From az589 at lafn.org Tue Nov 1 08:55:24 2011 From: az589 at lafn.org (Stan Chernoff) Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 07:55:24 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 auctioned in Indiana Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20111101074619.04681e20@lafn.org> In the October 31, 2011 issue of AutoWeek on page 49 there is a report of a 1600 roadster sold for $10,175. It looks like a pretty straight car. It is probably a '68 sold as a '69 because there are no side marker lights. The author missed the engine displacement by 1 cc but did OK in the description. Stan From tputland at charter.net Mon Nov 7 13:53:34 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 15:53:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] engine bearings (another dumb one from WI) Message-ID: <5a1b58c1.fde1.1337fceb991.Webtop.48@charter.net> here's a dumb one from me to you all: Crank and rod bearings come in standard and metric, correct? How do I determine if I have a metric block? is it simply a matter checking the block number and making sure it is after block #R4000? Or is there more to it than that? Thanks! tim From tputland at charter.net Mon Nov 7 15:53:13 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 17:53:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] engine bearings (another dumb one from WI) Message-ID: <7f9936fc.11503.133803c472a.Webtop.48@charter.net> More info needed I think: According to my machinist I need standard bearings. What I want to be sure of is getting the correct type: standard or metric. thanks! On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Tim wrote: > here's a dumb one from me to you all: > > Crank and rod bearings come in standard and metric, correct? > > How do I determine if I have a metric block? is it simply a matter > checking the block number and making sure it is after block #R4000? Or > is there more to it than that? > > Thanks! > > tim > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Nov 7 16:57:32 2011 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 15:57:32 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] engine bearings (another dumb one from WI) In-Reply-To: <7f9936fc.11503.133803c472a.Webtop.48@charter.net> References: <7f9936fc.11503.133803c472a.Webtop.48@charter.net> Message-ID: <002501cc9da9$04098b70$0c1ca250$@net> Since you mention "after block #R40000" [NOTE: You left off a zero], I'm guessing you're talking R16. According to The Datsun Roadster Book (which you should have), the block threads are SAE up through #R40000, then metric after that. I'm guessing there may be an exception or three to that rule. Always measure to be sure. However, when we're talking bearings, STANDARD does not mean SAE, but the standard or stock dimension. From there you go oversize or undersize, usually in 0.010-inch (or 25mm) increments. You'll see this in the parts manual. The downloadable PDF version is kinda hard to read, but easy in The Datsun Roadster Book. The bearing caps may also have the size stamped on the back either in inches or millimeters. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 2:53 PM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] engine bearings (another dumb one from WI) More info needed I think: According to my machinist I need standard bearings. What I want to be sure of is getting the correct type: standard or metric. thanks! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 12:54 PM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] engine bearings (another dumb one from WI) here's a dumb one from me to you all: Crank and rod bearings come in standard and metric, correct? How do I determine if I have a metric block? is it simply a matter checking the block number and making sure it is after block #R4000? Or is there more to it than that? Thanks! tim From sumton at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 7 18:08:40 2011 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 19:08:40 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] performance improvements Message-ID: <5F6C9A35BB534B4F851744777E81B260@ranteer.local> hi. I'm adding webers to my early 67, and a mild cam. the head has already been shaved. I'd like to also do some handling improvements. I have wider wheels and tires already. I see some lowering stiffer springs, etc. anyone have recommendations? I'm not an autocrosser, but I like to drive my cars hard. also - any reason not to run a larger pipe through the frame (I guess it would have to be oval?) instead of having that sudden restriction just beyond the header? thanks! From aultgc at att.net Mon Nov 7 19:50:32 2011 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 20:50:32 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] engine bearings (another dumb one from WI) References: <7f9936fc.11503.133803c472a.Webtop.48@charter.net> Message-ID: <6B4865A5F81D42F4A5E7560A26E2992F@gaxp1> Tim, "Standard" is standard. There is no metric or SAE. 0.010 inches is approximately 0.025 mm. Order standard bearings from a reputable supplier and you'll be fine. When I had the '69 (metric) U20 in my '66 rebuilt, we ground the crank 0.010" and bored the cylinders 0.020". Bought appropriate bearings and pistons w/rings from one of our suppliers. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] engine bearings (another dumb one from WI) > More info needed I think: > > According to my machinist I need standard bearings. > > What I want to be sure of is getting the correct type: standard or metric. > > thanks! > > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Tim wrote: > >> here's a dumb one from me to you all: >> >> Crank and rod bearings come in standard and metric, correct? >> >> How do I determine if I have a metric block? is it simply a matter >> checking the block number and making sure it is after block #R4000? Or is >> there more to it than that? >> >> Thanks! >> >> tim >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From jh.bahn at verizon.net Mon Nov 7 20:01:29 2011 From: jh.bahn at verizon.net (jh.bahn at verizon.net) Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 22:01:29 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] performance improvements In-Reply-To: <5F6C9A35BB534B4F851744777E81B260@ranteer.local> References: <5F6C9A35BB534B4F851744777E81B260@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <70D2D0378D36460CBBB92E006C51149A@BahnTHINK> Comp sway bar, urethane bushings, comp front springs, a leaf out of the rear springs. See the dentist and get your fillings checked.... JH -----Original Message----- From: oliver Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 8:08 PM To: Datsun Subject: [Roadsters] performance improvements hi. I'm adding webers to my early 67, and a mild cam. the head has already been shaved. I'd like to also do some handling improvements. I have wider wheels and tires already. I see some lowering stiffer springs, etc. anyone have recommendations? I'm not an autocrosser, but I like to drive my cars hard. also - any reason not to run a larger pipe through the frame (I guess it would have to be oval?) instead of having that sudden restriction just beyond the header? thanks! ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/vze3bsfc at verizon.net From jh.bahn at verizon.net Mon Nov 7 20:09:02 2011 From: jh.bahn at verizon.net (jh.bahn at verizon.net) Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 22:09:02 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] engine bearings (another dumb one from WI) In-Reply-To: <002501cc9da9$04098b70$0c1ca250$@net> References: <7f9936fc.11503.133803c472a.Webtop.48@charter.net> <002501cc9da9$04098b70$0c1ca250$@net> Message-ID: Main Bearing info R 16 Nissan 12207-73600 3 Main type 770 Nissan 12207-12201 3 Main type 500 R16 (white metal) Nissan 12207-73600 As above; renumbered Nissan 12207-12201 020 .020" or 0.50 mm Yamato-Shokai MS-1002GO (NDC) 3 main OEM supplied to Nissan Nissan 12207-E0702 5 Main; racing clearance.003" NDC MS1042GP-STD http://www.rgbronze.com/bearings.html Vandervell VPM817 3 Main BMC B Series MGA Vandervell VP2 .010", .020", .030", .040"? Vandervell VPM91049 3 Main BMC B Series MGB Vandervell VP2 .010", .020", .030", .040"? http://www.glaciervandervell.com/ Rod Bearing Nissan 12111-25510 R 16/U20 5 Main Rods; racing clearance .002" Nissan 12111-12210 Std. Clevite CB-981-P Std. 67-68 411 1.6 Beck Arnley 12111-12210 Std. 67-68 411 1.6 Nissan 12111-12210 010 .010" or 0.25 mm Nissan 12207-73600 R 16 3 Main Rods .002 -.0025" clearance Vandervell VPR643 BMC B Series 1500-1800cc VP2 .010", .020", .030"? -----Original Message----- From: Pete Peters Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 6:57 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] engine bearings (another dumb one from WI) Since you mention "after block #R40000" [NOTE: You left off a zero], I'm guessing you're talking R16. According to The Datsun Roadster Book (which you should have), the block threads are SAE up through #R40000, then metric after that. I'm guessing there may be an exception or three to that rule. Always measure to be sure. However, when we're talking bearings, STANDARD does not mean SAE, but the standard or stock dimension. From there you go oversize or undersize, usually in 0.010-inch (or 25mm) increments. You'll see this in the parts manual. The downloadable PDF version is kinda hard to read, but easy in The Datsun Roadster Book. The bearing caps may also have the size stamped on the back either in inches or millimeters. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 2:53 PM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] engine bearings (another dumb one from WI) More info needed I think: According to my machinist I need standard bearings. What I want to be sure of is getting the correct type: standard or metric. thanks! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 12:54 PM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] engine bearings (another dumb one from WI) here's a dumb one from me to you all: Crank and rod bearings come in standard and metric, correct? How do I determine if I have a metric block? is it simply a matter checking the block number and making sure it is after block #R4000? Or is there more to it than that? Thanks! tim ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/vze3bsfc at verizon.net From tputland at charter.net Tue Nov 8 05:10:31 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 07:10:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] engine bearings (another dumb one from WI) Message-ID: <6b3c600f.1653c.13383163825.Webtop.44@charter.net> A tiny little light went on in my tiny little brain this morning. If I understand this correctly standard and metric on the bearings has nothing to do with the type of block (other than whether you need them for three or five main. ding ding ding ding ding "The Datsun Roadster Book (which you should have)"......actually, I have two copies of it: One for the shop that tends to get somewhat dirty and one for the house that will stay clean. I may need another copy of the first two in tee future as my first set is getting somewhat tattered. Thanks all! On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Pete Peters wrote: > Since you mention "after block #R40000" [NOTE: You left off a zero], > I'm > guessing you're talking R16. According to The Datsun Roadster Book > (which > you should have), the block threads are SAE up through #R40000, then > metric > after that. I'm guessing there may be an exception or three to that > rule. > Always measure to be sure. > > However, when we're talking bearings, STANDARD does not mean SAE, but > the > standard or stock dimension. From there you go oversize or undersize, > usually in 0.010-inch (or 25mm) increments. You'll see this in the > parts > manual. The downloadable PDF version is kinda hard to read, but easy > in The > Datsun Roadster Book. > > The bearing caps may also have the size stamped on the back either in > inches > or millimeters. > > Pete > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 2:53 PM > To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] engine bearings (another dumb one from WI) > > More info needed I think: > > According to my machinist I need standard bearings. > > What I want to be sure of is getting the correct type: standard or > metric. > > thanks! > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 12:54 PM > To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] engine bearings (another dumb one from WI) > > here's a dumb one from me to you all: > > Crank and rod bearings come in standard and metric, correct? > > How do I determine if I have a metric block? is it simply a matter > checking > the block number and making sure it is after block #R4000? Or is there > more > to it than that? > > Thanks! > > tim > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Nov 8 12:50:18 2011 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:50:18 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 1600 Roadster .... super deal ! Message-ID: <001501cc9e4f$a5515e80$eff41b80$@net> Forwardingb&b&b& Greg has a guy who wants to sell his roadster. The car is on Vancouver Island (British Columbia, Canada). Contact Greg if you're interested. I do not know Greg nor the car. - Pete ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Greg Macaulay Date: November 7, 2011 7:05:21 PM PST To: Subject: 1970 1600 Roadster .... super deal ! Hi A fellow stopped by the garage this morning and wanted me to buy his roadster. He had bought it just outside LA, just after 9/11. It has been in dry storage ever since. He has acquired all sorts of bits and pieces for it. Newly rebuilt carbs, complete interior and hydraulics etc. There is well over 8 grand of new parts plus two soft tops and a hardtop. The head has been recently been rebuilt. He is between a rock and a hard place so to speak. Hebs having to move, he will have nowhere to store it nor time to work on it. So he wants it to go to someone on the island (preferably) that will take care of it. He said that the only rust on it is two 50 cent sized areas on the lower front fenders. It is basically a very sun baked Calli car that the interior and rubber seals and weather stripping etc have deteriorated. He has all new pieces included with the car. The frame / undercarriage is pristine c/w the b factory yellow inspection paint markingsb . There is everything that one needs to have a great little car. There is just too much to list. He would like to get 4 grand for everything. It has to go within weeks. I told him that I would contact people here on the island / lower mainland and the Oregon crowd. So if you know someone that is really looking for a great project please have them contact me ASAP. If it doesnbt sell Ibll probably buy it and over the winter sell off a truckload of all the new parts. I really donbt want to get more stuff to have to sell off at this time. With the pending sale of my Wagon I will have a wack of 510 stuff to sell in the next couple of weeks. At this point in my life the objective was to cut down to two cars and get rid of all my spares, posters and models, etc. So. if you can think of anyone that would be interested pls have them contact me asap and webll get the deal going. Youbll be saving this Datsunolicbs life........ as the wife would just about kill me if I brought another project home she wants to park her SUV in the garage.... imagine? Cheers Greg 250-658-8900 From markbennett1 at shaw.ca Tue Nov 8 13:35:33 2011 From: markbennett1 at shaw.ca (Mark Bennett) Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 12:35:33 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 1600 Roadster .... super deal ! In-Reply-To: <001501cc9e4f$a5515e80$eff41b80$@net> References: <001501cc9e4f$a5515e80$eff41b80$@net> Message-ID: <4EB99295.10506@shaw.ca> Hi list Thanks for posting this Pete! I'm the guy who popped in to see Greg. I was hoping that Greg would know a local guy who would want to take this on. There is only a couple of roadsters around up here so it may be heading back to the states! I'm happy to answer any questions about the car....every vendor knows and loves me!!!!:-) cheers, Mark Bennett On 08/11/2011 11:50 AM, Pete Peters wrote: > Forwardingb&b&b& > > Greg has a guy who wants to sell his roadster. The car is on Vancouver Island > (British Columbia, Canada). > > Contact Greg if you're interested. > > I do not know Greg nor the car. > > - Pete > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: Greg Macaulay > Date: November 7, 2011 7:05:21 PM PST > To: > Subject: 1970 1600 Roadster .... super deal ! > > > Hi > > A fellow stopped by the garage this morning and wanted me to buy his roadster. > He had bought it just outside LA, just after 9/11. It has been in dry storage > ever since. He has acquired all sorts of bits and pieces for it. Newly rebuilt > carbs, complete interior and hydraulics etc. There is well over 8 grand of new > parts plus two soft tops and a hardtop. The head has been recently been > rebuilt. > > He is between a rock and a hard place so to speak. Hebs having to move, he > will have nowhere to store it nor time to work on it. So he wants it to go to > someone on the island (preferably) that will take care of it. He said that the > only rust on it is two 50 cent sized areas on the lower front fenders. It is > basically a very sun baked Calli car that the interior and rubber seals and > weather stripping etc have deteriorated. He has all new pieces included with > the car. The frame / undercarriage is pristine c/w the b factory yellow > inspection paint markingsb . There is everything that one needs to have a > great little car. There is just too much to list. > > He would like to get 4 grand for everything. It has to go within weeks. I told > him that I would contact people here on the island / lower mainland and the > Oregon crowd. So if you know someone that is really looking for a great > project please have them contact me ASAP. If it doesnbt sell Ibll probably > buy it and over the winter sell off a truckload of all the new parts. I > really donbt want to get more stuff to have to sell off at this time. With > the pending sale of my Wagon I will have a wack of 510 stuff to sell in the > next couple of weeks. At this point in my life the objective was to cut down > to two cars and get rid of all my spares, posters and models, etc. > > So. if you can think of anyone that would be interested pls have them contact > me asap and webll get the deal going. Youbll be saving this Datsunolicbs > life........ as the wife would just about kill me if I brought another project > home she wants to park her SUV in the garage.... imagine? > > Cheers > Greg > 250-658-8900 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/markbennett1 at shaw.ca From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Fri Nov 11 15:00:24 2011 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:00:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] Any one have the spec's Message-ID: <15d3.2e0d61cc.3beef4f8@aol.com> For the bolts that hold the pull handles on the bottom of the door (1967 if it makes a difference). Got the handles but no bolts so don't know what to buy. Thanks in advance. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) / _www.ZRoad.org_ (http://www.zroad.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1967 SPL311-09144 From jake7140 at yahoo.com Fri Nov 11 15:26:21 2011 From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:26:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] 66 1600 on back lot In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1321050381.8467.YahooMailNeo@web37906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ran across a 66 1600 on the back lot of a local dealer. it had been taken on trade a couple years ago. Can be had for ??? 500 or less. Original Cali car, so sunbaked, then to the midwest for the rust treatment. I've seen much worse though. he thinks it is startable. I did see what seemed to be a part of a brake line in a bag in the trunk, and not much fluid in the master, sooo. Has hardtop. Seals are mostly all dry-rotted. All parts seem to be there though. Might get pics this week if anyone is interested. Steve Steve's racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society www.elrss.com From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Fri Nov 11 16:22:29 2011 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 18:22:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for the spec's Message-ID: For the bolts that hold the pull handles on the bottom of the door (1967 if it makes a difference). Got the handles but no bolts so don't know what to buy. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) / _www.ZRoad.org_ (http://www.zroad.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1967 SPL311-09144 From jake7140 at yahoo.com Fri Nov 11 18:05:26 2011 From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:05:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] 66 1600 on back lot In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1321059926.98176.YahooMailNeo@web37906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> DOH! In Racine, WI 53406 Ran across a 66 1600 on the back lot of a local dealer. it had been taken on trade a couple years ago. Can be had for ??? 500 or less. Original Cali car, so sunbaked, then to the midwest for the rust treatment. I've seen much worse though. he thinks it is startable. I did see what seemed to be a part of a brake line in a bag in the trunk, and not much fluid in the master, sooo. Has hardtop. Seals are mostly all dry-rotted. All parts seem to be there though. Might get pics this week if anyone is interested. Steve Steve's racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society www.elrss.com From aultgc at att.net Fri Nov 11 19:11:47 2011 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:11:47 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Any one have the spec's References: <15d3.2e0d61cc.3beef4f8@aol.com> Message-ID: Gary, 10-32, and I presume, "yes", it makes a difference between the early cars and '68 and later. I use pan head stainless. Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 4:00 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Any one have the spec's > For the bolts that hold the pull handles on the bottom of the door (1967 > if > it makes a difference). Got the handles but no bolts so don't know what > to buy. > > Thanks in advance. > > Gary Lasater - Parker CO > founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) / > _www.ZRoad.org_ (http://www.zroad.org/) > 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) > 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) > 1964 SPL310-01289 > 1967 SPL311-09144 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From tputland at charter.net Sat Nov 12 07:07:39 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:07:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] 66 1600 on back lot Message-ID: <5f11d826.4885c.133981ae46c.Webtop.48@charter.net> yer killin me! tim On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Steve Jacobson wrote: > DOH! In Racine, WI 53406 > Ran across a 66 1600 on the back lot of a local > dealer. it had been taken on > trade a couple years ago. Can be had for ??? > 500 or less. Original Cali car, > so sunbaked, then to the midwest for the rust > treatment. I've seen much worse > though. he thinks it is startable. I did > see what seemed to be a part of a > brake line in a bag in the trunk, and not > much fluid in the master, sooo. Has > hardtop. Seals are mostly all > dry-rotted. All parts seem to be there though. > > Might get pics this week if > anyone is interested. > > Steve > > Steve's racing web site > www.NoNameRacing.com > Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society > www.elrss.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From vulforge at aol.com Sat Nov 12 12:45:06 2011 From: vulforge at aol.com (vulforge at aol.com) Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 14:45:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] '66 on back lot Message-ID: <8CE6F8AB63DC19C-EA0-2AF0F@web-mmc-d06.sysops.aol.com> I am interested, but wish it was closer. I need the entire front clip, radiator, support and trim to fix my "old" '67that someone left turned into. I don't suppose you feel like dragging it to Kansas City? Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1046 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Sat Nov 12 13:55:41 2011 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (cour.jpeg at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 20:55:41 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] '66 on back lot In-Reply-To: <8CE6F8AB63DC19C-EA0-2AF0F@web-mmc-d06.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CE6F8AB63DC19C-EA0-2AF0F@web-mmc-d06.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <2080903555-1321131341-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1870377942-@b11.c10.bise6.blackberry> If it starts, DRIVE it home !!! Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: vulforge at aol.com Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 14:45:06 To: Subject: [Roadsters] '66 on back lot I am interested, but wish it was closer. I need the entire front clip, radiator, support and trim to fix my "old" '67that someone left turned into. I don't suppose you feel like dragging it to Kansas City? Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1046 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com From wilhouse at charter.net Sat Nov 12 14:38:59 2011 From: wilhouse at charter.net (Ken & Tammy Williams) Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:38:59 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] '66 on back lot References: <8CE6F8AB63DC19C-EA0-2AF0F@web-mmc-d06.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Hey Russell, I may be able to help you out if you buy this car. I live in WI, but make the trip to KS a few times a year for family stuff. Plus I almost always bring with my truck. I also have a brother-in-law who lives in KC who comes up here a few times a year. Just let me know. Ken Williams '67 1600 Janesville, WI From vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com Sat Nov 12 20:13:44 2011 From: vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com (Vince Strazzabosco) Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:13:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] 66 1600 on back lot In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1321154024.85938.YahooMailClassic@web160717.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Yeah, it's killin' me too! I'd be interested in seeing the pictures, though I really need to get to work on the once red '66 that is hiding in my garage. Thanks, vince From sumton at sbcglobal.net Sat Nov 12 22:31:26 2011 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:31:26 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] sending units, gauges, and multi meters Message-ID: hi, all. I've got the car together and running after many, many years (I received it in kit form) and I'm trying to get readings on the gauges. I think the wiring is right, but of course who knows, right? I'm not sure if the sending units work either. if the gauge sits on a reading and doesn't move when connected, its probably broken, right? if I connect the multi meter between the sending unit and the voltage stabilizer, should I get a changing reading as the engine warms up and the temperature or oil pressure changes? for the gas gauge I've got to pull the sending unit and move it, but I'm confused on the measurement - am I measuring volts? resistance? what should I set the resistance to on the meter? thanks! From graemes at internode.on.net Sat Nov 12 23:04:17 2011 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling) Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:34:17 +1030 Subject: [Roadsters] sending units, gauges, and multi meters In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4EBF5DE1.8040206@internode.on.net> Hi Oliver, the Temperature Sender must be grounded properly so use the MM on resistance to check for that. If the sender is grounded OK, connect the MM to the centre post of the sender and start the engine. The sender is an NTC resistor, Negative