From spl310 at hotmail.com Tue May 1 06:56:53 2012 From: spl310 at hotmail.com (sidney raper) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 08:56:53 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Tom Phelan Message-ID: Hello all, I am trying to get in touch with Tom Phelan. If anyone has contact info for him, please let him know that I am trying to reach him. Thanks! Sidney Raper Jacksonville Florida From greg at bciitv.com Tue May 1 09:35:07 2012 From: greg at bciitv.com (Greg Glass) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 08:35:07 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Burbank to Solvang in 4 mins Message-ID: <9A9A31435677CB4CB9D69FFA85B0E5D162EC5CB9D9@bciexchange.bciitv.local> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu2lwZm1aIU Here's a time lapse video I shot driving from Burbank, CA to Solvang last Saturday for the show. This is I5 to I118 through Moorepark and into Ventura and then up the 101 to Santa Barbara. Then over the 154 Cachuma pass and into Solvang. Enjoy! Fun Drive. Greg Glass 66 1600 From greg at bciitv.com Tue May 1 09:37:34 2012 From: greg at bciitv.com (Greg Glass) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 08:37:34 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Burbank to Solvang in 4 mins Message-ID: <9A9A31435677CB4CB9D69FFA85B0E5D162EC5CB9DB@bciexchange.bciitv.local> Oh, and as you can see I have a problem with my hood latch. If anyone out there has a 66 female hood latch assembly with the metal piece that pulls back and forth by the cable, I need one. Thanks. From: Greg Glass Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:35 AM To: 'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net' Subject: Burbank to Solvang in 4 mins http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu2lwZm1aIU Here's a time lapse video I shot driving from Burbank, CA to Solvang last Saturday for the show. This is I5 to I118 through Moorepark and into Ventura and then up the 101 to Santa Barbara. Then over the 154 Cachuma pass and into Solvang. Enjoy! Fun Drive. Greg Glass 66 1600 From ljordan704 at netscape.net Tue May 1 10:38:05 2012 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda Jordan) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 09:38:05 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Burbank to Solvang in 4 mins In-Reply-To: <9A9A31435677CB4CB9D69FFA85B0E5D162EC5CB9D9@bciexchange.bciitv.local> References: <9A9A31435677CB4CB9D69FFA85B0E5D162EC5CB9D9@bciexchange.bciitv.local> Message-ID: <52A810C3-A93D-4DD3-8DEF-1570C3029087@netscape.net> Neat. You should post that on 311 site too. Pesky hood problem I see.... Linda Sent from my iPod On May 1, 2012, at 8:35 AM, Greg Glass wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu2lwZm1aIU > > Here's a time lapse video I shot driving from Burbank, CA to Solvang last > Saturday for the show. > This is I5 to I118 through Moorepark and into Ventura and then up the 101 to > Santa Barbara. > Then over the 154 Cachuma pass and into Solvang. > Enjoy! Fun Drive. > > Greg Glass > 66 1600 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From roadsterx at hotmail.com Tue May 1 10:49:22 2012 From: roadsterx at hotmail.com (michael poorboy) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 16:49:22 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Burbank to Solvang in 4 mins In-Reply-To: <9A9A31435677CB4CB9D69FFA85B0E5D162EC5CB9DB@bciexchange.bciitv.local> References: <9A9A31435677CB4CB9D69FFA85B0E5D162EC5CB9DB@bciexchange.bciitv.local> Message-ID: Greg, Great video !! I thought you were on the 118 but it was moving so fast it was hard to tell. I traveled those roads so many times I could do it it my sleep :) I need to get back to Solvang Roadster show someday . My last visit was 95' :( . It is kind of funny that I noticed that your hood was up and on your second post you mentioned it . Mike > From: greg at bciitv.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 08:37:34 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Burbank to Solvang in 4 mins > > Oh, and as you can see I have a problem with my hood latch. If anyone out > there has a 66 female hood latch assembly with the metal piece that pulls back > and forth by the cable, I need one. Thanks. > > From: Greg Glass > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:35 AM > To: 'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net' > Subject: Burbank to Solvang in 4 mins > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu2lwZm1aIU > > Here's a time lapse video I shot driving from Burbank, CA to Solvang last > Saturday for the show. > This is I5 to I118 through Moorepark and into Ventura and then up the 101 to > Santa Barbara. > Then over the 154 Cachuma pass and into Solvang. > Enjoy! Fun Drive. > > Greg Glass > 66 1600 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadsterx at hotmail.com From spl310 at hotmail.com Tue May 1 11:48:25 2012 From: spl310 at hotmail.com (sidney raper) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 13:48:25 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Kurt Wiesner Message-ID: Me again. I am still looking for Tom Phelan, and now I am looking for Kurt Wiesner as well. Sidney Raper Jacksonville Florida From mingocast at gmail.com Tue May 1 12:28:46 2012 From: mingocast at gmail.com (Domingo Castilleja) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 13:28:46 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Cleaning Chrome Wheels Message-ID: Any suggestions on the best method for cleaning chrome wheels that have some rust on them? mingocast From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com Tue May 1 13:25:05 2012 From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 15:25:05 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Cleaning Chrome Wheels In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pepsi. Or at least that's what Dad always used on chrome bumpers. Paul Ohio On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Domingo Castilleja wrote: > Any suggestions on the best method for cleaning chrome wheels that have > some rust on them? > mingocast > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com From hrhaslett at yahoo.com Tue May 1 15:04:09 2012 From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 14:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Cleaning Chrome Wheels In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1335906249.95489.YahooMailNeo@web130201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> #7 Chrome and Metal Polish. Get it at any Auto Parts store Roy ________________________________ From: Paul Kort To: Domingo Castilleja Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cleaning Chrome Wheels Pepsi. Or at least that's what Dad always used on chrome bumpers. Paul Ohio On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Domingo Castilleja wrote: > Any suggestions on the best method for cleaning chrome wheels that have > some rust on them? > mingocast > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/paulsdatsunstuff at gmail .com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/hrhaslett at yahoo.com From jover4x4 at aol.com Tue May 1 15:23:43 2012 From: jover4x4 at aol.com (jover4x4 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 15:23:43 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Cleaning Chrome Wheels In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47c4ce47-427a-471a-8a9a-32e99766628a@blur> Try SOS pads with water and scrub away. John Over Wycroc.org Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Domingo Castilleja To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, May 1, 2012 19:11:29 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Roadsters] Cleaning Chrome Wheels Any suggestions on the best method for cleaning chrome wheels that have some rust on them? mingocast ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/jover4x4 at aol.com From hrhaslett at yahoo.com Tue May 1 16:34:09 2012 From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 15:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Cleaning Chrome Wheels In-Reply-To: <47c4ce47-427a-471a-8a9a-32e99766628a@blur> References: <47c4ce47-427a-471a-8a9a-32e99766628a@blur> Message-ID: <1335911649.17043.YahooMailNeo@web130204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Another product you may try is called CLR (Calcium, Lime, Rust). Supossed to take care of rust very easily, and no scratching. Get it at Home Depot and similar stores. ________________________________ From: "jover4x4 at aol.com" To: Domingo Castilleja ; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cleaning Chrome Wheels Try SOS pads with water and scrub away. John Over Wycroc.org Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Domingo Castilleja To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, May 1, 2012 19:11:29 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Roadsters] Cleaning Chrome Wheels Any suggestions on the best method for cleaning chrome wheels that have some rust on them? mingocast ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/jover4x4 at aol.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/hrhaslett at yahoo.com From dynaguy54 at hotmail.com Tue May 1 20:37:36 2012 From: dynaguy54 at hotmail.com (Pat Mahoney) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 19:37:36 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Cleaning Chrome Wheels In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You might surprised how well very fine steel wool cleans them up. > Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 13:28:46 -0500 > From: mingocast at gmail.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Cleaning Chrome Wheels > > Any suggestions on the best method for cleaning chrome wheels that have > some rust on them? > mingocast > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/dynaguy54 at hotmail.com From mingocast at gmail.com Wed May 2 09:21:30 2012 From: mingocast at gmail.com (Domingo Castilleja) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:21:30 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas Tank Message-ID: I need to have the gas tank cleaned. Any suggestions. mingocast From tom at datsun2000.com Wed May 2 10:04:36 2012 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 09:04:36 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel line question Message-ID: When the mechanical fuel pump failed on Mr. Hyde I purchased a Master Mechanic 12S electric fuel pump as a replacement. Since I had to have the car early the next day I temporarily installed the new pump under the hood and used the existing rubber lines to connect to the line from the tank and carbs. It worked fine, but being ty-wrapped to the upper radiator hose is not the best long term installation choice. Now I have moved the pump and mounted it at the correct angle according to the manufacturers instructions just ahead of the rear axle and made new hard line and rubber connections to the pump. No gas is flowing through the pump. I suspect air is entering the connection where the new hard line connects to the tank using a new brass fitting, or I am connecting the pump to the return tube rather than the pickup tube. My question is which of the two fuel line connections to the fuel tank is the pickup line? One enters the tank a little lower than the other. I believe this is the fuel pickup line. If I am on the correct tube I will go back to the original tank connection to insure an airtight seal at the joint and make a short rubber hose connection between the new and old hard lines. Tom 29 2000 - Mr. Hyde Las Vegas http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org From sandhoff at csus.edu Wed May 2 10:44:14 2012 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 09:44:14 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel line question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4FA101EE.15110.2FBD40@localhost> > My question is which of the two fuel line connections to the fuel tank is > the pickup line? As Tom notes, later cars have a second fuel connection at the tank. The SMALLER pipe is the fuel feed and is where the pump draws from. The LARGER pipe is the fuel return and terminates inside the tank at about the half-full level. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From tputland at charter.net Wed May 2 10:54:21 2012 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 12:54:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Gas Tank Message-ID: <190f09b7.129751.1370e79558c.Webtop.46@charter.net> Had mine done at a local radiator shop in Madison, WI. They sealed it for me as well. tim On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Domingo Castilleja wrote: > I need to have the gas tank cleaned. Any suggestions. > mingocast > ________________________________________ From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Wed May 2 15:10:26 2012 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 17:10:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Three main bearing crank Message-ID: Anyone out there have a three main bearing crank that would fit a G series 1500? Shop screwed up my last donor crank by not checking line bore on the block for my 1963 1500 Fairlady. If memory serves correct the early 1600's works (prior to mid 67). Need to keep matching numbers on the block for this rare single carb car. Let me know at your earliest convenience. Thanks. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) / _www.ZRoad.org_ (http://www.zroad.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1967 SPL311-09144 From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Wed May 2 15:16:25 2012 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 17:16:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Three main bearing crank Message-ID: Anyone out there have a three main bearing crank that would fit a G series 1500? Shop screwed up my last donor crank by not checking line bore on the block for my 1963 1500 Fairlady. If memory serves correct the early 1600's works (prior to mid 67). Need to keep matching numbers on the block for this rare single carb car. Let me know at your earliest convenience. Thanks. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) / _www.ZRoad.org_ (http://www.zroad.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1967 SPL311-09144 From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed May 2 16:14:51 2012 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 22:14:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Three main bearing crank In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <47896349.2517327.1335996891813.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> You sure? The G15 crank has shorter throws (74mm stroke). That's how Darryl stroked his 3-main R16 to 1800. If not, I may have a crank for you. Will know for sure after we breakdown another R16. Number five in a quest to find a rebuildable candidate.....sigh..... Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com To: wycroc at yahoogroups.com, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 2:10:26 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Three main bearing crank Anyone out there have a three main bearing crank that would fit a G series 1500? Shop screwed up my last donor crank by not checking line bore on the block for my 1963 1500 Fairlady. If memory serves correct the early 1600's works (prior to mid 67). Need to keep matching numbers on the block for this rare single carb car. Let me know at your earliest convenience. Thanks. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) / _www.ZRoad.org_ (http://www.zroad.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1967 SPL311-09144 ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net From jover4x4 at aol.com Wed May 2 17:15:57 2012 From: jover4x4 at aol.com (jover4x4 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 17:15:57 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Three main bearing crank In-Reply-To: <47896349.2517327.1335996891813.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <47896349.2517327.1335996891813.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <79a5315b-8202-49a9-907d-ea05469bcf45@blur> The 1500 crank has a longer stroke than the 1600 3 main. John O Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Wed, May 2, 2012 22:54:04 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Three main bearing crank You sure? The G15 crank has shorter throws (74mm stroke). That's how Darryl stroked his 3-main R16 to 1800. If not, I may have a crank for you. Will know for sure after we breakdown another R16. Number five in a quest to find a rebuildable candidate.....sigh..... Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com To: wycroc at yahoogroups.com, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 2:10:26 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Three main bearing crank Anyone out there have a three main bearing crank that would fit a G series 1500? Shop screwed up my last donor crank by not checking line bore on the block for my 1963 1500 Fairlady. If memory serves correct the early 1600's works (prior to mid 67). Need to keep matching numbers on the block for this rare single carb car. Let me know at your earliest convenience. Thanks. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) / _www.ZRoad.org_ (http://www.zroad.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1967 SPL311-09144 ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/jover4x4 at aol.com From tom at datsun2000.com Wed May 2 22:07:51 2012 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 21:07:51 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel line question Message-ID: Thanks for the correcton on the tank pipes. The smaller pipe enters the tank at a point higher than the larger pipe. Now to drain a couple of gallons from the tank and plumb it correctly. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Las Vegas On 5/2/2012 9:44:14 AM, John F Sandhoff (sandhoff at csus.edu) wrote: > > My question is which of the two fuel line connections to the fuel tank > is > > the pickup line? > > As Tom notes, later cars have a second fuel connection at the tank. > The SMALLER pipe is the fuel feed and is where the pump draws > from. The LARGER pipe is the fuel return and terminates inside the > tank at about the half-full level. > > -- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4972 - Release Date: 05/01/12 From futofab at gsinet.net Thu May 3 11:58:58 2012 From: futofab at gsinet.net (David Patten) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 13:58:58 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 50th Anniverasary Roadster Grill Badges Message-ID: Working with Ed Snider, the gentleman that produced the Roadster 3/4 rear veiw image, we have created a 50th anniversary commemorative grill badge for the Roadster. An order of 50 has been placed by FutoFab using this design. The manufacturer's ship date to us is approximately May 30th, meaning we will be able to ship sometime the first full week of June. Rather than going thru a group buy process, we have decided to kick off the sale of these commemorative badges by taking advanced orders thru FutoFab at a reduced rate. All orders thru May 20, 2012 on the first 20 badges will be at $29.00/each plus shipping. After May 20th or after the first 20 badges are sold (whichever comes first) the price will be $39.00/each. Shipping is $6 ($13 to Canada) for up to 4 badges. Payments can be made by PayPal to Dave at FutoFab.com or we can issue an electronic invoice, payable by credit card, by emailing us at that same address with your order details. When ordering please remember to include your mailing address, PayPal does not automatically include it. Link to image of the grill badge proof: http://datsun510.com/photopost/data/3587/Datsun-Roadster-Badge.jpg -- Dave Patten, Owner FutoFab, LLC 199 Stark Hwy So Dunbarton, NH 03046 Website - www.FutoFab.com e-mail - dave at futofab.com From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com Thu May 3 12:16:03 2012 From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 14:16:03 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: 50th Anniverasary Roadster Grill Badges In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Big Thank You to David for getting on top of this and making it happen. I know there were several ideas kicking around for what the badge should look like, but nobody else was willing to decide and start an order (Including me!). I sent in my order today! Paul 1969 1600 (now KA24E powered) Ohio ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Patten Date: Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:58 PM Subject: 50th Anniversary Roadster Grill Badges To: Datsun Roadster List , DRONE - E-Mail List Cc: Paul Kort Working with Ed Snider, the gentleman that produced the Roadster 3/4 rear veiw image, we have created a 50th anniversary commemorative grill badge for the Roadster. An order of 50 has been placed by FutoFab using this design. The manufacturer's ship date to us is approximately May 30th, meaning we will be able to ship sometime the first full week of June. Rather than going thru a group buy process, we have decided to kick off the sale of these commemorative badges by taking advanced orders thru FutoFab at a reduced rate. All orders thru May 20, 2012 on the first 20 badges will be at $29.00/each plus shipping. After May 20th or after the first 20 badges are sold (whichever comes first) the price will be $39.00/each. Shipping is $6 ($13 to Canada) for up to 4 badges. Payments can be made by PayPal to Dave at FutoFab.com or we can issue an electronic invoice, payable by credit card, by emailing us at that same address with your order details. When ordering please remember to include your mailing address, PayPal does not automatically include it. Link to image of the grill badge proof: http://datsun510.com/photopost/data/3587/Datsun-Roadster-Badge.jpg -- Dave Patten, Owner FutoFab, LLC 199 Stark Hwy So Dunbarton, NH 03046 Website - www.FutoFab.com e-mail - dave at futofab.com From d_kroninger at hotmail.com Thu May 3 13:40:01 2012 From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 14:40:01 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: 50th Anniverasary Roadster Grill Badges In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Agreed! I ordered mine too! Nice work Dave and Ed! Sent from my iPhone On May 3, 2012, at 2:38 PM, "Paul Kort" wrote: > Big Thank You to David for getting on top of this and making it happen. > I know there were several ideas kicking around for what the badge should > look like, but nobody else was willing to decide and start an order > (Including me!). I sent in my order today! > > Paul > 1969 1600 (now KA24E powered) > Ohio > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: David Patten > Date: Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:58 PM > Subject: 50th Anniversary Roadster Grill Badges > To: Datsun Roadster List , DRONE - E-Mail > List > Cc: Paul Kort > > > Working with Ed Snider, the gentleman that produced the Roadster 3/4 rear > veiw image, we have created a 50th anniversary commemorative grill badge > for the Roadster. > > > > An order of 50 has been placed by FutoFab using this design. The > manufacturer's ship date to us is approximately May 30th, meaning we will > be able to ship sometime the first full week of June. > > > > Rather than going thru a group buy process, we have decided to kick off the > sale of these commemorative badges by taking advanced orders thru FutoFab > at a reduced rate. All orders thru May 20, 2012 on the first 20 badges will > be at $29.00/each plus shipping. After May 20th or after the first 20 > badges are sold (whichever comes first) the price will be $39.00/each. > > > > Shipping is $6 ($13 to Canada) for up to 4 badges. > > > > > Payments can be made by PayPal to Dave at FutoFab.com or we can issue an > electronic invoice, payable by credit card, by emailing us at that same > address with your order details. > > > > When ordering please remember to include your mailing address, PayPal does > not automatically include it. > > > > Link to image of the grill badge proof: > > http://datsun510.com/photopost/data/3587/Datsun-Roadster-Badge.jpg > -- > Dave Patten, Owner > > FutoFab, LLC > 199 Stark Hwy So > Dunbarton, NH 03046 > > Website - www.FutoFab.com > e-mail - dave at futofab.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/d_kroninger at hotmail.co m From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Thu May 3 13:46:52 2012 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 12:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: 50th Anniverasary Roadster Grill Badges In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1336074412.2092.YahooMailClassic@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I second that -- and I have sent my order in, too! Gary McCormick San Jose, CA '70 2000 SRL311-13291 --- On Thu, 5/3/12, Paul Kort wrote: From: Paul Kort Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: 50th Anniverasary Roadster Grill Badges To: "Roadster Stuff" Date: Thursday, May 3, 2012, 11:16 AM Big Thank You to David for getting on top of this and making it happen. I know there were several ideas kicking around for what the badge should look like, but nobody else was willing to decide and start an order (Including me!). I sent in my order today! Paul 1969 1600 (now KA24E powered) Ohio ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Patten Date: Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:58 PM Subject: 50th Anniversary Roadster Grill Badges To: Datsun Roadster List , DRONE - E-Mail List Cc: Paul Kort Working with Ed Snider, the gentleman that produced the Roadster 3/4 rear veiw image, we have created a 50th anniversary commemorative grill badge for the Roadster. An order of 50 has been placed by FutoFab using this design. The manufacturer's ship date to us is approximately May 30th, meaning we will be able to ship sometime the first full week of June. Rather than going thru a group buy process, we have decided to kick off the sale of these commemorative badges by taking advanced orders thru FutoFab at a reduced rate. All orders thru May 20, 2012 on the first 20 badges will be at $29.00/each plus shipping. After May 20th or after the first 20 badges are sold (whichever comes first) the price will be $39.00/each. Shipping is $6 ($13 to Canada) for up to 4 badges. Payments can be made by PayPal to Dave at FutoFab.com or we can issue an electronic invoice, payable by credit card, by emailing us at that same address with your order details. When ordering please remember to include your mailing address, PayPal does not automatically include it. Link to image of the grill badge proof: http://datsun510.com/photopost/data/3587/Datsun-Roadster-Badge.jpg -- Dave Patten, Owner FutoFab, LLC 199 Stark Hwy So Dunbarton, NH 03046 Website - www.FutoFab.com e-mail - dave at futofab.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Thu May 3 14:07:44 2012 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 13:07:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 50th Anniversary Roadster Grill Badges In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1336075664.39116.YahooMailClassic@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Grill badge ordered and paid for! Now I just have to sit by the mailbox and waitb& ;^) Gary McCormick San Jose, CA '70 2000 SRL311-13291 --- On Thu, 5/3/12, David Patten wrote: From: David Patten Subject: [Roadsters] 50th Anniverasary Roadster Grill Badges To: "Datsun Roadster List" , "DRONE - E-Mail List" Date: Thursday, May 3, 2012, 10:58 AM Working with Ed Snider, the gentleman that produced the Roadster 3/4 rear veiw image, we have created a 50th anniversary commemorative grill badge for the Roadster. An order of 50 has been placed by FutoFab using this design. The manufacturer's ship date to us is approximately May 30th, meaning we will be able to ship sometime the first full week of June. Rather than going thru a group buy process, we have decided to kick off the sale of these commemorative badges by taking advanced orders thru FutoFab at a reduced rate. All orders thru May 20, 2012 on the first 20 badges will be at $29.00/each plus shipping. After May 20th or after the first 20 badges are sold (whichever comes first) the price will be $39.00/each. Shipping is $6 ($13 to Canada) for up to 4 badges. Payments can be made by PayPal to Dave at FutoFab.com or we can issue an electronic invoice, payable by credit card, by emailing us at that same address with your order details. When ordering please remember to include your mailing address, PayPal does not automatically include it. Link to image of the grill badge proof: http://datsun510.com/photopost/data/3587/Datsun-Roadster-Badge.jpg -- Dave Patten, Owner FutoFab, LLC 199 Stark Hwy So Dunbarton, NH 03046 Website - www.FutoFab.com e-mail - dave at futofab.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net From futofab at gsinet.net Thu May 3 15:07:10 2012 From: futofab at gsinet.net (David Patten) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 17:07:10 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: 50th Anniverasary Roadster Grill Badges In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: First - Thank you for all the response! WOW, that is all I can say, WOW !!!! We have sold over 20 50th Anniversary Roadster Grill Badges, cash in hand, in a very short period of time. As a result FutoFab will continue to offer Datsun Roadster badges to buyers at $29/ea (limit one per customer, more can be purchsed at $39/ea) until Midnight tonight (EDT). Payment must be made online or other payment arrangements made prior to the deadline. This offer will end at Midnight tonight with no exception, so get on board so you don't miss out. Thank you all for your purchases. -- Dave Patten, Owner FutoFab, LLC 199 Stark Hwy So Dunbarton, NH 03046 Website - www.FutoFab.com e-mail - dave at futofab.com On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Paul Kort wrote: > Big Thank You to David for getting on top of this and making it happen. > I know there were several ideas kicking around for what the badge should > look like, but nobody else was willing to decide and start an order > (Including me!). I sent in my order today! > > Paul > 1969 1600 (now KA24E powered) > Ohio > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: David Patten > Date: Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:58 PM > Subject: 50th Anniversary Roadster Grill Badges > To: Datsun Roadster List , DRONE - E-Mail > List > Cc: Paul Kort > > > Working with Ed Snider, the gentleman that produced the Roadster 3/4 rear > veiw image, we have created a 50th anniversary commemorative grill badge > for the Roadster. > > > > An order of 50 has been placed by FutoFab using this design. The > manufacturer's ship date to us is approximately May 30th, meaning we will > be able to ship sometime the first full week of June. > > > > Rather than going thru a group buy process, we have decided to kick off the > sale of these commemorative badges by taking advanced orders thru FutoFab > at a reduced rate. All orders thru May 20, 2012 on the first 20 badges will > be at $29.00/each plus shipping. After May 20th or after the first 20 > badges are sold (whichever comes first) the price will be $39.00/each. > > > > Shipping is $6 ($13 to Canada) for up to 4 badges. > > > > > Payments can be made by PayPal to Dave at FutoFab.com or we can issue an > electronic invoice, payable by credit card, by emailing us at that same > address with your order details. > > > > When ordering please remember to include your mailing address, PayPal does > not automatically include it. > > > > Link to image of the grill badge proof: > > http://datsun510.com/photopost/data/3587/Datsun-Roadster-Badge.jpg > -- > Dave Patten, Owner > > FutoFab, LLC > 199 Stark Hwy So > Dunbarton, NH 03046 > > Website - www.FutoFab.com < > http://www.futofab.com/> > e-mail - dave at futofab.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/futofab at gsinet.net > > > -- Dave Patten, Owner FutoFab, LLC 199 Stark Hwy So Dunbarton, NH 03046 Website - www.FutoFab.com e-mail - dave at futofab.com From tputland at charter.net Thu May 3 15:17:40 2012 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 17:17:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: 50th Anniverasary Roadster Grill Badges Message-ID: <139b144a.13b508.1371490c38c.Webtop.49@charter.net> Truth be told....Dan ordered for four of us.... On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Dan Kroninger wrote: > Agreed! I ordered mine too! Nice work Dave and Ed! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 3, 2012, at 2:38 PM, "Paul Kort" > wrote: > >> Big Thank You to David for getting on top of this and making it >> happen. >> I know there were several ideas kicking around for what the badge >> should >> look like, but nobody else was willing to decide and start an order >> (Including me!). I sent in my order today! >> >> Paul >> 1969 1600 (now KA24E powered) >> Ohio >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: David Patten >> Date: Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:58 PM >> Subject: 50th Anniversary Roadster Grill Badges >> To: Datsun Roadster List , DRONE - >> E-Mail >> List >> Cc: Paul Kort >> >> >> Working with Ed Snider, the gentleman that produced the Roadster 3/4 >> rear >> veiw image, we have created a 50th anniversary commemorative grill >> badge >> for the Roadster. >> >> >> >> An order of 50 has been placed by FutoFab using this design. The >> manufacturer's ship date to us is approximately May 30th, meaning we >> will >> be able to ship sometime the first full week of June. >> >> >> >> Rather than going thru a group buy process, we have decided to kick >> off the >> sale of these commemorative badges by taking advanced orders thru >> FutoFab >> at a reduced rate. All orders thru May 20, 2012 on the first 20 >> badges will >> be at $29.00/each plus shipping. After May 20th or after the first 20 >> badges are sold (whichever comes first) the price will be >> $39.00/each. >> >> >> >> Shipping is $6 ($13 to Canada) for up to 4 badges. >> >> >> >> >> Payments can be made by PayPal to Dave at FutoFab.com or we can issue an >> electronic invoice, payable by credit card, by emailing us at that >> same >> address with your order details. >> >> >> >> When ordering please remember to include your mailing address, PayPal >> does >> not automatically include it. >> >> >> >> Link to image of the grill badge proof: >> >> http://datsun510.com/photopost/data/3587/Datsun-Roadster-Badge.jpg >> -- >> Dave Patten, Owner >> >> FutoFab, LLC >> 199 Stark Hwy So >> Dunbarton, NH 03046 >> >> Website - www.FutoFab.com >> e-mail - dave at futofab.com >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/d_kroninger at hotmail.co > m > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From sfdaugherty01 at msn.com Thu May 3 15:32:17 2012 From: sfdaugherty01 at msn.com (SHANNON F DAUGHERTY) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 15:32:17 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] 50th Anniverasary Roadster Grill Badges In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I placed my order too. Thanks Dave! Shannon On May 3, 2012, at 12:40 PM, "David Patten" wrote: > Working with Ed Snider, the gentleman that produced the Roadster 3/4 rear > veiw image, we have created a 50th anniversary commemorative grill badge > for the Roadster. > > > > An order of 50 has been placed by FutoFab using this design. The > manufacturer's ship date to us is approximately May 30th, meaning we will > be able to ship sometime the first full week of June. > > > > Rather than going thru a group buy process, we have decided to kick off the > sale of these commemorative badges by taking advanced orders thru FutoFab > at a reduced rate. All orders thru May 20, 2012 on the first 20 badges will > be at $29.00/each plus shipping. After May 20th or after the first 20 > badges are sold (whichever comes first) the price will be $39.00/each. > > > > Shipping is $6 ($13 to Canada) for up to 4 badges. > > > > > Payments can be made by PayPal to Dave at FutoFab.com or we can issue an > electronic invoice, payable by credit card, by emailing us at that same > address with your order details. > > > > When ordering please remember to include your mailing address, PayPal does > not automatically include it. > > > > Link to image of the grill badge proof: > > http://datsun510.com/photopost/data/3587/Datsun-Roadster-Badge.jpg > -- > Dave Patten, Owner > > FutoFab, LLC > 199 Stark Hwy So > Dunbarton, NH 03046 > > Website - www.FutoFab.com > e-mail - dave at futofab.