[Fot] Spa race

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Fri Sep 12 06:13:51 MDT 2008


McLaren reportedly has the data to prove that Lewis DID lift, and I 
doubt that they would present the appeal without being able to prove 
this fact.
The other point is that why did the stewards confirm, not once, but 
twice, that it was a good move, and then penalize him after the race 
ended?
In any event, it sure will be interesting to see what happens...
Glen

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From: MadMarx <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
To: 'Friends of Triumph' <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 5:54 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] OT-  F1 at Spa online petition

They way I saw it:

After short cutting a corner you have to actively let the other
pass.

Hamilton was ON throttle all the time and Raikonen had to active
overtake him which took time and way to La Source.

>From my point of view the punishment was okay.

If Hamilton  wouldn’t have shortcut and stayed behind
Raikonen then the Ferrari would never had give up lead to the next 
corner.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 





Von:
fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im 
Auftrag
von Bill Babcock

Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. September 2008 18:19

An: David W. Riddle

Cc: fot at autox.team.net

Betreff: Re: [Fot] OT- F1 at Spa online petition





 

I wouldn't be too happy about having FIA stewards on my
side, unless I was the recipient ofA
0their fines. There just isn't
enough differential speed between these cars, especially in that corner,
 for that argument to hold water. My hero Kimi
squeezed Hamilton off the corner--very clear in the video. That's OK,
nice tactical move. Hamilton lifts, Kimi goes by, then Hamilton crosses 
behind
him (no inertia remaining there) and passes on the other side. 



 





There isn't a racing organization in existence that would
consistently call that an illegal pass--especially the FIA. It's one of 
those
decisions where the stewards insert their authority into the results.
Despicable. 





 





Not that I'm passionate about F1 or anything...





 





On Sep 11, 2008, at 9:07 AM, David W. Riddle wrote:











I watched the race too.  How does someone have
"inertia" to overtake

a faster vehicle doesn't that defy the laws of physics?



Approaching La Source Kimi had more speed and better position. The

issue is not one of inertia but rather the argument that if Lewis had

not shortcut the chicane would he have been that close to Kimi for

the run to La Source to try and outbrake him.



Try watching the videos then you won't have to rely on your faulty :) 
memory.



You may agree with the stewards but three20time world champs Lauda and

Stewart don't.  I bet the FIA overturns the stewards.



At 08:51 AM 9/11/2008, you wrote:





I didn't ignore it, I didn't even watch it.  I did
however watch the race



and recall quite clearly that Hamilton lifted only enough to
let Kimi creep





back in front of him without giving up the inertia that got
him in front in





the first place.  It was that inertia that allowed him
to immediately regain





the lead and that in my opinion was why the move was
illegal.  Clearly the





Stewards agree with my assessment.





 





Joe





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