From etroxel at gmail.com  Sun Dec  2 18:00:03 2012
From: etroxel at gmail.com (Evan Troxel)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 17:00:03 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] bolt kits
Message-ID: <375AAE97-5012-4551-91AF-D42D5C45CBFF@gmail.com>

Hi all,

I'm getting the car painted soon and remember a bolt kit that was being
offered that covered most of the bolts for body panels, etc. Mine is a '69.
Does anyone still offer this? I didn't find anything on the Forum and the
archive search wasn't working.

Thanks!

From aultgc at att.net  Sun Dec  2 18:47:42 2012
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 19:47:42 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] bolt kits
References: <375AAE97-5012-4551-91AF-D42D5C45CBFF@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CE7B24AEB1964B56B07DBC005384D22D@gaxp1>

Evan,

Try the eBay store of "charger440rt", or contact him through eBay

Gary
.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Evan Troxel" <etroxel at gmail.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 7:00 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] bolt kits


> Hi all,
>
> I'm getting the car painted soon and remember a bolt kit that was being
> offered that covered most of the bolts for body panels, etc. Mine is a 
> '69.
> Does anyone still offer this? I didn't find anything on the Forum and the
> archive search wasn't working.
>
> Thanks!
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>
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From alex at thewajs.org  Thu Dec  6 05:33:57 2012
From: alex at thewajs.org (Alexander Wajsfelner)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 07:33:57 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 4 wheeling roadster
Message-ID: <B2F97D72-FDEF-48D8-B2AA-40D5DBD5865B@thewajs.org>

Just in case you need a winter roadster.

http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/3427089431.html

Alex

From hrhaslett at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  6 13:23:38 2012
From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 12:23:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 4 wheeling roadster
In-Reply-To: <B2F97D72-FDEF-48D8-B2AA-40D5DBD5865B@thewajs.org>
References: <B2F97D72-FDEF-48D8-B2AA-40D5DBD5865B@thewajs.org>
Message-ID: <1354825418.30600.YahooMailNeo@web162002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

That's appaling



________________________________
 From: Alexander Wajsfelner <alex at thewajs.org>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net 
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:33 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] 4 wheeling roadster
 
Just in case you need a winter roadster.

http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/3427089431.html

Alex
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From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec  6 13:33:20 2012
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 12:33:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 4 wheeling roadster
In-Reply-To: <1354825418.30600.YahooMailNeo@web162002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1354826000.39507.YahooMailClassic@web181406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Better that than to have the bodywork scrapped. It can always be pulled and
used to rehabilitate an actual Roadsterb&

--- On Thu, 12/6/12, Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 4 wheeling roadster
To: "Alexander Wajsfelner" <alex at thewajs.org>,
"datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, December 6, 2012, 12:23 PM

That's appaling



________________________________
 From: Alexander Wajsfelner <alex at thewajs.org>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:33 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] 4 wheeling roadster

Just in case you need a winter roadster.

http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/3427089431.html

Alex
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From RWM at RWMann.com  Thu Dec  6 13:42:27 2012
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:42:27 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 4 wheeling roadster
In-Reply-To: <1354826000.39507.YahooMailClassic@web181406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1354826000.39507.YahooMailClassic@web181406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <50C10333.7070100@RWMann.com>

I suppose, resto'ing a George Barris/Hot Wheels roadster...

But also agreeing that in its present state, "Ouch".


On 12/6/2012 3:33 PM, Gary McCormick wrote:
> Better that than to have the bodywork scrapped. It can always be pulled and
> used to rehabilitate an actual Roadsterb&
>
> --- On Thu, 12/6/12, Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 4 wheeling roadster
> To: "Alexander Wajsfelner" <alex at thewajs.org>,
> "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Date: Thursday, December 6, 2012, 12:23 PM
>
> That's appaling
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>   From: Alexander Wajsfelner <alex at thewajs.org>
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:33 AM
> Subject: [Roadsters] 4 wheeling roadster
>
> Just in case you need a winter roadster.
>
> http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/3427089431.html
>
> Alex

From davidbentz at gmail.com  Thu Dec  6 13:46:34 2012
From: davidbentz at gmail.com (David Bentz)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 15:46:34 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 4 wheeling roadster
In-Reply-To: <50C10333.7070100@RWMann.com>
References: <1354826000.39507.YahooMailClassic@web181406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<50C10333.7070100@RWMann.com>
Message-ID: <CALO7pZqCViN9Q4YO=XD7207Uu734m+LGgEqKfoqgVnsG05qMdg@mail.gmail.com>

come on guys. go easy...

someone probably took that to the prom and though they were royalty...

Dave




On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 3:42 PM, RWM <RWM at rwmann.com> wrote:

> I suppose, resto'ing a George Barris/Hot Wheels roadster...
>
> But also agreeing that in its present state, "Ouch".
>
>
> On 12/6/2012 3:33 PM, Gary McCormick wrote:
>
>> Better that than to have the bodywork scrapped. It can always be pulled
>> and
>> used to rehabilitate an actual Roadsterb&
>>
>> --- On Thu, 12/6/12, Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 4 wheeling roadster
>> To: "Alexander Wajsfelner" <alex at thewajs.org>,
>> "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>" <
>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>>
>> Date: Thursday, December 6, 2012, 12:23 PM
>>
>> That's appaling
>>
>>
>>
>> ______________________________**__
>>   From: Alexander Wajsfelner <alex at thewajs.org>
>> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:33 AM
>> Subject: [Roadsters] 4 wheeling roadster
>>
>> Just in case you need a winter roadster.
>>
>> http://providence.craigslist.**org/cto/3427089431.html<http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/3427089431.html>
>>
>> Alex
>>
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From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec  6 14:02:54 2012
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 13:02:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 4 wheeling roadster
In-Reply-To: <1354825418.30600.YahooMailNeo@web162002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1354827774.84033.YahooMailClassic@web181502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

first of all, i too am appalled.
 
however, let's think for a minute.  where do you draw the line?  gary boone
dizzy?  engine swap?  chassis swap?
 
just playing devil's advocate here for a second, before you say "this is
right" and "that is wrong"
 
 

From RWM at RWMann.com  Thu Dec  6 14:15:05 2012
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 16:15:05 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 4 wheeling roadster
In-Reply-To: <1354827774.84033.YahooMailClassic@web181502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1354827774.84033.YahooMailClassic@web181502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <50C10AD9.8090307@RWMann.com>

That's a legit question.

In the range of 100 point bone stock original to BRE/Boone/D-Prod/street 
racer to Foose/Coddington resto-mod to Barris wildcard... this one is 
off the charts.

JMHO, YMMV, etc.


On 12/6/2012 4:02 PM, oliver wrote:
> first of all, i too am appalled.
>   
> however, let's think for a minute.  where do you draw the line?  gary boone
> dizzy?  engine swap?  chassis swap?
>   
> just playing devil's advocate here for a second, before you say "this is
> right" and "that is wrong"

From divehatteras at aol.com  Thu Dec  6 15:52:37 2012
From: divehatteras at aol.com (Dave Sommers)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 17:52:37 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 4 wheeling roadster
In-Reply-To: <50C10AD9.8090307@RWMann.com>
References: <1354827774.84033.YahooMailClassic@web181502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<50C10AD9.8090307@RWMann.com>
Message-ID: <333EDFE4-74F0-444F-8E0A-EBCD23BDE6C2@aol.com>

Well I am thinking about buying it just so that I can put the roadster body
out of it's misery.  It really is a bizarre application that dr Frankenstein
might even find appalling.

However, there are lots of strange conversions out in the car world and a butt
for every seat in them.  On second thought I could use this in hatteras to go
beach fishing if I just put some rod mounts and a cooler on the front
bumper...

Dave Sommers
Dive Hatteras llc
703-517-3724 boat phone
703-818-1850


On Dec 6, 2012, at 4:15 PM, RWM <RWM at RWMann.com> wrote:

> That's a legit question.
>
> In the range of 100 point bone stock original to BRE/Boone/D-Prod/street
racer to Foose/Coddington resto-mod to Barris wildcard... this one is off the
charts.
>
> JMHO, YMMV, etc.
>
>
> On 12/6/2012 4:02 PM, oliver wrote:
>> first of all, i too am appalled.
>>  however, let's think for a minute.  where do you draw the line?  gary
boone
>> dizzy?  engine swap?  chassis swap?
>>  just playing devil's advocate here for a second, before you say "this is
>> right" and "that is wrong"
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From jake7140 at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  6 19:48:10 2012
From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 18:48:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-Jeep
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1354820401.17432.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.5.1354820401.17432.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <1354848490.98094.YahooMailNeo@web141206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

TIM P.!  You could get down to one car to satisfy both your lusts.

 
Steve
Steve's racing web site
www.NoNameRacing.com
Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping
Society
www.elrss.com
          

________________________________

Message: 1
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 07:33:57 -0500
From: Alexander Wajsfelner
<alex at thewajs.org>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] 4
wheeling roadster
Message-ID:
<B2F97D72-FDEF-48D8-B2AA-40D5DBD5865B at thewajs.org>
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=us-ascii

Just in case you need a winter roadster.
http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/3427089431.html

Alex
************************************************

From mark at bradakis.com  Thu Dec  6 20:02:01 2012
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 20:02:01 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-Jeep
In-Reply-To: <1354848490.98094.YahooMailNeo@web141206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.5.1354820401.17432.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
	<1354848490.98094.YahooMailNeo@web141206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <50C15C29.5080508@bradakis.com>

There's a similar type vehicle roaming the streets of Salt Lake City - a 
bright orange
VW Karmann Ghia.

Not for me.

mjb.

From fergus06 at socal.rr.com  Thu Dec  6 21:19:17 2012
From: fergus06 at socal.rr.com (Fergus O'Farrell)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 20:19:17 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] rock the cars-bah!
Message-ID: <C96443865F904C1A91A95B4B5BC14002@CarmelPC>

<<  if I just put some rod mounts and a cooler on the front bumper...  >>
I don't think we are standing on formality, so you could add most anything you
want to the front and rear bumper, and we'd be delighted by the result.
(a couple o'spare tires making it look like a tugboat wouldn't look outta
place at this point)

That is the joy or roadsters and roadster folk, we welcome all comers.

Other than the first corner at 35+, I'd just have to add a louder stereo, some
serious driving music, and relax and enjoy the ride.(and a helmet to keep my
noggin from glancing off that rollbar)

You go Garth!

FergusO

From jake7140 at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  6 22:25:19 2012
From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 21:25:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 4 wheeling roadster
In-Reply-To: <mailman.535.1354848517.1937.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.535.1354848517.1937.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <1354857919.28134.YahooMailNeo@web141206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

The roadster community should be happy.  The guy thought enough of a roadster
(no matter what shape) to display it on his creation (no matter how bizarre
some might think it is).  Someone uninformed might inquire as to what it is,
and then become a fan, buy one, maybe even salvage one from a similar or worse
fate, and have some fun.  Assuming it runs/ran, think of the things you could
do (besides kill yourself) in that vehicle that you couldn't do in a regular
roadster!  Better than junkin it.

 
Steve

Steve's racing web site
www.NoNameRacing.com
Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society
www.elrss.com
    
     

________________________________
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 12:33:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Gary McCormick
<gkmcc at sbcglobal.net>
To: Alexander Wajsfelner <alex at thewajs.org>,
   
"datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>,
    Roy
Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 4 wheeling roadster
Message-ID:
   
<1354826000.39507.YahooMailClassic at web181406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Content-Type:
text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Better that than to have the bodywork
scrapped. It can always be pulled and
used to rehabilitate an actual
Roadsterb&

From tputland at charter.net  Fri Dec  7 05:33:43 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 07:33:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-Jeep
Message-ID: <5c174f64.223575.13b755b69a5.Webtop.45@charter.net>

I wasn't going to chime it but since I have been tagged I guess I 
will.....

this guy has been trying to sell this thing for a couple or more years 
now hasn't he? Doesn't anyone else remember this being for sale in the 
past?

As for both my "lusts"....I am into Full Size Jeeps (hence my 71 J4600 
Gladiator) and Datsuns, not Small Size Jeeps! lol

tim


On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Steve Jacobson wrote:

> TIM P.!  You could get down to one car to satisfy both your lusts.
>
>  Steve
> Steve's racing web site
> www.NoNameRacing.com
> Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping
> Society
> www.elrss.com
>
> ________________________________
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 07:33:57 -0500
> From: Alexander Wajsfelner
> <alex at thewajs.org>
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] 4
> wheeling roadster
> Message-ID:
> <B2F97D72-FDEF-48D8-B2AA-40D5DBD5865B at thewajs.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset=us-ascii
>
> Just in case you need a winter roadster.
> http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/3427089431.html
>
> Alex
> ************************************************
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From poontang188 at hotmail.com  Fri Dec  7 11:32:23 2012
From: poontang188 at hotmail.com (Scott Sheeler)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 13:32:23 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Holiday Gift Ideas
Message-ID: <BAY146-W36EDD88F85653CFFC62723FC440@phx.gbl>

The Datsun Roadster Book and our reprint Owner's Manuals make great gifts at
Christmas (or anytime).  Drop a hint or visit our website.

Thanks to all the roadster owner's who have supported us in 2012!

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Scott and Pam Sheeler
http://thedatsunroadsterbook.com/

From futofab at gsinet.net  Fri Dec  7 13:31:30 2012
From: futofab at gsinet.net (David Patten)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 15:31:30 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Holiday Gift Ideas
In-Reply-To: <BAY146-W36EDD88F85653CFFC62723FC440@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY146-W36EDD88F85653CFFC62723FC440@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAC08eSMgoZuXQauxLhb2c6FpTs4q2+ptOx_an8sG01c6JS01AQ@mail.gmail.com>

Another Christmas idea is a Datsun Roadster 50th Anniversary Grill Badge.

These are available on eBay. Link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Datsun-Fairlady-Roadster-50th-Anniversary-Grill-Badge-1962-2012-/170910078223?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27cb08d50f&vxp=mtr

Also available from www.FutoFab.com <http://www.futofab.com/> but only by
email request to Dave at FutoFab.com

Only 7 left! Once these are gone there will be no more.

I want to thank all those who's cars proudly wear one. Only 150 were made
so they are somewhat rare.

-- 
Dave Patten, Owner

FutoFab, LLC
199 Stark Hwy So
Dunbarton, NH 03046

Website - www.FutoFab.com <http://www.futofab.com/>
e-mail - dave at futofab.com





On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Scott Sheeler <poontang188 at hotmail.com>wrote:

> The Datsun Roadster Book and our reprint Owner's Manuals make great gifts
> at
> Christmas (or anytime).  Drop a hint or visit our website.
>
> Thanks to all the roadster owner's who have supported us in 2012!
>
> Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
>
> Scott and Pam Sheeler
> http://thedatsunroadsterbook.com/
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From RWM at RWMann.com  Fri Dec  7 13:36:08 2012
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 15:36:08 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Holiday Gift Ideas
In-Reply-To: <CAC08eSMgoZuXQauxLhb2c6FpTs4q2+ptOx_an8sG01c6JS01AQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY146-W36EDD88F85653CFFC62723FC440@phx.gbl>
	<CAC08eSMgoZuXQauxLhb2c6FpTs4q2+ptOx_an8sG01c6JS01AQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50C25338.7050105@RWMann.com>

Highly Recommended!


On 12/7/2012 3:31 PM, David Patten wrote:
> Another Christmas idea is a Datsun Roadster 50th Anniversary Grill Badge.
>
> These are available on eBay. Link:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Datsun-Fairlady-Roadster-50th-Anniversary-Grill-Badge-1962-2012-/170910078223?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27cb08d50f&vxp=mtr
>
> Also available from www.FutoFab.com <http://www.futofab.com/> but only by
> email request to Dave at FutoFab.com
>
> Only 7 left! Once these are gone there will be no more.
>
> I want to thank all those who's cars proudly wear one. Only 150 were made
> so they are somewhat rare.
>

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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Fri Dec  7 13:59:32 2012
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 12:59:32 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Holiday Gift Ideas
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Or how about some nice ball joints from Rareparts.com??

Linda

Sent from my iPod

On Dec 7, 2012, at 12:31 PM, David Patten <futofab at gsinet.net> wrote:

> Another Christmas idea is a Datsun Roadster 50th Anniversary Grill Badge.
>
> These are available on eBay. Link:
>
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Datsun-Fairlady-Roadster-50th-Anniversary-Grill-Badge
-1962-2012-/170910078223?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27cb0
8d50f&vxp=mtr
>
> Also available from www.FutoFab.com <http://www.futofab.com/> but only by
> email request to Dave at FutoFab.com
>
> Only 7 left! Once these are gone there will be no more.
>
> I want to thank all those who's cars proudly wear one. Only 150 were made
> so they are somewhat rare.
>
> --
> Dave Patten, Owner
>
> FutoFab, LLC
> 199 Stark Hwy So
> Dunbarton, NH 03046
>
> Website - www.FutoFab.com <http://www.futofab.com/>
> e-mail - dave at futofab.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Scott Sheeler
<poontang188 at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>> The Datsun Roadster Book and our reprint Owner's Manuals make great gifts
>> at
>> Christmas (or anytime).  Drop a hint or visit our website.
>>
>> Thanks to all the roadster owner's who have supported us in 2012!
>>
>> Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
>>
>> Scott and Pam Sheeler
>> http://thedatsunroadsterbook.com/
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From ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com  Fri Dec  7 14:08:45 2012
From: ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com (Stan Wilkins)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:08:45 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Holiday Gift Ideas
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A great gift for me would be if you all got together and bought me a 
running, drivable roadster; the project behind the fence is starting to 
look like a lost cause.  I paid $800.00 for the car but it needs 
everything; upholstery, U20 rebuilt, a bit of body work, chrome, 
weatherstripping, bows and canvas for the top, the list goes on.  I look 
at how much this will cost to put together and then look at roadsters 
for sale, and I know it will take more money to put mine together than I 
could buy a running example for.  Not a show car but at least a runner.  
So I suggest a "Buy Stan a Roadster" fund; I'll contribute the first $100.

Stan, just dreaming....

On 12/7/2012 1:31 PM, David Patten wrote:
> Another Christmas idea is a Datsun Roadster 50th Anniversary Grill Badge.
>
> These are available on eBay. Link:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Datsun-Fairlady-Roadster-50th-Anniversary-Grill-Badge-1962-2012-/170910078223?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27cb08d50f&vxp=mtr
>
> Also available from www.FutoFab.com <http://www.futofab.com/> but only by
> email request to Dave at FutoFab.com
>
> Only 7 left! Once these are gone there will be no more.
>
> I want to thank all those who's cars proudly wear one. Only 150 were made
> so they are somewhat rare.

From cour.jpeg at gmail.com  Fri Dec  7 14:16:39 2012
From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (Paul Courson)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:16:39 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Holiday Gift Ideas
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Stan here's something worse : Wishing we had more time available to drive
and enjoy a complete,  running,  good looking 311.

Best of happiness and good health to everyone on here...

Paul & Pam
Annapolis

From mark at bradakis.com  Fri Dec  7 14:29:20 2012
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:29:20 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Holiday Gift Ideas
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 > So I suggest a "Buy Stan a Roadster" fund; I'll contribute the first 
$100.
 > Stan, just dreaming....

I've tried that over the years trying to get list subscribers to provide 
a nice,
driveable Triumph for me.  Never seems to work out.

I will say, however, that folks always come through during the Team.Net 
fund drives
to help cover the bills!

mjb.

From maltamayor at windstream.net  Fri Dec  7 15:02:06 2012
From: maltamayor at windstream.net (Charles Vanderburg)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:02:06 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Info: Replace gasket between head and engine block.
 What, how, major? Not a job for old fart?
Message-ID: <004d01cdd4c6$7f772420$6d01a8c0@charles524923>

Nice little SR311.  While complete update with new parts, found leak in gasket
tween head and block at 2500-3000 rpm plus.  Anyone knows what is involved?
Big time?  Major?
No leak at idle  .Sounds like big job!  If interest, reply or call
903-277-8486,  10-4 CST.

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Fri Dec  7 15:09:48 2012
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:09:48 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Holiday Gift Ideas
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Stan
Just stick a 1600 in the car til you get the U20 built

Linda

Sent from my iPod

On Dec 7, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Stan Wilkins <ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> A great gift for me would be if you all got together and bought me a
> running, drivable roadster; the project behind the fence is starting to
> look like a lost cause.  I paid $800.00 for the car but it needs
> everything; upholstery, U20 rebuilt, a bit of body work, chrome,
> weatherstripping, bows and canvas for the top, the list goes on.  I look
> at how much this will cost to put together and then look at roadsters
> for sale, and I know it will take more money to put mine together than I
> could buy a running example for.  Not a show car but at least a runner.
> So I suggest a "Buy Stan a Roadster" fund; I'll contribute the first $100.
>
> Stan, just dreaming....
>
> On 12/7/2012 1:31 PM, David Patten wrote:
>> Another Christmas idea is a Datsun Roadster 50th Anniversary Grill Badge.
>>
>> These are available on eBay. Link:
>>
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Datsun-Fairlady-Roadster-50th-Anniversary-Grill-Badge
-1962-2012-/170910078223?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27cb0
8d50f&vxp=mtr
>>
>> Also available from www.FutoFab.com <http://www.futofab.com/> but only by
>> email request to Dave at FutoFab.com
>>
>> Only 7 left! Once these are gone there will be no more.
>>
>> I want to thank all those who's cars proudly wear one. Only 150 were made
>> so they are somewhat rare.
> ________________________________________
>
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>
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From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Fri Dec  7 15:31:42 2012
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:31:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Holiday Gift Ideas
In-Reply-To: <E5928AB7-5B72-4B7E-BFFE-958768BACE95@netscape.net>
Message-ID: <1354919502.14060.YahooMailClassic@web181404.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

"Just stick a 1600 in the car til you get the U20 built"b& and then when
someone asks you to pop the hood, you go all sheepish like the guy at Laguna
Seca years ago who brought his Boss 351 to the Mustang Corral -- but it had a
351 Cleveland in itb&

--- On Fri, 12/7/12, Linda J <ljordan704 at netscape.net> wrote:

From: Linda J <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Holiday Gift Ideas
To: "Stan Wilkins" <ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com>
Cc: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, December 7, 2012, 2:09 PM

Stan
Just stick a 1600 in the car til you get the U20 built

Linda

Sent from my iPod

On Dec 7, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Stan Wilkins <ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> A great gift for me would be if you all got together and bought me a
> running, drivable roadster; the project behind the fence is starting to
> look like a lost cause.B  I paid $800.00 for the car but it needs
> everything; upholstery, U20 rebuilt, a bit of body work, chrome,
> weatherstripping, bows and canvas for the top, the list goes on.B  I look
> at how much this will cost to put together and then look at roadsters
> for sale, and I know it will take more money to put mine together than I
> could buy a running example for.B  Not a show car but at least a runner.
> So I suggest a "Buy Stan a Roadster" fund; I'll contribute the first $100.
>
> Stan, just dreaming....
>
> On 12/7/2012 1:31 PM, David Patten wrote:
>> Another Christmas idea is a Datsun Roadster 50th Anniversary Grill Badge.
>>
>> These are available on eBay. Link:
>>
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Datsun-Fairlady-Roadster-50th-Anniversary-Grill-Badge
-1962-2012-/170910078223?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27cb0
8d50f&vxp=mtr
>>
>> Also available from www.FutoFab.com <http://www.futofab.com/> but only by
>> email request to Dave at FutoFab.com
>>
>> Only 7 left! Once these are gone there will be no more.
>>
>> I want to thank all those who's cars proudly wear one. Only 150 were made
>> so they are somewhat rare.
> ________________________________________
>
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From ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com  Fri Dec  7 15:50:55 2012
From: ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com (Stan Wilkins)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 15:50:55 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Holiday Gift Ideas
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Truth is that a 1600 came with the car.  I think it probably was because
the U20 developed the death rattle and someone thought they'd do what
Linda suggests.  However, I'd still have the rest of it to do and I'm
not sure how much I want to spend on the ride when I could get a runner
for $3k or so.  What world am I living in? Here are links that prove my
point.  These may even belong to someone on the list:

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/3455989002.html

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/cto/3458135584.html

If I had disposable income beyond the current Thunderbird project, I'd
take the car to Kevin D and have him install an SR20.  Then the rest of
it wouldn't seem so daunting.  Oh well, maybe I'll get that winning
lottery ticket for Christmas!

Stan

On 12/7/2012 3:31 PM, Gary McCormick wrote:
> "Just stick a 1600 in the car til you get the U20 built"b& and then
> when someone asks you to pop the hood, you go all sheepish like the
> guy at Laguna Seca years ago who brought his Boss 351 to the Mustang
> Corral -- but it had a 351 Cleveland in itb&
>
> --- On *Fri, 12/7/12, Linda J /<ljordan704 at netscape.net>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: Linda J <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
>     Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Holiday Gift Ideas
>     To: "Stan Wilkins" <ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com>
>     Cc: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>     Date: Friday, December 7, 2012, 2:09 PM
>
>     Stan
>     Just stick a 1600 in the car til you get the U20 built
>
>     Linda
>
>     Sent from my iPod

From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Fri Dec  7 15:56:17 2012
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:56:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Holiday Gift Ideas
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP18925CB9BE85214EF27E8BDB4440@phx.gbl>
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Second ad, blue Roadster in Whittier: "Similar to Shelby, camero (sic),
mustang, corvette, mg, triumph, miata"...

Those last three REALLY hurt.

