From 9laser3 at bright.net  Tue Mar  1 03:25:16 2011
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 05:25:16 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 4x4 "Datsun" anybody??
In-Reply-To: <344307.68458.qm@web33502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <000701cbd7fa$f61d1cd0$e2575670$@net>

  That must have been a long cold winter!


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Vince
Strazzabosco
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 9:40 PM
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: [Roadsters] 4x4 "Datsun" anybody??

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ank/cto/2168090124.html
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From graemes at internode.on.net  Tue Mar  1 04:53:18 2011
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling)
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 22:23:18 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] Solex carbs.
In-Reply-To: <20110301064551.C3SIN.11372378.root@mp08>
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On 1/03/2011 10:15 PM, Tim wrote:
> I'd be interested in a copy of those if it didn't cost much (anything) since I do not yet have solex carbs.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tim
>
> ---- Graeme Suckling<graemes at internode.on.net>  wrote:
>
> =============
> On 1/03/2011 9:01 AM, Sam Conway wrote:
>> What would be awesome is if there was a similar description for the 44mm
>> Solex Carbs
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Samuel Conway
>> National Quality and Process Engineer
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
>> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
>> Keith0alan at aol.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2011 3:03 AM
>> To: tumorrow at msn.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Balancing SU carbs
>>
>> Check this link out.
>>
>>
>> _http://datsunroadsterranch.com/_ (http://datsunroadsterranch.com/)
>>
>> keith "the not totally out of touch carb guy" williams
>>
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 2/27/2011 5:34:39 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
>> tumorrow at msn.com writes:
>>
>> I have a  '69 (I think!) SPL311.  What do I need to do to balance the
>> carbs?
>> Any  special tools?  Anyone have procedures and recommendations on what
>> to get to do the  balancing?
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> I have a couple of e-books relating to the Mikuni/Solex carbs concerning
> reconditioning and tuning.
> If you want a copy let me know.
>
Hi Tim,
I have posted the Solex and Mikuni Solex Manuals @ 
http://rapidshare.com/users/WL2R5H/0

-- 
Regards,
Graeme Suckling
1965 SP310 Datsun Sports
1971 P510 Datsun 1600
1972 PL510 Datsun 1600 LHD
1973 HS30 Datsun 240Z
1984 B120 Datsun 1200 utility
1993 ECR33 Skyline GTS25t
http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza
Adelaide
South Australia.

From chalsted at comcast.net  Tue Mar  1 05:24:05 2011
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 12:24:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] OT- MGB GT
Message-ID: <245944110.1113798.1298982245685.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

as many of us play with cars other than Datsun roadsters, thought I'd mention this one...plan is to put it on ebay next week if not already spoken for 

'70 BGT 
chrome bumpers, split rear bumper 
73k original miles 
has overdrive 
nice interior 
very good body- paint is faded 
I drove it home around 40 miles the other day 
pix available 

hoping it will bring $3500 on ebay, would consider offers at this time. please contact me off list if interested. I haven't seen an unrestored MGB with this nice a body in a long time. 

Craig 

From tputland at charter.net  Tue Mar  1 06:32:25 2011
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 5:32:25 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] OT- MGB GT
In-Reply-To: <245944110.1113798.1298982245685.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20110301083225.LNN1J.11372511.root@mp08>

BLASPHEMY!!!    ;-)


---- chalsted at comcast.net wrote: 

=============
as many of us play with cars other than Datsun roadsters, thought I'd mention this one...plan is to put it on ebay next week if not already spoken for 

'70 BGT 
chrome bumpers, split rear bumper 
73k original miles 
has overdrive 
nice interior 
very good body- paint is faded 
I drove it home around 40 miles the other day 
pix available 

hoping it will bring $3500 on ebay, would consider offers at this time. please contact me off list if interested. I haven't seen an unrestored MGB with this nice a body in a long time. 

Craig

From chalsted at comcast.net  Tue Mar  1 06:34:38 2011
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 13:34:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] 20k original mile '68 1600 fs in Virginia
Message-ID: <429524736.1115781.1298986478979.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

I have a 68 1600 with 20,809 original miles on it that I'm planning to list on ebay. I do not have a title for it so will be listing it as a parts car- came out of upstate NY so never had a title in the first place. windshield frame and windshield broken off, will provide a frame with the car but extra for a good windshield. dash is very good, center armrest center console is very nice other than the metal part around the ashtray. even the lid is nice. in parts value, think of the price of 4 balljoints...ultra llow mileage engine, trans, differential... body isn't all that bad at all. solid floors, some minimal rear wheelwell arch rust, driver's door dented up a bit. will have a $1500 reserve and $1750 buy it now- talk to me now if you're interested, planning to list this evening for a 5 day auction. pix available 

Craig 

From jblair at surewest.net  Tue Mar  1 07:39:44 2011
From: jblair at surewest.net (The Blairs)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 06:39:44 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 64 Roadster For Sale
Message-ID: <00bd01cbd81e$816f13b0$844d3b10$@net>

Still for sale is my '64 Roadster. I'd like for it to go to someone who
would appreciate these cars. It's a great little car. 

Over the years, I have put a lot of time and energy in the car but quite
frankly, we just don't drive it. 

Below is a partial list of new parts I have put on it.

 

cutch/throw out bearing,  u-joints, all new brake lines, complete end to end
wiring harness, new tach and speedo cables, NEW old Stock Clock (still
works), New door and trunk locks,

new rebuilt z-therapy carbs, header and exhaust system, rear leaf springs,
Re-plated bumpers & Grill, Polished stainless

 

Just installed a brand new original  group 53 battery in it

It's painted a nice shiny red with brown tweed upholstery  

I have the original wheels and hub caps and a brown convertible top, and
some tonneau covers 

Also have a Hard top, which I have never put on the car and is not painted
the color of the car 

Boxes of extra parts and manuals go with it.

I have over 10k in the car and am I am asking 7k or make me a reasonable
offer 

As I said before, I'd love to sell it to a Datsun person, but I want to sell
it so It's going on Craigslist soon

Here is a link to some photos,  

Happy Looking, Joe

http://www.datsunclassifieds.com/showproduct.php/product/5661/title/-2764-ro
adster-for-sale/cat/50

From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Tue Mar  1 08:22:50 2011
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 07:22:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] OT- MGB GT
In-Reply-To: <20110301083225.LNN1J.11372511.root@mp08>
Message-ID: <916191.92034.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Could be worse... could be a Miata.

--- On Tue, 3/1/11, Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:

From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT- MGB GT
To: Datsun-Roadsters at autox.team.net, chalsted at comcast.net
Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 5:32 AM

BLASPHEMY!!!    ;-)


---- chalsted at comcast.net wrote:

=============
as many of us play with cars other than Datsun roadsters, thought I'd mention
this one...plan is to put it on ebay next week if not already spoken for

'70 BGT
chrome bumpers, split rear bumper
73k original miles
has overdrive
nice interior
very good body- paint is faded
I drove it home around 40 miles the other day
pix available

hoping it will bring $3500 on ebay, would consider offers at this time. please
contact me off list if interested. I haven't seen an unrestored MGB with this
nice a body in a long time.

Craig
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From d_kroninger at hotmail.com  Tue Mar  1 11:15:45 2011
From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 12:15:45 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Door sills
Message-ID: <BLU150-w12E959B340399E0E0E9AC59BC10@phx.gbl>

Hey all,

I pulled a few aluminum parts to clean and polish this winter.  The valve
cover and carb domes are done.  I also have the door sill out.  They were
dirty, which I cleaned with water and Comet.  So it is cleaner, but I want to
polish it up.  Since it has the ridges, it is really hard to sand without
distorting it.  Any one have suggestions?

Dan Kroninger
Dairyland Datsun68 1600

From ncoonen at fastbears.com  Tue Mar  1 12:13:01 2011
From: ncoonen at fastbears.com (ncoonen at fastbears.com)
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 14:13:01 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Door sills
In-Reply-To: <BLU150-w12E959B340399E0E0E9AC59BC10@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU150-w12E959B340399E0E0E9AC59BC10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20110301141301.14814tq3k0rt9a9p@webmail.fastbears.com>

Use a paste type aluminum/metal polish. Mother's and Meguiar's have such products (Google them). If you don't want to buy something special for just those pieces, I would try whatever kind of polishing compound you might have on hand. This won't work well if the pieces are badly corroded but otherwise, you'll get a shine. Careful use of fine steel wool will help with corrosion. I would avoid sandpaper at all costs.

Good luck...ned.
'69 Datsun 2000 (still on jack stands)

Quoting Dan Kroninger <d_kroninger at hotmail.com>:

> Hey all,
>
> I pulled a few aluminum parts to clean and polish this winter.  The valve
> cover and carb domes are done.  I also have the door sill out.  They were
> dirty, which I cleaned with water and Comet.  So it is cleaner, but I want to
> polish it up.  Since it has the ridges, it is really hard to sand without
> distorting it.  Any one have suggestions?
>
> Dan Kroninger
> Dairyland Datsun68 1600
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From d_kroninger at hotmail.com  Tue Mar  1 13:01:14 2011
From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 14:01:14 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Door sills
In-Reply-To: <BLU159-ds3B82F411DADAF3C564C1BD0C10@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU150-w12E959B340399E0E0E9AC59BC10@phx.gbl>,
	<BLU159-ds3B82F411DADAF3C564C1BD0C10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU150-w1386B05D79CF2C84C068549BC10@phx.gbl>

I used a scotch brite with the comet for cleaning.  It did not do much for the
luster.  I think they may be to corroded, but we will see.

Thanks everyone!

I will try to get some pics of the valve cover, domes and sills on my facebook
page soon.

Dan

> From: bubwin at mymts.net
> To: d_kroninger at hotmail.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Door sills
> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 13:56:54 -0600
>
> You could try sanding sponges or scotch-brite pads
>
> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Kroninger
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 12:15 PM
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] Door sills
>
> Hey all,
>
> I pulled a few aluminum parts to clean and polish this winter.  The valve
> cover and carb domes are done.  I also have the door sill out.  They were
> dirty, which I cleaned with water and Comet.  So it is cleaner, but I want
> to
> polish it up.  Since it has the ridges, it is really hard to sand without
> distorting it.  Any one have suggestions?
>
> Dan Kroninger
> Dairyland Datsun68 1600
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From u20power67 at hotmail.com  Tue Mar  1 14:20:48 2011
From: u20power67 at hotmail.com (u20power67 at hotmail.com)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 16:20:48 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Door sills
In-Reply-To: <BLU150-w1386B05D79CF2C84C068549BC10@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU150-w12E959B340399E0E0E9AC59BC10@phx.gbl>,
	<BLU159-ds3B82F411DADAF3C564C1BD0C10@phx.gbl>
	<BLU150-w1386B05D79CF2C84C068549BC10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP210AB703A23FF9FDF635F58C6C10@phx.gbl>

I believe the aluminum trim parts are anodized so it will take a lot of  
elbow grease to cut through.   You may try a power ball.  

Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless

-----Original message-----
From: Dan Kroninger <d_kroninger at hotmail.com>
To: bubwin at mymts.net, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 20:01:14 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Door sills

I used a scotch brite with the comet for cleaning.  It did not do much for  
the
luster.  I think they may be to corroded, but we will see.

Thanks everyone!

I will try to get some pics of the valve cover, domes and sills on my  
facebook
page soon.

Dan

> From: bubwin at mymts.net
> To: d_kroninger at hotmail.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Door sills
> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 13:56:54 -0600
>
> You could try sanding sponges or scotch-brite pads
>
> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Kroninger
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 12:15 PM
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] Door sills
>
> Hey all,
>
> I pulled a few aluminum parts to clean and polish this winter.  The valve
> cover and carb domes are done.  I also have the door sill out.  They were
> dirty, which I cleaned with water and Comet.  So it is cleaner, but I want
> to
> polish it up.  Since it has the ridges, it is really hard to sand without
> distorting it.  Any one have suggestions?
>
> Dan Kroninger
> Dairyland Datsun68 1600
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From aultgc at att.net  Tue Mar  1 15:57:46 2011
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 14:57:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] OT- MGB GT
In-Reply-To: <916191.92034.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <916191.92034.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <687411.66097.qm@web180214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

If it were a Miata, then it wouldn't leak oil and/or other vital fluids and
the 
electrics would work.......




________________________________
From:
Gary McCormick <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net>
To: Datsun-Roadsters at autox.team.net;
chalsted at comcast.net; Tim 
<tputland at charter.net>
Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011
9:22:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT- MGB GT

Could be worse... could be a
Miata.

--- On Tue, 3/1/11, Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:

From: Tim
<tputland at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT- MGB GT
To:
Datsun-Roadsters at autox.team.net, chalsted at comcast.net
Date: Tuesday, March 1,
2011, 5:32 AM

BLASPHEMY!!!    ;-)


---- chalsted at comcast.net wrote:
=============
as many of us play with cars other than Datsun roadsters,
thought I'd mention
this one...plan is to put it on ebay next week if not
already spoken for

'70 BGT
chrome bumpers, split rear bumper
73k original
miles
has overdrive
nice interior
very good body- paint is faded
I drove it
home around 40 miles the other day
pix available

hoping it will bring $3500
on ebay, would consider offers at this time. please
contact me off list if
interested. I haven't seen an unrestored MGB with this
nice a body in a long
time.

Craig
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From wrenchorhammer at live.com  Tue Mar  1 16:13:47 2011
From: wrenchorhammer at live.com (Jim In Virginia)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 18:13:47 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Door sills
In-Reply-To: <BLU150-w12E959B340399E0E0E9AC59BC10@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU150-w12E959B340399E0E0E9AC59BC10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU159-w35B38336332D7FBF35E2A7A5C10@phx.gbl>

A bronze wire brush stroked in the same direction as the ridges and bathed in
a comet and water mixture will work well!  Sparingly use a steel wire brush
for bad stains.  If you have a good eye and good aim, you can use a bronze
wire wheel in an electric drill, but lay off the water and comet in that case!
Then go back to wire bruch water and comet for the final touch.

Jim In Virginia

> From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 12:15:45 -0600
> Subject: [Roadsters] Door sills
>
> Hey all,
>
> I pulled a few aluminum parts to clean and polish this winter. The valve
> cover and carb domes are done. I also have the door sill out. They were
> dirty, which I cleaned with water and Comet. So it is cleaner, but I want
to
> polish it up. Since it has the ridges, it is really hard to sand without
> distorting it. Any one have suggestions?
>
> Dan Kroninger
> Dairyland Datsun68 1600

From antonywardle at gmail.com  Tue Mar  1 17:21:47 2011
From: antonywardle at gmail.com (antony wardle)
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:21:47 +1100
Subject: [Roadsters] OT- MGB GT
In-Reply-To: <687411.66097.qm@web180214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <916191.92034.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<687411.66097.qm@web180214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=MZoxDgd5BmN84qKaoQwOJsNR9nyrJ5Jc89v9=@mail.gmail.com>

They look pretty nice too.

Would love to get an MX-5 one day.

kiwi




On 2 March 2011 09:57, Gary and Cindy Ault <aultgc at att.net> wrote:

> If it were a Miata, then it wouldn't leak oil and/or other vital fluids and
> the
> electrics would work.......

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Mar  1 21:10:36 2011
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 20:10:36 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] OT- MGB GT
In-Reply-To: <687411.66097.qm@web180214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <916191.92034.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<687411.66097.qm@web180214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <006c01cbd88f$c9bf9510$5d3ebf30$@net>

The best British sports car ever built is the Miata. <g>

Pete
2002 Limited Edition

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary and Cindy
Ault
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 2:58 PM
To: Gary McCormick; Datsun-Roadsters at autox.team.net; chalsted at comcast.net;
Tim
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT- MGB GT

If it were a Miata, then it wouldn't leak oil and/or other vital fluids and
the electrics would work.......

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Mar  1 21:54:24 2011
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 20:54:24 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Driving Canby Fun 2011 Registration NOW OPEN
Message-ID: <008201cbd895$e7fee700$b7fcb500$@net>

Event is in Canby, Oregon.



Pete



From: bluebirds-request at bluebirds.datsun510.com
[mailto:bluebirds-request at bluebirds.datsun510.com] On Behalf Of
julie at 510coop.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 8:16 PM
To: bluebirds at bluebirds.datsun510.com
Subject: Datsun Driving Canby Fun 2011 Registration NOW OPEN



Ok, it's all there on the website: http://www.datsunsnw.org


One form for registering your Datsun or Nissan vehicle and another for just
buying stuff or registering for a swap meet/vendor site or camping etc.




If ya break the form, reply to this email to let me know.


If ya want to get off this mailing list, reply to this email to let me know.


Any other questions, reply to this email to let me know.



See ya at Canby in 101 days!



Julie

From antonywardle at gmail.com  Tue Mar  1 22:53:30 2011
From: antonywardle at gmail.com (antony wardle)
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:53:30 +1100
Subject: [Roadsters] OT- MGB GT
In-Reply-To: <006c01cbd88f$c9bf9510$5d3ebf30$@net>
References: <916191.92034.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<687411.66097.qm@web180214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<006c01cbd88f$c9bf9510$5d3ebf30$@net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinc8V=8P=NDRQEge0XWg6TJWi41E5jpMPhpj6k2@mail.gmail.com>

I walk past a really nice looking
yellow toyota MR2 most mornings.





On 2 March 2011 15:10, Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:

> The best British sports car ever built is the Miata. <g>
>
> Pete
> 2002 Limited Edition
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary and
> Cindy
> Ault
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 2:58 PM
> To: Gary McCormick; Datsun-Roadsters at autox.team.net; chalsted at comcast.net;
> Tim
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT- MGB GT
>
> If it were a Miata, then it wouldn't leak oil and/or other vital fluids and
> the electrics would work.......
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From SConway at fielders.com.au  Tue Mar  1 22:54:27 2011
From: SConway at fielders.com.au (Sam Conway)
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:24:27 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] OT- MGB GT
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinc8V=8P=NDRQEge0XWg6TJWi41E5jpMPhpj6k2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <916191.92034.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com><687411.66097.qm@web180214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><006c01cbd88f$c9bf9510$5d3ebf30$@net>
	<AANLkTinc8V=8P=NDRQEge0XWg6TJWi41E5jpMPhpj6k2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <09E4074C0F830C458934327282278BF00C6A933E@EDWEXVS01.hills.hillsad.com>

That's great, hope it makes you smile


Regards

Samuel Conway
National Quality and Process Engineer



-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of antony
wardle
Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2011 4:24 PM
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT- MGB GT

I walk past a really nice looking
yellow toyota MR2 most mornings.





On 2 March 2011 15:10, Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:

> The best British sports car ever built is the Miata. <g>
>
> Pete
> 2002 Limited Edition
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary and

> Cindy Ault
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 2:58 PM
> To: Gary McCormick; Datsun-Roadsters at autox.team.net;
> chalsted at comcast.net; Tim
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT- MGB GT
>
> If it were a Miata, then it wouldn't leak oil and/or other vital
> fluids and the electrics would work.......
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From antonywardle at gmail.com  Wed Mar  2 18:07:25 2011
From: antonywardle at gmail.com (antony wardle)
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 12:07:25 +1100
Subject: [Roadsters] OT- MGB GT
In-Reply-To: <09E4074C0F830C458934327282278BF00C6A933E@EDWEXVS01.hills.hillsad.com>
References: <916191.92034.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<687411.66097.qm@web180214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<006c01cbd88f$c9bf9510$5d3ebf30$@net>
	<AANLkTinc8V=8P=NDRQEge0XWg6TJWi41E5jpMPhpj6k2@mail.gmail.com>
	<09E4074C0F830C458934327282278BF00C6A933E@EDWEXVS01.hills.hillsad.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikfvTOSZVhX-+2DhtPWz3JkFExrt9XfkAvY13D=@mail.gmail.com>

Needs a clean I noticed today. Loads of bird pooh on it. It's a yellow
spyder. Still made me smile.


When I was looking around for a car, I only had one requirement and that was
for something made in 1967,
the same year as me. I was looking at the MG as the pricing wasn't too bad.
I'd been watch a top gear episode
where Clarkeson was describing MG owners as flat cap, tweed jackets, with
glasses and a beard.
Walking to the train station the next day, I saw a guy in an MG and he had a
flat cap, a beard, a tweed jacket and a beard
and I decided then that no MG for me. The only cars in the 1967 range were
beetles or $30K+ muscle cars, and
I couldn't justify the price. Then I saw a fairlady and thought it looked
really nice. Went and had a look, could see that
it was a bit rough (a 20/20 car ;-) )  but the price was about what i was
willing to pay and it was something I had never seen around. (None ever made
it to NZ
AFAIK). I also saw a sunbeam tiger for $100K. It's still for sale and the
proce has dropped down to about $86K

Very happy with the fairlady. My youngest loves going for drives in it.

kiwi



On 2 March 2011 16:54, Sam Conway <SConway at fielders.com.au> wrote:

> That's great, hope it makes you smile
>
>
> Regards
>
> Samuel Conway
> National Quality and Process Engineer
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of antony
> wardle
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2011 4:24 PM
> To: Datsun Roadster List
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT- MGB GT
>
> I walk past a really nice looking
> yellow toyota MR2 most mornings.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2 March 2011 15:10, Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > The best British sports car ever built is the Miata. <g>
> >
> > Pete
> > 2002 Limited Edition
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary and
>
> > Cindy Ault
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 2:58 PM
> > To: Gary McCormick; Datsun-Roadsters at autox.team.net;
> > chalsted at comcast.net; Tim
> > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT- MGB GT
> >
> > If it were a Miata, then it wouldn't leak oil and/or other vital
> > fluids and the electrics would work.......
> > ________________________________________
> > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation
> > $16.00
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From alvingogi at gmail.com  Wed Mar  2 20:42:08 2011
From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 19:42:08 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters in Nostalgic Hero Magazine!
Message-ID: <AANLkTinoe9c7QocHjzWWwwWDQCT1A-bF76KeWAYwuhVs@mail.gmail.com>

April issue
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2192172890103926530sFOPoQ

From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Thu Mar  3 05:28:48 2011
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 04:28:48 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters in Nostalgic Hero Magazine!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinoe9c7QocHjzWWwwWDQCT1A-bF76KeWAYwuhVs@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinoe9c7QocHjzWWwwWDQCT1A-bF76KeWAYwuhVs@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimhP7e+Or_qG4Et7siZGnK09V+cWYD3=G9C2Bgc@mail.gmail.com>

The 3rd Annual SoCalROC Show-N-Shione Toy Drive that tookplace this past
November was featured on this link Alvin sent out. Nice two page lay out.
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2192172890103926530sFOPoQ


On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:42 PM, alvin gogineni <alvingogi at gmail.com> wrote:

> April issue
> http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2192172890103926530sFOPoQ
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>



-- 
If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Datsun, then you are lucky
enough.

From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Fri Mar  4 06:15:28 2011
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 05:15:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Lucas theory of wiring
In-Reply-To: <007701cbd99f$44be9800$ce3bc800$@com>
References: <007701cbd99f$44be9800$ce3bc800$@com>
Message-ID: <379027.26782.qm@web121413.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Oldie but goodie

 
ELECTRICAL THEORY BY JOSEPH LUCAS 
 
This was sent to me
by member Erney Alewine who shares this information with the 
ELECTRIC TRAIN
community in the hopes that will clarify a few misunderstood 
electrical
theories: 

 
Positive ground depends on proper circuit functioning, which is
the transmission 
of negative ions by retention of the visible spectral
manifestation known as 
bsmokeb.  Smoke is  the thing that makes
electrical circuits work. We know this 
to be true because every time one lets
the smoke out of an electrical circuit, 
it stops working.  This can be
verified repeatedly through empirical testing. 

 
For example, if one places
a copper bar across the terminals of a battery, 
prodigious quantities of
smoke are liberated and the battery shortly ceases to 
function. In addition,
if one observes smoke escaping from an electrical 
component such as a Lucas
voltage regulator, it will also be observed that the 
component no longer
functions. The logic is elementary and inescapable! 

 
The function of the
wiring harness is to conduct the smoke from one device to 
another. When the
wiring springs a leak and lets all the  smoke out of the 
system, nothing
works afterward. 

Starter motors were considered unsuitable for British
motorcycles for some time 
largely because they consumed large quantities of
smoke, requiring very 
unsightly large wires. 

 
It has been reported that
Lucas electrical components are possibly more prone to 
electrical leakage
than their Bosch, Japanese or American counterparts. Experts 
point out that
this is because Lucas is British, and all things British leak. 
British
engines leak oil, British shock absorbers, hydraulic forks and disk 
brake
systems leak fluid, British tires leak air and British Intelligence leaks
national defense secrets. Therefore, it follows that British electrical
systems 
must leak smoke. Once again, the logic is clear and inescapable.
In conclusion, the basic concept of transmission of electrical energy in the
form of smoke provides a logical explanation of the mysteries of electrical
components especially British units manufactured by Joseph Lucas, Ltd. 

 
And
remember: bA gentleman does not motor about after dark.b 
 
Joseph Lucas
bThe Prince of Darknessb 
1842-1903

From tputland at charter.net  Fri Mar  4 06:54:39 2011
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 5:54:39 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Lucas theory of wiring
In-Reply-To: <379027.26782.qm@web121413.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110304085439.9RDE8.1377636.root@mp07>

an oldie but goodie....I think this just went around a couple months ago most
recently.
--

---- Jim Gammon <gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com> wrote:

=============
Oldie but goodie


ELECTRICAL THEORY BY JOSEPH LUCAS

This was sent to me
by member Erney Alewine who shares this information with the
ELECTRIC TRAIN
community in the hopes that will clarify a few misunderstood
electrical
theories:


Positive ground depends on proper circuit functioning, which is
the transmission
of negative ions by retention of the visible spectral
manifestation known as
b
smokeb
.  Smoke is  the thing that makes
electrical circuits work. We know this
to be true because every time one lets
the smoke out of an electrical circuit,
it stops working.  This can be
verified repeatedly through empirical testing.


For example, if one places
a copper bar across the terminals of a battery,
prodigious quantities of
smoke are liberated and the battery shortly ceases to
function. In addition,
if one observes smoke escaping from an electrical
component such as a Lucas
voltage regulator, it will also be observed that the
component no longer
functions. The logic is elementary and inescapable!


The function of the
wiring harness is to conduct the smoke from one device to
another. When the
wiring springs a leak and lets all the  smoke out of the
system, nothing
works afterward.

Starter motors were considered unsuitable for British
motorcycles for some time
largely because they consumed large quantities of
smoke, requiring very
unsightly large wires.


It has been reported that
Lucas electrical components are possibly more prone to
electrical leakage
than their Bosch, Japanese or American counterparts. Experts
point out that
this is because Lucas is British, and all things British leak.
British
engines leak oil, British shock absorbers, hydraulic forks and disk
brake
systems leak fluid, British tires leak air and British Intelligence leaks
national defense secrets. Therefore, it follows that British electrical
systems
must leak smoke. Once again, the logic is clear and inescapable.
In conclusion, the basic concept of transmission of electrical energy in the
form of smoke provides a logical explanation of the mysteries of electrical
components especially British units manufactured by Joseph Lucas, Ltd.


And
remember: b
A gentleman does not motor about after dark.b


Joseph Lucas
b
The Prince of Darknessb

1842-1903
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From sandhoff at csus.edu  Fri Mar  4 16:27:12 2011
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 15:27:12 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] spl213 featured in Sports and Exotic Car
Message-ID: <4D7104D0.4035.16046740@localhost>

The April 2011 issue of Hemmings' Sport and Exotic Car has a
four page feature on the '61 SPL213 owned by Walter Miller of
Syracuse, New York. Article by Jim Donnelly, who doesn't have
a lot of reverence for the model:

"History would demonstrate that the Japanese got smart... but
first, they had to stagger past blunders like this one".

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From aultgc at att.net  Fri Mar  4 19:57:58 2011
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 20:57:58 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] spl213 featured in Sports and Exotic Car
References: <4D7104D0.4035.16046740@localhost>
Message-ID: <CC1853BC5BE1428EB922DFD3F1E59AD7@gaxp1>

John,

I read the article.  I suspect Mr. Donnelly had never before seen any
roadster, much less an SPL213.  Previous articles about roadsters in S&EC
have, to my thinking, shown a naivete about the cars.  Not negative -- just
not knowledgeable like they are about British cars.  Whatever one wants to
eay about early Nissan efforts, the engines didn't leak, and the electrics
worked.  Those distinctions are not often mentioned.  This article continues
the tradition.

Before everyone jumps on me, let me note I am a charter subscriber to S&EC,
and I have every issue published.

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John F Sandhoff" <sandhoff at csus.edu>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:27 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] spl213 featured in Sports and Exotic Car


> The April 2011 issue of Hemmings' Sport and Exotic Car has a
> four page feature on the '61 SPL213 owned by Walter Miller of
> Syracuse, New York. Article by Jim Donnelly, who doesn't have
> a lot of reverence for the model:
>
> "History would demonstrate that the Japanese got smart... but
> first, they had to stagger past blunders like this one".
>
> -- John
>     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA
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From dave at ranteer.com  Sun Mar  6 10:41:49 2011
From: dave at ranteer.com (Dave)
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 11:41:49 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] quarter windows
Message-ID: <2C8E6150540649AD911E2FAE75B78FB0@ranteer.local>

o;?I am getting ready to put the quarter windows back in (vent windows?)

I had them rechromed, so they are all in pieces.  (the glass, the uprights,
the little latch pieces, etc.  literally b all in pieces)  plus, I wasnbt
the one who disassembled them, so bthe reverse of disassemblyb isnbt
going to help me here.  I have some good pictures, so that helps.  (Thanks,
Brian!)

am I correct in thinking that the rubber goes on the glass?

is there any documentation on how to do this?

hints/directions/thoughts would be appreciated

the car is an early 67

thanks!

From jeffzster at yahoo.com  Sun Mar  6 15:32:19 2011
From: jeffzster at yahoo.com (Jeff Torres)
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:32:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Need some help here...Radiator issue
Message-ID: <389442.86042.qm@web110404.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Ok.. So about a month ago I had been looking at those "Champion" brand
radiators on EBAY...Had a few of you reply off post that have had good success
with them. Finally getting a new engine and have decided on going with the
thre 3 Row Champion set-up..so I go back on to ebay, ready to go..andf now
they are all gone!!! The 2 rows are there, but no 3 rows..just my
luck...Anyone know where to get em for the Roadster? I saw this one company
MONSTER Radiator on EBAY out of the Los Angeles area..Anyone know where they
are or how to get ahold of them? Any help in locating a 3 ROW Aluminum
Radiator would be very appreciated!
 
Thanks
 
Jeff T.

From jeffzster at yahoo.com  Sun Mar  6 15:43:18 2011
From: jeffzster at yahoo.com (Jeff Torres)
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:43:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang Friday Night Update
Message-ID: <315557.55503.qm@web110411.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hey all,
 
Been getting some questions about our Friday night get together...so here it
is!
 
We will be getting together on Friday night with a "Cruise-In"  at the Big
Bopper Drive-In located in Solvang.Our event will begin at 5pm.  We have
reserved the whole parking lot for our show only. The good thing about here
too, is that it is a full functioning diner type place with an extensive menu!
Soooo..you won't be stuck with Subway if don't want that.  I have a attached a
link to the show web page for all the show info!
 
http://solvangshow.com/page0002.html
 
Jeff T.

From alvingogi at gmail.com  Sun Mar  6 16:04:27 2011
From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:04:27 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Need some help here...Radiator issue
In-Reply-To: <389442.86042.qm@web110404.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <389442.86042.qm@web110404.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimueG_m9brfuFD1gPz7TY_H=f0i3H-jGHUQXc+p@mail.gmail.com>

i would also try Les at CDM
he sells a Ron Davis aluminum radiator:
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2756020690103926530vxWnOu

On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Jeff Torres <jeffzster at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Ok.. So about a month ago I had been looking at those "Champion" brand
> radiators on EBAY...Had a few of you reply off post that have had good
> success
> with them. Finally getting a new engine and have decided on going with the
> thre 3 Row Champion set-up..so I go back on to ebay, ready to go..andf now
> they are all gone!!! The 2 rows are there, but no 3 rows..just my
> luck...Anyone know where to get em for the Roadster? I saw this one company
> MONSTER Radiator on EBAY out of the Los Angeles area..Anyone know where
> they
> are or how to get ahold of them? Any help in locating a 3 ROW Aluminum
> Radiator would be very appreciated!
>
> Thanks
>
> Jeff T.
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From jeffzster at yahoo.com  Sun Mar  6 16:55:53 2011
From: jeffzster at yahoo.com (Jeff Torres)
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:55:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang Friday Night Update - 2nd try
Message-ID: <130553.39363.qm@web110409.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

--- On Sun, 3/6/11, Jeff Torres <jeffzster at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Jeff Torres <jeffzster at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang Friday Night Update
To: "Datsun Roadster Mail" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Date: Sunday, March 6, 2011, 2:43 PM


Hey all,

Been getting some questions about our Friday night get together...so here it
is!

We will be getting together on Friday night with a "Cruise-In"  at the Big
Bopper Drive-In located in Solvang.Our event will begin at 5pm.  We have
reserved the whole parking lot for our show only. The good thing about here
too, is that it is a full functioning diner type place with an extensive
menu!
Soooo..you won't be stuck with Subway if don't want that.  I have a attached
a
link to the show web page for all the show info!

http://solvangshow.com/page0002.html

Jeff T.
________________________________________
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From keithddowning at yahoo.com  Sun Mar  6 19:14:23 2011
From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing)
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:14:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Need some help here...Radiator issue
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Alvin,  That's a good looking radiator.

Jeff, the Champion Radiators used to
be in Costa Mesa I beleive. It appears they 
are now in Lake
Elsenore. http://www.championcooling.com/  The quy who was 
selling them on
eBay, Leadfoot Racing http://www.championradiators.com/,  was 
just 5 miles
from my house, so I just stopped by his house and picked it up.  I 
had a neck
welded on the top at a local shop.  You might give either one of them 
a call
to see what they have.

Let me know, I'd be happy to help you, anyway I can do
to my proximity to both 
of them.

Keith Downing
Orange County, CA
________________________________
From: alvin gogineni <alvingogi at gmail.com>
To: Jeff Torres <jeffzster at yahoo.com>
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<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 3:04:27 PM
Subject:
Re: [Roadsters] Need some help here...Radiator issue

i would also try Les at
CDM
he sells a Ron Davis aluminum radiator:
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2756020690103926530vxWnOu

On Sun, Mar 6, 2011
at 2:32 PM, Jeff Torres <jeffzster at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Ok.. So about a month
ago I had been looking at those "Champion" brand
> radiators on EBAY...Had a
few of you reply off post that have had good
> success
> with them. Finally
getting a new engine and have decided on going with the
> thre 3 Row Champion
set-up..so I go back on to ebay, ready to go..andf now
> they are all gone!!!
The 2 rows are there, but no 3 rows..just my
> luck...Anyone know where to get
em for the Roadster? I saw this one company
> MONSTER Radiator on EBAY out of
the Los Angeles area..Anyone know where
> they
> are or how to get ahold of
them? Any help in locating a 3 ROW Aluminum
> Radiator would be very
appreciated!
>
> Thanks
>
> Jeff T.
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From graemes at internode.on.net  Mon Mar  7 02:39:49 2011
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling)
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 20:09:49 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] quarter windows
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On 7/03/2011 4:11 AM, Dave wrote:
> o;?I am getting ready to put the quarter windows back in (vent windows?)
>
> I had them rechromed, so they are all in pieces.  (the glass, the uprights,
> the little latch pieces, etc.  literally b all in pieces)  plus, I wasnbt
> the one who disassembled them, so bthe reverse of disassemblyb isnbt
> going to help me here.  I have some good pictures, so that helps.  (Thanks,
> Brian!)
>
> am I correct in thinking that the rubber goes on the glass?
>
> is there any documentation on how to do this?
>
> hints/directions/thoughts would be appreciated
>
> the car is an early 67
>
> thanks!
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 From memory, faint as it maybe, I thought the 1/4 window was a glass 
pane that closed onto the weather seal!?!?
I may be wrong, I was wrong only this morning when I....Oh never mind!
To insert the weather strip, use dish washing liquid to lubricate the 
rubbers and channels.
If the glass needs to go into a seal same deal.
I'm sending you a couple of pics. from the SP311 Parts Manual which may 
be of help to you.
Let me know if you need any further assistance.

-- 
Regards,
Graeme Suckling
1965 SP310 Datsun Sports
1971 P510 Datsun 1600
1972 PL510 Datsun 1600 LHD
1973 HS30 Datsun 240Z
1984 B120 Datsun 1200 utility
1993 ECR33 Skyline GTS25t
http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza
Adelaide
South Australia.

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From tputland at charter.net  Mon Mar  7 05:40:23 2011
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 4:40:23 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Need some help here...Radiator issue
In-Reply-To: <389442.86042.qm@web110404.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110307074023.T7ONT.11385606.root@mp08>

When I upgraded to a three row radiator for my 1600, I took the old one to a radiator shop in Madison and they built me a three row using the original tanks. Unless you really know what you are looking at, you cannot tell it is not 100% original. 

Any competant radiator shop should be able to do this for you. I believe the cost was around $150. 

Tim
Dairyland Datsuns


---- Jeff Torres <jeffzster at yahoo.com> wrote: 

=============
Ok.. So about a month ago I had been looking at those "Champion" brand
radiators on EBAY...Had a few of you reply off post that have had good success
with them. Finally getting a new engine and have decided on going with the
thre 3 Row Champion set-up..so I go back on to ebay, ready to go..andf now
they are all gone!!! The 2 rows are there, but no 3 rows..just my
luck...Anyone know where to get em for the Roadster? I saw this one company
MONSTER Radiator on EBAY out of the Los Angeles area..Anyone know where they
are or how to get ahold of them? Any help in locating a 3 ROW Aluminum
Radiator would be very appreciated!
 
Thanks
 
Jeff T.
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Mon Mar  7 08:25:25 2011
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 07:25:25 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Need some help here...Radiator issue
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	<20110307074023.T7ONT.11385606.root@mp08>
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Killer deal, Tim. Most folks here and on other lists have been quoted
$250-$300 by radiator shops to recore a stock radiator to 3-row.


Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 4:40 AM
To: Datsun Roadster Mail; Jeff Torres
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Need some help here...Radiator issue

When I upgraded to a three row radiator for my 1600, I took the old one to a
radiator shop in Madison and they built me a three row using the original
tanks. Unless you really know what you are looking at, you cannot tell it is
not 100% original. 

Any competant radiator shop should be able to do this for you. I believe the
cost was around $150. 

Tim
Dairyland Datsuns

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Mon Mar  7 08:35:50 2011
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 07:35:50 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Need some help here...Radiator issue
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	<AANLkTimueG_m9brfuFD1gPz7TY_H=f0i3H-jGHUQXc+p@mail.gmail.com>
	<722099.29927.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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Look like the same radiator with the same logo. The pics on Ledfoot's site
even say Champion Cooling Systems.

I'd call 'em like Keith suggests. They might have one left in inventory
and/or make you up one since they used to sell them.

Either way, let us all know.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Keith Downing
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 6:14 PM
To: alvin gogineni; Jeff Torres
Cc: Datsun Roadster Mail
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Need some help here...Radiator issue

[snip]

Jeff, the Champion Radiators used to be in Costa Mesa I believe. It appears
they are now in Lake Elsinore:

http://www.championcooling.com/

The guy who was selling them on eBay, Ledfoot Racing
<http://www.championradiators.com/>, was just 5 miles from my house, so I
just stopped by his house and picked it up. I had a neck welded on the top
at a local shop. You might give either one of them a call to see what they
have.

Let me know, I'd be happy to help you, anyway I can do to my proximity to
both of them.

Keith Downing
Orange County, CA

From tputland at charter.net  Mon Mar  7 08:43:26 2011
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 7:43:26 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Need some help here...Radiator issue
In-Reply-To: <004f01cbdcdb$e2e3f590$a8abe0b0$@net>
Message-ID: <20110307104326.1K9EO.14365699.root@mp17>

Since I don't remember for sure and the paper work is at home, I was guessing at that price. But I know it was not more than $200. It was around $200 with a fill cap braised into the top tank to ease the filling of that sytem. 

---- Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote: 

=============
Killer deal, Tim. Most folks here and on other lists have been quoted
$250-$300 by radiator shops to recore a stock radiator to 3-row.


Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 4:40 AM
To: Datsun Roadster Mail; Jeff Torres
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Need some help here...Radiator issue

When I upgraded to a three row radiator for my 1600, I took the old one to a
radiator shop in Madison and they built me a three row using the original
tanks. Unless you really know what you are looking at, you cannot tell it is
not 100% original. 

Any competant radiator shop should be able to do this for you. I believe the
cost was around $150. 

Tim
Dairyland Datsuns
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From femaleguitarist at yahoo.com  Mon Mar  7 09:29:15 2011
From: femaleguitarist at yahoo.com (Female Guitarist Amy Schugar)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 08:29:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 5, Issue 76
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Message-ID: <814861.21979.qm@web59601.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

Hello,
Yea, I have the same problem and wonder how to do this also? And also
who is a good chromer you recommend?
Thank you-

--- On Sun, 3/6/11,
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Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 11:41:49 -0600
> From: "Dave"
<dave at ranteer.com>
> Subject: [Roadsters] quarter windows
> To:
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> o;?I am getting ready to put the quarter windows back
in
> (vent windows?)
> 
> I had them rechromed, so they are all in pieces. 
(the
> glass, the uprights,
> the little latch pieces, etc.  literally b all
in
> pieces)  plus, I wasnbt
> the one who disassembled them, so bthe reverse
of
> disassemblyb isnbt
> going to help me here.  I have some good pictures,
so
> that helps.  (Thanks,
> Brian!)
> 
> am I correct in thinking that the
rubber goes on the
> glass?
> 
> is there any documentation on how to do this?
> 
> hints/directions/thoughts would be appreciated
> 
> the car is an early
67
> 
> thanks!
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
>
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Mon Mar  7 09:47:26 2011
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 11:47:26 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 5, Issue 76
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 Where are you located? A good chromer in LA is Verne's in Gardena. Just
Google the name , don't have it handy




 Linda



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Mon, Mar 7, 2011 8:38 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 5, Issue 76


Hello,
Yea, I have the same problem and wonder how to do this also? And also
who is a good chromer you recommend?
Thank you-

--- On Sun, 3/6/11,
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>
Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 11:41:49 -0600
> From: "Dave"
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> Subject: [Roadsters] quarter windows
> To:
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> Content-Type: text/plain;
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>
> o;?I am getting ready to put the quarter windows back
in
> (vent windows?)
>
> I had them rechromed, so they are all in pieces.
(the
> glass, the uprights,
> the little latch pieces, etc.  literally b all
in
> pieces)  plus, I wasnbt
> the one who disassembled them, so bthe reverse
of
> disassemblyb isnbt
> going to help me here.  I have some good pictures,
so
> that helps.  (Thanks,
> Brian!)
>
> am I correct in thinking that the
rubber goes on the
> glass?
>
> is there any documentation on how to do this?
>
> hints/directions/thoughts would be appreciated
>
> the car is an early
67
>
> thanks!
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
_______________________________________________
> Datsun-roadsters mailing
list
> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>
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From dave at ranteer.com  Mon Mar  7 09:51:11 2011
From: dave at ranteer.com (Dave)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 10:51:11 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] [SPAM] Re:  Need some help here...Radiator issue
In-Reply-To: <20110307104326.1K9EO.14365699.root@mp17>
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Message-ID: <2857F6AEF0484D7095AEA147DE47A73A@ranteer.local>

?mine was done a few years ago but it was under $200

From: Tim
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 9:43 AM
To: Pete Peters ; Datsun Roadster List
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Roadsters] Need some help here...Radiator issue

Since I don't remember for sure and the paper work is at home, I was guessing
at that price. But I know it was not more than $200. It was around $200 with a
fill cap braised into the top tank to ease the filling of that sytem.

From dave at ranteer.com  Mon Mar  7 11:29:07 2011
From: dave at ranteer.com (Dave)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 12:29:07 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Need some help
 here...Radiator issue
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o;?and if it doesnbt have one already, put a petcock in the bottom for easy
draining

From graemes at internode.on.net  Mon Mar  7 16:26:12 2011
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling)
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 09:56:12 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] Need some help here...Radiator issue
In-Reply-To: <20110307074023.T7ONT.11385606.root@mp08>
References: <20110307074023.T7ONT.11385606.root@mp08>
Message-ID: <4D756994.8050108@internode.on.net>

On 7/03/2011 11:10 PM, Tim wrote:
> When I upgraded to a three row radiator for my 1600, I took the old one to a radiator shop in Madison and they built me a three row using the original tanks. Unless you really know what you are looking at, you cannot tell it is not 100% original.
>
> Any competant radiator shop should be able to do this for you. I believe the cost was around $150.
>
> Tim
> Dairyland Datsuns
>
A very good stealth conversion!
I did the same thing in my P510 when I fitted the FJ20 engine.
However, it appears that on my SP310 2 row radiator, the bottom tank is too narrow to fit a 3 row core in  :-(
So I might have to have a replacement lower put in if I decide to go for a 3 row.

From Ken.Smart at csiro.au  Mon Mar  7 17:35:45 2011
From: Ken.Smart at csiro.au (Ken.Smart at csiro.au)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 11:35:45 +1100
Subject: [Roadsters] Need some help here...Radiator issue
In-Reply-To: <4D756994.8050108@internode.on.net>
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The shop that did mine split the lower tank and re-sealed it to take the wider
core.


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Graeme Suckling
Sent: Tuesday, 8 March 2011 10:26 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Need some help here...Radiator issue

On 7/03/2011 11:10 PM, Tim wrote:
> When I upgraded to a three row radiator for my 1600, I took the old one to a
radiator shop in Madison and they built me a three row using the original
tanks. Unless you really know what you are looking at, you cannot tell it is
not 100% original.
>
> Any competant radiator shop should be able to do this for you. I believe the
cost was around $150.
>
> Tim
> Dairyland Datsuns
>
A very good stealth conversion!
I did the same thing in my P510 when I fitted the FJ20 engine.
However, it appears that on my SP310 2 row radiator, the bottom tank is too
narrow to fit a 3 row core in  :-(
So I might have to have a replacement lower put in if I decide to go for a 3
row.

From dato1500 at hotmail.com  Tue Mar  8 03:00:08 2011
From: dato1500 at hotmail.com (Peter Jones)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 18:00:08 +0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Need some help here...Radiator issue
In-Reply-To: <4D756994.8050108@internode.on.net>
References: <20110307074023.T7ONT.11385606.root@mp08>,
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Message-ID: <BLU159-w232345B2D4E63B6B6B6175D5C60@phx.gbl>

Go a 3 row micro fin. Uses the same space as a 2 row standard.

> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 09:56:12 +1030
> From: graemes at internode.on.net
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Need some help here...Radiator issue
>
> On 7/03/2011 11:10 PM, Tim wrote:
> > When I upgraded to a three row radiator for my 1600, I took the old one to
a radiator shop in Madison and they built me a three row using the original
tanks. Unless you really know what you are looking at, you cannot tell it is
not 100% original.
> >
> > Any competant radiator shop should be able to do this for you. I believe
the cost was around $150.
> >
> > Tim
> > Dairyland Datsuns
> >
> A very good stealth conversion!
> I did the same thing in my P510 when I fitted the FJ20 engine.
> However, it appears that on my SP310 2 row radiator, the bottom tank is too
narrow to fit a 3 row core in :-(
> So I might have to have a replacement lower put in if I decide to go for a 3
row.
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From shas1983 at netzero.net  Tue Mar  8 15:57:35 2011
From: shas1983 at netzero.net (shas1983 at netzero.net)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 22:57:35 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] Seals for bearings on SU's
Message-ID: <20110308.145735.8051.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>

I have a set of SU' that were rebuilt about 10 years ago by Mike Poorboy who I
believe formerly owned Z therapy.They have sat in a box never installed until
last spring. Everything was replaced including roller bearing shafts which I
thought were sealed. I took some carb cleaner one day and discovered that the
bearing were not sealed. Getting carb cleaner anywhere near the shaft
instantly shut the carb down. I found out after the fact that these were
supposedly set up for racing, with no springs and different needles. I have
added springs and replaced both the needles and the jets.  I have never been
able to get these to work well without running heavy 40w oil in the dashpots,
which I am speculating is due to the air leakage around these bearings. With
this oil, I get good response in low gears and at lower speeds, but once over
80 mph they want to bog when pushing the throttle heavily. I can only gain
speed by gently applying the throttle and waiting for the speed to gradually
increase. t seems to me this may be the result of the heavy oil not allowing
the pistons to open enough for adequate air/fuel at higher speeds. Does this
make sense? Can I be over compensating with the Heavy oil for the airflow to
the point that I am sacrificing high end? Not sure if the floats could be
impacting this as well. I set these using a drill bit as a guage as described
by others, I have noticed a tendency on even minor inclines to loose
acceleration. The engine has good compression, electronic ignition,.etc so I
am left believing it is somehow related to the carbs. Any help would be
appreciated.
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From alvingogi at gmail.com  Tue Mar  8 23:19:00 2011
From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 22:19:00 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] AR Libre-type wheels for sale
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=r1g2jMkf6LddOUsw0qfYNnu_Zpaxe4beOa7CV@mail.gmail.com>

Set of 4 14"x6" Non-AR Libres with 185/70R14 tires with lots of tread left
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Very good condition

PRICE:
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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Wed Mar  9 07:25:51 2011
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 09:25:51 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Seals for bearings on SU's
Message-ID: <6682e.1319921b.3aa8e7ef@aol.com>

Sounds like it is running lean at the top end. What needles did you put in  
them? Check with the current Z-therapy folks about the throttle shaft seal  
problem. They didn't own the company when the work was done but they might 
still  sort them out for you. 
 
keith williams
 
 
In a message dated 3/8/2011 3:09:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
shas1983 at netzero.net writes:

I have a  set of SU' that were rebuilt about 10 years ago by Mike Poorboy 
who  I
believe formerly owned Z therapy.They have sat in a box never installed  
until
last spring. Everything was replaced including roller bearing shafts  which 
I
thought were sealed. I took some carb cleaner one day and  discovered that 
the
bearing were not sealed. Getting carb cleaner anywhere  near the shaft
instantly shut the carb down. I found out after the fact  that these were
supposedly set up for racing, with no springs and different  needles. I have
added springs and replaced both the needles and the  jets.  I have never 
been
able to get these to work well without  running heavy 40w oil in the 
dashpots,
which I am speculating is due to the  air leakage around these bearings. 
With
this oil, I get good response in  low gears and at lower speeds, but once 
over
80 mph they want to bog when  pushing the throttle heavily. I can only gain
speed by gently applying the  throttle and waiting for the speed to 
gradually
increase. t seems to me  this may be the result of the heavy oil not 
allowing
the pistons to open  enough for adequate air/fuel at higher speeds. Does 
this
make sense? Can I  be over compensating with the Heavy oil for the airflow 
to
the point that I  am sacrificing high end? Not sure if the floats could be
impacting this as  well. I set these using a drill bit as a guage as 
described
by others, I  have noticed a tendency on even minor inclines to loose
acceleration. The  engine has good compression, electronic ignition,.etc so 
I
am left  believing it is somehow related to the carbs. Any help would  be
appreciated.
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From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Wed Mar  9 13:34:19 2011
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 12:34:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Slightly OT: Low-mile 1969 510 in Santa Cruz, CA
Message-ID: <80997.41115.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

It's a 4-door automatic, and he's asking WAAY too much money (IMHO), but someone might be interested:

http://bringatrailer.com/2011/03/09/57k-mile-1969-datsun-510/

From SConway at fielders.com.au  Wed Mar  9 14:00:23 2011
From: SConway at fielders.com.au (Sam Conway)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 07:30:23 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] Slightly OT: Low-mile 1969 510 in Santa Cruz,  CA
Message-ID: <09E4074C0F830C458934327282278BF00C6A93DC@EDWEXVS01.hills.hillsad.com>

Yeah your right its an old japanese car why should it be worth any money. $6500 is an insane price. If it was italian or european then it would be a classic car worth money.

