From hrhaslett at yahoo.com Tue Jan 1 11:26:00 2013 From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 10:26:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues- follow up In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1357064760.81781.YahooMailNeo@web162002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Happy New Year All, Just wanted to report back on the issues with my 67 1600, you all gave me excellent advice and suggestions as well as info online. The root of my problem was a very bad intake air leak that rendered the 1 and 2 cylinders dead. I pulled off and replaced all the gaskets on the carbs , cleaned them, and replaced the insulator block gaskets. Manifold gasket was ok. its a good one I got from Dean. The car started right up. I balanced the carbs at idle, using a UniSyn, perfect at 700rpm. Set the service screw and, with a few attempts and fiddling, got the carbs balanced at 2000rpm. I went back and rechecked my dwell and timing and it is spot on with the the vacuum advance working properly. Now its time to rebuild the brakes, need all new rubber bits for the calipers and wheel cylinders....any suggestions/tips ??????? Thanks Again Roy ________________________________ ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/hrhaslett at yahoo.com From hrhaslett at yahoo.com Fri Jan 4 23:35:11 2013 From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 22:35:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Dwell setting question 67 1600 Message-ID: <1357367711.70271.YahooMailNeo@web162005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I have set my dwell using a meter and with the starter motor turning it is 52 degrees. Timing is set with timing light at 16 BTDC. When the car is started and idling at 600-700rpm the dwell shows 58 degrees. When rpm is increased to 3000 rpm dwell drops to 50 degrees. Is this correct and within specs? From graemes at internode.on.net Sat Jan 5 00:10:56 2013 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling) Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2013 17:40:56 +1030 Subject: [Roadsters] Dwell setting question 67 1600 In-Reply-To: <1357367711.70271.YahooMailNeo@web162005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1357367711.70271.YahooMailNeo@web162005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <50E7D200.6000603@internode.on.net> For Hitachi dist. gap is 0.45 - 0.55mm or dwell of 50 - 54deg. For Mitsubishi dist. gap is 0.45 - 0.55mm or dwell of 56 - 61deg. Reference: - SP[L]311 Service Manual :-) Regards, Graeme Suckling http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia. On 5/01/2013 5:05 PM, Roy Haslett wrote: > I have set my dwell using a meter and with the starter motor turning it is 52 > degrees. Timing is set with timing light at 16 BTDC. When the car is started > and idling at 600-700rpm the dwell shows 58 degrees. When rpm is increased to > 3000 rpm dwell drops to 50 degrees. Is this correct and within specs? > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on.net From hrhaslett at yahoo.com Sat Jan 5 18:00:55 2013 From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 17:00:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] free pair of doors Message-ID: <1357434055.20934.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Hey All, I have a rough pair of doors for a early 67 1600. has good glass and mechanisms, includes wing frame assembly some trim. I am going to scrap them if no one takes them. Thanks Roy From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com Sun Jan 6 06:59:46 2013 From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 05:59:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] free pair of doors In-Reply-To: <1357434055.20934.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1357480786.68610.YahooMailClassic@web124901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Roy, where are you? Mike Harper, CAI, AARE Harper Auction & Realty 843-729-4996 "Experience Sells" www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET --- On Sat, 1/5/13, Roy Haslett wrote: From: Roy Haslett Subject: [Roadsters] free pair of doors To: "Datsun Owners List" Date: Saturday, January 5, 2013, 8:00 PM Hey All, I have a rough pair of doors for a early 67 1600. has good glass and mechanisms, includes wing frame assembly some trim. I am going to scrap them if no one takes them. Thanks Roy From roadster at astound.net Sun Jan 6 16:25:45 2013 From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 15:25:45 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] free pair of doors In-Reply-To: <1357434055.20934.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1357434055.20934.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9E195972-C0DB-4DD4-8E25-4DE279F2B665@astound.net> If you get no offers, please don't scrap them in their entirety. Take out the wing-frame assembly and trim, and donate them to the nearest roadster show for raffle drawings. Must be someone willing to transport them for you. Fred - On Jan 5, 2013, at 5:00 PM, Roy Haslett wrote: > Hey All, > I have a rough pair of doors for a early 67 1600. has good glass and > mechanisms, includes wing frame assembly some trim. I am going to scrap > them if no one takes them. > Thanks > Roy > ________________________________________ From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Mon Jan 7 09:45:34 2013 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 16:45:34 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster OT: Pathfinder (VG30E) temp gauge wonky Message-ID: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F660217D91C@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> Trying to help out a family friend to whom I owe numerous favors. Rode in his ~86 Pathfinder (VG30E/5spd) admittedly in freezing weather (10-20F), and it seemed to me that the thermostat has gone wonky, but need critique of the diagnosis. On start-up the temp gauge stays on dead cold, for quite a while (longer than it should), defroster blows cold, so it is truly cold. Then the begins to rise, and then cycles up/down with the engine speed, (mind you we only got up to 25-35mph, but it was ~15 degreesF) as if the revving is injecting heat, but the temp gauge is responding almost as quickly as the tach. (possible parallel elec issue?) Starts to blow slightly warmer air out of the defroster, but never really gets HOT. I am thinking the thermostat is getting crusty/clogged, so is slow to respond initially, then is snapping open and staying crustily stuck in that position. (but wouldn't the temp gauge be reading radiator output water temp, and thus be reacting somewhat slowly to engine revs, not reading radiator input water temp and thus reacting quickly to heat inputs?) Perplexed, and trying to pass on good advice before someone digs in to an "dry, as yet undisturbed, but with 130k+ miles" engine. Thanks, and happy holidays, Fergus O (thankfully back to a warmer climate) From graemes at internode.on.net Mon Jan 7 16:40:00 2013 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 10:10:00 +1030 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster OT: Pathfinder (VG30E) temp gauge wonky In-Reply-To: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F660217D91C@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> References: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F660217D91C@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> Message-ID: <50EB5CD0.6080006@internode.on.net> Hi F, my educated guess is that the thermostat is stuck OPEN. That will cause the engine to use COLD coolant from start up. The temp. gauge reads from the ENGINE side of the thermostat so it is highly likely that it will fluctuate as the engine momentarily heats the coolant. Better than being stuck closed, BUT, still requiring to be changed:-) Regards, Graeme Suckling http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia. On 8/01/2013 3:15 AM, O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS) wrote: > Trying to help out a family friend to whom I owe numerous favors. > Rode in his ~86 Pathfinder (VG30E/5spd) admittedly in freezing weather > (10-20F), and it seemed to me that the thermostat has gone wonky, but need > critique of the diagnosis. > > On start-up the temp gauge stays on dead cold, for quite a while (longer than > it should), defroster blows cold, so it is truly cold. > Then the begins to rise, and then cycles up/down with the engine speed, (mind > you we only got up to 25-35mph, but it was ~15 degreesF) as if the revving is > injecting heat, but the temp gauge is responding almost as quickly as the > tach. (possible parallel elec issue?) Starts to blow slightly warmer air out > of the defroster, but never really gets HOT. > > I am thinking the thermostat is getting crusty/clogged, so is slow to respond > initially, then is snapping open and staying crustily stuck in that position. > (but wouldn't the temp gauge be reading radiator output water temp, and thus > be reacting somewhat slowly to engine revs, not reading radiator input water > temp and thus reacting quickly to heat inputs?) > > Perplexed, and trying to pass on good advice before someone digs in to an > "dry, as yet undisturbed, but with 130k+ miles" engine. > > Thanks, and happy holidays, > Fergus O > (thankfully back to a warmer climate) From tputland at charter.net Mon Jan 7 19:04:07 2013 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 21:04:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] need some parts please Message-ID: <10738233.3039a1.13c17e67e26.Webtop.47@charter.net> I need an R16 cam shaft bolt and retainer plate and bolts there for as well as the 2 tensioner bolts and I'd take a locking plate for the tensioner as well PLEASE. Mock up is at a stand still because of missing parts. TIA tim From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 8 14:13:45 2013 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 13:13:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Number of Roadster survivors? Message-ID: <1357679625.35017.YahooMailClassic@web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Anyone, anywhere, have ballpark figures on how many Datsun Roadsters are still in existence? Gary McCormick 1970 2000, SRL311-13291 Not driving, but still here (maybe /this/ summer...) From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Jan 8 14:20:49 2013 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 21:20:49 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Number of Roadster survivors? In-Reply-To: <1357679625.35017.YahooMailClassic@web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1357679625.35017.YahooMailClassic@web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1436729969-1357680049-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1632348604-@b13.c20.bise6.blackberry> 42 Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Gary McCormick Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 13:13:45 To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] Number of Roadster survivors? Anyone, anywhere, have ballpark figures on how many Datsun Roadsters are still in existence? Gary McCormick 1970 2000, SRL311-13291 Not driving, but still here (maybe /this/ summer...) ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net From andrewwilliamconner at gmail.com Tue Jan 8 14:44:29 2013 From: andrewwilliamconner at gmail.com (Andy Conner) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 16:44:29 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Number of Roadster survivors? In-Reply-To: <1436729969-1357680049-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1632348604-@b13.c20.bise6.blackberry> References: <1357679625.35017.YahooMailClassic@web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1436729969-1357680049-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1632348604-@b13.c20.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: I'll take the over. On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 4:20 PM, wrote: > 42 > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary McCormick > Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 > 13:13:45 > To: Datsun Roadster List > Subject: [Roadsters] Number of Roadster survivors? > > Anyone, anywhere, have ballpark figures on how many Datsun Roadsters are > still in existence? > > Gary McCormick > 1970 2000, SRL311-13291 > Not driving, but still here (maybe /this/ summer...) > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/andrewwilliamconner at gmail.com From futofab at gsinet.net Tue Jan 8 19:24:23 2013 From: futofab at gsinet.net (David Patten) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 21:24:23 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Number of Roadster survivors? In-Reply-To: References: <1357679625.35017.YahooMailClassic@web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1436729969-1357680049-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1632348604-@b13.c20.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: 42 hehehe - end of this thread. On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Andy Conner wrote: > I'll take the over. > > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 4:20 PM, wrote: > > > 42 > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gary McCormick > > Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 > > 13:13:45 > > To: Datsun Roadster List > > Subject: [Roadsters] Number of Roadster survivors? > > > > Anyone, anywhere, have ballpark figures on how many Datsun Roadsters are > > still in existence? > > > > Gary McCormick > > 1970 2000, SRL311-13291 > > Not driving, but still here (maybe /this/ summer...) > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/andrewwilliamconner at gmail.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/futofab at gsinet.net From chalsted at comcast.net Wed Jan 9 07:56:32 2013 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 14:56:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] NADA roadster values In-Reply-To: <220781135.1504195.1357743070728.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <364407616.1504421.1357743392872.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> just got my latest NADA Classic, Collectible, Exotic and Muscle Car Appraisal Guide and Directory (whew!) thought I'd share what they have for roadster values...all will be the listed high book. 1500 63 $18,900 64 $17,200 65 $16,300 1600 66 $21,600 67 $20,900 68 $20,300 69 $19,500 70 $19,100 2000 67 $36,300 68 $26,300 69 $25,800 70 $25,400 From RWM at RWMann.com Wed Jan 9 08:06:06 2013 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 10:06:06 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] NADA roadster values In-Reply-To: <364407616.1504421.1357743392872.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <364407616.1504421.1357743392872.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <50ED875E.1030308@RWMann.com> Yowzah! Must be because there are only 42 (+/-) remaining.... On 1/9/2013 9:56 AM, chalsted at comcast.net wrote: > just got my latest NADA Classic, Collectible, Exotic and Muscle Car Appraisal Guide and Directory (whew!) thought I'd share what they have for roadster values...all will be the listed high book. > > > 1500 > 63 $18,900 > 64 $17,200 > 65 $16,300 > > > 1600 > 66 $21,600 > 67 $20,900 > 68 $20,300 > 69 $19,500 > 70 $19,100 > > > 2000 > 67 $36,300 > 68 $26,300 > 69 $25,800 > 70 $25,400 > __________ From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Wed Jan 9 08:07:54 2013 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (Paul Courson) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 10:07:54 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] NADA roadster values In-Reply-To: <364407616.1504421.1357743392872.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <220781135.1504195.1357743070728.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <364407616.1504421.1357743392872.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Wow! If I were just getting into this those prices would make me jump off a fiscal cliff! And to think in 1980 when I was halfway shopping for a 230-280SL they could be had for about $10K. Valuations on 311s have more than quadrupled in the same time frame, based on the NADA figures. On Jan 9, 2013 9:58 AM, wrote: > just got my latest NADA Classic, Collectible, Exotic and Muscle Car > Appraisal Guide and Directory (whew!) thought I'd share what they have for > roadster values...all will be the listed high book. > > > 1500 > 63 $18,900 > 64 $17,200 > 65 $16,300 > > > 1600 > 66 $21,600 > 67 $20,900 > 68 $20,300 > 69 $19,500 > 70 $19,100 > > > 2000 > 67 $36,300 > 68 $26,300 > 69 $25,800 > 70 $25,400 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com From ljordan704 at netscape.net Wed Jan 9 08:12:41 2013 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 07:12:41 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] NADA roadster values In-Reply-To: <364407616.1504421.1357743392872.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <364407616.1504421.1357743392872.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: High appraisals are good for their book sales it seems. Linda Sent from my iPod On Jan 9, 2013, at 6:56 AM, chalsted at comcast.net wrote: > just got my latest NADA Classic, Collectible, Exotic and Muscle Car Appraisal Guide and Directory (whew!) thought I'd share what they have for roadster values...all will be the listed high book. > > > 1500 > 63 $18,900 > 64 $17,200 > 65 $16,300 > > > 1600 > 66 $21,600 > 67 $20,900 > 68 $20,300 > 69 $19,500 > 70 $19,100 > > > 2000 > 67 $36,300 > 68 $26,300 > 69 $25,800 > 70 $25,400 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From anwhiteford at att.net Wed Jan 9 09:54:03 2013 From: anwhiteford at att.net (Andrew Whiteford) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 08:54:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] NADA roadster values In-Reply-To: References: <364407616.1504421.1357743392872.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1357750443.34105.YahooMailRC@web181605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Unfortunately when it comes to Roadster values, we've seen the enemy and us. In the three years I've been involved with these cars I can only remember one 67 2000 coming close to the appraisal listed below and that was at a loss to the owner (40K invested). We've become a community of Walmart owner's and sellers. ________________________________ From: Linda J To: "chalsted at comcast.net" Cc: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" Sent: Wed, January 9, 2013 7:13:21 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] NADA roadster values High appraisals are good for their book sales it seems. Linda Sent from my iPod On Jan 9, 2013, at 6:56 AM, chalsted at comcast.net wrote: > just got my latest NADA Classic, Collectible, Exotic and Muscle Car Appraisal Guide and Directory (whew!) thought I'd share what they have for roadster values...all will be the listed high book. > > > 1500 > 63 $18,900 > 64 $17,200 > 65 $16,300 > > > 1600 > 66 $21,600 > 67 $20,900 > 68 $20,300 > 69 $19,500 > 70 $19,100 > > > 2000 > 67 $36,300 > 68 $26,300 > 69 $25,800 > 70 $25,400 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/anwhiteford at att.net From ljordan704 at netscape.net Wed Jan 9 10:10:30 2013 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 09:10:30 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] NADA roadster values In-Reply-To: <1357750443.34105.YahooMailRC@web181605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <364407616.1504421.1357743392872.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1357750443.34105.YahooMailRC@web181605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7B97C55B-BEC3-4FEF-BFF1-09BDB7513A2A@netscape.net> Yes I was going to say that it would be interesting to see the investment on any of the high sale cars. That's not the way to make money, it's parting a car out.....the brutal truth. IMHO Linda Sent from my iPod On Jan 9, 2013, at 8:54 AM, Andrew Whiteford wrote: > Unfortunately when it comes to Roadster values, we've seen the enemy and us. In the three years I've been involved with these cars I can only remember one 67 2000 coming close to the appraisal listed below and that was at a loss to the owner (40K invested). We've become a community of Walmart owner's and sellers. > > From: Linda J > To: "chalsted at comcast.net" > Cc: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" > Sent: Wed, January 9, 2013 7:13:21 AM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] NADA roadster values > > High appraisals are good for their book sales it seems. > Linda > > Sent from my iPod > > On Jan 9, 2013, at 6:56 AM, chalsted at comcast.net wrote: > > > just got my latest NADA Classic, Collectible, Exotic and Muscle Car > Appraisal Guide and Directory (whew!) thought I'd share what they have for > roadster values...all will be the listed high book. > > > > > > 1500 > > 63 $18,900 > > 64 $17,200 > > 65 $16,300 > > > > > > 1600 > > 66 $21,600 > > 67 $20,900 > > 68 $20,300 > > 69 $19,500 > > 70 $19,100 > > > > > > 2000 > > 67 $36,300 > > 68 $26,300 > > 69 $25,800 > > 70 $25,400 > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne > t > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/anwhiteford at att.net From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Wed Jan 9 10:20:58 2013 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 17:20:58 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters Message-ID: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F660217F4D8@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> Much like Woodstock attendance, I believe of the (1500) 67.5 2L cars, only (2250) remain. Of (400) 3 seater 1500's, only 6 remain due to drum brake learning curve. 52% of 1970 SPL's have been mounted on Jeep frames. (insert banjo/bluegrass music excerpt here) From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com Wed Jan 9 10:28:05 2013 From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 12:28:05 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters In-Reply-To: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F660217F4D8@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> References: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F660217F4D8@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> Message-ID: Can't argue with the 1600 & 2000 counts, but I know where there are two 3 seat 1500 here in Ohio. One is drivable, although the owner is in Florida for the winter and isn't online. The other is a one owner roadster, waiting to be restored. It is complete, but the motor is frozen from sitting since 1976. There have to be a few more out there. (I hope) Paul Ohio On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 12:20 PM, O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS) < Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com> wrote: > Much like Woodstock attendance, I believe of the (1500) 67.5 2L cars, only > (2250) remain. > > Of (400) 3 seater 1500's, only 6 remain due to drum brake learning curve. > > 52% of 1970 SPL's have been mounted on Jeep frames. (insert > banjo/bluegrass > music excerpt here) > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com From tommy at dcwisp.net Wed Jan 9 11:07:34 2013 From: tommy at dcwisp.net (Thomas Thompson) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 10:07:34 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters In-Reply-To: References: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F660217F4D8@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> Message-ID: <8D51ED44FE8A4D27AA646F9F26C16B64@ThompsonPC> Of course there are. I can think of four 1500 three seaters that have been to our annual Mount Shasta Datsun Roadster meet in the past 10-15 years (all were drivers, and two were driven there). We had 80+ roadsters (all years) there for the 10th annual meet in 1994, and I would bet that every car that was at that meet still runs. The annual Mount Shasta and Solvang meets still attract many cars from the western states. British Columbia, Washington, Oregon (where I live), and California alone probably have several hundred running roadsters. I have continously owned a '70 since buying the first of four in '71, and two of those four are still on the road. Considering the prices listed on another post, I would not sell my '70 2L (owned since '76, solex's/frame off restoration in '88) for less than $20K. There are 7 or 8 roadsters in my small town alone (Roseburg, population 21,000), including a beautiful 1500 three seater! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Kort" To: "O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters > Can't argue with the 1600 & 2000 counts, but I know where there are two 3 > seat 1500 here in Ohio. One is drivable, although the owner is in Florida > for the winter and isn't online. The other is a one owner roadster, > waiting to be restored. It is complete, but the motor is frozen from > sitting since 1976. There have to be a few more out there. (I hope) > > Paul > Ohio > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 12:20 PM, O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS) < > Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com> wrote: > >> Much like Woodstock attendance, I believe of the (1500) 67.5 2L cars, >> only >> (2250) remain. >> >> Of (400) 3 seater 1500's, only 6 remain due to drum brake learning curve. >> >> 52% of 1970 SPL's have been mounted on Jeep frames. (insert >> banjo/bluegrass >> music excerpt here) >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tommy at dcwisp.net From hrhaslett at yahoo.com Wed Jan 9 17:31:49 2013 From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 16:31:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues final follow up Message-ID: <1357777909.59718.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> All is good now New carb and manifold gaskets. Proper carb balance, Proper dwell setting, Proper valve clearance, Proper timing. Took it out for a good roadtest and car runs fantastic, better than it has in a long time. Thanks to everyone for your suggestions and help. Roy From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Wed Jan 9 19:39:23 2013 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 18:39:23 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters In-Reply-To: References: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F660217F4D8@XMBC3087.northgrum.com>, Message-ID: There's a ratty yellow one (310) parked on Vanowen (San Fernando Valley) - he wanted $4.5K - if the engine compartment looks like the interior - euch Peter Harrison 818 448 3181 > Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 12:28:05 -0500 > From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com > To: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com > CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters > > Can't argue with the 1600 & 2000 counts, but I know where there are two 3 > seat 1500 here in Ohio. One is drivable, although the owner is in Florida > for the winter and isn't online. The other is a one owner roadster, > waiting to be restored. It is complete, but the motor is frozen from > sitting since 1976. There have to be a few more out there. (I hope) > > Paul > Ohio > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 12:20 PM, O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS) < > Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com> wrote: > > > Much like Woodstock attendance, I believe of the (1500) 67.5 2L cars, only > > (2250) remain. > > > > Of (400) 3 seater 1500's, only 6 remain due to drum brake learning curve. > > > > 52% of 1970 SPL's have been mounted on Jeep frames. (insert > > banjo/bluegrass > > music excerpt here) > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/paulsdatsunstuff at gmail .com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/granvillecomputing at hot mail.com From stephen.holst at randrglobal.com Thu Jan 10 09:42:03 2013 From: stephen.holst at randrglobal.com (Stephen Holst) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 11:42:03 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Question : NPG as coolant Message-ID: HI: There has been discussion in other older car forums about the use of NPG (Evans waterless coolant for example) but I haven't been able to find similar discussions that directly relate to Datsun Roadsters and specifically about the 2000. Where the differential expansion of the aluminum head and cast iron block might be at issue. My calculations indicate in the worst case (due to reduced heat capacity of propylene glycol) that a marginally cooled (two row radiator) might run at an increased temperature approaching 190-200 degrees. The temperature is well below the breakdown temperature for normal oil (air cooled Porsche's run at 280 degrees) and synthetic oils are stable to temperatures of at least 270 degrees). So the question is has any one used NPG in our cars. This Question is especially tailored to the racing community where high engine stress and concerns over local micro cavitations(heat generated) might have pushed a trial. Then maybe you are all using it and I have come late to the party. I have asked the question in my local group and they don't have any info. Thanks for the review of this and any answers/speculations you can offer. Regards Steve SRL-311 04711 From hrhaslett at yahoo.com Thu Jan 10 13:25:00 2013 From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:25:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Question : NPG as coolant In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1357849500.84871.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I don't know what NPG is but I do not run anti freeze in my 1600. I run a coolant additive that makes water "wetter" and is anti corrosion. One 16 oz bottle and the rest water. I also run a champion 2 row aluminum radiator. Car runs at 160 degrees in all weather. Roy ________________________________ From: Stephen Holst To: 'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net' Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 8:42 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Question : NPG as coolant HI: There has been discussion in other older car forums about the use of NPG (Evans waterless coolant for example) but I haven't been able to find similar discussions that directly relate to Datsun Roadsters and specifically about the 2000. Where the differential expansion of the aluminum head and cast iron block might be at issue. My calculations indicate in the worst case (due to reduced heat capacity of propylene glycol) that a marginally cooled (two row radiator) might run at an increased temperature approaching 190-200 degrees. The temperature is well below the breakdown temperature for normal oil (air cooled Porsche's run at 280 degrees) and synthetic oils are stable to temperatures of at least 270 degrees). So the question is has any one used NPG in our cars. This Question is especially tailored to the racing community where high engine stress and concerns over local micro cavitations(heat generated) might have pushed a trial. Then maybe you are all using it and I have come late to the party. I have asked the question in my local group and they don't have any info. Thanks for the review of this and any answers/speculations you can offer. Regards Steve SRL-311 04711 ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/hrhaslett at yahoo.com From roadster at astound.net Thu Jan 10 15:07:54 2013 From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:07:54 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Number of Roadster survivors? In-Reply-To: <1357679625.35017.YahooMailClassic@web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1357679625.35017.YahooMailClassic@web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8EDB740D-BE37-48B5-86D4-F96424C640C7@astound.net> The question should be, how many still run? (And not "It was running the last time I used it" which could have been 20 years ago.) Fred - SSF, CA On Jan 8, 2013, at 1:13 PM, Gary McCormick wrote: > Anyone, anywhere, have ballpark figures on how many Datsun Roadsters are still in existence? > > Gary McCormick > 1970 2000, SRL311-13291 > Not driving, but still here (maybe /this/ summer...) > ________________________________________ From sewebberlaw at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 18:01:05 2013 From: sewebberlaw at gmail.com (Stephen Webber) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:01:05 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters In-Reply-To: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F660217F4D8@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> References: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F660217F4D8@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> Message-ID: I'm sitting here in Glendale, California with a running 1963 1500 3 seat SPL 310 that my sister bought new and I have owned since 1967. By the way, it needs tires, 165 SR 13's are on it now. I posted an inquiry a few weeks ago about getting flashier rums, but learned from Les at Classic Datsun in Vista, CA that such rims are unavailable for these early roadsters. I checked with one tire store and they could not even special order this size of tires for the stock rims. Any suggestions where they can be obtained? Stephen Webber On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:20 AM, O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS) < Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com> wrote: > Much like Woodstock attendance, I believe of the (1500) 67.5 2L cars, only > (2250) remain. > > Of (400) 3 seater 1500's, only 6 remain due to drum brake learning curve. > > 52% of 1970 SPL's have been mounted on Jeep frames. (insert > banjo/bluegrass > music excerpt here) > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/sewebberlaw at gmail.com From graemes at internode.on.net Thu Jan 10 18:17:13 2013 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 11:47:13 +1030 Subject: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters - tyres. In-Reply-To: References: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F660217F4D8@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> Message-ID: <50EF6819.1060806@internode.on.net> Coker tyres? http://www.cokertire.com/ Regards, Graeme Suckling http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia. On 11/01/2013 11:31 AM, Stephen Webber wrote: > I'm sitting here in Glendale, California with a running 1963 1500 3 seat > SPL 310 that my sister bought new and I have owned since 1967. > > By the way, it needs tires, 165 SR 13's are on it now. I posted an inquiry > a few weeks ago about getting flashier rums, but learned from Les at > Classic Datsun in Vista, CA that such rims are unavailable for these early > roadsters. I checked with one tire store and they could not even special > order this size of tires for the stock rims. > > Any suggestions where they can be obtained? > > Stephen Webber > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:20 AM, O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS) < > Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com> wrote: From greg at bciitv.com Thu Jan 10 18:18:06 2013 From: greg at bciitv.com (Greg Glass) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:18:06 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters - tyres. - Email contains a url listed on "multi.surbl.org" In-Reply-To: <50EF6819.1060806@internode.on.net> References: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F660217F4D8@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> <50EF6819.1060806@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <9A9A31435677CB4CB9D69FFA85B0E5D165062EFE5D@bciexchange.bciitv.local> Corky Coker is very knowledgeable about Datsun Roadsters. He will be able to help you. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Graeme Suckling Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 5:17 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters - tyres. - Email contains a url listed on "multi.surbl.org" Coker tyres? http://www.cokertire.com/ Regards, Graeme Suckling http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia. On 11/01/2013 11:31 AM, Stephen Webber wrote: > I'm sitting here in Glendale, California with a running 1963 1500 3 > seat SPL 310 that my sister bought new and I have owned since 1967. > > By the way, it needs tires, 165 SR 13's are on it now. I posted an > inquiry a few weeks ago about getting flashier rums, but learned from > Les at Classic Datsun in Vista, CA that such rims are unavailable for > these early roadsters. I checked with one tire store and they could > not even special order this size of tires for the stock rims. > > Any suggestions where they can be obtained? > > Stephen Webber > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:20 AM, O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS) < > Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com> wrote: ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/greg at bciitv.com From mark at bradakis.com Thu Jan 10 18:20:53 2013 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:20:53 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters In-Reply-To: References: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F660217F4D8@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> Message-ID: <50EF68F5.1070506@bradakis.com> In case anyone is curious, there are 492 folks on this list. mjb. From tputland at charter.net Thu Jan 10 19:34:38 2013 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 21:34:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters Message-ID: <568aae6e.321872.13c277583ff.Webtop.47@charter.net> Welll....I've got 3.5 Roadsters...all high windscreen (sorry)..... which makes me think (a bad idea I know) that there are a few Roadsters left out there. tim On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > In case anyone is curious, there are 492 folks on this list. > > mjb. > ________________________________________ From sumton at sbcglobal.net Thu Jan 10 21:14:17 2013 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (dave n) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:14:17 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters In-Reply-To: <50EF68F5.1070506@bradakis.com> References: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F660217F4D8@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> <50EF68F5.1070506@bradakis.com> Message-ID: which means there are far more than 492 roadsters on this list. I'm probably one of the very few that has only one! -----Original Message----- From: Mark J Bradakis Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 7:20 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters In case anyone is curious, there are 492 folks on this list. mjb. From rtdengr at charter.net Thu Jan 10 22:07:03 2013 From: rtdengr at charter.net (Bob Dicke) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:07:03 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters In-Reply-To: <568aae6e.321872.13c277583ff.Webtop.47@charter.net> References: <568aae6e.321872.13c277583ff.Webtop.47@charter.net> Message-ID: <000901cdefb9$7ec54c60$7c4fe520$@charter.net> Well, depending on what you call a "car" I have about 20 of them. Tim - next summer we have to get serious about sorting out all those parts, now that I'm finally retired. Bob -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 8:35 PM To: Mark J Bradakis Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters Welll....I've got 3.5 Roadsters...all high windscreen (sorry)..... which makes me think (a bad idea I know) that there are a few Roadsters left out there. tim On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > In case anyone is curious, there are 492 folks on this list. > > mjb. > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rtdengr at charter.net From mauertr at grics.net Fri Jan 11 03:42:00 2013 From: mauertr at grics.net (terry mauer) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 04:42:00 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] one more for the list Message-ID: 1966 right hand drive From reefpix at gmail.com Fri Jan 11 06:29:49 2013 From: reefpix at gmail.com (James Wiseman) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 07:29:49 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] 13" Tires for the 1500 Message-ID: I have a '64 3-seater and recently bought some new 13" tires. They are Milestar 155 80R13 with a small whitewall. You can see some photos here: http://311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17586&p=152062&hilit=bought+1500#p152062 Kumho makes a tire called Solus KR21 in the same size. Hope that helps, James Houston TX From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Fri Jan 11 07:11:49 2013 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 14:11:49 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] EXT :Re: remaining roadsters In-Reply-To: References: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F660217F4D8@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> Message-ID: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F660218AFB0@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> Lots on tire rack for 175/13's. I can't seem to recreate the list, but all the 165 choices said "trailer service tires" on them. 14's and a bit lower profile (like 60 series) will leave the speedo the same and make the tire choices a lot easier. My speedo bounces around like a freakin EKG readout, so accuracy isn't one of my big concerns. (now odometer is 10-15% off, which makes backroads rallies a challenge because I am constantly having to write down my "compensation factor", then = way thru I just give up and pick a car/friend going at my pace, and enjoy the ride) Happy roadstering, Fergus O From: Stephen Webber [mailto:sewebberlaw at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 5:01 PM To: O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS) Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: EXT :Re: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters I'm sitting here in Glendale, California with a running 1963 1500 3 seat SPL 310 that my sister bought new and I have owned since 1967. By the way, it needs tires, 165 SR 13's are on it now. I posted an inquiry a few weeks ago about getting flashier rums, but learned from Les at Classic Datsun in Vista, CA that such rims are unavailable for these early roadsters. I checked with one tire store and they could not even special order this size of tires for the stock rims. Any suggestions where they can be obtained? Stephen Webber On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:20 AM, O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS) > wrote: Much like Woodstock attendance, I believe of the (1500) 67.5 2L cars, only (2250) remain. Of (400) 3 seater 1500's, only 6 remain due to drum brake learning curve. 52% of 1970 SPL's have been mounted on Jeep frames. (insert banjo/bluegrass music excerpt here) ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/sewebberlaw at gmail.com From roadster at astound.net Fri Jan 11 14:53:36 2013 From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 13:53:36 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters In-Reply-To: <568aae6e.321872.13c277583ff.Webtop.47@charter.net> References: <568aae6e.321872.13c277583ff.Webtop.47@charter.net> Message-ID: <5A562307-EDFB-4FD7-AB98-98E56E04DF80@astound.net> I also have 3-1/2 roadsters. But only one is in great shape and gets around (1966). That's why I mentioned the question should be how many are driveable. One I last drove 25 years ago to get it to my new house, after sitting idle 7 years (1968 2L unused 32 years and now mainly parts in boxes). Another (1970 1600) has body rot and I'm replacing body panels (runs but the rear body is off). The 1/2 is just that, a donor of body parts, half of them gone. So of 3-1/2, I would truthfully say one remains, the others are iffy and are potential junk. Fred - SSF, CA On Jan 10, 2013, at 6:34 PM, Tim wrote: > Welll....I've got 3.5 Roadsters...all high windscreen (sorry)..... which makes me think (a bad idea I know) that there are a few Roadsters left out there. > > tim > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > >> In case anyone is curious, there are 492 folks on this list. >> >> mjb. >> ________________________________________ From gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com Fri Jan 11 15:19:55 2013 From: gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com (Gordon Maness) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:19:55 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters In-Reply-To: <5A562307-EDFB-4FD7-AB98-98E56E04DF80@astound.net> References: <568aae6e.321872.13c277583ff.Webtop.47@charter.net>, <5A562307-EDFB-4FD7-AB98-98E56E04DF80@astound.net> Message-ID: Okay the confessions are catching.I've 17+, titles for most. Only one is destined to be a donor, I had a short conversation with Bambi's mother. Most are 2000, there are 3 1600's plus two more 2L engines and 3,4 transmissions and unknown numbers of boxes.Oh, one of the 1600's has a Buick 215 stuffed in. g > From: roadster at astound.net > Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 13:53:36 -0800 > To: tputland at charter.net > CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters > > I also have 3-1/2 roadsters. But only one is in great shape and gets around > (1966). That's why I mentioned the question should be how many are driveable. > One I last drove 25 years ago to get it to my new house, after sitting idle 7 > years (1968 2L unused 32 years and now mainly parts in boxes). Another (1970 > 1600) has body rot and I'm replacing body panels (runs but the rear body is > off). The 1/2 is just that, a donor of body parts, half of them gone. So of > 3-1/2, I would truthfully say one remains, the others are iffy and are > potential junk. > > Fred - SSF, CA > > On Jan 10, 2013, at 6:34 PM, Tim wrote: > > > Welll....I've got 3.5 Roadsters...all high windscreen (sorry)..... which > makes me think (a bad idea I know) that there are a few Roadsters left out > there. > > > > tim > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > > > >> In case anyone is curious, there are 492 folks on this list. > >> > >> mjb. > >> ________________________________________ > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gordon.e.maness at hotmai l.com From chalsted at comcast.net Fri Jan 11 16:30:34 2013 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 23:30:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1974806154.1591258.1357947034747.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> last count I'm down to 37 and a LOT of parts... does it count if it's in 2 pieces? maybe 36 ;-) don't ask how many are driveable! Craig From roadster68 at shaw.ca Fri Jan 11 16:59:28 2013 From: roadster68 at shaw.ca (Larry Dziuba) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:59:28 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] NADA roadster values References: <364407616.1504421.1357743392872.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1357750443.34105.YahooMailRC@web181605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hey, let's not beat our beloved car. The higher the better. You know how much work, time and parts it takes to restore any vehicle. And I think the Datsun roadster should rank higher that a lot of others out there. If it is ever stolen or burns up, then I want get the best value from my insurance policy. Larry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Whiteford" To: "Linda J" ; Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] NADA roadster values > Unfortunately when it comes to Roadster values, we've seen the enemy and > us. > In > the three years I've been involved with these cars I can > only remember one 67 > 2000 coming close to the appraisal listed below and that > was at a loss to the > owner (40K invested). We've become a community > of Walmart owner's and sellers. > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: > Linda J > To: "chalsted at comcast.net" > > Cc: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" > > Sent: Wed, January 9, 2013 7:13:21 AM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] NADA roadster values > > High appraisals are good for > their book sales it seems. > Linda > > Sent from my iPod > > On Jan 9, 2013, at 6:56 > AM, chalsted at comcast.net wrote: > >> just got my latest NADA Classic, > Collectible, Exotic and Muscle Car > Appraisal Guide and Directory (whew!) > thought I'd share what they have for > roadster values...all will be the listed > high book. >> >> >> 1500 >> 63 $18,900 >> 64 $17,200 >> 65 $16,300 >> >> >> 1600 >> 66 > $21,600 >> 67 $20,900 >> 68 $20,300 >> 69 $19,500 >> 70 $19,100 >> >> >> 2000 >> 67 > $36,300 >> 68 $26,300 >> 69 $25,800 >> 70 $25,400 >> > ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne > t > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/anwhiteford at att.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadster68 at shaw.ca From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com Fri Jan 11 17:04:54 2013 From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:04:54 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] NADA roadster values In-Reply-To: References: <364407616.1504421.1357743392872.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1357750443.34105.YahooMailRC@web181605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: As I see it, the only time higher pricing helps is when/if you are selling. And that may not actually help at all. Hard enough to sell one cheap. If they were priced equal to say a TR6, more folks would turn to the Triumph instead of an old car without much support. As for buying/owning/ maintaining, higher prices just makes it harder to keep them on the road. just MHO, Paul Ohio On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Larry Dziuba wrote: > Hey, let's not beat our beloved car. The higher the better. You know how > much work, time and parts it takes to restore any vehicle. And I think the > Datsun roadster should rank higher that a lot of others out there. If it > is ever stolen or burns up, then I want get the best value from my > insurance policy. Larry. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Whiteford" > > To: "Linda J" ; > Cc: > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 9:54 AM > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] NADA roadster values > > > Unfortunately when it comes to Roadster values, we've seen the enemy and >> us. >> In >> the three years I've been involved with these cars I can >> only remember one 67 >> 2000 coming close to the appraisal listed below and that >> was at a loss to the >> owner (40K invested). We've become a community >> of Walmart owner's and sellers. >> >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________**__ >> From: >> Linda J >> To: "chalsted at comcast.net" >> >> Cc: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net " >> > >> Sent: Wed, January 9, 2013 7:13:21 AM >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] NADA roadster values >> >> High appraisals are good for >> their book sales it seems. >> Linda >> >> Sent from my iPod >> >> On Jan 9, 2013, at 6:56 >> AM, chalsted at comcast.net wrote: >> >> just got my latest NADA Classic, >>> >> Collectible, Exotic and Muscle Car >> Appraisal Guide and Directory (whew!) >> thought I'd share what they have for >> roadster values...all will be the listed >> high book. >> >>> >>> >>> 1500 >>> 63 $18,900 >>> 64 $17,200 >>> 65 $16,300 >>> >>> >>> 1600 >>> 66 >>> >> $21,600 >> >>> 67 $20,900 >>> 68 $20,300 >>> 69 $19,500 >>> 70 $19,100 >>> >>> >>> 2000 >>> 67 >>> >> $36,300 >> >>> 68 $26,300 >>> 69 $25,800 >>> 70 $25,400 >>> >>> ______________________________**__________ >> >>> >>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >>> Archive: >>> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> >>> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/datsun-roadsters/** >> ljordan704 at netscape.ne >> t >> ______________________________**__________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/datsun-roadsters/** >> anwhiteford at att.net >> ______________________________**__________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/datsun-roadsters/** >> roadster68 at shaw.ca >> > ______________________________**__________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/datsun-roadsters/** > paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com From ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com Fri Jan 11 17:12:44 2013 From: ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com (Stan Wilkins) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:12:44 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters In-Reply-To: <1974806154.1591258.1357947034747.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1974806154.1591258.1357947034747.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: How many are driveable. Come on, I couldn't resist. Stan in Flagstaff where the wind chill factor is 14. I hate snow. On 1/11/2013 4:30 PM, chalsted at comcast.net wrote: > last count I'm down to 37 and a LOT of parts... does it count if it's in 2 pieces? maybe 36 ;-) don't ask how many are driveable! > Craig > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com From roadster68 at shaw.ca Fri Jan 11 17:53:30 2013 From: roadster68 at shaw.ca (Larry Dziuba) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:53:30 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] NADA roadster values References: <364407616.1504421.1357743392872.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><1357750443.34105.YahooMailRC@web181605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <474675190E044CEAA7FAB094B0B7B283@useravjfzd6udp> I just think that if there are fewer, then they should be more valuable that any other vehicle that still exists in mass quantities like MG's. Larry. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Kort To: Larry Dziuba Cc: Andrew Whiteford ; Linda J ; chalsted at comcast.net ; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] NADA roadster values As I see it, the only time higher pricing helps is when/if you are selling. And that may not actually help at all. Hard enough to sell one cheap. If they were priced equal to say a TR6, more folks would turn to the Triumph instead of an old car without much support. As for buying/owning/ maintaining, higher prices just makes it harder to keep them on the road. just MHO, Paul Ohio On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Larry Dziuba wrote: Hey, let's not beat our beloved car. The higher the better. You know how much work, time and parts it takes to restore any vehicle. And I think the Datsun roadster should rank higher that a lot of others out there. If it is ever stolen or burns up, then I want get the best value from my insurance policy. Larry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Whiteford" To: "Linda J" ; Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] NADA roadster values Unfortunately when it comes to Roadster values, we've seen the enemy and us. In the three years I've been involved with these cars I can only remember one 67 2000 coming close to the appraisal listed below and that was at a loss to the owner (40K invested). We've become a community of Walmart owner's and sellers. ________________________________ From: Linda J To: "chalsted at comcast.net" Cc: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" Sent: Wed, January 9, 2013 7:13:21 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] NADA roadster values High appraisals are good for their book sales it seems. Linda Sent from my iPod On Jan 9, 2013, at 6:56 AM, chalsted at comcast.net wrote: just got my latest NADA Classic, Collectible, Exotic and Muscle Car Appraisal Guide and Directory (whew!) thought I'd share what they have for roadster values...all will be the listed high book. 1500 63 $18,900 64 $17,200 65 $16,300 1600 66 $21,600 67 $20,900 68 $20,300 69 $19,500 70 $19,100 2000 67 $36,300 68 $26,300 69 $25,800 70 $25,400 ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netsc ape.ne t ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/anwhiteford at att. net ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadster68 at shaw.ca ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/paulsdatsunstuff at gmail .com From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Thu Jan 10 19:11:08 2013 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:11:08 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Number of Roadster survivors? In-Reply-To: <8EDB740D-BE37-48B5-86D4-F96424C640C7@astound.net> References: <1357679625.35017.YahooMailClassic@web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8EDB740D-BE37-48B5-86D4-F96424C640C7@astound.net> Message-ID: <50EF74BC.4050308@sbcglobal.net> I was considering complete but garage-bound (like my '70 2000) as eligible for the "survivor" count. Running, daily-driver, etc., would be sub-categories. On 1/10/13 2:07 PM, Fred Katz wrote: > The question should be, how many still run? (And not "It was running the last time I used it" which could have been 20 years ago.) > > Fred - SSF, CA > > On Jan 8, 2013, at 1:13 PM, Gary McCormick wrote: > >> Anyone, anywhere, have ballpark figures on how many Datsun Roadsters are still in existence? >> >> Gary McCormick >> 1970 2000, SRL311-13291 >> Not driving, but still here (maybe /this/ summer...) >> ________________________________________ From vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com Fri Jan 11 19:19:04 2013 From: vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com (Vince Strazzabosco) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:19:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1357957144.91614.YahooMailClassic@web160805.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> For what it's worth, I still own a 1966 1600; very complete, but rust/corrosion in some areas. I had it running a few years ago, then I moved, and luckily, it sits in my garage on refinished wheels and good tires, but needs clutch and brake hydraulics rebuilt. Maybe this summer if all goes well.... But it's out of the weather. vince Big Rock, IL From sales at rslaserkits.com Fri Jan 11 19:53:47 2013 From: sales at rslaserkits.com (Richard Shepard) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:53:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters In-Reply-To: <1357957144.91614.YahooMailClassic@web160805.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1357957144.91614.YahooMailClassic@web160805.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1357959227.18475.YahooMailNeo@web140804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Have 2 running and driving 68's here. One stock 1600 other KA 2400 and know of at least 8 with in 10 miles of me. rich ________________________________ From: Vince Strazzabosco To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters For what it's worth, I still own a 1966 1600; very complete, but rust/corrosion in some areas. I had it running a few years ago, then I moved, and luckily, it sits in my garage on refinished wheels and good tires, but needs clutch and brake hydraulics rebuilt. Maybe this summer if all goes well.... But it's out of the weather. vince Big Rock, IL ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/yenko_stinger65 at yahoo. com From phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov Fri Jan 11 20:04:48 2013 From: phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ES11)) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 21:04:48 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters - and back on the Road! In-Reply-To: <1357957144.91614.YahooMailClassic@web160805.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hey Vince - Lets turn this thread into a "lets get it done" to get our Roadsters back on the road!! I need to get motivated myself to I can drive mine more. A good friend and awesome Roadster owner stayed with us for 3 days as he did his business stuff. 3 days of talking Roadster really got me cranked up. We all need this at times - life is soooo dang busy! So, let get busy and start sliding corners - like Roadster are built to do!! Phil Be SEROC'n On 1/11/13 8:19 PM, "Vince Strazzabosco" wrote: > For what it's worth, I still own a 1966 1600; very complete, but > rust/corrosion in some areas. I had it running a few years ago, then I moved, > and luckily, it sits in my garage on refinished wheels and good tires, but > needs clutch and brake hydraulics rebuilt. Maybe this summer if all goes > well.... But it's out of the weather. > > vince > Big Rock, IL > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/phillip.b.hall at msfc.na s > a.gov From phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov Fri Jan 11 20:09:21 2013 From: phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ES11)) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 21:09:21 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters In-Reply-To: <1357959227.18475.YahooMailNeo@web140804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hey Rich - what is your location. In Huntsville Al, there are 4 now - drivable. Roger moved to NC and took 3 running Roadsters with him so from 7 to 4 in one day. On 1/11/13 8:53 PM, "Richard Shepard" wrote: > Have 2 running and driving 68's here. One stock 1600 other KA 2400 > and know > of at least 8 with in 10 miles of me. > rich > > > ________________________________ > From: Vince Strazzabosco > To: > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 6:19 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters > > For what it's worth, I still > own a 1966 1600; very complete, but rust/corrosion in some areas. I had it > running a few years ago, then I moved, and luckily, it sits in my garage on > refinished wheels and good tires, but needs clutch and brake hydraulics > rebuilt. Maybe this summer if all goes well.... But it's out of the weather. > vince > Big Rock, IL > ________________________________________ > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/yenko_stinger65 at yahoo. > com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/phillip.b.hall at msfc.na s > a.gov From etroxel at gmail.com Fri Jan 11 20:34:39 2013 From: etroxel at gmail.com (Evan Troxel) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:34:39 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters In-Reply-To: <1357959227.18475.YahooMailNeo@web140804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1357957144.91614.YahooMailClassic@web160805.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1357959227.18475.YahooMailNeo@web140804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: We have a 68 1600, 69 2000, and a 67 2000 in California. Mostly "running". :) -Evan On Jan 11, 2013, at 6:53 PM, Richard Shepard wrote: > Have 2 running and driving 68's here. One stock 1600 other KA 2400 > and know > of at least 8 with in 10 miles of me. > rich > > > ________________________________ > From: Vince Strazzabosco > To: > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 6:19 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters > > For what it's worth, I still > own a 1966 1600; very complete, but rust/corrosion in some areas. I had it > running a few years ago, then I moved, and luckily, it sits in my garage on > refinished wheels and good tires, but needs clutch and brake hydraulics > rebuilt. Maybe this summer if all goes well.... But it's out of the weather. > vince > Big Rock, IL > ________________________________________ > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/yenko_stinger65 at yahoo. > com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/etroxel at gmail.com From etroxel at gmail.com Fri Jan 11 20:38:49 2013 From: etroxel at gmail.com (Evan Troxel) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:38:49 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters In-Reply-To: <1357959227.18475.YahooMailNeo@web140804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1357957144.91614.YahooMailClassic@web160805.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1357959227.18475.YahooMailNeo@web140804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6F92706C-E636-4460-A6DD-34FF275261A3@gmail.com> We have a 68 1600, 69 2000, and a 67 2000 in California. All "running". :) -Evan On Jan 11, 2013, at 6:53 PM, Richard Shepard wrote: > Have 2 running and driving 68's here. One stock 1600 other KA 2400 > and know > of at least 8 with in 10 miles of me. > rich > > > ________________________________ > From: Vince Strazzabosco > To: > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 6:19 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters > > For what it's worth, I still > own a 1966 1600; very complete, but rust/corrosion in some areas. I had it > running a few years ago, then I moved, and luckily, it sits in my garage on > refinished wheels and good tires, but needs clutch and brake hydraulics > rebuilt. Maybe this summer if all goes well.... But it's out of the weather. > vince > Big Rock, IL > ________________________________________ > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/yenko_stinger65 at yahoo. > com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/etroxel at gmail.com From roadster at astound.net Sat Jan 12 01:45:51 2013 From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 00:45:51 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] NADA roadster values In-Reply-To: References: <364407616.1504421.1357743392872.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1357750443.34105.YahooMailRC@web181605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8F41F133-D4A8-47F7-BEEC-874ECB1AFA99@astound.net> I agree, higher prices makes it harder to keep on the road. And owners are hesitant to drive them regularly. I'd rather the prices were low so they're more carefree to use (and not worry so much about theft or failure). Most of us drive them to enjoy the ride, not to make an investment. Fred - SSF, CA On Jan 11, 2013, at 4:04 PM, Paul Kort wrote: > As I see it, the only time higher pricing helps is when/if you are > selling. And that may not actually help at all. Hard enough to sell one > cheap. If they were priced equal to say a TR6, more folks would turn to > the Triumph instead of an old car without much support. > As for buying/owning/ maintaining, higher prices just makes it harder to > keep them on the road. > > just MHO, > > Paul > Ohio > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Larry Dziuba wrote: > >> Hey, let's not beat our beloved car. The higher the better. You know how >> much work, time and parts it takes to restore any vehicle. And I think the >> Datsun roadster should rank higher that a lot of others out there. If it >> is ever stolen or burns up, then I want get the best value from my >> insurance policy. Larry. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Whiteford" > To: "Linda J" ; >> Cc: > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 9:54 AM >> >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] NADA roadster values >> >> >> Unfortunately when it comes to Roadster values, we've seen the enemy and >>> us. >>> In >>> the three years I've been involved with these cars I can >>> only remember one 67 >>> 2000 coming close to the appraisal listed below and that >>> was at a loss to the >>> owner (40K invested). We've become a community >>> of Walmart owner's and sellers. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________**__ >>> From: >>> Linda J >>> To: "chalsted at comcast.net" >>> >>> Cc: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net " >>> > >>> Sent: Wed, January 9, 2013 7:13:21 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] NADA roadster values >>> >>> High appraisals are good for >>> their book sales it seems. >>> Linda >>> >>> Sent from my iPod >>> >>> On Jan 9, 2013, at 6:56 >>> AM, chalsted at comcast.net wrote: >>> >>> just got my latest NADA Classic, >>> Collectible, Exotic and Muscle Car >>> Appraisal Guide and Directory (whew!) >>> thought I'd share what they have for >>> roadster values...all will be the listed >>> high book. >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 1500 >>>> 63 $18,900 >>>> 64 $17,200 >>>> 65 $16,300 >>>> >>>> >>>> 1600 >>>> 66 >>> $21,600 >>> >>>> 67 $20,900 >>>> 68 $20,300 >>>> 69 $19,500 >>>> 70 $19,100 >>>> >>>> >>>> 2000 >>>> 67 >>> $36,300 >>> >>>> 68 $26,300 >>>> 69 $25,800 >>>> 70 $25,400 >>>> >>>> ______________________________**__________ From sumton at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 12 06:43:41 2013 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (dave n) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 07:43:41 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters In-Reply-To: References: <1974806154.1591258.1357947034747.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <3A66349FA6574B91A3BC4ABAB2F698EB@Datsun> early 67 1600 in Dallas - driveable! -----Original Message----- From: Stan Wilkins Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 6:12 PM Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters How many are driveable. Come on, I couldn't resist. From gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com Sat Jan 12 12:00:41 2013 From: gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com (Gordon Maness) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:00:41 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters In-Reply-To: <3A66349FA6574B91A3BC4ABAB2F698EB@Datsun> References: <1974806154.1591258.1357947034747.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>, , <3A66349FA6574B91A3BC4ABAB2F698EB@Datsun> Message-ID: Two of mine, three more with less than an hours work. g with a fleet > From: sumton at sbcglobal.net > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 07:43:41 -0600 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters > > early 67 1600 in Dallas - driveable! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stan Wilkins > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 6:12 PM > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters > > How many are driveable. Come on, I couldn't resist. > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gordon.e.maness at hotmai l.com From datsunpartsdotcom at yahoo.com Sat Jan 12 12:22:24 2013 From: datsunpartsdotcom at yahoo.com (DatsunParts.com, Inc.) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 11:22:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] NEW PARTS, COMING SOON & JANUARY SALE ITEMS In-Reply-To: References: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F660217F4D8@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> Message-ID: <1358018544.44197.YahooMailNeo@web125703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> www.datsunparts.com/2635 Door opener stopper rubbers www.datsunparts.com/1290 Early LH & RH Pillar post caps www.datsunparts.com/2632 Economy door rubber set www.datsunparts.com/2536 Super deluxe 5 speed trans gasket kit www.datsunparts.com/2549 Brake drums - Mid to Late Feb. delivery Always something new! Datsunparts.com 818-363-2015 Dean Apostal From chalsted at comcast.net Sat Jan 12 15:35:04 2013 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 22:35:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] is Webshots gone? Message-ID: <1697649935.1609051.1358030104091.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I tried to access my webshots account to put up a bunch of photos of the cars that are part of the "big deal" couldn't log in..tried to reset my password, know I did it correctly, still told me wrong stuff...??? what's the best place for photo hosting these days? thanks, Craig From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sat Jan 12 16:35:56 2013 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 23:35:56 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] is Webshots gone? In-Reply-To: <1697649935.1609051.1358030104091.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1697649935.1609051.1358030104091.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <100342098-1358033757-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-547218093-@b13.c20.bise6.blackberry> I don't think it's gone as Alvin & others use it. I'm also not aware of a "best" place. Folks use Photobucket, Flikr, Imgr (spelling?), SmugMug, and others. Pete Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: chalsted at comcast.net Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 22:35:04 To: Subject: [Roadsters] is Webshots gone? I tried to access my webshots account to put up a bunch of photos of the cars that are part of the "big deal" couldn't log in..tried to reset my password, know I did it correctly, still told me wrong stuff...??? what's the best place for photo hosting these days? thanks, Craig ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net From graemes at internode.on.net Sat Jan 12 17:05:37 2013 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 10:35:37 +1030 Subject: [Roadsters] is Webshots gone? In-Reply-To: <100342098-1358033757-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-547218093-@b13.c20.bise6.blackberry> References: <1697649935.1609051.1358030104091.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <100342098-1358033757-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-547218093-@b13.c20.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <50F1FA51.10502@internode.on.net> OHHHH! yes, it's gone. Well the free version has anyway. Time to find an alternative:-( Regards, Graeme Suckling http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia. On 13/01/2013 10:05 AM, ppeters914 at comcast.net wrote: > I don't think it's gone as Alvin & others use it. > > I'm also not aware of a "best" place. Folks use Photobucket, Flikr, Imgr (spelling?), SmugMug, and others. > > Pete > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: chalsted at comcast.net > Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 22:35:04 > To: > Subject: [Roadsters] is Webshots gone? > > I tried to access my webshots account to put up a bunch of photos of the cars that are part of the "big deal" couldn't log in..tried to reset my password, know I did it correctly, still told me wrong stuff...??? what's the best place for photo hosting these days? > thanks, > Craig > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on.net From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sat Jan 12 17:33:26 2013 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 16:33:26 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] is Webshots gone? In-Reply-To: <1697649935.1609051.1358030104091.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1697649935.1609051.1358030104091.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <71E68240-7FFA-4AAD-BF67-F5CDD131196C@netscape.net> Shutterfly Linda Sent from my iPod On Jan 12, 2013, at 2:35 PM, chalsted at comcast.net wrote: > I tried to access my webshots account to put up a bunch of photos of the cars that are part of the "big deal" couldn't log in..tried to reset my password, know I did it correctly, still told me wrong stuff...??? what's the best place for photo hosting these days? > thanks, > Craig > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From graemes at internode.on.net Sat Jan 12 17:49:36 2013 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 11:19:36 +1030 Subject: [Roadsters] is Webshots gone? In-Reply-To: <71E68240-7FFA-4AAD-BF67-F5CDD131196C@netscape.net> References: <1697649935.1609051.1358030104091.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <71E68240-7FFA-4AAD-BF67-F5CDD131196C@netscape.net> Message-ID: <50F204A0.6020806@internode.on.net> As Linda said. I have been using Shutterfly since Sony Image Station closed years ago. Has a few idiosyncrasies but still a good, FREE host. For example: - http://nissanman.shutterfly.com/ You get to choose your own web site name as above, unless it is already taken of course:-) There are several sites around but I do recommend Shutterfly8-) Regards, Graeme Suckling http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia. On 13/01/2013 11:03 AM, Linda J wrote: > Shutterfly > > Linda > > Sent from my iPod > > On Jan 12, 2013, at 2:35 PM, chalsted at comcast.net wrote: From noji-1 at pacbell.net Sat Jan 12 19:30:12 2013 From: noji-1 at pacbell.net (dana nojima) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:30:12 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters (dave n) Message-ID: <001201cdf135$ea6794f0$bf36bed0$@net> >From: Stan Wilkins >Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 6:12 PM >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters >How many are driveable. Come on, I couldn't resist. Early on I decided not to have a show car, but to have one that was presentable and drivable. I've had my car from 1986 and it has only been non-drivable for a couple of days. I do have installation ready extras of most needed items, like motors, transmissions, heads . . . . so if anything fails, it's a quick swap in. My fear was if I tried to do a body off or something extreme, that I would just end up with boxes of bits that would never get put back together. I haven't been driving the car as much in the last 10 years, so things don't brake as frequently. Dana Dana Nojima noji-1 at pacbell.net 510.219.6474 From jodyfkerr at gmail.com Sat Jan 12 22:49:51 2013 From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 22:49:51 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] is Webshots gone? In-Reply-To: <50F204A0.6020806@internode.on.net> References: <1697649935.1609051.1358030104091.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <71E68240-7FFA-4AAD-BF67-F5CDD131196C@netscape.net> <50F204A0.6020806@internode.on.net> Message-ID: I guess it's time to finally stop lurking. I really like Picasa by Google. Not only do you get the online hosting, but their software is great for organizing and doing simle editing of photos on your desktop. And I don't presently have a roadster, but have been ogling them for quite some time. The wife also quite likes them, so when I get done with the current batch of cars we may start seriously looking for one. Jody On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Graeme Suckling wrote: > As Linda said. > I have been using Shutterfly since Sony Image Station closed years ago. > Has a few idiosyncrasies but still a good, FREE host. > For example: - > http://nissanman.shutterfly.com/ > > You get to choose your own web site name as above, unless it is already > taken of course:-) > There are several sites around but I do recommend Shutterfly8-) > > > Regards, > Graeme Suckling > http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza > Adelaide > South Australia. > > On 13/01/2013 11:03 AM, Linda J wrote: >> >> Shutterfly >> >> Linda >> >> Sent from my iPod >> >> On Jan 12, 2013, at 2:35 PM, chalsted at comcast.net wrote: > > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/jodyfkerr at gmail.com > > -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) 1981 Triumph TR8 1970 MG MGB 1980 Triumph TR7 "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams From chalsted at comcast.net Sun Jan 13 07:43:30 2013 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:43:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] anyone know Hisashi in California old e-mail address is dead In-Reply-To: <1433467879.1616466.1358087398011.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1606332668.1616726.1358088210426.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I'm trying to contact a fellow named Hisashi in California, the e-mail address I have is dead now. was ase at dslextreme.com don't have any other info like last name or a phone number Thanks! Craig From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Mon Jan 14 10:57:21 2013 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:57:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters Message-ID: <1214.5db3d95f.3e25a101@aol.com> I have 3 1500 fairlady's, one showroom, two in restoration need. Two single carb 1500's and one '64. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) / _www.ZRoad.org_ (http://www.zroad.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) FOR SALE 1964 SPL310-01289 1967 SPL311-09144 In a message dated 1/10/2013 9:17:29 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, sumton at sbcglobal.net writes: which means there are far more than 492 roadsters on this list. I'm probably one of the very few that has only one! -----Original Message----- From: Mark J Bradakis Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 7:20 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters In case anyone is curious, there are 492 folks on this list. mjb. ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/barterdude at aol.com Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) / _www.ZRoad.org_ (http://www.zroad.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) FOR SALE 1964 SPL310-01289 1967 SPL311-09144 From fairlady66 at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 20:06:05 2013 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:06:05 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang Message-ID: Alright everyone Registration for the 26th Annual Solvang Datsun Roadster Classic is open! You can now register and pay online or do the old fashion snail mail way and mail it in. There is some new things happening so check us out! Check out the new website at www.solvangroadstershow.com or www.solvangshow.com See you April 26 & 27, 2013! -- If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Datsun, then you are lucky enough. From jayforsell at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 20:21:30 2013 From: jayforsell at gmail.com (Jay Forsell) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:21:30 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters Message-ID: 1968 2000 in restoration srl31104266 1969 2000 parts car srl31109069 James Forsell Burlingame, Ca. From sewebberlaw at gmail.com Tue Jan 15 07:48:05 2013 From: sewebberlaw at gmail.com (Stephen Webber) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:48:05 +0100 Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Message-ID: <50f56c8d.e684980a.5c5e.5a08@mx.google.com> http://www.webcashrolodex.com/ard7ux.php From tputland at charter.net Tue Jan 15 08:06:37 2013 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:06:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] speedo inner cable Message-ID: <282d04fd.39bcd5.13c3ebf6b69.Webtop.43@charter.net> Someone (and I don't remember who nor can I find the emails we exchanged) was looking for the inner part of a speedo cable last year. I finally came across one I knew I had. Are you still looking? tim From edpirl at yahoo.com Wed Jan 16 15:03:45 2013 From: edpirl at yahoo.com (E. Pirl) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:03:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] CARB FLOAT REPAIR QUESTION In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1358373825.43288.YahooMailClassic@web120804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Does anyone know of a good epoxy or super glue (or Liquid Nails, etc..) that can handle gasoline and heat? One of my carb floats on my 68 SRL311 has a crack in it (newer, plastic type float) and I don't have the patience to wait for a new one to arrive a week or so from now via web order. Its just a very small crack and I'm thinking if I use the right type of glue (if there is such a thing), that I should be able to just patch this crack. Its such a small area that I don't think the weight of the glue would harm the flotation. Also, if that doesn't work, does anyone know up to what year of 240Z float is the same as the 68 2000? Maybe I'd have better luck getting one of those locally. I just don't have the patience for parts to arrive in the mail. If u can respond direct to my email, that would be better, I have a hard time logging into this website most of the time. Email to; edpirl at yahoo.com Thanks! Ed Cocoa, Florida --- On Tue, 1/15/13, datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net wrote: From: datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net Subject: Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 5, Issue 17 To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 2:00 PM Send Datsun-roadsters mailing list submissions to datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at datsun-roadsters-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Datsun-roadsters digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Solvang (Chris & Christy Breyer) 2. remaining roadsters (Jay Forsell) 3. Fwd: (Stephen Webber) 4. speedo inner cable (Tim) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:06:05 -0800 From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: Autox-Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Alright everyone Registration for the 26th Annual Solvang Datsun Roadster Classic is open! You can now register and pay online or do the old fashion snail mail way and mail it in. There is some new things happening so check us out! Check out the new website at www.solvangroadstershow.com or www.solvangshow.com See you April 26 & 27, 2013! -- If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Datsun, then you are lucky enough. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:21:30 -0800 From: Jay Forsell To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 1968 2000 in restoration srl31104266 1969 2000 parts car srl31109069 James Forsell Burlingame, Ca. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:48:05 +0100 From: Stephen Webber To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Message-ID: <50f56c8d.e684980a.5c5e.5a08 at mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; http://www.webcashrolodex.com/ard7ux.php ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:06:37 -0500 (EST) From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Subject: [Roadsters] speedo inner cable Message-ID: <282d04fd.39bcd5.13c3ebf6b69.Webtop.43 at charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Someone (and I don't remember who nor can I find the emails we exchanged) was looking for the inner part of a speedo cable last year. I finally came across one I knew I had. Are you still looking? tim ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters mailing list Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters End of Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 5, Issue 17 *********************************************** From mark at bradakis.com Wed Jan 16 15:32:26 2013 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:32:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] CARB FLOAT REPAIR QUESTION In-Reply-To: <1358373825.43288.YahooMailClassic@web120804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1358373825.43288.YahooMailClassic@web120804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <50F72A7A.9090004@bradakis.com> Wonder if the crack could be sealed up with a soldering gun? mjb. From ljordan704 at netscape.net Wed Jan 16 16:34:18 2013 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:34:18 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] CARB FLOAT REPAIR QUESTION In-Reply-To: <50F72A7A.9090004@bradakis.com> References: <1358373825.43288.YahooMailClassic@web120804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <50F72A7A.9090004@bradakis.com> Message-ID: Not if it's plastic. Linda Sent from my iPod On Jan 16, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > Wonder if the crack could be sealed up with a soldering gun? > > mjb. > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From krismon at ongbongan.com Wed Jan 16 17:00:26 2013 From: krismon at ongbongan.com (Krismon Ongbongan) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:00:26 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] CARB FLOAT REPAIR QUESTION In-Reply-To: References: <1358373825.43288.YahooMailClassic@web120804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <50F72A7A.9090004@bradakis.com> Message-ID: JB is gas safe. I've used it in a pinch. http://www.jbweld.com/faqs/ On Jan 16, 2013 3:35 PM, "Linda J" wrote: > Not if it's plastic. > > Linda > > Sent from my iPod > > On Jan 16, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > > > Wonder if the crack could be sealed up with a soldering gun? > > > > mjb. > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne > t > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/krismon at ongbongan.com From graemes at internode.on.net Wed Jan 16 17:03:17 2013 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:33:17 +1030 Subject: [Roadsters] CARB FLOAT REPAIR QUESTION In-Reply-To: References: <1358373825.43288.YahooMailClassic@web120804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <50F72A7A.9090004@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <50F73FC5.8090202@internode.on.net> What can be done is plastic welding using a heat gun or as mentioned, the tip of a soldering iron. Applied carefully it may easily seal the crack and add no further weight to the float. Regards, Graeme Suckling http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia. On 17/01/2013 10:04 AM, Linda J wrote: > Not if it's plastic. > > Linda > > Sent from my iPod > > On Jan 16, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > >> Wonder if the crack could be sealed up with a soldering gun? >> >> mjb. >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne > t > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on.net From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com Wed Jan 16 17:25:59 2013 From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:25:59 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] CARB FLOAT REPAIR QUESTION In-Reply-To: <50F73FC5.8090202@internode.on.net> References: <1358373825.43288.YahooMailClassic@web120804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <50F72A7A.9090004@bradakis.com> <50F73FC5.8090202@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Agreed. Make sure you sand the soldering iron "scar" flush so the float doesn't hang up. Sent from my iPad On Jan 16, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Graeme Suckling wrote: > What can be done is plastic welding using a heat gun or as mentioned, the tip of a soldering iron. > Applied carefully it may easily seal the crack and add no further weight to the float. > > Regards, > Graeme Suckling > http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza > Adelaide > South Australia. > > On 17/01/2013 10:04 AM, Linda J wrote: >> Not if it's plastic. >> >> Linda >> >> Sent from my iPod >> >> On Jan 16, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: >> >>> Wonder if the crack could be sealed up with a soldering gun? >>> >>> mjb. >>> ________________________________________ >>> >>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne >> t >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on.n et > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/jrusso07 at rochester.rr. com From ljordan704 at netscape.net Wed Jan 16 18:12:38 2013 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:12:38 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] CARB FLOAT REPAIR QUESTION In-Reply-To: <50F73FC5.8090202@internode.on.net> References: <1358373825.43288.YahooMailClassic@web120804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <50F72A7A.9090004@bradakis.com> <50F73FC5.8090202@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <8BAE7152-9E89-49E8-B231-5483F539D92D@netscape.net> I never thought you could use a soldering iron on plastic. Guess I was wrong. Hope you het it fixed Linds Sent from my iPod On Jan 16, 2013, at 4:03 PM, Graeme Suckling wrote: > What can be done is plastic welding using a heat gun or as mentioned, the tip of a soldering iron. > Applied carefully it may easily seal the crack and add no further weight to the float. > > Regards, > Graeme Suckling > http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza > Adelaide > South Australia. > > On 17/01/2013 10:04 AM, Linda J wrote: >> Not if it's plastic. >> >> Linda >> >> Sent from my iPod >> >> On Jan 16, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: >> >>> Wonder if the crack could be sealed up with a soldering gun? >>> >>> mjb. >>> ________________________________________ >>> >>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne >> t >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on.n et > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From graemes at internode.on.net Wed Jan 16 18:28:05 2013 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:58:05 +1030 Subject: [Roadsters] CARB FLOAT REPAIR QUESTION In-Reply-To: <8BAE7152-9E89-49E8-B231-5483F539D92D@netscape.net> References: <1358373825.43288.YahooMailClassic@web120804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <50F72A7A.9090004@bradakis.com> <50F73FC5.8090202@internode.on.net> <8BAE7152-9E89-49E8-B231-5483F539D92D@netscape.net> Message-ID: <50F753A5.9090806@internode.on.net> The soldering iron is used as a heat source. Of course the use of "tin/lead solder" as such is not possible, but a small sliver of compatible plastic can be applied as a welding filler. Plastic welding is an art I haven't tried yet, but theoretically, once you identify what type of plastic you have, a heat source and the appropriate filler can be used to repair cracks and such. Regards, Graeme Suckling http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia. On 17/01/2013 11:42 AM, Linda J wrote: > I never thought you could use a soldering iron on plastic. Guess I was wrong. > Hope you het it fixed > > Linds > > Sent from my iPod > > On Jan 16, 2013, at 4:03 PM, Graeme Suckling > wrote: > >> What can be done is plastic welding using a heat gun or as mentioned, the > tip of a soldering iron. >> Applied carefully it may easily seal the crack and add no further weight to > the float. >> Regards, >> Graeme Suckling >> http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza >> Adelaide >> South Australia. >> >> On 17/01/2013 10:04 AM, Linda J wrote: >>> Not if it's plastic. >>> >>> Linda >>> >>> Sent from my iPod >>> >>> On Jan 16, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: >>> >>>> Wonder if the crack could be sealed up with a soldering gun? >>>> >>>> mjb. >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> >>>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne >>> t >>> ________________________________________ >>> >>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on.n > et >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne > t > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on.net From roadster at astound.net Wed Jan 16 18:58:10 2013 From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:58:10 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] CARB FLOAT REPAIR QUESTION In-Reply-To: <1358373825.43288.YahooMailClassic@web120804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1358373825.43288.YahooMailClassic@web120804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I have had great success using a product called Mxbon 105, along with baking soda to repair many plastic products. It's basically super glue, or cryocyanate. You spread a bit of baking soda powder in the crack, and then apply a drop of super glue. It chemically alters the baking soda into becoming a plastic polymer that bonds with your damaged plastic item. After a few seconds, you can sand the new plastic bond smooth. The finished product is a polymer bond far stronger than epoxy or glue. I've had even better results with carbonate of soda. You bake bicarbonate of soda (baking powder) for 30 minutes on a cookie sheet, and it chemically transforms to carbonate of soda (drives out the oxygen). Mxbon 105 is a fast acting super glue. Mxbon 424 is a slower acting super glue to give more time to position the pieces. Fred - So.SF, CA On Jan 16, 2013, at 2:03 PM, "E. Pirl" wrote: > Does anyone know of a good epoxy or super glue (or Liquid Nails, etc..) > that > can handle gasoline and heat? One of my carb floats on my 68 > SRL311 has a > crack in it (newer, plastic type float) and I don't have > the patience to wait > for a new one to arrive a week or so from now via > web order. Its just a very > small crack and I'm thinking if I use the > right type of glue (if there is > such a thing), that I should be able to > just patch this crack. Its such a > small area that I don't think the > weight of the glue would harm the > flotation. Also, if that doesn't work, > does anyone know up to what year of > 240Z float is the same as the 68 > 2000? Maybe I'd have better luck getting > one of those locally. I just > don't have the patience for parts to arrive in > the mail. If u can > respond direct to my email, that would be better, I have > a hard time > logging into this website most of the time. Email to; > edpirl at yahoo.com Thanks! > > Ed > Cocoa, Florida From roadster at astound.net Wed Jan 16 19:40:57 2013 From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:40:57 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] CARB FLOAT REPAIR QUESTION In-Reply-To: References: <1358373825.43288.YahooMailClassic@web120804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <354193BF-C539-4D67-9ED3-07E9D3116FD6@astound.net> cyanoacrylate (sorry!) Fred - On Jan 16, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Fred Katz wrote: > I have had great success using a product called Mxbon 105, along with baking > soda to repair many plastic products. It's basically super glue, or > cryocyanate. > > You spread a bit of baking soda powder in the crack, and then apply a drop of > super glue. It chemically alters the baking soda into becoming a plastic > polymer that bonds with your damaged plastic item. > > After a few seconds, you can sand the new plastic bond smooth. The finished > product is a polymer bond far stronger than epoxy or glue. I've had even > better results with carbonate of soda. You bake bicarbonate of soda (baking > powder) for 30 minutes on a cookie sheet, and it chemically transforms to > carbonate of soda (drives out the oxygen). Mxbon 105 is a fast acting super > glue. Mxbon 424 is a slower acting super glue to give more time to position > the pieces. > > Fred - So.SF, CA From aultgc at att.net Wed Jan 16 23:00:09 2013 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 22:00:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] CARB FLOAT REPAIR QUESTION In-Reply-To: References: <1358373825.43288.YahooMailClassic@web120804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <50F72A7A.9090004@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <1358402409.43353.YahooMailRC@web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> JBWeld, spread very thin over the crack, should work fine, and not add sufficient mass to the float to throw things off. Do replace the float, though. ________________________________ From: Krismon Ongbongan To: Linda J Cc: roadster list Sent: Wed, January 16, 2013 6:00:55 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] CARB FLOAT REPAIR QUESTION JB is gas safe. I've used it in a pinch. http://www.jbweld.com/faqs/ On Jan 16, 2013 3:35 PM, "Linda J" wrote: > Not if it's plastic. > > Linda > > Sent from my iPod > > On Jan 16, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > > > Wonder if the crack could be sealed up with a soldering gun? > > > > mjb. > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne > t > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/krismon at ongbongan.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From stevenehlers at charter.net Thu Jan 17 08:33:33 2013 From: stevenehlers at charter.net (stevenehlers at charter.net) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:33:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 5, Issue 18 Message-ID: <4ef77978.3b24bf.13c4924cbc9.Webtop.43@charter.net> Mr Pirl , First off ,No the 240 Z float is different . It is a hinged on the cover design . Yes ,it can be substituted with proper adjustment ,however . Second off , If you don't like mail ordering parts ,and parts that are not available or local , You Need to Sell this Car !!! My best advice to somebody that thinks driving an over 40 year old car and one of Datsun's/Nissan's hardest to buy replacement parts for . Good Luck ! > Today's Topics: > > 1. CARB FLOAT REPAIR QUESTION (E. Pirl) > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:03:45 -0800 (PST) > From: "E. Pirl" > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] CARB FLOAT REPAIR QUESTION > Message-ID: > <1358373825.43288.YahooMailClassic at web120804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Does anyone know of a good epoxy or super glue (or Liquid Nails, > etc..) that > can handle gasoline and heat? One of my carb floats on my 68 SRL311 > has a > crack in it (newer, plastic type float) and I don't have the patience > to wait > for a new one to arrive a week or so from now via web order. Its just > a very > small crack and I'm thinking if I use the right type of glue (if there > is > such a thing), that I should be able to just patch this crack. Its > such a > small area that I don't think the weight of the glue would harm the > flotation. Also, if that doesn't work, > does anyone know up to what year of > 240Z float is the same as the 68 2000? Maybe I'd have better luck > getting > one of those locally. I just don't have the patience for parts to > arrive in > the mail. If u can respond direct to my email, that would be better, > I have > a hard time logging into this website most of the time. Email to; > edpirl at yahoo.com Thanks! > > Ed > Cocoa, Florida > Of course the use of "tin/lead solder" as such is not possible, but a > small sliver of compatible plastic can be applied as a welding filler. > Plastic welding is an art I haven't tried yet, but theoretically, once > you identify what type of plastic you have, a heat source and the > appropriate filler can be used to repair cracks and such. > > Regards, > Graeme Suckling > http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza > Adelaide > South Australia. From gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com Thu Jan 17 21:31:07 2013 From: gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com (Gordon Maness) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:31:07 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] headlights Message-ID: Has anyone replaced their headlamps with quartz haloagon?I am contemplating doing so using http://www.racinglab.com/sealed-beam-h6024-ns2210.html. I will add a relay to carry the additional current. From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Fri Jan 18 01:40:15 2013 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (Paul Courson) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 03:40:15 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] headlights In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes! Years ago went to Cibie Z-beam and never looked back. The original Toshiba sealed beam units are very long-lived, at the tradeoff of brightness. The Cibie halogen replacements are substantially brighter and have a much better light pattern. Worth doing. On Jan 17, 2013 11:31 PM, "Gordon Maness" wrote: > Has anyone replaced their headlamps with quartz haloagon?I am contemplating > doing so using http://www.racinglab.com/sealed-beam-h6024-ns2210.html. I > will > add a relay to carry the additional current. > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com From futofab at gsinet.net Fri Jan 18 06:51:27 2013 From: futofab at gsinet.net (David Patten) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 08:51:27 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] headlights In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: **Gordon I agree with Paul on the quality of Cibie replacements. I've used them and wow!. Hella is also another brand with excellent quality. I am not familiar with the brand you are looking at,but I would caution on using off brands. You will be impressed with any halogen replacement, but a good quality lens will be even more impressive. Cibie can be bought thru Daniel Sterns Lighting, not cheap, but the end quality is one of the best. There is also a huge volume of lighting tech there too. http://www.danielsternlighting.com/ Also regarding use of relays, pull your power supply off the alternator or the battery connection at the starter with an independant fuse on that line. I'm a 510 guy at heart and that is what I did when rewiring my headlights. Those cars use a switched ground, which makes you think a bit when wiring the relays. -- Dave Patten, Owner FutoFab, LLC 199 Stark Hwy So Dunbarton, NH 03046 Website - www.FutoFab.com e-mail - dave at futofab.com On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Paul Courson wrote: > Yes! Years ago went to Cibie Z-beam and never looked back. > > The original Toshiba sealed beam units are very long-lived, at the tradeoff > of brightness. > > The Cibie halogen replacements are substantially brighter and have a much > better light pattern. > > Worth doing. > On Jan 17, 2013 11:31 PM, "Gordon Maness" > wrote: > > > Has anyone replaced their headlamps with quartz haloagon?I am > contemplating > > doing so using http://www.racinglab.com/sealed-beam-h6024-ns2210.html. I > > will > > add a relay to carry the additional current. > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/futofab at gsinet.net From fred.davidson at diversia.ca Fri Jan 18 06:59:32 2013 From: fred.davidson at diversia.ca (Fred Davidson) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 08:59:32 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] headlights In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000501cdf584$0b13d630$213b8290$@diversia.ca> Hi Gordon: I have had quartz lights in my car for 25+ years. I have two relays (high & low beam) carrying the power directly to the lights. The stock relay is in place and trips the relays for either high or low. This allows power going direct to the lights not all through the electrical system. If you want more details just ask. Fred Davidson Burritts Rapids, Ontario 1969 2000 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Maness Sent: January-17-13 11:31 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] headlights Has anyone replaced their headlamps with quartz haloagon?I am contemplating doing so using http://www.racinglab.com/sealed-beam-h6024-ns2210.html. I will add a relay to carry the additional current. ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/fred.davidson at diversi a.ca From ljordan704 at netscape.net Fri Jan 18 09:21:31 2013 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 08:21:31 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] headlights In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1997607D-B574-482A-B074-E1255F0F018A@netscape.net> Isn't the new thing LED lights? Linda Sent from my iPod On Jan 18, 2013, at 5:51 AM, David Patten wrote: > **Gordon > I agree with Paul on the quality of Cibie replacements. I've used them and > wow!. Hella is also another brand with excellent quality. I am not familiar > with the brand you are looking at,but I would caution on using off brands. > You will be impressed with any halogen replacement, but a good quality lens > will be even more impressive. > > Cibie can be bought thru Daniel Sterns Lighting, not cheap, but the end > quality is one of the best. There is also a huge volume of lighting tech > there too. > http://www.danielsternlighting.com/ > > Also regarding use of relays, pull your power supply off the alternator or > the battery connection at the starter with an independant fuse on that > line. I'm a 510 guy at heart and that is what I did when rewiring my > headlights. Those cars use a switched ground, which makes you think a bit > when wiring the relays. > -- > Dave Patten, Owner > > FutoFab, LLC > 199 Stark Hwy So > Dunbarton, NH 03046 > > Website - www.FutoFab.com > e-mail - dave at futofab.com > > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Paul Courson wrote: > >> Yes! Years ago went to Cibie Z-beam and never looked back. >> >> The original Toshiba sealed beam units are very long-lived, at the tradeoff >> of brightness. >> >> The Cibie halogen replacements are substantially brighter and have a much >> better light pattern. >> >> Worth doing. >> On Jan 17, 2013 11:31 PM, "Gordon Maness" >> wrote: >> >>> Has anyone replaced their headlamps with quartz haloagon?I am >> contemplating >>> doing so using http://www.racinglab.com/sealed-beam-h6024-ns2210.html. I >>> will >>> add a relay to carry the additional current. >>> ________________________________________ >>> >>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/futofab at gsinet.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From ronnie.day at gmail.com Fri Jan 18 09:44:07 2013 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:44:07 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] headlights In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: While direct battery wiring via a relay is the only way to do this, make sure your alternator can handle the additional load, too. Don't remember off the top of my head what the rated output of the OE unit is, but it wasn't much. Maybe 40 or 50 amps at most. Ron On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 7:51 AM, David Patten wrote: > **Gordon > I agree with Paul on the quality of Cibie replacements. I've used them and > wow!. Hella is also another brand with excellent quality. I am not familiar > with the brand you are looking at,but I would caution on using off brands. > You will be impressed with any halogen replacement, but a good quality lens > will be even more impressive. > > Cibie can be bought thru Daniel Sterns Lighting, not cheap, but the end > quality is one of the best. There is also a huge volume of lighting tech > there too. > http://www.danielsternlighting.com/ > > Also regarding use of relays, pull your power supply off the alternator or > the battery connection at the starter with an independant fuse on that > line. I'm a 510 guy at heart and that is what I did when rewiring my > headlights. Those cars use a switched ground, which makes you think a bit > when wiring the relays. > -- > Dave Patten, Owner > > FutoFab, LLC > 199 Stark Hwy So > Dunbarton, NH 03046 > > Website - www.FutoFab.com > e-mail - dave at futofab.com > > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Paul Courson wrote: > > > Yes! Years ago went to Cibie Z-beam and never looked back. > > > > The original Toshiba sealed beam units are very long-lived, at the > tradeoff > > of brightness. > > > > The Cibie halogen replacements are substantially brighter and have a much > > better light pattern. > > > > Worth doing. > > On Jan 17, 2013 11:31 PM, "Gordon Maness" > > wrote: > > > > > Has anyone replaced their headlamps with quartz haloagon?I am > > contemplating > > > doing so using http://www.racinglab.com/sealed-beam-h6024-ns2210.html. > I > > > will > > > add a relay to carry the additional current. > > > ________________________________________ > > > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe: > > > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/futofab at gsinet.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ronnie.day at gmail.com From gsglasgow at comcast.net Fri Jan 18 10:10:05 2013 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:10:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] headlights In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <796858860.106709.1358529005236.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> 35 amps. A 55-watt halogen draws about 4.5 amps (55w / 12v), so 9 amps for the pair. I've run halogens (both Cibies and Marchals) since the mid-70s using the stock wiring and stock relay without any problems. YMMV. Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA www.gordon-glasgow.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronnie Day" To: "Roadster List" Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 8:44:07 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] headlights While direct battery wiring via a relay is the only way to do this, make sure your alternator can handle the additional load, too. Don't remember off the top of my head what the rated output of the OE unit is, but it wasn't much. Maybe 40 or 50 amps at most. Ron On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 7:51 AM, David Patten wrote: > **Gordon > I agree with Paul on the quality of Cibie replacements. I've used them and > wow!. Hella is also another brand with excellent quality. I am not familiar > with the brand you are looking at,but I would caution on using off brands. > You will be impressed with any halogen replacement, but a good quality lens > will be even more impressive. > > Cibie can be bought thru Daniel Sterns Lighting, not cheap, but the end > quality is one of the best. There is also a huge volume of lighting tech > there too. > http://www.danielsternlighting.com/ > > Also regarding use of relays, pull your power supply off the alternator or > the battery connection at the starter with an independant fuse on that > line. I'm a 510 guy at heart and that is what I did when rewiring my > headlights. Those cars use a switched ground, which makes you think a bit > when wiring the relays. > -- > Dave Patten, Owner > > FutoFab, LLC > 199 Stark Hwy So > Dunbarton, NH 03046 > > Website - www.FutoFab.com > e-mail - dave at futofab.com > > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Paul Courson wrote: > > > Yes! Years ago went to Cibie Z-beam and never looked back. > > > > The original Toshiba sealed beam units are very long-lived, at the > tradeoff > > of brightness. > > > > The Cibie halogen replacements are substantially brighter and have a much > > better light pattern. > > > > Worth doing. > > On Jan 17, 2013 11:31 PM, "Gordon Maness" > > wrote: > > > > > Has anyone replaced their headlamps with quartz haloagon?I am > > contemplating > > > doing so using http://www.racinglab.com/sealed-beam-h6024-ns2210.html. > I > > > will > > > add a relay to carry the additional current. > > > ________________________________________ > > > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe: > > > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com > > B ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/futofab at gsinet.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ronnie.day at gmail.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gsglasgow at comcast.net From larrybraddock at ca.rr.com Fri Jan 18 10:35:58 2013 From: larrybraddock at ca.rr.com (Larry Braddock) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:35:58 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] death rattle Message-ID: <1C5979365DEC4762B401F1149F0EE385@S0027412759> Upon start up of my 2000, I hear the cam chain rattle for a few seconds until the oil pressure builds up. I understand there is a procedure to install a short piece of rubber hose behind the tensioner to handle this. Has anyone done this that can let me know how well it works. Also, does anyone know of a mechanic in the Los Angeles area that does this? Thanks, larry From tommy at dcwisp.net Fri Jan 18 11:02:11 2013 From: tommy at dcwisp.net (Thomas Thompson) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:02:11 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] headlights In-Reply-To: <796858860.106709.1358529005236.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <796858860.106709.1358529005236.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: And your roadster was/is (I haven't seen it for a while) spectacular with those custom inlet Cibies, Gordon!! To match my black car with the block dots on the wheel hubs, I've run Tri-bar Halogen headlamps (with the flat glass lenses and H-4 bulbs) for years, using the stock wiring. I have one on my '96 Road King as well. TT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "Ronnie Day" Cc: "Roadster List" Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] headlights > 35 amps. A 55-watt halogen draws about 4.5 amps (55w / 12v), so 9 amps for > the > pair. > > > > I've run halogens (both Cibies and Marchals) since the mid-70s using the > stock > wiring and stock relay without any problems. YMMV. > > > Gordon Glasgow > Renton, WA > www.gordon-glasgow.org > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ronnie Day" > To: "Roadster List" > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 8:44:07 AM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] headlights > > While direct battery wiring via a relay is the only way to do this, make > sure your alternator can handle the additional load, too. Don't remember > off the top of my head what the rated output of the OE unit is, but it > wasn't much. Maybe 40 or 50 amps at most. > > Ron > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 7:51 AM, David Patten wrote: > >> **Gordon >> I agree with Paul on the quality of Cibie replacements. I've used them >> and >> wow!. Hella is also another brand with excellent quality. I am not >> familiar >> with the brand you are looking at,but I would caution on using off >> brands. >> You will be impressed with any halogen replacement, but a good quality >> lens >> will be even more impressive. >> >> Cibie can be bought thru Daniel Sterns Lighting, not cheap, but the end >> quality is one of the best. There is also a huge volume of lighting tech >> there too. >> http://www.danielsternlighting.com/ >> >> Also regarding use of relays, pull your power supply off the alternator >> or >> the battery connection at the starter with an independant fuse on that >> line. I'm a 510 guy at heart and that is what I did when rewiring my >> headlights. Those cars use a switched ground, which makes you think a bit >> when wiring the relays. >> -- >> Dave Patten, Owner >> >> FutoFab, LLC >> 199 Stark Hwy So >> Dunbarton, NH 03046 >> >> Website - www.FutoFab.com >> e-mail - dave at futofab.com >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Paul Courson >> wrote: >> >> > Yes! Years ago went to Cibie Z-beam and never looked back. >> > >> > The original Toshiba sealed beam units are very long-lived, at the >> tradeoff >> > of brightness. >> > >> > The Cibie halogen replacements are substantially brighter and have a >> > much >> > better light pattern. >> > >> > Worth doing. >> > On Jan 17, 2013 11:31 PM, "Gordon Maness" >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Has anyone replaced their headlamps with quartz haloagon?I am >> > contemplating >> > > doing so using >> > > http://www.racinglab.com/sealed-beam-h6024-ns2210.html. >> I >> > > will >> > > add a relay to carry the additional current. >> > > ________________________________________ >> > > >> > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> > > >> > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > > Unsubscribe: >> > > >> > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com >> > B ________________________________________ >> > >> > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > Unsubscribe: >> > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/futofab at gsinet.net >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ronnie.day at gmail.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gsglasgow at comcast.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tommy at dcwisp.net From gsglasgow at comcast.net Fri Jan 18 11:28:06 2013 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:28:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] death rattle In-Reply-To: <1C5979365DEC4762B401F1149F0EE385@S0027412759> Message-ID: <1864809150.110395.1358533686523.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> You can also stack a bunch of washers to accomplish the same thing. They stand up better to the heat and oil bath. See http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Evil_L.asp Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA www.gordon-glasgow.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Braddock" To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 9:35:58 AM Subject: [Roadsters] death rattle Upon start up of my 2000, I hear the cam chain rattle for a few seconds until the oil pressure builds up. I understand there is a procedure to install a short piece of rubber hose behind the tensioner to handle this. Has anyone done this that can let me know how well it works. Also, does anyone know of a mechanic in the Los Angeles area that does this? Thanks, larry ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gsglasgow at comcast.net From funkaholik at yahoo.com Fri Jan 18 11:29:18 2013 From: funkaholik at yahoo.com (Erik Miller) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:29:18 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] headlights Message-ID: <30439A59-DC56-44EB-91EB-D2DF8B1105FA@yahoo.com> Two more thumbs up for Daniel Stern Lighting. He is very informative and helpful. He is not the cheapest, but only sells the best. I am using some of his Cibie halogens in my 81 VW and couldn't be happier with them. What a difference: not only in output, but beam pattern is what you pay for in a good brand name light. Always, always run relays when you have a higher current draw than stock. I have seen the melted wires than can result if you don't. Roadster content: went and looked at my non-running 1600 that's been sitting for years now. Yep, it's still there... Erik From jsk977 at optonline.net Fri Jan 18 12:04:10 2013 From: jsk977 at optonline.net (Jerry Krakauer) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:04:10 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] headlights In-Reply-To: <30439A59-DC56-44EB-91EB-D2DF8B1105FA@yahoo.com> References: <30439A59-DC56-44EB-91EB-D2DF8B1105FA@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001201cdf5ae$9958a310$cc09e930$@net> FWIW, standard H4 halogen bulbs are the same wattage as 7" sealed beams, same wattage & same voltage = same current draw. Extra relays should not be needed. Jerry Krakauer SRL311 00099 ________________________________ From Mike.Roney at RaymondJames.com Fri Jan 18 12:19:03 2013 From: Mike.Roney at RaymondJames.com (Michael Roney) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 19:19:03 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Death Rattle Message-ID: Larry: Before my roadster made the trip via a transport to Ohio, it spent about a month at Miller Sports & Imports, 80 N. Altadena Drive, Pasadena, CA 91107. The owner is Skip Miller and he can be reached at 626-793-0487. Skip was very good with communicating and reasonable in price. Doubt you could go wrong there. 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Raymond James monitors emails and may be required by law or regulation to disclose emails to third parties. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image003.jpg] From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri Jan 18 12:44:15 2013 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 19:44:15 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] headlights In-Reply-To: <8D0F5C1D-F10D-4341-BC5C-A50E67CDA91D@netscape.net> References: <1997607D-B574-482A-B074-E1255F0F018A@netscape.net> <457667404-1358529713-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-644228421-@b13.c20.bise6.blackberry> <8D0F5C1D-F10D-4341-BC5C-A50E67CDA91D@netscape.net> Message-ID: <43353189-1358538256-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1099460841-@b13.c20.bise6.blackberry> My poorly worded point was that I've never heard of LED headlights. Anyone else heard of 'em? Pete Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Linda J Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 11:16:18 To: ppeters914 at comcast.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] headlights Don't know much about LEDs except people like them Linda Sent from my iPod On Jan 18, 2013, at 9:21 AM, ppeters914 at comcast.net wrote: > LED dash lights, tail lights, & turn signals, but headlights? > > Pete > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda J > Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 08:21:31 > To: Roadster List > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] headlights > > Isn't the new thing LED lights? > > Linda > > Sent from my iPod > > On Jan 18, 2013, at 5:51 AM, David Patten wrote: > >> **Gordon >> I agree with Paul on the quality of Cibie replacements. I've used them and >> wow!. Hella is also another brand with excellent quality. I am not familiar >> with the brand you are looking at,but I would caution on using off brands. >> You will be impressed with any halogen replacement, but a good quality lens >> will be even more impressive. >> >> Cibie can be bought thru Daniel Sterns Lighting, not cheap, but the end >> quality is one of the best. There is also a huge volume of lighting tech >> there too. >> http://www.danielsternlighting.com/ >> >> Also regarding use of relays, pull your power supply off the alternator or >> the battery connection at the starter with an independant fuse on that >> line. I'm a 510 guy at heart and that is what I did when rewiring my >> headlights. Those cars use a switched ground, which makes you think a bit >> when wiring the relays. >> -- >> Dave Patten, Owner >> >> FutoFab, LLC >> 199 Stark Hwy So >> Dunbarton, NH 03046 >> >> Website - www.FutoFab.com >> e-mail - dave at futofab.com >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Paul Courson wrote: >> >>> Yes! Years ago went to Cibie Z-beam and never looked back. >>> >>> The original Toshiba sealed beam units are very long-lived, at the > tradeoff >>> of brightness. >>> >>> The Cibie halogen replacements are substantially brighter and have a much >>> better light pattern. >>> >>> Worth doing. >>> On Jan 17, 2013 11:31 PM, "Gordon Maness" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Has anyone replaced their headlamps with quartz haloagon?I am >>> contemplating >>>> doing so using http://www.racinglab.com/sealed-beam-h6024-ns2210.html. I >>>> will >>>> add a relay to carry the additional current. >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> >>>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com >>> ________________________________________ >>> >>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/futofab at gsinet.net >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne > t > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net From d_kroninger at hotmail.com Fri Jan 18 12:52:34 2013 From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:52:34 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] headlights In-Reply-To: <43353189-1358538256-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1099460841-@b13.c20.bise6.blackberry> References: <1997607D-B574-482A-B074-E1255F0F018A@netscape.net> <457667404-1358529713-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-644228421-@b13.c20.bise6.blackberry> <8D0F5C1D-F10D-4341-BC5C-A50E67CDA91D@netscape.net> <43353189-1358538256-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1099460841-@b13.c20.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: They are available in 7 inch rounds. They are really expensive though. I saw pictures of a Z with them. I think I have seen them on eBay before. They were in the neighborhood of $250 each. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:48 PM, ppeters914 at comcast.net wrote: > My poorly worded point was that I've never heard of LED headlights. > > Anyone else heard of 'em? > > Pete > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda J > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 11:16:18 > To: ppeters914 at comcast.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] headlights > > Don't know much about LEDs except people like them > > Linda > > Sent from my iPod > > On Jan 18, 2013, at 9:21 AM, ppeters914 at comcast.net wrote: > >> LED dash lights, tail lights, & turn signals, but headlights? >> >> Pete >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Linda J >> Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 08:21:31 >> To: Roadster List >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] headlights >> >> Isn't the new thing LED lights? >> >> Linda >> >> Sent from my iPod >> >> On Jan 18, 2013, at 5:51 AM, David Patten wrote: >> >>> **Gordon >>> I agree with Paul on the quality of Cibie replacements. I've used them and >>> wow!. Hella is also another brand with excellent quality. I am not familiar >>> with the brand you are looking at,but I would caution on using off brands. >>> You will be impressed with any halogen replacement, but a good quality lens >>> will be even more impressive. >>> >>> Cibie can be bought thru Daniel Sterns Lighting, not cheap, but the end >>> quality is one of the best. There is also a huge volume of lighting tech >>> there too. >>> http://www.danielsternlighting.com/ >>> >>> Also regarding use of relays, pull your power supply off the alternator or >>> the battery connection at the starter with an independant fuse on that >>> line. I'm a 510 guy at heart and that is what I did when rewiring my >>> headlights. Those cars use a switched ground, which makes you think a bit >>> when wiring the relays. >>> -- >>> Dave Patten, Owner >>> >>> FutoFab, LLC >>> 199 Stark Hwy So >>> Dunbarton, NH 03046 >>> >>> Website - www.FutoFab.com >>> e-mail - dave at futofab.com >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Paul Courson wrote: >>> >>>> Yes! Years ago went to Cibie Z-beam and never looked back. >>>> >>>> The original Toshiba sealed beam units are very long-lived, at the >> tradeoff >>>> of brightness. >>>> >>>> The Cibie halogen replacements are substantially brighter and have a much >>>> better light pattern. >>>> >>>> Worth doing. >>>> On Jan 17, 2013 11:31 PM, "Gordon Maness" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Has anyone replaced their headlamps with quartz haloagon?I am >>>> contemplating >>>>> doing so using http://www.racinglab.com/sealed-beam-h6024-ns2210.html. I >>>>> will >>>>> add a relay to carry the additional current. >>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>>>> >>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>>> Unsubscribe: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> >>>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/futofab at gsinet.net >>> ________________________________________ >>> >>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne >> t >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/d_kroninger at hotmail.co m From ljordan704 at netscape.net Fri Jan 18 13:24:50 2013 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:24:50 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Death Rattle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I echo that recommendation Sent from my iPod On Jan 18, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Michael Roney wrote: > Larry: Before my roadster made the trip via a transport to Ohio, it spent > about a month at Miller Sports & Imports, 80 N. Altadena Drive, Pasadena, CA > 91107. The owner is Skip Miller and he can be reached at 626-793-0487. > > Skip was very good with communicating and reasonable in price. Doubt you > could go wrong there. > > Mike > > Best, > The Roney Group of > Raymond James & Associates > > Mike Roney Brenda > Gnagi > Vice President, Investments Registered Client > Investment Management Consultant Service Associate > Wealth Management Specialist > > www.theroneygroup.com > > > [36E_RoneyGrp_RGB (2)] > > 3178 Kingsdale Center > Columbus, OH 43221 > > 888-301-9255 > 614-442-2340 > > Disclosures Regarding this Email Communication (Including Any Attachments) > > Please visit http://www.raymondjames.com/disclosure.htm for Additional Risk > and Disclosure Information. Raymond James does not accept private client > orders or account instructions by email. 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Raymond > James monitors emails and may be required by law or regulation to disclose > emails to third parties. > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image003.jpg] > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From aultgc at att.net Fri Jan 18 17:09:17 2013 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:09:17 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] headlights References: <796858860.106709.1358529005236.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Gordon, Me too. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "Ronnie Day" Cc: "Roadster List" Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] headlights > 35 amps. A 55-watt halogen draws about 4.5 amps (55w / 12v), so 9 amps for > the > pair. > > > > I've run halogens (both Cibies and Marchals) since the mid-70s using the > stock > wiring and stock relay without any problems. YMMV. > > > Gordon Glasgow > Renton, WA > www.gordon-glasgow.org > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ronnie Day" > To: "Roadster List" > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 8:44:07 AM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] headlights > > While direct battery wiring via a relay is the only way to do this, make > sure your alternator can handle the additional load, too. Don't remember > off the top of my head what the rated output of the OE unit is, but it > wasn't much. Maybe 40 or 50 amps at most. > > Ron > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 7:51 AM, David Patten wrote: > >> **Gordon >> I agree with Paul on the quality of Cibie replacements. I've used them >> and >> wow!. Hella is also another brand with excellent quality. I am not >> familiar >> with the brand you are looking at,but I would caution on using off >> brands. >> You will be impressed with any halogen replacement, but a good quality >> lens >> will be even more impressive. >> >> Cibie can be bought thru Daniel Sterns Lighting, not cheap, but the end >> quality is one of the best. There is also a huge volume of lighting tech >> there too. >> http://www.danielsternlighting.com/ >> >> Also regarding use of relays, pull your power supply off the alternator >> or >> the battery connection at the starter with an independant fuse on that >> line. I'm a 510 guy at heart and that is what I did when rewiring my >> headlights. Those cars use a switched ground, which makes you think a bit >> when wiring the relays. >> -- >> Dave Patten, Owner >> >> FutoFab, LLC >> 199 Stark Hwy So >> Dunbarton, NH 03046 >> >> Website - www.FutoFab.com >> e-mail - dave at futofab.com >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Paul Courson >> wrote: >> >> > Yes! Years ago went to Cibie Z-beam and never looked back. >> > >> > The original Toshiba sealed beam units are very long-lived, at the >> tradeoff >> > of brightness. >> > >> > The Cibie halogen replacements are substantially brighter and have a >> > much >> > better light pattern. >> > >> > Worth doing. >> > On Jan 17, 2013 11:31 PM, "Gordon Maness" >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Has anyone replaced their headlamps with quartz haloagon?I am >> > contemplating >> > > doing so using >> > > http://www.racinglab.com/sealed-beam-h6024-ns2210.html. >> I >> > > will >> > > add a relay to carry the additional current. >> > > ________________________________________ >> > > >> > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> > > >> > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > > Unsubscribe: >> > > >> > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com >> > B ________________________________________ >> > >> > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > Unsubscribe: >> > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/futofab at gsinet.net >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ronnie.day at gmail.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gsglasgow at comcast.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From datsunroadsters at yahoo.com Sun Jan 20 09:51:25 2013 From: datsunroadsters at yahoo.com (Eddie Wu / SAKE RKT) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 08:51:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] headlights In-Reply-To: References: <796858860.106709.1358529005236.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1358700685.48503.YahooMailNeo@web122603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> (IMHO) Ultimate Headlight Upgrade for SPL/SRL311 = (1) set of 7" round headlamps from Mercedes-Benz G-Wagon (1) set aftermarket High-Intensity Discharge (HID) kit. (35W or 55W) I use a similar setup as above but with Bosch HID projectors from an E46 BMW. And that replaced my initial 100W H4 Cibie/Hella headlamps.....which replaced the stock 55W sealed stock ones. HID > Halogens 55w or 100w At last years JCCS show, there was a vendor selling aftermarket 7" round headlights integrated with a HID projector lens housing. Basically, a cheaper alternative to the MBZ G-Wagon housing. I forget the name of this vendor...... Lastly, as far as I know... LED lighting technology is NOT used in main headlights on modern cars. LED lighting is used to light up tail lights or other indicator/accessory lights or to create a glowing outline (eg. Halos, angel eyes, stuff you see on newer Audis....) HID/Xenon lighting technology is used for lighting head lights. -Eddie Wu SAKE RKT From gsglasgow at comcast.net Sun Jan 20 10:09:59 2013 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 17:09:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] headlights In-Reply-To: <1358700685.48503.YahooMailNeo@web122603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <909976022.187271.1358701799781.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I seem to recall one or two prototype race cars (LMP class, I think) that are experimenting with stacked LED's for headlights. Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie Wu / SAKE RKT" To: "Roadster List" Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:51:25 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] headlights (IMHO) Ultimate Headlight Upgrade for SPL/SRL311 = (1) set of 7" round headlamps from Mercedes-Benz G-Wagon (1) set aftermarket High-Intensity Discharge (HID) kit. (35W or 55W) I use a similar setup as above but with Bosch HID projectors from an E46 BMW. B And that replaced my initial 100W H4 Cibie/Hella headlamps.....which replaced the stock 55W sealed stock ones. B HID > Halogens 55w or 100w At last years JCCS show, there was a vendor selling aftermarket 7" round headlights integrated with a HID projector lens housing. B Basically, a cheaper alternative to the MBZ G-Wagon housing. B I forget the name of this vendor...... Lastly, as far as I know... B LED lighting technology is NOT used in main headlights on modern cars. B LED lighting is used to light up tail lights or other indicator/accessory lights or to create a glowing outline (eg. Halos, angel eyes, stuff you see on newer Audis....) B B B B HID/Xenon lighting technology is used for lighting head lights. -Eddie Wu SAKE RKT From RWM at RWMann.com Sun Jan 20 10:21:05 2013 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 12:21:05 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] headlights In-Reply-To: <909976022.187271.1358701799781.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <909976022.187271.1358701799781.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <50FC2781.3050004@RWMann.com> True of the Audis and Peugeots. Closer to home, our Prius v Five wagon has laser-like LED low beams, halogen highs (not that they're needed). On 1/20/2013 12:09 PM, Gordon Glasgow wrote: > I seem to recall one or two prototype race cars (LMP class, I think) that are > experimenting with stacked LED's for headlights. > > > Gordon Glasgow > Renton, WA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eddie Wu / SAKE RKT" > To: "Roadster List" > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:51:25 AM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] headlights > > (IMHO) > > Ultimate Headlight Upgrade for SPL/SRL311 = > > (1) set of 7" round > headlamps from Mercedes-Benz G-Wagon > (1) set aftermarket High-Intensity > Discharge (HID) kit. (35W or 55W) > > I use a similar setup as above but with > Bosch HID projectors from an E46 BMW. B And that replaced my initial 100W H4 > Cibie/Hella headlamps.....which replaced the stock 55W sealed stock ones. B > HID > Halogens 55w or 100w > > > At last years JCCS show, there was a vendor > selling aftermarket 7" round headlights integrated with a HID projector lens > housing. B Basically, a cheaper alternative to the MBZ G-Wagon housing. B I > forget the name of this vendor...... > > Lastly, as far as I know... B LED > lighting technology is NOT used in main headlights on modern cars. B LED > lighting is used to light up tail lights or other indicator/accessory lights > or to create a glowing outline (eg. Halos, angel eyes, stuff you see on newer > Audis....) B B B B HID/Xenon lighting technology is used for lighting head > lights. > > -Eddie Wu > SAKE RKT From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 20 14:05:27 2013 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:05:27 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] headlights In-Reply-To: <50FC2781.3050004@RWMann.com> References: <909976022.187271.1358701799781.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <50FC2781.3050004@RWMann.com> Message-ID: <50FC5C17.40802@sbcglobal.net> From RWM at RWMann.com Sun Jan 20 15:32:00 2013 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 17:32:00 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] --> Re: headlights In-Reply-To: <50FC5C17.40802@sbcglobal.net> References: <909976022.187271.1358701799781.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <50FC2781.3050004@RWMann.com> <50FC5C17.40802@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <50FC7060.1090500@RWMann.com> They're simply not needed if the laser cut-off low beams are well adjusted and have terrific reach. The highs do create hot(ter) spots and provide fill-in light above the ow beam cutoff, but frankly, not that much more. The LED headlamps are the best I've seen, even better than old Cibie/Marchal 7" Euro-spec beams. On 1/20/2013 4:05 PM, Gary McCormick wrote: > Just curious -- why do you say the high beams aren't needed? > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > > On 1/20/13 9:21 AM, RWM wrote: >> True of the Audis and Peugeots. >> >> Closer to home, our Prius v Five wagon has laser-like LED low beams, >> halogen highs (not that they're needed). >> >> >> On 1/20/2013 12:09 PM, Gordon Glasgow wrote: >>> I seem to recall one or two prototype race cars (LMP class, I think) >>> that are >>> experimenting with stacked LED's for headlights. >>> >>> >>> Gordon Glasgow >>> Renton, WA >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Eddie Wu / SAKE RKT" >>> To: "Roadster List" >>> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:51:25 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] headlights >>> >>> (IMHO) >>> >>> Ultimate Headlight Upgrade for SPL/SRL311 = >>> >>> (1) set of 7" round >>> headlamps from Mercedes-Benz G-Wagon >>> (1) set aftermarket High-Intensity >>> Discharge (HID) kit. (35W or 55W) >>> >>> I use a similar setup as above but with >>> Bosch HID projectors from an E46 BMW. B And that replaced my initial >>> 100W H4 >>> Cibie/Hella headlamps.....which replaced the stock 55W sealed stock >>> ones. B >>> HID > Halogens 55w or 100w >>> >>> >>> At last years JCCS show, there was a vendor >>> selling aftermarket 7" round headlights integrated with a HID >>> projector lens >>> housing. B Basically, a cheaper alternative to the MBZ G-Wagon >>> housing. B I >>> forget the name of this vendor...... >>> >>> Lastly, as far as I know... B LED >>> lighting technology is NOT used in main headlights on modern cars. B >>> LED >>> lighting is used to light up tail lights or other >>> indicator/accessory lights >>> or to create a glowing outline (eg. Halos, angel eyes, stuff you see >>> on newer >>> Audis....) B B B B HID/Xenon lighting technology is used for >>> lighting head >>> lights. >>> >>> -Eddie Wu >>> SAKE RKT From hrhaslett at yahoo.com Sun Jan 20 18:06:00 2013 From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 17:06:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] headlights In-Reply-To: <43353189-1358538256-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1099460841-@b13.c20.bise6.blackberry> References: <1997607D-B574-482A-B074-E1255F0F018A@netscape.net> <457667404-1358529713-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-644228421-@b13.c20.bise6.blackberry> <8D0F5C1D-F10D-4341-BC5C-A50E67CDA91D@netscape.net> <43353189-1358538256-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1099460841-@b13.c20.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <1358730360.97127.YahooMailNeo@web162006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I run original Toshiba lights w/ Bosch driving lights as needed...works good. Roy To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] headlights My poorly worded point was that I've never heard of LED headlights. Anyone else heard of 'em? Pete Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Linda J Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 11:16:18 To: ppeters914 at comcast.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] headlights Don't know much about LEDs except people like them Linda Sent from my iPod On Jan 18, 2013, at 9:21 AM, ppeters914 at comcast.net wrote: > LED dash lights, tail lights, & turn signals, but headlights? > > Pete > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda J > Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 08:21:31 > To: Roadster List > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] headlights > > Isn't the new thing LED lights? > > Linda > > Sent from my iPod > > On Jan 18, 2013, at 5:51 AM, David Patten wrote: > >> **Gordon >> I agree with Paul on the quality of Cibie replacements. I've used them and >> wow!. Hella is also another brand with excellent quality. I am not familiar >> with the brand you are looking at,but I would caution on using off brands. >> You will be impressed with any halogen replacement, but a good quality lens >> will be even more impressive. >> >> Cibie can be bought thru Daniel Sterns Lighting, not cheap, but the end >> quality is one of the best. There is also a huge volume of lighting tech >> there too. >> http://www.danielsternlighting.com/ >> >> Also regarding use of relays, pull your power supply off the alternator or >> the battery connection at the starter with an independant fuse on that >> line. I'm a 510 guy at heart and that is what I did when rewiring my >> headlights. Those cars use a switched ground, which makes you think a bit >> when wiring the relays. >> -- >> Dave Patten, Owner >> >> FutoFab, LLC >> 199 Stark Hwy So >> Dunbarton, NH 03046 >> >> Website - http://www.futofab.com/ >> e-mail - dave at futofab.com >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Paul Courson wrote: >> >>> Yes! Years ago went to Cibie Z-beam and never looked back. >>> >>> The original Toshiba sealed beam units are very long-lived, at the > tradeoff >>> of brightness. >>> >>> The Cibie halogen replacements are substantially brighter and have a much >>> better light pattern. >>> >>> Worth doing. >>> On Jan 17, 2013 11:31 PM, "Gordon Maness" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Has anyone replaced their headlamps with quartz haloagon?I am >>> contemplating >>>> doing so using http://www.racinglab.com/sealed-beam-h6024-ns2210.html. I >>>> will >>>> add a relay to carry the additional current. >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> >>>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com >>> ________________________________________ >>> >>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/futofab at gsinet.net >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne > t > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/hrhaslett at yahoo.com From cehubbard at verizon.net Tue Jan 22 19:12:45 2013 From: cehubbard at verizon.net (Charles Hubbard) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 20:12:45 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] remaining roadsters (peter harrison) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01ae01cdf90f$226c21f0$674465d0$@net> The SPL 310 count is probably low. There were around 3,600 imported in 1964. I estimate about 5-10% remain in various states of rot, with a good 20-30 restored. Anyone else care to add their 2 cents? Respectfully, Charlie Hubbard HUBCo Communications, Inc. W: 469.293.3081 M: 214.507.5569 F: 214.234.9646 www.gohubco.com charlie at hubco.com From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 25 14:24:55 2013 From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Prather) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 13:24:55 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] PlastiDip M3 Matte White - DipYourCar.com Pro Car Kit Message-ID: Just a few years ago, I remember the craze of Vinyl wrapping a car with the younger generation. Look what they're up to now. Plastidipping the entire car! Basically the same stuff you used to dip your hand tools in for better grip. I can see how fun this might be in that if you muck it up all you do is peel it right back off. They even have glossifiers in cans to make them shine. Just the right stuff to set my 350 off from the rest of the Z's. Pretty cool. This would work Great for some of us who want to stripe our roadsters. Check out this video on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jayyTUy3GTw&feature=youtube_gdata_player From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com Sat Jan 26 05:41:19 2013 From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 07:41:19 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] PlastiDip M3 Matte White - DipYourCar.com Pro Car Kit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tom, Great call on using plastidip to stripe a roadster! Thx Joe Sent from my iPad On Jan 25, 2013, at 4:24 PM, Tom Prather wrote: > Just a few years ago, I remember the craze of Vinyl wrapping a car with the > younger generation. Look what they're up to now. Plastidipping the entire car! > Basically the same stuff you used to dip your hand tools in for better grip. I > can see how fun this might be in that if you muck it up all you do is peel it > right back off. They even have glossifiers in cans to make them shine. Just > the right stuff to set my 350 off from the rest of the Z's. Pretty cool. This > would work Great for some of us who want to stripe our roadsters. > Check out this video on YouTube: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jayyTUy3GTw&feature=youtube_gdata_player > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/jrusso07 at rochester.rr. com From ronnie.day at gmail.com Sun Jan 27 18:01:25 2013 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:01:25 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster rear shoes Message-ID: Don't the late ('70) roadsters use basically the same rear brake shoes as the 510? I FINALLY got the drums off today. I already have new wheel cylinders but I'm going to need to clean up the mechanical adjusters. The adjusters screws are fine but the pins are stuck pretty much in the out position. If I can't get them freed up I may be looking for replacements. Hope not. TIA, Ron From graemes at internode.on.net Sun Jan 27 19:20:19 2013 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 12:50:19 +1030 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster rear shoes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5105E063.9050005@internode.on.net> I believe the 510 shoes do fit OK [PBR E1079]**. The adjuster pins should free up with a little gentle percussion persuasion. Once you get everything apart, give it all a decent clean an re-assemble with a healthy smear of calcium grease. The threads of the adjuster bolt can also be greased or ideally, given a dose of copper coat/anti-seize goop. Regards, Graeme Suckling http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia. On 28/01/2013 11:31 AM, Ronnie Day wrote: > Don't the late ('70) roadsters use basically the same rear brake shoes as > the 510? I FINALLY got the drums off today. I already have new wheel > cylinders but I'm going to need to clean up the mechanical adjusters. The > adjusters screws are fine but the pins are stuck pretty much in the out > position. If I can't get them freed up I may be looking for replacements. > Hope not. > > TIA, > Ron > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on.net From gregs672liter at netzero.com Sun Jan 27 22:00:20 2013 From: gregs672liter at netzero.com (gregs672liter at netzero.com) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:00:20 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster rear shoes Message-ID: <20130127.210020.7104.0@webmail07.vgs.untd.com> I think a similar thread was on 311s the other day noting that the rear shoes are often installed wrong. I think it was "What happened to victors roadster" post. I think the 510 shoes will work but are not quite the same. Greg ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Graeme Suckling To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster rear shoes Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 12:50:19 +1030 I believe the 510 shoes do fit OK [PBR E1079]**. The adjuster pins should free up with a little gentle percussion persuasion. Once you get everything apart, give it all a decent clean an re-assemble with a healthy smear of calcium grease. The threads of the adjuster bolt can also be greased or ideally, given a dose of copper coat/anti-seize goop. Regards, Graeme Suckling http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia. On 28/01/2013 11:31 AM, Ronnie Day wrote: > Don't the late ('70) roadsters use basically the same rear brake shoes as > the 510? I FINALLY got the drums off today. I already have new wheel > cylinders but I'm going to need to clean up the mechanical adjusters. The > adjusters screws are fine but the pins are stuck pretty much in the out > position. If I can't get them freed up I may be looking for replacements. > Hope not. > > TIA, > Ron > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on.n et ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gregs672liter at netzero. net ____________________________________________________________ Too good to be True? Pinola: 1) Enter A Name and State. 2) Access U.S Public Records http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/51060643c075964326a9st04vuc From aultgc at att.net Sun Jan 27 23:47:33 2013 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 00:47:33 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster rear shoes References: <5105E063.9050005@internode.on.net> Message-ID: What's wrong with buying the correct shoes? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graeme Suckling" To: Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster rear shoes >I believe the 510 shoes do fit OK [PBR E1079]**. > The adjuster pins should free up with a little gentle percussion > persuasion. > Once you get everything apart, give it all a decent clean an re-assemble > with a healthy smear of calcium grease. > The threads of the adjuster bolt can also be greased or ideally, given a > dose of copper coat/anti-seize goop. > > Regards, > Graeme Suckling > http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza > Adelaide > South Australia. > > On 28/01/2013 11:31 AM, Ronnie Day wrote: >> Don't the late ('70) roadsters use basically the same rear brake shoes as >> the 510? I FINALLY got the drums off today. I already have new wheel >> cylinders but I'm going to need to clean up the mechanical adjusters. The >> adjusters screws are fine but the pins are stuck pretty much in the out >> position. If I can't get them freed up I may be looking for replacements. >> Hope not. >> >> TIA, >> Ron >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From ronnie.day at gmail.com Mon Jan 28 06:58:52 2013 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 07:58:52 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster rear shoes In-Reply-To: References: <5105E063.9050005@internode.on.net> Message-ID: The OE bits are not readily available on a local basis, so I'll probably call a couple of the usual vendors today to see if they have them and stck and to check prices. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > What's wrong with buying the correct shoes? > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graeme Suckling" < > graemes at internode.on.net> > To: > > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:20 PM > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster rear shoes > > > I believe the 510 shoes do fit OK [PBR E1079]**. >> The adjuster pins should free up with a little gentle percussion >> persuasion. >> Once you get everything apart, give it all a decent clean an re-assemble >> with a healthy smear of calcium grease. >> The threads of the adjuster bolt can also be greased or ideally, given a >> dose of copper coat/anti-seize goop. >> >> Regards, >> Graeme Suckling >> http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza >> Adelaide >> South Australia. >> >> On 28/01/2013 11:31 AM, Ronnie Day wrote: >> >>> Don't the late ('70) roadsters use basically the same rear brake shoes as >>> the 510? I FINALLY got the drums off today. I already have new wheel >>> cylinders but I'm going to need to clean up the mechanical adjusters. The >>> adjusters screws are fine but the pins are stuck pretty much in the out >>> position. If I can't get them freed up I may be looking for replacements. >>> Hope not. >>> >>> TIA, >>> Ron >>> ______________________________**__________ >>> >>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/datsun-roadsters/** >>> graemes at internode.on.net >>> >> ______________________________**__________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/datsun-roadsters/** >> aultgc at att.net >> > ______________________________**__________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/datsun-roadsters/** > ronnie.day at gmail.com From tputland at charter.net Mon Jan 28 07:18:04 2013 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 09:18:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster rear shoes Message-ID: <4aeb5c27.4190e6.13c8185a534.Webtop.43@charter.net> Depending on where you are you might look into getting yours resurfaced. tim On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Ronnie Day wrote: > The OE bits are not readily available on a local basis, so I'll > probably > call a couple of the usual vendors today to see if they have them and > stck > and to check prices. > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Gary and Cindy Ault > wrote: > >> What's wrong with buying the correct shoes? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graeme Suckling" < >> graemes at internode.on.net> >> To: > > >> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:20 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster rear shoes >> >> >> I believe the 510 shoes do fit OK [PBR E1079]**. >>> The adjuster pins should free up with a little gentle percussion >>> persuasion. >>> Once you get everything apart, give it all a decent clean an >>> re-assemble >>> with a healthy smear of calcium grease. >>> The threads of the adjuster bolt can also be greased or ideally, >>> given a >>> dose of copper coat/anti-seize goop. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Graeme Suckling >>> http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza >>> Adelaide >>> South Australia. >>> >>> On 28/01/2013 11:31 AM, Ronnie Day wrote: >>> >>>> Don't the late ('70) roadsters use basically the same rear brake >>>> shoes as >>>> the 510? I FINALLY got the drums off today. I already have new >>>> wheel >>>> cylinders but I'm going to need to clean up the mechanical >>>> adjusters. The >>>> adjusters screws are fine but the pins are stuck pretty much in the >>>> out >>>> position. If I can't get them freed up I may be looking for >>>> replacements. >>>> Hope not. >>>> >>>> TIA, >>>> Ron >>>> ______________________________**__________ >>>> >>>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net >>>> >>>> Donate: >>>> http://www.team.net/donate.**html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/datsun-roadsters/** >>>> >>>> graemes at internode.on.net >>>> >>> ______________________________**__________ >>> >>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net >>> >>> Donate: >>> http://www.team.net/donate.**html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/datsun-roadsters/** >>> >>> aultgc at att.net >>> >> ______________________________**__________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net >> >> Donate: >> http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/datsun-roadsters/** >> >> ronnie.day at gmail.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com Mon Jan 28 08:32:59 2013 From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:32:59 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster rear shoes In-Reply-To: References: <5105E063.9050005@internode.on.net> Message-ID: At one of my local auto parts store, the brakes shoes listed for a 510 are the same as those listed for a roadster. So I drove to the next store and ordered a set there. Got them in the next day only to find that they were the wrong diameter; not even close. So I went back and ordered the 510 shoes. They work just fine. Paul Ohio On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Ronnie Day wrote: > The OE bits are not readily available on a local basis, > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Gary and Cindy Ault >wrote: > > > What's wrong with buying the correct shoes? From ljordan704 at netscape.net Mon Jan 28 08:51:40 2013 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 07:51:40 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster rear shoes In-Reply-To: References: <5105E063.9050005@internode.on.net> Message-ID: The 510 shoes work fine if you get the correct ones. Lots of info on 311s.org Linda Sent from my iPod On Jan 28, 2013, at 5:58 AM, Ronnie Day wrote: > The OE bits are not readily available on a local basis, so I'll probably > call a couple of the usual vendors today to see if they have them and stck > and to check prices. > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > >> What's wrong with buying the correct shoes? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graeme Suckling" < >> graemes at internode.on.net> >> To: > >> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:20 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster rear shoes >> >> >> I believe the 510 shoes do fit OK [PBR E1079]**. >>> The adjuster pins should free up with a little gentle percussion >>> persuasion. >>> Once you get everything apart, give it all a decent clean an re-assemble >>> with a healthy smear of calcium grease. >>> The threads of the adjuster bolt can also be greased or ideally, given a >>> dose of copper coat/anti-seize goop. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Graeme Suckling >>> http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza >>> Adelaide >>> South Australia. >>> >>> On 28/01/2013 11:31 AM, Ronnie Day wrote: >>> >>>> Don't the late ('70) roadsters use basically the same rear brake shoes as >>>> the 510? I FINALLY got the drums off today. I already have new wheel >>>> cylinders but I'm going to need to clean up the mechanical adjusters. The >>>> adjusters screws are fine but the pins are stuck pretty much in the out >>>> position. If I can't get them freed up I may be looking for replacements. >>>> Hope not. >>>> >>>> TIA, >>>> Ron >>>> ______________________________**__________ >>>> >>>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/datsun-roadsters/** >>>> graemes at internode.on.net >>> ______________________________**__________ >>> >>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/datsun-roadsters/** >>> aultgc at att.net >> ______________________________**__________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/datsun-roadsters/** >> ronnie.day at gmail.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From ronnie.day at gmail.com Mon Jan 28 09:15:11 2013 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:15:11 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster rear shoes In-Reply-To: References: <5105E063.9050005@internode.on.net> Message-ID: I called the local NAPA store and the guy looked at a catalig as well as in the computer. No luck. Then I called Courtesy Nissan up near Dallas and talked to a parts guy I've known for probably 20 years. He said they couldn't get them any more. I'll call the west coast venders around noon (my time) and I'll be checking on the 510 shoes, too. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Paul Kort wrote: > At one of my local auto parts store, the brakes shoes listed for a 510 > are the same as those listed for a roadster. So I drove to the next store > and ordered a set there. Got them in the next day only to find that they > were the wrong diameter; not even close. So I went back and ordered the > 510 shoes. They work just fine. > > Paul > Ohio > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Ronnie Day wrote: > >> The OE bits are not readily available on a local basis, >> >> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Gary and Cindy Ault > >wrote: >> >> > What's wrong with buying the correct shoes? From futofab at gsinet.net Mon Jan 28 09:34:50 2013 From: futofab at gsinet.net (David Patten) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:34:50 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Brake Drum Q? Message-ID: In the collection of parts that came with my Datsun 1200 racecar, there was a single aluminum drum. new but with one broken fin. I assumed it was a Z car drum as that is what is on the rear of the car (it has an H190 510 wagon rear axle). Turns out the drum has a recess for the OD of the axle flange on the inner mounting surface. The 240Z drums I have do not, is this a Roadster drum or from another vehicle all together? I had originally thought the Roadster and Z drums were the same and interchangable. Any thoughts would be appreciated. -- Dave Patten, Owner FutoFab, LLC 199 Stark Hwy So Dunbarton, NH 03046 Website - www.FutoFab.com e-mail - dave at futofab.com From jh.bahn at verizon.net Mon Jan 28 09:44:56 2013 From: jh.bahn at verizon.net (jh.bahn at verizon.net) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:44:56 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster rear shoes In-Reply-To: References: <5105E063.9050005@internode.on.net> Message-ID: FYI Brake Shoes Rear Nissan 1968-73 PL 510 Nissan 1977-79 200SX; 1984 200SX 1977-78 280Z; 77-80 810 may fit NISMO 44060-14600 Leading shoe (Ferodo AM4 "green stuff") NISMO 44070-14600 Trailing " " " Porterfield 359 R-4 compound Carbotech CTS359-913 Hawk blue compound Datsun 510 DBA E1339 PL 510 From ronnie.day at gmail.com Mon Jan 28 10:12:59 2013 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:12:59 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Brake Drum Q? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It may be. IIRC, the center hole on the aluminum roadster drums is larger than the one in the Z drums, and there's a recess surrounded by a "ring" that's about 1/2 in wide on the late roadster drums that I don't think's on the Z drums. There are instructions (on 311s.org and other sites) on machining Z drums to fit. RD On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:34 AM, David Patten wrote: > In the collection of parts that came with my Datsun 1200 racecar, there was > a single aluminum drum. new but with one broken fin. I assumed it was a Z > car drum as that is what is on the rear of the car (it has an H190 510 > wagon rear axle). > > Turns out the drum has a recess for the OD of the axle flange on the inner > mounting surface. The 240Z drums I have do not, is this a Roadster drum or > from another vehicle all together? I had originally thought the Roadster > and Z drums were the same and interchangable. > Any thoughts would be appreciated. > -- > Dave Patten, Owner > > FutoFab, LLC > 199 Stark Hwy So > Dunbarton, NH 03046 > > Website - www.FutoFab.com > e-mail - dave at futofab.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ronnie.day at gmail.com From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Mon Jan 28 16:47:45 2013 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:47:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster rear shoes Message-ID: <37f3c.dd1c42b.3e386821@aol.com> FYI - _www.RockAuto.com_ (http://www.RockAuto.com) shows a variety of 510 brake shoes under 1972. Didn't check other years, but a possible source for shoes. Also they show some RELINED brake shoes - anyone run a source on companies that can reline the existing roadster shoes? Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) / _www.ZRoad.org_ (http://www.zroad.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) FOR SALE 1964 SPL310-01289 1967 SPL311-09144 In a message dated 1/28/2013 9:53:24 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, jh.bahn at verizon.net writes: FYI Brake Shoes Rear Nissan 1968-73 PL 510 Nissan 1977-79 200SX; 1984 200SX 1977-78 280Z; 77-80 810 may fit NISMO 44060-14600 Leading shoe (Ferodo AM4 "green stuff") NISMO 44070-14600 Trailing " " " Porterfield 359 R-4 compound Carbotech CTS359-913 Hawk blue compound Datsun 510 DBA E1339 PL 510 ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/barterdude at aol.com From ronnie.day at gmail.com Mon Jan 28 18:52:25 2013 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:52:25 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster rear shoes In-Reply-To: <37f3c.dd1c42b.3e386821@aol.com> References: <37f3c.dd1c42b.3e386821@aol.com> Message-ID: Ordered a set of 510 shoes at the local NAPA this afternoon. If I need to drill additional holes for the return springs to match the OE locations that should be a problem. $21 and they should be here Thursday or Friday. If the weather cooperates I can install the new wheels cylinders and clean up the mechanical adjusters before then so all I'll need to do is mount the new shoes, reinstall the drums and bleed the system. Then I can put the rear wheels on and do the mechanical adjustment. Then I just need to get the carpet kit in, reinstall the seats and I can start thinking about putting this thing on the market in a couple of months. Also realized on the way home today that I need to dig the OE steel rims and hub caps out of storage so I can clean them up, paint the wheels and put new tires on them. I plan to keep the 15 x 6 Panasports and use them on the unflared 510. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:47 PM, wrote: > FYI - _www.RockAuto.com_ (http://www.RockAuto.com) shows a variety of > 510 > brake shoes under 1972. Didn't check other years, but a possible source > for shoes. > > > Also they show some RELINED brake shoes - anyone run a source on companies > that can reline the existing roadster shoes? > > > Gary Lasater - Parker CO > founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) / > _www.ZRoad.org_ (http://www.zroad.org/) > 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) > 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) FOR SALE > 1964 SPL310-01289 > 1967 SPL311-09144 > > > > > > In a message dated 1/28/2013 9:53:24 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, > jh.bahn at verizon.net writes: > > FYI > Brake Shoes Rear > Nissan 1968-73 PL 510 > Nissan 1977-79 200SX; 1984 200SX > 1977-78 280Z; 77-80 810 may fit > NISMO 44060-14600 Leading shoe (Ferodo AM4 "green > stuff") > NISMO 44070-14600 Trailing " " " > Porterfield 359 R-4 compound > Carbotech CTS359-913 Hawk blue compound Datsun 510 > DBA E1339 PL 510 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/barterdude at aol.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ronnie.day at gmail.com From tom at datsun2000.com Mon Jan 28 21:39:50 2013 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:39:50 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster rear shoes - Relining Message-ID: <51075296.3080700@datsun2000.com> Ott's Friction Supply in Portland, Oregon can reline brake shoes and clutch disks as well. When I pulled wrench on a D Sports racer in the late 60's we had the clutch disk relined with HiBall. If I remember correctly, I was told HiBall has been replaced with Type 104 friction material (no asbestos). This friction material is used on crane drum brakes and can take a lot of abuse with little wear in a car. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Las Vegas http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On 1/28/2013 3:47:45 PM, BARTERDUDE at aol.com wrote: > FYI - _www.RockAuto.com_ (http://www.RockAuto.com) shows a variety of 510 > brake shoes under 1972. Didn't check other years, but a possible source > for shoes. > > > Also they show some RELINED brake shoes - anyone run a source on companies > that can reline the existing roadster shoes? > > > Gary Lasater - Parker CO > founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) / > _www.ZRoad.org_ (http://www.zroad.org/) > 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) > 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) FOR SALE > 1964 SPL310-01289 > 1967 SPL311-09144 > > > > > > In a message dated 1/28/2013 9:53:24 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, > jh.bahn at verizon.net writes: > > FYI > Brake Shoes Rear > Nissan 1968-73 PL 510 > Nissan 1977-79 200SX; 1984 200SX > 1977-78 280Z; 77-80 810 may fit > NISMO 44060-14600 Leading shoe (Ferodo AM4 "green > stuff") > NISMO 44070-14600 Trailing " " " > Porterfield 359 R-4 compound > Carbotech CTS359-913 Hawk blue compound Datsun 510 > DBA E1339 PL 510 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/barterdude at aol.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tom at datsun2000.com > > > > > ----- > No From stevenehlers at charter.net Mon Jan 28 23:09:03 2013 From: stevenehlers at charter.net (stevenehlers at charter.net) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:09:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 5, Issue 28 Message-ID: <56266e85.2a2934.13c84ec49ba.Webtop.49@charter.net> Hey Ronnie , If I recall you may be a Dallas person .?.? It's a shame that since I'm in Ft Worth and that I have All of these shoes in stock .I have NOS Datsun/Nissan , for Roadster shoes ,510 shoes ,both Stock NOS Nissan and NOS Datsun Competition shoes in stock . I don't advertise on this forum and so I really don't tell many ,if any people on it ,about what I personally have for Roadsters .I'm very busy with my Z car shop and not really a parts store for all the Datsun /Nissan products I service and Restore . Steve www.risingsunperformance.com > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Roadster rear shoes (Ronnie Day) > 2. Roadster Brake Drum Q? (David Patten) > 3. Roadster rear shoes (jh.bahn at verizon.net) > 4. Re: Roadster Brake Drum Q? (Ronnie Day) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:15:11 -0600 > From: Ronnie Day > To: Roadster List > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster rear shoes > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I called the local NAPA store and the guy looked at a catalig as well > as in > the computer. No luck. Then I called Courtesy Nissan up near Dallas > and > talked to a parts guy I've known for probably 20 years. He said they > couldn't get them any more. I'll call the west coast venders around > noon > (my time) and I'll be checking on the 510 shoes, too. > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Paul Kort > wrote: > >> At one of my local auto parts store, the brakes shoes listed for a >> 510 >> are the same as those listed for a roadster. So I drove to the next >> store >> and ordered a set there. Got them in the next day only to find that >> they >> were the wrong diameter; not even close. So I went back and ordered >> the >> 510 shoes. They work just fine. >> >> Paul >> Ohio >> >> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Ronnie Day >> wrote: >> >>> The OE bits are not readily available on a local basis, >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Gary and Cindy Ault >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> What's wrong with buying the correct shoes? From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com Thu Jan 31 10:01:24 2013 From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:01:24 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Straight V6? Message-ID: http://limaohio.craigslist.org/cto/3534862685.html I'm getting old and suffering from CRS*, but for the life of me, I can't remember which Z had the "straight V6" in it? Just gotta love these ads! Paul Ohio * Can't Remember Sh!t From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Thu Jan 31 10:18:08 2013 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:18:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Straight V6? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1359652688.88503.YahooMailClassic@web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> "straight v-6" -- that's hilarious. BTW -- body proportions look OK from the front, but from the side it looks shortened. --- On Thu, 1/31/13, Paul Kort wrote: From: Paul Kort Subject: [Roadsters] Straight V6? To: "510s" , "Roadster Stuff" Date: Thursday, January 31, 2013, 9:01 AM http://limaohio.craigslist.org/cto/3534862685.html I'm getting old and suffering from CRS*, but for the life of me, I can't remember which Z had the "straight V6" in it? Just gotta love these ads! Paul Ohio * Can't Remember Sh!t ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net From mark at bradakis.com Thu Jan 31 12:00:37 2013 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:00:37 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Straight V6? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <510ABF55.8000607@bradakis.com> I have no idea how to tell if an engine is straight or gay. mjb. From davidbentz at gmail.com Thu Jan 31 12:00:18 2013 From: davidbentz at gmail.com (David Bentz) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:00:18 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Straight V6? In-Reply-To: <510ABF55.8000607@bradakis.com> References: <510ABF55.8000607@bradakis.com> Message-ID: Does the orientation of the engine REALLY matter? David On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > I have no idea how to tell if an engine is straight or gay. > > mjb. > ______________________________**__________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/datsun-roadsters/** > davidbentz at gmail.com From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Thu Jan 31 12:04:47 2013 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 11:04:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Straight V6? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1359659087.23827.YahooMailClassic@web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Orientation maybe not, but configuration is critical for mating parts interfaces. --- On Thu, 1/31/13, David Bentz wrote: From: David Bentz Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Straight V6? To: "Mark J Bradakis" Cc: "Roadster Stuff" Date: Thursday, January 31, 2013, 11:00 AM Does the orientation of the engine REALLY matter? David On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > I have no idea how to tell if an engine is straight or gay. > > mjb. > ______________________________**__________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/datsun-roadsters/** > davidbentz at gmail.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net From ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com Thu Jan 31 12:04:36 2013 From: ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com (Stan) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:04:36 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Straight V6? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Would that make it 12 cylinders? Stan On 1/31/2013 10:01 AM, Paul Kort wrote: > http://limaohio.craigslist.org/cto/3534862685.html > > I'm getting old and suffering from CRS*, but for the life of me, I can't > remember which Z had the "straight V6" in it? > > Just gotta love these ads! > > Paul > Ohio > * Can't Remember Sh!t > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 31 12:22:08 2013 From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 11:22:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Straight V6? In-Reply-To: <510ABF55.8000607@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <1359660128.27871.YahooMailClassic@web124904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> You gotta hear it "breathe"..... Then again, if it is mounted transversly wouldn't that be a "different orientation"? Mike Harper, CAI, AARE Harper Auction & Realty 843-729-4996 "Experience Sells" www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET --- On Thu, 1/31/13, Mark J Bradakis wrote: From: Mark J Bradakis Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Straight V6? To: "Roadster Stuff" Date: Thursday, January 31, 2013, 2:00 PM I have no idea how to tell if an engine is straight or gay. mjb. ________________________________________ From alvingogi at gmail.com Thu Jan 31 12:42:59 2013 From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 11:42:59 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] $150 Laguna Seca Track Day on Super Bowl Sunday! Message-ID: Drive on the world famous track AND be home in time for the Super Bowl Sunday Full details here: Laguna Seca Track Day: $150 Super Bowl Special! From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com Thu Jan 31 12:46:25 2013 From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:46:25 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Canby t-shirt? Message-ID: Last year, shortly after the event, I bought a Canby t-shirt. I mailed a check, and got a nice t-shirt. But to date, the check has not been cashed. Paul Ohio From davidbentz at gmail.com Thu Jan 31 12:56:22 2013 From: davidbentz at gmail.com (David Bentz) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:56:22 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Canby t-shirt? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Paul, If it would make you feel better, you can send me a check and I'd be happy to cash it for you. To simplify the process, you can just send the check and I'll fill it out. Dave On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Paul Kort wrote: > Last year, shortly after the event, I bought a Canby t-shirt. I mailed a > check, and got a nice t-shirt. But to date, the check has not been cashed. > > Paul > Ohio > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/davidbentz at gmail.com From tputland at charter.net Thu Jan 31 14:18:42 2013 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:18:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] Canby t-shirt? Message-ID: AT this point, your bank might not even honor it if it is older than six months. tim On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Paul Kort wrote: > Last year, shortly after the event, I bought a Canby t-shirt. I > mailed a > check, and got a nice t-shirt. But to date, the check has not been > cashed. > > Paul > Ohio > ________________________________________ From chalsted at comcast.net Thu Jan 31 17:51:27 2013 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 00:51:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] OT- 54 Packard convertible In-Reply-To: <754566042.476543.1359679246705.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1656002360.476726.1359679887724.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I have someone interested in trading bodywork/paint on my 54 Packard convertible for one of my roadsters. I'm planning to sell it, undecided as to whether I'm better off to sell it as is so a potential buyer will see what it really is like and be able to paint it as they please or better to have the bodywork (actually minimal) done and sell it in paint. any thoughts? he worked for years at a high end restoration shop locally and now has his own shop so he certainly has the skills to do a nice job...car has 70k original miles on it, rebuilt original engine, good original interior, presentable chrome, beautiful dash, nice top...even has fender skirts and it's boot for when the top's down thanks for your input :-) Craig From vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com Thu Jan 31 21:02:12 2013 From: vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com (Vince Strazzabosco) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 20:02:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] OT- 54 Packard convertible In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1359691332.52005.YahooMailClassic@web160806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> My thinking is that quality, professional body and paint work isn't cheap or always easy to get. Moreover, a nice convertible like this would certainly sell for more and probably be a much easier sale if the body and paint is nicely done. The same would of course, apply to a fine convertible like a Datsun Roadster. He may be willing to pay more in labor and materials than the car would bring if soild otherwise. But you already know this... The question is, how much is one of your roadsters worth to you? vince > Message: 10 > Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 00:51:27 +0000 (UTC) > From: chalsted at comcast.net > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] OT- 54 Packard convertible > Message-ID: > <1656002360.476726.1359679887724.JavaMail.root at sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.co mcast.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I have someone interested in trading bodywork/paint on my 54 > Packard convertible for one of my roadsters. I'm planning to > sell it, undecided as to whether I'm better off to sell it > as is so a potential buyer will see what it really is like > and be able to paint it as they please or better to have the > bodywork (actually minimal) done and sell it in paint. any > thoughts? he worked for years at a high end restoration shop > locally and now has his own shop so he certainly has the > skills to do a nice job...car has 70k original miles on it, > rebuilt original engine, good original interior, presentable > chrome, beautiful dash, nice top...even has fender skirts > and it's boot for when the top's down > thanks for your input :-) > Craig > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > End of Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 5, Issue 31 > *********************************************** From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Thu Jan 31 21:04:13 2013 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 04:04:13 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: packard convertible body work Message-ID: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F6602193D33@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> << any thoughts? >> Craig, you are a brave man to put that questions out to this forum. I say GO FOR IT, the Packard is some classic steel, and sounds like the background / provenance of the body man speaks for itself. I'd love to see what he makes of the roadster.... FergusO From stevenehlers at charter.net Thu Jan 31 22:28:27 2013 From: stevenehlers at charter.net (stevenehlers at charter.net) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 00:28:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] OT- 54 Packard convertible Message-ID: <3a57d103.3f192e.13c943a3329.Webtop.47@charter.net> Craig , They are "Original" only once as they say ,so to paint it now ,even professionally ,would it add so much value to a potential buyer is the question ,that is comparable to your Datsun trade .... How much does it cost to completely disassemble and paint this car ,with new needed items ( can you even get them easily and or ,does he supply them in the job ?) that get removed that need replacement at the time of a"complete" overall repaint ??? How much time to do it ,and will he do it on a timely basis .?.?. My guess is that a High end paint job starts at 10-15k .If he isn't in that ball park of cost or value of a car your trying to batter with ,"Bail" now . If I wanted this car ,I would want it as is -were is . I don't know what the price range of a 54 Packard beater is compared to a Top Flight Concourse restored car .... Do the research for peach of mind ,and decide were this car would be ,quality wise then .. Unless your feeling sorry for the guy ,you owe him a favor ,or your trying to do your part to support humanity ,in this God forsaken Country ,that we have been turned into by the HNIC , then do the deal and feel better about doing your part for your own good karma ...... Good luck on your decision . Steve www.risingsunperformance.com "The Datsun Z Car Experts" Message: 10 Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 00:51:27 +0000 (UTC) From: chalsted at comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] OT- 54 Packard convertible Message-ID: <1656002360.476726.1359679887724.JavaMail.root at sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have someone interested in trading bodywork/paint on my 54 Packard convertible for one of my roadsters. I'm planning to sell it, undecided as to whether I'm better off to sell it as is so a potential buyer will see what it really is like and be able to paint it as they please or better to have the bodywork (actually minimal) done and sell it in paint. any thoughts? he worked for years at a high end restoration shop locally and now has his own shop so he certainly has the skills to do a nice job...car has 70k original miles on it, rebuilt original engine, good original interior, presentable chrome, beautiful dash, nice top...even has fender skirts and it's boot for when the top's down thanks for your input :-) Craig