From tputland at charter.net Fri Jul 1 05:37:14 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 07:37:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Alt vs battery Message-ID: <6b83f8ea.14392e.130e57d0788.Webtop.47@charter.net> Well, it has been a week since I did the following: Cleaned up the two grounds from the alt to the body (they were not real bad but were not 100% clean either) and added (?) a ground from the starter to the body (did these cars come with this ground when new?). For years the car has been hardish to start: I would turn the key, the engine would kick once, hesitate, then turn over/start. Now, after the above mentioned work, the engine turns right over. So that issue has been solved. As for the charging issue, I am still not 100% convinced this issue has been solved**. But, the battery has been connected for a week now (I used to disconnect it when I got home from a run) and the car has started just fine each time I have tried to start it during this week. Last night will be the test: I drove home after dark with both the headlights on bright and my garmin plugged into an auxiliary power jack I put in the car last year. I will see if the car will start on its own when I get home today. **I am still concerned that the ammeter no longer goes into the positive side of the scale. But, since it does go into the negative with the headlights on so the gauge does work. Thanks again for all help and advice offered!! Tim From tputland at charter.net Fri Jul 1 05:59:15 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 07:59:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] highspeed backfire Message-ID: <3b8d6518.143b57.130e5912ed5.Webtop.47@charter.net> Several weeks ago my 70 1600 (w GB/ dizzy) started to backfire, once very very loud, at highspeed, when I take my foot off the gas pedal. A buddy's 70 1600 (reg dizzy) does the same thing just not as loud as mine does. What could be causing this? Thanks Tim From tputland at charter.net Fri Jul 1 05:59:54 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 07:59:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] paging Gary Boone Message-ID: <6a9e18f1.143b64.130e591c9de.Webtop.47@charter.net> Please contact me off list. Thanks Tim From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Fri Jul 1 06:48:35 2011 From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 05:48:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 150 hp engine for sale In-Reply-To: References: <1309478552.96724.YahooMailClassic@web121405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1309524515.55130.YahooMailNeo@web121409.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> oops! I mis remembered, I'll look at them and correct as needed. Jim From: Gary and Cindy Ault To: Jim Gammon Sent: Friday, July 1, 2011 12:17 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 150 hp engine for sale Jim, I've never seen Solex replicas made by Hitachi. Those I have seen were made by Mikuni undrer license from Solex. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Gammon" To: "Datsun roadster" Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:02 PM Subject: [Roadsters] 150 hp engine for sale > Hi all, the following is from my Ebay listing. This is the engine I got 3 > years ago when I bought my 69 2k down in Houston. It would not get over 100 > mph, and it turned out the front two cylinders only had 80 lb compression, the > result of a stuck from choke cable. Yeah, I got skunked by the seller, who > said it was in good condition. Maybe he didn't know better? > As you can see, it is completely with air cleaner and linkage and I was told > the cam is the 150 hp one, and I'm sure it is. It ran well. I bought a used > engine from Carl H and rebuilt it as a 135 hp, I like that setup. > I also have the 5 spped for sale if anyone is interested. > Jim GammonNJ > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160612704940#ht > _500wt_1182 > Datsun SRL 311 Roadster 2000 engine hitachi solex > 1969 Datsun (Nissan) SRL-311 2000cc 150 hp hi performance factory roadster > engine. This is the hot setup racing engine, the highest performance Roadster > engine ever made. Overhead cam, dual Solex/Hitachi (like Weber) carbs, hi > performance cam, . This was a running engine in a SRL 311 2000 (2 liter) > roadster. > It is missing only the distributor, dipstick and oil filler cap, which I moved > to my rebuilt engine. I did not disassemble the engine in any way. > I removed the engine from a running car 3 years ago, and it has been stored > indoors since then covered. The reason I removed it was that it simply would > not get it over 100 mph and the problem proved to be low compression on the > front two cylinders. I discovered the cause, the cable operating the front > choke was misadjusted and the front choke was always on. All that extra gas > reduced the lubrication on the piston rings and it lost compression. At a > minimum, the engine needs new rings, but it is possible that it should be > bored out and the next size larger pistons installed. I don't know the > condition otherwise, but it didn't make any unusual noises or have any > problems other than a lack of proper horsepower. > I am not sure how many miles are on the engine, the car had 65,000 miles when > I bought > it. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=16061270494 > 0#ht_500wt_1182 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From gboone70 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 1 07:56:43 2011 From: gboone70 at yahoo.com (Gary Boone) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 06:56:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] highspeed backfire In-Reply-To: <3b8d6518.143b57.130e5912ed5.Webtop.47@charter.net> References: <3b8d6518.143b57.130e5912ed5.Webtop.47@charter.net> Message-ID: <1309528603.46883.YahooMailRC@web36304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> If the backfire is out the exhaust, this is a symptom of running too rich during overrun (after lifting off the throttle). If backfiring through the carbs, it's too lean. ________________________________ From: Tim To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Sent: Fri, July 1, 2011 5:59:15 AM Subject: [Roadsters] highspeed backfire Several weeks ago my 70 1600 (w GB/ dizzy) started to backfire, once very very loud, at highspeed, when I take my foot off the gas pedal. A buddy's 70 1600 (reg dizzy) does the same thing just not as loud as mine does. What could be causing this? Thanks Tim ________________________________________ From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 1 12:54:22 2011 From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 11:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] highspeed backfire In-Reply-To: <3b8d6518.143b57.130e5912ed5.Webtop.47@charter.net> Message-ID: <1309546462.56460.YahooMailClassic@web130215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Running lean? Mike Harper, CAI, AARE Harper Auction & Realty 843-729-4996 "Experience Sells" www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET --- On Fri, 7/1/11, Tim wrote: From: Tim Subject: [Roadsters] highspeed backfire To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Friday, July 1, 2011, 7:59 AM Several weeks ago my 70 1600 (w GB/ dizzy) started to backfire, once very very loud, at highspeed, when I take my foot off the gas pedal. A buddy's 70 1600 (reg dizzy) does the same thing just not as loud as mine does. What could be causing this? Thanks Tim ________________________________________ From Walter.Peterson at cox.net Sat Jul 2 15:37:18 2011 From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter Peterson) Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 14:37:18 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] highspeed backfire In-Reply-To: <1309528603.46883.YahooMailRC@web36304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <3b8d6518.143b57.130e5912ed5.Webtop.47@charter.net> <1309528603.46883.YahooMailRC@web36304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00a101cc3900$37ddfca0$a799f5e0$@cox.net> Also look for a leak in the exhaust system. Check the Header Gasket first. A leak can draw fresh air in, due to the temporary high vacuum in the exhaust system; that then causes secondary ignition in the exhaust pipe. Walt Peterson Santa Barbara CA 67e R20 w/44's 5-spd, LSD & Big Brakes. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Boone Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 6:57 AM To: Tim; datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] highspeed backfire If the backfire is out the exhaust, this is a symptom of running too rich during overrun (after lifting off the throttle). If backfiring through the carbs, it's too lean. ________________________________ From: Tim To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Sent: Fri, July 1, 2011 5:59:15 AM Subject: [Roadsters] highspeed backfire Several weeks ago my 70 1600 (w GB/ dizzy) started to backfire, once very very loud, at highspeed, when I take my foot off the gas pedal. A buddy's 70 1600 (reg dizzy) does the same thing just not as loud as mine does. What could be causing this? Thanks Tim ________________________________________ ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/walter.peterson at cox.n et From fairlady66 at gmail.com Sat Jul 2 16:10:29 2011 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 15:10:29 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Cars and Cockpits - Datsun Day Message-ID: *Special Event!* *Cars and Cockpits - Datsun Day* ** *Attention:** All Datsun Roadster, Z owners, 510, and Datsun Truck ownersyou are invited to the following special eventthe first 50 respondents will enjoy special parking at this event. Please click the picture advertisement below and register your attendance and the car you will bring. It is important to be sure to enter your name and email address to secure your spot. * ** *The registration deadline is July 29th, 2011 at 12:00am. But dont wait; an opportunity like this might fill up fast!* ** This is going to be a fun day with a couple of raffles taking place in the parking lot before we leave the Lyon Air Museun and head to Crevier Classic Show Room. If you do not register for the exhibit parking you will have to park in the general parking area. We would love to have the Roadsters out nubmer the other registered Datsuns. Even if you can't bring a Datsun, come join us for a great time! Log onto the SoCalROC website and register! www.socalroc.net or www.socalroc.org *NO REGISTRATION FEE!!! * Lyon Air Museum, a premier Southern California showcase for vintage military aircraft and automobiles. August 7, 2011 is Cars & Cockpits" Datsun Day, this event is limited to 50 exhibit Datsuns. This event takes place from 9:30 a.m. to 11:30 at the Lyon Air Museum facility, located near John Wayne Airport in Orange County. The Museum address is: *19300 Ike Jones Rd, Santa Ana, CA 92707*. Datsun owners can compare their historic Datsuns with the Museums own stable of vintage luxury vehicles, including a 1939 Mercedes-Benz Model G4 Offener Touring Wagon (used by the Fuhrer himself), a 1947 V-12 Lincoln Continental Cabriolet, and a 1941 Cadillac Series 62 convertible sedan (originally owned by New York socialite Princess Diane Eristavi). *The normal fee for enterance to the Air Museum is a $12 donation, this has been discounted for all Registered participant to $9 for this event. This is the only required cost besides your lunch.* After this we will head over to the wonderful just down the street from Lyon Air Museum, and then one of two things will happen; we will head over to the Acapulco Mexican Restaurant for lunch, or something really special which is being worked on will happen (we cant share it with you yet because if it happens it will be a nice surprise). A* BRE 3 Champions T-Shirt* signed by Peter Brock will be raffled off to registered participants at 11:30 where the cars are parked - Raffle tickets will be $2.00 each (Winner will receive gift certificate to order from to guarantee correct size t-shirt) -- If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Datsun, then you are lucky enough. From tputland at charter.net Mon Jul 4 09:51:26 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 11:51:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] highspeed backfire--we may have a winner Message-ID: <768d4288.125801.130f5d8d43e.Webtop.48@charter.net> I was aware of a minor exhaust leak at the manifold that, in the past few weeks (since the backfiring started), has gotten louder. I guess the increased leak has caused this issue. Since the backfires have blown a hole in the rusted seam of my muffler, I guess I get to do the entire exhaust system now. Thanks Walt! tim On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Walter Peterson wrote: > Also look for a leak in the exhaust system. Check the Header Gasket > first. > A leak can draw fresh air in, due to the temporary high vacuum in the > exhaust system; that then causes secondary ignition in the exhaust > pipe. > > Walt Peterson > Santa Barbara CA > 67e R20 w/44's > 5-spd, LSD & Big Brakes. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary > Boone > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 6:57 AM > To: Tim; datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] highspeed backfire > > If the backfire is out the exhaust, this is a symptom of running too > rich > during overrun (after lifting off the throttle). If backfiring > through the > carbs, it's too lean. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Tim > > To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net > > Sent: Fri, July 1, 2011 5:59:15 AM > Subject: > [Roadsters] highspeed backfire > > Several weeks ago my 70 1600 (w GB/ dizzy) started to backfire, once > very > very loud, at highspeed, when I take my foot off the gas pedal. A > buddy's 70 > 1600 (reg dizzy) does the same thing just not as loud as mine does. > > What could be causing this? > > Thanks > > Tim > ________________________________________ > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/walter.peterson at cox.n > et > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From tputland at charter.net Mon Jul 4 10:03:48 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 12:03:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] header question Message-ID: <59ef581b.125a0f.130f5e428af.Webtop.48@charter.net> If I switch to a header on my 1600, do I need to change the starter to the shorter gear reduction style? Thanks Tim From datsunpartsdotcom at yahoo.com Tue Jul 5 14:30:46 2011 From: datsunpartsdotcom at yahoo.com (datsun parts.com) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 13:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] header question In-Reply-To: <59ef581b.125a0f.130f5e428af.Webtop.48@charter.net> Message-ID: <1309897846.9381.YahooMailClassic@web36505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This is explained here: www.datsunparts.com/1005 From geegc at aol.com Tue Jul 5 15:58:47 2011 From: geegc at aol.com (Geegc) Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2011 17:58:47 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] mystery loss of clutch fluid Message-ID: <8CE0975D9757E07-C60-7D7F8@webmail-d066.sysops.aol.com> I am suffering a mystery loss of clutch fluid, it falls low, the clutch stops working, I add new fluid, it pumps up and the clutch works, then a few days later it is gone and there doesn't seem to be a puddle of fluid on the garage floor. Anyone on the list been coming to my garage and stealing the fluid? Or any other suggestions? Gary C 1966 1600 From gogineni.alvin at gene.com Tue Jul 5 16:22:11 2011 From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 15:22:11 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] mystery loss of clutch fluid In-Reply-To: <8CE0975D9757E07-C60-7D7F8@webmail-d066.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CE0975D9757E07-C60-7D7F8@webmail-d066.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <84383D48-B13D-4D66-8B4D-F9289F3465B2@gene.com> anything leaking onto the footwell? check the piston in back of firewall side On Jul 5, 2011, at 2:58 PM, Geegc wrote: > I am suffering a mystery loss of clutch fluid, it falls low, the > clutch stops > working, I add new fluid, it pumps up and the clutch works, then a > few days > later it is gone and there doesn't seem to be a puddle of fluid on > the garage > floor. > > Anyone on the list been coming to my garage and stealing the fluid? > Or any > other suggestions? > > Gary C > 1966 1600 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gogineni.alvin at gene.com From mark at dealermats.com Tue Jul 5 16:26:16 2011 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 18:26:16 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] mystery loss of clutch fluid In-Reply-To: <8CE0975D9757E07-C60-7D7F8@webmail-d066.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CE0975D9757E07-C60-7D7F8@webmail-d066.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <60676A15-531A-4ECD-8131-02AE85DC0648@dealermats.com> See if it is coming out on the inside of the car from the master cylinder. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 5, 2011, at 5:58 PM, Geegc wrote: > I am suffering a mystery loss of clutch fluid, it falls low, the clutch stops > working, I add new fluid, it pumps up and the clutch works, then a few days > later it is gone and there doesn't seem to be a puddle of fluid on the garage > floor. > > Anyone on the list been coming to my garage and stealing the fluid? Or any > other suggestions? > > Gary C > 1966 1600 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/mark at dealermats.com From yenko_stinger65 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 5 17:04:20 2011 From: yenko_stinger65 at yahoo.com (shepard richard) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 16:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] mystery loss of clutch fluid In-Reply-To: <60676A15-531A-4ECD-8131-02AE85DC0648@dealermats.com> Message-ID: <1309907060.60827.YahooMailClassic@web162018.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Check the slave cylinder for leaks or the hose down to it. mine did the same think, replaced the cylinder and now is great rich 2 -68's 1- 1600 1- KA > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 5, 2011, at 5:58 PM, Geegc > wrote: > > > I am suffering a mystery loss of clutch fluid, it > falls low, the clutch > stops > > working, I add new fluid, it pumps up and the clutch > works, then a few days > > later it is gone and there doesn't seem to be a puddle > of fluid on the > garage > > floor. > > > > Anyone on the list been coming to my garage and > stealing the fluid? Or any > > other suggestions? > > > > Gary C > > 1966 1600 > > ________________________________________ From sumton at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 5 17:05:25 2011 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 18:05:25 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 roadster switches In-Reply-To: <8CE0975D9757E07-C60-7D7F8@webmail-d066.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CE0975D9757E07-C60-7D7F8@webmail-d066.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <0DF394D3F1744E0DB256CD34645079B0@ranteer.local> there are four switches on these cars (light switch, fog light switch, windshield wiper switch, and heater switch) the fog light switch appears to be a simple single throw, single pole switch. no biggie to test. the other ones, however, have multiple poles and multiple throws. I have a very nice diagram (thank you slowboy) which helps. I'd like to test the switches before I move on to testing the various items they go to. can anyone tell me how to test any of them? the diagram has the poles labeled, and where they go, but I'm at a loss as to where to connect power, etc, so I can use my multimeter to ascertain if the switches are working. (I received the car in kit form, and have purchased additional switches over time, so I don't have the luxury of knowing for sure what was working) From wilhouse at charter.net Tue Jul 5 17:37:25 2011 From: wilhouse at charter.net (Ken & Tammy Williams) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 18:37:25 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Early '67 tachometer needed Message-ID: <8C30D4A31E8C4FDC83C2D7DD9948F231@wilhouse> Hey listers, Anybody have a working tach laying around collecting dust? Wanna get rid of it in exchange for $$ ?? I was gonna offer $$ or a kidney, but I'm fairly fond of my current kidney situation. Ken '67 1600 Janesville, WI From rabush2000 at hotmail.com Tue Jul 5 18:56:44 2011 From: rabush2000 at hotmail.com (richard bush) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 00:56:44 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] 67 Roadster In-Reply-To: <8C30D4A31E8C4FDC83C2D7DD9948F231@wilhouse> References: <8C30D4A31E8C4FDC83C2D7DD9948F231@wilhouse> Message-ID: My car has been slow in starting. It won't start via the battery but the lights do work so I don't think it's a bad battery. I am able to start the car by jumping it down a hill but the last time i did this, it overheated, a bunch of green stuff came out of the radiator and now it won't do anything. No engine turn over at all and frankly, I am afraid to try and jump it again. Admittedly, it's been hot here - over 100 most days but I have driven it in the heat before. I am clueless about what to do as are the mechanics I have spoken to. Any input would be most appreciated and please, speak to me as if I were a 8 year old. Finally, I will have to fill the radiator. What do I use to fill it? As always, thanks and best regards, Rick R A Bush, 4806 Eck Lane, Austin Texas 78734/cell: 512 574 8081 From graemes at internode.on.net Tue Jul 5 20:03:39 2011 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling) Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 11:33:39 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 roadster switches In-Reply-To: <0DF394D3F1744E0DB256CD34645079B0@ranteer.local> References: <8CE0975D9757E07-C60-7D7F8@webmail-d066.sysops.aol.com> <0DF394D3F1744E0DB256CD34645079B0@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <4E13C27B.6080601@internode.on.net> On 6/07/2011 8:35 AM, oliver wrote: > there are four switches on these cars (light switch, fog light switch, > windshield wiper switch, and heater switch) > > the fog light switch appears to be a simple single throw, single pole > switch. no biggie to test. > > the other ones, however, have multiple poles and multiple throws. > > I have a very nice diagram (thank you slowboy) which helps. > > I'd like to test the switches before I move on to testing the various > items they go to. > > can anyone tell me how to test any of them? the diagram has the poles > labeled, and where they go, but I'm at a loss as to where to connect > power, etc, so I can use my multimeter to ascertain if the switches > are working. > > (I received the car in kit form, and have purchased additional > switches over time, so I don't have the luxury of knowing for sure > what was working) ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on.net > > I'm in the process of drawing up some schematics which include the pinouts of the Niles switches with the internal switching matrix for each switch position. This info. is based on the wiring for a 1965 SP310 but may be applicable for other years. Head light switch: - Position OFF. 1. pin 7,6 and 4 connected. 2. pin 7, 6 and 2 connected. Fog light switch: - Position OFF. ON. pin 6 and 7 connected Windshield wiper switch: - Position OFF. pin 2 and 7 connected ON. pin 2 and 6 connected Heater switch: - Position OFF. 1. pin 4 and 6 connected 2. pin 2 and 6 connected All switches are OFF when the toggle points DOWN and pin 1 is at the TOP. Attached is the rear view pinouts of the NILES type switch. Note, not all pins are fitted in all switches. Use a multi meter on resistance test to check continuity. -- Regards, Graeme Suckling 1965 SP310 Datsun Sports 1971 P510 Datsun 1600 1972 PL510 Datsun 1600 LHD 1973 HS30 Datsun 240Z 1984 B120 Datsun 1200 utility 1993 ECR33 Skyline GTS25t http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of NILES switch terminal pinouts.jpg] From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Jul 5 20:20:48 2011 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 02:20:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] 67 Roadster In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <890279573.251044.1309918848172.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Don't know what the problem is, but you can fill the radiator with just water temporarily until you determine the problem. That's just for short-term. You'll want to drain and refill w/ a 50/50 mix of water/antifreeze. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "richard bush" To: wilhouse at charter.net, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2011 5:56:44 PM Subject: [Roadsters] 67 Roadster My car has been slow in starting. It won't start via the battery but the lights do work so I don't think it's a bad battery. I am able to start the car by jumping it down a hill but the last time i did this, it overheated, a bunch of green stuff came out of the radiator and now it won't do anything. No engine turn over at all and frankly, I am afraid to try and jump it again. Admittedly, it's been hot here - over 100 most days but I have driven it in the heat before. I am clueless about what to do as are the mechanics I have spoken to. Any input would be most appreciated and please, speak to me as if I were a 8 year old. Finally, I will have to fill the radiator. What do I use to fill it? As always, thanks and best regards, Rick R A Bush, 4806 Eck Lane, Austin Texas 78734/cell: 512 574 8081 ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net From wilhouse at charter.net Tue Jul 5 20:38:56 2011 From: wilhouse at charter.net (Ken & Tammy Williams) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 21:38:56 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Early '67 tachometer needed References: <8C30D4A31E8C4FDC83C2D7DD9948F231@wilhouse> Message-ID: Thanks for the heads up Gary. I just bought the tach that was on E-Bay. Must be living right lately. Ken Williams '67 1600 Janesville, WI From graemes at internode.on.net Tue Jul 5 20:42:56 2011 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling) Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 12:12:56 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 roadster switches In-Reply-To: <4E13C27B.6080601@internode.on.net> References: <8CE0975D9757E07-C60-7D7F8@webmail-d066.sysops.aol.com> <0DF394D3F1744E0DB256CD34645079B0@ranteer.local> <4E13C27B.6080601@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <4E13CBB0.3050003@internode.on.net> On 6/07/2011 11:33 AM, Graeme Suckling wrote: > On 6/07/2011 8:35 AM, oliver wrote: >> there are four switches on these cars (light switch, fog light switch, >> windshield wiper switch, and heater switch) >> >> the fog light switch appears to be a simple single throw, single pole >> switch. no biggie to test. >> >> the other ones, however, have multiple poles and multiple throws. >> >> I have a very nice diagram (thank you slowboy) which helps. >> >> I'd like to test the switches before I move on to testing the various >> items they go to. >> >> can anyone tell me how to test any of them? the diagram has the poles >> labeled, and where they go, but I'm at a loss as to where to connect >> power, etc, so I can use my multimeter to ascertain if the switches >> are working. >> >> (I received the car in kit form, and have purchased additional >> switches over time, so I don't have the luxury of knowing for sure >> what was working) ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on.net >> >> > I'm in the process of drawing up some schematics which include the > pinouts of the Niles switches with the internal switching matrix for > each switch position. > This info. is based on the wiring for a 1965 SP310 but may be applicable > for other years. > > Head light switch: - > Position > OFF. > 1. pin 7,6 and 4 connected. > 2. pin 7, 6 and 2 connected. > > Fog light switch: - > Position > OFF. > ON. pin 6 and 7 connected > > Windshield wiper switch: - > Position > OFF. pin 2 and 7 connected > ON. pin 2 and 6 connected > > Heater switch: - > Position > OFF. > 1. pin 4 and 6 connected > 2. pin 2 and 6 connected > > All switches are OFF when the toggle points DOWN and pin 1 is at the TOP. > Attached is the rear view pinouts of the NILES type switch. > Note, not all pins are fitted in all switches. > Use a multi meter on resistance test to check continuity. > For the 2 speed wipers the following applies: - Position OFF. pin 2, 6 and 7 connected 1. pin 4, 6 and 7 connected 2. pin 4 and 7 connected ;-) -- Regards, Graeme Suckling 1965 SP310 Datsun Sports 1971 P510 Datsun 1600 1972 PL510 Datsun 1600 LHD 1973 HS30 Datsun 240Z 1984 B120 Datsun 1200 utility 1993 ECR33 Skyline GTS25t http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia. From escanlon at wa-net.com Tue Jul 5 21:14:25 2011 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 20:14:25 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: early 67 roadster switches Message-ID: <679E314A195E48F7A328D64F870CD2C8@HPW> Graeme's nailed it with the exception of the Windshield Wiper Switch. The 67 had a HI-LO Wiper with a Park feature. I'm researching that and hope to put up an update. E >> > I'm in the process of drawing up some schematics which include the > pinouts of the Niles switches with the internal switching matrix for > each switch position. > This info. is based on the wiring for a 1965 SP310 but may be applicable > for other years. > > Head light switch: - > Position > OFF. > 1. pin 7,6 and 4 connected. > 2. pin 7, 6 and 2 connected. > > Fog light switch: - > Position > OFF. > ON. pin 6 and 7 connected > > Windshield wiper switch: - > Position > OFF. pin 2 and 7 connected > ON. pin 2 and 6 connected > > Heater switch: - > Position > OFF. > 1. pin 4 and 6 connected > 2. pin 2 and 6 connected > > All switches are OFF when the toggle points DOWN and pin 1 is at the TOP. > Attached is the rear view pinouts of the NILES type switch. > Note, not all pins are fitted in all switches. > Use a multi meter on resistance test to check continuity. > > -- > Regards, > Graeme Suckling > 1965 SP310 Datsun Sports > 1971 P510 Datsun 1600 > 1972 PL510 Datsun 1600 LHD > 1973 HS30 Datsun 240Z > 1984 B120 Datsun 1200 utility > 1993 ECR33 Skyline GTS25t > Adelaide > South Australia. From aultgc at att.net Tue Jul 5 22:35:44 2011 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 23:35:44 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Speedometer Calibration Message-ID: <6280B06631C243F595B5DD151D4EDEE4@gaxp1> Anyone out there who has had good experience with re-calibration of early roadster (1967) speedometers? Gary From sandhoff at csus.edu Wed Jul 6 01:38:44 2011 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 00:38:44 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 67 Roadster In-Reply-To: References: <8C30D4A31E8C4FDC83C2D7DD9948F231@wilhouse> Message-ID: On Wed, 6 Jul 2011, richard bush wrote: > My car has been slow in starting. Slow as it turns over slowly, or slow as in it takes a lot of cranking befoire it catches? > It won't start via the battery... I am able to start the car by jumping > it down a hill... As in push starting? Get it rolling and pop the clutch? > ...the last time i did this, it overheated, a bunch of green stuff > came out of the radiator and now it won't do anything. No engine turn > over at all... Ouch. My guess: Blown head gasket (leaking cylinder compression pressurized the cooling system and blew the coolant out) and hydrostatic lock (cylinders filling with coolant). Remove the spark plugs and try turning the engine over by hand (with the plugs out you should be able to do this). I bet you squirt water out the spark plug holes! Trying to start it again may result in lots of bad things happening, including bending a connecting rod. Also, the oil will be a mix of oil and coolant; pump that thru the engine and... well, you don't want to do that. Pull the dipstick. If you have anything more than clean oil, the head gasket let go (grey gooey sludge, beads of water, foam) and you've got some work ahead of you... -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From wilhouse at charter.net Wed Jul 6 05:42:25 2011 From: wilhouse at charter.net (Ken & Tammy Williams) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 06:42:25 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Madison WI to Potosi Brewery with the 2-seaters Message-ID: <5459FF0300764BA495320B935CFB25C1@wilhouse> I posted this on 311s, but thought Id re-post here. If anybody out there is nearby, on Sunday July 10th the Dairyland Datsun's are joining forces with the Madison 2-Seater Club for a drive from the Madison area down to the Potosi Brewery in Potosi WI. FYI, Potosi is just a few miles from Dubuque, IA. We have a fun route from the Middleton area, through Mineral Point, to Potosi. The brewery is host to the National Brewery Museum and a ton of other local brewing history. Care to join us?? Leaving Middleton at 9:45 am. Mobil Station on University Ave, just west of the beltline on Pleasant View Rd. Leaving Mineral Point at 11. BP station on Hwy 39 Ken Williams '67 1600 Janesville, WI From tomuo at comcast.net Wed Jul 6 08:48:02 2011 From: tomuo at comcast.net (Tom Duffy) Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 07:48:02 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 67 Roadster In-Reply-To: References: <8C30D4A31E8C4FDC83C2D7DD9948F231@wilhouse> Message-ID: <4E1475A2.3080901@comcast.net> On 2011/07/06 0:38, John F Sandhoff wrote: > On Wed, 6 Jul 2011, richard bush wrote: > >> My car has been slow in starting. > > Ouch. > My guess: Blown head gasket (leaking cylinder compression pressurized > the cooling system and blew the coolant out) and hydrostatic lock > (cylinders filling with coolant). Ditto. Sorry to say I thought the same thing. Tom. From datsunspl at hotmail.com Wed Jul 6 12:15:17 2011 From: datsunspl at hotmail.com (Paul Reed) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 11:15:17 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Mystery Numbers Message-ID: Does anyone on the list know what the mystery numbers stamped into the driver's side corner support plate in the upper forward end of the engine compartment (near the hood support rod) relate to? Is there a look-up table available to decode the numbers? - Paul '68 1600 Prepping For Sale '69 2000 Crashed (may restore) '68 1600 Parting '68 2000 Part or Restore [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] From aultgc at att.net Wed Jul 6 20:03:54 2011 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 21:03:54 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Madison WI to Potosi Brewery with the 2-seaters References: <5459FF0300764BA495320B935CFB25C1@wilhouse> Message-ID: Ken, Thanks for the invite, but we have a god friend's daughter's graduation party to attend. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken & Tammy Williams" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 6:42 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Madison WI to Potosi Brewery with the 2-seaters > I posted this on 311s, but thought Id re-post here. > > If anybody out there is nearby, on Sunday July 10th the Dairyland > Datsun's are joining forces with the Madison 2-Seater Club for a drive > from > the Madison area down to the Potosi Brewery in Potosi WI. FYI, Potosi is > just > a few miles from Dubuque, IA. We have a fun route from the Middleton area, > through Mineral Point, to Potosi. The brewery is host to the National > Brewery > Museum and a ton of other local brewing history. Care to join us?? > Leaving Middleton at 9:45 am. Mobil Station on University Ave, just > west > of the beltline on Pleasant View Rd. > Leaving Mineral Point at 11. BP station on Hwy 39 > > Ken Williams > '67 1600 > Janesville, WI > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From chalsted at comcast.net Fri Jul 8 14:09:22 2011 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 20:09:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] OT- Datsun Z car bodied go-kart Message-ID: <1394279130.249062.1310155762985.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I've run across someone in my area who has a 3.5hp go kart with a Z car body...red car on black frame. fibreglass body, not plastic- kid sits in a hole in the roof with a seat, probably around 5' long. has decals for the headlights and grille, etc. evidently there's one in the Datsun Heritage Museum although I haven't seen a pic- anyone have any idea what one of these is worth? I figure there can't be a lot of them around...would be a cool piece to bring up to the Nissan-Datsun meet at the Glen in September. don't want to spend too much for it if I'm considering buying it and figure maybe someone on the list here has an idea of the value. I haven't seen it in person yet. Thanks in advance, Craig From wilhouse at charter.net Fri Jul 8 20:22:08 2011 From: wilhouse at charter.net (Ken & Tammy Williams) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 21:22:08 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] suspension References: <412043518-1309235300-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1668177381-@b14.c25.bise6.blackberry><1309274684.32794.YahooMailNeo@web121417.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sorry, I realize I am coming into this conversation late, but it brought up a couple of questions. Is there a big difference in ride feel between the gas-a-just and the GR-2's? Jim, was that the reason for the different shocks front and rear? Ken Williams '67 1600 Janesville, WI From svedise at hotmail.com Fri Jul 8 23:31:23 2011 From: svedise at hotmail.com (Jim Svedise) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 22:31:23 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] suspension In-Reply-To: References: <412043518-1309235300-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1668177381-@b14.c25.bise6.blackberry><1309274684.32794.YahooMailNeo@web121417.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes the gas-a-just are stiffer and tend to rebound a little faster. Where the GR-2 make a great rear shock and pretty good front. I am a more spirited driver. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Ken & Tammy Williams Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:22 PM To: Datsun Club Subject: Re: [Roadsters] suspension Sorry, I realize I am coming into this conversation late, but it brought up a couple of questions. Is there a big difference in ride feel between the gas-a-just and the GR-2's? Jim, was that the reason for the different shocks front and rear? Ken Williams '67 1600 Janesville, WI From chalsted at comcast.net Sat Jul 9 14:52:42 2011 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 20:52:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Heritage Museum? 280ZX go-kart Message-ID: <1395043875.269194.1310244762448.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> when I was researching the 280ZX promotional go-karts I came across one in the Datsun Heritage Museum that they were looking for photos of an original one so as to be able to copy the graphics and restore the kart- I bought the one out here, has all it's original decals, was going to send pix but can't find any info on how to contact them- at least not with a working number or e-mail address. are they still in business? would be a cryin' shame if they are not. kart is still in the back of the pickup but I put 3 pix up in a webshots album, if you want to see it go to http://webshots.com/user/672000 cool piece :-) I'm going to see if I can climb into it and have someone take a pic...probably easier than trying to get back out of it although undoubtedly there will be pix of that effort as well... Craig From utahltps at yahoo.com Sat Jul 9 16:29:19 2011 From: utahltps at yahoo.com (Paul Strahl) Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 15:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] exhaust manifold leak Message-ID: <1310250559.22900.YahooMailRC@web112714.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hey I have owned my 1970 1600 for almost a year now. No known modifications. It has been running great until just now. It became really loud. I had a muffler shop look at it a replace a pipe just before the muffler. It sounds like normal now. The muffler shop guy called to my attention that the exhast mainfold had a leak and he would have to take it apart to see if it was a gasket, crack, warping or what was going on. So I have a couple questions for the guys who run these cars and know about them. 1) How can one tell the that the manifold leaks and where it is leaking? 2) Is this a common problem 3) What are common solutions? Thanks in advance. Paul S From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Sat Jul 9 18:57:59 2011 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (cour.jpeg at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 00:57:59 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] exhaust manifold leak In-Reply-To: <1310250559.22900.YahooMailRC@web112714.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1310250559.22900.YahooMailRC@web112714.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <496920434-1310259480-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1194658406-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> Hi Paul, from another Paul w- a 1600. There is a typical failure near the collection point, at the first clamp to the pipe under the seat. Sometimes the manifold will crack there because of too much movement caused by a missing or failed scissors clamp where the first pipe passes through the frame. You can see it by getting underneath. Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: Paul Strahl Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 15:29:19 To: Subject: [Roadsters] exhaust manifold leak Hey I have owned my 1970 1600 for almost a year now. No known modifications. It has been running great until just now. It became really loud. I had a muffler shop look at it a replace a pipe just before the muffler. It sounds like normal now. The muffler shop guy called to my attention that the exhast mainfold had a leak and he would have to take it apart to see if it was a gasket, crack, warping or what was going on. So I have a couple questions for the guys who run these cars and know about them. 1) How can one tell the that the manifold leaks and where it is leaking? 2) Is this a common problem 3) What are common solutions? Thanks in advance. Paul S ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com From sumton at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 9 19:32:40 2011 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 20:32:40 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] aftermarket ammeter in early 67 roadster In-Reply-To: References: <8C30D4A31E8C4FDC83C2D7DD9948F231@wilhouse> Message-ID: <30277A58986D4201A9FC084112F56B93@ranteer.local> I'm connecting an aftermarket ammeter in the car from the alternator back to a power pole. it has a plus sign on one terminal. which side should I plug into the plus terminal? From graemes at internode.on.net Sun Jul 10 00:02:51 2011 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 15:32:51 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] aftermarket ammeter in early 67 roadster In-Reply-To: <30277A58986D4201A9FC084112F56B93@ranteer.local> References: <8C30D4A31E8C4FDC83C2D7DD9948F231@wilhouse> <30277A58986D4201A9FC084112F56B93@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <4E19408B.1040406@internode.on.net> On 10/07/2011 11:02 AM, oliver wrote: > I'm connecting an aftermarket ammeter in the car from the alternator > back to a power pole. it has a plus sign on one terminal. > > which side should I plug into the plus terminal? > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on.net > > The gauge + goes to the POSITIVE/RED terminal. Bear in mind that if connected in reverse, a centre zero gauge like the Ammeter, will simply read backwards, i.e. it will show a discharge when it should be showing a charge. DO NOT connect to Ammeter before the starter motor, it won't handle the current drawn by that. The Ammeter when connected properly just displays the current drawn from the battery [DISCHARGE] or fed into the battery [CHARGE]. -- Regards, Graeme Suckling 1965 SP310 Datsun Sports 1971 P510 Datsun 1600 1972 PL510 Datsun 1600 LHD 1973 HS30 Datsun 240Z 1984 B120 Datsun 1200 utility 1993 ECR33 Skyline GTS25t http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia. From tputland at charter.net Sun Jul 10 06:36:19 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 08:36:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] exhaust manifold leak Message-ID: Don't know if this will help.... My 70 1600 has an exhaust leak at the manifold as well. It sounds like a bad valve but the mechanic (who does the work I am not yet ready to do) told me that clicking sound was actually a leak at the manifold. This could be at the gasket or a cracked manifold. As far as I know (and I am far far far from an expert) the only way to determine for sure is to dismantle the intake and exhaust manifolds. Tim On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Paul Strahl wrote: > Hey I have owned my 1970 1600 for almost a year now. No known > modifications. > It has been running great until just now. It became really loud. I had > a > muffler shop look at it a replace a pipe just before the muffler. It > sounds > like normal now. The muffler shop guy called to my attention that the > exhast mainfold had a leak and he would have to take it apart to see > if it > was a gasket, crack, warping or what was going on. So I have a couple > questions for the guys who run these cars and know about them. 1) How > can one > tell the that the manifold leaks and where it is leaking? 2) Is this a > common > problem 3) What are common solutions? > > Thanks in advance. > Paul S > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From tputland at charter.net Sun Jul 10 08:05:48 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 10:05:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] High Speed Hesitation--fixed!(?) Message-ID: <7b7ea473.196b1a.131145e482c.Webtop.47@charter.net> A while back (last summer?) I posted about a high speed (over 75-80) hesitation that I was getting. Long story short, I fixed this (I think) with a new cap and rotor. The old rotor was pretty lose on the shaft and the cap had significant grooves worn in the contact points. New cap and rotor, problem seems to be gone. Today may be the final test of that. Videos and pics to follow hopefully. PEACE :-) Tim From chalsted at comcast.net Sun Jul 10 10:39:23 2011 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:39:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] NOS U20 upper and lower chain tensioners- availability and price? Message-ID: <2078301613.281189.1310315963605.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> does anyone know if these tensioners are offered anywhere NOS by themselves, not as part of a full timing package? what's the going price if available? thanks, Craig From gogineni.alvin at gene.com Mon Jul 11 09:15:43 2011 From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:15:43 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] shasta pictures? Message-ID: <683D3018-26B2-4CDD-967C-45ECC87C486A@gene.com> does anyone have nay posted yet? From chalsted at comcast.net Tue Jul 12 09:04:01 2011 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:04:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] OT- 280ZX factory promo go-kart In-Reply-To: <106383049.338588.1310483025280.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1951783750.338605.1310483041614.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I put up a number of photos of the go-kart on my webshots page, if interested in seeing them go to http://webshots.com/user/672000 have also listed it for sale on Washington DC Craigslist but wouldn't break my heart to still have it in september to bring up to the Glen :-) was bummed to find that the Datsun Heritage Museum has already closed it's doors :-( they had a yellow one they wanted to restore and were looking for photos of the original decals , thought I was going to be able to help them out... Craig From matt at vander-bend.com Tue Jul 12 09:58:18 2011 From: matt at vander-bend.com (Matt Jacquet) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 08:58:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster meets its end on Hoarders In-Reply-To: <1951783750.338605.1310483041614.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Of all the cars in the lot did they have to crush the Roadster first? At least he kept the hood ;) http://www.aetv.com/hoarders/video/?bcpid=740859023001&bclid=910141054001&bctid=1030975043001 From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Jul 12 11:18:33 2011 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:18:33 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster meets its end on Hoarders In-Reply-To: References: <1951783750.338605.1310483041614.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <006901cc40b7$bb2eefb0$318ccf10$@net> Another U20 & 5-speed gone forever....sigh.... -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matt Jacquet Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 8:58 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster meets its end on Hoarders Of all the cars in the lot did they have to crush the Roadster first? At least he kept the hood ;) http://www.aetv.com/hoarders/video/?bcpid=740859023001&bclid=910141054001&bc tid=1030975043001 ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From chalsted at comcast.net Tue Jul 12 12:36:15 2011 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:36:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster meets its end on Hoarders In-Reply-To: <006901cc40b7$bb2eefb0$318ccf10$@net> Message-ID: <1193706160.346635.1310495775172.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> probably had a 411 posi in it too ;-) From ericerichoffman at yahoo.com Tue Jul 12 14:21:03 2011 From: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com (Eric Hoffman) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] need a car shipped from madison wi to atlanta ga asap Message-ID: <1310502063.42716.YahooMailClassic@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> anybody have reccommendations? From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Tue Jul 12 14:50:28 2011 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (cour.jpeg at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:50:28 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster meets its end on Hoarders Message-ID: <773066653-1310503828-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-315965386-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> Mikuni (old style) besides ! ------Original Message------ From: chalsted at comcast.net Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net To: Pete Peters Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster meets its end on Hoarders Sent: 12 Jul 2011 14:36 probably had a 411 posi in it too ;-) ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg From ljordan704 at netscape.net Tue Jul 12 16:03:32 2011 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:03:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster meets its end on Hoarders In-Reply-To: <773066653-1310503828-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-315965386-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> References: <773066653-1310503828-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-315965386-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <74F3C97A-63AA-4D42-B63B-FC788ABC246D@netscape.net> Moral: Don't bite off more than you can chew. Linda Sent from my iPod On Jul 12, 2011, at 1:50 PM, cour.jpeg at gmail.com wrote: > Mikuni (old style) besides ! > > ------Original Message------ > From: chalsted at comcast.net > Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > To: Pete Peters > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster meets its end on Hoarders > Sent: 12 Jul 2011 14:36 > > probably had a 411 posi in it too ;-) > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com > > > > > Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From sandhoff at csus.edu Tue Jul 12 18:00:47 2011 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:00:47 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster meets its end on Hoarders In-Reply-To: <74F3C97A-63AA-4D42-B63B-FC788ABC246D@netscape.net> References: <773066653-1310503828-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-315965386-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <4E1C7DBF.14417.1BE065F@localhost> Roy lives on 160 acres in the middle of the friggin' forest, preserving the Redwoods and staying out of everyone's way, and the County fines him $12,500 A DAY?? Hell, they probably want his land to sell to the mills. I didn't have the stomach to watch the whole episode - did the '65 Mustang get crushed as well??? -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From efrisbee at charter.net Tue Jul 12 18:43:15 2011 From: efrisbee at charter.net (Eric Frisbee) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:43:15 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster meets its end on Hoarders In-Reply-To: <006901cc40b7$bb2eefb0$318ccf10$@net> References: <1951783750.338605.1310483041614.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <006901cc40b7$bb2eefb0$318ccf10$@net> Message-ID: <016328A4-F667-45FB-B1FF-2A33D5528438@charter.net> That is so sad... The car really didn't look all that bad to me. Why did the buttheads have to crush the cars? Why not tow the cars to a junkyard to be stripped first, then whatever leftover crushed by a proper crusher? Not so impressed with Hoarders in this case... Sent from my iPhone On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:18 PM, "Pete Peters" wrote: > Another U20 & 5-speed gone forever....sigh.... > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matt Jacquet > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 8:58 AM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster meets its end on Hoarders > > Of all the cars in the lot did they have to crush the Roadster first? At > least he kept the hood ;) > > http://www.aetv.com/hoarders/video/?bcpid=740859023001&bclid=910141054001&bc > tid=1030975043001 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne > t > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/efrisbee at charter.net From brogsme at msn.com Tue Jul 12 19:12:06 2011 From: brogsme at msn.com (BRIAN BROGIE) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 01:12:06 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] need a car shipped from madison wi to atlanta ga asap In-Reply-To: <1310502063.42716.YahooMailClassic@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1310502063.42716.YahooMailClassic@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I used uship to get a deal from CA to NM...you might try that Brian > Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:21:03 -0700 > From: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] need a car shipped from madison wi to atlanta ga asap > > anybody have reccommendations? > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/brogsme at msn.com From brogsme at msn.com Tue Jul 12 20:24:48 2011 From: brogsme at msn.com (BRIAN BROGIE) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 02:24:48 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Wheel colors In-Reply-To: References: <1310502063.42716.YahooMailClassic@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: I am restoring a 1966 1600 and my wife wants Sora Blue, her car. What colors did the wheels come painted? Brian > From: brogsme at msn.com > To: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 01:12:06 +0000 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] need a car shipped from madison wi to atlanta ga asap > > I used uship to get a deal from CA to NM...you might try that > > Brian > > Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:21:03 -0700 > > From: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com > > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Subject: [Roadsters] need a car shipped from madison wi to atlanta ga asap > > > > anybody have reccommendations? > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/brogsme at msn.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/brogsme at msn.com From chalsted at comcast.net Tue Jul 12 20:44:30 2011 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 02:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster meets its end on Hoarders In-Reply-To: <4E1C7DBF.14417.1BE065F@localhost> Message-ID: <935410600.362774.1310525070587.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> appeared to be an AMX too along with a Subaru 360... Craig From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Wed Jul 13 05:56:52 2011 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (cour.jpeg at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:56:52 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Wheel colors In-Reply-To: References: <1310502063.42716.YahooMailClassic@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: <546701713-1310558213-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1211350425-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> At least from '68 onward they came in a fine grain/ aluminum silver. That's based on several NOS spares I've had, with itty bitty skinny tread bias whitewall tires, with original air ! Paul Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: BRIAN BROGIE Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 02:24:48 To: Subject: [Roadsters] Wheel colors I am restoring a 1966 1600 and my wife wants Sora Blue, her car. What colors did the wheels come painted? Brian > From: brogsme at msn.com > To: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 01:12:06 +0000 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] need a car shipped from madison wi to atlanta ga asap > > I used uship to get a deal from CA to NM...you might try that > > Brian > > Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:21:03 -0700 > > From: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com > > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Subject: [Roadsters] need a car shipped from madison wi to atlanta ga asap > > > > anybody have reccommendations? > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/brogsme at msn.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/brogsme at msn.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com From brogsme at msn.com Wed Jul 13 06:54:31 2011 From: brogsme at msn.com (BRIAN BROGIE) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:54:31 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Wheel colors In-Reply-To: <546701713-1310558213-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1211350425-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> References: <1310502063.42716.YahooMailClassic@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, , <546701713-1310558213-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1211350425-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: Thanks for the responses...Silver it is Brian > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wheel colors > To: brogsme at msn.com; datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com > Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:56:52 +0000 > > At least from '68 onward they came in a fine grain/ aluminum silver. That's based on several NOS spares I've had, with itty bitty skinny tread bias whitewall tires, with original air ! > > Paul > > Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg > > -----Original Message----- > From: BRIAN BROGIE > Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 02:24:48 > To: > Subject: [Roadsters] Wheel colors > > I am restoring a 1966 1600 and my wife wants Sora Blue, her car. What colors > did the wheels come painted? > > Brian > > From: brogsme at msn.com > > To: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 01:12:06 +0000 > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] need a car shipped from madison wi to atlanta ga > asap > > > > I used uship to get a deal from CA to NM...you might try that > > > > Brian > > > Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:21:03 -0700 > > > From: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com > > > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > Subject: [Roadsters] need a car shipped from madison wi to atlanta ga > asap > > > > > > anybody have reccommendations? > > > ________________________________________ > > > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/brogsme at msn.com > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/brogsme at msn.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com From 9laser3 at bright.net Wed Jul 13 07:14:18 2011 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 09:14:18 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Wheel colors In-Reply-To: <546701713-1310558213-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1211350425-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> References: <1310502063.42716.YahooMailClassic@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <546701713-1310558213-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1211350425-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <000c01cc415e$c7ab5f10$57021d30$@net> -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of cour.jpeg at gmail.com At least from '68 onward they came in a fine grain/ aluminum silver. That's based on several NOS spares I've had, with itty bitty skinny tread bias whitewall tires, with original air ! Paul ***************************************** Label it "NOS Air" and put it on ebay! $$$$$$ Another Paul Ohio From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 13 08:39:30 2011 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 07:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Wheel colors In-Reply-To: <546701713-1310558213-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1211350425-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <1310567970.53902.YahooMailClassic@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mine are white, but they were re-painted by the PO (it's actually a pretty good look, IMHO) The spare is silver, so I'm guessing that's original. BTW -- the spare in my car is scary to look at. Original bias-ply tire that is so shiny it looks like a glazed donut! I'll be looking for one of those teeny little modern spares when I get my '70 back on the road. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA '70 2000 SRL311-13291 --- On Wed, 7/13/11, cour.jpeg at gmail.com wrote: From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wheel colors To: "BRIAN BROGIE" , datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, July 13, 2011, 4:56 AM At least from '68 onward they came in a fine grain/ aluminum silver. That's based on several NOS spares I've had, with itty bitty skinny tread bias whitewall tires, with original air ! Paul Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: BRIAN BROGIE Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 02:24:48 To: Subject: [Roadsters] Wheel colors I am restoring a 1966 1600 and my wife wants Sora Blue, her car. What colors did the wheels come painted? Brian > From: brogsme at msn.com > To: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 01:12:06 +0000 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] need a car shipped from madison wi to atlanta ga asap > > I used uship to get a deal from CA to NM...you might try that > > Brian > > Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:21:03 -0700 > > From: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com > > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Subject: [Roadsters] need a car shipped from madison wi to atlanta ga asap > > > > anybody have reccommendations? > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/brogsme at msn.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/brogsme at msn.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Jul 13 08:44:20 2011 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 07:44:20 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun diesel engines/trans for sale Message-ID: <003f01cc416b$5a20d8f0$0e628ad0$@net> While you may not want the engine, those transmissions have the starter on the left, and will bolt to the R16 & U20, or you can use just the bell housing to bolt the later 71B & 71C 5-speeds to the R16 & U20. Pete ---------------------------------------------------- http://huntington.craigslist.org/cto/2451387260.html RARE DATSUN DIESELS (MASON COUNTY, WV) ________________________________________ Date: 2011-07-01, 10:25PM EDT Reply to: sale-gyenx-2451387260 at craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?] ________________________________________ RARE 82"S datsun diesles , S.D. 22 - 4 CYC - HAVE 3 . 2- GOOD 5 SPEEP TRANS EMAIL FOR PRICE DONT WANT TO SEE GO TO SCRAP YARD CANT FIND THESE ANYMORE.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have three trucks , two still run asking $300.00 each thanks From tputland at charter.net Wed Jul 13 12:44:39 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:44:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] It was a great day! Message-ID: <5ec1326c.1bfe61.13124d0a764.Webtop.45@charter.net> Some of the Dairyland Datsuns hooked up with the Madison, WI 2-seater group for a run to the Potosi Brewery last Sunday. Here is a nice write up: http://www.rokemneedlearts.com/carsindepth/wordpressblog/?p=2900 and more pictures here: http://thedatsunroadtrippers.shutterfly.com/955 I have some video but it was taken with a crappy digital camera that was hand held and also had no sound so I am still debating whether to post them or not..... Tim Belleville, WI. From wilhouse at charter.net Wed Jul 13 12:46:15 2011 From: wilhouse at charter.net (Ken & Tammy Williams) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:46:15 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Sunday's Madison WI to Potosi Brewery trip in the "news" Message-ID: <454118143EE34F51A2D90D1417237460@wilhouse> Hey Listers, We had a great drive through some amazing roads on Sunday. Plus, we had 6, count em, 6 Datsun roadsters on the trip. Because it is Wisconsin and not sunny California, we will count the 350Z, so that makes 7. Anyway, one of the Miata owners wrote a little bit about the trip. http://www.rokemneedlearts.com/carsindepth/wordpressblog/?p=2900 Enjoy, Ken From 9laser3 at bright.net Wed Jul 13 13:23:53 2011 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:23:53 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] It was a great day! In-Reply-To: <5ec1326c.1bfe61.13124d0a764.Webtop.45@charter.net> References: <5ec1326c.1bfe61.13124d0a764.Webtop.45@charter.net> Message-ID: <009401cc4192$68411c70$38c35550$@net> Great photos! Kind of reminds me of the old OROC days here in Ohio, but that crowd didn't like to drive much. Those photos of roadsters on that winding road are fantastic. One of these years I'd like to hop on Route 23 just south of Columbus, Ohio, and follow it all the way down to Road Atlanta for the Mitty. Might take a few days, but the drive sure would be fun. Should be lots of 'mom & pop' restaurants along the way to sample too. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- ] On Behalf Of Tim Some of the Dairyland Datsuns hooked up with the Madison, WI 2-seater group for a run to the Potosi Brewery last Sunday. Here is a nice write up: http://www.rokemneedlearts.com/carsindepth/wordpressblog/?p=2900 and more pictures here: http://thedatsunroadtrippers.shutterfly.com/955 I have some video but it was taken with a crappy digital camera that was hand held and also had no sound so I am still debating whether to post them or not..... Tim Belleville, WI. From 9laser3 at bright.net Wed Jul 13 13:37:46 2011 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:37:46 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Sunday's Madison WI to Potosi Brewery trip in the "news" In-Reply-To: <454118143EE34F51A2D90D1417237460@wilhouse> References: <454118143EE34F51A2D90D1417237460@wilhouse> Message-ID: <009601cc4194$63f704c0$2be50e40$@net> From the 1500, to the 370Z, they are all Fairlady's! Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ken & Tammy Williams Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 2:46 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Sunday's Madison WI to Potosi Brewery trip in the "news" Hey Listers, We had a great drive through some amazing roads on Sunday. Plus, we had 6, count em, 6 Datsun roadsters on the trip. Because it is Wisconsin and not sunny California, we will count the 350Z, so that makes 7. Anyway, one of the Miata owners wrote a little bit about the trip. http://www.rokemneedlearts.com/carsindepth/wordpressblog/?p=2900 Enjoy, Ken ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net From escanlon at wa-net.com Wed Jul 13 14:02:02 2011 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:02:02 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Wheel colors References: <1310502063.42716.YahooMailClassic@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <546701713-1310558213-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1211350425-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> <000c01cc415e$c7ab5f10$57021d30$@net> Message-ID: <34F1F7CD08AA4FC491D8032AF6FBF4F2@HPW> This is almost TOO funny! Whenever a "purist" in the Z / Roadster community gets a little too uppity over how perfectly "original" state they've RESTORED their car to... I ask if they have Factory Air in their tires. Admittedly, this might be seen as a bit "mean", but let's face it... RESTORED means it's no longer ORIGINAL! If you insist on rubbing people's noses into the "originality" of your car, it better be a true blue survivor and not one that just came out of a body shop after a frame-off restoration. It may have been restored to original specifications, with a lot of research into the appropriate parts for the VIN and date of manufacture, and therefore a beautiful example worthy of praise, BUT.... it's no longer an original survivor, it's a restored vehicle. Sorry, I guess I personally prefer a well-kept SURVIVOR over a restoration. Nothing wrong with a restoration, mine is one, but a survivor... mmmmm. E At least from '68 onward they came in a fine grain/ aluminum silver. That's based on several NOS spares I've had, with itty bitty skinny tread bias whitewall tires, with original air ! Paul ***************************************** Label it "NOS Air" and put it on ebay! $$$$$$ Another Paul Ohio From 9laser3 at bright.net Wed Jul 13 15:21:04 2011 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 17:21:04 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Wheel colors In-Reply-To: <34F1F7CD08AA4FC491D8032AF6FBF4F2@HPW> References: <1310502063.42716.YahooMailClassic@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <546701713-1310558213-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1211350425-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> <000c01cc415e$c7ab5f10$57021d30$@net> <34F1F7CD08AA4FC491D8032AF6FBF4F2@HPW> Message-ID: <00c801cc41a2$c6f90e20$54eb2a60$@net> Hey, mine is all original, ... if you don't count the KA24, carpet and seats, paint, and well, maybe a few other things! (:-) I couldn't find any NOS water for the cooling system so I used some Mount Shasta Spring water I found at the local Dollar store. And the air in the tires came from a Chinese compressor. Does that count. Paul -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of E Scanlon Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:02 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wheel colors This is almost TOO funny! Whenever a "purist" in the Z / Roadster community gets a little too uppity over how perfectly "original" state they've RESTORED their car to... I ask if they have Factory Air in their tires. Admittedly, this might be seen as a bit "mean", but let's face it... RESTORED means it's no longer ORIGINAL! If you insist on rubbing people's noses into the "originality" of your car, it better be a true blue survivor and not one that just came out of a body shop after a frame-off restoration. It may have been restored to original specifications, with a lot of research into the appropriate parts for the VIN and date of manufacture, and therefore a beautiful example worthy of praise, BUT.... it's no longer an original survivor, it's a restored vehicle. Sorry, I guess I personally prefer a well-kept SURVIVOR over a restoration. Nothing wrong with a restoration, mine is one, but a survivor... mmmmm. E At least from '68 onward they came in a fine grain/ aluminum silver. That's based on several NOS spares I've had, with itty bitty skinny tread bias whitewall tires, with original air ! Paul ***************************************** Label it "NOS Air" and put it on ebay! $$$$$$ Another Paul Ohio ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Wed Jul 13 16:55:05 2011 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (cour.jpeg at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:55:05 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Wheel colors In-Reply-To: <00c801cc41a2$c6f90e20$54eb2a60$@net> References: <1310502063.42716.YahooMailClassic@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <546701713-1310558213-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1211350425-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry><000c01cc415e$c7ab5f10$57021d30$@net><34F1F7CD08AA4FC491D8032AF6FBF4F2@HPW><00c801cc41a2$c6f90e20$54eb2a60$@net> Message-ID: <1773090861-1310597706-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-662811025-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> Chinese air? Man, the only lead I want in my tires are the balance weights. You could have found the NOS air on ebay. I took some advice and posted a small canister's worth retrieved from the innards of a Toyo 5.20-14 whitewall bias-ply, never been flat, never broken off the rim, yeha ! Time remaining: 20m 13s 15 bids. 070622987 ****cgk $520.27 ***alvin $520.00 Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net> Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 17:21:04 To: 'E Scanlon'; Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wheel colors Hey, mine is all original, ... if you don't count the KA24, carpet and seats, paint, and well, maybe a few other things! (:-) I couldn't find any NOS water for the cooling system so I used some Mount Shasta Spring water I found at the local Dollar store. And the air in the tires came from a Chinese compressor. Does that count. Paul -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of E Scanlon Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:02 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wheel colors This is almost TOO funny! Whenever a "purist" in the Z / Roadster community gets a little too uppity over how perfectly "original" state they've RESTORED their car to... I ask if they have Factory Air in their tires. Admittedly, this might be seen as a bit "mean", but let's face it... RESTORED means it's no longer ORIGINAL! If you insist on rubbing people's noses into the "originality" of your car, it better be a true blue survivor and not one that just came out of a body shop after a frame-off restoration. It may have been restored to original specifications, with a lot of research into the appropriate parts for the VIN and date of manufacture, and therefore a beautiful example worthy of praise, BUT.... it's no longer an original survivor, it's a restored vehicle. Sorry, I guess I personally prefer a well-kept SURVIVOR over a restoration. Nothing wrong with a restoration, mine is one, but a survivor... mmmmm. E At least from '68 onward they came in a fine grain/ aluminum silver. That's based on several NOS spares I've had, with itty bitty skinny tread bias whitewall tires, with original air ! Paul ***************************************** Label it "NOS Air" and put it on ebay! $$$$$$ Another Paul Ohio ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com From 9laser3 at bright.net Wed Jul 13 17:26:38 2011 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 19:26:38 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Wheel colors In-Reply-To: <1773090861-1310597706-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-662811025-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> References: <1310502063.42716.YahooMailClassic@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <546701713-1310558213-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1211350425-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry><000c01cc415e$c7ab5f10$57021d30$@net><34F1F7CD08AA4FC491D8032AF6FBF4F2@HPW><00c801cc41a2$c6f90e20$54eb2a60$@net> <1773090861-1310597706-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-662811025-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <00f101cc41b4$520fd5f0$f62f81d0$@net> Now you tell me. I just spent my last bucks on a NOS "view" for the mirror! -----Original Message----- From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com [mailto:cour.jpeg at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 6:55 PM To: Paul; datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net; 'E Scanlon'; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wheel colors Chinese air? Man, the only lead I want in my tires are the balance weights. You could have found the NOS air on ebay. I took some advice and posted a small canister's worth retrieved from the innards of a Toyo 5.20-14 whitewall bias-ply, never been flat, never broken off the rim, yeha ! Time remaining: 20m 13s 15 bids. 070622987 ****cgk $520.27 ***alvin $520.00 Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net> Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 17:21:04 To: 'E Scanlon'; Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wheel colors Hey, mine is all original, ... if you don't count the KA24, carpet and seats, paint, and well, maybe a few other things! (:-) I couldn't find any NOS water for the cooling system so I used some Mount Shasta Spring water I found at the local Dollar store. And the air in the tires came from a Chinese compressor. Does that count. Paul -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of E Scanlon Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:02 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wheel colors This is almost TOO funny! Whenever a "purist" in the Z / Roadster community gets a little too uppity over how perfectly "original" state they've RESTORED their car to... I ask if they have Factory Air in their tires. Admittedly, this might be seen as a bit "mean", but let's face it... RESTORED means it's no longer ORIGINAL! If you insist on rubbing people's noses into the "originality" of your car, it better be a true blue survivor and not one that just came out of a body shop after a frame-off restoration. It may have been restored to original specifications, with a lot of research into the appropriate parts for the VIN and date of manufacture, and therefore a beautiful example worthy of praise, BUT.... it's no longer an original survivor, it's a restored vehicle. Sorry, I guess I personally prefer a well-kept SURVIVOR over a restoration. Nothing wrong with a restoration, mine is one, but a survivor... mmmmm. E At least from '68 onward they came in a fine grain/ aluminum silver. That's based on several NOS spares I've had, with itty bitty skinny tread bias whitewall tires, with original air ! Paul ***************************************** Label it "NOS Air" and put it on ebay! $$$$$$ Another Paul Ohio ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com From escanlon at wa-net.com Wed Jul 13 19:19:12 2011 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 18:19:12 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Wheel colors References: <1310502063.42716.YahooMailClassic@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <546701713-1310558213-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1211350425-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry><000c01cc415e$c7ab5f10$57021d30$@net><34F1F7CD08AA4FC491D8032AF6FBF4F2@HPW><00c801cc41a2$c6f90e20$54eb2a60$@net> <1773090861-1310597706-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-662811025-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <18EBAEBDB16D4F31BE8E4CD079157DFD@HPW> I bit hard and went looking for it hoping to send it to a couple people I know and darned if I could find it. Good one!!! E ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wheel colors Chinese air? Man, the only lead I want in my tires are the balance weights. You could have found the NOS air on ebay. I took some advice and posted a small canister's worth retrieved from the innards of a Toyo 5.20-14 whitewall bias-ply, never been flat, never broken off the rim, yeha ! Time remaining: 20m 13s 15 bids. 070622987 ****cgk $520.27 ***alvin $520.00 Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wheel colors Hey, mine is all original, ... if you don't count the KA24, carpet and seats, paint, and well, maybe a few other things! (:-) I couldn't find any NOS water for the cooling system so I used some Mount Shasta Spring water I found at the local Dollar store. And the air in the tires came from a Chinese compressor. Does that count. Paul This is almost TOO funny! Whenever a "purist" in the Z / Roadster community gets a little too uppity over how perfectly "original" state they've RESTORED their car to... I ask if they have Factory Air in their tires. Admittedly, this might be seen as a bit "mean", but let's face it... RESTORED means it's no longer ORIGINAL! If you insist on rubbing people's noses into the "originality" of your car, it better be a true blue survivor and not one that just came out of a body shop after a frame-off restoration. It may have been restored to original specifications, with a lot of research into the appropriate parts for the VIN and date of manufacture, and therefore a beautiful example worthy of praise, BUT.... it's no longer an original survivor, it's a restored vehicle. Sorry, I guess I personally prefer a well-kept SURVIVOR over a restoration. Nothing wrong with a restoration, mine is one, but a survivor... mmmmm. E At least from '68 onward they came in a fine grain/ aluminum silver. That's based on several NOS spares I've had, with itty bitty skinny tread bias whitewall tires, with original air ! Paul ***************************************** Label it "NOS Air" and put it on ebay! $$$$$$ Another Paul Ohio ________________________________________ From aultgc at att.net Wed Jul 13 20:37:10 2011 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:37:10 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Wheel colors References: <1310502063.42716.YahooMailClassic@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <546701713-1310558213-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1211350425-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry><000c01cc415e$c7ab5f10$57021d30$@net><34F1F7CD08AA4FC491D8032AF6FBF4F2@HPW><00c801cc41a2$c6f90e20$54eb2a60$@net> <1773090861-1310597706-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-662811025-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: OK, you guys deserve this: A four-panel "BC" cartoon. 1st: BC and friend are walking through the forest and emerge into a mountain glen. 2nd: BC: "Smell that fresh mountain air. I should bottle this and sell it back in the city." 3rd: Friend: "Who'd be stupid enough to buy that?" 4th: BC: "Same people who buy bottled water." ;-) Gary (Scotty, send more power to the shields!) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net>; ; "'EScanlon'" ; Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wheel colors > Chinese air? Man, the only lead I want in my tires are the balance > weights. > > You could have found the NOS air on ebay. > > I took some advice and posted a small canister's worth retrieved from the > innards of a Toyo 5.20-14 whitewall bias-ply, never been flat, never > broken off the rim, yeha ! > > Time remaining: 20m 13s > > 15 bids. 070622987 > > ****cgk $520.27 > ***alvin $520.00 > > Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net> > Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 > 17:21:04 > To: 'E Scanlon'; > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wheel colors > > Hey, mine is all original, ... if you don't count the KA24, carpet and > seats, paint, and well, maybe a few other things! (:-) I couldn't find > any > NOS water for the cooling system so I used some Mount Shasta Spring water > I > found at the local Dollar store. And the air in the tires came from a > Chinese compressor. Does that count. > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of E Scanlon > Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:02 PM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wheel colors > > This is almost TOO funny! > > Whenever a "purist" in the Z / Roadster community gets a little too uppity > over how perfectly "original" state they've RESTORED their car to... I ask > if > they have Factory Air in their tires. > > Admittedly, this might be seen as a bit "mean", but let's face it... > RESTORED > means it's no longer ORIGINAL! > > If you insist on rubbing people's noses into the "originality" of your > car, > it > better be a true blue survivor and not one that just came out of a body > shop > after a frame-off restoration. It may have been restored to original > specifications, with a lot of research into the appropriate parts for the > VIN > and date of manufacture, and therefore a beautiful example worthy of > praise, > BUT.... it's no longer an original survivor, it's a restored vehicle. > > Sorry, I guess I personally prefer a well-kept SURVIVOR over a > restoration. > Nothing wrong with a restoration, mine is one, but a survivor... mmmmm. > > E > > > > At least from '68 onward they came in a fine grain/ aluminum silver. > That's > based on several NOS spares I've had, with itty bitty skinny tread bias > whitewall tires, with original air ! > > Paul > ***************************************** > > Label it "NOS Air" and put it on ebay! $$$$$$ > > Another Paul > Ohio > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From tom at datsun2000.com Wed Jul 13 23:02:41 2011 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:02:41 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Wheel colors Message-ID: <20110714050242.XMIX3904.fed1rmfepo103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo03.cox.net> Hey, if you get too many people bidding on that air, I have some 1968 air from Japan I can offer up... Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Las Vegas http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org PS, if anybody in the Northwest is interested I would like to hand off the NOWROC web site. I can host at no charge. On 7/13/2011 3:55:05 PM, cour.jpeg at gmail.com wrote: > Chinese air? Man, the only lead I want in my tires are the balance weights. > > > You could have found the NOS air on ebay. > > I took some advice and posted a small > canister's worth retrieved from the innards of a Toyo 5.20-14 whitewall bias-ply, never been flat, never broken off the rim, yeha ! > > Time remaining: 20m 13s > > 15 bids. 070622987 > > ****cgk $520.27 > ***alvin $520.00 > > Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net> > Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 17:21:04 > To: 'E > Scanlon'; > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wheel colors From hallosb at juno.com Thu Jul 14 13:28:20 2011 From: hallosb at juno.com (hallosb at juno.com) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:28:20 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] Wheel colors Message-ID: <20110714.122820.4756.0@webmail16.vgs.untd.com> Really?!! You dudes are way too harsh. A guy asks the original color of the wheels and you throw him into the "obnoxious purist" category. I think its a legitimate question. Finding a real survivor of any make is next to impossible. Restoring a car as close to original may not float your boat but, some people like them that way. Just help the guy out. Oversensitive Roadster Enthusiast,Dan'66 1600 ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "E Scanlon" To: Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wheel colors Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:02:02 -0700 This is almost TOO funny! Whenever a "purist" in the Z / Roadster community gets a little too uppity over how perfectly "original" state they've RESTORED their car to... I ask if they have Factory Air in their tires. ____________________________________________________________ Refinance for 2.50%/3.03% APR Loans under 729K usually qualify for US GOV backed refinance programs http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4e1f43913a57d3c5953st02vuc From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Thu Jul 14 14:12:14 2011 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (cour.jpeg at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:12:14 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Wheel colors In-Reply-To: <20110714.122820.4756.0@webmail16.vgs.untd.com> References: <20110714.122820.4756.0@webmail16.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <133143449-1310674336-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1814905708-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> Nah, man, I took it as a theoretical discussion, after a benign and reasonable query. I'm probably to blame for the 'original air' satirical wisecrack others picked up on to continue this thread, long after the basic question was answered. No harm intended. Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: "hallosb at juno.com" Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:28:20 To: Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wheel colors Really?!! You dudes are way too harsh. A guy asks the original color of the wheels and you throw him into the "obnoxious purist" category. I think its a legitimate question. Finding a real survivor of any make is next to impossible. Restoring a car as close to original may not float your boat but, some people like them that way. Just help the guy out. Oversensitive Roadster Enthusiast,Dan'66 1600 ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "E Scanlon" To: Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wheel colors Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:02:02 -0700 This is almost TOO funny! Whenever a "purist" in the Z / Roadster community gets a little too uppity over how perfectly "original" state they've RESTORED their car to... I ask if they have Factory Air in their tires. ____________________________________________________________ Refinance for 2.50%/3.03% APR Loans under 729K usually qualify for US GOV backed refinance programs http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4e1f43913a57d3c5953st02vuc ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com From escanlon at wa-net.com Thu Jul 14 14:37:51 2011 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:37:51 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Wheel colors References: <20110714.122820.4756.0@webmail16.