From norlinengineering at comcast.net Sun Nov 1 09:41:00 2009 From: norlinengineering at comcast.net (Norlin Engineering) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:41:00 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Joe's Spit Bench - "Love Seat" - No Triumph Content In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <141B2B772F2949629E4430E89F7805FE@TOSHIBALAPTOP> This story brings back a favorite memory from the late 60's. My friends and I were having an afternoon kegger at a remote location on the Sandy River outside of Portland, OR. Three of the young ladies in attendance asked if I would drive them the few miles into the closest gas station so they wouldn't have to use the cover of the trees like the guys did. We all piled into my 1960 MGA for the short drive. While I was waiting in the car for the girls to come out of the restroom, a local man drove in and started talking with the gas station attendant. As the first of the three (all good looking brunettes) got into the car with me he glanced my way and sort of smiled. When the second one came out, he got a great big grin on his face. When the third one joined us, I would have needed a putty knife to scrape his jaw off the ground. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Group44TR7 at aol.com Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 6:27 AM To: spitlist at cox.net; dave at microworks.net; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Joe's Spit Bench - "Love Seat" Frequented an eating establishment back in Bayfield Wisconsin that was a daily breakfast hang out for local fisherman. Parked the car outside. As I walked inside, I heard the last of the conversation about my car "So what if its attracts women, it ain't got a back seat, so what good is it?" Obviously, he would not have made that remark if I had Joe's "love seat". Under the circumstances - with no love seat - I did the only thing possible. I returned the next morning at the same time with my date for the weekend knowing the same group of fisherman would be there. My date, who was a 5' 10" model, was very sporting about the whole situation. She could not have played the situation any better from her choice of clothes to her hanging on me as we walked to the door. As we entered the establishment, I looked directly at the man who made the remark, at which point the other fisherman at his table erupted with laughter. Cary Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From jimhearn1 at comcast.net Sun Nov 1 10:42:07 2009 From: jimhearn1 at comcast.net (jimhearn1 at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 17:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Broken or cracked diff mount Message-ID: <1465989874.3170381257097327375.JavaMail.root@sz0175a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Sorry, I meant to say on my vibration problem that the car is a 1974 TR6. From tr4racing at googlemail.com Mon Nov 2 03:52:02 2009 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:52:02 +0100 Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed In-Reply-To: <990103.26601.qm@web46107.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <990103.26601.qm@web46107.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001301ca5baa$846c52e0$8d44f8a0$@com> I moved on to a 16 row cooler. I don't know the hose size bit it is about 0.4" inside diameter. The cooler is mounted upright on the left hand side next to the radiator. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Mike Mehl Gesendet: Sonntag, 1. November 2009 03:06 An: Triumph Friends of Betreff: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed I got a lot of good ideas from the radiator questions from the forum. I also need some thoughts on an oil cooler. I have a very old oil cooler on the car that looks like I should not use. I am looking for advice on what oil cooler to run along with the fitting/hose size. Also where should I mount. it? Thanks. Mike Mehl Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From william.tobin3 at verizon.net Mon Nov 2 06:50:11 2009 From: william.tobin3 at verizon.net (WILLIAM TOBIN) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:50:11 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed References: <990103.26601.qm@web46107.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <007301ca5bc3$6670cfa0$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> Hi Mike, a couple thoughts on the oil cooler. If you look at coolers, they will usually have either BSP or AN fittings. My humble opinion is to buy a cooler with AN fittings; you can make your own lines, fittings/hose ends are readily available in many configurations, and colors for that matter. Do NOT use barb/clamp setups; they sometimes blow off. If you do get a cooler with BSP fittings, Pegasus sells BSP/AN adapters; I like AN stuff. I keep a line made up in case of a rock through the cooler or cold weather; I can bypas the cooler in a very few minutes. And cap off the cooler fittings. I use -10 lines to the cooler; they give lots of flow. You can also buy a fitting to put a temp gauge in the line if need be. Mount it so that you have good air flow through it but don't steal air from the radiator. I mounted mine in isolator mounts to decrease vibration; anybody's thoughts on that? Good or not? My $0.02 worth. Bill ---- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Mehl" To: "Triumph Friends of" Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:05 PM Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed > I got a lot of good ideas from the radiator questions from the forum. I also > need some thoughts on an oil cooler. I have a very old oil cooler on the > car that looks like I should not use. I am looking for advice on what oil > cooler to run along with the fitting/hose size. Also where should I mount. > it? > > Thanks. > Mike Mehl > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From fpspitfire at comcast.net Mon Nov 2 08:33:12 2009 From: fpspitfire at comcast.net (fpspitfire at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:33:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed In-Reply-To: <007301ca5bc3$6670cfa0$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> Message-ID: <255266731.3328111257175992467.JavaMail.root@sz0072a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I use a 16 row on the spitfire.B -10 AN fittings. I prefer the Setrab coolers over the Mocal...4 Mocals...all broke within a few races.B The Setrab one has been good for 5 years now. I don't isolation mount, I firm mount from one side only so that the cooler is in compression.B aaron ----- Original Message ----- From: "WILLIAM TOBIN" To: "Mike Mehl" , "Triumph Friends of" Sent: Monday, November 2, 2009 7:50:11 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed B B Hi Mike, a couple thoughts on the oil cooler. B B If you look at coolers, they will usually have either BSP or AN fittings. My humble opinion is to buy a cooler with AN fittings; you can make your own lines, fittings/hose ends are readily available in many configurations, and colors for that matter. Do NOT use barb/clamp setups; they sometimes blow off. If you do get a cooler with BSP fittings, Pegasus sells BSP/AN adapters; I like AN stuff. I keep a line made up in case of a rock through the cooler or cold weather; I can bypas the cooler in a very few minutes. And cap off the cooler fittings. B B I use -10 lines to the cooler; they give lots of flow. You can also buy a fitting to put a temp gauge in the line if need be. B B Mount it so that you have good air flow through it but don't steal air from the radiator. I mounted mine in isolator mounts to decrease vibration; anybody's thoughts on that? Good or not? B B My $0.02 worth. B B Bill ---- Original Message ----- B B From: "Mike Mehl" B B To: "Triumph Friends of" B B Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:05 PM B B Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed B B > I got a lot of good ideas from the radiator questions from the forum. B I also B B > need some thoughts on an oil cooler. B I have a very old oil cooler on the B B > car that looks like I should not use. I am looking for advice on what oil B B > cooler to run along with the fitting/hose size. B Also where should I mount. B B > it? B B > B B > Thanks. B B > Mike Mehl B B > _______________________________________________ B B > B B > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html B B > B B > http://www.fot-racing.com B B > B B > B B > Fot at autox.team.net B B > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot B B > B B > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From goodparts at verizon.net Mon Nov 2 08:38:32 2009 From: goodparts at verizon.net (Richard Good) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:38:32 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed In-Reply-To: <007301ca5bc3$6670cfa0$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> References: <990103.26601.qm@web46107.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <007301ca5bc3$6670cfa0$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> Message-ID: <6B888CC998814C69A055D354E93E12AA@AdminPC> Isolator mounts are a good idea, especially if mounted on the "radiator protection shield" on a TR6. This piece also mounts the sway bar which can cause some twisting that will crack the cooler. Been there. Richard Good ----- Original Message ----- From: "WILLIAM TOBIN" To: "Mike Mehl" ; "Triumph Friends of" Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed > Hi Mike, a couple thoughts on the oil cooler. > If you look at coolers, they will usually have either BSP or AN fittings. > My humble opinion is to buy a cooler with AN fittings; you can make your > own > lines, fittings/hose ends are readily available in many configurations, > and > colors for that matter. Do NOT use barb/clamp setups; they sometimes blow > off. If you do get a cooler with BSP fittings, Pegasus sells BSP/AN > adapters; I like AN stuff. I keep a line made up in case of a rock through > the cooler or cold weather; I can bypas the cooler in a very few minutes. > And cap off the cooler fittings. > I use -10 lines to the cooler; they give lots of flow. You can also buy a > fitting to put a temp gauge in the line if need be. > Mount it so that you have good air flow through it but don't steal air > from the radiator. I mounted mine in isolator mounts to decrease > vibration; > anybody's thoughts on that? Good or not? > My $0.02 worth. > Bill ---- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Mehl" > To: "Triumph Friends of" > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:05 PM > Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed > > > > I got a lot of good ideas from the radiator questions from the forum. > I > also > > need some thoughts on an oil cooler. I have a very old oil cooler on > the > > car that looks like I should not use. I am looking for advice on what > oil > > cooler to run along with the fitting/hose size. Also where should I > mount. > > it? > > > > Thanks. > > Mike Mehl > > _______________________________________________ From norlinengineering at comcast.net Mon Nov 2 09:35:17 2009 From: norlinengineering at comcast.net (Norlin Engineering) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:35:17 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed In-Reply-To: <990103.26601.qm@web46107.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Mike Do not use the old cooler, get a new one. If you loose a bearing, toss the cooler and get another new one. I use Mocal and have had no problems. Jim -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Mehl Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:06 PM To: Triumph Friends of Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed I got a lot of good ideas from the radiator questions from the forum. I also need some thoughts on an oil cooler. I have a very old oil cooler on the car that looks like I should not use. I am looking for advice on what oil cooler to run along with the fitting/hose size. Also where should I mount. it? Thanks. Mike Mehl Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From bownes at seiri.com Mon Nov 2 10:22:35 2009 From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:22:35 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed In-Reply-To: References: <990103.26601.qm@web46107.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Amen to that. Been there, learned the lesson. Worst part was there was a new cooler sitting on the shelf. I use the mocals on pretty much everything and put BSP to AN adaptors on them. They are cheap and efficient. Emergency repair tip: In a serious emergency, like it's 100 degrees out, an hour before the flag and you just found out the cooler on the car is cracked, if nothing else at all is available, you can use an automatic trans cooler. Flare the (normally slip on) hose ends, put some 1/2" hose on, double hose clamp it, and go racing *after* the oil has warmed up. Replace upon arrival home while admiring the new checkered flag you just got to hang in the garage. On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Norlin Engineering < norlinengineering at comcast.net> wrote: > Mike > > Do not use the old cooler, get a new one. If you loose a bearing, toss the > cooler and get another new one. I use Mocal and have had no problems. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Mike Mehl > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:06 PM > To: Triumph Friends of > Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed > > > I got a lot of good ideas from the radiator questions from the forum. I > also need some thoughts on an oil cooler. I have a very old oil cooler on > the car that looks like I should not use. I am looking for advice on what > oil cooler to run along with the fitting/hose size. Also where should I > mount. > it? > > Thanks. > Mike Mehl > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From Gt6steve at aol.com Mon Nov 2 15:11:32 2009 From: Gt6steve at aol.com (Gt6steve at aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:11:32 EST Subject: [Fot] TR box leak points Message-ID: Amici, This year I started using the Redline Shockproof gear oil in the TR trans and I have had a huge mess on my hands from the top of the box. I believe this leak has always been there but the oil would run off and go unnoticed while this weird green stuff CLINGS! I believe it is coming from the front of the shift box, maybe the three press-in plugs? Any advice or experience on leakproofing these boxes? I have a 3.8" hose breather on the tailshaft extension. Should I put something else in? It really is a mess! From mpendy at dishmail.net Mon Nov 2 20:30:20 2009 From: mpendy at dishmail.net (Mark Pendergrass) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:30:20 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed References: <255266731.3328111257175992467.JavaMail.root@sz0072a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1F085693AEC04DD1809A011B022A4762@Pendys> I second that; i have three Mocals on the shelf, all have leaks,the last one went one race . Switched to Setrab at the second race of the season, no issues at this time. Mark Pendy ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "WILLIAM TOBIN" Cc: "Triumph Friends of" Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed >I use a 16 row on the spitfire.B -10 AN fittings. > > > > I prefer the Setrab coolers over the Mocal...4 Mocals...all broke within a > few > races.B The Setrab one has been good for 5 years now. > > > > I don't isolation mount, I firm mount from one side only so that the > cooler is > in compression.B > > > > aaron > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "WILLIAM TOBIN" > To: "Mike Mehl" , "Triumph Friends of" > > Sent: Monday, November 2, 2009 7:50:11 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed > > B B Hi Mike, a couple thoughts on the oil cooler. > B B If you look at coolers, they will usually have either BSP or AN > fittings. > My humble opinion is to buy a cooler with AN fittings; you can make your > own > lines, fittings/hose ends are readily available in many configurations, > and > colors for that matter. Do NOT use barb/clamp setups; they sometimes blow > off. If you do get a cooler with BSP fittings, Pegasus sells BSP/AN > adapters; I like AN stuff. I keep a line made up in case of a rock through > the cooler or cold weather; I can bypas the cooler in a very few minutes. > And cap off the cooler fittings. > B B I use -10 lines to the cooler; they give lots of flow. You can also > buy a > fitting to put a temp gauge in the line if need be. > B B Mount it so that you have good air flow through it but don't steal air > from the radiator. I mounted mine in isolator mounts to decrease > vibration; > anybody's thoughts on that? Good or not? > B B My $0.02 worth. > B B Bill ---- Original Message ----- > B B From: "Mike Mehl" > B B To: "Triumph Friends of" > B B Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:05 PM > B B Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed > > > B B > I got a lot of good ideas from the radiator questions from the > forum. > B I > also > B B > need some thoughts on an oil cooler. B I have a very old oil cooler > on > the > B B > car that looks like I should not use. I am looking for advice on > what > oil > B B > cooler to run along with the fitting/hose size. B Also where should > I > mount. > B B > it? > B B > > B B > Thanks. > B B > Mike Mehl > B B > _______________________________________________ > B B > > B B > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > B B > > B B > http://www.fot-racing.com > B B > > B B > > B B > Fot at autox.team.net > B B > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > B B > > B B > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From gtlund at cyberspeedway.net Mon Nov 2 21:55:25 2009 From: gtlund at cyberspeedway.net (greg) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:55:25 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR box leak points In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AEFB7BD.2070904@cyberspeedway.net> Steve, The shift rail o rings probably need to be replaced. You will have to remove the gearbox top and remove the grub screws which retain the shift forks. Be careful as those screws are prone to breaking. I use a square head socket and extension to make sure I only put a turning moment on the screw. Since I started using this method about 15 years ago I haven't broken any screws. WHile your in there I would use a spring scale and set the detent adjustments per the factory. It really does make a nicer shifting box. Make sure to use only Viton orings. Buna N will not tolerate modern EP gear lube of any kind. This also goes for shaft seals. Most industrial bearing houses stock nitrile shaft seals and they will degrade quickly. If you use generic seals make sure to order Viton. This also accounts for some of the aftermarket seals leaking prematurely. Some old car parts suppliers know hobbyists expect leaks so they use whatever industrial seal is a close fit. Also, engine oil seals need to be Viton to tolerate the heat. Nitrile starts to harden (vulcanize further) at 180 degrees F. Greg Lund Gt6steve at aol.com wrote: > Amici, > > This year I started using the Redline Shockproof gear oil in the TR trans > and I have had a huge mess on my hands from the top of the box. I believe > this leak has always been there but the oil would run off and go unnoticed > while this weird green stuff CLINGS! > > I believe it is coming from the front of the shift box, maybe the three > press-in plugs? > > Any advice or experience on leakproofing these boxes? I have a 3.8" hose > breather on the tailshaft extension. Should I put something else in? > > It really is a mess! > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From jmwagner at greenheart.com Mon Nov 2 22:17:24 2009 From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:17:24 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Stainless Oil Catch Tank (Catch Can) with Breather Message-ID: <4AEFBCE4.5060904@greenheart.com> I just ran across this while surfing the net.... I'm just passing along the link because I think the oil catch can looks cool.... and the company seems to have some good products... (UK based) I've never done business with them. --Justin http://shop1.actinicexpress.co.uk/shops/Rat_Sport/index.php?cat=Oil_Catch_Tanks From jmwagner at greenheart.com Mon Nov 2 23:41:00 2009 From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:41:00 -0800 Subject: [Fot] triumph spitfire/parts & race car for sale Message-ID: <4AEFD07C.7060905@greenheart.com> Ran across this... --Justin http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/pts/1445415115.html From gkbyrne at optushome.com.au Tue Nov 3 03:40:35 2009 From: gkbyrne at optushome.com.au (Geoff Byrne) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:40:35 +1100 Subject: [Fot] TR box leak points In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0801545F738D41F099C3C8BD3446E70F@GEOFFPC> Amici i run redline and have had similar problems leaks at the top of the box come from either or both the shift rail seals and the reverse and OD switches . If you dont need the switches remove and plug up . If you need them replace the small o ring on the plunger by taking the switch apart or get a new one . Seal the switch body into the casing with Loctite thread sealant. The shift rail o rings are replace by dismantling the cover as described in the manual . put some heavy duty grease on them when you install . i have found the welsch plugs very seldom leak Having done these things no more leaks and great oil Geoff Byrne TR6 racer Down Under ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:11 AM Subject: [Fot] TR box leak points > Amici, > > This year I started using the Redline Shockproof gear oil in the TR trans > and I have had a huge mess on my hands from the top of the box. I believe > this leak has always been there but the oil would run off and go unnoticed > while this weird green stuff CLINGS! > > I believe it is coming from the front of the shift box, maybe the three > press-in plugs? > > Any advice or experience on leakproofing these boxes? I have a 3.8" hose > breather on the tailshaft extension. Should I put something else in? > > It really is a mess! > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From John.Reed at wilson.com Tue Nov 3 10:48:08 2009 From: John.Reed at wilson.com (John Reed) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:48:08 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Message-ID: FOT, I would like to nominate Jason Ostrowski to our fine group. Jason will be a second generation racer, his father and I raced together back when he was a little snot nosed kid. He's still snot nosed but bigger now. He will be racing a GT6 he just bought. Can I get a second? jason at multivintage.com Thanks, John Regards, John Reed Global Staff Photographer Creative Services Wilson Sporting Goods Co. 8750 W Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago, Illinois 60631, USA Tel. + 1.773.714.6895, fax +1.773.714.4585 John.Reed at wilson.com www.wilson.com www.amersports.com This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. From emanteno at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 11:43:13 2009 From: emanteno at gmail.com (Irv Korey) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:43:13 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <354a1780911031043p5bc303bdh1f1b127e865ec0aa@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:48 AM, John Reed wrote: > FOT, > > I would like to nominate Jason Ostrowski to our fine group. Jason will be a > second generation racer, his father and I raced together back when he was a > little snot nosed kid. He's still snot nosed but bigger now. He will be > racing a GT6 he just bought. > > Can I get a second? > Second. Welcome to Jason. From ehusmann53 at yahoo.com Tue Nov 3 11:50:44 2009 From: ehusmann53 at yahoo.com (Ernest Husmann) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:50:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <138343.17928.qm@web57608.mail.re1.yahoo.com> John: Anyone you hang with has got to have issues that would make them a good fit for our little group; second. Ernie --- On Tue, 11/3/09, John Reed wrote: From: John Reed Subject: [Fot] Nomination To: "'Friends of Triumph'" Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 11:48 AM FOT, I would like to nominate Jason Ostrowski to our fine group. Jason will be a second generation racer, his father and I raced together back when he was a little snot nosed kid. He's still snot nosed but bigger now. He will be racing a GT6 he just bought. Can I get a second? jason at multivintage.com Thanks, John Regards, John Reed Global Staff Photographer Creative Services Wilson Sporting Goods Co. 8750 W Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago, Illinois 60631, USA Tel. + 1.773.714.6895, fax +1.773.714.4585 John.Reed at wilson.com www.wilson.com www.amersports.com This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From jerrybarr at charter.net Tue Nov 3 11:55:13 2009 From: jerrybarr at charter.net (jerrybarr at charter.net) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:55:13 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Message-ID: <635642373-1257274508-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1999458743-@bda008.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Second!! ------Original Message------ From: John Reed Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net To: 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: [Fot] Nomination Sent: Nov 3, 2009 11:48 AM FOT, I would like to nominate Jason Ostrowski to our fine group. Jason will be a second generation racer, his father and I raced together back when he was a little snot nosed kid. He's still snot nosed but bigger now. He will be racing a GT6 he just bought. Can I get a second? jason at multivintage.com Thanks, John Regards, John Reed Global Staff Photographer Creative Services Wilson Sporting Goods Co. 8750 W Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago, Illinois 60631, USA Tel. + 1.773.714.6895, fax +1.773.714.4585 John.Reed at wilson.com www.wilson.com www.amersports.com This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Sent from my BlackBerry. wireless device from U.S. Cellular From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Tue Nov 3 12:03:57 2009 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:03:57 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C74BA4081@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com> Second! Will he be racing with Midwestern Council? Scott -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Reed Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 11:48 AM To: 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: [Fot] Nomination FOT, I would like to nominate Jason Ostrowski to our fine group. Jason will be a second generation racer, his father and I raced together back when he was a little snot nosed kid. He's still snot nosed but bigger now. He will be racing a GT6 he just bought. Can I get a second? jason at multivintage.com Thanks, John Regards, John Reed Global Staff Photographer Creative Services Wilson Sporting Goods Co. 8750 W Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago, Illinois 60631, USA Tel. + 1.773.714.6895, fax +1.773.714.4585 John.Reed at wilson.com www.wilson.com www.amersports.com This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From adams910 at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 17:46:31 2009 From: adams910 at gmail.com (Bob Adams) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:46:31 -0500 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com Message-ID: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> Here's a pretty interesting resource.. http://www.britishracecar.com/ It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar with and there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. Bob From dave at microworks.net Tue Nov 3 18:38:34 2009 From: dave at microworks.net (David W. Riddle) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:38:34 -0700 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.co m> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091104013927.E8493187671@autox.team.net> Are they MG bigots over there? Not a single TR?! At 05:46 PM 11/3/2009, Bob Adams wrote: >Here's a pretty interesting resource.. >http://www.britishracecar.com/ > >It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar with and >there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. > >Bob >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > >Fot at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From spitlist at cox.net Tue Nov 3 19:48:38 2009 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:48:38 -0700 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <20091104013927.E8493187671@autox.team.net> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> <20091104013927.E8493187671@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <653B0E2A122D435C967D713505CA25EE@joepentiumnew> Dave, I am sure that this site is just getting off the ground and they have gotten a number of entries from MG racers. It appears to be an offshoot of a long established site (British V8) which does have a number of Triumphs including Tiny Tim, My black Spit. So, the thing to do is start sending Triumph entries to them so we can overshadow all those lowly MG's Joe C. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David W. Riddle Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 6:39 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com Are they MG bigots over there? Not a single TR?! At 05:46 PM 11/3/2009, Bob Adams wrote: >Here's a pretty interesting resource.. >http://www.britishracecar.com/ > >It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar with and >there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. > >Bob >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > >Fot at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From s.janzen at comcast.net Wed Nov 4 08:33:02 2009 From: s.janzen at comcast.net (Scott Janzen) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:33:02 -0500 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing that they can compete in vintage anywhere. On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: Here's a pretty interesting resource.. http://www.britishracecar.com/ It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar with and there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. Bob Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From spitlist at cox.net Wed Nov 4 10:02:00 2009 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:02:00 -0700 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5471F5497DFE487BA1CCC843EC210A0E@joepentiumnew> If that is the case, maybe there Is hope for Tiny Tim in vintage racing! :) Joe C. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Scott Janzen Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:33 AM Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing that they can compete in vintage anywhere. On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: Here's a pretty interesting resource.. http://www.britishracecar.com/ It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar with and there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. Bob Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From billb at bnj.com Wed Nov 4 10:10:58 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:10:58 -0800 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> Message-ID: <9A2DC7A4-0F9F-4CF2-9398-8B509C81BF92@bnj.com> They're pretty fast, though Peyote can keep up with some of them if they're having a bad day and I'm having a good one. On Nov 4, 2009, at 7:33 AM, Scott Janzen wrote: > some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so > far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing > that they can compete in vintage anywhere. > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: > > Here's a pretty interesting resource.. > http://www.britishracecar.com/ > > It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar > with and > there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. > > Bob > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From andre at gt6.ca Wed Nov 4 10:40:13 2009 From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:40:13 -0500 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4362ae390911040940m4bac53b4rcea9f83b0afdbdc3@mail.gmail.com> Regardless. Very well prepared cars. I've been taking notes from a few of them as I work up my racer. A. 2009/11/4 Scott Janzen : > some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so > far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing > that they can compete in vintage anywhere. > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: > > Here's a pretty interesting resource.. > http://www.britishracecar.com/ > > It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar > with and > there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. > > Bob > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > -- Andre Rousseau - andre at gt6.ca '68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/ '77 FIAT 124 Vintage Racer #515 - http://www.124racer.com/ Ottawa, ON, Canada It is difficult to overcome one's passions, and impossible to satisfy them Marguerite de la Sabliere quote From tedtsimx at bright.net Wed Nov 4 12:07:14 2009 From: tedtsimx at bright.net (Ted Schumacher) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:07:14 -0500 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <5471F5497DFE487BA1CCC843EC210A0E@joepentiumnew> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> <5471F5497DFE487BA1CCC843EC210A0E@joepentiumnew> Message-ID: <4AF1D0E2.80008@bright.net> Joe, since the main references seem to be to SVRA, remember it's a for profit group Or, if you can write the check, we will have a class. Ted Joe Curry wrote: > If that is the case, maybe there Is hope for Tiny Tim in vintage racing! :) > > Joe C. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Scott Janzen > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:33 AM > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com > > some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so > far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing > that they can compete in vintage anywhere. > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: > > Here's a pretty interesting resource.. > http://www.britishracecar.com/ > > It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar > with and > there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. > > Bob > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: 270.14.49/2480 - Release Date: 11/04/09 07:37:00 > > -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx at bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 From spitlist at cox.net Wed Nov 4 13:12:44 2009 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:12:44 -0700 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <4AF1D0E2.80008@bright.net> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> <5471F5497DFE487BA1CCC843EC210A0E@joepentiumnew> <4AF1D0E2.80008@bright.net> Message-ID: I am afraid that at this time, it would be far too expensive for me to return the car to race trim and to go to any of those races. So I guess I will have to be satisfied having Tiny Tim as a street rod! :-) Joe _____ From: Ted Schumacher [mailto:tedtsimx at bright.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:07 PM To: Joe Curry Cc: 'Scott Janzen'; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com Joe, since the main references seem to be to SVRA, remember it's a for profit group Or, if you can write the check, we will have a class. Ted Joe Curry wrote: If that is the case, maybe there Is hope for Tiny Tim in vintage racing! :) Joe C. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Scott Janzen Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:33 AM Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing that they can compete in vintage anywhere. On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: Here's a pretty interesting resource.. http://www.britishracecar.com/ It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar with and there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. Bob Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: 270.14.49/2480 - Release Date: 11/04/09 07:37:00 -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx at bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 From trbilbo at aol.com Wed Nov 4 17:28:00 2009 From: trbilbo at aol.com (trbilbo at aol.com) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:28:00 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Deiter's TR4 at Nurburging flat out! Wild! In-Reply-To: <20091027131853.56AC918764B@autox.team.net> References: <20091027131853.56AC918764B@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <8CC2BC5F6EFD383-3670-6CFF@webmail-d044.sysops.aol.com> Godo stuff Tony! This is a link to one of my favs .... made me pucker more than a bit.... I have parts in Deiter's car so this was his 5 minute send off! GREAT in-car laps of a tasty-FAST TR4 at NurBurGring FLAT out. The squealing drifts are wonderful! (and note the leather helmet and goggles!) enjoy! (Paste it if it doesn't click) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kystdfr1V6k&NR=1 Billy B. E Ticket Triumphs -----Original Message----- From: Tony Drews To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 6:18 am Subject: [Fot] Edited Hallett Video on You Tube I edited the race footage down to the 10 minute You Tube limit and put it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5uJLTLrXOk&feature=youtube_gdata Used Windows Live Movie Maker to edit and post it, I think the quality came out very nice. Cheers, Tony Drews Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From colordog.1 at earthlink.net Wed Nov 4 18:46:31 2009 From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (steve) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:46:31 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [Fot] Deiter's TR4 at Nurburging flat out! Wild! Message-ID: <28914686.1257385591482.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> 3 minutes 18 seconds into the video, YIKES! ~Steve -----Original Message----- >From: trbilbo at aol.com >Sent: Nov 4, 2009 4:28 PM >To: tony at tonydrews.com, fot at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Fot] Deiter's TR4 at Nurburging flat out! Wild! > >Godo stuff Tony! > >This is a link to one of my favs .... made me pucker more than a bit.... > >I have parts in Deiter's car so this was his 5 minute send off! > >GREAT in-car laps of a tasty-FAST TR4 at NurBurGring FLAT out. > >The squealing drifts are wonderful! (and note the leather helmet and >goggles!) > >enjoy! (Paste it if it doesn't click) > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kystdfr1V6k&NR=1 > >Billy B. >E Ticket Triumphs > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Tony Drews >To: fot at autox.team.net >Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 6:18 am >Subject: [Fot] Edited Hallett Video on You Tube > > >I edited the race footage down to the 10 minute You Tube limit and put it >here: >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5uJLTLrXOk&feature=youtube_gdata > >Used Windows Live Movie Maker to edit and post it, I think the quality came >out very nice. > >Cheers, Tony Drews >Fot at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > >Fot at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From mpendy at dishmail.net Wed Nov 4 20:10:10 2009 From: mpendy at dishmail.net (Mark Pendergrass) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:10:10 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Deiter's TR4 at Nurburging flat out! Wild! References: <20091027131853.56AC918764B@autox.team.net> <8CC2BC5F6EFD383-3670-6CFF@webmail-d044.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <81C4EE9723DC4AB6B962A518B802E65E@Pendys> Think he's not pulling some serious "G" forces? look at the keys and key fob when he's in the curves. Mark Pendy ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Deiter's TR4 at Nurburging flat out! Wild! > Godo stuff Tony! > > This is a link to one of my favs .... made me pucker more than a bit.... > > I have parts in Deiter's car so this was his 5 minute send off! > > GREAT in-car laps of a tasty-FAST TR4 at NurBurGring FLAT out. > > The squealing drifts are wonderful! (and note the leather helmet and > goggles!) > > enjoy! (Paste it if it doesn't click) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kystdfr1V6k&NR=1 > > Billy B. > E Ticket Triumphs > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Drews > To: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 6:18 am > Subject: [Fot] Edited Hallett Video on You Tube > > > I edited the race footage down to the 10 minute You Tube limit and put it > here: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5uJLTLrXOk&feature=youtube_gdata > > Used Windows Live Movie Maker to edit and post it, I think the quality > came > out very nice. > > Cheers, Tony Drews > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From billb at bnj.com Wed Nov 4 20:48:56 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:48:56 -0800 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <5471F5497DFE487BA1CCC843EC210A0E@joepentiumnew> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> <5471F5497DFE487BA1CCC843EC210A0E@joepentiumnew> Message-ID: <2B4FC054-39B9-44E5-A237-B42DD0D2B8AD@bnj.com> SVRA You don't have to do anything to the car. Just pay the entry fee. On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Joe Curry wrote: > If that is the case, maybe there Is hope for Tiny Tim in vintage > racing! :) > > Joe C. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Scott Janzen > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:33 AM > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com > > some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so > far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing > that they can compete in vintage anywhere. > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: > > Here's a pretty interesting resource.. > http://www.britishracecar.com/ > > It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar > with and > there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. > > Bob > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From spitlist at cox.net Wed Nov 4 20:58:23 2009 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:58:23 -0700 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <2B4FC054-39B9-44E5-A237-B42DD0D2B8AD@bnj.com> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> <5471F5497DFE487BA1CCC843EC210A0E@joepentiumnew> <2B4FC054-39B9-44E5-A237-B42DD0D2B8AD@bnj.com> Message-ID: I am sure that there sre some mandatory safety things that are required, right? Since I retired the car from serious autocross action, it has been returned to street legal trim. The once SCCA legal rollbar has been cut down to fit under the hardtop and a Plastic 16 gallon fuel cell has been installed. I doubt that will pass muster. Joe C. -----Original Message----- From: Bill Babcock [mailto:billb at bnj.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:49 PM To: Joe Curry Cc: 'Scott Janzen'; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com SVRA You don't have to do anything to the car. Just pay the entry fee. On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Joe Curry wrote: > If that is the case, maybe there Is hope for Tiny Tim in vintage > racing! :) > > Joe C. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Scott Janzen > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:33 AM > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com > > some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so > far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing > that they can compete in vintage anywhere. > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: > > Here's a pretty interesting resource.. > http://www.britishracecar.com/ > > It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar > with and > there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. > > Bob > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From adams910 at gmail.com Wed Nov 4 22:00:55 2009 From: adams910 at gmail.com (Bob Adams) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:00:55 -0500 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <2B4FC054-39B9-44E5-A237-B42DD0D2B8AD@bnj.com> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> <5471F5497DFE487BA1CCC843EC210A0E@joepentiumnew> <2B4FC054-39B9-44E5-A237-B42DD0D2B8AD@bnj.com> Message-ID: <673993c50911042100r36d5665aw2a08ac6c23d96b57@mail.gmail.com> Disagree Bill. They tech cars and have disqualified people for illegal modifications (happened this past Sept. to an MGB). SVRA weighs the top cars from time to time as well. Bob From fasttrs at mindspring.com Thu Nov 5 06:04:16 2009 From: fasttrs at mindspring.com (Mike Munson) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 07:04:16 -0600 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <2B4FC054-39B9-44E5-A237-B42DD0D2B8AD@bnj.com> Message-ID: Just don't pass any Porsche. They frown on that if you are in a lowly Triumph. Mike -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Babcock Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:49 PM To: Joe Curry Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com SVRA You don't have to do anything to the car. Just pay the entry fee. On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Joe Curry wrote: > If that is the case, maybe there Is hope for Tiny Tim in vintage > racing! :) > > Joe C. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Scott Janzen > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:33 AM > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com > > some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so > far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing > that they can compete in vintage anywhere. > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: > > Here's a pretty interesting resource.. > http://www.britishracecar.com/ > > It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar > with and > there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. > > Bob > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: 270.14.50/2481 - Release Date: 11/04/09 19:51:00 From John.Reed at wilson.com Thu Nov 5 06:52:42 2009 From: John.Reed at wilson.com (John Reed) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:52:42 -0600 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <2B4FC054-39B9-44E5-A237-B42DD0D2B8AD@bnj.com> Message-ID: Bill, Maybe your thinking of HSR. SVRA not only weighs cars, they have weight penalties for things like no fan, generator.... John On 11/4/09 9:48 PM, "Bill Babcock" wrote: > SVRA > > You don't have to do anything to the car. Just pay the entry fee. > On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Joe Curry wrote: > >> If that is the case, maybe there Is hope for Tiny Tim in vintage >> racing! :) >> >> Joe C. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] >> On >> Behalf Of Scott Janzen >> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:33 AM >> Cc: fot at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com >> >> some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so >> far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing >> that they can compete in vintage anywhere. >> >> On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: >> >> Here's a pretty interesting resource.. >> http://www.britishracecar.com/ >> >> It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar >> with and >> there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. >> >> Bob >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Regards, John Reed Global Staff Photographer Creative Services Wilson Sporting Goods Co. 8750 W Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago, Illinois 60631, USA Tel. + 1.773.714.6895, fax +1.773.714.4585 John.Reed at wilson.com www.wilson.com www.amersports.com This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. From jsnook at wcnet.org Thu Nov 5 07:07:21 2009 From: jsnook at wcnet.org (Jeff Snook) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:07:21 -0500 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004b01ca5e21$4b268db0$e173a910$@org> Curtis, the guy who is putting this site together approached me at Watkins Glen this past September. I had not heard of it before then. He took a zillion photos of my Lotus and spent a lot of time asking questions. Plus we have had subsequent email Q/A sessions. He really does a lot of research on each car and spends a lot of time on all the little details. Pretty amazing he is doing this pretty much on his own dime!! My TR3 will be featured soon, so we will off-set some of the MG bias on his site!! Jeff Snook http://www.snooksdreamcars.com From billb at bnj.com Thu Nov 5 08:12:00 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 07:12:00 -0800 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You're right, I am. On Nov 5, 2009, at 5:52 AM, John Reed wrote: > Bill, > Maybe your thinking of HSR. > SVRA not only weighs cars, they have weight penalties for things > like no > fan, generator.... > > > John > > > On 11/4/09 9:48 PM, "Bill Babcock" wrote: > >> SVRA >> >> You don't have to do anything to the car. Just pay the entry fee. >> On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Joe Curry wrote: >> >>> If that is the case, maybe there Is hope for Tiny Tim in vintage >>> racing! :) >>> >>> Joe C. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Scott Janzen >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:33 AM >>> Cc: fot at autox.team.net >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com >>> >>> some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, >>> so >>> far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing >>> that they can compete in vintage anywhere. >>> >>> On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: >>> >>> Here's a pretty interesting resource.. >>> http://www.britishracecar.com/ >>> >>> It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar >>> with and >>> there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. >>> >>> Bob >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>> >>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>> >>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>> >>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > Regards, > John Reed > Global Staff Photographer > Creative Services > > Wilson Sporting Goods Co. > 8750 W Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago, Illinois 60631, USA > Tel. + 1.773.714.6895, fax +1.773.714.4585 > > John.Reed at wilson.com www.wilson.com www.amersports.com > > > > > This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. > If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail > in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e- > mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the > material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. From budscars at comcast.net Thu Nov 5 15:40:44 2009 From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:40:44 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR3 TRANNY COVER WANTED Message-ID: Hi Gang..TRANNY COVER NEEDED FOR 56 TR3...email John Slack in sonoma, ca at johneslack at att.com Racer Bud From tr4racing at googlemail.com Thu Nov 5 15:50:46 2009 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 23:50:46 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Deiter's TR4 at Nurburging flat out! Wild! In-Reply-To: <8CC2BC5F6EFD383-3670-6CFF@webmail-d044.sysops.aol.com> References: <20091027131853.56AC918764B@autox.team.net> <8CC2BC5F6EFD383-3670-6CFF@webmail-d044.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <001701ca5e6a$6cd0fba0$4672f2e0$@com> Funny that this old clip is still one of the most seen. Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von trbilbo at aol.com Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. November 2009 01:28 An: tony at tonydrews.com; fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Deiter's TR4 at Nurburging flat out! Wild! ........ GREAT in-car laps of a tasty-FAST TR4 at NurBurGring FLAT out. The squealing drifts are wonderful! (and note the leather helmet and goggles!) enjoy! (Paste it if it doesn't click) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kystdfr1V6k&NR=1 Billy B. E Ticket Triumphs -----Original Message----- From: Tony Drews To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 6:18 am Subject: [Fot] Edited Hallett Video on You Tube I edited the race footage down to the 10 minute You Tube limit and put it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5uJLTLrXOk&feature=youtube_gdata Used Windows Live Movie Maker to edit and post it, I think the quality came out very nice. Cheers, Tony Drews Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From norlinengineering at comcast.net Sun Nov 8 10:42:40 2009 From: norlinengineering at comcast.net (Norlin Engineering) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 09:42:40 -0800 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: What's really fun is passing Porsche's on the outside - Geez I sure love how the Spitfire handles! :) -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Munson Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 5:04 AM To: 'Bill Babcock'; 'Joe Curry' Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com Just don't pass any Porsche. They frown on that if you are in a lowly Triumph. Mike -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Babcock Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:49 PM To: Joe Curry Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com SVRA You don't have to do anything to the car. Just pay the entry fee. On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Joe Curry wrote: > If that is the case, maybe there Is hope for Tiny Tim in vintage > racing! :) > > Joe C. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Scott Janzen > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:33 AM > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com > > some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so > far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing > that they can compete in vintage anywhere. > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: > > Here's a pretty interesting resource.. http://www.britishracecar.com/ > > It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar > with and there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. > > Bob > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: 270.14.50/2481 - Release Date: 11/04/09 19:51:00 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From gaf3 at charter.net Tue Nov 10 05:17:46 2009 From: gaf3 at charter.net (Glenn Franco) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:17:46 -0500 Subject: [Fot] DOOR HARDWARE NEEDED FOR 74 TR6 Message-ID: <4AF959EA.80402@charter.net> Group Does anyone out there have a remote control release rod for the left door of a TR6 1973 or later? This is the rod and mechanism the runs from the door latch to the inside door release handle. It has an upward bend to clear the door pull in the center of the door. I need to buy one of these to wrap up my restoration on my 74 autocrosser or fast road car. The big three in the US and Rimmer have no stock. Thanks in advance Glenn Franco 71 and 74 TR6 and spit racer From gaf3 at charter.net Tue Nov 10 07:54:30 2009 From: gaf3 at charter.net (Glenn Franco) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:54:30 -0500 Subject: [Fot] DOOR HARDWARE NEEDED FOR 74 TR6 In-Reply-To: <4AF959EA.80402@charter.net> References: <4AF959EA.80402@charter.net> Message-ID: <4AF97EA6.8070007@charter.net> Sorry to bomb the list but, Scott Harper, Team Triumph, had one and it's on its way. Thanks that was fast. Glenn Glenn Franco wrote: > Group > Does anyone out there have a remote control release rod for the left > door of a TR6 1973 or later? > This is the rod and mechanism the runs from the door latch to the > inside door release handle. > It has an upward bend to clear the door pull in the center of the door. > > I need to buy one of these to wrap up my restoration on my 74 > autocrosser or fast road car. > The big three in the US and Rimmer have no stock. > > Thanks in advance > Glenn Franco > 71 and 74 TR6 and spit racer > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gaf3 at charter.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as gaf3 at charter.net From horizonracing at msn.com Tue Nov 10 15:16:45 2009 From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:16:45 -0800 Subject: [Fot] wiper arm ID Message-ID: FOT'ers, I trying to ID a wiper arm of a Ferrari 275 GTB. YES, believe it! they used Lucas parts on these things. Must be pay back ! :) O/All length is at 13 1/4 width @ pivot pin is 3/4 The outside Diameter of the piece that goes over the "wheel" is also approx. 3/4 These arms might be off a TR 6 ? or 250 Thank you to all Tony Garmey From vintage.racer at comcast.net Tue Nov 10 18:43:34 2009 From: vintage.racer at comcast.net (Gary Horstkorta) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:43:34 -0800 Subject: [Fot] New Vintage Race Organization Message-ID: <001a01ca6270$63eebd10$2bcc3730$@racer@comcast.net> I heard rumors of a new group with Bobby Rahal involved at this year's Monterey Historics. The rumors were accurate, check out http://www.hmpseries.com/aboutUs.cfm. Gary From adams910 at gmail.com Tue Nov 10 20:53:03 2009 From: adams910 at gmail.com (Bob Adams) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:53:03 -0500 Subject: [Fot] New Vintage Race Organization In-Reply-To: <5087355178326783589@unknownmsgid> References: <5087355178326783589@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <673993c50911101953q616a1863vb0da3dcbfd53bd80@mail.gmail.com> They also took the HSR date for Watkins Glen in June. Bob Adams On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Gary Horstkorta wrote: > I heard rumors of a new group with Bobby Rahal involved at this year's > Monterey Historics. The rumors were accurate, check out > http://www.hmpseries.com/aboutUs.cfm. > > > > Gary > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as adams910 at gmail.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as adams910 at gmail.com From ablake2 at austin.rr.com Tue Nov 10 23:15:52 2009 From: ablake2 at austin.rr.com (Greg & Alison Blake) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:15:52 -0600 Subject: [Fot] TWS this weekend Message-ID: <000701ca6296$6bd6dbe0$6401a8c0@blake1> Just checking to see who will be at TWS this weekend. Greg From tarch at bellsouth.net Wed Nov 11 08:12:27 2009 From: tarch at bellsouth.net (Richard Taylor) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:12:27 -0500 Subject: [Fot] For the Military In-Reply-To: <20091031041851.AB1CA187647@autox.team.net> References: <20091031041851.AB1CA187647@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <65576D8A5E0344F5BFEC7ABFEFBC6E22@richardiipc> David, An old soldier's lament..... I was discharged a half a century ago as a Korean War vet. Most of my 3 year duty, however, was Cold War stuff in Germany; practicing killing, not actually doing it. As a teenager I took Basic with the 101st Airborne and jump school with the 82nd. I too was Infantry. In those days this is where the Army put you if you couldn't pass any of their qualifying tests for high skilled schools. You know, schools like clerk-typist or cook or vehicle maintenance. The mid-fifties was the era of the old "brown gowns" (Ike Jackets) and M-1 Garands. Yes, I still have one each left in my closet. Highest rank held (briefly), Sgt; discharged Cpl.; evidence of a disquieting trend. The paratrooper songs in those days were "Beautiful streamer, open for me..." "There was blood upon the risers, there was brains upon his chute...." and "Gorey, gorey, what a helluva way to die..." These were sung more as ballads as opposed to the martial cadence of your attached version. However the Military Utube rendition still rings true to the soldier's need for invincibility. I salute that from the bottom of my heart. Now let me share a really random thought with the list. Years ago, when we hooked up to the static line in a thunderously loud C-119, Flying Boxcar, at 1200 msl slow flight, there was always the feeling of uncertainty, anxiety and apprehension. That in-your-gut feeling is the same one we feel on the starting grid at the track; very little difference. So maybe FOT needs a blood and guts race song. Back to the Utube video, I was disappointed that, presumably for political correctness, the George C. Scott clip of Patton's speech was censored for cultural epithets. Wussies!! And thank your brother from all of us for serving his Country. Richard Taylor Subject: [Fot] For the Military My Brother will be graduating from Army Basic this week and then he is off to Advanced Infantry School. For those on the list(s) that have a Military background I saw this song referenced on the Blackfive milblog today. iTunes proceeds go to a Military charity. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTs6a0ORdQU _______________________________________________ From dave at microworks.net Wed Nov 11 08:41:25 2009 From: dave at microworks.net (David W. Riddle) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:41:25 -0700 Subject: [Fot] For the Military In-Reply-To: <65576D8A5E0344F5BFEC7ABFEFBC6E22@richardiipc> References: <20091031041851.AB1CA187647@autox.team.net> <65576D8A5E0344F5BFEC7ABFEFBC6E22@richardiipc> Message-ID: <20091111154219.6653F187645@autox.team.net> Mike is home this week on leave before heading to Texas (Ft. Bliss) after getting his orders changed. He was slated to head to Korea but that would have put off deployment to Iraq/Afghanistan by at least a year. Mike wants to get in the action. His goal is SF. My Dad is a retired (1981) Army aviator. He flew Birddogs in Nam. My Step Brother Will is a firefighter in the Air Guard, My Cousin Scott is Army Intelligence (he had been an Army Integrator in Iraq and was wounded by an IED. Uncle Larry (Scott's Dad) is retired Air Force, Uncle Phil is retired Navy. I worked covert for the CIA in Korea back in the 80's and had been an Air Force Cadet and went on exchange with the Israeli Air Force back in 1981. Long Family history of Military Service. Grandpa was on Palmrya Island the morning of 12/7 while my Grandma was back at Pearl eight months pregnant with my Dad. Uncle Phil was 3 years old and got shot in the leg that morning as he stood in his crib when a bullet came through the roof of their House and passed over Grandma's shoulder as she was getting him dressed. Her sister's Husband, Uncle Mike, for whom my Brother Mike is named) was in the Oklahoma down on Battleship Row when she capsized. HE and Grandpa both survived WWII. The letter that Grandma wrote to my Great-grandma back in San Pedro, California the week after the attack is a beauty of understatement. http://www.riddlefamily.org/ghr1.htm At 08:12 AM 11/11/2009, Richard Taylor wrote: >David, > >An old soldier's lament..... > >I was discharged a half a century ago as a Korean War vet. Most of my 3 year >duty, however, was Cold War stuff in Germany; practicing killing, not >actually doing it. As a teenager I took Basic with the 101st Airborne and >jump school with the 82nd. I too was Infantry. In those days this is where >the Army put you if you couldn't pass any of their qualifying tests for high >skilled schools. You know, schools like clerk-typist or cook or vehicle >maintenance. > >The mid-fifties was the era of the old "brown gowns" (Ike Jackets) and M-1 >Garands. Yes, I still have one each left in my closet. Highest rank held >(briefly), Sgt; discharged Cpl.; evidence of a disquieting trend. > >The paratrooper songs in those days were "Beautiful streamer, open for >me..." "There was blood upon the risers, there was brains upon his >chute...." and "Gorey, gorey, what a helluva way to die..." These were sung >more as ballads as opposed to the martial cadence of your attached version. > >However the Military Utube rendition still rings true to the soldier's need >for invincibility. I salute that from the bottom of my heart. > >Now let me share a really random thought with the list. Years ago, when we >hooked up to the static line in a thunderously loud C-119, Flying Boxcar, at >1200 msl slow flight, there was always the feeling of uncertainty, anxiety >and apprehension. That in-your-gut feeling is the same one we feel on the >starting grid at the track; very little difference. So maybe FOT needs a >blood and guts race song. > >Back to the Utube video, I was disappointed that, presumably for political >correctness, the George C. Scott clip of Patton's speech was censored for >cultural epithets. Wussies!! > >And thank your brother from all of us for serving his Country. > >Richard Taylor > > >Subject: [Fot] For the Military > >My Brother will be graduating from Army Basic this week and then he >is off to Advanced Infantry School. For those on the list(s) that >have a Military background I saw this song referenced on the >Blackfive milblog today. iTunes proceeds go to a Military charity. > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTs6a0ORdQU >_______________________________________________ From charly at mitchelplumbing.com Wed Nov 11 15:25:52 2009 From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:25:52 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Car Hauling from texas Message-ID: <84A370F136A042A4BED46367431E5051@Charly> Amici, I've got a client looking at a TR4 located in Texas that we're trying to arrange hauling to Seattle Washington area. Is anybody traveling this direction with an empty trailer? There will be a bunch of spare parts going along with it as well. Thanks, Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 From charly at mitchelplumbing.com Wed Nov 11 15:48:01 2009 From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:48:01 -0800 Subject: [Fot] wiper arm ID References: Message-ID: <99B54A8F78654368A012D95F45724D76@Charly> Hey Tony, TR250 & TR4A are the same and TR6 uses about 3 different kind. Some are black on later cars and some are LHD or RHD. The TR6 is a little shorter than the 13.25 inches at about 12 inches. One side of the TR6 is also bent to be parallel to the lower windshield frame about 45 0. The other side is slightly bent but only a couple of degrees. I have a bunch of arms laying around and I can look through them. Is this arm straight or is it crooked as if in a LHD or RHD mount? Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony and Annie Garmey" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:16 PM Subject: [Fot] wiper arm ID > FOT'ers, > > I trying to ID a wiper arm of a Ferrari 275 GTB. YES, believe it! they > used > Lucas parts on these things. Must be pay back ! :) > > > > O/All length is at 13 1/4 > > width @ pivot pin is 3/4 > > The outside Diameter of the piece that goes over the "wheel" is also > approx. > 3/4 > > > > These arms might be off a TR 6 ? or 250 > > > > Thank you to all > > > > Tony Garmey > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as charly at mitchelplumbing.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as charly at mitchelplumbing.com From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net Wed Nov 11 20:01:36 2009 From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:01:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] TWS this weekend In-Reply-To: <000701ca6296$6bd6dbe0$6401a8c0@blake1> Message-ID: <160113.21733.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Joshua and I will be there taking in the vintage Indy car racing, though I'm not bringing the '39 champ car. I don't feel like hauling it 3 hours down and back just to show it off. -Ed- --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Greg & Alison Blake wrote: From: Greg & Alison Blake Subject: [Fot] TWS this weekend To: fot at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 12:15 AM Just checking to see who will be at TWS this weekend. Greg You are subscribed as edwardbarnard at prodigy.net http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as edwardbarnard at prodigy.net From markvaden at gmail.com Fri Nov 13 17:03:39 2009 From: markvaden at gmail.com (Mark Vaden) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:03:39 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Videos and pictures Message-ID: <285b8a860911131603r79b405d1m7453cd9e364d677f@mail.gmail.com> Hi Everyone, I finally updated our racing web page, and added some more videos, as well as photos. Check it out: http://www.britishheritagemotorsports.com/TriHard_Racing.html. There are links across the top of the page for photos and videos. -Mark From markvaden at gmail.com Sat Nov 14 10:13:12 2009 From: markvaden at gmail.com (Mark Vaden) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:13:12 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: [TR] Videos and pictures In-Reply-To: <1959608342.236425.1258160238648.JavaMail.root@vms244.mailsrvcs.net> References: <1959608342.236425.1258160238648.JavaMail.root@vms244.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <285b8a860911140913g1d910570q27ad42200f594108@mail.gmail.com> Oops added a period to the end of the line. Here is the link without the period: http://www.britishheritagemotorsports.com/TriHard_Racing.html ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Date: Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [TR] Videos and pictures To: markvaden at gmail.com Might want to take the period off the end, it returns a 404 error with it on. On Nov 13, 2009, Mark Vaden wrote: Hi Everyone, I finally updated our racing web page, and added some more videos, as well as photos. Check it out: http://www.britishheritagemotorsports.com/TriHard_Racing.html. There are links across the top of the page for photos and videos. -Mark This list supported in part by the Vintage Triumph Register http://www.vtr.org Triumphs at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive From bownes at seiri.com Sat Nov 14 18:52:48 2009 From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:52:48 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Not quite TR related Message-ID: Well, maybe distantly... The garage where I built my first Spitfire race car is going to go under the wrecking ball/foreclosure after the owner recently passed on. It has a large inventory of NOS VW parts in the back. His family has asked myself and a few of the other 'old guard' to see what we can salvage from the facility to help them out. What I really need is the VW equivalent of Ted Shumacher. Anyone know someone who might be interested in picking up a garage load of NOS spares and other parts? Most of the spares are engine bits, but we stumbled on 5 boxes of very early Bus/Beetle glass headlight covers still in the original wrapping paper and a few boxes of bearings old enough to be labeled 'Auto-Union'. Alas, my TR250 engine is buried behind the rearmost Transporter and is gonna have to be just about the last thing out of the building. So it goes. Thanks, Bob From rikrock at aol.com Sun Nov 15 05:12:22 2009 From: rikrock at aol.com (rikrock at aol.com) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:12:22 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 3.45 : 1 Ring and Pinion For Sale Message-ID: <8CC34040572364D-7038-22D1@webmail-d027.sysops.aol.com> Fits the big TR (TR3-6). In good used condition, from one of my TVR's. $150 or trade for 4.1 gears? Rich Rock Pottstown, Pa From malaboge at aol.com Sun Nov 15 15:36:09 2009 From: malaboge at aol.com (malaboge at aol.com) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:36:09 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Brake Adapters Message-ID: <8CC345B293D06F0-5090-9A60@webmail-d085.sysops.aol.com> Fellow shop rats- Ok you caught me...i'm workin on a non-TR...but at least it has a bunch-o-TR stuff on it. When it wouldn't move anymore cause the brakes were rusted tight, a helpful soul removed the calipers so that it could roll. He dutifully threw the calipers in the trunk, but evidently in his zeal, he removed the brake caliper adapters as well. No prob except they didn't end up in the trunk, and now as I attempt a reconstruction of this little beauty, I do not have the adapters. I fished several out of the pile-o-parts in the shop, but none are right. It would appear that they are GT6 style adapters...they are "round" where they bolt to the upright (the GT6 size upright) and take the larger 16P caliper (like a tr4). Anyone have a set they would care to sell to the cause? And yes, those are the breaks.... Nick in Nor Cal From horizonracing at msn.com Sun Nov 15 18:03:19 2009 From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:03:19 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Brake Adapters In-Reply-To: <8CC345B293D06F0-5090-9A60@webmail-d085.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC345B293D06F0-5090-9A60@webmail-d085.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Nick, What car do you Have?? but to help you with Brake caliper mounts, What uprights do you have? I just had a few Alloy Caliper mounts cast for the TR4 and Dave Bean Eng. has alloy mounts for the spitfire to Girling AR or TR 4 calipers. Good Luck Tony > To: fot at autox.team.net; vintage-race at autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:36:09 -0500 > From: malaboge at aol.com > Subject: [Fot] Brake Adapters > > Fellow shop rats- > > > Ok you caught me...i'm workin on a non-TR...but at least it has a bunch-o-TR > stuff on it. When it wouldn't move anymore cause the brakes were rusted > tight, a helpful soul removed the calipers so that it could roll. He > dutifully threw the calipers in the trunk, but evidently in his zeal, he > removed the brake caliper adapters as well. No prob except they didn't end up > in the trunk, and now as I attempt a reconstruction of this little beauty, I > do not have the adapters. I fished several out of the pile-o-parts in the > shop, but none are right. It would appear that they are GT6 style > adapters...they are "round" where they bolt to the upright (the GT6 size > upright) and take the larger 16P caliper (like a tr4). > > > Anyone have a set they would care to sell to the cause? > > > And yes, those are the breaks.... > Nick in Nor Cal > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as horizonracing at msn.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as horizonracing at msn.com From tr4racing at googlemail.com Mon Nov 16 00:35:03 2009 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:35:03 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife In-Reply-To: <160113.21733.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <000701ca6296$6bd6dbe0$6401a8c0@blake1> <160113.21733.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001901ca668f$524e2550$f6ea6ff0$@com> This is what I try to achieve but probably never can reach. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBsBHEKOQKc Cheers Chris From tony at tonydrews.com Mon Nov 16 08:00:07 2009 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:00:07 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife In-Reply-To: <001901ca668f$524e2550$f6ea6ff0$@com> References: <000701ca6296$6bd6dbe0$6401a8c0@blake1> <160113.21733.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001901ca668f$524e2550$f6ea6ff0$@com> Message-ID: <20091116150034.3210C187643@autox.team.net> Wow! That was thrilling! What a way to get the blood pumping in the morning! I love Hans' commentary - he sounds so excited. "Oversteer! Oversteer!" Thanks for sharing. - Tony Drews At 01:35 AM 11/16/2009, MadMarx wrote: >This is what I try to achieve but probably never can reach. > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBsBHEKOQKc > > >Cheers >Chris From billb at bnj.com Mon Nov 16 09:04:24 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:04:24 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife In-Reply-To: <20091116150034.3210C187643@autox.team.net> References: <000701ca6296$6bd6dbe0$6401a8c0@blake1> <160113.21733.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001901ca668f$524e2550$f6ea6ff0$@com> <20091116150034.3210C187643@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <9CB0F7BA-FF48-4E16-AFC1-6875A4AD43BE@bnj.com> Really fun, watched it three times on my big screen. On Nov 16, 2009, at 7:00 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > Wow! That was thrilling! What a way to get the blood pumping in > the morning! I love Hans' commentary - he sounds so excited. > "Oversteer! Oversteer!" Thanks for sharing. > > - Tony Drews > > At 01:35 AM 11/16/2009, MadMarx wrote: >> This is what I try to achieve but probably never can reach. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBsBHEKOQKc >> >> >> Cheers >> Chris > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com From cartravel at pobox.com Mon Nov 16 13:50:20 2009 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:50:20 -0600 Subject: [Fot] TR3/4 Performance Camshafts - commercial message Message-ID: <4B01BB0C.4030509@pobox.com> I am getting together an order of camshafts for the TR3/4. I now have 4 different grinds, including a high performance street cam and three different racing cams. Complete specs along with those of other TR3/4 cams are listed at my website (link below). If you think you might need one of these within the next few months, you should get in on this group order. I have purchased a small batch of new chilled cast iron blanks, so I can grind the cam on a new blank or regrind a stock cam. The advantage of using a new blank is that the diameter of front half will be about 1/8 inch larger, i.e. stiffer and stronger. I believe I have finally found a grinder that does a good job at a reasonable price. He has some of the best CNC equipment available. CNC is nice because I can do a new grind without the up front cost to make a master. I've also got my Cam Doctor up and running and have now profiled a number of TR3/4 racing cams. I would like to profile some of the Kastner cams, because 0.050 numbers are not available for them. I also plan to start profiling cams for the 6 cylinder motors, e.g. TR5 cam. If you would like to loan me some interesting cams for profiling, please let me know. I will gladly share any information I get. Larry Young www.TildenTechnologies.com From GRMTim at aol.com Mon Nov 16 18:18:42 2009 From: GRMTim at aol.com (GRMTim at aol.com) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:18:42 EST Subject: [Fot] Your next project awaits... Message-ID: When the car count around here hit 20 and I told my wife we needed an Edsel wagon to tow the Group 44 GT6 around, she gently suggested (okay, perhaps it was less than gentle) that if I wanted to buy anything else, I need to clean up around here. To that end, I have thrown a Spitfire race car project on eBay, along with the beginnings of a Spit Six project. Next to go on eBay, if none of you want it... I also have our original Grassroots Motorsports 1500 Spitfire project car (Cover July 92 issue). It is a little worse for wear, but a Chimney Rock Hill climb, VTR national convention Solo I and SCCA Solo II Nats veteran. $1200 buys it with another 1500 parts car with everything needed. Includes JK Jackson built DSP legal engine, twin Weber DCOE 40s, Steve Eckerich limited slip dif, GT6 brakes and spindles, comp springs, roll bar, rebuilt trans, etc. etc. Also have a good 1.6 liter Miata engine if anyone wants to attempt a crazy swap. Engine has 60,000 miles on it and can be had for $500 obo. Also, we plan on bringing the Group 44 GT6+ to Sebring HSR event to lead the British car crowd around the track at lunch on Saturday. Tim Suddard Publisher; Classic Motorsports and Grassroots Motorsports magazines www.classicmotorsports.net www.grassrootsmotorsports.com Phone: (386) 673-4148 Fax: (386) 673-6040 From 19to1tr6 at comcast.net Thu Nov 19 19:48:50 2009 From: 19to1tr6 at comcast.net (Rob) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:48:50 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife In-Reply-To: <001901ca668f$524e2550$f6ea6ff0$@com> References: <000701ca6296$6bd6dbe0$6401a8c0@blake1><160113.21733.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001901ca668f$524e2550$f6ea6ff0$@com> Message-ID: Great Isn't he the man that said "put your eyes were you want to go and your hands will take you there" ----- Original Message ----- From: "MadMarx" To: Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:35 AM Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife > This is what I try to achieve but probably never can reach. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBsBHEKOQKc > > > Cheers > Chris > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net From triosan at gmail.com Mon Nov 16 21:28:26 2009 From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:28:26 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife In-Reply-To: References: <000701ca6296$6bd6dbe0$6401a8c0@blake1> <160113.21733.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001901ca668f$524e2550$f6ea6ff0$@com> Message-ID: <8cbd782d0911162028o67c560e7x441ca4a02e1f74a2@mail.gmail.com> Wow--watched it a couple of times--the second one just watching hands and shifting. So smoooooth --looks like he is barely turning the wheel --even on big fast corners. Quite a driver! quite a car [but then so were some of those Porsches he passed like they were almost still]. On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Rob <19to1tr6 at comcast.net> wrote: > Great Isn't he the man that said "put your eyes were you want to go and > your hands will take you there" > ----- Original Message ----- From: "MadMarx" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:35 AM > Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife > > >> This is what I try to achieve but probably never can reach. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBsBHEKOQKc >> >> >> Cheers >> Chris >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> >> >> You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com > -- Chuck Arnold From tr4racing at googlemail.com Tue Nov 17 03:44:13 2009 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:44:13 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife In-Reply-To: <8cbd782d0911162028o67c560e7x441ca4a02e1f74a2@mail.gmail.com> References: <000701ca6296$6bd6dbe0$6401a8c0@blake1> <160113.21733.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001901ca668f$524e2550$f6ea6ff0$@com> <8cbd782d0911162028o67c560e7x441ca4a02e1f74a2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001801ca6772$e83fabe0$b8bf03a0$@com> That year of the Video he won the 24 H race on the Nordschleife and was 57 years old. -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Chuck Arnold [mailto:triosan at gmail.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. November 2009 05:28 An: Rob Cc: MadMarx; fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife Wow--watched it a couple of times--the second one just watching hands and shifting. So smoooooth --looks like he is barely turning the wheel --even on big fast corners. Quite a driver! quite a car [but then so were some of those Porsches he passed like they were almost still]. On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Rob <19to1tr6 at comcast.net> wrote: > Great Isn't he the man that said "put your eyes were you want to go and > your hands will take you there" > ----- Original Message ----- From: "MadMarx" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:35 AM > Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife > > >> This is what I try to achieve but probably never can reach. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBsBHEKOQKc >> >> >> Cheers >> Chris >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> >> >> You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com > -- Chuck Arnold From 58tr3a at videotron.ca Tue Nov 17 07:40:02 2009 From: 58tr3a at videotron.ca (Don Elliott) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:40:02 -0500 Subject: [Fot] New Book due out May 2010 Message-ID: <5FA8A5CC6D7E486FA32F4623DFA70B8F@elliott7455dae> Northeast American Sports Car Races 1950-1959 http://www.veloce.co.uk/shop/products/productDetail.php?prod_id=V4254&prod_group=Motorsport&PHPSESSID=dc6f356faaa24492f2a3fb22ef2e704b From adams910 at gmail.com Tue Nov 17 08:09:55 2009 From: adams910 at gmail.com (Bob Adams) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:09:55 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife In-Reply-To: <001801ca6772$e83fabe0$b8bf03a0$@com> References: <000701ca6296$6bd6dbe0$6401a8c0@blake1> <160113.21733.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001901ca668f$524e2550$f6ea6ff0$@com> <8cbd782d0911162028o67c560e7x441ca4a02e1f74a2@mail.gmail.com> <001801ca6772$e83fabe0$b8bf03a0$@com> Message-ID: <673993c50911170709j4565c470jf596d5f14829041b@mail.gmail.com> Here is another good one from the 'Ring, in a much slower car (a pre-production S2000) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmEmHDimeH8 The driver, Motoharu "Gan San" Kurosawa is an old Nissan factory driver from the 1960's and '70's. I think he was 59 or so when that was filmed. Bob Adams From malaboge at aol.com Tue Nov 17 16:26:54 2009 From: malaboge at aol.com (malaboge at aol.com) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:26:54 -0500 Subject: [Fot] [Vintage-race] Brake Adapters In-Reply-To: <4785996B12C6453E99212D930C26468C@MATE1> References: <8CC345B293D06F0-5090-9A60@webmail-d085.sysops.aol.com> <4785996B12C6453E99212D930C26468C@MATE1> Message-ID: <8CC35F495151F70-9810-9D5@webmail-m003.sysops.aol.com> Kerry...and all you other inquisitive types... Well yeah I'm buildin up a non TR...it has many TR pieces on it (like most of the front end is GT6...including the normally bolted on GT suspension towers, which are welded to this chassis). It also has more than a few components from "that other" bastion of British busted knuckles...you know the one with the nifty motto...Safety Fast. I've got years of British iron piled around the scatter here and try as I might, none of the piles I delved into contained the adapters I need. I actually had to dismantle one of the TVR's here in the shop to make sure I wasn't goin crazy (no comments needed here) and that these adapters existed. Yes, they are the same as a pre-M TVR setup...like there's a lot-o-them around! I actually found several which looked right, but were for the smaller Girling calipers...the ole "close but no cigar" that usually accompanies most of my quests. Ted S sez he has some, so I can hopefully obtain a couple from him and get on with the long suffering resurrection of this Elva Courier MK IV irs car...yeah its gonna be a racer too! Too many projects an runnin out of tyme... Nick in Nor Cal -----Original Message----- From: KBS To: malaboge at aol.com Sent: Mon, Nov 16, 2009 4:25 am Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] Brake Adapters Now you have us guessing! TVR? Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 5:36 PM Subject: [Vintage-race] Brake Adapters > Fellow shop rats- > > > Ok you caught me...i'm workin on a non-TR...but at least it has a > bunch-o-TR > stuff on it. When it wouldn't move anymore cause the brakes were rusted > tight, a helpful soul removed the calipers so that it could roll. He > dutifully threw the calipers in the trunk, but evidently in his zeal, he > removed the brake caliper adapters as well. No prob except they didn't > end up > in the trunk, and now as I attempt a reconstruction of this little beauty, > I > do not have the adapters. I fished several out of the pile-o-parts in the > shop, but none are right. It would appear that they are GT6 style > adapters...they are "round" where they bolt to the upright (the GT6 size > upright) and take the larger 16P caliper (like a tr4). > > > Anyone have a set they would care to sell to the cause? > > > And yes, those are the breaks.... > Nick in Nor Cal > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as racecar at baltimoreknife.com > > Vintage-race at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-race From spitfiresuz at 141.com Tue Nov 17 18:12:27 2009 From: spitfiresuz at 141.com (Susan Kahler) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:12:27 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Non-LBC: Veyron vs. Lake. Who Wins? Message-ID: <4B0349FB.9020907@141.com> Hi all, I saw this today and just had to share it. Sad!!! But it's awesome it was caught on video! http://www.automoblog.net/2009/11/16/bugatti-veyron-crashes-into-lake/ But, while looking into it, I also found this link, which was pretty cool and more than made up for the above idiocy: http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3300.asp?id=14253 Keep Triumphing! Susan :) -- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationary. From mark at bradakis.com Tue Nov 17 18:47:56 2009 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:47:56 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Non-LBC: Veyron vs. Lake. Who Wins? In-Reply-To: <4B0349FB.9020907@141.com> References: <4B0349FB.9020907@141.com> Message-ID: <4B03524C.5040907@bradakis.com> Awww, poor fellow dropped his cell phone and wrecked his car. Sheesh. Speaking of idiots, I've had to deal with a couple the last few days. I'm trying to sell my clapped out piece of crap 1985 Nissan pickup for $275. It is running and driveable. I'm amazed, though, at the number of folks who see an ad that says stuff like "rusty, rough, needs work" and think it must be a clean one owner in showroom condition. Do these bozons really have no idea what a $275 vehicle might look like? I'm going to rerun the cragslist ad tomorrow after I get some more photos. I have an idea... Actually I did get a nice surprise, a nice check from someone on the TR list to support Team.Net. That helped make it a more pleasant day. mjb. From j.wags63 at yahoo.com Tue Nov 17 20:56:12 2009 From: j.wags63 at yahoo.com (John Wagner) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:56:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] TR 2-3-4 block info Message-ID: <870215.35620.qm@web59504.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Can someone tell me the stock block height of our favorite little tractor engine? Just the wrench John Wagner From lfritz82 at hotmail.com Tue Nov 17 21:42:44 2009 From: lfritz82 at hotmail.com (Lorne Fritz) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:42:44 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR6 distributor Message-ID: Has anyone on the list had problems with TR6 distributors. About once a year I get a TR6 in the shop that doesn't run smooth. By this I mean at crusing speed it has a slight miss or pulsation. Under load it seems ok. I have changed distributors and it will get better of worse but I can't seem to eliminate it. Also does anyone _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ From spitlist at cox.net Tue Nov 17 23:54:39 2009 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:54:39 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Non-LBC: Veyron vs. Lake. Who Wins? In-Reply-To: <4B0349FB.9020907@141.com> References: <4B0349FB.9020907@141.com> Message-ID: That's FUNNY! Anyone who pays One and a quarter Million Dollars for a car can drive it anywhere he wants! Joe. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Susan Kahler Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 6:12 PM To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Non-LBC: Veyron vs. Lake. Who Wins? Hi all, I saw this today and just had to share it. Sad!!! But it's awesome it was caught on video! http://www.automoblog.net/2009/11/16/bugatti-veyron-crashes-into-lake/ But, while looking into it, I also found this link, which was pretty cool and more than made up for the above idiocy: http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3300.asp?id=14253 Keep Triumphing! Susan :) -- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationary. You are subscribed as spitlist at cox.net http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as spitlist at cox.net From mdporter at dfn.com Wed Nov 18 00:16:23 2009 From: mdporter at dfn.com (Michael Porter) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:16:23 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Non-LBC: Veyron vs. Lake. Who Wins? In-Reply-To: References: <4B0349FB.9020907@141.com> Message-ID: <4B039F47.50805@dfn.com> Joe Curry wrote: > That's FUNNY! Anyone who pays One and a quarter Million Dollars for a car > can drive it anywhere he wants! > > > Hmm. I guess I'm too late to the fair. The YouTube notice says that the item has been removed due to a copyright claim by a Joe M. Garza. But, hey, a fool and his money are soon parted, and whatever. :) Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... From spitfiresuz at 141.com Wed Nov 18 03:50:15 2009 From: spitfiresuz at 141.com (Susan Kahler) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:50:15 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Non-LBC: Veyron vs. Lake. Who Wins? In-Reply-To: <4B039F47.50805@dfn.com> References: <4B0349FB.9020907@141.com> <4B039F47.50805@dfn.com> Message-ID: <4B03D167.900@141.com> From spitfiresuz at 141.com Wed Nov 18 03:56:01 2009 From: spitfiresuz at 141.com (Susan Kahler) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:56:01 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Non-LBC: Veyron vs. Lake. Who Wins? In-Reply-To: <4B039F47.50805@dfn.com> References: <4B0349FB.9020907@141.com> <4B039F47.50805@dfn.com> Message-ID: <4B03D2C1.4080700@141.com> Here's a working video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NJmB1F2mdE Susan :) Michael Porter wrote: > Hmm. I guess I'm too late to the fair. The YouTube notice says that > the item has been removed due to a copyright claim by a Joe M. Garza. > > > But, hey, a fool and his money are soon parted, and whatever. :) > > > Cheers. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.148 / Virus Database: 270.14.71/2510 - Release Date: 11/17/2009 7:26 PM > -- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationary. From jaboruch at netzero.net Wed Nov 18 16:17:34 2009 From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:17:34 GMT Subject: [Fot] Non-LBC: Veyron vs. Lake. Who Wins? Message-ID: <20091118.181734.9003.2@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Speaking of fools and their expensive cars, I was working in Greenville, SC this week and it was on the local news about a businessman that only got 3 years probation for motor vehicle homicide. Apparently he was driving his Maserati at speeds over 100 mph when it left the road, crossed a field, hit an embankment and was launched it into a house. The poor home owner was asleep in front of his TV in the family room at the back of his house when the car came crashing thru, killing the guy. I guess watching TV really is bad for us. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Susan Kahler To: Michael Porter Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Non-LBC: Veyron vs. Lake. Who Wins? Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:56:01 -0500 Here's a working video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NJmB1F2mdE Susan :) ____________________________________________________________ Culinary Arts Schools Earn your Culinary Degree at a college near you. Get info and apply! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/c?cp=ytbFGko2BgjyQOb2sx4J7wAAJz6U 0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAJqZmT4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABNlkgAAAAA= From tony at tonydrews.com Wed Nov 18 21:40:38 2009 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:40:38 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Vintage cars webpage Message-ID: <20091119044056.BA17118765A@autox.team.net> /YWeRuK: Permission denied From lfritz82 at hotmail.com Wed Nov 18 21:53:50 2009 From: lfritz82 at hotmail.com (Lorne Fritz) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:53:50 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR6 dist Message-ID: I'm going to install a Pertronix and if that doesn't work I going to send it to Advanced. Thanks for the feedback, Lorne _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMT AGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 From j.wags63 at yahoo.com Thu Nov 19 07:10:48 2009 From: j.wags63 at yahoo.com (John Wagner) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:10:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] TR 2-3-4 block Message-ID: <423173.57995.qm@web59501.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> I am still looking for the factory block or deck height. The distance between the center of the main journal and the top of the block. John Wagner j.wags63 at yahoo.com From 58tr3a at videotron.ca Thu Nov 19 08:15:06 2009 From: 58tr3a at videotron.ca (Don Elliott) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:15:06 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR 2-3-4 block info References: <870215.35620.qm@web59504.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <50DABE82473E47538461229DBC4E1430@elliott7455dae> I went and measured a spare engine block that I have - with my vernier. It measures 13.38" from the flat bottom face of the block where the oil pan is secured to the top of the block with the head removed. Don Elliott, Original Owner, 1958 TR3A, Montreal ----------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wagner" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:56 PM Subject: [Fot] TR 2-3-4 block info > Can someone tell me the stock block height of our favorite little tractor > engine? > > Just the wrench > John Wagner > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as 58tr3a at videotron.ca > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as 58tr3a at videotron.ca From bkahler1 at gmail.com Thu Nov 19 15:37:29 2009 From: bkahler1 at gmail.com (Brad Kahler) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:37:29 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Door transportation needed Message-ID: <2B51F4D6-E99D-440D-B024-931DC0A1BFD0@gmail.com> Ok, this probably an odd request even for me:) I recently purchased two cushman truckster doors and they are currently located near Fredericksburg Va. Somehow I need to find a way to get them transported from Fredericksburg to somewhere near Richmond Ky. Any and all options will be appreciated! Thanks! Brad (Susan's chief mechanic) Sent from my iPhone From ofbracing at nefcom.net Thu Nov 19 15:52:26 2009 From: ofbracing at nefcom.net (ofbracing) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:52:26 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Door transportation needed In-Reply-To: <2B51F4D6-E99D-440D-B024-931DC0A1BFD0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <059B6C45762C48A8B22B64A3530341A3@Dell5100Laptop> That's an easy one. As I recall, Leo Oddi lives in or near Fredericksburg and I'm sure he will be happy to bring the doors with him to Roebling Road in a couple weeks. You can pick them up there while you race with us at the VDCA season finale and pig pickin. The Triumph Ghetto will be in full swing with free food and drink for all TR drivers and crews. Don -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Kahler Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:37 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Door transportation needed Ok, this probably an odd request even for me:) I recently purchased two cushman truckster doors and they are currently located near Fredericksburg Va. Somehow I need to find a way to get them transported from Fredericksburg to somewhere near Richmond Ky. Any and all options will be appreciated! Thanks! Brad (Susan's chief mechanic) Sent from my iPhone You are subscribed as ofbracing at nefcom.net http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as ofbracing at nefcom.net From walt at hot-tr6.com Thu Nov 19 22:38:52 2009 From: walt at hot-tr6.com (Walter Hollowell) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:38:52 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Car guy Christmas lights Message-ID: <20091120053907.6618A187656@autox.team.net> I finished a fun little project for my two car guy gransdons ages 3 and 5. I made up a string of Hot Wheels Christmas lights. These came out so nice I thought I would share this idea with my FOT friends. I used some LED mini Christmas lights because they don't get hot. I bought a 60 light string and inserted a Hot Wheel every third light. I bought a bunch of Hot Wheels and placed each one on my drill press and drilled a hole straight down through the center of the car and out the bottom. I use some clear silicone to secure the lights. When you plug the lights in the cars light up through the cockpit and look really cool . My grandkids got a big kick out of this and yours might also. Walt Hollowell Albuquerque, New Mexico _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter . We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 91397 of my spam emails to date. The Professional version does not have this message. From gt6steve at aol.com Fri Nov 20 10:46:30 2009 From: gt6steve at aol.com (gt6steve at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:46:30 -0500 Subject: [Fot] six cylinder timing chains Message-ID: <8CC382086C809AD-302C-1B94A@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com> Amici, Who's got the best timing chains for the TR6's? Do any of our usual suspects sell Renolds chains? Steve = From s.janzen at comcast.net Fri Nov 20 11:41:59 2009 From: s.janzen at comcast.net (Scott Janzen) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:41:59 -0500 Subject: [Fot] six cylinder timing chains In-Reply-To: <8CC382086C809AD-302C-1B94A@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC382086C809AD-302C-1B94A@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <9DA46DCD-9353-4AA7-B06A-D8712E0A1F07@comcast.net> Have you had trouble with breakage or are just trying to minimize stretch? I put an adjustable timing gear on a recent engine build, and it definitely came with a heavier chain than stock, though it fits on the stock crank gear. It was not "branded" that I recall. Pretty sure I got it at Aptfast. On Nov 20, 2009, at 12:46 PM, gt6steve at aol.com wrote: Amici, Who's got the best timing chains for the TR6's? Do any of our usual suspects sell Renolds chains? Steve = Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as s.janzen at comcast.net From gt6steve at aol.com Fri Nov 20 13:55:59 2009 From: gt6steve at aol.com (gt6steve at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:55:59 -0500 Subject: [Fot] six cylinder timing chains In-Reply-To: <9DA46DCD-9353-4AA7-B06A-D8712E0A1F07@comcast.net> References: <8CC382086C809AD-302C-1B94A@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com> <9DA46DCD-9353-4AA7-B06A-D8712E0A1F07@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8CC383AFF8BCCA3-2AF4-E779@webmail-d061.sysops.aol.com> Haven't had a problem, just trying to ensure I don't. Thanx for the links. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Scott Janzen To: gt6steve at aol.com Cc: FOT at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, Nov 20, 2009 10:41 am Subject: Re: [Fot] six cylinder timing chains Have you had trouble with breakage or are just trying to minimize tretch? I put an adjustable timing gear on a recent engine build, nd it definitely came with a heavier chain than stock, though it fits n the stock crank gear. It was not "branded" that I recall. Pretty ure I got it at Aptfast. On Nov 20, 2009, at 12:46 PM, gt6steve at aol.com wrote: Amici, Who's got the best timing chains for the TR6's? Do any of our usual uspects ell Renolds chains? Steve ot at autox.team.net ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. ou are subscribed as s.janzen at comcast.net You are subscribed as gt6steve at aol.com http://www.fot-racing.com ot at autox.team.net ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. ou are subscribed as gt6steve at aol.com From lang at isis.mit.edu Fri Nov 20 14:40:07 2009 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:40:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR Message-ID: Hi, I'm running a TR6 with pretty much a stock rear suspension that it "upgraded" with TTune sprint springs and re-valved armstrong shocks. IT works pretty good, but it looks like I could benefit from a bit more bump resistance. Seeing that I autocross almost exclusively, the car transitions a LOT and for my setup that means the car squats big time when I jump on the throttle. At any rate, I'm considering waivering from the close to "as shipped" condition of my car (more like "as Harry Webster designed) and switching to tube shocks in the rear. I know about most of the bracket setups for TR6, as I purchased a set of tubulars way-way back in the day (1978 or 1979) that came with Monroe-matics! So, my question is this: for the bolt-in shock brackets that are out there in use ON RACE CARS - what are folks using for shocks? I know about AVO, SPAX, and Koni. What I'd be looking for is something that gives me some adjustment for bump... the Koni and Spax only allow rebound adjustment, so we're probably talking about a two-way adjustable. If you use this setup or know someone that does, I'd like some insight on the matter. Worst case, I have a pretty stout cage, so adding a couple of small bars and some ears would be "way easy". I'm just looking to avoid the situation I started about 5 years ago where we started going down the "$1200 per shock" road. I'm looking for something a little closer to off-the-shelf than "the-best-shock-ever-made". TIA, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent 2009 NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bownes at seiri.com Fri Nov 20 15:02:46 2009 From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:02:46 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well, other than going down the 'Call Joe Stimola, your friendly local Penske guy and drop $1k per' route, there are some good double adjustable shocks out there in the circle track world. Grab one of their catalogues. you should be able to get something that fits well. That being said, if you call Joe, you will never need to buy another shock for your car. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Robert M. Lang wrote: > Hi, > > I'm running a TR6 with pretty much a stock rear suspension that it > "upgraded" with TTune sprint springs and re-valved armstrong shocks. IT > works pretty good, but it looks like I could benefit from a bit more bump > resistance. Seeing that I autocross almost exclusively, the car transitions > a LOT and for my setup that means the car squats big time when I jump on the > throttle. > > At any rate, I'm considering waivering from the close to "as shipped" > condition of my car (more like "as Harry Webster designed) and switching to > tube shocks in the rear. > > I know about most of the bracket setups for TR6, as I purchased a set of > tubulars way-way back in the day (1978 or 1979) that came with > Monroe-matics! > > So, my question is this: for the bolt-in shock brackets that are out there > in use ON RACE CARS - what are folks using for shocks? I know about AVO, > SPAX, and Koni. What I'd be looking for is something that gives me some > adjustment for bump... the Koni and Spax only allow rebound adjustment, so > we're probably talking about a two-way adjustable. > > If you use this setup or know someone that does, I'd like some insight on > the matter. > > Worst case, I have a pretty stout cage, so adding a couple of small bars > and some ears would be "way easy". I'm just looking to avoid the situation I > started about 5 years ago where we started going down the "$1200 per shock" > road. I'm looking for something a little closer to off-the-shelf than > "the-best-shock-ever-made". > > TIA, > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > 2009 NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bownes at web9.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as bownes at web9.com From wgrosenbach at juno.com Fri Nov 20 16:19:00 2009 From: wgrosenbach at juno.com (William G Rosenbach) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:19:00 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR Message-ID: <20091120.161900.3904.4.wgrosenbach@juno.com> Bob, If squat is your problem, but you are otherwise happy with the set up, wouldn't a "Z" Bar, do what you need? Bill On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:40:07 -0500 (EST) "Robert M. Lang" writes: > Hi, > > I'm running a TR6 with pretty much a stock rear suspension that it > "upgraded" with TTune sprint springs and re-valved armstrong shocks. > IT > works pretty good, but it looks like I could benefit from a bit more > bump > resistance. Seeing that I autocross almost exclusively, the car > transitions a LOT and for my setup that means the car squats big > time when > I jump on the throttle. > > At any rate, I'm considering waivering from the close to "as > shipped" > condition of my car (more like "as Harry Webster designed) and > switching > to tube shocks in the rear. > > I know about most of the bracket setups for TR6, as I purchased a > set of > tubulars way-way back in the day (1978 or 1979) that came with > Monroe-matics! > > So, my question is this: for the bolt-in shock brackets that are out > there > in use ON RACE CARS - what are folks using for shocks? I know about > AVO, > SPAX, and Koni. What I'd be looking for is something that gives me > some > adjustment for bump... the Koni and Spax only allow rebound > adjustment, so > we're probably talking about a two-way adjustable. > > If you use this setup or know someone that does, I'd like some > insight on > the matter. > > Worst case, I have a pretty stout cage, so adding a couple of small > bars > and some ears would be "way easy". I'm just looking to avoid the > situation > I started about 5 years ago where we started going down the "$1200 > per > shock" road. I'm looking for something a little closer to > off-the-shelf > than "the-best-shock-ever-made". > > TIA, > rml > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for > rent > 2009 NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: > 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wgrosenbach at juno.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as wgrosenbach at juno.com > > ____________________________________________________________ Top Faith-Based Degrees Browse top Christian degrees from accredited online universities. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=5rN6mGfC8WsIVyjIyCzDJAAAJ1CU0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAOOlGz4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARFCQAAAAA= From goodparts at verizon.net Fri Nov 20 20:37:01 2009 From: goodparts at verizon.net (Richard Good) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:37:01 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR References: Message-ID: <019401ca6a5b$f0207e70$6402a8c0@richardyap2xwy> I always thought that the shock could not do much to control squat due to the length of time the downward pull is sustained during acceleration. I figured any setting that was stiff enough to control the squat would be rock solid on a quick bump. I can see a stiff compression setting making it take a wee bit longer to pull the back end down but I can't quite imagine it lessening the amount of squat. I would love to be proven wrong because my car has the same problem. Richard Good ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR > Hi, > > I'm running a TR6 with pretty much a stock rear suspension that it > "upgraded" with TTune sprint springs and re-valved armstrong shocks. IT > works pretty good, but it looks like I could benefit from a bit more bump > resistance. Seeing that I autocross almost exclusively, the car > transitions a LOT and for my setup that means the car squats big time when > I jump on the throttle. > > At any rate, I'm considering waivering from the close to "as shipped" > condition of my car (more like "as Harry Webster designed) and switching > to tube shocks in the rear. > > I know about most of the bracket setups for TR6, as I purchased a set of > tubulars way-way back in the day (1978 or 1979) that came with > Monroe-matics! > > So, my question is this: for the bolt-in shock brackets that are out there > in use ON RACE CARS - what are folks using for shocks? I know about AVO, > SPAX, and Koni. What I'd be looking for is something that gives me some > adjustment for bump... the Koni and Spax only allow rebound adjustment, so > we're probably talking about a two-way adjustable. > > If you use this setup or know someone that does, I'd like some insight on > the matter. > > Worst case, I have a pretty stout cage, so adding a couple of small bars > and some ears would be "way easy". I'm just looking to avoid the situation > I started about 5 years ago where we started going down the "$1200 per > shock" road. I'm looking for something a little closer to off-the-shelf > than "the-best-shock-ever-made". > > TIA, > rml > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > 2009 NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > _______________________________________________ From rjl at gt-classics.com Fri Nov 20 21:06:51 2009 From: rjl at gt-classics.com (R. John Lye) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:06:51 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Like Mr. Bownes, I have also had great results calling Joe and saying "here's what I've got, what do I need?" He'll get you what you need - but it won't be cheap. John At 05:02 PM 11/20/2009, robert bownes wrote: >Well, other than going down the 'Call Joe Stimola, your friendly local >Penske guy and drop $1k per' route, there are some good double adjustable >shocks out there in the circle track world. Grab one of their catalogues. >you should be able to get something that fits well. > >That being said, if you call Joe, you will never need to buy another shock >for your car. > >On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Robert M. Lang wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm running a TR6 with pretty much a stock rear suspension that it > > "upgraded" with TTune sprint springs and re-valved armstrong shocks. IT > > works pretty good, but it looks like I could benefit from a bit more bump > > resistance. Seeing that I autocross almost exclusively, the car transitions > > a LOT and for my setup that means the car squats big time when I > jump on the > > throttle. > > > > At any rate, I'm considering waivering from the close to "as shipped" > > condition of my car (more like "as Harry Webster designed) and switching to > > tube shocks in the rear. > > > > I know about most of the bracket setups for TR6, as I purchased a set of > > tubulars way-way back in the day (1978 or 1979) that came with > > Monroe-matics! > > > > So, my question is this: for the bolt-in shock brackets that are out there > > in use ON RACE CARS - what are folks using for shocks? I know about AVO, > > SPAX, and Koni. What I'd be looking for is something that gives me some > > adjustment for bump... the Koni and Spax only allow rebound adjustment, so > > we're probably talking about a two-way adjustable. > > > > If you use this setup or know someone that does, I'd like some insight on > > the matter. > > > > Worst case, I have a pretty stout cage, so adding a couple of small bars > > and some ears would be "way easy". I'm just looking to avoid the > situation I > > started about 5 years ago where we started going down the "$1200 per shock" > > road. I'm looking for something a little closer to off-the-shelf than > > "the-best-shock-ever-made". > > > > TIA, > > rml > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > > 2009 NER Solo Chair | > > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as bownes at web9.com > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > > > Fot at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > > > > You are subscribed as bownes at web9.com >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as rjl at gt-classics.com > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > >Fot at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > >You are subscribed as rjl at gt-classics.com Thanks, R. John Lye rjl6n at cstone.net From lfritz82 at hotmail.com Fri Nov 20 21:30:52 2009 From: lfritz82 at hotmail.com (Lorne Fritz) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:30:52 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR6 dist update Message-ID: I just installed a Pertronix unit, bumped the timing ahead and eliminated the vacuum retard and the car runs great. Thanks all for the help. Lorne _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ From robertten1 at aol.com Fri Nov 20 22:56:40 2009 From: robertten1 at aol.com (robertten1 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:56:40 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR In-Reply-To: <019401ca6a5b$f0207e70$6402a8c0@richardyap2xwy> References: <019401ca6a5b$f0207e70$6402a8c0@richardyap2xwy> Message-ID: <8CC3886879DA7D9-2E84-43A6@webmail-d042.sysops.aol.com> STIFFER SPRING(S) ?? Bob T -----Original Message----- From: Richard Good To: Robert M. Lang Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, Nov 20, 2009 10:37 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR I always thought that the shock could not do much to control squat due to the length of time the downward pull is sustained during acceleration. I figured any setting that was stiff enough to control the squat would be rock solid on a quick bump. I can see a stiff compression setting making it take a wee bit longer to pull the back end down but I can't quite imagine it lessening the amount of squat. I would love to be proven wrong because my car has the same problem. Richard Good ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR > Hi, > > I'm running a TR6 with pretty much a stock rear suspension that it > "upgraded" with TTune sprint springs and re-valved armstrong shocks. IT > works pretty good, but it looks like I could benefit from a bit more bump > resistance. Seeing that I autocross almost exclusively, the car > transitions a LOT and for my setup that means the car squats big time when > I jump on the throttle. > > At any rate, I'm considering waivering from the close to "as shipped" > condition of my car (more like "as Harry Webster designed) and switching > to tube shocks in the rear. > > I know about most of the bracket setups for TR6, as I purchased a set of > tubulars way-way back in the day (1978 or 1979) that came with > Monroe-matics! > > So, my question is this: for the bolt-in shock brackets that are out there > in use ON RACE CARS - what are folks using for shocks? I know about AVO, > SPAX, and Koni. What I'd be looking for is something that gives me some > adjustment for bump... the Koni and Spax only allow rebound adjustment, so > we're probably talking about a two-way adjustable. > > If you use this setup or know someone that does, I'd like some insight on > the matter. > > Worst case, I have a pretty stout cage, so adding a couple of small bars > and some ears would be "way easy". I'm just looking to avoid the situation > I started about 5 years ago where we started going down the "$1200 per > shock" road. I'm looking for something a little closer to off-the-shelf > than "the-best-shock-ever-made". > > TIA, > rml > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > 2009 NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > _______________________________________________ You are subscribed as robertten1 at aol.com http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as robertten1 at aol.com From cofrog at q.com Sat Nov 21 10:11:07 2009 From: cofrog at q.com (Dan Forgey) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:11:07 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR and a new question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Robert, I have Spax tube shocks on my TR4A racer with Richard Good's springs and sway bar and have no squat. It should be noted that Triumph Tune has several rear springs sets available and you may need to consider a set with a higher spring rate and/or a conversion to tube shocks. Their softest spring rate is 420 lbs/inch and those springs are blue with a color code of green, yellow, yellow with a fitted length of 8.85 inches. Now a question to listers. I have Goodparts front and rear springs that were installed by the previous owner. They cause the car to be noticably higher in the rear (the rear camber adjustment is not causing the rear being high). The spring rates for the Goodparts springs are 390 for the front and 470 for the rear. I see in Goodparts web site that rears may available with a 550 spring rate from him however they are not listed to be ordered so I assume I have the 470s. (Richard, is there a way to visually tell your 470s from the 550s?) I have sourced a set of Triumph Tune rears that have a spring rate of 550 which when installed have the car sitting level. The question I have is; with rears of 550 lbs/inch would I have a dangerous oversteer if I keep the 390s in the front? Thanks, Dan > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:40:07 -0500 > From: lang at isis.mit.edu > To: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR > > Hi, > > I'm running a TR6 with pretty much a stock rear suspension that it > "upgraded" with TTune sprint springs and re-valved armstrong shocks. IT > works pretty good, but it looks like I could benefit from a bit more bump > resistance. Seeing that I autocross almost exclusively, the car > transitions a LOT and for my setup that means the car squats big time when > I jump on the throttle. > > At any rate, I'm considering waivering from the close to "as shipped" > condition of my car (more like "as Harry Webster designed) and switching > to tube shocks in the rear. > > I know about most of the bracket setups for TR6, as I purchased a set of > tubulars way-way back in the day (1978 or 1979) that came with > Monroe-matics! > > So, my question is this: for the bolt-in shock brackets that are out there > in use ON RACE CARS - what are folks using for shocks? I know about AVO, > SPAX, and Koni. What I'd be looking for is something that gives me some > adjustment for bump... the Koni and Spax only allow rebound adjustment, so > we're probably talking about a two-way adjustable. > > If you use this setup or know someone that does, I'd like some insight on > the matter. > > Worst case, I have a pretty stout cage, so adding a couple of small bars > and some ears would be "way easy". I'm just looking to avoid the situation > I started about 5 years ago where we started going down the "$1200 per > shock" road. I'm looking for something a little closer to off-the-shelf > than "the-best-shock-ever-made". > > TIA, > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > 2009 NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > > ) 2009 Microsoft Privacy Terms of use Account Feedback From tr4racing at googlemail.com Sat Nov 21 16:42:20 2009 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:42:20 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Video racing in USA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001201ca6b04$46020860$d2061920$@com> I don't know if this has been posted before but there are some TR3 visible. Cheers CHris From mike.mehl at yahoo.com Sat Nov 21 17:55:48 2009 From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:55:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] spark plug help Message-ID: <351778.18692.qm@web46110.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> The TR4 is coming along. The engine is back in the car. The roll cage is done. The fuel cell is plumbed in. The distributor is back from Jeff at Advanced Distributor. The compression is 11.27 to 1. What plugs should I use? What gap with those plugs? Thanks!!!! Mike Mehl From wgrosenbach at juno.com Sat Nov 21 21:19:27 2009 From: wgrosenbach at juno.com (William G Rosenbach) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:19:27 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife Message-ID: <20091121.211928.1204.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> Greetings all, Autotech.com in California stocks Quaife gear sets and has the TR-6, and it's on SALE!. I cut and pasted, so I hope it posts correctly, Bill 4 SPEED DOG ENGAGEMENT GEARKIT Straight cut, close ratios gears Needle roller bearings support free running gears Includes new Quaife mainshaft Choice of 1st gear ratios GEAR RATIOS 1st2nd3rd4th 2.013 2.223 1.5131.2051.000 Triumph TR6 4 speed dog engagementcall Prices and specifications subject to change without notice. Here is your chance to get Quaife differentials and gearkits at never-to-be-seen-again prices. Prices are good only while supplies last. Once they're gone, they're gone.TRIUMPH 95.309.160Triumph TR6 - TR5902.44 ____________________________________________________________ Doctorate Degrees Online Boost your career with an online doctoral degree. Enroll today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=m2dAQP1rcp7K9q0uBZq7cQAAJ1CU0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAFAntD4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAyOQAAAAA= [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of triumph-title.gif] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of news2.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of H_I_sale.gif] From billb at bnj.com Sat Nov 21 22:25:02 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:25:02 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife In-Reply-To: <20091121.211928.1204.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> References: <20091121.211928.1204.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> Message-ID: Couldn't find it on their website. I'm interested. On Nov 21, 2009, at 8:19 PM, William G Rosenbach wrote: > Greetings all, > Autotech.com in California stocks Quaife gear sets and has the TR-6, and > it's on SALE!. > I cut and pasted, so I hope it posts correctly, > Bill > > > > > 4 SPEED DOG ENGAGEMENT GEARKIT > > Straight cut, close ratios gears > Needle roller bearings support free running gears > Includes new Quaife mainshaft > Choice of 1st gear ratios > GEAR RATIOS > 1st2nd3rd4th > 2.013 > 2.223 1.5131.2051.000 > > Triumph TR6 4 speed dog engagementcall > > > Prices and specifications subject to change without notice. > > > Here is your chance to get Quaife differentials and gearkits at > never-to-be-seen-again prices. Prices are good only while supplies last. > Once they're gone, they're gone.TRIUMPH > 95.309.160Triumph TR6 - TR5902.44 > ____________________________________________________________ > Doctorate Degrees Online > Boost your career with an online doctoral degree. Enroll today! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=m2dAQP1rcp7K9q0uBZq7cQAAJ1CU0Hc Z7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAFAntD4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAyOQAAAAA= > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of triumph-title.gif] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of news2.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of H_I_sale.gif] > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com From tr3a58 at verizon.net Sun Nov 22 07:42:49 2009 From: tr3a58 at verizon.net (Dean Tetterton) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:42:49 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife Message-ID: <116337857.351575.1258900969403.JavaMail.root@vms232.mailsrvcs.net> From billb at bnj.com Sun Nov 22 08:28:03 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:28:03 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife In-Reply-To: <20091121.211928.1204.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> References: <20091121.211928.1204.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> Message-ID: <616398D3-A559-4533-8704-D712546826BC@bnj.com> Well, that didn't work so well, teamnet stripped off the mime bits. Could you send it to me directly On Nov 21, 2009, at 8:19 PM, William G Rosenbach wrote: > Greetings all, > Autotech.com in California stocks Quaife gear sets and has the TR-6, and > it's on SALE!. > I cut and pasted, so I hope it posts correctly, > Bill > > > > > 4 SPEED DOG ENGAGEMENT GEARKIT > > Straight cut, close ratios gears > Needle roller bearings support free running gears > Includes new Quaife mainshaft > Choice of 1st gear ratios > GEAR RATIOS > 1st2nd3rd4th > 2.013 > 2.223 1.5131.2051.000 > > Triumph TR6 4 speed dog engagementcall > > > Prices and specifications subject to change without notice. > > > Here is your chance to get Quaife differentials and gearkits at > never-to-be-seen-again prices. Prices are good only while supplies last. > Once they're gone, they're gone.TRIUMPH > 95.309.160Triumph TR6 - TR5902.44 > ____________________________________________________________ > Doctorate Degrees Online > Boost your career with an online doctoral degree. Enroll today! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=m2dAQP1rcp7K9q0uBZq7cQAAJ1CU0Hc Z7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAFAntD4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAyOQAAAAA= > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of triumph-title.gif] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of news2.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of H_I_sale.gif] > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com From gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com Sun Nov 22 10:23:07 2009 From: gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com (Greg Solow) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:23:07 -0800 Subject: [Fot] test of system Message-ID: This is just a test to see if my Email system is working The Engine Room Morgan & Sports Car Specialists Santa Cruz, Calif. 95060 831 429-1800 From gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com Sun Nov 22 10:27:34 2009 From: gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com (Greg Solow) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:27:34 -0800 Subject: [Fot] this is a tesst Message-ID: <946FCCA2AB034958B3A7BED3A76C69CA@your89d26e0447> test The Engine Room Morgan & Sports Car Specialists Santa Cruz, Calif. 95060 831 429-1800 From wgrosenbach at juno.com Sun Nov 22 13:37:47 2009 From: wgrosenbach at juno.com (William G Rosenbach) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:37:47 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife Message-ID: <20091122.133748.2568.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> Dean, Thanks for finding that. Every time I copied and pasted a URL, it pasted the same info regardless of the page I was on. Then it wouldn't take you there. Bill On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:42:49 -0600 (CST) Dean Tetterton writes: Try this link http://www.autotech.com/quaife/gears/triumph.htm Dean T. On Nov 22, 2009, Bill Babcock wrote: Couldn't find it on their website. I'm interested. On Nov 21, 2009, at 8:19 PM, William G Rosenbach wrote: > Greetings all, > Autotech.com in California stocks Quaife gear sets and has the TR-6, and > it's on SALE!. > I cut and pasted, so I hope it posts correctly, > Bill > > > > ____________________________________________________________ Online Doctorate Degrees Find leading online Phd programs. Study anywhere anytime. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=J__JNfVg7aQ5V8CT8N2M5wAAJ1CU0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAADp7tT4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaUcwAAAAA= From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Sun Nov 22 14:32:46 2009 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis DeLap) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:32:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife In-Reply-To: <20091122.133748.2568.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> References: <20091122.133748.2568.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> Message-ID: <915802.98043.qm@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Has anyone got a price yet? Dean, Thanks for finding that. Every time I copied and pasted a URL, it pasted the same info regardless of the page I was on. Then it wouldn't take you there. Bill On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:42:49 -0600 (CST) Dean Tetterton writes: Try this link http://www.autotech.com/quaife/gears/triumph.htm Dean T. On Nov 22, 2009, Bill Babcock wrote: Couldn't find it on their website. I'm interested. On Nov 21, 2009, at 8:19 PM, William G Rosenbach wrote: > Greetings all, > Autotech.com in California stocks Quaife gear sets and has the TR-6, and > it's on SALE!. > I cut and pasted, so I hope it posts correctly, > Bill > > > > ____________________________________________________________ Online Doctorate Degrees Find leading online Phd programs. Study anywhere anytime. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=J__JNfVg7aQ5V8CT8N2M5wAAJ1CU0Hc Z7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAADp7tT4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaUcwAAAAA= _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as yellow-green at sbcglobal.net http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as yellow-green at sbcglobal.net From rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Sun Nov 22 14:34:36 2009 From: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:34:36 -0600 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife References: <20091122.133748.2568.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> Message-ID: <0081C46CEC8B44988A1B62FF54A9EBBF@latitudefb1e41> This link shows the price: http://www.autotech.com/quaife/index2.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "William G Rosenbach" To: Cc: Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife > Dean, > Thanks for finding that. Every time I copied and pasted a URL, it pasted > the same info regardless of the page I was on. Then it wouldn't take you > there. > Bill > > On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:42:49 -0600 (CST) Dean Tetterton > writes: > Try this link http://www.autotech.com/quaife/gears/triumph.htm > > Dean T. > > > > On Nov 22, 2009, Bill Babcock wrote: > Couldn't find it on their website. I'm interested. > > On Nov 21, 2009, at 8:19 PM, William G Rosenbach wrote: > >> Greetings all, >> Autotech.com in California stocks Quaife gear sets and has the TR-6, > and >> it's on SALE!. >> I cut and pasted, so I hope it posts correctly, >> Bill >> >> >> >> > ____________________________________________________________ > Online Doctorate Degrees > Find leading online Phd programs. Study anywhere anytime. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=J__JNfVg7aQ5V8CT8N2M5wAAJ1CU0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAADp7tT4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaUcwAAAAA= > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rkramer3 at austin.rr.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as rkramer3 at austin.rr.com From tr4racing at googlemail.com Sun Nov 22 15:30:13 2009 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:30:13 +0100 Subject: [Fot] spark plug help In-Reply-To: <351778.18692.qm@web46110.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <351778.18692.qm@web46110.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000901ca6bc3$6050e730$20f2b590$@com> Hi, I use Bosch W6BC, gapped at 0.7 mm. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Mike Mehl Gesendet: Sonntag, 22. November 2009 01:56 An: Triumph Friends of Betreff: [Fot] spark plug help The TR4 is coming along. The engine is back in the car. The roll cage is done. The fuel cell is plumbed in. The distributor is back from Jeff at Advanced Distributor. The compression is 11.27 to 1. What plugs should I use? What gap with those plugs? Thanks!!!! Mike Mehl You are subscribed as tr4racing at googlemail.com http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as tr4racing at googlemail.com From tr4racing at googlemail.com Sun Nov 22 15:33:19 2009 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:33:19 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Video racing in USA In-Reply-To: <4b08c684.0a08c00a.19c5.4340SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> References: <001201ca6b04$46020860$d2061920$@com> <4b08c684.0a08c00a.19c5.4340SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <000a01ca6bc3$d0957150$71c053f0$@com> The missing link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H06_ZSdhHFA&translated=1 -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Tony Drews [mailto:tony at tonydrews.com] Gesendet: Sonntag, 22. November 2009 06:05 An: MadMarx Betreff: Re: [Fot] Video racing in USA I think you forgot the link... - Tony At 05:42 PM 11/21/2009, you wrote: >I don't know if this has been posted before but there are some TR3 visible. > >Cheers >CHris >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as tony at tonydrews.com > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > >Fot at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > >You are subscribed as tony at tonydrews.com From Lunkercars at earthlink.net Sun Nov 22 15:34:53 2009 From: Lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg "Lunker" Hilyer) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:34:53 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Racin' for charity [no Triumph content] Message-ID: <811F9658-4803-4D99-856B-1B09CE645EF3@earthlink.net> Hello FoTers, Did you know November is Diabetes Awareness Month? The 29th of this month, our local kart racing club [Albuquerque Karting] is holding a Charity Enduro in support of the Junior Diabetes Research Foundation. 180 laps, 3 drivers per team and one must be a novice in this type of kart - that's me! The karts are called TaG's - Touch and Go - for their electric start and centrifugal clutch. On this technical 1/3rd mile track these little beasties are actually faster than any of the shifters! A far difference from the 4 stroke "Concession Karts" I race in the league races. 10 laps is fairly brutal. My first practice in one was 2 weeks ago - I managed 33 laps in 3 sessions and could hardly hold the steering wheel to drive myself home. Today we had a 90 lap "mini-enduro" practice race and my 30 lap stint didn't get me quite as bad [yet?] as I expected. But 60 laps is going to HURT. So yes, this posting is pure solicitation. If anyone feels compelled to support me in fundraising, it would be personally appreciated and you can be assured your contribution is going to a truly worthy cause. So far I've received donations from $10 to $250 - no amount is too small. The race is this coming Sunday the 29th but there's still plenty of time to put a check in the mail or send a Pay-Pal. If paying by check, please make it out to J.D.R.F. [Junior Diabetes Research Foundation] and send to my address below. If sending a Pay-Pal, I will cover the fees so that 100% of your donation goes to JDRF. I will get individual cash receipts at the event and mail it back to you. As in our vintage racing there is nothing to be won - just bragging rights for the fastest team and the team that raises the most money. My team-mate Chris Norris put this thing together. At age 12 he went to bed one night and woke up 3 weeks later with FOUR I.V.'s in him and insulin dependance for life. Today Chris went out in our practice race and broke the track record in each of three consecutive laps. My pace was 1.1 secs. off his so not so bad for the rookie I guess. Our team [Team Machine] won today by 5 laps. On the other hand, one of the faster teams didn't feel the need to practice today - they could be a force. We have 7 confirmed teams and hoping for 9-10. Thanks in advance, Greg "Lunker" Hilyer TR4 #314 323-K Claremont Ave NW Albuquerque NM 87107 From triosan at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 09:33:53 2009 From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:33:53 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife In-Reply-To: <7BEE405E-CB47-438F-A3C8-1291662DC36F@bnj.com> References: <20091121.211928.1204.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> <8cbd782d0911221015o7ff94f91i6d8fef453d1189b@mail.gmail.com> <499A76DE-BDD5-48F8-82BE-196959B94C47@bnj.com> <7BEE405E-CB47-438F-A3C8-1291662DC36F@bnj.com> Message-ID: <8cbd782d0911230833y6b339a6x22e1fd4f8283e485@mail.gmail.com> Unfortunately that part number was for a differential, not a gear set. They have no TR gear sets. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: > Here's the ratios. The 2.013 looks good to me. > http://www.autotech.com/quaife/gears/triumph.htm > On Nov 22, 2009, at 12:22 PM, Tony and Annie Garmey wrote: > > Hey Bill, > Jezz what a price. Scam ?? > Can you please have them send 2 sets to me. I'll give you a credit on Peytoe > for cost of one set. > Thank you. > Tony > 21703 234th ave SE > Maple valley wa 98038 > >> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife >> From: billb at bnj.com >> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:47:19 -0800 >> CC: horizonracing at msn.com >> To: triosan at gmail.com >> >> Wow, nine hundred bucks is about $500 less than I paid a year or so ago. >> Tony, I'm going to get one shipped to you. What address should I use. Does >> it make more sense for you to order it? >> >> >> >> On Nov 22, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Chuck Arnold wrote: >> >> > I found this link: >> > http://www.autotech.com/quaife/news.htm >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: >> >> Couldn't find it on their website. I'm interested. >> >> >> >> On Nov 21, 2009, at 8:19 PM, William G Rosenbach wrote: >> >> >> >>> Greetings all, >> >>> Autotech.com in California stocks Quaife gear sets and has the TR-6, >> >>> and >> >>> it's on SALE!. >> >>> I cut and pasted, so I hope it posts correctly, >> >>> Bill >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> 4 SPEED DOG ENGAGEMENT GEARKIT >> >>> >> >>> Straight cut, close ratios gears >> >>> Needle roller bearings support free running gears >> >>> Includes new Quaife mainshaft >> >>> Choice of 1st gear ratios >> >>> GEAR RATIOS >> >>> 1st2nd3rd4th >> >>> 2.013 >> >>> 2.223 1.5131.2051.000 >> >>> >> >>> Triumph TR6 4 speed dog engagementcall >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Prices and specifications subject to change without notice. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Here is your chance to get Quaife differentials and gearkits at >> >>> never-to-be-seen-again prices. Prices are good only while supplies >> >>> last. >> >>> Once they're gone, they're gone.TRIUMPH >> >>> 95.309.160Triumph TR6 - TR5902.44 >> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >> >>> Doctorate Degrees Online >> >>> Boost your career with an online doctoral degree. Enroll today! >> >>> >> >> >> >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=m2dAQP1rcp7K9q0uBZq7cQAAJ1CU 0Hc >> >> Z7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAFAntD4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAyOQAAAAA= >> >>> >> >>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name >> >>> of >> >> triumph-title.gif] >> >>> >> >>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >> >>> name of >> >> news2.jpg] >> >>> >> >>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name >> >>> of >> >> H_I_sale.gif] >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> >> >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >>> >> >>> You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com >> >>> >> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Fot at autox.team.net >> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >>> >> >>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> >> >> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >> >> >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> >> >> >> >> >> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Chuck Arnold >> > > -- Chuck Arnold From billb at bnj.com Mon Nov 23 09:54:55 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:54:55 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife In-Reply-To: <8cbd782d0911230833y6b339a6x22e1fd4f8283e485@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091121.211928.1204.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> <8cbd782d0911221015o7ff94f91i6d8fef453d1189b@mail.gmail.com> <499A76DE-BDD5-48F8-82BE-196959B94C47@bnj.com> <7BEE405E-CB47-438F-A3C8-1291662DC36F@bnj.com> <8cbd782d0911230833y6b339a6x22e1fd4f8283e485@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Bummer. Sure looked like a good deal. too good. On Nov 23, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Chuck Arnold wrote: > Unfortunately that part number was for a differential, not a gear set. > They have no TR gear sets. > > On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: >> Here's the ratios. The 2.013 looks good to me. >> http://www.autotech.com/quaife/gears/triumph.htm >> On Nov 22, 2009, at 12:22 PM, Tony and Annie Garmey wrote: >> >> Hey Bill, >> Jezz what a price. Scam ?? >> Can you please have them send 2 sets to me. I'll give you a credit on Peytoe >> for cost of one set. >> Thank you. >> Tony >> 21703 234th ave SE >> Maple valley wa 98038 >> >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife >>> From: billb at bnj.com >>> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:47:19 -0800 >>> CC: horizonracing at msn.com >>> To: triosan at gmail.com >>> >>> Wow, nine hundred bucks is about $500 less than I paid a year or so ago. >>> Tony, I'm going to get one shipped to you. What address should I use. Does >>> it make more sense for you to order it? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Nov 22, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Chuck Arnold wrote: >>> >>>> I found this link: >>>> http://www.autotech.com/quaife/news.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: >>>>> Couldn't find it on their website. I'm interested. >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 21, 2009, at 8:19 PM, William G Rosenbach wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Greetings all, >>>>>> Autotech.com in California stocks Quaife gear sets and has the TR-6, >>>>>> and >>>>>> it's on SALE!. >>>>>> I cut and pasted, so I hope it posts correctly, >>>>>> Bill >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 4 SPEED DOG ENGAGEMENT GEARKIT >>>>>> >>>>>> Straight cut, close ratios gears >>>>>> Needle roller bearings support free running gears >>>>>> Includes new Quaife mainshaft >>>>>> Choice of 1st gear ratios >>>>>> GEAR RATIOS >>>>>> 1st2nd3rd4th >>>>>> 2.013 >>>>>> 2.223 1.5131.2051.000 >>>>>> >>>>>> Triumph TR6 4 speed dog engagementcall >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Prices and specifications subject to change without notice. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is your chance to get Quaife differentials and gearkits at >>>>>> never-to-be-seen-again prices. Prices are good only while supplies >>>>>> last. >>>>>> Once they're gone, they're gone.TRIUMPH >>>>>> 95.309.160Triumph TR6 - TR5902.44 >>>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>>> Doctorate Degrees Online >>>>>> Boost your career with an online doctoral degree. Enroll today! >>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=m2dAQP1rcp7K9q0uBZq7cQAAJ1CU0Hc >>>>> Z7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAFAntD4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAyOQAAAAA= >>>>>> >>>>>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name >>>>>> of >>>>> triumph-title.gif] >>>>>> >>>>>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >>>>>> name of >>>>> news2.jpg] >>>>>> >>>>>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name >>>>>> of >>>>> H_I_sale.gif] >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>>> >>>>>> You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Fot at autox.team.net >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>>>>> >>>>>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> >>>>> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Fot at autox.team.net >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>>>> >>>>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Chuck Arnold >>> >> >> > > > > -- > Chuck Arnold From Lunkercars at earthlink.net Mon Nov 23 10:13:34 2009 From: Lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg Lunker Hilyer) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:13:34 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Quaife dog gears Message-ID: <9763EFF1-8F8A-4A9C-865C-8FC85446F2CF@earthlink.net> Here's the skinny on Quaife/TR. AutoTech is no longer a Quaife distributor. They are selling off in-stock inventory. No trans parts available but they do have a great deal on a few LSD's at $902. They referred me to Motorvicity in Michigan. Dog kits are available with either a 2.013 or 2.223 1st and either a TR6 or Dolomite main shaft. Price was quoted at $2658 but would go down to $2127 on a order of 5. Might be a additional discount available for 10+. Still too rich for me but it sure would be nice. Might actually be cheaper in the long run given my consumption rate of gearboxes but probably not in my immediate future. Greg "Lunker" Hilyer TR4 #314 Albuquerque NM From wgrosenbach at juno.com Mon Nov 23 10:13:46 2009 From: wgrosenbach at juno.com (William G Rosenbach) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:13:46 -0700 Subject: [Fot] All Hail Lucas, Prince of Darkness! Message-ID: <20091123.101347.2856.5.wgrosenbach@juno.com> We've all been there. http://www.hummingbirds.net/lucas/index.html ____________________________________________________________ Free College Information Connect to the online college that best fits your needs. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=QzS8GpdslJrIxnV5GJIx4gAAJ1CU0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAJ9cGD4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAJWaQAAAAA= From wgrosenbach at juno.com Mon Nov 23 11:07:51 2009 From: wgrosenbach at juno.com (William G Rosenbach) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:07:51 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife Message-ID: <20091123.110751.2856.6.wgrosenbach@juno.com> That really is sad. There was a typo disclaimer, though. Makes you wonder about all the other cool stuff listed. Sorry for the wild goose chase, Bill ____________________________________________________________ Health Insurance Deals Get free online quotes on self employed health insurance - Save 30%! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=XBnQuzGnyNtpgkgB2fOZHQAAJ1CU0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAADi4QD4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABJQVgAAAAA= From Lunkercars at earthlink.net Mon Nov 23 11:28:33 2009 From: Lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg "Lunker" Hilyer) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:28:33 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Quaife dog gears In-Reply-To: <8cbd782d0911231018h4939f4f2h7e83ffd99b45af22@mail.gmail.com> References: <9763EFF1-8F8A-4A9C-865C-8FC85446F2CF@earthlink.net> <8cbd782d0911231018h4939f4f2h7e83ffd99b45af22@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0330F47F-60D3-4211-93C9-4F076BDB5A92@earthlink.net> Yeah... It does seem to be a pay now or pay later deal. I'm already good money down the drain with the Dolo/6 set I broke in Portland [still haven't investigated the damage]. I actually might step up if we could get the 5+ price. Greg On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Chuck Arnold wrote: > Thanks for the additional research. Pretty pricey, but Tony G says it > is the only way to go to assure your box will last. Given that he > will do a rebuild and install the Dolomite close ratio set for about > $2000it will only take the one he has done for me blowing up beyond > repair to justify the Quaife cost [course I already have sunk the 2K]. > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Greg Lunker > wrote: >> Here's the skinny on Quaife/TR. AutoTech is no longer a Quaife >> distributor. >> They are selling off in-stock inventory. No trans parts available >> but they >> do have a great deal on a few LSD's at $902. They referred me to >> Motorvicity >> in Michigan. Dog kits are available with either a 2.013 or 2.223 >> 1st and >> either a TR6 or Dolomite main shaft. Price was quoted at $2658 but >> would go >> down to $2127 on a order of 5. Might be a additional discount >> available for >> 10+. >> Still too rich for me but it sure would be nice. Might actually be >> cheaper >> in the long run given my consumption rate of gearboxes but >> probably not in >> my immediate future. >> >> Greg "Lunker" Hilyer >> TR4 #314 >> Albuquerque NM >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> >> >> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >> > > > > -- > Chuck Arnold From timmurph at fastbytes.com Mon Nov 23 11:38:26 2009 From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:38:26 -0600 Subject: [Fot] spark plug help In-Reply-To: <351778.18692.qm@web46110.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <351778.18692.qm@web46110.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000801ca6c6c$25a07160$70e15420$@com> We use NGK BPR7HS gapped at 0.025 or about 0.65mm. Tim 1961 TR4 #317 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Mehl Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 6:56 PM To: Triumph Friends of Subject: [Fot] spark plug help The TR4 is coming along. The engine is back in the car. The roll cage is done. The fuel cell is plumbed in. The distributor is back from Jeff at Advanced Distributor. The compression is 11.27 to 1. What plugs should I use? What gap with those plugs? Thanks!!!! Mike Mehl You are subscribed as timmurph at fastbytes.com http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as timmurph at fastbytes.com From rek46 at aol.com Mon Nov 23 11:44:48 2009 From: rek46 at aol.com (rek46 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:44:48 CST Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife Message-ID: I can't believe you don't justin welded diffs -----Original Message----- Date: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:36:47 pm To: triosan at gmail.com Cc: fot at autox.team.net From: "William G Rosenbach" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife That really is sad. There was a typo disclaimer, though. Makes you wonder about all the other cool stuff listed. Sorry for the wild goose chase, Bill ____________________________________________________________ Health Insurance Deals Get free online quotes on self employed health insurance - Save 30%! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=XBnQuzGnyNtpgkgB2fOZHQAAJ1CU0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAADi4QD4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABJQVgAAAAA= You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com From billb at bnj.com Mon Nov 23 12:03:18 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:03:18 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Quaife dog gears In-Reply-To: <0330F47F-60D3-4211-93C9-4F076BDB5A92@earthlink.net> References: <9763EFF1-8F8A-4A9C-865C-8FC85446F2CF@earthlink.net> <8cbd782d0911231018h4939f4f2h7e83ffd99b45af22@mail.gmail.com> <0330F47F-60D3-4211-93C9-4F076BDB5A92@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <6C084C4A-EF51-43C9-A304-18CB40D1A034@bnj.com> The dog boxes are great, but they are not bulletproof, I dropped one right at turn 1 at Pacific Raceways--peyote wound up with it's front end in the air plowing the infield with what was left of the gearbox. And don't forget that you need a good TR6 gearcase to install the set into, and installing it isn't trivial, though nothing as ugly as building a good stocker CR box. On Nov 23, 2009, at 10:28 AM, Greg Lunker Hilyer wrote: > Yeah... It does seem to be a pay now or pay later deal. I'm already good money down the drain with the Dolo/6 set I broke in Portland [still haven't investigated the damage]. I actually might step up if we could get the 5+ price. > Greg > On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Chuck Arnold wrote: > >> Thanks for the additional research. Pretty pricey, but Tony G says it >> is the only way to go to assure your box will last. Given that he >> will do a rebuild and install the Dolomite close ratio set for about >> $2000it will only take the one he has done for me blowing up beyond >> repair to justify the Quaife cost [course I already have sunk the 2K]. >> >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Greg Lunker wrote: >>> Here's the skinny on Quaife/TR. AutoTech is no longer a Quaife distributor. >>> They are selling off in-stock inventory. No trans parts available but they >>> do have a great deal on a few LSD's at $902. They referred me to Motorvicity >>> in Michigan. Dog kits are available with either a 2.013 or 2.223 1st and >>> either a TR6 or Dolomite main shaft. Price was quoted at $2658 but would go >>> down to $2127 on a order of 5. Might be a additional discount available for >>> 10+. >>> Still too rich for me but it sure would be nice. Might actually be cheaper >>> in the long run given my consumption rate of gearboxes but probably not in >>> my immediate future. >>> >>> Greg "Lunker" Hilyer >>> TR4 #314 >>> Albuquerque NM >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>> >>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >>> >>> >>> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Chuck Arnold > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com From fasttrs at mindspring.com Mon Nov 23 12:16:43 2009 From: fasttrs at mindspring.com (Mike Munson) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:16:43 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife/Lincoln Locker Message-ID: <15575114.1259003803742.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> On my TR6 I have been Using Lincoln Lockers but now that I am making more horsepower I am breaking the short diff hub right at the keyway. I have broken two in the last two races. I guess it may be better to have some kind if limited slip now but they cost way more than the LL. Mike -----Original Message----- >From: "rek46 at aol.com" >Sent: Nov 23, 2009 12:44 PM >To: William G Rosenbach , triosan at gmail.com >Cc: fot at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife > >I can't believe you don't justin welded diffs >-----Original Message----- >Date: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:36:47 pm >To: triosan at gmail.com >Cc: fot at autox.team.net >From: "William G Rosenbach" >Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife > >That really is sad. There was a typo disclaimer, though. Makes you wonder > >about all the other cool stuff listed. > >Sorry for the wild goose chase, > >Bill > >____________________________________________________________ > >Health Insurance Deals > >Get free online quotes on self employed health insurance - Save 30%! > >http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=XBnQuzGnyNtpgkgB2fOZHQAAJ1CU0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAADi4QD4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABJQVgAAAAA= >You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com > > > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > > >Fot at autox.team.net > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > > > >You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as fasttrs at mindspring.com > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > >Fot at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > >You are subscribed as fasttrs at mindspring.com From billb at bnj.com Mon Nov 23 12:41:24 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:41:24 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Quaife dog gears In-Reply-To: <5882AD31-F428-4817-BDBE-D1F344E23718@earthlink.net> References: <9763EFF1-8F8A-4A9C-865C-8FC85446F2CF@earthlink.net> <8cbd782d0911231018h4939f4f2h7e83ffd99b45af22@mail.gmail.com> <0330F47F-60D3-4211-93C9-4F076BDB5A92@earthlink.net> <6C084C4A-EF51-43C9-A304-18CB40D1A034@bnj.com> <5882AD31-F428-4817-BDBE-D1F344E23718@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <893ED3A0-C1E2-417E-841E-8E8007338096@bnj.com> Nope, it wen't boom at about 130 mph and got dragged on the pavement. Not much opportunity for forensics. I gave the trailer to my Daughter. I'm probably going to be selling Nero sooner or later though. But it won't be all that cheap. On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:08 AM, Greg Lunker Hilyer wrote: > Hi Bill, > Do you know what failed in that box. Who's internals? Any opinion on Quaife's quality? > Also, do you still have that trailer? Want to off it? > Greg > On Nov 23, 2009, at 12:03 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: > >> The dog boxes are great, but they are not bulletproof, I dropped one right at turn 1 at Pacific Raceways--peyote wound up with it's front end in the air plowing the infield with what was left of the gearbox. And don't forget that you need a good TR6 gearcase to install the set into, and installing it isn't trivial, though nothing as ugly as building a good stocker CR box. >> >> On Nov 23, 2009, at 10:28 AM, Greg Lunker Hilyer wrote: >> >>> Yeah... It does seem to be a pay now or pay later deal. I'm already good money down the drain with the Dolo/6 set I broke in Portland [still haven't investigated the damage]. I actually might step up if we could get the 5+ price. >>> Greg >>> On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Chuck Arnold wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks for the additional research. Pretty pricey, but Tony G says it >>>> is the only way to go to assure your box will last. Given that he >>>> will do a rebuild and install the Dolomite close ratio set for about >>>> $2000it will only take the one he has done for me blowing up beyond >>>> repair to justify the Quaife cost [course I already have sunk the 2K]. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Greg Lunker wrote: >>>>> Here's the skinny on Quaife/TR. AutoTech is no longer a Quaife distributor. >>>>> They are selling off in-stock inventory. No trans parts available but they >>>>> do have a great deal on a few LSD's at $902. They referred me to Motorvicity >>>>> in Michigan. Dog kits are available with either a 2.013 or 2.223 1st and >>>>> either a TR6 or Dolomite main shaft. Price was quoted at $2658 but would go >>>>> down to $2127 on a order of 5. Might be a additional discount available for >>>>> 10+. >>>>> Still too rich for me but it sure would be nice. Might actually be cheaper >>>>> in the long run given my consumption rate of gearboxes but probably not in >>>>> my immediate future. >>>>> >>>>> Greg "Lunker" Hilyer >>>>> TR4 #314 >>>>> Albuquerque NM >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> >>>>> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Fot at autox.team.net >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>>>> >>>>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Chuck Arnold >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>> >>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >>> >>> >>> You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com From RKramer at rdoequipment.com Mon Nov 23 12:58:06 2009 From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:58:06 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Quaife dog gears In-Reply-To: <6C084C4A-EF51-43C9-A304-18CB40D1A034@bnj.com> References: <9763EFF1-8F8A-4A9C-865C-8FC85446F2CF@earthlink.net> <8cbd782d0911231018h4939f4f2h7e83ffd99b45af22@mail.gmail.com> <0330F47F-60D3-4211-93C9-4F076BDB5A92@earthlink.net> <6C084C4A-EF51-43C9-A304-18CB40D1A034@bnj.com> Message-ID: Moss Europe is selling the CR gear sets TT2210 again and the loose gears for Explodo-Pop transmissions like Lunkers. At 390 pounds they cost about $650 a set before shipping. Last time I bought one it was around $550 but methinks it is worth the money. As for installation it's the same deal, you need a good TR6 gearbox to for all but the 3rd and 4th gears with a minor case modification. If you can rebuild a TR tranny, you can build the Dolomite Close Ratio version Bob Kramer Sales Manager RDO Equipment Company 16415 N. IH 35 Pflugerville, TX 78660 512-272-4141 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Babcock Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:03 PM To: Greg "Lunker" Hilyer Cc: Friends Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife dog gears The dog boxes are great, but they are not bulletproof, I dropped one right at turn 1 at Pacific Raceways--peyote wound up with it's front end in the air plowing the infield with what was left of the gearbox. And don't forget that you need a good TR6 gearcase to install the set into, and installing it isn't trivial, though nothing as ugly as building a good stocker CR box. On Nov 23, 2009, at 10:28 AM, Greg Lunker Hilyer wrote: > Yeah... It does seem to be a pay now or pay later deal. I'm already good money down the drain with the Dolo/6 set I broke in Portland [still haven't investigated the damage]. I actually might step up if we could get the 5+ price. > Greg > On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Chuck Arnold wrote: > >> Thanks for the additional research. Pretty pricey, but Tony G says it >> is the only way to go to assure your box will last. Given that he >> will do a rebuild and install the Dolomite close ratio set for about >> $2000it will only take the one he has done for me blowing up beyond >> repair to justify the Quaife cost [course I already have sunk the 2K]. >> >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Greg Lunker wrote: >>> Here's the skinny on Quaife/TR. AutoTech is no longer a Quaife distributor. >>> They are selling off in-stock inventory. No trans parts available but they >>> do have a great deal on a few LSD's at $902. They referred me to Motorvicity >>> in Michigan. Dog kits are available with either a 2.013 or 2.223 1st and >>> either a TR6 or Dolomite main shaft. Price was quoted at $2658 but would go >>> down to $2127 on a order of 5. Might be a additional discount available for >>> 10+. >>> Still too rich for me but it sure would be nice. Might actually be cheaper >>> in the long run given my consumption rate of gearboxes but probably not in >>> my immediate future. >>> >>> Greg "Lunker" Hilyer >>> TR4 #314 >>> Albuquerque NM >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>> >>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >>> >>> >>> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Chuck Arnold > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com You are subscribed as rkramer at rdoequipment.com http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as rkramer at rdoequipment.com From jeff_durant at comcast.net Mon Nov 23 13:13:57 2009 From: jeff_durant at comcast.net (jeff_durant at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:13:57 +0000 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife/Lincoln Locker In-Reply-To: <15575114.1259003803742.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <15575114.1259003803742.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1590244058-1259007200-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-764750679-@bda037.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Mike, Not sure what a Lincoln Locker is but I had the same problem on my TR6 running a Detroit Locker in the past. I lap the tapered shaft to the mating flange with fine Clover lapping paste, clean well and assemble. No issues since. Just finished painting my TR6 and hope to be ready for the spring. I was going to snag a Quaife gearset today until seeing the previous mails. Guess I'll stick to my still strong 1.88 1st Kastner gear sets (thanks Kas). Now if I can just keep the wife from buying an 7k French stove I can finish 2x engines. Jeff Durant '69 TR6 #12 '68 TR250 Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Mike Munson Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:16:43 -0600 (GMT-06:00) To: rek46 at aol.com; William G Rosenbach; Cc: Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife/Lincoln Locker On my TR6 I have been Using Lincoln Lockers but now that I am making more horsepower I am breaking the short diff hub right at the keyway. I have broken two in the last two races. I guess it may be better to have some kind if limited slip now but they cost way more than the LL. Mike -----Original Message----- >From: "rek46 at aol.com" >Sent: Nov 23, 2009 12:44 PM >To: William G Rosenbach , triosan at gmail.com >Cc: fot at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife > >I can't believe you don't justin welded diffs >-----Original Message----- >Date: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:36:47 pm >To: triosan at gmail.com >Cc: fot at autox.team.net >From: "William G Rosenbach" >Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife > >That really is sad. There was a typo disclaimer, though. Makes you wonder > >about all the other cool stuff listed. > >Sorry for the wild goose chase, > >Bill > >____________________________________________________________ > >Health Insurance Deals > >Get free online quotes on self employed health insurance - Save 30%! > >http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=XBnQuzGnyNtpgkgB2fOZHQAAJ1CU0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAADi4QD4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABJQVgAAAAA= >You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com > > > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > > >Fot at autox.team.net > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > > > >You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as fasttrs at mindspring.com > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > >Fot at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > >You are subscribed as fasttrs at mindspring.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as jeff_durant at comcast.net http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as jeff_durant at comcast.net From billb at bnj.com Mon Nov 23 14:23:34 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:23:34 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife/Lincoln Locker In-Reply-To: <15575114.1259003803742.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <15575114.1259003803742.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Stuff that breaks is more expensive than stuff that doesn't. On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Mike Munson wrote: > On my TR6 I have been Using Lincoln Lockers but now that I am making more horsepower I am breaking the short diff hub right at the keyway. I have broken two in the last two races. I guess it may be better to have some kind if limited slip now but they cost way more than the LL. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- >> From: "rek46 at aol.com" >> Sent: Nov 23, 2009 12:44 PM >> To: William G Rosenbach , triosan at gmail.com >> Cc: fot at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife >> >> I can't believe you don't justin welded diffs >> -----Original Message----- >> Date: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:36:47 pm >> To: triosan at gmail.com >> Cc: fot at autox.team.net >> From: "William G Rosenbach" >> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife >> >> That really is sad. There was a typo disclaimer, though. Makes you wonder >> >> about all the other cool stuff listed. >> >> Sorry for the wild goose chase, >> >> Bill >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> >> Health Insurance Deals >> >> Get free online quotes on self employed health insurance - Save 30%! >> >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=XBnQuzGnyNtpgkgB2fOZHQAAJ1CU0Hc Z7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAADi4QD4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABJQVgAAAAA= >> You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com >> >> >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> >> >> >> >> >> You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as fasttrs at mindspring.com >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> >> >> You are subscribed as fasttrs at mindspring.com > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com From bownes at seiri.com Mon Nov 23 14:59:21 2009 From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:59:21 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife/Lincoln Locker In-Reply-To: References: <15575114.1259003803742.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Amen to that Brother Babcock! The failure mode is clearly indicative of a stress riser. As someone else mentioned, a little judicious grinding and lapping may help make the problem go away. On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: > Stuff that breaks is more expensive than stuff that doesn't. > On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Mike Munson wrote: > > > On my TR6 I have been Using Lincoln Lockers but now that I am making more > horsepower I am breaking the short diff hub right at the keyway. I have > broken > two in the last two races. I guess it may be better to have some kind if > limited slip now but they cost way more than the LL. > > > > Mike > > > > -----Original Message----- > >> From: "rek46 at aol.com" > >> Sent: Nov 23, 2009 12:44 PM > >> To: William G Rosenbach , triosan at gmail.com > >> Cc: fot at autox.team.net > >> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife > >> > >> I can't believe you don't justin welded diffs > >> -----Original Message----- > >> Date: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:36:47 pm > >> To: triosan at gmail.com > >> Cc: fot at autox.team.net > >> From: "William G Rosenbach" > >> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife > >> > >> That really is sad. There was a typo disclaimer, though. Makes you > wonder > >> > >> about all the other cool stuff listed. > >> > >> Sorry for the wild goose chase, > >> > >> Bill > >> > >> ____________________________________________________________ > >> > >> Health Insurance Deals > >> > >> Get free online quotes on self employed health insurance - Save 30%! > >> > >> > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=XBnQuzGnyNtpgkgB2fOZHQAAJ1CU0Hc > Z7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAADi4QD4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABJQVgAAAAA= > >> You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com > >> > >> > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >> > >> > >> > >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> > >> You are subscribed as fasttrs at mindspring.com > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> > >> Fot at autox.team.net > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >> > >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > >> > >> > >> You are subscribed as fasttrs at mindspring.com > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > > > Fot at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bownes at web9.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as bownes at web9.com From Lunkercars at earthlink.net Mon Nov 23 15:18:29 2009 From: Lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg Lunker Hilyer) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:18:29 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Dog-box kits Message-ID: <252984B1-1A29-4ED6-A964-86134163326C@earthlink.net> Hello all, I've had quite a bit of interest so here's a bit more info. The deal available: For Quaife there is nothing available off the shelf. Minimum run is 10 at the price of $2127 ea. and 16 weeks from order date to shipping from the UK. They have no-cost options of TR6 or Dolomite main-shaft and a 2.013 or 2.223 1st. The others are 1.513 2nd, 1.205 3rd and of course 1.00 4th. Alternate ratios MIGHT be possible. Haven't discussed it but maybe we could get a O.D. shaft as well. Kit consists of: 4 speed dog engagement gearkit, Straight cut, close ratio gears, Needle roller bearings support free running gears, QUAIFE mainshaft included. I can get a guarantee of 16 weeks - if for some reason there is a delay, individuals could opt-out but the order would still go thru. 75% deposit may or may not be negotiable. Includes shipping to Michigan, shipping to your address at cost. Other countries can be drop-shipped from the UK. At first impression the price seemed beyond my cheapo budgeting. But if it gives a bit of longevity over our synchro boxes, it might be better and more cost effective in the long run - and superior. The only production-car dog-box I've driven is a Bugeye, but what a dreamy transmission - a guy could get used to that. Honestly it might be worth a second a lap [anywhere] just in lightning-fast shifts. Any opinions as the strength/reliability to be gained? Any ideas on a alternative manufacturer that might offer a superior product or price? All the dog-boxes I know of in Bugeyes use Tiliton clutches - is that really necessary? Seems to me more to the "Vintage Spirit" than anything using a non- OEM case and vastly superior. Anyone want to put this out to the TVR/Morgan lists? Greg "Lunker" Hilyer --- With broken transmissions stacked like cord- wood. And honest... I'm easy on transmissions in anything but a TR. TR4 #314 Albuquerque NM From tlizzard at msn.com Mon Nov 23 15:34:44 2009 From: tlizzard at msn.com (Terry Stetler) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:34:44 -0500 Subject: [Fot] All Hail Lucas, Prince of Darkness! In-Reply-To: <20091123.101347.2856.5.wgrosenbach@juno.com> References: <20091123.101347.2856.5.wgrosenbach@juno.com> Message-ID: Thanks, I needed some good humour today! Terry Stetler. ----- Original Message ----- From: William G Rosenbach To: FOT at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: [Fot] All Hail Lucas, Prince of Darkness! We've all been there. http://www.hummingbirds.net/lucas/index.html ____________________________________________________________ Free College Information Connect to the online college that best fits your needs. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=QzS8GpdslJrIxnV5GJIx4gAAJ1CU0 HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAJ9cGD4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAJWaQAAAAA= _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as tlizzard at msn.com http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as tlizzard at msn.com From jsiam1 at earthlink.net Mon Nov 23 16:21:17 2009 From: jsiam1 at earthlink.net (Joseph Siam) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:21:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Dog-box kits Message-ID: <27675449.1259018477775.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi All I build a Dog Box for the Spitfires. It is a lot of work to put together and is worth at least a few seconds a lap on most of our tracks At $2127 thats a good price. Does it use stock shift forks bearings and spacers? Joe -----Original Message----- >From: Greg Lunker Hilyer >Sent: Nov 23, 2009 5:18 PM >To: Friends Triumph' Triumph >Subject: [Fot] Dog-box kits > >Hello all, >I've had quite a bit of interest so here's a bit more info. >The deal available: >For Quaife there is nothing available off the shelf. Minimum run is >10 at the price of $2127 ea. and 16 weeks from order date to shipping >from the UK. They have no-cost options of TR6 or Dolomite main-shaft >and a 2.013 or 2.223 1st. The others are 1.513 2nd, 1.205 3rd and of >course 1.00 4th. Alternate ratios MIGHT be possible. Haven't >discussed it but maybe we could get a O.D. shaft as well. >Kit consists of: >4 speed dog engagement gearkit, >Straight cut, close ratio gears, >Needle roller bearings support free running gears, >QUAIFE mainshaft included. > >I can get a guarantee of 16 weeks - if for some reason there is a >delay, individuals could opt-out but the order would still go thru. >75% deposit may or may not be negotiable. Includes shipping to >Michigan, shipping to your address at cost. Other countries can be >drop-shipped from the UK. >At first impression the price seemed beyond my cheapo budgeting. But >if it gives a bit of longevity over our synchro boxes, it might be >better and more cost effective in the long run - and superior. The >only production-car dog-box I've driven is a Bugeye, but what a >dreamy transmission - a guy could get used to that. Honestly it >might be worth a second a lap [anywhere] just in lightning-fast shifts. >Any opinions as the strength/reliability to be gained? >Any ideas on a alternative manufacturer that might offer a superior >product or price? >All the dog-boxes I know of in Bugeyes use Tiliton clutches - is that >really necessary? >Seems to me more to the "Vintage Spirit" than anything using a non- >OEM case and vastly superior. >Anyone want to put this out to the TVR/Morgan lists? > >Greg "Lunker" Hilyer --- With broken transmissions stacked like cord- >wood. And honest... I'm easy on transmissions in anything but a TR. >TR4 #314 >Albuquerque NM >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as jsiam1 at earthlink.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > >Fot at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > >You are subscribed as jsiam1 at earthlink.net Chequered Flag Racing .net Joseph P. Siam 9833 Deering Ave unit I Chatsworth Ca 91311 818 350 6222 From Gt6steve at aol.com Mon Nov 23 16:22:09 2009 From: Gt6steve at aol.com (Gt6steve at aol.com) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:22:09 EST Subject: [Fot] Quaife dogbox gearsets Message-ID: If we can get the Quaife TR6 straighcut dog gearsets for $2200 I'm in for one! From horizonracing at msn.com Mon Nov 23 16:53:33 2009 From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:53:33 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Dog-box kits In-Reply-To: <252984B1-1A29-4ED6-A964-86134163326C@earthlink.net> References: <252984B1-1A29-4ED6-A964-86134163326C@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Also to note: the Quaife gears and hubs all come with Part #'s etched into them. If you need to change ratio's, wear out a dog hub etc, Ya can call quaife with said part # and they send you the Part :D I have a couple off Dog boxes in service that are not Quaife. I think they are out of Germany?? No spare parts available...you must buy a whole kit. All the Dog boxes I have being used get Crack checked every "off" season and the brgs/other bits n pieces get replaced. Average life span is 4-5 seasons. I've got 1 thats going in to it 7th season on the same set of gears and cases. Happy holidays Tony > To: fot at autox.team.net > From: Lunkercars at earthlink.net > Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:18:29 -0700 > Subject: [Fot] Dog-box kits > > Hello all, > I've had quite a bit of interest so here's a bit more info. > The deal available: > For Quaife there is nothing available off the shelf. Minimum run is > 10 at the price of $2127 ea. and 16 weeks from order date to shipping > from the UK. They have no-cost options of TR6 or Dolomite main-shaft > and a 2.013 or 2.223 1st. The others are 1.513 2nd, 1.205 3rd and of > course 1.00 4th. Alternate ratios MIGHT be possible. Haven't > discussed it but maybe we could get a O.D. shaft as well. > Kit consists of: > 4 speed dog engagement gearkit, > Straight cut, close ratio gears, > Needle roller bearings support free running gears, > QUAIFE mainshaft included. > > I can get a guarantee of 16 weeks - if for some reason there is a > delay, individuals could opt-out but the order would still go thru. > 75% deposit may or may not be negotiable. Includes shipping to > Michigan, shipping to your address at cost. Other countries can be > drop-shipped from the UK. > At first impression the price seemed beyond my cheapo budgeting. But > if it gives a bit of longevity over our synchro boxes, it might be > better and more cost effective in the long run - and superior. The > only production-car dog-box I've driven is a Bugeye, but what a > dreamy transmission - a guy could get used to that. Honestly it > might be worth a second a lap [anywhere] just in lightning-fast shifts. > Any opinions as the strength/reliability to be gained? > Any ideas on a alternative manufacturer that might offer a superior > product or price? > All the dog-boxes I know of in Bugeyes use Tiliton clutches - is that > really necessary? > Seems to me more to the "Vintage Spirit" than anything using a non- > OEM case and vastly superior. > Anyone want to put this out to the TVR/Morgan lists? > > Greg "Lunker" Hilyer --- With broken transmissions stacked like cord- > wood. And honest... I'm easy on transmissions in anything but a TR. > TR4 #314 > Albuquerque NM > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as horizonracing at msn.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as horizonracing at msn.com From chasgee at aol.com Mon Nov 23 17:27:17 2009 From: chasgee at aol.com (chasgee at aol.com) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:27:17 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Dog-box kits In-Reply-To: <27675449.1259018477775.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <27675449.1259018477775.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <8CC3AB402E96638-156C-9023@webmail-d002.sysops.aol.com> Keep in mind that the ratios are the same as the Dolomite close ratio set (except for first) so the lap times won't improve that much. There may be some benefit to the "clutchless" shifting, but other things in the drivetrain may start to break. Too bad they don't have off the shelf ratios like Hewland or Webster. If they did, then you would see a big benefit. Still, that's a good price for the amount of work required to do it yourself. Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Siam To: Greg Lunker Hilyer ; Friends Triumph'Triumph Sent: Mon, Nov 23, 2009 3:21 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Dog-box kits Hi All I build a Dog Box for the Spitfires. It is a lot of work to put together nd is worth at least a few seconds a lap on most of our tracks At $2127 thats good price. Does it use stock shift forks bearings and spacers? Joe -----Original Message----- From: Greg Lunker Hilyer Sent: Nov 23, 2009 5:18 PM To: Friends Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Dog-box kits Hello all, I've had quite a bit of interest so here's a bit more info. The deal available: For Quaife there is nothing available off the shelf. Minimum run is 10 at the price of $2127 ea. and 16 weeks from order date to shipping from the UK. They have no-cost options of TR6 or Dolomite main-shaft and a 2.013 or 2.223 1st. The others are 1.513 2nd, 1.205 3rd and of course 1.00 4th. Alternate ratios MIGHT be possible. Haven't discussed it but maybe we could get a O.D. shaft as well. Kit consists of: 4 speed dog engagement gearkit, Straight cut, close ratio gears, Needle roller bearings support free running gears, QUAIFE mainshaft included. I can get a guarantee of 16 weeks - if for some reason there is a delay, individuals could opt-out but the order would still go thru. 75% deposit may or may not be negotiable. Includes shipping to Michigan, shipping to your address at cost. Other countries can be drop-shipped from the UK. At first impression the price seemed beyond my cheapo budgeting. But if it gives a bit of longevity over our synchro boxes, it might be better and more cost effective in the long run - and superior. The only production-car dog-box I've driven is a Bugeye, but what a dreamy transmission - a guy could get used to that. Honestly it might be worth a second a lap [anywhere] just in lightning-fast shifts. Any opinions as the strength/reliability to be gained? Any ideas on a alternative manufacturer that might offer a superior product or price? All the dog-boxes I know of in Bugeyes use Tiliton clutches - is that really necessary? Seems to me more to the "Vintage Spirit" than anything using a non- OEM case and vastly superior. Anyone want to put this out to the TVR/Morgan lists? Greg "Lunker" Hilyer --- With broken transmissions stacked like cord- wood. And honest... I'm easy on transmissions in anything but a TR. TR4 #314 Albuquerque NM You are subscribed as jsiam1 at earthlink.net http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as jsiam1 at earthlink.net hequered Flag Racing .net oseph P. Siam 833 Deering Ave unit I hatsworth Ca 91311 18 350 6222 You are subscribed as chasgee at aol.com http://www.fot-racing.com ot at autox.team.net ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. ou are subscribed as chasgee at aol.com From timmurph at fastbytes.com Mon Nov 23 17:39:34 2009 From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:39:34 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Need screw in style bushing for Lucas PI injector/nozzle Message-ID: <000c01ca6c9e$990a6bb0$cb1f4310$@com> If anyone has a spare screw in style "nylon" bushing that holds the injector/nozzle into the intake manifold on the Triumph Lucas PI, please contact me. I sent my nozzles to Kisler to have them tested and reconditioned and one of the 40 year old screw in style bushings broke. I'm told they are made of nylon but it looks like it could be delrin. As I recall, delrin is more heat resistant than nylon and is resistant to gasoline also. Or if you know of a supplier in the U.S. that would be appreciated. I think I can get the bushings in England and could make one if it came to that. Thanks. Tim From Lunkercars at earthlink.net Mon Nov 23 17:40:11 2009 From: Lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg "Lunker" Hilyer) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:40:11 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Dog-box kits Message-ID: <06E07AFD-8A88-4E96-9956-E706C4F270A4@earthlink.net> I tend to agree. Seems to me that a smoother shifting box would have better longevity. No synchros or OEM top hat to break seems like a plus from the get- go. Replaceable parts help. And a superior shifting box. What's the down-side I'm missing? I understand that dog gears would not have prevented my breakage in Portland but that was only one fluke among my numerous transmission failures. Curious as to any opinion Kas may have. Greg "Lunker" Hilyer TR4 #314 Albuquerque NM Hey all I can tell you from a Spitfire guy is at 2200.00 you better buy IT!!!!!!!!! Same deal for a Spitfire is almost 5000.00 by the time it is installed and ready to run!!! Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, INC. 411 Allied Drive Nashville, TN 37211 866-455-7788 Phone 615-834-9923 Fax www.dieselperformanceparts.com -----Original Message From Lunkercars at earthlink.net Mon Nov 23 20:02:56 2009 From: Lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg "Lunker" Hilyer) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:02:56 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Trumpeting a Triumph triumph Message-ID: Took a bit of timing/scoring research but it's official - A certain purple TR4 now holds the Vintage Production lap record [1:35.33] at Sandia Motorsports Park, Albuquerque NM http://www.sandiamotorsports.com/ Previous record was a Lotus Elan at 1:35.85. On a 14 turn, 1.6 mile track with [for me] 10 shifts per lap, the dog- box sounds pretty inviting. Greg "Lunker" Hilyer TR4 #314 Albuquerque NM From mark at bradakis.com Mon Nov 23 21:15:31 2009 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:15:31 -0700 Subject: [Fot] List notes Message-ID: <4B0B5DE3.5050204@bradakis.com> The lists at Team.Net have a size limit placed on messages sent to them. Here's a perfect example of why this is so. And of course I am quite aware of the irony here. Bob Dylan once sang "fearing not I'd become my enemy in the instant that I preach" so I'll press on. In the traffic about close ratio gear sets, one message *could* have been this, enclosed in the first set of '====' ==== > Unfortunately that part number was for a differential, not a gear set. > They have no TR gear sets. Bummer. Sure looked like a good deal. too good. ==== Short, sweet, to the point, just the one line response and the line that prompted the response right at the top, making it easy to follow. What we got, however, was not so simple. Page WAY down to the next set of '====' for my comments: ==== Bummer. Sure looked like a good deal. too good. On Nov 23, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Chuck Arnold wrote: > Unfortunately that part number was for a differential, not a gear set. > They have no TR gear sets. > > On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: >> Here's the ratios. The 2.013 looks good to me. >> http://www.autotech.com/quaife/gears/triumph.htm >> On Nov 22, 2009, at 12:22 PM, Tony and Annie Garmey wrote: >> >> Hey Bill, >> Jezz what a price. Scam ?? >> Can you please have them send 2 sets to me. I'll give you a credit on Peytoe >> for cost of one set. >> Thank you. >> Tony >> 21703 234th ave SE >> Maple valley wa 98038 >> >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife >>> From: billb at bnj.com >>> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:47:19 -0800 >>> CC: horizonracing at msn.com >>> To: triosan at gmail.com >>> >>> Wow, nine hundred bucks is about $500 less than I paid a year or so ago. >>> Tony, I'm going to get one shipped to you. What address should I use. Does >>> it make more sense for you to order it? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Nov 22, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Chuck Arnold wrote: >>> >>>> I found this link: >>>> http://www.autotech.com/quaife/news.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: >>>>> Couldn't find it on their website. I'm interested. >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 21, 2009, at 8:19 PM, William G Rosenbach wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Greetings all, >>>>>> Autotech.com in California stocks Quaife gear sets and has the TR-6, >>>>>> and >>>>>> it's on SALE!. >>>>>> I cut and pasted, so I hope it posts correctly, >>>>>> Bill >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 4 SPEED DOG ENGAGEMENT GEARKIT >>>>>> >>>>>> Straight cut, close ratios gears >>>>>> Needle roller bearings support free running gears >>>>>> Includes new Quaife mainshaft >>>>>> Choice of 1st gear ratios >>>>>> GEAR RATIOS >>>>>> 1st2nd3rd4th >>>>>> 2.013 >>>>>> 2.223 1.5131.2051.000 >>>>>> >>>>>> Triumph TR6 4 speed dog engagementcall >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Prices and specifications subject to change without notice. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is your chance to get Quaife differentials and gearkits at >>>>>> never-to-be-seen-again prices. 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How many just wasted disk space, filled up quotas on recipients' mailboxes, caused unneeded work by the list archiver,used up bandwidth sending out bits we've already seen several times and served no purpose whatsoever? What, exactly, are the benefits of not editing replies? mjb. From tr3driver at ca.rr.com Mon Nov 23 22:11:51 2009 From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:11:51 -0800 Subject: [Fot] List notes In-Reply-To: <4B0B5DE3.5050204@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <20091124051152124.NPPP2218@cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com> > What, exactly, are the benefits of not editing replies? Or in other words, was this trip really necessary? :^) Randall From Group44TR7 at aol.com Tue Nov 24 11:34:28 2009 From: Group44TR7 at aol.com (Group44TR7 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:34:28 EST Subject: [Fot] Second Request - Please Reconnect Bobby Cee Message-ID: Mark Bobby is still not receiving FOT emails - _Bobbyceeracer at aol.com_ (mailto:Bobbyceeracer at aol.com) I am continuing to receive emails on AOL on a regular basis without any interruptions. Thank you for your efforts. Cary From pcdelux at att.net Tue Nov 24 12:31:49 2009 From: pcdelux at att.net (Bill DeWar) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:31:49 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Transmissions and such Message-ID: <007401ca6d3c$c654ec00$4b524c0c@userbhfzubua17> Listers, For those not aware the TR6 case to look for is the last few model years run of them. They have thicker front flanges and better side ribs. Easiest way to identify is the top cover had an extra steel support to prevent top cover breaking at rear bolts. Said transmission also had improved steel top-hat bush setup. What top-hat are those in the know using for the stock gear-sets these days? Kas? any insight? Bill Dewar NJTA From Group44TR7 at aol.com Tue Nov 24 13:19:24 2009 From: Group44TR7 at aol.com (Group44TR7 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:19:24 EST Subject: [Fot] Fwd: F.O.T Message-ID: Return-path: From: Bobbyceeracer at aol.com Full-name: Bobbyceeracer Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:30:29 EST Subject: Re: F.O.T To: Group44TR7 at aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5380 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Thanks Buddy, I would love to get involved with Triumphs again. Bobby From lang at isis.mit.edu Tue Nov 24 15:59:31 2009 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:59:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Transmissions and such In-Reply-To: <007401ca6d3c$c654ec00$4b524c0c@userbhfzubua17> References: <007401ca6d3c$c654ec00$4b524c0c@userbhfzubua17> Message-ID: [stuff deleted] > What top-hat are those in the know using for the stock gear-sets these days? I'm trying to use just steel bushings and you MUST make sure that all the end-float settings are perfect. In some cases that means the case is toast because the end float for the lay-shaft is knackered. I suppose you could use shims on the laygears to get the end-float in spec, but that's for the pros... I have no idea how to source a shim that might work on the layshaft. For the mainshaft bushings, I get steel bushings from either John Esposito (www.quantumechanics.com) or Moss (they have a "kit" that replaces the bronze with steel). Either "solution" is not cheap, the bushings alone are $150 and then you usually have to replace "stuff" that's been beaten or broken over time. Alternate gearboxes look better every day. :-) Bob "allIneedisaJericho" Lang --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent 2009 NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From tr3driver at ca.rr.com Tue Nov 24 17:54:15 2009 From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:54:15 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Transmissions and such In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091125005415610.TDOW22957@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> > In some cases that means the > case is toast > because the end float for the lay-shaft is knackered. I probably shouldn't say this ... but have you guys considered using a Stag case & countershaft? The casting is the same as late TR6, but is machined to accept roller thrust bearings instead of plain washers. Randall From mark at bradakis.com Tue Nov 24 17:55:13 2009 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:55:13 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: F.O.T In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B0C8071.4060904@bradakis.com> I hate to sound too much like an old grouch after my last diatribe about editing replies. I've been busy trying to catch up on Team.Net admin mail. There's only about 19,000 left for the 5 - 6 dozen lists I mismanage. Most of those will get filtered out and cleaned up quickly as spam. A large percentage of the ones that will remain basically amount to work I really shouldn't have to do. Each and every message to each and every list, regular or digest, has a link to the web page for the list. On this web page people can remove their old address and subscribe a new one, or set a 'vacation' hold or switch from regular to digest, see what lists are available, whatever. I try to provide the tools to make it as easy as possible for folks to reap the benefits of Team.Net in various ways. I try to be polite and helpful as best I can, but sometimes I do wonder why I do what I do. For those of you who celebrate the occasion, have a nice Thanksgiving. mjb. From mark at bradakis.com Tue Nov 24 18:53:08 2009 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:53:08 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: F.O.T In-Reply-To: <4B0C8071.4060904@bradakis.com> References: <4B0C8071.4060904@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <4B0C8E04.9030007@bradakis.com> Just had a realization - I got a flu shot this morning. I must be extra cranky today because I think I am getting a bit sick from it. Hopefully it will not be an issue for fixing dinner thursday. I'll quit whining now, and return to my prestigious, high-paying position as chief toilet scrubber for Team.Net. mjb. From jmwagner at greenheart.com Tue Nov 24 18:53:50 2009 From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:53:50 -0800 Subject: [Fot] EBAY: old RACING Photo *Helmet Man in TRIUMPH TR2 RACE CAR* Message-ID: <4B0C8E2E.7010501@greenheart.com> There's an anonymous photo of a TR2 on ebay... maybe someone can identify it, etc. --Justin http://i.ebayimg.com/15/!Bf0RrnQBWk~$(KGrHqEH-DsEsKb8vgI)BLCvnmY2hQ~~_3.JPG old RACING Photo *Helmet Man in TRIUMPH TR2 RACE CAR* http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/old-RACING-Photo-Helmet-Man-in-TRIUMPH-TR2-RACE-CAR_W0QQitemZ140362309203QQcmdZViewItemQQptZArt_Photo_Images?hash=item20ae3ede53 From Herald948 at aol.com Tue Nov 24 20:14:31 2009 From: Herald948 at aol.com (Herald948 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:14:31 EST Subject: [Fot] Fwd: F.O.T Message-ID: In a message dated 11/24/2009 8:27:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mark at bradakis.com writes: I try to provide the tools to make it as easy as possible for folks to reap the benefits of Team.Net in various ways. I try to be polite and helpful as best I can, but sometimes I do wonder why I do what I do. For those of you who celebrate the occasion, have a nice Thanksgiving. ==AM== Likewise to you, Mark! Funny thing about e-mail lists and their subscribers.... One might think that librarians and others in related educational fields might have clues about how some of this technology works. WRONG-O, gigabyte breath! I oversee a good three dozen or so Listserv e-mail lists as part of my job at the NYS Library, and it never ceases to amaze me how people on those lists can ignore both generic and customized "welcome" messages sent them, not to mention pretty clear details on how to handle basics of leaving the list or changing subscription options that are included in footers attached to each message. The difference between you and me is mostly in that the politically and financially near-bankrupt State of New York tosses me some money every couple of weeks for putting up with all that. Oh, in fairness, I will say that there are many, many folk who get caught when their library or other employer goes and screws up their e-mail client and/or changes userids without warning and often without a grace period. I'm happy to help them out, and most of them are grateful. Hang in there; even we PITA AOL subscribers (especially we AOL subscribers) truly appreciate all your efforts! --Andy Mace *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Register: _http://www.vtr.org_ (http://www.vtr.org/) Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database: _http://triumph-herald.us_ (http://triumph-herald.us/) From tony at tonydrews.com Tue Nov 24 20:52:59 2009 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:52:59 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: F.O.T In-Reply-To: <4B0C8071.4060904@bradakis.com> References: <4B0C8071.4060904@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <20091125035331.C718F187684@autox.team.net> I set up a little Nascar league and use Google Groups as my e-mail mechanism. I think my top number of folks in my league has been 20. Every single e-mail sent through that list includes a big ol' blurb about where to go to manage your settings and an "unsubscribe" link. I had someone get pissy about my delay in sending out results and leave the league. At the beginning of the next year he was very vocal about "please remove me from the list". I took care of it manually, but he could have done it himself for half of the effort of sending me and the entire list the nastygram. And this is for a closed friend-referral group. I can't imagine handling the lists that you deal with. Cheers, Tony Drews At 06:55 PM 11/24/2009, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > > >I try to provide the tools to make it as easy as possible for folks to >reap the benefits of Team.Net in various ways. I try to be polite >and helpful as best I can, but sometimes I do wonder why I do what >I do. > >For those of you who celebrate the occasion, have a nice Thanksgiving. > >mjb. From jaboruch at netzero.net Tue Nov 24 21:02:16 2009 From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:02:16 GMT Subject: [Fot] TR4 Fiberglass Message-ID: <20091124.230216.8160.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> FOTers, I recently bought a TR4 that has not raced since the late 70's or early 80's. I will eventually get it back on the track with SCCA, but it will take some time. Do any of you have any fiberglass bits that you would be interested in selling? There are probably at least a few vintage cars out there that were SCCA cars with flared glass fenders that were converted back to steel, leaving the glass collecting dust. Joe(B) ____________________________________________________________ Regis University MBA Earn your MBA from Regis University, 100% online. Free info packs! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/c?cp=naTUzpIXLd03YEEXQoA9jwAAJz6U 0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAPHCbj4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAiHkAAAAAA= From billb at bnj.com Tue Nov 24 21:33:28 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:33:28 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: F.O.T In-Reply-To: <20091125035331.C718F187684@autox.team.net> References: <4B0C8071.4060904@bradakis.com> <20091125035331.C718F187684@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <724A9ACC-5DB5-43BE-8222-1D1D34667FFE@bnj.com> You should have told him to get hosed. I had some clown causing problems on my Ke Nalu site, bitching about my lack of attention. This for a site that carries no advertising, that I do for fun. I blocked him from the site, then he started sending me email bitching at me. So I added his email address to my spam filter. So then he set up some gmail addresses and bitched at me. So I subscribed him to about 500 email newsletters. I felt he just had too much time on his hands. On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:52 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > I set up a little Nascar league and use Google Groups as my e-mail mechanism. I think my top number of folks in my league has been 20. Every single e-mail sent through that list includes a big ol' blurb about where to go to manage your settings and an "unsubscribe" link. I had someone get pissy about my delay in sending out results and leave the league. At the beginning of the next year he was very vocal about "please remove me from the list". I took care of it manually, but he could have done it himself for half of the effort of sending me and the entire list the nastygram. And this is for a closed friend-referral group. > > I can't imagine handling the lists that you deal with. > > Cheers, Tony Drews > > At 06:55 PM 11/24/2009, Mark J Bradakis wrote: >> >> >> I try to provide the tools to make it as easy as possible for folks to >> reap the benefits of Team.Net in various ways. I try to be polite >> and helpful as best I can, but sometimes I do wonder why I do what >> I do. >> >> For those of you who celebrate the occasion, have a nice Thanksgiving. >> >> mjb. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com From horizonracing at msn.com Wed Nov 25 12:53:11 2009 From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:53:11 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Message-ID: All, A Local machine shop has a 1300 spitfire Engine block(cleaned and deglazed) crank and pistons for sale..........Make an offer. Has be waiting for the Owner to return for over 10 years. Pacific Auto machine, Renton Wa. 98057. 425 226 0930 I'm only going what was told to me. I only saw the parts sitting on a shelf in a bag!! Tony From bkahler1 at gmail.com Wed Nov 25 15:51:36 2009 From: bkahler1 at gmail.com (Brad Kahler) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:51:36 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tony, I just got off the phone with Gary and in talking with him we determined that the engine is a 1300 large journal. The package includes the block, crank (turned .010 & .010) , pistons, rods, pan, cam and possibly a few other items. Thanks for posting! Brad On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Tony and Annie Garmey wrote: > All, > > A Local machine shop has a 1300 spitfire Engine block(cleaned and deglazed) > crank and pistons for sale..........Make an offer. Has be waiting for the > Owner to return for over 10 years. > > Pacific Auto machine, Renton Wa. 98057. 425 226 0930 > > > > I'm only going what was told to me. I only saw the parts sitting on a shelf in > a bag!! > > > > Tony > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkahler1 at gmail.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as bkahler1 at gmail.com From fasttrs at mindspring.com Wed Nov 25 15:57:03 2009 From: fasttrs at mindspring.com (Mike Munson) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:57:03 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife/Lincoln Locker Message-ID: <31197664.1259189823642.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Based on the female/male spend ratio as you quoted, I figure I've at least 10k coming for race car goodies. Hope she sees it that way! Off to the machine shop. >Thanks for the advice. >Jeff D. Good Luck with that, Jeff!! Mike From cak at dimebank.com Thu Nov 26 10:05:05 2009 From: cak at dimebank.com (Chris Kantarjiev) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:05:05 -0800 Subject: [Fot] need GT6+ 3.89 r&p Message-ID: <4B0EB541.7060304@dimebank.com> OK, it's time to get moving on this project again. I got the rear diff apart some weeks back and we found quite a bit of unusual damage on the R&P. Needs to be replaced - and with it, of course, the usual complement of bearings and seals and whatnot. And I guess I'll be taking the Quaife apart to clean, too, what fun. I'm not sure if I'm better off getting just a r&p or a complete but good diff to modify... So ... I have no idea where I might get a proper set or what it might cost. Help? Thanks, chris From cwnfot at gmail.com Fri Nov 27 06:25:06 2009 From: cwnfot at gmail.com (Clark W. Nicholls) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:25:06 -0500 Subject: [Fot] need GT6+ 3.89 r&p In-Reply-To: <4B0EB541.7060304@dimebank.com> References: <4B0EB541.7060304@dimebank.com> Message-ID: <006901ca6f65$09ba8840$1d2f98c0$@com> Is there a difference between a GT6+ 3.89 and a Spitfire 1500 3.89 ? Clark From cak at dimebank.com Fri Nov 27 08:48:27 2009 From: cak at dimebank.com (Chris Kantarjiev) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:48:27 -0800 Subject: [Fot] need GT6+ 3.89 r&p In-Reply-To: <006901ca6f65$09ba8840$1d2f98c0$@com> References: <4B0EB541.7060304@dimebank.com> <006901ca6f65$09ba8840$1d2f98c0$@com> Message-ID: <4B0FF4CB.3010505@dimebank.com> Clark W. Nicholls wrote: > Is there a difference between a GT6+ 3.89 and a Spitfire 1500 3.89 ? > Clark Yes, but the Spit box will fit the GT6 :-) There are some detail changes (spring mounting) and some component changes in the later rear axle, mostly for the better (as I recall, the stub axle shafts are bigger diameter). I'm open to the Spitfire 1500 diff, too, since that's what was in the car (and got chewed up). From 19to1tr6 at comcast.net Mon Nov 30 21:10:07 2009 From: 19to1tr6 at comcast.net (Rob) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:10:07 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Fiberglass/tr6 In-Reply-To: <20091124.230216.8160.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> References: <20091124.230216.8160.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: thank you for stating it so well Joe Does any one have the bits for a 6 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Boruch" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:02 PM Subject: [Fot] TR4 Fiberglass > FOTers, I recently bought a TR4 that has not raced since the late 70's or > early 80's. I will eventually get it back on the track with SCCA, but it > will > take some time. Do any of you have any fiberglass bits that you would be > interested in selling? There are probably at least a few vintage cars out > there that were SCCA cars with flared glass fenders that were converted > back > to steel, leaving the glass collecting dust. Joe(B) > > ____________________________________________________________ > Regis University MBA > Earn your MBA from Regis University, 100% online. Free info packs! > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/c?cp=naTUzpIXLd03YEEXQoA9jwAAJz6U > 0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAPHCbj4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAiHkAAAAAA= > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net From bownes at seiri.com Fri Nov 27 22:06:52 2009 From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:06:52 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Fiberglass/tr6 In-Reply-To: References: <20091124.230216.8160.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: I have four stock 'glass fenders for a tr6. But they are attached to a TR6 that I'm trying to part with at the same time as the fenders. Anyone need a TR6 project? On 11/30/09, Rob <19to1tr6 at comcast.net> wrote: > thank you for stating it so well Joe Does any one have the bits > for a 6 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Boruch" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:02 PM > Subject: [Fot] TR4 Fiberglass > > >> FOTers, I recently bought a TR4 that has not raced since the late 70's or >> early 80's. I will eventually get it back on the track with SCCA, but it >> will >> take some time. Do any of you have any fiberglass bits that you would be >> interested in selling? There are probably at least a few vintage cars out >> there that were SCCA cars with flared glass fenders that were converted >> back >> to steel, leaving the glass collecting dust. Joe(B) >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Regis University MBA >> Earn your MBA from Regis University, 100% online. Free info packs! >> http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/c?cp=naTUzpIXLd03YEEXQoA9jwAAJz6U >> 0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAPHCbj4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAiHkAAAAAA= >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> >> >> You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bownes at web9.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as bownes at web9.com From n197tr4 at cs.com Sat Nov 28 06:47:27 2009 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:47:27 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Fiberglass/tr6 In-Reply-To: References: <20091124.230216.8160.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <8CC3E48750ABED8-2220-2DDA6@webmail-m015.sysops.aol.com> FOT & Joe B I have a full set of flares fenders, but they are steel. Ed Diehl has some fibreglass parts and the molds, but I dont think they are flared. Joe A -----Original Message----- From: Rob <19to1tr6 at comcast.net> To: Joe Boruch ; fot at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, Nov 30, 2009 10:10 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Fiberglass/tr6 thank you for stating it so well Joe Does any one have the bits for a 6 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Boruch" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:02 PM Subject: [Fot] TR4 Fiberglass > FOTers, I recently bought a TR4 that has not raced since the late 70's or > early 80's. I will eventually get it back on the track with SCCA, but it > will > take some time. Do any of you have any fiberglass bits that you would be > interested in selling? There are probably at least a few vintage cars out > there that were SCCA cars with flared glass fenders that were converted > back > to steel, leaving the glass collecting dust. Joe(B) > > ____________________________________________________________ > Regis University MBA > Earn your MBA from Regis University, 100% online. Free info packs! > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/c?cp=naTUzpIXLd03YEEXQoA9jwAAJz6U > 0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAPHCbj4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAiHkAAAAAA= > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net You are subscribed as n197tr4 at cs.com http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as n197tr4 at cs.com From mike.mehl at yahoo.com Sun Nov 29 16:15:22 2009 From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:15:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] HS6 carburetor question Message-ID: <440082.25337.qm@web46114.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I am looking for some help on my HS6 carbs. According to Kas Kastner's book he suggest that you modify the spring that holds the jet head up in place. Tim Murphy sent me some nice photo's of how he did this but his carbs appear to be a different SU model. Can some one send me photo's of how they 'wired' theirs. Of all the photos I took while at the KAS cup this past summer I don't have any good photos of the carbs. Thanks for the help. Mike From mpendy at dishmail.net Sun Nov 29 16:52:44 2009 From: mpendy at dishmail.net (Mark Pendergrass) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:52:44 -0800 Subject: [Fot] HS6 carburetor question References: <440082.25337.qm@web46114.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <79F28D6A8E594E10822E6023D8470D1E@Pendys> Hey Mike; maybe you have H6 carb's and not HS6 and are you utilizing the chokes or not ? Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Mehl" To: "Triumph Friends of" Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 3:15 PM Subject: [Fot] HS6 carburetor question >I am looking for some help on my HS6 carbs. According to Kas Kastner's >book > he suggest that you modify the spring that holds the jet head up in place. > Tim Murphy sent me some nice photo's of how he did this but his carbs > appear > to be a different SU model. Can some one send me photo's of how they > 'wired' > theirs. Of all the photos I took while at the KAS cup this past summer I > don't have any good photos of the carbs. Thanks for the help. > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mpendy at dishmail.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as mpendy at dishmail.net From s.janzen at comcast.net Sun Nov 29 18:29:41 2009 From: s.janzen at comcast.net (Scott Janzen) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:29:41 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Turkey Bowl and GT6 Message-ID: The GT6 ran like a dream this weekend at Summit Point, well, other than a leaky cork valve cover gasket dumping oil on the headers first session (the bugger migrated out from under the alloy cover), and a misfire that showed up late in the second session. After checking the (tan) plugs, timing and point gap, I thought of TeriAnn's comments and sanded and installed a new Mallory condenser, and ran a ground wire to the distributor. Next outing was flawless and the car ran great the rest of the weekend. Don't know which of the two fixes worked, but I'm keeping both in place. There are other things to do over the winter, but the weekend was a hoot! Other FOT folks in attendance included Rich Rock, Craig Wensley and John Herrara (I apologize if I am missing anyone else that was there). There was one other all-Triumph running, a Spitfire in BRG that matched mine, Rich's TVR with a 2.5 six, and a pretty, small Peerless GT coupe that had a TR4 engine in it! All in all, I'm guessing there were about 80 cars, grouped in under two liter vintage, over two liter vintage, open wheel and sports racer vintage, and a modern group that included a flock of Legends, at least one Stocker, and some other newer machinery. Friday was reportedly grey and damp, but by the time I showed up Friday evening the wind was blowing the damp away and Saturday dawned sunny and dry. Mid 50s Saturday and 60 Sunday, 35-40 at night, perfect cool weather for a car I usually roast in during the summer! Lots of track time in two days with two practice sessions, a 10 lap race, a 15 lap race and a 45 minute enduro, plus the Friday I missed. Summit Point's main course was in pretty rough shape in turn one and the carousel, but it is reportedly being re-paved in March-April and will be ready for the Jefferson 500 in May ( I believe being sponsored by Vintage Racing Group). Hope to see some other East Coast Triumphs there in the spring. BTW, if anyone knows how to build a GT6 trans that does not drip oil on the exhaust, I am all ears. The vent hole is clear, but it just seems to ooze Redline out the gaskets and the front oil seal (which has been replaced twice). From jmwagner at greenheart.com Sun Nov 29 21:37:28 2009 From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:37:28 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Ebay: Vandervell Bearings Message-ID: <4B134C08.3060505@greenheart.com> Friends, There's some various sized Vandervell bearings for TR2-4 on Ebaymotors right now. Correct me if I'm wrong, but these have always been held in high regard. I haven't seen them come up very often, so I thought I'd mention it. --Justin From GRMTim at aol.com Mon Nov 30 06:56:15 2009 From: GRMTim at aol.com (GRMTim at aol.com) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:56:15 EST Subject: [Fot] New Small-Bore race series Message-ID: We organized this with the FOT in mind. Let me know what you think. Tim Suddard Publisher; Classic Motorsports and Grassroots Motorsports magazines www.classicmotorsports.net www.grassrootsmotorsports.com Phone: (386) 673-4148 Fax: (386) 673-6040 2010 Classic MotorsportsB Cup Announcing a new, four event, mini-enduro road race series for 2010. This series runs on tracks from Florida to Ohio, and is designed to lower the cost and put the fun back into small-bore production car racing. The most unique feature of this series, is that the entry fee will be FREE to anyone already entered at that weekendbs regular event. This series has many unique features, as the pre-1965 requirement will focus on the MGs, Triumphs, Alfa and Porsche 356s who usually donbt get the lionb s share of attention at most race weekends. HSR president, Steve Simpson, states bWe are listening to our customers and with rising costs and more and more focus on newer and faster machinery, we wanted to refocus our efforts on the guys that make up the back-bone of classic car racing, the small-bore production racers of the fifties and early sixties.b SVRA president Howard Turner adds bSVRA is pleased to host the Series at two of our fine venues, and we look forward to seeing the MGs, Triumphs, Alfas and Porsche 356s get top billing and the significant additional track time. It should be a big plus for these cars that are the traditional backbone of our sport,b Classic Motorsports publisher, Tim Suddard says, bWe were looking for ways to put more fun back into small-bore production racing. The Mini-enduro format will offer a lot of seat time without adding to the expense of a race weekend. A longer format would get too expensive in regards to consumables like tires and fuel. The mandatory pit stop will really help those racers who want to share rides, which will add to the fun and further lower expenses.b Drivers in the series will be urged to pit together at races to further build camaraderie. The guys at Classic Motorsports, HSR and SVRA will be throwing a free welcome party on Thursday night of each race weekend to make sure the events kick off in a fun and friendlyB atmosphere. From GRMTim at aol.com Mon Nov 30 06:58:08 2009 From: GRMTim at aol.com (GRMTim at aol.com) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:58:08 EST Subject: [Fot] something for nothing Message-ID: Sorry to be a list crasher, but couldn't let this opportunity go by without letting you guys know about it. Morris Mino wagon is a cool story. Tim Suddard Publisher; Classic Motorsports and Grassroots Motorsports magazines www.classicmotorsports.net www.grassrootsmotorsports.com Phone: (386) 673-4148 Fax: (386) 673-6040 GRM Celebrates 25 Years with some of our Favorite Cars- Grassroots Motorsports is celebrating 25 years of low-buck, high-output editorial, and we're creating a treat for you: an online e-pub version of our 25th anniversary print edition. The electronic version of our 25th anniversary edition is being offered free to you, your friends, and even your friends' friends. You can sign up now for immediate access by logging on to grassroootsmotorsports.com/digital. This special issue contains features at the very core of our interests-and yours. The issue begins with a countdown of the 25 Most Important Cars to enthusiasts like us. From the Chevy Camaro to the MINI Cooper, you'll see a collection the great ones that have defined the Grassroots Motorsports experience. You know that the Mazda Miata is on that list as well, so the issue also shines a spotlight on 10 Important Miatas from our history. You won't want to miss the video walkaround of a trio of GRM Miata projects, from mild to wild, available only in the digital format. Grassroots Motorsports Magazine is the home for in-depth technical articles, so this anniversary issue will be filled with a video-enhanced look at the future when you get to go inside the workings of the newest batch of Twin-Clutch Automatic Transmissions. By signing up for the e-pub, you'll also get our most anticipated buyer's guide to date on the Acura Integra Type R. You'll especially want to look at the video supplement to the buyers guide, available only by signing up to receive the electronic version of Grassroots Motorsports. You'll also find a grip of event coverage, including SCCA Solo National Championships as well as a recap of the NASA Nationals. Just for fun, you'll also get an inside look at the 24 Hours of LeMons series. These events will also have bonus material available to you only in the free digital edition of the magazine. Signing up to receive the e-pub will ensure you're among the first to see the assortment of feature cars gathered for this special issue, including a Toyota twin-cam powered Morris Minor and the K-PAX/3R Volvo S60 World Challenge Racer. It's our birthday, but you are getting the present. Sign up today for your free digital issue! Sincerely, Your Friends at Grassroots Motorsports Magazine From info at dieselperformanceparts.com Mon Nov 30 07:32:46 2009 From: info at dieselperformanceparts.com (Diesel Performance Parts Inc. - Info) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:32:46 -0600 Subject: [Fot] HSR/SVRA GRM Mini Enduro Series Message-ID: <55CB8270B7388B478DC7AC2A39A97C5A63C408@isis.dieselperformanceparts.local> Morning membership, Some great news here from Tim Suddard @ GRM magazine: We organized this with the FOT in mind. Let me know what you think. Tim Suddard Publisher; Classic Motorsports and Grassroots Motorsports magazines www.classicmotorsports.net www.grassrootsmotorsports.com Phone: (386) 673-4148 Fax: (386) 673-6040 2010 Classic MotorsportsB Cup Announcing a new, four event, mini-enduro road race series for 2010. This series runs on tracks from Florida to Ohio, and is designed to lower the cost and put the fun back into small-bore production car racing. The most unique feature of this series, is that the entry fee will be FREE to anyone already entered at that weekendbs regular event. This series has many unique features, as the pre-1965 requirement will focus on the MGs, Triumphs, Alfa and Porsche 356s who usually donbt get the lionb s share of attention at most race weekends. HSR president, Steve Simpson, states bWe are listening to our customers and with rising costs and more and more focus on newer and faster machinery, we wanted to refocus our efforts on the guys that make up the back-bone of classic car racing, the small-bore production racers of the fifties and early sixties.b SVRA president Howard Turner adds bSVRA is pleased to host the Series at two of our fine venues, and we look forward to seeing the MGs, Triumphs, Alfas and Porsche 356s get top billing and the significant additional track time. It should be a big plus for these cars that are the traditional backbone of our sport,b Classic Motorsports publisher, Tim Suddard says, bWe were looking for ways to put more fun back into small-bore production racing. The Mini-enduro format will offer a lot of seat time without adding to the expense of a race weekend. A longer format would get too expensive in regards to consumables like tires and fuel. The mandatory pit stop will really help those racers who want to share rides, which will add to the fun and further lower expenses.b Drivers in the series will be urged to pit together at races to further build camaraderie. The guys at Classic Motorsports, HSR and SVRA will be throwing a free welcome party on Thursday night of each race weekend to make sure the events kick off in a fun and friendlyB atmosphere. My opinion: Tim, I think it's GREAT!!! I hope all the FOT membership gets involved. It'll show HSR/SVRA where their true dollars come from and who REALLY supports the sport. Won't be a bunch of us arriving in SEMI's but our checks clear the bank just fine!!!! Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, INC. 411 Allied Drive Nashville, TN 37211 866-455-7788 Phone 615-834-9923 Fax www.dieselperformanceparts.com From list at mackenzie.aero Mon Nov 30 07:58:52 2009 From: list at mackenzie.aero (Robert MacKenzie) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:58:52 -0600 Subject: [Fot] FOT List members in Raleigh, NC? Message-ID: <005a01ca71cd$a1fb0f20$e5f12d60$@aero> Are there any FOT folks in the Raleigh, NC area who could do me a big favor? I may need some help picking up an engine & gearbox, getting them on a pallet and shipping them back to Texas. I am going to be in Raleigh late next week. Please contact me off list at: Robert at mackenzie.aero Thanx Robert MacKenzie Austin Texas '79 1500 (street) '62 Spitfire 4 (race) From ofbracing at nefcom.net Mon Nov 30 10:17:06 2009 From: ofbracing at nefcom.net (ofbracing) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:17:06 -0500 Subject: [Fot] New Small-Bore race series In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It's great that the big organizers are finally getting interested in us. In the meantime, we shouldn't forget the smaller not-for-profit organizers that have been supporting us all along and usually at much lower cost. In the Southeast we're fortunate to have the VDCA, which has always given us lots of track time AND has always included a free Enduro. I'm sure there are similar groups elsewhere that deserve our continued support. This seems like a good time to remind everyone about VDCA's event coming up December 11-13 at Roebling Road. In addition to tons of track time and the free Enduro, they're doing an oyster roast and pig pickin' on Saturday night. On Friday night the Triumph Ghetto will be doing our usual Surf n' Turf dinner extravaganza and all Triumph drivers, crew and hangers-on are invited. Don -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of GRMTim at aol.com Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:56 AM To: FOT at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] New Small-Bore race series We organized this with the FOT in mind. Let me know what you think. Tim Suddard Publisher; Classic Motorsports and Grassroots Motorsports magazines www.classicmotorsports.net www.grassrootsmotorsports.com Phone: (386) 673-4148 Fax: (386) 673-6040 2010 Classic MotorsportsB Cup Announcing a new, four event, mini-enduro road race series for 2010. This series runs on tracks from Florida to Ohio, and is designed to lower the cost and put the fun back into small-bore production car racing. The most unique feature of this series, is that the entry fee will be FREE to anyone already entered at that weekendbs regular event. This series has many unique features, as the pre-1965 requirement will focus on the MGs, Triumphs, Alfa and Porsche 356s who usually donbt get the lionb s share of attention at most race weekends. HSR president, Steve Simpson, states bWe are listening to our customers and with rising costs and more and more focus on newer and faster machinery, we wanted to refocus our efforts on the guys that make up the back-bone of classic car racing, the small-bore production racers of the fifties and early sixties.b SVRA president Howard Turner adds bSVRA is pleased to host the Series at two of our fine venues, and we look forward to seeing the MGs, Triumphs, Alfas and Porsche 356s get top billing and the significant additional track time. It should be a big plus for these cars that are the traditional backbone of our sport,b Classic Motorsports publisher, Tim Suddard says, bWe were looking for ways to put more fun back into small-bore production racing. The Mini-enduro format will offer a lot of seat time without adding to the expense of a race weekend. A longer format would get too expensive in regards to consumables like tires and fuel. The mandatory pit stop will really help those racers who want to share rides, which will add to the fun and further lower expenses.b Drivers in the series will be urged to pit together at races to further build camaraderie. The guys at Classic Motorsports, HSR and SVRA will be throwing a free welcome party on Thursday night of each race weekend to make sure the events kick off in a fun and friendlyB atmosphere. You are subscribed as ofbracing at nefcom.net http://www.fot-racing.com From jmwagner at greenheart.com Mon Nov 30 12:46:36 2009 From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:46:36 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Some racing parts for sale on Craigslist Message-ID: <4B14211C.7000802@greenheart.com> I ran into these on Craigslist, I thought it might be of interest to someone here.... (I don't know the seller.) --Justin Triumph TR-2 through TR-4 Big Bore 87MM. Piston Set and Head Gasket. These are Hepolite Power Max Piston Set (which are better than the REPCO Brand) ... sacramento.craigslist.org/pts/1487293919.html Triumph TR-2 3 4 Iskenderian B- Racing Cam and new bearings $200.00 obo. My number is (916)308-4222. Location: Fair Oaks; it's NOT ok to contact this poster ... sacramento.craigslist.org/pts/1487362811.html From dos_gusanos at msn.com Mon Nov 30 14:02:02 2009 From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (dos_gusanos at msn.com) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:02:02 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Parts needed for projects............ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you for the many replies to my email. I was able to come up with all the parts I needed off the list. .............................Cheers Henry Morrison > > Hello Gang, My son has laid down the challenge that i can't get my TR4 > running by June. Rather than go through the pain and humiliation of paying > him 50 clams, I am willing to pay nearly any amount for the following parts > that are missing from the project. From trmarty at hotmail.com Mon Nov 30 18:23:22 2009 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:23:22 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Panasport question Message-ID: I am looking to replace one of my FS series Panasports I bent last year. Panasport tells me FS are no longer made, they built new tooling and are now making FZ series wheel. Suposidly they are the same or close enough that I will not see any difference next to my other 3 wheels. I do not see the FZ's on the Panasport web site. Anybody have FZ's to know if they do indeed look the same? Marty _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ From vintage.racer at comcast.net Mon Nov 30 18:30:35 2009 From: vintage.racer at comcast.net (Gary Horstkorta) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:30:35 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Plastic Window Remedy Message-ID: <000001ca7225$e20a1b30$a61e5190$@racer@comcast.net> Hello: I thought I'd pass along a quick remedy to the dreaded "cloudy" plastic windows that affect soft tops over time. The windows in my TR6 were on their way to being opaque which made driving with the top up a safety hazard. I first tried using Mequiar's PlastX, a plastic cleaner & polish, but with no improvement. Next, I tried a bottle of plastic polish I found in the back of my garage cabinet called Novus Plastic Polish No. 2. I had purchased this product a few years ago from the local TAP Plastics store to clean the plastic windshield on my racecar. Using a microfiber hand applicator I applied the polish to both the inside and outside of my tops plastic windows then wiped it with a terry cloth towel. After about thirty minutes of work, the windows are virtually as good as new...I was amazed at the results. I checked the Internet and Novus has a website at www.novuspolish.com. FYI, I have no financial interest in this product, just want to pass along the info for a product that worked for me. Gary 69 TR6 62 TR4 From jmwagner at tstonramp.com Mon Nov 30 19:24:06 2009 From: jmwagner at tstonramp.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:24:06 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Plastic Window Remedy In-Reply-To: <000001ca7225$e20a1b30$a61e5190$@racer@comcast.net> References: <000001ca7225$e20a1b30$a61e5190$@racer@comcast.net> Message-ID: Novus #2 is good stuff. Focus on the inside first. It is my experience that most of the clouding issues are, surprisingly, on the inside. --Justin On Nov 30, 2009, at 5:30 PM, "Gary Horstkorta" wrote: > Hello: > > > > I thought I'd pass along a quick remedy to the dreaded "cloudy" > plastic > windows that affect soft tops over time. The windows in my TR6 were > on > their way to being opaque which made driving with the top up a safety > hazard. I first tried using Mequiar's PlastX, a plastic cleaner & > polish, > but with no improvement. Next, I tried a bottle of plastic polish I > found > in the back of my garage cabinet called Novus Plastic Polish No. 2. > I had > purchased this product a few years ago from the local TAP Plastics > store to > clean the plastic windshield on my racecar. > > > > Using a microfiber hand applicator I applied the polish to both the > inside > and outside of my tops plastic windows then wiped it with a terry > cloth > towel. After about thirty minutes of work, the windows are > virtually as > good as new...I was amazed at the results. I checked the Internet > and Novus > has a website at www.novuspolish.com. FYI, I have no financial > interest in > this product, just want to pass along the info for a product that > worked for > me. > > > > Gary > > > > 69 TR6 > > 62 TR4 > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jmwagner at greenheart.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as jmwagner at greenheart.com From billb at bnj.com Mon Nov 30 20:18:58 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:18:58 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Plastic Window Remedy In-Reply-To: References: <000001ca7225$e20a1b30$a61e5190$@racer@comcast.net> Message-ID: The inside clouding is usually aromatics. What the car biz calls Vinyl fog, but really it's all the polymers floating around inside your car looking for a place to stick to. They really stick everywhere but they show up on windows. On Nov 30, 2009, at 6:24 PM, Justin Wagner wrote: > Novus #2 is good stuff. Focus on the inside first. It is my experience that most of the clouding issues are, surprisingly, on the inside. --Justin > > > > On Nov 30, 2009, at 5:30 PM, "Gary Horstkorta" wrote: > >> Hello: >> >> >> >> I thought I'd pass along a quick remedy to the dreaded "cloudy" plastic >> windows that affect soft tops over time. The windows in my TR6 were on >> their way to being opaque which made driving with the top up a safety >> hazard. I first tried using Mequiar's PlastX, a plastic cleaner & polish, >> but with no improvement. Next, I tried a bottle of plastic polish I found >> in the back of my garage cabinet called Novus Plastic Polish No. 2. I had >> purchased this product a few years ago from the local TAP Plastics store to >> clean the plastic windshield on my racecar. >> >> >> >> Using a microfiber hand applicator I applied the polish to both the inside >> and outside of my tops plastic windows then wiped it with a terry cloth >> towel. After about thirty minutes of work, the windows are virtually as >> good as new...I was amazed at the results. I checked the Internet and Novus >> has a website at www.novuspolish.com. FYI, I have no financial interest in >> this product, just want to pass along the info for a product that worked for >> me. >> >> >> >> Gary >> >> >> >> 69 TR6 >> >> 62 TR4 >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as jmwagner at greenheart.com >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> >> >> You are subscribed as jmwagner at greenheart.com > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com From billb at bnj.com Mon Nov 30 20:22:08 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:22:08 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Plastic Window Remedy In-Reply-To: <000001ca7225$e20a1b30$a61e5190$@racer@comcast.net> References: <000001ca7225$e20a1b30$a61e5190$@racer@comcast.net> Message-ID: <12DA79FF-4702-4ADD-BB9D-7FCCFEDE3B87@bnj.com> No question, best plastic polish I've ever tried. comes in two forms that i know of #1 and #2. #2 has some fine grit to it and removes scratches. Also apparently fills them somehow. Probably a soluble polymer like the old eagle One plastic polish had (it was really good too, but Valveoline changed the formula and now it sux) #1 is more of a cleaner/polish and fills scratches but doesn't buff. Both are magic and great for lexan shields. My helmet visors last 10X longer because of these products. On Nov 30, 2009, at 5:30 PM, Gary Horstkorta wrote: > Hello: > > > > I thought I'd pass along a quick remedy to the dreaded "cloudy" plastic > windows that affect soft tops over time. The windows in my TR6 were on > their way to being opaque which made driving with the top up a safety > hazard. I first tried using Mequiar's PlastX, a plastic cleaner & polish, > but with no improvement. Next, I tried a bottle of plastic polish I found > in the back of my garage cabinet called Novus Plastic Polish No. 2. I had > purchased this product a few years ago from the local TAP Plastics store to > clean the plastic windshield on my racecar. > > > > Using a microfiber hand applicator I applied the polish to both the inside > and outside of my tops plastic windows then wiped it with a terry cloth > towel. After about thirty minutes of work, the windows are virtually as > good as new...I was amazed at the results. I checked the Internet and Novus > has a website at www.novuspolish.com. FYI, I have no financial interest in > this product, just want to pass along the info for a product that worked for > me. > > > > Gary > > > > 69 TR6 > > 62 TR4 > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com From norlinengineering at comcast.net Sun Nov 1 09:41:00 2009 From: norlinengineering at comcast.net (Norlin Engineering) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:41:00 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Joe's Spit Bench - "Love Seat" - No Triumph Content In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <141B2B772F2949629E4430E89F7805FE@TOSHIBALAPTOP> This story brings back a favorite memory from the late 60's. My friends and I were having an afternoon kegger at a remote location on the Sandy River outside of Portland, OR. Three of the young ladies in attendance asked if I would drive them the few miles into the closest gas station so they wouldn't have to use the cover of the trees like the guys did. We all piled into my 1960 MGA for the short drive. While I was waiting in the car for the girls to come out of the restroom, a local man drove in and started talking with the gas station attendant. As the first of the three (all good looking brunettes) got into the car with me he glanced my way and sort of smiled. When the second one came out, he got a great big grin on his face. When the third one joined us, I would have needed a putty knife to scrape his jaw off the ground. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Group44TR7 at aol.com Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 6:27 AM To: spitlist at cox.net; dave at microworks.net; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Joe's Spit Bench - "Love Seat" Frequented an eating establishment back in Bayfield Wisconsin that was a daily breakfast hang out for local fisherman. Parked the car outside. As I walked inside, I heard the last of the conversation about my car "So what if its attracts women, it ain't got a back seat, so what good is it?" Obviously, he would not have made that remark if I had Joe's "love seat". Under the circumstances - with no love seat - I did the only thing possible. I returned the next morning at the same time with my date for the weekend knowing the same group of fisherman would be there. My date, who was a 5' 10" model, was very sporting about the whole situation. She could not have played the situation any better from her choice of clothes to her hanging on me as we walked to the door. As we entered the establishment, I looked directly at the man who made the remark, at which point the other fisherman at his table erupted with laughter. Cary Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From jimhearn1 at comcast.net Sun Nov 1 10:42:07 2009 From: jimhearn1 at comcast.net (jimhearn1 at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 17:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Broken or cracked diff mount Message-ID: <1465989874.3170381257097327375.JavaMail.root@sz0175a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Sorry, I meant to say on my vibration problem that the car is a 1974 TR6. From tr4racing at googlemail.com Mon Nov 2 03:52:02 2009 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:52:02 +0100 Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed In-Reply-To: <990103.26601.qm@web46107.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <990103.26601.qm@web46107.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001301ca5baa$846c52e0$8d44f8a0$@com> I moved on to a 16 row cooler. I don't know the hose size bit it is about 0.4" inside diameter. The cooler is mounted upright on the left hand side next to the radiator. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Mike Mehl Gesendet: Sonntag, 1. November 2009 03:06 An: Triumph Friends of Betreff: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed I got a lot of good ideas from the radiator questions from the forum. I also need some thoughts on an oil cooler. I have a very old oil cooler on the car that looks like I should not use. I am looking for advice on what oil cooler to run along with the fitting/hose size. Also where should I mount. it? Thanks. Mike Mehl Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From william.tobin3 at verizon.net Mon Nov 2 06:50:11 2009 From: william.tobin3 at verizon.net (WILLIAM TOBIN) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:50:11 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed References: <990103.26601.qm@web46107.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <007301ca5bc3$6670cfa0$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> Hi Mike, a couple thoughts on the oil cooler. If you look at coolers, they will usually have either BSP or AN fittings. My humble opinion is to buy a cooler with AN fittings; you can make your own lines, fittings/hose ends are readily available in many configurations, and colors for that matter. Do NOT use barb/clamp setups; they sometimes blow off. If you do get a cooler with BSP fittings, Pegasus sells BSP/AN adapters; I like AN stuff. I keep a line made up in case of a rock through the cooler or cold weather; I can bypas the cooler in a very few minutes. And cap off the cooler fittings. I use -10 lines to the cooler; they give lots of flow. You can also buy a fitting to put a temp gauge in the line if need be. Mount it so that you have good air flow through it but don't steal air from the radiator. I mounted mine in isolator mounts to decrease vibration; anybody's thoughts on that? Good or not? My $0.02 worth. Bill ---- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Mehl" To: "Triumph Friends of" Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:05 PM Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed > I got a lot of good ideas from the radiator questions from the forum. I also > need some thoughts on an oil cooler. I have a very old oil cooler on the > car that looks like I should not use. I am looking for advice on what oil > cooler to run along with the fitting/hose size. Also where should I mount. > it? > > Thanks. > Mike Mehl > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From fpspitfire at comcast.net Mon Nov 2 08:33:12 2009 From: fpspitfire at comcast.net (fpspitfire at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:33:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed In-Reply-To: <007301ca5bc3$6670cfa0$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> Message-ID: <255266731.3328111257175992467.JavaMail.root@sz0072a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I use a 16 row on the spitfire.B -10 AN fittings. I prefer the Setrab coolers over the Mocal...4 Mocals...all broke within a few races.B The Setrab one has been good for 5 years now. I don't isolation mount, I firm mount from one side only so that the cooler is in compression.B aaron ----- Original Message ----- From: "WILLIAM TOBIN" To: "Mike Mehl" , "Triumph Friends of" Sent: Monday, November 2, 2009 7:50:11 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed B B Hi Mike, a couple thoughts on the oil cooler. B B If you look at coolers, they will usually have either BSP or AN fittings. My humble opinion is to buy a cooler with AN fittings; you can make your own lines, fittings/hose ends are readily available in many configurations, and colors for that matter. Do NOT use barb/clamp setups; they sometimes blow off. If you do get a cooler with BSP fittings, Pegasus sells BSP/AN adapters; I like AN stuff. I keep a line made up in case of a rock through the cooler or cold weather; I can bypas the cooler in a very few minutes. And cap off the cooler fittings. B B I use -10 lines to the cooler; they give lots of flow. You can also buy a fitting to put a temp gauge in the line if need be. B B Mount it so that you have good air flow through it but don't steal air from the radiator. I mounted mine in isolator mounts to decrease vibration; anybody's thoughts on that? Good or not? B B My $0.02 worth. B B Bill ---- Original Message ----- B B From: "Mike Mehl" B B To: "Triumph Friends of" B B Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:05 PM B B Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed B B > I got a lot of good ideas from the radiator questions from the forum. B I also B B > need some thoughts on an oil cooler. B I have a very old oil cooler on the B B > car that looks like I should not use. I am looking for advice on what oil B B > cooler to run along with the fitting/hose size. B Also where should I mount. B B > it? B B > B B > Thanks. B B > Mike Mehl B B > _______________________________________________ B B > B B > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html B B > B B > http://www.fot-racing.com B B > B B > B B > Fot at autox.team.net B B > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot B B > B B > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From goodparts at verizon.net Mon Nov 2 08:38:32 2009 From: goodparts at verizon.net (Richard Good) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:38:32 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed In-Reply-To: <007301ca5bc3$6670cfa0$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> References: <990103.26601.qm@web46107.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <007301ca5bc3$6670cfa0$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> Message-ID: <6B888CC998814C69A055D354E93E12AA@AdminPC> Isolator mounts are a good idea, especially if mounted on the "radiator protection shield" on a TR6. This piece also mounts the sway bar which can cause some twisting that will crack the cooler. Been there. Richard Good ----- Original Message ----- From: "WILLIAM TOBIN" To: "Mike Mehl" ; "Triumph Friends of" Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed > Hi Mike, a couple thoughts on the oil cooler. > If you look at coolers, they will usually have either BSP or AN fittings. > My humble opinion is to buy a cooler with AN fittings; you can make your > own > lines, fittings/hose ends are readily available in many configurations, > and > colors for that matter. Do NOT use barb/clamp setups; they sometimes blow > off. If you do get a cooler with BSP fittings, Pegasus sells BSP/AN > adapters; I like AN stuff. I keep a line made up in case of a rock through > the cooler or cold weather; I can bypas the cooler in a very few minutes. > And cap off the cooler fittings. > I use -10 lines to the cooler; they give lots of flow. You can also buy a > fitting to put a temp gauge in the line if need be. > Mount it so that you have good air flow through it but don't steal air > from the radiator. I mounted mine in isolator mounts to decrease > vibration; > anybody's thoughts on that? Good or not? > My $0.02 worth. > Bill ---- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Mehl" > To: "Triumph Friends of" > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:05 PM > Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed > > > > I got a lot of good ideas from the radiator questions from the forum. > I > also > > need some thoughts on an oil cooler. I have a very old oil cooler on > the > > car that looks like I should not use. I am looking for advice on what > oil > > cooler to run along with the fitting/hose size. Also where should I > mount. > > it? > > > > Thanks. > > Mike Mehl > > _______________________________________________ From norlinengineering at comcast.net Mon Nov 2 09:35:17 2009 From: norlinengineering at comcast.net (Norlin Engineering) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:35:17 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed In-Reply-To: <990103.26601.qm@web46107.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Mike Do not use the old cooler, get a new one. If you loose a bearing, toss the cooler and get another new one. I use Mocal and have had no problems. Jim -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Mehl Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:06 PM To: Triumph Friends of Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed I got a lot of good ideas from the radiator questions from the forum. I also need some thoughts on an oil cooler. I have a very old oil cooler on the car that looks like I should not use. I am looking for advice on what oil cooler to run along with the fitting/hose size. Also where should I mount. it? Thanks. Mike Mehl Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From bownes at seiri.com Mon Nov 2 10:22:35 2009 From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:22:35 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed In-Reply-To: References: <990103.26601.qm@web46107.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Amen to that. Been there, learned the lesson. Worst part was there was a new cooler sitting on the shelf. I use the mocals on pretty much everything and put BSP to AN adaptors on them. They are cheap and efficient. Emergency repair tip: In a serious emergency, like it's 100 degrees out, an hour before the flag and you just found out the cooler on the car is cracked, if nothing else at all is available, you can use an automatic trans cooler. Flare the (normally slip on) hose ends, put some 1/2" hose on, double hose clamp it, and go racing *after* the oil has warmed up. Replace upon arrival home while admiring the new checkered flag you just got to hang in the garage. On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Norlin Engineering < norlinengineering at comcast.net> wrote: > Mike > > Do not use the old cooler, get a new one. If you loose a bearing, toss the > cooler and get another new one. I use Mocal and have had no problems. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Mike Mehl > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:06 PM > To: Triumph Friends of > Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed > > > I got a lot of good ideas from the radiator questions from the forum. I > also need some thoughts on an oil cooler. I have a very old oil cooler on > the car that looks like I should not use. I am looking for advice on what > oil cooler to run along with the fitting/hose size. Also where should I > mount. > it? > > Thanks. > Mike Mehl > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From Gt6steve at aol.com Mon Nov 2 15:11:32 2009 From: Gt6steve at aol.com (Gt6steve at aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:11:32 EST Subject: [Fot] TR box leak points Message-ID: Amici, This year I started using the Redline Shockproof gear oil in the TR trans and I have had a huge mess on my hands from the top of the box. I believe this leak has always been there but the oil would run off and go unnoticed while this weird green stuff CLINGS! I believe it is coming from the front of the shift box, maybe the three press-in plugs? Any advice or experience on leakproofing these boxes? I have a 3.8" hose breather on the tailshaft extension. Should I put something else in? It really is a mess! From mpendy at dishmail.net Mon Nov 2 20:30:20 2009 From: mpendy at dishmail.net (Mark Pendergrass) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:30:20 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed References: <255266731.3328111257175992467.JavaMail.root@sz0072a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1F085693AEC04DD1809A011B022A4762@Pendys> I second that; i have three Mocals on the shelf, all have leaks,the last one went one race . Switched to Setrab at the second race of the season, no issues at this time. Mark Pendy ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "WILLIAM TOBIN" Cc: "Triumph Friends of" Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed >I use a 16 row on the spitfire.B -10 AN fittings. > > > > I prefer the Setrab coolers over the Mocal...4 Mocals...all broke within a > few > races.B The Setrab one has been good for 5 years now. > > > > I don't isolation mount, I firm mount from one side only so that the > cooler is > in compression.B > > > > aaron > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "WILLIAM TOBIN" > To: "Mike Mehl" , "Triumph Friends of" > > Sent: Monday, November 2, 2009 7:50:11 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed > > B B Hi Mike, a couple thoughts on the oil cooler. > B B If you look at coolers, they will usually have either BSP or AN > fittings. > My humble opinion is to buy a cooler with AN fittings; you can make your > own > lines, fittings/hose ends are readily available in many configurations, > and > colors for that matter. Do NOT use barb/clamp setups; they sometimes blow > off. If you do get a cooler with BSP fittings, Pegasus sells BSP/AN > adapters; I like AN stuff. I keep a line made up in case of a rock through > the cooler or cold weather; I can bypas the cooler in a very few minutes. > And cap off the cooler fittings. > B B I use -10 lines to the cooler; they give lots of flow. You can also > buy a > fitting to put a temp gauge in the line if need be. > B B Mount it so that you have good air flow through it but don't steal air > from the radiator. I mounted mine in isolator mounts to decrease > vibration; > anybody's thoughts on that? Good or not? > B B My $0.02 worth. > B B Bill ---- Original Message ----- > B B From: "Mike Mehl" > B B To: "Triumph Friends of" > B B Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:05 PM > B B Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed > > > B B > I got a lot of good ideas from the radiator questions from the > forum. > B I > also > B B > need some thoughts on an oil cooler. B I have a very old oil cooler > on > the > B B > car that looks like I should not use. I am looking for advice on > what > oil > B B > cooler to run along with the fitting/hose size. B Also where should > I > mount. > B B > it? > B B > > B B > Thanks. > B B > Mike Mehl > B B > _______________________________________________ > B B > > B B > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > B B > > B B > http://www.fot-racing.com > B B > > B B > > B B > Fot at autox.team.net > B B > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > B B > > B B > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From gtlund at cyberspeedway.net Mon Nov 2 21:55:25 2009 From: gtlund at cyberspeedway.net (greg) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:55:25 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR box leak points In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AEFB7BD.2070904@cyberspeedway.net> Steve, The shift rail o rings probably need to be replaced. You will have to remove the gearbox top and remove the grub screws which retain the shift forks. Be careful as those screws are prone to breaking. I use a square head socket and extension to make sure I only put a turning moment on the screw. Since I started using this method about 15 years ago I haven't broken any screws. WHile your in there I would use a spring scale and set the detent adjustments per the factory. It really does make a nicer shifting box. Make sure to use only Viton orings. Buna N will not tolerate modern EP gear lube of any kind. This also goes for shaft seals. Most industrial bearing houses stock nitrile shaft seals and they will degrade quickly. If you use generic seals make sure to order Viton. This also accounts for some of the aftermarket seals leaking prematurely. Some old car parts suppliers know hobbyists expect leaks so they use whatever industrial seal is a close fit. Also, engine oil seals need to be Viton to tolerate the heat. Nitrile starts to harden (vulcanize further) at 180 degrees F. Greg Lund Gt6steve at aol.com wrote: > Amici, > > This year I started using the Redline Shockproof gear oil in the TR trans > and I have had a huge mess on my hands from the top of the box. I believe > this leak has always been there but the oil would run off and go unnoticed > while this weird green stuff CLINGS! > > I believe it is coming from the front of the shift box, maybe the three > press-in plugs? > > Any advice or experience on leakproofing these boxes? I have a 3.8" hose > breather on the tailshaft extension. Should I put something else in? > > It really is a mess! > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From jmwagner at greenheart.com Mon Nov 2 22:17:24 2009 From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:17:24 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Stainless Oil Catch Tank (Catch Can) with Breather Message-ID: <4AEFBCE4.5060904@greenheart.com> I just ran across this while surfing the net.... I'm just passing along the link because I think the oil catch can looks cool.... and the company seems to have some good products... (UK based) I've never done business with them. --Justin http://shop1.actinicexpress.co.uk/shops/Rat_Sport/index.php?cat=Oil_Catch_Tanks From jmwagner at greenheart.com Mon Nov 2 23:41:00 2009 From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:41:00 -0800 Subject: [Fot] triumph spitfire/parts & race car for sale Message-ID: <4AEFD07C.7060905@greenheart.com> Ran across this... --Justin http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/pts/1445415115.html From gkbyrne at optushome.com.au Tue Nov 3 03:40:35 2009 From: gkbyrne at optushome.com.au (Geoff Byrne) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:40:35 +1100 Subject: [Fot] TR box leak points In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0801545F738D41F099C3C8BD3446E70F@GEOFFPC> Amici i run redline and have had similar problems leaks at the top of the box come from either or both the shift rail seals and the reverse and OD switches . If you dont need the switches remove and plug up . If you need them replace the small o ring on the plunger by taking the switch apart or get a new one . Seal the switch body into the casing with Loctite thread sealant. The shift rail o rings are replace by dismantling the cover as described in the manual . put some heavy duty grease on them when you install . i have found the welsch plugs very seldom leak Having done these things no more leaks and great oil Geoff Byrne TR6 racer Down Under ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:11 AM Subject: [Fot] TR box leak points > Amici, > > This year I started using the Redline Shockproof gear oil in the TR trans > and I have had a huge mess on my hands from the top of the box. I believe > this leak has always been there but the oil would run off and go unnoticed > while this weird green stuff CLINGS! > > I believe it is coming from the front of the shift box, maybe the three > press-in plugs? > > Any advice or experience on leakproofing these boxes? I have a 3.8" hose > breather on the tailshaft extension. Should I put something else in? > > It really is a mess! > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From John.Reed at wilson.com Tue Nov 3 10:48:08 2009 From: John.Reed at wilson.com (John Reed) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:48:08 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Message-ID: FOT, I would like to nominate Jason Ostrowski to our fine group. Jason will be a second generation racer, his father and I raced together back when he was a little snot nosed kid. He's still snot nosed but bigger now. He will be racing a GT6 he just bought. Can I get a second? jason at multivintage.com Thanks, John Regards, John Reed Global Staff Photographer Creative Services Wilson Sporting Goods Co. 8750 W Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago, Illinois 60631, USA Tel. + 1.773.714.6895, fax +1.773.714.4585 John.Reed at wilson.com www.wilson.com www.amersports.com This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. From emanteno at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 11:43:13 2009 From: emanteno at gmail.com (Irv Korey) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:43:13 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <354a1780911031043p5bc303bdh1f1b127e865ec0aa@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:48 AM, John Reed wrote: > FOT, > > I would like to nominate Jason Ostrowski to our fine group. Jason will be a > second generation racer, his father and I raced together back when he was a > little snot nosed kid. He's still snot nosed but bigger now. He will be > racing a GT6 he just bought. > > Can I get a second? > Second. Welcome to Jason. From ehusmann53 at yahoo.com Tue Nov 3 11:50:44 2009 From: ehusmann53 at yahoo.com (Ernest Husmann) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:50:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <138343.17928.qm@web57608.mail.re1.yahoo.com> John: Anyone you hang with has got to have issues that would make them a good fit for our little group; second. Ernie --- On Tue, 11/3/09, John Reed wrote: From: John Reed Subject: [Fot] Nomination To: "'Friends of Triumph'" Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 11:48 AM FOT, I would like to nominate Jason Ostrowski to our fine group. Jason will be a second generation racer, his father and I raced together back when he was a little snot nosed kid. He's still snot nosed but bigger now. He will be racing a GT6 he just bought. Can I get a second? jason at multivintage.com Thanks, John Regards, John Reed Global Staff Photographer Creative Services Wilson Sporting Goods Co. 8750 W Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago, Illinois 60631, USA Tel. + 1.773.714.6895, fax +1.773.714.4585 John.Reed at wilson.com www.wilson.com www.amersports.com This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From jerrybarr at charter.net Tue Nov 3 11:55:13 2009 From: jerrybarr at charter.net (jerrybarr at charter.net) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:55:13 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Message-ID: <635642373-1257274508-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1999458743-@bda008.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Second!! ------Original Message------ From: John Reed Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net To: 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: [Fot] Nomination Sent: Nov 3, 2009 11:48 AM FOT, I would like to nominate Jason Ostrowski to our fine group. Jason will be a second generation racer, his father and I raced together back when he was a little snot nosed kid. He's still snot nosed but bigger now. He will be racing a GT6 he just bought. Can I get a second? jason at multivintage.com Thanks, John Regards, John Reed Global Staff Photographer Creative Services Wilson Sporting Goods Co. 8750 W Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago, Illinois 60631, USA Tel. + 1.773.714.6895, fax +1.773.714.4585 John.Reed at wilson.com www.wilson.com www.amersports.com This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Sent from my BlackBerry. wireless device from U.S. Cellular From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Tue Nov 3 12:03:57 2009 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:03:57 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C74BA4081@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com> Second! Will he be racing with Midwestern Council? Scott -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Reed Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 11:48 AM To: 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: [Fot] Nomination FOT, I would like to nominate Jason Ostrowski to our fine group. Jason will be a second generation racer, his father and I raced together back when he was a little snot nosed kid. He's still snot nosed but bigger now. He will be racing a GT6 he just bought. Can I get a second? jason at multivintage.com Thanks, John Regards, John Reed Global Staff Photographer Creative Services Wilson Sporting Goods Co. 8750 W Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago, Illinois 60631, USA Tel. + 1.773.714.6895, fax +1.773.714.4585 John.Reed at wilson.com www.wilson.com www.amersports.com This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From adams910 at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 17:46:31 2009 From: adams910 at gmail.com (Bob Adams) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:46:31 -0500 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com Message-ID: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> Here's a pretty interesting resource.. http://www.britishracecar.com/ It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar with and there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. Bob From dave at microworks.net Tue Nov 3 18:38:34 2009 From: dave at microworks.net (David W. Riddle) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:38:34 -0700 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.co m> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091104013927.E8493187671@autox.team.net> Are they MG bigots over there? Not a single TR?! At 05:46 PM 11/3/2009, Bob Adams wrote: >Here's a pretty interesting resource.. >http://www.britishracecar.com/ > >It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar with and >there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. > >Bob >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > >Fot at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From spitlist at cox.net Tue Nov 3 19:48:38 2009 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:48:38 -0700 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <20091104013927.E8493187671@autox.team.net> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> <20091104013927.E8493187671@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <653B0E2A122D435C967D713505CA25EE@joepentiumnew> Dave, I am sure that this site is just getting off the ground and they have gotten a number of entries from MG racers. It appears to be an offshoot of a long established site (British V8) which does have a number of Triumphs including Tiny Tim, My black Spit. So, the thing to do is start sending Triumph entries to them so we can overshadow all those lowly MG's Joe C. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David W. Riddle Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 6:39 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com Are they MG bigots over there? Not a single TR?! At 05:46 PM 11/3/2009, Bob Adams wrote: >Here's a pretty interesting resource.. >http://www.britishracecar.com/ > >It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar with and >there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. > >Bob >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > >Fot at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From s.janzen at comcast.net Wed Nov 4 08:33:02 2009 From: s.janzen at comcast.net (Scott Janzen) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:33:02 -0500 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing that they can compete in vintage anywhere. On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: Here's a pretty interesting resource.. http://www.britishracecar.com/ It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar with and there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. Bob Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From spitlist at cox.net Wed Nov 4 10:02:00 2009 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:02:00 -0700 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5471F5497DFE487BA1CCC843EC210A0E@joepentiumnew> If that is the case, maybe there Is hope for Tiny Tim in vintage racing! :) Joe C. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Scott Janzen Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:33 AM Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing that they can compete in vintage anywhere. On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: Here's a pretty interesting resource.. http://www.britishracecar.com/ It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar with and there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. Bob Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From billb at bnj.com Wed Nov 4 10:10:58 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:10:58 -0800 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> Message-ID: <9A2DC7A4-0F9F-4CF2-9398-8B509C81BF92@bnj.com> They're pretty fast, though Peyote can keep up with some of them if they're having a bad day and I'm having a good one. On Nov 4, 2009, at 7:33 AM, Scott Janzen wrote: > some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so > far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing > that they can compete in vintage anywhere. > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: > > Here's a pretty interesting resource.. > http://www.britishracecar.com/ > > It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar > with and > there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. > > Bob > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From andre at gt6.ca Wed Nov 4 10:40:13 2009 From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:40:13 -0500 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4362ae390911040940m4bac53b4rcea9f83b0afdbdc3@mail.gmail.com> Regardless. Very well prepared cars. I've been taking notes from a few of them as I work up my racer. A. 2009/11/4 Scott Janzen : > some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so > far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing > that they can compete in vintage anywhere. > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: > > Here's a pretty interesting resource.. > http://www.britishracecar.com/ > > It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar > with and > there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. > > Bob > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > -- Andre Rousseau - andre at gt6.ca '68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/ '77 FIAT 124 Vintage Racer #515 - http://www.124racer.com/ Ottawa, ON, Canada It is difficult to overcome one's passions, and impossible to satisfy them Marguerite de la Sabliere quote From tedtsimx at bright.net Wed Nov 4 12:07:14 2009 From: tedtsimx at bright.net (Ted Schumacher) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:07:14 -0500 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <5471F5497DFE487BA1CCC843EC210A0E@joepentiumnew> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> <5471F5497DFE487BA1CCC843EC210A0E@joepentiumnew> Message-ID: <4AF1D0E2.80008@bright.net> Joe, since the main references seem to be to SVRA, remember it's a for profit group Or, if you can write the check, we will have a class. Ted Joe Curry wrote: > If that is the case, maybe there Is hope for Tiny Tim in vintage racing! :) > > Joe C. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Scott Janzen > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:33 AM > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com > > some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so > far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing > that they can compete in vintage anywhere. > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: > > Here's a pretty interesting resource.. > http://www.britishracecar.com/ > > It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar > with and > there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. > > Bob > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: 270.14.49/2480 - Release Date: 11/04/09 07:37:00 > > -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx at bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 From spitlist at cox.net Wed Nov 4 13:12:44 2009 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:12:44 -0700 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <4AF1D0E2.80008@bright.net> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> <5471F5497DFE487BA1CCC843EC210A0E@joepentiumnew> <4AF1D0E2.80008@bright.net> Message-ID: I am afraid that at this time, it would be far too expensive for me to return the car to race trim and to go to any of those races. So I guess I will have to be satisfied having Tiny Tim as a street rod! :-) Joe _____ From: Ted Schumacher [mailto:tedtsimx at bright.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:07 PM To: Joe Curry Cc: 'Scott Janzen'; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com Joe, since the main references seem to be to SVRA, remember it's a for profit group Or, if you can write the check, we will have a class. Ted Joe Curry wrote: If that is the case, maybe there Is hope for Tiny Tim in vintage racing! :) Joe C. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Scott Janzen Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:33 AM Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing that they can compete in vintage anywhere. On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: Here's a pretty interesting resource.. http://www.britishracecar.com/ It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar with and there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. Bob Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: 270.14.49/2480 - Release Date: 11/04/09 07:37:00 -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx at bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 From trbilbo at aol.com Wed Nov 4 17:28:00 2009 From: trbilbo at aol.com (trbilbo at aol.com) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:28:00 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Deiter's TR4 at Nurburging flat out! Wild! In-Reply-To: <20091027131853.56AC918764B@autox.team.net> References: <20091027131853.56AC918764B@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <8CC2BC5F6EFD383-3670-6CFF@webmail-d044.sysops.aol.com> Godo stuff Tony! This is a link to one of my favs .... made me pucker more than a bit.... I have parts in Deiter's car so this was his 5 minute send off! GREAT in-car laps of a tasty-FAST TR4 at NurBurGring FLAT out. The squealing drifts are wonderful! (and note the leather helmet and goggles!) enjoy! (Paste it if it doesn't click) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kystdfr1V6k&NR=1 Billy B. E Ticket Triumphs -----Original Message----- From: Tony Drews To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 6:18 am Subject: [Fot] Edited Hallett Video on You Tube I edited the race footage down to the 10 minute You Tube limit and put it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5uJLTLrXOk&feature=youtube_gdata Used Windows Live Movie Maker to edit and post it, I think the quality came out very nice. Cheers, Tony Drews Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From colordog.1 at earthlink.net Wed Nov 4 18:46:31 2009 From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (steve) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:46:31 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [Fot] Deiter's TR4 at Nurburging flat out! Wild! Message-ID: <28914686.1257385591482.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> 3 minutes 18 seconds into the video, YIKES! ~Steve -----Original Message----- >From: trbilbo at aol.com >Sent: Nov 4, 2009 4:28 PM >To: tony at tonydrews.com, fot at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Fot] Deiter's TR4 at Nurburging flat out! Wild! > >Godo stuff Tony! > >This is a link to one of my favs .... made me pucker more than a bit.... > >I have parts in Deiter's car so this was his 5 minute send off! > >GREAT in-car laps of a tasty-FAST TR4 at NurBurGring FLAT out. > >The squealing drifts are wonderful! (and note the leather helmet and >goggles!) > >enjoy! (Paste it if it doesn't click) > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kystdfr1V6k&NR=1 > >Billy B. >E Ticket Triumphs > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Tony Drews >To: fot at autox.team.net >Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 6:18 am >Subject: [Fot] Edited Hallett Video on You Tube > > >I edited the race footage down to the 10 minute You Tube limit and put it >here: >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5uJLTLrXOk&feature=youtube_gdata > >Used Windows Live Movie Maker to edit and post it, I think the quality came >out very nice. > >Cheers, Tony Drews >Fot at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > >Fot at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From mpendy at dishmail.net Wed Nov 4 20:10:10 2009 From: mpendy at dishmail.net (Mark Pendergrass) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:10:10 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Deiter's TR4 at Nurburging flat out! Wild! References: <20091027131853.56AC918764B@autox.team.net> <8CC2BC5F6EFD383-3670-6CFF@webmail-d044.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <81C4EE9723DC4AB6B962A518B802E65E@Pendys> Think he's not pulling some serious "G" forces? look at the keys and key fob when he's in the curves. Mark Pendy ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Deiter's TR4 at Nurburging flat out! Wild! > Godo stuff Tony! > > This is a link to one of my favs .... made me pucker more than a bit.... > > I have parts in Deiter's car so this was his 5 minute send off! > > GREAT in-car laps of a tasty-FAST TR4 at NurBurGring FLAT out. > > The squealing drifts are wonderful! (and note the leather helmet and > goggles!) > > enjoy! (Paste it if it doesn't click) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kystdfr1V6k&NR=1 > > Billy B. > E Ticket Triumphs > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Drews > To: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 6:18 am > Subject: [Fot] Edited Hallett Video on You Tube > > > I edited the race footage down to the 10 minute You Tube limit and put it > here: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5uJLTLrXOk&feature=youtube_gdata > > Used Windows Live Movie Maker to edit and post it, I think the quality > came > out very nice. > > Cheers, Tony Drews > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From billb at bnj.com Wed Nov 4 20:48:56 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:48:56 -0800 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <5471F5497DFE487BA1CCC843EC210A0E@joepentiumnew> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> <5471F5497DFE487BA1CCC843EC210A0E@joepentiumnew> Message-ID: <2B4FC054-39B9-44E5-A237-B42DD0D2B8AD@bnj.com> SVRA You don't have to do anything to the car. Just pay the entry fee. On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Joe Curry wrote: > If that is the case, maybe there Is hope for Tiny Tim in vintage > racing! :) > > Joe C. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Scott Janzen > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:33 AM > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com > > some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so > far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing > that they can compete in vintage anywhere. > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: > > Here's a pretty interesting resource.. > http://www.britishracecar.com/ > > It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar > with and > there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. > > Bob > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From spitlist at cox.net Wed Nov 4 20:58:23 2009 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:58:23 -0700 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <2B4FC054-39B9-44E5-A237-B42DD0D2B8AD@bnj.com> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> <5471F5497DFE487BA1CCC843EC210A0E@joepentiumnew> <2B4FC054-39B9-44E5-A237-B42DD0D2B8AD@bnj.com> Message-ID: I am sure that there sre some mandatory safety things that are required, right? Since I retired the car from serious autocross action, it has been returned to street legal trim. The once SCCA legal rollbar has been cut down to fit under the hardtop and a Plastic 16 gallon fuel cell has been installed. I doubt that will pass muster. Joe C. -----Original Message----- From: Bill Babcock [mailto:billb at bnj.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:49 PM To: Joe Curry Cc: 'Scott Janzen'; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com SVRA You don't have to do anything to the car. Just pay the entry fee. On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Joe Curry wrote: > If that is the case, maybe there Is hope for Tiny Tim in vintage > racing! :) > > Joe C. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Scott Janzen > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:33 AM > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com > > some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so > far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing > that they can compete in vintage anywhere. > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: > > Here's a pretty interesting resource.. > http://www.britishracecar.com/ > > It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar > with and > there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. > > Bob > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From adams910 at gmail.com Wed Nov 4 22:00:55 2009 From: adams910 at gmail.com (Bob Adams) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:00:55 -0500 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <2B4FC054-39B9-44E5-A237-B42DD0D2B8AD@bnj.com> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> <5471F5497DFE487BA1CCC843EC210A0E@joepentiumnew> <2B4FC054-39B9-44E5-A237-B42DD0D2B8AD@bnj.com> Message-ID: <673993c50911042100r36d5665aw2a08ac6c23d96b57@mail.gmail.com> Disagree Bill. They tech cars and have disqualified people for illegal modifications (happened this past Sept. to an MGB). SVRA weighs the top cars from time to time as well. Bob From fasttrs at mindspring.com Thu Nov 5 06:04:16 2009 From: fasttrs at mindspring.com (Mike Munson) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 07:04:16 -0600 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <2B4FC054-39B9-44E5-A237-B42DD0D2B8AD@bnj.com> Message-ID: Just don't pass any Porsche. They frown on that if you are in a lowly Triumph. Mike -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Babcock Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:49 PM To: Joe Curry Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com SVRA You don't have to do anything to the car. Just pay the entry fee. On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Joe Curry wrote: > If that is the case, maybe there Is hope for Tiny Tim in vintage > racing! :) > > Joe C. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Scott Janzen > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:33 AM > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com > > some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so > far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing > that they can compete in vintage anywhere. > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: > > Here's a pretty interesting resource.. > http://www.britishracecar.com/ > > It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar > with and > there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. > > Bob > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: 270.14.50/2481 - Release Date: 11/04/09 19:51:00 From John.Reed at wilson.com Thu Nov 5 06:52:42 2009 From: John.Reed at wilson.com (John Reed) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:52:42 -0600 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <2B4FC054-39B9-44E5-A237-B42DD0D2B8AD@bnj.com> Message-ID: Bill, Maybe your thinking of HSR. SVRA not only weighs cars, they have weight penalties for things like no fan, generator.... John On 11/4/09 9:48 PM, "Bill Babcock" wrote: > SVRA > > You don't have to do anything to the car. Just pay the entry fee. > On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Joe Curry wrote: > >> If that is the case, maybe there Is hope for Tiny Tim in vintage >> racing! :) >> >> Joe C. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] >> On >> Behalf Of Scott Janzen >> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:33 AM >> Cc: fot at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com >> >> some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so >> far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing >> that they can compete in vintage anywhere. >> >> On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: >> >> Here's a pretty interesting resource.. >> http://www.britishracecar.com/ >> >> It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar >> with and >> there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. >> >> Bob >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Regards, John Reed Global Staff Photographer Creative Services Wilson Sporting Goods Co. 8750 W Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago, Illinois 60631, USA Tel. + 1.773.714.6895, fax +1.773.714.4585 John.Reed at wilson.com www.wilson.com www.amersports.com This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. From jsnook at wcnet.org Thu Nov 5 07:07:21 2009 From: jsnook at wcnet.org (Jeff Snook) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:07:21 -0500 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004b01ca5e21$4b268db0$e173a910$@org> Curtis, the guy who is putting this site together approached me at Watkins Glen this past September. I had not heard of it before then. He took a zillion photos of my Lotus and spent a lot of time asking questions. Plus we have had subsequent email Q/A sessions. He really does a lot of research on each car and spends a lot of time on all the little details. Pretty amazing he is doing this pretty much on his own dime!! My TR3 will be featured soon, so we will off-set some of the MG bias on his site!! Jeff Snook http://www.snooksdreamcars.com From billb at bnj.com Thu Nov 5 08:12:00 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 07:12:00 -0800 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You're right, I am. On Nov 5, 2009, at 5:52 AM, John Reed wrote: > Bill, > Maybe your thinking of HSR. > SVRA not only weighs cars, they have weight penalties for things > like no > fan, generator.... > > > John > > > On 11/4/09 9:48 PM, "Bill Babcock" wrote: > >> SVRA >> >> You don't have to do anything to the car. Just pay the entry fee. >> On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Joe Curry wrote: >> >>> If that is the case, maybe there Is hope for Tiny Tim in vintage >>> racing! :) >>> >>> Joe C. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Scott Janzen >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:33 AM >>> Cc: fot at autox.team.net >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com >>> >>> some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, >>> so >>> far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing >>> that they can compete in vintage anywhere. >>> >>> On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: >>> >>> Here's a pretty interesting resource.. >>> http://www.britishracecar.com/ >>> >>> It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar >>> with and >>> there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. >>> >>> Bob >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>> >>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>> >>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>> >>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > Regards, > John Reed > Global Staff Photographer > Creative Services > > Wilson Sporting Goods Co. > 8750 W Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago, Illinois 60631, USA > Tel. + 1.773.714.6895, fax +1.773.714.4585 > > John.Reed at wilson.com www.wilson.com www.amersports.com > > > > > This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. > If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail > in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e- > mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the > material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. From budscars at comcast.net Thu Nov 5 15:40:44 2009 From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:40:44 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR3 TRANNY COVER WANTED Message-ID: Hi Gang..TRANNY COVER NEEDED FOR 56 TR3...email John Slack in sonoma, ca at johneslack at att.com Racer Bud From tr4racing at googlemail.com Thu Nov 5 15:50:46 2009 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 23:50:46 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Deiter's TR4 at Nurburging flat out! Wild! In-Reply-To: <8CC2BC5F6EFD383-3670-6CFF@webmail-d044.sysops.aol.com> References: <20091027131853.56AC918764B@autox.team.net> <8CC2BC5F6EFD383-3670-6CFF@webmail-d044.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <001701ca5e6a$6cd0fba0$4672f2e0$@com> Funny that this old clip is still one of the most seen. Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von trbilbo at aol.com Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. November 2009 01:28 An: tony at tonydrews.com; fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Deiter's TR4 at Nurburging flat out! Wild! ........ GREAT in-car laps of a tasty-FAST TR4 at NurBurGring FLAT out. The squealing drifts are wonderful! (and note the leather helmet and goggles!) enjoy! (Paste it if it doesn't click) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kystdfr1V6k&NR=1 Billy B. E Ticket Triumphs -----Original Message----- From: Tony Drews To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 6:18 am Subject: [Fot] Edited Hallett Video on You Tube I edited the race footage down to the 10 minute You Tube limit and put it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5uJLTLrXOk&feature=youtube_gdata Used Windows Live Movie Maker to edit and post it, I think the quality came out very nice. Cheers, Tony Drews Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From norlinengineering at comcast.net Sun Nov 8 10:42:40 2009 From: norlinengineering at comcast.net (Norlin Engineering) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 09:42:40 -0800 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: What's really fun is passing Porsche's on the outside - Geez I sure love how the Spitfire handles! :) -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Munson Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 5:04 AM To: 'Bill Babcock'; 'Joe Curry' Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com Just don't pass any Porsche. They frown on that if you are in a lowly Triumph. Mike -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Babcock Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:49 PM To: Joe Curry Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com SVRA You don't have to do anything to the car. Just pay the entry fee. On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Joe Curry wrote: > If that is the case, maybe there Is hope for Tiny Tim in vintage > racing! :) > > Joe C. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Scott Janzen > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:33 AM > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com > > some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so > far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing > that they can compete in vintage anywhere. > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: > > Here's a pretty interesting resource.. http://www.britishracecar.com/ > > It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar > with and there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. > > Bob > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: 270.14.50/2481 - Release Date: 11/04/09 19:51:00 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From gaf3 at charter.net Tue Nov 10 05:17:46 2009 From: gaf3 at charter.net (Glenn Franco) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:17:46 -0500 Subject: [Fot] DOOR HARDWARE NEEDED FOR 74 TR6 Message-ID: <4AF959EA.80402@charter.net> Group Does anyone out there have a remote control release rod for the left door of a TR6 1973 or later? This is the rod and mechanism the runs from the door latch to the inside door release handle. It has an upward bend to clear the door pull in the center of the door. I need to buy one of these to wrap up my restoration on my 74 autocrosser or fast road car. The big three in the US and Rimmer have no stock. Thanks in advance Glenn Franco 71 and 74 TR6 and spit racer From gaf3 at charter.net Tue Nov 10 07:54:30 2009 From: gaf3 at charter.net (Glenn Franco) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:54:30 -0500 Subject: [Fot] DOOR HARDWARE NEEDED FOR 74 TR6 In-Reply-To: <4AF959EA.80402@charter.net> References: <4AF959EA.80402@charter.net> Message-ID: <4AF97EA6.8070007@charter.net> Sorry to bomb the list but, Scott Harper, Team Triumph, had one and it's on its way. Thanks that was fast. Glenn Glenn Franco wrote: > Group > Does anyone out there have a remote control release rod for the left > door of a TR6 1973 or later? > This is the rod and mechanism the runs from the door latch to the > inside door release handle. > It has an upward bend to clear the door pull in the center of the door. > > I need to buy one of these to wrap up my restoration on my 74 > autocrosser or fast road car. > The big three in the US and Rimmer have no stock. > > Thanks in advance > Glenn Franco > 71 and 74 TR6 and spit racer > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gaf3 at charter.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as gaf3 at charter.net From horizonracing at msn.com Tue Nov 10 15:16:45 2009 From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:16:45 -0800 Subject: [Fot] wiper arm ID Message-ID: FOT'ers, I trying to ID a wiper arm of a Ferrari 275 GTB. YES, believe it! they used Lucas parts on these things. Must be pay back ! :) O/All length is at 13 1/4 width @ pivot pin is 3/4 The outside Diameter of the piece that goes over the "wheel" is also approx. 3/4 These arms might be off a TR 6 ? or 250 Thank you to all Tony Garmey From vintage.racer at comcast.net Tue Nov 10 18:43:34 2009 From: vintage.racer at comcast.net (Gary Horstkorta) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:43:34 -0800 Subject: [Fot] New Vintage Race Organization Message-ID: <001a01ca6270$63eebd10$2bcc3730$@racer@comcast.net> I heard rumors of a new group with Bobby Rahal involved at this year's Monterey Historics. The rumors were accurate, check out http://www.hmpseries.com/aboutUs.cfm. Gary From adams910 at gmail.com Tue Nov 10 20:53:03 2009 From: adams910 at gmail.com (Bob Adams) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:53:03 -0500 Subject: [Fot] New Vintage Race Organization In-Reply-To: <5087355178326783589@unknownmsgid> References: <5087355178326783589@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <673993c50911101953q616a1863vb0da3dcbfd53bd80@mail.gmail.com> They also took the HSR date for Watkins Glen in June. Bob Adams On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Gary Horstkorta wrote: > I heard rumors of a new group with Bobby Rahal involved at this year's > Monterey Historics. The rumors were accurate, check out > http://www.hmpseries.com/aboutUs.cfm. > > > > Gary > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as adams910 at gmail.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as adams910 at gmail.com From ablake2 at austin.rr.com Tue Nov 10 23:15:52 2009 From: ablake2 at austin.rr.com (Greg & Alison Blake) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:15:52 -0600 Subject: [Fot] TWS this weekend Message-ID: <000701ca6296$6bd6dbe0$6401a8c0@blake1> Just checking to see who will be at TWS this weekend. Greg From tarch at bellsouth.net Wed Nov 11 08:12:27 2009 From: tarch at bellsouth.net (Richard Taylor) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:12:27 -0500 Subject: [Fot] For the Military In-Reply-To: <20091031041851.AB1CA187647@autox.team.net> References: <20091031041851.AB1CA187647@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <65576D8A5E0344F5BFEC7ABFEFBC6E22@richardiipc> David, An old soldier's lament..... I was discharged a half a century ago as a Korean War vet. Most of my 3 year duty, however, was Cold War stuff in Germany; practicing killing, not actually doing it. As a teenager I took Basic with the 101st Airborne and jump school with the 82nd. I too was Infantry. In those days this is where the Army put you if you couldn't pass any of their qualifying tests for high skilled schools. You know, schools like clerk-typist or cook or vehicle maintenance. The mid-fifties was the era of the old "brown gowns" (Ike Jackets) and M-1 Garands. Yes, I still have one each left in my closet. Highest rank held (briefly), Sgt; discharged Cpl.; evidence of a disquieting trend. The paratrooper songs in those days were "Beautiful streamer, open for me..." "There was blood upon the risers, there was brains upon his chute...." and "Gorey, gorey, what a helluva way to die..." These were sung more as ballads as opposed to the martial cadence of your attached version. However the Military Utube rendition still rings true to the soldier's need for invincibility. I salute that from the bottom of my heart. Now let me share a really random thought with the list. Years ago, when we hooked up to the static line in a thunderously loud C-119, Flying Boxcar, at 1200 msl slow flight, there was always the feeling of uncertainty, anxiety and apprehension. That in-your-gut feeling is the same one we feel on the starting grid at the track; very little difference. So maybe FOT needs a blood and guts race song. Back to the Utube video, I was disappointed that, presumably for political correctness, the George C. Scott clip of Patton's speech was censored for cultural epithets. Wussies!! And thank your brother from all of us for serving his Country. Richard Taylor Subject: [Fot] For the Military My Brother will be graduating from Army Basic this week and then he is off to Advanced Infantry School. For those on the list(s) that have a Military background I saw this song referenced on the Blackfive milblog today. iTunes proceeds go to a Military charity. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTs6a0ORdQU _______________________________________________ From dave at microworks.net Wed Nov 11 08:41:25 2009 From: dave at microworks.net (David W. Riddle) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:41:25 -0700 Subject: [Fot] For the Military In-Reply-To: <65576D8A5E0344F5BFEC7ABFEFBC6E22@richardiipc> References: <20091031041851.AB1CA187647@autox.team.net> <65576D8A5E0344F5BFEC7ABFEFBC6E22@richardiipc> Message-ID: <20091111154219.6653F187645@autox.team.net> Mike is home this week on leave before heading to Texas (Ft. Bliss) after getting his orders changed. He was slated to head to Korea but that would have put off deployment to Iraq/Afghanistan by at least a year. Mike wants to get in the action. His goal is SF. My Dad is a retired (1981) Army aviator. He flew Birddogs in Nam. My Step Brother Will is a firefighter in the Air Guard, My Cousin Scott is Army Intelligence (he had been an Army Integrator in Iraq and was wounded by an IED. Uncle Larry (Scott's Dad) is retired Air Force, Uncle Phil is retired Navy. I worked covert for the CIA in Korea back in the 80's and had been an Air Force Cadet and went on exchange with the Israeli Air Force back in 1981. Long Family history of Military Service. Grandpa was on Palmrya Island the morning of 12/7 while my Grandma was back at Pearl eight months pregnant with my Dad. Uncle Phil was 3 years old and got shot in the leg that morning as he stood in his crib when a bullet came through the roof of their House and passed over Grandma's shoulder as she was getting him dressed. Her sister's Husband, Uncle Mike, for whom my Brother Mike is named) was in the Oklahoma down on Battleship Row when she capsized. HE and Grandpa both survived WWII. The letter that Grandma wrote to my Great-grandma back in San Pedro, California the week after the attack is a beauty of understatement. http://www.riddlefamily.org/ghr1.htm At 08:12 AM 11/11/2009, Richard Taylor wrote: >David, > >An old soldier's lament..... > >I was discharged a half a century ago as a Korean War vet. Most of my 3 year >duty, however, was Cold War stuff in Germany; practicing killing, not >actually doing it. As a teenager I took Basic with the 101st Airborne and >jump school with the 82nd. I too was Infantry. In those days this is where >the Army put you if you couldn't pass any of their qualifying tests for high >skilled schools. You know, schools like clerk-typist or cook or vehicle >maintenance. > >The mid-fifties was the era of the old "brown gowns" (Ike Jackets) and M-1 >Garands. Yes, I still have one each left in my closet. Highest rank held >(briefly), Sgt; discharged Cpl.; evidence of a disquieting trend. > >The paratrooper songs in those days were "Beautiful streamer, open for >me..." "There was blood upon the risers, there was brains upon his >chute...." and "Gorey, gorey, what a helluva way to die..." These were sung >more as ballads as opposed to the martial cadence of your attached version. > >However the Military Utube rendition still rings true to the soldier's need >for invincibility. I salute that from the bottom of my heart. > >Now let me share a really random thought with the list. Years ago, when we >hooked up to the static line in a thunderously loud C-119, Flying Boxcar, at >1200 msl slow flight, there was always the feeling of uncertainty, anxiety >and apprehension. That in-your-gut feeling is the same one we feel on the >starting grid at the track; very little difference. So maybe FOT needs a >blood and guts race song. > >Back to the Utube video, I was disappointed that, presumably for political >correctness, the George C. Scott clip of Patton's speech was censored for >cultural epithets. Wussies!! > >And thank your brother from all of us for serving his Country. > >Richard Taylor > > >Subject: [Fot] For the Military > >My Brother will be graduating from Army Basic this week and then he >is off to Advanced Infantry School. For those on the list(s) that >have a Military background I saw this song referenced on the >Blackfive milblog today. iTunes proceeds go to a Military charity. > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTs6a0ORdQU >_______________________________________________ From charly at mitchelplumbing.com Wed Nov 11 15:25:52 2009 From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:25:52 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Car Hauling from texas Message-ID: <84A370F136A042A4BED46367431E5051@Charly> Amici, I've got a client looking at a TR4 located in Texas that we're trying to arrange hauling to Seattle Washington area. Is anybody traveling this direction with an empty trailer? There will be a bunch of spare parts going along with it as well. Thanks, Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 From charly at mitchelplumbing.com Wed Nov 11 15:48:01 2009 From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:48:01 -0800 Subject: [Fot] wiper arm ID References: Message-ID: <99B54A8F78654368A012D95F45724D76@Charly> Hey Tony, TR250 & TR4A are the same and TR6 uses about 3 different kind. Some are black on later cars and some are LHD or RHD. The TR6 is a little shorter than the 13.25 inches at about 12 inches. One side of the TR6 is also bent to be parallel to the lower windshield frame about 45 0. The other side is slightly bent but only a couple of degrees. I have a bunch of arms laying around and I can look through them. Is this arm straight or is it crooked as if in a LHD or RHD mount? Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony and Annie Garmey" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:16 PM Subject: [Fot] wiper arm ID > FOT'ers, > > I trying to ID a wiper arm of a Ferrari 275 GTB. YES, believe it! they > used > Lucas parts on these things. Must be pay back ! :) > > > > O/All length is at 13 1/4 > > width @ pivot pin is 3/4 > > The outside Diameter of the piece that goes over the "wheel" is also > approx. > 3/4 > > > > These arms might be off a TR 6 ? or 250 > > > > Thank you to all > > > > Tony Garmey > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as charly at mitchelplumbing.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as charly at mitchelplumbing.com From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net Wed Nov 11 20:01:36 2009 From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:01:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] TWS this weekend In-Reply-To: <000701ca6296$6bd6dbe0$6401a8c0@blake1> Message-ID: <160113.21733.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Joshua and I will be there taking in the vintage Indy car racing, though I'm not bringing the '39 champ car. I don't feel like hauling it 3 hours down and back just to show it off. -Ed- --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Greg & Alison Blake wrote: From: Greg & Alison Blake Subject: [Fot] TWS this weekend To: fot at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 12:15 AM Just checking to see who will be at TWS this weekend. Greg You are subscribed as edwardbarnard at prodigy.net http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as edwardbarnard at prodigy.net From markvaden at gmail.com Fri Nov 13 17:03:39 2009 From: markvaden at gmail.com (Mark Vaden) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:03:39 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Videos and pictures Message-ID: <285b8a860911131603r79b405d1m7453cd9e364d677f@mail.gmail.com> Hi Everyone, I finally updated our racing web page, and added some more videos, as well as photos. Check it out: http://www.britishheritagemotorsports.com/TriHard_Racing.html. There are links across the top of the page for photos and videos. -Mark From markvaden at gmail.com Sat Nov 14 10:13:12 2009 From: markvaden at gmail.com (Mark Vaden) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:13:12 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: [TR] Videos and pictures In-Reply-To: <1959608342.236425.1258160238648.JavaMail.root@vms244.mailsrvcs.net> References: <1959608342.236425.1258160238648.JavaMail.root@vms244.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <285b8a860911140913g1d910570q27ad42200f594108@mail.gmail.com> Oops added a period to the end of the line. Here is the link without the period: http://www.britishheritagemotorsports.com/TriHard_Racing.html ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Date: Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [TR] Videos and pictures To: markvaden at gmail.com Might want to take the period off the end, it returns a 404 error with it on. On Nov 13, 2009, Mark Vaden wrote: Hi Everyone, I finally updated our racing web page, and added some more videos, as well as photos. Check it out: http://www.britishheritagemotorsports.com/TriHard_Racing.html. There are links across the top of the page for photos and videos. -Mark This list supported in part by the Vintage Triumph Register http://www.vtr.org Triumphs at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive From bownes at seiri.com Sat Nov 14 18:52:48 2009 From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:52:48 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Not quite TR related Message-ID: Well, maybe distantly... The garage where I built my first Spitfire race car is going to go under the wrecking ball/foreclosure after the owner recently passed on. It has a large inventory of NOS VW parts in the back. His family has asked myself and a few of the other 'old guard' to see what we can salvage from the facility to help them out. What I really need is the VW equivalent of Ted Shumacher. Anyone know someone who might be interested in picking up a garage load of NOS spares and other parts? Most of the spares are engine bits, but we stumbled on 5 boxes of very early Bus/Beetle glass headlight covers still in the original wrapping paper and a few boxes of bearings old enough to be labeled 'Auto-Union'. Alas, my TR250 engine is buried behind the rearmost Transporter and is gonna have to be just about the last thing out of the building. So it goes. Thanks, Bob From rikrock at aol.com Sun Nov 15 05:12:22 2009 From: rikrock at aol.com (rikrock at aol.com) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:12:22 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 3.45 : 1 Ring and Pinion For Sale Message-ID: <8CC34040572364D-7038-22D1@webmail-d027.sysops.aol.com> Fits the big TR (TR3-6). In good used condition, from one of my TVR's. $150 or trade for 4.1 gears? Rich Rock Pottstown, Pa From malaboge at aol.com Sun Nov 15 15:36:09 2009 From: malaboge at aol.com (malaboge at aol.com) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:36:09 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Brake Adapters Message-ID: <8CC345B293D06F0-5090-9A60@webmail-d085.sysops.aol.com> Fellow shop rats- Ok you caught me...i'm workin on a non-TR...but at least it has a bunch-o-TR stuff on it. When it wouldn't move anymore cause the brakes were rusted tight, a helpful soul removed the calipers so that it could roll. He dutifully threw the calipers in the trunk, but evidently in his zeal, he removed the brake caliper adapters as well. No prob except they didn't end up in the trunk, and now as I attempt a reconstruction of this little beauty, I do not have the adapters. I fished several out of the pile-o-parts in the shop, but none are right. It would appear that they are GT6 style adapters...they are "round" where they bolt to the upright (the GT6 size upright) and take the larger 16P caliper (like a tr4). Anyone have a set they would care to sell to the cause? And yes, those are the breaks.... Nick in Nor Cal From horizonracing at msn.com Sun Nov 15 18:03:19 2009 From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:03:19 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Brake Adapters In-Reply-To: <8CC345B293D06F0-5090-9A60@webmail-d085.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC345B293D06F0-5090-9A60@webmail-d085.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Nick, What car do you Have?? but to help you with Brake caliper mounts, What uprights do you have? I just had a few Alloy Caliper mounts cast for the TR4 and Dave Bean Eng. has alloy mounts for the spitfire to Girling AR or TR 4 calipers. Good Luck Tony > To: fot at autox.team.net; vintage-race at autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:36:09 -0500 > From: malaboge at aol.com > Subject: [Fot] Brake Adapters > > Fellow shop rats- > > > Ok you caught me...i'm workin on a non-TR...but at least it has a bunch-o-TR > stuff on it. When it wouldn't move anymore cause the brakes were rusted > tight, a helpful soul removed the calipers so that it could roll. He > dutifully threw the calipers in the trunk, but evidently in his zeal, he > removed the brake caliper adapters as well. No prob except they didn't end up > in the trunk, and now as I attempt a reconstruction of this little beauty, I > do not have the adapters. I fished several out of the pile-o-parts in the > shop, but none are right. It would appear that they are GT6 style > adapters...they are "round" where they bolt to the upright (the GT6 size > upright) and take the larger 16P caliper (like a tr4). > > > Anyone have a set they would care to sell to the cause? > > > And yes, those are the breaks.... > Nick in Nor Cal > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as horizonracing at msn.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as horizonracing at msn.com From tr4racing at googlemail.com Mon Nov 16 00:35:03 2009 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:35:03 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife In-Reply-To: <160113.21733.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <000701ca6296$6bd6dbe0$6401a8c0@blake1> <160113.21733.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001901ca668f$524e2550$f6ea6ff0$@com> This is what I try to achieve but probably never can reach. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBsBHEKOQKc Cheers Chris From tony at tonydrews.com Mon Nov 16 08:00:07 2009 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:00:07 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife In-Reply-To: <001901ca668f$524e2550$f6ea6ff0$@com> References: <000701ca6296$6bd6dbe0$6401a8c0@blake1> <160113.21733.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001901ca668f$524e2550$f6ea6ff0$@com> Message-ID: <20091116150034.3210C187643@autox.team.net> Wow! That was thrilling! What a way to get the blood pumping in the morning! I love Hans' commentary - he sounds so excited. "Oversteer! Oversteer!" Thanks for sharing. - Tony Drews At 01:35 AM 11/16/2009, MadMarx wrote: >This is what I try to achieve but probably never can reach. > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBsBHEKOQKc > > >Cheers >Chris From billb at bnj.com Mon Nov 16 09:04:24 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:04:24 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife In-Reply-To: <20091116150034.3210C187643@autox.team.net> References: <000701ca6296$6bd6dbe0$6401a8c0@blake1> <160113.21733.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001901ca668f$524e2550$f6ea6ff0$@com> <20091116150034.3210C187643@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <9CB0F7BA-FF48-4E16-AFC1-6875A4AD43BE@bnj.com> Really fun, watched it three times on my big screen. On Nov 16, 2009, at 7:00 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > Wow! That was thrilling! What a way to get the blood pumping in > the morning! I love Hans' commentary - he sounds so excited. > "Oversteer! Oversteer!" Thanks for sharing. > > - Tony Drews > > At 01:35 AM 11/16/2009, MadMarx wrote: >> This is what I try to achieve but probably never can reach. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBsBHEKOQKc >> >> >> Cheers >> Chris > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com From cartravel at pobox.com Mon Nov 16 13:50:20 2009 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:50:20 -0600 Subject: [Fot] TR3/4 Performance Camshafts - commercial message Message-ID: <4B01BB0C.4030509@pobox.com> I am getting together an order of camshafts for the TR3/4. I now have 4 different grinds, including a high performance street cam and three different racing cams. Complete specs along with those of other TR3/4 cams are listed at my website (link below). If you think you might need one of these within the next few months, you should get in on this group order. I have purchased a small batch of new chilled cast iron blanks, so I can grind the cam on a new blank or regrind a stock cam. The advantage of using a new blank is that the diameter of front half will be about 1/8 inch larger, i.e. stiffer and stronger. I believe I have finally found a grinder that does a good job at a reasonable price. He has some of the best CNC equipment available. CNC is nice because I can do a new grind without the up front cost to make a master. I've also got my Cam Doctor up and running and have now profiled a number of TR3/4 racing cams. I would like to profile some of the Kastner cams, because 0.050 numbers are not available for them. I also plan to start profiling cams for the 6 cylinder motors, e.g. TR5 cam. If you would like to loan me some interesting cams for profiling, please let me know. I will gladly share any information I get. Larry Young www.TildenTechnologies.com From GRMTim at aol.com Mon Nov 16 18:18:42 2009 From: GRMTim at aol.com (GRMTim at aol.com) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:18:42 EST Subject: [Fot] Your next project awaits... Message-ID: When the car count around here hit 20 and I told my wife we needed an Edsel wagon to tow the Group 44 GT6 around, she gently suggested (okay, perhaps it was less than gentle) that if I wanted to buy anything else, I need to clean up around here. To that end, I have thrown a Spitfire race car project on eBay, along with the beginnings of a Spit Six project. Next to go on eBay, if none of you want it... I also have our original Grassroots Motorsports 1500 Spitfire project car (Cover July 92 issue). It is a little worse for wear, but a Chimney Rock Hill climb, VTR national convention Solo I and SCCA Solo II Nats veteran. $1200 buys it with another 1500 parts car with everything needed. Includes JK Jackson built DSP legal engine, twin Weber DCOE 40s, Steve Eckerich limited slip dif, GT6 brakes and spindles, comp springs, roll bar, rebuilt trans, etc. etc. Also have a good 1.6 liter Miata engine if anyone wants to attempt a crazy swap. Engine has 60,000 miles on it and can be had for $500 obo. Also, we plan on bringing the Group 44 GT6+ to Sebring HSR event to lead the British car crowd around the track at lunch on Saturday. Tim Suddard Publisher; Classic Motorsports and Grassroots Motorsports magazines www.classicmotorsports.net www.grassrootsmotorsports.com Phone: (386) 673-4148 Fax: (386) 673-6040 From 19to1tr6 at comcast.net Thu Nov 19 19:48:50 2009 From: 19to1tr6 at comcast.net (Rob) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:48:50 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife In-Reply-To: <001901ca668f$524e2550$f6ea6ff0$@com> References: <000701ca6296$6bd6dbe0$6401a8c0@blake1><160113.21733.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001901ca668f$524e2550$f6ea6ff0$@com> Message-ID: Great Isn't he the man that said "put your eyes were you want to go and your hands will take you there" ----- Original Message ----- From: "MadMarx" To: Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:35 AM Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife > This is what I try to achieve but probably never can reach. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBsBHEKOQKc > > > Cheers > Chris > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net From triosan at gmail.com Mon Nov 16 21:28:26 2009 From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:28:26 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife In-Reply-To: References: <000701ca6296$6bd6dbe0$6401a8c0@blake1> <160113.21733.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001901ca668f$524e2550$f6ea6ff0$@com> Message-ID: <8cbd782d0911162028o67c560e7x441ca4a02e1f74a2@mail.gmail.com> Wow--watched it a couple of times--the second one just watching hands and shifting. So smoooooth --looks like he is barely turning the wheel --even on big fast corners. Quite a driver! quite a car [but then so were some of those Porsches he passed like they were almost still]. On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Rob <19to1tr6 at comcast.net> wrote: > Great Isn't he the man that said "put your eyes were you want to go and > your hands will take you there" > ----- Original Message ----- From: "MadMarx" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:35 AM > Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife > > >> This is what I try to achieve but probably never can reach. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBsBHEKOQKc >> >> >> Cheers >> Chris >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> >> >> You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com > -- Chuck Arnold From tr4racing at googlemail.com Tue Nov 17 03:44:13 2009 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:44:13 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife In-Reply-To: <8cbd782d0911162028o67c560e7x441ca4a02e1f74a2@mail.gmail.com> References: <000701ca6296$6bd6dbe0$6401a8c0@blake1> <160113.21733.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001901ca668f$524e2550$f6ea6ff0$@com> <8cbd782d0911162028o67c560e7x441ca4a02e1f74a2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001801ca6772$e83fabe0$b8bf03a0$@com> That year of the Video he won the 24 H race on the Nordschleife and was 57 years old. -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Chuck Arnold [mailto:triosan at gmail.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. November 2009 05:28 An: Rob Cc: MadMarx; fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife Wow--watched it a couple of times--the second one just watching hands and shifting. So smoooooth --looks like he is barely turning the wheel --even on big fast corners. Quite a driver! quite a car [but then so were some of those Porsches he passed like they were almost still]. On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Rob <19to1tr6 at comcast.net> wrote: > Great Isn't he the man that said "put your eyes were you want to go and > your hands will take you there" > ----- Original Message ----- From: "MadMarx" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:35 AM > Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife > > >> This is what I try to achieve but probably never can reach. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBsBHEKOQKc >> >> >> Cheers >> Chris >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> >> >> You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com > -- Chuck Arnold From 58tr3a at videotron.ca Tue Nov 17 07:40:02 2009 From: 58tr3a at videotron.ca (Don Elliott) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:40:02 -0500 Subject: [Fot] New Book due out May 2010 Message-ID: <5FA8A5CC6D7E486FA32F4623DFA70B8F@elliott7455dae> Northeast American Sports Car Races 1950-1959 http://www.veloce.co.uk/shop/products/productDetail.php?prod_id=V4254&prod_group=Motorsport&PHPSESSID=dc6f356faaa24492f2a3fb22ef2e704b From adams910 at gmail.com Tue Nov 17 08:09:55 2009 From: adams910 at gmail.com (Bob Adams) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:09:55 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife In-Reply-To: <001801ca6772$e83fabe0$b8bf03a0$@com> References: <000701ca6296$6bd6dbe0$6401a8c0@blake1> <160113.21733.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001901ca668f$524e2550$f6ea6ff0$@com> <8cbd782d0911162028o67c560e7x441ca4a02e1f74a2@mail.gmail.com> <001801ca6772$e83fabe0$b8bf03a0$@com> Message-ID: <673993c50911170709j4565c470jf596d5f14829041b@mail.gmail.com> Here is another good one from the 'Ring, in a much slower car (a pre-production S2000) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmEmHDimeH8 The driver, Motoharu "Gan San" Kurosawa is an old Nissan factory driver from the 1960's and '70's. I think he was 59 or so when that was filmed. Bob Adams From malaboge at aol.com Tue Nov 17 16:26:54 2009 From: malaboge at aol.com (malaboge at aol.com) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:26:54 -0500 Subject: [Fot] [Vintage-race] Brake Adapters In-Reply-To: <4785996B12C6453E99212D930C26468C@MATE1> References: <8CC345B293D06F0-5090-9A60@webmail-d085.sysops.aol.com> <4785996B12C6453E99212D930C26468C@MATE1> Message-ID: <8CC35F495151F70-9810-9D5@webmail-m003.sysops.aol.com> Kerry...and all you other inquisitive types... Well yeah I'm buildin up a non TR...it has many TR pieces on it (like most of the front end is GT6...including the normally bolted on GT suspension towers, which are welded to this chassis). It also has more than a few components from "that other" bastion of British busted knuckles...you know the one with the nifty motto...Safety Fast. I've got years of British iron piled around the scatter here and try as I might, none of the piles I delved into contained the adapters I need. I actually had to dismantle one of the TVR's here in the shop to make sure I wasn't goin crazy (no comments needed here) and that these adapters existed. Yes, they are the same as a pre-M TVR setup...like there's a lot-o-them around! I actually found several which looked right, but were for the smaller Girling calipers...the ole "close but no cigar" that usually accompanies most of my quests. Ted S sez he has some, so I can hopefully obtain a couple from him and get on with the long suffering resurrection of this Elva Courier MK IV irs car...yeah its gonna be a racer too! Too many projects an runnin out of tyme... Nick in Nor Cal -----Original Message----- From: KBS To: malaboge at aol.com Sent: Mon, Nov 16, 2009 4:25 am Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] Brake Adapters Now you have us guessing! TVR? Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 5:36 PM Subject: [Vintage-race] Brake Adapters > Fellow shop rats- > > > Ok you caught me...i'm workin on a non-TR...but at least it has a > bunch-o-TR > stuff on it. When it wouldn't move anymore cause the brakes were rusted > tight, a helpful soul removed the calipers so that it could roll. He > dutifully threw the calipers in the trunk, but evidently in his zeal, he > removed the brake caliper adapters as well. No prob except they didn't > end up > in the trunk, and now as I attempt a reconstruction of this little beauty, > I > do not have the adapters. I fished several out of the pile-o-parts in the > shop, but none are right. It would appear that they are GT6 style > adapters...they are "round" where they bolt to the upright (the GT6 size > upright) and take the larger 16P caliper (like a tr4). > > > Anyone have a set they would care to sell to the cause? > > > And yes, those are the breaks.... > Nick in Nor Cal > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as racecar at baltimoreknife.com > > Vintage-race at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-race From spitfiresuz at 141.com Tue Nov 17 18:12:27 2009 From: spitfiresuz at 141.com (Susan Kahler) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:12:27 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Non-LBC: Veyron vs. Lake. Who Wins? Message-ID: <4B0349FB.9020907@141.com> Hi all, I saw this today and just had to share it. Sad!!! But it's awesome it was caught on video! http://www.automoblog.net/2009/11/16/bugatti-veyron-crashes-into-lake/ But, while looking into it, I also found this link, which was pretty cool and more than made up for the above idiocy: http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3300.asp?id=14253 Keep Triumphing! Susan :) -- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationary. From mark at bradakis.com Tue Nov 17 18:47:56 2009 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:47:56 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Non-LBC: Veyron vs. Lake. Who Wins? In-Reply-To: <4B0349FB.9020907@141.com> References: <4B0349FB.9020907@141.com> Message-ID: <4B03524C.5040907@bradakis.com> Awww, poor fellow dropped his cell phone and wrecked his car. Sheesh. Speaking of idiots, I've had to deal with a couple the last few days. I'm trying to sell my clapped out piece of crap 1985 Nissan pickup for $275. It is running and driveable. I'm amazed, though, at the number of folks who see an ad that says stuff like "rusty, rough, needs work" and think it must be a clean one owner in showroom condition. Do these bozons really have no idea what a $275 vehicle might look like? I'm going to rerun the cragslist ad tomorrow after I get some more photos. I have an idea... Actually I did get a nice surprise, a nice check from someone on the TR list to support Team.Net. That helped make it a more pleasant day. mjb. From j.wags63 at yahoo.com Tue Nov 17 20:56:12 2009 From: j.wags63 at yahoo.com (John Wagner) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:56:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] TR 2-3-4 block info Message-ID: <870215.35620.qm@web59504.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Can someone tell me the stock block height of our favorite little tractor engine? Just the wrench John Wagner From lfritz82 at hotmail.com Tue Nov 17 21:42:44 2009 From: lfritz82 at hotmail.com (Lorne Fritz) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:42:44 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR6 distributor Message-ID: Has anyone on the list had problems with TR6 distributors. About once a year I get a TR6 in the shop that doesn't run smooth. By this I mean at crusing speed it has a slight miss or pulsation. Under load it seems ok. I have changed distributors and it will get better of worse but I can't seem to eliminate it. Also does anyone _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ From spitlist at cox.net Tue Nov 17 23:54:39 2009 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:54:39 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Non-LBC: Veyron vs. Lake. Who Wins? In-Reply-To: <4B0349FB.9020907@141.com> References: <4B0349FB.9020907@141.com> Message-ID: That's FUNNY! Anyone who pays One and a quarter Million Dollars for a car can drive it anywhere he wants! Joe. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Susan Kahler Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 6:12 PM To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Non-LBC: Veyron vs. Lake. Who Wins? Hi all, I saw this today and just had to share it. Sad!!! But it's awesome it was caught on video! http://www.automoblog.net/2009/11/16/bugatti-veyron-crashes-into-lake/ But, while looking into it, I also found this link, which was pretty cool and more than made up for the above idiocy: http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3300.asp?id=14253 Keep Triumphing! Susan :) -- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationary. You are subscribed as spitlist at cox.net http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as spitlist at cox.net From mdporter at dfn.com Wed Nov 18 00:16:23 2009 From: mdporter at dfn.com (Michael Porter) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:16:23 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Non-LBC: Veyron vs. Lake. Who Wins? In-Reply-To: References: <4B0349FB.9020907@141.com> Message-ID: <4B039F47.50805@dfn.com> Joe Curry wrote: > That's FUNNY! Anyone who pays One and a quarter Million Dollars for a car > can drive it anywhere he wants! > > > Hmm. I guess I'm too late to the fair. The YouTube notice says that the item has been removed due to a copyright claim by a Joe M. Garza. But, hey, a fool and his money are soon parted, and whatever. :) Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... From spitfiresuz at 141.com Wed Nov 18 03:50:15 2009 From: spitfiresuz at 141.com (Susan Kahler) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:50:15 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Non-LBC: Veyron vs. Lake. Who Wins? In-Reply-To: <4B039F47.50805@dfn.com> References: <4B0349FB.9020907@141.com> <4B039F47.50805@dfn.com> Message-ID: <4B03D167.900@141.com> From spitfiresuz at 141.com Wed Nov 18 03:56:01 2009 From: spitfiresuz at 141.com (Susan Kahler) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:56:01 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Non-LBC: Veyron vs. Lake. Who Wins? In-Reply-To: <4B039F47.50805@dfn.com> References: <4B0349FB.9020907@141.com> <4B039F47.50805@dfn.com> Message-ID: <4B03D2C1.4080700@141.com> Here's a working video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NJmB1F2mdE Susan :) Michael Porter wrote: > Hmm. I guess I'm too late to the fair. The YouTube notice says that > the item has been removed due to a copyright claim by a Joe M. Garza. > > > But, hey, a fool and his money are soon parted, and whatever. :) > > > Cheers. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.148 / Virus Database: 270.14.71/2510 - Release Date: 11/17/2009 7:26 PM > -- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationary. From jaboruch at netzero.net Wed Nov 18 16:17:34 2009 From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:17:34 GMT Subject: [Fot] Non-LBC: Veyron vs. Lake. Who Wins? Message-ID: <20091118.181734.9003.2@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Speaking of fools and their expensive cars, I was working in Greenville, SC this week and it was on the local news about a businessman that only got 3 years probation for motor vehicle homicide. Apparently he was driving his Maserati at speeds over 100 mph when it left the road, crossed a field, hit an embankment and was launched it into a house. The poor home owner was asleep in front of his TV in the family room at the back of his house when the car came crashing thru, killing the guy. I guess watching TV really is bad for us. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Susan Kahler To: Michael Porter Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Non-LBC: Veyron vs. Lake. Who Wins? Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:56:01 -0500 Here's a working video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NJmB1F2mdE Susan :) ____________________________________________________________ Culinary Arts Schools Earn your Culinary Degree at a college near you. Get info and apply! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/c?cp=ytbFGko2BgjyQOb2sx4J7wAAJz6U 0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAJqZmT4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABNlkgAAAAA= From tony at tonydrews.com Wed Nov 18 21:40:38 2009 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:40:38 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Vintage cars webpage Message-ID: <20091119044056.BA17118765A@autox.team.net> /YWeRuK: Permission denied From lfritz82 at hotmail.com Wed Nov 18 21:53:50 2009 From: lfritz82 at hotmail.com (Lorne Fritz) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:53:50 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR6 dist Message-ID: I'm going to install a Pertronix and if that doesn't work I going to send it to Advanced. Thanks for the feedback, Lorne _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMT AGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 From j.wags63 at yahoo.com Thu Nov 19 07:10:48 2009 From: j.wags63 at yahoo.com (John Wagner) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:10:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] TR 2-3-4 block Message-ID: <423173.57995.qm@web59501.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> I am still looking for the factory block or deck height. The distance between the center of the main journal and the top of the block. John Wagner j.wags63 at yahoo.com From 58tr3a at videotron.ca Thu Nov 19 08:15:06 2009 From: 58tr3a at videotron.ca (Don Elliott) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:15:06 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR 2-3-4 block info References: <870215.35620.qm@web59504.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <50DABE82473E47538461229DBC4E1430@elliott7455dae> I went and measured a spare engine block that I have - with my vernier. It measures 13.38" from the flat bottom face of the block where the oil pan is secured to the top of the block with the head removed. Don Elliott, Original Owner, 1958 TR3A, Montreal ----------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wagner" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:56 PM Subject: [Fot] TR 2-3-4 block info > Can someone tell me the stock block height of our favorite little tractor > engine? > > Just the wrench > John Wagner > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as 58tr3a at videotron.ca > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as 58tr3a at videotron.ca From bkahler1 at gmail.com Thu Nov 19 15:37:29 2009 From: bkahler1 at gmail.com (Brad Kahler) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:37:29 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Door transportation needed Message-ID: <2B51F4D6-E99D-440D-B024-931DC0A1BFD0@gmail.com> Ok, this probably an odd request even for me:) I recently purchased two cushman truckster doors and they are currently located near Fredericksburg Va. Somehow I need to find a way to get them transported from Fredericksburg to somewhere near Richmond Ky. Any and all options will be appreciated! Thanks! Brad (Susan's chief mechanic) Sent from my iPhone From ofbracing at nefcom.net Thu Nov 19 15:52:26 2009 From: ofbracing at nefcom.net (ofbracing) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:52:26 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Door transportation needed In-Reply-To: <2B51F4D6-E99D-440D-B024-931DC0A1BFD0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <059B6C45762C48A8B22B64A3530341A3@Dell5100Laptop> That's an easy one. As I recall, Leo Oddi lives in or near Fredericksburg and I'm sure he will be happy to bring the doors with him to Roebling Road in a couple weeks. You can pick them up there while you race with us at the VDCA season finale and pig pickin. The Triumph Ghetto will be in full swing with free food and drink for all TR drivers and crews. Don -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Kahler Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:37 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Door transportation needed Ok, this probably an odd request even for me:) I recently purchased two cushman truckster doors and they are currently located near Fredericksburg Va. Somehow I need to find a way to get them transported from Fredericksburg to somewhere near Richmond Ky. Any and all options will be appreciated! Thanks! Brad (Susan's chief mechanic) Sent from my iPhone You are subscribed as ofbracing at nefcom.net http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as ofbracing at nefcom.net From walt at hot-tr6.com Thu Nov 19 22:38:52 2009 From: walt at hot-tr6.com (Walter Hollowell) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:38:52 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Car guy Christmas lights Message-ID: <20091120053907.6618A187656@autox.team.net> I finished a fun little project for my two car guy gransdons ages 3 and 5. I made up a string of Hot Wheels Christmas lights. These came out so nice I thought I would share this idea with my FOT friends. I used some LED mini Christmas lights because they don't get hot. I bought a 60 light string and inserted a Hot Wheel every third light. I bought a bunch of Hot Wheels and placed each one on my drill press and drilled a hole straight down through the center of the car and out the bottom. I use some clear silicone to secure the lights. When you plug the lights in the cars light up through the cockpit and look really cool . My grandkids got a big kick out of this and yours might also. Walt Hollowell Albuquerque, New Mexico _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter . We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 91397 of my spam emails to date. The Professional version does not have this message. From gt6steve at aol.com Fri Nov 20 10:46:30 2009 From: gt6steve at aol.com (gt6steve at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:46:30 -0500 Subject: [Fot] six cylinder timing chains Message-ID: <8CC382086C809AD-302C-1B94A@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com> Amici, Who's got the best timing chains for the TR6's? Do any of our usual suspects sell Renolds chains? Steve = From s.janzen at comcast.net Fri Nov 20 11:41:59 2009 From: s.janzen at comcast.net (Scott Janzen) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:41:59 -0500 Subject: [Fot] six cylinder timing chains In-Reply-To: <8CC382086C809AD-302C-1B94A@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC382086C809AD-302C-1B94A@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <9DA46DCD-9353-4AA7-B06A-D8712E0A1F07@comcast.net> Have you had trouble with breakage or are just trying to minimize stretch? I put an adjustable timing gear on a recent engine build, and it definitely came with a heavier chain than stock, though it fits on the stock crank gear. It was not "branded" that I recall. Pretty sure I got it at Aptfast. On Nov 20, 2009, at 12:46 PM, gt6steve at aol.com wrote: Amici, Who's got the best timing chains for the TR6's? Do any of our usual suspects sell Renolds chains? Steve = Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as s.janzen at comcast.net From gt6steve at aol.com Fri Nov 20 13:55:59 2009 From: gt6steve at aol.com (gt6steve at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:55:59 -0500 Subject: [Fot] six cylinder timing chains In-Reply-To: <9DA46DCD-9353-4AA7-B06A-D8712E0A1F07@comcast.net> References: <8CC382086C809AD-302C-1B94A@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com> <9DA46DCD-9353-4AA7-B06A-D8712E0A1F07@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8CC383AFF8BCCA3-2AF4-E779@webmail-d061.sysops.aol.com> Haven't had a problem, just trying to ensure I don't. Thanx for the links. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Scott Janzen To: gt6steve at aol.com Cc: FOT at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, Nov 20, 2009 10:41 am Subject: Re: [Fot] six cylinder timing chains Have you had trouble with breakage or are just trying to minimize tretch? I put an adjustable timing gear on a recent engine build, nd it definitely came with a heavier chain than stock, though it fits n the stock crank gear. It was not "branded" that I recall. Pretty ure I got it at Aptfast. On Nov 20, 2009, at 12:46 PM, gt6steve at aol.com wrote: Amici, Who's got the best timing chains for the TR6's? Do any of our usual uspects ell Renolds chains? Steve ot at autox.team.net ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. ou are subscribed as s.janzen at comcast.net You are subscribed as gt6steve at aol.com http://www.fot-racing.com ot at autox.team.net ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. ou are subscribed as gt6steve at aol.com From lang at isis.mit.edu Fri Nov 20 14:40:07 2009 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:40:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR Message-ID: Hi, I'm running a TR6 with pretty much a stock rear suspension that it "upgraded" with TTune sprint springs and re-valved armstrong shocks. IT works pretty good, but it looks like I could benefit from a bit more bump resistance. Seeing that I autocross almost exclusively, the car transitions a LOT and for my setup that means the car squats big time when I jump on the throttle. At any rate, I'm considering waivering from the close to "as shipped" condition of my car (more like "as Harry Webster designed) and switching to tube shocks in the rear. I know about most of the bracket setups for TR6, as I purchased a set of tubulars way-way back in the day (1978 or 1979) that came with Monroe-matics! So, my question is this: for the bolt-in shock brackets that are out there in use ON RACE CARS - what are folks using for shocks? I know about AVO, SPAX, and Koni. What I'd be looking for is something that gives me some adjustment for bump... the Koni and Spax only allow rebound adjustment, so we're probably talking about a two-way adjustable. If you use this setup or know someone that does, I'd like some insight on the matter. Worst case, I have a pretty stout cage, so adding a couple of small bars and some ears would be "way easy". I'm just looking to avoid the situation I started about 5 years ago where we started going down the "$1200 per shock" road. I'm looking for something a little closer to off-the-shelf than "the-best-shock-ever-made". TIA, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent 2009 NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bownes at seiri.com Fri Nov 20 15:02:46 2009 From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:02:46 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well, other than going down the 'Call Joe Stimola, your friendly local Penske guy and drop $1k per' route, there are some good double adjustable shocks out there in the circle track world. Grab one of their catalogues. you should be able to get something that fits well. That being said, if you call Joe, you will never need to buy another shock for your car. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Robert M. Lang wrote: > Hi, > > I'm running a TR6 with pretty much a stock rear suspension that it > "upgraded" with TTune sprint springs and re-valved armstrong shocks. IT > works pretty good, but it looks like I could benefit from a bit more bump > resistance. Seeing that I autocross almost exclusively, the car transitions > a LOT and for my setup that means the car squats big time when I jump on the > throttle. > > At any rate, I'm considering waivering from the close to "as shipped" > condition of my car (more like "as Harry Webster designed) and switching to > tube shocks in the rear. > > I know about most of the bracket setups for TR6, as I purchased a set of > tubulars way-way back in the day (1978 or 1979) that came with > Monroe-matics! > > So, my question is this: for the bolt-in shock brackets that are out there > in use ON RACE CARS - what are folks using for shocks? I know about AVO, > SPAX, and Koni. What I'd be looking for is something that gives me some > adjustment for bump... the Koni and Spax only allow rebound adjustment, so > we're probably talking about a two-way adjustable. > > If you use this setup or know someone that does, I'd like some insight on > the matter. > > Worst case, I have a pretty stout cage, so adding a couple of small bars > and some ears would be "way easy". I'm just looking to avoid the situation I > started about 5 years ago where we started going down the "$1200 per shock" > road. I'm looking for something a little closer to off-the-shelf than > "the-best-shock-ever-made". > > TIA, > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > 2009 NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bownes at web9.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as bownes at web9.com From wgrosenbach at juno.com Fri Nov 20 16:19:00 2009 From: wgrosenbach at juno.com (William G Rosenbach) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:19:00 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR Message-ID: <20091120.161900.3904.4.wgrosenbach@juno.com> Bob, If squat is your problem, but you are otherwise happy with the set up, wouldn't a "Z" Bar, do what you need? Bill On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:40:07 -0500 (EST) "Robert M. Lang" writes: > Hi, > > I'm running a TR6 with pretty much a stock rear suspension that it > "upgraded" with TTune sprint springs and re-valved armstrong shocks. > IT > works pretty good, but it looks like I could benefit from a bit more > bump > resistance. Seeing that I autocross almost exclusively, the car > transitions a LOT and for my setup that means the car squats big > time when > I jump on the throttle. > > At any rate, I'm considering waivering from the close to "as > shipped" > condition of my car (more like "as Harry Webster designed) and > switching > to tube shocks in the rear. > > I know about most of the bracket setups for TR6, as I purchased a > set of > tubulars way-way back in the day (1978 or 1979) that came with > Monroe-matics! > > So, my question is this: for the bolt-in shock brackets that are out > there > in use ON RACE CARS - what are folks using for shocks? I know about > AVO, > SPAX, and Koni. What I'd be looking for is something that gives me > some > adjustment for bump... the Koni and Spax only allow rebound > adjustment, so > we're probably talking about a two-way adjustable. > > If you use this setup or know someone that does, I'd like some > insight on > the matter. > > Worst case, I have a pretty stout cage, so adding a couple of small > bars > and some ears would be "way easy". I'm just looking to avoid the > situation > I started about 5 years ago where we started going down the "$1200 > per > shock" road. I'm looking for something a little closer to > off-the-shelf > than "the-best-shock-ever-made". > > TIA, > rml > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for > rent > 2009 NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: > 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wgrosenbach at juno.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as wgrosenbach at juno.com > > ____________________________________________________________ Top Faith-Based Degrees Browse top Christian degrees from accredited online universities. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=5rN6mGfC8WsIVyjIyCzDJAAAJ1CU0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAOOlGz4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARFCQAAAAA= From goodparts at verizon.net Fri Nov 20 20:37:01 2009 From: goodparts at verizon.net (Richard Good) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:37:01 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR References: Message-ID: <019401ca6a5b$f0207e70$6402a8c0@richardyap2xwy> I always thought that the shock could not do much to control squat due to the length of time the downward pull is sustained during acceleration. I figured any setting that was stiff enough to control the squat would be rock solid on a quick bump. I can see a stiff compression setting making it take a wee bit longer to pull the back end down but I can't quite imagine it lessening the amount of squat. I would love to be proven wrong because my car has the same problem. Richard Good ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR > Hi, > > I'm running a TR6 with pretty much a stock rear suspension that it > "upgraded" with TTune sprint springs and re-valved armstrong shocks. IT > works pretty good, but it looks like I could benefit from a bit more bump > resistance. Seeing that I autocross almost exclusively, the car > transitions a LOT and for my setup that means the car squats big time when > I jump on the throttle. > > At any rate, I'm considering waivering from the close to "as shipped" > condition of my car (more like "as Harry Webster designed) and switching > to tube shocks in the rear. > > I know about most of the bracket setups for TR6, as I purchased a set of > tubulars way-way back in the day (1978 or 1979) that came with > Monroe-matics! > > So, my question is this: for the bolt-in shock brackets that are out there > in use ON RACE CARS - what are folks using for shocks? I know about AVO, > SPAX, and Koni. What I'd be looking for is something that gives me some > adjustment for bump... the Koni and Spax only allow rebound adjustment, so > we're probably talking about a two-way adjustable. > > If you use this setup or know someone that does, I'd like some insight on > the matter. > > Worst case, I have a pretty stout cage, so adding a couple of small bars > and some ears would be "way easy". I'm just looking to avoid the situation > I started about 5 years ago where we started going down the "$1200 per > shock" road. I'm looking for something a little closer to off-the-shelf > than "the-best-shock-ever-made". > > TIA, > rml > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > 2009 NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > _______________________________________________ From rjl at gt-classics.com Fri Nov 20 21:06:51 2009 From: rjl at gt-classics.com (R. John Lye) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:06:51 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Like Mr. Bownes, I have also had great results calling Joe and saying "here's what I've got, what do I need?" He'll get you what you need - but it won't be cheap. John At 05:02 PM 11/20/2009, robert bownes wrote: >Well, other than going down the 'Call Joe Stimola, your friendly local >Penske guy and drop $1k per' route, there are some good double adjustable >shocks out there in the circle track world. Grab one of their catalogues. >you should be able to get something that fits well. > >That being said, if you call Joe, you will never need to buy another shock >for your car. > >On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Robert M. Lang wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm running a TR6 with pretty much a stock rear suspension that it > > "upgraded" with TTune sprint springs and re-valved armstrong shocks. IT > > works pretty good, but it looks like I could benefit from a bit more bump > > resistance. Seeing that I autocross almost exclusively, the car transitions > > a LOT and for my setup that means the car squats big time when I > jump on the > > throttle. > > > > At any rate, I'm considering waivering from the close to "as shipped" > > condition of my car (more like "as Harry Webster designed) and switching to > > tube shocks in the rear. > > > > I know about most of the bracket setups for TR6, as I purchased a set of > > tubulars way-way back in the day (1978 or 1979) that came with > > Monroe-matics! > > > > So, my question is this: for the bolt-in shock brackets that are out there > > in use ON RACE CARS - what are folks using for shocks? I know about AVO, > > SPAX, and Koni. What I'd be looking for is something that gives me some > > adjustment for bump... the Koni and Spax only allow rebound adjustment, so > > we're probably talking about a two-way adjustable. > > > > If you use this setup or know someone that does, I'd like some insight on > > the matter. > > > > Worst case, I have a pretty stout cage, so adding a couple of small bars > > and some ears would be "way easy". I'm just looking to avoid the > situation I > > started about 5 years ago where we started going down the "$1200 per shock" > > road. I'm looking for something a little closer to off-the-shelf than > > "the-best-shock-ever-made". > > > > TIA, > > rml > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > > 2009 NER Solo Chair | > > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as bownes at web9.com > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > > > Fot at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > > > > You are subscribed as bownes at web9.com >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as rjl at gt-classics.com > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > >Fot at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > >You are subscribed as rjl at gt-classics.com Thanks, R. John Lye rjl6n at cstone.net From lfritz82 at hotmail.com Fri Nov 20 21:30:52 2009 From: lfritz82 at hotmail.com (Lorne Fritz) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:30:52 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR6 dist update Message-ID: I just installed a Pertronix unit, bumped the timing ahead and eliminated the vacuum retard and the car runs great. Thanks all for the help. Lorne _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ From robertten1 at aol.com Fri Nov 20 22:56:40 2009 From: robertten1 at aol.com (robertten1 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:56:40 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR In-Reply-To: <019401ca6a5b$f0207e70$6402a8c0@richardyap2xwy> References: <019401ca6a5b$f0207e70$6402a8c0@richardyap2xwy> Message-ID: <8CC3886879DA7D9-2E84-43A6@webmail-d042.sysops.aol.com> STIFFER SPRING(S) ?? Bob T -----Original Message----- From: Richard Good To: Robert M. Lang Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, Nov 20, 2009 10:37 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR I always thought that the shock could not do much to control squat due to the length of time the downward pull is sustained during acceleration. I figured any setting that was stiff enough to control the squat would be rock solid on a quick bump. I can see a stiff compression setting making it take a wee bit longer to pull the back end down but I can't quite imagine it lessening the amount of squat. I would love to be proven wrong because my car has the same problem. Richard Good ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR > Hi, > > I'm running a TR6 with pretty much a stock rear suspension that it > "upgraded" with TTune sprint springs and re-valved armstrong shocks. IT > works pretty good, but it looks like I could benefit from a bit more bump > resistance. Seeing that I autocross almost exclusively, the car > transitions a LOT and for my setup that means the car squats big time when > I jump on the throttle. > > At any rate, I'm considering waivering from the close to "as shipped" > condition of my car (more like "as Harry Webster designed) and switching > to tube shocks in the rear. > > I know about most of the bracket setups for TR6, as I purchased a set of > tubulars way-way back in the day (1978 or 1979) that came with > Monroe-matics! > > So, my question is this: for the bolt-in shock brackets that are out there > in use ON RACE CARS - what are folks using for shocks? I know about AVO, > SPAX, and Koni. What I'd be looking for is something that gives me some > adjustment for bump... the Koni and Spax only allow rebound adjustment, so > we're probably talking about a two-way adjustable. > > If you use this setup or know someone that does, I'd like some insight on > the matter. > > Worst case, I have a pretty stout cage, so adding a couple of small bars > and some ears would be "way easy". I'm just looking to avoid the situation > I started about 5 years ago where we started going down the "$1200 per > shock" road. I'm looking for something a little closer to off-the-shelf > than "the-best-shock-ever-made". > > TIA, > rml > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > 2009 NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > _______________________________________________ You are subscribed as robertten1 at aol.com http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as robertten1 at aol.com From cofrog at q.com Sat Nov 21 10:11:07 2009 From: cofrog at q.com (Dan Forgey) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:11:07 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR and a new question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Robert, I have Spax tube shocks on my TR4A racer with Richard Good's springs and sway bar and have no squat. It should be noted that Triumph Tune has several rear springs sets available and you may need to consider a set with a higher spring rate and/or a conversion to tube shocks. Their softest spring rate is 420 lbs/inch and those springs are blue with a color code of green, yellow, yellow with a fitted length of 8.85 inches. Now a question to listers. I have Goodparts front and rear springs that were installed by the previous owner. They cause the car to be noticably higher in the rear (the rear camber adjustment is not causing the rear being high). The spring rates for the Goodparts springs are 390 for the front and 470 for the rear. I see in Goodparts web site that rears may available with a 550 spring rate from him however they are not listed to be ordered so I assume I have the 470s. (Richard, is there a way to visually tell your 470s from the 550s?) I have sourced a set of Triumph Tune rears that have a spring rate of 550 which when installed have the car sitting level. The question I have is; with rears of 550 lbs/inch would I have a dangerous oversteer if I keep the 390s in the front? Thanks, Dan > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:40:07 -0500 > From: lang at isis.mit.edu > To: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR > > Hi, > > I'm running a TR6 with pretty much a stock rear suspension that it > "upgraded" with TTune sprint springs and re-valved armstrong shocks. IT > works pretty good, but it looks like I could benefit from a bit more bump > resistance. Seeing that I autocross almost exclusively, the car > transitions a LOT and for my setup that means the car squats big time when > I jump on the throttle. > > At any rate, I'm considering waivering from the close to "as shipped" > condition of my car (more like "as Harry Webster designed) and switching > to tube shocks in the rear. > > I know about most of the bracket setups for TR6, as I purchased a set of > tubulars way-way back in the day (1978 or 1979) that came with > Monroe-matics! > > So, my question is this: for the bolt-in shock brackets that are out there > in use ON RACE CARS - what are folks using for shocks? I know about AVO, > SPAX, and Koni. What I'd be looking for is something that gives me some > adjustment for bump... the Koni and Spax only allow rebound adjustment, so > we're probably talking about a two-way adjustable. > > If you use this setup or know someone that does, I'd like some insight on > the matter. > > Worst case, I have a pretty stout cage, so adding a couple of small bars > and some ears would be "way easy". I'm just looking to avoid the situation > I started about 5 years ago where we started going down the "$1200 per > shock" road. I'm looking for something a little closer to off-the-shelf > than "the-best-shock-ever-made". > > TIA, > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > 2009 NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > > ) 2009 Microsoft Privacy Terms of use Account Feedback From tr4racing at googlemail.com Sat Nov 21 16:42:20 2009 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:42:20 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Video racing in USA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001201ca6b04$46020860$d2061920$@com> I don't know if this has been posted before but there are some TR3 visible. Cheers CHris From mike.mehl at yahoo.com Sat Nov 21 17:55:48 2009 From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:55:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] spark plug help Message-ID: <351778.18692.qm@web46110.