From datrock at centurytel.net Mon Aug 1 10:40:00 2011 From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole) Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 09:40:00 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 4th Annual Datsun Roadster Run Run/BBQ in Shedd, Oregon Message-ID: <4E36D6E0.3010908@centurytel.net> Its less than 3 weeks until the 4th Annual Shedd BBQ/Fun Run on the 20th of August in Shedd, Oregon. The Fun Run will take us along the foothills of the Cascades with a few stops along the way. Then ending up back at Bill & Karen Neal's place for the gathering of Roadsters. Like each previous year we are hoping to see at least 20 roadsters between the run and BBQ, for roadsters it has been in the teens each year so lets make it 20 this year. Hope to see you there... Bill From datrock at centurytel.net Mon Aug 1 10:46:01 2011 From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole) Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 09:46:01 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Correction Message-ID: <4E36D849.6050109@centurytel.net> Lets call it a Fun Run not Run Run...LOL...Bill From fairlady66 at gmail.com Mon Aug 1 11:06:19 2011 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 10:06:19 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Registration is now OPEN - The First Ever Multi-State GRAND Datsun Classic Message-ID: Registration for the Multi-State GRAND Datsun Classic is open! We have been getting some really good feedback from many Datsun owners in several states that are looking forward to this event. We are working hard to make this a successful show. We can always use support and sponsorships if anyone knows of some that might be willing to work with us please let us know. Registration is up on the SoCalROC website www.socalroc.net If you know of a Datsun owner in any of the surrounding states let them know about the Multi-State GRAND Datsun Classic taking place in Williams, AZ on October 8, 2011 Cheers! -- If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Datsun, then you are lucky enough. From tom at datsun2000.com Mon Aug 1 21:40:59 2011 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 20:40:59 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 4th Annual Datsun Roadster Run Run/BBQ in Shedd, Oregon Message-ID: <20110802034124.WPIR3904.fed1rmfepo103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo03.cox.net> Hi Bill. I really missed not being able to make the BBQ last year, and I wish I could be there this year. BUT, I am seriously considering driving Mr. Hyde up from Las Vegas next year to visit Portland and time the trip to make the BBQ. This is probably been the most fun I have had in Mr. Hyde with a great bunch of people. Bill and Karen Neal are great hosts, and they have a wonderful place to park and show your cars, enjoy a great BBQ and chat with friends, both old and new. Shed is about 60 miles or so South of Portland along I-5 at the Corvallis turnoff. If you have thought about attending before, or are anywhere in the area, you should seriously consider marking this day on your calendar and plan for a wonderful day. I saw and learned things about Oregon I would have never known about otherwise. I would figure for a run of about 100 miles or so if I remember the first two correctly. Don't miss this one. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Las Vegas http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On 8/1/2011 9:40:00 AM, Bill Cole (datrock at centurytel.net) wrote: > Its less than 3 weeks until the 4th Annual Shedd BBQ/Fun Run on the > 20th of August in Shedd, Oregon. The Fun Run will take us along the > foothills of the Cascades with a few stops along the way. Then ending up > back at Bill & Karen Neal's place for the gathering of Roadsters. > Like each previous year we are hoping to see at least 20 roadsters > between the run and BBQ, for roadsters it has been in the teens each > year so lets make it 20 this year. Hope to see you there... Bill > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tom at datsun2000.com From d_kroninger at hotmail.com Thu Aug 4 05:21:46 2011 From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 06:21:46 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Starting issue. Smoke = bad Message-ID: Everyone, I need some help. Over the last week, my car has been on jack stands while I replaced and greased all my grease fittings. I finally finished last night. I put the car back on the ground and tightened everything up. I decided to take the car for a spin to see it is was less squeaky. My battery has a quick disconnect on it, on the positive side. I attached that and turned the key. The starter ran right away and turned a few times. I shut it off since it did not start right away. I have not driven it in two weeks, so this is normal. When I turned the key a second time, I heard a small pop and saw a bit of smoke off the negative terminal. The starter did not go at all. Turned the key a third time, same thing. I tried a fourth time and now I get nothing. I pulled the lights switch and they lit for a second, but now nothing. I checked the battery, and the connections are tight. All fuses are still good. The battery had been disconnected for two weeks, but has been strong. Any thoughts as to why it would turn over fine, but then blow smoke off the battery and die? Thanks in advance for any help. Dan P.S. I did adjust the rear drums and added disc brake quiet to the front discs, if that helps? Didn't touch anything electrical. From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Thu Aug 4 05:42:17 2011 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (cour.jpeg at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 11:42:17 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Starting issue. Smoke = bad In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <685511468-1312458138-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-570272895-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> Battery electrical contact is breaking down, esp when drawing high current. Loosen and remove the Negative clamp and burnish with steel wool or sandpaper. Get bat post and inside of clamp all shiny. Wipe away old grease and particles with a rag soaked with rubbing alcohol. Let evaporate. Install, tighten and try starting. If you have a replacement clamp on there, the kind that takes the old bare wire bundle and clamps the strands under a plate, undo all that and clean it too. Problem there is shining up the bundle of battery cable strands. Better and not expensive to just get a new black/negative cable of the correct length. Burnish the frame end too, if that's the answer. How old is the battery? I've encountered failures internal, where it'll still power headlights, but that pop and puff tells me it's external. Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: Dan Kroninger Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 06:21:46 To: Subject: [Roadsters] Starting issue. Smoke = bad Everyone, I need some help. Over the last week, my car has been on jack stands while I replaced and greased all my grease fittings. I finally finished last night. I put the car back on the ground and tightened everything up. I decided to take the car for a spin to see it is was less squeaky. My battery has a quick disconnect on it, on the positive side. I attached that and turned the key. The starter ran right away and turned a few times. I shut it off since it did not start right away. I have not driven it in two weeks, so this is normal. When I turned the key a second time, I heard a small pop and saw a bit of smoke off the negative terminal. The starter did not go at all. Turned the key a third time, same thing. I tried a fourth time and now I get nothing. I pulled the lights switch and they lit for a second, but now nothing. I checked the battery, and the connections are tight. All fuses are still good. The battery had been disconnected for two weeks, but has been strong. Any thoughts as to why it would turn over fine, but then blow smoke off the battery and die? Thanks in advance for any help. Dan P.S. I did adjust the rear drums and added disc brake quiet to the front discs, if that helps? Didn't touch anything electrical. ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com From hallosb at juno.com Thu Aug 4 13:17:32 2011 From: hallosb at juno.com (hallosb at juno.com) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 19:17:32 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] Starting issue. Smoke = bad Message-ID: <20110804.121732.22978.0@webmail14.vgs.untd.com> Before you go any further, have you installed a fusible link in line with the ammeter? If you have a short somewhere, it's better to blow a fuse than, let your ammeter melt. Don't ask me how I know. Dan'66 1600 ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Dan Kroninger To: Subject: [Roadsters] Starting issue. Smoke = bad Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 06:21:46 -0500 When I turned the key a second time, I heard a small pop and saw a bit of smoke off the negative terminal. The starter did not go at all. Turned the key a third time, same thing. ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Soaring 3000% Sign up for Free to find out what the next 3000% Stock Winner is! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4e3af0a8d4c153e5e6cst02vuc From aultgc at att.net Thu Aug 4 13:26:13 2011 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 12:26:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Starting issue. Smoke = bad In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1312485973.26376.YahooMailRC@web180203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Dan, You omitted some critical information: What is the voltage across the battery terminals? If normal (~12.5), what is the voltage at the positive terminal on the starter? Without further information, if you don't even have lights and you're SURE all the fuses and connections are good, I'd bet on an internal battery fault. Some voltage measurements will give a clue, though. Now, you can have good voltage across the battery, but have a partial internal fault create enough resistance that you cannot crank the engine but the lights will still work. But, nothing at all? Says battery to me. Had an aftermarket alarm system in my '97 Jimmy. One day, it strands me at the market. Cranks a bit, then the alarm goes off and the car won't crank. Played lots of games, but finally called my wife to come with the other car so I could jump the truck. I was convinced it was the alarm system, since it will by design prevent the car from being started in response to certain intrusion events. So, I had the system yanked. Still had a problem. What I didn't remember was that the system would also alarm if someone tried to steal the battery. That should have been a clue. When I checked the batterry terminals, the positive side was hotter than ______. Internal fault at the positive terminal mimicked someone trying to disconnect the cable. New battery solved the problem. (I really didn't need the alarm anyway...) Gary ________________________________ From: Dan Kroninger To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, August 4, 2011 6:21:46 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Starting issue. Smoke = bad Everyone, I need some help. Over the last week, my car has been on jack stands while I replaced and greased all my grease fittings. I finally finished last night. I put the car back on the ground and tightened everything up. I decided to take the car for a spin to see it is was less squeaky. My battery has a quick disconnect on it, on the positive side. I attached that and turned the key. The starter ran right away and turned a few times. I shut it off since it did not start right away. I have not driven it in two weeks, so this is normal. When I turned the key a second time, I heard a small pop and saw a bit of smoke off the negative terminal. The starter did not go at all. Turned the key a third time, same thing. I tried a fourth time and now I get nothing. I pulled the lights switch and they lit for a second, but now nothing. I checked the battery, and the connections are tight. All fuses are still good. The battery had been disconnected for two weeks, but has been strong. Any thoughts as to why it would turn over fine, but then blow smoke off the battery and die? Thanks in advance for any help. Dan P.S. I did adjust the rear drums and added disc brake quiet to the front discs, if that helps? Didn't touch anything electrical. ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com Thu Aug 4 16:01:34 2011 From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 15:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Starting issue. Smoke = bad In-Reply-To: <1312485973.26376.YahooMailRC@web180203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1312485973.26376.YahooMailRC@web180203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1312495294.96211.YahooMailNeo@web130212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My guess: Ammeter. Way to tell: nothing will work except the brake lights. Check that then either jump across it or spend some big bux on a new one. Lucas smoke will not fix this one. Mike Harper, CAI, AARE Harper Auction & Realty 843-729-4996 "Experience Sells" www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET From: Gary and Cindy Ault To: Dan Kroninger ; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starting issue. Smoke = bad Dan, You omitted some critical information: What is the voltage across the battery terminals? If normal (~12.5), what is the voltage at the positive terminal on the starter? Without further information, if you don't even have lights and you're SURE all the fuses and connections are good, I'd bet on an internal battery fault. Some voltage measurements will give a clue, though. Now, you can have good voltage across the battery, but have a partial internal fault create enough resistance that you cannot crank the engine but the lights will still work. But, nothing at all? Says battery to me. Had an aftermarket alarm system in my '97 Jimmy. One day, it strands me at the market. Cranks a bit, then the alarm goes off and the car won't crank. Played lots of games, but finally called my wife to come with the other car so I could jump the truck. I was convinced it was the alarm system, since it will by design prevent the car from being started in response to certain intrusion events. So, I had the system yanked. Still had a problem. What I didn't remember was that the system would also alarm if someone tried to steal the battery. That should have been a clue. When I checked the batterry terminals, the positive side was hotter than ______. Internal fault at the positive terminal mimicked someone trying to disconnect the cable. New battery solved the problem. (I really didn't need the alarm anyway...) Gary ________________________________ From: Dan Kroninger To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, August 4, 2011 6:21:46 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Starting issue. Smoke = bad Everyone, I need some help. Over the last week, my car has been on jack stands while I replaced and greased all my grease fittings. I finally finished last night. I put the car back on the ground and tightened everything up. I decided to take the car for a spin to see it is was less squeaky. My battery has a quick disconnect on it, on the positive side. I attached that and turned the key. The starter ran right away and turned a few times. I shut it off since it did not start right away. I have not driven it in two weeks, so this is normal. When I turned the key a second time, I heard a small pop and saw a bit of smoke off the negative terminal. The starter did not go at all. Turned the key a third time, same thing. I tried a fourth time and now I get nothing. I pulled the lights switch and they lit for a second, but now nothing. I checked the battery, and the connections are tight. All fuses are still good. The battery had been disconnected for two weeks, but has been strong. Any thoughts as to why it would turn over fine, but then blow smoke off the battery and die? Thanks in advance for any help. Dan P.S. I did adjust the rear drums and added disc brake quiet to the front discs, if that helps? Didn't touch anything electrical. ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadsterdude1600 at yahoo .com From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com Thu Aug 4 19:27:30 2011 From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 21:27:30 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Interesting web toy - applicable to roadsters if you want it to be Message-ID: <000301cc530e$d8125770$88370650$@rochester.rr.com> Nice 4 stroke engine model (and it's fun to play with the speed settings) http://weblogs.asp.net/rajbk/pages/silverlight-four-stroke-engine-demo-page. aspx Joe From d_kroninger at hotmail.com Fri Aug 5 05:19:47 2011 From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 06:19:47 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Starting issue. Smoke = bad Message-ID: Everyone, Thank you all for your responses. After work, I stopped at the local parts store and picked up a terminal brush and a new terminal clamp, just in case. I cleaned both terminals, and was stunned by how dirty they were! The looked smooth and grey, but after I cleaned the positive, I realized just how bad the negative was. The positive clamp was pretty nasty and looked like it was not clamping the tightest around the terminal, so I replaced it with the new one. The negative has a quick release, and I cleaned that as well. I reconnected everything and pulled the light switch. We have lights! I turned the key and she fired on the first crank! Took her to the local cruise in and all was well (and squeak free, now that it actually has grease fittings). So bad battery connection it is. Thanks again everyone! Dan Kroninger From roadstergb at aol.com Fri Aug 5 12:30:59 2011 From: roadstergb at aol.com (roadstergb at aol.com) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:30:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 upper chain tensioner Message-ID: <8CE21B4F4B5C8A2-B3C-217CB@webmail-m055.sysops.aol.com> Hi list I'm looking for a good used upper chain tensioner for a 2000, for shipping to England. If you can help, please email me off list with details. Many thanks - and greetings from across the pond! Rob From sandhoff at csus.edu Fri Aug 5 14:21:12 2011 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:21:12 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster sighting Message-ID: <4E3BEE48.22092.F82285@localhost> Tuesday, 02 Aug about 6 PM PDT. Interstate 80 coming off the Bay bridge (San Francisco area), eastbound, silver with I believe Panasports. Part of a mixed load on a multi vehicle (big rig) transport! -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From tpb73 at yahoo.com Fri Aug 5 14:27:38 2011 From: tpb73 at yahoo.com (Pete Koernig) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:27:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Starting issue. Smoke = bad In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1312576058.57605.YahooMailNeo@web114510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I quit fighting the problem of the "add-on" cable end and replaced the complete cable assembly and added those red/green battery washers. Pete '70 1600 on stands (replacing brake lines) '69 2000 that will probably end up for sale --- no time and too hot in AZ. From: Dan Kroninger >To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 4:19 AM >Subject: [Roadsters] Starting issue. Smoke = bad > >Everyone, > >Thank you all for your responses. After work, I stopped at the local parts >store and picked up a terminal brush and a new terminal clamp, just in case. > >I cleaned both terminals, and was stunned by how dirty they were! The looked >smooth and grey, but after I cleaned the positive, I realized just how bad the >negative was. > >The positive clamp was pretty nasty and looked like it was not clamping the >tightest around the terminal, so I replaced it with the new one. The negative >has a quick release, and I cleaned that as well. > >I reconnected everything and pulled the light switch. We have lights! I >turned the key and she fired on the first crank! Took her to the local cruise >in and all was well (and squeak free, now that it actually has grease >fittings). > >So bad battery connection it is. Thanks again everyone! > >Dan Kroninger >________________________________________ > >datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tpb73 at yahoo.com From ljordan704 at netscape.net Fri Aug 5 18:49:21 2011 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:49:21 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Starting issue. Smoke = bad In-Reply-To: <1312576058.57605.YahooMailNeo@web114510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1312576058.57605.YahooMailNeo@web114510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <90B6FF84-A978-4EAE-A407-0C7AB7D40D8D@netscape.net> I think you can soak the whole cable end in vinegar, then rinse to get it shiny. If it is good copper then it is a shame to toss the whole thing. Linda Sent from my iPod On Aug 5, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Pete Koernig wrote: > I quit fighting the problem of the "add-on" cable end and replaced the > complete cable assembly and added those red/green battery washers. > > Pete > '70 > 1600 on stands (replacing brake lines) > '69 2000 that will probably end up for > sale --- no time and too hot in AZ. > > From: Dan Kroninger > >> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Sent: Friday, > August 5, 2011 4:19 AM >> Subject: [Roadsters] Starting issue. Smoke = bad >> >> Everyone, >> >> Thank you all for your responses. After work, I stopped at the > local parts >> store and picked up a terminal brush and a new terminal clamp, > just in case. >> >> I cleaned both terminals, and was stunned by how dirty they > were! The looked >> smooth and grey, but after I cleaned the positive, I > realized just how bad the >> negative was. >> >> The positive clamp was pretty > nasty and looked like it was not clamping the >> tightest around the terminal, > so I replaced it with the new one. The negative >> has a quick release, and I > cleaned that as well. >> >> I reconnected everything and pulled the light > switch. We have lights! I >> turned the key and she fired on the first crank! > Took her to the local cruise >> in and all was well (and squeak free, now that > it actually has grease >> fittings). >> >> So bad battery connection it is. Thanks > again everyone! >> >> Dan Kroninger >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tpb73 at yahoo.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From gsglasgow at comcast.net Sat Aug 6 17:47:35 2011 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 16:47:35 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Interesting web toy - applicable to roadsters if you want it to be In-Reply-To: <000301cc530e$d8125770$88370650$@rochester.rr.com> References: <000301cc530e$d8125770$88370650$@rochester.rr.com> Message-ID: <004201cc5493$39de08c0$ad9a1a40$@net> Very cool! Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Russo Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 6:28 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Interesting web toy - applicable to roadsters if you want it to be Nice 4 stroke engine model (and it's fun to play with the speed settings) http://weblogs.asp.net/rajbk/pages/silverlight-four-stroke-engine-demo-page. aspx Joe ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gsglasgow at comcast.net From 12061997 at comcast.net Sat Aug 6 18:31:56 2011 From: 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 00:31:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] travel Message-ID: <1938613557.225603.1312677116016.JavaMail.root@sz0008a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Hi guys, Do we have someone on the listB around the Saint Marys area in Ohio....thanks, bob ballinger 67-1600 From RobertAuclair1 at aol.com Sun Aug 7 14:18:33 2011 From: RobertAuclair1 at aol.com (RobertAuclair1 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 16:18:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] WTB: 5 Speed Shift Plate Message-ID: <148d4.487c7c63.3b704d18@aol.com> I am looking for a 5 Speed Shift Plate if anybody is willing to part with one. From svedise at hotmail.com Sun Aug 7 19:56:02 2011 From: svedise at hotmail.com (Jim Svedise) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 18:56:02 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 4972 miles to shasta meet & home Message-ID: Sorry if you get this twice it never came back the first time I sent it. http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=refreshPhotos&albumID=580671003 &security=uSjqbF Jim & Susan Svedise 70 2000 From stamuki at gmail.com Mon Aug 8 10:32:11 2011 From: stamuki at gmail.com (D Riedel) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 09:32:11 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] What's the battery group (size) for a '69 2000? Message-ID: I currently have a 10" L x 6.5" W x 8" H battery in my roadster. I could do with a little less height (I can barely get it clamped down). What size are we supposed to be running? Is there a group number? -- Dave Riedel '69 2000 Victoria, BC From aultgc at att.net Mon Aug 8 11:03:35 2011 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 10:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] What's the battery group (size) for a '69 2000? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1312823015.17296.YahooMailRC@web180210.