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/sfdaugherty01 at msn.com From futofab at gsinet.net Thu May 3 16:09:43 2012 From: futofab at gsinet.net (David Patten) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 18:09:43 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 50th Anniverasary Roadster Grill Badges In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Drew, Here is my offering for Roadster Badges -- Dave Patten, Owner FutoFab, LLC 199 Stark Hwy So Dunbarton, NH 03046 Website - www.FutoFab.com e-mail - dave at futofab.com On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:58 PM, David Patten wrote: > Working with Ed Snider, the gentleman that produced the Roadster 3/4 > rear veiw image, we have created a 50th anniversary commemorative grill > badge for the Roadster. > > > > An order of 50 has been placed by FutoFab using this design. The > manufacturer's ship date to us is approximately May 30th, meaning we will > be able to ship sometime the first full week of June. > > > > Rather than going thru a group buy process, we have decided to kick off > the sale of these commemorative badges by taking advanced orders thru > FutoFab at a reduced rate. All orders thru May 20, 2012 on the first 20 > badges will be at $29.00/each plus shipping. After May 20th or after the > first 20 badges are sold (whichever comes first) the price will be > $39.00/each. > > > > Shipping is $6 ($13 to Canada) for up to 4 badges. > > > > > Payments can be made by PayPal to Dave at FutoFab.com or we can issue an > electronic invoice, payable by credit card, by emailing us at that same > address with your order details. > > > > When ordering please remember to include your mailing address, PayPal does > not automatically include it. > > > > Link to image of the grill badge proof: > > http://datsun510.com/photopost/data/3587/Datsun-Roadster-Badge.jpg > -- > Dave Patten, Owner > > FutoFab, LLC > 199 Stark Hwy So > Dunbarton, NH 03046 > > Website - www.FutoFab.com > e-mail - dave at futofab.com From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Thu May 3 18:30:20 2012 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 20:30:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 50th Anniverasary Roadster Grill Badges Message-ID: <1e316.5dd86602.3cd47d1c@aol.com> Guys - the 50th is 1963 to 2013, that's why I started the dialogue this year to get a full year on prep for the 50th anniversary event. The full production of the Fairlady started with 1963. Hate to see things get printed with the wrong dates in my humble opinion. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) / _www.ZRoad.org_ (http://www.zroad.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1967 SPL311-09144 In a message dated 5/3/2012 12:41:43 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, futofab at gsinet.net writes: http://datsun510.com/photopost/data/3587/Datsun-Roadster-Badge.jpg From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Thu May 3 18:36:01 2012 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 20:36:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Correction Message-ID: <1e559.110767d4.3cd47e71@aol.com> I have been alerted that the 1500 crank has a longer stoke than the early 1600, so my search for the three main bearing crank needs to be strictly the 1500. Thanks to those than offered their early 1600 cranks. Any suggestions as to any junk yards, or someone you may know who has or had a 1500 G series motor, would greatly be appreciated. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) / _www.ZRoad.org_ (http://www.zroad.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1967 SPL311-09144 From chalsted at comcast.net Fri May 4 06:53:26 2012 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 12:53:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Three main bearing crank In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2093612950.1664756.1336136005071.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Gary, whenever I try to send you an e-mail it comes back as non-deliverable. I tried to send you the contact info for someone I sold 3 1500 engines to a couple years back but it came back. has happened before when I've tried to respond to your posts over the past couple years, if you have me blocked that's fine but I'm not going to take the time to try to respond to you anymore. has basically happened since the time I pointed out to you that your single carb 1500 was not in fact the earliest production 1500 known in existence... Craig From futofab at gsinet.net Fri May 4 09:15:29 2012 From: futofab at gsinet.net (David Patten) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 11:15:29 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: 50th Anniverasary Roadster Grill Badges In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Roadster and DRONE List Members, First, let me say thank you for the HUGE response on the Datsun Roadster 50 th Anniversary Badges. The initial reduced price offering sold out in 3 hours from my posting the offer. By the end of the extension to Midnight of last night the number had reached more than 40 sold. Those that contacted me before the deadline requesting electronic invoices or other arrangements on payment will still receive the reduced pricing, but going forward the price will be $39/each. For those that maybe late in acting, I have place an order for another 50 pieces, so dont worry that we may be sold out right away. Thank You All! If there is anything else we can do for you please do not hesitate to contact us. -- Dave Patten, Owner FutoFab, LLC 199 Stark Hwy So Dunbarton, NH 03046 Website - www.FutoFab.com e-mail - dave at futofab.com On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:07 PM, David Patten wrote: > First - Thank you for all the response! > > WOW, that is all I can say, WOW !!!! > > We have sold over 20 50th Anniversary Roadster Grill Badges, cash in hand, > in a very short period of time. > > As a result FutoFab will continue to offer Datsun Roadster badges to > buyers at $29/ea (limit one per customer, more can be purchsed at $39/ea) > until Midnight tonight (EDT). Payment must be made online or other payment > arrangements made prior to the deadline. > > This offer will end at Midnight tonight with no exception, so get on board > so you don't miss out. > > Thank you all for your purchases. > -- > Dave Patten, Owner > > FutoFab, LLC > 199 Stark Hwy So > Dunbarton, NH 03046 > > Website - www.FutoFab.com > e-mail - dave at futofab.com > > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Paul Kort wrote: > >> Big Thank You to David for getting on top of this and making it happen. >> I know there were several ideas kicking around for what the badge should >> look like, but nobody else was willing to decide and start an order >> (Including me!). I sent in my order today! >> >> Paul >> 1969 1600 (now KA24E powered) >> Ohio >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: David Patten >> Date: Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:58 PM >> Subject: 50th Anniversary Roadster Grill Badges >> To: Datsun Roadster List , DRONE - >> E-Mail >> List >> Cc: Paul Kort >> >> >> Working with Ed Snider, the gentleman that produced the Roadster 3/4 >> rear >> veiw image, we have created a 50th anniversary commemorative grill badge >> for the Roadster. >> >> >> >> An order of 50 has been placed by FutoFab using this design. The >> manufacturer's ship date to us is approximately May 30th, meaning we will >> be able to ship sometime the first full week of June. >> >> >> >> Rather than going thru a group buy process, we have decided to kick off >> the >> sale of these commemorative badges by taking advanced orders thru FutoFab >> at a reduced rate. All orders thru May 20, 2012 on the first 20 badges >> will >> be at $29.00/each plus shipping. After May 20th or after the first 20 >> badges are sold (whichever comes first) the price will be $39.00/each. >> >> >> >> Shipping is $6 ($13 to Canada) for up to 4 badges. >> >> >> >> >> Payments can be made by PayPal to Dave at FutoFab.com or we can issue an >> electronic invoice, payable by credit card, by emailing us at that same >> address with your order details. >> >> >> >> When ordering please remember to include your mailing address, PayPal does >> not automatically include it. >> >> >> >> Link to image of the grill badge proof: >> >> http://datsun510.com/photopost/data/3587/Datsun-Roadster-Badge.jpg >> -- >> Dave Patten, Owner >> >> FutoFab, LLC >> 199 Stark Hwy So >> Dunbarton, NH 03046 >> >> Website - www.FutoFab.com < >> http://www.futofab.com/> >> e-mail - dave at futofab.com >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/futofab at gsinet.net >> >> >> > > > -- > Dave Patten, Owner > > FutoFab, LLC > 199 Stark Hwy So > Dunbarton, NH 03046 > > Website - www.FutoFab.com > e-mail - dave at futofab.com From mingocast at gmail.com Fri May 4 10:17:10 2012 From: mingocast at gmail.com (Domingo Castilleja) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 11:17:10 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Slave Cylinder Message-ID: I need a replace the slave cylinder for my 1970 datsun spl311. Does anyone have a cross reference for this part? mingocast From futofab at gsinet.net Fri May 4 11:01:07 2012 From: futofab at gsinet.net (David Patten) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 13:01:07 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 310 Roadster - 1962 or 1963? Message-ID: There has been some disagreement on the first year of the 310 series Roadster. The 310 Roadster was first introduced to the public in the Fall of 1961 at the Tokyo Auto Show. The US public saw the car in April 1962 at the New York Auto Show. (There is a short video, more of a newsreel, of the 1962 New York Auto Show on the internet that shows the 310 Roadster, but I was unable to find it for a second time to provide a link.) Based on information provided in the book Datsun Fairlady Roadster to 280ZX, the Z Car Story by Brian Long, he states that the first SP310 roadsters (RHD) were 1962 with a total of 187 cars but the first to be exported were in 1963. So it is quite likely that the LHD SPL310, exported to the US was marketed as a 63 model but the original SP310 Roadster was considered a 1962 in the Japanese domestic market. Long admits that the earlier edition of his book had errors in production dates and numbers, which with the help of Nissan Shatai, he calls his later book to be the definitive details. Another source of stating the 310 as a 1962 is the Heritage Collection part of on Nissans Global website. There you will find the SP310 shown as year 1962. Link: http://www.nissan-global.com/EN/HERITAGE/datsun_fairlady_1500.html So while the SPL310 may have been marketed in the US as a 63 model it appears that Nissan considers the 310 Roadster started in 1962. While this information may not satisfy all, I feel comfortable that 1962 should be considered the first year of the 310 series Roadster when looked at on a global basis. -- Dave Patten, Owner FutoFab, LLC 199 Stark Hwy So Dunbarton, NH 03046 Website - www.FutoFab.com e-mail - dave at futofab.com From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com Fri May 4 12:09:53 2012 From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 14:09:53 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Slave Cylinder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I just took the old one in to my FLAPS, and they ordered me a new one. The same hydraulics, NABCO, was used on a bunch of different cars for years. Paul Ohio On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Domingo Castilleja wrote: > I need a replace the slave cylinder for my 1970 datsun spl311. Does anyone > have a cross reference for this part? > mingocast > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com From hrhaslett at yahoo.com Fri May 4 12:43:29 2012 From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 11:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Slave Cylinder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1336157009.8460.YahooMailNeo@web130205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Is the cylinder itself bad? Or is it just the internal piston and seal? You can get a rebuild kit from Beck Arnley (get the "Major" rebuild kit) for less than $20. Got to Amazon and search for it. Super easy to replace. Replace the slave hose while you are at it. Good Luck. Roy 67 low 1600 To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 9:17 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Slave Cylinder I need a replace the slave cylinder for my 1970 datsun spl311. Does anyone have a cross reference for this part? mingocast ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/hrhaslett at yahoo.com From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com Fri May 4 13:12:25 2012 From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 15:12:25 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 310 Roadster - 1962 or 1963? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: *The Complete Datsun Guide *by Michael F. Hollander shows the 310 began in 1962, but does not differentiate between Japanese and USA sales. *Fair Lady, Japan's First Sports Car *by Phill Brook, lists a 1962 model of the 310. But it lumps the production quantities with the '63 model. *Datsun Roadsters*, Brooklands Road Test Books, compiled by R.M. Clark, also lists the 310 as beginning in 1962. So, if you want to wait until next year to make a 50th grille badge, go right ahead. Who knows, I may even buy one. But for now, I'll gladly display David & Ed's design on my '69 roadster! Paul Kort 1969 1600 (now KA24E powered) Ohio On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:01 PM, David Patten wrote: > There has been some disagreement on the first year of the 310 series > Roadster. > > > > The 310 Roadster was first introduced to the public in the Fall of 1961 at > the Tokyo Auto Show. The US public saw the car in April 1962 at the New > York Auto Show. (There is a short video, more of a newsreel, of the 1962 > New York Auto Show on the internet that shows the 310 Roadster, but I was > unable to find it for a second time to provide a link.) > > > > Based on information provided in the book Datsun Fairlady Roadster to > 280ZX, the Z Car Story by Brian Long, he states that the first SP310 > roadsters (RHD) were 1962 with a total of 187 cars but the first to be > exported were in 1963. So it is quite likely that the LHD SPL310, exported > to the US was marketed as a 63 model but the original SP310 Roadster was > considered a 1962 in the Japanese domestic market. Long admits that the > earlier edition of his book had errors in production dates and numbers, > which with the help of Nissan Shatai, he calls his later book to be the > definitive details . > > > > Another source of stating the 310 as a 1962 is the Heritage Collection part > of on Nissan s Global website. There you will find the SP310 shown as year > 1962. > > Link: http://www.nissan-global.com/EN/HERITAGE/datsun_fairlady_1500.html > > > > So while the SPL310 may have been marketed in the US as a 63 model it > appears that Nissan considers the 310 Roadster started in 1962. > > > > While this information may not satisfy all, I feel comfortable that 1962 > should be considered the first year of the 310 series Roadster when looked > at on a global basis. > > -- > Dave Patten, Owner > > FutoFab, LLC > 199 Stark Hwy So > Dunbarton, NH 03046 > > Website - www.FutoFab.com > e-mail - dave at futofab.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Fri May 4 14:24:49 2012 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (Paul Courson) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 16:24:49 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 310 Roadster - 1962 or 1963? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dave, Thanks for sharing the basis for the 1962 reference. I did a search on google.jp and there are many references, photos, and literature that have the SPL310 linked with 1962, supporting that as year zero for the body style we are celebrating. A non-copyrighted photo appears to have been taken in a Nissan museum. Its file name is among the references I found. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/01/1962_Datsun_Fairlady _01.jpg/1024px-1962_Datsun_Fairlady_01.jpg Thanks for creating a nice car ornament. You've got my order. Paul C. Annapolis, Maryland On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:01 PM, David Patten wrote: > There has been some disagreement on the first year of the 310 series > Roadster. > > > > The 310 Roadster was first introduced to the public in the Fall of 1961 at > the Tokyo Auto Show. The US public saw the car in April 1962 at the New > York Auto Show. (There is a short video, more of a newsreel, of the 1962 > New York Auto Show on the internet that shows the 310 Roadster, but I was > unable to find it for a second time to provide a link.) > > > > Based on information provided in the book B Datsun Fairlady Roadster to > 280ZX, the Z Car Story B by Brian Long, he states that the first SP310 > roadsters (RHD) were 1962 with a total of 187 cars but the first to be > exported were in 1963. So it is quite likely that the LHD SPL310, exported > to the US was marketed as a B 63 model but the original SP310 Roadster was > considered a 1962 in the Japanese domestic market. Long admits that the > earlier edition of his book had errors in production dates and numbers, > which with the help of Nissan Shatai, he calls his later book to be B the > definitive details . > > > > Another source of stating the 310 as a 1962 is the Heritage Collection part > of on Nissan s Global website. There you will find the SP310 shown as year > 1962. > > Link: http://www.nissan-global.com/EN/HERITAGE/datsun_fairlady_1500.html > > > > So while the SPL310 may have been marketed in the US as a B 63 model it > appears that Nissan considers the 310 Roadster started in 1962. > > > > While this information may not satisfy all, I feel comfortable that 1962 > should be considered the first year of the 310 series Roadster when looked > at on a global basis. > > -- > Dave Patten, Owner > > FutoFab, LLC > 199 Stark Hwy So > Dunbarton, NH 03046 > > Website - www.FutoFab.com > e-mail - dave at futofab.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com Fri May 4 14:37:06 2012 From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 16:37:06 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Slave Cylinder In-Reply-To: <1336157009.8460.YahooMailNeo@web130205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1336157009.8460.YahooMailNeo@web130205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It's been a few years, but I think I only paid $37.50 for new ones? Or maybe that was the clutch slave? Boy, getting old is so much ......? Paul Ohio On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Roy Haslett wrote: > Is the cylinder itself bad? Or is it just the internal piston and seal? > You > can get a rebuild kit from Beck Arnley (get the "Major" rebuild kit) for > less > than $20. Got to Amazon and search for it. Super easy to replace. > Replace > the slave hose while you are at it. Good Luck. > Roy > 67 low 1600 > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Friday, May > 4, 2012 9:17 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] Slave Cylinder > > I need a replace the > slave cylinder for my 1970 datsun spl311. Does anyone > have a cross reference > for this part? > mingocast > ________________________________________ > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/hrhaslett at yahoo.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri May 4 14:40:43 2012 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 20:40:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Slave Cylinder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <819126864.2615683.1336164043036.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Don't just assume the parts don't exist because our cars are 40+ years old. Even Nissan still carries roadster parts though you need to provide the part number since the newbie parts folks have no idea what a roadster is. Heck, a lot of 'em never heard of a 510. Anyway, I bought a new clutch slave from RockAuto.com 2 or 3 years ago. I just checked...yup....still available for $23. Look under "1600" instead of "SPL311." Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Domingo Castilleja" To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 9:17:10 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Slave Cylinder I need a replace the slave cylinder for my 1970 datsun spl311. Does anyone have a cross reference for this part? mingocast ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net From dbrichacek at me.com Fri May 4 15:33:31 2012 From: dbrichacek at me.com (David Brichacek) Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 21:33:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster Rally Car Restoration Message-ID: <586cabf6-8478-425e-9c5f-fda47a5c4825@me.com> I am restoring a 1969 Datsun Roadster and want to restore a racing version. I don't want to cut off windshield like the US racing cars do. I found some pics of Japanese and European Rally racing versions and was looking for information on mechanical and body specs. Thanks David Brichacek 4146 Country Green Lane Trenton, OH 45067 From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri May 4 16:49:02 2012 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 22:49:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] 310 Roadster - 1962 or 1963? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <76093973.2621282.1336171742342.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I dunno, but 1962-2012 just looks more aesthetically pleasing to me than 1963-2013. Pete "no running roadster, but I'll have a cool grille badge!" P.S. - TGIF!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Kort" To: "David Patten" Cc: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 12:12:25 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 310 Roadster - 1962 or 1963? *The Complete Datsun Guide *by Michael F. Hollander shows the 310 began in 1962, but does not differentiate between Japanese and USA sales. *Fair Lady, Japan's First Sports Car *by Phill Brook, lists a 1962 model of the 310. But it lumps the production quantities with the '63 model. *Datsun Roadsters*, Brooklands Road Test Books, compiled by R.M. Clark, also lists the 310 as beginning in 1962. So, if you want to wait until next year to make a 50th grille badge, go right ahead. Who knows, I may even buy one. But for now, I'll gladly display David & Ed's design on my '69 roadster! Paul Kort 1969 1600 (now KA24E powered) Ohio On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:01 PM, David Patten wrote: > There has been some disagreement on the first year of the 310 series > Roadster. > > > > The 310 Roadster was first introduced to the public in the Fall of 1961 at > the Tokyo Auto Show. The US public saw the car in April 1962 at the New > York Auto Show. (There is a short video, more of a newsreel, of the 1962 > New York Auto Show on the internet that shows the 310 Roadster, but I was > unable to find it for a second time to provide a link.) > > > > Based on information provided in the book Datsun Fairlady Roadster to > 280ZX, the Z Car Story by Brian Long, he states that the first SP310 > roadsters (RHD) were 1962 with a total of 187 cars but the first to be > exported were in 1963. So it is quite likely that the LHD SPL310, exported > to the US was marketed as a 63 model but the original SP310 Roadster was > considered a 1962 in the Japanese domestic market. Long admits that the > earlier edition of his book had errors in production dates and numbers, > which with the help of Nissan Shatai, he calls his later book to be the > definitive details . > > > > Another source of stating the 310 as a 1962 is the Heritage Collection part > of on Nissan s Global website. There you will find the SP310 shown as year > 1962. > > Link: http://www.nissan-global.com/EN/HERITAGE/datsun_fairlady_1500.html > > > > So while the SPL310 may have been marketed in the US as a 63 model it > appears that Nissan considers the 310 Roadster started in 1962. > > > > While this information may not satisfy all, I feel comfortable that 1962 > should be considered the first year of the 310 series Roadster when looked > at on a global basis. > > -- > Dave Patten, Owner > > FutoFab, LLC > 199 Stark Hwy So > Dunbarton, NH 03046 > > Website - www.FutoFab.com > e-mail - dave at futofab.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com Fri May 4 17:13:40 2012 From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 19:13:40 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Slave Cylinder In-Reply-To: <819126864.2615683.1336164043036.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <819126864.2615683.1336164043036.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Be careful looking under "1600". The 510 was know as a 1600 in some markets. My local Auto Zone has both listed as 1600, but thankfully they'll order both when I need something and keep the one I don't need. Paul Ohio On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Pete Peters wrote: > Don't just assume the parts don't exist because our cars are 40+ years > old. Even Nissan still carries roadster parts though you need to provide > the part number since the newbie parts folks have no idea what a roadster > is. Heck, a lot of 'em never heard of a 510. > > > Anyway, I bought a new clutch slave from RockAuto.com 2 or 3 years ago. I > just checked...yup....still available for $23. Look under "1600" instead of > "SPL311." > > > Pete > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Domingo Castilleja" > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 9:17:10 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] Slave Cylinder > > I need a replace the slave cylinder for my 1970 datsun spl311. Does anyone > have a cross reference for this part? > mingocast > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Fri May 4 20:43:09 2012 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 22:43:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Question on conversion Message-ID: <65ac.51a2381d.3cd5edbd@aol.com> The link the shows a 1962 Fairlady race car shows this as HP rating: Engine Max. power 59kW (80PS)/5,600rpm My Single Carb, which this doesn't show the carb setup for the 1962, but it is rated at 77 HP, when they added the dual carbs it became 85 HP. Don't think back then there was anything changing the HP rating between Japan and US, so wondering why it is showing 80 HP when converting 77 HP to KW it is 56.63 or 57 KW if you round up? Any thoughts or insights? Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) / _www.ZRoad.org_ (http://www.zroad.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1967 SPL311-09144 From Keith0alan at aol.com Sat May 5 07:04:20 2012 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 09:04:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Question on conversion Message-ID: <21fb1.4318fb28.3cd67f54@aol.com> It could be how they were required to measure engine power for the different countries. At that time the US allowed HP to be measured with no engine accessories such as alternator or water pump. Japan may have allowed "at the rings" power, Power calculated from engine cylinder pressure totally eliminating all engine friction, cam and distributor load, etc. . Currently everyone measures with all engine accessories, air cleaner, exhaust system, how the engine is actually equipped in the car. keith In a message dated 5/4/2012 8:59:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, BARTERDUDE at aol.com writes: The link the shows a 1962 Fairlady race car shows this as HP rating: Engine Max. power 59kW (80PS)/5,600rpm My Single Carb, which this doesn't show the carb setup for the 1962, but it is rated at 77 HP, when they added the dual carbs it became 85 HP. Don't think back then there was anything changing the HP rating between Japan and US, so wondering why it is showing 80 HP when converting 77 HP to KW it is 56.63 or 57 KW if you round up? Any thoughts or insights? Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) / _www.ZRoad.org_ (http://www.zroad.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1967 SPL311-09144 ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keith0alan at aol.com From tputland at charter.net Sat May 5 19:21:20 2012 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 21:21:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] FLAPS....was Slave Cylinder Message-ID: <16e0482c.1548f9.1371fbc9078.Webtop.45@charter.net> You have a FLAPS that can look up a car that old? When I got Dad's Roadster about six years ago I used to try in Madison and was always told "our computers don't go back that far". I now wonder if they just stop listening at "Datsun". I may try to ask for a vette part that old and see if I get the same response. Bloody muscle head....er.....I mean muscle car people. tim On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Paul Kort wrote: > Be careful looking under "1600". The 510 was know as a 1600 in some > markets. My local Auto Zone has both listed as 1600, but thankfully > they'll order both when I need something and keep the one I don't > need. > > Paul > Ohio > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Pete Peters > wrote: > >> Don't just assume the parts don't exist because our cars are 40+ >> years >> old. Even Nissan still carries roadster parts though you need to >> provide >> the part number since the newbie parts folks have no idea what a >> roadster >> is. Heck, a lot of 'em never heard of a 510. >> >> >> Anyway, I bought a new clutch slave from RockAuto.com 2 or 3 years >> ago. I >> just checked...yup....still available for $23. Look under "1600" >> instead of >> "SPL311." >> >> >> Pete >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Domingo Castilleja" >> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 9:17:10 AM >> Subject: [Roadsters] Slave Cylinder >> >> I need a replace the slave cylinder for my 1970 datsun spl311. Does >> anyone >> have a cross reference for this part? >> mingocast >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sat May 5 21:17:38 2012 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 03:17:38 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] FLAPS....was Slave Cylinder In-Reply-To: <16e0482c.1548f9.1371fbc9078.Webtop.45@charter.net> References: <16e0482c.1548f9.1371fbc9078.Webtop.45@charter.net> Message-ID: <730925886-1336274259-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-282358343-@b15.c20.bise6.blackberry> I've found almost none of the systems list "Datsun," so I generally just say Nissan, the year, and roll from there. Pete Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Tim Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sat, 5 May 2012 21:21:20 To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FLAPS....was Slave Cylinder You have a FLAPS that can look up a car that old? When I got Dad's Roadster about six years ago I used to try in Madison and was always told "our computers don't go back that far". I now wonder if they just stop listening at "Datsun". I may try to ask for a vette part that old and see if I get the same response. Bloody muscle head....er.....I mean muscle car people. tim On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Paul Kort wrote: > Be careful looking under "1600". The 510 was know as a 1600 in some > markets. My local Auto Zone has both listed as 1600, but thankfully > they'll order both when I need something and keep the one I don't > need. > > Paul > Ohio > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Pete Peters > wrote: > >> Don't just assume the parts don't exist because our cars are 40+ >> years >> old. Even Nissan still carries roadster parts though you need to >> provide >> the part number since the newbie parts folks have no idea what a >> roadster >> is. Heck, a lot of 'em never heard of a 510. >> >> >> Anyway, I bought a new clutch slave from RockAuto.com 2 or 3 years >> ago. I >> just checked...yup....still available for $23. Look under "1600" >> instead of >> "SPL311." >> >> >> Pete >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Domingo Castilleja" >> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 9:17:10 AM >> Subject: [Roadsters] Slave Cylinder >> >> I need a replace the slave cylinder for my 1970 datsun spl311. Does >> anyone >> have a cross reference for this part? >> mingocast >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net From jeep007jonathan at msn.com Sun May 6 22:41:05 2012 From: jeep007jonathan at msn.com (Jonathan Longo) Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 21:41:05 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Message-ID: Make al0t 0f m0ney using y0ur PC http://kacchemicals.com/uueldck.php?gjhsubid=83 Mon, 7 May 2012 5:41:05 _____________________ " The book was Maniacs in the Fourth Dimension, by Kilgore Trout." (c) philadelphia windham From jeep007jonathan at msn.com Sun May 6 22:41:22 2012 From: jeep007jonathan at msn.com (Jonathan Longo) Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 21:41:22 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Message-ID: Make Income like money making machine http://ips-com.net/oldck.php?jtiin=17 Mon, 7 May 2012 5:41:22 __________________ " They could have been anybody." (c) aidan vissuto From sandhoff at csus.edu Mon May 7 11:53:37 2012 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 10:53:37 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Guess what Rita Wilson drove as a teen? Message-ID: <4FA7A9B1.16566.1202D7@localhost> "As a teen, she drove a Datsun 2000 Roadster to her job as a ticket taker at L.A.s Universal Amphitheatre..." -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Mon May 7 13:52:37 2012 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 12:52:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Guess what Rita Wilson drove as a teen? In-Reply-To: <4FA7A9B1.16566.1202D7@localhost> Message-ID: <1336420357.64436.YahooMailClassic@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Something else to like about herb& (except for the "painted it red" thing -- how clicheb& ) ;^) Wait -- did she say " '70s FM songsb&" ? Was the stock radio AM/FM? Been so long since I've seen the interior of my '70 that I don't remember (which I blush to admitb&). Gary McCormick San Jose, CA '70 2000 SRL311-13291 --- On Mon, 5/7/12, John F Sandhoff wrote: From: John F Sandhoff Subject: [Roadsters] Guess what Rita Wilson drove as a teen? To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Monday, May 7, 2012, 10:53 AM "As a teen, she drove a Datsun 2000 Roadster to her job as a ticket taker at L.A.s Universal Amphitheatre..." -- John B B B B John F SandhoffB B B sandhoff at csus.eduB B B Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net From tom at datsun2000.com Mon May 7 19:50:34 2012 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen) Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 18:50:34 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Guess what Rita Wilson drove as a teen? Message-ID: I remember you could get an FM adaptor for your AM radio, which is all I remember for the roadsters in 1970. I don't remember that they worked particularly well for me. There are some Clarion AM/FM radios that will fit into the stock console on 68-70 model cars, but the are designed for horizontal mounting and would be difficult to read in a roadster console. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Las Vegas http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On 5/7/2012 12:52:37 PM, Gary McCormick (gkmcc at sbcglobal.net) wrote: > Something else to like about herb& (except for the "painted it red" thing - > - > how clicheb& ) ;^) > > Wait -- did she say " '70s FM songsb&" ? Was the stock radio AM/FM? Been > so > long since I've seen the interior of my '70 that I > don't remember (which I > blush to admitb&). > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > '70 > 2000 SRL311-13291 > > --- On Mon, 5/7/12, John F Sandhoff wrote: > > From: John F Sandhoff > Subject: [Roadsters] Guess what Rita Wilson drove as a teen? > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Monday, May 7, 2012, 10:53 AM > > "As a teen, she drove a Datsun 2000 Roadster to her job > as a ticket taker at L.A.s Universal Amphitheatre..." > > > > -- John > B B B B John F SandhoffB B B sandhoff at csus.eduB B B Sacramento, CA > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal. > net From aultgc at att.net Mon May 7 21:21:03 2012 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 22:21:03 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Late Model Horn Button Message-ID: <77CE8B1EE852492A8D49DECAC52F3810@gaxp1> Someone recently posted a note which indiacted how to remove the horn button in a late ("68-'70) year car. I thought I'd saved it, "just in case", but apparently did not. I think it twists and pulls off, but I am not sure. Will someone refresh my memory, please? Thanks. Gary From tom at datsun2000.com Mon May 7 21:22:32 2012 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen) Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 20:22:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 69 2000 For Sale Message-ID: Ken Cook of Yakima, WA. has listed is 69 2000 for sale on the NOWROC web site. Asking price is $5500.00 for what looks like it might be a nice car. If you, or someone you know are interested take a look here: http://www.nowroc.org/Classifieds.htm Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Las Vegas http://www.nowroc.org - Looking for a web manager in the Northwest. From roadster68 at shaw.ca Mon May 7 23:04:30 2012 From: roadster68 at shaw.ca (Larry Dziuba) Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 23:04:30 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] FLAPS....was Slave Cylinder References: <16e0482c.1548f9.1371fbc9078.Webtop.45@charter.net> <730925886-1336274259-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-282358343-@b15.c20.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <4DB9A69734C64618B96C1A159E71A689@useravjfzd6udp> I just installed a used set of rotors that still meet the thickness standard. those and good pads have not made much difference. I have always been disappointed with their stopping power. My 1971 510 had amazing disc brakes. I did not check the master cylinder. Does anyone know what the bleeder valves on the master are used for? Can they be used to bleed the master cylinder? Running out of ideas. Larry. ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadster68 at shaw.ca From graemes at internode.on.net Tue May 8 01:01:08 2012 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling) Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 16:31:08 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] Late Model Horn Button In-Reply-To: <77CE8B1EE852492A8D49DECAC52F3810@gaxp1> References: <77CE8B1EE852492A8D49DECAC52F3810@gaxp1> Message-ID: <4FA8C4B4.9080808@internode.on.net> Remove fuse Push horn button down. Turn Anti-clockwise. VIOLA! Regards, Graeme Suckling http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia. On 8/05/2012 12:51 PM, Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > Someone recently posted a note which indiacted how to remove the horn button > in a late ("68-'70) year car. I thought I'd saved it, "just in case", but > apparently did not. > > I think it twists and pulls off, but I am not sure. Will someone refresh my > memory, please? Thanks. > > Gary > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on.net From ronnie.day at gmail.com Tue May 8 07:53:00 2012 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 08:53:00 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Guess what Rita Wilson drove as a teen? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Even though in the owners manual in the 311s.org wiki section the radio appears to be AM only, I seem to remember that the radio in our '70 2000 (bought new) was AM/FM, but I could easily be wrong. About a year after we bought the 2000 we bought a '71 510 4-door. It had the "optional" AM/8-track with an 8-track shaped plug-in FM tuner. Kind of interesting. For the life of me, I can't remember what kind of speaker set up it used, but it was probably just the single speaker mounted center dash. Ron On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Tom Hendricksen wrote: > I remember you could get an FM adaptor for your AM radio, which is all I > remember for the roadsters in 1970. I don't remember that they worked > particularly well for me. There are some Clarion AM/FM radios that will > fit > into the stock console on 68-70 model cars, but the are designed for > horizontal mounting and would be difficult to read in a roadster console. > > Tom > 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde > Las Vegas > http://www.datsun2000.com > http://www.nowroc.org > > > > On 5/7/2012 12:52:37 PM, Gary McCormick (gkmcc at sbcglobal.net) wrote: > > Something else to like about herb& (except for the "painted it red" > thing - > > - > > how clicheb& ) ;^) > > > > Wait -- did she say " '70s FM songsb&" ? Was the stock radio AM/FM? Been > > so > > long since I've seen the interior of my '70 that I > > don't remember (which I > > blush to admitb&). > > > > Gary McCormick > > San Jose, CA > > '70 > > 2000 SRL311-13291 > > > > --- On Mon, 5/7/12, John F Sandhoff wrote: > > > > From: John F Sandhoff > > Subject: [Roadsters] Guess what Rita Wilson drove as a teen? > > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Date: Monday, May 7, 2012, 10:53 AM > > > > "As a teen, she drove a Datsun 2000 Roadster to her job > > as a ticket taker at L.A.s Universal Amphitheatre..." > > > > > > > > > -- John > > B B B B John F SandhoffB B B sandhoff at csus.eduB B B Sacramento, CA > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal. > > net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ronnie.day at gmail.com From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com Tue May 8 10:11:44 2012 From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 09:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] FLAPS....was Slave Cylinder Message-ID: <1336493504.59523.androidMobile@web181009.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I had the same problem, and it turned out that I did not properly adjust the rear brakes. S 675MIZU From alvingogi at gmail.com Tue May 8 10:59:59 2012 From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 09:59:59 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1967.5 SPL For Sale- San Jose, CA Message-ID: Details below: 1967.5 SPL For Sale From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net Tue May 8 16:12:34 2012 From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 16:12:34 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [Roadsters] FLAPS....was Slave Cylinder Message-ID: <3528210.1336515155629.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I know there have been prior posts on this topic, including discussion of bench-bleeding (not sure what that means though). I too have been sorely disappointed in the braking capability of my roadster. I have been able to improve this somewhat with a combination of speed bleeders, stainless steel brake lines, replacing the rear wheel cylinders, new master cylinder, and aggressive bleeding of the master cylinder. My latest effort was replacing the rotors and the pedal feels quite firm. I have to reinstall the rebuilt engine before I can test out this latest improvement, hoping to do that before the end of May. I have a friend who put Wilwood brakes on his 240Z and said it made a huge improvement in his car. That may be my next step if I am still not satisfied with the present set-up. Good luck, Dewey -----Original Message----- >From: Larry Dziuba >Sent: May 7, 2012 11:04 PM >To: Datsun Roadster List >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FLAPS....was Slave Cylinder > >I just installed a used set of rotors that still meet the thickness >standard. those and good pads have not made much difference. I have always >been disappointed with their stopping power. My 1971 510 had amazing disc >brakes. I did not check the master cylinder. Does anyone know what the >bleeder valves on the master are used for? Can they be used to bleed the >master cylinder? Running out of ideas. Larry. > ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadster68 at shaw.ca >________________________________________ > >datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/hahlbohmd at earthlink.net From sandhoff at csus.edu Tue May 8 18:17:31 2012 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 17:17:31 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Brakes (was: FLAPS....was Slave Cylinder) In-Reply-To: <3528210.1336515155629.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4FA9552B.31931.697D89F@localhost> > I too have been sorely disappointed in the braking capability of > my roadster... Personal opinion... Properly set up, the Roadster brakes are quite good. A host of problems with 40 year old hydraulics may occur, but the basic design and implementation are quite solid. The front calipers are identical to Jaguar and Studebaker of the generation. And the 'Stude weighs in at two tons, so a one ton Roadster shouldn't have a problem slowing down :-) One 'gotcha' is a too-thin rotor, resulting in the pad hitting the bridge and not the rotor. Firm pedal, no stopping power. Old rubber hoses will sap all the braking force as well, as they will expand a bit under pressure and steal the PSI. The later cars, with the dual cylinder, have a non-serviceable valve inside the piston assembly. If this valve doesn't fully seat, the fluid pumps internally in the cylinder and doesn't generate braking pressure. Especially if the brake system ever sat 'dry', the master is probably not up to snuff. They used to be expensive, nowadays they're in the "you want HOW MUCH for that?!??" range. If all the parts are good, the brakes are great. If major parts need replacement, I imagine it's a cost savings to do the Volvo (or another) swap. > Does anyone know what the bleeder valves on the master are used for? They're used to bleed the master :-) To bench bleed the master, gently clamp it in a vice, put hoses from the bleeder outlets to squirt back into each reservoir, add fluid and pump pump pump. This works the air out of all the nooks and crannies. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA p.s. Old-timer hint: remove the plastic cover from the front steel crossover tubes. The pipe rusts underneath it and one day you'll lose your front brakes. I was always skeptical about that actually happening - 'til one day when I lost my front brakes... From ljordan704 at netscape.net Tue May 8 18:50:48 2012 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 20:50:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] FLAPS....was Slave Cylinder In-Reply-To: <3528210.1336515155629.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <3528210.1336515155629.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <8CEFB94E8CFCBC6-25D4-48CF6@webmail-d011.sysops.aol.com> You can also go to stainless braided lines to help with the braking. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Dewey Hahlbohm To: Larry Dziuba ; Datsun Roadster List Sent: Tue, May 8, 2012 4:56 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FLAPS....was Slave Cylinder I know there have been prior posts on this topic, including discussion of bench-bleeding (not sure what that means though). I too have been sorely disappointed in the braking capability of my roadster. I have been able to improve this somewhat with a combination of speed bleeders, stainless steel brake lines, replacing the rear wheel cylinders, new master cylinder, and aggressive bleeding of the master cylinder. My latest effort was replacing the rotors and the pedal feels quite firm. I have to reinstall the rebuilt engine before I can test out this latest improvement, hoping to do that before the end of May. I have a friend who put Wilwood brakes on his 240Z and said it made a huge improvement in his car. That may be my next step if I am still not satisfied with the present set-up. Good luck, Dewey -----Original Message----- >From: Larry Dziuba >Sent: May 7, 2012 11:04 PM >To: Datsun Roadster List >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FLAPS....was Slave Cylinder > >I just installed a used set of rotors that still meet the thickness >standard. those and good pads have not made much difference. I have always >been disappointed with their stopping power. My 1971 510 had amazing disc >brakes. I did not check the master cylinder. Does anyone know what the >bleeder valves on the master are used for? Can they be used to bleed the >master cylinder? Running out of ideas. Larry. > ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadster68 at shaw.ca >________________________________________ > >datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/hahlbohmd at earthlink.ne t ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Tue May 8 18:53:59 2012 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 17:53:59 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 66 rolling chassis - local - no association Message-ID: cx3dn-3000338408 at sale.craigslist.org Peter Harrison - Eliza [TOAD SAN] 818 448 3181 From yenko_stinger65 at yahoo.com Tue May 8 19:09:32 2012 From: yenko_stinger65 at yahoo.com (shepard richard) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 18:09:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] FLAPS....was Slave Cylinder In-Reply-To: <3528210.1336515155629.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <3528210.1336515155629.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1336525772.22515.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Remember these are 40 - 50 Year old cars and systems so don't stop like today's cars. They were good in there day but just don't stop like todays cars if they still have the factory brakes. My problem is no car will stop like my Formula Alantic car did so I learn to live with them. rich ________________________________ From: Dewey Hahlbohm To: Larry Dziuba ; Datsun Roadster List Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FLAPS....was Slave Cylinder I know there have been prior posts on this topic, including discussion of bench-bleeding (not sure what that means though). I too have been sorely disappointed in the braking capability of my roadster. I have been able to improve this somewhat with a combination of speed bleeders, stainless steel brake lines, replacing the rear wheel cylinders, new master cylinder, and aggressive bleeding of the master cylinder. My latest effort was replacing the rotors and the pedal feels quite firm. I have to reinstall the rebuilt engine before I can test out this latest improvement, hoping to do that before the end of May. I have a friend who put Wilwood brakes on his 240Z and said it made a huge improvement in his car. That may be my next step if I am still not satisfied with the present set-up. Good luck, Dewey From aultgc at att.net Tue May 8 22:41:11 2012 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 23:41:11 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] FLAPS....was Slave Cylinder References: <3528210.1336515155629.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <7FF211BE9C7F402DADA3A4C0318F07CE@gaxp1> I always found the braking on my '66 roadster to be more than adequate -- as long as I "stood" on the pedal. The pedal effort has always been very high, owing to the absence of a vacuum booster with the disc brakes. Yhe braking effort on my '67-1/2 2000, with its dual circuit, is not as good, but I have not had the ambition to fool with it. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dewey Hahlbohm" To: "Larry Dziuba" ; "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FLAPS....was Slave Cylinder >I know there have been prior posts on this topic, including discussion of >bench-bleeding (not sure what that means though). > > I too have been sorely disappointed in the braking capability of my > roadster. I have been able to improve this somewhat with a combination of > speed bleeders, stainless steel brake lines, replacing the rear wheel > cylinders, new master cylinder, and aggressive bleeding of the master > cylinder. My latest effort was replacing the rotors and the pedal feels > quite firm. I have to reinstall the rebuilt engine before I can test out > this latest improvement, hoping to do that before the end of May. > > I have a friend who put Wilwood brakes on his 240Z and said it made a huge > improvement in his car. That may be my next step if I am still not > satisfied with the present set-up. Good luck, Dewey > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Larry Dziuba >>Sent: May 7, 2012 11:04 PM >>To: Datsun Roadster List >>Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FLAPS....was Slave Cylinder >> >>I just installed a used set of rotors that still meet the thickness >>standard. those and good pads have not made much difference. I have >>always >>been disappointed with their stopping power. My 1971 510 had amazing disc >>brakes. I did not check the master cylinder. Does anyone know what the >>bleeder valves on the master are used for? Can they be used to bleed the >>master cylinder? Running out of ideas. Larry. >> ________________________________________ >>> >>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadster68 at shaw.ca >>________________________________________ >> >>datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/hahlbohmd at earthlink.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Tue May 8 23:11:05 2012 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 22:11:05 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Transporting Cars Message-ID: My neighbour, Ed Brown, (Van Nuys, CA) transports typically highend cars all around the country. He was selected to transport AX201 (the original Silver Ghost) for the Rolls Royce Centenniary. I mention this only because times are tight and he often has empty (reasonable) capacity in his truck (typical load is from 6-8 cars) So, if you are looking for closed transportation, and you have some wait time built in, he might be a useful contact. Given the cost of fuel these days, and flying out, sorting the car etc., he might be a decent option. Peter Harrison - Eliza [TOAD SAN] 818 448 3181 From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Tue May 8 23:23:58 2012 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 22:23:58 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Brakes (was: FLAPS....was Slave Cylinder) In-Reply-To: <4FA9552B.31931.697D89F@localhost> References: <3528210.1336515155629.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net>, <4FA9552B.31931.697D89F@localhost> Message-ID: Well!!!!!!! Out here in California we have some cool twisty roads - Decker Canyon being one - serious downhill, twisty as all heck - and YEP - at the end of a serious downhill run, I was out of brakes - but this is (as someone mentikoned) a 40+ year old car. I love driving fast - but heavens - this is an OLD car - try doing this on my old 49 Bentley MKViI - which I did and scared me even more - especially with a 2 ton + car. They were designed as they were designed - at a time when they mostly out-did their competitors - MGA,TR's MGB - any modern car will do better - but who wants to have fun in a modern car like we do with our roadsters Peter Harrison - Eliza [TOAD SAN] 818 448 3181 > From: sandhoff at csus.edu > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 17:17:31 -0700 > Subject: [Roadsters] Brakes (was: FLAPS....was Slave Cylinder) > > > I too have been sorely disappointed in the braking capability of > > my roadster... > > Personal opinion... > Properly set up, the Roadster brakes are quite good. A host of > problems with 40 year old hydraulics may occur, but the basic design > and implementation are quite solid. > > The front calipers are identical to Jaguar and Studebaker of the > generation. And the 'Stude weighs in at two tons, so a one ton > Roadster shouldn't have a problem slowing down :-) > > One 'gotcha' is a too-thin rotor, resulting in the pad hitting the > bridge and not the rotor. Firm pedal, no stopping power. > > Old rubber hoses will sap all the braking force as well, as they will > expand a bit under pressure and steal the PSI. > > The later cars, with the dual cylinder, have a non-serviceable valve > inside the piston assembly. If this valve doesn't fully seat, the fluid > pumps internally in the cylinder and doesn't generate braking pressure. > Especially if the brake system ever sat 'dry', the master is probably > not up to snuff. They used to be expensive, nowadays they're in the > "you want HOW MUCH for that?!??" range. > > If all the parts are good, the brakes are great. If major parts need > replacement, I imagine it's a cost savings to do the Volvo (or > another) swap. > > > Does anyone know what the bleeder valves on the master are used for? > > They're used to bleed the master :-) > > To bench bleed the master, gently clamp it in a vice, put hoses from > the bleeder outlets to squirt back into each reservoir, add fluid and > pump pump pump. This works the air out of all the nooks and crannies. > > -- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA > > p.s. Old-timer hint: remove the plastic cover from the front > steel crossover tubes. The pipe rusts underneath it and one day > you'll lose your front brakes. I was always skeptical about that > actually happening - 'til one day when I lost my front brakes... > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/granvillecomputing at hot mail.com From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed May 9 13:06:08 2012 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 19:06:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Brakes (was: FLAPS....was Slave Cylinder) In-Reply-To: <4FA9552B.31931.697D89F@localhost> Message-ID: <1569372600.137884.1336590368645.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I had planned to do the original Volvo conversion several years ago. Then someone did a cost analysis, and it was almost a wash compared to replacing/repairing the OEM parts. Additionally, not a single user who converted said the braking had improved significantly over stock (Note: I'm sure there's a number of folks who converted who have never responded). I then lucked into a deal on slightly used OEM parts from someone who had done the 300ZX brake conversion. I thought the stock brakes were great the few times I drove before killing the car. Granted, that was normal street/highway use, no auto-crossing, etc. That said, opinions/reality on cost and/or performance may no longer apply with the recent Volvo Brake conversion using the vented rotor. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "John F Sandhoff" To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 5:17:31 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Brakes (was: FLAPS....was Slave Cylinder) [snip] If all the parts are good, the brakes are great. If major parts need replacement, I imagine it's a cost savings to do the Volvo (or another) swap. From jsk977 at optonline.net Wed May 9 15:34:44 2012 From: jsk977 at optonline.net (Jerry Krakauer) Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 17:34:44 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Brakes (was: FLAPS....was Slave Cylinder) In-Reply-To: <1569372600.137884.1336590368645.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <4FA9552B.31931.697D89F@localhost> <1569372600.137884.1336590368645.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <000301cd2e2b$8d6d62c0$a8482840$@net> Although I haven't driven my roadster since the mid 70's, I always thought the brakes were very good in competition. The SCCA GCR's were much stricter back then and there wasn't much you could change, other that the pads and ducting for air. I used Ferodo DS11 racing pads and the Nissan competition "green stuff" shoes in the rear.(although when cold you had a better chance of stopping using your leg out the door!) Back then it was common for light weight imports to use discs without power assist, and yes pedal pressure was higher than we are used to today, but not that excessive. As a matter of fact, the lack of sensitivity made it easier to heal and toe. I don't recall ever having appreciable fade in a race although I did lose the brakes once by boiling the fluid. BTW, the Dunlop/Sumitomo calipers are the same model used on the series 1 XKE, with a 1/8" smaller bore, the pads are interchangeable. Jerry Krakauer SRL311 00099 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 3:06 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brakes (was: FLAPS....was Slave Cylinder) I had planned to do the original Volvo conversion several years ago. Then someone did a cost analysis, and it was almost a wash compared to replacing/repairing the OEM parts. Additionally, not a single user who converted said the braking had improved significantly over stock (Note: I'm sure there's a number of folks who converted who have never responded). I then lucked into a deal on slightly used OEM parts from someone who had done the 300ZX brake conversion. I thought the stock brakes were great the few times I drove before killing the car. Granted, that was normal street/highway use, no auto-crossing, etc. That said, opinions/reality on cost and/or performance may no longer apply with the recent Volvo Brake conversion using the vented rotor. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "John F Sandhoff" To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 5:17:31 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Brakes (was: FLAPS....was Slave Cylinder) [snip] If all the parts are good, the brakes are great. If major parts need replacement, I imagine it's a cost savings to do the Volvo (or another) swap. ________________________________________ From shifty at shiftco.com Wed May 9 20:28:38 2012 From: shifty at shiftco.com (Leigh Brooks) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 19:28:38 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] some one slap me In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8A98A49A-856F-4973-B1D2-29B0D50471B7@shiftco.com> Aside from the head, there is really no difference in an early vs. late U20. The later head will have air injection holes. Fill those with some plugs and find a way to "hide" the plugs. If you get a replacement block from Nissan (I've seen several over the years) it will not have a serial number. Leigh On Mar 29, 2012, at 10:15 AM, twokeelya at gmail.com wrote: > I have a 67.5 2000 with a 1600 transplant, I was toying with the Idea > of putting a U20 back in it, but I'd want one that is an early model > not the post 67. Am I just dreaming that one exists? Some one slap me > if it's just a dream > Richard > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/shifty at shiftco.com From gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com Wed May 9 22:20:14 2012 From: gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com (Gordon Maness) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 23:20:14 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] some one slap me In-Reply-To: <8A98A49A-856F-4973-B1D2-29B0D50471B7@shiftco.com> References: , <8A98A49A-856F-4973-B1D2-29B0D50471B7@shiftco.com> Message-ID: I've a Canadian '69 2000.It does not have the holes for the air injectors BUT it does have a flat spot where the hole could have been machined. I've seen the 67.5 side by side by the Canadian and they are different, but you wouldhave to know the difference to see it. g with a fleet (does not include a 67.5 2000 (darn)) > From: shifty at shiftco.com > Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 19:28:38 -0700 > To: twokeelya at gmail.com > CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] some one slap me > > Aside from the head, there is really no difference in an early vs. late U20. > > The later head will have air injection holes. Fill those with some plugs and > find a way to "hide" the plugs. > > If you get a replacement block from Nissan (I've seen several over the years) > it will not have a serial number. > > Leigh > > > On Mar 29, 2012, at 10:15 AM, twokeelya at gmail.com wrote: > > > I have a 67.5 2000 with a 1600 transplant, I was toying with the Idea > > of putting a U20 back in it, but I'd want one that is an early model > > not the post 67. Am I just dreaming that one exists? Some one slap me > > if it's just a dream > > Richard > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/shifty at shiftco.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gordon.e.maness at hotmai l.com From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Thu May 10 06:56:55 2012 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (Paul Courson) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 08:56:55 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Re: some one slap me In-Reply-To: References: <8A98A49A-856F-4973-B1D2-29B0D50471B7@shiftco.com> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Paul Courson" Date: May 10, 2012 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] some one slap me To: "Gordon Maness" You never know what may turn up among non-U.S. examples. We rescued from a Pennsylvania backyard a factory '68 Solex SRL. Was LHD, high windshield, correct VIN plate, and sold new to an Air Force guy stationed at Kadena. It's still around, perhaps coming up rapidly in your rear view mirror .... From vulforge at aol.com Thu May 10 12:08:25 2012 From: vulforge at aol.com (vulforge at aol.com) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 14:08:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Brakes Message-ID: <8CEFCEF07184F13-11D0-20C5F@Webmail-d110.sysops.aol.com> The brakes on these cars are more than adequate IF everything is up to snuff. Make sure the rubber hoses and pistons are good and flush and bleed the system with the front of the car elevated at least 6 inches. There is a part of the system that will hold a little air if you bleed with the car level. Once you get ALL the air out the brakes work great! Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1046 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com From vulforge at aol.com Thu May 10 13:57:16 2012 From: vulforge at aol.com (vulforge at aol.com) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 15:57:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] speedo drive gear Message-ID: <8CEFCFE3BC57522-11D0-21F76@Webmail-d110.sysops.aol.com> The plastic speedometer drive gear has worn out on my '67 4-speed. Anyone know who carries those? Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1046 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu May 10 16:20:26 2012 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 22:20:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] speedo drive gear In-Reply-To: <8CEFCFE3BC57522-11D0-21F76@Webmail-d110.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1964825322.199425.1336688426823.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Dunno who has 'em, but here are the part numbers from the 311s.org TechWiki: 4 speed transmission F4C63L gear part numbers b" 32703-22000 16 tooth b" 32703-22001 17 tooth b" 32703-21100 18 tooth b" 32703-78600 19 tooth b" 32707-14600 sleeve for 16-19 tooth b" 32707-14810 sleeve for 20-23 tooth b" 32703-14816 20 tooth b" 32703-25031 21 tooth b" 32703-16715 22 tooth b" 32703-19910 23 tooth Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: vulforge at aol.com To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:57:16 PM Subject: [Roadsters] speedo drive gear The plastic speedometer drive gear has worn out on my '67 4-speed. Anyone know who carries those? Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1046 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net From tpb73 at yahoo.com Thu May 10 19:33:57 2012 From: tpb73 at yahoo.com (Pete Koernig) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 18:33:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 SPL311 Engine Problem. Message-ID: <1336700037.28375.YahooMailNeo@web114517.