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> The TR4 is coming along. The engine is back in the car. The roll cage is done. The fuel cell is plumbed in. The distributor is back from Jeff at Advanced Distributor. The compression is 11.27 to 1. What plugs should I use? What gap with those plugs? Thanks!!!! Mike Mehl From wgrosenbach at juno.com Sat Nov 21 21:19:27 2009 From: wgrosenbach at juno.com (William G Rosenbach) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:19:27 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife Message-ID: <20091121.211928.1204.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> Greetings all, Autotech.com in California stocks Quaife gear sets and has the TR-6, and it's on SALE!. I cut and pasted, so I hope it posts correctly, Bill 4 SPEED DOG ENGAGEMENT GEARKIT Straight cut, close ratios gears Needle roller bearings support free running gears Includes new Quaife mainshaft Choice of 1st gear ratios GEAR RATIOS 1st2nd3rd4th 2.013 2.223 1.5131.2051.000 Triumph TR6 4 speed dog engagementcall Prices and specifications subject to change without notice. Here is your chance to get Quaife differentials and gearkits at never-to-be-seen-again prices. Prices are good only while supplies last. Once they're gone, they're gone.TRIUMPH 95.309.160Triumph TR6 - TR5902.44 ____________________________________________________________ Doctorate Degrees Online Boost your career with an online doctoral degree. Enroll today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=m2dAQP1rcp7K9q0uBZq7cQAAJ1CU0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAFAntD4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAyOQAAAAA= [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of triumph-title.gif] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of news2.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of H_I_sale.gif] From billb at bnj.com Sat Nov 21 22:25:02 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:25:02 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife In-Reply-To: <20091121.211928.1204.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> References: <20091121.211928.1204.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> Message-ID: Couldn't find it on their website. I'm interested. On Nov 21, 2009, at 8:19 PM, William G Rosenbach wrote: > Greetings all, > Autotech.com in California stocks Quaife gear sets and has the TR-6, and > it's on SALE!. > I cut and pasted, so I hope it posts correctly, > Bill > > > > > 4 SPEED DOG ENGAGEMENT GEARKIT > > Straight cut, close ratios gears > Needle roller bearings support free running gears > Includes new Quaife mainshaft > Choice of 1st gear ratios > GEAR RATIOS > 1st2nd3rd4th > 2.013 > 2.223 1.5131.2051.000 > > Triumph TR6 4 speed dog engagementcall > > > Prices and specifications subject to change without notice. > > > Here is your chance to get Quaife differentials and gearkits at > never-to-be-seen-again prices. Prices are good only while supplies last. > Once they're gone, they're gone.TRIUMPH > 95.309.160Triumph TR6 - TR5902.44 > ____________________________________________________________ > Doctorate Degrees Online > Boost your career with an online doctoral degree. Enroll today! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=m2dAQP1rcp7K9q0uBZq7cQAAJ1CU0Hc Z7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAFAntD4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAyOQAAAAA= > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of triumph-title.gif] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of news2.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of H_I_sale.gif] > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com From tr3a58 at verizon.net Sun Nov 22 07:42:49 2009 From: tr3a58 at verizon.net (Dean Tetterton) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:42:49 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife Message-ID: <116337857.351575.1258900969403.JavaMail.root@vms232.mailsrvcs.net> From billb at bnj.com Sun Nov 22 08:28:03 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:28:03 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife In-Reply-To: <20091121.211928.1204.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> References: <20091121.211928.1204.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> Message-ID: <616398D3-A559-4533-8704-D712546826BC@bnj.com> Well, that didn't work so well, teamnet stripped off the mime bits. Could you send it to me directly On Nov 21, 2009, at 8:19 PM, William G Rosenbach wrote: > Greetings all, > Autotech.com in California stocks Quaife gear sets and has the TR-6, and > it's on SALE!. > I cut and pasted, so I hope it posts correctly, > Bill > > > > > 4 SPEED DOG ENGAGEMENT GEARKIT > > Straight cut, close ratios gears > Needle roller bearings support free running gears > Includes new Quaife mainshaft > Choice of 1st gear ratios > GEAR RATIOS > 1st2nd3rd4th > 2.013 > 2.223 1.5131.2051.000 > > Triumph TR6 4 speed dog engagementcall > > > Prices and specifications subject to change without notice. > > > Here is your chance to get Quaife differentials and gearkits at > never-to-be-seen-again prices. Prices are good only while supplies last. > Once they're gone, they're gone.TRIUMPH > 95.309.160Triumph TR6 - TR5902.44 > ____________________________________________________________ > Doctorate Degrees Online > Boost your career with an online doctoral degree. Enroll today! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=m2dAQP1rcp7K9q0uBZq7cQAAJ1CU0Hc Z7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAFAntD4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAyOQAAAAA= > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of triumph-title.gif] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of news2.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of H_I_sale.gif] > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com From gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com Sun Nov 22 10:23:07 2009 From: gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com (Greg Solow) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:23:07 -0800 Subject: [Fot] test of system Message-ID: This is just a test to see if my Email system is working The Engine Room Morgan & Sports Car Specialists Santa Cruz, Calif. 95060 831 429-1800 From gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com Sun Nov 22 10:27:34 2009 From: gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com (Greg Solow) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:27:34 -0800 Subject: [Fot] this is a tesst Message-ID: <946FCCA2AB034958B3A7BED3A76C69CA@your89d26e0447> test The Engine Room Morgan & Sports Car Specialists Santa Cruz, Calif. 95060 831 429-1800 From wgrosenbach at juno.com Sun Nov 22 13:37:47 2009 From: wgrosenbach at juno.com (William G Rosenbach) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:37:47 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife Message-ID: <20091122.133748.2568.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> Dean, Thanks for finding that. Every time I copied and pasted a URL, it pasted the same info regardless of the page I was on. Then it wouldn't take you there. Bill On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:42:49 -0600 (CST) Dean Tetterton writes: Try this link http://www.autotech.com/quaife/gears/triumph.htm Dean T. On Nov 22, 2009, Bill Babcock wrote: Couldn't find it on their website. I'm interested. On Nov 21, 2009, at 8:19 PM, William G Rosenbach wrote: > Greetings all, > Autotech.com in California stocks Quaife gear sets and has the TR-6, and > it's on SALE!. > I cut and pasted, so I hope it posts correctly, > Bill > > > > ____________________________________________________________ Online Doctorate Degrees Find leading online Phd programs. Study anywhere anytime. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=J__JNfVg7aQ5V8CT8N2M5wAAJ1CU0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAADp7tT4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaUcwAAAAA= From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Sun Nov 22 14:32:46 2009 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis DeLap) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:32:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife In-Reply-To: <20091122.133748.2568.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> References: <20091122.133748.2568.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> Message-ID: <915802.98043.qm@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Has anyone got a price yet? Dean, Thanks for finding that. Every time I copied and pasted a URL, it pasted the same info regardless of the page I was on. Then it wouldn't take you there. Bill On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:42:49 -0600 (CST) Dean Tetterton writes: Try this link http://www.autotech.com/quaife/gears/triumph.htm Dean T. On Nov 22, 2009, Bill Babcock wrote: Couldn't find it on their website. I'm interested. On Nov 21, 2009, at 8:19 PM, William G Rosenbach wrote: > Greetings all, > Autotech.com in California stocks Quaife gear sets and has the TR-6, and > it's on SALE!. > I cut and pasted, so I hope it posts correctly, > Bill > > > > ____________________________________________________________ Online Doctorate Degrees Find leading online Phd programs. Study anywhere anytime. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=J__JNfVg7aQ5V8CT8N2M5wAAJ1CU0Hc Z7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAADp7tT4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaUcwAAAAA= _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as yellow-green at sbcglobal.net http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as yellow-green at sbcglobal.net From rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Sun Nov 22 14:34:36 2009 From: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:34:36 -0600 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife References: <20091122.133748.2568.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> Message-ID: <0081C46CEC8B44988A1B62FF54A9EBBF@latitudefb1e41> This link shows the price: http://www.autotech.com/quaife/index2.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "William G Rosenbach" To: Cc: Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife > Dean, > Thanks for finding that. Every time I copied and pasted a URL, it pasted > the same info regardless of the page I was on. Then it wouldn't take you > there. > Bill > > On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:42:49 -0600 (CST) Dean Tetterton > writes: > Try this link http://www.autotech.com/quaife/gears/triumph.htm > > Dean T. > > > > On Nov 22, 2009, Bill Babcock wrote: > Couldn't find it on their website. I'm interested. > > On Nov 21, 2009, at 8:19 PM, William G Rosenbach wrote: > >> Greetings all, >> Autotech.com in California stocks Quaife gear sets and has the TR-6, > and >> it's on SALE!. >> I cut and pasted, so I hope it posts correctly, >> Bill >> >> >> >> > ____________________________________________________________ > Online Doctorate Degrees > Find leading online Phd programs. Study anywhere anytime. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=J__JNfVg7aQ5V8CT8N2M5wAAJ1CU0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAADp7tT4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaUcwAAAAA= > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rkramer3 at austin.rr.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as rkramer3 at austin.rr.com From tr4racing at googlemail.com Sun Nov 22 15:30:13 2009 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:30:13 +0100 Subject: [Fot] spark plug help In-Reply-To: <351778.18692.qm@web46110.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <351778.18692.qm@web46110.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000901ca6bc3$6050e730$20f2b590$@com> Hi, I use Bosch W6BC, gapped at 0.7 mm. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Mike Mehl Gesendet: Sonntag, 22. November 2009 01:56 An: Triumph Friends of Betreff: [Fot] spark plug help The TR4 is coming along. The engine is back in the car. The roll cage is done. The fuel cell is plumbed in. The distributor is back from Jeff at Advanced Distributor. The compression is 11.27 to 1. What plugs should I use? What gap with those plugs? Thanks!!!! Mike Mehl You are subscribed as tr4racing at googlemail.com http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as tr4racing at googlemail.com From tr4racing at googlemail.com Sun Nov 22 15:33:19 2009 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:33:19 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Video racing in USA In-Reply-To: <4b08c684.0a08c00a.19c5.4340SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> References: <001201ca6b04$46020860$d2061920$@com> <4b08c684.0a08c00a.19c5.4340SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <000a01ca6bc3$d0957150$71c053f0$@com> The missing link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H06_ZSdhHFA&translated=1 -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Tony Drews [mailto:tony at tonydrews.com] Gesendet: Sonntag, 22. November 2009 06:05 An: MadMarx Betreff: Re: [Fot] Video racing in USA I think you forgot the link... - Tony At 05:42 PM 11/21/2009, you wrote: >I don't know if this has been posted before but there are some TR3 visible. > >Cheers >CHris >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as tony at tonydrews.com > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > >Fot at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > >You are subscribed as tony at tonydrews.com From Lunkercars at earthlink.net Sun Nov 22 15:34:53 2009 From: Lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg "Lunker" Hilyer) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:34:53 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Racin' for charity [no Triumph content] Message-ID: <811F9658-4803-4D99-856B-1B09CE645EF3@earthlink.net> Hello FoTers, Did you know November is Diabetes Awareness Month? The 29th of this month, our local kart racing club [Albuquerque Karting] is holding a Charity Enduro in support of the Junior Diabetes Research Foundation. 180 laps, 3 drivers per team and one must be a novice in this type of kart - that's me! The karts are called TaG's - Touch and Go - for their electric start and centrifugal clutch. On this technical 1/3rd mile track these little beasties are actually faster than any of the shifters! A far difference from the 4 stroke "Concession Karts" I race in the league races. 10 laps is fairly brutal. My first practice in one was 2 weeks ago - I managed 33 laps in 3 sessions and could hardly hold the steering wheel to drive myself home. Today we had a 90 lap "mini-enduro" practice race and my 30 lap stint didn't get me quite as bad [yet?] as I expected. But 60 laps is going to HURT. So yes, this posting is pure solicitation. If anyone feels compelled to support me in fundraising, it would be personally appreciated and you can be assured your contribution is going to a truly worthy cause. So far I've received donations from $10 to $250 - no amount is too small. The race is this coming Sunday the 29th but there's still plenty of time to put a check in the mail or send a Pay-Pal. If paying by check, please make it out to J.D.R.F. [Junior Diabetes Research Foundation] and send to my address below. If sending a Pay-Pal, I will cover the fees so that 100% of your donation goes to JDRF. I will get individual cash receipts at the event and mail it back to you. As in our vintage racing there is nothing to be won - just bragging rights for the fastest team and the team that raises the most money. My team-mate Chris Norris put this thing together. At age 12 he went to bed one night and woke up 3 weeks later with FOUR I.V.'s in him and insulin dependance for life. Today Chris went out in our practice race and broke the track record in each of three consecutive laps. My pace was 1.1 secs. off his so not so bad for the rookie I guess. Our team [Team Machine] won today by 5 laps. On the other hand, one of the faster teams didn't feel the need to practice today - they could be a force. We have 7 confirmed teams and hoping for 9-10. Thanks in advance, Greg "Lunker" Hilyer TR4 #314 323-K Claremont Ave NW Albuquerque NM 87107 From triosan at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 09:33:53 2009 From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:33:53 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife In-Reply-To: <7BEE405E-CB47-438F-A3C8-1291662DC36F@bnj.com> References: <20091121.211928.1204.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> <8cbd782d0911221015o7ff94f91i6d8fef453d1189b@mail.gmail.com> <499A76DE-BDD5-48F8-82BE-196959B94C47@bnj.com> <7BEE405E-CB47-438F-A3C8-1291662DC36F@bnj.com> Message-ID: <8cbd782d0911230833y6b339a6x22e1fd4f8283e485@mail.gmail.com> Unfortunately that part number was for a differential, not a gear set. They have no TR gear sets. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: > Here's the ratios. The 2.013 looks good to me. > http://www.autotech.com/quaife/gears/triumph.htm > On Nov 22, 2009, at 12:22 PM, Tony and Annie Garmey wrote: > > Hey Bill, > Jezz what a price. Scam ?? > Can you please have them send 2 sets to me. I'll give you a credit on Peytoe > for cost of one set. > Thank you. > Tony > 21703 234th ave SE > Maple valley wa 98038 > >> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife >> From: billb at bnj.com >> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:47:19 -0800 >> CC: horizonracing at msn.com >> To: triosan at gmail.com >> >> Wow, nine hundred bucks is about $500 less than I paid a year or so ago. >> Tony, I'm going to get one shipped to you. What address should I use. Does >> it make more sense for you to order it? >> >> >> >> On Nov 22, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Chuck Arnold wrote: >> >> > I found this link: >> > http://www.autotech.com/quaife/news.htm >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: >> >> Couldn't find it on their website. I'm interested. >> >> >> >> On Nov 21, 2009, at 8:19 PM, William G Rosenbach wrote: >> >> >> >>> Greetings all, >> >>> Autotech.com in California stocks Quaife gear sets and has the TR-6, >> >>> and >> >>> it's on SALE!. >> >>> I cut and pasted, so I hope it posts correctly, >> >>> Bill >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> 4 SPEED DOG ENGAGEMENT GEARKIT >> >>> >> >>> Straight cut, close ratios gears >> >>> Needle roller bearings support free running gears >> >>> Includes new Quaife mainshaft >> >>> Choice of 1st gear ratios >> >>> GEAR RATIOS >> >>> 1st2nd3rd4th >> >>> 2.013 >> >>> 2.223 1.5131.2051.000 >> >>> >> >>> Triumph TR6 4 speed dog engagementcall >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Prices and specifications subject to change without notice. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Here is your chance to get Quaife differentials and gearkits at >> >>> never-to-be-seen-again prices. Prices are good only while supplies >> >>> last. >> >>> Once they're gone, they're gone.TRIUMPH >> >>> 95.309.160Triumph TR6 - TR5902.44 >> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >> >>> Doctorate Degrees Online >> >>> Boost your career with an online doctoral degree. Enroll today! >> >>> >> >> >> >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=m2dAQP1rcp7K9q0uBZq7cQAAJ1CU 0Hc >> >> Z7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAFAntD4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAyOQAAAAA= >> >>> >> >>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name >> >>> of >> >> triumph-title.gif] >> >>> >> >>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >> >>> name of >> >> news2.jpg] >> >>> >> >>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name >> >>> of >> >> H_I_sale.gif] >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> >> >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >>> >> >>> You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com >> >>> >> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Fot at autox.team.net >> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >>> >> >>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> >> >> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >> >> >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> >> >> >> >> >> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Chuck Arnold >> > > -- Chuck Arnold From billb at bnj.com Mon Nov 23 09:54:55 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:54:55 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife In-Reply-To: <8cbd782d0911230833y6b339a6x22e1fd4f8283e485@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091121.211928.1204.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> <8cbd782d0911221015o7ff94f91i6d8fef453d1189b@mail.gmail.com> <499A76DE-BDD5-48F8-82BE-196959B94C47@bnj.com> <7BEE405E-CB47-438F-A3C8-1291662DC36F@bnj.com> <8cbd782d0911230833y6b339a6x22e1fd4f8283e485@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Bummer. Sure looked like a good deal. too good. On Nov 23, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Chuck Arnold wrote: > Unfortunately that part number was for a differential, not a gear set. > They have no TR gear sets. > > On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: >> Here's the ratios. The 2.013 looks good to me. >> http://www.autotech.com/quaife/gears/triumph.htm >> On Nov 22, 2009, at 12:22 PM, Tony and Annie Garmey wrote: >> >> Hey Bill, >> Jezz what a price. Scam ?? >> Can you please have them send 2 sets to me. I'll give you a credit on Peytoe >> for cost of one set. >> Thank you. >> Tony >> 21703 234th ave SE >> Maple valley wa 98038 >> >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife >>> From: billb at bnj.com >>> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:47:19 -0800 >>> CC: horizonracing at msn.com >>> To: triosan at gmail.com >>> >>> Wow, nine hundred bucks is about $500 less than I paid a year or so ago. >>> Tony, I'm going to get one shipped to you. What address should I use. Does >>> it make more sense for you to order it? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Nov 22, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Chuck Arnold wrote: >>> >>>> I found this link: >>>> http://www.autotech.com/quaife/news.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: >>>>> Couldn't find it on their website. I'm interested. >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 21, 2009, at 8:19 PM, William G Rosenbach wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Greetings all, >>>>>> Autotech.com in California stocks Quaife gear sets and has the TR-6, >>>>>> and >>>>>> it's on SALE!. >>>>>> I cut and pasted, so I hope it posts correctly, >>>>>> Bill >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 4 SPEED DOG ENGAGEMENT GEARKIT >>>>>> >>>>>> Straight cut, close ratios gears >>>>>> Needle roller bearings support free running gears >>>>>> Includes new Quaife mainshaft >>>>>> Choice of 1st gear ratios >>>>>> GEAR RATIOS >>>>>> 1st2nd3rd4th >>>>>> 2.013 >>>>>> 2.223 1.5131.2051.000 >>>>>> >>>>>> Triumph TR6 4 speed dog engagementcall >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Prices and specifications subject to change without notice. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is your chance to get Quaife differentials and gearkits at >>>>>> never-to-be-seen-again prices. Prices are good only while supplies >>>>>> last. >>>>>> Once they're gone, they're gone.TRIUMPH >>>>>> 95.309.160Triumph TR6 - TR5902.44 >>>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>>> Doctorate Degrees Online >>>>>> Boost your career with an online doctoral degree. Enroll today! >>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=m2dAQP1rcp7K9q0uBZq7cQAAJ1CU0Hc >>>>> Z7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAFAntD4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAyOQAAAAA= >>>>>> >>>>>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name >>>>>> of >>>>> triumph-title.gif] >>>>>> >>>>>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >>>>>> name of >>>>> news2.jpg] >>>>>> >>>>>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name >>>>>> of >>>>> H_I_sale.gif] >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>>> >>>>>> You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Fot at autox.team.net >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>>>>> >>>>>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> >>>>> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Fot at autox.team.net >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>>>> >>>>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Chuck Arnold >>> >> >> > > > > -- > Chuck Arnold From Lunkercars at earthlink.net Mon Nov 23 10:13:34 2009 From: Lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg Lunker Hilyer) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:13:34 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Quaife dog gears Message-ID: <9763EFF1-8F8A-4A9C-865C-8FC85446F2CF@earthlink.net> Here's the skinny on Quaife/TR. AutoTech is no longer a Quaife distributor. They are selling off in-stock inventory. No trans parts available but they do have a great deal on a few LSD's at $902. They referred me to Motorvicity in Michigan. Dog kits are available with either a 2.013 or 2.223 1st and either a TR6 or Dolomite main shaft. Price was quoted at $2658 but would go down to $2127 on a order of 5. Might be a additional discount available for 10+. Still too rich for me but it sure would be nice. Might actually be cheaper in the long run given my consumption rate of gearboxes but probably not in my immediate future. Greg "Lunker" Hilyer TR4 #314 Albuquerque NM From wgrosenbach at juno.com Mon Nov 23 10:13:46 2009 From: wgrosenbach at juno.com (William G Rosenbach) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:13:46 -0700 Subject: [Fot] All Hail Lucas, Prince of Darkness! Message-ID: <20091123.101347.2856.5.wgrosenbach@juno.com> We've all been there. http://www.hummingbirds.net/lucas/index.html ____________________________________________________________ Free College Information Connect to the online college that best fits your needs. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=QzS8GpdslJrIxnV5GJIx4gAAJ1CU0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAJ9cGD4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAJWaQAAAAA= From wgrosenbach at juno.com Mon Nov 23 11:07:51 2009 From: wgrosenbach at juno.com (William G Rosenbach) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:07:51 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife Message-ID: <20091123.110751.2856.6.wgrosenbach@juno.com> That really is sad. There was a typo disclaimer, though. Makes you wonder about all the other cool stuff listed. Sorry for the wild goose chase, Bill ____________________________________________________________ Health Insurance Deals Get free online quotes on self employed health insurance - Save 30%! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=XBnQuzGnyNtpgkgB2fOZHQAAJ1CU0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAADi4QD4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABJQVgAAAAA= From Lunkercars at earthlink.net Mon Nov 23 11:28:33 2009 From: Lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg "Lunker" Hilyer) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:28:33 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Quaife dog gears In-Reply-To: <8cbd782d0911231018h4939f4f2h7e83ffd99b45af22@mail.gmail.com> References: <9763EFF1-8F8A-4A9C-865C-8FC85446F2CF@earthlink.net> <8cbd782d0911231018h4939f4f2h7e83ffd99b45af22@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0330F47F-60D3-4211-93C9-4F076BDB5A92@earthlink.net> Yeah... It does seem to be a pay now or pay later deal. I'm already good money down the drain with the Dolo/6 set I broke in Portland [still haven't investigated the damage]. I actually might step up if we could get the 5+ price. Greg On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Chuck Arnold wrote: > Thanks for the additional research. Pretty pricey, but Tony G says it > is the only way to go to assure your box will last. Given that he > will do a rebuild and install the Dolomite close ratio set for about > $2000it will only take the one he has done for me blowing up beyond > repair to justify the Quaife cost [course I already have sunk the 2K]. > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Greg Lunker > wrote: >> Here's the skinny on Quaife/TR. AutoTech is no longer a Quaife >> distributor. >> They are selling off in-stock inventory. No trans parts available >> but they >> do have a great deal on a few LSD's at $902. They referred me to >> Motorvicity >> in Michigan. Dog kits are available with either a 2.013 or 2.223 >> 1st and >> either a TR6 or Dolomite main shaft. Price was quoted at $2658 but >> would go >> down to $2127 on a order of 5. Might be a additional discount >> available for >> 10+. >> Still too rich for me but it sure would be nice. Might actually be >> cheaper >> in the long run given my consumption rate of gearboxes but >> probably not in >> my immediate future. >> >> Greg "Lunker" Hilyer >> TR4 #314 >> Albuquerque NM >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> >> >> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >> > > > > -- > Chuck Arnold From timmurph at fastbytes.com Mon Nov 23 11:38:26 2009 From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:38:26 -0600 Subject: [Fot] spark plug help In-Reply-To: <351778.18692.qm@web46110.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <351778.18692.qm@web46110.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000801ca6c6c$25a07160$70e15420$@com> We use NGK BPR7HS gapped at 0.025 or about 0.65mm. Tim 1961 TR4 #317 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Mehl Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 6:56 PM To: Triumph Friends of Subject: [Fot] spark plug help The TR4 is coming along. The engine is back in the car. The roll cage is done. The fuel cell is plumbed in. The distributor is back from Jeff at Advanced Distributor. The compression is 11.27 to 1. What plugs should I use? What gap with those plugs? Thanks!!!! Mike Mehl You are subscribed as timmurph at fastbytes.com http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as timmurph at fastbytes.com From rek46 at aol.com Mon Nov 23 11:44:48 2009 From: rek46 at aol.com (rek46 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:44:48 CST Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife Message-ID: I can't believe you don't justin welded diffs -----Original Message----- Date: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:36:47 pm To: triosan at gmail.com Cc: fot at autox.team.net From: "William G Rosenbach" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife That really is sad. There was a typo disclaimer, though. Makes you wonder about all the other cool stuff listed. Sorry for the wild goose chase, Bill ____________________________________________________________ Health Insurance Deals Get free online quotes on self employed health insurance - Save 30%! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=XBnQuzGnyNtpgkgB2fOZHQAAJ1CU0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAADi4QD4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABJQVgAAAAA= You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com From billb at bnj.com Mon Nov 23 12:03:18 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:03:18 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Quaife dog gears In-Reply-To: <0330F47F-60D3-4211-93C9-4F076BDB5A92@earthlink.net> References: <9763EFF1-8F8A-4A9C-865C-8FC85446F2CF@earthlink.net> <8cbd782d0911231018h4939f4f2h7e83ffd99b45af22@mail.gmail.com> <0330F47F-60D3-4211-93C9-4F076BDB5A92@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <6C084C4A-EF51-43C9-A304-18CB40D1A034@bnj.com> The dog boxes are great, but they are not bulletproof, I dropped one right at turn 1 at Pacific Raceways--peyote wound up with it's front end in the air plowing the infield with what was left of the gearbox. And don't forget that you need a good TR6 gearcase to install the set into, and installing it isn't trivial, though nothing as ugly as building a good stocker CR box. On Nov 23, 2009, at 10:28 AM, Greg Lunker Hilyer wrote: > Yeah... It does seem to be a pay now or pay later deal. I'm already good money down the drain with the Dolo/6 set I broke in Portland [still haven't investigated the damage]. I actually might step up if we could get the 5+ price. > Greg > On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Chuck Arnold wrote: > >> Thanks for the additional research. Pretty pricey, but Tony G says it >> is the only way to go to assure your box will last. Given that he >> will do a rebuild and install the Dolomite close ratio set for about >> $2000it will only take the one he has done for me blowing up beyond >> repair to justify the Quaife cost [course I already have sunk the 2K]. >> >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Greg Lunker wrote: >>> Here's the skinny on Quaife/TR. AutoTech is no longer a Quaife distributor. >>> They are selling off in-stock inventory. No trans parts available but they >>> do have a great deal on a few LSD's at $902. They referred me to Motorvicity >>> in Michigan. Dog kits are available with either a 2.013 or 2.223 1st and >>> either a TR6 or Dolomite main shaft. Price was quoted at $2658 but would go >>> down to $2127 on a order of 5. Might be a additional discount available for >>> 10+. >>> Still too rich for me but it sure would be nice. Might actually be cheaper >>> in the long run given my consumption rate of gearboxes but probably not in >>> my immediate future. >>> >>> Greg "Lunker" Hilyer >>> TR4 #314 >>> Albuquerque NM >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>> >>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >>> >>> >>> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Chuck Arnold > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com From fasttrs at mindspring.com Mon Nov 23 12:16:43 2009 From: fasttrs at mindspring.com (Mike Munson) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:16:43 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife/Lincoln Locker Message-ID: <15575114.1259003803742.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> On my TR6 I have been Using Lincoln Lockers but now that I am making more horsepower I am breaking the short diff hub right at the keyway. I have broken two in the last two races. I guess it may be better to have some kind if limited slip now but they cost way more than the LL. Mike -----Original Message----- >From: "rek46 at aol.com" >Sent: Nov 23, 2009 12:44 PM >To: William G Rosenbach , triosan at gmail.com >Cc: fot at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife > >I can't believe you don't justin welded diffs >-----Original Message----- >Date: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:36:47 pm >To: triosan at gmail.com >Cc: fot at autox.team.net >From: "William G Rosenbach" >Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife > >That really is sad. There was a typo disclaimer, though. Makes you wonder > >about all the other cool stuff listed. > >Sorry for the wild goose chase, > >Bill > >____________________________________________________________ > >Health Insurance Deals > >Get free online quotes on self employed health insurance - Save 30%! > >http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=XBnQuzGnyNtpgkgB2fOZHQAAJ1CU0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAADi4QD4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABJQVgAAAAA= >You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com > > > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > > >Fot at autox.team.net > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > > > >You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as fasttrs at mindspring.com > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > >Fot at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > >You are subscribed as fasttrs at mindspring.com From billb at bnj.com Mon Nov 23 12:41:24 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:41:24 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Quaife dog gears In-Reply-To: <5882AD31-F428-4817-BDBE-D1F344E23718@earthlink.net> References: <9763EFF1-8F8A-4A9C-865C-8FC85446F2CF@earthlink.net> <8cbd782d0911231018h4939f4f2h7e83ffd99b45af22@mail.gmail.com> <0330F47F-60D3-4211-93C9-4F076BDB5A92@earthlink.net> <6C084C4A-EF51-43C9-A304-18CB40D1A034@bnj.com> <5882AD31-F428-4817-BDBE-D1F344E23718@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <893ED3A0-C1E2-417E-841E-8E8007338096@bnj.com> Nope, it wen't boom at about 130 mph and got dragged on the pavement. Not much opportunity for forensics. I gave the trailer to my Daughter. I'm probably going to be selling Nero sooner or later though. But it won't be all that cheap. On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:08 AM, Greg Lunker Hilyer wrote: > Hi Bill, > Do you know what failed in that box. Who's internals? Any opinion on Quaife's quality? > Also, do you still have that trailer? Want to off it? > Greg > On Nov 23, 2009, at 12:03 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: > >> The dog boxes are great, but they are not bulletproof, I dropped one right at turn 1 at Pacific Raceways--peyote wound up with it's front end in the air plowing the infield with what was left of the gearbox. And don't forget that you need a good TR6 gearcase to install the set into, and installing it isn't trivial, though nothing as ugly as building a good stocker CR box. >> >> On Nov 23, 2009, at 10:28 AM, Greg Lunker Hilyer wrote: >> >>> Yeah... It does seem to be a pay now or pay later deal. I'm already good money down the drain with the Dolo/6 set I broke in Portland [still haven't investigated the damage]. I actually might step up if we could get the 5+ price. >>> Greg >>> On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Chuck Arnold wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks for the additional research. Pretty pricey, but Tony G says it >>>> is the only way to go to assure your box will last. Given that he >>>> will do a rebuild and install the Dolomite close ratio set for about >>>> $2000it will only take the one he has done for me blowing up beyond >>>> repair to justify the Quaife cost [course I already have sunk the 2K]. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Greg Lunker wrote: >>>>> Here's the skinny on Quaife/TR. AutoTech is no longer a Quaife distributor. >>>>> They are selling off in-stock inventory. No trans parts available but they >>>>> do have a great deal on a few LSD's at $902. They referred me to Motorvicity >>>>> in Michigan. Dog kits are available with either a 2.013 or 2.223 1st and >>>>> either a TR6 or Dolomite main shaft. Price was quoted at $2658 but would go >>>>> down to $2127 on a order of 5. Might be a additional discount available for >>>>> 10+. >>>>> Still too rich for me but it sure would be nice. Might actually be cheaper >>>>> in the long run given my consumption rate of gearboxes but probably not in >>>>> my immediate future. >>>>> >>>>> Greg "Lunker" Hilyer >>>>> TR4 #314 >>>>> Albuquerque NM >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> >>>>> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Fot at autox.team.net >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>>>> >>>>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Chuck Arnold >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>> >>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >>> >>> >>> You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com From RKramer at rdoequipment.com Mon Nov 23 12:58:06 2009 From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:58:06 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Quaife dog gears In-Reply-To: <6C084C4A-EF51-43C9-A304-18CB40D1A034@bnj.com> References: <9763EFF1-8F8A-4A9C-865C-8FC85446F2CF@earthlink.net> <8cbd782d0911231018h4939f4f2h7e83ffd99b45af22@mail.gmail.com> <0330F47F-60D3-4211-93C9-4F076BDB5A92@earthlink.net> <6C084C4A-EF51-43C9-A304-18CB40D1A034@bnj.com> Message-ID: Moss Europe is selling the CR gear sets TT2210 again and the loose gears for Explodo-Pop transmissions like Lunkers. At 390 pounds they cost about $650 a set before shipping. Last time I bought one it was around $550 but methinks it is worth the money. As for installation it's the same deal, you need a good TR6 gearbox to for all but the 3rd and 4th gears with a minor case modification. If you can rebuild a TR tranny, you can build the Dolomite Close Ratio version Bob Kramer Sales Manager RDO Equipment Company 16415 N. IH 35 Pflugerville, TX 78660 512-272-4141 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Babcock Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:03 PM To: Greg "Lunker" Hilyer Cc: Friends Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife dog gears The dog boxes are great, but they are not bulletproof, I dropped one right at turn 1 at Pacific Raceways--peyote wound up with it's front end in the air plowing the infield with what was left of the gearbox. And don't forget that you need a good TR6 gearcase to install the set into, and installing it isn't trivial, though nothing as ugly as building a good stocker CR box. On Nov 23, 2009, at 10:28 AM, Greg Lunker Hilyer wrote: > Yeah... It does seem to be a pay now or pay later deal. I'm already good money down the drain with the Dolo/6 set I broke in Portland [still haven't investigated the damage]. I actually might step up if we could get the 5+ price. > Greg > On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Chuck Arnold wrote: > >> Thanks for the additional research. Pretty pricey, but Tony G says it >> is the only way to go to assure your box will last. Given that he >> will do a rebuild and install the Dolomite close ratio set for about >> $2000it will only take the one he has done for me blowing up beyond >> repair to justify the Quaife cost [course I already have sunk the 2K]. >> >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Greg Lunker wrote: >>> Here's the skinny on Quaife/TR. AutoTech is no longer a Quaife distributor. >>> They are selling off in-stock inventory. No trans parts available but they >>> do have a great deal on a few LSD's at $902. They referred me to Motorvicity >>> in Michigan. Dog kits are available with either a 2.013 or 2.223 1st and >>> either a TR6 or Dolomite main shaft. Price was quoted at $2658 but would go >>> down to $2127 on a order of 5. Might be a additional discount available for >>> 10+. >>> Still too rich for me but it sure would be nice. Might actually be cheaper >>> in the long run given my consumption rate of gearboxes but probably not in >>> my immediate future. >>> >>> Greg "Lunker" Hilyer >>> TR4 #314 >>> Albuquerque NM >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>> >>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >>> >>> >>> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Chuck Arnold > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com You are subscribed as rkramer at rdoequipment.com http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as rkramer at rdoequipment.com From jeff_durant at comcast.net Mon Nov 23 13:13:57 2009 From: jeff_durant at comcast.net (jeff_durant at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:13:57 +0000 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife/Lincoln Locker In-Reply-To: <15575114.1259003803742.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <15575114.1259003803742.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1590244058-1259007200-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-764750679-@bda037.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Mike, Not sure what a Lincoln Locker is but I had the same problem on my TR6 running a Detroit Locker in the past. I lap the tapered shaft to the mating flange with fine Clover lapping paste, clean well and assemble. No issues since. Just finished painting my TR6 and hope to be ready for the spring. I was going to snag a Quaife gearset today until seeing the previous mails. Guess I'll stick to my still strong 1.88 1st Kastner gear sets (thanks Kas). Now if I can just keep the wife from buying an 7k French stove I can finish 2x engines. Jeff Durant '69 TR6 #12 '68 TR250 Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Mike Munson Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:16:43 -0600 (GMT-06:00) To: rek46 at aol.com; William G Rosenbach; Cc: Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife/Lincoln Locker On my TR6 I have been Using Lincoln Lockers but now that I am making more horsepower I am breaking the short diff hub right at the keyway. I have broken two in the last two races. I guess it may be better to have some kind if limited slip now but they cost way more than the LL. Mike -----Original Message----- >From: "rek46 at aol.com" >Sent: Nov 23, 2009 12:44 PM >To: William G Rosenbach , triosan at gmail.com >Cc: fot at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife > >I can't believe you don't justin welded diffs >-----Original Message----- >Date: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:36:47 pm >To: triosan at gmail.com >Cc: fot at autox.team.net >From: "William G Rosenbach" >Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife > >That really is sad. There was a typo disclaimer, though. Makes you wonder > >about all the other cool stuff listed. > >Sorry for the wild goose chase, > >Bill > >____________________________________________________________ > >Health Insurance Deals > >Get free online quotes on self employed health insurance - Save 30%! > >http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=XBnQuzGnyNtpgkgB2fOZHQAAJ1CU0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAADi4QD4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABJQVgAAAAA= >You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com > > > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > > >Fot at autox.team.net > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > > > >You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as fasttrs at mindspring.com > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > >Fot at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > >You are subscribed as fasttrs at mindspring.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as jeff_durant at comcast.net http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as jeff_durant at comcast.net From billb at bnj.com Mon Nov 23 14:23:34 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:23:34 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife/Lincoln Locker In-Reply-To: <15575114.1259003803742.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <15575114.1259003803742.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Stuff that breaks is more expensive than stuff that doesn't. On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Mike Munson wrote: > On my TR6 I have been Using Lincoln Lockers but now that I am making more horsepower I am breaking the short diff hub right at the keyway. I have broken two in the last two races. I guess it may be better to have some kind if limited slip now but they cost way more than the LL. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- >> From: "rek46 at aol.com" >> Sent: Nov 23, 2009 12:44 PM >> To: William G Rosenbach , triosan at gmail.com >> Cc: fot at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife >> >> I can't believe you don't justin welded diffs >> -----Original Message----- >> Date: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:36:47 pm >> To: triosan at gmail.com >> Cc: fot at autox.team.net >> From: "William G Rosenbach" >> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife >> >> That really is sad. There was a typo disclaimer, though. Makes you wonder >> >> about all the other cool stuff listed. >> >> Sorry for the wild goose chase, >> >> Bill >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> >> Health Insurance Deals >> >> Get free online quotes on self employed health insurance - Save 30%! >> >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=XBnQuzGnyNtpgkgB2fOZHQAAJ1CU0Hc Z7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAADi4QD4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABJQVgAAAAA= >> You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com >> >> >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> >> >> >> >> >> You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as fasttrs at mindspring.com >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> >> >> You are subscribed as fasttrs at mindspring.com > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com From bownes at seiri.com Mon Nov 23 14:59:21 2009 From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:59:21 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife/Lincoln Locker In-Reply-To: References: <15575114.1259003803742.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Amen to that Brother Babcock! The failure mode is clearly indicative of a stress riser. As someone else mentioned, a little judicious grinding and lapping may help make the problem go away. On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: > Stuff that breaks is more expensive than stuff that doesn't. > On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Mike Munson wrote: > > > On my TR6 I have been Using Lincoln Lockers but now that I am making more > horsepower I am breaking the short diff hub right at the keyway. I have > broken > two in the last two races. I guess it may be better to have some kind if > limited slip now but they cost way more than the LL. > > > > Mike > > > > -----Original Message----- > >> From: "rek46 at aol.com" > >> Sent: Nov 23, 2009 12:44 PM > >> To: William G Rosenbach , triosan at gmail.com > >> Cc: fot at autox.team.net > >> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife > >> > >> I can't believe you don't justin welded diffs > >> -----Original Message----- > >> Date: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:36:47 pm > >> To: triosan at gmail.com > >> Cc: fot at autox.team.net > >> From: "William G Rosenbach" > >> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife > >> > >> That really is sad. There was a typo disclaimer, though. Makes you > wonder > >> > >> about all the other cool stuff listed. > >> > >> Sorry for the wild goose chase, > >> > >> Bill > >> > >> ____________________________________________________________ > >> > >> Health Insurance Deals > >> > >> Get free online quotes on self employed health insurance - Save 30%! > >> > >> > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=XBnQuzGnyNtpgkgB2fOZHQAAJ1CU0Hc > Z7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAADi4QD4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABJQVgAAAAA= > >> You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com > >> > >> > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >> > >> > >> > >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> > >> You are subscribed as fasttrs at mindspring.com > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> > >> Fot at autox.team.net > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >> > >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > >> > >> > >> You are subscribed as fasttrs at mindspring.com > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > > > Fot at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bownes at web9.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as bownes at web9.com From Lunkercars at earthlink.net Mon Nov 23 15:18:29 2009 From: Lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg Lunker Hilyer) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:18:29 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Dog-box kits Message-ID: <252984B1-1A29-4ED6-A964-86134163326C@earthlink.net> Hello all, I've had quite a bit of interest so here's a bit more info. The deal available: For Quaife there is nothing available off the shelf. Minimum run is 10 at the price of $2127 ea. and 16 weeks from order date to shipping from the UK. They have no-cost options of TR6 or Dolomite main-shaft and a 2.013 or 2.223 1st. The others are 1.513 2nd, 1.205 3rd and of course 1.00 4th. Alternate ratios MIGHT be possible. Haven't discussed it but maybe we could get a O.D. shaft as well. Kit consists of: 4 speed dog engagement gearkit, Straight cut, close ratio gears, Needle roller bearings support free running gears, QUAIFE mainshaft included. I can get a guarantee of 16 weeks - if for some reason there is a delay, individuals could opt-out but the order would still go thru. 75% deposit may or may not be negotiable. Includes shipping to Michigan, shipping to your address at cost. Other countries can be drop-shipped from the UK. At first impression the price seemed beyond my cheapo budgeting. But if it gives a bit of longevity over our synchro boxes, it might be better and more cost effective in the long run - and superior. The only production-car dog-box I've driven is a Bugeye, but what a dreamy transmission - a guy could get used to that. Honestly it might be worth a second a lap [anywhere] just in lightning-fast shifts. Any opinions as the strength/reliability to be gained? Any ideas on a alternative manufacturer that might offer a superior product or price? All the dog-boxes I know of in Bugeyes use Tiliton clutches - is that really necessary? Seems to me more to the "Vintage Spirit" than anything using a non- OEM case and vastly superior. Anyone want to put this out to the TVR/Morgan lists? Greg "Lunker" Hilyer --- With broken transmissions stacked like cord- wood. And honest... I'm easy on transmissions in anything but a TR. TR4 #314 Albuquerque NM From tlizzard at msn.com Mon Nov 23 15:34:44 2009 From: tlizzard at msn.com (Terry Stetler) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:34:44 -0500 Subject: [Fot] All Hail Lucas, Prince of Darkness! In-Reply-To: <20091123.101347.2856.5.wgrosenbach@juno.com> References: <20091123.101347.2856.5.wgrosenbach@juno.com> Message-ID: Thanks, I needed some good humour today! Terry Stetler. ----- Original Message ----- From: William G Rosenbach To: FOT at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: [Fot] All Hail Lucas, Prince of Darkness! We've all been there. http://www.hummingbirds.net/lucas/index.html ____________________________________________________________ Free College Information Connect to the online college that best fits your needs. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=QzS8GpdslJrIxnV5GJIx4gAAJ1CU0 HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAJ9cGD4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAJWaQAAAAA= _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as tlizzard at msn.com http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as tlizzard at msn.com From jsiam1 at earthlink.net Mon Nov 23 16:21:17 2009 From: jsiam1 at earthlink.net (Joseph Siam) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:21:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Dog-box kits Message-ID: <27675449.1259018477775.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi All I build a Dog Box for the Spitfires. It is a lot of work to put together and is worth at least a few seconds a lap on most of our tracks At $2127 thats a good price. Does it use stock shift forks bearings and spacers? Joe -----Original Message----- >From: Greg Lunker Hilyer >Sent: Nov 23, 2009 5:18 PM >To: Friends Triumph' Triumph >Subject: [Fot] Dog-box kits > >Hello all, >I've had quite a bit of interest so here's a bit more info. >The deal available: >For Quaife there is nothing available off the shelf. Minimum run is >10 at the price of $2127 ea. and 16 weeks from order date to shipping >from the UK. They have no-cost options of TR6 or Dolomite main-shaft >and a 2.013 or 2.223 1st. The others are 1.513 2nd, 1.205 3rd and of >course 1.00 4th. Alternate ratios MIGHT be possible. Haven't >discussed it but maybe we could get a O.D. shaft as well. >Kit consists of: >4 speed dog engagement gearkit, >Straight cut, close ratio gears, >Needle roller bearings support free running gears, >QUAIFE mainshaft included. > >I can get a guarantee of 16 weeks - if for some reason there is a >delay, individuals could opt-out but the order would still go thru. >75% deposit may or may not be negotiable. Includes shipping to >Michigan, shipping to your address at cost. Other countries can be >drop-shipped from the UK. >At first impression the price seemed beyond my cheapo budgeting. But >if it gives a bit of longevity over our synchro boxes, it might be >better and more cost effective in the long run - and superior. The >only production-car dog-box I've driven is a Bugeye, but what a >dreamy transmission - a guy could get used to that. Honestly it >might be worth a second a lap [anywhere] just in lightning-fast shifts. >Any opinions as the strength/reliability to be gained? >Any ideas on a alternative manufacturer that might offer a superior >product or price? >All the dog-boxes I know of in Bugeyes use Tiliton clutches - is that >really necessary? >Seems to me more to the "Vintage Spirit" than anything using a non- >OEM case and vastly superior. >Anyone want to put this out to the TVR/Morgan lists? > >Greg "Lunker" Hilyer --- With broken transmissions stacked like cord- >wood. And honest... I'm easy on transmissions in anything but a TR. >TR4 #314 >Albuquerque NM >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as jsiam1 at earthlink.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > >Fot at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > >You are subscribed as jsiam1 at earthlink.net Chequered Flag Racing .net Joseph P. Siam 9833 Deering Ave unit I Chatsworth Ca 91311 818 350 6222 From Gt6steve at aol.com Mon Nov 23 16:22:09 2009 From: Gt6steve at aol.com (Gt6steve at aol.com) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:22:09 EST Subject: [Fot] Quaife dogbox gearsets Message-ID: If we can get the Quaife TR6 straighcut dog gearsets for $2200 I'm in for one! From horizonracing at msn.com Mon Nov 23 16:53:33 2009 From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:53:33 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Dog-box kits In-Reply-To: <252984B1-1A29-4ED6-A964-86134163326C@earthlink.net> References: <252984B1-1A29-4ED6-A964-86134163326C@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Also to note: the Quaife gears and hubs all come with Part #'s etched into them. If you need to change ratio's, wear out a dog hub etc, Ya can call quaife with said part # and they send you the Part :D I have a couple off Dog boxes in service that are not Quaife. I think they are out of Germany?? No spare parts available...you must buy a whole kit. All the Dog boxes I have being used get Crack checked every "off" season and the brgs/other bits n pieces get replaced. Average life span is 4-5 seasons. I've got 1 thats going in to it 7th season on the same set of gears and cases. Happy holidays Tony > To: fot at autox.team.net > From: Lunkercars at earthlink.net > Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:18:29 -0700 > Subject: [Fot] Dog-box kits > > Hello all, > I've had quite a bit of interest so here's a bit more info. > The deal available: > For Quaife there is nothing available off the shelf. Minimum run is > 10 at the price of $2127 ea. and 16 weeks from order date to shipping > from the UK. They have no-cost options of TR6 or Dolomite main-shaft > and a 2.013 or 2.223 1st. The others are 1.513 2nd, 1.205 3rd and of > course 1.00 4th. Alternate ratios MIGHT be possible. Haven't > discussed it but maybe we could get a O.D. shaft as well. > Kit consists of: > 4 speed dog engagement gearkit, > Straight cut, close ratio gears, > Needle roller bearings support free running gears, > QUAIFE mainshaft included. > > I can get a guarantee of 16 weeks - if for some reason there is a > delay, individuals could opt-out but the order would still go thru. > 75% deposit may or may not be negotiable. Includes shipping to > Michigan, shipping to your address at cost. Other countries can be > drop-shipped from the UK. > At first impression the price seemed beyond my cheapo budgeting. But > if it gives a bit of longevity over our synchro boxes, it might be > better and more cost effective in the long run - and superior. The > only production-car dog-box I've driven is a Bugeye, but what a > dreamy transmission - a guy could get used to that. Honestly it > might be worth a second a lap [anywhere] just in lightning-fast shifts. > Any opinions as the strength/reliability to be gained? > Any ideas on a alternative manufacturer that might offer a superior > product or price? > All the dog-boxes I know of in Bugeyes use Tiliton clutches - is that > really necessary? > Seems to me more to the "Vintage Spirit" than anything using a non- > OEM case and vastly superior. > Anyone want to put this out to the TVR/Morgan lists? > > Greg "Lunker" Hilyer --- With broken transmissions stacked like cord- > wood. And honest... I'm easy on transmissions in anything but a TR. > TR4 #314 > Albuquerque NM > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as horizonracing at msn.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as horizonracing at msn.com From chasgee at aol.com Mon Nov 23 17:27:17 2009 From: chasgee at aol.com (chasgee at aol.com) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:27:17 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Dog-box kits In-Reply-To: <27675449.1259018477775.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <27675449.1259018477775.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <8CC3AB402E96638-156C-9023@webmail-d002.sysops.aol.com> Keep in mind that the ratios are the same as the Dolomite close ratio set (except for first) so the lap times won't improve that much. There may be some benefit to the "clutchless" shifting, but other things in the drivetrain may start to break. Too bad they don't have off the shelf ratios like Hewland or Webster. If they did, then you would see a big benefit. Still, that's a good price for the amount of work required to do it yourself. Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Siam To: Greg Lunker Hilyer ; Friends Triumph'Triumph Sent: Mon, Nov 23, 2009 3:21 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Dog-box kits Hi All I build a Dog Box for the Spitfires. It is a lot of work to put together nd is worth at least a few seconds a lap on most of our tracks At $2127 thats good price. Does it use stock shift forks bearings and spacers? Joe -----Original Message----- From: Greg Lunker Hilyer Sent: Nov 23, 2009 5:18 PM To: Friends Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Dog-box kits Hello all, I've had quite a bit of interest so here's a bit more info. The deal available: For Quaife there is nothing available off the shelf. Minimum run is 10 at the price of $2127 ea. and 16 weeks from order date to shipping from the UK. They have no-cost options of TR6 or Dolomite main-shaft and a 2.013 or 2.223 1st. The others are 1.513 2nd, 1.205 3rd and of course 1.00 4th. Alternate ratios MIGHT be possible. Haven't discussed it but maybe we could get a O.D. shaft as well. Kit consists of: 4 speed dog engagement gearkit, Straight cut, close ratio gears, Needle roller bearings support free running gears, QUAIFE mainshaft included. I can get a guarantee of 16 weeks - if for some reason there is a delay, individuals could opt-out but the order would still go thru. 75% deposit may or may not be negotiable. Includes shipping to Michigan, shipping to your address at cost. Other countries can be drop-shipped from the UK. At first impression the price seemed beyond my cheapo budgeting. But if it gives a bit of longevity over our synchro boxes, it might be better and more cost effective in the long run - and superior. The only production-car dog-box I've driven is a Bugeye, but what a dreamy transmission - a guy could get used to that. Honestly it might be worth a second a lap [anywhere] just in lightning-fast shifts. Any opinions as the strength/reliability to be gained? Any ideas on a alternative manufacturer that might offer a superior product or price? All the dog-boxes I know of in Bugeyes use Tiliton clutches - is that really necessary? Seems to me more to the "Vintage Spirit" than anything using a non- OEM case and vastly superior. Anyone want to put this out to the TVR/Morgan lists? Greg "Lunker" Hilyer --- With broken transmissions stacked like cord- wood. And honest... I'm easy on transmissions in anything but a TR. TR4 #314 Albuquerque NM You are subscribed as jsiam1 at earthlink.net http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as jsiam1 at earthlink.net hequered Flag Racing .net oseph P. Siam 833 Deering Ave unit I hatsworth Ca 91311 18 350 6222 You are subscribed as chasgee at aol.com http://www.fot-racing.com ot at autox.team.net ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. ou are subscribed as chasgee at aol.com From timmurph at fastbytes.com Mon Nov 23 17:39:34 2009 From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:39:34 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Need screw in style bushing for Lucas PI injector/nozzle Message-ID: <000c01ca6c9e$990a6bb0$cb1f4310$@com> If anyone has a spare screw in style "nylon" bushing that holds the injector/nozzle into the intake manifold on the Triumph Lucas PI, please contact me. I sent my nozzles to Kisler to have them tested and reconditioned and one of the 40 year old screw in style bushings broke. I'm told they are made of nylon but it looks like it could be delrin. As I recall, delrin is more heat resistant than nylon and is resistant to gasoline also. Or if you know of a supplier in the U.S. that would be appreciated. I think I can get the bushings in England and could make one if it came to that. Thanks. Tim From Lunkercars at earthlink.net Mon Nov 23 17:40:11 2009 From: Lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg "Lunker" Hilyer) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:40:11 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Dog-box kits Message-ID: <06E07AFD-8A88-4E96-9956-E706C4F270A4@earthlink.net> I tend to agree. Seems to me that a smoother shifting box would have better longevity. No synchros or OEM top hat to break seems like a plus from the get- go. Replaceable parts help. And a superior shifting box. What's the down-side I'm missing? I understand that dog gears would not have prevented my breakage in Portland but that was only one fluke among my numerous transmission failures. Curious as to any opinion Kas may have. Greg "Lunker" Hilyer TR4 #314 Albuquerque NM Hey all I can tell you from a Spitfire guy is at 2200.00 you better buy IT!!!!!!!!! Same deal for a Spitfire is almost 5000.00 by the time it is installed and ready to run!!! Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, INC. 411 Allied Drive Nashville, TN 37211 866-455-7788 Phone 615-834-9923 Fax www.dieselperformanceparts.com -----Original Message From Lunkercars at earthlink.net Mon Nov 23 20:02:56 2009 From: Lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg "Lunker" Hilyer) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:02:56 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Trumpeting a Triumph triumph Message-ID: Took a bit of timing/scoring research but it's official - A certain purple TR4 now holds the Vintage Production lap record [1:35.33] at Sandia Motorsports Park, Albuquerque NM http://www.sandiamotorsports.com/ Previous record was a Lotus Elan at 1:35.85. On a 14 turn, 1.6 mile track with [for me] 10 shifts per lap, the dog- box sounds pretty inviting. Greg "Lunker" Hilyer TR4 #314 Albuquerque NM From mark at bradakis.com Mon Nov 23 21:15:31 2009 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:15:31 -0700 Subject: [Fot] List notes Message-ID: <4B0B5DE3.5050204@bradakis.com> The lists at Team.Net have a size limit placed on messages sent to them. Here's a perfect example of why this is so. And of course I am quite aware of the irony here. Bob Dylan once sang "fearing not I'd become my enemy in the instant that I preach" so I'll press on. In the traffic about close ratio gear sets, one message *could* have been this, enclosed in the first set of '====' ==== > Unfortunately that part number was for a differential, not a gear set. > They have no TR gear sets. Bummer. Sure looked like a good deal. too good. ==== Short, sweet, to the point, just the one line response and the line that prompted the response right at the top, making it easy to follow. What we got, however, was not so simple. Page WAY down to the next set of '====' for my comments: ==== Bummer. Sure looked like a good deal. too good. On Nov 23, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Chuck Arnold wrote: > Unfortunately that part number was for a differential, not a gear set. > They have no TR gear sets. > > On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: >> Here's the ratios. The 2.013 looks good to me. >> http://www.autotech.com/quaife/gears/triumph.htm >> On Nov 22, 2009, at 12:22 PM, Tony and Annie Garmey wrote: >> >> Hey Bill, >> Jezz what a price. Scam ?? >> Can you please have them send 2 sets to me. I'll give you a credit on Peytoe >> for cost of one set. >> Thank you. >> Tony >> 21703 234th ave SE >> Maple valley wa 98038 >> >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife >>> From: billb at bnj.com >>> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:47:19 -0800 >>> CC: horizonracing at msn.com >>> To: triosan at gmail.com >>> >>> Wow, nine hundred bucks is about $500 less than I paid a year or so ago. >>> Tony, I'm going to get one shipped to you. What address should I use. Does >>> it make more sense for you to order it? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Nov 22, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Chuck Arnold wrote: >>> >>>> I found this link: >>>> http://www.autotech.com/quaife/news.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: >>>>> Couldn't find it on their website. I'm interested. >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 21, 2009, at 8:19 PM, William G Rosenbach wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Greetings all, >>>>>> Autotech.com in California stocks Quaife gear sets and has the TR-6, >>>>>> and >>>>>> it's on SALE!. >>>>>> I cut and pasted, so I hope it posts correctly, >>>>>> Bill >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 4 SPEED DOG ENGAGEMENT GEARKIT >>>>>> >>>>>> Straight cut, close ratios gears >>>>>> Needle roller bearings support free running gears >>>>>> Includes new Quaife mainshaft >>>>>> Choice of 1st gear ratios >>>>>> GEAR RATIOS >>>>>> 1st2nd3rd4th >>>>>> 2.013 >>>>>> 2.223 1.5131.2051.000 >>>>>> >>>>>> Triumph TR6 4 speed dog engagementcall >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Prices and specifications subject to change without notice. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is your chance to get Quaife differentials and gearkits at >>>>>> never-to-be-seen-again prices. 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How many just wasted disk space, filled up quotas on recipients' mailboxes, caused unneeded work by the list archiver,used up bandwidth sending out bits we've already seen several times and served no purpose whatsoever? What, exactly, are the benefits of not editing replies? mjb. From tr3driver at ca.rr.com Mon Nov 23 22:11:51 2009 From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:11:51 -0800 Subject: [Fot] List notes In-Reply-To: <4B0B5DE3.5050204@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <20091124051152124.NPPP2218@cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com> > What, exactly, are the benefits of not editing replies? Or in other words, was this trip really necessary? :^) Randall From Group44TR7 at aol.com Tue Nov 24 11:34:28 2009 From: Group44TR7 at aol.com (Group44TR7 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:34:28 EST Subject: [Fot] Second Request - Please Reconnect Bobby Cee Message-ID: Mark Bobby is still not receiving FOT emails - _Bobbyceeracer at aol.com_ (mailto:Bobbyceeracer at aol.com) I am continuing to receive emails on AOL on a regular basis without any interruptions. Thank you for your efforts. Cary From pcdelux at att.net Tue Nov 24 12:31:49 2009 From: pcdelux at att.net (Bill DeWar) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:31:49 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Transmissions and such Message-ID: <007401ca6d3c$c654ec00$4b524c0c@userbhfzubua17> Listers, For those not aware the TR6 case to look for is the last few model years run of them. They have thicker front flanges and better side ribs. Easiest way to identify is the top cover had an extra steel support to prevent top cover breaking at rear bolts. Said transmission also had improved steel top-hat bush setup. What top-hat are those in the know using for the stock gear-sets these days? Kas? any insight? Bill Dewar NJTA From Group44TR7 at aol.com Tue Nov 24 13:19:24 2009 From: Group44TR7 at aol.com (Group44TR7 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:19:24 EST Subject: [Fot] Fwd: F.O.T Message-ID: Return-path: From: Bobbyceeracer at aol.com Full-name: Bobbyceeracer Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:30:29 EST Subject: Re: F.O.T To: Group44TR7 at aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5380 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Thanks Buddy, I would love to get involved with Triumphs again. Bobby From lang at isis.mit.edu Tue Nov 24 15:59:31 2009 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:59:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Transmissions and such In-Reply-To: <007401ca6d3c$c654ec00$4b524c0c@userbhfzubua17> References: <007401ca6d3c$c654ec00$4b524c0c@userbhfzubua17> Message-ID: [stuff deleted] > What top-hat are those in the know using for the stock gear-sets these days? I'm trying to use just steel bushings and you MUST make sure that all the end-float settings are perfect. In some cases that means the case is toast because the end float for the lay-shaft is knackered. I suppose you could use shims on the laygears to get the end-float in spec, but that's for the pros... I have no idea how to source a shim that might work on the layshaft. For the mainshaft bushings, I get steel bushings from either John Esposito (www.quantumechanics.com) or Moss (they have a "kit" that replaces the bronze with steel). Either "solution" is not cheap, the bushings alone are $150 and then you usually have to replace "stuff" that's been beaten or broken over time. Alternate gearboxes look better every day. :-) Bob "allIneedisaJericho" Lang --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent 2009 NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From tr3driver at ca.rr.com Tue Nov 24 17:54:15 2009 From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:54:15 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Transmissions and such In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091125005415610.TDOW22957@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> > In some cases that means the > case is toast > because the end float for the lay-shaft is knackered. I probably shouldn't say this ... but have you guys considered using a Stag case & countershaft? The casting is the same as late TR6, but is machined to accept roller thrust bearings instead of plain washers. Randall From mark at bradakis.com Tue Nov 24 17:55:13 2009 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:55:13 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: F.O.T In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B0C8071.4060904@bradakis.com> I hate to sound too much like an old grouch after my last diatribe about editing replies. I've been busy trying to catch up on Team.Net admin mail. There's only about 19,000 left for the 5 - 6 dozen lists I mismanage. Most of those will get filtered out and cleaned up quickly as spam. A large percentage of the ones that will remain basically amount to work I really shouldn't have to do. Each and every message to each and every list, regular or digest, has a link to the web page for the list. On this web page people can remove their old address and subscribe a new one, or set a 'vacation' hold or switch from regular to digest, see what lists are available, whatever. I try to provide the tools to make it as easy as possible for folks to reap the benefits of Team.Net in various ways. I try to be polite and helpful as best I can, but sometimes I do wonder why I do what I do. For those of you who celebrate the occasion, have a nice Thanksgiving. mjb. From mark at bradakis.com Tue Nov 24 18:53:08 2009 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:53:08 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: F.O.T In-Reply-To: <4B0C8071.4060904@bradakis.com> References: <4B0C8071.4060904@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <4B0C8E04.9030007@bradakis.com> Just had a realization - I got a flu shot this morning. I must be extra cranky today because I think I am getting a bit sick from it. Hopefully it will not be an issue for fixing dinner thursday. I'll quit whining now, and return to my prestigious, high-paying position as chief toilet scrubber for Team.Net. mjb. From jmwagner at greenheart.com Tue Nov 24 18:53:50 2009 From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:53:50 -0800 Subject: [Fot] EBAY: old RACING Photo *Helmet Man in TRIUMPH TR2 RACE CAR* Message-ID: <4B0C8E2E.7010501@greenheart.com> There's an anonymous photo of a TR2 on ebay... maybe someone can identify it, etc. --Justin http://i.ebayimg.com/15/!Bf0RrnQBWk~$(KGrHqEH-DsEsKb8vgI)BLCvnmY2hQ~~_3.JPG old RACING Photo *Helmet Man in TRIUMPH TR2 RACE CAR* http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/old-RACING-Photo-Helmet-Man-in-TRIUMPH-TR2-RACE-CAR_W0QQitemZ140362309203QQcmdZViewItemQQptZArt_Photo_Images?hash=item20ae3ede53 From Herald948 at aol.com Tue Nov 24 20:14:31 2009 From: Herald948 at aol.com (Herald948 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:14:31 EST Subject: [Fot] Fwd: F.O.T Message-ID: In a message dated 11/24/2009 8:27:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mark at bradakis.com writes: I try to provide the tools to make it as easy as possible for folks to reap the benefits of Team.Net in various ways. I try to be polite and helpful as best I can, but sometimes I do wonder why I do what I do. For those of you who celebrate the occasion, have a nice Thanksgiving. ==AM== Likewise to you, Mark! Funny thing about e-mail lists and their subscribers.... One might think that librarians and others in related educational fields might have clues about how some of this technology works. WRONG-O, gigabyte breath! I oversee a good three dozen or so Listserv e-mail lists as part of my job at the NYS Library, and it never ceases to amaze me how people on those lists can ignore both generic and customized "welcome" messages sent them, not to mention pretty clear details on how to handle basics of leaving the list or changing subscription options that are included in footers attached to each message. The difference between you and me is mostly in that the politically and financially near-bankrupt State of New York tosses me some money every couple of weeks for putting up with all that. Oh, in fairness, I will say that there are many, many folk who get caught when their library or other employer goes and screws up their e-mail client and/or changes userids without warning and often without a grace period. I'm happy to help them out, and most of them are grateful. Hang in there; even we PITA AOL subscribers (especially we AOL subscribers) truly appreciate all your efforts! --Andy Mace *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Register: _http://www.vtr.org_ (http://www.vtr.org/) Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database: _http://triumph-herald.us_ (http://triumph-herald.us/) From tony at tonydrews.com Tue Nov 24 20:52:59 2009 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:52:59 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: F.O.T In-Reply-To: <4B0C8071.4060904@bradakis.com> References: <4B0C8071.4060904@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <20091125035331.C718F187684@autox.team.net> I set up a little Nascar league and use Google Groups as my e-mail mechanism. I think my top number of folks in my league has been 20. Every single e-mail sent through that list includes a big ol' blurb about where to go to manage your settings and an "unsubscribe" link. I had someone get pissy about my delay in sending out results and leave the league. At the beginning of the next year he was very vocal about "please remove me from the list". I took care of it manually, but he could have done it himself for half of the effort of sending me and the entire list the nastygram. And this is for a closed friend-referral group. I can't imagine handling the lists that you deal with. Cheers, Tony Drews At 06:55 PM 11/24/2009, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > > >I try to provide the tools to make it as easy as possible for folks to >reap the benefits of Team.Net in various ways. I try to be polite >and helpful as best I can, but sometimes I do wonder why I do what >I do. > >For those of you who celebrate the occasion, have a nice Thanksgiving. > >mjb. From jaboruch at netzero.net Tue Nov 24 21:02:16 2009 From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:02:16 GMT Subject: [Fot] TR4 Fiberglass Message-ID: <20091124.230216.8160.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> FOTers, I recently bought a TR4 that has not raced since the late 70's or early 80's. I will eventually get it back on the track with SCCA, but it will take some time. Do any of you have any fiberglass bits that you would be interested in selling? There are probably at least a few vintage cars out there that were SCCA cars with flared glass fenders that were converted back to steel, leaving the glass collecting dust. Joe(B) ____________________________________________________________ Regis University MBA Earn your MBA from Regis University, 100% online. Free info packs! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/c?cp=naTUzpIXLd03YEEXQoA9jwAAJz6U 0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAPHCbj4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAiHkAAAAAA= From billb at bnj.com Tue Nov 24 21:33:28 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:33:28 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: F.O.T In-Reply-To: <20091125035331.C718F187684@autox.team.net> References: <4B0C8071.4060904@bradakis.com> <20091125035331.C718F187684@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <724A9ACC-5DB5-43BE-8222-1D1D34667FFE@bnj.com> You should have told him to get hosed. I had some clown causing problems on my Ke Nalu site, bitching about my lack of attention. This for a site that carries no advertising, that I do for fun. I blocked him from the site, then he started sending me email bitching at me. So I added his email address to my spam filter. So then he set up some gmail addresses and bitched at me. So I subscribed him to about 500 email newsletters. I felt he just had too much time on his hands. On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:52 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > I set up a little Nascar league and use Google Groups as my e-mail mechanism. I think my top number of folks in my league has been 20. Every single e-mail sent through that list includes a big ol' blurb about where to go to manage your settings and an "unsubscribe" link. I had someone get pissy about my delay in sending out results and leave the league. At the beginning of the next year he was very vocal about "please remove me from the list". I took care of it manually, but he could have done it himself for half of the effort of sending me and the entire list the nastygram. And this is for a closed friend-referral group. > > I can't imagine handling the lists that you deal with. > > Cheers, Tony Drews > > At 06:55 PM 11/24/2009, Mark J Bradakis wrote: >> >> >> I try to provide the tools to make it as easy as possible for folks to >> reap the benefits of Team.Net in various ways. I try to be polite >> and helpful as best I can, but sometimes I do wonder why I do what >> I do. >> >> For those of you who celebrate the occasion, have a nice Thanksgiving. >> >> mjb. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com From horizonracing at msn.com Wed Nov 25 12:53:11 2009 From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:53:11 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Message-ID: All, A Local machine shop has a 1300 spitfire Engine block(cleaned and deglazed) crank and pistons for sale..........Make an offer. Has be waiting for the Owner to return for over 10 years. Pacific Auto machine, Renton Wa. 98057. 425 226 0930 I'm only going what was told to me. I only saw the parts sitting on a shelf in a bag!! Tony From bkahler1 at gmail.com Wed Nov 25 15:51:36 2009 From: bkahler1 at gmail.com (Brad Kahler) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:51:36 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tony, I just got off the phone with Gary and in talking with him we determined that the engine is a 1300 large journal. The package includes the block, crank (turned .010 & .010) , pistons, rods, pan, cam and possibly a few other items. Thanks for posting! Brad On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Tony and Annie Garmey wrote: > All, > > A Local machine shop has a 1300 spitfire Engine block(cleaned and deglazed) > crank and pistons for sale..........Make an offer. Has be waiting for the > Owner to return for over 10 years. > > Pacific Auto machine, Renton Wa. 98057. 425 226 0930 > > > > I'm only going what was told to me. I only saw the parts sitting on a shelf in > a bag!! > > > > Tony > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkahler1 at gmail.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as bkahler1 at gmail.com From fasttrs at mindspring.com Wed Nov 25 15:57:03 2009 From: fasttrs at mindspring.com (Mike Munson) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:57:03 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife/Lincoln Locker Message-ID: <31197664.1259189823642.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Based on the female/male spend ratio as you quoted, I figure I've at least 10k coming for race car goodies. Hope she sees it that way! Off to the machine shop. >Thanks for the advice. >Jeff D. Good Luck with that, Jeff!! Mike From cak at dimebank.com Thu Nov 26 10:05:05 2009 From: cak at dimebank.com (Chris Kantarjiev) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:05:05 -0800 Subject: [Fot] need GT6+ 3.89 r&p Message-ID: <4B0EB541.7060304@dimebank.com> OK, it's time to get moving on this project again. I got the rear diff apart some weeks back and we found quite a bit of unusual damage on the R&P. Needs to be replaced - and with it, of course, the usual complement of bearings and seals and whatnot. And I guess I'll be taking the Quaife apart to clean, too, what fun. I'm not sure if I'm better off getting just a r&p or a complete but good diff to modify... So ... I have no idea where I might get a proper set or what it might cost. Help? Thanks, chris From cwnfot at gmail.com Fri Nov 27 06:25:06 2009 From: cwnfot at gmail.com (Clark W. Nicholls) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:25:06 -0500 Subject: [Fot] need GT6+ 3.89 r&p In-Reply-To: <4B0EB541.7060304@dimebank.com> References: <4B0EB541.7060304@dimebank.com> Message-ID: <006901ca6f65$09ba8840$1d2f98c0$@com> Is there a difference between a GT6+ 3.89 and a Spitfire 1500 3.89 ? Clark From cak at dimebank.com Fri Nov 27 08:48:27 2009 From: cak at dimebank.com (Chris Kantarjiev) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:48:27 -0800 Subject: [Fot] need GT6+ 3.89 r&p In-Reply-To: <006901ca6f65$09ba8840$1d2f98c0$@com> References: <4B0EB541.7060304@dimebank.com> <006901ca6f65$09ba8840$1d2f98c0$@com> Message-ID: <4B0FF4CB.3010505@dimebank.com> Clark W. Nicholls wrote: > Is there a difference between a GT6+ 3.89 and a Spitfire 1500 3.89 ? > Clark Yes, but the Spit box will fit the GT6 :-) There are some detail changes (spring mounting) and some component changes in the later rear axle, mostly for the better (as I recall, the stub axle shafts are bigger diameter). I'm open to the Spitfire 1500 diff, too, since that's what was in the car (and got chewed up). From 19to1tr6 at comcast.net Mon Nov 30 21:10:07 2009 From: 19to1tr6 at comcast.net (Rob) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:10:07 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Fiberglass/tr6 In-Reply-To: <20091124.230216.8160.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> References: <20091124.230216.8160.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: thank you for stating it so well Joe Does any one have the bits for a 6 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Boruch" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:02 PM Subject: [Fot] TR4 Fiberglass > FOTers, I recently bought a TR4 that has not raced since the late 70's or > early 80's. I will eventually get it back on the track with SCCA, but it > will > take some time. Do any of you have any fiberglass bits that you would be > interested in selling? There are probably at least a few vintage cars out > there that were SCCA cars with flared glass fenders that were converted > back > to steel, leaving the glass collecting dust. Joe(B) > > ____________________________________________________________ > Regis University MBA > Earn your MBA from Regis University, 100% online. Free info packs! > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/c?cp=naTUzpIXLd03YEEXQoA9jwAAJz6U > 0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAPHCbj4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAiHkAAAAAA= > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net From bownes at seiri.com Fri Nov 27 22:06:52 2009 From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:06:52 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Fiberglass/tr6 In-Reply-To: References: <20091124.230216.8160.