[Fot] F1 Championship - Not over yet?!

Kas Kastner kaskas at cox.net
Mon Oct 22 15:01:09 MDT 2007


Absolutely, you protest EVERYTHING.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William G Rosenbach" <wgrosenbach at juno.com>
To: <billb at bnj.com>
Cc: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] F1 Championship - Not over yet?!


> Is it time to suspect thermometers? Accuracy, calibration, user
> competency; the basics.
> Bill R
>
> On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 23:18:30 -0700 Bill Babcock <billb at bnj.com> writes:
>> Oops, jammed up by the message size limit. Let's try this:
>> On Oct 21, 2007, at 11:16 PM, Bill Babcock wrote:
>>
>> > I should have put quotes around this section
>> > On Oct 21, 2007, at 11:14 PM, Bill Babcock wrote:
>> >
>> >> Actually, you're wrong, and that's part of the steward's
>> decision.
>> >> The FIA samples the fuel during pits stops. They don't take it
>> from
>> >> the car, they take it from the fueling rig.
>> >>
>> >> >>>"Article 6.5.5 of the F1 technical rules state that, No fuel
>> >> on board
>> >> the car may be more than 10 degrees centigrade below ambient
>> >> temperature. The FIA have now confirmed that the trios fuel
>> >> temperatures were outside the permitted temperatures, saying the
>> fuel
>> >> was more than 10 degrees below the ambient temperature.
>> >>
>> >> In a statement, it has been revealed that during his first
>> pit-stop,
>> >> Heidfelds fuel temperature was 13 degrees lower than the
>> ambient
>> >> temperature, and during his second stop, his fuel was 12 degrees
>> >> lower.
>> >>
>> >> Robert Kubicas pit-stops have revealed that his temperatures
>> were 14
>> >> degrees, 13 degrees and 13 degrees out respectively. Nico
>> Rosbergs
>> >> fuel temperatures were 13 and 12 degrees out.
>> >>
>> >> It has also been revealed that the second BMW of Kazuki Nakajima
>> also
>> >> had fuel temperature irregularities  his fuel was 12 degrees out
>> on
>> >> the first stop, however his fuel temperatures were within
>> regulations
>> >> on his second stop. The air temperature during the race averaged
>> 37
>> >> degrees, while track temperatures topped a record 64
>> degrees."<<<
>> >>
>> >> The stewards stated in their finding that they have no precise
>> >> reading of the fuel on board the car, and that since the only
>> >> temperatures they have available are from the fueling rigs, that
>> the
>> >> measurements don't fit the requirements of the regulation which
>> >> states the "fuel on board can be no more than ten degrees cooler
>> than
>> >> ambient." Fuel rig temperature is not a completely accurate
>> >> indication of the temperature on board, which is the how the
>> >> regulation reads.
>> >>
>> >> This seems to be a pretty clear decision even if it rests on a
>> >> technical point that the stewards are not really qualified to
>> make.
>> >> But they unfortunately clouded the issue by also saying that the
>> >> definition of ambient was only assumed to be the temperature
>> >> indicated on the F1 management timing monitors but there was a
>> large
>> >> discrepancy between the FOM ambient and the meteorologists that
>> the
>> >> teams contract with, and the regulation does not clearly state
>> that
>> >> the FOM number is definitive.
>> >>
>> >> The stewards conclusion was that there is sufficient doubt as to
>> both
>> >> the temperature of the fuel actually on board and as to the true
>> >> ambient temperature to render it inappropriate to impose a
>> penalty
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