From BillDentin at aol.com Mon Dec 1 10:03:10 2008 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:03:10 EST Subject: [Fot] Side Glances (JAN 2009) Message-ID: Amici... I am sure we have more than a few Peter Egan fans on the FOT List. Peter was the Honorary Grand Marshall and Featured Banquet Speaker at the Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival at ROAD AMERICA a couple of months back. Austin Healey Sprite was the featured marque, and Mr. Egan has owned and raced more than his fair share. Team Thicko Flounder and premier Sprite owner Wm. Severin Thompson provided a Sprite named WALTER for Peter and wife Barb to use all week end. It was a really special car (UN-restored original racer from the Hey Day) still sporting tech stickers for the 50s and 60s. Peter's article embraces the car's innocence, purity, and the ton of memories it stirs in his heart. I like everything Peter Egan writes. At the end of the article he says, " Maybe in our constant club-racer quest to make our cars faster, safer, and 'more reliable' we pushed for changes that simply accelerated the rate of entropy. Every class of production racing does this, of course, until it finally brings on its own demise. Or metamorphoses into some generic, tube-framed parody of its form self, as "stock cars" have done." And, of course, I loved the classic Egan ending that reads, "So it was fun to drive WALTER just for the pure innocence of the thing; my first drive in a steroid free competition sports car. We were a little slower than the other vintage race cars, but we drove all weekend on the same head gasket. Something I've never tried before." Bill Dentinger ************** Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity& ncid=emlcntaolcom00000002) From Billb at bnj.com Mon Dec 1 11:08:20 2008 From: Billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 08:08:20 -1000 Subject: [Fot] Side Glances (JAN 2009) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1EA6E18F-47EF-405D-9F0D-6EEF1622C203@bnj.com> I too am a Peter Egan fan. Hard to understand the use of Entropy in this case, but I'm probably being too literal since I'm fighting the IQ-sapping nature of Maui by reading books on intercellular information exchange. Lots of entropy tossed around to balance those equations, and it throws me for a loop. Slow going and it makes me testy. I do think I'm losing my marbles. I spent the non-surfing parts of the last few days building a trailer to drag a 12 foot stand up paddle surfboard behind my motorcycle ( http://www.kenalu.com/). You might ask why, and the answer is "I have no idea". What I really need here is Susan's flame job Isetta with a big surfboard rack. The board would be much, much bigger than the car. Walter sounds like a real treasure. What issue is the article in? I'd like to read it. On Dec 1, 2008, at 7:03 AM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote: > Amici... > > I am sure we have more than a few Peter Egan fans on the FOT List. > Peter was > the Honorary Grand Marshall and Featured Banquet Speaker at the > Elkhart Lake > Vintage Festival at ROAD AMERICA a couple of months back. Austin > Healey > Sprite was the featured marque, and Mr. Egan has owned and raced > more than his fair > share. Team Thicko Flounder and premier Sprite owner Wm. Severin > Thompson > provided a Sprite named WALTER for Peter and wife Barb to use all > week end. It > was a really special car (UN-restored original racer from the Hey > Day) still > sporting tech stickers for the 50s and 60s. Peter's article > embraces the car's > innocence, purity, and the ton of memories it stirs in his heart. > > I like everything Peter Egan writes. At the end of the article he > says, " > Maybe in our constant club-racer quest to make our cars faster, > safer, and 'more > reliable' we pushed for changes that simply accelerated the rate of > entropy. > Every class of production racing does this, of course, until it > finally brings > on its own demise. Or metamorphoses into some generic, tube-framed > parody of > its form self, as "stock cars" have done." And, of course, I loved > the > classic Egan ending that reads, "So it was fun to drive WALTER just > for the pure > innocence of the thing; my first drive in a steroid free competition > sports > car. We were a little slower than the other vintage race cars, but > we drove all > weekend on the same head gasket. Something I've never tried before." > > Bill Dentinger From Billb at bnj.com Mon Dec 1 11:49:41 2008 From: Billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 08:49:41 -1000 Subject: [Fot] Side Glances (JAN 2009) In-Reply-To: <8CB21FA34E99EE6-584-31A@WEBMAIL-DY38.sysops.aol.com> References: <1EA6E18F-47EF-405D-9F0D-6EEF1622C203@bnj.com> <8CB21FA34E99EE6-584-31A@WEBMAIL-DY38.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Duh. FWIW, in thermodynamics, entropy is a measure of the randomness of a system, it's sort of the opposite of order. I use it as the reason why my garage is always messy--it's just entropy. Doesn't seem to work that well with Diane, but I think the theory has a certain elegance. In information theory it's kind of the opposite of order as well, though it's more like the amount of information that can't be accounted for because of randomness. As always, the textual definitions are vague while the equations are not. Given those definitions i really didn't get Peter's use of the term, except perhaps that fiddling with these cars diminishes the nature of what they originally were. Seems like we are mostly working against entropy, preventing the cars from turning into random piles of iron oxide. On Dec 1, 2008, at 8:31 AM, billdentin at aol.com wrote: > Walter sounds like a real treasure. What issue is the article in? > I'd like to read it. > > Bill... > > Hint...it's in the subject line of the email. > > I think you'll enjoy it. > > Incidentally...I had no idea what entropy meant...but could guess. > > Bill > > > Tis the season to save your money! Get the new AOL Holiday Toolbar > for money saving offers and gift ideas. Bill Babcock Babcock & Jenkins Billb at bnj.com 503.936.7660 www.bnj.com Editor Ke Nalu e-Magazine Paddlesurfing's Web Journal Bill at kenalu.com www.kenalu.com blog: www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog From walt at hot-tr6.com Tue Dec 2 19:57:26 2008 From: walt at hot-tr6.com (Walter Hollowell) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:57:26 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil pump Message-ID: <20081203025738.D9F6E187922@autox.team.net> Sorry to retrace old topics but I am up against a snag. I am building up a racing TR6 engine using an early block with a late model crank. The block is all decked, line bored etc. An aluminum late model oil pump housing interferes with the block inner wall. It appears that there is enough material to grind away the late model aluminum oil pump housing to allow it to fit but I am asking for advice as to how best to approach this issue. Any recommendations are appreciated. Thanks Walt Hollowell Abq., NM _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter We are a community of 5.7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 23827 of my spam emails to date. The Professional version does not have this message From gkbyrne at optushome.com.au Wed Dec 3 04:14:16 2008 From: gkbyrne at optushome.com.au (Geoff Byrne) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 22:14:16 +1100 Subject: [Fot] TR3 Crank Message-ID: Friends Does any have a used billet crank with scorred or damaged crank pins . One of our guys who races a TR3 has broken his crank but uses custom made rods with undersize big ends and needs another crank Geoff Byrne TR6 Racer Down Under From pvucinic at netspace.net.au Thu Dec 4 01:45:46 2008 From: pvucinic at netspace.net.au (Peter Vucinic) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:45:46 +1100 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Rocker Shaft Message-ID: Anyone on the list have a contact for good quality hardened rocker shafts for TR4 engine? Thanks. Kind Regards Peter Vucinic TR-4 Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From pvucinic at netspace.net.au Thu Dec 4 01:49:57 2008 From: pvucinic at netspace.net.au (Peter Vucinic) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:49:57 +1100 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Overdrive Badge Message-ID: Has anyone on the list seen early TR4's (1962) having a chrome badge, fitted to the left hand side of the trunk lid, saying Overdrive? Thanks Kind Regards Peter Vucinic TR-4 WORKS Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From malaboge at aol.com Thu Dec 4 10:19:40 2008 From: malaboge at aol.com (malaboge at aol.com) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:19:40 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Rocker Shaft In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CB244BA0039BE9-DA8-909@mblk-d48.sysops.aol.com> Peter- OK, it's personal opinion time here ... The TR4's don't usually have the same wear issue that our "longer" brothers do (6 cylinder cars), not to say that they do not wear out as the most certainly do, just not as quickly.? The little bronze (?) bushes in the rockers are much more labor intensive to replace than the shaft.? Especially in a race car, I would rather "get the shaft" than replace bushes, so I only use the softer shaft. Down off the soapbox now. Been gettin the shaft for years... ?????????????????????? Nick in Nor Cal -----Original Message----- From: Peter Vucinic To: FOT Sent: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:45 am Subject: [Fot] TR4 Rocker Shaft Anyone on the list have a contact for good quality hardened rocker shafts for TR4 engine? Thanks. Kind Regards Peter Vucinic TR-4 Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From cak at dimebank.com Thu Dec 4 12:11:24 2008 From: cak at dimebank.com (Chris Kantarjiev) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:11:24 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Rocker Shaft In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49382B5C.4050903@dimebank.com> You want to talk to Rocker Arm Specialists. They'll set you up with a nicely refurbished assembly for less than you can buy the parts. Contact info is in the Monster List, www.dimebank.com/monster From goodparts at verizon.net Thu Dec 4 12:15:46 2008 From: goodparts at verizon.net (Richard Good) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:15:46 -0500 Subject: [Fot] car transport Message-ID: <14971115BD1A4A6092BB47E77A8BB7EB@AdminPC> I have an empty 16x7 enclosed trailer going from Miami area to Reading, PA (close to Philadelphia) at the end of the year. Great for an LBC if there are any in need of a ride. Richard Good From GRMTim at aol.com Fri Dec 5 19:42:31 2008 From: GRMTim at aol.com (GRMTim at aol.com) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:42:31 EST Subject: [Fot] Group 44 GT6 update and tech question Message-ID: We have the four corners together on the chassis and are about to lower the painted body on to the chassis. We have the graphics done and are showing the nearly finished car as a roller at the PRI show in Orlando next week. I have looked in my manuals and on the internet, but can't find a definitive answer as to what order the rubber and aluminum spacers go between the body and the frame on a 1969 GT6+. Can anyone help me with this quickly, as I need to mate the two together this weekend. Thanks. Updates are on our site nearly every week with pics, for those that are interested. Tim Suddard Publisher; Classic Motorsports and Grassroots Motorsports magazines www.classicmotorsports.net www.grassrootsmotorsports.com Phone: (386) 673-4148 Fax: (386) 673-6040 ************** Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp& icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) From markconsultation at twcny.rr.com Sat Dec 6 13:32:19 2008 From: markconsultation at twcny.rr.com (Mark Eginton) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:32:19 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Parts needed Message-ID: <001b01c957e1$bccab870$6401a8c0@HP> Greetings all, For a winter project I am building a street engine. Couple of parts in my stash turned out to be junk and I am trying to keep this project under the radar of the war department. Looking for: Used 86mm piston 1, possibly two - look at the T on the side - I am looking for pistons with enlarged drilled holes (stock) at each upper end of the T as opposed to a slot with radiused ends. Sleeves are already bored, THEN I found the crack... Good deal on a street performance cam - my D cam has a few pinholes (rust that got under the wax) sigh. I am running lightened rods and flywheel with 9.5 to 10 to 1 compression. Thanks and happy holidaze - it was fun meeting many of you at Watkins this year... Best, Mark From WEmery7451 at aol.com Sat Dec 6 13:53:05 2008 From: WEmery7451 at aol.com (WEmery7451 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:53:05 EST Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit Message-ID: Dear FOT, Back in the mid-60s, Bix Durbin flipped his TR-3 end over end, and decided to hang up his racing efforts. I bought his limited slip unit, and raced with it for a few years until I stripped the teeth off of the pinion gear. I then went to the welded up differentials. I recently gave this unit to Dan Styduhar, who has been helping me work on my car for the last several years. Dan has also headed up the SAE Baja racing program for many years on the Pittsburgh branch campus of Penn State. He wants to install this unit in his TR-3 for autocrosses, hill climbs, and possible vintage racing; and would like to know who manufactured this unit. I realize that I can't send an attachment of pictures to the list. Are there FOTers who would be willing to look at the pictures and try to identify the manufacturer of this unit? I could send the photos to them individually. ************** Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom4 0vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) From kaskas at cox.net Sat Dec 6 14:15:21 2008 From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 13:15:21 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You can almost bet 100% that the unit is a Detroit Locker. Not much if anything was available in those days on this side of the ocean other than the above unit. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 12:53 PM Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit > Dear FOT, > > Back in the mid-60s, Bix Durbin flipped his TR-3 end over end, and decided > to > hang up his racing efforts. I bought his limited slip unit, and raced > with > it for a few years until I stripped the teeth off of the pinion gear. I > then > went to the welded up differentials. > > I recently gave this unit to Dan Styduhar, who has been helping me work on > my > car for the last several years. Dan has also headed up the SAE Baja > racing > program for many years on the Pittsburgh branch campus of Penn State. He > wants > to install this unit in his TR-3 for autocrosses, hill climbs, and > possible > vintage racing; and would like to know who manufactured this unit. > > I realize that I can't send an attachment of pictures to the list. Are > there > FOTers who would be willing to look at the pictures and try to identify > the > manufacturer of this unit? I could send the photos to them individually. > > ************** > Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite > sites in one place. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom4 > 0vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Sat Dec 6 14:36:57 2008 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 16:36:57 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit References: Message-ID: <747F1586CE4C4D5B864D883C2A9C4834@userb38463fba5> Bill, I had a Detroit Locker installed in a street TR4A and I can say it was a huge mistake. Track is one thing, street is another thing all together. Maybe it would behave differently in a solid axle car but in my case when I'd get on the gas I could jump an entire lane of trafic without moving the wheel. Same when I got off the gas. Maybe other things were contributing as well, I don't know but if he wants to drive his TR3 on the highway I'd tell him to think twice before doing so or at the least be ready for some wild rides. JVV ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 3:53 PM Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit > Dear FOT, > > Back in the mid-60s, Bix Durbin flipped his TR-3 end over end, and decided > to > hang up his racing efforts. I bought his limited slip unit, and raced > with > it for a few years until I stripped the teeth off of the pinion gear. I > then > went to the welded up differentials. > > I recently gave this unit to Dan Styduhar, who has been helping me work on > my > car for the last several years. Dan has also headed up the SAE Baja > racing > program for many years on the Pittsburgh branch campus of Penn State. He > wants > to install this unit in his TR-3 for autocrosses, hill climbs, and > possible > vintage racing; and would like to know who manufactured this unit. > > I realize that I can't send an attachment of pictures to the list. Are > there > FOTers who would be willing to look at the pictures and try to identify > the > manufacturer of this unit? I could send the photos to them individually. From kaskas at cox.net Sat Dec 6 14:52:38 2008 From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 13:52:38 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit In-Reply-To: <747F1586CE4C4D5B864D883C2A9C4834@userb38463fba5> References: <747F1586CE4C4D5B864D883C2A9C4834@userb38463fba5> Message-ID: I'll agree there. the locker does not fit street use or wet weather very much due to the locking and unlocking when the wheels slip in the wet surface, but on the track, tough parts and great performance. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Van Vlack" To: ; Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit > Bill, I had a Detroit Locker installed in a street TR4A and I can say it > was a huge mistake. Track is one thing, street is another thing all > together. Maybe it would behave differently in a solid axle car but in my > case when I'd get on the gas I could jump an entire lane of trafic without > moving the wheel. Same when I got off the gas. Maybe other things were > contributing as well, I don't know but if he wants to drive his TR3 on the > highway I'd tell him to think twice before doing so or at the least be > ready for some wild rides. > > JVV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 3:53 PM > Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit > > >> Dear FOT, >> >> Back in the mid-60s, Bix Durbin flipped his TR-3 end over end, and >> decided to >> hang up his racing efforts. I bought his limited slip unit, and raced >> with >> it for a few years until I stripped the teeth off of the pinion gear. I >> then >> went to the welded up differentials. >> >> I recently gave this unit to Dan Styduhar, who has been helping me work >> on my >> car for the last several years. Dan has also headed up the SAE Baja >> racing >> program for many years on the Pittsburgh branch campus of Penn State. He >> wants >> to install this unit in his TR-3 for autocrosses, hill climbs, and >> possible >> vintage racing; and would like to know who manufactured this unit. >> >> I realize that I can't send an attachment of pictures to the list. Are >> there >> FOTers who would be willing to look at the pictures and try to identify >> the >> manufacturer of this unit? I could send the photos to them individually. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Sat Dec 6 17:15:19 2008 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 19:15:19 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit References: <747F1586CE4C4D5B864D883C2A9C4834@userb38463fba5> Message-ID: I wrote to Kas shortly after this experirnce since the Competion Manual suggested this as something to do even for a hot street car. His response was perfect...........something like "the marketing guys got their hands on the manual and had some editorial input". This was one of those cases where the marketing guys went beyond their knowledge base for sure. Like that's never happened before! JVV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kas Kastner" To: "Jerry Van Vlack" ; ; Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit > I'll agree there. the locker does not fit street use or wet weather very > much due to the locking and unlocking when the wheels slip in the wet > surface, but on the track, tough parts and great performance. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry Van Vlack" > To: ; > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 1:36 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit > > >> Bill, I had a Detroit Locker installed in a street TR4A and I can say it >> was a huge mistake. Track is one thing, street is another thing all >> together. Maybe it would behave differently in a solid axle car but in my >> case when I'd get on the gas I could jump an entire lane of trafic >> without >> moving the wheel. Same when I got off the gas. Maybe other things were >> contributing as well, I don't know but if he wants to drive his TR3 on >> the >> highway I'd tell him to think twice before doing so or at the least be >> ready for some wild rides. >> >> JVV >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 3:53 PM >> Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit >> >> >>> Dear FOT, >>> >>> Back in the mid-60s, Bix Durbin flipped his TR-3 end over end, and >>> decided to >>> hang up his racing efforts. I bought his limited slip unit, and raced >>> with >>> it for a few years until I stripped the teeth off of the pinion gear. I >>> then >>> went to the welded up differentials. >>> >>> I recently gave this unit to Dan Styduhar, who has been helping me work >>> on my >>> car for the last several years. Dan has also headed up the SAE Baja >>> racing >>> program for many years on the Pittsburgh branch campus of Penn State. >>> He >>> wants >>> to install this unit in his TR-3 for autocrosses, hill climbs, and >>> possible >>> vintage racing; and would like to know who manufactured this unit. >>> >>> I realize that I can't send an attachment of pictures to the list. Are >>> there >>> FOTers who would be willing to look at the pictures and try to identify >>> the >>> manufacturer of this unit? I could send the photos to them >>> individually. From jaxonracing at yahoo.com Sun Dec 7 19:17:41 2008 From: jaxonracing at yahoo.com (Jay Creel) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 18:17:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] For Sale: 1147 Racing Engines Message-ID: <204629.16795.qm@web53507.mail.re2.yahoo.com> FOT, I have for sale, (2) complete ready to race 1147 motors prepared by George Bauchman. Both motors are complete and ready for installation. Both motors are refreshed and include 303014 heads. These motors are top notch and are well prepared. One motor has only one race weekend on it and the other is fresh with zero time. I have carbs and intake available for each motor as well as a set of Stahl headers. Give a call for complete information and pricing. Jay Creel 860.729.6569 From macdonaldp at rogers.com Sun Dec 7 21:56:41 2008 From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 23:56:41 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Differentials Message-ID: http://www.phantomgrip.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=57 Anyone heard of these? Are they any good, have bad points?? Paul [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] From Billb at bnj.com Sun Dec 7 22:16:25 2008 From: Billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 19:16:25 -1000 Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Differentials In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: From everything I've heard they don't do much. looking at the bits I'm not surprised. A salisbury type LSD uses a stack of clutch plates to do the job and they overheat easily. this system seems to use the sides of the spider gears as one clutch surface. There's no real explanation of how it works, just marketing drivel like "hand-selected materials". I spent a lot of time in advertising, I speak BS. That's absolutely BS. It's a faction of the cost of a real LSD. I expect it works about a fraction as well. On Dec 7, 2008, at 6:56 PM, Paul MacDonald wrote: > http://www.phantomgrip.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=57 > > Anyone heard of these? Are they any good, have bad points?? > > Paul > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef > which had a name of winmail.dat] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > Bill Babcock Babcock & Jenkins Billb at bnj.com 503.936.7660 www.bnj.com Editor Ke Nalu e-Magazine Paddlesurfing's Web Journal Bill at kenalu.com www.kenalu.com blog: www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog From rblake36 at yahoo.com Mon Dec 8 11:00:19 2008 From: rblake36 at yahoo.com (Robert Blake) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 10:00:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Atlanta area TR4 on Ebay Message-ID: <739110.96815.qm@web58506.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Is anyone familiar with a red 65 TR4 located in the Atlanta, GA area recently offered on Ebay. Auction ended Nov 29. If so would be interested in your opinion of the car. Bob Blake From WEmery7451 at aol.com Mon Dec 8 16:11:48 2008 From: WEmery7451 at aol.com (WEmery7451 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 18:11:48 EST Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Limited Slip Unit Message-ID: Dear FOT, I would like to thank everyone for their input as to the type of unit this is, and the manufacturer. It appears that Michael did a pretty thorough job. My older brother worked at Eaton for a number of years. I can vaguely remember him mentioned these units, or something like them. ************** Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom 00000010) Return-path: From: WEmery7451 at aol.com Full-name: WEmery7451 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 17:25:18 EST Subject: Fwd: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit To: UNV at PSU.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/mixed by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME093-9c2493b9429379; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 04:15:38 -0500 Received: from dfn.com (dfn.com [206.206.88.7]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME066-9c2493b9429379; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 04:15:21 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.2] [206.206.89.65] by dfn.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-8.22) id A425073C; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 02:15:17 -0700 Message-ID: <493B9411.2030605 at dfn.com> Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 02:14:57 -0700 From: Michael Porter Reply-To: mdporter at dfn.com Organization: Very little User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: WEmery7451 at aol.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Declude-Sender: mdporter at dfn.com [192.168.0.2] X-Declude-Spoolname: D9425008e0000ed13.smd X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.4.23 for spam. "http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm" X-Declude-Scan: Score [0] at 02:15:20 on 07 Dec 2008 X-Declude-Fail: Whitelisted X-AOL-IP: 206.206.88.7 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain WEmery7451 at aol.com wrote: > Hi Michael, > > I attempted to attach the pictures. Bill Emery > > Bill, it certainly looks like an old Detroit Locker. The dogs and springs look very much like the early ones, as does the case style (very similar to the split ring gear flange on the old Ford 9" locker carriers). I would guess it was one of the early ones produced by Detroit Automotive Products (DAPCO). Since the product line has since been sold to Tractech, which was, in turn, then sold to Eaton, Eaton is the likely place to find parts. The maker's mark probably isn't going to be much help--it's likely the mark of the company doing the carrier casting, from the look of it. There ought to be a model/serial number on it somewhere, and I'd guess it's on the ring gear flange, underneath the ring gear. Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... From srcypher at mac.com Mon Dec 8 16:52:51 2008 From: srcypher at mac.com (Scott Cypher) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 18:52:51 -0500 Subject: [Fot] CL: TR4 Fiberglass (NY-Long Island) Message-ID: <41CA7FED-E8D5-41A6-A92C-4E3B2C2E22CE@mac.com> Not mine, no interest, but if someone was seeking fiberglass rear fenders... http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/pts/942057858.html Thanks -Scott Cypher spitfireracer at xsmail.com SCCA #37 HP Spitfire 1500 #362573 Reading, PA http://gallery.me.com/srcypher#gallery 1971 Spit MkIV/1500 RaceCar 1971 TR6 TBD 1976 TR7 Street 1968 GT6 Vintage "I'm so excited I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head. Its the excitement only a free man can feel. A free man at the start of a long journey, whose conclusion is uncertain" From colordog.1 at earthlink.net Mon Dec 8 16:57:57 2008 From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (steve belfer) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 23:57:57 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Tr3 steering shaft Message-ID: <294192134-1228780727-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-673227095-@bxe296.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> I'm about to get a quick release steering wheel shaft welded to my existing steering shaft. The part that was ordered is bigger in diameter than the shaft itself. Does this mean I could not ever fix the steering box, should the need arise because the shaft pulls out from the front? Do I need to get a quick release unit with an end that's the same dia. As the shaft and not bigger? Steve Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From brad.kahler at 141.com Mon Dec 8 17:52:13 2008 From: brad.kahler at 141.com (Brad Kahler) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:52:13 GMT Subject: [Fot] Tr3 steering shaft Message-ID: <200812081752963.SM03744@[166.70.182.40]> Steve, The later TR3s had split steering shafts.B If yours is a solid one piece I would look for a later gearbox with the slit column.B Much eaiser to work on as well..B Brad -----Original Message----- From: "steve belfer" Sent 12/8/2008 4:57:57 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Tr3 steering shaftI'm about to get a quick release steering wheel shaft welded to my existing steering shaft. The part that was ordered is bigger in diameter than the shaft itself. Does this mean I could not ever fix the steering box, should the need arise because the shaft pulls out from the front? Do I need to get a quick release unit with an end that's the same dia. As the shaft and not bigger? Steve Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From colordog.1 at earthlink.net Mon Dec 8 18:02:55 2008 From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (steve belfer) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 01:02:55 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Tr3 steering shaft In-Reply-To: <200812081752963.SM03744@[166.70.182.40]> References: <200812081752963.SM03744@[166.70.182.40]> Message-ID: <38158263-1228784624-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-526151194-@bxe296.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> I have the one piece shaft in the car and an extra unit in storage (lower half only). I don't plan on swapping this out now since everything is working great. I'll look for a smaller dia. Quick release unit. Btw, I just had some nice roll bar work done, if anyone wants to see, email me for pictures. Steve Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: "Brad Kahler" Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:52:13 To: ; fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Tr3 steering shaft Steve, The later TR3s had split steering shafts.B If yours is a solid one piece I would look for a later gearbox with the slit column.B Much eaiser to work on as well..B Brad -----Original Message----- From: "steve belfer" Sent 12/8/2008 4:57:57 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Tr3 steering shaftI'm about to get a quick release steering wheel shaft welded to my existing steering shaft. The part that was ordered is bigger in diameter than the shaft itself. Does this mean I could not ever fix the steering box, should the need arise because the shaft pulls out from the front? Do I need to get a quick release unit with an end that's the same dia. As the shaft and not bigger? Steve Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.htmlhttp://www.fot-racing.com Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From Gt6steve at aol.com Mon Dec 8 18:32:02 2008 From: Gt6steve at aol.com (Gt6steve at aol.com) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 20:32:02 EST Subject: [Fot] Tr3 steering shaft Message-ID: Hell Yes we want to see! Send it out, I can put it on my Photobucket page so all can see. Steve ;-)) **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) From william.tobin3 at verizon.net Mon Dec 8 20:26:33 2008 From: william.tobin3 at verizon.net (WILLIAM TOBIN) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:26:33 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Differentials References: Message-ID: <002a01c959ad$f0125f80$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> Hi all, on a related note, has anyone used the Infiniti or 300ZX viscous limited slip setup in a TR6? The one that Richard Good makes a kit for? Thanks, Bill----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul MacDonald" To: "Fot" Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 11:56 PM Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Differentials > http://www.phantomgrip.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=57 > > Anyone heard of these? Are they any good, have bad points?? > > Paul > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From macdonaldp at rogers.com Mon Dec 8 20:52:47 2008 From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 22:52:47 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Differentials In-Reply-To: <002a01c959ad$f0125f80$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> Message-ID: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110321369 431&ih=001&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem= There is one in this car that is for sale on Ebay...sounds like a nice car. Paul -----Original Message----- From: WILLIAM TOBIN [mailto:william.tobin3 at verizon.net] Sent: December 8, 2008 10:27 PM To: Paul MacDonald; Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Limited Slip Differentials Hi all, on a related note, has anyone used the Infiniti or 300ZX viscous limited slip setup in a TR6? The one that Richard Good makes a kit for? Thanks, Bill----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul MacDonald" To: "Fot" Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 11:56 PM Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Differentials > http://www.phantomgrip.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=57 > > Anyone heard of these? Are they any good, have bad points?? > > Paul > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From mark at bradakis.com Mon Dec 8 21:53:43 2008 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 21:53:43 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Tr3 steering shaft In-Reply-To: <38158263-1228784624-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-526151194-@bxe296.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <200812081752963.SM03744@[166.70.182.40]> <38158263-1228784624-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-526151194-@bxe296.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <493DF9D7.10104@bradakis.com> steve belfer wrote: > if anyone wants to see, email me for pictures. > > A reminder to folks - if you don't have a personal server to host your photos, you can put them in a post on http://www.team.net/forums mjb. From mediehljr at yahoo.com Tue Dec 9 06:00:14 2008 From: mediehljr at yahoo.com (Ed Diehl) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 05:00:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] CL: TR4 Fiberglass (NY-Long Island) In-Reply-To: <41CA7FED-E8D5-41A6-A92C-4E3B2C2E22CE@mac.com> Message-ID: <999793.13788.qm@web51905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello all. For what it's worth, I have molds for rear fenders for TR4 or TR250 in XLent shape that I will sell for $200 plus shipping. Contact me off list. Merry Christmas. Cheers, Ed. Ed Diehl --- On Mon, 12/8/08, Scott Cypher wrote: From: Scott Cypher Subject: [Fot] CL: TR4 Fiberglass (NY-Long Island) To: "Friends of Triumph" Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 6:52 PM Not mine, no interest, but if someone was seeking fiberglass rear fenders... http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/pts/942057858.html Thanks -Scott Cypher spitfireracer at xsmail.com SCCA #37 HP Spitfire 1500 #362573 Reading, PA http://gallery.me.com/srcypher#gallery 1971 Spit MkIV/1500 RaceCar 1971 TR6 TBD 1976 TR7 Street 1968 GT6 Vintage "I'm so excited I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head. Its the excitement only a free man can feel. A free man at the start of a long journey, whose conclusion is uncertain" Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From trhouse at greenapple.com Tue Dec 9 07:33:45 2008 From: trhouse at greenapple.com (Tom Householder) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 09:33:45 -0500 Subject: [Fot] CL: TR4 Fiberglass (NY-Long Island) In-Reply-To: <999793.13788.qm@web51905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: on 12/9/08 8:00 AM, Ed Diehl at mediehljr at yahoo.com wrote: > Hello all. For what it's worth, I have molds for rear fenders for TR4 or TR250 > in XLent shape that I will sell for $200 plus shipping. Contact me off list. > Merry Christmas. Cheers, Ed. > > Ed Diehl > > --- On Mon, 12/8/08, Scott Cypher wrote: For the inventory I have a fiberglass mould for the rear valence for a TR6 FYI tom From trmarty at hotmail.com Tue Dec 9 10:11:43 2008 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 12:11:43 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Differentials In-Reply-To: <002a01c959ad$f0125f80$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> References: <002a01c959ad$f0125f80$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> Message-ID: Yup, been there done that. Would definitely do it again. Marty> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 22:26:33 -0500> From: william.tobin3 at verizon.net> To: macdonaldp at rogers.com; fot at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] Limited Slip Differentials> > Hi all, on a related note, has anyone used the Infiniti or 300ZX viscous> limited slip setup in a TR6? The one that Richard Good makes a kit for?> Thanks, Bill----- Original Message ----- _________________________________________________________________ Suspicious message? Theres an alert for that. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad2_1 22008 From mark at bradakis.com Tue Dec 9 19:48:52 2008 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:48:52 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Nice photo Message-ID: <493F2E14.6030505@bradakis.com> Karen just got home with the contents of the PO box, which included a new issue of The Vintage Triumph. Nice cover shot of a couple of racing TRs - they look sort of familiar, it seems. mjb. From janbarker888 at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 9 22:46:54 2008 From: janbarker888 at sbcglobal.net (janbarker888 at sbcglobal.net) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 21:46:54 -0800 Subject: [Fot] REMOVAL FROM LIST Message-ID: <002601c95a8a$b58133e0$9f94ed45@yourf78bf48ce2> Please remove my name from the FOT list - I'm just not able to keep up with all the e-mails. Thanks Jerry Barker janbarker888 at sbcglobal.net From jsnook at wcnet.org Wed Dec 10 06:29:35 2008 From: jsnook at wcnet.org (Jeff Snook) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:29:35 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nice photo References: <493F2E14.6030505@bradakis.com> Message-ID: Hey Mark, This photo must have been during one of the early sessions when Henry Fry was having car troubles. He was "smokin' hot" all weekend and I could not stay in front of him for very long!! Congratulations to Henry!! Jeff Snook www.snooksdreamcars.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark J Bradakis To: 'Friends of Triumph' Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:48 PM Subject: [Fot] Nice photo Karen just got home with the contents of the PO box, which included a new issue of The Vintage Triumph. Nice cover shot of a couple of racing TRs - they look sort of familiar, it seems. mjb. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html http://www.fot-racing.com Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1840 - Release Date: 12/9/2008 4:53 PM From billdentin at aol.com Wed Dec 10 08:05:31 2008 From: billdentin at aol.com (billdentin at aol.com) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:05:31 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nice photo In-Reply-To: <493F2E14.6030505@bradakis.com> References: <493F2E14.6030505@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <8CB28EFE04A6E8D-1518-1197@FWM-M12.sysops.aol.com> <<< Karen just got home with the contents of the PO box, which included? a new issue of The Vintage Triumph. Nice cover shot of a couple of? racing TRs - they look sort of familiar, it seems. >>>? I'll say!? Jeff?Snook and Henry Frye.? Great shot.? Great issue too.? The GLEN article captures the magnitude and scope of the event over and above the awesome vintage racing.? I particularly liked?Mike Cook's memorial to P. L. Newman, and Paul?Richardson's article on the FERGUSON tractor ties. Bill Dentinger? _______________________________________________? From hakhutch at roadrunner.com Wed Dec 10 17:59:48 2008 From: hakhutch at roadrunner.com (Tim Hutchisen) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:59:48 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nice photo References: <493F2E14.6030505@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <2E7178A2C2DF498A8A3EFBBB0E715EF7@UPSTAIRSOFFICE> I'd like to think it was Henry's crew chief for the weekend that made his car fast all weekend, but I didn't do anything that would remotely qualify as "tuning". It was all Henry's efforts that got him this fame and glory! Tim Hutchisen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Snook" To: "Mark J Bradakis" ; "'Friends of Triumph'" Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Nice photo > Hey Mark, > > This photo must have been during one of the early sessions when Henry Fry > was > having car troubles. He was "smokin' hot" all weekend and I could not > stay in > front of him for very long!! > > Congratulations to Henry!! > > Jeff Snook > www.snooksdreamcars.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mark J Bradakis > To: 'Friends of Triumph' > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:48 PM > Subject: [Fot] Nice photo > > > Karen just got home with the contents of the PO box, which included > a new issue of The Vintage Triumph. Nice cover shot of a couple of > racing TRs - they look sort of familiar, it seems. > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1840 - Release Date: > 12/9/2008 > 4:53 PM > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From mlcooknj at msn.com Wed Dec 10 18:00:49 2008 From: mlcooknj at msn.com (michael cook) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:00:49 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nice photo In-Reply-To: <2E7178A2C2DF498A8A3EFBBB0E715EF7@UPSTAIRSOFFICE> References: <493F2E14.6030505@bradakis.com> <2E7178A2C2DF498A8A3EFBBB0E715EF7@UPSTAIRSOFFICE> Message-ID: Looking from outside, what I see is a bunch of talented guys wrenching and driving, making all the cars go faster and better. Mike Cook> From: hakhutch at roadrunner.com> To: jsnook at wcnet.org; fot at autox.team.net> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:59:48 -0500> Subject: Re: [Fot] Nice photo> > I'd like to think it was Henry's crew chief for the weekend that made his > car fast all weekend, but I didn't do anything that would remotely qualify > as "tuning". It was all Henry's efforts that got him this fame and glory!> > Tim Hutchisen> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Snook" > To: "Mark J Bradakis" ; "'Friends of Triumph'" > > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:29 AM> Subject: Re: [Fot] Nice photo> > > > Hey Mark,> >> > This photo must have been during one of the early sessions when Henry Fry > > was> > having car troubles. He was "smokin' hot" all weekend and I could not > > stay in> > front of him for very long!!> >> > Congratulations to Henry!!> >> > Jeff Snook> > www.snooksdreamcars.com> > ----- Original Message -----> > From: Mark J Bradakis> > To: 'Friends of Triumph'> > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:48 PM> > Subject: [Fot] Nice photo> >> >> > Karen just got home with the contents of the PO box, which included> > a new issue of The Vintage Triumph. Nice cover shot of a couple of> > racing TRs - they look sort of familiar, it seems.> >> > mjb.> > _______________________________________________> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> >> > http://www.fot-racing.com> >> > Fot mailing list> > Fot at autox.team.net> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot> >> >> >> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------------> > -> >> >> >> > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com> > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1840 - Release Date: > > 12/9/2008> > 4:53 PM> > _______________________________________________> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> >> > http://www.fot-racing.com> >> > Fot mailing list> > Fot at autox.team.net> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot> _______________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > http://www.fot-racing.com> > Fot mailing list> Fot at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot> From riverside at cedar-rapids.net Wed Dec 10 16:08:50 2008 From: riverside at cedar-rapids.net (riverside) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:08:50 -0600 Subject: [Fot] custom radiators Message-ID: <00e501c95b48$2c8ada00$8fcf1a3f@your55e5f9e3d2> Group, can anyone recommend a source for custom radiator fabrication? Thanks art de armond From henry at henryfrye.com Thu Dec 11 04:16:13 2008 From: henry at henryfrye.com (Henry Frye) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 06:16:13 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nice photo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2B52E8650115BB4085979C721A085AD40A3E5B@server.Triumph.local> Thanks, Jeff. I wish everybody could experience the elation I felt that day. Talk about making all the effort worthwhile. After the tragic weekend at Grattan a few weeks prior, several of us were running with heavy hearts. I guess that translated into a heavy foot, just what Jack would have wanted. I miss Jack. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Snook > Subject: Re: [Fot] Nice photo > > Hey Mark, > > This photo must have been during one of the early sessions > when Henry Fry was having car troubles. He was "smokin' hot" > all weekend and I could not stay in front of him for very long!! > > Congratulations to Henry!! From standardtriumph at btinternet.com Thu Dec 11 05:29:58 2008 From: standardtriumph at btinternet.com (John Macartney) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:29:58 -0000 Subject: [Fot] Nice photo References: <2B52E8650115BB4085979C721A085AD40A3E5B@server.Triumph.local> Message-ID: <0B3E7670A439452983F842EDCF6233B4@Bevan> Henry Frye wrote: > I miss Jack. All who knew Jack (and I was one who didn't, except through his emails to me) will surely echo that sentiment. But his name lives on in the hearts of all he knew himself - and in the form of a Stag I'll be driving across the States and Canada next year - that's been 'christened' as 'uncle jack' Jonmac From Gt6steve at aol.com Thu Dec 11 06:18:24 2008 From: Gt6steve at aol.com (Gt6steve at aol.com) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:18:24 EST Subject: [Fot] custom radiators Message-ID: Afco Racing supply **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) From VANDECARR at aol.com Thu Dec 11 06:55:47 2008 From: VANDECARR at aol.com (VANDECARR at aol.com) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:55:47 EST Subject: [Fot] custom radiators Message-ID: I had a custom aluminum radiator built for my Lola T200 by Moxie Radiators in West Seneca NY (http://www.moxieradiator.com/). They did a nice job on a complicated radiator and the price was reasonable. The finished product was true to the plans but was about 2 months late which seems to be normal for custom work. Dean VanDeCarr ************** Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp& icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) From brad.kahler at 141.com Thu Dec 11 08:07:54 2008 From: brad.kahler at 141.com (Brad Kahler) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:07:54 GMT Subject: [Fot] Heavy duty Tig welderin in SoCal Message-ID: <200812110807416.SM06884@[166.70.182.40]> Ran across this ad on Craigs list.B I have the HDA-200 welder which is the smaller brother to this welder.B Great welders.B They are HEAVY but well worth the price. http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bfs/939977723.html Bring your engine hoist when you pick it up. NFI Brad From standardtriumph at btinternet.com Thu Dec 11 09:46:35 2008 From: standardtriumph at btinternet.com (John Macartney) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:46:35 -0000 Subject: [Fot] More news on the Triumph Trans-AmeriCa Charity Drive 2009 Message-ID: As some of you already know, the Stag that I'm driving next year is now known as 'uncle jack' in memory of Jack Drews, who died earlier this year while racing his TR4. Reconstruction work on the car itself continues apace under 'Stagmeister' Joe Pawlak and his team at ISOA and Tim Buja has posted the latest pix of work undertaken this last weekend. You can see those pix and the dedication of the Stag in Jack's memory on the event website which is www.triumphtransamerica.org.uk Cheers, all John Macartney Originator of The Triumph Trans-America Charity Drive 2009 www.triumphtransamerica.org.uk An event for full TRIUMPH Enthusiast participation From jaboruch at netzero.net Thu Dec 11 17:46:09 2008 From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:46:09 GMT Subject: [Fot] custom radiators Message-ID: <20081211.194609.21004.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> About 8 years ago I had a TR3 type aluminum radiator (less the filler neck) custom made at Howe Radiator in Michigan. It only took a couple of weeks and was true to my drawing. Their web site is http://www.howeracing.com/Radiators/Index-CustomRadiators.htm. Joe(B) -- "riverside" wrote: Group, can anyone recommend a source for custom radiator fabrication? Thanks art de armond Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot ____________________________________________________________ Save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD! Shop now at http://offers.netzero.net/TGL1231/?u=http://www.ftd.com/17007 From mark at bradakis.com Thu Dec 11 20:45:58 2008 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:45:58 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR6 Second Gear Scrunch Message-ID: <4941DE76.1060603@bradakis.com> About a year ago I rebuilt a trans and A type overdrive for a fellow here in Salt Lake City. At that time we also installed one of TRF's 'Magic clutch kits' with a Gunst throwout bearing. About a month or so back he brings it by the shop and has me drive it around. The gearbox works well, except that going into second gear you get grinding noises. Upshifting or down, you get the noise. Shifting into any other gear is just fine. To me the clutch engagement seemed too close to the floor, and the transmission behavior was a lot like what my little Nissan pickup does on occasion. In the pickup, I pull the floor mat out from under the clutch pedal to fix it. I suggested that one probable cause was the clutch hydraulics, as we did nothing to that last year at the time of the rebuild. Anyway, he brings the car in with a new aftermarket slave cylinder and an adjustable pushrod, which I installed the other day. The 1st - 2nd shifts are smoother, the engagement point is further off the floor, but still grinding on 3 - 2 downshifts, though not as badly as before. More bleeding and adjustment, the 3 - 2 noise persists. Pulled the cover off the gearbox, everything looks good inside. The synchro has plenty of clearance, end floats seem to be fine, nothing amiss as far as I can tell from my contorted position under the dash trying to peer into the heart of the thing. Now what? Anyone have some sure fire ways to determine if the grinding is due to internal gearbox issues, or simply a dragging clutch? mjb. From budscars at comcast.net Thu Dec 11 20:48:38 2008 From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:48:38 -0800 Subject: [Fot] custom radiators References: <20081211.194609.21004.