[Roadsters] Fender question

[Pat Horne]

Ok, thanks. Maybe the differences Is the side market lights or lack there of. 

I’m getting too old to keep all this information in my head. Anyone know where I can get a bigger one?

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne 
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On Jun 2, 2020, at 6:23 PM, orangedawg orangedawg <orangedawg at hotmail.com> wrote:


Here is some info I found on Rallye about different fenders/sizes:

Front Fenders vary in the size of the flare, the park light hole, and what the shape of the side marker light hole is, if any. Emblem holes, (if predrilled), may be different on some years. Some fenders were drilled for other countries or not drilled at all. Although some people feel the shape of the rear upper end of the fenders where they hit the cowl and upper part of the door is different between 68-70 and older cars, there seems to be as much difference between one 68 fender to another 68 or from one 67 1/2 fender to another 67 1/2 as there is between a 67 1/2 and a 68! The rear most part of the 63-64 and 65 1500 fenders differ, although NOS replacement fenders have had only one of the styles for at least 28 years. (Pics and Info) Fenders depending on production run also can vary around headlight area as well. It was not intentional, they just vary due to inadequate quality control. The headlight rims themselves can vary a lot. Always fit the headlight scoop to the fender before painting the fender. Don't assume the mounting holes (if they are already there) for the headlight scoop trims are in the best place. I did have a body shop tell me one time it was easy to flare the 1500 fender into a medium flare 65-67 1600 fender than it was to "deflare" a later fender to work on the earlier 1600. But that was just one person's opinion.


The last time we did a warehouse reshuffling I pulled a large number of new fenders and doors out and had a couple of people try to find differences. We also recently hung a few on undamaged cars. We found far more variance in the SAME part than we did from one year's part to another year's. We compared new parts to new parts, new to used and used to used. If you look at a bunch of 65 and 66 cars that all would have the "older" point shape, they vary also.
Hanging the same fender on multiple same year undamaged cars gives different results also. The way body panels fit on the roadster isn't that precise. There are what I could see as different "point shapes" on the rear upper part of the fender, (different angles, curves), but I found all these different "shapes" on 68-70 fenders and all of them on 63-67 1/2 fenders. For each year we found some that were more blunt, or more "pointed", and some that more of a two step curve as the fender heads down the door line. I almost wonder if the rearmost upper "tip" of the fender was hand formed after pulling the fender out of the forming tool, with the variances we found. All of the fenders are the exact same length from rear most upper point tip to the headlight edge. The mounting position of the fender is a tad bit different though. Starting on the 68 models, when the cowl and windshield were changed, the upper rear most hanging bracket was altered. Unlike the nut on the older cars, which was fixed, the nut on the 68-70 cars was made to float in it's receptacle to allow a little fender position adjustment. At it's maximum "outward-mounting" position though, it still forces the fender inward 1/4 inch from the 67 1/2's. The change in the nut location may be the only consistant difference between a 67 1/2 fender and a 68.

So right off the bat, all other things being equal, hanging a 68-70 fender on an older car will give an decreased gap. Hanging an older fender on a 68-70 will give an increased gap. But things are never equal and these cars and their parts seem to vary A LOT. You can compensate for this regardless of the problem by slotting the mounting hole on the car or redoing the bracket. Body shops sometimes have to do far worse than this repairing accident damage.

Most of this is moot anyway as only some of the different fenders are available in a new part, and used parts may have far more problems than just a tiny edge shape difference (if there ever was one!)



I too thought I read somewhere that there are different flares between 1970 and others, but I can't recall where I read that.

Allen
From: Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Roy Haslett via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 4:09 PM
To: Datsun list <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>; Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fender question
 
If anyone needs a left front fender from an early 67 1600 let me know.  Very clean and includes light baskets for head and parking lights.
Thanks,
Roy Haslett

On Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 03:56:31 PM PDT, Pat Horne via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:


Is there a difference in the flair on the fenders after the larger flairs in 67.5? I thought I saw somewhere that the flair stayed the same from 67.5 until 69 and the 70 had a different flair. I thought I found that on Rallie’s site but I don’t see it today. 

Thanks. 

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne 
We support Habitat for Humanity

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