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Dave, I believe the OEM standard was Group 24. That's what I use in my earlier cars, which originally had long, narrow Group 53 batteries. You can run whatever has enough cold cranking amps and total amp-hours to suit your needs, fits in the car, and has battery terminals on the correct ends to allow positive and negative cables to be easily attached. I had to modify an aftermarket hold-down to put the Group 24 in my '66 and reach the hold-down points on the inner fender. Gary ________________________________ From: D Riedel To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, August 8, 2011 11:32:11 AM Subject: [Roadsters] What's the battery group (size) for a '69 2000? I currently have a 10" L x 6.5" W x 8" H battery in my roadster. I could do with a little less height (I can barely get it clamped down). What size are we supposed to be running? Is there a group number? -- Dave Riedel '69 2000 Victoria, BC ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From jsk977 at optonline.net Mon Aug 8 12:59:19 2011 From: jsk977 at optonline.net (Jerry Krakauer) Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 14:59:19 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] What's the battery group (size) for a '69 2000? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001b01cc55fd$47931490$d6b93db0$@net> The original, at least for 67.5, was group 24C, don't think it's available anymore. Jerry Krakauer SRL311 00099 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of D Riedel Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 12:32 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] What's the battery group (size) for a '69 2000? I currently have a 10" L x 6.5" W x 8" H battery in my roadster. I could do with a little less height (I can barely get it clamped down). What size are we supposed to be running? Is there a group number? -- Dave Riedel '69 2000 Victoria, BC From davesmbox at aol.com Mon Aug 8 15:17:23 2011 From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 17:17:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] What's the battery group (size) for a '69 2000? In-Reply-To: <001b01cc55fd$47931490$d6b93db0$@net> References: <001b01cc55fd$47931490$d6b93db0$@net> Message-ID: <8CE2427B3030678-20B4-402F1@webmail-m134.sysops.aol.com> Sure it is SEARS Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Krakauer <jsk977 at optonline.net> To: 'D Riedel' <stamuki at gmail.com>; datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Sent: Mon, Aug 8, 2011 3:27 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What's the battery group (size) for a '69 2000? The original, at least for 67.5, was group 24C, don't think it's available anymore. Jerry Krakauer SRL311 00099 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of D Riedel Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 12:32 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] What's the battery group (size) for a '69 2000? I currently have a 10" L x 6.5" W x 8" H battery in my roadster. I could do with a little less height (I can barely get it clamped down). What size are we supposed to be running? Is there a group number? -- Dave Riedel '69 2000 Victoria, BC ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/davesmbox at aol.com From djp4 at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 9 16:28:42 2011 From: djp4 at sbcglobal.net (David J. Peay) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 15:28:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Message-ID: <1312928922.45382.yint-ygo-j2me@web80704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Good news for you!. http://rotabrasil.com.br/com.page.php?xoyahooID=05n1 From 12061997 at comcast.net Tue Aug 9 17:41:28 2011 From: 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 23:41:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <1312928922.45382.yint-ygo-j2me@web80704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1462698234.333662.1312933288258.JavaMail.root@sz0008a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> contact these people and get them to stop sending me emails...thanks bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "David J. Peay" To: peays1 at sbcglobal.net, bsand2 at aol.com, "jws 217" , "chelsea arnold" , majordomo at autox.team.net, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net, indydatsun at sbcglobal.net, dpsand at sbcglobal.net, djp4 at sbcglobal.net Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 5:28:42 PM Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Good news for you!. http://rotabrasil.com.br/com.page.php?xoyahooID=05n1 ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/12061997 at comcast.net From tputland at charter.net Wed Aug 10 05:38:52 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 07:38:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 40DCOE webers Message-ID: <2597952f.66da1.131b37ce4f9.Webtop.49@charter.net> Hi all. Quick (stupid?) questions here: With 40DCOE webers on a 1600 is the original cam shaft going to do these carbs justice? Using an EI dizzy, will the timing need to be adjusted at all, or can I leave it where the spces are for an EI dizzy? Thanks More cluelss than even but still always learning Tim From tom at datsun2000.com Thu Aug 11 11:20:32 2011 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 10:20:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 69 2000 For Sale Message-ID: Jim Warwick in Connecticut has posted his 69 2000 for sale on the NOWROC web site. If you are interested take a look here: http://www.nowroc.org/ForSale/john_warwick/ Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org From pjmill at sonic.net Thu Aug 11 11:20:42 2011 From: pjmill at sonic.net (pjmill at sonic.net) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 10:20:42 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Good source for dash harness? Message-ID: <18f0beeaff3e47df186309bc8d616041.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net> Hi, Roadsterites! Anyone know good source for purchase or building a quality dashboard wiring harness for a '66 1600? Thanks! Paul From solex675 at hotmail.com Thu Aug 11 11:50:33 2011 From: solex675 at hotmail.com (Andrew Murphy) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 10:50:33 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Good source for dash harness? In-Reply-To: <18f0beeaff3e47df186309bc8d616041.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net> References: <18f0beeaff3e47df186309bc8d616041.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net> Message-ID: When I had a 67.5 2000 restored, I used this place in Australia to do the dash harness. It was a very nice job and they have harnesses for just about every kind of sports cars in our class. You should give them a try. www.vinwire.com.au > Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 10:20:42 -0700 > From: pjmill at sonic.net > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Good source for dash harness? > > Hi, Roadsterites! > > Anyone know good source for purchase or building a quality dashboard > wiring harness for a '66 1600? > > Thanks! From plhbauman at earthlink.net Fri Aug 12 12:38:19 2011 From: plhbauman at earthlink.net (Paul Bauman) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 11:38:19 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Car appraiser needed Message-ID: <4E45731B.2050701@earthlink.net> Does anyone know of a good appraiser in the southern California area that can look at a Corvette owned by my late brother-in-law? My sister wants to sell the car, but she would like an objective party to look it over and give her a price before going forward. Please contact me offline. Thanks in advance. Paul Bauman Westminster, CA 67 1600 From tputland at charter.net Thu Aug 11 13:10:19 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:10:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Car appraiser needed Message-ID: <46d8fbcf.7a5e9.131ba409325.Webtop.49@charter.net> It is only worth 100 quid. I'd just sell it to me and be done with it. HA! On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Paul Bauman wrote: > Does anyone know of a good appraiser in the southern California area > that can look at a Corvette owned by my late brother-in-law? My sister > wants to sell the car, but she would like an objective party to look > it over and give her a price before going forward. > > Please contact me offline. > > Thanks in advance. > > Paul Bauman > Westminster, CA > 67 1600 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From tputland at charter.net Fri Aug 12 08:18:24 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 10:18:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] rescue a Z Message-ID: <404326b1.82a6c.131be5bad91.Webtop.48@charter.net> Not mine..... http://madison.craigslist.org/cto/2534508879.html From tputland at charter.net Fri Aug 12 08:20:39 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 10:20:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Must be rusty.... Message-ID: <4570ab82.82af8.131be5dbea3.Webtop.48@charter.net> ...other wise why paint the bumpers? http://madison.craigslist.org/cto/2528840022.html From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Fri Aug 12 09:55:07 2011 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 08:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Must be rusty.... In-Reply-To: <4570ab82.82af8.131be5dbea3.Webtop.48@charter.net> Message-ID: <1313164507.48802.YahooMailClassic@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> A 43-year old car in the salt belt? Rusty? Naaah! ;^) Gary McCormick San Jose, CA '70 2000 SRL311-13291 --- On Fri, 8/12/11, Tim wrote: From: Tim Subject: [Roadsters] Must be rusty.... To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Friday, August 12, 2011, 7:20 AM ...other wise why paint the bumpers? http://madison.craigslist.org/cto/2528840022.html ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net From ljordan704 at netscape.net Fri Aug 12 10:02:07 2011 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 09:02:07 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Must be rusty.... In-Reply-To: <4570ab82.82af8.131be5dbea3.Webtop.48@charter.net> References: <4570ab82.82af8.131be5dbea3.Webtop.48@charter.net> Message-ID: <36546523-7D40-4DEE-8A14-38D9E7956C32@netscape.net> Too expensive to rechrome so just sand and paint. An alternative if done well. Linda Sent from my iPod On Aug 12, 2011, at 7:20 AM, Tim wrote: > ...other wise why paint the bumpers? > > http://madison.craigslist.org/cto/2528840022.html > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From 9laser3 at bright.net Fri Aug 12 10:17:50 2011 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (9laser3 at bright.net) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 12:17:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Must be rusty.... In-Reply-To: <36546523-7D40-4DEE-8A14-38D9E7956C32@netscape.net> References: <4570ab82.82af8.131be5dbea3.Webtop.48@charter.net> <36546523-7D40-4DEE-8A14-38D9E7956C32@netscape.net> Message-ID: <201108121617.060263@ms2.cniteam.com> I "rechromed" both my bumpers for under $10! Two coats of rattle can chrome did the trick, Paul Ohio From msedlack at neo.rr.com Fri Aug 12 10:27:50 2011 From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 12:27:50 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Must be rusty.... References: <4570ab82.82af8.131be5dbea3.Webtop.48@charter.net><36546523-7D40-4DEE-8A14-38D9E7956C32@netscape.net> <201108121617.060263@ms2.cniteam.com> Message-ID: <889291D1452F4F2A9062F2B97AE0EB4E@p53ghzduo> Bumpers, what bumpers? http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/yipes_stripes.htm Mark Sedlack Clinton, OH 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <9laser3 at bright.net> To: ; "Tim" Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Must be rusty.... > I "rechromed" both my bumpers for under $10! Two coats of rattle can > chrome did the trick, > Paul > Ohio > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/msedlack at neo.rr.com From rksmith46 at hotmail.com Sat Aug 13 19:27:10 2011 From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 21:27:10 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Must be rusty.... In-Reply-To: <889291D1452F4F2A9062F2B97AE0EB4E@p53ghzduo> References: <4570ab82.82af8.131be5dbea3.Webtop.48@charter.net><36546523-7D40-4DEE-8A14-38D9E7956C32@netscape.net>, <201108121617.060263@ms2.cniteam.com>, <889291D1452F4F2A9062F2B97AE0EB4E@p53ghzduo> Message-ID: hi all, we dont need no stinking bumpers.(a joke) bob smith, ohio > From: msedlack at neo.rr.com > To: 9laser3 at bright.net; ljordan704 at netscape.net; tputland at charter.net > Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 12:27:50 -0400 > CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Must be rusty.... > > Bumpers, what bumpers? > http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/yipes_stripes.htm > Mark Sedlack > Clinton, OH > 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ > 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <9laser3 at bright.net> > To: ; "Tim" > Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 12:17 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Must be rusty.... > > > > I "rechromed" both my bumpers for under $10! Two coats of rattle can > > chrome did the trick, > > Paul > > Ohio > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/msedlack at neo.rr.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rksmith46 at hotmail.com From djp4 at sbcglobal.net Sun Aug 14 09:47:23 2011 From: djp4 at sbcglobal.net (David J. Peay) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 08:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Message-ID: <1313336843.96950.yint-ygo-j2me@web80706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Do you know how to improve sexual life of women?. http://nbfconstrutora.com.br/com.page.php?yCID=60k1 From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Sun Aug 14 12:37:59 2011 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 14:37:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Must be rusty.... Message-ID: Does one honestly think our scrawny bumpers stand a chance against the behemoths of today?? Gary Lasater - Colorado In a message dated 8/13/2011 7:28:20 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, rksmith46 at hotmail.com writes: hi all, we dont need no stinking bumpers.(a joke) bob smith, ohio > From: msedlack at neo.rr.com > To: 9laser3 at bright.net; ljordan704 at netscape.net; tputland at charter.net > Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 12:27:50 -0400 > CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Must be rusty.... > > Bumpers, what bumpers? > http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/yipes_stripes.htm > Mark Sedlack > Clinton, OH > 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ > 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <9laser3 at bright.net> > To: ; "Tim" > Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 12:17 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Must be rusty.... > > > > I "rechromed" both my bumpers for under $10! Two coats of rattle can > > chrome did the trick, > > Paul > > Ohio > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/msedlack at neo.rr.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rksmith46 at hotmail.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/barterdude at aol.com From RobertAuclair1 at aol.com Sun Aug 14 13:06:42 2011 From: RobertAuclair1 at aol.com (RobertAuclair1 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 15:06:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] WTB: Rear bumper Message-ID: <612e.3dedb0fd.3b7976c2@aol.com> I am looking for a somewhat straight rear bumper. I plan to paint it black to match the rest of trim so finish condition is not an issue. I would need shipping to 32714. Thank you, Robert From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Sun Aug 14 13:27:54 2011 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (cour.jpeg at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 19:27:54 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Must be rusty.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1572760382-1313350074-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-829430996-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> I always called them a "decorative chrome strip." Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 14:37:59 To: ; ; <9laser3 at bright.net>; ; Cc: Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Must be rusty.... Does one honestly think our scrawny bumpers stand a chance against the behemoths of today?? Gary Lasater - Colorado In a message dated 8/13/2011 7:28:20 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, rksmith46 at hotmail.com writes: hi all, we dont need no stinking bumpers.(a joke) bob smith, ohio > From: msedlack at neo.rr.com > To: 9laser3 at bright.net; ljordan704 at netscape.net; tputland at charter.net > Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 12:27:50 -0400 > CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Must be rusty.... > > Bumpers, what bumpers? > http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/yipes_stripes.htm > Mark Sedlack > Clinton, OH > 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ > 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <9laser3 at bright.net> > To: ; "Tim" > Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 12:17 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Must be rusty.... > > > > I "rechromed" both my bumpers for under $10! Two coats of rattle can > > chrome did the trick, > > Paul > > Ohio > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/msedlack at neo.rr.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rksmith46 at hotmail.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/barterdude at aol.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sun Aug 14 14:23:31 2011 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 13:23:31 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Must be rusty.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No more than the rest of the car LOL Linda Sent from my iPod On Aug 14, 2011, at 11:37 AM, BARTERDUDE at aol.com wrote: > Does one honestly think our scrawny bumpers stand a chance against the behemoths of today?? > > Gary Lasater - Colorado > > In a message dated 8/13/2011 7:28:20 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, rksmith46 at hotmail.com writes: > hi all, we dont need no stinking bumpers.(a joke) > bob smith, ohio > > > > From: msedlack at neo.rr.com > > To: 9laser3 at bright.net; ljordan704 at netscape.net; tputland at charter.net > > Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 12:27:50 -0400 > > CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Must be rusty.... > > > > Bumpers, what bumpers? > > http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/yipes_stripes.htm > > Mark Sedlack > > Clinton, OH > > 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ > > 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <9laser3 at bright.net> > > To: ; "Tim" > > Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > > Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 12:17 PM > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Must be rusty.... > > > > > > > I "rechromed" both my bumpers for under $10! Two coats of rattle can > > > chrome did the trick, > > > Paul > > > Ohio > > > ________________________________________ > > > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe: > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/msedlack at neo.rr.com > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rksmith46 at hotmail.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/barterdude at aol.com From sumton at sbcglobal.net Sun Aug 14 20:38:32 2011 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 21:38:32 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] reverse switch Message-ID: <1CEB85AEA14E4E01B9BC7F5D044DBA1C@ranteer.local> hi, all. I obtained a reverse switch, probably off ebay, but the threads are different. I have an early 67, and the switch I have (that fits into the tranny) is a little smaller in diameter. I'm going to guess mine is sae; the one I got is metric. anyone want to trade or make me an offer on the one I have? it is tested and working. and am I right - the pre 67.5 cars have a different reverse switch than the post 67.5? or is it a 1600 vs 2000 issue? thanks! From chalsted at comcast.net Mon Aug 15 13:47:34 2011 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 19:47:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] need updated e-mail addresses and home addresses for folks planning to go to the Glen Message-ID: <245666351.87832.1313437654709.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Elaine has e-mailed all the e-mail addresses we have of past attendees, got a bunch back as non-deliverable. please send me your updated info if you plan to attend and I'll make sure it gets added to Elaine's list Thanks, Craig From dscrib2 at hotmail.com Mon Aug 15 17:39:27 2011 From: dscrib2 at hotmail.com (Dana Scribner) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 19:39:27 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Charging problem Message-ID: I have a changing problem and I wounder if someone can help me with it. I did the GM alternator swap about a month ago. Everything has been working fine. I could turn on my light, wiper, fan, radio all at the same time and everything was nice & bright. Tiday when I turned on the light I ran negitive amps. The alternator was putting out about 10 volts. All connection were clean & good. A direct ground to the battery didn't make any difference. I put a meter on the excitor wire and that showed it waqs working. All fuses are good. I took the alternato9r out and had it checked and that was good. Ground on the alternator goes directly to the battery, The other connection does to the white wire through a 30 amp fuse, which is good and the #2 wire goes to the black & white wire from the old voltage regulator. I don't know what to check next or what to look for. Anyone have any good ideas? Dana S1969 2000 From james-culp at charter.net Tue Aug 16 08:39:41 2011 From: james-culp at charter.net (James Culp) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:39:41 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Charging problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <097ED553-2489-4154-AFFE-494A79104F03@charter.net> If all of your connections are clean(wire brush them shiny) then I'd suggest you check your battery. Swap it out with another 12V car battery. Your bat could have a shorted cell. Sent from VZ iPhone On Aug 15, 2011, at 7:39 PM, Dana Scribner wrote: > I have a changing problem and I wounder if someone can help me with it. I did > the GM alternator swap about a month ago. Everything has been working fine. I > could turn on my light, wiper, fan, radio all at the same time and everything > was nice & bright. Tiday when I turned on the light I ran negitive amps. The > alternator was putting out about 10 volts. All connection were clean & good. A > direct ground to the battery didn't make any difference. I put a meter on the > excitor wire and that showed it waqs working. All fuses are good. I took the > alternato9r out and had it checked and that was good. Ground on the alternator > goes directly to the battery, The other connection does to the white wire > through a 30 amp fuse, which is good and the #2 wire goes to the black & white > wire from the old voltage regulator. I don't know what to check next or what > to look for. Anyone have any good ideas? Dana S1969 2000 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/james-culp at charter.net From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Tue Aug 16 11:44:22 2011 From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:44:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Charging problem In-Reply-To: <097ED553-2489-4154-AFFE-494A79104F03@charter.net> References: <097ED553-2489-4154-AFFE-494A79104F03@charter.net> Message-ID: <1313516662.56718.YahooMailNeo@web121404.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Don't forget electricity needs two paths, positive and negative. It can be either one. Jim From: James Culp To: Dana Scribner Cc: datsun roadsters Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Charging problem If all of your connections are clean(wire brush them shiny) then I'd suggest you check your battery. Swap it out with another 12V car battery. Your bat could have a shorted cell. Sent from VZ iPhone On Aug 15, 2011, at 7:39 PM, Dana Scribner wrote: > I have a changing problem and I wounder if someone can help me with it. I did > the GM alternator swap about a month ago. Everything has been working fine. I > could turn on my light, wiper, fan, radio all at the same time and everything > was nice & bright. Tiday when I turned on the light I ran negitive amps. The > alternator was putting out about 10 volts. All connection were clean & good. A > direct ground to the battery didn't make any difference. I put a meter on the > excitor wire and that showed it waqs working. All fuses are good. I took the > alternato9r out and had it checked and that was good. Ground on the alternator > goes directly to the battery, The other connection does to the white wire > through a 30 amp fuse, which is good and the #2 wire goes to the black & white > wire from the old voltage regulator. I don't know what to check next or what > to look for. Anyone have any good ideas? Dana S1969 2000 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/james-culp at charter.net ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com From lperrochet at horvitzlevy.com Tue Aug 16 12:44:24 2011 From: lperrochet at horvitzlevy.com (Lisa Perrochet) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 11:44:24 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters - Dana's question re charging problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <019B0AF6FDFB5348A33CB640AC0D462196C91F0B06@FS-MAIL.hal.local> As a new member to the list (owner of a '66 1600 since 1978), I just want to say hi, and to note in response to Dana's question that this could be a blown diode. Put an analog meter on the alternator and if the needle jumps around that could verify the diagnosis. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 11:00 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 86 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 19:39:27 -0400 From: Dana Scribner To: datsun roadsters Subject: [Roadsters] Charging problem Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have a charging problem and I wounder if someone can help me with it. I did the GM alternator swap about a month ago. Everything has been working fine. I could turn on my light, wiper, fan, radio all at the same time and everything was nice & bright. Tiday when I turned on the light I ran negitive amps. The alternator was putting out about 10 volts. All connection were clean & good. A direct ground to the battery didn't make any difference. I put a meter on the excitor wire and that showed it waqs working. All fuses are good. I took the alternator out and had it checked and that was good. Ground on the alternator goes directly to the battery, The other connection does to the white wire through a 30 amp fuse, which is good and the #2 wire goes to the black & white wire from the old voltage regulator. I don't know what to check next or what to look for. Anyone have any good ideas? Dana S1969 2000 ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:39:41 -0400 From: James Culp To: Dana Scribner Cc: datsun roadsters Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Charging problem Message-ID: <097ED553-2489-4154-AFFE-494A79104F03 at charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If all of your connections are clean(wire brush them shiny) then I'd suggest you check your battery. Swap it out with another 12V car battery. Your bat could have a shorted cell. Sent from VZ iPhone ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:44:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Charging problem Message-ID: <1313516662.56718.YahooMailNeo at web121404.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Don't forget electricity needs two paths, positive and negative. It can be either one. Jim From slowboy at cox.net Tue Aug 16 14:20:09 2011 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 13:20:09 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Frame Pads Message-ID: <001801cc5c51$e53d54d0$afb7fe70$@cox.net> I am working on my notes using the Parts microfiche for references. Has anyone found in the parts annual where they mention the pads (horsehair) between the body and chassis? I am not seeing it. I know where they go as I put them there on the car, I just need to find it in the fiche. Tanks and thanks. From ken__pearce at hotmail.com Tue Aug 16 14:35:29 2011 From: ken__pearce at hotmail.com (The Ken Pearce) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 13:35:29 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Installing U20 motor... Message-ID: I'm getting close to putting my U20 motor back in my 68 2000. It's been so long I can't remember if I can mount the starter, exhaust manifold, carbs & intake manifold and oil pan while the engine is out or if I have to wait and do some of those after the motor is back in the engine bay. I seem to recall positioning the exhaust manifold (unbolted) as the engine goes back in, otherwise you can't get it into position after the engine is sitting on its mounts. I'll be installing the engine and tranny already bolted together as one unit... What say the experts? (Oil pan? Intake? Exhaust? Starter?) Thanks! Hope to be back on the road by the end of this week after being in the shop for 5 years. Ken Bellingham, WA From svedise at hotmail.com Tue Aug 16 14:54:08 2011 From: svedise at hotmail.com (Jim Svedise) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 13:54:08 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Installing U20 motor... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Install it all at once. Jim -----Original Message----- From: The Ken Pearce Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:35 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Installing U20 motor... I'm getting close to putting my U20 motor back in my 68 2000. It's been so long I can't remember if I can mount the starter, exhaust manifold, carbs & intake manifold and oil pan while the engine is out or if I have to wait and do some of those after the motor is back in the engine bay. I seem to recall positioning the exhaust manifold (unbolted) as the engine goes back in, otherwise you can't get it into position after the engine is sitting on its mounts. I'll be installing the engine and tranny already bolted together as one unit... What say the experts? (Oil pan? Intake? Exhaust? Starter?) Thanks! Hope to be back on the road by the end of this week after being in the shop for 5 years. Ken Bellingham, WA From keithddowning at yahoo.com Tue Aug 16 15:23:55 2011 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 14:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Installing U20 motor... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1313529835.8751.YahooMailRC@web83303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> All at once. Here's some pics of my '68 U20 going in. http://fototime.com/154E75B05DBC245/orig.jpg http://fototime.com/05F55C9E8399CD1/orig.jpg http://fototime.com/54C71C57024E75B/orig.jpg http://fototime.com/D2A85B0D3018DCB/orig.jpg Take your time. Best of luck. Keith ________________________________ From: The Ken Pearce To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, August 16, 2011 1:35:29 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Installing U20 motor... I'm getting close to putting my U20 motor back in my 68 2000. It's been so long I can't remember if I can mount the starter, exhaust manifold, carbs & intake manifold and oil pan while the engine is out or if I have to wait and do some of those after the motor is back in the engine bay. I seem to recall positioning the exhaust manifold (unbolted) as the engine goes back in, otherwise you can't get it into position after the engine is sitting on its mounts. I'll be installing the engine and tranny already bolted together as one unit... What say the experts? (Oil pan? Intake? Exhaust? Starter?) Thanks! Hope to be back on the road by the end of this week after being in the shop for 5 years. Ken Bellingham, WA ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.co m From sumton at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 16 17:29:40 2011 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 18:29:40 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Installing U20 motor... In-Reply-To: <1313529835.8751.YahooMailRC@web83303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1313529835.8751.YahooMailRC@web83303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7B8AE45311564BF4B94573E3DBEE6682@ranteer.local> just a comment here - if you use tie down straps instead of chains they are easier to place, adjust, and don't scratch anything. plus easier to store for later reuse and be sure to get sufficient strength ones. and think safety. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith Downing" Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 4:23 PM To: "The Ken Pearce" ; Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Installing U20 motor... > All at once. Here's some pics of my '68 U20 going in. > http://fototime.com/154E75B05DBC245/orig.jpg > http://fototime.com/05F55C9E8399CD1/orig.jpg > http://fototime.com/54C71C57024E75B/orig.jpg > http://fototime.com/D2A85B0D3018DCB/orig.jpg From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Tue Aug 16 19:33:05 2011 From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 18:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Installing U20 motor... In-Reply-To: <1313529835.8751.YahooMailRC@web83303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1313529835.8751.YahooMailRC@web83303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1313544785.64639.YahooMailNeo@web121413.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> It is a tight fit. Take your time. Jim ________________________________ From: Keith Downing To: The Ken Pearce ; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Installing U20 motor... All at once. Here's some pics of my '68 U20 going in. http://fototime.com/154E75B05DBC245/orig.jpg http://fototime.com/05F55C9E8399CD1/orig.jpg http://fototime.com/54C71C57024E75B/orig.jpg http://fototime.com/D2A85B0D3018DCB/orig.jpg Take your time. Best of luck. Keith ________________________________ From: The Ken Pearce To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, August 16, 2011 1:35:29 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Installing U20 motor... I'm getting close to putting my U20 motor back in my 68 2000. It's been so long I can't remember if I can mount the starter, exhaust manifold, carbs & intake manifold and oil pan while the engine is out or if I have to wait and do some of those after the motor is back in the engine bay. I seem to recall positioning the exhaust manifold (unbolted) as the engine goes back in, otherwise you can't get it into position after the engine is sitting on its mounts. I'll be installing the engine and tranny already bolted together as one unit... What say the experts? (Oil pan? Intake? Exhaust? Starter?) Thanks! Hope to be back on the road by the end of this week after being in the shop for 5 years. Ken Bellingham, WA ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.co m ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com From aultgc at att.net Tue Aug 16 20:33:56 2011 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 21:33:56 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Frame Pads References: <001801cc5c51$e53d54d0$afb7fe70$@cox.net> Message-ID: <95BA3D844CF0498FA8A5A5E4E590AE8D@gaxp1> When I went through my '66 in 1993, it was not frame-off. But, we unbolted the body from the frame, and lifted it a couple of inches to make sure we protected the contact points where the horsehair (?) pads were. I repleaced the original pads with 65 durometer neoprene, which does not absorb water. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "SlowBoy" To: "Datsun Roadsters" Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:20 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Frame Pads >I am working on my notes using the Parts microfiche for references. Has > anyone found in the parts annual where they mention the pads (horsehair) > between the body and chassis? I am not seeing it. I know where they go as > I > put them there on the car, I just need to find it in the fiche. > > > > Tanks and thanks. > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From aultgc at att.net Tue Aug 16 20:36:55 2011 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 21:36:55 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Installing U20 motor... References: Message-ID: <3B5A983263A844819689B3793EBDF4E4@gaxp1> Ken, All of the above, I think. I can't remember whether I had the starter on the car when I put the engine back into my '67-1/2 2000 a couple of years ago, but I'm pretty sure I did. The carbs, exhaust manifold and oil pan were all definitely in place. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Ken Pearce" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Installing U20 motor... > I'm getting close to putting my U20 motor back in my 68 2000. It's been > so > long I can't remember if I can mount the starter, exhaust manifold, carbs > & > intake manifold and oil pan while the engine is out or if I have to wait > and > do some of those after the motor is back in the engine bay. I seem to > recall > positioning the exhaust manifold (unbolted) as the engine goes back in, > otherwise you can't get it into position after the engine is sitting on > its > mounts. > > I'll be installing the engine and tranny already bolted together as one > unit... > > What say the experts? (Oil pan? Intake? Exhaust? Starter?) > > Thanks! Hope to be back on the road by the end of this week after being > in > the shop for 5 years. > > Ken > Bellingham, WA > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From noji-1 at pacbell.net Wed Aug 17 13:01:49 2011 From: noji-1 at pacbell.net (dana nojima) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 12:01:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] installing u20 Message-ID: <1313607709.99508.YahooMailRC@web83403.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Ken, Have it all together. It is very painful to try to get the other bit on after the engine is in. I think that the bolts on the starter can get about a 32nd of turn due to all the engine/frame restrictions. I thought that someone had a nice write up of the steps getting the engine in/out. Dana Dana Nojima noji-1 at pacbell.net Message: 1 Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 21:36:55 -0500 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "The Ken Pearce" , Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Installing U20 motor... Ken, All of the above, I think. I can't remember whether I had the starter on the car when I put the engine back into my '67-1/2 2000 a couple of years ago, but I'm pretty sure I did. The carbs, exhaust manifold and oil pan were all definitely in place. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Ken Pearce" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Installing U20 motor... > I'm getting close to putting my U20 motor back in my 68 2000. It's been > so > long I can't remember if I can mount the starter, exhaust manifold, carbs > & > intake manifold and oil pan while the engine is out or if I have to wait > and > do some of those after the motor is back in the engine bay. I seem to > recall > positioning the exhaust manifold (unbolted) as the engine goes back in, > otherwise you can't get it into position after the engine is sitting on > its > mounts. > > I'll be installing the engine and tranny already bolted together as one > unit... > > What say the experts? (Oil pan? Intake? Exhaust? Starter?) > > Thanks! Hope to be back on the road by the end of this week after being > in > the shop for 5 years. > > Ken > Bellingham, WA From lettk at yahoo.com Wed Aug 17 14:30:29 2011 From: lettk at yahoo.com (Karl_lett) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Installing U20 motor... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1313613029.18068.YahooMailNeo@web111512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Ken, typically we bolt on the oil pan, starter, intake, exhaust and transmission outside the vehicle. There's just enough room to squeeze it all in - and it's a TON easier than tring to tighetn those components once installed. best of luck, karl From: "datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net" To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:00 AM Subject: Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 88 Send Datsun-roadsters mailing list submissions to datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at datsun-roadsters-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Datsun-roadsters digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Installing U20 motor... (Gary and Cindy Ault) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 21:36:55 -0500 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "The Ken Pearce" , Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Installing U20 motor... Message-ID: <3B5A983263A844819689B3793EBDF4E4 at gaxp1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Ken, All of the above, I think. I can't remember whether I had the starter on the car when I put the engine back into my '67-1/2 2000 a couple of years ago, but I'm pretty sure I did. The carbs, exhaust manifold and oil pan were all definitely in place. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Ken Pearce" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Installing U20 motor... > I'm getting close to putting my U20 motor back in my 68 2000. It's been > so > long I can't remember if I can mount the starter, exhaust manifold, carbs > & > intake manifold and oil pan while the engine is out or if I have to wait > and > do some of those after the motor is back in the engine bay. I seem to > recall > positioning the exhaust manifold (unbolted) as the engine goes back in, > otherwise you can't get it into position after the engine is sitting on > its > mounts. > > I'll be installing the engine and tranny already bolted together as one > unit... > > What say the experts? (Oil pan? Intake? Exhaust? Starter?) > > Thanks! Hope to be back on the road by the end of this week after being > in > the shop for 5 years. > > Ken > Bellingham, WA > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters mailing list Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters End of Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 88 *********************************************** From rksmith46 at hotmail.com Wed Aug 17 15:53:42 2011 From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 17:53:42 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Charging problem In-Reply-To: <097ED553-2489-4154-AFFE-494A79104F03@charter.net> References: , <097ED553-2489-4154-AFFE-494A79104F03@charter.net> Message-ID: hi dana, is your amp meter working? does it show discharge(movement)? if not, mabe your meter is bad. that would not allow the charge to go thru the meter to the batt. use a test light and see if there is 12v.(or 10v), on the white wire(bigger wire) to the alt., all the time. if the batt. is ok, you can run a #10 wire, temporarily from the big alt. post to the batt. that will cut out the amp meter circuit. best of luck, bob smith, ohio > From: james-culp at charter.net > Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:39:41 -0400 > To: dscrib2 at hotmail.com > CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Charging problem > > If all of your connections are clean(wire brush them shiny) then I'd suggest > you check your battery. Swap it out with another 12V car battery. Your bat > could have a shorted cell. > > Sent from VZ iPhone > > On Aug 15, 2011, at 7:39 PM, Dana Scribner wrote: > > > I have a changing problem and I wounder if someone can help me with it. I > did > > the GM alternator swap about a month ago. Everything has been working fine. > I > > could turn on my light, wiper, fan, radio all at the same time and > everything > > was nice & bright. Tiday when I turned on the light I ran negitive amps. > The > > alternator was putting out about 10 volts. All connection were clean & good. > A > > direct ground to the battery didn't make any difference. I put a meter on > the > > excitor wire and that showed it waqs working. All fuses are good. I took > the > > alternato9r out and had it checked and that was good. Ground on the > alternator > > goes directly to the battery, The other connection does to the white wire > > through a 30 amp fuse, which is good and the #2 wire goes to the black & > white > > wire from the old voltage regulator. I don't know what to check next or > what > > to look for. Anyone have any good ideas? Dana S1969 2000 > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/james-culp at charter.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rksmith46 at hotmail.com From rksmith46 at hotmail.com Wed Aug 17 16:06:29 2011 From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 18:06:29 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Installing U20 motor... In-Reply-To: <1313529835.8751.YahooMailRC@web83303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: , <1313529835.8751.YahooMailRC@web83303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: hi dana, those are good pics, keith sent. another tip for making the header clear a little easier : cut off or bend down a corner of the driver's side motor mt. pad.(the rear corner, as it allows the header to clear without jamming the rear of the head against the throttle linkage and firewall). best of luck, bob smith, srl311 > Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 14:23:55 -0700 > From: keithddowning at yahoo.com > To: ken__pearce at hotmail.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Installing U20 motor... > > All at once. Here's some pics of my '68 U20 going in. > http://fototime.com/154E75B05DBC245/orig.jpg > http://fototime.com/05F55C9E8399CD1/orig.jpg > http://fototime.com/54C71C57024E75B/orig.jpg > http://fototime.com/D2A85B0D3018DCB/orig.jpg > > Take your time. Best of luck. > Keith > > > > > ________________________________ > From: The Ken Pearce > > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Tue, > August 16, 2011 1:35:29 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Installing U20 motor... > > I'm > getting close to putting my U20 motor back in my 68 2000. It's been so > long I > can't remember if I can mount the starter, exhaust manifold, carbs & > intake > manifold and oil pan while the engine is out or if I have to wait and > do some > of those after the motor is back in the engine bay. I seem to recall > positioning the exhaust manifold (unbolted) as the engine goes back in, > otherwise you can't get it into position after the engine is sitting on its > mounts. > > I'll be installing the engine and tranny already bolted together as > one > unit... > > What say the experts? (Oil pan? Intake? Exhaust? Starter?) > Thanks! Hope to be back on the road by the end of this week after being in > the shop for 5 years. > > Ken > Bellingham, WA > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.co > m > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rksmith46 at hotmail.com From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com Wed Aug 17 16:31:01 2011 From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 18:31:01 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Installing U20 motor... In-Reply-To: References: , <1313529835.8751.YahooMailRC@web83303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001cc5d2d$583372e0$089a58a0$@rochester.rr.com> Very good advice from Keith. I just put a U20 in a 69 and I hit the throttle cable bracket with the head and bent it (the bracket)...I didn't notice until I drove it and the throttle stuck at 2500 rpms. I diddled around with the carb end of the throttle cable thinking there wasn't enough slack for an hour or two, 3 or 4 test drives with no joy until I decide to compare the set up to another car and then it was obvious I had bent the bracket. So, hard learned advice - get a mental picture of the bracket before you put the engine in and confirm that it is in the same shape after the engine is back in (unless you have another car to compare) because the damage is not that easy to detect...until the throttle sticks on the expressway at 2500 rpms. Joe -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of robert k. smith Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 6:06 PM To: roadster list Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Installing U20 motor... hi dana, those are good pics, keith sent. another tip for making the header clear a little easier : cut off or bend down a corner of the driver's side motor mt. pad.(the rear corner, as it allows the header to clear without jamming the rear of the head against the throttle linkage and firewall). best of luck, bob smith, srl311 > Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 14:23:55 -0700 > From: keithddowning at yahoo.com > To: ken__pearce at hotmail.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Installing U20 motor... > > All at once. Here's some pics of my '68 U20 going in. > http://fototime.com/154E75B05DBC245/orig.jpg > http://fototime.com/05F55C9E8399CD1/orig.jpg > http://fototime.com/54C71C57024E75B/orig.jpg > http://fototime.com/D2A85B0D3018DCB/orig.jpg > > Take your time. Best of luck. > Keith > > > > > ________________________________ > From: The Ken Pearce > > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Tue, > August 16, 2011 1:35:29 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Installing U20 motor... > > I'm > getting close to putting my U20 motor back in my 68 2000. It's been > so long I can't remember if I can mount the starter, exhaust manifold, > carbs & intake manifold and oil pan while the engine is out or if I > have to wait and do some of those after the motor is back in the > engine bay. I seem to recall positioning the exhaust manifold > (unbolted) as the engine goes back in, otherwise you can't get it into > position after the engine is sitting on its mounts. > > I'll be installing the engine and tranny already bolted together as > one unit... > > What say the experts? (Oil pan? Intake? Exhaust? Starter?) > Thanks! Hope to be back on the road by the end of this week after > being in the shop for 5 years. > > Ken > Bellingham, WA > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.c o > m > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rksmith46 at hotmail.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/jrusso07 at rochester.rr .com From tom at datsun2000.com Wed Aug 17 20:20:00 2011 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:20:00 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] installing u20 Message-ID: <09CCC1BE82EF455D975C8154DBF6B7D4@TAZ> Ken, the bolts on starter can be a bear, not to mention getting the starter out and back in again. I use about 3-4' of extensions and place the ratched ahead of the left front suspension to remove and install the bolts. It makes things much easier. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On 8/17/2011 12:01:49 PM, dana nojima (noji-1 at pacbell.net) wrote: > Ken, > > Have it all together. It is very painful to try to get the other bit > on after > the engine is in. > > > I think that the bolts on the starter can get > about a 32nd of turn due to all > the engine/frame restrictions. > > > I thought > that someone had a nice write up of the steps getting the engine > in/out. > Dana > > Dana Nojima > noji-1 at pacbell.net From gboone70 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 17 20:50:09 2011 From: gboone70 at yahoo.com (Gary Boone) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:50:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] installing u20 In-Reply-To: <09CCC1BE82EF455D975C8154DBF6B7D4@TAZ> References: <09CCC1BE82EF455D975C8154DBF6B7D4@TAZ> Message-ID: <1313635809.85415.YahooMailNeo@web36307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The next time I pull my engine, I'm going to install helicoils in the tranny bell housing for the starter bolts. On my last engine re-install, the threads in the aluminum bell housing stripped. For my temporary fix then, I installed slightly longer bolts. >________________________________ >From: Tom Hendricksen >To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; noji-1 at pacbell.net >Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 8:20 PM >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] installing u20 > >Ken, the bolts on starter can be a bear, not to mention getting the starter >out and back in again. I use about 3-4' of extensions and place the ratched >ahead of the left front suspension to remove and install the bolts. It >makes things much easier. > >Tom > >69 2000 - Mr. Hyde >http://www.datsun2000.com >http://www.nowroc.org > > > >On 8/17/2011 12:01:49 PM, dana nojima (noji-1 at pacbell.net) wrote: >> Ken, >> >> Have it all together. It is very painful to try to get the other bit >> on after >> the engine is in. >> >> >> I think that the bolts on the starter can get >> about a 32nd of turn due to all >> the engine/frame restrictions. >> >> >> I thought >> that someone had a nice write up of the steps getting the engine >> in/out. >> Dana >> >> Dana Nojima >> noji-1 at pacbell.net >________________________________________ From mark at dealermats.com Wed Aug 17 22:11:56 2011 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 00:11:56 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] installing u20 In-Reply-To: <1313635809.85415.YahooMailNeo@web36307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <09CCC1BE82EF455D975C8154DBF6B7D4@TAZ> <1313635809.85415.YahooMailNeo@web36307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0B3746A6-087A-4FA9-B36D-F2000BBC1DCD@dealermats.com> I just went through that. The transmission holes were stripped and I had to pull everything again. I drilled them out and used bolts with nuts to hold it. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2011, at 10:50 PM, Gary Boone wrote: > The next time I pull my engine, I'm going to install helicoils in the tranny > bell housing for the starter bolts. On my last engine re-install, the threads > in the aluminum bell housing stripped. For my temporary fix then, I installed > slightly longer bolts. > > > > >> ________________________________ >> From: > Tom Hendricksen >> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; > noji-1 at pacbell.net >> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 8:20 PM >> Subject: Re: > [Roadsters] installing u20 >> >> Ken, the bolts on starter can be a bear, not to > mention getting the starter >> out and back in again. I use about 3-4' of > extensions and place the ratched >> ahead of the left front suspension to remove > and install the bolts. It >> makes things much easier. >> >> Tom >> >> 69 2000 - Mr. > Hyde >> http://www.datsun2000.com >> http://www.nowroc.org >> >> >> >> On 8/17/2011 > 12:01:49 PM, dana nojima (noji-1 at pacbell.net) wrote: >>> Ken, >>> >>> Have it > all together. It is very painful to try to get the other bit >>> on after >>> > the engine is in. >>> >>> >>> I think that the bolts on the starter can get >>> about a 32nd of turn due to all >>> the engine/frame restrictions. >>> >>> >>> I thought >>> that someone had a nice write up of the steps getting the > engine >>> in/out. >>> Dana >>> >>> Dana Nojima >>> noji-1 at pacbell.net >> ________________________________________ > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/mark at dealermats.com From noji-1 at pacbell.net Wed Aug 17 23:29:47 2011 From: noji-1 at pacbell.net (dana nojima) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 22:29:47 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] More on engine install Message-ID: <050f01cc5d67$d82e0110$888a0330$@net> Ken, I've pulled the engine maybe 5 times with the different cars that I've had. One of the best things for doing this on your own is a leveler. This allows you to ease the engine in without having to get below to get the trans into the compartment and still above the frame. Dana Dana Nojima noji-1 at pacbell.net 510.219.6474 From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net Thu Aug 18 08:18:29 2011 From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 08:18:29 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [Roadsters] More on engine install Message-ID: <30691794.1313677109893.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Good word Dana, the leveler helps immensely. Good luck, Dewey -----Original Message----- >From: dana nojima >Sent: Aug 17, 2011 11:29 PM >To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Subject: [Roadsters] More on engine install > >Ken, > > > >I've pulled the engine maybe 5 times with the different cars that I've had. >One of the best things for doing this on your own is a leveler. > > > >This allows you to ease the engine in without having to get below to get the >trans into the compartment and still above the frame. > > > >Dana > > > >Dana Nojima > >noji-1 at pacbell.net > >510.219.6474 >________________________________________ > >datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/hahlbohmd at earthlink.net From davesmbox at aol.com Thu Aug 18 08:30:46 2011 From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:30:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] More on engine install In-Reply-To: <30691794.1313677109893.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <30691794.1313677109893.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <8CE2BCA8D2C346B-DE4-24694@webmail-m049.sysops.aol.com> Northern Tool part 14589-1201? $42.99??? Buy it it is worth every penny Dave -----Original Message----- From: Dewey Hahlbohm <hahlbohmd at earthlink.net> To: dana nojima <noji-1 at pacbell.net>; datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Sent: Thu, Aug 18, 2011 10:19 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] More on engine install Good word Dana, the leveler helps immensely. Good luck, Dewey -----Original Message----- >From: dana nojima <noji-1 at pacbell.net> >Sent: Aug 17, 2011 11:29 PM >To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Subject: [Roadsters] More on engine install > >Ken, > > > >I've pulled the engine maybe 5 times with the different cars that I've had. >One of the best things for doing this on your own is a leveler. > > > >This allows you to ease the engine in without having to get below to get the >trans into the compartment and still above the frame. > > > >Dana > > > >Dana Nojima > >noji-1 at pacbell.net > >510.219.6474 >________________________________________ > >datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/hahlbohmd at earthlink.net ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/davesmbox at aol.com From rtdengr at charter.net Thu Aug 18 09:16:06 2011 From: rtdengr at charter.net (Bob Dicke) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:16:06 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] More on engine install In-Reply-To: <8CE2BCA8D2C346B-DE4-24694@webmail-m049.sysops.aol.com> References: <30691794.1313677109893.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <8CE2BCA8D2C346B-DE4-24694@webmail-m049.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <007301cc5db9$c0606ee0$41214ca0$@charter.net> Agreed! You need to start with the transmission pointing slightly down in order to get under the firewall and get the motor past the front cross member. Then as you go back the transmission needs to come up to get over the transmission mount. The leveler works perfectly for that and you keep the motor / transmission assembly under perfect control in the process, greatly reducing the possibility of banging into and damaging something in the engine compartment. Bob -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of davesmbox at aol.com Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:31 AM To: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net; noji-1 at pacbell.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] More on engine install Northern Tool part 14589-1201? $42.99??? Buy it it is worth every penny Dave From keithddowning at yahoo.com Thu Aug 18 09:52:08 2011 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 08:52:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] More on engine install In-Reply-To: <007301cc5db9$c0606ee0$41214ca0$@charter.net> References: <30691794.1313677109893.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <8CE2BCA8D2C346B-DE4-24694@webmail-m049.sysops.aol.com> <007301cc5db9$c0606ee0$41214ca0$@charter.net> Message-ID: <1313682728.70109.YahooMailRC@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Yes, a leveler is essential in my experience. I also use a floor jack under the transmission to get the back of it on top of the mounting crossmember. I think the key is to take it slowly and make sure all the tight points are OK along the way. A bit of muscling the around it the bay is helpful, but it's suspended by the hoist, so it's not too difficult. I pulled & reinstalled my engine/trans twice last year by myself, and it certainly gets easier with practice. Keith ________________________________ From: Bob Dicke To: davesmbox at aol.com; hahlbohmd at earthlink.net; noji-1 at pacbell.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, August 18, 2011 8:16:06 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] More on engine install Agreed! You need to start with the transmission pointing slightly down in order to get under the firewall and get the motor past the front cross member. Then as you go back the transmission needs to come up to get over the transmission mount. The leveler works perfectly for that and you keep the motor / transmission assembly under perfect control in the process, greatly reducing the possibility of banging into and damaging something in the engine compartment. Bob -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of davesmbox at aol.com Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:31 AM To: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net; noji-1 at pacbell.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] More on engine install Northern Tool part 14589-1201? $42.99??? Buy it it is worth every penny Dave ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.co m From slowboy at cox.net Thu Aug 18 11:07:19 2011 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:07:19 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Tank Message-ID: <000301cc5dc9$4a0c6e00$de254a00$@cox.net> I no longer have a 70 to check just the parts. On the 1970 fuel tank you have the fuel out and return line positions. The one close to the passenger tire is what? The one close to the driver tire is what? I can see what the pictures say but I need an answer from someone that has actually physically checked the fuel feed and return on the tank. Why? When the 70 tank is in a 67 the feed line from the 67 in on the driver side port and the return lines up with the port on the passenger side. This does not agree with the parts layout picture since the return line I added to the 67 only reached to the port on the passenger side. Go figure. From geegc at aol.com Thu Aug 18 12:46:23 2011 From: geegc at aol.com (geegc at aol.com) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 18:46:23 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] More on engine install In-Reply-To: <1313682728.70109.YahooMailRC@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <30691794.1313677109893.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net><8CE2BCA8D2C346B-DE4-24694@webmail-m049.sysops.aol.com><007301cc5db9$c0606ee0$41214ca0$@charter.net><1313682728.70109.YahooMailRC@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1361568457-1313693177-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-418835842-@b1.c2.bise6.blackberry> If anyone in Los Angeles wants to buy an engine hoist (a real industrial strength one) I want to get rid of mine. Too old to pull any more engines. $100 Gary Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: Keith Downing Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 08:52:08 To: Bob Dicke; ; ; ; Subject: Re: [Roadsters] More on engine install Yes, a leveler is essential in my experience. I also use a floor jack under the transmission to get the back of it on top of the mounting crossmember. I think the key is to take it slowly and make sure all the tight points are OK along the way. A bit of muscling the around it the bay is helpful, but it's suspended by the hoist, so it's not too difficult. I pulled & reinstalled my engine/trans twice last year by myself, and it certainly gets easier with practice. Keith ________________________________ From: Bob Dicke To: davesmbox at aol.com; hahlbohmd at earthlink.net; noji-1 at pacbell.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, August 18, 2011 8:16:06 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] More on engine install Agreed! You need to start with the transmission pointing slightly down in order to get under the firewall and get the motor past the front cross member. Then as you go back the transmission needs to come up to get over the transmission mount. The leveler works perfectly for that and you keep the motor / transmission assembly under perfect control in the process, greatly reducing the possibility of banging into and damaging something in the engine compartment. Bob -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of davesmbox at aol.com Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:31 AM To: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net; noji-1 at pacbell.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] More on engine install Northern Tool part 14589-1201? $42.99??? Buy it it is worth every penny Dave ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.co m ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/geegc at aol.com From ken__pearce at hotmail.com Thu Aug 18 13:15:09 2011 From: ken__pearce at hotmail.com (The Ken Pearce) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 12:15:09 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] installing u20 In-Reply-To: <0B3746A6-087A-4FA9-B36D-F2000BBC1DCD@dealermats.com> References: <09CCC1BE82EF455D975C8154DBF6B7D4@TAZ>, <1313635809.85415.YahooMailNeo@web36307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <0B3746A6-087A-4FA9-B36D-F2000BBC1DCD@dealermats.com> Message-ID: Thanks for all the advice! I'll probably try to install it with everything already bolted on. I do have a leveler but forgot to mention that I'm doing it "old school" with an overhead beam and come-along and rolling the car forward as the engine goes in. (And doing it by myself) Came out that way and wasn't too much of an issue. On second thought, I'm going to rent a cherry picker for $25 and call a buddy or two. The beer and pizza will cost more than the cherry picker, but will be money well spent. Heli-coil saved my bacon on a stripped out cam tower stud in my head. Couldn't get the 13 lbs of torque on the nut without the stud spinning so Heli-coil to the rescue. Worked like a charm... Cheers! Ken Bellingham, WA > From: mark at dealermats.com > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 00:11:56 -0400 > To: gboone70 at yahoo.com > CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] installing u20 > > I just went through that. The transmission holes were stripped and I had to > pull everything again. I drilled them out and used bolts with nuts to hold it. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 17, 2011, at 10:50 PM, Gary Boone wrote: > > > The next time I pull my engine, I'm going to install helicoils in the > tranny > > bell housing for the starter bolts. On my last engine re-install, the > threads > > in the aluminum bell housing stripped. For my temporary fix then, I > installed > > slightly longer bolts. > > > > > > > > > >> ________________________________ > >> From: > > Tom Hendricksen > >> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; > > noji-1 at pacbell.net > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 8:20 PM > >> Subject: Re: > > [Roadsters] installing u20 > >> > >> Ken, the bolts on starter can be a bear, not to > > mention getting the starter > >> out and back in again. I use about 3-4' of > > extensions and place the ratched > >> ahead of the left front suspension to remove > > and install the bolts. It > >> makes things much easier. > >> > >> Tom > >> > >> 69 2000 - Mr. > > Hyde > >> http://www.datsun2000.com > >> http://www.nowroc.org > >> > >> > >> > >> On 8/17/2011 > > 12:01:49 PM, dana nojima (noji-1 at pacbell.net) wrote: > >>> Ken, > >>> > >>> Have it > > all together. It is very painful to try to get the other bit > >>> on after > >>> > > the engine is in. > >>> > >>> > >>> I think that the bolts on the starter can get > >>> about a 32nd of turn due to all > >>> the engine/frame restrictions. > >>> > >>> > >>> I thought > >>> that someone had a nice write up of the steps getting the > > engine > >>> in/out. > >>> Dana > >>> > >>> Dana Nojima > >>> noji-1 at pacbell.net > >> ________________________________________ > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/mark at dealermats.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ken__pearce at hotmail.co m From tputland at charter.net Thu Aug 18 16:32:34 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 18:32:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] stroker mechanic/builder?? Message-ID: <74bbed03.cc5d3.131df063ff2.Webtop.49@charter.net> I am slowly gathering the pieces necessary to stroke my 1600 correctly. I have what I assume are the "hard" ones: crank and webers with manifold. I can get a header and cam easily enough. I will consult the write ups when I am ready to get the rest of the parts I need. My question is about who to have do the build. I am sure there are builders on the coasts who can do this for me--and if I have to I will ship to them if I find no other options but would rather not for support reasons. But does anyone know of a mechanic who is familiar with (has done) this stroker build in my neck of the woods in the midwest? Or can any competent engine builder do this stroke? Thanks! Tim Belleville, WI From sandhoff at csus.edu Fri Aug 19 00:12:03 2011 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 23:12:03 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Tank In-Reply-To: <000301cc5dc9$4a0c6e00$de254a00$@cox.net> References: <000301cc5dc9$4a0c6e00$de254a00$@cox.net> Message-ID: > On the 1970 fuel tank you have the fuel out and return line positions. > The one close to the passenger tire is what? > The one close to the driver tire is what? I can't tell you by position, but I can tell you by size. If you notice, you'll find that the two pipes are different sizes. The FEED line (to the pump that fuel is sucked out of the tank by) is the SMALLER pipe. The RETURN line is the LARGER pipe. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From 9laser3 at bright.net Sat Aug 20 03:51:48 2011 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (9laser3 at bright.net) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 05:51:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net mailing list reminder Message-ID: <201108200951.060055@ms2.cniteam.com> Anybody else get one of these notices? Spam? Paul Ohio PS, Not my actual password! Or do I even have a password? 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From graemes at internode.on.net Sat Aug 20 03:57:27 2011 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 19:27:27 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net mailing list reminder In-Reply-To: <201108200951.060055@ms2.cniteam.com> References: <201108200951.060055@ms2.cniteam.com> Message-ID: <4E4F8507.3040307@internode.on.net> On 20/08/2011 7:21 PM, 9laser3 at bright.net wrote: > Anybody else get one of these notices? Spam? > > Paul > Ohio > > PS, Not my actual password! 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From escanlon at wa-net.com Sat Aug 20 11:05:47 2011 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 10:05:47 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net mailing listreminder References: <201108200951.060055@ms2.cniteam.com> Message-ID: Careful!!! You just gave away all the info necessary to impersonate you. You DEFINITELY need to change your password IMMEDIATELY. This is EXACTLY what that spam bomb was hoping to get... don't give in to it. E You are subscribed with the address: 9laser3 at bright.net Your Datsun-roadsters password is: {REMOVED} From wilrobasy at hotmail.com Sat Aug 20 20:08:07 2011 From: wilrobasy at hotmail.com (Wilrobasy) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 12:08:07 +1000 Subject: [Roadsters] More on engine install In-Reply-To: <050f01cc5d67$d82e0110$888a0330$@net> References: <050f01cc5d67$d82e0110$888a0330$@net> Message-ID: Cant agree with you more Dana I have just finished dropping in the rebuilt V12 into my jag on my own. Without a leveler to tilt the engine as required the job simply would not have happened. Got mine from eBay for about 35 AUD even at the current exchange rate of the US peso it would be money well spent. Sent from my iPhone On 18/08/2011, at 3:29 PM, "dana nojima" wrote: > Ken, > > > > I've pulled the engine maybe 5 times with the different cars that I've had. > One of the best things for doing this on your own is a leveler. > > > > This allows you to ease the engine in without having to get below to get the > trans into the compartment and still above the frame. > > > > Dana > > > > Dana Nojima > > noji-1 at pacbell.net > > 510.219.6474 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/wilrobasy at hotmail.com From ken__pearce at hotmail.com Sun Aug 21 02:17:44 2011 From: ken__pearce at hotmail.com (The Ken Pearce) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 01:17:44 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] More on engine install (and what weight tranny oil?) In-Reply-To: References: <050f01cc5d67$d82e0110$888a0330$@net>, Message-ID: I got the engine in tonight at midnight or so... Solo, with the help of a leveler and a rented cherry picker hoist. Best $25 I've spent recently. Things I learned: - leave the alternator off, it gives you easier access to the motor mount front bolt. (not a big deal...) - make sure you unbolt the motor mounts from the frame, as opposed to from the engine. for whatever reason, I had done one correctly and the driver's side incorrectly. So I tried gettting the mount to slip over the two bolts, wrong... bad answer... had to raise the engine up about 5 inches, unbolt the mount from the frame, bolt it to the engine, and then all was much easier. Mounts should look like \ / as you lower the engine back down and getting the engine in place is much easier. - estimate how much time it will take, then multiply by 4. :) I loved assembling everything on the engine stand. Much easier to do the manifolds and starter than when in the car... Tomorrow I hook everything back up and see if she'll start. What weight oil is recommended for the 5-speed transmission? 30W? 80W? Thanks! Ken Bellingham, WA 68-2000 > From: wilrobasy at hotmail.com > Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 12:08:07 +1000 > To: noji-1 at pacbell.net > CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] More on engine install > > Cant agree with you more Dana > > I have just finished dropping in the rebuilt V12 into my jag on my own. > Without a leveler to tilt the engine as required the job simply would not have > happened. Got mine from eBay for about 35 AUD even at the current exchange > rate of the US peso it would be money well spent. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 18/08/2011, at 3:29 PM, "dana nojima" wrote: > > > Ken, > > > > > > > > I've pulled the engine maybe 5 times with the different cars that I've > had. > > One of the best things for doing this on your own is a leveler. > > > > > > > > This allows you to ease the engine in without having to get below to get > the > > trans into the compartment and still above the frame. > > > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > Dana Nojima > > > > noji-1 at pacbell.net > > > > 510.219.6474 > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/wilrobasy at hotmail.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ken__pearce at hotmail.co m From dscrib2 at hotmail.com Sun Aug 21 04:56:13 2011 From: dscrib2 at hotmail.com (Dana Scribner) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 06:56:13 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Watkins Glen Message-ID: Watkins Glen is just a couple of weeks away. Datsun/Nissan is the marque this year. There are special evemts on Friday Sept 9th for Datsuns and the last time I knew there were still openings for the marque events. Go to www.grandprixfestival.com Friday after the race cars go through town DRONE will be having a cookout at the Golden Knight Inn. Please let me know if you plan to attend. Saturday there is the show & shine at the sate park and the gathering later in the day. Elaine will be sending info out on that. Dana S 1969 2000 From chalsted at comcast.net Sun Aug 21 06:49:30 2011 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 12:49:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] brake part interchangeability question Message-ID: <644969043.116832.1313930970462.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I have caliper kits, rear wheel cylinders, pads, shoes for my 69 2000 but have to change car's I'm trying to get ready to go to the Glen...can I use these on a 66 1600 or are the threads different? I don't remember where the change came in between standard and metric and when the size of the caliper pistons changed...guy who was supposed to be getting the body ready for paint on the 2000 came over a couple weeks ago and cut the LR quarter out and then never came back....gotta have a driver for the Glen! nothing like starting with a car that hasn't been run in around 15 years, needs paint, no interior, needs tires and wheels, brakes and chrome....2 weeks before we're supposed to be leaving for the event 8-) Thanks, Craig From geegc at aol.com Sun Aug 21 09:08:25 2011 From: geegc at aol.com (geegc at aol.com) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 15:08:25 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] brake part interchangeability question Message-ID: <1104459508-1313939304-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1672658302-@b1.c2.bise6.blackberry> I have a 66. It uses SAE as I remember from a problem I had in 1967 when I used a Chevy brake line to fix it ------Original Message------ From: chalsted at comcast.net Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] brake part interchangeability question Sent: Aug 21, 2011 5:49 AM I have caliper kits, rear wheel cylinders, pads, shoes for my 69 2000 but have to change car's I'm trying to get ready to go to the Glen...can I use these on a 66 1600 or are the threads different? I don't remember where the change came in between standard and metric and when the size of the caliper pistons changed...guy who was supposed to be getting the body ready for paint on the 2000 came over a couple weeks ago and cut the LR quarter out and then never came back....gotta have a driver for the Glen! nothing like starting with a car that hasn't been run in around 15 years, needs paint, no interior, needs tires and wheels, brakes and chrome....2 weeks before we're supposed to be leaving for the event 8-) Thanks, Craig ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/geegc at aol.com Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From shifty at shiftco.com Sun Aug 21 09:50:28 2011 From: shifty at shiftco.com (Leigh Brooks) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 08:50:28 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] brake part interchangeability question In-Reply-To: <644969043.116832.1313930970462.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <644969043.116832.1313930970462.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <61F00BE0-326A-4502-8B56-8201F950DEFB@shiftco.com> Rule of thumb for most roadster parts: If it will interchange across all years of production, 1965 - 1970 it is probably SAE. Running changes after 1967, (1967.5 and 68-70) the replacement part tends to be Metric. So the brakes are the same for all years, therefore SAE. Leigh Brooks On Aug 21, 2011, at 5:49 AM, chalsted at comcast.net wrote: > I have caliper kits, rear wheel cylinders, pads, shoes for my 69 2000 but have to change car's I'm trying to get ready to go to the Glen...can I use these on a 66 1600 or are the threads different? I don't remember where the change came in between standard and metric and when the size of the caliper pistons changed...guy who was supposed to be getting the body ready for paint on the 2000 came over a couple weeks ago and cut the LR quarter out and then never came back....gotta have a driver for the Glen! nothing like starting with a car that hasn't been run in around 15 years, needs paint, no interior, needs tires and wheels, brakes and chrome....2 weeks before we're supposed to be leaving for the event 8-) > Thanks, > Craig > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/shifty at shiftco.com From jklingman at stny.rr.com Sun Aug 21 10:58:42 2011 From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (jklingman at stny.rr.com) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 12:58:42 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110821165842.20J69.169842.root@hrndva-web28-z02> Hi all, Had a lovely road trip yesterday to the Glen. Stopped at VGP headquarters, picked up 2 posters printed on nice heavy paper, really nice. Carole said all spaces are full for all events except a couple in the Glenkana and LeMons. Mentioned there are a lot of new Zs entered. We recovered our roadster last August after being "gone" for 2 1/2 years, badly trashed from sitting out in the rain with no top or hood. Spike is back on the road, still has issues, but running good enough to get to the Glen. Gloria and John Klingman '68 2000 Spike ---- Dana Scribner wrote: > Watkins Glen is just a couple of weeks away. Datsun/Nissan is the marque this > year. There are events on Friday Sept 9th for Datsuns and the last > time I knew there were still openings for the marque events. Go to > www.grandprixfestival.com Friday after the race cars go through town DRONE > will be having a cookout at the Golden Knight Inn. Please let me know if you > plan to attend. Saturday there is the show & shine at the sate park and the > gathering later in the day. Elaine will be sending info out on that. Dana S > 1969 2000 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/jklingman at stny.rr.com From datrock at centurytel.net Sun Aug 21 12:41:01 2011 From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 11:41:01 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 2011 Shedd Fun Run/ BBQ Message-ID: <4E51513D.6050202@centurytel.net> Hi Everyone, the Shedd 2011 Roadster Fun Run/BBQ was a success. We had 21 roadster for the event. Some left before others arrived so not all were present at once, but the numbers added up. Enjoy the photos at my Webshots link and I hope to see you there in 2012.. Bill Cole http://good-times.webshots.com/album/580754527jXUPar From aultgc at att.net Sun Aug 21 14:51:33 2011 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 13:51:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] More on engine install (and what weight tranny oil?) In-Reply-To: References: <050f01cc5d67$d82e0110$888a0330$@net>, Message-ID: <1313959893.66521.YahooMailRC@web180211.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Ken, You're going to get a variety of opinions on what gear oil to use for the transmission. I believe the OEM recommendation was 90W gear oil, but I can't find such a recommendation in my service manual. On the advice of the shop which rebuilt my 5-speed, I now us 75W-110 Amsoil. Gary ________________________________ From: The Ken Pearce To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, August 21, 2011 3:17:44 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] More on engine install (and what weight tranny oil?) I got the engine in tonight at midnight or so... Solo, with the help of a leveler and a rented cherry picker hoist. Best $25 I've spent recently. Things I learned: - leave the alternator off, it gives you easier access to the motor mount front bolt. (not a big deal...) - make sure you unbolt the motor mounts from the frame, as opposed to from the engine. for whatever reason, I had done one correctly and the driver's side incorrectly. So I tried gettting the mount to slip over the two bolts, wrong... bad answer... had to raise the engine up about 5 inches, unbolt the mount from the frame, bolt it to the engine, and then all was much easier. Mounts should look like \ / as you lower the engine back down and getting the engine in place is much easier. - estimate how much time it will take, then multiply by 4. :) I loved assembling everything on the engine stand. Much easier to do the manifolds and starter than when in the car... Tomorrow I hook everything back up and see if she'll start. What weight oil is recommended for the 5-speed transmission? 30W? 80W? Thanks! Ken Bellingham, WA 68-2000 > From: wilrobasy at hotmail.com > Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 12:08:07 +1000 > To: noji-1 at pacbell.net > CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] More on engine install > > Cant agree with you more Dana > > I have just finished dropping in the rebuilt V12 into my jag on my own. > Without a leveler to tilt the engine as required the job simply would not have > happened. Got mine from eBay for about 35 AUD even at the current exchange > rate of the US peso it would be money well spent. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 18/08/2011, at 3:29 PM, "dana nojima" wrote: > > > Ken, > > > > > > > > I've pulled the engine maybe 5 times with the different cars that I've > had. > > One of the best things for doing this on your own is a leveler. > > > > > > > > This allows you to ease the engine in without having to get below to get > the > > trans into the compartment and still above the frame. > > > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > Dana Nojima > > > > noji-1 at pacbell.net > > > > 510.219.6474 > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/wilrobasy at hotmail.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ken__pearce at hotmail.co m ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From aultgc at att.net Sun Aug 21 15:08:10 2011 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 14:08:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] brake part interchangeability question In-Reply-To: <644969043.116832.1313930970462.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <644969043.116832.1313930970462.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1313960890.65075.YahooMailRC@web180202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Craig, Most brake parts are interchangeable across all years. The caliper pistons never changed. The early cars had 13/16-inch rear wheel cylinders, while the '67-1/2 and later had 3/4-inch cylinders. I have heard one can put 3/4-inch rear cylinders on earlier cars, but you won't get as much rear brake force. (I believe the threads in the 3/4-inch cylinders' bleeder screws and brake lines are SAE.) I would not do it, mostly because I don't know how significant the effect would be. Although dual-circuits, with a dual-piston master cylinder and brake propostioning valve, were introduced with the '67-1/2s, I think the brake pressure proportioning systems changed with later cars. The brake proportioning system will not be a factor for work at the wheels. Other than that, for the parts you are talking about replacing, everything is the same, including the fitting on the brake lines. Gary To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, August 21, 2011 7:49:30 AM Subject: [Roadsters] brake part interchangeability question I have caliper kits, rear wheel cylinders, pads, shoes for my 69 2000 but have to change car's I'm trying to get ready to go to the Glen...can I use these on a 66 1600 or are the threads different? I don't remember where the change came in between standard and metric and when the size of the caliper pistons changed...guy who was supposed to be getting the body ready for paint on the 2000 came over a couple weeks ago and cut the LR quarter out and then never came back....gotta have a driver for the Glen! nothing like starting with a car that hasn't been run in around 15 years, needs paint, no interior, needs tires and wheels, brakes and chrome....2 weeks before we're supposed to be leaving for the event 8-) Thanks, Craig ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From dscrib2 at hotmail.com Sun Aug 21 16:52:43 2011 From: dscrib2 at hotmail.com (Dana Scribner) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 18:52:43 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: FutoFab/VTO Vintage Racing Contingency In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: I am not indorsing this person or his product but I am passing the info along. Make your our decision. Dana S1969 2000 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Patten Date: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 10:21 AM Subject: FutoFab/VTO Vintage Racing Contingency To: Dave at futofab.com Gentlemen, I know this is short notice but I am contacting you regarding a $150 contingency for using the recently introduced VTO Retro 4 in 13x7 +0 offset or VTO LeMans in 15x6 (+3 & +24 offset) or 15x7 (+0 &+12 offset). If you know of others that could benefit, please pass on the word. Don't hesitate to post this to your favorite message board or furum ste if you feel others would be interested. Here are the details: Purchase 4 or more 13x7 Retro 4 or any size LeMans VTO wheels for your Datsun (4x114.3 pattern only) on-line from FutoFab before August 30th. Use these wheels at one of the following vintage events on September 9-11, 2001, VSCDA Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival or the SVRA US Vintage Grand Prix at Watkins Glen Display FutoFab's 3"x5" decals ,one on each side of the car at one of the specified events. Send FutoFab a copy of the event results showing on track participation. (finishing position not important, all you have to do is get out on the track) and send us a photo of your car showing FutoFab's decals and VTO wheels on it at the event, preferably on track if possible. Upon completion of the above requirements FutoFab will send you a check for $150. Simple as that. Pass on the word to others. I hope this is of help to my fellow Datsun Racers. -- Dave Patten, Owner FutoFab, LLC 199 Stark Hwy So Dunbarton, NH 03046 Website - www.FutoFab.com e-mail - dave at futofab.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] From geegc at aol.com Sun Aug 21 23:55:33 2011 From: geegc at aol.com (Geegc) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 01:55:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] OT Senna -- the movie Message-ID: <8CE2EA73950C436-19A0-177A9@webmail-d091.sysops.aol.com> About the F-1 driver Ayrton Senna. Just saw it, it is apparently only playing in LA and NY so far. Fantastic documentary, the race footage is great. Gary Cohen From roadstergb at aol.com Mon Aug 22 00:32:29 2011 From: roadstergb at aol.com (roadstergb at aol.com) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 06:32:29 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] OT Senna -- the movie Message-ID: <735056171-1313994749-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1685640675-@b1.c1.bise7.blackberry> Hi Gary I put together and managed all the social media for Senna in the UK (Facebook, Twitter, YouTube channel etc). I was lucky enough to go to a couple of previews and went to the premiere. The reaction was amazing. It's now become the highest grossing British doc in the UK. Great to see it getting rave reviews in the US as well. Cheers. Rob ------Original Message------ From: Geegc Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] OT Senna -- the movie Sent: 22 Aug 2011 06:55 About the F-1 driver Ayrton Senna. Just saw it, it is apparently only playing in LA and NY so far. Fantastic documentary, the race footage is great. Gary Cohen ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadstergb at aol.com ------------------ From ken__pearce at hotmail.com Mon Aug 22 00:41:09 2011 From: ken__pearce at hotmail.com (The Ken Pearce) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 23:41:09 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Starter click click click... Message-ID: Well, I finally got the engine together and back in the car. After turning it over by hand a few times on the stand to make sure everything felt and sounded correct I bolted everything on and put it back in the engine bay. Once I had oil in the engine and the battery hooked up, I turned it over a bit without sparkplugs and it was smooth, turning over easy, sounded great (meaning I didn't hear anything at all other than a smooth turning engine). So I continued to hook up the fuel system, spark plugs, cooling system, drive shaft, etc etc etc... And when I went to turn it over to try and start it, "CLICK CLICK CLICK..." sound of the solenoid and or starter trying to turn, but it would not turn the engine over. Easy, my battery was dead, it sat for 3 or 4 years without being charged, it's probably toast. I put the charger on it anyway for a while, still just the click click click... So before running off to buy a battery, I tried jumping it using my truck's battery. Still only click click click.... AHHHHHHHH!H!!!!!! Really? I get everything buttoned up after spending torturous amounts of time under the car and now the starter or solenoid needs replacing? Ouch! And we all know how much fun taking those on and off can be. :( So, does anyone know of any tricks / tips to get a stuck starter or solenoid going again? I tried the gentle and not so gentle tapping with a hammer while it was doing the click click click... Nothing. From graemes at internode.on.net Mon Aug 22 01:19:53 2011 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:49:53 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] Starter click click click... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E520319.4010700@internode.on.net> On 22/08/2011 4:11 PM, The Ken Pearce wrote: > Well, I finally got the engine together and back in the car. After turning it > over by hand a few times on the stand to make sure everything felt and sounded > correct I bolted everything on and put it back in the engine bay. Once I had > oil in the engine and the battery hooked up, I turned it over a bit without > sparkplugs and it was smooth, turning over easy, sounded great (meaning I > didn't hear anything at all other than a smooth turning engine). So I > continued to hook up the fuel system, spark plugs, cooling system, drive > shaft, etc etc etc... And when I went to turn it over to try and start it, > "CLICK CLICK CLICK..." sound of the solenoid and or starter trying to turn, > but it would not turn the engine over. Easy, my battery was dead, it sat for > 3 or 4 years without being charged, it's probably toast. I put the charger on > it anyway for a while, still just the click click click... So before running > off to buy a battery, I tried jumping it using my truck's battery. Still only > click click click.... AHHHHHHHH!H!!!!!! Really? I get everything buttoned > up after spending torturous amounts of time under the car and now the starter > or solenoid needs replacing? Ouch! And we all know how much fun taking > those on and off can be. :( > > So, does anyone know of any tricks / tips to get a stuck starter or solenoid > going again? I tried the gentle and not so gentle tapping with a hammer while > it was doing the click click click... Nothing. > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on.net > > Try shorting the starter directly to the HT cable at the solenoid. In other words, bypass the solenoid contacts. Use a big flat blade screwdriver. If the starter itself is OK it should crank. If it doesn't crank then the starter is weak. To double check, see if the starter will still crank the engine with the spark plugs out. -- Regards, Graeme Suckling 1965 SP310 Datsun Sports 1971 P510 Datsun 1600 1972 PL510 Datsun 1600 LHD 1973 HS30 Datsun 240Z 1984 B120 Datsun 1200 utility 1993 ECR33 Skyline GTS25t http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia. From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Mon Aug 22 03:34:43 2011 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (cour.jpeg at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 09:34:43 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Starter click click click... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1428084471-1314005682-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1019557576-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> Not always will jumper cables deliver enough to a bad battery that you can crank and fire over. After sitting 4 years, no charge, you're gonna want a new one anyway. Do that first. It's a lot easier. Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: The Ken Pearce Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 23:41:09 To: Subject: [Roadsters] Starter click click click... Well, I finally got the engine together and back in the car. After turning it over by hand a few times on the stand to make sure everything felt and sounded correct I bolted everything on and put it back in the engine bay. Once I had oil in the engine and the battery hooked up, I turned it over a bit without sparkplugs and it was smooth, turning over easy, sounded great (meaning I didn't hear anything at all other than a smooth turning engine). So I continued to hook up the fuel system, spark plugs, cooling system, drive shaft, etc etc etc... And when I went to turn it over to try and start it, "CLICK CLICK CLICK..." sound of the solenoid and or starter trying to turn, but it would not turn the engine over. Easy, my battery was dead, it sat for 3 or 4 years without being charged, it's probably toast. I put the charger on it anyway for a while, still just the click click click... So before running off to buy a battery, I tried jumping it using my truck's battery. Still only click click click.... AHHHHHHHH!H!!!!!! Really? I get everything buttoned up after spending torturous amounts of time under the car and now the starter or solenoid needs replacing? Ouch! And we all know how much fun taking those on and off can be. :( So, does anyone know of any tricks / tips to get a stuck starter or solenoid going again? I tried the gentle and not so gentle tapping with a hammer while it was doing the click click click... Nothing. ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com From ken__pearce at hotmail.com Mon Aug 22 11:19:48 2011 From: ken__pearce at hotmail.com (The Ken Pearce) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:19:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Starter click click click... (solved... battery cable...) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the replies! I bought a new battery and as I was removing the old one, I saw the culprit. The heavy black cable that connects the neg battery post to the transmission plate / housing had come off the gang of wires that attach to my neg terminal. Easy fix, duh!!! Moral of the story, after pulling several 8 and 10 hour sessions, go home, post to the Datsun group, get some sleep and the fix will probably be easier than originally feared. :) Starter is fine solenoid is fine, engine sounds nice as it turns over easily. My next post will hopefully be a YouTube link to a video of that sweet sound of a U20 coming back to life after a 5 year rest. Big thanks to Dean for the thicker head gasket and to Dann for the other various parts. Thanks to all the parts suppliers, we can keep these cars on the road! Ken Bellingham, WA 68-2000 From: tom at datsun2000.com To: ken__pearce at hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter click click click... Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 09:15:08 -0700 My first impression would be a bad connection between the battery connector and the cable running either from the Negative terminal to the engine block or body ground (block is better) or the Positive terminal and the cable running to the starter. Clicking usually indicates that something in the circuit path is not able to handle the current being asked for by the circuit load. Did you use new cables on these two connections to the battery when you put everything together? If not I would seriously consider purchasing a new set of manufactured battery cables. If the battery connections are repair connectors I would not hesitate to purchase new cables with the proper connectors already attached. Repair cables can easilly corrode, which reduces the integrity of the contact between the repair connector and the cable. I have rebuilt a starter solenoid, and it is not hard. But of course you have to remove the starter to do it, and as you said, that is a bear. Inside of the solenoid is a large copper disk. When you activate the solenoid the disk is slammed into a pair of large copper contacts. Over time the contacts leave some of their copper on the disk and reduce the contact surface available for transferring current to the starter motor from the battery. A file and a ltttle effort can restore the surfaces to near new again. If the starter is starting to turn I suspect the solenoid is doing its job. The chatter made by the solenoid is usually caused by the loss of voltage in the poor connection somewhere in the battery or battery cables when the starter asks for several hundred amps of current. Before I tried to rebuild the solenoid I would carefully check everything else first. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Las Vegas http://www.datsu2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On 8/21/2011 11:41:09 PM, The Ken Pearce (ken__pearce at hotmail.com) wrote: > Well, I finally got the engine together and back in the car. After > turning it > over by hand a few times on the stand to make sure everything felt and > sounded > correct I bolted everything on and put it back in the engine bay. Once I > had > oil in the engine and the battery hooked up, I turned it over a bit > without > sparkplugs and it was smooth, turning over easy, sounded great > (meaning I > didn't hear anything at all other than a smooth turning engine). So I > continued to hook up the fuel system, spark plugs, cooling system, drive > shaft, etc etc etc... And when I went to turn it over to try and start it, > "CLICK CLICK CLICK..." sound of the solenoid and or starter trying to turn, > but it would not turn the engine over. Easy, my battery was dead, it sat for > 3 or 4 years without being charged, it's > probably toast. I put the charger on > it anyway for a while, still just the click click click... So before > running > off to buy a battery, I tried jumping it using my truck's battery. Still only > click click click.... AHHHHHHHH!H!!!!!! Really? I get everything buttoned > up after spending torturous amounts of time under the car and now the starter From tom at datsun2000.com Mon Aug 22 11:58:20 2011 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:58:20 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT - But Allan will love this Message-ID: <9EDB29F452CF4AC8A32B12C5FD22FBD5@TAZ> http://vlm32.com/savedHTML_2/thecitythattimeforgot.html Roadster content: Ordering a complete set of grease fitting boots for Mr. Hyde. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Las Vegas http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org From ken__pearce at hotmail.com Mon Aug 22 12:39:16 2011 From: ken__pearce at hotmail.com (The Ken Pearce) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 11:39:16 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Distributor wire question? Message-ID: I have wire coming off the front of the distributor near the condenser that either connected to ground, or to the front side of the ballast resistor on the ignition coil. Been too long since I took it off to remember... Anyone know off hand where it connects? Also, the vacuum advance tube / hose that connects to the distributor, is it supposed to connect to one of the SU carbs or to the intake manifold? There's a little black cap on the fitting on the intake manifold which tells me it probably connected to one of the carbs. Thanks, Ken Bellingham, WA 68-2000 From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Aug 22 13:02:10 2011 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 19:02:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] FW: FutoFab/VTO Vintage Racing Contingency In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <843824772.494072.1314039730665.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> FWIW, Dave is a long-time Datsun racer (1200 & 510). I have never met him other than through email, but his reputation has always been stellar. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Scribner" To: "datsun roadsters" , "drone" , futofab at gsinet.net Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 3:52:43 PM Subject: [Roadsters] FW: FutoFab/VTO Vintage Racing Contingency I am not indorsing this person or his product but I am passing the info along. Make your our decision. Dana S1969 2000 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Patten Date: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 10:21 AM Subject: FutoFab/VTO Vintage Racing Contingency To: Dave at futofab.com Gentlemen, I know this is short notice but I am contacting you regarding a $150 contingency for using the recently introduced VTO Retro 4 in 13x7 +0 offset or VTO LeMans in 15x6 (+3 & +24 offset) or 15x7 (+0 &+12 offset). If you know of others that could benefit, please pass on the word. Don't hesitate to post this to your favorite message board or furum ste if you feel others would be interested. Here are the details: Purchase 4 or more 13x7 Retro 4 or any size LeMans VTO wheels for your Datsun (4x114.3 pattern only) on-line from FutoFab before August 30th. Use these wheels at one of the following vintage events on September 9-11, 2001, VSCDA Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival or the SVRA US Vintage Grand Prix at Watkins Glen Display FutoFab's 3"x5" decals ,one on each side of the car at one of the specified events. Send FutoFab a copy of the event results showing on track participation. (finishing position not important, all you have to do is get out on the track) and send us a photo of your car showing FutoFab's decals and VTO wheels on it at the event, preferably on track if possible. Upon completion of the above requirements FutoFab will send you a check for $150. Simple as that. Pass on the word to others. I hope this is of help to my fellow Datsun Racers. -- Dave Patten, Owner FutoFab, LLC 199 Stark Hwy So Dunbarton, NH 03046 Website - www.FutoFab.com e-mail - dave at futofab.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net From graemes at internode.on.net Mon Aug 22 18:36:35 2011 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:06:35 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] Distributor wire question? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E52F613.7000105@internode.on.net> On 23/08/2011 4:09 AM, The Ken Pearce wrote: > I have wire coming off the front of the distributor near the condenser that > either connected to ground, or to the front side of the ballast resistor on > the ignition coil. > > Been too long since I took it off to remember... Anyone know off hand where > it connects? > > Also, the vacuum advance tube / hose that connects to the distributor, is it > supposed to connect to one of the SU carbs or to the intake manifold? There's > a little black cap on the fitting on the intake manifold which tells me it > probably connected to one of the carbs. > > > Thanks, > > Ken > Bellingham, WA > 68-2000 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on.net > > The wire you describe sounds like the connection to the ballast resistor. Internally, it should connect to the distributor points, NOT ground. The vacuum advance connection MUST connect to the PORTED vacuum source on the SU carb. The port in question is at the base of the carb body and usually only one carb has it fitted. -- Regards, Graeme Suckling 1965 SP310 Datsun Sports 1971 P510 Datsun 1600 1972 PL510 Datsun 1600 LHD 1973 HS30 Datsun 240Z 1984 B120 Datsun 1200 utility 1993 ECR33 Skyline GTS25t http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of SU parts vacuum port.jpg] From spedlyy at comcast.net Mon Aug 22 20:46:46 2011 From: spedlyy at comcast.net (Spedlyy) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 19:46:46 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: FutoFab/VTO etc. wheels In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <218EBE14D79149FCBA7239A4AFC6F32F@XPS2008> I see that futofab sells a stud & spacer kit for their "Classic 8" (minilite/panasport knockoff?) wheels. It appears that a 1/8" spacer is required for clearance on the front for roadsters. http://www.futofab.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=27&Itemid=85 Is this common with aftermarket wheels? Any significant downside to doing this? Seems a bit kludgy to me... Ed York '68 1600 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Scribner" To: "datsun roadsters" ; "drone" ; Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 3:52 PM Subject: [Roadsters] FW: FutoFab/VTO Vintage Racing Contingency >I am not indorsing this person or his product but I am passing the info >along. > Make your our decision. Dana S1969 2000 > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: David Patten > Date: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 10:21 AM > > Subject: FutoFab/VTO Vintage Racing Contingency > To: Dave at futofab.com > > > Gentlemen, > I know this is short notice but I am contacting you regarding a $150 > contingency for using the recently introduced VTO Retro 4 in 13x7 +0 > offset > or VTO LeMans in 15x6 (+3 & +24 offset) or 15x7 (+0 &+12 offset). > > If you know of others that could benefit, please pass on the word. Don't > hesitate to post this to your favorite message board or furum ste if you > feel > others would be interested. > > Here are the details: > > Purchase 4 or more 13x7 Retro 4 or any size LeMans VTO wheels for your > Datsun > (4x114.3 pattern only) on-line from FutoFab before August 30th. > Use these wheels at one of the following vintage events on September 9-11, > 2001, VSCDA Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival or the SVRA US Vintage Grand > Prix at > Watkins Glen > Display FutoFab's 3"x5" decals ,one on each side of the car at one of the > specified events. > Send FutoFab a copy of the event results showing on track participation. > (finishing position not important, all you have to do is get out on the > track) > and send us a photo of your car showing FutoFab's decals and VTO wheels on > it > at the event, preferably on track if possible. > Upon completion of the above requirements FutoFab will send you a check > for > $150. Simple as that. > > Pass on the word to others. > > I hope this is of help to my fellow Datsun Racers. > > -- > > Dave Patten, Owner > > FutoFab, LLC > 199 Stark Hwy So > Dunbarton, NH 03046 > > Website - www.FutoFab.com > e-mail - dave at futofab.com > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/spedlyy at comcast.net From aultgc at att.net Mon Aug 22 21:36:18 2011 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 22:36:18 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Distributor wire question? References: Message-ID: <4BB1319210324B51AB82FA5500791D02@gaxp1> Ken, The distributor has NO external wires by itself. The condenser has a wire which is connected to the distributor body (ground). There is a terminal adjacent to the cap to which the wire coming from the negative (downstream from the ignition lead) side of the ballast resistor is connected. There is also a wire internal to the distributor which goes from an insulated connector where the ballast resistor lead enters to the hot side of the points. There is a secon internal wire which goes from the breaker plate to a ground connection on the distributor body. If your car has had the NAIS (Nissan Air Injection System) removed, and the distributor has been re-curved to pre-emission standards, the vacuum line connects to a little copper nipple on the top of the front carb. The connection on the intake manifold was for use with the NAIS. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Ken Pearce" To: Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 1:39 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Distributor wire question? >I have wire coming off the front of the distributor near the condenser that > either connected to ground, or to the front side of the ballast resistor > on > the ignition coil. > > Been too long since I took it off to remember... Anyone know off hand > where > it connects? > > Also, the vacuum advance tube / hose that connects to the distributor, is > it > supposed to connect to one of the SU carbs or to the intake manifold? > There's > a little black cap on the fitting on the intake manifold which tells me it > probably connected to one of the carbs. > > > Thanks, > > Ken > Bellingham, WA > 68-2000 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com Mon Aug 22 22:59:59 2011 From: gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com (Gordon Maness) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:59:59 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Distributor wire question? In-Reply-To: <4BB1319210324B51AB82FA5500791D02@gaxp1> References: , <4BB1319210324B51AB82FA5500791D02@gaxp1> Message-ID: I've wondered what that vacuum outlet was for. gwith a fleet > From: aultgc at att.net > To: ken__pearce at hotmail.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 22:36:18 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Distributor wire question? > > Ken, > > The distributor has NO external wires by itself. The condenser has a wire > which is connected to the distributor body (ground). There is a terminal > adjacent to the cap to which the wire coming from the negative (downstream > from the ignition lead) side of the ballast resistor is connected. > > There is also a wire internal to the distributor which goes from an > insulated connector where the ballast resistor lead enters to the hot side > of the points. There is a secon internal wire which goes from the breaker > plate to a ground connection on the distributor body. > > If your car has had the NAIS (Nissan Air Injection System) removed, and the > distributor has been re-curved to pre-emission standards, the vacuum line > connects to a little copper nipple on the top of the front carb. The > connection on the intake manifold was for use with the NAIS. > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The Ken Pearce" > To: > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 1:39 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Distributor wire question? > > > >I have wire coming off the front of the distributor near the condenser that > > either connected to ground, or to the front side of the ballast resistor > > on > > the ignition coil. > > > > Been too long since I took it off to remember... Anyone know off hand > > where > > it connects? > > > > Also, the vacuum advance tube / hose that connects to the distributor, is > > it > > supposed to connect to one of the SU carbs or to the intake manifold? > > There's > > a little black cap on the fitting on the intake manifold which tells me it > > probably connected to one of the carbs. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ken > > Bellingham, WA > > 68-2000 > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gordon.e.maness at hotmai l.com From etroxel at gmail.com Tue Aug 23 08:53:58 2011 From: etroxel at gmail.com (Evan Troxel) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 07:53:58 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Futofab/vto wheels for my roadster Message-ID: What is the best size/offset combo for a 69 roadster that is lowered a bit? I love the look of the panasport wheels on the roadster, and I haven't lowered mine yet. Do I need to do anything to the fenders before it goes to paint? I'm doing a bit of research at this point. Has anyone had any experience with this brand? Or know of others I should be looking at? Thanks, From sumton at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 23 09:42:53 2011 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:42:53 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Intake manifold question In-Reply-To: <9EDB29F452CF4AC8A32B12C5FD22FBD5@TAZ> References: <9EDB29F452CF4AC8A32B12C5FD22FBD5@TAZ> Message-ID: <4871697DE2294FFAB8C8130849A105AC@ranteer.local> My intake manifold (early 67 roadster) has matched holes on each side which are filled in by a bolt. seemed random but I never really investigated it. I just saw another manifold which has what I am assuming to be a hose assembly which apparently acts as a kind of balancer between the two. is there a compelling reason to do it one way or the other? does it matter? From sandhoff at csus.edu Tue Aug 23 10:31:19 2011 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 09:31:19 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Intake manifold question In-Reply-To: <4871697DE2294FFAB8C8130849A105AC@ranteer.local> References: <9EDB29F452CF4AC8A32B12C5FD22FBD5@TAZ> Message-ID: <4E537367.10570.A76B6@localhost> > My intake manifold (early 67 roadster) has matched holes on each > side which are filled in by a bolt.. > > I just saw another manifold which has what I am assuming to be a hose > assembly which apparently acts as a kind of balancer between the two. Are these threaded fittings on top of the runners? Sure sounds like the fittings for the smog pump plumbing, which would indicate that your car experienced a manifold swap somewhere along the way... -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From sumton at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 23 10:36:59 2011 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 11:36:59 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Intake manifold question In-Reply-To: <4E537367.10570.A76B6@localhost> References: <9EDB29F452CF4AC8A32B12C5FD22FBD5@TAZ> <4E537367.10570.A76B6@localhost> Message-ID: <2B41A0A687764BA4BD800757AC86A9EF@ranteer.local> no, these are just the engine side of the carbs. if you look at this picture http://tinyurl.com/3l3hpyt the little bolt head is very evident on the left (front) manifold halfway between the head and the carb. apparently this opening is supposed to be connected via hose to the right/rear manifold for balance -------------------------------------------------- From: "John F Sandhoff" Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:31 AM To: "oliver" Cc: Subject: Re: Intake manifold question > >> My intake manifold (early 67 roadster) has matched holes on each >> side which are filled in by a bolt.. >> >> I just saw another manifold which has what I am assuming to be a hose >> assembly which apparently acts as a kind of balancer between the two. > > Are these threaded fittings on top of the runners? Sure sounds like the > fittings for the smog pump plumbing, which would indicate that your > car experienced a manifold swap somewhere along the way... > > -- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From tputland at charter.net Tue Aug 23 10:47:05 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 12:47:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Intake manifold question Message-ID: <65a42d42.ace7b.131f789c2e4.Webtop.44@charter.net> Isn't that the part of the smog fitting plumbing? Tim On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 11:36 AM, oliver wrote: > no, these are just the engine side of the carbs. > > if you look at this picture http://tinyurl.com/3l3hpyt > > the little bolt head is very evident on the left (front) manifold > halfway between the head and the carb. > > apparently this opening is supposed to be connected via hose to the > right/rear manifold for balance > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "John F Sandhoff" > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:31 AM > To: "oliver" > Cc: > Subject: Re: Intake manifold question > >> >>> My intake manifold (early 67 roadster) has matched holes on each >>> side which are filled in by a bolt.. >>> >>> I just saw another manifold which has what I am assuming to be a >>> hose >>> assembly which apparently acts as a kind of balancer between the >>> two. >> >> Are these threaded fittings on top of the runners? Sure sounds like >> the >> fittings for the smog pump plumbing, which would indicate that your >> car experienced a manifold swap somewhere along the way... >> >> -- John >> John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Aug 23 13:03:52 2011 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 19:03:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Intake manifold question In-Reply-To: <2B41A0A687764BA4BD800757AC86A9EF@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <852472368.549815.1314126232400.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I was told (don't remember who or when) that those holes were from the casting/manufacturing process. The plugs are just that; plugs. Never seen a pic w/ 'em connected by hose or tubing. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "oliver" To: "Datsun" Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:36:59 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Intake manifold question no, these are just the engine side of the carbs. if you look at this picture http://tinyurl.com/3l3hpyt the little bolt head is very evident on the left (front) manifold halfway between the head and the carb. apparently this opening is supposed to be connected via hose to the right/rear manifold for balance -------------------------------------------------- From: "John F Sandhoff" Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:31 AM To: "oliver" Cc: Subject: Re: Intake manifold question > >> My intake manifold (early 67 roadster) has matched holes on each >> side which are filled in by a bolt.. >> >> I just saw another manifold which has what I am assuming to be a hose >> assembly which apparently acts as a kind of balancer between the two. > > Are these threaded fittings on top of the runners? Sure sounds like the > fittings for the smog pump plumbing, which would indicate that your > car experienced a manifold swap somewhere along the way... > > -- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net From rksmith46 at hotmail.com Tue Aug 23 16:22:31 2011 From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 18:22:31 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Futofab/vto wheels for my roadster In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hi, i rolled the fender openings on all 4 wheels(flattened the edge) of my 69 srl 311. on the rear fenders, i took strips of plywood, over- filled a bottle jack so it would jack sideways, and jacked the rear fenders out about an inch( which rebounded to 3/4 inch). this gave me a little more room for wide tires. and ,if it ever does rub the tire, the rolled fender lip wont cut the tire. best of luck, bob smith, ohio > From: etroxel at gmail.com > Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 07:53:58 -0700 > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Futofab/vto wheels for my roadster > > What is the best size/offset combo for a 69 roadster that is lowered a bit? > > I love the look of the panasport wheels on the roadster, and I haven't lowered > mine yet. Do I need to do anything to the fenders before it goes to paint? > > I'm doing a bit of research at this point. Has anyone had any experience with > this brand? Or know of others I should be looking at? > > Thanks, > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rksmith46 at hotmail.com From aultgc at att.net Tue Aug 23 17:05:42 2011 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 18:05:42 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Intake manifold question References: <9EDB29F452CF4AC8A32B12C5FD22FBD5@TAZ><4E537367.10570.A76B6@localhost> <2B41A0A687764BA4BD800757AC86A9EF@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <9B1AE296001D4FD29EF44049F3E70546@gaxp1> Oliver, If the plugged holes are about halfway between the carbsand the head, and about 3/8 NPT, they're called "balance tube plugs". Not sure what the original purpose was (because they are shown on early manifolds), but they were later adapted for use as the inlets for the anti-backfire portion of the Nissan Air Injection System. high vacuum allowing fresh air into the intake, diluting the incoming air/fuel mixture and preventing the backfire. Those holes do not need to be connected with a hose, since they're already part of the balance tube between the carbs. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "oliver" To: "Datsun" Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Intake manifold question > no, these are just the engine side of the carbs. > > if you look at this picture http://tinyurl.com/3l3hpyt > > the little bolt head is very evident on the left (front) manifold halfway > between the head and the carb. > > apparently this opening is supposed to be connected via hose to the > right/rear manifold for balance > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "John F Sandhoff" > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:31 AM > To: "oliver" > Cc: > Subject: Re: Intake manifold question > >> >>> My intake manifold (early 67 roadster) has matched holes on each >>> side which are filled in by a bolt.. >>> >>> I just saw another manifold which has what I am assuming to be a hose >>> assembly which apparently acts as a kind of balancer between the two. >> >> Are these threaded fittings on top of the runners? Sure sounds like the >> fittings for the smog pump plumbing, which would indicate that your >> car experienced a manifold swap somewhere along the way... >> >> -- John >> John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com Tue Aug 23 17:25:38 2011 From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 16:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] roadster sighting Message-ID: <1314141938.60835.YahooMailRC@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hi everyone i spotted an early car (low windshield), orange in color, Libra wheels, on Huntington Drive in Los Angeles. i pulled a U Turn to try to get a better look, as the driver sped away. anyone on the list? s From ken__pearce at hotmail.com Thu Aug 25 12:17:41 2011 From: ken__pearce at hotmail.com (The Ken Pearce) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 11:17:41 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] No spark... no run... :( Message-ID: Ok, down to debugging an electrical problem on my 68 2000... My initial guess is that my ignition coil is toast. Here are my observations: 1.) No spark on wires, not on the plug wires or the center coil wire when I crank it over. 2.) When ignition key is on, I have 0 volts between + and - terminals on coil 3.) When ignition key is on, I have 12 v between + on ignition coil and ground (fender of car) 4.) When ignition key is on, I have 12 v between - on ignition coil and ground (fender of car) (this one is weird) seems perhaps the coil is shorted and + and - are connected internally (thus explaining #4 above) Should the coil be producing high voltage (spark) on the coil wire all the time when 12v is applied to the + and - terminals on the coil? Does the distributor (cap, rotor, points, condenser) have any role in the ignition coil producing high voltage? Or does it just receive that voltage on the center wire hi-tension wire? I tried running a small wire directly from the battery neg terminal to the coil neg terminal and from the battery + to the coil +, still no spark... The coil is probably original, and could probably stand to be replaced anyway... Anyone with trouble shooting tips or techniques, I'm all ears! Thanks, Ken Bellingham, WA 68-2000 (oh so close to running...) From ken__pearce at hotmail.com Thu Aug 25 12:50:38 2011 From: ken__pearce at hotmail.com (The Ken Pearce) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 11:50:38 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] No spark... no run... :( In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Fouind this on Datsun.org I'll troubleshoot at lunch... might be my points... Ken Ignition Pull off the coil wire from the distributor, and hold it about 1/4" from a grounded piece of metal. Double check the hand brake is set, transmission in neutral, and have a friend crank the engine over. You should see a nice fat blue spark jump from the coil wire to ground. To make sure the cap and rotor are OK, if the coil wire test passed, pull the wire off a spark plug, insert a paper clip into the spark plug boot, and repeat the test (plug). IF OK, go to FUEL Test: If no spark is present, then remove the distributor cap and check the ignition points and wiring. A simple "light bulb tester" can confirm there is power at the ignition coil, and that the points are functional. Clip the light bulb tester across the ignition coils "+" and ground. With the ignition on, the bulb should light. (If not, the ignition switch, or wiring has a problem... you can "hot wire" the car by placing a jumper wire from the battery "+" terminal and "+" wire on the coil. Now clip it across the "+ and "-" terminals: When the points close, the light should come on, when the point are opened the light goes off. [Check the points, make sure they open and close, and the wiring is connected.] It that checks out, the coil is probably at fault. MOST electrical problems are just dirty & loose connections! > From: ken__pearce at hotmail.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 11:17:41 -0700 > Subject: [Roadsters] No spark... no run... :( > > Ok, down to debugging an electrical problem on my 68 2000... > > My initial guess is that my ignition coil is toast. Here are my > observations: > > 1.) No spark on wires, not on the plug wires or the center coil wire when I > crank it over. > 2.) When ignition key is on, I have 0 volts between + and - terminals on > coil > 3.) When ignition key is on, I have 12 v between + on ignition coil and > ground (fender of car) > 4.) When ignition key is on, I have 12 v between - on ignition coil and > ground (fender of car) (this one is weird) > > seems perhaps the coil is shorted and + and - are connected internally (thus > explaining #4 above) > > Should the coil be producing high voltage (spark) on the coil wire all the > time when 12v is applied to the + and - terminals on the coil? Does the > distributor (cap, rotor, points, condenser) have any role in the ignition coil > producing high voltage? Or does it just receive that voltage on the center > wire hi-tension wire? > > I tried running a small wire directly from the battery neg terminal to the > coil neg terminal and from the battery + to the coil +, still no spark... > > The coil is probably original, and could probably stand to be replaced > anyway... > > Anyone with trouble shooting tips or techniques, I'm all ears! > > Thanks, > > Ken > Bellingham, WA > 68-2000 (oh so close to running...) > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ken__pearce at hotmail.co m From ken__pearce at hotmail.com Thu Aug 25 18:23:44 2011 From: ken__pearce at hotmail.com (The Ken Pearce) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 17:23:44 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] No spark... no run... :( In-Reply-To: <7C6EA48CD9F84284A202623DA253B108@hercules> References: , <7C6EA48CD9F84284A202623DA253B108@hercules> Message-ID: OK, I'm getting conflicting information about the wire (16 ga or so) on the outside of the distributor, front side (towards radiator) that had a spade connector. Does this go to the POS or NEG spade terminal on the ignition coil? Thanks for all the help... Ken Bellingham, WA 68-2000 > From: roadsters311 at rogers.com > To: ken__pearce at hotmail.com > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] No spark... no run... :( > Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:54:47 -0400 > > Check the carbon point at the top of the inside of the cap..it has > to touch the rotor... > you should get a spark when the points open and close.. > if points are blue...change the condenser.. > Al > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The Ken Pearce" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:50 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] No spark... no run... :( > > > > Fouind this on Datsun.org I'll troubleshoot at lunch... might be my > > points... > > > > Ken > > > > Ignition > > > > > > > > > > > > Pull off the coil wire from the distributor, and hold it about 1/4" from > > a grounded piece of metal. Double check the hand brake is set, > > transmission in neutral, and have a friend crank the engine over. You > > should see a nice fat blue spark jump from the coil wire to ground. > > > > > > > > > > > > To make sure the cap and rotor are OK, if the coil wire test passed, > > pull the wire off a spark plug, insert a paper clip into the spark plug > > boot, and repeat the test (plug). > > > > > > > > > > > > IF OK, go to FUEL Test: > > > > > > > > > > > > If no spark is present, then remove the distributor cap and check the > > ignition > > points and wiring. > > > > > > > > > > > > A simple "light bulb tester" can confirm there is power at the ignition > > coil, > > and that the points are functional. > > > > > > > > > > > > Clip the light bulb tester across the ignition coils "+" and ground. > > With the ignition on, the bulb should light. (If not, the ignition > > switch, or wiring has a problem... you can "hot wire" the car by placing > > a jumper wire from the battery "+" terminal and "+" wire on the coil. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now clip it across the "+ and "-" terminals: When the points close, the > > light should come on, when the point are opened the light goes off. > > [Check the points, make sure they open and close, and the wiring is > > connected.] > > > > > > > > > > > > It that checks out, the coil is probably at fault. MOST electrical > > problems > > are just dirty & loose connections! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> From: ken__pearce at hotmail.com > >> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > >> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 11:17:41 -0700 > >> Subject: [Roadsters] No spark... no run... :( > >> > >> Ok, down to debugging an electrical problem on my 68 2000... > >> > >> My initial guess is that my ignition coil is toast. Here are my > >> observations: > >> > >> 1.) No spark on wires, not on the plug wires or the center coil wire > >> when > > I > >> crank it over. > >> 2.) When ignition key is on, I have 0 volts between + and - terminals on > >> coil > >> 3.) When ignition key is on, I have 12 v between + on ignition coil and > >> ground (fender of car) > >> 4.) When ignition key is on, I have 12 v between - on ignition coil and > >> ground (fender of car) (this one is weird) > >> > >> seems perhaps the coil is shorted and + and - are connected internally > > (thus > >> explaining #4 above) > >> > >> Should the coil be producing high voltage (spark) on the coil wire all > >> the > >> time when 12v is applied to the + and - terminals on the coil? Does > >> the > >> distributor (cap, rotor, points, condenser) have any role in the ignition > > coil > >> producing high voltage? Or does it just receive that voltage on the > >> center > >> wire hi-tension wire? > >> > >> I tried running a small wire directly from the battery neg terminal to > >> the > >> coil neg terminal and from the battery + to the coil +, still no > >> spark... > >> > >> The coil is probably original, and could probably stand to be replaced > >> anyway... > >> > >> Anyone with trouble shooting tips or techniques, I'm all ears! > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Ken > >> Bellingham, WA > >> 68-2000 (oh so close to running...) > >> ________________________________________ > >> > >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ken__pearce at hotmail.co > > m > > ________________________________________ > > > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadsters311 at rogers.co m From ken__pearce at hotmail.com Fri Aug 26 02:34:30 2011 From: ken__pearce at hotmail.com (The Ken Pearce) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 01:34:30 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] No spark... no run... (IT'S ALIVE!!!!) In-Reply-To: References: , , , <7C6EA48CD9F84284A202623DA253B108@hercules>, , Message-ID: A huge thank you to all that responded to my questions. I had two problems... 1.) I had the distributor spade wire on the wrong side of the ignition coil. It does go to NEG... 2.) The funky braided wire inside the distributor was burnt, toast, gone to Jesus... as I removed it, it fell into two pieces... I made another wire to replace it, and viola! The U20 started right up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x43dJdoKXps (this was before adjusting timing or carbs...) Started right up... Victory! At least for now... lots of additional things to be fixed, but at least I'm driving it again. And the engine pulls hard! Woo Hoo! And the transmission seems to work. I had disassembled the tranny to fix the 5th gear neutral problem and this was my first foray into transmission work. I'm still too chicken to try the welded 5th gear, but after I enjoy the car a bit around town I'll get up the courage and gently try it without putting too much force on it. Now to figure out how to keep the valve cover from leaking (seaping ever so slightly at the passenger rear corner). The gasket is relatively new, but I don't want to over tighten the nuts... Anyone make a custom gasket out of something that seals better? Cheers! See you all at Shasta 2012 if not sooner... Ken Bellingham, WA 68-2000 From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com To: ken__pearce at hotmail.com Subject: RE: [Roadsters] No spark... no run... :( Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 00:26:43 -0400 hi ken, the wire from the dist. goes to the neg.post on the coil (the points complete the ground, when closed) good luck, bob smith, ohio > From: ken__pearce at hotmail.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 17:23:44 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] No spark... no run... :( > > OK, I'm getting conflicting information about the wire (16 ga or so) on the > outside of the distributor, front side (towards radiator) that had a spade > connector. Does this go to the POS or NEG spade terminal on the ignition > coil? > > Thanks for all the help... > > Ken > Bellingham, WA > 68-2000 From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Fri Aug 26 05:21:58 2011 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (cour.jpeg at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 11:21:58 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] No spark... no run... (IT'S ALIVE!!!!) In-Reply-To: References: , , , <7C6EA48CD9F84284A202623DA253B108@hercules>, , Message-ID: <751822005-1314357718-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1755631812-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> I've coated my valve cover gaskets with the non-hardening Permatex, #1 perhaps it's called. #2 is more durable, but you have to scrape and clean, plus there's risk of having to pry up an edge of the cover. Used to set my valves on the R16 every season, new gasket each time; low use these days, haven't checked for years. Next time I will try one of these silicone-based gasket sealants. It should be easy to seal; no pressure to aggravate a leak. I've had some seepage from the rubber inserts under the washers beneath the valve cover bolts, but nothing a quick wipe didn't handle. Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: The Ken Pearce Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 01:34:30 To: Subject: Re: [Roadsters] No spark... no run... (IT'S ALIVE!!!!) A huge thank you to all that responded to my questions. I had two problems... 1.) I had the distributor spade wire on the wrong side of the ignition coil. It does go to NEG... 2.) The funky braided wire inside the distributor was burnt, toast, gone to Jesus... as I removed it, it fell into two pieces... I made another wire to replace it, and viola! The U20 started right up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x43dJdoKXps (this was before adjusting timing or carbs...) Started right up... Victory! At least for now... lots of additional things to be fixed, but at least I'm driving it again. And the engine pulls hard! Woo Hoo! And the transmission seems to work. I had disassembled the tranny to fix the 5th gear neutral problem and this was my first foray into transmission work. I'm still too chicken to try the welded 5th gear, but after I enjoy the car a bit around town I'll get up the courage and gently try it without putting too much force on it. Now to figure out how to keep the valve cover from leaking (seaping ever so slightly at the passenger rear corner). The gasket is relatively new, but I don't want to over tighten the nuts... Anyone make a custom gasket out of something that seals better? Cheers! See you all at Shasta 2012 if not sooner... Ken Bellingham, WA 68-2000 From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com To: ken__pearce at hotmail.com Subject: RE: [Roadsters] No spark... no run... :( Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 00:26:43 -0400 hi ken, the wire from the dist. goes to the neg.post on the coil (the points complete the ground, when closed) good luck, bob smith, ohio > From: ken__pearce at hotmail.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 17:23:44 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] No spark... no run... :( > > OK, I'm getting conflicting information about the wire (16 ga or so) on the > outside of the distributor, front side (towards radiator) that had a spade > connector. Does this go to the POS or NEG spade terminal on the ignition > coil? > > Thanks for all the help... > > Ken > Bellingham, WA > 68-2000 ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com From ken__pearce at hotmail.com Fri Aug 26 16:28:50 2011 From: ken__pearce at hotmail.com (The Ken Pearce) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 15:28:50 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] No spark... no run... (IT'S ALIVE!!!!) In-Reply-To: <4E57A432.15081.11030B9@localhost> References: , <4E57A432.15081.11030B9@localhost> Message-ID: Thanks John! Oh it's definitely the valve cover and not the head gasket. I actually did a happy dance when I carefully looked at that... I used the thicker head gasket that Dean sells and the special sealant for all the oil passages. Not a leak anywhere other than the valve cover, and it appears to have stopped as I have tightened the two nut bolts. Ran it down Chuckanut Drive (my new daily commute) this afternoon and she wants to run! I forgot how fun these cars are on a nice sunny day with a twisty road overlooking the ocean. I'll get a GoPro HD camera and get some video of my commute. It's pretty epic.. Had a new set of tires put on this morning. My 15 year old set of hardly used Michellins were cracking on the sidewalls so bad that it wasn't worth trying to get anymore miles or years out of them. This cars are not ones in which you want to have a blowout when you least expect it. The guys at Les Schwab were cool, they even hand torqued each lugnut as I had asked them to be "gentle" with their impact air wrenches... Cheers, Ken Bow, WA 68-2000 > From: sandhoff at csus.edu > To: ken__pearce at hotmail.com > Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 13:48:34 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] No spark... no run... (IT'S ALIVE!!!!) > > > > 2.) The funky braided wire inside the distributor was burnt, toast, gone to > > Jesus... as I removed it, it fell into two pieces... > > With the distributor wire connected to the (+) side of the coil, this wire > acted as a fuse. By frying itself it saved lots of other things. > > > Now to figure out how to keep the valve cover from leaking (seaping > > ever so slightly at the passenger rear corner). > > Hmmm, be sure it's the valve cover that's leaking, and not from > the head/block junction. The U20 is notorious for a slight oil > leak at that corner, because that's where the oil feeds up into > the head. Never head gaskets have an extra seal at that spot. > Clean the head really well, then start it up and see if the leak is > from the cover (dribbles down the head), or from the head/block > (head stays clean). > > -- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA > > p.s. Congrats on getting it back to life! I'm jealous - I haven't had > mine out at all this summer :-( From member at linkedin.com Sat Aug 27 15:48:00 2011 From: member at linkedin.com (Mike Faggart via LinkedIn) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:48:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn Message-ID: <1179163398.1254545.1314481680106.JavaMail.app@ela4-app0133.prod> LinkedIn ------------ Mike Faggart requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn: ------------------------------------------ Datsun Roadster, I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Mike Accept invitation from Mike Faggart http://www.linkedin.com/e/-i8ng1o-grv4gbmu-2t/Gi15MJviM-cRhLsWZ1ibVV6j1___ijs05pcE2V2iMNQF1Cg/blk/I135764816_115/6lColZJrmZznQNdhjRQnOpBtn9QfmhBt71BoSd1p65Lr6lOfPkNclYScjwQdzsRcP59bQt7ljkThzpcbPsOejAUcPsPej8LrCBxbOYWrSlI/EML_comm_afe/ View invitation from Mike Faggart http://www.linkedin.com/e/-i8ng1o-grv4gbmu-2t/Gi15MJviM-cRhLsWZ1ibVV6j1___ijs05pcE2V2iMNQF1Cg/blk/I135764816_115/dj4NnPoNe3gSdPkPckALqnpPbOYWrSlI/svi/ ------------------------------------------ Why might connecting with Mike Faggart be a good idea? People Mike Faggart knows can discover your profile: Connecting to Mike Faggart will attract the attention of LinkedIn users. See who's been viewing your profile: http://www.linkedin.com/e/-i8ng1o-grv4gbmu-2t/wvp/inv18_wvmp/ -- (c) 2011, LinkedIn Corporation From chalsted at comcast.net Sat Aug 27 18:22:15 2011 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 00:22:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] LinkedIn invitations Message-ID: <623479122.328710.1314490935646.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> screw these LinkedIn people...when someone "joins" LinkedIn, part of the conditions of service allow them to mail everyone in your address book telling them that you have invited them to join LinkedIn... and that's just plain a bunch of crap and I wouldn't even consider joining them. it just seems that folks don't realize that they are giving LinkedIn permission to access all of their personal information stored on their computer or at a minimum to access all your Facebook info...this is spam, plain and simple, they should be identified as a purveyor of spam and should be blocked by Norton and other computer security providers. just my rant for the day...roadster content, brought the car I plan to take to the Glen in for paint today...can't believe how much I still need to get done on it...may be still putting it together up in the state park at our campsite the couple days before the event...8-) Craig or at From davesmbox at aol.com Sat Aug 27 18:39:44 2011 From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 20:39:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] LinkedIn invitations In-Reply-To: <623479122.328710.1314490935646.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <623479122.328710.1314490935646.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <8CE33321D5E98C6-AAC-2179E@webmail-d145.sysops.aol.com> Craig, Linkein is? USEFULL tool when you are networking to find a job. Dave Murphy -----Original Message----- From: chalsted <chalsted at comcast.net> To: datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Sent: Sat, Aug 27, 2011 8:23 pm Subject: [Roadsters] LinkedIn invitations screw these LinkedIn people...when someone "joins" LinkedIn, part of the conditions of service allow them to mail everyone in your address book telling them that you have invited them to join LinkedIn... and that's just plain a bunch of crap and I wouldn't even consider joining them. it just seems that folks don't realize that they are giving LinkedIn permission to access all of their personal information stored on their computer or at a minimum to access all your Facebook info...this is spam, plain and simple, they should be identified as a purveyor of spam and should be blocked by Norton and other computer security providers. just my rant for the day...roadster content, brought the car I plan to take to the Glen in for paint today...can't believe how much I still need to get done on it...may be still putting it together up in the state park at our campsite the couple days before the event...8-) Craig or at ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/davesmbox at aol.com From tom at datsun2000.com Sat Aug 27 22:41:00 2011 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:41:00 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] LinkedIn invitations In-Reply-To: <8CE33321D5E98C6-AAC-2179E@webmail-d145.sysops.aol.com> References: <623479122.328710.1314490935646.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8CE33321D5E98C6-AAC-2179E@webmail-d145.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I use a program called MailWasher to sort this stuff out. Lindekin is specifically blacklisted, even if sent by a friend, and while I can see it on my mail server it is deleted before I download the notice into my computer. Spammers hate this program because it sorts them out and deletes them before the target can get a chance to read whatever. I have also found it to be a good virus protection because most bogus e-mails never get into my PC. Roadster content. I received a package from Dean with the new grease fitting boots and 23 MM sway bar bushings for Mr. Hyde. Now to sweat it out and start changing parts so I can lube Mr. Hyde. The boot on one upper ball joint has completely disolved. The joints appear to be good, but you can see right in there. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Las Vegas http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of davesmbox at aol.com Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 5:40 PM To: chalsted at comcast.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] LinkedIn invitations Craig, Linkein is? USEFULL tool when you are networking to find a job. Dave Murphy -----Original Message----- From: chalsted <chalsted at comcast.net> To: datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Sent: Sat, Aug 27, 2011 8:23 pm Subject: [Roadsters] LinkedIn invitations screw these LinkedIn people...when someone "joins" LinkedIn, part of the conditions of service allow them to mail everyone in your address book telling them that you have invited them to join LinkedIn... and that's just plain a bunch of crap and I wouldn't even consider joining them. it just seems that folks don't realize that they are giving LinkedIn permission to access all of their personal information stored on their computer or at a minimum to access all your Facebook info...this is spam, plain and simple, they should be identified as a purveyor of spam and should be blocked by Norton and other computer security providers. just my rant for the day...roadster content, brought the car I plan to take to the Glen in for paint today...can't believe how much I still need to get done on it...may be still putting it together up in the state park at our campsite the couple days before the event...8-) Craig or at ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/davesmbox at aol.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tom at datsun2000.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3860 - Release Date: 08/26/11 From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Sun Aug 28 05:26:27 2011 From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 07:26:27 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Irene In-Reply-To: References: <623479122.328710.1314490935646.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8CE33321D5E98C6-AAC-2179E@webmail-d145.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <3A12C8B8-2D5A-4774-8621-FC531F981C1F@yahoo.com> >From the jersey shore we are fine, a good sized oak down but it missed structures Soggy but fine Jim g manasquan nj Sent from my iPhone On Aug 28, 2011, at 12:41 AM, "Tom Hendricksen" wrote: > I use a program called MailWasher to sort this stuff out. Lindekin is > specifically blacklisted, even if sent by a friend, and while I can see it > on my mail server it is deleted before I download the notice into my > computer. Spammers hate this program because it sorts them out and deletes > them before the target can get a chance to read whatever. I have also found > it to be a good virus protection because most bogus e-mails never get into > my PC. > > Roadster content. I received a package from Dean with the new grease > fitting boots and 23 MM sway bar bushings for Mr. Hyde. Now to sweat it out > and start changing parts so I can lube Mr. Hyde. The boot on one upper ball > joint has completely disolved. The joints appear to be good, but you can > see right in there. > > Tom > 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde > Las Vegas > http://www.datsun2000.com > http://www.nowroc.org > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > davesmbox at aol.com > Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 5:40 PM > To: chalsted at comcast.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] LinkedIn invitations > > Craig, > Linkein is? USEFULL tool when you are networking to find a job. > Dave Murphy > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: chalsted <chalsted at comcast.net> > To: datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> > Sent: Sat, Aug 27, 2011 8:23 pm > Subject: [Roadsters] LinkedIn invitations > > > > > screw these LinkedIn people...when someone "joins" LinkedIn, part of the > conditions of service allow them to mail everyone in your address book > telling them that you have invited them to join LinkedIn... and that's just > plain a bunch of crap and I wouldn't even consider joining them. it just > seems that folks don't realize that they are giving LinkedIn permission to > access all of their personal information stored on their computer or at a > minimum to access all your Facebook info...this is spam, plain and simple, > they should be identified as a purveyor of spam and should be blocked by > Norton and other computer security providers. just my rant for the > day...roadster content, brought the car I plan to take to the Glen in for > paint today...can't believe how much I still need to get done on it...may be > still putting it together up in the state park at our campsite the couple > days before the event...8-) Craig or at > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/davesmbox at aol.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tom at datsun2000.com > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3860 - Release Date: 08/26/11 > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com From graemes at internode.on.net Sun Aug 28 05:30:28 2011 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:00:28 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] Irene In-Reply-To: <3A12C8B8-2D5A-4774-8621-FC531F981C1F@yahoo.com> References: <623479122.328710.1314490935646.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8CE33321D5E98C6-AAC-2179E@webmail-d145.sysops.aol.com> <3A12C8B8-2D5A-4774-8621-FC531F981C1F@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4E5A26D4.903@internode.on.net> On 28/08/2011 8:56 PM, Jim Gammon wrote: > From the jersey shore we are fine, a good sized oak down but it missed > structures > > Soggy but fine > > Jim g manasquan nj > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 28, 2011, at 12:41 AM, "Tom Hendricksen" wrote: > >> I use a program called MailWasher to sort this stuff out. Lindekin is >> specifically blacklisted, even if sent by a friend, and while I can see it >> on my mail server it is deleted before I download the notice into my >> computer. Spammers hate this program because it sorts them out and deletes >> them before the target can get a chance to read whatever. I have also > found >> it to be a good virus protection because most bogus e-mails never get into >> my PC. >> >> Roadster content. I received a package from Dean with the new grease >> fitting boots and 23 MM sway bar bushings for Mr. Hyde. Now to sweat it > out >> and start changing parts so I can lube Mr. Hyde. The boot on one upper > ball >> joint has completely disolved. The joints appear to be good, but you can >> see right in there. >> >> Tom >> 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde >> Las Vegas >> http://www.datsun2000.com >> http://www.nowroc.org >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net >> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of >> davesmbox at aol.com >> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 5:40 PM >> To: chalsted at comcast.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] LinkedIn invitations >> >> Craig, >> Linkein is? USEFULL tool when you are networking to find a job. >> Dave Murphy >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: chalsted<chalsted at comcast.net> >> To: datsun-roadsters<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> >> Sent: Sat, Aug 27, 2011 8:23 pm >> Subject: [Roadsters] LinkedIn invitations >> >> >> >> >> screw these LinkedIn people...when someone "joins" LinkedIn, part of the >> conditions of service allow them to mail everyone in your address book >> telling them that you have invited them to join LinkedIn... and that's just >> plain a bunch of crap and I wouldn't even consider joining them. it just >> seems that folks don't realize that they are giving LinkedIn permission to >> access all of their personal information stored on their computer or at a >> minimum to access all your Facebook info...this is spam, plain and simple, >> they should be identified as a purveyor of spam and should be blocked by >> Norton and other computer security providers. just my rant for the >> day...roadster content, brought the car I plan to take to the Glen in for >> paint today...can't believe how much I still need to get done on it...may > be >> still putting it together up in the state park at our campsite the couple >> days before the event...8-) Craig or at >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/davesmbox at aol.com >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tom at datsun2000.com >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3860 - Release Date: 08/26/11 >> ________________________________________ >> >> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on.net > > Take care, we all have to take cover when Nature gets upset! -- Regards, Graeme Suckling 1965 SP310 Datsun Sports 1971 P510 Datsun 1600 1972 PL510 Datsun 1600 LHD 1973 HS30 Datsun 240Z 1984 B120 Datsun 1200 utility 1993 ECR33 Skyline GTS25t http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia. From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Sun Aug 28 06:43:04 2011 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (cour.jpeg at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 12:43:04 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Irene Message-ID: <2087324360-1314535412-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-171387839-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> Annapolis here, all fine. Lost power last night around 10pm, simply went to bed. This morning powered up the generator for hot coffee, to run the well pump, bring fridge temp down and water heater up, plus charge the UPS running the FiOS router. TV and internet fiber intact. Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sun Aug 28 12:42:09 2011 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 11:42:09 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] LinkedIn invitations In-Reply-To: <623479122.328710.1314490935646.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <623479122.328710.1314490935646.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <001b01cc65b2$31f278a0$95d769e0$@net> As Dave mentioned, LinkedIn can be a useful job hunt tool. However..... After LinkedIn scans your address book, -YOU- can select who does and who does -NOT- get sent an invitation. The problem is not LinkedIn, but between the keyboard and the chair. Just sayin'.... Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of chalsted at comcast.net Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 5:22 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] LinkedIn invitations screw these LinkedIn people...when someone "joins" LinkedIn, part of the conditions of service allow them to mail everyone in your address book telling them that you have invited them to join LinkedIn... and that's just plain a bunch of crap and I wouldn't even consider joining them. it just seems that folks don't realize that they are giving LinkedIn permission to access all of their personal information stored on their computer or at a minimum to access all your Facebook info...this is spam, plain and simple, they should be identified as a purveyor of spam and should be blocked by Norton and other computer security providers. just my rant for the day...roadster content, brought the car I plan to take to the Glen in for paint today...can't believe how much I still need to get done on it...may be still putting it together up in the state park at our campsite the couple days before the event...8-) Craig or at ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From jsk977 at optonline.net Sun Aug 28 14:03:13 2011 From: jsk977 at optonline.net (Jerry Krakauer) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:03:13 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Irene In-Reply-To: <3A12C8B8-2D5A-4774-8621-FC531F981C1F@yahoo.com> References: <623479122.328710.1314490935646.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8CE33321D5E98C6-AAC-2179E@webmail-d145.sysops.aol.com> <3A12C8B8-2D5A-4774-8621-FC531F981C1F@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001e01cc65bd$85330740$8f9915c0$@net> Jim, Up here in Morris County we weren't supposed to get much trouble, but lost power for 14 hours, guess you never know. Jerry Krakauer -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Gammon Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 7:26 AM To: tom at datsun2000.com Cc: Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Irene >From the jersey shore we are fine, a good sized oak down but it missed structures Soggy but fine Jim g manasquan nj From aultgc at att.net Sun Aug 28 17:40:14 2011 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] LinkedIn invitations In-Reply-To: <623479122.328710.1314490935646.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <623479122.328710.1314490935646.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1314574814.67694.YahooMailRC@web180208.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Craig, I just delete LinkedIn invitations. If I get a second such invitation, I permanently block the sender. Problem solved. Gary To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, August 27, 2011 7:22:15 PM Subject: [Roadsters] LinkedIn invitations screw these LinkedIn people...when someone "joins" LinkedIn, part of the conditions of service allow them to mail everyone in your address book telling them that you have invited them to join LinkedIn... and that's just plain a bunch of crap and I wouldn't even consider joining them. it just seems that folks don't realize that they are giving LinkedIn permission to access all of their personal information stored on their computer or at a minimum to access all your Facebook info...this is spam, plain and simple, they should be identified as a purveyor of spam and should be blocked by Norton and other computer security providers. just my rant for the day...roadster content, brought the car I plan to take to the Glen in for paint today...can't believe how much I still need to get done on it...may be still putting it together up in the state park at our campsite the couple days before the event...8-) Craig or at ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com Sun Aug 28 19:06:37 2011 From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:06:37 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] LinkedIn invitations In-Reply-To: <001b01cc65b2$31f278a0$95d769e0$@net> References: <623479122.328710.1314490935646.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <001b01cc65b2$31f278a0$95d769e0$@net> Message-ID: About two days after I signed on to Likedin, I started getting investment spam by the boat load. I tried to sign out (?) but I still get some of their crap. Paul On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Pete Peters wrote: > As Dave mentioned, LinkedIn can be a useful job hunt tool. However..... > > After LinkedIn scans your address book, -YOU- can select who does and who > does -NOT- get sent an invitation. The problem is not LinkedIn, but between > the keyboard and the chair. > > Just sayin'.... > > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > chalsted at comcast.net > Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 5:22 PM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] LinkedIn invitations > > screw these LinkedIn people...when someone "joins" LinkedIn, part of the > conditions of service allow them to mail everyone in your address book > telling them that you have invited them to join LinkedIn... and that's just > plain a bunch of crap and I wouldn't even consider joining them. it just > seems that folks don't realize that they are giving LinkedIn permission to > access all of their personal information stored on their computer or at a > minimum to access all your Facebook info...this is spam, plain and simple, > they should be identified as a purveyor of spam and should be blocked by > Norton and other computer security providers. just my rant for the > day...roadster content, brought the car I plan to take to the Glen in for > paint today...can't believe how much I still need to get done on it...may > be > still putting it together up in the state park at our campsite the couple > days before the event...8-) > Craig or at > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne > t > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com From sumton at sbcglobal.net Sun Aug 28 20:02:46 2011 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:02:46 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] parking brake handle Message-ID: <813DF8F873DF4478B356C491BADC11D1@ranteer.local> early 67 roadster - parking brake was quite loose so I tightened the turnbuckle under the car past the "relay lever" seemed ok; worked. now the black button on the end of the handle has disappeared down into the tube. will this come back if I loosen it? what happened and how do I prevent that from reoccuring? was it too tight? From aultgc at att.net Sun Aug 28 21:42:11 2011 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 22:42:11 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] parking brake handle References: <813DF8F873DF4478B356C491BADC11D1@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <02FC685B85104698B37B4FC87C5B5010@gaxp1> Oliver, If by "loose", you mean it took too many "clicks" to set the brake, your first effort should have been to make sure the rear brakes are properly adjusted. That is normally the "problem" when one has to pull the handle too far to set the brake. The brake should be set with 5 or 6 "clicks" on the ratchet mechanism. I don't think tightening the cable should have affected the position of the release button. The release button/rod releases a pawl which acts on a rachet plate within the handle mechanism. It sounds like something has slipped out of place, but I cannot be sure. Try releaxing the cable. If the button comes back, then I'm wrong. The hand brake mechanism is Figure 35 in the Nissan parts manual. If you have one of those $15 DVDs with the service manaul and parts listing, you can call up the exploded diagram of the handle. If you don't have it, I can scan the figure for you, but I don't have time tonight. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "oliver" To: "Datsun" Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 9:02 PM Subject: [Roadsters] parking brake handle > early 67 roadster - parking brake was quite loose so I tightened the > turnbuckle under the car past the "relay lever" > > seemed ok; worked. > > now the black button on the end of the handle has disappeared down into > the > tube. will this come back if I loosen it? what happened and how do I > prevent > that from reoccuring? was it too tight? > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From graemes at internode.on.net Sun Aug 28 22:44:28 2011 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme Suckling) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:14:28 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] parking brake handle In-Reply-To: <813DF8F873DF4478B356C491BADC11D1@ranteer.local> References: <813DF8F873DF4478B356C491BADC11D1@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <4E5B192C.7090703@internode.on.net> On 29/08/2011 11:32 AM, oliver wrote: > early 67 roadster - parking brake was quite loose so I tightened the > turnbuckle under the car past the "relay lever" > > seemed ok; worked. > > now the black button on the end of the handle has disappeared down into the > tube. will this come back if I loosen it? what happened and how do I prevent > that from reoccuring? was it too tight? > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on.net > > The black button is a release for the EB pawl. It has no relationship to the cable and adjustment thereof. Just for you Oliver, since the List will not see it, is the attached piccy;-) -- Regards, Graeme Suckling 1965 SP310 Datsun Sports 1971 P510 Datsun 1600 1972 PL510 Datsun 1600 LHD 1973 HS30 Datsun 240Z 1984 B120 Datsun 1200 utility 1993 ECR33 Skyline GTS25t http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of SP[L]311 handbrake.JPG] From jh.bahn at verizon.net Mon Aug 29 06:29:26 2011 From: jh.bahn at verizon.net (jh.bahn at verizon.net) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 08:29:26 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] LinkedIn Mea Culpa In-Reply-To: References: <623479122.328710.1314490935646.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <001b01cc65b2$31f278a0$95d769e0$@net> Message-ID: <74235D72A33346F283EE6BDAB5E94BB2@BahnTHINK> I am responsible for a recent flurry of linkedin activity. I use it for business only and was attempting to upgrade some contacts since my retirement. Between user ineptness and the inclusive nature of linkedin software, I apparently invited everyone in the galaxy to join. Not my intention. My apologies to all. JH Bahn From tputland at charter.net Mon Aug 29 08:35:53 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 10:35:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 timing gears Message-ID: <22d5807a.13dabc.13215f7ca8c.Webtop.47@charter.net> Is there a tool needed to pull the timing set from an R16? Thanks Tim From paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com Mon Aug 29 09:55:07 2011 From: paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com (Paul Kort) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:55:07 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 timing gears In-Reply-To: <22d5807a.13dabc.13215f7ca8c.Webtop.47@charter.net> References: <22d5807a.13dabc.13215f7ca8c.Webtop.47@charter.net> Message-ID: Everything should just slide apart. We've torn down a dozen R16s at the race barn and never had a problem. Paul Ohio On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Tim wrote: > Is there a tool needed to pull the timing set from an R16? > > Thanks > > Tim > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/paulsdatsunstuff at gmail.com From tputland at charter.net Mon Aug 29 10:01:24 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:01:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] H20 crank needed Message-ID: <55b91374.13f056.132164615f1.Webtop.47@charter.net> I did some searching on CL but didn't find anything in WI. Any help out there? Thanks tim From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Aug 29 10:49:00 2011 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 16:49:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] H20 crank needed In-Reply-To: <55b91374.13f056.132164615f1.Webtop.47@charter.net> Message-ID: <1775869701.807498.1314636540032.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I have never seen an H20 crank on craigslist in any state. Unless I can score a U20 crank cheap (yeah, right), I figured I'd have to buy an H20 crank new for my stroker project..... ........when I get around to pursuing my stroker project. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 9:01:24 AM Subject: [Roadsters] H20 crank needed I did some searching on CL but didn't find anything in WI. Any help out there? Thanks tim ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net From aultgc at att.net Mon Aug 29 11:46:56 2011 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 10:46:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 timing gears In-Reply-To: <22d5807a.13dabc.13215f7ca8c.Webtop.47@charter.net> References: <22d5807a.13dabc.13215f7ca8c.Webtop.47@charter.net> Message-ID: <1314640016.5515.YahooMailRC@web180207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Tim, Typically, no. It's just like the crank to jackshaft sprockets and chains on a U20. If they don't just slip off, something is amiss, like corrosion on the crank or camshaft. Gary ________________________________ From: Tim To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Sent: Mon, August 29, 2011 9:35:53 AM Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 timing gears Is there a tool needed to pull the timing set from an R16? Thanks Tim ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From escarcega at cox.net Mon Aug 29 13:23:45 2011 From: escarcega at cox.net (Marty Escarcega) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:23:45 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] '67 1600 Longblock, 4spd trans available. Message-ID: I have a good rebuildable longblock out of a 67 roadster, I have the head too but it was shaved too much. I would like to help another roadster owner out. Kicking in a few bucks or swapping towards something we might be able to use appreciated. I am in Mesa, AZ, the engine/trans is in Tempe and out of the car. Email me directly if you are interested. escarcegaATcoxDOTnet. From davesmbox at aol.com Mon Aug 29 15:48:27 2011 From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:48:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Tires OT Saab Sonett Message-ID: <8CE34AC84E68C85-1D18-35175@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> What is up with tires these days. I went looking for a spare for the Sonett. You would think I was buying a Saturn Booster. 155/70/15???? Come on. ? No Luck Sears ,Firestone, Joes discount tires They can't even order it. ? Dave From tputland at charter.net Mon Aug 29 16:15:19 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:15:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Tires OT Saab Sonett Message-ID: <61bf0712.147547.132179c6961.Webtop.46@charter.net> did you try tirerack.com? On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 4:48 PM, davesmbox at aol.com wrote: > What is up with tires these days. I went looking for a spare for the > Sonett. > You would think I was buying a Saturn Booster. > 155/70/15???? Come on. > ? > No Luck Sears ,Firestone, Joes discount tires They can't even order > it. > ? > Dave > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From lee.ehinger at frontier.com Mon Aug 29 16:28:43 2011 From: lee.ehinger at frontier.com (Lee Ehinger) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:28:43 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Tires OT Saab Sonett In-Reply-To: <8CE34AC84E68C85-1D18-35175@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <348F5B569AF9481BB10018C44360CA20@ehingerhome> Tire rack didn't have 155/70 /15s or 165/70/15s either... Try Coker tire = Summit Racing sells them too Lee -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of davesmbox at aol.com Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 5:48 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Tires OT Saab Sonett What is up with tires these days. I went looking for a spare for the Sonett. You would think I was buying a Saturn Booster. 155/70/15???? Come on. ? No Luck Sears ,Firestone, Joes discount tires They can't even order it. ? Dave ________________________________________ From tminerpcav at aol.com Mon Aug 29 16:38:07 2011 From: tminerpcav at aol.com (tminerpcav at aol.com) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:38:07 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Tires OT Saab Sonett In-Reply-To: <61bf0712.147547.132179c6961.Webtop.46@charter.net> References: <61bf0712.147547.132179c6961.Webtop.46@charter.net> Message-ID: <8CE34B3756213BD-1380-3DCF2@webmail-d097.sysops.aol.com> You can find these thru Universal Tires or Coker Tires. -----Original Message----- From: Tim To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, Aug 29, 2011 3:35 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Tires OT Saab Sonett did you try tirerack.com? On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 4:48 PM, davesmbox at aol.com wrote: > What is up with tires these days. I went looking for a spare for the > Sonett. > You would think I was buying a Saturn Booster. > 155/70/15???? Come on. > ? > No Luck Sears ,Firestone, Joes discount tires They can't even order > it. > ? > Dave > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tminerpcav at aol.com From stebharvey at ameritech.net Mon Aug 29 19:46:30 2011 From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 20:46:30 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Tires OT Saab Sonett In-Reply-To: <8CE34B3756213BD-1380-3DCF2@webmail-d097.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Try finding a 16.5 x 8.5 RV tire and a rim to go with it! Steb -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of tminerpcav at aol.com Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 5:38 PM To: tputland at charter.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Tires OT Saab Sonett You can find these thru Universal Tires or Coker Tires. -----Original Message----- From: Tim To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, Aug 29, 2011 3:35 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Tires OT Saab Sonett did you try tirerack.com? On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 4:48 PM, davesmbox at aol.com wrote: > What is up with tires these days. I went looking for a spare for the > Sonett. > You would think I was buying a Saturn Booster. > 155/70/15???? Come on. > ? > No Luck Sears ,Firestone, Joes discount tires They can't even order > it. > ? > Dave > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tminerpcav at aol.com ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/stebharvey at ameritech. net From lee.ehinger at frontier.com Tue Aug 30 06:30:39 2011 From: lee.ehinger at frontier.com (Lee Ehinger) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 08:30:39 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 68 2000 - CA - Bringatrailer Message-ID: <02734167DC704020882BC23AFC4F902E@ehingerhome> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/08/29/grandpas-1968-datsun-2000/ From tputland at charter.net Tue Aug 30 16:41:30 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:41:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] main bearing bolt holes Message-ID: <65c5b348.152422.1321cdac0c3.Webtop.45@charter.net> While finishing stripping an R16 block, I have found oil (very dirty gritty oil) in all five of the bolt holes on the fuel pump side of the block main bearings. The five on the other side were all dry. Does this raise any red flags as to the general health of this block? I do not know the history of it at all. Thanks Tim From cour.jpeg at gmail.com Tue Aug 30 17:24:24 2011 From: cour.jpeg at gmail.com (cour.jpeg at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 23:24:24 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] main bearing bolt holes In-Reply-To: <65c5b348.152422.1321cdac0c3.Webtop.45@charter.net> References: <65c5b348.152422.1321cdac0c3.Webtop.45@charter.net> Message-ID: <1017345980-1314746665-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2065672714-@b15.c10.bise6.blackberry> Could have been stored on its side. The dirt is more worrisome than where the oil had accumulated. How nasty did the underside look when you dropped the oil pan? Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg -----Original Message----- From: Tim Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:41:30 To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] main bearing bolt holes While finishing stripping an R16 block, I have found oil (very dirty gritty oil) in all five of the bolt holes on the fuel pump side of the block main bearings. The five on the other side were all dry. Does this raise any red flags as to the general health of this block? I do not know the history of it at all. Thanks Tim ________________________________________ datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com From tputland at charter.net Wed Aug 31 04:52:23 2011 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 06:52:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] main bearing bolt holes Message-ID: <3ba6f577.155e18.1321f77e32f.Webtop.48@charter.net> The underside of the engine was actually not too bad; no debris in the oil pan and no sludge. I am a little concerned about the discolouration of the moving parts but this will all be checked out by someone who knows what they are looking at. Thanks On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 6:24 PM, cour.jpeg at gmail.com wrote: > Could have been stored on its side. The dirt is more worrisome than > where the oil had accumulated. > > How nasty did the underside look when you dropped the oil pan? > > Another ~ZoltVolt~ wireless picture msg > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim > Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 > 18:41:30 To: datsun-roadsters: > autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] main bearing bolt holes > > While finishing stripping an R16 block, I have found oil (very dirty > gritty oil) in all five of the bolt holes on the fuel pump side of the > block main bearings. The five on the other side were all dry. > > Does this raise any red flags as to the general health of this block? > I do not know the history of it at all. > > Thanks > > Tim > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/courjpeg at gmail.com