[Fot] sway bars
Stutzman
stutzmans at comcast.net
Wed Nov 5 17:00:23 MST 2008
Tony,
To get rid of axle tramp without track rods, try Carroll Smith's method -
TUNE TO WIN page 157.
Turn the front half of the leaf springs into track rods by tightly clamping
them together. I did and it works.
Bruce
----- Original Message -----
From: "TR4Tony" <tr4.tony at virgin.net>
To: "Bill Babcock" <Billb at bnj.com>; "Kas Kastner" <kaskas at cox.net>
Cc: <tr3driver at ca.rr.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>; <fubog1 at aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 3:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] sway bars
> Hi all ..... just a little more experience on this, echoing what Kas has
> said on testing and getting it right.
>
> Ive just fitted some deeper springs to give some extra ride height, but
> the side effect is additional stiffness which is making the car very
> bouncy at the rear .... and very hard to control on thr rough, better on
> smooth tarmac. Even my twin valve adjustable DAS9 Armstrong shocks dont
> seem able to cope ...... which may be a function of the piston size. Maybe
> its time to try the MGB type DAS 10's ? Im also running around with 100kg
> of sand in the boot to try to get the springs to settle down a little, and
> coating the leaves with PTFE to get them to move better.
>
> If it works out ill pass on the knowledge and the settings on Beasty ....
> currently if my softer rear springs didnt have a habit of winding up and
> bending / twisting on full throttle id stick with them, but my failure
> rate is way too high to live with at the moment.
>
> Best regards
>
> Tony
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Babcock" <Billb at bnj.com>
> To: "Kas Kastner" <kaskas at cox.net>
> Cc: <tr3driver at ca.rr.com>; <fot at autox.team.net>; <fubog1 at aol.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 11:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Fot] sway bars
>
>
>>I know, Kas, you've seen how soft Peyote's rear suspension is. When I was
>>setting the car up I found the softer the rear end was the better the car
>>stuck. I think part of that is Armstrong shocks provide so little
>>damping control a soft spring is necessary. I tried stiffer rear springs
>>but it made the car almost uncontrollable. The front end would understeer
>>while the back end stepped out as if it was oversteering. I went as soft
>>as I dared with the rear spring, you can hit the stops by standing in the
>>seat and bouncing. Works great.
>> On Nov 4, 2008, at 6:57 AM, Kas Kastner wrote:
>>
>>> Stiffening the rear suspension on a beam axle car is a delicate
>>> situation as you have no provision for negative camber (well, yes you
>>> can, but tapering axle splines, bending the housing and all that is a
>>> chore) and thus getting bite on the rear suspension is generally
>>> making it softer not harder which a rear bar will do. There are a
>>> couple of fellows that have done this rear bar mod and been very
>>> successful, but it does take a bunch of testing to get it right.
>>> Dearching the rear springs is a start, then having the rear bar
>>> adjustable can give a few more options in handling for various courses.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <fubog1 at aol.com>
>>> To: <BillDentin at aol.com>; <lang at isis.mit.edu>; <tr3driver at ca.rr.com>
>>> Cc: <fot at autox.team.net>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:38 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Fot] sway bars
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