From robbpynes at continet.com  Wed Aug  1 16:05:46 2012
From: robbpynes at continet.com (Robb Pynes)
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 15:05:46 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Transmission fluid
Message-ID: <20120801220546.DD203708C3F@zmail-mta02.peak.org>

Hey all,

I have a brass syncro 5 speed 70 Datsun Roadster Tranny

What type, brand, weight oil is recommended, (newly rebuilt)

Thanks
Robb

From futofab at gsinet.net  Wed Aug  1 16:24:22 2012
From: futofab at gsinet.net (David Patten)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 18:24:22 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Transmission fluid
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Robb,
You want a GL4 rated gear lube. Most parts store fluid is GL5 which is
corrosive to brass synchros.

I use Redline MTL.
-- 
Dave Patten, Owner

FutoFab, LLC
199 Stark Hwy So
Dunbarton, NH 03046

Website - www.FutoFab.com <http://www.futofab.com/>
e-mail - dave at futofab.com


On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Robb Pynes <robbpynes at continet.com> wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> I have a brass syncro 5 speed 70 Datsun Roadster Tranny
>
> What type, brand, weight oil is recommended, (newly rebuilt)
>
> Thanks
> Robb
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Wed Aug  1 22:37:17 2012
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 21:37:17 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Transmission fluid
In-Reply-To: <CAC08eSNrZ-vYRpUprffXfE-1hO9yN1soEY=0UAHvDrvqPcdD9Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <000c01cd7068$7fd4e1e0$7f7ea5a0$@net>

I second that. Redline MTL is magic! I've used it in every manual
transmission I've had since about 1990.

My 1984 Stanza 5-speed started to develop a "chunk" going into 2nd gear.
Switched to Redline MTL and within a week it went away almost completely. I
never did have to rebuild the trans.

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Patten
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 3:24 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Transmission fluid

Robb,
You want a GL4 rated gear lube. Most parts store fluid is GL5 which is
corrosive to brass synchros.

I use Redline MTL.
--
Dave Patten, Owner

FutoFab, LLC
199 Stark Hwy So
Dunbarton, NH 03046

Website - www.FutoFab.com <http://www.futofab.com/> e-mail -
dave at futofab.com


On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Robb Pynes <robbpynes at continet.com> wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> I have a brass syncro 5 speed 70 Datsun Roadster Tranny
>
> What type, brand, weight oil is recommended, (newly rebuilt)
>
> Thanks
> Robb
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>
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>
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From jake7140 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug  1 23:17:00 2012
From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 22:17:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Glen
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Good Luck Paul and Tom! Hopefully I'll get one in this year.

 
Steve

Steve's
racing web site
www.NoNameRacing.com
Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society
www.elrss.com


-----------------------------------------------
  Tom Phelan
and I are planning on being there.  Tom will be racing his
2000.

Paul
Ohio

From tputland at charter.net  Thu Aug  2 05:18:53 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 07:18:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] gear box type--was Trany fluid
Message-ID: <15d3e170.200686.138e70f42ab.Webtop.47@charter.net>

Is there an easy way to determine what type (syncro) transmission you 
have?

I will be using the 5 speed from my (now being parted out) 70 2000 in my 
stroker if we ever get it done. (ran into yet another problem with the 
"ready to run" race head I got.)

Or does the tranny have to be opened up by someone who knows these 
boxes?

Thanks
tim


On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Robb Pynes wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> I have a brass syncro 5 speed 70 Datsun Roadster Tranny
>
> What type, brand, weight oil is recommended, (newly rebuilt)
>
> Thanks
> Robb
> ________________________________________
>
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>
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From RWM at RWMann.com  Thu Aug  2 05:38:36 2012
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 07:38:36 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Transmission fluid
In-Reply-To: <000c01cd7068$7fd4e1e0$7f7ea5a0$@net>
References: <20120801220546.DD203708C3F@zmail-mta02.peak.org>
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	<000c01cd7068$7fd4e1e0$7f7ea5a0$@net>
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Same experience here. If there wasn't already a "Marvel Mystery Oil", 
MTL would be it.

- Bob Mann,'68 2000 Solex


On 8/2/2012 12:37 AM, Gordon Glasgow wrote:
> I second that. Redline MTL is magic! I've used it in every manual
> transmission I've had since about 1990.
>
> My 1984 Stanza 5-speed started to develop a "chunk" going into 2nd gear.
> Switched to Redline MTL and within a week it went away almost completely. I
> never did have to rebuild the trans.
>
> Gordon Glasgow
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Patten
> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 3:24 PM
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Transmission fluid
>
> Robb,
> You want a GL4 rated gear lube. Most parts store fluid is GL5 which is
> corrosive to brass synchros.
>
> I use Redline MTL.
> --
> Dave Patten, Owner
>
> FutoFab, LLC
> 199 Stark Hwy So
> Dunbarton, NH 03046
>
> Website - www.FutoFab.com <http://www.futofab.com/> e-mail -
> dave at futofab.com
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Robb Pynes <robbpynes at continet.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I have a brass syncro 5 speed 70 Datsun Roadster Tranny
>>
>> What type, brand, weight oil is recommended, (newly rebuilt)
>>
>> Thanks
>> Robb

From cour.jpeg at gmail.com  Thu Aug  2 06:06:46 2012
From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (Paul Courson)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 08:06:46 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] gear box type--was Trany fluid
In-Reply-To: <15d3e170.200686.138e70f42ab.Webtop.47@charter.net>
References: <15d3e170.200686.138e70f42ab.Webtop.47@charter.net>
Message-ID: <CAAC0-o7rmu_fe+xBMr2wG3mnsNku-D++MvVWpOZ5my6-2SeKHQ@mail.gmail.com>

Do you mean Borg vs. Servo type synchros?

Dann Bramhall at Rallye has a good description on his website. Look under
rebuild kits.
On Aug 2, 2012 7:25 AM, "Tim" <tputland at charter.net> wrote:

> Is there an easy way to determine what type (syncro) transmission you have?
>
> I will be using the 5 speed from my (now being parted out) 70 2000 in my
> stroker if we ever get it done. (ran into yet another problem with the
> "ready to run" race head I got.)
>
> Or does the tranny have to be opened up by someone who knows these boxes?
>
> Thanks
> tim
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Robb Pynes wrote:
>
>  Hey all,
>>
>> I have a brass syncro 5 speed 70 Datsun Roadster Tranny
>>
>> What type, brand, weight oil is recommended, (newly rebuilt)
>>
>> Thanks
>> Robb
>> ______________________________**__________
>>
>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>>
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From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Thu Aug  2 06:38:59 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 08:38:59 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Transmission fluid
In-Reply-To: <501A66BC.8070409@RWMann.com>
References: <20120801220546.DD203708C3F@zmail-mta02.peak.org>
	<CAC08eSNrZ-vYRpUprffXfE-1hO9yN1soEY=0UAHvDrvqPcdD9Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<000c01cd7068$7fd4e1e0$7f7ea5a0$@net> <501A66BC.8070409@RWMann.com>
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  Red Line is great stuff for slightly worn transmissions, but a word of
warning.

  If you have a small drip, Red Line will make it a big drip.  My 1600's 4
speed had a very small drip, one or two drops after each drive.  When I
changed to Red Line MTL, it dumped at least a cup or two after each run.
And since I didn't want to pull the engine again, I switched back to dino
oil and the leak went back to a drop or two.  Now that I have a KA and a
rebuilt 5 speed in it, I use Red Line!

Paul
Ohio

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 7:38 AM, RWM <RWM at rwmann.com> wrote:

> Same experience here. If there wasn't already a "Marvel Mystery Oil", MTL
> would be it.
>
> - Bob Mann,'68 2000 Solex
>
>
> On 8/2/2012 12:37 AM, Gordon Glasgow wrote:
>
>> I second that. Redline MTL is magic! I've used it in every manual
>> transmission I've had since about 1990.
>>
>> My 1984 Stanza 5-speed started to develop a "chunk" going into 2nd gear.
>> Switched to Redline MTL and within a week it went away almost completely.
>> I
>> never did have to rebuild the trans.
>>
>> Gordon Glasgow
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@**autox.team.net<datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net>
>> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-**bounces at autox.team.net<datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net>]
>> On Behalf Of David Patten
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 3:24 PM
>> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Transmission fluid
>>
>> Robb,
>> You want a GL4 rated gear lube. Most parts store fluid is GL5 which is
>> corrosive to brass synchros.
>>
>> I use Redline MTL.
>> --
>> Dave Patten, Owner
>>
>> FutoFab, LLC
>> 199 Stark Hwy So
>> Dunbarton, NH 03046
>>
>> Website - www.FutoFab.com <http://www.futofab.com/> e-mail -
>> dave at futofab.com
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Robb Pynes <robbpynes at continet.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Hey all,
>>>
>>> I have a brass syncro 5 speed 70 Datsun Roadster Tranny
>>>
>>> What type, brand, weight oil is recommended, (newly rebuilt)
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Robb
>>>
>> ______________________________**__________
>
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Thu Aug  2 10:53:27 2012
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 09:53:27 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Transmission fluid
In-Reply-To: <CAFEMhEtYytc7K2sBpBeafaRbQ6Zkg2fE1fKdvj98D4mGO=Pv6Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20120801220546.DD203708C3F@zmail-mta02.peak.org>
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	<000c01cd7068$7fd4e1e0$7f7ea5a0$@net> <501A66BC.8070409@RWMann.com>
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What about using that transmission seal stuff? Does that work?

Linda

Sent from my iPod

On Aug 2, 2012, at 5:38 AM, Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Red Line is great stuff for slightly worn transmissions, but a word of
> warning.
>
>  If you have a small drip, Red Line will make it a big drip.  My 1600's 4
> speed had a very small drip, one or two drops after each drive.  When I
> changed to Red Line MTL, it dumped at least a cup or two after each run.
> And since I didn't want to pull the engine again, I switched back to dino
> oil and the leak went back to a drop or two.  Now that I have a KA and a
> rebuilt 5 speed in it, I use Red Line!
>
> Paul
> Ohio
>
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 7:38 AM, RWM <RWM at rwmann.com> wrote:
>
>> Same experience here. If there wasn't already a "Marvel Mystery Oil", MTL
>> would be it.
>>
>> - Bob Mann,'68 2000 Solex
>>
>>
>> On 8/2/2012 12:37 AM, Gordon Glasgow wrote:
>>
>>> I second that. Redline MTL is magic! I've used it in every manual
>>> transmission I've had since about 1990.
>>>
>>> My 1984 Stanza 5-speed started to develop a "chunk" going into 2nd gear.
>>> Switched to Redline MTL and within a week it went away almost completely.
>>> I
>>> never did have to rebuild the trans.
>>>
>>> Gordon Glasgow
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:
datsun-roadsters-bounces@**autox.team.net<datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team
.net>
>>>
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-**bounces at autox.team.net<datsun-roadsters-bounces at au
tox.team.net>]
>>> On Behalf Of David Patten
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 3:24 PM
>>> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Transmission fluid
>>>
>>> Robb,
>>> You want a GL4 rated gear lube. Most parts store fluid is GL5 which is
>>> corrosive to brass synchros.
>>>
>>> I use Redline MTL.
>>> --
>>> Dave Patten, Owner
>>>
>>> FutoFab, LLC
>>> 199 Stark Hwy So
>>> Dunbarton, NH 03046
>>>
>>> Website - www.FutoFab.com <http://www.futofab.com/> e-mail -
>>> dave at futofab.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Robb Pynes <robbpynes at continet.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>>
>>>> I have a brass syncro 5 speed 70 Datsun Roadster Tranny
>>>>
>>>> What type, brand, weight oil is recommended, (newly rebuilt)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Robb
>>>>
>>> ______________________________**__________
>>
>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>>
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Thu Aug  2 13:10:51 2012
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 12:10:51 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] gear box type--was Trany fluid
In-Reply-To: <CAAC0-o7rmu_fe+xBMr2wG3mnsNku-D++MvVWpOZ5my6-2SeKHQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <15d3e170.200686.138e70f42ab.Webtop.47@charter.net>
	<CAAC0-o7rmu_fe+xBMr2wG3mnsNku-D++MvVWpOZ5my6-2SeKHQ@mail.gmail.com>
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While Dann is basically correct about not being able to rely on the cases to
tell which type of box you have, I have five transmissions in my garage at
the moment. Three have the early style case
(http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Trans/Early_style_case_1.jpg and
http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Trans/Early_style_case_2.jpg) and the other
two have the later-style case
(http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Trans/Late_style_case_1.jpg and
http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Trans/Late_style_case_2.jpg).

All of the early-case boxes are servo synchro and both of the later-case
boxes are Borg-Warner. I'm not saying you can rely on that, but it is
consistent in the boxes that I have. But the only way to tell for sure is to
look inside.

This is what the servo-style looks like when you look through the fill hole
in the side: http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Trans/Servo_synchro_1.jpg.

I tried to take a picture of the BW style but my camera wouldn't get a good
image, so I had to resort to a shot of a junk BW gearset that I have lying
around: http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Trans/Borg_Warner_synchro_1.jpg.

Of course you can't really get a good view through the fill hole when the
trans is in the car.

Gordon Glasgow


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Courson
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 5:07 AM
To: Tim
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] gear box type--was Trany fluid

Do you mean Borg vs. Servo type synchros?

Dann Bramhall at Rallye has a good description on his website. Look under
rebuild kits.
On Aug 2, 2012 7:25 AM, "Tim" <tputland at charter.net> wrote:

> Is there an easy way to determine what type (syncro) transmission you
have?
>
> I will be using the 5 speed from my (now being parted out) 70 2000 in 
> my stroker if we ever get it done. (ran into yet another problem with 
> the "ready to run" race head I got.)
>
> Or does the tranny have to be opened up by someone who knows these boxes?
>
> Thanks
> tim
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Robb Pynes wrote:
>
>  Hey all,
>>
>> I have a brass syncro 5 speed 70 Datsun Roadster Tranny
>>
>> What type, brand, weight oil is recommended, (newly rebuilt)
>>
>> Thanks
>> Robb
>> ______________________________**__________
>>
>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>>
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From hogan8862 at comcast.net  Fri Aug  3 12:54:51 2012
From: hogan8862 at comcast.net (Pat & Linda)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 11:54:51 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] seat belt
Message-ID: <5419BE09ADFB487B8F313652F8473369@your4f1261a8e5>

     my 1969 2000--doesnt have any seatbelts, want to take my grandkids for 
ride but grandma says no can do,with out belts.  Does anyone have extra's 

From cour.jpeg at gmail.com  Fri Aug  3 13:11:49 2012
From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (Paul Courson)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 15:11:49 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] seat belt
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I just ordered NEW belts for best peace of mind.

The nylon degrades in sunlight. It's been 40 years.

Do online search until I can pull up the vendor from old email.

Nice set. Chrome buckle lift latch and non retractable. Lap belt set only,
in my case.

Not expensive.
On Aug 3, 2012 2:51 PM, "Pat & Linda" <hogan8862 at comcast.net> wrote:

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> ride but grandma says no can do,with out belts.  Does anyone have extra's
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From jones_barton at msn.com  Fri Aug  3 13:45:15 2012
From: jones_barton at msn.com (Jones Barton)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 12:45:15 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] seat belt
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Before I went back to the original look, I got a pair of seat belts from J.C.
Whitney. They did the trick but looked to modern
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  Subject: Re: [Roadsters] seat belt


  I just ordered NEW belts for best peace of mind.

  The nylon degrades in sunlight. It's been 40 years.

  Do online search until I can pull up the vendor from old email.

  Nice set. Chrome buckle lift latch and non retractable. Lap belt set only,
  in my case.

  Not expensive.
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From escarcega at cox.net  Fri Aug  3 15:14:16 2012
From: escarcega at cox.net (Marty Escarcega)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 14:14:16 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Available: 4spd Trans
In-Reply-To: <mailman.7.1344016802.20998.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <20120803171416.E5GKN.582134.imail@fed1rmwml303>

We have the 4 speed transmission out of our 67 Roadster available. Have Clutch, pressure plate and throw out bearing as well.
We are in Mesa, AZ 85206. It did shift well when we pulled the engine. Make a reasonable offer?

Also have original steel wheels with good hub cap tabs available. I figure they weigh 20lbs each I know shipping makes it difficult. We had them media blasted and we painted them a semi gloss black. We are asking $100

Marty

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Fri Aug  3 17:15:25 2012
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (dave n)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 18:15:25 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] seat belt
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seat belts for a 70's triumph spitfire from victoria british are available 
in a number of colors and I think fit well.  that's what I used.  nice 
vintage chrome buckle, includes the shoulder harness.  bolt it right into 
the fender in the back, put a fat wide washer under it.



-----Original Message----- 
From: Paul Courson
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 2:11 PM
To: Pat & Linda
Cc: &gt,
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] seat belt

I just ordered NEW belts for best peace of mind.

The nylon degrades in sunlight. It's been 40 years.

Do online search until I can pull up the vendor from old email.

Nice set. Chrome buckle lift latch and non retractable. Lap belt set only,
in my case.

From geegc at aol.com  Fri Aug  3 17:44:02 2012
From: geegc at aol.com (geegc at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 23:44:02 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] seat belt
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A very fat washer. Or it might pull through the metal. 
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

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Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 18:15:25 
To: Datsun<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] seat belt

seat belts for a 70's triumph spitfire from victoria british are available 
in a number of colors and I think fit well.  that's what I used.  nice 
vintage chrome buckle, includes the shoulder harness.  bolt it right into 
the fender in the back, put a fat wide washer under it.



-----Original Message----- 
From: Paul Courson
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 2:11 PM
To: Pat & Linda
Cc: &gt,
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] seat belt

I just ordered NEW belts for best peace of mind.

The nylon degrades in sunlight. It's been 40 years.

Do online search until I can pull up the vendor from old email.

Nice set. Chrome buckle lift latch and non retractable. Lap belt set only,
in my case.
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Fri Aug  3 18:40:15 2012
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 17:40:15 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] seat belt
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Message-ID: <SNT106-W51E1490492D0A87C37A4D4DFC90@phx.gbl>

Given that it "might pull through the metal", might it not make sense to use a
LONGER bolt for shoulder harness and put the washer (or even a drilled PLATE,
on the OUTER side of the car (presuming it is accessible) pus another nut
FWIW


Peter Harrison - Eliza [TOAD SAN]
818 448 3181


> A very fat washer. Or it might pull through the metal.

From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  3 18:57:48 2012
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 17:57:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] seat belt
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hi Everyone
Maybe I missed something, but why not use the existing reinforced, tapped holes?
s
675MIZU




________________________________
From: peter harrison <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>
To: datsun <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, August 3, 2012 5:46:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] seat belt

Given that it "might pull through the metal", might it not make sense to use a
LONGER bolt for shoulder harness and put the washer (or even a drilled PLATE,
on the OUTER side of the car (presuming it is accessible) pus another nut
FWIW


Peter Harrison - Eliza [TOAD SAN]
818 448 3181


> A very fat washer. Or it might pull through the metal.
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Fri Aug  3 20:26:03 2012
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 19:26:03 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] seat belt
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i think steve that there is a concern that the provided inserts may not be
strong enough in a serious collsion- but in reality - based upon what I have
heard from an expert I know, there is a danger from spinal compression if the
shoulder belt height is lower than the height of the rear of the seat and the
shoulder of the individual is  higher than the seat back  - still better than
nothing though

Peter Harrison - Eliza [TOAD SAN]
818 448 3181


Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 17:57:48 -0700
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] seat belt
To: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net

hi Everyone
Maybe I missed something, but why not use the existing reinforced, tapped
holes?
s
675MIZU

From: peter harrison <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>
To: datsun <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, August 3, 2012 5:46:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] seat belt


Given that it "might pull through the metal", might it not make sense to use
a
LONGER bolt for shoulder harness and put the washer (or even a drilled PLATE,
on the OUTER side of the car (presuming it is accessible) pus another nut
FWIW


Peter Harrison - Eliza [TOAD SAN]
818 448 3181


> A very fat washer. Or it might pull through the metal.
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Fri Aug  3 22:37:29 2012
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 21:37:29 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Rattling Engine and Ghostly EngintTurnover
Message-ID: <SNT106-W180A9E8D0E785441480F2CDFC90@phx.gbl>

1 1970 1600 Stroker with 1.5K ++ miles - carefully broken in to 1K
1)Symptoms - Rattle at 2K + - only goes away at 2K- since I don't want to rev
it - oil ok (10-40)  - tooke car out of gear and symtomps duyplicated -
thorts
2) Turn engine off after running it - position key to accessories - turn one
click before strating and engine slightly cranks - like there is somehting
left to do - thorts ??


Peter Harrison - Eliza [TOAD SAN]
818 448 3181

From aultgc at att.net  Fri Aug  3 22:46:14 2012
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 21:46:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] seat belt
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Steve,

Many of the original shoulder harness mounting points have probably ben 
upholstered over through the years.

Gary



________________________________
From: steven boortz <vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com>
To: peter harrison <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>; datsun 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, August 3, 2012 8:01:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] seat belt

hi Everyone
Maybe I missed something, but why not use the existing reinforced, tapped holes?
s
675MIZU




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From: peter harrison <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>
To: datsun <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, August 3, 2012 5:46:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] seat belt

Given that it "might pull through the metal", might it not make sense to use a
LONGER bolt for shoulder harness and put the washer (or even a drilled PLATE,
on the OUTER side of the car (presuming it is accessible) pus another nut
FWIW


Peter Harrison - Eliza [TOAD SAN]
818 448 3181


> A very fat washer. Or it might pull through the metal.
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From tom at datsun2000.com  Sat Aug  4 08:14:12 2012
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen)
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2012 07:14:12 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] seat belt
Message-ID: <501D2E34.1020300@datsun2000.com>

Good point.  Having hit a curb head-on at about 30 MPH or so in a 
roadster and the factory belts held and allowed me to put the top back 
and step out of the car over the door.  I have no problem with the 
factory belt mounting design.  I would like to explore recoiling seat 
belts, but probably won't make a big design change.

I hit the curb because a 67 Chevy turned left into the left front fender 
of my roadster.  The Chevy spun 180 degrees after impact because I was 
moving at about 45-50 MPH at the time of impact.  You can see the result 
on the opening page of my web site.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Las Vegas
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org


On 8/3/2012 5:57:48 PM, steven boortz (vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com) wrote:
 > hi Everyone
 > Maybe I missed something, but why not use the existing reinforced, 
tapped holes?
 > s
 > 675MIZU
 >
 >
 >
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 > From: peter harrison <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>
 > To: datsun <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
 > Sent: Fri, August 3, 2012 5:46:14 PM
 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] seat belt
 >
 > Given that it "might pull through the metal", might it not make sense 
to use a
 > LONGER bolt for shoulder harness and put the washer (or even a 
drilled PLATE,
 > on the OUTER side of the car (presuming it is accessible) pus another nut
 > FWIW
 >
 >
 > Peter Harrison - Eliza [TOAD SAN]
 > 818 448 3181
 >
 >
 > > A very fat washer. Or it might pull through the metal.
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From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Sat Aug  4 10:49:08 2012
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (dave n)
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 11:49:08 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] seat belt
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good point.  my car is an early 67 and there were mounts for the lap belt 
but not the shoulder

-----Original Message----- 
From: steven boortz
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 7:57 PM
To: peter harrison ; datsun
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] seat belt

hi Everyone
Maybe I missed something, but why not use the existing reinforced, tapped 
holes?
s
675MIZU

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Sun Aug  5 22:33:36 2012
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 21:33:36 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Need Pickup ( OTY )
Message-ID: <SNT106-W58B8C073E3677E3CB890DADFCF0@phx.gbl>

Completely off topic
I need to purchase a reliable pickuo i(@$2500)n the los angeles area - not so
concerned about the body (no dramatic rust or dents)
If anyone has any leads - please let me know
thanks

Peter Harrison - Eliza [TOAD SAN]
818 448 3181

From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Mon Aug  6 08:03:41 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 10:03:41 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 in Arkansas?
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEvMuHHSJ=R3D6_Vs4ObJ2U+LSJ2cMtMMjsHKz1cVwPEHQ@mail.gmail.com>

  So who got the 67.5 1600 in Arkansas for only $1500?  I know he was
asking twice that much on Craig's list before listing it on eBay.  Somebody
got a good deal.

Paul
Ohio

From roadster68 at shaw.ca  Mon Aug  6 11:20:29 2012
From: roadster68 at shaw.ca (Larry Dziuba)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 11:20:29 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch Acting Up
References: <8CEFCEF07184F13-11D0-20C5F@Webmail-d110.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <ADF3F2B6501644DF8C20200FED0AA62C@useravjfzd6udp>

I drove my 68 2000 5 speed yesterday.  I thought I felt something metal like 
when shifting at low speed.  Did not feel right at all.  Could my clutch be 
gone?  Larry.


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From robbieharrison at comcast.net  Mon Aug  6 14:20:46 2012
From: robbieharrison at comcast.net (Robbie Harrison)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 16:20:46 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 2 1600s scrapped
Message-ID: <002f01cd7410$fa605b50$ef2111f0$@comcast.net>

The two free 1600s in Elizabeth City, NC are gone to the scrapper. Mom had
them towed this earlier today. Thanks to everyone who inquired. 

VIN numbers SPL311-31112 and SPL311-27414 have been updated to the registry.

Robbie Harrison 

down to 5 non-op 2000s

From chalsted at comcast.net  Mon Aug  6 15:42:09 2012
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 21:42:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] SRL311-00006 for sale short time offer
Message-ID: <1619828426.152144.1344289329098.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

short time offer... 

so I have a rust free dent free bodyshell in LA to do a rebody on #6...I'm putting it on UShip.com to get bids to ship back here to Virginia so won't be out there for much more than another week. 
the deal... 
the car which is out here- 38k miles on chassis, both rear quarters and back panel need replacing or easier to do the rebody 
don't have the original engine, will provide a U20 and 5spd with the car 
comes with some NOS parts: rear bumper, original frosted headlight scoops, a side mirror, rear wheel cylinders, visors (NOS but flawed) taillights,some other stuff 
rechromed front bumper and bumper overriders 
very nice grille 
nice original license trim 
sea ts with headrests 
nice side trim 
good soft top frame with latches 
good hardtop 
dash has a couple small nicks, all gauges in good shape, radio console with radio good shape, good original shift plate , center armrest console not as nice 
price $10k including the body shell (roller) out in LA , shipping of both cars on your nickel. 

once the shell out in LA gets shipped, no longer makes sense to sell at that price, would likely become my winter project. 
so I guess the time window is from now until I make a committment to a shipper to get it back here...I think I have 3 days to accept any bid 

prices on the half year 2000's are going up...good price for what I'm offering out and not too many single digit serial number cars come up for sale 
can reach me by e-mail or phone 540-631-5852 

From nolan at mortarsprayer.com  Mon Aug  6 23:12:48 2012
From: nolan at mortarsprayer.com (Nolan)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 22:12:48 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Best bucket seats for a roadster?
Message-ID: <00e301cd745b$4cb775b0$e6266110$@com>

Hello Friends,

After 25 plus years of ownership it is time to get the roadster back on the
road. My son is 14. I wish you all could have seen the look on his face when
we took the car cover off and that bright red paint, black stripes and
"Power by Colvin" stood out to him.  Since he has realized what is there, he
totally lost interest in the other cars and wants to drive the Roadster.

I admit I am looking forward to the flames that shoot out the side exhaust
and the sound of the 2350 stroker motor wound tight. Technology has moved on
but this still sounds like fun.

 

We are replacing all braided lines and miscellaneous rubber in the car.  Now
we need to find some snug fitting seats. The originals were the fiberglass
buckets that would hold on to a person in the corners but probably not very
helpful in an accident. 

These Forza seats look great but I am concerned about how the flared (24"
dimension) will fit with the roll bar. It looks like the wide part is
forward and may be ok.

http://www.corbeau.com/product_images/lineart_popup.php?img=/product_images/
forza/black_cloth/Forza_wide-L.gif
<http://www.corbeau.com/product_images/lineart_popup.php?img=/product_images
/forza/black_cloth/Forza_wide-L.gif&title=Forza> &title=Forza

 

The Clubman measures smaller but also tilts back more. The tilt could be an
issue next to the roll bar.

http://www.corbeau.com/product_images/lineart_popup.php?img=/product_images/
clubman/black_cloth/Clubman-L.gif
<http://www.corbeau.com/product_images/lineart_popup.php?img=/product_images
/clubman/black_cloth/Clubman-L.gif&title=Clubman> &title=Clubman 

 

I am hoping that you can help with suggestions for something similar.
Something lightweight, low and fits like a glove.

 

 

Best regards,

Nolan

(In Eugene)

From wilrobasy at hotmail.com  Tue Aug  7 01:20:44 2012
From: wilrobasy at hotmail.com (robert williams)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 17:20:44 +1000
Subject: [Roadsters] Air cond for a roadster
Message-ID: <BAY150-W36FAEF08B05676FDAE7E13A9CE0@phx.gbl>

I am looking to move to a very warm tropical climate where it is almost above
30c every day of the year and very humid.
Heading to the tropics of south east asia and thinking of taking the fairlady
with me when it is finished the ground up resto (about 85%) complete now.

Anyway this low screen 1600 sporty will not be to practical up there without
some air cond.
Has anyone gone down the path of fitting AC to one of these with an under dash
unit.

I remember from the days when I was playing around with late 60's and early
70's model holdens (GM for you guys in the northern part of the world) there
was a heap of large under dash A/C units.
Does anyone know if they have come down in size over the years?

Did these cars ever have a snog pump installed in the USA on the 1600cc
engine?
If so maybe the mounting brackets for the SMOG pump could be modified to carry
an A/C compressor.

Any constructive thoughts and ideas would be appreciated.

regards

Roberts

From pat at hornesystemstx.com  Tue Aug  7 06:49:27 2012
From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 07:49:27 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Air cond for a roadster
In-Reply-To: <BAY150-W36FAEF08B05676FDAE7E13A9CE0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY150-W36FAEF08B05676FDAE7E13A9CE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <50210ED7.9010404@hornesystemstx.com>

Living in Texas, I have also been thinking about A/C in my 67.5. Instead 
of putting an under-dash unit I was thinking about doing something 
similar to what I've seen on Bobcat loaders, which is that the A/C 
registers are behind and to the side of the operator, blowing cold air 
onto your arms and legs. This really helps a lot, even when the loader 
doesn't have an enclosed cab.

There is a lot of room under the package shelf on our cars, as long as 
you stay away from the drive shaft and axles, so I have been thinking 
about putting the condensers and evaporator there. As for the 
compressor, I haven't decided yet. I hear that some new small vehicles 
have electrically-driven compressors which, I'm sure, draw a lot of 
power, but with a larger alternator may make things easier to install. 
There are also small compressors used on sub-compacts that should be 
easier on the engine than the larger compressors. I will be going to a 
shop tomorrow and will see what they know about this.

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake robert williams, On 8/7/2012 2:20 AM:
> I am looking to move to a very warm tropical climate where it is almost above
> 30c every day of the year and very humid.
> Heading to the tropics of south east asia and thinking of taking the fairlady
> with me when it is finished the ground up resto (about 85%) complete now.
>
> Anyway this low screen 1600 sporty will not be to practical up there without
> some air cond.
> Has anyone gone down the path of fitting AC to one of these with an under dash
> unit.
>
> I remember from the days when I was playing around with late 60's and early
> 70's model holdens (GM for you guys in the northern part of the world) there
> was a heap of large under dash A/C units.
> Does anyone know if they have come down in size over the years?
>
> Did these cars ever have a snog pump installed in the USA on the 1600cc
> engine?
> If so maybe the mounting brackets for the SMOG pump could be modified to carry
> an A/C compressor.
>
> Any constructive thoughts and ideas would be appreciated.
>
> regards
>
> Roberts
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From davidbentz at gmail.com  Tue Aug  7 07:52:49 2012
From: davidbentz at gmail.com (David Bentz)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 09:52:49 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Air cond for a roadster
In-Reply-To: <50210ED7.9010404@hornesystemstx.com>
References: <BAY150-W36FAEF08B05676FDAE7E13A9CE0@phx.gbl>
	<50210ED7.9010404@hornesystemstx.com>
Message-ID: <CALO7pZrp245kmfsmt13HY9-=J-yK=UCAp+oDxOiypMR5SsjPKQ@mail.gmail.com>

call me weird, but a/c in a roadster...isn't that kind of like
enjoying shaved ice in alaska?

drop the top, step on the gas, and volia!



On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Pat Horne <pat at hornesystemstx.com> wrote:

> Living in Texas, I have also been thinking about A/C in my 67.5. Instead
> of putting an under-dash unit I was thinking about doing something similar
> to what I've seen on Bobcat loaders, which is that the A/C registers are
> behind and to the side of the operator, blowing cold air onto your arms and
> legs. This really helps a lot, even when the loader doesn't have an
> enclosed cab.
>
> There is a lot of room under the package shelf on our cars, as long as you
> stay away from the drive shaft and axles, so I have been thinking about
> putting the condensers and evaporator there. As for the compressor, I
> haven't decided yet. I hear that some new small vehicles have
> electrically-driven compressors which, I'm sure, draw a lot of power, but
> with a larger alternator may make things easier to install. There are also
> small compressors used on sub-compacts that should be easier on the engine
> than the larger compressors. I will be going to a shop tomorrow and will
> see what they know about this.
>
> Peace,
> Pat
>
> Thusly spake robert williams, On 8/7/2012 2:20 AM:
>
>> I am looking to move to a very warm tropical climate where it is almost
>> above
>> 30c every day of the year and very humid.
>> Heading to the tropics of south east asia and thinking of taking the
>> fairlady
>> with me when it is finished the ground up resto (about 85%) complete now.
>>
>> Anyway this low screen 1600 sporty will not be to practical up there
>> without
>> some air cond.
>> Has anyone gone down the path of fitting AC to one of these with an under
>> dash
>> unit.
>>
>> I remember from the days when I was playing around with late 60's and
>> early
>> 70's model holdens (GM for you guys in the northern part of the world)
>> there
>> was a heap of large under dash A/C units.
>> Does anyone know if they have come down in size over the years?
>>
>> Did these cars ever have a snog pump installed in the USA on the 1600cc
>> engine?
>> If so maybe the mounting brackets for the SMOG pump could be modified to
>> carry
>> an A/C compressor.
>>
>> Any constructive thoughts and ideas would be appreciated.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Roberts
>> ______________________________**__________
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Tue Aug  7 09:02:24 2012
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 08:02:24 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Air cond for a roadster
In-Reply-To: <CALO7pZrp245kmfsmt13HY9-=J-yK=UCAp+oDxOiypMR5SsjPKQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY150-W36FAEF08B05676FDAE7E13A9CE0@phx.gbl>
	<50210ED7.9010404@hornesystemstx.com>
	<CALO7pZrp245kmfsmt13HY9-=J-yK=UCAp+oDxOiypMR5SsjPKQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A963F7FA-7DBB-4E1C-875E-325F00CCE32B@sbcglobal.net>

When it's hot (& humid), the "top down, step on it" thing doesn't work so
well, and you have to stop some time. Whenever people talk about "convertible
weather" when it's sunny & 90+ deg out, I say, "No, this is bhardtop with
A/C weatherb; this evening when the sun is going down and the temperature is
lower b THAT will be bconvertible weatherb." ;^)

Gary McCormick
San JosC), CA

Sent from my iPod

On Aug 7, 2012, at 6:52 AM, David Bentz <davidbentz at gmail.com> wrote:

> call me weird, but a/c in a roadster...isn't that kind of like
> enjoying shaved ice in alaska?
>
> drop the top, step on the gas, and volia!
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Pat Horne <pat at hornesystemstx.com> wrote:
>
>> Living in Texas, I have also been thinking about A/C in my 67.5. Instead
>> of putting an under-dash unit I was thinking about doing something similar
>> to what I've seen on Bobcat loaders, which is that the A/C registers are
>> behind and to the side of the operator, blowing cold air onto your arms
and
>> legs. This really helps a lot, even when the loader doesn't have an
>> enclosed cab.
>>
>> There is a lot of room under the package shelf on our cars, as long as you
>> stay away from the drive shaft and axles, so I have been thinking about
>> putting the condensers and evaporator there. As for the compressor, I
>> haven't decided yet. I hear that some new small vehicles have
>> electrically-driven compressors which, I'm sure, draw a lot of power, but
>> with a larger alternator may make things easier to install. There are also
>> small compressors used on sub-compacts that should be easier on the engine
>> than the larger compressors. I will be going to a shop tomorrow and will
>> see what they know about this.
>>
>> Peace,
>> Pat
>>
>> Thusly spake robert williams, On 8/7/2012 2:20 AM:
>>
>>> I am looking to move to a very warm tropical climate where it is almost
>>> above
>>> 30c every day of the year and very humid.
>>> Heading to the tropics of south east asia and thinking of taking the
>>> fairlady
>>> with me when it is finished the ground up resto (about 85%) complete now.
>>>
>>> Anyway this low screen 1600 sporty will not be to practical up there
>>> without
>>> some air cond.
>>> Has anyone gone down the path of fitting AC to one of these with an under
>>> dash
>>> unit.
>>>
>>> I remember from the days when I was playing around with late 60's and
>>> early
>>> 70's model holdens (GM for you guys in the northern part of the world)
>>> there
>>> was a heap of large under dash A/C units.
>>> Does anyone know if they have come down in size over the years?
>>>
>>> Did these cars ever have a snog pump installed in the USA on the 1600cc
>>> engine?
>>> If so maybe the mounting brackets for the SMOG pump could be modified to
>>> carry
>>> an A/C compressor.
>>>
>>> Any constructive thoughts and ideas would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Roberts
>>> ______________________________**__________
>>>
>>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>>>
>>> Donate:
http://www.team.net/donate.**html<http://www.team.net/donate.html>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
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>> (512) 797-7501 Voice          5026 FM 2001
>> Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com  Lockhart, TX 78644-4443
>> www.hornesystemstx.com
>> -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT --
>> ______________________________**__________
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From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  7 10:00:19 2012
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 09:00:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Air cond for a roadster
Message-ID: <1344355219.54981.androidMobile@web180803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi everyone
You might check out a company called "Vintage Air."
S
675MIZU


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From geegc at aol.com  Tue Aug  7 10:23:46 2012
From: geegc at aol.com (Geegc)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 12:23:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Air cond for a roadster
In-Reply-To: <CALO7pZrp245kmfsmt13HY9-=J-yK=UCAp+oDxOiypMR5SsjPKQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY150-W36FAEF08B05676FDAE7E13A9CE0@phx.gbl>
	<50210ED7.9010404@hornesystemstx.com>
	<CALO7pZrp245kmfsmt13HY9-=J-yK=UCAp+oDxOiypMR5SsjPKQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CF42D02722EF72-10DC-14E33@angweb-usd004.sysops.aol.com>

I agree, and one could probably buy a 15 year old Civic with working AC for
what it would cost in time, $ and aggravation to put AC in a roadster.


Gary




-----Original Message-----
From: David Bentz <davidbentz at gmail.com>
To: pat <pat at hornesystemstx.com>
Cc: datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Aug 7, 2012 7:03 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Air cond for a roadster


call me weird, but a/c in a roadster...isn't that kind of like
enjoying shaved ice in alaska?

drop the top, step on the gas, and volia!



On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Pat Horne <pat at hornesystemstx.com> wrote:

> Living in Texas, I have also been thinking about A/C in my 67.5. Instead
> of putting an under-dash unit I was thinking about doing something similar
> to what I've seen on Bobcat loaders, which is that the A/C registers are
> behind and to the side of the operator, blowing cold air onto your arms and
> legs. This really helps a lot, even when the loader doesn't have an
> enclosed cab.
>
> There is a lot of room under the package shelf on our cars, as long as you
> stay away from the drive shaft and axles, so I have been thinking about
> putting the condensers and evaporator there. As for the compressor, I
> haven't decided yet. I hear that some new small vehicles have
> electrically-driven compressors which, I'm sure, draw a lot of power, but
> with a larger alternator may make things easier to install. There are also
> small compressors used on sub-compacts that should be easier on the engine
> than the larger compressors. I will be going to a shop tomorrow and will
> see what they know about this.
>
> Peace,
> Pat
>
> Thusly spake robert williams, On 8/7/2012 2:20 AM:
>
>> I am looking to move to a very warm tropical climate where it is almost
>> above
>> 30c every day of the year and very humid.
>> Heading to the tropics of south east asia and thinking of taking the
>> fairlady
>> with me when it is finished the ground up resto (about 85%) complete now.
>>
>> Anyway this low screen 1600 sporty will not be to practical up there
>> without
>> some air cond.
>> Has anyone gone down the path of fitting AC to one of these with an under
>> dash
>> unit.
>>
>> I remember from the days when I was playing around with late 60's and
>> early
>> 70's model holdens (GM for you guys in the northern part of the world)
>> there
>> was a heap of large under dash A/C units.
>> Does anyone know if they have come down in size over the years?
>>
>> Did these cars ever have a snog pump installed in the USA on the 1600cc
>> engine?
>> If so maybe the mounting brackets for the SMOG pump could be modified to
>> carry
>> an A/C compressor.
>>
>> Any constructive thoughts and ideas would be appreciated.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Roberts
>> ______________________________**__________
>>
>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> --
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> (512) 797-7501 Voice          5026 FM 2001
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> www.hornesystemstx.com
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From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Tue Aug  7 10:32:34 2012
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:32:34 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Air cond for a roadster
In-Reply-To: <1344355219.54981.androidMobile@web180803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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There are several companies like Vintage Air. I'm planning on checking
several out when I get ready to build up one of my 510s. I bought my '73
with working A/C and I still have the inside, under dash unit, but I'll be
looking for a completely new system using a small compressor like a Sanden
instead of the huge York recip unit that was on the car.

For me, I don't see that A/C would be that useful in a roadster unless
you're running a hardtop, but that's coming from a 65 year old guy who's
selling his roadster because it's not that easy to get in and out of, and
who lives in central Texas.

Ron

On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:00 AM, steven boortz <
vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone
> You might check out a company called "Vintage Air."
> S
> 675MIZU
>
>
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From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Tue Aug  7 10:37:18 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 12:37:18 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Air cond for a roadster
In-Reply-To: <50210ED7.9010404@hornesystemstx.com>
References: <BAY150-W36FAEF08B05676FDAE7E13A9CE0@phx.gbl>
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  Wasn't there a roadster posted to the list a while back that had the A/C
unit mounted in the trunk and fed air through the package shelf?

Paul  -  Or am I just getting old(er)?
Ohio

On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Pat Horne <pat at hornesystemstx.com> wrote:

> Living in Texas, I have also been thinking about A/C in my 67.5. Instead
> of putting an under-dash unit I was thinking about doing something similar
> to what I've seen on Bobcat loaders, which is that the A/C registers are
> behind and to the side of the operator, blowing cold air onto your arms and
> legs. This really helps a lot, even when the loader doesn't have an
> enclosed cab.
>
> There is a lot of room under the package shelf on our cars, as long as you
> stay away from the drive shaft and axles, so I have been thinking about
> putting the condensers and evaporator there. As for the compressor, I
> haven't decided yet. I hear that some new small vehicles have
> electrically-driven compressors which, I'm sure, draw a lot of power, but
> with a larger alternator may make things easier to install. There are also
> small compressors used on sub-compacts that should be easier on the engine
> than the larger compressors. I will be going to a shop tomorrow and will
> see what they know about this.
>
> Peace,
> Pat
>
> Thusly spake robert williams, On 8/7/2012 2:20 AM:
>
>> I am looking to move to a very warm tropical climate where it is almost
>> above
>> 30c every day of the year and very humid.
>> Heading to the tropics of south east asia and thinking of taking the
>> fairlady
>> with me when it is finished the ground up resto (about 85%) complete now.
>>
>> Anyway this low screen 1600 sporty will not be to practical up there
>> without
>> some air cond.
>> Has anyone gone down the path of fitting AC to one of these with an under
>> dash
>> unit.
>>
>> I remember from the days when I was playing around with late 60's and
>> early
>> 70's model holdens (GM for you guys in the northern part of the world)
>> there
>> was a heap of large under dash A/C units.
>> Does anyone know if they have come down in size over the years?
>>
>> Did these cars ever have a snog pump installed in the USA on the 1600cc
>> engine?
>> If so maybe the mounting brackets for the SMOG pump could be modified to
>> carry
>> an A/C compressor.
>>
>> Any constructive thoughts and ideas would be appreciated.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Roberts
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From nolan at mortarsprayer.com  Tue Aug  7 12:17:48 2012
From: nolan at mortarsprayer.com (Nolan)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:17:48 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 2350 stroker (was "Best bucket seats for a
	roadster?")
In-Reply-To: <010101cd74c4$7c5faf30$751f0d90$@net>
References: <00e301cd745b$4cb775b0$e6266110$@com>
	<010101cd74c4$7c5faf30$751f0d90$@net>
Message-ID: <005e01cd74c8$f4427650$dcc762f0$@com>

Hello Pete,
Thanks for writing. 

It is a U20 built by Vern Colvin. His daughter Renee was my sweetheart in
school. Vern sold me his roadster and then built the stroker motor for it.

The block was bored, o-ringed and detailed. It has Chevy Cosworth pistons.
The crank was welded, machined, shotpeened and double nitrided.  The head
work was pretty neat with all the inside radiuses detailed like a golf ball
with dimples. Larger Ford valves were used for better air flow. The rocker
arms were lightened and reshaped. It has a Delong cam and an internal spray
oiler. 50mm Solex side drafts.
The rods were a special heavy duty rod that were hand lightened. Everything
was balanced.
Lots of other little details went into the motor. It was great fun to drive
with the 3" side exhaust that has nothing more than an auger swirl for a
muffler. Three foot balls of flame explode out the exhaust when the
throttles are closed at 7200 rpm between shifts. Since I sat right next to
the explosion, the memory still makes me pucker and grin.

I guess I am starting to get excited about this just like my son.

All my best,
Nolan

-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Peters [mailto:ppeters914 at comcast.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 10:46 AM
To: 'Nolan'
Subject: 2350 stroker (was "Best bucket seats for a roadster?")

2350 stroker? R16 or U20 or....? Details? Pics?

Thanks.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Nolan
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 10:13 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Best bucket seats for a roadster?

[snip]

After 25 plus years of ownership it is time to get the roadster back on the
road. My son is 14. I wish you all could have seen the look on his face when
we took the car cover off and that bright red paint, black stripes and
"Power by Colvin" stood out to him.  Since he has realized what is there, he
totally lost interest in the other cars and wants to drive the Roadster.

I admit I am looking forward to the flames that shoot out the side exhaust
and the sound of the 2350 stroker motor wound tight. Technology has moved on
but this still sounds like fun.

From nolan at mortarsprayer.com  Tue Aug  7 13:26:43 2012
From: nolan at mortarsprayer.com (Nolan)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 12:26:43 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 2350 stroker (was "Best bucket seats for a
	roadster?")
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References: <00e301cd745b$4cb775b0$e6266110$@com>
	<010101cd74c4$7c5faf30$751f0d90$@net>
	<005e01cd74c8$f4427650$dcc762f0$@com>
	<010e01cd74c9$72191f70$564b5e50$@net>
Message-ID: <005f01cd74d2$951c0c90$bf5425b0$@com>

Hello Pete,
Yes it was my daily driver (when I was younger and full of energy). At the
time it didn't seem like an inconvenience to swap a 5 speed or change the
rear end ratio over a weekend to get ready for the next adventure. 

The main reason the car shoots flames is the high vacuum created as the
throttles shut. This sucks an extra gulp of raw fuel. The overlap of the cam
and the straight exhaust all play nicely together. The ball of flame is one
of the highlights. I always tried to have an opponent to my left in a drag
race. They often would back out at the 2-3 shift when they saw the flash
between us.

In a cheater motor that was built for a customer (and never raced:) ) the
bores of the R16 were offset to allow for a little larger piston. My
knowledge is over 25 years old (not current) but, if you are looking for
more power, I would suggest doing anything you can to start with a larger
displacement engine.

The 4.40 LS rear end gave amazing performance in town and tight twisty roads
but probably not much more than a hundred miles an hour on the highway in
5th gear wound tight.
The 3.89 rear end in the SPL311 was a nice compromise of acceleration and
top speed. With the 3.89 I could get to the 7200 rpm redline fairly quickly
in 5th. With the 3.7 we picked up top speed but it took too much road to get
there.
  
Take care,
Nolan

-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Peters [mailto:ppeters914 at comcast.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 11:21 AM
To: 'Nolan'
Subject: RE: 2350 stroker (was "Best bucket seats for a roadster?")

Exhaust flame balls? Ummmm, this a street car? 

Reason I ask is that I'm currently considering doing a R16 stroker. 

Pete

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Tue Aug  7 14:08:09 2012
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (dave n)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 15:08:09 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Air cond for a roadster
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References: <BAY150-W36FAEF08B05676FDAE7E13A9CE0@phx.gbl><50210ED7.9010404@hornesystemstx.com>
	<CALO7pZrp245kmfsmt13HY9-=J-yK=UCAp+oDxOiypMR5SsjPKQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <830924BBB7C54DD89C9A653DE3BA5DE1@ranteer.local>

you must live up north.  you have heat, right?

its 103 in Dallas today.  you need heat; we need a/c!

-----Original Message----- 
From: David Bentz
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 8:52 AM
To: pat at hornesystemstx.com
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Air cond for a roadster

call me weird, but a/c in a roadster...isn't that kind of like
enjoying shaved ice in alaska?

drop the top, step on the gas, and volia!



On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Pat Horne <pat at hornesystemstx.com> wrote:

> Living in Texas, I have also been thinking about A/C in my 67.5. Instead
> of putting an under-dash unit I was thinking about doing something similar
> to what I've seen on Bobcat loaders, which is that the A/C registers are
> behind and to the side of the operator, blowing cold air onto your arms 
> and
> legs. This really helps a lot, even when the loader doesn't have an
> enclosed cab.
>
> There is a lot of room under the package shelf on our cars, as long as you
> stay away from the drive shaft and axles, so I have been thinking about
> putting the condensers and evaporator there. As for the compressor, I
> haven't decided yet. I hear that some new small vehicles have
> electrically-driven compressors which, I'm sure, draw a lot of power, but
> with a larger alternator may make things easier to install. There are also
> small compressors used on sub-compacts that should be easier on the engine
> than the larger compressors. I will be going to a shop tomorrow and will
> see what they know about this.
>
> Peace,
> Pat
>
> Thusly spake robert williams, On 8/7/2012 2:20 AM:
>
>> I am looking to move to a very warm tropical climate where it is almost
>> above
>> 30c every day of the year and very humid.
>> Heading to the tropics of south east asia and thinking of taking the
>> fairlady
>> with me when it is finished the ground up resto (about 85%) complete now.
>>
>> Anyway this low screen 1600 sporty will not be to practical up there
>> without
>> some air cond.
>> Has anyone gone down the path of fitting AC to one of these with an under
>> dash
>> unit.
>>
>> I remember from the days when I was playing around with late 60's and
>> early
>> 70's model holdens (GM for you guys in the northern part of the world)
>> there
>> was a heap of large under dash A/C units.
>> Does anyone know if they have come down in size over the years?
>>
>> Did these cars ever have a snog pump installed in the USA on the 1600cc
>> engine?
>> If so maybe the mounting brackets for the SMOG pump could be modified to
>> carry
>> an A/C compressor.
>>
>> Any constructive thoughts and ideas would be appreciated.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Roberts
>> ______________________________**__________
>>
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>>
>>
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From tputland at charter.net  Wed Aug  8 05:22:39 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 07:22:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Air cond for a roadster
Message-ID: <12ffe550.1a5569.13905f8dedf.Webtop.44@charter.net>

We saw the same set up Paul.

I do know that his AC wasn't hooked up the two or three times times I 
saw him and as far as I know/remember, it never worked anyway. I may be 
mistaken on this latter part.

tim




On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Paul Kort wrote:

> Wasn't there a roadster posted to the list a while back that had the 
> A/C
> unit mounted in the trunk and fed air through the package shelf?
>
> Paul  -  Or am I just getting old(er)?
> Ohio
>
> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Pat Horne <pat at hornesystemstx.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> Living in Texas, I have also been thinking about A/C in my 67.5. 
>> Instead
>> of putting an under-dash unit I was thinking about doing something 
>> similar
>> to what I've seen on Bobcat loaders, which is that the A/C registers 
>> are
>> behind and to the side of the operator, blowing cold air onto your 
>> arms and
>> legs. This really helps a lot, even when the loader doesn't have an
>> enclosed cab.
>>
>> There is a lot of room under the package shelf on our cars, as long 
>> as you
>> stay away from the drive shaft and axles, so I have been thinking 
>> about
>> putting the condensers and evaporator there. As for the compressor, I
>> haven't decided yet. I hear that some new small vehicles have
>> electrically-driven compressors which, I'm sure, draw a lot of power, 
>> but
>> with a larger alternator may make things easier to install. There are 
>> also
>> small compressors used on sub-compacts that should be easier on the 
>> engine
>> than the larger compressors. I will be going to a shop tomorrow and 
>> will
>> see what they know about this.
>>
>> Peace,
>> Pat
>>
>> Thusly spake robert williams, On 8/7/2012 2:20 AM:
>>
>>> I am looking to move to a very warm tropical climate where it is 
>>> almost
>>> above
>>> 30c every day of the year and very humid.
>>> Heading to the tropics of south east asia and thinking of taking the
>>> fairlady
>>> with me when it is finished the ground up resto (about 85%) complete 
>>> now.
>>>
>>> Anyway this low screen 1600 sporty will not be to practical up there
>>> without
>>> some air cond.
>>> Has anyone gone down the path of fitting AC to one of these with an 
>>> under
>>> dash
>>> unit.
>>>
>>> I remember from the days when I was playing around with late 60's 
>>> and
>>> early
>>> 70's model holdens (GM for you guys in the northern part of the 
>>> world)
>>> there
>>> was a heap of large under dash A/C units.
>>> Does anyone know if they have come down in size over the years?
>>>
>>> Did these cars ever have a snog pump installed in the USA on the 
>>> 1600cc
>>> engine?
>>> If so maybe the mounting brackets for the SMOG pump could be 
>>> modified to
>>> carry
>>> an A/C compressor.
>>>
>>> Any constructive thoughts and ideas would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Roberts
>>> ______________________________**__________
>>>
>>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>>>
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From tputland at charter.net  Wed Aug  8 05:26:50 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 07:26:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] 2350 stroker (was "Best bucket seats for a
 roadster?")
Message-ID: <126ac62a.1a55e9.13905fcb28b.Webtop.44@charter.net>

You stroked a U20? What crank did you use?
tim


On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Nolan wrote:

> Hello Pete,
> Yes it was my daily driver (when I was younger and full of energy). At 
> the
> time it didn't seem like an inconvenience to swap a 5 speed or change 
> the
> rear end ratio over a weekend to get ready for the next adventure.
> The main reason the car shoots flames is the high vacuum created as 
> the
> throttles shut. This sucks an extra gulp of raw fuel. The overlap of 
> the cam
> and the straight exhaust all play nicely together. The ball of flame 
> is one
> of the highlights. I always tried to have an opponent to my left in a 
> drag
> race. They often would back out at the 2-3 shift when they saw the 
> flash
> between us.
>
> In a cheater motor that was built for a customer (and never raced:) ) 
> the
> bores of the R16 were offset to allow for a little larger piston. My
> knowledge is over 25 years old (not current) but, if you are looking 
> for
> more power, I would suggest doing anything you can to start with a 
> larger
> displacement engine.
>
> The 4.40 LS rear end gave amazing performance in town and tight twisty 
> roads
> but probably not much more than a hundred miles an hour on the highway 
> in
> 5th gear wound tight.
> The 3.89 rear end in the SPL311 was a nice compromise of acceleration 
> and
> top speed. With the 3.89 I could get to the 7200 rpm redline fairly 
> quickly
> in 5th. With the 3.7 we picked up top speed but it took too much road 
> to get
> there.
>   Take care,
> Nolan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pete Peters [mailto:ppeters914 at comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, 
> August 07, 2012 11:21 AM
> To: 'Nolan'
> Subject: RE: 2350 stroker (was "Best bucket seats for a roadster?")
>
> Exhaust flame balls? Ummmm, this a street car?
> Reason I ask is that I'm currently considering doing a R16 stroker.
> Pete
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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Wed Aug  8 07:24:04 2012
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 09:24:04 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] 2350 stroker (was "Best bucket seats for a
 roadster?")
Message-ID: <30baa.79285af8.3d53c274@aol.com>

At one time it was not uncommon to take a stock crank, weld up one side of  
the journal, regrind them offset and increase the stroke. I haven't heard 
of  anyone doing this in years. 
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 8/8/2012 4:34:24 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
tputland at charter.net writes:

You  stroked a U20? What crank did you use?
tim


On Tue, Aug 7, 2012  at 2:26 PM, Nolan wrote:

> Hello Pete,
> Yes it was my daily  driver (when I was younger and full of energy). At 
> the
> time  it didn't seem like an inconvenience to swap a 5 speed or change 
>  the
> rear end ratio over a weekend to get ready for the next  adventure.
> The main reason the car shoots flames is the high vacuum  created as 
> the
> throttles shut. This sucks an extra gulp of  raw fuel. The overlap of 
> the cam
> and the straight exhaust all  play nicely together. The ball of flame 
> is one
> of the  highlights. I always tried to have an opponent to my left in a 
>  drag
> race. They often would back out at the 2-3 shift when they saw  the 
> flash
> between us.
>
> In a cheater motor that  was built for a customer (and never raced:) ) 
> the
> bores of  the R16 were offset to allow for a little larger piston. My
> knowledge  is over 25 years old (not current) but, if you are looking 
>  for
> more power, I would suggest doing anything you can to start with a  
> larger
> displacement engine.
>
> The 4.40 LS rear  end gave amazing performance in town and tight twisty 
> roads
>  but probably not much more than a hundred miles an hour on the highway  
> in
> 5th gear wound tight.
> The 3.89 rear end in the  SPL311 was a nice compromise of acceleration 
> and
> top speed.  With the 3.89 I could get to the 7200 rpm redline fairly 
>  quickly
> in 5th. With the 3.7 we picked up top speed but it took too  much road 
> to get
> there.
>   Take  care,
> Nolan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  Pete Peters [mailto:ppeters914 at comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, 
> August 07,  2012 11:21 AM
> To: 'Nolan'
> Subject: RE: 2350 stroker (was "Best  bucket seats for a roadster?")
>
> Exhaust flame balls? Ummmm,  this a street car?
> Reason I ask is that I'm currently considering  doing a R16 stroker.
> Pete
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From nolan at mortarsprayer.com  Wed Aug  8 09:50:21 2012
From: nolan at mortarsprayer.com (Nolan)
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 08:50:21 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 2350 stroker (was "Best bucket seats for a
 roadster?")
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References: <30baa.79285af8.3d53c274@aol.com>
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Good morning Keith and Tim.