----- Original Message -----
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To: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu Mar 10 07:04:19 2011
Subject: [Roadsters] Slightly OT: Low-mile 1969 510 in Santa Cruz, CA

It's a 4-door automatic, and he's asking WAAY too much money (IMHO), but someone might be interested:

http://bringatrailer.com/2011/03/09/57k-mile-1969-datsun-510/
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From dbji at whidbey.net  Wed Mar  9 14:53:37 2011
From: dbji at whidbey.net (Don Boyd)
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 13:53:37 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] su seals
Message-ID: <33F91CE3A81A434F92141617B5BA2CA3@work>

If there is room on the outside of the shafts(you need about 1/8"), you can
use shaft seals from early 1970's Volvo 140s to seal the shafts. Same shaft
dia. The used to come with the head gasket set, so any (local) grey bearded
Volvo mechanic might have one or two or four around. I'm sure these seal must
be NLA by now, so be sure to bribe him with beer, and you'll get better
cooperation! :-)

Don Boyd (grey bearded Volvo mechanic)
Mechanical Services
5034 Mutiny Bay Rd.
Freeland WA. 98249

From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Wed Mar  9 15:03:22 2011
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:03:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Slightly OT: Low-mile 1969 510 in Santa Cruz,  CA
In-Reply-To: <09E4074C0F830C458934327282278BF00C6A93DC@EDWEXVS01.hills.hillsad.com>
Message-ID: <237658.10833.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Yoiks - are you a 510 owner?

You are preaching to the choir in a general way here vis a vis Japanes vs
European cars -- my first 4-wheeled vehicle was a 1970 PL521, I owned a 2-door
510 for a while in college, and have owned my '70 2000 for 24 years.

My point is that the 4-door, Automatic 510 is not a desirable model of this
car, not as desirable as, say a 2-door manual transmission model.

--- On Wed, 3/9/11, Sam Conway <SConway at fielders.com.au> wrote:

From: Sam Conway <SConway at fielders.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Slightly OT: Low-mile 1969 510 in Santa Cruz, CA
To: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2011, 1:00 PM




 
 
Re: [Roadsters] Slightly OT: Low-mile 1969 510 in Santa Cruz, CA
Yeah
your right its an old japanese car why should it be worth any money. $6500 is
an insane price. If it was italian or european then it would be a classic car
worth money.


----- Original Message -----

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<datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net>

To: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>

Sent: Thu Mar 10 07:04:19 2011

Subject: [Roadsters] Slightly OT: Low-mile 1969 510 in Santa Cruz, CA


It's a 4-door automatic, and he's asking WAAY too much money (IMHO), but
someone might be interested:


http://bringatrailer.com/2011/03/09/57k-mile-1969-datsun-510/

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From u20power67 at hotmail.com  Wed Mar  9 16:07:28 2011
From: u20power67 at hotmail.com (n ruff)
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:07:28 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Hood Prop Rod Help
In-Reply-To: <237658.10833.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <09E4074C0F830C458934327282278BF00C6A93DC@EDWEXVS01.hills.hillsad.com>,
	<237658.10833.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SNT128-W156092EDFD80490CCB7EC9C6C90@phx.gbl>

I should know this but what is the transition year for the hood prop rod?  I'm
researching the correct rod for a 68.  I assume that they transitioned to the
newer style in 68 but can't remember for the life of me.

Thanks in advance!

Nathan

From tputland at charter.net  Sun Mar 13 09:09:31 2011
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 9:09:31 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] upper ball joints
Message-ID: <20110313120931.OAA5Q.7848260.root@mp14>

I do not seem to be able to find these on the vendor sites I looked at. Can these be had new? Or am I blind?

thanks

Tim 
Dairyland Datsuns

From dave at ranteer.com  Sun Mar 13 11:05:52 2011
From: dave at ranteer.com (Dave)
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:05:52 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] part needed
Message-ID: <591ED4AEEE30468CA1393D4FE11267B6@ranteer.local>

?hi.

I am in need of the heater control panel for an early 67 roadster.  I have the
cover plates and some miscellaneous; what I really need is the two sides and
the front piece,which, I think, has the slide switches attached to it, and to
which the cover panel and aluminum label pates attach (which I have)

thanks!

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Sun Mar 13 12:08:38 2011
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:08:38 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: LOST:  '67 Roadster
Message-ID: <002a01cbe1b2$111bbd50$335337f0$@net>

Forwarding this on behalf of a person who contacted me.

 

Gordon Glasgow

 

From: Ken Evans [mailto:ken_c_evans at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 9:25 AM
To: me at gordon-glasgow.org
Subject: LOST: '67 Roadster

 

I'm looking for roadster owners help in locating a 1967 1600 that was
undergoing frame-off restoration at a shop in Beverly, MA at Bob's
Restoration Shop.  A few years ago both Bob and my Roadster disappeared.
The 1600 was silver with a red interior and black rag top - at least when I
last saw it.  The vehicle ID is SPL31105978.  It was being fully restored
and "Bob" was paid a great deal of money to complete the work.  I moved out
of state and when I hadn't heard from him, called to find the shop was
closed and Bob was not to be found. 

 

I just came across your group and thought somebody might know something.
There is a reward for any information that helps me find this car. 

 

Best, 

 

Ken Evans

From stebharvey at ameritech.net  Sun Mar 13 05:34:55 2011
From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey)
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 05:34:55 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Test
Message-ID: <NNEJLCLFHGMBEEKOEPAHIEPACAAA.stebharvey@ameritech.net>

This is test. No one needs to study however. Return to your normal activity.

From aultgc at att.net  Sun Mar 13 15:47:53 2011
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 15:47:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] upper ball joints
In-Reply-To: <20110313120931.OAA5Q.7848260.root@mp14>
References: <20110313120931.OAA5Q.7848260.root@mp14>
Message-ID: <812039.35664.qm@web180201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Tim,

I don't know of a source for new upper ball joints.

Gary
________________________________
From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
To:
datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun,
March 13, 2011 11:09:31 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] upper ball joints

I do not
seem to be able to find these on the vendor sites I looked at. Can 
these be
had new? Or am I blind?

thanks

Tim 
Dairyland Datsuns
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From keithddowning at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 13 17:26:04 2011
From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing)
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:26:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] upper ball joints
In-Reply-To: <812039.35664.qm@web180201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <20110313120931.OAA5Q.7848260.root@mp14>
	<812039.35664.qm@web180201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <257109.95951.qm@web83308.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I think Rareparts.com rebuilds them. They also have the lower aftermarket
units.

Keith




________________________________
From: Gary and Cindy Ault
<aultgc at att.net>
To: Tim <tputland at charter.net>; datsun-roadsters:
autox.team.net 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, March 13, 2011
3:47:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] upper ball joints

Tim,

I don't know of a
source for new upper ball joints.

Gary
________________________________
From:
Tim <tputland at charter.net>
To:
datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun,
March 13, 2011 11:09:31 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] upper ball joints

I do not
seem to be able to find these
on the vendor sites I looked at. Can 
these be
had new? Or am I blind?

thanks
Tim 
Dairyland Datsuns
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Sun Mar 13 21:09:29 2011
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 21:09:29 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Question for Herb Petty
Message-ID: <000f01cbe1fd$9e0d5340$da27f9c0$@net>

Herb, have you heard anything from our roadster friends in Japan? The damage
over there is just unthinkable.

 

Gordon Glasgow

Renton, WA

www.gordon-glasgow.org

From tputland at charter.net  Mon Mar 14 04:44:04 2011
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 4:44:04 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Question for Herb Petty
In-Reply-To: <000f01cbe1fd$9e0d5340$da27f9c0$@net>
Message-ID: <20110314074404.3G1MS.7849476.root@mp14>

He had sent out a note a couple days ago. I thought it went to the whole list....

Tim

---- Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net> wrote: 

=============
Herb, have you heard anything from our roadster friends in Japan? The damage
over there is just unthinkable.

 

Gordon Glasgow

Renton, WA

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From Mike.Roney at RaymondJames.com  Mon Mar 14 04:44:44 2011
From: Mike.Roney at RaymondJames.com (Michael Roney)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 07:44:44 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Subject:  upper ball joints
Message-ID: <6819BB70681BCC4B9BBA44F1F0EE595D0666E2B8@WREN5.rjf.com>

Tim:    Check here for new parts.  I bought lowers from them in the
fall.  The site says they have uppers also.



http://rareparts.bytedesigns.com/ez/shopdisplayproducts.asp



Mike



'69 SRL311- OH tag-MIFRLDY

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From phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov  Mon Mar 14 05:27:13 2011
From: phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED10))
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 07:27:13 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Charging Question
Message-ID: <C9A373D1.7975%phillip.b.hall@nasa.gov>

So, on my 67.5 it was not charging very well.  The battery would last a few
days then start to go down hill.  I replaced the regulator and drove it a few
miles.  I picked up my daughter and on the way back the amp gage went to about
15 amps  charging, cool!  As this happened, the Roadster started getting a
bad miss.  I pulled over thinking something came loose.  Found nothing and
eventually unplugged the alternator and it ran great.

This weekend I put on a one wire GM alt my son had  a new Powermaster unit.
Same thing......  Plugged in the car has a bad miss, unplugged it runs great.

I have gone through and cleaned the plug from the starter (that powers my
ignition), reworked my ground cables (stock locations  battery, block, frame,
body), replaced the wire from the reastat to coil which was just holding on by
2 strands,,,,,,,  Every time I make something better it misses worse.   Now
with the alternator plugged in, it misses bad  even back-firing through the
carbs.  Unplugged  runs great.

I an going to check the voltage at the coil, but I did not have help and cant
keep it running with the alt plugged in.

Ideas????

Phil
SEROC

From phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov  Mon Mar 14 10:47:56 2011
From: phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED10))
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:47:56 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Charging Question
In-Reply-To: <F06D043A-9AFA-4542-8A01-EEF85650CFA6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <C9A3BEFC.79B3%phillip.b.hall@nasa.gov>

With the new regulator and new plug it had this miss and now with the GM
unit, it has the same miss.  The GM has an internal regulator.

The stock set up showed 15 amps when changing (and missing) which I would
not think is over charging.  The GM unit is a 100 amp, but have a 40 amp
link inline.

I have had Roadsters over charge in the past and they ran fine, just boiled
the water out of the battery.

This one really has me thinking......

An thanks for the person on 311s that did the color schematics!!  Really
saving my eyes.


On 3/14/11 10:48 AM, "ljordan704 at aol.com" <ljordan704 at aol.com> wrote:

> Did you clean the VR plug too? It sounds like you were overcharging at one
> point.
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On Mar 14, 2011, at 5:27 AM, "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED10)"
> <phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>> So, on my 67.5 it was not charging very well.  The battery would last a
few
>> days then start to go down hill.  I replaced the regulator and drove it a
few
>> miles.  I picked up my daughter and on the way back the amp gage went to
>> about
>> 15 amps  charging, cool!  As this happened, the Roadster started getting
a
>> bad miss.  I pulled over thinking something came loose.  Found nothing and
>> eventually unplugged the alternator and it ran great.
>>
>> This weekend I put on a one wire GM alt my son had  a new Powermaster
unit.
>> Same thing......  Plugged in the car has a bad miss, unplugged it runs
great.
>>
>> I have gone through and cleaned the plug from the starter (that powers my
>> ignition), reworked my ground cables (stock locations  battery, block,
>> frame,
>> body), replaced the wire from the reastat to coil which was just holding
on
>> by
>> 2 strands,,,,,,,  Every time I make something better it misses worse.
Now
>> with the alternator plugged in, it misses bad  even back-firing through
the
>> carbs.  Unplugged  runs great.
>>
>> I an going to check the voltage at the coil, but I did not have help and
>> cant
>> keep it running with the alt plugged in.
>>
>> Ideas????
>>
>> Phil
>> SEROC

From haabu at sbcglobal.net  Mon Mar 14 11:20:58 2011
From: haabu at sbcglobal.net (Herb Petty)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:20:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: RE: Japan Disaster.
Message-ID: <850140.82052.qm@web81804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
 
Many of you have inquired about our Roadster friends in Japan.       Thank you
all.
 
I talked on my cell phone, last evening to Masaki Nakano, who along with many
of our Roadster friends, lives in Nagoya.    He lives around 6hrs So / West of
Tokyo.  He stated that Nagoya shook quite a bit, but every one is fine. The
damage was Tokyo, Yokohama, & north. The further north , the more damage.
Roads are buckled, power is off line, which includes all trains.
Things are pretty much of a stand still at this time.
Most of these things can be viewed on our T.V.
Now, there's a big concern about the nuclear reactors
at several power plants also.
I guess we'll have to wait & see.      I told Masaki to pass the word around. 
that we all send our best & were thinking about them.    
 
Take care,
Herb.
 
 

From poontang188 at hotmail.com  Mon Mar 14 11:29:35 2011
From: poontang188 at hotmail.com (Scott Sheeler)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:29:35 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Form another friend in Japan
Message-ID: <BAY164-w65DFC2066F022D589C7497FCCC0@phx.gbl>

>From my friend Takeshi who lives south of Tokyo...

I'm sorry that I didn't reply quickly. I'm fine. But I feel like crying.
Because this earthquake is unbelievable. Maybe 10,000 more peoples died. Very
sad.
> Now we plan to rebuild The Shinkansen super express structure. We can't
sleep every day.
> Thank you and sorry.
> Your friend Takeshi.
>
> Thank you and Thank you.

Scott Sheeler
http://thedatsunroadsterbook.com/

From lee_kroencke at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 14 17:58:36 2011
From: lee_kroencke at yahoo.com (LKroencke)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 17:58:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 1600 in Kansas
Message-ID: <854143.14830.qm@web161601.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

 
I hoped never to write this but it's time.
I have a 67.5 1600 that needs to go to a good home. I enjoyed the car as a
daily driver for several years, and then it has been garaged waiting for the
TLC it needs. I drove it into the garage, where it has set for a long time.
You will need to trailer it away. I also have a spare 4 speed transmission,
wiper motor, and extra set of SU carbs. I have many other parts that I have
accumulated over the years. I even have a hard fiberglass top too - just never
put the restoration work into her. No parting out - take it all.
If you are interested contact me off list. lee_kroencke at yahoo.com
 
Lee


 
 
 
Lee Kroencke
Lenexa, KS 66215
lee_kroencke at yahoo.com

From phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov  Mon Mar 14 18:09:53 2011
From: phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED10))
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:09:53 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] FW:  Charging Question - update
In-Reply-To: <C9A40EB3.79D6%phillip.b.hall@nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <C9A42691.79DC%phillip.b.hall@nasa.gov>

Hey Pete -

Many thanks for the forward reply!

Ok - went out and kept it running long enough to measure the voltage at the
battery and coil at about 1500 RPM

Battery = 14.71 volts
Coil     = 14.04 volts

This is high and as Dave said maybe overloading the coil.

Why is both the stock and GM overcharging?  I cleaned my battery connections
and reworked the grounds starting at the battery.  Even reworked the ground
to the starter.  Could a shorted plate in the battery cause this?  I have
never experienced overcharging like this even with a regulator stuck full
open.  Out to get the spare battery out (if it is still good), get it
charged and try it.

I did just replace the cap and rotor - obviously with no luck....

Thanks everyone for the suggestions!  Got to love issues like this to test
my mechanic ability... Ha.

Phil


On 3/14/11 5:29 PM, "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Phil,
>
> Here's some ideas from Dave, a roadster guy and ex-Datsun mechanic, who is
> not on the lists/forums.
>
> Pete

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Mon Mar 14 19:44:01 2011
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 22:44:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] FW:  Charging Question - update
In-Reply-To: <C9A42691.79DC%phillip.b.hall@nasa.gov>
References: <C9A42691.79DC%phillip.b.hall@nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <8CDB0D1F9E09D39-134C-5778@webmail-m047.sysops.aol.com>

 Phil,
I think the VR plug is not providing feedback that the battery is
overcharging. See if you take wires out of the connector to clean them or if
not, just spray electrical cleaner into the connectors with the battery
diconnected.
And VR needs to be grounded thru the case screws and an extra ground wire
helps too.
BTDT with my alt also

Linda






-----Original Message-----
From: Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED10) (MSFC-ED10) <phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov>
To: Datsun-Roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Mar 14, 2011 6:11 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] FW:  Charging Question - update


Hey Pete -

Many thanks for the forward reply!

Ok - went out and kept it running long enough to measure the voltage at the
battery and coil at about 1500 RPM

Battery = 14.71 volts
Coil     = 14.04 volts

This is high and as Dave said maybe overloading the coil.

Why is both the stock and GM overcharging?  I cleaned my battery connections
and reworked the grounds starting at the battery.  Even reworked the ground
to the starter.  Could a shorted plate in the battery cause this?  I have
never experienced overcharging like this even with a regulator stuck full
open.  Out to get the spare battery out (if it is still good), get it
charged and try it.

I did just replace the cap and rotor - obviously with no luck....

Thanks everyone for the suggestions!  Got to love issues like this to test
my mechanic ability... Ha.

Phil


On 3/14/11 5:29 PM, "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Phil,
>
> Here's some ideas from Dave, a roadster guy and ex-Datsun mechanic, who is
> not on the lists/forums.
>
> Pete
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From phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov  Tue Mar 15 04:57:32 2011
From: phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED10))
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 06:57:32 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Charging Question
In-Reply-To: <BLU160-ds2A55AFF7F6414A8762088D0CF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C9A4BE5C.79EB%phillip.b.hall@nasa.gov>

You bring up a good point Bob.

I had in my mind that 67.5 and up Roadsters had two wires to the coil.  One
is full voltage from the ignition switch in the 'start' position only and
the other is routed through the ballast resistor in the 'run' position.

I have not traced my wiring to confirm this, and the wiring schematics for
the 67.5 don't show it.  My coil does indeed have two wires going to the (+)
on the coil.  If these wire were switched, it would not stay running in the
'run' position.

Things keep pointing to a wrong ballast resistor......


On 3/15/11 3:52 AM, "bubwin at mymts.net" <bubwin at mymts.net> wrote:

> Are you running points?  Also check and make sure the feed to the coil when
> in run mode, comes from the Ballast resistor.  The ballast resistor should
> be cutting that voltage down at the coil, once started.  Acceptable
charging
> is usually considered around 14.2 v, give or take. (anything between
> 13.5-14.5 is good) Although a bit high, I don't think it's the cause of the
> problem.
>
> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED10)
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 7:27 AM
> To: Datsun-Roadsters
> Subject: [Roadsters] Charging Question
>
> So, on my 67.5 it was not charging very well.  The battery would last a few
> days then start to go down hill.  I replaced the regulator and drove it a
> few
> miles.  I picked up my daughter and on the way back the amp gage went to
> about
> 15 amps  charging, cool!  As this happened, the Roadster started getting a
> bad miss.  I pulled over thinking something came loose.  Found nothing and
> eventually unplugged the alternator and it ran great.
>
> This weekend I put on a one wire GM alt my son had  a new Powermaster
unit.
> Same thing......  Plugged in the car has a bad miss, unplugged it runs
> great.
>
> I have gone through and cleaned the plug from the starter (that powers my
> ignition), reworked my ground cables (stock locations  battery, block,
> frame,
> body), replaced the wire from the reastat to coil which was just holding on
> by
> 2 strands,,,,,,,  Every time I make something better it misses worse.   Now
> with the alternator plugged in, it misses bad  even back-firing through
the
> carbs.  Unplugged  runs great.
>
> I an going to check the voltage at the coil, but I did not have help and
> cant
> keep it running with the alt plugged in.
>
> Ideas????
>
> Phil
> SEROC

From tputland at charter.net  Tue Mar 15 12:50:31 2011
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:50:31 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] SRL engine lift points
Message-ID: <20110315155031.3BWUM.4583196.root@mp16>

Can someone send me a picture of the 2000 engine lift points (with the chain attachments shown) please?

Thanks

Tim
Dairyland Datsuns

From alvingogi at gmail.com  Tue Mar 15 13:16:39 2011
From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:16:39 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] SRL engine lift points
In-Reply-To: <20110315155031.3BWUM.4583196.root@mp16>
References: <20110315155031.3BWUM.4583196.root@mp16>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikfJrEsOBjjc1h+n5q4UwQQbgCoyL+juicZ2Bp5@mail.gmail.com>

http://news.webshots.com/album/187283730rqgSqK

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:

> Can someone send me a picture of the 2000 engine lift points (with the
> chain attachments shown) please?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tim
> Dairyland Datsuns
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From aultgc at att.net  Tue Mar 15 13:58:35 2011
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:58:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Driver's Side Motor Mount on Frame
Message-ID: <926162.49653.qm@web180203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I just looked at Alvin Gogoneni's response to the question about U20 lift
points, and I noticed that the driver's side motor mount on the frame has been
notched.  Viewed from above, with the front of the car being "up", the lower
right-hand (inboard) corner of the mount has been cut away.  My '66 1600 had a
similar alteration (made with a torch), as does my '67-1/2 2000.  I always
figured someone screwed up or got lazy when installing a motor.  Is it
necessary 
to have that corner of the motor mount removed to get an engine
back into the 
car?

(The U20 for my '66 is awaiting reinstallation.  While
the motor is out, I had a 
shop paint and detail the underhood area, and I had
them fix the motor mount at 
the same time.  I am beginning to wonder whether
the repair was a mistake, and 
I'd like to figure it out before I have the
motor and trans suspended from a 
chain fall over the car.)

Any thoughts will
be appreciated.  Thanks.

Gary

From keithddowning at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 15 14:33:00 2011
From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:33:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] SRL engine lift points
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikfJrEsOBjjc1h+n5q4UwQQbgCoyL+juicZ2Bp5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20110315155031.3BWUM.4583196.root@mp16>
	<AANLkTikfJrEsOBjjc1h+n5q4UwQQbgCoyL+juicZ2Bp5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <946120.60679.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Front sling is attaches to one of the bolts of the inspection cover at the
front 
of the head.  The rear sling is attaches to the upper and lower rear
most bolts 
of the exhaust manifold.  See pictures.

front:
http://fototime.com/619155FCA830A80/orig.jpg
http://fototime.com/8FE644467BA1F03/orig.jpg

rear:
http://fototime.com/D3461EAD5171E3D/orig.jpg
http://fototime.com/57A02524301DD5F/orig.jpg

Keith
________________________________
From: alvin gogineni <alvingogi at gmail.com>
To: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
Cc: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, March 15, 2011 1:16:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SRL engine lift points
http://news.webshots.com/album/187283730rqgSqK

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:50
PM, Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:

> Can someone send me a picture of the
2000 engine lift points (with the
> chain attachments shown) please?
>
>
Thanks
>
> Tim
> Dairyland Datsuns
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From poontang188 at hotmail.com  Tue Mar 15 16:22:36 2011
From: poontang188 at hotmail.com (Scott Sheeler)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 19:22:36 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Our Friends in Japan Need Our Help
Message-ID: <BAY164-w3584379BF2C180EE56519CFCCF0@phx.gbl>

Many members of this List have contacted Herb Petty and me regarding what we
can do for our friends in Japan and how are they.  Here is what we think all
the "Listers" should do.


Say a prayer to whatever God you believe in to help these people and their
Country through this terrible natural disaster.
Say another prayer for the health and well-being of all the thousands of
rescuers and aid workers searching the rubble for victims.
Call the American Red Cross or click this link www.redcross.org  and make a
donation to provide aid in their time of need.

The Japanese face many challenges in the coming months so let's help in the
best way possible through the American Red Cross.

Thanks.

Scott Sheeler
http://thedatsunroadsterbook.com/

From jake7140 at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 15 21:04:39 2011
From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:04:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Pickup FS or Trade in IL
In-Reply-To: <mailman.15430.1299511522.23296.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.15430.1299511522.23296.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <823734.96754.qm@web37901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

not mine... has some pics
http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/2265078509.html

one of a kind 1966 datsun pickup 
powered by ford 2.8 V6 C4 trans, datsun rearend 410 gear, 
hurst shifter, 5in. tach w/ shift lite, duel exhaust. has new 
wheels and tires, and a fresh brake job(about 3000 miles). 
the truck came from Nevada ( there is no rust anywhere) 
very relieable can drive it anyplace runs good, and does 
well at car shows. don't know what to call it a custom, a ratrod, 
hotrod, or just too cool. it's got a small gas tank but it gets 
good mpg. i'm 65 and starting to slow down a bit and i know 
how tight money is so lets trade.( car truck rv bike camper 
you tell me) 847-587-5819 
 Steve

Steve's racing web site
     www.NoNameRacing.com
Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society
     www.elrss.com

From d_kroninger at hotmail.com  Wed Mar 16 08:27:07 2011
From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:27:07 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Door sills
Message-ID: <BLU150-w33F71CFEE2100EBB2404A79BCE0@phx.gbl>

Everyone,

I wanted to follow up with everyone on my results.  I purchased a brass wire
brush, 0000 steel wool, and bar keepers friend.  I started with the steel wool
and bar keepers, then moved to the wire brush with the bar keepers.  That got
the sills really clean.  Then I polished with mothers power cone and powerball
metal polish creme.  They look a ton better, blindingly bright.  There are
still some small dents and nicks in the ridges, but otherwise they look great.
Thanks for all your advice.  I will try to get picks on facebook today.

Dan Kroninger
Dairyland Datsuns
68 1600

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Wed Mar 16 09:28:19 2011
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:28:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Door sills
In-Reply-To: <BLU150-w33F71CFEE2100EBB2404A79BCE0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU150-w33F71CFEE2100EBB2404A79BCE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8CDB20E4B2D3D4F-221C-3DD8C@webmail-m088.sysops.aol.com>

 What is bar keeper's friend?

Linda






-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Kroninger <d_kroninger at hotmail.com>
To: datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Mar 16, 2011 8:27 am
Subject: [Roadsters] Door sills


Everyone,

I wanted to follow up with everyone on my results.  I purchased a brass wire
brush, 0000 steel wool, and bar keepers friend.  I started with the steel
wool
and bar keepers, then moved to the wire brush with the bar keepers.  That got
the sills really clean.  Then I polished with mothers power cone and
powerball
metal polish creme.  They look a ton better, blindingly bright.  There are
still some small dents and nicks in the ridges, but otherwise they look
great.
Thanks for all your advice.  I will try to get picks on facebook today.

Dan Kroninger
Dairyland Datsuns
68 1600
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From Brad at lustigconsultingllc.com  Wed Mar 16 09:33:10 2011
From: Brad at lustigconsultingllc.com (Brad Lustig (brad@lustigconsultingllc.com))
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:33:10 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Door sills
In-Reply-To: <8CDB20E4B2D3D4F-221C-3DD8C@webmail-m088.sysops.aol.com>
References: <BLU150-w33F71CFEE2100EBB2404A79BCE0@phx.gbl>
	<8CDB20E4B2D3D4F-221C-3DD8C@webmail-m088.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <191D00BEB7748342820D55C9DBF97EEE471263A7C9@LCLLC-SERVER.lcllc.local>

You're missing out if you've never used Barkeepers' Friend!  It's similar to
Ajax, but doesn't have bleach.  It does have oxalic acid, though. Usually
right next to comet and ajax in the store, but in a gold cardboard can.

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
ljordan704 at netscape.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:28 PM
To: d_kroninger at hotmail.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Door sills

 What is bar keeper's friend?

Linda






-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Kroninger <d_kroninger at hotmail.com>
To: datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Mar 16, 2011 8:27 am
Subject: [Roadsters] Door sills


Everyone,

I wanted to follow up with everyone on my results.  I purchased a brass wire
brush, 0000 steel wool, and bar keepers friend.  I started with the steel
wool
and bar keepers, then moved to the wire brush with the bar keepers.  That got
the sills really clean.  Then I polished with mothers power cone and
powerball
metal polish creme.  They look a ton better, blindingly bright.  There are
still some small dents and nicks in the ridges, but otherwise they look
great.
Thanks for all your advice.  I will try to get picks on facebook today.

Dan Kroninger
Dairyland Datsuns
68 1600
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From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Wed Mar 16 10:42:18 2011
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:42:18 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Door sills
In-Reply-To: <8CDB20E4B2D3D4F-221C-3DD8C@webmail-m088.sysops.aol.com>
References: <BLU150-w33F71CFEE2100EBB2404A79BCE0@phx.gbl>
	<8CDB20E4B2D3D4F-221C-3DD8C@webmail-m088.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <69500BC7F75046218D4AFB5FC61B1F6A@BeansPC>

Short answer: Barkeeper's Friend contains Oxalic Acid. Look it up in
Wikipedia for more info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxalic_acid

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
ljordan704 at netscape.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 11:28 AM
To: d_kroninger at hotmail.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Door sills

 What is bar keeper's friend?

Linda






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From: Dan Kroninger <d_kroninger at hotmail.com>
To: datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Mar 16, 2011 8:27 am
Subject: [Roadsters] Door sills


Everyone,

I wanted to follow up with everyone on my results.  I purchased a brass wire
brush, 0000 steel wool, and bar keepers friend.  I started with the steel
wool
and bar keepers, then moved to the wire brush with the bar keepers.  That
got
the sills really clean.  Then I polished with mothers power cone and
powerball
metal polish creme.  They look a ton better, blindingly bright.  There are
still some small dents and nicks in the ridges, but otherwise they look
great.
Thanks for all your advice.  I will try to get picks on facebook today.

Dan Kroninger
Dairyland Datsuns
68 1600
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From d_kroninger at hotmail.com  Wed Mar 16 12:39:14 2011
From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 14:39:14 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Door sills
Message-ID: <BLU150-w4018296F69442E464E778D9BCE0@phx.gbl>

All,

I sent this earlier, I didnt see it hit the list.

I was going to clear the valve cover because I plan to paint the area between
the fins black.

I didn't know the about the rest, I commented more below..


They now offer bar keepers friend in liquid form, which was perfect for this
purpose!

The wire brush I used was a small hand held one that I bought at the local
menards (home depot type store).  I wanted a small brush because I also used
it to get into the ribs of the 1600 valve cover.

I did not use any polished metal protector.  Is this recommended?  I figure
now that the 40  years of grime is gone, a quick rub down should do the trick
(that's what he said)

From jover4x4 at aol.com  Wed Mar 16 15:16:11 2011
From: jover4x4 at aol.com (Jover4x4)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 18:16:11 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Roadsters and Z cars........ Z the Difference
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikD2v45ctp_u15gN8QukLSoKcm70YHNzB9mqnqs@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim4h09nKi-VbxJd8u+QePi16uMS5FpwhdfQioGx@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikD2v45ctp_u15gN8QukLSoKcm70YHNzB9mqnqs@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CDB23EE3CAD49F-F7C-4094C@webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com>

I don't usually forward to the group.  Sorry for the bandwidth but I think
this is a worthy cause relevant to all of us. See and consider the note from
my brother below.

Thank you.

John Over
67 2000 #335
76 280z V8
www.wycroc.org
www.zccc.org








bZb the Difference
Everyone,
Please join me in supporting the Japan Relief and Recovery Effort. I was
listening to a Christian radio station this morning, and I started to try and
imagine what it must be like in Japan right now, but I canbt!!! I started
thinking of ways to donate, and how to encourage others to participate, which
is when I thought of my history with Datsun/Nissan, and their enthusiasts.
My dad, George, worked for Datsun/Nissan for 24 years from 1972 until 1996,
when he retired. I have literally grown up with Datsun/Nissan, I still
continue to own their products (we have a 240Z, Quest, and a Titan), and I am
currently a member of the Z Car Club of Colorado, and an internet group called
ZRoad.
This got me thinking about all of the people who have an interest, and/or
passion for Datsun/Nissan products. I figured that if I challenged every one
of you whom I know, in one way or another from these groups, we could raise a
significant amount of money to send to Japan to assist in their needs.
Here is my challenge...I donated $100, so I would challenge all of you to do
the same! I know that times are hard and budgets are tight, so if you canbt
meet the challenge of $100 please donate whatever amount you are able to give.
EVERY DOLLAR COUNTS!!! I will not be accepting any money myself, or tracking
the number or amount of the donations, but this is just my way of trying to
make a difference in wake of a terrible disaster! Pass this along to anyone
you can think of who might be interested in donating. This does not have to be
just a "car" thing!!
I am currently taking an Emergency Medical Technician (EMT) course, which led
me to think about the need for medical assistance, as well as other needs, so
I have selected Direct Relief International as the charity for my challenge. I
have attached a press release with more information about Direct Relief
International. Here is a link to their website as well.
http://www.directrelief.org/

To donate online, please go to:
https://secure2.convio.net/dri/site/Donation2?idb=67903088&df_id=1700&1700.do
nation=form1&JServSessionIdr004=oesoz905q1.app244b
Letbs join together out of our interest, and/or passion, for Japanese cars
and...
bZb the Difference we can make!!


Thanks for considering my challenge!!! Pass this along and let's make a
difference together!
Bruce Over



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From jeffzster at yahoo.com  Wed Mar 16 22:20:19 2011
From: jeffzster at yahoo.com (Jeff Torres)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 22:20:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator option
Message-ID: <271358.78630.qm@web110412.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hello All!
 
Looking for an Alternator option other than stock and smaller than the GM
single wire option. Has anyone done an alternator swap using a Japanese
alternator which was easy to mod, readily available, and has the amperage of
the GM or close to it. This is for an R16 motor. Thanks!
 
Jeff

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Mar 16 23:25:11 2011
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 23:25:11 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator option
In-Reply-To: <271358.78630.qm@web110412.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <271358.78630.qm@web110412.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <008501cbe46c$12b788d0$38269a70$@net>

I've wondered the same thing. Check this pic out:

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s263/datsunlb110/altornaters.jpg

>From left to right: 35A 521, 60A Z, 90A KA24E. Notice the spacing is the
same on all of them. The Saturn alt (really a GM/Delco CS-130) is the other
one that's commonly used when upgrading the alt on L-series motors.

Then there's the Subaru Justy alt that Michael uses on his SR20 conversions.

All something to think about.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Torres
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 10:20 PM
To: Datsun Roadster Mail
Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator option

Hello All!
 
Looking for an Alternator option other than stock and smaller than the GM
single wire option. Has anyone done an alternator swap using a Japanese
alternator which was easy to mod, readily available, and has the amperage of
the GM or close to it. This is for an R16 motor. Thanks!
 
Jeff
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From harris_seq at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 17 04:41:50 2011
From: harris_seq at yahoo.com (Mike Harris)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 04:41:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator option
Message-ID: <365703.21884.qm@web113807.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Check out the web site below I've used these alternators in several race
applications and never had a problem (you might find it cheaper if you shop
around)

www.cvproducts.com/ProdDet.aspx?PN=PM8102
Powermaster Race Alternator, Internal Regulator, 60 Amp, Natural,
Nippondenso.


--- On Thu, 3/17/11, Jeff Torres <jeffzster at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Jeff Torres <jeffzster at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator option
> To: "Datsun Roadster Mail" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 12:20 AM
> Hello All!
> 
> Looking for an Alternator option other than stock and
> smaller than the GM
> single wire option. Has anyone done an alternator swap
> using a Japanese
> alternator which was easy to mod, readily available, and
> has the amperage of
> the GM or close to it. This is for an R16 motor. Thanks!
> 
> Jeff
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From phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov  Thu Mar 17 04:56:43 2011
From: phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED10))
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 06:56:43 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator option
In-Reply-To: <008501cbe46c$12b788d0$38269a70$@net>
Message-ID: <C9A7612B.7A7F%phillip.b.hall@nasa.gov>

I hear ya!

I just put a GM on my 67 and it is too big-ish.  I say 'ish' because it does
work and ok.  You can buy nice, small one wire GM fit alternator from Summit
and Jegs, but they are pricy.

Also, not sure what year you have, but the pictures Pete put up are the
early alt.  The late are moved forward and have a large single mounting
point at the front of the alternator.


On 3/17/11 1:25 AM, "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:

> I've wondered the same thing. Check this pic out:
>
> http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s263/datsunlb110/altornaters.jpg
>
>> From left to right: 35A 521, 60A Z, 90A KA24E. Notice the spacing is the
> same on all of them. The Saturn alt (really a GM/Delco CS-130) is the other
> one that's commonly used when upgrading the alt on L-series motors.
>
> Then there's the Subaru Justy alt that Michael uses on his SR20
conversions.
>
> All something to think about.
>
> Pete
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Torres
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 10:20 PM
> To: Datsun Roadster Mail
> Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator option
>
> Hello All!
>
> Looking for an Alternator option other than stock and smaller than the GM
> single wire option. Has anyone done an alternator swap using a Japanese
> alternator which was easy to mod, readily available, and has the amperage
of
> the GM or close to it. This is for an R16 motor. Thanks!
>
> Jeff

From lee.ehinger at frontier.com  Thu Mar 17 08:58:53 2011
From: lee.ehinger at frontier.com (Lee Ehinger)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:58:53 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator option
In-Reply-To: <271358.78630.qm@web110412.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <103B5D5CE56242C0BAE0542AEE0E262F@ehingerhome>

I upgraded my 70 240z (35a) alternator with a later (80a) 280zx unit -
internal regulated.

This keeps a smaller profile alternator with higher output & eliminated the
voltage regulator.

Take a look at this link:
http://forums.hybridz.org/index.php/topic/95494-240z-to-280zx-alternator-upg
rade/page__p__898235__hl__%2Balternator+%2Bupgrade__fromsearch__1#entry89823
5


This describes what it does.
http://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/PROD/LNP1/12-4068

 I believe I have more detail from the person who built this.

DISCLAIMER
I DO NOT KNOW if it will work with a rdster!!!

I used it on my Z - worked GREAT!
-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Torres
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 1:20 AM
To: Datsun Roadster Mail
Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator option

Hello All!

Looking for an Alternator option other than stock and smaller than the GM
single wire option. Has anyone done an alternator swap using a Japanese
alternator which was easy to mod, readily available, and has the amperage of
the GM or close to it. This is for an R16 motor. Thanks!

Jeff
________________________________________

From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Thu Mar 17 09:26:28 2011
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:26:28 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Giving to Crisis in Japan
Message-ID: <AANLkTimzAweh8zigisZt-wNii=6=-9jnKPrmxeiAeC-p@mail.gmail.com>

As a Japanese Car Club The Southern California Datsun Roadster Owners Club
wants to make it easy for you to give to the aid of Japan and has added a
link to their website to where you can make a donation directly to the
cause.

www.socalroc.net

-- 
If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Datsun, then you are lucky
enough.

From lee.ehinger at frontier.com  Thu Mar 17 10:59:32 2011
From: lee.ehinger at frontier.com (Lee Ehinger)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:59:32 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator option
In-Reply-To: <103B5D5CE56242C0BAE0542AEE0E262F@ehingerhome>
Message-ID: <933A1BC3C3464B15B253BB4E5437CC27@ehingerhome>

Another link with description I used a NAPA rebuilt alternator on the 2nd
car I did.

http://www.classiczcars.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=11

Lee Ehinger
Ft Wayne IN
70 240z
67.5 2000

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lee Ehinger
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 11:59 AM
To: 'Jeff Torres'; 'Datsun Roadster Mail'
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Alternator option

I upgraded my 70 240z (35a) alternator with a later (80a) 280zx unit -
internal regulated.

This keeps a smaller profile alternator with higher output & eliminated the
voltage regulator.

Take a look at this link:
http://forums.hybridz.org/index.php/topic/95494-240z-to-280zx-alternator-upg
rade/page__p__898235__hl__%2Balternator+%2Bupgrade__fromsearch__1#entry89823
5


This describes what it does.
http://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/PROD/LNP1/12-4068

 I believe I have more detail from the person who built this.

DISCLAIMER
I DO NOT KNOW if it will work with a rdster!!!

I used it on my Z - worked GREAT!
-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Torres
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 1:20 AM
To: Datsun Roadster Mail
Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator option

Hello All!

Looking for an Alternator option other than stock and smaller than the GM
single wire option. Has anyone done an alternator swap using a Japanese
alternator which was easy to mod, readily available, and has the amperage of
the GM or close to it. This is for an R16 motor. Thanks!

Jeff
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From chalsted at comcast.net  Thu Mar 17 14:56:44 2011
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 21:56:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] anyone near Great Falls Montana?
Message-ID: <2053983594.1763234.1300399004711.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

I was hoping someone on the list could possibly take a run to Great Falls Montana to look at a vehicle for me- have a feeling it's a scam and doing my due diligence but if someone could go and look and put their hands on it and check out the paperwork I'd feel a lot better. anyone live up that way or have friends who live up that way? any and all help is mightily appreciated. 
Thanks, 
Craig 

From chalsted at comcast.net  Thu Mar 17 15:10:31 2011
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:10:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] anyone near Great Falls Montana?
In-Reply-To: <2053983594.1763234.1300399004711.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <759102947.1763736.1300399831215.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

never mind, it's a scam...guy has the same vehicle listed on Craigslist all over the counrty...due diligence is a good thing ;-) 
Thanks, 
Craig 
there's a sucker born every minute- fortunately today it 

From gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com  Thu Mar 17 19:24:14 2011
From: gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com (Gordon Maness)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 21:24:14 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Japan
In-Reply-To: <mailman.17974.1300384786.23296.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.17974.1300384786.23296.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <SNT137-w57D104A26FF9457A9A7824B2B00@phx.gbl>

Way off topic.

I 'googled' the charity that Bruce recomended, they show up as outstanding.

Here is a link to before and after satlite pictures, wait till they are
loaded.
There will be a divider in the center of the picture, you click and hold the
center and scan to the before and after.


http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/03/13/world/asia/satellite-photos-jap
an-before-and-after-tsunami.html?hp

g With the fleet.

From johnpavone at cableone.net  Fri Mar 18 07:11:08 2011
From: johnpavone at cableone.net (John Pavone)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:11:08 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 67 1/2 2000 for sale
Message-ID: <000001cbe576$55178ee0$ff46aca0$@net>

Much to my dismay I have decided to sell my 19 67 = 2000 . This car has
undergone a complete three year restoration and is absolutely perfect. I
have invested over 70k ( documented)  and I feel that this is probably the
nicest 2000 on the planet- not because its mine but because I made a
decision to do the car 100%. The car can be seen on Datsun.org and the
current asking price is 55k. I wanted to offer this to my fellow Datsun
enthusiasts before I take it to the retail market and internet sale route.
If anyone is interested I can send you complete information and over 100
photos of the  restoration



All the best



JOHN P PAVONE, C.H.A, C.H.S.E

PRESIDENT



SIGNATURE MANAGEMENT GROUP L.L.C

PHONE 712 239 4546

FAX 712 239 3303

CELL 712 223 2011

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From alagams at juno.com  Fri Mar 18 10:11:58 2011
From: alagams at juno.com (alagams at juno.com)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 17:11:58 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] 67 1/2 2000 for sale
Message-ID: <20110318.131158.15374.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>

Beautiful car!

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "John Pavone" <johnpavone at cableone.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Roadsters] 67 1/2 2000 for sale
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:11:08 -0500

Much to my dismay I have decided to sell my 19 67 = 2000 . This car has
undergone a complete three year restoration and is absolutely perfect. I
have invested over 70k ( documented)  and I feel that this is probably the
nicest 2000 on the planet- not because its mine but because I made a
decision to do the car 100%. The car can be seen on Datsun.org and the
current asking price is 55k. I wanted to offer this to my fellow Datsun
enthusiasts before I take it to the retail market and internet sale route.
If anyone is interested I can send you complete information and over 100
photos of the  restoration



All the best



JOHN P PAVONE, C.H.A, C.H.S.E

PRESIDENT



SIGNATURE MANAGEMENT GROUP L.L.C

PHONE 712 239 4546

FAX 712 239 3303

CELL 712 223 2011

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From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com  Fri Mar 18 10:23:36 2011
From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 10:23:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] 67 1/2 2000 for sale
In-Reply-To: <000001cbe576$55178ee0$ff46aca0$@net>
Message-ID: <598.56005.qm@web130221.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I do NOT want to start a flame war, and I will be the first to say that this
is a fabulous looking roadster.  If I had unlimited funds, I would buy it and
not bat an eye - OK?
 
BUT man, you have got to TRY to spend $70K restoring a Datsun Roadster!  Not
that is cannot be done, mind you, but give me a good $3000 car for starts and
$25k to spend, and I think I can make a perfect car out of it - just
saying.....

 
Mike Harper, CAI, AARE
Harper Auction & Realty
843-729-4996
"Experience Sells"

www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET
 
 

--- On Fri, 3/18/11, John Pavone <johnpavone at cableone.net> wrote:


From: John Pavone <johnpavone at cableone.net>
Subject: [Roadsters] 67 1/2 2000 for sale
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 10:11 AM


Much to my dismay I have decided to sell my 19 67 = 2000 . This car has
undergone a complete three year restoration and is absolutely perfect. I
have invested over 70k ( documented)  and I feel that this is probably the
nicest 2000 on the planet- not because its mine but because I made a
decision to do the car 100%. The car can be seen on Datsun.org and the
current asking price is 55k. I wanted to offer this to my fellow Datsun
enthusiasts before I take it to the retail market and internet sale route.
If anyone is interested I can send you complete information and over 100
photos of the  restoration



All the best



JOHN P PAVONE, C.H.A, C.H.S.E

PRESIDENT



SIGNATURE MANAGEMENT GROUP L.L.C

PHONE 712 239 4546

FAX 712 239 3303

CELL 712 223 2011

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From solex675 at hotmail.com  Fri Mar 18 11:06:27 2011
From: solex675 at hotmail.com (Andrew Murphy)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:06:27 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 67 1/2 2000 for sale
In-Reply-To: <598.56005.qm@web130221.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <000001cbe576$55178ee0$ff46aca0$@net>,
	<598.56005.qm@web130221.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU156-w42929EF12E72FAEF09223096B00@phx.gbl>

I am also not attempting to get into a flame war, but I will say that unless
you do every bit of work yourself you will not be able to restore a car for
70K.

You have to think about things like:

Cleaning the car to bare metal and removing rust - maybe even acid dipping to
kill the rust. Then preparing and sealing the body
All of the work welding and fixing the frame - not to mention powder coat
costs.
Unless you are a mechanic - the costs to rebuild a U20 power train with all
new parts like chains and tensioners - that adds up.
Interior costs, wiring, all of the above.

I'm "just sayin'" that there is NO way you could reproduce a fully restored 67
200 for 55k. No way.

How do I know?

Been there, done that.

Andrew Murphy

1966 1600
And a restorer of a 67 2000 - and I have the scars to prove it!

> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 10:23:36 -0700
> From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; johnpavone at cableone.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 67 1/2 2000 for sale
>
> I do NOT want to start a flame war, and I will be the first to say that
this
> is a fabulous looking roadster.  If I had unlimited funds, I would buy it
and
> not bat an eye - OK?
>
> BUT man, you have got to TRY to spend $70K restoring a Datsun Roadster!
Not
> that is cannot be done, mind you, but give me a good $3000 car for starts
and
> $25k to spend, and I think I can make a perfect car out of it - just
> saying.....
>
>
> Mike Harper, CAI, AARE
> Harper Auction & Realty
> 843-729-4996
> "Experience Sells"
>
> www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 3/18/11, John Pavone <johnpavone at cableone.net> wrote:
>
>
> From: John Pavone <johnpavone at cableone.net>
> Subject: [Roadsters] 67 1/2 2000 for sale
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 10:11 AM
>
>
> Much to my dismay I have decided to sell my 19 67 = 2000 . This car has
> undergone a complete three year restoration and is absolutely perfect. I
> have invested over 70k ( documented)  and I feel that this is probably the
> nicest 2000 on the planet- not because its mine but because I made a
> decision to do the car 100%. The car can be seen on Datsun.org and the
> current asking price is 55k. I wanted to offer this to my fellow Datsun
> enthusiasts before I take it to the retail market and internet sale route.
> If anyone is interested I can send you complete information and over 100
> photos of the  restoration
>
>
>
> All the best
>
>
>
> JOHN P PAVONE, C.H.A, C.H.S.E
>
> PRESIDENT
>
>
>
> SIGNATURE MANAGEMENT GROUP L.L.C
>
> PHONE 712 239 4546
>
> FAX 712 239 3303
>
> CELL 712 223 2011

From alvingogi at gmail.com  Fri Mar 18 11:38:23 2011
From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:38:23 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 67 1/2 2000 for sale
In-Reply-To: <598.56005.qm@web130221.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <000001cbe576$55178ee0$ff46aca0$@net>
	<598.56005.qm@web130221.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim=OVgKSckuBRKwXSaa3c=SfKnoXEjh7Ufkn8t1@mail.gmail.com>

Lots of variables here, like condition of the project and cost to source
rare or NLA parts. Here's my breakdown assuming you can find COMPLETE "said"
67.5 SRL project car for $3k, and you are doing a 100-point(or close)
frame-off with no shortcuts and attention to detail:

car: $3k
Gauges: $2k
Interior with correct pieces: $5k
Body paint: $5k
Frame prep: $1k
Drivetrain: $7k(with comp package higher)
Chassis prep including suspension/braking/hydraulic: $6k
All Chrome trim/pieces: $5k
Glass: $1k?

I think that's $40k, WITHOUT labor. I'd estimate turn-key labor(200hrs???)
to be $20k, I could be way off.





On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Mike Harper <roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com>wrote:

> I do NOT want to start a flame war, and I will be the first to say that
> this
> is a fabulous looking roadster.  If I had unlimited funds, I would buy it
> and
> not bat an eye - OK?
>
> BUT man, you have got to TRY to spend $70K restoring a Datsun Roadster!
>  Not
> that is cannot be done, mind you, but give me a good $3000 car for starts
> and
> $25k to spend, and I think I can make a perfect car out of it - just
> saying.....
>
>
> Mike Harper, CAI, AARE
> Harper Auction & Realty
> 843-729-4996
> "Experience Sells"
>
> www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 3/18/11, John Pavone <johnpavone at cableone.net> wrote:
>
>
> From: John Pavone <johnpavone at cableone.net>
> Subject: [Roadsters] 67 1/2 2000 for sale
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 10:11 AM
>
>
> Much to my dismay I have decided to sell my 19 67 = 2000 . This car has
> undergone a complete three year restoration and is absolutely perfect. I
> have invested over 70k ( documented)  and I feel that this is probably the
> nicest 2000 on the planet- not because its mine but because I made a
> decision to do the car 100%. The car can be seen on Datsun.org and the
> current asking price is 55k. I wanted to offer this to my fellow Datsun
> enthusiasts before I take it to the retail market and internet sale route.
> If anyone is interested I can send you complete information and over 100
> photos of the  restoration
>
>
>
> All the best
>
>
>
> JOHN P PAVONE, C.H.A, C.H.S.E
>
> PRESIDENT
>
>
>
> SIGNATURE MANAGEMENT GROUP L.L.C
>
> PHONE 712 239 4546
>
> FAX 712 239 3303
>
> CELL 712 223 2011
>
> www.signature-managementgroup.com
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From johnpavone at cableone.net  Sat Mar 19 06:48:39 2011
From: johnpavone at cableone.net (John Pavone)
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 08:48:39 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 67 1/2 2000 for sale
In-Reply-To: <640F1DB0-FEA5-4C8B-B369-5DF7D31F7A02@aol.com>
References: <598.56005.qm@web130221.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<640F1DB0-FEA5-4C8B-B369-5DF7D31F7A02@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001801cbe63c$5b888150$129983f0$@net>

www.redstickautoclassics.com then to Datsun listing . Under the tab More
info you will see what was done Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: ljordan704 at aol.com [mailto:ljordan704 at aol.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 3:04 PM
To: mike at harperauctionandrealty.com
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; John Pavone
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 67 1/2 2000 for sale

That must be a total resto without any DIY involvement.
Linda

Sent from my iPod

On Mar 18, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Mike Harper <roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> I do NOT want to start a flame war, and I will be the first to say that
this
> is a fabulous looking roadster.  If I had unlimited funds, I would buy it
and
> not bat an eye - OK?
> 
> BUT man, you have got to TRY to spend $70K restoring a Datsun Roadster!
Not
> that is cannot be done, mind you, but give me a good $3000 car for starts
and
> $25k to spend, and I think I can make a perfect car out of it - just
> saying.....
> 
> 
> Mike Harper, CAI, AARE
> Harper Auction & Realty
> 843-729-4996
> "Experience Sells"
> 
> www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 3/18/11, John Pavone <johnpavone at cableone.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: John Pavone <johnpavone at cableone.net>
> Subject: [Roadsters] 67 1/2 2000 for sale
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 10:11 AM
> 
> 
> Much to my dismay I have decided to sell my 19 67 = 2000 . This car has
> undergone a complete three year restoration and is absolutely perfect. I
> have invested over 70k ( documented)  and I feel that this is probably the
> nicest 2000 on the planet- not because its mine but because I made a
> decision to do the car 100%. The car can be seen on Datsun.org and the
> current asking price is 55k. I wanted to offer this to my fellow Datsun
> enthusiasts before I take it to the retail market and internet sale route.
> If anyone is interested I can send you complete information and over 100
> photos of the  restoration
> 
> 
> 
> All the best
> 
> 
> 
> JOHN P PAVONE, C.H.A, C.H.S.E
> 
> PRESIDENT
> 
> 
> 
> SIGNATURE MANAGEMENT GROUP L.L.C
> 
> PHONE 712 239 4546
> 
> FAX 712 239 3303
> 
> CELL 712 223 2011
> 
> www.signature-managementgroup.com
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From dave at ranteer.com  Sun Mar 20 08:05:06 2011
From: dave at ranteer.com (Dave)
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 10:05:06 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 69 roadsters on craigslist in Dallas
Message-ID: <BEAA69920EE74388BCFDDD0178DBEC77@ranteer.local>

o;?these are not my cars.  nfi, no nothing

http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/2267896458.html

she sent me some more pictures.  they look awful

the 1600 she references is a race car with the usual kind of race car mods

apparently the cars have been sitting under trees.  the 2000 engine has no
manifold, carbs, etc.  the 1600 engine compartment looks like the winter
storage for a pack of squirrels.  she said to me bthe engines do not turn
over but they are restorable.b  I think thatbs optimistic.

I can forward you the pictures she sent me, and if someone is interested I
could probably go look.

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Sun Mar 20 12:33:51 2011
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 15:33:51 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 69 roadsters on craigslist in Dallas
In-Reply-To: <BEAA69920EE74388BCFDDD0178DBEC77@ranteer.local>
References: <BEAA69920EE74388BCFDDD0178DBEC77@ranteer.local>
Message-ID: <000001cbe735$bf0b8fc0$3d22af40$@net>

  Why do folks post photos without taking a hose to the car first?  Just
looking at the photos, the car looks more like a $500 parts car than a
restorable project.  And why bother to mention a 1600 'race' car and not
include at least one photo of it?

MHO,
Paul
Ohio

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 11:05 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] 69 roadsters on craigslist in Dallas

o;?these are not my cars.  nfi, no nothing

http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/2267896458.html

she sent me some more pictures.  they look awful

the 1600 she references is a race car with the usual kind of race car mods

apparently the cars have been sitting under trees.  the 2000 engine has no
manifold, carbs, etc.  the 1600 engine compartment looks like the winter
storage for a pack of squirrels.  she said to me bthe engines do not turn
over but they are restorable.b  I think thatbs optimistic.

I can forward you the pictures she sent me, and if someone is interested I
could probably go look.
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From gcallahan at prodigy.net  Sun Mar 20 22:56:46 2011
From: gcallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan)
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 22:56:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: My 1981 Ford 4x4 is For Sale
Message-ID: <939753.69641.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

http://tinyurl.com/1981Ford4x4
 
Due to ever increasing financial problems, not only have I recently had to
sell my 1968 1600, but now I must also sell my favorite off-road vehicle.  If
any of you know of anyone who might be interested in a great project vehicle,
follow the above link to take a look at my 1981 Ford F-150 4x4.  It is
currently a little worse for wear, but with a little TLC could be a fun
off-road truck again.  Thanks!


Gary Callahan
Beaverton, Oregon
 
Former owner of:
1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster
SPL311-18665

From dave at ranteer.com  Sun Mar 20 20:17:15 2011
From: dave at ranteer.com (Dave)
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 22:17:15 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] driving lights
Message-ID: <94BB24ED99834B9194079F4FF2954F54@ranteer.local>

o;?Ibd like to put driving lights on the car in place of the fog lights
since it didnbt come with any.

on an early 67 roadster, are 55w driving lights too much for the stock
alternator?  it will have its own fuse, relay, wiring, etc.

thanks

From phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov  Mon Mar 21 05:23:50 2011
From: phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED10))
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 07:23:50 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Charging Question
In-Reply-To: <BLU160-ds20F21F1075D3D076646394D0B30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C9ACAD86.7B29%phillip.b.hall@nasa.gov>

Hey Bob -

I replied with my iPhone but got a bounce...

Yes and no....

I took the ballast resistor off my son's Z and tried it.  I still got over
14 volts at the coil.  Then it dawned on me that the 'start' and 'run' wires
could indeed be switched at the coil/ballast resistor.  I did a quick check
and they were.....  Ahhhh,,, I knew it had to be simple....  I bought a 2
ohn resistor from NAPA (they said these are being phased out of stock...)
and installed with the wires correct.  Now it runs great with 11 volts at
the coil.

Thanks for the help Bob, and everyone.  Getting a new pass from security
today so I can start driving it to work.  The weather is finally warm!

Phil
SEROC


On 3/19/11 3:35 PM, "bubwin at mymts.net" <bubwin at mymts.net> wrote:

> Did the new Ballast resistor work for you?
>
> Bob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED10)
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 6:54 AM
> To: bubwin at mymts.net ; Datsun-Roadsters
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Charging Question
>
> Yep - Think that is it.  I took it off last night and got a good
measurement
> and it was at 1 ohm.  I will grab another one and try it - think my son's Z
> in the back yard has one.  Looked through my stuff last night and could not
> find one - time to clean my shop....
>
>
> On 3/15/11 11:28 PM, "bubwin at mymts.net" <bubwin at mymts.net> wrote:
>
>> That's what it sounds like, the points would likely be arcing at 14 volts,
>> and not triggering the coil at the right time.  It would actually fire
>> late,
>> if at all, this is just like trying to run with little to no point gap,
>> retarded timing, and very little dwell angle.
>>
>> Bob

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Mon Mar 21 08:46:25 2011
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 08:46:25 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] driving lights
In-Reply-To: <94BB24ED99834B9194079F4FF2954F54@ranteer.local>
References: <94BB24ED99834B9194079F4FF2954F54@ranteer.local>
Message-ID: <000001cbe7df$27b5f2f0$7721d8d0$@net>

I have run 55w driving lights in addition to 55w halogen headlights and
never had any problems. However, at the time I installed the lights, I also
replaced all wiring harnesses with new ones.

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 8:17 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] driving lights

o;?Ibd like to put driving lights on the car in place of the fog lights
since it didnbt come with any.

on an early 67 roadster, are 55w driving lights too much for the stock
alternator?  it will have its own fuse, relay, wiring, etc.

thanks
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From alvingogi at gmail.com  Tue Mar 22 19:25:28 2011
From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 19:25:28 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Laguna Seca 4/19 CHEAP
Message-ID: <AANLkTimfhGBTAwTvfOm+4aWU31P_QRHiNR8meqXPzPtb@mail.gmail.com>

$172 is dirt cheap for the famous Laguna Seca Raceway!
http://www.ncracing.org/

several of us are already reg'd and there is still room so let's see those
roadsters out on the track!

From rabush2000 at hotmail.com  Tue Mar 22 20:07:45 2011
From: rabush2000 at hotmail.com (richard bush)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 03:07:45 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster Parts - "Senders"
In-Reply-To: <8994A925FD93466BA09D15DE3317B5DF@HPW>
References: <SNT106-W42EC849115BD8C24E293ADDFBA0@phx.gbl>,
	<8994A925FD93466BA09D15DE3317B5DF@HPW>
Message-ID: <BAY159-w894B8406EB15D4C7DAC86D2B70@phx.gbl>

Greetings to all,
I am in need of both a temperature sender and an oil pressure sender. Seems my gauges will work if I can replace these.
Does anyone know where I can purchase them for a 67 2000?
Thanks,
Rick

R A Bush, P O Box 500003
Dubai, UAE; cell: ++971 50 456 4357 

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Wed Mar 23 07:48:21 2011
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 10:48:21 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] MidOhio Vintage GP
Message-ID: <006001cbe969$5bb5f380$1321da80$@net>

  Never too early to make plans.  The MidOhio Vintage GP will be June 24 -
26th this summer.  Not sure if I'll be a spectator or a crew member this
summer, but Saturday evening will be a roadster gathering at my place.
Last summer we had a nice crowd, including a Silva!  My place is only about
20 minutes south of the track and if anyone is looking for overnight
accommodations, check out the Rose Heart Inn B&B in Mount Gilead.  They are
only 5 minutes from my place and some of the Dairyland Datsun folks stayed
there last summer.  Nice old house and great hosts.

  Any questions, shoot me a line and I'll do my best to answer.  Any ticket
or track questions can probably be answered at MidOhio.com.

 

Paul

Ohio

From shas1983 at netzero.net  Wed Mar 23 09:28:45 2011
From: shas1983 at netzero.net (shas1983 at netzero.net)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:28:45 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] simple measure to set late styile floats on 2000 SU's
Message-ID: <20110323.092845.4273.1@webmail01.dca.untd.com>

I am certain I have seen someone referring to using a specific drill bit size
to accurately set the float levels on 2000 SU's. My car has the newer style
plastic floats with the attached arm. If anyone knows this or a specific trick
it would be great. Trying to subjectively determine when the arm contacts the
pin is not very exact. Thanks Jon
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Mar 23 10:31:47 2011
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 10:31:47 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] simple measure to set late styile floats on 2000
 SU's
In-Reply-To: <20110323.092845.4273.1@webmail01.dca.untd.com>
References: <20110323.092845.4273.1@webmail01.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <003f01cbe980$30734ee0$9159eca0$@net>

The 311s.org FAQ says 1/8-inch drill bit, but there's some further
discussion:

http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2561&hilit=float+level+drill

...and the two posts in this thread:

http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9866&p=74862&hilit=float+leve
l+drill#p74862



Pete



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Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 9:29 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] simple measure to set late styile floats on 2000 SU's

I am certain I have seen someone referring to using a specific drill bit
size
to accurately set the float levels on 2000 SU's. My car has the newer style
plastic floats with the attached arm. If anyone knows this or a specific
trick
it would be great. Trying to subjectively determine when the arm contacts
the
pin is not very exact. Thanks Jon
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From tputland at charter.net  Wed Mar 23 10:47:29 2011
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 13:47:29 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] clutch hydrolic fluid
Message-ID: <20110323134729.9IHTN.978926.root@mp12>

Is pitch black fluid alone in the clutch system enough to cause slippage?

Thanks

Tim

From pat at hornesystemstx.com  Wed Mar 23 11:56:19 2011
From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 13:56:19 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] clutch hydrolic fluid
In-Reply-To: <20110323134729.9IHTN.978926.root@mp12>
References: <20110323134729.9IHTN.978926.root@mp12>
Message-ID: <4D8A4253.8020203@hornesystemstx.com>

Tim,

Nope, the clutch fluid doesn't get into the clutch itself. Any slippage 
will normally be because the clutch is worn out, or much less often, the 
clutch master cylinder pedal rod is not allowing the vent hole in the 
master cylinder to open.

Peace,
Pat


Thusly spake Tim, On 3/23/2011 12:47 PM:
> Is pitch black fluid alone in the clutch system enough to cause slippage?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tim
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From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Wed Mar 23 12:02:57 2011
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 12:02:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] clutch hydrolic fluid
In-Reply-To: <20110323134729.9IHTN.978926.root@mp12>
Message-ID: <528627.80059.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Only if it is getting onto the clutch plates ;^)

--- On Wed, 3/23/11, Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:

From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
Subject: [Roadsters] clutch hydrolic fluid
To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 10:47 AM

Is pitch black fluid alone in the clutch system enough to cause slippage?

Thanks

Tim
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From tputland at charter.net  Wed Mar 23 12:16:26 2011
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 12:16:26 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] clutch hydraulic (now spelled correclty!) fluid
In-Reply-To: <20110323134729.9IHTN.978926.root@mp12>
Message-ID: <20110323151626.89RC0.979132.root@mp12>

Ok, so even if the fluid is very dirty, it will still allow full movement if the system is adjusted correctly? 

Thanks all!

Please refer to my original signature, resurrected for personal explanation purposes:

Tim
Still clueless but always learning


---- Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote: 

=============
Is pitch black fluid alone in the clutch system enough to cause slippage?

Thanks

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Wed Mar 23 12:21:12 2011
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 12:21:12 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] clutch hydrolic fluid
In-Reply-To: <20110323134729.9IHTN.978926.root@mp12>
References: <20110323134729.9IHTN.978926.root@mp12>
Message-ID: <004b01cbe98f$79ff4a00$6dfdde00$@net>

Not directly, but it's an indication that the seals or the interior of the
flexible line are breaking down.

Gordon Glasgow


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 10:47 AM
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] clutch hydrolic fluid

Is pitch black fluid alone in the clutch system enough to cause slippage?

Thanks

Tim
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From wilhouse at charter.net  Wed Mar 23 12:24:31 2011
From: wilhouse at charter.net (Ken & Tammy Williams)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:24:31 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] MidOhio Vintage GP
References: <006001cbe969$5bb5f380$1321da80$@net>
Message-ID: <4E74D9B3B6E94AD1821B9BE0CD8342F9@wilhouse>

We had a great time there last year.  The Rose Heart is very nice, and the 
owners were super.
Paul was a very gracious host for the party and the impromtu mechanic/tech 
session.  Not naming names, Steve.....
It was my first chance to see Mid Ohio.  It is a wonderful place to watch 
the races.  I just wish the track touring was more than a parade lap.
Ken 

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Wed Mar 23 12:37:47 2011
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:37:47 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] clutch hydrolic fluid
In-Reply-To: <4D8A4253.8020203@hornesystemstx.com>
References: <20110323134729.9IHTN.978926.root@mp12>
	<4D8A4253.8020203@hornesystemstx.com>
Message-ID: <000c01cbe991$ca903810$5fb0a830$@net>

  What if the fluid, or sludge as tim calls it, is so thick it doesn't
easily flow back out of the slave when the pedal is realeased?  That would
cause the clutch to slip.

Paul
Ohio

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pat Horne
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 2:56 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] clutch hydrolic fluid

Tim,

Nope, the clutch fluid doesn't get into the clutch itself. Any slippage 
will normally be because the clutch is worn out, or much less often, the 
clutch master cylinder pedal rod is not allowing the vent hole in the 
master cylinder to open.

Peace,
Pat


Thusly spake Tim, On 3/23/2011 12:47 PM:
> Is pitch black fluid alone in the clutch system enough to cause slippage?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tim
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From tputland at charter.net  Wed Mar 23 12:42:28 2011
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:42:28 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] clutch hydraulic (now spelled correctly!) fluid
In-Reply-To: <20110323151626.89RC0.979132.root@mp12>
Message-ID: <20110323154228.H5WHG.979235.root@mp12>

Just you all know...I DO realize that the clutch fluid doesn't actually end up on the clutch disc....lol. Unless of course, there is a leak somewhere. Lord forbid!! 

Here's hoping a new hose and fluid flush will solve the 2000's clutch so I can drive it while working on the 1600 (which was the original plan anyway). I have the parts necessary to replace the entire clutch system, (except the master) but hope to not have to do the whole job. 

As much as I would love to have an engine pulling party/BBQ, I would rather just drive the thing!!!

Tim

---- Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote: 

=============
Ok, so even if the fluid is very dirty, it will still allow full movement if the system is adjusted correctly? 

Thanks all!

Please refer to my original signature, resurrected for personal explanation purposes:

Tim
Still clueless but always learning


---- Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote: 

=============
Is pitch black fluid alone in the clutch system enough to cause slippage?

Thanks

From sewebberlaw at gmail.com  Wed Mar 23 13:21:43 2011
From: sewebberlaw at gmail.com (Stephen E. Webber)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 13:21:43 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] clutch hydrolic fluid
References: <20110323134729.9IHTN.978926.root@mp12>
	<4D8A4253.8020203@hornesystemstx.com>
Message-ID: <D612FF9139A1423FAC4B43C5A580F524@STEVE>

To be more exact:  The clutch slave cylinder on Datsun roadsters sits 
outside the bell housing, several  inches away from and below the clutch. 
The slave cylinder pushes on one end of a lever, the other end pushes on the 
throw-out bearing that releases the pressure plate holding the clutch 
against the face of the flywheel. To get clutch fluid on the clutch one 
would have to remove the rubber vent cover on the transmission bell housing 
and squirt fluid past the pressure plate with the hope of hitting the clutch 
beyond.  In other words, unless you are nuts and a lucky shot, no clutch 
fluid will get close to the clutch plate itself on a Datsun Roadster.

But black fluid?  It better be changed.  It is easy to do.  clutch fluid is 
the same as brake fluid, and the same method is used to change the fluid.

Stephen Webber
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pat Horne" <pat at hornesystemstx.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] clutch hydrolic fluid


> Tim,
>
> Nope, the clutch fluid doesn't get into the clutch itself. Any slippage 
> will normally be because the clutch is worn out, or much less often, the 
> clutch master cylinder pedal rod is not allowing the vent hole in the 
> master cylinder to open.
>
> Peace,
> Pat
>
>
> Thusly spake Tim, On 3/23/2011 12:47 PM:
>> Is pitch black fluid alone in the clutch system enough to cause slippage?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Tim
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From wrenchorhammer at live.com  Wed Mar 23 14:03:28 2011
From: wrenchorhammer at live.com (Jim In Virginia)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:03:28 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] simple measure to set late styile floats on 2000
 SU's
In-Reply-To: <003f01cbe980$30734ee0$9159eca0$@net>
References: <20110323.092845.4273.1@webmail01.dca.untd.com>,
	<003f01cbe980$30734ee0$9159eca0$@net>
Message-ID: <BLU159-w5028B65A21678D0137E46AA5B70@phx.gbl>

What is just as important, I think, is having both carbs set the same.  The
way I did this was pound some nails into a two by four
on an ink line so they were exactly level, and spaced to hang the carbs on
them.  Then I chucked the 2X4 into a vice and put the level on it so it was
level.  Then, I hung the carbs on the nails, so they were hanging at the same
exact level.

Then, you can put clear plastic fuel line to the carbs and carfully add gas
until the float shuts off flow,  then hold up the lines and see if the level
is the same.

You can also watch the level to see if it goes down and how fast to see how
the needle and seat is working

Just my two cents for a little fine tuning on this subject.

Jim
Chesapeake Va
Currently Roadsterless (sigh)

> From: ppeters914 at comcast.net
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 10:31:47 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] simple measure to set late styile floats on 2000
SU's
>
> The 311s.org FAQ says 1/8-inch drill bit, but there's some further
> discussion:
>
> http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2561&hilit=float+level+drill
>
> ...and the two posts in this thread:
>
>
http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9866&p=74862&hilit=float+leve
> l+drill#p74862
>
>
>
> Pete
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> shas1983 at netzero.net
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 9:29 AM
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] simple measure to set late styile floats on 2000 SU's
>
> I am certain I have seen someone referring to using a specific drill bit
> size
> to accurately set the float levels on 2000 SU's. My car has the newer style
> plastic floats with the attached arm. If anyone knows this or a specific
> trick
> it would be great. Trying to subjectively determine when the arm contacts
> the
> pin is not very exact. Thanks Jon
> ____________________________________________________________

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Mar 23 16:25:54 2011
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:25:54 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] simple measure to set late style floats on 2000 SU's
In-Reply-To: <20110323.145015.768.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>
References: <20110323.145015.768.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <007d01cbe9b1$a85e59f0$f91b0dd0$@net>

Jon replied just to me instead of the list....
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 2:50 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] simple measure to set late style floats on 2000
SU's

I did the 1/8" measure, let the bowls fill, and pulled the tops off. The
level is well below the 23mm mark I made on the bowls, so I am going to try
to tweak it a bit so that it does not run over. at this level, with the
choke pulled you can barely see gas down inside the nozzle orifice. If I
understand everyone's thoughts, I think I should easily see the gas with the
choke pulled. Someone asked if they should see the puddle of fuel without
pulling the choke. It seems to me the carbs would continually overflow if
the fuel level is this high.   
 
My car seems to get very lean at high speeds (above 80). If the float levels
are significantly low I am wondering if they would contribute to this?
 
Thanks
 
Jon
 
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] simple measure to set late styile floats on 2000
SU's
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 10:31:47 -0700

The 311s.org FAQ says 1/8-inch drill bit, but there's some further
discussion:

http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2561&hilit=float+level+drill

...and the two posts in this thread:

http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9866&p=74862&hilit=float+leve
l+drill#p74862


Pete


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
shas1983 at netzero.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 9:29 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] simple measure to set late styile floats on 2000 SU's

I am certain I have seen someone referring to using a specific drill bit
size to accurately set the float levels on 2000 SU's. My car has the newer
style plastic floats with the attached arm.

If anyone knows this or a specific trick it would be great. Trying to
subjectively determine when the arm contacts the pin is not very exact.

Thanks Jon

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Mar 23 16:36:16 2011
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:36:16 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] How to move alternator from driver to passenger side
Message-ID: <007e01cbe9b3$1b091930$511b4b90$@net>

Forwarding to list for Jon.


-----Original Message-----
From: shas1983 at netzero.net [mailto:shas1983 at netzero.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 2:50 PM
To: ppeters914 at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] simple measure to set late styile floats on 2000
SU's

[snip]
 
My lower alternator bolt shared off into the motor mount in the original
drivers side position. If I want to switch to the passenger side can someone
tell me how they secure the top and bottom mounting of the alternator.
Rerouting the wiring seems easy enough.
 
Thanks
 
Jon

From jake7140 at yahoo.com  Wed Mar 23 21:37:54 2011
From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 21:37:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] MidOhio Vintage GP
In-Reply-To: <mailman.750.1300922710.3241.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.750.1300922710.3241.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <934270.45685.qm@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I second the fact that it was a wonderful time, even though I spent 90% under 
the car. At least I could do it in great surroundings rather than at the track. 
 Plus I had a built in peanut gallery and all the free advice I could handle.  I 
will remember it forever.  Eternally grateful to Paul, not only for that night 
but for the whole weekend.  I did get out from under the car a little and see 
some beautiful roadsters/Silvia and had some great food and beverage and 
talkin'.

Wish I could have gotten more laps in too.  2 trips so far to MO, two mech 
nightmares (first was with a 1st gen RX-7, brake issues).  Guess I'm not the 
best mechanic.  I should stick to driving.  OK I'm not that great a driver. 
 Guess I should stick to watching.  Yeah right.
 Steve

Steve's racing web site
     www.NoNameRacing.com
Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society
     www.elrss.com




________________________________
------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:24:31 -0500
From: "Ken & Tammy Williams" <wilhouse at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] MidOhio Vintage GP
To: "'datsun-roadsters'" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4E74D9B3B6E94AD1821B9BE0CD8342F9 at wilhouse>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
    reply-type=original

We had a great time there last year.  The Rose Heart is very nice, and the 
owners were super.
Paul was a very gracious host for the party and the impromtu mechanic/tech 
session.  Not naming names, Steve.....
It was my first chance to see Mid Ohio.  It is a wonderful place to watch 
the races.  I just wish the track touring was more than a parade lap.
Ken 

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu Mar 24 08:41:04 2011
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 08:41:04 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: How to move alternator from driver to passenger side
Message-ID: <00bc01cbea39$e31a2cd0$a94e8670$@net>

Forwarding to the list where it should have gone....

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Harvey [mailto:stebharvey at ameritech.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 1:57 AM
To: Pete Peters
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] How to move alternator from driver to passenger
side

Jon,

The first thing you need is a attachment bracket that mounts to the
passenger side of the engine. I believe this bracket held smog components.
The lower hole on the alternator (GM-1 wire) attaches to this bracket. You
then need an extension arm which attaches to the front of the head and the
top monting hole on the alternator. The extension arm is slotted so you can
adjust the belt tension. Unless someone else offers pictures of the setup I
can take pics and forward them to you.

Steve
Milwaukee

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Pete Peters
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 4:36 PM
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: [Roadsters] How to move alternator from driver to passenger
side


Forwarding to list for Jon.


-----Original Message-----
From: shas1983 at netzero.net [mailto:shas1983 at netzero.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 2:50 PM
To: ppeters914 at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] simple measure to set late styile floats on 2000
SU's

[snip]

My lower alternator bolt shared off into the motor mount in the original
drivers side position. If I want to switch to the passenger side can someone
tell me how they secure the top and bottom mounting of the alternator.
Rerouting the wiring seems easy enough.

Thanks

Jon
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu Mar 24 08:46:39 2011
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 08:46:39 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Double-check the To: field before hitting Send
Message-ID: <00bd01cbea3a$aaad54c0$0007fe40$@net>

Hey, folks. Just a reminder to check the "To:" field on your replies
-BEFORE- you hit the SEND button to ensure you're replying to the list
and/or the individual desired. By default, when you hit Reply to Roadster
Mailing List email, it goes -ONLY- the individual posting the
question/reply, and -NOT- the list. You need to choose REPLY ALL although
it's better to change the "To:" field to the list address.

I forwarded Jon's questions/replies because he sent them to me instead of
the list, and now folks are emailing me instead of the list and/or Jon.

 

Not a big deal, but the info is -NOT- going directly to the intended
recipient.

 

Cheers.

 

Pete

From pat at hornesystemstx.com  Thu Mar 24 10:59:36 2011
From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:59:36 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: How to move alternator from driver to passenger
 side
In-Reply-To: <00bc01cbea39$e31a2cd0$a94e8670$@net>
References: <00bc01cbea39$e31a2cd0$a94e8670$@net>
Message-ID: <4D8B8688.8040901@hornesystemstx.com>

I believe that there is also another piece needed for the bottom bolt, 
the triangular plate that mounts to the timing chain cover and the front 
of the lower pivot bolt on the alternator. Is this supposed to be there, 
or am I thinking about a different engine?

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Pete Peters, On 3/24/2011 10:41 AM:
> Forwarding to the list where it should have gone....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Harvey [mailto:stebharvey at ameritech.net]
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 1:57 AM
> To: Pete Peters
> Subject: RE: [Roadsters] How to move alternator from driver to passenger
> side
>
> Jon,
>
> The first thing you need is a attachment bracket that mounts to the
> passenger side of the engine. I believe this bracket held smog components.
> The lower hole on the alternator (GM-1 wire) attaches to this bracket. You
> then need an extension arm which attaches to the front of the head and the
> top monting hole on the alternator. The extension arm is slotted so you can
> adjust the belt tension. Unless someone else offers pictures of the setup I
> can take pics and forward them to you.
>
> Steve
> Milwaukee
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Pete Peters
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 4:36 PM
> To: Datsun Roadster List
> Subject: [Roadsters] How to move alternator from driver to passenger
> side
>
>
> Forwarding to list for Jon.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shas1983 at netzero.net [mailto:shas1983 at netzero.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 2:50 PM
> To: ppeters914 at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] simple measure to set late styile floats on 2000
> SU's
>
> [snip]
>
> My lower alternator bolt shared off into the motor mount in the original
> drivers side position. If I want to switch to the passenger side can someone
> tell me how they secure the top and bottom mounting of the alternator.
> Rerouting the wiring seems easy enough.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jon
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From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Thu Mar 24 11:46:05 2011
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:46:05 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: How to move alternator from driver to passenger
 side
In-Reply-To: <00bc01cbea39$e31a2cd0$a94e8670$@net>
References: <00bc01cbea39$e31a2cd0$a94e8670$@net>
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Here is a pic of a bracket I made from 1/8" x 1 1/2" wide steel flat stock.
The top bolt, kind of a pinkish color in the pic, is a Grade 8 bolt.

Good Luck,

Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed:

 



 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:41 AM
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: How to move alternator from driver to passenger
side

 

Forwarding to the list where it should have gone....

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Steve Harvey [mailto:stebharvey at ameritech.net]

Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 1:57 AM

To: Pete Peters

Subject: RE: [Roadsters] How to move alternator from driver to passenger

side

 

Jon,

 

The first thing you need is a attachment bracket that mounts to the

passenger side of the engine. I believe this bracket held smog components.

The lower hole on the alternator (GM-1 wire) attaches to this bracket. You

then need an extension arm which attaches to the front of the head and the

top monting hole on the alternator. The extension arm is slotted so you can

adjust the belt tension. Unless someone else offers pictures of the setup I

can take pics and forward them to you.

 

Steve

Milwaukee

 

-----Original Message-----

From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net

[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Pete Peters

Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 4:36 PM

To: Datsun Roadster List

Subject: [Roadsters] How to move alternator from driver to passenger

side

 

 

Forwarding to list for Jon.

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: shas1983 at netzero.net [mailto:shas1983 at netzero.net]

Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 2:50 PM

To: ppeters914 at comcast.net

Subject: Re: [Roadsters] simple measure to set late styile floats on 2000

SU's

 

[snip]

 

My lower alternator bolt shared off into the motor mount in the original

drivers side position. If I want to switch to the passenger side can someone

tell me how they secure the top and bottom mounting of the alternator.

Rerouting the wiring seems easy enough.

 

Thanks

 

Jon

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From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Thu Mar 24 11:49:02 2011
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:49:02 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: How to move alternator from driver to passenger
 side
In-Reply-To: <00bc01cbea39$e31a2cd0$a94e8670$@net>
References: <00bc01cbea39$e31a2cd0$a94e8670$@net>
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Here is a link to pics of my GM alternator install and the bracket I made
from 1/8" x 1 1/2" wide steel flat stock. The top bolt, kind of a pinkish
color in the pic, is a Grade 8 bolt.

http://rides.webshots.com/album/559470688UzQfbs

Good Luck,

Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed:


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:41 AM
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: How to move alternator from driver to passenger
side

Forwarding to the list where it should have gone....

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Harvey [mailto:stebharvey at ameritech.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 1:57 AM
To: Pete Peters
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] How to move alternator from driver to passenger
side

Jon,

The first thing you need is a attachment bracket that mounts to the
passenger side of the engine. I believe this bracket held smog components.
The lower hole on the alternator (GM-1 wire) attaches to this bracket. You
then need an extension arm which attaches to the front of the head and the
top monting hole on the alternator. The extension arm is slotted so you can
adjust the belt tension. Unless someone else offers pictures of the setup I
can take pics and forward them to you.

Steve
Milwaukee

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Pete Peters
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 4:36 PM
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: [Roadsters] How to move alternator from driver to passenger
side


Forwarding to list for Jon.


-----Original Message-----
From: shas1983 at netzero.net [mailto:shas1983 at netzero.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 2:50 PM
To: ppeters914 at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] simple measure to set late styile floats on 2000
SU's

[snip]

My lower alternator bolt shared off into the motor mount in the original
drivers side position. If I want to switch to the passenger side can someone
tell me how they secure the top and bottom mounting of the alternator.
Rerouting the wiring seems easy enough.

Thanks

Jon
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From keithddowning at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 24 14:51:47 2011
From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 14:51:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] For you 510 fans.  BAT Listing
Message-ID: <308110.63792.qm@web83302.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Just passing along the info.

http://bringatrailer.com/2011/03/23/bat-exclusive-bre-style-1972-datsun-510-hot-rod/

From jeffzster at yahoo.com  Fri Mar 25 21:21:16 2011
From: jeffzster at yahoo.com (Jeff Torres)
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:21:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Solex air filter and horn options..where to buy?
Message-ID: <483149.81663.qm@web110402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Ok..So I got my dream set of NOS Solex carbs....they are going on my 1600
stroker.....They have an after market air filter set-up, but I am looking for
other options..does K&N have filters that will fit...What size horns are
available and where do I buy...Some option suggestions would be appreciated!
 
Thanks!

From jeffzster at yahoo.com  Fri Mar 25 22:00:16 2011
From: jeffzster at yahoo.com (Jeff Torres)
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:00:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Dave Brisco...East Coast Roadsters..you till around???
Message-ID: <957308.21358.qm@web110410.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Looking for Dave B. You out there anywhere?
 
Jeff

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Sun Mar 20 18:37:27 2011
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 18:37:27 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 69 roadsters on craigslist in Dallas
In-Reply-To: <000001cbe735$bf0b8fc0$3d22af40$@net>
References: <BEAA69920EE74388BCFDDD0178DBEC77@ranteer.local>,
	<000001cbe735$bf0b8fc0$3d22af40$@net>
Message-ID: <SNT106-W119F311D859B3028258EA7DFB50@phx.gbl>

not to insult the group - but when did these become rare classics??  -  not
even 67 1/2 - make good parts cars - body parts are becoming scarcer - but
2k??

Peter Harrison - Eliza [TOAD SAN]
818 448 3181




> From: 9laser3 at bright.net
> To: dave at ranteer.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 15:33:51 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 69 roadsters on craigslist in Dallas
>
>   Why do folks post photos without taking a hose to the car first?  Just
> looking at the photos, the car looks more like a $500 parts car than a
> restorable project.  And why bother to mention a 1600 'race' car and not
> include at least one photo of it?
>
> MHO,
> Paul
> Ohio
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave
> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 11:05 AM
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] 69 roadsters on craigslist in Dallas
>
> o;?these are not my cars.  nfi, no nothing
>
> http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/2267896458.html
>
> she sent me some more pictures.  they look awful
>
> the 1600 she references is a race car with the usual kind of race car mods
>
> apparently the cars have been sitting under trees.  the 2000 engine has no
> manifold, carbs, etc.  the 1600 engine compartment looks like the winter
> storage for a pack of squirrels.  she said to me bthe engines do not turn
> over but they are restorable.b  I think thatbs optimistic.
>
> I can forward you the pictures she sent me, and if someone is interested I
> could probably go look.
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Thu Mar 24 12:41:54 2011
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:41:54 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] clutch hydraulic (now spelled correctly!) fluid
In-Reply-To: <20110323154228.H5WHG.979235.root@mp12>
References: <20110323151626.89RC0.979132.root@mp12>,
	<20110323154228.H5WHG.979235.root@mp12>
Message-ID: <SNT106-W27699220314053ABAB9C4ADFB60@phx.gbl>

If it's that dirty - perhaps it is the front seal from the transmission ??

Peter Harrison - Eliza [TOAD SAN]
818 448 3181




> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:42:28 -0400
> From: tputland at charter.net
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] clutch hydraulic (now spelled correctly!) fluid
>
> Just you all know...I DO realize that the clutch fluid doesn't actually end
up on the clutch disc....lol. Unless of course, there is a leak somewhere.
Lord forbid!!
>
> Here's hoping a new hose and fluid flush will solve the 2000's clutch so I
can drive it while working on the 1600 (which was the original plan anyway). I
have the parts necessary to replace the entire clutch system, (except the
master) but hope to not have to do the whole job.
>
> As much as I would love to have an engine pulling party/BBQ, I would rather
just drive the thing!!!
>
> Tim
>
> ---- Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:
>
> =============
> Ok, so even if the fluid is very dirty, it will still allow full movement if
the system is adjusted correctly?
>
> Thanks all!
>
> Please refer to my original signature, resurrected for personal explanation
purposes:
>
> Tim
> Still clueless but always learning
>
>
> ---- Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:
>
> =============
> Is pitch black fluid alone in the clutch system enough to cause slippage?
>
> Thanks
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Sat Mar 26 08:39:26 2011
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 08:39:26 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] clutch hydraulic (now spelled correctly!) fluid
In-Reply-To: <SNT106-W27699220314053ABAB9C4ADFB60@phx.gbl>
References: <20110323151626.89RC0.979132.root@mp12>,
	<20110323154228.H5WHG.979235.root@mp12>
	<SNT106-W27699220314053ABAB9C4ADFB60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <001801cbebcb$fde828d0$f9b87a70$@net>

I don't think there's any way that could get into the hydraulic fluid in the
clutch line. Or am I misunderstanding the question?

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of peter harrison
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 12:42 PM
To: datsun
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] clutch hydraulic (now spelled correctly!) fluid

If it's that dirty - perhaps it is the front seal from the transmission ??

Peter Harrison - Eliza [TOAD SAN]
818 448 3181




> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:42:28 -0400
> From: tputland at charter.net
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] clutch hydraulic (now spelled correctly!) fluid
>
> Just you all know...I DO realize that the clutch fluid doesn't actually
end
up on the clutch disc....lol. Unless of course, there is a leak somewhere.
Lord forbid!!
>
> Here's hoping a new hose and fluid flush will solve the 2000's clutch so I
can drive it while working on the 1600 (which was the original plan anyway).
I
have the parts necessary to replace the entire clutch system, (except the
master) but hope to not have to do the whole job.
>
> As much as I would love to have an engine pulling party/BBQ, I would
rather
just drive the thing!!!
>
> Tim
>
> ---- Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:
>
> =============
> Ok, so even if the fluid is very dirty, it will still allow full movement
if
the system is adjusted correctly?
>
> Thanks all!
>
> Please refer to my original signature, resurrected for personal
explanation
purposes:
>
> Tim
> Still clueless but always learning
>
>
> ---- Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:
>
> =============
> Is pitch black fluid alone in the clutch system enough to cause slippage?
>
> Thanks
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From dave at ranteer.com  Sat Mar 26 11:00:00 2011
From: dave at ranteer.com (Dave)
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 13:00:00 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] drivers side heater control panel part
In-Reply-To: <001801cbebcb$fde828d0$f9b87a70$@net>
References: <20110323151626.89RC0.979132.root@mp12>,
	<20110323154228.H5WHG.979235.root@mp12><SNT106-W27699220314053ABAB9C4ADFB60@phx.gbl>
	<001801cbebcb$fde828d0$f9b87a70$@net>
Message-ID: <54D7011884AE492D92710E3C9600E967@ranteer.local>

o;?as I put the early 67 datsun roadster together (which I received in kit
form), I find that the passenger side heater control panel triangular piece is
welded onto the front piece.  no big deal.  but Ibm missing the drivers
side.  before I fab one, does anyone have a spare theybd be willing to sell?
a little rust is fine; I can clean it up and it gets covered with vinyl
anyway

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Sat Mar 26 16:55:35 2011
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 16:55:35 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] drivers side heater control panel part
In-Reply-To: <54D7011884AE492D92710E3C9600E967@ranteer.local>
References: <20110323151626.89RC0.979132.root@mp12>,
	<20110323154228.H5WHG.979235.root@mp12><SNT106-W27699220314053ABAB9C4ADFB60@phx.gbl>
	<001801cbebcb$fde828d0$f9b87a70$@net>
	<54D7011884AE492D92710E3C9600E967@ranteer.local>
Message-ID: <001601cbec11$4d7bcfb0$e8736f10$@net>

I'm pretty sure the right-side piece was always solidly attached to the
center console. Only the left side was removable.

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:00 AM
To: 'datsun'
Subject: [Roadsters] drivers side heater control panel part

o;?as I put the early 67 datsun roadster together (which I received in kit
form), I find that the passenger side heater control panel triangular piece
is
welded onto the front piece.  no big deal.  but Ibm missing the drivers
side.  before I fab one, does anyone have a spare theybd be willing to
sell?
a little rust is fine; I can clean it up and it gets covered with vinyl
anyway
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From matthewdrakenc at hotmail.com  Sun Mar 27 12:59:23 2011
From: matthewdrakenc at hotmail.com (Matthew Drake )
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 19:59:23 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Where is the best place to pick up all exterior lights
 for a'69 2000 ~ no money! ; (
Message-ID: <SNT121-DS104A4A4B8BE8B1ED69CC8CDBB0@phx.gbl>

My daughter & I are nearing our frame off and are at the end of our budget....
God speed, Rev. Matthew E Drake Landmark UPC 208 Landmark Place Lexington, NC
27292 Phone ~ 812-599-0815 Fax ~ 336-300-8086 Email ~
MatthewDrakeNC at Hotmail.com God Speed to the Warriors ~ both Military &
Spiritual of our Past, Present & Future for what you have done in the fight
for Freedom.


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Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 16:55:35 -0700
From: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] drivers side heater control panel part
To: "'Dave'" <dave at ranteer.com>, "'datsun'"
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I'm pretty sure the right-side piece was always solidly attached to the
center console. Only the left side was removable.

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:00 AM
To: 'datsun'
Subject: [Roadsters] drivers side heater control panel part

o;?as I put the early 67 datsun roadster together (which I received in kit
form), I find that the passenger side heater control panel triangular piece
is
welded onto the front piece.  no big deal.  but Ibm missing the drivers
side.  before I fab one, does anyone have a spare theybd be willing to
sell?
a little rust is fine; I can clean it up and it gets covered with vinyl
anyway
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From dboerst at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 27 16:38:38 2011
From: dboerst at yahoo.com (David Boerst)
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 16:38:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Engine overhaul kits
Message-ID: <81199.50337.qm@web58603.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

I want to do a complete over haul on my wifes' 1966 "Orange Burst" (Google Orange Burst). Does anyone know where to buy a complete kit? Any high performance parts? I have a set of headers.

From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Sun Mar 27 18:51:05 2011
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 20:51:05 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Engine overhaul kits
In-Reply-To: <81199.50337.qm@web58603.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <81199.50337.qm@web58603.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim-rga9KQYfLeEQHbi5nb8HM5dFC2QvNGXHON8b@mail.gmail.com>

 David Boerst -

I want to do a complete over haul on my wifes' 1966 "Orange Burst"
(Google Orange Burst). Does anyone know where to buy a complete kit?
Any high performance parts? I have a set of headers.

+++++++++++++++++++

David, you didn't say if the car's a 1600 or 2K, but regardless I'd
suggest you give serious consideration to an SR20 swap. A complete
rebuild of either the R-16 or U-20 is not going to be cheap and when
you're finished you have new 45 year old technology. I'd contact Les
at Classic Datsun and Michael Spreadbury at Spriso to get an idea of
the relative costs.

If you want to stay stock, that's fine but it'd gonna cost. If you do
an SR swap you have more modern technology (like EFI vs carbs), more
power and better economy, plus you can sell you OEM power train and
defray a large portion of the cost of the swap.

FWIW,
Ron
I'd be doing that if I was going to keep my '70 2000.

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Mon Mar 28 09:46:16 2011
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:46:16 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Engine overhaul kits
In-Reply-To: <81199.50337.qm@web58603.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <81199.50337.qm@web58603.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002701cbed67$a841f3a0$f8c5dae0$@net>

I'm guessing R16 1600 since it's a 1966, but you should confirm. The only
kits I've seen are for the U20:

<http://www.datsunparts.com/Engine-Kits-and-Packages>

Also, define what you mean by "complete overhaul" and "high performance
parts." 

Why do you want/think you need to do this? What's your end goal?


Pete

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[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Boerst
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 4:39 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Engine overhaul kits

I want to do a complete over haul on my wifes' 1966 "Orange Burst" (Google
Orange Burst). Does anyone know where to buy a complete kit? Any high
performance parts? I have a set of headers.
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From sandhoff at csus.edu  Mon Mar 28 10:48:19 2011
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 10:48:19 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] '69 2000 FS in Iowa
Message-ID: <4D906773.6387.6D8D0B@localhost>

Not mine (I can only wish!). I know _nothing_ about this car. One
intriguing comment "Retiring after 30 years of restoring Datsuns..."
Anyone we know? Anyone on the list?

<http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2011/03/17/hemmings-find-of-the-day-
1969-datsun-2000/?refer=news>
<http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/carsforsale/datsun/2000/1208171.html>

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From tputland at charter.net  Mon Mar 28 11:26:36 2011
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:26:36 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] '69 2000 FS in Iowa
In-Reply-To: <4D906773.6387.6D8D0B@localhost>
Message-ID: <20110328142636.XE6IT.14301737.root@mp18>

Is this the same car being sold by someone in Montana? I could have sworn someone on this list posted (found) a link to the same car for sale by a "30 Datsun restorer" who was in Montana....

Tim

---- John F Sandhoff <sandhoff at csus.edu> wrote: 

=============
Not mine (I can only wish!). I know _nothing_ about this car. One
intriguing comment "Retiring after 30 years of restoring Datsuns..."
Anyone we know? Anyone on the list?

<http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2011/03/17/hemmings-find-of-the-day-
1969-datsun-2000/?refer=news>
<http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/carsforsale/datsun/2000/1208171.html>

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA
________________________________________

From escarcega at cox.net  Mon Mar 28 12:23:57 2011
From: escarcega at cox.net (Marty Escarcega)
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 12:23:57 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 Cylinder Head height
Message-ID: <20110328152357.F8V0Y.259782.imail@fed1rmwml40>

Does anyone know the factory thickness of the Cylinder head? Ours reads about 3.160". Reason I ask is that we had noise in our engine (1967 1600) that sounded like valves. We pulled the head and it was apparent someone removed the head before. Pistons have been hitting the bottom of the head, nice shiny spots on the pistons and the head. Also pistons in Cylinders #1&4 have damage indentations from the valves hitting them at one time (don't look fresh)

Do the factory domed pistons have reliefs for valves or no?

I am contemplating milling the area where the pistons are hitting the combustion chambers to gain the clearance back.
I surmise that perhaps someone did not adjust the valves correctly and damaged them when pistons hit them. They were bent, head was removed for a valve job and someone milled the head too much. (or a poor man's performance upgrade)

The other option I'm told is doubling the head gasket or I was told there was a copper shim made at one time for this problem.
Neither strike me too well. The downside to milling is I don't know how much meat is in that area of the head. I think removing .050" should be fine.

Any thoughts comments appreciated.

Marty

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Mon Mar 28 12:46:57 2011
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 12:46:57 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 Cylinder Head height
In-Reply-To: <20110328152357.F8V0Y.259782.imail@fed1rmwml40>
References: <20110328152357.F8V0Y.259782.imail@fed1rmwml40>
Message-ID: <003701cbed80$e5fc5ff0$b1f51fd0$@net>

I asked the same question almost exactly a year ago. Here's link to the
thread in the archives:

<http://www.team.net/mharc/archives/html/datsun-roadsters/2010-04/msg00060.h
tml>


Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Marty
Escarcega
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 12:24 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 Cylinder Head height

Does anyone know the factory thickness of the Cylinder head? Ours reads
about 3.160". Reason I ask is that we had noise in our engine (1967 1600)
that sounded like valves. We pulled the head and it was apparent someone
removed the head before. Pistons have been hitting the bottom of the head,
nice shiny spots on the pistons and the head. Also pistons in Cylinders #1&4
have damage indentations from the valves hitting them at one time (don't
look fresh)

Do the factory domed pistons have reliefs for valves or no?

I am contemplating milling the area where the pistons are hitting the
combustion chambers to gain the clearance back.
I surmise that perhaps someone did not adjust the valves correctly and
damaged them when pistons hit them. They were bent, head was removed for a
valve job and someone milled the head too much. (or a poor man's performance
upgrade)

The other option I'm told is doubling the head gasket or I was told there
was a copper shim made at one time for this problem.
Neither strike me too well. The downside to milling is I don't know how much
meat is in that area of the head. I think removing .050" should be fine.

Any thoughts comments appreciated.

Marty
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From jsk977 at optonline.net  Mon Mar 28 13:06:14 2011
From: jsk977 at optonline.net (Jerry Krakauer)
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:06:14 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 Cylinder Head height
In-Reply-To: <20110328152357.F8V0Y.259782.imail@fed1rmwml40>
References: <20110328152357.F8V0Y.259782.imail@fed1rmwml40>
Message-ID: <002d01cbed83$974b8a40$c5e29ec0$@net>

I can answer the question on the pistons. On one of my BSR U20 rebuilds,
they used +.040 R16 pistons to raise the compression and needed to fly cut
reliefs for the valves. The stock pistons did not have any reliefs. This was
how they built their own engines too. BTW, in the late 60's the pistons were
$5 each, still have the bill!


Jerry Krakauer

SRL311 00099


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Marty
Escarcega
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 3:24 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 Cylinder Head height

Does anyone know the factory thickness of the Cylinder head? Ours reads
about 3.160". Reason I ask is that we had noise in our engine (1967 1600)
that sounded like valves. We pulled the head and it was apparent someone
removed the head before. Pistons have been hitting the bottom of the head,
nice shiny spots on the pistons and the head. Also pistons in Cylinders #1&4
have damage indentations from the valves hitting them at one time (don't
look fresh)

Do the factory domed pistons have reliefs for valves or no?

I am contemplating milling the area where the pistons are hitting the
combustion chambers to gain the clearance back.
I surmise that perhaps someone did not adjust the valves correctly and
damaged them when pistons hit them. They were bent, head was removed for a
valve job and someone milled the head too much. (or a poor man's performance
upgrade)

The other option I'm told is doubling the head gasket or I was told there
was a copper shim made at one time for this problem.
Neither strike me too well. The downside to milling is I don't know how much
meat is in that area of the head. I think removing .050" should be fine.

Any thoughts comments appreciated.

Marty

From noji-1 at pacbell.net  Mon Mar 28 14:33:40 2011
From: noji-1 at pacbell.net (dana nojima)
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:33:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] another on Hemmings for $18K
Message-ID: <683021.49493.qm@web83404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/datsun/fairlady/1066805.html
Interesting - Calls it a 67 - Late dash etc so, should be a 68??  No side
markers and 4 sets of reflector on the rear.    


noticed that there is no
fan shroud. Other than preserving fingers how needed is 
that part?  I have
mine hanging on the wall.  The weather in the San Francisco 
area is normally
not too hot so I haven't worried too much. 


Dana
 
Dana Nojima
noji-1 at pacbell.net
510.219.6474

From RWM at RWMann.com  Mon Mar 28 14:53:18 2011
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 17:53:18 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] another on Hemmings for $18K
In-Reply-To: <683021.49493.qm@web83404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <683021.49493.qm@web83404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4D91034E.2070708@RWMann.com>


From RWM at RWMann.com  Mon Mar 28 14:58:47 2011
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 17:58:47 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] another on Hemmings for $18K
In-Reply-To: <683021.49493.qm@web83404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <683021.49493.qm@web83404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4D910497.7010904@RWMann.com>

Rear fender cutout/lines look odd, too.



On 3/28/2011 5:33 PM, dana nojima wrote:
> http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/datsun/fairlady/1066805.html
> Interesting - Calls it a 67 - Late dash etc so, should be a 68??  No side
> markers and 4 sets of reflector on the rear.
>
>
> noticed that there is no
> fan shroud. Other than preserving fingers how needed is
> that part?  I have
> mine hanging on the wall.  The weather in the San Francisco
> area is normally
> not too hot so I haven't worried too much.
>
>
> Dana
>
> Dana Nojima
> noji-1 at pacbell.net
> 510.219.6474
> ________________

From sandhoff at csus.edu  Mon Mar 28 17:04:58 2011
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 17:04:58 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] another on Hemmings for $18K
In-Reply-To: <683021.49493.qm@web83404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4D90BFBA.29319.1C66050@localhost>

> http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/datsun/fairlady/1066805.html

Hope this one doesn't belong to someone on the list... :-)

For $18K I would have hoped someone would have cleaned up
all the hacks in the engine bay. Car alarm where the washer bottle
belongs, fuel line loosely flapping, yes the fan shroud should be
put back (a 7 blade fan is in there, too), crankcase breather vent
is plugged, and what's with the wiring next to the carbs?

And the paint overspray on the hard lines and hood latch...

Is this one of those "name 20 things wrong with this picture" contests?

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From rabush2000 at hotmail.com  Mon Mar 28 18:27:12 2011
From: rabush2000 at hotmail.com (Richard Bush)
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 20:27:12 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Front Hood
In-Reply-To: <4D90BFBA.29319.1C66050@localhost>
References: <4D90BFBA.29319.1C66050@localhost>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP173030C0CA9EF6F2AD0F740D2BD0@phx.gbl>

I am having the hood and trunk of my car painted - they are bubbling. The
trunk top is fine but the hood - on the top front, where it flares, keeps
bubbling - The very same place that prompted the painting in the first place.

Any ideas?

Rick
R A Bush, 4806 Eck Lane, Austin Texas
512 574 8081

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 28, 2011, at 7:04 PM, "John F Sandhoff" <sandhoff at csus.edu> wrote:

>> http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/datsun/fairlady/1066805.html
>
> Hope this one doesn't belong to someone on the list... :-)
>
> For $18K I would have hoped someone would have cleaned up
> all the hacks in the engine bay. Car alarm where the washer bottle
> belongs, fuel line loosely flapping, yes the fan shroud should be
> put back (a 7 blade fan is in there, too), crankcase breather vent
> is plugged, and what's with the wiring next to the carbs?
>
> And the paint overspray on the hard lines and hood latch...
>
> Is this one of those "name 20 things wrong with this picture" contests?
>
> -- John
>     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA
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From dogermac at aol.com  Tue Mar 29 05:35:27 2011
From: dogermac at aol.com (Dogermac)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 08:35:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd:  another on Hemmings for $18K
In-Reply-To: <4D90BFBA.29319.1C66050@localhost>
References: <4D90BFBA.29319.1C66050@localhost>
Message-ID: <8CDBC24E92FA5E1-2034-4A003@webmail-d147.sysops.aol.com>

 Wow.  Can I ask why the disparaging assault on the Hemmings car?  Yes, we can
all see that it is not an "as new" restoration but is a very pretty daily
driver.  How upset would you be if it had an SR20 or later engine or after
market wheels or sound system.  Should we measure the intakes to insure it
hasn't been improved a bit?
     Let's lighten up a bit on those who don't see our hobby as a contest to
see who can best restore all the shortcomings our cars came with.  If you
choose to restore to "actual new" as one recent seller did and ask $35K - - -
WONDERFUL, now we have another real benchmark for those who need one.  For me,
I prefer my daily driver (every day) and plenty of non original parts.
Modified SU's and port polish and relieve, electronic ignition, hotter coil
and newer adjustable regulator, GM alternator, electric pusher fan up front
etc, etc.
     Seems our list is made up of all aspects of Datsun friends, and our cars
weren't all alike even when new,
Jim in Sarasota
'70 SRL








-----Original Message-----
From: John F Sandhoff <sandhoff at csus.edu>
To: datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Mar 28, 2011 8:05 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] another on Hemmings for $18K


> http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/datsun/fairlady/1066805.html



Hope this one doesn't belong to someone on the list... :-)



For $18K I would have hoped someone would have cleaned up

all the hacks in the engine bay. Car alarm where the washer bottle

belongs, fuel line loosely flapping, yes the fan shroud should be

put back (a 7 blade fan is in there, too), crankcase breather vent

is plugged, and what's with the wiring next to the carbs?



And the paint overspray on the hard lines and hood latch...



Is this one of those "name 20 things wrong with this picture" contests?



-- John

     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

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From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Tue Mar 29 08:19:39 2011
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 08:19:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd:  another on Hemmings for $18K
In-Reply-To: <8CDBC24E92FA5E1-2034-4A003@webmail-d147.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <344982.1581.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

For $18k you expect to see things done quite a bit more neatly, and correctly,
esp. in the engine compartment. It's not that it's modified, it's that what
has been done (that's visible) is a hack job.

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

--- On Tue, 3/29/11, Dogermac <dogermac at aol.com> wrote:

From: Dogermac <dogermac at aol.com>
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd:  another on Hemmings for $18K
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 5:35 AM

 Wow.  Can I ask why the disparaging assault on the Hemmings car?  Yes, we
can
all see that it is not an "as new" restoration but is a very pretty daily
driver.  How upset would you be if it had an SR20 or later engine or after
market wheels or sound system.  Should we measure the intakes to insure it
hasn't been improved a bit?
     Let's lighten up a bit on those who don't see our hobby as a contest to
see who can best restore all the shortcomings our cars came with.  If you
choose to restore to "actual new" as one recent seller did and ask $35K - - -
WONDERFUL, now we have another real benchmark for those who need one.  For
me,
I prefer my daily driver (every day) and plenty of non original parts.
Modified SU's and port polish and relieve, electronic ignition, hotter coil
and newer adjustable regulator, GM alternator, electric pusher fan up front
etc, etc.
     Seems our list is made up of all aspects of Datsun friends, and our cars
weren't all alike even when new,
Jim in Sarasota
'70 SRL








-----Original Message-----
From: John F Sandhoff <sandhoff at csus.edu>
To: datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Mar 28, 2011 8:05 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] another on Hemmings for $18K


> http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/datsun/fairlady/1066805.html



Hope this one doesn't belong to someone on the list... :-)



For $18K I would have hoped someone would have cleaned up

all the hacks in the engine bay. Car alarm where the washer bottle

belongs, fuel line loosely flapping, yes the fan shroud should be

put back (a 7 blade fan is in there, too), crankcase breather vent

is plugged, and what's with the wiring next to the carbs?



And the paint overspray on the hard lines and hood latch...



Is this one of those "name 20 things wrong with this picture" contests?



-- John

     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

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From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net  Tue Mar 29 09:09:55 2011
From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 09:09:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] wheels datsun
Message-ID: <468542.69159.qm@web81001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Saw on CL today, looks to fit our cars. Kinda beat up tough.

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/pts/2292907518.html

From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net  Tue Mar 29 09:12:57 2011
From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 09:12:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop
Message-ID: <633940.44465.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Saw on CL today, must be for low windshield.

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/pts/2292833036.html

From JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net  Tue Mar 29 10:42:59 2011
From: JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net (JohnnyRoadster)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 13:42:59 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop
References: <633940.44465.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7EA62E2D3A07424FA4FA88440A4A41EE@JohnLaptop>

Not to hijack a post or anything, BUT I have the same hardtop up in the 
garage.

It needs all new rubber/weather-stripping.  Especially along the bottom edge 
where it would rub against the paint.  Does anyone know where to get 
replacement weather-stripping?

John

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom PRATHER" <tomet9 at sbcglobal.net>
To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.ne roadster list" 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 12:12 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop


> Saw on CL today, must be for low windshield.
>
> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/pts/2292833036.html
> ________________________________________

From dave at ranteer.com  Tue Mar 29 12:27:46 2011
From: dave at ranteer.com (Dave)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:27:46 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] question about hood latch assembly
Message-ID: <E621383932B94123BA0AA15A27E908A5@ranteer.local>

o;?am I right in thinking this does not get painted?  should I clear coat it
to protect it from rust?  or keep it heavily lubed? should I paint it anyway?
Ibm not that concerned with originality.

and it seems like when you move the latch assembly, the bhookb moves into
the latch, then back out.  whatbs the best way to adjust this?  how should I
have it positioned when I attach the cable?

and yes, I know about the secondary cable.  I plan to do that

(early 67 roadster)

thanks!!!!!

From rksmith46 at hotmail.com  Tue Mar 29 12:33:48 2011
From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 15:33:48 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 Cylinder Head height
In-Reply-To: <20110328152357.F8V0Y.259782.imail@fed1rmwml40>
References: <20110328152357.F8V0Y.259782.imail@fed1rmwml40>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w609ECF33FC48A67B6B66F4BFBD0@phx.gbl>

hi marty, IF the problem is, that the head has been milled too much, i would
go the easy
route--- thicker head gasket. it is easier on the wallet, and labor, too.  i
know when
i ran into that problem, the way i found out(and had to remove the head), was,
that
the head gasket failed from high compression.  that might be a concern if you
just mill around the combustion chamber. the other thing to consider, is, did
the
valves hit the piston a few times and clearance themselves ? if so, and you
dont move
the head away from the pistons(thicker h.g.), will the valves hit again?
   btw, the r-16 head thickness is 3.248", according to rallye's info
catalogue. that
makes your head .088" thinner than stock.
    best of luck, bob smith, ohio

> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 12:23:57 -0700
> From: escarcega at cox.net
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 Cylinder Head height
>
> Does anyone know the factory thickness of the Cylinder head? Ours reads
about 3.160". Reason I ask is that we had noise in our engine (1967 1600) that
sounded like valves. We pulled the head and it was apparent someone removed
the head before. Pistons have been hitting the bottom of the head, nice shiny
spots on the pistons and the head. Also pistons in Cylinders #1&4 have damage
indentations from the valves hitting them at one time (don't look fresh)
>
> Do the factory domed pistons have reliefs for valves or no?
>
> I am contemplating milling the area where the pistons are hitting the
combustion chambers to gain the clearance back.
> I surmise that perhaps someone did not adjust the valves correctly and
damaged them when pistons hit them. They were bent, head was removed for a
valve job and someone milled the head too much. (or a poor man's performance
upgrade)
>
> The other option I'm told is doubling the head gasket or I was told there
was a copper shim made at one time for this problem.
> Neither strike me too well. The downside to milling is I don't know how much
meat is in that area of the head. I think removing .050" should be fine.
>
> Any thoughts comments appreciated.
>
> Marty
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From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 29 12:48:24 2011
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 12:48:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Front Hood
Message-ID: <193386.89077.qm@web121412.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Paint bubbles for only one reason, gas is being formed under it. Most often
the 
result of rust, and rust is caused by either not removing all the rust
before 
painting, or water under the paint. That is why humidity is important,
and 
prepsolis used to remove any trace of water from the surface prior to
painting. 

Jim 




________________________________
From: Richard Bush
<rabush2000 at hotmail.com>
To: John F Sandhoff <sandhoff at csus.edu>
Cc:
"datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon,
March 28, 2011 9:27:12 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Front Hood

I am having the
hood and trunk of my car painted - they are bubbling. The
trunk top is fine
but the hood - on the top front, where it flares, keeps
bubbling - The very
same place that prompted the painting in the first place.

Any ideas?

Rick
R
A Bush, 4806 Eck Lane, Austin Texas
512 574 8081

Sent from my iPad

On Mar
28, 2011, at 7:04 PM, "John F Sandhoff" <sandhoff at csus.edu> wrote:

>>
http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/datsun/fairlady/1066805.html
>
>
Hope this one doesn't belong to someone on the list... :-)
>
> For $18K I
would have hoped someone would have cleaned up
> all the hacks in the engine
bay. Car alarm where the washer bottle
> belongs, fuel line loosely flapping,
yes the fan shroud should be
> put back (a 7 blade fan is in there, too),
crankcase breather vent
> is plugged, and what's with the wiring next to the
carbs?
>
> And the paint overspray on the hard lines and hood latch...
>
> Is
this one of those "name 20 things wrong with this picture" contests?
>
> --
John
>    John F Sandhoff  sandhoff at csus.edu  Sacramento, CA
>
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From gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com  Tue Mar 29 14:08:30 2011
From: gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com (Gordon Maness)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:08:30 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Weather strip
In-Reply-To: <mailman.23.1301425203.17505.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.23.1301425203.17505.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <SNT137-w37B3A23305D8483E14085BB2BD0@phx.gbl>

For weather stripping I've had the best luck with (I know, it's a bad word) J.
C. Whitney.
It takes some searching thtough their site to find what is needed but often it
is there.

http://www.jcwhitney.com/weatherstripping/c3813j1s17.jcwx


g. with the fleet

From graemes at internode.on.net  Tue Mar 29 17:50:33 2011
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:20:33 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] question about hood latch assembly
In-Reply-To: <E621383932B94123BA0AA15A27E908A5@ranteer.local>
References: <E621383932B94123BA0AA15A27E908A5@ranteer.local>
Message-ID: <4D927E59.3010004@internode.on.net>

On 30/03/2011 5:57 AM, Dave wrote:
> o;?am I right in thinking this does not get painted?  should I clear coat it
> to protect it from rust?  or keep it heavily lubed? should I paint it anyway?
> Ibm not that concerned with originality.
>
> and it seems like when you move the latch assembly, the bhookb moves into
> the latch, then back out.  whatbs the best way to adjust this?  how should I
> have it positioned when I attach the cable?
>
> and yes, I know about the secondary cable.  I plan to do that
>
> (early 67 roadster)
>
> thanks!!!!!
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The hood/bonnet latch assy. on my '65 was plated.
If that is the way that you want to go, you can drill out the original 
rivets, dissemble, plate and re-assemble.
I used some large diam. pop rivets to assemble.
Use a generous dose of PH grease on the internals.
Move the catch arm until the cam is visible through the pin window.
Clamp the release cable to the arm when it is in that position.
Then, when you pull the release cable, the arm locks onto the lower pin, 
tensions the spring and the cam moves out of the window.
They could have made it more complicated but the Design Engineer ran out 
of time:-D
Pics. just for you ;-)
Let me know if you need any thing else, but NOT $;-)

-- 
Regards,
Graeme Suckling
1965 SP310 Datsun Sports
1971 P510 Datsun 1600
1972 PL510 Datsun 1600 LHD
1973 HS30 Datsun 240Z
1984 B120 Datsun 1200 utility
1993 ECR33 Skyline GTS25t
http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza
Adelaide
South Australia.

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From aultgc at att.net  Tue Mar 29 19:16:03 2011
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 21:16:03 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop
References: <633940.44465.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <D60D2FE7407C433DB7E1F93F3279BEBB@gaxp1>

Tom,

Looks like the one I used to have for my '66.  Bought new from Parrish 
Plastics.  No longer available -- they discarded the tooling years ago.

(I have no need for a hardtop any more, since the cars don't go out in 
weather in which I cannot be comfortable with the top down in at most a 
medium-weight winter coat, or in which there is moisture descending from the 
sky in any form.)

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom PRATHER" <tomet9 at sbcglobal.net>
To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.ne roadster list" 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:12 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop


> Saw on CL today, must be for low windshield.
>
> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/pts/2292833036.html
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From aultgc at att.net  Tue Mar 29 19:42:10 2011
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 21:42:10 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Weather strip
References: <mailman.23.1301425203.17505.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
	<SNT137-w37B3A23305D8483E14085BB2BD0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <244E00D9460B4CD5A684E47608030CA6@gaxp1>

Try Steele Rubber at www.steelerubber.com, (800) 544-8665.  They have 
weatherstipping for all sorts of American cars, and all sorts of 
configurations.  Also check the suppliers listed in Hemmings Motor News. 
There are other, similar suppliers.  I am confident you'll find something 
which will work.

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gordon Maness" <gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Weather strip


> For weather stripping I've had the best luck with (I know, it's a bad 
> word) J.
> C. Whitney.
> It takes some searching thtough their site to find what is needed but 
> often it
> is there.
>
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/weatherstripping/c3813j1s17.jcwx
>
>
> g. with the fleet
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From lee.ehinger at frontier.com  Wed Mar 30 04:04:29 2011
From: lee.ehinger at frontier.com (Lee Ehinger)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 07:04:29 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Weather strip
In-Reply-To: <244E00D9460B4CD5A684E47608030CA6@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <DC002D7EC16642C28D93CF115E3C38FF@ehingerhome>

Also try McMaster Carr http://www.mcmaster.com/#

If you have a piece of the old orig weatherstrip you may be able to match by
profile.
Lee
-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary and Cindy
Ault
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 10:42 PM
To: Gordon Maness; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Weather strip

Try Steele Rubber at www.steelerubber.com, (800) 544-8665.  They have
weatherstipping for all sorts of American cars, and all sorts of
configurations.  Also check the suppliers listed in Hemmings Motor News.
There are other, similar suppliers.  I am confident you'll find something
which will work.

Gary

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gordon Maness" <gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Weather strip


> For weather stripping I've had the best luck with (I know, it's a bad
> word) J.
> C. Whitney.
> It takes some searching thtough their site to find what is needed but
> often it
> is there.
>
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/weatherstripping/c3813j1s17.jcwx
>
>
> g. with the fleet

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Wed Mar 30 06:47:58 2011
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:47:58 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop
In-Reply-To: <D60D2FE7407C433DB7E1F93F3279BEBB@gaxp1>
References: <633940.44465.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<D60D2FE7407C433DB7E1F93F3279BEBB@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <001a01cbeee1$15eae900$41c0bb00$@net>

  Actually, Mr. Parrish sold all of his tooling to Smoothline Hard Tops.
They are still in business just outside of Pittsburgh.  I know they make the
late model hardtops, just not sure about early models.
http://www.smoothline.com/datsun_2000.php

Paul
Ohio

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary and Cindy
Ault
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 10:16 PM
To: Tom PRATHER; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.ne roadster list
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hardtop

Tom,

Looks like the one I used to have for my '66.  Bought new from Parrish 
Plastics.  No longer available -- they discarded the tooling years ago.

(I have no need for a hardtop any more, since the cars don't go out in 
weather in which I cannot be comfortable with the top down in at most a 
medium-weight winter coat, or in which there is moisture descending from the

sky in any form.)

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom PRATHER" <tomet9 at sbcglobal.net>
To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.ne roadster list" 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:12 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop


> Saw on CL today, must be for low windshield.
>
> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/pts/2292833036.html
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From RWM at RWMann.com  Wed Mar 30 07:05:24 2011
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 10:05:24 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop
In-Reply-To: <001a01cbeee1$15eae900$41c0bb00$@net>
References: <633940.44465.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<D60D2FE7407C433DB7E1F93F3279BEBB@gaxp1>
	<001a01cbeee1$15eae900$41c0bb00$@net>
Message-ID: <4D9338A4.1000507@RWMann.com>

Ouch.   "Only" $1200 in primer...  Hello, sunshine!



On 3/30/2011 9:47 AM, Paul wrote:
>    Actually, Mr. Parrish sold all of his tooling to Smoothline Hard Tops.
> They are still in business just outside of Pittsburgh.  I know they make the
> late model hardtops, just not sure about early models.
> http://www.smoothline.com/datsun_2000.php
>
> Paul
> Ohio
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary and Cindy
> Ault
> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 10:16 PM
> To: Tom PRATHER; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.ne roadster list
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hardtop
>
> Tom,
>
> Looks like the one I used to have for my '66.  Bought new from Parrish
> Plastics.  No longer available -- they discarded the tooling years ago.
>
> (I have no need for a hardtop any more, since the cars don't go out in
> weather in which I cannot be comfortable with the top down in at most a
> medium-weight winter coat, or in which there is moisture descending from the
>
> sky in any form.)
>
> Gary
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom PRATHER"<tomet9 at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.ne roadster list"
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:12 AM
> Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop
>
>
>> Saw on CL today, must be for low windshield.
>>
>> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/pts/2292833036.html

From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Wed Mar 30 07:46:17 2011
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 07:46:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop
In-Reply-To: <4D9338A4.1000507@RWMann.com>
Message-ID: <32448.17550.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

That's half what I paid for my '70 2000 24 years ago -- but I have lusted
after one of these beautiful hardtops from the first time I saw one. I have
always wanted to have a Parrish Hardtop for inclement weather and a tonneau
for everything else -- hang the hardtop up in the garage ready to lower down
onto the car if necessary.

Gary McCormick
'70 2000
San Jose, CA

--- On Wed, 3/30/11, RWM <RWM at RWMann.com> wrote:

From: RWM <RWM at RWMann.com>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hardtop
To: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net>
Cc: "'Tom PRATHER'" <tomet9 at sbcglobal.net>, "'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.ne
roadster list'" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 7:05 AM

Ouch.   "Only" $1200 in primer...  Hello, sunshine!

From RWM at RWMann.com  Wed Mar 30 08:00:17 2011
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:00:17 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] --> Re:  Hardtop
In-Reply-To: <32448.17550.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <32448.17550.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4D934581.2030903@RWMann.com>

Me, too, and it's almost */twice/* what I spent on my '68 2000 in 1975. ;-)


On 3/30/2011 10:46 AM, Gary McCormick wrote:
> That's half what I paid for my '70 2000 24 years ago -- but I have lusted
> after one of these beautiful hardtops from the first time I saw one. I have
> always wanted to have a Parrish Hardtop for inclement weather and a tonneau
> for everything else -- hang the hardtop up in the garage ready to lower down
> onto the car if necessary.
>
> Gary McCormick
> '70 2000
> San Jose, CA
>
> --- On Wed, 3/30/11, RWM<RWM at RWMann.com>  wrote:
>
> From: RWM<RWM at RWMann.com>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hardtop
> To: "Paul"<9laser3 at bright.net>
> Cc: "'Tom PRATHER'"<tomet9 at sbcglobal.net>, "'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.ne
> roadster list'"<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 7:05 AM
>
> Ouch.   "Only" $1200 in primer...  Hello, sunshine!

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Wed Mar 30 09:11:12 2011
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 12:11:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] --> Re:  Hardtop
In-Reply-To: <4D934581.2030903@RWMann.com>
References: <32448.17550.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4D934581.2030903@RWMann.com>
Message-ID: <8CDBD0C38B76CF2-1434-47C7@webmail-m053.sysops.aol.com>

 They wreck the paint though don't they? Not sure anyone has solved that
problem.

Linda








-----Original Message-----
From: RWM <RWM at RWMann.com>
To: Gary McCormick <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: 'Datsun Roadster List' <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Mar 30, 2011 8:06 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] --> Re:  Hardtop


Me, too, and it's almost */twice/* what I spent on my '68 2000 in 1975. ;-)


On 3/30/2011 10:46 AM, Gary McCormick wrote:
> That's half what I paid for my '70 2000 24 years ago -- but I have lusted
> after one of these beautiful hardtops from the first time I saw one. I have
> always wanted to have a Parrish Hardtop for inclement weather and a tonneau
> for everything else -- hang the hardtop up in the garage ready to lower
down
> onto the car if necessary.
>
> Gary McCormick
> '70 2000
> San Jose, CA
>
> --- On Wed, 3/30/11, RWM<RWM at RWMann.com>  wrote:
>
> From: RWM<RWM at RWMann.com>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hardtop
> To: "Paul"<9laser3 at bright.net>
> Cc: "'Tom PRATHER'"<tomet9 at sbcglobal.net>, "'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.ne
> roadster list'"<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 7:05 AM
>
> Ouch.   "Only" $1200 in primer...  Hello, sunshine!
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From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Wed Mar 30 09:42:10 2011
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:42:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] --> Re:  Hardtop
In-Reply-To: <8CDBD0C38B76CF2-1434-47C7@webmail-m053.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <531410.70969.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have heard of folks putting clear film -- like the chipguard that's
available as an OEM option on some cars -- on the area where the hardtop
contacts the paint.

I can say that, in my case, the hardtop (if I had one) wouldn't be on much. In
24 years I've had my soft-top up twice (not a daily driver).

--- On Wed, 3/30/11, ljordan704 at netscape.net <ljordan704 at netscape.net> wrote:

From: ljordan704 at netscape.net <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] --> Re:  Hardtop
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 9:11 AM

 They wreck the paint though don't they? Not sure anyone has solved that
problem.

Linda








-----Original Message-----
From: RWM <RWM at RWMann.com>
To: Gary McCormick <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: 'Datsun Roadster List' <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Mar 30, 2011 8:06 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] --> Re:  Hardtop


Me, too, and it's almost */twice/* what I spent on my '68 2000 in 1975. ;-)


On 3/30/2011 10:46 AM, Gary McCormick wrote:
> That's half what I paid for my '70 2000 24 years ago -- but I have lusted
> after one of these beautiful hardtops from the first time I saw one. I have
> always wanted to have a Parrish Hardtop for inclement weather and a tonneau
> for everything else -- hang the hardtop up in the garage ready to lower
down
> onto the car if necessary.
>
> Gary McCormick
> '70 2000
> San Jose, CA
>
> --- On Wed, 3/30/11, RWM<RWM at RWMann.com>  wrote:
>
> From: RWM<RWM at RWMann.com>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hardtop
> To: "Paul"<9laser3 at bright.net>
> Cc: "'Tom PRATHER'"<tomet9 at sbcglobal.net>, "'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.ne
> roadster list'"<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 7:05 AM
>
> Ouch.   "Only" $1200 in primer...  Hello, sunshine!
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From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com  Wed Mar 30 09:46:15 2011
From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:46:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] --> Re:  Hardtop
In-Reply-To: <8CDBD0C38B76CF2-1434-47C7@webmail-m053.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <522320.84260.qm@web130201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I used to have one for the low-windshield car that actually sat on the trim
piece rather than on the paint.  I did not use it, and traded it off to a
friend, but I really liked that it did not sit on the paint.  Only seen that
type for the early cars though.


Mike Harper, CAI, AARE
Harper Auction & Realty
843-729-4996
"Experience Sells"

www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET
 
 

--- On Wed, 3/30/11, ljordan704 at netscape.net <ljordan704 at netscape.net> wrote:


From: ljordan704 at netscape.net <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] --> Re: Hardtop
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 12:11 PM


They wreck the paint though don't they? Not sure anyone has solved that
problem.

Linda








-----Original Message-----
From: RWM <RWM at RWMann.com>
To: Gary McCormick <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: 'Datsun Roadster List' <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Mar 30, 2011 8:06 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] --> Re:  Hardtop


Me, too, and it's almost */twice/* what I spent on my '68 2000 in 1975. ;-)


On 3/30/2011 10:46 AM, Gary McCormick wrote:
> That's half what I paid for my '70 2000 24 years ago -- but I have lusted
> after one of these beautiful hardtops from the first time I saw one. I have
> always wanted to have a Parrish Hardtop for inclement weather and a tonneau
> for everything else -- hang the hardtop up in the garage ready to lower
down
> onto the car if necessary.
>
> Gary McCormick
> '70 2000
> San Jose, CA
>
> --- On Wed, 3/30/11, RWM<RWM at RWMann.com>  wrote:
>
> From: RWM<RWM at RWMann.com>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hardtop
> To: "Paul"<9laser3 at bright.net>
> Cc: "'Tom PRATHER'"<tomet9 at sbcglobal.net>, "'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.ne
> roadster list'"<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 7:05 AM
>
> Ouch.   "Only" $1200 in primer...  Hello, sunshine!
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From svedise at hotmail.com  Wed Mar 30 09:50:17 2011
From: svedise at hotmail.com (Jim Svedise)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:50:17 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] --> Re:  Hardtop
In-Reply-To: <8CDBD0C38B76CF2-1434-47C7@webmail-m053.sysops.aol.com>
References: <32448.17550.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com><4D934581.2030903@RWMann.com>
	<8CDBD0C38B76CF2-1434-47C7@webmail-m053.sysops.aol.com>
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If anyone wants to buy a nice hard top for a 68 to 70 send me an email.  I 
can send you some pic's and we can talk price. I will bring it to Solvang if 
someone wants to buy. All sunny day's down here in Mexico so I do not need 
it anymore.