--- On Fri, 12/7/12, Stan Wilkins <ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Stan Wilkins <ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Holiday Gift Ideas
To:
Cc: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, December 7, 2012, 2:50 PM

Truth is that a 1600 came with the car.  I think it probably was because
the U20 developed the death rattle and someone thought they'd do what
Linda suggests.  However, I'd still have the rest of it to do and I'm
not sure how much I want to spend on the ride when I could get a runner
for $3k or so.  What world am I living in? Here are links that prove my
point.  These may even belong to someone on the list:

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/3455989002.html

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/cto/3458135584.html

If I had disposable income beyond the current Thunderbird project, I'd
take the car to Kevin D and have him install an SR20.  Then the rest of
it wouldn't seem so daunting.  Oh well, maybe I'll get that winning
lottery ticket for Christmas!

Stan

On 12/7/2012 3:31 PM, Gary McCormick wrote:
> "Just stick a 1600 in the car til you get the U20 built"b& and then
> when someone asks you to pop the hood, you go all sheepish like the
> guy at Laguna Seca years ago who brought his Boss 351 to the Mustang
> Corral -- but it had a 351 Cleveland in itb&
>
> --- On *Fri, 12/7/12, Linda J /<ljordan704 at netscape.net>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: Linda J <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
>     Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Holiday Gift Ideas
>     To: "Stan Wilkins" <ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com>
>     Cc: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>     Date: Friday, December 7, 2012, 2:09 PM
>
>     Stan
>     Just stick a 1600 in the car til you get the U20 built
>
>     Linda
>
>     Sent from my iPod
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From ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com  Fri Dec  7 18:22:26 2012
From: ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com (Stan Wilkins)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:22:26 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Holiday Gift Ideas
In-Reply-To: <1354920977.46077.YahooMailClassic@web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
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But what about the price; is it reasonable?

Stan

On 12/7/2012 3:56 PM, Gary McCormick wrote:
> Second ad, blue Roadster in Whittier: "Similar to Shelby, camero 
> (sic), mustang, corvette, mg, triumph, miata"...
>
> Those last three REALLY hurt.
>
> --- On *Fri, 12/7/12, Stan Wilkins /<ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: Stan Wilkins <ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com>
>     Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Holiday Gift Ideas
>     To:
>     Cc: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>     Date: Friday, December 7, 2012, 2:50 PM
>
>     Truth is that a 1600 came with the car.  I think it probably was
>     because
>     the U20 developed the death rattle and someone thought they'd do what
>     Linda suggests.  However, I'd still have the rest of it to do and I'm
>     not sure how much I want to spend on the ride when I could get a
>     runner
>     for $3k or so.  What world am I living in? Here are links that
>     prove my
>     point.  These may even belong to someone on the list:
>
>     http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/3455989002.html
>
>     http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/cto/3458135584.html
>
>     If I had disposable income beyond the current Thunderbird project, I'd
>     take the car to Kevin D and have him install an SR20. Then the rest of
>     it wouldn't seem so daunting.  Oh well, maybe I'll get that winning
>     lottery ticket for Christmas!
>
>     Stan
>
>     On 12/7/2012 3:31 PM, Gary McCormick wrote:
>     > "Just stick a 1600 in the car til you get the U20 built"b& and then
>     > when someone asks you to pop the hood, you go all sheepish like the
>     > guy at Laguna Seca years ago who brought his Boss 351 to the Mustang
>     > Corral -- but it had a 351 Cleveland in itb&
>     >
>     > --- On *Fri, 12/7/12, Linda J /<ljordan704 at netscape.net
>     </mc/compose?to=ljordan704 at netscape.net>>/* wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     >     From: Linda J <ljordan704 at netscape.net
>     </mc/compose?to=ljordan704 at netscape.net>>
>     >     Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Holiday Gift Ideas
>     >     To: "Stan Wilkins" <ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com
>     </mc/compose?to=ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com>>
>     >     Cc: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>     </mc/compose?to=datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>>
>     >     Date: Friday, December 7, 2012, 2:09 PM
>     >
>     >     Stan
>     >     Just stick a 1600 in the car til you get the U20 built
>     >
>     >     Linda
>     >
>     >     Sent from my iPod
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From ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com  Fri Dec  7 18:38:04 2012
From: ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com (Stan Wilkins)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:38:04 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Holiday Gift Ideas
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I may have started something here that I didn't mean to.  I know that 
anything is worth what someone is willing to pay.  But in general things 
have a basic value depending on the current market. I remember all too 
well the XK140 for $400.00 that I passed on because it wouldn't start.  
How much is it worth today?  The Healey 100/6 that an Airman at Luke AFB 
had for sale for $800.  He was being transferred and needed to sell 
NOW.  That same car today is way more than $800.  Truth is that I had 
many opportunities in my youth but in those days I weighed too much to 
fit in a typical sports car.  I'm down to 196 lbs and think I could fit 
in one now. Of course I'm way older so getting out may still be a 
challenge; but it's a challenge I'm dying to meet.  Anyway, I see 
runners in the Datsun realm that are less expensive than the typical MGB 
unless I'm willing to get a rubber bumper model.  Nothing against them 
but I personally would prefer a chrome bumper Datsun.

Stan, thinking about the possibilities.

On 12/7/2012 6:22 PM, Stan Wilkins wrote:
> But what about the price; is it reasonable?
>
> Stan
>
> On 12/7/2012 3:56 PM, Gary McCormick wrote:
>> Second ad, blue Roadster in Whittier: "Similar to Shelby, camero
>> (sic), mustang, corvette, mg, triumph, miata"...
>>
>> Those last three REALLY hurt.

From aultgc at att.net  Fri Dec  7 19:52:01 2012
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 20:52:01 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Info: Replace gasket between head and engine block.
 What, how, major? Not a job for old fart?
References: <004d01cdd4c6$7f772420$6d01a8c0@charles524923>
Message-ID: <E29251AE13474F65910211D127EDC775@gaxp1>

Charles,

How did you determine that you have a head gasket leak?

Replacing the head gasket on a U20 is time consuming, but do-able even for 
an old fart.  There ae some potential pitfalls, like the little 10mm bolt 
which holds the upper chai nguide to the cylinder head, but you should be 
able to do it with the engine in the car.  Getting the rearmost manifold 
nuts off the studs can prove challenging.

10-4 CST doesn't really work for me, since it's during business hours.  (My 
boss has a difficult enough time getting hold of me, so your chances are 
fewer.)  I can be reached evenings after ~7:30 PM CST (Chicago area) at 
(219) 322-1923.  I can help walk you through the process.

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Vanderburg" <maltamayor at windstream.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 4:02 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Info: Replace gasket between head and engine block. 
What, how, major? Not a job for old fart?


> Nice little SR311.  While complete update with new parts, found leak in 
> gasket
> tween head and block at 2500-3000 rpm plus.  Anyone knows what is 
> involved?
> Big time?  Major?
> No leak at idle  .Sounds like big job!  If interest, reply or call
> 903-277-8486,  10-4 CST.
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Fri Dec  7 19:51:21 2012
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:51:21 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Info: Replace gasket between head and engine block.
 What, how, major? Not a job for old fart?
In-Reply-To: <004d01cdd4c6$7f772420$6d01a8c0@charles524923>
References: <004d01cdd4c6$7f772420$6d01a8c0@charles524923>
Message-ID: <SNT106-W2D6CF889CAC82A87D87D7DF4B0@phx.gbl>

I'm an old fart (64) and no problem.
You don't  say where you are located - always a good idea - someone might be
helpful enough to stop by.

First interesting point is how do you know that the leak occurs at 2500-3000?
And what are the symptoms - perhaps it is something else.
Any overheating??
What thermostat is installed?

Steps to take. and things to consider.
Compression check on all cylinders with air filter removed. They should all be
equal( though possibly not in your case) and ideally somewhere around 150 or
so. I think factory was 169 for the U20 i.e. lower for the U20 as opposed to
the R16 at @ 181
Is there any coolant loss - typically the overflow tank is full (if the leak
is into the water jacket) You can purchase a kit that analyses the coolant for
oil presence.
Most times the leak appears between #2 & #3 but not always.

If you determine you have a leak then as far as I know r&r is IMMEDIATELY
required (especially for the U20) While I have experience only with the R16,
my understanding is that the U20 head is more prone to warping.

So, access entails at a minimum (some of this may not apply to U20) - so sue
me!
removing intake manifold
loosen exhaust (sometimes you can pull it away from studs sufficiently)
otherwise - remove exhaust
drain radiator
disconnect all coolant/fuel lines
disconnect all cables to carburetors
valve cover
spark plug wires
and anything else that is attached to the head (temperature sender - good time
to also check that it is properly grounded)

Now be CAREFUL
Depending upon whether you have STUDS or BOLTS securing head to block
If studs - then typically the nuts will remove easily.
If BOLTS then it is always (IMHO) a good idea to TIGHTEN the bolt by about ONE
flat, then LOOSEN a flat, then TIGHTEN again. The reason for this is that if
there is rust involved TIGHTENING introduces CLEAN metal to the equation, thus
avoiding the possibility of breaking the bolt (a REAL PITA to resolve). Then
LOOSEN by 2, TIGHTEN by 1 and repeat until you are CERTAIN the bolt is free. (
If you have bolts, it would behoove you to replace with studs when
rebuilding.)
Since the U20 has an OHC, I am not sure what procedures are neccessary for
loosening the chain to allow for head removal - someone more knowledgeable
about the U20 will probably chime in.
Once the head is removed (CAREFULLY) a bit at a time (GENTLY smacking with a
BFH and a wood block should loosen enough (again depending upon BOLT/STUD
presence)

Inspect the gasket on BOTH sides - this will generally give you some clues.
Carbon deposits between the cylinders etc,

Resolution
Now check that the head is FLAT ( or at least within tolerance ) (check 311s
for appropriate tolerances ). If NOT then some milling is appropriate and then
you have to consider the impact on the cam towers. They will need to be
SHIMMED to take up the slack caused by the milling - CRUCIAL. Also note the
milling process (SMALL passes rather than BIG passes on the milling)

New gaskets all round - if coolant related might be a good idea to check the
water pump, had a vicious cycle of head gasket (fixed) then water pump failure
which caused the head gasket to blow again.

On the R16 there are 2 hoses which are IMPOSSIBLE to replace without removing
a lot of stuff. Replace ALL hoses that are inaccessible, regardless of
apparent condition.

While the valve cover is off - good opportunity to polish it and generally
"tart" up all the bits you h ave taken off.

Disassembly - about 3 hours
Reassembly - 4-6

Make sure you are aware of torquing requirements (how much and when to
retorque etc.)


That's my 2c
Hope useful

From spedlyy at comcast.net  Fri Dec  7 23:06:41 2012
From: spedlyy at comcast.net (Spedlyy)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 22:06:41 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters on ebay (was Holiday gift ideas)
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP18925CB9BE85214EF27E8BDB4440@phx.gbl>
References: <1354919502.14060.YahooMailClassic@web181404.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP18925CB9BE85214EF27E8BDB4440@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C4AC40D19C2841DB965013F2C30D1A8F@XPS2008>

In the first ad, did anyone else notice that there are 5 pictures of a white 
car and one of the engine compartment of a RED car?

What's up with that?  Description and price sound too good to be true...

Ed York
'68 1600
Everett, WA


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stan Wilkins" <ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com>
Cc: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Holiday Gift Ideas


> Truth is that a 1600 came with the car.  I think it probably was because
> the U20 developed the death rattle and someone thought they'd do what
> Linda suggests.  However, I'd still have the rest of it to do and I'm
> not sure how much I want to spend on the ride when I could get a runner
> for $3k or so.  What world am I living in? Here are links that prove my
> point.  These may even belong to someone on the list:
>
> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/3455989002.html
>
> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/cto/3458135584.html
>
> If I had disposable income beyond the current Thunderbird project, I'd
> take the car to Kevin D and have him install an SR20.  Then the rest of
> it wouldn't seem so daunting.  Oh well, maybe I'll get that winning
> lottery ticket for Christmas!
>
> Stan
>
> On 12/7/2012 3:31 PM, Gary McCormick wrote:
>> "Just stick a 1600 in the car til you get the U20 built"b& and then
>> when someone asks you to pop the hood, you go all sheepish like the
>> guy at Laguna Seca years ago who brought his Boss 351 to the Mustang
>> Corral -- but it had a 351 Cleveland in itb&
>>
>> --- On *Fri, 12/7/12, Linda J /<ljordan704 at netscape.net>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>>     From: Linda J <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
>>     Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Holiday Gift Ideas
>>     To: "Stan Wilkins" <ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com>
>>     Cc: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>>     Date: Friday, December 7, 2012, 2:09 PM
>>
>>     Stan
>>     Just stick a 1600 in the car til you get the U20 built
>>
>>     Linda
>>
>>     Sent from my iPod
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From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com  Sat Dec  8 06:10:43 2012
From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 08:10:43 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Info: Replace gasket between head and engine block.
 What, how, major? Not a job for old fart?
In-Reply-To: <SNT106-W2D6CF889CAC82A87D87D7DF4B0@phx.gbl>
References: <004d01cdd4c6$7f772420$6d01a8c0@charles524923>
	<SNT106-W2D6CF889CAC82A87D87D7DF4B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <F7B34B79-DFD1-49D1-A716-3E1A3C418D72@rochester.rr.com>

Good advice already in this tread. Depending on the compression test results
you may want to get a valve job and check head for warpage. And, since you are
so close, suggest you pull the timing cover and inspect the timing components
and change the timing chains....

Regarding upper chain for head removal on the U20, just remove the cam drive
gear from the camshaft (2 bolts) and use the Phillips screw in the gear to
mount the gear on the upper chain guide bracket ...the eyelet in the "evil L".
(it is there for a reason). Before you do, be sure to set engine to TDC and
maintain the relationship of the cam gear to the chain as you mount to the
evil L.

One thing I enjoy about working on my roadster versus my "commuter" car is I
can take my time. Work at a comfortable pace and take breaks when you feel
frustration.

From chalsted at comcast.net  Sat Dec  8 07:57:08 2012
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 14:57:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] datsun roadster and wife's diary
Message-ID: <208364647.724903.1354978628325.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

slightly modified from the version sent to me... 

Wife's Diary: 

Tonight, I thought my husband was acting weird. We had made plans to meet at a nice restaurant for dinner. I was shopping with my friends all day long, so I thought he was upset at the fact that I was a bit late, but he made no comment on it. Conversation wasn't flowing, so I suggested that we go somewhere quiet so we could talk. He agreed, but he didn't say much. 

I asked him what was wrong; He said, "Nothing." I asked him if it was my fault that he was upset. He said he wasn't upset, that it had nothing to do with me, and not to worry about it. On the way home, I told him that I loved him. He smiled slightly, and kept driving. 

I can't explain his behavior I don't know why he didn't say, "I love you, too." When we got home, I felt as if I had lost him completely, as if he wanted nothing to do with me anymore. He just sat there quietly and watched TV. He continued to seem distant and absent. Finally, with silence all around us, I decided to go to bed. About 15 minutes later, he came to bed. But I still felt that he was distracted and his thoughts were somewhere else. He fell asleep -- I cried. I don't know what to do. I'm almost sure that his thoughts are with someone else. My life is a disaster. 

Husband's Diary: 

roadster wouldn't start, can't figure it out ... 

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Sat Dec  8 08:40:30 2012
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 07:40:30 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] datsun roadster and wife's diary
In-Reply-To: <208364647.724903.1354978628325.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <208364647.724903.1354978628325.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAD48CFE-43C6-4557-99F7-7AC16F8C0AC1@netscape.net>

Thus the perfect holiday gift from wives to the hubby.........uh huh.

Linda

Sent from my iPod

On Dec 8, 2012, at 6:57 AM, chalsted at comcast.net wrote:

> slightly modified from the version sent to me...
>
> Wife's Diary:
>
> Tonight, I thought my husband was acting weird. We had made plans to meet at
a nice restaurant for dinner. I was shopping with my friends all day long, so
I thought he was upset at the fact that I was a bit late, but he made no
comment on it. Conversation wasn't flowing, so I suggested that we go
somewhere quiet so we could talk. He agreed, but he didn't say much.
>
> I asked him what was wrong; He said, "Nothing." I asked him if it was my
fault that he was upset. He said he wasn't upset, that it had nothing to do
with me, and not to worry about it. On the way home, I told him that I loved
him. He smiled slightly, and kept driving.
>
> I can't explain his behavior I don't know why he didn't say, "I love you,
too." When we got home, I felt as if I had lost him completely, as if he
wanted nothing to do with me anymore. He just sat there quietly and watched
TV. He continued to seem distant and absent. Finally, with silence all around
us, I decided to go to bed. About 15 minutes later, he came to bed. But I
still felt that he was distracted and his thoughts were somewhere else. He
fell asleep -- I cried. I don't know what to do. I'm almost sure that his
thoughts are with someone else. My life is a disaster.
>
> Husband's Diary:
>
> roadster wouldn't start, can't figure it out ...
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>
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>
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From chalsted at comcast.net  Sat Dec  8 09:06:57 2012
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 16:06:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] another Frankendatsun- a woody!
Message-ID: <725003736.726273.1354982817994.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

currently on ebay with 3 hours or so to go...built on a Datsun pickup chassis 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/woody-wagon-barn-find-project-rat-rod-/190762102356?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2c6a4eae54#v4-47 

From tputland at charter.net  Sat Dec  8 16:36:58 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 18:36:58 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters on ebay (was Holiday gift ideas)
Message-ID: <59764191.22fc93.13b7ce1011a.Webtop.45@charter.net>

I sent an email about the two different engine bays and did not get a 
response........


On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Spedlyy wrote:

> In the first ad, did anyone else notice that there are 5 pictures of a 
> white car and one of the engine compartment of a RED car?
>
> What's up with that?  Description and price sound too good to be 
> true...
>
> Ed York
> '68 1600
> Everett, WA
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Wilkins" 
> <ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com>
> Cc: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 2:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Holiday Gift Ideas
>
>
>> Truth is that a 1600 came with the car.  I think it probably was 
>> because
>> the U20 developed the death rattle and someone thought they'd do what
>> Linda suggests.  However, I'd still have the rest of it to do and I'm
>> not sure how much I want to spend on the ride when I could get a 
>> runner
>> for $3k or so.  What world am I living in? Here are links that prove 
>> my
>> point.  These may even belong to someone on the list:
>>
>> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/3455989002.html
>>
>> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/cto/3458135584.html
>>
>> If I had disposable income beyond the current Thunderbird project, 
>> I'd
>> take the car to Kevin D and have him install an SR20.  Then the rest 
>> of
>> it wouldn't seem so daunting.  Oh well, maybe I'll get that winning
>> lottery ticket for Christmas!
>>
>> Stan
>>
>> On 12/7/2012 3:31 PM, Gary McCormick wrote:
>>> "Just stick a 1600 in the car til you get the U20 built"b& and then
>>> when someone asks you to pop the hood, you go all sheepish like the
>>> guy at Laguna Seca years ago who brought his Boss 351 to the Mustang
>>> Corral -- but it had a 351 Cleveland in itb&
>>>
>>> --- On *Fri, 12/7/12, Linda J /<ljordan704 at netscape.net>/* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>     From: Linda J <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
>>>     Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Holiday Gift Ideas
>>>     To: "Stan Wilkins" <ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com>
>>>     Cc: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>>>     Date: Friday, December 7, 2012, 2:09 PM
>>>
>>>     Stan
>>>     Just stick a 1600 in the car til you get the U20 built
>>>
>>>     Linda
>>>
>>>     Sent from my iPod
>> ________________________________________

From RWM at RWMann.com  Sat Dec  8 17:09:28 2012
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 19:09:28 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Thread of the Year
Message-ID: <50C3D6B8.60404@RWMann.com>

"Caster and Camber"

...if not for the valuable advice on suspension geometry, for the 
unsolicited emails (LOL) that followed.

From phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov  Sat Dec  8 19:04:17 2012
From: phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ES11))
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 20:04:17 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] OT - Toyota/Scion FR-S
Message-ID: <CCE94DC1.13020%phillip.b.hall@nasa.gov>

So... Took the Highlander in for a recall to the dealership that a friend is
an owner of. Joe had a new Scion FR-S on the lot and ask if I wanted to take
it for a drive. At first I said no. You see, I have been driving sports cars
(like my 67 Datsun 2000 Solex) for 30 years and newer sports cars just don't
do a lot for me. Driven a bunch of them,,, and this FR-S is an automatic...

So, he asked again.. My daughter and I really like the looks of the car and
the seats are wonderful. Ok - we head out with the car. Joe has me head to the
local hills with lots of corners. I keep the car in manual mode and use the
paddle shifters.

It has a Subaru motor (Boxer) at 200 HP so power was good. It is a very happy
reving motor to 7000 RPM. I found shifting at 6000 was perfect. With the auto
in manual mode and shifting with the paddles was, well, nice. I was expecting
a major lag (like the Tundra) but not so - and hard/fast down shifts coming
fast into corners was flat out fun! It 'blipped' and dropped down a gear, then
back into the throttle - haha.. good times.

Hard in the corners the car just felt right! Pushing to the limit, the rear
end set down and really grabbed. Most new sports cars have a too high of CG in
the rear and lift slightly in corners which gives you that bit of mmmm... With
all of us in the car I did not push over the limit - another day. Usually when
I drive this kind of car, all I can focus on was what it needs - bigger bars -
better tires,,,,but, dang, this thing did it all very well.

I can't believe how much I enjoyed this car! It was a hoot to push through the
corners!! It was so solid/tight and just felt great! More over, it is amazing
that I actually liked the transmission! An automatic sports car is worthless -
except for this one..

Ok - now to convince my wife I really need one of these... ha...

Now  how come Nissan could not have built this....

Thumbs up and high five the crowd!

Phil/SEROC

From ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com  Sat Dec  8 20:03:23 2012
From: ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com (Stan Wilkins)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 20:03:23 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters on ebay (was Holiday gift ideas)
In-Reply-To: <59764191.22fc93.13b7ce1011a.Webtop.45@charter.net>
References: <59764191.22fc93.13b7ce1011a.Webtop.45@charter.net>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP2091D5E4FC00408FE0DDF4FB44A0@phx.gbl>

I'm the one who sent the links but didn't notice the discrepancy. Wonder 
what that's about...... But the price is low enough it wouldn't take too 
much from all of the group to buy it for me.

Stan, who spent the day at the neighbor's house helping my wife paint 
all the rooms.

On 12/8/2012 4:36 PM, Tim wrote:
> I sent an email about the two different engine bays and did not get a 
> response........
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Spedlyy wrote:
>
>> In the first ad, did anyone else notice that there are 5 pictures of 
>> a white car and one of the engine compartment of a RED car?
>>
>> What's up with that?  Description and price sound too good to be true...
>>
>> Ed York
>> '68 1600
>> Everett, WA

From datrock at centurytel.net  Sun Dec  9 14:48:27 2012
From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole)
Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 13:48:27 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] WTB: Late Model Windshield in Pacific Northwest
Message-ID: <50C5072B.4010503@centurytel.net>

Hi, I am trying to locate a good condition late model windshield for a 
friend who broke his while reinstalling it in the car. If you have one 
that you would like to sell please email me with the price, location, 
and condition. He is located in Albany, Oregon.. thanks ahead of 
time...Bill Cole

From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Sun Dec  9 15:13:25 2012
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 16:13:25 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] OT - Toyota/Scion FR-S
In-Reply-To: <CCE94DC1.13020%phillip.b.hall@nasa.gov>
References: <CCE94DC1.13020%phillip.b.hall@nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <CAMHhs6fp-pYCrkaLp6OsrBuH1uN7B_VytXCwF4j_S=DNXY=p2A@mail.gmail.com>

Nice writeup, Phil. I've been wanting to check those out myself. Nissan
could build something like that, if they wanted to, but it doesn't seem
like they're interested. IMO, Mazda is the only Japanese car maker
who's consistently building interesting, fun to drive cars. Every once in a
while Honda and Toyota will offer something like the MR2, Celica Spyder or
the S2000. I too have a friend who's owned the Honda and Subaru stores in
Killeen (Ft. Hood) for years and he says the Honda dealers have been
bombarding Honda Corporate with requests for a gas CR-V Si since before the
hybrid was released.

We see the NISMO and TRD names here, but in the US Mazda is the biggest
supporter at grassroots levels. I seem to recall that many of the old
timers with Datsun (Nissan USA) Motorsports ended up at Mazda. Anyway,
maybe I need to see if I can get a "family & friends" deal on the
Scion/Subie.

Ron

On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ES11) <
phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov> wrote:

> So... Took the Highlander in for a recall to the dealership that a friend
> is
> an owner of. Joe had a new Scion FR-S on the lot and ask if I wanted to
> take
> it for a drive. At first I said no. You see, I have been driving sports
> cars
> (like my 67 Datsun 2000 Solex) for 30 years and newer sports cars just
> don't
> do a lot for me. Driven a bunch of them,,, and this FR-S is an automatic...
>
> So, he asked again.. My daughter and I really like the looks of the car and
> the seats are wonderful. Ok - we head out with the car. Joe has me head to
> the
> local hills with lots of corners. I keep the car in manual mode and use the
> paddle shifters.
>
> It has a Subaru motor (Boxer) at 200 HP so power was good. It is a very
> happy
> reving motor to 7000 RPM. I found shifting at 6000 was perfect. With the
> auto
> in manual mode and shifting with the paddles was, well, nice. I was
> expecting
> a major lag (like the Tundra) but not so - and hard/fast down shifts coming
> fast into corners was flat out fun! It 'blipped' and dropped down a gear,
> then
> back into the throttle - haha.. good times.
>
> Hard in the corners the car just felt right! Pushing to the limit, the rear
> end set down and really grabbed. Most new sports cars have a too high of
> CG in
> the rear and lift slightly in corners which gives you that bit of mmmm...
> With
> all of us in the car I did not push over the limit - another day. Usually
> when
> I drive this kind of car, all I can focus on was what it needs - bigger
> bars -
> better tires,,,,but, dang, this thing did it all very well.
>
> I can't believe how much I enjoyed this car! It was a hoot to push through
> the
> corners!! It was so solid/tight and just felt great! More over, it is
> amazing
> that I actually liked the transmission! An automatic sports car is
> worthless -
> except for this one..
>
> Ok - now to convince my wife I really need one of these... ha...
>
> Now   how come Nissan could not have built this....
>
> Thumbs up and high five the crowd!
>
> Phil/SEROC
> ________________________________________
>
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>
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From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Sun Dec  9 15:24:03 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 17:24:03 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] [Bluebird510] Re:  OT - Toyota/Scion FR-S
In-Reply-To: <CAMHhs6fp-pYCrkaLp6OsrBuH1uN7B_VytXCwF4j_S=DNXY=p2A@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAMHhs6fp-pYCrkaLp6OsrBuH1uN7B_VytXCwF4j_S=DNXY=p2A@mail.gmail.com>
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  You must have missed the BRE Miata at the Mitty last year!

Paul
Ohio

On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Ronnie Day <ronnie.day at gmail.com> wrote:

>  I seem to recall that many of the old timers with Datsun (Nissan USA)
> Motorsports ended up at Mazda.

From tputland at charter.net  Sun Dec  9 15:28:08 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 17:28:08 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] WTB: Late Model Windshield in Pacific Northwest
Message-ID: <85029d1.ec5ea.13b81c8570e.Webtop.48@charter.net>

I am sure Ross Mullen can help. He can be reached via the 311s.org site.

tim


On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Bill Cole wrote:

> Hi, I am trying to locate a good condition late model windshield for a 
> friend who broke his while reinstalling it in the car. If you have one 
> that you would like to sell please email me with the price, location, 
> and condition. He is located in Albany, Oregon.. thanks ahead of 
> time...Bill Cole
> ________________________________________

From hrhaslett at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  9 21:21:17 2012
From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 20:21:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
In-Reply-To: <e43f78b.1c23cc.13b48e62911.Webtop.47@charter.net>
References: <e43f78b.1c23cc.13b48e62911.Webtop.47@charter.net>
Message-ID: <1355113277.4946.YahooMailNeo@web162005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Sadly I am still in tuning hell.  I have set the dwell to 52 degrees.  Checked
all connections that they are clean and tight.   When car ran it was rough but
I set the timing to 16 degrees  at 600 rpm and verified the vacuum advance was
operating correctly and no leaks when revving engine.  But, the car runs like
shit..super rough with the engine shaking like hell.  Now, the car won't even
start??  Could I have some bad new iginition parts?  Could my 6 month old
Diamond coil have failed?  Previous to attempting this tune up the car ran a
little weird with some very slight backfire but it ran great on the highway. 
I don't think its a carb thing.  Valves were checked 3 times.  I don't get it.
Thanks
Roy



________________________________
 From: Tim
<tputland at charter.net>
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
 
I have (as usual) nothing new to
add. But, I will echo what others have said as well as Paul below. And also
add that my running issues got worse and worse on my tired 1600 as the exhaust
leak at the manifold got worse.

Still waiting on my machinist to finish the
head on my stroker. One step forward, two steps back.....sigh

tim


On Wed,
Nov 28, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Paul Kort wrote:

> Even on the race R16s, spinning
up to 8000 rpms, we never had a timing
> chain jump.
> 
>   back to basics,
set the valve clearance, set the ignition timing, then
> work on the carbs.
>
> Paul
> Ohio
> 
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Pete Peters
<ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> According to Roy, the head was rebuilt
at 5k; the motor at 20k (was the
>> timing chain/gears replaced at that
time?). Engine was running fine up
>> until
>> a few hundred miles ago, then
slowly deteriorated.
>> 
>> Wouldn't a timing chain jumping be instantly
noticeable? And, while
>> possible, has anyone experienced a 1600 timing chain
jumping? Isn't that
>> more likely in the OHC engines (U20, L-series)?
>> 
>>
My money is on something more simple like floats and/or exhaust/vacuum
>>
leaks.
>> 
>> This has been a fun thread. Eagerly awaiting the resolution!
>>
>> 
>> Pete
> ________________________________________
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From sales at rslaserkits.com  Sun Dec  9 21:56:37 2012
From: sales at rslaserkits.com (Richard Shepard)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 20:56:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
In-Reply-To: <1355113277.4946.YahooMailNeo@web162005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <e43f78b.1c23cc.13b48e62911.Webtop.47@charter.net>
	<1355113277.4946.YahooMailNeo@web162005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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How old are the wires? Try staring it at night with no lights and check for
starks
rich
 

________________________________
 From: Roy Haslett
<hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
To: Tim <tputland at charter.net>; datsun-roadsters:
autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Sunday, December 9,
2012 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
  
Sadly I am still
in tuning hell.  I have set the dwell to 52 degrees.  Checked
all connections
that they are clean and tight.   When car ran it was rough but
I set the
timing to 16 degrees  at 600 rpm and verified the vacuum advance was
operating
correctly and no leaks when revving engine.  But, the car runs like
shit..super rough with the engine shaking like hell.  Now, the car won't even
start??  Could I have some bad new iginition parts?  Could my 6 month old
Diamond coil have failed?  Previous to attempting this tune up the car ran a
little weird with some very slight backfire but it ran great on the highway.
I don't think its a carb thing.  Valves were checked 3 times.  I don't get it.
Thanks
Roy



________________________________
From: Tim
<tputland at charter.net>
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues

I have (as usual) nothing new to
add. But, I will echo what others have said as well as Paul below. And also
add that my running issues got worse and worse on my tired 1600 as the exhaust
leak at the manifold got worse.

Still waiting on my machinist to finish the
head on my stroker. One step forward, two steps back.....sigh

tim


On Wed,
Nov 28, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Paul Kort wrote:

> Even on the race R16s, spinning
up to 8000 rpms, we never had a timing
> chain jump.
> 
>   back to basics,
set the valve clearance, set the ignition timing, then
> work on the carbs.
>
> Paul
> Ohio
> 
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Pete Peters
<ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> According to Roy, the head was rebuilt
at 5k; the motor at 20k (was the
>> timing chain/gears replaced at that
time?). Engine was running fine up
>> until
>> a few hundred miles ago, then
slowly deteriorated.
>> 
>> Wouldn't a timing chain jumping be instantly
noticeable? And, while
>> possible, has anyone experienced a 1600 timing chain
jumping? Isn't that
>> more likely in the OHC engines (U20, L-series)?
>> 
>>
My money is on something more simple like floats and/or exhaust/vacuum
>>
leaks.
>> 
>> This has been a fun thread. Eagerly awaiting the resolution!
>>
>> 
>> Pete
> ________________________________________
________________________________________

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From brogsme at msn.com  Sun Dec  9 22:09:02 2012
From: brogsme at msn.com (Brian)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 21:09:02 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
In-Reply-To: <1355115397.7139.YahooMailNeo@web140805.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <e43f78b.1c23cc.13b48e62911.Webtop.47@charter.net>
	<1355113277.4946.YahooMailNeo@web162005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<1355115397.7139.YahooMailNeo@web140805.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP395731AC3B24F344749BB44A6490@phx.gbl>

Also check dist cap for arcing

Brian

On Dec 9, 2012, at 8:56 PM, Richard Shepard <sales at rslaserkits.com> wrote:

> How old are the wires? Try staring it at night with no lights and check for
> starks
> rich
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Roy Haslett
> <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
> To: Tim <tputland at charter.net>; datsun-roadsters:
> autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, December 9,
> 2012 8:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
>
> Sadly I am still
> in tuning hell.  I have set the dwell to 52 degrees.  Checked
> all connections
> that they are clean and tight.   When car ran it was rough but
> I set the
> timing to 16 degrees  at 600 rpm and verified the vacuum advance was
> operating
> correctly and no leaks when revving engine.  But, the car runs like
> shit..super rough with the engine shaking like hell.  Now, the car won't
even
> start??  Could I have some bad new iginition parts?  Could my 6 month old
> Diamond coil have failed?  Previous to attempting this tune up the car ran
a
> little weird with some very slight backfire but it ran great on the
highway.
> I don't think its a carb thing.  Valves were checked 3 times.  I don't get
it.
> Thanks
> Roy
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Tim
> <tputland at charter.net>
> To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
>
> I have (as usual) nothing new to
> add. But, I will echo what others have said as well as Paul below. And also
> add that my running issues got worse and worse on my tired 1600 as the
exhaust
> leak at the manifold got worse.
>
> Still waiting on my machinist to finish the
> head on my stroker. One step forward, two steps back.....sigh
>
> tim
>
>
> On Wed,
> Nov 28, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Paul Kort wrote:
>
>> Even on the race R16s, spinning
> up to 8000 rpms, we never had a timing
>> chain jump.
>>
>>  back to basics,
> set the valve clearance, set the ignition timing, then
>> work on the carbs.
>>
>> Paul
>> Ohio
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Pete Peters
> <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> According to Roy, the head was rebuilt
> at 5k; the motor at 20k (was the
>>> timing chain/gears replaced at that
> time?). Engine was running fine up
>>> until
>>> a few hundred miles ago, then
> slowly deteriorated.
>>>
>>> Wouldn't a timing chain jumping be instantly
> noticeable? And, while
>>> possible, has anyone experienced a 1600 timing chain
> jumping? Isn't that
>>> more likely in the OHC engines (U20, L-series)?
> My money is on something more simple like floats and/or exhaust/vacuum
> leaks.
>>>
>>> This has been a fun thread. Eagerly awaiting the resolution!
>>>
>>>
>>> Pete
>> ________________________________________
> ________________________________________
>
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From hrhaslett at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  9 22:45:41 2012
From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 21:45:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP395731AC3B24F344749BB44A6490@phx.gbl>
References: <e43f78b.1c23cc.13b48e62911.Webtop.47@charter.net>
	<1355113277.4946.YahooMailNeo@web162005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<1355115397.7139.YahooMailNeo@web140805.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP395731AC3B24F344749BB44A6490@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1355118341.68617.YahooMailNeo@web162006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

New cap, rotor, condensor, points, recent silicone wires, 6 month old coil and
plugs



________________________________
 From: Brian <brogsme at msn.com>
To:
Richard Shepard <sales at rslaserkits.com> 
Cc: Roy Haslett
<hrhaslett at yahoo.com>; Tim <tputland at charter.net>; datsun-roadsters:
autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Sunday, December 9,
2012 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
 
Also check dist cap
for arcing

Brian

On Dec 9, 2012, at 8:56 PM, Richard Shepard
<sales at rslaserkits.com> wrote:

> How old are the wires? Try staring it at
night with no lights and check for
> starks
> rich
> 
> 
>
________________________________
> From: Roy Haslett
> <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
>
To: Tim <tputland at charter.net>; datsun-roadsters:
> autox.team.net
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
> Sent: Sunday, December 9,
> 2012 8:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
> 
> Sadly I am still
> in
tuning hell.  I have set the dwell to 52 degrees.  Checked
> all connections
>
that they are clean and tight.   When car ran it was rough but
> I set the
>
timing to 16 degrees  at 600 rpm and verified the vacuum advance was
>
operating
> correctly and no leaks when revving engine.  But, the car runs
like
> shit..super rough with the engine shaking like hell.  Now, the car
won't even
> start??  Could I have some bad new iginition parts?  Could my 6
month old
> Diamond coil have failed?  Previous to attempting this tune up the
car ran a
> little weird with some very slight backfire but it ran great on
the highway.
> I don't think its a carb thing.  Valves were checked 3 times. 
I don't get it.
> Thanks
> Roy
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
>
From: Tim
> <tputland at charter.net>
> To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
>
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:22
PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
> 
> I have (as usual)
nothing new to
> add. But, I will echo what others have said as well as Paul
below. And also
> add that my running issues got worse and worse on my tired
1600 as the exhaust
> leak at the manifold got worse.
> 
> Still waiting on my
machinist to finish the
> head on my stroker. One step forward, two steps
back.....sigh
> 
> tim
> 
> 
> On Wed,
> Nov 28, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Paul Kort
wrote:
> 
>> Even on the race R16s, spinning
> up to 8000 rpms, we never had a
timing
>> chain jump.
>> 
>>  back to basics,
> set the valve clearance, set
the ignition timing, then
>> work on the carbs.
>> 
>> Paul
>> Ohio
>> 
>> On
Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Pete Peters
> <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> According to Roy, the head was rebuilt
> at 5k; the motor at 20k (was the
>>> timing chain/gears replaced at that
> time?). Engine was running fine up
>>> until
>>> a few hundred miles ago, then
> slowly deteriorated.
>>> 
>>>
Wouldn't a timing chain jumping be instantly
> noticeable? And, while
>>>
possible, has anyone experienced a 1600 timing chain
> jumping? Isn't that
>>>
more likely in the OHC engines (U20, L-series)?
> My money is on something
more simple like floats and/or exhaust/vacuum
> leaks.
>>> 
>>> This has been
a fun thread. Eagerly awaiting the resolution!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Pete
>>
________________________________________
>
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From hrhaslett at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  9 22:47:14 2012
From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 21:47:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
In-Reply-To: <C80BCEFC-5B75-4C58-A825-70E925D085E6@aim.com>
References: <e43f78b.1c23cc.13b48e62911.Webtop.47@charter.net>
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dizzy solid, wires silicone in good shape....wondering if beck arnley parts
are not good



________________________________
 From: linda
<ljordan704 at aim.com>
To: Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com> 
Cc: Tim
<tputland at charter.net>; datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2012 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
 
Plug wires on correct? Any
cracks in the wires? Blue spark from coil? Dizzy have any play in it? Might
want to convert to an EI, much better all around.

Linda

Sent from my iPod
On Dec 9, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Sadly
I am still in tuning hell.  I have set the dwell to 52 degrees.  Checked
> all
connections that they are clean and tight.   When car ran it was rough but
> I
set the timing to 16 degrees  at 600 rpm and verified the vacuum advance was
>
operating correctly and no leaks when revving engine.  But, the car runs like
> shit..super rough with the engine shaking like hell.  Now, the car won't
even
> start??  Could I have some bad new iginition parts?  Could my 6 month
old
> Diamond coil have failed?  Previous to attempting this tune up the car
ran a
> little weird with some very slight backfire but it ran great on the
highway. 
> I don't think its a carb thing.  Valves were checked 3 times.  I
don't get it.
> Thanks
> Roy
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
>
From: Tim
> <tputland at charter.net>
> To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
>
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:22
PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
> 
> I have (as usual)
nothing new to
> add. But, I will echo what others have said as well as Paul
below. And also
> add that my running issues got worse and worse on my tired
1600 as the exhaust
> leak at the manifold got worse.
> 
> Still waiting on my
machinist to finish the
> head on my stroker. One step forward, two steps
back.....sigh
> 
> tim
> 
> 
> On Wed,
> Nov 28, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Paul Kort
wrote:
> 
>> Even on the race R16s, spinning
> up to 8000 rpms, we never had a
timing
>> chain jump.
>> 
>>  back to basics,
> set the valve clearance, set
the ignition timing, then
>> work on the carbs.
>> 
>> Paul
>> Ohio
>> 
>> On
Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Pete Peters
> <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> According to Roy, the head was rebuilt
> at 5k; the motor at 20k (was the
>>> timing chain/gears replaced at that
> time?). Engine was running fine up
>>> until
>>> a few hundred miles ago, then
> slowly deteriorated.
>>> 
>>>
Wouldn't a timing chain jumping be instantly
> noticeable? And, while
>>>
possible, has anyone experienced a 1600 timing chain
> jumping? Isn't that
>>>
more likely in the OHC engines (U20, L-series)?
> My money is on something
more simple like floats and/or exhaust/vacuum
> leaks.
>>> 
>>> This has been
a fun thread. Eagerly awaiting the resolution!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Pete
>>
________________________________________
>
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From rtdengr at charter.net  Sun Dec  9 22:52:14 2012
From: rtdengr at charter.net (Bob Dicke)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 23:52:14 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
In-Reply-To: <1355118341.68617.YahooMailNeo@web162006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <e43f78b.1c23cc.13b48e62911.Webtop.47@charter.net>
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	<1355115397.7139.YahooMailNeo@web140805.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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	<1355118341.68617.YahooMailNeo@web162006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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Do you get spark on any spark wire?

Bob




-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Roy Haslett
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 11:46 PM
To: Brian; Richard Shepard
Cc: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues

New cap, rotor, condensor, points, recent silicone wires, 6 month old coil
and plugs



________________________________
 From: Brian <brogsme at msn.com>
To:
Richard Shepard <sales at rslaserkits.com>
Cc: Roy Haslett
<hrhaslett at yahoo.com>; Tim <tputland at charter.net>; datsun-roadsters:
autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 9,
2012 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
 
Also check dist cap
for arcing

Brian

On Dec 9, 2012, at 8:56 PM, Richard Shepard <sales at rslaserkits.com> wrote:

> How old are the wires? Try staring it at
night with no lights and check for
> starks
> rich
> 
> 
>
________________________________
> From: Roy Haslett
> <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
>
To: Tim <tputland at charter.net>; datsun-roadsters:
> autox.team.net
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
> Sent: Sunday, December 9,
> 2012 8:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
> 
> Sadly I am still
> in
tuning hell.  I have set the dwell to 52 degrees.  Checked
> all connections
>
that they are clean and tight.   When car ran it was rough but
> I set the
>
timing to 16 degrees  at 600 rpm and verified the vacuum advance was
>
operating
> correctly and no leaks when revving engine.  But, the car runs
like
> shit..super rough with the engine shaking like hell.  Now, the car
won't even
> start??  Could I have some bad new iginition parts?  Could my 6
month old
> Diamond coil have failed?  Previous to attempting this tune up the
car ran a
> little weird with some very slight backfire but it ran great on
the highway.
> I don't think its a carb thing.  Valves were checked 3 times. 
I don't get it.
> Thanks
> Roy
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
>
From: Tim
> <tputland at charter.net>
> To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
>
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:22
PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
> 
> I have (as usual)
nothing new to
> add. But, I will echo what others have said as well as Paul
below. And also
> add that my running issues got worse and worse on my tired
1600 as the exhaust
> leak at the manifold got worse.
> 
> Still waiting on my
machinist to finish the
> head on my stroker. One step forward, two steps
back.....sigh
> 
> tim
> 
> 
> On Wed,
> Nov 28, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Paul Kort
wrote:
> 
>> Even on the race R16s, spinning
> up to 8000 rpms, we never had a
timing
>> chain jump.
>> 
>>  back to basics,
> set the valve clearance, set
the ignition timing, then
>> work on the carbs.
>> 
>> Paul
>> Ohio
>> 
>> On
Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Pete Peters
> <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> According to Roy, the head was rebuilt
> at 5k; the motor at 20k (was the
>>> timing chain/gears replaced at that
> time?). Engine was running fine up
>>> until
>>> a few hundred miles ago, then
> slowly deteriorated.
>>> 
>>>
Wouldn't a timing chain jumping be instantly
> noticeable? And, while
>>>
possible, has anyone experienced a 1600 timing chain
> jumping? Isn't that
>>>
more likely in the OHC engines (U20, L-series)?
> My money is on something
more simple like floats and/or exhaust/vacuum
> leaks.
>>> 
>>> This has been
a fun thread. Eagerly awaiting the resolution!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Pete
>>
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From davidbentz at gmail.com  Mon Dec 10 03:51:10 2012
From: davidbentz at gmail.com (David Bentz)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 05:51:10 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
In-Reply-To: <00bb01cdd69a$816993a0$843cbae0$@charter.net>
References: <e43f78b.1c23cc.13b48e62911.Webtop.47@charter.net>
	<1355113277.4946.YahooMailNeo@web162005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<1355115397.7139.YahooMailNeo@web140805.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP395731AC3B24F344749BB44A6490@phx.gbl>
	<1355118341.68617.YahooMailNeo@web162006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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What about the battery? Mine had little to no juice left in it and it ran
really rough then died. I charged it for the night and part of the day
until I got home from work and all was well again.

Dave

On Monday, December 10, 2012, Bob Dicke wrote:

> Do you get spark on any spark wire?
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Roy Haslett
> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 11:46 PM
> To: Brian; Richard Shepard
> Cc: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
>
> New cap, rotor, condensor, points, recent silicone wires, 6 month old coil
> and plugs
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Brian <brogsme at msn.com>
> To:
> Richard Shepard <sales at rslaserkits.com>
> Cc: Roy Haslett
> <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>; Tim <tputland at charter.net>; datsun-roadsters:
> autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, December 9,
> 2012 9:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
>
> Also check dist cap
> for arcing
>
> Brian
>
> On Dec 9, 2012, at 8:56 PM, Richard Shepard <sales at rslaserkits.com> wrote:
>
> > How old are the wires? Try staring it at
> night with no lights and check for
> > starks
> > rich
> >
> >
> >
> ________________________________
> > From: Roy Haslett
> > <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
> >
> To: Tim <tputland at charter.net>; datsun-roadsters:
> > autox.team.net
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 9,
> > 2012 8:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
> >
> > Sadly I am still
> > in
> tuning hell.  I have set the dwell to 52 degrees.  Checked
> > all connections
> >
> that they are clean and tight.   When car ran it was rough but
> > I set the
> >
> timing to 16 degrees  at 600 rpm and verified the vacuum advance was
> >
> operating
> > correctly and no leaks when revving engine.  But, the car runs
> like
> > shit..super rough with the engine shaking like hell.  Now, the car
> won't even
> > start??  Could I have some bad new iginition parts?  Could my 6
> month old
> > Diamond coil have failed?  Previous to attempting this tune up the
> car ran a
> > little weird with some very slight backfire but it ran great on
> the highway.
> > I don't think its a carb thing.  Valves were checked 3 times.
> I don't get it.
> > Thanks
> > Roy
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> From: Tim
> > <tputland at charter.net>
> > To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
> >
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:22
> PM
> > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
> >
> > I have (as usual)
> nothing new to
> > add. But, I will echo what others have said as well as Paul
> below. And also
> > add that my running issues got worse and worse on my tired
> 1600 as the exhaust
> > leak at the manifold got worse.
> >
> > Still waiting on my
> machinist to finish the
> > head on my stroker. One step forward, two steps
> back.....sigh
> >
> > tim
> >
> >
> > On Wed,
> > Nov 28, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Paul Kort
> wrote:
> >
> >> Even on the race R16s, spinning
> > up to 8000 rpms, we never had a
> timing
> >> chain jump.
> >>
> >>  back to basics,
> > set the valve clearance, set
> the ignition timing, then<
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From graemes at internode.on.net  Mon Dec 10 03:59:20 2012
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:29:20 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters]  1600 tuning issues
In-Reply-To: <50C57A4E.9070105@internode.on.net>
References: <50C57A4E.9070105@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <50C5C088.7080808@internode.on.net>

Something I purchased recently on ebay are a set of four spark indicators.
They fit in series with the spark lead and the spark plug and glow every
time that cylinder gets a spark pulse.
You can use a timing light exactly the same way, albeit one cylinder at
a time to check for a fat healthy spark.
You can also connect a timing light to the centre post of the either the
coil or the distributor cap to check for spark integrity.
Unless your carb. bowls are draining causing a fuel starvation problem
at start up, I would advise checking spark.
Whatever you do, be methodical and new parts do go faulty so don't
ignore those in your diagnosis.
Good luck!

Regards,
Graeme Suckling
http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza
Adelaide
South Australia.

From phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov  Mon Dec 10 05:23:06 2012
From: phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ES11))
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 06:23:06 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
In-Reply-To: <1355113277.4946.YahooMailNeo@web162005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CCEB304A.13056%phillip.b.hall@nasa.gov>

Long shot, but I had bad running issues - I could get it to idle but when I
reved it up, it would sputter badly then shut down.  It was the condenser
wire inside the dizzy.  It looked fine but the wire strands were broken.