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Rebuilt engine, threw mass quanities of new parts at it in addition to redoing carbs, new points, plugs, wires, cap, condenser, etc etc. Here's the heart breaker: #2 and #3 cylinders are not producing. #1 and #4 are fine, pull wire on 2 or 3 and rpm drops about 20-30 rpm. Pull wire on 1 or 4 engine falters unless reconnect to spark plug. Good snap acceleration. Uni-Syn pretty well matched (considering engine miss). Much black smoke --- engine running rich to keep running about 1000 rpm. All four cylinders test 155 to 160 pounds pressure at cranking speed. Cannot detect an intake manifold leak. Enough spark to melt your ear wax, to all four cylinders. Now what? Pete Koernig From alvingogi at gmail.com Thu May 10 21:16:00 2012 From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 20:16:00 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Rolex Motorsports Reunion and Brisbane Car Show In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.zcarblog.com/2012/05/10/events/summer-fun-rolex-reunion-and-brisbane-car-show.html From aultgc at att.net Thu May 10 23:34:54 2012 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 00:34:54 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 SPL311 Engine Problem. References: <1336700037.28375.YahooMailNeo@web114517.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4BA2F56E7F2C4F74AE61881637BF3A88@gaxp1> Pete, Your message didn't say anything about how the valves were set, nor what measurements were taken to ensure that the lift and duration are uniform on all four cylinders. #2 is essentially fed from the front carb, and #3 from the rear. If #1 and #4 are running OK, the answer would appear to be with something other than the distributor or carbs. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Koernig" To: Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 8:33 PM Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 SPL311 Engine Problem. > Rebuilt engine, threw mass quanities of new parts at it in addition to > redoing > carbs, new points, plugs, wires, cap, condenser, etc etc. > > Here's the heart > breaker: > #2 and #3 cylinders are not producing. #1 and #4 are fine, pull wire > on 2 or 3 and rpm drops about 20-30 rpm. Pull wire on 1 or 4 engine > falters > unless reconnect to spark plug. Good snap acceleration. Uni-Syn pretty > well > matched (considering engine miss). > Much black smoke --- engine running rich to > keep running about 1000 rpm. All four cylinders test 155 to 160 pounds > pressure at cranking speed. Cannot detect an intake manifold leak. > Enough > spark to melt your ear wax, to all four cylinders. > > Now what? > > Pete Koernig > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From RWM at RWMann.com Fri May 11 05:18:14 2012 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 07:18:14 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] --> Re: 1970 SPL311 Engine Problem. In-Reply-To: <4BA2F56E7F2C4F74AE61881637BF3A88@gaxp1> References: <1336700037.28375.YahooMailNeo@web114517.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4BA2F56E7F2C4F74AE61881637BF3A88@gaxp1> Message-ID: <4FACF576.2020902@RWMann.com> #2 and #3 spark wires reversed on distributor cap? On 5/11/2012 1:34 AM, Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > Pete, > > Your message didn't say anything about how the valves were set, nor > what measurements were taken to ensure that the lift and duration are > uniform on all four cylinders. > > #2 is essentially fed from the front carb, and #3 from the rear. If > #1 and #4 are running OK, the answer would appear to be with something > other than the distributor or carbs. > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Koernig" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 8:33 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 SPL311 Engine Problem. > > >> Rebuilt engine, threw mass quanities of new parts at it in addition >> to redoing >> carbs, new points, plugs, wires, cap, condenser, etc etc. >> >> Here's the heart >> breaker: >> #2 and #3 cylinders are not producing. #1 and #4 are fine, pull wire >> on 2 or 3 and rpm drops about 20-30 rpm. Pull wire on 1 or 4 engine >> falters >> unless reconnect to spark plug. Good snap acceleration. Uni-Syn >> pretty well >> matched (considering engine miss). >> Much black smoke --- engine running rich to >> keep running about 1000 rpm. All four cylinders test 155 to 160 pounds >> pressure at cranking speed. Cannot detect an intake manifold leak. >> Enough >> spark to melt your ear wax, to all four cylinders. >> >> Now what? >> >> Pete Koernig From sandhoff at csus.edu Fri May 11 12:29:57 2012 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 11:29:57 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] --> Re: 1970 SPL311 Engine Problem. In-Reply-To: <4FACF576.2020902@RWMann.com> References: <4BA2F56E7F2C4F74AE61881637BF3A88@gaxp1> Message-ID: <4FACF835.5810.14CCB5CB@localhost> Query: > #2 and #3 cylinders are not producing. #1 and #4 are fine Response: > #2 and #3 spark wires reversed on distributor cap? I concur with Mr. Mann! The firing order at the cap is COUNTER clockwise. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From ronnie.day at gmail.com Fri May 11 14:06:20 2012 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 15:06:20 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Shelby Dies at 89 Message-ID: Carroll Shelby died today at Baylor Hospital in Dallas. I guess you really can't say enough about his contributions to motorsports, so all I will say is rest in peace, you'l never be forgotten. Ron From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Fri May 11 16:06:34 2012 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 15:06:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Shelby Dies at 89 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1336773994.49926.YahooMailClassic@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I saw a 427 Cobra on my way into work this morning -- a real one, not a kit. I know because it had CA Historical Vehicle license plateb& Sounded amazing as it pulled away from the light. RIP Shelb& Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Fri, 5/11/12, Ronnie Day wrote: From: Ronnie Day Subject: [Roadsters] Shelby Dies at 89 To: "510 List" , "Roadster List" , "Shop Talk List" Date: Friday, May 11, 2012, 1:06 PM Carroll Shelby died today at Baylor Hospital in Dallas. I guess you really can't say enough about his contributions to motorsports, so all I will say is rest in peace, you'l never be forgotten. Ron ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net From sumton at sbcglobal.net Fri May 11 19:59:45 2012 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (dave n) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 20:59:45 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Shelby Dies at 89 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am here in Dallas, and I saw him at a show here a few years ago where he autographed my cobra book and I took a picture of him with my son. I knew he was getting on in years, but it still shook me. he will be missed. some chicken farmer . . . -----Original Message----- From: Ronnie Day Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 3:06 PM To: 510 List ; Roadster List ; Shop Talk List Subject: [Roadsters] Shelby Dies at 89 Carroll Shelby died today at Baylor Hospital in Dallas. I guess you really can't say enough about his contributions to motorsports, so all I will say is rest in peace, you'l never be forgotten. Ron From roadster2 at schroeder-family.us Fri May 11 21:03:38 2012 From: roadster2 at schroeder-family.us (Fred Schroeder) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 21:03:38 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas Tank References: Message-ID: <000b01cd2feb$d4995110$6700a8c0@fubar> http://gastankrenu.com/ This is the best work I've ever seen. It is very pricey but worth every penny IMO. Best regards, Fred Schroeder roadster2 at schroeder-family.us Home page: http://schroeder-family.us NRA Life Member Behold the superfluous. They are always sick. They vomit their gall and call it a newspaper. Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche 1844-1900 ----- Original Message ----- From: Domingo Castilleja To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 9:21 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Gas Tank I need to have the gas tank cleaned. Any suggestions. mingocast ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadster2 at schroeder-fa mily.us From ljordan704 at netscape.net Fri May 11 22:57:45 2012 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda Jordan) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 21:57:45 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas Tank In-Reply-To: <000b01cd2feb$d4995110$6700a8c0@fubar> References: <000b01cd2feb$d4995110$6700a8c0@fubar> Message-ID: <157DA8EB-EC8D-43C6-B097-943FBFDCD8FB@netscape.net> Agreed. I used them and at any time I can take the tank back and get redone with the lifetime warranty. Linda Sent from my iPod On May 11, 2012, at 8:03 PM, "Fred Schroeder" wrote: > http://gastankrenu.com/ This is the best work I've ever seen. It is very > pricey but worth every penny IMO. > > Best regards, > > Fred Schroeder > roadster2 at schroeder-family.us > Home page: http://schroeder-family.us > NRA Life Member > > Behold the superfluous. They are always sick. They > vomit their gall and call it a newspaper. > Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche 1844-1900 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Domingo Castilleja > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 9:21 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] Gas Tank > > > I need to have the gas tank cleaned. Any suggestions. > mingocast > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadster2 at schroeder-fa > mily.us > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From keithddowning at yahoo.com Sat May 12 09:25:41 2012 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 08:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 Datsun L210 1000 on BAT Message-ID: <1336836341.30748.YahooMailRC@web83308.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> For those of you interested... http://bringatrailer.com/2012/05/11/bat-exclusive-rare-1960-datsun-l210-1000/ From brogsme at msn.com Sun May 13 09:10:59 2012 From: brogsme at msn.com (BRIAN BROGIE) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 15:10:59 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Shelby Dies at 89 In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: I have a 2008 GT500 and asked Shelby what he wanted car owners to do woth their cars..."Drive 'em" We lost a great car guy RIP Brian > From: sumton at sbcglobal.net > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 20:59:45 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Shelby Dies at 89 > > I am here in Dallas, and I saw him at a show here a few years ago where he > autographed my cobra book and I took a picture of him with my son. > > I knew he was getting on in years, but it still shook me. he will be > missed. some chicken farmer . . . > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ronnie Day > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 3:06 PM > To: 510 List ; Roadster List ; Shop Talk List > Subject: [Roadsters] Shelby Dies at 89 > > Carroll Shelby died today at Baylor Hospital in Dallas. I guess you really > can't say enough about his contributions to motorsports, so all I will say > is rest in peace, you'l never be forgotten. > > Ron > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/brogsme at msn.com From roadster68 at shaw.ca Sun May 13 20:29:39 2012 From: roadster68 at shaw.ca (Larry Dziuba) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 20:29:39 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Brakes References: <8CEFCEF07184F13-11D0-20C5F@Webmail-d110.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <49F91829F2B543E582ED6DA49CA58F25@useravjfzd6udp> So what is the concensus on order of the brake bleed process after bleeding the master cylinder? Larry. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:08 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Brakes > The brakes on these cars are more than adequate IF everything is up to > snuff. > Make sure the rubber hoses and pistons are good and > flush and bleed the system with the front of the car elevated at least 6 > inches. There is a part of the system that will hold a little air if you > bleed with the car level. Once you get ALL the air out the brakes work > great! > > > Russell Criswell > Vulcan's Forge > 3936 Broadway > Kansas City, MO > 64111 > > 816-931-6303 > 816-931-9378 fax > 877-531-1046 toll-free > www.vulcans-forge.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadster68 at shaw.ca From graemes at internode.on.net Sun May 13 21:20:18 2012 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 12:50:18 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] Brakes In-Reply-To: <49F91829F2B543E582ED6DA49CA58F25@useravjfzd6udp> References: <8CEFCEF07184F13-11D0-20C5F@Webmail-d110.sysops.aol.com> <49F91829F2B543E582ED6DA49CA58F25@useravjfzd6udp> Message-ID: <4FB079F2.30206@internode.on.net> The recommended order is the farthest wheel from the Master to the closest wheel. For a LHD, that would be RR, RL, FR then FL. Regards, Graeme Suckling http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia. On 14/05/2012 11:59 AM, Larry Dziuba wrote: > So what is the concensus on order of the brake bleed process after > bleeding the master cylinder? Larry. > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:08 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Brakes > > >> The brakes on these cars are more than adequate IF everything is up >> to snuff. >> Make sure the rubber hoses and pistons are good and >> flush and bleed the system with the front of the car elevated at least 6 >> inches. There is a part of the system that will hold a little air if >> you >> bleed with the car level. Once you get ALL the air out the brakes >> work great! >> >> >> Russell Criswell >> Vulcan's Forge >> 3936 Broadway >> Kansas City, MO >> 64111 >> >> 816-931-6303 >> 816-931-9378 fax >> 877-531-1046 toll-free >> www.vulcans-forge.com >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadster68 at shaw.ca > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on.net From sumton at sbcglobal.net Sun May 13 21:37:26 2012 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (dave n) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 22:37:26 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Brakes In-Reply-To: <49F91829F2B543E582ED6DA49CA58F25@useravjfzd6udp> References: <8CEFCEF07184F13-11D0-20C5F@Webmail-d110.sysops.aol.com> <49F91829F2B543E582ED6DA49CA58F25@useravjfzd6udp> Message-ID: I have always heard start with the farthest brake and work inward. this is how I do it, but I am curious as to why this is. I will say that speed bleeders make life so much better. and on some cars, an impact wrench to pull the wheels as well! -----Original Message----- From: Larry Dziuba Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 9:29 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net ; vulforge at aol.com Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brakes So what is the concensus on order of the brake bleed process after bleeding the master cylinder? Larry. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:08 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Brakes From mark at bradakis.com Sun May 13 23:01:18 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 23:01:18 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Team.Net notes Message-ID: <20120514050118.D4C4C2E0A7@bradakis.com> n case you are wondering: http://www.team.net/status.html mjb. From roadsterregistry at yahoo.com Sun May 13 23:33:54 2012 From: roadsterregistry at yahoo.com (Roman Rist) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 22:33:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Brake line?? 66 Message-ID: <1336973634.21835.YahooMailClassic@web113316.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I have a frozen brake line (from sitting for years) I completely stripped the flange nut even with a proper wrench. In hindsight I should have used a propane torch, oh well. too late now This is the one coming right off the brake master cylinder. Anyone have one to part with? cheers, Roman From rtdengr at charter.net Mon May 14 11:04:26 2012 From: rtdengr at charter.net (Bob Dicke) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 12:04:26 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Brakes In-Reply-To: References: <8CEFCEF07184F13-11D0-20C5F@Webmail-d110.sysops.aol.com> <49F91829F2B543E582ED6DA49CA58F25@useravjfzd6udp> Message-ID: <007601cd31f3$9e69a4f0$db3ceed0$@charter.net> I also used the furthest first rule when prepping the race car each week. If you don't have a speed bleeder it helps to have five kids, all of whom knew how to pump and hold the brake pedal by the time they were eight years old. Bob -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dave n Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 10:37 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brakes I have always heard start with the farthest brake and work inward. this is how I do it, but I am curious as to why this is. I will say that speed bleeders make life so much better. and on some cars, an impact wrench to pull the wheels as well! -----Original Message----- From: Larry Dziuba Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 9:29 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net ; vulforge at aol.com Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brakes So what is the concensus on order of the brake bleed process after bleeding the master cylinder? Larry. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:08 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Brakes ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rtdengr at charter.net From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com Mon May 14 13:01:55 2012 From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 15:01:55 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Brakes In-Reply-To: <007601cd31f3$9e69a4f0$db3ceed0$@charter.net> References: <8CEFCEF07184F13-11D0-20C5F@Webmail-d110.sysops.aol.com> <49F91829F2B543E582ED6DA49CA58F25@useravjfzd6udp> <007601cd31f3$9e69a4f0$db3ceed0$@charter.net> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > On Behalf Of dave n > > I have always heard start with the farthest brake and work inward. this is > how I do it, but I am curious as to why this is. > ************************************************* With each pump of the pedal, you push new brake fluid down the line. But with each release of the pedal, the fluid decompresses and at little bit flows back up the line. If you started with the short line, a bit of the old wet brake fluid would come back into the line above the split, contaminating the fluid you are now going to compress into the next line. By flushing the longest line first, you get most of the old stuff out. And then each lift and back flow is good clean new fluid. Or maybe it's because I learned to do it from dad at age 9 on a 1960 DKW 750 Junior, and we always did it that way right up through his 1990 Maxima, his last car. And as I remember it, when I asked dad why he did it that way, he said because his dad taught him to do it that way. Was good enough for me! All this got me wondering about the whole process so I pulled two old automotive service text books I have. Both are Stockel manuals published back in 1969. They agree to start with the longest line, but do not explain why. At the race barn, I always enjoyed bleeding the brakes. Might be because my tool of choice was a bag of Wise potato chips to munch on while I pumped the brakes! Paul Ohio From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Mon May 14 13:45:07 2012 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 19:45:07 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Brakes, bleeding, order Message-ID: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F6602037B98@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> Andy Cost always recommended backing the car rear end up on ramps helped bring the air bubbles to the top. I do that now every time, as I need to lift the car to get enough access anyway, especially in the rear. From greg at bciitv.com Mon May 14 18:32:45 2012 From: greg at bciitv.com (Greg Glass) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 17:32:45 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun in the Optima Batteries Tech Tips Message-ID: <9A9A31435677CB4CB9D69FFA85B0E5D162EC5CC22F@bciexchange.bciitv.local> http://www.optimabatteries.com/product_support/techtips.php Check out videos #3, 4, 5, 6 and 8. That's my 66 1600 in the background. GG Greg Glass President BCII 818-333-3711 direct 818-381-3151 mobile www.bciitv.com NOTE our NEW Address as of August 1, 2011: Brentwood Communications International, Inc. (BCII) 16135 Roscoe Blvd North Hills, CA 91343 From greg at bciitv.com Mon May 14 18:36:10 2012 From: greg at bciitv.com (Greg Glass) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 17:36:10 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun in the Optima Batteries Tech Tips Message-ID: <9A9A31435677CB4CB9D69FFA85B0E5D162EC5CC230@bciexchange.bciitv.local> A bit easier to see on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihhkF2vI2Q0 From: Greg Glass Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 5:33 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Datsun in the Optima Batteries Tech Tips http://www.optimabatteries.com/product_support/techtips.php Check out videos #3, 4, 5, 6 and 8. That's my 66 1600 in the background. GG Greg Glass President BCII 818-333-3711 direct 818-381-3151 mobile www.bciitv.com NOTE our NEW Address as of August 1, 2011: Brentwood Communications International, Inc. (BCII) 16135 Roscoe Blvd North Hills, CA 91343 From twokeelya at gmail.com Mon May 14 22:48:02 2012 From: twokeelya at gmail.com (twokeelya at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 21:48:02 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] carpet and steering wheel Message-ID: Hey Roadster Peeps, I'm doing carpet and need a reliable source for my 67.5, also, wanted to replace the steering wheel with a Sebring-Style Steering Wheel, Any suggestions as to where might benefit roadster vendors? Richard From aultgc at att.net Tue May 15 08:34:57 2012 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 07:34:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] carpet and steering wheel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1337092497.97334.YahooMailRC@web180201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Richard, There are carpet kits available from several of the suppliers listed on 311s.org. For my part, though I recommend taking the car to a good local trim shop and have it custom fabricated and installed. I went that route when I had my '66 done some years ago, and I believe the results are superior to the kits. For one thing, I had the trim shop make the floor carpet in one piece from front to rear, which eliminates the "bunching" to which the front piece of two-piece kits is prone. Gary ________________________________ From: "twokeelya at gmail.com" To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, May 15, 2012 2:15:28 AM Subject: [Roadsters] carpet and steering wheel Hey Roadster Peeps, I'm doing carpet and need a reliable source for my 67.5, also, wanted to replace the steering wheel with a Sebring-Style Steering Wheel, Any suggestions as to where might benefit roadster vendors? Richard ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From Walter.Peterson at cox.net Thu May 17 09:00:24 2012 From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter.Peterson) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 08:00:24 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for Early 44 Solex Throttle Linkage parts. Message-ID: <002301cd343d$ca64de70$5f2e9b50$@cox.net> There are two sets of Throttle Linkages pulling open the carburetor's (one per carb). One of these broke off a socket end so I lost one carburetor while at full song in 3 gear going up the last 2 curves on HWY154 before my exit. 7000RPM ~ 100mph = Big Smile. I coasted off at West Camino Cielo and limped home the last mile onto our private driveway and walked the last 600 yards, also a Big Smile. (Like surviving an emergency parachute drop I suppose) As I recall these parts are made of un-obtainium, but if you know where I can get just 1/2 of 1 set (Just 1 rod end) I would be very grateful. These are made with 2 sets of threaded rod-ends and a union w/two jamb nuts. I have emailed Wolf racing already and awaiting a response, but I'm only hopeful there. The remainder broken piece can be seen here: https://skydrive.live.com/embed?cid=2A590C41F68A7CF7&resid=2A590C41F68A7CF7% 21280&authkey=ACjhtDTW0XlzpdM The socket end is still on the carb. Thank you, Walt Peterson Santa Barbara 20R Street Racer (Parked) "Datsa 67" From Walter.Peterson at cox.net Thu May 17 09:16:14 2012 From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter.Peterson) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 08:16:14 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] I love my new Falken Azenis RT-615 Tires. Message-ID: <002401cd3440$00b95670$022c0350$@cox.net> 195/60R14 $84.87 each from http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse.com/Falken_Azenis_RT_615_Tires.cfm They are such a radical departure from my 14 year Pirelli p6's I must say. The Pirelli's were as hard as rocks and 1/2 as sticky. Living on the San Marcos pass and driving down Old San Marcos Road almost daily, the Pirelli's tested my sanity. The question was which end was going to step out at any time, and could I stop if I had too? The new tires are so good, that I've gotten up on two wheels twice already and it stops on a dime. These are really street legal Solo I/II tires and they feel sooooo good. I'm sorry I missed you guys at Solvang again this year. I only live here, but I couldn't get over there due to other live priorites. I did see a 10+ Roadster caravan coming up near the bottom of HWY 154 on that Friday mid morning. I honked & waved like a maniac from a giant (lifted) White Chevy truck. (You guys were just coming up on a radically slowed traffic jam.) My wife said I cried, but I don't think so. (Ok I did) Walt Peterson Santa Barbara 20R Street Racer "Datsa 67" From az589 at lafn.org Thu May 17 12:48:27 2012 From: az589 at lafn.org (Stan Chernoff) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 11:48:27 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for Early 44 Solex Throttle Linkage parts. In-Reply-To: <002301cd343d$ca64de70$5f2e9b50$@cox.net> References: <002301cd343d$ca64de70$5f2e9b50$@cox.net> Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20120517114726.046ea568@lafn.org> Walt, Just get one from a 1600 and go for it. Stan ========= At 08:00 AM 5/17/2012, Walter.Peterson wrote: >There are two sets of Throttle Linkages pulling open the carburetor's (one >per carb). >One of these broke off a socket end so I lost one carburetor while at full >song in 3 gear going up the last 2 curves on HWY154 before my exit. 7000RPM >~ 100mph = Big Smile. I coasted off at West Camino Cielo and limped home the >last mile onto our private driveway and walked the last 600 yards, also a >Big Smile. (Like surviving an emergency parachute drop I suppose) > >As I recall these parts are made of un-obtainium, but if you know where I >can get just 1/2 of 1 set (Just 1 rod end) I would be very grateful. These >are made with 2 sets of threaded rod-ends and a union w/two jamb nuts. > >I have emailed Wolf racing already and awaiting a response, but I'm only >hopeful there. From ljordan704 at netscape.net Thu May 17 13:09:14 2012 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda Jordan) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 12:09:14 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] I love my new Falken Azenis RT-615 Tires. In-Reply-To: <002401cd3440$00b95670$022c0350$@cox.net> References: <002401cd3440$00b95670$022c0350$@cox.net> Message-ID: Walt, Get it together for next year! Linda Sent from my iPod On May 17, 2012, at 8:16 AM, "Walter.Peterson" wrote: > 195/60R14 $84.87 each from > http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse.com/Falken_Azenis_RT_615_Tires.cfm > They are such a radical departure from my 14 year Pirelli p6's I must say. > The Pirelli's were as hard as rocks and 1/2 as sticky. Living on the San > Marcos pass and driving down Old San Marcos Road almost daily, the Pirelli's > tested my sanity. The question was which end was going to step out at any > time, and could I stop if I had too? > > The new tires are so good, that I've gotten up on two wheels twice already > and it stops on a dime. These are really street legal Solo I/II tires and > they feel sooooo good. > > > I'm sorry I missed you guys at Solvang again this year. I only live here, > but I couldn't get over there due to other live priorites. > I did see a 10+ Roadster caravan coming up near the bottom of HWY 154 on > that Friday mid morning. I honked & waved like a maniac from a giant > (lifted) White Chevy truck. (You guys were just coming up on a radically > slowed traffic jam.) My wife said I cried, but I don't think so. (Ok I did) > > > Walt Peterson > Santa Barbara > 20R Street Racer > "Datsa 67" > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From Walter.Peterson at cox.net Fri May 18 08:59:36 2012 From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter.Peterson) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 07:59:36 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Still looking for Throttle Linkage parts. (2000 solex or 1600/1500) Message-ID: <001c01cd3506$d8599d80$890cd880$@cox.net> I've been told the 1600 or 1500 SU linkages (drag links?) will work. I have a spare set of 2000 SU's that were shoe-horned onto a wildly ported 1600 manifold w/isolators. These links are too long. If I get desperate enough, I may have to put them on and save some gas too. But who really wants track-able & tame street type throttle response when you can have hit me over the head with on/off power? The remainder broken piece can be seen here: https://skydrive.live.com/embed?cid=2A590C41F68A7CF7&resid=2A590C41F68A7CF7% 21280&authkey=ACjhtDTW0XlzpdM The socket end I took off the car last night was a little caramelized. I guess I delayed getting the heat shield installed, just a little too long. (over the center cylinders) So if you know where/who I can get some linkages for, please advise me. Thank you, Walt Peterson Santa Barbara 20R Street Racer (Parked) "Datsa 67" From les at classicdatsun.com Fri May 18 22:19:45 2012 From: les at classicdatsun.com (Les Cannaday) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 21:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Fantastic new Datsun/Nissan Racing event Message-ID: <1337401185.90534.YahooMailClassic@web184413.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> To all you fans out there with Datsun or Nissan Race cars or just fans of racing in general I am very proud to be able to tell everyone finally about the Legends of Datsun/Nissan racing event hosted by the Riverside International Automotive Museum and put on with help of the Vintage Sedan Racers Group(VSRG) and honoring John Morton for his incredible racing career. We have 2 nights at The Riverside museum on June 21-22 to spend the evening with a wide variety of people that raced, built or sold racing parts from the 60s through the early 2000s and the guest list includes famous teams and independent racers from all areas and all types of road racing. I cannot possibly list all the people but you can count on there being many of the BRE team and a bunch of the guys from Electramotive,and NPTI as well as many of the privateers. We will have some panel discussions as well as some videos and a catered dinner on friday evening with a bar. Adam Carolla will be there with a few of his historic Datsun Race cars. If this part of the event was not enough we also have 3 days of vintage racing tied in at the local California Speedway with the big summer event with HSR West racing and we will have a large B-sedan/Trans-Am race as well as an all Datsun race for the rest of the cars. We don't have all the details on the track event entry costs for spectators yet but we are trying to work out a way to lower the cost at the track. We will have limited seats for this event. We will be encouraging participants to bring items for the charity auction and hopefully something so we can create a permanent display of the rich history of Nissan at Riverside Raceway we will have a bunch of Datsun Race cars to enjoy and a very enjoyable weekend of events. John Morton will be driving a 510 at the track event on Sat and Sunday. Please go to www.LegendsofRiverside.com/Tribute to purchase tickets and follow the list of invitees as we post them. By the way the charities we are helping are the Boys Republic which is Chad McQueens efforts to help at risk youth and the Paralyzed Veterans of America San Diego chapter which has a motorsports program that one of our B-sedan racers Duane Norman is the head of their efforts. Thank you all and look forward to seeing many of you at the events.Les Cannaday Les Cannaday Classic Datsun Motorsports 345 Olive Ave Vista, CA 92083 (760)940-6365 (866)288-8340 fax From Walter.Peterson at cox.net Sat May 19 10:15:45 2012 From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter.Peterson) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 09:15:45 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Found & ordered my replacement Throttle Linkage parts. Message-ID: <008101cd35da$a5b7c800$f1275800$@cox.net> I've just ordered some all metal links from Pierce Manifolds. (No caramelizing of plastic socket ends) The socket ends will accept the 5/16" balls on our carbs and the center adjustment screw will need to get shortened a little bit. http://www.piercemanifolds.com/product_p/75500.070.htm. I also ordered some return springs as well. Also I really didn't want folks to break up working or complete sets. Thank you for the several offers I received, the Roadster Ring is working great! Walt Peterson Santa Barbara 20R Street Racer "Datsa 67" -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Walter.Peterson Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 8:00 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Still looking for Throttle Linkage parts. (2000 solex or 1600/1500) I've been told the 1600 or 1500 SU linkages (drag links?) will work. I have a spare set of 2000 SU's that were shoe-horned onto a wildly ported 1600 manifold w/isolators. These links are too long. If I get desperate enough, I may have to put them on and save some gas too. But who really wants track-able & tame street type throttle response when you can have hit me over the head with on/off power? The remainder broken piece can be seen here: https://skydrive.live.com/embed?cid=2A590C41F68A7CF7&resid=2A590C41F68A7CF7% 21280&authkey=ACjhtDTW0XlzpdM The socket end I took off the car last night was a little caramelized. I guess I delayed getting the heat shield installed, just a little too long. (over the center cylinders) So if you know where/who I can get some linkages for, please advise me. Thank you, Walt Peterson Santa Barbara 20R Street Racer (Parked) "Datsa 67" ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/walter.peterson at cox.n et From henhernandez at gmail.com Sat May 19 11:20:51 2012 From: henhernandez at gmail.com (henry hernandez) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 13:20:51 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] will this motor fit ? Message-ID: hello i have a 1967.5 roadster that im rebuilding iwant to buy a nice 240z 1974 motor and 4 speed tranny i need to know if this is possible i still have the original 4cly that runs and all just didnt want to put mad money into it and not have the torq im looking for on my sunday drives in the near future please let me know as for the motor is available right now.. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of roadster.jpg] From mark at bradakis.com Sat May 19 12:32:19 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 12:32:19 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] will this motor fit ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FB7E733.9020100@bradakis.com> > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of roadster.jpg] > > The mailing lists do not allow attachments, basically to help keep bad things out of your mailboxes. But one can post photos in the forums, which I basically got working last night. Link below. Still some issues, like user avatars not being displayed, but one can log in and post, or read existing posts with no trouble. mjb. From aultgc at att.net Sat May 19 13:30:30 2012 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 14:30:30 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] will this motor fit ? References: Message-ID: <08BAAFA1BC8142239E722A866F5F25DC@gaxp1> Henry, I think have heard of once instance of a 240Z motor being put into a roadster, with great difficulty. Most people have opted for KA24 or SR20DE motors. There are several potential swaps discussed on the 311s.org site. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "henry hernandez" To: Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 12:20 PM Subject: [Roadsters] will this motor fit ? > hello i have a 1967.5 roadster that im rebuilding iwant to buy a nice 240z > 1974 motor and 4 speed tranny i need to know if this is possible i still > have the original 4cly that runs and all just didnt want to put mad money > into it and not have the torq im looking for on my sunday drives in the > near future please let me know as for the motor is available right now.. > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > roadster.jpg] > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From robbieharrison at comcast.net Sat May 19 13:32:48 2012 From: robbieharrison at comcast.net (robbieharrison at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 19:32:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] free 1600 parts cars in Elizabeth City, NC Message-ID: <1556331536.553570.1337455968454.JavaMail.root@sz0137a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Two 1600s, only good for parts. Both have been parked and in the weather since approximately 1990. My father was a lurker on the list, rarely posted. He passed away last Sunday, and I am in NC helping Mom. If anyone has interest in saving these from the scrap yard please email me at robbieharrison at comcast.net . One appears to have a complete drivetrain, second is mi ssing carbs. A flatbed will be needed to move them. Mom is very understanding (she's letting all 3 2000s stay in the lean-to shed), but she would like these to be gone before summer is over. I can send pictures if anyone is interested. I won't kid anybody, these cars are far beyond restorable, but if you need mechanical parts, don't live too far away, B and have the ability to dispose of the cars, they might be worth hauling away. I'm heading back to CT in a couple days, so I won't be able to part them out. Robbie Harrison West Haven CT From davesmbox at aol.com Sat May 19 14:09:06 2012 From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 16:09:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] free 1600 parts cars in Elizabeth City, NC In-Reply-To: <1556331536.553570.1337455968454.JavaMail.root@sz0137a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1556331536.553570.1337455968454.JavaMail.root@sz0137a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <8CF041260A6564A-2438-2FF73@webmail-m136.sysops.aol.com> Sorry about your Dad. I am sure the list will find a home for them. It will preserve both their memories Dave -----Original Message----- From: robbieharrison To: datsun-roadsters Sent: Sat, May 19, 2012 3:33 pm Subject: [Roadsters] free 1600 parts cars in Elizabeth City, NC Two 1600s, only good for parts. Both have been parked and in the weather since pproximately 1990. My father was a lurker on the list, rarely posted. He assed away last Sunday, and I am in NC helping Mom. If anyone has interest in aving these from the scrap yard please email me at robbieharrison at comcast.net One appears to have a complete drivetrain, second is mi ssing carbs. A latbed will be needed to move them. Mom is very understanding (she's letting ll 3 2000s stay in the lean-to shed), but she would like these to be gone efore summer is over. I can send pictures if anyone is interested. I won't id anybody, these cars are far beyond restorable, but if you need mechanical arts, don't live too far away, B and have the ability to dispose of the cars, hey might be worth hauling away. I'm heading back to CT in a couple days, so won't be able to part them out. Robbie Harrison West Haven CT _______________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/davesmbox at aol.com From aultgc at att.net Sat May 19 14:39:58 2012 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 15:39:58 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Rear Wheel Studs Message-ID: Has anyone on the List replaced rear wheel studs? If so, do the axles need to be removed to change them? To the extent that it makes a difference, the car in question is a '67-1/2. Thanks. Gary From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sat May 19 15:28:25 2012 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 21:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] will this motor fit ? In-Reply-To: <08BAAFA1BC8142239E722A866F5F25DC@gaxp1> Message-ID: <542804000.569608.1337462905694.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I've seen pics of two; one a racer. Lotsa work and hood clearance issues. What does "enough torque I'm looking for" mean? You don't say whether you have a R16 or U20 nor whether you've even driven a stock engine. Pete Brock and John Morton did okay with 'em. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "henry hernandez" , datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 12:30:30 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] will this motor fit ? Henry, I think have heard of once instance of a 240Z motor being put into a roadster, with great difficulty. Most people have opted for KA24 or SR20DE motors. There are several potential swaps discussed on the 311s.org site. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "henry hernandez" To: Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 12:20 PM Subject: [Roadsters] will this motor fit ? > hello i have a 1967.5 roadster that im rebuilding iwant to buy a nice 240z > 1974 motor and 4 speed tranny i need to know if this is possible i still > have the original 4cly that runs and all just didnt want to put mad money > into it and not have the torq im looking for on my sunday drives in the > near future please let me know as for the motor is available right now.. From 68roadster at charter.net Sat May 19 17:37:49 2012 From: 68roadster at charter.net (Dennis Louthan) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 16:37:49 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 50th aniv badges Message-ID: <4FB82ECD.5020706@charter.net> Finally got around to checking the Email....is it possible to get one. Dennis From graemes at internode.on.net Sat May 19 19:20:49 2012 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 10:50:49 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] Rear Wheel Studs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FB846F1.4010301@internode.on.net> I think you'll find that the rear axle has to be extracted slightly to get the old ones out as well as re-insert the new. This is a definite if you are wanting to instal longer wheel studs. Regards, Graeme Suckling http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia. On 20/05/2012 6:09 AM, Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > Has anyone on the List replaced rear wheel studs? If so, do the axles need to > be removed to change them? To the extent that it makes a difference, the car > in question is a '67-1/2. Thanks. > > Gary > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on.net From bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com Sat May 19 19:54:05 2012 From: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com (bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 21:54:05 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Rear Wheel Studs In-Reply-To: <4FB846F1.4010301@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <20120520015406.EJPWB.104708.root@hrndva-web07-z02> Actually, there is another way. If you don't mind drilling an appropriately sized hole in the backing plate you can insert new, longer studs through the hole. I used that technique to put long ARP studs on my car - then used a lug nut to "pull" the stud into the flange. If you're careful, you can drill the hole in the right spot and then use a rubber plug to seal it back up if so desired. Doing it this way doesn't require pulling the collar off of the axle which is a PITA. Good luck, Brian 69 2000 Tampa FL ---- Graeme Suckling wrote: > I think you'll find that the rear axle has to be extracted slightly to > get the old ones out as well as re-insert the new. > This is a definite if you are wanting to instal longer wheel studs. > > Regards, > Graeme Suckling > http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza > Adelaide > South Australia. > > > On 20/05/2012 6:09 AM, Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > > Has anyone on the List replaced rear wheel studs? If so, do the axles need to > > be removed to change them? To the extent that it makes a difference, the car > > in question is a '67-1/2. Thanks. > > > > Gary > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com From stephen.holst at randrglobal.com Sun May 20 07:45:30 2012 From: stephen.holst at randrglobal.com (Stephen Holst) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 09:45:30 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Rear Wheel Studs In-Reply-To: <20120520015406.EJPWB.104708.root@hrndva-web07-z02> Message-ID: On the otherhand "when was the last time you re-greased the wheel bearings?" After 40-50 years it gets pretty dry. Steve On 5/19/12 9:54 PM, "bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com" wrote: > Actually, there is another way. If you don't mind drilling an appropriately > sized hole in the backing plate you can insert new, longer studs through the > hole. I used that technique to put long ARP studs on my car - then used a lug > nut to "pull" the stud into the flange. If you're careful, you can drill the > hole in the right spot and then use a rubber plug to seal it back up if so > desired. > Doing it this way doesn't require pulling the collar off of the axle which is > a PITA. > Good luck, > Brian > 69 2000 > Tampa FL > > > ---- Graeme Suckling wrote: >> I think you'll find that the rear axle has to be extracted slightly to >> get the old ones out as well as re-insert the new. >> This is a definite if you are wanting to instal longer wheel studs. >> >> Regards, >> Graeme Suckling >> http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza >> Adelaide >> South Australia. >> >> >> On 20/05/2012 6:09 AM, Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: >>> Has anyone on the List replaced rear wheel studs? If so, do the axles need >>> to >>> be removed to change them? To the extent that it makes a difference, the >>> car >>> in question is a '67-1/2. Thanks. >>> >>> Gary >>> ________________________________________ >>> >>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on. >>> net >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.c >> om > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/stephen.holst at randrglob > al.com From bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com Sun May 20 10:36:32 2012 From: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com (bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 16:36:32 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Rear Wheel Studs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20120520163633.O41CW.136806.root@hrndva-web04-z01> The rear wheel bearings are lubricated by the gear oil in the diff, you don't repack them like you do at the front. the issue with putting longer studs into the flange at the rear is that you have to take the backing plate off which requires removing the bearing collar (retainer). It typically has to be cut off - it's something to be avoided unless you're changing the rear axle bearings anyway... Brian 69 2000 Tampa FL ---- Stephen Holst wrote: > On the otherhand "when was the last time you re-greased the wheel bearings?" > After 40-50 years it gets pretty dry. > Steve > > > On 5/19/12 9:54 PM, "bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com" > wrote: > > > Actually, there is another way. If you don't mind drilling an appropriately > > sized hole in the backing plate you can insert new, longer studs through the > > hole. I used that technique to put long ARP studs on my car - then used a lug > > nut to "pull" the stud into the flange. If you're careful, you can drill the > > hole in the right spot and then use a rubber plug to seal it back up if so > > desired. > > Doing it this way doesn't require pulling the collar off of the axle which is > > a PITA. > > Good luck, > > Brian > > 69 2000 > > Tampa FL > > > > > > ---- Graeme Suckling wrote: > >> I think you'll find that the rear axle has to be extracted slightly to > >> get the old ones out as well as re-insert the new. > >> This is a definite if you are wanting to instal longer wheel studs. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Graeme Suckling > >> http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza > >> Adelaide > >> South Australia. > >> > >> > >> On 20/05/2012 6:09 AM, Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > >>> Has anyone on the List replaced rear wheel studs? If so, do the axles need > >>> to > >>> be removed to change them? To the extent that it makes a difference, the > >>> car > >>> in question is a '67-1/2. Thanks. > >>> > >>> Gary > >>> ________________________________________ > >>> > >>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > >>> > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>> Unsubscribe: > >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on. > >>> net > >> ________________________________________ > >> > >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.c > >> om > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/stephen.holst at randrglob > > al.com From az589 at lafn.org Sun May 20 11:12:26 2012 From: az589 at lafn.org (Stan Chernoff) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 10:12:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Rear Wheel Studs In-Reply-To: <20120520163633.O41CW.136806.root@hrndva-web04-z01> References: <20120520163633.O41CW.136806.root@hrndva-web04-z01> Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20120520100201.04f74c60@lafn.org> The rear axle bearings are in fact packed with grease. There is a "GREASE CATCHER" outboard of the axle bearing and an oil seal inboard of the bearing that is pressed into the housing that prevents the diff oil from getting to the bearing unless it fails. It is possible to regrease the bearing with a grease gun nozzle tip that has a very small opening and a relatively long tip. These tips are available at auto supply stores. Axle bearing grease is recommended. It is not recommended that the bearing be removed and then reused because it is likely that the bearing will be damaged during its removal. A bearing retainer collar should never be reused. These parts are available from Nissan. I have some kits available that include the bearing, collar and grease catcher. Stan =========== At 09:36 AM 5/20/2012, bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com wrote: >The rear wheel bearings are lubricated by the gear oil in the diff, >you don't repack them like you do at the front. the issue with >putting longer studs into the flange at the rear is that you have to >take the backing plate off which requires removing the bearing >collar (retainer). It typically has to be cut off - it's something >to be avoided unless you're changing the rear axle bearings anyway... > >Brian >69 2000 >Tampa FL > > >---- Stephen Holst wrote: > > On the otherhand "when was the last time you re-greased the wheel > bearings?" > > After 40-50 years it gets pretty dry. > > Steve > > > > > > On 5/19/12 9:54 PM, "bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com" > > wrote: From tommy at dcwisp.net Sun May 20 11:21:28 2012 From: tommy at dcwisp.net (Thomas Thompson) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 10:21:28 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Rear Wheel Studs In-Reply-To: <20120520163633.O41CW.136806.root@hrndva-web04-z01> References: <20120520163633.O41CW.136806.root@hrndva-web04-z01> Message-ID: <44B3298650634C10AFCD93E3D18330B1@ThompsonPC> Actually, unlike many British sports cars of old, Datsun Roadster rear bearings are not lubricated by the differential oil. Here'a link from our old Mt. Shasta Meet friend and long-time Roadster enthusiast, Tom Walter, regarding the rear bearings: http://www.nowroc.org/Techtips/RearWheelBearing.htm. Tom Thompson SRL 311-13913 Roadster Owner since 1972 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rear Wheel Studs > The rear wheel bearings are lubricated by the gear oil in the diff, you > don't repack them like you do at the front. the issue with putting longer > studs into the flange at the rear is that you have to take the backing > plate off which requires removing the bearing collar (retainer). It > typically has to be cut off - it's something to be avoided unless you're > changing the rear axle bearings anyway... > > Brian > 69 2000 > Tampa FL > > > ---- Stephen Holst wrote: >> On the otherhand "when was the last time you re-greased the wheel >> bearings?" >> After 40-50 years it gets pretty dry. >> Steve >> >> >> On 5/19/12 9:54 PM, "bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com" >> wrote: >> >> > Actually, there is another way. If you don't mind drilling an >> > appropriately >> > sized hole in the backing plate you can insert new, longer studs >> > through the >> > hole. I used that technique to put long ARP studs on my car - then >> > used a lug >> > nut to "pull" the stud into the flange. If you're careful, you can >> > drill the >> > hole in the right spot and then use a rubber plug to seal it back up if >> > so >> > desired. >> > Doing it this way doesn't require pulling the collar off of the axle >> > which is >> > a PITA. >> > Good luck, >> > Brian >> > 69 2000 >> > Tampa FL >> > >> > >> > ---- Graeme Suckling wrote: >> >> I think you'll find that the rear axle has to be extracted slightly to >> >> get the old ones out as well as re-insert the new. >> >> This is a definite if you are wanting to instal longer wheel studs. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Graeme Suckling >> >> http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza >> >> Adelaide >> >> South Australia. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 20/05/2012 6:09 AM, Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: >> >>> Has anyone on the List replaced rear wheel studs? If so, do the >> >>> axles need >> >>> to >> >>> be removed to change them? To the extent that it makes a difference, >> >>> the >> >>> car >> >>> in question is a '67-1/2. Thanks. >> >>> >> >>> Gary >> >>> ________________________________________ >> >>> >> >>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >>> >> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >>> Unsubscribe: >> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on. >> >>> net >> >> ________________________________________ >> >> >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Unsubscribe: >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.c >> >> om >> > ________________________________________ >> > >> > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > Unsubscribe: >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/stephen.holst at randrglob >> > al.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tommy at dcwisp.net From robbieharrison at comcast.net Sun May 20 12:31:18 2012 From: robbieharrison at comcast.net (robbieharrison at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 18:31:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] free 1600 parts cars in Elizabeth City, NC In-Reply-To: <1556331536.553570.1337455968454.JavaMail.root@sz0137a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <648583370.573812.1337538678537.JavaMail.root@sz0137a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I took some pictures yesterday, they can be seen on Google+ by using the link below. If the rain lets up I'll take a few more pictures before heading back to CT tomorrow. Not looking to get anything for these cars, just need them to go to a new home. Dad would want them to help keep other roadsters on the road. https://plus.google.com/photos/104994290688393892518/albums/5744680494911526737 Robbie Harrison West Haven, CT ----- Original Message ----- From: robbieharrison at comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:32:48 PM Subject: [Roadsters] free 1600 parts cars in Elizabeth City, NC Two 1600s, only good for parts. Both have been parked and in the weather since approximately 1990. My father was a lurker on the list, rarely posted. He passed away last Sunday, and I am in NC helping Mom. If anyone has interest in saving these from the scrap yard please email me at robbieharrison at comcast.net . One appears to have a complete drivetrain, second is mi ssing carbs. A flatbed will be needed to move them. Mom is very understanding (she's letting all 3 2000s stay in the lean-to shed), but she would like these to be gone before summer is over. I can send pictures if anyone is interested. I won't kid anybody, these cars are far beyond restorable, but if you need mechanical parts, don't live too far away, B and have the ability to dispose of the cars, they might be worth hauling away. I'm heading back to CT in a couple days, so I won't be able to part them out. Robbie Harrison West Haven CT ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/robbieharrison at comcast.net From anwhiteford at att.net Sun May 20 13:51:25 2012 From: anwhiteford at att.net (Andrew Whiteford) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 12:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 5 th Gear vibration Message-ID: <1337543485.20271.YahooMailRC@web180416.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hello, Experiencing a vibration in the car's chassis in 5th gear only. As soon as I shift into 5th the vibration starts. The vibration is strongest at or below 3,000 RPM and weakens as the RPM climbs to and over 3,500. Engine is completely rebuilt (new everything including clutch) and all of the trans seals and bearings were replaced. No syncro's or gears were replaced. All looked good and the 5th gear was replaced to the new version by the previous owner. I ruled out the drive shaft balance because when down shifting from 5th to 4th at the same RPM and the vibration immediately goes away. Andrew From robbieharrison at comcast.net Sun May 20 16:07:03 2012 From: robbieharrison at comcast.net (robbieharrison at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 22:07:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] free 1600 parts cars in Elizabeth City, NC In-Reply-To: <1094219569-1337543153-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1571813575-@b15.c20.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <1888391033.579266.1337551623147.JavaMail.root@sz0137a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Good idea Pete. I just checked, I registered these years ago :-) Red is SPL311-31112 Silver is SPL311-27414 Robbie ----- Original Message ----- From: ppeters914 at comcast.net To: robbieharrison at comcast.net Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 3:45:52 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] free 1600 parts cars in Elizabeth City, NC I suggest getting the VIN's to the Roadster Registry at 311s.org. Pete Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: robbieharrison at comcast.net Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sun, 20 May 2012 18:31:18 To: Subject: Re: [Roadsters] free 1600 parts cars in Elizabeth City, NC I took some pictures yesterday, they can be seen on Google+ by using the link below. If the rain lets up I'll take a few more pictures before heading back to CT tomorrow. Not looking to get anything for these cars, just need them to go to a new home. Dad would want them to help keep other roadsters on the road. https://plus.google.com/photos/104994290688393892518/albums/5744680494911526737 Robbie Harrison West Haven, CT ----- Original Message ----- From: robbieharrison at comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:32:48 PM Subject: [Roadsters] free 1600 parts cars in Elizabeth City, NC Two 1600s, only good for parts. Both have been parked and in the weather since approximately 1990. My father was a lurker on the list, rarely posted. He passed away last Sunday, and I am in NC helping Mom. If anyone has interest in saving these from the scrap yard please email me at robbieharrison at comcast.net . One appears to have a complete drivetrain, second is mi ssing carbs. A flatbed will be needed to move them. Mom is very understanding (she's letting all 3 2000s stay in the lean-to shed), but she would like these to be gone before summer is over. I can send pictures if anyone is interested. I won't kid anybody, these cars are far beyond restorable, but if you need mechanical parts, don't live too far away, B and have the ability to dispose of the cars, they might be worth hauling away. I'm heading back to CT in a couple days, so I won't be able to part them out. Robbie Harrison West Haven CT ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/robbieharrison at comcast.net ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Sun May 20 19:41:28 2012 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (Paul Courson) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 21:41:28 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] free 1600 parts cars in Elizabeth City, NC In-Reply-To: <1888391033.579266.1337551623147.JavaMail.root@sz0137a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1094219569-1337543153-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1571813575-@b15.c20.bise6.blackberry> <1888391033.579266.1337551623147.JavaMail.root@sz0137a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Robbie I'm sorry to hear that your Dad will never get to these projects. I bet he thought about them many times the past 20 years they've been sitting. We vacation on the Outer Banks every year, and we've taken our 69 1600 to Corolla, at the north end. This year I'll tip the sun visor for your father as we head toward Rt. 12 ... >On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 6:07 PM, wrote: > Dad would want them to help keep other roadsters on the road. From rksmith46 at hotmail.com Mon May 21 09:03:26 2012 From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 11:03:26 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] will this motor fit ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hi henry, you are on the right track to boost the power in your car, but i think to put a longer engine in, you will have to move the fire wall back some to clear the eng. also a 74 eng. would be an L-26, 260Z eng. with bad carbs, which you would want to change. i would recommend a stock U-20 (2000 eng.). i put a U-20 in a 1600(it bolts right in), and kept the stock 3.89 rear end, and the 4 speed trans(1st and 2nd gears are lower than a 5 spd). i ran the 1600 against my stock 2000 and it beat the 2000, by 8 car lengths, up to 80 mph, after which my 2000 started to gain back a little. they were both stock 2000 engs. just my opinion. best of luck, bob smith, ohio >> >> >> > Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 13:20:51 -0400 > From: henhernandez at gmail.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] will this motor fit ? > > hello i have a 1967.5 roadster that im rebuilding iwant to buy a nice 240z > 1974 motor and 4 speed tranny i need to know if this is possible i still > have the original 4cly that runs and all just didnt want to put mad money > into it and not have the torq im looking for on my sunday drives in the > near future please let me know as for the motor is available right now.. > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of roadster.jpg] > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rksmith46 at hotmail.com From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com Mon May 21 09:12:21 2012 From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 11:12:21 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] will this motor fit ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Come on Bob, the L26 will fit without moving the firewall! Of course you'll have to relocate the radiator to the back seat! Everything else sounds good. Paul Ohio On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:03 AM, robert k. smith wrote: > hi henry, you are on the right track to boost the power in your car, > but i think to put a longer engine in, you will have to move the fire wall > back some to clear the eng. also a 74 eng. would be an L-26, 260Z > eng. with bad carbs, which you would want to change. > i would recommend a stock U-20 (2000 eng.). i put a U-20 > in a 1600(it bolts right in), and kept the stock 3.89 rear end, > and the 4 speed trans(1st and 2nd gears are lower than a > 5 spd). i ran the 1600 against my stock 2000 and it beat the > 2000, by 8 car lengths, up to 80 mph, after which my 2000 > started to gain back a little. they were both stock 2000 engs. > just my opinion. best of luck, bob smith, ohio > > >> > >> > >> > > > > Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 13:20:51 -0400 > > From: henhernandez at gmail.com > > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Subject: [Roadsters] will this motor fit ? > > > > hello i have a 1967.5 roadster that im rebuilding iwant to buy a nice > 240z > > 1974 motor and 4 speed tranny i need to know if this is possible i still > > have the original 4cly that runs and all just didnt want to put mad money > > into it and not have the torq im looking for on my sunday drives in the > > near future please let me know as for the motor is available right now.. > > > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name > of > roadster.jpg] > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rksmith46 at hotmail.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com From bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com Mon May 21 09:18:35 2012 From: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com (bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 11:18:35 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Rear Wheel Studs In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.2.20120520100201.04f74c60@lafn.org> Message-ID: <20120521151835.WBVJR.181812.root@hrndva-web19-z01> Must be visualizing my old bugeye - but I never put longer studs on that... Brian 69 2000 Tampa FL ---- Stan Chernoff wrote: > The rear axle bearings are in fact packed with grease. There is a > "GREASE CATCHER" outboard of the axle bearing and an oil seal inboard > of the bearing that is pressed into the housing that prevents the > diff oil from getting to the bearing unless it fails. It is possible > to regrease the bearing with a grease gun nozzle tip that has a very > small opening and a relatively long tip. These tips are available at > auto supply stores. Axle bearing grease is recommended. From rksmith46 at hotmail.com Mon May 21 09:22:23 2012 From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 11:22:23 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] will this motor fit ? In-Reply-To: References: , , Message-ID: thanks paul, i guess nothing is impossible. ill admitt i never saw the 240z eng. swap. i was making an educated guess, knowing how tight it is under the hood. so, was the end of the L-24 sticking out of the roadster's hood ? bob Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 11:12:21 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] will this motor fit ? From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com To: rksmith46 at hotmail.com CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Come on Bob, the L26 will fit without moving the firewall! Of course you'll have to relocate the radiator to the back seat! Everything else sounds good. Paul Ohio On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:03 AM, robert k. smith wrote: hi henry, you are on the right track to boost the power in your car, but i think to put a longer engine in, you will have to move the fire wall back some to clear the eng. also a 74 eng. would be an L-26, 260Z eng. with bad carbs, which you would want to change. i would recommend a stock U-20 (2000 eng.). i put a U-20 in a 1600(it bolts right in), and kept the stock 3.89 rear end, and the 4 speed trans(1st and 2nd gears are lower than a 5 spd). i ran the 1600 against my stock 2000 and it beat the 2000, by 8 car lengths, up to 80 mph, after which my 2000 started to gain back a little. they were both stock 2000 engs. just my opinion. best of luck, bob smith, ohio >> >> >> > Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 13:20:51 -0400 > From: henhernandez at gmail.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] will this motor fit ? > > hello i have a 1967.5 roadster that im rebuilding iwant to buy a nice 240z > 1974 motor and 4 speed tranny i need to know if this is possible i still > have the original 4cly that runs and all just didnt want to put mad money > into it and not have the torq im looking for on my sunday drives in the > near future please let me know as for the motor is available right now.. > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of roadster.jpg] > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rksmith46 at hotmail.