From boakes at gmail.com Wed Sep 1 09:14:05 2010 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 10:14:05 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] In need of clutch parts Message-ID: Hey gang, was planning on putting the engine in this weekend in the '68 2000 but then realized I'm missing a some parts. If you remember, I got this car in parts and just figured out a the vital missing pieces now. I need: The plate that is between the engine and tranny (I have 3 for a 240z, sure wish those were interchangable) Also the fork, throwout bearing and sleeve, everything but the slave itself. Anyone? thanks Bill Oakes Libertyville, IL From mantolik at oh.rr.com Wed Sep 1 09:41:24 2010 From: mantolik at oh.rr.com (Mark) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 11:41:24 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Vibration Message-ID: <4C7E7424.4060405@oh.rr.com> I had the engine trans out of my 70 SRL and noticed the trans mount was in dire need of replacement. I used the Prothane mount as it seemed the closest to the stock thickness. It was a fairly painless swap....but now I have this vibration that starts to be noticeable at about 40 MPH - it gets smoother as speed goes up but it is still noticeable....does not change with the clutch in or the trans out of gear and coasting. It is very apparent for in the 40-55 MPH range. My first reaction was to replace the u-joints, absolutely no change. So I am now wondering if anyone has a stock 5-speed trans mount they could measure for thickness? Mine was so far gone I could not salvage the pieces.....! Or could this be a drive shaft balance problem? Mark -Ohio From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Sep 1 12:13:12 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 11:13:12 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Clutches Message-ID: <001a01cb4a01$5770bce0$065236a0$@net> >From the Bluebirds list. Please reply directly to Chad: a73gearhead at gmail.com Pete From: bluebirds-request at bluebirds.datsun510.com [mailto:bluebirds-request at bluebirds.datsun510.com] On Behalf Of noneofyourbusiness Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 10:40 AM To: Bluebird List Subject: Clutches Anyone have any experience with AISIN clutches? I'm looking for a roadster clutch kit or in pieces. They seem to be getting hard to come by. Factory ones are on perma back order. Feel free to contact me off list or on. Thanks Chad From gsglasgow at comcast.net Wed Sep 1 12:15:32 2010 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 11:15:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Vibration In-Reply-To: <4C7E7424.4060405@oh.rr.com> References: <4C7E7424.4060405@oh.rr.com> Message-ID: 5-speed trans mount is about 1.95" or 50 mm top to bottom. When you put the driveshaft back in, did you make sure to get the phasing right on the u-joints? That can cause vibrations. http://www.bmwmotorcycletech.info/phasing.htm Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:41 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Vibration I had the engine trans out of my 70 SRL and noticed the trans mount was in dire need of replacement. I used the Prothane mount as it seemed the closest to the stock thickness. It was a fairly painless swap....but now I have this vibration that starts to be noticeable at about 40 MPH - it gets smoother as speed goes up but it is still noticeable....does not change with the clutch in or the trans out of gear and coasting. It is very apparent for in the 40-55 MPH range. My first reaction was to replace the u-joints, absolutely no change. So I am now wondering if anyone has a stock 5-speed trans mount they could measure for thickness? Mine was so far gone I could not salvage the pieces.....! Or could this be a drive shaft balance problem? Mark -Ohio ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gsglasgow at comcast.net From mantolik at oh.rr.com Wed Sep 1 12:40:32 2010 From: mantolik at oh.rr.com (Mark) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:40:32 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Vibration In-Reply-To: References: <4C7E7424.4060405@oh.rr.com> Message-ID: <4C7E9E20.6050308@oh.rr.com> The mount is close to that dimension - I am going to pull it and verify just in case... But in a quick look a few minutes ago, phasing may be out - while not at 90 degrees out, I wonder if something less will cause it - ? I guess the splines on the front of the shaft will allow it to go together in a multitude of positions? Mark On 9/1/2010 2:15 PM, Gordon Glasgow wrote: > 5-speed trans mount is about 1.95" or 50 mm top to bottom. > > When you put the driveshaft back in, did you make sure to get the phasing > right on the u-joints? That can cause vibrations. > http://www.bmwmotorcycletech.info/phasing.htm > > > Gordon Glasgow > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:41 AM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Vibration > > I had the engine trans out of my 70 SRL and noticed the trans mount > was in dire need of replacement. I used the Prothane mount as it seemed > the closest to the stock thickness. It was a fairly painless > swap....but now I have this vibration that starts to be noticeable at > about 40 MPH - it gets smoother as speed goes up but it is still > noticeable....does not change with the clutch in or the trans out of > gear and coasting. It is very apparent for in the 40-55 MPH range. My > first reaction was to replace the u-joints, absolutely no change. So I > am now wondering if anyone has a stock 5-speed trans mount they could > measure for thickness? Mine was so far gone I could not salvage the > pieces.....! Or could this be a drive shaft balance problem? > > Mark > -Ohio > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gsglasgow at comcast.net From notoptoy at live.com Wed Sep 1 12:41:05 2010 From: notoptoy at live.com (Tom Lorick) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 14:41:05 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Vibration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No change whatsoever after changing the joints is worrisome and while it's reasonable to suspect driveline balancing - I don't think so. That said, it's pretty cheap to do and should be considered regardless (mine was $85 to have it balanced). Have you ruled out wheels/tires? Did you make sure to install the universal joints "in proper phase" (probably not an issue with new joints at least not right away)? I am not sure how the transmission mount being a little tall, or a little short alone would cause a vibration. Maybe you have torqued it down out of alignment, try loosening the mount and shifting the engine/transmission until straight, and then re-torque. Also is it possible the vibration is from the way it is running, and it just wasn't noticed before because the old mount was so shot? One more thing, check the engine mounts, if the tranny mount was shot the engine mounts may not be far behind. After all of that, then you may have to start looking internal to the transmission. My $0.02 worth -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 2:00 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 4, Issue 330 Send Datsun-roadsters mailing list submissions to datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at datsun-roadsters-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Datsun-roadsters digest..." From gsglasgow at comcast.net Wed Sep 1 13:10:38 2010 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 12:10:38 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Vibration In-Reply-To: <4C7E9E20.6050308@oh.rr.com> References: <4C7E7424.4060405@oh.rr.com> <4C7E9E20.6050308@oh.rr.com> Message-ID: Yes, any misalignment of the u-joints can cause vibration in varying amounts. And, yes, the multitude of splines makes it very easy to correct the problem. The last time I had my driveshaft rebuilt, they actually stenciled matching arrows on the yoke and the shaft to make it obvious which way it was supposed to go. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: Mark [mailto:mantolik at oh.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 11:41 AM To: Gordon Glasgow Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Vibration The mount is close to that dimension - I am going to pull it and verify just in case... But in a quick look a few minutes ago, phasing may be out - while not at 90 degrees out, I wonder if something less will cause it - ? I guess the splines on the front of the shaft will allow it to go together in a multitude of positions? Mark On 9/1/2010 2:15 PM, Gordon Glasgow wrote: > 5-speed trans mount is about 1.95" or 50 mm top to bottom. > > When you put the driveshaft back in, did you make sure to get the phasing > right on the u-joints? That can cause vibrations. > http://www.bmwmotorcycletech.info/phasing.htm > > > Gordon Glasgow > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:41 AM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Vibration > > I had the engine trans out of my 70 SRL and noticed the trans mount > was in dire need of replacement. I used the Prothane mount as it seemed > the closest to the stock thickness. It was a fairly painless > swap....but now I have this vibration that starts to be noticeable at > about 40 MPH - it gets smoother as speed goes up but it is still > noticeable....does not change with the clutch in or the trans out of > gear and coasting. It is very apparent for in the 40-55 MPH range. My > first reaction was to replace the u-joints, absolutely no change. So I > am now wondering if anyone has a stock 5-speed trans mount they could > measure for thickness? Mine was so far gone I could not salvage the > pieces.....! Or could this be a drive shaft balance problem? > > Mark > -Ohio > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gsglasgow at comcast.net From jake7140 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 1 13:25:16 2010 From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 12:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival Sept 10-12 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <762485.54409.qm@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To anyone in the area or willing to make a trip: I plan on being there all weekend and looking for mid-pack. woohoo, but I'm way outclassed in the VSCDA structure. Look for the red #33 yard sign, I'll hopefully be along the main pit road at the bottom of the hill, across the street form corner 5. It's always a great vintage scene with a lot of very nice machinery of all sorts. I again plan to be giving rides during lunch hour Sat & Sun unless no one wants to go OR I finagle a drive in someone's red Cheetah. Hope to see you there for the "final" Road America brat of the summer. PS: Watch out for the mini brats some stands are passing off. Only settle for the real deal. For more info see: http://www.vscda.org/races/elkhartLake.php - General info http://www.vscda.org/races/pdfs/elvfSchedule.pdf - the preliminary schedule - I'm in group 8, and trying the Enduro www.roadamerica.com - RA's site with public info www.NoNameRacing.com - My site with pics and vid of the car Steve Steve's racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society www.elrss.com From dave at ranteer.com Wed Sep 1 13:23:34 2010 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 14:23:34 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] [SPAM] Re: Vibration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I had a vibration problem due to a bent drive shaft -------------------------------------------------- From mantolik at oh.rr.com Wed Sep 1 14:30:42 2010 From: mantolik at oh.rr.com (Mark) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:30:42 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Vibration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C7EB7F2.30109@oh.rr.com> Here is where I am now - phasing was a bit off - less than 90 degrees, but off - and I have corrected it...but no change. I do not suspect wheels/tires as it is felt in the entire car....with and without the car in gear/clutch in...and all was smooth before I pulled everything out. Same for the rough engine - the vibration doesn't change based on engine speed, just ground speed. Engine mounts are new(er) - maybe a year ago, but no real miles on them. I guess I need to concentrate on alignment....hard to believe I could get it that far off, but I guess anything is possible. I will get the jack stands back out and take a look! May take a day or 2, but I will report back what I find! Mark On 9/1/2010 2:41 PM, Tom Lorick wrote: > No change whatsoever after changing the joints is worrisome and while it's > reasonable to suspect driveline balancing - I don't think so. That said, > it's pretty cheap to do and should be considered regardless (mine was $85 to > have it balanced). Have you ruled out wheels/tires? Did you make sure to > install the universal joints "in proper phase" (probably not an issue with > new joints at least not right away)? > > I am not sure how the transmission mount being a little tall, or a little > short alone would cause a vibration. Maybe you have torqued it down out of > alignment, try loosening the mount and shifting the engine/transmission > until straight, and then re-torque. > > Also is it possible the vibration is from the way it is running, and it just > wasn't noticed before because the old mount was so shot? One more thing, > check the engine mounts, if the tranny mount was shot the engine mounts may > not be far behind. > After all of that, then you may have to start looking internal to the > transmission. > My $0.02 worth > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 2:00 PM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 4, Issue 330 > > Send Datsun-roadsters mailing list submissions to > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > datsun-roadsters-owner at autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of Datsun-roadsters digest..." > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/mantolik at oh.rr.com From datrock at centurytel.net Wed Sep 1 16:01:47 2010 From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 15:01:47 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Vibration In-Reply-To: <4C7EB7F2.30109@oh.rr.com> References: <4C7EB7F2.30109@oh.rr.com> Message-ID: <4C7ECD4B.9080204@centurytel.net> Mark, Unless you can locate the splined yoke's alignment mark through the shifter hole, I would remove the driveline and yoke and match up the all "0" stamp marks that they have on them , they are not easy to see but they are there. Your driveline could still be 180 degrees off from where it originally was if you do not know where the "0" is located on the splined yoke, hope this helps... Bill From fj20spl311 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 1 16:27:21 2010 From: fj20spl311 at yahoo.com (philip erickson) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 15:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 4, Issue 330 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <669598.72385.qm@web120213.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> IIRC, the 2000 has a slip joint in the shaft. Are the u-joint "timed-aligned" correctly. The "crosses" must be in the same location. Phil Hey gang, was planning on putting the engine in this weekend in the '68 2000 but then realized I'm missing a some parts. If you remember, I got this car in parts and just figured out a the vital missing pieces now. I need: The plate that is between the engine and tranny (I have 3 for a 240z, sure wish those were interchangable) Also the fork, throwout bearing and sleeve, everything but the slave itself. Anyone? thanks Bill Oakes Libertyville, IL ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 11:41:24 -0400 From: Mark Subject: [Roadsters] Vibration To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Message-ID: <4C7E7424.4060405 at oh.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I had the engine trans out of my 70 SRL and noticed the trans mount was in dire need of replacement. I used the Prothane mount as it seemed the closest to the stock thickness. It was a fairly painless swap....but now I have this vibration that starts to be noticeable at about 40 MPH - it gets smoother as speed goes up but it is still noticeable....does not change with the clutch in or the trans out of gear and coasting. It is very apparent for in the 40-55 MPH range. My first reaction was to replace the u-joints, absolutely no change. So I am now wondering if anyone has a stock 5-speed trans mount they could measure for thickness? Mine was so far gone I could not salvage the pieces.....! Or could this be a drive shaft balance problem? Mark -Ohio ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters mailing list Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters End of Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 4, Issue 330 ************************************************ From mantolik at oh.rr.com Wed Sep 1 16:59:33 2010 From: mantolik at oh.rr.com (Mark) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 18:59:33 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Vibration In-Reply-To: <4C7ECD4B.9080204@centurytel.net> References: <4C7EB7F2.30109@oh.rr.com> <4C7ECD4B.9080204@centurytel.net> Message-ID: <4C7EDAD5.9060509@oh.rr.com> Yikes! I didn't know there were any markings! While it is up on the stands, I will certainly look - mine still has the rubber boot over the shaft...is it under that? Thanks! On 9/1/2010 6:01 PM, Bill Cole wrote: > Mark, Unless you can locate the splined yoke's alignment mark through > the shifter hole, I would remove the driveline and yoke and match up > the all "0" stamp marks that they have on them , they are not easy to > see but they are there. Your driveline could still be 180 degrees off > from where it originally was if you do not know where the "0" is > located on the splined yoke, hope this helps... Bill From eddietude at socal.rr.com Wed Sep 1 10:05:43 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 09:05:43 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Vibration In-Reply-To: <4C7E7424.4060405@oh.rr.com> References: <4C7E7424.4060405@oh.rr.com> Message-ID: <4C7E79D7.4080807@socal.rr.com> Rule of thumb in diagnosing problems: 1) 99% of the time, if a problem shows up right after you've changed something, whatever you've changed is what's causing the problem. 2) Don't start changing other things until you've determined that what you changed initially is definitely NOT the cause of the new problem. Otherwise, you jut increase the potential to cause more issues and make the situation even harder to diagnose. Questions regarding your situation: Was the vibration there before you changed the tranny mount from the old crummy one to the new prothane mount? Yes or No? Is it possible when you reinstalled the new mount, etc, that somehow the tranny is now NOT perfectly in line with the rear axle? (If the trans isn't lined up straight, that could easily cause a wobble.) Eddie Mark wrote: > I had the engine trans out of my 70 SRL and noticed the trans mount > was in dire need of replacement. I used the Prothane mount as it > seemed the closest to the stock thickness. It was a fairly painless > swap....but now I have this vibration that starts to be noticeable at > about 40 MPH - it gets smoother as speed goes up but it is still > noticeable....does not change with the clutch in or the trans out of > gear and coasting. It is very apparent for in the 40-55 MPH range. > My first reaction was to replace the u-joints, absolutely no change. > So I am now wondering if anyone has a stock 5-speed trans mount they > could measure for thickness? Mine was so far gone I could not > salvage the pieces.....! Or could this be a drive shaft balance problem? > > Mark > -Ohio > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From aultgc at att.net Thu Sep 2 00:17:20 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 01:17:20 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 Aluminum Oil Pan Message-ID: <6B60A3F88B8D4397AE1B6E70C03810B3@gaxp1> Item 260657720700 being offered on eBay is said to be an aluminum oil pan for the 1600. It looks like it will fit. Has anyone ever seen one like this? Did Nissan make these for racing 1600s? Gary From jh.bahn at verizon.net Thu Sep 2 01:58:30 2010 From: jh.bahn at verizon.net (JH Bahn) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 03:58:30 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 Aluminum Oil Pan In-Reply-To: <6B60A3F88B8D4397AE1B6E70C03810B3@gaxp1> References: <6B60A3F88B8D4397AE1B6E70C03810B3@gaxp1> Message-ID: I believe that pan is off of a 411 SSS. Note the sort of "anvil shape" of the lower portion. I have an AL pan with straight sides - like the original steel one - if anyone is interested. Will also have a lot of high performance stuff - ranging from a new set of Carrillo rods, to a rebuilt ultra close ratio tranny, to new ISKY push rods, to just about anything else you can think of. JH Bahn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 2:17 AM Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 Aluminum Oil Pan > Item 260657720700 being offered on eBay is said to be an aluminum oil pan > for > the 1600. It looks like it will fit. Has anyone ever seen one like this? > Did Nissan make these for racing 1600s? > > Gary > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/vze3bsfc at verizon.net From 9laser3 at bright.net Thu Sep 2 04:35:36 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 06:35:36 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 Aluminum Oil Pan In-Reply-To: <6B60A3F88B8D4397AE1B6E70C03810B3@gaxp1> References: <6B60A3F88B8D4397AE1B6E70C03810B3@gaxp1> Message-ID: <003201cb4a8a$95797b60$c06c7220$@net> Looks a lot like the pan that was on my '69 1600. No clearance problems with it. I retired that 4 speed when I swapped in the KA24 so I can't go look. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary and Cindy Ault Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 2:17 AM To: Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 Aluminum Oil Pan Item 260657720700 being offered on eBay is said to be an aluminum oil pan for the 1600. It looks like it will fit. Has anyone ever seen one like this? Did Nissan make these for racing 1600s? Gary ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Sep 2 10:47:18 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 09:47:18 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 Aluminum Oil Pan In-Reply-To: References: <6B60A3F88B8D4397AE1B6E70C03810B3@gaxp1> Message-ID: <003001cb4abe$81fc0510$85f40f30$@net> Yup. Fins are a bit different, but shape identical to oil pan on my 411 R16 engine. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of JH Bahn Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 12:59 AM To: Gary and Cindy Ault; Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 Aluminum Oil Pan I believe that pan is off of a 411 SSS. Note the sort of "anvil shape" of the lower portion. [snip] JH Bahn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 2:17 AM Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 Aluminum Oil Pan > Item 260657720700 being offered on eBay is said to be an aluminum oil pan > for the 1600. It looks like it will fit. Has anyone ever seen one like this? > Did Nissan make these for racing 1600s? > > Gary > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/vze3bsfc at verizon.net ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From wilhouse at charter.net Thu Sep 2 16:25:48 2010 From: wilhouse at charter.net (Ken & Tammy Williams) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 17:25:48 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Who's Dave, and is he here?? Message-ID: Hey, While I was away on vacation, somebody put a Rock Auto magnetic business card on my truck. It has a photo of Dave's roadster on it. Apparently, Dave used Rock Auto Parts for his restoration. Has anybody else seen this? Ken Williams '67 1600 From twobeaners at earthlink.net Thu Sep 2 16:57:02 2010 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 17:57:02 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Who's Dave, and is he here?? References: Message-ID: Uh........"Dave's not here".......... Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed (Joke BTW) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken & Tammy Williams" To: Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 5:25 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Who's Dave, and is he here?? > Hey, > While I was away on vacation, somebody put a Rock Auto magnetic business > card > on my truck. It has a photo of Dave's roadster on it. Apparently, Dave > used > Rock Auto Parts for his restoration. > Has anybody else seen this? > Ken Williams > '67 1600 From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Sep 2 17:16:32 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 16:16:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Who's Dave, and is he here?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006d01cb4af4$e212ce30$a6386a90$@net> Didn't get one, but Dave got his roadster on the RockAuto magnet a year or 3 ago. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ken & Tammy Williams Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 3:26 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Who's Dave, and is he here?? Hey, While I was away on vacation, somebody put a Rock Auto magnetic business card on my truck. It has a photo of Dave's roadster on it. Apparently, Dave used Rock Auto Parts for his restoration. Has anybody else seen this? Ken Williams '67 1600 ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com Thu Sep 2 17:31:16 2010 From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 19:31:16 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Who's Dave, and is he here?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0C5A6B50E65347E686883267896272C1@jrussoPC> Yep, got 'em all over my tool box and beer fridge (Thanks Dave) -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ken & Tammy Williams Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 6:26 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Who's Dave, and is he here?? Hey, While I was away on vacation, somebody put a Rock Auto magnetic business card on my truck. It has a photo of Dave's roadster on it. Apparently, Dave used Rock Auto Parts for his restoration. Has anybody else seen this? Ken Williams '67 1600 ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/jrusso07 at rochester.rr .com From alagams at juno.com Thu Sep 2 17:48:59 2010 From: alagams at juno.com (alagams at juno.com) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 23:48:59 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] Who's Dave, and is he here?? Message-ID: <20100902.194859.15203.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com> That's Dbrick car and yes he's here. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Ken & Tammy Williams" To: Subject: [Roadsters] Who's Dave, and is he here?? Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 17:25:48 -0500 Hey, While I was away on vacation, somebody put a Rock Auto magnetic business card on my truck. It has a photo of Dave's roadster on it. Apparently, Dave used Rock Auto Parts for his restoration. Has anybody else seen this? Ken Williams '67 1600 ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/alagams at juno.com ____________________________________________________________ Globe Life Insurance $1* Buys $50,000 Life Insurance. Adults or Children. No Medical Exam. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c803814a60b29aea63st02duc From twobeaners at earthlink.net Thu Sep 2 18:53:31 2010 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 19:53:31 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Who's Dave, and is he here?? References: <20100902.194859.15203.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <5D863FFE37FF4DE9B0CC5C68C10547AA@lap120> I vaguely remembered from previous posts, of a similar nature, that it was probably him, and when anyone, anywhere, asks "Where's Dave?" ...this is my usual response,...and for the record,....I'm glad he's here! IMHO, he is one of the 'good ones'. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Who's Dave, and is he here?? > That's Dbrick car and yes he's here. From dogermac at aol.com Fri Sep 3 06:54:58 2010 From: dogermac at aol.com (Dogermac) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 08:54:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] alternators Message-ID: <8CD197E592E2AC8-A18-D30E@webmail-m081.sysops.aol.com> I needed a new alternator and checked my 311 parts interchange and ordered the one for the Ford Courier. it arrived several hours later and the pivot bolt mounting bracket is different. The original one has an extended bolt boss that mounts to a boss on the block and an arm off the front of the engine. The Ford alt' is also a Mitsibishi and all else is the same except that the two pivot ears don't match up to the boss on the block. Is it OK to cut off the rear boss from the new alternator and mount it just by the front pivot bracket ear and the adjustment ear. Doesn't seem too solid. Perhaps I should just send the old alt' in for rebuild? Jim From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com Fri Sep 3 09:27:06 2010 From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 08:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] alternators In-Reply-To: <8CD197E592E2AC8-A18-D30E@webmail-m081.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CD197E592E2AC8-A18-D30E@webmail-m081.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <942678.71865.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> it will break, eventually, if you use only 2 mounting places. at least, that is my experience with trying to mount a GM one wire that way. s 675MIZU ________________________________ From: Dogermac To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 5:54:58 AM Subject: [Roadsters] alternators I needed a new alternator and checked my 311 parts interchange and ordered the one for the Ford Courier. it arrived several hours later and the pivot bolt mounting bracket is different. The original one has an extended bolt boss that mounts to a boss on the block and an arm off the front of the engine. The Ford alt' is also a Mitsibishi and all else is the same except that the two pivot ears don't match up to the boss on the block. Is it OK to cut off the rear boss from the new alternator and mount it just by the front pivot bracket ear and the adjustment ear. Doesn't seem too solid. Perhaps I should just send the old alt' in for rebuild? Jim ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com From datsun67vette06 at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 3 10:13:40 2010 From: datsun67vette06 at sbcglobal.net (Kerry Dehmel) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 09:13:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Bob White Message-ID: <908035.32778.qm@web83810.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> For all those in the central California Area..... The roadster community has lost another member. Bob White passed away this morning after a long battle with heart and lung disease. He was a long time member from the Fresno area along with his wife Patrice. He drove a red 1970 until last year when he sold it. (At 75 years old it was to hard to get in and out of and maintain for him) He will be missed by family and friends here but no longer has to suffer his physical pain of just breathing. Kerry Dehmel Fresno, CA 1967.5 Datsun Roadster -- 1600 Blue 2006 Corvette Coupe-- Monterey red From wrenchorhammer at live.com Fri Sep 3 10:31:23 2010 From: wrenchorhammer at live.com (Jim In Virginia) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 12:31:23 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] The old 65 helps out one more time for Hurricane Earl Message-ID: For All, Some weeks ago I let the list know I was parting out a 65 1600, number 2718. She is almost gone now, and has helped out about 4 different list members with good parts deals, plus supplied me with front fenders and a rear clip. The front fenders had rust in all the usual low down back places but the nose of them, where there is usually always dents and bondo, is perfect, and the rear clip has minor dents and rusty dog legs, but is much better than the badly dented and creased rear half of my running car (which looks good from 20 feet, but has lots of fiberglass, POR 15, and filler making it so....). Thought the list would be amused to know there is one more job in life for number 2718: In preparation for Hurricane Earl, I parked my boat in the grass to make it harder to roll, lowered the trailer tongue onto the grass, and dragged half the front suspension (probably about 150 pounds) over and on top of the trailer tongue to prevent the wind from getting the boat and trailer underway and pushing it into some other vehicle......so even in death, 2718 has helped one more time! Hurricane Earl turned out to be no big deal, even though I got an admin leave day off from work, so I am catching up on E-mails until the storm stops, and then can start a nice long weekend. I still need a good set of rocker panels....and then I will be ready to some day build an (almost) bondo free proper body for my car. I am getting quite good with my wire feed welder, and will weld up most of the imperfections with new metal....but of course there is always going to be a slight touch of filler here and there. Best Regards, Jim From ljordan704 at netscape.net Fri Sep 3 12:06:39 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2010 14:06:39 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] alternators In-Reply-To: <8CD197E592E2AC8-A18-D30E@webmail-m081.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CD197E592E2AC8-A18-D30E@webmail-m081.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CD19A9E406EA75-1AC-25AF@Webmail-m111.sysops.aol.com> One casting is for the late cars and one is for the early cars, I believe,( 2 ears vs 1 ear mounting) Linda -----Original Message----- From: Dogermac To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, Sep 3, 2010 5:54 am Subject: [Roadsters] alternators I needed a new alternator and checked my 311 parts interchange and ordered the one for the Ford Courier. it arrived several hours later and the pivot bolt mounting bracket is different. The original one has an extended bolt boss that mounts to a boss on the block and an arm off the front of the engine. The Ford alt' is also a Mitsibishi and all else is the same except that the two pivot ears don't match up to the boss on the block. Is it OK to cut off the rear boss from the new alternator and mount it just by the front pivot bracket ear and the adjustment ear. Doesn't seem too solid. Perhaps I should just send the old alt' in for rebuild? Jim ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From ljordan704 at netscape.net Fri Sep 3 12:09:54 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2010 14:09:54 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] The old 65 helps out one more time for Hurricane Earl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CD19AA57FA556B-1AC-2674@Webmail-m111.sysops.aol.com> You guys are hardy back there. Just all, sun, traffic, and gangs here in L.A. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Jim In Virginia To: Datsun Roadsters send mail Sent: Fri, Sep 3, 2010 9:31 am Subject: [Roadsters] The old 65 helps out one more time for Hurricane Earl For All, Some weeks ago I let the list know I was parting out a 65 1600, number 2718. She is almost gone now, and has helped out about 4 different list members with good parts deals, plus supplied me with front fenders and a rear clip. The front fenders had rust in all the usual low down back places but the nose of them, where there is usually always dents and bondo, is perfect, and the rear clip has minor dents and rusty dog legs, but is much better than the badly dented and creased rear half of my running car (which looks good from 20 feet, but has lots of fiberglass, POR 15, and filler making it so....). Thought the list would be amused to know there is one more job in life for number 2718: In preparation for Hurricane Earl, I parked my boat in the grass to make it harder to roll, lowered the trailer tongue onto the grass, and dragged half the front suspension (probably about 150 pounds) over and on top of the trailer tongue to prevent the wind from getting the boat and trailer underway and pushing it into some other vehicle......so even in death, 2718 has helped one more time! Hurricane Earl turned out to be no big deal, even though I got an admin leave day off from work, so I am catching up on E-mails until the storm stops, and then can start a nice long weekend. I still need a good set of rocker panels....and then I will be ready to some day build an (almost) bondo free proper body for my car. I am getting quite good with my wire feed welder, and will weld up most of the imperfections with new metal....but of course there is always going to be a slight touch of filler here and there. Best Regards, Jim ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri Sep 3 12:25:32 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 11:25:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] alternators In-Reply-To: <8CD197E592E2AC8-A18-D30E@webmail-m081.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CD197E592E2AC8-A18-D30E@webmail-m081.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <006c01cb4b95$658311d0$30893570$@net> Helps to post the year and model of your engine. I don't know, but I wouldn't. Get an alt with the correct mounting whether stock, correct interchange, or rebuilding the old alt. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dogermac Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 5:55 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] alternators I needed a new alternator and checked my 311 parts interchange and ordered the one for the Ford Courier. it arrived several hours later and the pivot bolt mounting bracket is different. The original one has an extended bolt boss that mounts to a boss on the block and an arm off the front of the engine. The Ford alt' is also a Mitsibishi and all else is the same except that the two pivot ears don't match up to the boss on the block. Is it OK to cut off the rear boss from the new alternator and mount it just by the front pivot bracket ear and the adjustment ear. Doesn't seem too solid. Perhaps I should just send the old alt' in for rebuild? Jim ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From rogerkerschhd at hotmail.com Fri Sep 3 13:08:41 2010 From: rogerkerschhd at hotmail.com (Roger Kersch) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 14:08:41 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Message-ID: http://xaehkoruybehilo.ru.gg From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Fri Sep 3 16:00:19 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 15:00:19 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] email from roger kersch [Roadster-No Subject]- DON'T OPEN - it has a virus Message-ID: From dave at ranteer.com Fri Sep 3 22:15:42 2010 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 23:15:42 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 hood prop rod In-Reply-To: <8CD19AA57FA556B-1AC-2674@Webmail-m111.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CD19AA57FA556B-1AC-2674@Webmail-m111.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <3FBD690FB1E24D63BFD9066F14C0A7BE@ranteer.local> hi, all. as I am working towards putting the car back together ( I received it in kit form), I realize that the prop rod is either in a box or awol. plus there is a definitive spot on the drivers side of the hood where it might hook, but it seems clearly on the drivers side fender where it looks like it should move about. and there appears no where on the drivers side fender where it might latch, and possibly two painted over screw holes on the passenger side hood where it might connect. thus my confusion. could anyone send me some pics of the prop rod and how it fits and works so I can hopefully solve this mystery? thanks! From escanlon at wa-net.com Sat Sep 4 00:37:45 2010 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 23:37:45 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 hood prop rod References: <8CD19AA57FA556B-1AC-2674@Webmail-m111.sysops.aol.com> <3FBD690FB1E24D63BFD9066F14C0A7BE@ranteer.local> Message-ID: The 67's had the prop rod to latch the hood up on the PASSENGER side of the vehicle. It is a simple double "Z" bend rod that swivels off the hood, and slides in a "J" hook gateway just below the fender lip. I'll see if I can forward you a pic directly as the list would snip it off. FWIW E > hi, all. > > as I am working towards putting the car back together ( I received it in > kit form), I realize that the prop rod is either in a box or awol. plus > there is a definitive spot on the drivers side of the hood where it might > hook, but it seems clearly on the drivers side fender where it looks like > it should move about. > > and there appears no where on the drivers side fender where it might > latch, and possibly two painted over screw holes on the passenger side > hood where it might connect. > > thus my confusion. > > could anyone send me some pics of the prop rod and how it fits and works > so I can hopefully solve this mystery? > > thanks! From wrenchorhammer at live.com Sat Sep 4 08:46:31 2010 From: wrenchorhammer at live.com (Jim In Virginia) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 10:46:31 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 hood prop rod In-Reply-To: References: <8CD19AA57FA556B-1AC-2674@Webmail-m111.sysops.aol.com>, <3FBD690FB1E24D63BFD9066F14C0A7BE@ranteer.local>, Message-ID: Yep, the early cars had the prop rod on the side where the driver sat (Japanese market at the time) while the later cars swapped over to "our" side. My 67 has a newer hood, so I had to build the little prop rod hood connection and screw it into the hood, and it still has the unused tab on the other side. Its a lot easier to build a hood tab than the sliding slot on the inside lip of the fender. I will send pics of my setup, as it seems to be exactly what you need also. Best Regards, Jim Chesapeake Va 67 pushrod 2L 5spd 65 parts car (almost gone, chopped up) 72 510 sportwagon project 96 Miata "M" daily driver 10 Ford F-250 last of the 6spd creeper gear sticks > From: escanlon at wa-net.com > To: dave at ranteer.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 23:37:45 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] early 67 hood prop rod > > The 67's had the prop rod to latch the hood up on the PASSENGER side of the > vehicle. > > It is a simple double "Z" bend rod that swivels off the hood, and slides in > a "J" hook gateway just below the fender lip. > > I'll see if I can forward you a pic directly as the list would snip it off. > > FWIW > E > > > > hi, all. > > > > as I am working towards putting the car back together ( I received it in > > kit form), I realize that the prop rod is either in a box or awol. plus > > there is a definitive spot on the drivers side of the hood where it might > > hook, but it seems clearly on the drivers side fender where it looks like > > it should move about. > > > > and there appears no where on the drivers side fender where it might > > latch, and possibly two painted over screw holes on the passenger side > > hood where it might connect. > > > > thus my confusion. > > > > could anyone send me some pics of the prop rod and how it fits and works > > so I can hopefully solve this mystery? > > > > thanks! > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/wrenchorhammer at live.co m From dave at eastcoastroadster.com Sat Sep 4 08:58:25 2010 From: dave at eastcoastroadster.com (dave) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 10:58:25 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Who's Dave, and is he here?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It's right outside in the driveway :) I sent it in a few years ago and then one day a box full of them showed up at the house. Photo credit goes to Mark Dent, still the best shot of that car. Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: Ken & Tammy Williams [mailto:wilhouse at charter.net] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 6:26 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Who's Dave, and is he here?? Hey, While I was away on vacation, somebody put a Rock Auto magnetic business card on my truck. It has a photo of Dave's roadster on it. Apparently, Dave used Rock Auto Parts for his restoration. Has anybody else seen this? Ken Williams '67 1600 From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sat Sep 4 11:56:13 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 10:56:13 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 hood prop rod In-Reply-To: References: <8CD19AA57FA556B-1AC-2674@Webmail-m111.sysops.aol.com>, <3FBD690FB1E24D63BFD9066F14C0A7BE@ranteer.local>, Message-ID: <002b01cb4c5a$77acebe0$6706c3a0$@net> I have a '66 with prop on passenger side (LHD car), but a later model hood (I think). Lemme know if you need more pics. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim In Virginia Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 7:47 AM To: escanlon at wa-net.com; dave at ranteer.com; Datsun Roadsters send mail Subject: Re: [Roadsters] early 67 hood prop rod Yep, the early cars had the prop rod on the side where the driver sat (Japanese market at the time) while the later cars swapped over to "our" side. My 67 has a newer hood, so I had to build the little prop rod hood connection and screw it into the hood, and it still has the unused tab on the other side. Its a lot easier to build a hood tab than the sliding slot on the inside lip of the fender. I will send pics of my setup, as it seems to be exactly what you need also. Best Regards, Jim Chesapeake Va 67 pushrod 2L 5spd 65 parts car (almost gone, chopped up) 72 510 sportwagon project 96 Miata "M" daily driver 10 Ford F-250 last of the 6spd creeper gear sticks > From: escanlon at wa-net.com > To: dave at ranteer.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 23:37:45 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] early 67 hood prop rod > > The 67's had the prop rod to latch the hood up on the PASSENGER side of the > vehicle. > > It is a simple double "Z" bend rod that swivels off the hood, and slides in > a "J" hook gateway just below the fender lip. > > I'll see if I can forward you a pic directly as the list would snip it off. > > FWIW > E > > > > hi, all. > > > > as I am working towards putting the car back together ( I received it in > > kit form), I realize that the prop rod is either in a box or awol. plus > > there is a definitive spot on the drivers side of the hood where it might > > hook, but it seems clearly on the drivers side fender where it looks like > > it should move about. > > > > and there appears no where on the drivers side fender where it might > > latch, and possibly two painted over screw holes on the passenger side > > hood where it might connect. > > > > thus my confusion. > > > > could anyone send me some pics of the prop rod and how it fits and works > > so I can hopefully solve this mystery? > > > > thanks! > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/wrenchorhammer at live.c o m ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From aultgc at att.net Sat Sep 4 12:48:06 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 13:48:06 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 hood prop rod References: <8CD19AA57FA556B-1AC-2674@Webmail-m111.sysops.aol.com> <3FBD690FB1E24D63BFD9066F14C0A7BE@ranteer.local> Message-ID: Dave, You didn't say what year your car is, and the prop rod design varied. The early (low-windshield) cars had the prop rod on the right side of the car. The '67-1/2s had the prop rod on the left side of the car. Both had prop rod guides welded to the undersides of the inner fenders, and a small bracketswith a single hole welded to the hood. When I had to replace the hood on my '66 1600/U20 in 1973 -- the result of a moment's inattention -- the replacement hood had the guide for the prop rod on the right side of the hood, so we cut it off, tossed it, and used the bracket from my old hood on the replacement hood. The holes where the spot-welds were drilled out remain. I can send pictures of both the '66 and the '67-1/2, if you like. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave" To: Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 11:15 PM Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 hood prop rod > hi, all. > > as I am working towards putting the car back together ( I received it in > kit form), I realize that the prop rod is either in a box or awol. plus > there is a definitive spot on the drivers side of the hood where it might > hook, but it seems clearly on the drivers side fender where it looks like > it should move about. > > and there appears no where on the drivers side fender where it might > latch, and possibly two painted over screw holes on the passenger side > hood where it might connect. > > thus my confusion. > > could anyone send me some pics of the prop rod and how it fits and works > so I can hopefully solve this mystery? > > thanks! ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From aultgc at att.net Sat Sep 4 12:54:25 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 13:54:25 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: early 67 hood prop rod Message-ID: <84D0CCDE1B50493EA53A9C10DB60A455@gaxp1> Dave, Correction: The guide for the late-model cars was on the left side of the hood. Check Item 130427547113 currently listed on eBay. It shows the hood bracket on a '68. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "dave" ; Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] early 67 hood prop rod > Dave, > > You didn't say what year your car is, and the prop rod design varied. > > The early (low-windshield) cars had the prop rod on the right side of the > car. The '67-1/2s had the prop rod on the left side of the car. Both had > prop rod guides welded to the undersides of the inner fenders, and a small > bracketswith a single hole welded to the hood. When I had to replace the > hood on my '66 1600/U20 in 1973 -- the result of a moment's inattention -- > the replacement hood had the guide for the prop rod on the right side of > the hood, so we cut it off, tossed it, and used the bracket from my old > hood on the replacement hood. The holes where the spot-welds were drilled > out remain. > > I can send pictures of both the '66 and the '67-1/2, if you like. > > Gary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dave" > To: > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 11:15 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 hood prop rod > > >> hi, all. >> >> as I am working towards putting the car back together ( I received it in >> kit form), I realize that the prop rod is either in a box or awol. plus >> there is a definitive spot on the drivers side of the hood where it might >> hook, but it seems clearly on the drivers side fender where it looks like >> it should move about. >> >> and there appears no where on the drivers side fender where it might >> latch, and possibly two painted over screw holes on the passenger side >> hood where it might connect. >> >> thus my confusion. >> >> could anyone send me some pics of the prop rod and how it fits and works >> so I can hopefully solve this mystery? >> >> thanks! ________________________________________ >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From wrenchorhammer at live.com Sat Sep 4 19:07:05 2010 From: wrenchorhammer at live.com (Jim In Virginia) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 21:07:05 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Blower motor and wiper motor available from the trusty 65...car is parted out and going to the recycle guy, finally Message-ID: For All, Was chopping up the parts car, finishing up today. I love the big metal cutting sawzall blade, the one they call "The Torch". Just took two of these 4 dollar blades to reduce the whole car to chunks one man can easily carry, except for the frame which was more easily done with the torch. I hate to use the (real) torch when I don't have to, the darn acetylene gas is very expensive. The frame was very rusty! If this car was put back on the road and went over a big bump, it would have likely broke in half at the front mounting points of the rear springs. The front frame where the firewall sits on some horsehair looking pads had big rust holes also. When I got the firewall hacked up, it was easy to flip the pieces around and look at the wiper motor and blower motor. PUt them both on my riding lawnmower battery and they work just fine. Hard to figure out all the wiper motor terminals, but looks like fast and slow and park mode all work. Blower motor just runs in fast, the resister for the speeds lives inside the heater core box. THe heater core is good also, I flushed a lot of rust and gunk out of it, put my thumb over the outlet to build some pressure inside, and it did not leak. I am keeping all these parts as spares for my 67, but if someone really needs one of these 3 parts (Heater core, which includes the box, the the blower motor resistor and wires, or the wiper motor assembly, but not the rods which I had to cut, or the blower motor/fan/duct) let me know. I would have to ask $25 plus $15 shipping for any of the 3. No guarantees other than the fact that they are working right now! Best Regards, Jim Chesapeake, Va From rksmith46 at hotmail.com Sat Sep 4 22:16:41 2010 From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 00:16:41 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Vibration In-Reply-To: <4C7E7424.4060405@oh.rr.com> References: <4C7E7424.4060405@oh.rr.com> Message-ID: hi mark, if you didnt notice a vibration before you changed the trans. mt., it seems likely that the stiffness of the polyurethane accounts for the vibration. the softer rubber mt. absorbed the vibration before( thats its job). i suspect that after running the car for a while, the mt. might get flexible enough that the vibration might stop or lessen. bob smith, ohio srl 311 > Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 11:41:24 -0400 > From: mantolik at oh.rr.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Vibration > > I had the engine trans out of my 70 SRL and noticed the trans mount > was in dire need of replacement. I used the Prothane mount as it seemed > the closest to the stock thickness. It was a fairly painless > swap....but now I have this vibration that starts to be noticeable at > about 40 MPH - it gets smoother as speed goes up but it is still > noticeable....does not change with the clutch in or the trans out of > gear and coasting. It is very apparent for in the 40-55 MPH range. My > first reaction was to replace the u-joints, absolutely no change. So I > am now wondering if anyone has a stock 5-speed trans mount they could > measure for thickness? Mine was so far gone I could not salvage the > pieces.....! Or could this be a drive shaft balance problem? From gboone70 at yahoo.com Sat Sep 4 22:53:05 2010 From: gboone70 at yahoo.com (Gary Boone) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 21:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Vibration In-Reply-To: References: <4C7E7424.4060405@oh.rr.com> Message-ID: <113437.16001.qm@web36306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I think Bob may be dead on. I installed urethane mounts on the motor mounts and the tranny mounts and it causes a significant transmission of engine vibration to the frame and it shakes the whole car quite a lot. I notice it a lot more at idle but can still feel it at speed. There might be some resonate vibrations that are getting transmitted at different speeds. Vibration due to imbalance always increases with rotating speed, so I think an out of balance drive shaft, even due to radial runout is not causing your vibration. Gary ----- Original Message ---- From: robert k. smith To: datsun guy ; roadster list Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 10:16:41 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Vibration hi mark, if you didnt notice a vibration before you changed the trans. mt., it seems likely that the stiffness of the polyurethane accounts for the vibration. the softer rubber mt. absorbed the vibration before( thats its job). i suspect that after running the car for a while, the mt. might get flexible enough that the vibration might stop or lessen. bob smith, ohio srl 311 > Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 11:41:24 -0400 > From: mantolik at oh.rr.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Vibration > > I had the engine trans out of my 70 SRL and noticed the trans mount > was in dire need of replacement. I used the Prothane mount as it seemed > the closest to the stock thickness. It was a fairly painless > swap....but now I have this vibration that starts to be noticeable at > about 40 MPH - it gets smoother as speed goes up but it is still > noticeable....does not change with the clutch in or the trans out of > gear and coasting. It is very apparent for in the 40-55 MPH range. My > first reaction was to replace the u-joints, absolutely no change. So I > am now wondering if anyone has a stock 5-speed trans mount they could > measure for thickness? Mine was so far gone I could not salvage the > pieces.....! Or could this be a drive shaft balance problem? ________________________________________ From mantolik at oh.rr.com Sun Sep 5 09:04:55 2010 From: mantolik at oh.rr.com (Mark) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 11:04:55 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Vibration In-Reply-To: <113437.16001.qm@web36306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4C7E7424.4060405@oh.rr.com> <113437.16001.qm@web36306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C83B197.7030801@oh.rr.com> Thanks to everyone that has responded to so far! Here is an update: I am positive that phasing is correct - though it was off some originally. It is a bit better - still noticeable in the 40-55 mph range. I have looked closely at the condition of all the components and feel everything is as it should be. I agree about the balance issue - it should keep getting worse as speed increases. Someone on the list volunteered to send me a used original mount that is serviceable. I will try it when it arrives this week. I also have urethane engine mounts on this car. Will let you all know after I try the OEM unit. I really want to stay with the urethane mount if possible - so if it is just mount related, I will most likely swap back and live with it... Mark -Ohio On 9/5/2010 12:53 AM, Gary Boone wrote: > I think Bob may be dead on. I installed urethane mounts on the motor mounts and > the tranny mounts and it causes a significant transmission of engine vibration > to the frame and it shakes the whole car quite a lot. I notice it a lot more at > idle but can still feel it at speed. There might be some resonate vibrations > that are getting transmitted at different speeds. Vibration due to imbalance > always increases with rotating speed, so I think an out of balance drive shaft, > even due to radial runout is not causing your vibration. > > Gary > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: robert k. smith > To: datsun guy; roadster list > > Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 10:16:41 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Vibration > > hi mark, if you didnt notice a vibration before you changed the trans. mt., > it seems likely > that the stiffness of the polyurethane accounts for the vibration. the softer > rubber mt. > absorbed the vibration before( thats its job). i suspect that after running > the car for a while, > the mt. might get flexible enough that the vibration might stop or lessen. > bob smith, ohio srl 311 > > >> Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 11:41:24 -0400 >> From: mantolik at oh.rr.com >> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Subject: [Roadsters] Vibration >> >> I had the engine trans out of my 70 SRL and noticed the trans mount >> was in dire need of replacement. I used the Prothane mount as it seemed >> the closest to the stock thickness. It was a fairly painless >> swap....but now I have this vibration that starts to be noticeable at >> about 40 MPH - it gets smoother as speed goes up but it is still >> noticeable....does not change with the clutch in or the trans out of >> gear and coasting. It is very apparent for in the 40-55 MPH range. My >> first reaction was to replace the u-joints, absolutely no change. So I >> am now wondering if anyone has a stock 5-speed trans mount they could >> measure for thickness? Mine was so far gone I could not salvage the >> pieces.....! Or could this be a drive shaft balance problem? > ________________________________________ From dansummers at comcast.net Sun Sep 5 18:27:18 2010 From: dansummers at comcast.net (dansummers at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 00:27:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] 68 2000 for sale In-Reply-To: <751150771.308887.1283732717129.JavaMail.root@sz0101a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1869018470.308920.1283732838770.JavaMail.root@sz0101a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Hi All I have a 68 2000 that I have had for several years and have not been able to find time or money to restore. I have decided it is time for it to go to someone that can do it right. I thought I would start with offering it up to the people on the list first. When I got it the previous owner told me that the brake master cylinder needed replacing and that was why he had parked it. I went through the start up procedure that I got from someone on the list and had the motor running but not very well. At that time I discovered it needed a new freeze plug in the intake manifold which I replaced. I then started to adjust the carbs but that is as far as I got. This is definitely a project car. It sat outside in the New Mexico sun for 8 years before I got it and I have had it for 5 years. The interior is a total wreck. the seats are intact but not in the best of shape. No top but what I believe is a good frame. I do not have a title but I can get you in touch with the previous owner and he should be able to get one. I am asking $500.00 If you are interested please contact me off list and I will be happy to send you pictures. My e-mail address is dansummers at comcast.net I also have: A set of mag wheels with tires that fit it. What I think is a complete wiring harness that I got from a car in the wrecking yard. An extra visor Some tail lights and reflectors A jack A luggage rack An additional set of gauges Thanks Dan From jpowellmft at yahoo.com Sun Sep 5 20:13:11 2010 From: jpowellmft at yahoo.com (Jim Powell) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 19:13:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Bob White In-Reply-To: <908035.32778.qm@web83810.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <908035.32778.qm@web83810.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <412445.51154.qm@web114215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> This is Jim Powell in Palm Desert, CA. I bought the 1970 Datsun Roadster from Bob last year and I am in the midst of fixing up a few things that needed to be addressed, but I am pleased and proud to have known Bob and his wife, Patrice. They are a wonderful couple and it is a pleasure to own this car and know a little history. God bless you, Patrice, and family - my thoughts and prayers are with you. ________________________________ From: Kerry Dehmel To: Datsun List Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 9:13:40 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Bob White For all those in the central California Area..... The roadster community has lost another member. Bob White passed away this morning after a long battle with heart and lung disease. He was a long time member from the Fresno area along with his wife Patrice. He drove a red 1970 until last year when he sold it. (At 75 years old it was to hard to get in and out of and maintain for him) He will be missed by family and friends here but no longer has to suffer his physical pain of just breathing. Kerry Dehmel Fresno, CA 1967.5 Datsun Roadster -- 1600 Blue 2006 Corvette Coupe-- Monterey red ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/jpowellmft at yahoo.com From vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com Sun Sep 5 21:15:56 2010 From: vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com (Vince Strazzabosco) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 20:15:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Vibration In-Reply-To: <4C83B197.7030801@oh.rr.com> Message-ID: <252734.56495.qm@web33503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> One more possibility.. ON my BMW 2002 I had a vibration I could feel from the back/center of the car. It wasn't in the steering. Ned Coonen and I checked the car over thoroughly and didn't find any loose wheel bearings, bent wheels, or loose driveshaft parts. Removing the driveshaft, I found that the rear u-joint didn't flex as well as it should. It would hesitate slightly in the center when flexed side to side. Rebuilding the driveshaft cured the bad vibes. Hope this helps, vince From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com Mon Sep 6 11:02:45 2010 From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 10:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] No Subject In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <296584.31929.qm@web53501.mail.re2.yahoo.com> This is the second time I've received this link to "medhealthx" . It certainly appears to be SPAM and that someone has stolen Peter's, and possibly other list members, email addresses. I'm not going to go there, and would advise others not to either. If this is someone's HBB, please advise. Thanks! Patti --- On Mon, 9/6/10, peter harrison wrote: From: peter harrison Subject: To: 3dtrishe at gmail.com, fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com, 9laser3 at bright.net, pjg2020 at netzero.com, pearlyqt at aol.com, penny at valleytravelgroup.com, pennyray at pacbell.net, sog891 at gmail.com, peter at tysonfirm.com, whoispg at aol.com Date: Monday, September 6, 2010, 2:54 AM http://www.rob7.medhealthx.com From lmflaming at comcast.net Mon Sep 6 17:31:43 2010 From: lmflaming at comcast.net (lmflaming at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 23:31:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] 60 roadster on Ebay Message-ID: <710385649.896007.1283815903590.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I'm just wondering what the opinions are about the 60 roadster that was bid up to $10,000.00 and didn't meet the sellers reserve. Was this car missing any of the original parts?B Larry From davesmbox at aol.com Mon Sep 6 20:54:24 2010 From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:54:24 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 60 roadster on Ebay In-Reply-To: <710385649.896007.1283815903590.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <710385649.896007.1283815903590.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <8CD1C4F1CE6D462-CC8-2FB40@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com> I think the problem is you are looking at a $50,000 restoration for a car not worth the $10,000 that it didn't sell for. Most people would rather dump their money into a Maserati Ghibli or a Pantera then dump $50,000 into a Datsun -----Original Message----- From: lmflaming at comcast.net To: Roadster List Sent: Mon, Sep 6, 2010 7:31 pm Subject: [Roadsters] 60 roadster on Ebay I'm just wondering what the opinions are about the 60 roadster that was bid up o $10,000.00 and didn't meet the sellers reserve. Was this car missing any of he original parts?B Larry _______________________________________ atsun-roadsters at autox.team.net onate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation $16.00 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/davesmbox at aol.com From SConway at fielders.com.au Mon Sep 6 21:24:00 2010 From: SConway at fielders.com.au (Sam Conway) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 12:54:00 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] 60 roadster on Ebay In-Reply-To: <8CD1C4F1CE6D462-CC8-2FB40@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com> References: <710385649.896007.1283815903590.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <8CD1C4F1CE6D462-CC8-2FB40@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <09E4074C0F830C458934327282278BF00530E0E5@EDWEXVS01.hills.hillsad.com> Please tell me your joking about the $50k to restore, Although if your a cheque book restorer it might cost that much. In reality I could restore that car in Aus for around the $8k - $10K mark at the very most. Regards Samuel Conway National Quality and Process Engineer -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of davesmbox at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, 7 September 2010 12:24 PM To: lmflaming at comcast.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 60 roadster on Ebay I think the problem is you are looking at a $50,000 restoration for a car not worth the $10,000 that it didn't sell for. Most people would rather dump their money into a Maserati Ghibli or a Pantera then dump $50,000 into a Datsun -----Original Message----- From: lmflaming at comcast.net To: Roadster List Sent: Mon, Sep 6, 2010 7:31 pm Subject: [Roadsters] 60 roadster on Ebay I'm just wondering what the opinions are about the 60 roadster that was bid up o $10,000.00 and didn't meet the sellers reserve. Was this car missing any of he original parts?B Larry _______________________________________ atsun-roadsters at autox.team.net onate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation $16.00 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/davesmbox at aol.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/sconway at fielders. com.au From tputland at charter.net Tue Sep 7 06:00:12 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 5:00:12 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Solex carbs Message-ID: <20100907080012.YNHQY.8446984.root@mp05> Now that I have a basic understanding of the SU carbs, let's add to my confusion: What size Solex Carb(s) will work on our Roadsters; both the 1600 & 2000? Does each size Solex Carb require a different intake manifold or is it a one size fits all as far as intakes go (I realize that the intake manifolds will be different sized between the 1600s & 2000s)? Are these manifolds available or have they passed into the unobtanium realm? Are the Solexs that fit the Datsun Roadster "exclusive" to the Datsun Roadster or do they work on other models as well? Thanks Tim From nmleeds at mindspring.com Tue Sep 7 11:08:22 2010 From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (nmleeds at mindspring.com) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:08:22 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Roadsters] Timing: I'm not that dumb (am I?) Message-ID: <6521001.1283879302886.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> All, I was messing with my timing a little bit and now I can't seem to get the car to start. I've used all my standard tricks: 1) cleaning the spark plugs, 2) rotating the distributor to visually confirm that at TDC the rotor is pointing at the number one plug, 3) confirming spark, 4) confirming fuel, 5) recharging the battery. And still, no start. I get a very occational detonation when I spin the engine but not enough to even get the engine to sputter over, even once. What am I missing? Does anyone have any tricks that I can try? I've tried with choke, without choke, with throttle and without (but I don't know which of these works best). For further background, the car was running rich before I diabled it. Nathaniel Leeds '69 2000 -> frustrating. From dave at ranteer.com Tue Sep 7 11:32:23 2010 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 12:32:23 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] [SPAM] Timing: I'm not that dumb (am I?) In-Reply-To: <6521001.1283879302886.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <6521001.1283879302886.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5BB69B00D2DD4E0BB10DCE69B724AE31@ranteer.local> Turn on the key and rotate the distributor until the #1 plug arcs to ground. Then it should start. Guessing at when the points will arc is too inaccurate. You can be off by 20+ degrees!!! This should get you running. > > What am I missing? Does anyone have any tricks that I can try? I've tried > with choke, without choke, with throttle and without (but I don't know > which of these works best). From pat at hornesystemstx.com Tue Sep 7 19:27:00 2010 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 20:27:00 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Timing: I'm not that dumb (am I?) In-Reply-To: <6521001.1283879302886.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <6521001.1283879302886.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4C86E664.4010302@hornesystemstx.com> Nathaniel, Did you pull the distributor out? If so, make sure that you are not 360 deg out, firing when the intake and exhaust valves are open. How about point gap? Is the points condenser connected? Did you disconnect the low voltage wires from the coil? If so, be sure the lead that goes to the points is connected to the minus terminal on the coil. Check the spark coming out of the coil to ground, it should be pretty strong. Since you have a '69, there is an extra wire from the ignition switch to the coil or ballast resistor. Make sure it is hooked up. Was the distributor the only thing you messed with? If these don't find the problem please let me know and I can walk you through some other tests. Peace, Pat Thusly spake nmleeds at mindspring.com, On 9/7/2010 12:08 PM: > All, > > I was messing with my timing a little bit and now I can't seem to get the car to start. I've used all my standard tricks: 1) cleaning the spark plugs, 2) rotating the distributor to visually confirm that at TDC the rotor is pointing at the number one plug, 3) confirming spark, 4) confirming fuel, 5) recharging the battery. And still, no start. I get a very occational detonation when I spin the engine but not enough to even get the engine to sputter over, even once. > > What am I missing? Does anyone have any tricks that I can try? I've tried with choke, without choke, with throttle and without (but I don't know which of these works best). > > For further background, the car was running rich before I diabled it. > > Nathaniel Leeds > '69 2000 -> frustrating. > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/pat at hornesystemstx.com > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From wrenchorhammer at live.com Tue Sep 7 15:06:13 2010 From: wrenchorhammer at live.com (Jim In Virginia) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 17:06:13 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Shout out to Marty, the guy who wants parts Message-ID: For All: Sorry for the bandwidth, I lost Marty's address. Marty: E Mail me, I have the parts all taken off. Best Regards, Jim From tputland at charter.net Tue Sep 7 14:53:22 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 13:53:22 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] body/tank pads Message-ID: <20100907165322.29BRP.5608633.root@mp20> I know this has been cussed and discussed but I cannot find what I saved regarding this topic, so.......... Now that my back is on the mend, I am going to replace my gas tank with a fresh one. What is the stuff called that people use for body pads and is it the same thing recommended for tank strap pads? Does some one have an online source? Thanks Tim From tputland at charter.net Wed Sep 8 05:58:26 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 4:58:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Body pads / tank strap pads Message-ID: <20100908075826.V23YC.10891870.root@mp19> I know this has been cussed and discussed but I cannot find the info I had saved regarding this topic, so.......... Now that my back is on the mend, I am going to replace my gas tank with a fresh one. What is the stuff called that people use for body pads--neoprene right? and is it the same thing recommended for tank strap pads? Does some one have an online source? Thanks Tim From graemes at internode.on.net Tue Sep 7 18:43:03 2010 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:13:03 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] Timing: I'm not that dumb (am I?) In-Reply-To: <6521001.1283879302886.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <6521001.1283879302886.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <6F269724552143E1BAF0B78C9E83D499@desktop> Sounds like the results of at least one stray Gamma ray ;) If you have removed and replaced the distributor and or drive gear, make sure that the distributor timing is correct at TDC for #1 ON COMPRESSION STROKE!!! You can check for spark at TDC but since the cam is 1/2 crank speed it may still be 180Deg out. Apart from that it sounds like Murphy has been helping you. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of nmleeds at mindspring.com Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 2:38 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Timing: I'm not that dumb (am I?) All, I was messing with my timing a little bit and now I can't seem to get the car to start. I've used all my standard tricks: 1) cleaning the spark plugs, 2) rotating the distributor to visually confirm that at TDC the rotor is pointing at the number one plug, 3) confirming spark, 4) confirming fuel, 5) recharging the battery. And still, no start. I get a very occational detonation when I spin the engine but not enough to even get the engine to sputter over, even once. What am I missing? Does anyone have any tricks that I can try? I've tried with choke, without choke, with throttle and without (but I don't know which of these works best). For further background, the car was running rich before I diabled it. Nathaniel Leeds '69 2000 -> frustrating. ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on. net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3120 - Release Date: 09/08/10 04:13:00 From graemes at internode.on.net Tue Sep 7 20:14:40 2010 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 11:44:40 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] Timing: I'm not that dumb (am I?) Message-ID: <49FB1B1AF73D4AE2811EA736CD185517@desktop> Sounds like the results of at least one stray Gamma ray ;) If you have removed and replaced the distributor and or drive gear, make sure that the distributor timing is correct at TDC for #1 ON COMPRESSION STROKE!!! You can check for spark at TDC but since the cam is 1/2 crank speed it may still be 180Deg out. Apart from that it sounds like Murphy has been helping you. "I was messing with my timing a little bit and now I can't seem to get the car to start. I've used all my standard tricks: 1) cleaning the spark plugs, 2) rotating the distributor to visually confirm that at TDC the rotor is pointing at the number one plug, 3) confirming spark, 4) confirming fuel, 5) recharging the battery. And still, no start. I get a very occational detonation when I spin the engine but not enough to even get the engine to sputter over, even once. What am I missing? Does anyone have any tricks that I can try? I've tried with choke, without choke, with throttle and without (but I don't know which of these works best). For further background, the car was running rich before I diabled it. Nathaniel Leeds '69 2000 -> frustrating." From tputland at charter.net Wed Sep 8 09:52:09 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 8:52:09 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] test? Message-ID: <20100908115209.Z9F7P.7943111.root@mp08> I have not been able to post for a couple days now........... From alvingogi at gmail.com Tue Sep 7 21:52:54 2010 From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 20:52:54 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] JCCS from Bay Area Message-ID: Hello all, We are driving the roadster down along with a G20 Anyone else want to caravan down? We are leaving San Jose(85/17) at 9am Saturday morning From 9laser3 at bright.net Wed Sep 8 12:30:50 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:30:50 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun camper for sale Message-ID: <001801cb4f83$f82e3900$e88aab00$@net> http://sandusky.craigslist.org/cto/1937441476.html Not mine, just spotted it while surfing. Paul Ohio From dave at ranteer.com Wed Sep 8 13:12:38 2010 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:12:38 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] [SPAM] Re: Timing: I'm not that dumb (am I?) In-Reply-To: <4C86E664.4010302@hornesystemstx.com> References: <6521001.1283879302886.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4C86E664.4010302@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: glad to know that. I've been running 360 degrees out for years. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Pat Horne" Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 8:27 PM To: ; Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Roadsters] Timing: I'm not that dumb (am I?) > Nathaniel, > > Did you pull the distributor out? If so, make sure that you are not 360 > deg out, firing when the intake and exhaust valves are open. From roadster at astound.net Wed Sep 8 13:31:32 2010 From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 12:31:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] SF Jimmy's Old Car Show in October 2010 Message-ID: <880153EE-9C67-47AC-8D40-21645BC3A302@astound.net> In San Francisco, Jimmy's 22nd Old Car Show and Picnic will be coming in October 2010, yea! It had been cancelled by the evil director of rec & parks dept, but Jimmy prevailed and got it going again. Over 500 old cars show up every year. http://www.jimmyspicnic.com/ For all those near San Francisco on October 16th, a Saturday, check it out at Golden Gate Park. Even better, bring your ride. BADROC will hopefully have a good showing there. Me and Annie will be there with our red 66 about midway thru the meadow. Cars begin showing up at 7 am, show ends at 4 pm. Bring food, as concessions vendors are banned this year. Fred Katz - So.SF BADROC From pat at hornesystemstx.com Wed Sep 8 13:31:55 2010 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 14:31:55 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] [SPAM] Re: Timing: I'm not that dumb (am I?) In-Reply-To: References: <6521001.1283879302886.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4C86E664.4010302@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: <4C87E4AB.8030400@hornesystemstx.com> Actually, I was thinking about 360 deg. out on the crank, which would be 180 out on the distributor. Clear as mud? Peace, Pat Thusly spake dave, On 9/8/2010 2:12 PM: > glad to know that. I've been running 360 degrees out for years. > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Pat Horne" > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 8:27 PM > To: ; > Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Roadsters] Timing: I'm not that dumb (am I?) > >> Nathaniel, >> >> Did you pull the distributor out? If so, make sure that you are not >> 360 deg out, firing when the intake and exhaust valves are open. > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/pat at hornesystemstx.com > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Sep 8 14:04:07 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 13:04:07 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] [SPAM] Re: Timing: I'm not that dumb (am I?) In-Reply-To: <4C87E4AB.8030400@hornesystemstx.com> References: <6521001.1283879302886.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4C86E664.4010302@hornesystemstx.com> <4C87E4AB.8030400@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: <002901cb4f90$ff518a90$fdf49fb0$@net> Hehehehehe.....nice recovery, Pat. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pat Horne Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:32 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] [SPAM] Re: Timing: I'm not that dumb (am I?) Actually, I was thinking about 360 deg. out on the crank, which would be 180 out on the distributor. Clear as mud? Peace, Pat Thusly spake dave, On 9/8/2010 2:12 PM: > glad to know that. I've been running 360 degrees out for years. > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Pat Horne" > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 8:27 PM > To: ; > Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Roadsters] Timing: I'm not that dumb (am I?) > >> Nathaniel, >> >> Did you pull the distributor out? If so, make sure that you are not >> 360 deg out, firing when the intake and exhaust valves are open. > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/pat at hornesystemstx.co m > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From nshimek at gmail.com Wed Sep 8 15:31:04 2010 From: nshimek at gmail.com (Nathan Shimek) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:31:04 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] SF Jimmy's Old Car Show in October 2010 In-Reply-To: <880153EE-9C67-47AC-8D40-21645BC3A302@astound.net> References: <880153EE-9C67-47AC-8D40-21645BC3A302@astound.net> Message-ID: Looks like I'll have to bring my 69 out as the 16th is my birthday. Nate On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Fred Katz wrote: > In San Francisco, Jimmy's 22nd Old Car Show and Picnic will be coming in > October 2010, yea! It had been cancelled by the evil director of rec & > parks > dept, but Jimmy prevailed and got it going again. Over 500 old cars show up > every year. > > http://www.jimmyspicnic.com/ > > For all those near San Francisco on October 16th, a Saturday, check it out > at > Golden Gate Park. Even better, bring your ride. BADROC will hopefully have > a > good showing there. Me and Annie will be there with our red 66 about midway > thru the meadow. Cars begin showing up at 7 am, show ends at 4 pm. Bring > food, > as concessions vendors are banned this year. > > Fred Katz - So.SF > BADROC > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/nshimek at gmail.com From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 8 16:53:04 2010 From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] SF Jimmy's Old Car Show in October 2010 In-Reply-To: <880153EE-9C67-47AC-8D40-21645BC3A302@astound.net> Message-ID: <390336.41802.qm@web81702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This is a really fun show to attend. Here are some older BADROC photos taken back in 2004 at Jimmy's Picnic. http://badroc.multiply.com/photos/album/26/Jimmys_Old_Car_Show_Picnic_-_SF Dan Zubkoff --- On Wed, 9/8/10, Fred Katz wrote: > From: Fred Katz > Date: Wednesday, September 8, 2010, 2:31 PM > In San Francisco, Jimmy's 22nd Old > Car Show and Picnic will be coming in > October 2010, yea! It had been cancelled by the evil > director of rec & parks > dept, but Jimmy prevailed and got it going again. Over 500 > old cars show up > every year. > > http://www.jimmyspicnic.com/ > > For all those near San Francisco on October 16th, a > Saturday, check it out at > Golden Gate Park. Even better, bring your ride. BADROC will > hopefully have a > good showing there. Me and Annie will be there with our red > 66 about midway > thru the meadow. Cars begin showing up at 7 am, show ends > at 4 pm. Bring food, > as concessions vendors are banned this year. > > Fred Katz - So.SF > BADROC > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/zubkoff at sbcglobal.net From mark at bradakis.com Wed Sep 8 21:37:12 2010 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 21:37:12 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Team.Net hiccups Message-ID: <20100909033712.E33C62E0B5@bradakis.com> Yes, the lists have been acting funny today. There was a loss of connectivity to the world for about 24 hours, so email was delayed and web pages were unavailable. I do apologize for the inconvenience. mjb. From dave at ranteer.com Thu Sep 9 20:36:02 2010 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 21:36:02 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] wiring - early 67 regulator In-Reply-To: References: <4C6C0258.30609@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <5E810561CB344EEDB1454C887E435DCF@ranteer.local> for whatever reason, I'm totally redoing all the wiring in the car - early 67 low windshield 1600 - the voltage regulator, according to the wiring diagram so generously provided by slowboy - thank you - the regulator has an additional wire. according to the diagram, there is black/white, white, yellow, white/black, and black. my regulator also has a white/red wire. what's up with that? what do I do with it? car runs fine without it, but of course very little of the electrics are hooked up anyway. thanks! From pat at hornesystemstx.com Thu Sep 9 21:04:57 2010 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 22:04:57 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] wiring - early 67 regulator In-Reply-To: <5E810561CB344EEDB1454C887E435DCF@ranteer.local> References: <4C6C0258.30609@socal.rr.com> <5E810561CB344EEDB1454C887E435DCF@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <4C89A059.10600@hornesystemstx.com> Dave, The only White/Red wire I see on the wiring diagrams is for the left rear turn signal. It is the same circuit as the left front turn signal, which shows to be Green/Red. Having said that, our cars have not always had the correct wire colors. If the factory ran short of the correct color wire they substituted whatever they had on hand. It may also be possible that a PO replaced the harness with a later one. Even if the harness was for a 69 or 70 Roadster, the wire for the side markers (which may come out in that area) is Green/White. I suggest that you just leave it disconnected and see what doesn't work. Wither that or you can check for voltage on the wire and see which fuse (if any) will kill it. If the wire doesn't have voltage on it and is not connected to ground you should be able to use a wire tracer to see where it goes. Good luck, and please let us know what you find. Peace, Pat Thusly spake dave, On 9/9/2010 9:36 PM: > for whatever reason, I'm totally redoing all the wiring in the car - > early 67 low windshield 1600 - > > the voltage regulator, according to the wiring diagram so generously > provided by slowboy - thank you - the regulator has an additional wire. > > according to the diagram, there is black/white, white, yellow, > white/black, and black. my regulator also has a white/red wire. > what's up with that? what do I do with it? car runs fine without it, > but of course very little of the electrics are hooked up anyway. > > thanks! ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/pat at hornesystemstx.com > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Thu Sep 9 23:10:07 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 22:10:07 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Hopefully Virus Free - But Genuine Message re Convertible Boots and Thread Inserts Message-ID: 1) More of a heads up - I have NOT used my convertible top for over 3 years - no need - California don't you know - but I had occasion to remove the boot the other day and noticed that various components of the actual top were slowly eroding my stayfast top. Not visible from the outside YET. So I patched all the bits BEFORE they migrated to the outside. It might be worthwhile to remove the boot to check on interior wear and patch it. 2) Part of an earlier discussion and please excuse me if you already know this) - re expanding holes in the sheet metal. One can purchase from Harbor Freight a 'rivetting' tool that one can use to put in reusable 'blind' threaded inserts/rivets. I had a problem with the "grille" that is in front of the windshield - the holes were so big that i had to use screws that 'visually' didn't fit. Using the 6/32 insert with stainless screws (polished - look like chrome) all is neat, secure and not likely to expand again. One can also get these inserts in steel as well as aluminum in 6/32 and 8/32. Berg Hardware in Pasadena and King Bolts in Covina FWIW Peter See you at JCCS??????????? From graemes at internode.on.net Thu Sep 9 23:48:53 2010 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:18:53 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] wiring - early 67 regulator In-Reply-To: <5E810561CB344EEDB1454C887E435DCF@ranteer.local> References: <4C6C0258.30609@socal.rr.com> <5E810561CB344EEDB1454C887E435DCF@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <8712A284E01A4D39BAD2B620ADD54E63@desktop> I'm guessing that you have a 6 pin connector for the Voltage Regulator, and the White/Red wire is the one in question that goes nowhere right? If you look at that same Schematic, you'll see that it is the "L" wire or Charge Lamp facility. The Roadster doesn't have a Lamp from Factory, it has the Ammeter. So, if you want, you can use it as a Charge Lamp or ignore it, your choice. "according to the diagram, there is black/white, white, yellow, white/black, and black. my regulator also has a white/red wire. what's up with that? what do I do with it? car runs fine without it, but of course very little of the electrics are hooked up anyway." From shas1983 at netzero.net Mon Sep 13 14:44:25 2010 From: shas1983 at netzero.net (shas1983 at netzero.net) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:44:25 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] Spark plug gap using MSD CDI Message-ID: <20100913.134425.6256.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> I just added an MSD 6A which definitely improved the spark output on my '69 2000. Does anyone know a preferrred plug gap to use? I am under the impression that with the signifcantly higher output I can widen the gap to help runability and keep a similar heat range. Just wondering if others have experience with this. Jon '69 2000 ____________________________________________________________ Mortgage Rates Hit 3.25% If you owe under $729k you probably qualify for Obama's Refi Program http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4c8e8d41a9c53b9204fst01duc From alvingogi at gmail.com Mon Sep 13 15:26:02 2010 From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 14:26:02 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] SF Jimmy's Old Car Show in October 2010 In-Reply-To: <390336.41802.qm@web81702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <880153EE-9C67-47AC-8D40-21645BC3A302@astound.net> <390336.41802.qm@web81702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Fred please post this on 311s.org if you haven't already! We plan on going On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Dan Zubkoff wrote: > This is a really fun show to attend. Here are some older BADROC photos > taken > back in 2004 at Jimmy's Picnic. > http://badroc.multiply.com/photos/album/26/Jimmys_Old_Car_Show_Picnic_-_SF > Dan Zubkoff > > --- On Wed, 9/8/10, Fred Katz wrote: > > > > From: Fred Katz > > > > Date: Wednesday, September 8, 2010, > 2:31 PM > > In San Francisco, Jimmy's 22nd Old > > Car Show and Picnic will be > coming in > > October 2010, yea! It had been cancelled by the evil > > director of > rec & parks > > dept, but Jimmy prevailed and got it going again. Over 500 > > old > cars show up > > every year. > > > > http://www.jimmyspicnic.com/ > > > > For all > those near San Francisco on October 16th, a > > Saturday, check it out at > > > Golden Gate Park. Even better, bring your ride. BADROC will > > hopefully have a > > good showing there. Me and Annie will be there with our red > > 66 about > midway > > thru the meadow. Cars begin showing up at 7 am, show ends > > at 4 pm. > Bring food, > > as concessions vendors are banned this year. > > > > Fred Katz - > So.SF > > BADROC > > ________________________________________ > > > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/zubkoff at sbcglobal.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/alvingogi at gmail.com From alvingogi at gmail.com Mon Sep 13 19:46:50 2010 From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 18:46:50 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] JCCS 2010 pictures Message-ID: CCS 2010 was incredible. I could not believe how many cars participated, and the # of spectators was impressive! I am doing a full write-up on zcarblog.com but in short: 860miles in 2 days, lots of J-tin, lots of sun, and lots of good times :D Full album: http://rides.webshots.com/album/578574482nzmimO We left San Jose at 8am and arrived in LA at 12:30pm for lunch. From Westwood we drove about 60miles to Rancho Cucamonga to visit a Z-shop called GTM. Drove back to the Queen Mary from dinner and drinks and spent the night on the ship. Cars were staging at ~8am and I could tell that this was going to be a huge show..."you're gonna need a bigger boat"! There were 19 roadsters and 61!!! 510s! Mazda and Toyota represented with some stunning cars from tasteful to straight wild and zany! Spectators were waiting almost 1hr in line! This kind of showing comforts me and reminds me that yes, even in this dark climate folks are still enjoying their hobbies and interested in Japanese Classic Cars! From ljordan704 at netscape.net Mon Sep 13 20:16:53 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 22:16:53 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] JCCS 2010 pictures In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CD21CA08043581-1028-6329@webmail-d062.sysops.aol.com> They better get more and faster ticket sellers next year or there won't be so many people. Aklso the traffic jam getting out of there was about 30 min also. Same thing, a couple of people taking the parking fee of $12..it was SLOW. Another complaint I heard, and shared, was that the music was loud over the speaker system. Otherwise the show was very beautiful and nicely laid out and everyone was enjoying the cars. Congrats to the promoters and staff. Linda -----Original Message----- From: alvin gogineni To: datsun-roadsters Sent: Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:46 pm Subject: [Roadsters] JCCS 2010 pictures CCS 2010 was incredible. I could not believe how many cars participated, and the # of spectators was impressive! I am doing a full write-up on zcarblog.com but in short: 860miles in 2 days, lots of J-tin, lots of sun, and lots of good times :D Full album: http://rides.webshots.com/album/578574482nzmimO We left San Jose at 8am and arrived in LA at 12:30pm for lunch. From Westwood we drove about 60miles to Rancho Cucamonga to visit a Z-shop called GTM. Drove back to the Queen Mary from dinner and drinks and spent the night on the ship. Cars were staging at ~8am and I could tell that this was going to be a huge show..."you're gonna need a bigger boat"! There were 19 roadsters and 61!!! 510s! Mazda and Toyota represented with some stunning cars from tasteful to straight wild and zany! Spectators were waiting almost 1hr in line! This kind of showing comforts me and reminds me that yes, even in this dark climate folks are still enjoying their hobbies and interested in Japanese Classic Cars! ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From alvingogi at gmail.com Mon Sep 13 20:26:46 2010 From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 19:26:46 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] JCCS write-up/pics Message-ID: full write-up on the show over at http://www.zcarblog.com/ enjoy! From barbowden at yahoo.ca Tue Sep 14 11:49:31 2010 From: barbowden at yahoo.ca (Barry Bowden) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Timing: I'm not that dumb (am I?) In-Reply-To: <49FB1B1AF73D4AE2811EA736CD185517@desktop> References: <49FB1B1AF73D4AE2811EA736CD185517@desktop> Message-ID: <447978.55807.qm@web53001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I spent a week a few years ago trying to get a 510 to fire and finally found the problem to be a cracked retaining spring on the distributor rotor. It would turn at low speed when cranking but stay stationary at higher crank speeds. You could pull rotor off and it looked fine since retaining clip was still there but had a fine crack in it relieving of its retaining strength. You might check for that. Barry Bowden ________________________________ From: Graeme To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, September 7, 2010 10:14:40 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Timing: I'm not that dumb (am I?) Sounds like the results of at least one stray Gamma ray ;) If you have removed and replaced the distributor and or drive gear, make sure that the distributor timing is correct at TDC for #1 ON COMPRESSION STROKE!!! You can check for spark at TDC but since the cam is 1/2 crank speed it may still be 180Deg out. Apart from that it sounds like Murphy has been helping you. "I was messing with my timing a little bit and now I can't seem to get the car to start. I've used all my standard tricks: 1) cleaning the spark plugs, 2) rotating the distributor to visually confirm that at TDC the rotor is pointing at the number one plug, 3) confirming spark, 4) confirming fuel, 5) recharging the battery. And still, no start. I get a very occational detonation when I spin the engine but not enough to even get the engine to sputter over, even once. What am I missing? Does anyone have any tricks that I can try? I've tried with choke, without choke, with throttle and without (but I don't know which of these works best). For further background, the car was running rich before I diabled it. Nathaniel Leeds '69 2000 -> frustrating." ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/barbowden at yahoo.ca From jake7140 at yahoo.com Tue Sep 14 12:15:25 2010 From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 11:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 2010 Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <697424.84355.qm@web37906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Some in-car vids I've thrown together (13MB and 27MB on a slow server) and a great pic of me giving my daughter a ride at lunch touring... http://jakenet.homeip.net/2010-elvf/20100912-KinkDoublePass.wmv http://jakenet.homeip.net/2010-elvf/20100912-KinkEarlyApex.wmv More will follow, but I really have to get back to the real world! Steve Steve's racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society www.elrss.com ________________________________ From alvingogi at gmail.com Tue Sep 14 15:59:25 2010 From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:59:25 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Laguna Seca 11/1 CHEAP! Message-ID: Track Day Fun! Come join us 11/1 with NCRC at Laguna Seca http://www.ncracing.org/events.php it's only $180!!! From alvingogi at gmail.com Tue Sep 14 17:54:41 2010 From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 16:54:41 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Canepa Design Tour/Drive 10/9!!! Message-ID: Mark your calendars for October 9, 2010! ZCarGarage and Z Owners of Northern California (ZONC) have arranged for a full tour of the amazing *Canepa Design Museum and Showroom* facility along with a beautiful drive through the Santa Cruz Mountains. The tour is impressive with a full look at how restorations are done on Porsche 959s to vintage race cars that you see at the major Historic Racing events. It is truly a candy store for automotive fans! details at http://www.zcarblog.com/ From ncoonen at fastbears.com Wed Sep 15 07:36:28 2010 From: ncoonen at fastbears.com (ncoonen at fastbears.com) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:36:28 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Body pads / tank strap pads In-Reply-To: <20100908075826.V23YC.10891870.root@mp19> References: <20100908075826.V23YC.10891870.root@mp19> Message-ID: <20100915093628.112750izxztsn8po@webmail.fastbears.com> Hi Tim, I missed this message when you originally sent it out. Did you get any replies? I am in the same situation as you - about to put a new/old tank into my '69 2000 and have none of the original rubber bits. My old tank had been remounted sometime ago and had no isolation between the tank and the frame and had been mounted with flimsy perforated steel strapping held on with sheet metal screws. A pretty scary set up! My plan is to mount the tank using some closed cell foam strip material I get at a big box lumber store that is intended for mounting pickup truck caps. It is said to be weatherproof and seems fairly substantial, but not as tough as neoprene. I'm not sure about neoprene near gasoline fumes. I also plan to use this on some decent tanking mounting straps I am making. ...ned. '69 Datsun 2000, '61 Corvair Lakewood, '74 BMW 2002tii Quoting Tim : > I know this has been cussed and discussed but I cannot find the info > I had saved > regarding this topic, so.......... > > Now that my back is on the mend, I am going to replace my gas tank > with a fresh > one. > > What is the stuff called that people use for body pads--neoprene > right? and is it the same thing recommended for tank strap pads? Does > some one have an online source? > > Thanks > > Tim > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ncoonen at fastbears.com From jake7140 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 15 17:16:21 2010 From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 2010 Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201215.82117.qm@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sorry, missed the picture link: http://dom87ss.smugmug.com/Cars/Road-America/Vintage/IMG5528-copy/1007138944_ finYj-L.jpg Steve Steve's racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society www.elrss.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 11:15:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Jacobson Subject: [Roadsters] 2010 Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Message-ID: <697424.84355.qm at web37906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Some in-car vids I've thrown together (13MB and 27MB on a slow server) and a great pic of me giving my daughter a ride at lunch touring... http://jakenet.homeip.net/2010-elvf/20100912-KinkDoublePass.wmv http://jakenet.homeip.net/2010-elvf/20100912-KinkEarlyApex.wmv From aultgc at att.net Wed Sep 15 20:44:48 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 21:44:48 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Body pads / tank strap pads References: <20100908075826.V23YC.10891870.root@mp19> <20100915093628.112750izxztsn8po@webmail.fastbears.com> Message-ID: <11B95A2A4D364D71ABE729A122C1BBF0@gaxp1> Ned, There better not be any gas fumes around the tank straps. I recommend you find some 1'16-inches think hi-durometer (low compressibility) neoprene, which I know is non-hygroscopic. A thicker version of that material is what I replaced the jute pads with which go between the body and frame when we refinsihed my '66. I wish I could remember where I bought it, but, as I recall, it wasn't hard to find. If you have trouble, I think I know where to find it. Let me know if you want me to look. Cheap, too. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Tim" ; Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Body pads / tank strap pads > Hi Tim, > > I missed this message when you originally sent it out. Did you get any > replies? I am in the same situation as you - about to put a new/old tank > into my '69 2000 and have none of the original rubber bits. My old tank > had been remounted sometime ago and had no isolation between the tank and > the frame and had been mounted with flimsy perforated steel strapping held > on with sheet metal screws. A pretty scary set up! > > My plan is to mount the tank using some closed cell foam strip material I > get at a big box lumber store that is intended for mounting pickup truck > caps. It is said to be weatherproof and seems fairly substantial, but not > as tough as neoprene. I'm not sure about neoprene near gasoline fumes. I > also plan to use this on some decent tanking mounting straps I am making. > > ...ned. > '69 Datsun 2000, '61 Corvair Lakewood, '74 BMW 2002tii > > Quoting Tim : > >> I know this has been cussed and discussed but I cannot find the info >> I had saved >> regarding this topic, so.......... >> >> Now that my back is on the mend, I am going to replace my gas tank >> with a fresh >> one. >> >> What is the stuff called that people use for body pads--neoprene >> right? and is it the same thing recommended for tank strap pads? Does >> some one have an online source? >> >> Thanks >> >> Tim >> ________________________________________ >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ncoonen at fastbears.com > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From dato1500 at hotmail.com Thu Sep 16 06:25:14 2010 From: dato1500 at hotmail.com (Peter Jones) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:25:14 +0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Hazard flasher switch Message-ID: Hello all roadster fans, I am on the chase for a hazard flasher switch again from the radio console out of a 68 high screen car. It is a 5 green wire version not the 9 wire version which has red/white and red/yellow wires attached. I need this part to finish the wiring on my roadster which has been under construction for 3 years and 2 months. If any one has one out there and would like to send it to australia and receive funds via paypal for the item send me a email off list and let me know. This is the only part which has stands between me starting the car and just looking at it wanting to drive it. cheers Peter j From egustavson at bigpond.com Thu Sep 16 15:49:37 2010 From: egustavson at bigpond.com (egustavson) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:49:37 +1000 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Parts in Northridge is open ! Message-ID: <20100916214938.IGUU8.213.root@nschwwebs05p> Hi, I've read recently on Google Maps that this business is permanently closed. I've been there today and bought a bunch of parts from Dean before I return to Australia next week. This is my fourth visit over several years, to pick up parts for both my Canada and Oz cars, and this time there is even more stuff on the shelves. You can't even see the counter..... So, there seems to have been some mistake made, I think. best regards, Eric in Townsville SP311 06003 RHD '70 1600 SRL311 00183 LHD '67 2000 From ljordan704 at netscape.net Thu Sep 16 18:50:12 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:50:12 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Parts in Northridge is open ! In-Reply-To: <20100916214938.IGUU8.213.root@nschwwebs05p> References: <20100916214938.IGUU8.213.root@nschwwebs05p> Message-ID: <8CD24196B85A279-1184-4DE5@webmail-m064.sysops.aol.com> I never heard it was closed. Although if you just drive by, Dean might not be there, so you might want to call. Linda -----Original Message----- From: egustavson To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, Sep 16, 2010 2:49 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Parts in Northridge is open ! Hi, I've read recently on Google Maps that this business is permanently closed. I've been there today and bought a bunch of parts from Dean before I return to Australia next week. This is my fourth visit over several years, to pick up parts for both my Canada and Oz cars, and this time there is even more stuff on the shelves. You can't even see the counter..... So, there seems to have been some mistake made, I think. best regards, Eric in Townsville SP311 06003 RHD '70 1600 SRL311 00183 LHD '67 2000 ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From RWM at RWMann.com Thu Sep 16 21:24:42 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 23:24:42 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Parts in Northridge is open ! In-Reply-To: <20100916214938.IGUU8.213.root@nschwwebs05p> References: <20100916214938.IGUU8.213.root@nschwwebs05p> Message-ID: <4C92DF7A.3070701@RWMann.com> Sounds like competitive mischief... egustavson wrote: > Hi, > > I've read recently on Google Maps that this business is permanently closed. I've been there today and bought a bunch of parts from Dean before I return to Australia next week. This is my fourth visit over several years, to pick up parts for both my Canada and Oz cars, and this time there is even more stuff on the shelves. You can't even see the counter..... > > So, there seems to have been some mistake made, I think. From ljordan704 at netscape.net Thu Sep 16 22:27:34 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:27:34 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Parts in Northridge is open ! In-Reply-To: <4C92DF7A.3070701@RWMann.com> References: <20100916214938.IGUU8.213.root@nschwwebs05p> <4C92DF7A.3070701@RWMann.com> Message-ID: <8CD2437C95D2A4C-1188-7BEC@webmail-m004.sysops.aol.com> I'm not shocked. LOL Linda -----Original Message----- From: RWM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, Sep 16, 2010 8:24 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun Parts in Northridge is open ! Sounds like competitive mischief... egustavson wrote: > Hi, > > I've read recently on Google Maps that this business is permanently closed. I've been there today and bought a bunch of parts from Dean before I return to Australia next week. This is my fourth visit over several years, to pick up parts for both my Canada and Oz cars, and this time there is even more stuff on the shelves. You can't even see the counter..... > > So, there seems to have been some mistake made, I think. ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.net From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Fri Sep 17 00:43:10 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 23:43:10 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Parts in Northridge is open ! In-Reply-To: <20100916214938.IGUU8.213.root@nschwwebs05p> References: <20100916214938.IGUU8.213.root@nschwwebs05p> Message-ID: "The rumors of the demise of Datsunparts has been greatly exaggerated" to paraphrase the immortal Samuel Clemens. From datsunpartsdotcom at yahoo.com Fri Sep 17 09:42:09 2010 From: datsunpartsdotcom at yahoo.com (datsun parts.com) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Parts in Northridge is open ! In-Reply-To: <4C92DF7A.3070701@RWMann.com> Message-ID: <135183.74238.qm@web36507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, the children are at play again....what else could they possibly do with their time.? LOL Dean --- On Thu, 9/16/10, RWM wrote: From: RWM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun Parts in Northridge is open ! To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" Date: Thursday, September 16, 2010, 8:24 PM Sounds like competitive mischief... egustavson wrote: > Hi, > > I've read recently on Google Maps that this business is permanently closed. I've been there today and bought a bunch of parts from Dean before I return to Australia next week. This is my fourth visit over several years, to pick up parts for both my Canada and Oz cars, and this time there is even more stuff on the shelves. You can't even see the counter..... > > So, there seems to have been some mistake made, I think. ________________________________________ From antonywardle at gmail.com Fri Sep 17 17:20:48 2010 From: antonywardle at gmail.com (antony wardle) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 09:20:48 +1000 Subject: [Roadsters] Body pads / tank strap pads In-Reply-To: <11B95A2A4D364D71ABE729A122C1BBF0@gaxp1> References: <20100908075826.V23YC.10891870.root@mp19> <20100915093628.112750izxztsn8po@webmail.fastbears.com> <11B95A2A4D364D71ABE729A122C1BBF0@gaxp1> Message-ID: FWIW, i just cut up some of that foam stuff you sleep on when you go camping. I think that it is there mostly to stop the tank rattling about. Also, don't forget to check the wiki about changing the tank holding strap postions. It moves the weight from the boot/trunk to the chassis. cheers kiwi From dave at eastcoastroadster.com Fri Sep 17 18:12:56 2010 From: dave at eastcoastroadster.com (dave) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:12:56 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Parts in Northridge is open ! In-Reply-To: <135183.74238.qm@web36507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <296C26CCA9FF4B10B74A89758B42C2B5@delled48909442> I can personally attest to Dean still being in business, he called me at Watkins Glen, where he had better show up next year!! Those damn vendors :) :) :) Oh, wait, I'm a vendor, never mind, great bunch of guys. Dave Brisco East Coast Roadster -----Original Message----- From: datsun parts.com [mailto:datsunpartsdotcom at yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:42 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; RWM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun Parts in Northridge is open ! Yes, the children are at play again....what else could they possibly do with their time.? LOL Dean --- On Thu, 9/16/10, RWM wrote: From: RWM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun Parts in Northridge is open ! To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" Date: Thursday, September 16, 2010, 8:24 PM Sounds like competitive mischief... egustavson wrote: > Hi, > > I've read recently on Google Maps that this business is permanently closed. I've been there today and bought a bunch of parts from Dean before I return to Australia next week. This is my fourth visit over several years, to pick up parts for both my Canada and Oz cars, and this time there is even more stuff on the shelves. You can't even see the counter..... > > So, there seems to have been some mistake made, I think. ________________________________________ From escarcega at cox.net Sun Sep 19 12:47:16 2010 From: escarcega at cox.net (Marty Escarcega) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 11:47:16 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for stock 1600 wheels & Weather strip profiles Message-ID: <002f01cb582b$14c05c60$3e411520$@net> I am in Mesa, AZ and am looking for a set of good stock steel wheels for a '67 1600 Roadster. I have a pair of 1600's and a pair of 2000's. The hub cap clips are not necessary as I am hoping to find a nice set of wire wheel covers. Anyone ever done this and can direct me to a decent set? Also, is there anywhere that has a profile of the weather stripping for the Datsun Roadsters? There is a nice local Bod/paint supply that carries and can get Auveco moulding. I was hoping if I can get a profile, I might get a close match. Spending $1k for the set is not in the cards for a daily driver. Suggestions from those that made do would be appreciated! J Thanks Marty & Kelsey Mesa, AZ From escarcega at cox.net Sun Sep 19 13:07:14 2010 From: escarcega at cox.net (Marty Escarcega) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 12:07:14 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Filler neck for 1600 Message-ID: <003c01cb582d$dedeff40$9c9cfdc0$@net> Ok, I also need the water filler neck/thermostat housing OR a source for the radiator hose inline filler neck? Any ideas? Thanks Marty & Kelsey From eddietude at socal.rr.com Sun Sep 19 13:07:56 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 12:07:56 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for stock 1600 wheels & Weather strip profiles In-Reply-To: <002f01cb582b$14c05c60$3e411520$@net> References: <002f01cb582b$14c05c60$3e411520$@net> Message-ID: <4C965F8C.8080302@socal.rr.com> I was of the thought that 1K for the rubber was high too... Until I looked at everything in there. It's a BOATLOAD of stuff, some of which you cannot get anywhere else. Most of the cars have bad rubber all around. If it's bad in one spot, it's likley bad in others... Areas like the small triangular window rubbers you won't find anywhere else. Sure, the door window channel rubber and the edge moulding is readily available, as are the grommets, etc, but honestly, by the time you "piecemeal" it all together, you'd be better off buying a set for the 1K and be done with it. Just my 2 cents, which isn't even worth that. Eddie Marty Escarcega wrote: > I am in Mesa, AZ and am looking for a set of good stock steel wheels for a > '67 1600 Roadster. I have a pair of 1600's and a pair of 2000's. The hub cap > clips are not necessary as I am hoping to find a nice set of wire wheel > covers. > > Anyone ever done this and can direct me to a decent set? > > > > Also, is there anywhere that has a profile of the weather stripping for the > Datsun Roadsters? There is a nice local Bod/paint supply that carries and > can get Auveco moulding. I was hoping if I can get a profile, I might get a > close match. Spending $1k for the set is not in the cards for a daily > driver. Suggestions from those that made do would be appreciated! J > > > > Thanks > Marty & Kelsey > > Mesa, AZ > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From joedatsun at att.net Sun Sep 19 13:45:24 2010 From: joedatsun at att.net (Brian Parks) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 14:45:24 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for stock 1600 wheels & Weather strip profiles In-Reply-To: <002f01cb582b$14c05c60$3e411520$@net> References: <002f01cb582b$14c05c60$3e411520$@net> Message-ID: <51F2C2F3-6CB2-4273-9788-7FBCC240A9D5@att.net> stick with the Datsun vendors. Like Eddie said by the time you do all the work to find a near match you would be better off buying the right part. You don't have to buy it all at once. i did mine a little bit at a time. Brian 67 1/2 1600 On Sep 19, 2010, at 1:47 PM, Marty Escarcega wrote: > I am in Mesa, AZ and am looking for a set of good stock steel wheels for a > '67 1600 Roadster. I have a pair of 1600's and a pair of 2000's. The hub cap > clips are not necessary as I am hoping to find a nice set of wire wheel > covers. > > Anyone ever done this and can direct me to a decent set? > > > > Also, is there anywhere that has a profile of the weather stripping for the > Datsun Roadsters? There is a nice local Bod/paint supply that carries and > can get Auveco moulding. I was hoping if I can get a profile, I might get a > close match. Spending $1k for the set is not in the cards for a daily > driver. Suggestions from those that made do would be appreciated! J > > > > Thanks > Marty & Kelsey > > Mesa, AZ > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/joedatsun at att.net From escarcega at cox.net Sun Sep 19 13:54:44 2010 From: escarcega at cox.net (Marty Escarcega) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 12:54:44 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for stock 1600 wheels & Weather strip profiles In-Reply-To: <51F2C2F3-6CB2-4273-9788-7FBCC240A9D5@att.net> References: <002f01cb582b$14c05c60$3e411520$@net> <51F2C2F3-6CB2-4273-9788-7FBCC240A9D5@att.net> Message-ID: <004d01cb5834$8203ec70$860bc550$@net> Thanks, URL's for the vendors? Marty -----Original Message----- From: Brian Parks [mailto:joedatsun at att.net] Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 12:45 PM To: Marty Escarcega Cc: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Looking for stock 1600 wheels & Weather strip profiles stick with the Datsun vendors. Like Eddie said by the time you do all the work to find a near match you would be better off buying the right part. You don't have to buy it all at once. i did mine a little bit at a time. Brian 67 1/2 1600 On Sep 19, 2010, at 1:47 PM, Marty Escarcega wrote: > I am in Mesa, AZ and am looking for a set of good stock steel wheels for a > '67 1600 Roadster. I have a pair of 1600's and a pair of 2000's. The hub cap > clips are not necessary as I am hoping to find a nice set of wire wheel > covers. > > Anyone ever done this and can direct me to a decent set? > > > > Also, is there anywhere that has a profile of the weather stripping for the > Datsun Roadsters? There is a nice local Bod/paint supply that carries and > can get Auveco moulding. I was hoping if I can get a profile, I might get a > close match. Spending $1k for the set is not in the cards for a daily > driver. Suggestions from those that made do would be appreciated! J > > > > Thanks > Marty & Kelsey > > Mesa, AZ > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/joedatsun at att.net From escarcega at cox.net Sun Sep 19 13:55:20 2010 From: escarcega at cox.net (Marty Escarcega) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 12:55:20 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for stock 1600 wheels & Weather strip profiles In-Reply-To: <4C965F8C.8080302@socal.rr.com> References: <002f01cb582b$14c05c60$3e411520$@net> <4C965F8C.8080302@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <004e01cb5834$9740c860$c5c25920$@net> Ok, who has the magical $1k kit? I'd like to see it. Much appreciated. -----Original Message----- From: Eddie [mailto:eddietude at socal.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 12:08 PM To: Marty Escarcega Cc: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Looking for stock 1600 wheels & Weather strip profiles I was of the thought that 1K for the rubber was high too... Until I looked at everything in there. It's a BOATLOAD of stuff, some of which you cannot get anywhere else. Most of the cars have bad rubber all around. If it's bad in one spot, it's likley bad in others... Areas like the small triangular window rubbers you won't find anywhere else. Sure, the door window channel rubber and the edge moulding is readily available, as are the grommets, etc, but honestly, by the time you "piecemeal" it all together, you'd be better off buying a set for the 1K and be done with it. Just my 2 cents, which isn't even worth that. Eddie Marty Escarcega wrote: > I am in Mesa, AZ and am looking for a set of good stock steel wheels for a > '67 1600 Roadster. I have a pair of 1600's and a pair of 2000's. The hub cap > clips are not necessary as I am hoping to find a nice set of wire wheel > covers. > > Anyone ever done this and can direct me to a decent set? > > > > Also, is there anywhere that has a profile of the weather stripping for the > Datsun Roadsters? There is a nice local Bod/paint supply that carries and > can get Auveco moulding. I was hoping if I can get a profile, I might get a > close match. Spending $1k for the set is not in the cards for a daily > driver. Suggestions from those that made do would be appreciated! J > > > > Thanks > Marty & Kelsey > > Mesa, AZ > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.co m From joedatsun at att.net Sun Sep 19 13:59:26 2010 From: joedatsun at att.net (Brian Parks) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 14:59:26 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for stock 1600 wheels & Weather strip profiles In-Reply-To: <004d01cb5834$8203ec70$860bc550$@net> References: <002f01cb582b$14c05c60$3e411520$@net> <51F2C2F3-6CB2-4273-9788-7FBCC240A9D5@att.net> <004d01cb5834$8203ec70$860bc550$@net> Message-ID: go to Datsun.org and you will find all group of vendors under "resources". http://datsun.org/roadster/resources/parts.html On Sep 19, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Marty Escarcega wrote: > Thanks, URL's for the vendors? > Marty > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Parks [mailto:joedatsun at att.net] > Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 12:45 PM > To: Marty Escarcega > Cc: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Looking for stock 1600 wheels & Weather strip > profiles > > stick with the Datsun vendors. Like Eddie said by the time you do all the > work to find a near match you would be better off buying the right part. You > don't have to buy it all at once. i did mine a little bit at a time. > > Brian > 67 1/2 1600 > > > On Sep 19, 2010, at 1:47 PM, Marty Escarcega wrote: > >> I am in Mesa, AZ and am looking for a set of good stock steel wheels for a >> '67 1600 Roadster. I have a pair of 1600's and a pair of 2000's. The hub > cap >> clips are not necessary as I am hoping to find a nice set of wire wheel >> covers. >> >> Anyone ever done this and can direct me to a decent set? >> >> >> >> Also, is there anywhere that has a profile of the weather stripping for > the >> Datsun Roadsters? There is a nice local Bod/paint supply that carries and >> can get Auveco moulding. I was hoping if I can get a profile, I might get > a >> close match. Spending $1k for the set is not in the cards for a daily >> driver. Suggestions from those that made do would be appreciated! J >> >> >> >> Thanks >> Marty & Kelsey >> >> Mesa, AZ >> ________________________________________ >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/joedatsun at att.net From aultgc at att.net Sun Sep 19 14:59:31 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 15:59:31 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for stock 1600 wheels & Weather strip profiles References: <002f01cb582b$14c05c60$3e411520$@net> Message-ID: <8586C0CA6A514818919E8CD1301E2A8E@gaxp1> Marty, The Nissan parts manual shows two different wheels for the later cars (1600s with engine numbers >40,000 and all 2000s). The optional wheel is listed as 14 x 4-1/2, but I thought that is the same size as the earlier 1600 wheels. What are the differences between your two pairs of wheels. The stock tire size was 5.60 x 14, with an option for 6.45 x 14 on the 2000. The 6.45 tire would have fit on the 4-1/2 wheels. I have a two-bolt 1600 water outlet housing/water outlet, but not the top, onto which the cap screws. "Two-bolt" means two through-bolts with two smaller holes in two "ears", through which cap screws help secure the top to the housing. Photo attached (upside down). If it is what you need, you can have it for the shipping. Some 1600 heads had three-bolt mounting, which means three through-bolts only. I don't remember which housing went with early heads or late heads. If you are serious about restoring the car properly, stick with factory or factory-replica rubber. Things fit better, the trunk closes better, and the vent windows open and close easier. You will get this message twice: Once to you lony with the h=photo (attachments will not go through the autox.team.net server), and once because I wanted to post my response to the List, to see what others may be able to contribute to the wheel size issue. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Escarcega" To: Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 1:47 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for stock 1600 wheels & Weather strip profiles >I am in Mesa, AZ and am looking for a set of good stock steel wheels for a > '67 1600 Roadster. I have a pair of 1600's and a pair of 2000's. The hub > cap > clips are not necessary as I am hoping to find a nice set of wire wheel > covers. > > Anyone ever done this and can direct me to a decent set? > > > > Also, is there anywhere that has a profile of the weather stripping for > the > Datsun Roadsters? There is a nice local Bod/paint supply that carries and > can get Auveco moulding. I was hoping if I can get a profile, I might get > a > close match. Spending $1k for the set is not in the cards for a daily > driver. Suggestions from those that made do would be appreciated! J > > > > Thanks > Marty & Kelsey > > Mesa, AZ > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sun Sep 19 17:39:40 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 16:39:40 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for stock 1600 wheels & Weather strip profiles In-Reply-To: <004d01cb5834$8203ec70$860bc550$@net> References: <002f01cb582b$14c05c60$3e411520$@net> <51F2C2F3-6CB2-4273-9788-7FBCC240A9D5@att.net> <004d01cb5834$8203ec70$860bc550$@net> Message-ID: <003001cb5853$ee439f10$cacadd30$@net> You're kidding. You have multiple roadsters and don't know the vendors? The kit Eddie is referring to: Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Marty Escarcega Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 12:55 PM To: 'Brian Parks' Cc: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Looking for stock 1600 wheels & Weather strip profiles Thanks, URL's for the vendors? Marty peters914 at comcast.net From escanlon at wa-net.com Sun Sep 19 14:43:01 2010 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 13:43:01 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for stock 1600 wheels & Weather strip profiles References: <002f01cb582b$14c05c60$3e411520$@net><4C965F8C.8080302@socal.rr.com> <004e01cb5834$9740c860$c5c25920$@net> Message-ID: Check out Dean's site at http://www.datsunparts.com/ Specifically: http://www.datsunparts.com/Weatherstrip-Kits-and-Packages Then check out the description of what's included in the packages. Although you can source the door weatherstripping from other places, (JCWhitney, McMaster Carr, Graingers, come to mind right away), it's the OTHER pieces that you will not find READILY that will eat up your time and effort. By the time you find and pay for the items AND SHIPPING from half a dozen other places you'll have spent way more than the full kit costs.... even with parts / items that you don't feel you need right now. I once did the math, and there is a small savings from buying the whole kit than buying it piece by piece, not much, but.... Add to that that some of the items you will WANT are literally only available from the Roadster Vendors; Deans, Datsun Parts: http://www.datsunparts.com/ Rallye: http://www.datsunroadster.com/ Gerardo: http://www.fairladyparts.com/ Russ: http://www.sportsimports.ca/ Les: http://www.classicdatsun.com/ It's your time and money, so spend it as YOU see fit. FWIW E > Ok, who has the magical $1k kit? I'd like to see it. > Much appreciated. From joedatsun at att.net Sun Sep 19 19:53:09 2010 From: joedatsun at att.net (Brian Parks) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:53:09 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for stock 1600 wheels & Weather strip profiles In-Reply-To: <003001cb5853$ee439f10$cacadd30$@net> References: <002f01cb582b$14c05c60$3e411520$@net> <51F2C2F3-6CB2-4273-9788-7FBCC240A9D5@att.net> <004d01cb5834$8203ec70$860bc550$@net> <003001cb5853$ee439f10$cacadd30$@net> Message-ID: <1F83E07B-56C2-4541-BA17-54DD18AD44BB@att.net> i think he was referring to 2 1600 wheels and 2 2000 wheels. not 2 of each car. On Sep 19, 2010, at 6:39 PM, Pete Peters wrote: > You're kidding. You have multiple roadsters and don't know the vendors? > > > > The kit Eddie is referring to: > > > > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Marty > Escarcega > Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 12:55 PM > To: 'Brian Parks' > Cc: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Looking for stock 1600 wheels & Weather strip > profiles > > Thanks, URL's for the vendors? > Marty > peters914 at comcast.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/joedatsun at att.net From lmflaming at comcast.net Sun Sep 19 21:35:38 2010 From: lmflaming at comcast.net (lmflaming at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 03:35:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 roadster Message-ID: <1803196563.453676.1284953738525.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Does anyone have any idea what the count may be of how many 1960 1200 roadsters still exist? Larry From lgiel at yahoo.com Mon Sep 20 08:25:57 2010 From: lgiel at yahoo.com (larry gielenfeldt) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 07:25:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 1969 datsun 2000 roadster Message-ID: <383010.25568.qm@web114501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> All Wish to sell this car, I have owned it since 1978. Non frame off restoration and engine rebuild five years ago Has always lived in my garage Many extra parts Two extra sets of wheels and tires Hard top, too If interested here is my email Larry Gielenfeldt Tracy, Ca lgiel at yahoo.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name of Picture 032.jpg] From dogermac at aol.com Mon Sep 20 10:21:02 2010 From: dogermac at aol.com (Dogermac) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:21:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Message-ID: <8CD26F6F3CC6A5B-1704-E33@webmail-d010.sysops.aol.com> Good morning Just got off line w/Jaeger at New Datsun Parts and they only have one idler box in stock and it's the early model not the later model that I need. Do any of you have a source for and idler box for a 1970 SRL Jim Mackey Sarasota From markmussari at gmail.com Mon Sep 20 10:45:56 2010 From: markmussari at gmail.com (Mark Mussari) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 09:45:56 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Spotted Message-ID: Yesterday in Carson, CA on Carson Street heading West at approx 9:30 am. I wasn't in my roadster, but was amazed to see a cherry light blue metallic 1600. Best I've ever seen, down to the last detail. I wouldn't have posted but there was also a license plate holder that said Los Angeles Clippers Fan... which I am also. Couldn't believe there's another roadster & clippers fan in the area! Anyone on the list? From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Mon Sep 20 11:49:34 2010 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:49:34 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] upcoing CA backroads drives, 1 SF area, one SoCal Message-ID: Got this from a yahoo group, NorVal (SF Bay Area) backroads drive: Hi All, The Pedal Pushers Pullover drive is scheduled for Saturday, November 13 and we'd love to have you join us for the event. See the Events page on the Pedal Pushers website for more information at: http://www.thepedalpushers.com/events.html In the meantime, here is a link to the Pullover Entry Application form: http://www.hardtuned.com/2010pa.pdf All drivers and navigators welcome, both gals and guys, with a vintage car or something unique that may not qualify for other local driving tours. So dust off your R5 Turbo, Bugatti kit car, Mk1 GTI, Country Squire estate, and other seemingly non-eligible cars because they will be considered acceptable in our eyes. The selection committee will review all applications received to ensure outside-the-box vehicles meet the Pedal Pushers criteria for style and flare, but we do encourage variety. The application also includes a section for pre-ordering t-shirts which will be ready for pick-up at the event. Hope you can make it! Christine "Leadfoot" Kiesling The Pedal Pushers Second item: In case anyone is interested, I am going on the SoCalTT, which is October 10/11 (Sunday / Monday). ~250 miles per day, no hi-ways. $210 per driver, 120 for passenger. I believe Peter Harrison is coming along, not sure how much of his luggage stack is coming. (hollow out the stack and mount a beer keg?) Eric Hankinson is also along with another of his non-Datsun creations. (Rotary-Midget = Ro-dget? Sprite-ary?) I did it solo with no GPS last year, and while challenging to juggle (my trip meter is 15% off, so at each junction I am furiously writing actual next to the projected mileage). Great group of unassuming gearheads. Alfas, Volvos, Corollas, SR20 510's, a TR8, etc. >From the organizer: ______ Please note that entry fee now includes dinner on Sunday and Monday nights as well as the hotel, tee shirt, stickers, dash plaque/patch, trophies, route sheets, etc. The food is Cajun and so far has been damn good. (FOF: I'll second that) The departure as always is from Echo Park, Los Angeles, and the destination this year is Los Alamos, Ca. (note: 13 miles north of Buellton on 101) The route is pretty similar to last year with a few minor changes. _______ I have entry forms and contact info I can forward, PM me. This is definitely an event that is NOT being run for profit. Fergus O From AlanW at dpr.com Mon Sep 20 15:55:16 2010 From: AlanW at dpr.com (Alan Watt) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 14:55:16 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster in TV Yellow Pages Ad Message-ID: <4EDB5C49AFCBCE43A501968FB08956B64C0B5B2C1E@EXCHANGE07.dprinc.com> Did anyone catch this last night on TV. Can't believe the guy just walked past the roadster in search of a Corvair. (Corvair enthusiast - you know I love you!) http://tinyurl.com/26x7bbp Hey, this should enhance the value of our cars (humor, people, humor). At least that's what I will tell my wife so I can justify my next order from Dean. Cheers, - Alan 67 SPL311, Portland, OR From nmleeds at mindspring.com Mon Sep 20 17:16:15 2010 From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (nmleeds at mindspring.com) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 16:16:15 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster in TV Yellow Pages Ad Message-ID: <9612431.1285024576224.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Guess that kid had a death wish -- isn't that corvair unsafe at any speed. Also, on another note, I once had the pleasure of trying to pitch business to Yellowpages.com I think one of the guys I talked to was a car guy and, I imagine (although can't remember specifically) that my '69 2000 probably came up. Related? One can only speculate. -----Original Message----- >From: Alan Watt >Sent: Sep 20, 2010 2:55 PM >To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" >Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster in TV Yellow Pages Ad > >Did anyone catch this last night on TV. Can't believe the guy just walked >past the roadster in search of a Corvair. (Corvair enthusiast - you know I >love you!) > >http://tinyurl.com/26x7bbp > >Hey, this should enhance the value of our cars (humor, people, humor). At >least that's what I will tell my wife so I can justify my next order from >Dean. > >Cheers, >- Alan >67 SPL311, Portland, OR >________________________________________ >Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $16.00 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/nmleeds at mindspring.com From cookefam314 at gmail.com Tue Sep 21 09:56:41 2010 From: cookefam314 at gmail.com (Dave Cooke) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:56:41 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Low compression References: Message-ID: After a low compression reading in cylinder 2 of 60psi, I tried the Seafoam solution with no change. So today I tried the ATF solution, Wow! Now that's some smoke! http://gallery.me.com/cookefam314/100178/ATF%20smoke. Dave Cooke Going out for an aggressive drive now, will report back From ljordan704 at netscape.net Tue Sep 21 12:40:37 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:40:37 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Low compression In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CD27D39E289C0E-6B4-E39@webmail-m085.sysops.aol.com> That's some impressive smoke. How much did you use? Linda -----Original Message----- From: Dave Cooke To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2010 8:56 am Subject: [Roadsters] Low compression After a low compression reading in cylinder 2 of 60psi, I tried the Seafoam solution with no change. So today I tried the ATF solution, Wow! Now that's some smoke! http://gallery.me.com/cookefam314/100178/ATF%20smoke. Dave Cooke Going out for an aggressive drive now, will report back ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From kemp_l at hotmail.com Tue Sep 21 12:56:07 2010 From: kemp_l at hotmail.com (Kemp LaMunyon Sr.) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:56:07 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Low compression In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Hey dave, I noticed you have a 7 blade fan on your car. Does it still have the fan cluch or has it been change out? I read something about those being recalled because the clutch had a defective design. http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.ClutchFan Thanks Kemp > From: cookefam314 at gmail.com > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:56:41 -0500 > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Low compression > > After a low compression reading in cylinder 2 of 60psi, I tried the Seafoam > solution with no change. So today I tried the ATF solution, Wow! Now that's > some smoke! http://gallery.me.com/cookefam314/100178/ATF%20smoke. > > Dave Cooke > Going out for an aggressive drive now, will report back > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/kemp_l at hotmail.com From RWM at RWMann.com Tue Sep 21 13:31:27 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:31:27 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Low compression In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <4C99080F.9040208@RWMann.com> From RWM at RWMann.com Tue Sep 21 13:35:58 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:35:58 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Low compression In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <4C99091E.5020405@RWMann.com> As far back as 1975, I don't think I've ever seen a Roadster fan clutch that worked. Replaced my 7-bladed fan with an electric a few years back. No more takeoff thrust above 3000 RPM.... - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex Kemp LaMunyon Sr. wrote: > Hey dave, > I noticed you have a 7 blade fan on your car. Does it still have the fan > cluch or has it been change out? > I read something about those being recalled because the clutch had a defective > design. > > http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.ClutchFan > > > Thanks > Kemp > > >> From: cookefam314 at gmail.com >> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:56:41 -0500 >> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Subject: [Roadsters] Low compression >> >> After a low compression reading in cylinder 2 of 60psi, I tried the Seafoam >> solution with no change. So today I tried the ATF solution, Wow! Now that's >> some smoke! http://gallery.me.com/cookefam314/100178/ATF%20smoke. >> >> Dave Cooke >> Going out for an aggressive drive now, will report back From cookefam314 at gmail.com Wed Sep 22 07:13:39 2010 From: cookefam314 at gmail.com (Dave Cooke) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:13:39 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Low compression In-Reply-To: <4C99091E.5020405@RWMann.com> References: <4C99091E.5020405@RWMann.com> Message-ID: I used a full quart of ATF, it smoked heavily for about 20-30 minutes at 2000RPM in my garage, then I took it for an aggressive 10 minute drive. Still had some residual smoke on the drive, but I think it was mostly gone by the time I returned. I checked the compression on cylinder #2 when I got back & it's still only at 60psi. So, I guess I'll have to start on the valves... Regarding the 7 blade fan, both my roadsters have them, no fan clutch though. I know they're noisier than the 4 blade model, but they do keep the engine cool. -Dave On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:35 PM, RWM wrote: > As far back as 1975, I don't think I've ever seen a Roadster fan clutch > that worked. > > Replaced my 7-bladed fan with an electric a few years back. No more > takeoff thrust above 3000 RPM.... > > - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex > > > > Kemp LaMunyon Sr. wrote: > >> Hey dave, >> I noticed you have a 7 blade fan on your car. Does it still have the fan >> cluch or has it been change out? >> I read something about those being recalled because the clutch had a >> defective >> design. >> >> http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.ClutchFan >> >> >> Thanks >> Kemp >> >> >> >>> From: cookefam314 at gmail.com >>> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:56:41 -0500 >>> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>> Subject: [Roadsters] Low compression >>> >>> After a low compression reading in cylinder 2 of 60psi, I tried the >>> Seafoam >>> solution with no change. So today I tried the ATF solution, Wow! Now >>> that's >>> some smoke! http://gallery.me.com/cookefam314/100178/ATF%20smoke. >>> >>> Dave Cooke >>> Going out for an aggressive drive now, will report back >>> >> > -- Dave Cooke Roadster owner since '83 Lake in the Hills, IL Chicagoland Chapter of the Dairyland Datsuns From kemp_l at hotmail.com Wed Sep 22 09:11:01 2010 From: kemp_l at hotmail.com (Kemp LaMunyon Sr.) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:11:01 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Low compression In-Reply-To: References: , , , <4C99091E.5020405@RWMann.com>, Message-ID: I was hoping that it was a little piece of pooo in something. but I guess looking on the bright side it could be worse.. Glad to hear the fan clutch is outa there. When people see new things they have a tendency to notice them more. I just read that about the fan problem so I clicked on that right away. Same thing when we bought our ford 250, Didn't pay any attention to trucks till I got one..same thing with our Red nose..I see pits all the time now. Crazy huh? Good luck with your valve job, May it be a simple one. Thanks Kemp Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:13:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Low compression From: cookefam314 at gmail.com To: RWM at rwmann.com CC: kemp_l at hotmail.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net I used a full quart of ATF, it smoked heavily for about 20-30 minutes at 2000RPM in my garage, then I took it for an aggressive 10 minute drive. Still had some residual smoke on the drive, but I think it was mostly gone by the time I returned. I checked the compression on cylinder #2 when I got back & it's still only at 60psi. So, I guess I'll have to start on the valves... Regarding the 7 blade fan, both my roadsters have them, no fan clutch though. I know they're noisier than the 4 blade model, but they do keep the engine cool. -Dave On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:35 PM, RWM wrote: As far back as 1975, I don't think I've ever seen a Roadster fan clutch that worked. Replaced my 7-bladed fan with an electric a few years back. No more takeoff thrust above 3000 RPM.... - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex From lmflaming at comcast.net Wed Sep 22 09:37:19 2010 From: lmflaming at comcast.net (lmflaming at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:37:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] How many are there Message-ID: <1535503629.589541.1285169839094.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Does anyone know how many 1960 and how many 1961B 1200 roadsters were made. So far I have heard and read that a total of 288 between both years, but how many of each year were made? Larry From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 22 09:52:56 2010 From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:52:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Differential gasket or RTV? Message-ID: <207398.81178.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi roadster fans, Is it a must to use the gasket or can one get by with the blue RTV so commonly used toady? I'm referring to the round pumpkin gasket that goes between the gears and housing. Thanks, I'm upgrading the 2000 with 39.0 gear set. From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 22 10:49:29 2010 From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:49:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] How many are there In-Reply-To: <1535503629.589541.1285169839094.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <916495.21674.qm@web81701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >From the SPL212 Vin Tags that I have seen (From cars titled either 1960 or 1961), all the serial numbers denoted they were actually made in 1960. The Engine Tags on the SPL212s look like: SPL212-0-00XXX The '-0-' refers to the year 1960. For example, I own car #113. It is Titled as a 1961 Datsun, but the VIN is SPL212-0-00113 The first SPL212 sold in the USA was Car #198 (SPL212-0-00198). Much like the spl310/311 roadsters in the early-mid 1960s, it was common practice to title the car based on when it was sold, rather the manufacture date. Dan Zubkoff Houston, TX --- On Wed, 9/22/10, lmflaming at comcast.net wrote: From: lmflaming at comcast.net Subject: [Roadsters] How many are there To: "Roadster List" Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2010, 10:37 AM Does anyone know how many 1960 and how many 1961B 1200 roadsters were made. So far I have heard and read that a total of 288 between both years, but how many of each year were made? Larry ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/zubkoff at sbcglobal.net From jsk977 at optonline.net Wed Sep 22 12:18:43 2010 From: jsk977 at optonline.net (J KRAKAUER) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:18:43 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Differential gasket or RTV? References: <207398.81178.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <344CFB6ABAF84161B3C45C543486C5CA@HP1450> Tom, Not sure about RTV, but way back, at the recommendation of the folks at Sharp I used a loctite gasket replacement compound on the diff.. I'm sure its been reformulated many times but in the late 60s it was orange and not very viscous, much thinner than RTV. Worked great, changed the differential many times and never had a leak. BTW they also used the same stuff on both sides of the head gasket. Do some research on loctite and you can probably find something similar. Jerry Krakauer SRL311 00099 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom PRATHER" To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.ne roadster list" Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 11:52 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Differential gasket or RTV? > Hi roadster fans, Is it a must to use the gasket or can one get by with > the blue RTV so commonly used toady? I'm referring to the round pumpkin > gasket that goes between the gears and housing. Thanks, I'm upgrading the > 2000 with 39.0 gear set. From wilhouse at charter.net Wed Sep 22 12:21:02 2010 From: wilhouse at charter.net (Ken & Tammy Williams) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:21:02 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Differential gasket or RTV? References: <207398.81178.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6BFAF041F1D549C88829692A883CA0AB@wilhouse> I can't speak specifically to the roadster, but my '00 F-150 has no gasket and only uses sealant. Now back to somebody with real knowledge... Ken '67 1600 Janesville, WI From jsk977 at optonline.net Wed Sep 22 12:25:24 2010 From: jsk977 at optonline.net (J KRAKAUER) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:25:24 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Differential gasket or RTV?---- UPDATE References: <207398.81178.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <344CFB6ABAF84161B3C45C543486C5CA@HP1450> Message-ID: <3A6D2F31926F4C11ADD1F5A64C67C5EF@HP1450> Good new: I actually found a 40 year old tube of the stuff in my garage. Bad news: it's all dried up. Worse news: the writing on the tube is all worn off! Jerry Krakauer ----- Original Message ----- From: "J KRAKAUER" To: "Tom PRATHER" ; "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.ne roadster list" Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Differential gasket or RTV? > Tom, > > Not sure about RTV, but way back, at the recommendation of the folks at > Sharp I used a loctite gasket replacement compound on the diff.. I'm sure > its been reformulated many times but in the late 60s it was orange and not > very viscous, much thinner than RTV. Worked great, changed the > differential many times and never had a leak. BTW they also used the same > stuff on both sides of the head gasket. Do some research on loctite and > you can probably find something similar. > > > Jerry Krakauer > > SRL311 00099 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom PRATHER" > To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.ne roadster list" > > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 11:52 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] Differential gasket or RTV? > > >> Hi roadster fans, Is it a must to use the gasket or can one get by with >> the blue RTV so commonly used toady? I'm referring to the round pumpkin >> gasket that goes between the gears and housing. Thanks, I'm upgrading the >> 2000 with 39.0 gear set. From mkiisupra at hotmail.com Wed Sep 22 12:34:58 2010 From: mkiisupra at hotmail.com (Eric Gillis) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:34:58 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Differential gasket or RTV? In-Reply-To: <207398.81178.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <207398.81178.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Last Diff Cover I replaced was from a Toyota, needed no gasket, rather used FIPG (form in place gasket) from Toyota. Great stuff, no leaks, pretty expensive. Id find a Permatex/RTV brand that is similar, isnt the gasket rather thin/paper like?? YMMV, Eric G > Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:52:56 -0700 > From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Differential gasket or RTV? > > Hi roadster fans, Is it a must to use the gasket or can one get by with the blue RTV so commonly used toady? I'm referring to the round pumpkin gasket that goes between the gears and housing. Thanks, I'm upgrading the 2000 with 39.0 gear set. > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/mkiisupra at hotmail.com From twobeaners at earthlink.net Wed Sep 22 12:46:46 2010 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:46:46 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Differential gasket or RTV? References: <207398.81178.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <73E0C6C15B9A448C9812F4623D064E82@lap120> Hylomar, at some local auto parts, i.e. NAPA, etc....or order on line. Use with or without paper gaskets, TOTALLY great for every kind of sealing, ...gas, oil, water, hot, or cold. Google for more info and opinions. I've used it all over my mechanical /fluid components in the roadster, including the head. Available in tube or aerosol can. Just my opinion, YMMV. Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom PRATHER" To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.ne roadster list" Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:52 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Differential gasket or RTV? > Hi roadster fans, Is it a must to use the gasket or can one get by with > the blue RTV so commonly used toady? I'm referring to the round pumpkin > gasket that goes between the gears and housing. Thanks, I'm upgrading the > 2000 with 39.0 gear set. > ________________________________________ From harris_seq at yahoo.com Wed Sep 22 12:48:16 2010 From: harris_seq at yahoo.com (Mike Harris) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 11:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Message-ID: <799052.43679.qm@web51107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I would suggest Permatex Ultra Black and stay away from the RTV blue, the blue sealers tend to expand when they come into contact with oil (rearend dope) use a bead around an 1/8" thick and be sure to completely circle the bolt holes. From lmflaming at comcast.net Wed Sep 22 13:05:09 2010 From: lmflaming at comcast.net (lmflaming at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:05:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <799052.43679.qm@web51107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1600605821.603698.1285182309750.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> On my valve cover on my 66 I tried 2 cork gaskets and they severly leaked. I then used Permatex Ultra Blue with no gasket. I put abut a 5/16 inch high and wide bead around the head and placed the cover on it and finger tightened the cover leaving a little to tighten after 24 hours.B I then tightened it a turn and it leaked so I tightened it a little more and it stopped leaking. In the end I tightened it pretty tight and was scared it may crack the cover but it did not and itB has no leaks. Tightening it that tight is not a good thing to do but it did work for me. I'm sure I'm way past the Tork specs. LarryB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Harris" To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 12:48:16 PM Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) I would suggest Permatex Ultra Black and stay away from the RTV blue, the blue sealers tend to expand when they come into contact with oil (rearend dope) use a bead around an 1/8" thick and be sure to completely circle the bolt holes. B ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation B $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/lmflaming at comcast.net From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Wed Sep 22 14:37:34 2010 From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:37:34 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <1600605821.603698.1285182309750.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1600605821.603698.1285182309750.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1F164D1D-87F2-4E95-A8E1-02DCB34EB08A@yahoo.com> Buna N cork is the good stuff Industrial stuff, not cheap JimG Sent from my iPhone On Sep 22, 2010, at 3:05 PM, lmflaming at comcast.net wrote: > On my valve cover on my 66 I tried 2 cork gaskets and they severly leaked. I > then used Permatex Ultra Blue with no gasket. I put abut a 5/16 inch high and > wide bead around the head and placed the cover on it and finger tightened the > cover leaving a little to tighten after 24 hours.B I then tightened it a turn > and it leaked so I tightened it a little more and it stopped leaking. In the > end I tightened it pretty tight and was scared it may crack the cover but it > did not and itB has no leaks. Tightening it that tight is not a good thing to > do but it did work for me. I'm sure I'm way past the Tork specs. > > LarryB > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Harris" > To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 12:48:16 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) > > I would suggest Permatex Ultra Black and stay away from the RTV blue, the blue > sealers tend to expand when they come into contact with oil (rearend dope) use > a bead around an 1/8" thick and be sure to completely circle the bolt holes. > B > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation B $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/lmflaming at comcast.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com From samtheinept at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 22 16:03:15 2010 From: samtheinept at sbcglobal.net (Gary Russell) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <1F164D1D-87F2-4E95-A8E1-02DCB34EB08A@yahoo.com> References: <1600605821.603698.1285182309750.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <1F164D1D-87F2-4E95-A8E1-02DCB34EB08A@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <127426.5720.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm kind of old and old school, and I just noticed this thread, but we used to soak cork gaskets over night in water before we used them. No sealer. Gary Russell Texas ________________________________ From: Jim Gammon To: "lmflaming at comcast.net" Cc: Roadster List Sent: Wed, September 22, 2010 3:37:34 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (no subject) Buna N cork is the good stuff Industrial stuff, not cheap JimG Sent from my iPhone On Sep 22, 2010, at 3:05 PM, lmflaming at comcast.net wrote: > On my valve cover on my 66 I tried 2 cork gaskets and they severly leaked. I > then used Permatex Ultra Blue with no gasket. I put abut a 5/16 inch high and > wide bead around the head and placed the cover on it and finger tightened the > cover leaving a little to tighten after 24 hours.B I then tightened it a turn > and it leaked so I tightened it a little more and it stopped leaking. In the > end I tightened it pretty tight and was scared it may crack the cover but it > did not and itB has no leaks. Tightening it that tight is not a good thing to > do but it did work for me. I'm sure I'm way past the Tork specs. > > LarryB > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Harris" > To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 12:48:16 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) > > I would suggest Permatex Ultra Black and stay away from the RTV blue, the blue > sealers tend to expand when they come into contact with oil (rearend dope) use > a bead around an 1/8" thick and be sure to completely circle the bolt holes. > B > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation B $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/lmflaming at comcast.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/samtheinept at sbcglobal. net From samtheinept at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 22 16:03:15 2010 From: samtheinept at sbcglobal.net (Gary Russell) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <1F164D1D-87F2-4E95-A8E1-02DCB34EB08A@yahoo.com> References: <1600605821.603698.1285182309750.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <1F164D1D-87F2-4E95-A8E1-02DCB34EB08A@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <127426.5720.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm kind of old and old school, and I just noticed this thread, but we used to soak cork gaskets over night in water before we used them. No sealer. Gary Russell Texas ________________________________ From: Jim Gammon To: "lmflaming at comcast.net" Cc: Roadster List Sent: Wed, September 22, 2010 3:37:34 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (no subject) Buna N cork is the good stuff Industrial stuff, not cheap JimG Sent from my iPhone On Sep 22, 2010, at 3:05 PM, lmflaming at comcast.net wrote: > On my valve cover on my 66 I tried 2 cork gaskets and they severly leaked. I > then used Permatex Ultra Blue with no gasket. I put abut a 5/16 inch high and > wide bead around the head and placed the cover on it and finger tightened the > cover leaving a little to tighten after 24 hours.B I then tightened it a turn > and it leaked so I tightened it a little more and it stopped leaking. In the > end I tightened it pretty tight and was scared it may crack the cover but it > did not and itB has no leaks. Tightening it that tight is not a good thing to > do but it did work for me. I'm sure I'm way past the Tork specs. > > LarryB > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Harris" > To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 12:48:16 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) > > I would suggest Permatex Ultra Black and stay away from the RTV blue, the blue > sealers tend to expand when they come into contact with oil (rearend dope) use > a bead around an 1/8" thick and be sure to completely circle the bolt holes. > B > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation B $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/lmflaming at comcast.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/samtheinept at sbcglobal. net From stebharvey at ameritech.net Wed Sep 22 17:28:22 2010 From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:28:22 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Wiring help needed, non-roadster Message-ID: <000001cb5aad$d9792b70$8c6b8250$@net> I'm befuddled in trying to figure out the correct wire hookup's for the rear tail lights on a 21 foot 1979 Chevy 30 van RV. Each side has two bulbs, a single element bulb and a dual element bulb. I believe that each tail light has four functions: Running/head light Indicator, left and right Brake light Hazard light I guess my first question is, what functions should the single and dual element blubs on each side be performing? The way they are currently wired, when I operate the left indicator, brake and running/headlight's all is well. When I operate the right indicator, not only does the right indicator flash but the dual element on the left side flash's as well. Very confusing to me! I've wired plenty of roadster's with great success but this thing is killing me. The interior of the RV has been gutted so I can see and follow all of the wires to the back from above the driver's side door post. The ground wires (white) also run from the front and appears to be grounded (to the frame) correctly. Steve Milwaukee From pat at hornesystemstx.com Wed Sep 22 17:50:10 2010 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:50:10 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Wiring help needed, non-roadster In-Reply-To: <000001cb5aad$d9792b70$8c6b8250$@net> References: <000001cb5aad$d9792b70$8c6b8250$@net> Message-ID: <4C9A9632.8040704@hornesystemstx.com> Steve, This kind of problem can be a real problem to find the first time you see it. After that it is a breeze! There is a bad ground on one or both of your right side lights. Once you find that, all should be well. If not, please let me know what the new problem shows itself. Repairing the ground will get rid of the opposite side lights coming on. If anyone is interested in why this is the case, I'll be happy to provide more information than you will ever need! Peace, Pat Thusly spake Steve Harvey, On 9/22/2010 6:28 PM: > I'm befuddled in trying to figure out the correct wire hookup's for the rear > tail lights on a 21 foot 1979 Chevy 30 van RV. Each side has two bulbs, a > single element bulb and a dual element bulb. I believe that each tail light > has four functions: > > Running/head light > > Indicator, left and right > > Brake light > > Hazard light > > > > I guess my first question is, what functions should the single and dual > element blubs on each side be performing? The way they are currently wired, > when I operate the left indicator, brake and running/headlight's all is > well. When I operate the right indicator, not only does the right indicator > flash but the dual element on the left side flash's as well. Very confusing > to me! I've wired plenty of roadster's with great success but this thing is > killing me. The interior of the RV has been gutted so I can see and follow > all of the wires to the back from above the driver's side door post. The > ground wires (white) also run from the front and appears to be grounded (to > the frame) correctly. > > > > Steve > > Milwaukee > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/pat at hornesystemstx.com > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From dooger at wildblue.net Wed Sep 22 20:20:46 2010 From: dooger at wildblue.net (Wes Jones) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 22:20:46 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Wiring help needed, non-roadster In-Reply-To: <000001cb5aad$d9792b70$8c6b8250$@net> References: <000001cb5aad$d9792b70$8c6b8250$@net> Message-ID: On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:28:22 -0400, Steve Harvey wrote: > when I operate the left indicator, brake and running/headlight's all is > well. When I operate the right indicator, not only does the right > indicator > flash but the dual element on the left side flash's as well. Very > confusing > to me! Check the bulbs and see that one doesn't have a filament that's sagged and is touching the other one. It's probably that right rear dual filament one but could be the right front too. Best, wes -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Sep 22 23:39:29 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 22:39:29 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] FALKEN ZIEX ZE-912 Message-ID: <006201cb5ae1$b16e2c00$144a8400$@net> >From the Bluebirds list. I'm pretty sure some of y'all run these tires. Either email Julian directly, or I can forward any replies to the roadster list/me. Thanks. Pete -----Original Message----- From: bluebirds-request at bluebirds.datsun510.com [mailto:bluebirds-request at bluebirds.datsun510.com] On Behalf Of jserles at dimequarterly.tierranet.com Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 9:17 AM To: BLUEBIRDS Subject: FALKEN ZIEX ZE-912 Hello all, Anyone have opinions on this tire? I'm looking to fit it in a 195/60/14 to my 510. I don't track my car and it isn't set up to maximize the grip of something like the Azenis (and I don't need the noise). Looking for a good compromise between cost, handling, and longevity. Thanks, Julian From RWM at RWMann.com Thu Sep 23 05:17:39 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 07:17:39 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] FALKEN ZIEX ZE-912 In-Reply-To: <006201cb5ae1$b16e2c00$144a8400$@net> References: <006201cb5ae1$b16e2c00$144a8400$@net> Message-ID: <4C9B3753.9010200@RWMann.com> I run Ziex 912 on the Dodge Grand Caravan in 235/60/R16 based on the Consumer Reports recommendation... Good tire, so far. And Bridgestone RE71 195/55/R14 front 205/50/R14 rear on the Roadster. Great tire, but NLA for years. - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex On 09/23/2010 01:39, Pete Peters wrote: > > From the Bluebirds list. I'm pretty sure some of y'all run these tires. > > Either email Julian directly, or I can forward any replies to the roadster > list/me. > > Thanks. > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: bluebirds-request at bluebirds.datsun510.com > [mailto:bluebirds-request at bluebirds.datsun510.com] On Behalf Of > jserles at dimequarterly.tierranet.com > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 9:17 AM > To: BLUEBIRDS > Subject: FALKEN ZIEX ZE-912 > > Hello all, > > Anyone have opinions on this tire? I'm looking to fit it in a 195/60/14 > to my 510. I don't track my car and it isn't set up to maximize the grip > of something like the Azenis (and I don't need the noise). Looking for a > good compromise between cost, handling, and longevity. > > Thanks, > Julian From pat at hornesystemstx.com Thu Sep 23 09:36:56 2010 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:36:56 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Wiring help needed, non-roadster In-Reply-To: References: <000001cb5aad$d9792b70$8c6b8250$@net> Message-ID: <4C9B7418.5010203@hornesystemstx.com> Wes is correct, it could be the right front light also that is causing the problem. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Wes Jones, On 9/22/2010 9:20 PM: > On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:28:22 -0400, Steve Harvey > wrote: > >> when I operate the left indicator, brake and running/headlight's all is >> well. When I operate the right indicator, not only does the right >> indicator >> flash but the dual element on the left side flash's as well. Very >> confusing >> to me! > > Check the bulbs and see that one doesn't have a filament that's sagged > and is touching the other one. It's probably that right rear dual > filament one but could be the right front too. > > Best, wes > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From gsglasgow at comcast.net Thu Sep 23 10:45:48 2010 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:45:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] FALKEN ZIEX ZE-912 In-Reply-To: <2083808927.1069844.1285260291328.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1833762528.1069930.1285260348534.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> You might take a look at the Bridgestone Potenza B RE-960 AS. We've got a set of these on my wife's Subaru and they seem to work great, especially in the rain (if that's a consideration). Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:39:29 PM Subject: [Roadsters] FALKEN ZIEX ZE-912 >From the Bluebirds list. I'm pretty sure some of y'all run these tires. Either email Julian directly, or I can forward any replies to the roadster list/me. Thanks. Pete -----Original Message----- From: bluebirds-request at bluebirds.datsun510.com [mailto:bluebirds-request at bluebirds.datsun510.com] On Behalf Of jserles at dimequarterly.tierranet.com Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 9:17 AM To: BLUEBIRDS Subject: FALKEN ZIEX ZE-912 Hello all, Anyone have opinions on this tire? B I'm looking to fit it in a 195/60/14 to my 510. B I don't track my car and it isn't set up to maximize the grip of something like the Azenis (and I don't need the noise). B Looking for a good compromise between cost, handling, and longevity. Thanks, Julian ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation B $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gsglasgow at comcast.net From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Sep 23 11:58:22 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:58:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] FALKEN ZIEX ZE-912 In-Reply-To: <1833762528.1069930.1285260348534.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <991080520.1602070.1285264702903.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Appears Julian (who lives in SoCal) is going to go with the 912's after receiving nothing but positive comments. Thanks, everyone. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "Pete Peters" Cc: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:45:48 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FALKEN ZIEX ZE-912 You might take a look at the Bridgestone Potenza RE-960 AS. We've got a set of these on my wife's Subaru and they seem to work great, especially in the rain (if that's a consideration). Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:39:29 PM Subject: [Roadsters] FALKEN ZIEX ZE-912 >From the Bluebirds list. I'm pretty sure some of y'all run these tires. Either email Julian directly, or I can forward any replies to the roadster list/me. Thanks. Pete -----Original Message----- From: bluebirds-request at bluebirds.datsun510.com [mailto:bluebirds-request at bluebirds.datsun510.com] On Behalf Of jserles at dimequarterly.tierranet.com Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 9:17 AM To: BLUEBIRDS Subject: FALKEN ZIEX ZE-912 Hello all, Anyone have opinions on this tire? I'm looking to fit it in a 195/60/14 to my 510. I don't track my car and it isn't set up to maximize the grip of something like the Azenis (and I don't need the noise). Looking for a good compromise between cost, handling, and longevity. Thanks, Julian ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gsglasgow at comcast.net From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com Thu Sep 23 14:41:42 2010 From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:41:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] test Message-ID: <680040.54997.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> test From gcallahan at prodigy.net Thu Sep 23 15:44:21 2010 From: gcallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] test In-Reply-To: <680040.54997.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <786756.29400.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Pass Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon No longer the owner of: 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 :~( --- On Thu, 9/23/10, steven boortz wrote: From: steven boortz Subject: [Roadsters] test To: "roadsters" Date: Thursday, September 23, 2010, 1:41 PM test ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcallahan at prodigy.net From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com Sat Sep 25 20:57:49 2010 From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:57:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] test Message-ID: <155557.41699.qm@web53503.mail.re2.yahoo.com> pttt....pttt Is this thing on? From joedatsun at att.net Sat Sep 25 21:34:44 2010 From: joedatsun at att.net (Brian Parks) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:34:44 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] test In-Reply-To: <155557.41699.qm@web53503.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <155557.41699.qm@web53503.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <54D90413-4593-40E8-BDAD-31B6E7D16B38@att.net> its on On Sep 25, 2010, at 9:57 PM, Patti Dwinell wrote: > pttt....pttt > > Is this thing on? > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/joedatsun at att.net From graemes at internode.on.net Sat Sep 25 21:41:11 2010 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 13:11:11 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] test In-Reply-To: <155557.41699.qm@web53503.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <155557.41699.qm@web53503.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5F1A9B944EB34D90A5BA8CE672358801@desktop> Hearing you clear and loud Patti. How are things with you today? -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patti Dwinell Sent: Sunday, 26 September 2010 12:28 PM To: All list Subject: [Roadsters] test pttt....pttt Is this thing on? ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on. net From bill_wessel at yahoo.com Sat Sep 25 11:48:42 2010 From: bill_wessel at yahoo.com (Bill Wessel) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 10:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Congrats Bill Wessel on Slot #5 !! In-Reply-To: <375472.46193.qm@web37906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <22040.13453.qm@web63408.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Fifth on the day but 8th overall...just happy to be in the show after the spindle break. See ya at the track! Bill --- On Thu, 9/23/10, Steve Jacobson wrote: From: Steve Jacobson Subject: Congrats Bill Wessel on Slot #5 !! To: "Roadster mailing List Roadster mailing List" , alfanut31952 at aol.com, araofmadison at sbcglobal.net, "Gary Cindy Ault" , bill at brandnewchef.com, "Dave Debbie Cooke" , datsun-67 at hotmail.com, "Bob Dicke" , "Steve Harvey" , johnstdd at sbcglobal.net, "Dan Kroninger" , lowryjj at sbcglobal.net, "Tim Putland" , vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com, "Bill Wessel" , "John Wierz" , "Ken & Tammy Williams" , willie.peterson at gmail.com Date: Thursday, September 23, 2010, 5:00 PM Bill qualified a strong 5th for Sunday's Runoffs! 3,4 & 5 were all within 0.7 seconds. He was in 4th until the very last moment when Harris ripped off a lap .26 seconds faster. Things are going the right direction for the fastest Roadster in the land! If I recall, last year he qualified 6th and ended up on the podium. Remember SUNDAY 1:30PM ! If you can't be there, follow scoring live from http://www.scca.com/eventitems.aspx?item=202&event=15558&hub=1 Follow Race Timing Links, Sunday, FP. Also check out GoRacingTV.com and SpeedCastTV.com. The Top 10: P CLS PIC No. DRIVER NAME BESTIME DIFF GAP FL NL LAPTIME LED BSPEED 1 FP 1 18 Steve Sargis 2:32.860 --- --- 2 4 7:45.605 0 94.204 2 FP 2 73 Kevin Ruck 2:34.776 1.916 1.916 3 5 2:54.547 0 93.038 3 FP 3 7 Eric Prill 2:36.278 3.418 1.502 6 6 2:36.278 0 92.143 4 FP 4 8 Rick Harris 2:36.677 3.817 0.399 3 4 2:42.220 0 91.909 5 FP 5 47 Bill Wessel 2:36.937 4.077 0.260 3 7 3:08.548 0 91.757 6 FP 6 51 Ken Kannard 2:37.631 4.771 0.694 3 4 2:41.268 0 91.353 7 FP 7 83 Bob Bramlage 2:38.153 5.293 0.522 2 5 3:25.181 0 91.051 8 FP 8 36 Brian Linn 2:39.800 6.940 1.647 4 5 2:48.559 0 90.113 9 FP 9 37 Sam Henry 2:39.878 7.018 0.078 4 5 2:59.906 0 90.069 10 FP 10 34 Donald Kraftson 2:40.475 7.615 0.597 4 5 3:18.309 0 89.734 Full list at http://www.livetiming.net/SCCA/Runoffs/LiveTiming.asp?width=1024&Class=FP PS: 2:36 at RA is just pretty damn fast in a 45 year old 1600 roadster! Steve Steve's racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society www.elrss.com From fairlady66 at gmail.com Sun Sep 26 21:32:01 2010 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 20:32:01 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] ALL Datsun Show-N-Shine Toy Drive Message-ID: Registration is now open for the 3rd Annual SoCalROC Show-N-Shine Toy Drive. Open to Datsuns ONLY Register by logging onto: www.socalroc.net and clicking on the Show-N-Shine link in the Main Menu You can also follow it on Facebook by typing socalroc in the Facebook search box -- -- Our Classic Rides: '66 1600-My Fairlady '70 521-Fun (work) in progress '72 510-Wagon with Potential- Needs ALOT of work but it has Potential Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Datsun, then you are lucky enough. From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com Sun Sep 26 21:50:03 2010 From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 03:50:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] steering box (was test) Message-ID: <230711.75535.qm@web53505.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello! We just switched internet providers from Cox to AT&T, and I'm not getting much mail in any of my accounts. Normally, the list keeps me busy and I've numerous eBay searches running all the time. With things so quiet, I was thinking it's because of the switch. Thank you all for letting me know all is well. Since it is so quiet... I've been concerned about my steering box. It's leaking, I believe, from the filler cap. I do not know if I keep topping it too full, or if my cap is just bad. Who has knowledge of how much gear oil is supposed to be in them? Is there a drain to empty the box and start over? Thank you! Patti From graemes at internode.on.net Mon Sep 27 04:00:33 2010 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 19:30:33 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: steering box Message-ID: The early steering box is listed at 0.25L capacity which is MP#90 Hypoid gear oil temperate climate MP#140 for >32DegC MP#380 for <-12DegC Drain plug is a hex bolt right in the centre of the housing about 2" from the splined shaft. P/N 6 in attached file ;) "Hello! We just switched internet providers from Cox to AT&T, and I'm not getting much mail in any of my accounts. Normally, the list keeps me busy and I've numerous eBay searches running all the time. With things so quiet, I was thinking it's because of the switch. Thank you all for letting me know all is well. Since it is so quiet... I've been concerned about my steering box. It's leaking, I believe, from the filler cap. I do not know if I keep topping it too full, or if my cap is just bad. Who has knowledge of how much gear oil is supposed to be in them? Is there a drain to empty the box and start over? Thank you! Patti" ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on. net From stebharvey at ameritech.net Mon Sep 27 07:25:20 2010 From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 08:25:20 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Wiring help needed, non-roadster update Message-ID: <001201cb5e47$6f90f150$4eb2d3f0$@net> Thanks for the help with my RV rear light wiring. Once I got all of the rear wires back to the correct colors, not three different colors on the same line, the problem was an intermittent ground wire to the underbody of the RV (not the frame) and the flasher on the fuse box. All is well and I'm ready to install the new interior over the correctly functioning wiring! Steve Milwaukee From zariwny100 at comcast.net Mon Sep 27 10:42:58 2010 From: zariwny100 at comcast.net (Kerry and Kae Zariwny) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 09:42:58 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster spotted this AM References: <002f01cb582b$14c05c60$3e411520$@net><4C965F8C.8080302@socal.rr.com><004e01cb5834$9740c860$c5c25920$@net> Message-ID: Hi All Spotted a red roadster going over the Sellwood bridge westbound at 9:22 am this morning. I was the guy hanging out of the white ML, trying to give the driver a thumbs up without driving off the bridge . Anyone on the list? Kerry Z SW Portland, OR 19698 1600 From Rogerweb2 at columbus.rr.com Mon Sep 27 14:53:08 2010 From: Rogerweb2 at columbus.rr.com (Rogerweb) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 16:53:08 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1969 Datsun 2000 for sale Message-ID: <4CA10434.3010800@columbus.rr.com> I am selling my '69 Datsun roadster. I have had it for 30+ years, purchased it from my brother-in-law who got it basically brand new after it was stolen from the O.O. It is probably about 90% original never wrecked. Just invested around $2500.00 in complete engine rebuild. Will need brake work and new paint to complete the car. .Just your typical Datsun rust. Any questions either contact me thru here or by phone, 614-873-5832. Roger Many additional parts will go w/car: Dual brake master cyl, 2 rear brake drums, original door, original deck lid. From a 68? SPL311-26395 complete dash w/crack in middle and tack appears to have rust in face otherwise complete, windshield, front suspension minus springs (ball joints) overflow tank and radiator. Paul Kort and Bob Smith from Ohio helped with the 2 year U20 rebuild. Working on pictures. http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/1976584436.html From roadsters311 at rogers.com Tue Sep 28 16:10:03 2010 From: roadsters311 at rogers.com (Al Boettcher) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:10:03 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Test Message-ID: <7F57D3B3F3BF404691B1214B00B16D54@hercules> This is a test of the emergency broadcast system Is anyone out there. SETI From tputland at charter.net Tue Sep 28 16:16:04 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 15:16:04 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Test In-Reply-To: <7F57D3B3F3BF404691B1214B00B16D54@hercules> Message-ID: <20100928181605.H0L69.9385294.root@mp11> Just those of us wasting away the great fall weather with a herniated disc keeping me from doing anything. I can't even sleep in my own bed. ---- Al Boettcher wrote: ============= This is a test of the emergency broadcast system Is anyone out there. SETI ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Sep 28 16:51:22 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 15:51:22 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Test In-Reply-To: <7F57D3B3F3BF404691B1214B00B16D54@hercules> References: <7F57D3B3F3BF404691B1214B00B16D54@hercules> Message-ID: <002201cb5f5f$acf0dfb0$06d29f10$@net> Rewiring the first floor. Who has time for cars? Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Al Boettcher Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 3:10 PM To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Test This is a test of the emergency broadcast system Is anyone out there. SETI ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov Tue Sep 28 16:51:44 2010 From: phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED10)) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 17:51:44 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Test In-Reply-To: <002201cb5f5f$acf0dfb0$06d29f10$@net> References: <7F57D3B3F3BF404691B1214B00B16D54@hercules> <002201cb5f5f$acf0dfb0$06d29f10$@net> Message-ID: <8C3F2F8D-5BFF-482B-9957-F43139C0D6FA@nasa.gov> Getting the camper ready for the last trip to the beach for fall break. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 28, 2010, at 5:50 PM, "Pete Peters" wrote: > Rewiring the first floor. Who has time for cars? > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Al > Boettcher > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 3:10 PM > To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Test > > This is a test of the emergency broadcast system > Is anyone out there. > SETI > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne > t > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/phillip.b.hall at msfc.na sa.gov From hamerfinn at gmail.com Tue Sep 28 16:55:46 2010 From: hamerfinn at gmail.com (Karyn Hamer-Finn) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 08:55:46 +1000 Subject: [Roadsters] Test In-Reply-To: <7F57D3B3F3BF404691B1214B00B16D54@hercules> References: <7F57D3B3F3BF404691B1214B00B16D54@hercules> Message-ID: <1B8BD211-6724-47BB-86EE-533A11F00B39@gmail.com> Even makes it all the way down under. Karyn 1966 1600 1965 1600-donor On 29/09/2010, at 8:10 AM, "Al Boettcher" wrote: > This is a test of the emergency broadcast system > Is anyone out there. > SETI > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/hamerfinn at gmail.com From keithddowning at yahoo.com Tue Sep 28 17:15:17 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 16:15:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Paint Code 665 Yellow Message-ID: <286369.16141.qm@web83302.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hey List. I'm going to paint my engine bay (currently black). I'd like to match the stock color exact, or as close to exact as possible. The car is currently yellow but it's not the stock color and too bright/dark for me. I have a rebuilt U-20 going in, so I want to paint the engine bay now, and match the rest of the car at some point in the future. Rallye lists the cross-reference of Datsun 665 Yellow as PPG # 81768. I called my local Automotive Paint Supply Store to see if they had it. They were very helpful, but said the PPG color is not a current color. Does anyone have a different cross-reference number for 665 Yellow. Thanks in Advance. I will post this question on 311s.org as well. Keith Downing p.s. if anyone in the Southern California area has a stock 665 Yellow Datsun, and has a part I could borrow to get a color match from, I would certainly appriciate it. Engine Bay: http://fototime.com/0F25A67D46D530B/standard.jpg From slowboy at cox.net Tue Sep 28 17:53:18 2010 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 16:53:18 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Yellow Paint Message-ID: <000201cb5f68$535e5640$fa1b02c0$@cox.net> While you guys are thinking of yellow paint as it certainly made me do, what yellow is a close match to the early jack that is in the trunk? Thank you. From graemes at internode.on.net Tue Sep 28 18:09:59 2010 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:39:59 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] Test In-Reply-To: <7F57D3B3F3BF404691B1214B00B16D54@hercules> References: <7F57D3B3F3BF404691B1214B00B16D54@hercules> Message-ID: <59BCFE73FF50494D9CFD984D578A868A@desktop> Nissanman, present and correct. Well, as correct as I'll ever be. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Al Boettcher Sent: Wednesday, 29 September 2010 7:40 AM To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Test This is a test of the emergency broadcast system Is anyone out there. SETI ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on. net From RWM at RWMann.com Tue Sep 28 18:09:33 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 20:09:33 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Yellow Paint In-Reply-To: <000201cb5f68$535e5640$fa1b02c0$@cox.net> References: <000201cb5f68$535e5640$fa1b02c0$@cox.net> Message-ID: <4CA283BD.9030600@RWMann.com> As close as I can tell, "New York City Taxi Yellow". On 09/28/2010 19:53, SlowBoy wrote: > While you guys are thinking of yellow paint as it certainly made me do, what > yellow is a close match to the early jack that is in the trunk? > > > > Thank you. From dave at ranteer.com Tue Sep 28 18:33:10 2010 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:33:10 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] [SPAM] Yellow Paint In-Reply-To: <000201cb5f68$535e5640$fa1b02c0$@cox.net> References: <000201cb5f68$535e5640$fa1b02c0$@cox.net> Message-ID: <0E6F91BF3DF343D18848CE0BC97B1315@ranteer.local> I painted mine to match the car -------------------------------------------------- From: "SlowBoy" Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 6:53 PM To: "Datsun Roadsters" Subject: [SPAM] [Roadsters] Yellow Paint > While you guys are thinking of yellow paint as it certainly made me do, > what > yellow is a close match to the early jack that is in the trunk? > > > > Thank you. From svedise at hotmail.com Tue Sep 28 18:34:25 2010 From: svedise at hotmail.com (Jim Svedise) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 17:34:25 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Test In-Reply-To: <7F57D3B3F3BF404691B1214B00B16D54@hercules> References: <7F57D3B3F3BF404691B1214B00B16D54@hercules> Message-ID: No buddy here. Jim Mexico From roadster at astound.net Tue Sep 28 19:07:18 2010 From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:07:18 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Test In-Reply-To: <8C3F2F8D-5BFF-482B-9957-F43139C0D6FA@nasa.gov> References: <7F57D3B3F3BF404691B1214B00B16D54@hercules> <002201cb5f5f$acf0dfb0$06d29f10$@net> <8C3F2F8D-5BFF-482B-9957-F43139C0D6FA@nasa.gov> Message-ID: Helping my son-in-law stain the new bookcase I built for my daughter. So while the clear sealer is drying, he looks at my '68 frame-off body sitting up on a wood frame and says: "I got time, how about we start tearing that body apart and reclaim space in your garage!". A shiver went up my spine. It's been sitting there for 13 years, I've been busy with other things. He'll be back tomorrow, might go for it! Fred - So.SF On Sep 28, 2010, at 3:51 PM, "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED10)" wrote: > Getting the camper ready for the last trip to the beach for fall break. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 28, 2010, at 5:50 PM, "Pete Peters" > wrote: > >> Rewiring the first floor. Who has time for cars? >> >> Pete >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net >> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Al >> Boettcher >> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 3:10 PM >> To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Subject: [Roadsters] Test >> >> This is a test of the emergency broadcast system >> Is anyone out there. >> SETI >> ________________________________________ From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Sep 28 19:14:29 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:14:29 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Test In-Reply-To: References: <7F57D3B3F3BF404691B1214B00B16D54@hercules> <002201cb5f5f$acf0dfb0$06d29f10$@net> <8C3F2F8D-5BFF-482B-9957-F43139C0D6FA@nasa.gov> Message-ID: <002e01cb5f73$aaf805d0$00e81170$@net> He can help you nowb&.or sell it later at the estate sale. Survey sezb&..DO IT NOW! Pete From: Fred Katz [mailto:roadster at astound.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 6:07 PM To: Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED10) Cc: Pete Peters; Datsun Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Test Helping my son-in-law stain the new bookcase I built for my daughter. So while the clear sealer is drying, he looks at my '68 frame-off body sitting up on a wood frame and says: "I got time, how about we start tearing that body apart and reclaim space in your garage!". A shiver went up my spine. It's been sitting there for 13 years, I've been busy with other things. He'll be back tomorrow, might go for it! Fred - So.SF On Sep 28, 2010, at 3:51 PM, "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED10)" wrote: Getting the camper ready for the last trip to the beach for fall break. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 28, 2010, at 5:50 PM, "Pete Peters" wrote: Rewiring the first floor. Who has time for cars? Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Al Boettcher Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 3:10 PM To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Test This is a test of the emergency broadcast system Is anyone out there. SETI ________________________________________ From gcallahan at prodigy.net Tue Sep 28 19:20:06 2010 From: gcallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:20:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Test In-Reply-To: <7F57D3B3F3BF404691B1214B00B16D54@hercules> Message-ID: <959641.88595.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Nope! Nobody out here. Just don't look behind the curtain. ;~) Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon No longer the owner of: 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 --- On Tue, 9/28/10, Al Boettcher wrote: From: Al Boettcher Subject: [Roadsters] Test To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, September 28, 2010, 3:10 PM This is a test of the emergency broadcast system Is anyone out there. SETI ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcallahan at prodigy.net From kemp_l at hotmail.com Tue Sep 28 19:20:21 2010 From: kemp_l at hotmail.com (Kemp LaMunyon Sr.) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:20:21 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Test In-Reply-To: References: <7F57D3B3F3BF404691B1214B00B16D54@hercules>, <002201cb5f5f$acf0dfb0$06d29f10$@net>, <8C3F2F8D-5BFF-482B-9957-F43139C0D6FA@nasa.gov>, Message-ID: Oh man, A Dream come true. I would be all over that.. Thanks Kemp > > "I got time, how about we start tearing that body apart and reclaim space in > your garage!". A shiver went up my spine. It's been sitting there for 13 > years, I've been busy with other things. He'll be back tomorrow, might go for > it! From roadster at astound.net Tue Sep 28 20:02:43 2010 From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:02:43 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Test In-Reply-To: References: <7F57D3B3F3BF404691B1214B00B16D54@hercules>, <002201cb5f5f$acf0dfb0$06d29f10$@net>, <8C3F2F8D-5BFF-482B-9957-F43139C0D6FA@nasa.gov>, Message-ID: <82FACC7D-A104-4914-B7C0-19AB0C3114BE@astound.net> I'm starting to think my son-in-law is thinking about how this helps him - he's already storing one of his cars in my driveway, and he has a 2nd old car. He swaps them every once in a while - '49 Ford coupe and '66 Chevelle SS coupe. Maybe he wants one garaged. I have 3 roadsters, so maybe it's time to let one go. Fred 66 2L, 70 1600, 68 2L On Sep 28, 2010, at 6:20 PM, Kemp LaMunyon Sr. wrote: > Oh man, > A Dream come true. I would be all over that.. > > > Thanks > Kemp > >> >> "I got time, how about we start tearing that body apart and reclaim space > in >> your garage!". A shiver went up my spine. It's been sitting there for 13 >> years, I've been busy with other things. He'll be back tomorrow, might go > for >> it! > ______________ From northgaroadsters at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 09:52:57 2010 From: northgaroadsters at gmail.com (P C) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:52:57 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Parting Out 1966 SPL311 r16 Message-ID: <7A3D01C3-C258-4783-BEF5-814200F9A66B@gmail.com> Parts for sale Alternator Distributor Radiator Radiator support Radiator hoses top and bottom Overflow tank Airbox with filter Intake with carbs Fuel pump Filler neck with breather hose Gas tank Gas tank straps J hooks Sending unit cover Center console Glove box Glove box door Glove box door lock Fuel gauge Amp gauge Water temp gauge Oil pressure gauge Tachometer Dash Switches-- Lights, fog, wiper, heat Choke cable Ignition with key Dimmer Driver Seat Pass. Seat Steering wheel 14" steel wheels Wiper arms Wiper motor Water pump Thermostat Thermostat housing Fan Fan pulley Crank pulley Hardtop Hood Doors Door Windows Quarter windows Quarter window holder driver Quarter window pivot driver Quarter window frame driver Window regulators Window channel rear Window holder Roll up handle Door handles outside Door handles inside Door pull handles Door locks Door latch passenger Bodyside door striker latches Door hinges Front grille Vent grille Trunk Trunk garnish Fenders Trunk hold bars Seat belts Headlights Headlight buckets Headlight bezels Front directionals and bezels Tail light housings and bezels Antenna Door sill plates Rocker sill plates Inside rocker trim 6 pieces R16 Crankshaft Camshaft Lifters Rods Caps Bearings 4speed transmission Driveshaft Header In.ex. Gasket Starter motor Clutch Photos can be viewed here picasaweb.google.com/101278287028344322083 Email any questions to ClassicAutoRecycling at yahoo.com Thanks From roadsters311 at rogers.com Wed Sep 29 14:46:19 2010 From: roadsters311 at rogers.com (Al Boettcher) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 16:46:19 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] A funny thing happened on the way to the Glen Message-ID: <34DF4236C8934AAAADFC480FC22F8282@hercules> Hi..This year I did not make it to the Glen..some 40 miles short my car broke three rear Nascar studs..I had the car towed home..back to Canada...I am presently dis assembling the rear end...so far the axle seems ok..the splines look good..nothing in the oil when I drained it. next is to drop the diff....Just glad it happend in Geneva and not on the 90... I will update later in trying to see what happend...I am also going to have the wheel checked for balance...all the weights are there ... Al Boetther 68 solex NOTMGB From roadsters311 at rogers.com Tue Sep 28 16:37:56 2010 From: roadsters311 at rogers.com (Al Boettcher) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:37:56 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Breakdown on the way to the Glen Message-ID: <8081C3C7C97C4009A02A4164A08B8B39@hercules> I was on my way to the Glen two weeksago for the east coast reggatta and Vintage race festival held there each year in Sept.. less the 60 miles and pulling off to the 14from the 90 I heard a clunk clunk sound from the rear end. I pulled over on the off ramp..stopped the car and took a look I first thought I had a loose rear wheel. When I checked the right rear ..I noticed two off my wheel nuts were missing with no stud..at first I thought the nuts came loose and the stud worked it way back in. On closer inspection I notice that the studs had sheared off opposite from each other ..I jacked up the right wheel and it was still tight with the remaining two nuts holding the wheel on ..when rotating the wheel I heard a noise from the diff end.. I rotated the drive shaft and noticed a noise also...I managed to drive the car into Geneva which is at the north end of the lake with Watkins glen at the other end...less than an hours drive. when in town another stud broke..but I managed to limp it to the side of the road ...A Ontarian stopped and offered asistance...I was still trying to figure out what went wrong...how bad was the damage. In the end I had it towed home the 274 miles of which 170 were on the US side. Good thing I renewed my CAA as it only cost me the extra passed 100 miles for the tow . Back in Canada it was free....I have now disassembled the right rear wheel axle..I was hoping to see some damage or indication what the problem was..I drained the diff oil..hoping to find some broken bits but nothing on the magnet... I bit of retrospect...I have NASCAR studs on the car with two 1/4 in spacers on each wheel..due to the offset of the Wanabees . The wheel spacers have elongated holes not to the extact spacing for the studs..when I tighten them up I make sure the center is centered to the opening in the wheel. I had to drill out the regular holes to accept the larger studs..The holes may not have been exact center to the original stud holes but he wheel went on a ok... Next I am going to pull the diff and check this out...in the mean time has any one had this problem... I am just glad it happend when off the 90 which at the time I was crusing at 79 mph before exiting ...IF I was still on the 90 and the wheel came off ...I may not be writing this. I guess more tear down will hopefully give me a clue what broke or came out of aligment to break the studs.. The drum had cracks in the hole openings due to the shearing action..There had to be a lot of force of some sort to break the stud...the axle end was ok...I tapped out the studs there is no cracks the the axle... Any hints as to what forces of nature caused this.. I will update later when the diff is out...I hope I find the problem ...its been bugging me for two weeks since I have never come across a breakage like this... The splines on the axle showed no signs of scaring or missing splines.. I am going to have my wheel checked for balancing ..the weights are still on the wheel from when I balanced them. Any thoughts out there. Al Boettcher 68 solex NOTMGB From mantolik at oh.rr.com Thu Sep 30 05:58:16 2010 From: mantolik at oh.rr.com (Mark) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 07:58:16 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Vibration Message-ID: <4CA47B58.8030303@oh.rr.com> First, thanks to everyone on this list that helped me sort out this problem! All great advice from people with terrific knowledge of Roadsters! Special thanks to those that forwarded me spare parts to try as well! A stock mount (a loaner) completely cured the problem. It was suggested that a standard trans mount - the one the urethane unit replaces (I used a 69 Chevelle big block mount) - may also work. It takes a bit more modifying than the urethane unit, but it is very do-able. The same mods to the cross member are required, so for me, this was essentially a bolt in operation since I had done those mods already. The vibration is gone! I am not sure if the combination of urethane motor mounts and trans mount caused this to be apparent in my application as I left the motor mounts alone, but others that have used the urethane unit have not reported problems, so that is a possible cause as well. This could be a third option for a trans mount - and it is less than $10 at most auto parts stores. Again, many thanks to all of you and I hope this helps someone else in the future! Mark -Ohio From pat at hornesystemstx.com Thu Sep 30 08:06:07 2010 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 09:06:07 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Breakdown on the way to the Glen In-Reply-To: <8081C3C7C97C4009A02A4164A08B8B39@hercules> References: <8081C3C7C97C4009A02A4164A08B8B39@hercules> Message-ID: <4CA4994F.3040303@hornesystemstx.com> Al, This is a long shot, but you might have gotten one of the studs off it's intended location when you drilled the larger holes. Put the axle on a lathe and check the indexing to see that the holes are 90 deg. apart, and are in a circle centered on the axle bearing surface. I'm not familiar with the NASCAR parts. What is their quality? Could it be that there is a groove built into them where your studs sheared? Also, check you remaining stud for any signs of a crack or bend. Look at the studs on the other wheel too. If the wheel spacers are not centered on the studs, when the lug nuts are tightened down there may be a stress put onside of the side of the stud where the spacer is closer to the stud, while the other side of the stud will be causing the wheel to bend because it is not supported as solidly as the other side. This could cause the side of the stud hole to be bent in until the lug nut torque is correct, which could put higher than expected torque on the side of the stud where the spacer is closer. This is just a guess, and makes me want to go check the spacers on the front of my 67.5! I used Dorman studs from a Corvair, I think, when I needed longer studs. Please let us know what you find. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Al Boettcher, On 9/28/2010 5:37 PM: > > I bit of retrospect...I have NASCAR studs on the car > with two 1/4 in spacers on each wheel..due to the offset of the Wanabees . The > wheel spacers have elongated holes > not to the extact spacing for the studs..when I tighten them > up I make sure the center is centered to the opening in the > wheel. I had to drill out the regular holes to accept the larger studs..The > holes may not have been exact center to the > original stud holes but he wheel went on a ok... > > Al Boettcher > 68 solex NOTMGB > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/pat at hornesystemstx.com > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From ljordan704 at netscape.net Thu Sep 30 10:23:45 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:23:45 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Vibration In-Reply-To: <4CA47B58.8030303@oh.rr.com> References: <4CA47B58.8030303@oh.rr.com> Message-ID: <8CD2ED2FD171971-1380-D07@webmail-d060.sysops.aol.com> Mark, What was your fix exactly? Was it a OEM mount or another? Sorry not quite clear to me. Thanks, Linda -----Original Message----- From: Mark To: roadster list Sent: Thu, Sep 30, 2010 4:58 am Subject: [Roadsters] Vibration First, thanks to everyone on this list that helped me sort out this problem! All great advice from people with terrific knowledge of Roadsters! Special thanks to those that forwarded me spare parts to try as well! A stock mount (a loaner) completely cured the problem. It was suggested that a standard trans mount - the one the urethane unit replaces (I used a 69 Chevelle big block mount) - may also work. It takes a bit more modifying than the urethane unit, but it is very do-able. The same mods to the cross member are required, so for me, this was essentially a bolt in operation since I had done those mods already. The vibration is gone! I am not sure if the combination of urethane motor mounts and trans mount caused this to be apparent in my application as I left the motor mounts alone, but others that have used the urethane unit have not reported problems, so that is a possible cause as well. This could be a third option for a trans mount - and it is less than $10 at most auto parts stores. Again, many thanks to all of you and I hope this helps someone else in the future! Mark -Ohio ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.net From mantolik at oh.rr.com Thu Sep 30 11:00:05 2010 From: mantolik at oh.rr.com (Mark) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:00:05 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Vibration In-Reply-To: <8CD2ED2FD171971-1380-D07@webmail-d060.sysops.aol.com> References: <4CA47B58.8030303@oh.rr.com> <8CD2ED2FD171971-1380-D07@webmail-d060.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4CA4C215.6050403@oh.rr.com> The fix was to use a mount other than the urethane - sorry about not being clear......my final trans mount is the chevy mount. I found that the stock mount that was loaned to me eliminated it completely...but since it was a loaner, it was suggested I try the chevy mount....and it also eliminated the vibration. In-between the 2, I went back to the ES mount (wanted to keep driving!) and the vibration returned. My best guess (guess being the operative word!) is that my combination of urethane motor mounts and the ES trans mount just didn't play together well (or they transmitted more vibration than I could live with). The softer mounts worked well. Hope this helps! On 9/30/2010 12:23 PM, ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: > Mark, > What was your fix exactly? Was it a OEM mount or another? > Sorry not quite clear to me. > Thanks, > Linda > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark > To: roadster list > Sent: Thu, Sep 30, 2010 4:58 am > Subject: [Roadsters] Vibration > > First, thanks to everyone on this list that helped me sort out this > problem! All great advice from people with terrific knowledge of > Roadsters! Special thanks to those that forwarded me spare parts to > try as well! > > A stock mount (a loaner) completely cured the problem. > It was suggested that a standard trans mount - the one the urethane > unit replaces (I used a 69 Chevelle big block mount) - may also work. > It takes a bit more modifying than the urethane unit, but it is very > do-able. The same mods to the cross member are required, so for me, > this was essentially a bolt in operation since I had done those mods > already. The vibration is gone! > > I am not sure if the combination of urethane motor mounts and trans > mount caused this to be apparent in my application as I left the motor > mounts alone, but others that have used the urethane unit have not > reported problems, so that is a possible cause as well. This could be > a third option for a trans mount - and it is less than $10 at most > auto parts stores. > > Again, many thanks to all of you and I hope this helps someone else in > the future! > > Mark > -Ohio > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.net From d_kroninger at hotmail.com Thu Sep 30 11:46:39 2010 From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:46:39 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Stripped screws Message-ID: Hey everyone, I am trying to remove the center console (arm rest) from my 68 1600 so I can remove the back piece of carpet. All four screws are really really tight. With some turning back and forth, I was able to get one out. I used PB blaster on the other three and was able to get them to move a bit, but they get stuck and I can no longer turn them. At this point the 3 remaining screw heads are stripped out pretty bad. I am at a loss as to how to get them out. The inside of the console is small so I can't get a dremmel in there to make a new slot for the screws, I can't really get pliers around them either. I want to replace the same console when I am done, so I don't want to wreck it. Any suggestions how I can get these screws out? Power tools will shred the heads even further since they are so tight. I am fine getting new screws, since I will have to anyway, so if the screws get wrecked, that is fine. The screws are philips head if that makes a difference. Thanks if advance for any help you can provide. Dan Kroninger 68 1600 Dairyland Datsuns From lpage at egginc.com Thu Sep 30 11:54:35 2010 From: lpage at egginc.com (Page, Lochlin) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:54:35 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Stripped screws In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <58AD6A8F7ACBAF438B94D3C17FF4EB7716A993285B@EGGEXMAILGAI01.services.egginc.com> Sound like you are going to have to buy a long drill bit sized to remove the heads. The fact that they are Phillips makes drilling the out easier, the bit will center on the Phillips pattern. Once the console is out of the way you can grip the remainder of the screw with vice grips. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dan Kroninger Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 11:47 AM To: Datsun Mailing List Subject: [Roadsters] Stripped screws Hey everyone, I am trying to remove the center console (arm rest) from my 68 1600 so I can remove the back piece of carpet. All four screws are really really tight. With some turning back and forth, I was able to get one out. I used PB blaster on the other three and was able to get them to move a bit, but they get stuck and I can no longer turn them. At this point the 3 remaining screw heads are stripped out pretty bad. I am at a loss as to how to get them out. The inside of the console is small so I can't get a dremmel in there to make a new slot for the screws, I can't really get pliers around them either. I want to replace the same console when I am done, so I don't want to wreck it. Any suggestions how I can get these screws out? Power tools will shred the heads even further since they are so tight. I am fine getting new screws, since I will have to anyway, so if the screws get wrecked, that is fine. The screws are philips head if that makes a difference. Thanks if advance for any help you can provide. Dan Kroninger 68 1600 Dairyland Datsuns ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/lpage at egginc.com From tputland at charter.net Thu Sep 30 12:01:42 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 11:01:42 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Stripped screws In-Reply-To: <58AD6A8F7ACBAF438B94D3C17FF4EB7716A993285B@EGGEXMAILGAI01.services.egginc.com> Message-ID: <20100930140142.RPMF7.11897050.root@mp12> And after you drill them out you can use my tap and die set to create new holes. Tim Dairyland Datsuns ---- "Page wrote: ============= Sound like you are going to have to buy a long drill bit sized to remove the heads. The fact that they are Phillips makes drilling the out easier, the bit will center on the Phillips pattern. Once the console is out of the way you can grip the remainder of the screw with vice grips. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dan Kroninger Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 11:47 AM To: Datsun Mailing List Subject: [Roadsters] Stripped screws Hey everyone, I am trying to remove the center console (arm rest) from my 68 1600 so I can remove the back piece of carpet. All four screws are really really tight. With some turning back and forth, I was able to get one out. I used PB blaster on the other three and was able to get them to move a bit, but they get stuck and I can no longer turn them. At this point the 3 remaining screw heads are stripped out pretty bad. I am at a loss as to how to get them out. The inside of the console is small so I can't get a dremmel in there to make a new slot for the screws, I can't really get pliers around them either. I want to replace the same console when I am done, so I don't want to wreck it. Any suggestions how I can get these screws out? Power tools will shred the heads even further since they are so tight. I am fine getting new screws, since I will have to anyway, so if the screws get wrecked, that is fine. The screws are philips head if that makes a difference. Thanks if advance for any help you can provide. Dan Kroninger 68 1600 Dairyland Datsuns ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/lpage at egginc.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From tom at datsun2000.com Thu Sep 30 13:59:45 2010 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:59:45 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Test Message-ID: Just sitting in a hotel room in Las Vegas waiting to unload the U-Haul into my new house tomorrow morning. Drove Mr. Hyde from Portland to Las Vegas in May and picked him up Tuesday. Yesterday I took Mr. Hyde into Bullhead City, AZ just for a nice outing. NO RAIN, and I love that. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde LAS VEGAS http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org -------- Any takers in the NW to take over the NOWROC web site? On 9/28/2010 3:10:03 PM, Al Boettcher (roadsters311 at rogers.com) wrote: > This is a test of the emergency broadcast system > Is anyone out there. > SETI > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun- > roadsters/tom at datsun2000.com From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Sep 30 15:04:09 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:04:09 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006a01cb60e3$0726b110$15741330$@net> Instead of not driving because of Pacific NW rain, etc, you'll not drive because of the heat. The moss between your toes should finally stop growing, too. Pete "actually sunny and 77 in Seattle today" -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Hendricksen Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 1:00 PM To: Roadster List; roadsters311 at rogers.com Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Test Just sitting in a hotel room in Las Vegas waiting to unload the U-Haul into my new house tomorrow morning. Drove Mr. Hyde from Portland to Las Vegas in May and picked him up Tuesday. Yesterday I took Mr. Hyde into Bullhead City, AZ just for a nice outing. NO RAIN, and I love that. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde LAS VEGAS http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org -------- Any takers in the NW to take over the NOWROC web site? On 9/28/2010 3:10:03 PM, Al Boettcher (roadsters311 at rogers.com) wrote: > This is a test of the emergency broadcast system > Is anyone out there. > SETI > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun- > roadsters/tom at datsun2000.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From d_kroninger at hotmail.com Thu Sep 30 16:41:22 2010 From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:41:22 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Vinyl pieces Message-ID: Hey everyone, I am dying the vinyl in my roadster. most of it is usable, with the exception of one piece. I am looking for the piece that goes over the right rear wheel well. It is two pieces of vinyl that is sewn together and glued to the wheel hump. The seat belt also attached through this piece. The one that I have is all dry rotten and breaks in my hands, so it is not really usable. Does anyone out there have one a part car that they could send me. It does not have to be perfect or red, because the dye should take care of it. Please let me know if you can help me out. Thanks,Dan68 1600 From fred.davidson at sympatico.ca Thu Sep 30 18:17:30 2010 From: fred.davidson at sympatico.ca (fred.davidson at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 00:17:30 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Stripped screws In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Dan: Try drilling the head of the screw with a drill bit just a little larger than the screw shaft. Don't get too aggressive, just be patient and the screw head will come off. The shaft may fall out the bottom or have to be drilled out with a bit the same size as the shaft. In the end you may have to use a slightly larger screw if the hole has been damaged with the bit. I have done this couple times with success. Fred > From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:46:39 -0500 > Subject: [Roadsters] Stripped screws > > Hey everyone, > > I am trying to remove the center console (arm rest) from my 68 1600 so I can > remove the back piece of carpet. All four screws are really really tight. > With some turning back and forth, I was able to get one out. I used PB > blaster on the other three and was able to get them to move a bit, but they > get stuck and I can no longer turn them. At this point the 3 remaining screw > heads are stripped out pretty bad. I am at a loss as to how to get them out. > The inside of the console is small so I can't get a dremmel in there to make a > new slot for the screws, I can't really get pliers around them either. I want > to replace the same console when I am done, so I don't want to wreck it. Any > suggestions how I can get these screws out? Power tools will shred the heads > even further since they are so tight. I am fine getting new screws, since I > will have to anyway, so if the screws get wrecked, that is fine. The screws > are philips head if that makes a difference. > > Thanks if advance for any help you can provide. > > Dan Kroninger > 68 1600 > Dairyland Datsuns > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/fred.davidson at sympatic o.ca From dicktill at hotmail.com Thu Sep 30 18:55:03 2010 From: dicktill at hotmail.com (Dick Tillinger) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 20:55:03 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Stripped screws In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Dan, Try a left-handed drill bit, or a special screw remover such as this one listed by Sears: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00952156000P?vName=Tools&cName=Powe rToolAccessories&sName=Drill%20Sharpeners%20&%20Attachments&sid=IDx20070921x 00003a&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=00952156000P "Craftsman 6 pc. Power Extractor and Damaged Screw Remover " Use a hex extension on the bit (such as one used to drive in dry wall screws) so that the drill doesn't hit the console. Of course, run the drill backwards. Good luck, Dick -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of fred.davidson at sympatico.ca Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 8:18 PM To: d_kroninger at hotmail.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stripped screws Hi Dan: Try drilling the head of the screw with a drill bit just a little larger than the screw shaft. Don't get too aggressive, just be patient and the screw head will come off. The shaft may fall out the bottom or have to be drilled out with a bit the same size as the shaft. In the end you may have to use a slightly larger screw if the hole has been damaged with the bit. I have done this couple times with success. Fred From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:46:39 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Stripped screws Hey everyone, I am trying to remove the center console (arm rest) from my 68 1600 so I can remove the back piece of carpet. All four screws are really really tight. With some turning back and forth, I was able to get one out. I used PB blaster on the other three and was able to get them to move a bit, but they get stuck and I can no longer turn them. At this point the 3 remaining screw heads are stripped out pretty bad. I am at a loss as to how to get them out. The inside of the console is small so I can't get a dremmel in there to make a new slot for the screws, I can't really get pliers around them either. I want to replace the same console when I am done, so I don't want to wreck it. Any suggestions how I can get these screws out? Power tools will shred the heads even further since they are so tight. I am fine getting new screws, since I will have to anyway, so if the screws get wrecked, that is fine. The screws are philips head if that makes a difference. Thanks if advance for any help you can provide. Dan Kroninger 68 1600 Dairyland Datsuns From pat at hornesystemstx.com Thu Sep 30 18:58:25 2010 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 19:58:25 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Stripped screws In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4CA53231.5040409@hornesystemstx.com> Dan, There is an impact screwdriver that I used to use on aluminum screws that had welded themselves into aluminum parts on motorcycle engines. You hit the back of the took with a hammer, which drives the screwdriver tip tightly into the screw head and also turns the screw about 1/8 turn. It works wonders, even on chewed up screw heads. If you have to drill out the screws, try to find left hand twist drill bits so that with the heat and vibration of drilling may just back out the remains of the screw. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Dan Kroninger, On 9/30/2010 12:46 PM: > Hey everyone, > > I am trying to remove the center console (arm rest) from my 68 1600 so I can > remove the back piece of carpet. All four screws are really really tight. > With some turning back and forth, I was able to get one out. I used PB > blaster on the other three and was able to get them to move a bit, but they > get stuck and I can no longer turn them. At this point the 3 remaining screw > heads are stripped out pretty bad. I am at a loss as to how to get them out. > The inside of the console is small so I can't get a dremmel in there to make a > new slot for the screws, I can't really get pliers around them either. I want > to replace the same console when I am done, so I don't want to wreck it. Any > suggestions how I can get these screws out? Power tools will shred the heads > even further since they are so tight. I am fine getting new screws, since I > will have to anyway, so if the screws get wrecked, that is fine. The screws > are philips head if that makes a difference. > > Thanks if advance for any help you can provide. > > Dan Kroninger > 68 1600 > Dairyland Datsuns > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/pat at hornesystemstx.com > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT --