From roadster at san.rr.com  Fri May  1 09:57:04 2020
From: roadster at san.rr.com (Dan Heinze)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2020 08:57:04 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Alvin's Hardtop
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Alvin? thanks.  I guess I should have searched 311s first.  From your link I found some others about the hardtops.  Thanks also for all the pics you post.  Always an encouragement.

-Dan

 

From: Alvin Gogineni [mailto:alvingogi at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 11:54 AM
To: Dan Heinze
Cc: datsun-roadsters
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Alvin's Hardtop

 

Hi Dan,

It was over 10 years ago, but there is a build thread here:  https://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3 <https://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7220&start=60> &t=7220&start=60

It is a Thompson Fiberglass Products hardtop, nothing custom, windows and profile all standard.

 

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 11:19 AM Dan Heinze via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:

Alvin? as I remember you once mentioned on this list that the folk at Z car garage did your roadster hardtop.  Do you have pics of the process or any details on what they did?

My 68 Solex Roadster is almost ready for paint and I would like to also update my port hole window hard top.

Are the side windows behind the door custom cutouts?  Looks like the top was built up around the rear window???  Any tips/info will be appreciated.

Recent work on my roadster includes full engine rebuild with all parts matched and balanced (85K original miles), NOS late model Solex (replaced the original old style Solex), Evans waterless coolant, new heater core ? valve ? cables, seats stripped to metal and rebuilt/reupholstered, all new interior carpet and panels?, new wheel bearings and suspension wear parts all around, new calipers and rear cylinders, new lines, new shoes/pads, new rotors, new comp front springs and sway bar, new fiberglass rear springs, new Bilstein adjustable shocks, chassis coated, body work done, etc.  Hope to get to painting soon?.

Being in San Diego, I never use a top, but would like to make it look nice in case I ever do.

Thanks / Dan

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From alvingogi at gmail.com  Fri May  1 19:58:55 2020
From: alvingogi at gmail.com (Alvin Gogineni)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2020 18:58:55 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Dyno Tuning Eric's SR20-Powered Roadster
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#FairladyFriday

We dyno tuned Eric Straw's magnificent 1969 Datsun Roadster! He visited Z
Car Garage all the way from Oregon to have Rob tune the SR20VE-T using a
Haltech 1500 Elite. The results: 425hp/331tq on 92 octane, 491hp/393tq at
the wheels on 100 octane.
Even more impressive are Eric's design and fabrication of the chassis to
put all that power to ground from the 6-speed CD009 transmission to the
Ford 9' with Watts-linkage. Simply amazing. Enjoy The Boost! Read the full
story with dyno and driving videos on the blog:

https://www.zcarblog.com/2020/05/01/performance/tuning-erics-straws-sr20-powered-datsun-roadster.html

Full video of dyno passes and test drives:
https://youtu.be/qd3E1d_TaS0
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From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Fri May  1 20:10:15 2020
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2020 21:10:15 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Dyno Tuning Eric's SR20-Powered Roadster
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Holy Crap on a Cracker! ?

On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 9:02 PM Alvin Gogineni via Datsun-roadsters <
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:

> #FairladyFriday
>
> We dyno tuned Eric Straw's magnificent 1969 Datsun Roadster! He visited Z
> Car Garage all the way from Oregon to have Rob tune the SR20VE-T using a
> Haltech 1500 Elite. The results: 425hp/331tq on 92 octane, 491hp/393tq at
> the wheels on 100 octane.
> Even more impressive are Eric's design and fabrication of the chassis to
> put all that power to ground from the 6-speed CD009 transmission to the
> Ford 9' with Watts-linkage. Simply amazing. Enjoy The Boost! Read the full
> story with dyno and driving videos on the blog:
>
>
> https://www.zcarblog.com/2020/05/01/performance/tuning-erics-straws-sr20-powered-datsun-roadster.html
>
> Full video of dyno passes and test drives:
> https://youtu.be/qd3E1d_TaS0
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From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Sun May  3 05:44:44 2020
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 04:44:44 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Tarted-up low-window Fairlady Roadster
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https://carnutengineer.tumblr.com/post/617085521711251456


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From tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com  Sun May  3 06:52:35 2020
From: tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com (Tim .)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 12:52:35 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Tarted-up low-window Fairlady Roadster
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References: <37A3B0E0-85E0-46A3-A462-2C4E223D2DFF.ref@sbcglobal.net>,
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can't view unless one signs in the tubmblr


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Subject: [Roadsters] Tarted-up low-window Fairlady Roadster

https://carnutengineer.tumblr.com/post/617085521711251456


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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sun May  3 09:42:12 2020
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete)
Date: Sun, 03 May 2020 08:42:12 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Tarted-up low-window Fairlady Roadster
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From alvingogi at gmail.com  Sun May  3 13:47:23 2020
From: alvingogi at gmail.com (Alvin Gogineni)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 12:47:23 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Tarted-up low-window Fairlady Roadster
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Tumblr? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

There's a full build thread on 311s.org with a deep dive into the custom
touches:
https://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=12927&start=105

A video feature as well:
https://youtu.be/XSjnQFtAcUI

On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 4:47 AM Gary McCormick via Datsun-roadsters <
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:

> https://carnutengineer.tumblr.com/post/617085521711251456
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>
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From tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com  Sun May  3 18:38:18 2020
From: tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com (Tim .)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 00:38:18 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Tarted-up low-window Fairlady Roadster
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b33n th3r3 s33n this?
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Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2020 10:42 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Tarted-up low-window Fairlady Roadster

Pictures attached.

Not a fan of the seats (as best I can see them) nor the mini windshield, but, otherwise, it looks like some quality work.

I'd drive it.

Pete

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can't view unless one signs in the tubmblr


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https://carnutengineer.tumblr.com/post/617085521711251456


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From alvingogi at gmail.com  Mon May  4 21:07:28 2020
From: alvingogi at gmail.com (Alvin Gogineni)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 20:07:28 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] May The Fourth Be With You!
Message-ID: <CALmuZ6BauafqOkpBbbuonDuaid4GmVxv6+YWw1DjYKB=xp14ow@mail.gmail.com>

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From ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com  Mon May  4 22:07:16 2020
From: ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com (Stan Wilkins)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 04:07:16 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] May The Fourth Be With You!
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Your family I assume; nice. Nice cars too.
It's time here in the frozen north of Arizona to pull the roadster out from short term storage, check it over and go for a ride down state route 89A to Sedona. Fun road and the roadster hasn't seen it yet. Also thinking of a quick trip to Williams to get chunk of banana cream pie from Pine Country Restaurant. I'd have to eat it in the car but they are doing curb side take out.

Stan, doing Thunderbird assembly and other car operations. Gotta stay busy somehow.

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From RWM at RWMann.com  Sat May  9 10:02:20 2020
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 12:02:20 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel indication issues
Message-ID: <2C8B271A-5C04-4127-B93B-1AF6394E8B44@RWMann.com>

This has been discussed before, but here are the indications:

Fuel gauge does not budge off empty 

Fuel sender resistance shows 34 ohms as installed, with tank less than half full

Fuel sender resistance when removed varies fairly linearly from 47 ohms (bottom) to near zero ohms (near top), then open circuit when the arm forces the wiper off the rheostat windings

Fuel harness is delivering 7.6 volts, measured with the yellow and black connectors removed

Shorting the fuel harness to itself (yellow to black) does not change the fuel gauge indication

Ammeter works, temperature gauge works

Ideas? Dash harness connector?

Thanks.

- Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex



From patintexas at icloud.com  Sat May  9 11:18:52 2020
From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 12:18:52 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel indication issues
In-Reply-To: <2C8B271A-5C04-4127-B93B-1AF6394E8B44@RWMann.com>
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Hook everything back up except the sender. Turn on the key & measure for voltage @ the sender wires to ground. One should show voltage & the other should be grounded. (Not home now to get colors) ground the one with voltage. If the gauge still sits on empty you have a bad gauge. If there is no voltage it could be a bad connection or a bad gauge. Let me know what y?all find & I?ll walk you through more diagnostics. 

Peace,
Pat


Pat Horne 
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> On May 9, 2020, at 11:02 AM, RWM via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 

?This has been discussed before, but here are the indications:

Fuel gauge does not budge off empty 

Fuel sender resistance shows 34 ohms as installed, with tank less than half full

Fuel sender resistance when removed varies fairly linearly from 47 ohms (bottom) to near zero ohms (near top), then open circuit when the arm forces the wiper off the rheostat windings

Fuel harness is delivering 7.6 volts, measured with the yellow and black connectors removed

Shorting the fuel harness to itself (yellow to black) does not change the fuel gauge indication

Ammeter works, temperature gauge works

Ideas? Dash harness connector?

Thanks.

- Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex


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From bmurphy15 at sc.rr.com  Sat May  9 12:20:39 2020
From: bmurphy15 at sc.rr.com (Barney Murphy)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 14:20:39 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Gear reduction starter
Message-ID: <87B31DE8-9B14-4A37-A021-0B6CC9CD7DF5@sc.rr.com>

Hey folks. 

Just installed a gear reduction starter from Rallye and may I say...what a world of difference! Quick, strong rotation. Should've done this a long time ago!

Be safe and stay healthy. 
Barney, Columbia, SC. 
1969 2000

From RWM at RWMann.com  Sat May  9 14:09:41 2020
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 16:09:41 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel indication issues
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Pat,

With ignition switch in running position

Yellow wire to chassis is 7.6 volts, same as to black wire

Yellow wire to ground, no gauge deflection 

Thanks

- Bob


> On May 9, 2020, at 13:19, Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Hook everything back up except the sender. Turn on the key & measure for voltage @ the sender wires to ground. One should show voltage & the other should be grounded. (Not home now to get colors) ground the one with voltage. If the gauge still sits on empty you have a bad gauge. If there is no voltage it could be a bad connection or a bad gauge. Let me know what y?all find & I?ll walk you through more diagnostics. 
> 
> Peace,
> Pat
> 
> 
> Pat Horne 
> We support Habitat for Humanity
> 
> 
>> On May 9, 2020, at 11:02 AM, RWM via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
> 
> ?This has been discussed before, but here are the indications:
> 
> Fuel gauge does not budge off empty 
> 
> Fuel sender resistance shows 34 ohms as installed, with tank less than half full
> 
> Fuel sender resistance when removed varies fairly linearly from 47 ohms (bottom) to near zero ohms (near top), then open circuit when the arm forces the wiper off the rheostat windings
> 
> Fuel harness is delivering 7.6 volts, measured with the yellow and black connectors removed
> 
> Shorting the fuel harness to itself (yellow to black) does not change the fuel gauge indication
> 
> Ammeter works, temperature gauge works
> 
> Ideas? Dash harness connector?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex
> 
> 
> ________________________________________
> 
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From patintexas at icloud.com  Sat May  9 14:53:22 2020
From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 15:53:22 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel indication issues
In-Reply-To: <E6EA36D4-0310-4A95-81CF-07535BCAD187@RWMann.com>
References: <E6EA36D4-0310-4A95-81CF-07535BCAD187@RWMann.com>
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Bob,
That sounds a bit off. The 7.6v on the yellow wire to ground is fine, but the black wire should be zero. 

When you ground the yellow wire to the body, the gauge should go to max. Sounds like you have a bad fuel gauge. Just to be sure you can try grounding the terminal on the gauge that the yellow wire goes to. 

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne 
We support Habitat for Humanity


> On May 9, 2020, at 3:09 PM, RWM <RWM at rwmann.com> wrote:
> 

?Pat,

With ignition switch in running position

Yellow wire to chassis is 7.6 volts, same as to black wire

Yellow wire to ground, no gauge deflection 

Thanks

- Bob


> On May 9, 2020, at 13:19, Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Hook everything back up except the sender. Turn on the key & measure for voltage @ the sender wires to ground. One should show voltage & the other should be grounded. (Not home now to get colors) ground the one with voltage. If the gauge still sits on empty you have a bad gauge. If there is no voltage it could be a bad connection or a bad gauge. Let me know what y?all find & I?ll walk you through more diagnostics. 
> 
> Peace,
> Pat
> 
> 
> Pat Horne 
> We support Habitat for Humanity
> 
> 
>>> On May 9, 2020, at 11:02 AM, RWM via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
> 
> ?This has been discussed before, but here are the indications:
> 
> Fuel gauge does not budge off empty 
> 
> Fuel sender resistance shows 34 ohms as installed, with tank less than half full
> 
> Fuel sender resistance when removed varies fairly linearly from 47 ohms (bottom) to near zero ohms (near top), then open circuit when the arm forces the wiper off the rheostat windings
> 
> Fuel harness is delivering 7.6 volts, measured with the yellow and black connectors removed
> 
> Shorting the fuel harness to itself (yellow to black) does not change the fuel gauge indication
> 
> Ammeter works, temperature gauge works
> 
> Ideas? Dash harness connector?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex
> 
> 
> ________________________________________
> 
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> 
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From RWM at RWMann.com  Sat May  9 14:57:20 2020
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 16:57:20 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel indication issues
In-Reply-To: <EF8C9CB9-84B0-4A22-8162-99B45C4CCDC5@icloud.com>
References: <EF8C9CB9-84B0-4A22-8162-99B45C4CCDC5@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <F3D2D163-DE4D-46A4-AEDA-A859C67953C8@RWMann.com>

Pat,

The black wire is zero (ground).

Guess I'll try to work my fingers up behind the gauge and check for continuity.

Thanks.

- Bob



> On May 9, 2020, at 16:53, Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Bob,
> That sounds a bit off. The 7.6v on the yellow wire to ground is fine, but the black wire should be zero. 
> 
> When you ground the yellow wire to the body, the gauge should go to max. Sounds like you have a bad fuel gauge. Just to be sure you can try grounding the terminal on the gauge that the yellow wire goes to. 
> 
> Peace,
> Pat
> 
> Pat Horne 
> We support Habitat for Humanity
> 
> 
>> On May 9, 2020, at 3:09 PM, RWM <RWM at rwmann.com> wrote:
>> 
> 
> ?Pat,
> 
> With ignition switch in running position
> 
> Yellow wire to chassis is 7.6 volts, same as to black wire
> 
> Yellow wire to ground, no gauge deflection 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> - Bob
> 
> 
>> On May 9, 2020, at 13:19, Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hook everything back up except the sender. Turn on the key & measure for voltage @ the sender wires to ground. One should show voltage & the other should be grounded. (Not home now to get colors) ground the one with voltage. If the gauge still sits on empty you have a bad gauge. If there is no voltage it could be a bad connection or a bad gauge. Let me know what y?all find & I?ll walk you through more diagnostics. 
>> 
>> Peace,
>> Pat
>> 
>> 
>> Pat Horne 
>> We support Habitat for Humanity
>> 
>> 
>>>>> On May 9, 2020, at 11:02 AM, RWM via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> ?This has been discussed before, but here are the indications:
>> 
>> Fuel gauge does not budge off empty 
>> 
>> Fuel sender resistance shows 34 ohms as installed, with tank less than half full
>> 
>> Fuel sender resistance when removed varies fairly linearly from 47 ohms (bottom) to near zero ohms (near top), then open circuit when the arm forces the wiper off the rheostat windings
>> 
>> Fuel harness is delivering 7.6 volts, measured with the yellow and black connectors removed
>> 
>> Shorting the fuel harness to itself (yellow to black) does not change the fuel gauge indication
>> 
>> Ammeter works, temperature gauge works
>> 
>> Ideas? Dash harness connector?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________________
>> 
>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>> 
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/datsun-roadsters http://autox.team.net/archive
>> 
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>> 
>> 
> 


From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Sat May  9 15:23:11 2020
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 17:23:11 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Gear reduction starter
In-Reply-To: <87B31DE8-9B14-4A37-A021-0B6CC9CD7DF5@sc.rr.com>
References: <87B31DE8-9B14-4A37-A021-0B6CC9CD7DF5@sc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEv3GDc7evLp-4qCXo6t6iyosOZXbrd5Dm-Hfo1vY46Wqw@mail.gmail.com>

  At Sloan Racing, we used gear reduction starters on both 1600s.  Lighter
& stronger than even the 2000's U20 starter.  I probably shouldn't mention
it, but I installed on in my '73 MGB GT when the stock one failed.  Bought
all 3 at TSI Imports
http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com/gearreductionstarters.html .  Call Ted
and tell him Paul sent you, although I'm not sure if he'll laugh, .... or
just hang up!  :-)

Paul
Ohio

On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 2:23 PM Barney Murphy via Datsun-roadsters <
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Hey folks.
>
> Just installed a gear reduction starter from Rallye and may I say...what a
> world of difference! Quick, strong rotation. Should've done this a long
> time ago!
>
> Be safe and stay healthy.
> Barney, Columbia, SC.
> 1969 2000
> ________________________________________
>
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>
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From RWM at RWMann.com  Sat May  9 15:32:12 2020
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 17:32:12 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Gear reduction starter
In-Reply-To: <CAFEMhEv3GDc7evLp-4qCXo6t6iyosOZXbrd5Dm-Hfo1vY46Wqw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFEMhEv3GDc7evLp-4qCXo6t6iyosOZXbrd5Dm-Hfo1vY46Wqw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <23E89A96-533A-4750-9377-A667383363D0@RWMann.com>

Did the TSI geared starter swap here years ago and it does make a huge difference.

Significantly reduces cranking current, motors the engine better, and starts quicker.

- Bob Mann


> On May 9, 2020, at 17:26, Paul Kort via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
>   At Sloan Racing, we used gear reduction starters on both 1600s.  Lighter & stronger than even the 2000's U20 starter.  I probably shouldn't mention it, but I installed on in my '73 MGB GT when the stock one failed.  Bought all 3 at TSI Imports http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com/gearreductionstarters.html .  Call Ted and tell him Paul sent you, although I'm not sure if he'll laugh, .... or just hang up!  :-)
> 
> Paul
> Ohio
> 
>> On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 2:23 PM Barney Murphy via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> Hey folks. 
>> 
>> Just installed a gear reduction starter from Rallye and may I say...what a world of difference! Quick, strong rotation. Should've done this a long time ago!
>> 
>> Be safe and stay healthy. 
>> Barney, Columbia, SC. 
>> 1969 2000
>> ________________________________________
>> 
>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>> 
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/datsun-roadsters http://autox.team.net/archive
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>> 
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> 
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> 
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From al.gottlieb at verizon.net  Sat May  9 17:35:01 2020
From: al.gottlieb at verizon.net (Al Gottlieb)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 16:35:01 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Mary Drobny 68 Datsun Roadster
In-Reply-To: <mailman.18524.1589059934.2964.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.18524.1589059934.2964.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <67A92025-9F49-4576-9A82-A24080CCD2C8@verizon.net>


The new AAA Westways magazine page 10 features a full page picture and info on Mary?s roadster that she has owned for over four decades. 


Sent from my iPhone

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>   3. Re: Fuel indication issues (Pat Horne)
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>   5. Re: Gear reduction starter (Paul Kort)
>   6. Re: Gear reduction starter (RWM)
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 14:20:39 -0400
> From: Barney Murphy <bmurphy15 at sc.rr.com>
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] Gear reduction starter
> Message-ID: <87B31DE8-9B14-4A37-A021-0B6CC9CD7DF5 at sc.rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Hey folks. 
> 
> Just installed a gear reduction starter from Rallye and may I say...what a world of difference! Quick, strong rotation. Should've done this a long time ago!
> 
> Be safe and stay healthy. 
> Barney, Columbia, SC. 
> 1969 2000
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 16:09:41 -0400
> From: RWM <RWM at RWMann.com>
> To: Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com>
> Cc: Datsun List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel indication issues
> Message-ID: <E6EA36D4-0310-4A95-81CF-07535BCAD187 at RWMann.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> Pat,
> 
> With ignition switch in running position
> 
> Yellow wire to chassis is 7.6 volts, same as to black wire
> 
> Yellow wire to ground, no gauge deflection 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> - Bob
> 
> 
>> On May 9, 2020, at 13:19, Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hook everything back up except the sender. Turn on the key & measure for voltage @ the sender wires to ground. One should show voltage & the other should be grounded. (Not home now to get colors) ground the one with voltage. If the gauge still sits on empty you have a bad gauge. If there is no voltage it could be a bad connection or a bad gauge. Let me know what y?all find & I?ll walk you through more diagnostics. 
>> 
>> Peace,
>> Pat
>> 
>> 
>> Pat Horne 
>> We support Habitat for Humanity
>> 
>> 
>>>> On May 9, 2020, at 11:02 AM, RWM via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> ?This has been discussed before, but here are the indications:
>> 
>> Fuel gauge does not budge off empty 
>> 
>> Fuel sender resistance shows 34 ohms as installed, with tank less than half full
>> 
>> Fuel sender resistance when removed varies fairly linearly from 47 ohms (bottom) to near zero ohms (near top), then open circuit when the arm forces the wiper off the rheostat windings
>> 
>> Fuel harness is delivering 7.6 volts, measured with the yellow and black connectors removed
>> 
>> Shorting the fuel harness to itself (yellow to black) does not change the fuel gauge indication
>> 
>> Ammeter works, temperature gauge works
>> 
>> Ideas? Dash harness connector?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________________
>> 
>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>> 
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/datsun-roadsters http://autox.team.net/archive
>> 
>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/patintexas at icloud.com
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 15:53:22 -0500
> From: Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com>
> To: RWM <RWM at rwmann.com>
> Cc: Datsun List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel indication issues
> Message-ID: <EF8C9CB9-84B0-4A22-8162-99B45C4CCDC5 at icloud.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> Bob,
> That sounds a bit off. The 7.6v on the yellow wire to ground is fine, but the black wire should be zero. 
> 
> When you ground the yellow wire to the body, the gauge should go to max. Sounds like you have a bad fuel gauge. Just to be sure you can try grounding the terminal on the gauge that the yellow wire goes to. 
> 
> Peace,
> Pat
> 
> Pat Horne 
> We support Habitat for Humanity
> 
> 
>> On May 9, 2020, at 3:09 PM, RWM <RWM at rwmann.com> wrote:
>> 
> 
> ?Pat,
> 
> With ignition switch in running position
> 
> Yellow wire to chassis is 7.6 volts, same as to black wire
> 
> Yellow wire to ground, no gauge deflection 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> - Bob
> 
> 
>> On May 9, 2020, at 13:19, Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hook everything back up except the sender. Turn on the key & measure for voltage @ the sender wires to ground. One should show voltage & the other should be grounded. (Not home now to get colors) ground the one with voltage. If the gauge still sits on empty you have a bad gauge. If there is no voltage it could be a bad connection or a bad gauge. Let me know what y?all find & I?ll walk you through more diagnostics. 
>> 
>> Peace,
>> Pat
>> 
>> 
>> Pat Horne 
>> We support Habitat for Humanity
>> 
>> 
>>>>> On May 9, 2020, at 11:02 AM, RWM via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> ?This has been discussed before, but here are the indications:
>> 
>> Fuel gauge does not budge off empty 
>> 
>> Fuel sender resistance shows 34 ohms as installed, with tank less than half full
>> 
>> Fuel sender resistance when removed varies fairly linearly from 47 ohms (bottom) to near zero ohms (near top), then open circuit when the arm forces the wiper off the rheostat windings
>> 
>> Fuel harness is delivering 7.6 volts, measured with the yellow and black connectors removed
>> 
>> Shorting the fuel harness to itself (yellow to black) does not change the fuel gauge indication
>> 
>> Ammeter works, temperature gauge works
>> 
>> Ideas? Dash harness connector?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________________
>> 
>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>> 
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/datsun-roadsters http://autox.team.net/archive
>> 
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>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 16:57:20 -0400
> From: RWM <RWM at RWMann.com>
> To: Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com>
> Cc: Datsun List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel indication issues
> Message-ID: <F3D2D163-DE4D-46A4-AEDA-A859C67953C8 at RWMann.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> Pat,
> 
> The black wire is zero (ground).
> 
> Guess I'll try to work my fingers up behind the gauge and check for continuity.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> - Bob
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 9, 2020, at 16:53, Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Bob,
>> That sounds a bit off. The 7.6v on the yellow wire to ground is fine, but the black wire should be zero. 
>> 
>> When you ground the yellow wire to the body, the gauge should go to max. Sounds like you have a bad fuel gauge. Just to be sure you can try grounding the terminal on the gauge that the yellow wire goes to. 
>> 
>> Peace,
>> Pat
>> 
>> Pat Horne 
>> We support Habitat for Humanity
>> 
>> 
>>>> On May 9, 2020, at 3:09 PM, RWM <RWM at rwmann.com> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> ?Pat,
>> 
>> With ignition switch in running position
>> 
>> Yellow wire to chassis is 7.6 volts, same as to black wire
>> 
>> Yellow wire to ground, no gauge deflection 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> - Bob
>> 
>> 
>>>> On May 9, 2020, at 13:19, Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Hook everything back up except the sender. Turn on the key & measure for voltage @ the sender wires to ground. One should show voltage & the other should be grounded. (Not home now to get colors) ground the one with voltage. If the gauge still sits on empty you have a bad gauge. If there is no voltage it could be a bad connection or a bad gauge. Let me know what y?all find & I?ll walk you through more diagnostics. 
>>> 
>>> Peace,
>>> Pat
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Pat Horne 
>>> We support Habitat for Humanity
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>>> On May 9, 2020, at 11:02 AM, RWM via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> ?This has been discussed before, but here are the indications:
>>> 
>>> Fuel gauge does not budge off empty 
>>> 
>>> Fuel sender resistance shows 34 ohms as installed, with tank less than half full
>>> 
>>> Fuel sender resistance when removed varies fairly linearly from 47 ohms (bottom) to near zero ohms (near top), then open circuit when the arm forces the wiper off the rheostat windings
>>> 
>>> Fuel harness is delivering 7.6 volts, measured with the yellow and black connectors removed
>>> 
>>> Shorting the fuel harness to itself (yellow to black) does not change the fuel gauge indication
>>> 
>>> Ammeter works, temperature gauge works
>>> 
>>> Ideas? Dash harness connector?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ________________________________________
>>> 
>>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>>> 
>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/datsun-roadsters http://autox.team.net/archive
>>> 
>>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/patintexas at icloud.com
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 17:23:11 -0400
> From: Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
> To: Barney Murphy <bmurphy15 at sc.rr.com>
> Cc: Roadster Stuff <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Gear reduction starter
> Message-ID:
>    <CAFEMhEv3GDc7evLp-4qCXo6t6iyosOZXbrd5Dm-Hfo1vY46Wqw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
>  At Sloan Racing, we used gear reduction starters on both 1600s.  Lighter
> & stronger than even the 2000's U20 starter.  I probably shouldn't mention
> it, but I installed on in my '73 MGB GT when the stock one failed.  Bought
> all 3 at TSI Imports
> http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com/gearreductionstarters.html .  Call Ted
> and tell him Paul sent you, although I'm not sure if he'll laugh, .... or
> just hang up!  :-)
> 
> Paul
> Ohio
> 
> On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 2:23 PM Barney Murphy via Datsun-roadsters <
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
>> Hey folks.
>> 
>> Just installed a gear reduction starter from Rallye and may I say...what a
>> world of difference! Quick, strong rotation. Should've done this a long
>> time ago!
>> 
>> Be safe and stay healthy.
>> Barney, Columbia, SC.
>> 1969 2000
>> ________________________________________
>> 
>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>> 
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/datsun-roadsters
>> http://autox.team.net/archive
>> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 17:32:12 -0400
> From: RWM <RWM at RWMann.com>
> To: Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
> Cc: Barney Murphy <bmurphy15 at sc.rr.com>, Roadster Stuff
>    <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Gear reduction starter
> Message-ID: <23E89A96-533A-4750-9377-A667383363D0 at RWMann.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Did the TSI geared starter swap here years ago and it does make a huge difference.
> 
> Significantly reduces cranking current, motors the engine better, and starts quicker.
> 
> - Bob Mann
> 
> 
>> On May 9, 2020, at 17:26, Paul Kort via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>>  At Sloan Racing, we used gear reduction starters on both 1600s.  Lighter & stronger than even the 2000's U20 starter.  I probably shouldn't mention it, but I installed on in my '73 MGB GT when the stock one failed.  Bought all 3 at TSI Imports http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com/gearreductionstarters.html .  Call Ted and tell him Paul sent you, although I'm not sure if he'll laugh, .... or just hang up!  :-)
>> 
>> Paul
>> Ohio
>> 
>>>> On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 2:23 PM Barney Murphy via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> Hey folks. 
>>> 
>>> Just installed a gear reduction starter from Rallye and may I say...what a world of difference! Quick, strong rotation. Should've done this a long time ago!
>>> 
>>> Be safe and stay healthy. 
>>> Barney, Columbia, SC. 
>>> 1969 2000
>>> ________________________________________
>>> 
>>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>>> 
>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/datsun-roadsters http://autox.team.net/archive
>>> 
>>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>> ________________________________________
>> 
>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>> 
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Sun May 10 11:33:59 2020
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2020 12:33:59 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT - Rust Treatment & Paint?
Message-ID: <CAMHhs6ecL=svRiVmUH=k5daaTSOECm3a9=sOBLy3Kgwe2KjpOg@mail.gmail.com>

I'm cleaning up and rebuilding a locally built, wood decked utility
trailer. Typical angle iron/tube frame construction. The original paint is
worn, a lot, and there's considerable surface rust. I took it to the
quarter car wash and cleaned it up as best I could.

I'm not inclined to have the whole thing media blasted so the plan is,
doing a section at a time, to use wire brushes and a detail sander to
remove as much of the loose paint as I can, and then hit that area with
rattle can primer/paint to "seal/convert" the rust I can't get off, then
move to the next section.

Realizing there are products out there that supposedly work like magic,
what actually does a decent job? I'm looking for durability and protection,
not a car show finish.

RD
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From patintexas at icloud.com  Sun May 10 11:44:58 2020
From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2020 12:44:58 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT - Rust Treatment & Paint?
In-Reply-To: <CAMHhs6ecL=svRiVmUH=k5daaTSOECm3a9=sOBLy3Kgwe2KjpOg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMHhs6ecL=svRiVmUH=k5daaTSOECm3a9=sOBLy3Kgwe2KjpOg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5B849F7F-3A0B-49FA-8436-E2DDDB76601E@icloud.com>

I?ve used ospho on the Exterior steel stairs I built in 2005. I then painted over it with red metal primer. The steel was new but had some rust & scale on it that I wire wheeled. Haven?t had any problems with rust, though I did just repaint to change color. 

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne 
We support Habitat for Humanity


On May 10, 2020, at 12:34 PM, Ronnie Day via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
I'm cleaning up and rebuilding a locally built, wood decked utility trailer. Typical angle iron/tube frame construction. The original paint is worn, a lot, and there's considerable surface rust. I took it to the quarter car wash and cleaned it up as best I could.

I'm not inclined to have the whole thing media blasted so the plan is, doing a section at a time, to use wire brushes and a detail sander to remove as much of the loose paint as I can, and then hit that area with rattle can primer/paint to "seal/convert" the rust I can't get off, then move to the next section.

Realizing there are products out there that supposedly work like magic, what actually does a decent job? I'm looking for durability and protection, not a car show finish.

RD
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From RWM at RWMann.com  Sun May 10 11:55:36 2020
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2020 13:55:36 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT - Rust Treatment & Paint?
In-Reply-To: <CAMHhs6ecL=svRiVmUH=k5daaTSOECm3a9=sOBLy3Kgwe2KjpOg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMHhs6ecL=svRiVmUH=k5daaTSOECm3a9=sOBLy3Kgwe2KjpOg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EBD9615D-042D-460F-A061-AA71D6FCE5AC@RWMann.com>

I've used POR-15 liquid (pricey, and difficult to work with), Rustoleum Rust Converter spray, and Loctite Rust Neutralizer spray, all to good long-term effect.

As with all paint application, surface preparation is the key.

- Bob


> On May 10, 2020, at 13:35, Ronnie Day via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I'm cleaning up and rebuilding a locally built, wood decked utility trailer. Typical angle iron/tube frame construction. The original paint is worn, a lot, and there's considerable surface rust. I took it to the quarter car wash and cleaned it up as best I could.
> 
> I'm not inclined to have the whole thing media blasted so the plan is, doing a section at a time, to use wire brushes and a detail sander to remove as much of the loose paint as I can, and then hit that area with rattle can primer/paint to "seal/convert" the rust I can't get off, then move to the next section.
> 
> Realizing there are products out there that supposedly work like magic, what actually does a decent job? I'm looking for durability and protection, not a car show finish.
> 
> RD
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From markmiller at threeboysfarm.com  Sun May 10 17:33:02 2020
From: markmiller at threeboysfarm.com (Mark Miller)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2020 16:33:02 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Time for my car to come back from a long sleep,
 some help needed
In-Reply-To: <mailman.8.1565200803.19869.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.8.1565200803.19869.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <380c5cd7-f0c0-daaf-aa9d-e0973c46d203@threeboysfarm.com>

Hi. I've been remiss on keeping my roadster on the road, and it is time 
to fix this.? It's been 4 or 5 years . . .
It's last nap of more than a year ended when I had someone replace the 
clutch and also tidied up a bunch of other things it needed, back in 
2001 or so.? That worked out so well, with the car running beautifully 
afterwards that I'd like to do it again.? If only I remembered who did 
it. . .? If I had better records and/or brain I'd know who it was and 
have contact info but I know I can ask this list who will of course be 
able to figure it out. I have a receipt but it doesn't show a name or 
contact info.

It was someone in Lake county who came and towed my car back to their 
shop, did his magic, and then brought it back (or maybe I went and 
picked it up?).? I was in Alameda at the time.? For a bonus: I've since 
moved to Sebastopol, so it is a much shorter commute.? I understand that 
this was 19 years ago, but we are all crazy (in a good way) on this list 
and the likelihood of them still playing with our little cars is pretty 
good.

It ran when I parked it (yeah right, everyone says that... but for real 
here).? Now it (at least) needs the hydraulics and fuel system/carbs 
wrung out, probably some more as well. And I need to get it new tires 
before it can be moved around at all, 2 are flat/rotted and all are 
showing cracking.

Thanks all!

Regards,

Mark Miller   707-490-5834
markmiller at threeboysfarm.com
69 RHD 2000, w solexes and a factory hardtop



From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sun May 10 17:51:19 2020
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2020 16:51:19 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Time for my car to come back from a long sleep,
 some help needed
In-Reply-To: <380c5cd7-f0c0-daaf-aa9d-e0973c46d203@threeboysfarm.com>
Message-ID: <47kgjtkssjdln26k88nbm8rh.1589154679180@comcast.net>

Maybe Mike Young and Datsun Sports?

Pete
Sent via BlackBerry Hub+ Inbox for Android


?---Original Message---?
From: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: May 10, 2020 4:35 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Reply-to: markmiller at threeboysfarm.com
Subject: [Roadsters] Time for my car to come back from a long sleep, some help needed


Hi. I've been remiss on keeping my roadster on the road, and it is time
to fix this.? It's been 4 or 5 years . . .
It's last nap of more than a year ended when I had someone replace the
clutch and also tidied up a bunch of other things it needed, back in
2001 or so.? That worked out so well, with the car running beautifully
afterwards that I'd like to do it again.? If only I remembered who did
it. . .? If I had better records and/or brain I'd know who it was and
have contact info but I know I can ask this list who will of course be
able to figure it out. I have a receipt but it doesn't show a name or
contact info.

It was someone in Lake county who came and towed my car back to their
shop, did his magic, and then brought it back (or maybe I went and
picked it up?).? I was in Alameda at the time.? For a bonus: I've since
moved to Sebastopol, so it is a much shorter commute.? I understand that
this was 19 years ago, but we are all crazy (in a good way) on this list
and the likelihood of them still playing with our little cars is pretty
good.

It ran when I parked it (yeah right, everyone says that... but for real
here).? Now it (at least) needs the hydraulics and fuel system/carbs
wrung out, probably some more as well. And I need to get it new tires
before it can be moved around at all, 2 are flat/rotted and all are
showing cracking.

Thanks all!

Regards,

Mark Miller?? 707-490-5834
markmiller at threeboysfarm.com
69 RHD 2000, w solexes and a factory hardtop


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From alvingogi at gmail.com  Sun May 10 19:18:50 2020
From: alvingogi at gmail.com (Alvin Gogineni)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2020 18:18:50 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Happy 510 Day!
Message-ID: <CALmuZ6DzY8D=yLe2h4NsRCAodgUY8V0vzWDVrd-nM3z4WnYjiA@mail.gmail.com>

Happy 510 Day and Happy Mother's Day!
https://zcarblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/IMG_6529.jpg

I spent this morning driving two turbocharged 1971 Datsun 510s, "Turbo6" is
a L-series 4-door 510:
https://zcarblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/IMG_6464.jpg

GOGA510 is a familiar SR20DET-powered 2-door 510:
https://zcarblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/5d8b7216-6e0f-41ad-bdec-97940c117c94.jpg

Video of the 510s in action:
https://youtu.be/B2zhC-yLOvo

More pictures here:
https://www.zcarblog.com/2020/05/10/events/happy-510-day-5.html

This evening I drove my roadster and Sora:
http://www.zcarblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/IMG_5496.jpg
http://www.zcarblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/IMG_5108.jpg
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From charlie at hubco.com  Mon May 11 08:24:04 2020
From: charlie at hubco.com (Charles Hubbard)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 14:24:04 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] 1991 Nissan Figaro on Dallas area Facebook Marketplace
Message-ID: <DM6PR19MB3786BF06D38399691B9A5402BEA10@DM6PR19MB3786.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

OK, this is interesting.  I've never seen or heard of a Nissan Figaro (RHD).  If anyone is interested, I could go take a look.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/495982277710604/

Respectfully,

Charlie Hubbard, PMP
HUBCo Communications, Inc.
M: 214.507.5569
O: 469.293.3081
www.hubco.com<http://www.hubco.com/>
charlie at hubco.com
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From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Mon May 11 08:32:44 2020
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 10:32:44 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 1991 Nissan Figaro on Dallas area Facebook
 Marketplace
In-Reply-To: <DM6PR19MB3786BF06D38399691B9A5402BEA10@DM6PR19MB3786.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DM6PR19MB3786BF06D38399691B9A5402BEA10@DM6PR19MB3786.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEsCj02ppfiAm-DtG7LRZOZunNaAnxhRHx7Qvydj-vDoug@mail.gmail.com>

  Nissan has a habit of building odd little cars in very limited numbers.
This was just one of many, but none were ever intended for the US market.

Paul
Ohio

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:24 AM Charles Hubbard via Datsun-roadsters <
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:

> OK, this is interesting.  I?ve never seen or heard of a Nissan Figaro
> (RHD).  If anyone is interested, I could go take a look.
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/495982277710604/
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
>
>
> Charlie Hubbard, PMP
>
> HUBCo Communications, Inc.
>
> M: 214.507.5569
>
> O: 469.293.3081
>
> www.hubco.com
>
> charlie at hubco.com
>
>
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From plhbauman at earthlink.net  Mon May 11 10:55:00 2020
From: plhbauman at earthlink.net (Paul Bauman)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 09:55:00 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 1991 Nissan Figaro on Dallas area Facebook
 Marketplace
In-Reply-To: <DM6PR19MB3786BF06D38399691B9A5402BEA10@DM6PR19MB3786.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DM6PR19MB3786BF06D38399691B9A5402BEA10@DM6PR19MB3786.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <9f12c31a-c78b-cf0f-6ff6-a7af57364c5a@earthlink.net>

I've heard of a Nissan Figaro. And my friends used to ask me why I 
watched shows like Doctor Who. Time well spent, I'm thinkin...

Paul Bauman

Westminster, CA

67 1600


On 5/11/20 7:24 AM, Charles Hubbard via Datsun-roadsters wrote:
>
> OK, this is interesting.? I?ve never seen or heard of a Nissan Figaro 
> (RHD).? If anyone is interested, I could go take a look.
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/495982277710604/
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Charlie Hubbard, PMP
>
> HUBCo Communications, Inc.
>
> M: 214.507.5569
>
> O: 469.293.3081
>
> www.hubco.com <http://www.hubco.com/>
>
> charlie at hubco.com
>
>
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From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Mon May 11 11:04:31 2020
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 12:04:31 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 1991 Nissan Figaro on Dallas area Facebook
 Marketplace
In-Reply-To: <9f12c31a-c78b-cf0f-6ff6-a7af57364c5a@earthlink.net>
References: <DM6PR19MB3786BF06D38399691B9A5402BEA10@DM6PR19MB3786.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
 <9f12c31a-c78b-cf0f-6ff6-a7af57364c5a@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CAMHhs6fpfDbn6P7hy6h-H=w0r5cwEAgcbEkeLEUPwAyRXkMHOQ@mail.gmail.com>

They're considered Kei (City) cars. Looks a little like a jelly bean. They
show up on Bring-A-Trailer occasionally.

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 11:58 AM Paul Bauman via Datsun-roadsters <
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I've heard of a Nissan Figaro. And my friends used to ask me why I watched
> shows like Doctor Who. Time well spent, I'm thinkin...
>
> Paul Bauman
>
> Westminster, CA
>
> 67 1600
>
>
> On 5/11/20 7:24 AM, Charles Hubbard via Datsun-roadsters wrote:
>
> OK, this is interesting.  I?ve never seen or heard of a Nissan Figaro
> (RHD).  If anyone is interested, I could go take a look.
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/495982277710604/
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
>
>
> Charlie Hubbard, PMP
>
> HUBCo Communications, Inc.
>
> M: 214.507.5569
>
> O: 469.293.3081
>
> www.hubco.com
>
> charlie at hubco.com
>
>
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From mikelyons at aol.com  Mon May 11 14:37:01 2020
From: mikelyons at aol.com (mikelyons at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 20:37:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel indication issues
In-Reply-To: <F3D2D163-DE4D-46A4-AEDA-A859C67953C8@RWMann.com>
References: <EF8C9CB9-84B0-4A22-8162-99B45C4CCDC5@icloud.com>
 <F3D2D163-DE4D-46A4-AEDA-A859C67953C8@RWMann.com>
Message-ID: <960337236.1635908.1589229421876@mail.yahoo.com>

I have the Nissan Service Manual for the SPL 310. The attached PDF is a copy of the information concerning trouble shooting the fuel gauge and a wiring diagram.

I hope it can be of help.

Mike Lyons
Vancouver, WA
1967 SPL 311 with 135 HP 2000
1967 1/2 SPL 311
1983 280ZX Turbo
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: RWM via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
To: Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com>
Cc: Datsun List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, May 9, 2020 1:57 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel indication issues

Pat,

The black wire is zero (ground).

Guess I'll try to work my fingers up behind the gauge and check for continuity.

Thanks.

