From cehubbard at verizon.net  Thu Nov  1 13:24:21 2012
From: cehubbard at verizon.net (Charles Hubbard)
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 14:24:21 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Tim Corcoran
Message-ID: <02bc01cdb866$7f18a930$7d49fb90$@net>

Is Tim Corcoran still out there?  I tried dialing his home number in WA and
sent a note to his old spl310 at comcast.net address. The number is no longer
valid and the email bounced as well.  I sure hope that he is OK.

 

Respectfully,

 

Charlie Hubbard

cehubbard at verizon.net

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat]

From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  1 19:29:45 2012
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 18:29:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] I remember when....
Message-ID: <1351819785.4208.YahooMailRC@web184802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I didn't have to wade through 35 political emails, to get to the one about 
Roadsters.

I haven't driven mine in awhile, since it sprung a radiator leak.  anyone else 
buy one of those aluminum radiators from eBay?  how do you like it?  price seems 
right.

s
675MIZU

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu Nov  1 22:32:05 2012
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 04:32:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Aluminum radiators on eBay (was "I remember when....")
In-Reply-To: <1351819785.4208.YahooMailRC@web184802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1409711056.1193168.1351830725403.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

I don't remember if they were discussed here on the list, but there's a thread or two on the 311s.org forum. 

Pete 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "steven boortz" <vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com> 
To: "roadsters" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 6:29:45 PM 
Subject: [Roadsters] I remember when.... 

I didn't have to wade through 35 political emails, to get to the one about 
Roadsters. 

I haven't driven mine in awhile, since it sprung a radiator leak. anyone else 
buy one of those aluminum radiators from eBay? how do you like it? price seems 
right. 

s 
675MIZU 
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From tputland at charter.net  Fri Nov  2 05:19:30 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 07:19:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] I remember when....
Message-ID: <147a740d.cb39b.13ac0d8e29f.Webtop.47@charter.net>

I think I've read that they don't always fit 100% corectly depending on 
the year of your car. Check the mothership (311s.org) as there is at 
least one write up about these that explains what others have gone 
through with these rads.

tim


On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 8:29 PM, steven boortz wrote:

> I didn't have to wade through 35 political emails, to get to the one 
> about Roadsters.
>
> I haven't driven mine in awhile, since it sprung a radiator leak. 
> anyone else buy one of those aluminum radiators from eBay?  how do you 
> like it?  price seems right.
>
> s
> 675MIZU
> ________________________________________
>
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>
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From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Fri Nov  2 19:26:57 2012
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 18:26:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] spam responses
Message-ID: <1351906017.91447.YahooMailRC@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

hi everyone

i sent out a recent email about the aluminum radiators for roadsters, and 
received a few responses pointing me to the wiki section of 311s.org.  too, i 
received 2 responses from (supposedly) lonely and horny women directing me to 
their websites.  at first i thought my email was screwing with me (no pun) by 
putting "roadsters" in the subject line, but sure enough, somehow, the emails 
were in response to mine to the list.

does this happen to anyone else?  i'm sure i'll get more in response to this.

s
675MIZU

From davidbentz at gmail.com  Sat Nov  3 05:59:03 2012
From: davidbentz at gmail.com (David Bentz)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 07:59:03 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] spam responses
In-Reply-To: <1351906017.91447.YahooMailRC@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1351906017.91447.YahooMailRC@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CALO7pZogbgTdp+wtF=o6Yf-h+oGszmULzkjR5Uav8bNkuJBhYw@mail.gmail.com>

Did these women have aluminum radiators for sale on their websites?


On Friday, November 2, 2012, steven boortz wrote:

> hi everyone
>
> i sent out a recent email about the aluminum radiators for roadsters, and
> received a few responses pointing me to the wiki section of 311s.org.
>  too, i
> received 2 responses from (supposedly) lonely and horny women directing me
> to
> their websites.  at first i thought my email was screwing with me (no pun)
> by
> putting "roadsters" in the subject line, but sure enough, somehow, the
> emails
> were in response to mine to the list.
>
> does this happen to anyone else?  i'm sure i'll get more in response to
> this.
>
> s
> 675MIZU
> ________________________________________
>
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net <javascript:;>
>
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From wilhouse400 at att.net  Sat Nov  3 06:39:28 2012
From: wilhouse400 at att.net (Kendall Williams)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 05:39:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] spam responses
In-Reply-To: <1351906017.91447.YahooMailRC@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1351906017.91447.YahooMailRC@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1351946368.73303.YahooMailRC@web184702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I get those more and more.  Especially on my hotmail account at work.  I'm not
sure how that works, but it drives me crazy.  (Note I did not say it drives me
nuts, although that would have fit with the theme)  

Ken

ps By the
way.....what were the websites?  You know, for research purposes only. 

Just
kidding :-)

From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Sat Nov  3 10:40:55 2012
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 09:40:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] spam responses
In-Reply-To: <CALO7pZogbgTdp+wtF=o6Yf-h+oGszmULzkjR5Uav8bNkuJBhYw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1351906017.91447.YahooMailRC@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<CALO7pZogbgTdp+wtF=o6Yf-h+oGszmULzkjR5Uav8bNkuJBhYw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1351960855.60610.YahooMailRC@web184801.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

alas, they did not.  but it's strange that they all contain "RE: [my original 
subject]" in the subject line.




________________________________
From: David Bentz <davidbentz at gmail.com>
To: steven boortz <vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com>
Cc: roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, November 3, 2012 4:59:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spam responses

Did these women have aluminum radiators for sale on their websites?


On Friday, November 2, 2012, steven boortz  wrote:

hi everyone
>
>i sent out a recent email about the aluminum radiators for roadsters, and
>received a few responses pointing me to the wiki section of 311s.org.  too, i
>received 2 responses from (supposedly) lonely and horny women directing me to
>their websites.  at first i thought my email was screwing with me (no pun) by
>putting "roadsters" in the subject line, but sure enough, somehow, the emails
>were in response to mine to the list.
>
>does this happen to anyone else?  i'm sure i'll get more in response to this.
>
>s
>675MIZU
>________________________________________
>
>datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>
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From stevenehlers at charter.net  Sat Nov  3 22:48:11 2012
From: stevenehlers at charter.net (stevenehlers at charter.net)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 00:48:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 4, Issue 316
Message-ID: <c0f8dbe.df08f.13ac9bf5ad4.Webtop.49@charter.net>

Steven ,
  I would not be surprised that if you have a Facebook account ,they 
might be using that to get to you .
There are several dating sites that use it as a front door to them .

I have now been getting spam regularly that looks like it is being sent 
to me by my father and 2 Brothers .
Complete names so it looks real till you open it and see the email addy 
is wrong for them ,and a link to
some kind of Internet business or some such .... The only way that I 
assume this ,is that is that they all
have Facebook accounts ,and with names and initials and middle names 
used .....
I plan to shut mine down as it serves me no purpose ,other than to 
monitor my teen aged daughters .

Steve Ehlers in Texas
www.risingsunperformance.com




> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 18:26:57 -0700 (PDT)
> From: steven boortz <vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com>
> To: roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Roadsters] spam responses
> Message-ID:
> 	<1351906017.91447.YahooMailRC at web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> hi everyone
>
> i sent out a recent email about the aluminum radiators for roadsters, 
> and received a few responses pointing me to the wiki section of 
> 311s.org.  too, i received 2 responses from (supposedly) lonely and 
> horny women directing me to their websites.  at first i thought my 
> email was screwing with me (no pun) by putting "roadsters" in the 
> subject line, but sure enough, somehow, the emails were in response to 
> mine to the list.
>
> does this happen to anyone else?  i'm sure i'll get more in response 
> to this.
>
> s
> 675MIZU
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 05:39:28 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Kendall Williams <wilhouse400 at att.net>
> To: roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spam responses
> Message-ID:
> 	<1351946368.73303.YahooMailRC at web184702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I get those more and more.  Especially on my hotmail account at work. 
> I'm not
> sure how that works, but it drives me crazy.  (Note I did not say it 
> drives me
> nuts, although that would have fit with the theme)
> Ken
>
> ps By the
> way.....what were the websites?  You know, for research purposes only.
> Just
> kidding :-)
>

>> does this happen to anyone else?  i'm sure i'll get more in response 
>> to this.
>>
>> s
>> 675MIZU

From stevenehlers at charter.net  Sat Nov  3 23:42:57 2012
From: stevenehlers at charter.net (stevenehlers at charter.net)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 01:42:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 4, Issue 316
Message-ID: <59fce698.df1eb.13ac9f17dd1.Webtop.49@charter.net>

Now I get the Spam Mail after sending you this from a dating Site !
With the same Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 4, Issue 316 
in the subject line !
Steven ,I suspect your email is what the problem is as I sent it Cc to 
:vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com . Is this Your mail ?
Steve

Steven ,
  I would not be surprised that if you have a Facebook account ,they 
might be using that to get to you .
There are several dating sites that use it as a front door to them .

I have now been getting spam regularly that looks like it is being sent 
to me by my father and 2 Brothers .
Complete names so it looks real till you open it and see the email addy 
is wrong for them ,and a link to
some kind of Internet business or some such .... The only way that I 
assume this ,is that is that they all
have Facebook accounts ,and with names and initials and middle names 
used .....
I plan to shut mine down as it serves me no purpose ,other than to 
monitor my teen aged daughters .

Steve Ehlers in Texas
www.risingsunperformance.com


> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 18:26:57 -0700 (PDT)
> From: steven boortz <vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com>
> To: roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Roadsters] spam responses
> Message-ID:
> 	<1351906017.91447.YahooMailRC at web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> hi everyone
>
> i sent out a recent email about the aluminum radiators for roadsters, 
> and received a few responses pointing me to the wiki section of 
> 311s.org.  too, i received 2 responses from (supposedly) lonely and 
> horny women directing me to their websites.  at first i thought my 
> email was screwing with me (no pun) by putting "roadsters" in the 
> subject line, but sure enough, somehow, the emails were in response to 
> mine to the list.
>
> does this happen to anyone else?  i'm sure i'll get more in response 
> to this.
>
> s
> 675MIZU
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 05:39:28 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Kendall Williams <wilhouse400 at att.net>
> To: roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spam responses
> Message-ID:
> 	<1351946368.73303.YahooMailRC at web184702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I get those more and more.  Especially on my hotmail account at work. 
> I'm not
> sure how that works, but it drives me crazy.  (Note I did not say it 
> drives me
> nuts, although that would have fit with the theme)
> Ken
>
> ps By the
> way.....what were the websites?  You know, for research purposes only.
> Just
> kidding :-)
>

>> does this happen to anyone else?  i'm sure i'll get more in response 
>> to this.
>>
>> s
>> 675MIZU

From jh.bahn at verizon.net  Sun Nov  4 07:25:39 2012
From: jh.bahn at verizon.net (jh.bahn at verizon.net)
Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 09:25:39 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] East Coast 411 SSS
Message-ID: <7276FAC4AA1E47D7949DB38DCE8FA25E@BahnTHINK>

b67;  rebuilt 3 main engine & 4 sp. tranny.  Great interior, 10 yr. old
paint showing some bubbles, lots of spares.   Car is drivable but not fully
sorted. Looking for serious inquiries. If memory serves, I believe Mike Unger
has the right of first refusal.  Car is in Maryland.
JH Bahn
jh.bahn at verizon.net

From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Sun Nov  4 09:03:06 2012
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 10:03:06 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] OT - US Grand Prix
Message-ID: <CAMHhs6c+eynQyGdtmR71Kj_epyEPT8wihDzPTyfHBuGosTdo+g@mail.gmail.com>

I just watched the Abu Dhabi F1 race and it was a real barn burner.
Sebastian Vettel did an incredible job, starting dead last and finishing
3rd. And it was great to see the Lotus versus Ferrari battle for the win.
Deja vu all over again! This set up a very tight finish for the driver's
championship so the race in two weeks at Circuit of the Americas in Austin
carries importance beyond being the first race at COTA and the return of F1
to the US. I'm not able to go due to recent health issues, but TV coverage
should be extensive. I just hope it's not blacked out in our area.

COTA has an extensive website and there are some great videos linked off of
<theaustingrandprix.com> including an in-car lap with Mario Andretti
driving an older Lotus/JPS. There are already several more major events on
the COTA schedule. It'll be interesting to see if the track works with
grassroots groups for club and track day events.

Ron

From davidbentz at gmail.com  Sun Nov  4 09:56:43 2012
From: davidbentz at gmail.com (David Bentz)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 11:56:43 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] East Coast 411 SSS
In-Reply-To: <7276FAC4AA1E47D7949DB38DCE8FA25E@BahnTHINK>
References: <7276FAC4AA1E47D7949DB38DCE8FA25E@BahnTHINK>
Message-ID: <CALO7pZrH542TuYhU2+MnW3A2EGDaG-xU2Qduz6CfrJ+JP=oO5g@mail.gmail.com>

JH,
What kind of ballpark price are you looking for the car? I only ask because
I have no idea.
Dave

On Sunday, November 4, 2012, wrote:

> b 67;  rebuilt 3 main engine & 4 sp. tranny.  Great interior, 10 yr. old
> paint showing some bubbles, lots of spares.   Car is drivable but not fully
> sorted. Looking for serious inquiries. If memory serves, I believe Mike
> Unger
> has the right of first refusal.  Car is in Maryland.
> JH Bahn
> jh.bahn at verizon.net <javascript:;>
> ________________________________________
>
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From pat at hornesystemstx.com  Sun Nov  4 11:21:03 2012
From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 12:21:03 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] OT - US Grand Prix
In-Reply-To: <CAMHhs6c+eynQyGdtmR71Kj_epyEPT8wihDzPTyfHBuGosTdo+g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMHhs6c+eynQyGdtmR71Kj_epyEPT8wihDzPTyfHBuGosTdo+g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5096B20F.6070101@hornesystemstx.com>

If anyone is coming to the Austin area for the COTA F1 race, we have an 
apartment that is available about 20 mile from the track that is 
available. We have been asking $1000 fir the week, but are willing to 
discount that for Roadster folks! Check out http://www.silentvalleytx.com

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Ronnie Day
> I just watched the Abu Dhabi F1 race and it was a real barn burner.
> Sebastian Vettel did an incredible job, starting dead last and finishing
> 3rd. And it was great to see the Lotus versus Ferrari battle for the win.
> Deja vu all over again! This set up a very tight finish for the driver's
> championship so the race in two weeks at Circuit of the Americas in Austin
> carries importance beyond being the first race at COTA and the return of F1
> to the US. I'm not able to go due to recent health issues, but TV coverage
> should be extensive. I just hope it's not blacked out in our area.
>
> COTA has an extensive website and there are some great videos linked off of
> <theaustingrandprix.com> including an in-car lap with Mario Andretti
> driving an older Lotus/JPS. There are already several more major events on
> the COTA schedule. It'll be interesting to see if the track works with
> grassroots groups for club and track day events.
>
> Ron
> ________________________________________
>
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>
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>
>
>

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From Walter.Peterson at cox.net  Sun Nov  4 13:35:17 2012
From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter.Peterson)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 12:35:17 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Was there ever a stiffer isolator solution for our
 stock motor mounting?
Message-ID: <005201cdbacb$e74e05b0$b5ea1110$@cox.net>

I searched back through my email ring archives and only found a few
discussions on this subject. (2010)
I'm hoping someone else has done all of the work already and can just email
me the link to success.

A few years back I started researching & finding a suitable replacements for
the stock isolators. I tried an isolator that was made by one of our Datsun
Parts vendors but unfortunately they ripped apart and were also
discontinued. So I went back to the stock super soft isolators.

This became a priority again when I recently bought a new set of sticky
tires (Falken Azenis rt-615k 14") and the motor/Mikuni air cleaner started
twisting up and hitting the brake master again. This doesn't happen as much
when your tires suck and BTW, no tire slippage makes you feel like the car
lost Horsepower!

I recently installed a modified set of those Prothane Jeep CJ5 mounts &
brackets to get it all to fit.  Its tight, but it works all too well. Still
using the stock trans mount. 

Wow, the car works so much better! The shifting is so much tighter. It's
almost imposable to miss a shift going up or down. High speed drifting &
setup into the corners is far more predictable. Next thing I noticed was
that the Solexes needed that neglected second round of rebalancing due to
the replacement of the broken throttle linkage 6 months ago.