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: I have four stock 'glass fenders for a tr6. But they are attached to a TR6 that I'm trying to part with at the same time as the fenders. Anyone need a TR6 project? On 11/30/09, Rob <19to1tr6 at comcast.net> wrote: > thank you for stating it so well Joe Does any one have the bits > for a 6 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Boruch" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:02 PM > Subject: [Fot] TR4 Fiberglass > > >> FOTers, I recently bought a TR4 that has not raced since the late 70's or >> early 80's. I will eventually get it back on the track with SCCA, but it >> will >> take some time. Do any of you have any fiberglass bits that you would be >> interested in selling? There are probably at least a few vintage cars out >> there that were SCCA cars with flared glass fenders that were converted >> back >> to steel, leaving the glass collecting dust. Joe(B) >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Regis University MBA >> Earn your MBA from Regis University, 100% online. Free info packs! >> http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/c?cp=naTUzpIXLd03YEEXQoA9jwAAJz6U >> 0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAPHCbj4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAiHkAAAAAA= >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> >> >> You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bownes at web9.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as bownes at web9.com From n197tr4 at cs.com Sat Nov 28 06:47:27 2009 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:47:27 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Fiberglass/tr6 In-Reply-To: References: <20091124.230216.8160.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <8CC3E48750ABED8-2220-2DDA6@webmail-m015.sysops.aol.com> FOT & Joe B I have a full set of flares fenders, but they are steel. Ed Diehl has some fibreglass parts and the molds, but I dont think they are flared. Joe A -----Original Message----- From: Rob <19to1tr6 at comcast.net> To: Joe Boruch ; fot at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, Nov 30, 2009 10:10 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Fiberglass/tr6 thank you for stating it so well Joe Does any one have the bits for a 6 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Boruch" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:02 PM Subject: [Fot] TR4 Fiberglass > FOTers, I recently bought a TR4 that has not raced since the late 70's or > early 80's. I will eventually get it back on the track with SCCA, but it > will > take some time. Do any of you have any fiberglass bits that you would be > interested in selling? There are probably at least a few vintage cars out > there that were SCCA cars with flared glass fenders that were converted > back > to steel, leaving the glass collecting dust. Joe(B) > > ____________________________________________________________ > Regis University MBA > Earn your MBA from Regis University, 100% online. Free info packs! > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/c?cp=naTUzpIXLd03YEEXQoA9jwAAJz6U > 0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAPHCbj4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAiHkAAAAAA= > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net You are subscribed as n197tr4 at cs.com http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as n197tr4 at cs.com From mike.mehl at yahoo.com Sun Nov 29 16:15:22 2009 From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:15:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] HS6 carburetor question Message-ID: <440082.25337.qm@web46114.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I am looking for some help on my HS6 carbs. According to Kas Kastner's book he suggest that you modify the spring that holds the jet head up in place. Tim Murphy sent me some nice photo's of how he did this but his carbs appear to be a different SU model. Can some one send me photo's of how they 'wired' theirs. Of all the photos I took while at the KAS cup this past summer I don't have any good photos of the carbs. Thanks for the help. Mike From mpendy at dishmail.net Sun Nov 29 16:52:44 2009 From: mpendy at dishmail.net (Mark Pendergrass) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:52:44 -0800 Subject: [Fot] HS6 carburetor question References: <440082.25337.qm@web46114.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <79F28D6A8E594E10822E6023D8470D1E@Pendys> Hey Mike; maybe you have H6 carb's and not HS6 and are you utilizing the chokes or not ? Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Mehl" To: "Triumph Friends of" Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 3:15 PM Subject: [Fot] HS6 carburetor question >I am looking for some help on my HS6 carbs. According to Kas Kastner's >book > he suggest that you modify the spring that holds the jet head up in place. > Tim Murphy sent me some nice photo's of how he did this but his carbs > appear > to be a different SU model. Can some one send me photo's of how they > 'wired' > theirs. Of all the photos I took while at the KAS cup this past summer I > don't have any good photos of the carbs. Thanks for the help. > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mpendy at dishmail.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as mpendy at dishmail.net From s.janzen at comcast.net Sun Nov 29 18:29:41 2009 From: s.janzen at comcast.net (Scott Janzen) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:29:41 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Turkey Bowl and GT6 Message-ID: The GT6 ran like a dream this weekend at Summit Point, well, other than a leaky cork valve cover gasket dumping oil on the headers first session (the bugger migrated out from under the alloy cover), and a misfire that showed up late in the second session. After checking the (tan) plugs, timing and point gap, I thought of TeriAnn's comments and sanded and installed a new Mallory condenser, and ran a ground wire to the distributor. Next outing was flawless and the car ran great the rest of the weekend. Don't know which of the two fixes worked, but I'm keeping both in place. There are other things to do over the winter, but the weekend was a hoot! Other FOT folks in attendance included Rich Rock, Craig Wensley and John Herrara (I apologize if I am missing anyone else that was there). There was one other all-Triumph running, a Spitfire in BRG that matched mine, Rich's TVR with a 2.5 six, and a pretty, small Peerless GT coupe that had a TR4 engine in it! All in all, I'm guessing there were about 80 cars, grouped in under two liter vintage, over two liter vintage, open wheel and sports racer vintage, and a modern group that included a flock of Legends, at least one Stocker, and some other newer machinery. Friday was reportedly grey and damp, but by the time I showed up Friday evening the wind was blowing the damp away and Saturday dawned sunny and dry. Mid 50s Saturday and 60 Sunday, 35-40 at night, perfect cool weather for a car I usually roast in during the summer! Lots of track time in two days with two practice sessions, a 10 lap race, a 15 lap race and a 45 minute enduro, plus the Friday I missed. Summit Point's main course was in pretty rough shape in turn one and the carousel, but it is reportedly being re-paved in March-April and will be ready for the Jefferson 500 in May ( I believe being sponsored by Vintage Racing Group). Hope to see some other East Coast Triumphs there in the spring. BTW, if anyone knows how to build a GT6 trans that does not drip oil on the exhaust, I am all ears. The vent hole is clear, but it just seems to ooze Redline out the gaskets and the front oil seal (which has been replaced twice). From jmwagner at greenheart.com Sun Nov 29 21:37:28 2009 From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:37:28 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Ebay: Vandervell Bearings Message-ID: <4B134C08.3060505@greenheart.com> Friends, There's some various sized Vandervell bearings for TR2-4 on Ebaymotors right now. Correct me if I'm wrong, but these have always been held in high regard. I haven't seen them come up very often, so I thought I'd mention it. --Justin From GRMTim at aol.com Mon Nov 30 06:56:15 2009 From: GRMTim at aol.com (GRMTim at aol.com) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:56:15 EST Subject: [Fot] New Small-Bore race series Message-ID: We organized this with the FOT in mind. Let me know what you think. Tim Suddard Publisher; Classic Motorsports and Grassroots Motorsports magazines www.classicmotorsports.net www.grassrootsmotorsports.com Phone: (386) 673-4148 Fax: (386) 673-6040 2010 Classic MotorsportsB Cup Announcing a new, four event, mini-enduro road race series for 2010. This series runs on tracks from Florida to Ohio, and is designed to lower the cost and put the fun back into small-bore production car racing. The most unique feature of this series, is that the entry fee will be FREE to anyone already entered at that weekendbs regular event. This series has many unique features, as the pre-1965 requirement will focus on the MGs, Triumphs, Alfa and Porsche 356s who usually donbt get the lionb s share of attention at most race weekends. HSR president, Steve Simpson, states bWe are listening to our customers and with rising costs and more and more focus on newer and faster machinery, we wanted to refocus our efforts on the guys that make up the back-bone of classic car racing, the small-bore production racers of the fifties and early sixties.b SVRA president Howard Turner adds bSVRA is pleased to host the Series at two of our fine venues, and we look forward to seeing the MGs, Triumphs, Alfas and Porsche 356s get top billing and the significant additional track time. It should be a big plus for these cars that are the traditional backbone of our sport,b Classic Motorsports publisher, Tim Suddard says, bWe were looking for ways to put more fun back into small-bore production racing. The Mini-enduro format will offer a lot of seat time without adding to the expense of a race weekend. A longer format would get too expensive in regards to consumables like tires and fuel. The mandatory pit stop will really help those racers who want to share rides, which will add to the fun and further lower expenses.b Drivers in the series will be urged to pit together at races to further build camaraderie. The guys at Classic Motorsports, HSR and SVRA will be throwing a free welcome party on Thursday night of each race weekend to make sure the events kick off in a fun and friendlyB atmosphere. From GRMTim at aol.com Mon Nov 30 06:58:08 2009 From: GRMTim at aol.com (GRMTim at aol.com) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:58:08 EST Subject: [Fot] something for nothing Message-ID: Sorry to be a list crasher, but couldn't let this opportunity go by without letting you guys know about it. Morris Mino wagon is a cool story. Tim Suddard Publisher; Classic Motorsports and Grassroots Motorsports magazines www.classicmotorsports.net www.grassrootsmotorsports.com Phone: (386) 673-4148 Fax: (386) 673-6040 GRM Celebrates 25 Years with some of our Favorite Cars- Grassroots Motorsports is celebrating 25 years of low-buck, high-output editorial, and we're creating a treat for you: an online e-pub version of our 25th anniversary print edition. The electronic version of our 25th anniversary edition is being offered free to you, your friends, and even your friends' friends. You can sign up now for immediate access by logging on to grassroootsmotorsports.com/digital. This special issue contains features at the very core of our interests-and yours. The issue begins with a countdown of the 25 Most Important Cars to enthusiasts like us. From the Chevy Camaro to the MINI Cooper, you'll see a collection the great ones that have defined the Grassroots Motorsports experience. You know that the Mazda Miata is on that list as well, so the issue also shines a spotlight on 10 Important Miatas from our history. You won't want to miss the video walkaround of a trio of GRM Miata projects, from mild to wild, available only in the digital format. Grassroots Motorsports Magazine is the home for in-depth technical articles, so this anniversary issue will be filled with a video-enhanced look at the future when you get to go inside the workings of the newest batch of Twin-Clutch Automatic Transmissions. By signing up for the e-pub, you'll also get our most anticipated buyer's guide to date on the Acura Integra Type R. You'll especially want to look at the video supplement to the buyers guide, available only by signing up to receive the electronic version of Grassroots Motorsports. You'll also find a grip of event coverage, including SCCA Solo National Championships as well as a recap of the NASA Nationals. Just for fun, you'll also get an inside look at the 24 Hours of LeMons series. These events will also have bonus material available to you only in the free digital edition of the magazine. Signing up to receive the e-pub will ensure you're among the first to see the assortment of feature cars gathered for this special issue, including a Toyota twin-cam powered Morris Minor and the K-PAX/3R Volvo S60 World Challenge Racer. It's our birthday, but you are getting the present. Sign up today for your free digital issue! Sincerely, Your Friends at Grassroots Motorsports Magazine From info at dieselperformanceparts.com Mon Nov 30 07:32:46 2009 From: info at dieselperformanceparts.com (Diesel Performance Parts Inc. - Info) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:32:46 -0600 Subject: [Fot] HSR/SVRA GRM Mini Enduro Series Message-ID: <55CB8270B7388B478DC7AC2A39A97C5A63C408@isis.dieselperformanceparts.local> Morning membership, Some great news here from Tim Suddard @ GRM magazine: We organized this with the FOT in mind. Let me know what you think. Tim Suddard Publisher; Classic Motorsports and Grassroots Motorsports magazines www.classicmotorsports.net www.grassrootsmotorsports.com Phone: (386) 673-4148 Fax: (386) 673-6040 2010 Classic MotorsportsB Cup Announcing a new, four event, mini-enduro road race series for 2010. This series runs on tracks from Florida to Ohio, and is designed to lower the cost and put the fun back into small-bore production car racing. The most unique feature of this series, is that the entry fee will be FREE to anyone already entered at that weekendbs regular event. This series has many unique features, as the pre-1965 requirement will focus on the MGs, Triumphs, Alfa and Porsche 356s who usually donbt get the lionb s share of attention at most race weekends. HSR president, Steve Simpson, states bWe are listening to our customers and with rising costs and more and more focus on newer and faster machinery, we wanted to refocus our efforts on the guys that make up the back-bone of classic car racing, the small-bore production racers of the fifties and early sixties.b SVRA president Howard Turner adds bSVRA is pleased to host the Series at two of our fine venues, and we look forward to seeing the MGs, Triumphs, Alfas and Porsche 356s get top billing and the significant additional track time. It should be a big plus for these cars that are the traditional backbone of our sport,b Classic Motorsports publisher, Tim Suddard says, bWe were looking for ways to put more fun back into small-bore production racing. The Mini-enduro format will offer a lot of seat time without adding to the expense of a race weekend. A longer format would get too expensive in regards to consumables like tires and fuel. The mandatory pit stop will really help those racers who want to share rides, which will add to the fun and further lower expenses.b Drivers in the series will be urged to pit together at races to further build camaraderie. The guys at Classic Motorsports, HSR and SVRA will be throwing a free welcome party on Thursday night of each race weekend to make sure the events kick off in a fun and friendlyB atmosphere. My opinion: Tim, I think it's GREAT!!! I hope all the FOT membership gets involved. It'll show HSR/SVRA where their true dollars come from and who REALLY supports the sport. Won't be a bunch of us arriving in SEMI's but our checks clear the bank just fine!!!! Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, INC. 411 Allied Drive Nashville, TN 37211 866-455-7788 Phone 615-834-9923 Fax www.dieselperformanceparts.com From list at mackenzie.aero Mon Nov 30 07:58:52 2009 From: list at mackenzie.aero (Robert MacKenzie) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:58:52 -0600 Subject: [Fot] FOT List members in Raleigh, NC? Message-ID: <005a01ca71cd$a1fb0f20$e5f12d60$@aero> Are there any FOT folks in the Raleigh, NC area who could do me a big favor? I may need some help picking up an engine & gearbox, getting them on a pallet and shipping them back to Texas. I am going to be in Raleigh late next week. Please contact me off list at: Robert at mackenzie.aero Thanx Robert MacKenzie Austin Texas '79 1500 (street) '62 Spitfire 4 (race) From ofbracing at nefcom.net Mon Nov 30 10:17:06 2009 From: ofbracing at nefcom.net (ofbracing) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:17:06 -0500 Subject: [Fot] New Small-Bore race series In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It's great that the big organizers are finally getting interested in us. In the meantime, we shouldn't forget the smaller not-for-profit organizers that have been supporting us all along and usually at much lower cost. In the Southeast we're fortunate to have the VDCA, which has always given us lots of track time AND has always included a free Enduro. I'm sure there are similar groups elsewhere that deserve our continued support. This seems like a good time to remind everyone about VDCA's event coming up December 11-13 at Roebling Road. In addition to tons of track time and the free Enduro, they're doing an oyster roast and pig pickin' on Saturday night. On Friday night the Triumph Ghetto will be doing our usual Surf n' Turf dinner extravaganza and all Triumph drivers, crew and hangers-on are invited. Don -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of GRMTim at aol.com Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:56 AM To: FOT at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] New Small-Bore race series We organized this with the FOT in mind. Let me know what you think. Tim Suddard Publisher; Classic Motorsports and Grassroots Motorsports magazines www.classicmotorsports.net www.grassrootsmotorsports.com Phone: (386) 673-4148 Fax: (386) 673-6040 2010 Classic MotorsportsB Cup Announcing a new, four event, mini-enduro road race series for 2010. This series runs on tracks from Florida to Ohio, and is designed to lower the cost and put the fun back into small-bore production car racing. The most unique feature of this series, is that the entry fee will be FREE to anyone already entered at that weekendbs regular event. This series has many unique features, as the pre-1965 requirement will focus on the MGs, Triumphs, Alfa and Porsche 356s who usually donbt get the lionb s share of attention at most race weekends. HSR president, Steve Simpson, states bWe are listening to our customers and with rising costs and more and more focus on newer and faster machinery, we wanted to refocus our efforts on the guys that make up the back-bone of classic car racing, the small-bore production racers of the fifties and early sixties.b SVRA president Howard Turner adds bSVRA is pleased to host the Series at two of our fine venues, and we look forward to seeing the MGs, Triumphs, Alfas and Porsche 356s get top billing and the significant additional track time. It should be a big plus for these cars that are the traditional backbone of our sport,b Classic Motorsports publisher, Tim Suddard says, bWe were looking for ways to put more fun back into small-bore production racing. The Mini-enduro format will offer a lot of seat time without adding to the expense of a race weekend. A longer format would get too expensive in regards to consumables like tires and fuel. The mandatory pit stop will really help those racers who want to share rides, which will add to the fun and further lower expenses.b Drivers in the series will be urged to pit together at races to further build camaraderie. The guys at Classic Motorsports, HSR and SVRA will be throwing a free welcome party on Thursday night of each race weekend to make sure the events kick off in a fun and friendlyB atmosphere. You are subscribed as ofbracing at nefcom.net http://www.fot-racing.com From jmwagner at greenheart.com Mon Nov 30 12:46:36 2009 From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:46:36 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Some racing parts for sale on Craigslist Message-ID: <4B14211C.7000802@greenheart.com> I ran into these on Craigslist, I thought it might be of interest to someone here.... (I don't know the seller.) --Justin Triumph TR-2 through TR-4 Big Bore 87MM. Piston Set and Head Gasket. These are Hepolite Power Max Piston Set (which are better than the REPCO Brand) ... sacramento.craigslist.org/pts/1487293919.html Triumph TR-2 3 4 Iskenderian B- Racing Cam and new bearings $200.00 obo. My number is (916)308-4222. Location: Fair Oaks; it's NOT ok to contact this poster ... sacramento.craigslist.org/pts/1487362811.html From dos_gusanos at msn.com Mon Nov 30 14:02:02 2009 From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (dos_gusanos at msn.com) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:02:02 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Parts needed for projects............ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you for the many replies to my email. I was able to come up with all the parts I needed off the list. .............................Cheers Henry Morrison > > Hello Gang, My son has laid down the challenge that i can't get my TR4 > running by June. Rather than go through the pain and humiliation of paying > him 50 clams, I am willing to pay nearly any amount for the following parts > that are missing from the project. From trmarty at hotmail.com Mon Nov 30 18:23:22 2009 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:23:22 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Panasport question Message-ID: I am looking to replace one of my FS series Panasports I bent last year. Panasport tells me FS are no longer made, they built new tooling and are now making FZ series wheel. Suposidly they are the same or close enough that I will not see any difference next to my other 3 wheels. I do not see the FZ's on the Panasport web site. Anybody have FZ's to know if they do indeed look the same? Marty _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ From vintage.racer at comcast.net Mon Nov 30 18:30:35 2009 From: vintage.racer at comcast.net (Gary Horstkorta) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:30:35 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Plastic Window Remedy Message-ID: <000001ca7225$e20a1b30$a61e5190$@racer@comcast.net> Hello: I thought I'd pass along a quick remedy to the dreaded "cloudy" plastic windows that affect soft tops over time. The windows in my TR6 were on their way to being opaque which made driving with the top up a safety hazard. I first tried using Mequiar's PlastX, a plastic cleaner & polish, but with no improvement. Next, I tried a bottle of plastic polish I found in the back of my garage cabinet called Novus Plastic Polish No. 2. I had purchased this product a few years ago from the local TAP Plastics store to clean the plastic windshield on my racecar. Using a microfiber hand applicator I applied the polish to both the inside and outside of my tops plastic windows then wiped it with a terry cloth towel. After about thirty minutes of work, the windows are virtually as good as new...I was amazed at the results. I checked the Internet and Novus has a website at www.novuspolish.com. FYI, I have no financial interest in this product, just want to pass along the info for a product that worked for me. Gary 69 TR6 62 TR4 From jmwagner at tstonramp.com Mon Nov 30 19:24:06 2009 From: jmwagner at tstonramp.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:24:06 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Plastic Window Remedy In-Reply-To: <000001ca7225$e20a1b30$a61e5190$@racer@comcast.net> References: <000001ca7225$e20a1b30$a61e5190$@racer@comcast.net> Message-ID: Novus #2 is good stuff. Focus on the inside first. It is my experience that most of the clouding issues are, surprisingly, on the inside. --Justin On Nov 30, 2009, at 5:30 PM, "Gary Horstkorta" wrote: > Hello: > > > > I thought I'd pass along a quick remedy to the dreaded "cloudy" > plastic > windows that affect soft tops over time. The windows in my TR6 were > on > their way to being opaque which made driving with the top up a safety > hazard. I first tried using Mequiar's PlastX, a plastic cleaner & > polish, > but with no improvement. Next, I tried a bottle of plastic polish I > found > in the back of my garage cabinet called Novus Plastic Polish No. 2. > I had > purchased this product a few years ago from the local TAP Plastics > store to > clean the plastic windshield on my racecar. > > > > Using a microfiber hand applicator I applied the polish to both the > inside > and outside of my tops plastic windows then wiped it with a terry > cloth > towel. After about thirty minutes of work, the windows are > virtually as > good as new...I was amazed at the results. I checked the Internet > and Novus > has a website at www.novuspolish.com. FYI, I have no financial > interest in > this product, just want to pass along the info for a product that > worked for > me. > > > > Gary > > > > 69 TR6 > > 62 TR4 > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jmwagner at greenheart.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as jmwagner at greenheart.com From billb at bnj.com Mon Nov 30 20:18:58 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:18:58 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Plastic Window Remedy In-Reply-To: References: <000001ca7225$e20a1b30$a61e5190$@racer@comcast.net> Message-ID: The inside clouding is usually aromatics. What the car biz calls Vinyl fog, but really it's all the polymers floating around inside your car looking for a place to stick to. They really stick everywhere but they show up on windows. On Nov 30, 2009, at 6:24 PM, Justin Wagner wrote: > Novus #2 is good stuff. Focus on the inside first. It is my experience that most of the clouding issues are, surprisingly, on the inside. --Justin > > > > On Nov 30, 2009, at 5:30 PM, "Gary Horstkorta" wrote: > >> Hello: >> >> >> >> I thought I'd pass along a quick remedy to the dreaded "cloudy" plastic >> windows that affect soft tops over time. The windows in my TR6 were on >> their way to being opaque which made driving with the top up a safety >> hazard. I first tried using Mequiar's PlastX, a plastic cleaner & polish, >> but with no improvement. Next, I tried a bottle of plastic polish I found >> in the back of my garage cabinet called Novus Plastic Polish No. 2. I had >> purchased this product a few years ago from the local TAP Plastics store to >> clean the plastic windshield on my racecar. >> >> >> >> Using a microfiber hand applicator I applied the polish to both the inside >> and outside of my tops plastic windows then wiped it with a terry cloth >> towel. After about thirty minutes of work, the windows are virtually as >> good as new...I was amazed at the results. I checked the Internet and Novus >> has a website at www.novuspolish.com. FYI, I have no financial interest in >> this product, just want to pass along the info for a product that worked for >> me. >> >> >> >> Gary >> >> >> >> 69 TR6 >> >> 62 TR4 >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as jmwagner at greenheart.com >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> >> >> You are subscribed as jmwagner at greenheart.com > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com From billb at bnj.com Mon Nov 30 20:22:08 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:22:08 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Plastic Window Remedy In-Reply-To: <000001ca7225$e20a1b30$a61e5190$@racer@comcast.net> References: <000001ca7225$e20a1b30$a61e5190$@racer@comcast.net> Message-ID: <12DA79FF-4702-4ADD-BB9D-7FCCFEDE3B87@bnj.com> No question, best plastic polish I've ever tried. comes in two forms that i know of #1 and #2. #2 has some fine grit to it and removes scratches. Also apparently fills them somehow. Probably a soluble polymer like the old eagle One plastic polish had (it was really good too, but Valveoline changed the formula and now it sux) #1 is more of a cleaner/polish and fills scratches but doesn't buff. Both are magic and great for lexan shields. My helmet visors last 10X longer because of these products. On Nov 30, 2009, at 5:30 PM, Gary Horstkorta wrote: > Hello: > > > > I thought I'd pass along a quick remedy to the dreaded "cloudy" plastic > windows that affect soft tops over time. The windows in my TR6 were on > their way to being opaque which made driving with the top up a safety > hazard. I first tried using Mequiar's PlastX, a plastic cleaner & polish, > but with no improvement. Next, I tried a bottle of plastic polish I found > in the back of my garage cabinet called Novus Plastic Polish No. 2. I had > purchased this product a few years ago from the local TAP Plastics store to > clean the plastic windshield on my racecar. > > > > Using a microfiber hand applicator I applied the polish to both the inside > and outside of my tops plastic windows then wiped it with a terry cloth > towel. After about thirty minutes of work, the windows are virtually as > good as new...I was amazed at the results. I checked the Internet and Novus > has a website at www.novuspolish.com. FYI, I have no financial interest in > this product, just want to pass along the info for a product that worked for > me. > > > > Gary > > > > 69 TR6 > > 62 TR4 > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com From norlinengineering at comcast.net Sun Nov 1 09:41:00 2009 From: norlinengineering at comcast.net (Norlin Engineering) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:41:00 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Joe's Spit Bench - "Love Seat" - No Triumph Content In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <141B2B772F2949629E4430E89F7805FE@TOSHIBALAPTOP> This story brings back a favorite memory from the late 60's. My friends and I were having an afternoon kegger at a remote location on the Sandy River outside of Portland, OR. Three of the young ladies in attendance asked if I would drive them the few miles into the closest gas station so they wouldn't have to use the cover of the trees like the guys did. We all piled into my 1960 MGA for the short drive. While I was waiting in the car for the girls to come out of the restroom, a local man drove in and started talking with the gas station attendant. As the first of the three (all good looking brunettes) got into the car with me he glanced my way and sort of smiled. When the second one came out, he got a great big grin on his face. When the third one joined us, I would have needed a putty knife to scrape his jaw off the ground. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Group44TR7 at aol.com Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 6:27 AM To: spitlist at cox.net; dave at microworks.net; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Joe's Spit Bench - "Love Seat" Frequented an eating establishment back in Bayfield Wisconsin that was a daily breakfast hang out for local fisherman. Parked the car outside. As I walked inside, I heard the last of the conversation about my car "So what if its attracts women, it ain't got a back seat, so what good is it?" Obviously, he would not have made that remark if I had Joe's "love seat". Under the circumstances - with no love seat - I did the only thing possible. I returned the next morning at the same time with my date for the weekend knowing the same group of fisherman would be there. My date, who was a 5' 10" model, was very sporting about the whole situation. She could not have played the situation any better from her choice of clothes to her hanging on me as we walked to the door. As we entered the establishment, I looked directly at the man who made the remark, at which point the other fisherman at his table erupted with laughter. Cary Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From jimhearn1 at comcast.net Sun Nov 1 10:42:07 2009 From: jimhearn1 at comcast.net (jimhearn1 at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 17:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Broken or cracked diff mount Message-ID: <1465989874.3170381257097327375.JavaMail.root@sz0175a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Sorry, I meant to say on my vibration problem that the car is a 1974 TR6. From tr4racing at googlemail.com Mon Nov 2 03:52:02 2009 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:52:02 +0100 Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed In-Reply-To: <990103.26601.qm@web46107.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <990103.26601.qm@web46107.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001301ca5baa$846c52e0$8d44f8a0$@com> I moved on to a 16 row cooler. I don't know the hose size bit it is about 0.4" inside diameter. The cooler is mounted upright on the left hand side next to the radiator. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Mike Mehl Gesendet: Sonntag, 1. November 2009 03:06 An: Triumph Friends of Betreff: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed I got a lot of good ideas from the radiator questions from the forum. I also need some thoughts on an oil cooler. I have a very old oil cooler on the car that looks like I should not use. I am looking for advice on what oil cooler to run along with the fitting/hose size. Also where should I mount. it? Thanks. Mike Mehl Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From william.tobin3 at verizon.net Mon Nov 2 06:50:11 2009 From: william.tobin3 at verizon.net (WILLIAM TOBIN) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:50:11 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed References: <990103.26601.qm@web46107.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <007301ca5bc3$6670cfa0$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> Hi Mike, a couple thoughts on the oil cooler. If you look at coolers, they will usually have either BSP or AN fittings. My humble opinion is to buy a cooler with AN fittings; you can make your own lines, fittings/hose ends are readily available in many configurations, and colors for that matter. Do NOT use barb/clamp setups; they sometimes blow off. If you do get a cooler with BSP fittings, Pegasus sells BSP/AN adapters; I like AN stuff. I keep a line made up in case of a rock through the cooler or cold weather; I can bypas the cooler in a very few minutes. And cap off the cooler fittings. I use -10 lines to the cooler; they give lots of flow. You can also buy a fitting to put a temp gauge in the line if need be. Mount it so that you have good air flow through it but don't steal air from the radiator. I mounted mine in isolator mounts to decrease vibration; anybody's thoughts on that? Good or not? My $0.02 worth. Bill ---- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Mehl" To: "Triumph Friends of" Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:05 PM Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed > I got a lot of good ideas from the radiator questions from the forum. I also > need some thoughts on an oil cooler. I have a very old oil cooler on the > car that looks like I should not use. I am looking for advice on what oil > cooler to run along with the fitting/hose size. Also where should I mount. > it? > > Thanks. > Mike Mehl > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From fpspitfire at comcast.net Mon Nov 2 08:33:12 2009 From: fpspitfire at comcast.net (fpspitfire at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:33:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed In-Reply-To: <007301ca5bc3$6670cfa0$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> Message-ID: <255266731.3328111257175992467.JavaMail.root@sz0072a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I use a 16 row on the spitfire.B -10 AN fittings. I prefer the Setrab coolers over the Mocal...4 Mocals...all broke within a few races.B The Setrab one has been good for 5 years now. I don't isolation mount, I firm mount from one side only so that the cooler is in compression.B aaron ----- Original Message ----- From: "WILLIAM TOBIN" To: "Mike Mehl" , "Triumph Friends of" Sent: Monday, November 2, 2009 7:50:11 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed B B Hi Mike, a couple thoughts on the oil cooler. B B If you look at coolers, they will usually have either BSP or AN fittings. My humble opinion is to buy a cooler with AN fittings; you can make your own lines, fittings/hose ends are readily available in many configurations, and colors for that matter. Do NOT use barb/clamp setups; they sometimes blow off. If you do get a cooler with BSP fittings, Pegasus sells BSP/AN adapters; I like AN stuff. I keep a line made up in case of a rock through the cooler or cold weather; I can bypas the cooler in a very few minutes. And cap off the cooler fittings. B B I use -10 lines to the cooler; they give lots of flow. You can also buy a fitting to put a temp gauge in the line if need be. B B Mount it so that you have good air flow through it but don't steal air from the radiator. I mounted mine in isolator mounts to decrease vibration; anybody's thoughts on that? Good or not? B B My $0.02 worth. B B Bill ---- Original Message ----- B B From: "Mike Mehl" B B To: "Triumph Friends of" B B Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:05 PM B B Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed B B > I got a lot of good ideas from the radiator questions from the forum. B I also B B > need some thoughts on an oil cooler. B I have a very old oil cooler on the B B > car that looks like I should not use. I am looking for advice on what oil B B > cooler to run along with the fitting/hose size. B Also where should I mount. B B > it? B B > B B > Thanks. B B > Mike Mehl B B > _______________________________________________ B B > B B > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html B B > B B > http://www.fot-racing.com B B > B B > B B > Fot at autox.team.net B B > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot B B > B B > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From goodparts at verizon.net Mon Nov 2 08:38:32 2009 From: goodparts at verizon.net (Richard Good) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:38:32 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed In-Reply-To: <007301ca5bc3$6670cfa0$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> References: <990103.26601.qm@web46107.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <007301ca5bc3$6670cfa0$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> Message-ID: <6B888CC998814C69A055D354E93E12AA@AdminPC> Isolator mounts are a good idea, especially if mounted on the "radiator protection shield" on a TR6. This piece also mounts the sway bar which can cause some twisting that will crack the cooler. Been there. Richard Good ----- Original Message ----- From: "WILLIAM TOBIN" To: "Mike Mehl" ; "Triumph Friends of" Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed > Hi Mike, a couple thoughts on the oil cooler. > If you look at coolers, they will usually have either BSP or AN fittings. > My humble opinion is to buy a cooler with AN fittings; you can make your > own > lines, fittings/hose ends are readily available in many configurations, > and > colors for that matter. Do NOT use barb/clamp setups; they sometimes blow > off. If you do get a cooler with BSP fittings, Pegasus sells BSP/AN > adapters; I like AN stuff. I keep a line made up in case of a rock through > the cooler or cold weather; I can bypas the cooler in a very few minutes. > And cap off the cooler fittings. > I use -10 lines to the cooler; they give lots of flow. You can also buy a > fitting to put a temp gauge in the line if need be. > Mount it so that you have good air flow through it but don't steal air > from the radiator. I mounted mine in isolator mounts to decrease > vibration; > anybody's thoughts on that? Good or not? > My $0.02 worth. > Bill ---- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Mehl" > To: "Triumph Friends of" > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:05 PM > Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed > > > > I got a lot of good ideas from the radiator questions from the forum. > I > also > > need some thoughts on an oil cooler. I have a very old oil cooler on > the > > car that looks like I should not use. I am looking for advice on what > oil > > cooler to run along with the fitting/hose size. Also where should I > mount. > > it? > > > > Thanks. > > Mike Mehl > > _______________________________________________ From norlinengineering at comcast.net Mon Nov 2 09:35:17 2009 From: norlinengineering at comcast.net (Norlin Engineering) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:35:17 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed In-Reply-To: <990103.26601.qm@web46107.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Mike Do not use the old cooler, get a new one. If you loose a bearing, toss the cooler and get another new one. I use Mocal and have had no problems. Jim -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Mehl Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:06 PM To: Triumph Friends of Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed I got a lot of good ideas from the radiator questions from the forum. I also need some thoughts on an oil cooler. I have a very old oil cooler on the car that looks like I should not use. I am looking for advice on what oil cooler to run along with the fitting/hose size. Also where should I mount. it? Thanks. Mike Mehl Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From bownes at seiri.com Mon Nov 2 10:22:35 2009 From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:22:35 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed In-Reply-To: References: <990103.26601.qm@web46107.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Amen to that. Been there, learned the lesson. Worst part was there was a new cooler sitting on the shelf. I use the mocals on pretty much everything and put BSP to AN adaptors on them. They are cheap and efficient. Emergency repair tip: In a serious emergency, like it's 100 degrees out, an hour before the flag and you just found out the cooler on the car is cracked, if nothing else at all is available, you can use an automatic trans cooler. Flare the (normally slip on) hose ends, put some 1/2" hose on, double hose clamp it, and go racing *after* the oil has warmed up. Replace upon arrival home while admiring the new checkered flag you just got to hang in the garage. On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Norlin Engineering < norlinengineering at comcast.net> wrote: > Mike > > Do not use the old cooler, get a new one. If you loose a bearing, toss the > cooler and get another new one. I use Mocal and have had no problems. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Mike Mehl > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:06 PM > To: Triumph Friends of > Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed > > > I got a lot of good ideas from the radiator questions from the forum. I > also need some thoughts on an oil cooler. I have a very old oil cooler on > the car that looks like I should not use. I am looking for advice on what > oil cooler to run along with the fitting/hose size. Also where should I > mount. > it? > > Thanks. > Mike Mehl > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From Gt6steve at aol.com Mon Nov 2 15:11:32 2009 From: Gt6steve at aol.com (Gt6steve at aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:11:32 EST Subject: [Fot] TR box leak points Message-ID: Amici, This year I started using the Redline Shockproof gear oil in the TR trans and I have had a huge mess on my hands from the top of the box. I believe this leak has always been there but the oil would run off and go unnoticed while this weird green stuff CLINGS! I believe it is coming from the front of the shift box, maybe the three press-in plugs? Any advice or experience on leakproofing these boxes? I have a 3.8" hose breather on the tailshaft extension. Should I put something else in? It really is a mess! From mpendy at dishmail.net Mon Nov 2 20:30:20 2009 From: mpendy at dishmail.net (Mark Pendergrass) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:30:20 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed References: <255266731.3328111257175992467.JavaMail.root@sz0072a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1F085693AEC04DD1809A011B022A4762@Pendys> I second that; i have three Mocals on the shelf, all have leaks,the last one went one race . Switched to Setrab at the second race of the season, no issues at this time. Mark Pendy ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "WILLIAM TOBIN" Cc: "Triumph Friends of" Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed >I use a 16 row on the spitfire.B -10 AN fittings. > > > > I prefer the Setrab coolers over the Mocal...4 Mocals...all broke within a > few > races.B The Setrab one has been good for 5 years now. > > > > I don't isolation mount, I firm mount from one side only so that the > cooler is > in compression.B > > > > aaron > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "WILLIAM TOBIN" > To: "Mike Mehl" , "Triumph Friends of" > > Sent: Monday, November 2, 2009 7:50:11 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed > > B B Hi Mike, a couple thoughts on the oil cooler. > B B If you look at coolers, they will usually have either BSP or AN > fittings. > My humble opinion is to buy a cooler with AN fittings; you can make your > own > lines, fittings/hose ends are readily available in many configurations, > and > colors for that matter. Do NOT use barb/clamp setups; they sometimes blow > off. If you do get a cooler with BSP fittings, Pegasus sells BSP/AN > adapters; I like AN stuff. I keep a line made up in case of a rock through > the cooler or cold weather; I can bypas the cooler in a very few minutes. > And cap off the cooler fittings. > B B I use -10 lines to the cooler; they give lots of flow. You can also > buy a > fitting to put a temp gauge in the line if need be. > B B Mount it so that you have good air flow through it but don't steal air > from the radiator. I mounted mine in isolator mounts to decrease > vibration; > anybody's thoughts on that? Good or not? > B B My $0.02 worth. > B B Bill ---- Original Message ----- > B B From: "Mike Mehl" > B B To: "Triumph Friends of" > B B Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:05 PM > B B Subject: [Fot] TR4 oil cooler advice needed > > > B B > I got a lot of good ideas from the radiator questions from the > forum. > B I > also > B B > need some thoughts on an oil cooler. B I have a very old oil cooler > on > the > B B > car that looks like I should not use. I am looking for advice on > what > oil > B B > cooler to run along with the fitting/hose size. B Also where should > I > mount. > B B > it? > B B > > B B > Thanks. > B B > Mike Mehl > B B > _______________________________________________ > B B > > B B > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > B B > > B B > http://www.fot-racing.com > B B > > B B > > B B > Fot at autox.team.net > B B > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > B B > > B B > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From gtlund at cyberspeedway.net Mon Nov 2 21:55:25 2009 From: gtlund at cyberspeedway.net (greg) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:55:25 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR box leak points In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AEFB7BD.2070904@cyberspeedway.net> Steve, The shift rail o rings probably need to be replaced. You will have to remove the gearbox top and remove the grub screws which retain the shift forks. Be careful as those screws are prone to breaking. I use a square head socket and extension to make sure I only put a turning moment on the screw. Since I started using this method about 15 years ago I haven't broken any screws. WHile your in there I would use a spring scale and set the detent adjustments per the factory. It really does make a nicer shifting box. Make sure to use only Viton orings. Buna N will not tolerate modern EP gear lube of any kind. This also goes for shaft seals. Most industrial bearing houses stock nitrile shaft seals and they will degrade quickly. If you use generic seals make sure to order Viton. This also accounts for some of the aftermarket seals leaking prematurely. Some old car parts suppliers know hobbyists expect leaks so they use whatever industrial seal is a close fit. Also, engine oil seals need to be Viton to tolerate the heat. Nitrile starts to harden (vulcanize further) at 180 degrees F. Greg Lund Gt6steve at aol.com wrote: > Amici, > > This year I started using the Redline Shockproof gear oil in the TR trans > and I have had a huge mess on my hands from the top of the box. I believe > this leak has always been there but the oil would run off and go unnoticed > while this weird green stuff CLINGS! > > I believe it is coming from the front of the shift box, maybe the three > press-in plugs? > > Any advice or experience on leakproofing these boxes? I have a 3.8" hose > breather on the tailshaft extension. Should I put something else in? > > It really is a mess! > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From jmwagner at greenheart.com Mon Nov 2 22:17:24 2009 From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:17:24 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Stainless Oil Catch Tank (Catch Can) with Breather Message-ID: <4AEFBCE4.5060904@greenheart.com> I just ran across this while surfing the net.... I'm just passing along the link because I think the oil catch can looks cool.... and the company seems to have some good products... (UK based) I've never done business with them. --Justin http://shop1.actinicexpress.co.uk/shops/Rat_Sport/index.php?cat=Oil_Catch_Tanks From jmwagner at greenheart.com Mon Nov 2 23:41:00 2009 From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:41:00 -0800 Subject: [Fot] triumph spitfire/parts & race car for sale Message-ID: <4AEFD07C.7060905@greenheart.com> Ran across this... --Justin http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/pts/1445415115.html From gkbyrne at optushome.com.au Tue Nov 3 03:40:35 2009 From: gkbyrne at optushome.com.au (Geoff Byrne) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:40:35 +1100 Subject: [Fot] TR box leak points In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0801545F738D41F099C3C8BD3446E70F@GEOFFPC> Amici i run redline and have had similar problems leaks at the top of the box come from either or both the shift rail seals and the reverse and OD switches . If you dont need the switches remove and plug up . If you need them replace the small o ring on the plunger by taking the switch apart or get a new one . Seal the switch body into the casing with Loctite thread sealant. The shift rail o rings are replace by dismantling the cover as described in the manual . put some heavy duty grease on them when you install . i have found the welsch plugs very seldom leak Having done these things no more leaks and great oil Geoff Byrne TR6 racer Down Under ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:11 AM Subject: [Fot] TR box leak points > Amici, > > This year I started using the Redline Shockproof gear oil in the TR trans > and I have had a huge mess on my hands from the top of the box. I believe > this leak has always been there but the oil would run off and go unnoticed > while this weird green stuff CLINGS! > > I believe it is coming from the front of the shift box, maybe the three > press-in plugs? > > Any advice or experience on leakproofing these boxes? I have a 3.8" hose > breather on the tailshaft extension. Should I put something else in? > > It really is a mess! > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From John.Reed at wilson.com Tue Nov 3 10:48:08 2009 From: John.Reed at wilson.com (John Reed) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:48:08 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Message-ID: FOT, I would like to nominate Jason Ostrowski to our fine group. Jason will be a second generation racer, his father and I raced together back when he was a little snot nosed kid. He's still snot nosed but bigger now. He will be racing a GT6 he just bought. Can I get a second? jason at multivintage.com Thanks, John Regards, John Reed Global Staff Photographer Creative Services Wilson Sporting Goods Co. 8750 W Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago, Illinois 60631, USA Tel. + 1.773.714.6895, fax +1.773.714.4585 John.Reed at wilson.com www.wilson.com www.amersports.com This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. From emanteno at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 11:43:13 2009 From: emanteno at gmail.com (Irv Korey) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:43:13 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <354a1780911031043p5bc303bdh1f1b127e865ec0aa@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:48 AM, John Reed wrote: > FOT, > > I would like to nominate Jason Ostrowski to our fine group. Jason will be a > second generation racer, his father and I raced together back when he was a > little snot nosed kid. He's still snot nosed but bigger now. He will be > racing a GT6 he just bought. > > Can I get a second? > Second. Welcome to Jason. From ehusmann53 at yahoo.com Tue Nov 3 11:50:44 2009 From: ehusmann53 at yahoo.com (Ernest Husmann) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:50:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <138343.17928.qm@web57608.mail.re1.yahoo.com> John: Anyone you hang with has got to have issues that would make them a good fit for our little group; second. Ernie --- On Tue, 11/3/09, John Reed wrote: From: John Reed Subject: [Fot] Nomination To: "'Friends of Triumph'" Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 11:48 AM FOT, I would like to nominate Jason Ostrowski to our fine group. Jason will be a second generation racer, his father and I raced together back when he was a little snot nosed kid. He's still snot nosed but bigger now. He will be racing a GT6 he just bought. Can I get a second? jason at multivintage.com Thanks, John Regards, John Reed Global Staff Photographer Creative Services Wilson Sporting Goods Co. 8750 W Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago, Illinois 60631, USA Tel. + 1.773.714.6895, fax +1.773.714.4585 John.Reed at wilson.com www.wilson.com www.amersports.com This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From jerrybarr at charter.net Tue Nov 3 11:55:13 2009 From: jerrybarr at charter.net (jerrybarr at charter.net) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:55:13 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Message-ID: <635642373-1257274508-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1999458743-@bda008.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Second!! ------Original Message------ From: John Reed Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net To: 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: [Fot] Nomination Sent: Nov 3, 2009 11:48 AM FOT, I would like to nominate Jason Ostrowski to our fine group. Jason will be a second generation racer, his father and I raced together back when he was a little snot nosed kid. He's still snot nosed but bigger now. He will be racing a GT6 he just bought. Can I get a second? jason at multivintage.com Thanks, John Regards, John Reed Global Staff Photographer Creative Services Wilson Sporting Goods Co. 8750 W Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago, Illinois 60631, USA Tel. + 1.773.714.6895, fax +1.773.714.4585 John.Reed at wilson.com www.wilson.com www.amersports.com This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Sent from my BlackBerry. wireless device from U.S. Cellular From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Tue Nov 3 12:03:57 2009 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:03:57 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C74BA4081@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com> Second! Will he be racing with Midwestern Council? Scott -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Reed Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 11:48 AM To: 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: [Fot] Nomination FOT, I would like to nominate Jason Ostrowski to our fine group. Jason will be a second generation racer, his father and I raced together back when he was a little snot nosed kid. He's still snot nosed but bigger now. He will be racing a GT6 he just bought. Can I get a second? jason at multivintage.com Thanks, John Regards, John Reed Global Staff Photographer Creative Services Wilson Sporting Goods Co. 8750 W Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago, Illinois 60631, USA Tel. + 1.773.714.6895, fax +1.773.714.4585 John.Reed at wilson.com www.wilson.com www.amersports.com This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From adams910 at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 17:46:31 2009 From: adams910 at gmail.com (Bob Adams) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:46:31 -0500 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com Message-ID: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> Here's a pretty interesting resource.. http://www.britishracecar.com/ It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar with and there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. Bob From dave at microworks.net Tue Nov 3 18:38:34 2009 From: dave at microworks.net (David W. Riddle) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:38:34 -0700 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.co m> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091104013927.E8493187671@autox.team.net> Are they MG bigots over there? Not a single TR?! At 05:46 PM 11/3/2009, Bob Adams wrote: >Here's a pretty interesting resource.. >http://www.britishracecar.com/ > >It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar with and >there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. > >Bob >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > >Fot at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From spitlist at cox.net Tue Nov 3 19:48:38 2009 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:48:38 -0700 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <20091104013927.E8493187671@autox.team.net> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> <20091104013927.E8493187671@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <653B0E2A122D435C967D713505CA25EE@joepentiumnew> Dave, I am sure that this site is just getting off the ground and they have gotten a number of entries from MG racers. It appears to be an offshoot of a long established site (British V8) which does have a number of Triumphs including Tiny Tim, My black Spit. So, the thing to do is start sending Triumph entries to them so we can overshadow all those lowly MG's Joe C. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David W. Riddle Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 6:39 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com Are they MG bigots over there? Not a single TR?! At 05:46 PM 11/3/2009, Bob Adams wrote: >Here's a pretty interesting resource.. >http://www.britishracecar.com/ > >It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar with and >there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. > >Bob >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > >Fot at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From s.janzen at comcast.net Wed Nov 4 08:33:02 2009 From: s.janzen at comcast.net (Scott Janzen) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:33:02 -0500 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing that they can compete in vintage anywhere. On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: Here's a pretty interesting resource.. http://www.britishracecar.com/ It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar with and there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. Bob Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From spitlist at cox.net Wed Nov 4 10:02:00 2009 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:02:00 -0700 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5471F5497DFE487BA1CCC843EC210A0E@joepentiumnew> If that is the case, maybe there Is hope for Tiny Tim in vintage racing! :) Joe C. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Scott Janzen Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:33 AM Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing that they can compete in vintage anywhere. On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: Here's a pretty interesting resource.. http://www.britishracecar.com/ It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar with and there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. Bob Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From billb at bnj.com Wed Nov 4 10:10:58 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:10:58 -0800 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> Message-ID: <9A2DC7A4-0F9F-4CF2-9398-8B509C81BF92@bnj.com> They're pretty fast, though Peyote can keep up with some of them if they're having a bad day and I'm having a good one. On Nov 4, 2009, at 7:33 AM, Scott Janzen wrote: > some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so > far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing > that they can compete in vintage anywhere. > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: > > Here's a pretty interesting resource.. > http://www.britishracecar.com/ > > It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar > with and > there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. > > Bob > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From andre at gt6.ca Wed Nov 4 10:40:13 2009 From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:40:13 -0500 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4362ae390911040940m4bac53b4rcea9f83b0afdbdc3@mail.gmail.com> Regardless. Very well prepared cars. I've been taking notes from a few of them as I work up my racer. A. 2009/11/4 Scott Janzen : > some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so > far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing > that they can compete in vintage anywhere. > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: > > Here's a pretty interesting resource.. > http://www.britishracecar.com/ > > It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar > with and > there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. > > Bob > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > -- Andre Rousseau - andre at gt6.ca '68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/ '77 FIAT 124 Vintage Racer #515 - http://www.124racer.com/ Ottawa, ON, Canada It is difficult to overcome one's passions, and impossible to satisfy them Marguerite de la Sabliere quote From tedtsimx at bright.net Wed Nov 4 12:07:14 2009 From: tedtsimx at bright.net (Ted Schumacher) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:07:14 -0500 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <5471F5497DFE487BA1CCC843EC210A0E@joepentiumnew> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> <5471F5497DFE487BA1CCC843EC210A0E@joepentiumnew> Message-ID: <4AF1D0E2.80008@bright.net> Joe, since the main references seem to be to SVRA, remember it's a for profit group Or, if you can write the check, we will have a class. Ted Joe Curry wrote: > If that is the case, maybe there Is hope for Tiny Tim in vintage racing! :) > > Joe C. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Scott Janzen > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:33 AM > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com > > some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so > far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing > that they can compete in vintage anywhere. > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: > > Here's a pretty interesting resource.. > http://www.britishracecar.com/ > > It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar > with and > there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. > > Bob > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: 270.14.49/2480 - Release Date: 11/04/09 07:37:00 > > -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx at bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 From spitlist at cox.net Wed Nov 4 13:12:44 2009 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:12:44 -0700 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <4AF1D0E2.80008@bright.net> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> <5471F5497DFE487BA1CCC843EC210A0E@joepentiumnew> <4AF1D0E2.80008@bright.net> Message-ID: I am afraid that at this time, it would be far too expensive for me to return the car to race trim and to go to any of those races. So I guess I will have to be satisfied having Tiny Tim as a street rod! :-) Joe _____ From: Ted Schumacher [mailto:tedtsimx at bright.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:07 PM To: Joe Curry Cc: 'Scott Janzen'; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com Joe, since the main references seem to be to SVRA, remember it's a for profit group Or, if you can write the check, we will have a class. Ted Joe Curry wrote: If that is the case, maybe there Is hope for Tiny Tim in vintage racing! :) Joe C. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Scott Janzen Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:33 AM Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing that they can compete in vintage anywhere. On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: Here's a pretty interesting resource.. http://www.britishracecar.com/ It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar with and there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. Bob Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: 270.14.49/2480 - Release Date: 11/04/09 07:37:00 -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx at bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 From trbilbo at aol.com Wed Nov 4 17:28:00 2009 From: trbilbo at aol.com (trbilbo at aol.com) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:28:00 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Deiter's TR4 at Nurburging flat out! Wild! In-Reply-To: <20091027131853.56AC918764B@autox.team.net> References: <20091027131853.56AC918764B@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <8CC2BC5F6EFD383-3670-6CFF@webmail-d044.sysops.aol.com> Godo stuff Tony! This is a link to one of my favs .... made me pucker more than a bit.... I have parts in Deiter's car so this was his 5 minute send off! GREAT in-car laps of a tasty-FAST TR4 at NurBurGring FLAT out. The squealing drifts are wonderful! (and note the leather helmet and goggles!) enjoy! (Paste it if it doesn't click) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kystdfr1V6k&NR=1 Billy B. E Ticket Triumphs -----Original Message----- From: Tony Drews To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 6:18 am Subject: [Fot] Edited Hallett Video on You Tube I edited the race footage down to the 10 minute You Tube limit and put it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5uJLTLrXOk&feature=youtube_gdata Used Windows Live Movie Maker to edit and post it, I think the quality came out very nice. Cheers, Tony Drews Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From colordog.1 at earthlink.net Wed Nov 4 18:46:31 2009 From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (steve) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:46:31 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [Fot] Deiter's TR4 at Nurburging flat out! Wild! Message-ID: <28914686.1257385591482.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> 3 minutes 18 seconds into the video, YIKES! ~Steve -----Original Message----- >From: trbilbo at aol.com >Sent: Nov 4, 2009 4:28 PM >To: tony at tonydrews.com, fot at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Fot] Deiter's TR4 at Nurburging flat out! Wild! > >Godo stuff Tony! > >This is a link to one of my favs .... made me pucker more than a bit.... > >I have parts in Deiter's car so this was his 5 minute send off! > >GREAT in-car laps of a tasty-FAST TR4 at NurBurGring FLAT out. > >The squealing drifts are wonderful! (and note the leather helmet and >goggles!) > >enjoy! (Paste it if it doesn't click) > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kystdfr1V6k&NR=1 > >Billy B. >E Ticket Triumphs > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Tony Drews >To: fot at autox.team.net >Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 6:18 am >Subject: [Fot] Edited Hallett Video on You Tube > > >I edited the race footage down to the 10 minute You Tube limit and put it >here: >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5uJLTLrXOk&feature=youtube_gdata > >Used Windows Live Movie Maker to edit and post it, I think the quality came >out very nice. > >Cheers, Tony Drews >Fot at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > >Fot at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From mpendy at dishmail.net Wed Nov 4 20:10:10 2009 From: mpendy at dishmail.net (Mark Pendergrass) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:10:10 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Deiter's TR4 at Nurburging flat out! Wild! References: <20091027131853.56AC918764B@autox.team.net> <8CC2BC5F6EFD383-3670-6CFF@webmail-d044.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <81C4EE9723DC4AB6B962A518B802E65E@Pendys> Think he's not pulling some serious "G" forces? look at the keys and key fob when he's in the curves. Mark Pendy ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Deiter's TR4 at Nurburging flat out! Wild! > Godo stuff Tony! > > This is a link to one of my favs .... made me pucker more than a bit.... > > I have parts in Deiter's car so this was his 5 minute send off! > > GREAT in-car laps of a tasty-FAST TR4 at NurBurGring FLAT out. > > The squealing drifts are wonderful! (and note the leather helmet and > goggles!) > > enjoy! (Paste it if it doesn't click) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kystdfr1V6k&NR=1 > > Billy B. > E Ticket Triumphs > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Drews > To: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 6:18 am > Subject: [Fot] Edited Hallett Video on You Tube > > > I edited the race footage down to the 10 minute You Tube limit and put it > here: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5uJLTLrXOk&feature=youtube_gdata > > Used Windows Live Movie Maker to edit and post it, I think the quality > came > out very nice. > > Cheers, Tony Drews > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From billb at bnj.com Wed Nov 4 20:48:56 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:48:56 -0800 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <5471F5497DFE487BA1CCC843EC210A0E@joepentiumnew> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> <5471F5497DFE487BA1CCC843EC210A0E@joepentiumnew> Message-ID: <2B4FC054-39B9-44E5-A237-B42DD0D2B8AD@bnj.com> SVRA You don't have to do anything to the car. Just pay the entry fee. On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Joe Curry wrote: > If that is the case, maybe there Is hope for Tiny Tim in vintage > racing! :) > > Joe C. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Scott Janzen > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:33 AM > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com > > some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so > far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing > that they can compete in vintage anywhere. > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: > > Here's a pretty interesting resource.. > http://www.britishracecar.com/ > > It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar > with and > there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. > > Bob > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From spitlist at cox.net Wed Nov 4 20:58:23 2009 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:58:23 -0700 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <2B4FC054-39B9-44E5-A237-B42DD0D2B8AD@bnj.com> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> <5471F5497DFE487BA1CCC843EC210A0E@joepentiumnew> <2B4FC054-39B9-44E5-A237-B42DD0D2B8AD@bnj.com> Message-ID: I am sure that there sre some mandatory safety things that are required, right? Since I retired the car from serious autocross action, it has been returned to street legal trim. The once SCCA legal rollbar has been cut down to fit under the hardtop and a Plastic 16 gallon fuel cell has been installed. I doubt that will pass muster. Joe C. -----Original Message----- From: Bill Babcock [mailto:billb at bnj.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:49 PM To: Joe Curry Cc: 'Scott Janzen'; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com SVRA You don't have to do anything to the car. Just pay the entry fee. On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Joe Curry wrote: > If that is the case, maybe there Is hope for Tiny Tim in vintage > racing! :) > > Joe C. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Scott Janzen > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:33 AM > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com > > some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so > far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing > that they can compete in vintage anywhere. > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: > > Here's a pretty interesting resource.. > http://www.britishracecar.com/ > > It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar > with and > there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. > > Bob > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From adams910 at gmail.com Wed Nov 4 22:00:55 2009 From: adams910 at gmail.com (Bob Adams) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:00:55 -0500 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <2B4FC054-39B9-44E5-A237-B42DD0D2B8AD@bnj.com> References: <673993c50911031646h52a28d5dg7d5ec688e5c277f5@mail.gmail.com> <8E78307D-AA18-40BC-9E2F-5CBAD59C63A3@comcast.net> <5471F5497DFE487BA1CCC843EC210A0E@joepentiumnew> <2B4FC054-39B9-44E5-A237-B42DD0D2B8AD@bnj.com> Message-ID: <673993c50911042100r36d5665aw2a08ac6c23d96b57@mail.gmail.com> Disagree Bill. They tech cars and have disqualified people for illegal modifications (happened this past Sept. to an MGB). SVRA weighs the top cars from time to time as well. Bob From fasttrs at mindspring.com Thu Nov 5 06:04:16 2009 From: fasttrs at mindspring.com (Mike Munson) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 07:04:16 -0600 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <2B4FC054-39B9-44E5-A237-B42DD0D2B8AD@bnj.com> Message-ID: Just don't pass any Porsche. They frown on that if you are in a lowly Triumph. Mike -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Babcock Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:49 PM To: Joe Curry Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com SVRA You don't have to do anything to the car. Just pay the entry fee. On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Joe Curry wrote: > If that is the case, maybe there Is hope for Tiny Tim in vintage > racing! :) > > Joe C. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Scott Janzen > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:33 AM > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com > > some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so > far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing > that they can compete in vintage anywhere. > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: > > Here's a pretty interesting resource.. > http://www.britishracecar.com/ > > It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar > with and > there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. > > Bob > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: 270.14.50/2481 - Release Date: 11/04/09 19:51:00 From John.Reed at wilson.com Thu Nov 5 06:52:42 2009 From: John.Reed at wilson.com (John Reed) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:52:42 -0600 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: <2B4FC054-39B9-44E5-A237-B42DD0D2B8AD@bnj.com> Message-ID: Bill, Maybe your thinking of HSR. SVRA not only weighs cars, they have weight penalties for things like no fan, generator.... John On 11/4/09 9:48 PM, "Bill Babcock" wrote: > SVRA > > You don't have to do anything to the car. Just pay the entry fee. > On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Joe Curry wrote: > >> If that is the case, maybe there Is hope for Tiny Tim in vintage >> racing! :) >> >> Joe C. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] >> On >> Behalf Of Scott Janzen >> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:33 AM >> Cc: fot at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com >> >> some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so >> far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing >> that they can compete in vintage anywhere. >> >> On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: >> >> Here's a pretty interesting resource.. >> http://www.britishracecar.com/ >> >> It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar >> with and >> there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. >> >> Bob >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Regards, John Reed Global Staff Photographer Creative Services Wilson Sporting Goods Co. 8750 W Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago, Illinois 60631, USA Tel. + 1.773.714.6895, fax +1.773.714.4585 John.Reed at wilson.com www.wilson.com www.amersports.com This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. From jsnook at wcnet.org Thu Nov 5 07:07:21 2009 From: jsnook at wcnet.org (Jeff Snook) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:07:21 -0500 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004b01ca5e21$4b268db0$e173a910$@org> Curtis, the guy who is putting this site together approached me at Watkins Glen this past September. I had not heard of it before then. He took a zillion photos of my Lotus and spent a lot of time asking questions. Plus we have had subsequent email Q/A sessions. He really does a lot of research on each car and spends a lot of time on all the little details. Pretty amazing he is doing this pretty much on his own dime!! My TR3 will be featured soon, so we will off-set some of the MG bias on his site!! Jeff Snook http://www.snooksdreamcars.com From billb at bnj.com Thu Nov 5 08:12:00 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 07:12:00 -0800 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You're right, I am. On Nov 5, 2009, at 5:52 AM, John Reed wrote: > Bill, > Maybe your thinking of HSR. > SVRA not only weighs cars, they have weight penalties for things > like no > fan, generator.... > > > John > > > On 11/4/09 9:48 PM, "Bill Babcock" wrote: > >> SVRA >> >> You don't have to do anything to the car. Just pay the entry fee. >> On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Joe Curry wrote: >> >>> If that is the case, maybe there Is hope for Tiny Tim in vintage >>> racing! :) >>> >>> Joe C. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Scott Janzen >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:33 AM >>> Cc: fot at autox.team.net >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com >>> >>> some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, >>> so >>> far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing >>> that they can compete in vintage anywhere. >>> >>> On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: >>> >>> Here's a pretty interesting resource.. >>> http://www.britishracecar.com/ >>> >>> It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar >>> with and >>> there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. >>> >>> Bob >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>> >>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>> >>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>> >>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > Regards, > John Reed > Global Staff Photographer > Creative Services > > Wilson Sporting Goods Co. > 8750 W Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago, Illinois 60631, USA > Tel. + 1.773.714.6895, fax +1.773.714.4585 > > John.Reed at wilson.com www.wilson.com www.amersports.com > > > > > This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. > If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail > in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e- > mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the > material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. From budscars at comcast.net Thu Nov 5 15:40:44 2009 From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:40:44 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR3 TRANNY COVER WANTED Message-ID: Hi Gang..TRANNY COVER NEEDED FOR 56 TR3...email John Slack in sonoma, ca at johneslack at att.com Racer Bud From tr4racing at googlemail.com Thu Nov 5 15:50:46 2009 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 23:50:46 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Deiter's TR4 at Nurburging flat out! Wild! In-Reply-To: <8CC2BC5F6EFD383-3670-6CFF@webmail-d044.sysops.aol.com> References: <20091027131853.56AC918764B@autox.team.net> <8CC2BC5F6EFD383-3670-6CFF@webmail-d044.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <001701ca5e6a$6cd0fba0$4672f2e0$@com> Funny that this old clip is still one of the most seen. Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von trbilbo at aol.com Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. November 2009 01:28 An: tony at tonydrews.com; fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Deiter's TR4 at Nurburging flat out! Wild! ........ GREAT in-car laps of a tasty-FAST TR4 at NurBurGring FLAT out. The squealing drifts are wonderful! (and note the leather helmet and goggles!) enjoy! (Paste it if it doesn't click) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kystdfr1V6k&NR=1 Billy B. E Ticket Triumphs -----Original Message----- From: Tony Drews To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 6:18 am Subject: [Fot] Edited Hallett Video on You Tube I edited the race footage down to the 10 minute You Tube limit and put it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5uJLTLrXOk&feature=youtube_gdata Used Windows Live Movie Maker to edit and post it, I think the quality came out very nice. Cheers, Tony Drews Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From norlinengineering at comcast.net Sun Nov 8 10:42:40 2009 From: norlinengineering at comcast.net (Norlin Engineering) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 09:42:40 -0800 Subject: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: What's really fun is passing Porsche's on the outside - Geez I sure love how the Spitfire handles! :) -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Munson Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 5:04 AM To: 'Bill Babcock'; 'Joe Curry' Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com Just don't pass any Porsche. They frown on that if you are in a lowly Triumph. Mike -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Babcock Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:49 PM To: Joe Curry Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com SVRA You don't have to do anything to the car. Just pay the entry fee. On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Joe Curry wrote: > If that is the case, maybe there Is hope for Tiny Tim in vintage > racing! :) > > Joe C. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Scott Janzen > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:33 AM > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] BritishRacecar.com > > some of those MGB GT V8s are virtually modern cars under the skin, so > far modified they bear little resemblance to the original. Amazing > that they can compete in vintage anywhere. > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob Adams wrote: > > Here's a pretty interesting resource.. http://www.britishracecar.com/ > > It features cars that many of the east coast FOT should be familiar > with and there's a great write up on Jeff Snook's Lotus 11. > > Bob > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: 270.14.50/2481 - Release Date: 11/04/09 19:51:00 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. From gaf3 at charter.net Tue Nov 10 05:17:46 2009 From: gaf3 at charter.net (Glenn Franco) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:17:46 -0500 Subject: [Fot] DOOR HARDWARE NEEDED FOR 74 TR6 Message-ID: <4AF959EA.80402@charter.net> Group Does anyone out there have a remote control release rod for the left door of a TR6 1973 or later? This is the rod and mechanism the runs from the door latch to the inside door release handle. It has an upward bend to clear the door pull in the center of the door. I need to buy one of these to wrap up my restoration on my 74 autocrosser or fast road car. The big three in the US and Rimmer have no stock. Thanks in advance Glenn Franco 71 and 74 TR6 and spit racer From gaf3 at charter.net Tue Nov 10 07:54:30 2009 From: gaf3 at charter.net (Glenn Franco) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:54:30 -0500 Subject: [Fot] DOOR HARDWARE NEEDED FOR 74 TR6 In-Reply-To: <4AF959EA.80402@charter.net> References: <4AF959EA.80402@charter.net> Message-ID: <4AF97EA6.8070007@charter.net> Sorry to bomb the list but, Scott Harper, Team Triumph, had one and it's on its way. Thanks that was fast. Glenn Glenn Franco wrote: > Group > Does anyone out there have a remote control release rod for the left > door of a TR6 1973 or later? > This is the rod and mechanism the runs from the door latch to the > inside door release handle. > It has an upward bend to clear the door pull in the center of the door. > > I need to buy one of these to wrap up my restoration on my 74 > autocrosser or fast road car. > The big three in the US and Rimmer have no stock. > > Thanks in advance > Glenn Franco > 71 and 74 TR6 and spit racer > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gaf3 at charter.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as gaf3 at charter.net From horizonracing at msn.com Tue Nov 10 15:16:45 2009 From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:16:45 -0800 Subject: [Fot] wiper arm ID Message-ID: FOT'ers, I trying to ID a wiper arm of a Ferrari 275 GTB. YES, believe it! they used Lucas parts on these things. Must be pay back ! :) O/All length is at 13 1/4 width @ pivot pin is 3/4 The outside Diameter of the piece that goes over the "wheel" is also approx. 3/4 These arms might be off a TR 6 ? or 250 Thank you to all Tony Garmey From vintage.racer at comcast.net Tue Nov 10 18:43:34 2009 From: vintage.racer at comcast.net (Gary Horstkorta) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:43:34 -0800 Subject: [Fot] New Vintage Race Organization Message-ID: <001a01ca6270$63eebd10$2bcc3730$@racer@comcast.net> I heard rumors of a new group with Bobby Rahal involved at this year's Monterey Historics. The rumors were accurate, check out http://www.hmpseries.com/aboutUs.cfm. Gary From adams910 at gmail.com Tue Nov 10 20:53:03 2009 From: adams910 at gmail.com (Bob Adams) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:53:03 -0500 Subject: [Fot] New Vintage Race Organization In-Reply-To: <5087355178326783589@unknownmsgid> References: <5087355178326783589@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <673993c50911101953q616a1863vb0da3dcbfd53bd80@mail.gmail.com> They also took the HSR date for Watkins Glen in June. Bob Adams On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Gary Horstkorta wrote: > I heard rumors of a new group with Bobby Rahal involved at this year's > Monterey Historics. The rumors were accurate, check out > http://www.hmpseries.com/aboutUs.cfm. > > > > Gary > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as adams910 at gmail.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as adams910 at gmail.com From ablake2 at austin.rr.com Tue Nov 10 23:15:52 2009 From: ablake2 at austin.rr.com (Greg & Alison Blake) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:15:52 -0600 Subject: [Fot] TWS this weekend Message-ID: <000701ca6296$6bd6dbe0$6401a8c0@blake1> Just checking to see who will be at TWS this weekend. Greg From tarch at bellsouth.net Wed Nov 11 08:12:27 2009 From: tarch at bellsouth.net (Richard Taylor) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:12:27 -0500 Subject: [Fot] For the Military In-Reply-To: <20091031041851.AB1CA187647@autox.team.net> References: <20091031041851.AB1CA187647@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <65576D8A5E0344F5BFEC7ABFEFBC6E22@richardiipc> David, An old soldier's lament..... I was discharged a half a century ago as a Korean War vet. Most of my 3 year duty, however, was Cold War stuff in Germany; practicing killing, not actually doing it. As a teenager I took Basic with the 101st Airborne and jump school with the 82nd. I too was Infantry. In those days this is where the Army put you if you couldn't pass any of their qualifying tests for high skilled schools. You know, schools like clerk-typist or cook or vehicle maintenance. The mid-fifties was the era of the old "brown gowns" (Ike Jackets) and M-1 Garands. Yes, I still have one each left in my closet. Highest rank held (briefly), Sgt; discharged Cpl.; evidence of a disquieting trend. The paratrooper songs in those days were "Beautiful streamer, open for me..." "There was blood upon the risers, there was brains upon his chute...." and "Gorey, gorey, what a helluva way to die..." These were sung more as ballads as opposed to the martial cadence of your attached version. However the Military Utube rendition still rings true to the soldier's need for invincibility. I salute that from the bottom of my heart. Now let me share a really random thought with the list. Years ago, when we hooked up to the static line in a thunderously loud C-119, Flying Boxcar, at 1200 msl slow flight, there was always the feeling of uncertainty, anxiety and apprehension. That in-your-gut feeling is the same one we feel on the starting grid at the track; very little difference. So maybe FOT needs a blood and guts race song. Back to the Utube video, I was disappointed that, presumably for political correctness, the George C. Scott clip of Patton's speech was censored for cultural epithets. Wussies!! And thank your brother from all of us for serving his Country. Richard Taylor Subject: [Fot] For the Military My Brother will be graduating from Army Basic this week and then he is off to Advanced Infantry School. For those on the list(s) that have a Military background I saw this song referenced on the Blackfive milblog today. iTunes proceeds go to a Military charity. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTs6a0ORdQU _______________________________________________ From dave at microworks.net Wed Nov 11 08:41:25 2009 From: dave at microworks.net (David W. Riddle) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:41:25 -0700 Subject: [Fot] For the Military In-Reply-To: <65576D8A5E0344F5BFEC7ABFEFBC6E22@richardiipc> References: <20091031041851.AB1CA187647@autox.team.net> <65576D8A5E0344F5BFEC7ABFEFBC6E22@richardiipc> Message-ID: <20091111154219.6653F187645@autox.team.net> Mike is home this week on leave before heading to Texas (Ft. Bliss) after getting his orders changed. He was slated to head to Korea but that would have put off deployment to Iraq/Afghanistan by at least a year. Mike wants to get in the action. His goal is SF. My Dad is a retired (1981) Army aviator. He flew Birddogs in Nam. My Step Brother Will is a firefighter in the Air Guard, My Cousin Scott is Army Intelligence (he had been an Army Integrator in Iraq and was wounded by an IED. Uncle Larry (Scott's Dad) is retired Air Force, Uncle Phil is retired Navy. I worked covert for the CIA in Korea back in the 80's and had been an Air Force Cadet and went on exchange with the Israeli Air Force back in 1981. Long Family history of Military Service. Grandpa was on Palmrya Island the morning of 12/7 while my Grandma was back at Pearl eight months pregnant with my Dad. Uncle Phil was 3 years old and got shot in the leg that morning as he stood in his crib when a bullet came through the roof of their House and passed over Grandma's shoulder as she was getting him dressed. Her sister's Husband, Uncle Mike, for whom my Brother Mike is named) was in the Oklahoma down on Battleship Row when she capsized. HE and Grandpa both survived WWII. The letter that Grandma wrote to my Great-grandma back in San Pedro, California the week after the attack is a beauty of understatement. http://www.riddlefamily.org/ghr1.htm At 08:12 AM 11/11/2009, Richard Taylor wrote: >David, > >An old soldier's lament..... > >I was discharged a half a century ago as a Korean War vet. Most of my 3 year >duty, however, was Cold War stuff in Germany; practicing killing, not >actually doing it. As a teenager I took Basic with the 101st Airborne and >jump school with the 82nd. I too was Infantry. In those days this is where >the Army put you if you couldn't pass any of their qualifying tests for high >skilled schools. You know, schools like clerk-typist or cook or vehicle >maintenance. > >The mid-fifties was the era of the old "brown gowns" (Ike Jackets) and M-1 >Garands. Yes, I still have one each left in my closet. Highest rank held >(briefly), Sgt; discharged Cpl.; evidence of a disquieting trend. > >The paratrooper songs in those days were "Beautiful streamer, open for >me..." "There was blood upon the risers, there was brains upon his >chute...." and "Gorey, gorey, what a helluva way to die..." These were sung >more as ballads as opposed to the martial cadence of your attached version. > >However the Military Utube rendition still rings true to the soldier's need >for invincibility. I salute that from the bottom of my heart. > >Now let me share a really random thought with the list. Years ago, when we >hooked up to the static line in a thunderously loud C-119, Flying Boxcar, at >1200 msl slow flight, there was always the feeling of uncertainty, anxiety >and apprehension. That in-your-gut feeling is the same one we feel on the >starting grid at the track; very little difference. So maybe FOT needs a >blood and guts race song. > >Back to the Utube video, I was disappointed that, presumably for political >correctness, the George C. Scott clip of Patton's speech was censored for >cultural epithets. Wussies!! > >And thank your brother from all of us for serving his Country. > >Richard Taylor > > >Subject: [Fot] For the Military > >My Brother will be graduating from Army Basic this week and then he >is off to Advanced Infantry School. For those on the list(s) that >have a Military background I saw this song referenced on the >Blackfive milblog today. iTunes proceeds go to a Military charity. > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTs6a0ORdQU >_______________________________________________ From charly at mitchelplumbing.com Wed Nov 11 15:25:52 2009 From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:25:52 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Car Hauling from texas Message-ID: <84A370F136A042A4BED46367431E5051@Charly> Amici, I've got a client looking at a TR4 located in Texas that we're trying to arrange hauling to Seattle Washington area. Is anybody traveling this direction with an empty trailer? There will be a bunch of spare parts going along with it as well. Thanks, Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 From charly at mitchelplumbing.com Wed Nov 11 15:48:01 2009 From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:48:01 -0800 Subject: [Fot] wiper arm ID References: Message-ID: <99B54A8F78654368A012D95F45724D76@Charly> Hey Tony, TR250 & TR4A are the same and TR6 uses about 3 different kind. Some are black on later cars and some are LHD or RHD. The TR6 is a little shorter than the 13.25 inches at about 12 inches. One side of the TR6 is also bent to be parallel to the lower windshield frame about 45 0. The other side is slightly bent but only a couple of degrees. I have a bunch of arms laying around and I can look through them. Is this arm straight or is it crooked as if in a LHD or RHD mount? Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony and Annie Garmey" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:16 PM Subject: [Fot] wiper arm ID > FOT'ers, > > I trying to ID a wiper arm of a Ferrari 275 GTB. YES, believe it! they > used > Lucas parts on these things. Must be pay back ! :) > > > > O/All length is at 13 1/4 > > width @ pivot pin is 3/4 > > The outside Diameter of the piece that goes over the "wheel" is also > approx. > 3/4 > > > > These arms might be off a TR 6 ? or 250 > > > > Thank you to all > > > > Tony Garmey > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as charly at mitchelplumbing.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as charly at mitchelplumbing.com From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net Wed Nov 11 20:01:36 2009 From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:01:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] TWS this weekend In-Reply-To: <000701ca6296$6bd6dbe0$6401a8c0@blake1> Message-ID: <160113.21733.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Joshua and I will be there taking in the vintage Indy car racing, though I'm not bringing the '39 champ car. I don't feel like hauling it 3 hours down and back just to show it off. -Ed- --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Greg & Alison Blake wrote: From: Greg & Alison Blake Subject: [Fot] TWS this weekend To: fot at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 12:15 AM Just checking to see who will be at TWS this weekend. Greg You are subscribed as edwardbarnard at prodigy.net http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as edwardbarnard at prodigy.net From markvaden at gmail.com Fri Nov 13 17:03:39 2009 From: markvaden at gmail.com (Mark Vaden) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:03:39 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Videos and pictures Message-ID: <285b8a860911131603r79b405d1m7453cd9e364d677f@mail.gmail.com> Hi Everyone, I finally updated our racing web page, and added some more videos, as well as photos. Check it out: http://www.britishheritagemotorsports.com/TriHard_Racing.html. There are links across the top of the page for photos and videos. -Mark From markvaden at gmail.com Sat Nov 14 10:13:12 2009 From: markvaden at gmail.com (Mark Vaden) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:13:12 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: [TR] Videos and pictures In-Reply-To: <1959608342.236425.1258160238648.JavaMail.root@vms244.mailsrvcs.net> References: <1959608342.236425.1258160238648.JavaMail.root@vms244.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <285b8a860911140913g1d910570q27ad42200f594108@mail.gmail.com> Oops added a period to the end of the line. Here is the link without the period: http://www.britishheritagemotorsports.com/TriHard_Racing.html ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Date: Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [TR] Videos and pictures To: markvaden at gmail.com Might want to take the period off the end, it returns a 404 error with it on. On Nov 13, 2009, Mark Vaden wrote: Hi Everyone, I finally updated our racing web page, and added some more videos, as well as photos. Check it out: http://www.britishheritagemotorsports.com/TriHard_Racing.html. There are links across the top of the page for photos and videos. -Mark This list supported in part by the Vintage Triumph Register http://www.vtr.org Triumphs at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive From bownes at seiri.com Sat Nov 14 18:52:48 2009 From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:52:48 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Not quite TR related Message-ID: Well, maybe distantly... The garage where I built my first Spitfire race car is going to go under the wrecking ball/foreclosure after the owner recently passed on. It has a large inventory of NOS VW parts in the back. His family has asked myself and a few of the other 'old guard' to see what we can salvage from the facility to help them out. What I really need is the VW equivalent of Ted Shumacher. Anyone know someone who might be interested in picking up a garage load of NOS spares and other parts? Most of the spares are engine bits, but we stumbled on 5 boxes of very early Bus/Beetle glass headlight covers still in the original wrapping paper and a few boxes of bearings old enough to be labeled 'Auto-Union'. Alas, my TR250 engine is buried behind the rearmost Transporter and is gonna have to be just about the last thing out of the building. So it goes. Thanks, Bob From rikrock at aol.com Sun Nov 15 05:12:22 2009 From: rikrock at aol.com (rikrock at aol.com) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:12:22 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 3.45 : 1 Ring and Pinion For Sale Message-ID: <8CC34040572364D-7038-22D1@webmail-d027.sysops.aol.com> Fits the big TR (TR3-6). In good used condition, from one of my TVR's. $150 or trade for 4.1 gears? Rich Rock Pottstown, Pa From malaboge at aol.com Sun Nov 15 15:36:09 2009 From: malaboge at aol.com (malaboge at aol.com) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:36:09 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Brake Adapters Message-ID: <8CC345B293D06F0-5090-9A60@webmail-d085.sysops.aol.com> Fellow shop rats- Ok you caught me...i'm workin on a non-TR...but at least it has a bunch-o-TR stuff on it. When it wouldn't move anymore cause the brakes were rusted tight, a helpful soul removed the calipers so that it could roll. He dutifully threw the calipers in the trunk, but evidently in his zeal, he removed the brake caliper adapters as well. No prob except they didn't end up in the trunk, and now as I attempt a reconstruction of this little beauty, I do not have the adapters. I fished several out of the pile-o-parts in the shop, but none are right. It would appear that they are GT6 style adapters...they are "round" where they bolt to the upright (the GT6 size upright) and take the larger 16P caliper (like a tr4). Anyone have a set they would care to sell to the cause? And yes, those are the breaks.... Nick in Nor Cal From horizonracing at msn.com Sun Nov 15 18:03:19 2009 From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:03:19 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Brake Adapters In-Reply-To: <8CC345B293D06F0-5090-9A60@webmail-d085.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC345B293D06F0-5090-9A60@webmail-d085.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Nick, What car do you Have?? but to help you with Brake caliper mounts, What uprights do you have? I just had a few Alloy Caliper mounts cast for the TR4 and Dave Bean Eng. has alloy mounts for the spitfire to Girling AR or TR 4 calipers. Good Luck Tony > To: fot at autox.team.net; vintage-race at autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:36:09 -0500 > From: malaboge at aol.com > Subject: [Fot] Brake Adapters > > Fellow shop rats- > > > Ok you caught me...i'm workin on a non-TR...but at least it has a bunch-o-TR > stuff on it. When it wouldn't move anymore cause the brakes were rusted > tight, a helpful soul removed the calipers so that it could roll. He > dutifully threw the calipers in the trunk, but evidently in his zeal, he > removed the brake caliper adapters as well. No prob except they didn't end up > in the trunk, and now as I attempt a reconstruction of this little beauty, I > do not have the adapters. I fished several out of the pile-o-parts in the > shop, but none are right. It would appear that they are GT6 style > adapters...they are "round" where they bolt to the upright (the GT6 size > upright) and take the larger 16P caliper (like a tr4). > > > Anyone have a set they would care to sell to the cause? > > > And yes, those are the breaks.... > Nick in Nor Cal > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as horizonracing at msn.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as horizonracing at msn.com From tr4racing at googlemail.com Mon Nov 16 00:35:03 2009 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:35:03 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife In-Reply-To: <160113.21733.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <000701ca6296$6bd6dbe0$6401a8c0@blake1> <160113.21733.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001901ca668f$524e2550$f6ea6ff0$@com> This is what I try to achieve but probably never can reach. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBsBHEKOQKc Cheers Chris From tony at tonydrews.com Mon Nov 16 08:00:07 2009 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:00:07 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife In-Reply-To: <001901ca668f$524e2550$f6ea6ff0$@com> References: <000701ca6296$6bd6dbe0$6401a8c0@blake1> <160113.21733.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001901ca668f$524e2550$f6ea6ff0$@com> Message-ID: <20091116150034.3210C187643@autox.team.net> Wow! That was thrilling! What a way to get the blood pumping in the morning! I love Hans' commentary - he sounds so excited. "Oversteer! Oversteer!" Thanks for sharing. - Tony Drews At 01:35 AM 11/16/2009, MadMarx wrote: >This is what I try to achieve but probably never can reach. > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBsBHEKOQKc > > >Cheers >Chris From billb at bnj.com Mon Nov 16 09:04:24 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:04:24 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife In-Reply-To: <20091116150034.3210C187643@autox.team.net> References: <000701ca6296$6bd6dbe0$6401a8c0@blake1> <160113.21733.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001901ca668f$524e2550$f6ea6ff0$@com> <20091116150034.3210C187643@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <9CB0F7BA-FF48-4E16-AFC1-6875A4AD43BE@bnj.com> Really fun, watched it three times on my big screen. On Nov 16, 2009, at 7:00 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > Wow! That was thrilling! What a way to get the blood pumping in > the morning! I love Hans' commentary - he sounds so excited. > "Oversteer! Oversteer!" Thanks for sharing. > > - Tony Drews > > At 01:35 AM 11/16/2009, MadMarx wrote: >> This is what I try to achieve but probably never can reach. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBsBHEKOQKc >> >> >> Cheers >> Chris > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com From cartravel at pobox.com Mon Nov 16 13:50:20 2009 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:50:20 -0600 Subject: [Fot] TR3/4 Performance Camshafts - commercial message Message-ID: <4B01BB0C.4030509@pobox.com> I am getting together an order of camshafts for the TR3/4. I now have 4 different grinds, including a high performance street cam and three different racing cams. Complete specs along with those of other TR3/4 cams are listed at my website (link below). If you think you might need one of these within the next few months, you should get in on this group order. I have purchased a small batch of new chilled cast iron blanks, so I can grind the cam on a new blank or regrind a stock cam. The advantage of using a new blank is that the diameter of front half will be about 1/8 inch larger, i.e. stiffer and stronger. I believe I have finally found a grinder that does a good job at a reasonable price. He has some of the best CNC equipment available. CNC is nice because I can do a new grind without the up front cost to make a master. I've also got my Cam Doctor up and running and have now profiled a number of TR3/4 racing cams. I would like to profile some of the Kastner cams, because 0.050 numbers are not available for them. I also plan to start profiling cams for the 6 cylinder motors, e.g. TR5 cam. If you would like to loan me some interesting cams for profiling, please let me know. I will gladly share any information I get. Larry Young www.TildenTechnologies.com From GRMTim at aol.com Mon Nov 16 18:18:42 2009 From: GRMTim at aol.com (GRMTim at aol.com) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:18:42 EST Subject: [Fot] Your next project awaits... Message-ID: When the car count around here hit 20 and I told my wife we needed an Edsel wagon to tow the Group 44 GT6 around, she gently suggested (okay, perhaps it was less than gentle) that if I wanted to buy anything else, I need to clean up around here. To that end, I have thrown a Spitfire race car project on eBay, along with the beginnings of a Spit Six project. Next to go on eBay, if none of you want it... I also have our original Grassroots Motorsports 1500 Spitfire project car (Cover July 92 issue). It is a little worse for wear, but a Chimney Rock Hill climb, VTR national convention Solo I and SCCA Solo II Nats veteran. $1200 buys it with another 1500 parts car with everything needed. Includes JK Jackson built DSP legal engine, twin Weber DCOE 40s, Steve Eckerich limited slip dif, GT6 brakes and spindles, comp springs, roll bar, rebuilt trans, etc. etc. Also have a good 1.6 liter Miata engine if anyone wants to attempt a crazy swap. Engine has 60,000 miles on it and can be had for $500 obo. Also, we plan on bringing the Group 44 GT6+ to Sebring HSR event to lead the British car crowd around the track at lunch on Saturday. Tim Suddard Publisher; Classic Motorsports and Grassroots Motorsports magazines www.classicmotorsports.net www.grassrootsmotorsports.com Phone: (386) 673-4148 Fax: (386) 673-6040 From 19to1tr6 at comcast.net Thu Nov 19 19:48:50 2009 From: 19to1tr6 at comcast.net (Rob) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:48:50 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife In-Reply-To: <001901ca668f$524e2550$f6ea6ff0$@com> References: <000701ca6296$6bd6dbe0$6401a8c0@blake1><160113.21733.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001901ca668f$524e2550$f6ea6ff0$@com> Message-ID: Great Isn't he the man that said "put your eyes were you want to go and your hands will take you there" ----- Original Message ----- From: "MadMarx" To: Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:35 AM Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife > This is what I try to achieve but probably never can reach. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBsBHEKOQKc > > > Cheers > Chris > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net From triosan at gmail.com Mon Nov 16 21:28:26 2009 From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:28:26 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife In-Reply-To: References: <000701ca6296$6bd6dbe0$6401a8c0@blake1> <160113.21733.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001901ca668f$524e2550$f6ea6ff0$@com> Message-ID: <8cbd782d0911162028o67c560e7x441ca4a02e1f74a2@mail.gmail.com> Wow--watched it a couple of times--the second one just watching hands and shifting. So smoooooth --looks like he is barely turning the wheel --even on big fast corners. Quite a driver! quite a car [but then so were some of those Porsches he passed like they were almost still]. On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Rob <19to1tr6 at comcast.net> wrote: > Great Isn't he the man that said "put your eyes were you want to go and > your hands will take you there" > ----- Original Message ----- From: "MadMarx" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:35 AM > Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife > > >> This is what I try to achieve but probably never can reach. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBsBHEKOQKc >> >> >> Cheers >> Chris >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> >> >> You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com > -- Chuck Arnold From tr4racing at googlemail.com Tue Nov 17 03:44:13 2009 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:44:13 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife In-Reply-To: <8cbd782d0911162028o67c560e7x441ca4a02e1f74a2@mail.gmail.com> References: <000701ca6296$6bd6dbe0$6401a8c0@blake1> <160113.21733.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001901ca668f$524e2550$f6ea6ff0$@com> <8cbd782d0911162028o67c560e7x441ca4a02e1f74a2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001801ca6772$e83fabe0$b8bf03a0$@com> That year of the Video he won the 24 H race on the Nordschleife and was 57 years old. -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Chuck Arnold [mailto:triosan at gmail.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. November 2009 05:28 An: Rob Cc: MadMarx; fot at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife Wow--watched it a couple of times--the second one just watching hands and shifting. So smoooooth --looks like he is barely turning the wheel --even on big fast corners. Quite a driver! quite a car [but then so were some of those Porsches he passed like they were almost still]. On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Rob <19to1tr6 at comcast.net> wrote: > Great Isn't he the man that said "put your eyes were you want to go and > your hands will take you there" > ----- Original Message ----- From: "MadMarx" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:35 AM > Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife > > >> This is what I try to achieve but probably never can reach. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBsBHEKOQKc >> >> >> Cheers >> Chris >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> >> >> You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com > -- Chuck Arnold From 58tr3a at videotron.ca Tue Nov 17 07:40:02 2009 From: 58tr3a at videotron.ca (Don Elliott) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:40:02 -0500 Subject: [Fot] New Book due out May 2010 Message-ID: <5FA8A5CC6D7E486FA32F4623DFA70B8F@elliott7455dae> Northeast American Sports Car Races 1950-1959 http://www.veloce.co.uk/shop/products/productDetail.php?prod_id=V4254&prod_group=Motorsport&PHPSESSID=dc6f356faaa24492f2a3fb22ef2e704b From adams910 at gmail.com Tue Nov 17 08:09:55 2009 From: adams910 at gmail.com (Bob Adams) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:09:55 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Hans Stuck on the Nordschleife In-Reply-To: <001801ca6772$e83fabe0$b8bf03a0$@com> References: <000701ca6296$6bd6dbe0$6401a8c0@blake1> <160113.21733.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001901ca668f$524e2550$f6ea6ff0$@com> <8cbd782d0911162028o67c560e7x441ca4a02e1f74a2@mail.gmail.com> <001801ca6772$e83fabe0$b8bf03a0$@com> Message-ID: <673993c50911170709j4565c470jf596d5f14829041b@mail.gmail.com> Here is another good one from the 'Ring, in a much slower car (a pre-production S2000) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmEmHDimeH8 The driver, Motoharu "Gan San" Kurosawa is an old Nissan factory driver from the 1960's and '70's. I think he was 59 or so when that was filmed. Bob Adams From malaboge at aol.com Tue Nov 17 16:26:54 2009 From: malaboge at aol.com (malaboge at aol.com) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:26:54 -0500 Subject: [Fot] [Vintage-race] Brake Adapters In-Reply-To: <4785996B12C6453E99212D930C26468C@MATE1> References: <8CC345B293D06F0-5090-9A60@webmail-d085.sysops.aol.com> <4785996B12C6453E99212D930C26468C@MATE1> Message-ID: <8CC35F495151F70-9810-9D5@webmail-m003.sysops.aol.com> Kerry...and all you other inquisitive types... Well yeah I'm buildin up a non TR...it has many TR pieces on it (like most of the front end is GT6...including the normally bolted on GT suspension towers, which are welded to this chassis). It also has more than a few components from "that other" bastion of British busted knuckles...you know the one with the nifty motto...Safety Fast. I've got years of British iron piled around the scatter here and try as I might, none of the piles I delved into contained the adapters I need. I actually had to dismantle one of the TVR's here in the shop to make sure I wasn't goin crazy (no comments needed here) and that these adapters existed. Yes, they are the same as a pre-M TVR setup...like there's a lot-o-them around! I actually found several which looked right, but were for the smaller Girling calipers...the ole "close but no cigar" that usually accompanies most of my quests. Ted S sez he has some, so I can hopefully obtain a couple from him and get on with the long suffering resurrection of this Elva Courier MK IV irs car...yeah its gonna be a racer too! Too many projects an runnin out of tyme... Nick in Nor Cal -----Original Message----- From: KBS To: malaboge at aol.com Sent: Mon, Nov 16, 2009 4:25 am Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] Brake Adapters Now you have us guessing! TVR? Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 5:36 PM Subject: [Vintage-race] Brake Adapters > Fellow shop rats- > > > Ok you caught me...i'm workin on a non-TR...but at least it has a > bunch-o-TR > stuff on it. When it wouldn't move anymore cause the brakes were rusted > tight, a helpful soul removed the calipers so that it could roll. He > dutifully threw the calipers in the trunk, but evidently in his zeal, he > removed the brake caliper adapters as well. No prob except they didn't > end up > in the trunk, and now as I attempt a reconstruction of this little beauty, > I > do not have the adapters. I fished several out of the pile-o-parts in the > shop, but none are right. It would appear that they are GT6 style > adapters...they are "round" where they bolt to the upright (the GT6 size > upright) and take the larger 16P caliper (like a tr4). > > > Anyone have a set they would care to sell to the cause? > > > And yes, those are the breaks.... > Nick in Nor Cal > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as racecar at baltimoreknife.com > > Vintage-race at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-race From spitfiresuz at 141.com Tue Nov 17 18:12:27 2009 From: spitfiresuz at 141.com (Susan Kahler) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:12:27 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Non-LBC: Veyron vs. Lake. Who Wins? Message-ID: <4B0349FB.9020907@141.com> Hi all, I saw this today and just had to share it. Sad!!! But it's awesome it was caught on video! http://www.automoblog.net/2009/11/16/bugatti-veyron-crashes-into-lake/ But, while looking into it, I also found this link, which was pretty cool and more than made up for the above idiocy: http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3300.asp?id=14253 Keep Triumphing! Susan :) -- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationary. From mark at bradakis.com Tue Nov 17 18:47:56 2009 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:47:56 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Non-LBC: Veyron vs. Lake. Who Wins? In-Reply-To: <4B0349FB.9020907@141.com> References: <4B0349FB.9020907@141.com> Message-ID: <4B03524C.5040907@bradakis.com> Awww, poor fellow dropped his cell phone and wrecked his car. Sheesh. Speaking of idiots, I've had to deal with a couple the last few days. I'm trying to sell my clapped out piece of crap 1985 Nissan pickup for $275. It is running and driveable. I'm amazed, though, at the number of folks who see an ad that says stuff like "rusty, rough, needs work" and think it must be a clean one owner in showroom condition. Do these bozons really have no idea what a $275 vehicle might look like? I'm going to rerun the cragslist ad tomorrow after I get some more photos. I have an idea... Actually I did get a nice surprise, a nice check from someone on the TR list to support Team.Net. That helped make it a more pleasant day. mjb. From j.wags63 at yahoo.com Tue Nov 17 20:56:12 2009 From: j.wags63 at yahoo.com (John Wagner) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:56:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] TR 2-3-4 block info Message-ID: <870215.35620.qm@web59504.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Can someone tell me the stock block height of our favorite little tractor engine? Just the wrench John Wagner From lfritz82 at hotmail.com Tue Nov 17 21:42:44 2009 From: lfritz82 at hotmail.com (Lorne Fritz) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:42:44 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR6 distributor Message-ID: Has anyone on the list had problems with TR6 distributors. About once a year I get a TR6 in the shop that doesn't run smooth. By this I mean at crusing speed it has a slight miss or pulsation. Under load it seems ok. I have changed distributors and it will get better of worse but I can't seem to eliminate it. Also does anyone _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ From spitlist at cox.net Tue Nov 17 23:54:39 2009 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:54:39 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Non-LBC: Veyron vs. Lake. Who Wins? In-Reply-To: <4B0349FB.9020907@141.com> References: <4B0349FB.9020907@141.com> Message-ID: That's FUNNY! Anyone who pays One and a quarter Million Dollars for a car can drive it anywhere he wants! Joe. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Susan Kahler Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 6:12 PM To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Non-LBC: Veyron vs. Lake. Who Wins? Hi all, I saw this today and just had to share it. Sad!!! But it's awesome it was caught on video! http://www.automoblog.net/2009/11/16/bugatti-veyron-crashes-into-lake/ But, while looking into it, I also found this link, which was pretty cool and more than made up for the above idiocy: http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3300.asp?id=14253 Keep Triumphing! Susan :) -- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationary. You are subscribed as spitlist at cox.net http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as spitlist at cox.net From mdporter at dfn.com Wed Nov 18 00:16:23 2009 From: mdporter at dfn.com (Michael Porter) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:16:23 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Non-LBC: Veyron vs. Lake. Who Wins? In-Reply-To: References: <4B0349FB.9020907@141.com> Message-ID: <4B039F47.50805@dfn.com> Joe Curry wrote: > That's FUNNY! Anyone who pays One and a quarter Million Dollars for a car > can drive it anywhere he wants! > > > Hmm. I guess I'm too late to the fair. The YouTube notice says that the item has been removed due to a copyright claim by a Joe M. Garza. But, hey, a fool and his money are soon parted, and whatever. :) Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... From spitfiresuz at 141.com Wed Nov 18 03:50:15 2009 From: spitfiresuz at 141.com (Susan Kahler) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:50:15 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Non-LBC: Veyron vs. Lake. Who Wins? In-Reply-To: <4B039F47.50805@dfn.com> References: <4B0349FB.9020907@141.com> <4B039F47.50805@dfn.com> Message-ID: <4B03D167.900@141.com> From spitfiresuz at 141.com Wed Nov 18 03:56:01 2009 From: spitfiresuz at 141.com (Susan Kahler) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:56:01 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Non-LBC: Veyron vs. Lake. Who Wins? In-Reply-To: <4B039F47.50805@dfn.com> References: <4B0349FB.9020907@141.com> <4B039F47.50805@dfn.com> Message-ID: <4B03D2C1.4080700@141.com> Here's a working video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NJmB1F2mdE Susan :) Michael Porter wrote: > Hmm. I guess I'm too late to the fair. The YouTube notice says that > the item has been removed due to a copyright claim by a Joe M. Garza. > > > But, hey, a fool and his money are soon parted, and whatever. :) > > > Cheers. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.148 / Virus Database: 270.14.71/2510 - Release Date: 11/17/2009 7:26 PM > -- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationary. From jaboruch at netzero.net Wed Nov 18 16:17:34 2009 From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:17:34 GMT Subject: [Fot] Non-LBC: Veyron vs. Lake. Who Wins? Message-ID: <20091118.181734.9003.2@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Speaking of fools and their expensive cars, I was working in Greenville, SC this week and it was on the local news about a businessman that only got 3 years probation for motor vehicle homicide. Apparently he was driving his Maserati at speeds over 100 mph when it left the road, crossed a field, hit an embankment and was launched it into a house. The poor home owner was asleep in front of his TV in the family room at the back of his house when the car came crashing thru, killing the guy. I guess watching TV really is bad for us. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Susan Kahler To: Michael Porter Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Non-LBC: Veyron vs. Lake. Who Wins? Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:56:01 -0500 Here's a working video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NJmB1F2mdE Susan :) ____________________________________________________________ Culinary Arts Schools Earn your Culinary Degree at a college near you. Get info and apply! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/c?cp=ytbFGko2BgjyQOb2sx4J7wAAJz6U 0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAJqZmT4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABNlkgAAAAA= From tony at tonydrews.com Wed Nov 18 21:40:38 2009 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:40:38 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Vintage cars webpage Message-ID: <20091119044056.BA17118765A@autox.team.net> /YWeRuK: Permission denied From lfritz82 at hotmail.com Wed Nov 18 21:53:50 2009 From: lfritz82 at hotmail.com (Lorne Fritz) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:53:50 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR6 dist Message-ID: I'm going to install a Pertronix and if that doesn't work I going to send it to Advanced. Thanks for the feedback, Lorne _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMT AGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 From j.wags63 at yahoo.com Thu Nov 19 07:10:48 2009 From: j.wags63 at yahoo.com (John Wagner) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:10:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] TR 2-3-4 block Message-ID: <423173.57995.qm@web59501.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> I am still looking for the factory block or deck height. The distance between the center of the main journal and the top of the block. John Wagner j.wags63 at yahoo.com From 58tr3a at videotron.ca Thu Nov 19 08:15:06 2009 From: 58tr3a at videotron.ca (Don Elliott) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:15:06 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR 2-3-4 block info References: <870215.35620.qm@web59504.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <50DABE82473E47538461229DBC4E1430@elliott7455dae> I went and measured a spare engine block that I have - with my vernier. It measures 13.38" from the flat bottom face of the block where the oil pan is secured to the top of the block with the head removed. Don Elliott, Original Owner, 1958 TR3A, Montreal ----------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wagner" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:56 PM Subject: [Fot] TR 2-3-4 block info > Can someone tell me the stock block height of our favorite little tractor > engine? > > Just the wrench > John Wagner > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as 58tr3a at videotron.ca > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as 58tr3a at videotron.ca From bkahler1 at gmail.com Thu Nov 19 15:37:29 2009 From: bkahler1 at gmail.com (Brad Kahler) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:37:29 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Door transportation needed Message-ID: <2B51F4D6-E99D-440D-B024-931DC0A1BFD0@gmail.com> Ok, this probably an odd request even for me:) I recently purchased two cushman truckster doors and they are currently located near Fredericksburg Va. Somehow I need to find a way to get them transported from Fredericksburg to somewhere near Richmond Ky. Any and all options will be appreciated! Thanks! Brad (Susan's chief mechanic) Sent from my iPhone From ofbracing at nefcom.net Thu Nov 19 15:52:26 2009 From: ofbracing at nefcom.net (ofbracing) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:52:26 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Door transportation needed In-Reply-To: <2B51F4D6-E99D-440D-B024-931DC0A1BFD0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <059B6C45762C48A8B22B64A3530341A3@Dell5100Laptop> That's an easy one. As I recall, Leo Oddi lives in or near Fredericksburg and I'm sure he will be happy to bring the doors with him to Roebling Road in a couple weeks. You can pick them up there while you race with us at the VDCA season finale and pig pickin. The Triumph Ghetto will be in full swing with free food and drink for all TR drivers and crews. Don -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Kahler Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:37 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Door transportation needed Ok, this probably an odd request even for me:) I recently purchased two cushman truckster doors and they are currently located near Fredericksburg Va. Somehow I need to find a way to get them transported from Fredericksburg to somewhere near Richmond Ky. Any and all options will be appreciated! Thanks! Brad (Susan's chief mechanic) Sent from my iPhone You are subscribed as ofbracing at nefcom.net http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as ofbracing at nefcom.net From walt at hot-tr6.com Thu Nov 19 22:38:52 2009 From: walt at hot-tr6.com (Walter Hollowell) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:38:52 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Car guy Christmas lights Message-ID: <20091120053907.6618A187656@autox.team.net> I finished a fun little project for my two car guy gransdons ages 3 and 5. I made up a string of Hot Wheels Christmas lights. These came out so nice I thought I would share this idea with my FOT friends. I used some LED mini Christmas lights because they don't get hot. I bought a 60 light string and inserted a Hot Wheel every third light. I bought a bunch of Hot Wheels and placed each one on my drill press and drilled a hole straight down through the center of the car and out the bottom. I use some clear silicone to secure the lights. When you plug the lights in the cars light up through the cockpit and look really cool . My grandkids got a big kick out of this and yours might also. Walt Hollowell Albuquerque, New Mexico _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter . We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 91397 of my spam emails to date. The Professional version does not have this message. From gt6steve at aol.com Fri Nov 20 10:46:30 2009 From: gt6steve at aol.com (gt6steve at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:46:30 -0500 Subject: [Fot] six cylinder timing chains Message-ID: <8CC382086C809AD-302C-1B94A@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com> Amici, Who's got the best timing chains for the TR6's? Do any of our usual suspects sell Renolds chains? Steve = From s.janzen at comcast.net Fri Nov 20 11:41:59 2009 From: s.janzen at comcast.net (Scott Janzen) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:41:59 -0500 Subject: [Fot] six cylinder timing chains In-Reply-To: <8CC382086C809AD-302C-1B94A@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC382086C809AD-302C-1B94A@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <9DA46DCD-9353-4AA7-B06A-D8712E0A1F07@comcast.net> Have you had trouble with breakage or are just trying to minimize stretch? I put an adjustable timing gear on a recent engine build, and it definitely came with a heavier chain than stock, though it fits on the stock crank gear. It was not "branded" that I recall. Pretty sure I got it at Aptfast. On Nov 20, 2009, at 12:46 PM, gt6steve at aol.com wrote: Amici, Who's got the best timing chains for the TR6's? Do any of our usual suspects sell Renolds chains? Steve = Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as s.janzen at comcast.net From gt6steve at aol.com Fri Nov 20 13:55:59 2009 From: gt6steve at aol.com (gt6steve at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:55:59 -0500 Subject: [Fot] six cylinder timing chains In-Reply-To: <9DA46DCD-9353-4AA7-B06A-D8712E0A1F07@comcast.net> References: <8CC382086C809AD-302C-1B94A@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com> <9DA46DCD-9353-4AA7-B06A-D8712E0A1F07@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8CC383AFF8BCCA3-2AF4-E779@webmail-d061.sysops.aol.com> Haven't had a problem, just trying to ensure I don't. Thanx for the links. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Scott Janzen To: gt6steve at aol.com Cc: FOT at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, Nov 20, 2009 10:41 am Subject: Re: [Fot] six cylinder timing chains Have you had trouble with breakage or are just trying to minimize tretch? I put an adjustable timing gear on a recent engine build, nd it definitely came with a heavier chain than stock, though it fits n the stock crank gear. It was not "branded" that I recall. Pretty ure I got it at Aptfast. On Nov 20, 2009, at 12:46 PM, gt6steve at aol.com wrote: Amici, Who's got the best timing chains for the TR6's? Do any of our usual uspects ell Renolds chains? Steve ot at autox.team.net ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. ou are subscribed as s.janzen at comcast.net You are subscribed as gt6steve at aol.com http://www.fot-racing.com ot at autox.team.net ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. ou are subscribed as gt6steve at aol.com From lang at isis.mit.edu Fri Nov 20 14:40:07 2009 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:40:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR Message-ID: Hi, I'm running a TR6 with pretty much a stock rear suspension that it "upgraded" with TTune sprint springs and re-valved armstrong shocks. IT works pretty good, but it looks like I could benefit from a bit more bump resistance. Seeing that I autocross almost exclusively, the car transitions a LOT and for my setup that means the car squats big time when I jump on the throttle. At any rate, I'm considering waivering from the close to "as shipped" condition of my car (more like "as Harry Webster designed) and switching to tube shocks in the rear. I know about most of the bracket setups for TR6, as I purchased a set of tubulars way-way back in the day (1978 or 1979) that came with Monroe-matics! So, my question is this: for the bolt-in shock brackets that are out there in use ON RACE CARS - what are folks using for shocks? I know about AVO, SPAX, and Koni. What I'd be looking for is something that gives me some adjustment for bump... the Koni and Spax only allow rebound adjustment, so we're probably talking about a two-way adjustable. If you use this setup or know someone that does, I'd like some insight on the matter. Worst case, I have a pretty stout cage, so adding a couple of small bars and some ears would be "way easy". I'm just looking to avoid the situation I started about 5 years ago where we started going down the "$1200 per shock" road. I'm looking for something a little closer to off-the-shelf than "the-best-shock-ever-made". TIA, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent 2009 NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bownes at seiri.com Fri Nov 20 15:02:46 2009 From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:02:46 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well, other than going down the 'Call Joe Stimola, your friendly local Penske guy and drop $1k per' route, there are some good double adjustable shocks out there in the circle track world. Grab one of their catalogues. you should be able to get something that fits well. That being said, if you call Joe, you will never need to buy another shock for your car. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Robert M. Lang wrote: > Hi, > > I'm running a TR6 with pretty much a stock rear suspension that it > "upgraded" with TTune sprint springs and re-valved armstrong shocks. IT > works pretty good, but it looks like I could benefit from a bit more bump > resistance. Seeing that I autocross almost exclusively, the car transitions > a LOT and for my setup that means the car squats big time when I jump on the > throttle. > > At any rate, I'm considering waivering from the close to "as shipped" > condition of my car (more like "as Harry Webster designed) and switching to > tube shocks in the rear. > > I know about most of the bracket setups for TR6, as I purchased a set of > tubulars way-way back in the day (1978 or 1979) that came with > Monroe-matics! > > So, my question is this: for the bolt-in shock brackets that are out there > in use ON RACE CARS - what are folks using for shocks? I know about AVO, > SPAX, and Koni. What I'd be looking for is something that gives me some > adjustment for bump... the Koni and Spax only allow rebound adjustment, so > we're probably talking about a two-way adjustable. > > If you use this setup or know someone that does, I'd like some insight on > the matter. > > Worst case, I have a pretty stout cage, so adding a couple of small bars > and some ears would be "way easy". I'm just looking to avoid the situation I > started about 5 years ago where we started going down the "$1200 per shock" > road. I'm looking for something a little closer to off-the-shelf than > "the-best-shock-ever-made". > > TIA, > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > 2009 NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bownes at web9.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as bownes at web9.com From wgrosenbach at juno.com Fri Nov 20 16:19:00 2009 From: wgrosenbach at juno.com (William G Rosenbach) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:19:00 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR Message-ID: <20091120.161900.3904.4.wgrosenbach@juno.com> Bob, If squat is your problem, but you are otherwise happy with the set up, wouldn't a "Z" Bar, do what you need? Bill On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:40:07 -0500 (EST) "Robert M. Lang" writes: > Hi, > > I'm running a TR6 with pretty much a stock rear suspension that it > "upgraded" with TTune sprint springs and re-valved armstrong shocks. > IT > works pretty good, but it looks like I could benefit from a bit more > bump > resistance. Seeing that I autocross almost exclusively, the car > transitions a LOT and for my setup that means the car squats big > time when > I jump on the throttle. > > At any rate, I'm considering waivering from the close to "as > shipped" > condition of my car (more like "as Harry Webster designed) and > switching > to tube shocks in the rear. > > I know about most of the bracket setups for TR6, as I purchased a > set of > tubulars way-way back in the day (1978 or 1979) that came with > Monroe-matics! > > So, my question is this: for the bolt-in shock brackets that are out > there > in use ON RACE CARS - what are folks using for shocks? I know about > AVO, > SPAX, and Koni. What I'd be looking for is something that gives me > some > adjustment for bump... the Koni and Spax only allow rebound > adjustment, so > we're probably talking about a two-way adjustable. > > If you use this setup or know someone that does, I'd like some > insight on > the matter. > > Worst case, I have a pretty stout cage, so adding a couple of small > bars > and some ears would be "way easy". I'm just looking to avoid the > situation > I started about 5 years ago where we started going down the "$1200 > per > shock" road. I'm looking for something a little closer to > off-the-shelf > than "the-best-shock-ever-made". > > TIA, > rml > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for > rent > 2009 NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: > 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wgrosenbach at juno.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as wgrosenbach at juno.com > > ____________________________________________________________ Top Faith-Based Degrees Browse top Christian degrees from accredited online universities. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=5rN6mGfC8WsIVyjIyCzDJAAAJ1CU0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAOOlGz4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARFCQAAAAA= From goodparts at verizon.net Fri Nov 20 20:37:01 2009 From: goodparts at verizon.net (Richard Good) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:37:01 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR References: Message-ID: <019401ca6a5b$f0207e70$6402a8c0@richardyap2xwy> I always thought that the shock could not do much to control squat due to the length of time the downward pull is sustained during acceleration. I figured any setting that was stiff enough to control the squat would be rock solid on a quick bump. I can see a stiff compression setting making it take a wee bit longer to pull the back end down but I can't quite imagine it lessening the amount of squat. I would love to be proven wrong because my car has the same problem. Richard Good ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR > Hi, > > I'm running a TR6 with pretty much a stock rear suspension that it > "upgraded" with TTune sprint springs and re-valved armstrong shocks. IT > works pretty good, but it looks like I could benefit from a bit more bump > resistance. Seeing that I autocross almost exclusively, the car > transitions a LOT and for my setup that means the car squats big time when > I jump on the throttle. > > At any rate, I'm considering waivering from the close to "as shipped" > condition of my car (more like "as Harry Webster designed) and switching > to tube shocks in the rear. > > I know about most of the bracket setups for TR6, as I purchased a set of > tubulars way-way back in the day (1978 or 1979) that came with > Monroe-matics! > > So, my question is this: for the bolt-in shock brackets that are out there > in use ON RACE CARS - what are folks using for shocks? I know about AVO, > SPAX, and Koni. What I'd be looking for is something that gives me some > adjustment for bump... the Koni and Spax only allow rebound adjustment, so > we're probably talking about a two-way adjustable. > > If you use this setup or know someone that does, I'd like some insight on > the matter. > > Worst case, I have a pretty stout cage, so adding a couple of small bars > and some ears would be "way easy". I'm just looking to avoid the situation > I started about 5 years ago where we started going down the "$1200 per > shock" road. I'm looking for something a little closer to off-the-shelf > than "the-best-shock-ever-made". > > TIA, > rml > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > 2009 NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > _______________________________________________ From rjl at gt-classics.com Fri Nov 20 21:06:51 2009 From: rjl at gt-classics.com (R. John Lye) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:06:51 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Like Mr. Bownes, I have also had great results calling Joe and saying "here's what I've got, what do I need?" He'll get you what you need - but it won't be cheap. John At 05:02 PM 11/20/2009, robert bownes wrote: >Well, other than going down the 'Call Joe Stimola, your friendly local >Penske guy and drop $1k per' route, there are some good double adjustable >shocks out there in the circle track world. Grab one of their catalogues. >you should be able to get something that fits well. > >That being said, if you call Joe, you will never need to buy another shock >for your car. > >On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Robert M. Lang wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm running a TR6 with pretty much a stock rear suspension that it > > "upgraded" with TTune sprint springs and re-valved armstrong shocks. IT > > works pretty good, but it looks like I could benefit from a bit more bump > > resistance. Seeing that I autocross almost exclusively, the car transitions > > a LOT and for my setup that means the car squats big time when I > jump on the > > throttle. > > > > At any rate, I'm considering waivering from the close to "as shipped" > > condition of my car (more like "as Harry Webster designed) and switching to > > tube shocks in the rear. > > > > I know about most of the bracket setups for TR6, as I purchased a set of > > tubulars way-way back in the day (1978 or 1979) that came with > > Monroe-matics! > > > > So, my question is this: for the bolt-in shock brackets that are out there > > in use ON RACE CARS - what are folks using for shocks? I know about AVO, > > SPAX, and Koni. What I'd be looking for is something that gives me some > > adjustment for bump... the Koni and Spax only allow rebound adjustment, so > > we're probably talking about a two-way adjustable. > > > > If you use this setup or know someone that does, I'd like some insight on > > the matter. > > > > Worst case, I have a pretty stout cage, so adding a couple of small bars > > and some ears would be "way easy". I'm just looking to avoid the > situation I > > started about 5 years ago where we started going down the "$1200 per shock" > > road. I'm looking for something a little closer to off-the-shelf than > > "the-best-shock-ever-made". > > > > TIA, > > rml > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > > 2009 NER Solo Chair | > > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as bownes at web9.com > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > > > Fot at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > > > > You are subscribed as bownes at web9.com >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as rjl at gt-classics.com > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > >Fot at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > >You are subscribed as rjl at gt-classics.com Thanks, R. John Lye rjl6n at cstone.net From lfritz82 at hotmail.com Fri Nov 20 21:30:52 2009 From: lfritz82 at hotmail.com (Lorne Fritz) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:30:52 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR6 dist update Message-ID: I just installed a Pertronix unit, bumped the timing ahead and eliminated the vacuum retard and the car runs great. Thanks all for the help. Lorne _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ From robertten1 at aol.com Fri Nov 20 22:56:40 2009 From: robertten1 at aol.com (robertten1 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:56:40 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR In-Reply-To: <019401ca6a5b$f0207e70$6402a8c0@richardyap2xwy> References: <019401ca6a5b$f0207e70$6402a8c0@richardyap2xwy> Message-ID: <8CC3886879DA7D9-2E84-43A6@webmail-d042.sysops.aol.com> STIFFER SPRING(S) ?? Bob T -----Original Message----- From: Richard Good To: Robert M. Lang Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, Nov 20, 2009 10:37 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR I always thought that the shock could not do much to control squat due to the length of time the downward pull is sustained during acceleration. I figured any setting that was stiff enough to control the squat would be rock solid on a quick bump. I can see a stiff compression setting making it take a wee bit longer to pull the back end down but I can't quite imagine it lessening the amount of squat. I would love to be proven wrong because my car has the same problem. Richard Good ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR > Hi, > > I'm running a TR6 with pretty much a stock rear suspension that it > "upgraded" with TTune sprint springs and re-valved armstrong shocks. IT > works pretty good, but it looks like I could benefit from a bit more bump > resistance. Seeing that I autocross almost exclusively, the car > transitions a LOT and for my setup that means the car squats big time when > I jump on the throttle. > > At any rate, I'm considering waivering from the close to "as shipped" > condition of my car (more like "as Harry Webster designed) and switching > to tube shocks in the rear. > > I know about most of the bracket setups for TR6, as I purchased a set of > tubulars way-way back in the day (1978 or 1979) that came with > Monroe-matics! > > So, my question is this: for the bolt-in shock brackets that are out there > in use ON RACE CARS - what are folks using for shocks? I know about AVO, > SPAX, and Koni. What I'd be looking for is something that gives me some > adjustment for bump... the Koni and Spax only allow rebound adjustment, so > we're probably talking about a two-way adjustable. > > If you use this setup or know someone that does, I'd like some insight on > the matter. > > Worst case, I have a pretty stout cage, so adding a couple of small bars > and some ears would be "way easy". I'm just looking to avoid the situation > I started about 5 years ago where we started going down the "$1200 per > shock" road. I'm looking for something a little closer to off-the-shelf > than "the-best-shock-ever-made". > > TIA, > rml > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > 2009 NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > _______________________________________________ You are subscribed as robertten1 at aol.com http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as robertten1 at aol.com From cofrog at q.com Sat Nov 21 10:11:07 2009 From: cofrog at q.com (Dan Forgey) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:11:07 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR and a new question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Robert, I have Spax tube shocks on my TR4A racer with Richard Good's springs and sway bar and have no squat. It should be noted that Triumph Tune has several rear springs sets available and you may need to consider a set with a higher spring rate and/or a conversion to tube shocks. Their softest spring rate is 420 lbs/inch and those springs are blue with a color code of green, yellow, yellow with a fitted length of 8.85 inches. Now a question to listers. I have Goodparts front and rear springs that were installed by the previous owner. They cause the car to be noticably higher in the rear (the rear camber adjustment is not causing the rear being high). The spring rates for the Goodparts springs are 390 for the front and 470 for the rear. I see in Goodparts web site that rears may available with a 550 spring rate from him however they are not listed to be ordered so I assume I have the 470s. (Richard, is there a way to visually tell your 470s from the 550s?) I have sourced a set of Triumph Tune rears that have a spring rate of 550 which when installed have the car sitting level. The question I have is; with rears of 550 lbs/inch would I have a dangerous oversteer if I keep the 390s in the front? Thanks, Dan > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:40:07 -0500 > From: lang at isis.mit.edu > To: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Koni ShoX for IRS TR > > Hi, > > I'm running a TR6 with pretty much a stock rear suspension that it > "upgraded" with TTune sprint springs and re-valved armstrong shocks. IT > works pretty good, but it looks like I could benefit from a bit more bump > resistance. Seeing that I autocross almost exclusively, the car > transitions a LOT and for my setup that means the car squats big time when > I jump on the throttle. > > At any rate, I'm considering waivering from the close to "as shipped" > condition of my car (more like "as Harry Webster designed) and switching > to tube shocks in the rear. > > I know about most of the bracket setups for TR6, as I purchased a set of > tubulars way-way back in the day (1978 or 1979) that came with > Monroe-matics! > > So, my question is this: for the bolt-in shock brackets that are out there > in use ON RACE CARS - what are folks using for shocks? I know about AVO, > SPAX, and Koni. What I'd be looking for is something that gives me some > adjustment for bump... the Koni and Spax only allow rebound adjustment, so > we're probably talking about a two-way adjustable. > > If you use this setup or know someone that does, I'd like some insight on > the matter. > > Worst case, I have a pretty stout cage, so adding a couple of small bars > and some ears would be "way easy". I'm just looking to avoid the situation > I started about 5 years ago where we started going down the "$1200 per > shock" road. I'm looking for something a little closer to off-the-shelf > than "the-best-shock-ever-made". > > TIA, > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > 2009 NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > > ) 2009 Microsoft Privacy Terms of use Account Feedback From tr4racing at googlemail.com Sat Nov 21 16:42:20 2009 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:42:20 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Video racing in USA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001201ca6b04$46020860$d2061920$@com> I don't know if this has been posted before but there are some TR3 visible. Cheers CHris From mike.mehl at yahoo.com Sat Nov 21 17:55:48 2009 From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:55:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] spark plug help Message-ID: <351778.18692.qm@web46110.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> The TR4 is coming along. The engine is back in the car. The roll cage is done. The fuel cell is plumbed in. The distributor is back from Jeff at Advanced Distributor. The compression is 11.27 to 1. What plugs should I use? What gap with those plugs? Thanks!!!! Mike Mehl From wgrosenbach at juno.com Sat Nov 21 21:19:27 2009 From: wgrosenbach at juno.com (William G Rosenbach) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:19:27 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife Message-ID: <20091121.211928.1204.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> Greetings all, Autotech.com in California stocks Quaife gear sets and has the TR-6, and it's on SALE!. I cut and pasted, so I hope it posts correctly, Bill 4 SPEED DOG ENGAGEMENT GEARKIT Straight cut, close ratios gears Needle roller bearings support free running gears Includes new Quaife mainshaft Choice of 1st gear ratios GEAR RATIOS 1st2nd3rd4th 2.013 2.223 1.5131.2051.000 Triumph TR6 4 speed dog engagementcall Prices and specifications subject to change without notice. Here is your chance to get Quaife differentials and gearkits at never-to-be-seen-again prices. Prices are good only while supplies last. Once they're gone, they're gone.TRIUMPH 95.309.160Triumph TR6 - TR5902.44 ____________________________________________________________ Doctorate Degrees Online Boost your career with an online doctoral degree. Enroll today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=m2dAQP1rcp7K9q0uBZq7cQAAJ1CU0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAFAntD4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAyOQAAAAA= [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of triumph-title.gif] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of news2.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of H_I_sale.gif] From billb at bnj.com Sat Nov 21 22:25:02 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:25:02 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife In-Reply-To: <20091121.211928.1204.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> References: <20091121.211928.1204.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> Message-ID: Couldn't find it on their website. I'm interested. On Nov 21, 2009, at 8:19 PM, William G Rosenbach wrote: > Greetings all, > Autotech.com in California stocks Quaife gear sets and has the TR-6, and > it's on SALE!. > I cut and pasted, so I hope it posts correctly, > Bill > > > > > 4 SPEED DOG ENGAGEMENT GEARKIT > > Straight cut, close ratios gears > Needle roller bearings support free running gears > Includes new Quaife mainshaft > Choice of 1st gear ratios > GEAR RATIOS > 1st2nd3rd4th > 2.013 > 2.223 1.5131.2051.000 > > Triumph TR6 4 speed dog engagementcall > > > Prices and specifications subject to change without notice. > > > Here is your chance to get Quaife differentials and gearkits at > never-to-be-seen-again prices. Prices are good only while supplies last. > Once they're gone, they're gone.TRIUMPH > 95.309.160Triumph TR6 - TR5902.44 > ____________________________________________________________ > Doctorate Degrees Online > Boost your career with an online doctoral degree. Enroll today! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=m2dAQP1rcp7K9q0uBZq7cQAAJ1CU0Hc Z7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAFAntD4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAyOQAAAAA= > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of triumph-title.gif] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of news2.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of H_I_sale.gif] > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com From tr3a58 at verizon.net Sun Nov 22 07:42:49 2009 From: tr3a58 at verizon.net (Dean Tetterton) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:42:49 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife Message-ID: <116337857.351575.1258900969403.JavaMail.root@vms232.mailsrvcs.net> From billb at bnj.com Sun Nov 22 08:28:03 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:28:03 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife In-Reply-To: <20091121.211928.1204.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> References: <20091121.211928.1204.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> Message-ID: <616398D3-A559-4533-8704-D712546826BC@bnj.com> Well, that didn't work so well, teamnet stripped off the mime bits. Could you send it to me directly On Nov 21, 2009, at 8:19 PM, William G Rosenbach wrote: > Greetings all, > Autotech.com in California stocks Quaife gear sets and has the TR-6, and > it's on SALE!. > I cut and pasted, so I hope it posts correctly, > Bill > > > > > 4 SPEED DOG ENGAGEMENT GEARKIT > > Straight cut, close ratios gears > Needle roller bearings support free running gears > Includes new Quaife mainshaft > Choice of 1st gear ratios > GEAR RATIOS > 1st2nd3rd4th > 2.013 > 2.223 1.5131.2051.000 > > Triumph TR6 4 speed dog engagementcall > > > Prices and specifications subject to change without notice. > > > Here is your chance to get Quaife differentials and gearkits at > never-to-be-seen-again prices. Prices are good only while supplies last. > Once they're gone, they're gone.TRIUMPH > 95.309.160Triumph TR6 - TR5902.44 > ____________________________________________________________ > Doctorate Degrees Online > Boost your career with an online doctoral degree. Enroll today! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=m2dAQP1rcp7K9q0uBZq7cQAAJ1CU0Hc Z7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAFAntD4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAyOQAAAAA= > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of triumph-title.gif] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of news2.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of H_I_sale.gif] > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com From gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com Sun Nov 22 10:23:07 2009 From: gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com (Greg Solow) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:23:07 -0800 Subject: [Fot] test of system Message-ID: This is just a test to see if my Email system is working The Engine Room Morgan & Sports Car Specialists Santa Cruz, Calif. 95060 831 429-1800 From gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com Sun Nov 22 10:27:34 2009 From: gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com (Greg Solow) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:27:34 -0800 Subject: [Fot] this is a tesst Message-ID: <946FCCA2AB034958B3A7BED3A76C69CA@your89d26e0447> test The Engine Room Morgan & Sports Car Specialists Santa Cruz, Calif. 95060 831 429-1800 From wgrosenbach at juno.com Sun Nov 22 13:37:47 2009 From: wgrosenbach at juno.com (William G Rosenbach) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:37:47 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife Message-ID: <20091122.133748.2568.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> Dean, Thanks for finding that. Every time I copied and pasted a URL, it pasted the same info regardless of the page I was on. Then it wouldn't take you there. Bill On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:42:49 -0600 (CST) Dean Tetterton writes: Try this link http://www.autotech.com/quaife/gears/triumph.htm Dean T. On Nov 22, 2009, Bill Babcock wrote: Couldn't find it on their website. I'm interested. On Nov 21, 2009, at 8:19 PM, William G Rosenbach wrote: > Greetings all, > Autotech.com in California stocks Quaife gear sets and has the TR-6, and > it's on SALE!. > I cut and pasted, so I hope it posts correctly, > Bill > > > > ____________________________________________________________ Online Doctorate Degrees Find leading online Phd programs. Study anywhere anytime. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=J__JNfVg7aQ5V8CT8N2M5wAAJ1CU0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAADp7tT4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaUcwAAAAA= From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Sun Nov 22 14:32:46 2009 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis DeLap) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:32:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife In-Reply-To: <20091122.133748.2568.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> References: <20091122.133748.2568.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> Message-ID: <915802.98043.qm@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Has anyone got a price yet? Dean, Thanks for finding that. Every time I copied and pasted a URL, it pasted the same info regardless of the page I was on. Then it wouldn't take you there. Bill On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:42:49 -0600 (CST) Dean Tetterton writes: Try this link http://www.autotech.com/quaife/gears/triumph.htm Dean T. On Nov 22, 2009, Bill Babcock wrote: Couldn't find it on their website. I'm interested. On Nov 21, 2009, at 8:19 PM, William G Rosenbach wrote: > Greetings all, > Autotech.com in California stocks Quaife gear sets and has the TR-6, and > it's on SALE!. > I cut and pasted, so I hope it posts correctly, > Bill > > > > ____________________________________________________________ Online Doctorate Degrees Find leading online Phd programs. Study anywhere anytime. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=J__JNfVg7aQ5V8CT8N2M5wAAJ1CU0Hc Z7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAADp7tT4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaUcwAAAAA= _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as yellow-green at sbcglobal.net http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as yellow-green at sbcglobal.net From rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Sun Nov 22 14:34:36 2009 From: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:34:36 -0600 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife References: <20091122.133748.2568.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> Message-ID: <0081C46CEC8B44988A1B62FF54A9EBBF@latitudefb1e41> This link shows the price: http://www.autotech.com/quaife/index2.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "William G Rosenbach" To: Cc: Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife > Dean, > Thanks for finding that. Every time I copied and pasted a URL, it pasted > the same info regardless of the page I was on. Then it wouldn't take you > there. > Bill > > On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:42:49 -0600 (CST) Dean Tetterton > writes: > Try this link http://www.autotech.com/quaife/gears/triumph.htm > > Dean T. > > > > On Nov 22, 2009, Bill Babcock wrote: > Couldn't find it on their website. I'm interested. > > On Nov 21, 2009, at 8:19 PM, William G Rosenbach wrote: > >> Greetings all, >> Autotech.com in California stocks Quaife gear sets and has the TR-6, > and >> it's on SALE!. >> I cut and pasted, so I hope it posts correctly, >> Bill >> >> >> >> > ____________________________________________________________ > Online Doctorate Degrees > Find leading online Phd programs. Study anywhere anytime. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=J__JNfVg7aQ5V8CT8N2M5wAAJ1CU0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAADp7tT4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaUcwAAAAA= > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rkramer3 at austin.rr.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as rkramer3 at austin.rr.com From tr4racing at googlemail.com Sun Nov 22 15:30:13 2009 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:30:13 +0100 Subject: [Fot] spark plug help In-Reply-To: <351778.18692.qm@web46110.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <351778.18692.qm@web46110.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000901ca6bc3$6050e730$20f2b590$@com> Hi, I use Bosch W6BC, gapped at 0.7 mm. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Mike Mehl Gesendet: Sonntag, 22. November 2009 01:56 An: Triumph Friends of Betreff: [Fot] spark plug help The TR4 is coming along. The engine is back in the car. The roll cage is done. The fuel cell is plumbed in. The distributor is back from Jeff at Advanced Distributor. The compression is 11.27 to 1. What plugs should I use? What gap with those plugs? Thanks!!!! Mike Mehl You are subscribed as tr4racing at googlemail.com http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as tr4racing at googlemail.com From tr4racing at googlemail.com Sun Nov 22 15:33:19 2009 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:33:19 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Video racing in USA In-Reply-To: <4b08c684.0a08c00a.19c5.4340SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> References: <001201ca6b04$46020860$d2061920$@com> <4b08c684.0a08c00a.19c5.4340SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <000a01ca6bc3$d0957150$71c053f0$@com> The missing link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H06_ZSdhHFA&translated=1 -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Tony Drews [mailto:tony at tonydrews.com] Gesendet: Sonntag, 22. November 2009 06:05 An: MadMarx Betreff: Re: [Fot] Video racing in USA I think you forgot the link... - Tony At 05:42 PM 11/21/2009, you wrote: >I don't know if this has been posted before but there are some TR3 visible. > >Cheers >CHris >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as tony at tonydrews.com > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > >Fot at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > >You are subscribed as tony at tonydrews.com From Lunkercars at earthlink.net Sun Nov 22 15:34:53 2009 From: Lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg "Lunker" Hilyer) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:34:53 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Racin' for charity [no Triumph content] Message-ID: <811F9658-4803-4D99-856B-1B09CE645EF3@earthlink.net> Hello FoTers, Did you know November is Diabetes Awareness Month? The 29th of this month, our local kart racing club [Albuquerque Karting] is holding a Charity Enduro in support of the Junior Diabetes Research Foundation. 180 laps, 3 drivers per team and one must be a novice in this type of kart - that's me! The karts are called TaG's - Touch and Go - for their electric start and centrifugal clutch. On this technical 1/3rd mile track these little beasties are actually faster than any of the shifters! A far difference from the 4 stroke "Concession Karts" I race in the league races. 10 laps is fairly brutal. My first practice in one was 2 weeks ago - I managed 33 laps in 3 sessions and could hardly hold the steering wheel to drive myself home. Today we had a 90 lap "mini-enduro" practice race and my 30 lap stint didn't get me quite as bad [yet?] as I expected. But 60 laps is going to HURT. So yes, this posting is pure solicitation. If anyone feels compelled to support me in fundraising, it would be personally appreciated and you can be assured your contribution is going to a truly worthy cause. So far I've received donations from $10 to $250 - no amount is too small. The race is this coming Sunday the 29th but there's still plenty of time to put a check in the mail or send a Pay-Pal. If paying by check, please make it out to J.D.R.F. [Junior Diabetes Research Foundation] and send to my address below. If sending a Pay-Pal, I will cover the fees so that 100% of your donation goes to JDRF. I will get individual cash receipts at the event and mail it back to you. As in our vintage racing there is nothing to be won - just bragging rights for the fastest team and the team that raises the most money. My team-mate Chris Norris put this thing together. At age 12 he went to bed one night and woke up 3 weeks later with FOUR I.V.'s in him and insulin dependance for life. Today Chris went out in our practice race and broke the track record in each of three consecutive laps. My pace was 1.1 secs. off his so not so bad for the rookie I guess. Our team [Team Machine] won today by 5 laps. On the other hand, one of the faster teams didn't feel the need to practice today - they could be a force. We have 7 confirmed teams and hoping for 9-10. Thanks in advance, Greg "Lunker" Hilyer TR4 #314 323-K Claremont Ave NW Albuquerque NM 87107 From triosan at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 09:33:53 2009 From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:33:53 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife In-Reply-To: <7BEE405E-CB47-438F-A3C8-1291662DC36F@bnj.com> References: <20091121.211928.1204.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> <8cbd782d0911221015o7ff94f91i6d8fef453d1189b@mail.gmail.com> <499A76DE-BDD5-48F8-82BE-196959B94C47@bnj.com> <7BEE405E-CB47-438F-A3C8-1291662DC36F@bnj.com> Message-ID: <8cbd782d0911230833y6b339a6x22e1fd4f8283e485@mail.gmail.com> Unfortunately that part number was for a differential, not a gear set. They have no TR gear sets. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: > Here's the ratios. The 2.013 looks good to me. > http://www.autotech.com/quaife/gears/triumph.htm > On Nov 22, 2009, at 12:22 PM, Tony and Annie Garmey wrote: > > Hey Bill, > Jezz what a price. Scam ?? > Can you please have them send 2 sets to me. I'll give you a credit on Peytoe > for cost of one set. > Thank you. > Tony > 21703 234th ave SE > Maple valley wa 98038 > >> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife >> From: billb at bnj.com >> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:47:19 -0800 >> CC: horizonracing at msn.com >> To: triosan at gmail.com >> >> Wow, nine hundred bucks is about $500 less than I paid a year or so ago. >> Tony, I'm going to get one shipped to you. What address should I use. Does >> it make more sense for you to order it? >> >> >> >> On Nov 22, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Chuck Arnold wrote: >> >> > I found this link: >> > http://www.autotech.com/quaife/news.htm >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: >> >> Couldn't find it on their website. I'm interested. >> >> >> >> On Nov 21, 2009, at 8:19 PM, William G Rosenbach wrote: >> >> >> >>> Greetings all, >> >>> Autotech.com in California stocks Quaife gear sets and has the TR-6, >> >>> and >> >>> it's on SALE!. >> >>> I cut and pasted, so I hope it posts correctly, >> >>> Bill >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> 4 SPEED DOG ENGAGEMENT GEARKIT >> >>> >> >>> Straight cut, close ratios gears >> >>> Needle roller bearings support free running gears >> >>> Includes new Quaife mainshaft >> >>> Choice of 1st gear ratios >> >>> GEAR RATIOS >> >>> 1st2nd3rd4th >> >>> 2.013 >> >>> 2.223 1.5131.2051.000 >> >>> >> >>> Triumph TR6 4 speed dog engagementcall >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Prices and specifications subject to change without notice. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Here is your chance to get Quaife differentials and gearkits at >> >>> never-to-be-seen-again prices. Prices are good only while supplies >> >>> last. >> >>> Once they're gone, they're gone.TRIUMPH >> >>> 95.309.160Triumph TR6 - TR5902.44 >> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >> >>> Doctorate Degrees Online >> >>> Boost your career with an online doctoral degree. Enroll today! >> >>> >> >> >> >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=m2dAQP1rcp7K9q0uBZq7cQAAJ1CU 0Hc >> >> Z7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAFAntD4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAyOQAAAAA= >> >>> >> >>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name >> >>> of >> >> triumph-title.gif] >> >>> >> >>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >> >>> name of >> >> news2.jpg] >> >>> >> >>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name >> >>> of >> >> H_I_sale.gif] >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> >> >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >>> >> >>> You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com >> >>> >> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Fot at autox.team.net >> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >>> >> >>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> >> >> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >> >> >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> >> >> >> >> >> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Chuck Arnold >> > > -- Chuck Arnold From billb at bnj.com Mon Nov 23 09:54:55 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:54:55 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife In-Reply-To: <8cbd782d0911230833y6b339a6x22e1fd4f8283e485@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091121.211928.1204.1.wgrosenbach@juno.com> <8cbd782d0911221015o7ff94f91i6d8fef453d1189b@mail.gmail.com> <499A76DE-BDD5-48F8-82BE-196959B94C47@bnj.com> <7BEE405E-CB47-438F-A3C8-1291662DC36F@bnj.com> <8cbd782d0911230833y6b339a6x22e1fd4f8283e485@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Bummer. Sure looked like a good deal. too good. On Nov 23, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Chuck Arnold wrote: > Unfortunately that part number was for a differential, not a gear set. > They have no TR gear sets. > > On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: >> Here's the ratios. The 2.013 looks good to me. >> http://www.autotech.com/quaife/gears/triumph.htm >> On Nov 22, 2009, at 12:22 PM, Tony and Annie Garmey wrote: >> >> Hey Bill, >> Jezz what a price. Scam ?? >> Can you please have them send 2 sets to me. I'll give you a credit on Peytoe >> for cost of one set. >> Thank you. >> Tony >> 21703 234th ave SE >> Maple valley wa 98038 >> >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife >>> From: billb at bnj.com >>> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:47:19 -0800 >>> CC: horizonracing at msn.com >>> To: triosan at gmail.com >>> >>> Wow, nine hundred bucks is about $500 less than I paid a year or so ago. >>> Tony, I'm going to get one shipped to you. What address should I use. Does >>> it make more sense for you to order it? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Nov 22, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Chuck Arnold wrote: >>> >>>> I found this link: >>>> http://www.autotech.com/quaife/news.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: >>>>> Couldn't find it on their website. I'm interested. >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 21, 2009, at 8:19 PM, William G Rosenbach wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Greetings all, >>>>>> Autotech.com in California stocks Quaife gear sets and has the TR-6, >>>>>> and >>>>>> it's on SALE!. >>>>>> I cut and pasted, so I hope it posts correctly, >>>>>> Bill >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 4 SPEED DOG ENGAGEMENT GEARKIT >>>>>> >>>>>> Straight cut, close ratios gears >>>>>> Needle roller bearings support free running gears >>>>>> Includes new Quaife mainshaft >>>>>> Choice of 1st gear ratios >>>>>> GEAR RATIOS >>>>>> 1st2nd3rd4th >>>>>> 2.013 >>>>>> 2.223 1.5131.2051.000 >>>>>> >>>>>> Triumph TR6 4 speed dog engagementcall >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Prices and specifications subject to change without notice. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is your chance to get Quaife differentials and gearkits at >>>>>> never-to-be-seen-again prices. Prices are good only while supplies >>>>>> last. >>>>>> Once they're gone, they're gone.TRIUMPH >>>>>> 95.309.160Triumph TR6 - TR5902.44 >>>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>>> Doctorate Degrees Online >>>>>> Boost your career with an online doctoral degree. Enroll today! >>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=m2dAQP1rcp7K9q0uBZq7cQAAJ1CU0Hc >>>>> Z7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAFAntD4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAyOQAAAAA= >>>>>> >>>>>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name >>>>>> of >>>>> triumph-title.gif] >>>>>> >>>>>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a >>>>>> name of >>>>> news2.jpg] >>>>>> >>>>>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name >>>>>> of >>>>> H_I_sale.gif] >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>>> >>>>>> You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Fot at autox.team.net >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>>>>> >>>>>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> >>>>> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Fot at autox.team.net >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>>>> >>>>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Chuck Arnold >>> >> >> > > > > -- > Chuck Arnold From Lunkercars at earthlink.net Mon Nov 23 10:13:34 2009 From: Lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg Lunker Hilyer) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:13:34 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Quaife dog gears Message-ID: <9763EFF1-8F8A-4A9C-865C-8FC85446F2CF@earthlink.net> Here's the skinny on Quaife/TR. AutoTech is no longer a Quaife distributor. They are selling off in-stock inventory. No trans parts available but they do have a great deal on a few LSD's at $902. They referred me to Motorvicity in Michigan. Dog kits are available with either a 2.013 or 2.223 1st and either a TR6 or Dolomite main shaft. Price was quoted at $2658 but would go down to $2127 on a order of 5. Might be a additional discount available for 10+. Still too rich for me but it sure would be nice. Might actually be cheaper in the long run given my consumption rate of gearboxes but probably not in my immediate future. Greg "Lunker" Hilyer TR4 #314 Albuquerque NM From wgrosenbach at juno.com Mon Nov 23 10:13:46 2009 From: wgrosenbach at juno.com (William G Rosenbach) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:13:46 -0700 Subject: [Fot] All Hail Lucas, Prince of Darkness! Message-ID: <20091123.101347.2856.5.wgrosenbach@juno.com> We've all been there. http://www.hummingbirds.net/lucas/index.html ____________________________________________________________ Free College Information Connect to the online college that best fits your needs. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=QzS8GpdslJrIxnV5GJIx4gAAJ1CU0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAJ9cGD4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAJWaQAAAAA= From wgrosenbach at juno.com Mon Nov 23 11:07:51 2009 From: wgrosenbach at juno.com (William G Rosenbach) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:07:51 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife Message-ID: <20091123.110751.2856.6.wgrosenbach@juno.com> That really is sad. There was a typo disclaimer, though. Makes you wonder about all the other cool stuff listed. Sorry for the wild goose chase, Bill ____________________________________________________________ Health Insurance Deals Get free online quotes on self employed health insurance - Save 30%! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=XBnQuzGnyNtpgkgB2fOZHQAAJ1CU0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAADi4QD4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABJQVgAAAAA= From Lunkercars at earthlink.net Mon Nov 23 11:28:33 2009 From: Lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg "Lunker" Hilyer) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:28:33 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Quaife dog gears In-Reply-To: <8cbd782d0911231018h4939f4f2h7e83ffd99b45af22@mail.gmail.com> References: <9763EFF1-8F8A-4A9C-865C-8FC85446F2CF@earthlink.net> <8cbd782d0911231018h4939f4f2h7e83ffd99b45af22@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0330F47F-60D3-4211-93C9-4F076BDB5A92@earthlink.net> Yeah... It does seem to be a pay now or pay later deal. I'm already good money down the drain with the Dolo/6 set I broke in Portland [still haven't investigated the damage]. I actually might step up if we could get the 5+ price. Greg On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Chuck Arnold wrote: > Thanks for the additional research. Pretty pricey, but Tony G says it > is the only way to go to assure your box will last. Given that he > will do a rebuild and install the Dolomite close ratio set for about > $2000it will only take the one he has done for me blowing up beyond > repair to justify the Quaife cost [course I already have sunk the 2K]. > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Greg Lunker > wrote: >> Here's the skinny on Quaife/TR. AutoTech is no longer a Quaife >> distributor. >> They are selling off in-stock inventory. No trans parts available >> but they >> do have a great deal on a few LSD's at $902. They referred me to >> Motorvicity >> in Michigan. Dog kits are available with either a 2.013 or 2.223 >> 1st and >> either a TR6 or Dolomite main shaft. Price was quoted at $2658 but >> would go >> down to $2127 on a order of 5. Might be a additional discount >> available for >> 10+. >> Still too rich for me but it sure would be nice. Might actually be >> cheaper >> in the long run given my consumption rate of gearboxes but >> probably not in >> my immediate future. >> >> Greg "Lunker" Hilyer >> TR4 #314 >> Albuquerque NM >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> >> >> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >> > > > > -- > Chuck Arnold From timmurph at fastbytes.com Mon Nov 23 11:38:26 2009 From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:38:26 -0600 Subject: [Fot] spark plug help In-Reply-To: <351778.18692.qm@web46110.