[Fot] OT- F1 at Spa online petition

Thu Sep 11 13:02:41 MDT 2008

On the whole, when there are so many occasions that drivers can get off
course and gain advantage, it changes the entire dynamics.  Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Joe Curry
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:09 AM
To: 'Bill Babcock'
Cc: fot at autox.Team.Net; fubog1 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Fot] OT- F1 at Spa online petition

I think that the kerbs (curbs) should be made more penal in those areas
because they are supposed to be there to keep the cars within the
confines of the track.  If they raised the level of the kerbs, people
would not be so aggressive in trying to pass knowing that if they don't
pull it off, they will lose their suspension.

Joe

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From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Bill Babcock
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:58 AM
To: Bill Babcock
Cc: fot at autox.Team.Net; fubog1 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Fot] OT- F1 at Spa online petition

Incidentally, I don't think Kimi was wrong to shove Hamilton off the
track in the chicane either. In a competition at that level you are not
owed racing room, you have to take it. If Alonso had been in Kimi's
shoes Hamilton would have lost his right front wheel.  

On Sep 11, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Bill Babcock wrote:

Great race, torturous ending. I also consider Hamilton's moves to be
perfectly proper.

I AM a Kimi fan, he's a great driver, I was cheering him on while he
passed Hamilton at first and then pulled out a lead,  and I was in agony
when he first lost the lead and then hit the wall. But Hamilton's pass
was squeaky clean. I can't see how the FIA could even countenance a
penalty.  It was spectacular driving, well within the cut and thrust of
competition and in full compliance with the rules of surrendering a gain
made off track. I believe the FIA has added an element of
over-regulation and fundamental unfairness to the entire F1 scene. I
don't care if Max Mosely dresses up like Eva Braun and screws goats, but
his leadership of the FIA has damaged the sport by moving victory from
the driver's seat to the steward's fat ass. For that I'd support giving
him the boot. 

On Sep 11, 2008, at 8:13 AM, fubog1 at aol.com wrote:

Well certainly there are those who hold that opinion, not least of all 
the FIA... but... the facts remain that he DID give up the position to 
Kimi, I don't think there is a specified distance for the lead, and 
this was confirmed with both the team & race officials at the time.
I watched the race, and the replay of the last 3 laps at least a dozen 
times, and I can't see how he put Kimi out. Also consider the dry tires 
& wet track conditions.
Personaly I thought that it was a fine example of driving since he was 
well alongside Kimi when he went off; the alternative being that he 
would surely have taken both of them out of the race, had he not gone 
off course.
I also understand that there are some who just don't favor 
Hamilton/McClaren, evidenced by some of the politics and "soap opera" 
issues of late...
I respect your opinion
Thank you!
Glen

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Curry <spitlist at cox.net>
To: fubog1 at aol.com; fot at autox.Team.Net
Sent: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:47 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] OT-  F1 at Spa online petition

I will NOT sign that petition.  The way I saw the situation, while 
Hamilton
did back off a bit and allow Kimi to get back in front, he did not back 
off
enough to give up his inertia and maintained it long enough to 
immediately
get back in the lead.

In my humble opinion, the penalty is just.  His Rookie actions caused 
Kimi
to crash out and that does nothing to erase that outcome.

I would have black flagged Hamilton and not even allowed him to claim 
3rd
place.  That would have been justice in my opinion.

Joe C.

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of fubog1 at aol.com
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 4:42 AM
To: fot at autox.Team.Net
Subject: [Fot] OT- F1 at Spa online petition

I realize that a lot of you were busy last Sunday, and probably didn't
catch the Spa race, and on-line petitions have questionable value, but
this is one that may be worthy...
Last night there were approx 15,000, this morning nearly 50,000. There
are a lot of pissed off F1 fans!

http://www.petitiononline.com/belgp08/petition.html

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