Now the downside. It's got severe chassis & dash area vibrations from idle
~1000 RPM up to 2700 RPM, then it goes away. Its vibration free from 2800 to
8000 RPM. Another round of tuning/syncing on the carbs will likely help some
more on the bottom end, but the basic physics of a 4 cylinder engine is why
there are isolation dampers on motor mounts. It also turns out that the
specifications for most of the isolators I've looked at have absorption
(resonate damping) values around  2500 Hz.

Another upside was discovering that the outside fresh air cowl vent cover is
one of the vibrating culprits, as well as the SS vent level interior plate
on the heater console. The door wing wings are also taking notable exception
to getting vibe tested and something under the instrument panel is
complaining. It's not the wiper arm or anything else I can reach on the
driver side either.

A few more options.
I can go get the stock Jeep rubber mount, now that the trick one was fitted.
Probably too stiff as well but maybe fine.
Find & use the Chevy mount mentioned back in the 2010 archive.

The 510 mounts were actually pretty good back when I raced. Now that I've
modified a set of brackets for a center single bolt, I could try them &
maybe even put some travel limiting set screws in their little built-in stop
brackets.

**** Making a new isolator. ****
I started a dialog with a custom Urethane vendor in LA who has agreed to
make us something. I say us, because making just a few sets for just me, may
be cost prohibitive.

I'm hoping someone else has done all of the work already and can just email
me the link to success.

Walt Peterson
Santa Barbara
20R Street Racer
"Datsa 67"

From Walter.Peterson at cox.net  Sun Nov  4 13:50:01 2012
From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter.Peterson)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 12:50:01 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for a new early soft-top front bow. Mine is
 just too beat up to repair I think.
Message-ID: <005c01cdbacd$f64e21b0$e2ea6510$@cox.net>

To fit an early 67.
 
Thank you,
 
Walt Peterson
Santa Barbara
20R Street Racer
"Datsa 67"

From Walter.Peterson at cox.net  Sun Nov  4 14:14:39 2012
From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter.Peterson)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 13:14:39 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Where to repair my hard top?
Message-ID: <006101cdbad1$67003350$350099f0$@cox.net>

Yep, ok winter is coming. I need some wet weather protection. Both my soft
top & hard top need severe help. I have no storage garage at this time.
Living on West Camino Cielo in Santa Barbara has been great for the daily
drive and the morning & evening views.
However, I got complacent and left my hard top resting on top of, but not
attached on my car overnight.  Next day I found that gusty winds had taken
the top and bounced it 50 feet across our gravel covered parking lot, but
not down the cliff areas where I live.
 
The 45 year old Dynaplastics hardtop has split along several bond line/edges
and the newish rear window had popped out but not damaged.
There is an amazing amount of loose resin chunks rattling around inside the
hollow top portion now and I can get some of it to pour out an opening if I
stretch it far enough. (Hard to do while holding it in the right position by
yourself.)
 
I took it to a one man surfboard shop where a guy with a government
sponsored blinking ankle bracelet said he could re-bond it together for me
and even spray some foam up into it to insulate it if I wanted. But that I
would have to finish splitting the two halves apart so that he could clean
up the loose resin chunks and gently grind two new mating surfaces all
around to ensure a good job.
 
If I had the shop space I would probably do the whole job myself.
Or I could ask the ring where to take it, and who has all of the seals
needed to restore this lovely gem?
 
Walt Peterson
Santa Barbara
20R Street Racer
"Datsa 67"

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Sun Nov  4 20:58:20 2012
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 22:58:20 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Was there ever a stiffer isolator solution for our
 stock motor mounting?
In-Reply-To: <005201cdbacb$e74e05b0$b5ea1110$@cox.net>
References: <005201cdbacb$e74e05b0$b5ea1110$@cox.net>
Message-ID: <8CF8920ED6EFF89-B58-CEEE@webmail-m089.sysops.aol.com>

 Hi Walt,
I used the Prothane trannymount mentioned on 311 Tech section, it too gives me
a bit of vibration. I have stock motor mounts. Never knew anyone tried a
urethane motor mount. Why not?  I was wondering if drilling 1 or more holes
thru the tranny mount might "soften" it up a bit to allow it have more give. I
noticed it made the car feel tighter, but I don't like the vibration, which is
only a bit at about 40. There was also another mount mentioned for the tranny,
Anchor#### on the 311 site. Not sure how that option worked.
Might be alot of people interested in motor mounts if the vibration issue was
solved.

Linda





-----Original Message-----
From: Walter.Peterson <Walter.Peterson at cox.net>
To: datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2012 12:57 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Was there ever a stiffer isolator solution for our stock
motor mounting?


I searched back through my email ring archives and only found a few
discussions on this subject. (2010)
I'm hoping someone else has done all of the work already and can just email
me the link to success.

A few years back I started researching & finding a suitable replacements for
the stock isolators. I tried an isolator that was made by one of our Datsun
Parts vendors but unfortunately they ripped apart and were also
discontinued. So I went back to the stock super soft isolators.

This became a priority again when I recently bought a new set of sticky
tires (Falken Azenis rt-615k 14") and the motor/Mikuni air cleaner started
twisting up and hitting the brake master again. This doesn't happen as much
when your tires suck and BTW, no tire slippage makes you feel like the car
lost Horsepower!

I recently installed a modified set of those Prothane Jeep CJ5 mounts &
brackets to get it all to fit.  Its tight, but it works all too well. Still
using the stock trans mount.

Wow, the car works so much better! The shifting is so much tighter. It's
almost imposable to miss a shift going up or down. High speed drifting &
setup into the corners is far more predictable. Next thing I noticed was
that the Solexes needed that neglected second round of rebalancing due to
the replacement of the broken throttle linkage 6 months ago.

Now the downside. It's got severe chassis & dash area vibrations from idle
~1000 RPM up to 2700 RPM, then it goes away. Its vibration free from 2800 to
8000 RPM. Another round of tuning/syncing on the carbs will likely help some
more on the bottom end, but the basic physics of a 4 cylinder engine is why
there are isolation dampers on motor mounts. It also turns out that the
specifications for most of the isolators I've looked at have absorption
(resonate damping) values around  2500 Hz.

Another upside was discovering that the outside fresh air cowl vent cover is
one of the vibrating culprits, as well as the SS vent level interior plate
on the heater console. The door wing wings are also taking notable exception
to getting vibe tested and something under the instrument panel is
complaining. It's not the wiper arm or anything else I can reach on the
driver side either.

A few more options.
I can go get the stock Jeep rubber mount, now that the trick one was fitted.
Probably too stiff as well but maybe fine.
Find & use the Chevy mount mentioned back in the 2010 archive.

The 510 mounts were actually pretty good back when I raced. Now that I've
modified a set of brackets for a center single bolt, I could try them &
maybe even put some travel limiting set screws in their little built-in stop
brackets.

**** Making a new isolator. ****
I started a dialog with a custom Urethane vendor in LA who has agreed to
make us something. I say us, because making just a few sets for just me, may
be cost prohibitive.

I'm hoping someone else has done all of the work already and can just email
me the link to success.

Walt Peterson
Santa Barbara
20R Street Racer
"Datsa 67"
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From nalevine at dcn.org  Mon Nov  5 00:02:51 2012
From: nalevine at dcn.org (Neil Levine)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 23:02:51 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Camber and Caster
Message-ID: <002001cdbb23$927a9910$b76fcb30$@org>

Calling all suspension experts!
I'm having to change out the upper A arm spindle on the passenger side of my
'66 1600.  Can anyone explain how the caster/camber adjustment works with
the shims?  There are 2 different parts shown in the Datsun service manual
front suspension drawing (items 45 (shim- camber) and 47 (shim-caster,
rear)) which are stacked together under the same bolt.  How can one be for
camber and the other be for caster when they are just stacked together in
the same spot?  I just don't get it.  Does anyone have a simple explanation?

Neil

From graemes at internode.on.net  Mon Nov  5 00:40:30 2012
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling)
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 18:10:30 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] Camber and Caster
In-Reply-To: <002001cdbb23$927a9910$b76fcb30$@org>
References: <002001cdbb23$927a9910$b76fcb30$@org>
Message-ID: <50976D6E.4030401@internode.on.net>

My explanation is, don't worry about it!
Just put back what you take out and let your wheel aligner sort it out;-)

Regards,
Graeme Suckling
http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza
Adelaide
South Australia.

On 5/11/2012 5:32 PM, Neil Levine wrote:
> Calling all suspension experts!
> I'm having to change out the upper A arm spindle on the passenger side of my
> '66 1600.  Can anyone explain how the caster/camber adjustment works with
> the shims?  There are 2 different parts shown in the Datsun service manual
> front suspension drawing (items 45 (shim- camber) and 47 (shim-caster,
> rear)) which are stacked together under the same bolt.  How can one be for
> camber and the other be for caster when they are just stacked together in
> the same spot?  I just don't get it.  Does anyone have a simple explanation?
>
> Neil
> ________________________________________

From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Mon Nov  5 04:41:38 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 06:41:38 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Camber and Caster
In-Reply-To: <50976D6E.4030401@internode.on.net>
References: <002001cdbb23$927a9910$b76fcb30$@org>
	<50976D6E.4030401@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEtB39KHWs98SxBvAHSmkK6pkehABWeYGzGn0m=3DigcMA@mail.gmail.com>

Graeme,

  My secret is out!

  My alignment guy had fits getting my roadster just right, but I left it
all up to him.  Cost me a whopping $39.95.  But that was back in 1997, so
it may cost a bit more these days.

Paul
Ohio
'69 1600


On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 2:40 AM, Graeme Suckling <graemes at internode.on.net>wrote:

> My explanation is, don't worry about it!
> Just put back what you take out and let your wheel aligner sort it out;-)
>
> Regards,
> Graeme Suckling
> http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza
> Adelaide
> South Australia.
>
>
> On 5/11/2012 5:32 PM, Neil Levine wrote:
>
>> Calling all suspension experts!
>> I'm having to change out the upper A arm spindle on the passenger side of
>> my
>> '66 1600.  Can anyone explain how the caster/camber adjustment works with
>> the shims?  There are 2 different parts shown in the Datsun service manual
>> front suspension drawing (items 45 (shim- camber) and 47 (shim-caster,
>> rear)) which are stacked together under the same bolt.  How can one be for
>> camber and the other be for caster when they are just stacked together in
>> the same spot?  I just don't get it.  Does anyone have a simple
>> explanation?
>>
>> Neil
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From pat at hornesystemstx.com  Mon Nov  5 06:51:51 2012
From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 07:51:51 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Camber and Caster
In-Reply-To: <002001cdbb23$927a9910$b76fcb30$@org>
References: <002001cdbb23$927a9910$b76fcb30$@org>
Message-ID: <5097C477.2010903@hornesystemstx.com>

Camber is adjusted by putting the same height pack of shims behind both 
ends of the upper shaft, adjusting the top ball joint in and out in 
relation to the frame.

Caster is set by adding shims to only one bolt to swing the top ball 
joint front to back.

I didn't know that there were different shims for each. When I worked in 
a front end shop we used the same shims for both. Possible the shims are 
of different thicknesses?

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Neil Levine
> Calling all suspension experts!
> I'm having to change out the upper A arm spindle on the passenger side of my
> '66 1600.  Can anyone explain how the caster/camber adjustment works with
> the shims?  There are 2 different parts shown in the Datsun service manual
> front suspension drawing (items 45 (shim- camber) and 47 (shim-caster,
> rear)) which are stacked together under the same bolt.  How can one be for
> camber and the other be for caster when they are just stacked together in
> the same spot?  I just don't get it.  Does anyone have a simple explanation?
>
> Neil
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From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Mon Nov  5 07:34:10 2012
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS))
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 14:34:10 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters]  Where to repair my hard top?
Message-ID: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F66021070B9@XMBC3087.northgrum.com>

Walt,
Send me pics of the hardtop.  I can do it for you for minimal cost.
For the interim you might be able to borrow/rent one while the work gets done,
so your car doesn't get soaked, but I can get that work done (heavily
supervised) by my happy band of junior college students who are learning
fiberglass fab and repair.
(some in order to avoid the life choices which result in  wardrobe choices
which involve the "government sponsored blinking ankle bracelet")

I have a hardtop but it is high window, so won't work.

Offer the "renter" (interim top provider) the following, see if this sounds
like a decent proposition:

1.       Drive down and drop off your top with me.

2.       Swing by their place and put on the interim top. (drive home, in your
case preferably  via Tepesquet & Foxen Canyon Road....)

3.       When I am done with your top, drive down and pick up the new one, and
drop off the interim top.

4.       For the price of the paint I'll re-spray the new one. (my students
need practice doing good prep & spray jobs)  I sprayed one for Stan and if I
remember correct a quart kit would have painted like 4 hardtops, and I think I
did 3 coats.

For seals I'd suggest the vendors, or the local Hot Rod Swap Meet. (I go to
the one in Long Beach, maybe one in Santa Maria, or maybe combine the top
drop-off with the Swap Meet date, I can show you the messiest garage space in
a First World countryy!)
The "rubber extrusion" guy is there, bring cross sections of your old ones to
match up, they sell by the foot pretty cheap.

I'll PM the email address to send pics.

Fergus O
Los Alamitos, CA
69 2000  (with the LONGEST timing chains in the westerrrr-rrr-rrrn states)

From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net  Mon Nov  5 07:46:39 2012
From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 07:46:39 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [Roadsters] Camber and Caster
Message-ID: <20695409.1352126799651.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I totally agree.  After rebuilding my front end last winter I took it to the best alignment shop in town.  The car now tracks, steers, turns like a race car.  I think the key is, do not let the run of the mill shop touch your hard work, go to the best you can find. 

BTW, he charged me $99.00 for over 2 hours hard work.  I think he enjoyed the challenge of working on a clean classic.      

Good luck, Dewey 

-----Original Message-----
>From: Graeme Suckling <graemes at internode.on.net>
>Sent: Nov 5, 2012 12:40 AM
>To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Camber and Caster
>
>My explanation is, don't worry about it!
>Just put back what you take out and let your wheel aligner sort it out;-)
>
>Regards,
>Graeme Suckling
>http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza
>Adelaide
>South Australia.
>
>On 5/11/2012 5:32 PM, Neil Levine wrote:
>> Calling all suspension experts!
>> I'm having to change out the upper A arm spindle on the passenger side of my
>> '66 1600.  Can anyone explain how the caster/camber adjustment works with
>> the shims?  There are 2 different parts shown in the Datsun service manual
>> front suspension drawing (items 45 (shim- camber) and 47 (shim-caster,
>> rear)) which are stacked together under the same bolt.  How can one be for
>> camber and the other be for caster when they are just stacked together in
>> the same spot?  I just don't get it.  Does anyone have a simple explanation?
>>
>> Neil
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From jsk977 at optonline.net  Mon Nov  5 07:57:43 2012
From: jsk977 at optonline.net (Jerry Krakauer)
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 09:57:43 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Camber and Caster
In-Reply-To: <002001cdbb23$927a9910$b76fcb30$@org>
References: <002001cdbb23$927a9910$b76fcb30$@org>
Message-ID: <002a01cdbb65$e91bd9e0$bb538da0$@net>

Camber is set using an equal number of shims on both bolts, caster by an odd
number on front and rear bolt. The shims are usually interchangeable on any
car using upper and lower A arms and available at any alignment shop,
although with all the strut suspensions around, not used nearly as much
these days. BTW, the bolts had a tendency to loosen and the shims could drop
out. We used to use washers instead, but it meant having to remove the bolts
completely to install.

Jerry krakauer
SRL311 00099

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Neil Levine
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 2:03 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Camber and Caster

Calling all suspension experts!
I'm having to change out the upper A arm spindle on the passenger side of my
'66 1600.  Can anyone explain how the caster/camber adjustment works with
the shims?  There are 2 different parts shown in the Datsun service manual
front suspension drawing (items 45 (shim- camber) and 47 (shim-caster,
rear)) which are stacked together under the same bolt.  How can one be for
camber and the other be for caster when they are just stacked together in
the same spot?  I just don't get it.  Does anyone have a simple explanation?

Neil
________________________________________

From RWM at RWMann.com  Mon Nov  5 08:22:24 2012
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 10:22:24 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Camber and Caster
In-Reply-To: <20695409.1352126799651.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <20695409.1352126799651.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <5097D9B0.2030207@RWMann.com>

Excellent advice that applies to any vehicle.

