From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com Thu Dec 1 04:25:39 2011 From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 06:25:39 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Fender mirror? Message-ID: Some how I doubt this fender mirror was JDM! http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/ctd/2707678815.html Paul Ohio From chalsted at comcast.net Fri Dec 2 05:39:14 2011 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 12:39:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] deadbeat ebay bidder down under and unable to leave neg feedback- BEWARE Message-ID: <2062262163.353668.1322829554731.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I've had a bidder from Australia win the bids on 3 of my ebay auctions now this year for a total of almost $300. his ebay name is iljvhmcmc same guy that bid and didn't pay earlier on this year...he has 17 feedbacks- 100% positive feedback. so I opened non-paying bidder cases in ebay to get a refund of final value fees...still no contact from Mr. McCasker. tried to leave negative feedback and only options were "will leave feedback later" and positive feedback... closed the cases after waiting the appropriate time, went to leave negative feedback and was unable to leave feedback because "feedback has been disabled because payment was not recorded" WTF??? so he beats me out of payment for the last 2 auctions and still gets to walk away with 100% positive feedback? this is screwed. if you come across this individual on ebay or in person, turn and run the other way. he lives in Brisbane Queensland 4101 Craig From tputland at charter.net Fri Dec 2 05:47:05 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 07:47:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] deadbeat ebay bidder down under and unable to leave neg feedback- BEWARE Message-ID: <656a6241.11d14c.133fed053e6.Webtop.49@charter.net> Yea, it sucks. Sellers are no longer allowed to leave negative feedback under any circumstances. And buyers can leave what ever they want, even when they don't first contact seller to resolve a problem. Don't ask why I say this. Evilbay sucks. Tim On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 6:39 AM, chalsted at comcast.net wrote: > I've had a bidder from Australia win the bids on 3 of my ebay auctions > now this year for a total of almost $300. his ebay name is iljvhmcmc > same guy that bid and didn't pay earlier on this year...he has 17 > feedbacks- 100% positive feedback. so I opened non-paying bidder cases > in ebay to get a refund of final value fees...still no contact from > Mr. McCasker. tried to leave negative feedback and only options were > "will leave feedback later" and positive feedback... closed the cases > after waiting the appropriate time, went to leave negative feedback > and was unable to leave feedback because "feedback has been disabled > because payment was not recorded" WTF??? so he beats me out of payment > for the last 2 auctions and still gets to walk away with 100% positive > feedback? this is screwed. if you come across this individual on ebay > or in person, turn and run the other way. he lives in Brisbane > Queensland 4101 Craig ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From futofab at gsinet.net Fri Dec 2 13:14:47 2011 From: futofab at gsinet.net (David Patten) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 15:14:47 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] deadbeat ebay bidder down under and unable to leave neg feedback- BEWARE In-Reply-To: <656a6241.11d14c.133fed053e6.Webtop.49@charter.net> References: <656a6241.11d14c.133fed053e6.Webtop.49@charter.net> Message-ID: I beleive you can ban buyers from bidding on your listings. Might prevent him from crapping on your parade again. -- Dave Patten FutoFab, LLC 199 Stark Hwy So Dunbarton, NH 03046 Website - www.FutoFab.com e-mail - dave at futofab.com On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Tim wrote: > Yea, it sucks. Sellers are no longer allowed to leave negative feedback > under any circumstances. And buyers can leave what ever they want, even > when they don't first contact seller to resolve a problem. Don't ask why I > say this. > > Evilbay sucks. > > Tim > > > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 6:39 AM, chalsted at comcast.net wrote: > > I've had a bidder from Australia win the bids on 3 of my ebay auctions >> now this year for a total of almost $300. his ebay name is iljvhmcmc same >> guy that bid and didn't pay earlier on this year...he has 17 feedbacks- >> 100% positive feedback. so I opened non-paying bidder cases in ebay to get >> a refund of final value fees...still no contact from Mr. McCasker. tried to >> leave negative feedback and only options were "will leave feedback later" >> and positive feedback... closed the cases after waiting the appropriate >> time, went to leave negative feedback and was unable to leave feedback >> because "feedback has been disabled because payment was not recorded" >> WTF??? so he beats me out of payment for the last 2 auctions and still gets >> to walk away with 100% positive feedback? this is screwed. if you come >> across this individual on ebay or in person, turn and run the other way. he >> lives in Brisbane Queensland 4101 Craig ______________________________** >> __________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/datsun-roadsters/** >> tputland at charter.net >> > ______________________________**__________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/datsun-roadsters/** > futofab at gsinet.net From ljordan704 at netscape.net Fri Dec 2 19:36:14 2011 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 18:36:14 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] deadbeat ebay bidder down under and unable to leave neg feedback- BEWARE In-Reply-To: References: <656a6241.11d14c.133fed053e6.Webtop.49@charter.net> Message-ID: I'm surprised that EBay has done this. When the word gets out more it will be intreresting to see what happens. Linda Sent from my iPod On Dec 2, 2011, at 12:14 PM, David Patten wrote: > I beleive you can ban buyers from bidding on your listings. Might prevent > him from crapping on your parade again. > -- > Dave Patten > FutoFab, LLC > 199 Stark Hwy So > Dunbarton, NH 03046 > > Website - www.FutoFab.com > e-mail - dave at futofab.com > > > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Tim wrote: > >> Yea, it sucks. Sellers are no longer allowed to leave negative feedback >> under any circumstances. And buyers can leave what ever they want, even >> when they don't first contact seller to resolve a problem. Don't ask why I >> say this. >> >> Evilbay sucks. >> >> Tim >> >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 6:39 AM, chalsted at comcast.net wrote: >> >> I've had a bidder from Australia win the bids on 3 of my ebay auctions >>> now this year for a total of almost $300. his ebay name is iljvhmcmc same >>> guy that bid and didn't pay earlier on this year...he has 17 feedbacks- >>> 100% positive feedback. so I opened non-paying bidder cases in ebay to get >>> a refund of final value fees...still no contact from Mr. McCasker. tried to >>> leave negative feedback and only options were "will leave feedback later" >>> and positive feedback... closed the cases after waiting the appropriate >>> time, went to leave negative feedback and was unable to leave feedback >>> because "feedback has been disabled because payment was not recorded" >>> WTF??? so he beats me out of payment for the last 2 auctions and still gets >>> to walk away with 100% positive feedback? this is screwed. if you come >>> across this individual on ebay or in person, turn and run the other way. he >>> lives in Brisbane Queensland 4101 Craig ______________________________** >>> __________ >>> >>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/datsun-roadsters/** >>> tputland at charter.net >>> >> ______________________________**__________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/datsun-roadsters/** >> futofab at gsinet.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From aultgc at att.net Fri Dec 2 19:58:45 2011 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 20:58:45 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] deadbeat ebay bidder down under and unable to leave neg feedback- BEWARE References: <656a6241.11d14c.133fed053e6.Webtop.49@charter.net> Message-ID: My experiences attempting to get any problems corrected through eBay has been totally negative. I have found eBay Customer Support to be completely useless, I believe deliberately so. They make so much money off their enterprise that they simply do not care about their customers. I agree: eBay sucks. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "ljordan704" To: "David Patten" Cc: Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] deadbeat ebay bidder down under and unable to leave neg feedback- BEWARE > I'm surprised that EBay has done this. When the word gets out more it will > be > intreresting to see what happens. > > Linda > > Sent from my iPod > > On Dec 2, 2011, at 12:14 PM, David Patten wrote: > >> I beleive you can ban buyers from bidding on your listings. Might prevent >> him from crapping on your parade again. >> -- >> Dave Patten >> FutoFab, LLC >> 199 Stark Hwy So >> Dunbarton, NH 03046 >> >> Website - www.FutoFab.com >> e-mail - dave at futofab.com >> >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Tim wrote: >> >>> Yea, it sucks. Sellers are no longer allowed to leave negative feedback >>> under any circumstances. And buyers can leave what ever they want, even >>> when they don't first contact seller to resolve a problem. Don't ask why >>> I >>> say this. >>> >>> Evilbay sucks. >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 6:39 AM, chalsted at comcast.net wrote: >>> >>> I've had a bidder from Australia win the bids on 3 of my ebay auctions >>>> now this year for a total of almost $300. his ebay name is iljvhmcmc >>>> same >>>> guy that bid and didn't pay earlier on this year...he has 17 feedbacks- >>>> 100% positive feedback. so I opened non-paying bidder cases in ebay to > get >>>> a refund of final value fees...still no contact from Mr. McCasker. >>>> tried > to >>>> leave negative feedback and only options were "will leave feedback >>>> later" >>>> and positive feedback... closed the cases after waiting the appropriate >>>> time, went to leave negative feedback and was unable to leave feedback >>>> because "feedback has been disabled because payment was not recorded" >>>> WTF??? so he beats me out of payment for the last 2 auctions and still > gets >>>> to walk away with 100% positive feedback? this is screwed. if you come >>>> across this individual on ebay or in person, turn and run the other >>>> way. > he >>>> lives in Brisbane Queensland 4101 Craig >>>> ______________________________** >>>> __________ >>>> >>>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net >>>> >>>> Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.**html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/datsun-roadsters/** >>>> > tputland at charter.net putland at charter.net> >>>> >>> ______________________________**__________ >>> >>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net >>> >>> Donate: >>> http://www.team.net/donate.**html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/datsun-roadsters/** >>> > futofab at gsinet.net ofab at gsinet.net> >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne > t > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From mark at dealermats.com Fri Dec 2 19:56:45 2011 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 21:56:45 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] deadbeat ebay bidder down under and unable to leave neg feedback- BEWARE In-Reply-To: References: <656a6241.11d14c.133fed053e6.Webtop.49@charter.net> Message-ID: <137DC2C1-D721-4C5E-8CB2-628466A795A2@dealermats.com> It's been that way for about a year, I am pretty sure the word is out :) They have no plans on changing it Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2011, at 9:36 PM, ljordan704 wrote: > I'm surprised that EBay has done this. When the word gets out more it will be > intreresting to see what happens. > > Linda > > Sent from my iPod > > On Dec 2, 2011, at 12:14 PM, David Patten wrote: > >> I beleive you can ban buyers from bidding on your listings. Might prevent >> him from crapping on your parade again. >> -- >> Dave Patten >> FutoFab, LLC >> 199 Stark Hwy So >> Dunbarton, NH 03046 >> >> Website - www.FutoFab.com >> e-mail - dave at futofab.com >> >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Tim wrote: >> >>> Yea, it sucks. Sellers are no longer allowed to leave negative feedback >>> under any circumstances. And buyers can leave what ever they want, even >>> when they don't first contact seller to resolve a problem. Don't ask why I >>> say this. >>> >>> Evilbay sucks. >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 6:39 AM, chalsted at comcast.net wrote: >>> >>> I've had a bidder from Australia win the bids on 3 of my ebay auctions >>>> now this year for a total of almost $300. his ebay name is iljvhmcmc same >>>> guy that bid and didn't pay earlier on this year...he has 17 feedbacks- >>>> 100% positive feedback. so I opened non-paying bidder cases in ebay to > get >>>> a refund of final value fees...still no contact from Mr. McCasker. tried > to >>>> leave negative feedback and only options were "will leave feedback later" >>>> and positive feedback... closed the cases after waiting the appropriate >>>> time, went to leave negative feedback and was unable to leave feedback >>>> because "feedback has been disabled because payment was not recorded" >>>> WTF??? so he beats me out of payment for the last 2 auctions and still > gets >>>> to walk away with 100% positive feedback? this is screwed. if you come >>>> across this individual on ebay or in person, turn and run the other way. > he >>>> lives in Brisbane Queensland 4101 Craig ______________________________** >>>> __________ >>>> >>>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net >>>> >>>> Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.**html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/datsun-roadsters/** >>>> > tputland at charter.net putland at charter.net> >>>> >>> ______________________________**__________ >>> >>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/datsun-roadsters/** >>> > futofab at gsinet.net ofab at gsinet.net> >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne > t > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/mark at dealermats.com From jsk977 at optonline.net Sat Dec 3 14:00:55 2011 From: jsk977 at optonline.net (Jerry Krakauer) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 16:00:55 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Hemmings Article In-Reply-To: <596146648-1321287240-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-760678769-@b11.c10.bise6.blackberry> References: <4EBF5DE1.8040206@internode.on.net> <596146648-1321287240-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-760678769-@b11.c10.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <000001ccb1fe$a62f9ed0$f28edc70$@net> The January issue of Hemmings Sports & Exotic Car is out. Check out the four page spread on my SRL311 00099. Jerry Krakauer From morrelljd at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 08:37:05 2011 From: morrelljd at gmail.com (Jeffrey Morrell) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 09:37:05 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Hemmings Article In-Reply-To: <000001ccb1fe$a62f9ed0$f28edc70$@net> References: <4EBF5DE1.8040206@internode.on.net> <596146648-1321287240-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-760678769-@b11.c10.bise6.blackberry> <000001ccb1fe$a62f9ed0$f28edc70$@net> Message-ID: > I am taking the heads off of my L16 swap this winter to investigate/repair > my burping carberators. Does anyone know anything about the availability of > hotter-than-stock cams? I bought my 1600 from Steve Harvey this > fall-neither of us are quite sure what engine is in there but it appears to > be an L16. Thanks in advance! ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/morrelljd at gmail.com From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 4 08:56:43 2011 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 07:56:43 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Hemmings Article In-Reply-To: References: <4EBF5DE1.8040206@internode.on.net> <596146648-1321287240-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-760678769-@b11.c10.bise6.blackberry> <000001ccb1fe$a62f9ed0$f28edc70$@net> Message-ID: "Heads"? Maybe that was a typo, but if there are more than one it's not an L16... ;^) I have the L16 out of my old PL521 pickup sitting in garage if anyone's looking for one -- it's got L18 valves and a slightly hotter than stock cam (specs unknown), has been out of the truck for about 20 years, needs a ring job. Gary McCormick San JosC), CA iPod On Dec 4, 2011, at 7:37 AM, Jeffrey Morrell wrote: >> I am taking the heads off of my L16 swap this winter to investigate/repair >> my burping carberators. Does anyone know anything about the availability of >> hotter-than-stock cams? I bought my 1600 from Steve Harvey this >> fall-neither of us are quite sure what engine is in there but it appears to >> be an L16. Thanks in advance! > > ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/morrelljd at gmail.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net From tputland at charter.net Sun Dec 4 15:23:22 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 17:23:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] hotter cam was hemmings article Message-ID: <4c9ea7e0.48c7a.1340b2ca4da.Webtop.46@charter.net> i believe the motor in the Roadster you bought from Steb is an L18 not L16. Someone should know about this motor even though it is not a Roadster motor. Tim On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Jeffrey Morrell wrote: >> I am taking the heads off of my L16 swap this winter to >> investigate/repair >> my burping carberators. Does anyone know anything about the >> availability of >> hotter-than-stock cams? I bought my 1600 from Steve Harvey this >> fall-neither of us are quite sure what engine is in there but it >> appears to >> be an L16. Thanks in advance! > > ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/morrelljd at gmail.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sun Dec 4 17:48:05 2011 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 16:48:05 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] hotter cam was hemmings article In-Reply-To: <4c9ea7e0.48c7a.1340b2ca4da.Webtop.46@charter.net> References: <4c9ea7e0.48c7a.1340b2ca4da.Webtop.46@charter.net> Message-ID: <00df01ccb2e7$8d32fbe0$a798f3a0$@net> Thanks for changing the Subject line to the actual subject, Tim. You can confirm whether L16, L18 or L20b by checking the engine number on the block: left-hand side when looking from the front of the engine, near to the back, above the starter motor, stamped into a machined-flat surface about 3 inches by an inch, near the top of the block (but below the head gasket and the spark plugs). I'm sure there's a few roadster folks that know L-series motors, but you'll find more L motor folks on the Bluebirds Google Groups, 510realm forums, and/or Ratsun forums. Do your homework and be prepared, meaning asking "what's a hotter cam?" is as useless as "what's the best tire?" People want to help, but you have to provide specific information/questions. At a minimum, you need to know what you have, and what you're trying to accomplish. A hotter cam for street use is totally different than racing, etc, etc. Cheers. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 2:23 PM To: Jeffrey Morrell Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] hotter cam was hemmings article i believe the motor in the Roadster you bought from Steb is an L18 not L16. Someone should know about this motor even though it is not a Roadster motor. Tim -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Morrell Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 7:37 AM To: Jerry Krakauer Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hemmings Article I am taking the heads off of my L16 swap this winter to investigate/repair my burping carburetors. Does anyone know anything about the availability of hotter-than-stock cams? I bought my 1600 from Steve Harvey this fall-neither of us are quite sure what engine is in there but it appears to be an L16. Thanks in advance! From morrelljd at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 18:23:01 2011 From: morrelljd at gmail.com (Jeffrey Morrell) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 19:23:01 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] hotter cam was hemmings article In-Reply-To: <00df01ccb2e7$8d32fbe0$a798f3a0$@net> References: <4c9ea7e0.48c7a.1340b2ca4da.Webtop.46@charter.net> <00df01ccb2e7$8d32fbe0$a798f3a0$@net> Message-ID: Sorry for the subject line and the lack of specificity. Not asking for recommendations for a specific hotter cam, only inquiring as the availability of them and possible sources. Thank you all anyway, have a great week. Jeff On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Pete Peters wrote: > Thanks for changing the Subject line to the actual subject, Tim. > > You can confirm whether L16, L18 or L20b by checking the engine number on > the block: left-hand side when looking from the front of the engine, near > to > the back, above the starter motor, stamped into a machined-flat surface > about 3 inches by an inch, near the top of the block (but below the head > gasket and the spark plugs). > > I'm sure there's a few roadster folks that know L-series motors, but you'll > find more L motor folks on the Bluebirds Google Groups, 510realm forums, > and/or Ratsun forums. > > Do your homework and be prepared, meaning asking "what's a hotter cam?" is > as useless as "what's the best tire?" People want to help, but you have to > provide specific information/questions. At a minimum, you need to know what > you have, and what you're trying to accomplish. A hotter cam for street use > is totally different than racing, etc, etc. > > Cheers. > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 2:23 PM > To: Jeffrey Morrell > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] hotter cam was hemmings article > > i believe the motor in the Roadster you bought from Steb is an L18 not L16. > > Someone should know about this motor even though it is not a Roadster > motor. > > Tim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeffrey > Morrell > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 7:37 AM > To: Jerry Krakauer > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hemmings Article > > I am taking the heads off of my L16 swap this winter to investigate/repair > my burping carburetors. Does anyone know anything about the availability of > hotter-than-stock cams? I bought my 1600 from Steve Harvey this > fall-neither > of us are quite sure what engine is in there but it appears to be an L16. > Thanks in advance! > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/morrelljd at gmail.com From futofab at gsinet.net Sun Dec 4 18:40:34 2011 From: futofab at gsinet.net (David Patten) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 20:40:34 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] hotter cam was hemmings article In-Reply-To: References: <4c9ea7e0.48c7a.1340b2ca4da.Webtop.46@charter.net> <00df01ccb2e7$8d32fbe0$a798f3a0$@net> Message-ID: Contact Dave Generous at Cam Techniques. *Cam Techniques 6791-E Whitfield Industrial Avenue Sarasota, FL 34243-5414* Phone: *941.727.5552* Fax: *941.727.7037* e-mail: sales at camtechniques.com website: http://www.camtechniques.com/index.html They heve been grinding Datsun L series cams for years. Don't let the lack of product info on their website fool you.Dave can suggest what you need. -- Dave Patten, Owner FutoFab, LLC 199 Stark Hwy So Dunbarton, NH 03046 Website - www.FutoFab.com e-mail - dave at futofab.com On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Jeffrey Morrell wrote: > Sorry for the subject line and the lack of specificity. Not asking for > recommendations for a specific hotter cam, only inquiring as the > availability of them and possible sources. Thank you all anyway, have a > great week. > Jeff > > On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Pete Peters > wrote: > > > Thanks for changing the Subject line to the actual subject, Tim. > > > > You can confirm whether L16, L18 or L20b by checking the engine number on > > the block: left-hand side when looking from the front of the engine, near > > to > > the back, above the starter motor, stamped into a machined-flat surface > > about 3 inches by an inch, near the top of the block (but below the head > > gasket and the spark plugs). > > > > I'm sure there's a few roadster folks that know L-series motors, but > you'll > > find more L motor folks on the Bluebirds Google Groups, 510realm forums, > > and/or Ratsun forums. > > > > Do your homework and be prepared, meaning asking "what's a hotter cam?" > is > > as useless as "what's the best tire?" People want to help, but you have > to > > provide specific information/questions. At a minimum, you need to know > what > > you have, and what you're trying to accomplish. A hotter cam for street > use > > is totally different than racing, etc, etc. > > > > Cheers. > > > > Pete > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim > > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 2:23 PM > > To: Jeffrey Morrell > > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] hotter cam was hemmings article > > > > i believe the motor in the Roadster you bought from Steb is an L18 not > L16. > > > > Someone should know about this motor even though it is not a Roadster > > motor. > > > > Tim > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeffrey > > Morrell > > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 7:37 AM > > To: Jerry Krakauer > > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hemmings Article > > > > I am taking the heads off of my L16 swap this winter to > investigate/repair > > my burping carburetors. Does anyone know anything about the availability > of > > hotter-than-stock cams? I bought my 1600 from Steve Harvey this > > fall-neither > > of us are quite sure what engine is in there but it appears to be an L16. > > Thanks in advance! > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/morrelljd at gmail.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/futofab at gsinet.net > > > -- Dave Patten, Owner FutoFab, LLC 199 Stark Hwy So Dunbarton, NH 03046 Website - www.FutoFab.com e-mail - dave at futofab.com From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sun Dec 4 18:51:13 2011 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 17:51:13 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] hotter cam was hemmings article In-Reply-To: References: <4c9ea7e0.48c7a.1340b2ca4da.Webtop.46@charter.net> <00df01ccb2e7$8d32fbe0$a798f3a0$@net> Message-ID: <00ec01ccb2f0$5f3adc90$1db095b0$@net> Are hotter cams available for L-series motors? Yes, from various sources. Depends on what you want. Again, do some homework. Google is your friend. Here's one link I found searching on "L18 camshaft": Here's an excellent article on Datsun L-motors cams written by Racer Brown in 1972: Hope this helps. Pete -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey Morrell [mailto:morrelljd at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 5:23 PM To: Pete Peters Cc: Datsun Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] hotter cam was hemmings article Sorry for the subject line and the lack of specificity. Not asking for recommendations for a specific hotter cam, only inquiring as the availability of them and possible sources. Thank you all anyway, have a great week. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 4:48 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] hotter cam was hemmings article Thanks for changing the Subject line to the actual subject, Tim. You can confirm whether L16, L18 or L20b by checking the engine number on the block: left-hand side when looking from the front of the engine, near to the back, above the starter motor, stamped into a machined-flat surface about 3 inches by an inch, near the top of the block (but below the head gasket and the spark plugs). I'm sure there's a few roadster folks that know L-series motors, but you'll find more L motor folks on the Bluebirds Google Groups, 510realm forums, and/or Ratsun forums. Do your homework and be prepared, meaning asking "what's a hotter cam?" is as useless as "what's the best tire?" People want to help, but you have to provide specific information/questions. At a minimum, you need to know what you have, and what you're trying to accomplish. A hotter cam for street use is totally different than racing, etc, etc. Cheers. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 2:23 PM To: Jeffrey Morrell Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] hotter cam was hemmings article i believe the motor in the Roadster you bought from Steb is an L18 not L16. Someone should know about this motor even though it is not a Roadster motor. Tim -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Morrell Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 7:37 AM To: Jerry Krakauer Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hemmings Article I am taking the heads off of my L16 swap this winter to investigate/repair my burping carburetors. Does anyone know anything about the availability of hotter-than-stock cams? I bought my 1600 from Steve Harvey this fall-neither of us are quite sure what engine is in there but it appears to be an L16. Thanks in advance! ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Mon Dec 5 09:15:39 2011 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 11:15:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] !970 Water pump smaller bolts Message-ID: <203d1.57deb627.3c0e482b@aol.com> Somehow we misplaced the two top bolts on the 1970 1600 water pump with spacer (no fan clutch). Anyone got the correct sizing for these bolts? Need ASAP as I am trying to get my son's car back on the road. Any help would greatly be appreciated. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) / _www.ZRoad.org_ (http://www.zroad.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1967 SPL311-09144 From james-culp at charter.net Mon Dec 5 09:39:48 2011 From: james-culp at charter.net (James Culp) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 11:39:48 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] !970 Water pump smaller bolts In-Reply-To: <203d1.57deb627.3c0e482b@aol.com> References: <203d1.57deb627.3c0e482b@aol.com> Message-ID: <656AE0AC-7AC0-4CCB-9375-E2AE1AFF08EF@charter.net> Hi Gary, I don't know the exact size but here's a way to determine it. Take one of the lower bolt's and thread it into both upper holes to confirm thread geometry. Then measure the depth of each hole, add the water pump flange through-hole thickness and gasket thickness and subtract the length of four threads. With the lower bolt in hand and these details you can find the appropriate grade and size. Sent from VZ iPhone On Dec 5, 2011, at 11:15 AM, BARTERDUDE at aol.com wrote: > Somehow we misplaced the two top bolts on the 1970 1600 water pump with > spacer (no fan clutch). Anyone got the correct sizing for these bolts? Need > ASAP as I am trying to get my son's car back on the road. Any help would > greatly be appreciated. > > Gary Lasater - Parker CO > founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) / > _www.ZRoad.org_ (http://www.zroad.org/) > 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) > 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) > 1964 SPL310-01289 > 1967 SPL311-09144 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/james-culp at charter.net From tputland at charter.net Mon Dec 5 09:55:51 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 11:55:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] slightly OT: check your purchases Message-ID: <2e0c0a91.513a6.1340f2728c1.Webtop.45@charter.net> This falls into the category of fool me once shame on you (and it wont happen again so no "fool me twice")... I bought a set of really nice used U20 head bolts a few years ago when I thought I might need to rebuild at least the top end my U20. When the box came I didn't open it. I just put it with my (then) growing stack of U20 parts for the potential rebuild. Fast forward a few years, an R16 stroker in progress, no more need for U20 parts and the start of the U20 part pile sell off to finance the stroker build: I opened the box of head bolts to take a picture and post on evilbay. What do I see? Only nine bolts. WTF! So, a lesson learned that shouldn't have been needed. Tim From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Mon Dec 5 11:56:45 2011 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 18:56:45 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] also slightly OT: Have a plan, 40 feels like 40 Message-ID: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F6601FA88D5@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> And along the lines of Tim's "lesson learned", When I first got my roadster I was very uncomfortable, and willed myself into thinking that removing the center console would provide more leg/knee room. I also did not care for the small grip size on the steering wheel, so got a 13" Grant Wheel with a big fat rim on it. The 13" wheel solved the knee room problem. I have since put the center console back in, (reupholstered from a pair of leather pants from the goodwill, but that is another OT story) but never the heater back in, and here in Southern CA just bundled up. (note: I am just a bit too tall to drive with the top up, so have done it so seldom that it is quite dangerous) And have since learned that I HATE underdash work with a passion. I "dismantled without a plan". Lesson: Don't dismantle without a plan. So fast forward to this weekend, and the wifey's van charging system took a crap over the weekend, and on most days "having to take the roadster to work" is akin to "power outage, have to eat the lobster and ice cream in the freezer before it goes bad." Not today. It was 40 degrees this morning. Weather channel windchill estimate says "40 feels like 40". All I gotta say is, "40 don't feel like 40 when you are going 80". Still a great way to start the day! She was a bit slow to start and get warmed up, which I interpret as me being scolded for not having her out of the garage enough. Happy roadstering! Fergus O Timing chains a-rattlin' in that holiday season! 69 2000 From tputland at charter.net Mon Dec 5 12:37:02 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 14:37:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] also slightly OT: Have a plan, 40 feels like 40 Message-ID: <9482899.526bf.1340fbab7f9.Webtop.48@charter.net> 40 degrees! Holy cow, how do you survive that? ;-) I was running around up in St Paul last Friday night in shorts and a T-shirt in wind chill well below freezing. (no, not in a topless car, but shorts is shorts. I don't get the long pants out until the windchill is under 5-10 degrees. As for Roadster leg room, I hear ya, at 6'5" it is tight for me as well. Thankfully Dad moved the seat rails back (one bolt is above an Xmember and hard to get to) but I am able to straighten my legs out...if I put my feet behind the pedals. HA! I can drive with the top up, but it is tight and much more fun, obvioulsy, with the top hanging on the garage wall! Charging issues suck. My S10 as well as my youngest daughter's old ford are both starting to have issues. Hopefully it will only be batteries. Tim On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:56 PM, O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS) wrote: > And along the lines of Tim's "lesson learned", > When I first got my roadster I was very uncomfortable, and willed > myself into > thinking that removing the center console would provide more leg/knee > room. > I also did not care for the small grip size on the steering wheel, so > got a > 13" Grant Wheel with a big fat rim on it. > The 13" wheel solved the knee room problem. > > I have since put the center console back in, (reupholstered from a > pair of > leather pants from the goodwill, but that is another OT story) > but never the heater back in, and here in Southern CA just bundled up. > (note: I am just a bit too tall to drive with the top up, so have done > it so > seldom that it is quite dangerous) > And have since learned that I HATE underdash work with a passion. > I "dismantled without a plan". Lesson: Don't dismantle without > a plan. > > So fast forward to this weekend, and the wifey's van charging system > took a > crap over the weekend, and on most days "having to take the roadster > to work" > is akin to "power outage, have to eat the lobster and ice cream in the > freezer > before it goes bad." > > Not today. It was 40 degrees this morning. Weather channel windchill > estimate says "40 feels like 40". > All I gotta say is, "40 don't feel like 40 when you are going 80". > > Still a great way to start the day! > She was a bit slow to start and get warmed up, which I interpret as me > being > scolded for not having her out of the garage enough. > > Happy roadstering! > Fergus O > Timing chains a-rattlin' in that holiday season! > 69 2000 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From tputland at charter.net Mon Dec 5 12:53:41 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 14:53:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] slightly OT: check your purchases Message-ID: <55c40413.52b5b.1340fc9f79f.Webtop.48@charter.net> Wow, I surely didn't intend this email as a plea for a part, but sure am surprised and happy with the response!! Thanks to all who have replied with an offer of a bolt to fill my set! (maybe this is some karmic payback for some of the pay it forward I've done since getting Dad's Roadster?!?) I have accepted the first offer but will keep everyone else in mind if something falls through. Love the Roadster community!!! PEACE :-) Tim On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Tim wrote: > This falls into the category of fool me once shame on you (and it wont > happen again so no "fool me twice")... > > I bought a set of really nice used U20 head bolts a few years ago when > I thought I might need to rebuild at least the top end my U20. When > the box came I didn't open it. I just put it with my (then) growing > stack of U20 parts for the potential rebuild. > > Fast forward a few years, an R16 stroker in progress, no more need for > U20 parts and the start of the U20 part pile sell off to finance the > stroker build: I opened the box of head bolts to take a picture and > post on evilbay. What do I see? Only nine bolts. WTF! > > So, a lesson learned that shouldn't have been needed. > > Tim > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com Mon Dec 5 13:03:10 2011 From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 12:03:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] also slightly OT: Have a plan, 40 feels like 40 In-Reply-To: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F6601FA88D5@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> References: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F6601FA88D5@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> Message-ID: <1323115390.40492.YahooMailRC@web181015.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> i too hate how it makes me feel driving the roadster when it's cold here. but boy oh boy, does the engine love the cold air! s 675MIZU ________________________________ From: "O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)" To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" Sent: Mon, December 5, 2011 10:56:45 AM Subject: [Roadsters] also slightly OT: Have a plan, 40 feels like 40 And along the lines of Tim's "lesson learned", When I first got my roadster I was very uncomfortable, and willed myself into thinking that removing the center console would provide more leg/knee room. I also did not care for the small grip size on the steering wheel, so got a 13" Grant Wheel with a big fat rim on it. The 13" wheel solved the knee room problem. I have since put the center console back in, (reupholstered from a pair of leather pants from the goodwill, but that is another OT story) but never the heater back in, and here in Southern CA just bundled up. (note: I am just a bit too tall to drive with the top up, so have done it so seldom that it is quite dangerous) And have since learned that I HATE underdash work with a passion. I "dismantled without a plan". Lesson: Don't dismantle without a plan. So fast forward to this weekend, and the wifey's van charging system took a crap over the weekend, and on most days "having to take the roadster to work" is akin to "power outage, have to eat the lobster and ice cream in the freezer before it goes bad." Not today. It was 40 degrees this morning. Weather channel windchill estimate says "40 feels like 40". All I gotta say is, "40 don't feel like 40 when you are going 80". Still a great way to start the day! She was a bit slow to start and get warmed up, which I interpret as me being scolded for not having her out of the garage enough. Happy roadstering! Fergus O Timing chains a-rattlin' in that holiday season! 69 2000 ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 5 13:25:02 2011 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 12:25:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] also slightly OT: Have a plan, 40 feels like 40 In-Reply-To: <1323115390.40492.YahooMailRC@web181015.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1323116702.61643.YahooMailClassic@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> After reading Fergusb post I was thinking, bBoy, is he gonna catch some cr at p from the folks in the cold-weather states!b. Back when my Roadster was on the road B :^(B B I drove it top down in every kind of weather that the Bay Area can throw at you except active precipitation (well, there were those two times -- but I got caught in the rain, and the top just wouldn't latch when it was cold and stiffb&) I remember driving home one New Year's morning at about 2 a.m., probably just a hair above freezing, in a down jacket, ski gloves, and a ball cap. The chill sure blew those New Year's Eve cobwebs out and cleared my head! I also remember thinking how nice a tonneau cover would be -- to help keep the warm air from the heater in the cockpitb& Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Mon, 12/5/11, steven boortz wrote: From: steven boortz Subject: Re: [Roadsters] also slightly OT: Have a plan, 40 feels like 40 To: "O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)" , "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" Date: Monday, December 5, 2011, 12:03 PM i too hate how it makes me feel driving the roadster when it's cold here.B but boy oh boy, does the engine love the cold air! s 675MIZU ________________________________ From: "O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)" To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" Sent: Mon, December 5, 2011 10:56:45 AM Subject: [Roadsters] also slightly OT: Have a plan, 40 feels like 40 And along the lines of Tim's "lesson learned", When I first got my roadster I was very uncomfortable, and willed myself into thinking that removing the center console would provide more leg/knee room. I also did not care for the small grip size on the steering wheel, so got a 13" Grant Wheel with a big fat rim on it. The 13" wheel solved the knee room problem. I have since put the center console back in, (reupholstered from a pair of leather pants from the goodwill, but that is another OT story) but never the heater back in, and here in Southern CA just bundled up. (note: I am just a bit too tall to drive with the top up, so have done it so seldom that it is quite dangerous) And have since learned that I HATE underdash work with a passion. I "dismantled without a plan".B B B B B Lesson:B Don't dismantle without a plan. So fast forward to this weekend, and the wifey's van charging system took a crap over the weekend, and on most days "having to take the roadster to work" is akin to "power outage, have to eat the lobster and ice cream in the freezer before it goes bad." Not today.B It was 40 degrees this morning.B Weather channel windchill estimate says "40 feels like 40". All I gotta say is, "40 don't feel like 40 when you are going 80". Still a great way to start the day! She was a bit slow to start and get warmed up, which I interpret as me being scolded for not having her out of the garage enough. Happy roadstering! Fergus O Timing chains a-rattlin' in that holiday season! 