On 12/9/12 10:21 PM, "Roy Haslett" <hrhaslett at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Sadly I am still in tuning hell.  I have set the dwell to 52 degrees.
Checked
> all connections that they are clean and tight.   When car ran it was rough
but
> I set the timing to 16 degrees  at 600 rpm and verified the vacuum advance
was
> operating correctly and no leaks when revving engine.  But, the car runs
like
> shit..super rough with the engine shaking like hell.  Now, the car won't
even
> start??  Could I have some bad new iginition parts?  Could my 6 month old
> Diamond coil have failed?  Previous to attempting this tune up the car ran
a
> little weird with some very slight backfire but it ran great on the
highway.
> I don't think its a carb thing.  Valves were checked 3 times.  I don't get
it.
> Thanks
> Roy
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Tim
> <tputland at charter.net>
> To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
>
> I have (as usual) nothing new to
> add. But, I will echo what others have said as well as Paul below. And also
> add that my running issues got worse and worse on my tired 1600 as the
exhaust
> leak at the manifold got worse.
>
> Still waiting on my machinist to finish the
> head on my stroker. One step forward, two steps back.....sigh
>
> tim
>
>
> On Wed,
> Nov 28, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Paul Kort wrote:
>
>> Even on the race R16s, spinning
> up to 8000 rpms, we never had a timing
>> chain jump.
>>
>>   back to basics,
> set the valve clearance, set the ignition timing, then
>> work on the carbs.
>>
>> Paul
>> Ohio
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Pete Peters
> <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> According to Roy, the head was rebuilt
> at 5k; the motor at 20k (was the
>>> timing chain/gears replaced at that
> time?). Engine was running fine up
>>> until
>>> a few hundred miles ago, then
> slowly deteriorated.
>>>
>>> Wouldn't a timing chain jumping be instantly
> noticeable? And, while
>>> possible, has anyone experienced a 1600 timing chain
> jumping? Isn't that
>>> more likely in the OHC engines (U20, L-series)?
>>>
>>>
> My money is on something more simple like floats and/or exhaust/vacuum
>>>
> leaks.
>>>
>>> This has been a fun thread. Eagerly awaiting the resolution!
>>>
>>>
>>> Pete
>> ________________________________________
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From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec 10 08:54:39 2012
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 07:54:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
In-Reply-To: <CCEB304A.13056%phillip.b.hall@nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <1355154879.58670.YahooMailClassic@web181406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I had that same issue with a '72 510 I had in college -- only it died
completely. Wire looked fine on the outside, with no damage to the insulation,
but was broken inside because it stuck up a bit and was whipped by the rotor.

Gary McCormick

--- On Mon, 12/10/12, Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ES11) <phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov>
wrote:

From: Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ES11) <phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
To: "Roy Haslett" <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>, "Tim Putland" <tputland at charter.net>,
"Datsun-Roadsters" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, December 10, 2012, 4:23 AM

Long shot, but I had bad running issues - I could get it to idle but when I
reved it up, it would sputter badly then shut down.  It was the condenser
wire inside the dizzy.  It looked fine but the wire strands were broken.


On 12/9/12 10:21 PM, "Roy Haslett" <hrhaslett at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Sadly I am still in tuning hell.  I have set the dwell to 52 degrees.
Checked
> all connections that they are clean and tight.   When car ran it was rough
but
> I set the timing to 16 degrees  at 600 rpm and verified the vacuum advance
was
> operating correctly and no leaks when revving engine.  But, the car runs
like
> shit..super rough with the engine shaking like hell.  Now, the car won't
even
> start??  Could I have some bad new iginition parts?  Could my 6 month old
> Diamond coil have failed?  Previous to attempting this tune up the car ran
a
> little weird with some very slight backfire but it ran great on the
highway.
> I don't think its a carb thing.  Valves were checked 3 times.  I don't get
it.
> Thanks
> Roy
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Tim
> <tputland at charter.net>
> To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
>
> I have (as usual) nothing new to
> add. But, I will echo what others have said as well as Paul below. And also
> add that my running issues got worse and worse on my tired 1600 as the
exhaust
> leak at the manifold got worse.
>
> Still waiting on my machinist to finish the
> head on my stroker. One step forward, two steps back.....sigh
>
> tim
>
>
> On Wed,
> Nov 28, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Paul Kort wrote:
>
>> Even on the race R16s, spinning
> up to 8000 rpms, we never had a timing
>> chain jump.
>>
>>   back to basics,
> set the valve clearance, set the ignition timing, then
>> work on the carbs.
>>
>> Paul
>> Ohio
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Pete Peters
> <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> According to Roy, the head was rebuilt
> at 5k; the motor at 20k (was the
>>> timing chain/gears replaced at that
> time?). Engine was running fine up
>>> until
>>> a few hundred miles ago, then
> slowly deteriorated.
>>>
>>> Wouldn't a timing chain jumping be instantly
> noticeable? And, while
>>> possible, has anyone experienced a 1600 timing chain
> jumping? Isn't that
>>> more likely in the OHC engines (U20, L-series)?
>>>
>>>
> My money is on something more simple like floats and/or exhaust/vacuum
>>>
> leaks.
>>>
>>> This has been a fun thread. Eagerly awaiting the resolution!
>>>
>>>
>>> Pete
>> ________________________________________
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Mon Dec 10 09:34:19 2012
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 08:34:19 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
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Sent from my iPod

On Dec 10, 2012, at 7:54 AM, Gary McCormick <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I had that same issue with a '72 510 I had in college -- only it died
> completely. Wire looked fine on the outside, with no damage to the
insulation,
> but was broken inside because it stuck up a bit and was whipped by the
rotor.
>
> Gary McCormick
>
> --- On Mon, 12/10/12, Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ES11)
<phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov>
> wrote:
>
> From: Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ES11) <phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
> To: "Roy Haslett" <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>, "Tim Putland"
<tputland at charter.net>,
> "Datsun-Roadsters" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Date: Monday, December 10, 2012, 4:23 AM
>
> Long shot, but I had bad running issues - I could get it to idle but when I
> reved it up, it would sputter badly then shut down.  It was the condenser
> wire inside the dizzy.  It looked fine but the wire strands were broken.
>
>
> On 12/9/12 10:21 PM, "Roy Haslett" <hrhaslett at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Sadly I am still in tuning hell.  I have set the dwell to 52 degrees.
> Checked
>> all connections that they are clean and tight.   When car ran it was rough
> but
>> I set the timing to 16 degrees  at 600 rpm and verified the vacuum advance
> was
>> operating correctly and no leaks when revving engine.  But, the car runs
> like
>> shit..super rough with the engine shaking like hell.  Now, the car won't
> even
>> start??  Could I have some bad new iginition parts?  Could my 6 month old
>> Diamond coil have failed?  Previous to attempting this tune up the car ran
> a
>> little weird with some very slight backfire but it ran great on the
> highway.
>> I don't think its a carb thing.  Valves were checked 3 times.  I don't get
> it.
>> Thanks
>> Roy
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Tim
>> <tputland at charter.net>
>> To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
>> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
>>
>> I have (as usual) nothing new to
>> add. But, I will echo what others have said as well as Paul below. And
also
>> add that my running issues got worse and worse on my tired 1600 as the
> exhaust
>> leak at the manifold got worse.
>>
>> Still waiting on my machinist to finish the
>> head on my stroker. One step forward, two steps back.....sigh
>>
>> tim
>>
>>
>> On Wed,
>> Nov 28, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Paul Kort wrote:
>>
>>> Even on the race R16s, spinning
>> up to 8000 rpms, we never had a timing
>>> chain jump.
>>>
>>>  back to basics,
>> set the valve clearance, set the ignition timing, then
>>> work on the carbs.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>> Ohio
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Pete Peters
>> <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> According to Roy, the head was rebuilt
>> at 5k; the motor at 20k (was the
>>>> timing chain/gears replaced at that
>> time?). Engine was running fine up
>>>> until
>>>> a few hundred miles ago, then
>> slowly deteriorated.
>>>>
>>>> Wouldn't a timing chain jumping be instantly
>> noticeable? And, while
>>>> possible, has anyone experienced a 1600 timing chain
>> jumping? Isn't that
>>>> more likely in the OHC engines (U20, L-series)?
>> My money is on something more simple like floats and/or exhaust/vacuum
>> leaks.
>>>>
>>>> This has been a fun thread. Eagerly awaiting the resolution!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pete
>>> ________________________________________
>> ________________________________________
>>
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Mon Dec 10 10:02:18 2012
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:02:18 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
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Graeme
With the timing light, would you just connect the coil wire as it comes out of
the cap?

Linda

Sent from my iPod

On Dec 10, 2012, at 2:59 AM, Graeme Suckling <graemes at internode.on.net>
wrote:

> Something I purchased recently on ebay are a set of four spark indicators.
> They fit in series with the spark lead and the spark plug and glow every
> time that cylinder gets a spark pulse.
> You can use a timing light exactly the same way, albeit one cylinder at
> a time to check for a fat healthy spark.
> You can also connect a timing light to the centre post of the either the
> coil or the distributor cap to check for spark integrity.
> Unless your carb. bowls are draining causing a fuel starvation problem
> at start up, I would advise checking spark.
> Whatever you do, be methodical and new parts do go faulty so don't
> ignore those in your diagnosis.
> Good luck!
>
> Regards,
> Graeme Suckling
> http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza
> Adelaide
> South Australia.
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From hrhaslett at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 10 14:02:52 2012
From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 13:02:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
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References: <50C57A4E.9070105@internode.on.net>
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OK,
I pulled the coil wire off the cap and arced to the valve cover nut. 
Spark- Yes, but it doesn't look very good.  Color is white to yellow/orange. 
Shouldn't I get a nice big blue arc?  



________________________________
From: Linda J <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
To: Graeme Suckling
<graemes at internode.on.net> 
Cc: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net"
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
 
Graeme
With the timing light,
would you just connect the coil wire as it comes out of
the cap?

Linda

Sent
from my iPod

On Dec 10, 2012, at 2:59 AM, Graeme Suckling
<graemes at internode.on.net>
wrote:

> Something I purchased recently on ebay
are a set of four spark indicators.
> They fit in series with the spark lead
and the spark plug and glow every
> time that cylinder gets a spark pulse.
>
You can use a timing light exactly the same way, albeit one cylinder at
> a
time to check for a fat healthy spark.
> You can also connect a timing light
to the centre post of the either the
> coil or the distributor cap to check
for spark integrity.
> Unless your carb. bowls are draining causing a fuel
starvation problem
> at start up, I would advise checking spark.
> Whatever
you do, be methodical and new parts do go faulty so don't
> ignore those in
your diagnosis.
> Good luck!
>
> Regards,
> Graeme Suckling
>
http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza
> Adelaide
> South Australia.
>
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From pat at hornesystemstx.com  Mon Dec 10 14:30:50 2012
From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:30:50 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
In-Reply-To: <1355173372.84859.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <50C57A4E.9070105@internode.on.net>
	<50C5C088.7080808@internode.on.net>
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Verify the two wires on the coil. If the wires are backwards the spark 
won't be as strong and the wrong polarity. What year is your car? If is 
68 or later the ignition switch has a ballast bypass switch in it that 
will increase the voltage for starting.

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Roy Haslett

> OK,
> I pulled the coil wire off the cap and arced to the valve cover nut.
> Spark- Yes, but it doesn't look very good.  Color is white to yellow/orange.
> Shouldn't I get a nice big blue arc?
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Linda J <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
> To: Graeme Suckling
> <graemes at internode.on.net>
> Cc: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net"
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 9:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
>   
> Graeme
> With the timing light,
> would you just connect the coil wire as it comes out of
> the cap?
>
> Linda
>
> Sent
> from my iPod
>
> On Dec 10, 2012, at 2:59 AM, Graeme Suckling
> <graemes at internode.on.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Something I purchased recently on ebay
> are a set of four spark indicators.
>> They fit in series with the spark lead
> and the spark plug and glow every
>> time that cylinder gets a spark pulse.
>>
> You can use a timing light exactly the same way, albeit one cylinder at
>> a
> time to check for a fat healthy spark.
>> You can also connect a timing light
> to the centre post of the either the
>> coil or the distributor cap to check
> for spark integrity.
>> Unless your carb. bowls are draining causing a fuel
> starvation problem
>> at start up, I would advise checking spark.
>> Whatever
> you do, be methodical and new parts do go faulty so don't
>> ignore those in
> your diagnosis.
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Graeme Suckling
>>
> http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza
>> Adelaide
>> South Australia.
>>
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From graemes at internode.on.net  Mon Dec 10 15:59:01 2012
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:29:01 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
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References: <50C57A4E.9070105@internode.on.net>
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Spark should be a real crack and bright blue.
The timing light can be connected anywhere in the HT circuit [High 
Tension] and the other end of the light can be either earthed [grounded] 
or connected to the next point in the circuit.
e.g. lift a plug lead and the TL connects between the plug and the lead, 
lift the centre cap lead and connect the TL between the cap terminal and 
the lead etc.
Grounding the TL will render the HT circuit incomplete from the engine's 
point of view whereas putting the TL in series with the components will 
allow the engine to continue running, if it has no other issues :-(

Regards,
Graeme Suckling
http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza
Adelaide
South Australia.

On 11/12/2012 7:32 AM, Roy Haslett wrote:
> OK,
> I pulled the coil wire off the cap and arced to the valve cover nut.  
> Spark- Yes, but it doesn't look very good.  Color is white to 
> yellow/orange.  Shouldn't I get a nice big blue arc?
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Linda J <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
> *To:* Graeme Suckling <graemes at internode.on.net>
> *Cc:* "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 10, 2012 9:02 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
>
> Graeme
> With the timing light, would you just connect the coil wire as it 
> comes out of
> the cap?
>
> Linda
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On Dec 10, 2012, at 2:59 AM, Graeme Suckling <graemes at internode.on.net 
> <mailto:graemes at internode.on.net>>
> wrote:
>
> > Something I purchased recently on ebay are a set of four spark 
> indicators.
> > They fit in series with the spark lead and the spark plug and glow every
> > time that cylinder gets a spark pulse.
> > You can use a timing light exactly the same way, albeit one cylinder at
> > a time to check for a fat healthy spark.
> > You can also connect a timing light to the centre post of the either the
> > coil or the distributor cap to check for spark integrity.
> > Unless your carb. bowls are draining causing a fuel starvation problem
> > at start up, I would advise checking spark.
> > Whatever you do, be methodical and new parts do go faulty so don't
> > ignore those in your diagnosis.
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Graeme Suckling
> > http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza
> > Adelaide
> > South Australia.
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> >
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From datsunpartsdotcom at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 10 18:36:48 2012
From: datsunpartsdotcom at yahoo.com (DatsunParts.com, Inc.)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:36:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Holiday Gift Ideas 3 Days Left To Purchase
Message-ID: <1355189808.94837.YahooMailNeo@web125701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

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www.datsunparts.com/1780 68-70 1600 & 2000 Shift Boot retaining ring
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From cehubbard at verizon.net  Tue Dec 11 08:17:44 2012
From: cehubbard at verizon.net (Charles Hubbard)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:17:44 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Scion FR-S
Message-ID: <012f01cdd7b2$ab7b0890$027119b0$@net>

I knew this car (Scion FR-S) looked familiar!  Does anyone remember the Opal
GT?  You guys may think not, but to me there is a strong resemblance,
especially for a car that was last made in 1973. 
 
Respectfully,
 
Charlie Hubbard

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Tue Dec 11 09:04:39 2012
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (dave n)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:04:39 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Scion FR-S
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I think I remember the Ruby GT . . .  or was it an Amethyst GT?


I knew this car (Scion FR-S) looked familiar!  Does anyone remember the Opal
GT?  You guys may think not, but to me there is a strong resemblance,
especially for a car that was last made in 1973. 

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Tue Dec 11 09:17:52 2012
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:17:52 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Anyone have a spare shift lever spring for a 5 speed
	box??
Message-ID: <SNT106-W13A33B5F96F5E006CCC285DF480@phx.gbl>

Took the shifter springs out(the ones that are at the rear of the transmission
- that center the shift lever) and one of the springs was broken.
Anyone have a spare?? or have an idea as to that to replace it with.
Thanks.

Peter Harrison
818 448 3181

From pat at hornesystemstx.com  Tue Dec 11 10:38:48 2012
From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:38:48 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Spam
Message-ID: <50C76FA8.7040309@hornesystemstx.com>

Ever since we got hit by the porn folks, I have been receiving about 10 
emails a day, from suicide intervention groups, sales of different 
stuff, etc. Am I the only one, or is everyone who received the porn 
stuff from Germany getting this stuff?

Peace,
Pat

From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Tue Dec 11 10:51:27 2012
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:51:27 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Spam
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Hey Pat,

I get some, but the gmail spam filters seem to get almost all of it. I
usually only see it scanning through my Spam folder before I empty it.

RD

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> Ever since we got hit by the porn folks, I have been receiving about 10
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> Germany getting this stuff?
>
> Peace,
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From gregs672liter at netzero.com  Tue Dec 11 12:18:05 2012
From: gregs672liter at netzero.com (gregs672liter at netzero.com)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:18:05 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
Message-ID: <20121211.111805.5678.0@webmail08.vgs.untd.com>

Are the carbs balanced?  Shaking motor suggests they are not, could be an
intake leak too. Best done with a balancer.  Spark confirmed on EVERY plug?
Compression check?  Does it run better or normal if you spray starter fluid
lightly in front of the carbs (adding "fuel" to see if it's a fuel supply
issue).
Greg
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Roy Haslett <hrhaslett at yahoo.com>
To: Tim <tputland at charter.net>, "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net"
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 20:21:17 -0800 (PST)

Sadly I am still in tuning hell.  I have set the dwell to 52 degrees.
Checked
all connections that they are clean and tight.   When car ran it was rough
but
I set the timing to 16 degrees  at 600 rpm and verified the vacuum advance
was
operating correctly and no leaks when revving engine.  But, the car runs like
shit..super rough with the engine shaking like hell.  Now, the car won't even
start??  Could I have some bad new iginition parts?  Could my 6 month old
Diamond coil have failed?  Previous to attempting this tune up the car ran a
little weird with some very slight backfire but it ran great on the highway.
I don't think its a carb thing.  Valves were checked 3 times.  I don't get
it.
Thanks
Roy



________________________________
 From: Tim
<tputland at charter.net>
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 tuning issues

I have (as usual) nothing new to
add. But, I will echo what others have said as well as Paul below. And also
add that my running issues got worse and worse on my tired 1600 as the
exhaust
leak at the manifold got worse.

Still waiting on my machinist to finish the
head on my stroker. One step forward, two steps back.....sigh

tim


On Wed,
Nov 28, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Paul Kort wrote:

> Even on the race R16s, spinning
up to 8000 rpms, we never had a timing
> chain jump.
>
>   back to basics,
set the valve clearance, set the ignition timing, then
> work on the carbs.
>
> Paul
> Ohio
>
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Pete Peters
<ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> According to Roy, the head was rebuilt
at 5k; the motor at 20k (was the
>> timing chain/gears replaced at that
time?). Engine was running fine up
>> until
>> a few hundred miles ago, then
slowly deteriorated.
>>
>> Wouldn't a timing chain jumping be instantly
noticeable? And, while
>> possible, has anyone experienced a 1600 timing chain
jumping? Isn't that
>> more likely in the OHC engines (U20, L-series)?
>>
>>
My money is on something more simple like floats and/or exhaust/vacuum
>>
leaks.
>>
>> This has been a fun thread. Eagerly awaiting the resolution!
>>
>>
>> Pete
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From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Tue Dec 11 12:50:56 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:50:56 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Scion FR-S
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  I had an Opel GT, but sold it to keep my roadster.  It was a fun car to
drive, but awfully hot in the summer.  And that's why I bought the roadster!

Paul
Ohio

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Charles Hubbard <cehubbard at verizon.net>wrote:

> I knew this car (Scion FR-S) looked familiar!  Does anyone remember the
> Opal
> GT?  You guys may think not, but to me there is a strong resemblance,
> especially for a car that was last made in 1973.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Charlie Hubbard
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From phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov  Tue Dec 11 12:53:53 2012
From: phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ES11))
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:53:53 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Scion FR-S
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Ha - I agree!  It does have the Opel GT flavor.  This was the first car I
put a brake job on as a paid mechanic - way back in the day.  Used to call
them the "mini-Vette"


On 12/11/12 1:50 PM, "Paul Kort" <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com> wrote:

>   I had an Opel GT, but sold it to keep my roadster.  It was a fun car to
> drive, but awfully hot in the summer.  And that's why I bought the
roadster!
>
> Paul
> Ohio
>
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Charles Hubbard
> <cehubbard at verizon.net>wrote:
>
>> I knew this car (Scion FR-S) looked familiar!  Does anyone remember the
>> Opal
>> GT?  You guys may think not, but to me there is a strong resemblance,
>> especially for a car that was last made in 1973.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> Charlie Hubbard
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>>
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From etroxel at gmail.com  Wed Dec 12 17:25:49 2012
From: etroxel at gmail.com (Evan Troxel)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 16:25:49 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: 510 windshield
Message-ID: <1450147D-C6D9-4CB6-8B92-AB455765D381@gmail.com>

Hi all,

Does anyone have a windshield for a 510 for sale? I told a friend I'd ask.

Thanks,

Evan

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Dec 12 17:58:36 2012
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 00:58:36 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: 510 windshield
Message-ID: <366591478-1355360318-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1633033790-@b4.c20.bise6.blackberry>

I can ask on the Bluebirds list, but first:

Location?
Year?

Pete
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Hi all,

Does anyone have a windshield for a 510 for sale? I told a friend I'd ask.

Thanks,

Evan
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From futofab at gsinet.net  Thu Dec 13 05:16:09 2012
From: futofab at gsinet.net (David Patten)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 07:16:09 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: 510 windshield
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Evan,
Have him contact Richard Tankel at ProSource Glass in Andover, MA..

I've bought 510 windshields from him in the past.

ProSource Glass International
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And if your buddy needs anything else 510 related, have him email me. I'd
be more than happy to try and help him.
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On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 7:58 PM, <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:

> I can ask on the Bluebirds list, but first:
>
> Location?
> Year?
>
> Pete
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>
> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone have a windshield for a 510 for sale? I told a friend I'd ask.
>
> Thanks,
>
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From etroxel at gmail.com  Thu Dec 13 10:05:06 2012
From: etroxel at gmail.com (Evan Troxel)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:05:06 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: 510 windshield
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I believe it's a '69. Upland, CA.

Thanks!


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> I can ask on the Bluebirds list, but first:
>
> Location?
> Year?
>
> Pete
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> Does anyone have a windshield for a 510 for sale? I told a friend I'd ask.
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From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 13 13:14:55 2012
From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 12:14:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Running after ignition switched off
Message-ID: <1355429695.43727.YahooMailClassic@web124902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I am getting too old!  I had this happen (car keeps running after ignition
switch turned off) several years ago, and after replcing the switch (hint -
that was NOT the problem), I finally solved the problem and felt silly for not
finding the cause earlier.  Guess what - I cannot now remember what it was!!!
 
I have a friend who is hving that same problem,and I told him, sure, mine did
that and it was .......(damn, I cannot now remember WHAT it was).    HELP AN
OLD MAN>>>>>


Mike Harper, CAI, AARE
Harper Auction & Realty
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From tputland at charter.net  Thu Dec 13 13:22:44 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 15:22:44 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Running after ignition switched off
Message-ID: <43d46949.1136fa.13b95eef8e4.Webtop.48@charter.net>

I can't help but I can anticipate a question from those who can help....

It is staying running (as it running/idling) or is it dieseling (sp?)? I 
believe these would be two different forms of "running".

Replies to the list please all!
thanks
tim


On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Mike Harper wrote:

> I am getting too old!  I had this happen (car keeps running after 
> ignition
> switch turned off) several years ago, and after replcing the switch 
> (hint -
> that was NOT the problem), I finally solved the problem and felt silly 
> for not
> finding the cause earlier.  Guess what - I cannot now remember what it 
> was!!!
>  I have a friend who is hving that same problem,and I told him, sure, 
> mine did
> that and it was .......(damn, I cannot now remember WHAT it was). 
> HELP AN
> OLD MAN>>>>>
>
>
> Mike Harper, CAI, AARE
> Harper Auction & Realty
> 843-729-4996
> "Experience Sells"
>
> www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET

From pat at hornesystemstx.com  Thu Dec 13 13:58:13 2012
From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 14:58:13 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Running after ignition switched off
In-Reply-To: <1355429695.43727.YahooMailClassic@web124902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1355429695.43727.YahooMailClassic@web124902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <50CA4165.3020704@hornesystemstx.com>

Depends on how long it runs on.

I had that problem long ago when my ammeter was bypassed. The connection 
between the two ammeter leads was not good. When I corrected this 
problem the run on quit.

What year is you car? My 67.5 has quick connect terminals for the 
ammeter that get hot and loose their tension over the years, causing 
connection problems. I replaced the terminals with ring terminals and 
the problem went away.

Could also be carboned up combustion chambers causing dieseling.

Peace,
Pat
Thusly spake Mike Harper

> I am getting too old!  I had this happen (car keeps running after ignition
> switch turned off) several years ago, and after replcing the switch (hint -
> that was NOT the problem), I finally solved the problem and felt silly for not
> finding the cause earlier.  Guess what - I cannot now remember what it was!!!
>   
> I have a friend who is hving that same problem,and I told him, sure, mine did
> that and it was .......(damn, I cannot now remember WHAT it was).    HELP AN
> OLD MAN>>>>>
>
>
> Mike Harper, CAI, AARE
> Harper Auction & Realty
> 843-729-4996
> "Experience Sells"
>
> www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET
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From hrhaslett at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 13 14:54:36 2012
From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:54:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Setting ignition points on 67 1600
Message-ID: <1355435676.53944.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Hi All,
I want to know if I should be positioning the engine and/or
distributor at a particular position prior to gapping the points.  I know that
I need to rotate the engine until the points are on the high part of one of
the lobes on the distributor, but where should the distributor be as we can
loosen the retaining screw and twist left or right to adjust.  I am
experiencing a terrible running car with backfiring out the carbs and I think
I need to start over at the points.
Thanks
Roy

From boakes at gmail.com  Thu Dec 13 15:01:38 2012
From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:01:38 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Napa Valley Roadsters, on Pertolicious.com
Message-ID: <CAKQAAtOSCwe9HzPf0eNyikTgAcLrr95htkh+_o-JOsDo4KA1ow@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone we know?

http://www.petrolicious.com/articles/sneak-peek-napa-valley-roadsters

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Thu Dec 13 15:05:48 2012
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 14:05:48 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Running after ignition switched off
In-Reply-To: <1355429695.43727.YahooMailClassic@web124902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1355429695.43727.YahooMailClassic@web124902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <F74890C9-DC32-4EC8-8AC4-961DF475EDAB@netscape.net>

I had that happen. Here's what it was. The ignition module had the back rotate
such that contacts and what mot inside were not where they were supposed to
be. So take the whole thing out and make sure the housing lines up with the
tiny notch(es) in the backside. It is not supposed to rotate but it can. Once
I figured it out the continuous running stopped.