After watching the cr*ppy by design McPherson front suspension of a 
Dodge Grand Caravan chew up tires for a decade, I took it to a local 
hobbyist alignment shop who put it on the rack as a project to dialit in 
to "perfect", including toe and camber accommodations for wider than OEM 
rubber.

I am kicking myself for failing to do that ten years ago.

- Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex (thankfully, undamagedthrough superstorm Sandy)



On 11/5/2012 9:46 AM, Dewey Hahlbohm wrote:
> I totally agree.  After rebuilding my front end last winter I took it to the best alignment shop in town.  The car now tracks, steers, turns like a race car.  I think the key is, do not let the run of the mill shop touch your hard work, go to the best you can find.
>
> BTW, he charged me $99.00 for over 2 hours hard work.  I think he enjoyed the challenge of working on a clean classic.
>
> Good luck, Dewey
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Graeme Suckling <graemes at internode.on.net>
>> Sent: Nov 5, 2012 12:40 AM
>> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Camber and Caster
>>
>> My explanation is, don't worry about it!
>> Just put back what you take out and let your wheel aligner sort it out;-)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Graeme Suckling
>> http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza
>> Adelaide
>> South Australia.
>>
>> On 5/11/2012 5:32 PM, Neil Levine wrote:
>>> Calling all suspension experts!
>>> I'm having to change out the upper A arm spindle on the passenger side of my
>>> '66 1600.  Can anyone explain how the caster/camber adjustment works with
>>> the shims?  There are 2 different parts shown in the Datsun service manual
>>> front suspension drawing (items 45 (shim- camber) and 47 (shim-caster,
>>> rear)) which are stacked together under the same bolt.  How can one be for
>>> camber and the other be for caster when they are just stacked together in
>>> the same spot?  I just don't get it.  Does anyone have a simple explanation?
>>>
>>> Neil

From hrhaslett at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  5 15:33:53 2012
From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 14:33:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1967 1600  EARLY fender
In-Reply-To: <212218732209315448@-212218732209315449>
References: <212218732209315448@-212218732209315449>
Message-ID: <1352154833.16559.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Hey All,
Below is a fender I have to sell.  Let me know if anyone is
interested.  Drivers side with headlight and parking light buckets.  Thanks
Roy

----- Forwarded Message -----
From: "9492467489 at vzwpix.com"
<9492467489 at vzwpix.com>
To: hrhaslett at yahoo.com 
Sent: Saturday, November 3,
2012 12:50 PM
Subject: Datsun fender

Datsun fender

From hrhaslett at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  5 16:06:48 2012
From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 15:06:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Aluminum radiators on eBay (was "I remember
 when....")
In-Reply-To: <1409711056.1193168.1351830725403.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1351819785.4208.YahooMailRC@web184802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<1409711056.1193168.1351830725403.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1352156808.23596.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

I bought a 2 row one about a year and a half ago for my early 67
1600, Champion brand, for $189.  It came in with pretty sloppy welds and the
tubes on the upper tank that go to the thermostat housing and expansion tank
were nearly welded closed and had to be drilled out.  It did install easily
and the brackets all lined up, however the threads on it were different for
the shroud stock hardware.  They work but I think I prefer a stock radiator
with a 3 row core.
Roy


________________________________
From: Pete Peters
<ppeters914 at comcast.net>
To: Datsun Roadster List
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 9:32 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Aluminum radiators on eBay (was "I remember when....")

I
don't remember if they were discussed here on the list, but there's a thread
or two on the 311s.org forum. 

Pete 

----- Original Message ----- 
From:
"steven boortz" <vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com> 
To: "roadsters"
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 6:29:45 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] I remember when.... 

I didn't have to wade through 35
political emails, to get to the one about 
Roadsters. 

I haven't driven mine
in awhile, since it sprung a radiator leak. anyone else 
buy one of those
aluminum radiators from eBay? how do you like it? price seems 
right. 

s
675MIZU 
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From aultgc at att.net  Mon Nov  5 19:29:41 2012
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 20:29:41 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Camber and Caster
References: <002001cdbb23$927a9910$b76fcb30$@org><50976D6E.4030401@internode.on.net>
	<CAFEMhEtB39KHWs98SxBvAHSmkK6pkehABWeYGzGn0m=3DigcMA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <03167C3A750C4B45A5119075EA1B7520@gaxp1>

If you can find anyone who knows how to work with shim adjustments....

Gary
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Kort" <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
To: "Graeme Suckling" <graemes at internode.on.net>
Cc: "Roadster Stuff" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 5:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Camber and Caster


> Graeme,
>
>  My secret is out!
>
>  My alignment guy had fits getting my roadster just right, but I left it
> all up to him.  Cost me a whopping $39.95.  But that was back in 1997, so
> it may cost a bit more these days.
>
> Paul
> Ohio
> '69 1600
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 2:40 AM, Graeme Suckling 
> <graemes at internode.on.net>wrote:
>
>> My explanation is, don't worry about it!
>> Just put back what you take out and let your wheel aligner sort it out;-)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Graeme Suckling
>> http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza
>> Adelaide
>> South Australia.
>>
>>
>> On 5/11/2012 5:32 PM, Neil Levine wrote:
>>
>>> Calling all suspension experts!
>>> I'm having to change out the upper A arm spindle on the passenger side 
>>> of
>>> my
>>> '66 1600.  Can anyone explain how the caster/camber adjustment works 
>>> with
>>> the shims?  There are 2 different parts shown in the Datsun service 
>>> manual
>>> front suspension drawing (items 45 (shim- camber) and 47 (shim-caster,
>>> rear)) which are stacked together under the same bolt.  How can one be 
>>> for
>>> camber and the other be for caster when they are just stacked together 
>>> in
>>> the same spot?  I just don't get it.  Does anyone have a simple
>>> explanation?
>>>
>>> Neil
>>> ______________________________**__________
>>>
>> ______________________________**__________
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From lousailor at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  5 20:51:43 2012
From: lousailor at yahoo.com (Louie Partida)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 19:51:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Aluminum radiators on eBay (was "I remember
 when....")
In-Reply-To: <1352156808.23596.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1351819785.4208.YahooMailRC@web184802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<1409711056.1193168.1351830725403.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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My son popped in an aluminum two row from champion.  Great price, fit well and
came with a electric fan so we lost the metal engine driven fan, which kept
him from overheating the stroker motor in stop and go traffic.
 
Louie
________________________________
 From: Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
To:
Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net>; Datsun Roadster List
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Aluminum radiators on eBay (was "I remember
when....")
  
I bought a 2 row one about a year and a half ago for my early 67
1600, Champion brand, for $189.  It came in with pretty sloppy welds and the
tubes on the upper tank that go to the thermostat housing and expansion tank
were nearly welded closed and had to be drilled out.  It did install easily
and the brackets all lined up, however the threads on it were different for
the shroud stock hardware.  They work but I think I prefer a stock radiator
with a 3 row core.
Roy


________________________________
From: Pete Peters
<ppeters914 at comcast.net>
To: Datsun Roadster List
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 9:32 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Aluminum radiators on eBay (was "I remember when....")

I
don't remember if they were discussed here on the list, but there's a thread
or two on the 311s.org forum. 

Pete 

----- Original Message ----- 
From:
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To: "roadsters"
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Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 6:29:45 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] I remember when.... 

I didn't have to wade through 35
political emails, to get to the one about 
Roadsters. 

I haven't driven mine
in awhile, since it sprung a radiator leak. anyone else 
buy one of those
aluminum radiators from eBay? how do you like it? price seems 
right. 

s
675MIZU 
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From lousailor at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  5 20:53:10 2012
From: lousailor at yahoo.com (Louie Partida)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 19:53:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1967 1600  EARLY fender
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Do you have a picture? The boy found a ditch and we may need to replace.
 
Louie
C - (757) 375-4042
 

________________________________
 From: Roy
Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
To: Datsun Owners List
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 5:33 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] 1967 1600  EARLY fender
  
Hey All,
Below is a fender I
have to sell.  Let me know if anyone is
interested.  Drivers side with
headlight and parking light buckets.  Thanks
Roy

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Subject: Datsun
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From tom at datsun2000.com  Mon Nov  5 21:35:01 2012
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen)
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 20:35:01 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Camber and Caster
Message-ID: <50989375.1030903@datsun2000.com>

I did this repair last spring and did not notice the shims when I took 
the first side apart.   On the first side they fell into the pocket in 
the frame just below the bolts and I did not see them.  I have not had 
the car to an alignment shop and so far it drives just as it did before 
the repair.  I will get it in once I find a shop that can set the 
adjustments I tell them I want.  I work for a car dealership and their 
modern alignment equipment had no idea about what my car was let alone 
how to set it up.  When you look for a shop be sure they can configure 
their alignment machine to the parameters you specify, which you can 
find in the archives of this e-mail list, or probably on 311s.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Las Vegas
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http://www.nowroc.org


On 11/4/2012 11:02:51 PM, Neil Levine (nalevine at dcn.org) wrote:
 > Calling all suspension experts!
 > I'm having to change out the upper A arm spindle on the passenger 
side of my
 > '66 1600. Can anyone explain how the caster/camber adjustment works with
 > the shims? There are 2 different parts shown in the Datsun service manual
 > front suspension drawing (items 45 (shim- camber) and 47 (shim-caster,
 > rear)) which are stacked together under the same bolt. How can one be for
 > camber and the other be for caster when they are just stacked together in
 > the same spot? I just don't get it. Does anyone have a simple 
explanation?
 >
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From davidbentz at gmail.com  Tue Nov  6 18:09:13 2012
From: davidbentz at gmail.com (David Bentz)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 20:09:13 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Re:  East Coast 411 SSS
In-Reply-To: <00689501C66C18FE35E712DA6D1E1F6028F4AAA4@WIN-K7HT03THABC>
References: <00689501C66C18FE35E712DA6D1E1F6028F4AAA4@WIN-K7HT03THABC>
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Looks like even Kayla is a roadster fan!!L

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: *Kayla*
Date: Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Subject: Re: Re: [Roadsters] East Coast 411 SSS
To: davidbentz <davidbentz at gmail.com>


A reply back that is readable and makes sense lol. I may faint lol. You
wouldn't even believe the crazy pictures I am getting of guys junk lol i
wasnt really looking for anything too serious.. ;) just looking for fun.
ill attach a pic! if u wanna meet let me know..

I am sending this off my phone so I am having a hard time seeing if it is
going through or not. It keeps giving me an error!

-Kayla

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 017.jpg]

From stevenehlers at charter.net  Wed Nov  7 17:54:07 2012
From: stevenehlers at charter.net (stevenehlers at charter.net)
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 19:54:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 4, Issue 321
Message-ID: <76a951ee.655a.13add827ec7.Webtop.48@charter.net>

Hey ,
  I'm Now sure that the Roadster Forum has been hacked !!! I was talking 
about this via email with Steven Bortz last week .
If anything is posted to the forum you will get invitations for sex from 
a solicitor that is on Craig's list .

The Moderator needs to look into the problem .
  Steve


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wrote:

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> Looks like even Kayla is a roadster fan!!L
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Kayla*
> Date: Tuesday, November 6, 2012
> Subject: Re: Re: [Roadsters] East Coast 411 SSS
> To: davidbentz <davidbentz at gmail.com>
>
>
> A reply back that is readable and makes sense lol. I may faint lol. 
> You
> wouldn't even believe the crazy pictures I am getting of guys junk lol 
> i
> wasnt really looking for anything too serious.. ;) just looking for 
> fun.
> ill attach a pic! if u wanna meet let me know..
>
> I am sending this off my phone so I am having a hard time seeing if it 
> is
> going through or not. It keeps giving me an error!
>
> -Kayla
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a 
> name of 017.jpg]
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From chalsted at comcast.net  Fri Nov  9 04:55:32 2012
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 11:55:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] SR20 question
Message-ID: <1057951044.935791.1352462132304.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

I have a chance to pick up a 200sx SR20DE engine, it's front wheel drive setup- should I pass? what trans will I have to get hold of to hook up to it I want to swap it into a roadster? 
thanks, 
Craig 

From futofab at gsinet.net  Fri Nov  9 06:20:55 2012
From: futofab at gsinet.net (David Patten)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 08:20:55 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] SR20 question
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Craig,
The bellhousing bolt pattern on the FWD SR20 block is unique to the FWD
transmission and there is no RWD transmission that will attach to it
easily. Years ago I made a small run of adapters to mate the FWD SR engine
to an L series transmission, but these are all gone.

Another issue with the FWD SR engine is the distributor location. It
projects off the flywheel end of the head and cannot be used without
firewall modifications in most RWD installs.

The short story, a FWD SR20 engine does not easily work for a RWD
installation.
-- 
Dave Patten, Owner

FutoFab, LLC
199 Stark Hwy So
Dunbarton, NH 03046

Website - www.FutoFab.com <http://www.futofab.com/>
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On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 6:55 AM, <chalsted at comcast.net> wrote:

> I have a chance to pick up a 200sx SR20DE engine, it's front wheel drive
> setup- should I pass? what trans will I have to get hold of to hook up to
> it I want to swap it into a roadster?
> thanks,
> Craig
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 19:54:07 -0500 (EST)
From: stevenehlers at charter.net
To: davidbentz at gmail.com
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 4, Issue 321
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Hey ,
  I'm Now sure that the Roadster Forum has been hacked !!! I was talking 
about this via email with Steven Bortz last week .
If anything is posted to the forum you will get invitations for sex from 
a solicitor that is on Craig's list .

The Moderator needs to look into the problem .
  Steve


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> Looks like even Kayla is a roadster fan!!L
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Kayla*
> Date: Tuesday, November 6, 2012
> Subject: Re: Re: [Roadsters] East Coast 411 SSS
> To: davidbentz <davidbentz at gmail.com>
>
>
> A reply back that is readable and makes sense lol. I may faint lol. 
> You
> wouldn't even believe the crazy pictures I am getting of guys junk lol 
> i
> wasnt really looking for anything too serious.. ;) just looking for 
> fun.
> ill attach a pic! if u wanna meet let me know..
>
> I am sending this off my phone so I am having a hard time seeing if it 
> is
> going through or not. It keeps giving me an error!
>
> -Kayla
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a 
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From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Fri Nov  9 15:10:27 2012
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 16:10:27 -0600
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From BARTERDUDE at aol.com  Mon Nov 12 12:29:02 2012
From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:29:02 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] One of the Originals for Sale
Message-ID: <12d77.1f6e1a9.3dd2a7fe@aol.com>

Before someone else beats me to the punch about this listing, here it  is, 
I have decided to sale my 1963 Single Carb Fairlady Roadster.
 
_https://post.craigslist.org/manage/3404758054_ 
(https://post.craigslist.org/manage/3404758054) 
 
This is one of the originals and would be a great addition to anyone who  
truly appreciates Datsun.  If you know any dealers or overseas enthusiasts  
that would be interested, please share the listing.  I do have a prepared  
PDF I can send with the same description and pictures if that works  better.
 
Gary Lasater  - Parker CO
founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/)  / 
_www.ZRoad.org_ (http://www.zroad.org/)  
1963 SPL310-00161C (Single  Carb)
1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) FOR SALE
1964  SPL310-01289
1967  SPL311-09144

From wchmch at aol.com  Mon Nov 12 12:33:34 2012
From: wchmch at aol.com (William Haney)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:33:34 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] One of the Originals for Sale
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Would love to see this, but can't get the link to work. Thanks.