Yes it is kind of funny that a few decades of technology have passed.  I
feel like an old timer talking about back in the day..    J

Now it is probably easier to design what you want in AutoCad and send out
the drawing to a crank manufacturer.

 

I know that Vern built several stroker cranks for roadsters. It was a long
process but the only reasonable way to get more stroke out of a U20.  In the
L series there were easier choices like fitting a NapZ 2.4 crank into a 2
liter block.

 

After the dimensions were set, the cranks would be cleaned then welded. The
welding was a slow and carful process that minimized warping. Then there
were many steps of measuring, cross drilling the oil holes, grinding,
polishing, shot peening and hardening with a nitriding process. I'm sure I
have forgotten steps. It was a long project.

 

As I look back, I am very thankful to have had a little time as the shop boy
in Vern's shop.  I can still remember watching him machining parts on the
lathe that he built himself. One cool feature of the lathe was that it had a
syncro 4 speed transmission.  I can close my eyes and see the grin on his as
he was power-shifting the lathe. 

 

All my best,

Nolan

 

From: Keith0alan at aol.com [mailto:Keith0alan at aol.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 6:24 AM
To: tputland at charter.net; nolan at mortarsprayer.com
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 2350 stroker (was "Best bucket seats for a
roadster?")

 

At one time it was not uncommon to take a stock crank, weld up one side of
the journal, regrind them offset and increase the stroke. I haven't heard of
anyone doing this in years. 

 

keith

 

In a message dated 8/8/2012 4:34:24 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
tputland at charter.net writes:

You stroked a U20? What crank did you use?
tim

From datrock at centurytel.net  Wed Aug  8 11:40:13 2012
From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole)
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2012 10:40:13 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 2350 stroker (was "Best bucket seats for a
 roadster?")
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	<004001cd757d$859aaa00$90cffe00$@com>
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Hi Nolan, I live a couple blocks from Vern's brother Bill, he lives in 
Lebanon, Or. Yes I have seen Vern's home made Lathe and the u20 stroker 
crank work he had done, there was an unfinished u20 crank with the welds 
on the rod journals in the scrap pile. His lathe was made out of a 
Nissan engine block and was still there when I was at Bill's a couple 
years ago... Bill

From nolan at mortarsprayer.com  Wed Aug  8 11:46:32 2012
From: nolan at mortarsprayer.com (Nolan)
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 10:46:32 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 2350 stroker (was "Best bucket seats for a
 roadster?")
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	<004001cd757d$859aaa00$90cffe00$@com>
	<50229D57.6040008@centurytel.net>
Message-ID: <007601cd758d$c02b15a0$408140e0$@com>

Hello Bill,
That is neat that Bill still has the lathe. Hopefully someday Todd will get
to use it.
 
I heard that Vern's dyno that is in the picture on the hot rod Datsun book
went to Portland.
Dyno days were such fun times. All the work leading up to that moment when
we would see if the ideas really worked.

It is sad to hear about a crank with so much work being tossed aside. Time
does move on. I wonder if the oiling improvements had been finished. It
could be a treasure for someone but only a very few.
There was another customer here in Eugene working on roadster with a touch
more stroke than mine. Perhaps you remember who?

Best regards,
Nolan



-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Cole [mailto:datrock at centurytel.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 10:10 AM
To: Nolan
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 2350 stroker (was "Best bucket seats for a
roadster?")

Hi Nolan, I live a couple blocks from Vern's brother Bill, he lives in
Lebanon, Or. Yes I have seen Vern's home made Lathe and the u20 stroker
crank work he had done, there was an unfinished u20 crank with the welds on
the rod journals in the scrap pile. His lathe was made out of a Nissan
engine block and was still there when I was at Bill's a couple years ago...
Bill

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Wed Aug  8 16:49:38 2012
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 18:49:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] 2350 stroker (was "Best bucket seats for a
 roadster?")
Message-ID: <15b93.7a4ddd47.3d544702@aol.com>

One of the biggest changes with most everything is that technology used to  
be very expensive and labor very cheap. Now technology is very cheap and 
labor  very expensive. Welding cranks used to be very common. Now the labor 
involved  exceeds the cost of a new crank. The whole CNC thing has made one 
off parts much  more reasonable. I find the whole "billet" parts thing 
amusing. For a lot of  things a cast or forged part is a better choice. However, 
throwing a block of  metal on the CNC machine, pushing the button, and going 
home for the night is  much cheaper that all the labor involved in a casting 
or forging. 
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 8/8/2012 9:01:07 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
nolan at mortarsprayer.com writes:

Good  morning Keith and Tim.

Yes it is kind of funny that a few decades of  technology have passed.  I
feel like an old timer talking about back  in the day..    J

Now it is probably easier to design what  you want in AutoCad and send out
the drawing to a crank  manufacturer.



I know that Vern built several stroker cranks for  roadsters. It was a long
process but the only reasonable way to get more  stroke out of a U20.  In 
the
L series there were easier choices like  fitting a NapZ 2.4 crank into a 2
liter block.



After the  dimensions were set, the cranks would be cleaned then welded. The
welding  was a slow and carful process that minimized warping. Then there
were many  steps of measuring, cross drilling the oil holes, grinding,
polishing, shot  peening and hardening with a nitriding process. I'm sure I
have forgotten  steps. It was a long project.



As I look back, I am very  thankful to have had a little time as the shop 
boy
in Vern's shop.  I  can still remember watching him machining parts on the
lathe that he built  himself. One cool feature of the lathe was that it had 
a
syncro 4 speed  transmission.  I can close my eyes and see the grin on his 
as
he was  power-shifting the lathe. 



All my  best,

Nolan



From: Keith0alan at aol.com  [mailto:Keith0alan at aol.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 6:24  AM
To: tputland at charter.net; nolan at mortarsprayer.com
Cc:  datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 2350 stroker (was  "Best bucket seats for a
roadster?")



At one time it was not  uncommon to take a stock crank, weld up one side of
the journal, regrind  them offset and increase the stroke. I haven't heard 
of
anyone doing this  in years. 



keith



In a message dated 8/8/2012  4:34:24 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
tputland at charter.net writes:

You  stroked a U20? What crank did you  use?
tim
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From alvingogi at gmail.com  Wed Aug  8 22:23:04 2012
From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 21:23:04 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Monterey Historics in 2 weeks!
Message-ID: <CALmuZ6BJAchE7k7Es+=-N8bSH=iBY8Y-UeyEZ1QND-o37qf=Hw@mail.gmail.com>

Get your tickets and Datsun corral passes asap!
http://www.zcarblog.com/2012/08/08/events/monterey-historic-tickets-817-to-819.html

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Thu Aug  9 06:42:05 2012
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 08:42:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Monterey Historics in 2 weeks!
Message-ID: <327bb.5963d781.3d550a1d@aol.com>

I have my event tickets already. Unless somebody runs into it like they did 
 just before Shasta I'll be bringing the panzerwagon (Mercedes). I'll look 
for  the Datsun corral. Should I bring my carb tuning tools?
 
keith williams
 
 
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alvingogi at gmail.com writes:

Get your  tickets and Datsun corral passes  asap!
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From dscrib2 at hotmail.com  Thu Aug  9 10:02:52 2012
From: dscrib2 at hotmail.com (Dana Scribner)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 12:02:52 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] gas sendor
Message-ID: <SNT141-W53C78A6A48DBD2D7A5CEF1F0CC0@phx.gbl>

is the sending unit in the gas tank the same on early & late models? Dana S
1969 2000

From aultgc at att.net  Thu Aug  9 11:54:38 2012
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 10:54:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] gas sendor
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Dana,

No.  '65 to '67 are different from '67-1/2 to '70.  The mounting is
different.  
Rallye's website has pictures of both.  Dean's website shows the
later unit, but 
I did not see the early version.

That said, my '67-1/2 has a
'65 to '67 sending unit, probably because  a '65 to 
'67 gas tank was used
when the car was restored by the PO.

Gary
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Sent: Thu, August 9, 2012 11:08:45 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] gas sendor

is the sending unit in the gas tank the same
on early & late models? Dana S
1969 2000
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu Aug  9 12:14:13 2012
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 11:14:13 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] gas sendor
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Online Parts Catalog shows two senders:
http://www.carpartsmanual.com/datsun311/Datsun311Index/EngineFitting/FuelTan
k/tabid/394/Default.aspx

10	GAUGE-FUEL TANK (SENDER)
 	25060-14600	ALL (EXC EVAPO)	  	 -	6702	1
11	GAUGE-FUEL TANK (SENDER)
 	25060-14601	ALL (EXC EVAPO)	6703	 -	  	1

4	GAUGE-FUEL TANK (SENDER)
 	25060-14601	EVAPO	  	 -	  	1

What's confusing is that it shows the same part number for all evap and
after March 1967 non-evap tanks. Personally, I can't see why you'd need a
different sender. Aren't the fuel tanks physically the same size and shape
for all years?


Pete

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To: Datsun Dave; datsun roadsters
Subject: [Roadsters] gas sendor

is the sending unit in the gas tank the same on early & late models? Dana S
1969 2000
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Thu Aug  9 13:37:43 2012
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 19:37:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] gas sendor
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The tanks are basically the same, but IIRC, the earlier ones use a lock ring
to hold the sending unit in place but the later ones are bolted in.


Gordon Glasgow
Renton, WA
www.gordon-glasgow.org

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From: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2012 11:14:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] gas sendor

Online Parts Catalog shows two senders:
http://www.carpartsmanual.com/datsun311/Datsun311Index/EngineFitting/FuelTan
k/tabid/394/Default.aspx

10B B B B B B B B GAUGE-FUEL TANK (SENDER)
B B B B B B B B B 25060-14600B B B B B B B B ALL (EXC EVAPO)B B B B B B B B 
B B B B B B B B B  -B B B B B B B B 6702B B B B B B B B 1
11B B B B B B B B GAUGE-FUEL TANK (SENDER)
B B B B B B B B B 25060-14601B B B B B B B B ALL (EXC
EVAPO)B B B B B B B B 6703B B B B B B B B  -B B B B B B B B 
B B B B B B B B B 1

4B B B B B B B B GAUGE-FUEL TANK (SENDER)
B B B B B B B B B 25060-14601B B B B B B B B EVAPOB B B B B B B B 
B B B B B B B B B  -B B B B B B B B  B B B B B B B B B 1

What's confusing is that it shows the same part number for all evap and
after March 1967 non-evap tanks. Personally, I can't see why you'd need a
different sender. Aren't the fuel tanks physically the same size and shape
for all years?


Pete

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Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 9:03 AM
To: Datsun Dave; datsun roadsters
Subject: [Roadsters] gas sendor

is the sending unit in the gas tank the same on early & late models? Dana S
1969 2000
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From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Thu Aug  9 19:20:38 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 21:20:38 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 1500s?
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEvJCWr8qPeMAXdU+YK6=xrr6P1v2cW0j6sUiH_tV2OLUg@mail.gmail.com>

  So what are 1964 1500s worth today?  I have a lead on a running,
drivable, 3 seater with a 1600 R16 engine.  Comes with a 1500 basket case
engine, two R16 engines, and a few 4 speed transmission, as well as some
extra parts and sheet metal.  But with so few around, i have no idea what
it is worth.  I did find one on ebay that sold just this week for $4000+

Paul
Ohio

From davidbentz at gmail.com  Mon Aug 13 08:02:09 2012
From: davidbentz at gmail.com (David Bentz)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:02:09 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
Message-ID: <CALO7pZohKtvLV+bPkuj=ReE_WTeqLRi2_YY6jeYsOCBfY8NyBw@mail.gmail.com>

Good morning Group.
It looks like I'm going to be the proud over of a 67.5 1600. So I'd like to
do an oil change when i receive it at as well as fuel filter, etc. Just
general tune up stuff. For the last 10-12 years I've been playing w/BMW's,
my 72 2002 and 89 325ix, which I've gotten pretty use to going to the
dealership and getting a decent price on stuff like this. Especially
w/being part of the BMW cca and getting a discount.

So my first question is what are good oil filters that are available for
use on roadsters? I'm use to using either Mann or Mahele filters. I'm ok
with paying more, as long as it's for a better part. Where is the best
place to get filters at?

Also does Nissan have a car club/loyalty program that you can join to get
discounted parts from the dealer?

Thank you all for your help.
David

From chalsted at comcast.net  Mon Aug 13 08:24:23 2012
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:24:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] 5spd into a 1500?
Message-ID: <473924611.331147.1344867863225.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

although I know technically it's not a problem, wondered people's thoughts on putting a 5spd or a 1600 4spd box into a 1500...in the long run, probably will end up selling the car if that makes any difference. I think Sid told me once there was a shifter for something that would bring it up through the original hole in the tunnel if using a 5spd... 
Craig 

From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 13 08:30:14 2012
From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 07:30:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
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David, I am assuming your '67 has a spin-on oil filter.  My '66 has a
canister, but it is an early SN.  WIX is probably the best filter out there
based on all independent tests I have ever seen.  The NAPA GOLD filter is a
premium WIX filter re-numbered for NAPA.  That is all I use on all my rides
(Except sometimes using a MANN on by 2 MBs). 


Mike Harper, CAI, AARE
Harper Auction & Realty
843-729-4996
"Experience Sells"

www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET
 
 

--- On Mon, 8/13/12, David Bentz <davidbentz at gmail.com> wrote:


From: David Bentz <davidbentz at gmail.com>
Subject: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Date: Monday, August 13, 2012, 10:02 AM


Good morning Group.
It looks like I'm going to be the proud over of a 67.5 1600. So I'd like to
do an oil change when i receive it at as well as fuel filter, etc. Just
general tune up stuff. For the last 10-12 years I've been playing w/BMW's,
my 72 2002 and 89 325ix, which I've gotten pretty use to going to the
dealership and getting a decent price on stuff like this. Especially
w/being part of the BMW cca and getting a discount.

So my first question is what are good oil filters that are available for
use on roadsters? I'm use to using either Mann or Mahele filters. I'm ok
with paying more, as long as it's for a better part. Where is the best
place to get filters at?

Also does Nissan have a car club/loyalty program that you can join to get
discounted parts from the dealer?

Thank you all for your help.
David
________________________________________

From aultgc at att.net  Mon Aug 13 23:15:55 2012
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 22:15:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
In-Reply-To: <1344868214.27826.YahooMailClassic@web124905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1344868214.27826.YahooMailClassic@web124905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1344921355.5768.YahooMailRC@web180208.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Mike,

Sorry to be ignorant, but Part Numbers would be helpful.  I can't tell
you how 
many filters I have looked at recently which supposedly fit
roadsters, but which 
have some sort of non-return valve in the center which
won't fit over the center 
tube in our spin-on mountings.

For years I used
Fram PH-2825s, but those no longer work.

Gary
________________________________
From: Mike Harper
<roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; David Bentz
<davidbentz at gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, August 13, 2012 9:30:24 AM
Subject: Re:
[Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters

David, I am assuming your '67 has a
spin-on oil filter.  My '66 has a
canister, but it is an early SN.  WIX is
probably the best filter out there
based on all independent tests I have ever
seen.  The NAPA GOLD filter is a
premium WIX filter re-numbered for NAPA. 
That is all I use on all my rides
(Except sometimes using a MANN on by 2 MBs).
Mike Harper, CAI, AARE
Harper Auction & Realty
843-729-4996
"Experience Sells"
www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET



--- On Mon, 8/13/12, David Bentz
<davidbentz at gmail.com> wrote:


From: David Bentz <davidbentz at gmail.com>
Subject: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
To:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Date: Monday, August 13, 2012, 10:02 AM


Good
morning Group.
It looks like I'm going to be the proud over of a 67.5 1600. So
I'd like to
do an oil change when i receive it at as well as fuel filter, etc.
Just
general tune up stuff. For the last 10-12 years I've been playing
w/BMW's,
my 72 2002 and 89 325ix, which I've gotten pretty use to going to the
dealership and getting a decent price on stuff like this. Especially
w/being
part of the BMW cca and getting a discount.

So my first question is what are
good oil filters that are available for
use on roadsters? I'm use to using
either Mann or Mahele filters. I'm ok
with paying more, as long as it's for a
better part. Where is the best
place to get filters at?

Also does Nissan have
a car club/loyalty program that you can join to get
discounted parts from the
dealer?

Thank you all for your help.
David
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From aultgc at att.net  Mon Aug 13 23:18:46 2012
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 22:18:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] 5spd into a 1500?
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Craig,

The shifter on 5-speeds is further forward than that on 4-speeds.  To
put a 
5-speed into a 1500, I think you will have to cut the tunnel.  Later
cars -- at 
least some -- had tunnel openings which would accommodate either
4- or 
5-speeds.  When I put the U20 into my '66 1600, I kept the four-speed
because I 
didn't want to cobb up the interior or have a new trim plate
custom-made.

Gary



________________________________
From:
"chalsted at comcast.net" <chalsted at comcast.net>
To:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, August 13, 2012 9:26:45 AM
Subject:
[Roadsters] 5spd into a 1500?

although I know technically it's not a problem,
wondered people's thoughts on 
putting a 5spd or a 1600 4spd box into a
1500...in the long run, probably will 
end up selling the car if that makes
any difference. I think Sid told me once 
there was a shifter for something
that would bring it up through the original 
hole in the tunnel if using a
5spd... 

Craig 
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From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Tue Aug 14 06:41:12 2012
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 07:41:12 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
In-Reply-To: <1344921355.5768.YahooMailRC@web180208.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1344868214.27826.YahooMailClassic@web124905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<1344921355.5768.YahooMailRC@web180208.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAMHhs6e6kcrsxxkcJSNXkRbGBiNs+e=Xn-8v+LuzFykFv6hHJQ@mail.gmail.com>

I'm pretty sure that there's a list of filters with part number in the Wiki
section of 311s.org. I don't think you can go wrong with Wix.

FWIW,
Ron

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Gary and Cindy Ault <aultgc at att.net>wrote:

> Mike,
>
> Sorry to be ignorant, but Part Numbers would be helpful.  I can't tell
> you how
> many filters I have looked at recently which supposedly fit
> roadsters, but which
> have some sort of non-return valve in the center which
> won't fit over the center
> tube in our spin-on mountings.
>
> For years I used
> Fram PH-2825s, but those no longer work.
>
> Gary
> ________________________________
> From: Mike Harper
> <roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com>
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; David Bentz
> <davidbentz at gmail.com>
> Sent: Mon, August 13, 2012 9:30:24 AM
> Subject: Re:
> [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
>
> David, I am assuming your '67 has a
> spin-on oil filter.  My '66 has a
> canister, but it is an early SN.  WIX is
> probably the best filter out there
> based on all independent tests I have ever
> seen.  The NAPA GOLD filter is a
> premium WIX filter re-numbered for NAPA.
> That is all I use on all my rides
> (Except sometimes using a MANN on by 2 MBs).
> Mike Harper, CAI, AARE
> Harper Auction & Realty
> 843-729-4996
> "Experience Sells"
> www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET
>
>
>
> --- On Mon, 8/13/12, David Bentz
> <davidbentz at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: David Bentz <davidbentz at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
> To:
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Monday, August 13, 2012, 10:02 AM
>
>
> Good
> morning Group.
> It looks like I'm going to be the proud over of a 67.5 1600. So
> I'd like to
> do an oil change when i receive it at as well as fuel filter, etc.
> Just
> general tune up stuff. For the last 10-12 years I've been playing
> w/BMW's,
> my 72 2002 and 89 325ix, which I've gotten pretty use to going to the
> dealership and getting a decent price on stuff like this. Especially
> w/being
> part of the BMW cca and getting a discount.
>
> So my first question is what are
> good oil filters that are available for
> use on roadsters? I'm use to using
> either Mann or Mahele filters. I'm ok
> with paying more, as long as it's for a
> better part. Where is the best
> place to get filters at?
>
> Also does Nissan have
> a car club/loyalty program that you can join to get
> discounted parts from the
> dealer?
>
> Thank you all for your help.
> David
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From tom at datsun2000.com  Tue Aug 14 09:52:30 2012
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 08:52:30 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
Message-ID: <502A743E.6060607@datsun2000.com>

I took a look at my Nissan Parts section of my Tech page and found the 
WIX filter listed in their catalog is wrong.  the threads are 
incorrect.  I use a WIX 51512 filter, which has the anti-drainback valve 
and the correct threads, when I change filters in Mr. Hyde.

http://www.datsun2000.com/tech/nissan_part_numbers.htm

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Las Vegas
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

On 8/14/2012 5:41:12 AM, Ronnie Day (ronnie.day at gmail.com) wrote:
 > I'm pretty sure that there's a list of filters with part number in 
the Wiki
 > section of 311s.org. I don't think you can go wrong with Wix.
 >
 > FWIW,
 > Ron
 >
 > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Gary and Cindy Ault 
<aultgc at att.net>wrote:
 >
 > > Mike,
 > >
 > > Sorry to be ignorant, but Part Numbers would be helpful. I can't tell
 > > you how
 > > many filters I have looked at recently which supposedly fit
 > > roadsters, but which
 > > have some sort of non-return valve in the center which
 > > won't fit over the center
 > > tube in our spin-on mountings.
 > >
 > > For years I used
 > > Fram PH-2825s, but those no longer work.
 > >
 > > Gary
 > > ________________________________
 > > From: Mike Harper
 > > <roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com>
 > > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; David Bentz
 > > <davidbentz at gmail.com>
 > > Sent: Mon, August 13, 2012 9:30:24 AM
 > > Subject: Re:
 > > [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
 > >
 > > David, I am assuming your '67 has a
 > > spin-on oil filter. My '66 has a
 > > canister, but it is an early SN. WIX is
 > > probably the best filter out there
 > > based on all independent tests I have ever
 > > seen. The NAPA GOLD filter is a
 > > premium WIX filter re-numbered for NAPA.
 > > That is all I use on all my rides
 > > (Except sometimes using a MANN on by 2 MBs).
 > > Mike Harper, CAI, AARE
 > > Harper Auction & Realty
 > > 843-729-4996
 > > "Experience Sells"
 > > www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > --- On Mon, 8/13/12, David Bentz
 > > <davidbentz at gmail.com> wrote:
 > >
 > >
 > > From: David Bentz <davidbentz at gmail.com>
 > > Subject: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
 > > To:
 > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
 > > Date: Monday, August 13, 2012, 10:02 AM
 > >
 > >
 > > Good
 > > morning

From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Tue Aug 14 10:18:44 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:18:44 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
In-Reply-To: <502A743E.6060607@datsun2000.com>
References: <502A743E.6060607@datsun2000.com>
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEvuyjN64zVU0eDNn52YZPO76MjCCuDWOwmLWO_cGryXTg@mail.gmail.com>

  Okay, what's a WIX and who sells them.  I know I've led a sheltered life
here in Ohio (with a brief stint in Virginia with Uncle Sam), but who sells
WIX filters?  And has anybody tried one of the new Extra Gursd Frame
filters?

Paul

From fred.davidson at diversia.ca  Tue Aug 14 10:27:11 2012
From: fred.davidson at diversia.ca (Fred Davidson)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:27:11 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Filters
Message-ID: <000001cd7a39$a853c840$f8fb58c0$@diversia.ca>

Hi:

 

I use NAPA GOLD which is  a WIXfilter.  The NAPA # in Canada is 1512.

 

Fred

 

69 2000

From tputland at charter.net  Tue Aug 14 10:39:25 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:39:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Filters
Message-ID: <4a09b971.287df8.13926010890.Webtop.43@charter.net>

X2 here. (I use the Napa gold on all our vehicles.) I am also pretty 
sure the 1512 is the same in the US. The Napa gold, series for lack of a 
better name, is just a rebranded WIX.
tim


On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Fred Davidson wrote:

> Hi:
>
>
> I use NAPA GOLD which is  a WIXfilter.  The NAPA # in Canada is 1512.
>
>
> Fred
>
>
> 69 2000
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From mantolik at oh.rr.com  Tue Aug 14 11:07:32 2012
From: mantolik at oh.rr.com (Mark)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:07:32 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
In-Reply-To: <CAFEMhEvuyjN64zVU0eDNn52YZPO76MjCCuDWOwmLWO_cGryXTg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <502A743E.6060607@datsun2000.com>
	<CAFEMhEvuyjN64zVU0eDNn52YZPO76MjCCuDWOwmLWO_cGryXTg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <502A85D4.4070704@oh.rr.com>

Paul - got a local O'Reilly's down there?  The one up here sells Wix 
filters...

Mark
-Ohio
On 08/14/2012 12:18 PM, Paul Kort wrote:
>    Okay, what's a WIX and who sells them.  I know I've led a sheltered life
> here in Ohio (with a brief stint in Virginia with Uncle Sam), but who sells
> WIX filters?  And has anybody tried one of the new Extra Gursd Frame
> filters?
>
> Paul
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From tputland at charter.net  Tue Aug 14 11:17:51 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:17:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
Message-ID: <65c3a0c7.28862e.13926243907.Webtop.43@charter.net>

Paul is lucky he has running water and electricity out in the sticks 
where he lives! HAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

Sorry Paul, couldn't resist!


On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Mark wrote:

> Paul - got a local O'Reilly's down there?  The one up here sells Wix 
> filters...
>
> Mark
> -Ohio
> On 08/14/2012 12:18 PM, Paul Kort wrote:
>>    Okay, what's a WIX and who sells them.  I know I've led a 
>> sheltered life
>> here in Ohio (with a brief stint in Virginia with Uncle Sam), but who 
>> sells
>> WIX filters?  And has anybody tried one of the new Extra Gursd Frame
>> filters?
>>
>> Paul
>> ________________________________________
>>
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>>
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From chalsted at comcast.net  Tue Aug 14 11:44:20 2012
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 17:44:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] 69 2000 for sale
Message-ID: <1841476491.374554.1344966260013.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

I located this car for the current owner a few years back, it's very, very nice and has had a lot of new parts put into/onto it. he's decided to part with it and called me to see if I knew anyone looking... I can put you in touch with the owner, he's into it for about $14k and is looking to get as close to that as he can 
Craig . 

From gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com  Tue Aug 14 14:30:44 2012
From: gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com (Gordon Maness)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:30:44 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
In-Reply-To: <65c3a0c7.28862e.13926243907.Webtop.43@charter.net>
References: <65c3a0c7.28862e.13926243907.Webtop.43@charter.net>
Message-ID: <SNT137-W257CE0169789945A5D8D2BB2B70@phx.gbl>

I use what is available.I've use the Dodge filter and Ford too.Just change the
filter and oil every 3k miles. g with a fleet.
 > Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:17:51 -0400
> From: tputland at charter.net
> To: mantolik at oh.rr.com
> CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
>
> Paul is lucky he has running water and electricity out in the sticks
> where he lives! HAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
>
> Sorry Paul, couldn't resist!
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Mark wrote:
>
> > Paul - got a local O'Reilly's down there?  The one up here sells Wix
> > filters...
> >
> > Mark
> > -Ohio
> > On 08/14/2012 12:18 PM, Paul Kort wrote:
> >>    Okay, what's a WIX and who sells them.  I know I've led a
> >> sheltered life
> >> here in Ohio (with a brief stint in Virginia with Uncle Sam), but who
> >> sells
> >> WIX filters?  And has anybody tried one of the new Extra Gursd Frame
> >> filters?
> >>
> >> Paul
> >> ________________________________________
> >>
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Tue Aug 14 15:10:18 2012
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:10:18 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
In-Reply-To: <CAFEMhEvuyjN64zVU0eDNn52YZPO76MjCCuDWOwmLWO_cGryXTg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <502A743E.6060607@datsun2000.com>
	<CAFEMhEvuyjN64zVU0eDNn52YZPO76MjCCuDWOwmLWO_cGryXTg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DBD81E6E-0381-4F6B-B7C4-691F71930130@netscape.net>

I'd never use A Fram. 311 has threads and links to oil filter comparison tests
Wix is too rated. Check their site for more info.

Linda

Sent from my iPod

On Aug 14, 2012, at 9:18 AM, Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Okay, what's a WIX and who sells them.  I know I've led a sheltered life
> here in Ohio (with a brief stint in Virginia with Uncle Sam), but who sells
> WIX filters?  And has anybody tried one of the new Extra Gursd Frame
> filters?
>
> Paul
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From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 14 15:13:52 2012
From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:13:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
In-Reply-To: <SNT137-W257CE0169789945A5D8D2BB2B70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1344978832.70845.YahooMailClassic@web124905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I HAVE heard some horror stories about FRAM filters. Catastrophic Failures.  
I WILL NOT use Fram.


Mike Harper, CAI, AARE
Harper Auction & Realty
843-729-4996
"Experience Sells"

www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET
 
 

--- On Tue, 8/14/12, Gordon Maness <gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Gordon Maness <gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
To:
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Date: Tuesday, August 14, 2012, 4:30 PM


I use what is available.I've use the Dodge filter and Ford too.Just change
the
filter and oil every 3k miles. g with a fleet.
> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:17:51 -0400
> From: tputland at charter.net

From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Tue Aug 14 15:16:59 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 17:16:59 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
In-Reply-To: <SNT137-W257CE0169789945A5D8D2BB2B70@phx.gbl>
References: <65c3a0c7.28862e.13926243907.Webtop.43@charter.net>
	<SNT137-W257CE0169789945A5D8D2BB2B70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEvFkNPi1rXbK+kooczrrnGk8EJQAyYMHdo=QhvbXu1imw@mail.gmail.com>

  Hey, we got water out here!  Come out of a well.  Thanks Tim!  Next
visit, you can sleep in the shed.

  We have a NAPA and Auto Zone in town.  Have to drive out of the county to
find any thing else.  And if you don't speak GM trucks or tractors, you are
not welcomed at NAPA!  Maybe I can sneak in and find the right oil filter?

Paul
Lost in Ohio

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Gordon Maness
<gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com>wrote:

> I use what is available.I've use the Dodge filter and Ford too.Just change
> the
> filter and oil every 3k miles. g with a fleet.
>  > Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:17:51 -0400
> > From: tputland at charter.net
> > To: mantolik at oh.rr.com
> > CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
> >
> > Paul is lucky he has running water and electricity out in the sticks
> > where he lives! HAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
> >
> > Sorry Paul, couldn't resist!
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Mark wrote:
> >
> > > Paul - got a local O'Reilly's down there?  The one up here sells Wix
> > > filters...
> > >
> > > Mark
> > > -Ohio
> > > On 08/14/2012 12:18 PM, Paul Kort wrote:
> > >>    Okay, what's a WIX and who sells them.  I know I've led a
> > >> sheltered life
> > >> here in Ohio (with a brief stint in Virginia with Uncle Sam), but who
> > >> sells
> > >> WIX filters?  And has anybody tried one of the new Extra Gursd Frame
> > >> filters?
> > >>
> > >> Paul
> > >> ________________________________________
> > >>
> > >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> > >>
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From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Tue Aug 14 15:38:27 2012
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:38:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
In-Reply-To: <1344978832.70845.YahooMailClassic@web124905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1344980307.66876.YahooMailClassic@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have heard /about/ those FRAM horror stories, but never had any problems
myself. Put 250k on my PL521 Pickup, never used anything but FRAM filters --
never had a problem.

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA
SRL311-13921


--- On Tue, 8/14/12, Mike Harper <roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Mike Harper <roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
To: "Gordon Maness" <gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com>
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Date: Tuesday, August 14, 2012, 2:13 PM

I HAVE heard some horror stories about FRAM filters. Catastrophic Failures. 
I WILL NOT use Fram.


Mike Harper, CAI, AARE
Harper Auction & Realty
843-729-4996
"Experience Sells"

www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET



--- On Tue, 8/14/12, Gordon Maness <gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Gordon Maness <gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
To:
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Date: Tuesday, August 14, 2012, 4:30 PM


I use what is available.I've use the Dodge filter and Ford too.Just change
the
filter and oil every 3k miles. g with a fleet.
> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:17:51 -0400
> From: tputland at charter.net
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Tue Aug 14 15:40:27 2012
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 21:40:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
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If you go in with the part number, they should be able to figure it out.



Or you can order it from Amazon (seriously).


Gordon Glasgow
Renton, WA
www.gordon-glasgow.org

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Kort" <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
To: "Gordon Maness" <gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com>
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 2:16:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters

B B Hey, we got water out here! B Come out of a well. B Thanks Tim! B Next
visit, you can sleep in the shed.

B B We have a NAPA and Auto Zone in town. B Have to drive out of the county to
find any thing else. B And if you don't speak GM trucks or tractors, you are
not welcomed at NAPA! B Maybe I can sneak in and find the right oil filter?

Paul
Lost in Ohio

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Gordon Maness
<gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com>wrote:

> I use what is available.I've use the Dodge filter and Ford too.Just change
> the
> filter and oil every 3k miles. g with a fleet.
> B > Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:17:51 -0400
> > From: tputland at charter.net
> > To: mantolik at oh.rr.com
> > CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
> >
> > Paul is lucky he has running water and electricity out in the sticks
> > where he lives! HAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
> >
> > Sorry Paul, couldn't resist!
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Mark wrote:
> >
> > > Paul - got a local O'Reilly's down there? B The one up here sells Wix
> > > filters...
> > >
> > > Mark
> > > -Ohio
> > > On 08/14/2012 12:18 PM, Paul Kort wrote:
> > >> B  B Okay, what's a WIX and who sells them. B I know I've led a
> > >> sheltered life
> > >> here in Ohio (with a brief stint in Virginia with Uncle Sam), but who
> > >> sells
> > >> WIX filters? B And has anybody tried one of the new Extra Gursd Frame
> > >> filters?
> > >>
> > >> Paul
> > >> ________________________________________
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From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Tue Aug 14 15:44:26 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 17:44:26 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
In-Reply-To: <1344980307.66876.YahooMailClassic@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1344978832.70845.YahooMailClassic@web124905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<1344980307.66876.YahooMailClassic@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEuy5mpMM9DpJ5xWZ95KLW=X+4DJOJ+vbH9k2e6to-maPQ@mail.gmail.com>

  At Sloan Racing, we run R16s on Frame HP1 filters for at least the last
15 years.  I did read some testing that talked about failure of anti-siphon
valves in Frams.  The new Extra Guard is supposed to address that problem
with a new design.  Next oil change, one goes on my KA24E in my roadster.

Paul

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Gary McCormick <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I have heard /about/ those FRAM horror stories, but never had any problems
> myself. Put 250k on my PL521 Pickup, never used anything but FRAM filters
> --
> never had a problem.
>
> Gary McCormick
> San Jose, CA
> SRL311-13921

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Aug 14 16:11:35 2012
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:11:35 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
In-Reply-To: <CAFEMhEuy5mpMM9DpJ5xWZ95KLW=X+4DJOJ+vbH9k2e6to-maPQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1344978832.70845.YahooMailClassic@web124905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<1344980307.66876.YahooMailClassic@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<CAFEMhEuy5mpMM9DpJ5xWZ95KLW=X+4DJOJ+vbH9k2e6to-maPQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <007c01cd7a69$c8c6f810$5a54e830$@net>

>From 2007:
----------------------------------------
I Googled on "oil filter comparison" (without the quotes) and came up with a
number of hits. The two biggies that most of us have seen at one time or
another are:

Article from Ford SHO folks (last updated July 2002):

<http://www.shoclub.com/lubrication-oil/lubrication-oilpart1.htm>

Original Oil Filter Study (last updated Nov 2003):

<http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html>
----------------------------------------

FWIW, I used FRAM for decades without issue, but always changed the oil
every 3k-5k miles. Now I use the Napa Gold filters.

Pete

From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net  Tue Aug 14 16:32:10 2012
From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Prather)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:32:10 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
In-Reply-To: <1344980307.66876.YahooMailClassic@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1344980307.66876.YahooMailClassic@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AC19C519-5856-436E-9F83-6DB734AD8E42@sbcglobal.net>

I have used Fram for 30 years or more on all my vehicles (6) of them and never
a problem either. I'm not about to change.

Sent from Ipad

On Aug 14, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Gary McCormick <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I have heard /about/ those FRAM horror stories, but never had any problems
> myself. Put 250k on my PL521 Pickup, never used anything but FRAM filters
--
> never had a problem.
>
> Gary McCormick
> San Jose, CA
> SRL311-13921
>
>
> --- On Tue, 8/14/12, Mike Harper <roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: Mike Harper <roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
> To: "Gordon Maness" <gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com>
> Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Tuesday, August 14, 2012, 2:13 PM
>
> I HAVE heard some horror stories about FRAM filters. Catastrophic Failures.
> I WILL NOT use Fram.
>
>
> Mike Harper, CAI, AARE
> Harper Auction & Realty
> 843-729-4996
> "Experience Sells"
>
> www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET
>
>
>
> --- On Tue, 8/14/12, Gordon Maness <gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Gordon Maness <gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
> To:
> Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Tuesday, August 14, 2012, 4:30 PM
>
>
> I use what is available.I've use the Dodge filter and Ford too.Just change
> the
> filter and oil every 3k miles. g with a fleet.
>> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:17:51 -0400
>> From: tputland at charter.net
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From sewebberlaw at gmail.com  Tue Aug 14 17:23:13 2012
From: sewebberlaw at gmail.com (Stephen Webber)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:23:13 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
In-Reply-To: <SNT137-W257CE0169789945A5D8D2BB2B70@phx.gbl>
References: <65c3a0c7.28862e.13926243907.Webtop.43@charter.net>
	<SNT137-W257CE0169789945A5D8D2BB2B70@phx.gbl>
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I have changed my own oil on a variety of vehicles since time began (I am
almost 70).  At one time consumers reports tested auto oil filters and the
Fram came out at or near the top for most vehicles.  Except for the most
recently purchased that have a computer telling me when to change the oil,
I change oil and filter every 3,00 miles or as close to that as possible

However, on my 93 Ford Explorer with over 300,000 miles I have used
whatever filter Pep Boys, O'Rillys, or Napa happens to have on sale,
usually Purolator, Fram, or sometimes Wix.  And any major brand of oil
that's on sale.  The same goes with my other vehicles, a Toyota pick-up, a
Honda, and until I recently sold it, a '97 M-Bz. they get whatever comes
along, as long as it is a major brand filter.  No vehicle I have owned has
suffered engine wear or damage that i can attribute to either oil or
filter.  An oil change exception is my '63 1500 roadster.  It does not get
driven 3,000 miles a year, but does get an oil change annually.  My
motorhead friends who only use synthetics and exotic brands of filters
seriously disagree with my attitude.  So there you have it!

Steve webber

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Gordon Maness
<gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com>wrote:

> I use what is available.I've use the Dodge filter and Ford too.Just change
> the
> filter and oil every 3k miles. g with a fleet.
>  > Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:17:51 -0400
> > From: tputland at charter.net
> > To: mantolik at oh.rr.com
> > CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
> >
> > Paul is lucky he has running water and electricity out in the sticks
> > where he lives! HAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
> >
> > Sorry Paul, couldn't resist!
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Mark wrote:
> >
> > > Paul - got a local O'Reilly's down there?  The one up here sells Wix
> > > filters...
> > >
> > > Mark
> > > -Ohio
> > > On 08/14/2012 12:18 PM, Paul Kort wrote:
> > >>    Okay, what's a WIX and who sells them.  I know I've led a
> > >> sheltered life
> > >> here in Ohio (with a brief stint in Virginia with Uncle Sam), but who
> > >> sells
> > >> WIX filters?  And has anybody tried one of the new Extra Gursd Frame
> > >> filters?
> > >>
> > >> Paul
> > >> ________________________________________
> > >>
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From wilhouse400 at att.net  Tue Aug 14 18:12:25 2012
From: wilhouse400 at att.net (Ken & Tammy Williams)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:12:25 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
References: <65c3a0c7.28862e.13926243907.Webtop.43@charter.net><SNT137-W257CE0169789945A5D8D2BB2B70@phx.gbl>
	<CAM_ShUMvYc_TZtr_xTSmJRZujYisXjAhqypig9uLi73rzWPU+Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F96A479255DF4D8698D40D61EC4C70F3@wilhouse>

I've been using a K&N oil filter.  I just noticed on the 311s tech section 
it says it works on the roadsters with the drain back tube removed.  What 
does that mean?  Is the drain back tube on the car or on the filter?
I just screwed it on.  Should I have removed something first?
Ken Williams
67 1600
Janesville, WI

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Tue Aug 14 19:30:42 2012
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:30:42 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
In-Reply-To: <F96A479255DF4D8698D40D61EC4C70F3@wilhouse>
References: <65c3a0c7.28862e.13926243907.Webtop.43@charter.net>
	<SNT137-W257CE0169789945A5D8D2BB2B70@phx.gbl>
	<CAM_ShUMvYc_TZtr_xTSmJRZujYisXjAhqypig9uLi73rzWPU+Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<F96A479255DF4D8698D40D61EC4C70F3@wilhouse>
Message-ID: <1D1192EB-7427-4F2A-8B1B-7B17A666DBA3@netscape.net>

Modern filters have an anti drain back feature so the tube is not
necessary...but there IS debate about that. If so you can use shorter filters.
Check out the WIX site for an explanation of whaylt makes a good filter

Linda

Sent from my iPod

On Aug 14, 2012, at 5:12 PM, "Ken & Tammy Williams" <wilhouse400 at att.net>
wrote:

> I've been using a K&N oil filter.  I just noticed on the 311s tech section
it says it works on the roadsters with the drain back tube removed.  What does
that mean?  Is the drain back tube on the car or on the filter?
> I just screwed it on.  Should I have removed something first?
> Ken Williams
> 67 1600
> Janesville, WI
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Aug 15 11:40:38 2012
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:40:38 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] drain back tube (was "oil, fuel, air filters")
In-Reply-To: <F96A479255DF4D8698D40D61EC4C70F3@wilhouse>
References: <65c3a0c7.28862e.13926243907.Webtop.43@charter.net><SNT137-W257CE0169789945A5D8D2BB2B70@phx.gbl>
	<CAM_ShUMvYc_TZtr_xTSmJRZujYisXjAhqypig9uLi73rzWPU+Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<F96A479255DF4D8698D40D61EC4C70F3@wilhouse>
Message-ID: <004801cd7b0d$190b88b0$4b229a10$@net>

Early engines had a tube to prevent oil draining back, thus keeping the
filter full to provide oil when first starting the eninge. Part of Item #6:

http://www.carpartsmanual.com/datsun311/Datsun311Index/Engine1600R16/OilFilt
er/tabid/174/Default.aspx

You don't need that tube w/ modern filters that contain a check valve that
provides the same functionality.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ken & Tammy
Williams
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 5:12 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters

I've been using a K&N oil filter.  I just noticed on the 311s tech section
it says it works on the roadsters with the drain back tube removed.  What
does that mean?  Is the drain back tube on the car or on the filter?
I just screwed it on.  Should I have removed something first?
Ken Williams
67 1600
Janesville, WI

From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Tue Aug 14 15:47:56 2012
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:47:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
In-Reply-To: <973313086.517708.1344980427861.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1344980876.18549.YahooMailClassic@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The Wix website has a great part # lookup feature. Just remember to select
"Nissan" as the make (they don't list Datsun anyway...).

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

--- On Tue, 8/14/12, Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net> wrote:

From: Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
To: "Paul Kort" <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Date: Tuesday, August 14, 2012, 2:40 PM

If you go in with the part number, they should be able to figure it out.



Or you can order it from Amazon (seriously).


Gordon Glasgow
Renton, WA
www.gordon-glasgow.org

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Kort" <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
To: "Gordon Maness" <gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com>
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 2:16:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters

B B Hey, we got water out here! B Come out of a well. B Thanks Tim! B Next
visit, you can sleep in the shed.

B B We have a NAPA and Auto Zone in town. B Have to drive out of the county
to
find any thing else. B And if you don't speak GM trucks or tractors, you are
not welcomed at NAPA! B Maybe I can sneak in and find the right oil filter?

Paul
Lost in Ohio

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Gordon Maness
<gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com>wrote:

> I use what is available.I've use the Dodge filter and Ford too.Just change
> the
> filter and oil every 3k miles. g with a fleet.
> B > Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:17:51 -0400
> > From: tputland at charter.net
> > To: mantolik at oh.rr.com
> > CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
> >
> > Paul is lucky he has running water and electricity out in the sticks
> > where he lives! HAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
> >
> > Sorry Paul, couldn't resist!
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Mark wrote:
> >
> > > Paul - got a local O'Reilly's down there? B The one up here sells Wix
> > > filters...
> > >
> > > Mark
> > > -Ohio
> > > On 08/14/2012 12:18 PM, Paul Kort wrote:
> > >> B  B Okay, what's a WIX and who sells them. B I know I've led a
> > >> sheltered life
> > >> here in Ohio (with a brief stint in Virginia with Uncle Sam), but who
> > >> sells
> > >> WIX filters? B And has anybody tried one of the new Extra Gursd Frame
> > >> filters?
> > >>
> > >> Paul
> > >> ________________________________________
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From tom at datsun2000.com  Wed Aug 15 21:59:04 2012
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 20:59:04 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
Message-ID: <502C7008.9080909@datsun2000.com>

Every time I have used the WIX catalog the filter specified had the 
wrong threads for the roadster engine.  That is why I use the WIX 51512 
filter.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Las Vegas


On 8/14/2012 2:47:56 PM, Gary McCormick (gkmcc at sbcglobal.net) wrote:
 > The Wix website has a great part# lookup feature. Just remember to select
 > "Nissan" as the make (they don't list Datsun anyway...).
 >
 > Gary McCormick
 > San Jose, CA
 >
 > --- On Tue, 8/14/12, Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net> wrote:
 >
 > From: Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
 > To: "Paul Kort" <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
 > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
 > Date: Tuesday, August 14, 2012, 2:40 PM
 >
 > If you go in with the part number, they should be able to figure it out.
 >
 >
 >
 > Or you can order it from Amazon (seriously).
 >
 >
 > Gordon Glasgow
 > Renton, WA
 > www.gordon-glasgow.org
 >
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: "Paul Kort" <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
 > To: "Gordon Maness" <gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com>
 > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
 > Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 2:16:59 PM
 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
 >
 > B B Hey, we got water out here! B Come out of a well. B Thanks Tim! B 
Next
 > visit, you can sleep in the shed.
 >
 > B B We have a NAPA and Auto Zone in town. B Have to drive out of the 
county
 > to
 > find any thing else. B And if you don't speak GM trucks or tractors, 
you are
 > not welcomed at NAPA! B Maybe I can sneak in and find the right oil 
filter?
 >
 > Paul
 > Lost in Ohio
 >
 > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Gordon Maness
 > <gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com>wrote:
 >
 > > I use what is available.I've use the Dodge filter and Ford too.Just 
change
 > > the
 > > filter and oil every 3k miles. g with a fleet.
 > > B > Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:17:51 -0400
 > > > From: tputland at charter.net
 > > > To: mantolik at oh.rr.com
 > > > CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
 > > > Subject: Re:

From plhbauman at earthlink.net  Wed Aug 15 22:31:05 2012
From: plhbauman at earthlink.net (Paul Bauman)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 21:31:05 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
In-Reply-To: <502C7008.9080909@datsun2000.com>
References: <502C7008.9080909@datsun2000.com>
Message-ID: <502C7789.9040208@earthlink.net>

Nuff said.

Paul Bauman
67 1600
Westminster, CA



On 08/15/2012 08:59 PM, Tom Hendricksen wrote:
> Every time I have used the WIX catalog the filter specified had the 
> wrong threads for the roadster engine.  That is why I use the WIX 
> 51512 filter.
>
> Tom
> 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
> Las Vegas

From chalsted at comcast.net  Thu Aug 16 03:53:19 2012
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 09:53:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] locked up 1600 engine
Message-ID: <616930646.426927.1345110799561.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

so a friend at a distance was cranking his 1600 engine and said the engine locked up- pulled the plugs, won't turn...seems to me locking up is usually higher rpms and lack of lubrication, has anyone ever heard of one locking up while cranking? maybe a starter issue somehow? 
Craig 

From phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov  Thu Aug 16 05:18:48 2012
From: phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-EE11))
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 06:18:48 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] locked up 1600 engine
In-Reply-To: <616930646.426927.1345110799561.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CC524148.11350%phillip.b.hall@nasa.gov>

Yep - Had a Fiat motor pop the head off an intake valve on a new motor the
first time I tried to crank it.  The head jammed the piston and froze the
works up.  Pulled the head, replaced the valve and was good to go.


On 8/16/12 4:53 AM, "chalsted at comcast.net" <chalsted at comcast.net> wrote:

> so a friend at a distance was cranking his 1600 engine and said the engine
> locked up- pulled the plugs, won't turn...seems to me locking up is usually
> higher rpms and lack of lubrication, has anyone ever heard of one locking
up
> while cranking? maybe a starter issue somehow?
> Craig
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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Thu Aug 16 05:54:11 2012
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 07:54:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] locked up 1600 engine
Message-ID: <22c06.c361396.3d5e3963@aol.com>

Did they try turning it backwards with a socket on the crank pulley? That  
will sort out if it is something like a stuck open valve or a tight bearing. 
It  it turns backwards easily, turns forward easily then suddenly stops, it 
is  hitting something internally. If it won't turn either way then 
something is  siezed up.
 
keith

From mspahr01 at earthlink.net  Thu Aug 16 07:17:52 2012
From: mspahr01 at earthlink.net (Marty Spahr)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 09:17:52 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Sales Channels/67.5 Datsun 2000 Sale
Message-ID: <000301cd7bb1$8a9634e0$9fc29ea0$@earthlink.net>

Can I get opinions on what you believe might be the best web-site or avenue
for selling my 67.5 Datsun 2000 Roadster. SRL311-00269,

all original, numbers matching, "B" Cam, Solex Carbs, 8 qt oil pan, roll
bar, etc.

I was thinking Hemmings Classified.  I thought I should stay away from EBAY
Motors? 

Your thoughts would be much appreciated!                        

 

Best Regards,

Marty Spahr

Mspahr01 at earthlink.net

PH.352-742-0139

FX.352-742-1130

Mbl.813-340-9880

From tputland at charter.net  Thu Aug 16 07:33:38 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 09:33:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Sales Channels/67.5 Datsun 2000 Sale
Message-ID: <382cfa0b.29f4b0.1392fa3ab0b.Webtop.43@charter.net>

Why not start on 311s.org......our mothership?


On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Marty Spahr wrote:

> Can I get opinions on what you believe might be the best web-site or 
> avenue
> for selling my 67.5 Datsun 2000 Roadster. SRL311-00269,
>
> all original, numbers matching, "B" Cam, Solex Carbs, 8 qt oil pan, 
> roll
> bar, etc.
>
> I was thinking Hemmings Classified.  I thought I should stay away from 
> EBAY
> Motors?
> Your thoughts would be much appreciated!
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Marty Spahr
>
> Mspahr01 at earthlink.net
>
> PH.352-742-0139
>
> FX.352-742-1130
>
> Mbl.813-340-9880
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From wilhouse400 at att.net  Thu Aug 16 07:40:03 2012
From: wilhouse400 at att.net (Kendall Williams)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 06:40:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Sales Channels/67.5 Datsun 2000 Sale
In-Reply-To: <000301cd7bb1$8a9634e0$9fc29ea0$@earthlink.net>
References: <000301cd7bb1$8a9634e0$9fc29ea0$@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1345124403.92407.YahooMailRC@web184702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I've seen some really nice cars/trucks on Autotrader Classics.  
Ken 

From davidbentz at gmail.com  Thu Aug 16 07:49:08 2012
From: davidbentz at gmail.com (David Bentz)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 09:49:08 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Sales Channels/67.5 Datsun 2000 Sale
In-Reply-To: <1345124403.92407.YahooMailRC@web184702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <000301cd7bb1$8a9634e0$9fc29ea0$@earthlink.net>
	<1345124403.92407.YahooMailRC@web184702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CALO7pZrHPyy2vC5Afd_4D8NoDd9yysCUEHthoJt6LpENYyYS3w@mail.gmail.com>

It sounds like a really awesome car. I'd love to see some pics. It sounds
really special. But I think it's really what you are after.

If you want the biggest buck and don't care who gets the car and what
happens to it, then I'd do an auction house, or depending where you are,
take it to an historic event (e.g. monterey) to sell it.

If you want to get the car into good hands, the list or 311.org would be
great. I think a few people had luck listing the car on the site, then
cross listing it on BaT for extra exposure. Maybe hemmings. After 311 or
BaT, I'd take a look at other places/listings that other Datsun's are
listed (kind of a 'birds of a feather' thing)...

Like some others, I'm not a fan of Ebay. As the seller there is too much
room for error that you are going to end up paying for (either monetary or
regret).

Best of luck w/your sale.
Dave



On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Kendall Williams <wilhouse400 at att.net>wrote:

> I've seen some really nice cars/trucks on Autotrader Classics.
> Ken
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From reefpix at gmail.com  Thu Aug 16 12:12:51 2012
From: reefpix at gmail.com (James Wiseman)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 13:12:51 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Sales Channels/67.5 Datsun 2000 Sale
Message-ID: <CACPDVq=ADVm1avSYP2DVLhqBGVkF8wS5+eLyEwVY9_XKwU-myA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Marty,

After selling my '69 2000 on BaT I am a big proponent.  I had 3 interested
buyers lined after the first day of the listing.  Most of the people on BaT
are "high end" classic car enthusiasts, you will get more "wheat" and less
"chaff" than you will on Craigslist or Ebay.

I don't want to start a flame war on here - but if you list it on the usual
Datsun sites you won't get top dollar because for some strange reason,
Datsun enthusiasts seem to undervalue the cars.

BaT does have listing costs and requirements.  If you want to specifically
list your car through them you have to let them have it exclusively for 2
weeks so you can't simultaneously list it on Ebay like one poster
suggested.  That only happens to lucky folks that list a car on Ebay or CL
and BaT posts it as a link and a "story."

Good luck!
James Wiseman
Houston TX

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> It sounds like a really awesome car. I'd love to see some pics. It sounds
> really special. But I think it's really what you are after.
>
> If you want the biggest buck and don't care who gets the car and what
> happens to it, then I'd do an auction house, or depending where you are,
> take it to an historic event (e.g. monterey) to sell it.
>
> If you want to get the car into good hands, the list or 311.org would be
> great. I think a few people had luck listing the car on the site, then
> cross listing it on BaT for extra exposure. Maybe hemmings. After 311 or
> BaT, I'd take a look at other places/listings that other Datsun's are
> listed (kind of a 'birds of a feather' thing)...
>
> Like some others, I'm not a fan of Ebay. As the seller there is too much
> room for error that you are going to end up paying for (either monetary or
> regret).
>
> Best of luck w/your sale.
> Dave

From sewebberlaw at gmail.com  Thu Aug 16 15:05:50 2012
From: sewebberlaw at gmail.com (Stephen Webber)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 14:05:50 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] locked up 1600 engine
In-Reply-To: <616930646.426927.1345110799561.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <616930646.426927.1345110799561.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAM_ShUPV6y0vi4to0WE1BVMZCthwao_J+REW9BSJnMysFn1O3g@mail.gmail.com>

Strong possibility the starter jammed against the ring gear on the
flywheel.  This can happen if the engin backfires at just the wrong moment
while cranking.  Try rocking the vehicle, but there is danger of damaging
the starter.  Alternative plan:Pull the starter if it can be reached easily
and see if the engine frees up.

Steve Webber

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 2:53 AM, <chalsted at comcast.net> wrote:

> so a friend at a distance was cranking his 1600 engine and said the engine
> locked up- pulled the plugs, won't turn...seems to me locking up is usually
> higher rpms and lack of lubrication, has anyone ever heard of one locking
> up while cranking? maybe a starter issue somehow?
> Craig
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From aultgc at att.net  Thu Aug 16 19:30:26 2012
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 20:30:26 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] drain back tube (was "oil, fuel, air filters")
References: <65c3a0c7.28862e.13926243907.Webtop.43@charter.net><SNT137-W257CE0169789945A5D8D2BB2B70@phx.gbl><CAM_ShUMvYc_TZtr_xTSmJRZujYisXjAhqypig9uLi73rzWPU+Q@mail.gmail.com><F96A479255DF4D8698D40D61EC4C70F3@wilhouse>
	<004801cd7b0d$190b88b0$4b229a10$@net>
Message-ID: <E478E69E9D2E47728D8BA185528F2B46@gaxp1>

It wasn't just early engines.  TO the best of my knowledge, all roadster 
engines were equipped with anti-drainback tubes.  On later cars with spin-on 
filters, the tube is a light press fit into the center of the filter base.