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: Spitfire Tranny... Hi gang.... In the race at Infineon in October, my tranny messed up in my spitfire(stock Tranny)....first it was popping out of 3rd (I could hold it in)...then...It would not downshift to second(grind).....1st and 4th worked fine.... Any help will be greatly appreciated..I have not pulled it yet Thanks! Racer Bud..Spitfire # 21 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Boruch" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] custom radiators > About 8 years ago I had a TR3 type aluminum radiator (less the filler > neck) > custom made at Howe Radiator in Michigan. It only took a couple of weeks > and > was true to my drawing. Their web site is > http://www.howeracing.com/Radiators/Index-CustomRadiators.htm. Joe(B) > > -- "riverside" wrote: > Group, > > can anyone recommend a source for > custom radiator fabrication? > Thanks > > art de armond > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > ____________________________________________________________ > Save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD! > Shop now at http://offers.netzero.net/TGL1231/?u=http://www.ftd.com/17007 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From Billb at bnj.com Thu Dec 11 21:14:50 2008 From: Billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:14:50 -1000 Subject: [Fot] TR6 Second Gear Scrunch In-Reply-To: <4941DE76.1060603@bradakis.com> References: <4941DE76.1060603@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <2F06A168-D57D-4964-8C08-05C92CD1F881@bnj.com> It sure sounds like a dragging clutch. Might be a warped plate. On Dec 11, 2008, at 5:45 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > About a year ago I rebuilt a trans and A type overdrive for a fellow > here > in Salt Lake City. At that time we also installed one of TRF's 'Magic > clutch kits' with a Gunst throwout bearing. About a month or so back > he brings it by the shop and has me drive it around. > > The gearbox works well, except that going into second gear you get > grinding noises. Upshifting or down, you get the noise. Shifting > into > any other gear is just fine. > > To me the clutch engagement seemed too close to the floor, and the > transmission behavior was a lot like what my little Nissan pickup > does on occasion. In the pickup, I pull the floor mat out from under > the clutch pedal to fix it. I suggested that one probable cause was > the > clutch hydraulics, as we did nothing to that last year at the time of > the rebuild. > > Anyway, he brings the car in with a new aftermarket slave cylinder > and an adjustable pushrod, which I installed the other day. The 1st > - 2nd > shifts are smoother, the engagement point is further off the floor, > but > still grinding on 3 - 2 downshifts, though not as badly as before. > More > bleeding and adjustment, the 3 - 2 noise persists. > > Pulled the cover off the gearbox, everything looks good inside. The > synchro has plenty of clearance, end floats seem to be fine, nothing > amiss as far as I can tell from my contorted position under the dash > trying to peer into the heart of the thing. > > Now what? Anyone have some sure fire ways to determine if the > grinding is due to internal gearbox issues, or simply a dragging > clutch? > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > Bill Babcock Babcock & Jenkins Billb at bnj.com 503.936.7660 www.bnj.com Editor Ke Nalu e-Magazine Paddlesurfing's Web Journal Bill at kenalu.com www.kenalu.com blog: www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog From tr3driver at ca.rr.com Thu Dec 11 22:43:41 2008 From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:43:41 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR6 Second Gear Scrunch In-Reply-To: <4941DE76.1060603@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <20081212054340.VATZ26434.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@randall> > Now what? Anyone have some sure fire ways to determine if > the grinding is due to internal gearbox issues, or simply a > dragging clutch? The test for a dragging clutch (pilot bearing, etc.) is fairly easy : Depress and hold the clutch; shift into 2nd (or any gear with synchromesh) to stop the input shaft; then shift to neutral, wait a beat, and shift into reverse. If it grinds at all, the clutch (etc.) is dragging. Randall From robertten1 at aol.com Fri Dec 12 06:53:31 2008 From: robertten1 at aol.com (robertten1 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:53:31 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Spifire tranny ... In-Reply-To: References: <20081211.194609.21004.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <8CB2A7826BB3472-1108-1F10@FWM-M15.sysops.aol.com> Racer Bud, Snap ring in front of 3rd gear assy. is broken.? Time for a complete rebuild. Best of luck, Bob T. '64 Spit GT? autocrosser -----Original Message----- From: RACER BUD To: Joe Boruch ; riverside at cedar-rapids.net Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:48 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] custom radiators Spitfire Tranny...? Hi gang....? In the race at Infineon in October, my tranny messed up in my spitfire(stock Tranny)....first it was popping out of 3rd (I could hold it in)...then...It would not downshift to second(grind).....1st and 4th worked fine....? Any help will be greatly appreciated..I have not pulled it yet? Thanks!? Racer Bud..Spitfire # 21? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Boruch" ? To: ? Cc: ? Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:46 PM? Subject: Re: [Fot] custom radiators? ? > About 8 years ago I had a TR3 type aluminum radiator (less the filler > neck)? > custom made at Howe Radiator in Michigan. It only took a couple of weeks > and? > was true to my drawing. Their web site is? > http://www.howeracing.com/Radiators/Index-CustomRadiators.htm. Joe(B)? >? > -- "riverside" wrote:? > Group,? >? > can anyone recommend a source for? > custom radiator fabrication?? > Thanks? >? > art de armond? > Fot mailing list? > Fot at autox.team.net? > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot? >? > ____________________________________________________________? > Save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD!? > Shop now at http://offers.netzero.net/TGL1231/?u=http://www.ftd.com/17007? > _______________________________________________? > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? >? > http://www.fot-racing.com? >? > Fot mailing list? > Fot at autox.team.net? > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot? _______________________________________________? Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? ? http://www.fot-racing.com? ? Fot mailing list? Fot at autox.team.net? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot? ? From robertten1 at aol.com Fri Dec 12 06:56:18 2008 From: robertten1 at aol.com (robertten1 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:56:18 -0500 Subject: [Fot] custom radiators In-Reply-To: <20081211.194609.21004.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> References: <20081211.194609.21004.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <8CB2A788AADCBA6-1108-1F30@FWM-M15.sysops.aol.com> Some of the TR parts suppliers are listing alloy rads.? Check them out if they fit your needs. Best of luck, Bob T. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Boruch To: riverside at cedar-rapids.net Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 7:46 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] custom radiators About 8 years ago I had a TR3 type aluminum radiator (less the filler neck) custom made at Howe Radiator in Michigan. It only took a couple of weeks and was true to my drawing. Their web site is http://www.howeracing.com/Radiators/Index-CustomRadiators.htm. Joe(B) -- "riverside" wrote: Group, can anyone recommend a source for custom radiator fabrication? Thanks art de armond Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot ____________________________________________________________ Save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD! Shop now at http://offers.netzero.net/TGL1231/?u=http://www.ftd.com/17007 Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From cwn74 at aol.com Fri Dec 12 07:32:29 2008 From: cwn74 at aol.com (Clark W. Nicholls) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:32:29 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Spifire tranny ... In-Reply-To: <8CB2A7826BB3472-1108-1F10@FWM-M15.sysops.aol.com> References: <20081211.194609.21004.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> <8CB2A7826BB3472-1108-1F10@FWM-M15.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1F45C5411E9346D2B645C5009FBF066C@semperon3400> I agree it is the snap ring on the mainshaft. Never use a used one, always new! If you need to take it off, use another new one (buy several). If you hold the shift lever to keep the tranny in gear and let off on the gas you'll notice the lever move (try to move). That is the gears moving on the mainshaft due to the snap ring coming out of the groove. There is a thrust washer in there too that can get damaged. Been there.... Clark Clark W. Nicholls '72 Stag '74 Spitfire "Reality... It's not what you think." From fubog1 at aol.com Fri Dec 12 07:45:39 2008 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:45:39 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Spifire tranny ... In-Reply-To: <1F45C5411E9346D2B645C5009FBF066C@semperon3400> References: <1F45C5411E9346D2B645C5009FBF066C@semperon3400> Message-ID: <8CB2A7F6F6D7AEF-E24-38A@WEBMAIL-DG13.sim.aol.com> Yes, too much end float, most likely the circlip, and also the circlip has a slight offset on one end & it has to be fitted facing forward ie away from the gear/thrust washer. Glen -----Original Message----- From: Clark W. Nicholls To: robertten1 at aol.com; fot at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 9:32 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Spifire tranny ... I agree it is the snap ring on the mainshaft. Never use a used one, always new! If you need to take it off, use another new one (buy several). If you hold the shift lever to keep the tranny in gear and let off on the gas you'll notice the lever move (try to move). That is the gears moving on the mainshaft due to the snap ring coming out of the groove. There is a thrust washer in there too that can get damaged. Been there.... Clark Clark W. Nicholls '72 Stag '74 Spitfire "Reality... It's not what you think." Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From kenandtweety at yahoo.com Fri Dec 12 08:32:50 2008 From: kenandtweety at yahoo.com (Ken Suhre) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:32:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] TR6 Second Gear Scrunch In-Reply-To: <4941DE76.1060603@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <480335.66343.qm@web111402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Mark wrote:About a year ago I rebuilt a trans and A type overdrive for a fellow here in Salt Lake City. Mark, My experience has been that if all other gears shift fine, then the offending one probably has a worn blocker ring or the syncro engagement teeth on the gear are rounded off. A dragging clutch could cause the excess wear to the blocker ring or it could be the driver not disengaging the clutch properly. It could also be junior wear. (the guys kid is beating the crap out of it.) Ken Suhre --- On Thu, 12/11/08, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > From: Mark J Bradakis > Subject: [Fot] TR6 Second Gear Scrunch > To: "'Friends of Triumph'" > Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 9:45 PM > About a year ago I rebuilt a trans and A type overdrive for > a fellow here > in Salt Lake City. At that time we also installed one of > TRF's 'Magic > clutch kits' with a Gunst throwout bearing. About a > month or so back > he brings it by the shop and has me drive it around. > > The gearbox works well, except that going into second gear > you get > grinding noises. Upshifting or down, you get the noise. > Shifting into > any other gear is just fine. > > To me the clutch engagement seemed too close to the floor, > and the > transmission behavior was a lot like what my little Nissan > pickup > does on occasion. In the pickup, I pull the floor mat out > from under > the clutch pedal to fix it. I suggested that one probable > cause was the > clutch hydraulics, as we did nothing to that last year at > the time of > the rebuild. > > Anyway, he brings the car in with a new aftermarket slave > cylinder > and an adjustable pushrod, which I installed the other day. > The 1st - 2nd > shifts are smoother, the engagement point is further off > the floor, but > still grinding on 3 - 2 downshifts, though not as badly as > before. More > bleeding and adjustment, the 3 - 2 noise persists. > > Pulled the cover off the gearbox, everything looks good > inside. The > synchro has plenty of clearance, end floats seem to be > fine, nothing > amiss as far as I can tell from my contorted position under > the dash > trying to peer into the heart of the thing. > > Now what? Anyone have some sure fire ways to determine if > the > grinding is due to internal gearbox issues, or simply a > dragging > clutch? > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From budscars at comcast.net Fri Dec 12 10:09:18 2008 From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:09:18 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Spifire tranny ... References: <20081211.194609.21004.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> <8CB2A7826BB3472-1108-1F10@FWM-M15.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: thanks to all for info on my spit tranny Racer Bud spitfire#21 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 5:53 AM Subject: [Fot] Spifire tranny ... > Racer Bud, > > Snap ring in front of 3rd gear assy. is broken.? Time for a complete > rebuild. > > Best of luck, > Bob T. > '64 Spit GT? autocrosser > > > -----Original Message----- > From: RACER BUD > To: Joe Boruch ; riverside at cedar-rapids.net > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:48 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] custom radiators > > > Spitfire Tranny...? > Hi gang....? > In the race at Infineon in October, my tranny messed up in my > spitfire(stock Tranny)....first it was popping out of 3rd (I could hold it > in)...then...It would not downshift to second(grind).....1st and 4th > worked fine....? > Any help will be greatly appreciated..I have not pulled it yet? > Thanks!? > Racer Bud..Spitfire # 21? > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Boruch" ? > To: ? > Cc: ? > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:46 PM? > Subject: Re: [Fot] custom radiators? > ? >> About 8 years ago I had a TR3 type aluminum radiator (less the filler > >> neck)? >> custom made at Howe Radiator in Michigan. It only took a couple of weeks >> > and? >> was true to my drawing. Their web site is? >> http://www.howeracing.com/Radiators/Index-CustomRadiators.htm. Joe(B)? >>? >> -- "riverside" wrote:? >> Group,? >>? >> can anyone recommend a source for? >> custom radiator fabrication?? >> Thanks? >>? >> art de armond? >> Fot mailing list? >> Fot at autox.team.net? >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot? >>? >> ____________________________________________________________? >> Save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD!? >> Shop now at >> http://offers.netzero.net/TGL1231/?u=http://www.ftd.com/17007? >> _______________________________________________? >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? >>? >> http://www.fot-racing.com? >>? >> Fot mailing list? >> Fot at autox.team.net? >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot? > _______________________________________________? > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? > ? > http://www.fot-racing.com? > ? > Fot mailing list? > Fot at autox.team.net? > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot? > ? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From markconsultation at twcny.rr.com Fri Dec 12 11:57:54 2008 From: markconsultation at twcny.rr.com (Mark Eginton) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:57:54 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Parts needed Message-ID: <001201c95c8b$8a123b70$6401a8c0@HP> Found pistons from Joe A - just what the doctor ordered. Considering a cam ground by ISKY 555 or 666 recommendation from Joe. Thinking about asking Santa for a ProSim Tabletop dyno program to play with over the holidaze to see how the hp torque profiles look. There is a calibration option - does anyone have a build sheet for a TR3/4 motor and an engine dyno test? Don't dig it out yet till I get serious about this. I would be happy to share the database tuned to 4cyl tr3/4 if it all comes together. Best, M From rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com Fri Dec 12 16:17:30 2008 From: rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com (Bob) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:17:30 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR3 hardtop Message-ID: <4942F10A.1090703@cfl.rr.com> I am in the initial stages putting a 1957 TR3 back on the track. I think I would like to make into a GT and need a hard top to do so. So, I'm on the hunt for an original steel hardtop. Any leads would be greatly appreciated. Bob Mt Dora, FL From twakeman at razzolink.com Fri Dec 12 18:30:10 2008 From: twakeman at razzolink.com (TeriAnn Wakeman) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:30:10 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR3 hardtop In-Reply-To: <4942F10A.1090703@cfl.rr.com> References: <4942F10A.1090703@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <49431022.6090805@razzolink.com> Bob wrote: > I am in the initial stages putting a 1957 TR3 back on the track. I > think I would like to make into a GT and need a hard top to do so. So, > I'm on the hunt for an original steel hardtop. Any leads would be > greatly appreciated. I have one in California near Monterey that I've just put up for sale but I don't want to deal with crating it & shipping, unless it is something the UPS store could handle. It would like to find a new home soonish. From cwn74 at aol.com Fri Dec 12 19:39:41 2008 From: cwn74 at aol.com (Clark W. Nicholls) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:39:41 -0500 Subject: [Fot] FS: Triumph_GT6_Rallycross_Special in UK Message-ID: <666359C43A9F46F99B7785B3D24C4C6E@semperon3400> I came across this. Interesting car! http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listing/16765/Triumph_GT6_Rallycross_Special.h tml Usual disclaimer, I know nothing... Clark Clark W. Nicholls "Reality... It's not what you think." From philhyer at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 20:00:29 2008 From: philhyer at gmail.com (Phil Hyer) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:00:29 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Free Stag Parts Message-ID: As listed in south Florida craigslist http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/pts/955373365.html From budscars at comcast.net Sat Dec 13 12:59:00 2008 From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 11:59:00 -0800 Subject: [Fot] GT6 PROJECT CAR IN SAN FRAN BAY AREA Message-ID: <82A0210DA44641259E89EF2965FE5B31@Bud> Hiu Gang..GT 6 project...all there..needs complete resto. with spare engine available..I don't know the price.. contact John Sidler at jsisler at cruzio.com Racer Bud From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 14 05:56:32 2008 From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:56:32 -0500 Subject: [Fot] FS: Triumph_GT6_Rallycross_Special in UK In-Reply-To: <666359C43A9F46F99B7785B3D24C4C6E@semperon3400> Message-ID: Interesting car, not really a GT6, but a Spit-6 with an after-market top. Also a left hooker. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Clark W. Nicholls Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 9:40 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] FS: Triumph_GT6_Rallycross_Special in UK I came across this. Interesting car! http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listing/16765/Triumph_GT6_Rallycross_Special.h tml Usual disclaimer, I know nothing... Clark Clark W. Nicholls "Reality... It's not what you think." Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From cartravel at pobox.com Sun Dec 14 07:59:21 2008 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:59:21 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Parts needed In-Reply-To: <001201c95c8b$8a123b70$6401a8c0@HP> References: <001201c95c8b$8a123b70$6401a8c0@HP> Message-ID: <49451F49.7050601@pobox.com> I have played with an engine simulator quite a bit. Mine is called Engine Analyzer from Performance Trends. I don't have enough data to dial it in, and I have my doubts about how accurate some of these cheap simulators are. I believe they are useful for indicating modifications to look at, but I would not count on it giving you quantitative results. I'm sure you could get quantitative results if you had one of the high dollar simulators and boat loads for flow and dyno data. I can only dream. Larry Mark Eginton wrote: > Found pistons from Joe A - just what the doctor ordered. Considering a cam > ground by ISKY 555 or 666 recommendation from Joe. Thinking about asking Santa > for a ProSim Tabletop dyno program to play with over the holidaze to see how > the hp torque profiles look. > > There is a calibration option - does anyone have a build sheet for a TR3/4 > motor and an engine dyno test? Don't dig it out yet till I get serious about > this. I would be happy to share the database tuned to 4cyl tr3/4 if it all > comes together. > > Best, > > M From jmwagner at greenheart.com Sun Dec 14 19:46:27 2008 From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:46:27 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Justin: EARLY TR2 JACK WANTED Message-ID: <4945C503.9070002@greenheart.com> I had no luck with this, I'm going to give it another shot, as finding this could like an Xmas present for myself.... --Justin WANTED: EARLY TR2 JACK See image: http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll126/InvestorImage/WANTEDTR2Jack.jpg Wanted: Original Early TR2 Jack, Part Number 107652, Approximately 21 inches long. (Note the exposed threads. Not looking for reproductions or later models.) Also looking for these other original tools: "Spanner, tube 1/2" x .56" A/F", "Spanner, sparking plug", "Spanner, adjustable", "Tommy Bar", "Screwdriver", "Gauge, feeler, assembly". I'm trying to put together the original tool kit for my very early 1954 TR2. Looking for good condition with a patina matching the age of the car and time spent in driven car. (I'm not trying to put together a set that looks like it came from the factory yesterday.) Let me know your price. I could also trade silicone valve cover gaskets... once I have made another run of them. Thanks Justin jmwagner at greenheart.com From budscars at comcast.net Sun Dec 14 20:32:45 2008 From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:32:45 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Justin: EARLY TR2 JACK WANTED References: <4945C503.9070002@greenheart.com> Message-ID: <6DCF3D180A3541C9A6A0C17BD307D4FB@Bud> Hi Justin..They are very difficult to find Racer Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Wagner" To: "Friends of Triumph" ; "Triumphs" Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 6:46 PM Subject: [Fot] Justin: EARLY TR2 JACK WANTED >I had no luck with this, I'm going to give it another shot, as finding > this could like an Xmas present for myself.... --Justin > > WANTED: EARLY TR2 JACK > > See image: > http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll126/InvestorImage/WANTEDTR2Jack.jpg > > Wanted: Original Early TR2 Jack, Part Number 107652, Approximately 21 > inches long. (Note the exposed threads. Not looking for reproductions > or later models.) Also looking for these other original tools: > "Spanner, tube 1/2" x .56" A/F", "Spanner, sparking plug", "Spanner, > adjustable", "Tommy Bar", "Screwdriver", "Gauge, feeler, assembly". I'm > trying to put together the original tool kit for my very early 1954 > TR2. Looking for good condition with a patina matching the age of the > car and time spent in driven car. (I'm not trying to put together a > set that looks like it came from the factory yesterday.) > > Let me know your price. I could also trade silicone valve cover > gaskets... once I have made another run of them. > > Thanks > > Justin > jmwagner at greenheart.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From mark at bradakis.com Mon Dec 15 02:27:51 2008 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:27:51 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Back on track? Message-ID: <49462317.1010106@bradakis.com> http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=11 mjb. From harmug at us.ibm.com Mon Dec 15 08:11:15 2008 From: harmug at us.ibm.com (George Harmuth) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:11:15 -0500 Subject: [Fot] GT6 restoration In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm restoring a 70 GT6 +. The weather strip around the door is gone and I bought a few lengths of repro, all rubber type, not Furflex gasket material with the imbedded metal clips. Does anyone have any tips or tricks for doing the install? It looks like I need to spread the clips open somewhat so they clear the interior parts and crimp it back down when I'm done. Is there any quick or easy way to do this? I was thinking of using a plexiglass ice scrapper to open the channel up with out doing any damage to the rubber and vise grip type welding clamp to crimp things back but I'm open to suggestions. Do you add adhesive too or are the clamps enough? Also, as part of the restore my wife wants to make her own door finishers in a color other than the standard black. The current ones have hardened up and are very brittle so just recovering them is not an option. As anyone built a set of these from scratch? What did you use for a core? thanks mike From sbracing at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 15 10:53:22 2008 From: sbracing at sbcglobal.net (Steven Benford Jr) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:53:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Make Uncle Jack Smile Message-ID: <962148.14085.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I received a Christmas card from Francis Drews last week, and that got me started thinking about how much I miss Uncle Jack. A man, and his family, that have touched so many lives. With this being the Christmas season, I ask that all of you give back to Jack in some way. I don't care with who or how much, but please make a donation to an organization in honor of Jack. Drop some money in the red bucket, give something extra to your house of faith, make a donation to the Red Cross / American Lung Assoc. / Heart Assoc., give blood, take some can goods to a food bank, etc.... When you do it, think of Jack. I am faithful that he will most certainly hear you and smile. Steve From GSFuqua1 at aol.com Mon Dec 15 12:06:03 2008 From: GSFuqua1 at aol.com (GSFuqua1 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:06:03 EST Subject: [Fot] Make Uncle Jack Smile Message-ID: Great idea Steve!! Thanks for bringing it up. Gary Fuqua **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) From kaskas at cox.net Mon Dec 15 13:28:19 2008 From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:28:19 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Make Uncle Jack Smile In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <885C867757D9465680C69F2347E4511C@KasPC> While everyone is thinking about the holidays you might also remember our keeper of the FOT flame in Salt Lake City, Mark Bradakis. Nice time to send a few bucks. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Make Uncle Jack Smile > Great idea Steve!! Thanks for bringing it up. > > Gary Fuqua > **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and > favorite sites in one place. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From jmwagner at greenheart.com Mon Dec 15 22:27:27 2008 From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:27:27 -0800 Subject: [Fot] A better way to knock off your spinners Message-ID: <49473C3F.3080205@greenheart.com> Cool looking tool! A better way to knock off your spinners: http://www.knockoffspinnertool.com/home From rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com Tue Dec 16 19:47:29 2008 From: rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com (Bob) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:47:29 -0500 Subject: [Fot] spindles Message-ID: <49486841.4020205@cfl.rr.com> Group, What are the differences between TR3 and TR6 spindles? thxx, Bob From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 17 06:51:35 2008 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis DeLap) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:51:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Detroit Locker Message-ID: <776573.14031.qm@web81706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Amici I've got a Detroit locker here that I am working on for future use. My question is this - The differential carrier has bearings that press onto each side. One side is worn so that the bearing just drops on and spins. This seems to be a common problem with these old beasts. Can this area be welded up and reground to get back to spec? ........or any other fixes? Thanks Dennis DeLap From bswope959 at msn.com Wed Dec 17 15:41:33 2008 From: bswope959 at msn.com (Bill Swope) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:41:33 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Make Uncle Jack Smile In-Reply-To: <885C867757D9465680C69F2347E4511C@KasPC> References: <885C867757D9465680C69F2347E4511C@KasPC> Message-ID: Any one got a-address for Jerry Burr In North Ca.? Vintage racer Wm. (Bill) Swope dba C ME GO Racing 1030 Green Valley Rd. NW Los Ranchos, N M 87107 bswope959 at msn.com (505) 345-6235; fax (505) 345-1180 ----- Original Message ----- From: Kas Kastner To: GSFuqua1 at aol.com ; sbracing at sbcglobal.net ; fot at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Make Uncle Jack Smile While everyone is thinking about the holidays you might also remember our keeper of the FOT flame in Salt Lake City, Mark Bradakis. Nice time to send a few bucks. ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: >; > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Make Uncle Jack Smile > Great idea Steve!! Thanks for bringing it up. > > Gary Fuqua > **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and > favorite sites in one place. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom000000 10) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html http://www.fot-racing.com Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From rocky at spitfire4.com Wed Dec 17 17:12:10 2008 From: rocky at spitfire4.com (Rocky Entriken) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:12:10 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Detroit Locker References: <776573.14031.qm@web81706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sure. It's just a mounting surface. I had one once on my Mk. 1 Spitfire, repaired it so many times it finally got "used up" and we just welded up a rear end. Decided I liked the welded rear better. With the limited slip, even with big axles I'd snap an axle about once a year. Nice thing was I could keep going. Done more than one race with one-wheel drive. With the welded rear when I snap an axle I'm done. It just tears everything up. BUT, I've only broken two axles since I've had the welded rear and that's more than 15 years now. IOW, the axles survive a lot better, probably because there's so much less slop in the rear end. --Rocky Entriken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis DeLap" To: "FOT" Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 7:51 AM Subject: [Fot] Detroit Locker > Amici > > I've got a Detroit locker here that I am working on for future use. > My question is this - > The differential carrier has bearings that press onto each side. One side > is worn so that the bearing just drops on and spins. This seems to be a > common problem with these old beasts. Can this area be welded up and > reground to get back to spec? ........or any other fixes? > > Thanks > Dennis DeLap > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 18 10:45:09 2008 From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:45:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] LeMans Message-ID: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Movie alert: Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. Doug From tlizzard at msn.com Thu Dec 18 10:47:49 2008 From: tlizzard at msn.com (Terry Stetler) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:47:49 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LeMans In-Reply-To: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Best racing movie ever. Terry Stetler ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Mitchell To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:45 PM Subject: [Fot] LeMans Movie alert: Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. Doug _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html http://www.fot-racing.com Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From andre at gt6.ca Thu Dec 18 10:51:52 2008 From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:51:52 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LeMans In-Reply-To: References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4362ae390812180951u216be08ajc9ed200a360c98b2@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, I mean when was the last time you saw a movie with almost ZERO dialog for 15mins. Love that movie so much I have this in my basement. http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/gallery/02-05-05/slides/IMG_3198.JPG http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/diy-posterbox/images/lightbox.gif A. 2008/12/18 Terry Stetler : > Best racing movie ever. > > Terry Stetler > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Doug Mitchell > To: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:45 PM > Subject: [Fot] LeMans > > > Movie alert: > > Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. > > Doug > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net > http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot stinfo/fot> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > -- Andre Rousseau - andre at gt6.ca '68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/ Ottawa, ON, Canada From budscars at comcast.net Thu Dec 18 11:06:53 2008 From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:06:53 -0800 Subject: [Fot] LeMans References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4362ae390812180951u216be08ajc9ed200a360c98b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I've got an old LP of Lemans that I play as background music while I'm cooking my Racer Bud Pasta..(it's warped but doesn't skip)..(the record, not the pasta or racer Bud)..Another good sound track is 'A MAN AND A WOMAN' Racer Bud..spitfire #21 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andre Rousseau" To: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] LeMans > Yeah, I mean when was the last time you saw a movie with almost ZERO > dialog for 15mins. > > Love that movie so much I have this in my basement. > > http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/gallery/02-05-05/slides/IMG_3198.JPG > > http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/diy-posterbox/images/lightbox.gif > > A. > > 2008/12/18 Terry Stetler : >> Best racing movie ever. >> >> Terry Stetler >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Doug Mitchell >> To: fot at autox.team.net >> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:45 PM >> Subject: [Fot] LeMans >> >> >> Movie alert: >> >> Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. >> >> Doug >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net >> http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Fot mailing list >> Fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot> stinfo/fot> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Fot mailing list >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> > > > > -- > Andre Rousseau - andre at gt6.ca > '68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/ > Ottawa, ON, Canada > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From andre at gt6.ca Thu Dec 18 11:13:26 2008 From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:13:26 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LeMans In-Reply-To: References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4362ae390812180951u216be08ajc9ed200a360c98b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4362ae390812181013k448e06c8ic72bebdd3cb2183@mail.gmail.com> I love my DVD copy... 5.1 one oh baby. A. 2008/12/18 RACER BUD : > I've got an old LP of Lemans that I play as background music while I'm > cooking my Racer Bud Pasta..(it's warped but doesn't skip)..(the record, not > the pasta or racer Bud)..Another good sound track is 'A MAN AND A WOMAN' > Racer Bud..spitfire #21 > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andre Rousseau" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:51 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] LeMans > > >> Yeah, I mean when was the last time you saw a movie with almost ZERO >> dialog for 15mins. >> >> Love that movie so much I have this in my basement. >> >> http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/gallery/02-05-05/slides/IMG_3198.JPG >> >> http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/diy-posterbox/images/lightbox.gif >> >> A. >> >> 2008/12/18 Terry Stetler : >>> >>> Best racing movie ever. >>> >>> Terry Stetler >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Doug Mitchell >>> To: fot at autox.team.net >>> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:45 PM >>> Subject: [Fot] LeMans >>> >>> >>> Movie alert: >>> >>> Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. >>> >>> Doug >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net >>> http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Fot mailing list >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot>> stinfo/fot> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Fot mailing list >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Andre Rousseau - andre at gt6.ca >> '68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/ >> Ottawa, ON, Canada >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Fot mailing list >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> > > -- Andre Rousseau - andre at gt6.ca '68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/ Ottawa, ON, Canada From colordog.1 at earthlink.net Thu Dec 18 11:38:44 2008 From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (steve belfer) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:38:44 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Between race and trackside maintence Message-ID: <632719001-1229625572-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1966631242-@bxe296.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> How often do you do the following? Change the oil and filter. Replace rusty radiator water Gap Plugs Replace Plugs Adj. Valves Adj. Points. Adj SU carbs Inspect main bearings. Rebuild motor Steve Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From N197TR4 at cs.com Thu Dec 18 11:43:31 2008 From: N197TR4 at cs.com (N197TR4 at cs.com) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:43:31 EST Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? Message-ID: This should be easy, eh? I need to get a coil for the AMBRO. I think the one on the TR4 #197 is something I got from O'Reilly Auto Parts. Thanks From Billb at bnj.com Thu Dec 18 11:54:43 2008 From: Billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:54:43 -1000 Subject: [Fot] Between race and trackside maintence In-Reply-To: <632719001-1229625572-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1966631242-@bxe296.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <632719001-1229625572-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1966631242-@bxe296.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <6C50A3CD-4568-4553-97B5-72D204E06293@bnj.com> You missed: Leakdown test --every few race weekends Check brakes every race weekend Check wheel bearings --every few race weekends check ball joints, heim joints, nut and bolt -- every race weekend. I'm generally a lot less interested in the motor than I am in the mechanical condition of the car. I don't rely on tech inspection to catch these things, it's much too variable. On Dec 18, 2008, at 8:38 AM, steve belfer wrote: > How often do you do the following? > > Change the oil and filter. Pretty much every two race weekends > > Replace rusty radiator water . Whenever I pull the head off > > Gap Plugs. Rarely > > Replace Plugs. Rarely > > Adj. Valves Check once per race weekend, adjust as needed > > Adj. Points. Almost never > > Adj SU carbs Webers--do an occasional sync check > > Inspect main bearings. Once a season--center main only > > Rebuild motor As needed--probably every two seasons > > > Steve > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > Bill Babcock Babcock & Jenkins Billb at bnj.com 503.936.7660 www.bnj.com Editor Ke Nalu e-Magazine Paddlesurfing's Web Journal Bill at kenalu.com www.kenalu.com blog: www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog From Billb at bnj.com Thu Dec 18 11:55:53 2008 From: Billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:55:53 -1000 Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <800C47DD-C132-4C20-B22B-C16433BD6BC3@bnj.com> I'd go to the same source. Cheap coils work fine. I bet they are all made in the same plant somewhere in India or Mexico. On Dec 18, 2008, at 8:43 AM, N197TR4 at cs.com wrote: > This should be easy, eh? > > I need to get a coil for the AMBRO. > > I think the one on the TR4 #197 is something I got from O'Reilly > Auto Parts. > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > Bill Babcock Babcock & Jenkins Billb at bnj.com 503.936.7660 www.bnj.com Editor Ke Nalu e-Magazine Paddlesurfing's Web Journal Bill at kenalu.com www.kenalu.com blog: www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog From spitlist at cox.net Thu Dec 18 12:42:28 2008 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:42:28 -0700 Subject: [Fot] LeMans In-Reply-To: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <69CC1DAB5D5744F385821C91846ED091@newcomputer> I discovered it this morning and set my DVR to record. Joe. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Doug Mitchell Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:45 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] LeMans Movie alert: Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. Doug Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From herald948 at aol.com Thu Dec 18 13:03:37 2008 From: herald948 at aol.com (Andrew Mace) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:03:37 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LeMans In-Reply-To: <4362ae390812180951u216be08ajc9ed200a360c98b2@mail.gmail.com> References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4362ae390812180951u216be08ajc9ed200a360c98b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CB2F62D914EE65-1170-267@WEBMAIL-DG05.sim.aol.com> -----Original Message----- From: Andre Rousseau Yeah, I mean when was the last time you saw a movie with almost ZERO dialog for 15mins. ==AM== Other than Mel Brooks' "Silent Movie," good point! :-) --Andy Mace *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant for The Vintage Triumph Register: http://www.vtr.org Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database at its new URL: http://triumph-herald.us From rocky at spitfire4.com Thu Dec 18 14:21:13 2008 From: rocky at spitfire4.com (Rocky Entriken) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:21:13 -0600 Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? References: <800C47DD-C132-4C20-B22B-C16433BD6BC3@bnj.com> Message-ID: <7A0E40974BF348729542231578BBFEF5@S1099895562> Cheap coils work fine if you have a cheap (stock) ignition system. I have a Lumenition electronic ignition on mine and a cheap coil won't drive it, so I also have a Lumenition coil. --Rocky Entriken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Babcock" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? > I'd go to the same source. Cheap coils work fine. I bet they are all > made in the same plant somewhere in India or Mexico. > > On Dec 18, 2008, at 8:43 AM, N197TR4 at cs.com wrote: > >> This should be easy, eh? >> >> I need to get a coil for the AMBRO. >> >> I think the one on the TR4 #197 is something I got from O'Reilly >> Auto Parts. >> >> Thanks >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Fot mailing list >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> > > Bill Babcock > Babcock & Jenkins > Billb at bnj.com > 503.936.7660 > www.bnj.com > > Editor > Ke Nalu e-Magazine > Paddlesurfing's Web Journal > > Bill at kenalu.com > www.kenalu.com > blog: www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From BillDentin at aol.com Thu Dec 18 14:54:02 2008 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:54:02 EST Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? Message-ID: In a message dated 12/18/2008 3:22:06 PM Central Standard Time, rocky at spitfire4.com writes: > Cheap coils work fine if you have a cheap (stock) ignition system. > > I have a Lumenition electronic ignition on mine and a cheap coil won't drive > > it, so I also have a Lumenition coil. > I always thought using a Lucas Sport Coil looked really British. Don't know if it was good or bad for a traditional ignition system though. But I always understood that the electronic ignition systems don't like the super/sport coils, but prefer the standard (cheap) coils. Any chance the Luminition coil is their way of seeing you don't use the 'super coil'? Bill Dentinger ************** One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp& icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) From william.tobin3 at verizon.net Thu Dec 18 16:17:35 2008 From: william.tobin3 at verizon.net (WILLIAM TOBIN) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:17:35 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LeMans References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003b01c96166$d0a60730$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> Hi all, I also like the movie, have a copy. But I also like Grand Prix; anything with James Garner and EM Saint can't be all bad. Also if you look closely, you'll see some of the real GP drivers of the day in some shots. Good soundtrack also. I haven't seen it yet but am told The World's Fastest Indian is also very good. Merry Christmas, Bill----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Mitchell" To: Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:45 PM Subject: [Fot] LeMans > Movie alert: > > Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. > > Doug > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From vintage.racer at comcast.net Thu Dec 18 16:52:53 2008 From: vintage.racer at comcast.net (Gary Horstkorta) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:52:53 -0800 Subject: [Fot] LeMans In-Reply-To: <003b01c96166$d0a60730$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <003b01c96166$d0a60730$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> Message-ID: <000701c9616b$bed07fe0$3c717fa0$@racer@comcast.net> Bill: I agree with both your cinematic choices and "The World's Fastest Indian" is quite good as well although it really condenses his life story. Read the book or get the DVD (includes extra material) to get the full extent of his amazing life. He certainly lived it to the fullest and on his own terms. Gary -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WILLIAM TOBIN Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 3:18 PM To: Doug Mitchell; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] LeMans Hi all, I also like the movie, have a copy. But I also like Grand Prix; anything with James Garner and EM Saint can't be all bad. Also if you look closely, you'll see some of the real GP drivers of the day in some shots. Good soundtrack also. I haven't seen it yet but am told The World's Fastest Indian is also very good. Merry Christmas, Bill----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Mitchell" To: Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:45 PM Subject: [Fot] LeMans > Movie alert: > > Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. > > Doug > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From spitlist at cox.net Thu Dec 18 17:04:37 2008 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:04:37 -0700 Subject: [Fot] LeMans In-Reply-To: <000701c9616b$bed07fe0$3c717fa0$@racer@comcast.net> References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com><003b01c96166$d0a60730$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> <000701c9616b$bed07fe0$3c717fa0$@racer@comcast.net> Message-ID: <29519FEEBC574A8780AD45AC21E1649D@newcomputer> I couldn't agree more on the Indian story. Joe C. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Horstkorta Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 4:53 PM To: 'WILLIAM TOBIN'; 'Doug Mitchell'; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] LeMans Bill: I agree with both your cinematic choices and "The World's Fastest Indian" is quite good as well although it really condenses his life story. Read the book or get the DVD (includes extra material) to get the full extent of his amazing life. He certainly lived it to the fullest and on his own terms. Gary -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WILLIAM TOBIN Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 3:18 PM To: Doug Mitchell; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] LeMans Hi all, I also like the movie, have a copy. But I also like Grand Prix; anything with James Garner and EM Saint can't be all bad. Also if you look closely, you'll see some of the real GP drivers of the day in some shots. Good soundtrack also. I haven't seen it yet but am told The World's Fastest Indian is also very good. Merry Christmas, Bill----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Mitchell" To: Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:45 PM Subject: [Fot] LeMans > Movie alert: > > Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. > > Doug > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From stutzmans at comcast.net Thu Dec 18 17:16:58 2008 From: stutzmans at comcast.net (Stutzman) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:16:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? References: Message-ID: <005501c9616f$1b8f9ab0$c80aa8c0@D9DGQM31> rule of thumb - stock engine - stock coil hot engine - sport coil or equivelant Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; Cc: Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? > In a message dated 12/18/2008 3:22:06 PM Central Standard Time, > rocky at spitfire4.com writes: > > >> Cheap coils work fine if you have a cheap (stock) ignition system. >> >> I have a Lumenition electronic ignition on mine and a cheap coil won't >> drive >> >> it, so I also have a Lumenition coil. >> > > I always thought using a Lucas Sport Coil looked really British. Don't > know > if it was good or bad for a traditional ignition system though. > > But I always understood that the electronic ignition systems don't like > the > super/sport coils, but prefer the standard (cheap) coils. Any chance the > Luminition coil is their way of seeing you don't use the 'super coil'? > > Bill Dentinger > > > > ************** > One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, > Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp& > icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From jmwagner at greenheart.com Thu Dec 18 20:30:35 2008 From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:30:35 -0800 Subject: [Fot] triumph Spitfire race car - $4800 (Palos Verdes Peninsula) Message-ID: <494B155B.8040202@greenheart.com> saw this on craigslist.... Triumph Spitfire race car - $4800 (Palos Verdes Peninsula) Reply to: sale-955842014 at craigslist.org [? ] Date: 2008-12-12, 5:01PM PST 1965 Triumph spitfire, frame off restoration over 70 % completed. New fuel cell,aluminum panels, seat, roll bar, reinforced frame and supporting structure, and other new parts through out, original revolution wheels, Kas Kasner parts, lightweight Bonnet and Deck lid. too much work that was done and parts to list Log book from mid 60's, vintage road racing eligible, or could be made street legal. Currently on rolling dolly. Great father/son or individual project. Must sell, great buy for someone who wants to get into vintage racing cheap, need the room. steve 310-600-9024 http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/955842014.html From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net Thu Dec 18 23:01:24 2008 From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:01:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <341492.73038.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Okay, at the risk of insulting everyone on the list, I use the Bosch Blue coil in everything I can. Just a favorite since I owned my first Bimmer. I haven't had a British car puke a German coil yet. -Ed- --- On Thu, 12/18/08, N197TR4 at cs.com wrote: From: N197TR4 at cs.com Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? To: fot at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 12:43 PM This should be easy, eh? I need to get a coil for the AMBRO. I think the one on the TR4 #197 is something I got from O'Reilly Auto Parts. Thanks Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From macdonaldp at rogers.com Fri Dec 19 10:15:18 2008 From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:15:18 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Tony A2z Message-ID: Check out this website foor great story and pictures. Early Group 44 pictures...(Dodge Dart) Page 46 Kas picture Lemans story and cars. Paul [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] From tr4racing at googlemail.com Sun Dec 21 03:46:45 2008 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:46:45 +0100 Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I use a BOSCH red colored coil with 30 KV output. This coil has an external resistor to fit to the TR4 and with the TR6 you can spoil the resistor because the TR6 has this resistor already fitted to the system. I use before that coil the blue Bosch but with the higher compression rate I thought it is time to move on to more power. Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von N197TR4 at cs.com Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Dezember 2008 19:44 An: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? This should be easy, eh? I need to get a coil for the AMBRO. I think the one on the TR4 #197 is something I got from O'Reilly Auto Parts. Thanks From dkettler at powercom.net Sun Dec 21 13:55:06 2008 From: dkettler at powercom.net (David Kettler) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 14:55:06 -0600 Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? References: Message-ID: <022D9BD408C441FA888529AA35F8AB2A@David> I have a stock engine/ignition system. I put in a Lucas Sport Coil about 4 years ago. The day before I was to drive 700 miles to Watkins Glen, the car didn't start. Traced it to the sport coil. Put in a used coil made in Israel which I've had laying around and it made the trip there and back without a problem. I'm not sure what I'm going to put in next. I'm leaning toward a stock Lucas coil. Dave Kettler 66TR4A ----- Original Message ----- From: "MadMarx" To: ; Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 4:46 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? >I use a BOSCH red colored coil with 30 KV output. This coil has an external > resistor to fit to the TR4 and with the TR6 you can spoil the resistor > because the TR6 has this resistor already fitted to the system. > > I use before that coil the blue Bosch but with the higher compression rate > I > thought it is time to move on to more power. > > Chris > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im > Auftrag von N197TR4 at cs.com > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Dezember 2008 19:44 > An: fot at autox.team.net > Betreff: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? > > This should be easy, eh? > > I need to get a coil for the AMBRO. > > I think the one on the TR4 #197 is something I got from O'Reilly Auto > Parts. > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From rocky at spitfire4.com Sun Dec 21 15:59:37 2008 From: rocky at spitfire4.com (Rocky Entriken) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:59:37 -0600 Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? References: <022D9BD408C441FA888529AA35F8AB2A@David> Message-ID: <6E47D2A920A7478DBC16BDD0ACFA53C9@S1099895562> Y'know, as much as we love our LBCs, it's amusing how many of us don't love Lord Lucas's accessories. Try an Accel or a Mallory or something off O'Reilly's shelf. Lord Lucas -- Prince of Darkness long before Ozzy Osborne Lord Lucas -- father of the intermittent wiper Why do British drink warm beer? Lucas refrigerators! I could go on.... :-) --Rocky Entriken ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Kettler" To: "MadMarx" ; ; Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? >I have a stock engine/ignition system. I put in a Lucas Sport Coil about 4 >years ago. The day before I was to drive 700 miles to Watkins Glen, the >car didn't start. Traced it to the sport coil. Put in a used coil made in >Israel which I've had laying around and it made the trip there and back >without a problem. > > I'm not sure what I'm going to put in next. I'm leaning toward a stock > Lucas coil. > > Dave Kettler > > 66TR4A > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MadMarx" > To: ; > Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 4:46 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? > > >>I use a BOSCH red colored coil with 30 KV output. This coil has an >>external >> resistor to fit to the TR4 and with the TR6 you can spoil the resistor >> because the TR6 has this resistor already fitted to the system. >> >> I use before that coil the blue Bosch but with the higher compression >> rate I >> thought it is time to move on to more power. >> >> Chris >> >> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im >> Auftrag von N197TR4 at cs.com >> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Dezember 2008 19:44 >> An: fot at autox.team.net >> Betreff: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? >> >> This should be easy, eh? >> >> I need to get a coil for the AMBRO. >> >> I think the one on the TR4 #197 is something I got from O'Reilly Auto >> Parts. >> >> Thanks >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Fot mailing list >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From triosan at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 19:37:39 2008 From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:37:39 -0800 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Need a TR6 4 speed mainshaft In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8cbd782d0812211837jf153613u80824c7b0eb0f349@mail.gmail.com> I have late 4 speed tranny that had a j-type od till the diff broke at maximum torque in 2nd gear -- resulted in chewing up the end of the main shaft and ruining the OD mechanicals. Built a new race car. [not cause the diff broke, still have that car -- it is for lapping days and spirited street driving, but not racing. The new car has about 200 hp at the wheels [I guess,given how it performed versus the one I had dynoed at 180]. IT came with Goodparts 4.08 Nissan rear end and a non-working a-type OD. I had to lift at 7000 in 4th. Blew the engine up [something weird in oiling to #6 rod bearing -- I have lots of oil tricks so it should not have happend --suspect FOD]. So, what I am doing is building a close ratio box in the old j-type tranny [which is why I needed the mainshaft of which I now have two]. I have swapped the 4.08 diff for a 3.5. That should make my top end a more reasonable 6500. The engine breathing and cam seem to make best torque and hp above 4500. Can hardly wait to get it all together again. Other things I am doing this year is installing a Quartermaster two disk clutch, an ATI fluid damper, main bearing strengthening kit [which includes a steel housing for the rear main bearing and a steel sealing block] and an aluminum sump. The last two come from Racestorations in the UK. I got them at $1.45 to the pound!. The aluminum pan is a work of art -- it is very much stiffer and holds more oil -- and includes a windage tray. Racestorations has another couple of really trick parts I will get next year. These include heim joints for the upper a-arms so you can adjust each independently -- will allow really dialing in camber and caster. The other neat trick is machining the trailing arm and installing bearings instead of the bushings. http://www.racetorations.co.uk/catbend.html Chuck Happy racing! On 12/21/08, MMoore8425 at aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 12/14/2008 11:55:28 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > triosan at gmail.com writes: > > Anyone have a later tranny TR6 main shaft they would like to sell? > Someone > who converted their 4 speed to OD would be a good candidate.Thanks, > > > > > Have you found your mainshaft? > > Where are you? > > Thanks > Mike Moore > > Engineering Manager > CL Moore & Associates, Inc. > 17590 Holiday Drive, Morgan Hill, > California 95037 > 408-782-1272 fax 408-782-1372 > **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, > Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) > -- Chuck Arnold From Billb at bnj.com Sun Dec 21 21:47:01 2008 From: Billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:47:01 -1000 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Need a TR6 4 speed mainshaft In-Reply-To: <8cbd782d0812211837jf153613u80824c7b0eb0f349@mail.gmail.com> References: <8cbd782d0812211837jf153613u80824c7b0eb0f349@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Take it easy with dialing in caster--you'll put a bind in the lower pivot. And talk to Garmey--he has prettier parts for the upper arms than Heim joints. On Dec 21, 2008, at 4:37 PM, Chuck Arnold wrote: > I have late 4 speed tranny that had a j-type od till the diff broke at > maximum torque in 2nd gear -- resulted in chewing up the end of the > main shaft and ruining the OD mechanicals. Built a new race car. > [not cause the diff broke, still have that car -- it is for lapping > days and spirited street driving, but not racing. The new car has > about 200 hp at the wheels [I guess,given how it performed versus the > one I had dynoed at 180]. IT came with Goodparts 4.08 Nissan rear end > and a non-working a-type OD. I had to lift at 7000 in 4th. Blew the > engine up [something weird in oiling to #6 rod bearing -- I have lots > of oil tricks so it should not have happend --suspect FOD]. > > So, what I am doing is building a close ratio box in the old j-type > tranny [which is why I needed the mainshaft of which I now have two]. > I have swapped the 4.08 diff for a 3.5. That should make my top end a > more reasonable 6500. The engine breathing and cam seem to make best > torque and hp above 4500. Can hardly wait to get it all together > again. Other things I am doing this year is installing a Quartermaster > two disk clutch, an ATI fluid damper, main bearing strengthening kit > [which includes a steel housing for the rear main bearing and a steel > sealing block] and an aluminum sump. The last two come from > Racestorations in the UK. I got them at $1.45 to the pound!. The > aluminum pan is a work of art -- it is very much stiffer and holds > more oil -- and includes a windage tray. > > Racestorations has another couple of really trick parts I will get > next year. These include heim joints for the upper a-arms so you can > adjust each independently -- will allow really dialing in camber and > caster. The other neat trick is machining the trailing arm and > installing bearings instead of the bushings. > > http://www.racetorations.co.uk/catbend.html > > Chuck > Happy racing! > > > > On 12/21/08, MMoore8425 at aol.com wrote: >> >> >> In a message dated 12/14/2008 11:55:28 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> triosan at gmail.com writes: >> >> Anyone have a later tranny TR6 main shaft they would like to sell? >> Someone >> who converted their 4 speed to OD would be a good candidate.Thanks, >> >> >> >> >> Have you found your mainshaft? >> >> Where are you? >> >> Thanks >> Mike Moore >> >> Engineering Manager >> CL Moore & Associates, Inc. >> 17590 Holiday Drive, Morgan Hill, >> California 95037 >> 408-782-1272 fax 408-782-1372 >> **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL >> Mail, >> Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. >> (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025 >> ) >> > > > -- > Chuck Arnold > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > Bill Babcock Babcock & Jenkins Billb at bnj.com 503.936.7660 www.bnj.com Editor Ke Nalu e-Magazine Paddlesurfing's Web Journal Bill at kenalu.com www.kenalu.com blog: www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog From macdonaldp at rogers.com Mon Dec 22 07:35:16 2008 From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:35:16 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR6 Race Car Message-ID: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=330295581 315&ih=014&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem= Just saw this on Ebay...NFI. Paul [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] From budscars at comcast.net Mon Dec 22 13:33:33 2008 From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:33:33 -0800 Subject: [Fot] 1970 SPITFIRE FOR SALE..NEAR SACRAMENTO, CA Message-ID: <812E97F9907C449287EEA453712CEBAE@Bud> Hi gang...1970 spitfire for sale runs and drives...needs seats 1600.00...contact James Long at blackbox1966 at yahoo.com Racer bud..spitfire #21 From jmwagner at greenheart.com Mon Dec 22 19:20:30 2008 From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:20:30 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Triumph Spitfire race car - $4800 (Palos Verdes Peninsula) Message-ID: <49504AEE.3080001@greenheart.com> Just ran across this on Craigslist, thought I'd pass it along... --Justin Triumph Spitfire race car - $4800 (Palos Verdes Peninsula) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Reply to: sale-965661655 at craigslist.org [? ] Date: 2008-12-20, 9:02PM PST 1965 triumph spitfire race car under restoration,currently about 70 % completed, frame off restoration. Has SCCA race history, last raced June 1977 and log book. Many new parts including fuel cell, fire system, paint, aluminum interior work, has original revolution wheels, kas kassner parts, Light weight bonnet and rear deck lid. New roll bar which reinforces front and trar suspension and side impact protection. New racing windscreen etc. Great entry race car and easy restoration project. $ 4800.00 Steve 310-600-9024 http://images.craigslist.org/11a1f71383n23k73p48cke2a78b81c0c51a9d.jpg http://images.craigslist.org/1f01291gd3m13p83o78cka4dc8de12973148d.jpg http://images.craigslist.org/1f21271333ne3m33oa8ckb9fbca772f0e15d7.jpg * Location: Palos Verdes Peninsula From Guyots3 at wmconnect.com Mon Dec 22 20:36:51 2008 From: Guyots3 at wmconnect.com (Guyots3 at wmconnect.com) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:36:51 EST Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? Message-ID: In a message dated 12/21/2008 11:00:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, fot-request at autox.team.net writes: > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:46:45 +0100 > From: "MadMarx" > Subject: Re: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? > To: , > Message-ID: > !AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAADB609xTkH9Aiiet8z0UXpTCgAAAEAAAAOANABddDrRNpAbLO0GPahgBAAAAAA==@googlemail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I use a BOSCH red colored coil with 30 KV output. This coil has an external > resistor to fit to the TR4 and with the TR6 you can spoil the resistor > because the TR6 has this resistor already fitted to the system. > > I use before that coil the blue Bosch but with the higher compression rate I > thought it is time to move on to more power. > > Chris Hi Chris, We have just been having a discussion about coils on another forum. Some people favour the Bosch Red Coil over their Blue one, but I have an MSD Digital 6 Plus box and have to use a low resistance coil so will be using an MSD coil specifically designed for that application. MSD offer some awesome coils, I have NFI. Anyhow, here is a link to the forum thread. http://www.sideways-technologies.co.uk/forum/Blah.pl?m-1228840211/s-39/highlig ht-coil/#num39 Chris, I think you should join that forum, you could get some very useful information there. Best Regards Leon F Guyot From Billbab at mac.com Mon Dec 22 20:40:02 2008 From: Billbab at mac.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:40:02 -1000 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: [TR] Need a TR6 4 speed mainshaft References: Message-ID: <62D6A50A-5756-4964-BD28-797C05532756@mac.com> Oops, bounced--too long Begin forwarded message: > Tony Garmey, Horizon racing. First class fabricator, race car > restorer/builder and all around hot shoe. He did the great looking > nose on Peyote last year. Also maintains Bill Hart's cars including > the TR250K. I cc'ed him on this message in case you'd like to get in > touch with him. Great guy, does fantastic work, reasonable. > > > On Dec 22, 2008, at 5:07 PM, Allen Washatko wrote: > >> Bill, >> >> Who is Garmey? >> >> Allen >> >> On Dec 21, 2008, at 10:47 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: >> >>> Take it easy with dialing in caster--you'll put a bind in the lower >>> pivot. And talk to Garmey--he has prettier parts for the upper arms >>> than Heim joints. From tr4racing at googlemail.com Tue Dec 23 09:20:30 2008 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:20:30 +0100 Subject: [Fot] WG: I have a question...what is your favorite coil? Message-ID: The reason for the BOSCH coil isit works perfect with all the ignition systems on the market. Friends of mine used Flamethrower and other special coils that are recommended for the specific ignition systems but after some races these coils caused trouble. After installing the red BOSCH they worked. Im always after reliable parts so a coil that can be used with all ignition systems is an advantage I suppose. I only killed one blue BOSCH after I forgot to switch off the ign and left it burning for some hours. Good to have fuses in the circuit. Cheers Chris Von: Guyots3 at wmconnect.com [mailto:Guyots3 at wmconnect.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. Dezember 2008 04:37 An: fot at autox.team.net Cc: tr4racing at googlemail.com Betreff: Re: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? In a message dated 12/21/2008 11:00:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, fot-request at autox.team.net writes: Message: 1 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:46:45 +0100 From: "MadMarx" Subject: Re: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? To: , Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I use a BOSCH red colored coil with 30 KV output. This coil has an external resistor to fit to the TR4 and with the TR6 you can spoil the resistor because the TR6 has this resistor already fitted to the system. I use before that coil the blue Bosch but with the higher compression rate I thought it is time to move on to more power. Chris Hi Chris, We have just been having a discussion about coils on another forum. Some people favour the Bosch Red Coil over their Blue one, but I have an MSD Digital 6 Plus box and have to use a low resistance coil so will be using an MSD coil specifically designed for that application. MSD offer some awesome coils, I have NFI. Anyhow, here is a link to the forum thread. http://www.sideways-technologies.co.uk/forum/Blah.pl?m-1228840211/s-39/highl ight-coil/#num39 Chris, I think you should join that forum, you could get some very useful information there. Best Regards Leon F Guyot From trmarty at hotmail.com Wed Dec 24 09:27:38 2008 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:27:38 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Leo Oddi Message-ID: Leo, if your out there could you drop me an email so I can snag your e-address? thanks, Marty _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. http://windowslive.com/oneline/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_anywhere _122008 From rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com Thu Dec 25 05:34:55 2008 From: rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com (Bob) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 07:34:55 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR6 gearbox Message-ID: <49537DEF.8070709@cfl.rr.com> There was a recent post on FOT looking for a (I think) gearbox main shaft. There is one on ebay. Item number is 220332935903. Bob From klynch_6 at msn.com Thu Dec 25 12:49:46 2008 From: klynch_6 at msn.com (KEVIN LYNCH) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:49:46 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Dec. 25th Message-ID: Want to wish the group a very Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah...etc. The very best to you & yours in the coming year! Kev Lynch Colo. From budscars at comcast.net Thu Dec 25 12:57:30 2008 From: budscars at comcast.net (budscars at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:57:30 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Dec. 25th Message-ID: <380-220081242519573049@M2W017.mail2web.com> Thanks Kevin..and Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to All Racer Bud..Spitfire #21...(Santa didn't put my tranny in for me) Original Message: ----------------- From: KEVIN LYNCH klynch_6 at msn.com Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:49:46 -0700 To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Dec. 25th Want to wish the group a very Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah...etc. The very best to you & yours in the coming year! Kev Lynch Colo. Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - Microsoft. Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange From mark at bradakis.com Thu Dec 25 13:50:19 2008 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:50:19 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Off for the weekend Message-ID: <4953F20B.4070105@bradakis.com> Karen and I will be heading out to the airport soon, flying to Phoenix to spend some time with relatives. We should be back sunday night. The servers have been behaving, I'm anticipating only one problem. We have a big storm moving into SLC this evening. If the power goes out for longer than the UPS can handle it, the servers may not come back up cleanly, and Team.Net could be off the air until I get back to fix it. Hopefully there will be no interruption. Have a pleasant weekend. mjb. From budscars at comcast.net Thu Dec 25 15:16:47 2008 From: budscars at comcast.net (budscars at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 17:16:47 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Off for the weekend Message-ID: <380-2200812425221647296@M2W002.mail2web.com> thanks Mark...and thanks for 'running the show' for us Racer Bud Original Message: ----------------- From: Mark J Bradakis mark at bradakis.com Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:50:19 -0700 To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Off for the weekend Karen and I will be heading out to the airport soon, flying to Phoenix to spend some time with relatives. We should be back sunday night. The servers have been behaving, I'm anticipating only one problem. We have a big storm moving into SLC this evening. If the power goes out for longer than the UPS can handle it, the servers may not come back up cleanly, and Team.Net could be off the air until I get back to fix it. Hopefully there will be no interruption. Have a pleasant weekend. mjb. Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft. Windows. and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting From billsohl at optonline.net Fri Dec 26 15:16:55 2008 From: billsohl at optonline.net (Bill Sohl) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:16:55 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LeMans In-Reply-To: <4362ae390812180951u216be08ajc9ed200a360c98b2@mail.gmail.com> References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4362ae390812180951u216be08ajc9ed200a360c98b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Andre, Great basement decor. Where's you find the wallpaper border that is at the top of the walls? Cheers Bill Sohl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andre Rousseau" To: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] LeMans > Yeah, I mean when was the last time you saw a movie with almost ZERO > dialog for 15mins. > > Love that movie so much I have this in my basement. > > http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/gallery/02-05-05/slides/IMG_3198.JPG > > http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/diy-posterbox/images/lightbox.gif > > A. > > 2008/12/18 Terry Stetler : >> Best racing movie ever. >> >> Terry Stetler >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Doug Mitchell >> To: fot at autox.team.net >> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:45 PM >> Subject: [Fot] LeMans >> >> >> Movie alert: >> >> Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. >> >> Doug >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net >> http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Fot mailing list >> Fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot> stinfo/fot> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Fot mailing list >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> > > > > -- > Andre Rousseau - andre at gt6.ca > '68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/ > Ottawa, ON, Canada > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From andre at gt6.ca Fri Dec 26 15:40:22 2008 From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:40:22 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LeMans In-Reply-To: References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4362ae390812180951u216be08ajc9ed200a360c98b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4362ae390812261440p2e4388aerfe4d5c897a9114ed@mail.gmail.com> Ha, Hi Bill we got that Home Depot back in 2002! The latest Triumph in my ah... Stable.. A Stag. http://temp.justdrive.ca/IMG_1345.jpg 2008/12/26 Bill Sohl : > Andre, > > Great basement decor. > > Where's you find the wallpaper border that is at the top of the walls? > > Cheers > Bill Sohl > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andre Rousseau" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:51 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] LeMans > > >> Yeah, I mean when was the last time you saw a movie with almost ZERO >> dialog for 15mins. >> >> Love that movie so much I have this in my basement. >> >> http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/gallery/02-05-05/slides/IMG_3198.JPG >> >> http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/diy-posterbox/images/lightbox.gif >> >> A. >> >> 2008/12/18 Terry Stetler : >>> >>> Best racing movie ever. >>> >>> Terry Stetler >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Doug Mitchell >>> To: fot at autox.team.net >>> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:45 PM >>> Subject: [Fot] LeMans >>> >>> >>> Movie alert: >>> >>> Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. >>> >>> Doug >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net >>> http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Fot mailing list >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot>> stinfo/fot> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Fot mailing list >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Andre Rousseau - andre at gt6.ca >> '68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/ >> Ottawa, ON, Canada >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Fot mailing list >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> > > -- Andre Rousseau - andre at gt6.ca '68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/ Ottawa, ON, Canada From rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com Sat Dec 27 09:02:58 2008 From: rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com (Bob) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:02:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] OD shift knob Message-ID: <495651B2.6070405@cfl.rr.com> Anyone have a Spitfire or GT6 (or even an MGB) overdrive shift knob they would like to sell? thxx, Bob From dave at microworks.net Sun Dec 28 00:46:45 2008 From: dave at microworks.net (David W. Riddle) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:46:45 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Cool video from Firebird Message-ID: <20081228074649.XOGJ131.fed1rmmtao107.cox.net@fed1rmimpo03.cox.net> This weekend I did a complete makeover of our Kart groups website. This evening I put an edited video of two shifters with on-board cameras passing/repassing on Firebird's West track that was shot on the 20th. Enjoy... http://www.southwestkarters.com/ From andre at gt6.ca Sun Dec 28 20:01:53 2008 From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 22:01:53 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Anyone got... Message-ID: Hey anyone buy the cd from the photo guy at the Glen this yr? He captured 2 shots of my GT6, which I would love. Thanks. A. -- Andre Rousseau - andre at gt6.ca '68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/ Ottawa, ON, Canada From walt at hot-tr6.com Tue Dec 30 09:34:40 2008 From: walt at hot-tr6.com (Walter Hollowell) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:34:40 -0700 Subject: [Fot] U-Joints. Spicer Message-ID: <20081230163455.A2FBC187660@autox.team.net> For my TR6 racecar with a Quaife limited I prefer to use Spicer 5-4x u-joints. These Spicer units seem to hold up while the NAPA 344 and Neacpo 1-0005 (China made) tend to grenade. My Spicer source tells me the 5-4x is an obsolete part and will soon no longer be available. Do any other FOT members no of a strong U-joint for a TR6 you can recommend? Thank You Walt Hollowell Abq., NM _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter We are a community of 5.8 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 29027 of my spam emails to date. The Professional version does not have this message From triosan at gmail.com Tue Dec 30 09:50:14 2008 From: triosan at gmail.com (triosan at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:50:14 +0000 Subject: [Fot] U-Joints. Spicer Message-ID: Try goodparts.com ------Original Message------ From: Walter Hollowell Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] U-Joints. Spicer Sent: Dec 30, 2008 8:34 AM For my TR6 racecar with a Quaife limited I prefer to use Spicer 5-4x u-joints. These Spicer units seem to hold up while the NAPA 344 and Neacpo 1-0005 (China made) tend to grenade. My Spicer source tells me the 5-4x is an obsolete part and will soon no longer be available. Do any other FOT members no of a strong U-joint for a TR6 you can recommend? Thank You Walt Hollowell Abq., NM _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter We are a community of 5.8 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 29027 of my spam emails to date. The Professional version does not have this message _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html http://www.fot-racing.com Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Sent from my BlackBerry. smartphone with SprintSpeed From tr4racing at googlemail.com Tue Dec 30 12:00:23 2008 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:00:23 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Nuerburgring Nordschleife 400 km race In-Reply-To: <2B52E8650115BB4085979C721A085AD40A3CFC@server.Triumph.local> References: <2B52E8650115BB4085979C721A085AD40A3CFC@server.Triumph.local> Message-ID: <001201c96ab0$df120be0$9d3623a0$@com> Now...how about some photos that show cavitation of the rotor of the water pump. 128-5394.jpg 128-5391.jpg 128-5392.jpg As you can see, the wheel is in good condition but on the low pressure side of the wings there are typical signs of cavitation. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Henry Frye [mailto:henry at henryfrye.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Oktober 2008 19:54 An: MadMarx; fot at autox.team.net Betreff: RE: [Fot] Nuerburgring Nordschleife 400 km race Chris, With the parts on the race car, exact measurements are difficult to get at the moment. I am running the second generation harmonic balancer kit from Ken Gillanders. I believe he gets them from the UK. Ken, do you know what the sizes of those pulleys are? If you expect cavitation, it would be easy to hook up a pressure gauge as I described below. The purpose built water pressure gauge died, so I replaced it with an oil pressure gauge I had laying about, it works fine. Pressure is pressure... On your next race out you can watch the gauge to see if there is any drop at high revs. Mine does not. > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of MadMarx > Sent: October 02, 2008 10:06 AM > To: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Nuerburgring Nordschleife 400 km race > > Henry, > > can you tell me the sizes of your crank and water pump pulleys? > I have the stock water pump with that sharp edged impeller. I > really suspect the impeller to cavitating when turning longer > at high revs. I hold 6000 for about 30-40 seconds in on go. > > Chris > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Henry Frye [mailto:henry at henryfrye.com] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. Oktober 2008 13:55 > An: MadMarx > Betreff: RE: [Fot] Nuerburgring Nordschleife 400 km race > > Are you running a stock water pump with a stock pulley? If > so, I find it hard to believe it was cavitating with only 1/2 > liter of water loss. > > I run the narrow belt conversion, the water pump pulley is > very close to stock, in not stock size, and run to 7000+ with > a very aggressive water pump impeller and have no cavitation > issues. I have a water pressure gauge plumbed into the block > drain port at the rear of the block and it will show over 30 > pounds per square inch of pressure at max RPM. > > I routinely lose about that much water every session, I > believe most it goes into the overflow. If I do not check the > water until the engine is completely cool most of it returns > from the overflow bottle. > > Sorry your weekend was more fuss than racing. We all have them... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: MadMarxt > > Subject: Re: [Fot] Nuerburgring Nordschleife 400 km race > > > > Now the thread was burried down in the block. End of > race - I thought > > but after I told my hotelier about the misfit he invented a > head stud > > extractor while I had breakfast. With that tool it took 10 > minutes to > > get that thread part out. > > > > A half a liter water was forced out - nothing else. > > I suppose that the water pump is spinning too fast at > 6000 and start > > cavitating which cause the water loss. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image002.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image003.jpg] From william.tobin3 at verizon.net Tue Dec 30 18:56:12 2008 From: william.tobin3 at verizon.net (WILLIAM TOBIN) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:56:12 -0500 Subject: [Fot] U-Joints. Spicer References: <20081230163455.A2FBC187660@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <00bf01c96aea$fa1ac640$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> Hi, you might also try Ted Schumacher at TSI; he has some HD u-joints. 800 543-6648 Usual disclaimer: no financial interest. Happy New Year, Bill----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter Hollowell" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 11:34 AM Subject: [Fot] U-Joints. Spicer > For my TR6 racecar with a Quaife limited I prefer to use Spicer 5-4x > u-joints. These Spicer units seem to hold up while the NAPA 344 and Neacpo > 1-0005 (China made) > tend to grenade. My Spicer source tells me the 5-4x is an obsolete part and > will soon no longer be available. Do any other FOT members no of a strong > U-joint for a TR6 you can recommend? > Thank You > Walt Hollowell > Abq., NM > > _____ > > I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter > We are a community of 5.8 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 29027 of my spam emails to date. > The Professional version does not have this message > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From colordog.1 at earthlink.net Tue Dec 30 20:49:19 2008 From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (Steven Belfer) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:49:19 -0800 Subject: [Fot] When do you replace a rubber lip seal? Message-ID: <83E4150B-5088-4E72-B92D-30548CB32DC8@earthlink.net> I'm rebuilding a TR3 motor with 20 races on it. I know that's a lot. It's back from the shop and ready to put back together. It's got one of those rubber lip seal conversions. It didn't leak more than it's supposed to, ha ha. Is this lip seal a part that should be replaced? Now would be the right time to do it but it looks good and I'm on the fence between putting it back in the car and getting a new one. I've heard there are two types of these seals. How do I know which one I've got? There aren't any markings on it. So... A, can these things last 20 years? B, What should I measure to figure out what I've got C, Who sells the best ones? ~Steve From dave at microworks.net Tue Dec 30 23:02:21 2008 From: dave at microworks.net (David W. Riddle) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:02:21 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Mustang Challenge Message-ID: <20081231060237.JLDM2948.fed1rmmtao101.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> I finally saw an episode (Round 1 @ Road Atlanta and Round 2 @ Mosport) of that Mustang Challenge show on HD Theater, "Why We Race". Must say that it sure looks like most of the drivers in that series pretty much SUCK. The young, under funded, heavy set kid from Washington State that won both of those races certainly looks to be smooth, controlled and precise behind the wheel. Based on the profile they highlighted him with I would put it down to him starting in Karts and then when he moved to cars it was driving a Miata. Vehicles that you have to be smooth and controlled in. They did not highlight the background on the other drivers but I would be willing to bet that most did not cut their teeth in low horse-powered momentum type cars. Probably like quite a few students I have that come out to the track for their first DE day and start talking about getting a powerful car and getting their race license. They don't want to hear my advice that they get a Miata or a 944 first to learn the craft. Lots of carnage, loose cars, low percentage passes. There was even one moron on the radio to his crew talking about whether or not he should pass his teammate under the FCY sincd there would only be a few laps of green remaining! Sad to see so many cars wrecked for no reason. From BillDentin at aol.com Mon Dec 1 10:03:10 2008 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:03:10 EST Subject: [Fot] Side Glances (JAN 2009) Message-ID: Amici... I am sure we have more than a few Peter Egan fans on the FOT List. Peter was the Honorary Grand Marshall and Featured Banquet Speaker at the Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival at ROAD AMERICA a couple of months back. Austin Healey Sprite was the featured marque, and Mr. Egan has owned and raced more than his fair share. Team Thicko Flounder and premier Sprite owner Wm. Severin Thompson provided a Sprite named WALTER for Peter and wife Barb to use all week end. It was a really special car (UN-restored original racer from the Hey Day) still sporting tech stickers for the 50s and 60s. Peter's article embraces the car's innocence, purity, and the ton of memories it stirs in his heart. I like everything Peter Egan writes. At the end of the article he says, " Maybe in our constant club-racer quest to make our cars faster, safer, and 'more reliable' we pushed for changes that simply accelerated the rate of entropy. Every class of production racing does this, of course, until it finally brings on its own demise. Or metamorphoses into some generic, tube-framed parody of its form self, as "stock cars" have done." And, of course, I loved the classic Egan ending that reads, "So it was fun to drive WALTER just for the pure innocence of the thing; my first drive in a steroid free competition sports car. We were a little slower than the other vintage race cars, but we drove all weekend on the same head gasket. Something I've never tried before." Bill Dentinger ************** Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity& ncid=emlcntaolcom00000002) From Billb at bnj.com Mon Dec 1 11:08:20 2008 From: Billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 08:08:20 -1000 Subject: [Fot] Side Glances (JAN 2009) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1EA6E18F-47EF-405D-9F0D-6EEF1622C203@bnj.com> I too am a Peter Egan fan. Hard to understand the use of Entropy in this case, but I'm probably being too literal since I'm fighting the IQ-sapping nature of Maui by reading books on intercellular information exchange. Lots of entropy tossed around to balance those equations, and it throws me for a loop. Slow going and it makes me testy. I do think I'm losing my marbles. I spent the non-surfing parts of the last few days building a trailer to drag a 12 foot stand up paddle surfboard behind my motorcycle ( http://www.kenalu.com/). You might ask why, and the answer is "I have no idea". What I really need here is Susan's flame job Isetta with a big surfboard rack. The board would be much, much bigger than the car. Walter sounds like a real treasure. What issue is the article in? I'd like to read it. On Dec 1, 2008, at 7:03 AM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote: > Amici... > > I am sure we have more than a few Peter Egan fans on the FOT List. > Peter was > the Honorary Grand Marshall and Featured Banquet Speaker at the > Elkhart Lake > Vintage Festival at ROAD AMERICA a couple of months back. Austin > Healey > Sprite was the featured marque, and Mr. Egan has owned and raced > more than his fair > share. Team Thicko Flounder and premier Sprite owner Wm. Severin > Thompson > provided a Sprite named WALTER for Peter and wife Barb to use all > week end. It > was a really special car (UN-restored original racer from the Hey > Day) still > sporting tech stickers for the 50s and 60s. Peter's article > embraces the car's > innocence, purity, and the ton of memories it stirs in his heart. > > I like everything Peter Egan writes. At the end of the article he > says, " > Maybe in our constant club-racer quest to make our cars faster, > safer, and 'more > reliable' we pushed for changes that simply accelerated the rate of > entropy. > Every class of production racing does this, of course, until it > finally brings > on its own demise. Or metamorphoses into some generic, tube-framed > parody of > its form self, as "stock cars" have done." And, of course, I loved > the > classic Egan ending that reads, "So it was fun to drive WALTER just > for the pure > innocence of the thing; my first drive in a steroid free competition > sports > car. We were a little slower than the other vintage race cars, but > we drove all > weekend on the same head gasket. Something I've never tried before." > > Bill Dentinger From Billb at bnj.com Mon Dec 1 11:49:41 2008 From: Billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 08:49:41 -1000 Subject: [Fot] Side Glances (JAN 2009) In-Reply-To: <8CB21FA34E99EE6-584-31A@WEBMAIL-DY38.sysops.aol.com> References: <1EA6E18F-47EF-405D-9F0D-6EEF1622C203@bnj.com> <8CB21FA34E99EE6-584-31A@WEBMAIL-DY38.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Duh. FWIW, in thermodynamics, entropy is a measure of the randomness of a system, it's sort of the opposite of order. I use it as the reason why my garage is always messy--it's just entropy. Doesn't seem to work that well with Diane, but I think the theory has a certain elegance. In information theory it's kind of the opposite of order as well, though it's more like the amount of information that can't be accounted for because of randomness. As always, the textual definitions are vague while the equations are not. Given those definitions i really didn't get Peter's use of the term, except perhaps that fiddling with these cars diminishes the nature of what they originally were. Seems like we are mostly working against entropy, preventing the cars from turning into random piles of iron oxide. On Dec 1, 2008, at 8:31 AM, billdentin at aol.com wrote: > Walter sounds like a real treasure. What issue is the article in? > I'd like to read it. > > Bill... > > Hint...it's in the subject line of the email. > > I think you'll enjoy it. > > Incidentally...I had no idea what entropy meant...but could guess. > > Bill > > > Tis the season to save your money! Get the new AOL Holiday Toolbar > for money saving offers and gift ideas. Bill Babcock Babcock & Jenkins Billb at bnj.com 503.936.7660 www.bnj.com Editor Ke Nalu e-Magazine Paddlesurfing's Web Journal Bill at kenalu.com www.kenalu.com blog: www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog From walt at hot-tr6.com Tue Dec 2 19:57:26 2008 From: walt at hot-tr6.com (Walter Hollowell) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:57:26 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil pump Message-ID: <20081203025738.D9F6E187922@autox.team.net> Sorry to retrace old topics but I am up against a snag. I am building up a racing TR6 engine using an early block with a late model crank. The block is all decked, line bored etc. An aluminum late model oil pump housing interferes with the block inner wall. It appears that there is enough material to grind away the late model aluminum oil pump housing to allow it to fit but I am asking for advice as to how best to approach this issue. Any recommendations are appreciated. Thanks Walt Hollowell Abq., NM _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter We are a community of 5.7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 23827 of my spam emails to date. The Professional version does not have this message From gkbyrne at optushome.com.au Wed Dec 3 04:14:16 2008 From: gkbyrne at optushome.com.au (Geoff Byrne) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 22:14:16 +1100 Subject: [Fot] TR3 Crank Message-ID: Friends Does any have a used billet crank with scorred or damaged crank pins . One of our guys who races a TR3 has broken his crank but uses custom made rods with undersize big ends and needs another crank Geoff Byrne TR6 Racer Down Under From pvucinic at netspace.net.au Thu Dec 4 01:45:46 2008 From: pvucinic at netspace.net.au (Peter Vucinic) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:45:46 +1100 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Rocker Shaft Message-ID: Anyone on the list have a contact for good quality hardened rocker shafts for TR4 engine? Thanks. Kind Regards Peter Vucinic TR-4 Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From pvucinic at netspace.net.au Thu Dec 4 01:49:57 2008 From: pvucinic at netspace.net.au (Peter Vucinic) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:49:57 +1100 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Overdrive Badge Message-ID: Has anyone on the list seen early TR4's (1962) having a chrome badge, fitted to the left hand side of the trunk lid, saying Overdrive? Thanks Kind Regards Peter Vucinic TR-4 WORKS Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From malaboge at aol.com Thu Dec 4 10:19:40 2008 From: malaboge at aol.com (malaboge at aol.com) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:19:40 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Rocker Shaft In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CB244BA0039BE9-DA8-909@mblk-d48.sysops.aol.com> Peter- OK, it's personal opinion time here ... The TR4's don't usually have the same wear issue that our "longer" brothers do (6 cylinder cars), not to say that they do not wear out as the most certainly do, just not as quickly.? The little bronze (?) bushes in the rockers are much more labor intensive to replace than the shaft.? Especially in a race car, I would rather "get the shaft" than replace bushes, so I only use the softer shaft. Down off the soapbox now. Been gettin the shaft for years... ?????????????????????? Nick in Nor Cal -----Original Message----- From: Peter Vucinic To: FOT Sent: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:45 am Subject: [Fot] TR4 Rocker Shaft Anyone on the list have a contact for good quality hardened rocker shafts for TR4 engine? Thanks. Kind Regards Peter Vucinic TR-4 Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From cak at dimebank.com Thu Dec 4 12:11:24 2008 From: cak at dimebank.com (Chris Kantarjiev) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:11:24 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Rocker Shaft In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49382B5C.4050903@dimebank.com> You want to talk to Rocker Arm Specialists. They'll set you up with a nicely refurbished assembly for less than you can buy the parts. Contact info is in the Monster List, www.dimebank.com/monster From goodparts at verizon.net Thu Dec 4 12:15:46 2008 From: goodparts at verizon.net (Richard Good) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:15:46 -0500 Subject: [Fot] car transport Message-ID: <14971115BD1A4A6092BB47E77A8BB7EB@AdminPC> I have an empty 16x7 enclosed trailer going from Miami area to Reading, PA (close to Philadelphia) at the end of the year. Great for an LBC if there are any in need of a ride. Richard Good From GRMTim at aol.com Fri Dec 5 19:42:31 2008 From: GRMTim at aol.com (GRMTim at aol.com) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:42:31 EST Subject: [Fot] Group 44 GT6 update and tech question Message-ID: We have the four corners together on the chassis and are about to lower the painted body on to the chassis. We have the graphics done and are showing the nearly finished car as a roller at the PRI show in Orlando next week. I have looked in my manuals and on the internet, but can't find a definitive answer as to what order the rubber and aluminum spacers go between the body and the frame on a 1969 GT6+. Can anyone help me with this quickly, as I need to mate the two together this weekend. Thanks. Updates are on our site nearly every week with pics, for those that are interested. Tim Suddard Publisher; Classic Motorsports and Grassroots Motorsports magazines www.classicmotorsports.net www.grassrootsmotorsports.com Phone: (386) 673-4148 Fax: (386) 673-6040 ************** Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp& icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) From markconsultation at twcny.rr.com Sat Dec 6 13:32:19 2008 From: markconsultation at twcny.rr.com (Mark Eginton) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:32:19 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Parts needed Message-ID: <001b01c957e1$bccab870$6401a8c0@HP> Greetings all, For a winter project I am building a street engine. Couple of parts in my stash turned out to be junk and I am trying to keep this project under the radar of the war department. Looking for: Used 86mm piston 1, possibly two - look at the T on the side - I am looking for pistons with enlarged drilled holes (stock) at each upper end of the T as opposed to a slot with radiused ends. Sleeves are already bored, THEN I found the crack... Good deal on a street performance cam - my D cam has a few pinholes (rust that got under the wax) sigh. I am running lightened rods and flywheel with 9.5 to 10 to 1 compression. Thanks and happy holidaze - it was fun meeting many of you at Watkins this year... Best, Mark From WEmery7451 at aol.com Sat Dec 6 13:53:05 2008 From: WEmery7451 at aol.com (WEmery7451 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:53:05 EST Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit Message-ID: Dear FOT, Back in the mid-60s, Bix Durbin flipped his TR-3 end over end, and decided to hang up his racing efforts. I bought his limited slip unit, and raced with it for a few years until I stripped the teeth off of the pinion gear. I then went to the welded up differentials. I recently gave this unit to Dan Styduhar, who has been helping me work on my car for the last several years. Dan has also headed up the SAE Baja racing program for many years on the Pittsburgh branch campus of Penn State. He wants to install this unit in his TR-3 for autocrosses, hill climbs, and possible vintage racing; and would like to know who manufactured this unit. I realize that I can't send an attachment of pictures to the list. Are there FOTers who would be willing to look at the pictures and try to identify the manufacturer of this unit? I could send the photos to them individually. ************** Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom4 0vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) From kaskas at cox.net Sat Dec 6 14:15:21 2008 From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 13:15:21 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You can almost bet 100% that the unit is a Detroit Locker. Not much if anything was available in those days on this side of the ocean other than the above unit. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 12:53 PM Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit > Dear FOT, > > Back in the mid-60s, Bix Durbin flipped his TR-3 end over end, and decided > to > hang up his racing efforts. I bought his limited slip unit, and raced > with > it for a few years until I stripped the teeth off of the pinion gear. I > then > went to the welded up differentials. > > I recently gave this unit to Dan Styduhar, who has been helping me work on > my > car for the last several years. Dan has also headed up the SAE Baja > racing > program for many years on the Pittsburgh branch campus of Penn State. He > wants > to install this unit in his TR-3 for autocrosses, hill climbs, and > possible > vintage racing; and would like to know who manufactured this unit. > > I realize that I can't send an attachment of pictures to the list. Are > there > FOTers who would be willing to look at the pictures and try to identify > the > manufacturer of this unit? I could send the photos to them individually. > > ************** > Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite > sites in one place. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom4 > 0vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Sat Dec 6 14:36:57 2008 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 16:36:57 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit References: Message-ID: <747F1586CE4C4D5B864D883C2A9C4834@userb38463fba5> Bill, I had a Detroit Locker installed in a street TR4A and I can say it was a huge mistake. Track is one thing, street is another thing all together. Maybe it would behave differently in a solid axle car but in my case when I'd get on the gas I could jump an entire lane of trafic without moving the wheel. Same when I got off the gas. Maybe other things were contributing as well, I don't know but if he wants to drive his TR3 on the highway I'd tell him to think twice before doing so or at the least be ready for some wild rides. JVV ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 3:53 PM Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit > Dear FOT, > > Back in the mid-60s, Bix Durbin flipped his TR-3 end over end, and decided > to > hang up his racing efforts. I bought his limited slip unit, and raced > with > it for a few years until I stripped the teeth off of the pinion gear. I > then > went to the welded up differentials. > > I recently gave this unit to Dan Styduhar, who has been helping me work on > my > car for the last several years. Dan has also headed up the SAE Baja > racing > program for many years on the Pittsburgh branch campus of Penn State. He > wants > to install this unit in his TR-3 for autocrosses, hill climbs, and > possible > vintage racing; and would like to know who manufactured this unit. > > I realize that I can't send an attachment of pictures to the list. Are > there > FOTers who would be willing to look at the pictures and try to identify > the > manufacturer of this unit? I could send the photos to them individually. From kaskas at cox.net Sat Dec 6 14:52:38 2008 From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 13:52:38 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit In-Reply-To: <747F1586CE4C4D5B864D883C2A9C4834@userb38463fba5> References: <747F1586CE4C4D5B864D883C2A9C4834@userb38463fba5> Message-ID: I'll agree there. the locker does not fit street use or wet weather very much due to the locking and unlocking when the wheels slip in the wet surface, but on the track, tough parts and great performance. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Van Vlack" To: ; Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit > Bill, I had a Detroit Locker installed in a street TR4A and I can say it > was a huge mistake. Track is one thing, street is another thing all > together. Maybe it would behave differently in a solid axle car but in my > case when I'd get on the gas I could jump an entire lane of trafic without > moving the wheel. Same when I got off the gas. Maybe other things were > contributing as well, I don't know but if he wants to drive his TR3 on the > highway I'd tell him to think twice before doing so or at the least be > ready for some wild rides. > > JVV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 3:53 PM > Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit > > >> Dear FOT, >> >> Back in the mid-60s, Bix Durbin flipped his TR-3 end over end, and >> decided to >> hang up his racing efforts. I bought his limited slip unit, and raced >> with >> it for a few years until I stripped the teeth off of the pinion gear. I >> then >> went to the welded up differentials. >> >> I recently gave this unit to Dan Styduhar, who has been helping me work >> on my >> car for the last several years. Dan has also headed up the SAE Baja >> racing >> program for many years on the Pittsburgh branch campus of Penn State. He >> wants >> to install this unit in his TR-3 for autocrosses, hill climbs, and >> possible >> vintage racing; and would like to know who manufactured this unit. >> >> I realize that I can't send an attachment of pictures to the list. Are >> there >> FOTers who would be willing to look at the pictures and try to identify >> the >> manufacturer of this unit? I could send the photos to them individually. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Sat Dec 6 17:15:19 2008 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 19:15:19 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit References: <747F1586CE4C4D5B864D883C2A9C4834@userb38463fba5> Message-ID: I wrote to Kas shortly after this experirnce since the Competion Manual suggested this as something to do even for a hot street car. His response was perfect...........something like "the marketing guys got their hands on the manual and had some editorial input". This was one of those cases where the marketing guys went beyond their knowledge base for sure. Like that's never happened before! JVV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kas Kastner" To: "Jerry Van Vlack" ; ; Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit > I'll agree there. the locker does not fit street use or wet weather very > much due to the locking and unlocking when the wheels slip in the wet > surface, but on the track, tough parts and great performance. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry Van Vlack" > To: ; > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 1:36 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit > > >> Bill, I had a Detroit Locker installed in a street TR4A and I can say it >> was a huge mistake. Track is one thing, street is another thing all >> together. Maybe it would behave differently in a solid axle car but in my >> case when I'd get on the gas I could jump an entire lane of trafic >> without >> moving the wheel. Same when I got off the gas. Maybe other things were >> contributing as well, I don't know but if he wants to drive his TR3 on >> the >> highway I'd tell him to think twice before doing so or at the least be >> ready for some wild rides. >> >> JVV >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 3:53 PM >> Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit >> >> >>> Dear FOT, >>> >>> Back in the mid-60s, Bix Durbin flipped his TR-3 end over end, and >>> decided to >>> hang up his racing efforts. I bought his limited slip unit, and raced >>> with >>> it for a few years until I stripped the teeth off of the pinion gear. I >>> then >>> went to the welded up differentials. >>> >>> I recently gave this unit to Dan Styduhar, who has been helping me work >>> on my >>> car for the last several years. Dan has also headed up the SAE Baja >>> racing >>> program for many years on the Pittsburgh branch campus of Penn State. >>> He >>> wants >>> to install this unit in his TR-3 for autocrosses, hill climbs, and >>> possible >>> vintage racing; and would like to know who manufactured this unit. >>> >>> I realize that I can't send an attachment of pictures to the list. Are >>> there >>> FOTers who would be willing to look at the pictures and try to identify >>> the >>> manufacturer of this unit? I could send the photos to them >>> individually. From jaxonracing at yahoo.com Sun Dec 7 19:17:41 2008 From: jaxonracing at yahoo.com (Jay Creel) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 18:17:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] For Sale: 1147 Racing Engines Message-ID: <204629.16795.qm@web53507.mail.re2.yahoo.com> FOT, I have for sale, (2) complete ready to race 1147 motors prepared by George Bauchman. Both motors are complete and ready for installation. Both motors are refreshed and include 303014 heads. These motors are top notch and are well prepared. One motor has only one race weekend on it and the other is fresh with zero time. I have carbs and intake available for each motor as well as a set of Stahl headers. Give a call for complete information and pricing. Jay Creel 860.729.6569 From macdonaldp at rogers.com Sun Dec 7 21:56:41 2008 From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 23:56:41 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Differentials Message-ID: http://www.phantomgrip.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=57 Anyone heard of these? Are they any good, have bad points?? Paul [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] From Billb at bnj.com Sun Dec 7 22:16:25 2008 From: Billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 19:16:25 -1000 Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Differentials In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: From everything I've heard they don't do much. looking at the bits I'm not surprised. A salisbury type LSD uses a stack of clutch plates to do the job and they overheat easily. this system seems to use the sides of the spider gears as one clutch surface. There's no real explanation of how it works, just marketing drivel like "hand-selected materials". I spent a lot of time in advertising, I speak BS. That's absolutely BS. It's a faction of the cost of a real LSD. I expect it works about a fraction as well. On Dec 7, 2008, at 6:56 PM, Paul MacDonald wrote: > http://www.phantomgrip.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=57 > > Anyone heard of these? Are they any good, have bad points?? > > Paul > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef > which had a name of winmail.dat] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > Bill Babcock Babcock & Jenkins Billb at bnj.com 503.936.7660 www.bnj.com Editor Ke Nalu e-Magazine Paddlesurfing's Web Journal Bill at kenalu.com www.kenalu.com blog: www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog From rblake36 at yahoo.com Mon Dec 8 11:00:19 2008 From: rblake36 at yahoo.com (Robert Blake) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 10:00:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Atlanta area TR4 on Ebay Message-ID: <739110.96815.qm@web58506.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Is anyone familiar with a red 65 TR4 located in the Atlanta, GA area recently offered on Ebay. Auction ended Nov 29. If so would be interested in your opinion of the car. Bob Blake From WEmery7451 at aol.com Mon Dec 8 16:11:48 2008 From: WEmery7451 at aol.com (WEmery7451 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 18:11:48 EST Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Limited Slip Unit Message-ID: Dear FOT, I would like to thank everyone for their input as to the type of unit this is, and the manufacturer. It appears that Michael did a pretty thorough job. My older brother worked at Eaton for a number of years. I can vaguely remember him mentioned these units, or something like them. ************** Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom 00000010) Return-path: From: WEmery7451 at aol.com Full-name: WEmery7451 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 17:25:18 EST Subject: Fwd: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit To: UNV at PSU.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/mixed by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME093-9c2493b9429379; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 04:15:38 -0500 Received: from dfn.com (dfn.com [206.206.88.7]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME066-9c2493b9429379; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 04:15:21 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.2] [206.206.89.65] by dfn.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-8.22) id A425073C; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 02:15:17 -0700 Message-ID: <493B9411.2030605 at dfn.com> Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 02:14:57 -0700 From: Michael Porter Reply-To: mdporter at dfn.com Organization: Very little User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: WEmery7451 at aol.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Declude-Sender: mdporter at dfn.com [192.168.0.2] X-Declude-Spoolname: D9425008e0000ed13.smd X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.4.23 for spam. "http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm" X-Declude-Scan: Score [0] at 02:15:20 on 07 Dec 2008 X-Declude-Fail: Whitelisted X-AOL-IP: 206.206.88.7 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain WEmery7451 at aol.com wrote: > Hi Michael, > > I attempted to attach the pictures. Bill Emery > > Bill, it certainly looks like an old Detroit Locker. The dogs and springs look very much like the early ones, as does the case style (very similar to the split ring gear flange on the old Ford 9" locker carriers). I would guess it was one of the early ones produced by Detroit Automotive Products (DAPCO). Since the product line has since been sold to Tractech, which was, in turn, then sold to Eaton, Eaton is the likely place to find parts. The maker's mark probably isn't going to be much help--it's likely the mark of the company doing the carrier casting, from the look of it. There ought to be a model/serial number on it somewhere, and I'd guess it's on the ring gear flange, underneath the ring gear. Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... From srcypher at mac.com Mon Dec 8 16:52:51 2008 From: srcypher at mac.com (Scott Cypher) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 18:52:51 -0500 Subject: [Fot] CL: TR4 Fiberglass (NY-Long Island) Message-ID: <41CA7FED-E8D5-41A6-A92C-4E3B2C2E22CE@mac.com> Not mine, no interest, but if someone was seeking fiberglass rear fenders... http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/pts/942057858.html Thanks -Scott Cypher spitfireracer at xsmail.com SCCA #37 HP Spitfire 1500 #362573 Reading, PA http://gallery.me.com/srcypher#gallery 1971 Spit MkIV/1500 RaceCar 1971 TR6 TBD 1976 TR7 Street 1968 GT6 Vintage "I'm so excited I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head. Its the excitement only a free man can feel. A free man at the start of a long journey, whose conclusion is uncertain" From colordog.1 at earthlink.net Mon Dec 8 16:57:57 2008 From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (steve belfer) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 23:57:57 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Tr3 steering shaft Message-ID: <294192134-1228780727-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-673227095-@bxe296.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> I'm about to get a quick release steering wheel shaft welded to my existing steering shaft. The part that was ordered is bigger in diameter than the shaft itself. Does this mean I could not ever fix the steering box, should the need arise because the shaft pulls out from the front? Do I need to get a quick release unit with an end that's the same dia. As the shaft and not bigger? Steve Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From brad.kahler at 141.com Mon Dec 8 17:52:13 2008 From: brad.kahler at 141.com (Brad Kahler) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:52:13 GMT Subject: [Fot] Tr3 steering shaft Message-ID: <200812081752963.SM03744@[166.70.182.40]> Steve, The later TR3s had split steering shafts.B If yours is a solid one piece I would look for a later gearbox with the slit column.B Much eaiser to work on as well..B Brad -----Original Message----- From: "steve belfer" Sent 12/8/2008 4:57:57 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Tr3 steering shaftI'm about to get a quick release steering wheel shaft welded to my existing steering shaft. The part that was ordered is bigger in diameter than the shaft itself. Does this mean I could not ever fix the steering box, should the need arise because the shaft pulls out from the front? Do I need to get a quick release unit with an end that's the same dia. As the shaft and not bigger? Steve Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From colordog.1 at earthlink.net Mon Dec 8 18:02:55 2008 From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (steve belfer) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 01:02:55 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Tr3 steering shaft In-Reply-To: <200812081752963.SM03744@[166.70.182.40]> References: <200812081752963.SM03744@[166.70.182.40]> Message-ID: <38158263-1228784624-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-526151194-@bxe296.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> I have the one piece shaft in the car and an extra unit in storage (lower half only). I don't plan on swapping this out now since everything is working great. I'll look for a smaller dia. Quick release unit. Btw, I just had some nice roll bar work done, if anyone wants to see, email me for pictures. Steve Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: "Brad Kahler" Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:52:13 To: ; fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Tr3 steering shaft Steve, The later TR3s had split steering shafts.B If yours is a solid one piece I would look for a later gearbox with the slit column.B Much eaiser to work on as well..B Brad -----Original Message----- From: "steve belfer" Sent 12/8/2008 4:57:57 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Tr3 steering shaftI'm about to get a quick release steering wheel shaft welded to my existing steering shaft. The part that was ordered is bigger in diameter than the shaft itself. Does this mean I could not ever fix the steering box, should the need arise because the shaft pulls out from the front? Do I need to get a quick release unit with an end that's the same dia. As the shaft and not bigger? Steve Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.htmlhttp://www.fot-racing.com Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From Gt6steve at aol.com Mon Dec 8 18:32:02 2008 From: Gt6steve at aol.com (Gt6steve at aol.com) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 20:32:02 EST Subject: [Fot] Tr3 steering shaft Message-ID: Hell Yes we want to see! Send it out, I can put it on my Photobucket page so all can see. Steve ;-)) **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) From william.tobin3 at verizon.net Mon Dec 8 20:26:33 2008 From: william.tobin3 at verizon.net (WILLIAM TOBIN) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:26:33 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Differentials References: Message-ID: <002a01c959ad$f0125f80$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> Hi all, on a related note, has anyone used the Infiniti or 300ZX viscous limited slip setup in a TR6? The one that Richard Good makes a kit for? Thanks, Bill----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul MacDonald" To: "Fot" Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 11:56 PM Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Differentials > http://www.phantomgrip.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=57 > > Anyone heard of these? Are they any good, have bad points?? > > Paul > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From macdonaldp at rogers.com Mon Dec 8 20:52:47 2008 From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 22:52:47 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Differentials In-Reply-To: <002a01c959ad$f0125f80$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> Message-ID: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110321369 431&ih=001&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem= There is one in this car that is for sale on Ebay...sounds like a nice car. Paul -----Original Message----- From: WILLIAM TOBIN [mailto:william.tobin3 at verizon.net] Sent: December 8, 2008 10:27 PM To: Paul MacDonald; Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Limited Slip Differentials Hi all, on a related note, has anyone used the Infiniti or 300ZX viscous limited slip setup in a TR6? The one that Richard Good makes a kit for? Thanks, Bill----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul MacDonald" To: "Fot" Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 11:56 PM Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Differentials > http://www.phantomgrip.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=57 > > Anyone heard of these? Are they any good, have bad points?? > > Paul > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From mark at bradakis.com Mon Dec 8 21:53:43 2008 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 21:53:43 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Tr3 steering shaft In-Reply-To: <38158263-1228784624-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-526151194-@bxe296.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <200812081752963.SM03744@[166.70.182.40]> <38158263-1228784624-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-526151194-@bxe296.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <493DF9D7.10104@bradakis.com> steve belfer wrote: > if anyone wants to see, email me for pictures. > > A reminder to folks - if you don't have a personal server to host your photos, you can put them in a post on http://www.team.net/forums mjb. From mediehljr at yahoo.com Tue Dec 9 06:00:14 2008 From: mediehljr at yahoo.com (Ed Diehl) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 05:00:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] CL: TR4 Fiberglass (NY-Long Island) In-Reply-To: <41CA7FED-E8D5-41A6-A92C-4E3B2C2E22CE@mac.com> Message-ID: <999793.13788.qm@web51905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello all. For what it's worth, I have molds for rear fenders for TR4 or TR250 in XLent shape that I will sell for $200 plus shipping. Contact me off list. Merry Christmas. Cheers, Ed. Ed Diehl --- On Mon, 12/8/08, Scott Cypher wrote: From: Scott Cypher Subject: [Fot] CL: TR4 Fiberglass (NY-Long Island) To: "Friends of Triumph" Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 6:52 PM Not mine, no interest, but if someone was seeking fiberglass rear fenders... http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/pts/942057858.html Thanks -Scott Cypher spitfireracer at xsmail.com SCCA #37 HP Spitfire 1500 #362573 Reading, PA http://gallery.me.com/srcypher#gallery 1971 Spit MkIV/1500 RaceCar 1971 TR6 TBD 1976 TR7 Street 1968 GT6 Vintage "I'm so excited I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head. Its the excitement only a free man can feel. A free man at the start of a long journey, whose conclusion is uncertain" Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From trhouse at greenapple.com Tue Dec 9 07:33:45 2008 From: trhouse at greenapple.com (Tom Householder) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 09:33:45 -0500 Subject: [Fot] CL: TR4 Fiberglass (NY-Long Island) In-Reply-To: <999793.13788.qm@web51905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: on 12/9/08 8:00 AM, Ed Diehl at mediehljr at yahoo.com wrote: > Hello all. For what it's worth, I have molds for rear fenders for TR4 or TR250 > in XLent shape that I will sell for $200 plus shipping. Contact me off list. > Merry Christmas. Cheers, Ed. > > Ed Diehl > > --- On Mon, 12/8/08, Scott Cypher wrote: For the inventory I have a fiberglass mould for the rear valence for a TR6 FYI tom From trmarty at hotmail.com Tue Dec 9 10:11:43 2008 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 12:11:43 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Differentials In-Reply-To: <002a01c959ad$f0125f80$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> References: <002a01c959ad$f0125f80$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> Message-ID: Yup, been there done that. Would definitely do it again. Marty> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 22:26:33 -0500> From: william.tobin3 at verizon.net> To: macdonaldp at rogers.com; fot at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] Limited Slip Differentials> > Hi all, on a related note, has anyone used the Infiniti or 300ZX viscous> limited slip setup in a TR6? The one that Richard Good makes a kit for?> Thanks, Bill----- Original Message ----- _________________________________________________________________ Suspicious message? Theres an alert for that. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad2_1 22008 From mark at bradakis.com Tue Dec 9 19:48:52 2008 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:48:52 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Nice photo Message-ID: <493F2E14.6030505@bradakis.com> Karen just got home with the contents of the PO box, which included a new issue of The Vintage Triumph. Nice cover shot of a couple of racing TRs - they look sort of familiar, it seems. mjb. From janbarker888 at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 9 22:46:54 2008 From: janbarker888 at sbcglobal.net (janbarker888 at sbcglobal.net) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 21:46:54 -0800 Subject: [Fot] REMOVAL FROM LIST Message-ID: <002601c95a8a$b58133e0$9f94ed45@yourf78bf48ce2> Please remove my name from the FOT list - I'm just not able to keep up with all the e-mails. Thanks Jerry Barker janbarker888 at sbcglobal.net From jsnook at wcnet.org Wed Dec 10 06:29:35 2008 From: jsnook at wcnet.org (Jeff Snook) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:29:35 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nice photo References: <493F2E14.6030505@bradakis.com> Message-ID: Hey Mark, This photo must have been during one of the early sessions when Henry Fry was having car troubles. He was "smokin' hot" all weekend and I could not stay in front of him for very long!! Congratulations to Henry!! Jeff Snook www.snooksdreamcars.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark J Bradakis To: 'Friends of Triumph' Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:48 PM Subject: [Fot] Nice photo Karen just got home with the contents of the PO box, which included a new issue of The Vintage Triumph. Nice cover shot of a couple of racing TRs - they look sort of familiar, it seems. mjb. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html http://www.fot-racing.com Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1840 - Release Date: 12/9/2008 4:53 PM From billdentin at aol.com Wed Dec 10 08:05:31 2008 From: billdentin at aol.com (billdentin at aol.com) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:05:31 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nice photo In-Reply-To: <493F2E14.6030505@bradakis.com> References: <493F2E14.6030505@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <8CB28EFE04A6E8D-1518-1197@FWM-M12.sysops.aol.com> <<< Karen just got home with the contents of the PO box, which included? a new issue of The Vintage Triumph. Nice cover shot of a couple of? racing TRs - they look sort of familiar, it seems. >>>? I'll say!? Jeff?Snook and Henry Frye.? Great shot.? Great issue too.? The GLEN article captures the magnitude and scope of the event over and above the awesome vintage racing.? I particularly liked?Mike Cook's memorial to P. L. Newman, and Paul?Richardson's article on the FERGUSON tractor ties. Bill Dentinger? _______________________________________________? From hakhutch at roadrunner.com Wed Dec 10 17:59:48 2008 From: hakhutch at roadrunner.com (Tim Hutchisen) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:59:48 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nice photo References: <493F2E14.6030505@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <2E7178A2C2DF498A8A3EFBBB0E715EF7@UPSTAIRSOFFICE> I'd like to think it was Henry's crew chief for the weekend that made his car fast all weekend, but I didn't do anything that would remotely qualify as "tuning". It was all Henry's efforts that got him this fame and glory! Tim Hutchisen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Snook" To: "Mark J Bradakis" ; "'Friends of Triumph'" Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Nice photo > Hey Mark, > > This photo must have been during one of the early sessions when Henry Fry > was > having car troubles. He was "smokin' hot" all weekend and I could not > stay in > front of him for very long!! > > Congratulations to Henry!! > > Jeff Snook > www.snooksdreamcars.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mark J Bradakis > To: 'Friends of Triumph' > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:48 PM > Subject: [Fot] Nice photo > > > Karen just got home with the contents of the PO box, which included > a new issue of The Vintage Triumph. Nice cover shot of a couple of > racing TRs - they look sort of familiar, it seems. > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1840 - Release Date: > 12/9/2008 > 4:53 PM > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From mlcooknj at msn.com Wed Dec 10 18:00:49 2008 From: mlcooknj at msn.com (michael cook) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:00:49 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nice photo In-Reply-To: <2E7178A2C2DF498A8A3EFBBB0E715EF7@UPSTAIRSOFFICE> References: <493F2E14.6030505@bradakis.com> <2E7178A2C2DF498A8A3EFBBB0E715EF7@UPSTAIRSOFFICE> Message-ID: Looking from outside, what I see is a bunch of talented guys wrenching and driving, making all the cars go faster and better. Mike Cook> From: hakhutch at roadrunner.com> To: jsnook at wcnet.org; fot at autox.team.net> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:59:48 -0500> Subject: Re: [Fot] Nice photo> > I'd like to think it was Henry's crew chief for the weekend that made his > car fast all weekend, but I didn't do anything that would remotely qualify > as "tuning". It was all Henry's efforts that got him this fame and glory!> > Tim Hutchisen> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Snook" > To: "Mark J Bradakis" ; "'Friends of Triumph'" > > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:29 AM> Subject: Re: [Fot] Nice photo> > > > Hey Mark,> >> > This photo must have been during one of the early sessions when Henry Fry > > was> > having car troubles. He was "smokin' hot" all weekend and I could not > > stay in> > front of him for very long!!> >> > Congratulations to Henry!!> >> > Jeff Snook> > www.snooksdreamcars.com> > ----- Original Message -----> > From: Mark J Bradakis> > To: 'Friends of Triumph'> > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:48 PM> > Subject: [Fot] Nice photo> >> >> > Karen just got home with the contents of the PO box, which included> > a new issue of The Vintage Triumph. Nice cover shot of a couple of> > racing TRs - they look sort of familiar, it seems.> >> > mjb.> > _______________________________________________> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> >> > http://www.fot-racing.com> >> > Fot mailing list> > Fot at autox.team.net> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot> >> >> >> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------------> > -> >> >> >> > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com> > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1840 - Release Date: > > 12/9/2008> > 4:53 PM> > _______________________________________________> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> >> > http://www.fot-racing.com> >> > Fot mailing list> > Fot at autox.team.net> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot> _______________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > http://www.fot-racing.com> > Fot mailing list> Fot at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot> From riverside at cedar-rapids.net Wed Dec 10 16:08:50 2008 From: riverside at cedar-rapids.net (riverside) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:08:50 -0600 Subject: [Fot] custom radiators Message-ID: <00e501c95b48$2c8ada00$8fcf1a3f@your55e5f9e3d2> Group, can anyone recommend a source for custom radiator fabrication? Thanks art de armond From henry at henryfrye.com Thu Dec 11 04:16:13 2008 From: henry at henryfrye.com (Henry Frye) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 06:16:13 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nice photo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2B52E8650115BB4085979C721A085AD40A3E5B@server.Triumph.local> Thanks, Jeff. I wish everybody could experience the elation I felt that day. Talk about making all the effort worthwhile. After the tragic weekend at Grattan a few weeks prior, several of us were running with heavy hearts. I guess that translated into a heavy foot, just what Jack would have wanted. I miss Jack. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Snook > Subject: Re: [Fot] Nice photo > > Hey Mark, > > This photo must have been during one of the early sessions > when Henry Fry was having car troubles. He was "smokin' hot" > all weekend and I could not stay in front of him for very long!! > > Congratulations to Henry!! From standardtriumph at btinternet.com Thu Dec 11 05:29:58 2008 From: standardtriumph at btinternet.com (John Macartney) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:29:58 -0000 Subject: [Fot] Nice photo References: <2B52E8650115BB4085979C721A085AD40A3E5B@server.Triumph.local> Message-ID: <0B3E7670A439452983F842EDCF6233B4@Bevan> Henry Frye wrote: > I miss Jack. All who knew Jack (and I was one who didn't, except through his emails to me) will surely echo that sentiment. But his name lives on in the hearts of all he knew himself - and in the form of a Stag I'll be driving across the States and Canada next year - that's been 'christened' as 'uncle jack' Jonmac From Gt6steve at aol.com Thu Dec 11 06:18:24 2008 From: Gt6steve at aol.com (Gt6steve at aol.com) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:18:24 EST Subject: [Fot] custom radiators Message-ID: Afco Racing supply **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. 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NFI Brad From standardtriumph at btinternet.com Thu Dec 11 09:46:35 2008 From: standardtriumph at btinternet.com (John Macartney) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:46:35 -0000 Subject: [Fot] More news on the Triumph Trans-AmeriCa Charity Drive 2009 Message-ID: As some of you already know, the Stag that I'm driving next year is now known as 'uncle jack' in memory of Jack Drews, who died earlier this year while racing his TR4. Reconstruction work on the car itself continues apace under 'Stagmeister' Joe Pawlak and his team at ISOA and Tim Buja has posted the latest pix of work undertaken this last weekend. You can see those pix and the dedication of the Stag in Jack's memory on the event website which is www.triumphtransamerica.org.uk Cheers, all John Macartney Originator of The Triumph Trans-America Charity Drive 2009 www.triumphtransamerica.org.uk An event for full TRIUMPH Enthusiast participation From jaboruch at netzero.net Thu Dec 11 17:46:09 2008 From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:46:09 GMT Subject: [Fot] custom radiators Message-ID: <20081211.194609.21004.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> About 8 years ago I had a TR3 type aluminum radiator (less the filler neck) custom made at Howe Radiator in Michigan. It only took a couple of weeks and was true to my drawing. Their web site is http://www.howeracing.com/Radiators/Index-CustomRadiators.htm. Joe(B) -- "riverside" wrote: Group, can anyone recommend a source for custom radiator fabrication? Thanks art de armond Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot ____________________________________________________________ Save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD! Shop now at http://offers.netzero.net/TGL1231/?u=http://www.ftd.com/17007 From mark at bradakis.com Thu Dec 11 20:45:58 2008 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:45:58 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR6 Second Gear Scrunch Message-ID: <4941DE76.1060603@bradakis.com> About a year ago I rebuilt a trans and A type overdrive for a fellow here in Salt Lake City. At that time we also installed one of TRF's 'Magic clutch kits' with a Gunst throwout bearing. About a month or so back he brings it by the shop and has me drive it around. The gearbox works well, except that going into second gear you get grinding noises. Upshifting or down, you get the noise. Shifting into any other gear is just fine. To me the clutch engagement seemed too close to the floor, and the transmission behavior was a lot like what my little Nissan pickup does on occasion. In the pickup, I pull the floor mat out from under the clutch pedal to fix it. I suggested that one probable cause was the clutch hydraulics, as we did nothing to that last year at the time of the rebuild. Anyway, he brings the car in with a new aftermarket slave cylinder and an adjustable pushrod, which I installed the other day. The 1st - 2nd shifts are smoother, the engagement point is further off the floor, but still grinding on 3 - 2 downshifts, though not as badly as before. More bleeding and adjustment, the 3 - 2 noise persists. Pulled the cover off the gearbox, everything looks good inside. The synchro has plenty of clearance, end floats seem to be fine, nothing amiss as far as I can tell from my contorted position under the dash trying to peer into the heart of the thing. Now what? Anyone have some sure fire ways to determine if the grinding is due to internal gearbox issues, or simply a dragging clutch? mjb. From budscars at comcast.net Thu Dec 11 20:48:38 2008 From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:48:38 -0800 Subject: [Fot] custom radiators References: <20081211.194609.21004.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: Spitfire Tranny... Hi gang.... In the race at Infineon in October, my tranny messed up in my spitfire(stock Tranny)....first it was popping out of 3rd (I could hold it in)...then...It would not downshift to second(grind).....1st and 4th worked fine.... Any help will be greatly appreciated..I have not pulled it yet Thanks! Racer Bud..Spitfire # 21 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Boruch" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] custom radiators > About 8 years ago I had a TR3 type aluminum radiator (less the filler > neck) > custom made at Howe Radiator in Michigan. It only took a couple of weeks > and > was true to my drawing. Their web site is > http://www.howeracing.com/Radiators/Index-CustomRadiators.htm. Joe(B) > > -- "riverside" wrote: > Group, > > can anyone recommend a source for > custom radiator fabrication? > Thanks > > art de armond > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > ____________________________________________________________ > Save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD! > Shop now at http://offers.netzero.net/TGL1231/?u=http://www.ftd.com/17007 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From Billb at bnj.com Thu Dec 11 21:14:50 2008 From: Billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:14:50 -1000 Subject: [Fot] TR6 Second Gear Scrunch In-Reply-To: <4941DE76.1060603@bradakis.com> References: <4941DE76.1060603@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <2F06A168-D57D-4964-8C08-05C92CD1F881@bnj.com> It sure sounds like a dragging clutch. Might be a warped plate. On Dec 11, 2008, at 5:45 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > About a year ago I rebuilt a trans and A type overdrive for a fellow > here > in Salt Lake City. At that time we also installed one of TRF's 'Magic > clutch kits' with a Gunst throwout bearing. About a month or so back > he brings it by the shop and has me drive it around. > > The gearbox works well, except that going into second gear you get > grinding noises. Upshifting or down, you get the noise. Shifting > into > any other gear is just fine. > > To me the clutch engagement seemed too close to the floor, and the > transmission behavior was a lot like what my little Nissan pickup > does on occasion. In the pickup, I pull the floor mat out from under > the clutch pedal to fix it. I suggested that one probable cause was > the > clutch hydraulics, as we did nothing to that last year at the time of > the rebuild. > > Anyway, he brings the car in with a new aftermarket slave cylinder > and an adjustable pushrod, which I installed the other day. The 1st > - 2nd > shifts are smoother, the engagement point is further off the floor, > but > still grinding on 3 - 2 downshifts, though not as badly as before. > More > bleeding and adjustment, the 3 - 2 noise persists. > > Pulled the cover off the gearbox, everything looks good inside. The > synchro has plenty of clearance, end floats seem to be fine, nothing > amiss as far as I can tell from my contorted position under the dash > trying to peer into the heart of the thing. > > Now what? Anyone have some sure fire ways to determine if the > grinding is due to internal gearbox issues, or simply a dragging > clutch? > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > Bill Babcock Babcock & Jenkins Billb at bnj.com 503.936.7660 www.bnj.com Editor Ke Nalu e-Magazine Paddlesurfing's Web Journal Bill at kenalu.com www.kenalu.com blog: www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog From tr3driver at ca.rr.com Thu Dec 11 22:43:41 2008 From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:43:41 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR6 Second Gear Scrunch In-Reply-To: <4941DE76.1060603@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <20081212054340.VATZ26434.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@randall> > Now what? Anyone have some sure fire ways to determine if > the grinding is due to internal gearbox issues, or simply a > dragging clutch? The test for a dragging clutch (pilot bearing, etc.) is fairly easy : Depress and hold the clutch; shift into 2nd (or any gear with synchromesh) to stop the input shaft; then shift to neutral, wait a beat, and shift into reverse. If it grinds at all, the clutch (etc.) is dragging. Randall From robertten1 at aol.com Fri Dec 12 06:53:31 2008 From: robertten1 at aol.com (robertten1 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:53:31 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Spifire tranny ... In-Reply-To: References: <20081211.194609.21004.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <8CB2A7826BB3472-1108-1F10@FWM-M15.sysops.aol.com> Racer Bud, Snap ring in front of 3rd gear assy. is broken.? Time for a complete rebuild. Best of luck, Bob T. '64 Spit GT? autocrosser -----Original Message----- From: RACER BUD To: Joe Boruch ; riverside at cedar-rapids.net Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:48 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] custom radiators Spitfire Tranny...? Hi gang....? In the race at Infineon in October, my tranny messed up in my spitfire(stock Tranny)....first it was popping out of 3rd (I could hold it in)...then...It would not downshift to second(grind).....1st and 4th worked fine....? Any help will be greatly appreciated..I have not pulled it yet? Thanks!? Racer Bud..Spitfire # 21? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Boruch" ? To: ? Cc: ? Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:46 PM? Subject: Re: [Fot] custom radiators? ? > About 8 years ago I had a TR3 type aluminum radiator (less the filler > neck)? > custom made at Howe Radiator in Michigan. It only took a couple of weeks > and? > was true to my drawing. Their web site is? > http://www.howeracing.com/Radiators/Index-CustomRadiators.htm. Joe(B)? >? > -- "riverside" wrote:? > Group,? >? > can anyone recommend a source for? > custom radiator fabrication?? > Thanks? >? > art de armond? > Fot mailing list? > Fot at autox.team.net? > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot? >? > ____________________________________________________________? > Save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD!? > Shop now at http://offers.netzero.net/TGL1231/?u=http://www.ftd.com/17007? > _______________________________________________? > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? >? > http://www.fot-racing.com? >? > Fot mailing list? > Fot at autox.team.net? > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot? _______________________________________________? Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? ? http://www.fot-racing.com? ? Fot mailing list? Fot at autox.team.net? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot? ? From robertten1 at aol.com Fri Dec 12 06:56:18 2008 From: robertten1 at aol.com (robertten1 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:56:18 -0500 Subject: [Fot] custom radiators In-Reply-To: <20081211.194609.21004.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> References: <20081211.194609.21004.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <8CB2A788AADCBA6-1108-1F30@FWM-M15.sysops.aol.com> Some of the TR parts suppliers are listing alloy rads.? Check them out if they fit your needs. Best of luck, Bob T. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Boruch To: riverside at cedar-rapids.net Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 7:46 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] custom radiators About 8 years ago I had a TR3 type aluminum radiator (less the filler neck) custom made at Howe Radiator in Michigan. It only took a couple of weeks and was true to my drawing. Their web site is http://www.howeracing.com/Radiators/Index-CustomRadiators.htm. Joe(B) -- "riverside" wrote: Group, can anyone recommend a source for custom radiator fabrication? Thanks art de armond Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot ____________________________________________________________ Save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD! Shop now at http://offers.netzero.net/TGL1231/?u=http://www.ftd.com/17007 Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From cwn74 at aol.com Fri Dec 12 07:32:29 2008 From: cwn74 at aol.com (Clark W. Nicholls) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:32:29 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Spifire tranny ... In-Reply-To: <8CB2A7826BB3472-1108-1F10@FWM-M15.sysops.aol.com> References: <20081211.194609.21004.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> <8CB2A7826BB3472-1108-1F10@FWM-M15.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1F45C5411E9346D2B645C5009FBF066C@semperon3400> I agree it is the snap ring on the mainshaft. Never use a used one, always new! If you need to take it off, use another new one (buy several). If you hold the shift lever to keep the tranny in gear and let off on the gas you'll notice the lever move (try to move). That is the gears moving on the mainshaft due to the snap ring coming out of the groove. There is a thrust washer in there too that can get damaged. Been there.... Clark Clark W. Nicholls '72 Stag '74 Spitfire "Reality... It's not what you think." From fubog1 at aol.com Fri Dec 12 07:45:39 2008 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:45:39 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Spifire tranny ... In-Reply-To: <1F45C5411E9346D2B645C5009FBF066C@semperon3400> References: <1F45C5411E9346D2B645C5009FBF066C@semperon3400> Message-ID: <8CB2A7F6F6D7AEF-E24-38A@WEBMAIL-DG13.sim.aol.com> Yes, too much end float, most likely the circlip, and also the circlip has a slight offset on one end & it has to be fitted facing forward ie away from the gear/thrust washer. Glen -----Original Message----- From: Clark W. Nicholls To: robertten1 at aol.com; fot at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 9:32 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Spifire tranny ... I agree it is the snap ring on the mainshaft. Never use a used one, always new! If you need to take it off, use another new one (buy several). If you hold the shift lever to keep the tranny in gear and let off on the gas you'll notice the lever move (try to move). That is the gears moving on the mainshaft due to the snap ring coming out of the groove. There is a thrust washer in there too that can get damaged. Been there.... Clark Clark W. Nicholls '72 Stag '74 Spitfire "Reality... It's not what you think." Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From kenandtweety at yahoo.com Fri Dec 12 08:32:50 2008 From: kenandtweety at yahoo.com (Ken Suhre) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:32:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] TR6 Second Gear Scrunch In-Reply-To: <4941DE76.1060603@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <480335.66343.qm@web111402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Mark wrote:About a year ago I rebuilt a trans and A type overdrive for a fellow here in Salt Lake City. Mark, My experience has been that if all other gears shift fine, then the offending one probably has a worn blocker ring or the syncro engagement teeth on the gear are rounded off. A dragging clutch could cause the excess wear to the blocker ring or it could be the driver not disengaging the clutch properly. It could also be junior wear. (the guys kid is beating the crap out of it.) Ken Suhre --- On Thu, 12/11/08, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > From: Mark J Bradakis > Subject: [Fot] TR6 Second Gear Scrunch > To: "'Friends of Triumph'" > Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 9:45 PM > About a year ago I rebuilt a trans and A type overdrive for > a fellow here > in Salt Lake City. At that time we also installed one of > TRF's 'Magic > clutch kits' with a Gunst throwout bearing. About a > month or so back > he brings it by the shop and has me drive it around. > > The gearbox works well, except that going into second gear > you get > grinding noises. Upshifting or down, you get the noise. > Shifting into > any other gear is just fine. > > To me the clutch engagement seemed too close to the floor, > and the > transmission behavior was a lot like what my little Nissan > pickup > does on occasion. In the pickup, I pull the floor mat out > from under > the clutch pedal to fix it. I suggested that one probable > cause was the > clutch hydraulics, as we did nothing to that last year at > the time of > the rebuild. > > Anyway, he brings the car in with a new aftermarket slave > cylinder > and an adjustable pushrod, which I installed the other day. > The 1st - 2nd > shifts are smoother, the engagement point is further off > the floor, but > still grinding on 3 - 2 downshifts, though not as badly as > before. More > bleeding and adjustment, the 3 - 2 noise persists. > > Pulled the cover off the gearbox, everything looks good > inside. The > synchro has plenty of clearance, end floats seem to be > fine, nothing > amiss as far as I can tell from my contorted position under > the dash > trying to peer into the heart of the thing. > > Now what? Anyone have some sure fire ways to determine if > the > grinding is due to internal gearbox issues, or simply a > dragging > clutch? > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From budscars at comcast.net Fri Dec 12 10:09:18 2008 From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:09:18 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Spifire tranny ... References: <20081211.194609.21004.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> <8CB2A7826BB3472-1108-1F10@FWM-M15.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: thanks to all for info on my spit tranny Racer Bud spitfire#21 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 5:53 AM Subject: [Fot] Spifire tranny ... > Racer Bud, > > Snap ring in front of 3rd gear assy. is broken.? Time for a complete > rebuild. > > Best of luck, > Bob T. > '64 Spit GT? autocrosser > > > -----Original Message----- > From: RACER BUD > To: Joe Boruch ; riverside at cedar-rapids.net > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:48 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] custom radiators > > > Spitfire Tranny...? > Hi gang....? > In the race at Infineon in October, my tranny messed up in my > spitfire(stock Tranny)....first it was popping out of 3rd (I could hold it > in)...then...It would not downshift to second(grind).....1st and 4th > worked fine....? > Any help will be greatly appreciated..I have not pulled it yet? > Thanks!? > Racer Bud..Spitfire # 21? > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Boruch" ? > To: ? > Cc: ? > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:46 PM? > Subject: Re: [Fot] custom radiators? > ? >> About 8 years ago I had a TR3 type aluminum radiator (less the filler > >> neck)? >> custom made at Howe Radiator in Michigan. It only took a couple of weeks >> > and? >> was true to my drawing. Their web site is? >> http://www.howeracing.com/Radiators/Index-CustomRadiators.htm. Joe(B)? >>? >> -- "riverside" wrote:? >> Group,? >>? >> can anyone recommend a source for? >> custom radiator fabrication?? >> Thanks? >>? >> art de armond? >> Fot mailing list? >> Fot at autox.team.net? >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot? >>? >> ____________________________________________________________? >> Save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD!? >> Shop now at >> http://offers.netzero.net/TGL1231/?u=http://www.ftd.com/17007? >> _______________________________________________? >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? >>? >> http://www.fot-racing.com? >>? >> Fot mailing list? >> Fot at autox.team.net? >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot? > _______________________________________________? > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? > ? > http://www.fot-racing.com? > ? > Fot mailing list? > Fot at autox.team.net? > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot? > ? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From markconsultation at twcny.rr.com Fri Dec 12 11:57:54 2008 From: markconsultation at twcny.rr.com (Mark Eginton) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:57:54 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Parts needed Message-ID: <001201c95c8b$8a123b70$6401a8c0@HP> Found pistons from Joe A - just what the doctor ordered. Considering a cam ground by ISKY 555 or 666 recommendation from Joe. Thinking about asking Santa for a ProSim Tabletop dyno program to play with over the holidaze to see how the hp torque profiles look. There is a calibration option - does anyone have a build sheet for a TR3/4 motor and an engine dyno test? Don't dig it out yet till I get serious about this. I would be happy to share the database tuned to 4cyl tr3/4 if it all comes together. Best, M From rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com Fri Dec 12 16:17:30 2008 From: rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com (Bob) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:17:30 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR3 hardtop Message-ID: <4942F10A.1090703@cfl.rr.com> I am in the initial stages putting a 1957 TR3 back on the track. I think I would like to make into a GT and need a hard top to do so. So, I'm on the hunt for an original steel hardtop. Any leads would be greatly appreciated. Bob Mt Dora, FL From twakeman at razzolink.com Fri Dec 12 18:30:10 2008 From: twakeman at razzolink.com (TeriAnn Wakeman) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:30:10 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR3 hardtop In-Reply-To: <4942F10A.1090703@cfl.rr.com> References: <4942F10A.1090703@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <49431022.6090805@razzolink.com> Bob wrote: > I am in the initial stages putting a 1957 TR3 back on the track. I > think I would like to make into a GT and need a hard top to do so. So, > I'm on the hunt for an original steel hardtop. Any leads would be > greatly appreciated. I have one in California near Monterey that I've just put up for sale but I don't want to deal with crating it & shipping, unless it is something the UPS store could handle. It would like to find a new home soonish. From cwn74 at aol.com Fri Dec 12 19:39:41 2008 From: cwn74 at aol.com (Clark W. Nicholls) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:39:41 -0500 Subject: [Fot] FS: Triumph_GT6_Rallycross_Special in UK Message-ID: <666359C43A9F46F99B7785B3D24C4C6E@semperon3400> I came across this. Interesting car! http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listing/16765/Triumph_GT6_Rallycross_Special.h tml Usual disclaimer, I know nothing... Clark Clark W. Nicholls "Reality... It's not what you think." From philhyer at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 20:00:29 2008 From: philhyer at gmail.com (Phil Hyer) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:00:29 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Free Stag Parts Message-ID: As listed in south Florida craigslist http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/pts/955373365.html From budscars at comcast.net Sat Dec 13 12:59:00 2008 From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 11:59:00 -0800 Subject: [Fot] GT6 PROJECT CAR IN SAN FRAN BAY AREA Message-ID: <82A0210DA44641259E89EF2965FE5B31@Bud> Hiu Gang..GT 6 project...all there..needs complete resto. with spare engine available..I don't know the price.. contact John Sidler at jsisler at cruzio.com Racer Bud From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 14 05:56:32 2008 From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:56:32 -0500 Subject: [Fot] FS: Triumph_GT6_Rallycross_Special in UK In-Reply-To: <666359C43A9F46F99B7785B3D24C4C6E@semperon3400> Message-ID: Interesting car, not really a GT6, but a Spit-6 with an after-market top. Also a left hooker. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Clark W. Nicholls Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 9:40 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] FS: Triumph_GT6_Rallycross_Special in UK I came across this. Interesting car! http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listing/16765/Triumph_GT6_Rallycross_Special.h tml Usual disclaimer, I know nothing... Clark Clark W. Nicholls "Reality... It's not what you think." Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From cartravel at pobox.com Sun Dec 14 07:59:21 2008 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:59:21 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Parts needed In-Reply-To: <001201c95c8b$8a123b70$6401a8c0@HP> References: <001201c95c8b$8a123b70$6401a8c0@HP> Message-ID: <49451F49.7050601@pobox.com> I have played with an engine simulator quite a bit. Mine is called Engine Analyzer from Performance Trends. I don't have enough data to dial it in, and I have my doubts about how accurate some of these cheap simulators are. I believe they are useful for indicating modifications to look at, but I would not count on it giving you quantitative results. I'm sure you could get quantitative results if you had one of the high dollar simulators and boat loads for flow and dyno data. I can only dream. Larry Mark Eginton wrote: > Found pistons from Joe A - just what the doctor ordered. Considering a cam > ground by ISKY 555 or 666 recommendation from Joe. Thinking about asking Santa > for a ProSim Tabletop dyno program to play with over the holidaze to see how > the hp torque profiles look. > > There is a calibration option - does anyone have a build sheet for a TR3/4 > motor and an engine dyno test? Don't dig it out yet till I get serious about > this. I would be happy to share the database tuned to 4cyl tr3/4 if it all > comes together. > > Best, > > M From jmwagner at greenheart.com Sun Dec 14 19:46:27 2008 From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:46:27 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Justin: EARLY TR2 JACK WANTED Message-ID: <4945C503.9070002@greenheart.com> I had no luck with this, I'm going to give it another shot, as finding this could like an Xmas present for myself.... --Justin WANTED: EARLY TR2 JACK See image: http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll126/InvestorImage/WANTEDTR2Jack.jpg Wanted: Original Early TR2 Jack, Part Number 107652, Approximately 21 inches long. (Note the exposed threads. Not looking for reproductions or later models.) Also looking for these other original tools: "Spanner, tube 1/2" x .56" A/F", "Spanner, sparking plug", "Spanner, adjustable", "Tommy Bar", "Screwdriver", "Gauge, feeler, assembly". I'm trying to put together the original tool kit for my very early 1954 TR2. Looking for good condition with a patina matching the age of the car and time spent in driven car. (I'm not trying to put together a set that looks like it came from the factory yesterday.) Let me know your price. I could also trade silicone valve cover gaskets... once I have made another run of them. Thanks Justin jmwagner at greenheart.com From budscars at comcast.net Sun Dec 14 20:32:45 2008 From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:32:45 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Justin: EARLY TR2 JACK WANTED References: <4945C503.9070002@greenheart.com> Message-ID: <6DCF3D180A3541C9A6A0C17BD307D4FB@Bud> Hi Justin..They are very difficult to find Racer Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Wagner" To: "Friends of Triumph" ; "Triumphs" Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 6:46 PM Subject: [Fot] Justin: EARLY TR2 JACK WANTED >I had no luck with this, I'm going to give it another shot, as finding > this could like an Xmas present for myself.... --Justin > > WANTED: EARLY TR2 JACK > > See image: > http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll126/InvestorImage/WANTEDTR2Jack.jpg > > Wanted: Original Early TR2 Jack, Part Number 107652, Approximately 21 > inches long. (Note the exposed threads. Not looking for reproductions > or later models.) Also looking for these other original tools: > "Spanner, tube 1/2" x .56" A/F", "Spanner, sparking plug", "Spanner, > adjustable", "Tommy Bar", "Screwdriver", "Gauge, feeler, assembly". I'm > trying to put together the original tool kit for my very early 1954 > TR2. Looking for good condition with a patina matching the age of the > car and time spent in driven car. (I'm not trying to put together a > set that looks like it came from the factory yesterday.) > > Let me know your price. I could also trade silicone valve cover > gaskets... once I have made another run of them. > > Thanks > > Justin > jmwagner at greenheart.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From mark at bradakis.com Mon Dec 15 02:27:51 2008 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:27:51 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Back on track? Message-ID: <49462317.1010106@bradakis.com> http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=11 mjb. From harmug at us.ibm.com Mon Dec 15 08:11:15 2008 From: harmug at us.ibm.com (George Harmuth) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:11:15 -0500 Subject: [Fot] GT6 restoration In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm restoring a 70 GT6 +. The weather strip around the door is gone and I bought a few lengths of repro, all rubber type, not Furflex gasket material with the imbedded metal clips. Does anyone have any tips or tricks for doing the install? It looks like I need to spread the clips open somewhat so they clear the interior parts and crimp it back down when I'm done. Is there any quick or easy way to do this? I was thinking of using a plexiglass ice scrapper to open the channel up with out doing any damage to the rubber and vise grip type welding clamp to crimp things back but I'm open to suggestions. Do you add adhesive too or are the clamps enough? Also, as part of the restore my wife wants to make her own door finishers in a color other than the standard black. The current ones have hardened up and are very brittle so just recovering them is not an option. As anyone built a set of these from scratch? What did you use for a core? thanks mike From sbracing at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 15 10:53:22 2008 From: sbracing at sbcglobal.net (Steven Benford Jr) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:53:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Make Uncle Jack Smile Message-ID: <962148.14085.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I received a Christmas card from Francis Drews last week, and that got me started thinking about how much I miss Uncle Jack. A man, and his family, that have touched so many lives. With this being the Christmas season, I ask that all of you give back to Jack in some way. I don't care with who or how much, but please make a donation to an organization in honor of Jack. Drop some money in the red bucket, give something extra to your house of faith, make a donation to the Red Cross / American Lung Assoc. / Heart Assoc., give blood, take some can goods to a food bank, etc.... When you do it, think of Jack. I am faithful that he will most certainly hear you and smile. Steve From GSFuqua1 at aol.com Mon Dec 15 12:06:03 2008 From: GSFuqua1 at aol.com (GSFuqua1 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:06:03 EST Subject: [Fot] Make Uncle Jack Smile Message-ID: Great idea Steve!! Thanks for bringing it up. Gary Fuqua **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) From kaskas at cox.net Mon Dec 15 13:28:19 2008 From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:28:19 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Make Uncle Jack Smile In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <885C867757D9465680C69F2347E4511C@KasPC> While everyone is thinking about the holidays you might also remember our keeper of the FOT flame in Salt Lake City, Mark Bradakis. Nice time to send a few bucks. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Make Uncle Jack Smile > Great idea Steve!! Thanks for bringing it up. > > Gary Fuqua > **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and > favorite sites in one place. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From jmwagner at greenheart.com Mon Dec 15 22:27:27 2008 From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:27:27 -0800 Subject: [Fot] A better way to knock off your spinners Message-ID: <49473C3F.3080205@greenheart.com> Cool looking tool! A better way to knock off your spinners: http://www.knockoffspinnertool.com/home From rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com Tue Dec 16 19:47:29 2008 From: rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com (Bob) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:47:29 -0500 Subject: [Fot] spindles Message-ID: <49486841.4020205@cfl.rr.com> Group, What are the differences between TR3 and TR6 spindles? thxx, Bob From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 17 06:51:35 2008 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis DeLap) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:51:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Detroit Locker Message-ID: <776573.14031.qm@web81706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Amici I've got a Detroit locker here that I am working on for future use. My question is this - The differential carrier has bearings that press onto each side. One side is worn so that the bearing just drops on and spins. This seems to be a common problem with these old beasts. Can this area be welded up and reground to get back to spec? ........or any other fixes? Thanks Dennis DeLap From bswope959 at msn.com Wed Dec 17 15:41:33 2008 From: bswope959 at msn.com (Bill Swope) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:41:33 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Make Uncle Jack Smile In-Reply-To: <885C867757D9465680C69F2347E4511C@KasPC> References: <885C867757D9465680C69F2347E4511C@KasPC> Message-ID: Any one got a-address for Jerry Burr In North Ca.? Vintage racer Wm. (Bill) Swope dba C ME GO Racing 1030 Green Valley Rd. NW Los Ranchos, N M 87107 bswope959 at msn.com (505) 345-6235; fax (505) 345-1180 ----- Original Message ----- From: Kas Kastner To: GSFuqua1 at aol.com ; sbracing at sbcglobal.net ; fot at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Make Uncle Jack Smile While everyone is thinking about the holidays you might also remember our keeper of the FOT flame in Salt Lake City, Mark Bradakis. Nice time to send a few bucks. ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: >; > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Make Uncle Jack Smile > Great idea Steve!! Thanks for bringing it up. > > Gary Fuqua > **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and > favorite sites in one place. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom000000 10) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html http://www.fot-racing.com Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From rocky at spitfire4.com Wed Dec 17 17:12:10 2008 From: rocky at spitfire4.com (Rocky Entriken) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:12:10 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Detroit Locker References: <776573.14031.qm@web81706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sure. It's just a mounting surface. I had one once on my Mk. 1 Spitfire, repaired it so many times it finally got "used up" and we just welded up a rear end. Decided I liked the welded rear better. With the limited slip, even with big axles I'd snap an axle about once a year. Nice thing was I could keep going. Done more than one race with one-wheel drive. With the welded rear when I snap an axle I'm done. It just tears everything up. BUT, I've only broken two axles since I've had the welded rear and that's more than 15 years now. IOW, the axles survive a lot better, probably because there's so much less slop in the rear end. --Rocky Entriken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis DeLap" To: "FOT" Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 7:51 AM Subject: [Fot] Detroit Locker > Amici > > I've got a Detroit locker here that I am working on for future use. > My question is this - > The differential carrier has bearings that press onto each side. One side > is worn so that the bearing just drops on and spins. This seems to be a > common problem with these old beasts. Can this area be welded up and > reground to get back to spec? ........or any other fixes? > > Thanks > Dennis DeLap > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 18 10:45:09 2008 From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:45:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] LeMans Message-ID: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Movie alert: Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. Doug From tlizzard at msn.com Thu Dec 18 10:47:49 2008 From: tlizzard at msn.com (Terry Stetler) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:47:49 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LeMans In-Reply-To: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Best racing movie ever. Terry Stetler ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Mitchell To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:45 PM Subject: [Fot] LeMans Movie alert: Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. Doug _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html http://www.fot-racing.com Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From andre at gt6.ca Thu Dec 18 10:51:52 2008 From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:51:52 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LeMans In-Reply-To: References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4362ae390812180951u216be08ajc9ed200a360c98b2@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, I mean when was the last time you saw a movie with almost ZERO dialog for 15mins. Love that movie so much I have this in my basement. http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/gallery/02-05-05/slides/IMG_3198.JPG http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/diy-posterbox/images/lightbox.gif A. 2008/12/18 Terry Stetler : > Best racing movie ever. > > Terry Stetler > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Doug Mitchell > To: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:45 PM > Subject: [Fot] LeMans > > > Movie alert: > > Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. > > Doug > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net > http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot stinfo/fot> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > -- Andre Rousseau - andre at gt6.ca '68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/ Ottawa, ON, Canada From budscars at comcast.net Thu Dec 18 11:06:53 2008 From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:06:53 -0800 Subject: [Fot] LeMans References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4362ae390812180951u216be08ajc9ed200a360c98b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I've got an old LP of Lemans that I play as background music while I'm cooking my Racer Bud Pasta..(it's warped but doesn't skip)..(the record, not the pasta or racer Bud)..Another good sound track is 'A MAN AND A WOMAN' Racer Bud..spitfire #21 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andre Rousseau" To: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] LeMans > Yeah, I mean when was the last time you saw a movie with almost ZERO > dialog for 15mins. > > Love that movie so much I have this in my basement. > > http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/gallery/02-05-05/slides/IMG_3198.JPG > > http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/diy-posterbox/images/lightbox.gif > > A. > > 2008/12/18 Terry Stetler : >> Best racing movie ever. >> >> Terry Stetler >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Doug Mitchell >> To: fot at autox.team.net >> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:45 PM >> Subject: [Fot] LeMans >> >> >> Movie alert: >> >> Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. >> >> Doug >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net >> http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Fot mailing list >> Fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot> stinfo/fot> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Fot mailing list >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> > > > > -- > Andre Rousseau - andre at gt6.ca > '68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/ > Ottawa, ON, Canada > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From andre at gt6.ca Thu Dec 18 11:13:26 2008 From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:13:26 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LeMans In-Reply-To: References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4362ae390812180951u216be08ajc9ed200a360c98b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4362ae390812181013k448e06c8ic72bebdd3cb2183@mail.gmail.com> I love my DVD copy... 5.1 one oh baby. A. 2008/12/18 RACER BUD : > I've got an old LP of Lemans that I play as background music while I'm > cooking my Racer Bud Pasta..(it's warped but doesn't skip)..(the record, not > the pasta or racer Bud)..Another good sound track is 'A MAN AND A WOMAN' > Racer Bud..spitfire #21 > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andre Rousseau" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:51 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] LeMans > > >> Yeah, I mean when was the last time you saw a movie with almost ZERO >> dialog for 15mins. >> >> Love that movie so much I have this in my basement. >> >> http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/gallery/02-05-05/slides/IMG_3198.JPG >> >> http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/diy-posterbox/images/lightbox.gif >> >> A. >> >> 2008/12/18 Terry Stetler : >>> >>> Best racing movie ever. >>> >>> Terry Stetler >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Doug Mitchell >>> To: fot at autox.team.net >>> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:45 PM >>> Subject: [Fot] LeMans >>> >>> >>> Movie alert: >>> >>> Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. >>> >>> Doug >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net >>> http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Fot mailing list >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot>> stinfo/fot> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Fot mailing list >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Andre Rousseau - andre at gt6.ca >> '68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/ >> Ottawa, ON, Canada >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Fot mailing list >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> > > -- Andre Rousseau - andre at gt6.ca '68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/ Ottawa, ON, Canada From colordog.1 at earthlink.net Thu Dec 18 11:38:44 2008 From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (steve belfer) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:38:44 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Between race and trackside maintence Message-ID: <632719001-1229625572-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1966631242-@bxe296.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> How often do you do the following? Change the oil and filter. Replace rusty radiator water Gap Plugs Replace Plugs Adj. Valves Adj. Points. Adj SU carbs Inspect main bearings. Rebuild motor Steve Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From N197TR4 at cs.com Thu Dec 18 11:43:31 2008 From: N197TR4 at cs.com (N197TR4 at cs.com) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:43:31 EST Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? Message-ID: This should be easy, eh? I need to get a coil for the AMBRO. I think the one on the TR4 #197 is something I got from O'Reilly Auto Parts. Thanks From Billb at bnj.com Thu Dec 18 11:54:43 2008 From: Billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:54:43 -1000 Subject: [Fot] Between race and trackside maintence In-Reply-To: <632719001-1229625572-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1966631242-@bxe296.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <632719001-1229625572-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1966631242-@bxe296.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <6C50A3CD-4568-4553-97B5-72D204E06293@bnj.com> You missed: Leakdown test --every few race weekends Check brakes every race weekend Check wheel bearings --every few race weekends check ball joints, heim joints, nut and bolt -- every race weekend. I'm generally a lot less interested in the motor than I am in the mechanical condition of the car. I don't rely on tech inspection to catch these things, it's much too variable. On Dec 18, 2008, at 8:38 AM, steve belfer wrote: > How often do you do the following? > > Change the oil and filter. Pretty much every two race weekends > > Replace rusty radiator water . Whenever I pull the head off > > Gap Plugs. Rarely > > Replace Plugs. Rarely > > Adj. Valves Check once per race weekend, adjust as needed > > Adj. Points. Almost never > > Adj SU carbs Webers--do an occasional sync check > > Inspect main bearings. Once a season--center main only > > Rebuild motor As needed--probably every two seasons > > > Steve > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > Bill Babcock Babcock & Jenkins Billb at bnj.com 503.936.7660 www.bnj.com Editor Ke Nalu e-Magazine Paddlesurfing's Web Journal Bill at kenalu.com www.kenalu.com blog: www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog From Billb at bnj.com Thu Dec 18 11:55:53 2008 From: Billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:55:53 -1000 Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <800C47DD-C132-4C20-B22B-C16433BD6BC3@bnj.com> I'd go to the same source. Cheap coils work fine. I bet they are all made in the same plant somewhere in India or Mexico. On Dec 18, 2008, at 8:43 AM, N197TR4 at cs.com wrote: > This should be easy, eh? > > I need to get a coil for the AMBRO. > > I think the one on the TR4 #197 is something I got from O'Reilly > Auto Parts. > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > Bill Babcock Babcock & Jenkins Billb at bnj.com 503.936.7660 www.bnj.com Editor Ke Nalu e-Magazine Paddlesurfing's Web Journal Bill at kenalu.com www.kenalu.com blog: www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog From spitlist at cox.net Thu Dec 18 12:42:28 2008 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:42:28 -0700 Subject: [Fot] LeMans In-Reply-To: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <69CC1DAB5D5744F385821C91846ED091@newcomputer> I discovered it this morning and set my DVR to record. Joe. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Doug Mitchell Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:45 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] LeMans Movie alert: Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. Doug Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From herald948 at aol.com Thu Dec 18 13:03:37 2008 From: herald948 at aol.com (Andrew Mace) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:03:37 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LeMans In-Reply-To: <4362ae390812180951u216be08ajc9ed200a360c98b2@mail.gmail.com> References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4362ae390812180951u216be08ajc9ed200a360c98b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CB2F62D914EE65-1170-267@WEBMAIL-DG05.sim.aol.com> -----Original Message----- From: Andre Rousseau Yeah, I mean when was the last time you saw a movie with almost ZERO dialog for 15mins. ==AM== Other than Mel Brooks' "Silent Movie," good point! :-) --Andy Mace *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant for The Vintage Triumph Register: http://www.vtr.org Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database at its new URL: http://triumph-herald.us From rocky at spitfire4.com Thu Dec 18 14:21:13 2008 From: rocky at spitfire4.com (Rocky Entriken) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:21:13 -0600 Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? References: <800C47DD-C132-4C20-B22B-C16433BD6BC3@bnj.com> Message-ID: <7A0E40974BF348729542231578BBFEF5@S1099895562> Cheap coils work fine if you have a cheap (stock) ignition system. I have a Lumenition electronic ignition on mine and a cheap coil won't drive it, so I also have a Lumenition coil. --Rocky Entriken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Babcock" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? > I'd go to the same source. Cheap coils work fine. I bet they are all > made in the same plant somewhere in India or Mexico. > > On Dec 18, 2008, at 8:43 AM, N197TR4 at cs.com wrote: > >> This should be easy, eh? >> >> I need to get a coil for the AMBRO. >> >> I think the one on the TR4 #197 is something I got from O'Reilly >> Auto Parts. >> >> Thanks >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Fot mailing list >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> > > Bill Babcock > Babcock & Jenkins > Billb at bnj.com > 503.936.7660 > www.bnj.com > > Editor > Ke Nalu e-Magazine > Paddlesurfing's Web Journal > > Bill at kenalu.com > www.kenalu.com > blog: www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From BillDentin at aol.com Thu Dec 18 14:54:02 2008 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:54:02 EST Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? Message-ID: In a message dated 12/18/2008 3:22:06 PM Central Standard Time, rocky at spitfire4.com writes: > Cheap coils work fine if you have a cheap (stock) ignition system. > > I have a Lumenition electronic ignition on mine and a cheap coil won't drive > > it, so I also have a Lumenition coil. > I always thought using a Lucas Sport Coil looked really British. Don't know if it was good or bad for a traditional ignition system though. But I always understood that the electronic ignition systems don't like the super/sport coils, but prefer the standard (cheap) coils. Any chance the Luminition coil is their way of seeing you don't use the 'super coil'? Bill Dentinger ************** One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp& icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) From william.tobin3 at verizon.net Thu Dec 18 16:17:35 2008 From: william.tobin3 at verizon.net (WILLIAM TOBIN) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:17:35 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LeMans References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003b01c96166$d0a60730$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> Hi all, I also like the movie, have a copy. But I also like Grand Prix; anything with James Garner and EM Saint can't be all bad. Also if you look closely, you'll see some of the real GP drivers of the day in some shots. Good soundtrack also. I haven't seen it yet but am told The World's Fastest Indian is also very good. Merry Christmas, Bill----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Mitchell" To: Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:45 PM Subject: [Fot] LeMans > Movie alert: > > Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. > > Doug > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From vintage.racer at comcast.net Thu Dec 18 16:52:53 2008 From: vintage.racer at comcast.net (Gary Horstkorta) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:52:53 -0800 Subject: [Fot] LeMans In-Reply-To: <003b01c96166$d0a60730$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <003b01c96166$d0a60730$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> Message-ID: <000701c9616b$bed07fe0$3c717fa0$@racer@comcast.net> Bill: I agree with both your cinematic choices and "The World's Fastest Indian" is quite good as well although it really condenses his life story. Read the book or get the DVD (includes extra material) to get the full extent of his amazing life. He certainly lived it to the fullest and on his own terms. Gary -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WILLIAM TOBIN Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 3:18 PM To: Doug Mitchell; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] LeMans Hi all, I also like the movie, have a copy. But I also like Grand Prix; anything with James Garner and EM Saint can't be all bad. Also if you look closely, you'll see some of the real GP drivers of the day in some shots. Good soundtrack also. I haven't seen it yet but am told The World's Fastest Indian is also very good. Merry Christmas, Bill----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Mitchell" To: Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:45 PM Subject: [Fot] LeMans > Movie alert: > > Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. > > Doug > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From spitlist at cox.net Thu Dec 18 17:04:37 2008 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:04:37 -0700 Subject: [Fot] LeMans In-Reply-To: <000701c9616b$bed07fe0$3c717fa0$@racer@comcast.net> References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com><003b01c96166$d0a60730$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> <000701c9616b$bed07fe0$3c717fa0$@racer@comcast.net> Message-ID: <29519FEEBC574A8780AD45AC21E1649D@newcomputer> I couldn't agree more on the Indian story. Joe C. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Horstkorta Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 4:53 PM To: 'WILLIAM TOBIN'; 'Doug Mitchell'; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] LeMans Bill: I agree with both your cinematic choices and "The World's Fastest Indian" is quite good as well although it really condenses his life story. Read the book or get the DVD (includes extra material) to get the full extent of his amazing life. He certainly lived it to the fullest and on his own terms. Gary -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WILLIAM TOBIN Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 3:18 PM To: Doug Mitchell; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] LeMans Hi all, I also like the movie, have a copy. But I also like Grand Prix; anything with James Garner and EM Saint can't be all bad. Also if you look closely, you'll see some of the real GP drivers of the day in some shots. Good soundtrack also. I haven't seen it yet but am told The World's Fastest Indian is also very good. Merry Christmas, Bill----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Mitchell" To: Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:45 PM Subject: [Fot] LeMans > Movie alert: > > Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. > > Doug > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From stutzmans at comcast.net Thu Dec 18 17:16:58 2008 From: stutzmans at comcast.net (Stutzman) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:16:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? References: Message-ID: <005501c9616f$1b8f9ab0$c80aa8c0@D9DGQM31> rule of thumb - stock engine - stock coil hot engine - sport coil or equivelant Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; Cc: Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? > In a message dated 12/18/2008 3:22:06 PM Central Standard Time, > rocky at spitfire4.com writes: > > >> Cheap coils work fine if you have a cheap (stock) ignition system. >> >> I have a Lumenition electronic ignition on mine and a cheap coil won't >> drive >> >> it, so I also have a Lumenition coil. >> > > I always thought using a Lucas Sport Coil looked really British. Don't > know > if it was good or bad for a traditional ignition system though. > > But I always understood that the electronic ignition systems don't like > the > super/sport coils, but prefer the standard (cheap) coils. Any chance the > Luminition coil is their way of seeing you don't use the 'super coil'? > > Bill Dentinger > > > > ************** > One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, > Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp& > icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From jmwagner at greenheart.com Thu Dec 18 20:30:35 2008 From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:30:35 -0800 Subject: [Fot] triumph Spitfire race car - $4800 (Palos Verdes Peninsula) Message-ID: <494B155B.8040202@greenheart.com> saw this on craigslist.... Triumph Spitfire race car - $4800 (Palos Verdes Peninsula) Reply to: sale-955842014 at craigslist.org [? ] Date: 2008-12-12, 5:01PM PST 1965 Triumph spitfire, frame off restoration over 70 % completed. New fuel cell,aluminum panels, seat, roll bar, reinforced frame and supporting structure, and other new parts through out, original revolution wheels, Kas Kasner parts, lightweight Bonnet and Deck lid. too much work that was done and parts to list Log book from mid 60's, vintage road racing eligible, or could be made street legal. Currently on rolling dolly. Great father/son or individual project. Must sell, great buy for someone who wants to get into vintage racing cheap, need the room. steve 310-600-9024 http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/955842014.html From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net Thu Dec 18 23:01:24 2008 From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:01:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <341492.73038.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Okay, at the risk of insulting everyone on the list, I use the Bosch Blue coil in everything I can. Just a favorite since I owned my first Bimmer. I haven't had a British car puke a German coil yet. -Ed- --- On Thu, 12/18/08, N197TR4 at cs.com wrote: From: N197TR4 at cs.com Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? To: fot at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 12:43 PM This should be easy, eh? I need to get a coil for the AMBRO. I think the one on the TR4 #197 is something I got from O'Reilly Auto Parts. Thanks Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From macdonaldp at rogers.com Fri Dec 19 10:15:18 2008 From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:15:18 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Tony A2z Message-ID: Check out this website foor great story and pictures. Early Group 44 pictures...(Dodge Dart) Page 46 Kas picture Lemans story and cars. Paul [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] From tr4racing at googlemail.com Sun Dec 21 03:46:45 2008 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:46:45 +0100 Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I use a BOSCH red colored coil with 30 KV output. This coil has an external resistor to fit to the TR4 and with the TR6 you can spoil the resistor because the TR6 has this resistor already fitted to the system. I use before that coil the blue Bosch but with the higher compression rate I thought it is time to move on to more power. Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von N197TR4 at cs.com Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Dezember 2008 19:44 An: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? This should be easy, eh? I need to get a coil for the AMBRO. I think the one on the TR4 #197 is something I got from O'Reilly Auto Parts. Thanks From dkettler at powercom.net Sun Dec 21 13:55:06 2008 From: dkettler at powercom.net (David Kettler) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 14:55:06 -0600 Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? References: Message-ID: <022D9BD408C441FA888529AA35F8AB2A@David> I have a stock engine/ignition system. I put in a Lucas Sport Coil about 4 years ago. The day before I was to drive 700 miles to Watkins Glen, the car didn't start. Traced it to the sport coil. Put in a used coil made in Israel which I've had laying around and it made the trip there and back without a problem. I'm not sure what I'm going to put in next. I'm leaning toward a stock Lucas coil. Dave Kettler 66TR4A ----- Original Message ----- From: "MadMarx" To: ; Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 4:46 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? >I use a BOSCH red colored coil with 30 KV output. This coil has an external > resistor to fit to the TR4 and with the TR6 you can spoil the resistor > because the TR6 has this resistor already fitted to the system. > > I use before that coil the blue Bosch but with the higher compression rate > I > thought it is time to move on to more power. > > Chris > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im > Auftrag von N197TR4 at cs.com > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Dezember 2008 19:44 > An: fot at autox.team.net > Betreff: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? > > This should be easy, eh? > > I need to get a coil for the AMBRO. > > I think the one on the TR4 #197 is something I got from O'Reilly Auto > Parts. > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From rocky at spitfire4.com Sun Dec 21 15:59:37 2008 From: rocky at spitfire4.com (Rocky Entriken) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:59:37 -0600 Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? References: <022D9BD408C441FA888529AA35F8AB2A@David> Message-ID: <6E47D2A920A7478DBC16BDD0ACFA53C9@S1099895562> Y'know, as much as we love our LBCs, it's amusing how many of us don't love Lord Lucas's accessories. Try an Accel or a Mallory or something off O'Reilly's shelf. Lord Lucas -- Prince of Darkness long before Ozzy Osborne Lord Lucas -- father of the intermittent wiper Why do British drink warm beer? Lucas refrigerators! I could go on.... :-) --Rocky Entriken ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Kettler" To: "MadMarx" ; ; Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? >I have a stock engine/ignition system. I put in a Lucas Sport Coil about 4 >years ago. The day before I was to drive 700 miles to Watkins Glen, the >car didn't start. Traced it to the sport coil. Put in a used coil made in >Israel which I've had laying around and it made the trip there and back >without a problem. > > I'm not sure what I'm going to put in next. I'm leaning toward a stock > Lucas coil. > > Dave Kettler > > 66TR4A > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MadMarx" > To: ; > Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 4:46 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? > > >>I use a BOSCH red colored coil with 30 KV output. This coil has an >>external >> resistor to fit to the TR4 and with the TR6 you can spoil the resistor >> because the TR6 has this resistor already fitted to the system. >> >> I use before that coil the blue Bosch but with the higher compression >> rate I >> thought it is time to move on to more power. >> >> Chris >> >> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im >> Auftrag von N197TR4 at cs.com >> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Dezember 2008 19:44 >> An: fot at autox.team.net >> Betreff: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? >> >> This should be easy, eh? >> >> I need to get a coil for the AMBRO. >> >> I think the one on the TR4 #197 is something I got from O'Reilly Auto >> Parts. >> >> Thanks >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Fot mailing list >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From triosan at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 19:37:39 2008 From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:37:39 -0800 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Need a TR6 4 speed mainshaft In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8cbd782d0812211837jf153613u80824c7b0eb0f349@mail.gmail.com> I have late 4 speed tranny that had a j-type od till the diff broke at maximum torque in 2nd gear -- resulted in chewing up the end of the main shaft and ruining the OD mechanicals. Built a new race car. [not cause the diff broke, still have that car -- it is for lapping days and spirited street driving, but not racing. The new car has about 200 hp at the wheels [I guess,given how it performed versus the one I had dynoed at 180]. IT came with Goodparts 4.08 Nissan rear end and a non-working a-type OD. I had to lift at 7000 in 4th. Blew the engine up [something weird in oiling to #6 rod bearing -- I have lots of oil tricks so it should not have happend --suspect FOD]. So, what I am doing is building a close ratio box in the old j-type tranny [which is why I needed the mainshaft of which I now have two]. I have swapped the 4.08 diff for a 3.5. That should make my top end a more reasonable 6500. The engine breathing and cam seem to make best torque and hp above 4500. Can hardly wait to get it all together again. Other things I am doing this year is installing a Quartermaster two disk clutch, an ATI fluid damper, main bearing strengthening kit [which includes a steel housing for the rear main bearing and a steel sealing block] and an aluminum sump. The last two come from Racestorations in the UK. I got them at $1.45 to the pound!. The aluminum pan is a work of art -- it is very much stiffer and holds more oil -- and includes a windage tray. Racestorations has another couple of really trick parts I will get next year. These include heim joints for the upper a-arms so you can adjust each independently -- will allow really dialing in camber and caster. The other neat trick is machining the trailing arm and installing bearings instead of the bushings. http://www.racetorations.co.uk/catbend.html Chuck Happy racing! On 12/21/08, MMoore8425 at aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 12/14/2008 11:55:28 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > triosan at gmail.com writes: > > Anyone have a later tranny TR6 main shaft they would like to sell? > Someone > who converted their 4 speed to OD would be a good candidate.Thanks, > > > > > Have you found your mainshaft? > > Where are you? > > Thanks > Mike Moore > > Engineering Manager > CL Moore & Associates, Inc. > 17590 Holiday Drive, Morgan Hill, > California 95037 > 408-782-1272 fax 408-782-1372 > **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, > Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) > -- Chuck Arnold From Billb at bnj.com Sun Dec 21 21:47:01 2008 From: Billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:47:01 -1000 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Need a TR6 4 speed mainshaft In-Reply-To: <8cbd782d0812211837jf153613u80824c7b0eb0f349@mail.gmail.com> References: <8cbd782d0812211837jf153613u80824c7b0eb0f349@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Take it easy with dialing in caster--you'll put a bind in the lower pivot. And talk to Garmey--he has prettier parts for the upper arms than Heim joints. On Dec 21, 2008, at 4:37 PM, Chuck Arnold wrote: > I have late 4 speed tranny that had a j-type od till the diff broke at > maximum torque in 2nd gear -- resulted in chewing up the end of the > main shaft and ruining the OD mechanicals. Built a new race car. > [not cause the diff broke, still have that car -- it is for lapping > days and spirited street driving, but not racing. The new car has > about 200 hp at the wheels [I guess,given how it performed versus the > one I had dynoed at 180]. IT came with Goodparts 4.08 Nissan rear end > and a non-working a-type OD. I had to lift at 7000 in 4th. Blew the > engine up [something weird in oiling to #6 rod bearing -- I have lots > of oil tricks so it should not have happend --suspect FOD]. > > So, what I am doing is building a close ratio box in the old j-type > tranny [which is why I needed the mainshaft of which I now have two]. > I have swapped the 4.08 diff for a 3.5. That should make my top end a > more reasonable 6500. The engine breathing and cam seem to make best > torque and hp above 4500. Can hardly wait to get it all together > again. Other things I am doing this year is installing a Quartermaster > two disk clutch, an ATI fluid damper, main bearing strengthening kit > [which includes a steel housing for the rear main bearing and a steel > sealing block] and an aluminum sump. The last two come from > Racestorations in the UK. I got them at $1.45 to the pound!. The > aluminum pan is a work of art -- it is very much stiffer and holds > more oil -- and includes a windage tray. > > Racestorations has another couple of really trick parts I will get > next year. These include heim joints for the upper a-arms so you can > adjust each independently -- will allow really dialing in camber and > caster. The other neat trick is machining the trailing arm and > installing bearings instead of the bushings. > > http://www.racetorations.co.uk/catbend.html > > Chuck > Happy racing! > > > > On 12/21/08, MMoore8425 at aol.com wrote: >> >> >> In a message dated 12/14/2008 11:55:28 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> triosan at gmail.com writes: >> >> Anyone have a later tranny TR6 main shaft they would like to sell? >> Someone >> who converted their 4 speed to OD would be a good candidate.Thanks, >> >> >> >> >> Have you found your mainshaft? >> >> Where are you? >> >> Thanks >> Mike Moore >> >> Engineering Manager >> CL Moore & Associates, Inc. >> 17590 Holiday Drive, Morgan Hill, >> California 95037 >> 408-782-1272 fax 408-782-1372 >> **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL >> Mail, >> Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. >> (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025 >> ) >> > > > -- > Chuck Arnold > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > Bill Babcock Babcock & Jenkins Billb at bnj.com 503.936.7660 www.bnj.com Editor Ke Nalu e-Magazine Paddlesurfing's Web Journal Bill at kenalu.com www.kenalu.com blog: www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog From macdonaldp at rogers.com Mon Dec 22 07:35:16 2008 From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:35:16 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR6 Race Car Message-ID: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=330295581 315&ih=014&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem= Just saw this on Ebay...NFI. Paul [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] From budscars at comcast.net Mon Dec 22 13:33:33 2008 From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:33:33 -0800 Subject: [Fot] 1970 SPITFIRE FOR SALE..NEAR SACRAMENTO, CA Message-ID: <812E97F9907C449287EEA453712CEBAE@Bud> Hi gang...1970 spitfire for sale runs and drives...needs seats 1600.00...contact James Long at blackbox1966 at yahoo.com Racer bud..spitfire #21 From jmwagner at greenheart.com Mon Dec 22 19:20:30 2008 From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:20:30 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Triumph Spitfire race car - $4800 (Palos Verdes Peninsula) Message-ID: <49504AEE.3080001@greenheart.com> Just ran across this on Craigslist, thought I'd pass it along... --Justin Triumph Spitfire race car - $4800 (Palos Verdes Peninsula) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Reply to: sale-965661655 at craigslist.org [? ] Date: 2008-12-20, 9:02PM PST 1965 triumph spitfire race car under restoration,currently about 70 % completed, frame off restoration. Has SCCA race history, last raced June 1977 and log book. Many new parts including fuel cell, fire system, paint, aluminum interior work, has original revolution wheels, kas kassner parts, Light weight bonnet and rear deck lid. New roll bar which reinforces front and trar suspension and side impact protection. New racing windscreen etc. Great entry race car and easy restoration project. $ 4800.00 Steve 310-600-9024 http://images.craigslist.org/11a1f71383n23k73p48cke2a78b81c0c51a9d.jpg http://images.craigslist.org/1f01291gd3m13p83o78cka4dc8de12973148d.jpg http://images.craigslist.org/1f21271333ne3m33oa8ckb9fbca772f0e15d7.jpg * Location: Palos Verdes Peninsula From Guyots3 at wmconnect.com Mon Dec 22 20:36:51 2008 From: Guyots3 at wmconnect.com (Guyots3 at wmconnect.com) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:36:51 EST Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? Message-ID: In a message dated 12/21/2008 11:00:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, fot-request at autox.team.net writes: > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:46:45 +0100 > From: "MadMarx" > Subject: Re: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? > To: , > Message-ID: > !AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAADB609xTkH9Aiiet8z0UXpTCgAAAEAAAAOANABddDrRNpAbLO0GPahgBAAAAAA==@googlemail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I use a BOSCH red colored coil with 30 KV output. This coil has an external > resistor to fit to the TR4 and with the TR6 you can spoil the resistor > because the TR6 has this resistor already fitted to the system. > > I use before that coil the blue Bosch but with the higher compression rate I > thought it is time to move on to more power. > > Chris Hi Chris, We have just been having a discussion about coils on another forum. Some people favour the Bosch Red Coil over their Blue one, but I have an MSD Digital 6 Plus box and have to use a low resistance coil so will be using an MSD coil specifically designed for that application. MSD offer some awesome coils, I have NFI. Anyhow, here is a link to the forum thread. http://www.sideways-technologies.co.uk/forum/Blah.pl?m-1228840211/s-39/highlig ht-coil/#num39 Chris, I think you should join that forum, you could get some very useful information there. Best Regards Leon F Guyot From Billbab at mac.com Mon Dec 22 20:40:02 2008 From: Billbab at mac.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:40:02 -1000 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: [TR] Need a TR6 4 speed mainshaft References: Message-ID: <62D6A50A-5756-4964-BD28-797C05532756@mac.com> Oops, bounced--too long Begin forwarded message: > Tony Garmey, Horizon racing. First class fabricator, race car > restorer/builder and all around hot shoe. He did the great looking > nose on Peyote last year. Also maintains Bill Hart's cars including > the TR250K. I cc'ed him on this message in case you'd like to get in > touch with him. Great guy, does fantastic work, reasonable. > > > On Dec 22, 2008, at 5:07 PM, Allen Washatko wrote: > >> Bill, >> >> Who is Garmey? >> >> Allen >> >> On Dec 21, 2008, at 10:47 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: >> >>> Take it easy with dialing in caster--you'll put a bind in the lower >>> pivot. And talk to Garmey--he has prettier parts for the upper arms >>> than Heim joints. From tr4racing at googlemail.com Tue Dec 23 09:20:30 2008 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:20:30 +0100 Subject: [Fot] WG: I have a question...what is your favorite coil? Message-ID: The reason for the BOSCH coil isit works perfect with all the ignition systems on the market. Friends of mine used Flamethrower and other special coils that are recommended for the specific ignition systems but after some races these coils caused trouble. After installing the red BOSCH they worked. Im always after reliable parts so a coil that can be used with all ignition systems is an advantage I suppose. I only killed one blue BOSCH after I forgot to switch off the ign and left it burning for some hours. Good to have fuses in the circuit. Cheers Chris Von: Guyots3 at wmconnect.com [mailto:Guyots3 at wmconnect.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. Dezember 2008 04:37 An: fot at autox.team.net Cc: tr4racing at googlemail.com Betreff: Re: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? In a message dated 12/21/2008 11:00:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, fot-request at autox.team.net writes: Message: 1 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:46:45 +0100 From: "MadMarx" Subject: Re: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? To: , Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I use a BOSCH red colored coil with 30 KV output. This coil has an external resistor to fit to the TR4 and with the TR6 you can spoil the resistor because the TR6 has this resistor already fitted to the system. I use before that coil the blue Bosch but with the higher compression rate I thought it is time to move on to more power. Chris Hi Chris, We have just been having a discussion about coils on another forum. Some people favour the Bosch Red Coil over their Blue one, but I have an MSD Digital 6 Plus box and have to use a low resistance coil so will be using an MSD coil specifically designed for that application. MSD offer some awesome coils, I have NFI. Anyhow, here is a link to the forum thread. http://www.sideways-technologies.co.uk/forum/Blah.pl?m-1228840211/s-39/highl ight-coil/#num39 Chris, I think you should join that forum, you could get some very useful information there. Best Regards Leon F Guyot From trmarty at hotmail.com Wed Dec 24 09:27:38 2008 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:27:38 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Leo Oddi Message-ID: Leo, if your out there could you drop me an email so I can snag your e-address? thanks, Marty _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. http://windowslive.com/oneline/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_anywhere _122008 From rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com Thu Dec 25 05:34:55 2008 From: rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com (Bob) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 07:34:55 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR6 gearbox Message-ID: <49537DEF.8070709@cfl.rr.com> There was a recent post on FOT looking for a (I think) gearbox main shaft. There is one on ebay. Item number is 220332935903. Bob From klynch_6 at msn.com Thu Dec 25 12:49:46 2008 From: klynch_6 at msn.com (KEVIN LYNCH) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:49:46 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Dec. 25th Message-ID: Want to wish the group a very Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah...etc. The very best to you & yours in the coming year! Kev Lynch Colo. From budscars at comcast.net Thu Dec 25 12:57:30 2008 From: budscars at comcast.net (budscars at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:57:30 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Dec. 25th Message-ID: <380-220081242519573049@M2W017.mail2web.com> Thanks Kevin..and Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to All Racer Bud..Spitfire #21...