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <351778.18692.qm@web46110.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000801ca6c6c$25a07160$70e15420$@com> We use NGK BPR7HS gapped at 0.025 or about 0.65mm. Tim 1961 TR4 #317 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Mehl Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 6:56 PM To: Triumph Friends of Subject: [Fot] spark plug help The TR4 is coming along. The engine is back in the car. The roll cage is done. The fuel cell is plumbed in. The distributor is back from Jeff at Advanced Distributor. The compression is 11.27 to 1. What plugs should I use? What gap with those plugs? Thanks!!!! Mike Mehl You are subscribed as timmurph at fastbytes.com http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as timmurph at fastbytes.com From rek46 at aol.com Mon Nov 23 11:44:48 2009 From: rek46 at aol.com (rek46 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:44:48 CST Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife Message-ID: I can't believe you don't justin welded diffs -----Original Message----- Date: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:36:47 pm To: triosan at gmail.com Cc: fot at autox.team.net From: "William G Rosenbach" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife That really is sad. There was a typo disclaimer, though. Makes you wonder about all the other cool stuff listed. Sorry for the wild goose chase, Bill ____________________________________________________________ Health Insurance Deals Get free online quotes on self employed health insurance - Save 30%! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=XBnQuzGnyNtpgkgB2fOZHQAAJ1CU0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAADi4QD4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABJQVgAAAAA= You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com From billb at bnj.com Mon Nov 23 12:03:18 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:03:18 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Quaife dog gears In-Reply-To: <0330F47F-60D3-4211-93C9-4F076BDB5A92@earthlink.net> References: <9763EFF1-8F8A-4A9C-865C-8FC85446F2CF@earthlink.net> <8cbd782d0911231018h4939f4f2h7e83ffd99b45af22@mail.gmail.com> <0330F47F-60D3-4211-93C9-4F076BDB5A92@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <6C084C4A-EF51-43C9-A304-18CB40D1A034@bnj.com> The dog boxes are great, but they are not bulletproof, I dropped one right at turn 1 at Pacific Raceways--peyote wound up with it's front end in the air plowing the infield with what was left of the gearbox. And don't forget that you need a good TR6 gearcase to install the set into, and installing it isn't trivial, though nothing as ugly as building a good stocker CR box. On Nov 23, 2009, at 10:28 AM, Greg Lunker Hilyer wrote: > Yeah... It does seem to be a pay now or pay later deal. I'm already good money down the drain with the Dolo/6 set I broke in Portland [still haven't investigated the damage]. I actually might step up if we could get the 5+ price. > Greg > On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Chuck Arnold wrote: > >> Thanks for the additional research. Pretty pricey, but Tony G says it >> is the only way to go to assure your box will last. Given that he >> will do a rebuild and install the Dolomite close ratio set for about >> $2000it will only take the one he has done for me blowing up beyond >> repair to justify the Quaife cost [course I already have sunk the 2K]. >> >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Greg Lunker wrote: >>> Here's the skinny on Quaife/TR. AutoTech is no longer a Quaife distributor. >>> They are selling off in-stock inventory. No trans parts available but they >>> do have a great deal on a few LSD's at $902. They referred me to Motorvicity >>> in Michigan. Dog kits are available with either a 2.013 or 2.223 1st and >>> either a TR6 or Dolomite main shaft. Price was quoted at $2658 but would go >>> down to $2127 on a order of 5. Might be a additional discount available for >>> 10+. >>> Still too rich for me but it sure would be nice. Might actually be cheaper >>> in the long run given my consumption rate of gearboxes but probably not in >>> my immediate future. >>> >>> Greg "Lunker" Hilyer >>> TR4 #314 >>> Albuquerque NM >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>> >>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >>> >>> >>> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Chuck Arnold > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com From fasttrs at mindspring.com Mon Nov 23 12:16:43 2009 From: fasttrs at mindspring.com (Mike Munson) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:16:43 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife/Lincoln Locker Message-ID: <15575114.1259003803742.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> On my TR6 I have been Using Lincoln Lockers but now that I am making more horsepower I am breaking the short diff hub right at the keyway. I have broken two in the last two races. I guess it may be better to have some kind if limited slip now but they cost way more than the LL. Mike -----Original Message----- >From: "rek46 at aol.com" >Sent: Nov 23, 2009 12:44 PM >To: William G Rosenbach , triosan at gmail.com >Cc: fot at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife > >I can't believe you don't justin welded diffs >-----Original Message----- >Date: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:36:47 pm >To: triosan at gmail.com >Cc: fot at autox.team.net >From: "William G Rosenbach" >Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife > >That really is sad. There was a typo disclaimer, though. Makes you wonder > >about all the other cool stuff listed. > >Sorry for the wild goose chase, > >Bill > >____________________________________________________________ > >Health Insurance Deals > >Get free online quotes on self employed health insurance - Save 30%! > >http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=XBnQuzGnyNtpgkgB2fOZHQAAJ1CU0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAADi4QD4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABJQVgAAAAA= >You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com > > > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > > >Fot at autox.team.net > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > > > >You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as fasttrs at mindspring.com > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > >Fot at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > >You are subscribed as fasttrs at mindspring.com From billb at bnj.com Mon Nov 23 12:41:24 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:41:24 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Quaife dog gears In-Reply-To: <5882AD31-F428-4817-BDBE-D1F344E23718@earthlink.net> References: <9763EFF1-8F8A-4A9C-865C-8FC85446F2CF@earthlink.net> <8cbd782d0911231018h4939f4f2h7e83ffd99b45af22@mail.gmail.com> <0330F47F-60D3-4211-93C9-4F076BDB5A92@earthlink.net> <6C084C4A-EF51-43C9-A304-18CB40D1A034@bnj.com> <5882AD31-F428-4817-BDBE-D1F344E23718@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <893ED3A0-C1E2-417E-841E-8E8007338096@bnj.com> Nope, it wen't boom at about 130 mph and got dragged on the pavement. Not much opportunity for forensics. I gave the trailer to my Daughter. I'm probably going to be selling Nero sooner or later though. But it won't be all that cheap. On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:08 AM, Greg Lunker Hilyer wrote: > Hi Bill, > Do you know what failed in that box. Who's internals? Any opinion on Quaife's quality? > Also, do you still have that trailer? Want to off it? > Greg > On Nov 23, 2009, at 12:03 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: > >> The dog boxes are great, but they are not bulletproof, I dropped one right at turn 1 at Pacific Raceways--peyote wound up with it's front end in the air plowing the infield with what was left of the gearbox. And don't forget that you need a good TR6 gearcase to install the set into, and installing it isn't trivial, though nothing as ugly as building a good stocker CR box. >> >> On Nov 23, 2009, at 10:28 AM, Greg Lunker Hilyer wrote: >> >>> Yeah... It does seem to be a pay now or pay later deal. I'm already good money down the drain with the Dolo/6 set I broke in Portland [still haven't investigated the damage]. I actually might step up if we could get the 5+ price. >>> Greg >>> On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Chuck Arnold wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks for the additional research. Pretty pricey, but Tony G says it >>>> is the only way to go to assure your box will last. Given that he >>>> will do a rebuild and install the Dolomite close ratio set for about >>>> $2000it will only take the one he has done for me blowing up beyond >>>> repair to justify the Quaife cost [course I already have sunk the 2K]. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Greg Lunker wrote: >>>>> Here's the skinny on Quaife/TR. AutoTech is no longer a Quaife distributor. >>>>> They are selling off in-stock inventory. No trans parts available but they >>>>> do have a great deal on a few LSD's at $902. They referred me to Motorvicity >>>>> in Michigan. Dog kits are available with either a 2.013 or 2.223 1st and >>>>> either a TR6 or Dolomite main shaft. Price was quoted at $2658 but would go >>>>> down to $2127 on a order of 5. Might be a additional discount available for >>>>> 10+. >>>>> Still too rich for me but it sure would be nice. Might actually be cheaper >>>>> in the long run given my consumption rate of gearboxes but probably not in >>>>> my immediate future. >>>>> >>>>> Greg "Lunker" Hilyer >>>>> TR4 #314 >>>>> Albuquerque NM >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> >>>>> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Fot at autox.team.net >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>>>> >>>>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Chuck Arnold >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>> >>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >>> >>> >>> You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com From RKramer at rdoequipment.com Mon Nov 23 12:58:06 2009 From: RKramer at rdoequipment.com (Kramer, Robert) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:58:06 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Quaife dog gears In-Reply-To: <6C084C4A-EF51-43C9-A304-18CB40D1A034@bnj.com> References: <9763EFF1-8F8A-4A9C-865C-8FC85446F2CF@earthlink.net> <8cbd782d0911231018h4939f4f2h7e83ffd99b45af22@mail.gmail.com> <0330F47F-60D3-4211-93C9-4F076BDB5A92@earthlink.net> <6C084C4A-EF51-43C9-A304-18CB40D1A034@bnj.com> Message-ID: Moss Europe is selling the CR gear sets TT2210 again and the loose gears for Explodo-Pop transmissions like Lunkers. At 390 pounds they cost about $650 a set before shipping. Last time I bought one it was around $550 but methinks it is worth the money. As for installation it's the same deal, you need a good TR6 gearbox to for all but the 3rd and 4th gears with a minor case modification. If you can rebuild a TR tranny, you can build the Dolomite Close Ratio version Bob Kramer Sales Manager RDO Equipment Company 16415 N. IH 35 Pflugerville, TX 78660 512-272-4141 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Babcock Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:03 PM To: Greg "Lunker" Hilyer Cc: Friends Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife dog gears The dog boxes are great, but they are not bulletproof, I dropped one right at turn 1 at Pacific Raceways--peyote wound up with it's front end in the air plowing the infield with what was left of the gearbox. And don't forget that you need a good TR6 gearcase to install the set into, and installing it isn't trivial, though nothing as ugly as building a good stocker CR box. On Nov 23, 2009, at 10:28 AM, Greg Lunker Hilyer wrote: > Yeah... It does seem to be a pay now or pay later deal. I'm already good money down the drain with the Dolo/6 set I broke in Portland [still haven't investigated the damage]. I actually might step up if we could get the 5+ price. > Greg > On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Chuck Arnold wrote: > >> Thanks for the additional research. Pretty pricey, but Tony G says it >> is the only way to go to assure your box will last. Given that he >> will do a rebuild and install the Dolomite close ratio set for about >> $2000it will only take the one he has done for me blowing up beyond >> repair to justify the Quaife cost [course I already have sunk the 2K]. >> >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Greg Lunker wrote: >>> Here's the skinny on Quaife/TR. AutoTech is no longer a Quaife distributor. >>> They are selling off in-stock inventory. No trans parts available but they >>> do have a great deal on a few LSD's at $902. They referred me to Motorvicity >>> in Michigan. Dog kits are available with either a 2.013 or 2.223 1st and >>> either a TR6 or Dolomite main shaft. Price was quoted at $2658 but would go >>> down to $2127 on a order of 5. Might be a additional discount available for >>> 10+. >>> Still too rich for me but it sure would be nice. Might actually be cheaper >>> in the long run given my consumption rate of gearboxes but probably not in >>> my immediate future. >>> >>> Greg "Lunker" Hilyer >>> TR4 #314 >>> Albuquerque NM >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>> >>> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >>> >>> >>> You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Chuck Arnold > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com You are subscribed as rkramer at rdoequipment.com http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as rkramer at rdoequipment.com From jeff_durant at comcast.net Mon Nov 23 13:13:57 2009 From: jeff_durant at comcast.net (jeff_durant at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:13:57 +0000 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife/Lincoln Locker In-Reply-To: <15575114.1259003803742.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <15575114.1259003803742.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1590244058-1259007200-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-764750679-@bda037.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Mike, Not sure what a Lincoln Locker is but I had the same problem on my TR6 running a Detroit Locker in the past. I lap the tapered shaft to the mating flange with fine Clover lapping paste, clean well and assemble. No issues since. Just finished painting my TR6 and hope to be ready for the spring. I was going to snag a Quaife gearset today until seeing the previous mails. Guess I'll stick to my still strong 1.88 1st Kastner gear sets (thanks Kas). Now if I can just keep the wife from buying an 7k French stove I can finish 2x engines. Jeff Durant '69 TR6 #12 '68 TR250 Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Mike Munson Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:16:43 -0600 (GMT-06:00) To: rek46 at aol.com; William G Rosenbach; Cc: Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife/Lincoln Locker On my TR6 I have been Using Lincoln Lockers but now that I am making more horsepower I am breaking the short diff hub right at the keyway. I have broken two in the last two races. I guess it may be better to have some kind if limited slip now but they cost way more than the LL. Mike -----Original Message----- >From: "rek46 at aol.com" >Sent: Nov 23, 2009 12:44 PM >To: William G Rosenbach , triosan at gmail.com >Cc: fot at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife > >I can't believe you don't justin welded diffs >-----Original Message----- >Date: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:36:47 pm >To: triosan at gmail.com >Cc: fot at autox.team.net >From: "William G Rosenbach" >Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife > >That really is sad. There was a typo disclaimer, though. Makes you wonder > >about all the other cool stuff listed. > >Sorry for the wild goose chase, > >Bill > >____________________________________________________________ > >Health Insurance Deals > >Get free online quotes on self employed health insurance - Save 30%! > >http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=XBnQuzGnyNtpgkgB2fOZHQAAJ1CU0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAADi4QD4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABJQVgAAAAA= >You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com > > > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > > >Fot at autox.team.net > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > > > >You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as fasttrs at mindspring.com > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > >Fot at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > >You are subscribed as fasttrs at mindspring.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as jeff_durant at comcast.net http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as jeff_durant at comcast.net From billb at bnj.com Mon Nov 23 14:23:34 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:23:34 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife/Lincoln Locker In-Reply-To: <15575114.1259003803742.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <15575114.1259003803742.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Stuff that breaks is more expensive than stuff that doesn't. On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Mike Munson wrote: > On my TR6 I have been Using Lincoln Lockers but now that I am making more horsepower I am breaking the short diff hub right at the keyway. I have broken two in the last two races. I guess it may be better to have some kind if limited slip now but they cost way more than the LL. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- >> From: "rek46 at aol.com" >> Sent: Nov 23, 2009 12:44 PM >> To: William G Rosenbach , triosan at gmail.com >> Cc: fot at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife >> >> I can't believe you don't justin welded diffs >> -----Original Message----- >> Date: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:36:47 pm >> To: triosan at gmail.com >> Cc: fot at autox.team.net >> From: "William G Rosenbach" >> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife >> >> That really is sad. There was a typo disclaimer, though. Makes you wonder >> >> about all the other cool stuff listed. >> >> Sorry for the wild goose chase, >> >> Bill >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> >> Health Insurance Deals >> >> Get free online quotes on self employed health insurance - Save 30%! >> >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=XBnQuzGnyNtpgkgB2fOZHQAAJ1CU0Hc Z7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAADi4QD4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABJQVgAAAAA= >> You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com >> >> >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> >> >> >> >> >> You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as fasttrs at mindspring.com >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> >> >> You are subscribed as fasttrs at mindspring.com > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com From bownes at seiri.com Mon Nov 23 14:59:21 2009 From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:59:21 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife/Lincoln Locker In-Reply-To: References: <15575114.1259003803742.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Amen to that Brother Babcock! The failure mode is clearly indicative of a stress riser. As someone else mentioned, a little judicious grinding and lapping may help make the problem go away. On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: > Stuff that breaks is more expensive than stuff that doesn't. > On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Mike Munson wrote: > > > On my TR6 I have been Using Lincoln Lockers but now that I am making more > horsepower I am breaking the short diff hub right at the keyway. I have > broken > two in the last two races. I guess it may be better to have some kind if > limited slip now but they cost way more than the LL. > > > > Mike > > > > -----Original Message----- > >> From: "rek46 at aol.com" > >> Sent: Nov 23, 2009 12:44 PM > >> To: William G Rosenbach , triosan at gmail.com > >> Cc: fot at autox.team.net > >> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife > >> > >> I can't believe you don't justin welded diffs > >> -----Original Message----- > >> Date: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:36:47 pm > >> To: triosan at gmail.com > >> Cc: fot at autox.team.net > >> From: "William G Rosenbach" > >> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife > >> > >> That really is sad. There was a typo disclaimer, though. Makes you > wonder > >> > >> about all the other cool stuff listed. > >> > >> Sorry for the wild goose chase, > >> > >> Bill > >> > >> ____________________________________________________________ > >> > >> Health Insurance Deals > >> > >> Get free online quotes on self employed health insurance - Save 30%! > >> > >> > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=XBnQuzGnyNtpgkgB2fOZHQAAJ1CU0Hc > Z7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAADi4QD4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABJQVgAAAAA= > >> You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com > >> > >> > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >> > >> > >> > >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> You are subscribed as rek46 at aol.com > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> > >> You are subscribed as fasttrs at mindspring.com > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> > >> Fot at autox.team.net > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >> > >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > >> > >> > >> You are subscribed as fasttrs at mindspring.com > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > > > Fot at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bownes at web9.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as bownes at web9.com From Lunkercars at earthlink.net Mon Nov 23 15:18:29 2009 From: Lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg Lunker Hilyer) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:18:29 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Dog-box kits Message-ID: <252984B1-1A29-4ED6-A964-86134163326C@earthlink.net> Hello all, I've had quite a bit of interest so here's a bit more info. The deal available: For Quaife there is nothing available off the shelf. Minimum run is 10 at the price of $2127 ea. and 16 weeks from order date to shipping from the UK. They have no-cost options of TR6 or Dolomite main-shaft and a 2.013 or 2.223 1st. The others are 1.513 2nd, 1.205 3rd and of course 1.00 4th. Alternate ratios MIGHT be possible. Haven't discussed it but maybe we could get a O.D. shaft as well. Kit consists of: 4 speed dog engagement gearkit, Straight cut, close ratio gears, Needle roller bearings support free running gears, QUAIFE mainshaft included. I can get a guarantee of 16 weeks - if for some reason there is a delay, individuals could opt-out but the order would still go thru. 75% deposit may or may not be negotiable. Includes shipping to Michigan, shipping to your address at cost. Other countries can be drop-shipped from the UK. At first impression the price seemed beyond my cheapo budgeting. But if it gives a bit of longevity over our synchro boxes, it might be better and more cost effective in the long run - and superior. The only production-car dog-box I've driven is a Bugeye, but what a dreamy transmission - a guy could get used to that. Honestly it might be worth a second a lap [anywhere] just in lightning-fast shifts. Any opinions as the strength/reliability to be gained? Any ideas on a alternative manufacturer that might offer a superior product or price? All the dog-boxes I know of in Bugeyes use Tiliton clutches - is that really necessary? Seems to me more to the "Vintage Spirit" than anything using a non- OEM case and vastly superior. Anyone want to put this out to the TVR/Morgan lists? Greg "Lunker" Hilyer --- With broken transmissions stacked like cord- wood. And honest... I'm easy on transmissions in anything but a TR. TR4 #314 Albuquerque NM From tlizzard at msn.com Mon Nov 23 15:34:44 2009 From: tlizzard at msn.com (Terry Stetler) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:34:44 -0500 Subject: [Fot] All Hail Lucas, Prince of Darkness! In-Reply-To: <20091123.101347.2856.5.wgrosenbach@juno.com> References: <20091123.101347.2856.5.wgrosenbach@juno.com> Message-ID: Thanks, I needed some good humour today! Terry Stetler. ----- Original Message ----- From: William G Rosenbach To: FOT at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: [Fot] All Hail Lucas, Prince of Darkness! We've all been there. http://www.hummingbirds.net/lucas/index.html ____________________________________________________________ Free College Information Connect to the online college that best fits your needs. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=QzS8GpdslJrIxnV5GJIx4gAAJ1CU0 HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAJ9cGD4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAJWaQAAAAA= _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as tlizzard at msn.com http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as tlizzard at msn.com From jsiam1 at earthlink.net Mon Nov 23 16:21:17 2009 From: jsiam1 at earthlink.net (Joseph Siam) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:21:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Dog-box kits Message-ID: <27675449.1259018477775.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi All I build a Dog Box for the Spitfires. It is a lot of work to put together and is worth at least a few seconds a lap on most of our tracks At $2127 thats a good price. Does it use stock shift forks bearings and spacers? Joe -----Original Message----- >From: Greg Lunker Hilyer >Sent: Nov 23, 2009 5:18 PM >To: Friends Triumph' Triumph >Subject: [Fot] Dog-box kits > >Hello all, >I've had quite a bit of interest so here's a bit more info. >The deal available: >For Quaife there is nothing available off the shelf. Minimum run is >10 at the price of $2127 ea. and 16 weeks from order date to shipping >from the UK. They have no-cost options of TR6 or Dolomite main-shaft >and a 2.013 or 2.223 1st. The others are 1.513 2nd, 1.205 3rd and of >course 1.00 4th. Alternate ratios MIGHT be possible. Haven't >discussed it but maybe we could get a O.D. shaft as well. >Kit consists of: >4 speed dog engagement gearkit, >Straight cut, close ratio gears, >Needle roller bearings support free running gears, >QUAIFE mainshaft included. > >I can get a guarantee of 16 weeks - if for some reason there is a >delay, individuals could opt-out but the order would still go thru. >75% deposit may or may not be negotiable. Includes shipping to >Michigan, shipping to your address at cost. Other countries can be >drop-shipped from the UK. >At first impression the price seemed beyond my cheapo budgeting. But >if it gives a bit of longevity over our synchro boxes, it might be >better and more cost effective in the long run - and superior. The >only production-car dog-box I've driven is a Bugeye, but what a >dreamy transmission - a guy could get used to that. Honestly it >might be worth a second a lap [anywhere] just in lightning-fast shifts. >Any opinions as the strength/reliability to be gained? >Any ideas on a alternative manufacturer that might offer a superior >product or price? >All the dog-boxes I know of in Bugeyes use Tiliton clutches - is that >really necessary? >Seems to me more to the "Vintage Spirit" than anything using a non- >OEM case and vastly superior. >Anyone want to put this out to the TVR/Morgan lists? > >Greg "Lunker" Hilyer --- With broken transmissions stacked like cord- >wood. And honest... I'm easy on transmissions in anything but a TR. >TR4 #314 >Albuquerque NM >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as jsiam1 at earthlink.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > >Fot at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > >Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > >You are subscribed as jsiam1 at earthlink.net Chequered Flag Racing .net Joseph P. Siam 9833 Deering Ave unit I Chatsworth Ca 91311 818 350 6222 From Gt6steve at aol.com Mon Nov 23 16:22:09 2009 From: Gt6steve at aol.com (Gt6steve at aol.com) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:22:09 EST Subject: [Fot] Quaife dogbox gearsets Message-ID: If we can get the Quaife TR6 straighcut dog gearsets for $2200 I'm in for one! From horizonracing at msn.com Mon Nov 23 16:53:33 2009 From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:53:33 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Dog-box kits In-Reply-To: <252984B1-1A29-4ED6-A964-86134163326C@earthlink.net> References: <252984B1-1A29-4ED6-A964-86134163326C@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Also to note: the Quaife gears and hubs all come with Part #'s etched into them. If you need to change ratio's, wear out a dog hub etc, Ya can call quaife with said part # and they send you the Part :D I have a couple off Dog boxes in service that are not Quaife. I think they are out of Germany?? No spare parts available...you must buy a whole kit. All the Dog boxes I have being used get Crack checked every "off" season and the brgs/other bits n pieces get replaced. Average life span is 4-5 seasons. I've got 1 thats going in to it 7th season on the same set of gears and cases. Happy holidays Tony > To: fot at autox.team.net > From: Lunkercars at earthlink.net > Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:18:29 -0700 > Subject: [Fot] Dog-box kits > > Hello all, > I've had quite a bit of interest so here's a bit more info. > The deal available: > For Quaife there is nothing available off the shelf. Minimum run is > 10 at the price of $2127 ea. and 16 weeks from order date to shipping > from the UK. They have no-cost options of TR6 or Dolomite main-shaft > and a 2.013 or 2.223 1st. The others are 1.513 2nd, 1.205 3rd and of > course 1.00 4th. Alternate ratios MIGHT be possible. Haven't > discussed it but maybe we could get a O.D. shaft as well. > Kit consists of: > 4 speed dog engagement gearkit, > Straight cut, close ratio gears, > Needle roller bearings support free running gears, > QUAIFE mainshaft included. > > I can get a guarantee of 16 weeks - if for some reason there is a > delay, individuals could opt-out but the order would still go thru. > 75% deposit may or may not be negotiable. Includes shipping to > Michigan, shipping to your address at cost. Other countries can be > drop-shipped from the UK. > At first impression the price seemed beyond my cheapo budgeting. But > if it gives a bit of longevity over our synchro boxes, it might be > better and more cost effective in the long run - and superior. The > only production-car dog-box I've driven is a Bugeye, but what a > dreamy transmission - a guy could get used to that. Honestly it > might be worth a second a lap [anywhere] just in lightning-fast shifts. > Any opinions as the strength/reliability to be gained? > Any ideas on a alternative manufacturer that might offer a superior > product or price? > All the dog-boxes I know of in Bugeyes use Tiliton clutches - is that > really necessary? > Seems to me more to the "Vintage Spirit" than anything using a non- > OEM case and vastly superior. > Anyone want to put this out to the TVR/Morgan lists? > > Greg "Lunker" Hilyer --- With broken transmissions stacked like cord- > wood. And honest... I'm easy on transmissions in anything but a TR. > TR4 #314 > Albuquerque NM > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as horizonracing at msn.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as horizonracing at msn.com From chasgee at aol.com Mon Nov 23 17:27:17 2009 From: chasgee at aol.com (chasgee at aol.com) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:27:17 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Dog-box kits In-Reply-To: <27675449.1259018477775.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <27675449.1259018477775.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <8CC3AB402E96638-156C-9023@webmail-d002.sysops.aol.com> Keep in mind that the ratios are the same as the Dolomite close ratio set (except for first) so the lap times won't improve that much. There may be some benefit to the "clutchless" shifting, but other things in the drivetrain may start to break. Too bad they don't have off the shelf ratios like Hewland or Webster. If they did, then you would see a big benefit. Still, that's a good price for the amount of work required to do it yourself. Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Siam To: Greg Lunker Hilyer ; Friends Triumph'Triumph Sent: Mon, Nov 23, 2009 3:21 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Dog-box kits Hi All I build a Dog Box for the Spitfires. It is a lot of work to put together nd is worth at least a few seconds a lap on most of our tracks At $2127 thats good price. Does it use stock shift forks bearings and spacers? Joe -----Original Message----- From: Greg Lunker Hilyer Sent: Nov 23, 2009 5:18 PM To: Friends Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Dog-box kits Hello all, I've had quite a bit of interest so here's a bit more info. The deal available: For Quaife there is nothing available off the shelf. Minimum run is 10 at the price of $2127 ea. and 16 weeks from order date to shipping from the UK. They have no-cost options of TR6 or Dolomite main-shaft and a 2.013 or 2.223 1st. The others are 1.513 2nd, 1.205 3rd and of course 1.00 4th. Alternate ratios MIGHT be possible. Haven't discussed it but maybe we could get a O.D. shaft as well. Kit consists of: 4 speed dog engagement gearkit, Straight cut, close ratio gears, Needle roller bearings support free running gears, QUAIFE mainshaft included. I can get a guarantee of 16 weeks - if for some reason there is a delay, individuals could opt-out but the order would still go thru. 75% deposit may or may not be negotiable. Includes shipping to Michigan, shipping to your address at cost. Other countries can be drop-shipped from the UK. At first impression the price seemed beyond my cheapo budgeting. But if it gives a bit of longevity over our synchro boxes, it might be better and more cost effective in the long run - and superior. The only production-car dog-box I've driven is a Bugeye, but what a dreamy transmission - a guy could get used to that. Honestly it might be worth a second a lap [anywhere] just in lightning-fast shifts. Any opinions as the strength/reliability to be gained? Any ideas on a alternative manufacturer that might offer a superior product or price? All the dog-boxes I know of in Bugeyes use Tiliton clutches - is that really necessary? Seems to me more to the "Vintage Spirit" than anything using a non- OEM case and vastly superior. Anyone want to put this out to the TVR/Morgan lists? Greg "Lunker" Hilyer --- With broken transmissions stacked like cord- wood. And honest... I'm easy on transmissions in anything but a TR. TR4 #314 Albuquerque NM You are subscribed as jsiam1 at earthlink.net http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as jsiam1 at earthlink.net hequered Flag Racing .net oseph P. Siam 833 Deering Ave unit I hatsworth Ca 91311 18 350 6222 You are subscribed as chasgee at aol.com http://www.fot-racing.com ot at autox.team.net ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. ou are subscribed as chasgee at aol.com From timmurph at fastbytes.com Mon Nov 23 17:39:34 2009 From: timmurph at fastbytes.com (Tim Murphy) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:39:34 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Need screw in style bushing for Lucas PI injector/nozzle Message-ID: <000c01ca6c9e$990a6bb0$cb1f4310$@com> If anyone has a spare screw in style "nylon" bushing that holds the injector/nozzle into the intake manifold on the Triumph Lucas PI, please contact me. I sent my nozzles to Kisler to have them tested and reconditioned and one of the 40 year old screw in style bushings broke. I'm told they are made of nylon but it looks like it could be delrin. As I recall, delrin is more heat resistant than nylon and is resistant to gasoline also. Or if you know of a supplier in the U.S. that would be appreciated. I think I can get the bushings in England and could make one if it came to that. Thanks. Tim From Lunkercars at earthlink.net Mon Nov 23 17:40:11 2009 From: Lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg "Lunker" Hilyer) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:40:11 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Dog-box kits Message-ID: <06E07AFD-8A88-4E96-9956-E706C4F270A4@earthlink.net> I tend to agree. Seems to me that a smoother shifting box would have better longevity. No synchros or OEM top hat to break seems like a plus from the get- go. Replaceable parts help. And a superior shifting box. What's the down-side I'm missing? I understand that dog gears would not have prevented my breakage in Portland but that was only one fluke among my numerous transmission failures. Curious as to any opinion Kas may have. Greg "Lunker" Hilyer TR4 #314 Albuquerque NM Hey all I can tell you from a Spitfire guy is at 2200.00 you better buy IT!!!!!!!!! Same deal for a Spitfire is almost 5000.00 by the time it is installed and ready to run!!! Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, INC. 411 Allied Drive Nashville, TN 37211 866-455-7788 Phone 615-834-9923 Fax www.dieselperformanceparts.com -----Original Message From Lunkercars at earthlink.net Mon Nov 23 20:02:56 2009 From: Lunkercars at earthlink.net (Greg "Lunker" Hilyer) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:02:56 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Trumpeting a Triumph triumph Message-ID: Took a bit of timing/scoring research but it's official - A certain purple TR4 now holds the Vintage Production lap record [1:35.33] at Sandia Motorsports Park, Albuquerque NM http://www.sandiamotorsports.com/ Previous record was a Lotus Elan at 1:35.85. On a 14 turn, 1.6 mile track with [for me] 10 shifts per lap, the dog- box sounds pretty inviting. Greg "Lunker" Hilyer TR4 #314 Albuquerque NM From mark at bradakis.com Mon Nov 23 21:15:31 2009 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:15:31 -0700 Subject: [Fot] List notes Message-ID: <4B0B5DE3.5050204@bradakis.com> The lists at Team.Net have a size limit placed on messages sent to them. Here's a perfect example of why this is so. And of course I am quite aware of the irony here. Bob Dylan once sang "fearing not I'd become my enemy in the instant that I preach" so I'll press on. In the traffic about close ratio gear sets, one message *could* have been this, enclosed in the first set of '====' ==== > Unfortunately that part number was for a differential, not a gear set. > They have no TR gear sets. Bummer. Sure looked like a good deal. too good. ==== Short, sweet, to the point, just the one line response and the line that prompted the response right at the top, making it easy to follow. What we got, however, was not so simple. Page WAY down to the next set of '====' for my comments: ==== Bummer. Sure looked like a good deal. too good. On Nov 23, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Chuck Arnold wrote: > Unfortunately that part number was for a differential, not a gear set. > They have no TR gear sets. > > On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: >> Here's the ratios. The 2.013 looks good to me. >> http://www.autotech.com/quaife/gears/triumph.htm >> On Nov 22, 2009, at 12:22 PM, Tony and Annie Garmey wrote: >> >> Hey Bill, >> Jezz what a price. Scam ?? >> Can you please have them send 2 sets to me. I'll give you a credit on Peytoe >> for cost of one set. >> Thank you. >> Tony >> 21703 234th ave SE >> Maple valley wa 98038 >> >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife >>> From: billb at bnj.com >>> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:47:19 -0800 >>> CC: horizonracing at msn.com >>> To: triosan at gmail.com >>> >>> Wow, nine hundred bucks is about $500 less than I paid a year or so ago. >>> Tony, I'm going to get one shipped to you. What address should I use. Does >>> it make more sense for you to order it? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Nov 22, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Chuck Arnold wrote: >>> >>>> I found this link: >>>> http://www.autotech.com/quaife/news.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: >>>>> Couldn't find it on their website. I'm interested. >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 21, 2009, at 8:19 PM, William G Rosenbach wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Greetings all, >>>>>> Autotech.com in California stocks Quaife gear sets and has the TR-6, >>>>>> and >>>>>> it's on SALE!. >>>>>> I cut and pasted, so I hope it posts correctly, >>>>>> Bill >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 4 SPEED DOG ENGAGEMENT GEARKIT >>>>>> >>>>>> Straight cut, close ratios gears >>>>>> Needle roller bearings support free running gears >>>>>> Includes new Quaife mainshaft >>>>>> Choice of 1st gear ratios >>>>>> GEAR RATIOS >>>>>> 1st2nd3rd4th >>>>>> 2.013 >>>>>> 2.223 1.5131.2051.000 >>>>>> >>>>>> Triumph TR6 4 speed dog engagementcall >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Prices and specifications subject to change without notice. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is your chance to get Quaife differentials and gearkits at >>>>>> never-to-be-seen-again prices. 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How many just wasted disk space, filled up quotas on recipients' mailboxes, caused unneeded work by the list archiver,used up bandwidth sending out bits we've already seen several times and served no purpose whatsoever? What, exactly, are the benefits of not editing replies? mjb. From tr3driver at ca.rr.com Mon Nov 23 22:11:51 2009 From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:11:51 -0800 Subject: [Fot] List notes In-Reply-To: <4B0B5DE3.5050204@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <20091124051152124.NPPP2218@cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com> > What, exactly, are the benefits of not editing replies? Or in other words, was this trip really necessary? :^) Randall From Group44TR7 at aol.com Tue Nov 24 11:34:28 2009 From: Group44TR7 at aol.com (Group44TR7 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:34:28 EST Subject: [Fot] Second Request - Please Reconnect Bobby Cee Message-ID: Mark Bobby is still not receiving FOT emails - _Bobbyceeracer at aol.com_ (mailto:Bobbyceeracer at aol.com) I am continuing to receive emails on AOL on a regular basis without any interruptions. Thank you for your efforts. Cary From pcdelux at att.net Tue Nov 24 12:31:49 2009 From: pcdelux at att.net (Bill DeWar) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:31:49 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Transmissions and such Message-ID: <007401ca6d3c$c654ec00$4b524c0c@userbhfzubua17> Listers, For those not aware the TR6 case to look for is the last few model years run of them. They have thicker front flanges and better side ribs. Easiest way to identify is the top cover had an extra steel support to prevent top cover breaking at rear bolts. Said transmission also had improved steel top-hat bush setup. What top-hat are those in the know using for the stock gear-sets these days? Kas? any insight? Bill Dewar NJTA From Group44TR7 at aol.com Tue Nov 24 13:19:24 2009 From: Group44TR7 at aol.com (Group44TR7 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:19:24 EST Subject: [Fot] Fwd: F.O.T Message-ID: Return-path: From: Bobbyceeracer at aol.com Full-name: Bobbyceeracer Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:30:29 EST Subject: Re: F.O.T To: Group44TR7 at aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5380 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Thanks Buddy, I would love to get involved with Triumphs again. Bobby From lang at isis.mit.edu Tue Nov 24 15:59:31 2009 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:59:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] Transmissions and such In-Reply-To: <007401ca6d3c$c654ec00$4b524c0c@userbhfzubua17> References: <007401ca6d3c$c654ec00$4b524c0c@userbhfzubua17> Message-ID: [stuff deleted] > What top-hat are those in the know using for the stock gear-sets these days? I'm trying to use just steel bushings and you MUST make sure that all the end-float settings are perfect. In some cases that means the case is toast because the end float for the lay-shaft is knackered. I suppose you could use shims on the laygears to get the end-float in spec, but that's for the pros... I have no idea how to source a shim that might work on the layshaft. For the mainshaft bushings, I get steel bushings from either John Esposito (www.quantumechanics.com) or Moss (they have a "kit" that replaces the bronze with steel). Either "solution" is not cheap, the bushings alone are $150 and then you usually have to replace "stuff" that's been beaten or broken over time. Alternate gearboxes look better every day. :-) Bob "allIneedisaJericho" Lang --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent 2009 NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From tr3driver at ca.rr.com Tue Nov 24 17:54:15 2009 From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:54:15 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Transmissions and such In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091125005415610.TDOW22957@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> > In some cases that means the > case is toast > because the end float for the lay-shaft is knackered. I probably shouldn't say this ... but have you guys considered using a Stag case & countershaft? The casting is the same as late TR6, but is machined to accept roller thrust bearings instead of plain washers. Randall From mark at bradakis.com Tue Nov 24 17:55:13 2009 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:55:13 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: F.O.T In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B0C8071.4060904@bradakis.com> I hate to sound too much like an old grouch after my last diatribe about editing replies. I've been busy trying to catch up on Team.Net admin mail. There's only about 19,000 left for the 5 - 6 dozen lists I mismanage. Most of those will get filtered out and cleaned up quickly as spam. A large percentage of the ones that will remain basically amount to work I really shouldn't have to do. Each and every message to each and every list, regular or digest, has a link to the web page for the list. On this web page people can remove their old address and subscribe a new one, or set a 'vacation' hold or switch from regular to digest, see what lists are available, whatever. I try to provide the tools to make it as easy as possible for folks to reap the benefits of Team.Net in various ways. I try to be polite and helpful as best I can, but sometimes I do wonder why I do what I do. For those of you who celebrate the occasion, have a nice Thanksgiving. mjb. From mark at bradakis.com Tue Nov 24 18:53:08 2009 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:53:08 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: F.O.T In-Reply-To: <4B0C8071.4060904@bradakis.com> References: <4B0C8071.4060904@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <4B0C8E04.9030007@bradakis.com> Just had a realization - I got a flu shot this morning. I must be extra cranky today because I think I am getting a bit sick from it. Hopefully it will not be an issue for fixing dinner thursday. I'll quit whining now, and return to my prestigious, high-paying position as chief toilet scrubber for Team.Net. mjb. From jmwagner at greenheart.com Tue Nov 24 18:53:50 2009 From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:53:50 -0800 Subject: [Fot] EBAY: old RACING Photo *Helmet Man in TRIUMPH TR2 RACE CAR* Message-ID: <4B0C8E2E.7010501@greenheart.com> There's an anonymous photo of a TR2 on ebay... maybe someone can identify it, etc. --Justin http://i.ebayimg.com/15/!Bf0RrnQBWk~$(KGrHqEH-DsEsKb8vgI)BLCvnmY2hQ~~_3.JPG old RACING Photo *Helmet Man in TRIUMPH TR2 RACE CAR* http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/old-RACING-Photo-Helmet-Man-in-TRIUMPH-TR2-RACE-CAR_W0QQitemZ140362309203QQcmdZViewItemQQptZArt_Photo_Images?hash=item20ae3ede53 From Herald948 at aol.com Tue Nov 24 20:14:31 2009 From: Herald948 at aol.com (Herald948 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:14:31 EST Subject: [Fot] Fwd: F.O.T Message-ID: In a message dated 11/24/2009 8:27:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mark at bradakis.com writes: I try to provide the tools to make it as easy as possible for folks to reap the benefits of Team.Net in various ways. I try to be polite and helpful as best I can, but sometimes I do wonder why I do what I do. For those of you who celebrate the occasion, have a nice Thanksgiving. ==AM== Likewise to you, Mark! Funny thing about e-mail lists and their subscribers.... One might think that librarians and others in related educational fields might have clues about how some of this technology works. WRONG-O, gigabyte breath! I oversee a good three dozen or so Listserv e-mail lists as part of my job at the NYS Library, and it never ceases to amaze me how people on those lists can ignore both generic and customized "welcome" messages sent them, not to mention pretty clear details on how to handle basics of leaving the list or changing subscription options that are included in footers attached to each message. The difference between you and me is mostly in that the politically and financially near-bankrupt State of New York tosses me some money every couple of weeks for putting up with all that. Oh, in fairness, I will say that there are many, many folk who get caught when their library or other employer goes and screws up their e-mail client and/or changes userids without warning and often without a grace period. I'm happy to help them out, and most of them are grateful. Hang in there; even we PITA AOL subscribers (especially we AOL subscribers) truly appreciate all your efforts! --Andy Mace *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Register: _http://www.vtr.org_ (http://www.vtr.org/) Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database: _http://triumph-herald.us_ (http://triumph-herald.us/) From tony at tonydrews.com Tue Nov 24 20:52:59 2009 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:52:59 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: F.O.T In-Reply-To: <4B0C8071.4060904@bradakis.com> References: <4B0C8071.4060904@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <20091125035331.C718F187684@autox.team.net> I set up a little Nascar league and use Google Groups as my e-mail mechanism. I think my top number of folks in my league has been 20. Every single e-mail sent through that list includes a big ol' blurb about where to go to manage your settings and an "unsubscribe" link. I had someone get pissy about my delay in sending out results and leave the league. At the beginning of the next year he was very vocal about "please remove me from the list". I took care of it manually, but he could have done it himself for half of the effort of sending me and the entire list the nastygram. And this is for a closed friend-referral group. I can't imagine handling the lists that you deal with. Cheers, Tony Drews At 06:55 PM 11/24/2009, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > > >I try to provide the tools to make it as easy as possible for folks to >reap the benefits of Team.Net in various ways. I try to be polite >and helpful as best I can, but sometimes I do wonder why I do what >I do. > >For those of you who celebrate the occasion, have a nice Thanksgiving. > >mjb. From jaboruch at netzero.net Tue Nov 24 21:02:16 2009 From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:02:16 GMT Subject: [Fot] TR4 Fiberglass Message-ID: <20091124.230216.8160.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> FOTers, I recently bought a TR4 that has not raced since the late 70's or early 80's. I will eventually get it back on the track with SCCA, but it will take some time. Do any of you have any fiberglass bits that you would be interested in selling? There are probably at least a few vintage cars out there that were SCCA cars with flared glass fenders that were converted back to steel, leaving the glass collecting dust. Joe(B) ____________________________________________________________ Regis University MBA Earn your MBA from Regis University, 100% online. Free info packs! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/c?cp=naTUzpIXLd03YEEXQoA9jwAAJz6U 0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAPHCbj4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAiHkAAAAAA= From billb at bnj.com Tue Nov 24 21:33:28 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:33:28 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: F.O.T In-Reply-To: <20091125035331.C718F187684@autox.team.net> References: <4B0C8071.4060904@bradakis.com> <20091125035331.C718F187684@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <724A9ACC-5DB5-43BE-8222-1D1D34667FFE@bnj.com> You should have told him to get hosed. I had some clown causing problems on my Ke Nalu site, bitching about my lack of attention. This for a site that carries no advertising, that I do for fun. I blocked him from the site, then he started sending me email bitching at me. So I added his email address to my spam filter. So then he set up some gmail addresses and bitched at me. So I subscribed him to about 500 email newsletters. I felt he just had too much time on his hands. On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:52 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > I set up a little Nascar league and use Google Groups as my e-mail mechanism. I think my top number of folks in my league has been 20. Every single e-mail sent through that list includes a big ol' blurb about where to go to manage your settings and an "unsubscribe" link. I had someone get pissy about my delay in sending out results and leave the league. At the beginning of the next year he was very vocal about "please remove me from the list". I took care of it manually, but he could have done it himself for half of the effort of sending me and the entire list the nastygram. And this is for a closed friend-referral group. > > I can't imagine handling the lists that you deal with. > > Cheers, Tony Drews > > At 06:55 PM 11/24/2009, Mark J Bradakis wrote: >> >> >> I try to provide the tools to make it as easy as possible for folks to >> reap the benefits of Team.Net in various ways. I try to be polite >> and helpful as best I can, but sometimes I do wonder why I do what >> I do. >> >> For those of you who celebrate the occasion, have a nice Thanksgiving. >> >> mjb. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com From horizonracing at msn.com Wed Nov 25 12:53:11 2009 From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:53:11 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Message-ID: All, A Local machine shop has a 1300 spitfire Engine block(cleaned and deglazed) crank and pistons for sale..........Make an offer. Has be waiting for the Owner to return for over 10 years. Pacific Auto machine, Renton Wa. 98057. 425 226 0930 I'm only going what was told to me. I only saw the parts sitting on a shelf in a bag!! Tony From bkahler1 at gmail.com Wed Nov 25 15:51:36 2009 From: bkahler1 at gmail.com (Brad Kahler) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:51:36 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tony, I just got off the phone with Gary and in talking with him we determined that the engine is a 1300 large journal. The package includes the block, crank (turned .010 & .010) , pistons, rods, pan, cam and possibly a few other items. Thanks for posting! Brad On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Tony and Annie Garmey wrote: > All, > > A Local machine shop has a 1300 spitfire Engine block(cleaned and deglazed) > crank and pistons for sale..........Make an offer. Has be waiting for the > Owner to return for over 10 years. > > Pacific Auto machine, Renton Wa. 98057. 425 226 0930 > > > > I'm only going what was told to me. I only saw the parts sitting on a shelf in > a bag!! > > > > Tony > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkahler1 at gmail.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as bkahler1 at gmail.com From fasttrs at mindspring.com Wed Nov 25 15:57:03 2009 From: fasttrs at mindspring.com (Mike Munson) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:57:03 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Fot] TR-6 CR Gear sets by Quaife/Lincoln Locker Message-ID: <31197664.1259189823642.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Based on the female/male spend ratio as you quoted, I figure I've at least 10k coming for race car goodies. Hope she sees it that way! Off to the machine shop. >Thanks for the advice. >Jeff D. Good Luck with that, Jeff!! Mike From cak at dimebank.com Thu Nov 26 10:05:05 2009 From: cak at dimebank.com (Chris Kantarjiev) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:05:05 -0800 Subject: [Fot] need GT6+ 3.89 r&p Message-ID: <4B0EB541.7060304@dimebank.com> OK, it's time to get moving on this project again. I got the rear diff apart some weeks back and we found quite a bit of unusual damage on the R&P. Needs to be replaced - and with it, of course, the usual complement of bearings and seals and whatnot. And I guess I'll be taking the Quaife apart to clean, too, what fun. I'm not sure if I'm better off getting just a r&p or a complete but good diff to modify... So ... I have no idea where I might get a proper set or what it might cost. Help? Thanks, chris From cwnfot at gmail.com Fri Nov 27 06:25:06 2009 From: cwnfot at gmail.com (Clark W. Nicholls) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:25:06 -0500 Subject: [Fot] need GT6+ 3.89 r&p In-Reply-To: <4B0EB541.7060304@dimebank.com> References: <4B0EB541.7060304@dimebank.com> Message-ID: <006901ca6f65$09ba8840$1d2f98c0$@com> Is there a difference between a GT6+ 3.89 and a Spitfire 1500 3.89 ? Clark From cak at dimebank.com Fri Nov 27 08:48:27 2009 From: cak at dimebank.com (Chris Kantarjiev) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:48:27 -0800 Subject: [Fot] need GT6+ 3.89 r&p In-Reply-To: <006901ca6f65$09ba8840$1d2f98c0$@com> References: <4B0EB541.7060304@dimebank.com> <006901ca6f65$09ba8840$1d2f98c0$@com> Message-ID: <4B0FF4CB.3010505@dimebank.com> Clark W. Nicholls wrote: > Is there a difference between a GT6+ 3.89 and a Spitfire 1500 3.89 ? > Clark Yes, but the Spit box will fit the GT6 :-) There are some detail changes (spring mounting) and some component changes in the later rear axle, mostly for the better (as I recall, the stub axle shafts are bigger diameter). I'm open to the Spitfire 1500 diff, too, since that's what was in the car (and got chewed up). From 19to1tr6 at comcast.net Mon Nov 30 21:10:07 2009 From: 19to1tr6 at comcast.net (Rob) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:10:07 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Fiberglass/tr6 In-Reply-To: <20091124.230216.8160.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> References: <20091124.230216.8160.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: thank you for stating it so well Joe Does any one have the bits for a 6 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Boruch" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:02 PM Subject: [Fot] TR4 Fiberglass > FOTers, I recently bought a TR4 that has not raced since the late 70's or > early 80's. I will eventually get it back on the track with SCCA, but it > will > take some time. Do any of you have any fiberglass bits that you would be > interested in selling? There are probably at least a few vintage cars out > there that were SCCA cars with flared glass fenders that were converted > back > to steel, leaving the glass collecting dust. Joe(B) > > ____________________________________________________________ > Regis University MBA > Earn your MBA from Regis University, 100% online. Free info packs! > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/c?cp=naTUzpIXLd03YEEXQoA9jwAAJz6U > 0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAPHCbj4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAiHkAAAAAA= > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net From bownes at seiri.com Fri Nov 27 22:06:52 2009 From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:06:52 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Fiberglass/tr6 In-Reply-To: References: <20091124.230216.8160.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: I have four stock 'glass fenders for a tr6. But they are attached to a TR6 that I'm trying to part with at the same time as the fenders. Anyone need a TR6 project? On 11/30/09, Rob <19to1tr6 at comcast.net> wrote: > thank you for stating it so well Joe Does any one have the bits > for a 6 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Boruch" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:02 PM > Subject: [Fot] TR4 Fiberglass > > >> FOTers, I recently bought a TR4 that has not raced since the late 70's or >> early 80's. I will eventually get it back on the track with SCCA, but it >> will >> take some time. Do any of you have any fiberglass bits that you would be >> interested in selling? There are probably at least a few vintage cars out >> there that were SCCA cars with flared glass fenders that were converted >> back >> to steel, leaving the glass collecting dust. Joe(B) >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Regis University MBA >> Earn your MBA from Regis University, 100% online. Free info packs! >> http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/c?cp=naTUzpIXLd03YEEXQoA9jwAAJz6U >> 0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAPHCbj4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAiHkAAAAAA= >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> >> >> You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bownes at web9.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as bownes at web9.com From n197tr4 at cs.com Sat Nov 28 06:47:27 2009 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:47:27 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Fiberglass/tr6 In-Reply-To: References: <20091124.230216.8160.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <8CC3E48750ABED8-2220-2DDA6@webmail-m015.sysops.aol.com> FOT & Joe B I have a full set of flares fenders, but they are steel. Ed Diehl has some fibreglass parts and the molds, but I dont think they are flared. Joe A -----Original Message----- From: Rob <19to1tr6 at comcast.net> To: Joe Boruch ; fot at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, Nov 30, 2009 10:10 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Fiberglass/tr6 thank you for stating it so well Joe Does any one have the bits for a 6 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Boruch" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:02 PM Subject: [Fot] TR4 Fiberglass > FOTers, I recently bought a TR4 that has not raced since the late 70's or > early 80's. I will eventually get it back on the track with SCCA, but it > will > take some time. Do any of you have any fiberglass bits that you would be > interested in selling? There are probably at least a few vintage cars out > there that were SCCA cars with flared glass fenders that were converted > back > to steel, leaving the glass collecting dust. Joe(B) > > ____________________________________________________________ > Regis University MBA > Earn your MBA from Regis University, 100% online. Free info packs! > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/c?cp=naTUzpIXLd03YEEXQoA9jwAAJz6U > 0HcZ7PRpF0fndYeeSkVqAAQAAAAFAAAAAPHCbj4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAiHkAAAAAA= > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as 19to1tr6 at comcast.net You are subscribed as n197tr4 at cs.com http://www.fot-racing.com Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. You are subscribed as n197tr4 at cs.com From mike.mehl at yahoo.com Sun Nov 29 16:15:22 2009 From: mike.mehl at yahoo.com (Mike Mehl) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:15:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] HS6 carburetor question Message-ID: <440082.25337.qm@web46114.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I am looking for some help on my HS6 carbs. According to Kas Kastner's book he suggest that you modify the spring that holds the jet head up in place. Tim Murphy sent me some nice photo's of how he did this but his carbs appear to be a different SU model. Can some one send me photo's of how they 'wired' theirs. Of all the photos I took while at the KAS cup this past summer I don't have any good photos of the carbs. Thanks for the help. Mike From mpendy at dishmail.net Sun Nov 29 16:52:44 2009 From: mpendy at dishmail.net (Mark Pendergrass) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:52:44 -0800 Subject: [Fot] HS6 carburetor question References: <440082.25337.qm@web46114.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <79F28D6A8E594E10822E6023D8470D1E@Pendys> Hey Mike; maybe you have H6 carb's and not HS6 and are you utilizing the chokes or not ? Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Mehl" To: "Triumph Friends of" Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 3:15 PM Subject: [Fot] HS6 carburetor question >I am looking for some help on my HS6 carbs. According to Kas Kastner's >book > he suggest that you modify the spring that holds the jet head up in place. > Tim Murphy sent me some nice photo's of how he did this but his carbs > appear > to be a different SU model. Can some one send me photo's of how they > 'wired' > theirs. Of all the photos I took while at the KAS cup this past summer I > don't have any good photos of the carbs. Thanks for the help. > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mpendy at dishmail.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as mpendy at dishmail.net From s.janzen at comcast.net Sun Nov 29 18:29:41 2009 From: s.janzen at comcast.net (Scott Janzen) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:29:41 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Turkey Bowl and GT6 Message-ID: The GT6 ran like a dream this weekend at Summit Point, well, other than a leaky cork valve cover gasket dumping oil on the headers first session (the bugger migrated out from under the alloy cover), and a misfire that showed up late in the second session. After checking the (tan) plugs, timing and point gap, I thought of TeriAnn's comments and sanded and installed a new Mallory condenser, and ran a ground wire to the distributor. Next outing was flawless and the car ran great the rest of the weekend. Don't know which of the two fixes worked, but I'm keeping both in place. There are other things to do over the winter, but the weekend was a hoot! Other FOT folks in attendance included Rich Rock, Craig Wensley and John Herrara (I apologize if I am missing anyone else that was there). There was one other all-Triumph running, a Spitfire in BRG that matched mine, Rich's TVR with a 2.5 six, and a pretty, small Peerless GT coupe that had a TR4 engine in it! All in all, I'm guessing there were about 80 cars, grouped in under two liter vintage, over two liter vintage, open wheel and sports racer vintage, and a modern group that included a flock of Legends, at least one Stocker, and some other newer machinery. Friday was reportedly grey and damp, but by the time I showed up Friday evening the wind was blowing the damp away and Saturday dawned sunny and dry. Mid 50s Saturday and 60 Sunday, 35-40 at night, perfect cool weather for a car I usually roast in during the summer! Lots of track time in two days with two practice sessions, a 10 lap race, a 15 lap race and a 45 minute enduro, plus the Friday I missed. Summit Point's main course was in pretty rough shape in turn one and the carousel, but it is reportedly being re-paved in March-April and will be ready for the Jefferson 500 in May ( I believe being sponsored by Vintage Racing Group). Hope to see some other East Coast Triumphs there in the spring. BTW, if anyone knows how to build a GT6 trans that does not drip oil on the exhaust, I am all ears. The vent hole is clear, but it just seems to ooze Redline out the gaskets and the front oil seal (which has been replaced twice). From jmwagner at greenheart.com Sun Nov 29 21:37:28 2009 From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:37:28 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Ebay: Vandervell Bearings Message-ID: <4B134C08.3060505@greenheart.com> Friends, There's some various sized Vandervell bearings for TR2-4 on Ebaymotors right now. Correct me if I'm wrong, but these have always been held in high regard. I haven't seen them come up very often, so I thought I'd mention it. --Justin From GRMTim at aol.com Mon Nov 30 06:56:15 2009 From: GRMTim at aol.com (GRMTim at aol.com) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:56:15 EST Subject: [Fot] New Small-Bore race series Message-ID: We organized this with the FOT in mind. Let me know what you think. Tim Suddard Publisher; Classic Motorsports and Grassroots Motorsports magazines www.classicmotorsports.net www.grassrootsmotorsports.com Phone: (386) 673-4148 Fax: (386) 673-6040 2010 Classic MotorsportsB Cup Announcing a new, four event, mini-enduro road race series for 2010. This series runs on tracks from Florida to Ohio, and is designed to lower the cost and put the fun back into small-bore production car racing. The most unique feature of this series, is that the entry fee will be FREE to anyone already entered at that weekendbs regular event. This series has many unique features, as the pre-1965 requirement will focus on the MGs, Triumphs, Alfa and Porsche 356s who usually donbt get the lionb s share of attention at most race weekends. HSR president, Steve Simpson, states bWe are listening to our customers and with rising costs and more and more focus on newer and faster machinery, we wanted to refocus our efforts on the guys that make up the back-bone of classic car racing, the small-bore production racers of the fifties and early sixties.b SVRA president Howard Turner adds bSVRA is pleased to host the Series at two of our fine venues, and we look forward to seeing the MGs, Triumphs, Alfas and Porsche 356s get top billing and the significant additional track time. It should be a big plus for these cars that are the traditional backbone of our sport,b Classic Motorsports publisher, Tim Suddard says, bWe were looking for ways to put more fun back into small-bore production racing. The Mini-enduro format will offer a lot of seat time without adding to the expense of a race weekend. A longer format would get too expensive in regards to consumables like tires and fuel. The mandatory pit stop will really help those racers who want to share rides, which will add to the fun and further lower expenses.b Drivers in the series will be urged to pit together at races to further build camaraderie. The guys at Classic Motorsports, HSR and SVRA will be throwing a free welcome party on Thursday night of each race weekend to make sure the events kick off in a fun and friendlyB atmosphere. From GRMTim at aol.com Mon Nov 30 06:58:08 2009 From: GRMTim at aol.com (GRMTim at aol.com) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:58:08 EST Subject: [Fot] something for nothing Message-ID: Sorry to be a list crasher, but couldn't let this opportunity go by without letting you guys know about it. Morris Mino wagon is a cool story. Tim Suddard Publisher; Classic Motorsports and Grassroots Motorsports magazines www.classicmotorsports.net www.grassrootsmotorsports.com Phone: (386) 673-4148 Fax: (386) 673-6040 GRM Celebrates 25 Years with some of our Favorite Cars- Grassroots Motorsports is celebrating 25 years of low-buck, high-output editorial, and we're creating a treat for you: an online e-pub version of our 25th anniversary print edition. The electronic version of our 25th anniversary edition is being offered free to you, your friends, and even your friends' friends. You can sign up now for immediate access by logging on to grassroootsmotorsports.com/digital. This special issue contains features at the very core of our interests-and yours. The issue begins with a countdown of the 25 Most Important Cars to enthusiasts like us. From the Chevy Camaro to the MINI Cooper, you'll see a collection the great ones that have defined the Grassroots Motorsports experience. You know that the Mazda Miata is on that list as well, so the issue also shines a spotlight on 10 Important Miatas from our history. You won't want to miss the video walkaround of a trio of GRM Miata projects, from mild to wild, available only in the digital format. Grassroots Motorsports Magazine is the home for in-depth technical articles, so this anniversary issue will be filled with a video-enhanced look at the future when you get to go inside the workings of the newest batch of Twin-Clutch Automatic Transmissions. By signing up for the e-pub, you'll also get our most anticipated buyer's guide to date on the Acura Integra Type R. You'll especially want to look at the video supplement to the buyers guide, available only by signing up to receive the electronic version of Grassroots Motorsports. You'll also find a grip of event coverage, including SCCA Solo National Championships as well as a recap of the NASA Nationals. Just for fun, you'll also get an inside look at the 24 Hours of LeMons series. These events will also have bonus material available to you only in the free digital edition of the magazine. Signing up to receive the e-pub will ensure you're among the first to see the assortment of feature cars gathered for this special issue, including a Toyota twin-cam powered Morris Minor and the K-PAX/3R Volvo S60 World Challenge Racer. It's our birthday, but you are getting the present. Sign up today for your free digital issue! Sincerely, Your Friends at Grassroots Motorsports Magazine From info at dieselperformanceparts.com Mon Nov 30 07:32:46 2009 From: info at dieselperformanceparts.com (Diesel Performance Parts Inc. - Info) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:32:46 -0600 Subject: [Fot] HSR/SVRA GRM Mini Enduro Series Message-ID: <55CB8270B7388B478DC7AC2A39A97C5A63C408@isis.dieselperformanceparts.local> Morning membership, Some great news here from Tim Suddard @ GRM magazine: We organized this with the FOT in mind. Let me know what you think. Tim Suddard Publisher; Classic Motorsports and Grassroots Motorsports magazines www.classicmotorsports.net www.grassrootsmotorsports.com Phone: (386) 673-4148 Fax: (386) 673-6040 2010 Classic MotorsportsB Cup Announcing a new, four event, mini-enduro road race series for 2010. This series runs on tracks from Florida to Ohio, and is designed to lower the cost and put the fun back into small-bore production car racing. The most unique feature of this series, is that the entry fee will be FREE to anyone already entered at that weekendbs regular event. This series has many unique features, as the pre-1965 requirement will focus on the MGs, Triumphs, Alfa and Porsche 356s who usually donbt get the lionb s share of attention at most race weekends. HSR president, Steve Simpson, states bWe are listening to our customers and with rising costs and more and more focus on newer and faster machinery, we wanted to refocus our efforts on the guys that make up the back-bone of classic car racing, the small-bore production racers of the fifties and early sixties.b SVRA president Howard Turner adds bSVRA is pleased to host the Series at two of our fine venues, and we look forward to seeing the MGs, Triumphs, Alfas and Porsche 356s get top billing and the significant additional track time. It should be a big plus for these cars that are the traditional backbone of our sport,b Classic Motorsports publisher, Tim Suddard says, bWe were looking for ways to put more fun back into small-bore production racing. The Mini-enduro format will offer a lot of seat time without adding to the expense of a race weekend. A longer format would get too expensive in regards to consumables like tires and fuel. The mandatory pit stop will really help those racers who want to share rides, which will add to the fun and further lower expenses.b Drivers in the series will be urged to pit together at races to further build camaraderie. The guys at Classic Motorsports, HSR and SVRA will be throwing a free welcome party on Thursday night of each race weekend to make sure the events kick off in a fun and friendlyB atmosphere. My opinion: Tim, I think it's GREAT!!! I hope all the FOT membership gets involved. It'll show HSR/SVRA where their true dollars come from and who REALLY supports the sport. Won't be a bunch of us arriving in SEMI's but our checks clear the bank just fine!!!! Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, INC. 411 Allied Drive Nashville, TN 37211 866-455-7788 Phone 615-834-9923 Fax www.dieselperformanceparts.com From list at mackenzie.aero Mon Nov 30 07:58:52 2009 From: list at mackenzie.aero (Robert MacKenzie) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:58:52 -0600 Subject: [Fot] FOT List members in Raleigh, NC? Message-ID: <005a01ca71cd$a1fb0f20$e5f12d60$@aero> Are there any FOT folks in the Raleigh, NC area who could do me a big favor? I may need some help picking up an engine & gearbox, getting them on a pallet and shipping them back to Texas. I am going to be in Raleigh late next week. Please contact me off list at: Robert at mackenzie.aero Thanx Robert MacKenzie Austin Texas '79 1500 (street) '62 Spitfire 4 (race) From ofbracing at nefcom.net Mon Nov 30 10:17:06 2009 From: ofbracing at nefcom.net (ofbracing) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:17:06 -0500 Subject: [Fot] New Small-Bore race series In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It's great that the big organizers are finally getting interested in us. In the meantime, we shouldn't forget the smaller not-for-profit organizers that have been supporting us all along and usually at much lower cost. In the Southeast we're fortunate to have the VDCA, which has always given us lots of track time AND has always included a free Enduro. I'm sure there are similar groups elsewhere that deserve our continued support. This seems like a good time to remind everyone about VDCA's event coming up December 11-13 at Roebling Road. In addition to tons of track time and the free Enduro, they're doing an oyster roast and pig pickin' on Saturday night. On Friday night the Triumph Ghetto will be doing our usual Surf n' Turf dinner extravaganza and all Triumph drivers, crew and hangers-on are invited. Don -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of GRMTim at aol.com Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:56 AM To: FOT at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] New Small-Bore race series We organized this with the FOT in mind. Let me know what you think. Tim Suddard Publisher; Classic Motorsports and Grassroots Motorsports magazines www.classicmotorsports.net www.grassrootsmotorsports.com Phone: (386) 673-4148 Fax: (386) 673-6040 2010 Classic MotorsportsB Cup Announcing a new, four event, mini-enduro road race series for 2010. This series runs on tracks from Florida to Ohio, and is designed to lower the cost and put the fun back into small-bore production car racing. The most unique feature of this series, is that the entry fee will be FREE to anyone already entered at that weekendbs regular event. This series has many unique features, as the pre-1965 requirement will focus on the MGs, Triumphs, Alfa and Porsche 356s who usually donbt get the lionb s share of attention at most race weekends. HSR president, Steve Simpson, states bWe are listening to our customers and with rising costs and more and more focus on newer and faster machinery, we wanted to refocus our efforts on the guys that make up the back-bone of classic car racing, the small-bore production racers of the fifties and early sixties.b SVRA president Howard Turner adds bSVRA is pleased to host the Series at two of our fine venues, and we look forward to seeing the MGs, Triumphs, Alfas and Porsche 356s get top billing and the significant additional track time. It should be a big plus for these cars that are the traditional backbone of our sport,b Classic Motorsports publisher, Tim Suddard says, bWe were looking for ways to put more fun back into small-bore production racing. The Mini-enduro format will offer a lot of seat time without adding to the expense of a race weekend. A longer format would get too expensive in regards to consumables like tires and fuel. The mandatory pit stop will really help those racers who want to share rides, which will add to the fun and further lower expenses.b Drivers in the series will be urged to pit together at races to further build camaraderie. The guys at Classic Motorsports, HSR and SVRA will be throwing a free welcome party on Thursday night of each race weekend to make sure the events kick off in a fun and friendlyB atmosphere. You are subscribed as ofbracing at nefcom.net http://www.fot-racing.com From jmwagner at greenheart.com Mon Nov 30 12:46:36 2009 From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:46:36 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Some racing parts for sale on Craigslist Message-ID: <4B14211C.7000802@greenheart.com> I ran into these on Craigslist, I thought it might be of interest to someone here.... (I don't know the seller.) --Justin Triumph TR-2 through TR-4 Big Bore 87MM. Piston Set and Head Gasket. These are Hepolite Power Max Piston Set (which are better than the REPCO Brand) ... sacramento.craigslist.org/pts/1487293919.html Triumph TR-2 3 4 Iskenderian B- Racing Cam and new bearings $200.00 obo. My number is (916)308-4222. Location: Fair Oaks; it's NOT ok to contact this poster ... sacramento.craigslist.org/pts/1487362811.html From dos_gusanos at msn.com Mon Nov 30 14:02:02 2009 From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (dos_gusanos at msn.com) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:02:02 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Parts needed for projects............ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you for the many replies to my email. I was able to come up with all the parts I needed off the list. .............................Cheers Henry Morrison > > Hello Gang, My son has laid down the challenge that i can't get my TR4 > running by June. Rather than go through the pain and humiliation of paying > him 50 clams, I am willing to pay nearly any amount for the following parts > that are missing from the project. From trmarty at hotmail.com Mon Nov 30 18:23:22 2009 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:23:22 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Panasport question Message-ID: I am looking to replace one of my FS series Panasports I bent last year. Panasport tells me FS are no longer made, they built new tooling and are now making FZ series wheel. Suposidly they are the same or close enough that I will not see any difference next to my other 3 wheels. I do not see the FZ's on the Panasport web site. Anybody have FZ's to know if they do indeed look the same? Marty _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ From vintage.racer at comcast.net Mon Nov 30 18:30:35 2009 From: vintage.racer at comcast.net (Gary Horstkorta) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:30:35 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Plastic Window Remedy Message-ID: <000001ca7225$e20a1b30$a61e5190$@racer@comcast.net> Hello: I thought I'd pass along a quick remedy to the dreaded "cloudy" plastic windows that affect soft tops over time. The windows in my TR6 were on their way to being opaque which made driving with the top up a safety hazard. I first tried using Mequiar's PlastX, a plastic cleaner & polish, but with no improvement. Next, I tried a bottle of plastic polish I found in the back of my garage cabinet called Novus Plastic Polish No. 2. I had purchased this product a few years ago from the local TAP Plastics store to clean the plastic windshield on my racecar. Using a microfiber hand applicator I applied the polish to both the inside and outside of my tops plastic windows then wiped it with a terry cloth towel. After about thirty minutes of work, the windows are virtually as good as new...I was amazed at the results. I checked the Internet and Novus has a website at www.novuspolish.com. FYI, I have no financial interest in this product, just want to pass along the info for a product that worked for me. Gary 69 TR6 62 TR4 From jmwagner at tstonramp.com Mon Nov 30 19:24:06 2009 From: jmwagner at tstonramp.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:24:06 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Plastic Window Remedy In-Reply-To: <000001ca7225$e20a1b30$a61e5190$@racer@comcast.net> References: <000001ca7225$e20a1b30$a61e5190$@racer@comcast.net> Message-ID: Novus #2 is good stuff. Focus on the inside first. It is my experience that most of the clouding issues are, surprisingly, on the inside. --Justin On Nov 30, 2009, at 5:30 PM, "Gary Horstkorta" wrote: > Hello: > > > > I thought I'd pass along a quick remedy to the dreaded "cloudy" > plastic > windows that affect soft tops over time. The windows in my TR6 were > on > their way to being opaque which made driving with the top up a safety > hazard. I first tried using Mequiar's PlastX, a plastic cleaner & > polish, > but with no improvement. Next, I tried a bottle of plastic polish I > found > in the back of my garage cabinet called Novus Plastic Polish No. 2. > I had > purchased this product a few years ago from the local TAP Plastics > store to > clean the plastic windshield on my racecar. > > > > Using a microfiber hand applicator I applied the polish to both the > inside > and outside of my tops plastic windows then wiped it with a terry > cloth > towel. After about thirty minutes of work, the windows are > virtually as > good as new...I was amazed at the results. I checked the Internet > and Novus > has a website at www.novuspolish.com. FYI, I have no financial > interest in > this product, just want to pass along the info for a product that > worked for > me. > > > > Gary > > > > 69 TR6 > > 62 TR4 > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jmwagner at greenheart.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as jmwagner at greenheart.com From billb at bnj.com Mon Nov 30 20:18:58 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:18:58 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Plastic Window Remedy In-Reply-To: References: <000001ca7225$e20a1b30$a61e5190$@racer@comcast.net> Message-ID: The inside clouding is usually aromatics. What the car biz calls Vinyl fog, but really it's all the polymers floating around inside your car looking for a place to stick to. They really stick everywhere but they show up on windows. On Nov 30, 2009, at 6:24 PM, Justin Wagner wrote: > Novus #2 is good stuff. Focus on the inside first. It is my experience that most of the clouding issues are, surprisingly, on the inside. --Justin > > > > On Nov 30, 2009, at 5:30 PM, "Gary Horstkorta" wrote: > >> Hello: >> >> >> >> I thought I'd pass along a quick remedy to the dreaded "cloudy" plastic >> windows that affect soft tops over time. The windows in my TR6 were on >> their way to being opaque which made driving with the top up a safety >> hazard. I first tried using Mequiar's PlastX, a plastic cleaner & polish, >> but with no improvement. Next, I tried a bottle of plastic polish I found >> in the back of my garage cabinet called Novus Plastic Polish No. 2. I had >> purchased this product a few years ago from the local TAP Plastics store to >> clean the plastic windshield on my racecar. >> >> >> >> Using a microfiber hand applicator I applied the polish to both the inside >> and outside of my tops plastic windows then wiped it with a terry cloth >> towel. After about thirty minutes of work, the windows are virtually as >> good as new...I was amazed at the results. I checked the Internet and Novus >> has a website at www.novuspolish.com. FYI, I have no financial interest in >> this product, just want to pass along the info for a product that worked for >> me. >> >> >> >> Gary >> >> >> >> 69 TR6 >> >> 62 TR4 >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as jmwagner at greenheart.com >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. >> >> >> You are subscribed as jmwagner at greenheart.com > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com From billb at bnj.com Mon Nov 30 20:22:08 2009 From: billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:22:08 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Plastic Window Remedy In-Reply-To: <000001ca7225$e20a1b30$a61e5190$@racer@comcast.net> References: <000001ca7225$e20a1b30$a61e5190$@racer@comcast.net> Message-ID: <12DA79FF-4702-4ADD-BB9D-7FCCFEDE3B87@bnj.com> No question, best plastic polish I've ever tried. comes in two forms that i know of #1 and #2. #2 has some fine grit to it and removes scratches. Also apparently fills them somehow. Probably a soluble polymer like the old eagle One plastic polish had (it was really good too, but Valveoline changed the formula and now it sux) #1 is more of a cleaner/polish and fills scratches but doesn't buff. Both are magic and great for lexan shields. My helmet visors last 10X longer because of these products. On Nov 30, 2009, at 5:30 PM, Gary Horstkorta wrote: > Hello: > > > > I thought I'd pass along a quick remedy to the dreaded "cloudy" plastic > windows that affect soft tops over time. The windows in my TR6 were on > their way to being opaque which made driving with the top up a safety > hazard. I first tried using Mequiar's PlastX, a plastic cleaner & polish, > but with no improvement. Next, I tried a bottle of plastic polish I found > in the back of my garage cabinet called Novus Plastic Polish No. 2. I had > purchased this product a few years ago from the local TAP Plastics store to > clean the plastic windshield on my racecar. > > > > Using a microfiber hand applicator I applied the polish to both the inside > and outside of my tops plastic windows then wiped it with a terry cloth > towel. After about thirty minutes of work, the windows are virtually as > good as new...I was amazed at the results. I checked the Internet and Novus > has a website at www.novuspolish.com. FYI, I have no financial interest in > this product, just want to pass along the info for a product that worked for > me. > > > > Gary > > > > 69 TR6 > > 62 TR4 > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > Brought to you by Team.Net consulting - Unix software specialist. > > > You are subscribed as billb at bnj.com