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/paulsdatsunstuff at gmail .com From noji-1 at pacbell.net Mon May 21 09:47:35 2012 From: noji-1 at pacbell.net (dana nojima) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 08:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] free 1600 parts cars in Elizabeth City, NC Message-ID: <1337615255.25264.YahooMailRC@web83408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I'm so glad to be living on the west coast in somewhat dry weather. It is sad to see so much work of the tim worm on those cars. Happy to see that those cars could be put to some use. Dana Nojima noji-1 at pacbell.net 510.219.6474 From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com Mon May 21 11:35:39 2012 From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 13:35:39 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] will this motor fit ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There was a L24 swap into a roadster that was never finished. The engine fit, and the grille was on, but no radiator was to be seen under the hood? But I do remember a bug eyed Sprite with a 4.2 liter Jag straight 6 that was done quite nicely. Paul On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:22 AM, robert k. smith wrote: > thanks paul, i guess nothing is impossible. ill > admitt i never saw the 240z eng. swap. i was > making an educated guess, knowing how > tight it is under the hood. so, was the end > of the L-24 sticking out of the roadster's hood ? > bob > > > > > Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 11:12:21 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] will this motor fit ? > From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com > To: rksmith46 at hotmail.com > CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Come on Bob, the L26 will fit without moving the firewall! Of course > you'll > have to relocate the radiator to the back seat! Everything else sounds > good. > > Paul > Ohio > > > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:03 AM, robert k. smith > wrote: > > hi henry, you are on the right track to boost the power in your car, > but i think to put a longer engine in, you will have to move the fire wall > back some to clear the eng. also a 74 eng. would be an L-26, 260Z > eng. with bad carbs, which you would want to change. > i would recommend a stock U-20 (2000 eng.). i put a U-20 > in a 1600(it bolts right in), and kept the stock 3.89 rear end, > and the 4 speed trans(1st and 2nd gears are lower than a > 5 spd). i ran the 1600 against my stock 2000 and it beat the > 2000, by 8 car lengths, up to 80 mph, after which my 2000 > started to gain back a little. they were both stock 2000 engs. > just my opinion. best of luck, bob smith, ohio > > >> > >> > >> > > > > Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 13:20:51 -0400 > > From: henhernandez at gmail.com > > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Subject: [Roadsters] will this motor fit ? > > > > hello i have a 1967.5 roadster that im rebuilding iwant to buy a nice > 240z > > 1974 motor and 4 speed tranny i need to know if this is possible i still > > have the original 4cly that runs and all just didnt want to put mad money > > into it and not have the torq im looking for on my sunday drives in the > > near future please let me know as for the motor is available right now.. > > > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name > of > roadster.jpg] > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rksmith46 at hotmail.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/paulsdatsunstuff at gmail > .com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com From graemes at internode.on.net Mon May 21 18:49:53 2012 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 10:19:53 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] free 1600 parts cars in Elizabeth City, NC In-Reply-To: <1337615255.25264.YahooMailRC@web83408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1337615255.25264.YahooMailRC@web83408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4FBAE2B1.2030201@internode.on.net> Tim might take offence at that;-) Regards, Graeme Suckling http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia. On 22/05/2012 1:17 AM, dana nojima wrote: > I'm so glad to be living on the west coast in somewhat dry weather. It is sad > to see so much work of the tim worm on those cars. Happy to see that those > cars > could be put to some use. > > > Dana Nojima > noji-1 at pacbell.net > 510.219.6474 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on.net From phylam at sbcglobal.net Tue May 22 05:21:38 2012 From: phylam at sbcglobal.net (DAVID ALMAZAN) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 04:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 0 Message-ID: <1337685698.9725.BPMail_high_noncarrier@web83404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> . http://b-net.home.pl/shakesrx1112.html?xpage=x5zuy From boakes at gmail.com Wed May 23 12:28:48 2012 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 13:28:48 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Great video/story on a Datsun guy, in Seattle, I think Message-ID: <36CB0E62-523A-41D4-9A79-2BF1BF478DF8@gmail.com> Anyone know this guy? Ok, no roadsters in his collection, but still worth a watch. http://vimeo.com/42180356 From tputland at charter.net Wed May 23 12:43:46 2012 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 14:43:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Great video/story on a Datsun guy, in Seattle, I think Message-ID: <2dce0d9d.2350e2.1377b030e24.Webtop.44@charter.net> Outstanding! But why the early animosity towards the Z? And maybe this explains the lack of Roadster? tim On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Bill Oakes wrote: > Anyone know this guy? Ok, no roadsters in his collection, but still > worth a > watch. > > http://vimeo.com/42180356 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From gsglasgow at comcast.net Wed May 23 23:13:44 2012 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 22:13:44 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Great video/story on a Datsun guy, in Seattle, I think In-Reply-To: <36CB0E62-523A-41D4-9A79-2BF1BF478DF8@gmail.com> References: <36CB0E62-523A-41D4-9A79-2BF1BF478DF8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <008401cd396b$febd38b0$fc37aa10$@net> Great video, but he isn't in Seattle (we don't salt the roads here). Or at least that wasn't filmed in Seattle. The scenery looks more like Eastern Washington. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Oakes Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:29 AM To: Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] Great video/story on a Datsun guy, in Seattle, I think Anyone know this guy? Ok, no roadsters in his collection, but still worth a watch. http://vimeo.com/42180356 ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gsglasgow at comcast.net From phylam at sbcglobal.net Thu May 24 02:48:25 2012 From: phylam at sbcglobal.net (DAVID ALMAZAN) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 01:48:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] I Did It! 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Thanks, Dennis From ljordan704 at netscape.net Fri May 25 09:26:13 2012 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda Jordan) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 08:26:13 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 hood Message-ID: <58BFDB35-A894-4357-9C16-CD600281FB9B@netscape.net> Hi Bill Does a 67.5 hood fit on a 68? I'm looking for a hood to use while mine gets painted and there is a guy parting a 67.5. Someone I know has a boyfriend who really likes my car and she asked if I would sell, so I threw out the highest number I could think of at the moment, 15k.LOL Then I'd have to start over! Long weekend coming up, here comes summer Linda From pat at hornesystemstx.com Fri May 25 09:37:47 2012 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 10:37:47 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 hood In-Reply-To: <58BFDB35-A894-4357-9C16-CD600281FB9B@netscape.net> References: <58BFDB35-A894-4357-9C16-CD600281FB9B@netscape.net> Message-ID: <4FBFA74B.5080405@hornesystemstx.com> Linda, Seems to me the hood prop rod is on the opposite side, but it will still bolt up and latch. Someone with real documentation should let you know for sure. I have a 67.5 and the prop rod is on the driver's side. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Linda Jordan, On 5/25/2012 10:26 AM: > Hi Bill > Does a 67.5 hood fit on a 68? > I'm looking for a hood to use while mine gets painted and there is a guy > parting a 67.5. > Someone I know has a boyfriend who really likes my car and she asked if I > would sell, so I threw out the highest number I could think of at the moment, > 15k.LOL Then I'd have to start over! > Long weekend coming up, here comes summer > > Linda > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/pat at hornesystemstx.com > > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From stl at adnc.com Fri May 25 10:52:15 2012 From: stl at adnc.com (Steve Landuyt) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 09:52:15 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 hood In-Reply-To: <4FBFA74B.5080405@hornesystemstx.com> References: <58BFDB35-A894-4357-9C16-CD600281FB9B@netscape.net> <4FBFA74B.5080405@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: <34EC7D7E790E42E7A85EFB31B8E922AA@stephenl0111> The hood prop rod is also on the driver's side on my '69 2000. If anyone is looking for a hood, I have one that has never been installed, still in primer grey, and in perfect condition (no dents, scratches or rust)... the factory part number on the hood is "65100 A 3201". I won't give it away, but will be reasonable on the price. Steve Landuyt San Diego -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pat Horne Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 8:38 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 67.5 hood Linda, Seems to me the hood prop rod is on the opposite side, but it will still bolt up and latch. Someone with real documentation should let you know for sure. I have a 67.5 and the prop rod is on the driver's side. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Linda Jordan, On 5/25/2012 10:26 AM: > Hi Bill > Does a 67.5 hood fit on a 68? > I'm looking for a hood to use while mine gets painted and there is a guy > parting a 67.5. > Someone I know has a boyfriend who really likes my car and she asked if I > would sell, so I threw out the highest number I could think of at the moment, > 15k.LOL Then I'd have to start over! > Long weekend coming up, here comes summer > > Linda > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/pat at hornesystemstx.co m > > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/stl at adnc.com From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri May 25 12:16:20 2012 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 18:16:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 hood In-Reply-To: <58BFDB35-A894-4357-9C16-CD600281FB9B@netscape.net> Message-ID: <887790356.836575.1337969780104.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> It should. I have a late hood on my '66. A PO jury-rigged the attachment on the hood for the hood prop. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Jordan" To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 8:26:13 AM Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 hood Hi Bill Does a 67.5 hood fit on a 68? I'm looking for a hood to use while mine gets painted and there is a guy parting a 67.5. Someone I know has a boyfriend who really likes my car and she asked if I would sell, so I threw out the highest number I could think of at the moment, 15k.LOL Then I'd have to start over! Long weekend coming up, here comes summer Linda ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net From gsglasgow at comcast.net Fri May 25 12:25:50 2012 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 18:25:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 hood In-Reply-To: <887790356.836575.1337969780104.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1829273994.114306.1337970350115.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I think there's a bit of a difference in the hood latchB striker and how it mounts. I wound up with a later hood on my 67.5 and had to fabricate an adapter plate to make it fit right. Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA www.gordon-glasgow.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 11:16:20 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 67.5 hood It should. I have a late hood on my '66. A PO jury-rigged the attachment on the hood for the hood prop. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Jordan" To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 8:26:13 AM Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 hood Hi Bill Does a 67.5 hood fit on a 68? I'm looking for a hood to use while mine gets painted and there is a guy parting a 67.5. Someone I know has a boyfriend who really likes my car and she asked if I would sell, so I threw out the highest number I could think of at the moment, 15k.LOL Then I'd have to start over! Long weekend coming up, here comes summer Linda ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gsglasgow at comcast.net From aultgc at att.net Fri May 25 13:32:54 2012 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 14:32:54 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 hood References: <58BFDB35-A894-4357-9C16-CD600281FB9B@netscape.net> Message-ID: <39C6ED5952234E4CB098E5AFB308DDBF@gaxp1> Linda, Like some of the others, I have a late hood on ly early ('66) car. (It was what was available in 1973 when I had an unfortunate close encounter of the worst kind.) The hood prop on my '67-1/2 is on the left, but the I think the late hoods had shorter guides, on the hood rather than on the body, with the pivot on the body. Notice I said "I think". I have not been around any high-windshield cars lately, so I am not sure. In any event, if you use a late hood, I think it is likely you will need to somehow compensate for differences in hood prop configuration -- like with a temporary prop work-around -- if the early hood thing is just temporary. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Jordan" To: Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 10:26 AM Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 hood > Hi Bill > Does a 67.5 hood fit on a 68? > I'm looking for a hood to use while mine gets painted and there is a guy > parting a 67.5. > Someone I know has a boyfriend who really likes my car and she asked if I > would sell, so I threw out the highest number I could think of at the > moment, > 15k.LOL Then I'd have to start over! > Long weekend coming up, here comes summer > > Linda > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From tputland at charter.net Fri May 25 17:12:08 2012 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 19:12:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] OT anyone near Chillicothe, OH? Message-ID: <7612742d.2540be.137864575e2.Webtop.44@charter.net> I need a truck looked at please. Anyone close who can check out a vehicle for me? Please reply off list I guess. Thanks tim From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com Sat May 26 09:09:01 2012 From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 11:09:01 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Finally! Message-ID: I finally turned my winter shelf back into a roadster this morning. It fired right up and after checking a few things, I took it for a spin around the block. Got back home and decided it needed a good wash. Wonder why I waited so long? Over the winter I had thoughts of selling it. Had my eye on a RL411 SSS. Thankfully it was sold before I could drive to Delaware and drag it home. Maybe another roadster? Paul 1969 1600 now KA24E powered Ohio From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sat May 26 09:17:06 2012 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda Jordan) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 08:17:06 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Finally! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Maybe you like to tinker more than drive? In which case there is always another"project" to buy. Well, whatever you like, that's cool.:-) Linda Sent from my iPod On May 26, 2012, at 8:09 AM, Paul Kort wrote: > I finally turned my winter shelf back into a roadster this morning. It > fired right up and after checking a few things, I took it for a spin around > the block. Got back home and decided it needed a good wash. > Wonder why I waited so long? Over the winter I had thoughts of selling > it. Had my eye on a RL411 SSS. Thankfully it was sold before I could > drive to Delaware and drag it home. Maybe another roadster? > > Paul > 1969 1600 now KA24E powered > Ohio > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sat May 26 14:54:01 2012 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda Jordan) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 13:54:01 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Victor Laury Fun Run Message-ID: <906599DD-1415-442C-ABAD-23A846E49414@netscape.net> Posted on 311 by Ron Eastman is a announced Fun Run for So Cal area next weekend, details to follow: http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=16436 Linda From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net Sun May 27 01:30:23 2012 From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 00:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Victor Fun Run Message-ID: <1338103823.60518.YahooMailClassic@web181508.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Hey Ron, Newcombs ranch, Mt Wilson? Just making suggestions, From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sun May 27 08:58:05 2012 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda Jordan) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 07:58:05 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Victor Fun Run In-Reply-To: <1338103823.60518.YahooMailClassic@web181508.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1338103823.60518.YahooMailClassic@web181508.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I think Victor needs his picture taken--the Rock Store and Snake to Malibu. Linda Sent from my iPod On May 27, 2012, at 12:30 AM, Tom PRATHER wrote: > Hey Ron, Newcombs ranch, Mt Wilson? Just making suggestions, > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net Sun May 27 09:12:01 2012 From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Prather) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 08:12:01 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Victor Fun Run In-Reply-To: References: <1338103823.60518.YahooMailClassic@web181508.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5FC99E6C-ECE7-441F-B6A4-BDD5ADC887F9@sbcglobal.net> Linda, That's a great idea! I'm in Sent from Ipad On May 27, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Linda Jordan wrote: > I think Victor needs his picture taken--the Rock Store and Snake to Malibu. > > Linda > > Sent from my iPod > > On May 27, 2012, at 12:30 AM, Tom PRATHER wrote: > >> Hey Ron, Newcombs ranch, Mt Wilson? Just making suggestions, >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From d_kroninger at hotmail.com Sun May 27 09:52:50 2012 From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 10:52:50 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Nissan Skylines to be destroyed Message-ID: Hey all, Found this article in the Green Bay Press Gazette. Thought some of you might be interested. Its not roadster, but is nissan. Sad story, but probably should have known better. http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20120527/GPG0101/205270497/The-Fl at-Furious-De-Pere-man-s-illegal-cars-crushed?odyssey=tab|topnews|img|GPG-New s Dan Kroninger From geegc at aol.com Sun May 27 09:53:30 2012 From: geegc at aol.com (geegc at aol.com) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 15:53:30 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Victor Fun Run In-Reply-To: <5FC99E6C-ECE7-441F-B6A4-BDD5ADC887F9@sbcglobal.net> References: <1338103823.60518.YahooMailClassic@web181508.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <5FC99E6C-ECE7-441F-B6A4-BDD5ADC887F9@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <17970793-1338134013-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-767710449-@b5.c2.bise6.blackberry> Is it saturday, which I can do, or sunday, which I cannot? Gary Cohen Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: Tom Prather Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 08:12:01 To: Linda Jordan Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Victor Fun Run Linda, That's a great idea! I'm in Sent from Ipad On May 27, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Linda Jordan wrote: > I think Victor needs his picture taken--the Rock Store and Snake to Malibu. > > Linda > > Sent from my iPod > > On May 27, 2012, at 12:30 AM, Tom PRATHER wrote: > >> Hey Ron, Newcombs ranch, Mt Wilson? Just making suggestions, >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/geegc at aol.com From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com Sun May 27 09:58:15 2012 From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 11:58:15 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Nissan Skylines to be destroyed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: How stupid, and what a waste. Confiscate the cars, yes. Crush them, NO! Why not auction them off and use the money to help support the court? Make the new owner legalize the cars before taking possession. Only a laywer could come up with destroying perfectly good cars. IMHO, Paul Ohio On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Dan Kroninger wrote: > Hey all, > > Found this article in the Green Bay Press Gazette. Thought some of you > might > be interested. Its not roadster, but is nissan. Sad story, but probably > should have known better. > > > http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20120527/GPG0101/205270497/The-Fl > > at-Furious-De-Pere-man-s-illegal-cars-crushed?odyssey=tab|topnews|img|GPG-New > s > > Dan Kroninger > ________________________________________ From d_kroninger at hotmail.com Sun May 27 10:00:35 2012 From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 11:00:35 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Nissan Skylines to be destroyed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I agree, I think the issue is that the VIN tags were removed. So if the state sells them, they are just as guilty. Still a shame to crush them. They could at least be movie cars. Or show cars or even museum pieces. Just don't destroy them. Sent from my iPhone On May 27, 2012, at 10:58 AM, "Paul Kort" wrote: > How stupid, and what a waste. Confiscate the cars, yes. Crush them, NO! Why not auction them off and use the money to help support the court? Make the new owner legalize the cars before taking possession. Only a laywer could come up with destroying perfectly good cars. > > IMHO, > > Paul > Ohio > > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Dan Kroninger wrote: > Hey all, > > Found this article in the Green Bay Press Gazette. Thought some of you might > be interested. Its not roadster, but is nissan. Sad story, but probably > should have known better. > > http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20120527/GPG0101/205270497/The-Fl > at-Furious-De-Pere-man-s-illegal-cars-crushed?odyssey=tab|topnews|img|GPG-New > s > > Dan Kroninger > ________________________________________ From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sun May 27 10:37:57 2012 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 16:37:57 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Nissan Skylines to be destroyed Message-ID: <1272732514-1338136678-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1116576147-@b15.c20.bise6.blackberry> Your tax dollars at work. Swiss cheese for brains morons. Pete ------Original Message------ From: Dan Kroninger Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] Nissan Skylines to be destroyed Sent: May 27, 2012 8:52 AM Hey all, Found this article in the Green Bay Press Gazette. Thought some of you might be interested. Its not roadster, but is nissan. Sad story, but probably should have known better. http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20120527/GPG0101/205270497/The-Fl at-Furious-De-Pere-man-s-illegal-cars-crushed?odyssey=tab|topnews|img|GPG-New s Dan Kroninger ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com Sun May 27 11:02:11 2012 From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 13:02:11 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Nissan Skylines to be destroyed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: So Nissan can't determine what the VIN was? Too bad they weren't roadsters. The VIN would be stamped on the frame. Still a shame to have them destroyed. If nothing else, sell off some parts. Will that motor fit i a roadster? Hmmmm? Paul On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Dan Kroninger wrote: > I agree, I think the issue is that the VIN tags were removed. So if the > state sells them, they are just as guilty. Still a shame to crush them. > They could at least be movie cars. Or show cars or even museum pieces. > Just don't destroy them. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 27, 2012, at 10:58 AM, "Paul Kort" > wrote: > > How stupid, and what a waste. Confiscate the cars, yes. Crush them, > NO! Why not auction them off and use the money to help support the court? > Make the new owner legalize the cars before taking possession. Only a > laywer could come up with destroying perfectly good cars. > > IMHO, > > Paul > Ohio > > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Dan Kroninger wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> Found this article in the Green Bay Press Gazette. Thought some of you >> might >> be interested. Its not roadster, but is nissan. Sad story, but probably >> should have known better. >> >> >> http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20120527/GPG0101/205270497/The-Fl >> >> at-Furious-De-Pere-man-s-illegal-cars-crushed?odyssey=tab|topnews|img|GPG-New >> s >> >> Dan Kroninger >> ________________________________________ From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sun May 27 12:15:18 2012 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda Jordan) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 11:15:18 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Victor Fun Run In-Reply-To: <17970793-1338134013-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-767710449-@b5.c2.bise6.blackberry> References: <1338103823.60518.YahooMailClassic@web181508.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <5FC99E6C-ECE7-441F-B6A4-BDD5ADC887F9@sbcglobal.net> <17970793-1338134013-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-767710449-@b5.c2.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <239EB382-0EEF-4536-8A83-3BAD8676ABBF@netscape.net> No word yet on the day. I am watching 311 list for info Linda Sent from my iPod On May 27, 2012, at 8:53 AM, geegc at aol.com wrote: > Is it saturday, which I can do, or sunday, which I cannot? > > Gary Cohen > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Prather > Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 08:12:01 > To: Linda Jordan > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Victor Fun Run > > Linda, That's a great idea! I'm in > > Sent from Ipad > > On May 27, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Linda Jordan wrote: > >> I think Victor needs his picture taken--the Rock Store and Snake to Malibu. >> >> Linda >> >> Sent from my iPod >> >> On May 27, 2012, at 12:30 AM, Tom PRATHER wrote: >> >>> Hey Ron, Newcombs ranch, Mt Wilson? Just making suggestions, >>> ________________________________________ >>> >>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne > t > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/geegc at aol.com From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sun May 27 16:32:18 2012 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda Jordan) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 15:32:18 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Victor Fun Run In-Reply-To: <17970793-1338134013-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-767710449-@b5.c2.bise6.blackberry> References: <1338103823.60518.YahooMailClassic@web181508.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <5FC99E6C-ECE7-441F-B6A4-BDD5ADC887F9@sbcglobal.net> <17970793-1338134013-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-767710449-@b5.c2.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <4E0F1AFC-88D2-4E94-B584-E41EEE70BD28@netscape.net> >From the 311 list here is the link to the details. I may join up at the Santa Monica pier, not sure yet Sent from my iPod On May 27, 2012, at 8:53 AM, geegc at aol.com wrote: > Is it saturday, which I can do, or sunday, which I cannot? > > Gary Cohen > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Prather > Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 08:12:01 > To: Linda Jordan > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Victor Fun Run > > Linda, That's a great idea! I'm in > > Sent from Ipad > > On May 27, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Linda Jordan wrote: > >> I think Victor needs his picture taken--the Rock Store and Snake to Malibu. >> >> Linda >> >> Sent from my iPod >> >> On May 27, 2012, at 12:30 AM, Tom PRATHER wrote: >> >>> Hey Ron, Newcombs ranch, Mt Wilson? Just making suggestions, >>> ________________________________________ >>> >>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne > t > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/geegc at aol.com From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sun May 27 16:33:22 2012 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda Jordan) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 15:33:22 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Victor Fun Run In-Reply-To: <17970793-1338134013-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-767710449-@b5.c2.bise6.blackberry> References: <1338103823.60518.YahooMailClassic@web181508.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <5FC99E6C-ECE7-441F-B6A4-BDD5ADC887F9@sbcglobal.net> <17970793-1338134013-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-767710449-@b5.c2.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: Oops http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=16447 Linda Sent from my iPod On May 27, 2012, at 8:53 AM, geegc at aol.com wrote: > Is it saturday, which I can do, or sunday, which I cannot? > > Gary Cohen > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Prather > Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 08:12:01 > To: Linda Jordan > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Victor Fun Run > > Linda, That's a great idea! I'm in > > Sent from Ipad > > On May 27, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Linda Jordan wrote: > >> I think Victor needs his picture taken--the Rock Store and Snake to Malibu. >> >> Linda >> >> Sent from my iPod >> >> On May 27, 2012, at 12:30 AM, Tom PRATHER wrote: >> >>> Hey Ron, Newcombs ranch, Mt Wilson? Just making suggestions, >>> ________________________________________ >>> >>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne > t > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/geegc at aol.com From Ken.Smart at csiro.au Sun May 27 18:39:11 2012 From: Ken.Smart at csiro.au (Ken.Smart at csiro.au) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 10:39:11 +1000 Subject: [Roadsters] Nissan Skylines to be destroyed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <06F930F87D29AB48A06F30F1F21E65A1D3A83B15@EXNSW-MBX01.nexus.csiro.au> The article indicated that the VIN tags were with/near the car and all numbers matched. Vin number is stamped on the body, firewall I think? The owner rightly indicated that the tags are held on by plastic do-dads not rivets, they indicate level of trim, gear box configuration size of engine, etc. Why he didn't put them back on is weird, he said the PO took them off/ or the came off and posted them to him after he had the cars. May have been for painting or the do-dads go brittle with the heat. Senseless waste of time money and effort. Roadster content: My car has not been crushed, but it is still waiting patiently in the garage for me to do a restoration. She never complains, maybe that's the problem. Ken 67.5 SR20 Syd OZ -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Kort Sent: Monday, 28 May 2012 3:02 AM To: Dan Kroninger Cc: Datsun Mailing List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Nissan Skylines to be destroyed So Nissan can't determine what the VIN was? Too bad they weren't roadsters. The VIN would be stamped on the frame. Still a shame to have them destroyed. If nothing else, sell off some parts. Will that motor fit i a roadster? Hmmmm? Paul On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Dan Kroninger wrote: > I agree, I think the issue is that the VIN tags were removed. So if the > state sells them, they are just as guilty. Still a shame to crush them. > They could at least be movie cars. Or show cars or even museum pieces. > Just don't destroy them. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 27, 2012, at 10:58 AM, "Paul Kort" > wrote: > > How stupid, and what a waste. Confiscate the cars, yes. Crush them, > NO! Why not auction them off and use the money to help support the court? > Make the new owner legalize the cars before taking possession. Only a > laywer could come up with destroying perfectly good cars. > > IMHO, > > Paul > Ohio > > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Dan Kroninger wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> Found this article in the Green Bay Press Gazette. Thought some of you >> might >> be interested. Its not roadster, but is nissan. Sad story, but probably >> should have known better. >> >> >> http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20120527/GPG0101/205270497/The-Fl >> >> at-Furious-De-Pere-man-s-illegal-cars-crushed?odyssey=tab|topnews|img|GPG-New >> s >> >> Dan Kroninger >> ________________________________________ From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com Sun May 27 18:49:15 2012 From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 20:49:15 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Nissan Skylines to be destroyed In-Reply-To: <06F930F87D29AB48A06F30F1F21E65A1D3A83B15@EXNSW-MBX01.nexus.csiro.au> References: <06F930F87D29AB48A06F30F1F21E65A1D3A83B15@EXNSW-MBX01.nexus.csiro.au> Message-ID: The VIN tag on my roadster had several layers of over spray on it when I purchased the car. I use a dab of solvent to try and clean it. The next thing I know, I have a shiny metal tag. No words, no letters, just the last part on the VIN that is stamped on the tag. Am I in violation of that law? Nameless Ohio On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 8:39 PM, wrote: > The article indicated that the VIN tags were with/near the car and all > numbers > matched. > Vin number is stamped on the body, firewall I think? > The owner rightly indicated that the tags are held on by plastic do-dads > not > rivets, they indicate level of trim, gear box configuration size of engine, > etc. > Why he didn't put them back on is weird, he said the PO took them off/ or > the > came off and posted them to him after he had the cars. May have been for > painting or the do-dads go brittle with the heat. > > Senseless waste of time money and effort. > > Roadster content: > My car has not been crushed, but it is still waiting patiently in the > garage > for me to do a restoration. > She never complains, maybe that's the problem. > > Ken > 67.5 SR20 > Syd OZ > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Kort > Sent: Monday, 28 May 2012 3:02 AM > To: Dan Kroninger > Cc: Datsun Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Nissan Skylines to be destroyed > > So Nissan can't determine what the VIN was? Too bad they weren't > roadsters. The VIN would be stamped on the frame. Still a shame to have > them destroyed. If nothing else, sell off some parts. Will that motor fit > i a roadster? Hmmmm? > > Paul > > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Dan Kroninger > wrote: > > > I agree, I think the issue is that the VIN tags were removed. So if the > > state sells them, they are just as guilty. Still a shame to crush them. > > They could at least be movie cars. Or show cars or even museum pieces. > > Just don't destroy them. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On May 27, 2012, at 10:58 AM, "Paul Kort" > > wrote: > > > > How stupid, and what a waste. Confiscate the cars, yes. Crush them, > > NO! Why not auction them off and use the money to help support the > court? > > Make the new owner legalize the cars before taking possession. Only a > > laywer could come up with destroying perfectly good cars. > > > > IMHO, > > > > Paul > > Ohio > > > > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Dan Kroninger > wrote: > > > >> Hey all, > >> > >> Found this article in the Green Bay Press Gazette. Thought some of you > >> might > >> be interested. Its not roadster, but is nissan. Sad story, but > probably > >> should have known better. > >> > >> > >> > > http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20120527/GPG0101/205270497/The-Fl > >> > >> > > at-Furious-De-Pere-man-s-illegal-cars-crushed?odyssey=tab|topnews|img|GPG-New > < > http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20120527/GPG0101/205270497/The-F > > l%0Aat-Furious-De-Pere-man-s-illegal-cars-crushed?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Cimg > %7CGPG-New > > > >> s > >> > >> Dan Kroninger > >> ________________________________________ > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sun May 27 19:02:06 2012 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda Jordan) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 18:02:06 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Nissan Skylines to be destroyed In-Reply-To: References: <06F930F87D29AB48A06F30F1F21E65A1D3A83B15@EXNSW-MBX01.nexus.csiro.au> Message-ID: <50CF3C3A-BBA2-4C2F-BF35-01A6AC194548@netscape.net> I was thinking that if you had a copy of the plate lettering at the correct size you could print it on to a piece of clear vinyl sheet and then lay it down on the shiny metal plate. Vinyl would need to be like those stickers they put on your windsheild at oil change places. Linda Sent from my iPod On May 27, 2012, at 5:49 PM, Paul Kort wrote: > The VIN tag on my roadster had several layers of over spray on it when I > purchased the car. I use a dab of solvent to try and clean it. The next > thing I know, I have a shiny metal tag. No words, no letters, just the > last part on the VIN that is stamped on the tag. Am I in violation of that > law? > > Nameless > Ohio > > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 8:39 PM, wrote: > >> The article indicated that the VIN tags were with/near the car and all >> numbers >> matched. >> Vin number is stamped on the body, firewall I think? >> The owner rightly indicated that the tags are held on by plastic do-dads >> not >> rivets, they indicate level of trim, gear box configuration size of engine, >> etc. >> Why he didn't put them back on is weird, he said the PO took them off/ or >> the >> came off and posted them to him after he had the cars. May have been for >> painting or the do-dads go brittle with the heat. >> >> Senseless waste of time money and effort. >> >> Roadster content: >> My car has not been crushed, but it is still waiting patiently in the >> garage >> for me to do a restoration. >> She never complains, maybe that's the problem. >> >> Ken >> 67.5 SR20 >> Syd OZ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net >> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Kort >> Sent: Monday, 28 May 2012 3:02 AM >> To: Dan Kroninger >> Cc: Datsun Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Nissan Skylines to be destroyed >> >> So Nissan can't determine what the VIN was? Too bad they weren't >> roadsters. The VIN would be stamped on the frame. Still a shame to have >> them destroyed. If nothing else, sell off some parts. Will that motor fit >> i a roadster? Hmmmm? >> >> Paul >> >> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Dan Kroninger >> wrote: >> >>> I agree, I think the issue is that the VIN tags were removed. So if the >>> state sells them, they are just as guilty. Still a shame to crush them. >>> They could at least be movie cars. Or show cars or even museum pieces. >>> Just don't destroy them. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 27, 2012, at 10:58 AM, "Paul Kort" >>> wrote: >>> >>> How stupid, and what a waste. Confiscate the cars, yes. Crush them, >>> NO! Why not auction them off and use the money to help support the >> court? >>> Make the new owner legalize the cars before taking possession. Only a >>> laywer could come up with destroying perfectly good cars. >>> >>> IMHO, >>> >>> Paul >>> Ohio >>> >>> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Dan Kroninger >> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey all, >>>> >>>> Found this article in the Green Bay Press Gazette. Thought some of you >>>> might >>>> be interested. Its not roadster, but is nissan. Sad story, but >> probably >>>> should have known better. >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20120527/GPG0101/205270497/The-Fl >>>> >>>> >> >> at-Furious-De-Pere-man-s-illegal-cars-crushed?odyssey=tab|topnews|img|GPG-New >> < >> http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20120527/GPG0101/205270497/The-F >> >> l%0Aat-Furious-De-Pere-man-s-illegal-cars-crushed?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Cimg >> %7CGPG-New >>> >>>> s >>>> >>>> Dan Kroninger >>>> ________________________________________ >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/paulsdatsunstuff at gmail .com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com Sun May 27 20:08:25 2012 From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 19:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Nissan Skylines to be destroyed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1338170905.14736.YahooMailRC@web181007.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> make them into race cars, track-only. s 675MIZU ________________________________ From: Dan Kroninger To: Datsun Mailing List Sent: Sun, May 27, 2012 8:53:05 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Nissan Skylines to be destroyed Hey all, Found this article in the Green Bay Press Gazette. Thought some of you might be interested. Its not roadster, but is nissan. Sad story, but probably should have known better. http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20120527/GPG0101/205270497/The-Fl at-Furious-De-Pere-man-s-illegal-cars-crushed?odyssey=tab|topnews|img|GPG-New s Dan Kroninger ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Mon May 28 02:41:41 2012 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (Paul Courson) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 04:41:41 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Nissan Skylines to be destroyed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Interesting story, Dan. Looks like the guy's mistake was trying to sell them before Wisconsin's 25-year rule might have helped. Maryland has a law about serial number plates and stampings, mostly applied to firearms. Those without are melted down. But they aren't sold on the open market. Putting the car there was a good way to provoke authorities. I wasn't real impressed by a response said to be from the guy himself among posted comments, suggesting he would have waited until a potential buyer came and laid money on the table before disclosing there was no title. Good way to provoke the buyer. Article says he's got 'the means,' = $$; maybe he could have gotten a better lawyer. Didn't even see a quote from defense counsel, only the government. From dscrib2 at hotmail.com Mon May 28 11:35:28 2012 From: dscrib2 at hotmail.com (Dana Scribner) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 13:35:28 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] distrubitor Message-ID: This being Memorial Day I hope everyone has taken the time to thank those who gave their lives so we are able to live ours as we do. I have been having a problem with the idle on my 1969 2000 SU carb no emission car. I can set it then go for a ride and when I stop at a light the idle keeps dropping off it 100 or less or it stalls. At high idles it's fine. I gave up and took it "The Guy" wit 40 plus years on SU knowledge. Long story short he thought is is a distributor problem. I opened it up and there it was a broken spring sitting at the bottom. So this leads me to my questions. On the timing lever plate it is marked 7.5; I looked at my supply of parts and some are marked 17.5. Why?Are the weights different on the 2 distributors? How do you tell them apart?Are the springs different between the one marked 7.5 and the 17.5 distributor? How do you tell them apart?Where the vacuum advance is attacked to the housing I see the a 17.5 stamped in ink on the 17.5 marked timing lever. Are the 7.5 ones not marked?is the vacuum advance different between the 2? Dana S1969 2000 From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com Mon May 28 12:17:02 2012 From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 14:17:02 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] distrubitor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Weights are the same, springs are different. 7.5 is the non-smog advance cam. For that cam, one spring is real heavy wire and the other is a lighter weight spring. The heavy spring goes on the cam side with the longer slot. The shorter loop of the heavy spring gets connected to the weight not to the cam slot. Happy Memorial Day Joe Sent from my iPad On May 28, 2012, at 1:35 PM, Dana Scribner wrote: > This being Memorial Day I hope everyone has taken the time to thank those who > gave their lives so we are able to live ours as we do. I have been having a > problem with the idle on my 1969 2000 SU carb no emission car. I can set it > then go for a ride and when I stop at a light the idle keeps dropping off it > 100 or less or it stalls. At high idles it's fine. I gave up and took it "The > Guy" wit 40 plus years on SU knowledge. Long story short he thought is is a > distributor problem. I opened it up and there it was a broken spring sitting > at the bottom. So this leads me to my questions. On the timing lever plate it > is marked 7.5; I looked at my supply of parts and some are marked 17.5. > Why?Are the weights different on the 2 distributors? How do you tell them > apart?Are the springs different between the one marked 7.5 and the 17.5 > distributor? How do you tell them apart?Where the vacuum advance is attacked > to the housing I see the a 17.5 stamped in ink on the 17.5 marked timing > lever. Are the 7.5 ones not marked?is the vacuum advance different between the > 2? Dana S1969 2000 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/jrusso07 at rochester.rr. com From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Tue May 29 02:32:57 2012 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (Paul Courson) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 04:32:57 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] distrubitor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: To amplify a bit, the 17.5 curve increases the total advance beyond ideal performance as part of coping with the 'smog pump,' a U.S.-imposed contraption that injected a portion of exhaust fumes into the fresh air intake manifold. Removing the smog pump was supposed to be combined with recurving the distributor to the superior, non-U.S. specs for mechanical and vacuum timing advance. (Vacuum is not changed, but make sure it's functional, since the diaphragm and line can fail). There are still examples out there where the pump is long gone but the distributor was never recurved. Worth checking. It's a very easy retrofit. Use a dwell meter to check shaft wobble while you're at it. On Monday, May 28, 2012, Joe Russo wrote: > Weights are the same, springs are different. 7.5 is the non-smog advance cam. > For that cam, one spring is real heavy wire and the other is a lighter weight > spring. The heavy spring goes on the cam side with the longer slot. The > shorter loop of the heavy spring gets connected to the weight not to the cam > slot. > > Happy Memorial Day > > Joe > > Sent from my iPad > > On May 28, 2012, at 1:35 PM, Dana Scribner wrote: > >> This being Memorial Day I hope everyone has taken the time to thank those > who >> gave their lives so we are able to live ours as we do. I have been having > a >> problem with the idle on my 1969 2000 SU carb no emission car. I can set it >> then go for a ride and when I stop at a light the idle keeps dropping off > it >> 100 or less or it stalls. At high idles it's fine. I gave up and took it > "The >> Guy" wit 40 plus years on SU knowledge. Long story short he thought is is > a >> distributor problem. I opened it up and there it was a broken spring > sitting >> at the bottom. So this leads me to my questions. On the timing lever plate > it >> is marked 7.5; I looked at my supply of parts and some are marked 17.5. >> Why?Are the weights different on the 2 distributors? How do you tell them >> apart?Are the springs different between the one marked 7.5 and the 17.5 >> distributor? How do you tell them apart?Where the vacuum advance is > attacked >> to the housing I see the a 17.5 stamped in ink on the 17.5 marked timing >> lever. Are the 7.5 ones not marked?is the vacuum advance different between > the >> 2? Dana S1969 2000 From ljordan704 at netscape.net Tue May 29 09:46:46 2012 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda Jordan) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 08:46:46 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] distrubitor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7DE73FC1-50DF-4FF6-809F-79BA9B6A5E86@netscape.net> Are the springs available or anyone know the sizes? I imagine they should be replaced after awhile. Linda Sent from my iPod On May 28, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Joe Russo wrote: > Weights are the same, springs are different. 7.5 is the non-smog advance cam. > For that cam, one spring is real heavy wire and the other is a lighter weight > spring. The heavy spring goes on the cam side with the longer slot. The > shorter loop of the heavy spring gets connected to the weight not to the cam > slot. > > Happy Memorial Day > > Joe > > Sent from my iPad > > On May 28, 2012, at 1:35 PM, Dana Scribner wrote: > >> This being Memorial Day I hope everyone has taken the time to thank those > who >> gave their lives so we are able to live ours as we do. I have been having > a >> problem with the idle on my 1969 2000 SU carb no emission car. I can set it >> then go for a ride and when I stop at a light the idle keeps dropping off > it >> 100 or less or it stalls. At high idles it's fine. I gave up and took it > "The >> Guy" wit 40 plus years on SU knowledge. Long story short he thought is is > a >> distributor problem. I opened it up and there it was a broken spring > sitting >> at the bottom. So this leads me to my questions. On the timing lever plate > it >> is marked 7.5; I looked at my supply of parts and some are marked 17.5. >> Why?Are the weights different on the 2 distributors? How do you tell them >> apart?Are the springs different between the one marked 7.5 and the 17.5 >> distributor? How do you tell them apart?Where the vacuum advance is > attacked >> to the housing I see the a 17.5 stamped in ink on the 17.5 marked timing >> lever. Are the 7.5 ones not marked?is the vacuum advance different between > the >> 2? Dana S1969 2000 >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/jrusso07 at rochester.rr. > com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From aultgc at att.net Tue May 29 11:50:17 2012 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 10:50:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] distrubitor In-Reply-To: <7DE73FC1-50DF-4FF6-809F-79BA9B6A5E86@netscape.net> References: <7DE73FC1-50DF-4FF6-809F-79BA9B6A5E86@netscape.net> Message-ID: <1338313817.1934.YahooMailRC@web180207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Linda, Both Dean and Dann offer recurve kits which have the non-smog springs, cam and weights. Others may as well. They may also have just the springs, but I haven't checked. I don't know whether the emissions control configuration springs are still available or not. If interested, I can look the part up the part numbers. As Paul indicated, all you need is the 7.5 cam and springs. I think Nissan lists different vacuum control units for pre-smog and smog distributors, but I think the calibration was the same. Let me know if you want the numbers. Gary ________________________________ From: Linda Jordan To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, May 29, 2012 10:50:56 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] distrubitor Are the springs available or anyone know the sizes? I imagine they should be replaced after awhile. Linda Sent from my iPod On May 28, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Joe Russo wrote: > Weights are the same, springs are different. 7.5 is the non-smog advance cam. > For that cam, one spring is real heavy wire and the other is a lighter weight > spring. The heavy spring goes on the cam side with the longer slot. The > shorter loop of the heavy spring gets connected to the weight not to the cam > slot. > > Happy Memorial Day > > Joe > > Sent from my iPad > > On May 28, 2012, at 1:35 PM, Dana Scribner wrote: > >> This being Memorial Day I hope everyone has taken the time to thank those > who >> gave their lives so we are able to live ours as we do. I have been having > a >> problem with the idle on my 1969 2000 SU carb no emission car. I can set it >> then go for a ride and when I stop at a light the idle keeps dropping off > it >> 100 or less or it stalls. At high idles it's fine. I gave up and took it > "The >> Guy" wit 40 plus years on SU knowledge. Long story short he thought is is > a >> distributor problem. I opened it up and there it was a broken spring > sitting >> at the bottom. So this leads me to my questions. On the timing lever plate > it >> is marked 7.5; I looked at my supply of parts and some are marked 17.5. >> Why?Are the weights different on the 2 distributors? How do you tell them >> apart?Are the springs different between the one marked 7.5 and the 17.5 >> distributor? How do you tell them apart?Where the vacuum advance is > attacked >> to the housing I see the a 17.5 stamped in ink on the 17.5 marked timing >> lever. Are the 7.5 ones not marked?is the vacuum advance different between > the >> 2? Dana S1969 2000 >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/jrusso07 at rochester.rr. > com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Tue May 29 12:49:34 2012 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 11:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? Message-ID: <1338317374.68331.YahooMailClassic@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I recently switched my Twitter avatar pic to a shot of me in my '70 2000, and got a message from a follower in New Zealand asking if it was a Sunbeam Tiger. Used to having the Roadster mistaken for an MGB by automotive know-nothings, but the Tiger deal was a first for meb& Gary McCormick San Jose, CA '70 2000 SRL311-13291 From tomuo at comcast.net Tue May 29 13:01:29 2012 From: tomuo at comcast.net (Tom Duffy) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 12:01:29 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Vintage cars wanted for filming Message-ID: <4FC51D09.2030906@comcast.net> Doesn't look like there's any money in it, but they are looking for 67-73 cars for scenes in a movie about Steve Jobs, filming around Palo Alto soon. http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/tfr/3015793425.html Tom. From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Tue May 29 16:28:20 2012 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 15:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] My car was recognized online Message-ID: <1338330500.5350.YahooMailClassic@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> A senior producer at Golf Digest recognized my car from my Twitter avatar pic (Well, she asked if it was a '68 2000, but getting that close from a tiny avatar image is impressive). She plays golf and she knows Roadsters -- she might be the perfect woman... Gary McCormick San Jose, CA Twitter: @willotheglen '870 2000 SRL311-13291 From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Tue May 29 17:40:53 2012 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (Paul Courson) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 19:40:53 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] distrubitor In-Reply-To: <1338313817.1934.YahooMailRC@web180207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <7DE73FC1-50DF-4FF6-809F-79BA9B6A5E86@netscape.net> <1338313817.1934.YahooMailRC@web180207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Gary has sent me an excellent explainer of Nissan's antipollution system that included different distributor weights and springs for the U.S. market. He gently corrected my misunderstanding of the "smog pump," by pointing out it injects air, not exhaust fumes !!! Over the years, the notion of a "smog pump" and how it seemed like such an afterthought, made for a much darker grasp of the matter, for me. Thanks Gary for the illumination. My 311still had the "smog pump" on there. The car had 41,000 original miles when I bought it in 1984, and as far as I could tell, the air injection system still worked. I got a set of 7.5 degree mechanical advance weights and countersprings and installed them when I took it off, and the car's performance improved quite a lot. Paul On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > Linda, > > Both Dean and Dann offer recurve kits which have the non-smog springs, > cam and > weights. B Others may as well. B They may also have just the springs, > but I > haven't checked. B I don't know whether the emissions control > configuration > springs are still available or not. B If interested, I can look > the part up the > part numbers. B As Paul indicated, all you need is the 7.5 cam > and springs. B I > think Nissan lists different vacuum control units for > pre-smog and smog > distributors, but I think the calibration was the same. > Let me know if you want > the numbers. > > Gary From davesmbox at aol.com Tue May 29 19:07:09 2012 From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 21:07:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? In-Reply-To: <1338317374.68331.YahooMailClassic@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1338317374.68331.YahooMailClassic@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CF0C17AC38C0D3-13C-491D@Webmail-m117.sysops.aol.com> The tiger is actually not an attractive car unlike the roadster and MGB Dave -----Original Message----- From: Gary McCormick To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Tue, May 29, 2012 2:50 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? I recently switched my Twitter avatar pic to a shot of me in my '70 2000, and ot a message from a follower in New Zealand asking if it was a Sunbeam Tiger. sed to having the Roadster mistaken for an MGB by automotive know-nothings, ut the Tiger deal was a first for meb& Gary McCormick an Jose, CA 70 2000 SRL311-13291 _______________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/davesmbox at aol.com From ljordan704 at netscape.net Tue May 29 19:16:56 2012 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda Jordan) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 18:16:56 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] My car was recognized online In-Reply-To: <1338330500.5350.YahooMailClassic@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1338330500.5350.YahooMailClassic@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <52DB82B6-CA96-43A1-BA29-435A33A1ECB3@netscape.net> LOL Sent from my iPod On May 29, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Gary McCormick wrote: > A senior producer at Golf Digest recognized my car from my Twitter avatar pic (Well, she asked if it was a '68 2000, but getting that close from a tiny avatar image is impressive). > > She plays golf and she knows Roadsters -- she might be the perfect woman... > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > Twitter: @willotheglen > '870 2000 SRL311-13291 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From sumton at sbcglobal.net Tue May 29 19:24:00 2012 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (dave n) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 20:24:00 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? In-Reply-To: <8CF0C17AC38C0D3-13C-491D@Webmail-m117.sysops.aol.com> References: <1338317374.68331.YahooMailClassic@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8CF0C17AC38C0D3-13C-491D@Webmail-m117.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <7E61210B0DEF45F0907B409CB2915616@ranteer.local> I totally disagree. I think its very roadsterish and an easy mistake for a non car person. -----Original Message----- From: davesmbox at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:07 PM To: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net ; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? The tiger is actually not an attractive car unlike the roadster and MGB Dave -----Original Message----- From: Gary McCormick To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Tue, May 29, 2012 2:50 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? I recently switched my Twitter avatar pic to a shot of me in my '70 2000, and ot a message from a follower in New Zealand asking if it was a Sunbeam Tiger. sed to having the Roadster mistaken for an MGB by automotive know-nothings, ut the Tiger deal was a first for meb& Gary McCormick From rksmith46 at hotmail.com Tue May 29 19:25:07 2012 From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 21:25:07 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? In-Reply-To: <8CF0C17AC38C0D3-13C-491D@Webmail-m117.sysops.aol.com> References: <1338317374.68331.YahooMailClassic@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <8CF0C17AC38C0D3-13C-491D@Webmail-m117.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: hi dave, i think i have to differ with you on the attractiveness of the tiger(or sunbeam alpine). i think it is much prettier, and better proportioned than the datsun roadster. the final word on this, has to be my wife jeanine, who said she LIKED the alpine. in 40 years of marriage, she has never liked any of the other old cars ive had, including the datsun 2000. just my opinion. bob smith,ohio 69 srl 311 74 260Z > > > > To: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > From: davesmbox at aol.com > Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 21:07:09 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? > > The tiger is actually not an attractive car unlike the roadster and MGB > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary McCormick > To: Datsun Roadster List > Sent: Tue, May 29, 2012 2:50 pm > Subject: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? > > > I recently switched my Twitter avatar pic to a shot of me in my '70 2000, and > ot a message from a follower in New Zealand asking if it was a Sunbeam Tiger. > sed to having the Roadster mistaken for an MGB by automotive know-nothings, > ut the Tiger deal was a first for meb& > Gary McCormick > an Jose, CA > 70 2000 SRL311-13291 > _______________________________________ > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http:/ From sumton at sbcglobal.net Tue May 29 19:45:45 2012 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (dave n) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 20:45:45 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? In-Reply-To: References: <1338317374.68331.YahooMailClassic@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <8CF0C17AC38C0D3-13C-491D@Webmail-m117.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <2254FE2B2DE549C08A66244643848521@ranteer.local> I bet if you brought home a ferrari she would like it . . . -----Original Message----- From: robert k. smith Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:25 PM To: roadster list Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? hi dave, i think i have to differ with you on the attractiveness of the tiger(or sunbeam alpine). i think it is much prettier, and better proportioned than the datsun roadster. the final word on this, has to be my wife jeanine, who said she LIKED the alpine. in 40 years of marriage, she has never liked any of the other old cars ive had, including the datsun 2000. just my opinion. bob smith,ohio 69 srl 311 74 260Z From aultgc at att.net Tue May 29 20:01:32 2012 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 19:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] distrubitor In-Reply-To: References: <7DE73FC1-50DF-4FF6-809F-79BA9B6A5E86@netscape.net> <1338313817.1934.YahooMailRC@web180207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1338343292.14124.YahooMailRC@web180209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Linda, Never heard of one breaking, but I suppose they do. I haven't worried about it -- they're not heavily loaded, nor do they move very much. Still, everything eventually fatigues... My recommendation: Don't bother unless you're taking the distributor apart for other reasons. If you have never dismantled your distributor to check and lubricate the weights under the breaker plate, you should do so. Can't tell you how many cars I have found with gummed up mechanical advance mechanisms. Replacing the springs at that time wouldn't be a bad idea, although I have never done so. Gary ________________________________ From: linda To: Gary and Cindy Ault Cc: Linda Jordan ; "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" Sent: Tue, May 29, 2012 8:16:00 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] distrubitor Hi Gary Just wondering about replacing the springs, rather than waiting for one to break. Anyone do that? Linda Sent from my iPod On May 29, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: Linda, > >Both Dean and Dann offer recurve kits which have the non-smog springs, cam and >weights. Others may as well. They may also have just the springs, but I >haven't checked. I don't know whether the emissions control configuration >springs are still available or not. If interested, I can look the part up the >part numbers. As Paul indicated, all you need is the 7.5 cam and springs. I >think Nissan lists different vacuum control units for pre-smog and smog >distributors, but I think the calibration was the same. Let me know if you want >the numbers. > >Gary > > ________________________________ From: Linda Jordan >To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Sent: Tue, May 29, 2012 10:50:56 AM >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] distrubitor > >Are the springs available or anyone know the sizes? I imagine they should be >replaced after awhile. > >Linda > >Sent from my iPod > >On May 28, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Joe Russo wrote: > >> Weights are the same, springs are different. 7.5 is the non-smog advance >cam. >> For that cam, one spring is real heavy wire and the other is a lighter >weight >> spring. The heavy spring goes on the cam side with the longer slot. The >> shorter loop of the heavy spring gets connected to the weight not to the >cam >> slot. >> >> Happy Memorial Day >> >> Joe >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On May 28, 2012, at 1:35 PM, Dana Scribner wrote: >> >>> This being Memorial Day I hope everyone has taken the time to thank those >> who >>> gave their lives so we are able to live ours as we do. I have been >having >> a >>> problem with the idle on my 1969 2000 SU carb no emission car. I can set >it >>> then go for a ride and when I stop at a light the idle keeps dropping off >> it >>> 100 or less or it stalls. At high idles it's fine. I gave up and took it >> "The >>> Guy" wit 40 plus years on SU knowledge. Long story short he thought is is >> a >>> distributor problem. I opened it up and there it was a broken spring >> sitting >>> at the bottom. So this leads me to my questions. On the timing lever plate >> it >>> is marked 7.5; I looked at my supply of parts and some are marked 17.5. >>> Why?Are the weights different on the 2 distributors? How do you tell them >>> apart?Are the springs different between the one marked 7.5 and the 17.5 >>> distributor? How do you tell them apart?Where the vacuum advance is >> attacked >>> to the housing I see the a 17.5 stamped in ink on the 17.5 marked timing >>> lever. Are the 7.5 ones not marked?is the vacuum advance different between >> the >>> 2? Dana S1969 2000 >>> ________________________________________ >>> >>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >> >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/jrusso07 at rochester.rr. >> com >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne >t >________________________________________ > >datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From stephen.holst at randrglobal.com Wed May 30 04:59:43 2012 From: stephen.holst at randrglobal.com (Stephen Holst) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 06:59:43 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? In-Reply-To: <2254FE2B2DE549C08A66244643848521@ranteer.local> Message-ID: Be careful the Tiger owners would be dismayed to be compared to an alpine. Tigers had a V8 (in an alpine body) and were quite speedy. My 2000 was not a match ofi them on a straight line when it was new. Sreve On 5/29/12 9:45 PM, "dave n" wrote: > I bet if you brought home a ferrari she would like it . . . > > -----Original Message----- > From: robert k. smith > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:25 PM > To: roadster list > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? > > hi dave, i think i have to differ with you on the attractiveness of the > tiger(or sunbeam alpine). i think it is much prettier, and better > proportioned than the datsun roadster. the final word on this, > has to be my wife jeanine, who said she LIKED the alpine. in > 40 years of marriage, she has never liked any of the other > old cars ive had, including the datsun 2000. just my opinion. > bob smith,ohio > 69 srl 311 > 74 260Z > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/stephen.holst at randrglob > al.com From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Wed May 30 06:06:30 2012 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (Paul Courson) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 08:06:30 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? In-Reply-To: References: <2254FE2B2DE549C08A66244643848521@ranteer.local> Message-ID: There's no accounting for style / taste, I suppose. But in my view, the Sunbeam's older body style (with the higher tail-fins) suggested to me a 1960 Mercury Comet. Something your great-Aunt would drive. And the front end of the Sunbeam looked like a Grouper, and the fish was in a bad mood at that. From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Wed May 30 08:00:55 2012 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 07:00:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1338386455.78348.YahooMailClassic@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I've also heard that there was a standard 500-mile maintenance for Tigers: Re-tighten every bolt in the car... ;^) They had what, the Ford 260 V-8 was it? Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Wed, 5/30/12, Stephen Holst wrote: From: Stephen Holst Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? To: "dave n" , "roadster list" Date: Wednesday, May 30, 2012, 3:59 AM Be careful the Tiger owners would be dismayed to be compared to an alpine. Tigers had a V8 (in an alpine body) and were quite speedy. My 2000 was not a match ofi them on a straight line when it was new. Sreve On 5/29/12 9:45 PM, "dave n" wrote: > I bet if you brought home a ferrari she would like it . . . > > -----Original Message----- > From: robert k. smith > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:25 PM > To: roadster list > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? > > hi dave, i think i have to differ with you on the attractiveness of the > tiger(or sunbeam alpine). i think it is much prettier, and better > proportioned than the datsun roadster. the final word on this, > has to be my wife jeanine, who said she LIKED the alpine. in > 40 years of marriage, she has never liked any of the other > old cars ive had, including the datsun 2000. just my opinion. > bob smith,ohio > 69 srl 311 > 74 260Z > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/stephen.holst at randrglo b > al.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net Wed May 30 08:23:59 2012 From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Prather) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 07:23:59 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? In-Reply-To: References: <2254FE2B2DE549C08A66244643848521@ranteer.local> Message-ID: You mentioned Grouper, I think they're more of a bottom dweller sucker fish! Sent from Ipad On May 30, 2012, at 5:06 AM, Paul Courson wrote: > There's no accounting for style / taste, I suppose. > > But in my view, the Sunbeam's older body style (with the higher > tail-fins) suggested to me a 1960 Mercury Comet. Something your > great-Aunt would drive. And the front end of the Sunbeam looked like a > Grouper, and the fish was in a bad mood at that. > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tomet9 at sbcglobal.net From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net Wed May 30 08:25:08 2012 From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Prather) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 07:25:08 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? In-Reply-To: <1338386455.78348.YahooMailClassic@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1338386455.78348.YahooMailClassic@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Tiger had a 8 and Alpine had a 4. Sent from Ipad On May 30, 2012, at 7:00 AM, Gary McCormick wrote: > I've also heard that there was a standard 500-mile maintenance for Tigers: > Re-tighten every bolt in the car... ;^) > > They had what, the Ford 260 V-8 was it? > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > > --- On Wed, 5/30/12, Stephen Holst wrote: > > From: Stephen Holst > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? > To: "dave n" , "roadster list" > > Date: Wednesday, May 30, 2012, 3:59 AM > > Be careful the Tiger owners would be dismayed to be compared to an alpine. > Tigers had a V8 (in an alpine body) and were quite speedy. My 2000 was not > a match ofi them on a straight line when it was new. > Sreve > > > On 5/29/12 9:45 PM, "dave n" wrote: > >> I bet if you brought home a ferrari she would like it . . . >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: robert k. smith >> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:25 PM >> To: roadster list >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? >> >> hi dave, i think i have to differ with you on the attractiveness of the >> tiger(or sunbeam alpine). i think it is much prettier, and better >> proportioned than the datsun roadster. the final word on this, >> has to be my wife jeanine, who said she LIKED the alpine. in >> 40 years of marriage, she has never liked any of the other >> old cars ive had, including the datsun 2000. just my opinion. >> bob smith,ohio >> 69 srl 311 >> 74 260Z >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/stephen.holst at randrglo > b >> al.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tomet9 at sbcglobal.net From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Wed May 30 09:46:49 2012 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 11:46:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? Message-ID: <6533d.6540e84a.3cf79ae9@aol.com> I have had my cars called, MG's, Sunbeams (and Tiger), Fiat, and assorted "other-side-of-the-pond" models. Unless someone has owned or known someone who has owned a Datsun, they never get it right. The joy of their surprise when they learn it's Japanese. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) / _www.ZRoad.org_ (http://www.zroad.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1967 SPL311-09144 In a message dated 5/29/2012 7:24:51 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, sumton at sbcglobal.net writes: I totally disagree. I think its very roadsterish and an easy mistake for a non car person. -----Original Message----- From: davesmbox at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:07 PM To: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net ; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? The tiger is actually not an attractive car unlike the roadster and MGB Dave -----Original Message----- From: Gary McCormick To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Tue, May 29, 2012 2:50 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? I recently switched my Twitter avatar pic to a shot of me in my '70 2000, and ot a message from a follower in New Zealand asking if it was a Sunbeam Tiger. sed to having the Roadster mistaken for an MGB by automotive know-nothings, ut the Tiger deal was a first for meb& Gary McCormick ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/barterdude at aol.com From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Wed May 30 09:53:41 2012 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 11:53:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Trying to source crank main bearings Message-ID: <6577b.641f0d6b.3cf79c85@aol.com> Trying to keep my numbers matching G motor for one of the Single Carb 1500 running. I have an option on a crank that has been turned .20 under on the main bearings and has sat for years and is somewhat rusted, so the shop thinks we may have to turn it another .10 under. Anyone have any sources for Crank Main Bearings that are .30 under for the 1500 (understand the 1600 three main is the same too)? Any help on sources would greatly be appreciated. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) / _www.ZRoad.org_ (http://www.zroad.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1967 SPL311-09144 From printner at att.net Wed May 30 10:35:01 2012 From: printner at att.net (Tim Waltz) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 10:35:01 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Trying to source crank main bearings In-Reply-To: <6577b.641f0d6b.3cf79c85@aol.com> References: <6577b.641f0d6b.3cf79c85@aol.com> Message-ID: <00f901cd3e82$29747120$7c5d5360$@att.net> Why not have them turn it to fit the bearings that are available: http://datsunparts.com/1171 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BARTERDUDE at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 9:54 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; wycroc at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Roadsters] Trying to source crank main bearings Trying to keep my numbers matching G motor for one of the Single Carb 1500 running. I have an option on a crank that has been turned .20 under on the main bearings and has sat for years and is somewhat rusted, so the shop thinks we may have to turn it another .10 under. Anyone have any sources for Crank Main Bearings that are .30 under for the 1500 (understand the 1600 three main is the same too)? Any help on sources would greatly be appreciated. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) / _www.ZRoad.org_ (http://www.zroad.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1967 SPL311-09144 From aultgc at att.net Wed May 30 11:22:47 2012 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 10:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? In-Reply-To: References: <2254FE2B2DE549C08A66244643848521@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <1338398567.44407.YahooMailRC@web180208.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> My dad bought a '60 or '61 Mercury Comet -- a concession to smaller, more efficient cars. What a POS. I remember putting the accelerator to the floor from a standing start and getting liesurely acceleration. He replaced it with a '63 Olds Super 88 in early '63. (394 CID, 4-barrel carburetor, 330 HP, ran like a scalded dog, 8-12 mpg @ ~$0.28/gallon). Now, if memory serves, Mercury brought out a little gem called the Comet Caliente in 1964 -- nice lines, big motor, four-speed manual, convertible. Wanted one of those, but Mother wouldn't go for it. Gary ________________________________ From: Paul Courson To: Stephen Holst Cc: roadster list Sent: Wed, May 30, 2012 7:06:44 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? There's no accounting for style / taste, I suppose. But in my view, the Sunbeam's older body style (with the higher tail-fins) suggested to me a 1960 Mercury Comet. Something your great-Aunt would drive. And the front end of the Sunbeam looked like a Grouper, and the fish was in a bad mood at that. ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From aultgc at att.net Wed May 30 11:27:20 2012 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 10:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? In-Reply-To: <1338386455.78348.YahooMailClassic@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1338386455.78348.YahooMailClassic@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1338398840.41707.YahooMailRC@web180216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Gary, I recall it was a Ford 260, also. Added lots of weight compared to the 4 in the Alpine. Ran great in a straight line, but, as I recall, had problems changing direction. Gary ________________________________ From: Gary McCormick To: dave n ; roadster list ; Stephen Holst Sent: Wed, May 30, 2012 9:06:23 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? I've also heard that there was a standard 500-mile maintenance for Tigers: Re-tighten every bolt in the car... ;^) They had what, the Ford 260 V-8 was it? Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Wed, 5/30/12, Stephen Holst wrote: From: Stephen Holst Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? To: "dave n" , "roadster list" Date: Wednesday, May 30, 2012, 3:59 AM Be careful the Tiger owners would be dismayed to be compared to an alpine. Tigers had a V8 (in an alpine body) and were quite speedy. My 2000 was not a match ofi them on a straight line when it was new. Sreve On 5/29/12 9:45 PM, "dave n" wrote: > I bet if you brought home a ferrari she would like it . . . > > -----Original Message----- > From: robert k. smith > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:25 PM > To: roadster list > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? > > hi dave, i think i have to differ with you on the attractiveness of the > tiger(or sunbeam alpine). i think it is much prettier, and better > proportioned than the datsun roadster. the final word on this, > has to be my wife jeanine, who said she LIKED the alpine. in > 40 years of marriage, she has never liked any of the other > old cars ive had, including the datsun 2000. just my opinion. > bob smith,ohio > 69 srl 311 > 74 260Z > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/stephen.holst at randrglo b > al.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From futofab at gsinet.net Wed May 30 11:49:15 2012 From: futofab at gsinet.net (David Patten) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 13:49:15 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? In-Reply-To: <1338398840.41707.YahooMailRC@web180216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1338386455.78348.YahooMailClassic@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1338398840.41707.YahooMailRC@web180216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The Tiger came with Ford V8's, most had a 260CI and later ones a 289CI. It was rumored that the Tiger would get a 318ci Mopar engine after Chyrsler bought out the Rootes Group, owner of Sunbeam, but the 318's size was too big. Ultimately the Chrysler buy out of Rootes killed the Tiger because of its Ford engine. On the Datsun side of things. While I was in high school a local kid put a 289 into a Datsun Roadster. It flew down the 1//4 mile. I gave thought to buying it, but that never panned out. -- Dave Patten, Owner FutoFab, LLC 199 Stark Hwy So Dunbarton, NH 03046 Website - www.FutoFab.com e-mail - dave at futofab.com On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > Gary, > > I recall it was a Ford 260, also. Added lots of weight compared to the > 4 in the > Alpine. Ran great in a straight line, but, as I recall, had > problems changing > direction. > > Gary > > > > ________________________________ > From: > Gary McCormick > To: dave n ; > roadster list > ; Stephen Holst > > Sent: Wed, May 30, 2012 9:06:23 AM > Subject: > Re: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? > > I've also heard that there was a standard > 500-mile maintenance for Tigers: > Re-tighten every bolt in the car... ;^) > > They > had what, the Ford 260 V-8 was it? > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > > --- On Wed, > 5/30/12, Stephen Holst wrote: > > From: Stephen > Holst > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? > To: "dave n" , "roadster list" > > Date: Wednesday, May 30, 2012, 3:59 AM > > Be > careful the Tiger owners would be dismayed to be compared to an alpine. > Tigers > had a V8 (in an alpine body) and were quite speedy. My 2000 was not > a match > ofi them on a straight line when it was new. > Sreve > > > On 5/29/12 9:45 PM, "dave > n" wrote: > > > I bet if you brought home a ferrari she > would like it . . . > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: robert k. smith > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:25 PM > > To: roadster list > > Subject: Re: > [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? > > > > hi dave, i think i have to differ with you on > the attractiveness of the > > tiger(or sunbeam alpine). i think it is much > prettier, and better > > proportioned than the datsun roadster. the final word > on this, > > has to be my wife jeanine, who said she LIKED the alpine. in > > 40 > years of marriage, she has never liked any of the other > > old cars ive had, > including the datsun 2000. just my opinion. > > > bob smith,ohio > > > 69 srl 311 > > 74 260Z > > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe: > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/stephen.holst at randrglo > b > > al.com > ________________________________________ > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/futofab at gsinet.net From yenko_stinger65 at yahoo.com Wed May 30 11:58:40 2012 From: yenko_stinger65 at yahoo.com (shepard richard) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 10:58:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? In-Reply-To: <1338398840.41707.YahooMailRC@web180216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1338386455.78348.YahooMailClassic@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1338398840.41707.YahooMailRC@web180216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1338400720.5683.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> There were two version of the Tiger the Mark One with a 260 and the Mark 2 With a 289 but 5 or so Mark Ones had the 289 and a buddy in college had one. Would out run most anything in Fort Wayne at the time As he used to say when asked if it was a 4 banger " lesson to the exhaust one says I'm four other say me TOO." As for the turning question that is what the load petal is for . I'd love to have one now but most had the bad habit of cracking the frame rails at the fire wall if used like it was made for. rich 68 1600 stock 68 1600 with KA ________________________________ From: Gary and Cindy Ault To: Gary McCormick ; dave n ; roadster list ; Stephen Holst Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? Gary, I recall it was a Ford 260, also. Added lots of weight compared to the 4 in the Alpine. Ran great in a straight line, but, as I recall, had problems changing direction. Gary ________________________________ From: Gary McCormick To: dave n ; roadster list ; Stephen Holst Sent: Wed, May 30, 2012 9:06:23 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? I've also heard that there was a standard 500-mile maintenance for Tigers: Re-tighten every bolt in the car... ;^) They had what, the Ford 260 V-8 was it? Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Wed, 5/30/12, Stephen Holst wrote: From: Stephen Holst Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? To: "dave n" , "roadster list" Date: Wednesday, May 30, 2012, 3:59 AM Be careful the Tiger owners would be dismayed to be compared to an alpine. Tigers had a V8 (in an alpine body) and were quite speedy. My 2000 was not a match ofi them on a straight line when it was new. Sreve On 5/29/12 9:45 PM, "dave n" wrote: > I bet if you brought home a ferrari she would like it . . . > > -----Original Message----- > From: robert k. smith > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:25 PM > To: roadster list > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? > > hi dave, i think i have to differ with you on the attractiveness of the > tiger(or sunbeam alpine). i think it is much prettier, and better > proportioned than the datsun roadster. the final word on this, > has to be my wife jeanine, who said she LIKED the alpine. in > 40 years of marriage, she has never liked any of the other > old cars ive had, including the datsun 2000. just my opinion. > bob smith,ohio > 69 srl 311 > 74 260Z > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/stephen.holst at randrglo b > al.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/yenko_stinger65 at yahoo. com From jsk977 at optonline.net Wed May 30 13:06:36 2012 From: jsk977 at optonline.net (Jerry Krakauer) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 15:06:36 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? In-Reply-To: References: <1338386455.78348.YahooMailClassic@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1338398840.41707.YahooMailRC@web180216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000a01cd3e97$55e44720$01acd560$@net> I believe that Chrysler tried to use their 273(same block as the 318, but was lighter and had physically smaller heads) but as Dave, said too big. Even the Ford small block was real tight, the right bank rear spark plug had to be changed from the passenger compartment via an under dash removable panel. In the end for both appearance and handling the older AC chassis(which in stock form used a number of different inline sixes) was a far better choice than the Alpine for the power of the 260/289. Jerry Krakauer SRL311 00099 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Patten Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:49 PM To: roadster list Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? The Tiger came with Ford V8's, most had a 260CI and later ones a 289CI. It was rumored that the Tiger would get a 318ci Mopar engine after Chyrsler bought out the Rootes Group, owner of Sunbeam, but the 318's size was too big. Ultimately the Chrysler buy out of Rootes killed the Tiger because of its Ford engine. On the Datsun side of things. While I was in high school a local kid put a 289 into a Datsun Roadster. It flew down the 1//4 mile. I gave thought to buying it, but that never panned out. -- Dave Patten, Owner FutoFab, LLC 199 Stark Hwy So Dunbarton, NH 03046 From gsglasgow at comcast.net Wed May 30 14:09:25 2012 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 13:09:25 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? In-Reply-To: <000a01cd3e97$55e44720$01acd560$@net> References: <1338386455.78348.YahooMailClassic@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1338398840.41707.YahooMailRC@web180216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <000a01cd3e97$55e44720$01acd560$@net> Message-ID: <002301cd3ea0$1d35d890$57a189b0$@net> I heard a great story (could be apocryphal) about Rootes' first look at the Tiger. Carroll Shelby had built the first prototype and it was sent to England for evaluation. Lord Rootes (who was fairly elderly at the time) looked the car over and decided to go for a ride. His son offered to drive, but Lord Rootes said, no, he'd drive it himself. This made the engineers pretty nervous. So off went Lord Rootes with his son, and a Rover sedan was sent out as a chase car in case anything broke. The Rover turned back within a mile because they couldn't keep up. A few minutes later they heard this small-block Ford V8 come screaming down the road. The Tiger went flying past the factory gate with Lord Rootes' hair streaming in the wind. He came back, parked the car in the courtyard and announced, "We'll build it!" Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jerry Krakauer Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 12:07 PM To: 'roadster list' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? I believe that Chrysler tried to use their 273(same block as the 318, but was lighter and had physically smaller heads) but as Dave, said too big. Even the Ford small block was real tight, the right bank rear spark plug had to be changed from the passenger compartment via an under dash removable panel. In the end for both appearance and handling the older AC chassis(which in stock form used a number of different inline sixes) was a far better choice than the Alpine for the power of the 260/289. Jerry Krakauer SRL311 00099 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Patten Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:49 PM To: roadster list Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? The Tiger came with Ford V8's, most had a 260CI and later ones a 289CI. It was rumored that the Tiger would get a 318ci Mopar engine after Chyrsler bought out the Rootes Group, owner of Sunbeam, but the 318's size was too big. Ultimately the Chrysler buy out of Rootes killed the Tiger because of its Ford engine. On the Datsun side of things. While I was in high school a local kid put a 289 into a Datsun Roadster. It flew down the 1//4 mile. I gave thought to buying it, but that never panned out. -- Dave Patten, Owner FutoFab, LLC 199 Stark Hwy So Dunbarton, NH 03046 ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gsglasgow at comcast.net From gsglasgow at comcast.net Wed May 30 14:14:26 2012 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 13:14:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? In-Reply-To: <1338398840.41707.YahooMailRC@web180216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1338386455.78348.YahooMailClassic@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1338398840.41707.YahooMailRC@web180216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002a01cd3ea0$d0a86a00$71f93e00$@net> Actually it could be made to handle acceptably well, but it did tend towards understeer. When I was autocrossing my roadster in the late 1970's in Improved B, there were typically four cars battling it out in Improved A: two Corvettes, a Lotus Elan and a Sunbeam Tiger. A lot of times they were all within a half-second of each other. It was fun to watch. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary and Cindy Ault Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 10:27 AM To: Gary McCormick; dave n; roadster list; Stephen Holst Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? Gary, I recall it was a Ford 260, also. Added lots of weight compared to the 4 in the Alpine. Ran great in a straight line, but, as I recall, had problems changing direction. Gary ________________________________ From: Gary McCormick To: dave n ; roadster list ; Stephen Holst Sent: Wed, May 30, 2012 9:06:23 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? I've also heard that there was a standard 500-mile maintenance for Tigers: Re-tighten every bolt in the car... ;^) They had what, the Ford 260 V-8 was it? Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Wed, 5/30/12, Stephen Holst wrote: From: Stephen Holst Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? To: "dave n" , "roadster list" Date: Wednesday, May 30, 2012, 3:59 AM Be careful the Tiger owners would be dismayed to be compared to an alpine. Tigers had a V8 (in an alpine body) and were quite speedy. My 2000 was not a match ofi them on a straight line when it was new. Sreve On 5/29/12 9:45 PM, "dave n" wrote: > I bet if you brought home a ferrari she would like it . . . > > -----Original Message----- > From: robert k. smith > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:25 PM > To: roadster list > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? > > hi dave, i think i have to differ with you on the attractiveness of the > tiger(or sunbeam alpine). i think it is much prettier, and better > proportioned than the datsun roadster. the final word on this, > has to be my wife jeanine, who said she LIKED the alpine. in > 40 years of marriage, she has never liked any of the other > old cars ive had, including the datsun 2000. just my opinion. > bob smith,ohio > 69 srl 311 > 74 260Z > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/stephen.holst at randrgl o b > al.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gsglasgow at comcast.net From mark at bradakis.com Wed May 30 14:19:48 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 14:19:48 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Is it a Tiger? In-Reply-To: <002301cd3ea0$1d35d890$57a189b0$@net> References: <1338386455.78348.YahooMailClassic@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1338398840.41707.YahooMailRC@web180216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <000a01cd3e97$55e44720$01acd560$@net> <002301cd3ea0$1d35d890$57a189b0$@net> Message-ID: <4FC680E4.7020604@bradakis.com> More talk about Tigers lately here than on tigers at autox.team.net! mjb. From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com Thu May 31 09:15:36 2012 From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 11:15:36 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster parts Message-ID: I lost the site that gives new part numbers for roadster stuff. Help! Looking for rear brake shoes for my '69 1600. Thanks, Paul From ljordan704 at netscape.net Thu May 31 09:26:09 2012 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda Jordan) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 08:26:09 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster parts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 311.org then Tech section, Parts, online parts manual. Linda Sent from my iPod On May 31, 2012, at 8:15 AM, Paul Kort wrote: > I lost the site that gives new part numbers for roadster stuff. Help! > > Looking for rear brake shoes for my '69 1600. > > Thanks, > Paul > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From tputland at charter.net Thu May 31 09:40:30 2012 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 11:40:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster parts Message-ID: <31cb73ec.2922c6.137a38e2532.Webtop.45@charter.net> That's funny. I got Linda's reply to Paul before I got Paul's initial post! tim On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Paul Kort wrote: > I lost the site that gives new part numbers for roadster stuff. Help! > > Looking for rear brake shoes for my '69 1600. > > Thanks, > Paul > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From ljordan704 at netscape.net Thu May 31 10:07:01 2012 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 09:07:01 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster parts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <65EFE88D-7EC7-4222-BE52-F2CC11462C12@netscape.net> Tech section has the Parts Interchange section too which is nice and shows that 510 shoes fit the Roadster. Be sure to get the right length. That is what I am using Linda Sent from my iPod On May 31, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Paul Kort wrote: > Linda, I was at 311.org, but for some reason, I didn't look at the tech section. I'm getting too old! > > Thanks, > Paul > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Linda Jordan wrote: > 311.org then Tech section, Parts, online parts manual. > > Linda > > Sent from my iPod > > On May 31, 2012, at 8:15 AM, Paul Kort wrote: > > > I lost the site that gives new part numbers for roadster stuff. Help! > > > > Looking for rear brake shoes for my '69 1600. > > > > Thanks, > > Paul > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From jh.bahn at verizon.net Thu May 31 12:16:21 2012 From: jh.bahn at verizon.net (jh.bahn at verizon.net) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 14:16:21 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster parts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16A3F015E005462A926B9BC20B259883@BahnTHINK> I believe this is reasonable current info. For hard driving the NISMO Feodo green stuff is really good. Brake Shoes Rear Nissan 1968-73 PL 510 Nissan 1977-79 200SX; 1984 200SX 1977-78 280Z; 77-80 810 may fit NISMO 44060-14600 Leading shoe (Ferodo AM4 "green stuff") NISMO 44070-14600 Trailing " " " Porterfield 359 R-4 compound Carbotech CTS359-913 Hawk blue compound Datsun 510 DBA E1339 PL 510 JH Bahn -----Original Message----- From: Paul Kort Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:15 AM To: Roadster Stuff Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster parts I lost the site that gives new part numbers for roadster stuff. Help! Looking for rear brake shoes for my '69 1600. Thanks, Paul ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/vze3bsfc at verizon.net From RWM at RWMann.com Thu May 31 13:47:07 2012 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 15:47:07 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster parts In-Reply-To: <16A3F015E005462A926B9BC20B259883@BahnTHINK> References: <16A3F015E005462A926B9BC20B259883@BahnTHINK> Message-ID: <4FC7CABB.20208@RWMann.com> I can vouch for the Porterfield R-4S... On 5/31/2012 2:16 PM, jh.bahn at verizon.net wrote: > I believe this is reasonable current info. For hard driving the NISMO > Feodo green stuff is really good. > > Brake Shoes Rear > Nissan 1968-73 PL 510 > Nissan 1977-79 200SX; 1984 > 200SX 1977-78 280Z; 77-80 810 may fit > NISMO 44060-14600 Leading shoe (Ferodo AM4 "green stuff") > NISMO 44070-14600 Trailing " " " > Porterfield 359 R-4 compound > Carbotech CTS359-913 Hawk blue compound Datsun 510 > DBA E1339 PL 510 > > JH Bahn > > -----Original Message----- From: Paul Kort > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:15 AM > To: Roadster Stuff > Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster parts > > I lost the site that gives new part numbers for roadster stuff. Help! > > Looking for rear brake shoes for my '69 1600. > > Thanks, > Paul From geegc at aol.com Thu May 31 23:07:33 2012 From: geegc at aol.com (geegc at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 05:07:33 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Victor Fun Run this Saturday. 9:00 AM Message-ID: <1679425944-1338527200-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-157476370-@b5.c2.bise6.blackberry> I'll be there w my 1600. Gary Cohen ------Original Message------ From: Linda Jordan To: geegc at aol Cc: Tom Prather Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Victor Fun Run Sent: May 27, 2012 3:33 PM Oops http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=16447 Linda Sent from my iPod On May 27, 2012, at 8:53 AM, geegc at aol.com wrote: > Is it saturday, which I can do, or sunday, which I cannot? > > Gary Cohen > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Prather > Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 08:12:01 > To: Linda Jordan > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Victor Fun Run > > Linda, That's a great idea! I'm in > > Sent from Ipad > > On May 27, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Linda Jordan wrote: > >> I think Victor needs his picture taken--the Rock Store and Snake to Malibu. >> >> Linda >> >> Sent from my iPod >> >> On May 27, 2012, at 12:30 AM, Tom PRATHER wrote: >> >>> Hey Ron, Newcombs ranch, Mt Wilson? Just making suggestions, >>> ________________________________________ >>> >>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne > t > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/geegc at aol.com > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile