From lmflaming at comcast.net  Fri Oct  1 07:16:04 2010
From: lmflaming at comcast.net (lmflaming at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 13:16:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] What should i do?
Message-ID: <346658134.1049606.1285938964019.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Hello Everyone

I have a fun dilemma for myself to solve. I thoughtB I would get some input
from those that want to contribute. I have a 66 parts car rear end that I made
into a trailer that is licensed as one but haven't finished doing bodywork and
getting things re-chromed, itB has all its parts and is street legal. I also
have a 70 I am parting out and thought about doing the same to it and selling
it.B But I have seen couches that are made out of fake 59 Cadillac's or other
cars rear endsB and thoughtB I may do that and put it in a room in the house.
Probably the room I have for my grand kids.B Although all the chrome parts
need re-chroming I could just paint them silver along with painting the body a
color. I have the back part of the rear interior left over and was going to
sell it but I could put it back into the car. I think I may be able to modify
the interior door panels and mount them to plywood and use them on the sides
of the trunk area. I canB make simple seat cushions for the back and bottom of
the trunkB to sit on.The trunk deck lid could be put on and there would be a
toy box or storage space. Nothing on the body would be destroyed and it could
later be used as a trailer ifB I were to put it on a trailer frame.



Well what does everyone think.

Larry

From keithddowning at yahoo.com  Fri Oct  1 07:39:12 2010
From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 06:39:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Test
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You went to Bullhead City?  On purpose?  I thought that's where things went to
die.   Man, you were Jonesin to drive Mr Hyde.

Keith
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To: Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>; roadsters311 at rogers.com
Sent: Thu, September 30, 2010 12:59:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Test

Just
sitting in a hotel room in Las Vegas waiting to unload the U-Haul into my
new
house tomorrow morning.  Drove Mr. Hyde from Portland to Las Vegas in May
and
picked him up Tuesday.  Yesterday I took Mr. Hyde into Bullhead City, AZ
just
for a nice outing.  NO RAIN, and I love that.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
LAS
VEGAS
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org  -------- Any takers in
the NW to take over the NOWROC
web site?


On 9/28/2010 3:10:03 PM, Al
Boettcher (roadsters311 at rogers.com) wrote:
> This is a test of the emergency
broadcast system
> Is anyone out there.
> SETI
>
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From aultgc at att.net  Fri Oct  1 11:04:55 2010
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 10:04:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] What should i do?
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Larry,

It's not something I would ever do, but I think you gotta do what
pleases you, 
and the heck with what anyone else thinks.

Gary
To: Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 8:16:04 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] What should i do?
Hello Everyone

I have a fun dilemma for myself to solve. I thoughtB I would
get some input
from those that want to contribute. I have a 66 parts car rear
end that I made
into a trailer that is licensed as one but haven't finished
doing bodywork and
getting things re-chromed, itB has all its parts and is
street legal. I also
have a 70 I am parting out and thought about doing the
same to it and selling
it.B But I have seen couches that are made out of fake
59 Cadillac's or other
cars rear endsB and thoughtB I may do that and put it
in a room in the house.
Probably the room I have for my grand kids.B Although
all the chrome parts
need re-chroming I could just paint them silver along
with painting the body a
color. I have the back part of the rear interior left
over and was going to
sell it but I could put it back into the car. I think I
may be able to modify
the interior door panels and mount them to plywood and
use them on the sides
of the trunk area. I canB make simple seat cushions for
the back and bottom of
the trunkB to sit on.The trunk deck lid could be put on
and there would be a
toy box or storage space. Nothing on the body would be
destroyed and it could
later be used as a trailer ifB I were to put it on a
trailer frame.



Well what does everyone think.

Larry
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From greydog300zx at yahoo.com  Fri Oct  1 11:08:08 2010
From: greydog300zx at yahoo.com (dan russell)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 10:08:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] What should i do?
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I like the trailer idea Larry.  I've seen a few hot rods with trailers made
from 
the back half of the car.  When done right (basically the trailer looks
just 
like the car, all lights work, bumpers, wheels, tires, etc) it makes
quite an 
impression.  Didn't the Plymouth Prowler have a matching trailer
offered?

At one time, Bruce Corbin (makes motorcycle seats) was offering a
line of "hot 
rod" furniture.  '57 Chevy, Corvette, etc that were designed to
be couches or 
chairs.  Pretty cool.  I always thought that if I ever got the
dream garage with 
the pool table and theater upstairs that I'd do something
similar.  
Unfortunately, I'm still working on my first million (not much to
show for it so 
far) so that's a long way (perhaps another life) off.

Be sure
to post pictures.
 
Thanks,  Dan




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From:
"lmflaming at comcast.net" <lmflaming at comcast.net>
To: Roadster List
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 6:16:04 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] What should i do?

Hello Everyone

I have a fun dilemma
for myself to solve. I thoughtB I would get some input
from those that want to
contribute. I have a 66 parts car rear end that I made
into a trailer that is
licensed as one but haven't finished doing bodywork and
getting things
re-chromed, itB has all its parts and is street legal. I also
have a 70 I am
parting out and thought about doing the same to it and selling
it.B But I have
seen couches that are made out of fake 59 Cadillac's or other
cars rear endsB
and thoughtB I may do that and put it in a room in the house.
Probably the
room I have for my grand kids.B Although all the chrome parts
need re-chroming
I could just paint them silver along with painting the body a
color. I have
the back part of the rear interior left over and was going to
sell it but I
could put it back into the car. I think I may be able to modify
the interior
door panels and mount them to plywood and use them on the sides
of the trunk
area. I canB make simple seat cushions for the back and bottom of
the trunkB
to sit on.The trunk deck lid could be put on and there would be a
toy box or
storage space. Nothing on the body would be destroyed and it could
later be
used as a trailer ifB I were to put it on a trailer frame.



Well what does
everyone think.

Larry
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From lmflaming at comcast.net  Fri Oct  1 12:02:38 2010
From: lmflaming at comcast.net (lmflaming at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 18:02:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] seat belts
Message-ID: <1276008336.1066017.1285956158982.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Does anyone know if the seat belts are the same in a 66 as in a 70. 

Larry 

From sandhoff at csus.edu  Fri Oct  1 12:12:05 2010
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 11:12:05 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] seat belts
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> Does anyone know if the seat belts are the same in a 66 as in a 70. 

The later vehicles include a shoulder belt, that hooks into the buckle.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From noji-1 at pacbell.net  Fri Oct  1 12:29:44 2010
From: noji-1 at pacbell.net (dana nojima)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 11:29:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] [RE] what should I do?
Message-ID: <137182.76636.qm@web83403.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

On a similar but different note - I've seen rocking chairs built out of car
seats.  they use tires for the rocking portion and some type of spring steel a
stopper/rocker. 


I've wanted to do this with some of the Roadster seats that
I've got sitting 
aournd. 


dana

noji-1 at pacbell.net

From umccullough at gmail.com  Fri Oct  1 12:54:14 2010
From: umccullough at gmail.com (Urias McCullough)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 11:54:14 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] What should i do?
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On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 6:16 AM,  <lmflaming at comcast.net> wrote:
> Well what does everyone think.