Linda

Sent from my iPod

On Dec 13, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Mike Harper <roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I am getting too old!  I had this happen (car keeps running after ignition
> switch turned off) several years ago, and after replcing the switch (hint -
> that was NOT the problem), I finally solved the problem and felt silly for
not
> finding the cause earlier.  Guess what - I cannot now remember what it
was!!!
>
> I have a friend who is hving that same problem,and I told him, sure, mine
did
> that and it was .......(damn, I cannot now remember WHAT it was).    HELP
AN
> OLD MAN>>>>>
>
>
> Mike Harper, CAI, AARE
> Harper Auction & Realty
> 843-729-4996
> "Experience Sells"
>
> www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET
>
>
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From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Thu Dec 13 15:06:20 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:06:20 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] '65 310 FS in South Carolina
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEtQwz04UM8hizp2Zux963=Ro-UoTzKsoorLhFKS_jh+HA@mail.gmail.com>

  Not mine, and I don't know anything about it, but I don't think it has
been advertised yet.
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

I got a 1965 Datsun Fairlady SPL310 1500cc low windshield I need to sell *
ASAP*.
needs wire harness but does run and drive; its hot wired to the battery
right now.
good GA title.   asking $3200 OBO.  located in SC near Clemson

864-613-4184
http://www.1147cc.com/sell/fairlady/


Douglas A. Hansen
www.1147cc.com

From mark at bradakis.com  Thu Dec 13 15:09:48 2012
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 15:09:48 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Setting ignition points on 67 1600
In-Reply-To: <1355435676.53944.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1355435676.53944.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <50CA522C.4090001@bradakis.com>

I'd leave the distributor as is, set the points, then loosen it, start 
the car and move
it a few degrees in each direction to see if the behavior changes.

mjb.

From graemes at internode.on.net  Thu Dec 13 15:21:30 2012
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:51:30 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] Setting ignition points on 67 1600
In-Reply-To: <1355435676.53944.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1355435676.53944.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <50CA54EA.2060609@internode.on.net>

For gapping the points, you have described the correct method, points on 
the peak of the cam.
That will set the dwell, the number of degrees that the points are 
closed, which is independent of the ignition timing.
You can static set the timing by rotating the engine to the number of 
degrees BTDC that is recommended and then rotating the dist. BODY to 
open the points. Try to use cylinder #1 on compression stroke for this 
exercise since that is the most convenient reference. Use either a 12V 
test lamp or Volt meter to determine exactly when the points open.
Tighten the dist. clamping bolts and now you should be able to start the 
engine and fine tune the timing at the correct revs and deg. BTDC using 
a timing light.
Make sure all the points mounting and electrical connection screws are 
tight so that the timing and spark are reliable.
Sent from my desk top clunker since that is all I have :)

Regards,
Graeme Suckling
http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza
Adelaide
South Australia.

On 14/12/2012 8:24 AM, Roy Haslett wrote:
> Hi All,
> I want to know if I should be positioning the engine and/or
> distributor at a particular position prior to gapping the points.  I know that
> I need to rotate the engine until the points are on the high part of one of
> the lobes on the distributor, but where should the distributor be as we can
> loosen the retaining screw and twist left or right to adjust.  I am
> experiencing a terrible running car with backfiring out the carbs and I think
> I need to start over at the points.
> Thanks
> Roy
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Thu Dec 13 17:09:09 2012
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:09:09 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Setting ignition points on 67 1600
In-Reply-To: <1355435676.53944.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1355435676.53944.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SNT106-W24CB379A70598074F610A5DF4D0@phx.gbl>

IMHO - you need to start at the distributor - by going electronic - pertronix
is good - but EI dizzy is best - set and then forget.
If no-one chimes i n here - check 311s - there HAS to be a thread on this
subject.
Good luck

Peter Harrison
818 448 3181


> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:54:36 -0800
> From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] Setting ignition points on 67 1600
>
> Hi All,
> I want to know if I should be positioning the engine and/or
> distributor at a particular position prior to gapping the points.  I know
that
> I need to rotate the engine until the points are on the high part of one of
> the lobes on the distributor, but where should the distributor be as we can
> loosen the retaining screw and twist left or right to adjust.  I am
> experiencing a terrible running car with backfiring out the carbs and I
think
> I need to start over at the points.
> Thanks
> Roy
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From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 13 17:20:00 2012
From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:20:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Running after ignition switched off
In-Reply-To: <50CA4165.3020704@hornesystemstx.com>
Message-ID: <1355444400.88119.YahooMailClassic@web124904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

His car (and mine) are both '66.  Thanks for the tip.  We will check those
connections.


Mike Harper, CAI, AARE
Harper Auction & Realty
843-729-4996
"Experience Sells"

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--- On Thu, 12/13/12, Pat Horne <pat at hornesystemstx.com> wrote:


From: Pat Horne <pat at hornesystemstx.com>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Running after ignition switched off
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Date: Thursday, December 13, 2012, 3:58 PM


Depends on how long it runs on.

I had that problem long ago when my ammeter was bypassed. The connection
between the two ammeter leads was not good. When I corrected this problem the
run on quit.

What year is you car? My 67.5 has quick connect terminals for the ammeter that
get hot and loose their tension over the years, causing connection problems. I
replaced the terminals with ring terminals and the problem went away.

Could also be carboned up combustion chambers causing dieseling.

Peace,
Pat

From hrhaslett at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 13 20:33:34 2012
From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 19:33:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Setting ignition points on 67 1600
In-Reply-To: <50CA54EA.2060609@internode.on.net>
References: <1355435676.53944.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<50CA54EA.2060609@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <1355456014.31186.YahooMailNeo@web162006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

I have reset the points/timing.  For others this is how I did it according to
the manual and from others suggestions.
I gapped the points at full opening to
.019.  I then, with the engine off, turned the crank til the pointer on the
front cover points to 10 BTDC with the rotor pointing at #1. This is per the
manual.  I then loosened the hold down screw on the distributor and turned it
til the points just break (using a volt meter with light.  when the light just
comes on) Tighten down the hold down screw.  replace rotor and cap, start
car.  fine adjust timing if needed by twisting distributor
So my car still
runs rough.  I used a Uni Sync to adjust the carbs idle screw and balance the
air flow.
Car still runs rough.  With the service screw turned up to idle the
car at 2,000 I, one by one, pulled the plug wires. AHA!  Plugs 4 and 3 when
pulled caused rougher idle.  I checked spark from the plug wire.  Good. 
Pulled wires off #2 and #1, NO CHANGE to how the car idles.  I checked spark
from the wires. Good.  I pulled gas line off the carbs and turned the engine
over, gas shoots out fine.  So, What do I do now???  It appears an obvious
fuel starvation to cylinders 1 and 2.  I have not touched the fuel/air mixture
screw on the bottom of either carb.





________________________________
From: Graeme Suckling <graemes at internode.on.net>
To:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net 
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Setting ignition points on 67 1600
 
For gapping the
points, you have described the correct method, points on the peak of the cam.
That will set the dwell, the number of degrees that the points are closed,
which is independent of the ignition timing.
You can static set the timing by
rotating the engine to the number of degrees BTDC that is recommended and then
rotating the dist. BODY to open the points. Try to use cylinder #1 on
compression stroke for this exercise since that is the most convenient
reference. Use either a 12V test lamp or Volt meter to determine exactly when
the points open.
Tighten the dist. clamping bolts and now you should be able
to start the engine and fine tune the timing at the correct revs and deg. BTDC
using a timing light.
Make sure all the points mounting and electrical
connection screws are tight so that the timing and spark are reliable.
Sent
from my desk top clunker since that is all I have :)

Regards,
Graeme Suckling
http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza
Adelaide
South Australia.

On 14/12/2012 8:24 AM,
Roy Haslett wrote:
> Hi All,
> I want to know if I should be positioning the
engine and/or
> distributor at a particular position prior to gapping the
points.  I know that
> I need to rotate the engine until the points are on the
high part of one of
> the lobes on the distributor, but where should the
distributor be as we can
> loosen the retaining screw and twist left or right
to adjust.  I am
> experiencing a terrible running car with backfiring out the
carbs and I think
> I need to start over at the points.
> Thanks
> Roy
>
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From hrhaslett at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 13 20:33:34 2012
From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 19:33:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Setting ignition points on 67 1600
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I have reset the points/timing.  For others this is how I did it according to
the manual and from others suggestions.
I gapped the points at full opening to
.019.  I then, with the engine off, turned the crank til the pointer on the
front cover points to 10 BTDC with the rotor pointing at #1. This is per the
manual.  I then loosened the hold down screw on the distributor and turned it
til the points just break (using a volt meter with light.  when the light just
comes on) Tighten down the hold down screw.  replace rotor and cap, start
car.  fine adjust timing if needed by twisting distributor
So my car still
runs rough.  I used a Uni Sync to adjust the carbs idle screw and balance the
air flow.
Car still runs rough.  With the service screw turned up to idle the
car at 2,000 I, one by one, pulled the plug wires. AHA!  Plugs 4 and 3 when
pulled caused rougher idle.  I checked spark from the plug wire.  Good. 
Pulled wires off #2 and #1, NO CHANGE to how the car idles.  I checked spark
from the wires. Good.  I pulled gas line off the carbs and turned the engine
over, gas shoots out fine.  So, What do I do now???  It appears an obvious
fuel starvation to cylinders 1 and 2.  I have not touched the fuel/air mixture
screw on the bottom of either carb.





________________________________
From: Graeme Suckling <graemes at internode.on.net>
To:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net 
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Setting ignition points on 67 1600
 
For gapping the
points, you have described the correct method, points on the peak of the cam.
That will set the dwell, the number of degrees that the points are closed,
which is independent of the ignition timing.
You can static set the timing by
rotating the engine to the number of degrees BTDC that is recommended and then
rotating the dist. BODY to open the points. Try to use cylinder #1 on
compression stroke for this exercise since that is the most convenient
reference. Use either a 12V test lamp or Volt meter to determine exactly when
the points open.
Tighten the dist. clamping bolts and now you should be able
to start the engine and fine tune the timing at the correct revs and deg. BTDC
using a timing light.
Make sure all the points mounting and electrical
connection screws are tight so that the timing and spark are reliable.
Sent
from my desk top clunker since that is all I have :)

Regards,
Graeme Suckling
http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza
Adelaide
South Australia.

On 14/12/2012 8:24 AM,
Roy Haslett wrote:
> Hi All,
> I want to know if I should be positioning the
engine and/or
> distributor at a particular position prior to gapping the
points.  I know that
> I need to rotate the engine until the points are on the
high part of one of
> the lobes on the distributor, but where should the
distributor be as we can
> loosen the retaining screw and twist left or right
to adjust.  I am
> experiencing a terrible running car with backfiring out the
carbs and I think
> I need to start over at the points.
> Thanks
> Roy
>
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From graemes at internode.on.net  Thu Dec 13 21:15:36 2012
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:45:36 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] Setting ignition points on 67 1600
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Ahhhhhh!
It's the old no fuel to #1 and #2 trick eh!
Your diagnoses is spot on and methodical.
Gold star with oak leaves and cluster is your rank :-)
I would have a look at the gauze filter on the inlet of the offending 
float bowl, maybe blocked?
Also check the float valve on that bowl the needle valve may be glued 
closed.
Either or, you now know where the issue lies and have learned a few 
things on the way;-)

Regards,
Graeme Suckling
http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza
Adelaide
South Australia.

On 14/12/2012 2:03 PM, Roy Haslett wrote:
> I have reset the points/timing.  For others this is how I did it 
> according to the manual and from others suggestions.
> I gapped the points at full opening to .019.  I then, with the engine 
> off, turned the crank til the pointer on the front cover points to 10 
> BTDC with the rotor pointing at #1. This is per the manual.  I then 
> loosened the hold down screw on the distributor and turned it til the 
> points just break (using a volt meter with light.  when the light just 
> comes on) Tighten down the hold down screw.  replace rotor and cap, 
> start car.  fine adjust timing if needed by twisting distributor
> So my car still runs rough.  I used a Uni Sync to adjust the carbs 
> idle screw and balance the air flow.
> Car still runs rough.  With the service screw turned up to idle the 
> car at 2,000 I, one by one, pulled the plug wires. AHA! Plugs 4 and 3 
> when pulled caused rougher idle.  I checked spark from the plug wire.  
> Good.  Pulled wires off #2 and #1, NO CHANGE to how the car idles.  I 
> checked spark from the wires. Good.  I pulled gas line off the carbs 
> and turned the engine over, gas shoots out fine.  So, What do I do 
> now???  It appears an obvious fuel starvation to cylinders 1 and 2.  I 
> have not touched the fuel/air mixture screw on the bottom of either carb.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Graeme Suckling <graemes at internode.on.net>
> *To:* datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2012 2:21 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Roadsters] Setting ignition points on 67 1600
>
> For gapping the points, you have described the correct method, points 
> on the peak of the cam.
> That will set the dwell, the number of degrees that the points are 
> closed, which is independent of the ignition timing.
> You can static set the timing by rotating the engine to the number of 
> degrees BTDC that is recommended and then rotating the dist. BODY to 
> open the points. Try to use cylinder #1 on compression stroke for this 
> exercise since that is the most convenient reference. Use either a 12V 
> test lamp or Volt meter to determine exactly when the points open.
> Tighten the dist. clamping bolts and now you should be able to start 
> the engine and fine tune the timing at the correct revs and deg. BTDC 
> using a timing light.
> Make sure all the points mounting and electrical connection screws are 
> tight so that the timing and spark are reliable.
> Sent from my desk top clunker since that is all I have :)
>
> Regards,
> Graeme Suckling
> http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza
> Adelaide
> South Australia.
>
> On 14/12/2012 8:24 AM, Roy Haslett wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > I want to know if I should be positioning the engine and/or
> > distributor at a particular position prior to gapping the points.  I 
> know that
> > I need to rotate the engine until the points are on the high part of 
> one of
> > the lobes on the distributor, but where should the distributor be as 
> we can
> > loosen the retaining screw and twist left or right to adjust.  I am
> > experiencing a terrible running car with backfiring out the carbs 
> and I think
> > I need to start over at the points.
> > Thanks
> > Roy
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> >
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From mhatch at ics.com  Fri Dec 14 07:29:33 2012
From: mhatch at ics.com (Mark Hatch)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 06:29:33 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 4, Issue 353
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 12:14:55 -0800 (PST)
> From: Mike Harper <roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com>
> To: Datsun Roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Roadsters] Running after ignition switched off
> Message-ID:
> 	<1355429695.43727.YahooMailClassic at web124902.mail.ne1.yahoo.c
> om>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I am getting too old!  I had this happen (car keeps running after
ignition switch
> turned off) several years ago, and after replcing the switch (hint -
that was NOT
> the problem), I finally solved the problem and felt silly for not
finding the cause
> earlier.  Guess what - I cannot now remember what it was!!!
>
> I have a friend who is hving that same problem,and I told him, sure,
mine did
> that and it was .......(damn, I cannot now remember WHAT it was).
HELP AN
> OLD MAN>>>>>
>
>
> Mike Harper, CAI, AARE
> Harper Auction & Realty
> 843-729-4996
> "Experience Sells"
>
> www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET
>
>
>
*****
[MJH>] I created this problem recently when I tried to reconnect my backup
lights on my '69. Turned off the key, withdrew the key and the engine
continued to run. Figured out that there must be some short (probably thru
the hazard light). Disconnected the backup harness bullet connections in
the engine compartment and it behaved again.

Mark

From cehubbard at verizon.net  Fri Dec 14 07:34:03 2012
From: cehubbard at verizon.net (Charles Hubbard)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:34:03 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] 1964 SPL310 radio
Message-ID: <A15E39AF-5ED6-48B6-8CCD-E3FA9887D3D6@verizon.net>

I have what may be an original positive ground radio for my 1964 1500.  It is
made by Fleetwood, Model C-200. Can someone confirm it? I was told that it is
broken but it will fill the hole in my console.   I am also looking for a set
of knobs and a faceplate as well  as a picture of the front of the OEM radio.

Charlie Hubbard

From svedise at hotmail.com  Sat Dec 15 12:02:28 2012
From: svedise at hotmail.com (Jim Svedise)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:02:28 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] U20 head work
Message-ID: <BLU152-DS689D70E81A102C497BEF1B44C0@phx.gbl>

Anyone know of a good shop between Tucson and Nogales Az. to have new guides
and valve install at?

Thanks in Advance,
Jim
__________________________________
Living The Good Life South Of The Border

From stevenehlers at charter.net  Sun Dec 16 22:35:23 2012
From: stevenehlers at charter.net (stevenehlers at charter.net)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 00:35:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 4, Issue 356
Message-ID: <11a89c1e.2753d9.13ba75c046d.Webtop.46@charter.net>

Hey Jim ,
   Besides valves and guides ,if you need them ,It is New Steel Intake 
valve seats you need in these heads ,if the
stock brass ones are still in it . They need to be cut with at least 3 
angles and 4 preferred ,if the replacement seat is wide enough, while 
doing the valve job .

  The bowl areas behind the seat need proper blending and a performance 
gain will be the result .
Of course there are other areas of Head work a used U-20 head may need 
in addition to the basic valve work .

This additional nec or optional work ,may need to be done after a person 
that is  Knowledgeable about Roadster heads , inspects and checks yours 
out .
That search will need to lead you to that person .  Good luck finding a 
shop in AZ., since mines in Texas ,I assumed you
didn't want to ship it .
Regards,
Steve
www.risingsunperformance.com <http://www.risingsunperformance.com>


> Today's Topics:
>
>    1. U20 head work (Jim Svedise)
>
> Anyone know of a good shop between Tucson and Nogales Az. to have new 
> guides
> and valve install at?
>
> Thanks in Advance,
> Jim

From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Mon Dec 17 06:34:36 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 08:34:36 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun t-shirts
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEt2vovKyLUgaes-9iHEZ69YbzvdsYbkKkpucBEKjcUbyA@mail.gmail.com>

  Below is a note from Ted.  He has been a good Datsun guy since the days
of the Ohio Roadster Owners Club back in the early '90s.  He has a
traveling store that sells all kinds of car goodies, from flags and
t-shirts, to torque reduction starters.  He usually hits the big vintage
races so you may have met Ted at the Mitty, or MidOhio, or Watkins Glen.
I have the photos he sent of the t-shirts that I can forward, or if
somebody has a good spot to post them, let me know.

Paul
Ohio

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Ted Schumacher <tedtsimx at bright.net>

Paul,
   Attached are pics of 2 Datsun shirts + we can redo the "Roadster Road
Test" shirt if we have enough orders. I do not have one to photo. Do you or
someone we know have one? Datsun t's, small left chest front print and
large back print are $15. BRE is $20 .Volume discounts for multi-shirt
order such a as club, etc. Just need to ship to a single address.

Ted

-------- Original Message --------  Subject: Fairlady for sale  Date: Thu,
13 Dec 2012 13:03:11 -0500  From: Douglas A. Hansen
<Spitfire4 at 1147cc.com><Spitfire4 at 1147cc.com>  To:
TSI <tedtsimx at bright.net> <tedtsimx at bright.net>

Ted

I got a 1965 Datsun Fairlady SPL310 1500cc low windshield I need to sell *
ASAP*.
needs wire harness but does run and drive; its hot wired to the battery
right now.
good GA title.   asking $3200 OBO.  located in SC near Clemson

864-613-4184
http://www.1147cc.com/sell/fairlady/


Douglas A. Hansen
www.1147cc.com

From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Mon Dec 17 09:05:41 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:05:41 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Ted's t-shirt photos!
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEtC3E4GS+K1HGnXd9dJ9Mn11y6Kb9=Qp-pTLQKojb5s8g@mail.gmail.com>

  Here is a link to the t-shirt photos from Ted, curtesey of Chis-o-Maine!

http://chrisofmaine.smugmug.com/Cars/Datsun/Teds-Tees/27133609_jtdHHc

From boakes at gmail.com  Tue Dec 18 09:32:04 2012
From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 10:32:04 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Napa Valley Roadsters on Petrolicious
Message-ID: <CAKQAAtPpqE7DHeRG08FdpMzTAJ88cDs61aO9DdiVu=zfctevNQ@mail.gmail.com>

This is just plain cruel timing for the mid-west Roadster owners, who
are expecting our first real snow fall this week. But, at least we can
dream...

http://www.petrolicious.com/articles/napa-valley-roadsters

From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Tue Dec 18 10:55:10 2012
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 09:55:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Napa Valley Roadsters on Petrolicious
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Region north of SF Bay Area expecting lows in the '20s over next few days --
so it DOES get cold in Californiab& ;^)

--- On Tue, 12/18/12, Bill Oakes <boakes at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Bill Oakes <boakes at gmail.com>
Subject: [Roadsters] Napa Valley Roadsters on Petrolicious
To: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Cc: "Dave Cooke" <cookefam314 at gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 8:32 AM

This is just plain cruel timing for the mid-west Roadster owners, who
are expecting our first real snow fall this week. But, at least we can
dream...

http://www.petrolicious.com/articles/napa-valley-roadsters
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From d_kroninger at hotmail.com  Tue Dec 18 11:23:25 2012
From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 12:23:25 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Napa Valley Roadsters on Petrolicious
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It's currently snowing here in Madison with a blizzard expected tomorrow
night.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 18, 2012, at 11:55 AM, "Gary McCormick" <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Region north of SF Bay Area expecting lows in the '20s over next few days
--
> so it DOES get cold in Californiab& ;^)
>
> --- On Tue, 12/18/12, Bill Oakes <boakes at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Bill Oakes <boakes at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Roadsters] Napa Valley Roadsters on Petrolicious
> To: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Cc: "Dave Cooke" <cookefam314 at gmail.com>
> Date: Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 8:32 AM
>
> This is just plain cruel timing for the mid-west Roadster owners, who
> are expecting our first real snow fall this week. But, at least we can
> dream...
>
> http://www.petrolicious.com/articles/napa-valley-roadsters
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From ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com  Tue Dec 18 11:49:27 2012
From: ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com (Stan)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 11:49:27 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Napa Valley Roadsters on Petrolicious
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Here in my part of Arizona we're expecting 8" tonight.  I hate snow.

Stan, glad he bought his wife a snow blower last year

On 12/18/2012 11:23 AM, Dan Kroninger wrote:
> It's currently snowing here in Madison with a blizzard expected tomorrow
> night.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 18, 2012, at 11:55 AM, "Gary McCormick" <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> Region north of SF Bay Area expecting lows in the '20s over next few days
> --
>> so it DOES get cold in Californiab& ;^)
>>
>> --- On Tue, 12/18/12, Bill Oakes <boakes at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Bill Oakes <boakes at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Roadsters] Napa Valley Roadsters on Petrolicious
>> To: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Cc: "Dave Cooke" <cookefam314 at gmail.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 8:32 AM
>>
>> This is just plain cruel timing for the mid-west Roadster owners, who
>> are expecting our first real snow fall this week. But, at least we can
>> dream...
>>
>> http://www.petrolicious.com/articles/napa-valley-roadsters
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From mspahr01 at earthlink.net  Tue Dec 18 11:49:37 2012
From: mspahr01 at earthlink.net (Marty Spahr)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 13:49:37 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Remove me/mspahr01@earthlink.net
Message-ID: <000301cddd50$6e1deeb0$4a59cc10$@earthlink.net>

Since I just sold my Datsun Roadster, could you remove me from the daily
blog.

Thank You and Happy Holidays.

Really enjoyed all the help/advice...

 

Best Regards,

Marty Spahr

Mspahr01 at earthlink.net

PH.352-742-0139

FX.352-742-1130

Mbl.813-340-9880

From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Tue Dec 18 12:03:05 2012
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 11:03:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Napa Valley Roadsters on Petrolicious
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You win :^)

--- On Tue, 12/18/12, Dan Kroninger <d_kroninger at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Dan Kroninger <d_kroninger at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Napa Valley Roadsters on Petrolicious
To: "Gary McCormick" <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>, "boakes at gmail.com"
<boakes at gmail.com>, "Dave Cooke" <cookefam314 at gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 10:23 AM

It's currently snowing here in Madison with a blizzard expected tomorrow
night. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 18, 2012, at 11:55 AM, "Gary McCormick" <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Region north of SF Bay Area expecting lows in the '20s over next few days
--
> so it DOES get cold in Californiab& ;^)
>
> --- On Tue, 12/18/12, Bill Oakes <boakes at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Bill Oakes <boakes at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Roadsters] Napa Valley Roadsters on Petrolicious
> To: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Cc: "Dave Cooke" <cookefam314 at gmail.com>
> Date: Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 8:32 AM
>
> This is just plain cruel timing for the mid-west Roadster owners, who
> are expecting our first real snow fall this week. But, at least we can
> dream...
>
> http://www.petrolicious.com/articles/napa-valley-roadsters
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From stevenehlers at charter.net  Tue Dec 18 19:57:59 2012
From: stevenehlers at charter.net (stevenehlers at charter.net)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 21:57:59 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 4, Issue 358
Message-ID: <4d07903e.1518e2.13bb118a0f9.Webtop.49@charter.net>

WOW !!! How do people Still Not see the Unsubscribe link on EVERY email 
??? !!!! ????
  I guess people either can not see and need corrective vision or they 
are just too Stup_ _..........