- Bob



> On May 9, 2020, at 16:53, Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Bob,
> That sounds a bit off. The 7.6v on the yellow wire to ground is fine, but the black wire should be zero. 
> 
> When you ground the yellow wire to the body, the gauge should go to max. Sounds like you have a bad fuel gauge. Just to be sure you can try grounding the terminal on the gauge that the yellow wire goes to. 
> 
> Peace,
> Pat
> 
> Pat Horne 
> We support Habitat for Humanity
> 
> 
>> On May 9, 2020, at 3:09 PM, RWM <RWM at rwmann.com> wrote:
>> 
> 
> ?Pat,
> 
> With ignition switch in running position
> 
> Yellow wire to chassis is 7.6 volts, same as to black wire
> 
> Yellow wire to ground, no gauge deflection 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> - Bob
> 
> 
>> On May 9, 2020, at 13:19, Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hook everything back up except the sender. Turn on the key & measure for voltage @ the sender wires to ground. One should show voltage & the other should be grounded. (Not home now to get colors) ground the one with voltage. If the gauge still sits on empty you have a bad gauge. If there is no voltage it could be a bad connection or a bad gauge. Let me know what y?all find & I?ll walk you through more diagnostics. 
>> 
>> Peace,
>> Pat
>> 
>> 
>> Pat Horne 
>> We support Habitat for Humanity
>> 
>> 
>>>>> On May 9, 2020, at 11:02 AM, RWM via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> ?This has been discussed before, but here are the indications:
>> 
>> Fuel gauge does not budge off empty 
>> 
>> Fuel sender resistance shows 34 ohms as installed, with tank less than half full
>> 
>> Fuel sender resistance when removed varies fairly linearly from 47 ohms (bottom) to near zero ohms (near top), then open circuit when the arm forces the wiper off the rheostat windings
>> 
>> Fuel harness is delivering 7.6 volts, measured with the yellow and black connectors removed
>> 
>> Shorting the fuel harness to itself (yellow to black) does not change the fuel gauge indication
>> 
>> Ammeter works, temperature gauge works
>> 
>> Ideas? Dash harness connector?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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From mikelyons at aol.com  Mon May 11 14:37:01 2020
From: mikelyons at aol.com (mikelyons at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 20:37:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel indication issues
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 <F3D2D163-DE4D-46A4-AEDA-A859C67953C8@RWMann.com>
Message-ID: <960337236.1635908.1589229421876@mail.yahoo.com>

I have the Nissan Service Manual for the SPL 310. The attached PDF is a copy of the information concerning trouble shooting the fuel gauge and a wiring diagram.

I hope it can be of help.

Mike Lyons
Vancouver, WA
1967 SPL 311 with 135 HP 2000
1967 1/2 SPL 311
1983 280ZX Turbo
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: RWM via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
To: Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com>
Cc: Datsun List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, May 9, 2020 1:57 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel indication issues

Pat,

The black wire is zero (ground).

Guess I'll try to work my fingers up behind the gauge and check for continuity.

Thanks.

- Bob



> On May 9, 2020, at 16:53, Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Bob,
> That sounds a bit off. The 7.6v on the yellow wire to ground is fine, but the black wire should be zero. 
> 
> When you ground the yellow wire to the body, the gauge should go to max. Sounds like you have a bad fuel gauge. Just to be sure you can try grounding the terminal on the gauge that the yellow wire goes to. 
> 
> Peace,
> Pat
> 
> Pat Horne 
> We support Habitat for Humanity
> 
> 
>> On May 9, 2020, at 3:09 PM, RWM <RWM at rwmann.com> wrote:
>> 
> 
> ?Pat,
> 
> With ignition switch in running position
> 
> Yellow wire to chassis is 7.6 volts, same as to black wire
> 
> Yellow wire to ground, no gauge deflection 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> - Bob
> 
> 
>> On May 9, 2020, at 13:19, Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hook everything back up except the sender. Turn on the key & measure for voltage @ the sender wires to ground. One should show voltage & the other should be grounded. (Not home now to get colors) ground the one with voltage. If the gauge still sits on empty you have a bad gauge. If there is no voltage it could be a bad connection or a bad gauge. Let me know what y?all find & I?ll walk you through more diagnostics. 
>> 
>> Peace,
>> Pat
>> 
>> 
>> Pat Horne 
>> We support Habitat for Humanity
>> 
>> 
>>>>> On May 9, 2020, at 11:02 AM, RWM via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> ?This has been discussed before, but here are the indications:
>> 
>> Fuel gauge does not budge off empty 
>> 
>> Fuel sender resistance shows 34 ohms as installed, with tank less than half full
>> 
>> Fuel sender resistance when removed varies fairly linearly from 47 ohms (bottom) to near zero ohms (near top), then open circuit when the arm forces the wiper off the rheostat windings
>> 
>> Fuel harness is delivering 7.6 volts, measured with the yellow and black connectors removed
>> 
>> Shorting the fuel harness to itself (yellow to black) does not change the fuel gauge indication
>> 
>> Ammeter works, temperature gauge works
>> 
>> Ideas? Dash harness connector?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________________
>> 
>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>> 
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From patintexas at icloud.com  Mon May 11 14:42:57 2020
From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 15:42:57 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel indication issues
In-Reply-To: <960337236.1635908.1589229421876@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <960337236.1635908.1589229421876@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <85555813-817A-4BCC-BFB4-7A0F04EB36E5@icloud.com>

Thanks, Mike. I?m not sure how this circuit compares to the 311 but I?ll check. One difference I see is that the 311s have a voltage regulator for the instruments. I?ll have to check on the ground for the gauge. If there is one, that could cause this problem if it is bad. 

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne 
We support Habitat for Humanity


On May 11, 2020, at 3:37 PM, mikelyons at aol.com wrote:

?
I have the Nissan Service Manual for the SPL 310. The attached PDF is a copy of the information concerning trouble shooting the fuel gauge and a wiring diagram.

I hope it can be of help.

Mike Lyons
Vancouver, WA
1967 SPL 311 with 135 HP 2000
1967 1/2 SPL 311
1983 280ZX Turbo



-----Original Message-----
From: RWM via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
To: Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com>
Cc: Datsun List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, May 9, 2020 1:57 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel indication issues

Pat,

The black wire is zero (ground).

Guess I'll try to work my fingers up behind the gauge and check for continuity.

Thanks.

- Bob



> On May 9, 2020, at 16:53, Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Bob,
> That sounds a bit off. The 7.6v on the yellow wire to ground is fine, but the black wire should be zero. 
> 
> When you ground the yellow wire to the body, the gauge should go to max. Sounds like you have a bad fuel gauge. Just to be sure you can try grounding the terminal on the gauge that the yellow wire goes to. 
> 
> Peace,
> Pat
> 
> Pat Horne 
> We support Habitat for Humanity
> 
> 
>> On May 9, 2020, at 3:09 PM, RWM <RWM at rwmann.com> wrote:
>> 
> 
> ?Pat,
> 
> With ignition switch in running position
> 
> Yellow wire to chassis is 7.6 volts, same as to black wire
> 
> Yellow wire to ground, no gauge deflection 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> - Bob
> 
> 
>> On May 9, 2020, at 13:19, Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hook everything back up except the sender. Turn on the key & measure for voltage @ the sender wires to ground. One should show voltage & the other should be grounded. (Not home now to get colors) ground the one with voltage. If the gauge still sits on empty you have a bad gauge. If there is no voltage it could be a bad connection or a bad gauge. Let me know what y?all find & I?ll walk you through more diagnostics. 
>> 
>> Peace,
>> Pat
>> 
>> 
>> Pat Horne 
>> We support Habitat for Humanity
>> 
>> 
>>>>> On May 9, 2020, at 11:02 AM, RWM via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> ?This has been discussed before, but here are the indications:
>> 
>> Fuel gauge does not budge off empty 
>> 
>> Fuel sender resistance shows 34 ohms as installed, with tank less than half full
>> 
>> Fuel sender resistance when removed varies fairly linearly from 47 ohms (bottom) to near zero ohms (near top), then open circuit when the arm forces the wiper off the rheostat windings
>> 
>> Fuel harness is delivering 7.6 volts, measured with the yellow and black connectors removed
>> 
>> Shorting the fuel harness to itself (yellow to black) does not change the fuel gauge indication
>> 
>> Ammeter works, temperature gauge works
>> 
>> Ideas? Dash harness connector?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________________
>> 
>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>> 
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From mikelyons at aol.com  Mon May 11 15:16:21 2020
From: mikelyons at aol.com (mikelyons at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 21:16:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel indication issues
In-Reply-To: <85555813-817A-4BCC-BFB4-7A0F04EB36E5@icloud.com>
References: <960337236.1635908.1589229421876@mail.yahoo.com>
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Pat,

I agree. I looked all over in that 310 schematic for a voltage regulator but could not find one. I was surprised since almost all cars from those years used voltage regulators to run the gauges.

Mike Lyons
Vancouver, WA
1967 SPL 311 with 135 HP 2000
1967 1/2 SPL 311
1983 280ZX Turbo
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com>
To: mikelyons at aol.com
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, May 11, 2020 1:42 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel indication issues

Thanks, Mike. I?m not sure how this circuit compares to the 311 but I?ll check. One difference I see is that the 311s have a voltage regulator for the instruments. I?ll have to check on the ground for the gauge. If there is one, that could cause this problem if it is bad.?
Peace,Pat

Pat Horne?We support Habitat for Humanity

On May 11, 2020, at 3:37 PM, mikelyons at aol.com wrote:

?I have the Nissan Service Manual for the SPL 310. The attached PDF is a copy of the information concerning trouble shooting the fuel gauge and a wiring diagram.

I hope it can be of help.

Mike Lyons
Vancouver, WA
1967 SPL 311 with 135 HP 2000
1967 1/2 SPL 311
1983 280ZX Turbo
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: RWM via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
To: Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com>
Cc: Datsun List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, May 9, 2020 1:57 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel indication issues

Pat,

The black wire is zero (ground).

Guess I'll try to work my fingers up behind the gauge and check for continuity.

Thanks.

- Bob



> On May 9, 2020, at 16:53, Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Bob,
> That sounds a bit off. The 7.6v on the yellow wire to ground is fine, but the black wire should be zero. 
> 
> When you ground the yellow wire to the body, the gauge should go to max. Sounds like you have a bad fuel gauge. Just to be sure you can try grounding the terminal on the gauge that the yellow wire goes to. 
> 
> Peace,
> Pat
> 
> Pat Horne 
> We support Habitat for Humanity
> 
> 
>> On May 9, 2020, at 3:09 PM, RWM <RWM at rwmann.com> wrote:
>> 
> 
> ?Pat,
> 
> With ignition switch in running position
> 
> Yellow wire to chassis is 7.6 volts, same as to black wire
> 
> Yellow wire to ground, no gauge deflection 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> - Bob
> 
> 
>> On May 9, 2020, at 13:19, Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hook everything back up except the sender. Turn on the key & measure for voltage @ the sender wires to ground. One should show voltage & the other should be grounded. (Not home now to get colors) ground the one with voltage. If the gauge still sits on empty you have a bad gauge. If there is no voltage it could be a bad connection or a bad gauge. Let me know what y?all find & I?ll walk you through more diagnostics. 
>> 
>> Peace,
>> Pat
>> 
>> 
>> Pat Horne 
>> We support Habitat for Humanity
>> 
>> 
>>>>> On May 9, 2020, at 11:02 AM, RWM via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> ?This has been discussed before, but here are the indications:
>> 
>> Fuel gauge does not budge off empty 
>> 
>> Fuel sender resistance shows 34 ohms as installed, with tank less than half full
>> 
>> Fuel sender resistance when removed varies fairly linearly from 47 ohms (bottom) to near zero ohms (near top), then open circuit when the arm forces the wiper off the rheostat windings
>> 
>> Fuel harness is delivering 7.6 volts, measured with the yellow and black connectors removed
>> 
>> Shorting the fuel harness to itself (yellow to black) does not change the fuel gauge indication
>> 
>> Ammeter works, temperature gauge works
>> 
>> Ideas? Dash harness connector?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________________
>> 
>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>> 
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From rwm at rwmann.com  Mon May 11 16:04:53 2020
From: rwm at rwmann.com (RWM)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 18:04:53 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel indication issues
In-Reply-To: <85555813-817A-4BCC-BFB4-7A0F04EB36E5@icloud.com>
References: <960337236.1635908.1589229421876@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <8be6d627-0882-3fe2-db08-4512b34aae38@rwmann.com>

This is very helpful, thanks.

Once point I note is it seems the range of the 311 sender unit 
resistance is backwards to the 310 -- greatest when tank is empty (47 
ohms) and least when full (approaching zero).

- Bob



On 5/11/2020 4:42 PM, Pat Horne via Datsun-roadsters wrote:
> Thanks, Mike. I?m not sure how this circuit compares to the 311 but 
> I?ll check. One difference I see is that the 311s have a voltage 
> regulator for the instruments. I?ll have to check on the ground for 
> the gauge. If there is one, that could cause this problem if it is bad.
>
> Peace,
> Pat
>
> Pat Horne
> We support Habitat for Humanity
>
>
> On May 11, 2020, at 3:37 PM, mikelyons at aol.com wrote:
>
> ?
> I have the Nissan Service Manual for the SPL 310. The attached PDF is 
> a copy of the information concerning trouble shooting the fuel gauge 
> and a wiring diagram.
>
> I hope it can be of help.
>
> Mike Lyons
> Vancouver, WA
> 1967 SPL 311 with 135 HP 2000
> 1967 1/2 SPL 311
> 1983 280ZX Turbo
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWM via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> To: Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com>
> Cc: Datsun List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sat, May 9, 2020 1:57 pm
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel indication issues
>
> Pat,
>
> The black wire is zero (ground).
>
> Guess I'll try to work my fingers up behind the gauge and check for 
> continuity.
>
> Thanks.
>
> - Bob
>
>
>
> > On May 9, 2020, at 16:53, Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com 
> <mailto:patintexas at icloud.com>> wrote:
> >
> > ?Bob,
> > That sounds a bit off. The 7.6v on the yellow wire to ground is 
> fine, but the black wire should be zero.
> >
> > When you ground the yellow wire to the body, the gauge should go to 
> max. Sounds like you have a bad fuel gauge. Just to be sure you can 
> try grounding the terminal on the gauge that the yellow wire goes to.
> >
> > Peace,
> > Pat
> >
> > Pat Horne
> > We support Habitat for Humanity
> >
> >
> >> On May 9, 2020, at 3:09 PM, RWM <RWM at rwmann.com 
> <mailto:RWM at rwmann.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >
> > ?Pat,
> >
> > With ignition switch in running position
> >
> > Yellow wire to chassis is 7.6 volts, same as to black wire
> >
> > Yellow wire to ground, no gauge deflection
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > - Bob
> >
> >
> >> On May 9, 2020, at 13:19, Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com 
> <mailto:patintexas at icloud.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?Hook everything back up except the sender. Turn on the key & 
> measure for voltage @ the sender wires to ground. One should show 
> voltage & the other should be grounded. (Not home now to get colors) 
> ground the one with voltage. If the gauge still sits on empty you have 
> a bad gauge. If there is no voltage it could be a bad connection or a 
> bad gauge. Let me know what y?all find & I?ll walk you through more 
> diagnostics.
> >>
> >> Peace,
> >> Pat
> >>
> >>
> >> Pat Horne
> >> We support Habitat for Humanity
> >>
> >>
> >>>>> On May 9, 2020, at 11:02 AM, RWM via Datsun-roadsters 
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net 
> <mailto:datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>
> >> ?This has been discussed before, but here are the indications:
> >>
> >> Fuel gauge does not budge off empty
> >>
> >> Fuel sender resistance shows 34 ohms as installed, with tank less 
> than half full
> >>
> >> Fuel sender resistance when removed varies fairly linearly from 47 
> ohms (bottom) to near zero ohms (near top), then open circuit when the 
> arm forces the wiper off the rheostat windings
> >>
> >> Fuel harness is delivering 7.6 volts, measured with the yellow and 
> black connectors removed
> >>
> >> Shorting the fuel harness to itself (yellow to black) does not 
> change the fuel gauge indication
> >>
> >> Ammeter works, temperature gauge works
> >>
> >> Ideas? Dash harness connector?
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________________
> >>
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From rpboland at aol.com  Tue May 12 12:15:26 2020
From: rpboland at aol.com (rpboland at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 14:15:26 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 Wiring Harness Info
References: <028501d62889$4fef4600$efcdd200$.ref@aol.com>
Message-ID: <028501d62889$4fef4600$efcdd200$@aol.com>

Hi All,

This is my first time posing to the list but I've been a longtime reader.
My thanks to all who run it and contribute, I've found lots of good
information in the interchanges.

 

Does anyone know of a resource with information on the wiring that is
supposed to be in the various harnesses? 

My 2000 has had various "mods" over the years and I'm trying to sort out
some of the mess.

 

Thanks,

Bob Boland

1968 Solex 2000

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From patintexas at icloud.com  Tue May 12 12:31:00 2020
From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 13:31:00 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 Wiring Harness Info
In-Reply-To: <028501d62889$4fef4600$efcdd200$@aol.com>
References: <028501d62889$4fef4600$efcdd200$@aol.com>
Message-ID: <C68EC691-B7D1-4C1B-AD00-7CB4E94AB7D4@icloud.com>

Check out 311s.org/tech wiki/wiring layouts. You should find what you need there. 

There used to be full wiring diagrams there but I don?t see them. I suspect I just didn?t look in the right place. 

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne 
We support Habitat for Humanity


On May 12, 2020, at 1:24 PM, Bob Boland via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
Hi All,
This is my first time posing to the list but I?ve been a longtime reader.  My thanks to all who run it and contribute, I?ve found lots of good information in the interchanges.
 
Does anyone know of a resource with information on the wiring that is supposed to be in the various harnesses?
My 2000 has had various ?mods? over the years and I?m trying to sort out some of the mess.
 
Thanks,
Bob Boland
1968 Solex 2000
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From patintexas at icloud.com  Tue May 12 13:17:24 2020
From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 14:17:24 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 Wiring Harness Info
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Found them. 311s.org>tech wiki>Electrical>schematics: wiring diagrams

Pat Horne 
We support Habitat for Humanity


On May 12, 2020, at 1:24 PM, Bob Boland via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
Hi All,
This is my first time posing to the list but I?ve been a longtime reader.  My thanks to all who run it and contribute, I?ve found lots of good information in the interchanges.
 
Does anyone know of a resource with information on the wiring that is supposed to be in the various harnesses?
My 2000 has had various ?mods? over the years and I?m trying to sort out some of the mess.
 
Thanks,
Bob Boland
1968 Solex 2000
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From rpboland at aol.com  Tue May 12 13:21:24 2020
From: rpboland at aol.com (rpboland at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 15:21:24 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 Wiring Harness Info
In-Reply-To: <E97C416F-BE63-4FE0-9347-4FCE3D0C0F2D@icloud.com>
References: <028501d62889$4fef4600$efcdd200$@aol.com>
 <E97C416F-BE63-4FE0-9347-4FCE3D0C0F2D@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <02c101d62892$8755c610$96015230$@aol.com>

Hi,

Thanks ? I found them including some nifty color ones.  I was also hoping for wire lists from the individual harnesses, but I think I can figure them out from these augmented drawings.

 

Thanks, Bob

 

 

From: Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 3:17 PM
To: rpboland at aol.com
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 2000 Wiring Harness Info

 

Found them. 311s.org>tech wiki>Electrical>schematics: wiring diagrams

Pat Horne 

We support Habitat for Humanity

 


On May 12, 2020, at 1:24 PM, Bob Boland via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net <mailto:datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> > wrote:

?

Hi All,

This is my first time posing to the list but I?ve been a longtime reader.  My thanks to all who run it and contribute, I?ve found lots of good information in the interchanges.

 

Does anyone know of a resource with information on the wiring that is supposed to be in the various harnesses? 

My 2000 has had various ?mods? over the years and I?m trying to sort out some of the mess.

 

Thanks,

Bob Boland

1968 Solex 2000

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From rpboland at aol.com  Tue May 12 13:21:24 2020
From: rpboland at aol.com (rpboland at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 15:21:24 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 Wiring Harness Info
In-Reply-To: <E97C416F-BE63-4FE0-9347-4FCE3D0C0F2D@icloud.com>
References: <028501d62889$4fef4600$efcdd200$@aol.com>
 <E97C416F-BE63-4FE0-9347-4FCE3D0C0F2D@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <02c101d62892$8755c610$96015230$@aol.com>

Hi,

Thanks ? I found them including some nifty color ones.  I was also hoping for wire lists from the individual harnesses, but I think I can figure them out from these augmented drawings.

 

Thanks, Bob

 

 

From: Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 3:17 PM
To: rpboland at aol.com
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 2000 Wiring Harness Info

 

Found them. 311s.org>tech wiki>Electrical>schematics: wiring diagrams

Pat Horne 

We support Habitat for Humanity

 


On May 12, 2020, at 1:24 PM, Bob Boland via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net <mailto:datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> > wrote:

?

Hi All,

This is my first time posing to the list but I?ve been a longtime reader.  My thanks to all who run it and contribute, I?ve found lots of good information in the interchanges.

 

Does anyone know of a resource with information on the wiring that is supposed to be in the various harnesses? 

My 2000 has had various ?mods? over the years and I?m trying to sort out some of the mess.

 

Thanks,

Bob Boland

1968 Solex 2000

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From markmiller at threeboysfarm.com  Tue May 12 13:31:51 2020
From: markmiller at threeboysfarm.com (Mark Miller)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 12:31:51 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Time for my car to come back from a long sleep,
 some help needed
In-Reply-To: <380c5cd7-f0c0-daaf-aa9d-e0973c46d203@threeboysfarm.com>
References: <mailman.8.1565200803.19869.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
 <380c5cd7-f0c0-daaf-aa9d-e0973c46d203@threeboysfarm.com>
Message-ID: <0619b417-832c-6d4d-37b5-67f6a34edbc6@threeboysfarm.com>

Many many thanks to all who filled in the missing section of my brain.? 
Mike Young has been contacted.? Hope to see some of you on the road this 
summer.

On 5/10/2020 4:33 PM, Mark Miller wrote:
> Hi. I've been remiss on keeping my roadster on the road, and it is 
> time to fix this.? It's been 4 or 5 years . . .
> It's last nap of more than a year ended when I had someone replace the 
> clutch and also tidied up a bunch of other things it needed, back in 
> 2001 or so.? That worked out so well, with the car running beautifully 
> afterwards that I'd like to do it again.? If only I remembered who did 
> it. . .? If I had better records and/or brain I'd know who it was and 
> have contact info but I know I can ask this list who will of course be 
> able to figure it out. I have a receipt but it doesn't show a name or 
> contact info.
>
> It was someone in Lake county who came and towed my car back to their 
> shop, did his magic, and then brought it back (or maybe I went and 
> picked it up?).? I was in Alameda at the time.? For a bonus: I've 
> since moved to Sebastopol, so it is a much shorter commute.? I 
> understand that this was 19 years ago, but we are all crazy (in a good 
> way) on this list and the likelihood of them still playing with our 
> little cars is pretty good.
>
> It ran when I parked it (yeah right, everyone says that... but for 
> real here).? Now it (at least) needs the hydraulics and fuel 
> system/carbs wrung out, probably some more as well. And I need to get 
> it new tires before it can be moved around at all, 2 are flat/rotted 
> and all are showing cracking.
>
> Thanks all!
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Miller?? 707-490-5834
> markmiller at threeboysfarm.com
> 69 RHD 2000, w solexes and a factory hardtop
>
>

From rpboland at aol.com  Tue May 12 13:33:10 2020
From: rpboland at aol.com (rpboland at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 15:33:10 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 Wiring Harness Info
References: <028501d62889$4fef4600$efcdd200$@aol.com>
 <E97C416F-BE63-4FE0-9347-4FCE3D0C0F2D@icloud.com> 
Message-ID: <02ce01d62894$2c470110$84d50330$@aol.com>

Hi,

I just found harness diagrams also on 311s.org!

 

Thanks for getting me hunting around there!

 

Bob

 

From: rpboland at aol.com <rpboland at aol.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 3:21 PM
To: 'Pat Horne' <patintexas at icloud.com>
Cc: 'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net' <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] 2000 Wiring Harness Info

 

Hi,

Thanks ? I found them including some nifty color ones.  I was also hoping for wire lists from the individual harnesses, but I think I can figure them out from these augmented drawings.

 

Thanks, Bob

 

 

From: Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com <mailto:patintexas at icloud.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 3:17 PM
To: rpboland at aol.com <mailto:rpboland at aol.com> 
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net <mailto:datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 2000 Wiring Harness Info

 

Found them. 311s.org>tech wiki>Electrical>schematics: wiring diagrams

Pat Horne 

We support Habitat for Humanity

 


On May 12, 2020, at 1:24 PM, Bob Boland via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net <mailto:datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> > wrote:

?

Hi All,

This is my first time posing to the list but I?ve been a longtime reader.  My thanks to all who run it and contribute, I?ve found lots of good information in the interchanges.

 

Does anyone know of a resource with information on the wiring that is supposed to be in the various harnesses? 

My 2000 has had various ?mods? over the years and I?m trying to sort out some of the mess.

 

Thanks,

Bob Boland

1968 Solex 2000

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From rpboland at aol.com  Tue May 12 13:33:10 2020
From: rpboland at aol.com (rpboland at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 15:33:10 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 Wiring Harness Info
References: <028501d62889$4fef4600$efcdd200$@aol.com>
 <E97C416F-BE63-4FE0-9347-4FCE3D0C0F2D@icloud.com> 
Message-ID: <02ce01d62894$2c470110$84d50330$@aol.com>

Hi,

I just found harness diagrams also on 311s.org!

 

Thanks for getting me hunting around there!

 

Bob

 

From: rpboland at aol.com <rpboland at aol.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 3:21 PM
To: 'Pat Horne' <patintexas at icloud.com>
Cc: 'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net' <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] 2000 Wiring Harness Info

 

Hi,

Thanks ? I found them including some nifty color ones.  I was also hoping for wire lists from the individual harnesses, but I think I can figure them out from these augmented drawings.

 

Thanks, Bob

 

 

From: Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com <mailto:patintexas at icloud.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 3:17 PM
To: rpboland at aol.com <mailto:rpboland at aol.com> 
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net <mailto:datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 2000 Wiring Harness Info

 

Found them. 311s.org>tech wiki>Electrical>schematics: wiring diagrams

Pat Horne 

We support Habitat for Humanity

 


On May 12, 2020, at 1:24 PM, Bob Boland via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net <mailto:datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> > wrote:

?

Hi All,

This is my first time posing to the list but I?ve been a longtime reader.  My thanks to all who run it and contribute, I?ve found lots of good information in the interchanges.

 

Does anyone know of a resource with information on the wiring that is supposed to be in the various harnesses? 

My 2000 has had various ?mods? over the years and I?m trying to sort out some of the mess.

 

Thanks,

Bob Boland

1968 Solex 2000

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From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Tue May 12 16:30:21 2020
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 17:30:21 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 Wiring Harness Info
In-Reply-To: <02ce01d62894$2c470110$84d50330$@aol.com>
References: <028501d62889$4fef4600$efcdd200$@aol.com>
 <E97C416F-BE63-4FE0-9347-4FCE3D0C0F2D@icloud.com>
 <02ce01d62894$2c470110$84d50330$@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAMHhs6cDMEmvDFVoAS20fHtRg-gsouLgG3zL24_zzyn8RMeACQ@mail.gmail.com>

Several years ago I printed several of the gorgeous color diagrams that Jim
Baen (I think) had painstakingly reproduced as PDF files, which are
scalable. I used a color plotter at work to print the 5 ft x 7 ft and
laminated them. I used gaffer's tape to stick them on the garage wall.
Really great for 70 y/o eyes.

Not sure how much it would costs to get thn done that way at a print shop,
but well worth it, IMO.

On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 3:06 PM Bob Boland via Datsun-roadsters <
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I just found harness diagrams also on 311s.org!
>
>
>
> Thanks for getting me hunting around there!
>
>
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> *From:* rpboland at aol.com <rpboland at aol.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2020 3:21 PM
> *To:* 'Pat Horne' <patintexas at icloud.com>
> *Cc:* 'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net' <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* RE: [Roadsters] 2000 Wiring Harness Info
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks ? I found them including some nifty color ones.  I was also hoping
> for wire lists from the individual harnesses, but I think I can figure them
> out from these augmented drawings.
>
>
>
> Thanks, Bob
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2020 3:17 PM
> *To:* rpboland at aol.com
> *Cc:* datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Roadsters] 2000 Wiring Harness Info
>
>
>
> Found them. 311s.org>tech wiki>Electrical>schematics: wiring diagrams
>
> Pat Horne
>
> We support Habitat for Humanity
>
>
>
>
> On May 12, 2020, at 1:24 PM, Bob Boland via Datsun-roadsters <
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> ?
>
> Hi All,
>
> This is my first time posing to the list but I?ve been a longtime reader.
> My thanks to all who run it and contribute, I?ve found lots of good
> information in the interchanges.
>
>
>
> Does anyone know of a resource with information on the wiring that is
> supposed to be in the various harnesses?
>
> My 2000 has had various ?mods? over the years and I?m trying to sort out
> some of the mess.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob Boland
>
> 1968 Solex 2000
>
> ________________________________________
>
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue May 12 18:00:57 2020
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 17:00:57 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 Wiring Harness Info
In-Reply-To: <CAMHhs6cDMEmvDFVoAS20fHtRg-gsouLgG3zL24_zzyn8RMeACQ@mail.gmail.com>
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From rpboland at aol.com  Wed May 13 12:53:49 2020
From: rpboland at aol.com (rpboland at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 14:53:49 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 12,
 Issue 86 - 2000 Wiring Harness Info
References: <03b601d62957$d7582520$86086f60$.ref@aol.com>
Message-ID: <03b601d62957$d7582520$86086f60$@aol.com>

Hi,
Great idea to go to a printer - I'm lucky enough to have an architect friend
who is doing the large print for me

Thanks, Bob

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Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 17:30:21 -0500
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Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 2000 Wiring Harness Info
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Several years ago I printed several of the gorgeous color diagrams that Jim
Baen (I think) had painstakingly reproduced as PDF files, which are
scalable. I used a color plotter at work to print the 5 ft x 7 ft and
laminated them. I used gaffer's tape to stick them on the garage wall.
Really great for 70 y/o eyes.

Not sure how much it would costs to get thn done that way at a print shop,
but well worth it, IMO.

On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 3:06 PM Bob Boland via Datsun-roadsters <
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I just found harness diagrams also on 311s.org!
>
>
>
> Thanks for getting me hunting around there!
>
>
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> *From:* rpboland at aol.com <rpboland at aol.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2020 3:21 PM
> *To:* 'Pat Horne' <patintexas at icloud.com>
> *Cc:* 'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net' 
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* RE: [Roadsters] 2000 Wiring Harness Info
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks ? I found them including some nifty color ones.  I was also 
> hoping for wire lists from the individual harnesses, but I think I can 
> figure them out from these augmented drawings.
>
>
>
> Thanks, Bob
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2020 3:17 PM
> *To:* rpboland at aol.com
> *Cc:* datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Roadsters] 2000 Wiring Harness Info
>
>
>
> Found them. 311s.org>tech wiki>Electrical>schematics: wiring diagrams
>
> Pat Horne
>
> We support Habitat for Humanity
>
>
>
>
> On May 12, 2020, at 1:24 PM, Bob Boland via Datsun-roadsters < 
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> ?
>
> Hi All,
>
> This is my first time posing to the list but I?ve been a longtime reader.
> My thanks to all who run it and contribute, I?ve found lots of good 
> information in the interchanges.
>
>
>
> Does anyone know of a resource with information on the wiring that is 
> supposed to be in the various harnesses?
>
> My 2000 has had various ?mods? over the years and I?m trying to sort 
> out some of the mess.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob Boland
>
> 1968 Solex 2000
>
> ________________________________________
>
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>
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From mark at bradakis.com  Wed May 13 15:46:13 2020
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 15:46:13 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Possible Team Net outage
Message-ID: <8866b78b-8dd0-78dd-5d5a-30f290509969@bradakis.com>

We had some severe wind gusts in Salt Lake Monday afternoon, about half 
of a large tree blew over, sort of hitting the garage and some cars.? 
Take a look at http://bradakis.com/net_wire.jpg to get an idea of what 
happened.? Inside that marked off area you can see a black wire.? That 
is Team Net's connection to the world. Getting all the fallen branches 
off that wire is beyond my capabilities.? We've contacted some 
professional tree removers, haven't heard back yet, so not sure when the 
mess will be cleaned up.

So basically if we get more wind gusts over the next day or two all that 
debris could shift and take out that network cable.? And Team Net would 
be off the air for who knows how long.? So be aware of that 
possibility.? If it happens, you might be seeing a status message from 
hoosierq at gmail.com that may look suspicious at first glance.? It will be 
from me.

And another note, the old problem of delayed email seems to be occurring 
again.? Currently the delay is one the order of an hour or so, I'll be 
looking into the situation.

Fun times indeed!

mjb.



From charlie at hubco.com  Thu May 14 18:40:54 2020
From: charlie at hubco.com (Charles Hubbard)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 00:40:54 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] 1500 Floor Mats
Message-ID: <8E0F1615-FA08-4F20-8E02-176CE5570C74@hubco.com>

Anyone know where to get a set of Datsun Logo floormats that will work on a 1964 SPL310. Just need the fronts, so if the pans are the same in the later models, I?m good with it.  A 2012 post in the the 311s site refers to logo mats posted by Alvin, but there aren?t any good links.

Respectfully,

Charlie Hubbard
HUBCO Communications, Inc.
Charlie at hubco.com
W: 469.293.3081
M: 214.507.5569


From snolanc2 at gmail.com  Wed May 13 17:54:32 2020
From: snolanc2 at gmail.com (Steve Nolan)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 18:54:32 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Left over parts
Message-ID: <CAHoCVwp9YZz2vSWJ4cK+PzxotJPoP8kgbJz20eRMWQWTV=XZ9w@mail.gmail.com>

Guys, i have sold my 1968 2000 a couple years ago and i still have a couple
parts before i ebay them anyone interested please make me a offer.

*Solex NOS spacer insulator ONLY 1 *

*Mount to move the alt to passenger side of block.*

https://i.imgur.com/djkgV9u.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/bux5jAY.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/eUrD5P4.jpg

Thanks,
Steve Nolan
snolanc2 at gmail.com
630-272-9867-Mobile
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From patintexas at icloud.com  Sun May 17 10:35:52 2020
From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2020 11:35:52 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb cleaner recommendations
Message-ID: <DDD41915-6B64-4B74-9FEE-0E81EEE689EC@icloud.com>

I know that the solvents we used to be able to get did a much Better job than the new stuff. 

I had a old can of chem-dip from the 90?s that worked great. The can finally rusted through & needed replacement. Berryman still lists the chem-dip with the same part number but it isn?t the same stuff. I soaked a fuel pump in it for 12 hours & all it did was slightly soften the grease. The rest of the pump still looks like it did when I put it in. 

Is there a product or home brew today that works?

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne 
We support Habitat for Humanity


From alvingogi at gmail.com  Sun May 17 17:41:46 2020
From: alvingogi at gmail.com (Alvin Gogineni)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2020 16:41:46 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Reunited
Message-ID: <CALmuZ6AHCkWyjhpjTiPAnuOZ+Y2EMG0=HdyNw=1Bbi1F-YhSfQ@mail.gmail.com>

Got both roadsters out on Saturday. My brother in the SPL and myself in
SRL-0248. It's fun to see your roadster rolling...as I'm always filming
someone else's!
http://www.zcarblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/IMG_6814.jpg
http://www.zcarblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/IMG_6817.jpg
http://www.zcarblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/IMG_6809.jpg
http://www.zcarblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/IMG_6781.jpg

Enjoy the Solex Sounds in the video below!
https://youtu.be/qfD_n7xTqgk
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From patintexas at icloud.com  Mon May 18 10:35:47 2020
From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 11:35:47 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Body weight
Message-ID: <1A1B24F9-0F9C-43DE-8F7D-DF1FCDFF2044@icloud.com>

I just met with the guy who is going to do the bodywork on my 67.5. It is stripped to the body & frame & he wants to lift the body off the frame. 

We will brace the door openings but I am concerned about lifting the body. I have an electric chain hoist on a beam in my shop but I don?t know if it is strong enough. It?s rated for 500 lbs. will this work or should we pick up a couple cable come alongs to do the actual lifting? 

Suggestions? Thoughts?

Peace,
Pat


Pat Horne 
We support Habitat for Humanity


From patintexas at icloud.com  Mon May 18 11:21:27 2020
From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 12:21:27 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake line covering
Message-ID: <EEDA2C11-C1C0-4D2C-BF49-744F1BA34DB2@icloud.com>

It?s been decades since I read on this list that the black covering on the front brake lines should be removed to keep the lines from rusting. I dutifully checked mine. Nope, no plastic. 

Today I was getting my car ready for frame off & noticed that the REAR brake lined had the plastic covering! Since it has never been mentioned, does this plastic cause problems on the rear lines? I?m going to take mine off any way. 

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne 
We support Habitat for Humanity


From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Mon May 18 11:40:34 2020
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 12:40:34 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake line covering
In-Reply-To: <EEDA2C11-C1C0-4D2C-BF49-744F1BA34DB2@icloud.com>
References: <EEDA2C11-C1C0-4D2C-BF49-744F1BA34DB2@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <CAMHhs6dt2TqVuBrRrFfc6dk9GbD99CEjC-iGFLDq-gP9TnsNBw@mail.gmail.com>

I'd say probably. The OE hard lines are mild steel so they're subject to
rust, especially with the plastic sleeving. IMO, the only thing that stuff
is good for is trap moisture and rot the hard lines. I think Classic Tubes
in NY is the company that Les says makes a hard line set for the front
calipers. Don't remember if they offer the other hard lines, too. I do
remember that when I replaced one of the hard lines on the rear axle
several years ago I ordered it from Dean.

Regarding your question about picking up the body, I'd suggest looking at
the "H" shaped frames offered by Eastword and other outfits that are
designed to lift pick-up beds. You might be able to fab up your own. Just
remember to add the weight of the frame to your load. And defintely cross
brace the body extensively before you try to lift it.



On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 12:27 PM Pat Horne via Datsun-roadsters <
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:

> It?s been decades since I read on this list that the black covering on the
> front brake lines should be removed to keep the lines from rusting. I
> dutifully checked mine. Nope, no plastic.
>
> Today I was getting my car ready for frame off & noticed that the REAR
> brake lined had the plastic covering! Since it has never been mentioned,
> does this plastic cause problems on the rear lines? I?m going to take mine
> off any way.
>
> Peace,
> Pat
>
> Pat Horne
> We support Habitat for Humanity
>
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From davesmbox at aol.com  Mon May 18 11:57:48 2020
From: davesmbox at aol.com (DAVID MURPHY)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 13:57:48 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Body weight
In-Reply-To: <1A1B24F9-0F9C-43DE-8F7D-DF1FCDFF2044@icloud.com>
References: <1A1B24F9-0F9C-43DE-8F7D-DF1FCDFF2044@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <21D25B2F-B051-47A2-A041-4082C67C6064@aol.com>

4 guys can. Lift the body and walk around 
At least when I was 32. Not sure about now when I am 64
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 18, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Pat Horne via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I just met with the guy who is going to do the bodywork on my 67.5. It is stripped to the body & frame & he wants to lift the body off the frame. 
> 
> We will brace the door openings but I am concerned about lifting the body. I have an electric chain hoist on a beam in my shop but I don?t know if it is strong enough. It?s rated for 500 lbs. will this work or should we pick up a couple cable come alongs to do the actual lifting? 
> 
> Suggestions? Thoughts?
> 
> Peace,
> Pat
> 
> 
> Pat Horne 
> We support Habitat for Humanity
> 
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> 
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From davesmbox at aol.com  Mon May 18 11:57:48 2020
From: davesmbox at aol.com (DAVID MURPHY)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 13:57:48 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Body weight
In-Reply-To: <1A1B24F9-0F9C-43DE-8F7D-DF1FCDFF2044@icloud.com>
References: <1A1B24F9-0F9C-43DE-8F7D-DF1FCDFF2044@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <21D25B2F-B051-47A2-A041-4082C67C6064@aol.com>

4 guys can. Lift the body and walk around 
At least when I was 32. Not sure about now when I am 64
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 18, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Pat Horne via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I just met with the guy who is going to do the bodywork on my 67.5. It is stripped to the body & frame & he wants to lift the body off the frame. 
> 
> We will brace the door openings but I am concerned about lifting the body. I have an electric chain hoist on a beam in my shop but I don?t know if it is strong enough. It?s rated for 500 lbs. will this work or should we pick up a couple cable come alongs to do the actual lifting? 
> 
> Suggestions? Thoughts?
> 
> Peace,
> Pat
> 
> 
> Pat Horne 
> We support Habitat for Humanity
> 
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> 
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From jover4x4 at aol.com  Mon May 18 12:07:36 2020
From: jover4x4 at aol.com (John Over)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 12:07:36 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Body weight
In-Reply-To: <21D25B2F-B051-47A2-A041-4082C67C6064@aol.com>
References: <21D25B2F-B051-47A2-A041-4082C67C6064@aol.com>
Message-ID: <A8A78356-C137-4067-BC78-EDA45D7ADE5E@aol.com>

I second that 4 guys can lift the body.  I would say it is every bit of 500 lbs depending on how stripped it is.

I would consider removing w your 500lb hoist as long as you take safety precautions and lift slowly safely and stay out from under the load.  I have used a cherry picker / engine hoist before too and lifted with the seat belt holes in the tunnel which are fairly close to center of gravity.  You will want a supporter on each end regardless to keep level and to steady and watch as you lift.  Ensure all bolts and all electrical are detached.  

Good luck

John Over

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 18, 2020, at 12:00 PM, DAVID MURPHY via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?4 guys can. Lift the body and walk around 
> At least when I was 32. Not sure about now when I am 64
> Dave
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 18, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Pat Horne via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?I just met with the guy who is going to do the bodywork on my 67.5. It is stripped to the body & frame & he wants to lift the body off the frame. 
>> 
>> We will brace the door openings but I am concerned about lifting the body. I have an electric chain hoist on a beam in my shop but I don?t know if it is strong enough. It?s rated for 500 lbs. will this work or should we pick up a couple cable come alongs to do the actual lifting? 
>> 
>> Suggestions? Thoughts?
>> 
>> Peace,
>> Pat
>> 
>> 
>> Pat Horne 
>> We support Habitat for Humanity
>> 
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>> 
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From jover4x4 at aol.com  Mon May 18 12:07:36 2020
From: jover4x4 at aol.com (John Over)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 12:07:36 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Body weight
In-Reply-To: <21D25B2F-B051-47A2-A041-4082C67C6064@aol.com>
References: <21D25B2F-B051-47A2-A041-4082C67C6064@aol.com>
Message-ID: <A8A78356-C137-4067-BC78-EDA45D7ADE5E@aol.com>

I second that 4 guys can lift the body.  I would say it is every bit of 500 lbs depending on how stripped it is.

I would consider removing w your 500lb hoist as long as you take safety precautions and lift slowly safely and stay out from under the load.  I have used a cherry picker / engine hoist before too and lifted with the seat belt holes in the tunnel which are fairly close to center of gravity.  You will want a supporter on each end regardless to keep level and to steady and watch as you lift.  Ensure all bolts and all electrical are detached.  

Good luck

John Over

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 18, 2020, at 12:00 PM, DAVID MURPHY via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?4 guys can. Lift the body and walk around 
> At least when I was 32. Not sure about now when I am 64
> Dave
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 18, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Pat Horne via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?I just met with the guy who is going to do the bodywork on my 67.5. It is stripped to the body & frame & he wants to lift the body off the frame. 
>> 
>> We will brace the door openings but I am concerned about lifting the body. I have an electric chain hoist on a beam in my shop but I don?t know if it is strong enough. It?s rated for 500 lbs. will this work or should we pick up a couple cable come alongs to do the actual lifting? 
>> 
>> Suggestions? Thoughts?
>> 
>> Peace,
>> Pat
>> 
>> 
>> Pat Horne 
>> We support Habitat for Humanity
>> 
>> ________________________________________
>> 
>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>> 
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From sewebberlaw at gmail.com  Wed May 20 20:50:48 2020
From: sewebberlaw at gmail.com (Stephen Webber)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 19:50:48 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb cleaner recommendations
In-Reply-To: <DDD41915-6B64-4B74-9FEE-0E81EEE689EC@icloud.com>
References: <DDD41915-6B64-4B74-9FEE-0E81EEE689EC@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <CAM_ShUPyK74vH6bjFQ8X1cQn4JT=z9CuQcS+k1iTatgerfmY+A@mail.gmail.com>

Try toluene.  It is flame-able and bad to breath.  Must use in an open
space.   White water rafters use it to clean boats before repairing.  Shops
such as Northwest River Supply in Moscow, Idaho sells it in quart
containers.  Otherwise it is hard to find because of the danger it poses.

STEVE  WEBBER

On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 9:46 AM Pat Horne via Datsun-roadsters <
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I know that the solvents we used to be able to get did a much Better job
> than the new stuff.
>
> I had a old can of chem-dip from the 90?s that worked great. The can
> finally rusted through & needed replacement. Berryman still lists the
> chem-dip with the same part number but it isn?t the same stuff. I soaked a
> fuel pump in it for 12 hours & all it did was slightly soften the grease.
> The rest of the pump still looks like it did when I put it in.
>
> Is there a product or home brew today that works?
>
> Peace,
> Pat
>
> Pat Horne
> We support Habitat for Humanity
>
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From charlie at hubco.com  Thu May 21 06:15:46 2020
From: charlie at hubco.com (Charles Hubbard)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 12:15:46 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb cleaner recommendations
In-Reply-To: <CAM_ShUPyK74vH6bjFQ8X1cQn4JT=z9CuQcS+k1iTatgerfmY+A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DDD41915-6B64-4B74-9FEE-0E81EEE689EC@icloud.com>,
 <CAM_ShUPyK74vH6bjFQ8X1cQn4JT=z9CuQcS+k1iTatgerfmY+A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BFFC373D-9D0A-4087-B754-5E137EE2C032@hubco.com>

Pat,

I use Berryman B-12 Chemtool Spray can. Isn?t the chem-dip a diluted version of the dip?

Respectfully,

Charlie Hubbard
1964 SPL310


On May 20, 2020, at 9:53 PM, Stephen Webber via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net<mailto:datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>> wrote:

Try toluene.  It is flame-able and bad to breath.  Must use in an open space.   White water rafters use it to clean boats before repairing.  Shops such as Northwest River Supply in Moscow, Idaho sells it in quart containers.  Otherwise it is hard to find because of the danger it poses.

STEVE  WEBBER

On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 9:46 AM Pat Horne via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net<mailto:datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>> wrote:
I know that the solvents we used to be able to get did a much Better job than the new stuff.

I had a old can of chem-dip from the 90?s that worked great. The can finally rusted through & needed replacement. Berryman still lists the chem-dip with the same part number but it isn?t the same stuff. I soaked a fuel pump in it for 12 hours & all it did was slightly soften the grease. The rest of the pump still looks like it did when I put it in.

Is there a product or home brew today that works?

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne
We support Habitat for Humanity

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From markmiller at threeboysfarm.com  Thu May 21 17:35:24 2020
From: markmiller at threeboysfarm.com (Mark Miller)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 16:35:24 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb cleaner recommendations
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9.1590084002.8775.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.9.1590084002.8775.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <96750c3f-89fa-0eae-6ab9-47d99b577004@threeboysfarm.com>

McMaster Carr will send it to you:

https://www.mcmaster.com/toluene

Regards,

Mark Miller   707-490-5834
markmiller at threeboysfarm.com


> Try toluene.  It is flame-able and bad to breath.  Must use in an open
> space.   White water rafters use it to clean boats before repairing.  Shops
> such as Northwest River Supply in Moscow, Idaho sells it in quart
> containers.  Otherwise it is hard to find because of the danger it poses.
>
> STEVE  WEBBER
>
>

From patintexas at icloud.com  Fri May 22 10:19:45 2020
From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2020 11:19:45 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Trying to identify a couple parts
Message-ID: <4D4935A0-D79C-475D-B568-99C63B98507E@icloud.com>

Digging through my parts stash & ive run into a couple parts I can?t identify. 

First is new in a Nissan bag, part number  32889 14600. It looks to be a phenolic bushing. I bought 4 so I suspect they are used in pairs. Possibly a shifter pin bushing? I?ve found other shifter parts. 
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Hope all are well. 

Peace,
Pat

We support Habitat for Humanity


From futofab at gsinet.net  Fri May 22 10:45:45 2020
From: futofab at gsinet.net (David Patten)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2020 12:45:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] 68 2000 Roadster at Hemmings
Message-ID: <522538649.90697236.1590165945858.JavaMail.zimbra@gsinet.net>

No connection to seller, 

1968 Datsun 2000 Roadster, located in SC, $3500 OBO 
[ https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/datsun/2000/2403311.html?refer=alert&utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-05-22 | https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/datsun/2000/2403311.html?refer=alert&utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-05-22 ] 

Dave Patten, Owner 

FutoFab, LLC 
199 Stark Hwy So 
Dunbarton, NH 03046-4411 

[ http://futofab.com/ | www.FutoFab.com ] 
email - FutoFab at gsinet.net 
Telephone - (603) 774-6964 
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Fri May 22 11:24:03 2020
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2020 10:24:03 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Trying to identify a couple parts
In-Reply-To: <4D4935A0-D79C-475D-B568-99C63B98507E@icloud.com>
References: <4D4935A0-D79C-475D-B568-99C63B98507E@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <7659fe65-6d41-9af7-7332-a781fd2f2f48@comcast.net>

Good guess! 32889-14600 Bush - Control Pin. Used for both 4-speed and 
5-speed. It's #58 in this diagram.

On 5/22/2020 9:19 AM, Pat Horne via Datsun-roadsters wrote:
> Digging through my parts stash & ive run into a couple parts I can?t identify.
>
> First is new in a Nissan bag, part number  32889 14600. It looks to be a phenolic bushing. I bought 4 so I suspect they are used in pairs. Possibly a shifter pin bushing? I?ve found other shifter parts.
>
>
> Second is a part I have no idea on. It may not be for a Datsun. My first thought was a clip for seat webbing but it doesn?t match any of my seats.
>
>
> Hope all are well.
>
> Peace,
> Pat
>
> We support Habitat for Humanity
>
>
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From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Fri May 22 11:32:05 2020
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2020 13:32:05 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Trying to identify a couple parts
In-Reply-To: <4D4935A0-D79C-475D-B568-99C63B98507E@icloud.com>
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https://jp-carparts.com/search.php?part_number=32889+14600

Maker Parts Number Parts Name
nissan 32889-14600
<https://jp-carparts.com/nissan/part_search.php?maker=nissan&part1=32889&part2=14600>
BUSH,CONTROL
PIN

On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 12:43 PM Pat Horne via Datsun-roadsters <
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Digging through my parts stash & ive run into a couple parts I can?t
> identify.
>
> First is new in a Nissan bag, part number  32889 14600. It looks to be a
> phenolic bushing. I bought 4 so I suspect they are used in pairs. Possibly
> a shifter pin bushing? I?ve found other shifter parts.
>
>
> Second is a part I have no idea on. It may not be for a Datsun. My first
> thought was a clip for seat webbing but it doesn?t match any of my seats.
>
>
> Hope all are well.
>
> Peace,
> Pat
>
> We support Habitat for Humanity
>
> ________________________________________
>
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Fri May 22 16:04:28 2020
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2020 15:04:28 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 68 2000 Roadster at Hemmings
In-Reply-To: <522538649.90697236.1590165945858.JavaMail.zimbra@gsinet.net>
References: <522538649.90697236.1590165945858.JavaMail.zimbra@gsinet.net>
Message-ID: <1d42fc0c-6cf9-8d9c-0339-5fa41109bd9a@comcast.net>

Looks like a good restoration candidate.

On 5/22/2020 9:45 AM, David Patten via Datsun-roadsters wrote:
> No connection to seller,
>
> 1968 Datsun 2000 Roadster, located in SC, $3500 OBO
> https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/datsun/2000/2403311.html?refer=alert&utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-05-22
>
> Dave Patten, Owner
>
> *FutoFab, LLC*
> 199 Stark Hwy So
> Dunbarton, NH 03046-4411
>
> www.FutoFab.com <http://futofab.com/>
> email - FutoFab at gsinet.net
> Telephone - (603) 774-6964
> Facebook - FutoFab LLC
>
>
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From alvingogi at gmail.com  Fri May 22 18:04:04 2020
From: alvingogi at gmail.com (Alvin Gogineni)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2020 17:04:04 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Fairlady Friday
Message-ID: <CALmuZ6AAFBLOW1Y_89NGsrutFZo_SfOKF5wWpAK-f5iYnY06og@mail.gmail.com>

Monterey Bay, CA
http://www.zcarblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/IMG_7495a.jpg
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From funkaholik at yahoo.com  Sat May 23 18:59:14 2020
From: funkaholik at yahoo.com (Erik Miller)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2020 17:59:14 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 68 2000 Roadster at Hemmings
Message-ID: <mailman.147.1590281963.2961.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>

Hard to tell extent if rust from the photos, but looks like the car is worth more than the asking price in parts alone. Love the British racing green. Back in the 90's I took all the emblems off my 1600 and drove it all over like that. Hardly anyone knew what kind of car it was and would always ask if it was an MG, except for Datsun aficionados,? of course. My plan at the time was to paint it BRG just to add to the confusion of the uneducated.
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From cppcastronovo at gmail.com  Sun May 24 09:27:55 2020
From: cppcastronovo at gmail.com (Arthur Castronovo)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2020 08:27:55 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 69 Roadster brake master cylinder
Message-ID: <CABYpuW18BbYaH8zxKdNd-ML6DH+X75Tp=dRCgxJczBwFBmcHKg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi There. Been a while since I posted a question so I hope I?m doing this
correctly.
I?m installing a new brake master cylinder on my 69 roadster. I think a
recall seeing an article about bench priming it first. Is this necessary?
If so, can someone share an article or instructions. Thanks in advance for
your help. Art
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From patintexas at icloud.com  Sun May 24 09:56:09 2020
From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2020 10:56:09 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 69 Roadster brake master cylinder
In-Reply-To: <CABYpuW18BbYaH8zxKdNd-ML6DH+X75Tp=dRCgxJczBwFBmcHKg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABYpuW18BbYaH8zxKdNd-ML6DH+X75Tp=dRCgxJczBwFBmcHKg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.148.1590335772.2961.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>

Art,

Bench priming isn?t necessary but quite helpful.

The purpose of bench bleeding is to get the air out of the master cylinder before you connect it up. If you put a totally empty master cylinder into the car then try bleeding the brakes you will pump a lot of air into the system which will waste a lot of fluid before all the air is out. 

There are two ways to bench bleed the cylinder that I know of. One is to use a vacuum pump to pull the fluid into the cylinder to get the air out. This works pretty good but the second way works better. The second way is to make some short lengths of brake line that screw into the master cylinder & are bent to have the other end of the line over the reservoir so that as the fluid fills the cylinder it will be put back into the reservoir while the air escapes. The fastest way would probably be a combination of the two, pump first, then the recirculating lines. 

The ?bench bleeding? can be done either on the bench or in the car with the brake lines disconnected. The biggest thing to watch for is that the brake fluid in the reservoir doesn?t get down far enough that you pull air into cylinder.

Peace,
Pat

We support Habitat for Humanity
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From: Arthur Castronovo via Datsun-roadsters
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 10:28 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] 69 Roadster brake master cylinder

Hi There. Been a while since I posted a question so I hope I?m doing this correctly.?
I?m installing a new brake master cylinder on my 69 roadster. I think a recall seeing an article about bench priming it first. Is this necessary? If so, can someone share an article or instructions. Thanks in?advance for your help. Art?

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From cppcastronovo at gmail.com  Sun May 24 11:02:20 2020
From: cppcastronovo at gmail.com (Arthur Castronovo)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2020 10:02:20 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 69 Roadster brake master cylinder
In-Reply-To: <5eca991b.1c69fb81.3b2bb.e6dfSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com>
References: <CABYpuW18BbYaH8zxKdNd-ML6DH+X75Tp=dRCgxJczBwFBmcHKg@mail.gmail.com>
 <5eca991b.1c69fb81.3b2bb.e6dfSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <CABYpuW2FF+UOrm4JEVHPV-R6_NB9evOE3X2rT5U=+nxem6we6Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Pat -

Thank you so much for the quick reply! Really appreciate it?

Regards,
Art

On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 8:56 AM Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com> wrote:

> Art,
>
>
>
> Bench priming isn?t necessary but quite helpful.
>
>
>
> The purpose of bench bleeding is to get the air out of the master cylinder
> before you connect it up. If you put a totally empty master cylinder into
> the car then try bleeding the brakes you will pump a lot of air into the
> system which will waste a lot of fluid before all the air is out.
>
>
>
> There are two ways to bench bleed the cylinder that I know of. One is to
> use a vacuum pump to pull the fluid into the cylinder to get the air out.
> This works pretty good but the second way works better. The second way is
> to make some short lengths of brake line that screw into the master
> cylinder & are bent to have the other end of the line over the reservoir so
> that as the fluid fills the cylinder it will be put back into the reservoir
> while the air escapes. The fastest way would probably be a combination of
> the two, pump first, then the recirculating lines.
>
>
>
> The ?bench bleeding? can be done either on the bench or in the car with
> the brake lines disconnected. The biggest thing to watch for is that the
> brake fluid in the reservoir doesn?t get down far enough that you pull air
> into cylinder.
>
>
>
> Peace,
>
> Pat
>
>
>
> We support Habitat for Humanity
>
> A hand UP not a hand OUT
>
>
>
> *From: *Arthur Castronovo via Datsun-roadsters
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> *Sent: *Sunday, May 24, 2020 10:28 AM
> *To: *datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> *Subject: *[Roadsters] 69 Roadster brake master cylinder
>
>
>
> Hi There. Been a while since I posted a question so I hope I?m doing this
> correctly.
>
> I?m installing a new brake master cylinder on my 69 roadster. I think a
> recall seeing an article about bench priming it first. Is this necessary?
> If so, can someone share an article or instructions. Thanks in advance for
> your help. Art
>
>
>
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From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Mon May 18 15:14:17 2020
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 21:14:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Body weight
In-Reply-To: <21D25B2F-B051-47A2-A041-4082C67C6064@aol.com>
References: <1A1B24F9-0F9C-43DE-8F7D-DF1FCDFF2044@icloud.com>
 <21D25B2F-B051-47A2-A041-4082C67C6064@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1702279668.1113089.1589836457043@mail.yahoo.com>

I've done it with just 2, but the body was stripped, and we moved it a very short distance.?
S675MIZU

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 11:01, DAVID MURPHY via Datsun-roadsters<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:   4 guys can. Lift the body and walk around 
At least when I was 32. Not sure about now when I am 64
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 18, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Pat Horne via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I just met with the guy who is going to do the bodywork on my 67.5. It is stripped to the body & frame & he wants to lift the body off the frame. 
> 
> We will brace the door openings but I am concerned about lifting the body. I have an electric chain hoist on a beam in my shop but I don?t know if it is strong enough. It?s rated for 500 lbs. will this work or should we pick up a couple cable come alongs to do the actual lifting? 
> 
> Suggestions? Thoughts?
> 
> Peace,
> Pat
> 
> 
> Pat Horne 
> We support Habitat for Humanity
> 
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From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Mon May 18 15:14:17 2020
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 21:14:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Body weight
In-Reply-To: <21D25B2F-B051-47A2-A041-4082C67C6064@aol.com>
References: <1A1B24F9-0F9C-43DE-8F7D-DF1FCDFF2044@icloud.com>
 <21D25B2F-B051-47A2-A041-4082C67C6064@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1702279668.1113089.1589836457043@mail.yahoo.com>

I've done it with just 2, but the body was stripped, and we moved it a very short distance.?
S675MIZU

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 11:01, DAVID MURPHY via Datsun-roadsters<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:   4 guys can. Lift the body and walk around 
At least when I was 32. Not sure about now when I am 64
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 18, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Pat Horne via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I just met with the guy who is going to do the bodywork on my 67.5. It is stripped to the body & frame & he wants to lift the body off the frame. 
> 
> We will brace the door openings but I am concerned about lifting the body. I have an electric chain hoist on a beam in my shop but I don?t know if it is strong enough. It?s rated for 500 lbs. will this work or should we pick up a couple cable come alongs to do the actual lifting? 
> 
> Suggestions? Thoughts?
> 
> Peace,
> Pat
> 
> 
> Pat Horne 
> We support Habitat for Humanity
> 
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> 
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From patintexas at icloud.com  Fri May 29 13:57:08 2020
From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 14:57:08 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for fender part
Message-ID: <C6D3E139-24F8-4162-88AA-42DE25679AA8@icloud.com>

I?m in the process of bringing one of my 67.5s back to life. I?m looking for the front foot of a 67.5-69 right front fender that is straight & no bondo. 

I?ve tried a couple of out vendors but have not received return calls within a week. Anyone happen to have one available?

This lock down is giving me time to move this project up to the front burner. 

Keep well. 

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne 
We support Habitat for Humanity


From rod at rodsdatsun.com  Fri May 29 15:40:52 2020
From: rod at rodsdatsun.com (Rod Eaton)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 14:40:52 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for fender part
Message-ID: <vwforvoa3d07uqlh301v3to5.1590788452892@email.android.com>

$500.00? if I have one.Rod Eaton Rodsdatsun.com Rod at rodsdatsun.com?1-408-314-3006Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Pat Horne via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: 5/29/20  12:57 PM  (GMT-08:00) To: Datsun list <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for fender part I?m in the process of bringing one of my 67.5s back to life. I?m looking for the front foot of a 67.5-69 right front fender that is straight & no bondo. I?ve tried a couple of out vendors but have not received return calls within a week. Anyone happen to have one available?This lock down is giving me time to move this project up to the front burner. Keep well. Peace,PatPat Horne We support Habitat for Humanity________________________________________datsun-roadsters at autox.team.netDonate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/datsun-roadsters http://autox.team.net/archiveUnsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rod at rodsdatsun.com
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From alvingogi at gmail.com  Fri May 29 16:15:52 2020
From: alvingogi at gmail.com (Alvin Gogineni)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 15:15:52 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Turbocharged U20 Roadster
Message-ID: <CALmuZ6Dz-AA1U=gaWuxCr4HKN+ctb=qSE0WGej4do-sbm42XvA@mail.gmail.com>

#FairladyFriday

I had only seen one turbocharged U20 in person (Mark's) but this one is new
to me.
Check out the draw-through SU setup!
http://www.zcarblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/100794732_134722768188559_6897288345718620160_o.jpg
http://www.zcarblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/100742999_134722694855233_1194291505775247360_o.jpg
http://www.zcarblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/100085207_134722688188567_653950986049552384_o.jpg

You can see more and lots of parts for sale on Mike/Jenny Kerr's website:
https://www.facebook.com/useddatsunroadsterparts/
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From jsk977 at optonline.net  Sat May 30 07:59:35 2020
From: jsk977 at optonline.net (Jerry Krakauer)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2020 09:59:35 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Turbocharged U20 Roadster
In-Reply-To: <CALmuZ6Dz-AA1U=gaWuxCr4HKN+ctb=qSE0WGej4do-sbm42XvA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALmuZ6Dz-AA1U=gaWuxCr4HKN+ctb=qSE0WGej4do-sbm42XvA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <008701d6368a$8e13b010$aa3b1030$@optonline.net>

Drawing through the SU reminds me of the Judson vane type supercharges form the 60s. Made for many British sports cars, Volvos and even VW. Required reuse of one of the usual OEM 2 SUs.

 

Jerry Krakauer

SRL311 00099

 

From: Datsun-roadsters [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alvin Gogineni via Datsun-roadsters
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 6:16 PM
To: datsun-roadsters
Subject: [Roadsters] Turbocharged U20 Roadster

 

#FairladyFriday


I had only seen one turbocharged U20 in person (Mark's) but this one is new to me. 

Check out the draw-through SU setup!
http://www.zcarblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/100794732_134722768188559_6897288345718620160_o.jpg
http://www.zcarblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/100742999_134722694855233_1194291505775247360_o.jpg
http://www.zcarblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/100085207_134722688188567_653950986049552384_o.jpg

You can see more and lots of parts for sale on Mike/Jenny Kerr's website:
https://www.facebook.com/useddatsunroadsterparts/

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From RWM at RWMann.com  Sat May 30 16:02:22 2020
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2020 18:02:22 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Light Switch Stop Nut
Message-ID: <A1B5F13D-1EEC-4E50-B603-230286612F88@RWMann.com>


Had intermittent to no brake lights at recent annual inspection, traced to a failed switch.  Sourced switch and snubber.

Test fitting the new brake light switch fixed the brake light problem, and the remnants of a crystalized snubber fell off when removing the defective switch housing and stop nut.

Now the issue is how to get the 14mm stop nut that should be forward of the bracket, started on the threaded portion of the new switch housing that goes through the bracket from aft forward. Blind location and fat fingers don't help. 

Tips and tricks?

I will leave the new snubber off for the time being given I cannot see where it came from or where it should go, unless there are also tips and tricks for visualizing and replacing that.

Thanks.

- Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex
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From patintexas at icloud.com  Sat May 30 17:29:20 2020
From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2020 18:29:20 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Light Switch Stop Nut
In-Reply-To: <A1B5F13D-1EEC-4E50-B603-230286612F88@RWMann.com>
References: <A1B5F13D-1EEC-4E50-B603-230286612F88@RWMann.com>
Message-ID: <6DACF3D7-4EEC-4910-B542-34C5FC7018DF@icloud.com>

Try holding the nut against the bracket & try screwing the disconnected switch into the bracket & nut. 

Do you have any young(er) neighbors who might fit in easier. 

Finally, remove the driver?s seat to give yourself more room. 

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne 
We support Habitat for Humanity


On May 30, 2020, at 5:02 PM, RWM via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
Had intermittent to no brake lights at recent annual inspection, traced to a failed switch.  Sourced switch and snubber.

Test fitting the new brake light switch fixed the brake light problem, and the remnants of a crystalized snubber fell off when removing the defective switch housing and stop nut.

Now the issue is how to get the 14mm stop nut that should be forward of the bracket, started on the threaded portion of the new switch housing that goes through the bracket from aft forward. Blind location and fat fingers don't help. 

Tips and tricks?

I will leave the new snubber off for the time being given I cannot see where it came from or where it should go, unless there are also tips and tricks for visualizing and replacing that.

Thanks.

- Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex
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From RWM at RWMann.com  Sat May 30 20:09:15 2020
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2020 22:09:15 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Light Switch Stop Nut
In-Reply-To: <6DACF3D7-4EEC-4910-B542-34C5FC7018DF@icloud.com>
References: <6DACF3D7-4EEC-4910-B542-34C5FC7018DF@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <9EA933BF-45AA-4F08-8A11-F8806C8CF4C4@RWMann.com>

Spent the afternoon trying that, Pat, to no avail. Steering wheel removed, head and hand in the footbox.

Will get into it again tomorrow with renewed vigor. 

Thanks.

- Bob

Sent from an iPad

> On May 30, 2020, at 19:29, Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Try holding the nut against the bracket & try screwing the disconnected switch into the bracket & nut. 
> 
> Do you have any young(er) neighbors who might fit in easier. 
> 
> Finally, remove the driver?s seat to give yourself more room. 
> 
> Peace,
> Pat
> 
> Pat Horne 
> We support Habitat for Humanity
> 
> 
> On May 30, 2020, at 5:02 PM, RWM via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Had intermittent to no brake lights at recent annual inspection, traced to a failed switch.  Sourced switch and snubber.
> 
> Test fitting the new brake light switch fixed the brake light problem, and the remnants of a crystalized snubber fell off when removing the defective switch housing and stop nut.
> 
> Now the issue is how to get the 14mm stop nut that should be forward of the bracket, started on the threaded portion of the new switch housing that goes through the bracket from aft forward. Blind location and fat fingers don't help. 
> 
> Tips and tricks?
> 
> I will leave the new snubber off for the time being given I cannot see where it came from or where it should go, unless there are also tips and tricks for visualizing and replacing that.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex
> ________________________________________
> 
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> 
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/datsun-roadsters http://autox.team.net/archive
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From RWM at RWMann.com  Sun May 31 09:56:44 2020
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2020 11:56:44 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Light Switch Stop Nut
In-Reply-To: <9EA933BF-45AA-4F08-8A11-F8806C8CF4C4@RWMann.com>
References: <9EA933BF-45AA-4F08-8A11-F8806C8CF4C4@RWMann.com>
Message-ID: <29EFD9C7-6D48-4A95-8D67-B4D7DF9C2B5F@RWMann.com>

Finally got the stop nut on and adjusted. 

Key was using a brake pedal prop rod to create just enough room behind the switch bracket to get the stop nut positioned, then rotating the switch to take up slack and adjust the bite point.

Thanks to all, for the suggestions and encouragement!

- Bob

Sent from an iPad

> On May 30, 2020, at 22:14, RWM <RWM at rwmann.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Spent the afternoon trying that, Pat, to no avail. Steering wheel removed, head and hand in the footbox.
> 
> Will get into it again tomorrow with renewed vigor. 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> - Bob
> 
> Sent from an iPad
> 
>>> On May 30, 2020, at 19:29, Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?Try holding the nut against the bracket & try screwing the disconnected switch into the bracket & nut. 
>> 
>> Do you have any young(er) neighbors who might fit in easier. 
>> 
>> Finally, remove the driver?s seat to give yourself more room. 
>> 
>> Peace,
>> Pat
>> 
>> Pat Horne 
>> We support Habitat for Humanity
>> 
>> 
>> On May 30, 2020, at 5:02 PM, RWM via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> Had intermittent to no brake lights at recent annual inspection, traced to a failed switch.  Sourced switch and snubber.
>> 
>> Test fitting the new brake light switch fixed the brake light problem, and the remnants of a crystalized snubber fell off when removing the defective switch housing and stop nut.
>> 
>> Now the issue is how to get the 14mm stop nut that should be forward of the bracket, started on the threaded portion of the new switch housing that goes through the bracket from aft forward. Blind location and fat fingers don't help. 
>> 
>> Tips and tricks?
>> 
>> I will leave the new snubber off for the time being given I cannot see where it came from or where it should go, unless there are also tips and tricks for visualizing and replacing that.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex
>> ________________________________________
>> 
>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>> 
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/datsun-roadsters http://autox.team.net/archive
>> 
>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/patintexas at icloud.com
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From patintexas at icloud.com  Sun May 31 11:02:37 2020
From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2020 12:02:37 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Light Switch Stop Nut
In-Reply-To: <29EFD9C7-6D48-4A95-8D67-B4D7DF9C2B5F@RWMann.com>
References: <29EFD9C7-6D48-4A95-8D67-B4D7DF9C2B5F@RWMann.com>
Message-ID: <EC979FFC-63F3-4293-8FBF-1CBD850C25DF@icloud.com>

Great!

Have a safe day. 

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne 
We support Habitat for Humanity


On May 31, 2020, at 10:56 AM, RWM <RWM at rwmann.com> wrote:

?Finally got the stop nut on and adjusted. 

Key was using a brake pedal prop rod to create just enough room behind the switch bracket to get the stop nut positioned, then rotating the switch to take up slack and adjust the bite point.

Thanks to all, for the suggestions and encouragement!

- Bob

Sent from an iPad

>> On May 30, 2020, at 22:14, RWM <RWM at rwmann.com> wrote:
>> 
> ?Spent the afternoon trying that, Pat, to no avail. Steering wheel removed, head and hand in the footbox.
> 
> Will get into it again tomorrow with renewed vigor. 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> - Bob
> 
> Sent from an iPad
> 
>>> On May 30, 2020, at 19:29, Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?Try holding the nut against the bracket & try screwing the disconnected switch into the bracket & nut. 
>> 
>> Do you have any young(er) neighbors who might fit in easier. 
>> 
>> Finally, remove the driver?s seat to give yourself more room. 
>> 
>> Peace,
>> Pat
>> 
>> Pat Horne 
>> We support Habitat for Humanity
>> 
>> 
>> On May 30, 2020, at 5:02 PM, RWM via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> Had intermittent to no brake lights at recent annual inspection, traced to a failed switch.  Sourced switch and snubber.
>> 
>> Test fitting the new brake light switch fixed the brake light problem, and the remnants of a crystalized snubber fell off when removing the defective switch housing and stop nut.
>> 
>> Now the issue is how to get the 14mm stop nut that should be forward of the bracket, started on the threaded portion of the new switch housing that goes through the bracket from aft forward. Blind location and fat fingers don't help. 
>> 
>> Tips and tricks?
>> 
>> I will leave the new snubber off for the time being given I cannot see where it came from or where it should go, unless there are also tips and tricks for visualizing and replacing that.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex
>> ________________________________________
>> 
>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>> 
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/datsun-roadsters http://autox.team.net/archive
>> 
>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/patintexas at icloud.com
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