(Santa didn't put my tranny in for me) Original Message: ----------------- From: KEVIN LYNCH klynch_6 at msn.com Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:49:46 -0700 To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Dec. 25th Want to wish the group a very Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah...etc. The very best to you & yours in the coming year! Kev Lynch Colo. Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - Microsoft. Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange From mark at bradakis.com Thu Dec 25 13:50:19 2008 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:50:19 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Off for the weekend Message-ID: <4953F20B.4070105@bradakis.com> Karen and I will be heading out to the airport soon, flying to Phoenix to spend some time with relatives. We should be back sunday night. The servers have been behaving, I'm anticipating only one problem. We have a big storm moving into SLC this evening. If the power goes out for longer than the UPS can handle it, the servers may not come back up cleanly, and Team.Net could be off the air until I get back to fix it. Hopefully there will be no interruption. Have a pleasant weekend. mjb. From budscars at comcast.net Thu Dec 25 15:16:47 2008 From: budscars at comcast.net (budscars at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 17:16:47 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Off for the weekend Message-ID: <380-2200812425221647296@M2W002.mail2web.com> thanks Mark...and thanks for 'running the show' for us Racer Bud Original Message: ----------------- From: Mark J Bradakis mark at bradakis.com Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:50:19 -0700 To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Off for the weekend Karen and I will be heading out to the airport soon, flying to Phoenix to spend some time with relatives. We should be back sunday night. The servers have been behaving, I'm anticipating only one problem. We have a big storm moving into SLC this evening. If the power goes out for longer than the UPS can handle it, the servers may not come back up cleanly, and Team.Net could be off the air until I get back to fix it. Hopefully there will be no interruption. Have a pleasant weekend. mjb. Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft. Windows. and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting From billsohl at optonline.net Fri Dec 26 15:16:55 2008 From: billsohl at optonline.net (Bill Sohl) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:16:55 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LeMans In-Reply-To: <4362ae390812180951u216be08ajc9ed200a360c98b2@mail.gmail.com> References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4362ae390812180951u216be08ajc9ed200a360c98b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Andre, Great basement decor. Where's you find the wallpaper border that is at the top of the walls? Cheers Bill Sohl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andre Rousseau" To: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] LeMans > Yeah, I mean when was the last time you saw a movie with almost ZERO > dialog for 15mins. > > Love that movie so much I have this in my basement. > > http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/gallery/02-05-05/slides/IMG_3198.JPG > > http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/diy-posterbox/images/lightbox.gif > > A. > > 2008/12/18 Terry Stetler : >> Best racing movie ever. >> >> Terry Stetler >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Doug Mitchell >> To: fot at autox.team.net >> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:45 PM >> Subject: [Fot] LeMans >> >> >> Movie alert: >> >> Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. >> >> Doug >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net >> http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Fot mailing list >> Fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot> stinfo/fot> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Fot mailing list >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> > > > > -- > Andre Rousseau - andre at gt6.ca > '68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/ > Ottawa, ON, Canada > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From andre at gt6.ca Fri Dec 26 15:40:22 2008 From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:40:22 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LeMans In-Reply-To: References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4362ae390812180951u216be08ajc9ed200a360c98b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4362ae390812261440p2e4388aerfe4d5c897a9114ed@mail.gmail.com> Ha, Hi Bill we got that Home Depot back in 2002! The latest Triumph in my ah... Stable.. A Stag. http://temp.justdrive.ca/IMG_1345.jpg 2008/12/26 Bill Sohl : > Andre, > > Great basement decor. > > Where's you find the wallpaper border that is at the top of the walls? > > Cheers > Bill Sohl > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andre Rousseau" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:51 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] LeMans > > >> Yeah, I mean when was the last time you saw a movie with almost ZERO >> dialog for 15mins. >> >> Love that movie so much I have this in my basement. >> >> http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/gallery/02-05-05/slides/IMG_3198.JPG >> >> http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/diy-posterbox/images/lightbox.gif >> >> A. >> >> 2008/12/18 Terry Stetler : >>> >>> Best racing movie ever. >>> >>> Terry Stetler >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Doug Mitchell >>> To: fot at autox.team.net >>> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:45 PM >>> Subject: [Fot] LeMans >>> >>> >>> Movie alert: >>> >>> Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. >>> >>> Doug >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net >>> http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Fot mailing list >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot>> stinfo/fot> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Fot mailing list >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Andre Rousseau - andre at gt6.ca >> '68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/ >> Ottawa, ON, Canada >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Fot mailing list >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> > > -- Andre Rousseau - andre at gt6.ca '68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/ Ottawa, ON, Canada From rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com Sat Dec 27 09:02:58 2008 From: rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com (Bob) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:02:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] OD shift knob Message-ID: <495651B2.6070405@cfl.rr.com> Anyone have a Spitfire or GT6 (or even an MGB) overdrive shift knob they would like to sell? thxx, Bob From dave at microworks.net Sun Dec 28 00:46:45 2008 From: dave at microworks.net (David W. Riddle) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:46:45 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Cool video from Firebird Message-ID: <20081228074649.XOGJ131.fed1rmmtao107.cox.net@fed1rmimpo03.cox.net> This weekend I did a complete makeover of our Kart groups website. This evening I put an edited video of two shifters with on-board cameras passing/repassing on Firebird's West track that was shot on the 20th. Enjoy... http://www.southwestkarters.com/ From andre at gt6.ca Sun Dec 28 20:01:53 2008 From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 22:01:53 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Anyone got... Message-ID: Hey anyone buy the cd from the photo guy at the Glen this yr? He captured 2 shots of my GT6, which I would love. Thanks. A. -- Andre Rousseau - andre at gt6.ca '68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/ Ottawa, ON, Canada From walt at hot-tr6.com Tue Dec 30 09:34:40 2008 From: walt at hot-tr6.com (Walter Hollowell) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:34:40 -0700 Subject: [Fot] U-Joints. Spicer Message-ID: <20081230163455.A2FBC187660@autox.team.net> For my TR6 racecar with a Quaife limited I prefer to use Spicer 5-4x u-joints. These Spicer units seem to hold up while the NAPA 344 and Neacpo 1-0005 (China made) tend to grenade. My Spicer source tells me the 5-4x is an obsolete part and will soon no longer be available. Do any other FOT members no of a strong U-joint for a TR6 you can recommend? Thank You Walt Hollowell Abq., NM _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter We are a community of 5.8 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 29027 of my spam emails to date. The Professional version does not have this message From triosan at gmail.com Tue Dec 30 09:50:14 2008 From: triosan at gmail.com (triosan at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:50:14 +0000 Subject: [Fot] U-Joints. Spicer Message-ID: Try goodparts.com ------Original Message------ From: Walter Hollowell Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] U-Joints. Spicer Sent: Dec 30, 2008 8:34 AM For my TR6 racecar with a Quaife limited I prefer to use Spicer 5-4x u-joints. These Spicer units seem to hold up while the NAPA 344 and Neacpo 1-0005 (China made) tend to grenade. My Spicer source tells me the 5-4x is an obsolete part and will soon no longer be available. Do any other FOT members no of a strong U-joint for a TR6 you can recommend? Thank You Walt Hollowell Abq., NM _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter We are a community of 5.8 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 29027 of my spam emails to date. The Professional version does not have this message _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html http://www.fot-racing.com Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Sent from my BlackBerry. smartphone with SprintSpeed From tr4racing at googlemail.com Tue Dec 30 12:00:23 2008 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:00:23 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Nuerburgring Nordschleife 400 km race In-Reply-To: <2B52E8650115BB4085979C721A085AD40A3CFC@server.Triumph.local> References: <2B52E8650115BB4085979C721A085AD40A3CFC@server.Triumph.local> Message-ID: <001201c96ab0$df120be0$9d3623a0$@com> Now...how about some photos that show cavitation of the rotor of the water pump. 128-5394.jpg 128-5391.jpg 128-5392.jpg As you can see, the wheel is in good condition but on the low pressure side of the wings there are typical signs of cavitation. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Henry Frye [mailto:henry at henryfrye.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Oktober 2008 19:54 An: MadMarx; fot at autox.team.net Betreff: RE: [Fot] Nuerburgring Nordschleife 400 km race Chris, With the parts on the race car, exact measurements are difficult to get at the moment. I am running the second generation harmonic balancer kit from Ken Gillanders. I believe he gets them from the UK. Ken, do you know what the sizes of those pulleys are? If you expect cavitation, it would be easy to hook up a pressure gauge as I described below. The purpose built water pressure gauge died, so I replaced it with an oil pressure gauge I had laying about, it works fine. Pressure is pressure... On your next race out you can watch the gauge to see if there is any drop at high revs. Mine does not. > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of MadMarx > Sent: October 02, 2008 10:06 AM > To: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Nuerburgring Nordschleife 400 km race > > Henry, > > can you tell me the sizes of your crank and water pump pulleys? > I have the stock water pump with that sharp edged impeller. I > really suspect the impeller to cavitating when turning longer > at high revs. I hold 6000 for about 30-40 seconds in on go. > > Chris > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Henry Frye [mailto:henry at henryfrye.com] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. Oktober 2008 13:55 > An: MadMarx > Betreff: RE: [Fot] Nuerburgring Nordschleife 400 km race > > Are you running a stock water pump with a stock pulley? If > so, I find it hard to believe it was cavitating with only 1/2 > liter of water loss. > > I run the narrow belt conversion, the water pump pulley is > very close to stock, in not stock size, and run to 7000+ with > a very aggressive water pump impeller and have no cavitation > issues. I have a water pressure gauge plumbed into the block > drain port at the rear of the block and it will show over 30 > pounds per square inch of pressure at max RPM. > > I routinely lose about that much water every session, I > believe most it goes into the overflow. If I do not check the > water until the engine is completely cool most of it returns > from the overflow bottle. > > Sorry your weekend was more fuss than racing. We all have them... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: MadMarxt > > Subject: Re: [Fot] Nuerburgring Nordschleife 400 km race > > > > Now the thread was burried down in the block. End of > race - I thought > > but after I told my hotelier about the misfit he invented a > head stud > > extractor while I had breakfast. With that tool it took 10 > minutes to > > get that thread part out. > > > > A half a liter water was forced out - nothing else. > > I suppose that the water pump is spinning too fast at > 6000 and start > > cavitating which cause the water loss. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image002.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image003.jpg] From william.tobin3 at verizon.net Tue Dec 30 18:56:12 2008 From: william.tobin3 at verizon.net (WILLIAM TOBIN) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:56:12 -0500 Subject: [Fot] U-Joints. Spicer References: <20081230163455.A2FBC187660@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <00bf01c96aea$fa1ac640$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> Hi, you might also try Ted Schumacher at TSI; he has some HD u-joints. 800 543-6648 Usual disclaimer: no financial interest. Happy New Year, Bill----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter Hollowell" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 11:34 AM Subject: [Fot] U-Joints. Spicer > For my TR6 racecar with a Quaife limited I prefer to use Spicer 5-4x > u-joints. These Spicer units seem to hold up while the NAPA 344 and Neacpo > 1-0005 (China made) > tend to grenade. My Spicer source tells me the 5-4x is an obsolete part and > will soon no longer be available. Do any other FOT members no of a strong > U-joint for a TR6 you can recommend? > Thank You > Walt Hollowell > Abq., NM > > _____ > > I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter > We are a community of 5.8 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 29027 of my spam emails to date. > The Professional version does not have this message > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From colordog.1 at earthlink.net Tue Dec 30 20:49:19 2008 From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (Steven Belfer) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:49:19 -0800 Subject: [Fot] When do you replace a rubber lip seal? Message-ID: <83E4150B-5088-4E72-B92D-30548CB32DC8@earthlink.net> I'm rebuilding a TR3 motor with 20 races on it. I know that's a lot. It's back from the shop and ready to put back together. It's got one of those rubber lip seal conversions. It didn't leak more than it's supposed to, ha ha. Is this lip seal a part that should be replaced? Now would be the right time to do it but it looks good and I'm on the fence between putting it back in the car and getting a new one. I've heard there are two types of these seals. How do I know which one I've got? There aren't any markings on it. So... A, can these things last 20 years? B, What should I measure to figure out what I've got C, Who sells the best ones? ~Steve From dave at microworks.net Tue Dec 30 23:02:21 2008 From: dave at microworks.net (David W. Riddle) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:02:21 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Mustang Challenge Message-ID: <20081231060237.JLDM2948.fed1rmmtao101.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> I finally saw an episode (Round 1 @ Road Atlanta and Round 2 @ Mosport) of that Mustang Challenge show on HD Theater, "Why We Race". Must say that it sure looks like most of the drivers in that series pretty much SUCK. The young, under funded, heavy set kid from Washington State that won both of those races certainly looks to be smooth, controlled and precise behind the wheel. Based on the profile they highlighted him with I would put it down to him starting in Karts and then when he moved to cars it was driving a Miata. Vehicles that you have to be smooth and controlled in. They did not highlight the background on the other drivers but I would be willing to bet that most did not cut their teeth in low horse-powered momentum type cars. Probably like quite a few students I have that come out to the track for their first DE day and start talking about getting a powerful car and getting their race license. They don't want to hear my advice that they get a Miata or a 944 first to learn the craft. Lots of carnage, loose cars, low percentage passes. There was even one moron on the radio to his crew talking about whether or not he should pass his teammate under the FCY sincd there would only be a few laps of green remaining! Sad to see so many cars wrecked for no reason. From BillDentin at aol.com Mon Dec 1 10:03:10 2008 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:03:10 EST Subject: [Fot] Side Glances (JAN 2009) Message-ID: Amici... I am sure we have more than a few Peter Egan fans on the FOT List. Peter was the Honorary Grand Marshall and Featured Banquet Speaker at the Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival at ROAD AMERICA a couple of months back. Austin Healey Sprite was the featured marque, and Mr. Egan has owned and raced more than his fair share. Team Thicko Flounder and premier Sprite owner Wm. Severin Thompson provided a Sprite named WALTER for Peter and wife Barb to use all week end. It was a really special car (UN-restored original racer from the Hey Day) still sporting tech stickers for the 50s and 60s. Peter's article embraces the car's innocence, purity, and the ton of memories it stirs in his heart. I like everything Peter Egan writes. At the end of the article he says, " Maybe in our constant club-racer quest to make our cars faster, safer, and 'more reliable' we pushed for changes that simply accelerated the rate of entropy. Every class of production racing does this, of course, until it finally brings on its own demise. Or metamorphoses into some generic, tube-framed parody of its form self, as "stock cars" have done." And, of course, I loved the classic Egan ending that reads, "So it was fun to drive WALTER just for the pure innocence of the thing; my first drive in a steroid free competition sports car. We were a little slower than the other vintage race cars, but we drove all weekend on the same head gasket. Something I've never tried before." Bill Dentinger ************** Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity& ncid=emlcntaolcom00000002) From Billb at bnj.com Mon Dec 1 11:08:20 2008 From: Billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 08:08:20 -1000 Subject: [Fot] Side Glances (JAN 2009) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1EA6E18F-47EF-405D-9F0D-6EEF1622C203@bnj.com> I too am a Peter Egan fan. Hard to understand the use of Entropy in this case, but I'm probably being too literal since I'm fighting the IQ-sapping nature of Maui by reading books on intercellular information exchange. Lots of entropy tossed around to balance those equations, and it throws me for a loop. Slow going and it makes me testy. I do think I'm losing my marbles. I spent the non-surfing parts of the last few days building a trailer to drag a 12 foot stand up paddle surfboard behind my motorcycle ( http://www.kenalu.com/). You might ask why, and the answer is "I have no idea". What I really need here is Susan's flame job Isetta with a big surfboard rack. The board would be much, much bigger than the car. Walter sounds like a real treasure. What issue is the article in? I'd like to read it. On Dec 1, 2008, at 7:03 AM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote: > Amici... > > I am sure we have more than a few Peter Egan fans on the FOT List. > Peter was > the Honorary Grand Marshall and Featured Banquet Speaker at the > Elkhart Lake > Vintage Festival at ROAD AMERICA a couple of months back. Austin > Healey > Sprite was the featured marque, and Mr. Egan has owned and raced > more than his fair > share. Team Thicko Flounder and premier Sprite owner Wm. Severin > Thompson > provided a Sprite named WALTER for Peter and wife Barb to use all > week end. It > was a really special car (UN-restored original racer from the Hey > Day) still > sporting tech stickers for the 50s and 60s. Peter's article > embraces the car's > innocence, purity, and the ton of memories it stirs in his heart. > > I like everything Peter Egan writes. At the end of the article he > says, " > Maybe in our constant club-racer quest to make our cars faster, > safer, and 'more > reliable' we pushed for changes that simply accelerated the rate of > entropy. > Every class of production racing does this, of course, until it > finally brings > on its own demise. Or metamorphoses into some generic, tube-framed > parody of > its form self, as "stock cars" have done." And, of course, I loved > the > classic Egan ending that reads, "So it was fun to drive WALTER just > for the pure > innocence of the thing; my first drive in a steroid free competition > sports > car. We were a little slower than the other vintage race cars, but > we drove all > weekend on the same head gasket. Something I've never tried before." > > Bill Dentinger From Billb at bnj.com Mon Dec 1 11:49:41 2008 From: Billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 08:49:41 -1000 Subject: [Fot] Side Glances (JAN 2009) In-Reply-To: <8CB21FA34E99EE6-584-31A@WEBMAIL-DY38.sysops.aol.com> References: <1EA6E18F-47EF-405D-9F0D-6EEF1622C203@bnj.com> <8CB21FA34E99EE6-584-31A@WEBMAIL-DY38.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Duh. FWIW, in thermodynamics, entropy is a measure of the randomness of a system, it's sort of the opposite of order. I use it as the reason why my garage is always messy--it's just entropy. Doesn't seem to work that well with Diane, but I think the theory has a certain elegance. In information theory it's kind of the opposite of order as well, though it's more like the amount of information that can't be accounted for because of randomness. As always, the textual definitions are vague while the equations are not. Given those definitions i really didn't get Peter's use of the term, except perhaps that fiddling with these cars diminishes the nature of what they originally were. Seems like we are mostly working against entropy, preventing the cars from turning into random piles of iron oxide. On Dec 1, 2008, at 8:31 AM, billdentin at aol.com wrote: > Walter sounds like a real treasure. What issue is the article in? > I'd like to read it. > > Bill... > > Hint...it's in the subject line of the email. > > I think you'll enjoy it. > > Incidentally...I had no idea what entropy meant...but could guess. > > Bill > > > Tis the season to save your money! Get the new AOL Holiday Toolbar > for money saving offers and gift ideas. Bill Babcock Babcock & Jenkins Billb at bnj.com 503.936.7660 www.bnj.com Editor Ke Nalu e-Magazine Paddlesurfing's Web Journal Bill at kenalu.com www.kenalu.com blog: www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog From walt at hot-tr6.com Tue Dec 2 19:57:26 2008 From: walt at hot-tr6.com (Walter Hollowell) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:57:26 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR6 oil pump Message-ID: <20081203025738.D9F6E187922@autox.team.net> Sorry to retrace old topics but I am up against a snag. I am building up a racing TR6 engine using an early block with a late model crank. The block is all decked, line bored etc. An aluminum late model oil pump housing interferes with the block inner wall. It appears that there is enough material to grind away the late model aluminum oil pump housing to allow it to fit but I am asking for advice as to how best to approach this issue. Any recommendations are appreciated. Thanks Walt Hollowell Abq., NM _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter We are a community of 5.7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 23827 of my spam emails to date. The Professional version does not have this message From gkbyrne at optushome.com.au Wed Dec 3 04:14:16 2008 From: gkbyrne at optushome.com.au (Geoff Byrne) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 22:14:16 +1100 Subject: [Fot] TR3 Crank Message-ID: Friends Does any have a used billet crank with scorred or damaged crank pins . One of our guys who races a TR3 has broken his crank but uses custom made rods with undersize big ends and needs another crank Geoff Byrne TR6 Racer Down Under From pvucinic at netspace.net.au Thu Dec 4 01:45:46 2008 From: pvucinic at netspace.net.au (Peter Vucinic) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:45:46 +1100 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Rocker Shaft Message-ID: Anyone on the list have a contact for good quality hardened rocker shafts for TR4 engine? Thanks. Kind Regards Peter Vucinic TR-4 Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From pvucinic at netspace.net.au Thu Dec 4 01:49:57 2008 From: pvucinic at netspace.net.au (Peter Vucinic) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:49:57 +1100 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Overdrive Badge Message-ID: Has anyone on the list seen early TR4's (1962) having a chrome badge, fitted to the left hand side of the trunk lid, saying Overdrive? Thanks Kind Regards Peter Vucinic TR-4 WORKS Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From malaboge at aol.com Thu Dec 4 10:19:40 2008 From: malaboge at aol.com (malaboge at aol.com) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:19:40 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Rocker Shaft In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CB244BA0039BE9-DA8-909@mblk-d48.sysops.aol.com> Peter- OK, it's personal opinion time here ... The TR4's don't usually have the same wear issue that our "longer" brothers do (6 cylinder cars), not to say that they do not wear out as the most certainly do, just not as quickly.? The little bronze (?) bushes in the rockers are much more labor intensive to replace than the shaft.? Especially in a race car, I would rather "get the shaft" than replace bushes, so I only use the softer shaft. Down off the soapbox now. Been gettin the shaft for years... ?????????????????????? Nick in Nor Cal -----Original Message----- From: Peter Vucinic To: FOT Sent: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:45 am Subject: [Fot] TR4 Rocker Shaft Anyone on the list have a contact for good quality hardened rocker shafts for TR4 engine? Thanks. Kind Regards Peter Vucinic TR-4 Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From cak at dimebank.com Thu Dec 4 12:11:24 2008 From: cak at dimebank.com (Chris Kantarjiev) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:11:24 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Rocker Shaft In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49382B5C.4050903@dimebank.com> You want to talk to Rocker Arm Specialists. They'll set you up with a nicely refurbished assembly for less than you can buy the parts. Contact info is in the Monster List, www.dimebank.com/monster From goodparts at verizon.net Thu Dec 4 12:15:46 2008 From: goodparts at verizon.net (Richard Good) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:15:46 -0500 Subject: [Fot] car transport Message-ID: <14971115BD1A4A6092BB47E77A8BB7EB@AdminPC> I have an empty 16x7 enclosed trailer going from Miami area to Reading, PA (close to Philadelphia) at the end of the year. Great for an LBC if there are any in need of a ride. Richard Good From GRMTim at aol.com Fri Dec 5 19:42:31 2008 From: GRMTim at aol.com (GRMTim at aol.com) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:42:31 EST Subject: [Fot] Group 44 GT6 update and tech question Message-ID: We have the four corners together on the chassis and are about to lower the painted body on to the chassis. We have the graphics done and are showing the nearly finished car as a roller at the PRI show in Orlando next week. I have looked in my manuals and on the internet, but can't find a definitive answer as to what order the rubber and aluminum spacers go between the body and the frame on a 1969 GT6+. Can anyone help me with this quickly, as I need to mate the two together this weekend. Thanks. Updates are on our site nearly every week with pics, for those that are interested. Tim Suddard Publisher; Classic Motorsports and Grassroots Motorsports magazines www.classicmotorsports.net www.grassrootsmotorsports.com Phone: (386) 673-4148 Fax: (386) 673-6040 ************** Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp& icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) From markconsultation at twcny.rr.com Sat Dec 6 13:32:19 2008 From: markconsultation at twcny.rr.com (Mark Eginton) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:32:19 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Parts needed Message-ID: <001b01c957e1$bccab870$6401a8c0@HP> Greetings all, For a winter project I am building a street engine. Couple of parts in my stash turned out to be junk and I am trying to keep this project under the radar of the war department. Looking for: Used 86mm piston 1, possibly two - look at the T on the side - I am looking for pistons with enlarged drilled holes (stock) at each upper end of the T as opposed to a slot with radiused ends. Sleeves are already bored, THEN I found the crack... Good deal on a street performance cam - my D cam has a few pinholes (rust that got under the wax) sigh. I am running lightened rods and flywheel with 9.5 to 10 to 1 compression. Thanks and happy holidaze - it was fun meeting many of you at Watkins this year... Best, Mark From WEmery7451 at aol.com Sat Dec 6 13:53:05 2008 From: WEmery7451 at aol.com (WEmery7451 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:53:05 EST Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit Message-ID: Dear FOT, Back in the mid-60s, Bix Durbin flipped his TR-3 end over end, and decided to hang up his racing efforts. I bought his limited slip unit, and raced with it for a few years until I stripped the teeth off of the pinion gear. I then went to the welded up differentials. I recently gave this unit to Dan Styduhar, who has been helping me work on my car for the last several years. Dan has also headed up the SAE Baja racing program for many years on the Pittsburgh branch campus of Penn State. He wants to install this unit in his TR-3 for autocrosses, hill climbs, and possible vintage racing; and would like to know who manufactured this unit. I realize that I can't send an attachment of pictures to the list. Are there FOTers who would be willing to look at the pictures and try to identify the manufacturer of this unit? I could send the photos to them individually. ************** Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom4 0vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) From kaskas at cox.net Sat Dec 6 14:15:21 2008 From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 13:15:21 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You can almost bet 100% that the unit is a Detroit Locker. Not much if anything was available in those days on this side of the ocean other than the above unit. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 12:53 PM Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit > Dear FOT, > > Back in the mid-60s, Bix Durbin flipped his TR-3 end over end, and decided > to > hang up his racing efforts. I bought his limited slip unit, and raced > with > it for a few years until I stripped the teeth off of the pinion gear. I > then > went to the welded up differentials. > > I recently gave this unit to Dan Styduhar, who has been helping me work on > my > car for the last several years. Dan has also headed up the SAE Baja > racing > program for many years on the Pittsburgh branch campus of Penn State. He > wants > to install this unit in his TR-3 for autocrosses, hill climbs, and > possible > vintage racing; and would like to know who manufactured this unit. > > I realize that I can't send an attachment of pictures to the list. Are > there > FOTers who would be willing to look at the pictures and try to identify > the > manufacturer of this unit? I could send the photos to them individually. > > ************** > Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite > sites in one place. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom4 > 0vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Sat Dec 6 14:36:57 2008 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 16:36:57 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit References: Message-ID: <747F1586CE4C4D5B864D883C2A9C4834@userb38463fba5> Bill, I had a Detroit Locker installed in a street TR4A and I can say it was a huge mistake. Track is one thing, street is another thing all together. Maybe it would behave differently in a solid axle car but in my case when I'd get on the gas I could jump an entire lane of trafic without moving the wheel. Same when I got off the gas. Maybe other things were contributing as well, I don't know but if he wants to drive his TR3 on the highway I'd tell him to think twice before doing so or at the least be ready for some wild rides. JVV ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 3:53 PM Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit > Dear FOT, > > Back in the mid-60s, Bix Durbin flipped his TR-3 end over end, and decided > to > hang up his racing efforts. I bought his limited slip unit, and raced > with > it for a few years until I stripped the teeth off of the pinion gear. I > then > went to the welded up differentials. > > I recently gave this unit to Dan Styduhar, who has been helping me work on > my > car for the last several years. Dan has also headed up the SAE Baja > racing > program for many years on the Pittsburgh branch campus of Penn State. He > wants > to install this unit in his TR-3 for autocrosses, hill climbs, and > possible > vintage racing; and would like to know who manufactured this unit. > > I realize that I can't send an attachment of pictures to the list. Are > there > FOTers who would be willing to look at the pictures and try to identify > the > manufacturer of this unit? I could send the photos to them individually. From kaskas at cox.net Sat Dec 6 14:52:38 2008 From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 13:52:38 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit In-Reply-To: <747F1586CE4C4D5B864D883C2A9C4834@userb38463fba5> References: <747F1586CE4C4D5B864D883C2A9C4834@userb38463fba5> Message-ID: I'll agree there. the locker does not fit street use or wet weather very much due to the locking and unlocking when the wheels slip in the wet surface, but on the track, tough parts and great performance. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Van Vlack" To: ; Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit > Bill, I had a Detroit Locker installed in a street TR4A and I can say it > was a huge mistake. Track is one thing, street is another thing all > together. Maybe it would behave differently in a solid axle car but in my > case when I'd get on the gas I could jump an entire lane of trafic without > moving the wheel. Same when I got off the gas. Maybe other things were > contributing as well, I don't know but if he wants to drive his TR3 on the > highway I'd tell him to think twice before doing so or at the least be > ready for some wild rides. > > JVV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 3:53 PM > Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit > > >> Dear FOT, >> >> Back in the mid-60s, Bix Durbin flipped his TR-3 end over end, and >> decided to >> hang up his racing efforts. I bought his limited slip unit, and raced >> with >> it for a few years until I stripped the teeth off of the pinion gear. I >> then >> went to the welded up differentials. >> >> I recently gave this unit to Dan Styduhar, who has been helping me work >> on my >> car for the last several years. Dan has also headed up the SAE Baja >> racing >> program for many years on the Pittsburgh branch campus of Penn State. He >> wants >> to install this unit in his TR-3 for autocrosses, hill climbs, and >> possible >> vintage racing; and would like to know who manufactured this unit. >> >> I realize that I can't send an attachment of pictures to the list. Are >> there >> FOTers who would be willing to look at the pictures and try to identify >> the >> manufacturer of this unit? I could send the photos to them individually. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Sat Dec 6 17:15:19 2008 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 19:15:19 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit References: <747F1586CE4C4D5B864D883C2A9C4834@userb38463fba5> Message-ID: I wrote to Kas shortly after this experirnce since the Competion Manual suggested this as something to do even for a hot street car. His response was perfect...........something like "the marketing guys got their hands on the manual and had some editorial input". This was one of those cases where the marketing guys went beyond their knowledge base for sure. Like that's never happened before! JVV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kas Kastner" To: "Jerry Van Vlack" ; ; Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit > I'll agree there. the locker does not fit street use or wet weather very > much due to the locking and unlocking when the wheels slip in the wet > surface, but on the track, tough parts and great performance. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry Van Vlack" > To: ; > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 1:36 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit > > >> Bill, I had a Detroit Locker installed in a street TR4A and I can say it >> was a huge mistake. Track is one thing, street is another thing all >> together. Maybe it would behave differently in a solid axle car but in my >> case when I'd get on the gas I could jump an entire lane of trafic >> without >> moving the wheel. Same when I got off the gas. Maybe other things were >> contributing as well, I don't know but if he wants to drive his TR3 on >> the >> highway I'd tell him to think twice before doing so or at the least be >> ready for some wild rides. >> >> JVV >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 3:53 PM >> Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit >> >> >>> Dear FOT, >>> >>> Back in the mid-60s, Bix Durbin flipped his TR-3 end over end, and >>> decided to >>> hang up his racing efforts. I bought his limited slip unit, and raced >>> with >>> it for a few years until I stripped the teeth off of the pinion gear. I >>> then >>> went to the welded up differentials. >>> >>> I recently gave this unit to Dan Styduhar, who has been helping me work >>> on my >>> car for the last several years. Dan has also headed up the SAE Baja >>> racing >>> program for many years on the Pittsburgh branch campus of Penn State. >>> He >>> wants >>> to install this unit in his TR-3 for autocrosses, hill climbs, and >>> possible >>> vintage racing; and would like to know who manufactured this unit. >>> >>> I realize that I can't send an attachment of pictures to the list. Are >>> there >>> FOTers who would be willing to look at the pictures and try to identify >>> the >>> manufacturer of this unit? I could send the photos to them >>> individually. From jaxonracing at yahoo.com Sun Dec 7 19:17:41 2008 From: jaxonracing at yahoo.com (Jay Creel) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 18:17:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] For Sale: 1147 Racing Engines Message-ID: <204629.16795.qm@web53507.mail.re2.yahoo.com> FOT, I have for sale, (2) complete ready to race 1147 motors prepared by George Bauchman. Both motors are complete and ready for installation. Both motors are refreshed and include 303014 heads. These motors are top notch and are well prepared. One motor has only one race weekend on it and the other is fresh with zero time. I have carbs and intake available for each motor as well as a set of Stahl headers. Give a call for complete information and pricing. Jay Creel 860.729.6569 From macdonaldp at rogers.com Sun Dec 7 21:56:41 2008 From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 23:56:41 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Differentials Message-ID: http://www.phantomgrip.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=57 Anyone heard of these? Are they any good, have bad points?? Paul [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] From Billb at bnj.com Sun Dec 7 22:16:25 2008 From: Billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 19:16:25 -1000 Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Differentials In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: From everything I've heard they don't do much. looking at the bits I'm not surprised. A salisbury type LSD uses a stack of clutch plates to do the job and they overheat easily. this system seems to use the sides of the spider gears as one clutch surface. There's no real explanation of how it works, just marketing drivel like "hand-selected materials". I spent a lot of time in advertising, I speak BS. That's absolutely BS. It's a faction of the cost of a real LSD. I expect it works about a fraction as well. On Dec 7, 2008, at 6:56 PM, Paul MacDonald wrote: > http://www.phantomgrip.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=57 > > Anyone heard of these? Are they any good, have bad points?? > > Paul > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef > which had a name of winmail.dat] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > Bill Babcock Babcock & Jenkins Billb at bnj.com 503.936.7660 www.bnj.com Editor Ke Nalu e-Magazine Paddlesurfing's Web Journal Bill at kenalu.com www.kenalu.com blog: www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog From rblake36 at yahoo.com Mon Dec 8 11:00:19 2008 From: rblake36 at yahoo.com (Robert Blake) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 10:00:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Atlanta area TR4 on Ebay Message-ID: <739110.96815.qm@web58506.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Is anyone familiar with a red 65 TR4 located in the Atlanta, GA area recently offered on Ebay. Auction ended Nov 29. If so would be interested in your opinion of the car. Bob Blake From WEmery7451 at aol.com Mon Dec 8 16:11:48 2008 From: WEmery7451 at aol.com (WEmery7451 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 18:11:48 EST Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Limited Slip Unit Message-ID: Dear FOT, I would like to thank everyone for their input as to the type of unit this is, and the manufacturer. It appears that Michael did a pretty thorough job. My older brother worked at Eaton for a number of years. I can vaguely remember him mentioned these units, or something like them. ************** Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom 00000010) Return-path: From: WEmery7451 at aol.com Full-name: WEmery7451 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 17:25:18 EST Subject: Fwd: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit To: UNV at PSU.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/mixed by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME093-9c2493b9429379; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 04:15:38 -0500 Received: from dfn.com (dfn.com [206.206.88.7]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME066-9c2493b9429379; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 04:15:21 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.2] [206.206.89.65] by dfn.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-8.22) id A425073C; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 02:15:17 -0700 Message-ID: <493B9411.2030605 at dfn.com> Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 02:14:57 -0700 From: Michael Porter Reply-To: mdporter at dfn.com Organization: Very little User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: WEmery7451 at aol.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Limited Slip Unit References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Declude-Sender: mdporter at dfn.com [192.168.0.2] X-Declude-Spoolname: D9425008e0000ed13.smd X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.4.23 for spam. "http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm" X-Declude-Scan: Score [0] at 02:15:20 on 07 Dec 2008 X-Declude-Fail: Whitelisted X-AOL-IP: 206.206.88.7 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain WEmery7451 at aol.com wrote: > Hi Michael, > > I attempted to attach the pictures. Bill Emery > > Bill, it certainly looks like an old Detroit Locker. The dogs and springs look very much like the early ones, as does the case style (very similar to the split ring gear flange on the old Ford 9" locker carriers). I would guess it was one of the early ones produced by Detroit Automotive Products (DAPCO). Since the product line has since been sold to Tractech, which was, in turn, then sold to Eaton, Eaton is the likely place to find parts. The maker's mark probably isn't going to be much help--it's likely the mark of the company doing the carrier casting, from the look of it. There ought to be a model/serial number on it somewhere, and I'd guess it's on the ring gear flange, underneath the ring gear. Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... From srcypher at mac.com Mon Dec 8 16:52:51 2008 From: srcypher at mac.com (Scott Cypher) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 18:52:51 -0500 Subject: [Fot] CL: TR4 Fiberglass (NY-Long Island) Message-ID: <41CA7FED-E8D5-41A6-A92C-4E3B2C2E22CE@mac.com> Not mine, no interest, but if someone was seeking fiberglass rear fenders... http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/pts/942057858.html Thanks -Scott Cypher spitfireracer at xsmail.com SCCA #37 HP Spitfire 1500 #362573 Reading, PA http://gallery.me.com/srcypher#gallery 1971 Spit MkIV/1500 RaceCar 1971 TR6 TBD 1976 TR7 Street 1968 GT6 Vintage "I'm so excited I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head. Its the excitement only a free man can feel. A free man at the start of a long journey, whose conclusion is uncertain" From colordog.1 at earthlink.net Mon Dec 8 16:57:57 2008 From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (steve belfer) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 23:57:57 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Tr3 steering shaft Message-ID: <294192134-1228780727-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-673227095-@bxe296.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> I'm about to get a quick release steering wheel shaft welded to my existing steering shaft. The part that was ordered is bigger in diameter than the shaft itself. Does this mean I could not ever fix the steering box, should the need arise because the shaft pulls out from the front? Do I need to get a quick release unit with an end that's the same dia. As the shaft and not bigger? Steve Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From brad.kahler at 141.com Mon Dec 8 17:52:13 2008 From: brad.kahler at 141.com (Brad Kahler) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:52:13 GMT Subject: [Fot] Tr3 steering shaft Message-ID: <200812081752963.SM03744@[166.70.182.40]> Steve, The later TR3s had split steering shafts.B If yours is a solid one piece I would look for a later gearbox with the slit column.B Much eaiser to work on as well..B Brad -----Original Message----- From: "steve belfer" Sent 12/8/2008 4:57:57 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Tr3 steering shaftI'm about to get a quick release steering wheel shaft welded to my existing steering shaft. The part that was ordered is bigger in diameter than the shaft itself. Does this mean I could not ever fix the steering box, should the need arise because the shaft pulls out from the front? Do I need to get a quick release unit with an end that's the same dia. As the shaft and not bigger? Steve Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From colordog.1 at earthlink.net Mon Dec 8 18:02:55 2008 From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (steve belfer) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 01:02:55 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Tr3 steering shaft In-Reply-To: <200812081752963.SM03744@[166.70.182.40]> References: <200812081752963.SM03744@[166.70.182.40]> Message-ID: <38158263-1228784624-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-526151194-@bxe296.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> I have the one piece shaft in the car and an extra unit in storage (lower half only). I don't plan on swapping this out now since everything is working great. I'll look for a smaller dia. Quick release unit. Btw, I just had some nice roll bar work done, if anyone wants to see, email me for pictures. Steve Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: "Brad Kahler" Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:52:13 To: ; fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Tr3 steering shaft Steve, The later TR3s had split steering shafts.B If yours is a solid one piece I would look for a later gearbox with the slit column.B Much eaiser to work on as well..B Brad -----Original Message----- From: "steve belfer" Sent 12/8/2008 4:57:57 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Tr3 steering shaftI'm about to get a quick release steering wheel shaft welded to my existing steering shaft. The part that was ordered is bigger in diameter than the shaft itself. Does this mean I could not ever fix the steering box, should the need arise because the shaft pulls out from the front? Do I need to get a quick release unit with an end that's the same dia. As the shaft and not bigger? Steve Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.htmlhttp://www.fot-racing.com Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From Gt6steve at aol.com Mon Dec 8 18:32:02 2008 From: Gt6steve at aol.com (Gt6steve at aol.com) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 20:32:02 EST Subject: [Fot] Tr3 steering shaft Message-ID: Hell Yes we want to see! Send it out, I can put it on my Photobucket page so all can see. Steve ;-)) **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) From william.tobin3 at verizon.net Mon Dec 8 20:26:33 2008 From: william.tobin3 at verizon.net (WILLIAM TOBIN) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:26:33 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Differentials References: Message-ID: <002a01c959ad$f0125f80$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> Hi all, on a related note, has anyone used the Infiniti or 300ZX viscous limited slip setup in a TR6? The one that Richard Good makes a kit for? Thanks, Bill----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul MacDonald" To: "Fot" Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 11:56 PM Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Differentials > http://www.phantomgrip.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=57 > > Anyone heard of these? Are they any good, have bad points?? > > Paul > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From macdonaldp at rogers.com Mon Dec 8 20:52:47 2008 From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 22:52:47 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Differentials In-Reply-To: <002a01c959ad$f0125f80$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> Message-ID: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110321369 431&ih=001&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem= There is one in this car that is for sale on Ebay...sounds like a nice car. Paul -----Original Message----- From: WILLIAM TOBIN [mailto:william.tobin3 at verizon.net] Sent: December 8, 2008 10:27 PM To: Paul MacDonald; Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Limited Slip Differentials Hi all, on a related note, has anyone used the Infiniti or 300ZX viscous limited slip setup in a TR6? The one that Richard Good makes a kit for? Thanks, Bill----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul MacDonald" To: "Fot" Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 11:56 PM Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Differentials > http://www.phantomgrip.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=57 > > Anyone heard of these? Are they any good, have bad points?? > > Paul > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From mark at bradakis.com Mon Dec 8 21:53:43 2008 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 21:53:43 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Tr3 steering shaft In-Reply-To: <38158263-1228784624-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-526151194-@bxe296.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <200812081752963.SM03744@[166.70.182.40]> <38158263-1228784624-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-526151194-@bxe296.