Jim
70 2000


-----Original Message----- 
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 9:11 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] --> Re: Hardtop

They wreck the paint though don't they? Not sure anyone has solved that
problem.

Linda








-----Original Message-----
From: RWM <RWM at RWMann.com>
To: Gary McCormick <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: 'Datsun Roadster List' <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Mar 30, 2011 8:06 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] --> Re:  Hardtop


Me, too, and it's almost */twice/* what I spent on my '68 2000 in 1975. ;-)


On 3/30/2011 10:46 AM, Gary McCormick wrote:
> That's half what I paid for my '70 2000 24 years ago -- but I have lusted
> after one of these beautiful hardtops from the first time I saw one. I 
> have
> always wanted to have a Parrish Hardtop for inclement weather and a 
> tonneau
> for everything else -- hang the hardtop up in the garage ready to lower
down
> onto the car if necessary.
>
> Gary McCormick
> '70 2000
> San Jose, CA
>
> --- On Wed, 3/30/11, RWM<RWM at RWMann.com>  wrote:
>
> From: RWM<RWM at RWMann.com>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hardtop
> To: "Paul"<9laser3 at bright.net>
> Cc: "'Tom PRATHER'"<tomet9 at sbcglobal.net>, 
> "'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.ne
> roadster list'"<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 7:05 AM
>
> Ouch.   "Only" $1200 in primer...  Hello, sunshine!
________________________________________

From poontang188 at hotmail.com  Wed Mar 30 09:52:56 2011
From: poontang188 at hotmail.com (Scott Sheeler)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 12:52:56 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 5th Anniversary SALE - The Datsun Rodster Book
Message-ID: <BAY164-w31ED94C7C272754450BB72FCBC0@phx.gbl>

To celebrate the 5th Anniversary of the sale of the first copy of The Datsun
Roadster Book to Paul F. of Bethlehem, Connecticut on April 25, 2006 we are
running an Anniversary SALE with special pricing.  Please visit our website or
311s.org for more information.

Thanks and apologies for any intrusion.

Scott Sheeler
http://thedatsunroadsterbook.com/

From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Wed Mar 30 10:32:58 2011
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 12:32:58 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] --> Re: Hardtop
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> Linda

> B They wreck the paint though don't they? Not sure anyone has solved that
> problem.
>
>
We bought our first 2000 new in '70. The dealer (Earl Hughes in Ft.
Worth) didn't have the hardtop I wanted (I think the Parrish with the
pop-out rear quater windows) so they installed a used top they had
while we waited for the one I wanted to arrive. There was a shipping
strike going on then so it took much longer that we thought it would,
even in those pre FedEx and UPS days.

One day I decided to pull the top (probably to wax the whole car) and
the rubber gasket had literally sanded through the paint and has
started to gouge the sheet metal quite a bit. I guess dirt and such
worked its way under the gasket and acted as a abrasive. Needless to
say I wasn't too happy with that. I took it back to the dealer. They
fixed the paint, put a new soft top back (I'd "deleted" that) on the
car and we canceled the hardtop order.

I'd think that a couple of layers of clear mylar under the gasket
would work well to avoid the problem today, but it would probably need
to be replaced periodically. Pretty easy to do.

FWIW,
Ron

From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Wed Mar 30 11:24:48 2011
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS))
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 18:24:48 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] hardtop chafing, Solvang southward Sunday drive
Message-ID: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F6602B206@XMBC3087.northgrum.com>

Chafing of the paint is a problem with the seal design.  To avoid it you need
to have a bulb seal, (resembling a D in cross-section) so that the seal rolls
with the movement, doesn't want to drag.  The bigger the loop of the D the
better.  Double the diameter of the door seals should work well.
Thin film slippery tape will work for a while, and the paint experts can chime
in here, but eventually the pressure and heat of the hardtop will make the
tape adhesive start to flow/bond into the paint surface, so that when you
remove it some of the paint will come off with it.
I have seen one where there was a large enough seal at the rear that only the
side clamps were used, no front clamps, and no problems under extended use.
(this would make it handy cause you wouldn't have to transfer your set of
clamps. (or buy a second set, ouch!)
If anyone is looking to try running a hardtop and wants some tape for this
use, let me know, I can get you a roll, bring it along to Solvang.  (to go
with Jim's top, stylin'!)

Last minute decision but I am going to come along to Solvang this year,
although I'll be on the oh-dark-thirty Saturday morning parade.

Last years' Sunday drive home southward we took some backroads thru Ojai,
Lockwood Valley, Frazier Park.  Let me know if anyone is interested, and I
will bring maps.
I think we left at ~ 8am last year and it worked out well.  Might even see
some snow this year.

Fergus O

From robbieharrison at comcast.net  Wed Mar 30 12:52:40 2011
From: robbieharrison at comcast.net (Robbie Harrison)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:52:40 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop
In-Reply-To: <32448.17550.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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	<32448.17550.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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I'll agree that the Parrish top looks nice, but I much prefer the porthole
top I had on my 1600 back in 1985. I think my Dad still has that hardtop at
his house. I currently have one with little hinged pop out windows awaiting
restoration

Robbie in CT
68 2000
69 2000 (parts)

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary McCormick
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 10:46 AM
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hardtop

That's half what I paid for my '70 2000 24 years ago -- but I have lusted
after one of these beautiful hardtops from the first time I saw one. I have
always wanted to have a Parrish Hardtop for inclement weather and a tonneau
for everything else -- hang the hardtop up in the garage ready to lower down
onto the car if necessary.

Gary McCormick
'70 2000
San Jose, CA

--- On Wed, 3/30/11, RWM <RWM at RWMann.com> wrote:

From: RWM <RWM at RWMann.com>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hardtop
To: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net>
Cc: "'Tom PRATHER'" <tomet9 at sbcglobal.net>, "'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.ne
roadster list'" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 7:05 AM

Ouch.   "Only" $1200 in primer...  Hello, sunshine!
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From SConway at fielders.com.au  Wed Mar 30 13:37:04 2011
From: SConway at fielders.com.au (Sam Conway)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 07:07:04 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop
Message-ID: <09E4074C0F830C458934327282278BF00C6A95DD@EDWEXVS01.hills.hillsad.com>

Didn't the original hard tops sit on the trim at the back not on the body work. It would be great to see if anyone makes a high screen top that is the same as the original oem design. 
Samuel
68 2000 aus 

----- Original Message -----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net>
To: 'Datsun Roadster List' <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu Mar 31 06:22:40 2011
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hardtop

I'll agree that the Parrish top looks nice, but I much prefer the porthole
top I had on my 1600 back in 1985. I think my Dad still has that hardtop at
his house. I currently have one with little hinged pop out windows awaiting
restoration

Robbie in CT
68 2000
69 2000 (parts)

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary McCormick
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 10:46 AM
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hardtop

That's half what I paid for my '70 2000 24 years ago -- but I have lusted
after one of these beautiful hardtops from the first time I saw one. I have
always wanted to have a Parrish Hardtop for inclement weather and a tonneau
for everything else -- hang the hardtop up in the garage ready to lower down
onto the car if necessary.

Gary McCormick
'70 2000
San Jose, CA

--- On Wed, 3/30/11, RWM <RWM at RWMann.com> wrote:

From: RWM <RWM at RWMann.com>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hardtop
To: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net>
Cc: "'Tom PRATHER'" <tomet9 at sbcglobal.net>, "'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.ne
roadster list'" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 7:05 AM

Ouch.   "Only" $1200 in primer...  Hello, sunshine!
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From dstanton1 at bak.rr.com  Wed Mar 30 15:35:44 2011
From: dstanton1 at bak.rr.com (David B. Stanton)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:35:44 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop
Message-ID: <762D0CEE148A419AB47CE8754D9F0077@DavidBPC>

I bought my Dynoplastics Hardtop new when I bought my 1970 2000 new.  It
certainly damaged the paint, and forty one years later, with the original
factory paint still on the car, I know of no cure.  On the other hand, you
don't see the damage when the hardtop is on the car (very rarely the case).
Dave

From datsunroadsters at yahoo.com  Wed Mar 30 17:51:54 2011
From: datsunroadsters at yahoo.com (Eddie Wu / SAKE RKT)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 17:51:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop
In-Reply-To: <762D0CEE148A419AB47CE8754D9F0077@DavidBPC>
Message-ID: <826115.99468.qm@web111511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

My hardtop (manufacturer unknown) hardly touches the paint.  It doesn't sit on
the rear trim (u-bar) but instead, the hardtop sort of rests on top of the
softop hardware/twisties.

The hardtop has been on my Roadster about 99% of
the time for the last 2-3 years.  I removed it occasionally when I do a
complete detail on the car which is about 1-2x a year.  There is some marking
on the paint, but nothing that I haven't been able to buff out.

-Eddie
SAKE
RKT
'66 1600

--- On Wed, 3/30/11, David B. Stanton <dstanton1 at bak.rr.com>
wrote:

> From: David B. Stanton <dstanton1 at bak.rr.com>
> Subject: [Roadsters]
Hardtop
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Wednesday, March 30,
2011, 3:35 PM
> I bought my Dynoplastics Hardtop new
> when I bought my 1970
2000 new.  It
> certainly damaged the paint, and forty one years later,
> with
the original
> factory paint still on the car, I know of no cure.  On
> the
other hand, you
> don't see the damage when the hardtop is on the car (very
>
rarely the case).
> Dave
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Wed Mar 30 17:59:37 2011
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 20:59:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop
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 That's good, because your car is beautiful! Hate to see the paint getting
wrecked--
Linda








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To: datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Mar 30, 2011 5:54 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hardtop


My hardtop (manufacturer unknown) hardly touches the paint.  It doesn't sit
on
the rear trim (u-bar) but instead, the hardtop sort of rests on top of the
softop hardware/twisties.

The hardtop has been on my Roadster about 99% of
the time for the last 2-3 years.  I removed it occasionally when I do a
complete detail on the car which is about 1-2x a year.  There is some marking
on the paint, but nothing that I haven't been able to buff out.

-Eddie
SAKE
RKT
'66 1600

--- On Wed, 3/30/11, David B. Stanton <dstanton1 at bak.rr.com>
wrote:

> From: David B. Stanton <dstanton1 at bak.rr.com>
> Subject: [Roadsters]
Hardtop
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Wednesday, March 30,
2011, 3:35 PM
> I bought my Dynoplastics Hardtop new
> when I bought my 1970
2000 new.  It
> certainly damaged the paint, and forty one years later,
> with
the original
> factory paint still on the car, I know of no cure.  On
> the
other hand, you
> don't see the damage when the hardtop is on the car (very
>
rarely the case).
> Dave
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From aultgc at att.net  Wed Mar 30 19:30:27 2011
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:30:27 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] --> Re:  Hardtop
References: <32448.17550.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com><4D934581.2030903@RWMann.com>
	<8CDBD0C38B76CF2-1434-47C7@webmail-m053.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <EA9D740E45944D8CBCD1152C38F0F478@gaxp1>

Linda,

Mine never damaged my paint any more than the standard soft top.

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] --> Re: Hardtop


> They wreck the paint though don't they? Not sure anyone has solved that
> problem.
>
> Linda
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWM <RWM at RWMann.com>
> To: Gary McCormick <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: 'Datsun Roadster List' <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, Mar 30, 2011 8:06 am
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] --> Re:  Hardtop
>
>
> Me, too, and it's almost */twice/* what I spent on my '68 2000 in 1975. 
> ;-)
>
>
> On 3/30/2011 10:46 AM, Gary McCormick wrote:
>> That's half what I paid for my '70 2000 24 years ago -- but I have lusted
>> after one of these beautiful hardtops from the first time I saw one. I 
>> have
>> always wanted to have a Parrish Hardtop for inclement weather and a 
>> tonneau
>> for everything else -- hang the hardtop up in the garage ready to lower
> down
>> onto the car if necessary.
>>
>> Gary McCormick
>> '70 2000
>> San Jose, CA
>>
>> --- On Wed, 3/30/11, RWM<RWM at RWMann.com>  wrote:
>>
>> From: RWM<RWM at RWMann.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hardtop
>> To: "Paul"<9laser3 at bright.net>
>> Cc: "'Tom PRATHER'"<tomet9 at sbcglobal.net>, 
>> "'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.ne
>> roadster list'"<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 7:05 AM
>>
>> Ouch.   "Only" $1200 in primer...  Hello, sunshine!
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From aultgc at att.net  Wed Mar 30 20:07:35 2011
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:07:35 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop
References: <826115.99468.qm@web111511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A9654B0232764B1C82E5FDF83D582ACF@gaxp1>

Eddie,

Your experience matches mine.  But, I have to ask, why own a roadster on 
which you need to keep a hardtop?  If I needed to keep a hardtop on my 
roadster to drive it, I would get a different car which performs better, 
like a 240Z or an RX-7.

Sure to provoke controversy....

Gary
----- Original Message ----- 
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To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hardtop


> My hardtop (manufacturer unknown) hardly touches the paint.  It doesn't 
> sit on
> the rear trim (u-bar) but instead, the hardtop sort of rests on top of the
> softop hardware/twisties.
>
> The hardtop has been on my Roadster about 99% of
> the time for the last 2-3 years.  I removed it occasionally when I do a
> complete detail on the car which is about 1-2x a year.  There is some 
> marking
> on the paint, but nothing that I haven't been able to buff out.
>
> -Eddie
> SAKE
> RKT
> '66 1600
>
> --- On Wed, 3/30/11, David B. Stanton <dstanton1 at bak.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>> From: David B. Stanton <dstanton1 at bak.rr.com>
>> Subject: [Roadsters]
> Hardtop
>> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>> Date: Wednesday, March 30,
> 2011, 3:35 PM
>> I bought my Dynoplastics Hardtop new
>> when I bought my 1970
> 2000 new.  It
>> certainly damaged the paint, and forty one years later,
>> with
> the original
>> factory paint still on the car, I know of no cure.  On
>> the
> other hand, you
>> don't see the damage when the hardtop is on the car (very
>>
> rarely the case).
>> Dave
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From phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov  Thu Mar 31 05:03:28 2011
From: phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED10))
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 07:03:28 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop
In-Reply-To: <A9654B0232764B1C82E5FDF83D582ACF@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <C9B9D7C0.813A%phillip.b.hall@nasa.gov>

Now you went and did it Gary!  Haha

Actually, back in the day I loved to drive my Roadster year around.  Took it
skiing every weekend in Idaho.  Now I am spoiled by new cars.  And actually
agree with you - I would love to build a V8 Z for nasty days for that added
driving 'smile'.  This year in the South it would have been put to good use
- rained over 10 inches this month.

Like some here - I don't even put a top on my Roadster.  I like'm topless
and in the sun!  Ahh, Roadsters too...

Phil
SEROC


On 3/30/11 10:07 PM, "Gary and Cindy Ault" <aultgc at att.net> wrote:

> Eddie,
>
> Your experience matches mine.  But, I have to ask, why own a roadster on
> which you need to keep a hardtop?  If I needed to keep a hardtop on my
> roadster to drive it, I would get a different car which performs better,
> like a 240Z or an RX-7.
>
> Sure to provoke controversy....
>
> Gary
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eddie Wu / SAKE RKT" <datsunroadsters at yahoo.com>
> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 7:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hardtop
>
>
>> My hardtop (manufacturer unknown) hardly touches the paint.  It doesn't
>> sit on
>> the rear trim (u-bar) but instead, the hardtop sort of rests on top of the
>> softop hardware/twisties.
>>
>> The hardtop has been on my Roadster about 99% of
>> the time for the last 2-3 years.  I removed it occasionally when I do a
>> complete detail on the car which is about 1-2x a year.  There is some
>> marking
>> on the paint, but nothing that I haven't been able to buff out.
>>
>> -Eddie
>> SAKE
>> RKT
>> '66 1600
>>
>> --- On Wed, 3/30/11, David B. Stanton <dstanton1 at bak.rr.com>
>> wrote:

From stebharvey at ameritech.net  Thu Mar 31 08:04:51 2011
From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 08:04:51 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Smoothline Hardtop
Message-ID: <NNEJLCLFHGMBEEKOEPAHCEFFCBAA.stebharvey@ameritech.net>

I'm having my 70 2000 painted this spring along with my hardtop and trailer.
The paint shop guy suggested that we install a one piece polished stainless
trim piece (with a gasket)on the body that matches the profile of the rubber
gasket. I'm going to build a template, place it and see how it looks with
the soft top installed.

Steve

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Thu Mar 31 06:33:28 2011
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 09:33:28 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop
In-Reply-To: <C9B9D7C0.813A%phillip.b.hall@nasa.gov>
References: <A9654B0232764B1C82E5FDF83D582ACF@gaxp1>
	<C9B9D7C0.813A%phillip.b.hall@nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <000c01cbefa8$399f0c60$acdd2520$@net>

-----Original Message-----
From: Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED10)

- rained over 10 inches this month.
*****************************

  You could live up here.  We got 2" of snow yesterday!

  I use my hardtop all winter, .....in the garage to keep from piling junk
in the roadster while it snows outside!  And since I don't have a soft top
installed, I use the hardtop when I head out for a long haul, like the Mitty
last spring.  One of these days, I'll get the soft top I bought 10 years ago
installed!

Paul
Ohio

From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Thu Mar 31 06:34:02 2011
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS))
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:34:02 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] hardtop notes, the sequel
Message-ID: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F6602B330@XMBC3087.northgrum.com>

A few more ruminations on hardtops.
A high screen top that only sat on the cockpit surround would be a pretty
strange look to it.  The hi screen already has a pretty steep angle on the
front, and leaving enough headroom and then sloping downward at a similarly
sharp angle to the rear would get pretty tricky ("tricky" meaning lotsa ways
to make it come out really ugly)
      The designer pulled off "tricky on this one:  (I suspect the seats &
screen are lower relative to body height)
        http://www.ridelust.com/wp-content/uploads/lancia-fulvia-hf.jpg

The paint chafing is because the deck is being used as the "stops" for the
hardtop.  I suspect on Eddies' car someone thought this thru (like lots on
Eddies' car, i.e. narrowed MGB front lip) and made the side clamps draw down
to "stops" which hold the seal in contact with the car but not compress it
hard against the car painted surface.  This leaves the seal free to roll, not
drag. (it makes front clamps mandatory as well)
But by doing this it cants the top upward in back, so now door sealing edges
and window tops are slightly non-parallel.  Since it is fiberglass this is
easily remedied, although a thicker door seal would probably make up for it
easily as well.

A real drawback to hardtops is airflow.  There is no "out", so little air will
flow in, so it is probably get hot and stuffy.   course some of you have
operable wing windows, unlike the hi screen crowd.
I always wanted to change the rear screen to be hinged the top, so it could be
canted out and clipped at the bottom. (hinges from Ford ranger extracab side
windows?)  Notice some vintage racers have holes cut in the base of the rear
screen (polycarbonate replacement) for this reason.

Much like Gary, I have put up my top 5 times in 11 years, partly due to it
being pretty trashed when I bought the car. (some would add: "so was
everything else on your car, Fergus" !)  The occasional rain just makes me
laugh harder, think of of the reaction any complaints as to "rain" would draw
from Irish relatives, and always have a pair of safety glasses handy when
driving.  And stay over 40mph, which gets exciting at times.
Haven't done the "don the foulies" like Ken Pletcher did.... Yet.

Fergus O
who has a really nice, non-porthole hardtop suspended in the garage, but I'd
be bumping my head off the inside when driving, so have yet to use it.   uhh,
yes, it is so nicely restored it would look out of place with the condition of
the rest of my car...

From dogermac at aol.com  Thu Mar 31 08:00:26 2011
From: dogermac at aol.com (Dogermac)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 11:00:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop
In-Reply-To: <762D0CEE148A419AB47CE8754D9F0077@DavidBPC>
References: <762D0CEE148A419AB47CE8754D9F0077@DavidBPC>
Message-ID: <8CDBDCB80B71B88-1114-10E29@Webmail-m105.sysops.aol.com>

 The fellow who bought my '67 in Germany (1968) installed an aluminum diamond
plate scuff guard from the rear cockpit trim back to where the Parrish top now
fits.  That solution looks nice and he's been very pleased with it.  Still has
the original engine and trans and looks great in the pictures he sends
occasionally.  The sale of that car (bought a new BMW 1600ti) and the regrets
there from are the reason I now drive my '70 SRL, but here in Florida I rarely
need a top of any kind,
Jim
Sarasota








-----Original Message-----
From: David B. Stanton <dstanton1 at bak.rr.com>
To: datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Mar 30, 2011 6:55 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop


I bought my Dynoplastics Hardtop new when I bought my 1970 2000 new.  It

certainly damaged the paint, and forty one years later, with the original

factory paint still on the car, I know of no cure.  On the other hand, you

don't see the damage when the hardtop is on the car (very rarely the case).

Dave

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From u20power67 at hotmail.com  Thu Mar 31 09:16:57 2011
From: u20power67 at hotmail.com (n ruff)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 11:16:57 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Headlight / Wiper Switch
In-Reply-To: <4D927E59.3010004@internode.on.net>
References: <E621383932B94123BA0AA15A27E908A5@ranteer.local>,
	<4D927E59.3010004@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <SNT128-W27EAAED71C12D3868DABC2C6BF0@phx.gbl>

Strange question:  Are the headlight and wiper switches wired the same for a
70 roadster?  They are both 2 position pull switches and the plug design
appears to be the same as well?  Anyone know if a wiper switch will operate as
a headlight switch?  My fathers car needs a headlight switch and I have an
extra wiper switch.  Before we search for a new one I thought I would poll you
first...

Thanks!

From datsundawg at sc.rr.com  Thu Mar 31 14:45:32 2011
From: datsundawg at sc.rr.com (datsundawg at sc.rr.com)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:45:32 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop
In-Reply-To: <8CDBD560A68DF4B-1D04-7EE6@webmail-d148.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <20110331214532.QSUE9.82030.root@hrndva-web21-z02>

My 66 hard top sits on the black hard plastic trim piece and not on the paint (even though it is spray can painted, it is important that it doesn't rub it off!) Of course now that I have a soft top it hangs in the garage (which is the same place I always saw it at Mike Harper's house prior to me buying it from him)

David
---- ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: 
>  That's good, because your car is beautiful! Hate to see the paint getting
> wrecked--
> Linda
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eddie Wu / SAKE RKT <datsunroadsters at yahoo.com>
> To: datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, Mar 30, 2011 5:54 pm
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hardtop
> 
> 
> My hardtop (manufacturer unknown) hardly touches the paint.  It doesn't sit
> on
> the rear trim (u-bar) but instead, the hardtop sort of rests on top of the
> softop hardware/twisties.
> 
> The hardtop has been on my Roadster about 99% of
> the time for the last 2-3 years.  I removed it occasionally when I do a
> complete detail on the car which is about 1-2x a year.  There is some marking
> on the paint, but nothing that I haven't been able to buff out.
> 
> -Eddie
> SAKE
> RKT
> '66 1600
> 
> --- On Wed, 3/30/11, David B. Stanton <dstanton1 at bak.rr.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: David B. Stanton <dstanton1 at bak.rr.com>
> > Subject: [Roadsters]
> Hardtop
> > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> > Date: Wednesday, March 30,
> 2011, 3:35 PM
> > I bought my Dynoplastics Hardtop new
> > when I bought my 1970
> 2000 new.  It
> > certainly damaged the paint, and forty one years later,
> > with
> the original
> > factory paint still on the car, I know of no cure.  On
> > the
> other hand, you
> > don't see the damage when the hardtop is on the car (very
> >
> rarely the case).
> > Dave
> > ________________________________________
> >
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From roadster2 at schroeder-family.us  Thu Mar 31 16:41:37 2011
From: roadster2 at schroeder-family.us (Fred Schroeder)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:41:37 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] How to move alternator from driver to passenger side
References: <007e01cbe9b3$1b091930$511b4b90$@net>
Message-ID: <001601cbeffd$2e2c7160$6400a8c0@efs8c31bf7afa0>

Here is a write-up and picture how I did mine.  Look about half way down the
page.

http://schroeder-family.us/datsun.htm

Best regards,

Fred Schroeder
roadster2 at schroeder-family.us
Home page: http://schroeder-family.us
NRA Life Member

Behold the superfluous. They are always sick. They
vomit their gall and call it a newspaper.
Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche   1844-1900
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Pete Peters
  To: Datsun Roadster List
  Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 6:36 PM
  Subject: [Roadsters] How to move alternator from driver to passenger side


  Forwarding to list for Jon.


  -----Original Message-----
  From: shas1983 at netzero.net [mailto:shas1983 at netzero.net]
  Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 2:50 PM
  To: ppeters914 at comcast.net
  Subject: Re: [Roadsters] simple measure to set late styile floats on 2000
  SU's

  [snip]

  My lower alternator bolt shared off into the motor mount in the original
  drivers side position. If I want to switch to the passenger side can
someone
  tell me how they secure the top and bottom mounting of the alternator.
  Rerouting the wiring seems easy enough.

  Thanks

  Jon
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From alvingogi at gmail.com  Thu Mar 31 16:43:34 2011
From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 16:43:34 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns Vintage Racing at 'Seca 4/30 and 5/1
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http://www.zcarblog.com/2011/03/31/events/datsuns-racing-at-laguna-seca-430-and-51.html

Several 510s and roadsters will be racing so come out show your support and
enjoy some Datsun Domination!