69 2000 ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/vociferouschicanery at ya hoo.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net From rabush2000 at hotmail.com Mon Dec 5 13:43:42 2011 From: rabush2000 at hotmail.com (Richard Bush) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 14:43:42 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Soft Tops In-Reply-To: <1323116702.61643.YahooMailClassic@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1323116702.61643.YahooMailClassic@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Apologies for the delay. To those of you who responded with recommendations on how to stretch my canvas top, thanks "a heap". Best of the holiday season to all and to a mild winter. Rick On Dec 5, 2011, at 2:25 PM, Gary McCormick wrote: > After reading Fergusb post I was thinking, bBoy, is he gonna catch some > cr at p from the folks in the cold-weather states!b. > > Back when my Roadster was on the road B :^(B B I drove it top down in every > kind of weather that the Bay Area can throw at you except active precipitation > (well, there were those two times -- but I got caught in the rain, and the top > just wouldn't latch when it was cold and stiffb&) I remember driving home one > New Year's morning at about 2 a.m., probably just a hair above freezing, in a > down jacket, ski gloves, and a ball cap. The chill sure blew those New Year's > Eve cobwebs out and cleared my head! I also remember thinking how nice a > tonneau cover would be -- to help keep the warm air from the heater in the > cockpitb& > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > > --- On Mon, 12/5/11, steven boortz wrote: > > From: steven boortz > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] also slightly OT: Have a plan, 40 feels like 40 > To: "O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)" , > "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" > Date: Monday, December 5, 2011, 12:03 PM > > i too hate how it makes me feel driving the roadster when it's cold here.B > but > boy oh boy, does the engine love the cold air! > > s > 675MIZU > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)" > To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" > Sent: Mon, December 5, 2011 10:56:45 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] also slightly OT: Have a plan, 40 feels like 40 > > And along the lines of Tim's "lesson learned", > When I first got my roadster I was very uncomfortable, and willed myself into > thinking that removing the center console would provide more leg/knee room. > I also did not care for the small grip size on the steering wheel, so got a > 13" Grant Wheel with a big fat rim on it. > The 13" wheel solved the knee room problem. > > I have since put the center console back in, (reupholstered from a pair of > leather pants from the goodwill, but that is another OT story) > but never the heater back in, and here in Southern CA just bundled up. > (note: I am just a bit too tall to drive with the top up, so have done it so > seldom that it is quite dangerous) > And have since learned that I HATE underdash work with a passion. > I "dismantled without a plan".B B B B B Lesson:B Don't dismantle without a > plan. > > So fast forward to this weekend, and the wifey's van charging system took a > crap over the weekend, and on most days "having to take the roadster to work" > is akin to "power outage, have to eat the lobster and ice cream in the > freezer > before it goes bad." > > Not today.B It was 40 degrees this morning.B Weather channel windchill > estimate says "40 feels like 40". > All I gotta say is, "40 don't feel like 40 when you are going 80". > > Still a great way to start the day! > She was a bit slow to start and get warmed up, which I interpret as me being > scolded for not having her out of the garage enough. > > Happy roadstering! > Fergus O > Timing chains a-rattlin' in that holiday season! > 69 2000 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/vociferouschicanery at ya > hoo.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rabush2000 at hotmail.com > > > Richard Bush cell: 512 574 8081 From ljordan704 at netscape.net Mon Dec 5 14:35:25 2011 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 13:35:25 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] also slightly OT: Have a plan, 40 feels like 40 In-Reply-To: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F6601FA88D5@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> References: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F6601FA88D5@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> Message-ID: <4D3B621B-C583-4EC0-A9C6-F1C9D083FFA1@netscape.net> Fergus, 3 words: 12-volt-blanket! Linda Sent from my iPod On Dec 5, 2011, at 10:56 AM, "O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)" wrote: > And along the lines of Tim's "lesson learned", > When I first got my roadster I was very uncomfortable, and willed myself into > thinking that removing the center console would provide more leg/knee room. > I also did not care for the small grip size on the steering wheel, so got a > 13" Grant Wheel with a big fat rim on it. > The 13" wheel solved the knee room problem. > > I have since put the center console back in, (reupholstered from a pair of > leather pants from the goodwill, but that is another OT story) > but never the heater back in, and here in Southern CA just bundled up. > (note: I am just a bit too tall to drive with the top up, so have done it so > seldom that it is quite dangerous) > And have since learned that I HATE underdash work with a passion. > I "dismantled without a plan". Lesson: Don't dismantle without a plan. > > So fast forward to this weekend, and the wifey's van charging system took a > crap over the weekend, and on most days "having to take the roadster to work" > is akin to "power outage, have to eat the lobster and ice cream in the freezer > before it goes bad." > > Not today. It was 40 degrees this morning. Weather channel windchill > estimate says "40 feels like 40". > All I gotta say is, "40 don't feel like 40 when you are going 80". > > Still a great way to start the day! > She was a bit slow to start and get warmed up, which I interpret as me being > scolded for not having her out of the garage enough. > > Happy roadstering! > Fergus O > Timing chains a-rattlin' in that holiday season! > 69 2000 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 5 16:47:08 2011 From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Prather) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 15:47:08 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] also slightly OT: Have a plan, 40 feels like 40 In-Reply-To: <4D3B621B-C583-4EC0-A9C6-F1C9D083FFA1@netscape.net> References: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F6601FA88D5@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> <4D3B621B-C583-4EC0-A9C6-F1C9D083FFA1@netscape.net> Message-ID: <6E13A8B6-B16C-4E2B-8FB4-0F6098DED785@sbcglobal.net> The Biker world also offer electric attire as well. The guy I work with wears electric lined gloves, vest, or jacket. Don't know if it's 6 volt or 12 but it's out there. Sent from Ipad On Dec 5, 2011, at 1:35 PM, ljordan704 wrote: > Fergus, > 3 words: 12-volt-blanket! > > Linda > > Sent from my iPod > > On Dec 5, 2011, at 10:56 AM, "O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)" > wrote: > >> And along the lines of Tim's "lesson learned", >> When I first got my roadster I was very uncomfortable, and willed myself > into >> thinking that removing the center console would provide more leg/knee room. >> I also did not care for the small grip size on the steering wheel, so got a >> 13" Grant Wheel with a big fat rim on it. >> The 13" wheel solved the knee room problem. >> >> I have since put the center console back in, (reupholstered from a pair of >> leather pants from the goodwill, but that is another OT story) >> but never the heater back in, and here in Southern CA just bundled up. >> (note: I am just a bit too tall to drive with the top up, so have done it > so >> seldom that it is quite dangerous) >> And have since learned that I HATE underdash work with a passion. >> I "dismantled without a plan". Lesson: Don't dismantle without a > plan. >> >> So fast forward to this weekend, and the wifey's van charging system took a >> crap over the weekend, and on most days "having to take the roadster to > work" >> is akin to "power outage, have to eat the lobster and ice cream in the > freezer >> before it goes bad." >> >> Not today. It was 40 degrees this morning. Weather channel windchill >> estimate says "40 feels like 40". >> All I gotta say is, "40 don't feel like 40 when you are going 80". >> >> Still a great way to start the day! >> She was a bit slow to start and get warmed up, which I interpret as me > being >> scolded for not having her out of the garage enough. >> >> Happy roadstering! >> Fergus O >> Timing chains a-rattlin' in that holiday season! >> 69 2000 >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne > t > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tomet9 at sbcglobal.net From aultgc at att.net Mon Dec 5 18:33:41 2011 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 19:33:41 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] also slightly OT: Have a plan, 40 feels like 40 References: <1323116702.61643.YahooMailClassic@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8A3FA453F3C94D20879719B325904C65@gaxp1> Remember to read that short paragraph in the back of the original owner's manual about putting a "muff" on the radiator to allow the temperature to approach normal in cold weather. The one winter I drove my 2L here in Indiana, I used a piece of cardboard cut to press fit into the front of the radiator housing and block half of it. I covered the cardboard with some sort of clear plastic cheet so it didn't dissolve. 130F-140F max went to 180F, and the heater worked again. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary McCormick" To: " Fergus P (AS)O'Farrell" ; ; "steven boortz" Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] also slightly OT: Have a plan, 40 feels like 40 > After reading Fergusb post I was thinking, b Boy, is he gonna catch some > cr at p from the folks in the cold-weather states!b . > > Back when my Roadster was on the road B :^(B B I drove it top down in > every > kind of weather that the Bay Area can throw at you except active > precipitation > (well, there were those two times -- but I got caught in the rain, and the > top > just wouldn't latch when it was cold and stiffb&) I remember driving home > one > New Year's morning at about 2 a.m., probably just a hair above freezing, > in a > down jacket, ski gloves, and a ball cap. The chill sure blew those New > Year's > Eve cobwebs out and cleared my head! I also remember thinking how nice a > tonneau cover would be -- to help keep the warm air from the heater in the > cockpitb& > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > > --- On Mon, 12/5/11, steven boortz wrote: > > From: steven boortz > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] also slightly OT: Have a plan, 40 feels like 40 > To: "O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)" , > "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" > Date: Monday, December 5, 2011, 12:03 PM > > i too hate how it makes me feel driving the roadster when it's cold here.B > but > boy oh boy, does the engine love the cold air! > > s > 675MIZU > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)" > To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" > Sent: Mon, December 5, 2011 10:56:45 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] also slightly OT: Have a plan, 40 feels like 40 > > And along the lines of Tim's "lesson learned", > When I first got my roadster I was very uncomfortable, and willed myself > into > thinking that removing the center console would provide more leg/knee > room. > I also did not care for the small grip size on the steering wheel, so got > a > 13" Grant Wheel with a big fat rim on it. > The 13" wheel solved the knee room problem. > > I have since put the center console back in, (reupholstered from a pair of > leather pants from the goodwill, but that is another OT story) > but never the heater back in, and here in Southern CA just bundled up. > (note: I am just a bit too tall to drive with the top up, so have done it > so > seldom that it is quite dangerous) > And have since learned that I HATE underdash work with a passion. > I "dismantled without a plan".B B B B B Lesson:B Don't dismantle > without a > plan. > > So fast forward to this weekend, and the wifey's van charging system took > a > crap over the weekend, and on most days "having to take the roadster to > work" > is akin to "power outage, have to eat the lobster and ice cream in the > freezer > before it goes bad." > > Not today.B It was 40 degrees this morning.B Weather channel windchill > estimate says "40 feels like 40". > All I gotta say is, "40 don't feel like 40 when you are going 80". > > Still a great way to start the day! > She was a bit slow to start and get warmed up, which I interpret as me > being > scolded for not having her out of the garage enough. > > Happy roadstering! > Fergus O > Timing chains a-rattlin' in that holiday season! > 69 2000 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/vociferouschicanery at ya > hoo.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From tputland at charter.net Tue Dec 6 06:45:29 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 08:45:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] OT--Eight Ferraris wrecked in million-dollar pileup Message-ID: <6dabf15f.5aa6c.134139f3c87.Webtop.44@charter.net> These rich idiots should have to take intensive driving lessons before they are allowed to drive cars like this.... Eight Ferraris wrecked in million-dollar pileup - Yahoo! Autos http://autos.yahoo.com/news/eight-ferraris-wrecked-in-million-dollar-pileup-.html From mark at dealermats.com Tue Dec 6 07:00:18 2011 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 09:00:18 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT--Eight Ferraris wrecked in million-dollar pileup In-Reply-To: <6dabf15f.5aa6c.134139f3c87.Webtop.44@charter.net> References: <6dabf15f.5aa6c.134139f3c87.Webtop.44@charter.net> Message-ID: Some of the reports are saying a guy driving a Prius started it by cutting off the lead guy. Don't hate on the rich guys, hate on the Prius owners :) Sent from my iPhone On Dec 6, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Tim wrote: > These rich idiots should have to take intensive driving lessons before they are allowed to drive cars like this.... > > Eight Ferraris wrecked in million-dollar pileup - Yahoo! Autos > > > http://autos.yahoo.com/news/eight-ferraris-wrecked-in-million-dollar-pileup-. html > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/mark at dealermats.com From tputland at charter.net Tue Dec 6 07:22:50 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 09:22:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] OT--Eight Ferraris wrecked in million-dollar pileup Message-ID: <5714a4bb.5b1f1.13413c16da3.Webtop.44@charter.net> Whether it is true or not, and I am not disputing it, I vote to hate on this prius owner as well! ha On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Mark Dent wrote: > Some of the reports are saying a guy driving a Prius started it by > cutting off the lead guy. Don't hate on the rich guys, hate on the > Prius owners :) > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 6, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Tim wrote: > >> These rich idiots should have to take intensive driving lessons >> before they are allowed to drive cars like this.... >> >> Eight Ferraris wrecked in million-dollar pileup - Yahoo! Autos >> >> >> >> http://autos.yahoo.com/news/eight-ferraris-wrecked-in-million-dollar-pileup-.html >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/mark at dealermats.com From boakes at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 07:33:01 2011 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 08:33:01 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] OT--Eight Ferraris wrecked in million-dollar pileup In-Reply-To: <5714a4bb.5b1f1.13413c16da3.Webtop.44@charter.net> References: <5714a4bb.5b1f1.13413c16da3.Webtop.44@charter.net> Message-ID: a good analysis here: http://jalopnik.com/japan-ferrari-crash/ ...more money than brains, basically. On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Tim wrote: > Whether it is true or not, and I am not disputing it, I vote to hate on this > prius owner as well! ha > > > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Mark Dent wrote: > >> Some of the reports are saying a guy driving a Prius started it by cutting >> off the lead guy. Don't hate on the rich guys, hate on the Prius owners :) >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 6, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Tim wrote: >> >>> These rich idiots should have to take intensive driving lessons before >>> they are allowed to drive cars like this.... >>> >>> Eight Ferraris wrecked in million-dollar pileup - Yahoo! Autos >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://autos.yahoo.com/news/eight-ferraris-wrecked-in-million-dollar-pileup-.html >>> ________________________________________ >>> >>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/mark at dealermats.com > > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/boakes at gmail.com > > -- Bill Oakes bill at billoakes.com http://twitter.com/boakes http://billoakes.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/billoakes From futofab at gsinet.net Tue Dec 6 08:21:42 2011 From: futofab at gsinet.net (David Patten) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 10:21:42 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT--Eight Ferraris wrecked in million-dollar pileup In-Reply-To: References: <5714a4bb.5b1f1.13413c16da3.Webtop.44@charter.net> Message-ID: and yes I hate the Prius for just being a soulless car, if you can even call it a car. Maybe it should be called a "transportation pod", a true car is much more to me. Dave Patten www.FutoFab.com On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Bill Oakes wrote: > a good analysis here: > > http://jalopnik.com/japan-ferrari-crash/ > > ...more money than brains, basically. > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Tim wrote: > > Whether it is true or not, and I am not disputing it, I vote to hate on > this > > prius owner as well! ha > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Mark Dent wrote: > > > >> Some of the reports are saying a guy driving a Prius started it by > cutting > >> off the lead guy. Don't hate on the rich guys, hate on the Prius owners > :) > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On Dec 6, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Tim wrote: > >> > >>> These rich idiots should have to take intensive driving lessons before > >>> they are allowed to drive cars like this.... > >>> > >>> Eight Ferraris wrecked in million-dollar pileup - Yahoo! Autos > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > http://autos.yahoo.com/news/eight-ferraris-wrecked-in-million-dollar-pileup-.html > >>> ________________________________________ > >>> > >>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > >>> > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>> Unsubscribe: > >>> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/mark at dealermats.com > > > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/boakes at gmail.com > > > > > > > > -- > > Bill Oakes > bill at billoakes.com > http://twitter.com/boakes > http://billoakes.com > http://www.linkedin.com/in/billoakes > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/futofab at gsinet.net From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 6 08:43:58 2011 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 07:43:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] OT--Eight Ferraris wrecked in million-dollar pileup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1323186238.30943.YahooMailClassic@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I think that hate is a pretty strong word to apply to a mechanical device. As a mechanical engineer, I admire the energy-conserving regenerative technology used in the Prius; as a visual artist, I deplore its pedestrian styling; and as an auto enthusiast, I am amused by its mundane, one-dimensional functionality. Reports on the multi-supercar incident in japan vary as to the exact cause -- did the over-rich, under-smart driver of the lead Ferrari F430 lose control while passing the Prius, or did the driver of the Prius, in a fit of umbrage at the sight of this convoy of smug 1-percenters driving supercars whose purchase price was individually several times his annual income and collectively several times his lifetime earnings, succumb to a fit of road rage and hip-check the Ferrari into the guardrail? We may never knowb& Just goes to prove, though, what the man says in the song: "Good looks, education, and money are so often wasted on the slow." Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Tue, 12/6/11, David Patten wrote: From: David Patten Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT--Eight Ferraris wrecked in million-dollar pileup To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Tuesday, December 6, 2011, 7:21 AM and yes I hate the Prius for just being a soulless car, if you can even call it a car. Maybe it should be called a "transportation pod", a true car is much more to me. Dave Patten www.FutoFab.com On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Bill Oakes wrote: > a good analysis here: > > http://jalopnik.com/japan-ferrari-crash/ > > ...more money than brains, basically. > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Tim wrote: > > Whether it is true or not, and I am not disputing it, I vote to hate on > this > > prius owner as well! ha > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Mark Dent wrote: > > > >> Some of the reports are saying a guy driving a Prius started it by > cutting > >> off the lead guy. Don't hate on the rich guys, hate on the Prius owners > :) > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On Dec 6, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Tim wrote: > >> > >>> These rich idiots should have to take intensive driving lessons before > >>> they are allowed to drive cars like this.... > >>> > >>> Eight Ferraris wrecked in million-dollar pileup - Yahoo! Autos > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > http://autos.yahoo.com/news/eight-ferraris-wrecked-in-million-dollar-pileup-. html > >>> ________________________________________ > >>> > >>> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > >>> > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>> Unsubscribe: > >>> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/mark at dealermats.com > > > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/boakes at gmail.com > > > > > > > > -- > > Bill Oakes > bill at billoakes.com > http://twitter.com/boakes > http://billoakes.com > http://www.linkedin.com/in/billoakes >B ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/futofab at gsinet.net ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net From jones_barton at msn.com Tue Dec 6 11:19:33 2011 From: jones_barton at msn.com (Jones Barton) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 10:19:33 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Small Heater Hose In-Reply-To: <2e0c0a91.513a6.1340f2728c1.Webtop.45@charter.net> References: <2e0c0a91.513a6.1340f2728c1.Webtop.45@charter.net> Message-ID: Roadster Fans, I was working on my heater on a 1969 1600 and of course the 30 year old small heater hose disintegrated in my hand. This is the hose that looks like a question mark and goes from the heater valve to the heater core on the passenger side. Of course this is the hose that is no longer available and has not been for some time. I did a search on the subject and found that others have found a substitute hose but no one mentioned the manufacture or part number. Does anyone in Datsun land have a part number for the hose? Allen Barton Normandy Park, WA 1969 1600 From sfdaugherty01 at msn.com Tue Dec 6 12:58:23 2011 From: sfdaugherty01 at msn.com (SHANNON F DAUGHERTY) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 19:58:23 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Small Heater Hose In-Reply-To: References: <2e0c0a91.513a6.1340f2728c1.Webtop.45@charter.net>, Message-ID: Datsunparts.com sells a replacement hose for $11.79. Shannon > From: jones_barton at msn.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 10:19:33 -0800 > Subject: [Roadsters] Small Heater Hose > > Roadster Fans, > > I was working on my heater on a 1969 1600 and of course the 30 year old small > heater hose disintegrated in my hand. This is the hose that looks like a > question mark and goes from the heater valve to the heater core on the > passenger side. Of course this is the hose that is no longer available and has > not been for some time. I did a search on the subject and found that others > have found a substitute hose but no one mentioned the manufacture or part > number. Does anyone in Datsun land have a part number for the hose? > > Allen Barton > Normandy Park, WA > 1969 1600 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/sfdaugherty01 at msn.com From sumton at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 6 13:12:55 2011 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 14:12:55 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Small Heater Hose In-Reply-To: References: <2e0c0a91.513a6.1340f2728c1.Webtop.45@charter.net>, Message-ID: I have found that I can create what I need from off the shelf hoses and plumbing parts -------------------------------------------------- From: "SHANNON F DAUGHERTY" Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 1:58 PM To: ; Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Small Heater Hose > Datsunparts.com sells a replacement hose for $11.79. > > Shannon > > >> From: jones_barton at msn.com >> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 10:19:33 -0800 >> Subject: [Roadsters] Small Heater Hose >> >> Roadster Fans, >> >> I was working on my heater on a 1969 1600 and of course the 30 year old > small >> heater hose disintegrated in my hand. This is the hose that looks like a >> question mark and goes from the heater valve to the heater core on the >> passenger side. Of course this is the hose that is no longer available >> and > has >> not been for some time. I did a search on the subject and found that >> others >> have found a substitute hose but no one mentioned the manufacture or part >> number. Does anyone in Datsun land have a part number for the hose? >> >> Allen Barton >> Normandy Park, WA From wilhouse at charter.net Tue Dec 6 13:40:35 2011 From: wilhouse at charter.net (wilhouse at charter.net) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 15:40:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] Small Heater Hose Message-ID: <291d9451.10556.134151b442f.Webtop.45@charter.net> Here is the one I used on my '67. Copied from the WikiTech at 311s.org Heating '& Cooling b"I found an almost perfect hose for the manifold to heater valve connection. It is 5/8" hose, perfect for the heater core, so you'll need to add a connector and a short piece of 1/2" hose on the engine side. But the curves are perfect. Advanced Auto part #303625 heater hose. Fits an '87-88 Nissan van, '95 Chevy Lumina and a long list of others, so should be easy to find. (67 for sure) Sorry, not sure whether it is the same configuration needed for the later cars. ken From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Dec 6 13:41:51 2011 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 12:41:51 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Small Heater Hose In-Reply-To: References: <2e0c0a91.513a6.1340f2728c1.Webtop.45@charter.net>, Message-ID: <008601ccb457$7be0b460$73a21d20$@net> Scroll down to Part #1530. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of SHANNON F DAUGHERTY Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:58 AM To: jones_barton at msn.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Small Heater Hose Datsunparts.com sells a replacement hose for $11.79. Shannon -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jones Barton Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:20 AM To: datsun-roadsters Subject: [Roadsters] Small Heater Hose Roadster Fans, I was working on my heater on a 1969 1600 and of course the 30 year old small heater hose disintegrated in my hand. This is the hose that looks like a question mark and goes from the heater valve to the heater core on the passenger side. Of course this is the hose that is no longer available and has not been for some time. I did a search on the subject and found that others have found a substitute hose but no one mentioned the manufacture or part number. Does anyone in Datsun land have a part number for the hose? Allen Barton Normandy Park, WA 1969 1600 From jones_barton at msn.com Tue Dec 6 14:13:14 2011 From: jones_barton at msn.com (Jones Barton) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 13:13:14 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Small Heater Hose In-Reply-To: <008601ccb457$7be0b460$73a21d20$@net> References: <2e0c0a91.513a6.1340f2728c1.Webtop.45@charter.net>, , , , <008601ccb457$7be0b460$73a21d20$@net> Message-ID: Looks like I did not do a good job of explaining what I am looking for. Certainly Dean has a replacement/substitute hose. What I was hoping for was someone had found one at NAPA, O'Rilleys, Autozone etc.. that would work. My hope was to get the hose replaced as soon as possible instead of waiting a week for it to come from Dean. I order a lot of my parts from Dean, but when you are running out of vaction time it is nice to find a substitute part you can get from the local parts store. Will had sent a reply earlier but it sounds like this is the hose from the manafold to the heater valve and I need the small hose that goes from the heater valve to the heater core. I will probably end up calling Dean and getting the hose from him but will have to delay putting in the carpet unil the heater is taken care of. Allen Barton > From: ppeters914 at comcast.net > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 12:41:51 -0800 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Small Heater Hose > > > > Scroll down to Part #1530. > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of SHANNON F > DAUGHERTY > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:58 AM > To: jones_barton at msn.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Small Heater Hose > > Datsunparts.com sells a replacement hose for $11.79. > > Shannon > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jones Barton > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:20 AM > To: datsun-roadsters > Subject: [Roadsters] Small Heater Hose > > Roadster Fans, > > I was working on my heater on a 1969 1600 and of course the 30 year old > small heater hose disintegrated in my hand. This is the hose that looks like > a question mark and goes from the heater valve to the heater core on the > passenger side. Of course this is the hose that is no longer available and > has not been for some time. I did a search on the subject and found that > others have found a substitute hose but no one mentioned the manufacture or > part number. Does anyone in Datsun land have a part number for the hose? > > Allen Barton > Normandy Park, WA > 1969 1600 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/jones_barton at msn.com From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Tue Dec 6 14:29:58 2011 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 16:29:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] Small Heater Hose Message-ID: <2a0ce.279ea3d8.3c0fe355@aol.com> Allen - I just replaced the upper radiator hose on my son's '70 1600 by taking the hose to the local NAPA store and they matched it up with something in stock. It was longer than the original but a razor blade solves that problem, but it had the needed 30 degree angle needed. Gary Lasater In a message dated 12/6/2011 2:23:37 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, jones_barton at msn.com writes: Looks like I did not do a good job of explaining what I am looking for. Certainly Dean has a replacement/substitute hose. What I was hoping for was someone had found one at NAPA, O'Rilleys, Autozone etc.. that would work. My hope was to get the hose replaced as soon as possible instead of waiting a week for it to come from Dean. I order a lot of my parts from Dean, but when you are running out of vaction time it is nice to find a substitute part you can get from the local parts store. Will had sent a reply earlier but it sounds like this is the hose from the manafold to the heater valve and I need the small hose that goes from the heater valve to the heater core. I will probably end up calling Dean and getting the hose from him but will have to delay putting in the carpet unil the heater is taken care of. Allen Barton > From: ppeters914 at comcast.net > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 12:41:51 -0800 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Small Heater Hose > > > > Scroll down to Part #1530. > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of SHANNON F > DAUGHERTY > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:58 AM > To: jones_barton at msn.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Small Heater Hose > > Datsunparts.com sells a replacement hose for $11.79. > > Shannon > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jones Barton > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:20 AM > To: datsun-roadsters > Subject: [Roadsters] Small Heater Hose > > Roadster Fans, > > I was working on my heater on a 1969 1600 and of course the 30 year old > small heater hose disintegrated in my hand. This is the hose that looks like > a question mark and goes from the heater valve to the heater core on the > passenger side. Of course this is the hose that is no longer available and > has not been for some time. I did a search on the subject and found that > others have found a substitute hose but no one mentioned the manufacture or > part number. Does anyone in Datsun land have a part number for the hose? > > Allen Barton > Normandy Park, WA > 1969 1600 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/jones_barton at msn.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/barterdude at aol.com From tputland at charter.net Wed Dec 7 05:10:04 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 07:10:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] measuring a cam Message-ID: <6fe9558f.68a21.134186e3b6c.Webtop.48@charter.net> Can someone please send me a picture, drawing, diagram, hyrogliphic, .jpg, .gif, bitmap, etc that clearly shows where I need to put the micrometer in order to get an accurate measure of a cam shaft? A shot of a cam with the micrometer actually in/on the two spots needed to be measured would be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much!!! Tim From tputland at charter.net Wed Dec 7 06:53:13 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 08:53:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] measuring a cam Message-ID: <77b49eb9.698a5.13418ccaa93.Webtop.48@charter.net> I guess I might need to be more clear... I want to determine if 2000 cam I have is actually the "B" grind I was told it was when I bought the head. So I need to measure for lift and duration (right?) to determine the grind of this cam. Thanks! On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 6:10 AM, Tim wrote: > Can someone please send me a picture, drawing, diagram, hyrogliphic, > .jpg, .gif, bitmap, etc that clearly shows where I need to put the > micrometer in order to get an accurate measure of a cam shaft? > > A shot of a cam with the micrometer actually in/on the two spots > needed to be measured would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks very much!!! > > Tim > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From ronnie.day at gmail.com Wed Dec 7 07:12:25 2011 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 08:12:25 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] measuring a cam In-Reply-To: <77b49eb9.698a5.13418ccaa93.Webtop.48@charter.net> References: <77b49eb9.698a5.13418ccaa93.Webtop.48@charter.net> Message-ID: First, it'll be hard to accurately measure duration on the cam itself, but you can easily measure the lift. Measure a lobe across the shortest dimension and then measure from the top of the lobe to the opposite side. The difference is the lift, at the cam. you'd need to multiply that number by any any additional lift built into the rockers, I think maybe a 1.5:1 ratio? However, IIRC, "B" cams have that "B" and maybe some other info stamped in the flat surface on the aft end of the cam. You should be able to read that using a small pocket mirror. HTH, Ron On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Tim wrote: > I guess I might need to be more clear... > > I want to determine if 2000 cam I have is actually the "B" grind I was > told it was when I bought the head. So I need to measure for lift and > duration (right?) to determine the grind of this cam. > > Thanks! > > > On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 6:10 AM, Tim wrote: > > Can someone please send me a picture, drawing, diagram, hyrogliphic, >> .jpg, .gif, bitmap, etc that clearly shows where I need to put the >> micrometer in order to get an accurate measure of a cam shaft? >> >> A shot of a cam with the micrometer actually in/on the two spots needed >> to be measured would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Thanks very much!!! >> >> Tim >> ______________________________**__________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/datsun-roadsters/** >> tputland at charter.net >> > ______________________________**__________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.**net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/datsun-roadsters/** > ronnie.day at gmail.com From tputland at charter.net Wed Dec 7 07:25:26 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 09:25:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] measuring a cam Message-ID: <2dfafc51.6a0f9.13418ea2819.Webtop.48@charter.net> OK, one more piece of info needed here.... This is supposed to be a reground cam so no "B" stamp. thanks On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Tim wrote: > I guess I might need to be more clear... > > I want to determine if 2000 cam I have is actually the "B" grind I was > told it was when I bought the head. So I need to measure for lift and > duration (right?) to determine the grind of this cam. > > Thanks! > > On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 6:10 AM, Tim wrote: > >> Can someone please send me a picture, drawing, diagram, hyrogliphic, >> .jpg, .gif, bitmap, etc that clearly shows where I need to put the >> micrometer in order to get an accurate measure of a cam shaft? >> >> A shot of a cam with the micrometer actually in/on the two spots >> needed to be measured would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Thanks very much!!! >> >> Tim >> ________________________________________ From tputland at charter.net Wed Dec 7 15:35:37 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 17:35:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] I'm an idiot----was measuring a cam Message-ID: <64262147.7033c.1341aaaf103.Webtop.44@charter.net> I am an idiot. plain and simple. just an idiot. Why you ask? No reason. I am just an idiot. now I am going to have a beer on a school night. (I was looking at the wrong end of the bleedin thing) It's a "B". having a beer now. i'm an idiot. On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Tim wrote: > OK, one more piece of info needed here.... > > This is supposed to be a reground cam so no "B" stamp. > > thanks > > > On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Tim wrote: > >> I guess I might need to be more clear... >> >> I want to determine if 2000 cam I have is actually the "B" grind I >> was told it was when I bought the head. So I need to measure for lift >> and duration (right?) to determine the grind of this cam. >> >> Thanks! >> >> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 6:10 AM, Tim wrote: >> >>> Can someone please send me a picture, drawing, diagram, hyrogliphic, >>> .jpg, .gif, bitmap, etc that clearly shows where I need to put the >>> micrometer in order to get an accurate measure of a cam shaft? >>> >>> A shot of a cam with the micrometer actually in/on the two spots >>> needed to be measured would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> Thanks very much!!! >>> >>> Tim >>> ________________________________________ > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From jones_barton at msn.com Wed Dec 7 15:43:28 2011 From: jones_barton at msn.com (Jones Barton) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 14:43:28 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Small Heater Hose (SOLVED) In-Reply-To: <2a0ce.279ea3d8.3c0fe355@aol.com> References: <2a0ce.279ea3d8.3c0fe355@aol.com> Message-ID: Thanks everyone for their advice on the small heater hose. I went to NAPA and they allowed me behind the counter to look at their stock of hose. I settled on NAPA hose 8429. Cut about a inch off one end and it is a very nice fit. No kinks and the bend lined right up with the heater core. Allen ----- Original Message ----- From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com To: jones_barton at msn.com ; ppeters914 at comcast.net ; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Small Heater Hose Allen - I just replaced the upper radiator hose on my son's '70 1600 by taking the hose to the local NAPA store and they matched it up with something in stock. It was longer than the original but a razor blade solves that problem, but it had the needed 30 degree angle needed. Gary Lasater In a message dated 12/6/2011 2:23:37 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, jones_barton at msn.com writes: Looks like I did not do a good job of explaining what I am looking for. Certainly Dean has a replacement/substitute hose. What I was hoping for was someone had found one at NAPA, O'Rilleys, Autozone etc.. that would work. My hope was to get the hose replaced as soon as possible instead of waiting a week for it to come from Dean. I order a lot of my parts from Dean, but when you are running out of vaction time it is nice to find a substitute part you can get from the local parts store. Will had sent a reply earlier but it sounds like this is the hose from the manafold to the heater valve and I need the small hose that goes from the heater valve to the heater core. I will probably end up calling Dean and getting the hose from him but will have to delay putting in the carpet unil the heater is taken care of. Allen Barton > From: ppeters914 at comcast.net > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 12:41:51 -0800 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Small Heater Hose > > > > Scroll down to Part #1530. > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of SHANNON F > DAUGHERTY > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:58 AM > To: jones_barton at msn.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Small Heater Hose > > Datsunparts.com sells a replacement hose for $11.79. > > Shannon > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jones Barton > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:20 AM > To: datsun-roadsters > Subject: [Roadsters] Small Heater Hose > > Roadster Fans, > > I was working on my heater on a 1969 1600 and of course the 30 year old > small heater hose disintegrated in my hand. This is the hose that looks like > a question mark and goes from the heater valve to the heater core on the > passenger side. Of course this is the hose that is no longer available and > has not been for some time. I did a search on the subject and found that > others have found a substitute hose but no one mentioned the manufacture or > part number. Does anyone in Datsun land have a part number for the hose? > > Allen Barton > Normandy Park, WA > 1969 1600 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/jones_barton at msn.c om ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/barterdude at aol.com From graemes at internode.on.net Wed Dec 7 16:00:21 2011 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling) Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 09:30:21 +1030 Subject: [Roadsters] I'm an idiot----was measuring a cam In-Reply-To: <64262147.7033c.1341aaaf103.Webtop.44@charter.net> References: <64262147.7033c.1341aaaf103.Webtop.44@charter.net> Message-ID: <4EDFF005.8040400@internode.on.net> Ahhh! take it easy Tim, we all look at the forest now and then and don't see the trees. Enjoy your ONE beer;-) Regards, Graeme Suckling 1965 SP310 Datsun Sports 1971 P510 Datsun 1600 1972 PL510 Datsun 1600 LHD 1973 HS30 Datsun 240Z 1984 B120 Datsun 1200 utility 1993 ECR33 Skyline GTS25t http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia. On 8/12/2011 9:05 AM, Tim wrote: > I am an idiot. plain and simple. just an idiot. > > Why you ask? No reason. I am just an idiot. now I am going to have a > beer on a school night. > > (I was looking at the wrong end of the bleedin thing) > > It's a "B". > > having a beer now. i'm an idiot. > > > On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Tim wrote: > >> OK, one more piece of info needed here.... >> >> This is supposed to be a reground cam so no "B" stamp. >> >> thanks >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Tim wrote: >> >>> I guess I might need to be more clear... >>> >>> I want to determine if 2000 cam I have is actually the "B" grind I >>> was told it was when I bought the head. So I need to measure for >>> lift and duration (right?) to determine the grind of this cam. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 6:10 AM, Tim wrote: >>> >>>> Can someone please send me a picture, drawing, diagram, >>>> hyrogliphic, .jpg, .gif, bitmap, etc that clearly shows where I >>>> need to put the micrometer in order to get an accurate measure of a >>>> cam shaft? >>>> >>>> A shot of a cam with the micrometer actually in/on the two spots >>>> needed to be measured would be greatly appreciated. >>>> >>>> Thanks very much!!! >>>> >>>> Tim >>>> ________________________________________ >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on.net From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 7 23:11:16 2011 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 22:11:16 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 Roadster in Sunnyvale, CA on Bring-A-Trailer Message-ID: <4EE05504.3010200@sbcglobal.net> From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 7 23:21:01 2011 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 22:21:01 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 Roadster on BAT in Sunnyvale, CA Message-ID: <4EE0574D.6070601@sbcglobal.net> /5tFlDr: Permission denied From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Thu Dec 8 06:26:56 2011 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 13:26:56 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Classic Motorsports calendar, beaut 69 2000 shot Message-ID: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F6601FA9806@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> This might be a re-post (I get the digest version) but I got my Classic Motorsports magazine in the mail yesterday, and August has a gorgeous Spanish Red 69 2000 with Panasports picture. Not sure whose it is, but might be Tom Prather. The camera angle is real low to the ground, so the high windshield looks like a low one,and the Pana's look like 16's with 45 series tires. IThey also have an article "12 Great Buys for a new year" on pg 113, which in the 10k-20k category one reviewer pics a Volvo P1800, but his collector friend suggests a 2L Datsun roadster... "like an MGB except it has 40 more hp, reliable electrics, and a 5 spd gearbox..." Happy holidays, Fergus O 69 2000, wishing for a thermostat from Santa this year... From futofab at gsinet.net Thu Dec 8 07:53:40 2011 From: futofab at gsinet.net (David Patten) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 09:53:40 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Classic Motorsports calendar, beaut 69 2000 shot In-Reply-To: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F6601FA9806@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> References: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F6601FA9806@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> Message-ID: Fergus & List, I believe you are the first to mention the roadster on Classic Motorsport's calendar to the list. It is owned by a customer of FutoFab's, Shannon Daugherty in New Mexico. The wheels are VTO Classic 8's, 16x7 +12 offset with 195/45 tires. Shannon was so pleased with this set of VTO wheels, he bought a second set from us. Here is a little of the back story on the photo. FutoFab likes to have customers send in pictures of their cars after they have installed our products. Shannon sent in this picture of his gorgeous red '69 Roadster. Everything about the photo was flawless including Shannon's car. FutoFab sent it off to VTO. VTO sponsors part of the Classic motorsports calendar. When VTO saw the photo, they immediately wanted it for their submission into the calendar and an immediate flurry of requests for hi-res pictures and signed releases followed to make it happen. One of the neat things about this photo is the reflected image of a roadster quarter panel in the car's door. That car was Shannon's Dad's for 40 years and was recently sold to a family friend. This image shows just how super clean Shannon's car really is. -- Dave Patten, Owner FutoFab, LLC 199 Stark Hwy So Dunbarton, NH 03046 Website - www.FutoFab.com e-mail - dave at futofab.com On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:26 AM, O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS) < Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com> wrote: > This might be a re-post (I get the digest version) but I got my Classic > Motorsports magazine in the mail yesterday, and August has a gorgeous > Spanish > Red 69 2000 with Panasports picture. Not sure whose it is, but might be > Tom > Prather. > The camera angle is real low to the ground, so the high windshield looks > like > a low one,and the Pana's look like 16's with 45 series tires. > > IThey also have an article "12 Great Buys for a new year" on pg 113, which > in > the 10k-20k category one reviewer pics a Volvo P1800, but his collector > friend > suggests a 2L Datsun roadster... > "like an MGB except it has 40 more hp, reliable electrics, and a 5 spd > gearbox..." > > Happy holidays, > Fergus O > 69 2000, wishing for a thermostat from Santa this year... > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/futofab at gsinet.net From RWM at RWMann.com Thu Dec 8 08:19:38 2011 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 10:19:38 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Classic Motorsports calendar, beaut 69 2000 shot In-Reply-To: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F6601FA9806@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> References: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F6601FA9806@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> Message-ID: <4EE0D58A.6030001@RWMann.com> Anyone have a link to the articles? On 12/8/2011 8:26 AM, O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS) wrote: > This might be a re-post (I get the digest version) but I got my Classic > Motorsports magazine in the mail yesterday, and August has a gorgeous Spanish > Red 69 2000 with Panasports picture. Not sure whose it is, but might be Tom > Prather. > The camera angle is real low to the ground, so the high windshield looks like > a low one,and the Pana's look like 16's with 45 series tires. > > IThey also have an article "12 Great Buys for a new year" on pg 113, which in > the 10k-20k category one reviewer pics a Volvo P1800, but his collector friend > suggests a 2L Datsun roadster... > "like an MGB except it has 40 more hp, reliable electrics, and a 5 spd > gearbox..." > > Happy holidays, > Fergus O > 69 2000, wishing for a thermostat from Santa this year... From sfdaugherty01 at msn.com Thu Dec 8 09:24:25 2011 From: sfdaugherty01 at msn.com (SHANNON F DAUGHERTY) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 16:24:25 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Classic Motorsports calendar, beaut 69 2000 shot In-Reply-To: References: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F6601FA9806@XMBC3087.northgrum.com>, Message-ID: That is one of my cars. I didn't know until I read this thread that it actually made it into the calendar. I have to admit that there are much nicer cars than mine. The difference is that Zach Mayne, the guy who took the photo, is a professional photographer. He can make anything look good. The photo was taken in October near the Sandia Crest in New Mexico during a three roadster drive up the mountain (Zach's brother Jeremy has a 70 1600 stroker). The photo was also submitted to the 311s.org calendar that is due out late this week (I don't know if it received enough votes to make it into that calendar). A different photo of this car and my Dad's 68 1600 together is in Zach Mayne's own calendar "Classic Cars" for the month of October at this link : http://www.lulu.com/product/calendar/classic-cars-2012/18589412?productTracki ngContext=search_results/search_shelf/center/2 Dave is right about the wheels. I searched for some time to find a set of 16" wheels for my 68 SR20. When these arrived, I put them on the 69 to see how they looked and fit since my SR20 conversion wasn't complete. I liked them so much that I never took them off and bought another set for my SR20. Not only do they fit inside the fenders, the center caps fit over the front hubs. I'm going to have to buy this calendar from Classic Motorsports! Shannon > Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 09:53:40 -0500 > From: futofab at gsinet.net > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Classic Motorsports calendar, beaut 69 2000 shot > > Fergus & List, > I believe you are the first to mention the roadster on Classic Motorsport's > calendar to the list. > > It is owned by a customer of FutoFab's, Shannon Daugherty in New Mexico. > > The wheels are VTO Classic 8's, 16x7 +12 offset with 195/45 tires. Shannon > was so pleased with this set of VTO wheels, he bought a second set from us. > > Here is a little of the back story on the photo. FutoFab likes to have > customers send in pictures of their cars after they have installed our > products. Shannon sent in this picture of his gorgeous red '69 Roadster. > Everything about the photo was flawless including Shannon's car. FutoFab > sent it off to VTO. VTO sponsors part of the Classic motorsports calendar. > When VTO saw the photo, they immediately wanted it for their submission > into the calendar and an immediate flurry of requests for hi-res pictures > and signed releases followed to make it happen. > > One of the neat things about this photo is the reflected image of a > roadster quarter panel in the car's door. That car was Shannon's Dad's for > 40 years and was recently sold to a family friend. This image shows just > how super clean Shannon's car really is. > -- > Dave Patten, Owner > > FutoFab, LLC > 199 Stark Hwy So > Dunbarton, NH 03046 > > Website - www.FutoFab.com > e-mail - dave at futofab.com > > > > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:26 AM, O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS) < > Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com> wrote: > > > This might be a re-post (I get the digest version) but I got my Classic > > Motorsports magazine in the mail yesterday, and August has a gorgeous > > Spanish > > Red 69 2000 with Panasports picture. Not sure whose it is, but might be > > Tom > > Prather. > > The camera angle is real low to the ground, so the high windshield looks > > like > > a low one,and the Pana's look like 16's with 45 series tires. > > > > IThey also have an article "12 Great Buys for a new year" on pg 113, which > > in > > the 10k-20k category one reviewer pics a Volvo P1800, but his collector > > friend > > suggests a 2L Datsun roadster... > > "like an MGB except it has 40 more hp, reliable electrics, and a 5 spd > > gearbox..." > > > > Happy holidays, > > Fergus O > > 69 2000, wishing for a thermostat from Santa this year... > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/futofab at gsinet.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/sfdaugherty01 at msn.com From futofab at gsinet.net Thu Dec 8 10:00:25 2011 From: futofab at gsinet.net (David Patten) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 12:00:25 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Classic Motorsports calendar, beaut 69 2000 shot In-Reply-To: References: <1432A0C924F7ED439A95685850281F6601FA9806@XMBC3087.northgrum.com> Message-ID: Shannon, I believe Tammy has a couple copies of the calendar coming your way. If not let me know and I'll get you taken care of. Regarding your car, I don't think it took much of a make-up artist to get it camera ready and Zach's skill just brought out the car's real beauty. As they say you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Dave P On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 11:24 AM, SHANNON F DAUGHERTY wrote: > That is one of my cars. I didn't know until I read this thread that > it actually made it into the calendar. I have to admit that there are much > nicer cars than mine. The difference is that Zach Mayne, the guy who took > the photo, is a professional photographer. He can make anything look good. > > The photo was taken in October near the Sandia Crest in New Mexico during > a three roadster drive up the mountain (Zach's brother Jeremy has a 70 1600 > stroker). > > The photo was also submitted to the 311s.org calendar that is due out > late this week (I don't know if it received enough votes to make it into > that calendar). A different photo of this car and my Dad's 68 1600 > together is in Zach Mayne's own calendar "Classic Cars" for the month of > October at this link : > > > > http://www.lulu.com/product/calendar/classic-cars-2012/18589412?productTrackingContext=search_results/search_shelf/center/2 > > Dave is right about the wheels. I searched for some time to find a set of > 16" wheels for my 68 SR20. When these arrived, I put them on the 69 to see > how they looked and fit since my SR20 conversion wasn't complete. I liked > them so much that I never took them off and bought another set for my > SR20. Not only do they fit inside the fenders, the center caps fit over > the front hubs. > > I'm going to have to buy this calendar from Classic Motorsports! > > Shannon > > > Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 09:53:40 -0500 > > From: futofab at gsinet.net > > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Classic Motorsports calendar, beaut 69 2000 > shot > > > > > Fergus & List, > > I believe you are the first to mention the roadster on Classic > Motorsport's > > calendar to the list. > > > > It is owned by a customer of FutoFab's, Shannon Daugherty in New Mexico. > > > > The wheels are VTO Classic 8's, 16x7 +12 offset with 195/45 tires. > Shannon > > was so pleased with this set of VTO wheels, he bought a second set from > us. > > > > Here is a little of the back story on the photo. FutoFab likes to have > > customers send in pictures of their cars after they have installed our > > products. Shannon sent in this picture of his gorgeous red '69 Roadster. > > Everything about the photo was flawless including Shannon's car. FutoFab > > sent it off to VTO. VTO sponsors part of the Classic motorsports > calendar. > > When VTO saw the photo, they immediately wanted it for their submission > > into the calendar and an immediate flurry of requests for hi-res pictures > > and signed releases followed to make it happen. > > > > One of the neat things about this photo is the reflected image of a > > roadster quarter panel in the car's door. That car was Shannon's Dad's > for > > 40 years and was recently sold to a family friend. This image shows just > > how super clean Shannon's car really is. > > -- > > Dave Patten, Owner > > > > FutoFab, LLC > > 199 Stark Hwy So > > Dunbarton, NH 03046 > > > > Website - www.FutoFab.com < > http://www.futofab.com/> > > > e-mail - dave at futofab.com > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:26 AM, O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS) < > > Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com> wrote: > > > > > This might be a re-post (I get the digest version) but I got my Classic > > > Motorsports magazine in the mail yesterday, and August has a gorgeous > > > Spanish > > > Red 69 2000 with Panasports picture. Not sure whose it is, but might be > > > Tom > > > Prather. > > > The camera angle is real low to the ground, so the high windshield > looks > > > like > > > a low one,and the Pana's look like 16's with 45 series tires. > > > > > > IThey also have an article "12 Great Buys for a new year" on pg 113, > which > > > in > > > the 10k-20k category one reviewer pics a Volvo P1800, but his collector > > > friend > > > suggests a 2L Datsun roadster... > > > "like an MGB except it has 40 more hp, reliable electrics, and a 5 spd > > > gearbox..." > > > > > > Happy holidays, > > > Fergus O > > > 69 2000, wishing for a thermostat from Santa this year... > > > ________________________________________ > > > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe: > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/futofab at gsinet.net > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/sfdaugherty01 at msn.com From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 8 13:19:59 2011 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 12:19:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] '67 1600 on B.A.T. Message-ID: <1323375599.24165.YahooMailClassic@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/12/07/black-plate-1967-5-datsun-1600-roadster/#more- Gary McCormick San Jose, CA From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 8 13:55:16 2011 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 12:55:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] '67 1600 on B.A.T. In-Reply-To: <1323375599.24165.YahooMailClassic@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1323377716.20332.YahooMailClassic@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> That white '67 1600 on B.A.T. sold already. Looked pretty clean, but I didn't like the Weber conversion. There were some nice comments from former and non-owners of Roadsters in the comments, with (of course) the obligatory flame from a Japanese-car-hating troll (who nevertheless acknowledged having had his fanny waxed by Roadsters many times in autocrossb&). Still wonder at it being plugged as a " '67-1/2" -- I thought the distinction only applied to the '67 2000s, since they were introduced mid-year. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Thu, 12/8/11, Gary McCormick wrote: From: Gary McCormick Subject: [Roadsters] '67 1600 on B.A.T. To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Thursday, December 8, 2011, 12:19 PM http://bringatrailer.com/2011/12/07/black-plate-1967-5-datsun-1600-roadster/# more- Gary McCormick San Jose, CA ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net From shifty at shiftco.com Thu Dec 8 14:37:29 2011 From: shifty at shiftco.com (shifty at shiftco.com) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 13:37:29 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] '67 1600 on B.A.T. In-Reply-To: <1323377716.20332.YahooMailClassic@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1323377716.20332.YahooMailClassic@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Gary, The '67.5 1600 and 2000s are the same other than the power train, badges and the chrome license plate surround. The '67.5 1600s also have the dual master cylinder brakes. The "pocket" in the firewall is the easiest way to spot a '67.5 1600 or 2000. Also the interior gauge and switch layout is the same as the 2000 and differs from the '67 1600. The "non-shiny" silver paint on the interior chrome is another thing unique to '67.5s. Leigh Brooks > Still wonder at it being plugged as a " '67-1/2" -- I thought the > distinction > only applied to the '67 2000s, since they were introduced mid-year. > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 8 14:40:51 2011 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 13:40:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] '67 1600 on B.A.T. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1323380451.54451.YahooMailClassic@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks, Leigh. Even after 25 years of Roadster ownership, I am still learning! Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Thu, 12/8/11, shifty at shiftco.com wrote: From: shifty at shiftco.com Subject: Re: [Roadsters] '67 1600 on B.A.T. To: "Gary McCormick" Cc: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Thursday, December 8, 2011, 1:37 PM Gary, The '67.5 1600 and 2000s are the same other than the power train, badges and the chrome license plate surround. The '67.5 1600s also have the dual master cylinder brakes. The "pocket" in the firewall is the easiest way to spot a '67.5 1600 or 2000. Also the interior gauge and switch layout is the same as the 2000 and differs from the '67 1600. The "non-shiny" silver paint on the interior chrome is another thing unique to '67.5s. Leigh Brooks > Still wonder at it being plugged as a " '67-1/2" -- I thought the > distinction > only applied to the '67 2000s, since they were introduced mid-year. > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 15:33:11 2011 From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 17:33:11 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 510 FS near Detroit Message-ID: Don't know anything about it. 1972 Datsun 510 - $1000 (Waterford) ------------------------------ http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/cto/2718780733.html 1972 Datsun 510 4 door nice project car includes motor and trans use to be daily driven till engine started makin noise. Has big sway bars 240sx rear diff. 248 778 5040 open to possible trades cars motorcycles snowmobiles honda b series parts Paul Ohio From srl311xp at yahoo.com Fri Dec 9 08:27:31 2011 From: srl311xp at yahoo.com (Todd Green) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 07:27:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Message-ID: <1323444451.81717.YahooMailNeo@web120403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> 1968 srl311 for scca solo2 XP. It has a 3 link rear suspension with a wats link, o srcub front end speedway sway bars close rato steering rack & is powered by a VQ35HR. It also has 23.5x11.5x16 goodyears for grip. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of XP 004 (2).JPG] From sandhoff at csus.edu Fri Dec 9 12:53:20 2011 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 11:53:20 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun swap meat in Sacramento, Ca tomorrow (SAT) Message-ID: <4EE1F6B0.28720.8DA5D7@localhost> For anyone in the area that may have some last-minute holiday shopping needs :-) Mostly 510-oriented, but last time I was there (it's a periodic event) I chatted with a Roadster owner that had just rescued a 67.5 2L from the Nevada desert... -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From sumton at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 9 20:28:11 2011 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 21:28:11 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] chrome strips Message-ID: <72250F43DA9247708A14778D604BE6BA@ranteer.local> http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun/DSCN6267.JPG here are the little nuts and bolts. is there a particular order - where to use the long ones and where to use the short ones? and I'm guessing I need to find about a dozen more of those little nuts, right? From mark at dealermats.com Sat Dec 10 14:40:55 2011 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:40:55 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] chrome strips In-Reply-To: <72250F43DA9247708A14778D604BE6BA@ranteer.local> References: <72250F43DA9247708A14778D604BE6BA@ranteer.local> Message-ID: Long ones are the rear ones. If you look there is a seam there so they need to be longer. The rest are just going through sheet metal. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 9, 2011, at 10:28 PM, "oliver" wrote: > http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun/DSCN6267.JPG > > here are the little nuts and bolts. is there a particular order - where to > use the long ones and where to use the short ones? and I'm guessing I need to > find about a dozen more of those little nuts, right? > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/mark at dealermats.com From aultgc at att.net Sat Dec 10 23:22:53 2011 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 00:22:53 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] chrome strips References: <72250F43DA9247708A14778D604BE6BA@ranteer.local> Message-ID: Oliver, The short ones go on the front fender and door stainless steel trim. The long ones are for the rear quarter panels. Three, five and seven, respectively, on low-windshield cars. The longer ones are needed on the rear quarters because there is a a metal fold inside the panel at a seam which the trim conceals. The original nuts are 8mm. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "oliver" To: "Datsun" Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 9:28 PM Subject: [Roadsters] chrome strips > http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun/DSCN6267.JPG > > here are the little nuts and bolts. is there a particular order - where > to > use the long ones and where to use the short ones? and I'm guessing I > need to > find about a dozen more of those little nuts, right? > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From davidoppenheim at cox.net Tue Dec 13 19:22:02 2011 From: davidoppenheim at cox.net (David Oppenheim) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:22:02 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel gauge/ fuel sending unit. Message-ID: <26993D2455AF4B648B8F66D983DF1B10@oppenheim> Fellow members, Recently, I purchased a 1968 datsun roadster 2000. Temp gauge wasn't working and fuel gauge was floating at half a tank. I changed out the temp. sending unit, thermostat housing, water outlet and put in a new drop voltage regulator. Temp. gauge now works as it should, but fuel gauge needle goes up just a smidge past the E (empty) mark on the gauge when I turn the ignition on or star up engine. I thought at first that maybe...or hopefully, I do have an empty gas tank. So, I went to the gas station and put in almost 6 gallons of gas and the tank was FULL. I opened up the access panel to the fuel sending unit and removed the wire connectors. I lightly sanded the tarnish off of the brass or copper nipples and reconnected the wire connectors to the nipples. I still have the same reading on the fuel gauge where the needle moves up to the E mark and then stops. Does anybody know what's going on or what I should do? Should I take the fuel sending unit out? And can I take the fuel sending unit out with a full tank of gas? Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Dave Oppenheim From sandhoff at csus.edu Wed Dec 14 10:59:08 2011 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:59:08 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel gauge/ fuel sending unit. In-Reply-To: <26993D2455AF4B648B8F66D983DF1B10@oppenheim> Message-ID: <4EE8736C.2117.A75B2C8@localhost> > ...but fuel gauge needle goes up just a smidge past the E (empty) > mark on the gauge when I turn the ignition on... The fact that the needle moves indicates the wiring is probably OK, and likely so is the gauge. I'm willing to bet that the sender is shot, but let's double-check. At the tank, pop off the wire that goes between the sender and the gauge (the yellow one) and use a piece of wire to short it to ground. Turn the key on. The gauge should fairly rapidly climb past full. Flip the kay back off. If it does, your sender is bad. You can remove it with a full tank but be very, very careful 'cause making any sort of spark could be very, very bad :-). Disconnect the ground strap on the battery, just to be safe. Best to do it outside, too, for several reasons. Best if you get the level down a gallon or two as well, just so you don't have gasoline sloshing right at the hole. You'll probably find the flat card with a spiral of wire wrapped around it to be trashed. Or, you'll find that the float fell of the end of the arm and is floating in the tank! -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From jh.bahn at verizon.net Fri Dec 16 07:41:38 2011 From: jh.bahn at verizon.net (jh.bahn at verizon.net) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 09:41:38 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Craig Halstead Message-ID: <22E357E563B94138BBC7EF5D19BBEAED@BahnTHINK> Craig: A. Lost your email address B. Did you ever find an alternator for my 411? JH Bahn From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Fri Dec 16 10:33:40 2011 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 12:33:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] Need to insert seat belts Message-ID: <353b9.a6575ec.3c1cdaf4@aol.com> Our '67 early 1600 does not have any seat belts so I am asking where would be the best place to secure the anchor bolts for the belts? Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) / _www.ZRoad.org_ (http://www.zroad.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1967 SPL311-09144 From vulforge at aol.com Fri Dec 16 15:25:53 2011 From: vulforge at aol.com (vulforge at aol.com) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:25:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] seat belts Message-ID: <8CE8A58CE6B00A4-1B10-AB1FF@webmail-m062.sysops.aol.com> I recently put belts in my early '67. There are already threaded inserts behind and beside the seats. One pair is on the trans tunnel about 2" up from the floor right behind the seats. The other is on the angled part of the floor that sloes down from the package shelf to the floor toward the outside of the car. I think theses bolt points may have been intended for the roll bar, but they work fine for seat belts. I don't remember the thread size, might be 3/8 fine? Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1046 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com From aultgc at att.net Fri Dec 16 20:19:37 2011 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:19:37 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] seat belts References: <8CE8A58CE6B00A4-1B10-AB1FF@webmail-m062.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Russell, Those threaded inserts are/were intended for seat belts. My '66 1600 came with factory seat belts installed in those locations. If I understand the laws correctly, seat belt were not required in imported cars until 1968. But, I suspect Nissan installed belts in all their cars headed for the US, and I wouldn't be surprised if Gary's car originally had belts. I wouldn't be surprised to find there are threaded inserts for the shoulder harness installed beginning with '67-1/2 on some of the earlier cars -- under the vinyl. The bolts are 3/8-20. (I just measured the bolts on a set of replacement belts I bought for my '67-1/2.) I think that's National Fine. (I know that 5/16-18 is NC and 5/16-24 is NF, so 3/8-20 seems to make sense as NF.) Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 4:25 PM Subject: [Roadsters] seat belts >I recently put belts in my early '67. There are already threaded inserts > behind and beside the seats. One pair is on the trans tunnel about 2" up > from > the floor right behind the seats. The other is on the angled part of the > floor that sloes down from the package shelf to the floor toward the > outside > of the car. I think theses bolt points may have been intended for the > roll > bar, but they work fine for seat belts. I don't remember the thread size, > might be 3/8 fine? > > > Russell Criswell > Vulcan's Forge > 3936 Broadway > Kansas City, MO > 64111 > > 816-931-6303 > 816-931-9378 fax > 877-531-1046 toll-free > www.vulcans-forge.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From roadster2 at schroeder-family.us Sat Dec 17 00:19:17 2011 From: roadster2 at schroeder-family.us (Fred Schroeder) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 01:19:17 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] seat belts References: <8CE8A58CE6B00A4-1B10-AB1FF@webmail-m062.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <001e01ccbc8c$3101d9f0$6700a8c0@fubar> NC is 3/8-16 NF is 3/8-24 I'm not familiar with 3/8-20. Metric bolts perhaps? Best regards, Fred Schroeder roadster2 at schroeder-family.us Home page: http://schroeder-family.us NRA Life Member Behold the superfluous. They are always sick. They vomit their gall and call it a newspaper. Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche 1844-1900 ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary and Cindy Ault To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net ; vulforge at aol.com Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] seat belts Russell, Those threaded inserts are/were intended for seat belts. My '66 1600 came with factory seat belts installed in those locations. If I understand the laws correctly, seat belt were not required in imported cars until 1968. But, I suspect Nissan installed belts in all their cars headed for the US, and I wouldn't be surprised if Gary's car originally had belts. I wouldn't be surprised to find there are threaded inserts for the shoulder harness installed beginning with '67-1/2 on some of the earlier cars -- under the vinyl. The bolts are 3/8-20. (I just measured the bolts on a set of replacement belts I bought for my '67-1/2.) I think that's National Fine. (I know that 5/16-18 is NC and 5/16-24 is NF, so 3/8-20 seems to make sense as NF.) Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 4:25 PM Subject: [Roadsters] seat belts >I recently put belts in my early '67. There are already threaded inserts > behind and beside the seats. One pair is on the trans tunnel about 2" up > from > the floor right behind the seats. The other is on the angled part of the > floor that sloes down from the package shelf to the floor toward the > outside > of the car. I think theses bolt points may have been intended for the > roll > bar, but they work fine for seat belts. I don't remember the thread size, > might be 3/8 fine? > > > Russell Criswell > Vulcan's Forge > 3936 Broadway > Kansas City, MO > 64111 > > 816-931-6303 > 816-931-9378 fax > 877-531-1046 toll-free > www.vulcans-forge.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadster2 at schroeder-fa mily.us From tputland at charter.net Sun Dec 18 16:50:06 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 18:50:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] OT--evilbay searching for ended items Message-ID: <3a8c7f7b.57988.134539514b1.Webtop.46@charter.net> I need to be relearned how to search for evilbay auctions that have ended. Does anyone here know how to do this so I can be re-edumacated? Grassyass! Tim From slowboy at cox.net Sun Dec 18 17:31:38 2011 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 17:31:38 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT--evilbay searching for ended items In-Reply-To: <3a8c7f7b.57988.134539514b1.Webtop.46@charter.net> References: <3a8c7f7b.57988.134539514b1.Webtop.46@charter.net> Message-ID: <000601ccbde5$9240ea30$b6c2be90$@cox.net> Click the advanced search button and look for the completed listings option -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 4:50 PM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] OT--evilbay searching for ended items I need to be relearned how to search for evilbay auctions that have ended. Does anyone here know how to do this so I can be re-edumacated? Grassyass! Tim From graemes at internode.on.net Sun Dec 18 17:33:45 2011 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 11:03:45 +1030 Subject: [Roadsters] OT--evilbay searching for ended items or Completed listings. In-Reply-To: <3a8c7f7b.57988.134539514b1.Webtop.46@charter.net> References: <3a8c7f7b.57988.134539514b1.Webtop.46@charter.net> Message-ID: <4EEE8669.9020801@internode.on.net> Log in, click on "ADVANCED" to the RHS of the "SEARCH" button, under "Search including" check COMPLETED LISTINGS". I think:-) Regards, Graeme SucklingSearch including 1965 SP310 Datsun Sports 1971 P510 Datsun 1600 1972 PL510 Datsun 1600 LHD 1973 HS30 Datsun 240Z 1984 B120 Datsun 1200 utility 1993 ECR33 Skyline GTS25t http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia. On 19/12/2011 10:20 AM, Tim wrote: > I need to be relearned how to search for evilbay auctions that have > ended. Does anyone here know how to do this so I can be re-edumacated? > > Grassyass! > > Tim > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on.net From james-culp at charter.net Mon Dec 19 09:54:16 2011 From: james-culp at charter.net (James L Culp) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 11:54:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] seat belts Message-ID: <4a2e0689.2de26.134573ebb2a.Webtop.44@charter.net> For clarification.. 3/8-16 is UNC - UNC means unified coarse which is a special case of UN 3/8-20 is UN - UN means unified or the standard 3/8-24 is UNF - UNF means unified fine which is also a special case of UN Interestingly, I've found through the years that most bolts usually fit in the category of coarse or fine and not the standard! I have a '66 1600... I ran a 3/8-20 clearance tap in my seat belt threaded inserts and found it to be the correct size. An M8(metric) any thread pitch falls in the hole and a M10 is just too large. James On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Fred Schroeder wrote: > NC is 3/8-16 > NF is 3/8-24 > > I'm not familiar with 3/8-20. Metric bolts perhaps? > > Best regards, > > Fred Schroeder > roadster2 at schroeder-family.us > Home page: http://schroeder-family.us > NRA Life Member > > Behold the superfluous. They are always sick. They > vomit their gall and call it a newspaper. > Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche 1844-1900 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gary and Cindy Ault > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net ; vulforge at aol.com > Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 9:19 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] seat belts > > > Russell, > > Those threaded inserts are/were intended for seat belts. My '66 > 1600 came > with factory seat belts installed in those locations. If I > understand the > laws correctly, seat belt were not required in imported cars until > 1968. > But, I suspect Nissan installed belts in all their cars headed for > the US, > and I wouldn't be surprised if Gary's car originally had belts. > > I wouldn't be surprised to find there are threaded inserts for the > shoulder > harness installed beginning with '67-1/2 on some of the earlier cars > -- > under the vinyl. > > The bolts are 3/8-20. (I just measured the bolts on a set of > replacement > belts I bought for my '67-1/2.) I think that's National Fine. (I > know that > 5/16-18 is NC and 5/16-24 is NF, so 3/8-20 seems to make sense as > NF.) > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 4:25 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] seat belts > > >> I recently put belts in my early '67. There are already threaded >> inserts >> behind and beside the seats. One pair is on the trans tunnel about >> 2" up >> from >> the floor right behind the seats. The other is on the angled part of >> the >> floor that sloes down from the package shelf to the floor toward the >> outside >> of the car. I think theses bolt points may have been intended for >> the >> roll >> bar, but they work fine for seat belts. I don't remember the thread > size, >> might be 3/8 fine? >> >> >> Russell Criswell >> Vulcan's Forge >> 3936 Broadway >> Kansas City, MO >> 64111 >> >> 816-931-6303 >> 816-931-9378 fax >> 877-531-1046 toll-free >> www.vulcans-forge.com >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadster2 at schroeder-fa > mily.us > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/james-culp at charter.net From tputland at charter.net Wed Dec 21 06:48:07 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:48:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] Slightly OT--car won't start Message-ID: <7d768fef.6afbf.13460e10a48.Webtop.49@charter.net> Sorry for the OT here but I cannot afford to have this car towed to the mechanic for diagnosis. I hope to deal with this one myself..... 92 Ford Tempo, less than 65K miles--legitimate miles as it only had 51K on it when we got it and had the original plug wires dated 1992 when we got the car. It was a true little old lady car. It has run decent since being given to us by my wife's dad for my daughters's use several years ago. Car has not really been driven much since my youngest went to college this past fall. Battery is fully charged right now with battery tender use and fuel stable put in tank a couple months ago. I tried to start the car yesterday (approx 35 degrees at the time) and it was acting like the battery was down on charge: barely turning over. I hooked up my battery charger, put it on the "start" setting and tried again. I basically got the same result with only slightly faster turn over speed. The starter has always sounded good and the car has always started since we got it. We have had very little cold weather so far this season with temp in the 30s and 40s during the day and only a couple nights below 20 degrees. I am going to get some starting fluid in hopes it might be enough to kick it going with the slow starter speed but am not hopeful. Any thoughts? Thanks all!!! tim From srl311xp at yahoo.com Wed Dec 21 09:55:35 2011 From: srl311xp at yahoo.com (Todd Green) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:55:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Message-ID: <1324486535.21219.yint-ygo-j2me@web120405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> http://www.viajesliberales.com.ar/seruytigfn.html From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 21 09:56:37 2011 From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Prather) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:56:37 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Slightly OT--car won't start In-Reply-To: <7d768fef.6afbf.13460e10a48.Webtop.49@charter.net> References: <7d768fef.6afbf.13460e10a48.Webtop.49@charter.net> Message-ID: <83B0125D-9088-433F-BC9B-BC366F87CC40@sbcglobal.net> First thing I would do is check for spark. Insert head of screwdriver into one of the plug wires as though you are extending the cable and get screwdriver as close to ground without touching and see if you get a spark when cranking. If you do it's probably just a matter of priming the fuel. Sent from Ipad On Dec 21, 2011, at 5:48 AM, Tim wrote: > Sorry for the OT here but I cannot afford to have this car towed to the > mechanic for diagnosis. I hope to deal with this one myself..... > > 92 Ford Tempo, less than 65K miles--legitimate miles as it only had 51K > on it when we got it and had the original plug wires dated 1992 when we > got the car. It was a true little old lady car. It has run decent since > being given to us by my wife's dad for my daughters's use several years > ago. Car has not really been driven much since my youngest went to > college this past fall. > > Battery is fully charged right now with battery tender use and fuel > stable put in tank a couple months ago. I tried to start the car > yesterday (approx 35 degrees at the time) and it was acting like the > battery was down on charge: barely turning over. I hooked up my battery > charger, put it on the "start" setting and tried again. I basically got > the same result with only slightly faster turn over speed. The starter > has always sounded good and the car has always started since we got it. > > We have had very little cold weather so far this season with temp in the > 30s and 40s during the day and only a couple nights below 20 degrees. > > I am going to get some starting fluid in hopes it might be enough to > kick it going with the slow starter speed but am not hopeful. > > Any thoughts? > > Thanks all!!! > > tim > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tomet9 at sbcglobal.net From robbieharrison at comcast.net Wed Dec 21 10:57:48 2011 From: robbieharrison at comcast.net (Robbie Harrison) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 12:57:48 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Slightly OT--car won't start In-Reply-To: <7d768fef.6afbf.13460e10a48.Webtop.49@charter.net> References: <7d768fef.6afbf.13460e10a48.Webtop.49@charter.net> Message-ID: <001b01ccc00a$12dc86b0$38959410$@comcast.net> I had similar symptoms with my Fiero, turned out the battery was shot, even though it appeared to be charging on trickle charger. Switching to "start" on the charger still wouldn't get it going, starter would barely turn. Swapped in a new battery and it fired right up Robbie in CT -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 8:48 AM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Slightly OT--car won't start Sorry for the OT here but I cannot afford to have this car towed to the mechanic for diagnosis. I hope to deal with this one myself..... 