On Nov 12, 2012, at 2:29 PM, BARTERDUDE at aol.com wrote:

> Before someone else beats me to the punch about this listing, here it  is,
> I have decided to sale my 1963 Single Carb Fairlady Roadster.
>
> _https://post.craigslist.org/manage/3404758054_
> (https://post.craigslist.org/manage/3404758054)
>
> This is one of the originals and would be a great addition to anyone who
> truly appreciates Datsun.  If you know any dealers or overseas enthusiasts
> that would be interested, please share the listing.  I do have a prepared
> PDF I can send with the same description and pictures if that works
better.
>
> Gary Lasater  - Parker CO
> founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/)  /
> _www.ZRoad.org_ (http://www.zroad.org/)
> 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single  Carb)
> 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) FOR SALE
> 1964  SPL310-01289
> 1967  SPL311-09144
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>
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From mark at dealermats.com  Mon Nov 12 12:35:28 2012
From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:35:28 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] One of the Originals for Sale
In-Reply-To: <12d77.1f6e1a9.3dd2a7fe@aol.com>
References: <12d77.1f6e1a9.3dd2a7fe@aol.com>
Message-ID: <016A2AA8-844D-4ACB-8084-AC388BF88FDE@dealermats.com>

Correct link to the Ad


http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/3404758054.html



On Nov 12, 2012, at 2:29 PM, BARTERDUDE at aol.com wrote:

> Before someone else beats me to the punch about this listing, here it  is,
> I have decided to sale my 1963 Single Carb Fairlady Roadster.
>
> _https://post.craigslist.org/manage/3404758054_
> (https://post.craigslist.org/manage/3404758054)
>
> This is one of the originals and would be a great addition to anyone who
> truly appreciates Datsun.  If you know any dealers or overseas enthusiasts
> that would be interested, please share the listing.  I do have a prepared
> PDF I can send with the same description and pictures if that works
better.
>
> Gary Lasater  - Parker CO
> founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/)  /
> _www.ZRoad.org_ (http://www.zroad.org/)
> 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single  Carb)
> 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) FOR SALE
> 1964  SPL310-01289
> 1967  SPL311-09144
> ________________________________________
>
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>
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From BARTERDUDE at aol.com  Mon Nov 12 16:08:57 2012
From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:08:57 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] One of the Originals for Sale
Message-ID: <4d17f.699feadd.3dd2db89@aol.com>

Thanks Mark - 
 
Guess I was multi-tasking.  Glad you found the correct link for the  group.
 
Gary Lasater
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/12/2012 12:35:37 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
mark at dealermats.com writes:

http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/3404758054.html

From Walter.Peterson at cox.net  Tue Nov 13 02:14:13 2012
From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter.Peterson)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 01:14:13 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] I broke my Vintage Comp sway bar.
Message-ID: <017901cdc17f$3fcded40$bf69c7c0$@cox.net>

Besides needing 2 new tops I also need a new front bar.
 
I've been driving without a front sway bar for a month now & hate it, its
way to squirrely!
Besides buying new from Datsun Parts which is ok really, anyone else want to
share their good fortune?
Where else can I get a good used or new front competition front sway bar? 
 
I broke it on the tightest downhill drop-away corkscrew turn you'll ever
see. I drive it every day, and the frontend unicycles around it. Yes, the
right front wheel is hanging in the air every time unless I want to drive on
the wrong side of the road.
 
Thank you in advance,
 
Walt Peterson
Santa Barbara
20R Street Racer
"Datsa 67"

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Tue Nov 13 08:13:04 2012
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 07:13:04 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] I broke my Vintage Comp sway bar.
In-Reply-To: <017901cdc17f$3fcded40$bf69c7c0$@cox.net>
References: <017901cdc17f$3fcded40$bf69c7c0$@cox.net>
Message-ID: <5ED4441D-D937-4CE3-99EE-AC1B19417536@netscape.net>

You can post a request on 311 under Classified Wanted.

Linda

Sent from my iPod

On Nov 13, 2012, at 1:14 AM, "Walter.Peterson" <Walter.Peterson at cox.net>
wrote:

> Besides needing 2 new tops I also need a new front bar.
>
> I've been driving without a front sway bar for a month now & hate it, its
> way to squirrely!
> Besides buying new from Datsun Parts which is ok really, anyone else want
to
> share their good fortune?
> Where else can I get a good used or new front competition front sway bar?
>
> I broke it on the tightest downhill drop-away corkscrew turn you'll ever
> see. I drive it every day, and the frontend unicycles around it. Yes, the
> right front wheel is hanging in the air every time unless I want to drive
on
> the wrong side of the road.
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> Walt Peterson
> Santa Barbara
> 20R Street Racer
> "Datsa 67"
> ________________________________________
>
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>
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From jh.bahn at verizon.net  Tue Nov 13 11:14:31 2012
From: jh.bahn at verizon.net (jh.bahn at verizon.net)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:14:31 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] I broke my Vintage Comp sway bar.
In-Reply-To: <017901cdc17f$3fcded40$bf69c7c0$@cox.net>
References: <017901cdc17f$3fcded40$bf69c7c0$@cox.net>
Message-ID: <637EBA966B4F46D0AD730363628F75CB@BahnTHINK>

Walt - I have one.  Do you need brackets/bushings?
JH Bahn

-----Original Message----- 
From: Walter.Peterson
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 4:14 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] I broke my Vintage Comp sway bar.

Besides needing 2 new tops I also need a new front bar.

I've been driving without a front sway bar for a month now & hate it, its
way to squirrely!
Besides buying new from Datsun Parts which is ok really, anyone else want to
share their good fortune?
Where else can I get a good used or new front competition front sway bar?

I broke it on the tightest downhill drop-away corkscrew turn you'll ever
see. I drive it every day, and the frontend unicycles around it. Yes, the
right front wheel is hanging in the air every time unless I want to drive on
the wrong side of the road.

Thank you in advance,

Walt Peterson
Santa Barbara
20R Street Racer
"Datsa 67"
________________________________________

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From vulforge at aol.com  Wed Nov 14 15:19:28 2012
From: vulforge at aol.com (vulforge at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 17:19:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Gear reduction starter
In-Reply-To: <b322f927-5502-4e8f-99b7-34ff005a29b6@mail.android.htc.com>
References: <b322f927-5502-4e8f-99b7-34ff005a29b6@mail.android.htc.com>
Message-ID: <8CF90CD3E58730C-1BA0-9556@webmail-d064.sysops.aol.com>

Russell Criswell
Vulcan's Forge
3936 Broadway
Kansas City, MO
64111

816-931-6303
816-931-9378 fax
877-531-1046 toll-free
www.vulcans-forge.com



-----Original Message-----
From: vulforge <vulforge at aol.com>
To: datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at team.net>
Sent: Tue, Nov 13, 2012 8:53 pm
Subject: Gear reduction starter


I need to replace the starter in my early 67.  Has anyone used the gear
reduction replacement from the fork trucks?  It looks different; there is no
nose bushing.  Does it bolt right up?  Is it short enough to get in past the
exhaust?  Would love to hear from experience.

Russell Criswell
Vulcan's Forge
3936 Broadway
Kansas City, MO 64111
816-931-6303
www.vulcans-forge.com

From stephen.holst at randrglobal.com  Wed Nov 14 15:49:57 2012
From: stephen.holst at randrglobal.com (Stephen Holst)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:49:57 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Gear reduction starter
In-Reply-To: <8CF90CD3E58730C-1BA0-9556@webmail-d064.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <CCC99855.3E4C%stephen.holst@randrglobal.com>

Works great on a 68 2000.  Has better clearance with respect to exhaust than
stock.  Seems to spin the engine faster  so starts pretty quick
Steve


On 11/14/12 6:19 PM, "vulforge at aol.com" <vulforge at aol.com> wrote:

> Russell Criswell
> Vulcan's Forge
> 3936 Broadway
> Kansas City, MO
> 64111
> 
> 816-931-6303
> 816-931-9378 fax
> 877-531-1046 toll-free
> www.vulcans-forge.com
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vulforge <vulforge at aol.com>
> To: datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at team.net>
> Sent: Tue, Nov 13, 2012 8:53 pm
> Subject: Gear reduction starter
> 
> 
> I need to replace the starter in my early 67.  Has anyone used the gear
> reduction replacement from the fork trucks?  It looks different; there is no
> nose bushing.  Does it bolt right up?  Is it short enough to get in past the
> exhaust?  Would love to hear from experience.
> 
> Russell Criswell
> Vulcan's Forge
> 3936 Broadway
> Kansas City, MO 64111
> 816-931-6303
> www.vulcans-forge.com
> ________________________________________
> 
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> 
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> al.com

From sandhoff at csus.edu  Wed Nov 14 17:18:28 2012
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:18:28 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Gear reduction starter
In-Reply-To: <CCC99855.3E4C%stephen.holst@randrglobal.com>
References: <8CF90CD3E58730C-1BA0-9556@webmail-d064.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <50A3C454.8403.197A1B2@localhost>

Q:
> Has anyone used the gear reduction replacement from the fork trucks?

A:
> Works great on a 68 2000...

But... which specific starter? There's several listed for the forklifts,
as I recall some are 8 tooth and some are 9 tooth. So does someone
have the Nissan part number of the 'best fit' for our cars?

Seems the wrong size gear will, over time, chew up the ring gear.
Non-trivial to replace, if that happens...

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Nov 14 17:46:09 2012
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 00:46:09 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Gear reduction starter
In-Reply-To: <50A3C454.8403.197A1B2@localhost>
References: <8CF90CD3E58730C-1BA0-9556@webmail-d064.sysops.aol.com>
	<50A3C454.8403.197A1B2@localhost>
Message-ID: <333712524-1352940371-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-951896128-@b4.c20.bise6.blackberry>

IIRC, this is discussed on 311s.org.

Sorry, texting and driving, so cannot search. 

Pete 
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: John F Sandhoff <sandhoff at csus.edu>
Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:18:28 
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Gear reduction starter

Q:
> Has anyone used the gear reduction replacement from the fork trucks?

A:
> Works great on a 68 2000...

But... which specific starter? There's several listed for the forklifts,
as I recall some are 8 tooth and some are 9 tooth. So does someone
have the Nissan part number of the 'best fit' for our cars?

Seems the wrong size gear will, over time, chew up the ring gear.
Non-trivial to replace, if that happens...

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Nov 14 19:20:13 2012
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 02:20:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Gear reduction starter
In-Reply-To: <333712524-1352940371-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-951896128-@b4.c20.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <1511395812.187269.1352946013097.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Yup. Here's the link: 

http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.ForkliftStarter 

----- Original Message -----
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net 
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:46:09 PM 
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Gear reduction starter 

IIRC, this is discussed on 311s.org. 

Sorry, texting and driving, so cannot search. 

Pete 
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T 

-----Original Message----- 
From: John F Sandhoff <sandhoff at csus.edu> 
Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:18:28 
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Gear reduction starter 

Q: 
> Has anyone used the gear reduction replacement from the fork trucks? 

A: 
> Works great on a 68 2000... 

But... which specific starter? There's several listed for the forklifts, 
as I recall some are 8 tooth and some are 9 tooth. So does someone 
have the Nissan part number of the 'best fit' for our cars? 

Seems the wrong size gear will, over time, chew up the ring gear. 
Non-trivial to replace, if that happens... 

-- John 
John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA 
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Wed Nov 14 19:44:38 2012
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:44:38 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Gear reduction starter
In-Reply-To: <1511395812.187269.1352946013097.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1511395812.187269.1352946013097.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <2961EB3D-BC68-420D-AEB3-8E7347EA9D96@netscape.net>

I got this one from Ebay as suggested on 311. Works well.
. DB Electrical
Starter-Alternator Item #13338474
NISSAN TCM FORKLIFT LIFT TRUCK STARTER NEW A15 H20 H30 SMT0003
Price: $72.00
Quantity: 1
Inventory SKU: SMT0003
$72 + $12 UPS Ground shipping.

Linda

Sent from my iPod

On Nov 14, 2012, at 6:20 PM, Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Yup. Here's the link:
>
> http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.ForkliftStarter
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ppeters914 at comcast.net
> To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:46:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Gear reduction starter
>
> IIRC, this is discussed on 311s.org.
>
> Sorry, texting and driving, so cannot search.
>
> Pete
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John F Sandhoff <sandhoff at csus.edu>
> Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Wed, 14 Nov 2012
16:18:28
> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Gear reduction starter
>
> Q:
>> Has anyone used the gear reduction replacement from the fork trucks?
>
> A:
>> Works great on a 68 2000...
>
> But... which specific starter? There's several listed for the forklifts,
> as I recall some are 8 tooth and some are 9 tooth. So does someone
> have the Nissan part number of the 'best fit' for our cars?
>
> Seems the wrong size gear will, over time, chew up the ring gear.
> Non-trivial to replace, if that happens...
>
> -- John
> John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA
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>
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From datsunpartsdotcom at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 20 16:31:19 2012
From: datsunpartsdotcom at yahoo.com (DatsunParts.com, Inc.)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:31:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Great New Items Never Before In Our Catalog
In-Reply-To: <50A83ABC.1020803@sasktel.net>
References: <50A83ABC.1020803@sasktel.net>
Message-ID: <1353454279.28616.YahooMailNeo@web125704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

And some old favorites as well!

www.datsunparts.com/1184B B B  Fairlady 1500
63 - 64 door lock weather-strips

www.datsunparts.com/1914B B B  63 b 66
Round cold air valve vent weather-strips
B www.datsunparts.com/1517B B B B U20
Solex C Camshaft
B www.datsunparts.com/1449B B B  U20 custom retainer set,
accepts L-series lash pads 

www.datsunparts.com/2235B B B  67 B= Horn button
pad & bDatsunb Insert
B www.datsunparts.com/1365B  B  65 b 67 Fuel tank
sending unit
B www.datsunparts.com/1366B B B  67 B= - 70B  Fuel tank sending
unit

www.datsunparts.com/2601B B B  68 b 70 Rubber oval plug under
cigarette lighter 
B www.datsunparts.com/2151B B B  Differential U bolt kit
www.datsunparts.com/1482B B B  5 Speed clutch arm boot
www.datsunparts.com/1399B B B   65 b 67 B= Fuse box replacement lid w/decal
B www.datsunparts.com/1345B B B  65 b 67 B=B  Fuse box decal
B www.datsunparts.com/2143B B B  Leaf spring inner pad spacers all years
B 
Datsunparts.com 818-363-2015

Always something new!

Happy Thanksgiving

Dean
Apostal

From datsunpartsdotcom at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 20 17:16:18 2012
From: datsunpartsdotcom at yahoo.com (DatsunParts.com, Inc.)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 16:16:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Great New Items Never Before In Our Catalog
In-Reply-To: <1353454279.28616.YahooMailNeo@web125704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <50A83ABC.1020803@sasktel.net>
	<1353454279.28616.YahooMailNeo@web125704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1353456978.49303.YahooMailNeo@web125701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

And some old favorites as well!


www.datsunparts.com/1184 Fairlady 1500 63 -
64 door lock weather-strips
www.datsunparts.com/1914 63 b 66 Round cold air
valve vent weather-strips 
www.datsunparts.com/1517 U20 Solex C Camshaft
www.datsunparts.com/1449 U20 custom retainer set, accepts L-series lash pads
www.datsunparts.com/2235 67 B= Horn button pad & bDatsunb Insert
www.datsunparts.com/1365 65 b 67 Fuel tank sending unit
www.datsunparts.com/1366 67 B= - 70B  Fuel tank sending unit
www.datsunparts.com/2601 68 b 70 Rubber oval plug under cigarette lighter
www.datsunparts.com/2151 Differential U bolt kit
www.datsunparts.com/1482 5
Speed clutch arm boot
www.datsunparts.com/1399 65 b 67 B= Fuse box
replacement lid w/decal 
www.datsunparts.com/1345 65 b 67 B=B  Fuse box
decal 
www.datsunparts.com/2143 Leaf spring inner pad spacers all years 
B 
Datsunparts.comB B B  818-363-2015

Always something new!

Happy Thanksgiving
Dean Apostal

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Sat Nov 24 20:24:37 2012
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 19:24:37 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Pulling roadster engine - Van Nuys - Sunday November
	25th
Message-ID: <SNT106-W4734A3BE10830F7F4A9A49DF580@phx.gbl>

Goota change transmission seal - starting to pull engine sunday as above
want to help, kibbutz or just hang out

10AM - ish
17233 Hemmingway Street
Van Nuys CA 91406

Peter Harrison
818 448 3181

From ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com  Sat Nov 24 20:44:47 2012
From: ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com (Stan Wilkins)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 20:44:47 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Pulling roadster engine - Van Nuys - Sunday
 November 25th
In-Reply-To: <SNT106-W4734A3BE10830F7F4A9A49DF580@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT106-W4734A3BE10830F7F4A9A49DF580@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP11019503BF45A92DE9227BEB4580@phx.gbl>

I've got a few things to do in the morning but if you bring it here to 
Flagstaff, AZ I'd give you a hand.  Oh wait, I loaned my cherry picker 
to someone a couple of days ago.  Maybe next time?

Stan, in Flagstaff where the weather has been relatively decent.

On 11/24/2012 8:24 PM, peter harrison wrote:
> Goota change transmission seal - starting to pull engine sunday as above
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From hrhaslett at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 26 19:56:58 2012
From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:56:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
Message-ID: <1353985018.59503.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Hey All,
I just replaced my fried points, condensor, cap and rotor...plugs
too.  My 1600 was running poor and backfiring, alot of hesitation too. 
Adjusted valves as well to .017 hot.  My problem is its still running weird,
backfiring on deceleration.  I have adjusted the timing as best as I can and
acceleration is strong, just the sputtering and backfires when backing
off...idle is not great either....its high at about 1100 rpm and I can't get
it lower.
Any suggestions as to tuning?
Thanks,
Roy Haslett
67 early 1600

From ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com  Mon Nov 26 20:33:26 2012
From: ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com (Stan Wilkins)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:33:26 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Pulling roadster engine - Van Nuys - Sunday
 November 25th
In-Reply-To: <50B1942F.2060200@hotmail.com>
References: <SNT106-W4734A3BE10830F7F4A9A49DF580@phx.gbl>
	<50B1942F.2060200@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP153B589F861FDE480A301C2B45E0@phx.gbl>

How'd the transmission seal change go?

Stan

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Mon Nov 26 22:11:43 2012
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (=?utf-8?B?Z3JhbnZpbGxlY29tcHV0aW5nQGhvdG1haWwuY29t?=)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:11:43 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters]
 =?utf-8?q?Pulling_roadster_engine_-_Van_Nuys_-_Sunday?=
 =?utf-8?q?_November_25th?=
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Not so far - got all out tonight - can't see how to get at it.

>From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.

----- Reply message -----
From: "Stan Wilkins" <ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com>
To: "datsun" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Roadsters] Pulling roadster engine - Van Nuys - Sunday November 25th
Date: Mon, Nov 26, 2012 19:33


How'd the transmission seal change go?

Stan
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Mon Nov 26 22:13:50 2012
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Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:13:50 -0800
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Help - how to get at it??
Thx
Peter
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Mon Nov 26 22:14:05 2012
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:14:05 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
In-Reply-To: <1353985018.59503.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1353985018.59503.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3E6A38D2-52F7-42D4-8D7A-72AB5D5519B5@netscape.net>

Check for any exhaust leaks?

Linda

Sent from my iPod

On Nov 26, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hey All,
> I just replaced my fried points, condensor, cap and rotor...plugs
> too.  My 1600 was running poor and backfiring, alot of hesitation too.
> Adjusted valves as well to .017 hot.  My problem is its still running
weird,
> backfiring on deceleration.  I have adjusted the timing as best as I can
and
> acceleration is strong, just the sputtering and backfires when backing
> off...idle is not great either....its high at about 1100 rpm and I can't
get
> it lower.
> Any suggestions as to tuning?
> Thanks,
> Roy Haslett
> 67 early 1600
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Mon Nov 26 22:16:02 2012
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:16:02 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Pulling roadster engine - Van Nuys - Sunday
 November 25th
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP153B589F861FDE480A301C2B45E0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT106-W4734A3BE10830F7F4A9A49DF580@phx.gbl>
	<50B1942F.2060200@hotmail.com>
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Message-ID: <B46777E6-E53F-463D-82D4-5EBA197B537A@netscape.net>

He just got the engine out tonite. Sun afternoon was taking things off and
prepping engine to come out. That takes a surprising amount of time I think.

Linda

Sent from my iPod

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> How'd the transmission seal change go?
>
> Stan
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Mon Nov 26 22:17:33 2012
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:17:33 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
In-Reply-To: <1353985018.59503.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1353985018.59503.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <32294F9C-C6CC-4BB4-9812-6737BECF47C9@netscape.net>

Another idea is to clean the carbs and set the fuel bowl float height
correctly.

Linda

Sent from my iPod

On Nov 26, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hey All,
> I just replaced my fried points, condensor, cap and rotor...plugs
> too.  My 1600 was running poor and backfiring, alot of hesitation too.
> Adjusted valves as well to .017 hot.  My problem is its still running
weird,
> backfiring on deceleration.  I have adjusted the timing as best as I can
and
> acceleration is strong, just the sputtering and backfires when backing
> off...idle is not great either....its high at about 1100 rpm and I can't
get
> it lower.
> Any suggestions as to tuning?
> Thanks,
> Roy Haslett
> 67 early 1600
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From ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com  Mon Nov 26 22:37:31 2012
From: ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com (Stan Wilkins)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:37:31 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Pulling roadster engine - Van Nuys - Sunday
 November 25th
In-Reply-To: <B46777E6-E53F-463D-82D4-5EBA197B537A@netscape.net>
References: <SNT106-W4734A3BE10830F7F4A9A49DF580@phx.gbl>
	<50B1942F.2060200@hotmail.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP153B589F861FDE480A301C2B45E0@phx.gbl>
	<B46777E6-E53F-463D-82D4-5EBA197B537A@netscape.net>
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I can relate; a few weekends ago I pulled the 460 out of my F350. Took 
me and a friend 7 hours.  He is a former Ford wrench and I've twisted 
wrenches on and off professionally for 30 years.  I live in Arizona so 
there isn't a rust issue; it just takes a long time to get stuff done.  
And now that I'm an old guy it takes even longer!

Stan

On 11/26/2012 10:16 PM, Linda J wrote:
> He just got the engine out tonite. Sun afternoon was taking things off and prepping engine to come out. That takes a surprising amount of time I think.
>
> Linda
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On Nov 26, 2012, at 7:33 PM, Stan Wilkins <ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> How'd the transmission seal change go?
>>
>> Stan
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From aultgc at att.net  Mon Nov 26 23:22:55 2012
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 00:22:55 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
References: <1353985018.59503.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5BDB2B27BA974784AF4562DE92CCF865@gaxp1>

Roy,

I think you're talking about two separate problems here, which can 
contribute to one another.  Ignition and carburetion.

The sputtering and backfiring can be a number of things, but look for the 
simpler answer first:  ignition.  If the condition of the ignition system is 
unknown or clearly aged, you need to replace more than plugs, points, 
condenser and cap.  Did you dismantle the distributor when you replaced the 
points?  You need to make sure the mechanical advance is operating properly, 
that the weights and springs are correct, and that distributor shaft is 
running true (not worn).  Did you replace the plug wires?  I don't 
understand "...have adjusted the timing as best I can."  What is keeping you 
from getting the timing essentially dead on?

The high idle is probably carburetion.  Make sure the float levels are 
correct, the needles and seats (inlet valves) are not leaking.  The suction 
pistons should drop freely with a slight "thunk".  The nozzles must be 
properly centered in  the throttle bodies, and the tapered needles must not 
contact the nozzles.  There should be no sign of wear on the needles.  Once 
running, the air flow through the carbs must be balanced at idle and about 
2000 rpm.  (Opinions on this vary, but I follow the factory instructions.) 
Once you have the air flow balanced, you can balance the fuel flow.  I lift 
one piston, effectively taking that carb out of service, and adjust the 
mixture until I get the best idle I can.  Repeat with the other carb.  If 
everything is right, you should be able to get a stable 500 rpm idle, but I 
run about 700-800 rpm.

So, I think you have more work to do before you throw up your hands.

Gary
(219) 322-1923 (evenings and weekends; CST)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roy Haslett" <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
To: "Datsun Owners List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 8:56 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues


> Hey All,
> I just replaced my fried points, condensor, cap and rotor...plugs
> too.  My 1600 was running poor and backfiring, alot of hesitation too.
> Adjusted valves as well to .017 hot.  My problem is its still running 
> weird,
> backfiring on deceleration.  I have adjusted the timing as best as I can 
> and
> acceleration is strong, just the sputtering and backfires when backing
> off...idle is not great either....its high at about 1100 rpm and I can't 
> get
> it lower.
> Any suggestions as to tuning?
> Thanks,
> Roy Haslett
> 67 early 1600
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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Tue Nov 27 06:52:06 2012
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:52:06 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
Message-ID: <274f9.40a10526.3de61f86@aol.com>

Having the timing too far advanced will cause the idle speed to be high and 
 difficult to lower. For instructions on setting up the carbs check out 
_http://datsunroadsterranch.com/welcome.html_ 
(http://datsunroadsterranch.com/welcome.html)  .  Some backfiring on overrun is normal. The later cars had 
bits to stop it from  happening as it makes the smog folks crazy. 
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 11/26/2012 10:44:09 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
aultgc at att.net writes:

Roy,

I think you're talking about two separate problems  here, which can 
contribute to one another.  Ignition and  carburetion.

The sputtering and backfiring can be a number of things,  but look for the 
simpler answer first:  ignition.  If the  condition of the ignition system 
is 
unknown or clearly aged, you need to  replace more than plugs, points, 
condenser and cap.  Did you  dismantle the distributor when you replaced 
the 
points?  You need to  make sure the mechanical advance is operating 
properly, 
that the weights  and springs are correct, and that distributor shaft is 
running true (not  worn).  Did you replace the plug wires?  I don't 
understand  "...have adjusted the timing as best I can."  What is keeping 
you  
from getting the timing essentially dead on?

The high idle is  probably carburetion.  Make sure the float levels are 
correct, the  needles and seats (inlet valves) are not leaking.  The 
suction  
pistons should drop freely with a slight "thunk".  The nozzles must  be 
properly centered in  the throttle bodies, and the tapered needles  must 
not 
contact the nozzles.  There should be no sign of wear on the  needles.  
Once 
running, the air flow through the carbs must be  balanced at idle and about 
2000 rpm.  (Opinions on this vary, but I  follow the factory instructions.) 
Once you have the air flow balanced, you  can balance the fuel flow.  I 
lift 
one piston, effectively taking  that carb out of service, and adjust the 
mixture until I get the best idle  I can.  Repeat with the other carb.  If 
everything is right, you  should be able to get a stable 500 rpm idle, but 
I 
run about 700-800  rpm.

So, I think you have more work to do before you throw up your  hands.

Gary
(219) 322-1923 (evenings and weekends; CST)

-----  Original Message ----- 
From: "Roy Haslett"  <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
To: "Datsun Owners List"  <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012  8:56 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues


> Hey  All,
> I just replaced my fried points, condensor, cap and  rotor...plugs
> too.  My 1600 was running poor and backfiring, alot  of hesitation too.
> Adjusted valves as well to .017 hot.  My  problem is its still running 
> weird,
> backfiring on  deceleration.  I have adjusted the timing as best as I can 
>  and
> acceleration is strong, just the sputtering and backfires when  backing
> off...idle is not great either....its high at about 1100 rpm  and I can't 
> get
> it lower.
> Any suggestions as to  tuning?
> Thanks,
> Roy Haslett
> 67 early 1600
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From noji-1 at pacbell.net  Tue Nov 27 08:12:13 2012
From: noji-1 at pacbell.net (dana nojima)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 07:12:13 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Exhaust leak
Message-ID: <03af01cdccb1$953e53e0$bfbafba0$@net>

Message: 5

Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:14:05 -0800

From: Linda J <ljordan704 at netscape.net>

To: Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>

Cc: Datsun Owners List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>

Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues

Message-ID: <3E6A38D2-52F7-42D4-8D7A-72AB5D5519B5 at netscape.net>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

 

Check for any exhaust leaks?

 

Linda

 

How large would an exhaust leak need to be to cause those types of symptoms?


 

Does it matter where they originate from?  Header/muffler/pipes inbetween? 

 

Thanks, 

 

Dana

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Nov 27 09:13:16 2012
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 16:13:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
In-Reply-To: <5BDB2B27BA974784AF4562DE92CCF865@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <1366556312.597907.1354032796075.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Lots of good suggestions, but did it ever run & idle correctly, and not backfire, i.e. are these long-standing issues, or did they appear after replacing the parts? If these are new issues, when and/or how many miles ago did it run properly?

Pete

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roy Haslett" <hrhaslett at yahoo.com> 
To: "Datsun Owners List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 8:56 PM 
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues 


> Hey All, 
> I just replaced my fried points, condensor, cap and rotor...plugs 
> too. My 1600 was running poor and backfiring, alot of hesitation too. 
> Adjusted valves as well to .017 hot. 
> 
> My problem is its still running weird, backfiring on deceleration. 
> I have adjusted the timing as best as I can and 
> acceleration is strong, just the sputtering and backfires when backing 
> off...idle is not great either....its high at about 1100 rpm and I can't 
> get it lower.
>
> Any suggestions as to tuning? 
> Thanks, 
> Roy Haslett 
> 67 early 1600 

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Tue Nov 27 09:45:53 2012
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:45:53 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Exhaust leak
In-Reply-To: <03af01cdccb1$953e53e0$bfbafba0$@net>
References: <03af01cdccb1$953e53e0$bfbafba0$@net>
Message-ID: <47F26741-F898-4649-B0F6-B238D7879747@netscape.net>

As I understand it all exhaust leaks are bad and it can be a tiny hole too.
Often the collector gasket is disintegrating so maybe get another one and
replace it , tighten well. Retorque the exhaust manifold and look for cracks
on the stock one.

Linda

Sent from my iPod

On Nov 27, 2012, at 7:12 AM, "dana nojima" <noji-1 at pacbell.net> wrote:

> Message: 5
>
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:14:05 -0800
>
> From: Linda J <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
>
> To: Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
>
> Cc: Datsun Owners List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
>
> Message-ID: <3E6A38D2-52F7-42D4-8D7A-72AB5D5519B5 at netscape.net>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
>
> Check for any exhaust leaks?
>
>
>
> Linda
>
>
>
> How large would an exhaust leak need to be to cause those types of
symptoms?
>
>
>
>
> Does it matter where they originate from?  Header/muffler/pipes inbetween?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Dana
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From hrhaslett at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 27 11:35:20 2012
From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 10:35:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Exhaust leak
In-Reply-To: <47F26741-F898-4649-B0F6-B238D7879747@netscape.net>
References: <03af01cdccb1$953e53e0$bfbafba0$@net>
	<47F26741-F898-4649-B0F6-B238D7879747@netscape.net>
Message-ID: <1354041320.47529.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

I have the stock manifold and exhaust, the one with the ring clamp from the
manifold to the pipe. It has always leaked no matter how much I have tried to
tighten seal etc.. at the clamp.  I am now at the point where I will wrap it
with some hi temp silicone tape and see if it helps.  I guess I could go to
the muffler shop and have them work on it.  Good idea to retourque the
manifolds, I have a good gasket on (from Dean) so that might help too.
Roy 
________________________________
From: Linda J <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
To:
dana nojima <noji-1 at pacbell.net> 
Cc: "<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>"
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Exhaust leak

As I understand it all exhaust leaks
are bad and it can be a tiny hole too.
Often the collector gasket is
disintegrating so maybe get another one and
replace it , tighten well.
Retorque the exhaust manifold and look for cracks
on the stock one.

Linda
Sent from my iPod

On Nov 27, 2012, at 7:12 AM, "dana nojima"
<noji-1 at pacbell.net> wrote:

> Message: 5
>
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:14:05
-0800
>
> From: Linda J <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
>
> To: Roy Haslett
<hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
>
> Cc: Datsun Owners List
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning
issues
>
> Message-ID: <3E6A38D2-52F7-42D4-8D7A-72AB5D5519B5 at netscape.net>
>
>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
>
> Check for any exhaust
leaks?
>
>
>
> Linda
>
>
>
> How large would an exhaust leak need to be to
cause those types of
symptoms?
>
>
>
>
> Does it matter where they originate
from?  Header/muffler/pipes inbetween?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Dana
>
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>
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From hrhaslett at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 27 11:46:01 2012
From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 10:46:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
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It has run and idled well up until the last few hundred miles, no
backfires. Has run especially well at highway speeds (60-65). I had been
getting some hesitation on the street but attributed it to the heat and vapor
lock.  As the sputtering and backfiring started and increased I decided to
change out the electrical components from the coil to the plugs. (They were
all pretty well toasted).   I believe to have the gaps all correct and I
believe the parts to be ok (Beck Arnley).  I think it is a matter of the
timing and carb adjusting at this point.  Another current symptom is run-on
(dieseling) after shut down. What usually causes that?
FYI.  Fresh head about
5,000 miles ago.  Engine has approx 20,000 miles on rebuild (done back in the
80's) Does not burn any oil.
Thanks,
Roy
To: Datsun Owners List
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues

Lots of good suggestions, but did
it ever run & idle correctly, and not backfire, i.e. are these long-standing
issues, or did they appear after replacing the parts? If these are new issues,
when and/or how many miles ago did it run properly?