Temperature Coefficient, which means it will read high resistance when the coolant is cold then the resistance will drop as the coolant warms up. Another check is to ground the sender wire in the engine bay and with the key ON the gauge should max out. The Oil Pressure Sender is also a variable resistor so check what the resistance is with the engine off, then start it up and the resistance should change as the pressure builds up. This is for a gauge. If you just have an oil light then the sender will disconnect the ground signal after the pressure builds up thus extinguishing the warning lamp The Fuel Sender is a really simple variable resistor, a float arm moves a wiper over a coil of wire to vary the current fed to the gauge. Disconnect the wiring and remove the sender. Connect the MM to the wire terminal and the metal frame. You can check it by sliding the float arm up and down the resistor windings. If the sender is in the tank, check that it is grounded properly, Black wire, turn the key ON and you should see a voltage on the sender wire, the value of which will depend on the fuel level and hence the float level. As for the gauges, they all need power on one side so use the MM on voltage and check for 12V on the Oil Gauge, whereas the Fuel and Temp. gauges are fed a reduced voltage from the stabiliser that you mentioned when the key is ON. Hope this helps:) Regards, Graeme Suckling 1965 SP310 Datsun Sports 1971 P510 Datsun 1600 1972 PL510 Datsun 1600 LHD 1973 HS30 Datsun 240Z 1984 B120 Datsun 1200 utility 1993 ECR33 Skyline GTS25t http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia. On 13/11/2011 4:01 PM, oliver wrote: > hi, all. > > I've got the car together and running after many, many years (I received it in > kit form) and I'm trying to get readings on the gauges. > > I think the wiring is right, but of course who knows, right? I'm not sure if > the sending units work either. > > if the gauge sits on a reading and doesn't move when connected, its probably > broken, right? > > if I connect the multi meter between the sending unit and the voltage > stabilizer, should I get a changing reading as the engine warms up and the > temperature or oil pressure changes? for the gas gauge I've got to pull the > sending unit and move it, but I'm confused on the measurement - am I measuring > volts? resistance? what should I set the resistance to on the meter? > > thanks! > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on.net From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Mon Nov 14 09:13:57 2011 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (cour.jpeg at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:13:57 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] sending units, gauges, and multi meters In-Reply-To: <4EBF5DE1.8040206@internode.on.net> References: <4EBF5DE1.8040206@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <596146648-1321287240-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-760678769-@b11.c10.bise6.blackberry> It might help to provide some discussion about hooking up your VOM instrument. When you put the meter in line, that is, disconnecting the lead from the harness to a contact, you're measuring the current that device will draw when powered up. You must set the VOM to current, not volts and especially not Ohms/Resistance. Putting the meter across the same circuit, positive test probe to the contact, while it is connected to the harness, and negative to a good ground, measures voltage. Set your meter accordingly. To measure the resistance as Graeme described, disconnect the harness from the sending unit, connect your negative test probe to a good ground (a clean part of the engine, I use the lift hook), and the positive probe to the center of the sending unit, where the harness wire would go. Set VOM to Resistance, write down the reading in Ohms when the engine is cold, and do all this again after the engine has warmed up. If your test probes have clips or you're brave, you can connect while the engine warms up and watch the resistance change. Hope helpful. Paul Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: Graeme Suckling Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:34:17 To: Subject: Re: [Roadsters] sending units, gauges, and multi meters Hi Oliver, the Temperature Sender must be grounded properly so use the MM on resistance to check for that. If the sender is grounded OK, connect the MM to the centre post of the sender and start the engine. The sender is an NTC resistor, Negative Temperature Coefficient, which means it will read high resistance when the coolant is cold then the resistance will drop as the coolant warms up. Another check is to ground the sender wire in the engine bay and with the key ON the gauge should max out. The Oil Pressure Sender is also a variable resistor so check what the resistance is with the engine off, then start it up and the resistance should change as the pressure builds up. This is for a gauge. If you just have an oil light then the sender will disconnect the ground signal after the pressure builds up thus extinguishing the warning lamp The Fuel Sender is a really simple variable resistor, a float arm moves a wiper over a coil of wire to vary the current fed to the gauge. Disconnect the wiring and remove the sender. Connect the MM to the wire terminal and the metal frame. You can check it by sliding the float arm up and down the resistor windings. If the sender is in the tank, check that it is grounded properly, Black wire, turn the key ON and you should see a voltage on the sender wire, the value of which will depend on the fuel level and hence the float level. As for the gauges, they all need power on one side so use the MM on voltage and check for 12V on the Oil Gauge, whereas the Fuel and Temp. gauges are fed a reduced voltage from the stabiliser that you mentioned when the key is ON. Hope this helps:) Regards, Graeme Suckling 1965 SP310 Datsun Sports 1971 P510 Datsun 1600 1972 PL510 Datsun 1600 LHD 1973 HS30 Datsun 240Z 1984 B120 Datsun 1200 utility 1993 ECR33 Skyline GTS25t http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia. On 13/11/2011 4:01 PM, oliver wrote: > hi, all. > > I've got the car together and running after many, many years (I received it in > kit form) and I'm trying to get readings on the gauges. > > I think the wiring is right, but of course who knows, right? I'm not sure if > the sending units work either. > > if the gauge sits on a reading and doesn't move when connected, its probably > broken, right? > > if I connect the multi meter between the sending unit and the voltage > stabilizer, should I get a changing reading as the engine warms up and the > temperature or oil pressure changes? for the gas gauge I've got to pull the > sending unit and move it, but I'm confused on the measurement - am I measuring > volts? resistance? what should I set the resistance to on the meter? > > thanks! > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on.net ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com From tputland at charter.net Mon Nov 14 16:37:15 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:37:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] engine harness question Message-ID: <60a57bf4.62b0a.133a4711a19.Webtop.45@charter.net> Can someone with a 68 please tell me if there are wires for side marker lights that are (obviously) unused but still there as part of the harness? Thanks tim From mark at dealermats.com Mon Nov 14 17:05:11 2011 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:05:11 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] engine harness question In-Reply-To: <60a57bf4.62b0a.133a4711a19.Webtop.45@charter.net> References: <60a57bf4.62b0a.133a4711a19.Webtop.45@charter.net> Message-ID: <72C044A2-8A88-4BCF-9B08-1FEA44A3D521@dealermats.com> There are in a 65, have to assume they are on a 68 as the home market cars had the lights, can't imagine they had 2 different harnesses Sent from my iPhone On Nov 14, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Tim wrote: > Can someone with a 68 please tell me if there are wires for side marker > lights that are (obviously) unused but still there as part of the > harness? > > Thanks > > tim > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/mark at dealermats.com From tputland at charter.net Mon Nov 14 17:14:18 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:14:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] engine harness question Message-ID: <41782d6f.63f3a.133a4930615.Webtop.49@charter.net> Mark Dent said: "as the home market cars had the lights, can't imagine they had 2 different harnesses" Exactly what I was wondering. Thanks! Tim From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net Tue Nov 15 21:22:09 2011 From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 21:22:09 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Roadsters] Dan & Sue Garrison are you out there??? Message-ID: <14782641.1321417330149.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Dan or Sue, or if anyone knows their email address, please contact me off list. Thanks, Dewey From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net Wed Nov 16 09:44:21 2011 From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:44:21 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: Dan & Sue Garrison are you out there??? Thanks to all that responded Message-ID: <5142897.1321461861283.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Thanks, I now have their email address. Dewey -----Forwarded Message----- >From: Dewey Hahlbohm >Sent: Nov 15, 2011 9:22 PM >To: Datsun List >Subject: Dan & Sue Garrison are you out there??? > >Dan or Sue, or if anyone knows their email address, please contact me off list. Thanks, Dewey From tputland at charter.net Thu Nov 17 16:21:51 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:21:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] block & crank storage Message-ID: <31cbda4a.8a2ad.133b3d61460.Webtop.47@charter.net> Hi all. I picked up my block, crank and all the other lower end bits from the machinist today. I now need to oil to prevent rust over winter as assembly most likely wont start until spring. i read somewhere (and now can't find the info) about a fogger (?) to spray the cylindar bores to prevent rust. Someone out there must know what i am talking about.... ter Also, is plain motor oil ok for the rods and what not else or is there something better recommended for this? One more: block painting....i need to paint the block still and it is now to cold so i will have to wait until spring. i already have some rust on the out side but have been told that modern block paint will be fine over minor surface rust. Is this true? What is a better (or the best) block paint out there that I can get for this situation? Now to start aquiring head the bits!! Thanks all!! Tim From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Thu Nov 17 17:00:16 2011 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (cour.jpeg at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:00:16 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] block & crank storage In-Reply-To: <31cbda4a.8a2ad.133b3d61460.Webtop.47@charter.net> References: <31cbda4a.8a2ad.133b3d61460.Webtop.47@charter.net> Message-ID: <1143355414-1321574417-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1004324670-@b11.c10.bise6.blackberry> You can get fogging spray anywhere they sell lawn tractors, snow blowers, mulchers and other small engine equipment. For that crank and engine bits, I recommend something with more hang time than fogging spray. We live near the Chesapeake Bay and I use something the marine stores carry called Boeshield T-9. Supposedly Boeing developed for aeronautical parts protection. It sprays on and 'dries' to a thin wax-like surface. Remove with gasoline or any solvent when time to use. I see it for sale on-line, check it out. Save the paint until it's +60 degs outside again. Use the T-9 meanwhile. Paul Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: Tim Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:21:51 To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] block & crank storage Hi all. I picked up my block, crank and all the other lower end bits from the machinist today. I now need to oil to prevent rust over winter as assembly most likely wont start until spring. i read somewhere (and now can't find the info) about a fogger (?) to spray the cylindar bores to prevent rust. Someone out there must know what i am talking about.... ter Also, is plain motor oil ok for the rods and what not else or is there something better recommended for this? One more: block painting....i need to paint the block still and it is now to cold so i will have to wait until spring. i already have some rust on the out side but have been told that modern block paint will be fine over minor surface rust. Is this true? What is a better (or the best) block paint out there that I can get for this situation? Now to start aquiring head the bits!! Thanks all!! Tim ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com From tomuo at comcast.net Sat Nov 19 14:31:00 2011 From: tomuo at comcast.net (Tom Duffy) Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 13:31:00 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] engine harness question In-Reply-To: <60a57bf4.62b0a.133a4711a19.Webtop.45@charter.net> References: <60a57bf4.62b0a.133a4711a19.Webtop.45@charter.net> Message-ID: <4EC82014.8060300@comcast.net> Yes, my '68 has a couple of unconnected wires behind the rear lights. Tom. On 2011/11/14 15:37, Tim wrote: > Can someone with a 68 please tell me if there are wires for side marker > lights that are (obviously) unused but still there as part of the > harness? > > Thanks > > tim > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tomuo at comcast.net From RWM at RWMann.com Sat Nov 19 14:51:38 2011 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 16:51:38 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] --> Re: engine harness question In-Reply-To: <4EC82014.8060300@comcast.net> References: <60a57bf4.62b0a.133a4711a19.Webtop.45@charter.net> <4EC82014.8060300@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4EC824EA.6010007@RWMann.com> Front and rear, on mine. On 11/19/2011 4:31 PM, Tom Duffy wrote: > Yes, my '68 has a couple of unconnected wires behind the rear lights. > > Tom. > > On 2011/11/14 15:37, Tim wrote: >> Can someone with a 68 please tell me if there are wires for side marker >> lights that are (obviously) unused but still there as part of the >> harness? >> >> Thanks >> >> tim From tpsmithstl at yahoo.com Wed Nov 23 12:06:42 2011 From: tpsmithstl at yahoo.com (tpsmithstl at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 13:06:42 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Crank Pulley Message-ID: <0359D92F-C83E-4171-A1D1-F30395F7E7DC@yahoo.com> Can anyone tell me what is the best way to stop the engine from turning (in car) while you torque the crank bolt (143ft-lb)? From tputland at charter.net Wed Nov 23 12:14:32 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 14:14:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] Crank Pulley Message-ID: <5ad69db6.c690e.133d1d9cecd.Webtop.44@charter.net> Put it in gear? Tim On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 1:06 PM, tpsmithstl at yahoo.com wrote: > Can anyone tell me what is the best way to stop the engine from > turning (in > car) while you torque the crank bolt (143ft-lb)? > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From tputland at charter.net Wed Nov 23 12:16:32 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 14:16:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] Crank Pulley Message-ID: <6e40d12b.c6968.133d1dba597.Webtop.44@charter.net> Or is the engine out of the car? On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Tim wrote: > Put it in gear? > > Tim > > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 1:06 PM, tpsmithstl at yahoo.com wrote: > >> Can anyone tell me what is the best way to stop the engine from >> turning (in >> car) while you torque the crank bolt (143ft-lb)? >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From rksmith46 at hotmail.com Wed Nov 23 13:23:26 2011 From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 15:23:26 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Crank Pulley In-Reply-To: <0359D92F-C83E-4171-A1D1-F30395F7E7DC@yahoo.com> References: <0359D92F-C83E-4171-A1D1-F30395F7E7DC@yahoo.com> Message-ID: hi perry, i would put the shifter in 4 th gear and set the emerg. brk. or have someone hold the brks. on while you tighten the bolt. if you still cant get the torque high enough, put red lock tite on the threads and get it as tight as you can. it will hold, ok. bob smith, ohio. > > > From: tpsmithstl at yahoo.com > Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 13:06:42 -0600 > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Crank Pulley > > Can anyone tell me what is the best way to stop the engine from turning (in > car) while you torque the crank bolt (143ft-lb)? > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rksmith46 at hotmail.com From sandhoff at csus.edu Wed Nov 23 13:35:25 2011 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:35:25 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Crank Pulley In-Reply-To: References: <0359D92F-C83E-4171-A1D1-F30395F7E7DC@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4ECCE88D.11369.C02823@localhost> > if you still cant get the torque high enough, put red lock tite on > the threads and get it as tight as you can. Ummm, this assumes you're never, ever taking it apart again, right? Doesn't red loctite require heating to 500 degrees to break the bond? -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From rksmith46 at hotmail.com Wed Nov 23 14:09:31 2011 From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 16:09:31 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Crank Pulley In-Reply-To: <4ECCE88D.11369.C02823@localhost> References: <0359D92F-C83E-4171-A1D1-F30395F7E7DC@yahoo.com>, <4ECCE88D.11369.C02823@localhost> Message-ID: hi john, well ,you are probably right on the temp. thing. but ,in practice, ive never had trouble loosening some thing ive put red loctite on-- with the exception of very small screws, which some times break off. again, ive never had trouble loosening any bolts or nuts , 8mm,5/16 or bigger. hopefully putting the car in gear and holding the brakes will work ok. bob smith > From: sandhoff at csus.edu > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:35:25 -0800 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Crank Pulley > > > if you still cant get the torque high enough, put red lock tite on > > the threads and get it as tight as you can. > > Ummm, this assumes you're never, ever taking it apart again, right? > Doesn't red loctite require heating to 500 