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <45C7DCCE76304663BEE9E3592645E8B8@HPW> You're obviously NOT reading the whole SERIES of replies whereby he not only received CORRECT answer(S plural!), but a humorous tangent came off that series and you then read the last of it. So you then decided to SPAM the list with your signature string.... "Refinance for 2.50%/3.03% APR Loans under 729K usually qualify for US GOV backed refinance programs" Now whose reply is inappropriate? Free e-mail is not really worth what you pay for it. E Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wheel colors Really?!! You dudes are way too harsh. A guy asks the original color of the wheels and you throw him into the "obnoxious purist" category. I think its a legitimate question. Finding a real survivor of any make is next to impossible. Restoring a car as close to original may not float your boat but, some people like them that way. Just help the guy out. Oversensitive Roadster Enthusiast,Dan'66 1600 ---------- Original Message ---------- Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wheel colors Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:02:02 -0700 This is almost TOO funny! Whenever a "purist" in the Z / Roadster community gets a little too uppity over how perfectly "original" state they've RESTORED their car to... I ask if they have Factory Air in their tires. ____________________________________________________________ From mark at bradakis.com Thu Jul 14 19:39:14 2011 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:39:14 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] shasta pictures? In-Reply-To: <683D3018-26B2-4CDD-967C-45ECC87C486A@gene.com> References: <683D3018-26B2-4CDD-967C-45ECC87C486A@gene.com> Message-ID: <4E1F9A42.6030106@bradakis.com> Alvin Gogineni wrote: > does anyone have nay posted yet? As a reminder, unlike this email list, the Datsuns forum at http://www.team.net/forums will allow posting of pictures. mjb. From tputland at charter.net Fri Jul 15 07:36:43 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:36:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] datsun on MN craiglist Message-ID: <2abf3a7.97934.1312e03747c.Webtop.46@charter.net> http://rmn.craigslist.org/grd/2480590725.html Not mine nor do I know anything about it..... Tim From tputland at charter.net Fri Jul 15 07:41:07 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:41:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 70 SRL on IL Craiglist Message-ID: Says 2000 but grill says otherwise. I cannot make out the rear badge. Not mine nor do I know the car. http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/2487775646.html Tim From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 15 08:01:57 2011 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 70 SRL on IL Craiglist In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1310738517.79740.YahooMailClassic@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yeah, looks like an early grill -- but rear lights and windshield height -- esp. rear lights -- say '70... Gary McCormick San Jose, CA '70 2000 SRL311-13291 --- On Fri, 7/15/11, Tim wrote: From: Tim Subject: [Roadsters] 70 SRL on IL Craiglist To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Friday, July 15, 2011, 6:41 AM Says 2000 but grill says otherwise. I cannot make out the rear badge. Not mine nor do I know the car. http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/2487775646.html Tim ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Fri Jul 15 13:19:01 2011 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:19:01 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] cool '68 with hardtop in El Segundo Message-ID: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F66088C56@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> Saw a roadster on the road today at lunchtime, nice silver '68 1600 with a white trapezoid hardtop. Corner of Sepulveda and Mariposa. Middle aged gentleman (feels kinda funny saying that, as he is only ~10 years older than me) Haven't seen this car before, but always glad to see another on the road (especially in hot weather). Fergus O, 69 2000 (prepping for employee car show next week, and long term prep for SoCalTT backroads drive in October) From tputland at charter.net Fri Jul 15 15:55:27 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:55:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] battery tender Message-ID: <4a9ba1de.9d114.1312fcc101f.Webtop.46@charter.net> I bought a battery tender about a week ago. After each drive since I have hooked it up and the next day the little light has always been green. I had the Roadster out last night with headlights on and an auxillary power jack running my garmin. Today, about 18 hours since hooking up the battery tender, the light is still red (not that surprising I guess) but the plug end is very hot. Anyone else experience this? Thanks Tim From tomuo at comcast.net Sat Jul 16 00:21:28 2011 From: tomuo at comcast.net (Tom Duffy) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 23:21:28 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] battery tender In-Reply-To: <4a9ba1de.9d114.1312fcc101f.Webtop.46@charter.net> References: <4a9ba1de.9d114.1312fcc101f.Webtop.46@charter.net> Message-ID: <4E212DE8.6050506@comcast.net> I too bought a well reviewed battery tender off Amazon for my Datsun. Not too impressed with it, on first use it stayed red for more than 72 hours, which is the max it should have taken. I gave it another 48 hours, and it finally went green. The unit (block that plugs into the AC power) always feels a bit too warm even for when it is not actively charging. My battery has always been quick to self-discharge (or the clock is drawing too much current, which I don't think it is), and the electrolytes might not be completely in balance, which might be throwing the battery tender into a confused state. Tom. On 2011/07/15 14:55, Tim wrote: > I bought a battery tender about a week ago. After each drive since I > have hooked it up and the next day the little light has always been > green. I had the Roadster out last night with headlights on and an > auxillary power jack running my garmin. Today, about 18 hours since > hooking up the battery tender, the light is still red (not that > surprising I guess) but the plug end is very hot. > > Anyone else experience this? From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Sat Jul 16 06:10:06 2011 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (cour.jpeg at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:10:06 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] battery tender In-Reply-To: <4E212DE8.6050506@comcast.net> References: <4a9ba1de.9d114.1312fcc101f.Webtop.46@charter.net><4E212DE8.6050506@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1789217699-1310820654-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2126968364-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> Splain this to me. Does the thing have a timer, with a current sensor? And what happens when it switches from red to green? (Besides the LED changing color) Is there a dual stage charging circuit, perhaps, where red = high charge rate and green = trickle? I'm always suspicious of these things since they're usually not sophisticated enough to match what they do to the CCA/battery size and age. And Tom, I think the clock is spring wound, and no current draw except for the second or two it takes to trigger the electro_mechanical windup. Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: Tom Duffy Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 23:21:28 To: Subject: Re: [Roadsters] battery tender I too bought a well reviewed battery tender off Amazon for my Datsun. Not too impressed with it, on first use it stayed red for more than 72 hours, which is the max it should have taken. I gave it another 48 hours, and it finally went green. The unit (block that plugs into the AC power) always feels a bit too warm even for when it is not actively charging. My battery has always been quick to self-discharge (or the clock is drawing too much current, which I don't think it is), and the electrolytes might not be completely in balance, which might be throwing the battery tender into a confused state. Tom. On 2011/07/15 14:55, Tim wrote: > I bought a battery tender about a week ago. After each drive since I > have hooked it up and the next day the little light has always been > green. I had the Roadster out last night with headlights on and an > auxillary power jack running my garmin. Today, about 18 hours since > hooking up the battery tender, the light is still red (not that > surprising I guess) but the plug end is very hot. > > Anyone else experience this? ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com From svedise at hotmail.com Sat Jul 16 08:38:14 2011 From: svedise at hotmail.com (Jim Svedise) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 07:38:14 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] battery tender In-Reply-To: <4E212DE8.6050506@comcast.net> References: <4a9ba1de.9d114.1312fcc101f.Webtop.46@charter.net> <4E212DE8.6050506@comcast.net> Message-ID: Battery tender is not a charger. It only is keeps it from discharging. So your battery needs to be charged first and when it will stay that way forever. If your battery is good and terminals are clean. I have been using them for two years now and they work great. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Tom Duffy Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 11:21 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] battery tender I too bought a well reviewed battery tender off Amazon for my Datsun. Not too impressed with it, on first use it stayed red for more than 72 hours, which is the max it should have taken. I gave it another 48 hours, and it finally went green. The unit (block that plugs into the AC power) always feels a bit too warm even for when it is not actively charging. My battery has always been quick to self-discharge (or the clock is drawing too much current, which I don't think it is), and the electrolytes might not be completely in balance, which might be throwing the battery tender into a confused state. Tom. On 2011/07/15 14:55, Tim wrote: > I bought a battery tender about a week ago. After each drive since I > have hooked it up and the next day the little light has always been > green. I had the Roadster out last night with headlights on and an > auxillary power jack running my garmin. Today, about 18 hours since > hooking up the battery tender, the light is still red (not that > surprising I guess) but the plug end is very hot. > > Anyone else experience this? From pauljsouza at yahoo.com Sat Jul 16 10:26:42 2011 From: pauljsouza at yahoo.com (Paul Souza) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake drums Message-ID: <1310833602.67595.YahooMailClassic@web161011.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Hi Everyone, I have a rear brake drum that will not come off. This is the first time I have experienced this. I have removed the brake line, drained the line, tried tapping on it, tried to pry it off with screw drivers towards the center, and tried force turning with no success in getting it off. I am thinking of drilling holes, threading the holes and trying to screw bolts to to pry it out. I think some of the early Datsun 510/Z's had the drums drilled and threaded towards the center to put bolts through to push the drum out. Please send me suggestions on how to remove it. Thanks so much, Paul 69 2000 Vacaville, CA From roadster at astound.net Sat Jul 16 13:14:33 2011 From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:14:33 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake drums In-Reply-To: <1310833602.67595.YahooMailClassic@web161011.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1310833602.67595.YahooMailClassic@web161011.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ease it off by tapping against a wood block behind the fins around the drum. By repeatedly tapping and relocating the wood block, you will eventually free the drum. See the pictures I posted for reference. Http://gallery.me.com/katzfred/100079 Fred - SSF, CA 66 2L 70 1600 On Jul 16, 2011, at 9:26 AM, Paul Souza wrote: > Hi Everyone, > I have a rear brake drum that will not come off. This is the first time I > have experienced this. I have removed the brake line, drained the line, tried > tapping on it, tried to pry it off with screw drivers towards the center, and > tried force turning with no success in getting it off. > I am thinking of drilling holes, threading the holes and trying to screw bolts > to to pry it out. I think some of the early Datsun 510/Z's had the drums > drilled and threaded towards the center to put bolts through to push the drum > out. > > Please send me suggestions on how to remove it. > > Thanks so much, > Paul > 69 2000 > Vacaville, CA From rtdengr at charter.net Sat Jul 16 13:27:00 2011 From: rtdengr at charter.net (Bob Dicke) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 14:27:00 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake drums In-Reply-To: <1310833602.67595.YahooMailClassic@web161011.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1310833602.67595.YahooMailClassic@web161011.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003401cc43ee$55ea2ef0$01be8cd0$@charter.net> Paul, If the drum turns then there is likely a lip inside the drum that the shoes are catching on. Try backing off the brake adjuster all the way and see if that helps. Bob -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Souza Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 11:27 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake drums Hi Everyone, I have a rear brake drum that will not come off. This is the first time I have experienced this. I have removed the brake line, drained the line, tried tapping on it, tried to pry it off with screw drivers towards the center, and tried force turning with no success in getting it off. I am thinking of drilling holes, threading the holes and trying to screw bolts to to pry it out. I think some of the early Datsun 510/Z's had the drums drilled and threaded towards the center to put bolts through to push the drum out. Please send me suggestions on how to remove it. Thanks so much, Paul 69 2000 Vacaville, CA ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rtdengr at charter.net From hallosb at juno.com Sat Jul 16 14:49:56 2011 From: hallosb at juno.com (hallosb at juno.com) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 20:49:56 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake drums Message-ID: <20110716.134956.7800.0@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> I doubt hydraulic pressure is the problem. The drum will often rust itself to the axle. So, you may want to spray some PB blaster around the edges of the center hole of the drum itself and let it soak. Don't go crazy and get oil on your brake shoes unless you already planned on replacing them. I would not pry with screw drivers because you may damage the backing plate. Can you spin the drum freely? If not, check the emergency brake linkage to ensure it's fully releasing. If the drum still won't spin, try the brake adjustment slot on the back. I've had good luck with a dead blow. Alternating taps on the front side of the drum and the back edge. Again, be careful not to damage the backing plate. Some have suggested heating but, I've never had to resort to it. Hope that helps,Dan'66 1600 ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Paul Souza To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake drums Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Hi Everyone, I have a rear brake drum that will not come off. This is the first time I have experienced this. I have removed the brake line, drained the line, tried tapping on it, tried to pry it off with screw drivers towards the center, and tried force turning with no success in getting it off. I am thinking of drilling holes, threading the holes and trying to screw bolts to to pry it out. I think some of the early Datsun 510/Z's had the drums drilled and threaded towards the center to put bolts through to push the drum out. Please send me suggestions on how to remove it. Thanks so much, Paul 69 2000 Vacaville, CA ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/hallosb at juno.com ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 3000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4e21f9c3dee9d3bf82st05vuc From tomuo at comcast.net Sat Jul 16 15:20:18 2011 From: tomuo at comcast.net (Tom Duffy) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 14:20:18 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] battery tender In-Reply-To: <1789217699-1310820654-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2126968364-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> References: <4a9ba1de.9d114.1312fcc101f.Webtop.46@charter.net><4E212DE8.6050506@comcast.net> <1789217699-1310820654-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2126968364-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <4E220092.2060501@comcast.net> On 2011/07/16 5:10, cour.jpeg at gmail.com wrote: > Splain this to me. > > Does the thing have a timer, with a current sensor? > > And what happens when it switches from red to green? (Besides the LED changing color) > > Is there a dual stage charging circuit, perhaps, where red = high charge rate and green = trickle? > > I'm always suspicious of these things since they're usually not sophisticated enough to match what they do to the CCA/battery size and age. > > And Tom, I think the clock is spring wound, and no current draw except for the second or two it takes to trigger the electro_mechanical windup. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CITK8S From the description: * Perfect for charging all 12-volt lead-acid, flooded or sealed maintenance free batteries (AGM and gel cell) * Complete 4-step charging program (Initialization, Bulk Charge, Float Mode) allows for optimization of battery power, without overcharging I've clicked through to the explanations on the manufacturer's website, and it seems legit, a microprocessor controlled (current sensing) charger. In Float mode it is still providing a voltage to the battery to maintain a small current, but I wasn't expecting that to generate much heat in the charger itself... Tom. From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Sat Jul 16 15:52:51 2011 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (cour.jpeg at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:52:51 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake drums In-Reply-To: References: <1310833602.67595.YahooMailClassic@web161011.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1560715511-1310853173-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-605411080-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> Fred's got a good strategy. I have used a hard rubber mallet on the backside of a drum jammed tight by a shoe that had "swole-up" from a leaking cylinder. Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: Fred Katz Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:14:33 To: Paul Souza Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rear brake drums Ease it off by tapping against a wood block behind the fins around the drum. By repeatedly tapping and relocating the wood block, you will eventually free the drum. See the pictures I posted for reference. Http://gallery.me.com/katzfred/100079 Fred - SSF, CA 66 2L 70 1600 On Jul 16, 2011, at 9:26 AM, Paul Souza wrote: > Hi Everyone, > I have a rear brake drum that will not come off. This is the first time I > have experienced this. I have removed the brake line, drained the line, tried > tapping on it, tried to pry it off with screw drivers towards the center, and > tried force turning with no success in getting it off. > I am thinking of drilling holes, threading the holes and trying to screw bolts > to to pry it out. I think some of the early Datsun 510/Z's had the drums > drilled and threaded towards the center to put bolts through to push the drum > out. > > Please send me suggestions on how to remove it. > > Thanks so much, > Paul > 69 2000 > Vacaville, CA ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com From 9laser3 at bright.net Sat Jul 16 15:54:04 2011 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (9laser3 at bright.net) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 17:54:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake drums In-Reply-To: References: <1310833602.67595.YahooMailClassic@web161011.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <201107162154.061215@ms2.cniteam.com> Yeah, what he said! Paul Ohio From Fairlady at putermail.net Sat Jul 16 15:56:21 2011 From: Fairlady at putermail.net (Martin Craig) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 17:56:21 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake drums In-Reply-To: <1310833602.67595.YahooMailClassic@web161011.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1310833602.67595.YahooMailClassic@web161011.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <019c01cc4403$33401490$99c03db0$@putermail.net> I had the same problem when I first got my 2000, I rented a gear puller from a local tool rental shop and it came right off. Chas -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Souza Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 12:27 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake drums Hi Everyone, I have a rear brake drum that will not come off. This is the first time I have experienced this. I have removed the brake line, drained the line, tried tapping on it, tried to pry it off with screw drivers towards the center, and tried force turning with no success in getting it off. I am thinking of drilling holes, threading the holes and trying to screw bolts to to pry it out. I think some of the early Datsun 510/Z's had the drums drilled and threaded towards the center to put bolts through to push the drum out. Please send me suggestions on how to remove it. Thanks so much, Paul 69 2000 Vacaville, CA ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/fairlady at putermail.ne t From pauljsouza at yahoo.com Sat Jul 16 21:27:16 2011 From: pauljsouza at yahoo.com (Paul Souza) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 20:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake drums In-Reply-To: <201107162154.061215@ms2.cniteam.com> Message-ID: <1310873236.59731.YahooMailClassic@web161002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Hi Everyone, I want to Thank everyone that responded. I checked my email a few times then just went out and got it off. well .. I ended up snapping off the brake shoe adjuster end. Now I need to purchase one. I took the nuts and washers off the adjuster and the top of the drum started to come off. I had to remove the shims in the back of the wheel cylinder and take off the brakeline. The drum came out more but still would not come loose. For some reason, the brake shoes were locked in the drum! I had worked it out as mush as I could and used a screw driver to force one of the shoes out. Once I got one of the shoes forced out the drum came off. I inspected the drum and brake shoes but nothing appeared wrong. GO FIGURE ! I plan to clean it throughly and inspect again. This happened all because I bleed the brakes. Next steps, I plan to purchase new adjusters and wheel cylinders. Then re-assemble when I get time. Everyone..Thanks for all the help. Paul 69 2000 Vacaville CA From finden at ozemail.com.au Sat Jul 16 21:57:28 2011 From: finden at ozemail.com.au (Noel Finden) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 13:57:28 +1000 Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake drums In-Reply-To: <1310873236.59731.YahooMailClassic@web161002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <201107162154.061215@ms2.cniteam.com> <1310873236.59731.YahooMailClassic@web161002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001cc4435$a5c79e20$f156da60$@ozemail.com.au> I bet your brake shoes will be really shiny! Roughen them up before you re-assemble or to be safer by new good quality shoes, and have the drums honed Noel Finden 70 2000 Australia -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Souza Sent: Sunday, 17 July 2011 1:27 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rear brake drums Hi Everyone, I want to Thank everyone that responded. I checked my email a few times then just went out and got it off. well .. I ended up snapping off the brake shoe adjuster end. Now I need to purchase one. I took the nuts and washers off the adjuster and the top of the drum started to come off. I had to remove the shims in the back of the wheel cylinder and take off the brakeline. The drum came out more but still would not come loose. For some reason, the brake shoes were locked in the drum! I had worked it out as mush as I could and used a screw driver to force one of the shoes out. Once I got one of the shoes forced out the drum came off. I inspected the drum and brake shoes but nothing appeared wrong. GO FIGURE ! I plan to clean it throughly and inspect again. This happened all because I bleed the brakes. Next steps, I plan to purchase new adjusters and wheel cylinders. Then re-assemble when I get time. Everyone..Thanks for all the help. Paul 69 2000 Vacaville CA ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/finden at ozemail.com.au From sumton at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 16 22:15:35 2011 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 23:15:35 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach cable Message-ID: <53C44FFCCEE946909E45BFC265EA50F6@ranteer.local> are the speedo and tach cable interchangeable between an early 67 1600 and a 70 2000? I looked at the parts list and they seemed to be. From sumton at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 16 22:48:38 2011 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 23:48:38 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 questions Message-ID: hi. I'm pretty familiar with the 1600, but tomorrow I'm going to look at a 2000. check compression, listen for the death rattle, but is there anything else I need to look for? (I know to look for rust and all the other stuff) thanks From dhyson at charter.net Sun Jul 17 04:25:53 2011 From: dhyson at charter.net (Durf & Sue Hyson) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 06:25:53 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] battery tender In-Reply-To: <4E212DE8.6050506@comcast.net> References: <4a9ba1de.9d114.1312fcc101f.Webtop.46@charter.net> <4E212DE8.6050506@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4E22B8B1.4000908@charter.net> Here's weird question ! Are both the batteries in these cases conventional lead acid batteries ? It sounds it . Especially the car that was driven with the headlights and the nav unit on , What is being said there is that while the car was being driven the alternator was NOT capable of supplying enough power to run the car and charge the battery or , in a more likely scenario , the battery is partially what we used to call sulfated and is so resistant to charge it was slowly losing power . Generally speaking when you come home after driving the car and throw your tender on most of the time it should go straight to green . The exception to this would be the half hour errand run down town where you started and stopped the engine 6 times as you went from place to place but the total run time on the engine was 10 or 12 minutes . In a case like that the starter may have pulled the battery down a little and the drive home wasn't long enough to fully recharge it . The heat you feel in the plug of the tender is from it "straining" to force juice into a battery that it senses needs it but the battery is resisting taking it . It's kind of like that red face you got when 1 year old you were sure needed to be fed wasn't so sure it was willing to eat . You've got the apple sauce on the spoon and the spoon up to his/her face but the mouth just isn't gonna open and take it in . There is one other consideration on tenders . They are most efficient by a factor of about 3 when you install the short hard wire pigtail and plug in and out of that as opposed to using the alligator clamps . A tender is a very low amperage rickle charger . Any of its power wasted through weak connectons is power the battery never sees . You think you are giving it 1 1/2 amps but it is only seeing half that with the expected effect on the charging time .Also as we add all kinds of neat stuff to our cars , especially anything with a memory (stereo's are the biggest culprit here) the draw on the battery goes up . this is why we keep a tender on them in the first place but in some cases there is so much draw that a real automatic 2 to 10 amp battery charger is a better option than a tender . Thanks, Durf (Battery tendered vehicles I have or am dealing with : 7 Zs , 1 2000 , 5 Loti , 9 asst race cars , 2 Cortinas , 2 car trailers , 3 tow vehicles , etc) on first use it stayed red for more than 72 hours, > which is the max it should have taken. I gave it another 48 hours, and > it finally went green. The unit (block that plugs into the AC power) > always feels a bit too warm even for when it is not actively charging. > >> I bought a battery tender about a week ago. After each drive since I >> have hooked it up and the next day the little light has always been >> green. I had the Roadster out last night with headlights on and an >> auxillary power jack running my garmin. Today, about 18 hours since >> hooking up the battery tender, the light is still red (not that >> surprising I guess) but the plug end is very hot. From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Sun Jul 17 12:46:21 2011 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (cour.jpeg at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 18:46:21 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake drums In-Reply-To: <000001cc4435$a5c79e20$f156da60$@ozemail.com.au> References: <201107162154.061215@ms2.cniteam.com><1310873236.59731.YahooMailClassic@web161002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com><000001cc4435$a5c79e20$f156da60$@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <2787657-1310928381-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1288602702-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> I'd also cook new shoes or pads in an old toaster oven at 250 degs for a few hours. I have found it minimizes brake squeal. Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: "Noel Finden" Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 13:57:28 To: 'Paul Souza'; Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rear brake drums I bet your brake shoes will be really shiny! Roughen them up before you re-assemble or to be safer by new good quality shoes, and have the drums honed Noel Finden 70 2000 Australia -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Souza Sent: Sunday, 17 July 2011 1:27 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rear brake drums Hi Everyone, I want to Thank everyone that responded. I checked my email a few times then just went out and got it off. well .. I ended up snapping off the brake shoe adjuster end. Now I need to purchase one. I took the nuts and washers off the adjuster and the top of the drum started to come off. I had to remove the shims in the back of the wheel cylinder and take off the brakeline. The drum came out more but still would not come loose. For some reason, the brake shoes were locked in the drum! I had worked it out as mush as I could and used a screw driver to force one of the shoes out. Once I got one of the shoes forced out the drum came off. I inspected the drum and brake shoes but nothing appeared wrong. GO FIGURE ! I plan to clean it throughly and inspect again. This happened all because I bleed the brakes. Next steps, I plan to purchase new adjusters and wheel cylinders. Then re-assemble when I get time. Everyone..Thanks for all the help. Paul 69 2000 Vacaville CA ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/finden at ozemail.com.au ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com From wilhouse at charter.net Sun Jul 17 17:23:11 2011 From: wilhouse at charter.net (wilhouse at charter.net) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 19:23:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Nice cars on Auto Trader Classics Message-ID: <161d2c.70bf0.1313a691a8f.Webtop.44@charter.net> I haven't seen these mentioned here. Looks like 3 very clean roadsters, including a 68 2000. Several nice looking Z's as well. If you are into that kinda stuff...... Like the 260 with triple Weber's. drooooool!!! I'll leave it to you to search. http://www.autotraderclassics.com/index.xhtml Ken '67 1600 Janesville, WI From utahltps at yahoo.com Sun Jul 17 18:17:30 2011 From: utahltps at yahoo.com (Paul Strahl) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 17:17:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Clock In-Reply-To: <1789217699-1310820654-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2126968364-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> References: <4a9ba1de.9d114.1312fcc101f.Webtop.46@charter.net><4E212DE8.6050506@comcast.net> <1789217699-1310820654-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2126968364-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <1310948250.87856.YahooMailRC@web112716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Speaking of clocks. My 70 1600 clocked has basically not worked. I have been busy working on other issues that actually keep me from running the car and have not been concerned about the clock. I run the car almost daily now. A few days ago the clock started working. It kept good time. This lasted a few days then it stopped again. Any body have this experience and any ideas for easy way to correct this? The clock looks difficult to get at for investigation. Thanks Paul S ________________________________ From: "cour.jpeg at gmail.com" To: Tom Duffy ; datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, July 16, 2011 6:10:06 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] battery tender Splain this to me. Does the thing have a timer, with a current sensor? And what happens when it switches from red to green? (Besides the LED changing color) Is there a dual stage charging circuit, perhaps, where red = high charge rate and green = trickle? I'm always suspicious of these things since they're usually not sophisticated enough to match what they do to the CCA/battery size and age. And Tom, I think the clock is spring wound, and no current draw except for the second or two it takes to trigger the electro_mechanical windup. Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: Tom Duffy Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 23:21:28 To: Subject: Re: [Roadsters] battery tender I too bought a well reviewed battery tender off Amazon for my Datsun. Not too impressed with it, on first use it stayed red for more than 72 hours, which is the max it should have taken. I gave it another 48 hours, and it finally went green. The unit (block that plugs into the AC power) always feels a bit too warm even for when it is not actively charging. My battery has always been quick to self-discharge (or the clock is drawing too much current, which I don't think it is), and the electrolytes might not be completely in balance, which might be throwing the battery tender into a confused state. Tom. On 2011/07/15 14:55, Tim wrote: > I bought a battery tender about a week ago. After each drive since I > have hooked it up and the next day the little light has always been > green. I had the Roadster out last night with headlights on and an > auxillary power jack running my garmin. Today, about 18 hours since > hooking up the battery tender, the light is still red (not that > surprising I guess) but the plug end is very hot. > > Anyone else experience this? ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/utahltps at yahoo.com From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Sun Jul 17 18:22:48 2011 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (cour.jpeg at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 00:22:48 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Clock In-Reply-To: <1310948250.87856.YahooMailRC@web112716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <4a9ba1de.9d114.1312fcc101f.Webtop.46@charter.net><4E212DE8.6050506@comcast.net> <1789217699-1310820654-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2126968364-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry><1310948250.87856.YahooMailRC@web112716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <789190750-1310948568-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-523555104-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> First, I've been reminded that the Datsun stock clock stops when power is removed, so it's not the electro-mechanical wind-up type I thought in the discussion on here earlier of battery charging/current. But on clock reliability, out of the half-dozen Roadsters I've had for a year or more (68-70 model years) only one car's clock consistently worked ! And it's just that problem of getting to it, as you point out, that had kept me from doing any exploration. Also I figured out Roadster Time is measured in miles. : ) Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: Paul Strahl Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 17:17:30 To: ; ; Subject: Clock Speaking of clocks. My 70 1600 clocked has basically not worked. I have been busy working on other issues that actually keep me from running the car and have not been concerned about the clock. I run the car almost daily now. A few days ago the clock started working. It kept good time. This lasted a few days then it stopped again. Any body have this experience and any ideas for easy way to correct this? The clock looks difficult to get at for investigation. Thanks Paul S ________________________________ From: "cour.jpeg at gmail.com" To: Tom Duffy ; datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, July 16, 2011 6:10:06 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] battery tender Splain this to me. Does the thing have a timer, with a current sensor? And what happens when it switches from red to green? (Besides the LED changing color) Is there a dual stage charging circuit, perhaps, where red = high charge rate and green = trickle? I'm always suspicious of these things since they're usually not sophisticated enough to match what they do to the CCA/battery size and age. And Tom, I think the clock is spring wound, and no current draw except for the second or two it takes to trigger the electro_mechanical windup. Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: Tom Duffy Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 23:21:28 To: Subject: Re: [Roadsters] battery tender I too bought a well reviewed battery tender off Amazon for my Datsun. Not too impressed with it, on first use it stayed red for more than 72 hours, which is the max it should have taken. I gave it another 48 hours, and it finally went green. The unit (block that plugs into the AC power) always feels a bit too warm even for when it is not actively charging. My battery has always been quick to self-discharge (or the clock is drawing too much current, which I don't think it is), and the electrolytes might not be completely in balance, which might be throwing the battery tender into a confused state. Tom. On 2011/07/15 14:55, Tim wrote: > I bought a battery tender about a week ago. After each drive since I > have hooked it up and the next day the little light has always been > green. I had the Roadster out last night with headlights on and an > auxillary power jack running my garmin. Today, about 18 hours since > hooking up the battery tender, the light is still red (not that > surprising I guess) but the plug end is very hot. > > Anyone else experience this? ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/utahltps at yahoo.com From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Sun Jul 17 18:46:57 2011 From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 17:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Clock In-Reply-To: <789190750-1310948568-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-523555104-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <1310950017.15357.YahooMailClassic@web121417.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> positive or negative connection --- On Sun, 7/17/11, cour.jpeg at gmail.com wrote: From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Clock To: "Paul Strahl" , datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, July 17, 2011, 8:22 PM First, I've been reminded that the Datsun stock clock stops when power is removed, so it's not the electro-mechanical wind-up type I thought in the discussion on here earlier of battery charging/current. But on clock reliability, out of the half-dozen Roadsters I've had for a year or more (68-70 model years) only one car's clock consistently worked ! And it's just that problem of getting to it, as you point out, that had kept me from doing any exploration. Also I figured out Roadster Time is measured in miles. : ) Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: Paul Strahl Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 17:17:30 To: ; ; Subject: Clock Speaking of clocks. My 70 1600 clocked has basically not worked. I have been busy working on other issues that actually keep me from running the car and have not been concerned about the clock. I run the car almost daily now. A few days ago the clock started working. It kept good time. This lasted a few days then it stopped again. Any body have this experience and any ideas for easy way to correct this? The clock looks difficult to get at for investigation. Thanks Paul S ________________________________ From: "cour.jpeg at gmail.com" To: Tom Duffy ; datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, July 16, 2011 6:10:06 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] battery tender Splain this to me. Does the thing have a timer, with a current sensor? And what happens when it switches from red to green? (Besides the LED changing color) Is there a dual stage charging circuit, perhaps, where red = high charge rate and green = trickle? I'm always suspicious of these things since they're usually not sophisticated enough to match what they do to the CCA/battery size and age. And Tom, I think the clock is spring wound, and no current draw except for the second or two it takes to trigger the electro_mechanical windup. Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: Tom Duffy Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 23:21:28 To: Subject: Re: [Roadsters] battery tender I too bought a well reviewed battery tender off Amazon for my Datsun. Not too impressed with it, on first use it stayed red for more than 72 hours, which is the max it should have taken. I gave it another 48 hours, and it finally went green. The unit (block that plugs into the AC power) always feels a bit too warm even for when it is not actively charging. My battery has always been quick to self-discharge (or the clock is drawing too much current, which I don't think it is), and the electrolytes might not be completely in balance, which might be throwing the battery tender into a confused state. Tom. On 2011/07/15 14:55, Tim wrote: > I bought a battery tender about a week ago. After each drive since I > have hooked it up and the next day the little light has always been > green. I had the Roadster out last night with headlights on and an > auxillary power jack running my garmin. Today, about 18 hours since > hooking up the battery tender, the light is still red (not that > surprising I guess) but the plug end is very hot. > > Anyone else experience this? ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/utahltps at yahoo.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com From tputland at charter.net Sun Jul 17 18:49:59 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 20:49:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 2011 Road & Track Concours d' Elegance for Sport Cars at Elkhart Lake, WI Message-ID: <1fca190a.1cf35.1313ab890d2.Webtop.47@charter.net> Millions of dollars worth of cars to be seen, including two spotless Datsun 2000s!! http://thedatsunroadtrippers.shutterfly.com/1189 What a great evening! Along with a 67.5 2000 owned and driven by Mike and Joy Johnston, I was honored to drive another of their beautiful Roadsters to this concourse: a spotless 68 2000 with an original dash that was perfect in every way! Since our normal photographer couldn't make it, I did the best I could. I tried to take a shot of the car and then the engine. I skipped the more mundane American muscle and tried to concentrate mostly on the exotics. Several million dollars in cars were there to be seen and enjoyed! Disclaimer: photographer was an amateur Enjoy!! Tim From tputland at charter.net Sun Jul 17 19:03:26 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 21:03:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 2011 Road & Track Concours d' Elegance for Sport Cars at Elkhart Lake, WI Message-ID: <5ab8c5a4.1d100.1313ac4e159.Webtop.47@charter.net> Millions of dollars worth of cars to be seen, including two spotless Datsun 2000s!! http://thedatsunroadtrippers.shutterfly.com/1189 What a great evening! Along with a 67.5 2000 owned and driven by Mike and Joy Johnston, I was honored to drive another of their beautiful Roadsters to this concourse: a spotless 68 2000 with an original dash that was perfect in every way! Since our normal photographer couldn't make it, I did the best I could. I tried to take a shot of the car and then the engine. I skipped the more mundane American muscle and tried to concentrate mostly on the exotics. Several million dollars in cars were there to be seen and enjoyed! Disclaimer: photographer was an amateur Enjoy!! Tim From aultgc at att.net Sun Jul 17 20:04:25 2011 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 21:04:25 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach cable References: <53C44FFCCEE946909E45BFC265EA50F6@ranteer.local> Message-ID: Oliver, Tach cable, yes. "Late" tach cables had longer ferrules at the instrument end, which makes them less flexible when installing. Early tach cables are harder to find, and more expensive when you do. Either will perform properly, but I like the early cables for low-windshield cars because of the fit-up issue. (Some people carrefully cut the ferrule with a tubing cutter, which adds flexibility near the tach connection.) I THINK the 1600 speedo cables were shorter than the 2000 cable, so it may depend on which way you're going -- 2000 to 1600 or vice-versa. Dean (datsunparts.com) lists "one longer cable for both 1600 and 2000". Dann (Rallye; datsunroadster.com) lists separate cable part numbers for the 1600 and 2000. It would not surprise me to find a 2000 speedo cable in a 1600 because that was what the dealer had at the time. If it reaches, you're fine. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "oliver" To: Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 11:15 PM Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach cable > are the speedo and tach cable interchangeable between an early 67 1600 and > a > 70 2000? > > I looked at the parts list and they seemed to be. > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From aultgc at att.net Sun Jul 17 20:29:03 2011 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 21:29:03 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Clock References: <4a9ba1de.9d114.1312fcc101f.Webtop.46@charter.net><4E212DE8.6050506@comcast.net><1789217699-1310820654-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2126968364-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> <1310948250.87856.YahooMailRC@web112716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Do you have a wiring diagram? If not, download one for your year from 311s.org. Look for a bad connection. Just dealt with a similar issue with the fuel gauge on my '67-1/2 2000. Worked sometimes, then finaly quit. Turned out to be combination of things, but one was a bad connection where the dash harness links with the rear harness. Most people's experiences, at least as I have read, are that roadster clocks don't work very well. The clock in my '66 1600 gains about 1 minute a day -- very reliably. There's an adjustment on the back if I were ambitious enough to take it out and play with it. I have learned to reset it whenever I get in for the first time each day. The clock in my '67-1/2 2000 keeps perfect time -- over weeks. Go figure. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Strahl" To: ; ; Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 7:17 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Clock > Speaking of clocks. My 70 1600 clocked has basically not worked. I have > been > busy working on other issues that actually keep me from running the car > and > have > not been concerned about the clock. I run the car almost daily now. A > few days > ago the clock started working. It kept good time. This lasted a few > days then it > stopped again. Any body have this experience and any ideas for > easy way to > correct this? The clock looks difficult to get at for > investigation. > > Thanks Paul S > > > ________________________________ > From: > "cour.jpeg at gmail.com" > To: Tom Duffy ; > datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net; > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Sat, July 16, 2011 6:10:06 AM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] battery tender > Splain this to me. > > Does the thing have a timer, with a current sensor? > > And > what happens when it switches from red to green? (Besides the LED changing > color) > > > Is there a dual stage charging circuit, perhaps, where red = high > charge rate > and green = trickle? > > I'm always suspicious of these things since > they're usually not sophisticated > enough to match what they do to the > CCA/battery size and age. > > And Tom, I think the clock is spring wound, and no > current draw except for the > second or two it takes to trigger the > electro_mechanical windup. > > > Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Duffy > Sender: > datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 23:21:28 > To: > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] battery tender > > I > too bought a well reviewed battery tender off Amazon for my Datsun. > Not too > impressed with it, on first use it stayed red for more than 72 > hours, > which > is the max it should have taken. I gave it another 48 hours, and > it finally > went green. The unit (block that plugs into the AC power) > always feels a bit > too warm even for when it is not actively charging. > > My battery has always > been quick to self-discharge (or the clock > is drawing too much current, which > I don't think it is), and the > electrolytes > might not be completely in > balance, which might be throwing the > battery tender into a confused state. > Tom. > > > On 2011/07/15 14:55, Tim wrote: >> I bought a battery tender about a > week ago. After each drive since I >> have hooked it up and the next day the > little light has always been >> green. I had the Roadster out last night with > headlights on and an >> auxillary power jack running my garmin. Today, about > 18 hours since >> hooking up the battery tender, the light is still red (not > that >> surprising I guess) but the plug end is very hot. >> >> Anyone else > experience this? > ________________________________________ > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/utahltps at yahoo.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From noji-1 at pacbell.net Sun Jul 17 23:40:04 2011 From: noji-1 at pacbell.net (dana nojima) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 22:40:04 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Wheels on the Red 2000 Message-ID: <015301cc450d$25460920$6fd21b60$@net> Message: 6 Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 20:49:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim To: bobjudyputland , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" , Mike and Joy Johnstons Subject: [Roadsters] 2011 Road & Track Concours d' Elegance for Sport Cars at Elkhart Lake, WI Message-ID: <1fca190a.1cf35.1313ab890d2.Webtop.47 at charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Millions of dollars worth of cars to be seen, including two spotless Datsun 2000s!! http://thedatsunroadtrippers.shutterfly.com/1189 What a great evening! Along with a 67.5 2000 owned and driven by Mike and Joy Johnston, I was honored to drive another of their beautiful Roadsters to this concourse: a spotless 68 2000 with an original dash that was perfect in every way! Since our normal photographer couldn't make it, I did the best I could. I tried to take a shot of the car and then the engine. I skipped the more mundane American muscle and tried to concentrate mostly on the exotics. Several million dollars in cars were there to be seen and enjoyed! Disclaimer: photographer was an amateur Enjoy!! Tim Tim, Nice pictures. I lived in MN for about 10 years and always loved summer when the collector cars came out. Does anybody know what type of wheels are one the red roadster? Thanks. Dana Dana Nojima noji-1 at pacbell.net 510.219.6474 From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 17 23:45:20 2011 From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Prather) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 22:45:20 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster clocks Message-ID: <240214E0-EEBA-4EAC-B2ED-8A41D632FE55@sbcglobal.net> I recently disassembled all my 69 gauges including the clock to have rescreened in tan. Once the movement was removed, I found that most all the pivot points were dry. Oiled with a fine point oiler and now it works just fine and has never stopped. Removing the clock from the dash was the biggest bear. From tputland at charter.net Mon Jul 18 07:25:55 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:25:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] battery tender Message-ID: <3732cd41.1b486f.1313d6ca3ca.Webtop.48@charter.net> Thanks to all who replied.... A few answers to various questions: The battery is good. I have had it tested three times: twice with small hand held units at two different FLAPS and once on some unit that took an hour to fully test. The tender I am using is a Battery Tender "junior" that is connectted directly to the battery using alligator clamps. I will most likely switch to the directly wired pig tails. Upon closer inspection I found that the car's negative battery terminal wire was slightly lose. This was probably causing the hot condition at the wall plug. The alternator is a one wire GM unit with less than 5000 miles on it. I suspect that the alt is the weak link in my car's charging system here as I am no longer happy with the mounting (pulley slightly off perfect allignment) arrangment. I will be fixing this soon. Thanks again for all replies. Tim On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Tim wrote: > I bought a battery tender about a week ago. After each drive since I > have hooked it up and the next day the little light has always been > green. I had the Roadster out last night with headlights on and an > auxillary power jack running my garmin. Today, about 18 hours since > hooking up the battery tender, the light is still red (not that > surprising I guess) but the plug end is very hot. > > Anyone else experience this? > > Thanks > > Tim > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From rksmith46 at hotmail.com Mon Jul 18 15:09:21 2011 From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 17:09:21 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hi oliver, well, you might want to remove the cam cover and see if the cam and followers are nice and smoothe. you can see how much the upper chain tens. shoe is sticking out of the tens.(less than 1/2 way is good). ck. the fuel and water pumps,for leaks or seapage. make sure 5th gear works. make sure the trans. shifts to 2nd and 3rd without grinding( a slow, normal shift). it's always possible to beat the synchros in a fast 1-2 shift.(that is, grind the gear). oh yeah, the u-20 eng. is a lot stronger than your r-16, and should pull well from about 3000-6000 rpm. wiggle on the throttle shaft linkage to see how worn the carb. bodys are.(im assuming it has 2 hitachi single carbs.) remember, although the eng. has timing chains, you need to change them about every 50-60 k miles. and, like a timing belt eng., IF you dont know when the chains have been done, you should plan on it, SOON. usually you can just do both chains, and lower tens., leaving off the lower tens. guide(which breaks a lot). unless the eng. has over 150k miles, or is really gunked up inside, the gears dont have to be changed as often as the chains. BTW, if you hear a rattle that sounds like chain(upper tens.), try to pin point it to top or bottom of eng.. if it's bottom of timing cover, dont dismiss the car. if its the lower tens. guide, it wont hurt the eng., until you fix it. the guide just lays there on the bottom of the timing cover rattling against the chain, slightly.(AND, thats why you leave it off the block when you do chains). ive never heard a lower chain tens. rattle, because there is lots of oil press.on it. the top tens. is the last to get oil.(hence the two ck. balls in the tens.). also, you might want to push(sideways) on the dist. shaft, to ck. for distr. bushing wear. sorry to go on and on, but there are some differences and weak points to the u-20 eng.. i love the u-20 because the bottom end(bearings) are so big and strong. ive run mine unmercifilly over the years, but i have always done periodic bearing cks. pulling the pan is easy. well, best of luck, bob smith, ohio, 614 418 9911 > From: sumton at sbcglobal.net > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 23:48:38 -0500 > Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 questions > > hi. > > I'm pretty familiar with the 1600, but tomorrow I'm going to look at a 2000. > > check compression, listen for the death rattle, but is there anything else I > need to look for? > > (I know to look for rust and all the other stuff) > > thanks > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rksmith46 at hotmail.com From Walter.Peterson at cox.net Mon Jul 18 23:53:13 2011 From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter Peterson) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:53:13 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] battery tender In-Reply-To: <4E22B8B1.4000908@charter.net> References: <4a9ba1de.9d114.1312fcc101f.Webtop.46@charter.net> <4E212DE8.6050506@comcast.net> <4E22B8B1.4000908@charter.net> Message-ID: <005c01cc45d8$269d0960$73d71c20$@cox.net> I just RMA'd a battery tender KNOWING it was bad because it couldn't keep my Yamaha battery up to snuff. (Enough to start). But I was wrong! The battery couldn't keep a good enough charge because I had "hurt it" one too many times. Installed a new battery and all is well. Battery Tenders will charge your battery if it can take it. If you think you need a brute force charger to pump it up, you're just buying a little time. I learned all of this from the manufacture of my battery minder. I wasn't too happy with needing another new battery in such short order, but he was right and the bike starts easy every time I want to ride it! Walt Peterson Santa Barbara CA 67e R20 w/44's 5-spd, LSD & Big Brakes. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Durf & Sue Hyson Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 3:26 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] battery tender Here's weird question ! Are both the batteries in these cases conventional lead acid batteries ? It sounds it . Especially the car that was driven with the headlights and the nav unit on , What is being said there is that while the car was being driven the alternator was NOT capable of supplying enough power to run the car and charge the battery or , in a more likely scenario , the battery is partially what we used to call sulfated and is so resistant to charge it was slowly losing power . Generally speaking when you come home after driving the car and throw your tender on most of the time it should go straight to green . The exception to this would be the half hour errand run down town where you started and stopped the engine 6 times as you went from place to place but the total run time on the engine was 10 or 12 minutes . In a case like that the starter may have pulled the battery down a little and the drive home wasn't long enough to fully recharge it . The heat you feel in the plug of the tender is from it "straining" to force juice into a battery that it senses needs it but the battery is resisting taking it . It's kind of like that red face you got when 1 year old you were sure needed to be fed wasn't so sure it was willing to eat . You've got the apple sauce on the spoon and the spoon up to his/her face but the mouth just isn't gonna open and take it in . There is one other consideration on tenders . They are most efficient by a factor of about 3 when you install the short hard wire pigtail and plug in and out of that as opposed to using the alligator clamps . A tender is a very low amperage rickle charger . Any of its power wasted through weak connectons is power the battery never sees . You think you are giving it 1 1/2 amps but it is only seeing half that with the expected effect on the charging time .Also as we add all kinds of neat stuff to our cars , especially anything with a memory (stereo's are the biggest culprit here) the draw on the battery goes up . this is why we keep a tender on them in the first place but in some cases there is so much draw that a real automatic 2 to 10 amp battery charger is a better option than a tender . Thanks, Durf (Battery tendered vehicles I have or am dealing with : 7 Zs , 1 2000 , 5 Loti , 9 asst race cars , 2 Cortinas , 2 car trailers , 3 tow vehicles , etc) on first use it stayed red for more than 72 hours, > which is the max it should have taken. I gave it another 48 hours, and > it finally went green. The unit (block that plugs into the AC power) > always feels a bit too warm even for when it is not actively charging. > >> I bought a battery tender about a week ago. After each drive since I >> have hooked it up and the next day the little light has always been >> green. I had the Roadster out last night with headlights on and an >> auxillary power jack running my garmin. Today, about 18 hours since >> hooking up the battery tender, the light is still red (not that >> surprising I guess) but the plug end is very hot. ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/walter.peterson at cox.n et From 9laser3 at bright.net Tue Jul 19 08:52:29 2011 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:52:29 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] KA24E missing? Message-ID: <004401cc4623$7cbb2160$76316420$@net> Last ice cream run, I hit a lousy patch of gravel road on a detour and shook the heck out of my roadster. Right after that, the KA started missing at anything over easy acceleration and over 2800 rpms. I checked the wires to all the sensors and everything seems okay. Today I changed the fuel filter thinking that a 40+ year old gas tank probably had some crud shake loose, but the filter was clean. And while it was in the garage, I flushed out the cooling system. Took it for a brief ride, and it is still missing. I pulled the plugs as soon as I got it back in the garage. Oddly, 1 and 3 look perfect while 2 & 4 are clean, dry, but the top half of the insulator is black while the tip is a nice clean ash color. Any thoughts what I should look for? (Besides a R16 to put back in it!) Paul Ohio From ljordan704 at netscape.net Tue Jul 19 09:21:56 2011 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 08:21:56 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] KA24E missing? In-Reply-To: <004401cc4623$7cbb2160$76316420$@net> References: <004401cc4623$7cbb2160$76316420$@net> Message-ID: <2A430BD4-F635-4BFA-8028-C485B742D995@netscape.net> Maybe some Sea Foam to burn out any carbon that may have shook loose? Linda Sent from my iPod On Jul 19, 2011, at 7:52 AM, "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote: > Last ice cream run, I hit a lousy patch of gravel road on a detour and > shook the heck out of my roadster. Right after that, the KA started missing > at anything over easy acceleration and over 2800 rpms. I checked the wires > to all the sensors and everything seems okay. > > Today I changed the fuel filter thinking that a 40+ year old gas tank > probably had some crud shake loose, but the filter was clean. And while it > was in the garage, I flushed out the cooling system. Took it for a brief > ride, and it is still missing. > > I pulled the plugs as soon as I got it back in the garage. Oddly, 1 and 3 > look perfect while 2 & 4 are clean, dry, but the top half of the insulator > is black while the tip is a nice clean ash color. > > > > Any thoughts what I should look for? (Besides a R16 to put back in it!) > > > > Paul > > Ohio > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Tue Jul 19 09:25:03 2011 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (cour.jpeg at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:25:03 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] KA24E missing? In-Reply-To: <004401cc4623$7cbb2160$76316420$@net> References: <004401cc4623$7cbb2160$76316420$@net> Message-ID: <1868128781-1311089108-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-561998899-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> Check for a carbon path inside the distributor cap, esp between the contacts for 2/4. Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net> Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:52:29 To: 'datsun-roadsters' Subject: [Roadsters] KA24E missing? Last ice cream run, I hit a lousy patch of gravel road on a detour and shook the heck out of my roadster. Right after that, the KA started missing at anything over easy acceleration and over 2800 rpms. I checked the wires to all the sensors and everything seems okay. Today I changed the fuel filter thinking that a 40+ year old gas tank probably had some crud shake loose, but the filter was clean. And while it was in the garage, I flushed out the cooling system. Took it for a brief ride, and it is still missing. I pulled the plugs as soon as I got it back in the garage. Oddly, 1 and 3 look perfect while 2 & 4 are clean, dry, but the top half of the insulator is black while the tip is a nice clean ash color. Any thoughts what I should look for? (Besides a R16 to put back in it!) Paul Ohio ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com From 9laser3 at bright.net Tue Jul 19 10:58:22 2011 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 12:58:22 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] KA24E missing? In-Reply-To: <2A430BD4-F635-4BFA-8028-C485B742D995@netscape.net> References: <004401cc4623$7cbb2160$76316420$@net> <2A430BD4-F635-4BFA-8028-C485B742D995@netscape.net> Message-ID: <008201cc4635$2d0b7b80$87227280$@net> Got a free bottle of GumOut Fuel System Cleaner at the last race at Nelson Ledges. I have it sloshing around in the tank right now, but if this miss continues this bad, I may not be driving it enough to work. Paul -----Original Message----- From: ljordan704 at netscape.net [mailto:ljordan704 at netscape.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 11:22 AM To: Paul Cc: datsun-roadsters Subject: Re: [Roadsters] KA24E missing? Maybe some Sea Foam to burn out any carbon that may have shook loose? Linda From msedlack at neo.rr.com Tue Jul 19 11:53:02 2011 From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:53:02 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] KA24E missing? References: <004401cc4623$7cbb2160$76316420$@net> Message-ID: <2F3B33DF486741378F737C152370BEFF@p53ghzduo> Does the ECU use a socketed chip? If so, check that its solidly seated and didn't get shaken loose. Same for the connectors at the ECU. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net> To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 10:52 AM Subject: [Roadsters] KA24E missing? > Last ice cream run, I hit a lousy patch of gravel road on a detour and > shook the heck out of my roadster. Right after that, the KA started > missing > at anything over easy acceleration and over 2800 rpms. I checked the > wires > to all the sensors and everything seems okay. > > Today I changed the fuel filter thinking that a 40+ year old gas tank > probably had some crud shake loose, but the filter was clean. And while > it > was in the garage, I flushed out the cooling system. Took it for a brief > ride, and it is still missing. > > I pulled the plugs as soon as I got it back in the garage. Oddly, 1 and > 3 > look perfect while 2 & 4 are clean, dry, but the top half of the insulator > is black while the tip is a nice clean ash color. > > > > Any thoughts what I should look for? (Besides a R16 to put back in it!) > > > > Paul > > Ohio > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/msedlack at neo.rr.com From rksmith46 at hotmail.com Tue Jul 19 20:33:36 2011 From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:33:36 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] KA24E missing? In-Reply-To: <2F3B33DF486741378F737C152370BEFF@p53ghzduo> References: <004401cc4623$7cbb2160$76316420$@net>, <2F3B33DF486741378F737C152370BEFF@p53ghzduo> Message-ID: hi paul, i know its a pain, but, ck. all the wiring and harnesses under the hood. see if a wire has rubbed through. look at the plug wires for rubbing or proximity to metal. pull the fuel inj. wires off one conn. at a time to pin point the miss.( im assuming a dead miss, not intermitt.) use a hose, or a stethoscope, and listen to the fuel inj.s and see if one isnt clicking, or the click sounds different, or softer. best of luck, bob smith > From: msedlack at neo.rr.com > To: 9laser3 at bright.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:53:02 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] KA24E missing? > > Does the ECU use a socketed chip? If so, check that its solidly seated and > didn't get shaken loose. Same for the connectors at the ECU. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net> > To: "'datsun-roadsters'" > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 10:52 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] KA24E missing? > > > > Last ice cream run, I hit a lousy patch of gravel road on a detour and > > shook the heck out of my roadster. Right after that, the KA started > > missing > > at anything over easy acceleration and over 2800 rpms. I checked the > > wires > > to all the sensors and everything seems okay. > > > > Today I changed the fuel filter thinking that a 40+ year old gas tank > > probably had some crud shake loose, but the filter was clean. And while > > it > > was in the garage, I flushed out the cooling system. Took it for a brief > > ride, and it is still missing. > > > > I pulled the plugs as soon as I got it back in the garage. Oddly, 1 and > > 3 > > look perfect while 2 & 4 are clean, dry, but the top half of the insulator > > is black while the tip is a nice clean ash color. > > > > > > > > Any thoughts what I should look for? (Besides a R16 to put back in it!) > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > Ohio > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/msedlack at neo.rr.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rksmith46 at hotmail.com From aultgc at att.net Tue Jul 19 20:42:40 2011 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:42:40 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Calling Jim Bain Message-ID: <167186E8B2CA46EDB1A31BD02EA1D427@gaxp1> Jim Bain, Are you out there? First of all, I want to thank you for taking the time to prepare your = wonderful color wiring diagrams for the roadster, which I downloaded = from 311s.org and printed at work in 11x17. (I have thought of plotting = them in 34x22, but, so far, 11x17 works fine.) The 65-67 and 67.5 = diagrams have been of great help to me. In troubleshooting a gauge wiring problem in my '67-1/2 2000, though, I = noticed what I believe is an error in the 67.5 diagram. I have a spare = (used) '67-1/2 dash harness, and the differences are consistent with = what I found in my car, so I think it is truly an error. Please note = that the error has absolutely no electrical consequence, but I figured = anyone who put as much time into this effort as you have would want to = know. The wiring diagram shows a yellow/green wire going from the gauge = voltage regulator to the temperature gauge, and a yellow/red wire = (spliced to the yellow/green wire leaving the gauge voltage regulator) = going to the fuel gauge. The reality is opposite: The yellow green = wire goes to the fuel gauge, and the yellow/red wire goes to the = temperature gauge. A nit-pick, to be sure, because both wires are connected. But, again, I = thought you would want to know. Gary Ault '66 1600/U20 SU SPL311-05917 (purchased in July 1971; converted to = U20-SU in 1972) '67-1/2 2000 Solex SRL311-00428 (purchased in April, 2008) From stebharvey at ameritech.net Wed Jul 20 04:11:42 2011 From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 05:11:42 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Towing question Message-ID: Group, Has anyone ever towed their roadster behind a motor home? I'm thinking about doing this myself. It appears that I would need to build the attachment points on the front of the frame myself since there aren't any manufactures that make attachment brackets anymore for our little cars. I would also have to disconnect the driveshaft when towing plus install a light and indicator connection to the car. Any other considerations that I've missed? Thanks Steb Milwaukee From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 05:50:31 2011 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (cour.jpeg at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 11:50:31 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Towing question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1732657904-1311162631-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-883028091-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> I once retrieved a '68 with a borrowed, custom-made tow bar that used the mounting points for the front bumper. Remove the bumper, bolt-up this framework, which terminated in a standard coupler. Seemed adequate for local use. Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: "Steve Harvey" Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 05:11:42 To: Datsun List Subject: [Roadsters] Towing question Group, Has anyone ever towed their roadster behind a motor home? I'm thinking about doing this myself. It appears that I would need to build the attachment points on the front of the frame myself since there aren't any manufactures that make attachment brackets anymore for our little cars. I would also have to disconnect the driveshaft when towing plus install a light and indicator connection to the car. Any other considerations that I've missed? Thanks Steb Milwaukee ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com From 9laser3 at bright.net Wed Jul 20 06:52:09 2011 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 08:52:09 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] KA missing? Message-ID: <001a01cc46db$d7b50a50$871f1ef0$@net> Thanks to all who replied. I'm having some problems getting email past Bright.net lately. The rotor is rock solid; no wobble at all, and no up or down movement. I did find one connector that was a bit loose so I tie wrapped it tight. And several connectors seem to be growing green stuff! I know this is corrosion of the contacts, but what kind of tool is there to clean inside the female half? And is there something I can use to stop the green stuff from returning? Thanks again for all the help, Paul From tputland at charter.net Wed Jul 20 07:30:18 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 09:30:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] KA missing? Message-ID: <553f58.8dfcb.13147bd5f08.Webtop.44@charter.net> Dielectric grease in the fittings to stop corrosion? Tim On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Paul wrote: > Thanks to all who replied. I'm having some problems getting email > past > Bright.net lately. > > > The rotor is rock solid; no wobble at all, and no up or down > movement. I > did find one connector that was a bit loose so I tie wrapped it tight. > And > several connectors seem to be growing green stuff! I know this is > corrosion > of the contacts, but what kind of tool is there to clean inside the > female > half? And is there something I can use to stop the green stuff from > returning? > > > Thanks again for all the help, > > > Paul > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From RWM at RWMann.com Wed Jul 20 07:51:11 2011 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 09:51:11 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] --> Re: KA missing? In-Reply-To: <553f58.8dfcb.13147bd5f08.Webtop.44@charter.net> References: <553f58.8dfcb.13147bd5f08.Webtop.44@charter.net> Message-ID: <4E26DD4F.1050003@RWMann.com> EXACTLY. On 7/20/2011 9:30 AM, Tim wrote: > Dielectric grease in the fittings to stop corrosion? > > Tim > > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Paul wrote: > >> Thanks to all who replied. I'm having some problems getting email past >> Bright.net lately. >> >> >> The rotor is rock solid; no wobble at all, and no up or down >> movement. I >> did find one connector that was a bit loose so I tie wrapped it >> tight. And >> several connectors seem to be growing green stuff! I know this is >> corrosion >> of the contacts, but what kind of tool is there to clean inside the >> female >> half? And is there something I can use to stop the green stuff from >> returning? >> >> >> Thanks again for all the help, >> >> >> Paul From ljordan704 at netscape.net Wed Jul 20 08:52:08 2011 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 07:52:08 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] KA missing? In-Reply-To: <001a01cc46db$d7b50a50$871f1ef0$@net> References: <001a01cc46db$d7b50a50$871f1ef0$@net> Message-ID: <88662E15-254B-4384-A901-65A608142A56@netscape.net> Electric contact clean AR auto parts stor or Radio Shack. Best to take the terminals out of theconnector to clean but unless you have practiced you will probably break one, so good to have extra terminals on hand. Www.vintageconnections.com has the terminals and a removal tool...I used a super tiny screwdriver. Also a dremel to polish then dialectic grease. Try the spray first, front and back with neg battery cable off. Linda Sent from my iPod On Jul 20, 2011, at 5:52 AM, "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote: > Thanks to all who replied. I'm having some problems getting email past > Bright.net lately. > > > > The rotor is rock solid; no wobble at all, and no up or down movement. I > did find one connector that was a bit loose so I tie wrapped it tight. And > several connectors seem to be growing green stuff! I know this is corrosion > of the contacts, but what kind of tool is there to clean inside the female > half? And is there something I can use to stop the green stuff from > returning? > > > > Thanks again for all the help, > > > > Paul > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From 9laser3 at bright.net Wed Jul 20 08:53:45 2011 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:53:45 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] --> Re: KA missing? In-Reply-To: <4E26DD4F.1050003@RWMann.com> References: <553f58.8dfcb.13147bd5f08.Webtop.44@charter.net> <4E26DD4F.1050003@RWMann.com> Message-ID: <002d01cc46ec$d4a60ce0$7df226a0$@net> I'm sure I have a tube or two of it somewhere in the garage! Thanks, Paul -----Original Message----- From: RWM [mailto:RWM at RWMann.com] Subject: Re: --> Re: [Roadsters] KA missing? EXACTLY. On 7/20/2011 9:30 AM, Tim wrote: > Dielectric grease in the fittings to stop corrosion? > > Tim From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Wed Jul 20 09:22:45 2011 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 11:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Towing question Message-ID: Steve - I have had a custom made towing assembly that works extremely well. I have towed roadsters all over the country or just across town using this set up. You remove the front bumper and attach the tow bar (which makes a great bumper when you leave on). This was made from square tubing welded to flat heavy duty iron that was drilled for the nuts (we did make it oblong hole for aligning better). We also welded corner triangle pieces for support. I can send pix for better visual if you want. Used this for 30 years with a variety of roadsters. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) / _www.ZRoad.org_ (http://www.zroad.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 In a message dated 7/20/2011 4:30:01 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, stebharvey at ameritech.net writes: Group, Has anyone ever towed their roadster behind a motor home? I'm thinking about doing this myself. It appears that I would need to build the attachment points on the front of the frame myself since there aren't any manufactures that make attachment brackets anymore for our little cars. I would also have to disconnect the driveshaft when towing plus install a light and indicator connection to the car. Any other considerations that I've missed? Thanks Steb Milwaukee ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/barterdude at aol.com From jsk977 at optonline.net Wed Jul 20 09:59:27 2011 From: jsk977 at optonline.net (Jerry Krakauer) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 11:59:27 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Towing question - One Caution In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001cc46f6$0122f8b0$0368ea10$@net> I too have a custom made tow bar that bolts to the bumper mounts, used it successfully quite often before I sprung for a race trailer. However, the plates with the holes for the bumper mounting have a tendency to break the weld at the attachment to the frame, so check them frequently. Jerry Krakauer SRL311 00099 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BARTERDUDE at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:23 AM To: stebharvey at ameritech.net; Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Towing question Steve - I have had a custom made towing assembly that works extremely well. I have towed roadsters all over the country or just across town using this set up. You remove the front bumper and attach the tow bar (which makes a great bumper when you leave on). This was made from square tubing welded to flat heavy duty iron that was drilled for the nuts (we did make it oblong hole for aligning better). We also welded corner triangle pieces for support. I can send pix for better visual if you want. Used this for 30 years with a variety of roadsters. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) / _www.ZRoad.org_ (http://www.zroad.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 In a message dated 7/20/2011 4:30:01 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, stebharvey at ameritech.net writes: Group, Has anyone ever towed their roadster behind a motor home? I'm thinking about doing this myself. It appears that I would need to build the attachment points on the front of the frame myself since there aren't any manufactures that make attachment brackets anymore for our little cars. I would also have to disconnect the driveshaft when towing plus install a light and indicator connection to the car. Any other considerations that I've missed? Thanks Steb Milwaukee From roadster2 at schroeder-family.us Wed Jul 20 11:39:17 2011 From: roadster2 at schroeder-family.us (Fred Schroeder) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 12:39:17 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Towing question References: Message-ID: <003a01cc4703$f40a9530$6700a8c0@fubar> I once towed my roadster using the front bumper mounts. It tried to pass us going through Hartford, CT!! And, it nearly succeeded. God bless safety chains. I have a better suggestion. Remove the bumper and mounts. Take two pieces of heavy angle iron and drill them to bolt on in place of the bumper mounts. Take a third piece of angle iron and weld it across the newly made mounts. Four bolts to change it out and you could suspend the car from it! This was done at a truck stop outside of Hartford 35 years ago and I still have it. Quick, simple, and absolutely bullet proof. Best regards, Fred Schroeder roadster2 at schroeder-family.us Home page: http://schroeder-family.us NRA Life Member Behold the superfluous. They are always sick. They vomit their gall and call it a newspaper. Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche 1844-1900 ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Harvey To: Datsun List Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 5:11 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Towing question Group, Has anyone ever towed their roadster behind a motor home? I'm thinking about doing this myself. It appears that I would need to build the attachment points on the front of the frame myself since there aren't any manufactures that make attachment brackets anymore for our little cars. I would also have to disconnect the driveshaft when towing plus install a light and indicator connection to the car. Any other considerations that I've missed? Thanks Steb Milwaukee ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadster2 at schroeder-fa mily.us From escanlon at wa-net.com Wed Jul 20 12:51:38 2011 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 11:51:38 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Calling Jim Bain References: <167186E8B2CA46EDB1A31BD02EA1D427@gaxp1> Message-ID: The original OEM wiring diagram has the YG to the Temp and the YR to the Fuel. >From that I'm pretty sure Jim just followed what the OEM diagram showed. I've done a lot of work with the 240 wiring diagrams and errors, omissions, justapositions, even inverted colors are nothing new. There are also at least one wire in the Roadster diagrams that go "nowhere" yet are part of the circuitry. (GL wire coming from position 2 on a 68 Light Switch.) But good catch. E Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 7:42 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Calling Jim Bain Jim Bain, Are you out there? First of all, I want to thank you for taking the time to prepare your = wonderful color wiring diagrams for the roadster, which I downloaded = from 311s.org and printed at work in 11x17. (I have thought of plotting = them in 34x22, but, so far, 11x17 works fine.) The 65-67 and 67.5 = diagrams have been of great help to me. In troubleshooting a gauge wiring problem in my '67-1/2 2000, though, I = noticed what I believe is an error in the 67.5 diagram. I have a spare = (used) '67-1/2 dash harness, and the differences are consistent with = what I found in my car, so I think it is truly an error. Please note = that the error has absolutely no electrical consequence, but I figured = anyone who put as much time into this effort as you have would want to = know. The wiring diagram shows a yellow/green wire going from the gauge = voltage regulator to the temperature gauge, and a yellow/red wire = (spliced to the yellow/green wire leaving the gauge voltage regulator) = going to the fuel gauge. The reality is opposite: The yellow green = wire goes to the fuel gauge, and the yellow/red wire goes to the = temperature gauge. A nit-pick, to be sure, because both wires are connected. But, again, I = thought you would want to know. Gary Ault '66 1600/U20 SU SPL311-05917 (purchased in July 1971; converted to = U20-SU in 1972) '67-1/2 2000 Solex SRL311-00428 (purchased in April, 2008) ________________________________________ From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Wed Jul 20 16:15:03 2011 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 18:15:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Towing question Message-ID: <279b6.42dfc40c.3b58ad67@aol.com> Suggest welding angle iron piece between the bumper mounting bracket and the frame and the sway bar towers too. Strengthens them up too. Gary Lasater In a message dated 7/20/2011 12:02:46 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, roadster2 at schroeder-family.us writes: I once towed my roadster using the front bumper mounts. It tried to pass us going through Hartford, CT!! And, it nearly succeeded. God bless safety chains. I have a better suggestion. Remove the bumper and mounts. Take two pieces of heavy angle iron and drill them to bolt on in place of the bumper mounts. Take a third piece of angle iron and weld it across the newly made mounts. Four bolts to change it out and you could suspend the car from it! This was done at a truck stop outside of Hartford 35 years ago and I still have it. Quick, simple, and absolutely bullet proof. Best regards, Fred Schroeder roadster2 at schroeder-family.us Home page: http://schroeder-family.us NRA Life Member Behold the superfluous. They are always sick. They vomit their gall and call it a newspaper. Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche 1844-1900 ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Harvey To: Datsun List Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 5:11 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Towing question Group, Has anyone ever towed their roadster behind a motor home? I'm thinking about doing this myself. It appears that I would need to build the attachment points on the front of the frame myself since there aren't any manufactures that make attachment brackets anymore for our little cars. I would also have to disconnect the driveshaft when towing plus install a light and indicator connection to the car. Any other considerations that I've missed? Thanks Steb Milwaukee ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadster2 at schroeder-f a mily.us ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/barterdude at aol.com From ljordan704 at netscape.net Wed Jul 20 20:21:28 2011 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 19:21:28 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Towing question In-Reply-To: <003a01cc4703$f40a9530$6700a8c0@fubar> References: <003a01cc4703$f40a9530$6700a8c0@fubar> Message-ID: You welded the part at a truck stop?? Linda Sent from my iPod On Jul 20, 2011, at 10:39 AM, "Fred Schroeder" wrote: > I once towed my roadster using the front bumper mounts. It tried to pass us > going through Hartford, CT!! And, it nearly succeeded. God bless safety > chains. > > I have a better suggestion. Remove the bumper and mounts. Take two pieces of > heavy angle iron and drill them to bolt on in place of the bumper mounts. > Take a third piece of angle iron and weld it across the newly made mounts. > Four bolts to change it out and you could suspend the car from it! This was > done at a truck stop outside of Hartford 35 years ago and I still have it. > Quick, simple, and absolutely bullet proof. > > Best regards, > > Fred Schroeder > roadster2 at schroeder-family.us > Home page: http://schroeder-family.us > NRA Life Member > > Behold the superfluous. They are always sick. They > vomit their gall and call it a newspaper. > Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche 1844-1900 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steve Harvey > To: Datsun List > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 5:11 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] Towing question > > > Group, > > Has anyone ever towed their roadster behind a motor home? I'm thinking > about > doing this myself. It appears that I would need to build the attachment > points on the front of the frame myself since there aren't any manufactures > that make attachment brackets anymore for our little cars. I would also > have > to disconnect the driveshaft when towing plus install a light and indicator > connection to the car. Any other considerations that I've missed? > > Thanks > > Steb > Milwaukee > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadster2 at schroeder-fa > mily.us > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From sumton at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 20 21:30:56 2011 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:30:56 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] hidden antenna Message-ID: <70236D78365044D2A2C7932E2BD5CC88@ranteer.local> hi, all. I'm thinking of using a "hidden" antenna instead of drilling a hole in the nicely painted bodywork anyone using one successfully? thanks! From roadster2 at schroeder-family.us Wed Jul 20 22:03:23 2011 From: roadster2 at schroeder-family.us (Fred Schroeder) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 23:03:23 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Towing question References: <003a01cc4703$f40a9530$6700a8c0@fubar> Message-ID: <002101cc475b$23371430$6700a8c0@fubar> I didn't but the folks at the shop did. We were moving cross country at the time. We stopped into a truck stop and they fixed it up for us. The original angle iron 'bumper' (with the tow bar hitch attached) was attached to the original bumper mounts and they broke. So the guys made new mounts out of angle iron and welded it together. Best regards, Fred Schroeder roadster2 at schroeder-family.us Home page: http://schroeder-family.us NRA Life Member Behold the superfluous. They are always sick. They vomit their gall and call it a newspaper. Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche 1844-1900 ----- Original Message ----- From: ljordan704 at netscape.net To: Fred Schroeder Cc: Steve Harvey ; Datsun List Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Towing question You welded the part at a truck stop?? Linda Sent from my iPod On Jul 20, 2011, at 10:39 AM, "Fred Schroeder" wrote: > I once towed my roadster using the front bumper mounts. It tried to pass us > going through Hartford, CT!! And, it nearly succeeded. God bless safety > chains. > > I have a better suggestion. Remove the bumper and mounts. Take two pieces of > heavy angle iron and drill them to bolt on in place of the bumper mounts. > Take a third piece of angle iron and weld it across the newly made mounts. > Four bolts to change it out and you could suspend the car from it! This was > done at a truck stop outside of Hartford 35 years ago and I still have it. > Quick, simple, and absolutely bullet proof. > > Best regards, > > Fred Schroeder > roadster2 at schroeder-family.us > Home page: http://schroeder-family.us > NRA Life Member > > Behold the superfluous. They are always sick. They > vomit their gall and call it a newspaper. > Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche 1844-1900 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steve Harvey > To: Datsun List > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 5:11 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] Towing question > > > Group, > > Has anyone ever towed their roadster behind a motor home? I'm thinking > about > doing this myself. It appears that I would need to build the attachment > points on the front of the frame myself since there aren't any manufactures > that make attachment brackets anymore for our little cars. I would also > have > to disconnect the driveshaft when towing plus install a light and indicator > connection to the car. Any other considerations that I've missed? > > Thanks > > Steb > Milwaukee > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadster2 at schroeder-fa > mily.us > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From 9laser3 at bright.net Thu Jul 21 04:49:30 2011 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 06:49:30 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] hidden antenna In-Reply-To: <70236D78365044D2A2C7932E2BD5CC88@ranteer.local> References: <70236D78365044D2A2C7932E2BD5CC88@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <001401cc4793$dfa0e550$9ee2aff0$@net> One of the parts cars at Sloan Racing had an electric antenna mounted in the trunk wheel well with the antenna coming out the top of the fender. It didn't work and the body was pretty bad so it may have ended up in the scrap pile. Paul -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oliver Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:31 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] hidden antenna hi, all. I'm thinking of using a "hidden" antenna instead of drilling a hole in the nicely painted bodywork anyone using one successfully? thanks! ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Thu Jul 21 05:27:42 2011 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (cour.jpeg at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:27:42 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] hidden antenna In-Reply-To: <001401cc4793$dfa0e550$9ee2aff0$@net> References: <70236D78365044D2A2C7932E2BD5CC88@ranteer.local><001401cc4793$dfa0e550$9ee2aff0$@net> Message-ID: <1369987119-1311247663-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-572384414-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> Time for XM Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net> Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 06:49:30 To: 'oliver'; Subject: Re: [Roadsters] hidden antenna One of the parts cars at Sloan Racing had an electric antenna mounted in the trunk wheel well with the antenna coming out the top of the fender. It didn't work and the body was pretty bad so it may have ended up in the scrap pile. Paul -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oliver Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:31 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] hidden antenna hi, all. I'm thinking of using a "hidden" antenna instead of drilling a hole in the nicely painted bodywork anyone using one successfully? thanks! ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com From chalsted at comcast.net Thu Jul 21 07:24:13 2011 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:24:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] need a head on photo of a nice 1600 for the T shirts for the Glen this fall Message-ID: <1210719800.40506.1311254653872.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Elaine's trying to get pix to the design guy that's doing the T shirts for us for the Glen this fall, have 1500 and 2000 pix lined up but need a good shot of a 1600 straight on. sending a photo to me constitutes permission to use it for the design of the shirt. last years shirt was based on Gordon's 67.5 2000, Jeremy will be doing the artwork for us again this year. Thanks! Craig From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 21 11:20:55 2011 From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] hidden antenna In-Reply-To: <70236D78365044D2A2C7932E2BD5CC88@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <1311268855.50469.YahooMailClassic@web81702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I used a hodrod styled hidden antenna on my 66 SPL311. It didn't work too well. The unit was mounted horizontally inside the trunk. Unfortunately, I don't know if its was a problem with the antenna location or the radio itself. The hidden antenna company recommended stashing the antenna horizontally under the dash. I think in this application it should work well. Dan --- On Wed, 7/20/11, oliver wrote: From: oliver Subject: [Roadsters] hidden antenna To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, July 20, 2011, 10:30 PM hi, all. I'm thinking of using a "hidden" antenna instead of drilling a hole in the nicely painted bodywork anyone using one successfully? thanks! From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Thu Jul 21 11:54:30 2011 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (cour.jpeg at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:54:30 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] hidden antenna In-Reply-To: <1311268855.50469.YahooMailClassic@web81702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <70236D78365044D2A2C7932E2BD5CC88@ranteer.local><1311268855.50469.YahooMailClassic@web81702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <438369274-1311270871-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-682652657-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> Such hidden antennas are doomed because the metal in the bodywork "shields" or blocks signal, both AM and FM. One possibility is a magnet mount antenna like the cops use on undercover cars. The coax in this case comes out of the magnet base, right over the back deck, under the carpet, into the back of the radio. You'd want a 'VHF' type, not UHF or cellular, since this is nearest in frequency to the FM band. One supplier is Tessco.com but do a Google for 'VHF magnet mount antenna.'. Maybe $50. Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: Dan Zubkoff Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:20:55 To: ; oliver Subject: Re: [Roadsters] hidden antenna I used a hodrod styled hidden antenna on my 66 SPL311. It didn't work too well. The unit was mounted horizontally inside the trunk. Unfortunately, I don't know if its was a problem with the antenna location or the radio itself. The hidden antenna company recommended stashing the antenna horizontally under the dash. I think in this application it should work well. Dan --- On Wed, 7/20/11, oliver wrote: From: oliver Subject: [Roadsters] hidden antenna To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, July 20, 2011, 10:30 PM hi, all. I'm thinking of using a "hidden" antenna instead of drilling a hole in the nicely painted bodywork anyone using one successfully? thanks! ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com From tom at datsun2000.com Thu Jul 21 12:07:51 2011 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:07:51 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Hidden Antenna Message-ID: <20110721180753.LGHR16474.fed1rmfepo201.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net> I think by asking about a hidden antenna you are referring to an antenna that does not mount through the body at all. I would question the performance of such an antenna on AM, but on FM your reception should be fairly good as long as you are not travelling away from populated areas. As long as there is even a length of wire an inch or more long connected to the antenna input of the radio you will be able to receive FM stations within a limited area. AM takes a little more to pick up stations reliably. The biggest problem you will have is finding a spot where the antenna is not abvious, yet is not shielded by the metal of the car body. About the best spot I found for the antenna for my alarm system was on the hook for the factory hard top located inder the body at the center of the interior just ahead of the trunk lid. Even that was not a very good spot and it did not work well. Since I have Miata seats without speakers I ended up installing the alarm antenna in the speaker area of the right seat headrest. If you have Miata seats this is a great place to hide an antenna or about anything else that will fit in there. If you are talking about a retracting antenna, I have one on Mr. Hyde. It is mounted on the left rear fender and braced with a short link to the flange on the wheel well seam. The antenna motor assembly is properly supported and has survived some spirited driving on some rough roads around Shasta a couple of years ago that destroyed one of my speakers. I tried installing the antenna on the front fender first, but there was not enough room to properly clear the antenna motor assembly. When I replaced the front fender the antenna hole had already been removed, which is why began to look at the rear fender. In addition, I like the clean view out the front without an antenna mast in my view. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Las Vegas http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On 7/20/2011 8:30:56 PM, oliver (sumton at sbcglobal.net) wrote: > hi, all. > > I'm thinking of using a "hidden" antenna instead of drilling a hole in the > nicely painted bodywork > > anyone using one successfully? > > thanks! From aultgc at att.net Thu Jul 21 16:23:13 2011 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:23:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] hidden antenna In-Reply-To: <438369274-1311270871-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-682652657-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> References: <70236D78365044D2A2C7932E2BD5CC88@ranteer.local><1311268855.50469.YahooMailClassic@web81702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <438369274-1311270871-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-682652657-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <1311286993.23205.YahooMailRC@web180209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I don't have a working radio in the car. (Too lazy to install the speaker box and hook it up.) Found I didn't listen to the radio while driving anyway, but then I'm a COF, so that probably doesn't count for much with you young whippersnappers. (And how long has it been since you've heard that term?) Gary ________________________________ From: "cour.jpeg at gmail.com" To: Dan Zubkoff ; datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; oliver Sent: Thu, July 21, 2011 12:54:30 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] hidden antenna Such hidden antennas are doomed because the metal in the bodywork "shields" or blocks signal, both AM and FM. One possibility is a magnet mount antenna like the cops use on undercover cars. The coax in this case comes out of the magnet base, right over the back deck, under the carpet, into the back of the radio. You'd want a 'VHF' type, not UHF or cellular, since this is nearest in frequency to the FM band. One supplier is Tessco.com but do a Google for 'VHF magnet mount antenna.'. Maybe $50. Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: Dan Zubkoff Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:20:55 To: ; oliver Subject: Re: [Roadsters] hidden antenna I used a hodrod styled hidden antenna on my 66 SPL311. It didn't work too well. The unit was mounted horizontally inside the trunk. Unfortunately, I don't know if its was a problem with the antenna location or the radio itself. The hidden antenna company recommended stashing the antenna horizontally under the dash. I think in this application it should work well. Dan --- On Wed, 7/20/11, oliver wrote: From: oliver Subject: [Roadsters] hidden antenna To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, July 20, 2011, 10:30 PM hi, all. I'm thinking of using a "hidden" antenna instead of drilling a hole in the nicely painted bodywork anyone using one successfully? thanks! ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From ljordan704 at netscape.net Thu Jul 21 21:49:15 2011 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:49:15 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] hidden antenna In-Reply-To: <1311286993.23205.YahooMailRC@web180209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <70236D78365044D2A2C7932E2BD5CC88@ranteer.local> <1311268855.50469.YahooMailClassic@web81702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <438369274-1311270871-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-682652657-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> <1311286993.23205.YahooMailRC@web180209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I don't generally hear the term "whippersnappers"...... Linda Sent from my iPod On Jul 21, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > I don't have a working radio in the car. (Too lazy to install the speaker box > and hook it up.) Found I didn't listen to the radio while driving anyway, but > then I'm a COF, so that probably doesn't count for much with you young > whippersnappers. (And how long has it been since you've heard that term?) > Gary > > > > ________________________________ > From: "cour.jpeg at gmail.com" > > To: Dan Zubkoff ; > datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; > oliver > > Sent: Thu, July 21, 2011 12:54:30 PM > Subject: > Re: [Roadsters] hidden antenna > > Such hidden antennas are doomed because the > metal in the bodywork "shields" or > blocks signal, both AM and FM. > > One > possibility is a magnet mount antenna like the cops use on undercover cars. > The coax in this case comes out of the magnet base, right over the back deck, > under the carpet, into the back of the radio. > > > You'd want a 'VHF' type, not > UHF or cellular, since this is nearest in frequency > to the FM band. > > One > supplier is Tessco.com but do a Google for 'VHF magnet mount antenna.'. > Maybe > $50. > > > > Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Zubkoff > Sender: > datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:20:55 > To: > ; oliver > Subject: Re: > [Roadsters] hidden antenna > > I used a hodrod styled hidden antenna on my 66 > SPL311. It didn't work too well. > The unit was mounted horizontally inside the > trunk. Unfortunately, I don't know > if its was a problem with the antenna > location or the radio itself. > > The hidden antenna company recommended stashing > the antenna horizontally under > the dash. I think in this application it > should work well. > > Dan > > --- On Wed, 7/20/11, oliver > wrote: > > From: oliver > Subject: [Roadsters] hidden > antenna > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Wednesday, July 20, 2011, > 10:30 PM > > hi, all. > > I'm thinking of using a "hidden" antenna instead of > drilling a hole in the > nicely painted bodywork > > anyone using one successfully? > thanks! > ________________________________________ > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From dooger at wildblue.net Thu Jul 21 22:05:47 2011 From: dooger at wildblue.net (Wes Jones) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 00:05:47 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] hidden antenna In-Reply-To: References: <70236D78365044D2A2C7932E2BD5CC88@ranteer.local> <1311268855.50469.YahooMailClassic@web81702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <438369274-1311270871-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-682652657-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> <1311286993.23205.YahooMailRC@web180209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Seems like Walter Brennan use the term in his movies. ;-) Best, wes On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 23:49:15 -0400, wrote: > I don't generally hear the term "whippersnappers"...... > > Linda > > Sent from my iPod > > On Jul 21, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > >> I don't have a working radio in the car. (Too lazy to install the >> speaker > box >> and hook it up.) Found I didn't listen to the radio while driving >> anyway, > but >> then I'm a COF, so that probably doesn't count for much with you young >> whippersnappers. (And how long has it been since you've heard that >> term?) >> Gary >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: "cour.jpeg at gmail.com" >> >> To: Dan Zubkoff ; >> datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net; >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; >> oliver >> >> Sent: Thu, July 21, 2011 12:54:30 PM >> Subject: >> Re: [Roadsters] hidden antenna >> >> Such hidden antennas are doomed because the >> metal in the bodywork "shields" or >> blocks signal, both AM and FM. >> >> One >> possibility is a magnet mount antenna like the cops use on undercover >> cars. >> The coax in this case comes out of the magnet base, right over the back > deck, >> under the carpet, into the back of the radio. >> >> >> You'd want a 'VHF' type, not >> UHF or cellular, since this is nearest in frequency >> to the FM band. >> >> One >> supplier is Tessco.com but do a Google for 'VHF magnet mount antenna.'. >> Maybe >> $50. >> >> >> >> Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dan Zubkoff >> Sender: >> datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:20:55 >> To: >> ; oliver >> Subject: Re: >> [Roadsters] hidden antenna >> >> I used a hodrod styled hidden antenna on my 66 >> SPL311. It didn't work too well. >> The unit was mounted horizontally inside the >> trunk. Unfortunately, I don't know >> if its was a problem with the antenna >> location or the radio itself. >> >> The hidden antenna company recommended stashing >> the antenna horizontally under >> the dash. I think in this application it >> should work well. >> >> Dan >> >> --- On Wed, 7/20/11, oliver >> wrote: >> >> From: oliver >> Subject: [Roadsters] hidden >> antenna >> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Date: Wednesday, July 20, 2011, >> 10:30 PM >> >> hi, all. >> >> I'm thinking of using a "hidden" antenna instead of >> drilling a hole in the >> nicely painted bodywork >> >> anyone using one successfully? >> thanks! >> ________________________________________ >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne > t > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/dooger at wildblue.net > > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From stamuki at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 12:15:26 2011 From: stamuki at gmail.com (D Riedel) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:15:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel filter for '69 2000 Message-ID: Seems like I've managed to run more crud into my fuel filter... barely made it home last night with the alternating zoom/sputter. Ack. Can anyone tell me which Napa filter fits? I seem to recall the last filter I bought was way more expensive than most other styles. I'm hoping there is a generic filter available. thanks -- Dave Riedel '69 2000 Victoria, BC From tputland at charter.net Fri Jul 22 13:14:16 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 15:14:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel filter for '69 2000 Message-ID: <6a3ff4a3.21f868.1315345001a.Webtop.45@charter.net> I buy what ever see through plastic I can get. Last time at napa they were less than $5 each. They have ends that are "two sized", meaning the tubes are one size then get slightly bigger to fit two different sized fuel lines. They are cheap enough that they can be tossed once dirty. tim On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 1:15 PM, D Riedel wrote: > Seems like I've managed to run more crud into my fuel filter... barely > made it home last night with the alternating zoom/sputter. Ack. Can > anyone tell me which Napa filter fits? I seem to recall the last > filter I bought was way more expensive than most other styles. I'm > hoping there is a generic filter available. > > thanks > > -- > Dave Riedel > '69 2000 > Victoria, BC > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From ljordan704 at netscape.net Fri Jul 22 13:54:46 2011 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:54:46 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel filter for '69 2000 In-Reply-To: <6a3ff4a3.21f868.1315345001a.Webtop.45@charter.net> References: <6a3ff4a3.21f868.1315345001a.Webtop.45@charter.net> Message-ID: I use the small Wic filters for VW about 3 ea Linda Sent from my iPod On Jul 22, 2011, at 12:14 PM, Tim wrote: > I buy what ever see through plastic I can get. Last time at napa they were less than $5 each. They have ends that are "two sized", meaning the tubes are one size then get slightly bigger to fit two different sized fuel lines. They are cheap enough that they can be tossed once dirty. > > tim > > > On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 1:15 PM, D Riedel wrote: > >> Seems like I've managed to run more crud into my fuel filter... barely >> made it home last night with the alternating zoom/sputter. Ack. Can >> anyone tell me which Napa filter fits? I seem to recall the last >> filter I bought was way more expensive than most other styles. I'm >> hoping there is a generic filter available. >> >> thanks >> >> -- >> Dave Riedel >> '69 2000 >> Victoria, BC >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From utahltps at yahoo.com Fri Jul 22 22:25:06 2011 From: utahltps at yahoo.com (Paul Strahl) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 21:25:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel filter for '69 2000 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1311395106.77000.YahooMailRC@web112715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Samething happened to me today. I ended up 4 blocks short. Maybe its the heat. I bought a generic at Oreilly. Just matched the one I had. I'm back in business. Paul S ________________________________ From: D Riedel To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, July 22, 2011 12:15:26 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel filter for '69 2000 Seems like I've managed to run more crud into my fuel filter... barely made it home last night with the alternating zoom/sputter. Ack. Can anyone tell me which Napa filter fits? I seem to recall the last filter I bought was way more expensive than most other styles. I'm hoping there is a generic filter available. thanks -- Dave Riedel '69 2000 Victoria, BC ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/utahltps at yahoo.com From sumton at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 23 19:31:40 2011 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 20:31:40 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel filter for '69 2000 In-Reply-To: <1311395106.77000.YahooMailRC@web112715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1311395106.77000.YahooMailRC@web112715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8D0B3DEEC2314E7AB894154A07EDE944@ranteer.local> were those short blocks or long blocks? -------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Strahl" Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 11:25 PM To: "D Riedel" ; Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel filter for '69 2000 > Samething happened to me today. I ended up 4 blocks short. Maybe its the > heat. > I bought a generic at Oreilly. Just matched the one I had. I'm back in > business. > > Paul S From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 21:16:45 2011 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (cour.jpeg at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 03:16:45 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel filter for '69 2000 In-Reply-To: <8D0B3DEEC2314E7AB894154A07EDE944@ranteer.local> References: <1311395106.77000.YahooMailRC@web112715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><8D0B3DEEC2314E7AB894154A07EDE944@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <1355363116-1311477404-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1255526026-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> Not engine blocks you ninny ! Blocks like you put the car up on. Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: "oliver" Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 20:31:40 To: Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel filter for '69 2000 were those short blocks or long blocks? -------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Strahl" Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 11:25 PM To: "D Riedel" ; Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel filter for '69 2000 > Samething happened to me today. I ended up 4 blocks short. Maybe its the > heat. > I bought a generic at Oreilly. Just matched the one I had. I'm back in > business. > > Paul S ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com From relehnherr at hotmail.com Sat Jul 23 21:39:12 2011 From: relehnherr at hotmail.com (Rick Lehnherr) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:39:12 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel filter for '69 2000 In-Reply-To: <1355363116-1311477404-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1255526026-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> References: <1311395106.77000.YahooMailRC@web112715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8D0B3DEEC2314E7AB894154A07EDE944@ranteer.local> <1355363116-1311477404-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1255526026-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: Then would they not be "tall blocks" no long or short... On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:23 PM, cour.jpeg at gmail.com wrote: > Not engine blocks you ninny ! > Blocks like you put the car up on. > > > Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg > > -----Original Message----- > From: "oliver" > Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 20:31:40 > To: > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel filter for '69 2000 > > were those short blocks or long blocks? > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Paul Strahl" > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 11:25 PM > To: "D Riedel" ; > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel filter for '69 2000 > >> Samething happened to me today. I ended up 4 blocks short. Maybe its the >> heat. >> I bought a generic at Oreilly. Just matched the one I had. I'm back in >> business. >> >> Paul S > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/relehnherr at hotmail.com From spedlyy at comcast.net Sat Jul 23 22:23:07 2011 From: spedlyy at comcast.net (Spedlyy) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:23:07 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] exhaust manifold leak In-Reply-To: <496920434-1310259480-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1194658406-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> References: <1310250559.22900.YahooMailRC@web112714.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <496920434-1310259480-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1194658406-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <321CEA0C5DCF49DDA410A69E0BF9C6EE@XPS2008> Paul, I've been told that installing a short section of braided flex pipe (common on modern front wheel drive cars) just below the flange will help to relieve stress on the exhaust manifold collection point. I've had the crack in my manifold braised, and I've replaced my motor mounts, but I haven't had the flex pipe installed yet. Ed York '68 1600 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Paul Strahl" ; ; Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] exhaust manifold leak > Hi Paul, from another Paul w- a 1600. > > There is a typical failure near the collection point, at the first clamp > to the pipe under the seat. > > Sometimes the manifold will crack there because of too much movement > caused by a missing or failed scissors clamp where the first pipe passes > through the frame. > > You can see it by getting underneath. > > > Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Strahl > Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 > 15:29:19 > To: > Subject: [Roadsters] exhaust manifold leak > > Hey I have owned my 1970 1600 for almost a year now. No known > modifications. > It > has been running great until just now. It became really loud. I had a > muffler > shop look at it a replace a pipe just before the muffler. It sounds > like normal > now. The muffler shop guy called to my attention that the > exhast mainfold had a > leak and he would have to take it apart to see if it > was a gasket, crack, > warping or what was going on. So I have a couple > questions for the guys who run > these cars and know about them. 1) How can one > tell the that the manifold leaks > and where it is leaking? 2) Is this a common > problem 3) What are common > solutions? > > Thanks in advance. > Paul S > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/spedlyy at comcast.net From jake7140 at yahoo.com Sat Jul 23 23:08:11 2011 From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 4 Speed slop fix In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1311484091.18053.YahooMailNeo@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Can SlowBoy's fix of a through bolt to tighten up side to side slop (http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.TakingSlopOutOfA4Spe ed)be done with the tranny in-car? If someone knows, that would save some time. Thanks. Steve Steve's racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society www.elrss.com ________________________________ From erik.isaksen at gmail.com Sun Jul 24 06:29:16 2011 From: erik.isaksen at gmail.com (Eric A. Isaacson) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 07:29:16 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Spotted: Twin '68 2000's in Sister Bay Message-ID: When: Saturday evening Where: Kristoffer's in Sister Bay, WI What: Two 1968 2000's, a red one (with a white soft top) and a blue one (with silver accents) Wow: Two beautiful 2000's across from the marina lit by a terrific sunset After seeing practically every exotic (on a daily basis over the summer), I've finally seen a Datsun Roadster in Door County. What a thrill. I look forward to meeting you and going for a nice cruise. Eric Isaacson 1968 1600 Sister Bay, WI From tputland at charter.net Sun Jul 24 07:02:43 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 09:02:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Spotted: Twin '68 2000's in Sister Bay Message-ID: <1364d4f.b729a.1315c3d8df7.Webtop.44@charter.net> Sound like two of Mike and Joy Johnston's fleet. They live near Sheboygan. The red one is the one I drove to the Concours d' Elegance in Elkhart Lake last weekend. Tim On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Eric A. Isaacson wrote: > When: Saturday evening > Where: Kristoffer's in Sister Bay, WI > What: Two 1968 2000's, a red one (with a white soft top) and a blue > one > (with silver accents) > Wow: Two beautiful 2000's across from the marina lit by a terrific > sunset > > After seeing practically every exotic (on a daily basis over the > summer), > I've finally seen a Datsun Roadster in Door County. What a thrill. > > I look forward to meeting you and going for a nice cruise. > > Eric Isaacson > 1968 1600 > Sister Bay, WI > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From tputland at charter.net Sun Jul 24 07:13:30 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 09:13:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] OT prayers for Norway Message-ID: <17d4089.b7393.1315c476f34.Webtop.44@charter.net> Lars, hope you weren't directly affected by the tragedy in your country. Our prayers to you and yours. Tim and Connie Putland From tputland at charter.net Sun Jul 24 07:21:33 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 09:21:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Spotted: Twin '68 2000's in Sister Bay Message-ID: <5b97f3.b742a.1315c4ecf11.Webtop.44@charter.net> Verified. It was Mike and Joy. On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Tim wrote: > Sound like two of Mike and Joy Johnston's fleet. They live near > Sheboygan. The red one is the one I drove to the Concours d' Elegance > in Elkhart Lake last weekend. > > Tim > > > On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Eric A. Isaacson wrote: > >> When: Saturday evening >> Where: Kristoffer's in Sister Bay, WI >> What: Two 1968 2000's, a red one (with a white soft top) and a blue >> one >> (with silver accents) >> Wow: Two beautiful 2000's across from the marina lit by a terrific >> sunset >> >> After seeing practically every exotic (on a daily basis over the >> summer), >> I've finally seen a Datsun Roadster in Door County. What a thrill. >> >> I look forward to meeting you and going for a nice cruise. >> >> Eric Isaacson >> 1968 1600 >> Sister Bay, WI >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sun Jul 24 08:28:47 2011 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 07:28:47 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 4 Speed slop fix In-Reply-To: <1311484091.18053.YahooMailNeo@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1311484091.18053.YahooMailNeo@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I believe so Steve. Seems I read that on 311. Linda Sent from my iPod On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:08 PM, Steve Jacobson wrote: > Can SlowBoy's fix of a through bolt to tighten up side to side slop > (http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.TakingSlopOutOfA4Spe > ed)be done with the tranny in-car? If someone knows, that would save some > time. Thanks. > > > Steve > > Steve's racing web site > www.NoNameRacing.com > Elkhart > Lake Racing & Sipping Society > www.elrss.com > > ________________________________ > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From relehnherr at hotmail.com Sun Jul 24 08:41:57 2011 From: relehnherr at hotmail.com (Rick Lehnherr) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 09:41:57 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 4 Speed slop fix In-Reply-To: References: <1311484091.18053.YahooMailNeo@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sent from my iPad On Jul 24, 2011, at 9:29 AM, ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: > I believe so Steve. Seems I read that on 311. > Linda > > Sent from my iPod > > On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:08 PM, Steve Jacobson wrote: > >> Can SlowBoy's fix of a through bolt to tighten up side to side slop >> > (http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.TakingSlopOutOfA4Spe >> ed)be done with the tranny in-car? If someone knows, that would save some >> time. Thanks. >> >> >> Steve >> >> Steve's racing web site >> www.NoNameRacing.com >> Elkhart >> Lake Racing & Sipping Society >> www.elrss.com >> >> ________________________________ >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne > t > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/relehnherr at hotmail.com From Lars.Tungen at abaris.no Mon Jul 25 03:01:30 2011 From: Lars.Tungen at abaris.no (Lars Tungen) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 11:01:30 +0200 Subject: [Roadsters] OT prayers for Norway Message-ID: <651A6D96C0187944BABC525CAF5B97BD0CD1684139@MBXVS04.hosting01.active24.com> Hi, Thank you for your support. My familiy is safe and we are not directly affected. The situation is unbelievable and hard to grasp. But the mad man is going to jail and he will not get the revolution he was planning. Regards, Lars Tungen Norway On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Tim wrote: >Lars, hope you weren't directly affected by the tragedy in your country. >Our prayers to you and yours. > >Tim and Connie Putland From rksmith46 at hotmail.com Mon Jul 25 12:18:44 2011 From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 14:18:44 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Towing question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hi steb, well ive flat towed my 69 2000, probably 3-4,000 miles. there are 2 things: you cant back up( i guess you knew that). and, when going from road to parking lot, or parking lot to road, if there is a slope there, sometimes the steering wheel, in the roadster, will spin all the way to one side and stay. then, you will find your self pulling a tire screeching roadster down the road. this only happened to me a couple of times, and it's obvious, so you just go back and straighten the wheel out. it only happens at slow speeds, and never happens when going straight. you have to allow the steering wheel to turn a little, so it can follow the tow car around corners. so, dont be tempted to tie the steering wheel down, or to use the steering lock. also, i agree with tying the two bumper brackets together with a bar, for ridgidity.(triangulate the tow bar) bob smith, ohio p.s., i just noticed you mentioned the drive shaft. here's good news, NO, you dont have to disconnect the drive shaft. its a 5 speed, and it will not hurt it, to flat tow the car. > From: stebharvey at ameritech.net > To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 05:11:42 -0500 > Subject: [Roadsters] Towing question > > Group, > > Has anyone ever towed their roadster behind a motor home? I'm thinking about > doing this myself. It appears that I would need to build the attachment > points on the front of the frame myself since there aren't any manufactures > that make attachment brackets anymore for our little cars. I would also have > to disconnect the driveshaft when towing plus install a light and indicator > connection to the car. Any other considerations that I've missed? > > Thanks > > Steb > Milwaukee > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rksmith46 at hotmail.com From fairlady66 at gmail.com Mon Jul 25 14:25:40 2011 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:25:40 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Multi-State Grand Datsun Classic Message-ID: The First Multi-State GRAND Datsun Classic is taking place October 8, 2011 at the Gateway to the Grand Canyon in Williams Arizona. Registration opens August 1, 2011. Open to ALL 1983 or older Datsuns! Do you know a Datsun owner in CA, NV, AZ, UT, CO, NM that would like to join us? Pass the word so far the response has been good and we are looking forward to a great time. For more information log on to www.socalroc.net There is no registration fee, just a donation is asked for of any size to help with cost of the event. Any left over funds will be put towards the 4th Annual SoCalROC Show-&-Shine Toy Drive on November 6, 2011. Hope to see a great turn out in Williams! -- If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Datsun, then you are lucky enough. From tputland at charter.net Tue Jul 26 06:11:35 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 08:11:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] couple Datsuns in a field auction--Nebraska Message-ID: <5c12498b.7669a.131665b75c2.Webtop.47@charter.net> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/07/25/150-car-grab-bag-nebraska-farm-and-barn-auction/ Someone (anyone) to the rescue?!?!?! From ljordan704 at netscape.net Tue Jul 26 08:45:32 2011 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 07:45:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] couple Datsuns in a field auction--Nebraska In-Reply-To: <5c12498b.7669a.131665b75c2.Webtop.47@charter.net> References: <5c12498b.7669a.131665b75c2.Webtop.47@charter.net> Message-ID: <3CF7873C-5484-4AFF-BD33-7D17BBD4EDF6@netscape.net> Read the comments, they are hilarious! Linda Sent from my iPod On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:11 AM, Tim wrote: > http://bringatrailer.com/2011/07/25/150-car-grab-bag-nebraska-farm-and-barn-a uction/ > > Someone (anyone) to the rescue?!?!?! > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From rabush2000 at hotmail.com Wed Jul 27 20:37:41 2011 From: rabush2000 at hotmail.com (richard bush) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 02:37:41 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Ebay Datsun Fairlady for Sale In-Reply-To: <5459FF0300764BA495320B935CFB25C1@wilhouse> References: <5459FF0300764BA495320B935CFB25C1@wilhouse> Message-ID: Does anyone on the list know the following car: 180699239956 ? It is a '68 2000 from San Diego. It has been re-listed, selling for just over $10,000. Thanks, R A Bush, 4806 Eck Lane, Austin Texas 78734/cell: 512 574 8081 From jklingman at stny.rr.com Fri Jul 29 12:03:22 2011 From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (jklingman at stny.rr.com) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:03:22 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for Fred Davidson Message-ID: <20110729180322.CUKEQ.59492.root@hrndva-web25-z01> Lost address/contact list Please contact me off list John and Gloria From geegc at aol.com Fri Jul 29 12:38:09 2011 From: geegc at aol.com (Geegc) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 14:38:09 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] back up hood latch release In-Reply-To: <20110729180322.CUKEQ.59492.root@hrndva-web25-z01> References: <20110729180322.CUKEQ.59492.root@hrndva-web25-z01> Message-ID: <8CE1C35CC5E9E09-4E18-85359@webmail-d182.sysops.aol.com> I recall someone in the past described a hood latch back up release accessible from under the car for the 1 in 1000 chance that the main latch release fails. I know how to do it for the trunk. Anyone remember how it was done, and with what materials? Thanks Gary C 1966 1600 From noji-1 at pacbell.net Fri Jul 29 13:34:59 2011 From: noji-1 at pacbell.net (dana nojima) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 12:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Boone Dizzy Message-ID: <1311968099.55753.YahooMailRC@web83406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I was looking to do a tune up and was wondering what is the correct cap and rotor? I'm guessing that it is different than original. I have also been using the original NGK specified plugs. Thanks, Dana From sandhoff at csus.edu Fri Jul 29 14:22:27 2011 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 13:22:27 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] back up hood latch release In-Reply-To: <8CE1C35CC5E9E09-4E18-85359@webmail-d182.sysops.aol.com> References: <20110729180322.CUKEQ.59492.root@hrndva-web25-z01> Message-ID: <4E32B413.1802.1F147B@localhost> > I recall someone in the past described a hood latch back up release > accessible from under the car for the 1 in 1000 chance that the main > latch release fails. > > Anyone remember how it was done, and with what materials? A straightened coat hanger, snaked thru a firewall grommet, with a formed 'handle' inside, under the driver's side dash. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From rabush2000 at hotmail.com Fri Jul 29 14:47:36 2011 From: rabush2000 at hotmail.com (richard bush) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 20:47:36 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] San Antonio In-Reply-To: <4E32B413.1802.1F147B@localhost> References: <20110729180322.CUKEQ.59492.root@hrndva-web25-z01>, <4E32B413.1802.1F147B@localhost> Message-ID: I had BBQ last year with a guy from San Antonio - I'm in Austin. I have lost his contact details. If you are on the list, can you please email me. Thanks, Rick R A Bush, 4806 Eck Lane, Austin Texas 78734/cell: 512 574 8081 > From: sandhoff at csus.edu > To: geegc at aol.com > Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 13:22:27 -0700 > CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] back up hood latch release > > > I recall someone in the past described a hood latch back up release > > accessible from under the car for the 1 in 1000 chance that the main > > latch release fails. > > > > Anyone remember how it was done, and with what materials? > > A straightened coat hanger, snaked thru a firewall grommet, with a > formed 'handle' inside, under the driver's side dash. > > -- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rabush2000 at hotmail.com From sumton at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 29 17:11:13 2011 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:11:13 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] cutting carpet In-Reply-To: References: <20110729180322.CUKEQ.59492.root@hrndva-web25-z01>, <4E32B413.1802.1F147B@localhost> Message-ID: <3FC11A9A7800470E83310B14B8E51997@ranteer.local> Hi, all. I have some carpet and padding I inherited with this project. Although its probably temporary (however you define that . . .) I was wondering if anyone has a recommendation on what to cut carpet with? thanks! From geegc at aol.com Fri Jul 29 17:51:33 2011 From: geegc at aol.com (geegc at aol.com) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 23:51:33 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] cutting carpet In-Reply-To: <3FC11A9A7800470E83310B14B8E51997@ranteer.local> References: <20110729180322.CUKEQ.59492.root@hrndva-web25-z01>, <4E32B413.1802.1F147B@localhost><3FC11A9A7800470E83310B14B8E51997@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <891625681-1311983492-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-434162832-@b1.c2.bise6.blackberry> Box cutters work from the back side. Gary Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: "oliver" Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:11:13 To: Subject: [Roadsters] cutting carpet Hi, all. I have some carpet and padding I inherited with this project. Although its probably temporary (however you define that . . .) I was wondering if anyone has a recommendation on what to cut carpet with? thanks! ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/geegc at aol.com From aultgc at att.net Fri Jul 29 19:38:07 2011 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 20:38:07 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] cutting carpet References: <20110729180322.CUKEQ.59492.root@hrndva-web25-z01>, <4E32B413.1802.1F147B@localhost><3FC11A9A7800470E83310B14B8E51997@ranteer.local> <891625681-1311983492-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-434162832-@b1.c2.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: Oliver, I'd put it face down, as Gary suggests, and cut through the backing with a box cutter. I would place it on a piece of plywood, and use another piece of plywood (or other straightedge) on top to guide the knife. You can use a heavy-duty scissors to cut curves. Gary (too) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "oliver" ; ; Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] cutting carpet > Box cutters work from the back side. > > Gary > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > -----Original Message----- > From: "oliver" > Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:11:13 > To: > Subject: [Roadsters] cutting carpet > > Hi, all. > > I have some carpet and padding I inherited with this project. Although > its > probably temporary (however you define that . . .) I was wondering if > anyone has a recommendation on what to cut carpet with? > > thanks! > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/geegc at aol.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From koolkattski at gmail.com Fri Jul 29 19:48:24 2011 From: koolkattski at gmail.com (jake kolasinski) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:48:24 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Hello to all. Message-ID: First I would like to thank everyone for their excellent posts. My father and I have a 67 spl311 which we have had for nearly 20 years. We have both spent countless hours on it and are close to completing and is more of a custom now. Again, thanks for the posts and look forward to more. From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com Fri Jul 29 22:26:37 2011 From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 21:26:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Dyno Results Message-ID: <1311999997.81971.androidMobile@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> RWHP: 112.62; RWTQ: 117.82 H20, 40mm Solexes, big valves in massaged head, Boone eDizzy, MSD 6A, coated and wrapped header, electric fan. From 9laser3 at bright.net Sat Jul 30 08:36:02 2011 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 10:36:02 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] DUH? & the glen Message-ID: <000501cc4ec6$02e49e10$08adda30$@net> The DUH is for me. At my age I should start writing things down instead of depending on a fading memory. Developed a bad miss in the KA24E in my roadster a few weeks back. I got lots of suggestions on what the cause might be and I attacked most of them. I cleaned all the sensor connections, cleaned the MAF, replaced the cap & rotor, and while it was in the garage, I flushed the cooling system. This left me with an engine that wouldn't idle and surged when I tried to drive. Totally frustrated and beginning to consider sticking a R16 back under the hood, I closed up the garage and walked away. This morning, before the heat index hits 100 again, I went back out to the garage and took a look under the hood again. Hmmm, no wires going to the MAF? Gee, you think that might cause a problem or two. Plug the wires back in and fire it up. No, still a problem, so I kept looking. After going over everything under the hood, TWICE, I found another sensor unplugged and two hoses disconnected from the intake. Plugged everything back in, and gee, it runs just fine. Amazing how well all the smoke in those wires flows just fine when you bother to hook them all up! I think an afternoon ice cream run is in order today, but not the same way I went two weeks ago! As for the glen, whose going to the vintage races in September? I was up there several years ago with Tom Phelan. Tom has promised to resurrect his vintage 2000 race roadster and signed me on for crew again this trip. I'm looking forward to seeing some old friends again, and this time driving my roadster, not a truck! Paul Ohio From 9laser3 at bright.net Sat Jul 30 08:50:44 2011 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 10:50:44 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] DUH? & the glen Message-ID: <001901cc4ec8$105148d0$30f3da70$@net> WHOSE? How about "who's", as in who is. Add another DUH under my name! And Thanks to all that offered help. Paul Ohio From: Paul [mailto:9laser3 at bright.net] Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 10:36 AM To: 'datsun-roadsters' Subject: DUH? & the glen The DUH is for me. At my age I should start writing things down instead of depending on a fading memory. Developed a bad miss in the KA24E in my roadster a few weeks back. I got lots of suggestions on what the cause might be and I attacked most of them. I cleaned all the sensor connections, cleaned the MAF, replaced the cap & rotor, and while it was in the garage, I flushed the cooling system. This left me with an engine that wouldn't idle and surged when I tried to drive. Totally frustrated and beginning to consider sticking a R16 back under the hood, I closed up the garage and walked away. This morning, before the heat index hits 100 again, I went back out to the garage and took a look under the hood again. Hmmm, no wires going to the MAF? Gee, you think that might cause a problem or two. Plug the wires back in and fire it up. No, still a problem, so I kept looking. After going over everything under the hood, TWICE, I found another sensor unplugged and two hoses disconnected from the intake. Plugged everything back in, and gee, it runs just fine. Amazing how well all the smoke in those wires flows just fine when you bother to hook them all up! I think an afternoon ice cream run is in order today, but not the same way I went two weeks ago! As for the glen, whose going to the vintage races in September? I was up there several years ago with Tom Phelan. Tom has promised to resurrect his vintage 2000 race roadster and signed me on for crew again this trip. I'm looking forward to seeing some old friends again, and this time driving my roadster, not a truck! Paul Ohio From oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com Sat Jul 30 09:20:25 2011 From: oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com (Matthew Cox) Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 08:20:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] cutting carpet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1312039225.43799.YahooMailClassic@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> There are also carpet cutting scissors that you can buy at flooring stores or probably most big box home stores. They have better control and are more precise than blades if you need that for the project, but a blade might work just fine. > > Hi, all. > > I have some carpet and padding I inherited with this project. Although its > probably temporary (however you define that . . .) I was wondering if > anyone has a recommendation on what to cut carpet with? > > thanks! > ________________________________________ From fred.davidson at diversia.ca Sat Jul 30 15:55:39 2011 From: fred.davidson at diversia.ca (Fred Davidson) Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:55:39 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] DUH? & the glen In-Reply-To: <000501cc4ec6$02e49e10$08adda30$@net> References: <000501cc4ec6$02e49e10$08adda30$@net> Message-ID: <001101cc4f03$6bee3050$43ca90f0$@davidson@diversia.ca> Paul: The Glen is on as usual, organized by Elaine Halsted at Elaine.Halsted at dss.virginia.gov. As you probably already know, this year Datsun/Nissan at both the GP Festiaval on Friday as well as at the SVRA races all weekend. The Watkins Glen village GP Festival has the Tour de Marque, Datsun/Nissan this year. There are still spaces left, actually quite a few. You can visit http://grandprixfestival.com/marque.html for information. This is the 25th Datsun Roadster meet at Watkins Glen, the 24th Annniversary if you like to count that way. Good to hear car is running Paul and happy to hear Tom is coming to the Glen. Fred 1969 Datsun 2000 , white Ontario -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: July-30-11 10:36 AM To: 'datsun-roadsters' Subject: [Roadsters] DUH? & the glen The DUH is for me. At my age I should start writing things down instead of depending on a fading memory. Developed a bad miss in the KA24E in my roadster a few weeks back. I got lots of suggestions on what the cause might be and I attacked most of them. I cleaned all the sensor connections, cleaned the MAF, replaced the cap & rotor, and while it was in the garage, I flushed the cooling system. This left me with an engine that wouldn't idle and surged when I tried to drive. Totally frustrated and beginning to consider sticking a R16 back under the hood, I closed up the garage and walked away. This morning, before the heat index hits 100 again, I went back out to the garage and took a look under the hood again. Hmmm, no wires going to the MAF? Gee, you think that might cause a problem or two. Plug the wires back in and fire it up. No, still a problem, so I kept looking. After going over everything under the hood, TWICE, I found another sensor unplugged and two hoses disconnected from the intake. Plugged everything back in, and gee, it runs just fine. Amazing how well all the smoke in those wires flows just fine when you bother to hook them all up! I think an afternoon ice cream run is in order today, but not the same way I went two weeks ago! As for the glen, whose going to the vintage races in September? I was up there several years ago with Tom Phelan. Tom has promised to resurrect his vintage 2000 race roadster and signed me on for crew again this trip. I'm looking forward to seeing some old friends again, and this time driving my roadster, not a truck! Paul Ohio ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/fred.davidson at diversi a.ca From jake7140 at yahoo.com Sat Jul 30 15:59:51 2011 From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 14:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] The Glen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1312063191.56415.YahooMailNeo@web37907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Paul, Look for the red BSR 33 car of Mike Unger . It's the ex-Dick Tillinger original BSR 67.5 2000 that Mike brought (is bringing) back to original Sharp livery. Take pics and post or send my way. He's wearing my graphics. Hope he gets it done in time. Have a good time! Steve Steve's racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society www.elrss.com ________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 10:36:02 -0400 From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net> To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Subject: [Roadsters] DUH? & the glen Message-ID: <000501cc4ec6$02e49e10$08adda30$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" As for the glen, whose going to the vintage races in September? I was up there several years ago with Tom Phelan. Tom has promised to resurrect his vintage 2000 race roadster and signed me on for crew again this trip. I'm looking forward to seeing some old friends again, and this time driving my roadster, not a truck! Paul Ohio From gboone70 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 31 20:39:18 2011 From: gboone70 at yahoo.com (Gary Boone) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 19:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Boone Dizzy In-Reply-To: <1311968099.55753.YahooMailRC@web83406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1311968099.55753.YahooMailRC@web83406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1312166358.47975.YahooMailNeo@web36305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cap and rotor for a 1982 Nissan 210 1.4 L engine. >________________________________ >From: dana nojima >To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 1:34 PM >Subject: [Roadsters] Boone Dizzy > >I was looking to do a tune up and was wondering what is the correct cap and >rotor? I'm guessing that it is different than original. I have also been >using >the original NGK specified plugs. > >Thanks, Dana >________________________________________