Pete

----- Original
Message ----- 
From: "Roy Haslett" <hrhaslett at yahoo.com> 
To: "Datsun Owners
List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 8:56
PM 
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues 


> Hey All, 
> I just replaced
my fried points, condensor, cap and rotor...plugs 
> too. My 1600 was running
poor and backfiring, alot of hesitation too. 
> Adjusted valves as well to
.017 hot. 
> 
> My problem is its still running weird, backfiring on
deceleration. 
> I have adjusted the timing as best as I can and 
>
acceleration is strong, just the sputtering and backfires when backing 
>
off...idle is not great either....its high at about 1100 rpm and I can't 
>
get it lower.
>
> Any suggestions as to tuning? 
> Thanks, 
> Roy Haslett 
>
67 early 1600 
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From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 27 12:49:30 2012
From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 11:49:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
In-Reply-To: <1354041961.12167.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1354045770.39113.YahooMailClassic@web124904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Sure sounds like a timing issue (especially with the run-on).  If this was a
2000 I would guess you were a tooth off on your timing chain, but that would
be much less common/probable with the short 1600 chain.  It did this all of a
sudden?  Did you have a rough start or something that could have caused it to
jump timing?  Since you cannot adjust at the dizzy, it might be worth a
look...


Mike Harper, CAI, AARE
Harper Auction & Realty
843-729-4996
"Experience Sells"

www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET
 
 

--- On Tue, 11/27/12, Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
To: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>, "Datsun Owners List"
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 1:46 PM


It has run and idled well up until the last few hundred miles, no
backfires. Has run especially well at highway speeds (60-65). I had been
getting some hesitation on the street but attributed it to the heat and vapor
lock.  As the sputtering and backfiring started and increased I decided to
change out the electrical components from the coil to the plugs. (They were
all pretty well toasted).   I believe to have the gaps all correct and I
believe the parts to be ok (Beck Arnley).  I think it is a matter of the
timing and carb adjusting at this point.  Another current symptom is run-on
(dieseling) after shut down. What usually causes that?
FYI.  Fresh head about
5,000 miles ago.  Engine has approx 20,000 miles on rebuild (done back in the
80's) Does not burn any oil.
Thanks,
Roy

From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 13:17:53 2012
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:17:53 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
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Like Pete said, lots of good suggestions, but remember there's an order to
be followed. As was mentioned, first make sure the distributor is in good
condition and functioning properly.Worn bushings on the shaft, or anything
else that creates play in the shaft leads to erratic timing. I'm not sure
if the breaker point mounting plate is still available, but that's always
been a weak point in most of the Nissan units.

Set up the points first, preferably using a dwell meter instead of by
measuring the point gap. Then you need to set the initial timing. That
varies somewhat by model and year, or if you've got a breakerless setup.
IMO, it is best to swap in a breakerless system. Doing so takes away many
of the normal trouble spots in an ignition system. Even on a breakerless
distributor the distributor shaft and mechanical advance systems still need
to be checked. As I mentioned you need a dwell meter to set the points and
a decent timing light to set the timing. Eyeballing either just doesn't
work.

After the timing's set properly you can start looking at the carbs. First
thing I'd look for is any play in the throttle shafts. If they're worn
you'll never get the carbs set so that the engine runs properly. If the
shafts are okay, check the float levels and other items mentioned.

HTH,
Ron

On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net>wrote:

> Lots of good suggestions, but did it ever run & idle correctly, and not
> backfire, i.e. are these long-standing issues, or did they appear after
> replacing the parts? If these are new issues, when and/or how many miles
> ago did it run properly?
>
> Pete
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roy Haslett" <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
> To: "Datsun Owners List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 8:56 PM
> Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
>
>
> > Hey All,
> > I just replaced my fried points, condensor, cap and rotor...plugs
> > too. My 1600 was running poor and backfiring, alot of hesitation too.
> > Adjusted valves as well to .017 hot.
> >
> > My problem is its still running weird, backfiring on deceleration.
> > I have adjusted the timing as best as I can and
> > acceleration is strong, just the sputtering and backfires when backing
> > off...idle is not great either....its high at about 1100 rpm and I can't
> > get it lower.
> >
> > Any suggestions as to tuning?
> > Thanks,
> > Roy Haslett
> > 67 early 1600
> ________________________________________
>
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From gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 27 13:24:22 2012
From: gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com (Gordon Maness)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:24:22 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
In-Reply-To: <1354045770.39113.YahooMailClassic@web124904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1354041961.12167.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>,
	<1354045770.39113.YahooMailClassic@web124904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SNT137-W32B0273784D56DEF60A885B25E0@phx.gbl>

Aren't these 'interfearance' (timing jumps a tooth = piston and valve contact)
engines? If so then the chain can not be an issur.
 > Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 11:49:30 -0800
> From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com
> To: ppeters914 at comcast.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net;
hrhaslett at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
>
> Sure sounds like a timing issue (especially with the run-on).  If this was
a
> 2000 I would guess you were a tooth off on your timing chain, but that
would
> be much less common/probable with the short 1600 chain.  It did this all of
a
> sudden?  Did you have a rough start or something that could have caused it
to
> jump timing?  Since you cannot adjust at the dizzy, it might be worth a
> look...
>
>
> Mike Harper, CAI, AARE
> Harper Auction & Realty
> 843-729-4996
> "Experience Sells"
>
> www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET
>
>
>
> --- On Tue, 11/27/12, Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
> To: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>, "Datsun Owners List"
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Date: Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 1:46 PM
>
>
> It has run and idled well up until the last few hundred miles, no
> backfires. Has run especially well at highway speeds (60-65). I had been
> getting some hesitation on the street but attributed it to the heat and
vapor
> lock.  As the sputtering and backfiring started and increased I decided to
> change out the electrical components from the coil to the plugs. (They were
> all pretty well toasted).   I believe to have the gaps all correct and I
> believe the parts to be ok (Beck Arnley).  I think it is a matter of the
> timing and carb adjusting at this point.  Another current symptom is run-on
> (dieseling) after shut down. What usually causes that?
> FYI.  Fresh head about
> 5,000 miles ago.  Engine has approx 20,000 miles on rebuild (done back in
the
> 80's) Does not burn any oil.
> Thanks,
> Roy
> ________________________________________
>
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>
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From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 27 15:09:32 2012
From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:09:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
In-Reply-To: <SNT137-W32B0273784D56DEF60A885B25E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1354054172.90402.YahooMailClassic@web124904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Not sure about the 1600 push rod engine, but when they made it an OHC and
added the long timing chain from the existing cam shaft (jackshaft), to create
the 2000, it can be off a tooth and not do any damage.  (again that is on the
2000 OHC design).  I had that happen and had similar symptoms to those
described.  YMMV.


Mike Harper, CAI, AARE
Harper Auction & Realty
843-729-4996
"Experience Sells"

www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET
 
 

--- On Tue, 11/27/12, Gordon Maness <gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Gordon Maness <gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
To: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com, ppeters914 at comcast.net,
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net, hrhaslett at yahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 3:24 PM






Aren't these 'interfearance' (timing jumps a tooth = piston and valve contact)
engines? 
If so then the chain can not be an issur.
 


> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 11:49:30 -0800
> From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com
> To: ppeters914 at comcast.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net;
hrhaslett at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
>
> Sure sounds like a timing issue (especially with the run-on). If this was a
> 2000 I would guess you were a tooth off on your timing chain, but that
would
> be much less common/probable with the short 1600 chain. It did this all of
a
> sudden? Did you have a rough start or something that could have caused it
to
> jump timing? Since you cannot adjust at the dizzy, it might be worth a
> look...
>
>
> Mike Harper, CAI, AARE
> Harper Auction & Realty
> 843-729-4996
> "Experience Sells"
>
> www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET
>
>
>
> --- On Tue, 11/27/12, Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
> To: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>, "Datsun Owners List"
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Date: Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 1:46 PM
>
>
> It has run and idled well up until the last few hundred miles, no
> backfires. Has run especially well at highway speeds (60-65). I had been
> getting some hesitation on the street but attributed it to the heat and
vapor
> lock. As the sputtering and backfiring started and increased I decided to
> change out the electrical components from the coil to the plugs. (They were
> all pretty well toasted). I believe to have the gaps all correct and I
> believe the parts to be ok (Beck Arnley). I think it is a matter of the
> timing and carb adjusting at this point. Another current symptom is run-on
> (dieseling) after shut down. What usually causes that?
> FYI. Fresh head about
> 5,000 miles ago. Engine has approx 20,000 miles on rebuild (done back in
the
> 80's) Does not burn any oil.
> Thanks,
> Roy
> ________________________________________
>
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From svedise at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 27 18:14:48 2012
From: svedise at hotmail.com (Jim Svedise)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 18:14:48 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
In-Reply-To: <1354042125.66999.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1353985018.59503.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<BLU152-ds2D353B421A86226872E10B45E0@phx.gbl>
	<1354042125.66999.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU152-ds8BB8085F936FBBF2BCA20B45D0@phx.gbl>

The vacuum line to dist. also any vacuum lines on intake manifold. You can use
carb cleaner spay around intake to head carbs to intake with engine running to
see if there is any change in rpm.

Jim
__________________________________
Living The Good Life South Of The Border

Where?






Check motor for a vacuum leaks.





Hey All,
I just replaced my fried points, condensor, cap and rotor...plugs
too.  My 1600 was running poor and backfiring, alot of hesitation too.
Adjusted valves as well to .017 hot.  My problem is its still running weird,
backfiring on deceleration.  I have adjusted the timing as best as I can and
acceleration is strong, just the sputtering and backfires when backing
off...idle is not great either....its high at about 1100 rpm and I can't get
it lower.
Any suggestions as to tuning?
Thanks,
Roy Haslett
67 early 1600

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Tue Nov 27 20:59:24 2012
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 22:59:24 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
In-Reply-To: <BLU152-ds8BB8085F936FBBF2BCA20B45D0@phx.gbl>
References: <1353985018.59503.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<BLU152-ds2D353B421A86226872E10B45E0@phx.gbl>
	<1354042125.66999.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<BLU152-ds8BB8085F936FBBF2BCA20B45D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8CF9B33E3B817C3-D3C-22B7F@webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com>

 A leaky fuel bowl gasket can make it run crummy too. Get some gasket material
and practice cutting gaskets...
Linda





-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Svedise <svedise at hotmail.com>
To: Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>; Datsun Club
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Nov 27, 2012 5:23 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues


The vacuum line to dist. also any vacuum lines on intake manifold. You can
use
carb cleaner spay around intake to head carbs to intake with engine running
to
see if there is any change in rpm.

Jim
__________________________________
Living The Good Life South Of The Border

Where?






Check motor for a vacuum leaks.





Hey All,
I just replaced my fried points, condensor, cap and rotor...plugs
too.  My 1600 was running poor and backfiring, alot of hesitation too.
Adjusted valves as well to .017 hot.  My problem is its still running weird,
backfiring on deceleration.  I have adjusted the timing as best as I can and
acceleration is strong, just the sputtering and backfires when backing
off...idle is not great either....its high at about 1100 rpm and I can't get
it lower.
Any suggestions as to tuning?
Thanks,
Roy Haslett
67 early 1600
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 27 21:49:42 2012
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 20:49:42 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Pulling roadster engine - Van Nuys - Sunday
 November 25th
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References: <SNT106-W4734A3BE10830F7F4A9A49DF580@phx.gbl>,
	<50B1942F.2060200@hotmail.com>,
	<BLU0-SMTP153B589F861FDE480A301C2B45E0@phx.gbl>,
	<B46777E6-E53F-463D-82D4-5EBA197B537A@netscape.net>,
	<BLU0-SMTP15766C75CC3445E10275A22B45E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <SNT106-W4953C2DFA077128DC8D7F2DF5D0@phx.gbl>

Engine out, Tranny disconnected, bell housing removed/cleaned (v. messy)
So now cleanup
Since the fire there are certain issues to be addressed and given that I have
to remove the dash to get it fixed, I am going to really try and sort the car
out. Deadline is February 1st - get engine sorted - obviously - seriously
pretty up the engine compartment, R&R all electrical bits - wiring etc - just
go through the entire engine compartment/under dash once (and hopefully) for
all.
SERIOUS paint will have to wait, but I want it to look presentably trashed -
ratsunish perhaps.
I just want to get it sorted so that it just DRIVES - albeit getting the under
dash etc. stuff FINALLY sorted.
R&R on a roadster isn't a big problem -
Hood first - then ??
Speedo - need access before the tranny drops
8 drive train bolts
8 tranny  mounts (10) if you include the rubber mount)
4 engine mounts
speedo
reverse light connex
clutch slave (2)
alternator (3) + 3 connex
Temp sender
Starter (3) including ground
Oil
Fuel
Various hoses
distributor
ignition
Radiator/Coolant
Battery/Grounds
Shifter
Backup switch
Fan
Throttle/Choke
Hood - hello

pluis a couple I can't think of right now

If all is cleanish - it's 3 hours - unless you are Kevin ( 2 - hours) - e.g. I
spent 20 minutes getting off a really stiff engine mount bolt with a nylock -
having to hold down both top and bottom (not going back I assure you)

The rest is getting the hoist connected (depending on the hoist) and then just
getting the angles right for extraction
That took 20 minutes - under flashlight - no less -

Thanks for your interest.

Peter Harrison
818 448 3181


> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:37:31 -0700
> From: ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Pulling roadster engine - Van Nuys - Sunday
November 25th
>
> I can relate; a few weekends ago I pulled the 460 out of my F350. Took
> me and a friend 7 hours.  He is a former Ford wrench and I've twisted
> wrenches on and off professionally for 30 years.  I live in Arizona so
> there isn't a rust issue; it just takes a long time to get stuff done.
> And now that I'm an old guy it takes even longer!
>
> Stan
>
> On 11/26/2012 10:16 PM, Linda J wrote:
> > He just got the engine out tonite. Sun afternoon was taking things off and
prepping engine to come out. That takes a surprising amount of time I think.
> >
> > Linda
> >
> > Sent from my iPod
> >
> > On Nov 26, 2012, at 7:33 PM, Stan Wilkins <ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> >> How'd the transmission seal change go?
> >>
> >> Stan
> >> ________________________________________
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From tom at datsun2000.com  Tue Nov 27 21:49:45 2012
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 20:49:45 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
Message-ID: <50B597E9.2010801@datsun2000.com>

Jumping a chain tooth in an interference engine is a good point.  I 
jumped a tooth in my second 2000 many years ago and replaced the chains, 
gears, upper tensioner, and at least 3 valves if I remember correctly.  
all for around $30.00 at the time.

I am just finishing installing new timing chains in Mr. Hyde and even 
though I was trying to be very careful about damaging the head gasket, I 
had a huge oil leak after reassembly.  I spent last Sunday searching for 
the source of the leak and then replacing the head and manifold 
gaskets.  Should be good for another 10 years and I hope more than 
18,000 miles.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Las Vegas
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org


On 11/27/2012 12:24:22 PM, Gordon Maness (gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com) 
wrote:
 > Aren't these 'interfearance' (timing jumps a tooth = piston and valve 
contact)
 > engines? If so then the chain can not be an issur.
 > > Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 11:49:30 -0800
 > > From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com
 > > To: ppeters914 at comcast.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net;
 > hrhaslett at yahoo.com
 > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
 > >
 > > Sure sounds like a timing issue (especially with the run-on). If 
this was
 > a
 > > 2000 I would guess you were a tooth off on your timing chain, but that
 > would
 > > be much less common/probable with the short 1600 chain. It did this 
all of
 > a
 > > sudden? Did you have a rough start or something that could have 
caused it
 > to
 > > jump timing? Since you cannot adjust at the dizzy, it might be worth a
 > > look...
 > >
 > >
 > > Mike Harper, CAI, AARE
 > > Harper Auction & Realty
 > > 843-729-4996
 > > "Experience Sells"
 > >
 > > www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > --- On Tue, 11/27/12, Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com> wrote:
 > >
 > >
 > > From: Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
 > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
 > > To: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>, "Datsun Owners List"
 > > <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
 > > Date: Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 1:46 PM
 > >
 > >
 > > It has run and idled well up until the last few hundred miles, no
 > > backfires. Has run especially well at highway speeds (60-65). I had 
been
 > > getting some hesitation on the street but attributed it to the heat and
 > vapor
 > > lock. As the sputtering and backfiring started and increased I 
decided to
 > > change out the electrical components from the coil to the plugs. 
(They were
 > > all pretty well toasted). I believe to have the gaps all correct and I

From ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 27 22:00:47 2012
From: ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com (Stan Wilkins)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 22:00:47 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Pulling roadster engine - Van Nuys - Sunday
 November 25th
In-Reply-To: <SNT106-W4953C2DFA077128DC8D7F2DF5D0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT106-W4734A3BE10830F7F4A9A49DF580@phx.gbl>,
	<50B1942F.2060200@hotmail.com>,
	<BLU0-SMTP153B589F861FDE480A301C2B45E0@phx.gbl>,
	<B46777E6-E53F-463D-82D4-5EBA197B537A@netscape.net>,
	<BLU0-SMTP15766C75CC3445E10275A22B45E0@phx.gbl>
	<SNT106-W4953C2DFA077128DC8D7F2DF5D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP447307ACDB7E7B18A797764B45D0@phx.gbl>

3 hours? Sounds like you know what you're doing.  I'll have at least 
that much time invested just getting the pack rat poop out of my 
roadster before I can get started on it.
  I was really taken with Kevin's SR20 transformations that I saw at the 
Multi-State gathering last month.  That's a goal I'm hoping to achieve; 
especially after I see the cost of a U20 rebuild.

Good luck with your project; keep us posted.

Stan, plugging away at the T-Bird so I can get to the Datsun next.

On 11/27/2012 9:49 PM, peter harrison wrote:
> Engine out, Tranny disconnected, bell housing removed/cleaned (v. messy)
> So now cleanup
> Since the fire there are certain issues to be addressed and given that 
> I have to remove the dash to get it fixed, I am going to really try 
> and sort the car out. Deadline is February 1st - get engine sorted - 
> obviously - seriously pretty up the engine compartment, R&R all 
> electrical bits - wiring etc - just go through the entire engine 
> compartment/under dash once (and hopefully) for all.
> SERIOUS paint will have to wait, but I want it to look presentably 
> trashed - ratsunish perhaps.
> I just want to get it sorted so that it just DRIVES - albeit getting 
> the under dash etc. stuff FINALLY sorted.
> R&R on a roadster isn't a big problem -
> Hood first - then ??
> Speedo - need access before the tranny drops
> 8 drive train bolts
> 8 tranny  mounts (10) if you include the rubber mount)
> 4 engine mounts
> speedo
> reverse light connex
> clutch slave (2)
> alternator (3) + 3 connex
> Temp sender
> Starter (3) including ground
> Oil
> Fuel
> Various hoses
> distributor
> ignition
> Radiator/Coolant
> Battery/Grounds
> Shifter
> Backup switch
> Fan
> Throttle/Choke
> Hood - hello
>
> pluis a couple I can't think of right now
>
> If all is cleanish - it's 3 hours - unless you are Kevin ( 2 - hours) 
> - e.g. I spent 20 minutes getting off a really stiff engine mount bolt 
> with a nylock - having to hold down both top and bottom (not going 
> back I assure you)
>
> The rest is getting the hoist connected (depending on the hoist) and 
> then just getting the angles right for extraction
> That took 20 minutes - under flashlight - no less -
>
> Thanks for your interest.
>
> Peter Harrison
> 818 448 3181
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:37:31 -0700
> > From: ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com
> > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Pulling roadster engine - Van Nuys - Sunday 
> November 25th
> >
> > I can relate; a few weekends ago I pulled the 460 out of my F350. Took
> > me and a friend 7 hours. He is a former Ford wrench and I've twisted
> > wrenches on and off professionally for 30 years. I live in Arizona so
> > there isn't a rust issue; it just takes a long time to get stuff done.
> > And now that I'm an old guy it takes even longer!
> >
> > Stan
> >
> > On 11/26/2012 10:16 PM, Linda J wrote:
> > > He just got the engine out tonite. Sun afternoon was taking things 
> off and prepping engine to come out. That takes a surprising amount of 
> time I think.
> > >
> > > Linda
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPod
> > >
> > > On Nov 26, 2012, at 7:33 PM, Stan Wilkins 
> <ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> How'd the transmission seal change go?
> > >>
> > >> Stan
> > >> ________________________________________
> > >>
> > >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> > >>
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From vulforge at aol.com  Tue Nov 27 23:49:42 2012
From: vulforge at aol.com (=?utf-8?B?dnVsZm9yZ2VAYW9sLmNvbQ==?=)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 00:49:42 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] =?utf-8?q?67_tune-up?=
Message-ID: <201211280649.qAS6njw0027057@imr-da05.mx.aol.com>

Check the oil level in the dashpots.  Low oil will cause those symptoms.

Russell Criswell
Vulcan's Forge
3936 Broadway
Kansas City, MO 64111
816-931-6303
www.vulcans-forge.com

From datsun_nut at ns.sympatico.ca  Wed Nov 28 03:32:36 2012
From: datsun_nut at ns.sympatico.ca (datsun_nut at ns.sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 10:32:36 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
Message-ID: <378052359-1354098757-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1887417190-@b1.c24.bise6.blackberry>

Apologies to all if this was suggested, but has the valve lash/clearance been properly set? Too tight can make for some strange behaviour.....

Damian in Nova Scotia
69 SRL Solex (2600 miles this past season)
Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.
Envoyi sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le riseau de Bell.

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Nov 28 13:32:18 2012
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 12:32:18 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
In-Reply-To: <50B597E9.2010801@datsun2000.com>
References: <50B597E9.2010801@datsun2000.com>
Message-ID: <00a101cdcda7$79f3dd70$6ddb9850$@net>

According to Roy, the head was rebuilt at 5k; the motor at 20k (was the
timing chain/gears replaced at that time?). Engine was running fine up until
a few hundred miles ago, then slowly deteriorated. 

Wouldn't a timing chain jumping be instantly noticeable? And, while
possible, has anyone experienced a 1600 timing chain jumping? Isn't that
more likely in the OHC engines (U20, L-series)?

My money is on something more simple like floats and/or exhaust/vacuum
leaks. 

This has been a fun thread. Eagerly awaiting the resolution!


Pete

From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Wed Nov 28 14:16:25 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 16:16:25 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
In-Reply-To: <00a101cdcda7$79f3dd70$6ddb9850$@net>
References: <50B597E9.2010801@datsun2000.com>
	<00a101cdcda7$79f3dd70$6ddb9850$@net>
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEuKUjnxxszZkgWU26aU1SSfMsRa-qN1Z44RC0gt+LuBhw@mail.gmail.com>

  Even on the race R16s, spinning up to 8000 rpms, we never had a timing
chain jump.

  back to basics, set the valve clearance, set the ignition timing, then
work on the carbs.

Paul
Ohio

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:

> According to Roy, the head was rebuilt at 5k; the motor at 20k (was the
> timing chain/gears replaced at that time?). Engine was running fine up
> until
> a few hundred miles ago, then slowly deteriorated.
>
> Wouldn't a timing chain jumping be instantly noticeable? And, while
> possible, has anyone experienced a 1600 timing chain jumping? Isn't that
> more likely in the OHC engines (U20, L-series)?
>
> My money is on something more simple like floats and/or exhaust/vacuum
> leaks.
>
> This has been a fun thread. Eagerly awaiting the resolution!
>
>
> Pete

From tputland at charter.net  Wed Nov 28 14:22:21 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 16:22:21 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
Message-ID: <e43f78b.1c23cc.13b48e62911.Webtop.47@charter.net>

I have (as usual) nothing new to add. But, I will echo what others have 
said as well as Paul below. And also add that my running issues got 
worse and worse on my tired 1600 as the exhaust leak at the manifold got 
worse.

Still waiting on my machinist to finish the head on my stroker. One step 
forward, two steps back.....sigh

tim


On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Paul Kort wrote:

> Even on the race R16s, spinning up to 8000 rpms, we never had a timing
> chain jump.
>
>   back to basics, set the valve clearance, set the ignition timing, 
> then
> work on the carbs.
>
> Paul
> Ohio
>
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> 
> wrote:
>
>> According to Roy, the head was rebuilt at 5k; the motor at 20k (was 
>> the
>> timing chain/gears replaced at that time?). Engine was running fine 
>> up
>> until
>> a few hundred miles ago, then slowly deteriorated.
>>
>> Wouldn't a timing chain jumping be instantly noticeable? And, while
>> possible, has anyone experienced a 1600 timing chain jumping? Isn't 
>> that
>> more likely in the OHC engines (U20, L-series)?
>>
>> My money is on something more simple like floats and/or 
>> exhaust/vacuum
>> leaks.
>>
>> This has been a fun thread. Eagerly awaiting the resolution!
>>
>>
>> Pete
> ________________________________________

From pat at hornesystemstx.com  Wed Nov 28 17:36:27 2012
From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:36:27 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Pulling roadster engine - Van Nuys - Sunday
 November 25th
In-Reply-To: <SNT106-W4953C2DFA077128DC8D7F2DF5D0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT106-W4734A3BE10830F7F4A9A49DF580@phx.gbl>,
	<50B1942F.2060200@hotmail.com>,
	<BLU0-SMTP153B589F861FDE480A301C2B45E0@phx.gbl>,
	<B46777E6-E53F-463D-82D4-5EBA197B537A@netscape.net>,
	<BLU0-SMTP15766C75CC3445E10275A22B45E0@phx.gbl>
	<SNT106-W4953C2DFA077128DC8D7F2DF5D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <50B6AE0B.30203@hornesystemstx.com>

Don't forget to drain the tranny...unless you like fluid all over the place!

It will also be easier to loosen the crank pulley bolt while the engine 
is still bolted down.

Peace,
Pat


Thusly spake peter harrison

> Engine out, Tranny disconnected, bell housing removed/cleaned (v. messy)
> So now cleanup
> Since the fire there are certain issues to be addressed and given that I have
> to remove the dash to get it fixed, I am going to really try and sort the car
> out. Deadline is February 1st - get engine sorted - obviously - seriously
> pretty up the engine compartment, R&R all electrical bits - wiring etc - just
> go through the entire engine compartment/under dash once (and hopefully) for
> all.
> SERIOUS paint will have to wait, but I want it to look presentably trashed -
> ratsunish perhaps.
> I just want to get it sorted so that it just DRIVES - albeit getting the under
> dash etc. stuff FINALLY sorted.
> R&R on a roadster isn't a big problem -
> Hood first - then ??
> Speedo - need access before the tranny drops
> 8 drive train bolts
> 8 tranny  mounts (10) if you include the rubber mount)
> 4 engine mounts
> speedo
> reverse light connex
> clutch slave (2)
> alternator (3) + 3 connex
> Temp sender
> Starter (3) including ground
> Oil
> Fuel
> Various hoses
> distributor
> ignition
> Radiator/Coolant
> Battery/Grounds
> Shifter
> Backup switch
> Fan
> Throttle/Choke
> Hood - hello
>
> pluis a couple I can't think of right now
>
> If all is cleanish - it's 3 hours - unless you are Kevin ( 2 - hours) - e.g. I
> spent 20 minutes getting off a really stiff engine mount bolt with a nylock -
> having to hold down both top and bottom (not going back I assure you)
>
> The rest is getting the hoist connected (depending on the hoist) and then just
> getting the angles right for extraction
> That took 20 minutes - under flashlight - no less -
>
> Thanks for your interest.
>
> Peter Harrison
> 818 448 3181
>
>
>> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:37:31 -0700
>> From: ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com
>> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Pulling roadster engine - Van Nuys - Sunday
> November 25th
>> I can relate; a few weekends ago I pulled the 460 out of my F350. Took
>> me and a friend 7 hours.  He is a former Ford wrench and I've twisted
>> wrenches on and off professionally for 30 years.  I live in Arizona so
>> there isn't a rust issue; it just takes a long time to get stuff done.
>> And now that I'm an old guy it takes even longer!
>>
>> Stan
>>
>> On 11/26/2012 10:16 PM, Linda J wrote:
>>> He just got the engine out tonite. Sun afternoon was taking things off and
> prepping engine to come out. That takes a surprising amount of time I think.
>>> Linda
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>
>>> On Nov 26, 2012, at 7:33 PM, Stan Wilkins <ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>> How'd the transmission seal change go?
>>>>
>>>> Stan
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>>>>
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> t
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>>
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From hrhaslett at yahoo.com  Thu Nov 29 10:56:58 2012
From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:56:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
In-Reply-To: <e43f78b.1c23cc.13b48e62911.Webtop.47@charter.net>
References: <e43f78b.1c23cc.13b48e62911.Webtop.47@charter.net>
Message-ID: <1354211818.17433.YahooMailNeo@web162002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Thank You everyone for all the excellent suggestions.  I have set all valves
and points.  Next I will set timing, then move to carb/linkage adjustment. 
Also considering replacing fuel pump as all filters are clear/clean.
Roy
________________________________
 From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
To:
datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent:
Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning
issues
 
I have (as usual) nothing new to add. But, I will echo what others
have said as well as Paul below. And also add that my running issues got worse
and worse on my tired 1600 as the exhaust leak at the manifold got worse.
Still waiting on my machinist to finish the head on my stroker. One step
forward, two steps back.....sigh

tim


On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Paul
Kort wrote:

> Even on the race R16s, spinning up to 8000 rpms, we never had a
timing
> chain jump.
> 
>   back to basics, set the valve clearance, set the
ignition timing, then
> work on the carbs.
> 
> Paul
> Ohio
> 
> On Wed, Nov
28, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>>
According to Roy, the head was rebuilt at 5k; the motor at 20k (was the
>>
timing chain/gears replaced at that time?). Engine was running fine up
>>
until
>> a few hundred miles ago, then slowly deteriorated.
>> 
>> Wouldn't a
timing chain jumping be instantly noticeable? And, while
>> possible, has
anyone experienced a 1600 timing chain jumping? Isn't that
>> more likely in
the OHC engines (U20, L-series)?
>> 
>> My money is on something more simple
like floats and/or exhaust/vacuum
>> leaks.
>> 
>> This has been a fun thread.
Eagerly awaiting the resolution!
>> 
>> 
>> Pete
>
________________________________________
________________________________________

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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Thu Nov 29 11:23:06 2012
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:23:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
In-Reply-To: <1354211818.17433.YahooMailNeo@web162002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <937861388.670737.1354213386843.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Before you buy a new fuel pump, invest in a fuel pressure gauge. Lots cheaper
than a pump.


Gordon Glasgow
Renton, WA
www.gordon-glasgow.org

----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy Haslett" <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
To: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>, "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net"
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:56:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues

Thank You everyone for all the excellent suggestions. B I have set all valves
and points. B Next I will set timing, then move to carb/linkage adjustment.
Also considering replacing fuel pump as all filters are clear/clean.
Roy
________________________________
B From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
To:
datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent:
Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning
issues
B 
I have (as usual) nothing new to add. But, I will echo what others
have said as well as Paul below. And also add that my running issues got worse
and worse on my tired 1600 as the exhaust leak at the manifold got worse.
Still waiting on my machinist to finish the head on my stroker. One step
forward, two steps back.....sigh

tim


On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Paul
Kort wrote:

> Even on the race R16s, spinning up to 8000 rpms, we never had a
timing
> chain jump.
>
> B  back to basics, set the valve clearance, set the
ignition timing, then
> work on the carbs.
>
> Paul
> Ohio
>
> On Wed, Nov
28, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
According to Roy, the head was rebuilt at 5k; the motor at 20k (was the
>>
timing chain/gears replaced at that time?). Engine was running fine up
>>
until
>> a few hundred miles ago, then slowly deteriorated.
>>
>> Wouldn't a
timing chain jumping be instantly noticeable? And, while
>> possible, has
anyone experienced a 1600 timing chain jumping? Isn't that
>> more likely in
the OHC engines (U20, L-series)?
>>
>> My money is on something more simple
like floats and/or exhaust/vacuum
>> leaks.
>>
>> This has been a fun thread.
Eagerly awaiting the resolution!
>>
>>
>> Pete
>
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From hrhaslett at yahoo.com  Thu Nov 29 11:34:27 2012
From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:34:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
In-Reply-To: <937861388.670737.1354213386843.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1354211818.17433.YahooMailNeo@web162002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<937861388.670737.1354213386843.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1354214067.97085.YahooMailNeo@web162005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

whats the correct psi Gordon?




________________________________
 From:
Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
To: Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
Cc: Tim <tputland at charter.net>; datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
 

Before you buy a new fuel pump,
invest in a fuel pressure gauge. Lots cheaper than a pump.


Gordon Glasgow
Renton, WA
www.gordon-glasgow.org

________________________________
 From:
"Roy Haslett" <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
To: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>,
"datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent:
Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:56:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning
issues

Thank You everyone for all the excellent suggestions.  I have set all
valves
and points.  Next I will set timing, then move to carb/linkage
adjustment. 
Also considering replacing fuel pump as all filters are
clear/clean.
Roy
________________________________
 From: Tim
<tputland at charter.net>
To:
datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent:
Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning
issues
 
I have (as usual) nothing new to
add. But, I will echo what others
have said as well as Paul below. And also
add that my running issues got worse
and worse on my tired 1600 as the exhaust
leak at the manifold got worse.
Still waiting on my machinist to finish the
head on my stroker. One step
forward, two steps back.....sigh

tim


On Wed,
Nov 28, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Paul
Kort wrote:

> Even on the race R16s, spinning
up to 8000 rpms, we never had a
timing
> chain jump.
> 
>   back to basics,
set the valve clearance, set the
ignition timing, then
> work on the carbs.
>
> Paul
> Ohio
> 
> On Wed, Nov
28, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Pete Peters
<ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>>
According to Roy, the head was rebuilt
at 5k; the motor at 20k (was the
>>
timing chain/gears replaced at that
time?). Engine was running fine up
>>
until
>> a few hundred miles ago, then
slowly deteriorated.
>> 
>> Wouldn't a
timing chain jumping be instantly
noticeable? And, while
>> possible, has
anyone experienced a 1600 timing chain
jumping? Isn't that
>> more likely in
the OHC engines (U20, L-series)?
>> 
>>
My money is on something more simple
like floats and/or exhaust/vacuum
>>
leaks.
>> 
>> This has been a fun thread.
Eagerly awaiting the resolution!
>>
>> 
>> Pete
>
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Thu Nov 29 11:43:47 2012
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:43:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
In-Reply-To: <1354214067.97085.YahooMailNeo@web162005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1581677030.671741.1354214627378.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Not sure on the SU's. For the Mikunis it's around 3.5 psi.


Gordon Glasgow
Renton, WA
www.gordon-glasgow.org

----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy Haslett" <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
To: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
Cc: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>, "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net"
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 10:34:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues


whats the correct psi Gordon?








From: Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
To: Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
Cc: Tim <tputland at charter.net>; datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues




Before you buy a new fuel pump, invest in a fuel pressure gauge. Lots cheaper
than a pump.


Gordon Glasgow
Renton, WA
www.gordon-glasgow.org


From: "Roy Haslett" <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
To: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>, "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net "
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:56:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues

Thank You everyone for all the excellent suggestions. B I have set all valves
and points. B Next I will set timing, then move to carb/linkage adjustment.
Also considering replacing fuel pump as all filters are clear/clean.
Roy
________________________________
B From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
To:
datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent:
Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning
issues
B 
I have (as usual) nothing new to add. But, I will echo what others
have said as well as Paul below. And also add that my running issues got worse
and worse on my tired 1600 as the exhaust leak at the manifold got worse.
Still waiting on my machinist to finish the head on my stroker. One step
forward, two steps back.....sigh

tim


On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Paul
Kort wrote:

> Even on the race R16s, spinning up to 8000 rpms, we never had a
timing
> chain jump.
>
> B  back to basics, set the valve clearance, set the
ignition timing, then
> work on the carbs.
>
> Paul
> Ohio
>
> On Wed, Nov
28, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
According to Roy, the head was rebuilt at 5k; the motor at 20k (was the
>>
timing chain/gears replaced at that time?). Engine was running fine up
>>
until
>> a few hundred miles ago, then slowly deteriorated.
>>
>> Wouldn't a
timing chain jumping be instantly noticeable? And, while
>> possible, has
anyone experienced a 1600 timing chain jumping? Isn't that
>> more likely in
the OHC engines (U20, L-series)?
>>
>> My money is on something more simple
like floats and/or exhaust/vacuum
>> leaks.
>>
>> This has been a fun thread.
Eagerly awaiting the resolution!
>>
>>
>> Pete
>
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From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Thu Nov 29 12:01:28 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:01:28 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
In-Reply-To: <1581677030.671741.1354214627378.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1354214067.97085.YahooMailNeo@web162005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<1581677030.671741.1354214627378.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEsuDH+ny3aixUx3f9anCmrEVBG3Bf54ssYt8nurbEgNyw@mail.gmail.com>

  Same for SUs; 3.5 psi works fine.

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>wrote:

> Not sure on the SU's. For the Mikunis it's around 3.5 psi.
>
>
> Gordon Glasgow
> Renton, WA
> www.gordon-glasgow.org
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roy Haslett" <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
> To: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
> Cc: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>, "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net"
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 10:34:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
>
>
> whats the correct psi Gordon?

From barterdude at aol.com  Thu Nov 29 12:51:09 2012
From: barterdude at aol.com (Gary Lasater)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:51:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
In-Reply-To: <1581677030.671741.1354214627378.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1581677030.671741.1354214627378.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <8CF9C8202F69450-1DD0-2FACD@webmail-m144.sysops.aol.com>

I have been running electric fuel pumps that I bought at most any auto parts
store that run the 2- 5 lb. range without problems for years.  Had on 1500,
1600, and 2000 models with great results.  Mounted on the frame just in front
of the rear wheels.  Also eliminated the metal fuel lines in the engine
compartment and went with the rubber tubing to help with any vapor locking
potentials.

Gary Lasater






-----Original Message-----
From: Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
To: Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
Cc: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:48 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues


Not sure on the SU's. For the Mikunis it's around 3.5 psi.


Gordon Glasgow
Renton, WA
www.gordon-glasgow.org

----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy Haslett" <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
To: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
Cc: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>, "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net"
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 10:34:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues


whats the correct psi Gordon?








From: Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
To: Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
Cc: Tim <tputland at charter.net>; datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues




Before you buy a new fuel pump, invest in a fuel pressure gauge. Lots cheaper
than a pump.


Gordon Glasgow
Renton, WA
www.gordon-glasgow.org


From: "Roy Haslett" <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
To: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>, "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net "
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:56:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues

Thank You everyone for all the excellent suggestions. B I have set all valves
and points. B Next I will set timing, then move to carb/linkage adjustment.
Also considering replacing fuel pump as all filters are clear/clean.
Roy
________________________________
B From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
To:
datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent:
Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning
issues
B
I have (as usual) nothing new to add. But, I will echo what others
have said as well as Paul below. And also add that my running issues got
worse
and worse on my tired 1600 as the exhaust leak at the manifold got worse.
Still waiting on my machinist to finish the head on my stroker. One step
forward, two steps back.....sigh

tim


On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Paul
Kort wrote:

> Even on the race R16s, spinning up to 8000 rpms, we never had a
timing
> chain jump.
>
> B  back to basics, set the valve clearance, set the
ignition timing, then
> work on the carbs.
>
> Paul
> Ohio
>
> On Wed, Nov
28, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
According to Roy, the head was rebuilt at 5k; the motor at 20k (was the
>>
timing chain/gears replaced at that time?). Engine was running fine up
>>
until
>> a few hundred miles ago, then slowly deteriorated.
>>
>> Wouldn't a
timing chain jumping be instantly noticeable? And, while
>> possible, has
anyone experienced a 1600 timing chain jumping? Isn't that
>> more likely in
the OHC engines (U20, L-series)?
>>
>> My money is on something more simple
like floats and/or exhaust/vacuum
>> leaks.
>>
>> This has been a fun thread.
Eagerly awaiting the resolution!
>>
>>
>> Pete
>
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Thu Nov 29 16:52:59 2012
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 15:52:59 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
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Message-ID: <C3424679-2044-4D09-9D2F-79DAFE2F7F38@netscape.net>

Not sure if you checked your pump for leaks out the bottom weep hole. If
leaking you can get a good rebuild kit from Schluderm on EBAY or his website.
Only IF you have one of the rebuilable pumps as described on the Rallye
website.

Linda

Sent from my iPod

On Nov 29, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net> wrote:

> Before you buy a new fuel pump, invest in a fuel pressure gauge. Lots
cheaper
> than a pump.
>
>
> Gordon Glasgow
> Renton, WA
> www.gordon-glasgow.org
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roy Haslett" <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
> To: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>, "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net"
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:56:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
>
> Thank You everyone for all the excellent suggestions. B I have set all
valves
> and points. B Next I will set timing, then move to carb/linkage adjustment.
> Also considering replacing fuel pump as all filters are clear/clean.
> Roy
> ________________________________
> B From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
> To:
> datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent:
> Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning
> issues
> B
> I have (as usual) nothing new to add. But, I will echo what others
> have said as well as Paul below. And also add that my running issues got
worse
> and worse on my tired 1600 as the exhaust leak at the manifold got worse.
> Still waiting on my machinist to finish the head on my stroker. One step
> forward, two steps back.....sigh
>
> tim
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Paul
> Kort wrote:
>
>> Even on the race R16s, spinning up to 8000 rpms, we never had a
> timing
>> chain jump.
>>
>> B  back to basics, set the valve clearance, set the
> ignition timing, then
>> work on the carbs.
>>
>> Paul
>> Ohio
>>
>> On Wed, Nov
> 28, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
> According to Roy, the head was rebuilt at 5k; the motor at 20k (was the
> timing chain/gears replaced at that time?). Engine was running fine up
> until
>>> a few hundred miles ago, then slowly deteriorated.
>>>
>>> Wouldn't a
> timing chain jumping be instantly noticeable? And, while
>>> possible, has
> anyone experienced a 1600 timing chain jumping? Isn't that
>>> more likely in
> the OHC engines (U20, L-series)?
>>>
>>> My money is on something more simple
> like floats and/or exhaust/vacuum
>>> leaks.
>>>
>>> This has been a fun thread.
> Eagerly awaiting the resolution!
>>>
>>>
>>> Pete
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From tputland at charter.net  Thu Nov 29 18:19:59 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 20:19:59 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] NOS R16 crank anyone?
Message-ID: <5dfc1f08.22a0d5.13b4ee61317.Webtop.43@charter.net>

As the subject says, I have a NOS R16 crank I'd like to sell. I don't 
post this in the classified section on 311a since I don't know what to 
ask for it and you have to post a price on that site in order to post 
'for sale'.

So, anyone need a NOS R16 crank?

What's it worth?

Make me an offer?

Thanks for your time.
tim

From primodonna1 at juno.com  Thu Nov 29 18:20:32 2012
From: primodonna1 at juno.com (primodonna1 at juno.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:20:32 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
Message-ID: <20121129.202032.22386.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com>

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Linda J <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
To: Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 15:52:59 -0800

You can also get a pump rebuild kit from the Rallye site where the information
is.

PD
====

Not sure if you checked your pump for leaks out the bottom weep hole. If
leaking you can get a good rebuild kit from Schluderm on EBAY or his website.
Only IF you have one of the rebuilable pumps as described on the Rallye
website.

Linda

Sent from my iPod

On Nov 29, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net> wrote:


____________________________________________________________
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu Nov 29 19:01:11 2012
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 02:01:11 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] NOS R16 crank anyone?
Message-ID: <324502899-1354240871-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-596616388-@b4.c20.bise6.blackberry>

It's worth what someone is willing to pay. Yuk! Yuk! Yuk!

Seriously, NOS??? As in brand new never installed? Gotta be a story there. 

You should also have added whether 3 or 5 main bearings. 

Pete 
------Original Message------
From: Tim Putland
Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: [Roadsters] NOS R16 crank anyone?
Sent: Nov 29, 2012 5:19 PM

As the subject says, I have a NOS R16 crank I'd like to sell. I don't 
post this in the classified section on 311a since I don't know what to 
ask for it and you have to post a price on that site in order to post 
'for sale'.

So, anyone need a NOS R16 crank?

What's it worth?

Make me an offer?

Thanks for your time.
tim
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From tputland at charter.net  Fri Nov 30 06:07:25 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 08:07:25 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] NOS R16 crank anyone?
Message-ID: <60def83c.aaebc.13b516dc290.Webtop.49@charter.net>

DOH! YEA, thanks Pete...when I was a kid we called it: 
SHUTAS....meaning.... Severe Head Up The Ass Syndrome (you can all use 
the "SHUTAS" but you MUST give credit to me! ha)

Anyway...

It is a 5 main...part number 12200-A7410

I have pics posted here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/82293958 at N06/8230609947/

and

http://www.flickr.com/photos/82293958 at N06/8231670086/


tim

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 8:01 PM, ppeters914 at comcast.net wrote:

> It's worth what someone is willing to pay. Yuk! Yuk! Yuk!
>
> Seriously, NOS??? As in brand new never installed? Gotta be a story 
> there.
> You should also have added whether 3 or 5 main bearings.
> Pete ------Original Message------
> From: Tim Putland
> Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> To: Datsun Roadster List
> Subject: [Roadsters] NOS R16 crank anyone?
> Sent: Nov 29, 2012 5:19 PM
>
> As the subject says, I have a NOS R16 crank I'd like to sell. I don't 
> post this in the classified section on 311a since I don't know what to 
> ask for it and you have to post a price on that site in order to post 
> 'for sale'.
>
> So, anyone need a NOS R16 crank?
>
> What's it worth?
>
> Make me an offer?
>
> Thanks for your time.
> tim
> ________________________________________

From muncie4spd2002 at yahoo.com  Fri Nov 30 17:43:09 2012
From: muncie4spd2002 at yahoo.com (muncie4spd2002 at yahoo.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 16:43:09 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
In-Reply-To: <8CF9C8202F69450-1DD0-2FACD@webmail-m144.sysops.aol.com>
References: <1581677030.671741.1354214627378.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<8CF9C8202F69450-1DD0-2FACD@webmail-m144.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <64CB8369-C788-435A-AC28-8876F1DD5C67@yahoo.com>

When I raced my non-solex 2L it needed 4psi min doing frequent WOT bursts

Sent from my iPhone. Pls forgive it's auto-correct.

On Nov 29, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Gary Lasater <barterdude at aol.com> wrote:

> I have been running electric fuel pumps that I bought at most any auto
parts
> store that run the 2- 5 lb. range without problems for years.  Had on 1500,
> 1600, and 2000 models with great results.  Mounted on the frame just in
front
> of the rear wheels.  Also eliminated the metal fuel lines in the engine
> compartment and went with the rubber tubing to help with any vapor locking
> potentials.
>
> Gary Lasater
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
> To: Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
> Cc: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:48 am
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
>
>
> Not sure on the SU's. For the Mikunis it's around 3.5 psi.
>
>
> Gordon Glasgow
> Renton, WA
> www.gordon-glasgow.org
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roy Haslett" <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
> To: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
> Cc: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>, "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net"
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 10:34:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
>
>
> whats the correct psi Gordon?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
> To: Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
> Cc: Tim <tputland at charter.net>; datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 10:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
>
>
>
>
> Before you buy a new fuel pump, invest in a fuel pressure gauge. Lots
cheaper
> than a pump.
>
>
> Gordon Glasgow
> Renton, WA
> www.gordon-glasgow.org
>
>
> From: "Roy Haslett" <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
> To: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>, "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net "
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:56:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
>
> Thank You everyone for all the excellent suggestions. B I have set all
valves
> and points. B Next I will set timing, then move to carb/linkage adjustment.
> Also considering replacing fuel pump as all filters are clear/clean.
> Roy
> ________________________________
> B From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
> To:
> datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent:
> Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning
> issues
> B
> I have (as usual) nothing new to add. But, I will echo what others
> have said as well as Paul below. And also add that my running issues got
> worse
> and worse on my tired 1600 as the exhaust leak at the manifold got worse.
> Still waiting on my machinist to finish the head on my stroker. One step
> forward, two steps back.....sigh
>
> tim
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Paul
> Kort wrote:
>
>> Even on the race R16s, spinning up to 8000 rpms, we never had a
> timing
>> chain jump.
>>
>> B  back to basics, set the valve clearance, set the
> ignition timing, then
>> work on the carbs.
>>
>> Paul
>> Ohio
>>
>> On Wed, Nov
> 28, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
> According to Roy, the head was rebuilt at 5k; the motor at 20k (was the
> timing chain/gears replaced at that time?). Engine was running fine up
> until
>>> a few hundred miles ago, then slowly deteriorated.
>>>
>>> Wouldn't a
> timing chain jumping be instantly noticeable? And, while
>>> possible, has
> anyone experienced a 1600 timing chain jumping? Isn't that
>>> more likely in
> the OHC engines (U20, L-series)?
>>>
>>> My money is on something more simple
> like floats and/or exhaust/vacuum
>>> leaks.
>>>
>>> This has been a fun thread.
> Eagerly awaiting the resolution!
>>>
>>>
>>> Pete
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