[Fot] KASTNER CUP CHALLENGE - WATKINS GLEN 2008
Keith Files
keithfiles at btinternet.com
Sun Oct 14 11:10:39 MDT 2007
Hi Geoff,
Thanks for the info. I was hoping that, as part of my retirement in a 5
years time, to do a bit of a tour with the TR6 and Oz was on my list of
places to visit especially Phillip Island and Bathurst. I guess that I will
need to re-consider; would my US TR4 built to the US vintage regulations be
acceptable?
Cheers, Keith.
-----Original Message-----
From: Geoffrey Byrne [mailto:gkbyrne at optushome.com.au]
Sent: 09 October 2007 00:18
To: Keith Files; 'Kas Kastner'; 'Mike Munson'; JWoesvra at aol.com;
jaxonracing at yahoo.com; ehusmann53 at yahoo.com; N197TR4 at cs.com;
emanteno at comcast.net; sgroh1 at comcast.net;
westerneagleracing at worldnet.att.net; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] KASTNER CUP CHALLENGE - WATKINS GLEN 2008
Friends
Just to add an international perspective for interest , Keiths car would
not get an Historic Log Book in Australia . Our Historic cars have to be OEM
with very little mods ie plus one inch wider wheels
Geoff Byrne
TR6 racer down under
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Files" <keithfiles at btinternet.com>
To: "'Kas Kastner'" <kaskas at cox.net>; "'Mike Munson'"
<fasttrs at mindspring.com>; <JWoesvra at aol.com>; <jaxonracing at yahoo.com>;
<ehusmann53 at yahoo.com>; <N197TR4 at cs.com>; <emanteno at comcast.net>;
<sgroh1 at comcast.net>; <westerneagleracing at worldnet.att.net>;
<fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] KASTNER CUP CHALLENGE - WATKINS GLEN 2008
> HI everybody,
>
> Just got back from yet another business trip and have just picked up on
the
> cars for the Glen eligibility debate. I don't intend to voice an opinion
> either way but I would like to let you all know what is in my UK TR6
when
> compared to yours; hopefully this might set the record straight about
the
> Brit cars. For those of you who know these things my modified Red/Silver
TR6
> placed 4th overall at M-O in the hands of Jon wood in 2002 and won
outright
> at VIR in 2004.
>
> My TR6 has:
>
> Engine: Triumph TR6 block with a full steel engine running Omega +60
pistons
> (makes it around 2600 cc), has Carrillo rods, a billet crank, steel
caps,
> Cambridge Motorsports steel flywheel, Classic RaceCraft cam, triple 45
DCOE
> Webbers, roller rockers, ported and flowed head and large valves,
luminiton
> ignition 200bhp - nothing trick just built by Jon Wood of Classic
RaceCraft
> for the princely sum of c $20k.
>
> Gearbox: Triumph Stag casing (for strength), dog gears, no overdrive,
> Quartermaster clutch.
>
> Diff: Triumph diff with Salisbury LSD and 3.9:1 CWP (or 4.1:1 depending
on
> circuit).
>
> Suspension: Adjustable koni shocks all round (rear lever arms where
> terrible), up rated springs and poly bushes.
>
> Brakes: Standard rear drums, up rated Willwood ventilated rotors and 4
pot
> callipers (these do make a big difference).
>
> Body: All original steel panels except for GRP hood, trunk lid, drivers
door
> and all 4 wings and hardtop - all up weight is 930 kgs which is only
94kgs
> less than a standard road car.
>
> Wheels: 6" Compomotive running Yokohama A008R 205/60/15 tyres.
>
> The winning TR5 at M-O was the same specification as it was also built
by
> Jon Wood; it is lighter than mine at around 875kgs that's all.
>
> The TR8s are different as they run up to 4.0 litres and around 300bhb as
> well as GRP panels; had Vern Brannon and Jon Wood not tangled at M-O
then
> Vern would have won in his modified TR8 (slicks, no weight and 400+ bhp)
by
> a country mile.
>
> At VIR we were the only wet race; it rained as we gridded up and being a
> Brit that was to my advantage - we get loads of practice in the wet over
> here :-) - and I took a narrow victory from 2 rather special and well
> driven spitfires.
>
> As you can see there is no big secret to this car; it will be coming
over in
> 2012 for the 60th anniversary race where it will be driven by my son; I
am
> going to take him on in my US TR4 and, hopefully, apply experience over
> youth and beat him. I will be happy to show this car to any of you guys
just
> to show you that it is not that special and that all of the parts are
> available to the 6 cylinder runners over in the US (and I know there are
> some very rapid 6 cylinder cars over there already).
>
> As I said at the beginning; just trying to set the record straight.
>
> Cheers, Keith.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces+keithfiles=btinternet.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:fot-bounces+keithfiles=btinternet.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of
> Kas Kastner
> Sent: 03 October 2007 04:12
> To: Mike Munson; JWoesvra at aol.com; jaxonracing at yahoo.com;
> ehusmann53 at yahoo.com; N197TR4 at cs.com; emanteno at comcast.net;
> sgroh1 at comcast.net; westerneagleracing at worldnet.att.net;
fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] KASTNER CUP CHALLENGE - WATKINS GLEN 2008
>
> Yes, you have a point. The guys from England are a great group but they
do
> not recognize our view and recognition of "Vintage".
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Munson" <fasttrs at mindspring.com>
> To: <JWoesvra at aol.com>; <jaxonracing at yahoo.com>; <ehusmann53 at yahoo.com>;
> <N197TR4 at cs.com>; <emanteno at comcast.net>; <sgroh1 at comcast.net>;
> <westerneagleracing at worldnet.att.net>; <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Fot] KASTNER CUP CHALLENGE - WATKINS GLEN 2008
>
>
> > Well I guess that will leave me and a few others out. I don't quite
> > understand it however. The car that won in Oklahoma ran with 45 mm
fuel
> > injection where I have to run Webers with 28 mm chokes. It also weighs
> > 1900
> > pounds where my car has to weigh 2190.
> > I am not complaining, just pointing out the fact that some vintage
> > organizations throughout the country allow you to prepare the car to a
> > higher level than what SCCA does.
> >
> > The cars from England are another story altogether.
> >
> > Mike Munson
> >
> >
> > Subject: Re: [Fot] KASTNER CUP CHALLENGE - WATKINS GLEN 2008
> >
> > In a message dated 10/2/2007 5:57:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > jaxonracing at yahoo.com writes:
> >
> > Can currently classified SCCA cars run in this event? Is there a
class
> > within the run group that will support my car? My spit is prepared
and
> > run
> >
> > under current SCCA regulations.
> >
> >
> > We will only be accepting cars that are prepared to the accepted
vintage
> > standards.
> >
> > The only exceptions might be SCCA cars that have won a national
> > championship
> > and are still in the configuration that they were in at that time.
> >
> > Jack Woehrle
> > SVRA Technical Director
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