degrees to break the bond? > > -- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rksmith46 at hotmail.com From rabush2000 at hotmail.com Wed Nov 23 17:21:07 2011 From: rabush2000 at hotmail.com (Richard Bush) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:21:07 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Canvas top In-Reply-To: <0359D92F-C83E-4171-A1D1-F30395F7E7DC@yahoo.com> References: <0359D92F-C83E-4171-A1D1-F30395F7E7DC@yahoo.com> Message-ID: > Greetings, I have recently re-installed my canvas top and note that it has shrunk. Whereas the bar fits on the bar, most of the snaps don't. Is it possible to stretch it out by wetting it or am I looking for another top? Best, Rick Richard Bush cell: 512 574 8081 From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Wed Nov 23 19:57:48 2011 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (cour.jpeg at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 02:57:48 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Canvas top Message-ID: <566972893-1322103469-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-284333813-@b11.c10.bise6.blackberry> Do you really have a canvas, not vinyl top? I haven't had any luck stretching vinyl, my only experience. ------Original Message------ From: Richard Bush Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net To: tpsmithstl at yahoo.com Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Canvas top Sent: 23 Nov 2011 19:21 > Greetings, I have recently re-installed my canvas top and note that it has shrunk. Whereas the bar fits on the bar, most of the snaps don't. Is it possible to stretch it out by wetting it or am I looking for another top? Best, Rick Richard Bush cell: 512 574 8081 ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg From aultgc at att.net Wed Nov 23 20:27:17 2011 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 21:27:17 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Crank Pulley References: <0359D92F-C83E-4171-A1D1-F30395F7E7DC@yahoo.com> <4ECCE88D.11369.C02823@localhost> Message-ID: <807520D268DA42E793AEACC9214DF7EE@gaxp1> John, My personal experience wth Loctite Red is that it holds very well, but parts assembled with it can be taken apart without heat. Blue is even weaker. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "John F Sandhoff" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Crank Pulley >> if you still cant get the torque high enough, put red lock tite on >> the threads and get it as tight as you can. > > Ummm, this assumes you're never, ever taking it apart again, right? > Doesn't red loctite require heating to 500 degrees to break the bond? > > -- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From aultgc at att.net Wed Nov 23 21:05:40 2011 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 22:05:40 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Canvas top References: <0359D92F-C83E-4171-A1D1-F30395F7E7DC@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Richard, I'd try wetting the outside of the top, then put it up and pull it into place if you can. If that doesn't work StayFast makes a fine product. Are you still working in the Middle East, or are you back in Texas? Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Bush" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 6:21 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Canvas top >> Greetings, > > I have recently re-installed my canvas top and note that it has shrunk. > Whereas the bar fits on the bar, most of the snaps don't. > > Is it possible to stretch it out by wetting it or am I looking for another > top? > > Best, > > Rick > > Richard Bush > cell: 512 574 8081 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Nov 24 00:27:41 2011 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 23:27:41 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Black Friday Sale at FutoFab (11/26/11 from 10am - 2pm, ET) Message-ID: <005901ccaa7a$8d844650$a88cd2f0$@net> From: bluebird510 at googlegroups.com [mailto:bluebird510 at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Patten Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 5:31 AM To: BB List Subject: [Bluebird510] Black Friday Sale at FutoFab (11/26/11 from10am - 2pm, ET) Black Friday Sale for Car Guys at FutoFab* When was the last time you saw a deal for car guys on Black Friday? Maybe never, well FutoFab has changed that because car guys need a break too! This Friday, November 25th between 10:00am and 2:00pm ET anything you buy thru FutoFab's online order service will be 20% 0ff. Anything that you can put it into our virtual shopping cart and make payment on line for will save you 20%! Load up your cart today, check out between 10am & 2pm (ET) on Friday and save 20%. Here are some of the savings that you can get. Datsun 510 & 240Z Spooks, orange line construction; Regularly $140 - Black Friday Price $112/ea Datsun 510 Bumpers, front or rear, orange line construction; regularly $175 - Black Friday Price $140/ea VTO Retro 4 wheels, 15x7 with black or silver spokes; regularly $180 - Black Friday price $144/ea Alternator Adjusters for Datsun L series engines; regularly $28.50 - Black Friday Price $22.50/ea And more, more, more! *Suspension parts are limited to stock on hand. All other parts are unlimited supply. Composite body parts are made to order and may require some longer leadtime depending on demand. -- FutoFab, LLC Dave Patten 199 Strak Hwy So Dunbarton, NH 03046 Web - www.FutoFab.com email - Dave at FutoFab.com From funkaholik at yahoo.com Thu Nov 24 20:33:59 2011 From: funkaholik at yahoo.com (Erik Miller) Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 19:33:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] More Black Friday for car guys Message-ID: <1322192039.74732.YahooMailClassic@web65819.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Eastwood also has a big sale on their site this weekend. Varying % off plus free shipping. I just ordered some of their chassis black paint and undercoating. From gsglasgow at comcast.net Thu Nov 24 23:23:58 2011 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 22:23:58 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Crank Pulley In-Reply-To: <0359D92F-C83E-4171-A1D1-F30395F7E7DC@yahoo.com> References: <0359D92F-C83E-4171-A1D1-F30395F7E7DC@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003b01ccab3a$d18af720$74a0e560$@net> Seems to me the last time I tried that (which was MANY years ago), the problem was that the engine would twist in the motor mounts. Thinking about it now, would it be possible to put a piece of 2x2 or 2x4 between the cylinder head and the inner fender to keep the engine from moving so much? Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of tpsmithstl at yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:07 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Crank Pulley Can anyone tell me what is the best way to stop the engine from turning (in car) while you torque the crank bolt (143ft-lb)? ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gsglasgow at comcast.net From dooger at wildblue.net Fri Nov 25 20:23:02 2011 From: dooger at wildblue.net (Wes Jones) Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 22:23:02 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Crank Pulley In-Reply-To: <0359D92F-C83E-4171-A1D1-F30395F7E7DC@yahoo.com> References: <0359D92F-C83E-4171-A1D1-F30395F7E7DC@yahoo.com> Message-ID: If the engine is out of the car one way to "lock it up" is remove a spark plug then feed in a quantity of 1/4" cotton clothesline rope. That'll stop the piston dead but cushion the pressure against the head. Best, wes On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 14:06:42 -0500, wrote: > Can anyone tell me what is the best way to stop the engine from turning > (in > car) while you torque the crank bolt (143ft-lb)? > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/dooger at wildblue.net > > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From tputland at charter.net Sat Nov 26 09:21:52 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 11:21:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] OT(non Roadster) tire question Message-ID: <6a77d5df.d8e79.133e0aed059.Webtop.47@charter.net> More from the clueless one is southern WI...... I want to put snow tires on my S10 (not FWD) and my wife's avalon. I can't afford eight tires. I was thinking of putting two on each of the drive wheels on each vehicle. The avalon is (front wheel drive) 205 65R15 and the S10 is 205 75R15. My question is, if I buy four tires that are 205 75R16 (and get the four tire purchase discount), can I get away with putting these slightly bigger profile tires on the Toyota? Thanks! I revert back to an old signature.... Still cluelss but always learning Tim From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Sat Nov 26 09:46:58 2011 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (cour.jpeg at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 16:46:58 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] OT(non Roadster) tire question In-Reply-To: <6a77d5df.d8e79.133e0aed059.Webtop.47@charter.net> References: <6a77d5df.d8e79.133e0aed059.Webtop.47@charter.net> Message-ID: <1808914482-1322326017-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1024774390-@b11.c10.bise6.blackberry> The killer is the stated rim size. Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: Tim Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 11:21:52 To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] OT(non Roadster) tire question More from the clueless one is southern WI...... I want to put snow tires on my S10 (not FWD) and my wife's avalon. I can't afford eight tires. I was thinking of putting two on each of the drive wheels on each vehicle. The avalon is (front wheel drive) 205 65R15 and the S10 is 205 75R15. My question is, if I buy four tires that are 205 75R16 (and get the four tire purchase discount), can I get away with putting these slightly bigger profile tires on the Toyota? Thanks! I revert back to an old signature.... Still cluelss but always learning Tim ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com From tputland at charter.net Sat Nov 26 09:59:14 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 11:59:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] OT(non Roadster) tire question Message-ID: <43a83b23.d9242.133e0d103a9.Webtop.47@charter.net> Now I am confused I guess. The rims are the same size...... On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 10:46 AM, cour.jpeg at gmail.com wrote: > The killer is the stated rim size. > > Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim > Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 > 11:21:52 To: datsun-roadsters: > autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] OT(non Roadster) tire question > > More from the clueless one is southern WI...... > > I want to put snow tires on my S10 (not FWD) and my wife's avalon. I > can't afford eight tires. I was thinking of putting two on each of the > drive wheels on each vehicle. The avalon is (front wheel drive) 205 > 65R15 and the S10 is 205 75R15. > > My question is, if I buy four tires that are 205 75R16 (and get the > four tire purchase discount), can I get away with putting these > slightly bigger profile tires on the Toyota? > > Thanks! > > I revert back to an old signature.... > > Still cluelss but always learning > > Tim > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com From dooger at wildblue.net Sat Nov 26 10:30:55 2011 From: dooger at wildblue.net (Wes Jones) Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 12:30:55 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT(non Roadster) tire question In-Reply-To: <43a83b23.d9242.133e0d103a9.Webtop.47@charter.net> References: <43a83b23.d9242.133e0d103a9.Webtop.47@charter.net> Message-ID: In your last sentence you put 16 for the diameter. ;-) Best, wes On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 11:59:14 -0500, Tim wrote: > Now I am confused I guess. The rims are the same size...... > > > On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 10:46 AM, cour.jpeg at gmail.com wrote: > >> The killer is the stated rim size. >> >> Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tim >> Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 >> 11:21:52 To: datsun-roadsters: >> autox.team.net >> Subject: [Roadsters] OT(non Roadster) tire question >> >> More from the clueless one is southern WI...... >> >> I want to put snow tires on my S10 (not FWD) and my wife's avalon. I >> can't afford eight tires. I was thinking of putting two on each of the >> drive wheels on each vehicle. The avalon is (front wheel drive) 205 >> 65R15 and the S10 is 205 75R15. >> >> My question is, if I buy four tires that are 205 75R16 (and get the >> four tire purchase discount), can I get away with putting these >> slightly bigger profile tires on the Toyota? >> >> Thanks! >> >> I revert back to an old signature.... >> >> Still cluelss but always learning >> >> Tim >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/dooger at wildblue.net > > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From aultgc at att.net Sat Nov 26 12:42:50 2011 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 13:42:50 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] OT(non Roadster) tire question References: <43a83b23.d9242.133e0d103a9.Webtop.47@charter.net> Message-ID: <5074DB7075AD468594952A4FB23FE7C1@gaxp1> Tim, Tire rack can offer good advice, and maybe a pretty good deal on the tires. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" ; Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT(non Roadster) tire question > Now I am confused I guess. The rims are the same size...... > > > On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 10:46 AM, cour.jpeg at gmail.com wrote: > >> The killer is the stated rim size. >> >> Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tim >> Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 >> 11:21:52 To: datsun-roadsters: >> autox.team.net >> Subject: [Roadsters] OT(non Roadster) tire question >> >> More from the clueless one is southern WI...... >> >> I want to put snow tires on my S10 (not FWD) and my wife's avalon. I >> can't afford eight tires. I was thinking of putting two on each of the >> drive wheels on each vehicle. The avalon is (front wheel drive) 205 65R15 >> and the S10 is 205 75R15. >> >> My question is, if I buy four tires that are 205 75R16 (and get the four >> tire purchase discount), can I get away with putting these slightly >> bigger profile tires on the Toyota? >> >> Thanks! >> >> I revert back to an old signature.... >> >> Still cluelss but always learning >> >> Tim >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net Sat Nov 26 13:16:58 2011 From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm) Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 13:16:58 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Roadsters] OT(non Roadster) tire question Message-ID: <14295143.1322338618988.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi Tim & all, regarding single axle snow tires, this approach is not recommended in Montana. Rear wheel drive vehicles with snow tires only in the rear is discouraged but not prohibited, 4 snow tires are recommended. With front wheel drive vehicles the rules are more strict. Front wheel drive vehicles require snow tires or studded snow tires on all 4 wheels. MOST, if not all, tire stores require that you put snow tires on all 4, and will not mount 2 on the drive axle. ALL tire stores require studded snows on all 4 wheels. They will not mount 2 studded snows on a front wheel drive car. I do not know if this is law, I do not think it is. I believe it is policy of the tire dealers. This policy/requirement stems from a law suit about 20-25 years ago. A front wheel drive car with studs on the front only spun around with serious injuries/death, attributed to not having studs on all 4 wheels. Subsequent to that lawsuit, you cannot get studded snow tires mounted on just the drive axle in Montana. I believe this applies in most states in the Northwest, if not all states. So, from a safety perspective, single axle snow tires are not recommended. However, what you do with the tires after they leave the store is of course your choice. Good luck, and have fun in the snow, I know we will this winter. Dewey -----Original Message----- >From: Tim >Sent: Nov 26, 2011 9:21 AM >To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" >Subject: [Roadsters] OT(non Roadster) tire question > >More from the clueless one is southern WI...... > >I want to put snow tires on my S10 (not FWD) and my wife's avalon. I >can't afford eight tires. I was thinking of putting two on each of the >drive wheels on each vehicle. The avalon is (front wheel drive) 205 >65R15 and the S10 is 205 75R15. > >My question is, if I buy four tires that are 205 75R16 (and get the four >tire purchase discount), can I get away with putting these slightly >bigger profile tires on the Toyota? > >Thanks! > >I revert back to an old signature.... > >Still cluelss but always learning > >Tim >________________________________________ > >datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/hahlbohmd at earthlink.net From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Sat Nov 26 17:49:00 2011 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 16:49:00 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] OT(non Roadster) tire question In-Reply-To: <14295143.1322338618988.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <14295143.1322338618988.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4E334490-23DB-49F5-9440-058C41E08F7F@sbcglobal.net> In limited sets of circumstances (like straight-line braking), having better traction in front than in the rear can lead to a spin. If the rear axle loses traction while the front still has grip, the rear of the vehicle is unbraked and therefore going faster (or wanting to go faster) than the front. If there is no imbalance in the forces acting on the vehicle everything would be fine, but an imbalance left or right of the long axis of the vehicle will cause the rear axle to deviate from a straight line and try to pass the front axle. Of course, since they are attached to each other, what happens is that the vehicle spins. Because of the high likelihood of encountering marginal traction conditions in snow country, I can see why this policy is a good idea, but I don't go for it in normal road conditions, especially on FWD vehicles, where I think that the benefits of maximum traction on the powered wheels outweigh the liabilities in the limited case of straight line braking. Gary K. McCormick San JosC), CA Sent from my iPod On Nov 26, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Dewey Hahlbohm wrote: > Hi Tim & all, regarding single axle snow tires, this approach is not recommended in Montana. Rear wheel drive vehicles with snow tires only in the rear is discouraged but not prohibited, 4 snow tires are recommended. > > With front wheel drive vehicles the rules are more strict. Front wheel drive vehicles require snow tires or studded snow tires on all 4 wheels. MOST, if not all, tire stores require that you put snow tires on all 4, and will not mount 2 on the drive axle. ALL tire stores require studded snows on all 4 wheels. They will not mount 2 studded snows on a front wheel drive car. > > I do not know if this is law, I do not think it is. I believe it is policy of the tire dealers. > > This policy/requirement stems from a law suit about 20-25 years ago. A front wheel drive car with studs on the front only spun around with serious injuries/death, attributed to not having studs on all 4 wheels. Subsequent to that lawsuit, you cannot get studded snow tires mounted on just the drive axle in Montana. I believe this applies in most states in the Northwest, if not all states. > > So, from a safety perspective, single axle snow tires are not recommended. However, what you do with the tires after they leave the store is of course your choice. > > Good luck, and have fun in the snow, I know we will this winter. Dewey > > > -----Original Message----- >> From: Tim >> Sent: Nov 26, 2011 9:21 AM >> To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" >> Subject: [Roadsters] OT(non Roadster) tire question >> >> More from the clueless one is southern WI...... >> >> I want to put snow tires on my S10 (not FWD) and my wife's avalon. I >> can't afford eight tires. I was thinking of putting two on each of the >> drive wheels on each vehicle. The avalon is (front wheel drive) 205 >> 65R15 and the S10 is 205 75R15. >> >> My question is, if I buy four tires that are 205 75R16 (and get the four >> tire purchase discount), can I get away with putting these slightly >> bigger profile tires on the Toyota? >> >> Thanks! >> >> I revert back to an old signature.... >> >> Still cluelss but always learning >> >> Tim >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/hahlbohmd at earthlink.ne t > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Sun Nov 27 08:47:52 2011 From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon) Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 07:47:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Crank Pulley In-Reply-To: <807520D268DA42E793AEACC9214DF7EE@gaxp1> References: <0359D92F-C83E-4171-A1D1-F30395F7E7DC@yahoo.com> <4ECCE88D.11369.C02823@localhost> <807520D268DA42E793AEACC9214DF7EE@gaxp1> Message-ID: <1322408872.66060.YahooMailNeo@web121419.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Green is interesting, it seeps in, you use it on stuff you have to locktite after you assemble it. Jim ________________________________ From: Gary and Cindy Ault To: John F Sandhoff ; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Crank Pulley John, My personal experience wth Loctite Red is that it holds very well, but parts assembled with it can be taken apart without heat. Blue is even weaker. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "John F Sandhoff" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Crank Pulley >> if you still cant get the torque high enough, put red lock tite on >> the threads and get it as tight as you can. > > Ummm, this assumes you're never, ever taking it apart again, right? > Doesn't red loctite require heating to 500 degrees to break the bond? > > -- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com From tputland at charter.net Tue Nov 29 05:50:29 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 07:50:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] OT(non Roadster) tire question Message-ID: <528b45f7.9009.133ef605a89.Webtop.44@charter.net> HI all. Thanks for input. And also for not making me feel like too much of an idiot. Having driven with snows on the just back of my 2WD truck a couple winters ago with no issues, I didn't think this was an issue and I didn't have any issues---(luckily!). To reply to a few suggestions I received: Chains--I don't think chains are allowed here but really are not necessary very often as they do a decent job with snow removal. Studs--I am just about 100% certain these are not allowed and again, snow removal is pretty good. One vehicle--I wish. My schedule and the wife's schedule are too different to do this. Full set of good all weather tires--probably how I am going to go for Connie's car as four snow tires now leads to the need for another full set of regular tires in the spring for her car which means more money more money more money. Tire Rack--Yes, this is who I deal with and will call today. Thanks again all! Still cluelss but always learning Tim From lee.ehinger at frontier.com Tue Nov 29 06:56:10 2011 From: lee.ehinger at frontier.com (Lee Ehinger) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 08:56:10 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Real nice Ebay 2000 - reserve not meet - $14,600 Message-ID: <415247D4B0A642F383FD5CFBCA1514AD@ehingerhome> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem &item=320800589148+&viewitem= not mine - was on BAT http://bringatrailer.com/2011/11/28/bat-exclusive-clean-1968-datsun-2000-roa dster/ Lee Ehinger Ft Wayne IN - rain turning to snow up to 5" From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Tue Nov 29 08:22:21 2011 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 07:22:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Real nice Ebay 2000 - reserve not meet - $14,600 In-Reply-To: <415247D4B0A642F383FD5CFBCA1514AD@ehingerhome> Message-ID: <1322580141.97474.YahooMailClassic@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Was fun reading the comments on the white BAT Roadster -- esp. loved this one from someone named perry: "Ibve had both Datsuns & MGbs. Ibve used Datsuns to fetch parts for MGbs. Never the other way around." Gary McCormick San Jose, CA '70 2000 SRL311-13291 --- On Tue, 11/29/11, Lee Ehinger wrote: From: Lee Ehinger Subject: [Roadsters] Real nice Ebay 2000 - reserve not meet - $14,600 To: "'Datsun'" Date: Tuesday, November 29, 2011, 5:56 AM http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem &item=320800589148+&viewitem= not mine - was on BAT http://bringatrailer.com/2011/11/28/bat-exclusive-clean-1968-datsun-2000-roa dster/ Lee Ehinger Ft Wayne IN - rain turning to snow up to 5" ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net From member at linkedin.com Tue Nov 29 10:39:01 2011 From: member at linkedin.com (Campbell McDougall via LinkedIn) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:39:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn Message-ID: <670857342.68868199.1322588341289.JavaMail.app@ela4-app0129.prod> LinkedIn ------------ Campbell McDougall requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn: ------------------------------------------ Datsun Roadster, I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Campbell Accept invitation from Campbell McDougall http://www.linkedin.com/e/-i8ng1o-gvl6y7fq-4u/Gi15MJviM-cRhLsWZ1ibVV6j1___ijs05pcE2V2iMNQF1Cg/blk/I176106643_115/6lColZJrmZznQNdhjRQnOpBtn9QfmhBt71BoSd1p65Lr6lOfPkNclYPd3oSc34SdP59bTlfrScNgANxbPcQd30OdPkUe38LrCBxbOYWrSlI/EML_comm_afe/?hs=false&tok=1Q4D7If0I3mB01 View invitation from Campbell McDougall http://www.linkedin.com/e/-i8ng1o-gvl6y7fq-4u/Gi15MJviM-cRhLsWZ1ibVV6j1___ijs05pcE2V2iMNQF1Cg/blk/I176106643_115/dj4NnPcQdzoMcjoTckALqnpPbOYWrSlI/svi/?hs=false&tok=2cbvqfdr43mB01 -- (c) 2011, LinkedIn Corporation From tputland at charter.net Tue Nov 29 10:46:16 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:46:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn Message-ID: <24f3296.e39c.133f06f28d3.Webtop.45@charter.net> I really wish people would check the setting of this garbage before they opt into a site and send this garbage out. roadster content: Getting ready to start ordering head parts for my stroker. venting in WI Tim On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Campbell McDougall via LinkedIn wrote: > LinkedIn > ------------ > > > > > Campbell McDougall requested to add you as a connection on > LinkedIn: > > ------------------------------------------ > > Datsun Roadster, > > I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. > > - Campbell > > Accept invitation from Campbell McDougall > > http://www.linkedin.com/e/-i8ng1o-gvl6y7fq-4u/Gi15MJviM-cRhLsWZ1ibVV6j1___ijs05pcE2V2iMNQF1Cg/blk/I176106643_115/6lColZJrmZznQNdhjRQnOpBtn9QfmhBt71BoSd1p65Lr6lOfPkNclYPd3oSc34SdP59bTlfrScNgANxbPcQd30OdPkUe38LrCBxbOYWrSlI/EML_comm_afe/?hs=false&tok=1Q4D7If0I3mB01 > > View invitation from Campbell McDougall > > http://www.linkedin.com/e/-i8ng1o-gvl6y7fq-4u/Gi15MJviM-cRhLsWZ1ibVV6j1___ijs05pcE2V2iMNQF1Cg/blk/I176106643_115/dj4NnPcQdzoMcjoTckALqnpPbOYWrSlI/svi/?hs=false&tok=2cbvqfdr43mB01 > > -- > (c) 2011, LinkedIn Corporation > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From gjhgerding at tconl.com Wed Nov 30 21:30:56 2011 From: gjhgerding at tconl.com (Gary) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 22:30:56 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] fuel sending unit In-Reply-To: <5074DB7075AD468594952A4FB23FE7C1@gaxp1> References: <43a83b23.d9242.133e0d103a9.Webtop.47@charter.net> <5074DB7075AD468594952A4FB23FE7C1@gaxp1> Message-ID: <4ED70300.8080309@tconl.com> Does anyone know where I might find a usable fuel sending unit for my 67.5 1600? Thanks