I digress , Have a Happy Holiday ,Everybody !!

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>    5. Remove me/mspahr01 at earthlink.net (Marty Spahr)

> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 13:49:37 -0500
> From: "Marty Spahr" <mspahr01 at earthlink.net>
> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Roadsters] Remove me/mspahr01 at earthlink.net
> Message-ID: <000301cddd50$6e1deeb0$4a59cc10$@earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Since I just sold my Datsun Roadster, could you remove me from the 
> daily
> blog.
>
> Thank You and Happy Holidays.
>
> Really enjoyed all the help/advice...
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Marty Spahr
>
> Mspahr01 at earthlink.net
>
> PH.352-742-0139
>
> FX.352-742-1130
>
> Mbl.813-340-9880
>
>
> End of Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 4, Issue 358
> ************************************************

From divehatteras at aol.com  Tue Dec 18 21:04:36 2012
From: divehatteras at aol.com (Dave Sommers)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 23:04:36 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Napa Valley Roadsters on Petrolicious
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP34734C7D0AB51B50450B866B4310@phx.gbl>
References: <1355853310.45064.YahooMailClassic@web181401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<BLU403-EAS16542D2F3F2673AA2A2A6129B310@phx.gbl>
	<BLU0-SMTP34734C7D0AB51B50450B866B4310@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4AD9B093-ACE7-426B-A322-8DCC1250CAC7@aol.com>

With all the wineries we have in VA we could do an imitation of the Napa shoot
out here.  I would have to get my car painted first to come close to the
beauties in the pics sent out and finding another operable roadster within 100
miles might be a challenge too.

Sorry you are about to have the blizzard snow but hope you keep it all out
there.

It was a beautiful day here in Virginia and I had the roadster out for a
drive. It was nice enough to have the top down but after awhile wished I had
brought along a hat as my ears eventually got cold.  I am sure that it will be
nasty here soon enough and the sport will stay tucked away till the spring.

Dave Sommers
Dive Hatteras llc
703-517-3724 boat phone
703-818-1850


On Dec 18, 2012, at 1:49 PM, Stan <ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Here in my part of Arizona we're expecting 8" tonight.  I hate snow.
>
> Stan, glad he bought his wife a snow blower last year
>
> On 12/18/2012 11:23 AM, Dan Kroninger wrote:
>> It's currently snowing here in Madison with a blizzard expected tomorrow
>> night.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 18, 2012, at 11:55 AM, "Gary McCormick" <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
>>
>>> Region north of SF Bay Area expecting lows in the '20s over next few days
>> --
>>> so it DOES get cold in Californiab& ;^)

From tputland at charter.net  Wed Dec 19 05:28:16 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 07:28:16 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Remove me/mspahr01@earthlink.net
Message-ID: <5da76a2f.28c539.13bb322bd97.Webtop.44@charter.net>

You have to do it yourself. No one can do it for you.


On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Marty Spahr wrote:

> Since I just sold my Datsun Roadster, could you remove me from the 
> daily
> blog.
>
> Thank You and Happy Holidays.
>
> Really enjoyed all the help/advice...
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Marty Spahr
>
> Mspahr01 at earthlink.net
>
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>
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>
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>
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From dscrib2 at hotmail.com  Wed Dec 19 06:04:09 2012
From: dscrib2 at hotmail.com (Dana Scribner)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 08:04:09 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: 1969 Datsun 2000
In-Reply-To: <20121218215929.7A7111C7150@mailgw3.homestead.com>
References: <20121218215929.7A7111C7150@mailgw3.homestead.com>
Message-ID: <SNT141-W32F88BE85D7E9C492D9CDFF0300@phx.gbl>

 DRONE got this email and I thought someone out there might be interested.
This is all I know about the car and person selling it. Dana S '69 2k> From:
mike.bramsey at gmail.com
> To: drone at drone-club.com
> Subject: 1969 Datsun 2000
> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 22:41:09 +0000
>
> Thank all of you for your replies in regard to the sale of the 69 Fairlady
this weekend.  I had one of our team members take more pictures of the car
today.  They have been added to the website www.bramsey.com Pleae look under
the upcoming auctions tab and you should see them.  Please call me if you have
any other questions about the car.  I will help you in any way that I can.
Mike 828-808-4947
>
> This message was sent via drone, a mailing list created through
http://www.drone-club.com/

From stevenehlers at charter.net  Wed Dec 19 08:01:39 2012
From: stevenehlers at charter.net (stevenehlers at charter.net)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:01:39 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 4, Issue 358
Message-ID: <8462185.28c4fe.13bb3af2ad8.Webtop.46@charter.net>

I apologize to Marty and the Forum listers for my comment .

Steve

From wilhouse400 at att.net  Wed Dec 19 09:21:05 2012
From: wilhouse400 at att.net (Kendall Williams)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 08:21:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 4, Issue 358
Message-ID: <1355934065.99217.BPMail_high_noncarrier@web184703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Wow fellas,
This unsubscribe problem comes up all the time. Nothing to get all up in arms about. 
Take a deep breath, relax a little. No reason to start insulting a guy's intelligence. 
How about a little roadster love bubble? Tis the season and all that....

No apology needed for not knowing.  Just follow the link at the bottom of your message to unsubscribe yourself. Or don't, and hang out until you get bit by the roadsters bug again. Hahaha
Ken

From hrhaslett at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 19 16:42:51 2012
From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:42:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: Bring a Trailer daily mail
In-Reply-To: <20121218130451.E6F14682EB@mail.bringatrailer.com>
References: <20121218130451.E6F14682EB@mail.bringatrailer.com>
Message-ID: <1355960571.56110.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

This Patrol would make a great companion to a Roadster.B  Cheers.
Roy


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only seen about 4 really nice examples in the last five years, this being one
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drivability, power, safety, and a tougher appearance. It is available in Fort
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From sewebberlaw at gmail.com  Fri Dec 21 15:03:18 2012
From: sewebberlaw at gmail.com (Stephen Webber)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 14:03:18 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] wheels
Message-ID: <CAM_ShUMS-Owu9Ypy2Hju=GyxVYBzDNqnSK-8TGsBTjM8gygTvw@mail.gmail.com>

I bought my '63 roadster in 1967.  The current rear tires were purchased in
1969 and the fronts in 1970.  The rears are radial 5.90 X 13 and the fronts
are 165 SR 13.  Although the tires have some tread left, I think maybe it
is time to upgrade to new tires and wheels.
I live in southern California.  Does  anyone know where in SoCal I can
obtain either 13 or 14 inch wheels that fit the smaller fenders of the
early roadsters?

Steve Webber

From fergus06 at socal.rr.com  Sat Dec 22 12:41:48 2012
From: fergus06 at socal.rr.com (Fergus O'Farrell)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 11:41:48 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 13" wheels, options
Message-ID: <393F3E88165E4A1F963BD5A02F2D79BF@CarmelPC>

Stephen,
if you have a '63, then it is still front drums, so the 510 forums will have
wheels along the right size.
These are local:
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/pts/3483205673.html

and although he is quoting 7", the dimension is to the inside of the bead, so
those are actually 13x6's.
what doesn't make sense in the pic is the tread width, I have never seen 175's
look so wide, those look like 195's to me, but how can someone be reading that
wrong?

You might hit up Ron Eastman in Whittier, as I think he may have some
period-correct mags that'd be the right size.
Definitely post a "wanted" message on 311s.org, but the Ratsun forums are a
good option as well.

Eagle Rock Datsun swap meet for sure will turn up something

I would strongly recommend not driving on those tires.  Even 30 year tires
that have seen no sun will have hardened, especailly with our smog prone air
the rubber dries out, and that is a recipe for a blowout, which is not pretty
when it happens on either end.

I think I have a 13" spare in my garage you can have for free, I thought I was
being clever and saving space in the trunk, but running 2 different sizes...
well, not so clever.
Fergus O
69 2000, Los Alamitos, CA

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Sat Dec 22 22:28:11 2012
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 21:28:11 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Spare fuel tanls(free) - Los Angeles
Message-ID: <BLU168-W116DCDB1FFA67EE33164576DF340@phx.gbl>

Two tanks - currently in open air - feeling guilty - will post on 311s as
well

Peter Harrison
818 448 3181

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Mon Dec 24 03:30:36 2012
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 02:30:36 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Lower Ball Joints - Craigslist - $250 (Pair)
Message-ID: <BLU168-W2069AB32FD5F54503339C7DF3B0@phx.gbl>

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/ptd/3485316450.html

I noticed on this offering that it has a nice "collapsible" boot on it. Mine
came bare. Nice additional touch.

Peter Harrison
818 448 3181

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Mon Dec 24 03:39:25 2012
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 02:39:25 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Rare Parts - Lower Ball Joints -
Message-ID: <BLU168-W9F9E254ECECB25AD470FDDF3B0@phx.gbl>

10245

BALL JOINT
Location: FRONT LOWER



Quantity pricing:

10
$150.28

20
$141.93

50
$133.58





Noticed that they have quantity offerings - FWIW

Peter Harrison
818 448 3181

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Mon Dec 24 08:44:02 2012
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 07:44:02 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Lower Ball Joints - Craigslist - $250 (Pair)
In-Reply-To: <BLU168-W2069AB32FD5F54503339C7DF3B0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU168-W2069AB32FD5F54503339C7DF3B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <67980D7F-3C53-48E6-AD24-B48745FA0DFF@netscape.net>

All Rareparts lower ball joints have the boots, as initially made. Buy direct
if possible so they don't stop making them.

Linda

Sent from my iPod

On Dec 24, 2012, at 2:30 AM, peter harrison <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/ptd/3485316450.html
>
> I noticed on this offering that it has a nice "collapsible" boot on it.
Mine
> came bare. Nice additional touch.
>
> Peter Harrison
> 818 448 3181
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From DAT240Z73 at aol.com  Mon Dec 24 21:17:52 2012
From: DAT240Z73 at aol.com (DAT240Z73 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 23:17:52 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1967.5 Datsun Roadster
Message-ID: <f82b.6983a1a8.3e0a82f0@aol.com>

I am looking for 67.5 Roadster SPL 311 Or SRL 311  The Ideal car would  be 
a runner with little to no rust. I have to  $3000 .I would  also consider a 
non running car as long as it all there. Mechanical issues are  fine but 
please nothing with a lot of body issues, So if you have a project in  the 
garage, barn or driveway just taking up space as life has gotten in the way  of 
your project contact me. Please contact me via Email _DAT240Z73 at AOL.COM_ 
(mailto:DAT240Z73 at AOL.COM) 

From ericerichoffman at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 24 21:31:27 2012
From: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com (Eric Hoffman)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 20:31:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1967.5 Datsun Roadster
In-Reply-To: <f82b.6983a1a8.3e0a82f0@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1356409887.23516.YahooMailClassic@web161806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

I think we'd all like a rust free 67.5 for three grand.  So if magically you
have one I have $5500 ready.



 

From twokeelya at gmail.com  Mon Dec 24 22:30:57 2012
From: twokeelya at gmail.com (twokeelya at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 21:30:57 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 1967.5 Datsun Roadster
In-Reply-To: <1356409887.23516.YahooMailClassic@web161806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <f82b.6983a1a8.3e0a82f0@aol.com>
	<1356409887.23516.YahooMailClassic@web161806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CALOjD_80K-W4kre0xtmbAdz4MvgN5dAFedVqqQz7ud_D0ZV03w@mail.gmail.com>

I've got a 2000, rust free with a 1600 transplant. I'd take 7K

On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Eric Hoffman <ericerichoffman at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I think we'd all like a rust free 67.5 for three grand.  So if magically you
> have one I have $5500 ready.
>
>
>
>
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From divehatteras at aol.com  Tue Dec 25 00:30:11 2012
From: divehatteras at aol.com (Dave Sommers)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 02:30:11 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 1967.5 Datsun Roadster
In-Reply-To: <1356409887.23516.YahooMailClassic@web161806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1356409887.23516.YahooMailClassic@web161806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DC0C4E89-4A7E-4470-80A1-EAFB3EBC62BB@aol.com>

Nice thing to put on the Christmas wish list, make sure you tell santa and
good luck with that.  A total basket case maybe at that price, a good runner
probably not.

Dave Sommers
Dive Hatteras llc
703-517-3724 boat phone
703-818-1850

On Dec 24, 2012, at 11:31 PM, Eric Hoffman <ericerichoffman at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I think we'd all like a rust free 67.5 for three grand.  So if magically
you
> have one I have $5500 ready.
>
>
>
>
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From cour.jpeg at gmail.com  Tue Dec 25 03:36:48 2012
From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (Paul Courson)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 05:36:48 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 1967.5 Datsun Roadster
In-Reply-To: <DC0C4E89-4A7E-4470-80A1-EAFB3EBC62BB@aol.com>
References: <1356409887.23516.YahooMailClassic@web161806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<DC0C4E89-4A7E-4470-80A1-EAFB3EBC62BB@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAAC0-o5TBB_RYbTKHTMMe0Bkoz8ogKCHgpMdPUJ+tUm0qpzJ+A@mail.gmail.com>

Agree totally that your price point is too low, especially among folks on
this list who know the valuation of both models.

More likely at that price would be a '68-70 1600. Lots more to pick from.

But ya never know!  Santa?
On Dec 25, 2012 2:30 AM, "Dave Sommers" <divehatteras at aol.com> wrote:

> Nice thing to put on the Christmas wish list, make sure you tell santa and
> good luck with that.  A total basket case maybe at that price, a good
> runner
> probably not.
>
> Dave Sommers
> Dive Hatteras llc
> 703-517-3724 boat phone
> 703-818-1850
>
> On Dec 24, 2012, at 11:31 PM, Eric Hoffman <ericerichoffman at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I think we'd all like a rust free 67.5 for three grand.  So if magically
> you
> > have one I have $5500 ready.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> >
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From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Tue Dec 25 05:41:02 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 07:41:02 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 1967.5 Datsun Roadster
In-Reply-To: <CAAC0-o5TBB_RYbTKHTMMe0Bkoz8ogKCHgpMdPUJ+tUm0qpzJ+A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1356409887.23516.YahooMailClassic@web161806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<DC0C4E89-4A7E-4470-80A1-EAFB3EBC62BB@aol.com>
	<CAAC0-o5TBB_RYbTKHTMMe0Bkoz8ogKCHgpMdPUJ+tUm0qpzJ+A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEsARLtSM0LWeje-dV-yXNE7oV4rMrggc_VH3N1+FjiAgA@mail.gmail.com>

  The last 67.5 we bought at the race barn was $300.  Thankfully we were
after the R16 more than anything else.  The car was partially
disassembled.  We had lots of boxes and loose parts to find when we finally
got it on the trailer.  The POs idea of 'restoration' was to pull off parts
and paint them black.  Unfortunately, he didn't believe in cleaning the
parts before painting!
  Most of it has been recycled.  The dash and the seats are still around.
I think it could be yours for $3000!  (:-)

Paul

On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Paul Courson <cour.jpeg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Agree totally that your price point is too low, especially among folks on
> this list who know the valuation of both models.
>
> More likely at that price would be a '68-70 1600. Lots more to pick from.
>
> But ya never know!  Santa?
> On Dec 25, 2012 2:30 AM, "Dave Sommers" <divehatteras at aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Nice thing to put on the Christmas wish list, make sure you tell santa
> and
> > good luck with that.  A total basket case maybe at that price, a good
> > runner
> > probably not.
> >
> > Dave Sommers
> > Dive Hatteras llc
> > 703-517-3724 boat phone
> > 703-818-1850
> >
> > On Dec 24, 2012, at 11:31 PM, Eric Hoffman <ericerichoffman at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I think we'd all like a rust free 67.5 for three grand.  So if
> magically
> > you
> > > have one I have $5500 ready.
> > >
> > >
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From haugchiro at moscow.com  Tue Dec 25 05:55:34 2012
From: haugchiro at moscow.com (Robert Haug)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 04:55:34 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 1967.5 Datsun Roadster
In-Reply-To: <f82b.6983a1a8.3e0a82f0@aol.com>
References: <f82b.6983a1a8.3e0a82f0@aol.com>
Message-ID: <5BC62DD0-F7F5-4E76-A89B-6EB4A71CFB02@moscow.com>

I know of an early 67 in Montana right now.
It was listed in Spokane Washington's Craigslist
It could use some brake work and has what the owner calls a small amount of
rust for $4500.
He states runs good.
You might be able to get that one for a bit less.
I know nothing more than that.
It is probably a 5 hour drive from me so I will not just go look at it.

Bob





On Dec 24, 2012, at 8:17 PM, DAT240Z73 at aol.com wrote:

> I am looking for 67.5 Roadster SPL 311 Or SRL 311  The Ideal car would  be
> a runner with little to no rust. I have to  $3000 .I would  also consider a
> non running car as long as it all there. Mechanical issues are  fine but
> please nothing with a lot of body issues, So if you have a project in  the
> garage, barn or driveway just taking up space as life has gotten in the way
of
> your project contact me. Please contact me via Email _DAT240Z73 at AOL.COM_
> (mailto:DAT240Z73 at AOL.COM)
> ________________________________________
>
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>
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From ggoodall at gmail.com  Wed Dec 26 16:41:25 2012
From: ggoodall at gmail.com (Grant Goodall)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 15:41:25 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 1967.5 Datsun Roadster
In-Reply-To: <5BC62DD0-F7F5-4E76-A89B-6EB4A71CFB02@moscow.com>
References: <f82b.6983a1a8.3e0a82f0@aol.com>
	<5BC62DD0-F7F5-4E76-A89B-6EB4A71CFB02@moscow.com>
Message-ID: <CAPPJGaQ6pS5u+E-DQP2KT2H8j=N3ypp5i9ZK3iDrJNjEmksM_w@mail.gmail.com>

I've got a 67.5 Solex (Cam and carbs) that I'm starting to think about
selling. Its stock with ~100k miles.  I'm the second owner and I've put
less than 5 miles on it.  Car has been garaged since I took ownership in
2004.

Wish I had time to restore it, but reality has set in.  I'd be intersted to
hear what folks will reasonably offer, but 4k is probably the least I would
accept right now.

SRL311- 00293  Engine: U20-00671

The car has a few OEM replacement parts with virtually no miles on them:
- Tires
- Newly powdercoated wheels (OEM)
- Cluch and Brake master cylinders
- Cluch slave cylinder
- Brake calipers/cylinders on all wheels
- Rebuilt alternator
- Professionally restored/powdercoated fuel tank.


[image: Inline image 1]


On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Robert Haug <haugchiro at moscow.com> wrote:

> I know of an early 67 in Montana right now.
> It was listed in Spokane Washington's Craigslist
> It could use some brake work and has what the owner calls a small amount of
> rust for $4500.
> He states runs good.
> You might be able to get that one for a bit less.
> I know nothing more than that.
> It is probably a 5 hour drive from me so I will not just go look at it.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 24, 2012, at 8:17 PM, DAT240Z73 at aol.com wrote:
>
> > I am looking for 67.5 Roadster SPL 311 Or SRL 311  The Ideal car would
>  be
> > a runner with little to no rust. I have to  $3000 .I would  also
> consider a
> > non running car as long as it all there. Mechanical issues are  fine but
> > please nothing with a lot of body issues, So if you have a project in
>  the
> > garage, barn or driveway just taking up space as life has gotten in the
> way
> of
> > your project contact me. Please contact me via Email _DAT240Z73 at AOL.COM_
> > (mailto:DAT240Z73 at AOL.COM)
> > ________________________________________
> >
> > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> >
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-- 

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From 12061997 at comcast.net  Wed Dec 26 19:51:44 2012
From: 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 02:51:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd:
In-Reply-To: <179806244.1495518.1356465343299.JavaMail.root@sz0008a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1275206745.1525472.1356576704691.JavaMail.root@sz0008a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

----- Forwarded Message -----
From: "Bob Ballinger" <12061997 at comcast.net> 
To: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net 
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 2:55:43 PM 



Anybody looking for a 67 1600....I have one that has been garaged 15 years while I've been restoring. It has new paint, motor overhauled in 2005 and never been on the street.Tranny done in 2010 with brake and clutch systems completely redone, new fuel pump and lines new windshield in a box. Heater,radiator and gas tank all rebuilt and relined. Two sets of seats low and tall. New battery Needs interior done. Has nose and sound insulation installed and ready for carpet ect. Dash recovered. New tires.. Many extra parts for motor and carbs rebuilt at Roadster Ranch..Have a box full of undercarriage parts hangers ect. Needs exhaust pipe. Custom made tow bar.. Anyone want to make an offer? Bob Ballinger 67 1600 Muncie IN 

From DAT240Z73 at aol.com  Fri Dec 28 08:55:40 2012
From: DAT240Z73 at aol.com (DAT240Z73 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 10:55:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for a 1967.5 Roadster
Message-ID: <3d39e.319d3b99.3e0f1afc@aol.com>

I' am on the hunt for a Roadster, what I' am looking for is a 67.5  SRL.
 First preference  is a two liter  solex car that is in tack  runs and 
drives.not a rust bucket, but some rust is fine. I want a car I can  drive for a 
couple of years before, redoing it. I have $5000 for the right car.  I 
would  consider a Non running car as long as it all there and not  rusted out, 
and not in boxes. Please respond to my E-mail address only. 
_dat240z73 at aol.com_ (mailto:dat240z73 at aol.com) 
   Would also consider a 67.5 -1600, in the $3000-$4000  range

From printner at att.net  Fri Dec 28 09:06:45 2012
From: printner at att.net (Tim Waltz)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 09:06:45 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for a 1967.5 Roadster--Really?  Again?
Message-ID: <00b801cde515$55c4b0c0$014e1240$@att.net>

Are we going to do this all over again?


Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
DAT240Z73 at aol.com
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 8:56 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for a 1967.5 Roadster

I' am on the hunt for a Roadster, what I' am looking for is a 67.5  SRL.
 First preference  is a two liter  solex car that is in tack  runs and
drives.not a rust bucket, but some rust is fine. I want a car I can  drive
for a couple of years before, redoing it. I have $5000 for the right car.  I
would  consider a Non running car as long as it all there and not  rusted
out, and not in boxes. Please respond to my E-mail address only. 
_dat240z73 at aol.com_ (mailto:dat240z73 at aol.com) 
   Would also consider a 67.5 -1600, in the $3000-$4000  range
________________________________________

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From primodonna1 at juno.com  Fri Dec 28 09:53:04 2012
From: primodonna1 at juno.com (primodonna1 at juno.com)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 16:53:04 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for a 1967.5 Roadster
Message-ID: <20121228.115304.29841.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com>

That is way too much to offer for a running and driving 67.5 SRL.  Why don't
you just go and buy a new one.  You should send your $5K to Obama and he will
make you great.

A good Solex setup is worth about $2K.  What does "in tack" mean"?  Based on
your comments it would require a license trim and a spare new one in the trunk
along with a spare pair of headrests and an extra open Solex air cleaner.

You should realize that everyone on this list is not stupid.

PD

---------- Original Message ----------
From: DAT240Z73 at aol.com
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for a 1967.5 Roadster
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 10:55:40 -0500 (EST)

I' am on the hunt for a Roadster, what I' am looking for is a 67.5  SRL.
 First preference  is a two liter  solex car that is in tack  runs and
drives.not a rust bucket, but some rust is fine. I want a car I can  drive for
a
couple of years before, redoing it. I have $5000 for the right car.  I
would  consider a Non running car as long as it all there and not  rusted
out,
and not in boxes. Please respond to my E-mail address only.
_dat240z73 at aol.com_ (mailto:dat240z73 at aol.com)
   Would also consider a 67.5 -1600, in the $3000-$4000  range
________________________________________



____________________________________________________________
Woman is 53 But Looks 25
Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors...
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/50ddced81c1254ed750f5st02vuc

From printner at att.net  Fri Dec 28 10:16:21 2012
From: printner at att.net (Tim Waltz)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 10:16:21 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for a 1967.5 Roadster--Really?  Again?
In-Reply-To: <9d2.43c1a148.3e0f2147@aol.com>
References: <9d2.43c1a148.3e0f2147@aol.com>
Message-ID: <00bc01cde51f$0ea147d0$2be3d770$@att.net>

No, it is not going to fall into your lap, but this forum doesn't generally
offer a lot of cars for sale.  

 

I believe you should have received enough feedback from the list last time
to realize that your expectation for your proposed purchase price may be
unreasonable.

 

I would suggest doing a little more research.   Ebay.  Craigslist.
Bringatrailer.  Talk to vendors and others that may have cars-Mike Young,
Craig Halsted, Dann @ Rallye.    

 

By posting your request again here, with only a slightly higher (yet still
probably unreasonable) amount you're willing to pay, you're just going to
clutter up the list with responses (like this one).

 

Tim

 

 

 

From: DAT240Z73 at aol.com [mailto:DAT240Z73 at aol.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 9:23 AM
To: printner at att.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Looking for a 1967.5 Roadster--Really? Again?

 

Why not, if I want a car i have to look for one it's not going to just fall
in my lap

 

In a message dated 12/28/2012 11:06:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
printner at att.net writes:

Are we going to do this all over again?


Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
DAT240Z73 at aol.com
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 8:56 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for a 1967.5 Roadster

I' am on the hunt for a Roadster, what I' am looking for is a 67.5  SRL.
First preference  is a two liter  solex car that is in tack  runs and
drives.not a rust bucket, but some rust is fine. I want a car I can  drive
for a couple of years before, redoing it. I have $5000 for the right car.  I
would  consider a Non running car as long as it all there and not  rusted
out, and not in boxes. Please respond to my E-mail address only. 
_dat240z73 at aol.com_ (mailto:dat240z73 at aol.com) 
   Would also consider a 67.5 -1600, in the $3000-$4000  range
________________________________________

From tputland at charter.net  Fri Dec 28 10:21:01 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:21:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for a 1967.5 Roadster--Really?  Again?
Message-ID: <8a2ddac.2c87a9.13be287ff3f.Webtop.46@charter.net>

"Are we going to do this all over again?"

Evidently.....

other tim


On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Tim Waltz wrote:

> Are we going to do this all over again?
>
>
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> DAT240Z73 at aol.com
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 8:56 AM
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for a 1967.5 Roadster
>
> I' am on the hunt for a Roadster, what I' am looking for is a 67.5 
> SRL.
>  First preference  is a two liter  solex car that is in tack  runs and
> drives.not a rust bucket, but some rust is fine. I want a car I can 
> drive
> for a couple of years before, redoing it. I have $5000 for the right 
> car.  I
> would  consider a Non running car as long as it all there and not 
> rusted
> out, and not in boxes. Please respond to my E-mail address only. 
> _dat240z73 at aol.com_ (mailto:dat240z73 at aol.com)    Would also consider 
> a 67.5 -1600, in the $3000-$4000  range
> ________________________________________

From nolan at mortarsprayer.com  Fri Dec 28 10:45:52 2012
From: nolan at mortarsprayer.com (Nolan)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 09:45:52 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] I figured it out - RE: Looking for a 1967.5
 Roadster--Really? Again?
In-Reply-To: <8a2ddac.2c87a9.13be287ff3f.Webtop.46@charter.net>
References: <8a2ddac.2c87a9.13be287ff3f.Webtop.46@charter.net>
Message-ID: <004401cde523$2effbb20$8cff3160$@com>

Hello Other Tim,
I bet I figured it out!

His calendar may be off a few months and he thinks it is April First.

Nolan


"Are we going to do this all over again?"

Evidently.....

other tim

From tputland at charter.net  Fri Dec 28 11:34:23 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 13:34:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] I figured it out - RE: Looking for a 1967.5
 Roadster--Really? Again?
Message-ID: <556b8e45.2c91bf.13be2cb28db.Webtop.46@charter.net>

LOL!

I just saw this 67.5 inquiry posted on the mothership site as well.


On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Nolan wrote:

> Hello Other Tim,
> I bet I figured it out!
>
> His calendar may be off a few months and he thinks it is April First.
>
> Nolan
>
>
> "Are we going to do this all over again?"
>
> Evidently.....
>
> other tim

From nolan at mortarsprayer.com  Fri Dec 28 11:40:49 2012
From: nolan at mortarsprayer.com (Nolan)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 10:40:49 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] I figured it out - RE: Looking for a 1967.5
 Roadster--Really? Again?
In-Reply-To: <556b8e45.2c91bf.13be2cb28db.Webtop.46@charter.net>
References: <556b8e45.2c91bf.13be2cb28db.Webtop.46@charter.net>
Message-ID: <005701cde52a$dc0e8a60$942b9f20$@com>

It must be an April Fool's joke.  ?

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 10:34 AM
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] I figured it out - RE: Looking for a 1967.5
Roadster--Really? Again?

LOL!

I just saw this 67.5 inquiry posted on the mothership site as well.


On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Nolan wrote:

> Hello Other Tim,
> I bet I figured it out!
>
> His calendar may be off a few months and he thinks it is April First.
>
> Nolan
>
>
> "Are we going to do this all over again?"
>
> Evidently.....
>
> other tim
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From cehubbard at verizon.net  Fri Dec 28 12:07:34 2012
From: cehubbard at verizon.net (Charles Hubbard)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 13:07:34 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
Message-ID: <004c01cde52e$97f4c6b0$c7de5410$@net>

As long as we are all dreaming, perhaps someone on the list knows where I
can purchase a running 1961 Austin Healey 3000 with the rare tripple-carb
setup, side curtains, manual overdrive, knockoff spokes and the brass hammer
in a non-rusted trunk.  I've got $5,000 to spend.
 
Respectfully,
 
Charlie 
1964 SPL310

From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 12:14:23 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:14:23 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
In-Reply-To: <004c01cde52e$97f4c6b0$c7de5410$@net>
References: <004c01cde52e$97f4c6b0$c7de5410$@net>
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEvCtsAigL7jEaHx2pBdkJMNSmogXMOKN8oipuxz2Nevsg@mail.gmail.com>

  I'd rather spend my $5000 on an aluminum bodied XK120M.

Paul

On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Charles Hubbard <cehubbard at verizon.net>wrote:

> As long as we are all dreaming, perhaps someone on the list knows where I
> can purchase a running 1961 Austin Healey 3000 with the rare tripple-carb
> setup, side curtains, manual overdrive, knockoff spokes and the brass
> hammer
> in a non-rusted trunk.  I've got $5,000 to spend.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Charlie
> 1964 SPL310
> ________________________________________
>
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Dec 28 12:51:25 2012
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 19:51:25 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
In-Reply-To: <CAFEMhEvCtsAigL7jEaHx2pBdkJMNSmogXMOKN8oipuxz2Nevsg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <004c01cde52e$97f4c6b0$c7de5410$@net>
	<CAFEMhEvCtsAigL7jEaHx2pBdkJMNSmogXMOKN8oipuxz2Nevsg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1884724832-1356724286-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1706310303-@b3.c20.bise6.blackberry>

I wanna play too!

Vincent Black Shadow

Pete
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:14:23 
To: Charles Hubbard<cehubbard at verizon.net>
Cc: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III

  I'd rather spend my $5000 on an aluminum bodied XK120M.

Paul

On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Charles Hubbard <cehubbard at verizon.net>wrote:

> As long as we are all dreaming, perhaps someone on the list knows where I
> can purchase a running 1961 Austin Healey 3000 with the rare tripple-carb
> setup, side curtains, manual overdrive, knockoff spokes and the brass
> hammer
> in a non-rusted trunk.  I've got $5,000 to spend.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Charlie
> 1964 SPL310
> ________________________________________
>
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>
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From RWM at RWMann.com  Fri Dec 28 13:11:44 2012
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 15:11:44 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
In-Reply-To: <CAFEMhEvCtsAigL7jEaHx2pBdkJMNSmogXMOKN8oipuxz2Nevsg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <004c01cde52e$97f4c6b0$c7de5410$@net>
	<CAFEMhEvCtsAigL7jEaHx2pBdkJMNSmogXMOKN8oipuxz2Nevsg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50DDFD00.7010304@RWMann.com>

My five-large is reserved for a 1969 GT40 or Matra 650 -- with Le Mans 
provenance...


Paul Kort wrote:
>    I'd rather spend my $5000 on an aluminum bodied XK120M.
>
> Paul
>
> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Charles Hubbard <cehubbard at verizon.net>wrote:
>
>> As long as we are all dreaming, perhaps someone on the list knows where I
>> can purchase a running 1961 Austin Healey 3000 with the rare tripple-carb
>> setup, side curtains, manual overdrive, knockoff spokes and the brass
>> hammer
>> in a non-rusted trunk.  I've got $5,000 to spend.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> Charlie
>> 1964 SPL310

From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 14:13:51 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 16:13:51 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
In-Reply-To: <1356727764.3596.YahooMailClassic@web124902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
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  And all along I thought I could settle for a Slvia!  Or maybe a RL411 SSS?

Paul

On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Mike Harper <roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com>wrote:

> My $5G buys a 1956 M-B 300 Gullwing.  OK, make it $6 grand!
>
> Mike Harper, CAI, AARE
> Harper Auction & Realty
> 843-729-4996
> "Experience Sells"
>
> www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET <http://www.auctionmyrealestate.net/>
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Fri, 12/28/12, RWM <RWM at RWMann.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: RWM <RWM at RWMann.com>
>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
> To: "Paul Kort" <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Charles Hubbard" <cehubbard at verizon.net>,
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Friday, December 28, 2012, 3:11 PM
>
> My five-large is reserved for a 1969 GT40 or Matra 650 -- with Le Mans
> provenance...
>
>
> Paul Kort wrote:
> >    I'd rather spend my $5000 on an aluminum bodied XK120M.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Charles Hubbard <cehubbard at verizon.net<http://us.mc1249.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cehubbard at verizon.net>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> As long as we are all dreaming, perhaps someone on the list knows where
> I
> >> can purchase a running 1961 Austin Healey 3000 with the rare
> tripple-carb
> >> setup, side curtains, manual overdrive, knockoff spokes and the brass
> >> hammer
> >> in a non-rusted trunk.  I've got $5,000 to spend.
> >>
> >> Respectfully,
> >>
> >> Charlie
> >> 1964 SPL310
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From sewebberlaw at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 14:59:32 2012
From: sewebberlaw at gmail.com (Stephen Webber)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 13:59:32 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
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Mike's got the right idea.  Or why not a Ferrari, perhaps a 250 GT
California Spyder from 1959?  Maybe go all the way to $7 grand.

Steve Webber

On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>wrote:

>   And all along I thought I could settle for a Slvia!  Or maybe a RL411
> SSS?
>
> Paul
>
> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Mike Harper <roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com
> >wrote:
>
> > My $5G buys a 1956 M-B 300 Gullwing.  OK, make it $6 grand!
> >
> > Mike Harper, CAI, AARE
> > Harper Auction & Realty
> > 843-729-4996
> > "Experience Sells"
> >
> > www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET <http://www.auctionmyrealestate.net/>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On *Fri, 12/28/12, RWM <RWM at RWMann.com>* wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: RWM <RWM at RWMann.com>
> >
> > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
> > To: "Paul Kort" <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
> > Cc: "Charles Hubbard" <cehubbard at verizon.net>,
> > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> > Date: Friday, December 28, 2012, 3:11 PM
> >
> > My five-large is reserved for a 1969 GT40 or Matra 650 -- with Le Mans
> > provenance...
> >
> >
> > Paul Kort wrote:
> > >    I'd rather spend my $5000 on an aluminum bodied XK120M.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Charles Hubbard <
> cehubbard at verizon.net<
> http://us.mc1249.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cehubbard at verizon.net>
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> As long as we are all dreaming, perhaps someone on the list knows
> where
> > I
> > >> can purchase a running 1961 Austin Healey 3000 with the rare
> > tripple-carb
> > >> setup, side curtains, manual overdrive, knockoff spokes and the brass
> > >> hammer
> > >> in a non-rusted trunk.  I've got $5,000 to spend.
> > >>
> > >> Respectfully,
> > >>
> > >> Charlie
> > >> 1964 SPL310
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From stephen.holst at randrglobal.com  Fri Dec 28 15:14:44 2012
From: stephen.holst at randrglobal.com (Stephen Holst)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 17:14:44 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
In-Reply-To: <CAM_ShUM5A8sbSKPBg42je-tkFa4pnR35OXikdX3Ho36o=55uaw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CD038404.4240%stephen.holst@randrglobal.com>

I really like the 300 SL Idea but make it a 1955 with the aluminum body.
Should be as easy to get as a 67.5 2000 for $5000
Steve


On 12/28/12 4:59 PM, "Stephen Webber" <sewebberlaw at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mike's got the right idea.  Or why not a Ferrari, perhaps a 250 GT
> California Spyder from 1959?  Maybe go all the way to $7 grand.
> 
> Steve Webber
> 
> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>>   And all along I thought I could settle for a Slvia!  Or maybe a RL411
>> SSS?
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Mike Harper <roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> My $5G buys a 1956 M-B 300 Gullwing.  OK, make it $6 grand!
>>> 
>>> Mike Harper, CAI, AARE
>>> Harper Auction & Realty
>>> 843-729-4996
>>> "Experience Sells"
>>> 
>>> www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET <http://www.auctionmyrealestate.net/>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --- On *Fri, 12/28/12, RWM <RWM at RWMann.com>* wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: RWM <RWM at RWMann.com>
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
>>> To: "Paul Kort" <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
>>> Cc: "Charles Hubbard" <cehubbard at verizon.net>,
>>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>>> Date: Friday, December 28, 2012, 3:11 PM
>>> 
>>> My five-large is reserved for a 1969 GT40 or Matra 650 -- with Le Mans
>>> provenance...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Paul Kort wrote:
>>>>    I'd rather spend my $5000 on an aluminum bodied XK120M.
>>>> 
>>>> Paul
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Charles Hubbard <
>> cehubbard at verizon.net<
>> http://us.mc1249.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cehubbard at verizon.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> As long as we are all dreaming, perhaps someone on the list knows
>> where
>>> I
>>>>> can purchase a running 1961 Austin Healey 3000 with the rare
>>> tripple-carb
>>>>> setup, side curtains, manual overdrive, knockoff spokes and the brass
>>>>> hammer
>>>>> in a non-rusted trunk.  I've got $5,000 to spend.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Charlie
>>>>> 1964 SPL310
>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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>> .com
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From ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com  Fri Dec 28 15:32:53 2012
From: ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com (Stan Wilkins)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 15:32:53 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
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	<CAFEMhEvCtsAigL7jEaHx2pBdkJMNSmogXMOKN8oipuxz2Nevsg@mail.gmail.com>
	<50DDFD00.7010304@RWMann.com>
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Reminds me of the XK140 I passed up a few years ago; $400.00 but it 
wouldn't start.  No really, $400.00.  Well OK, it was 1970 and the thing 
was so low on compression that it wouldn't even push start. And the 
truth is that I already had so many cars that my dad wouldn't let me 
bring it home at any price.

Stan, wishing I'd figured out where to put it anyway.

On 12/28/2012 1:11 PM, RWM wrote:
> My five-large is reserved for a 1969 GT40 or Matra 650 -- with Le Mans 
> provenance...
>
>
> Paul Kort wrote:
>>    I'd rather spend my $5000 on an aluminum bodied XK120M.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Charles Hubbard 
>> <cehubbard at verizon.net>wrote:
>>
>>> As long as we are all dreaming, perhaps someone on the list knows 
>>> where I
>>> can purchase a running 1961 Austin Healey 3000 with the rare 
>>> tripple-carb
>>> setup, side curtains, manual overdrive, knockoff spokes and the brass
>>> hammer
>>> in a non-rusted trunk.  I've got $5,000 to spend.
>>>
>>> Respectfully,
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>> 1964 SPL310
> ________________________________________
>
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From mark at bradakis.com  Fri Dec 28 15:55:23 2012
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 15:55:23 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
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	<BLU0-SMTP1789580B1AB90837029ED39B43F0@phx.gbl>
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Years ago my father shipped my old train set out to me here in Utah.  He 
wrapped
up the bits in sections of the Indianapolis Star newspaper.  Here's some 
examples
of what was in the automotive classifieds back in 1973:


'67 Chevelle, 396, 4 spd. $950

'67 Corvette conv. air, power windows, 427, $2,300

Ferrari, 1959 250 GT, 12 cyl. 2 passenger, excel. cond. $4,950

'53 Jag XK120 show car, $3,395

'64 MGB New red paint, new top, luggage rack, very fast, $1,000

'59 MGA, engine good, body needs work $500

'58 Porsche, runs good, $850

'60 Triumph, 4 spd., looks, runs perfect  $300

'64 TR4 wire wheels, new paint, tires, $750

'64 TR4 Rebuilt, mech. perfect, new tires, no rust $850

'56 Morgan Plus 4, excel. orig. condition, $3,500


mjb.

From roadster at astound.net  Fri Dec 28 16:27:40 2012
From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 15:27:40 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for a 1967.5 Roadster--Really?  Again?
In-Reply-To: <00b801cde515$55c4b0c0$014e1240$@att.net>
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Message-ID: <30BCCC12-FDD0-4726-BA8F-58F2EAA01F2F@astound.net>

$5000 and would consider a non-runner? Over ten years ago you were lucky to
get a non-runner with an engine and tranny - with the body rusted out, and
they were for more money. (I know, I checked out several.) The guy is using
1992 prices? And wants a Solex setup? Uh, two grand right there. Me thinks he
should stick to Z's.

Fred -

On Dec 28, 2012, at 8:06 AM, "Tim Waltz" <printner at att.net> wrote:

> Are we going to do this all over again?
>
>
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> DAT240Z73 at aol.com
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 8:56 AM
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for a 1967.5 Roadster
>
> I' am on the hunt for a Roadster, what I' am looking for is a 67.5  SRL.
> First preference  is a two liter  solex car that is in tack  runs and
> drives.not a rust bucket, but some rust is fine. I want a car I can  drive
> for a couple of years before, redoing it. I have $5000 for the right car.
I
> would  consider a Non running car as long as it all there and not  rusted
> out, and not in boxes. Please respond to my E-mail address only.
> _dat240z73 at aol.com_ (mailto:dat240z73 at aol.com)
>   Would also consider a 67.5 -1600, in the $3000-$4000  range
> ________________________________________

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Dec 28 17:37:36 2012
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 16:37:36 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
In-Reply-To: <50DE235B.7070002@bradakis.com>
References: <004c01cde52e$97f4c6b0$c7de5410$@net>
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	<50DDFD00.7010304@RWMann.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP1789580B1AB90837029ED39B43F0@phx.gbl>
	<50DE235B.7070002@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <00d901cde55c$b6940bc0$23bc2340$@net>

Ahhhhh, memories. I found a '68 'Vette for $1500, but the insurance for a
single, under 21 sailor was $3000. Ended up w/ a '72 El Camino. 

Even more important, in '73, before the Great Oil Embargo, gas was still
less than fifty-cents a gallon!

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark J
Bradakis
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 2:55 PM
To: datsun
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III

Years ago my father shipped my old train set out to me here in Utah.  He
wrapped up the bits in sections of the Indianapolis Star newspaper.  Here's
some examples of what was in the automotive classifieds back in 1973:


'67 Chevelle, 396, 4 spd. $950

'67 Corvette conv. air, power windows, 427, $2,300

Ferrari, 1959 250 GT, 12 cyl. 2 passenger, excel. cond. $4,950

'53 Jag XK120 show car, $3,395

'64 MGB New red paint, new top, luggage rack, very fast, $1,000

'59 MGA, engine good, body needs work $500

'58 Porsche, runs good, $850

'60 Triumph, 4 spd., looks, runs perfect  $300

'64 TR4 wire wheels, new paint, tires, $750

'64 TR4 Rebuilt, mech. perfect, new tires, no rust $850

'56 Morgan Plus 4, excel. orig. condition, $3,500


mjb 

From davesmbox at aol.com  Fri Dec 28 18:51:07 2012
From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:51:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
In-Reply-To: <004c01cde52e$97f4c6b0$c7de5410$@net>
References: <004c01cde52e$97f4c6b0$c7de5410$@net>
Message-ID: <8CFB37E1A9640DD-11F0-62329@webmail-d130.sysops.aol.com>

SANTAS VILLAGE FOR $5000


-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Hubbard <cehubbard at verizon.net>
To: datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Dec 28, 2012 2:09 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III


As long as we are all dreaming, perhaps someone on the list knows where I
can purchase a running 1961 Austin Healey 3000 with the rare tripple-carb
setup, side curtains, manual overdrive, knockoff spokes and the brass hammer
in a non-rusted trunk.  I've got $5,000 to spend.

Respectfully,

Charlie
1964 SPL310
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From nolan at mortarsprayer.com  Fri Dec 28 19:57:53 2012
From: nolan at mortarsprayer.com (Nolan)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 18:57:53 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] NRC    RE:  Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
In-Reply-To: <8CFB37E1A9640DD-11F0-62329@webmail-d130.sysops.aol.com>
References: <004c01cde52e$97f4c6b0$c7de5410$@net>
	<8CFB37E1A9640DD-11F0-62329@webmail-d130.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <00b701cde570$4d0cba30$e7262e90$@com>

(No Roadster Content) NRC

An almost deserted island and Elin Nordegren for Christmas.

No, I guess I would rather have the GT40 for 5 grand. A for sale ad that has
always stuck with me since I was a young man:
GT40 for sale. 220 mph or 20 mpg but not at the same time. That ad still
makes me smile.

:)
Nolan


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
davesmbox at aol.com
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 5:51 PM
To: cehubbard at verizon.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III

SANTAS VILLAGE FOR $5000

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Fri Dec 28 20:26:56 2012
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 19:26:56 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
In-Reply-To: <8CFB37E1A9640DD-11F0-62329@webmail-d130.sysops.aol.com>
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	<8CFB37E1A9640DD-11F0-62329@webmail-d130.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <BLU168-W13367566B8CDB2B8E701B2DDF3E0@phx.gbl>

I imagine that your $5K will buy all of your wishes (except for the actual
car) <G>

Peter Harrison
818 448 3181


> To: cehubbard at verizon.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> From: davesmbox at aol.com
> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:51:07 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
>
> SANTAS VILLAGE FOR $5000
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Hubbard <cehubbard at verizon.net>
> To: datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Fri, Dec 28, 2012 2:09 pm
> Subject: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
>
>
> As long as we are all dreaming, perhaps someone on the list knows where I
> can purchase a running 1961 Austin Healey 3000 with the rare tripple-carb
> setup, side curtains, manual overdrive, knockoff spokes and the brass
hammer
> in a non-rusted trunk.  I've got $5,000 to spend.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Charlie
> 1964 SPL310
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>
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Fri Dec 28 20:37:06 2012
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 19:37:06 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
In-Reply-To: <50DE235B.7070002@bradakis.com>
References: <004c01cde52e$97f4c6b0$c7de5410$@net>,
	<CAFEMhEvCtsAigL7jEaHx2pBdkJMNSmogXMOKN8oipuxz2Nevsg@mail.gmail.com>,
	<50DDFD00.7010304@RWMann.com>,
	<BLU0-SMTP1789580B1AB90837029ED39B43F0@phx.gbl>,
	<50DE235B.7070002@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <BLU168-W512DDF0B967415E3F0D9F4DF3E0@phx.gbl>

RM is currently auctioning a 1959 Ferrari GT 250 with estimates from $175K
upwards - investment opportunity lost ? <G>

How old was the newspaper ??

Peter Harrison
818 448 3181


> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 15:55:23 -0700
> From: mark at bradakis.com
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
>
> Years ago my father shipped my old train set out to me here in Utah.  He
> wrapped
> up the bits in sections of the Indianapolis Star newspaper.  Here's some
> examples
> of what was in the automotive classifieds back in 1973:
>
>
> '67 Chevelle, 396, 4 spd. $950
>
> '67 Corvette conv. air, power windows, 427, $2,300
>
> Ferrari, 1959 250 GT, 12 cyl. 2 passenger, excel. cond. $4,950
>
> '53 Jag XK120 show car, $3,395
>
> '64 MGB New red paint, new top, luggage rack, very fast, $1,000
>
> '59 MGA, engine good, body needs work $500
>
> '58 Porsche, runs good, $850
>
> '60 Triumph, 4 spd., looks, runs perfect  $300
>
> '64 TR4 wire wheels, new paint, tires, $750
>
> '64 TR4 Rebuilt, mech. perfect, new tires, no rust $850
>
> '56 Morgan Plus 4, excel. orig. condition, $3,500
>
>
> mjb.
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From sales at rslaserkits.com  Fri Dec 28 21:17:56 2012
From: sales at rslaserkits.com (Richard Shepard)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:17:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
In-Reply-To: <BLU168-W512DDF0B967415E3F0D9F4DF3E0@phx.gbl>
References: <004c01cde52e$97f4c6b0$c7de5410$@net>,
	<CAFEMhEvCtsAigL7jEaHx2pBdkJMNSmogXMOKN8oipuxz2Nevsg@mail.gmail.com>,
	<50DDFD00.7010304@RWMann.com>,
	<BLU0-SMTP1789580B1AB90837029ED39B43F0@phx.gbl>,
	<50DE235B.7070002@bradakis.com>
	<BLU168-W512DDF0B967415E3F0D9F4DF3E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1356754676.46140.YahooMailNeo@web140801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Well, in 63 I almost got a 62 250 SWB losso all Aluminum body one of 50 for
4500  now 2 m plus. Dad would not cosign the note :( was only 18 at the time
 Did have a 67 E type roadster paid 2700 for that one in 71
now 2- 68
roadsters have under 5g total in them but they are not the 67 1/2
rich
________________________________
 From: peter harrison
<granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>
To: datsun <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wanted:
Austin Healey Mark III
  
RM is currently auctioning a 1959 Ferrari GT 250
with estimates from $175K
upwards - investment opportunity lost ? <G>

How old
was the newspaper ??

Peter Harrison
818 448 3181


> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012
15:55:23 -0700
> From: mark at bradakis.com
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
>
> Years ago my
father shipped my old train set out to me here in Utah.  He
> wrapped
> up the
bits in sections of the Indianapolis Star newspaper.  Here's some
> examples
>
of what was in the automotive classifieds back in 1973:
>
>
> '67 Chevelle,
396, 4 spd. $950
>
> '67 Corvette conv. air, power windows, 427, $2,300
>
>
Ferrari, 1959 250 GT, 12 cyl. 2 passenger, excel. cond. $4,950
>
> '53 Jag
XK120 show car, $3,395
>
> '64 MGB New red paint, new top, luggage rack, very
fast, $1,000
>
> '59 MGA, engine good, body needs work $500
>
> '58 Porsche,
runs good, $850
>
> '60 Triumph, 4 spd., looks, runs perfect  $300
>
> '64 TR4
wire wheels, new paint, tires, $750
>
> '64 TR4 Rebuilt, mech. perfect, new
tires, no rust $850
>
> '56 Morgan Plus 4, excel. orig. condition, $3,500
>
>
> mjb.
> ________________________________________
>
>
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From tputland at charter.net  Fri Dec 28 21:37:08 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 23:37:08 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
Message-ID: <510bc0f7.2cd516.13be4f2fecd.Webtop.46@charter.net>

Are we done  yet?

