[Fot] low cost rods / pistons

[Marx Christian tr4-racing]

I am one of those Jack has mentioned to have V8 rods.
Jack had all the good ideas and was a very great help to get the parts over to
Europe. So you're in the best hands for this project.

I use the 5.4L Ford rods in combination with Wiseco forged pistons.
The rods are slightly lighter than Carrillos because the big end is narrow
compared to a TR 4 rod.

When using Wiseco pistons it is a good idea to go with more piston to wall
clearance...
I use 0.0055" clearance after testing it out.

Chris


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack W. Drews" <vinttr4 at geneseo.net>
To: <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 3:05 PM
Subject: [Fot] low cost rods / pistons


> First off, a huge "Thank You!" to Mordy and Paul for all their work
> in getting a major crank manufacturer to agree to make our cranks. To
> get to this point takes lots of hours, and this is a really huge
> service to the Triumph community. Several FOT listers need cranks for
> next year, and the likelihood of being able to get them in time from
> Moldex is nil. Furthermore, the ability to specify big end journal
> width opens up the possibility of big dollar savings and superb
> bearing choices for us TR racers.
>
> I have looked at the idea of low cost high production rods for about
> six years. The roadblock was always the dimensions of available rods.
> As of today, though, I know of two listers who have built engines
> using these ideas of Chevy and Ford rods who have saved a big chunk
> of change. The main advantage is that current price of four TR4 rods
> from Carillo is $1029. By contrast, four really good rods, made for
> 500 hp Chevies, can be had for about $300.
>
> I MIGHT be interested in pulling together a package of rods and
> pistons that would save us all money and that might have some
> technical advantages. However, from personal experience at developing
> and selling parts (Southwick axles, aluminum hubs, front spindle
> kits, light ring gears, crank scrapers, yada yada), my experience is
> that it takes LOTS of time in emails, phone calls, letters, boxing,
> shipping arrangements, billing, etc. The complicating aspect of this
> particular project is that it will involve several vendors.
>
> One option open to everybody is to do their own engineering and
> negotiating. That takes lots of time and might or might or might not
> yield the lowest price for each individual. The other option is to
> put together a package with reasonable choices and one person
> coordinate. I am willing to do that, but only if I can add a modest
> profit to pay for my time, at a rate a little higher than minimum wage.
>
> Soooo.....here's what I will do. I will write up what I know to this
> point and put it on Tony's web site shortly. I'll let you know when
> it is there, which should be in a day or two. I will collect ideas
> from listers regarding options for the kit. I will explore pricing
> with several vendors. Then I'll give you the results and make a proposal.
>
> Initially I will investigate using Scat rods and Wiseco pistons.
>
> So -- first step -- anyone who has useful input on potential
> dimensions, potential specific rods, please give them to me quickly.
>
>
> uncle jack
>
>
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