From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Wed May  1 10:46:44 2013
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (Nathaniel Leeds)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 09:46:44 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Bay Area Engine Shop
Message-ID: <6318BB28-6106-4D48-824D-6DA32D56DA15@mindspring.com>

All,

I managed to skip a link on the timing chain on my U20 yesterday, and don't
have the time to fix it myself.  So, I am on the verge of doing something I
never expected to do -- let someone else work on my car.  Can anyone recommend
a good engine shop in the Bay Area to get the motor put back together (I'm
anticipating the full complement of bent valves . . . )?

I may be weighing whether to go to a KA24DE, or SR20DET if there's a shop that
people would trust to do the swap.

Nathaniel Leeds
310-592-3353

From roadster at astound.net  Wed May  1 19:51:22 2013
From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 18:51:22 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Bay Area Engine Shop
In-Reply-To: <6318BB28-6106-4D48-824D-6DA32D56DA15@mindspring.com>
References: <6318BB28-6106-4D48-824D-6DA32D56DA15@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <2C2627A2-F03F-4FA8-8887-CF1AD97D5971@astound.net>

I would think places that do Z engine work might also do roadster U20's.
(Alvin, got some hints?). Other than that, Mike Young can make
recommendations.

I've had excellent work done at a machine shop in Burlingame near Hwy 101, but
the last time was a dozen years ago and I did most of the work. I had them
grind a crankshaft and block, and they properly pressed in the jackshaft
bearings (some shops might do it wrong, blocking the oil path); also ground
valve seats and installed new valves.  They had experience with roadster
engines and sourced their parts from Dean Apostal. I'll check if they're still
in business and can still work on U-20's.

Fred - SSF, Ca

On May 1, 2013, at 9:46 AM, Nathaniel Leeds <nmleeds at mindspring.com> wrote:

> All,
>
> I managed to skip a link on the timing chain on my U20 yesterday, and don't
> have the time to fix it myself.  So, I am on the verge of doing something I
> never expected to do -- let someone else work on my car.  Can anyone
recommend
> a good engine shop in the Bay Area to get the motor put back together (I'm
anticipating the full complement of bent valves . . . )?
>
> I may be weighing whether to go to a KA24DE, or SR20DET if there's a shop
that
> people would trust to do the swap.
>
> Nathaniel Leeds
> 310-592-3353
> ________________________________________

From funkaholik at yahoo.com  Thu May  2 14:03:43 2013
From: funkaholik at yahoo.com (Erik Miller)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 13:03:43 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Bay Area Engine Shop
Message-ID: <B0433DDC-94DC-4157-AA04-6704DDAAC88D@yahoo.com>

Contact Rob at Z Car Garage in San Jose. If they can't do the work, he will
certainly point you in the right direction.
140 Archer Street, San Jose
(408) 452-0350

Erik

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Sat May  4 10:46:21 2013
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 09:46:21 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] BAT Roadster
Message-ID: <BLU168-W19479CD885710740F99A2DFBF0@phx.gbl>

https://blu168.mail.live.com/default.aspx?id=64855#n=1389409101&fid=1&mid=aa5
4f7f0-b4b4-11e2-ac38-00237de4a792 Anyone we know??

Peter Harrison
818 448 3181

From RWM at RWMann.com  Sat May  4 12:55:31 2013
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Sat, 04 May 2013 14:55:31 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] WTB - U20 Fuel Pump Body
Message-ID: <518559A3.9050607@RWMann.com>

Anyone have a rebuildable (old style) U20 fuel pump body (base; mounts 
to block) gathering dust?

Need one.  Offers?

Thanks.

- Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex

From davesmbox at aol.com  Sat May  4 13:19:44 2013
From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 15:19:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Bless me roadster father for I have sinned
Message-ID: <8D0171377D8DAD6-F40-2663@webmail-m298.sysops.aol.com>

Went off reservation again. I sinned with the Saab sonett. Poor Datsun 1600
sat. Now I just bought an almost new Volvo 1974 164E. Had one 30 years ago but
the rust bunny got it and at 25 could not afford to fix it.  Great car  Can go
130MPH all day  Well not in Mass.

Dave

From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com  Sat May  4 14:13:15 2013
From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo)
Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 16:13:15 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Bless me roadster father for I have sinned
In-Reply-To: <8D0171377D8DAD6-F40-2663@webmail-m298.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8D0171377D8DAD6-F40-2663@webmail-m298.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <F5B13A4E-4C4F-4FCC-AB7B-2D9A1222DD65@rochester.rr.com>

For your penance, drop a rebuilt Solex U20 C cam and 5 speed in your 1600.
Then drive her at least once a week.

Never drove a Sonnet, was she fun to ride?  Worth the sinning? :-)

Sent from my iPad

On May 4, 2013, at 3:19 PM, davesmbox at aol.com wrote:

> Went off reservation again. I sinned with the Saab sonett. Poor Datsun 1600
> sat. Now I just bought an almost new Volvo 1974 164E. Had one 30 years ago
but
> the rust bunny got it and at 25 could not afford to fix it.  Great car  Can
go
> 130MPH all day  Well not in Mass.
>
> Dave
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From rksmith46 at hotmail.com  Sat May  4 21:33:47 2013
From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith)
Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 23:33:47 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Bless me roadster father for I have sinned
In-Reply-To: <F5B13A4E-4C4F-4FCC-AB7B-2D9A1222DD65@rochester.rr.com>
References: <8D0171377D8DAD6-F40-2663@webmail-m298.sysops.aol.com>,
	<F5B13A4E-4C4F-4FCC-AB7B-2D9A1222DD65@rochester.rr.com>
Message-ID: <BAY178-W23A6A617CE97A3DF0B3624BFB80@phx.gbl>

i loved the volvo 164 e. ive had two. one had 4 spd.w/ over drive. most of
them  were
automatics. i drove one from west palm beach fla. to fairbanks  alaska.  i
did
5500 miles in 11 days. drove the( then dirt) alcan hwy in 3 days (1500 miles)
my wife  and 2 kids probably would have liked to take more time on that
trip. this was in 1977, and yes, i had my 69 srl 311(roadster content)
   bob smith, ohio

> From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com
> Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 16:13:15 -0400
> To: davesmbox at aol.com
> CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bless me roadster father for I have sinned
>
> For your penance, drop a rebuilt Solex U20 C cam and 5 speed in your 1600.
> Then drive her at least once a week.
>
> Never drove a Sonnet, was she fun to ride?  Worth the sinning? :-)
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 4, 2013, at 3:19 PM, davesmbox at aol.com wrote:
>
> > Went off reservation again. I sinned with the Saab sonett. Poor Datsun
1600
> > sat. Now I just bought an almost new Volvo 1974 164E. Had one 30 years
ago
> but
> > the rust bunny got it and at 25 could not afford to fix it.  Great car
Can
> go
> > 130MPH all day  Well not in Mass.
> >
> > Dave
> > ________________________________________
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From hrhaslett at yahoo.com  Mon May  6 17:33:03 2013
From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 16:33:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: Bring a Trailer daily mail
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Sold for $13,600!!


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From graemes at internode.on.net  Fri May 10 05:14:50 2013
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 20:44:50 +0930
Subject: [Roadsters] I am now in painting mode!
Message-ID: <518CD6AA.6030406@internode.on.net>

Hi folks,
for the last couple of  3 days I have been working on my Fairlady at my 
chosen paint shop.
Travis is coaching me to sand , seam seal and paint the body.
The under floor and rear 1/4s inside the boot have been done with a 
colour tinted bed liner.
I have sanded and sealed the boot and cabin areas ready for a top coat 
of Cherry Red.
Painting will be tomorrow:-)
For pics and comments, refer to the web addy in my signature.
This is all good fun and a wealth of experience for me.
Stay tuned for the finale!

-- 
Regards,
Graeme Suckling
nissanman.shutterfly.com
Adelaide
South Australia.

From hrhaslett at yahoo.com  Fri May 10 14:25:20 2013
From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 13:25:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] adjusting valves on R16
Message-ID: <1368217520.89829.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

I have never been great at getting my valves adjusted correctly.  I get them
close, but not exactly right.  At Solvang I heard conflicting opinion as to
what gap to set the valves on the R16 1600.  I have .17 Hot and .21 Cold in my
manual.  I prefer to set them cold vs hot because "hot" can vary quite a bit. 
What I heard from a Datsun guy at Solvang was that cold setting is TIGHTER
 than hot?  That seems contrary to me.  Please chime in with the gap setting
and technique tips that work best  for you.  Thanks in advance.
Roy Haslett
67
1600

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Fri May 10 20:56:41 2013
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 19:56:41 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] adjusting valves on R16
In-Reply-To: <1368217520.89829.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1368217520.89829.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU168-W235C1D7A2CDE124EA88ACDFA60@phx.gbl>

If you have NO idea what your valve setting is (R16) - safe is to set them at
20 COLD - warm up the engine and then set to .17 HOT.Good test on accuracy -
if a .18 fits then you are too loose.Don't also forget to press down on the
push rod side before adjusting (just to make sure there is no oil in the cup)
And HOT is (as far as I know) the ONLY way to set them. Engine is typically
HOT after a short run to the liquour store, so you can acquire what is needed
for PATIENCE <G>

Peter Harrison
818 448 3181

 > Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 13:25:20 -0700
> From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] adjusting valves on R16
>
> I have never been great at getting my valves adjusted correctly.  I get
them
> close, but not exactly right.  At Solvang I heard conflicting opinion as to
> what gap to set the valves on the R16 1600.  I have .17 Hot and .21 Cold in
my
> manual.  I prefer to set them cold vs hot because "hot" can vary quite a
bit.
> What I heard from a Datsun guy at Solvang was that cold setting is TIGHTER
>  than hot?  That seems contrary to me.  Please chime in with the gap
setting
> and technique tips that work best  for you.  Thanks in advance.
> Roy Haslett
> 67
> 1600
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From cour.jpeg at gmail.com  Sat May 11 03:18:50 2013
From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (Paul Courson)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 05:18:50 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] adjusting valves on R16
In-Reply-To: <BLU168-W235C1D7A2CDE124EA88ACDFA60@phx.gbl>
References: <1368217520.89829.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<BLU168-W235C1D7A2CDE124EA88ACDFA60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAAC0-o5K+g-CqibW=zk4tYq0x43FLti4mOR6Fs157_D0vcZ8TA@mail.gmail.com>

Peter is correct on both counts - push the rocker arm to displace oil, and
pick a pub for a round trip warmup drive.

I also would point out that once set, tightening the locknut can change
your adjustment. Sometimes I compensate ahead of that tightening and it
works out just right.

On measurement, I have found it accurate to combine feeler blades for
go/no-go, rather than guessing how much friction equals "correct" on a
single push.

Don't forget a new valve cover gasket.
On May 10, 2013 10:57 PM, "peter harrison" <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> If you have NO idea what your valve setting is (R16) - safe is to set them
> at
> 20 COLD - warm up the engine and then set to .17 HOT.Good test on accuracy
> -
> if a .18 fits then you are too loose.Don't also forget to press down on the
> push rod side before adjusting (just to make sure there is no oil in the
> cup)
> And HOT is (as far as I know) the ONLY way to set them. Engine is typically
> HOT after a short run to the liquour store, so you can acquire what is
> needed
> for PATIENCE <G>
>
> Peter Harrison
> 818 448 3181
>
>  > Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 13:25:20 -0700
> > From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com
> > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> > Subject: [Roadsters] adjusting valves on R16
> >
> > I have never been great at getting my valves adjusted correctly.  I get
> them
> > close, but not exactly right.  At Solvang I heard conflicting opinion as
> to
> > what gap to set the valves on the R16 1600.  I have .17 Hot and .21 Cold
> in
> my
> > manual.  I prefer to set them cold vs hot because "hot" can vary quite a
> bit.
> > What I heard from a Datsun guy at Solvang was that cold setting is
> TIGHTER
> >  than hot?  That seems contrary to me.  Please chime in with the gap
> setting
> > and technique tips that work best  for you.  Thanks in advance.
> > Roy Haslett
> > 67
> > 1600
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> >
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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Sat May 11 07:34:06 2013
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 09:34:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] adjusting valves on R16
Message-ID: <123279.1b7ac17.3ebfa2cd@aol.com>

Rather than using a .017 feeler gauge and judging the feel I use a .016 and 
 a .018. The .018 will not go in, the .016 does and you are good to go. If 
you  want to do cold setting then set your engine warm then let it cool 
overnight and  remeasure. That is your engine's cold settings. 
 
The problem I had before my engine rebuild was that the valve adjustment  
changed a lot. Set it one time good, check a few days later and they were all 
 over the place. Turned out to be bad lobes on the cam. Six of the eight 
were  damaged so as the lifters rotated the clearance changed. What I did was 
reset as  I found tight ones and left loose ones alone. That way they varied 
from correct  to loose but never tight. Didn't hurt performance too much. I 
was slowing down  after trying to keep up with something a bit sportier and 
got a speeding ticked  at 95 mph. (not reccomended)
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 5/10/2013 7:57:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
granvillecomputing at hotmail.com writes:

If you  have NO idea what your valve setting is (R16) - safe is to set them 
at
20  COLD - warm up the engine and then set to .17 HOT.Good test on accuracy 
 -
if a .18 fits then you are too loose.Don't also forget to press down on  the
push rod side before adjusting (just to make sure there is no oil in  the 
cup)
And HOT is (as far as I know) the ONLY way to set them. Engine is  typically
HOT after a short run to the liquour store, so you can acquire  what is 
needed
for PATIENCE <G>

Peter Harrison
818 448  3181

> Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 13:25:20 -0700
> From:  hrhaslett at yahoo.com
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>  Subject: [Roadsters] adjusting valves on R16
>
> I have never been  great at getting my valves adjusted correctly.  I get
them
>  close, but not exactly right.  At Solvang I heard conflicting opinion as 
 to
> what gap to set the valves on the R16 1600.  I have .17 Hot  and .21 Cold 
in
my
> manual.  I prefer to set them cold vs hot  because "hot" can vary quite a
bit.
> What I heard from a Datsun guy  at Solvang was that cold setting is 
TIGHTER
>  than hot?  That  seems contrary to me.  Please chime in with the gap
setting
>  and technique tips that work best  for you.  Thanks in  advance.
> Roy Haslett
> 67
> 1600
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From aultgc at att.net  Sat May 11 11:21:11 2013
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 10:21:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] adjusting valves on R16
In-Reply-To: <BLU168-W235C1D7A2CDE124EA88ACDFA60@phx.gbl>
References: <1368217520.89829.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<BLU168-W235C1D7A2CDE124EA88ACDFA60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1368292871.62066.YahooMailRC@web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Please note that what works well for patience may have an adverse effect on
accuracy!

;-)




________________________________
From: peter harrison
<granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>
To: datsun <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, May 10, 2013 9:56:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] adjusting valves
on R16

If you have NO idea what your valve setting is (R16) - safe is to set
them at
20 COLD - warm up the engine and then set to .17 HOT.Good test on
accuracy -
if a .18 fits then you are too loose.Don't also forget to press
down on the
push rod side before adjusting (just to make sure there is no oil
in the cup)
And HOT is (as far as I know) the ONLY way to set them. Engine is
typically
HOT after a short run to the liquour store, so you can acquire what
is needed
for PATIENCE <G>

Peter Harrison
818 448 3181

> Date: Fri, 10 May
2013 13:25:20 -0700
> From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com
> To:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] adjusting valves on R16
>
> I have never been great at getting my valves adjusted correctly.  I get
them
> close, but not exactly right.  At Solvang I heard conflicting opinion
as to
> what gap to set the valves on the R16 1600.  I have .17 Hot and .21
Cold in
my
> manual.  I prefer to set them cold vs hot because "hot" can vary
quite a
bit.
> What I heard from a Datsun guy at Solvang was that cold setting
is TIGHTER
>  than hot?  That seems contrary to me.  Please chime in with the
gap
setting
> and technique tips that work best  for you.  Thanks in advance.
> Roy Haslett
> 67
> 1600
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>
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Sat May 11 11:21:56 2013
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 10:21:56 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] adjusting valves on R16
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Message-ID: <001801ce4e6c$0a2dc7d0$1e895770$@net>

You can also get stepped feeler gauges where the first inch or so of the
gauge is one thickness and then it jumps up .002".

Gordon Glasgow

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Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 6:34 AM
To: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] adjusting valves on R16

Rather than using a .017 feeler gauge and judging the feel I use a .016 and
a .018. The .018 will not go in, the .016 does and you are good to go. If
you  want to do cold setting then set your engine warm then let it cool
overnight and  remeasure. That is your engine's cold settings. 
 
The problem I had before my engine rebuild was that the valve adjustment
changed a lot. Set it one time good, check a few days later and they were
all  over the place. Turned out to be bad lobes on the cam. Six of the eight
were  damaged so as the lifters rotated the clearance changed. What I did
was reset as  I found tight ones and left loose ones alone. That way they
varied from correct  to loose but never tight. Didn't hurt performance too
much. I was slowing down  after trying to keep up with something a bit
sportier and got a speeding ticked  at 95 mph. (not reccomended)
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 5/10/2013 7:57:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
granvillecomputing at hotmail.com writes:

If you  have NO idea what your valve setting is (R16) - safe is to set them
at
20  COLD - warm up the engine and then set to .17 HOT.Good test on accuracy
 -
if a .18 fits then you are too loose.Don't also forget to press down on  the
push rod side before adjusting (just to make sure there is no oil in  the
cup)
And HOT is (as far as I know) the ONLY way to set them. Engine is  typically
HOT after a short run to the liquour store, so you can acquire  what is
needed for PATIENCE <G>

Peter Harrison
818 448  3181

> Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 13:25:20 -0700
> From:  hrhaslett at yahoo.com
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>  Subject: [Roadsters] adjusting valves on R16
>
> I have never been  great at getting my valves adjusted correctly.  I 
> get
them
>  close, but not exactly right.  At Solvang I heard conflicting opinion 
> as
 to
> what gap to set the valves on the R16 1600.  I have .17 Hot  and .21 
> Cold
in
my
> manual.  I prefer to set them cold vs hot  because "hot" can vary 
> quite a
bit.
> What I heard from a Datsun guy  at Solvang was that cold setting is
TIGHTER
>  than hot?  That  seems contrary to me.  Please chime in with the gap
setting
>  and technique tips that work best  for you.  Thanks in  advance.
> Roy Haslett
> 67
> 1600
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From aultgc at att.net  Sat May 11 11:33:32 2013
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 10:33:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] adjusting valves on R16
In-Reply-To: <123279.1b7ac17.3ebfa2cd@aol.com>
References: <123279.1b7ac17.3ebfa2cd@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1368293612.81963.YahooMailRC@web181405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I use Keith's method on my U20.  I set them just a little loose.
________________________________
From: "Keith0alan at aol.com"
<Keith0alan at aol.com>
To: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com;
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Sat, May 11, 2013 8:34:26 AM
Subject:
Re: [Roadsters] adjusting valves on R16

Rather than using a .017 feeler gauge
and judging the feel I use a .016 and 
a .018. The .018 will not go in, the
.016 does and you are good to go. If 
you  want to do cold setting then set
your engine warm then let it cool 
overnight and  remeasure. That is your
engine's cold settings. 

The problem I had before my engine rebuild was that
the valve adjustment  
changed a lot. Set it one time good, check a few days
later and they were all 
over the place. Turned out to be bad lobes on the
cam. Six of the eight 
were  damaged so as the lifters rotated the clearance
changed. What I did was 
reset as  I found tight ones and left loose ones
alone. That way they varied 
from correct  to loose but never tight. Didn't
hurt performance too much. I 
was slowing down  after trying to keep up with
something a bit sportier and 
got a speeding ticked  at 95 mph. (not
reccomended)

keith


In a message dated 5/10/2013 7:57:19 P.M. Pacific
Daylight Time,  
granvillecomputing at hotmail.com writes:

If you  have NO idea
what your valve setting is (R16) - safe is to set them 
at
20  COLD - warm up
the engine and then set to .17 HOT.Good test on accuracy 
-
if a .18 fits then
you are too loose.Don't also forget to press down on  the
push rod side before
adjusting (just to make sure there is no oil in  the 
cup)
And HOT is (as far
as I know) the ONLY way to set them. Engine is  typically
HOT after a short
run to the liquour store, so you can acquire  what is 
needed
for PATIENCE <G>
Peter Harrison
818 448  3181

> Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 13:25:20 -0700
> From: 
hrhaslett at yahoo.com
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>  Subject:
[Roadsters] adjusting valves on R16
>
> I have never been  great at getting my
valves adjusted correctly.  I get
them
>  close, but not exactly right.  At
Solvang I heard conflicting opinion as 
to
> what gap to set the valves on the
R16 1600.  I have .17 Hot  and .21 Cold 
in
my
> manual.  I prefer to set them
cold vs hot  because "hot" can vary quite a
bit.
> What I heard from a Datsun
guy  at Solvang was that cold setting is 
TIGHTER
>  than hot?  That  seems
contrary to me.  Please chime in with the gap
setting
>  and technique tips
that work best  for you.  Thanks in  advance.
> Roy Haslett
> 67
> 1600
> 
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From dscrib2 at hotmail.com  Sat May 11 15:55:38 2013
From: dscrib2 at hotmail.com (Dana Scribner)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 17:55:38 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] It won't stop running
Message-ID: <SNT141-W474DD5E81DD2C9C84D6B10F0A60@phx.gbl>

My roadster wont stop running. When I turn the key to the garage
it keeps
running and when I go to the lock position the starter turns and it
keeps
running. I have upgraded to an electronic distributor, I love it and dont
have a problem with it. At that time I put in a MSD 8202 distributor with an
internal resistor and new wires. Everything is wired according to the
instructions. Here is what happens. I can start the car and it runs without a
problem but when I stop and go to shut the car off it doesnt. It keeps
running. The only way to stop it is to disconnect the ignition wire to the
coil
or the ground terminal on the battery. I have checked the ignition switch
which
was fine. The ignition wire to the coil is good. When I disconnected the
connector on the ignition switch and it keeps running. I replaced the coil
with
an old Flamethrower I had and it made no difference. Like the bunny it
kept on
running. I did notice that if the rpms stayed below a point it would
shut off.
It did this at 1,000; 1500; 2000 rpms but when I got to 2500 and
the GM
alternation kicked in I couldnt shut it off. So this is where I am.
Does
anyone know what is happening; why its happening and most important what
is
the solution?

 

 

Dana S 

1969 2000

From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net  Sat May 11 18:52:10 2013
From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 18:52:10 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
Subject: [Roadsters] It won't stop running
Message-ID: <29417437.1368319931146.JavaMail.root@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hello Dana, I had a similar problem (actually sounds identical) on my roadster
last summer after reinstalling the rebuilt U20.  I spent 3 days with the
expertise of 2 excellent mechanics and we were unable to pinpoint the problem.

I finally put it on the trailer and hauled it to the electrical shop and he
said it was a defect in how the alternator was routing the current.  He put a
switch or relay of some time in the ignition circuit, and that corrected the
problem.

I am very interested to hear if anyone else has experienced the problem. I
have no clue what caused the trouble initially.  My car has a right sided GM
alternator and pertronix ignition, though they worked fine prior to the engine
rebuild.

Good luck, let me know if you get a private post with an answer to your
question.  Dewey

-----Original Message-----
>From: Dana Scribner <dscrib2 at hotmail.com>
>Sent: May 11, 2013 3:55 PM
>To: drone <drone at drone-club.com>, datsun roadsters
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Roadsters] It won't stop running
>
>My roadster wont stop running. When I turn the key to the garage
>it keeps
>running and when I go to the lock position the starter turns and it
>keeps
>running. I have upgraded to an electronic distributor, I love it and dont
>have a problem with it. At that time I put in a MSD 8202 distributor with an
>internal resistor and new wires. Everything is wired according to the
>instructions. Here is what happens. I can start the car and it runs without
a
>problem but when I stop and go to shut the car off it doesnt. It keeps
>running. The only way to stop it is to disconnect the ignition wire to the
>coil
>or the ground terminal on the battery. I have checked the ignition switch
>which
>was fine. The ignition wire to the coil is good. When I disconnected the
>connector on the ignition switch and it keeps running. I replaced the coil
>with
>an old Flamethrower I had and it made no difference. Like the bunny it
>kept on
>running. I did notice that if the rpms stayed below a point it would
>shut off.
>It did this at 1,000; 1500; 2000 rpms but when I got to 2500 and
>the GM
>alternation kicked in I couldnt shut it off. So this is where I am.
>Does
>anyone know what is happening; why its happening and most important what
>is
>the solution?
>
>
>
>
>
>Dana S
>
>1969 2000
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>
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From mhatch at ics.com  Sat May 11 19:17:32 2013
From: mhatch at ics.com (Mark Hatch)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 18:17:32 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] It won't stop running
In-Reply-To: <29417437.1368319931146.JavaMail.root@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <29417437.1368319931146.JavaMail.root@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20b9723db786d0fe59858a3bf770130f@mail.gmail.com>

I had a "no stop" situation after I re-hooked my backup lights into the
wiring harness. Could even withdraw the key and it kept running. Pulled the
hot on the battery to get the car to stop running.

On a '69, a lot of stuff gets their hot (power) through the hazard light
switch. At the time assumed that there was something in that subsystem that
was shorting the positive and bypassing the ignition switch. Given the
switch is right next to the radio, and I had tried fitting a larger radio, I
assumed it was something I had done.

I deferred working on the backup lights until later and never did figure out
what the connection was...

Mark

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dewey Hahlbohm [mailto:hahlbohmd at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 5:52 PM
> To: Dana Scribner; drone; datsun roadsters
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] It won't stop running
>
> Hello Dana, I had a similar problem (actually sounds identical) on my
> roadster
> last summer after reinstalling the rebuilt U20.  I spent 3 days with the
> expertise of 2 excellent mechanics and we were unable to pinpoint the
> problem.
>
> I finally put it on the trailer and hauled it to the electrical shop and
> he said it
> was a defect in how the alternator was routing the current.  He put a
> switch
> or relay of some time in the ignition circuit, and that corrected the
> problem.
>
> I am very interested to hear if anyone else has experienced the problem. I
> have no clue what caused the trouble initially.  My car has a right sided
> GM
> alternator and pertronix ignition, though they worked fine prior to the
> engine rebuild.
>
> Good luck, let me know if you get a private post with an answer to your
> question.  Dewey
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Dana Scribner <dscrib2 at hotmail.com>
> >Sent: May 11, 2013 3:55 PM
> >To: drone <drone at drone-club.com>, datsun roadsters
> ><datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> >Subject: [Roadsters] It won't stop running
> >
> >My roadster wont stop running. When I turn the key to the garage it
> >keeps running and when I go to the lock position the starter turns and
> >it keeps running. I have upgraded to an electronic distributor, I love
> >it and dont have a problem with it. At that time I put in a MSD 8202
> >distributor with an internal resistor and new wires. Everything is
> >wired according to the instructions. Here is what happens. I can start
> >the car and it runs without a problem but when I stop and go to shut
> >the car off it doesnt. It keeps running. The only way to stop it is to
> >disconnect the ignition wire to the coil or the ground terminal on the
> >battery. I have checked the ignition switch which was fine. The
> >ignition wire to the coil is good. When I disconnected the connector on
> >the ignition switch and it keeps running. I replaced the coil with an
> >old Flamethrower I had and it made no difference. Like the bunny it
> >kept on running. I did notice that if the rpms stayed below a point it
> >would shut off.
> >It did this at 1,000; 1500; 2000 rpms but when I got to 2500 and the
> >GM alternation kicked in I couldnt shut it off. So this is where I am.
> >Does
> >anyone know what is happening; why its happening and most important
> >what is the solution?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Dana S
> >
> >1969 2000
> >________________________________________
> >
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> >
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From pat at hornesystemstx.com  Sat May 11 20:24:55 2013
From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 21:24:55 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] It won't stop running
In-Reply-To: <SNT141-W474DD5E81DD2C9C84D6B10F0A60@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT141-W474DD5E81DD2C9C84D6B10F0A60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <518EFD77.9070806@hornesystemstx.com>

Dana,

Years ago my 67.5 would not turn off when the key was switched off. It 
turned out to be an overheated connection on the ammeter that was loose. 
Replacing the fried terminals fixed the problem. I have a GM alternator, 
and I suspect that everyone who has this problem is not running the 
stock alternator. If this is the case, a rewire of the alternator to 
either use external excitation or the use of a relay to shut the 
alternator off when the ignition is turned off will be needed.

What may be causing the problem is that the alternator output is 
connected to the same side of the ammeter as the load of the car. When 
the engine is still turning the alternator is putting out power that 
kept the ignition going.

Peace,
Pat

  Thusly spake Dana Scribner

> My roadster wont stop running. When I turn the key to the garage
> it keeps
> running and when I go to the lock position the starter turns and it
> keeps
> running. I have upgraded to an electronic distributor, I love it and dont
> have a problem with it. At that time I put in a MSD 8202 distributor with an
> internal resistor and new wires. Everything is wired according to the
> instructions. Here is what happens. I can start the car and it runs without a
> problem but when I stop and go to shut the car off it doesnt. It keeps
> running. The only way to stop it is to disconnect the ignition wire to the
> coil
> or the ground terminal on the battery. I have checked the ignition switch
> which
> was fine. The ignition wire to the coil is good. When I disconnected the
> connector on the ignition switch and it keeps running. I replaced the coil
> with
> an old Flamethrower I had and it made no difference. Like the bunny it
> kept on
> running. I did notice that if the rpms stayed below a point it would
> shut off.
> It did this at 1,000; 1500; 2000 rpms but when I got to 2500 and
> the GM
> alternation kicked in I couldnt shut it off. So this is where I am.
> Does
> anyone know what is happening; why its happening and most important what
> is
> the solution?
>
>   
>
>   
>
> Dana S
>
> 1969 2000
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From fred.davidson at diversia.ca  Sun May 12 08:02:16 2013
From: fred.davidson at diversia.ca (Fred Davidson)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 10:02:16 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] It won't stop running
In-Reply-To: <SNT141-W474DD5E81DD2C9C84D6B10F0A60@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT141-W474DD5E81DD2C9C84D6B10F0A60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000901ce4f19$5897c080$09c74180$@diversia.ca>

Hi Dana:

It sounds like the + wire to the coil is has continuous power from the
electrical system.  I believe that coil wire is switched power and will only
deliver power with the ignition switch on or in start mode.   ??

Fred

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dana Scribner
Sent: May-11-13 5:56 PM
To: drone; datsun roadsters
Subject: [Roadsters] It won't stop running

My roadster wont stop running. When I turn the key to the garage
it keeps
running and when I go to the lock position the starter turns and it
keeps
running. I have upgraded to an electronic distributor, I love it and dont
have a problem with it. At that time I put in a MSD 8202 distributor with an
internal resistor and new wires. Everything is wired according to the
instructions. Here is what happens. I can start the car and it runs without
a
problem but when I stop and go to shut the car off it doesnt. It keeps
running. The only way to stop it is to disconnect the ignition wire to the
coil
or the ground terminal on the battery. I have checked the ignition switch
which
was fine. The ignition wire to the coil is good. When I disconnected the
connector on the ignition switch and it keeps running. I replaced the coil
with
an old Flamethrower I had and it made no difference. Like the bunny it
kept on
running. I did notice that if the rpms stayed below a point it would
shut off.
It did this at 1,000; 1500; 2000 rpms but when I got to 2500 and
the GM
alternation kicked in I couldnt shut it off. So this is where I am.
Does
anyone know what is happening; why its happening and most important what
is
the solution?





Dana S

1969 2000
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Sun May 12 18:34:06 2013
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 17:34:06 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Product recommendation
Message-ID: <000c01ce4f71$93f09780$bbd1c680$@net>

Background: A few years ago while we were on our way to Shasta, we
encountered an elderly couple stopped on the side of the freeway with a flat
tire. We decided to stop and help them, especially since I had all my tools
with me. But I had a great deal of difficulty breaking the lug nuts loose. I
was literally standing on the end of my 1/2" breaker bar, and I'm not
exactly light. I finally got them loose by BOUNCING on the end of the bar. I
don't know what gorilla at the tire store put those on, but geez!

 

Recently I saw a product listed in the Northern Tool & Equipment catalog
that looked promising. It was a 1/2" drive impact wrench that runs on 12v
from the cigarette lighter. It claimed that it could generate 280 lb/ft of
torque! Santa was kind enough to get it for me, and I finally got a chance
to try it out.

 

At first I thought it wasn't working, because I'd put it on a lug nut, pull
the trigger and nothing would happen. Noise, but no torque at all. Well,
okay, I hadn't read the directions. Turns out it doesn't work like a regular
impact wrench. It has some sort of spinning weight internally that has to
build up momentum before it delivers a whack. So it goes
spin-spin-spin-WHACK! spin-spin-spin-WHACK! But after the third whack, it
actually broke the lug nut loose on my Maxima, and I torque those to 90
lb/ft. Cool!

 

The only down-side that I found was that the socket supplied with the gun is
too fat to fit into the recesses on the wheels on the Maxima, so I'll have
to carry a different socket in the carrying case. This thing is definitely
going in the trunk for the next road trip.

 

Best part is, it's only $47.99.

 

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200479025_200479025

 

 

Gordon Glasgow

Renton, WA

www.gordon-glasgow.org

From tommy at dcwisp.net  Sun May 12 23:48:25 2013
From: tommy at dcwisp.net (Thomas Thompson)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 22:48:25 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Product recommendation
In-Reply-To: <000c01ce4f71$93f09780$bbd1c680$@net>
References: <000c01ce4f71$93f09780$bbd1c680$@net>
Message-ID: <7C80DCCA8DC749338442DF3731D79ED9@ThompsonPC>

Gordon--I was the stockroom/delivery boy for a drug store  in Coeur d'Alene 
in the 60's. One day I stopped to help a couple of elderly women with a left 
rear flat on their 60's Chrysler (it was like the scene in 'Groundhog Day' 
when Phil Connors jacks up the car with the old women inside). I was 
literally jumping on the four-way lug wrench unable to loosen the first lug 
nut, when I remembered hearing the studs on the driver's side wheels had 
left hand threads on those cars! We all hung out in gas stations with lift 
bays back in those days, and little threads of knowledge were always 
creeping into our teenage brains. I stomped on the other side of the wrench 
and Voila! I'm glad I was not able to put 280 lb/ft of tightening torque on 
that first nut! Anyhow, looks like a cool tool. Thanks for the link.
TT
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
To: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 5:34 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Product recommendation


> Background: A few years ago while we were on our way to Shasta, we
> encountered an elderly couple stopped on the side of the freeway with a 
> flat
> tire. We decided to stop and help them, especially since I had all my 
> tools
> with me. But I had a great deal of difficulty breaking the lug nuts loose. 
> I
> was literally standing on the end of my 1/2" breaker bar, and I'm not
> exactly light. I finally got them loose by BOUNCING on the end of the bar. 
> I
> don't know what gorilla at the tire store put those on, but geez!
>
>
>
> Recently I saw a product listed in the Northern Tool & Equipment catalog
> that looked promising. It was a 1/2" drive impact wrench that runs on 12v
> from the cigarette lighter. It claimed that it could generate 280 lb/ft of
> torque! Santa was kind enough to get it for me, and I finally got a chance
> to try it out.
>
>
>
> At first I thought it wasn't working, because I'd put it on a lug nut, 
> pull
> the trigger and nothing would happen. Noise, but no torque at all. Well,
> okay, I hadn't read the directions. Turns out it doesn't work like a 
> regular
> impact wrench. It has some sort of spinning weight internally that has to
> build up momentum before it delivers a whack. So it goes
> spin-spin-spin-WHACK! spin-spin-spin-WHACK! But after the third whack, it
> actually broke the lug nut loose on my Maxima, and I torque those to 90
> lb/ft. Cool!
>
>
>
> The only down-side that I found was that the socket supplied with the gun 
> is
> too fat to fit into the recesses on the wheels on the Maxima, so I'll have
> to carry a different socket in the carrying case. This thing is definitely
> going in the trunk for the next road trip.
>
>
>
> Best part is, it's only $47.99.
>
>
>
> http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200479025_200479025
>
>
>
>
>
> Gordon Glasgow
>
> Renton, WA
>
> www.gordon-glasgow.org
> ________________________________________
>
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Mon May 13 00:07:53 2013
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 23:07:53 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Product recommendation
In-Reply-To: <7C80DCCA8DC749338442DF3731D79ED9@ThompsonPC>
References: <000c01ce4f71$93f09780$bbd1c680$@net>
	<7C80DCCA8DC749338442DF3731D79ED9@ThompsonPC>
Message-ID: <002f01ce4fa0$3570ce30$a0526a90$@net>

Good point. I remember that now, I used to have a 1963 Plymouth.

Does anyone know if any car manufacturers still do that?

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Thompson [mailto:tommy at dcwisp.net] 
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 10:48 PM
To: Gordon Glasgow; Roadster List
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Product recommendation

Gordon--I was the stockroom/delivery boy for a drug store  in Coeur d'Alene
in the 60's. One day I stopped to help a couple of elderly women with a left
rear flat on their 60's Chrysler (it was like the scene in 'Groundhog Day' 
when Phil Connors jacks up the car with the old women inside). I was
literally jumping on the four-way lug wrench unable to loosen the first lug
nut, when I remembered hearing the studs on the driver's side wheels had
left hand threads on those cars! We all hung out in gas stations with lift
bays back in those days, and little threads of knowledge were always
creeping into our teenage brains. I stomped on the other side of the wrench
and Voila! I'm glad I was not able to put 280 lb/ft of tightening torque on
that first nut! Anyhow, looks like a cool tool. Thanks for the link.
TT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
To: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 5:34 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Product recommendation


> Background: A few years ago while we were on our way to Shasta, we 
> encountered an elderly couple stopped on the side of the freeway with 
> a flat tire. We decided to stop and help them, especially since I had 
> all my tools with me. But I had a great deal of difficulty breaking 
> the lug nuts loose.
> I
> was literally standing on the end of my 1/2" breaker bar, and I'm not 
> exactly light. I finally got them loose by BOUNCING on the end of the bar.
> I
> don't know what gorilla at the tire store put those on, but geez!
>
>
>
> Recently I saw a product listed in the Northern Tool & Equipment 
> catalog that looked promising. It was a 1/2" drive impact wrench that 
> runs on 12v from the cigarette lighter. It claimed that it could 
> generate 280 lb/ft of torque! Santa was kind enough to get it for me, 
> and I finally got a chance to try it out.
>
>
>
> At first I thought it wasn't working, because I'd put it on a lug nut, 
> pull the trigger and nothing would happen. Noise, but no torque at 
> all. Well, okay, I hadn't read the directions. Turns out it doesn't 
> work like a regular impact wrench. It has some sort of spinning weight 
> internally that has to build up momentum before it delivers a whack. 
> So it goes spin-spin-spin-WHACK! spin-spin-spin-WHACK! But after the 
> third whack, it actually broke the lug nut loose on my Maxima, and I 
> torque those to 90 lb/ft. Cool!
>
>
>
> The only down-side that I found was that the socket supplied with the 
> gun is too fat to fit into the recesses on the wheels on the Maxima, 
> so I'll have to carry a different socket in the carrying case. This 
> thing is definitely going in the trunk for the next road trip.
>
>
>
> Best part is, it's only $47.99.
>
>
>
> http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200479025_200479025
>
>
>
>
>
> Gordon Glasgow
>
> Renton, WA
>
> www.gordon-glasgow.org
> ________________________________________
>
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From tommy at dcwisp.net  Mon May 13 08:01:39 2013
From: tommy at dcwisp.net (Thomas Thompson)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 07:01:39 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Product recommendation
In-Reply-To: <002f01ce4fa0$3570ce30$a0526a90$@net>
References: <000c01ce4f71$93f09780$bbd1c680$@net>
	<7C80DCCA8DC749338442DF3731D79ED9@ThompsonPC>
	<002f01ce4fa0$3570ce30$a0526a90$@net>
Message-ID: <49BA29B387734017923706BD6D3C602A@ThompsonPC>

There is no record of anyone else doing that. I was reading that Chrysler 
turned out the last cars with driver side reverse threads in 1970. It sounds 
like it was a mistake to begin with, when someone ordered several million 
left-hand thread studs by accident. Of course, the knockoffs on my '67 
E-type Jaguar have reverse threads on the right side to keep them from 
spinning off with forward motion, but it made no sense for lug nuts.
TT
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
To: "'Thomas Thompson'" <tommy at dcwisp.net>; "'Roadster List'" 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 11:07 PM
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Product recommendation


> Good point. I remember that now, I used to have a 1963 Plymouth.
>
> Does anyone know if any car manufacturers still do that?
>
> Gordon Glasgow
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Thompson [mailto:tommy at dcwisp.net]
> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 10:48 PM
> To: Gordon Glasgow; Roadster List
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Product recommendation
>
> Gordon--I was the stockroom/delivery boy for a drug store  in Coeur 
> d'Alene
> in the 60's. One day I stopped to help a couple of elderly women with a 
> left
> rear flat on their 60's Chrysler (it was like the scene in 'Groundhog Day'
> when Phil Connors jacks up the car with the old women inside). I was
> literally jumping on the four-way lug wrench unable to loosen the first 
> lug
> nut, when I remembered hearing the studs on the driver's side wheels had
> left hand threads on those cars! We all hung out in gas stations with lift
> bays back in those days, and little threads of knowledge were always
> creeping into our teenage brains. I stomped on the other side of the 
> wrench
> and Voila! I'm glad I was not able to put 280 lb/ft of tightening torque 
> on
> that first nut! Anyhow, looks like a cool tool. Thanks for the link.
> TT
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
> To: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 5:34 PM
> Subject: [Roadsters] Product recommendation
>
>
>> Background: A few years ago while we were on our way to Shasta, we
>> encountered an elderly couple stopped on the side of the freeway with
>> a flat tire. We decided to stop and help them, especially since I had
>> all my tools with me. But I had a great deal of difficulty breaking
>> the lug nuts loose.
>> I
>> was literally standing on the end of my 1/2" breaker bar, and I'm not
>> exactly light. I finally got them loose by BOUNCING on the end of the 
>> bar.
>> I
>> don't know what gorilla at the tire store put those on, but geez!
>>
>>
>>
>> Recently I saw a product listed in the Northern Tool & Equipment
>> catalog that looked promising. It was a 1/2" drive impact wrench that
>> runs on 12v from the cigarette lighter. It claimed that it could
>> generate 280 lb/ft of torque! Santa was kind enough to get it for me,
>> and I finally got a chance to try it out.
>>
>>
>>
>> At first I thought it wasn't working, because I'd put it on a lug nut,
>> pull the trigger and nothing would happen. Noise, but no torque at
>> all. Well, okay, I hadn't read the directions. Turns out it doesn't
>> work like a regular impact wrench. It has some sort of spinning weight
>> internally that has to build up momentum before it delivers a whack.
>> So it goes spin-spin-spin-WHACK! spin-spin-spin-WHACK! But after the
>> third whack, it actually broke the lug nut loose on my Maxima, and I
>> torque those to 90 lb/ft. Cool!
>>
>>
>>
>> The only down-side that I found was that the socket supplied with the
>> gun is too fat to fit into the recesses on the wheels on the Maxima,
>> so I'll have to carry a different socket in the carrying case. This
>> thing is definitely going in the trunk for the next road trip.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best part is, it's only $47.99.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200479025_200479025
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Gordon Glasgow
>>
>> Renton, WA
>>
>> www.gordon-glasgow.org
>> ________________________________________
>>
>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
>> Unsubscribe:
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tommy at dcwisp.ne
>> t

From 69_spl311 at cox.net  Mon May 13 08:46:28 2013
From: 69_spl311 at cox.net (69_spl311)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 09:46:28 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Product recommendation
References: <000c01ce4f71$93f09780$bbd1c680$@net><7C80DCCA8DC749338442DF3731D79ED9@ThompsonPC>
	<002f01ce4fa0$3570ce30$a0526a90$@net>
Message-ID: <3D658EB8DE174567861AA098193A1E00@tonyxp>

What is a good replacement for Original 14" tires.
thanks


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
To: "'Thomas Thompson'" <tommy at dcwisp.net>; "'Roadster List'" 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 1:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Product recommendation


> Good point. I remember that now, I used to have a 1963 Plymouth.
>
> Does anyone know if any car manufacturers still do that?
>
> Gordon Glasgow
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Thompson [mailto:tommy at dcwisp.net]
> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 10:48 PM
> To: Gordon Glasgow; Roadster List
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Product recommendation
>
> Gordon--I was the stockroom/delivery boy for a drug store  in Coeur 
> d'Alene
> in the 60's. One day I stopped to help a couple of elderly women with a 
> left
> rear flat on their 60's Chrysler (it was like the scene in 'Groundhog Day'
> when Phil Connors jacks up the car with the old women inside). I was
> literally jumping on the four-way lug wrench unable to loosen the first 
> lug
> nut, when I remembered hearing the studs on the driver's side wheels had
> left hand threads on those cars! We all hung out in gas stations with lift
> bays back in those days, and little threads of knowledge were always
> creeping into our teenage brains. I stomped on the other side of the 
> wrench
> and Voila! I'm glad I was not able to put 280 lb/ft of tightening torque 
> on
> that first nut! Anyhow, looks like a cool tool. Thanks for the link.
> TT
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
> To: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 5:34 PM
> Subject: [Roadsters] Product recommendation
>
>
>> Background: A few years ago while we were on our way to Shasta, we
>> encountered an elderly couple stopped on the side of the freeway with
>> a flat tire. We decided to stop and help them, especially since I had
>> all my tools with me. But I had a great deal of difficulty breaking
>> the lug nuts loose.
>> I
>> was literally standing on the end of my 1/2" breaker bar, and I'm not
>> exactly light. I finally got them loose by BOUNCING on the end of the 
>> bar.
>> I
>> don't know what gorilla at the tire store put those on, but geez!
>>
>>
>>
>> Recently I saw a product listed in the Northern Tool & Equipment
>> catalog that looked promising. It was a 1/2" drive impact wrench that
>> runs on 12v from the cigarette lighter. It claimed that it could
>> generate 280 lb/ft of torque! Santa was kind enough to get it for me,
>> and I finally got a chance to try it out.
>>
>>
>>
>> At first I thought it wasn't working, because I'd put it on a lug nut,
>> pull the trigger and nothing would happen. Noise, but no torque at
>> all. Well, okay, I hadn't read the directions. Turns out it doesn't
>> work like a regular impact wrench. It has some sort of spinning weight
>> internally that has to build up momentum before it delivers a whack.
>> So it goes spin-spin-spin-WHACK! spin-spin-spin-WHACK! But after the
>> third whack, it actually broke the lug nut loose on my Maxima, and I
>> torque those to 90 lb/ft. Cool!
>>
>>
>>
>> The only down-side that I found was that the socket supplied with the
>> gun is too fat to fit into the recesses on the wheels on the Maxima,
>> so I'll have to carry a different socket in the carrying case. This
>> thing is definitely going in the trunk for the next road trip.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best part is, it's only $47.99.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200479025_200479025
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Gordon Glasgow
>>
>> Renton, WA
>>
>> www.gordon-glasgow.org
>> ________________________________________
>>
>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
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>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tommy at dcwisp.ne
>> t
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From chalsted at comcast.net  Mon May 13 08:50:12 2013
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 14:50:12 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] lug nuts and since we're OT- AMC Eagle Sundancer
In-Reply-To: <49BA29B387734017923706BD6D3C602A@ThompsonPC>
Message-ID: <212948718.450884.1368456612570.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

been a while since I pulled a wheel on it, but I think my '54 Studebaker coupe has opposite direction lugs on one side 


we recently saw a datsun roadster out of NH on ebay mounted on a 4x4 chassis...I've thought about doing that from time to time...came up with another solution to the open top 4x4 conundrum- picked up a 1981 AMC Eagle Sundancer :-) they only built 200 or so, have read there are 16 or so still known in existence. like pretty much everything else, it's available. has 42k miles on it but came out of an estate and I didn't get a title with it. 


Craig 

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Mon May 13 09:24:39 2013
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 08:24:39 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Product recommendation
In-Reply-To: <3D658EB8DE174567861AA098193A1E00@tonyxp>
References: <000c01ce4f71$93f09780$bbd1c680$@net><7C80DCCA8DC749338442DF3731D79ED9@ThompsonPC>
	<002f01ce4fa0$3570ce30$a0526a90$@net>
	<3D658EB8DE174567861AA098193A1E00@tonyxp>
Message-ID: <002f01ce4fed$fc678810$f5369830$@net>

There are a number of 185/70-14's listed at the Tire Rack Web site.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSearchResults.jsp?customSizeSearch=&width=
185%2F&ratio=70&diameter=14

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: 69_spl311 [mailto:69_spl311 at cox.net] 
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 7:46 AM
To: Gordon Glasgow; 'Thomas Thompson'; 'Roadster List'
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Product recommendation

What is a good replacement for Original 14" tires.
thanks


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
To: "'Thomas Thompson'" <tommy at dcwisp.net>; "'Roadster List'" 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 1:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Product recommendation


> Good point. I remember that now, I used to have a 1963 Plymouth.
>
> Does anyone know if any car manufacturers still do that?
>
> Gordon Glasgow
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Thompson [mailto:tommy at dcwisp.net]
> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 10:48 PM
> To: Gordon Glasgow; Roadster List
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Product recommendation
>
> Gordon--I was the stockroom/delivery boy for a drug store  in Coeur 
> d'Alene
> in the 60's. One day I stopped to help a couple of elderly women with a 
> left
> rear flat on their 60's Chrysler (it was like the scene in 'Groundhog Day'
> when Phil Connors jacks up the car with the old women inside). I was
> literally jumping on the four-way lug wrench unable to loosen the first 
> lug
> nut, when I remembered hearing the studs on the driver's side wheels had
> left hand threads on those cars! We all hung out in gas stations with lift
> bays back in those days, and little threads of knowledge were always
> creeping into our teenage brains. I stomped on the other side of the 
> wrench
> and Voila! I'm glad I was not able to put 280 lb/ft of tightening torque 
> on
> that first nut! Anyhow, looks like a cool tool. Thanks for the link.
> TT
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
> To: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 5:34 PM
> Subject: [Roadsters] Product recommendation
>
>
>> Background: A few years ago while we were on our way to Shasta, we
>> encountered an elderly couple stopped on the side of the freeway with
>> a flat tire. We decided to stop and help them, especially since I had
>> all my tools with me. But I had a great deal of difficulty breaking
>> the lug nuts loose.
>> I
>> was literally standing on the end of my 1/2" breaker bar, and I'm not
>> exactly light. I finally got them loose by BOUNCING on the end of the 
>> bar.
>> I
>> don't know what gorilla at the tire store put those on, but geez!
>>
>>
>>
>> Recently I saw a product listed in the Northern Tool & Equipment
>> catalog that looked promising. It was a 1/2" drive impact wrench that
>> runs on 12v from the cigarette lighter. It claimed that it could
>> generate 280 lb/ft of torque! Santa was kind enough to get it for me,
>> and I finally got a chance to try it out.
>>
>>
>>
>> At first I thought it wasn't working, because I'd put it on a lug nut,
>> pull the trigger and nothing would happen. Noise, but no torque at
>> all. Well, okay, I hadn't read the directions. Turns out it doesn't
>> work like a regular impact wrench. It has some sort of spinning weight
>> internally that has to build up momentum before it delivers a whack.
>> So it goes spin-spin-spin-WHACK! spin-spin-spin-WHACK! But after the
>> third whack, it actually broke the lug nut loose on my Maxima, and I
>> torque those to 90 lb/ft. Cool!
>>
>>
>>
>> The only down-side that I found was that the socket supplied with the
>> gun is too fat to fit into the recesses on the wheels on the Maxima,
>> so I'll have to carry a different socket in the carrying case. This
>> thing is definitely going in the trunk for the next road trip.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best part is, it's only $47.99.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200479025_200479025
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Gordon Glasgow
>>
>> Renton, WA
>>
>> www.gordon-glasgow.org
>> ________________________________________
>>
>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
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>> t
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From tputland at charter.net  Mon May 13 09:37:03 2013
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 11:37:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] replacement tires....was Product recommendation
Message-ID: <3c668cb4.7f2453.13e9e89b0cc.Webtop.43@charter.net>

You need to start your own thread please. It is common net courtesy.

Thank you

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:46 AM, 69_spl311 wrote:

> What is a good replacement for Original 14" tires.
> thanks

From twokeelya at gmail.com  Mon May 13 11:57:20 2013
From: twokeelya at gmail.com (twokeelya at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 10:57:20 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Beauty rings
Message-ID: <CALOjD__gdrTBgZPVGT-FdkXYKuUnS=H_Pt7hxhpKAVez5zZkdA@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings, I've been trying to find beauty rings for my roadster. I've
tried JC Whitney, nissanparts.com, many many tire and wheel shops. Does
anyone know where they can really be found?

Thanks

Richard

From funkaholik at yahoo.com  Mon May 13 12:26:06 2013
From: funkaholik at yahoo.com (Erik Miller)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 11:26:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] replacement tires
Message-ID: <1368469566.83900.YahooMailClassic@web162104.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

If you want whitewalls in that size, they are getting harder to find.  Black
walls are easy.Hankook Mileage Plus II H725 has a whitewall in 185/70-14.
 They are available at Summit Racing for  $83.  Onlinetires.com has them much
cheaper, at $55, but they are out of stock until sometime in June. I'm
waiting...

From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Mon May 13 13:51:17 2013
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 15:51:17 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Beauty rings
In-Reply-To: <CALOjD__gdrTBgZPVGT-FdkXYKuUnS=H_Pt7hxhpKAVez5zZkdA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALOjD__gdrTBgZPVGT-FdkXYKuUnS=H_Pt7hxhpKAVez5zZkdA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEtYKvZTknbxdHRhAL6RLdCqgcSv0PSGmSq0KRHoeA+OMw@mail.gmail.com>

  Junk yard!  Look for 70 and 80s Chrysler's.


On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 1:57 PM, <twokeelya at gmail.com> wrote:

> Greetings, I've been trying to find beauty rings for my roadster. I've
> tried JC Whitney, nissanparts.com, many many tire and wheel shops. Does
> anyone know where they can really be found?
>
> Thanks
>
> Richard
> ________________________________________
>
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From wilhouse400 at att.net  Mon May 13 15:01:24 2013
From: wilhouse400 at att.net (Kendall Williams)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 14:01:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Beauty rings
In-Reply-To: <CAFEMhEtYKvZTknbxdHRhAL6RLdCqgcSv0PSGmSq0KRHoeA+OMw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALOjD__gdrTBgZPVGT-FdkXYKuUnS=H_Pt7hxhpKAVez5zZkdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFEMhEtYKvZTknbxdHRhAL6RLdCqgcSv0PSGmSq0KRHoeA+OMw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1368478884.80492.YahooMailRC@web184704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Wasn't there just a thread about these??
Maybe on 311s.org and not on the email list??
I'll check e-mail when I get home, but may be worth searching on the mother 
ship.
Ken

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Mon May 13 17:23:09 2013
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 16:23:09 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] replacement tires
In-Reply-To: <1368469566.83900.YahooMailClassic@web162104.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1368469566.83900.YahooMailClassic@web162104.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU168-W100344F0F0ADBD75EA4EE23DFA00@phx.gbl>

coker??

Peter Harrison
818 448 3181

 > Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 11:26:06 -0700
> From: funkaholik at yahoo.com
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] replacement tires
>
> If you want whitewalls in that size, they are getting harder to find.
Black
> walls are easy.Hankook Mileage Plus II H725 has a whitewall in 185/70-14.
>  They are available at Summit Racing for  $83.  Onlinetires.com has them
much
> cheaper, at $55, but they are out of stock until sometime in June. I'm
> waiting...
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From sandhoff at csus.edu  Tue May 14 10:58:22 2013
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 09:58:22 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] (Fwd) 510 and roadster windshields
Message-ID: <51920ABE.15247.3B4E30@localhost>

This popped up on the 510 list, I didn't see it mirrored over here
so thought I'd pass it along.

Carter is a longtime 510'er and has contributed a lot to the 510 group
thru the years. This isn't the first group buy he's arranged.

As I recall, last time around Carter arranged a group shipment to
the west coast.

------- Forwarded message follows -------
From:           	Carter Boad <CarterB at Electroimpact.com>
To:             	"BB List (bluebird510 at googlegroups.com)" <bluebird510 at googlegroups.com>
Subject:        	[Bluebird510] 510 and roadster windshields
Date sent:      	Tue, 14 May 2013 04:12:38 +0000
Send reply to:  	<CARTERB at electroimpact.com>

I have an opportunity to buy another crate of new Datsun 510 windshields.  I can also get tall roadster windshields.
Price on the 510 glass will be $150-$160 depending on how many I order.
Price on the roadster glass will be $210-220 depending on the same.  (is that a good price?  I've never looked at roadster windshields before)
They would be available for pick-up in Lynnwood, WA  late May-Early June.
Let me know if you are interested, thanks.
--carter
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From futofab at gsinet.net  Tue May 14 11:16:28 2013
From: futofab at gsinet.net (David Patten)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 13:16:28 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] (Fwd) 510 and roadster windshields
In-Reply-To: <51920ABE.15247.3B4E30@localhost>
References: <51920ABE.15247.3B4E30@localhost>
Message-ID: <CAC08eSMgVcG_X4sOsR61MuXi=-jVMVy2QTfyVQTHaUEvwEF53Q@mail.gmail.com>

I beleive Carter may be purchasing a full box from Richard Tankel at
ProSource Glass in Andover, MA.

ProSource is about the only US source I have found that deals in older
Datsuns. I have bought 1200 Coupe and 510 windshields from him. Excellent
guy to deal with.
http://www.prosourceglassintl.com/

Dave Patten, Owner

FutoFab, LLC
199 Stark Hwy So
Dunbarton, NH 03046

Website - www.FutoFab.com <http://www.futofab.com/>
e-mail - dave at futofab.com


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:58 PM, John F Sandhoff <sandhoff at csus.edu> wrote:

> This popped up on the 510 list, I didn't see it mirrored over here
> so thought I'd pass it along.
>
> Carter is a longtime 510'er and has contributed a lot to the 510 group
> thru the years. This isn't the first group buy he's arranged.
>
> As I recall, last time around Carter arranged a group shipment to
> the west coast.
>
> ------- Forwarded message follows -------
> From:                   Carter Boad <CarterB at Electroimpact.com>
> To:                     "BB List (bluebird510 at googlegroups.com)" <
> bluebird510 at googlegroups.com>
> Subject:                [Bluebird510] 510 and roadster windshields
> Date sent:              Tue, 14 May 2013 04:12:38 +0000
> Send reply to:          <CARTERB at electroimpact.com>
>
> I have an opportunity to buy another crate of new Datsun 510 windshields.
>  I can also get tall roadster windshields.
> Price on the 510 glass will be $150-$160 depending on how many I order.
> Price on the roadster glass will be $210-220 depending on the same.  (is
> that a good price?  I've never looked at roadster windshields before)
> They would be available for pick-up in Lynnwood, WA  late May-Early June.
> Let me know if you are interested, thanks.
> --carter
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
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>
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From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Tue May 14 12:28:23 2013
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 14:28:23 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Wiring harness, 1600 vs 2000?
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEucuEd7+5bmp4d3pq2eXwh09n+Qo3CSp8ZYnMETXDV1hg@mail.gmail.com>

I need to rip out all the POs wiring work under the dash and start over.  I
have a '69 2000 wiring harness.  Anybody know if it will work?  Minor
modifications?  No way in heck!?

  My 1969 1600 is a "type 2" according to Rallye.

Paul
Ohio

From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Tue May 14 12:36:36 2013
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 13:36:36 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Wiring harness, 1600 vs 2000?
In-Reply-To: <CAFEMhEucuEd7+5bmp4d3pq2eXwh09n+Qo3CSp8ZYnMETXDV1hg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFEMhEucuEd7+5bmp4d3pq2eXwh09n+Qo3CSp8ZYnMETXDV1hg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMHhs6e14JcDR_i7kKax=mc3gREqoB3Ebod0DWxtQNJ=eViF_A@mail.gmail.com>

Paul, check out the wiring diagram PDFs in the Tech Wiki section on 311s.org.
They're great. Shouldn't cost more than $5 to get one printed fairly large
and laminated.


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>wrote:

> I need to rip out all the POs wiring work under the dash and start over.  I
> have a '69 2000 wiring harness.  Anybody know if it will work?  Minor
> modifications?  No way in heck!?
>
>   My 1969 1600 is a "type 2" according to Rallye.
>
> Paul
> Ohio
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From tputland at charter.net  Tue May 14 13:42:00 2013
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 15:42:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Wiring harness, 1600 vs 2000?
Message-ID: <1a0a277.1de95b.13ea49053e2.Webtop.49@charter.net>

Replies to the list on this one please folks. Thanks!


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Paul Kort wrote:

> I need to rip out all the POs wiring work under the dash and start 
> over.  I
> have a '69 2000 wiring harness.  Anybody know if it will work?  Minor
> modifications?  No way in heck!?
>
>   My 1969 1600 is a "type 2" according to Rallye.
>
> Paul
> Ohio
> _________________

From hrhaslett at yahoo.com  Tue May 14 13:55:17 2013
From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 12:55:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Beauty rings
In-Reply-To: <CALOjD__gdrTBgZPVGT-FdkXYKuUnS=H_Pt7hxhpKAVez5zZkdA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALOjD__gdrTBgZPVGT-FdkXYKuUnS=H_Pt7hxhpKAVez5zZkdA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1368561317.15548.YahooMailNeo@web162005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Try Pep Boys




________________________________
 From: "twokeelya at gmail.com" <twokeelya at gmail.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net 
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 10:57 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Beauty rings
 

Greetings, I've been trying to find beauty rings for my roadster. I've
tried JC Whitney, nissanparts.com, many many tire and wheel shops. Does
anyone know where they can really be found?

Thanks

Richard
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From tputland at charter.net  Tue May 14 14:08:11 2013
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 16:08:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Beauty rings
Message-ID: <780b100b.1ded55.13ea4a845f3.Webtop.49@charter.net>

This might help.....

http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18200

tim




On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:57 PM, twokeelya at gmail.com wrote:

> Greetings, I've been trying to find beauty rings for my roadster. I've
> tried JC Whitney, nissanparts.com, many many tire and wheel shops. 
> Does
> anyone know where they can really be found?
>
> Thanks
>
> Richard
> ________________________________________

From shifty at shiftco.com  Tue May 14 14:27:01 2013
From: shifty at shiftco.com (shifty at shiftco.com)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 13:27:01 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Wiring harness, 1600 vs 2000?
In-Reply-To: <CAFEMhEucuEd7+5bmp4d3pq2eXwh09n+Qo3CSp8ZYnMETXDV1hg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFEMhEucuEd7+5bmp4d3pq2eXwh09n+Qo3CSp8ZYnMETXDV1hg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3116683ea9c39d41a8899f01acb3536e.squirrel@webmail.shiftco.com>

AFAIK, the only difference is the routing/length of the water temp sensor
wires.

Leigh Brooks

> I need to rip out all the POs wiring work under the dash and start over.
> I
> have a '69 2000 wiring harness.  Anybody know if it will work?  Minor
> modifications?  No way in heck!?
>
>   My 1969 1600 is a "type 2" according to Rallye.
>
> Paul
> Ohio
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>
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>
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Tue May 14 20:15:28 2013
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 19:15:28 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] (Fwd) 510 and roadster windshields
In-Reply-To: <CAC08eSMgVcG_X4sOsR61MuXi=-jVMVy2QTfyVQTHaUEvwEF53Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51920ABE.15247.3B4E30@localhost>,
	<CAC08eSMgVcG_X4sOsR61MuXi=-jVMVy2QTfyVQTHaUEvwEF53Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU168-W133DD33827B2311BAEEA876DFA20@phx.gbl>

thought dean had some

Peter Harrison
818 448 3181

 > Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 13:16:28 -0400
> From: futofab at gsinet.net
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (Fwd) 510 and roadster windshields
>
> I beleive Carter may be purchasing a full box from Richard Tankel at
> ProSource Glass in Andover, MA.
>
> ProSource is about the only US source I have found that deals in older
> Datsuns. I have bought 1200 Coupe and 510 windshields from him. Excellent
> guy to deal with.
> http://www.prosourceglassintl.com/
>
> Dave Patten, Owner
>
> FutoFab, LLC
> 199 Stark Hwy So
> Dunbarton, NH 03046
>
> Website - www.FutoFab.com <http://www.futofab.com/>
> e-mail - dave at futofab.com
>
>
> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:58 PM, John F Sandhoff <sandhoff at csus.edu>
wrote:
>
> > This popped up on the 510 list, I didn't see it mirrored over here
> > so thought I'd pass it along.
> >
> > Carter is a longtime 510'er and has contributed a lot to the 510 group
> > thru the years. This isn't the first group buy he's arranged.
> >
> > As I recall, last time around Carter arranged a group shipment to
> > the west coast.
> >
> > ------- Forwarded message follows -------
> > From:                   Carter Boad <CarterB at Electroimpact.com>
> > To:                     "BB List (bluebird510 at googlegroups.com)" <
> > bluebird510 at googlegroups.com>
> > Subject:                [Bluebird510] 510 and roadster windshields
> > Date sent:              Tue, 14 May 2013 04:12:38 +0000
> > Send reply to:          <CARTERB at electroimpact.com>
> >
> > I have an opportunity to buy another crate of new Datsun 510 windshields.
> >  I can also get tall roadster windshields.
> > Price on the 510 glass will be $150-$160 depending on how many I order.
> > Price on the roadster glass will be $210-220 depending on the same.  (is
> > that a good price?  I've never looked at roadster windshields before)
> > They would be available for pick-up in Lynnwood, WA  late May-Early June.
> > Let me know if you are interested, thanks.
> > --carter
> >
> >
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------
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> >
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue May 14 20:20:21 2013
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 02:20:21 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] (Fwd) 510 and roadster windshields
In-Reply-To: <BLU168-W133DD33827B2311BAEEA876DFA20@phx.gbl>
References: <51920ABE.15247.3B4E30@localhost> ,
	<CAC08eSMgVcG_X4sOsR61MuXi=-jVMVy2QTfyVQTHaUEvwEF53Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU168-W133DD33827B2311BAEEA876DFA20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1898444644-1368584423-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1173203416-@b15.c20.bise6.blackberry>

He does. 

Pete
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: peter harrison <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>
Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Tue, 14 May 2013 19:15:28 
To: datsun<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (Fwd) 510 and roadster windshields

thought dean had some

Peter Harrison
818 448 3181

 > Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 13:16:28 -0400
> From: futofab at gsinet.net
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (Fwd) 510 and roadster windshields
>
> I beleive Carter may be purchasing a full box from Richard Tankel at
> ProSource Glass in Andover, MA.
>
> ProSource is about the only US source I have found that deals in older
> Datsuns. I have bought 1200 Coupe and 510 windshields from him. Excellent
> guy to deal with.
> http://www.prosourceglassintl.com/
>
> Dave Patten, Owner
>
> FutoFab, LLC
> 199 Stark Hwy So
> Dunbarton, NH 03046
>
> Website - www.FutoFab.com <http://www.futofab.com/>
> e-mail - dave at futofab.com
>
>
> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:58 PM, John F Sandhoff <sandhoff at csus.edu>
wrote:
>
> > This popped up on the 510 list, I didn't see it mirrored over here
> > so thought I'd pass it along.
> >
> > Carter is a longtime 510'er and has contributed a lot to the 510 group
> > thru the years. This isn't the first group buy he's arranged.
> >
> > As I recall, last time around Carter arranged a group shipment to
> > the west coast.
> >
> > ------- Forwarded message follows -------
> > From:                   Carter Boad <CarterB at Electroimpact.com>
> > To:                     "BB List (bluebird510 at googlegroups.com)" <
> > bluebird510 at googlegroups.com>
> > Subject:                [Bluebird510] 510 and roadster windshields
> > Date sent:              Tue, 14 May 2013 04:12:38 +0000
> > Send reply to:          <CARTERB at electroimpact.com>
> >
> > I have an opportunity to buy another crate of new Datsun 510 windshields.
> >  I can also get tall roadster windshields.
> > Price on the 510 glass will be $150-$160 depending on how many I order.
> > Price on the roadster glass will be $210-220 depending on the same.  (is
> > that a good price?  I've never looked at roadster windshields before)
> > They would be available for pick-up in Lynnwood, WA  late May-Early June.
> > Let me know if you are interested, thanks.
> > --carter
> >
> >
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------
> > ________________________________________
> >
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> >
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From spedlyy at comcast.net  Tue May 14 22:31:22 2013
From: spedlyy at comcast.net (Spedlyy)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 21:31:22 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] replacement tires
In-Reply-To: <1368469566.83900.YahooMailClassic@web162104.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1368469566.83900.YahooMailClassic@web162104.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CE532D51AD1C4F88A86A7986B252D8B1@XPS2008>

Last summer I had my stock wheels powder coated and mounted 185/75-14 Toyo 
Eclipse white walls from Les Schwab. They're just all season tires - nothing 
fancy. Haven't driven on them, so I can't report on performance. I don't 
recall what I paid, but it wasn't outrageous.

Ed
Everett, WA
'68 1600

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Erik Miller" <funkaholik at yahoo.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] replacement tires


> If you want whitewalls in that size, they are getting harder to find. 
> Black
> walls are easy.Hankook Mileage Plus II H725 has a whitewall in 185/70-14.
> They are available at Summit Racing for  $83.  Onlinetires.com has them 
> much
> cheaper, at $55, but they are out of stock until sometime in June. I'm
> waiting...
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From aultgc at att.net  Tue May 14 22:41:42 2013
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 23:41:42 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Wiring harness, 1600 vs 2000?
References: <CAFEMhEucuEd7+5bmp4d3pq2eXwh09n+Qo3CSp8ZYnMETXDV1hg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CD894DFD248A48DD8ECA9B80532BF8AF@gaxp1>

Paul,

I have little experience with the high-windshield cars, but I think that, 
electrically, the 1600 and the 2000 are the same, with the exception of the 
lead wire for the temperature sensor that "Shifty" mentioned.  However, 
Nissan does list different part numbers for the 1600 and 2000 instrument 
harnesses produced in the same time frames, i.e., "to June 1969".  The 1969 
wiring harnesses came in two flavors  -- one for the first half of the year 
and one for the second half of the year.  The differences could be very 
subtle, though, like a single connector.  At some point in the '69 time 
frame,  they did go to three-wire taillamps, and wired them so the brake 
activated both upper and lower lights, and the turn signals flashed both 
upper and lower.  That had to have involved some wiring differences under 
the dash.

FWIW, but remember, I don't know much about the later cars.

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Kort" <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
To: "Roadster Stuff" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 1:28 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Wiring harness, 1600 vs 2000?


>I need to rip out all the POs wiring work under the dash and start over.  I
> have a '69 2000 wiring harness.  Anybody know if it will work?  Minor
> modifications?  No way in heck!?
>
>  My 1969 1600 is a "type 2" according to Rallye.
>
> Paul
> Ohio
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From ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com  Wed May 15 11:59:06 2013
From: ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com (Stan)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 10:59:06 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster on Hagerty's News
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP150D30A727ED4C167BDC061B4A20@phx.gbl>

Roadsters made an appearance on the Hagerty Insurance  newsletter.

http://www.hagerty.com/Classic-car-articles-resources/HowTo/Buying-and-Selling/All-articles/2013/05/13/Japanese-cars?utm_source=ExactTarget&utm_medium=email&utm_term=&utm_content=&utm_campaign=Hagerty%20Weekly%20News%2005-15-2013

Stan

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Wed May 15 17:03:06 2013
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 16:03:06 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster on Hagerty's News
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP150D30A727ED4C167BDC061B4A20@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP150D30A727ED4C167BDC061B4A20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <009f01ce51c0$5ca7baf0$15f730d0$@net>

Cool! And they list average price for a "Good" condition 2000 as $20,618
with a concours-condition car going for $38,000!

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Stan
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:59 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster on Hagerty's News

Roadsters made an appearance on the Hagerty Insurance  newsletter.

http://www.hagerty.com/Classic-car-articles-resources/HowTo/Buying-and-Selli
ng/All-articles/2013/05/13/Japanese-cars?utm_source=ExactTarget&utm_medium=e
mail&utm_term=&utm_content=&utm_campaign=Hagerty%20Weekly%20News%2005-15-201
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Wed May 15 19:11:41 2013
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 18:11:41 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster on Hagerty's News
In-Reply-To: <009f01ce51c0$5ca7baf0$15f730d0$@net>
References: <BLU0-SMTP150D30A727ED4C167BDC061B4A20@phx.gbl>,
	<009f01ce51c0$5ca7baf0$15f730d0$@net>
Message-ID: <BLU168-W36F506DDB6F48BFFA0A8C5DFA30@phx.gbl>

I wonder how many Condition #1 cars are out there (regardless of year/engine
size). Noting that they must be completely ACCURATE in ALL details and
restored to as off the dealer's floor.

I saw some BEAUTIFUL cars at Solvang, but how many could meet the above
criteria (forgetting some dirt - if they drove it there )



Peter Harrison
818 448 3181


> From: gsglasgow at comcast.net
> To: ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 16:03:06 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster on Hagerty's News
>
> Cool! And they list average price for a "Good" condition 2000 as $20,618
> with a concours-condition car going for $38,000!
>
> Gordon Glasgow
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Stan
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:59 AM
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster on Hagerty's News
>
> Roadsters made an appearance on the Hagerty Insurance  newsletter.
>
>
http://www.hagerty.com/Classic-car-articles-resources/HowTo/Buying-and-Selli
>
ng/All-articles/2013/05/13/Japanese-cars?utm_source=ExactTarget&utm_medium=e
>
mail&utm_term=&utm_content=&utm_campaign=Hagerty%20Weekly%20News%2005-15-201
> 3
>
> Stan
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From futofab at gsinet.net  Thu May 16 10:46:58 2013
From: futofab at gsinet.net (David Patten)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 12:46:58 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster on Hagerty's News
In-Reply-To: <BLU168-W36F506DDB6F48BFFA0A8C5DFA30@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP150D30A727ED4C167BDC061B4A20@phx.gbl>
	<009f01ce51c0$5ca7baf0$15f730d0$@net>
	<BLU168-W36F506DDB6F48BFFA0A8C5DFA30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAC08eSOcoeiXcrOoN-pn1yuPJDSzgWc-mB3vUCQZO7F9RY5T3A@mail.gmail.com>

Being an enthusiast of all things Datsun it always amazes me the number of
Datsuns that have been significantly modified.

Maybe its because the US collector market has totally discounted Japanese
imports as having value. Owners could buy these well built little cars on
the cheap and not be concerned with depreciating from any modifications.

Look at the 510 and try and find an unaltered example of one in good
condition today.  Cheap cars have always been the starting place for
modified hot rods and imports are no exception, just look at the original
VW Bug.

If a car in stock condition has limited market value, there isn't much
guilt felt when modifying it.


Dave Patten, Owner

FutoFab, LLC
199 Stark Hwy So
Dunbarton, NH 03046

Website - www.FutoFab.com <http://www.futofab.com/>
e-mail - dave at futofab.com


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:11 PM, peter harrison <
granvillecomputing at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I wonder how many Condition #1 cars are out there (regardless of
> year/engine
> size). Noting that they must be completely ACCURATE in ALL details and
> restored to as off the dealer's floor.
>
> I saw some BEAUTIFUL cars at Solvang, but how many could meet the above
> criteria (forgetting some dirt - if they drove it there )
>
>
>
> Peter Harrison
> 818 448 3181
>
>
> > From: gsglasgow at comcast.net
> > To: ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> > Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 16:03:06 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster on Hagerty's News
>  >
> > Cool! And they list average price for a "Good" condition 2000 as $20,618
> > with a concours-condition car going for $38,000!
> >
> > Gordon Glasgow
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Stan
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:59 AM
> > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> > Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster on Hagerty's News
> >
> > Roadsters made an appearance on the Hagerty Insurance  newsletter.
> >
> >
>
> http://www.hagerty.com/Classic-car-articles-resources/HowTo/Buying-and-Selli
> >
>
> ng/All-articles/2013/05/13/Japanese-cars?utm_source=ExactTarget&utm_medium=e
> >
>
> mail&utm_term=&utm_content=&utm_campaign=Hagerty%20Weekly%20News%2005-15-201
> > 3
> >
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> >
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From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Thu May 16 11:56:51 2013
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 13:56:51 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster on Hagerty's News
In-Reply-To: <CAC08eSOcoeiXcrOoN-pn1yuPJDSzgWc-mB3vUCQZO7F9RY5T3A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU0-SMTP150D30A727ED4C167BDC061B4A20@phx.gbl>
	<009f01ce51c0$5ca7baf0$15f730d0$@net>
	<BLU168-W36F506DDB6F48BFFA0A8C5DFA30@phx.gbl>
	<CAC08eSOcoeiXcrOoN-pn1yuPJDSzgWc-mB3vUCQZO7F9RY5T3A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEuDKg=7jR4xcytEH1RH0sTB8wTcnMJ7Umfxq1ED5kF_6w@mail.gmail.com>

  Hence the KA24 in my roadster.  With the high cost of rebuilding a R16 or
worse, a U20, engine swaps are fairly common.  GM alternator swaps and
Volvo or Toyota disc brakes have become fairly common.  But over the past
15+ years of owning my roadster, I've seen some very nice restorations back
to perfect stock Datsuns.

Paul
Ohio


On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:46 PM, David Patten <futofab at gsinet.net> wrote:

>
> If a car in stock condition has limited market value, there isn't much
> guilt felt when modifying it.
>
> Dave Patten, Owner

From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com  Thu May 16 17:34:59 2013
From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 19:34:59 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster on Hagerty's News
In-Reply-To: <CAFEMhEuDKg=7jR4xcytEH1RH0sTB8wTcnMJ7Umfxq1ED5kF_6w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU0-SMTP150D30A727ED4C167BDC061B4A20@phx.gbl>
	<009f01ce51c0$5ca7baf0$15f730d0$@net>
	<BLU168-W36F506DDB6F48BFFA0A8C5DFA30@phx.gbl>
	<CAC08eSOcoeiXcrOoN-pn1yuPJDSzgWc-mB3vUCQZO7F9RY5T3A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFEMhEuDKg=7jR4xcytEH1RH0sTB8wTcnMJ7Umfxq1ED5kF_6w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A607C4F4-82B5-4102-BBCB-92A217D84A41@rochester.rr.com>

I strive to keep my three roadsters stock, although only one is a numbers
matching. That's why I have two spare u20s, a couple of a 5 speeds and a R16
cluttering up my garage/shop.

My cars have stock engines, brakes, alternators, carbs, air boxes, fuel pumps,
even AM radios....

Some day, that $25k price will be all mine (insert evil laughing).

Joe

Sent from my iPad

On May 16, 2013, at 1:56 PM, Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Hence the KA24 in my roadster.  With the high cost of rebuilding a R16 or
> worse, a U20, engine swaps are fairly common.  GM alternator swaps and
> Volvo or Toyota disc brakes have become fairly common.  But over the past
> 15+ years of owning my roadster, I've seen some very nice restorations back
> to perfect stock Datsuns.
>
> Paul
> Ohio
>
>
> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:46 PM, David Patten <futofab at gsinet.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> If a car in stock condition has limited market value, there isn't much
>> guilt felt when modifying it.
>>
>> Dave Patten, Owner
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Thu May 16 18:06:56 2013
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 17:06:56 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster on Hagerty's News
In-Reply-To: <CAFEMhEuDKg=7jR4xcytEH1RH0sTB8wTcnMJ7Umfxq1ED5kF_6w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU0-SMTP150D30A727ED4C167BDC061B4A20@phx.gbl>
	<009f01ce51c0$5ca7baf0$15f730d0$@net>
	<BLU168-W36F506DDB6F48BFFA0A8C5DFA30@phx.gbl>
	<CAC08eSOcoeiXcrOoN-pn1yuPJDSzgWc-mB3vUCQZO7F9RY5T3A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFEMhEuDKg=7jR4xcytEH1RH0sTB8wTcnMJ7Umfxq1ED5kF_6w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <302E0336-7A0E-4A7C-8FEC-89C181F540AD@netscape.net>

Yes there is the high cost of rebuild that can drive the swap process, not
just a desire to change things.

Linda

Sent from my iPod

On May 16, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Hence the KA24 in my roadster.  With the high cost of rebuilding a R16 or
> worse, a U20, engine swaps are fairly common.  GM alternator swaps and
> Volvo or Toyota disc brakes have become fairly common.  But over the past
> 15+ years of owning my roadster, I've seen some very nice restorations back
> to perfect stock Datsuns.
>
> Paul
> Ohio
>
>
> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:46 PM, David Patten <futofab at gsinet.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> If a car in stock condition has limited market value, there isn't much
>> guilt felt when modifying it.
>>
>> Dave Patten, Owner
> ________________________________________
>
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From gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com  Thu May 16 18:26:51 2013
From: gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com (Gordon Maness)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 19:26:51 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster on Hagerty's News
In-Reply-To: <302E0336-7A0E-4A7C-8FEC-89C181F540AD@netscape.net>
References: <BLU0-SMTP150D30A727ED4C167BDC061B4A20@phx.gbl>,
	<009f01ce51c0$5ca7baf0$15f730d0$@net>,
	<BLU168-W36F506DDB6F48BFFA0A8C5DFA30@phx.gbl>,
	<CAC08eSOcoeiXcrOoN-pn1yuPJDSzgWc-mB3vUCQZO7F9RY5T3A@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAFEMhEuDKg=7jR4xcytEH1RH0sTB8wTcnMJ7Umfxq1ED5kF_6w@mail.gmail.com>,
	<302E0336-7A0E-4A7C-8FEC-89C181F540AD@netscape.net>
Message-ID: <SNT137-W3052F01A70EDCD6B8A1375B2AC0@phx.gbl>

Thus  the prolific use of one-wire alternators.

g with a fleet

> From: ljordan704 at netscape.net
> Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 17:06:56 -0700
> To: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com
> CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster on Hagerty's News
>
> Yes there is the high cost of rebuild that can drive the swap process, not
> just a desire to change things.
>
> Linda
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On May 16, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >  Hence the KA24 in my roadster.  With the high cost of rebuilding a R16
or
> > worse, a U20, engine swaps are fairly common.  GM alternator swaps and
> > Volvo or Toyota disc brakes have become fairly common.  But over the past
> > 15+ years of owning my roadster, I've seen some very nice restorations
back
> > to perfect stock Datsuns.
> >
> > Paul
> > Ohio
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:46 PM, David Patten <futofab at gsinet.net>
wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> If a car in stock condition has limited market value, there isn't much
> >> guilt felt when modifying it.
> >>
> >> Dave Patten, Owner
> > ________________________________________
> >
> > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
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From greg at bciitv.com  Thu May 16 18:25:07 2013
From: greg at bciitv.com (Greg Glass)
Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 00:25:07 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster on Hagerty's News
In-Reply-To: <SNT137-W3052F01A70EDCD6B8A1375B2AC0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP150D30A727ED4C167BDC061B4A20@phx.gbl>,
	<009f01ce51c0$5ca7baf0$15f730d0$@net>,
	<BLU168-W36F506DDB6F48BFFA0A8C5DFA30@phx.gbl>,
	<CAC08eSOcoeiXcrOoN-pn1yuPJDSzgWc-mB3vUCQZO7F9RY5T3A@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAFEMhEuDKg=7jR4xcytEH1RH0sTB8wTcnMJ7Umfxq1ED5kF_6w@mail.gmail.com>,
	<302E0336-7A0E-4A7C-8FEC-89C181F540AD@netscape.net>
	<SNT137-W3052F01A70EDCD6B8A1375B2AC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <cfbf96029a6b4667a09cec765e03e7cb@BCIMAIL.bciitv.local>

Yes, and all the crap that the extra amperage in that GM alternator powers -
electric fan, electric fuel pump, stereo, electronic ignition...

Greg Glass
66 1600 - far from original but drives great and all mine since '99

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Maness
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 5:27 PM
To: Linda J; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster on Hagerty's News

Thus  the prolific use of one-wire alternators.

g with a fleet

> From: ljordan704 at netscape.net
> Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 17:06:56 -0700
> To: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com
> CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster on Hagerty's News
>
> Yes there is the high cost of rebuild that can drive the swap process,
> not just a desire to change things.
>
> Linda
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On May 16, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >  Hence the KA24 in my roadster.  With the high cost of rebuilding a
> > R16
or
> > worse, a U20, engine swaps are fairly common.  GM alternator swaps
> > and Volvo or Toyota disc brakes have become fairly common.  But over
> > the past
> > 15+ years of owning my roadster, I've seen some very nice
> > 15+ restorations
back
> > to perfect stock Datsuns.
> >
> > Paul
> > Ohio
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:46 PM, David Patten <futofab at gsinet.net>
wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> If a car in stock condition has limited market value, there isn't
> >> much guilt felt when modifying it.
> >>
> >> Dave Patten, Owner
> > ________________________________________
> >
> > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> >
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Thu May 16 19:38:05 2013
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 18:38:05 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster on Hagerty's News
In-Reply-To: <cfbf96029a6b4667a09cec765e03e7cb@BCIMAIL.bciitv.local>
References: <BLU0-SMTP150D30A727ED4C167BDC061B4A20@phx.gbl>
	<009f01ce51c0$5ca7baf0$15f730d0$@net>
	<BLU168-W36F506DDB6F48BFFA0A8C5DFA30@phx.gbl>
	<CAC08eSOcoeiXcrOoN-pn1yuPJDSzgWc-mB3vUCQZO7F9RY5T3A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFEMhEuDKg=7jR4xcytEH1RH0sTB8wTcnMJ7Umfxq1ED5kF_6w@mail.gmail.com>
	<302E0336-7A0E-4A7C-8FEC-89C181F540AD@netscape.net>
	<SNT137-W3052F01A70EDCD6B8A1375B2AC0@phx.gbl>
	<cfbf96029a6b4667a09cec765e03e7cb@BCIMAIL.bciitv.local>
Message-ID: <E430C708-B139-4FCA-9417-A332816723E5@netscape.net>

No sense being stock if your car burns down due to the marginal wire etc
The idea is to keep them on the road, IMHO

Linda


Sent from my iPod

On May 16, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Greg Glass <greg at bciitv.com> wrote:

> Yes, and all the crap that the extra amperage in that GM alternator powers -
electric fan, electric fuel pump, stereo, electronic ignition...
>
> Greg Glass
> 66 1600 - far from original but drives great and all mine since '99
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Maness
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 5:27 PM
> To: Linda J; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster on Hagerty's News
>
> Thus  the prolific use of one-wire alternators.
>
> g with a fleet
>
>> From: ljordan704 at netscape.net
>> Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 17:06:56 -0700
>> To: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com
>> CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster on Hagerty's News
>>
>> Yes there is the high cost of rebuild that can drive the swap process,
>> not just a desire to change things.
>>
>> Linda
>>
>> Sent from my iPod
>>
>> On May 16, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>>> Hence the KA24 in my roadster.  With the high cost of rebuilding a
>>> R16
> or
>>> worse, a U20, engine swaps are fairly common.  GM alternator swaps
>>> and Volvo or Toyota disc brakes have become fairly common.  But over
>>> the past
>>> 15+ years of owning my roadster, I've seen some very nice
>>> 15+ restorations
> back
>>> to perfect stock Datsuns.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>> Ohio
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:46 PM, David Patten <futofab at gsinet.net>
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> If a car in stock condition has limited market value, there isn't
>>>> much guilt felt when modifying it.
>>>>
>>>> Dave Patten, Owner
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From ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com  Thu May 16 21:26:08 2013
From: ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com (Stan Wilkins)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 20:26:08 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster on Hagerty's News
In-Reply-To: <E430C708-B139-4FCA-9417-A332816723E5@netscape.net>
References: <BLU0-SMTP150D30A727ED4C167BDC061B4A20@phx.gbl>
	<009f01ce51c0$5ca7baf0$15f730d0$@net>
	<BLU168-W36F506DDB6F48BFFA0A8C5DFA30@phx.gbl>
	<CAC08eSOcoeiXcrOoN-pn1yuPJDSzgWc-mB3vUCQZO7F9RY5T3A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFEMhEuDKg=7jR4xcytEH1RH0sTB8wTcnMJ7Umfxq1ED5kF_6w@mail.gmail.com>
	<302E0336-7A0E-4A7C-8FEC-89C181F540AD@netscape.net>
	<SNT137-W3052F01A70EDCD6B8A1375B2AC0@phx.gbl>
	<cfbf96029a6b4667a09cec765e03e7cb@BCIMAIL.bciitv.local>
	<E430C708-B139-4FCA-9417-A332816723E5@netscape.net>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP3556768F707F4B461D8B408B4AC0@phx.gbl>

Agreed, and mine will have the later model engine when it gets done.  
However, I applaud those who intend to keep them stock as much as 
possible; they're more dedicated than I.  It takes more work and 
tinkering when things get that old.  I should know; I'm old. I've got a 
1930 Pontiac rumble seat roadster that will be my retirement project and 
I'm having a hard time convincing myself to not put a 455 with a 4 speed 
behind it into the thing.  The main things that drive my desire to keep 
it stock are it's relative rarity as a Pontiac plus it was built for 
export and spent its life in Uruguay and therefore is right hand drive.

Stan

On 5/16/2013 6:38 PM, Linda J wrote:
> No sense being stock if your car burns down due to the marginal wire etc
> The idea is to keep them on the road, IMHO
>
> Linda
>
>
> Sent from my iPod

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Thu May 16 21:40:56 2013
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 20:40:56 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster on Hagerty's News
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP3556768F707F4B461D8B408B4AC0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP150D30A727ED4C167BDC061B4A20@phx.gbl>,
	<009f01ce51c0$5ca7baf0$15f730d0$@net>,
	<BLU168-W36F506DDB6F48BFFA0A8C5DFA30@phx.gbl>,
	<CAC08eSOcoeiXcrOoN-pn1yuPJDSzgWc-mB3vUCQZO7F9RY5T3A@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAFEMhEuDKg=7jR4xcytEH1RH0sTB8wTcnMJ7Umfxq1ED5kF_6w@mail.gmail.com>,
	<302E0336-7A0E-4A7C-8FEC-89C181F540AD@netscape.net>,
	<SNT137-W3052F01A70EDCD6B8A1375B2AC0@phx.gbl>,
	<cfbf96029a6b4667a09cec765e03e7cb@BCIMAIL.bciitv.local>,
	<E430C708-B139-4FCA-9417-A332816723E5@netscape.net>,
	<BLU0-SMTP3556768F707F4B461D8B408B4AC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU168-W21BCD86E18DF9995054496DFAC0@phx.gbl>

There is more frequently a 'preservation' class at many car events. Garm
(owner of a pretty much unmolested, '49 Nash) may be invited to show his car
at Palos Verdes ( a pretty good Concours) - this does create an incentive to
just leave things alone (other than keeping it running) - but originality
(even with peeling paint, pitted chrome etc.) has an allure these days.
Tough call.

Peter Harrison
818 448 3181


> Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 20:26:08 -0700
> From: ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com
> CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster on Hagerty's News
>
> Agreed, and mine will have the later model engine when it gets done.
> However, I applaud those who intend to keep them stock as much as
> possible; they're more dedicated than I.  It takes more work and
> tinkering when things get that old.  I should know; I'm old. I've got a
> 1930 Pontiac rumble seat roadster that will be my retirement project and
> I'm having a hard time convincing myself to not put a 455 with a 4 speed
> behind it into the thing.  The main things that drive my desire to keep
> it stock are it's relative rarity as a Pontiac plus it was built for
> export and spent its life in Uruguay and therefore is right hand drive.
>
> Stan
>
> On 5/16/2013 6:38 PM, Linda J wrote:
> > No sense being stock if your car burns down due to the marginal wire etc
> > The idea is to keep them on the road, IMHO
> >
> > Linda
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPod
> ________________________________________
>
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From tputland at charter.net  Sat May 18 13:35:20 2013
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 15:35:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] starter wiring question
Message-ID: <524fc1db.820bef.13eb923a37f.Webtop.43@charter.net>

This starter is different enough from the stock part that my wiring 
diagram is not helping.

What terminal gets the cable from the battery please:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/82293958 at N06/8751445890/in/photostream

Thanks
tim

From bubwin at mymts.net  Sat May 18 13:37:13 2013
From: bubwin at mymts.net (Bob Winslade)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 19:37:13 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] =?utf-8?q?starter_wiring_question?=
Message-ID: <BLU404-EAS221D9344E36ED84AAAC58DCD0AD0@phx.gbl>

 If you look closely, the terminal closest to the starter has a cable running into the starter.  The terminal farthest from the main body of the starter gets the battery cable.  If you were to place it on the one closest the starter would spin all the time, until it self destructs. 


Bob



Sent from Windows Mail



From: Tim
Sent: bSaturdayb, bMayb b18b, b2013 b2b:b35b bPM
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net


This starter is different enough from the stock part that my wiring 
diagram is not helping.

What terminal gets the cable from the battery please:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/82293958 at N06/8751445890/in/photostream

Thanks
tim
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From tputland at charter.net  Sat May 18 16:09:42 2013
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 18:09:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] starter wiring question
Message-ID: <1d4f0c51.200691.13eb9b0f55a.Webtop.49@charter.net>

Got my answer.
thanks


On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Tim wrote:

> This starter is different enough from the stock part that my wiring 
> diagram is not helping.
>
> What terminal gets the cable from the battery please:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/82293958 at N06/8751445890/in/photostream
>
> Thanks
> tim
> __________________

From d_kroninger at hotmail.com  Mon May 20 11:28:44 2013
From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 12:28:44 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake question
Message-ID: <BLU405-EAS118D34FD3A3F2881D91828C9BAF0@phx.gbl>

All,

I have an issue with my brakes that I have had since I bought the car.  On
shorter drives, I have no issues, but when I drive for more than an hour I get
this squeak from the brakes.  It sounds like a squealer on modern disc brakes
to alert when the pads are getting low.  I get it on both front brakes but not
all the time and not always at the same time.  Stepping on the brakes makes it
go away for a while, but the it comes back.  Some times it is a chirp chirp
chirp and other times its a constant squeal.

So far, I have replaced the hoses with stainless steal, replaced the pads,
rebuilt the calipers, and bled the brakes several times.  They are correctly
and fully adjusted.  Any thoughts as to the cause?  It seems like the calipers
are not retracting completely, but I don't know why.  The problems seems worse
on hot days, but happens in the cold too.

The pads are a bit tight in the caliper.  should they be filed down on the
edges?

Thanks in advance for your knowledge.

Dan
Dairyland Datsuns
68 1600.

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Mon May 20 11:59:33 2013
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 10:59:33 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake question
In-Reply-To: <BLU405-EAS118D34FD3A3F2881D91828C9BAF0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU405-EAS118D34FD3A3F2881D91828C9BAF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <52956FB1-AA58-4268-9206-F0B633C51AF3@netscape.net>

Dan
The pads should be filed down, and perhaps on hot days and with more use the
pads "swell"? Don't know, just wondering

Linda

Sent from my iPod

On May 20, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Dan Kroninger <d_kroninger at hotmail.com> wrote:

> All,
>
> I have an issue with my brakes that I have had since I bought the car.  On
> shorter drives, I have no issues, but when I drive for more than an hour I
get
> this squeak from the brakes.  It sounds like a squealer on modern disc
brakes
> to alert when the pads are getting low.  I get it on both front brakes but
not
> all the time and not always at the same time.  Stepping on the brakes makes
it
> go away for a while, but the it comes back.  Some times it is a chirp chirp
> chirp and other times its a constant squeal.
>
> So far, I have replaced the hoses with stainless steal, replaced the pads,
> rebuilt the calipers, and bled the brakes several times.  They are
correctly
> and fully adjusted.  Any thoughts as to the cause?  It seems like the
calipers
> are not retracting completely, but I don't know why.  The problems seems
worse
> on hot days, but happens in the cold too.
>
> The pads are a bit tight in the caliper.  should they be filed down on the
> edges?
>
> Thanks in advance for your knowledge.
>
> Dan
> Dairyland Datsuns
> 68 1600.
> ________________________________________
>
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From tpb73 at yahoo.com  Mon May 20 12:14:54 2013
From: tpb73 at yahoo.com (Pete Koernig)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 11:14:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 5, Issue 114
In-Reply-To: <mailman.4.1369072802.29291.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.4.1369072802.29291.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <1369073694.39634.YahooMailNeo@web122604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I'd file a 45 degree angle on to the leading edge of the  pads (known as a
"Volvo" cut in the 80's) and see if that changes anything.
Cheap and quick
 
Pete Koernig '70 1600 we brakes rebuilt in 2008
>________________________________
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>All,
>
>I have an issue with my brakes that I have had since I
bought the car.  On
>shorter drives, I have no issues, but when I drive for
more than an hour I get
>this squeak from the brakes.  It sounds like a
squealer on modern disc brakes
>to alert when the pads are getting low.  I get
it on both front brakes but not
>all the time and not always at the same
time.  Stepping on the brakes makes it
>go away for a while, but the it comes
back.  Some times it is a chirp chirp
>chirp and other times its a constant
squeal.
>
>So far, I have replaced the hoses with stainless steal, replaced
the pads,
>rebuilt the calipers, and bled the brakes several times.  They are
correctly
>and fully adjusted.  Any thoughts as to the cause?  It seems like
the calipers
>are not retracting completely, but I don't know why.  The
problems seems worse
>on hot days, but happens in the cold too.
>
>The pads
are a bit tight in the caliper.  should they be filed down on the
>edges?
>
>Thanks in advance for your knowledge.
>
>Dan
>Dairyland Datsuns
>68 1600.
>
>
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From hrhaslett at yahoo.com  Mon May 20 12:22:58 2013
From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 11:22:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake question
In-Reply-To: <52956FB1-AA58-4268-9206-F0B633C51AF3@netscape.net>
References: <BLU405-EAS118D34FD3A3F2881D91828C9BAF0@phx.gbl>
	<52956FB1-AA58-4268-9206-F0B633C51AF3@netscape.net>
Message-ID: <1369074178.27766.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Dan,
What type of pads are you using?  They should be organic on our stock
rotors...if you are running mettalic or ceramic you can run into trouble.
Roy
________________________________
From: Linda J <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
To:
Dan Kroninger <d_kroninger at hotmail.com> 
Cc: Datsun Mailing List
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake question


Dan
The pads should be filed down,
and perhaps on hot days and with more use the
pads "swell"? Don't know, just
wondering

Linda

Sent from my iPod

On May 20, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Dan
Kroninger <d_kroninger at hotmail.com> wrote:

> All,
>
> I have an issue with my
brakes that I have had since I bought the car.  On
> shorter drives, I have no
issues, but when I drive for more than an hour I
get
> this squeak from the
brakes.  It sounds like a squealer on modern disc
brakes
> to alert when the
pads are getting low.  I get it on both front brakes but
not
> all the time
and not always at the same time.  Stepping on the brakes makes
it
> go away
for a while, but the it comes back.  Some times it is a chirp chirp
> chirp
and other times its a constant squeal.
>
> So far, I have replaced the hoses
with stainless steal, replaced the pads,
> rebuilt the calipers, and bled the
brakes several times.  They are
correctly
> and fully adjusted.  Any thoughts
as to the cause?  It seems like the
calipers
> are not retracting completely,
but I don't know why.  The problems seems
worse
> on hot days, but happens in
the cold too.
>
> The pads are a bit tight in the caliper.  should they be
filed down on the
> edges?
>
> Thanks in advance for your knowledge.
>
> Dan
>
Dairyland Datsuns
> 68 1600.
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>
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From d_kroninger at hotmail.com  Mon May 20 12:24:43 2013
From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 13:24:43 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake question
In-Reply-To: <1369074178.27766.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <BLU405-EAS118D34FD3A3F2881D91828C9BAF0@phx.gbl>
	<52956FB1-AA58-4268-9206-F0B633C51AF3@netscape.net>
	<1369074178.27766.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU402-EAS184FD876292F0F2DA7279A99BAF0@phx.gbl>

They are the stock replacement pads purchased through Dean.  I believe they
are originally for a jag?

Sent from my iPhone

On May 20, 2013, at 1:22 PM, "Roy Haslett" <hrhaslett at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dan,
> What type of pads are you using?  They should be organic on our stock
rotors...if you are running mettalic or ceramic you can run into trouble.
> Roy
>
> From: Linda J <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
> To: Dan Kroninger <d_kroninger at hotmail.com>
> Cc: Datsun Mailing List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 10:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake question
>
> Dan
> The pads should be filed down, and perhaps on hot days and with more use
the
> pads "swell"? Don't know, just wondering
>
> Linda
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On May 20, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Dan Kroninger <d_kroninger at hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
> > All,
> >
> > I have an issue with my brakes that I have had since I bought the car.
On
> > shorter drives, I have no issues, but when I drive for more than an hour
I
> get
> > this squeak from the brakes.  It sounds like a squealer on modern disc
> brakes
> > to alert when the pads are getting low.  I get it on both front brakes
but
> not
> > all the time and not always at the same time.  Stepping on the brakes
makes
> it
> > go away for a while, but the it comes back.  Some times it is a chirp
chirp
> > chirp and other times its a constant squeal.
> >
> > So far, I have replaced the hoses with stainless steal, replaced the
pads,
> > rebuilt the calipers, and bled the brakes several times.  They are
> correctly
> > and fully adjusted.  Any thoughts as to the cause?  It seems like the
> calipers
> > are not retracting completely, but I don't know why.  The problems seems
> worse
> > on hot days, but happens in the cold too.
> >
> > The pads are a bit tight in the caliper.  should they be filed down on
the
> > edges?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your knowledge.
> >
> > Dan
> > Dairyland Datsuns
> > 68 1600.
> > ________________________________________
> >
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Mon May 20 12:26:42 2013
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 11:26:42 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake question
In-Reply-To: <BLU402-EAS184FD876292F0F2DA7279A99BAF0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU405-EAS118D34FD3A3F2881D91828C9BAF0@phx.gbl>
	<52956FB1-AA58-4268-9206-F0B633C51AF3@netscape.net>
	<1369074178.27766.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<BLU402-EAS184FD876292F0F2DA7279A99BAF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <A7921685-0216-4FF7-B89A-F4FCCB97F299@netscape.net>

The Tech Wiki on 311.org has info on pads also.

Linda

Sent from my iPod

On May 20, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Dan Kroninger <d_kroninger at hotmail.com> wrote:

> They are the stock replacement pads purchased through Dean.  I believe they
are originally for a jag?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 20, 2013, at 1:22 PM, "Roy Haslett" <hrhaslett at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Dan,
>> What type of pads are you using?  They should be organic on our stock
rotors...if you are running mettalic or ceramic you can run into trouble.
>> Roy
>>
>> From: Linda J <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
>> To: Dan Kroninger <d_kroninger at hotmail.com>
>> Cc: Datsun Mailing List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 10:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake question
>>
>> Dan
>> The pads should be filed down, and perhaps on hot days and with more use
the
>> pads "swell"? Don't know, just wondering
>>
>> Linda
>>
>> Sent from my iPod
>>
>> On May 20, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Dan Kroninger <d_kroninger at hotmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>> > All,
>> >
>> > I have an issue with my brakes that I have had since I bought the car.
On
>> > shorter drives, I have no issues, but when I drive for more than an hour
I
>> get
>> > this squeak from the brakes.  It sounds like a squealer on modern disc
>> brakes
>> > to alert when the pads are getting low.  I get it on both front brakes
but
>> not
>> > all the time and not always at the same time.  Stepping on the brakes
makes
>> it
>> > go away for a while, but the it comes back.  Some times it is a chirp
chirp
>> > chirp and other times its a constant squeal.
>> >
>> > So far, I have replaced the hoses with stainless steal, replaced the
pads,
>> > rebuilt the calipers, and bled the brakes several times.  They are
>> correctly
>> > and fully adjusted.  Any thoughts as to the cause?  It seems like the
>> calipers
>> > are not retracting completely, but I don't know why.  The problems seems
>> worse
>> > on hot days, but happens in the cold too.
>> >
>> > The pads are a bit tight in the caliper.  should they be filed down on
the
>> > edges?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance for your knowledge.
>> >
>> > Dan
>> > Dairyland Datsuns
>> > 68 1600.
>> > ________________________________________
>> >
>> > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>> >
>> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
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>>
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>> t
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From hrhaslett at yahoo.com  Mon May 20 12:32:45 2013
From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 11:32:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake question
In-Reply-To: <BLU402-EAS184FD876292F0F2DA7279A99BAF0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU405-EAS118D34FD3A3F2881D91828C9BAF0@phx.gbl>
	<52956FB1-AA58-4268-9206-F0B633C51AF3@netscape.net>
	<1369074178.27766.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<BLU402-EAS184FD876292F0F2DA7279A99BAF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1369074765.77186.YahooMailNeo@web162002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

I'm sure they are fine then.  When you rebuilt your calipers there is a guide
pin that the piston rides on, how did they look?  If that pin is bent your
piston will hang up (ask me how I know) and cause it to bind and not release
off the rotor.  Then the pad(s) will heat up and squeel.  If you tap the
breaks that will stop it momentarily.
Roy


________________________________
From: Dan Kroninger <d_kroninger at hotmail.com>
To: Roy Haslett
<hrhaslett at yahoo.com> 
Cc: Linda J <ljordan704 at netscape.net>; Datsun Mailing
List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake question



They are the stock replacement pads
purchased through Dean.  I believe they are originally for a jag?

Sent from
my iPhone

On May 20, 2013, at 1:22 PM, "Roy Haslett" <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
wrote:


Dan,
>What type of pads are you using?  They should be organic on our
stock rotors...if you are running mettalic or ceramic you can run into
trouble.
>Roy
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Linda J
<ljordan704 at netscape.net>
>To: Dan Kroninger <d_kroninger at hotmail.com> 
>Cc:
Datsun Mailing List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
>Sent: Monday, May 20,
2013 10:59 AM
>Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake question
>
>
>Dan
>The pads
should be filed down, and perhaps on hot days and with more use the
>pads
"swell"? Don't know, just wondering
>
>Linda
>
>Sent from my iPod
>
>On May
20, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Dan Kroninger <d_kroninger at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
All,
>>
>> I have an issue with my brakes that I have had since I bought the
car.  On
>> shorter drives, I have no issues, but when I drive for more than
an hour I
>get
>> this squeak from the brakes.  It sounds like a squealer on
modern disc
>brakes
>> to alert when the pads are getting low.  I get it on
both front brakes but
>not
>> all the time and not always at the same time. 
Stepping on the brakes makes
>it
>> go away for a while, but the it comes
back.  Some times it is a chirp chirp
>> chirp and other times its a constant
squeal.
>>
>> So far, I have replaced the hoses with stainless steal, replaced
the pads,
>> rebuilt the calipers, and bled the brakes several times.  They
are
>correctly
>> and fully adjusted.  Any thoughts as to the cause?  It seems
like the
>calipers
>> are not retracting completely, but I don't know why. 
The problems seems
>worse
>> on hot days, but happens in the cold too.
>>
>>
The pads are a bit tight in the caliper.  should they be filed down on the
>>
edges?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your knowledge.
>>
>> Dan
>> Dairyland
Datsuns
>> 68 1600.
>> ________________________________________
>>
>>
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
>> Unsubscribe:
>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne
>t
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>
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>
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From jsk977 at optonline.net  Mon May 20 13:14:00 2013
From: jsk977 at optonline.net (Jerry Krakauer)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 15:14:00 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake question
In-Reply-To: <BLU405-EAS118D34FD3A3F2881D91828C9BAF0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU405-EAS118D34FD3A3F2881D91828C9BAF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000a01ce558e$2f6d6ae0$8e4840a0$@net>

Actually, while I don't have a lot of knowledge of newer floating calipers,
on older designed fixed calipers the pads are always lightly rubbing on the
rotors, they do not retract. This wiping action is one of the reasons for
improved wet braking compared to drums. Identifying the cause of squeal is
one of those things that can drive you nuts. It may be caused by sympathetic
vibrations between the pad material and rotors. If that's the case you may
want to try anti-squeal compound on the backs of the pads. Or, you may want
to try an aggressive bed in procedure. On and off chirping can also indicate
disc run-out (many call it warping these days) Use a dial indicator to see
if the rotors are true. If not, they can be cut if still within tolerance. 

Also, these Dunlop calipers have no guide pins, Pins are used on floating
calipers, and yes the pads are the same as the series 1 XKE.

Jerry Krakauer
SRL311 00099

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dan Kroninger
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 1:29 PM
To: Datsun Mailing List
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake question

All,

I have an issue with my brakes that I have had since I bought the car.  On
shorter drives, I have no issues, but when I drive for more than an hour I
get this squeak from the brakes.  It sounds like a squealer on modern disc
brakes to alert when the pads are getting low.  I get it on both front
brakes but not all the time and not always at the same time.  Stepping on
the brakes makes it go away for a while, but the it comes back.  Some times
it is a chirp chirp chirp and other times its a constant squeal.

So far, I have replaced the hoses with stainless steal, replaced the pads,
rebuilt the calipers, and bled the brakes several times.  They are correctly
and fully adjusted.  Any thoughts as to the cause?  It seems like the
calipers are not retracting completely, but I don't know why.  The problems
seems worse on hot days, but happens in the cold too.

The pads are a bit tight in the caliper.  should they be filed down on the
edges?

Thanks in advance for your knowledge.

Dan
Dairyland Datsuns
68 1600.
________________________________________

From d_kroninger at hotmail.com  Mon May 20 13:18:16 2013
From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 14:18:16 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake question
In-Reply-To: <1369074765.77186.YahooMailNeo@web162002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <BLU405-EAS118D34FD3A3F2881D91828C9BAF0@phx.gbl>
	<52956FB1-AA58-4268-9206-F0B633C51AF3@netscape.net>
	<1369074178.27766.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<BLU402-EAS184FD876292F0F2DA7279A99BAF0@phx.gbl>
	<1369074765.77186.YahooMailNeo@web162002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU404-EAS25516F824F85142A2F362329BAF0@phx.gbl>

The pins looked good assuming I didn't bend them on reinstall.  I did that to
one and it was pretty obvious.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 20, 2013, at 1:32 PM, "Roy Haslett" <hrhaslett at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I'm sure they are fine then.  When you rebuilt your calipers there is a
guide pin that the piston rides on, how did they look?  If that pin is bent
your piston will hang up (ask me how I know) and cause it to bind and not
release off the rotor.  Then the pad(s) will heat up and squeel.  If you tap
the breaks that will stop it momentarily.
> Roy
>
> From: Dan Kroninger <d_kroninger at hotmail.com>
> To: Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
> Cc: Linda J <ljordan704 at netscape.net>; Datsun Mailing List
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 11:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake question
>
> They are the stock replacement pads purchased through Dean.  I believe they
are originally for a jag?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 20, 2013, at 1:22 PM, "Roy Haslett" <hrhaslett at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Dan,
>> What type of pads are you using?  They should be organic on our stock
rotors...if you are running mettalic or ceramic you can run into trouble.
>> Roy
>>
>> From: Linda J <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
>> To: Dan Kroninger <d_kroninger at hotmail.com>
>> Cc: Datsun Mailing List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 10:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake question
>>
>> Dan
>> The pads should be filed down, and perhaps on hot days and with more use
the
>> pads "swell"? Don't know, just wondering
>>
>> Linda
>>
>> Sent from my iPod
>>
>> On May 20, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Dan Kroninger <d_kroninger at hotmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>> > All,
>> >
>> > I have an issue with my brakes that I have had since I bought the car.
On
>> > shorter drives, I have no issues, but when I drive for more than an hour
I
>> get
>> > this squeak from the brakes.  It sounds like a squealer on modern disc
>> brakes
>> > to alert when the pads are getting low.  I get it on both front brakes
but
>> not
>> > all the time and not always at the same time.  Stepping on the brakes
makes
>> it
>> > go away for a while, but the it comes back.  Some times it is a chirp
chirp
>> > chirp and other times its a constant squeal.
>> >
>> > So far, I have replaced the hoses with stainless steal, replaced the
pads,
>> > rebuilt the calipers, and bled the brakes several times.  They are
>> correctly
>> > and fully adjusted.  Any thoughts as to the cause?  It seems like the
>> calipers
>> > are not retracting completely, but I don't know why.  The problems seems
>> worse
>> > on hot days, but happens in the cold too.
>> >
>> > The pads are a bit tight in the caliper.  should they be filed down on
the
>> > edges?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance for your knowledge.
>> >
>> > Dan
>> > Dairyland Datsuns
>> > 68 1600.
>> > ________________________________________
>> >
>> > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>> >
>> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
>> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
>> > Unsubscribe:
>>
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>> t
>> ________________________________________
>>
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>>
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From d_kroninger at hotmail.com  Mon May 20 13:19:59 2013
From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 14:19:59 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake question
In-Reply-To: <000a01ce558e$2f6d6ae0$8e4840a0$@net>
References: <BLU405-EAS118D34FD3A3F2881D91828C9BAF0@phx.gbl>
	<000a01ce558e$2f6d6ae0$8e4840a0$@net>
Message-ID: <BLU404-EAS203C48DDEC46AB6C7D5F33B9BAF0@phx.gbl>

I did apply disc brake quiet the the backs of the pads and that did help a
bit, but did not resolve completely.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 20, 2013, at 2:14 PM, "Jerry Krakauer" <jsk977 at optonline.net> wrote:

>
> Actually, while I don't have a lot of knowledge of newer floating calipers,
> on older designed fixed calipers the pads are always lightly rubbing on the
> rotors, they do not retract. This wiping action is one of the reasons for
> improved wet braking compared to drums. Identifying the cause of squeal is
> one of those things that can drive you nuts. It may be caused by
sympathetic
> vibrations between the pad material and rotors. If that's the case you may
> want to try anti-squeal compound on the backs of the pads. Or, you may want
> to try an aggressive bed in procedure. On and off chirping can also
indicate
> disc run-out (many call it warping these days) Use a dial indicator to see
> if the rotors are true. If not, they can be cut if still within tolerance.
>
> Also, these Dunlop calipers have no guide pins, Pins are used on floating
> calipers, and yes the pads are the same as the series 1 XKE.
>
> Jerry Krakauer
> SRL311 00099
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dan Kroninger
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 1:29 PM
> To: Datsun Mailing List
> Subject: [Roadsters] Brake question
>
> All,
>
> I have an issue with my brakes that I have had since I bought the car.  On
> shorter drives, I have no issues, but when I drive for more than an hour I
> get this squeak from the brakes.  It sounds like a squealer on modern disc
> brakes to alert when the pads are getting low.  I get it on both front
> brakes but not all the time and not always at the same time.  Stepping on
> the brakes makes it go away for a while, but the it comes back.  Some times
> it is a chirp chirp chirp and other times its a constant squeal.
>
> So far, I have replaced the hoses with stainless steal, replaced the pads,
> rebuilt the calipers, and bled the brakes several times.  They are
correctly
> and fully adjusted.  Any thoughts as to the cause?  It seems like the
> calipers are not retracting completely, but I don't know why.  The problems
> seems worse on hot days, but happens in the cold too.
>
> The pads are a bit tight in the caliper.  should they be filed down on the
> edges?
>
> Thanks in advance for your knowledge.
>
> Dan
> Dairyland Datsuns
> 68 1600.
> ________________________________________

From jsk977 at optonline.net  Mon May 20 13:34:18 2013
From: jsk977 at optonline.net (Jerry Krakauer)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 15:34:18 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake question
In-Reply-To: <BLU404-EAS203C48DDEC46AB6C7D5F33B9BAF0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU405-EAS118D34FD3A3F2881D91828C9BAF0@phx.gbl>
	<000a01ce558e$2f6d6ae0$8e4840a0$@net>
	<BLU404-EAS203C48DDEC46AB6C7D5F33B9BAF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000001ce5591$056977e0$103c67a0$@net>

Another thought, I remember that the thin metal disc shaped backing plate
with the tab had a habit of losing its bond with the pad material. Usually
never realized it until you went to pull the pads. Without pressure on the
brakes there could be enough space for it to vibrate. More useless facts: I
recall that besides the Jaguar the pads were also used on the original
Studebaker Avanti.

Jerry Krakauer
SRL311 00099
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Kroninger [mailto:d_kroninger at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 3:20 PM
To: Jerry Krakauer
Cc: Datsun Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake question

I did apply disc brake quiet the the backs of the pads and that did help a
bit, but did not resolve completely.  

Sent from my iPhone

On May 20, 2013, at 2:14 PM, "Jerry Krakauer" <jsk977 at optonline.net> wrote:

From az589 at lafn.org  Mon May 20 13:44:23 2013
From: az589 at lafn.org (Stan Chernoff)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 12:44:23 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake question
In-Reply-To: <000a01ce558e$2f6d6ae0$8e4840a0$@net>
References: <BLU405-EAS118D34FD3A3F2881D91828C9BAF0@phx.gbl>
	<000a01ce558e$2f6d6ae0$8e4840a0$@net>
Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20130520124212.044bfbf0@lafn.org>

The roadster calipers are designed to slightly retract the 
pads.  That is what the pin in the center of the piston does.  There 
is a clutchlike mechanism inside each piston.

Stan
=======

At 12:14 PM 5/20/2013, Jerry Krakauer wrote:
>Actually, while I don't have a lot of knowledge of newer floating calipers,
>on older designed fixed calipers the pads are always lightly rubbing on the
>rotors, they do not retract. This wiping action is one of the reasons for
>improved wet braking compared to drums. Identifying the cause of squeal is
>one of those things that can drive you nuts. It may be caused by sympathetic
>vibrations between the pad material and rotors. If that's the case you may
>want to try anti-squeal compound on the backs of the pads. Or, you may want
>to try an aggressive bed in procedure. On and off chirping can also indicate
>disc run-out (many call it warping these days) Use a dial indicator to see
>if the rotors are true. If not, they can be cut if still within tolerance.
>
>Also, these Dunlop calipers have no guide pins, Pins are used on floating
>calipers, and yes the pads are the same as the series 1 XKE.
>
>Jerry Krakauer
>SRL311 00099

From ArnoDiffusion at aol.com  Mon May 20 14:51:05 2013
From: ArnoDiffusion at aol.com (ArnoDiffusion at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 16:51:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] My new 68' 2000 with Solex.
Message-ID: <92f74.296e5b23.3ecbe6b8@aol.com>

Hello from France !
 
I first posted there last September when I bought a 68' 1600.
 
But I guess I was not motivated enough to retore it since I have even not  
started !
 
However, I love Datsun Roadsters.
 
So, I was secretely looking for a 2000 indeed.
 
And I just found one.
 
This car is in France since 1991, and has never been driven there.
 
It comes fitted with at least the Solex carbs and velocity stacks. How can  
I make sure whether itt was factory fitted ?
 
And I've began to list all the parts I do need.
 
I was wondering if it was reasonnable to upgrade the engine if it's got the 
 complete "solex" kit, and who could you advise me for finding performance  
original (if possible) parts.
 
I would also want to find tyres with "little" white walls.
 
Chassis number is 02721, and
 
engine number : 03239
 
Pls see the pics attached.
 
I would like to know :
 
- its original color combo, (it seems to have been silver over black)
 
- if I can get any further history in the USA.
 
Thx in advance.
 
Best regards from the French Riviera.
 
Pascal.

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From hrhaslett at yahoo.com  Mon May 20 16:39:48 2013
From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 15:39:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake question
In-Reply-To: <000a01ce558e$2f6d6ae0$8e4840a0$@net>
References: <BLU405-EAS118D34FD3A3F2881D91828C9BAF0@phx.gbl>
	<000a01ce558e$2f6d6ae0$8e4840a0$@net>
Message-ID: <1369089588.42894.YahooMailNeo@web162006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Jerry,  The Dunlop calipers do have guide pins inside.  The caliper piston
rides it.  If it is bent the piston will bind.  The hydraulic pressure will
force it on the rotor but when the pedal is released the piston does not back
off like it should causing the pads to rub and heat up.
________________________________
 From: Jerry Krakauer <jsk977 at optonline.net>
To: 'Dan Kroninger' <d_kroninger at hotmail.com>; 'Datsun Mailing List'
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake question
 

Actually, while I don't have a lot
of knowledge of newer floating calipers,
on older designed fixed calipers the
pads are always lightly rubbing on the
rotors, they do not retract. This
wiping action is one of the reasons for
improved wet braking compared to
drums. Identifying the cause of squeal is
one of those things that can drive
you nuts. It may be caused by sympathetic
vibrations between the pad material
and rotors. If that's the case you may
want to try anti-squeal compound on the
backs of the pads. Or, you may want
to try an aggressive bed in procedure. On
and off chirping can also indicate
disc run-out (many call it warping these
days) Use a dial indicator to see
if the rotors are true. If not, they can be
cut if still within tolerance. 

Also, these Dunlop calipers have no guide
pins, Pins are used on floating
calipers, and yes the pads are the same as the
series 1 XKE.

Jerry Krakauer
SRL311 00099

-----Original Message-----
From:
datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dan Kroninger
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 1:29 PM
To: Datsun Mailing List
Subject:
[Roadsters] Brake question

All,

I have an issue with my brakes that I have
had since I bought the car.  On
shorter drives, I have no issues, but when I
drive for more than an hour I
get this squeak from the brakes.  It sounds like
a squealer on modern disc
brakes to alert when the pads are getting low.  I
get it on both front
brakes but not all the time and not always at the same
time.  Stepping on
the brakes makes it go away for a while, but the it comes
back.  Some times
it is a chirp chirp chirp and other times its a constant
squeal.

So far, I have replaced the hoses with stainless steal, replaced the
pads,
rebuilt the calipers, and bled the brakes several times.  They are
correctly
and fully adjusted.  Any thoughts as to the cause?  It seems like
the
calipers are not retracting completely, but I don't know why.  The
problems
seems worse on hot days, but happens in the cold too.

The pads are a
bit tight in the caliper.  should they be filed down on the
edges?

Thanks in
advance for your knowledge.

Dan
Dairyland Datsuns
68 1600.
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From lousailor at yahoo.com  Mon May 20 21:29:13 2013
From: lousailor at yahoo.com (Louie Partida)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 20:29:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake question
In-Reply-To: <BLU405-EAS118D34FD3A3F2881D91828C9BAF0@phx.gbl>
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Make sure to check that the brake lines that wrap around the calipers are not
rubbing omn the back of the rim, that will cause an awful racket.
 
Louie
________________________________
 From: Dan Kroninger
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Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 1:28 PM
Subject:
[Roadsters] Brake question
  

All,

I have an issue with my brakes that I
have had since I bought the car.  On
shorter drives, I have no issues, but
when I drive for more than an hour I get
this squeak from the brakes.  It
sounds like a squealer on modern disc brakes
to alert when the pads are
getting low.  I get it on both front brakes but not
all the time and not
always at the same time.  Stepping on the brakes makes it
go away for a while,
but the it comes back.  Some times it is a chirp chirp
chirp and other times
its a constant squeal.

So far, I have replaced the hoses with stainless
steal, replaced the pads,
rebuilt the calipers, and bled the brakes several
times.  They are correctly
and fully adjusted.  Any thoughts as to the cause? 
It seems like the calipers
are not retracting completely, but I don't know
why.  The problems seems worse
on hot days, but happens in the cold too.

The
pads are a bit tight in the caliper.  should they be filed down on the
edges?
Thanks in advance for your knowledge.

Dan
Dairyland Datsuns
68 1600.
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Tue May 21 01:50:01 2013
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 00:50:01 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] My new 68' 2000 with Solex.
In-Reply-To: <92f74.296e5b23.3ecbe6b8@aol.com>
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Bonjour Pascal!
 Pics can not be attached here. On the 311s.org forum you can show pics.
I would like to see a pic of the Roadster on the Riviera, that would be very
nice. There are some owners in Holland. They post on the 311 forum.
Hope you find the parts that you need:-)

Linda

Sent from my iPod

On May 20, 2013, at 1:51 PM, ArnoDiffusion at aol.com wrote:

> Hello from France !
>
> I first posted there last September when I bought a 68' 1600.
>
> But I guess I was not motivated enough to retore it since I have even not
> started !
>
> However, I love Datsun Roadsters.
>
> So, I was secretely looking for a 2000 indeed.
>
> And I just found one.
>
> This car is in France since 1991, and has never been driven there.
>
> It comes fitted with at least the Solex carbs and velocity stacks. How can
> I make sure whether itt was factory fitted ?
>
> And I've began to list all the parts I do need.
>
> I was wondering if it was reasonnable to upgrade the engine if it's got the
> complete "solex" kit, and who could you advise me for finding performance
> original (if possible) parts.
>
> I would also want to find tyres with "little" white walls.
>
> Chassis number is 02721, and
>
> engine number : 03239
>
> Pls see the pics attached.
>
> I would like to know :
>
> - its original color combo, (it seems to have been silver over black)
>
> - if I can get any further history in the USA.
>
> Thx in advance.
>
> Best regards from the French Riviera.
>
> Pascal.
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of
161120117461.jpg]
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of
161120117462.jpg]
>
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From tom at datsun2000.com  Tue May 21 09:19:45 2013
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 08:19:45 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] My new 68' 2000 with Solex.
Message-ID: <519B9091.3090309@datsun2000.com>

Congratulations Pascal.  I have owned 3 2000's now and enjoyed each one.

As to which carburetors came on your car, take a look at the aluminum 
information plate you will find on top of the firewall when you open the 
hood.  That plate will tell you what horsepower rating the car had when 
it left the factory.  135 HP would indicate SU carburetors.  150 HP 
tells you your car came with Mikuni's.  It also tells you your car came 
with a "B" camshaft, which is different from the cam supplied with SU 
carburetors.

Coker Tire can supply you with just about any type of tire you want.  
They specialize in supplying tires to the owners of classic and restored 
vehicles.  Over the years they have purchased the molds from tire 
manufacturers as tire models are removed from the market. A Coker tire 
may look like the bias ply tire that came on your car, but may be a 
modern radial inside.  Their web site is: http://www.cokertire.com/

If you visit www.311s.org you will find a lot of information on their 
Wiki pages, and there is a registration page where you can register your 
cars by VIN number.  If your cars have been registered there before you 
may be able to find a previous owner.

Welcome to the club, and enjoy the ride.  These cars are a lot of fun.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Las Vegas
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

On 5/20/2013 1:51:05 PM, ArnoDiffusion at aol.com wrote:
 > Hello from France !
 >
 > I first posted there last September when I bought a 68' 1600.
 >
 > But I guess I was not motivated enough to retore it since I have even 
not
 > started !
 >
 > However, I love Datsun Roadsters.
 >
 > So, I was secretely looking for a 2000 indeed.
 >
 > And I just found one.
 >
 > This car is in France since 1991, and has never been driven there.
 >
 > It comes fitted with at least the Solex carbs and velocity stacks. 
How can
 > I make sure whether itt was factory fitted ?
 >
 > And I've began to list all the parts I do need.
 >
 > I was wondering if it was reasonnable to upgrade the engine if it's 
got the
 > complete "solex" kit, and who could you advise me for finding 
performance
 > original (if possible) parts.
 >
 > I would also want to find tyres with "little" white walls.
 >
 > Chassis number is 02721, and
 >
 > engine number : 03239
 >
 > Pls see the pics attached.
 >
 > I would like to know :
 >
 > - its original color combo, (it seems to have been silver over black)
 >
 > - if I can get any further history in the USA.
 >
 > Thx in advance.
 >
 > Best regards from the French Riviera.
 >
 > Pascal.
 >
 > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a 
name of 161120117461.jpg]
 >
 > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a 
name of 161120117462.jpg]
 >
 > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a 
name of 210220128391.jpg]
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 >
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 >
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Tue May 21 23:03:21 2013
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 22:03:21 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 1500 Roadster Diff
Message-ID: <BLU168-W3452B35A3E9CD7352811F6DFA90@phx.gbl>

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/pts/3820712599.html

Peter Harrison
818 448 3181

From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Wed May 22 09:24:09 2013
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 11:24:09 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Late model 510 for sale
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEtpU932+xKUFf3Joqd52AADEEy8waM0MsjbGhuMNRZcgA@mail.gmail.com>

http://cleveland.craigslist.org/cto/3804779942.html

  I know it isn't the right model 510, but it sure would make a nice daily
driver!

Paul
Ohio

From tputland at charter.net  Wed May 22 10:09:19 2013
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 12:09:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Late model 510 for sale
Message-ID: <4933ca85.80659a.13ecd007768.Webtop.46@charter.net>

Personally, all 510s are right. All Datsuns for that matter. :-)

tim


On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Paul Kort wrote:

> http://cleveland.craigslist.org/cto/3804779942.html
>
>   I know it isn't the right model 510, but it sure would make a nice 
> daily
> driver!
>
> Paul
> Ohio
> ________________________________________
>
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net

From mauertr at grics.net  Fri May 24 03:45:46 2013
From: mauertr at grics.net (terry mauer)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 04:45:46 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 66 spl311
Message-ID: <34606C81C9584641BA6E2BF01204B1EF@userPC>

any one interested in a1966 spl 311 right hand drive------- tr mauer
mauertr at grics.net

From twokeelya at gmail.com  Fri May 24 08:28:43 2013
From: twokeelya at gmail.com (twokeelya at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 07:28:43 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] out of hibernation problems
Message-ID: <CALOjD_90X+XenVrWaE=+v6DjcpG7FZ=0Fw+45iT7LtbPqXhcZQ@mail.gmail.com>

 I have no power to headlghts, fuel gage not working, and running terrible.
it starves for
power after 30 seconds of driving, and will come to a stop. I think it's a
fuel issue, the electronic pump will fill the carbs when key is on and not
running, but
it's not making the same pumping sound, more like a squishing muffled
noise. Well, made it home with flashers only, really glad. I'm not sure but
don't really know where to start poking around other then the obvious
places. Getting gas that tastes like gas not varnish,(added fresh gas)
getting spark (EI DIZZY). Worthy of noting, all other electric systems
 functioning perfectly.
Any suggestions?

From RWM at RWMann.com  Fri May 24 08:40:01 2013
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 10:40:01 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] out of hibernation problems
In-Reply-To: <CALOjD_90X+XenVrWaE=+v6DjcpG7FZ=0Fw+45iT7LtbPqXhcZQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALOjD_90X+XenVrWaE=+v6DjcpG7FZ=0Fw+45iT7LtbPqXhcZQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <519F7BC1.30506@RWMann.com>

Clogged fuel filters (in-line and in banjos), debris clogging tank pickup?

On 5/24/2013 10:28 AM, twokeelya at gmail.com wrote:
>   I have no power to headlghts, fuel gage not working, and running terrible.
> it starves for
> power after 30 seconds of driving, and will come to a stop. I think it's a
> fuel issue, the electronic pump will fill the carbs when key is on and not
> running, but
> it's not making the same pumping sound, more like a squishing muffled
> noise. Well, made it home with flashers only, really glad. I'm not sure but
> don't really know where to start poking around other then the obvious
> places. Getting gas that tastes like gas not varnish,(added fresh gas)
> getting spark (EI DIZZY). Worthy of noting, all other electric systems
>   functioning perfectly.
> Any suggestions?

From twokeelya at gmail.com  Fri May 24 08:57:34 2013
From: twokeelya at gmail.com (twokeelya at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 07:57:34 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] out of hibernation problems
In-Reply-To: <519F7BC1.30506@RWMann.com>
References: <CALOjD_90X+XenVrWaE=+v6DjcpG7FZ=0Fw+45iT7LtbPqXhcZQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<519F7BC1.30506@RWMann.com>
Message-ID: <CALOjD__s+6vVq7Ye03v7rzpnM8A+xnmw_eY6Lgzo--iKPp-A1w@mail.gmail.com>

It will push gas through,not sure there is enough though. I popped out the
in line filter, blew into it and air flowed without obstruction, but was
empty. Do I have to remove the tank to access the pick up, and any thoughts
on
the headlights and fuel gauge?


On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 7:40 AM, RWM <RWM at rwmann.com> wrote:

> Clogged fuel filters (in-line and in banjos), debris clogging tank pickup?
>
>
> On 5/24/2013 10:28 AM, twokeelya at gmail.com wrote:
>
>>   I have no power to headlghts, fuel gage not working, and running
>> terrible.
>> it starves for
>> power after 30 seconds of driving, and will come to a stop. I think it's a
>> fuel issue, the electronic pump will fill the carbs when key is on and not
>> running, but
>> it's not making the same pumping sound, more like a squishing muffled
>> noise. Well, made it home with flashers only, really glad. I'm not sure
>> but
>> don't really know where to start poking around other then the obvious
>> places. Getting gas that tastes like gas not varnish,(added fresh gas)
>> getting spark (EI DIZZY). Worthy of noting, all other electric systems
>>   functioning perfectly.
>> Any suggestions?

From RWM at RWMann.com  Fri May 24 09:57:30 2013
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 11:57:30 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] out of hibernation problems
In-Reply-To: <CALOjD__s+6vVq7Ye03v7rzpnM8A+xnmw_eY6Lgzo--iKPp-A1w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALOjD_90X+XenVrWaE=+v6DjcpG7FZ=0Fw+45iT7LtbPqXhcZQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<519F7BC1.30506@RWMann.com>
	<CALOjD__s+6vVq7Ye03v7rzpnM8A+xnmw_eY6Lgzo--iKPp-A1w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <519F8DEA.5040200@RWMann.com>

Lights:  How's the battery condition?  Is headlight relay clicking when 
switched "on"? Do parking lights work? Corrosion on switch, relay or 
headlight connections?

Fuel Sender:  Have you checked the fuel sender ground and signal leads 
(under access plate on top of tank) and had the sender out of the tank 
to examine its condition?


On 5/24/2013 10:57 AM, twokeelya at gmail.com wrote:
> It will push gas through,not sure there is enough though. I popped out 
> the in line filter, blew into it and air flowed without obstruction, 
> but was empty. Do I have to remove the tank to access the pick up, and 
> any thoughts on
> the headlights and fuel gauge?
>
>
> On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 7:40 AM, RWM <RWM at rwmann.com 
> <mailto:RWM at rwmann.com>> wrote:
>
>     Clogged fuel filters (in-line and in banjos), debris clogging tank
>     pickup?
>
>
>     On 5/24/2013 10:28 AM, twokeelya at gmail.com
>     <mailto:twokeelya at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>           I have no power to headlghts, fuel gage not working, and
>         running terrible.
>         it starves for
>         power after 30 seconds of driving, and will come to a stop. I
>         think it's a
>         fuel issue, the electronic pump will fill the carbs when key
>         is on and not
>         running, but
>         it's not making the same pumping sound, more like a squishing
>         muffled
>         noise. Well, made it home with flashers only, really glad. I'm
>         not sure but
>         don't really know where to start poking around other then the
>         obvious
>         places. Getting gas that tastes like gas not varnish,(added
>         fresh gas)
>         getting spark (EI DIZZY). Worthy of noting, all other electric
>         systems
>           functioning perfectly.
>         Any suggestions?

From pat at hornesystemstx.com  Fri May 24 10:16:05 2013
From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 11:16:05 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] out of hibernation problems
In-Reply-To: <CALOjD__s+6vVq7Ye03v7rzpnM8A+xnmw_eY6Lgzo--iKPp-A1w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALOjD_90X+XenVrWaE=+v6DjcpG7FZ=0Fw+45iT7LtbPqXhcZQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<519F7BC1.30506@RWMann.com>
	<CALOjD__s+6vVq7Ye03v7rzpnM8A+xnmw_eY6Lgzo--iKPp-A1w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <519F9245.2000905@hornesystemstx.com>

A filter that will not pass fuel can pass air, so blowing through it is 
not a good test. Pour fuel into it and see if it flows out the bottom.

There is a plate in the bottom of the trunk that accesses the fuel tank 
sender/pick up. Pop it off, remove the sender, and see what is in the 
tank. The fuel pick up is not part of the sender, but I think you can 
see it from the opening.

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake twokeelya

> It will push gas through,not sure there is enough though. I popped out the
> in line filter, blew into it and air flowed without obstruction, but was
> empty. Do I have to remove the tank to access the pick up, and any thoughts
> on
> the headlights and fuel gauge?
>
>
> On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 7:40 AM, RWM <RWM at rwmann.com> wrote:
>
>> Clogged fuel filters (in-line and in banjos), debris clogging tank pickup?
>>
>>
>> On 5/24/2013 10:28 AM, twokeelya at gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>    I have no power to headlghts, fuel gage not working, and running
>>> terrible.
>>> it starves for
>>> power after 30 seconds of driving, and will come to a stop. I think it's a
>>> fuel issue, the electronic pump will fill the carbs when key is on and not
>>> running, but
>>> it's not making the same pumping sound, more like a squishing muffled
>>> noise. Well, made it home with flashers only, really glad. I'm not sure
>>> but
>>> don't really know where to start poking around other then the obvious
>>> places. Getting gas that tastes like gas not varnish,(added fresh gas)
>>> getting spark (EI DIZZY). Worthy of noting, all other electric systems
>>>    functioning perfectly.
>>> Any suggestions?
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>
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From hrhaslett at yahoo.com  Fri May 24 14:06:12 2013
From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 13:06:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: New story at Bring a Trailer
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$5,000 seems like a good buy.


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$5k
1967.5 Datsun Low-Windshield Roadster
This 1967.5 Datsun 1600 Roadster come
from the one of the most desirable years for the model, and the last with the
more attractive low windshield. The American Racing Libre wheels are a great
score, and the car sounds like it is a driver quality car with an odd fuel
leak. Find it here on Craigslist in San Jose, California for $5000. 
Continue
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From think.mapp at gmail.com  Fri May 24 18:13:01 2013
From: think.mapp at gmail.com (Louis S. Daly)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 20:13:01 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 280Z wheels on a roadster
Message-ID: <CABsU3wQDFx=YvAcG9kLV2TxPWCoUkRe2MoAQPV_7jK87OeBn1g@mail.gmail.com>

I was wondering if Mike Harper SC is still on this list - and i could ask
him if he still has a set of the steel inserts he make years ago to put the
ca. 1980 Z wheels on the roadster.

thanks
Lou

From mauertr at grics.net  Fri May 24 18:26:28 2013
From: mauertr at grics.net (terry mauer)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 19:26:28 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] spl 311
Message-ID: <0A2192A52E9F4817A5F3717CF034C553@userPC>

66 right hand drive spl311 is in knoxville il------- tr
mauer-----mauertr at grics.net

From tputland at charter.net  Fri May 24 21:45:10 2013
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 23:45:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] spl 311
Message-ID: <733691bf.81f329.13ed9ca4143.Webtop.46@charter.net>

is this spam?


On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 7:26 PM, terry mauer wrote:

> 66 right hand drive spl311 is in knoxville il------- tr
> mauer-----mauertr at grics.net
> ________________________________________

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sat May 25 00:05:16 2013
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 06:05:16 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] spl 311
Message-ID: <1556215044-1369461922-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1682561761-@b15.c20.bise6.blackberry>

Granted, there's almost zero info to engage a potential buyer, but why do you think it's spam?

Pete
------Original Message------
From: Tim Putland
Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spl 311
Sent: May 24, 2013 8:45 PM

is this spam?


On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 7:26 PM, terry mauer wrote:

> 66 right hand drive spl311 is in knoxville il------- tr
> mauer-----mauertr at grics.net
> ________________________________________
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From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com  Sat May 25 04:52:29 2013
From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 03:52:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] 280Z wheels on a roadster
In-Reply-To: <CABsU3wQDFx=YvAcG9kLV2TxPWCoUkRe2MoAQPV_7jK87OeBn1g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1369479149.29957.YahooMailClassic@web124904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I'll look and see if I have 16 of these in a box somewhere - I think I do. 
I'll let you know.


Mike Harper, CAI, AARE
Harper Auction & Realty
843-729-4996
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--- On Fri, 5/24/13, Louis S. Daly <think.mapp at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Louis S. Daly <think.mapp at gmail.com>
Subject: [Roadsters] 280Z wheels on a roadster
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Date: Friday, May 24, 2013, 8:13 PM


I was wondering if Mike Harper SC is still on this list - and i could ask
him if he still has a set of the steel inserts he make years ago to put the
ca. 1980 Z wheels on the roadster.

thanks
Lou
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From tputland at charter.net  Sat May 25 06:58:18 2013
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 08:58:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] spl 311
Message-ID: <14d86964.81ff22.13edbc4a9c8.Webtop.46@charter.net>

I didn't get/see the original post that Linda said he was replying to: 
"No he was responding to a request for the location of the car for sale"

I also didn't recognize the name on the email.

sorry
tim



On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 1:05 AM, ppeters914 at comcast.net wrote:

> Granted, there's almost zero info to engage a potential buyer, but why 
> do you think it's spam?
>
> Pete
> ------Original Message------
> From: Tim Putland
> Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> To: Datsun Roadster List
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spl 311
> Sent: May 24, 2013 8:45 PM
>
> is this spam?
>
>
> On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 7:26 PM, terry mauer wrote:
>
>> 66 right hand drive spl311 is in knoxville il------- tr
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From johnnyroadster at comcast.net  Sat May 25 10:34:38 2013
From: johnnyroadster at comcast.net (JohnnyRoadster)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 12:34:38 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Dash trim for sale
Message-ID: <53E39D3846554AAFB6CEA71AC01953EB@JohnAcerLaptop>

Selling locally, but can ship from.

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/pts/3828368773.html

From edsandie at telus.net  Mon May 27 10:28:48 2013
From: edsandie at telus.net (Ed and Sandie)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 09:28:48 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] question.....
Message-ID: <1E2506599330499D901DD5869C9B86B8@sandiePC>

our little roadster we are restoring seems to be missing some mechanisms from
the frame of the soft top, like a lever or something to make it stretch out
and spring up, there are two empty holes on the joints, (sorry cant think of
any other decription...) but donbt know exactly to call it, it will need a
new brow and soft top and cables but also missing some other hardware.  Anyone
have any photos?



Sandie

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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Mon May 27 10:50:34 2013
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 09:50:34 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] question.....
In-Reply-To: <1E2506599330499D901DD5869C9B86B8@sandiePC>
References: <1E2506599330499D901DD5869C9B86B8@sandiePC>
Message-ID: <BLU168-W12312834E65B0ACE6685F35DF960@phx.gbl>

What year roadster.
typically - at least on 68-70 - there is no lever - just the way the scissor
action of the sides stretchesa gainst the topit self.
As to what you are 'missing' perhaps YOU could post pix of where you think
things should be,


Peter Harrison
818 448 3181


> From: edsandie at telus.net
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 09:28:48 -0700
> Subject: [Roadsters] question.....
>
> our little roadster we are restoring seems to be missing some mechanisms
from
> the frame of the soft top, like a lever or something to make it stretch out
> and spring up, there are two empty holes on the joints, (sorry cant think
of
> any other decription...) but donbt know exactly to call it, it will need a
> new brow and soft top and cables but also missing some other hardware.
Anyone
> have any photos?
>
>
>
> Sandie
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of
wlEmoticon-smile[1].png]
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From cour.jpeg at gmail.com  Mon May 27 11:02:35 2013
From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (Paul Courson)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 13:02:35 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] question.....
In-Reply-To: <1E2506599330499D901DD5869C9B86B8@sandiePC>
References: <1E2506599330499D901DD5869C9B86B8@sandiePC>
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Links to posted photos would be helpful, yes. (No attachments allowed on
the reflector)

There is a tensioning cable on both sides that often gets lost because it
doesn't do much anyway.  It's supposed to help the vinyl part of the top
stay sealed to the door window.

Not much else I can think of that's not an integral part of a very manual
top. Rear metal bar slides into the vinyl, and there are two cutouts that
match the fittings on the rear deck at the trunk.

When collapsing the scissors to put the top down, push gently from the
sides of the front bow over the windshield, never at the middle center
latch over the rear view mirror. Weak spot.

Same for extending to put the top up. Squeeze the scissors along their
length rather than pulling from the front bow, tugging at the sides if need
be to seat and align on the windshield to latch.
On May 27, 2013 12:30 PM, "Ed and Sandie" <edsandie at telus.net> wrote:

> our little roadster we are restoring seems to be missing some mechanisms
> from
> the frame of the soft top, like a lever or something to make it stretch out
> and spring up, there are two empty holes on the joints, (sorry cant think
> of
> any other decription...) but donb t know exactly to call it, it will need a
> new brow and soft top and cables but also missing some other hardware.
>  Anyone
> have any photos?
>
>
>
> Sandie
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of
> wlEmoticon-smile[1].png]
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From tputland at charter.net  Mon May 27 11:41:07 2013
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 13:41:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] 411 oil pan
Message-ID: <1e960383.8260dc.13ee71450db.Webtop.44@charter.net>

Is the aluminum oil pan from the 411 a larger (than the 311) capacity 
oil pan and will it work with the U20 oil pump?

Thanks
tim

From tputland at charter.net  Mon May 27 13:12:44 2013
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 15:12:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] 411 oil pan
Message-ID: <7334bb6c.6e2d17.13ee7682ea7.Webtop.48@charter.net>

  Thank you

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Greg Davis wrote:

  The aluminum pan from the R16 motor in a 411 model will physically 
bolt to the U20 block but will not fit into the 311 roadster engine 
compartment because of clearance issues.

> Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 13:41:07 -0400 From: tputland at charter.net To: 
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] 411 oil pan
> Is the aluminum oil pan from the 411 a larger (than the 311) capacity 
> oil pan and will it work with the U20 oil pump?
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From aultgc at att.net  Mon May 27 17:21:22 2013
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 18:21:22 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] question.....
References: <1E2506599330499D901DD5869C9B86B8@sandiePC>
Message-ID: <E697C67315BD4BBFA05AD6D682D28EDF@gaxp1>

Low-windshield ('65-'67-1/2) or high-windshield ('68-'70)?

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed and Sandie" <edsandie at telus.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 11:28 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] question.....


> our little roadster we are restoring seems to be missing some mechanisms 
> from
> the frame of the soft top, like a lever or something to make it stretch 
> out
> and spring up, there are two empty holes on the joints, (sorry cant think 
> of
> any other decription...) but donbt know exactly to call it, it will need 
> a
> new brow and soft top and cables but also missing some other hardware. 
> Anyone
> have any photos?
>
>
>
> Sandie
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of 
> wlEmoticon-smile[1].png]
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From tom at datsun2000.com  Mon May 27 18:29:27 2013
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 17:29:27 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] question.....
In-Reply-To: <3F1115116B624010B9C6FECFD9B87FE9@sandiePC>
References: <1E2506599330499D901DD5869C9B86B8@sandiePC>
	<51A38BC8.7060806@datsun2000.com>
	<3F1115116B624010B9C6FECFD9B87FE9@sandiePC>
Message-ID: <51A3FA67.50001@datsun2000.com>

Sandie, I think you are describing the mounting studs on each side of 
the body.  I have attached a photo for you to look at.  It won't post to 
the list, but it will be visible to you.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Las Vegas

On 5/27/2013 12:54 PM, Ed and Sandie wrote:
> It is a 1969 2000...... and seems to be missing two hinge pins on the 
> side so we were thinking maybe there was a hand lever there or 
> something so maybe not....maybe the pins just broke out..
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Tom Hendricksen
> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 9:37 AM
> To: Ed and Sandie
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] question.....
>
> Hi Sandie,
>
> Unfortunately you can't send pictures through the forum.  You can post
> them in the photo section of 311s.org if you like.
>
> What year is your roadster?  There will be differences between cars
> built from 1968 forward and cars built 1967 and earlier.
>
> Tom
> 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
> Las Vegas
> http://www.datsun2000.com
> http://www.nowroc.org
>
>
>
>
>
> On 5/27/2013 9:28 AM, Ed and Sandie wrote:
>> our little roadster we are restoring seems to be missing some 
>> mechanisms from
>> the frame of the soft top, like a lever or something to make it 
>> stretch out
>> and spring up, there are two empty holes on the joints, (sorry cant 
>> think of
>> any other decription...) but donbt know exactly to call it, it will 
>> need a
>> new brow and soft top and cables but also missing some other 
>> hardware. Anyone
>> have any photos?
>>
>>
>>
>> Sandie
>>
>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a 
>> name of wlEmoticon-smile[1].png]
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Tue May 28 12:24:27 2013
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 11:24:27 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Question about aftermarket seats
Message-ID: <006601ce5bd0$96f2e8f0$c4d8bad0$@net>

Hi, gang. I'm trying to find some aftermarket fixed-back seats for my car,
and I'm having trouble finding any that are narrow enough to fit,
particularly in the shoulder area. I bought a pair of Corbeau Forza seats
but it turns out that the shoulder "wings" are so wide they hang out over
the edge of the door. And this is one of the narrower seats that Corbeau
makes. I'm now looking at the Corbeau Clubman, which is narrower but gives
up a lot of shoulder-area support, but it might still be a tight fit.

 

One other complication is that my car has a roll bar with a cross-brace, so
the headrest can't extend back under the hoop.

 

What seats have any of you put in? My priority is one that has lots of
lateral support and is set up for a 5-point harness.

 

Gordon Glasgow

Renton, WA

www.gordon-glasgow.org

From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Tue May 28 12:46:11 2013
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 14:46:11 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Question about aftermarket seats
In-Reply-To: <006601ce5bd0$96f2e8f0$c4d8bad0$@net>
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Please keep the list posted.  I'd be interested in the answer!


On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>wrote:

> Hi, gang. I'm trying to find some aftermarket fixed-back seats for my car,
> and I'm having trouble finding any that are narrow enough to fit,
> particularly in the shoulder area. I bought a pair of Corbeau Forza seats
> but it turns out that the shoulder "wings" are so wide they hang out over
> the edge of the door. And this is one of the narrower seats that Corbeau
> makes. I'm now looking at the Corbeau Clubman, which is narrower but gives
> up a lot of shoulder-area support, but it might still be a tight fit.
>
>
>
> One other complication is that my car has a roll bar with a cross-brace, so
> the headrest can't extend back under the hoop.
>
>
>
> What seats have any of you put in? My priority is one that has lots of
> lateral support and is set up for a 5-point harness.
>
>
>
> Gordon Glasgow
>
> Renton, WA
>
> www.gordon-glasgow.org
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From lousailor at yahoo.com  Tue May 28 13:20:44 2013
From: lousailor at yahoo.com (Louie Partida)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 12:20:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Question about aftermarket seats
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Has anyone  looked at this website?
http://sportseatgroup.com/car-seat-collection
seats have that nice vintage
sport seat look.
 
Louie

From: Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
To:
Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net> 
Cc: Roadster List
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Question about aftermarket seats


Please keep the
list posted.  I'd be interested in the answer!


On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 2:24
PM, Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>wrote:

> Hi, gang. I'm trying to
find some aftermarket fixed-back seats for my car,
> and I'm having trouble
finding any that are narrow enough to fit,
> particularly in the shoulder
area. I bought a pair of Corbeau Forza seats
> but it turns out that the
shoulder "wings" are so wide they hang out over
> the edge of the door. And
this is one of the narrower seats that Corbeau
> makes. I'm now looking at the
Corbeau Clubman, which is narrower but gives
> up a lot of shoulder-area
support, but it might still be a tight fit.
>
>
>
> One other complication is
that my car has a roll bar with a cross-brace, so
> the headrest can't extend
back under the hoop.
>
>
>
> What seats have any of you put in? My priority is
one that has lots of
> lateral support and is set up for a 5-point harness.
>
>
>
> Gordon Glasgow
>
> Renton, WA
>
> www.gordon-glasgow.org
>
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From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Tue May 28 13:38:30 2013
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 14:38:30 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Question about aftermarket seats
In-Reply-To: <1369768844.33104.YahooMailNeo@web142406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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I looked at them, then reconsidered when I saw the prices. And they're
listed in euros!. Not sure what the exchange rate is, but I'm just sayin'
..., to borrow a phrase from Rev. Deitz. I have a set of Miata seats that I
was thinking about using in the roadster, but I think they might work
better in a 510. Plus there's no provision for a 5-point harness. I'd think
they might not live nice with your roll bar, either. Have you looked a
Cobra? They might offer something narrow enough and with slots for a
shoulder harness.

RD



On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Louie Partida <lousailor at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Has anyone  looked at this website?
> http://sportseatgroup.com/car-seat-collection
> seats have that nice vintage
> sport seat look.
>
> Louie
>
> From: Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
> To:
> Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
> Cc: Roadster List
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 2:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Question about aftermarket seats
>
>
> Please keep the
> list posted.  I'd be interested in the answer!
>
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 2:24
> PM, Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>wrote:
>
> > Hi, gang. I'm trying to
> find some aftermarket fixed-back seats for my car,
> > and I'm having trouble
> finding any that are narrow enough to fit,
> > particularly in the shoulder
> area. I bought a pair of Corbeau Forza seats
> > but it turns out that the
> shoulder "wings" are so wide they hang out over
> > the edge of the door. And
> this is one of the narrower seats that Corbeau
> > makes. I'm now looking at the
> Corbeau Clubman, which is narrower but gives
> > up a lot of shoulder-area
> support, but it might still be a tight fit.
> >
> >
> >
> > One other complication is
> that my car has a roll bar with a cross-brace, so
> > the headrest can't extend
> back under the hoop.
> >
> >
> >
> > What seats have any of you put in? My priority is
> one that has lots of
> > lateral support and is set up for a 5-point harness.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gordon Glasgow
> >
> > Renton, WA
> >
> > www.gordon-glasgow.org
> >
> ________________________________________
> >
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From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Tue May 28 13:55:34 2013
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 12:55:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Question about aftermarket seats
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References: <006601ce5bd0$96f2e8f0$c4d8bad0$@net>
Message-ID: <1369770934.14224.YahooMailRC@web184803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi Gordon, and everyone else out in Roadster land.

I have installed a racing seat from Ultrashield.  it's similar to the Kirkey 
seats, and has a ton of lateral support.  It's available in various widths. it 
is not however, very comfortable for the long haul.


S
675MIZU
To: Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, May 28, 2013 11:39:36 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Question about aftermarket seats

Hi, gang. I'm trying to find some aftermarket fixed-back seats for my car,
and I'm having trouble finding any that are narrow enough to fit,
particularly in the shoulder area. I bought a pair of Corbeau Forza seats
but it turns out that the shoulder "wings" are so wide they hang out over
the edge of the door. And this is one of the narrower seats that Corbeau
makes. I'm now looking at the Corbeau Clubman, which is narrower but gives
up a lot of shoulder-area support, but it might still be a tight fit.



One other complication is that my car has a roll bar with a cross-brace, so
the headrest can't extend back under the hoop.



What seats have any of you put in? My priority is one that has lots of
lateral support and is set up for a 5-point harness.



Gordon Glasgow

Renton, WA

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From sfdaugherty01 at msn.com  Tue May 28 14:04:50 2013
From: sfdaugherty01 at msn.com (SHANNON F DAUGHERTY)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 21:04:50 +0100
Subject: [Roadsters] Question about aftermarket seats
Message-ID: <BLU405-EAS118617FC5E920A7B6469D7BB4970@phx.gbl>

$1.38 to b,1. In other words $1380 will buy you 1000 euros.  I'm in Ireland right now so just did the conversion. I

Shannon

On May 28, 2013, at 8:38 PM, "Ronnie Day" <ronnie.day at gmail.com> wrote:

> I looked at them, then reconsidered when I saw the prices. And they're
> listed in euros!. Not sure what the exchange rate is, but I'm just sayin'
> ..., to borrow a phrase from Rev. Deitz. I have a set of Miata seats that I
> was thinking about using in the roadster, but I think they might work
> better in a 510. Plus there's no provision for a 5-point harness. I'd think
> they might not live nice with your roll bar, either. Have you looked a
> Cobra? They might offer something narrow enough and with slots for a
> shoulder harness.
> 
> RD
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Louie Partida <lousailor at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> Has anyone  looked at this website?
>> http://sportseatgroup.com/car-seat-collection
>> seats have that nice vintage
>> sport seat look.
>> 
>> Louie
>> 
>> From: Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
>> To:
>> Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
>> Cc: Roadster List
>> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 2:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Question about aftermarket seats
>> 
>> 
>> Please keep the
>> list posted.  I'd be interested in the answer!
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 2:24
>> PM, Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, gang. I'm trying to
>> find some aftermarket fixed-back seats for my car,
>>> and I'm having trouble
>> finding any that are narrow enough to fit,
>>> particularly in the shoulder
>> area. I bought a pair of Corbeau Forza seats
>>> but it turns out that the
>> shoulder "wings" are so wide they hang out over
>>> the edge of the door. And
>> this is one of the narrower seats that Corbeau
>>> makes. I'm now looking at the
>> Corbeau Clubman, which is narrower but gives
>>> up a lot of shoulder-area
>> support, but it might still be a tight fit.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> One other complication is
>> that my car has a roll bar with a cross-brace, so
>>> the headrest can't extend
>> back under the hoop.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What seats have any of you put in? My priority is
>> one that has lots of
>>> lateral support and is set up for a 5-point harness.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gordon Glasgow
>>> 
>>> Renton, WA
>>> 
>>> www.gordon-glasgow.org
>> ________________________________________
>>> 
>>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>>> 
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From taylorfarm at kddmgroup.com  Tue May 28 14:29:10 2013
From: taylorfarm at kddmgroup.com (taylorfarm at kddmgroup.com)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 13:29:10 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Question about aftermarket seats
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From geegc at aol.com  Tue May 28 14:53:17 2013
From: geegc at aol.com (Geegc AOL)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 22:53:17 +0200
Subject: [Roadsters] Question about aftermarket seats
In-Reply-To: <BLU405-EAS118617FC5E920A7B6469D7BB4970@phx.gbl>
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It's actually closer to $1.29

On May 28, 2013, at 10:04 PM, SHANNON F DAUGHERTY <sfdaugherty01 at msn.com>
wrote:

> $1.38 to b,1. In other words $1380 will buy you 1000 euros.  I'm in Ireland
right now so just did the conversion. I
>
> Shannon
>
> On May 28, 2013, at 8:38 PM, "Ronnie Day" <ronnie.day at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I looked at them, then reconsidered when I saw the prices. And they're
>> listed in euros!. Not sure what the exchange rate is, but I'm just sayin'
>> ..., to borrow a phrase from Rev. Deitz. I have a set of Miata seats that
I
>> was thinking about using in the roadster, but I think they might work
>> better in a 510. Plus there's no provision for a 5-point harness. I'd
think
>> they might not live nice with your roll bar, either. Have you looked a
>> Cobra? They might offer something narrow enough and with slots for a
>> shoulder harness.
>>
>> RD
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Louie Partida <lousailor at yahoo.com>
wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone  looked at this website?
>>> http://sportseatgroup.com/car-seat-collection
>>> seats have that nice vintage
>>> sport seat look.
>>>
>>> Louie
>>>
>>> From: Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
>>> To:
>>> Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
>>> Cc: Roadster List
>>> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 2:46 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Question about aftermarket seats
>>>
>>>
>>> Please keep the
>>> list posted.  I'd be interested in the answer!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 2:24
>>> PM, Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, gang. I'm trying to
>>> find some aftermarket fixed-back seats for my car,
>>>> and I'm having trouble
>>> finding any that are narrow enough to fit,
>>>> particularly in the shoulder
>>> area. I bought a pair of Corbeau Forza seats
>>>> but it turns out that the
>>> shoulder "wings" are so wide they hang out over
>>>> the edge of the door. And
>>> this is one of the narrower seats that Corbeau
>>>> makes. I'm now looking at the
>>> Corbeau Clubman, which is narrower but gives
>>>> up a lot of shoulder-area
>>> support, but it might still be a tight fit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> One other complication is
>>> that my car has a roll bar with a cross-brace, so
>>>> the headrest can't extend
>>> back under the hoop.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What seats have any of you put in? My priority is
>>> one that has lots of
>>>> lateral support and is set up for a 5-point harness.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gordon Glasgow
>>>>
>>>> Renton, WA
>>>>
>>>> www.gordon-glasgow.org
>>> ________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>>>>
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>>> http://www.team.net/archive
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From sfdaugherty01 at msn.com  Tue May 28 14:55:46 2013
From: sfdaugherty01 at msn.com (SHANNON F DAUGHERTY)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 21:55:46 +0100
Subject: [Roadsters] Question about aftermarket seats
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It changes everyday. My number was from two weeks ago 



On May 28, 2013, at 9:53 PM, "Geegc AOL" <geegc at aol.com> wrote:

> It's actually closer to $1.29
> 
> On May 28, 2013, at 10:04 PM, SHANNON F DAUGHERTY <sfdaugherty01 at msn.com> wrote:
> 
>> $1.38 to b,1. In other words $1380 will buy you 1000 euros.  I'm in Ireland right now so just did the conversion. I
>> 
>> Shannon
>> 
>> On May 28, 2013, at 8:38 PM, "Ronnie Day" <ronnie.day at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I looked at them, then reconsidered when I saw the prices. And they're
>>> listed in euros!. Not sure what the exchange rate is, but I'm just sayin'
>>> ..., to borrow a phrase from Rev. Deitz. I have a set of Miata seats that I
>>> was thinking about using in the roadster, but I think they might work
>>> better in a 510. Plus there's no provision for a 5-point harness. I'd think
>>> they might not live nice with your roll bar, either. Have you looked a
>>> Cobra? They might offer something narrow enough and with slots for a
>>> shoulder harness.
>>> 
>>> RD
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Louie Partida <lousailor at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Has anyone  looked at this website?
>>>> http://sportseatgroup.com/car-seat-collection
>>>> seats have that nice vintage
>>>> sport seat look.
>>>> 
>>>> Louie
>>>> 
>>>> From: Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
>>>> To:
>>>> Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
>>>> Cc: Roadster List
>>>> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 2:46 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Question about aftermarket seats
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Please keep the
>>>> list posted.  I'd be interested in the answer!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 2:24
>>>> PM, Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi, gang. I'm trying to
>>>> find some aftermarket fixed-back seats for my car,
>>>>> and I'm having trouble
>>>> finding any that are narrow enough to fit,
>>>>> particularly in the shoulder
>>>> area. I bought a pair of Corbeau Forza seats
>>>>> but it turns out that the
>>>> shoulder "wings" are so wide they hang out over
>>>>> the edge of the door. And
>>>> this is one of the narrower seats that Corbeau
>>>>> makes. I'm now looking at the
>>>> Corbeau Clubman, which is narrower but gives
>>>>> up a lot of shoulder-area
>>>> support, but it might still be a tight fit.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> One other complication is
>>>> that my car has a roll bar with a cross-brace, so
>>>>> the headrest can't extend
>>>> back under the hoop.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> What seats have any of you put in? My priority is
>>>> one that has lots of
>>>>> lateral support and is set up for a 5-point harness.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gordon Glasgow
>>>>> 
>>>>> Renton, WA
>>>>> 
>>>>> www.gordon-glasgow.org
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> 
>>>>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>>>>> 
>>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From mark at bradakis.com  Tue May 28 16:43:08 2013
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 16:43:08 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: confirm
 a7e7f43fab87d874f3337d2666e9647f66c6b8a2
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Paul Kort wrote:
> What the heck?  I'm not leaving the list!
>

Don't worry about it.  Lazy folks who don't edit their replies leave the 
link to other's
admin page in emails, and random twits around the world like to be annoying.

mjb.

From taylorfarm at kddmgroup.com  Tue May 28 16:49:13 2013
From: taylorfarm at kddmgroup.com (Doug and Laura)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 18:49:13 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Question about aftermarket seats
In-Reply-To: <006601ce5bd0$96f2e8f0$c4d8bad0$@net>
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Gordon, 

On my '69 stroker I purchased a set of Momo EStart seats from Crowder's in
SC ( http://www.crowderscustomizing.com ). I don't think Momo makes these
any more, but places still stock them.  5 years ago the seats were $262.50
ea plus the adjustable bases at $59.95 ea.  Looks like these seats are up to
$337.50 ea from this vendor.  

I decided on these base on a rec from a friend who tracks a 1st gen Miata
and these fit in one of those, so... it fits in the 1600, barely. The
shoulder wing is right up against the door.  Search for a post on 311s under
"Doug and Laura" called "It's back..." there are some photos.  

Doug
_____________________________________
Douglas Noble
Vienna, Virginia
'95.5 urS6 Avant (aka "Daddy's Big Red Car")
'69 SPL311u-25006 (aka "Daddy's Little Red Car")
'81 911SC #376 (aka "Mommy's Copper Penny")
'11 Tacoma DC LB (future tow vehicle)

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Glasgow
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 2:24 PM
To: Roadster List
Subject: [Roadsters] Question about aftermarket seats

Hi, gang. I'm trying to find some aftermarket fixed-back seats for my car,
and I'm having trouble finding any that are narrow enough to fit,
particularly in the shoulder area. I bought a pair of Corbeau Forza seats
but it turns out that the shoulder "wings" are so wide they hang out over
the edge of the door. And this is one of the narrower seats that Corbeau
makes. I'm now looking at the Corbeau Clubman, which is narrower but gives
up a lot of shoulder-area support, but it might still be a tight fit.

 

One other complication is that my car has a roll bar with a cross-brace, so
the headrest can't extend back under the hoop.

 

What seats have any of you put in? My priority is one that has lots of
lateral support and is set up for a 5-point harness.

 

Gordon Glasgow

Renton, WA

www.gordon-glasgow.org
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From rayalma at aol.com  Tue May 28 16:49:59 2013
From: rayalma at aol.com (rayalma at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 18:49:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for a set of Upper & Lower Ball Joints
Message-ID: <8D02A0CD08E500E-1B68-2E267@webmail-d155.sysops.aol.com>

Hi Roadster Family,
I need a set of upper & lower ball joints to restore my 69 roadster's
suspension.
Can anyone give me any lead on where to find them!!
I really appreciate any input.
Thanks,
Ray

From mark at bradakis.com  Tue May 28 16:58:14 2013
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 16:58:14 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: confirm
 a7e7f43fab87d874f3337d2666e9647f66c6b8a2
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	<51A532FC.8030200@bradakis.com>
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And on another note, I can't remember if I sent a note to this list, but 
I spent some
time over the holiday weekend getting out Thank You emails to folks who had
contributed to the Team.Net spring fund drive.  Still have a quite a few 
to go,
hopefully get caught up in the next few days.

mjb.

From sewebberlaw at gmail.com  Tue May 28 17:01:18 2013
From: sewebberlaw at gmail.com (Stephen Webber)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 16:01:18 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] question.....
In-Reply-To: <51A3FA67.50001@datsun2000.com>
References: <1E2506599330499D901DD5869C9B86B8@sandiePC>
	<51A38BC8.7060806@datsun2000.com>
	<3F1115116B624010B9C6FECFD9B87FE9@sandiePC>
	<51A3FA67.50001@datsun2000.com>
Message-ID: <CAM_ShUNj8cb0OJ+ZDmJP8b6-Qwq1DuxYaPo8FPsd4RH1+EWVxA@mail.gmail.com>

I also have a question about my '63 roadster's soft top.

The vehicle has been in my family since my sister bought it new in August,
1963.  It used to have 2 bars that extended from the front of the top bow
forward over the windows to attachment points on the wood bow that sealed
the top against the top of the windshield.  Each bar had a horizontal slot
at the rear to connect with the roof bow, and an angling down slot at the
front that attached to the wood bow.   Somehow these got lost, even though
i still have the canvas covers they slipped through.  I have never seen
these bars available from any source.  Anyone know where these could be
obtained?

STEPHEN E. WEBBER


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Tom Hendricksen <tom at datsun2000.com> wrote:

> Sandie, I think you are describing the mounting studs on each side of
> the body.  I have attached a photo for you to look at.  It won't post to
> the list, but it will be visible to you.
>
> Tom
> 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
> Las Vegas
>
> On 5/27/2013 12:54 PM, Ed and Sandie wrote:
> > It is a 1969 2000...... and seems to be missing two hinge pins on the
> > side so we were thinking maybe there was a hand lever there or
> > something so maybe not....maybe the pins just broke out..
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Tom Hendricksen
> > Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 9:37 AM
> > To: Ed and Sandie
> > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] question.....
> >
> > Hi Sandie,
> >
> > Unfortunately you can't send pictures through the forum.  You can post
> > them in the photo section of 311s.org if you like.
> >
> > What year is your roadster?  There will be differences between cars
> > built from 1968 forward and cars built 1967 and earlier.
> >
> > Tom
> > 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
> > Las Vegas
> > http://www.datsun2000.com
> > http://www.nowroc.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/27/2013 9:28 AM, Ed and Sandie wrote:
> >> our little roadster we are restoring seems to be missing some
> >> mechanisms from
> >> the frame of the soft top, like a lever or something to make it
> >> stretch out
> >> and spring up, there are two empty holes on the joints, (sorry cant
> >> think of
> >> any other decription...) but donb t know exactly to call it, it will
> >> need a
> >> new brow and soft top and cables but also missing some other
> >> hardware. Anyone
> >> have any photos?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sandie
> >>
> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a
> >> name of wlEmoticon-smile[1].png]
> >> ________________________________________
> >>
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue May 28 17:11:02 2013
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 23:11:02 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for a set of Upper & Lower Ball Joints
In-Reply-To: <8D02A0CD08E500E-1B68-2E267@webmail-d155.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8D02A0CD08E500E-1B68-2E267@webmail-d155.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <822491580-1369782663-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-191229820-@b15.c20.bise6.blackberry>

Rareparts.com or the vendors. 

Pete
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: rayalma at aol.com
Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Tue, 28 May 2013 18:49:59 
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for a set of Upper & Lower Ball Joints

Hi Roadster Family,
I need a set of upper & lower ball joints to restore my 69 roadster's
suspension.
Can anyone give me any lead on where to find them!!
I really appreciate any input.
Thanks,
Ray
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From dscrib2 at hotmail.com  Tue May 28 17:14:07 2013
From: dscrib2 at hotmail.com (Dana Scribner)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 19:14:07 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] it keeps running solution
Message-ID: <SNT141-W51A78E701A0971C948773EF0970@phx.gbl>

A little while ago I had the problem described below and
asked for help. Thank
you all who answered me. Once I read the emails and did a
little testing this
is the solution I came up with. Since I have the 60 amp GM
alternator with a
30 fuse between it & the battery. This is what I did: I
spliced into the line
after the fuse & before the battery and put in a 70
amp relay. One of those
little square jobs. You could use a 40 amp but I got
the 70 amp at our
favorite price. I used a double pole rely and taped off the
center pole. These
terminals on a 70 amp relay are 3/8 wide. To make the relay
turn Off & On I
had to splice into the accessory wire coming off the
ignition switch and
connect it to 1 terminal and ground the other. These are <
wide terminals. I
used the accessory to activate the relay because the Run
terminal would just
give me the same problem that I was trying to solve. This
is an easy solution
and works for me. Thanks everyone.
Dana S
1969 2000 this shuts off now.

My roadster wont stop running. When I turn the key to the garage
it keeps running and when I go to the lock position the starter turns and it
keeps running. I have upgraded to an electronic distributor, I love it and
dont
have a problem with it. At that time I put in a MSD 8202 distributor with an
internal resistor and new wires. Everything is wired according to the
instructions. Here is what happens. I can start the car and it runs without
a problem but when I stop and go to shut the car off it doesnt. It keeps
running. The only way to stop it is to disconnect the ignition wire to the
coil or the ground terminal on the battery. I have checked the ignition
switch
which was fine. The ignition wire to the coil is good. When I disconnected
the
connector on the ignition switch and it keeps running. I replaced the coil
with an old Flamethrower I had and it made no difference. Like the bunny it
kept on running. I did notice that if the rpms stayed below a point it would
shut off. It did this at 1,000; 1500; 2000 rpms but when I got to 2500 and
the GM alternation kicked in I couldnt shut it off. So this is where I am.
Does anyone know what is happening; why its happening and most important
what
is the solution?

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Tue May 28 17:20:27 2013
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 16:20:27 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for a set of Upper & Lower Ball Joints
In-Reply-To: <8D02A0CD08E500E-1B68-2E267@webmail-d155.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8D02A0CD08E500E-1B68-2E267@webmail-d155.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <0A47106C-162D-4496-9778-E0E74A34D443@netscape.net>

Rareparts.com direct, vendors or with a part no, auto parts stores should be
anle to get it for you.
Number is RP ..........

Linda

Sent from my iPod

On May 28, 2013, at 3:49 PM, rayalma at aol.com wrote:

> Hi Roadster Family,
> I need a set of upper & lower ball joints to restore my 69 roadster's
> suspension.
> Can anyone give me any lead on where to find them!!
> I really appreciate any input.
> Thanks,
> Ray
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>
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Tue May 28 21:24:10 2013
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 20:24:10 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Question about aftermarket seats
In-Reply-To: <1369768844.33104.YahooMailNeo@web142406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <006601ce5bd0$96f2e8f0$c4d8bad0$@net>
	<CAFEMhEvZ7AyN=U7GKcbLd_1ZF4Vy6wTLB29rx6LAVak-xmmPLw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1369768844.33104.YahooMailNeo@web142406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <006e01ce5c1b$fcb18d90$f614a8b0$@net>

Yeah, those look nice, and the R model would fit (the ST looks really nice
but would be a press-fit, I'm afraid). But at 850 Euros the price is a
deal-breaker (the Corbeau Clubman is $239). Priced for Porsche owners, I
guess.

 

Gordon Glasgow

 

From: Louie Partida [mailto:lousailor at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 12:21 PM
To: Paul Kort; Gordon Glasgow
Cc: Roadster List
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Question about aftermarket seats

 

Has anyone  looked at this website?
http://sportseatgroup.com/car-seat-collection

seats have that nice vintage sport seat look.

 

Louie

 

From: Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
To: Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net> 
Cc: Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Question about aftermarket seats


Please keep the list posted.  I'd be interested in the answer!


On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Gordon Glasgow
<gsglasgow at comcast.net>wrote:

> Hi, gang. I'm trying to find some aftermarket fixed-back seats for my car,
> and I'm having trouble finding any that are narrow enough to fit,
> particularly in the shoulder area. I bought a pair of Corbeau Forza seats
> but it turns out that the shoulder "wings" are so wide they hang out over
> the edge of the door. And this is one of the narrower seats that Corbeau
> makes. I'm now looking at the Corbeau Clubman, which is narrower but gives
> up a lot of shoulder-area support, but it might still be a tight fit.
>
>
>
> One other complication is that my car has a roll bar with a cross-brace,
so
> the headrest can't extend back under the hoop.
>
>
>
> What seats have any of you put in? My priority is one that has lots of
> lateral support and is set up for a 5-point harness.
>
>
>
> Gordon Glasgow
>
> Renton, WA
>
> www.gordon-glasgow.org
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Tue May 28 21:27:44 2013
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 20:27:44 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Question about aftermarket seats
In-Reply-To: <1369770934.14224.YahooMailRC@web184803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <006601ce5bd0$96f2e8f0$c4d8bad0$@net>
	<1369770934.14224.YahooMailRC@web184803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <007301ce5c1c$7c0d9e30$7428da90$@net>

The Ultrashield is interesting. They can custom-fit it, so that might be the
best bet. Not sure any passenger would want to put up with one.

 

I'm definitely keeping this one in mind, since most of my driving is, shall
we say, "vigorous."

 

Gordon Glasgow

 

From: steven boortz [mailto:vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 12:56 PM
To: Gordon Glasgow; Roadster List
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Question about aftermarket seats

 

Hi Gordon, and everyone else out in Roadster land.

I have installed a racing seat from Ultrashield.  it's similar to the Kirkey
seats, and has a ton of lateral support.  It's available in various widths.
it is not however, very comfortable for the long haul.


S
675MIZU

  _____  

From: Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
To: Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, May 28, 2013 11:39:36 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Question about aftermarket seats

Hi, gang. I'm trying to find some aftermarket fixed-back seats for my car,
and I'm having trouble finding any that are narrow enough to fit,
particularly in the shoulder area. I bought a pair of Corbeau Forza seats
but it turns out that the shoulder "wings" are so wide they hang out over
the edge of the door. And this is one of the narrower seats that Corbeau
makes. I'm now looking at the Corbeau Clubman, which is narrower but gives
up a lot of shoulder-area support, but it might still be a tight fit.



One other complication is that my car has a roll bar with a cross-brace, so
the headrest can't extend back under the hoop.



What seats have any of you put in? My priority is one that has lots of
lateral support and is set up for a 5-point harness.



Gordon Glasgow

Renton, WA

www.gordon-glasgow.org
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From tputland at charter.net  Wed May 29 08:53:33 2013
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 10:53:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: [Shop-talk] TIME SENSITIVE --Free hardtop for a TR
 4 or other?
Message-ID: <1821508f.252dfc.13ef0c79a09.Webtop.49@charter.net>

 From the shop talk list......


-------- Begin forwarded message --------
Subject: [Shop-talk] TIME SENSITIVE --Free hardtop for a TR 4 or other?
Date: 5/29/13 9:22:36 AM
From: eric at megageek.com
To: shop-talk at Autox.Team.Net


This was just posted to my local Craigslist.

http://cnj.craigslist.org/zip/3808280608.html

If any of you know what it will fit, and need it, let me know and I can
pick it up for you.  I'll ship it to you as well, but I don't know how
much that will cost.

Let me know.

Eric P
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a 
rational
being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph
Waldo Emerson

From twokeelya at gmail.com  Wed May 29 16:59:21 2013
From: twokeelya at gmail.com (twokeelya at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 15:59:21 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] out of hibernation part II Transmission
Message-ID: <CALOjD_-0B00uYJirVgsWf9WkFnXm+bQpVzgCtFEbixB16e-=Qw@mail.gmail.com>

thanks for all the tips, yes, inline fuel filter clogged, I'm going to have
to drain the tank because it clogged up the new one too. The fuel gauge had
slightly oxidized  contacts, I sanded them lightly, tightened up the
connectors and works perfectly. Headlights same thing, I sanded the fuse
contacts and they work, I even have a horn. Now, it won't shift into fourth
gear, goes in, but pops out. I'm sure from all the play in the gearbox that
it needs rebuilding, I've been putting that off hoping it would fix itself
(yeah right). SO....now i need help with removing the engine and am looking
for tips from you masters.I've pulled several mustang and Chevy camero
motors, but never a Datsun.  Thanks in advance from your ever so humble
learner....
Richard
67 SRL529

From twokeelya at gmail.com  Wed May 29 17:26:46 2013
From: twokeelya at gmail.com (twokeelya at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 16:26:46 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Dumb question
Message-ID: <CALOjD___zWXQW7szYxrnzqkf=3kPvDyzLDS1mn9vQebGzs=YkA@mail.gmail.com>

trying to register on 311's.org, but cant figure out the anti-bot answer,
I've tried all forms of roadster, anyone know that answer?

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Wed May 29 18:30:01 2013
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 17:30:01 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] out of hibernation part II Transmission
In-Reply-To: <CALOjD_-0B00uYJirVgsWf9WkFnXm+bQpVzgCtFEbixB16e-=Qw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALOjD_-0B00uYJirVgsWf9WkFnXm+bQpVzgCtFEbixB16e-=Qw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU168-W96BBA8D4A393ECBEE29DCDF910@phx.gbl>

Re - Removing the engine
Get PLENTY of PLASTIC baggies - sandwich size and gallon size, plus index
cards or post-it notes and one or two medium size containers.
WHen you remove ANYTHING - put it in a baggie and mark it with contents and a
sequential number  and put it in the container ins that order. when you come
to reassemble, you will put things back in reverse order
NOTE_ it is not typically necessary to remove carbs, starter,manifold etc.
Disconnect battery and remove
Drain engine oil - other wise it will leak out of the back
Drain coolant.
Disconnect
reverse switch wires from transmission
drive shaft - handy to make a note (using a punch) to insure all is realigned
to original spots
speedo (small tab held by 10mm nut) - remove by twisting anticlockwise
all ground wires
starter motor
alternator
throttle cables including choke
fuel line (intake to the pump)
all hoses at engine side (note - good idea to replace the two SHORT hoses
between the intake manifold and block and at the rear where the heater stop
cock is. They are  impossible to replace without major fuss later on.

remove
fan - loosen shroud first (10 mm bolts)
shroud
radiator (you should be able to retain the upper radiator mount attached to
the radiator)
washer bottle (not vital - but gets  in the way)
alternator (gives better access to the engine mounts)
disconnect engine mounts - note that the front mount bolt is captive whereas
the rear is bolt/nut (good ides to chase them before reinstall  - saves a lot
of wrenching
6 bolts holding the transmission to the cross member
2 bolts holding the retaining mouint to the actual mount
2 bolts holding the mount to the transmission.

shift lever (easier if you remove the shift plate) the shift lever has a bevel
(13mm) at base of lever with a retaining nylock underneath)

Oil line (lower down on passenger side) - you have to unlock from the mount
(pull retaining clip) before unscrewing from the engine.

Disconnect tach cable
Disconnect the small line from the distributor
disconnect all ignition/coil wires

You will need an engine hoist - the engine comes standard with a loop attached
to rear engine bolt on drivers side and another at head front on passenger
side.

Ideally (for me at least) an engine leveler is usefull.General idea is to lift
engine up and then tilt upwards such that there is an approximate 45 angle
going forwards - make sure you don't hook into the throttle lever.

Just be gentle and watch for things catching on the frame.

Good luck


Depending upon when they were last replaced and current condition - replace
Clutch - suggest 2 litre clutch plate.
throwout bearing
front/rear transmission seals
pressure plate

check/rebuild clutch slave


Peter Harrison
818 448 3181


> Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 15:59:21 -0700
> From: twokeelya at gmail.com
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] out of hibernation part II Transmission
>
> thanks for all the tips, yes, inline fuel filter clogged, I'm going to have
> to drain the tank because it clogged up the new one too. The fuel gauge had
> slightly oxidized  contacts, I sanded them lightly, tightened up the
> connectors and works perfectly. Headlights same thing, I sanded the fuse
> contacts and they work, I even have a horn. Now, it won't shift into fourth
> gear, goes in, but pops out. I'm sure from all the play in the gearbox that
> it needs rebuilding, I've been putting that off hoping it would fix itself
> (yeah right). SO....now i need help with removing the engine and am looking
> for tips from you masters.I've pulled several mustang and Chevy camero
> motors, but never a Datsun.  Thanks in advance from your ever so humble
> learner....
> Richard
> 67 SRL529
> ________________________________________
>
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>
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From tputland at charter.net  Thu May 30 04:47:08 2013
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 06:47:08 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Dumb question
Message-ID: <7e09ff1d.829616.13ef50c5cfe.Webtop.47@charter.net>

Straight from the home page:

'....The answer to the registration anti-bot question is "Datsun 
Sports"......'




On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:26 PM, twokeelya at gmail.com wrote:

> trying to register on 311's.org, but cant figure out the anti-bot 
> answer,
> I've tried all forms of roadster, anyone know that answer?
> ________________________________________

From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Thu May 30 05:26:59 2013
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 07:26:59 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Dumb question
In-Reply-To: <7e09ff1d.829616.13ef50c5cfe.Webtop.47@charter.net>
References: <7e09ff1d.829616.13ef50c5cfe.Webtop.47@charter.net>
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEvJsyqO5nmWgodBguaMjx6M0CAsFkwG6eRtWz6DTLTUQw@mail.gmail.com>

  Of course its a dumb question, that is why I had to ask the same one last
year!

Paul
Ohio


On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:47 AM, Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:

> Straight from the home page:
>
> '....The answer to the registration anti-bot question is "Datsun
> Sports"......'
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:26 PM, twokeelya at gmail.com wrote:
>
>  trying to register on 311's.org, but cant figure out the anti-bot answer,
>> I've tried all forms of roadster, anyone know that answer?
>> ______________________________**__________
>>
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From twokeelya at gmail.com  Thu May 30 08:06:33 2013
From: twokeelya at gmail.com (twokeelya at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 07:06:33 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] out of hibernation part II Transmission
In-Reply-To: <BLU168-W96BBA8D4A393ECBEE29DCDF910@phx.gbl>
References: <CALOjD_-0B00uYJirVgsWf9WkFnXm+bQpVzgCtFEbixB16e-=Qw@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU168-W96BBA8D4A393ECBEE29DCDF910@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CALOjD_-bZn6uMEuaio+41E+QzQ6ETV1ghmfk9yh15CHvRcUzTw@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you for the info, sounds like a good weekend project. Now, does
anyone have a rebuilt U20 with 5 speed transmission laying around?


On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 5:30 PM, peter harrison <
granvillecomputing at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Re - Removing the engine
> Get PLENTY of PLASTIC baggies - sandwich size and gallon size, plus index
> cards or post-it notes and one or two medium size containers.
> WHen you remove ANYTHING - put it in a baggie and mark it with contents
> and a
> sequential number  and put it in the container ins that order. when you
> come
> to reassemble, you will put things back in reverse order
> NOTE_ it is not typically necessary to remove carbs, starter,manifold etc.
> Disconnect battery and remove
> Drain engine oil - other wise it will leak out of the back
> Drain coolant.
> Disconnect
> reverse switch wires from transmission
> drive shaft - handy to make a note (using a punch) to insure all is
> realigned
> to original spots
> speedo (small tab held by 10mm nut) - remove by twisting anticlockwise
> all ground wires
> starter motor
> alternator
> throttle cables including choke
> fuel line (intake to the pump)
> all hoses at engine side (note - good idea to replace the two SHORT hoses
> between the intake manifold and block and at the rear where the heater stop
> cock is. They are  impossible to replace without major fuss later on.
>
> remove
> fan - loosen shroud first (10 mm bolts)
> shroud
> radiator (you should be able to retain the upper radiator mount attached to
> the radiator)
> washer bottle (not vital - but gets  in the way)
> alternator (gives better access to the engine mounts)
> disconnect engine mounts - note that the front mount bolt is captive
> whereas
> the rear is bolt/nut (good ides to chase them before reinstall  - saves a
> lot
> of wrenching
> 6 bolts holding the transmission to the cross member
> 2 bolts holding the retaining mouint to the actual mount
> 2 bolts holding the mount to the transmission.
>
> shift lever (easier if you remove the shift plate) the shift lever has a
> bevel
> (13mm) at base of lever with a retaining nylock underneath)
>
> Oil line (lower down on passenger side) - you have to unlock from the mount
> (pull retaining clip) before unscrewing from the engine.
>
> Disconnect tach cable
> Disconnect the small line from the distributor
> disconnect all ignition/coil wires
>
> You will need an engine hoist - the engine comes standard with a loop
> attached
> to rear engine bolt on drivers side and another at head front on passenger
> side.
>
> Ideally (for me at least) an engine leveler is usefull.General idea is to
> lift
> engine up and then tilt upwards such that there is an approximate 45 angle
> going forwards - make sure you don't hook into the throttle lever.
>
> Just be gentle and watch for things catching on the frame.
>
> Good luck
>
>
> Depending upon when they were last replaced and current condition - replace
> Clutch - suggest 2 litre clutch plate.
> throwout bearing
> front/rear transmission seals
> pressure plate
>
> check/rebuild clutch slave
>
>
> Peter Harrison
> 818 448 3181
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 15:59:21 -0700
> > From: twokeelya at gmail.com
> > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> > Subject: [Roadsters] out of hibernation part II Transmission
> >
> > thanks for all the tips, yes, inline fuel filter clogged, I'm going to
> have
> > to drain the tank because it clogged up the new one too. The fuel gauge
> had
> > slightly oxidized  contacts, I sanded them lightly, tightened up the
> > connectors and works perfectly. Headlights same thing, I sanded the fuse
> > contacts and they work, I even have a horn. Now, it won't shift into
> fourth
> > gear, goes in, but pops out. I'm sure from all the play in the gearbox
> that
> > it needs rebuilding, I've been putting that off hoping it would fix
> itself
> > (yeah right). SO....now i need help with removing the engine and am
> looking
> > for tips from you masters.I've pulled several mustang and Chevy camero
> > motors, but never a Datsun.  Thanks in advance from your ever so humble
> > learner....
> > Richard
> > 67 SRL529
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Thu May 30 08:17:12 2013
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 07:17:12 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] out of hibernation part II Transmission
In-Reply-To: <CALOjD_-bZn6uMEuaio+41E+QzQ6ETV1ghmfk9yh15CHvRcUzTw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALOjD_-0B00uYJirVgsWf9WkFnXm+bQpVzgCtFEbixB16e-=Qw@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BLU168-W96BBA8D4A393ECBEE29DCDF910@phx.gbl>,
	<CALOjD_-bZn6uMEuaio+41E+QzQ6ETV1ghmfk9yh15CHvRcUzTw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU168-W1207F18354FF6897F1B7182DF910@phx.gbl>

So, I forgot the hood, clutch slave and I clearly meant transmission oil - but
not bad from memory eh??


Peter Harrison
818 448 3181


Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 07:06:33 -0700
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] out of hibernation part II Transmission
From: twokeelya at gmail.com
To: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com
CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net

Thank you for the info, sounds like a good weekend project. Now, does anyone
have a rebuilt U20 with 5 speed transmission laying around?


On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 5:30 PM, peter harrison
<granvillecomputing at hotmail.com> wrote:

Re - Removing the engine

Get PLENTY of PLASTIC baggies - sandwich size and gallon size, plus index

cards or post-it notes and one or two medium size containers.

WHen you remove ANYTHING - put it in a baggie and mark it with contents and
a

sequential number  and put it in the container ins that order. when you come

to reassemble, you will put things back in reverse order

NOTE_ it is not typically necessary to remove carbs, starter,manifold etc.

Disconnect battery and remove

Drain engine oil - other wise it will leak out of the back

Drain coolant.

Disconnect

reverse switch wires from transmission

drive shaft - handy to make a note (using a punch) to insure all is
realigned

to original spots

speedo (small tab held by 10mm nut) - remove by twisting anticlockwise

all ground wires

starter motor

alternator

throttle cables including choke

fuel line (intake to the pump)

all hoses at engine side (note - good idea to replace the two SHORT hoses

between the intake manifold and block and at the rear where the heater stop

cock is. They are  impossible to replace without major fuss later on.


remove

fan - loosen shroud first (10 mm bolts)

shroud

radiator (you should be able to retain the upper radiator mount attached to

the radiator)

washer bottle (not vital - but gets  in the way)

alternator (gives better access to the engine mounts)

disconnect engine mounts - note that the front mount bolt is captive whereas

the rear is bolt/nut (good ides to chase them before reinstall  - saves a
lot

of wrenching

6 bolts holding the transmission to the cross member

2 bolts holding the retaining mouint to the actual mount

2 bolts holding the mount to the transmission.


shift lever (easier if you remove the shift plate) the shift lever has a
bevel

(13mm) at base of lever with a retaining nylock underneath)


Oil line (lower down on passenger side) - you have to unlock from the mount

(pull retaining clip) before unscrewing from the engine.


Disconnect tach cable

Disconnect the small line from the distributor

disconnect all ignition/coil wires


You will need an engine hoist - the engine comes standard with a loop
attached

to rear engine bolt on drivers side and another at head front on passenger

side.


Ideally (for me at least) an engine leveler is usefull.General idea is to
lift

engine up and then tilt upwards such that there is an approximate 45 angle

going forwards - make sure you don't hook into the throttle lever.


Just be gentle and watch for things catching on the frame.


Good luck



Depending upon when they were last replaced and current condition - replace

Clutch - suggest 2 litre clutch plate.

throwout bearing

front/rear transmission seals

pressure plate


check/rebuild clutch slave



Peter Harrison

818 448 3181



> Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 15:59:21 -0700

> From: twokeelya at gmail.com

> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net

> Subject: [Roadsters] out of hibernation part II Transmission

>

> thanks for all the tips, yes, inline fuel filter clogged, I'm going to
have

> to drain the tank because it clogged up the new one too. The fuel gauge
had

> slightly oxidized  contacts, I sanded them lightly, tightened up the

> connectors and works perfectly. Headlights same thing, I sanded the fuse

> contacts and they work, I even have a horn. Now, it won't shift into
fourth

> gear, goes in, but pops out. I'm sure from all the play in the gearbox
that

> it needs rebuilding, I've been putting that off hoping it would fix itself

> (yeah right). SO....now i need help with removing the engine and am
looking

> for tips from you masters.I've pulled several mustang and Chevy camero

> motors, but never a Datsun.  Thanks in advance from your ever so humble

> learner....

> Richard

> 67 SRL529

> ________________________________________

>

> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net

>

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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu May 30 08:29:05 2013
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 14:29:05 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] out of hibernation part II Transmission
Message-ID: <2030210868-1369924144-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-797526745-@b15.c20.bise6.blackberry>

Now that's funny.

Pete

-------Original Message-------
From:  [twokeelya at gmail.com]
Date: Thu, May 30, 2013
To: peter harrison [granvillecomputing at hotmail.com]
Cc: Datsun Roadster List [datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net]
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] out of hibernation part II Transmission

Thank you for the info, sounds like a good weekend project. Now, does
anyone have a rebuilt U20 with 5 speed transmission laying around?

Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

From ericerichoffman at yahoo.com  Thu May 30 11:27:25 2013
From: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com (Eric Hoffman)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 10:27:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] my spectacular opel gt on ebay
Message-ID: <1369934845.56259.YahooMailClassic@web161803.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

item number 321120188639
 
link
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Opel-GT-Spectacular-1973-Opel-GT-49-000-origin
al-miles-bare-metal-respray-/321120188639?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4ac44138
df&vxp=mtr#

From tpsmithstl at yahoo.com  Thu May 30 14:58:00 2013
From: tpsmithstl at yahoo.com (Perry Smith)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 13:58:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Send pics.
Message-ID: <1369947480.68429.YahooMailClassic@web162902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

I am forwarding this as a favor to a friend.  The car is located in Fenton, MO
- just outside St. Louis.  I have personally seen this car and it looks
immaculate.  I know he stored the car in his basement every Winter, so it
hasn't even seen the typical bad weather here in StL.  This is a 1600.

I have no financial interest in the car and I'm perfectly happy with my 2L,
but wanted to let the list know of it before he sends it to the general
community.
  


From: Charles Davis [mailto:daviscw at earthlink.net]

Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 3:04 PM

To: Smith, Perry

Subject: Fwd: Send pics. 


   

The car. If you could let some folks know
about it.  105,000 miles. $10m


Charles W. Davis 

314-541-4749 (cell) 


   


   


   


   


   


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Begin forwarded message: 



From: Aubrey Bronskill <brons97 at hotmail.com>

Date: May 25, 2013, 2:01:23 PM CDT

To: Charles Davis <daviscw at earthlink.net>

Subject: RE: Send pics. 





Charlie - these are old, but the car still
looks the same.  Appreciate the help!

  

> Subject: Send pics.

> From: daviscw at earthlink.net

> Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 17:05:42 -0500

> To: brons97 at hotmail.com

>

>

>

>

>

> Charles W. Davis

> 314-541-4749 (cell)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> From iPhone

>

>

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From tpsmithstl at yahoo.com  Thu May 30 14:59:59 2013
From: tpsmithstl at yahoo.com (Perry Smith)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 13:59:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Send pics.
Message-ID: <1369947599.79375.YahooMailClassic@web162905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Sorry,  contact information is:


Steve Bronskill

636-225-2705

314-753-0288
 
 

> Subject: Send pics.

> From: daviscw at earthlink.net

> Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 17:05:42 -0500

> To: brons97 at hotmail.com

>

>

>

>

>

> Charles W. Davis

> 314-541-4749 (cell)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> From iPhone

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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu May 30 16:09:07 2013
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 22:09:07 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Send pics.
In-Reply-To: <1369947480.68429.YahooMailClassic@web162902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1369947480.68429.YahooMailClassic@web162902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1876647974-1369951744-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-780468277-@b15.c20.bise6.blackberry>

It may be immaculate, but $10 million?

Pete
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: Perry Smith <tpsmithstl at yahoo.com>
Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Thu, 30 May 2013 13:58:00 
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Send pics.

I am forwarding this as a favor to a friend.  The car is located in Fenton, MO
- just outside St. Louis.  I have personally seen this car and it looks
immaculate.  I know he stored the car in his basement every Winter, so it
hasn't even seen the typical bad weather here in StL.  This is a 1600.

I have no financial interest in the car and I'm perfectly happy with my 2L,
but wanted to let the list know of it before he sends it to the general
community.
  


From: Charles Davis [mailto:daviscw at earthlink.net]

Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 3:04 PM

To: Smith, Perry

Subject: Fwd: Send pics. 


   

The car. If you could let some folks know
about it.  105,000 miles. $10m


Charles W. Davis 

314-541-4749 (cell) 


   


   


   


   


   


From
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Begin forwarded message: 



From: Aubrey Bronskill <brons97 at hotmail.com>

Date: May 25, 2013, 2:01:23 PM CDT

To: Charles Davis <daviscw at earthlink.net>

Subject: RE: Send pics. 





Charlie - these are old, but the car still
looks the same.  Appreciate the help!

  

> Subject: Send pics.

> From: daviscw at earthlink.net

> Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 17:05:42 -0500

> To: brons97 at hotmail.com

>

>

>

>

>

> Charles W. Davis

> 314-541-4749 (cell)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> From iPhone

>

>

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From rayalma at aol.com  Thu May 30 20:58:41 2013
From: rayalma at aol.com (rayalma at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 22:58:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] What is the Original Engine Color for 69 Datsun 2000?
Message-ID: <8D02BC1E41396DB-15D4-3FF71@webmail-d217.sysops.aol.com>

Hi,

Does anyone have the color no. or knows the color shade?
Any info is appreciated.

Ray

From rtdengr at charter.net  Thu May 30 22:11:55 2013
From: rtdengr at charter.net (Bob Dicke)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 23:11:55 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Send pics.
In-Reply-To: <1876647974-1369951744-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-780468277-@b15.c20.bise6.blackberry>
References: <1369947480.68429.YahooMailClassic@web162902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<1876647974-1369951744-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-780468277-@b15.c20.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <1ea001ce5db4$fca45e50$f5ed1af0$@charter.net>

Ten million would be $10MM

Bob






-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
ppeters914 at comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:09 PM
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: Send pics.

It may be immaculate, but $10 million?

Pete
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: Perry Smith <tpsmithstl at yahoo.com>
Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Thu, 30 May 2013
13:58:00
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Send pics.

I am forwarding this as a favor to a friend.  The car is located in Fenton,
MO
- just outside St. Louis.  I have personally seen this car and it looks
immaculate.  I know he stored the car in his basement every Winter, so it
hasn't even seen the typical bad weather here in StL.  This is a 1600.

I have no financial interest in the car and I'm perfectly happy with my 2L,
but wanted to let the list know of it before he sends it to the general
community.
  


From: Charles Davis [mailto:daviscw at earthlink.net]

Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 3:04 PM

To: Smith, Perry

Subject: Fwd: Send pics. 


   

The car. If you could let some folks know about it.  105,000 miles. $10m


Charles W. Davis 

314-541-4749 (cell) 


   


   


   


   


   


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Begin forwarded message: 



From: Aubrey Bronskill <brons97 at hotmail.com>

Date: May 25, 2013, 2:01:23 PM CDT

To: Charles Davis <daviscw at earthlink.net>

Subject: RE: Send pics. 





Charlie - these are old, but the car still looks the same.  Appreciate the
help!

  

> Subject: Send pics.

> From: daviscw at earthlink.net

> Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 17:05:42 -0500

> To: brons97 at hotmail.com

>

>

>

>

>

> Charles W. Davis

> 314-541-4749 (cell)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> From iPhone

>

>

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From tommy at dcwisp.net  Thu May 30 23:13:07 2013
From: tommy at dcwisp.net (Thomas Thompson)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 22:13:07 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Send pics.
In-Reply-To: <1ea001ce5db4$fca45e50$f5ed1af0$@charter.net>
References: <1369947480.68429.YahooMailClassic@web162902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com><1876647974-1369951744-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-780468277-@b15.c20.bise6.blackberry>
	<1ea001ce5db4$fca45e50$f5ed1af0$@charter.net>
Message-ID: <ED753B06B8D94531AF01FC91A35F2D7E@ThompsonPC>

The US is the only industrialized country on the planet that doesn't use the 
metric system (something we have in common with Burma and Liberia), although 
most of us medical doctors use it regularly. It was hilarious when, as a 
college senior working at 7-11 in Lawrence, Kansas in 1974 (and driving the 
only Datsun roadster in town), we switched the gas pumps to liters, 
confusing the ignorant masses beyond belief.  Still, most of us would use 
the metric '$10K' to represent ten thousand dollars, reserving Roman 
numerals only for 'millions' and Mafia talk. Note, however, that while Bob's 
MM is meant to represent one thousand thousand, in Roman numeral speak it's 
actually only two thousand, so $10MM is really only twenty thousand 
dollars.....
T
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Dicke" <rtdengr at charter.net>
To: <ppeters914 at comcast.net>; "'Datsun Roadster List'" 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: Send pics.


> Ten million would be $10MM
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> ppeters914 at comcast.net
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:09 PM
> To: Datsun Roadster List
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: Send pics.
>
> It may be immaculate, but $10 million?
>
> Pete
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Perry Smith <tpsmithstl at yahoo.com>
> Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Thu, 30 May 2013
> 13:58:00
> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Send pics.
>
> I am forwarding this as a favor to a friend.  The car is located in 
> Fenton,
> MO
> - just outside St. Louis.  I have personally seen this car and it looks
> immaculate.  I know he stored the car in his basement every Winter, so it
> hasn't even seen the typical bad weather here in StL.  This is a 1600.
>
> I have no financial interest in the car and I'm perfectly happy with my 
> 2L,
> but wanted to let the list know of it before he sends it to the general
> community.
>
>
>
> From: Charles Davis [mailto:daviscw at earthlink.net]
>
> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 3:04 PM
>
> To: Smith, Perry
>
> Subject: Fwd: Send pics.
>
>
>
>
> The car. If you could let some folks know about it.  105,000 miles. $10m
>
>
> Charles W. Davis
>
> 314-541-4749 (cell)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From
> iPad
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>
>
> From: Aubrey Bronskill <brons97 at hotmail.com>
>
> Date: May 25, 2013, 2:01:23 PM CDT
>
> To: Charles Davis <daviscw at earthlink.net>
>
> Subject: RE: Send pics.
>
>
>
>
>
> Charlie - these are old, but the car still looks the same.  Appreciate the
> help!
>
>
>
>> Subject: Send pics.
>
>> From: daviscw at earthlink.net
>
>> Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 17:05:42 -0500
>
>> To: brons97 at hotmail.com
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Charles W. Davis
>
>> 314-541-4749 (cell)
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> From iPhone
>
>>
>
>>
>
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu May 30 23:55:57 2013
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 22:55:57 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Ten how much? (was "FW: Send pics.")
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Metric is sooooooooo easy. In 1989, there was still one speed limit sign in
kilometers going over the Likelike Hwy on O'hau, HI. Wonder if it's still
there. Anyway....

Other than Roman numerals, I have never seen "MM" stand for anything other
than millimeters. Had to Google it to learn that MM is a correct
abbreviation.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Thompson [mailto:tommy at dcwisp.net] 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 10:13 PM
To: Bob Dicke; ppeters914 at comcast.net; 'Datsun Roadster List'
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: Send pics.

The US is the only industrialized country on the planet that doesn't use the
metric system (something we have in common with Burma and Liberia), although
most of us medical doctors use it regularly. It was hilarious when, as a
college senior working at 7-11 in Lawrence, Kansas in 1974 (and driving the
only Datsun roadster in town), we switched the gas pumps to liters,
confusing the ignorant masses beyond belief.  Still, most of us would use
the metric '$10K' to represent ten thousand dollars, reserving Roman
numerals only for 'millions' and Mafia talk. Note, however, that while Bob's
MM is meant to represent one thousand thousand, in Roman numeral speak it's
actually only two thousand, so $10MM is really only twenty thousand
dollars.....
T
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Dicke" <rtdengr at charter.net>
To: <ppeters914 at comcast.net>; "'Datsun Roadster List'" 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: Send pics.


> Ten million would be $10MM
>
> Bob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of 
> ppeters914 at comcast.net
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:09 PM
> To: Datsun Roadster List
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: Send pics.
>
> It may be immaculate, but $10 million?
>
> Pete
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Perry Smith <tpsmithstl at yahoo.com>
> Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Thu, 30 May 2013
> 13:58:00
> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Send pics.
>
> I am forwarding this as a favor to a friend.  The car is located in 
> Fenton, MO
> - just outside St. Louis.  I have personally seen this car and it 
> looks immaculate.  I know he stored the car in his basement every 
> Winter, so it hasn't even seen the typical bad weather here in StL.  This
is a 1600.
>
> I have no financial interest in the car and I'm perfectly happy with 
> my 2L, but wanted to let the list know of it before he sends it to the 
> general community.
>
>
>
> From: Charles Davis [mailto:daviscw at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 3:04 PM
> To: Smith, Perry
> Subject: Fwd: Send pics.
>
> The car. If you could let some folks know about it.  105,000 miles. 
> $10m

From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Fri May 31 00:13:45 2013
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 23:13:45 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Ten how much? (was "FW: Send pics.")
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For millimeters, mm would be lowercase.

Always preferred metric for physics problems involving mass,  
acceleration, etc., in college -- but when I worked as a machinist I  
hated metric -- the thread system is the worst compared to English  
measure.

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

On May 30, 2013, at 10:55 PM, Pete Peters wrote:

> Metric is sooooooooo easy. In 1989, there was still one speed limit  
> sign in
> kilometers going over the Likelike Hwy on O'hau, HI. Wonder if it's  
> still
> there. Anyway....
>
> Other than Roman numerals, I have never seen "MM" stand for  
> anything other
> than millimeters. Had to Google it to learn that MM is a correct
> abbreviation.
>
> Pete
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Thompson [mailto:tommy at dcwisp.net]
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 10:13 PM
> To: Bob Dicke; ppeters914 at comcast.net; 'Datsun Roadster List'
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: Send pics.
>
> The US is the only industrialized country on the planet that  
> doesn't use the
> metric system (something we have in common with Burma and Liberia),  
> although
> most of us medical doctors use it regularly. It was hilarious when,  
> as a
> college senior working at 7-11 in Lawrence, Kansas in 1974 (and  
> driving the
> only Datsun roadster in town), we switched the gas pumps to liters,
> confusing the ignorant masses beyond belief.  Still, most of us  
> would use
> the metric '$10K' to represent ten thousand dollars, reserving Roman
> numerals only for 'millions' and Mafia talk. Note, however, that  
> while Bob's
> MM is meant to represent one thousand thousand, in Roman numeral  
> speak it's
> actually only two thousand, so $10MM is really only twenty thousand
> dollars.....
> T
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Dicke" <rtdengr at charter.net>
> To: <ppeters914 at comcast.net>; "'Datsun Roadster List'"
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 9:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: Send pics.
>
>
>> Ten million would be $10MM
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
>> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
>> ppeters914 at comcast.net
>> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:09 PM
>> To: Datsun Roadster List
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: Send pics.
>>
>> It may be immaculate, but $10 million?
>>
>> Pete
>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Perry Smith <tpsmithstl at yahoo.com>
>> Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Thu, 30 May 2013
>> 13:58:00
>> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Send pics.
>>
>> I am forwarding this as a favor to a friend.  The car is located in
>> Fenton, MO
>> - just outside St. Louis.  I have personally seen this car and it
>> looks immaculate.  I know he stored the car in his basement every
>> Winter, so it hasn't even seen the typical bad weather here in  
>> StL.  This
> is a 1600.
>>
>> I have no financial interest in the car and I'm perfectly happy with
>> my 2L, but wanted to let the list know of it before he sends it to  
>> the
>> general community.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Charles Davis [mailto:daviscw at earthlink.net]
>> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 3:04 PM
>> To: Smith, Perry
>> Subject: Fwd: Send pics.
>>
>> The car. If you could let some folks know about it.  105,000 miles.
>> $10m
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From RWM at RWMann.com  Fri May 31 04:44:15 2013
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 06:44:15 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] What is the Original Engine Color for 69 Datsun
 2000?
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References: <8D02BC1E41396DB-15D4-3FF71@webmail-d217.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <51A87EFF.2070405@RWMann.com>

"Datsun Engine Block True Blue/Green"

http://datsunpartsllc.com/cart/index.php?p=product&id=205&parent=14


On 5/30/2013 10:58 PM, rayalma at aol.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone have the color no. or knows the color shade?
> Any info is appreciated.
>
> Ray

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri May 31 07:28:30 2013
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 13:28:30 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] What is the Original Engine Color for 69 Datsun
 2000?
In-Reply-To: <51A87EFF.2070405@RWMann.com>
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	<51A87EFF.2070405@RWMann.com>
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There's also several threads in the 311s.org forums on the original engine paint color including (IIRC) how to blend your own and acceptable alternates. 

Pete
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: RWM <RWM at RWMann.com>
Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Fri, 31 May 2013 06:44:15 
To: <rayalma at aol.com>
Cc: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What is the Original Engine Color for 69 Datsun
 2000?

"Datsun Engine Block True Blue/Green"

http://datsunpartsllc.com/cart/index.php?p=product&id=205&parent=14


On 5/30/2013 10:58 PM, rayalma at aol.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone have the color no. or knows the color shade?
> Any info is appreciated.
>
> Ray
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From edsandie at telus.net  Fri May 31 09:16:31 2013
From: edsandie at telus.net (Ed and Sandie)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 08:16:31 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] frustrated question.....:)
Message-ID: <9305EB79702A464A83FD46BE147B9DC1@sandiePC>

We have a 1969 2000 roadster SRL 311 we are restoring, we installed the
sweeper weatherstrip on the door window but it wont stay straight, inside
piece always rolling up and outside rubber squeegie rolls in when we roll it
down, is there a something we are doing wrong?  OR is this the way it will be,
or should we glue the inside track? OR is it fitting too tight?

Thanks Sandie

From mhatch at ics.com  Fri May 31 12:13:23 2013
From: mhatch at ics.com (Mark Hatch)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 11:13:23 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters]  frustrated question.....:)
Message-ID: <48435a377c9114242325322bc4a2dfa7@mail.gmail.com>

Me toob&



Dead @ Fairlady sells an improved strip that seems better than the NOS. But
it also has the problem.



After staring at the window and door a lot, I came to the conclusion that
it had to deal with the window channel making one edge closer to the
sweeper and so create too much friction. I got some relief by adjusting the
window channel (read enlarge the bolt hole for the channel and move it out.
But that didnbt seem to really work much.



Anybody else have  solution?



Mark





Message: 4

Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 08:16:31 -0700

From: "Ed and Sandie" <edsandie at telus.net>

To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>

Subject: [Roadsters] frustrated question.....:)

Message-ID: <9305EB79702A464A83FD46BE147B9DC1 at sandiePC>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"



We have a 1969 2000 roadster SRL 311 we are restoring, we installed the

sweeper weatherstrip on the door window but it wont stay straight, inside

piece always rolling up and outside rubber squeegie rolls in when we roll it

down, is there a something we are doing wrong?  OR is this the way it will
be,

or should we glue the inside track? OR is it fitting too tight?



Thanks Sandie

From tommy at dcwisp.net  Fri May 31 13:06:06 2013
From: tommy at dcwisp.net (Thomas Thompson)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 12:06:06 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] frustrated question.....:)
Message-ID: <h6vagjmghtbfag28aicetfdn.1370027166661@email.android.com>

The rubber will stiffen after a year or so, and stop folding in/out. Until then use a credit card or similar to straighten it. Fortunately, it's rare to have the windows up and down frequently.

Mark Hatch <mhatch at ics.com> wrote:

>Me toob&
>
>
>
>Dead @ Fairlady sells an improved strip that seems better than the NOS. But
>it also has the problem.
>
>
>
>After staring at the window and door a lot, I came to the conclusion that
>it had to deal with the window channel making one edge closer to the
>sweeper and so create too much friction. I got some relief by adjusting the
>window channel (read enlarge the bolt hole for the channel and move it out.
>But that didnbt seem to really work much.
>
>
>
>Anybody else have  solution?
>
>
>
>Mark
>
>
>
>
>
>Message: 4
>
>Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 08:16:31 -0700
>
>From: "Ed and Sandie" <edsandie at telus.net>
>
>To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>
>Subject: [Roadsters] frustrated question.....:)
>
>Message-ID: <9305EB79702A464A83FD46BE147B9DC1 at sandiePC>
>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>
>We have a 1969 2000 roadster SRL 311 we are restoring, we installed the
>
>sweeper weatherstrip on the door window but it wont stay straight, inside
>
>piece always rolling up and outside rubber squeegie rolls in when we roll it
>
>down, is there a something we are doing wrong?  OR is this the way it will
>be,
>
>or should we glue the inside track? OR is it fitting too tight?
>
>
>
>Thanks Sandie
>________________________________________
>
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>
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From ricksrl at yahoo.com  Fri May 31 13:09:23 2013
From: ricksrl at yahoo.com (Rick Stayner)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 12:09:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] frustrated question.....:)
In-Reply-To: <48435a377c9114242325322bc4a2dfa7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48435a377c9114242325322bc4a2dfa7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1370027363.97766.YahooMailNeo@web120904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I put a stop on my window regulator so that the window hits it before the
squeegee bends downward. The window sits about 3/16 above the inner felt, and
I have Dean's improved weather strip installed. Dean's are way better than
OEM.
 
Rick Stayner
69 2000
Harrisburg, Pa
 

________________________________
From: Mark Hatch <mhatch at ics.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net 
Sent:
Friday, May 31, 2013 2:13 PM
Subject: [Roadsters]  frustrated question.....:)
Me toob&



Dead @ Fairlady sells an improved strip that seems better than the
NOS. But
it also has the problem.



After staring at the window and door a
lot, I came to the conclusion that
it had to deal with the window channel
making one edge closer to the
sweeper and so create too much friction. I got
some relief by adjusting the
window channel (read enlarge the bolt hole for
the channel and move it out.
But that didnbt seem to really work much.
Anybody else have  solution?



Mark





Message: 4

Date: Fri, 31 May 2013
08:16:31 -0700

From: "Ed and Sandie" <edsandie at telus.net>

To:
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>

Subject: [Roadsters] frustrated
question.....:)

Message-ID: <9305EB79702A464A83FD46BE147B9DC1 at sandiePC>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"



We have a 1969 2000 roadster
SRL 311 we are restoring, we installed the

sweeper weatherstrip on the door
window but it wont stay straight, inside

piece always rolling up and outside
rubber squeegie rolls in when we roll it

down, is there a something we are
doing wrong?  OR is this the way it will
be,

or should we glue the inside
track? OR is it fitting too tight?



Thanks Sandie
________________________________________

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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Fri May 31 16:53:04 2013
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 15:53:04 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] frustrated question.....:)
In-Reply-To: <9305EB79702A464A83FD46BE147B9DC1@sandiePC>
References: <9305EB79702A464A83FD46BE147B9DC1@sandiePC>
Message-ID: <BLU168-W110A35A12FE9CC6EEE1A55DDF920@phx.gbl>

I thought the INSIDE fabric strip was FIXED to the finishing piece on top of
the interior vinyl. - thus it should NEVER move.

I have new OEM (though not as good as Deans) but it doesn't roll. Are you sure
that you inserted it deep enough in the channel where it sits. You could also
try crimping the channel tight against the strip - this will give it a more
upright stance.

Also use some protectant on the strip (NOT Armorall ) - that should make it
less likely to bind.

You could always put grease on your windows <G>

Peter Harrison
818 448 3181


> From: edsandie at telus.net
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 08:16:31 -0700
> Subject: [Roadsters] frustrated question.....:)
>
> We have a 1969 2000 roadster SRL 311 we are restoring, we installed the
> sweeper weatherstrip on the door window but it wont stay straight, inside
> piece always rolling up and outside rubber squeegie rolls in when we roll
it
> down, is there a something we are doing wrong?  OR is this the way it will
be,
> or should we glue the inside track? OR is it fitting too tight?
>
> Thanks Sandie
> ________________________________________
>
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From dynaguy54 at hotmail.com  Fri May 31 17:14:56 2013
From: dynaguy54 at hotmail.com (Pat Mahoney)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 16:14:56 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] frustrated question.....:)
In-Reply-To: <BLU168-W110A35A12FE9CC6EEE1A55DDF920@phx.gbl>
References: <9305EB79702A464A83FD46BE147B9DC1@sandiePC>,
	<BLU168-W110A35A12FE9CC6EEE1A55DDF920@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU170-W91718DEF451F60633D402EB7920@phx.gbl>

I cleaned the rubber with alcohol, then applied Rain-x to the inside of the
window glass to reduce the friction.  Worked great!



Pat
> >
> > We have a 1969 2000 roadster SRL 311 we are restoring, we installed the
> > sweeper weatherstrip on the door window but it wont stay straight, inside
> > piece always rolling up and outside rubber squeegie rolls in when we roll
> it
> > down, is there a something we are doing wrong? OR is this the way it will
> be,
> > or should we glue the inside track? OR is it fitting too tight?
> >
> > Thanks Sandie
> > ________________________________________
> >
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