[Fot] oil, oil, oil

Norlin Engineering norlinengineering at comcast.net
Tue Mar 27 17:52:13 MDT 2007


In Portland, Oregon, I was able to get the same Valvoline (VV851) from
Baxter Auto Parts.  They had it in the warehouse, not on the shelf, so I was
able to get it the same day as I ordered it.  Price was $5.09 a quart and
the description on the receipt is 20W50 RACE NOT STREET.  Baxter has a store
very close to Portland Intl Raceway, so this is convienent for us racer
types.

Jim Norlin

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Subject: Re: [Fot] oil, oil, oil


I ordered Valvoline 20W50 Racing Conventional (not street legal) Motor Oil,
(code
VV851) on Amazon.com. I ordered 2 cases thinking I was getting 12 count
cases and a really good price. The case count is only 6 so I paid $6.91 a
quart. The box is cool though, says boldly "Not street Legal".


Bob Kramer
rkramer3 at austin.rr.com
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Subject: [Fot] oil, oil, oil


> Everyone,
>
> OK, I have been doing a lot of research on this very important oil
> issue.
>
> We all need it, so I guess this is about one of the most critical
> questions
> for our engines.
>
> As you know, the oil companies have drastically cut-back on the ZDDP
> (mostly
> Zinc & Phosphrous) anti-wear additives found in modern motor oils.
>
> The general consensus of opinion seems to be that just about anything
> rated
> 'SM' does NOT have sufficient additives for our flat-tappet engines.
>
> SAE20W50 is the recommended viscosity for the majority of our Triumph
> engines.
>
> It seems that we have little in the way of choice:
>
> Three companies products keep coming up:
>
> A) Amsoil
>
> B) Redline
>
> C) Valvoline
>
> These companies still produce some high quality, non-SM products.
>
> such as:
>
> A) Amsoil 20W50 Series 2000 Synthetic Racing Oil, (code TRO)
>
> B) Redline 20W50 High Performance Synthetic Motor Oil.
>
> C) Valvoline 20W50 Racing Synthetic (not street legal) Motor Oil,
> (code
> VV855)
>
> C2) Valvoline 20W50 Racing Conventional (not street legal) Motor Oil,
> (code
> VV851)
>
> So far as I can see, these oils are not widely advertised, nor are
> they commonly available 'off the shelf' in your friendly motor
> factors.
>
> They may be ordered directly from the manufacturers, and the costs of
> the synthetics seem to be roughly similar at just under $10/quart, or
> $40/gallon.
>
> Amsoil being distributed the way it is, multi-level etc, seems to
> thrive
> on
> hype, but being the cynical chap that I am, I believe about 10% off it.
>
> Do any of you fine fellows have any opinions on the
> quality/capability/worth
> of any of these products?
>
> Do tell.
>
> Best Regards to all
>
> Leon F Guyot
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