92 Ford Tempo, less than 65K miles--legitimate miles as it only had 51K on it when we got it and had the original plug wires dated 1992 when we got the car. It was a true little old lady car. It has run decent since being given to us by my wife's dad for my daughters's use several years ago. Car has not really been driven much since my youngest went to college this past fall. Battery is fully charged right now with battery tender use and fuel stable put in tank a couple months ago. I tried to start the car yesterday (approx 35 degrees at the time) and it was acting like the battery was down on charge: barely turning over. I hooked up my battery charger, put it on the "start" setting and tried again. I basically got the same result with only slightly faster turn over speed. The starter has always sounded good and the car has always started since we got it. We have had very little cold weather so far this season with temp in the 30s and 40s during the day and only a couple nights below 20 degrees. I am going to get some starting fluid in hopes it might be enough to kick it going with the slow starter speed but am not hopeful. Any thoughts? Thanks all!!! tim ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/robbieharrison at comcas t.net From timbob_fisher at yahoo.com Wed Dec 21 12:39:25 2011 From: timbob_fisher at yahoo.com (tim fisher) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:39:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Slightly OT--car won't start In-Reply-To: <001b01ccc00a$12dc86b0$38959410$@comcast.net> References: <7d768fef.6afbf.13460e10a48.Webtop.49@charter.net> <001b01ccc00a$12dc86b0$38959410$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1324496365.89151.YahooMailNeo@web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> How about a jump start? ________________________________ From: Robbie Harrison To: 'Tim' ; 'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net' Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Slightly OT--car won't start I had similar symptoms with my Fiero, turned out the battery was shot, even though it appeared to be charging on trickle charger. Switching to "start" on the charger still wouldn't get it going, starter would barely turn. Swapped in a new battery and it fired right up Robbie in CT -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 8:48 AM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Slightly OT--car won't start Sorry for the OT here but I cannot afford to have this car towed to the mechanic for diagnosis. I hope to deal with this one myself..... 92 Ford Tempo, less than 65K miles--legitimate miles as it only had 51K on it when we got it and had the original plug wires dated 1992 when we got the car. It was a true little old lady car. It has run decent since being given to us by my wife's dad for my daughters's use several years ago. Car has not really been driven much since my youngest went to college this past fall. Battery is fully charged right now with battery tender use and fuel stable put in tank a couple months ago. I tried to start the car yesterday (approx 35 degrees at the time) and it was acting like the battery was down on charge: barely turning over. I hooked up my battery charger, put it on the "start" setting and tried again. I basically got the same result with only slightly faster turn over speed. The starter has always sounded good and the car has always started since we got it. We have had very little cold weather so far this season with temp in the 30s and 40s during the day and only a couple nights below 20 degrees. I am going to get some starting fluid in hopes it might be enough to kick it going with the slow starter speed but am not hopeful. Any thoughts? Thanks all!!! tim ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/robbieharrison at comcas t.net ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/timbob_fisher at yahoo.co m From tpb73 at yahoo.com Wed Dec 21 13:06:28 2011 From: tpb73 at yahoo.com (Pete Koernig) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 12:06:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Slightly OT--car won't start In-Reply-To: <7d768fef.6afbf.13460e10a48.Webtop.49@charter.net> References: <7d768fef.6afbf.13460e10a48.Webtop.49@charter.net> Message-ID: <1324497988.91757.YahooMailNeo@web114519.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Don't trust the battery. Take out and haul to O'Reilly/Autozone, etc --- will check for free. Try jump start from battey on running car/truck Be carefull about starter fluid if Tempo is fuel injected --- could do harm (speculation) Pete Koernig (waaay tooo much experience with kid's cars). >________________________________ > From: Tim >To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net >Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 6:48 AM >Subject: [Roadsters] Slightly OT--car won't start > >Sorry for the OT here but I cannot afford to have this car towed to the >mechanic for diagnosis. I hope to deal with this one myself..... > >92 Ford Tempo, less than 65K miles--legitimate miles as it only had 51K >on it when we got it and had the original plug wires dated 1992 when we >got the car. It was a true little old lady car. It has run decent since >being given to us by my wife's dad for my daughters's use several years >ago. Car has not really been driven much since my youngest went to >college this past fall. > >Battery is fully charged right now with battery tender use and fuel >stable put in tank a couple months ago. I tried to start the car >yesterday (approx 35 degrees at the time) and it was acting like the >battery was down on charge: barely turning over. I hooked up my battery >charger, put it on the "start" setting and tried again. I basically got >the same result with only slightly faster turn over speed. The starter >has always sounded good and the car has always started since we got it. > >We have had very little cold weather so far this season with temp in the >30s and 40s during the day and only a couple nights below 20 degrees. > >I am going to get some starting fluid in hopes it might be enough to >kick it going with the slow starter speed but am not hopeful. > >Any thoughts? > >Thanks all!!! > >tim >________________________________________ > >datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tpb73 at yahoo.com From vulforge at aol.com Wed Dec 21 20:45:32 2011 From: vulforge at aol.com (vulforge at aol.com) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 22:45:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] 92 Tempo Message-ID: <8CE8E734A14172E-1070-CF955@webmail-d078.sysops.aol.com> Pull the battery and take it to your local parst supplier for a charge and load test. If it passes (and I suspect it will not) thoroughly clean and tighten the battery cables. If you are in a hurry to get it going, jump start from another car. A 25 amp battery charger will not provide nearly enough current to start a car with a low battery. Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1046 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com From robbieharrison at comcast.net Thu Dec 22 07:02:51 2011 From: robbieharrison at comcast.net (Robbie Harrison) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:02:51 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Slightly OT--car won't start In-Reply-To: <1324496365.89151.YahooMailNeo@web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <7d768fef.6afbf.13460e10a48.Webtop.49@charter.net> <001b01ccc00a$12dc86b0$38959410$@comcast.net> <1324496365.89151.YahooMailNeo@web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001201ccc0b2$6b2e4d50$418ae7f0$@comcast.net> Jump starting the Fiero is a pain - side posts with tiny connectors, located right behind the passenger seat. When the charger would not start it I just yanked the battery and had it tested. It failed miserably. From: tim fisher [mailto:timbob_fisher at yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 2:39 PM To: Robbie Harrison; 'Tim'; 'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Slightly OT--car won't start How about a jump start? _____ From: Robbie Harrison To: 'Tim' ; 'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net' Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Slightly OT--car won't start I had similar symptoms with my Fiero, turned out the battery was shot, even though it appeared to be charging on trickle charger. Switching to "start" on the charger still wouldn't get it going, starter would barely turn. Swapped in a new battery and it fired right up Robbie in CT -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 8:48 AM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Slightly OT--car won't start Sorry for the OT here but I cannot afford to have this car towed to the mechanic for diagnosis. I hope to deal with this one myself..... 92 Ford Tempo, less than 65K miles--legitimate miles as it only had 51K on it when we got it and had the original plug wires dated 1992 when we got the car. It was a true little old lady car. It has run decent since being given to us by my wife's dad for my daughters's use several years ago. Car has not really been driven much since my youngest went to college this past fall. Battery is fully charged right now with battery tender use and fuel stable put in tank a couple months ago. I tried to start the car yesterday (approx 35 degrees at the time) and it was acting like the battery was down on charge: barely turning over. I hooked up my battery charger, put it on the "start" setting and tried again. I basically got the same result with only slightly faster turn over speed. The starter has always sounded good and the car has always started since we got it. We have had very little cold weather so far this season with temp in the 30s and 40s during the day and only a couple nights below 20 degrees. I am going to get some starting fluid in hopes it might be enough to kick it going with the slow starter speed but am not hopeful. Any thoughts? Thanks all!!! tim ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/robbieharrison at comcas t.net ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/timbob_fisher at yahoo.c om From tputland at charter.net Thu Dec 22 07:22:07 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:22:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] Slightly OT--car won't start Message-ID: <4907054a.75be9.134662682f8.Webtop.47@charter.net> Thanks again to all who replied. Sorry for the verboseness here.... I had checked the terminals, grounds, cables, etc. (learned about this part from the Datto!). When the battery showed fully charged on the tender, I assumed (incorrectly) that the battery was fine. This was my first experience with a failed battery AND a battery tender. I didn't know that a battery can show fully charged and still be bad (a new thing learned!!!). So, after minor surgery to just get the old battery out ( I had to remove the air filter box, three hoses and two electrical connections to get to the bottom of the battery hold down as the nut and bolt were just spinning). I placed a different battery in the car and it was an immediate improvement in engine turn over speed. But the car still would not start. Since this new battery was too big, I had to go buy one that was the correct size. Once installed the car would still not start. Well, dumbassthatIam, there is not a car in the world that will start with the coil wire disconnected (had to move it as it was in the way of pulling a hose to get the air box out). So, reconnect the coil wire and it fired right up. So, like i said, another thing learned! My daughter, bless her heart, asked me if I wanted money for the battery! I told her not necessarily as I knew she HAD no clue what automotive batteries cost. The look on her face later on when I told her how much I paid yesterday? PRICELESS!! Thanks again too all who replied!! Happy Holidays All!!! A little less clueless today than yesterday Tim From ljordan704 at netscape.net Thu Dec 22 07:54:42 2011 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 06:54:42 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Slightly OT--car won't start In-Reply-To: <4907054a.75be9.134662682f8.Webtop.47@charter.net> References: <4907054a.75be9.134662682f8.Webtop.47@charter.net> Message-ID: Not too late to teach your daughter about checking a battery. She might need to know someday. Linda Sent from my iPod On Dec 22, 2011, at 6:22 AM, Tim wrote: > Thanks again to all who replied. Sorry for the verboseness here.... > > I had checked the terminals, grounds, cables, etc. (learned about this > part from the Datto!). > > When the battery showed fully charged on the tender, I assumed > (incorrectly) that the battery was fine. > > This was my first experience with a failed battery AND a battery tender. > I didn't know that a battery can show fully charged and still be bad (a > new thing learned!!!). > > So, after minor surgery to just get the old battery out ( I had to > remove the air filter box, three hoses and two electrical connections to > get to the bottom of the battery hold down as the nut and bolt were just > spinning). I placed a different battery in the car and it was an > immediate improvement in engine turn over speed. But the car still would > not start. Since this new battery was too big, I had to go buy one that > was the correct size. Once installed the car would still not start. > Well, dumbassthatIam, there is not a car in the world that will start > with the coil wire disconnected (had to move it as it was in the way of > pulling a hose to get the air box out). So, reconnect the coil wire and > it fired right up. > > So, like i said, another thing learned! > > My daughter, bless her heart, asked me if I wanted money for the > battery! I told her not necessarily as I knew she HAD no clue what > automotive batteries cost. The look on her face later on when I told her > how much I paid yesterday? PRICELESS!! > > Thanks again too all who replied!! > > Happy Holidays All!!! > > A little less clueless today than yesterday > Tim > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From tputland at charter.net Thu Dec 22 08:28:08 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 10:28:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] Slightly OT--car won't start Message-ID: <1a172e7a.7676a.1346662f3cf.Webtop.47@charter.net> Yea, hopefully this summer when both girls are home (or once one of them gets stranded then they will make time for Dad's paranoia!). When my youngest was senior in HS she was too busy for that stuff Dad! lol On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 8:54 AM, ljordan704 wrote: > Not too late to teach your daughter about checking a battery. She > might need to know someday. > > Linda > > Sent from my iPod > > On Dec 22, 2011, at 6:22 AM, Tim wrote: > >> Thanks again to all who replied. Sorry for the verboseness here.... >> >> I had checked the terminals, grounds, cables, etc. (learned about >> this part from the Datto!). >> >> When the battery showed fully charged on the tender, I assumed >> (incorrectly) that the battery was fine. >> >> This was my first experience with a failed battery AND a battery >> tender. I didn't know that a battery can show fully charged and still >> be bad (a new thing learned!!!). >> >> So, after minor surgery to just get the old battery out ( I had to >> remove the air filter box, three hoses and two electrical connections >> to get to the bottom of the battery hold down as the nut and bolt >> were just spinning). I placed a different battery in the car and it >> was an immediate improvement in engine turn over speed. But the car >> still would not start. Since this new battery was too big, I had to >> go buy one that was the correct size. Once installed the car would >> still not start. Well, dumbassthatIam, there is not a car in the >> world that will start with the coil wire disconnected (had to move it >> as it was in the way of pulling a hose to get the air box out). So, >> reconnect the coil wire and it fired right up. >> >> So, like i said, another thing learned! >> >> My daughter, bless her heart, asked me if I wanted money for the >> battery! I told her not necessarily as I knew she HAD no clue what >> automotive batteries cost. The look on her face later on when I told >> her how much I paid yesterday? PRICELESS!! >> >> Thanks again too all who replied!! >> >> Happy Holidays All!!! >> >> A little less clueless today than yesterday >> Tim >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.net From krismon at ongbongan.com Thu Dec 22 09:35:26 2011 From: krismon at ongbongan.com (Krismon ongbongan) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 08:35:26 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] fuel gauge troubleshooting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >From all the way back in October! I finally got to it this week.. popped the access panel off in the trunk.. and there it was! a dangling yellow wire. wasn't snapped in place properly after I had the tank out to be resealed last summer, I guess... that's why sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't, then eventually fell off altogether. I did check the wire direct to ground before I put it back in place, and it moves all the way up. That said.. when full, it still shows 1/4 tank on the gauge.. since the tank is full, there's a bit of driving ahead of me before I can pull the sender out to check it. Thanks for all the tips. Kris. On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > Krismon, > > Get wiring diagram from 311s.org website, then check all connections and > grounds. If temperature gauge works, the problem is probably in the wiring > from the gauge through the sender to ground, or the sender. You can pull > the sender via the access panel in the trunk floor and check its operation. > > I am told that the standard for the fuel sending unit is 83 ohms +/_ empty > and 12 ohms +/- Full. If you do choose to remove the sender, be careful not > to damage the exposed resistor windings. > > I have run the wiring on my fuel gauge from the 12 volt source through the > gauge to the sender to ground, and haven't been able to get the temp and > fuel gauges working again. So, patience. > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krismon ongbongan" > > To: "roadster list" > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 7:29 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] fuel gauge troubleshooting > > >> any tips on troubleshooting the fuel gauge on my '69. >> >> background: >> oil pressure, temp gauge works.. ammeter is unhooked (presumably from a >> motor swap years ago). >> It did "work" when I got the car earlier this year.. a Full tank showed as >> 1/4, now the needle doesn't even move... swapped out a voltage regulator a >> couple of months back (with one from a 510) when the temp gauge & oil >> pressure stopped moving.. but fuel gauge never came back. >> I did have the tank pulled out to be refurbished this past spring, too... >> >> So..now the question.. how do I tell whether it's the sender or the gauge? >> easy way to probe with a multimeter? >> >> Kris. >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From rabush2000 at hotmail.com Thu Dec 22 12:40:43 2011 From: rabush2000 at hotmail.com (Richard Bush) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:40:43 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 1600 Ebay In-Reply-To: <4EE8736C.2117.A75B2C8@localhost> References: <4EE8736C.2117.A75B2C8@localhost> Message-ID: > Is anyone familiar with the 1600 for sale on Ebay; Item number: 140666473447 Richard Bush cell: 512 574 8081 From lewharve at hotmail.com Fri Dec 23 12:00:51 2011 From: lewharve at hotmail.com (Lewis Harvey) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:00:51 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] [Roadsters 1600 In-Reply-To: References: <4EE8736C.2117.A75B2C8@localhost>, Message-ID: will this post I have not been able to get to the web site to post. let me know how. I carged the battery and it cranks and has current to the distributor. got to get it driving in 2012 > From: rabush2000 at hotmail.com > Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:40:43 -0600 > To: sandhoff at csus.edu > CC: davidoppenheim at cox.