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <493DF9D7.10104@bradakis.com> steve belfer wrote: > if anyone wants to see, email me for pictures. > > A reminder to folks - if you don't have a personal server to host your photos, you can put them in a post on http://www.team.net/forums mjb. From mediehljr at yahoo.com Tue Dec 9 06:00:14 2008 From: mediehljr at yahoo.com (Ed Diehl) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 05:00:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] CL: TR4 Fiberglass (NY-Long Island) In-Reply-To: <41CA7FED-E8D5-41A6-A92C-4E3B2C2E22CE@mac.com> Message-ID: <999793.13788.qm@web51905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello all. For what it's worth, I have molds for rear fenders for TR4 or TR250 in XLent shape that I will sell for $200 plus shipping. Contact me off list. Merry Christmas. Cheers, Ed. Ed Diehl --- On Mon, 12/8/08, Scott Cypher wrote: From: Scott Cypher Subject: [Fot] CL: TR4 Fiberglass (NY-Long Island) To: "Friends of Triumph" Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 6:52 PM Not mine, no interest, but if someone was seeking fiberglass rear fenders... http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/pts/942057858.html Thanks -Scott Cypher spitfireracer at xsmail.com SCCA #37 HP Spitfire 1500 #362573 Reading, PA http://gallery.me.com/srcypher#gallery 1971 Spit MkIV/1500 RaceCar 1971 TR6 TBD 1976 TR7 Street 1968 GT6 Vintage "I'm so excited I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head. Its the excitement only a free man can feel. A free man at the start of a long journey, whose conclusion is uncertain" Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From trhouse at greenapple.com Tue Dec 9 07:33:45 2008 From: trhouse at greenapple.com (Tom Householder) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 09:33:45 -0500 Subject: [Fot] CL: TR4 Fiberglass (NY-Long Island) In-Reply-To: <999793.13788.qm@web51905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: on 12/9/08 8:00 AM, Ed Diehl at mediehljr at yahoo.com wrote: > Hello all. For what it's worth, I have molds for rear fenders for TR4 or TR250 > in XLent shape that I will sell for $200 plus shipping. Contact me off list. > Merry Christmas. Cheers, Ed. > > Ed Diehl > > --- On Mon, 12/8/08, Scott Cypher wrote: For the inventory I have a fiberglass mould for the rear valence for a TR6 FYI tom From trmarty at hotmail.com Tue Dec 9 10:11:43 2008 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 12:11:43 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Limited Slip Differentials In-Reply-To: <002a01c959ad$f0125f80$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> References: <002a01c959ad$f0125f80$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> Message-ID: Yup, been there done that. Would definitely do it again. Marty> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 22:26:33 -0500> From: william.tobin3 at verizon.net> To: macdonaldp at rogers.com; fot at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] Limited Slip Differentials> > Hi all, on a related note, has anyone used the Infiniti or 300ZX viscous> limited slip setup in a TR6? The one that Richard Good makes a kit for?> Thanks, Bill----- Original Message ----- _________________________________________________________________ Suspicious message? Theres an alert for that. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad2_1 22008 From mark at bradakis.com Tue Dec 9 19:48:52 2008 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:48:52 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Nice photo Message-ID: <493F2E14.6030505@bradakis.com> Karen just got home with the contents of the PO box, which included a new issue of The Vintage Triumph. Nice cover shot of a couple of racing TRs - they look sort of familiar, it seems. mjb. From janbarker888 at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 9 22:46:54 2008 From: janbarker888 at sbcglobal.net (janbarker888 at sbcglobal.net) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 21:46:54 -0800 Subject: [Fot] REMOVAL FROM LIST Message-ID: <002601c95a8a$b58133e0$9f94ed45@yourf78bf48ce2> Please remove my name from the FOT list - I'm just not able to keep up with all the e-mails. Thanks Jerry Barker janbarker888 at sbcglobal.net From jsnook at wcnet.org Wed Dec 10 06:29:35 2008 From: jsnook at wcnet.org (Jeff Snook) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:29:35 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nice photo References: <493F2E14.6030505@bradakis.com> Message-ID: Hey Mark, This photo must have been during one of the early sessions when Henry Fry was having car troubles. He was "smokin' hot" all weekend and I could not stay in front of him for very long!! Congratulations to Henry!! Jeff Snook www.snooksdreamcars.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark J Bradakis To: 'Friends of Triumph' Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:48 PM Subject: [Fot] Nice photo Karen just got home with the contents of the PO box, which included a new issue of The Vintage Triumph. Nice cover shot of a couple of racing TRs - they look sort of familiar, it seems. mjb. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html http://www.fot-racing.com Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1840 - Release Date: 12/9/2008 4:53 PM From billdentin at aol.com Wed Dec 10 08:05:31 2008 From: billdentin at aol.com (billdentin at aol.com) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:05:31 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nice photo In-Reply-To: <493F2E14.6030505@bradakis.com> References: <493F2E14.6030505@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <8CB28EFE04A6E8D-1518-1197@FWM-M12.sysops.aol.com> <<< Karen just got home with the contents of the PO box, which included? a new issue of The Vintage Triumph. Nice cover shot of a couple of? racing TRs - they look sort of familiar, it seems. >>>? I'll say!? Jeff?Snook and Henry Frye.? Great shot.? Great issue too.? The GLEN article captures the magnitude and scope of the event over and above the awesome vintage racing.? I particularly liked?Mike Cook's memorial to P. L. Newman, and Paul?Richardson's article on the FERGUSON tractor ties. Bill Dentinger? _______________________________________________? From hakhutch at roadrunner.com Wed Dec 10 17:59:48 2008 From: hakhutch at roadrunner.com (Tim Hutchisen) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:59:48 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nice photo References: <493F2E14.6030505@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <2E7178A2C2DF498A8A3EFBBB0E715EF7@UPSTAIRSOFFICE> I'd like to think it was Henry's crew chief for the weekend that made his car fast all weekend, but I didn't do anything that would remotely qualify as "tuning". It was all Henry's efforts that got him this fame and glory! Tim Hutchisen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Snook" To: "Mark J Bradakis" ; "'Friends of Triumph'" Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Nice photo > Hey Mark, > > This photo must have been during one of the early sessions when Henry Fry > was > having car troubles. He was "smokin' hot" all weekend and I could not > stay in > front of him for very long!! > > Congratulations to Henry!! > > Jeff Snook > www.snooksdreamcars.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mark J Bradakis > To: 'Friends of Triumph' > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:48 PM > Subject: [Fot] Nice photo > > > Karen just got home with the contents of the PO box, which included > a new issue of The Vintage Triumph. Nice cover shot of a couple of > racing TRs - they look sort of familiar, it seems. > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1840 - Release Date: > 12/9/2008 > 4:53 PM > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From mlcooknj at msn.com Wed Dec 10 18:00:49 2008 From: mlcooknj at msn.com (michael cook) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:00:49 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nice photo In-Reply-To: <2E7178A2C2DF498A8A3EFBBB0E715EF7@UPSTAIRSOFFICE> References: <493F2E14.6030505@bradakis.com> <2E7178A2C2DF498A8A3EFBBB0E715EF7@UPSTAIRSOFFICE> Message-ID: Looking from outside, what I see is a bunch of talented guys wrenching and driving, making all the cars go faster and better. Mike Cook> From: hakhutch at roadrunner.com> To: jsnook at wcnet.org; fot at autox.team.net> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:59:48 -0500> Subject: Re: [Fot] Nice photo> > I'd like to think it was Henry's crew chief for the weekend that made his > car fast all weekend, but I didn't do anything that would remotely qualify > as "tuning". It was all Henry's efforts that got him this fame and glory!> > Tim Hutchisen> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Snook" > To: "Mark J Bradakis" ; "'Friends of Triumph'" > > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:29 AM> Subject: Re: [Fot] Nice photo> > > > Hey Mark,> >> > This photo must have been during one of the early sessions when Henry Fry > > was> > having car troubles. He was "smokin' hot" all weekend and I could not > > stay in> > front of him for very long!!> >> > Congratulations to Henry!!> >> > Jeff Snook> > www.snooksdreamcars.com> > ----- Original Message -----> > From: Mark J Bradakis> > To: 'Friends of Triumph'> > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:48 PM> > Subject: [Fot] Nice photo> >> >> > Karen just got home with the contents of the PO box, which included> > a new issue of The Vintage Triumph. Nice cover shot of a couple of> > racing TRs - they look sort of familiar, it seems.> >> > mjb.> > _______________________________________________> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> >> > http://www.fot-racing.com> >> > Fot mailing list> > Fot at autox.team.net> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot> >> >> >> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------------> > -> >> >> >> > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com> > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1840 - Release Date: > > 12/9/2008> > 4:53 PM> > _______________________________________________> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> >> > http://www.fot-racing.com> >> > Fot mailing list> > Fot at autox.team.net> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot> _______________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > http://www.fot-racing.com> > Fot mailing list> Fot at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot> From riverside at cedar-rapids.net Wed Dec 10 16:08:50 2008 From: riverside at cedar-rapids.net (riverside) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:08:50 -0600 Subject: [Fot] custom radiators Message-ID: <00e501c95b48$2c8ada00$8fcf1a3f@your55e5f9e3d2> Group, can anyone recommend a source for custom radiator fabrication? Thanks art de armond From henry at henryfrye.com Thu Dec 11 04:16:13 2008 From: henry at henryfrye.com (Henry Frye) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 06:16:13 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nice photo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2B52E8650115BB4085979C721A085AD40A3E5B@server.Triumph.local> Thanks, Jeff. I wish everybody could experience the elation I felt that day. Talk about making all the effort worthwhile. After the tragic weekend at Grattan a few weeks prior, several of us were running with heavy hearts. I guess that translated into a heavy foot, just what Jack would have wanted. I miss Jack. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Snook > Subject: Re: [Fot] Nice photo > > Hey Mark, > > This photo must have been during one of the early sessions > when Henry Fry was having car troubles. He was "smokin' hot" > all weekend and I could not stay in front of him for very long!! > > Congratulations to Henry!! From standardtriumph at btinternet.com Thu Dec 11 05:29:58 2008 From: standardtriumph at btinternet.com (John Macartney) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:29:58 -0000 Subject: [Fot] Nice photo References: <2B52E8650115BB4085979C721A085AD40A3E5B@server.Triumph.local> Message-ID: <0B3E7670A439452983F842EDCF6233B4@Bevan> Henry Frye wrote: > I miss Jack. All who knew Jack (and I was one who didn't, except through his emails to me) will surely echo that sentiment. But his name lives on in the hearts of all he knew himself - and in the form of a Stag I'll be driving across the States and Canada next year - that's been 'christened' as 'uncle jack' Jonmac From Gt6steve at aol.com Thu Dec 11 06:18:24 2008 From: Gt6steve at aol.com (Gt6steve at aol.com) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:18:24 EST Subject: [Fot] custom radiators Message-ID: Afco Racing supply **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. 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NFI Brad From standardtriumph at btinternet.com Thu Dec 11 09:46:35 2008 From: standardtriumph at btinternet.com (John Macartney) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:46:35 -0000 Subject: [Fot] More news on the Triumph Trans-AmeriCa Charity Drive 2009 Message-ID: As some of you already know, the Stag that I'm driving next year is now known as 'uncle jack' in memory of Jack Drews, who died earlier this year while racing his TR4. Reconstruction work on the car itself continues apace under 'Stagmeister' Joe Pawlak and his team at ISOA and Tim Buja has posted the latest pix of work undertaken this last weekend. You can see those pix and the dedication of the Stag in Jack's memory on the event website which is www.triumphtransamerica.org.uk Cheers, all John Macartney Originator of The Triumph Trans-America Charity Drive 2009 www.triumphtransamerica.org.uk An event for full TRIUMPH Enthusiast participation From jaboruch at netzero.net Thu Dec 11 17:46:09 2008 From: jaboruch at netzero.net (Joe Boruch) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:46:09 GMT Subject: [Fot] custom radiators Message-ID: <20081211.194609.21004.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> About 8 years ago I had a TR3 type aluminum radiator (less the filler neck) custom made at Howe Radiator in Michigan. It only took a couple of weeks and was true to my drawing. Their web site is http://www.howeracing.com/Radiators/Index-CustomRadiators.htm. Joe(B) -- "riverside" wrote: Group, can anyone recommend a source for custom radiator fabrication? Thanks art de armond Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot ____________________________________________________________ Save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD! Shop now at http://offers.netzero.net/TGL1231/?u=http://www.ftd.com/17007 From mark at bradakis.com Thu Dec 11 20:45:58 2008 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:45:58 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR6 Second Gear Scrunch Message-ID: <4941DE76.1060603@bradakis.com> About a year ago I rebuilt a trans and A type overdrive for a fellow here in Salt Lake City. At that time we also installed one of TRF's 'Magic clutch kits' with a Gunst throwout bearing. About a month or so back he brings it by the shop and has me drive it around. The gearbox works well, except that going into second gear you get grinding noises. Upshifting or down, you get the noise. Shifting into any other gear is just fine. To me the clutch engagement seemed too close to the floor, and the transmission behavior was a lot like what my little Nissan pickup does on occasion. In the pickup, I pull the floor mat out from under the clutch pedal to fix it. I suggested that one probable cause was the clutch hydraulics, as we did nothing to that last year at the time of the rebuild. Anyway, he brings the car in with a new aftermarket slave cylinder and an adjustable pushrod, which I installed the other day. The 1st - 2nd shifts are smoother, the engagement point is further off the floor, but still grinding on 3 - 2 downshifts, though not as badly as before. More bleeding and adjustment, the 3 - 2 noise persists. Pulled the cover off the gearbox, everything looks good inside. The synchro has plenty of clearance, end floats seem to be fine, nothing amiss as far as I can tell from my contorted position under the dash trying to peer into the heart of the thing. Now what? Anyone have some sure fire ways to determine if the grinding is due to internal gearbox issues, or simply a dragging clutch? mjb. From budscars at comcast.net Thu Dec 11 20:48:38 2008 From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:48:38 -0800 Subject: [Fot] custom radiators References: <20081211.194609.21004.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: Spitfire Tranny... Hi gang.... In the race at Infineon in October, my tranny messed up in my spitfire(stock Tranny)....first it was popping out of 3rd (I could hold it in)...then...It would not downshift to second(grind).....1st and 4th worked fine.... Any help will be greatly appreciated..I have not pulled it yet Thanks! Racer Bud..Spitfire # 21 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Boruch" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] custom radiators > About 8 years ago I had a TR3 type aluminum radiator (less the filler > neck) > custom made at Howe Radiator in Michigan. It only took a couple of weeks > and > was true to my drawing. Their web site is > http://www.howeracing.com/Radiators/Index-CustomRadiators.htm. Joe(B) > > -- "riverside" wrote: > Group, > > can anyone recommend a source for > custom radiator fabrication? > Thanks > > art de armond > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > ____________________________________________________________ > Save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD! > Shop now at http://offers.netzero.net/TGL1231/?u=http://www.ftd.com/17007 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From Billb at bnj.com Thu Dec 11 21:14:50 2008 From: Billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:14:50 -1000 Subject: [Fot] TR6 Second Gear Scrunch In-Reply-To: <4941DE76.1060603@bradakis.com> References: <4941DE76.1060603@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <2F06A168-D57D-4964-8C08-05C92CD1F881@bnj.com> It sure sounds like a dragging clutch. Might be a warped plate. On Dec 11, 2008, at 5:45 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > About a year ago I rebuilt a trans and A type overdrive for a fellow > here > in Salt Lake City. At that time we also installed one of TRF's 'Magic > clutch kits' with a Gunst throwout bearing. About a month or so back > he brings it by the shop and has me drive it around. > > The gearbox works well, except that going into second gear you get > grinding noises. Upshifting or down, you get the noise. Shifting > into > any other gear is just fine. > > To me the clutch engagement seemed too close to the floor, and the > transmission behavior was a lot like what my little Nissan pickup > does on occasion. In the pickup, I pull the floor mat out from under > the clutch pedal to fix it. I suggested that one probable cause was > the > clutch hydraulics, as we did nothing to that last year at the time of > the rebuild. > > Anyway, he brings the car in with a new aftermarket slave cylinder > and an adjustable pushrod, which I installed the other day. The 1st > - 2nd > shifts are smoother, the engagement point is further off the floor, > but > still grinding on 3 - 2 downshifts, though not as badly as before. > More > bleeding and adjustment, the 3 - 2 noise persists. > > Pulled the cover off the gearbox, everything looks good inside. The > synchro has plenty of clearance, end floats seem to be fine, nothing > amiss as far as I can tell from my contorted position under the dash > trying to peer into the heart of the thing. > > Now what? Anyone have some sure fire ways to determine if the > grinding is due to internal gearbox issues, or simply a dragging > clutch? > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > Bill Babcock Babcock & Jenkins Billb at bnj.com 503.936.7660 www.bnj.com Editor Ke Nalu e-Magazine Paddlesurfing's Web Journal Bill at kenalu.com www.kenalu.com blog: www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog From tr3driver at ca.rr.com Thu Dec 11 22:43:41 2008 From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:43:41 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR6 Second Gear Scrunch In-Reply-To: <4941DE76.1060603@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <20081212054340.VATZ26434.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@randall> > Now what? Anyone have some sure fire ways to determine if > the grinding is due to internal gearbox issues, or simply a > dragging clutch? The test for a dragging clutch (pilot bearing, etc.) is fairly easy : Depress and hold the clutch; shift into 2nd (or any gear with synchromesh) to stop the input shaft; then shift to neutral, wait a beat, and shift into reverse. If it grinds at all, the clutch (etc.) is dragging. Randall From robertten1 at aol.com Fri Dec 12 06:53:31 2008 From: robertten1 at aol.com (robertten1 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:53:31 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Spifire tranny ... In-Reply-To: References: <20081211.194609.21004.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <8CB2A7826BB3472-1108-1F10@FWM-M15.sysops.aol.com> Racer Bud, Snap ring in front of 3rd gear assy. is broken.? Time for a complete rebuild. Best of luck, Bob T. '64 Spit GT? autocrosser -----Original Message----- From: RACER BUD To: Joe Boruch ; riverside at cedar-rapids.net Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:48 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] custom radiators Spitfire Tranny...? Hi gang....? In the race at Infineon in October, my tranny messed up in my spitfire(stock Tranny)....first it was popping out of 3rd (I could hold it in)...then...It would not downshift to second(grind).....1st and 4th worked fine....? Any help will be greatly appreciated..I have not pulled it yet? Thanks!? Racer Bud..Spitfire # 21? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Boruch" ? To: ? Cc: ? Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:46 PM? Subject: Re: [Fot] custom radiators? ? > About 8 years ago I had a TR3 type aluminum radiator (less the filler > neck)? > custom made at Howe Radiator in Michigan. It only took a couple of weeks > and? > was true to my drawing. Their web site is? > http://www.howeracing.com/Radiators/Index-CustomRadiators.htm. Joe(B)? >? > -- "riverside" wrote:? > Group,? >? > can anyone recommend a source for? > custom radiator fabrication?? > Thanks? >? > art de armond? > Fot mailing list? > Fot at autox.team.net? > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot? >? > ____________________________________________________________? > Save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD!? > Shop now at http://offers.netzero.net/TGL1231/?u=http://www.ftd.com/17007? > _______________________________________________? > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? >? > http://www.fot-racing.com? >? > Fot mailing list? > Fot at autox.team.net? > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot? _______________________________________________? Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? ? http://www.fot-racing.com? ? Fot mailing list? Fot at autox.team.net? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot? ? From robertten1 at aol.com Fri Dec 12 06:56:18 2008 From: robertten1 at aol.com (robertten1 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:56:18 -0500 Subject: [Fot] custom radiators In-Reply-To: <20081211.194609.21004.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> References: <20081211.194609.21004.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <8CB2A788AADCBA6-1108-1F30@FWM-M15.sysops.aol.com> Some of the TR parts suppliers are listing alloy rads.? Check them out if they fit your needs. Best of luck, Bob T. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Boruch To: riverside at cedar-rapids.net Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 7:46 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] custom radiators About 8 years ago I had a TR3 type aluminum radiator (less the filler neck) custom made at Howe Radiator in Michigan. It only took a couple of weeks and was true to my drawing. Their web site is http://www.howeracing.com/Radiators/Index-CustomRadiators.htm. Joe(B) -- "riverside" wrote: Group, can anyone recommend a source for custom radiator fabrication? Thanks art de armond Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot ____________________________________________________________ Save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD! Shop now at http://offers.netzero.net/TGL1231/?u=http://www.ftd.com/17007 Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From cwn74 at aol.com Fri Dec 12 07:32:29 2008 From: cwn74 at aol.com (Clark W. Nicholls) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:32:29 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Spifire tranny ... In-Reply-To: <8CB2A7826BB3472-1108-1F10@FWM-M15.sysops.aol.com> References: <20081211.194609.21004.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> <8CB2A7826BB3472-1108-1F10@FWM-M15.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1F45C5411E9346D2B645C5009FBF066C@semperon3400> I agree it is the snap ring on the mainshaft. Never use a used one, always new! If you need to take it off, use another new one (buy several). If you hold the shift lever to keep the tranny in gear and let off on the gas you'll notice the lever move (try to move). That is the gears moving on the mainshaft due to the snap ring coming out of the groove. There is a thrust washer in there too that can get damaged. Been there.... Clark Clark W. Nicholls '72 Stag '74 Spitfire "Reality... It's not what you think." From fubog1 at aol.com Fri Dec 12 07:45:39 2008 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:45:39 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Spifire tranny ... In-Reply-To: <1F45C5411E9346D2B645C5009FBF066C@semperon3400> References: <1F45C5411E9346D2B645C5009FBF066C@semperon3400> Message-ID: <8CB2A7F6F6D7AEF-E24-38A@WEBMAIL-DG13.sim.aol.com> Yes, too much end float, most likely the circlip, and also the circlip has a slight offset on one end & it has to be fitted facing forward ie away from the gear/thrust washer. Glen -----Original Message----- From: Clark W. Nicholls To: robertten1 at aol.com; fot at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 9:32 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Spifire tranny ... I agree it is the snap ring on the mainshaft. Never use a used one, always new! If you need to take it off, use another new one (buy several). If you hold the shift lever to keep the tranny in gear and let off on the gas you'll notice the lever move (try to move). That is the gears moving on the mainshaft due to the snap ring coming out of the groove. There is a thrust washer in there too that can get damaged. Been there.... Clark Clark W. Nicholls '72 Stag '74 Spitfire "Reality... It's not what you think." Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From kenandtweety at yahoo.com Fri Dec 12 08:32:50 2008 From: kenandtweety at yahoo.com (Ken Suhre) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:32:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] TR6 Second Gear Scrunch In-Reply-To: <4941DE76.1060603@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <480335.66343.qm@web111402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Mark wrote:About a year ago I rebuilt a trans and A type overdrive for a fellow here in Salt Lake City. Mark, My experience has been that if all other gears shift fine, then the offending one probably has a worn blocker ring or the syncro engagement teeth on the gear are rounded off. A dragging clutch could cause the excess wear to the blocker ring or it could be the driver not disengaging the clutch properly. It could also be junior wear. (the guys kid is beating the crap out of it.) Ken Suhre --- On Thu, 12/11/08, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > From: Mark J Bradakis > Subject: [Fot] TR6 Second Gear Scrunch > To: "'Friends of Triumph'" > Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 9:45 PM > About a year ago I rebuilt a trans and A type overdrive for > a fellow here > in Salt Lake City. At that time we also installed one of > TRF's 'Magic > clutch kits' with a Gunst throwout bearing. About a > month or so back > he brings it by the shop and has me drive it around. > > The gearbox works well, except that going into second gear > you get > grinding noises. Upshifting or down, you get the noise. > Shifting into > any other gear is just fine. > > To me the clutch engagement seemed too close to the floor, > and the > transmission behavior was a lot like what my little Nissan > pickup > does on occasion. In the pickup, I pull the floor mat out > from under > the clutch pedal to fix it. I suggested that one probable > cause was the > clutch hydraulics, as we did nothing to that last year at > the time of > the rebuild. > > Anyway, he brings the car in with a new aftermarket slave > cylinder > and an adjustable pushrod, which I installed the other day. > The 1st - 2nd > shifts are smoother, the engagement point is further off > the floor, but > still grinding on 3 - 2 downshifts, though not as badly as > before. More > bleeding and adjustment, the 3 - 2 noise persists. > > Pulled the cover off the gearbox, everything looks good > inside. The > synchro has plenty of clearance, end floats seem to be > fine, nothing > amiss as far as I can tell from my contorted position under > the dash > trying to peer into the heart of the thing. > > Now what? Anyone have some sure fire ways to determine if > the > grinding is due to internal gearbox issues, or simply a > dragging > clutch? > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From budscars at comcast.net Fri Dec 12 10:09:18 2008 From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:09:18 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Spifire tranny ... References: <20081211.194609.21004.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> <8CB2A7826BB3472-1108-1F10@FWM-M15.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: thanks to all for info on my spit tranny Racer Bud spitfire#21 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 5:53 AM Subject: [Fot] Spifire tranny ... > Racer Bud, > > Snap ring in front of 3rd gear assy. is broken.? Time for a complete > rebuild. > > Best of luck, > Bob T. > '64 Spit GT? autocrosser > > > -----Original Message----- > From: RACER BUD > To: Joe Boruch ; riverside at cedar-rapids.net > Cc: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:48 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] custom radiators > > > Spitfire Tranny...? > Hi gang....? > In the race at Infineon in October, my tranny messed up in my > spitfire(stock Tranny)....first it was popping out of 3rd (I could hold it > in)...then...It would not downshift to second(grind).....1st and 4th > worked fine....? > Any help will be greatly appreciated..I have not pulled it yet? > Thanks!? > Racer Bud..Spitfire # 21? > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Boruch" ? > To: ? > Cc: ? > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:46 PM? > Subject: Re: [Fot] custom radiators? > ? >> About 8 years ago I had a TR3 type aluminum radiator (less the filler > >> neck)? >> custom made at Howe Radiator in Michigan. It only took a couple of weeks >> > and? >> was true to my drawing. Their web site is? >> http://www.howeracing.com/Radiators/Index-CustomRadiators.htm. Joe(B)? >>? >> -- "riverside" wrote:? >> Group,? >>? >> can anyone recommend a source for? >> custom radiator fabrication?? >> Thanks? >>? >> art de armond? >> Fot mailing list? >> Fot at autox.team.net? >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot? >>? >> ____________________________________________________________? >> Save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD!? >> Shop now at >> http://offers.netzero.net/TGL1231/?u=http://www.ftd.com/17007? >> _______________________________________________? >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? >>? >> http://www.fot-racing.com? >>? >> Fot mailing list? >> Fot at autox.team.net? >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot? > _______________________________________________? > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? > ? > http://www.fot-racing.com? > ? > Fot mailing list? > Fot at autox.team.net? > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot? > ? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From markconsultation at twcny.rr.com Fri Dec 12 11:57:54 2008 From: markconsultation at twcny.rr.com (Mark Eginton) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:57:54 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Parts needed Message-ID: <001201c95c8b$8a123b70$6401a8c0@HP> Found pistons from Joe A - just what the doctor ordered. Considering a cam ground by ISKY 555 or 666 recommendation from Joe. Thinking about asking Santa for a ProSim Tabletop dyno program to play with over the holidaze to see how the hp torque profiles look. There is a calibration option - does anyone have a build sheet for a TR3/4 motor and an engine dyno test? Don't dig it out yet till I get serious about this. I would be happy to share the database tuned to 4cyl tr3/4 if it all comes together. Best, M From rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com Fri Dec 12 16:17:30 2008 From: rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com (Bob) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:17:30 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR3 hardtop Message-ID: <4942F10A.1090703@cfl.rr.com> I am in the initial stages putting a 1957 TR3 back on the track. I think I would like to make into a GT and need a hard top to do so. So, I'm on the hunt for an original steel hardtop. Any leads would be greatly appreciated. Bob Mt Dora, FL From twakeman at razzolink.com Fri Dec 12 18:30:10 2008 From: twakeman at razzolink.com (TeriAnn Wakeman) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:30:10 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR3 hardtop In-Reply-To: <4942F10A.1090703@cfl.rr.com> References: <4942F10A.1090703@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <49431022.6090805@razzolink.com> Bob wrote: > I am in the initial stages putting a 1957 TR3 back on the track. I > think I would like to make into a GT and need a hard top to do so. So, > I'm on the hunt for an original steel hardtop. Any leads would be > greatly appreciated. I have one in California near Monterey that I've just put up for sale but I don't want to deal with crating it & shipping, unless it is something the UPS store could handle. It would like to find a new home soonish. From cwn74 at aol.com Fri Dec 12 19:39:41 2008 From: cwn74 at aol.com (Clark W. Nicholls) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:39:41 -0500 Subject: [Fot] FS: Triumph_GT6_Rallycross_Special in UK Message-ID: <666359C43A9F46F99B7785B3D24C4C6E@semperon3400> I came across this. Interesting car! http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listing/16765/Triumph_GT6_Rallycross_Special.h tml Usual disclaimer, I know nothing... Clark Clark W. Nicholls "Reality... It's not what you think." From philhyer at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 20:00:29 2008 From: philhyer at gmail.com (Phil Hyer) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:00:29 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Free Stag Parts Message-ID: As listed in south Florida craigslist http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/pts/955373365.html From budscars at comcast.net Sat Dec 13 12:59:00 2008 From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 11:59:00 -0800 Subject: [Fot] GT6 PROJECT CAR IN SAN FRAN BAY AREA Message-ID: <82A0210DA44641259E89EF2965FE5B31@Bud> Hiu Gang..GT 6 project...all there..needs complete resto. with spare engine available..I don't know the price.. contact John Sidler at jsisler at cruzio.com Racer Bud From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 14 05:56:32 2008 From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:56:32 -0500 Subject: [Fot] FS: Triumph_GT6_Rallycross_Special in UK In-Reply-To: <666359C43A9F46F99B7785B3D24C4C6E@semperon3400> Message-ID: Interesting car, not really a GT6, but a Spit-6 with an after-market top. Also a left hooker. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Clark W. Nicholls Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 9:40 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] FS: Triumph_GT6_Rallycross_Special in UK I came across this. Interesting car! http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listing/16765/Triumph_GT6_Rallycross_Special.h tml Usual disclaimer, I know nothing... Clark Clark W. Nicholls "Reality... It's not what you think." Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From cartravel at pobox.com Sun Dec 14 07:59:21 2008 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:59:21 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Parts needed In-Reply-To: <001201c95c8b$8a123b70$6401a8c0@HP> References: <001201c95c8b$8a123b70$6401a8c0@HP> Message-ID: <49451F49.7050601@pobox.com> I have played with an engine simulator quite a bit. Mine is called Engine Analyzer from Performance Trends. I don't have enough data to dial it in, and I have my doubts about how accurate some of these cheap simulators are. I believe they are useful for indicating modifications to look at, but I would not count on it giving you quantitative results. I'm sure you could get quantitative results if you had one of the high dollar simulators and boat loads for flow and dyno data. I can only dream. Larry Mark Eginton wrote: > Found pistons from Joe A - just what the doctor ordered. Considering a cam > ground by ISKY 555 or 666 recommendation from Joe. Thinking about asking Santa > for a ProSim Tabletop dyno program to play with over the holidaze to see how > the hp torque profiles look. > > There is a calibration option - does anyone have a build sheet for a TR3/4 > motor and an engine dyno test? Don't dig it out yet till I get serious about > this. I would be happy to share the database tuned to 4cyl tr3/4 if it all > comes together. > > Best, > > M From jmwagner at greenheart.com Sun Dec 14 19:46:27 2008 From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:46:27 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Justin: EARLY TR2 JACK WANTED Message-ID: <4945C503.9070002@greenheart.com> I had no luck with this, I'm going to give it another shot, as finding this could like an Xmas present for myself.... --Justin WANTED: EARLY TR2 JACK See image: http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll126/InvestorImage/WANTEDTR2Jack.jpg Wanted: Original Early TR2 Jack, Part Number 107652, Approximately 21 inches long. (Note the exposed threads. Not looking for reproductions or later models.) Also looking for these other original tools: "Spanner, tube 1/2" x .56" A/F", "Spanner, sparking plug", "Spanner, adjustable", "Tommy Bar", "Screwdriver", "Gauge, feeler, assembly". I'm trying to put together the original tool kit for my very early 1954 TR2. Looking for good condition with a patina matching the age of the car and time spent in driven car. (I'm not trying to put together a set that looks like it came from the factory yesterday.) Let me know your price. I could also trade silicone valve cover gaskets... once I have made another run of them. Thanks Justin jmwagner at greenheart.com From budscars at comcast.net Sun Dec 14 20:32:45 2008 From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:32:45 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Justin: EARLY TR2 JACK WANTED References: <4945C503.9070002@greenheart.com> Message-ID: <6DCF3D180A3541C9A6A0C17BD307D4FB@Bud> Hi Justin..They are very difficult to find Racer Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Wagner" To: "Friends of Triumph" ; "Triumphs" Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 6:46 PM Subject: [Fot] Justin: EARLY TR2 JACK WANTED >I had no luck with this, I'm going to give it another shot, as finding > this could like an Xmas present for myself.... --Justin > > WANTED: EARLY TR2 JACK > > See image: > http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll126/InvestorImage/WANTEDTR2Jack.jpg > > Wanted: Original Early TR2 Jack, Part Number 107652, Approximately 21 > inches long. (Note the exposed threads. Not looking for reproductions > or later models.) Also looking for these other original tools: > "Spanner, tube 1/2" x .56" A/F", "Spanner, sparking plug", "Spanner, > adjustable", "Tommy Bar", "Screwdriver", "Gauge, feeler, assembly". I'm > trying to put together the original tool kit for my very early 1954 > TR2. Looking for good condition with a patina matching the age of the > car and time spent in driven car. (I'm not trying to put together a > set that looks like it came from the factory yesterday.) > > Let me know your price. I could also trade silicone valve cover > gaskets... once I have made another run of them. > > Thanks > > Justin > jmwagner at greenheart.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From mark at bradakis.com Mon Dec 15 02:27:51 2008 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:27:51 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Back on track? Message-ID: <49462317.1010106@bradakis.com> http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=11 mjb. From harmug at us.ibm.com Mon Dec 15 08:11:15 2008 From: harmug at us.ibm.com (George Harmuth) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:11:15 -0500 Subject: [Fot] GT6 restoration In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm restoring a 70 GT6 +. The weather strip around the door is gone and I bought a few lengths of repro, all rubber type, not Furflex gasket material with the imbedded metal clips. Does anyone have any tips or tricks for doing the install? It looks like I need to spread the clips open somewhat so they clear the interior parts and crimp it back down when I'm done. Is there any quick or easy way to do this? I was thinking of using a plexiglass ice scrapper to open the channel up with out doing any damage to the rubber and vise grip type welding clamp to crimp things back but I'm open to suggestions. Do you add adhesive too or are the clamps enough? Also, as part of the restore my wife wants to make her own door finishers in a color other than the standard black. The current ones have hardened up and are very brittle so just recovering them is not an option. As anyone built a set of these from scratch? What did you use for a core? thanks mike From sbracing at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 15 10:53:22 2008 From: sbracing at sbcglobal.net (Steven Benford Jr) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:53:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Make Uncle Jack Smile Message-ID: <962148.14085.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I received a Christmas card from Francis Drews last week, and that got me started thinking about how much I miss Uncle Jack. A man, and his family, that have touched so many lives. With this being the Christmas season, I ask that all of you give back to Jack in some way. I don't care with who or how much, but please make a donation to an organization in honor of Jack. Drop some money in the red bucket, give something extra to your house of faith, make a donation to the Red Cross / American Lung Assoc. / Heart Assoc., give blood, take some can goods to a food bank, etc.... When you do it, think of Jack. I am faithful that he will most certainly hear you and smile. Steve From GSFuqua1 at aol.com Mon Dec 15 12:06:03 2008 From: GSFuqua1 at aol.com (GSFuqua1 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:06:03 EST Subject: [Fot] Make Uncle Jack Smile Message-ID: Great idea Steve!! Thanks for bringing it up. Gary Fuqua **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) From kaskas at cox.net Mon Dec 15 13:28:19 2008 From: kaskas at cox.net (Kas Kastner) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:28:19 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Make Uncle Jack Smile In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <885C867757D9465680C69F2347E4511C@KasPC> While everyone is thinking about the holidays you might also remember our keeper of the FOT flame in Salt Lake City, Mark Bradakis. Nice time to send a few bucks. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Make Uncle Jack Smile > Great idea Steve!! Thanks for bringing it up. > > Gary Fuqua > **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and > favorite sites in one place. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From jmwagner at greenheart.com Mon Dec 15 22:27:27 2008 From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:27:27 -0800 Subject: [Fot] A better way to knock off your spinners Message-ID: <49473C3F.3080205@greenheart.com> Cool looking tool! A better way to knock off your spinners: http://www.knockoffspinnertool.com/home From rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com Tue Dec 16 19:47:29 2008 From: rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com (Bob) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:47:29 -0500 Subject: [Fot] spindles Message-ID: <49486841.4020205@cfl.rr.com> Group, What are the differences between TR3 and TR6 spindles? thxx, Bob From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 17 06:51:35 2008 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis DeLap) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:51:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Detroit Locker Message-ID: <776573.14031.qm@web81706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Amici I've got a Detroit locker here that I am working on for future use. My question is this - The differential carrier has bearings that press onto each side. One side is worn so that the bearing just drops on and spins. This seems to be a common problem with these old beasts. Can this area be welded up and reground to get back to spec? ........or any other fixes? Thanks Dennis DeLap From bswope959 at msn.com Wed Dec 17 15:41:33 2008 From: bswope959 at msn.com (Bill Swope) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:41:33 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Make Uncle Jack Smile In-Reply-To: <885C867757D9465680C69F2347E4511C@KasPC> References: <885C867757D9465680C69F2347E4511C@KasPC> Message-ID: Any one got a-address for Jerry Burr In North Ca.? Vintage racer Wm. (Bill) Swope dba C ME GO Racing 1030 Green Valley Rd. NW Los Ranchos, N M 87107 bswope959 at msn.com (505) 345-6235; fax (505) 345-1180 ----- Original Message ----- From: Kas Kastner To: GSFuqua1 at aol.com ; sbracing at sbcglobal.net ; fot at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Make Uncle Jack Smile While everyone is thinking about the holidays you might also remember our keeper of the FOT flame in Salt Lake City, Mark Bradakis. Nice time to send a few bucks. ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: >; > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Make Uncle Jack Smile > Great idea Steve!! Thanks for bringing it up. > > Gary Fuqua > **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and > favorite sites in one place. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom000000 10) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html http://www.fot-racing.com Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From rocky at spitfire4.com Wed Dec 17 17:12:10 2008 From: rocky at spitfire4.com (Rocky Entriken) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:12:10 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Detroit Locker References: <776573.14031.qm@web81706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sure. It's just a mounting surface. I had one once on my Mk. 1 Spitfire, repaired it so many times it finally got "used up" and we just welded up a rear end. Decided I liked the welded rear better. With the limited slip, even with big axles I'd snap an axle about once a year. Nice thing was I could keep going. Done more than one race with one-wheel drive. With the welded rear when I snap an axle I'm done. It just tears everything up. BUT, I've only broken two axles since I've had the welded rear and that's more than 15 years now. IOW, the axles survive a lot better, probably because there's so much less slop in the rear end. --Rocky Entriken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis DeLap" To: "FOT" Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 7:51 AM Subject: [Fot] Detroit Locker > Amici > > I've got a Detroit locker here that I am working on for future use. > My question is this - > The differential carrier has bearings that press onto each side. One side > is worn so that the bearing just drops on and spins. This seems to be a > common problem with these old beasts. Can this area be welded up and > reground to get back to spec? ........or any other fixes? > > Thanks > Dennis DeLap > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 18 10:45:09 2008 From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:45:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] LeMans Message-ID: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Movie alert: Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. Doug From tlizzard at msn.com Thu Dec 18 10:47:49 2008 From: tlizzard at msn.com (Terry Stetler) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:47:49 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LeMans In-Reply-To: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Best racing movie ever. Terry Stetler ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Mitchell To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:45 PM Subject: [Fot] LeMans Movie alert: Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. Doug _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html http://www.fot-racing.com Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From andre at gt6.ca Thu Dec 18 10:51:52 2008 From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:51:52 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LeMans In-Reply-To: References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4362ae390812180951u216be08ajc9ed200a360c98b2@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, I mean when was the last time you saw a movie with almost ZERO dialog for 15mins. Love that movie so much I have this in my basement. http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/gallery/02-05-05/slides/IMG_3198.JPG http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/diy-posterbox/images/lightbox.gif A. 2008/12/18 Terry Stetler : > Best racing movie ever. > > Terry Stetler > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Doug Mitchell > To: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:45 PM > Subject: [Fot] LeMans > > > Movie alert: > > Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. > > Doug > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net > http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot stinfo/fot> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > -- Andre Rousseau - andre at gt6.ca '68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/ Ottawa, ON, Canada From budscars at comcast.net Thu Dec 18 11:06:53 2008 From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:06:53 -0800 Subject: [Fot] LeMans References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4362ae390812180951u216be08ajc9ed200a360c98b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I've got an old LP of Lemans that I play as background music while I'm cooking my Racer Bud Pasta..(it's warped but doesn't skip)..(the record, not the pasta or racer Bud)..Another good sound track is 'A MAN AND A WOMAN' Racer Bud..spitfire #21 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andre Rousseau" To: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] LeMans > Yeah, I mean when was the last time you saw a movie with almost ZERO > dialog for 15mins. > > Love that movie so much I have this in my basement. > > http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/gallery/02-05-05/slides/IMG_3198.JPG > > http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/diy-posterbox/images/lightbox.gif > > A. > > 2008/12/18 Terry Stetler : >> Best racing movie ever. >> >> Terry Stetler >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Doug Mitchell >> To: fot at autox.team.net >> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:45 PM >> Subject: [Fot] LeMans >> >> >> Movie alert: >> >> Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. >> >> Doug >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net >> http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Fot mailing list >> Fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot> stinfo/fot> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Fot mailing list >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> > > > > -- > Andre Rousseau - andre at gt6.ca > '68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/ > Ottawa, ON, Canada > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From andre at gt6.ca Thu Dec 18 11:13:26 2008 From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:13:26 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LeMans In-Reply-To: References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4362ae390812180951u216be08ajc9ed200a360c98b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4362ae390812181013k448e06c8ic72bebdd3cb2183@mail.gmail.com> I love my DVD copy... 5.1 one oh baby. A. 2008/12/18 RACER BUD : > I've got an old LP of Lemans that I play as background music while I'm > cooking my Racer Bud Pasta..(it's warped but doesn't skip)..