[Fot] KASTNER CUP CHALLENGE - WATKINS GLEN 2008

Keith Files keithfiles at btinternet.com
Sun Oct 14 11:10:39 MDT 2007


Hi Geoff,

Thanks for the info. I was hoping that, as part of my retirement in a 5
years time, to do a bit of a tour with the TR6 and Oz was on my list of
places to visit especially Phillip Island and Bathurst. I guess that I will
need to re-consider; would my US TR4 built to the US vintage regulations be
acceptable?  

Cheers, Keith.


-----Original Message-----
From: Geoffrey Byrne [mailto:gkbyrne at optushome.com.au] 
Sent: 09 October 2007 00:18
To: Keith Files; 'Kas Kastner'; 'Mike Munson'; JWoesvra at aol.com;
jaxonracing at yahoo.com; ehusmann53 at yahoo.com; N197TR4 at cs.com;
emanteno at comcast.net; sgroh1 at comcast.net;
westerneagleracing at worldnet.att.net; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] KASTNER CUP CHALLENGE - WATKINS GLEN 2008

  Friends
  Just to add an international perspective for interest , Keiths car would
not get an Historic Log Book in Australia . Our Historic cars have to be OEM
with very little mods ie plus one inch wider wheels
  Geoff Byrne
  TR6 racer down under
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Keith Files" <keithfiles at btinternet.com>
  To: "'Kas Kastner'" <kaskas at cox.net>; "'Mike Munson'"
<fasttrs at mindspring.com>; <JWoesvra at aol.com>; <jaxonracing at yahoo.com>;
<ehusmann53 at yahoo.com>; <N197TR4 at cs.com>; <emanteno at comcast.net>;
<sgroh1 at comcast.net>; <westerneagleracing at worldnet.att.net>;
<fot at autox.team.net>
  Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 3:28 AM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] KASTNER CUP CHALLENGE - WATKINS GLEN 2008


  > HI everybody,
  >
  > Just got back from yet another business trip and have just picked up on
the
  > cars for the Glen eligibility debate. I don't intend to voice an opinion
  > either way but I would like to let you all know what is in my UK TR6
when
  > compared to yours; hopefully this might set the record straight about
the
  > Brit cars. For those of you who know these things my modified Red/Silver
TR6
  > placed 4th overall at M-O in the hands of Jon wood in 2002 and won
outright
  > at VIR in 2004.
  >
  > My TR6 has:
  >
  > Engine: Triumph TR6 block with a full steel engine running Omega +60
pistons
  > (makes it around 2600 cc), has Carrillo rods, a billet crank, steel
caps,
  > Cambridge Motorsports steel flywheel, Classic RaceCraft cam, triple 45
DCOE
  > Webbers, roller rockers, ported and flowed head and large valves,
luminiton
  > ignition 200bhp - nothing trick just built by Jon Wood of Classic
RaceCraft
  > for the princely sum of c $20k.
  >
  > Gearbox: Triumph Stag casing (for strength), dog gears, no overdrive,
  > Quartermaster clutch.
  >
  > Diff: Triumph diff with Salisbury LSD and 3.9:1 CWP (or 4.1:1 depending
on
  > circuit).
  >
  > Suspension: Adjustable koni shocks all round (rear lever arms where
  > terrible), up rated springs and poly bushes.
  >
  > Brakes: Standard rear drums, up rated Willwood ventilated rotors and 4
pot
  > callipers (these do make a big difference).
  >
  > Body: All original steel panels except for GRP hood, trunk lid, drivers
door
  > and all 4 wings and hardtop - all up weight is 930 kgs which is only
94kgs
  > less than a standard road car.
  >
  > Wheels: 6" Compomotive running Yokohama A008R 205/60/15 tyres.
  >
  > The winning TR5 at M-O was the same specification as it was also built
by
  > Jon Wood; it is lighter than mine at around 875kgs that's all.
  >
  > The TR8s are different as they run up to 4.0 litres and around 300bhb as
  > well as GRP panels; had Vern Brannon and Jon Wood not tangled at M-O
then
  > Vern would have won in his modified TR8 (slicks, no weight and 400+ bhp)
by
  > a country mile.
  >
  > At VIR we were the only wet race; it rained as we gridded up and being a
  > Brit that was to my advantage - we get loads of practice in the wet over
  > here :-)  - and I took a narrow victory from 2 rather special and well
  > driven spitfires.
  >
  > As you can see there is no big secret to this car; it will be coming
over in
  > 2012 for the 60th anniversary race where it will be driven by my son; I
am
  > going to take him on in my US TR4 and, hopefully, apply experience over
  > youth and beat him. I will be happy to show this car to any of you guys
just
  > to show you that it is not that special and that all of the parts are
  > available to the 6 cylinder runners over in the US (and I know there are
  > some very rapid 6 cylinder cars over there already).
  >
  > As I said at the beginning; just trying to set the record straight.
  >
  > Cheers, Keith.
  >
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: fot-bounces+keithfiles=btinternet.com at autox.team.net
  > [mailto:fot-bounces+keithfiles=btinternet.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of
  > Kas Kastner
  > Sent: 03 October 2007 04:12
  > To: Mike Munson; JWoesvra at aol.com; jaxonracing at yahoo.com;
  > ehusmann53 at yahoo.com; N197TR4 at cs.com; emanteno at comcast.net;
  > sgroh1 at comcast.net; westerneagleracing at worldnet.att.net;
fot at autox.team.net
  > Subject: Re: [Fot] KASTNER CUP CHALLENGE - WATKINS GLEN 2008
  >
  > Yes, you have a point.  The guys from England are a great group but they
do
  > not recognize our view and recognition of "Vintage".
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "Mike Munson" <fasttrs at mindspring.com>
  > To: <JWoesvra at aol.com>; <jaxonracing at yahoo.com>; <ehusmann53 at yahoo.com>;
  > <N197TR4 at cs.com>; <emanteno at comcast.net>; <sgroh1 at comcast.net>;
  > <westerneagleracing at worldnet.att.net>; <fot at autox.team.net>
  > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:46 PM
  > Subject: Re: [Fot] KASTNER CUP CHALLENGE - WATKINS GLEN 2008
  >
  >
  > > Well I guess that will leave me and a few others out. I don't quite
  > > understand it however. The car that won in Oklahoma ran with 45 mm
fuel
  > > injection where I have to run Webers with 28 mm chokes. It also weighs
  > > 1900
  > > pounds where my car has to weigh 2190.
  > > I am not complaining, just pointing out the fact that some vintage
  > > organizations throughout the country allow you to prepare the car to a
  > > higher level than what SCCA does.
  > >
  > > The cars from England are another story altogether.
  > >
  > > Mike Munson
  > >
  > >
  > > Subject: Re: [Fot] KASTNER CUP CHALLENGE - WATKINS GLEN 2008
  > >
  > > In a message dated 10/2/2007 5:57:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
  > > jaxonracing at yahoo.com writes:
  > >
  > > Can  currently classified SCCA cars run in this event?  Is there a
class
  > > within the run group that will support my car?  My spit is prepared
and
  > > run
  > >
  > > under current SCCA regulations.
  > >
  > >
  > > We will only be accepting cars that are prepared to the accepted
vintage
  > > standards.
  > >
  > > The only exceptions might be SCCA cars that have won a national
  > > championship
  > > and are still in the configuration that they were in at that  time.
  > >
  > > Jack Woehrle
  > > SVRA Technical Director
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