<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Registering a car as an historic vehicle in California comes with a usage limitation; car shows and special events only. I don't know about other states. <div><br></div><div><h3 style="color: var(--c-dark-blue); font-family: var(--font-heading); box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 1.36; margin: 0px 0px 1rem; font-size: var(--font-size-medium); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;">21.120 Historical Vehicle and Horseless Carriage License Plates</h3><h3 class="wp-block-heading" style="color: var(--c-dark-blue); font-family: var(--font-heading); box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 1.36; margin: 0px 0px 1rem; font-size: var(--font-size-medium); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;">Chapter 21 Special License Plates<br style="box-sizing: border-box;"></h3><h3 class="wp-block-heading" style="color: var(--c-dark-blue); font-family: var(--font-heading); box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 1.36; margin: 0px 0px 1rem; font-size: var(--font-size-medium); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"><em style="box-sizing: border-box;">21.120 Historical Vehicle and Horseless Carriage License Plates (CVC §5004)</em></h3><p style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-bottom: var(--spacing-unit-base); font-family: tt-commons, sans-serif; font-size: var(--font-size-small); line-height: 1.35; margin-top: 0px; position: relative; caret-color: rgb(93, 108, 122); color: rgb(93, 108, 122); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;">Permanent special identification plates may be issued to vehicles of historic value and interest. Vehicles assigned Horseless Carriage or Historical Vehicle License Plates are limited to operation or movement over the highway primarily for the purpose of historical exhibition or other similar, noncommercial purposes, such as parades or historic vehicle club activities, and are subject to a fixed annual vehicle license fee (VLF) of $2. Historical Vehicle and Horseless Carriage License Plates are not available as personalized plates.(R&TC §10753.5)</p><p style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-bottom: var(--spacing-unit-base); font-family: tt-commons, sans-serif; font-size: var(--font-size-small); line-height: 1.35; margin-top: 0px; position: relative; caret-color: rgb(93, 108, 122); color: rgb(93, 108, 122); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box; color: var(--c-dark-blue);">Horseless Carriage License Plates</span> are issued to two types of motor vehicles:</p><ul style="font-size: 16px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: tt-commons, sans-serif; padding: 0px; margin-bottom: calc(var(--spacing-unit-base)*2); margin-left: calc(var(--spacing-unit-base)*2); caret-color: rgb(93, 108, 122); color: rgb(93, 108, 122); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"><li style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: var(--font-size-small);">With an engine size of 16 or more cylinders manufactured prior to 1965.</li><li style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: var(--font-size-small); padding-top: var(--spacing-unit-15);">Manufactured in 1922 or before.</li></ul><p style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-bottom: var(--spacing-unit-base); font-family: tt-commons, sans-serif; font-size: var(--font-size-small); line-height: 1.35; margin-top: 0px; position: relative; caret-color: rgb(93, 108, 122); color: rgb(93, 108, 122); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box; color: var(--c-dark-blue);">Historical Vehicle License Plates</span> are issued to motor vehicles or trailers that are:</p><ul style="font-size: 16px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: tt-commons, sans-serif; padding: 0px; margin-bottom: calc(var(--spacing-unit-base)*2); margin-left: calc(var(--spacing-unit-base)*2); caret-color: rgb(93, 108, 122); color: rgb(93, 108, 122); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"><li style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: var(--font-size-small);">Manufactured after 1922.</li><li style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: var(--font-size-small); padding-top: var(--spacing-unit-15);">At least 25 years old.</li><li style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: var(--font-size-small); padding-top: var(--spacing-unit-15);">Of historic interest.</li></ul><br><div dir="ltr">Gary McCormick </div><div dir="ltr">’70 2000 SRL311-13291</div><div dir="ltr">San José, CA</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><blockquote type="cite">On Sep 24, 2023, at 5:34 PM, dave northrup via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Unless I’m mistaken, California is unique in regulating antique cars, at least 25 years old. Are there any others? Cars specifically registered as, and treated as an antique. As opposed to an old car you still drive to work.
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Roadsters] '70 2000 on BAT<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’m with Pat (removable night time LED conspicuity lamp on top-center of roll hoop), and apparently, California vehicle traffic law.<o:p></o:p></p>
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