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 12:40 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] drain back tube (was "oil, fuel, air filters")


> Early engines had a tube to prevent oil draining back, thus keeping the
> filter full to provide oil when first starting the eninge. Part of Item 
> #6:
>
> http://www.carpartsmanual.com/datsun311/Datsun311Index/Engine1600R16/OilFilt
> er/tabid/174/Default.aspx
>
> You don't need that tube w/ modern filters that contain a check valve that
> provides the same functionality.
>
> Pete
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ken & Tammy
> Williams
> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 5:12 PM
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
>
> I've been using a K&N oil filter.  I just noticed on the 311s tech section
> it says it works on the roadsters with the drain back tube removed.  What
> does that mean?  Is the drain back tube on the car or on the filter?
> I just screwed it on.  Should I have removed something first?
> Ken Williams
> 67 1600
> Janesville, WI
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From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Fri Aug 17 06:24:45 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:24:45 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Rock Auto discount code?
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEtZBbXpCm+vbUx9SKdJC3D3tjuqtQg54yDDe0EtgALv_Q@mail.gmail.com>

  Finally time to get a new master cylinder.  Rock has it listed at $27.
Is there a discount code out there to save me a few dollars?

TIA,

Paul
Ohio

From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Fri Aug 17 06:57:55 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:57:55 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Gauge voltage regulator
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEtYPnmMcqCoJw0Rfb+szia_MsTW3zcPGxhD0DapFAC_hA@mail.gmail.com>

  Okay, I forgot!  I'm old, so please forgive me.

  I remember reading a discussion about the voltage regulator for the fuel
& temp gauges.  What was the final outcome?  Is there a replacement part
out there?

  And yes, the clutch master failed and while limping home in 4th gear, the
gauges died.  Not a good roadster ride!

TIA,
Paul
Ohio

From futofab at gsinet.net  Fri Aug 17 06:58:06 2012
From: futofab at gsinet.net (David Patten)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:58:06 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Rock Auto discount code?
In-Reply-To: <CAFEMhEtZBbXpCm+vbUx9SKdJC3D3tjuqtQg54yDDe0EtgALv_Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFEMhEtZBbXpCm+vbUx9SKdJC3D3tjuqtQg54yDDe0EtgALv_Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAC08eSM1dSuov9qA7WCkKweG3RM=Ns5HzZoyAVmxEQ0yo2WGcQ@mail.gmail.com>

Paul (and the rest of us cheap SOB's) should book mark this thread on Ratsun
http://community.ratsun.net/topic/7448-rock-auto-discount-codes/page__st__120

They keep track of RockAuto's 5% discount codes pretty closely.

Current code shown is *106379848740988 *expires on October 7, 2012
Hope this helps.
--
Dave Patten
Dunbarton, NH
www.FutoFab.com <http://www.futofab.com/>
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>wrote:

>   Finally time to get a new master cylinder.  Rock has it listed at $27.
> Is there a discount code out there to save me a few dollars?
>
> TIA,
>
> Paul
> Ohio
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From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Fri Aug 17 08:57:30 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:57:30 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
In-Reply-To: <f46d043bd7581f145a04c7774aab@google.com>
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Message-ID: <CAFEMhEtTxSRyEEiv++9hM9+KAM6VWTEvuzjx-UCFSgmBnud=_Q@mail.gmail.com>

  Anybody have a good email address for Ross at Sports Imports?  the one on
his web site got me the message below.

Paul

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Ross,

  My temp and fuel gauges died yesterday.  Since they died together, I know
I need that little voltage regulator mounted by the steering column under
the dash.  Do you have them?
  And maybe after 16 years of owning my '69 1600, its time to get side
lights for it.  I saw the tear drop ones at $30 each, do you also have the
read ones.  How much for a set of all four?

Thanks,

Paul Kort
Mount Gilead, Ohio

PaulsDatsunStuff at gmail.com

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Aug 17 09:39:30 2012
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:39:30 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Gauge voltage regulator
In-Reply-To: <CAFEMhEtYPnmMcqCoJw0Rfb+szia_MsTW3zcPGxhD0DapFAC_hA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFEMhEtYPnmMcqCoJw0Rfb+szia_MsTW3zcPGxhD0DapFAC_hA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002701cd7c8e$82225220$8666f660$@net>

I'd say search the archives, but it hasn't archived anything since Feb. Yo!
Mark!

Anyway, I think the electronically-inclined folks figured something out. I'm
pretty sure I saved that info (yup, found it....March-April thread), and
will forward to you.

Pete

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[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Kort
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 5:58 AM
To: Roadster Stuff
Subject: [Roadsters] Gauge voltage regulator

  Okay, I forgot!  I'm old, so please forgive me.

  I remember reading a discussion about the voltage regulator for the fuel &
temp gauges.  What was the final outcome?  Is there a replacement part out
there?

  And yes, the clutch master failed and while limping home in 4th gear, the
gauges died.  Not a good roadster ride!

TIA,
Paul
Ohio
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From cehubbard at verizon.net  Sat Aug 18 07:54:45 2012
From: cehubbard at verizon.net (Charles Hubbard)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 08:54:45 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel/Temp terminal wire colors for 1964 SPL310
Message-ID: <00f501cd7d49$069009c0$13b01d40$@net>

Can someone please tell me the wiring colors for the 4 terminals on the
heat/fuel, idiot Light gauge on my 1964 SPL310?  I did a lousy job of
labeling my wires and want to ensure that I install it correctly.  There are
only four (4) lug 4 terminals plus a ground.  The gas gauge terminals are
labeled "Tank" and "IGN".  The Temperature terminals are labeled "UNIT" and
"GN".  The four wire colors I think go to these devices are colored:

 

1- red/yellow, 2- green/yellow,  3- yellow,  4- yellow (ugh)

 

I can pull out the old meter and determine if they go to the fuel or temp
sender, but finding the correct terminal is still a 50/50 shot without some
idea of which wire colors go where.  The drawing in the manual does not show
colors.  I was hoping someone had a 64 they could take a look at and tell me
what they see.

 

Charlie Hubbard

1964 SPL310

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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 18 13:02:35 2012
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 12:02:35 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Float Chatter
Message-ID: <SNT106-W251D53CE5CDFA4CF0ACE53DFBB0@phx.gbl>

1970 Stroker
Recently I have noticed a sort of "rattle" coming from the car at RPM in
excess of 2K (in and out of gear). It sounds like the carburettor floats are
rattling/chattering.
Anyone have any ideas??

Peter Harrison - Eliza [TOAD SAN]
818 448 3181

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Sat Aug 18 15:06:42 2012
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 14:06:42 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Float Chatter
In-Reply-To: <SNT106-W251D53CE5CDFA4CF0ACE53DFBB0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT106-W251D53CE5CDFA4CF0ACE53DFBB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <B7A4BB5D-B578-4A20-AD98-467EC36C297E@netscape.net>

You might get more of a response if you post on 311

Linda

Sent from my iPod

On Aug 18, 2012, at 12:02 PM, peter harrison <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> 1970 Stroker
> Recently I have noticed a sort of "rattle" coming from the car at RPM in
> excess of 2K (in and out of gear). It sounds like the carburettor floats
are
> rattling/chattering.
> Anyone have any ideas??
>
> Peter Harrison - Eliza [TOAD SAN]
> 818 448 3181
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sat Aug 18 17:16:06 2012
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 23:16:06 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Float Chatter
In-Reply-To: <B7A4BB5D-B578-4A20-AD98-467EC36C297E@netscape.net>
References: <SNT106-W251D53CE5CDFA4CF0ACE53DFBB0@phx.gbl>
	<B7A4BB5D-B578-4A20-AD98-467EC36C297E@netscape.net>
Message-ID: <2104589618-1345331768-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-70693675-@b2.c20.bise6.blackberry>

.....And add your stroker info to the Stroker Poll in the Technical forum.  

Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: Linda J <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 14:06:42 
To: peter harrison<granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>
Cc: datsun<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Float Chatter

You might get more of a response if you post on 311

Linda

Sent from my iPod

On Aug 18, 2012, at 12:02 PM, peter harrison <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> 1970 Stroker
> Recently I have noticed a sort of "rattle" coming from the car at RPM in
> excess of 2K (in and out of gear). It sounds like the carburettor floats
are
> rattling/chattering.
> Anyone have any ideas??
>
> Peter Harrison - Eliza [TOAD SAN]
> 818 448 3181
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 18 17:20:38 2012
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:20:38 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Float Chatter (solution found)
In-Reply-To: <B7A4BB5D-B578-4A20-AD98-467EC36C297E@netscape.net>
References: <SNT106-W251D53CE5CDFA4CF0ACE53DFBB0@phx.gbl>,
	<B7A4BB5D-B578-4A20-AD98-467EC36C297E@netscape.net>
Message-ID: <SNT106-W60A8E70BE0B7A2B09C97F3DFBB0@phx.gbl>

Tried/Checked all offered solutions - all tight, no cracks, oil in carb -
thanks
 for speedy replies.



Not surprising no-one found the solution - it was the extra alternator I
 had installed for the purpose of alignment (not actually activated)
that suddenly started vibrating (totally locked down - boltwise) - guess
 the shaft/pulley was vibrating against the casing.

Interesting that it suddenly started happening - perhaps weakening engine
mounts ?? The stroker does idle differently and perhaps the extra power ??

Sure sounded like a rattle/chatter rather than a vibration though.

Thanks again.



Peter Harrison - Eliza [TOAD SAN]
818 448 3181

From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Sat Aug 18 18:30:34 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 20:30:34 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Float Chatter (solution found)
In-Reply-To: <SNT106-W60A8E70BE0B7A2B09C97F3DFBB0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT106-W251D53CE5CDFA4CF0ACE53DFBB0@phx.gbl>
	<B7A4BB5D-B578-4A20-AD98-467EC36C297E@netscape.net>
	<SNT106-W60A8E70BE0B7A2B09C97F3DFBB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEtw7Y=aA2U6VZKsGepDXncR-W7YPFpMTcn8rWiTJbCY+g@mail.gmail.com>

  Hey, THAT was my next guess!

On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 7:20 PM, peter harrison <
granvillecomputing at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Tried/Checked all offered solutions - all tight, no cracks, oil in carb -
> thanks
>  for speedy replies.
>
>
>
> Not surprising no-one found the solution - it was the extra alternator I
>  had installed for the purpose of alignment (not actually activated)
> that suddenly started vibrating (totally locked down - boltwise) - guess
>  the shaft/pulley was vibrating against the casing.
>
> Interesting that it suddenly started happening - perhaps weakening engine
> mounts ?? The stroker does idle differently and perhaps the extra power ??
>
> Sure sounded like a rattle/chatter rather than a vibration though.
>
> Thanks again.
>
>
>
> Peter Harrison - Eliza [TOAD SAN]
> 818 448 3181
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From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 18 23:47:33 2012
From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 22:47:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel/Temp terminal wire colors for 1964 SPL310
In-Reply-To: <00f501cd7d49$069009c0$13b01d40$@net>
Message-ID: <1345355253.3453.YahooMailClassic@web161301.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Hey Charlie!
I'm sending you a couple photos off list.
Patti D.

From tputland at charter.net  Sun Aug 19 06:48:50 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 08:48:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Float Chatter (solution found)
Message-ID: <7f517785.2bf1c2.1393eedbaf5.Webtop.45@charter.net>

"all offered solutions"

I wish people would post to the list instead of just the initial person 
posting the question. I like to read the offered solution thoughts for 
my own eductation on this cars.

soap box day....

tim


On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 6:20 PM, peter harrison wrote:

> Tried/Checked all offered solutions - all tight, no cracks, oil in 
> carb -
> thanks
>  for speedy replies.
>
>
>
> Not surprising no-one found the solution - it was the extra alternator 
> I
>  had installed for the purpose of alignment (not actually activated)
> that suddenly started vibrating (totally locked down - boltwise) - 
> guess
>  the shaft/pulley was vibrating against the casing.
>
> Interesting that it suddenly started happening - perhaps weakening 
> engine
> mounts ?? The stroker does idle differently and perhaps the extra 
> power ??
>
> Sure sounded like a rattle/chatter rather than a vibration though.
>
> Thanks again.
>
>
>
> Peter Harrison - Eliza [TOAD SAN]
> 818 448 3181
> ________________________________________
>
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>
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From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Sun Aug 19 12:49:47 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 14:49:47 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] KA roadster for sale?
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEtiHR+RWQ0FuRLAvxarU1erp7QipuibCEU66x7DPcjg2w@mail.gmail.com>

  So, is anybody out there interested in a '69 1600 with a KA24E & 5 speed
in it?  Not sure if I'm ready to sell or not, but thinking about it.  Needs
paint, but is rust free, stripped to bare metal back in '96.  KA was
rebuilt in 2004.  It came out of a '89 240SX.  I have a hardtop, soft top,
still in the box, and a reconditioned frame and front bow, just never got
around to installing it.
  The clutch master cylinder failed last Thursday and I have a new one on
order.  It will be installed as soon as it shows up.  Front suspension was
totally rebuilt back in 1997.  Transmission got all new bearings back in
2005.  And I swapped in a 3.70 ring & pinion from a 2000 for better
cruising RPMs.  I drove it down to Road Atlanta for the Mitty several years
ago.  That was a GREAT ride!  Photos available on request.

Paul
Ohio

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Sun Aug 19 15:30:54 2012
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 14:30:54 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] KA roadster for sale?
In-Reply-To: <CAFEMhEtiHR+RWQ0FuRLAvxarU1erp7QipuibCEU66x7DPcjg2w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFEMhEtiHR+RWQ0FuRLAvxarU1erp7QipuibCEU66x7DPcjg2w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BE55227A-0927-463D-A938-FE9E49186D78@netscape.net>

Didn't that list of rebuilds just convince you to keep it?

Linda:-)

Sent from my iPod

On Aug 19, 2012, at 11:49 AM, Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com> wrote:

>  So, is anybody out there interested in a '69 1600 with a KA24E & 5 speed
> in it?  Not sure if I'm ready to sell or not, but thinking about it.  Needs
> paint, but is rust free, stripped to bare metal back in '96.  KA was
> rebuilt in 2004.  It came out of a '89 240SX.  I have a hardtop, soft top,
> still in the box, and a reconditioned frame and front bow, just never got
> around to installing it.
>  The clutch master cylinder failed last Thursday and I have a new one on
> order.  It will be installed as soon as it shows up.  Front suspension was
> totally rebuilt back in 1997.  Transmission got all new bearings back in
> 2005.  And I swapped in a 3.70 ring & pinion from a 2000 for better
> cruising RPMs.  I drove it down to Road Atlanta for the Mitty several years
> ago.  That was a GREAT ride!  Photos available on request.
>
> Paul
> Ohio
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From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Sun Aug 19 16:30:52 2012
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (dave n)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 17:30:52 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] project for someone brave
Message-ID: <136EC2DA37614B65B8516F8288569BC6@Spitfire>

therebs an old truck here in texas . . .

scary!

http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/3170723269.html

From roadster at astound.net  Sun Aug 19 22:51:37 2012
From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 21:51:37 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] project for someone brave
In-Reply-To: <136EC2DA37614B65B8516F8288569BC6@Spitfire>
References: <136EC2DA37614B65B8516F8288569BC6@Spitfire>
Message-ID: <9E7FCB07-C3C3-47C8-8ED8-36946DCB199C@astound.net>

That truck has the Datsun/Nissan logo slot in the front bumper. I remember
watching an owner of a similar Datsun truck insert a crank in that slot and
kick over the engine to start it. Handy if the battery goes dead.

Fred - SSF, CA


On Aug 19, 2012, at 3:30 PM, "dave n" <sumton at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> therebs an old truck here in texas . . .
>
> scary!
>
> http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/3170723269.html

From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Mon Aug 20 13:18:07 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 15:18:07 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch master cylinder shims?
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEu-2CZH3vBwd3qR5X4JpqAUY0BWvTqtMQT3r-Tg62HKPw@mail.gmail.com>

  Done with the easy part, the old cylinder is out.  One shim popped out
when I pulled the master off the firewall, and there were two shims stuck
to the firewall.  I know the two were on the top bolt, and looking at the
crud, I'd guess the third one was also on the top bolt.  Is that possible;
3 on top, none on the bottom?  Just what are the shims adjusting for?

  I got the new master from Rock Auto at $31, including discount and
shipping to Ohio.  After I had ordered it, I got a note off the list that
O'Rielley's sold them for $20.  Oh well, just thought I'd apss that info on.

TIA,

Paul
Ohio
1969 1600

From davidbentz at gmail.com  Mon Aug 20 13:28:11 2012
From: davidbentz at gmail.com (David Bentz)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 15:28:11 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch master cylinder shims?
In-Reply-To: <CAFEMhEu-2CZH3vBwd3qR5X4JpqAUY0BWvTqtMQT3r-Tg62HKPw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFEMhEu-2CZH3vBwd3qR5X4JpqAUY0BWvTqtMQT3r-Tg62HKPw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALO7pZokXfGYWTiwQKfu5-ELzUnfWUkkT-BXLF6Qf5fjMGmu1Q@mail.gmail.com>

Paul you MIGHT be able to send that link to Rock Auto for a price
adjustment.

I know that i've done that w/Summit when i purchased a magnaflow cat for my
318ti.



On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>wrote:

>   Done with the easy part, the old cylinder is out.  One shim popped out
> when I pulled the master off the firewall, and there were two shims stuck
> to the firewall.  I know the two were on the top bolt, and looking at the
> crud, I'd guess the third one was also on the top bolt.  Is that possible;
> 3 on top, none on the bottom?  Just what are the shims adjusting for?
>
>   I got the new master from Rock Auto at $31, including discount and
> shipping to Ohio.  After I had ordered it, I got a note off the list that
> O'Rielley's sold them for $20.  Oh well, just thought I'd apss that info
> on.
>
> TIA,
>
> Paul
> Ohio
> 1969 1600
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From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Mon Aug 20 14:33:17 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 16:33:17 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch Master search
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEtt7+88VzUoZqcOdH3bBOLmcpJ=mc=fOrSh87-hw1V55g@mail.gmail.com>

  Amazon was $29.28 + shipping.

  Advanced Auto is $46.89 + $8,66 shipping.  WOW!

  Ebay has them from $25 to $52 plus shipping.

  Auto Parts Warehouse is $38.46 + shipping.

  Sears says it is no longer available?

  Newegg.com came up on a Google search for the part number, but they seem
to think it is a Stanley saw?

  Gooddealsonlineshopping.com has it for , well, it take you back to Amazon
at $29.28?

  Nexttag.com is at $29.85

  PartsGeek.com wants $30.10

  AutoParts.pricegrabber.com list two places to buy it from, $29.28 &
$46.89?

  And somebody told me last week that O'Reilly Auto parts had them at $20,
their web site doesn't recognise the part number and says they don't carry
a master clutch cylinder for a 1969 Nissan 1600.  So, I'm happy with the
quick delivery from Rock Auto, ordered Friday morning and delivered Monday
noon.  And I'm content with a price of $31 including shipping to Ohio.  If
you;d like to spend more time looking, Google search of "072-6521" yielded
20,200 hits.  Have fun checking them all.  As for me, I'll stay with Rock
Auto.

Paul
Ohio

From aultgc at att.net  Mon Aug 20 20:31:08 2012
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:31:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch master cylinder shims?
In-Reply-To: <CAFEMhEu-2CZH3vBwd3qR5X4JpqAUY0BWvTqtMQT3r-Tg62HKPw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFEMhEu-2CZH3vBwd3qR5X4JpqAUY0BWvTqtMQT3r-Tg62HKPw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1345516268.12945.YahooMailRC@web180216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Paul,

Make darn sure the overall length of the operating rod, from the
firewall flange 
on the M/C to the centerline of the clevis pin is as long as
your current M/C.  
I can tell you a long, sad story about what can happen if
it is too short.  
Insufficient length = insufficient stroke = insufficient
movement of the clutch 
release lever = dragging synchros.  Probably cost me a
trans rebuild I didn't 
need, thanks to the incompetence of a Datsun
restoration shop which should have 
known better.  Live and learn.

Gary
________________________________
From: Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
To: Roadster Stuff <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, August 20,
2012 2:18:29 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch master cylinder shims?

  Done
with the easy part, the old cylinder is out.  One shim popped out
when I
pulled the master off the firewall, and there were two shims stuck
to the
firewall.  I know the two were on the top bolt, and looking at the
crud, I'd
guess the third one was also on the top bolt.  Is that possible;
3 on top,
none on the bottom?  Just what are the shims adjusting for?

  I got the new
master from Rock Auto at $31, including discount and
shipping to Ohio.  After
I had ordered it, I got a note off the list that
O'Rielley's sold them for
$20.  Oh well, just thought I'd apss that info on.

TIA,

Paul
Ohio
1969 1600
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From aultgc at att.net  Mon Aug 20 20:37:50 2012
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:37:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch Master search
In-Reply-To: <CAFEMhEtt7+88VzUoZqcOdH3bBOLmcpJ=mc=fOrSh87-hw1V55g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFEMhEtt7+88VzUoZqcOdH3bBOLmcpJ=mc=fOrSh87-hw1V55g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1345516670.95458.YahooMailRC@web180203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I hope you got an OEM NABCO cylinder.  Can't go wrong.
________________________________
From: Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
To: David Bentz <davidbentz at gmail.com>
Cc: Roadster Stuff
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, August 20, 2012 3:35:34 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch Master search

  Amazon was $29.28 + shipping.

 
Advanced Auto is $46.89 + $8,66 shipping.  WOW!

  Ebay has them from $25 to
$52 plus shipping.

  Auto Parts Warehouse is $38.46 + shipping.

  Sears says
it is no longer available?

  Newegg.com came up on a Google search for the
part number, but they seem
to think it is a Stanley saw?

 
Gooddealsonlineshopping.com has it for , well, it take you back to Amazon
at
$29.28?

  Nexttag.com is at $29.85

  PartsGeek.com wants $30.10

 
AutoParts.pricegrabber.com list two places to buy it from, $29.28 &
$46.89?

 
And somebody told me last week that O'Reilly Auto parts had them at $20,
their
web site doesn't recognise the part number and says they don't carry
a master
clutch cylinder for a 1969 Nissan 1600.  So, I'm happy with the
quick delivery
from Rock Auto, ordered Friday morning and delivered Monday
noon.  And I'm
content with a price of $31 including shipping to Ohio.  If
you;d like to
spend more time looking, Google search of "072-6521" yielded
20,200 hits. 
Have fun checking them all.  As for me, I'll stay with Rock
Auto.

Paul
Ohio
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From aultgc at att.net  Mon Aug 20 20:41:48 2012
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:41:48 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch master cylinder shims?
References: <CAFEMhEu-2CZH3vBwd3qR5X4JpqAUY0BWvTqtMQT3r-Tg62HKPw@mail.gmail.com>
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Paul,

Forgot to mention:  I have no clue what the shims are for.  I am confident 
Nissan had some purpose, but what that might be, I do not know.

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Kort" <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
To: "Roadster Stuff" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 2:18 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch master cylinder shims?


>  Done with the easy part, the old cylinder is out.  One shim popped out
> when I pulled the master off the firewall, and there were two shims stuck
> to the firewall.  I know the two were on the top bolt, and looking at the
> crud, I'd guess the third one was also on the top bolt.  Is that possible;
> 3 on top, none on the bottom?  Just what are the shims adjusting for?
>
>  I got the new master from Rock Auto at $31, including discount and
> shipping to Ohio.  After I had ordered it, I got a note off the list that
> O'Rielley's sold them for $20.  Oh well, just thought I'd apss that info 
> on.
>
> TIA,
>
> Paul
> Ohio
> 1969 1600
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Mon Aug 20 21:46:57 2012
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (Linda J)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:46:57 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch master cylinder shims?
In-Reply-To: <CA3C6F1D6DB441F191AD17EF309B4681@gaxp1>
References: <CAFEMhEu-2CZH3vBwd3qR5X4JpqAUY0BWvTqtMQT3r-Tg62HKPw@mail.gmail.com>
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I think shims were to modify length but with aftermarket part the rod is
threaded and adjustable. Pedal should be at the height of the brake pedal. And
usually I have found the rod is too long and a bit has to be taken off
YMMV

Linda

Sent from my iPod

On Aug 20, 2012, at 7:41 PM, "Gary and Cindy Ault" <aultgc at att.net> wrote:

> Paul,
>
> Forgot to mention:  I have no clue what the shims are for.  I am confident
Nissan had some purpose, but what that might be, I do not know.
>
> Gary
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Kort" <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
> To: "Roadster Stuff" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 2:18 PM
> Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch master cylinder shims?
>
>
>> Done with the easy part, the old cylinder is out.  One shim popped out
>> when I pulled the master off the firewall, and there were two shims stuck
>> to the firewall.  I know the two were on the top bolt, and looking at the
>> crud, I'd guess the third one was also on the top bolt.  Is that possible;
>> 3 on top, none on the bottom?  Just what are the shims adjusting for?
>>
>> I got the new master from Rock Auto at $31, including discount and
>> shipping to Ohio.  After I had ordered it, I got a note off the list that
>> O'Rielley's sold them for $20.  Oh well, just thought I'd apss that info
on.
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>> Paul
>> Ohio
>> 1969 1600
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From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 20 22:01:37 2012
From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:01:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch master cylinder shims?
In-Reply-To: <CAFEMhEu-2CZH3vBwd3qR5X4JpqAUY0BWvTqtMQT3r-Tg62HKPw@mail.gmail.com>
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I found the same strange shim positioning on my car.   3 "half" shims...just
on the top bolt.   I figured out that they adjust the angle of the cylinder so
the push rod goes in straight when depressing the pedal.  Have fun getting it
right!  You'll know soon enough, 'cause fluid will leak onto your foot if it's
not. 
Patti D.

--- On Mon, 8/20/12, Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch master cylinder shims?
To: "Roadster Stuff" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, August 20, 2012, 12:18 PM

  Done with the easy part, the old cylinder is out.  One shim popped out
when I pulled the master off the firewall, and there were two shims stuck
to the firewall.  I know the two were on the top bolt, and looking at the
crud, I'd guess the third one was also on the top bolt.  Is that possible;
3 on top, none on the bottom?  Just what are the shims adjusting for?

  I got the new master from Rock Auto at $31, including discount and
shipping to Ohio.  After I had ordered it, I got a note off the list that
O'Rielley's sold them for $20.  Oh well, just thought I'd apss that info on.

TIA,

Paul
Ohio
1969 1600
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From ndpsail at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 21 05:40:50 2012
From: ndpsail at yahoo.com (norman pitcher)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 04:40:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Rocker Panel End caps-1968 311
Message-ID: <1345549250.42933.YahooMailClassic@web110212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I need to replace the rusted rocker panel front/rear end caps. Is there a
source of end caps other than the $380+ from Australia? Would appreciate
anyone's other end cap replacement options 
Thanks 

From tputland at charter.net  Tue Aug 21 05:48:43 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 07:48:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Rocker Panel End caps-1968 311
Message-ID: <3cb9a2ec.2d68df.13949036593.Webtop.46@charter.net>

Please reply to the list on this one folks.
I have interest as well.
Thanks
tim


On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:40 AM, norman pitcher wrote:

> I need to replace the rusted rocker panel front/rear end caps. Is 
> there a
> source of end caps other than the $380+ from Australia? Would 
> appreciate
> anyone's other end cap replacement options Thanks 
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Aug 21 07:41:43 2012
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 13:41:43 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Rocker Panel End caps-1968 311
Message-ID: <1625665906-1345556502-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1562283400-@b2.c20.bise6.blackberry>

I believe two or three folks (Graeme & Spriso & ????) documented w/ pics on the 311s.org forums. 

Pete
------Original Message------
From: Tim Putland
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To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rocker Panel End caps-1968 311
Sent: Aug 21, 2012 4:48 AM

Please reply to the list on this one folks.
I have interest as well.
Thanks
tim


On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:40 AM, norman pitcher wrote:

> I need to replace the rusted rocker panel front/rear end caps. Is 
> there a
> source of end caps other than the $380+ from Australia? Would 
> appreciate
> anyone's other end cap replacement options Thanks 
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From msedlack at neo.rr.com  Tue Aug 21 08:42:09 2012
From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 10:42:09 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Rocker Panel End caps-1968 311
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Message-ID: <CBB27C6AD6FC4B61BD2BEBE70351C56F@p53ghzduo>

Halfway down this page I have pics showing how to easily make the part with 
a piece of sheet steel and a couple of weld-nuts from Ace hardware:
http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/body_prep.htm  Since you're 
asking about a patch panel, I assume you can ( or know someone who can ) 
weld.  From the ones I've seen, the rounded portion toward the front usually 
doesn't rust, just the part that was in contact with or close to the fender.

Mark Sedlack
New Franklin, OH
66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/


----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:40 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Rocker Panel End caps-1968 311


>I need to replace the rusted rocker panel front/rear end caps. Is there a
> source of end caps other than the $380+ from Australia? Would appreciate
> anyone's other end cap replacement options
> Thanks
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From rksmith46 at hotmail.com  Tue Aug 21 16:54:18 2012
From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:54:18 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] KA roadster for sale?
In-Reply-To: <CAFEMhEtiHR+RWQ0FuRLAvxarU1erp7QipuibCEU66x7DPcjg2w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFEMhEtiHR+RWQ0FuRLAvxarU1erp7QipuibCEU66x7DPcjg2w@mail.gmail.com>
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paul, buddy, say it isnt so.  are you really selling old yeller ? whats up,
have you got another project in mind ?
      bob smith, 69 srl311 (i'd never sell anna bell)

> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 14:49:47 -0400
> From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] KA roadster for sale?
>
>   So, is anybody out there interested in a '69 1600 with a KA24E & 5 speed
> in it?  Not sure if I'm ready to sell or not, but thinking about it.  Needs
> paint, but is rust free, stripped to bare metal back in '96.  KA was
> rebuilt in 2004.  It came out of a '89 240SX.  I have a hardtop, soft top,
> still in the box, and a reconditioned frame and front bow, just never got
> around to installing it.
>   The clutch master cylinder failed last Thursday and I have a new one on
> order.  It will be installed as soon as it shows up.  Front suspension was
> totally rebuilt back in 1997.  Transmission got all new bearings back in
> 2005.  And I swapped in a 3.70 ring & pinion from a 2000 for better
> cruising RPMs.  I drove it down to Road Atlanta for the Mitty several years
> ago.  That was a GREAT ride!  Photos available on request.
>
> Paul
> Ohio
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From twokeelya at gmail.com  Tue Aug 21 17:07:34 2012
From: twokeelya at gmail.com (twokeelya at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:07:34 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Selling my 67.5 SRL
Message-ID: <CALOjD_-4W+PV_3fPDwsSUdA-qoQ6Fyb6Ff78gUP1i8uub8fB_A@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings all
The recession finally caught up to us and I must part with my
Roadster.  This car had a transplanted 1600,  but definitely is a
67.5. My dream was to put a 2000 back in it, but No cash. Vin Number
SRL311-00529 Nothing mechanically wrong, No rust, No console and crack
in  windshield. Email me If you need photos. Some of you have seen it
at Solvang and Fun Run in Santa Cruz. I hate too, but will put it on
Ebay if there is no interest. Thanks
Richard
twokeelya at gmail.com

From roadster68 at shaw.ca  Tue Aug 21 19:03:42 2012
From: roadster68 at shaw.ca (Larry Dziuba)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:03:42 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch master cylinder shims?
References: <1345521697.38753.YahooMailClassic@web161302.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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Now that is what I always thought they were for.  I used them to make sure 
that the rod was lined up with the master cylinder's main bore.  Larry.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patti Dwinell" <fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com>
To: "Paul Kort" <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
Cc: "All list" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Clutch master cylinder shims?


>I found the same strange shim positioning on my car.   3 "half" 
>shims...just
> on the top bolt.   I figured out that they adjust the angle of the 
> cylinder so
> the push rod goes in straight when depressing the pedal.  Have fun getting 
> it
> right!  You'll know soon enough, 'cause fluid will leak onto your foot if 
> it's
> not.
> Patti D.
>
> --- On Mon, 8/20/12, Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch master cylinder shims?
> To: "Roadster Stuff" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Date: Monday, August 20, 2012, 12:18 PM
>
>  Done with the easy part, the old cylinder is out.  One shim popped out
> when I pulled the master off the firewall, and there were two shims stuck
> to the firewall.  I know the two were on the top bolt, and looking at the
> crud, I'd guess the third one was also on the top bolt.  Is that possible;
> 3 on top, none on the bottom?  Just what are the shims adjusting for?
>
>  I got the new master from Rock Auto at $31, including discount and
> shipping to Ohio.  After I had ordered it, I got a note off the list that
> O'Rielley's sold them for $20.  Oh well, just thought I'd apss that info 
> on.
>
> TIA,
>
> Paul
> Ohio
> 1969 1600
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From roadster68 at shaw.ca  Tue Aug 21 19:05:35 2012
From: roadster68 at shaw.ca (Larry Dziuba)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:05:35 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Rocker Panel End caps-1968 311
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Ross Mullens used to sell the ones for the front fender area.
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Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 5:40 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Rocker Panel End caps-1968 311


>I need to replace the rusted rocker panel front/rear end caps. Is there a
> source of end caps other than the $380+ from Australia? Would appreciate
> anyone's other end cap replacement options
> Thanks
> ________________________________________
>
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From graemes at internode.on.net  Tue Aug 21 19:34:05 2012
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 11:04:05 +0930
Subject: [Roadsters] Rocker Panel End caps-1968 311
In-Reply-To: <1625665906-1345556502-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1562283400-@b2.c20.bise6.blackberry>
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Message-ID: <5034370D.4030901@internode.on.net>

Hi folks,
I also couldn't see the value in the repro end caps so I made my own.
I decided to alter the dimensions slightly so that there was a 8-10mm 
gap between the front cap and the lower guard area to try and prevent 
the rot spot that was designed by the factory. I used some 20mm 
rectangular tube cut in 1/2 for the lower guard mounts: they have 
threaded holes in them to accommodate the bolts through the lower edge.
I didn't bother to reproduce the curved ends, since they are not 
normally visible I simplified them to a straight line/box type 
construction.
Anyhoo, if you want to see how I did it, have a look at my Shutterfly 
album http://nissanman.shutterfly.com/117 starting at image #451.
I am also re-producing the entire outer sill panel from scratch since I 
can't afford to sell my one remaining kidney to buy the repro 
versions:-( . See image #488 onwards.
The "A" pillar bases were also scratch built since they were no longer 
there=-O

Regards,
Graeme Suckling
http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza
Adelaide
South Australia.

On 21/08/2012 11:11 PM, ppeters914 at comcast.net wrote:
> I believe two or three folks (Graeme & Spriso & ????) documented w/ pics on the 311s.org forums.
>
> Pete
> ------Original Message------
> From: Tim Putland
> Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> To: Datsun Roadster List
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rocker Panel End caps-1968 311
> Sent: Aug 21, 2012 4:48 AM
>
> Please reply to the list on this one folks.
> I have interest as well.
> Thanks
> tim
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:40 AM, norman pitcher wrote:
>
>> I need to replace the rusted rocker panel front/rear end caps. Is
>> there a
>> source of end caps other than the $380+ from Australia? Would
>> appreciate
>> anyone's other end cap replacement options Thanks
>> ________________________________________
>>
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>>
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From RWM at RWMann.com  Tue Aug 21 19:46:03 2012
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:46:03 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] --> Re:  Rocker Panel End caps-1968 311
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	<5034370D.4030901@internode.on.net>
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**Very** nice metalwork.


On 8/21/2012 9:34 PM, Graeme Suckling wrote:
> Hi folks,
> I also couldn't see the value in the repro end caps so I made my own.
> I decided to alter the dimensions slightly so that there was a 8-10mm 
> gap between the front cap and the lower guard area to try and prevent 
> the rot spot that was designed by the factory. I used some 20mm 
> rectangular tube cut in 1/2 for the lower guard mounts: they have 
> threaded holes in them to accommodate the bolts through the lower edge.
> I didn't bother to reproduce the curved ends, since they are not 
> normally visible I simplified them to a straight line/box type 
> construction.
> Anyhoo, if you want to see how I did it, have a look at my Shutterfly 
> album http://nissanman.shutterfly.com/117 starting at image #451.
> I am also re-producing the entire outer sill panel from scratch since 
> I can't afford to sell my one remaining kidney to buy the repro 
> versions:-( . See image #488 onwards.
> The "A" pillar bases were also scratch built since they were no longer 
> there=-O
>
> Regards,
> Graeme Suckling
> http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza
> Adelaide
> South Australia.
>
> On 21/08/2012 11:11 PM, ppeters914 at comcast.net wrote:
>> I believe two or three folks (Graeme & Spriso & ????) documented w/ 
>> pics on the 311s.org forums.
>>
>> Pete
>> ------Original Message------
>> From: Tim Putland
>> Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
>> To: Datsun Roadster List
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rocker Panel End caps-1968 311
>> Sent: Aug 21, 2012 4:48 AM
>>
>> Please reply to the list on this one folks.
>> I have interest as well.
>> Thanks
>> tim
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:40 AM, norman pitcher wrote:
>>
>>> I need to replace the rusted rocker panel front/rear end caps. Is
>>> there a
>>> source of end caps other than the $380+ from Australia? Would
>>> appreciate
>>> anyone's other end cap replacement options Thanks 

From RWM at RWMann.com  Tue Aug 21 19:46:16 2012
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:46:16 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] --> Re:  Rocker Panel End caps-1968 311
In-Reply-To: <5034370D.4030901@internode.on.net>
References: <1625665906-1345556502-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1562283400-@b2.c20.bise6.blackberry>
	<5034370D.4030901@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <503439E8.2030808@RWMann.com>

**Very** nice metalwork.


On 8/21/2012 9:34 PM, Graeme Suckling wrote:
> Hi folks,
> I also couldn't see the value in the repro end caps so I made my own.
> I decided to alter the dimensions slightly so that there was a 8-10mm 
> gap between the front cap and the lower guard area to try and prevent 
> the rot spot that was designed by the factory. I used some 20mm 
> rectangular tube cut in 1/2 for the lower guard mounts: they have 
> threaded holes in them to accommodate the bolts through the lower edge.
> I didn't bother to reproduce the curved ends, since they are not 
> normally visible I simplified them to a straight line/box type 
> construction.
> Anyhoo, if you want to see how I did it, have a look at my Shutterfly 
> album http://nissanman.shutterfly.com/117 starting at image #451.
> I am also re-producing the entire outer sill panel from scratch since 
> I can't afford to sell my one remaining kidney to buy the repro 
> versions:-( . See image #488 onwards.
> The "A" pillar bases were also scratch built since they were no longer 
> there=-O
>
> Regards,
> Graeme Suckling
> http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza
> Adelaide
> South Australia.
>
> On 21/08/2012 11:11 PM, ppeters914 at comcast.net wrote:
>> I believe two or three folks (Graeme & Spriso & ????) documented w/ 
>> pics on the 311s.org forums.
>>
>> Pete
>> ------Original Message------
>> From: Tim Putland
>> Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
>> To: Datsun Roadster List
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rocker Panel End caps-1968 311
>> Sent: Aug 21, 2012 4:48 AM
>>
>> Please reply to the list on this one folks.
>> I have interest as well.
>> Thanks
>> tim
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:40 AM, norman pitcher wrote:
>>
>>> I need to replace the rusted rocker panel front/rear end caps. Is
>>> there a
>>> source of end caps other than the $380+ from Australia? Would
>>> appreciate
>>> anyone's other end cap replacement options Thanks 

From aultgc at att.net  Tue Aug 21 21:09:26 2012
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 20:09:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Rocker Panel End caps-1968 311
In-Reply-To: <094C30A2865B4EF4A3F51F206FE10DA1@useravjfzd6udp>
References: <1345549250.42933.YahooMailClassic@web110212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<094C30A2865B4EF4A3F51F206FE10DA1@useravjfzd6udp>
Message-ID: <1345604966.81501.YahooMailRC@web180214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I just contacted Ross today.  He no longer sells the rocker end pieces --
just 
makes replacement pieces as needed for restorations in his shop.  The
"Parts" 
tab on his website is inactive, so I presume he no longer sells parts
at all.

Gary

 

________________________________
From: Larry Dziuba
<roadster68 at shaw.ca>
To: norman pitcher <ndpsail at yahoo.com>;
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, August 21, 2012 8:05:46 PM
Subject:
Re: [Roadsters] Rocker Panel End caps-1968 311

Ross Mullens used to sell the
ones for the front fender area.
----- Original Message ----- From: "norman
pitcher" <ndpsail at yahoo.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent:
Tuesday, August 21, 2012 5:40 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Rocker Panel End
caps-1968 311


> I need to replace the rusted rocker panel front/rear end
caps. Is there a
> source of end caps other than the $380+ from Australia?
Would appreciate
> anyone's other end cap replacement options
> Thanks
>
________________________________________
> 
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From info at sportsimports.ca  Wed Aug 22 09:20:44 2012
From: info at sportsimports.ca (Ross Mullen / Sports Imports)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 08:20:44 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Rocker Panel End caps-1968 311
In-Reply-To: <1345604966.81501.YahooMailRC@web180214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1345549250.42933.YahooMailClassic@web110212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<094C30A2865B4EF4A3F51F206FE10DA1@useravjfzd6udp>
	<1345604966.81501.YahooMailRC@web180214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5B0EEE4C-DAAE-498E-B536-2D4DF18B6736@sportsimports.ca>

i am still in business and have never made the rocker caps as we  
repair them all the time.  We still make fender patch panels, floor  
boards, rockers, rear quarters, and many other parts with our English  
wheel and power hammer.  We are still selling many roadster parts and  
encourage you to call if you are needing anything new or used for  
your datsun  SPL or SRL.

Ross Mullen
sports imports
604-538-5615
On 21-Aug-12, at 8:09 PM, Gary and Cindy Ault wrote:

> I just contacted Ross today.  He no longer sells the rocker end  
> pieces --
> just
> makes replacement pieces as needed for restorations in his shop.  The
> "Parts"
> tab on his website is inactive, so I presume he no longer sells parts
> at all.
>
> Gary
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Larry Dziuba
> <roadster68 at shaw.ca>
> To: norman pitcher <ndpsail at yahoo.com>;
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Sent: Tue, August 21, 2012 8:05:46 PM
> Subject:
> Re: [Roadsters] Rocker Panel End caps-1968 311
>
> Ross Mullens used to sell the
> ones for the front fender area.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "norman
> pitcher" <ndpsail at yahoo.com>
> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent:
> Tuesday, August 21, 2012 5:40 AM
> Subject: [Roadsters] Rocker Panel End
> caps-1968 311
>
>
>> I need to replace the rusted rocker panel front/rear end
> caps. Is there a
>> source of end caps other than the $380+ from Australia?
> Would appreciate
>> anyone's other end cap replacement options
>> Thanks
>>
> ________________________________________
>>
>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>>
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From twokeelya at gmail.com  Wed Aug 22 09:47:50 2012
From: twokeelya at gmail.com (twokeelya at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 08:47:50 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 SRL for sale
Message-ID: <CALOjD_8gJnaeuG_T2QEG3CeU7nS_habxavXh9_yLX=_HA6yhAQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for all the responses,  I haven't forgotten everyone that
responded but so many I can't really get to them all on my schedule,
so I'll load up a photo bucket today with photos for all to see. As
far as price, I'm not really sure what they are selling for so I will
most likely be taking offers. Just a little info:

Runs, drives, stops great, I would feel comfortable driving it across country
Paint and chrome is in good shape (garage kept).
Has the heavy beige cloth top in near perfect shape, no hard top
Repro dash cap,
All gauges and lights work (except the clock).
Grant Steering Wheel
Michelin tires with good tread,
Seats are good
Needs new carpet
No Rust!

Engine:
Rebello rebuild 10 years ago,
GB EI Dizzy,
Keith Olen Carbs
High torque mini starter.
New master and Slave cylinders plus clutch line

I'm selling most all of my muscle cars too, wish I didn't have to, but
unless I win the lottery or get a job soon, I have no choice. I'll
send the link to the photo bucket later today

Richard

From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Wed Aug 22 10:01:32 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:01:32 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Rocker Panel End caps-1968 311
In-Reply-To: <5B0EEE4C-DAAE-498E-B536-2D4DF18B6736@sportsimports.ca>
References: <1345549250.42933.YahooMailClassic@web110212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<094C30A2865B4EF4A3F51F206FE10DA1@useravjfzd6udp>
	<1345604966.81501.YahooMailRC@web180214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<5B0EEE4C-DAAE-498E-B536-2D4DF18B6736@sportsimports.ca>
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEt3VL0X0xVWFXL5yh5td1hXA4XsknzSFW+cfmCjUpGQOw@mail.gmail.com>

  And he does a good job of it!

Paul
Ohio

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Ross Mullen / Sports Imports <
info at sportsimports.ca> wrote:

> i am still in business and have never made the rocker caps as we repair
> them all the time.  We still make fender patch panels, floor boards,
> rockers, rear quarters, and many other parts with our English wheel and
> power hammer.  We are still selling many roadster parts and encourage you
> to call if you are needing anything new or used for your datsun  SPL or SRL.
>
> Ross Mullen
> sports imports
> 604-538-5615
> On 21-Aug-12, at 8:09 PM, Gary and Cindy Ault wrote:
>
>  I just contacted Ross today.  He no longer sells the rocker end pieces --
>> just
>> makes replacement pieces as needed for restorations in his shop.  The
>> "Parts"
>> tab on his website is inactive, so I presume he no longer sells parts
>> at all.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>>
>> ______________________________**__
>> From: Larry Dziuba
>> <roadster68 at shaw.ca>
>> To: norman pitcher <ndpsail at yahoo.com>;
>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tue, August 21, 2012 8:05:46 PM
>> Subject:
>> Re: [Roadsters] Rocker Panel End caps-1968 311
>>
>> Ross Mullens used to sell the
>> ones for the front fender area.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "norman
>> pitcher" <ndpsail at yahoo.com>
>> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>>
>> Sent:
>> Tuesday, August 21, 2012 5:40 AM
>> Subject: [Roadsters] Rocker Panel End
>> caps-1968 311
>>
>>
>>  I need to replace the rusted rocker panel front/rear end
>>>
>> caps. Is there a
>>
>>> source of end caps other than the $380+ from Australia?
>>>
>> Would appreciate
>>
>>> anyone's other end cap replacement options
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>  ______________________________**__________
>>
>>>
>>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>>>
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Aug 22 10:53:12 2012
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 09:53:12 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Ross Mullen/Sports Imports still in business
In-Reply-To: <CAFEMhEt3VL0X0xVWFXL5yh5td1hXA4XsknzSFW+cfmCjUpGQOw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1345549250.42933.YahooMailClassic@web110212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<094C30A2865B4EF4A3F51F206FE10DA1@useravjfzd6udp>
	<1345604966.81501.YahooMailRC@web180214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<5B0EEE4C-DAAE-498E-B536-2D4DF18B6736@sportsimports.ca>
	<CAFEMhEt3VL0X0xVWFXL5yh5td1hXA4XsknzSFW+cfmCjUpGQOw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <009b01cd8086$a1a1c940$e4e55bc0$@net>

Visiting Ross's workshop and parts shop is fun. Highly recommended!

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Kort
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:02 AM
To: Ross Mullen / Sports Imports
Cc: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rocker Panel End caps-1968 311

  And he does a good job of it!

Paul
Ohio

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Ross Mullen / Sports Imports <
info at sportsimports.ca> wrote:

> i am still in business and have never made the rocker caps as we 
> repair them all the time.  We still make fender patch panels, floor 
> boards, rockers, rear quarters, and many other parts with our English 
> wheel and power hammer.  We are still selling many roadster parts and 
> encourage you to call if you are needing anything new or used for your
datsun  SPL or SRL.
>
> Ross Mullen
> sports imports
> 604-538-5615

From lousailor at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 22 18:05:26 2012
From: lousailor at yahoo.com (Louie Partida)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:05:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Grant wheel hub
Message-ID: <1345680326.94016.YahooMailNeo@web142404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Looking for the correct part number for a '67 1600.  I thought I had the right
one, but couldn't make it work. Thanks
 
Louie

From aultgc at att.net  Wed Aug 22 20:08:39 2012
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:08:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Grant wheel hub
In-Reply-To: <1345680326.94016.YahooMailNeo@web142404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1345680326.94016.YahooMailNeo@web142404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1345687719.40989.YahooMailRC@web180201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

The correct hub for a '65-'76 roadster is no longer available. But, the hub
for 
the later cars will work if you trim the shroud which covers the turn
signal 
mechanism.  The splines are the same.

The current hubs appear to be
all steel.  The early hubs I have are aluminum.  
The steel hub does work,
though, and, if the pins are placed correctly, will 
cancal the trun signals
properly.  Just installed one in my '67--1/2, using a 
spare shroud from a
correct early adapter kit.

Gary




________________________________
From:
Louie Partida <lousailor at yahoo.com>
To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net"
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, August 22, 2012 7:11:09 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Grant wheel hub

Looking for the correct part number for
a '67 1600.  I thought I had the right
one, but couldn't make it work. Thanks
Louie
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From msedlack at neo.rr.com  Thu Aug 23 07:59:24 2012
From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 09:59:24 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Grant wheel hub
References: <1345680326.94016.YahooMailNeo@web142404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<1345687719.40989.YahooMailRC@web180201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <F03DAF737EE8453AAEF79D58390BC543@p53ghzduo>

there are some pics of one installed on our '66 using a Grant adapter # 4581 
here:
http://www.mildevco.net/grant_wheel.htm

Mark Sedlack
New Franklin, OH
66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" <aultgc at att.net>
To: "Louie Partida" <lousailor at yahoo.com>; <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Grant wheel hub


> The correct hub for a '65-'76 roadster is no longer available. But, the 
> hub
> for
> the later cars will work if you trim the shroud which covers the turn
> signal
> mechanism.  The splines are the same.
>
> The current hubs appear to be
> all steel.  The early hubs I have are aluminum.
> The steel hub does work,
> though, and, if the pins are placed correctly, will
> cancal the trun signals
> properly.  Just installed one in my '67--1/2, using a
> spare shroud from a
> correct early adapter kit.
>
> Gary
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From:
> Louie Partida <lousailor at yahoo.com>
> To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net"
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, August 22, 2012 7:11:09 PM
> Subject: [Roadsters] Grant wheel hub
>
> Looking for the correct part number for
> a '67 1600.  I thought I had the right
> one, but couldn't make it work. Thanks
> Louie
> ________________________________________
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From tputland at charter.net  Thu Aug 23 08:31:13 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 10:31:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Grant wheel hub
Message-ID: <267a5d5d.2580ba.13953e4e573.Webtop.44@charter.net>

Is that scaffolding bit exposed or is there a cover for it?


On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Mark Sedlack wrote:

> there are some pics of one installed on our '66 using a Grant adapter 
> # 4581 here:
> http://www.mildevco.net/grant_wheel.htm
>
> Mark Sedlack
> New Franklin, OH
> 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
> 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" 
> <aultgc at att.net>
> To: "Louie Partida" <lousailor at yahoo.com>; 
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Grant wheel hub
>
>
>> The correct hub for a '65-'76 roadster is no longer available. But, 
>> the hub
>> for
>> the later cars will work if you trim the shroud which covers the turn
>> signal
>> mechanism.  The splines are the same.
>>
>> The current hubs appear to be
>> all steel.  The early hubs I have are aluminum.
>> The steel hub does work,
>> though, and, if the pins are placed correctly, will
>> cancal the trun signals
>> properly.  Just installed one in my '67--1/2, using a
>> spare shroud from a
>> correct early adapter kit.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From:
>> Louie Partida <lousailor at yahoo.com>
>> To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net"
>> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Wed, August 22, 2012 7:11:09 PM
>> Subject: [Roadsters] Grant wheel hub
>>
>> Looking for the correct part number for
>> a '67 1600.  I thought I had the right
>> one, but couldn't make it work. Thanks
>> Louie
>> ________________________________________
>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>>
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From msedlack at neo.rr.com  Thu Aug 23 08:32:56 2012
From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 10:32:56 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Grant wheel hub
References: <267a5d5d.2580ba.13953e4e573.Webtop.44@charter.net>
Message-ID: <F05E9B0899114B30A0924FD71ACCC43A@p53ghzduo>

There is a rubber/ TPR bellows that hides it - I took it off for the photos 
to show the pieces parts.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>
To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Grant wheel hub


> Is that scaffolding bit exposed or is there a cover for it?
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Mark Sedlack wrote:
>
>> there are some pics of one installed on our '66 using a Grant adapter # 
>> 4581 here:
>> http://www.mildevco.net/grant_wheel.htm
>>
>> Mark Sedlack
>> New Franklin, OH
>> 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
>> 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" <aultgc at att.net>
>> To: "Louie Partida" <lousailor at yahoo.com>; 
>> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Grant wheel hub
>>
>>
>>> The correct hub for a '65-'76 roadster is no longer available. But, the 
>>> hub
>>> for
>>> the later cars will work if you trim the shroud which covers the turn
>>> signal
>>> mechanism.  The splines are the same.
>>>
>>> The current hubs appear to be
>>> all steel.  The early hubs I have are aluminum.
>>> The steel hub does work,
>>> though, and, if the pins are placed correctly, will
>>> cancal the trun signals
>>> properly.  Just installed one in my '67--1/2, using a
>>> spare shroud from a
>>> correct early adapter kit.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From:
>>> Louie Partida <lousailor at yahoo.com>
>>> To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net"
>>> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>>> Sent: Wed, August 22, 2012 7:11:09 PM
>>> Subject: [Roadsters] Grant wheel hub
>>>
>>> Looking for the correct part number for
>>> a '67 1600.  I thought I had the right
>>> one, but couldn't make it work. Thanks
>>> Louie
>>> ________________________________________
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From tputland at charter.net  Thu Aug 23 08:42:02 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 10:42:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Grant wheel hub
Message-ID: <47647999.258341.13953eecc94.Webtop.44@charter.net>

Oh, ok, cool!


On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Mark Sedlack wrote:

> There is a rubber/ TPR bellows that hides it - I took it off for the 
> photos to show the pieces parts.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>
> To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" 
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 10:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Grant wheel hub
>
>
>> Is that scaffolding bit exposed or is there a cover for it?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Mark Sedlack wrote:
>>
>>> there are some pics of one installed on our '66 using a Grant 
>>> adapter # 4581 here:
>>> http://www.mildevco.net/grant_wheel.htm
>>>
>>> Mark Sedlack
>>> New Franklin, OH
>>> 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
>>> 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" 
>>> <aultgc at att.net>
>>> To: "Louie Partida" <lousailor at yahoo.com>; 
>>> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:08 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Grant wheel hub
>>>
>>>
>>>> The correct hub for a '65-'76 roadster is no longer available. But, 
>>>> the hub
>>>> for
>>>> the later cars will work if you trim the shroud which covers the 
>>>> turn
>>>> signal
>>>> mechanism.  The splines are the same.
>>>>
>>>> The current hubs appear to be
>>>> all steel.  The early hubs I have are aluminum.
>>>> The steel hub does work,
>>>> though, and, if the pins are placed correctly, will
>>>> cancal the trun signals
>>>> properly.  Just installed one in my '67--1/2, using a
>>>> spare shroud from a
>>>> correct early adapter kit.
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From:
>>>> Louie Partida <lousailor at yahoo.com>
>>>> To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net"
>>>> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>>>> Sent: Wed, August 22, 2012 7:11:09 PM
>>>> Subject: [Roadsters] Grant wheel hub
>>>>
>>>> Looking for the correct part number for
>>>> a '67 1600.  I thought I had the right
>>>> one, but couldn't make it work. Thanks
>>>> Louie
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
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From msedlack at neo.rr.com  Thu Aug 23 08:46:04 2012
From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 10:46:04 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Grant wheel hub
References: <267a5d5d.2580ba.13953e4e573.Webtop.44@charter.net>
Message-ID: <ADA26192B8D649B2B809CB8B612747F2@p53ghzduo>

there are a couple of pics halfway down this page showing what it looks like 
with the TRP "boot" in place.
http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/Alive.htm

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>
To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Grant wheel hub


> Is that scaffolding bit exposed or is there a cover for it?
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Mark Sedlack wrote:
>
>> there are some pics of one installed on our '66 using a Grant adapter # 
>> 4581 here:
>> http://www.mildevco.net/grant_wheel.htm
>>
>> Mark Sedlack
>> New Franklin, OH
>> 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
>> 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" <aultgc at att.net>
>> To: "Louie Partida" <lousailor at yahoo.com>; 
>> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Grant wheel hub
>>
>>
>>> The correct hub for a '65-'76 roadster is no longer available. But, the 
>>> hub
>>> for
>>> the later cars will work if you trim the shroud which covers the turn
>>> signal
>>> mechanism.  The splines are the same.
>>>
>>> The current hubs appear to be
>>> all steel.  The early hubs I have are aluminum.
>>> The steel hub does work,
>>> though, and, if the pins are placed correctly, will
>>> cancal the trun signals
>>> properly.  Just installed one in my '67--1/2, using a
>>> spare shroud from a
>>> correct early adapter kit.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From:
>>> Louie Partida <lousailor at yahoo.com>
>>> To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net"
>>> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>>> Sent: Wed, August 22, 2012 7:11:09 PM
>>> Subject: [Roadsters] Grant wheel hub
>>>
>>> Looking for the correct part number for
>>> a '67 1600.  I thought I had the right
>>> one, but couldn't make it work. Thanks
>>> Louie
>>> ________________________________________
>>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
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From aultgc at att.net  Thu Aug 23 20:09:06 2012
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 21:09:06 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Grant wheel hub
References: <1345724157.9851.BPMail_high_noncarrier@web142403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0CD0E3BE8C534E04BD307024F3CCFC86@gaxp1>

Louie,

I had the same problem initially.  I solved it by loosening the bolts which 
hold the steering u-joint to the steering column at the steering box,.  I 
then pulled the steering column out as far as I could, and that established 
sufficient clearance.  Note the the steering column is notched for the 
bolts, so the U-joint cannot slip off the column unless you remove the bolts 
completely.  Be careful that you don't pull it out so far that the copper 
face no longer makes contact with the spring-loaded pin in the turn signal 
assembly.

Let me know whether that works.

Gary
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Louie Partida" <lousailor at yahoo.com>
To: <aultgc at att.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Grant wheel hub




Gary,
     Thanks. We did try to trim the metal shroud, but it seems like the 
copper face of the adapter is too close to the turn signal mechanism and 
pressure on the wheel causes contact setting off the horn.

Louie


------------------------------
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 10:08 PM EDT Gary and Cindy Ault wrote:

>The correct hub for a '65-'76 roadster is no longer available. But, the hub 
>for
>the later cars will work if you trim the shroud which covers the turn 
>signal
>mechanism. The splines are the same.
>
>The current hubs appear to be all steel. The early hubs I have are 
>aluminum.
>The steel hub does work, though, and, if the pins are placed correctly, 
>will
>cancal the trun signals properly. Just installed one in my '67--1/2, using 
>a
>spare shroud from a correct early adapter kit.
>
>Gary
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Louie Partida <lousailor at yahoo.com>
>To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>Sent: Wed, August 22, 2012 7:11:09 PM
>Subject: [Roadsters] Grant wheel hub
>
>Looking for the correct part number for a '67 1600. I thought I had the 
>right
>one, but couldn't make it work. Thanks
>
>Louie
>________________________________________
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From aultgc at att.net  Thu Aug 23 20:13:40 2012
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 21:13:40 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Grant wheel hub
References: <267a5d5d.2580ba.13953e4e573.Webtop.44@charter.net>
Message-ID: <B3D3045A222241078085493D6A835B7D@gaxp1>

Tim,

There is a rubber shround which goes over it, but, note that the adapter 
shown places the wheel ~2 inches closer to the driver.  I had one in mine 
until I dumped it.  I'll sell the entire assembly -- wheel, adapter, shroud 
and all -- if anyone is interested.

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>
To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Grant wheel hub


> Is that scaffolding bit exposed or is there a cover for it?
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Mark Sedlack wrote:
>
>> there are some pics of one installed on our '66 using a Grant adapter # 
>> 4581 here:
>> http://www.mildevco.net/grant_wheel.htm
>>
>> Mark Sedlack
>> New Franklin, OH
>> 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
>> 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" <aultgc at att.net>
>> To: "Louie Partida" <lousailor at yahoo.com>; 
>> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Grant wheel hub
>>
>>
>>> The correct hub for a '65-'76 roadster is no longer available. But, the 
>>> hub
>>> for
>>> the later cars will work if you trim the shroud which covers the turn
>>> signal
>>> mechanism.  The splines are the same.
>>>
>>> The current hubs appear to be
>>> all steel.  The early hubs I have are aluminum.
>>> The steel hub does work,
>>> though, and, if the pins are placed correctly, will
>>> cancal the trun signals
>>> properly.  Just installed one in my '67--1/2, using a
>>> spare shroud from a
>>> correct early adapter kit.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From:
>>> Louie Partida <lousailor at yahoo.com>
>>> To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net"
>>> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>>> Sent: Wed, August 22, 2012 7:11:09 PM
>>> Subject: [Roadsters] Grant wheel hub
>>>
>>> Looking for the correct part number for
>>> a '67 1600.  I thought I had the right
>>> one, but couldn't make it work. Thanks
>>> Louie
>>> ________________________________________
>>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>>>
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From alvingogi at gmail.com  Thu Aug 23 21:41:30 2012
From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 20:41:30 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] East Bay Fun Run This Sunday 8/26
Message-ID: <CALmuZ6BgYroBzzVTdoaL=HRnLnL4Lw2bWzi-MKAA4YBiJHTHmQ@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry for the late notice but a bunch of us are headed to San Ramon to do a
Mt. Diablo Fun Run. Would be nice to see more roadsters, so please join us!
 Details below

When:  Sunday 8/26, 10am at location below:
Where: Starbuck's, 2005 Crow Canyon Place, San Ramon, in the Magnolia
Square Shopping Center, just East of I-680 off the Crow Canyon Rd Exit.
(This is smallish strip mall with a Max's Diner, Baskin Robbins, Sees
Candy, etc.)



>From Starbucks we can go to my garage 2 minutes away, then do some "test
driving" around Crow Canyon/Bollinger Canyon for 30 minutes or so, then off
to Mt. Diablo, an hour drive to top via South Gate road, photo ops up top,
back down Mt. Diablo via North Gate Rd to Walnut Creek, lunch at The
Counter (burgers), done there by 1:30, last 25 minute leg to The BlackHawk
Automotive Museum for the 2:00 pm Docent-led tour, if we want to be part of
that. Either way, the museum is awesome.

From chalsted at comcast.net  Sat Aug 25 07:10:22 2012
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 13:10:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Watkins Glen
Message-ID: <871567291.690102.1345900222663.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

last year Elaine had some mugs and wine glasses made up and some folks expressed that they were interested in having more made... if anyone would like us to do that, let us know and we can have them etched and bring them to the Glen. we can also still do more of last year's T-shirts if anyone's interested 
Craig 

From hrhaslett at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 25 18:21:13 2012
From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett)
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 17:21:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster sheetmetal, 67 1600
In-Reply-To: <502C7008.9080909@datsun2000.com>
References: <502C7008.9080909@datsun2000.com>
Message-ID: <1345940473.37755.YahooMailNeo@web162006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Hello All,
I have a straight, rust free left front fender with headlight and
parking light assemblies installed.  Anyone interested?
Also have a pair of
doors.  Doors need bodywork but have glass, mechanisms, trim, handles, wing
frame, hinges.  Drivers door is rusted out a bit around window crank.  I can
send pictures if interested.  Not seperating.  I will put on greyhound bus for
delivery or you can pick up here in Orange County, CA.
Thanks,
Roy
________________________________
 From: Tom Hendricksen <tom at datsun2000.com>
To: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net; Roadster E-Mail List
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
  
Every time I have used the
WIX catalog the filter specified had the wrong threads for the roadster
engine.  That is why I use the WIX 51512 filter.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Las
Vegas


On 8/14/2012 2:47:56 PM, Gary McCormick (gkmcc at sbcglobal.net) wrote:
>
The Wix website has a great part# lookup feature. Just remember to select
>
"Nissan" as the make (they don't list Datsun anyway...).
>
> Gary McCormick
>
San Jose, CA
>
> --- On Tue, 8/14/12, Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
wrote:
>
> From: Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re:
[Roadsters] oil, fuel, air filters
> To: "Paul Kort"
<paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
> Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date:
Tuesday, August 14, 2012, 2:40 PM
>
> If you go in with the part number, they
should be able to figure it out.
>
>
>
> Or you can order it from Amazon
(seriously).
>
>
> Gordon Glasgow
> Renton, WA
>
http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul
Kort" <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
> To: "Gordon Maness"
<gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com>
> Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Sent:
Tuesday, August 14, 2012 2:16:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil, fuel, air
filters
>
> B B Hey, we got water out here! B Come out of a well. B Thanks
Tim! B Next
> visit, you can sleep in the shed.
>
> B B We have a NAPA and
Auto Zone in town. B Have to drive out of the county
> to
> find any thing
else. B And if you don't speak GM trucks or tractors, you are
> not welcomed
at NAPA! B Maybe I can sneak in and find the right oil filter?
>
> Paul
> Lost
in Ohio
>
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Gordon Maness
>
<gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
> > I use what is available.I've use the
Dodge filter and Ford too.Just change
> > the
> > filter and oil every 3k
miles. g with a fleet.
> > B > Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:17:51 -0400
> > >
From: tputland at charter.net
> > > To: mantolik at oh.rr.com
> > > CC:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> > > Subject: Re:
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From gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 25 19:35:50 2012
From: gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com (Gordon Maness)
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 20:35:50 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch Master
In-Reply-To: <1345940473.37755.YahooMailNeo@web162006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <502C7008.9080909@datsun2000.com>,
	<1345940473.37755.YahooMailNeo@web162006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SNT137-W5235B4F3EE5BF93A93ADFEB2A30@phx.gbl>

My son bought a clutch master from O'Reilly Auto last week.$20.00. I hope this
is the link to the master.Just change the actuation rod and good to go. g with
fleet
 http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/search.oap?keyword=cm1358

From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Sat Aug 25 19:49:24 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 21:49:24 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch Master
In-Reply-To: <SNT137-W5235B4F3EE5BF93A93ADFEB2A30@phx.gbl>
References: <502C7008.9080909@datsun2000.com>
	<1345940473.37755.YahooMailNeo@web162006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<SNT137-W5235B4F3EE5BF93A93ADFEB2A30@phx.gbl>
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  Not sure that is the correct cylinder.  The site shows it is compatible
with a 510.  I thought the 510 cylinder had the wrong threads for the
hydraulic connection.  Useable with an adapter, not not as delivered?  Or
was I dreaming when I read that?

  Old age sucks, but considering the available alternative, i'll take it!

Paul
Ohio

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<gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com>wrote:

> My son bought a clutch master from O'Reilly Auto last week.$20.00. I hope
> this
> is the link to the master.Just change the actuation rod and good to go. g
> with
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From nolan at mortarsprayer.com  Sat Aug 25 20:39:21 2012
From: nolan at mortarsprayer.com (Nolan)
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 19:39:21 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake cylinder cross reference?
Message-ID: <005901cd8334$0057e230$0107a690$@com>

Hello Friends,

Somewhere on the net I found a mention that the rear brake cylinders crossed
over to something else. Was it a B210? Can anyone tell me the correct one or
the part numbers?

 

Thank you,

Nolan

From nolan at mortarsprayer.com  Sat Aug 25 21:51:12 2012
From: nolan at mortarsprayer.com (Nolan)
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 20:51:12 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake cylinder cross reference?
In-Reply-To: <CAFEMhEs+-p=j-5_hTrUO37qMam6TQUCVRS5Bs=aJSmg-8pB7EA@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAFEMhEs+-p=j-5_hTrUO37qMam6TQUCVRS5Bs=aJSmg-8pB7EA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <006101cd833e$0b0dd7c0$21298740$@com>

Thank you Paul,

Eventually we will upgrade to 4 wheel disks but at the moment we are pushing
for the first shakedown cruise.

Right now we need to get it safe and working. In the 20+ years it has sat
the brake and clutch fluids have drained out. 

 

It looks like the best choice with the 14" wheels is to replace the rear
cylinders and put them back together.

 

On the front brakes are the Volvo calipers the good solution with 14"
wheels?

 

Nolie is out in the shop right now. The 14 year old has a real sparkle in
his eye when he is working on the car. So far he has rebuilt all of the AN
fuel lines and is now looking towards the brakes.

 

Best regards,

Nolan

 

 

 

From: Paul Kort [mailto:paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 8:11 PM
To: Nolan
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rear brake cylinder cross reference?

 

  Early roadsters up through '67 took Nissan Part #44100-14600, a NABCO
13/16".  The late model roadsters, '68 - '70 took Nissan Part #44100-2550, a
NABCO 3/4".  Last time I checked, both were still available from NADA and
anybody else that sells NABCO cylinders.  There is a good chance that the
B210 took the very same ones.  NABCO was used in hundreds of cars over the
years.

Paul
Ohio

On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Nolan <nolan at mortarsprayer.com> wrote:

Hello Friends,

Somewhere on the net I found a mention that the rear brake cylinders crossed
over to something else. Was it a B210? Can anyone tell me the correct one or
the part numbers?



Thank you,

Nolan
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From nolan at mortarsprayer.com  Sun Aug 26 09:07:35 2012
From: nolan at mortarsprayer.com (Nolan)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 08:07:35 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Contact for Al James or his roadster? Did the paint dry?
Message-ID: <001e01cd839c$877faa00$967efe00$@com>

Hello Friends,

I am wondering how Al James is doing. If anyone has his contact information
please email it to me on the side.

 

Last night we were chuckling about the yellow paint job on Al's roadster.
We had given it a fresh coat right before heading out to the yearly runoffs
in Georgia. The paint job was one of those last minute all nighters before
heading out. We didn't have the correct hardener for the paint. It was still
soft on race day.

 

We were wondering if it ever did harden.  J Do you know who has Al's
roadster now? Is it in the Portland area?

 

Best regards,

Nolan

From chalsted at comcast.net  Sun Aug 26 14:34:17 2012
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 20:34:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] datsun roadsters and Lotus Elite for sale
Message-ID: <673832193.717552.1346013257265.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

local fellow is going to loosen up on his unrestored Lotus Elite to free up some cash, don't know how much but this is the first moment he's ever said he'd be willing to sell it- contact me if interested, I'll put you in touch with him. as always, I have project roadsters for sale.. #3 1500, 67.5 2000's, prototype 1500...and a host of others 
Craig 

From nolan at mortarsprayer.com  Sun Aug 26 18:51:40 2012
From: nolan at mortarsprayer.com (Nolan)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 17:51:40 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake cylinder cross reference?
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	<CAFEMhEs+-p=j-5_hTrUO37qMam6TQUCVRS5Bs=aJSmg-8pB7EA@mail.gmail.com>
	<006101cd833e$0b0dd7c0$21298740$@com>
	<CAFEMhEttd58jOgbq-kxj__CwdSKLa3fWxLkxQWec9a4B_oJKZw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003401cd83ee$1f9e8530$5edb8f90$@com>

Hello Paul,

This one stopped well 25 years ago when it was parked.  J



There is one long straight that had a tight right hand turn at the end. The
sharp turn warning sign was the late breaking point. Putting the clamps on
to scrub off 100 mph would shoot sparks out both sides.

 There was a volunteer fire station right by the corner warning sign. I
remember seeing the guys washing their truck out of the corner of my eye one
day as I passed. They heard the explosion and saw the ball of flame out the
side exhaust when I took my foot off the gas and went for the brakes. They
dropped their buckets and wash cloths and started running for their turn out
gear.

I doubt the car will ever be driven like that again. For now I will be happy
to get it all back in working order.



We made our weekly trip to my grandparents today. It had been a very long
time since I poked around in the shed that my grandfather built to store my
toys as I moved from teenager to adult. I had not remembered that 90% of
what was in there were roadster parts. I found a snug top, middle close
ratio 5 speed, 4.38 read end, axels and brake parts.



There are several more boxes to bring home. I also found one rear caliper
from an 87ish 200SX. I suspect that I will find the other one as I poke
around.



It looks like the Volvo calipers up front are the way to go instead of
freshening up the existing calipers. In the back we will change out the >
NABCO cylinders for fresh ones.



I am open for better suggestions if anyone has any.



Best regards,

Nolan



From: Paul Kort [mailto:paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:46 PM
To: Nolan
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rear brake cylinder cross reference?



  Glad to have helped.  but when it comes to brake conversions, I'm no help
at all, except to say that my 1969 1600 with a KA24E and 5 speed under the
hood, stops just fine on stock brakes.  The only reason I would every swap
out to Volvo or Toyota caliper, would be if mine were totally shot.  And
then I'd only convert because it is cheaper than buying new stock calipers.

Paul

From nolan at mortarsprayer.com  Sun Aug 26 19:29:24 2012
From: nolan at mortarsprayer.com (Nolan)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 18:29:24 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake cylinder cross reference?
In-Reply-To: <CAFEMhEt9BUicgu95fk53BnhcXSG=93mDs58z43+fWPuPzCCG6w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <005901cd8334$0057e230$0107a690$@com>
	<CAFEMhEs+-p=j-5_hTrUO37qMam6TQUCVRS5Bs=aJSmg-8pB7EA@mail.gmail.com>
	<006101cd833e$0b0dd7c0$21298740$@com>
	<CAFEMhEttd58jOgbq-kxj__CwdSKLa3fWxLkxQWec9a4B_oJKZw@mail.gmail.com>
	<003401cd83ee$1f9e8530$5edb8f90$@com>
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Hello Paul,

I was fortunate that Vern Colvin shared several trinkets along the way. I
remember how he used to grin as he would open the big cabinet at the back of
his shop and pull out a set of super rods or a light weight aluminum
bracket. With the car he sold me a few spares. I better keep it all
together.

 

All my best,

Nolan 

 

From: Paul Kort [mailto:paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:00 PM
To: Nolan
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rear brake cylinder cross reference?

 

  You are about to get lots of questions about the mid close ratio 5 speed,
so I'll start.  Interested in selling it?  How much?

Paul
Ohio

From nolan at mortarsprayer.com  Sun Aug 26 19:43:31 2012
From: nolan at mortarsprayer.com (Nolan)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 18:43:31 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Any ideas for shortening the clutch master? 68 SRL311
Message-ID: <004f01cd83f5$5e62eca0$1b28c5e0$@com>

Hello Friends,

I am still looking around for the factory airbox for the 50 mm Solexes. If I
can't find it I will need to build something.

The clutch slave takes up valuable real-estate by the back velocity stack.

 

Can anyone show me examples of a short clutch master or other solutions to
get more space back there?

 

We had moved the expansion tank to the passenger side and opened up the core
support in front of the carbs to build a ram air box. One of the trapezoid
filters up there could be a solution with a sealed air box. 

 

Any examples would be appreciated.

 

All my best,

Nolan

From alvingogi at gmail.com  Sun Aug 26 20:46:00 2012
From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 19:46:00 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Fun Run Pictures
Message-ID: <CALmuZ6CoEZHda8=M8P=rudu9RR3inpaYvhs9gY3Yu73K=pS43Q@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.zcarblog.com/2012/08/26/even ...
res-2.html<http://www.zcarblog.com/2012/08/26/events/datsun-roadster-fun-run-82612-pictures-2.html>

From nolan at mortarsprayer.com  Sun Aug 26 21:19:47 2012
From: nolan at mortarsprayer.com (Nolan)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 20:19:47 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Any ideas for shortening the clutch master? 68
 SRL311
In-Reply-To: <1346033450.4728.YahooMailNeo@web140805.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <004f01cd83f5$5e62eca0$1b28c5e0$@com>
	<1346033450.4728.YahooMailNeo@web140805.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <009401cd8402$d24487c0$76cd9740$@com>

Hello Rich,

Were you using Solex/Mikunis? Were the carbs equalized in pressure to the
air box?

Did you start to lean out as the pressure increased?

 

Thank you,

Nolan 

 

From: Richard Shepard [mailto:sales at rslaserkits.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 7:11 PM
To: Nolan
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Any ideas for shortening the clutch master? 68
SRL311

 

You don't want a sealed air box you need a hole at the back for air to get
out. Has been tried  and does not work. All my Coswrth engine air boxes had
a hole at the bck or bottom and this is on a Formula car. 

rich

 

From: Nolan <nolan at mortarsprayer.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net 
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:43 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Any ideas for shortening the clutch master? 68 SRL311
 


We had moved the expansion tank to the passenger side and opened up the core
support in front of the carbs to build a ram air box. One of the trapezoid
filters up there could be a solution with a sealed air box. 



Any examples would be appreciated.



All my best,

Nolan

From nolan at mortarsprayer.com  Sun Aug 26 21:21:25 2012
From: nolan at mortarsprayer.com (Nolan)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 20:21:25 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Any ideas for shortening the clutch master? 68
 SRL311
In-Reply-To: <SNT137-W27716A20B610E7FE8D1832B2A20@phx.gbl>
References: <004f01cd83f5$5e62eca0$1b28c5e0$@com>
	<SNT137-W27716A20B610E7FE8D1832B2A20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <009901cd8403$0be7a070$23b6e150$@com>

Thank you so much Gordon.

I figured someone on the list had already tacked this. Do you have Gary's
email?

 

Best regards,

Nolan

 

From: Gordon Maness [mailto:gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 7:03 PM
To: nolan at mortarsprayer.com
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Any ideas for shortening the clutch master? 68
SRL311

 

Get in touch with Gary Boone in Wyoming.
I think he has already 'been there done that'.
 
g
 

> From: nolan at mortarsprayer.com
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 18:43:31 -0700
> Subject: [Roadsters] Any ideas for shortening the clutch master? 68 SRL311
> 
> Hello Friends,
> 
> I am still looking around for the factory airbox for the 50 mm Solexes. If
I
> can't find it I will need to build something.
> 
> The clutch slave takes up valuable real-estate by the back velocity stack.
> 
> 
> 
> Can anyone show me examples of a short clutch master or other solutions to
> get more space back there?
> 
> 
> 
> We had moved the expansion tank to the passenger side and opened up the
core
> support in front of the carbs to build a ram air box. One of the trapezoid
> filters up there could be a solution with a sealed air box. 
> 
> 
> 
> Any examples would be appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
> All my best,
> 
> Nolan
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From tputland at charter.net  Mon Aug 27 05:44:36 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 07:44:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] replying to posts
Message-ID: <520f9623.31c840.13967e5ca7d.Webtop.47@charter.net>

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE reply to the whole list.

I am curious to read ALL REPLIES as part of my learning process. And I 
am sure there are others out there who have the same questions needing 
answers and would also be interested in reading other peoples' thoughts.

thank you
tim

From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Mon Aug 27 08:43:40 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 10:43:40 -0400
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(look at the bottom of the message)...you could click the same and try to
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 10:56:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] confirm  c8a33a52f5cd5f6c377767eb7a696530b0a9495c
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From: davidbentz at gmail.com (David Bentz)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:35:31 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] confirm  c8a33a52f5cd5f6c377767eb7a696530b0a9495c
In-Reply-To: <3d9b42e3.322123.1396895eb20.Webtop.45@charter.net>
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if it looks like it, and smells like it, it's probably what you think it
is... ;) If I'm EVER in doubt, I will forward it to the person and ask 'did
you send this to me? if not then your account has been compromised.' and
give them password ideas/patterns/options to follow to help secure their
account better, but still help them remember the password.

Don't forget your caps, numbers, & special character keys!!

E.g. Instead of DatsunRoadster try D at tsunR0@dster ;) For extra spice add
the year of your car. That should test out as a pretty strong password.

David




On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:

> When in doubt....DELETE IT!
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Paul Kort wrote:
>
>  Is this real or phishing?
>>
>> Paul
>> Ohio
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From tputland at charter.net  Mon Aug 27 10:15:55 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 12:15:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] replying to posts
Message-ID: <2d9437ad.3234a4.13968de2fc5.Webtop.45@charter.net>

  This is out of line.....

On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Todd Green wrote:

  What do you want a reply to? You sound lonely & just want to type to 
someone.


From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 6:44 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] replying to posts

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE reply to the whole list.

I am curious to read ALL REPLIES as part of my learning process. And I
am sure there are others out there who have the same questions needing
answers and would also be interested in reading other peoples' thoughts.

thank you
tim
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From tputland at charter.net  Mon Aug 27 19:14:26 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:14:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] replying to posts
Message-ID: <e94cc85.32af13.1396acb38e1.Webtop.45@charter.net>

"I am curious to read ALL REPLIES as part of my learning process..."

this is pretty straight forward.....

On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Todd Green wrote:

  I just want to know what you want a reply to? There is no question 
asked on this email.


From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] replying to posts

   This is out of line.....

On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Todd Green wrote:

   What do you want a reply to? You sound lonely & just want to type to
someone.

From: Tim < tputland at charter.net 
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Subject: [Roadsters] replying to posts

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE reply to the whole list.

I am curious to read ALL REPLIES as part of my learning process. And I
am sure there are others out there who have the same questions needing
answers and would also be interested in reading other peoples' thoughts.

thank  you
tim
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From graemes at internode.on.net  Mon Aug 27 19:32:41 2012
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 11:02:41 +0930
Subject: [Roadsters] replying to posts
In-Reply-To: <e94cc85.32af13.1396acb38e1.Webtop.45@charter.net>
References: <e94cc85.32af13.1396acb38e1.Webtop.45@charter.net>
Message-ID: <503C1FB9.6040106@internode.on.net>

I agree Tim.
I try to drop a copy to the List even when I have attached images to the 
originator.
I know they get stripped off but If anyone shows an interest in them I 
send them a direct email as well.
To be honest I think ALL of us are still learning, so sharing 
information is very desirable:-)

Regards,
Graeme Suckling
http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza
Adelaide
South Australia.

On 28/08/2012 10:44 AM, Tim wrote:
> "I am curious to read ALL REPLIES as part of my learning process..."
>
> this is pretty straight forward.....
>
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Todd Green wrote:
>
>    I just want to know what you want a reply to? There is no question
> asked on this email.
>
>
> From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
> To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 11:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] replying to posts
>
>     This is out of line.....
>
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Todd Green wrote:
>
>     What do you want a reply to? You sound lonely & just want to type to
> someone.
>
> From: Tim < tputland at charter.net
> <javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('tputland at charter.net')> >
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> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 6:44 AM
> Subject: [Roadsters] replying to posts
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> PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE reply to the whole list.
>
> I am curious to read ALL REPLIES as part of my learning process. And I
> am sure there are others out there who have the same questions needing
> answers and would also be interested in reading other peoples' thoughts.
>
> thank  you
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From nolan at mortarsprayer.com  Mon Aug 27 22:06:36 2012
From: nolan at mortarsprayer.com (Nolan)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:06:36 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] SRL311 brake progress
Message-ID: <011501cd84d2$8562b690$902823b0$@com>

Hello friends,

Thank you for all the help on the list and in the emails on the side. 

Michael Spreadbury http://spriso.com  pointed me to an easy conversion that
will fit my 14" wheels. We will do this until we get 15" wheels for the
spriso conversion. 

The kit we will use with 14" wheels is from Mike at
http://www.bluehandsinc.com/ . I'm sure many of you know him but I am just
getting back up to speed so I hope this is helpful. Mike pointed me to a set
of cross drilled, vented and slotted disks that will be perfect for a little
bling. I don't think the car will ever be driven as aggressively as it was
the last time around but this will still be fun. 

 

I am still stuck for what to do on the rear brakes. We found that Wagner
does have a replacement rubber set in their catalog but none were available
locally. Now that we have cleaned everything up, the rear cylinders look to
be in good shape and the rubber seals are fine. I could use two fresh rubber
dust boots that go outside of the dust plate. Until we find a simple read
disk upgrade we will probably put this back together.

 

Does anyone offer a simple bracket for a 200 SX rear disk & caliper swap?

 

Best regards,

Nolan

From alvingogi at gmail.com  Mon Aug 27 22:38:33 2012
From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:38:33 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] SRL-00248 has a new home!
Message-ID: <CALmuZ6B_2Sn8O0UyDOU-Siqtw3A3+GesqQLmJM+YpoDRdsN+zw@mail.gmail.com>

After years of searching for the right roadster Rob at ZCG found the car of
his dreams...

Read about it here:
http://www.zcarblog.com/2012/08/27/featured-cars-and-projects/the-zcg-datsun-2000-roadster.html

Huge thanks Raul for keeping this roadster in the family and making a
Datsun Nut's dreams come true!

From roadstrdude at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 28 00:36:38 2012
From: roadstrdude at yahoo.com (Raul Libunao)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 23:36:38 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] SRL-00248 has a new home!
Message-ID: <6d3u5d2kn7r9pfd7nvren1sp.1346135798685@email.android.com>

Nicely done Alvin.

Congrats Rob ..

alvin gogineni <alvingogi at gmail.com> wrote:

>After years of searching for the right roadster Rob at ZCG found the car of
>his dreams...
>
>Read about it here:
>http://www.zcarblog.com/2012/08/27/featured-cars-and-projects/the-zcg-datsun-2000-roadster.html
>
>Huge thanks Raul for keeping this roadster in the family and making a
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From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Tue Aug 28 09:21:02 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 11:21:02 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] '69 side lights
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEsQ0rLLZUO_0WJ42sqqhNEjKsKWcT+52+1rFyK4zBM2Ug@mail.gmail.com>

  Having owned my '69 since 1996, I figured it was time to make the side
lights work again.  I have all the fixtures, but none have working light
sockets in them.  All corroded and some are broken off inside.  One still
has a base of a light bulb in it, and it refuses to budge!

  So, has anybody drilled out the old sockets and used new ones?  What
sockets did you use?

TIA,
Paul
Ohio

From stephen.holst at randrglobal.com  Tue Aug 28 11:13:27 2012
From: stephen.holst at randrglobal.com (Stephen Holst)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:13:27 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] '69 side lights
In-Reply-To: <CAFEMhEsQ0rLLZUO_0WJ42sqqhNEjKsKWcT+52+1rFyK4zBM2Ug@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CC627477.3A38%stephen.holst@randrglobal.com>

Of course I state the obvious>  For a price (Actually less than if you were
dealing with a new car) you can still obtain new, "old Stock", Side marker
lights
Steve


On 8/28/12 11:21 AM, "Paul Kort" <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com> wrote:

>   Having owned my '69 since 1996, I figured it was time to make the side
> lights work again.  I have all the fixtures, but none have working light
> sockets in them.  All corroded and some are broken off inside.  One still
> has a base of a light bulb in it, and it refuses to budge!
> 
>   So, has anybody drilled out the old sockets and used new ones?  What
> sockets did you use?
> 
> TIA,
> Paul
> Ohio
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From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com  Tue Aug 28 11:21:16 2012
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:21:16 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] '69 side lights
In-Reply-To: <CC627477.3A38%stephen.holst@randrglobal.com>
References: <CAFEMhEsQ0rLLZUO_0WJ42sqqhNEjKsKWcT+52+1rFyK4zBM2Ug@mail.gmail.com>
	<CC627477.3A38%stephen.holst@randrglobal.com>
Message-ID: <CAFEMhEs0H5fNtvH6MWHXHxysZnKw-+eUQ9dj8_B-U3P6wGiOgA@mail.gmail.com>

  Sounds like a great idea, but if Dann at Rallye doesn't have them, it's a
pretty good guess nobody has NOS side lights for a '69.  Besides, mine look
great on the outside, just need new a new light socket so why pay $131
(Price for the right side rear '69 NOS light at Rallye) when I can rebuild
mine for less than a tenth that much?
  And I did check with Ross, Mike, and Les; none have new ones.

Paul
Ohio

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Stephen Holst <
stephen.holst at randrglobal.com> wrote:

> Of course I state the obvious>  For a price (Actually less than if you were
> dealing with a new car) you can still obtain new, "old Stock", Side marker
> lights
> Steve
>
>
> On 8/28/12 11:21 AM, "Paul Kort" <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >   Having owned my '69 since 1996, I figured it was time to make the side
> > lights work again.  I have all the fixtures, but none have working light
> > sockets in them.  All corroded and some are broken off inside.  One still
> > has a base of a light bulb in it, and it refuses to budge!
> >
> >   So, has anybody drilled out the old sockets and used new ones?  What
> > sockets did you use?
> >
> > TIA,
> > Paul
> > Ohio
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From poontang188 at hotmail.com  Tue Aug 28 11:28:38 2012
From: poontang188 at hotmail.com (Scott Sheeler)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:28:38 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] '69 side lights
In-Reply-To: <CAFEMhEsQ0rLLZUO_0WJ42sqqhNEjKsKWcT+52+1rFyK4zBM2Ug@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFEMhEsQ0rLLZUO_0WJ42sqqhNEjKsKWcT+52+1rFyK4zBM2Ug@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY146-W532D53E6B98A57D3C73B5FCA10@phx.gbl>

For rears you can cheat and use the rears from the old PL 510's - I think
pre-1972. The rubber is tapered differently but the lens and socket are the
same.  They may be easier to find than non-existent roadster parts.

Scott Sheeler
http://thedatsunroadsterbook.com/



> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 11:21:02 -0400
> From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] '69 side lights
>
> Having owned my '69 since 1996, I figured it was time to make the side
> lights work again. I have all the fixtures, but none have working light
> sockets in them. All corroded and some are broken off inside. One still
> has a base of a light bulb in it, and it refuses to budge!
>
> So, has anybody drilled out the old sockets and used new ones? What
> sockets did you use?
>
> TIA,
> Paul
> Ohio
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>
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From mhatch at ics.com  Tue Aug 28 11:41:05 2012
From: mhatch at ics.com (Mark Hatch)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:41:05 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] '69 side lights
Message-ID: <00a36c80bdadade5cc6ea74ff480bb56@mail.gmail.com>

Paul,



Actually it is pretty easy to just replace the light socket with a new one
that you can get at any auto store. The sockets are press fit.  See the
posting at:



http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16406



Mark







Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 11:21:02 -0400

From: Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>

To: Roadster Stuff <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>

Subject: [Roadsters] '69 side lights

Message-ID:

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CAFEMhEsQ0rLLZUO_0WJ42sqqhNEjKsKWcT+52+1rFyK4zBM2Ug at mail.gmail.com>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"



  Having owned my '69 since 1996, I figured it was time to make the side

lights work again.  I have all the fixtures, but none have working light

sockets in them.  All corroded and some are broken off inside.  One still

has a base of a light bulb in it, and it refuses to budge!



  So, has anybody drilled out the old sockets and used new ones?  What

sockets did you use?



TIA,

Paul

Ohio

From stephen.holst at randrglobal.com  Tue Aug 28 12:15:11 2012
From: stephen.holst at randrglobal.com (Stephen Holst)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 14:15:11 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] '69 side lights
In-Reply-To: <00a36c80bdadade5cc6ea74ff480bb56@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CC6282EF.3A42%stephen.holst@randrglobal.com>

Paul:
Looks like Mark has "the" solution that fits the budget.  Looks simple
Steve


On 8/28/12 1:41 PM, "Mark Hatch" <mhatch at ics.com> wrote:

> Paul,
> 
> 
> 
> Actually it is pretty easy to just replace the light socket with a new one
> that you can get at any auto store. The sockets are press fit.  See the
> posting at:
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16406
> 
> 
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 11:21:02 -0400
> 
> From: Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>
> 
> To: Roadster Stuff <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> 
> Subject: [Roadsters] '69 side lights
> 
> Message-ID:
> 
>                 <
> CAFEMhEsQ0rLLZUO_0WJ42sqqhNEjKsKWcT+52+1rFyK4zBM2Ug at mail.gmail.com>
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> 
> 
>   Having owned my '69 since 1996, I figured it was time to make the side
> 
> lights work again.  I have all the fixtures, but none have working light
> 
> sockets in them.  All corroded and some are broken off inside.  One still
> 
> has a base of a light bulb in it, and it refuses to budge!
> 
> 
> 
>   So, has anybody drilled out the old sockets and used new ones?  What
> 
> sockets did you use?
> 
> 
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Paul
> 
> Ohio
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From az589 at lafn.org  Tue Aug 28 15:18:35 2012
From: az589 at lafn.org (Stan Chernoff)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 14:18:35 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] '69 side lights
In-Reply-To: <CAFEMhEs0H5fNtvH6MWHXHxysZnKw-+eUQ9dj8_B-U3P6wGiOgA@mail.g
	mail.com>
References: <CAFEMhEsQ0rLLZUO_0WJ42sqqhNEjKsKWcT+52+1rFyK4zBM2Ug@mail.gmail.com>
	<CC627477.3A38%stephen.holst@randrglobal.com>
	<CAFEMhEs0H5fNtvH6MWHXHxysZnKw-+eUQ9dj8_B-U3P6wGiOgA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20120828140949.04081738@lafn.org>

I have pairs of NOS teardrop side marker lamps both new in the box 
and also new without boxes.  They are available and are listed on my 
site.  I may also have some new rear round side markers from a 510.

Go to 
<http://www.risingsunracing.com/images/TorquesSetting.jpg>http://www.fairladyproducts.com 
Look in the ELECTRICAL PARTS section.

Stan
=============

At 10:21 AM 8/28/2012, Paul Kort wrote:
>   Sounds like a great idea, but if Dann at Rallye doesn't have them, it's a
>pretty good guess nobody has NOS side lights for a '69.  Besides, mine look
>great on the outside, just need new a new light socket so why pay $131
>(Price for the right side rear '69 NOS light at Rallye) when I can rebuild
>mine for less than a tenth that much?
>   And I did check with Ross, Mike, and Les; none have new ones.
>
>Paul
>Ohio
>
>On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Stephen Holst <
>stephen.holst at randrglobal.com> wrote:
>
> > Of course I state the obvious>  For a price (Actually less than if you were
> > dealing with a new car) you can still obtain new, "old Stock", Side marker
> > lights
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > On 8/28/12 11:21 AM, "Paul Kort" <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com> wrote:

From az589 at lafn.org  Tue Aug 28 15:27:33 2012
From: az589 at lafn.org (Stan Chernoff)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 14:27:33 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Re:  '69 side lights
Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20120828142336.04bb4ba0@lafn.org>

I made a mistaek on my last posting.  I do have the new side marker lamps

Please go to http://www.fairladyproducts.com

Stan

>To: Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com>,
>         Stephen Holst
>         <stephen.holst at randrglobal.com>
>From: Stan Chernoff <az589 at lafn.org>
>
>
>I have pairs of NOS teardrop side marker lamps both new in the box
>and also new without boxes.  They are available and are listed on my
>site.  I may also have some new rear round side markers from a 510.
>
>Go to
>http://www.fairladyproducts.com
>Look in the ELECTRICAL PARTS section.
>
>Stan
>=============
>
>At 10:21 AM 8/28/2012, Paul Kort wrote:
> >   Sounds like a great idea, but if Dann at Rallye doesn't have them, it's a
> >pretty good guess nobody has NOS side lights for a '69.  Besides, mine look
> >great on the outside, just need new a new light socket so why pay $131
> >(Price for the right side rear '69 NOS light at Rallye) when I can rebuild
> >mine for less than a tenth that much?
> >   And I did check with Ross, Mike, and Les; none have new ones.
> >
> >Paul
> >Ohio
> >
> >On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Stephen Holst <
> >stephen.holst at randrglobal.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Of course I state the obvious>  For a price (Actually less than 
> if you were
> > > dealing with a new car) you can still obtain new, "old Stock", 
> Side marker
> > > lights
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/28/12 11:21 AM, "Paul Kort" <paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com> wrote:
>________________________________________
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From datsunpartsdotcom at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 28 19:58:28 2012
From: datsunpartsdotcom at yahoo.com (datsun parts.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 18:58:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] '69 side lights
In-Reply-To: <BAY146-W532D53E6B98A57D3C73B5FCA10@phx.gbl>
References: <CAFEMhEsQ0rLLZUO_0WJ42sqqhNEjKsKWcT+52+1rFyK4zBM2Ug@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY146-W532D53E6B98A57D3C73B5FCA10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1346205508.47235.YahooMailNeo@web125701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Gary Wasserman in San Diego found away to re-condition the front 69 marker
lights with a new socket inexpensively.  You may want to contact him. Pm me I
can give you his number.

Dean




________________________________
 From:
Scott Sheeler <poontang188 at hotmail.com>
To: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com;
Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28,
2012 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] '69 side lights
 
For rears you can
cheat and use the rears from the old PL 510's - I think
pre-1972. The rubber
is tapered differently but the lens and socket are the
same.  They may be
easier to find than non-existent roadster parts.

Scott Sheeler
http://thedatsunroadsterbook.com/



> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 11:21:02 -0400
>
From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>
Subject: [Roadsters] '69 side lights
>
> Having owned my '69 since 1996, I
figured it was time to make the side
> lights work again. I have all the
fixtures, but none have working light
> sockets in them. All corroded and some
are broken off inside. One still
> has a base of a light bulb in it, and it
refuses to budge!
>
> So, has anybody drilled out the old sockets and used new
ones? What
> sockets did you use?
>
> TIA,
> Paul
> Ohio
>
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From mark at bradakis.com  Tue Aug 28 21:44:40 2012
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 21:44:40 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] confirm   c8a33a52f5cd5f6c377767eb7a696530b0a9495c
In-Reply-To: <CALO7pZrk83K7xw3imfRE=dVAgd5V6qLGcXD26JRhXj8S6-k8iA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.0.1346071203.10575.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
	<CAFEMhEto9AYUdqo5ZmJdwF3m2ib4T_KPfUBHxPv07BJSsaaC9A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALO7pZrk83K7xw3imfRE=dVAgd5V6qLGcXD26JRhXj8S6-k8iA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <503D9028.9060308@bradakis.com>

David Bentz wrote:
> i think someone went to click on the link from one of your emails and might
> have clicked to remove you.
>
> (look at the bottom of the message)...you could click the same and try to
> unsubscribe me.
>
>
>
The personalized unsubscribe link goes only to the person receiving the 
list message.
Joe gets the list messages with a link to Joe's subscription, and only 
his.  John gets the
list messages with a link to John's subscription, and only his.

Those who don't bother to edit their replies for whatever reason send 
their link out to
everyone on the planet.

mjb.



mjb.

From roadster at astound.net  Tue Aug 28 23:40:17 2012
From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 22:40:17 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] SRL-00248 has a new home!
In-Reply-To: <CALmuZ6B_2Sn8O0UyDOU-Siqtw3A3+GesqQLmJM+YpoDRdsN+zw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALmuZ6B_2Sn8O0UyDOU-Siqtw3A3+GesqQLmJM+YpoDRdsN+zw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9B1A04E1-0F69-48BE-8B83-2C58E7F88981@astound.net>

Congrats to Rob for acquiring his dream car. I have many fond memories of
Calspeed with that car. We used to tear up the streets of San Francisco, he in
his 67.5 and me in my 66 U20-powered roadster. He always said these cars were
meant to be driven, and that, he did. He gave me a souvenir before selling it
to Raul, his glove-box door signed by Mr K. I would have loved to have the
whole car, but this memento keeps the car fresh in my memories.

Fred - SSF, CA
66 2000

On Aug 27, 2012, at 9:38 PM, alvin gogineni <alvingogi at gmail.com> wrote:

> After years of searching for the right roadster Rob at ZCG found the car of
> his dreams...
>
> Read about it here:
>
http://www.zcarblog.com/2012/08/27/featured-cars-and-projects/the-zcg-datsun-
2000-roadster.html

From datsunpartsdotcom at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 29 09:47:20 2012
From: datsunpartsdotcom at yahoo.com (datsun parts.com)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 08:47:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] New Weather-strip Kits
In-Reply-To: <9B1A04E1-0F69-48BE-8B83-2C58E7F88981@astound.net>
References: <CALmuZ6B_2Sn8O0UyDOU-Siqtw3A3+GesqQLmJM+YpoDRdsN+zw@mail.gmail.com>
	<9B1A04E1-0F69-48BE-8B83-2C58E7F88981@astound.net>
Message-ID: <1346255240.55879.YahooMailNeo@web125706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Great new kits with competitive pricing:


www.datsunparts.com/Weatherstrip-Kits-and-Packages


New weather-strip & rubber parts individual pieces:


www.datsunparts.com/Weatherstripping


www.datsunparts.com/Rubber-Parts



Dean



________________________________

From tom at datsun2000.com  Wed Aug 29 09:55:07 2012
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 08:55:07 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Lower Chain Tensioner Needed
Message-ID: <503E3B5B.10109@datsun2000.com>

I am changing both timing chains in Mr. Hyde.  For reasons I don't 
understand the upper chain has stretched to the point where it is 
hitting the Evil L after only 18,000 miles.  It is a chain manufactured 
in England, so I don't know what the quality of the metal is compared to 
an OEM chain.

In the process of putting things back together I was getting the lower 
tensioner ready to install and it squirted oil out of the face of the 
chain guide.  It's not supposed to do that.  Closer inspection found a 
small hole and crack in the face of the guide.

Does anyone have a lower timing chain tensioner for the U20 or R16 
engine?  Or just the guide alone?  If so would you please contact me off 
of the list?

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Las Vegas
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

From svedise at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 29 10:20:01 2012
From: svedise at hotmail.com (Jim Svedise)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:20:01 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Lower Chain Tensioner Needed
In-Reply-To: <503E3B5B.10109@datsun2000.com>
References: <503E3B5B.10109@datsun2000.com>
Message-ID: <BLU152-ds5391AAE18A7DC37E0777AB4A00@phx.gbl>

The 2000 lower foot tensioner is supposed to have an oil hole in it but no 
crack. Talk to Stan he's got them that's where I got mine. 
http://www.fairladyproducts.com


Jim
70 2000
__________________________________
Living The Good Life South Of The Border


-----Original Message----- 
From: Tom Hendricksen
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 8:55 AM
To: Roadster E-Mail List
Subject: [Roadsters] Lower Chain Tensioner Needed

I am changing both timing chains in Mr. Hyde.  For reasons I don't
understand the upper chain has stretched to the point where it is
hitting the Evil L after only 18,000 miles.  It is a chain manufactured
in England, so I don't know what the quality of the metal is compared to
an OEM chain.

In the process of putting things back together I was getting the lower
tensioner ready to install and it squirted oil out of the face of the
chain guide.  It's not supposed to do that.  Closer inspection found a
small hole and crack in the face of the guide.

Does anyone have a lower timing chain tensioner for the U20 or R16
engine?  Or just the guide alone?  If so would you please contact me off
of the list?

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Las Vegas
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org
________________________________________ 

From tputland at charter.net  Wed Aug 29 10:26:31 2012
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:26:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Lower Chain Tensioner Needed
Message-ID: <733a31f6.33f6c0.13973349ca5.Webtop.46@charter.net>

Offlist reply sent.


On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Tom Hendricksen wrote:

> I am changing both timing chains in Mr. Hyde.  For reasons I don't 
> understand the upper chain has stretched to the point where it is 
> hitting the Evil L after only 18,000 miles.  It is a chain 
> manufactured in England, so I don't know what the quality of the metal 
> is compared to an OEM chain.
>
> In the process of putting things back together I was getting the lower 
> tensioner ready to install and it squirted oil out of the face of the 
> chain guide.  It's not supposed to do that.  Closer inspection found a 
> small hole and crack in the face of the guide.
>
> Does anyone have a lower timing chain tensioner for the U20 or R16 
> engine?  Or just the guide alone?  If so would you please contact me 
> off of the list?
>
> Tom
> 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
> Las Vegas
> http://www.datsun2000.com
> http://www.nowroc.org
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From sandhoff at csus.edu  Wed Aug 29 10:54:20 2012
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:54:20 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Lower Chain Tensioner Needed
In-Reply-To: <503E3B5B.10109@datsun2000.com>
Message-ID: <503DE6CC.28713.4D4B6B58@localhost>

[reply sent on-list :-) ]

> In the process of putting things back together I was getting the lower 
> tensioner ready to install and it squirted oil out of the face of the 
> chain guide.  It's not supposed to do that.  Closer inspection found a 
> small hole and crack in the face of the guide.

Are you sure it's not supposed to do that? I thought this was a
metered hole and the oil is intended to provide needed lubrication
to this interface...

The cracking and checking will be from heat and age

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From cehubbard at verizon.net  Wed Aug 29 11:10:50 2012
From: cehubbard at verizon.net (Charles Hubbard)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:10:50 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 1964 SPl310 Windshield frame installation
Message-ID: <012301cd8609$3d74b9e0$b85e2da0$@net>

I have two (2) windshield questions. First, I am getting ready to reassemble
and install the windshield frame and glass on my 1964 SPL310.  The chrome
shop drilled out the factory rivets that attach the little wings that the
door weather stripping attaches to on the sides of the windshield frame.  I
am wondering how to reattach the wing back to the frame.  The hole in the
wing was drilled slightly bigger than a normal size machine screw head, so a
flush mount machine screw will not work.  Someone suggested that I consider
using a strong industrial glue.  Pop rivets are rather week and may stick
too far into the glass channel.  I don't know anyone that knows how to redo
the original rivets.  Has anyone else has had to deal with this issue?

 

Second, I was wondering how to properly seal and mount the windshield:

- Do I fill the frame channels with sealant?  

- Does the rubber seal itself need sealant between the glass and seal?

- What is the best way to mount the windshield on a 1964?  I know that the
glass has to be in the frame, but bolting it to the car is a two-man job and
can be rather tricky.  Do I leave the frame loose then tighten it?

 

The last time I installed the windshield frame was over 20 years ago.  The
glass had a rock bruise in it so as soon as I closed the door, the
windshield cracked top to bottom.  I now have a new Nissan windshield that I
purchased over 10 years ago and have been waiting for a new paint job before
installing it.  That time has come and I need it to go well.  Rather than
charge in and risk breaking the new windshield, I thought that I would ask
for lessons learned.  Therefore, any advice or prior postings that you can
share would be appreciated.  

 

Charlie Hubbard 

1964 SPL 310

Flower Mound, TX

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From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 29 11:48:14 2012
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 10:48:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1964 SPl310 Windshield frame installation
In-Reply-To: <012301cd8609$3d74b9e0$b85e2da0$@net>
References: <012301cd8609$3d74b9e0$b85e2da0$@net>
Message-ID: <1346262494.25996.YahooMailRC@web180803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi Chuck, and Everyone else:

I recently re-installed my windshield (67.5) by myself.  it was already in the 
frame.  i used a fairly new gasket that sits between the windshield frame and 
the body and the body.  then I stood in the car with the assembly in hand, and 
lowered it onto the car, aiming for the bolt holes.  it wasn't very hard, and I 
didn't feel I really needed another person there to help.  once in place, and 
holding it with one hand, i started the bolts that secure the frame on the sides 
with the other hand.

I hope that helps.
s
675MIZU




________________________________
From: Charles Hubbard <cehubbard at verizon.net>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, August 29, 2012 10:16:57 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] 1964 SPl310 Windshield frame installation

I have two (2) windshield questions. First, I am getting ready to reassemble
and install the windshield frame and glass on my 1964 SPL310.  The chrome
shop drilled out the factory rivets that attach the little wings that the
door weather stripping attaches to on the sides of the windshield frame.  I
am wondering how to reattach the wing back to the frame.  The hole in the
wing was drilled slightly bigger than a normal size machine screw head, so a
flush mount machine screw will not work.  Someone suggested that I consider
using a strong industrial glue.  Pop rivets are rather week and may stick
too far into the glass channel.  I don't know anyone that knows how to redo
the original rivets.  Has anyone else has had to deal with this issue?



Second, I was wondering how to properly seal and mount the windshield:

- Do I fill the frame channels with sealant?  

- Does the rubber seal itself need sealant between the glass and seal?

- What is the best way to mount the windshield on a 1964?  I know that the
glass has to be in the frame, but bolting it to the car is a two-man job and
can be rather tricky.  Do I leave the frame loose then tighten it?



The last time I installed the windshield frame was over 20 years ago.  The
glass had a rock bruise in it so as soon as I closed the door, the
windshield cracked top to bottom.  I now have a new Nissan windshield that I
purchased over 10 years ago and have been waiting for a new paint job before
installing it.  That time has come and I need it to go well.  Rather than
charge in and risk breaking the new windshield, I thought that I would ask
for lessons learned.  Therefore, any advice or prior postings that you can
share would be appreciated.  



Charlie Hubbard 

1964 SPL 310

Flower Mound, TX

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From graemes at internode.on.net  Thu Aug 30 03:49:06 2012
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 19:19:06 +0930
Subject: [Roadsters] 1964 SPl310 Windshield frame installation
In-Reply-To: <012301cd8609$3d74b9e0$b85e2da0$@net>
References: <012301cd8609$3d74b9e0$b85e2da0$@net>
Message-ID: <503F3712.8030109@internode.on.net>

I don't have a Parts Manual for a '64 but I had a look in my '65 Manual 
for some info.
My '65 SP310 has the same construction.
I am a bit confused about these "wings".
The door frame closes on the weather strip so I don't understand your 
comment about the "glass channel".
I plan to use some aluminium or stainless steel pop rivets to re-attach 
those fellas.
I have attached the relevant drawing and if I'm correct you are 
referring to P/N 47 & 57 are you not?

I wouldn't fill the channel with sealant.
I know it is a factory water trap but Archimedes once said, "You can 
seal water in but you can't seal it out".
I plan to de-rust the channels as best I can [sand blasting] and hope 
the Chrome plating will protect them.

There should be sealant applied between the glass and the rubber seal.

Why not get an Auto Glass fitter to do the job?
If he breaks anything it should be on his Insurance.

Regards,
Graeme Suckling
http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza
Adelaide
South Australia.

On 30/08/2012 2:40 AM, Charles Hubbard wrote:
> I have two (2) windshield questions. First, I am getting ready to reassemble
> and install the windshield frame and glass on my 1964 SPL310.  The chrome
> shop drilled out the factory rivets that attach the little wings that the
> door weather stripping attaches to on the sides of the windshield frame.  I
> am wondering how to reattach the wing back to the frame.  The hole in the
> wing was drilled slightly bigger than a normal size machine screw head, so a
> flush mount machine screw will not work.  Someone suggested that I consider
> using a strong industrial glue.  Pop rivets are rather week and may stick
> too far into the glass channel.  I don't know anyone that knows how to redo
> the original rivets.  Has anyone else has had to deal with this issue?
>
>   
>
> Second, I was wondering how to properly seal and mount the windshield:
>
> - Do I fill the frame channels with sealant?
>
> - Does the rubber seal itself need sealant between the glass and seal?
>
> - What is the best way to mount the windshield on a 1964?  I know that the
> glass has to be in the frame, but bolting it to the car is a two-man job and
> can be rather tricky.  Do I leave the frame loose then tighten it?
>
>   
>
> The last time I installed the windshield frame was over 20 years ago.  The
> glass had a rock bruise in it so as soon as I closed the door, the
> windshield cracked top to bottom.  I now have a new Nissan windshield that I
> purchased over 10 years ago and have been waiting for a new paint job before
> installing it.  That time has come and I need it to go well.  Rather than
> charge in and risk breaking the new windshield, I thought that I would ask
> for lessons learned.  Therefore, any advice or prior postings that you can
> share would be appreciated.
>
>   
>
> Charlie Hubbard
>
> 1964 SPL 310
>
> Flower Mound, TX
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat]
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>
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From graemes at internode.on.net  Thu Aug 30 03:55:33 2012
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 19:25:33 +0930
Subject: [Roadsters] 1964 SPl310 Windshield frame installation
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"Pop rivets are rather week and may stick
too far into the glass channel."

I think I understand now.
You are concerned that the pop rivets will be a problem on theinside  of the windscreen side channel, right?
Could be so!
If you really want to use a conventional rivet, check out a reputable Fastener Supplier, they may have what you need.

Regards,
Graeme Suckling
http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza
Adelaide
South Australia.

From nolan at mortarsprayer.com  Thu Aug 30 09:42:55 2012
From: nolan at mortarsprayer.com (Nolan)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:42:55 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Any ideas for shortening the clutch master? 68
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Thank you for the pictures and description Walter. We will be in the shop
this evening and I will take a look.

 

Best regards,

Nolan

 

From: Walter.Peterson [mailto:Walter.Peterson at cox.net] 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 7:48 AM
To: 'Nolan'
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Any ideas for shortening the clutch master? 68
SRL311

 

I used the 520 Pickup truck 520 clutch master to replace the Roadster Brake
master.

This points the hydraulic line up and makes clearance for the air filter
assy to fit between the two.

Stiff motor mounts are still required to keep the motor from bumping them.

 



What I've found online is different than what I've currently got installed.

 



 

These are 44's with the factory air cleaner on an R20 motor. A smaller
battery is also currently in place. (Not shown)

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

Walt Peterson

Santa Barbara

20R Street Racer

"Datsa 67"

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Nolan
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 8:21 PM
To: 'Gordon Maness'; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Any ideas for shortening the clutch master? 68
SRL311

 

Thank you so much Gordon.

 

I figured someone on the list had already tacked this. Do you have Gary's
email?

 

 

 

Best regards,

 

Nolan

 

 

 

From: Gordon Maness  <mailto:[mailto:gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com]>
[mailto:gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com]

Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 7:03 PM

To:  <mailto:nolan at mortarsprayer.com> nolan at mortarsprayer.com

Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Any ideas for shortening the clutch master? 68

SRL311

 

 

 

Get in touch with Gary Boone in Wyoming.

I think he has already 'been there done that'.

 

g

 

 

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> To:  <mailto:datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
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> Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 18:43:31 -0700

> Subject: [Roadsters] Any ideas for shortening the clutch master? 68 

> SRL311

> 

> Hello Friends,

> 

> I am still looking around for the factory airbox for the 50 mm 

> Solexes. If

I

> can't find it I will need to build something.

> 

> The clutch slave takes up valuable real-estate by the back velocity stack.

> 

> 

> 

> Can anyone show me examples of a short clutch master or other 

> solutions to get more space back there?

> 

> 

> 

> We had moved the expansion tank to the passenger side and opened up 

> the

core

> support in front of the carbs to build a ram air box. One of the 

> trapezoid filters up there could be a solution with a sealed air box.

> 

> 

> 

> Any examples would be appreciated.

> 

> 

> 

> All my best,

> 

> Nolan

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