(the record, not > the pasta or racer Bud)..Another good sound track is 'A MAN AND A WOMAN' > Racer Bud..spitfire #21 > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andre Rousseau" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:51 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] LeMans > > >> Yeah, I mean when was the last time you saw a movie with almost ZERO >> dialog for 15mins. >> >> Love that movie so much I have this in my basement. >> >> http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/gallery/02-05-05/slides/IMG_3198.JPG >> >> http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/diy-posterbox/images/lightbox.gif >> >> A. >> >> 2008/12/18 Terry Stetler : >>> >>> Best racing movie ever. >>> >>> Terry Stetler >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Doug Mitchell >>> To: fot at autox.team.net >>> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:45 PM >>> Subject: [Fot] LeMans >>> >>> >>> Movie alert: >>> >>> Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. >>> >>> Doug >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net >>> http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Fot mailing list >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot>> stinfo/fot> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Fot mailing list >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Andre Rousseau - andre at gt6.ca >> '68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/ >> Ottawa, ON, Canada >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Fot mailing list >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> > > -- Andre Rousseau - andre at gt6.ca '68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/ Ottawa, ON, Canada From colordog.1 at earthlink.net Thu Dec 18 11:38:44 2008 From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (steve belfer) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:38:44 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Between race and trackside maintence Message-ID: <632719001-1229625572-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1966631242-@bxe296.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> How often do you do the following? Change the oil and filter. Replace rusty radiator water Gap Plugs Replace Plugs Adj. Valves Adj. Points. Adj SU carbs Inspect main bearings. Rebuild motor Steve Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From N197TR4 at cs.com Thu Dec 18 11:43:31 2008 From: N197TR4 at cs.com (N197TR4 at cs.com) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:43:31 EST Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? Message-ID: This should be easy, eh? I need to get a coil for the AMBRO. I think the one on the TR4 #197 is something I got from O'Reilly Auto Parts. Thanks From Billb at bnj.com Thu Dec 18 11:54:43 2008 From: Billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:54:43 -1000 Subject: [Fot] Between race and trackside maintence In-Reply-To: <632719001-1229625572-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1966631242-@bxe296.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <632719001-1229625572-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1966631242-@bxe296.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <6C50A3CD-4568-4553-97B5-72D204E06293@bnj.com> You missed: Leakdown test --every few race weekends Check brakes every race weekend Check wheel bearings --every few race weekends check ball joints, heim joints, nut and bolt -- every race weekend. I'm generally a lot less interested in the motor than I am in the mechanical condition of the car. I don't rely on tech inspection to catch these things, it's much too variable. On Dec 18, 2008, at 8:38 AM, steve belfer wrote: > How often do you do the following? > > Change the oil and filter. Pretty much every two race weekends > > Replace rusty radiator water . Whenever I pull the head off > > Gap Plugs. Rarely > > Replace Plugs. Rarely > > Adj. Valves Check once per race weekend, adjust as needed > > Adj. Points. Almost never > > Adj SU carbs Webers--do an occasional sync check > > Inspect main bearings. Once a season--center main only > > Rebuild motor As needed--probably every two seasons > > > Steve > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > Bill Babcock Babcock & Jenkins Billb at bnj.com 503.936.7660 www.bnj.com Editor Ke Nalu e-Magazine Paddlesurfing's Web Journal Bill at kenalu.com www.kenalu.com blog: www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog From Billb at bnj.com Thu Dec 18 11:55:53 2008 From: Billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:55:53 -1000 Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <800C47DD-C132-4C20-B22B-C16433BD6BC3@bnj.com> I'd go to the same source. Cheap coils work fine. I bet they are all made in the same plant somewhere in India or Mexico. On Dec 18, 2008, at 8:43 AM, N197TR4 at cs.com wrote: > This should be easy, eh? > > I need to get a coil for the AMBRO. > > I think the one on the TR4 #197 is something I got from O'Reilly > Auto Parts. > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > Bill Babcock Babcock & Jenkins Billb at bnj.com 503.936.7660 www.bnj.com Editor Ke Nalu e-Magazine Paddlesurfing's Web Journal Bill at kenalu.com www.kenalu.com blog: www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog From spitlist at cox.net Thu Dec 18 12:42:28 2008 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:42:28 -0700 Subject: [Fot] LeMans In-Reply-To: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <69CC1DAB5D5744F385821C91846ED091@newcomputer> I discovered it this morning and set my DVR to record. Joe. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Doug Mitchell Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:45 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] LeMans Movie alert: Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. Doug Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From herald948 at aol.com Thu Dec 18 13:03:37 2008 From: herald948 at aol.com (Andrew Mace) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:03:37 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LeMans In-Reply-To: <4362ae390812180951u216be08ajc9ed200a360c98b2@mail.gmail.com> References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4362ae390812180951u216be08ajc9ed200a360c98b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CB2F62D914EE65-1170-267@WEBMAIL-DG05.sim.aol.com> -----Original Message----- From: Andre Rousseau Yeah, I mean when was the last time you saw a movie with almost ZERO dialog for 15mins. ==AM== Other than Mel Brooks' "Silent Movie," good point! :-) --Andy Mace *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant for The Vintage Triumph Register: http://www.vtr.org Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database at its new URL: http://triumph-herald.us From rocky at spitfire4.com Thu Dec 18 14:21:13 2008 From: rocky at spitfire4.com (Rocky Entriken) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:21:13 -0600 Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? References: <800C47DD-C132-4C20-B22B-C16433BD6BC3@bnj.com> Message-ID: <7A0E40974BF348729542231578BBFEF5@S1099895562> Cheap coils work fine if you have a cheap (stock) ignition system. I have a Lumenition electronic ignition on mine and a cheap coil won't drive it, so I also have a Lumenition coil. --Rocky Entriken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Babcock" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? > I'd go to the same source. Cheap coils work fine. I bet they are all > made in the same plant somewhere in India or Mexico. > > On Dec 18, 2008, at 8:43 AM, N197TR4 at cs.com wrote: > >> This should be easy, eh? >> >> I need to get a coil for the AMBRO. >> >> I think the one on the TR4 #197 is something I got from O'Reilly >> Auto Parts. >> >> Thanks >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Fot mailing list >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> > > Bill Babcock > Babcock & Jenkins > Billb at bnj.com > 503.936.7660 > www.bnj.com > > Editor > Ke Nalu e-Magazine > Paddlesurfing's Web Journal > > Bill at kenalu.com > www.kenalu.com > blog: www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From BillDentin at aol.com Thu Dec 18 14:54:02 2008 From: BillDentin at aol.com (BillDentin at aol.com) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:54:02 EST Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? Message-ID: In a message dated 12/18/2008 3:22:06 PM Central Standard Time, rocky at spitfire4.com writes: > Cheap coils work fine if you have a cheap (stock) ignition system. > > I have a Lumenition electronic ignition on mine and a cheap coil won't drive > > it, so I also have a Lumenition coil. > I always thought using a Lucas Sport Coil looked really British. Don't know if it was good or bad for a traditional ignition system though. But I always understood that the electronic ignition systems don't like the super/sport coils, but prefer the standard (cheap) coils. Any chance the Luminition coil is their way of seeing you don't use the 'super coil'? Bill Dentinger ************** One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp& icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) From william.tobin3 at verizon.net Thu Dec 18 16:17:35 2008 From: william.tobin3 at verizon.net (WILLIAM TOBIN) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:17:35 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LeMans References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003b01c96166$d0a60730$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> Hi all, I also like the movie, have a copy. But I also like Grand Prix; anything with James Garner and EM Saint can't be all bad. Also if you look closely, you'll see some of the real GP drivers of the day in some shots. Good soundtrack also. I haven't seen it yet but am told The World's Fastest Indian is also very good. Merry Christmas, Bill----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Mitchell" To: Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:45 PM Subject: [Fot] LeMans > Movie alert: > > Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. > > Doug > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From vintage.racer at comcast.net Thu Dec 18 16:52:53 2008 From: vintage.racer at comcast.net (Gary Horstkorta) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:52:53 -0800 Subject: [Fot] LeMans In-Reply-To: <003b01c96166$d0a60730$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <003b01c96166$d0a60730$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> Message-ID: <000701c9616b$bed07fe0$3c717fa0$@racer@comcast.net> Bill: I agree with both your cinematic choices and "The World's Fastest Indian" is quite good as well although it really condenses his life story. Read the book or get the DVD (includes extra material) to get the full extent of his amazing life. He certainly lived it to the fullest and on his own terms. Gary -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WILLIAM TOBIN Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 3:18 PM To: Doug Mitchell; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] LeMans Hi all, I also like the movie, have a copy. But I also like Grand Prix; anything with James Garner and EM Saint can't be all bad. Also if you look closely, you'll see some of the real GP drivers of the day in some shots. Good soundtrack also. I haven't seen it yet but am told The World's Fastest Indian is also very good. Merry Christmas, Bill----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Mitchell" To: Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:45 PM Subject: [Fot] LeMans > Movie alert: > > Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. > > Doug > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From spitlist at cox.net Thu Dec 18 17:04:37 2008 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:04:37 -0700 Subject: [Fot] LeMans In-Reply-To: <000701c9616b$bed07fe0$3c717fa0$@racer@comcast.net> References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com><003b01c96166$d0a60730$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> <000701c9616b$bed07fe0$3c717fa0$@racer@comcast.net> Message-ID: <29519FEEBC574A8780AD45AC21E1649D@newcomputer> I couldn't agree more on the Indian story. Joe C. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Horstkorta Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 4:53 PM To: 'WILLIAM TOBIN'; 'Doug Mitchell'; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] LeMans Bill: I agree with both your cinematic choices and "The World's Fastest Indian" is quite good as well although it really condenses his life story. Read the book or get the DVD (includes extra material) to get the full extent of his amazing life. He certainly lived it to the fullest and on his own terms. Gary -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WILLIAM TOBIN Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 3:18 PM To: Doug Mitchell; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] LeMans Hi all, I also like the movie, have a copy. But I also like Grand Prix; anything with James Garner and EM Saint can't be all bad. Also if you look closely, you'll see some of the real GP drivers of the day in some shots. Good soundtrack also. I haven't seen it yet but am told The World's Fastest Indian is also very good. Merry Christmas, Bill----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Mitchell" To: Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:45 PM Subject: [Fot] LeMans > Movie alert: > > Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. > > Doug > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From stutzmans at comcast.net Thu Dec 18 17:16:58 2008 From: stutzmans at comcast.net (Stutzman) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:16:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? References: Message-ID: <005501c9616f$1b8f9ab0$c80aa8c0@D9DGQM31> rule of thumb - stock engine - stock coil hot engine - sport coil or equivelant Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; Cc: Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? > In a message dated 12/18/2008 3:22:06 PM Central Standard Time, > rocky at spitfire4.com writes: > > >> Cheap coils work fine if you have a cheap (stock) ignition system. >> >> I have a Lumenition electronic ignition on mine and a cheap coil won't >> drive >> >> it, so I also have a Lumenition coil. >> > > I always thought using a Lucas Sport Coil looked really British. Don't > know > if it was good or bad for a traditional ignition system though. > > But I always understood that the electronic ignition systems don't like > the > super/sport coils, but prefer the standard (cheap) coils. Any chance the > Luminition coil is their way of seeing you don't use the 'super coil'? > > Bill Dentinger > > > > ************** > One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, > Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp& > icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From jmwagner at greenheart.com Thu Dec 18 20:30:35 2008 From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:30:35 -0800 Subject: [Fot] triumph Spitfire race car - $4800 (Palos Verdes Peninsula) Message-ID: <494B155B.8040202@greenheart.com> saw this on craigslist.... Triumph Spitfire race car - $4800 (Palos Verdes Peninsula) Reply to: sale-955842014 at craigslist.org [? ] Date: 2008-12-12, 5:01PM PST 1965 Triumph spitfire, frame off restoration over 70 % completed. New fuel cell,aluminum panels, seat, roll bar, reinforced frame and supporting structure, and other new parts through out, original revolution wheels, Kas Kasner parts, lightweight Bonnet and Deck lid. too much work that was done and parts to list Log book from mid 60's, vintage road racing eligible, or could be made street legal. Currently on rolling dolly. Great father/son or individual project. Must sell, great buy for someone who wants to get into vintage racing cheap, need the room. steve 310-600-9024 http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/955842014.html From edwardbarnard at prodigy.net Thu Dec 18 23:01:24 2008 From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net (EDWARD BARNARD) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:01:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <341492.73038.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Okay, at the risk of insulting everyone on the list, I use the Bosch Blue coil in everything I can. Just a favorite since I owned my first Bimmer. I haven't had a British car puke a German coil yet. -Ed- --- On Thu, 12/18/08, N197TR4 at cs.com wrote: From: N197TR4 at cs.com Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? To: fot at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 12:43 PM This should be easy, eh? I need to get a coil for the AMBRO. I think the one on the TR4 #197 is something I got from O'Reilly Auto Parts. Thanks Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From macdonaldp at rogers.com Fri Dec 19 10:15:18 2008 From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:15:18 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Tony A2z Message-ID: Check out this website foor great story and pictures. Early Group 44 pictures...(Dodge Dart) Page 46 Kas picture Lemans story and cars. Paul [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] From tr4racing at googlemail.com Sun Dec 21 03:46:45 2008 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:46:45 +0100 Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I use a BOSCH red colored coil with 30 KV output. This coil has an external resistor to fit to the TR4 and with the TR6 you can spoil the resistor because the TR6 has this resistor already fitted to the system. I use before that coil the blue Bosch but with the higher compression rate I thought it is time to move on to more power. Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von N197TR4 at cs.com Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Dezember 2008 19:44 An: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? This should be easy, eh? I need to get a coil for the AMBRO. I think the one on the TR4 #197 is something I got from O'Reilly Auto Parts. Thanks From dkettler at powercom.net Sun Dec 21 13:55:06 2008 From: dkettler at powercom.net (David Kettler) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 14:55:06 -0600 Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? References: Message-ID: <022D9BD408C441FA888529AA35F8AB2A@David> I have a stock engine/ignition system. I put in a Lucas Sport Coil about 4 years ago. The day before I was to drive 700 miles to Watkins Glen, the car didn't start. Traced it to the sport coil. Put in a used coil made in Israel which I've had laying around and it made the trip there and back without a problem. I'm not sure what I'm going to put in next. I'm leaning toward a stock Lucas coil. Dave Kettler 66TR4A ----- Original Message ----- From: "MadMarx" To: ; Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 4:46 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? >I use a BOSCH red colored coil with 30 KV output. This coil has an external > resistor to fit to the TR4 and with the TR6 you can spoil the resistor > because the TR6 has this resistor already fitted to the system. > > I use before that coil the blue Bosch but with the higher compression rate > I > thought it is time to move on to more power. > > Chris > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im > Auftrag von N197TR4 at cs.com > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Dezember 2008 19:44 > An: fot at autox.team.net > Betreff: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? > > This should be easy, eh? > > I need to get a coil for the AMBRO. > > I think the one on the TR4 #197 is something I got from O'Reilly Auto > Parts. > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From rocky at spitfire4.com Sun Dec 21 15:59:37 2008 From: rocky at spitfire4.com (Rocky Entriken) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:59:37 -0600 Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? References: <022D9BD408C441FA888529AA35F8AB2A@David> Message-ID: <6E47D2A920A7478DBC16BDD0ACFA53C9@S1099895562> Y'know, as much as we love our LBCs, it's amusing how many of us don't love Lord Lucas's accessories. Try an Accel or a Mallory or something off O'Reilly's shelf. Lord Lucas -- Prince of Darkness long before Ozzy Osborne Lord Lucas -- father of the intermittent wiper Why do British drink warm beer? Lucas refrigerators! I could go on.... :-) --Rocky Entriken ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Kettler" To: "MadMarx" ; ; Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? >I have a stock engine/ignition system. I put in a Lucas Sport Coil about 4 >years ago. The day before I was to drive 700 miles to Watkins Glen, the >car didn't start. Traced it to the sport coil. Put in a used coil made in >Israel which I've had laying around and it made the trip there and back >without a problem. > > I'm not sure what I'm going to put in next. I'm leaning toward a stock > Lucas coil. > > Dave Kettler > > 66TR4A > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MadMarx" > To: ; > Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 4:46 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? > > >>I use a BOSCH red colored coil with 30 KV output. This coil has an >>external >> resistor to fit to the TR4 and with the TR6 you can spoil the resistor >> because the TR6 has this resistor already fitted to the system. >> >> I use before that coil the blue Bosch but with the higher compression >> rate I >> thought it is time to move on to more power. >> >> Chris >> >> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] Im >> Auftrag von N197TR4 at cs.com >> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Dezember 2008 19:44 >> An: fot at autox.team.net >> Betreff: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? >> >> This should be easy, eh? >> >> I need to get a coil for the AMBRO. >> >> I think the one on the TR4 #197 is something I got from O'Reilly Auto >> Parts. >> >> Thanks >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Fot mailing list >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From triosan at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 19:37:39 2008 From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:37:39 -0800 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Need a TR6 4 speed mainshaft In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8cbd782d0812211837jf153613u80824c7b0eb0f349@mail.gmail.com> I have late 4 speed tranny that had a j-type od till the diff broke at maximum torque in 2nd gear -- resulted in chewing up the end of the main shaft and ruining the OD mechanicals. Built a new race car. [not cause the diff broke, still have that car -- it is for lapping days and spirited street driving, but not racing. The new car has about 200 hp at the wheels [I guess,given how it performed versus the one I had dynoed at 180]. IT came with Goodparts 4.08 Nissan rear end and a non-working a-type OD. I had to lift at 7000 in 4th. Blew the engine up [something weird in oiling to #6 rod bearing -- I have lots of oil tricks so it should not have happend --suspect FOD]. So, what I am doing is building a close ratio box in the old j-type tranny [which is why I needed the mainshaft of which I now have two]. I have swapped the 4.08 diff for a 3.5. That should make my top end a more reasonable 6500. The engine breathing and cam seem to make best torque and hp above 4500. Can hardly wait to get it all together again. Other things I am doing this year is installing a Quartermaster two disk clutch, an ATI fluid damper, main bearing strengthening kit [which includes a steel housing for the rear main bearing and a steel sealing block] and an aluminum sump. The last two come from Racestorations in the UK. I got them at $1.45 to the pound!. The aluminum pan is a work of art -- it is very much stiffer and holds more oil -- and includes a windage tray. Racestorations has another couple of really trick parts I will get next year. These include heim joints for the upper a-arms so you can adjust each independently -- will allow really dialing in camber and caster. The other neat trick is machining the trailing arm and installing bearings instead of the bushings. http://www.racetorations.co.uk/catbend.html Chuck Happy racing! On 12/21/08, MMoore8425 at aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 12/14/2008 11:55:28 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > triosan at gmail.com writes: > > Anyone have a later tranny TR6 main shaft they would like to sell? > Someone > who converted their 4 speed to OD would be a good candidate.Thanks, > > > > > Have you found your mainshaft? > > Where are you? > > Thanks > Mike Moore > > Engineering Manager > CL Moore & Associates, Inc. > 17590 Holiday Drive, Morgan Hill, > California 95037 > 408-782-1272 fax 408-782-1372 > **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, > Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) > -- Chuck Arnold From Billb at bnj.com Sun Dec 21 21:47:01 2008 From: Billb at bnj.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:47:01 -1000 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Need a TR6 4 speed mainshaft In-Reply-To: <8cbd782d0812211837jf153613u80824c7b0eb0f349@mail.gmail.com> References: <8cbd782d0812211837jf153613u80824c7b0eb0f349@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Take it easy with dialing in caster--you'll put a bind in the lower pivot. And talk to Garmey--he has prettier parts for the upper arms than Heim joints. On Dec 21, 2008, at 4:37 PM, Chuck Arnold wrote: > I have late 4 speed tranny that had a j-type od till the diff broke at > maximum torque in 2nd gear -- resulted in chewing up the end of the > main shaft and ruining the OD mechanicals. Built a new race car. > [not cause the diff broke, still have that car -- it is for lapping > days and spirited street driving, but not racing. The new car has > about 200 hp at the wheels [I guess,given how it performed versus the > one I had dynoed at 180]. IT came with Goodparts 4.08 Nissan rear end > and a non-working a-type OD. I had to lift at 7000 in 4th. Blew the > engine up [something weird in oiling to #6 rod bearing -- I have lots > of oil tricks so it should not have happend --suspect FOD]. > > So, what I am doing is building a close ratio box in the old j-type > tranny [which is why I needed the mainshaft of which I now have two]. > I have swapped the 4.08 diff for a 3.5. That should make my top end a > more reasonable 6500. The engine breathing and cam seem to make best > torque and hp above 4500. Can hardly wait to get it all together > again. Other things I am doing this year is installing a Quartermaster > two disk clutch, an ATI fluid damper, main bearing strengthening kit > [which includes a steel housing for the rear main bearing and a steel > sealing block] and an aluminum sump. The last two come from > Racestorations in the UK. I got them at $1.45 to the pound!. The > aluminum pan is a work of art -- it is very much stiffer and holds > more oil -- and includes a windage tray. > > Racestorations has another couple of really trick parts I will get > next year. These include heim joints for the upper a-arms so you can > adjust each independently -- will allow really dialing in camber and > caster. The other neat trick is machining the trailing arm and > installing bearings instead of the bushings. > > http://www.racetorations.co.uk/catbend.html > > Chuck > Happy racing! > > > > On 12/21/08, MMoore8425 at aol.com wrote: >> >> >> In a message dated 12/14/2008 11:55:28 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> triosan at gmail.com writes: >> >> Anyone have a later tranny TR6 main shaft they would like to sell? >> Someone >> who converted their 4 speed to OD would be a good candidate.Thanks, >> >> >> >> >> Have you found your mainshaft? >> >> Where are you? >> >> Thanks >> Mike Moore >> >> Engineering Manager >> CL Moore & Associates, Inc. >> 17590 Holiday Drive, Morgan Hill, >> California 95037 >> 408-782-1272 fax 408-782-1372 >> **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL >> Mail, >> Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. >> (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025 >> ) >> > > > -- > Chuck Arnold > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > Bill Babcock Babcock & Jenkins Billb at bnj.com 503.936.7660 www.bnj.com Editor Ke Nalu e-Magazine Paddlesurfing's Web Journal Bill at kenalu.com www.kenalu.com blog: www.ponohouse.com/ponoblog From macdonaldp at rogers.com Mon Dec 22 07:35:16 2008 From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:35:16 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR6 Race Car Message-ID: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=330295581 315&ih=014&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem= Just saw this on Ebay...NFI. Paul [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] From budscars at comcast.net Mon Dec 22 13:33:33 2008 From: budscars at comcast.net (RACER BUD) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:33:33 -0800 Subject: [Fot] 1970 SPITFIRE FOR SALE..NEAR SACRAMENTO, CA Message-ID: <812E97F9907C449287EEA453712CEBAE@Bud> Hi gang...1970 spitfire for sale runs and drives...needs seats 1600.00...contact James Long at blackbox1966 at yahoo.com Racer bud..spitfire #21 From jmwagner at greenheart.com Mon Dec 22 19:20:30 2008 From: jmwagner at greenheart.com (Justin Wagner) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:20:30 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Triumph Spitfire race car - $4800 (Palos Verdes Peninsula) Message-ID: <49504AEE.3080001@greenheart.com> Just ran across this on Craigslist, thought I'd pass it along... --Justin Triumph Spitfire race car - $4800 (Palos Verdes Peninsula) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Reply to: sale-965661655 at craigslist.org [? ] Date: 2008-12-20, 9:02PM PST 1965 triumph spitfire race car under restoration,currently about 70 % completed, frame off restoration. Has SCCA race history, last raced June 1977 and log book. Many new parts including fuel cell, fire system, paint, aluminum interior work, has original revolution wheels, kas kassner parts, Light weight bonnet and rear deck lid. New roll bar which reinforces front and trar suspension and side impact protection. New racing windscreen etc. Great entry race car and easy restoration project. $ 4800.00 Steve 310-600-9024 http://images.craigslist.org/11a1f71383n23k73p48cke2a78b81c0c51a9d.jpg http://images.craigslist.org/1f01291gd3m13p83o78cka4dc8de12973148d.jpg http://images.craigslist.org/1f21271333ne3m33oa8ckb9fbca772f0e15d7.jpg * Location: Palos Verdes Peninsula From Guyots3 at wmconnect.com Mon Dec 22 20:36:51 2008 From: Guyots3 at wmconnect.com (Guyots3 at wmconnect.com) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:36:51 EST Subject: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? Message-ID: In a message dated 12/21/2008 11:00:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, fot-request at autox.team.net writes: > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:46:45 +0100 > From: "MadMarx" > Subject: Re: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? > To: , > Message-ID: > !AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAADB609xTkH9Aiiet8z0UXpTCgAAAEAAAAOANABddDrRNpAbLO0GPahgBAAAAAA==@googlemail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I use a BOSCH red colored coil with 30 KV output. This coil has an external > resistor to fit to the TR4 and with the TR6 you can spoil the resistor > because the TR6 has this resistor already fitted to the system. > > I use before that coil the blue Bosch but with the higher compression rate I > thought it is time to move on to more power. > > Chris Hi Chris, We have just been having a discussion about coils on another forum. Some people favour the Bosch Red Coil over their Blue one, but I have an MSD Digital 6 Plus box and have to use a low resistance coil so will be using an MSD coil specifically designed for that application. MSD offer some awesome coils, I have NFI. Anyhow, here is a link to the forum thread. http://www.sideways-technologies.co.uk/forum/Blah.pl?m-1228840211/s-39/highlig ht-coil/#num39 Chris, I think you should join that forum, you could get some very useful information there. Best Regards Leon F Guyot From Billbab at mac.com Mon Dec 22 20:40:02 2008 From: Billbab at mac.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:40:02 -1000 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: [TR] Need a TR6 4 speed mainshaft References: Message-ID: <62D6A50A-5756-4964-BD28-797C05532756@mac.com> Oops, bounced--too long Begin forwarded message: > Tony Garmey, Horizon racing. First class fabricator, race car > restorer/builder and all around hot shoe. He did the great looking > nose on Peyote last year. Also maintains Bill Hart's cars including > the TR250K. I cc'ed him on this message in case you'd like to get in > touch with him. Great guy, does fantastic work, reasonable. > > > On Dec 22, 2008, at 5:07 PM, Allen Washatko wrote: > >> Bill, >> >> Who is Garmey? >> >> Allen >> >> On Dec 21, 2008, at 10:47 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: >> >>> Take it easy with dialing in caster--you'll put a bind in the lower >>> pivot. And talk to Garmey--he has prettier parts for the upper arms >>> than Heim joints. From tr4racing at googlemail.com Tue Dec 23 09:20:30 2008 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:20:30 +0100 Subject: [Fot] WG: I have a question...what is your favorite coil? Message-ID: The reason for the BOSCH coil isit works perfect with all the ignition systems on the market. Friends of mine used Flamethrower and other special coils that are recommended for the specific ignition systems but after some races these coils caused trouble. After installing the red BOSCH they worked. Im always after reliable parts so a coil that can be used with all ignition systems is an advantage I suppose. I only killed one blue BOSCH after I forgot to switch off the ign and left it burning for some hours. Good to have fuses in the circuit. Cheers Chris Von: Guyots3 at wmconnect.com [mailto:Guyots3 at wmconnect.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. Dezember 2008 04:37 An: fot at autox.team.net Cc: tr4racing at googlemail.com Betreff: Re: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? In a message dated 12/21/2008 11:00:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, fot-request at autox.team.net writes: Message: 1 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:46:45 +0100 From: "MadMarx" Subject: Re: [Fot] I have a question...what is your favorite coil? To: , Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I use a BOSCH red colored coil with 30 KV output. This coil has an external resistor to fit to the TR4 and with the TR6 you can spoil the resistor because the TR6 has this resistor already fitted to the system. I use before that coil the blue Bosch but with the higher compression rate I thought it is time to move on to more power. Chris Hi Chris, We have just been having a discussion about coils on another forum. Some people favour the Bosch Red Coil over their Blue one, but I have an MSD Digital 6 Plus box and have to use a low resistance coil so will be using an MSD coil specifically designed for that application. MSD offer some awesome coils, I have NFI. Anyhow, here is a link to the forum thread. http://www.sideways-technologies.co.uk/forum/Blah.pl?m-1228840211/s-39/highl ight-coil/#num39 Chris, I think you should join that forum, you could get some very useful information there. Best Regards Leon F Guyot From trmarty at hotmail.com Wed Dec 24 09:27:38 2008 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:27:38 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Leo Oddi Message-ID: Leo, if your out there could you drop me an email so I can snag your e-address? thanks, Marty _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. http://windowslive.com/oneline/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_anywhere _122008 From rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com Thu Dec 25 05:34:55 2008 From: rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com (Bob) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 07:34:55 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR6 gearbox Message-ID: <49537DEF.8070709@cfl.rr.com> There was a recent post on FOT looking for a (I think) gearbox main shaft. There is one on ebay. Item number is 220332935903. Bob From klynch_6 at msn.com Thu Dec 25 12:49:46 2008 From: klynch_6 at msn.com (KEVIN LYNCH) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:49:46 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Dec. 25th Message-ID: Want to wish the group a very Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah...etc. The very best to you & yours in the coming year! Kev Lynch Colo. From budscars at comcast.net Thu Dec 25 12:57:30 2008 From: budscars at comcast.net (budscars at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:57:30 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Dec. 25th Message-ID: <380-220081242519573049@M2W017.mail2web.com> Thanks Kevin..and Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to All Racer Bud..Spitfire #21...(Santa didn't put my tranny in for me) Original Message: ----------------- From: KEVIN LYNCH klynch_6 at msn.com Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:49:46 -0700 To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Dec. 25th Want to wish the group a very Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah...etc. The very best to you & yours in the coming year! Kev Lynch Colo. Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - Microsoft. Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange From mark at bradakis.com Thu Dec 25 13:50:19 2008 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:50:19 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Off for the weekend Message-ID: <4953F20B.4070105@bradakis.com> Karen and I will be heading out to the airport soon, flying to Phoenix to spend some time with relatives. We should be back sunday night. The servers have been behaving, I'm anticipating only one problem. We have a big storm moving into SLC this evening. If the power goes out for longer than the UPS can handle it, the servers may not come back up cleanly, and Team.Net could be off the air until I get back to fix it. Hopefully there will be no interruption. Have a pleasant weekend. mjb. From budscars at comcast.net Thu Dec 25 15:16:47 2008 From: budscars at comcast.net (budscars at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 17:16:47 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Off for the weekend Message-ID: <380-2200812425221647296@M2W002.mail2web.com> thanks Mark...and thanks for 'running the show' for us Racer Bud Original Message: ----------------- From: Mark J Bradakis mark at bradakis.com Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:50:19 -0700 To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Off for the weekend Karen and I will be heading out to the airport soon, flying to Phoenix to spend some time with relatives. We should be back sunday night. The servers have been behaving, I'm anticipating only one problem. We have a big storm moving into SLC this evening. If the power goes out for longer than the UPS can handle it, the servers may not come back up cleanly, and Team.Net could be off the air until I get back to fix it. Hopefully there will be no interruption. Have a pleasant weekend. mjb. Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft. Windows. and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting From billsohl at optonline.net Fri Dec 26 15:16:55 2008 From: billsohl at optonline.net (Bill Sohl) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:16:55 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LeMans In-Reply-To: <4362ae390812180951u216be08ajc9ed200a360c98b2@mail.gmail.com> References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4362ae390812180951u216be08ajc9ed200a360c98b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Andre, Great basement decor. Where's you find the wallpaper border that is at the top of the walls? Cheers Bill Sohl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andre Rousseau" To: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] LeMans > Yeah, I mean when was the last time you saw a movie with almost ZERO > dialog for 15mins. > > Love that movie so much I have this in my basement. > > http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/gallery/02-05-05/slides/IMG_3198.JPG > > http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/diy-posterbox/images/lightbox.gif > > A. > > 2008/12/18 Terry Stetler : >> Best racing movie ever. >> >> Terry Stetler >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Doug Mitchell >> To: fot at autox.team.net >> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:45 PM >> Subject: [Fot] LeMans >> >> >> Movie alert: >> >> Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. >> >> Doug >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net >> http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Fot mailing list >> Fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot> stinfo/fot> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Fot mailing list >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> >> > > > > -- > Andre Rousseau - andre at gt6.ca > '68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/ > Ottawa, ON, Canada > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From andre at gt6.ca Fri Dec 26 15:40:22 2008 From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:40:22 -0500 Subject: [Fot] LeMans In-Reply-To: References: <774867.72658.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4362ae390812180951u216be08ajc9ed200a360c98b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4362ae390812261440p2e4388aerfe4d5c897a9114ed@mail.gmail.com> Ha, Hi Bill we got that Home Depot back in 2002! The latest Triumph in my ah... Stable.. A Stag. http://temp.justdrive.ca/IMG_1345.jpg 2008/12/26 Bill Sohl : > Andre, > > Great basement decor. > > Where's you find the wallpaper border that is at the top of the walls? > > Cheers > Bill Sohl > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andre Rousseau" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:51 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] LeMans > > >> Yeah, I mean when was the last time you saw a movie with almost ZERO >> dialog for 15mins. >> >> Love that movie so much I have this in my basement. >> >> http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/gallery/02-05-05/slides/IMG_3198.JPG >> >> http://www.justdrive.ca/theatre/diy-posterbox/images/lightbox.gif >> >> A. >> >> 2008/12/18 Terry Stetler : >>> >>> Best racing movie ever. >>> >>> Terry Stetler >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Doug Mitchell >>> To: fot at autox.team.net >>> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:45 PM >>> Subject: [Fot] LeMans >>> >>> >>> Movie alert: >>> >>> Turner Classic is showing LeMans at 8:00 Eastern tonight, December 18. >>> >>> Doug >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net >>> http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Fot mailing list >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot>> stinfo/fot> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Fot mailing list >>> Fot at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Andre Rousseau - andre at gt6.ca >> '68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/ >> Ottawa, ON, Canada >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Fot mailing list >> Fot at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >> > > -- Andre Rousseau - andre at gt6.ca '68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/ Ottawa, ON, Canada From rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com Sat Dec 27 09:02:58 2008 From: rdavis4 at cfl.rr.com (Bob) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:02:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] OD shift knob Message-ID: <495651B2.6070405@cfl.rr.com> Anyone have a Spitfire or GT6 (or even an MGB) overdrive shift knob they would like to sell? thxx, Bob From dave at microworks.net Sun Dec 28 00:46:45 2008 From: dave at microworks.net (David W. Riddle) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:46:45 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Cool video from Firebird Message-ID: <20081228074649.XOGJ131.fed1rmmtao107.cox.net@fed1rmimpo03.cox.net> This weekend I did a complete makeover of our Kart groups website. This evening I put an edited video of two shifters with on-board cameras passing/repassing on Firebird's West track that was shot on the 20th. Enjoy... http://www.southwestkarters.com/ From andre at gt6.ca Sun Dec 28 20:01:53 2008 From: andre at gt6.ca (Andre Rousseau) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 22:01:53 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Anyone got... Message-ID: Hey anyone buy the cd from the photo guy at the Glen this yr? He captured 2 shots of my GT6, which I would love. Thanks. A. -- Andre Rousseau - andre at gt6.ca '68 Triumph GT6 MK1 - http://www.gt6.ca/ Ottawa, ON, Canada From walt at hot-tr6.com Tue Dec 30 09:34:40 2008 From: walt at hot-tr6.com (Walter Hollowell) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:34:40 -0700 Subject: [Fot] U-Joints. Spicer Message-ID: <20081230163455.A2FBC187660@autox.team.net> For my TR6 racecar with a Quaife limited I prefer to use Spicer 5-4x u-joints. These Spicer units seem to hold up while the NAPA 344 and Neacpo 1-0005 (China made) tend to grenade. My Spicer source tells me the 5-4x is an obsolete part and will soon no longer be available. Do any other FOT members no of a strong U-joint for a TR6 you can recommend? Thank You Walt Hollowell Abq., NM _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter We are a community of 5.8 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 29027 of my spam emails to date. The Professional version does not have this message From triosan at gmail.com Tue Dec 30 09:50:14 2008 From: triosan at gmail.com (triosan at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:50:14 +0000 Subject: [Fot] U-Joints. Spicer Message-ID: Try goodparts.com ------Original Message------ From: Walter Hollowell Sender: fot-bounces at autox.team.net To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] U-Joints. Spicer Sent: Dec 30, 2008 8:34 AM For my TR6 racecar with a Quaife limited I prefer to use Spicer 5-4x u-joints. These Spicer units seem to hold up while the NAPA 344 and Neacpo 1-0005 (China made) tend to grenade. My Spicer source tells me the 5-4x is an obsolete part and will soon no longer be available. Do any other FOT members no of a strong U-joint for a TR6 you can recommend? Thank You Walt Hollowell Abq., NM _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter We are a community of 5.8 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 29027 of my spam emails to date. The Professional version does not have this message _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html http://www.fot-racing.com Fot mailing list Fot at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot Sent from my BlackBerry. smartphone with SprintSpeed From tr4racing at googlemail.com Tue Dec 30 12:00:23 2008 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (MadMarx) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:00:23 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Nuerburgring Nordschleife 400 km race In-Reply-To: <2B52E8650115BB4085979C721A085AD40A3CFC@server.Triumph.local> References: <2B52E8650115BB4085979C721A085AD40A3CFC@server.Triumph.local> Message-ID: <001201c96ab0$df120be0$9d3623a0$@com> Now...how about some photos that show cavitation of the rotor of the water pump. 128-5394.jpg 128-5391.jpg 128-5392.jpg As you can see, the wheel is in good condition but on the low pressure side of the wings there are typical signs of cavitation. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Henry Frye [mailto:henry at henryfrye.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Oktober 2008 19:54 An: MadMarx; fot at autox.team.net Betreff: RE: [Fot] Nuerburgring Nordschleife 400 km race Chris, With the parts on the race car, exact measurements are difficult to get at the moment. I am running the second generation harmonic balancer kit from Ken Gillanders. I believe he gets them from the UK. Ken, do you know what the sizes of those pulleys are? If you expect cavitation, it would be easy to hook up a pressure gauge as I described below. The purpose built water pressure gauge died, so I replaced it with an oil pressure gauge I had laying about, it works fine. Pressure is pressure... On your next race out you can watch the gauge to see if there is any drop at high revs. Mine does not. > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of MadMarx > Sent: October 02, 2008 10:06 AM > To: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Nuerburgring Nordschleife 400 km race > > Henry, > > can you tell me the sizes of your crank and water pump pulleys? > I have the stock water pump with that sharp edged impeller. I > really suspect the impeller to cavitating when turning longer > at high revs. I hold 6000 for about 30-40 seconds in on go. > > Chris > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Henry Frye [mailto:henry at henryfrye.com] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. Oktober 2008 13:55 > An: MadMarx > Betreff: RE: [Fot] Nuerburgring Nordschleife 400 km race > > Are you running a stock water pump with a stock pulley? If > so, I find it hard to believe it was cavitating with only 1/2 > liter of water loss. > > I run the narrow belt conversion, the water pump pulley is > very close to stock, in not stock size, and run to 7000+ with > a very aggressive water pump impeller and have no cavitation > issues. I have a water pressure gauge plumbed into the block > drain port at the rear of the block and it will show over 30 > pounds per square inch of pressure at max RPM. > > I routinely lose about that much water every session, I > believe most it goes into the overflow. If I do not check the > water until the engine is completely cool most of it returns > from the overflow bottle. > > Sorry your weekend was more fuss than racing. We all have them... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: MadMarxt > > Subject: Re: [Fot] Nuerburgring Nordschleife 400 km race > > > > Now the thread was burried down in the block. End of > race - I thought > > but after I told my hotelier about the misfit he invented a > head stud > > extractor while I had breakfast. With that tool it took 10 > minutes to > > get that thread part out. > > > > A half a liter water was forced out - nothing else. > > I suppose that the water pump is spinning too fast at > 6000 and start > > cavitating which cause the water loss. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image002.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image003.jpg] From william.tobin3 at verizon.net Tue Dec 30 18:56:12 2008 From: william.tobin3 at verizon.net (WILLIAM TOBIN) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:56:12 -0500 Subject: [Fot] U-Joints. Spicer References: <20081230163455.A2FBC187660@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <00bf01c96aea$fa1ac640$2f01a8c0@ownereq69gs6ae> Hi, you might also try Ted Schumacher at TSI; he has some HD u-joints. 800 543-6648 Usual disclaimer: no financial interest. Happy New Year, Bill----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter Hollowell" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 11:34 AM Subject: [Fot] U-Joints. Spicer > For my TR6 racecar with a Quaife limited I prefer to use Spicer 5-4x > u-joints. These Spicer units seem to hold up while the NAPA 344 and Neacpo > 1-0005 (China made) > tend to grenade. My Spicer source tells me the 5-4x is an obsolete part and > will soon no longer be available. Do any other FOT members no of a strong > U-joint for a TR6 you can recommend? > Thank You > Walt Hollowell > Abq., NM > > _____ > > I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter > We are a community of 5.8 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 29027 of my spam emails to date. > The Professional version does not have this message > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Fot mailing list > Fot at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot From colordog.1 at earthlink.net Tue Dec 30 20:49:19 2008 From: colordog.1 at earthlink.net (Steven Belfer) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:49:19 -0800 Subject: [Fot] When do you replace a rubber lip seal? Message-ID: <83E4150B-5088-4E72-B92D-30548CB32DC8@earthlink.net> I'm rebuilding a TR3 motor with 20 races on it. I know that's a lot. It's back from the shop and ready to put back together. It's got one of those rubber lip seal conversions. It didn't leak more than it's supposed to, ha ha. Is this lip seal a part that should be replaced? Now would be the right time to do it but it looks good and I'm on the fence between putting it back in the car and getting a new one. I've heard there are two types of these seals. How do I know which one I've got? There aren't any markings on it. So... A, can these things last 20 years? B, What should I measure to figure out what I've got C, Who sells the best ones? ~Steve From dave at microworks.net Tue Dec 30 23:02:21 2008 From: dave at microworks.net (David W. Riddle) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:02:21 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Mustang Challenge Message-ID: <20081231060237.JLDM2948.fed1rmmtao101.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> I finally saw an episode (Round 1 @ Road Atlanta and Round 2 @ Mosport) of that Mustang Challenge show on HD Theater, "Why We Race". Must say that it sure looks like most of the drivers in that series pretty much SUCK. The young, under funded, heavy set kid from Washington State that won both of those races certainly looks to be smooth, controlled and precise behind the wheel. Based on the profile they highlighted him with I would put it down to him starting in Karts and then when he moved to cars it was driving a Miata. Vehicles that you have to be smooth and controlled in. They did not highlight the background on the other drivers but I would be willing to bet that most did not cut their teeth in low horse-powered momentum type cars. Probably like quite a few students I have that come out to the track for their first DE day and start talking about getting a powerful car and getting their race license. They don't want to hear my advice that they get a Miata or a 944 first to learn the craft. Lots of carnage, loose cars, low percentage passes. There was even one moron on the radio to his crew talking about whether or not he should pass his teammate under the FCY sincd there would only be a few laps of green remaining! Sad to see so many cars wrecked for no reason.