From tom at datsun2000.com  Fri Dec 28 22:14:22 2012
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 21:14:22 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
In-Reply-To: <00d901cde55c$b6940bc0$23bc2340$@net>
References: <004c01cde52e$97f4c6b0$c7de5410$@net>
	<CAFEMhEvCtsAigL7jEaHx2pBdkJMNSmogXMOKN8oipuxz2Nevsg@mail.gmail.com>
	<50DDFD00.7010304@RWMann.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP1789580B1AB90837029ED39B43F0@phx.gbl>
	<50DE235B.7070002@bradakis.com> <00d901cde55c$b6940bc0$23bc2340$@net>
Message-ID: <50DE7C2E.2040609@datsun2000.com>

In 1969 I took my 68 2 Liter roadster to Ron Tonkin Gran Tourisimo on 
Burnside in downtown Portland, Oregon and looked at a beautiful red '64 
Ferrari convertible they had imported.  They imported Ferrari's to avoid 
the federal laws coming into effect.  This one was red with a natural 
interior and Borani wheels.  It was priced at $4,000, AND according to 
the information letter on the window it was the one and only Ferrari 
built for the street using a fiberglass body.  I stood by the car for 
about an hour trying to convince myself I should buy it.  I could afford 
to trade my roadster and buy the car, but a clutch was $500 on the work 
bench at the import specialty and Lotus dealer near my home.  A tune-up 
was about $350, which I learned when Todd Webb and his nationally 
recognized Porsche race team could not tune up a Ferrari he was loaned 
and he had to pay Ron Tonkin to tune it up for him, and of course there 
was the insurance thing as well as trying to get my mother's car out of 
the garage so I could put a Ferrari in it.  I finally walked away 
without the car.  Today Ron Tonkin still owns the car.  I have been told 
it is in his warehouse.  The service manager for Ferrari here in Las 
Vegas told me that Tonkin is now the importer, and I have seen an F1 car 
being unloaded from a cargo van near his warehouse.  Oh, and that clutch 
today?  About $3500 sitting on the work bench.  A tune-up/service will 
set you back something North of $1.00/mile driven if serviced at 
recommended intervals.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Las Vegas
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org


On 12/28/2012 4:37 PM, Pete Peters wrote:
> Ahhhhh, memories. I found a '68 'Vette for $1500, but the insurance for a
> single, under 21 sailor was $3000. Ended up w/ a '72 El Camino.
>
> Even more important, in '73, before the Great Oil Embargo, gas was still
> less than fifty-cents a gallon!
>
> Pete
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark J
> Bradakis
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 2:55 PM
> To: datsun
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
>
> Years ago my father shipped my old train set out to me here in Utah.  He
> wrapped up the bits in sections of the Indianapolis Star newspaper.  Here's
> some examples of what was in the automotive classifieds back in 1973:
>
>
> '67 Chevelle, 396, 4 spd. $950
>
> '67 Corvette conv. air, power windows, 427, $2,300
>
> Ferrari, 1959 250 GT, 12 cyl. 2 passenger, excel. cond. $4,950
>
> '53 Jag XK120 show car, $3,395
>
> '64 MGB New red paint, new top, luggage rack, very fast, $1,000
>
> '59 MGA, engine good, body needs work $500
>
> '58 Porsche, runs good, $850
>
> '60 Triumph, 4 spd., looks, runs perfect  $300
>
> '64 TR4 wire wheels, new paint, tires, $750
>
> '64 TR4 Rebuilt, mech. perfect, new tires, no rust $850
>
> '56 Morgan Plus 4, excel. orig. condition, $3,500
>
>
> mjb
> ________________________________________
>
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Fri Dec 28 22:28:56 2012
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 21:28:56 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 66 in Azusa CA - not mine
Message-ID: <BLU168-W43D01827C145DBE6A3C58DF3E0@phx.gbl>

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/3507613531.html

Peter Harrison
818 448 3181

From michael.morris07 at comcast.net  Fri Dec 28 23:01:17 2012
From: michael.morris07 at comcast.net (Michael Morris)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 22:01:17 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Napa Roadsters
Message-ID: <A4CCE506-315C-42BB-962E-5576B11E37F9@comcast.net>

Are the two guys in the video members of this list?  If so, I'm a new 67.5
1600 owner in Sonoma and would love to join up for a ride.

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Dec 28 23:07:09 2012
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 06:07:09 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Wanted: Dream Cars
Message-ID: <528972312-1356761230-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1598181966-@b3.c20.bise6.blackberry>

Hey, we're having fun here. 

Pete 
------Original Message------
From: Tim Putland
Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
Sent: Dec 28, 2012 8:37 PM

Are we done  yet?
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From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Sat Dec 29 06:51:23 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 08:51:23 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 66 in Azusa CA - not mine
In-Reply-To: <BLU168-W43D01827C145DBE6A3C58DF3E0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU168-W43D01827C145DBE6A3C58DF3E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEtm3wS5A8BVVwirgw+1jrLArZ3vdU2Mf6GGexcYbvM=Vw@mail.gmail.com>

  Looks like a decent start to a project, if you can handle the paint?

Paul
Ohio

On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 12:28 AM, peter harrison <
granvillecomputing at hotmail.com> wrote:

> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/3507613531.html
>
> Peter Harrison
> 818 448 3181
> ________________________________________

From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Sat Dec 29 06:53:09 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 08:53:09 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Wanted: Dream Cars
In-Reply-To: <528972312-1356761230-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1598181966-@b3.c20.bise6.blackberry>
References: <528972312-1356761230-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1598181966-@b3.c20.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEs-tKi0DNpKUGdhkbdNJsP630gzuu=aKKkKchUSDFc+3A@mail.gmail.com>

Tim,

  Just because you have your dream ride already, a Jeep Gladiator, doesn't
mean the rest of us have to stop dreaming!  (:-)

Paul
Ohio

On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 1:07 AM, <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hey, we're having fun here.
>
> Pete
> ------Original Message------
> From: Tim Putland
> Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> To: Datsun Roadster List
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
> Sent: Dec 28, 2012 8:37 PM
>
> Are we done  yet?
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From tputland at charter.net  Sat Dec 29 07:00:12 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:00:12 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Wanted: Dream Cars
Message-ID: <1da58f86.2cdfb1.13be6f67f16.Webtop.45@charter.net>

Dream ride? some days. Nightmare ride? some days.


On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Paul Kort wrote:

> Tim,
>
>   Just because you have your dream ride already, a Jeep Gladiator, 
> doesn't
> mean the rest of us have to stop dreaming!  (:-)
>
> Paul
> Ohio
>
> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 1:07 AM, <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Hey, we're having fun here.
>>
>> Pete
>> ------Original Message------
>> From: Tim Putland
>> Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
>> To: Datsun Roadster List
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
>> Sent: Dec 28, 2012 8:37 PM
>>
>> Are we done  yet?
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Sat Dec 29 10:24:09 2012
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:24:09 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
In-Reply-To: <50DE7C2E.2040609@datsun2000.com>
References: <004c01cde52e$97f4c6b0$c7de5410$@net>
	<CAFEMhEvCtsAigL7jEaHx2pBdkJMNSmogXMOKN8oipuxz2Nevsg@mail.gmail.com>
	<50DDFD00.7010304@RWMann.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP1789580B1AB90837029ED39B43F0@phx.gbl>
	<50DE235B.7070002@bradakis.com> <00d901cde55c$b6940bc0$23bc2340$@net>
	<50DE7C2E.2040609@datsun2000.com>
Message-ID: <003b01cde5e9$50478ee0$f0d6aca0$@net>

I should have become a Ferrari mechanic instead of a lowly software
developer!

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom
Hendricksen
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 9:14 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III

In 1969 I took my 68 2 Liter roadster to Ron Tonkin Gran Tourisimo on
Burnside in downtown Portland, Oregon and looked at a beautiful red '64
Ferrari convertible they had imported.  They imported Ferrari's to avoid the
federal laws coming into effect.  This one was red with a natural interior
and Borani wheels.  It was priced at $4,000, AND according to the
information letter on the window it was the one and only Ferrari built for
the street using a fiberglass body.  I stood by the car for about an hour
trying to convince myself I should buy it.  I could afford to trade my
roadster and buy the car, but a clutch was $500 on the work bench at the
import specialty and Lotus dealer near my home.  A tune-up was about $350,
which I learned when Todd Webb and his nationally recognized Porsche race
team could not tune up a Ferrari he was loaned and he had to pay Ron Tonkin
to tune it up for him, and of course there was the insurance thing as well
as trying to get my mother's car out of the garage so I could put a Ferrari
in it.  I finally walked away without the car.  Today Ron Tonkin still owns
the car.  I have been told it is in his warehouse.  The service manager for
Ferrari here in Las Vegas told me that Tonkin is now the importer, and I
have seen an F1 car being unloaded from a cargo van near his warehouse.  Oh,
and that clutch today?  About $3500 sitting on the work bench.  A
tune-up/service will set you back something North of $1.00/mile driven if
serviced at recommended intervals.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Las Vegas
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org


On 12/28/2012 4:37 PM, Pete Peters wrote:
> Ahhhhh, memories. I found a '68 'Vette for $1500, but the insurance 
> for a single, under 21 sailor was $3000. Ended up w/ a '72 El Camino.
>
> Even more important, in '73, before the Great Oil Embargo, gas was 
> still less than fifty-cents a gallon!
>
> Pete
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark J 
> Bradakis
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 2:55 PM
> To: datsun
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
>
> Years ago my father shipped my old train set out to me here in Utah.  
> He wrapped up the bits in sections of the Indianapolis Star newspaper.  
> Here's some examples of what was in the automotive classifieds back in
1973:
>
>
> '67 Chevelle, 396, 4 spd. $950
>
> '67 Corvette conv. air, power windows, 427, $2,300
>
> Ferrari, 1959 250 GT, 12 cyl. 2 passenger, excel. cond. $4,950
>
> '53 Jag XK120 show car, $3,395
>
> '64 MGB New red paint, new top, luggage rack, very fast, $1,000
>
> '59 MGA, engine good, body needs work $500
>
> '58 Porsche, runs good, $850
>
> '60 Triumph, 4 spd., looks, runs perfect  $300
>
> '64 TR4 wire wheels, new paint, tires, $750
>
> '64 TR4 Rebuilt, mech. perfect, new tires, no rust $850
>
> '56 Morgan Plus 4, excel. orig. condition, $3,500
>
>
> mjb
> ________________________________________
>
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>
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From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Sat Dec 29 11:57:38 2012
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 12:57:38 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
In-Reply-To: <003b01cde5e9$50478ee0$f0d6aca0$@net>
References: <004c01cde52e$97f4c6b0$c7de5410$@net>
	<CAFEMhEvCtsAigL7jEaHx2pBdkJMNSmogXMOKN8oipuxz2Nevsg@mail.gmail.com>
	<50DDFD00.7010304@RWMann.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP1789580B1AB90837029ED39B43F0@phx.gbl>
	<50DE235B.7070002@bradakis.com> <00d901cde55c$b6940bc0$23bc2340$@net>
	<50DE7C2E.2040609@datsun2000.com>
	<003b01cde5e9$50478ee0$f0d6aca0$@net>
Message-ID: <CAMHhs6fuFAc1LArOK-G1H9-u4yycqhSReG8BrUxcidL-=6YfRg@mail.gmail.com>

I've got a Road & Track from the late '60s that in Marketplace lists a
running Birdcage Maserati for around $1K and the deal included a parts car.
I've also heard Bob Bondurant mention that he was offered the Daytona Coupe
he drove at Le Mans for $8000 when Shelby moved to the Ford GT program, but
his dad asked why he wanted to spend THAT kind of money on an old race car.
I think Mecum just sold #26 for around $9 Million!

The real Daytona Coupes have always been my ultimate dream car, and I've
wondered why the 250 GTO Ferraris sell for so much more even though there
were so many more GTOs were built.

Ron

On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>wrote:

> I should have become a Ferrari mechanic instead of a lowly software
> developer!
>
> Gordon Glasgow
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom
> Hendricksen
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 9:14 PM
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
>
> In 1969 I took my 68 2 Liter roadster to Ron Tonkin Gran Tourisimo on
> Burnside in downtown Portland, Oregon and looked at a beautiful red '64
> Ferrari convertible they had imported.  They imported Ferrari's to avoid
> the
> federal laws coming into effect.  This one was red with a natural interior
> and Borani wheels.  It was priced at $4,000, AND according to the
> information letter on the window it was the one and only Ferrari built for
> the street using a fiberglass body.  I stood by the car for about an hour
> trying to convince myself I should buy it.  I could afford to trade my
> roadster and buy the car, but a clutch was $500 on the work bench at the
> import specialty and Lotus dealer near my home.  A tune-up was about $350,
> which I learned when Todd Webb and his nationally recognized Porsche race
> team could not tune up a Ferrari he was loaned and he had to pay Ron Tonkin
> to tune it up for him, and of course there was the insurance thing as well
> as trying to get my mother's car out of the garage so I could put a Ferrari
> in it.  I finally walked away without the car.  Today Ron Tonkin still owns
> the car.  I have been told it is in his warehouse.  The service manager for
> Ferrari here in Las Vegas told me that Tonkin is now the importer, and I
> have seen an F1 car being unloaded from a cargo van near his warehouse.
>  Oh,
> and that clutch today?  About $3500 sitting on the work bench.  A
> tune-up/service will set you back something North of $1.00/mile driven if
> serviced at recommended intervals.
>
> Tom
> 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
> Las Vegas
> http://www.datsun2000.com
> http://www.nowroc.org
>
>
> On 12/28/2012 4:37 PM, Pete Peters wrote:
> > Ahhhhh, memories. I found a '68 'Vette for $1500, but the insurance
> > for a single, under 21 sailor was $3000. Ended up w/ a '72 El Camino.
> >
> > Even more important, in '73, before the Great Oil Embargo, gas was
> > still less than fifty-cents a gallon!
> >
> > Pete
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark J
> > Bradakis
> > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 2:55 PM
> > To: datsun
> > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wanted: Austin Healey Mark III
> >
> > Years ago my father shipped my old train set out to me here in Utah.
> > He wrapped up the bits in sections of the Indianapolis Star newspaper.
> > Here's some examples of what was in the automotive classifieds back in
> 1973:
> >
> >
> > '67 Chevelle, 396, 4 spd. $950
> >
> > '67 Corvette conv. air, power windows, 427, $2,300
> >
> > Ferrari, 1959 250 GT, 12 cyl. 2 passenger, excel. cond. $4,950
> >
> > '53 Jag XK120 show car, $3,395
> >
> > '64 MGB New red paint, new top, luggage rack, very fast, $1,000
> >
> > '59 MGA, engine good, body needs work $500
> >
> > '58 Porsche, runs good, $850
> >
> > '60 Triumph, 4 spd., looks, runs perfect  $300
> >
> > '64 TR4 wire wheels, new paint, tires, $750
> >
> > '64 TR4 Rebuilt, mech. perfect, new tires, no rust $850
> >
> > '56 Morgan Plus 4, excel. orig. condition, $3,500
> >
> >
> > mjb
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From funkaholik at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 29 14:11:12 2012
From: funkaholik at yahoo.com (Erik Miller)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 13:11:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 66 in Azusa CA
Message-ID: <1356815472.13792.YahooMailClassic@web162102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

I see 3 more roadsters in the background, all with faded but more "natural"
paint jobs.  Someone save them from getting rained on with the tops down...

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/3507613531.html

From ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com  Sat Dec 29 16:06:37 2012
From: ragtopman1601 at hotmail.com (Stan Wilkins)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 16:06:37 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 66 in Azusa CA
In-Reply-To: <1356815472.13792.YahooMailClassic@web162102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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  It never rains in California.  Yeah, like it never snows in Arizona

Stan, sitting in Flagstaff with a 60% chance of 2" of white fungus on Sunday

On 12/29/2012 2:11 PM, Erik Miller wrote:
> I see 3 more roadsters in the background, all with faded but more "natural"
> paint jobs.  Someone save them from getting rained on with the tops down...
>
> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/3507613531.html
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From plhbauman at earthlink.net  Sat Dec 29 17:26:59 2012
From: plhbauman at earthlink.net (Paul Bauman)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 16:26:59 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 66 in Azusa CA
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	<BLU0-SMTP1621D92864CB31C48650B80B43E0@phx.gbl>
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Stan:

It's not that it never rains in California. Like nearly everything else 
here, it's just been made illegal.


Paul Bauman
Westminster, CA
67 1600



On 12/29/2012 03:06 PM, Stan Wilkins wrote:
>    It never rains in California.  Yeah, like it never snows in Arizona
>
> Stan, sitting in Flagstaff with a 60% chance of 2" of white fungus on Sunday
>
> On 12/29/2012 2:11 PM, Erik Miller wrote:
>> I see 3 more roadsters in the background, all with faded but more "natural"
>> paint jobs.  Someone save them from getting rained on with the tops down...

From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Sat Dec 29 23:25:27 2012
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 22:25:27 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 66 in Azusa CA
In-Reply-To: <50DF8A53.4080906@earthlink.net>
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I don't know about SoCal, but here in the Bay Area we're 20% to 30%  
ahead of annual averages for rainfall so far this season.

Of course, the SoCal folks never worry, 'cuz they just pump our lakes  
dry to feed their need.

Gary McCormick
Green and mossy in soggy (this year) San Jose

On Dec 29, 2012, at 4:26 PM, Paul Bauman wrote:

> Stan:
>
> It's not that it never rains in California. Like nearly everything  
> else here, it's just been made illegal.
>
>
> Paul Bauman
> Westminster, CA
> 67 1600
>
>
>
> On 12/29/2012 03:06 PM, Stan Wilkins wrote:
>>    It never rains in California.  Yeah, like it never snows in  
>> Arizona
>>
>> Stan, sitting in Flagstaff with a 60% chance of 2" of white fungus  
>> on Sunday
>>
>> On 12/29/2012 2:11 PM, Erik Miller wrote:
>>> I see 3 more roadsters in the background, all with faded but more  
>>> "natural"
>>> paint jobs.  Someone save them from getting rained on with the  
>>> tops down...
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Sat Dec 29 23:57:13 2012
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 22:57:13 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 66 in Azusa CA
In-Reply-To: <CE641875-B405-4DFD-A538-9CBE0B603409@sbcglobal.net>
References: <1356815472.13792.YahooMailClassic@web162102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <006301cde65a$e6251f10$b26f5d30$@net>

Same here in Seattle. Our annual average rainfall is 36" and so far in 2012
we've had 48". That's one-third above average.

Gordon Glasgow


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary McCormick
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 10:25 PM
To: Paul Bauman
Cc: autox
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 66 in Azusa CA

I don't know about SoCal, but here in the Bay Area we're 20% to 30% ahead of
annual averages for rainfall so far this season.

Of course, the SoCal folks never worry, 'cuz they just pump our lakes dry to
feed their need.

Gary McCormick
Green and mossy in soggy (this year) San Jose

On Dec 29, 2012, at 4:26 PM, Paul Bauman wrote:

> Stan:
>
> It's not that it never rains in California. Like nearly everything 
> else here, it's just been made illegal.
>
>
> Paul Bauman
> Westminster, CA
> 67 1600
>
>
>
> On 12/29/2012 03:06 PM, Stan Wilkins wrote:
>>    It never rains in California.  Yeah, like it never snows in 
>> Arizona
>>
>> Stan, sitting in Flagstaff with a 60% chance of 2" of white fungus on 
>> Sunday
>>
>> On 12/29/2012 2:11 PM, Erik Miller wrote:
>>> I see 3 more roadsters in the background, all with faded but more 
>>> "natural"
>>> paint jobs.  Someone save them from getting rained on with the tops 
>>> down...
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From chalsted at comcast.net  Sun Dec 30 04:52:06 2012
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 11:52:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] 66 in Azusa CA
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP1621D92864CB31C48650B80B43E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <968572209.1242143.1356868326547.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

we did about 70 miles on snowmobiles day before yesterday...damn, I'm sore! was in upstate NY for Christmas 

Craig 

From tputland at charter.net  Sun Dec 30 17:47:33 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:47:33 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] part number help
Message-ID: <4ed81702.2c5859.13bee6d87c3.Webtop.47@charter.net>

I have done some looking but can't find this info...

What are these regulators for please:

25020-25900

25020-14600

thanks
tim

From lars.tungen at abaris.no  Sun Dec 30 17:54:31 2012
From: lars.tungen at abaris.no (Lars Tungen)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 01:54:31 +0100
Subject: [Roadsters] part number help
In-Reply-To: <4ed81702.2c5859.13bee6d87c3.Webtop.47@charter.net>
References: <4ed81702.2c5859.13bee6d87c3.Webtop.47@charter.net>
Message-ID: <CANh1YqfQ0wA4g0qqxuV=UJhJ2CbdvhAQOt7CUL8bQZN7-RDxQA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Tim,

They are voltage regulators for the water temp and fuel gauges:

25020-25900 (New number: 25020-47600) fits 1968-70
25020-14600 fits 1965-67.5

http://www.carpartsmanual.com/datsun311/Datsun311Index/Electrical/MeterTubeOilPressureGauge/tabid/230/Default.aspx

Lars Tungen
Norway


On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 1:47 AM, Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:

> I have done some looking but can't find this info...
>
> What are these regulators for please:
>
> 25020-25900
>
> 25020-14600
>
> thanks
> tim
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From graemes at internode.on.net  Sun Dec 30 18:04:38 2012
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:34:38 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] part number help
In-Reply-To: <4ed81702.2c5859.13bee6d87c3.Webtop.47@charter.net>
References: <4ed81702.2c5859.13bee6d87c3.Webtop.47@charter.net>
Message-ID: <50E0E4A6.4090805@internode.on.net>

Hi Tim,
is there a prize?

> I have done some looking but can't find this info...
>
> What are these regulators for please:
>
> 25020-25900  dang, can't find this one, must be similar to below
>
> 25020-14600  is ASS'Y Regulator, voltage, meter.
> A roundabout way of saying Instrument light dimmer!

From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Sun Dec 30 18:06:03 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 20:06:03 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Gauge voltage regulator
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEuE3LzwCrUcuxT55EQ8fhnj=t623nVbdCSfBCEfaO3H0g@mail.gmail.com>

  Before you go searching for a new one, make sure the connections are
clean, as well as the mounting screw(s).  They provide the ground.
  My '69 1600 has lost both those gauges recetnly, and both time the
regulator was fine, but the wiring came loose.

Paul
Ohio

On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Lars Tungen <lars.tungen at abaris.no> wrote:

> Hi Tim,
>
> They are voltage regulators for the water temp and fuel gauges:
>
> 25020-25900 (New number: 25020-47600) fits 1968-70
> 25020-14600 fits 1965-67.5
>
>
> http://www.carpartsmanual.com/datsun311/Datsun311Index/Electrical/MeterTubeOilPressureGauge/tabid/230/Default.aspx
>
> Lars Tungen
> Norway
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 1:47 AM, Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:
>
> > I have done some looking but can't find this info...
> >
> > What are these regulators for please:
> >
> > 25020-25900
> >
> > 25020-14600
> >
> > thanks
> > tim
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From aultgc at att.net  Sun Dec 30 21:05:58 2012
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 22:05:58 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] 66 in Azusa CA
References: <1356815472.13792.YahooMailClassic@web162102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com><BLU0-SMTP1621D92864CB31C48650B80B43E0@phx.gbl><50DF8A53.4080906@earthlink.net><CE641875-B405-4DFD-A538-9CBE0B603409@sbcglobal.net>
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All the reservoirs out there can use the water.

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
To: "'Roadster List'" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 12:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 66 in Azusa CA


> Same here in Seattle. Our annual average rainfall is 36" and so far in 
> 2012
> we've had 48". That's one-third above average.
>
> Gordon Glasgow
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary 
> McCormick
> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 10:25 PM
> To: Paul Bauman
> Cc: autox
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 66 in Azusa CA
>
> I don't know about SoCal, but here in the Bay Area we're 20% to 30% ahead 
> of
> annual averages for rainfall so far this season.
>
> Of course, the SoCal folks never worry, 'cuz they just pump our lakes dry 
> to
> feed their need.
>
> Gary McCormick
> Green and mossy in soggy (this year) San Jose
>
> On Dec 29, 2012, at 4:26 PM, Paul Bauman wrote:
>
>> Stan:
>>
>> It's not that it never rains in California. Like nearly everything
>> else here, it's just been made illegal.
>>
>>
>> Paul Bauman
>> Westminster, CA
>> 67 1600
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/29/2012 03:06 PM, Stan Wilkins wrote:
>>>    It never rains in California.  Yeah, like it never snows in
>>> Arizona
>>>
>>> Stan, sitting in Flagstaff with a 60% chance of 2" of white fungus on
>>> Sunday
>>>
>>> On 12/29/2012 2:11 PM, Erik Miller wrote:
>>>> I see 3 more roadsters in the background, all with faded but more
>>>> "natural"
>>>> paint jobs.  Someone save them from getting rained on with the tops
>>>> down...
>> ________________________________________
>>
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>>
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