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 1600 Ebay > > > Is anyone familiar with the 1600 for sale on Ebay; Item number: > 140666473447 > > Richard Bush > cell: 512 574 8081 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/lewharve at hotmail.com From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com Fri Dec 23 12:01:34 2011 From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:01:34 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Craig Halsted? Message-ID: Lost Craig's email address. Craig, email me off line. Paul Ohio From rabush2000 at hotmail.com Fri Dec 23 12:21:18 2011 From: rabush2000 at hotmail.com (Richard Bush) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 13:21:18 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Windshields In-Reply-To: References: <4EE8736C.2117.A75B2C8@localhost>, Message-ID: > Question for the group: I have an Infiniti with a cracked windshield that needs to be replaced. Infiniti are quoting me $1,500 for "factory" glass, everyone else less than $500. Is there any justification to purchase via Infiniti (or Nissan) or can I safely go with a cheaper option? Any advice - things I should be looking for? Thanks and may your holidays be safe, healthy and those up north, warm. On Dec 23, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Lewis Harvey wrote: > will this post I have not been able to get to the web site to post. let me > know how. > I carged the battery and it cranks and has current to the distributor. got to > get it driving in 2012 > > >> From: rabush2000 at hotmail.com >> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:40:43 -0600 >> To: sandhoff at csus.edu >> CC: davidoppenheim at cox.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 1600 Ebay >> >>> Is anyone familiar with the 1600 for sale on Ebay; Item number: >> 140666473447 >> >> Richard Bush >> cell: 512 574 8081 >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/lewharve at hotmail.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rabush2000 at hotmail.com > > > Richard Bush cell: 512 574 8081 From tpb73 at yahoo.com Fri Dec 23 13:36:47 2011 From: tpb73 at yahoo.com (Pete Koernig) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 12:36:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Windshields In-Reply-To: References: <4EE8736C.2117.A75B2C8@localhost>, Message-ID: <1324672607.89369.YahooMailNeo@web114515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> If insurance company will buy "off" brand it meets safety requirements --- the dealer has a better mark-up than most.. My experience 25% to 33% of "list" price is what you should pay. Pete Koernig '70 1600 and '69 2000 ________________________________ From: Richard Bush To: Lewis Harvey Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 12:21 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Windshields > Question for the group: I have an Infiniti with a cracked windshield that needs to be replaced. Infiniti are quoting me $1,500 for "factory" glass, everyone else less than $500. Is there any justification to purchase via Infiniti (or Nissan) or can I safely go with a cheaper option? Any advice - things I should be looking for? Thanks and may your holidays be safe, healthy and those up north, warm. On Dec 23, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Lewis Harvey wrote: > will this post I have not been able to get to the web site to post. let me > know how. > I carged the battery and it cranks and has current to the distributor. got to > get it driving in 2012 > > >> From: rabush2000 at hotmail.com >> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:40:43 -0600 >> To: sandhoff at csus.edu >> CC: davidoppenheim at cox.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 1600 Ebay >> >>> Is anyone familiar with the 1600 for sale on Ebay; Item number: >> 140666473447 >> >> Richard Bush >> cell: 512 574 8081 >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/lewharve at hotmail.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rabush2000 at hotmail.com > > > Richard Bush cell: 512 574 8081 ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tpb73 at yahoo.com From jsk977 at optonline.net Fri Dec 23 20:53:12 2011 From: jsk977 at optonline.net (jsk977 at optonline.net) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 03:53:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Roadsters] Windshields In-Reply-To: References: <4EE8736C.2117.A75B2C8@localhost> Message-ID: Does the car have rain sensing wipers? If so the OEM windshield will come with a new infrared sensor attached while the aftermarket ones usually require it to be moved from the old windshield. Cheaper but the adhesive only lasts 1 -2 years before letting go. Jerry Krakauer ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Bush Date: Friday, December 23, 2011 2:21 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Windshields To: Lewis Harvey Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Question for the group: I have an Infiniti with a cracked > windshield that > needs to be replaced. > > Infiniti are quoting me $1,500 for "factory" glass, everyone > else less than > $500. Is there any justification to purchase via Infiniti (or > Nissan) or can I > safely go with a cheaper option? Any advice - things I should be > looking for? > > Thanks and may your holidays be safe, healthy and those up > north, warm. From Keith0alan at aol.com Sat Dec 24 06:26:29 2011 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 08:26:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] Windshields Message-ID: <63d31.5b3b04aa.3c272d05@aol.com> One thing I have seen with aftermarket glass is that it seems to be ripply. Looking straight through it is fine but if you look at a shallow angle you can see lots of distortion. Makes no difference for normal driving but just slightly alloying. keith In a message dated 12/23/2011 7:54:05 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, jsk977 at optonline.net writes: Does the car have rain sensing wipers? If so the OEM windshield will come with a new infrared sensor attached while the aftermarket ones usually require it to be moved from the old windshield. Cheaper but the adhesive only lasts 1 -2 years before letting go. Jerry Krakauer ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Bush Date: Friday, December 23, 2011 2:21 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Windshields To: Lewis Harvey Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Question for the group: I have an Infiniti with a cracked > windshield that > needs to be replaced. > > Infiniti are quoting me $1,500 for "factory" glass, everyone > else less than > $500. Is there any justification to purchase via Infiniti (or > Nissan) or can I > safely go with a cheaper option? Any advice - things I should be > looking for? > > Thanks and may your holidays be safe, healthy and those up > north, warm. ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keith0alan at aol.com From usagreen at aol.com Sat Dec 24 06:43:19 2011 From: usagreen at aol.com (Scott) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 08:43:19 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Windshields In-Reply-To: <63d31.5b3b04aa.3c272d05@aol.com> References: <63d31.5b3b04aa.3c272d05@aol.com> Message-ID: <68FAE044-5C43-42CD-B018-131E3B927FDA@aol.com> Some firm makes the glass for infinity ,find who that is and buy that brand and you will have same glass at a huge savings Life is good On Dec 24, 2011, at 8:26 AM, Keith0alan at aol.com wrote: > One thing I have seen with aftermarket glass is that it seems to be ripply. > Looking straight through it is fine but if you look at a shallow angle you > can see lots of distortion. Makes no difference for normal driving but > just slightly alloying. > > keith > > > In a message dated 12/23/2011 7:54:05 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > jsk977 at optonline.net writes: > > Does the car have rain sensing wipers? If so the OEM windshield will come > with a new infrared sensor attached while the aftermarket ones usually > require it to be moved from the old windshield. Cheaper but the adhesive only > lasts 1 -2 years before letting go. > > Jerry Krakauer > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Richard Bush > Date: Friday, December 23, 2011 2:21 pm > Subject: [Roadsters] Windshields > To: Lewis Harvey > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > >>> Question for the group: I have an Infiniti with a cracked >> windshield that >> needs to be replaced. >> >> Infiniti are quoting me $1,500 for "factory" glass, everyone >> else less than >> $500. Is there any justification to purchase via Infiniti (or >> Nissan) or can I >> safely go with a cheaper option? Any advice - things I should be >> looking for? >> >> Thanks and may your holidays be safe, healthy and those up >> north, warm. > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keith0alan at aol.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/usagreen at aol.com From wilhouse at charter.net Sat Dec 24 07:18:10 2011 From: wilhouse at charter.net (Ken & Tammy Williams) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 08:18:10 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Windshields References: <4EE8736C.2117.A75B2C8@localhost> Message-ID: <373295580075439CA4CA3CA78506696E@wilhouse> FWIW we recently had the windshield replaced in our Audi. Didn't think about it too much and just called one of the windshield replacement companies to come to the house to replace it. The glass in first windshield was so wavy along the periphery and the lower curved parts, the car was almost un-driveable. I complained and they replaced it, saying our original "was the same way, you just didn't notice". What kind of %@&* excuse is that? They replaced it, but it still isn't right. It is much better, but the glass is distorted at some points. So there may be some of the "you get what you pay for" when it comes to glass replacement. Not such a fan of the guys in the little red trucks, Ken Williams '67 1600 Janesville, WI From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sat Dec 24 07:32:00 2011 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 06:32:00 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Windshields In-Reply-To: <373295580075439CA4CA3CA78506696E@wilhouse> References: <4EE8736C.2117.A75B2C8@localhost> <373295580075439CA4CA3CA78506696E@wilhouse> Message-ID: I saw a Roadster windsheild with tiny bubbles in the glass at the base. Was told that the glass is 2 pieces and poor manufacturing can trap air. Linda Sent from my iPod On Dec 24, 2011, at 6:18 AM, "Ken & Tammy Williams" wrote: > FWIW we recently had the windshield replaced in our Audi. Didn't think about it too much and just called one of the windshield replacement companies to come to the house to replace it. The glass in first windshield was so wavy along the periphery and the lower curved parts, the car was almost un-driveable. I complained and they replaced it, saying our original "was the same way, you just didn't notice". What kind of %@&* excuse is that? They replaced it, but it still isn't right. It is much better, but the glass is distorted at some points. So there may be some of the "you get what you pay for" when it comes to glass replacement. > Not such a fan of the guys in the little red trucks, > Ken Williams > '67 1600 > Janesville, WI > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From datrock at centurytel.net Sat Dec 24 07:57:22 2011 From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 06:57:22 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Windshields In-Reply-To: References: <4EE8736C.2117.A75B2C8@localhost>, Message-ID: <4EF5E852.8000006@centurytel.net> Your Infinty quote may include the new seal or material for a new seal. On my Toyota Pickup, the PO had the windshield replaced and they cut the gasket down to remove the glass, when the new glass and moulding were installed it left a large gap approx 1/8" around the edge of the windshield, I consulted a glass installer and he said in-shop they can put a new seal in but most on the spot installers just use a cutter on the seal and reuse the old one with caulking which leaves a gap. Plus he said Toyota glass was thicker than what is availible from aftermarket glass suppliers. Same may fall into play with Infinty, as mentioned in a previous posting... you get what you pay for. Merry Christmas to all.... Bill From mikefaggart at gmail.com Sat Dec 24 09:04:44 2011 From: mikefaggart at gmail.com (Mike Faggart) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 11:04:44 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Windshields In-Reply-To: References: <4EE8736C.2117.A75B2C8@localhost> Message-ID: I just had a windshield installed on a Maxima and Safelite told me their glass was equal to factory glass. I see no problems. mike faggart no srl at the moment On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Richard Bush wrote: > > Question for the group: I have an Infiniti with a cracked windshield that > needs to be replaced. > > Infiniti are quoting me $1,500 for "factory" glass, everyone else less than > $500. Is there any justification to purchase via Infiniti (or Nissan) or > can I > safely go with a cheaper option? Any advice - things I should be looking > for? > > Thanks and may your holidays be safe, healthy and those up north, warm. > > On Dec 23, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Lewis Harvey wrote: > > > will this post I have not been able to get to the web site to post. let > me > > know how. > > I carged the battery and it cranks and has current to the distributor. > got > to > > get it driving in 2012 > > > > > >> From: rabush2000 at hotmail.com > >> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:40:43 -0600 > >> To: sandhoff at csus.edu > >> CC: davidoppenheim at cox.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > >> Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 1600 Ebay > >> > >>> Is anyone familiar with the 1600 for sale on Ebay; Item number: > >> 140666473447 > >> > >> Richard Bush > >> cell: 512 574 8081 > >> ________________________________________ > >> > >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/lewharve at hotmail.com > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rabush2000 at hotmail.com > > > > > > > > Richard Bush > cell: 512 574 8081 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/mikefaggart at gmail.com > > > -- Mike Faggart From cp0712 at aol.com Sun Dec 25 12:22:53 2011 From: cp0712 at aol.com (Cpowell) Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 14:22:53 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 186 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have just purchased a 1600 roadster appears very good condition, except rocker panel and front quarter panel, any parts availabe? Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2011, at 2:00 PM, datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Send Datsun-roadsters mailing list submissions to > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > datsun-roadsters-owner at autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Datsun-roadsters digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. 1970 1600 Ebay (Richard Bush) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:40:43 -0600 > From: Richard Bush > To: John F Sandhoff > Cc: David Oppenheim , > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 1600 Ebay > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> Is anyone familiar with the 1600 for sale on Ebay; Item number: > 140666473447 > > Richard Bush > cell: 512 574 8081 > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > End of Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 186 > ************************************************ From gsglasgow at comcast.net Sun Dec 25 14:47:12 2011 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 13:47:12 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Merry Christmas and Best Wishes Message-ID: <000001ccc34e$c3505930$49f10b90$@net> I want to wish all my roadster friends (and non-roadster friends, too) a Merry Christmas and best wishes for the new year ahead. I hope you are having the opportunity to spend the holidays with loved ones. But I also realize that the holidays can be a stressful time for some people, a time not always filled with happy memories (just ask our foster daughter). To those people, know that I am keeping all of you in my thoughts, too. You are not alone. Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA From morrelljd at gmail.com Sun Dec 25 18:37:07 2011 From: morrelljd at gmail.com (Jeffrey Morrell) Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 19:37:07 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] How big is the body? Message-ID: Merry Christmas to all! The wife gave me the go ahead and money to vinyl wrap the 1600; I'm looking at the wrap now, but does anyone have any idea about how many sq feet the body is? I figure someone may have come across this when determining how much paint to buy. Much appreciated! Jeff From morrelljd at gmail.com Sun Dec 25 18:41:34 2011 From: morrelljd at gmail.com (Jeffrey Morrell) Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 19:41:34 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] How big is the body? Message-ID: Merry Christmas to all! The wife gave me the go ahead and money to vinyl wrap the 1600; I'm looking at the wrap now, but does anyone have any idea about how many sq feet the body is? I figure someone may have come across this when determining how much paint to buy. Much appreciated! I'm thinking a 5' x 15' roll will be enough but I don't want to overbuy. Any information would be much appreciated. Jeff From spedlyy at comcast.net Sun Dec 25 19:17:22 2011 From: spedlyy at comcast.net (Spedlyy) Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 18:17:22 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] How big is the body? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <24B4C1E1BA224959988B0E11AFBBE6E7@XPS2008> I'll bite Jeff - Why would you want to wrap a roadster in vinyl? -Ed- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey Morrell" To: "Mike Faggart" Cc: Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 5:41 PM Subject: [Roadsters] How big is the body? > Merry Christmas to all! > > The wife gave me the go ahead and money to vinyl wrap the 1600; I'm > looking > at the wrap now, but does anyone have any idea about how many sq feet the > body is? I figure someone may have come across this when determining how > much paint to buy. Much appreciated! I'm thinking a 5' x 15' roll will be > enough but I don't want to overbuy. Any information would be much > appreciated. > > Jeff > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/spedlyy at comcast.net From Pat at HORNESYSTEMSTX.COM Sun Dec 25 20:11:38 2011 From: Pat at HORNESYSTEMSTX.COM (Pat at HORNESYSTEMSTX.COM) Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 20:11:38 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Merry Christmas and Best Wishes Message-ID: <20111225201138.997a8624c2b4dae4e01298000bf07581.49f8e67ec7.wbe@email02.secureserver.net> From gsglasgow at comcast.net Sat Dec 31 12:17:49 2011 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 11:17:49 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Happy New Year and congrats to Gary Boone Message-ID: <000c01ccc7f0$e33dd320$a9b97960$@net> Happy New Year to all our friends in Japan, Australia and points far west from us. And Happy Almost-New Year to everyone else. And congratulations to Gary Boone for getting his car into Grassroots Motorsports magazine (Feb 2012 issue, pg 24). Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA www.gordon-glasgow.org From gjhgerding at tconl.com Sat Dec 31 12:56:42 2011 From: gjhgerding at tconl.com (Gary) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 13:56:42 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] new roadster tires In-Reply-To: <000c01ccc7f0$e33dd320$a9b97960$@net> References: <000c01ccc7f0$e33dd320$a9b97960$@net> Message-ID: <4EFF68FA.7040104@tconl.com> My early 1967 SPL311 roadster tires are now 25 years old and need to be replaced. I'm thinking about Yokohama H4s but don't know the appropriate size to put onto my stock wheels. Or maybe I should get a new set of mag wheels. Also, are there any whitewalls available? I'm still looking for a gas tank sending unit that operates the fuel gauge. Thanks, Gary From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sat Dec 31 13:56:26 2011 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 12:56:26 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] new roadster tires In-Reply-To: <4EFF68FA.7040104@tconl.com> References: <000c01ccc7f0$e33dd320$a9b97960$@net> <4EFF68FA.7040104@tconl.com> Message-ID: <001f01ccc7fe$aa100920$fe301b60$@net> Discussed a zillion times here and 311s.org forums w/ lots of opinions. A snippet from a 2005 thread: ---BEGIN ---------------------------- When questions on replacement tires for a stock rim were posted to this list in Jan, Feb, and April of 2002, the following were some of the size suggestions: 165/80-14 175/65-14 175/70-14 175/75-14 185/60-14 185/65-14 195/60-14 Gordon Glasgow suggested that 5.60-14 was pretty close to 6.00-14, for which an equivalency chart showed 175/70-14 in current sizes. However, Thomas from Sweden said that this size requires a 5-inch rim. I think the stock rim is less than 5 inches. In a thread in April 2002, size 195/65-14 was said to have the diameter of the original tires. --- END -------------------------- The stock wheel width is 4-inches. This increased to 4-1/2 inches in '68(maybe late '67?). People could offer more specific comments if you provided: 1. Brand & size of your current tires. 2. What you do/don't like about them. 3. Why you're thinking the Yokohama H4S as you'll need to pick another tire. The H4S and V4S have been discontinued and replaced by the ENVigor, which is -NOT- available in 14-inch. 4. Type of driving & mileage you do. Hope this helps. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 11:57 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] new roadster tires My early 1967 SPL311 roadster tires are now 25 years old and need to be replaced. I'm thinking about Yokohama H4s but don't know the appropriate size to put onto my stock wheels. Or maybe I should get a new set of mag wheels. Also, are there any whitewalls available? Thanks, Gary From cp0712 at aol.com Sat Dec 31 18:10:46 2011 From: cp0712 at aol.com (Cpowell) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 20:10:46 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Octane Message-ID: As a new owner I do not know what octane/fuel to burn in my 69 roadster 1600. Chuck Powell Jacksonville Fl Sent from my iPad