I think I could really use a rear passenger quarter panel + inner
fender off a '70 2000 to fix up my '69 ;)

- Urias

From roadster at astound.net  Fri Oct  1 13:43:57 2010
From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 12:43:57 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] What should i do?
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I remember us taking the kids to Universal's amusement park in Florida, must
have been the late 1980s. They had an outdoor restaurant, maybe called the
Drive-In Restaurant. All the tables were built inside of real cars from the
1950s. These were'nt complete cars, they were modified and shrunk the front
and rears. But made from the real thing. Had working headlights and
taillights. We sat in a 1957 Chevy for our meal. Next time we went in the 90s
the restaurant was gone. You could make the roadster into a breakfast nook in
your dining room.

But I think your grandkids will enjoy the roadster couch/toy-chest.

Fred -S.SF

On Oct 1, 2010, at 6:16 AM, lmflaming at comcast.net wrote:

> Hello Everyone
>
> I have a fun dilemma for myself to solve. I thoughtB I would get some input
> from those that want to contribute. I have a 66 parts car rear end that I
made
> into a trailer that is licensed as one but haven't finished doing bodywork
and
> getting things re-chromed, itB has all its parts and is street legal. I
also
> have a 70 I am parting out and thought about doing the same to it and
selling
> it.B But I have seen couches that are made out of fake 59 Cadillac's or
other
> cars rear endsB and thoughtB I may do that and put it in a room in the
house.
> Probably the room I have for my grand kids.B Although all the chrome parts
> need re-chroming I could just paint them silver along with painting the body
a
> color. I have the back part of the rear interior left over and was going to
> sell it but I could put it back into the car. I think I may be able to
modify
> the interior door panels and mount them to plywood and use them on the
sides
> of the trunk area. I canB make simple seat cushions for the back and bottom
of
> the trunkB to sit on.The trunk deck lid could be put on and there would be
a
> toy box or storage space. Nothing on the body would be destroyed and it
could
> later be used as a trailer ifB I were to put it on a trailer frame.
>
>
>
> Well what does everyone think.
>
> Larry
> ________________________________________

From arthurklin888 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct  1 17:19:41 2010
From: arthurklin888 at yahoo.com (arthur lin)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 16:19:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] seat belts
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Message-ID: <712344.86270.qm@web51003.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

'66 is lapbelt (2 point) . I believe '70 has shoulder belt.  

--- On Fri, 10/1/10, lmflaming at comcast.net <lmflaming at comcast.net> wrote:


From: lmflaming at comcast.net <lmflaming at comcast.net>
Subject: [Roadsters] seat belts
To: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, October 1, 2010, 11:02 AM


Does anyone know if the seat belts are the same in a 66 as in a 70.

Larry
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From dave at eastcoastroadster.com  Fri Oct  1 21:38:10 2010
From: dave at eastcoastroadster.com (dave)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 23:38:10 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] What should i do?
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I would make it a couch AND a trailer, able to be disconnected from the
trailer tongue to use as furniture.  When you get to the show, and you have
a couch, and use the as a trunk a cooler.
Dave Brisco

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary and Cindy Ault [mailto:aultgc at att.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 1:05 PM
To: lmflaming at comcast.net; Roadster List
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What should i do?

Larry,

It's not something I would ever do, but I think you gotta do what
pleases you, 
and the heck with what anyone else thinks.

Gary
To: Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 8:16:04 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] What should i do?
Hello Everyone

I have a fun dilemma for myself to solve. I thoughtB I would
get some input
from those that want to contribute. I have a 66 parts car rear
end that I made
into a trailer that is licensed as one but haven't finished
doing bodywork and
getting things re-chromed, itB has all its parts and is
street legal. I also
have a 70 I am parting out and thought about doing the
same to it and selling
it.B But I have seen couches that are made out of fake
59 Cadillac's or other
cars rear endsB and thoughtB I may do that and put it
in a room in the house.
Probably the room I have for my grand kids.B Although
all the chrome parts
need re-chroming I could just paint them silver along
with painting the body a
color. I have the back part of the rear interior left
over and was going to
sell it but I could put it back into the car. I think I
may be able to modify
the interior door panels and mount them to plywood and
use them on the sides
of the trunk area. I canB make simple seat cushions for
the back and bottom of
the trunkB to sit on.The trunk deck lid could be put on
and there would be a
toy box or storage space. Nothing on the body would be
destroyed and it could
later be used as a trailer ifB I were to put it on a
trailer frame.



Well what does everyone think.

Larry
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Fri Oct  1 22:51:26 2010
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 21:51:26 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] seat belts
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my 70 has only lap belts - and in any case shoulder belts (unless you have
something to keep them suspended HIGH, like a roll bar) will only damage your
back due to compresion. Of course it will stop you from denting the wheel in
low speed crash.

FWIW

Suitcase Peter

> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 16:19:41 -0700
> From: arthurklin888 at yahoo.com
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; lmflaming at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] seat belts
>
> '66 is lapbelt (2 point) . I believe '70 has shoulder belt.
>
> --- On Fri, 10/1/10, lmflaming at comcast.net <lmflaming at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> From: lmflaming at comcast.net <lmflaming at comcast.net>
> Subject: [Roadsters] seat belts
> To: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Date: Friday, October 1, 2010, 11:02 AM
>
>
> Does anyone know if the seat belts are the same in a 66 as in a 70.
>
> Larry
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From strahlfamily at comcast.net  Sun Oct  3 13:56:34 2010
From: strahlfamily at comcast.net (strahlfamily at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 19:56:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Windshield Washer Squirter
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Hey, I have a 70 1600 and my squirters don't work. Anybody have a clue to how that might be fixed? It won't pass state safety inspection because of this. 



Paul S 

From escanlon at wa-net.com  Sun Oct  3 14:12:30 2010
From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 13:12:30 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Windshield Washer Squirter
References: <1143832742.1602136.1286135794573.JavaMail.root@sz0142a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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The 70's used an electric wiper washer motor.
Are you getting juice to the motor?
If so, is the motor pumping the water?
If not, is the switch operating as it should?
     i.e. are you getting current at the washer motor connections when the 
switch is actuated?

FWIW
E


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Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 12:56 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Windshield Washer Squirter


> Hey, I have a 70 1600 and my squirters don't work. Anybody have a clue to 
> how that might be fixed? It won't pass state safety inspection because of 
> this.
>
>
>
> Paul S
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sun Oct  3 14:36:35 2010
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 13:36:35 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Windshield Washer Squirter
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You're kidding. Which state requires this?

Pete

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strahlfamily at comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 12:57 PM
To: peter harrison
Cc: datsun
Subject: [Roadsters] Windshield Washer Squirter

Hey, I have a 70 1600 and my squirters don't work. Anybody have a clue to
how that might be fixed? It won't pass state safety inspection because of
this. 



Paul S 
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From aultgc at att.net  Sun Oct  3 14:52:03 2010
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 15:52:03 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] '67-1/2 Door Escutcheon Plate Bumpers
Message-ID: <BE419CE695A04894901A73EE95424D6C@gaxp1>

If I am not the only person out here (formerly) running a '67-1/2 car with
little rubber bumpers missing from the door handle escutcheon plates, I have
good news for you.  Through a interesting coincidence of events, I happened
across some which look like they were made for the escutcheons at an Ace
Hardware store.  They popped into the holes, and fit perfectly.  Never having
seen originals, I cannot say if these are exactly the same, but the look right
and work right.

The store is not very convenient to me, so I don't go there often, but just
noticed they have an incredible array of specialty fasteners, fittings and
do-hickeys.  Where most places have part of one aisle dedicated to Hillman (or
similar) products, this place has 1-1/2 aisles.  I have never seen the
particular display in which I found the bumpers in any hardware store, and I
have looked through a lot of such displays.

Now, you may ask "Why, dummy, did you not note the manufacturer and part
number at the time?".  To that I have no good answer, but, if anyone is
interested, I'll check this week.  (I did note that the manufacturer is not a
name I recognized.)  I am willing to purchase these items ($1.05 each -- 98
cents plus Indiana's 7 percent sales tax) and mail them to you for the
purchase price plus $1.00.

Gary

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Sun Oct  3 14:53:12 2010
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 16:53:12 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Windshield Washer Squirter
In-Reply-To: <000001cb633a$ac845dc0$058d1940$@net>
References: <SNT106-W3674EA08B1C953716A4006DF6A0@phx.gbl>
	<1143832742.1602136.1286135794573.JavaMail.root@sz0142a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<000001cb633a$ac845dc0$058d1940$@net>
Message-ID: <003701cb633c$fef7c770$fce75650$@net>

  Run the hose to the interior and hook the bag up on the floor.  Step on
the bag when you need a squirt!

  Or yank a pump out of any junk yard car and wire it in.

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 4:37 PM
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Windshield Washer Squirter

You're kidding. Which state requires this?

Pete

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
strahlfamily at comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 12:57 PM
To: peter harrison
Cc: datsun
Subject: [Roadsters] Windshield Washer Squirter

Hey, I have a 70 1600 and my squirters don't work. Anybody have a clue to
how that might be fixed? It won't pass state safety inspection because of
this. 



Paul S 
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From gcallahan at prodigy.net  Sun Oct  3 14:59:27 2010
From: gcallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 13:59:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] '67-1/2 Door Escutcheon Plate Bumpers
In-Reply-To: <BE419CE695A04894901A73EE95424D6C@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <398284.22524.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I almost always found the missing screws, bolts, nuts, and other miscellaneous
parts I needed, at my local Ace Hardware store.  Generally had much poorer
luck at the giant Home Depot.  Also Ace usually has better service and more
knowledgeable staff.   :~)


 
Gary Callahan
Beaverton, Oregon
 
Former owner of:
1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster
SPL311-18665

--- On Sun, 10/3/10, Gary and Cindy Ault <aultgc at att.net> wrote:


From: Gary and Cindy Ault <aultgc at att.net>
Subject: [Roadsters] '67-1/2 Door Escutcheon Plate Bumpers
To: "Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 1:52 PM


If I am not the only person out here (formerly) running a '67-1/2 car with
little rubber bumpers missing from the door handle escutcheon plates, I have
good news for you.  Through a interesting coincidence of events, I happened
across some which look like they were made for the escutcheons at an Ace
Hardware store.  They popped into the holes, and fit perfectly.  Never having
seen originals, I cannot say if these are exactly the same, but the look
right
and work right.

The store is not very convenient to me, so I don't go there often, but just
noticed they have an incredible array of specialty fasteners, fittings and
do-hickeys.  Where most places have part of one aisle dedicated to Hillman
(or
similar) products, this place has 1-1/2 aisles.  I have never seen the
particular display in which I found the bumpers in any hardware store, and I
have looked through a lot of such displays.

Now, you may ask "Why, dummy, did you not note the manufacturer and part
number at the time?".  To that I have no good answer, but, if anyone is
interested, I'll check this week.  (I did note that the manufacturer is not a
name I recognized.)  I am willing to purchase these items ($1.05 each -- 98
cents plus Indiana's 7 percent sales tax) and mail them to you for the
purchase price plus $1.00.

Gary
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From escarcega at cox.net  Sun Oct  3 22:34:34 2010
From: escarcega at cox.net (Marty Escarcega)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 21:34:34 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 67 Update
Message-ID: <000501cb637d$7351beb0$59f53c10$@net>

Kelsey and I started on the Roadster a bit today. Updated pictures here:

http://picasaweb.google.com/marty.escarcega/1967Datsun1600SP311Roadster#

 

Many thanks to those that have helped out tremendously with parts, advice
and knowledge!

 

We adjusted the valves today. They were too tight. Took compression
readings, 185ish front and back but about 160 in the 2 inner cylinders.
Doing a pressure test seems to reveal the rings are leaking. Iikely sticking
from about 20 years of sitting.

We also installed the donated thermostat tower, replaced the fuel lines and
new fuel filter under the hood.

 

In a couple of weeks, we hope to go through the brakes and install a new
clutch master

 

Marty & Kelsey

Mesa, AZ

From tom at datsun2000.com  Mon Oct  4 01:03:21 2010
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 00:03:21 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Windshield Washer Squirter
Message-ID: <596B113926324C3A897623527F7FC009@Compaq2>

When I drove Towncars the company I worked for also had an indoor auto
recycling facility for Honda and other japanese cars, including lately Nissan.
Since the cars were stacked next to the upstairs walkway to the office I
worked out of I often got a good look at the wiper motors on cars missing the
right front fender,  I think these motors could be adapted to our cars.  For
me, I just went to my favorite auto parts store and purchased a universal
windshield pump motor and mounted it next to the tank.  With a new line to the
spray nozzles it works great.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Las Vegas.... AT LAST
http://www,datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

On 10/3/2010 12:56:34 PM, strahlfamily at comcast.net wrote:
> Hey, I have a 70 1600 and my squirters
> don't work. Anybody have a clue to how that might be fixed? It won't pass
> state safety inspection because of this.
>
>
>
> Paul S
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From tom at datsun2000.com  Mon Oct  4 01:17:57 2010
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 00:17:57 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] seat belts
Message-ID: <491D84AC6B9F451F81EB11F33F2D8284@Compaq2>

Peter,

As one of the few, if not the only person on this list, who has had the fun of
riding a roadster straight into a tall cement curb at about 35 MPH after being
hit by a lady making a left turn and walking away with only a broken chest
cartillage (?), I can tell you that the shoulder belt is worth the trouble.  I
was doing about 50 at the time she hit the left side of my 68 roadster.  I can
also tell you that the frame holds up fairly well under such abuse, but there
may be numerous ripples in the floor board.  If you want to see the results of
the whole event go to www.datsun2000.com and you will see the car on the
opening page.

I would like to install dual shoulder belts in Mr. Hyde, but that has not
happened yet.  My chiropractor would like to see dual belts in ALL cars.  It
would be much better for people if they were not twisted and compressed as
hard as I was at the center of my chest.  That was in 1969, and while it does
not bother me now, If I let a chiropractor compress me through the chest it
can still hurt for months afterwards.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Las Vegas
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org


On 10/1/2010 9:51:26 PM, peter harrison (granvillecomputing at hotmail.com)
wrote:
> my 70 has only lap belts - and in any case shoulder belts (unless you
> have
> something to keep them suspended HIGH, like a roll bar) will only damage
> your
> back due to compresion. Of course it will stop you from denting the wheel
> in
> low speed crash.
>
> FWIW
>
> Suitcase Peter
>
> > Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 16:19:41 -0700
> > From: arthurklin888 at yahoo.com
> > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; lmflaming at comcast.net
> > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] seat belts
> >
> > '66 is lapbelt (2 point) . I believe '70 has shoulder belt.
> >
> > --- On Fri, 10/1/10, lmflaming at comcast.net <lmflaming at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: lmflaming at comcast.net <lmflaming at comcast.net>
> > Subject: [Roadsters] seat belts
> > To: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> > Date: Friday, October 1, 2010, 11:02 AM
> >
> >
> > Does anyone know if the seat belts are the same in a 66 as in a 70.
> >
> > Larry
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From gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com  Mon Oct  4 11:21:50 2010
From: gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com (Gordon Maness)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 12:21:50 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] squriters
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5340.1286176640.22018.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.5340.1286176640.22018.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <SNT137-w27F5C981681685326F063B26C0@phx.gbl>

After 40 years of dust and other small debris, the holes may be clogged.
Easy to clean, small screw driver to remove them, run the motor and flush it
all out.
The squirters can be cleaned by hand when removed.

CAREFUL the parts are very small and easly dropped.

g (with a fleet of 10+)

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Mon Oct  4 11:40:07 2010
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 13:40:07 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT Stolen Bugeye Ontario
Message-ID: <002e01cb63eb$30a38bc0$91eaa340$@net>

  Saw this posted on the Vintage Race list.  Not a datsun, but a car worth
finding for the owner.

Paul

Ohio

 

 

PLEASE HELP LOCATE OR SPREAD THE WORD THAT DINO'S BUG EYE HAS BEEN STOLEN!

FORWARD THIS LINK TO PASS THE WORD ABOUT THE CAR TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS
POSSIBLE.

 

http://twr00.webs.com/stolenracecar.htm

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Mon Oct  4 14:13:13 2010
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2010 16:13:13 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 67 Update
In-Reply-To: <000501cb637d$7351beb0$59f53c10$@net>
References: <000501cb637d$7351beb0$59f53c10$@net>
Message-ID: <8CD3217B521A5F3-10C8-39D6@Webmail-m120.sysops.aol.com>

 Way to go Kelsey! It's not brain surgery! You can do it! LOL

Linda








-----Original Message-----
From: Marty Escarcega <escarcega at cox.net>
To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Sun, Oct 3, 2010 9:34 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] 67 Update


Kelsey and I started on the Roadster a bit today. Updated pictures here:

http://picasaweb.google.com/marty.escarcega/1967Datsun1600SP311Roadster#



Many thanks to those that have helped out tremendously with parts, advice
and knowledge!



We adjusted the valves today. They were too tight. Took compression
readings, 185ish front and back but about 160 in the 2 inner cylinders.
Doing a pressure test seems to reveal the rings are leaking. Iikely sticking
from about 20 years of sitting.

We also installed the donated thermostat tower, replaced the fuel lines and
new fuel filter under the hood.



In a couple of weeks, we hope to go through the brakes and install a new
clutch master



Marty & Kelsey

Mesa, AZ
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Mon Oct  4 14:48:29 2010
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 13:48:29 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 67 Update
In-Reply-To: <8CD3217B521A5F3-10C8-39D6@Webmail-m120.sysops.aol.com>
References: <000501cb637d$7351beb0$59f53c10$@net>
	<8CD3217B521A5F3-10C8-39D6@Webmail-m120.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <003e01cb6405$803b11c0$80b13540$@net>

Agreed. Roadsters are Car 101.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
ljordan704 at netscape.net
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 1:13 PM
To: escarcega at cox.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 67 Update

Way to go Kelsey! It's not brain surgery! You can do it! LOL

Linda

From tputland at charter.net  Tue Oct  5 05:50:52 2010
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 4:50:52 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Windshield Washer Squirter
In-Reply-To: <1143832742.1602136.1286135794573.JavaMail.root@sz0142a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20101005075052.2CVJE.5501058.root@mp14>

I, for one, am still waiting to hear what state has this "safety inspection"....



---- strahlfamily at comcast.net wrote: 

=============
Hey, I have a 70 1600 and my squirters don't work. Anybody have a clue to how that might be fixed? It won't pass state safety inspection because of this. 



Paul S 
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Tue Oct  5 09:13:31 2010
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 08:13:31 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Windshield Washer Squirter
In-Reply-To: <20101005075052.2CVJE.5501058.root@mp14>
References: <1143832742.1602136.1286135794573.JavaMail.root@sz0142a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	<20101005075052.2CVJE.5501058.root@mp14>
Message-ID: <SNT106-W39B60D3FE3D6CD95AEA942DF6D0@phx.gbl>

What does not work mean?? No 'smoke' to the pump? No pump action at the
reservoir?, pump action but no squirt?
?????
Peter

> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 04:50:52 -0700
> From: tputland at charter.net
> To: strahlfamily at comcast.net; granvillecomputing at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Windshield Washer Squirter
> CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>
> I, for one, am still waiting to hear what state has this "safety
inspection"....
>
>
>
> ---- strahlfamily at comcast.net wrote:
>
> =============
> Hey, I have a 70 1600 and my squirters don't work. Anybody have a clue to
how that might be fixed? It won't pass state safety inspection because of
this.
>
>
>
> Paul S
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From aragal1966 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  6 08:21:23 2010
From: aragal1966 at yahoo.com (Daniel Araujo)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 07:21:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Door limiter assembly
Message-ID: <469799.85174.qm@web57707.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Hello to All,

I purchased a 1600 (1967.5) through Mike Young in May and have
been working on 
it for the past months (it's in Miami, Florida, now). During
this time, I 
have enjoyed reading up on the problems encounterd by list
members and more 
importantly, the solutions proposed/suggested/recommended by
others. Thanks and 
congratulations to you all, for enlightening an amateur
grease monkey.

Now I have a problem of my own. The door limiter bracket
inside one of my car's 
door posts is torn and I want to repair it. I found
the following website that 
has the parts (bracket and retainer
spring):  http://www.hrc-dat.com.au/sub2.htm
but OUCH!!! Any suggestions for a
more reasonable option?

Thanks again!!

Dan Araujo

From msedlack at neo.rr.com  Wed Oct  6 09:40:52 2010
From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 11:40:52 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Door limiter assembly
References: <469799.85174.qm@web57707.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <793497A3BDA549AA95510DB0869BB34B@p53ghzduo>

If you're not concerned about being "correct", google "door check strap" and 
you'll find things like these:
http://www.shop.sachserodshop.com/product.sc?productId=1006&categoryId=221

Some are fancier with checkered or colored webbing, etc.

Its what I used on the R, only I bought some antique car brackets, mounted 
them where I wanted, then sewed the straps to that length.
Mark Sedlack
Clinton, OH
66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daniel Araujo" <aragal1966 at yahoo.com>
To: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 10:21 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Door limiter assembly


> Hello to All,
>
> I purchased a 1600 (1967.5) through Mike Young in May and have
> been working on
> it for the past months (it's in Miami, Florida, now). During
> this time, I
> have enjoyed reading up on the problems encounterd by list
> members and more
> importantly, the solutions proposed/suggested/recommended by
> others. Thanks and
> congratulations to you all, for enlightening an amateur
> grease monkey.
>
> Now I have a problem of my own. The door limiter bracket
> inside one of my car's
> door posts is torn and I want to repair it. I found
> the following website that
> has the parts (bracket and retainer
> spring):  http://www.hrc-dat.com.au/sub2.htm
> but OUCH!!! Any suggestions for a
> more reasonable option?
>
> Thanks again!!
>
> Dan Araujo
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From pat at hornesystemstx.com  Wed Oct  6 19:30:58 2010
From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 20:30:58 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Door limiter assembly
In-Reply-To: <793497A3BDA549AA95510DB0869BB34B@p53ghzduo>
References: <469799.85174.qm@web57707.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<793497A3BDA549AA95510DB0869BB34B@p53ghzduo>
Message-ID: <4CAD22D2.1030801@hornesystemstx.com>

  Early VW beetles had this type of strap, but as I recall they were 
woven cloth, somewhat like seat belts, but of jute or cotton.

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Mark Sedlack, On 10/6/2010 10:40 AM:
> If you're not concerned about being "correct", google "door check 
> strap" and you'll find things like these:
> http://www.shop.sachserodshop.com/product.sc?productId=1006&categoryId=221 
>
>
> Some are fancier with checkered or colored webbing, etc.
>
> Its what I used on the R, only I bought some antique car brackets, 
> mounted them where I wanted, then sewed the straps to that length.
> Mark Sedlack
> Clinton, OH
> 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
> 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Araujo" <aragal1966 at yahoo.com>
> To: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 10:21 AM
> Subject: [Roadsters] Door limiter assembly
>
>
>> Hello to All,
>>
>> I purchased a 1600 (1967.5) through Mike Young in May and have
>> been working on
>> it for the past months (it's in Miami, Florida, now). During
>> this time, I
>> have enjoyed reading up on the problems encounterd by list
>> members and more
>> importantly, the solutions proposed/suggested/recommended by
>> others. Thanks and
>> congratulations to you all, for enlightening an amateur
>> grease monkey.
>>
>> Now I have a problem of my own. The door limiter bracket
>> inside one of my car's
>> door posts is torn and I want to repair it. I found
>> the following website that
>> has the parts (bracket and retainer
>> spring):  http://www.hrc-dat.com.au/sub2.htm
>> but OUCH!!! Any suggestions for a
>> more reasonable option?
>>
>> Thanks again!!
>>
>> Dan Araujo
>> ________________________________________
>> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From aragal1966 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  6 21:47:53 2010
From: aragal1966 at yahoo.com (Daniel Araujo)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 20:47:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Key blank for gas cap
Message-ID: <509399.73530.qm@web57708.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Guys:

It took me three tries to different locksmiths, but I finally found a key blank 
for my gas cap. The brand is "Silca" (made in Italy) and the code on the key 
says "DAT 1R". Worked perfectly!!

Hope that helps!

Dan

From larrybraddock at ca.rr.com  Thu Oct  7 00:13:09 2010
From: larrybraddock at ca.rr.com (Larry  Braddock)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 23:13:09 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] clutch master
Message-ID: <4E85B2D8643B4D2D99CD5DE9157D161B@owner4d7e0adce>

I'm rebuilding a clutch master cylinder from a 66.
I'm not seeing how to pull the piston/rod out. It looks like there's a cap
pressed on where the rod goes thru, but not sure.
Thought I'd ask before I got myself in trouble.

Larry Braddock

From brianrreynolds at yahoo.com  Thu Oct  7 01:15:56 2010
From: brianrreynolds at yahoo.com (brianrreynolds at yahoo.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 00:15:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
Message-ID: <152408.79666.qm@web62405.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

http://triarii-polska.pl/to.php

From alvingogi at gmail.com  Thu Oct  7 02:01:50 2010
From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 01:01:50 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 10/9 Canepa Tour/Drive this Saturday!
Message-ID: <AANLkTikk+x4EXQom=sGuO-KOP+4WCNEUUECXkuKkRfNs@mail.gmail.com>

Just a reminder that this event is a go for this Saturday!
Come out for the the drive and tour the Canepa facility with us!
Details at zcarblog:
http://www.zcarblog.com/2010/09/14/events/canepa-design-tourdrive-10910.html

From brianrreynolds at yahoo.com  Thu Oct  7 03:20:16 2010
From: brianrreynolds at yahoo.com (brianrreynolds at yahoo.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 02:20:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
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http://adfinish.com.br/to.php

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu Oct  7 16:57:40 2010
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 15:57:40 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Harbor Freight engine stand
Message-ID: <004b01cb6673$0bad9ab0$2308d010$@net>

Gotta return a borrowed engine stand and buy my own.

 

Folks happy with Harbor Freight, or should I go elsewhere? 

 

Thanks.

 

Pete

From banshee16 at starband.net  Thu Oct  7 17:26:09 2010
From: banshee16 at starband.net (Marcus Pryor)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 16:26:09 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Harbor Freight engine stand
In-Reply-To: <004b01cb6673$0bad9ab0$2308d010$@net>
References: <004b01cb6673$0bad9ab0$2308d010$@net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinrjqghhH0PLPZWa+vjVYNQQVMJZ899EUFruh4p@mail.gmail.com>

Harbor Freight engine stands are just fine for engines up to 750 lbs.

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Gotta return a borrowed engine stand and buy my own.
>
>
>
> Folks happy with Harbor Freight, or should I go elsewhere?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Pete
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Thu Oct  7 17:26:49 2010
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 16:26:49 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Harbor Freight engine stand
In-Reply-To: <004b01cb6673$0bad9ab0$2308d010$@net>
References: <004b01cb6673$0bad9ab0$2308d010$@net>
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 Bought one - wouldn't but another - the engine was almost impossible to
rotate - i think Kragen had a better one - and not too much more > From:
ppeters914 at comcast.net> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Thu, 7 Oct
2010 15:57:40 -0700> Subject: [Roadsters] Harbor Freight engine stand> > Gotta
return a borrowed engine stand and buy my own.> > > > Folks happy with Harbor
Freight, or should I go elsewhere? > > > > Thanks.> > > > Pete

From pjmill at sonic.net  Thu Oct  7 17:30:21 2010
From: pjmill at sonic.net (Paul)
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2010 16:30:21 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Harbor Freight engine stand
Message-ID: <25532.1286494221@sonic.net>

 Had one for years and used it many times -- no issues at all.

 Paul

 On Thu 10/ 7/10 3:57 PM , "Pete Peters" ppeters914 at comcast.net sent:
 Gotta return a borrowed engine stand and buy my own.

 Folks happy with Harbor Freight, or should I go elsewhere?

 Thanks.

 Pete
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From msedlack at neo.rr.com  Thu Oct  7 18:21:10 2010
From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 20:21:10 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Harbor Freight engine stand
References: <004b01cb6673$0bad9ab0$2308d010$@net>
Message-ID: <27B9922C669B48F391D24E7FD3B6D99D@p53ghzduo>

Used two of them to make a body rotisserie and it woorked great
http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/rotisserie.htm

Mark Sedlack
Clinton, OH
66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 6:57 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Harbor Freight engine stand


> Gotta return a borrowed engine stand and buy my own.
>
>
>
> Folks happy with Harbor Freight, or should I go elsewhere?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Pete
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From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Thu Oct  7 18:21:04 2010
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 19:21:04 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] POR-15 Dealers
Message-ID: <AANLkTin+Mqb1zufkTqbVuUsW8azUUqpEgpAWJxEiDKNz@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone know where I can pickup POR-15 somewhere between Austin and
DFW? We're replacing the 2 x 8 decking in our trailer and I want to
spray the "pockets" at the front and back where the ends of the wood
rests.

-- 
Ron

From printner at gmail.com  Thu Oct  7 18:47:47 2010
From: printner at gmail.com (Tim Waltz)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 18:47:47 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Harbor Freight engine stand
In-Reply-To: <27B9922C669B48F391D24E7FD3B6D99D@p53ghzduo>
References: <004b01cb6673$0bad9ab0$2308d010$@net>
	<27B9922C669B48F391D24E7FD3B6D99D@p53ghzduo>
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My engine sat on one for almost 4 years--no issues

(engine is at the machine shop finally)

Tim

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Mark Sedlack <msedlack at neo.rr.com> wrote:

> Used two of them to make a body rotisserie and it woorked great
> http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/rotisserie.htm
>
> Mark Sedlack
> Clinton, OH
> 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
> 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
> To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 6:57 PM
>
> Subject: [Roadsters] Harbor Freight engine stand
>
>
>  Gotta return a borrowed engine stand and buy my own.
>>
>>
>>
>> Folks happy with Harbor Freight, or should I go elsewhere?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Pete

From keithddowning at yahoo.com  Thu Oct  7 19:32:40 2010
From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 18:32:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Harbor Freight engine stand
In-Reply-To: <004b01cb6673$0bad9ab0$2308d010$@net>
References: <004b01cb6673$0bad9ab0$2308d010$@net>
Message-ID: <10434.44400.qm@web83307.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

HF can be good for "dumb tools".  I think engine hoists and stands and hammers
and zip ties...  fall into that catagory.  I try to avoid buying anything that
needs to think or plug in.  I'm also not a big fan of buying stuff made in
China, but sometimes you just can't avoid it.

Keith
To: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, October
7, 2010 3:57:40 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Harbor Freight engine stand

Gotta
return a borrowed engine stand and buy my own.



Folks happy with Harbor
Freight, or should I go elsewhere? 



Thanks.



Pete
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From strahlfamily at comcast.net  Thu Oct  7 21:01:48 2010
From: strahlfamily at comcast.net (strahlfamily at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 03:01:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Windshield Washer Squirter
In-Reply-To: <000001cb633a$ac845dc0$058d1940$@net>
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Thanks for all the tips.



State of Utah, We have clean windshields here.



Found the pump. Tubing andB nozzel heads seem clean. No action at Pump.B Seems
like pump or switch.B Hopefully I'll have time to poke around at it this
weekend.



Paul S
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 3, 2010 2:36:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Windshield Washer Squirter

You're kidding. Which state requires this?

Pete

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
strahlfamily at comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 12:57 PM
To: peter harrison
Cc: datsun
Subject: [Roadsters] Windshield Washer Squirter

Hey, I have a 70 1600 and my squirters don't work. Anybody have a clue to
how that might be fixed? It won't pass state safety inspection because of
this.



Paul S
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From banshee16 at starband.net  Thu Oct  7 23:07:27 2010
From: banshee16 at starband.net (Marcus Pryor)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 22:07:27 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Harbor Freight engine stand
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How are you going to mount an engine AND transmission on an engine stand?

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:44 PM, <lmflaming at comcast.net> wrote:

> Doesn't the roadster engine and trans weigh about 750?
>
> Larry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marcus Pryor" <banshee16 at starband.net>
> To: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
> Cc: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2010 4:26:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Harbor Freight engine stand
>
> Harbor Freight engine stands are just fine for engines up to 750 lbs.
>
> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Gotta return a borrowed engine stand and buy my own.
> >
> >
> >
> > Folks happy with Harbor Freight, or should I go elsewhere?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Thu Oct  7 23:41:49 2010
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 22:41:49 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Seatbelts
Message-ID: <SNT106-W36A86D699ECDA220ED3E9FDF500@phx.gbl>

Shoulder belts are PERFECT, but if the anchor point is LOWER than one's
shoulder then there is a danger of spinal compression upon impact where the
body 'lifts' itself into the restraint. Full restraint where the body is
anchored into the seat and there is no rotation is fine. But in the standard
roadster setup, if the shoulder belt is anchored into the 'baggage'
compartment then compression will occur. If anchored 'high' into the rollbar
then one only has to worry about rotation - which the seat belt will stop.
FWIW

Peter

From keithddowning at yahoo.com  Fri Oct  8 04:04:10 2010
From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 03:04:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Harbor Freight engine stand
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Engine alone is around 350 lbs, depending on what's still mounted on it. 
Trans 
is less than 100, I can pick it up no problem.
________________________________
From: Marcus Pryor <banshee16 at starband.net>
To: lmflaming at comcast.net
Cc: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu,
October 7, 2010 10:07:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Harbor Freight engine
stand

How are you going to mount an engine AND transmission on an engine
stand?

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:44 PM, <lmflaming at comcast.net> wrote:

>
Doesn't the roadster engine and trans weigh about 750?
>
> Larry
>
> -----
Original Message -----
> From: "Marcus Pryor" <banshee16 at starband.net>
> To:
"Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
> Cc: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2010 4:26:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Harbor
Freight engine stand
>
> Harbor Freight engine stands are just fine for
engines up to 750 lbs.
>
> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Pete Peters
<ppeters914 at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Gotta return a borrowed engine stand
and buy my own.
> >
> >
> >
> > Folks happy with Harbor Freight, or should I
go elsewhere?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > Pete
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From tputland at charter.net  Fri Oct  8 05:17:38 2010
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 7:17:38 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] [Shop-talk] POR-15 Dealers
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I always order right from them. The stuff is expensive enough as it is without putting in a middle man. But don't try to use their website. The ordering process is a PITA and the password recovery process flat doesn't work. At least it has never worked for me. (I know damn well what i used as my PW, but can never get it to work.)

Tim
Dairyland Datsuns

---- Ronnie Day <ronnie.day at gmail.com> wrote: 

=============
Anyone know where I can pickup POR-15 somewhere between Austin and
DFW? We're replacing the 2 x 8 decking in our trailer and I want to
spray the "pockets" at the front and back where the ends of the wood
rests.

-- 
Ron
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From lmflaming at comcast.net  Fri Oct  8 06:06:22 2010
From: lmflaming at comcast.net (lmflaming at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 12:06:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] [Shop-talk] POR-15 Dealers
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I would like opinions on this please. I am going to do a ground up resto on my
60 roadster and want to sandblast and either powder coat or use por-15 on it.
I have used Por-15 before and have 3 quarts lefts to use. Should I plan on
using one of these ideas on most of the suspension parts for protection but
mostly looks. I want this car to be as original as possible but what is
acceptable to ensure its value.

Larry
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Sent: Friday, October 8, 2010 4:17:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] [Shop-talk] POR-15 Dealers

I always order right from them. The stuff is expensive enough as it is without
putting in a middle man. But don't try to use their website. The ordering
process is a PITA and the password recovery process flat doesn't work. At
least it has never worked for me. (I know damn well what i used as my PW, but
can never get it to work.)

Tim
Dairyland Datsuns

---- Ronnie Day < ronnie .day@ gmail .com> wrote:

=============
Anyone know where I can pickup POR-15 somewhere between Austin and
DFW ? We're replacing the 2 x 8 decking in our trailer and I want to
spray the "pockets" at the front and back where the ends of the wood
rests.

--
Ron
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From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Fri Oct  8 07:31:37 2010
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 08:31:37 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Seatbelts
In-Reply-To: <SNT106-W36A86D699ECDA220ED3E9FDF500@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT106-W36A86D699ECDA220ED3E9FDF500@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=yP9NuzizVRup6PLHkUUTD5cVYKsNU5P1jx1c-@mail.gmail.com>

IIRC, there was a clip holding the shoulder belt roughly shoulder high
on the 2000 we bought new in '70. No, it wouldn't have done any good,
but remember that occupant safety technology was still in its infancy
back then. I've thought about fabricating a bar to fit across the
package tray, anchored with tabs fastened to the two shoulder belt
bolts on the rear wheel wells. It would only be useful to help keep
you in the seat during "spirited" driving. Wouldn't really help with
the potential spinal compression issue.

Realistically, if you get into a serious accident in one of these
small cars, surviving and avoiding serious injury is more about luck
than the crash worthiness of the cars.

Ron

> Peter

> Shoulder belts are PERFECT, but if the anchor point is LOWER than one's
> shoulder then there is a danger of spinal compression upon impact where the
> body 'lifts' itself into the restraint. Full restraint where the body is
> anchored into the seat and there is no rotation is fine. But in the standard
> roadster setup, if the shoulder belt is anchored into the 'baggage'
> compartment then compression will occur. If anchored 'high' into the roll bar
> then one only has to worry about rotation - which the seat belt will stop.

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Oct  8 07:32:54 2010
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 06:32:54 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Utah has the cleanest windshields
In-Reply-To: <1343975425.52579.1286506908136.JavaMail.root@sz0142a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <000001cb633a$ac845dc0$058d1940$@net>
	<1343975425.52579.1286506908136.JavaMail.root@sz0142a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <005601cb66ed$5088dc60$f19a9520$@net>

Gotta keep cleaning those squashed bees off, eh? <g>

Pete

----- Original Message -----
From: strahlfamily at comcast.net [mailto:strahlfamily at comcast.net] 
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 8:02 PM
To: Pete Peters
Cc: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Windshield Washer Squirter

[snip]
 
State of Utah, We have clean windshields here.
 
Paul S

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 3, 2010 2:36:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Windshield Washer Squirter

You're kidding. Which state requires this?

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
strahlfamily at comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 12:57 PM
To: peter harrison
Cc: datsun
Subject: [Roadsters] Windshield Washer Squirter

Hey, I have a 70 1600 and my squirters don't work. Anybody have a clue to
how that might be fixed? It won't pass state safety inspection because of
this. 



Paul S 

From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Fri Oct  8 07:46:29 2010
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 08:46:29 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Windshield Washer Squirter
In-Reply-To: <1343975425.52579.1286506908136.JavaMail.root@sz0142a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <000001cb633a$ac845dc0$058d1940$@net>
	<1343975425.52579.1286506908136.JavaMail.root@sz0142a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=CO_5U8RdRzZiQCEhrBfP8npCyaVfA7g1pV8+3@mail.gmail.com>

> Paul
>
> Found the pump. Tubing andB nozzel heads seem clean. No action at Pump.B Seems
> like pump or switch.B Hopefully I'll have time to poke around at it this
> weekend.
>

You need to trace the circuit from the power source through the switch
to the washer pump. A cheap 12 volt test lamp or inexpensive DVM are
great for that. If you haven't already, D/L and print one of Jim's
excellent color wiring diagrams located in the Tech Wiki section of
311s.org. I think Staples charged me $3 to print one 11 x 17 and
laminate it.

Easiest thing to do first is use a couple pigtail wires to connect the
washer pump directly to the battery to see if it runs at all. Unless
you want everything to be OEM you can get a generic pump at any auto
supply for $10 or so.

FWIW,
Ron

From RWM at RWMann.com  Fri Oct  8 08:13:21 2010
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 10:13:21 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Utah has the cleanest windshields
In-Reply-To: <005601cb66ed$5088dc60$f19a9520$@net>
References: <000001cb633a$ac845dc0$058d1940$@net>
	<1343975425.52579.1286506908136.JavaMail.root@sz0142a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<005601cb66ed$5088dc60$f19a9520$@net>
Message-ID: <4CAF2701.1030906@RWMann.com>

  Or is it the salt spray?


On 10/8/2010 9:32 AM, Pete Peters wrote:
> Gotta keep cleaning those squashed bees off, eh?<g>
>
> Pete
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: strahlfamily at comcast.net [mailto:strahlfamily at comcast.net]
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 8:02 PM
> To: Pete Peters
> Cc: Datsun Roadster List
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Windshield Washer Squirter
>
> [snip]
>
> State of Utah, We have clean windshields here.
>
> Paul S
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pete Peters"<ppeters914 at comcast.net>
> To: "Datsun Roadster List"<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, October 3, 2010 2:36:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Windshield Washer Squirter
>
> You're kidding. Which state requires this?
>
> Pete
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> strahlfamily at comcast.net
> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 12:57 PM
> To: peter harrison
> Cc: datsun
> Subject: [Roadsters] Windshield Washer Squirter
>
> Hey, I have a 70 1600 and my squirters don't work. Anybody have a clue to
> how that might be fixed? It won't pass state safety inspection because of
> this.
>
>
>
> Paul S

From rogerkerschhd at hotmail.com  Fri Oct  8 09:02:20 2010
From: rogerkerschhd at hotmail.com (Roger Kersch)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 10:02:20 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
Message-ID: <SNT126-W37389EDF3CCF261F36BAE0AA500@phx.gbl>

http://gruppo24.it/index2314.html

From lee.ehinger at frontier.com  Fri Oct  8 13:07:40 2010
From: lee.ehinger at frontier.com (Lee Ehinger)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 15:07:40 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] POR-15
In-Reply-To: <747193420.158307.1286539582653.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <39A77C2CAC6744ADB412472EDE6C24E6@homeo9ltgh9dtd>

Personally  I can not endorse it more...

If the metal is prepped correctly, as noted by POR, marine clean followed by
Metal Prep  - this is the best, hardest coating I have found.   I
sandblasted, followed directions and coated my 70 240z suspension parts,
internal frame rails, gas tank etc.  I also then coated it with Chassis coat
as it is UV susceptible.  So far I have used approx 1 1/2 gallon.

Another friend (Eric Issacson - I think he is still on the list) did his
1600 frame (even inside) and suspension.  I plan to do the same.

Lee Ehinger
70 240z
67.5 2000
Ft Wayne IN
-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
lmflaming at comcast.net
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 8:06 AM
To: Roadster List
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] [Shop-talk] POR-15 Dealers

I would like opinions on this please. I am going to do a ground up resto on
my
60 roadster and want to sandblast and either powder coat or use por-15 on
it.
I have used Por-15 before and have 3 quarts lefts to use. Should I plan on
using one of these ideas on most of the suspension parts for protection but
mostly looks. I want this car to be as original as possible but what is
acceptable to ensure its value.

Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim" < tputland @charter.net>
To: "Shop Talk List" <shop-talk@ autox .team.net>, "Ronnie Day" < ronnie
.day@
gmail .com>, "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters@ autox .team.net>
Sent: Friday, October 8, 2010 4:17:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] [Shop-talk] POR-15 Dealers

I always order right from them. The stuff is expensive enough as it is
without
putting in a middle man. But don't try to use their website. The ordering
process is a PITA and the password recovery process flat doesn't work. At
least it has never worked for me. (I know damn well what i used as my PW,
but
can never get it to work.)

Tim
Dairyland Datsuns

---- Ronnie Day < ronnie .day@ gmail .com> wrote:

=============
Anyone know where I can pickup POR-15 somewhere between Austin and
DFW ? We're replacing the 2 x 8 decking in our trailer and I want to
spray the "pockets" at the front and back where the ends of the wood
rests.

--
Ron

From dave at ranteer.com  Fri Oct  8 13:53:28 2010
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 14:53:28 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] [SPAM]  POR-15
In-Reply-To: <39A77C2CAC6744ADB412472EDE6C24E6@homeo9ltgh9dtd>
References: <39A77C2CAC6744ADB412472EDE6C24E6@homeo9ltgh9dtd>
Message-ID: <3CB112CC7E7C4B42967665C261108A0B@ranteer.local>

?a trick to make it last longer in the can - put saran wrap between the lid 
and the can, and keep it in the fridge

From wrenchorhammer at live.com  Fri Oct  8 14:19:03 2010
From: wrenchorhammer at live.com (Jim In Virginia)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 16:19:03 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] POR-15:  the dangers of inadvertant face decoration
In-Reply-To: <3CB112CC7E7C4B42967665C261108A0B@ranteer.local>
References: <39A77C2CAC6744ADB412472EDE6C24E6@homeo9ltgh9dtd>,
	<3CB112CC7E7C4B42967665C261108A0B@ranteer.local>
Message-ID: <BLU126-W19908291CD775EE734E1A3A5500@phx.gbl>

Yes, and by all means look in a mirror soon after using it, because if you
touched your face, Like it itch your nose, it will be there for about 2
weeks!
(dont ask how I know this!)
Jim

> From: dave at ranteer.com
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 14:53:28 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] [SPAM] POR-15
>
> ?a trick to make it last longer in the can - put saran wrap between the lid
> and the can, and keep it in the fridge
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From escanlon at wa-net.com  Fri Oct  8 14:59:15 2010
From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 13:59:15 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] POR-15: the dangers of inadvertant face decoration
References: <39A77C2CAC6744ADB412472EDE6C24E6@homeo9ltgh9dtd>,
	<3CB112CC7E7C4B42967665C261108A0B@ranteer.local>
	<BLU126-W19908291CD775EE734E1A3A5500@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <B88A526089CA4E6A9A2470BD087FFC94@HPW>

Having done 3 vehicles with POR, here are my bits and pieces:

DO wear a painter's mask with organic vapor cartridges, the fumes EVEN IN AN 
OPEN AIR SITUATION.... CAN BE UNHEALTHY.  You've been warned.

DO keep a rag that has been moistened with Lacquer Thinner (NOT Mineral 
Spirits) handy, that way the unexpected smear on body parts can be cleaned 
off.

DO use the Saran Wrap, but use TWO layers.  A single layer usually gets 
shredded and you have bits and pieces floating in the POR.  Don't know about 
the refrigerator trick, as it DOES smell nasty enough that SWMBO would 
firmly nix it's being brought into the house's living space, but I would be 
more concerned with the humidity.  If the ambient humidity is high, you'll 
probably watch as the POR will literally boil itself into a FOAM, this is 
totally undesireable so if it's raining or threatening to rain... don't 
paint with POR, you'll be wasting your time and money.

DO use disposable brushes but NOT the foam ones.  Don't bother cleaning them 
up afterwards either, the cost in Lacquer Thinner will exceed the cost of 
the brush AND the brush will simply NOT be soft the next day.

These are the ones right off the top of my head, I'll post more as I 
remember them.
E


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim In Virginia" >
To: "dave" >
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 1:19 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] POR-15: the dangers of inadvertant face decoration


> Yes, and by all means look in a mirror soon after using it, because if you
> touched your face, Like it itch your nose, it will be there for about 2
> weeks!
> (dont ask how I know this!)
> Jim
>
>> From:
>> To: >> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 14:53:28 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] [SPAM] POR-15
>>
>> ?a trick to make it last longer in the can - put saran wrap between the 
>> lid
>> and the can, and keep it in the fridge

From boakes at gmail.com  Fri Oct  8 15:26:55 2010
From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 16:26:55 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] POR-15: the dangers of inadvertant face decoration
In-Reply-To: <B88A526089CA4E6A9A2470BD087FFC94@HPW>
References: <39A77C2CAC6744ADB412472EDE6C24E6@homeo9ltgh9dtd>
	<3CB112CC7E7C4B42967665C261108A0B@ranteer.local>
	<BLU126-W19908291CD775EE734E1A3A5500@phx.gbl>
	<B88A526089CA4E6A9A2470BD087FFC94@HPW>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinFmbQUyyENXM-GU6_+dc_itnPizaDudq9VBJsZ@mail.gmail.com>

I agree with everything said, and while I'm not a safety nut, this is
one where I believe it is really important to keep ventilation at the
max. This stuff is truly toxic, don't take it lightly.

In the end, it's incredible, really like the results on all of my projects.



On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 3:59 PM, E Scanlon <escanlon at wa-net.com> wrote:
> Having done 3 vehicles with POR, here are my bits and pieces:
>
> DO wear a painter's mask with organic vapor cartridges, the fumes EVEN IN
AN
> OPEN AIR SITUATION.... CAN BE UNHEALTHY.  You've been warned.
>
> DO keep a rag that has been moistened with Lacquer Thinner (NOT Mineral
> Spirits) handy, that way the unexpected smear on body parts can be cleaned
> off.
>
> DO use the Saran Wrap, but use TWO layers.  A single layer usually gets
> shredded and you have bits and pieces floating in the POR.  Don't know
about
> the refrigerator trick, as it DOES smell nasty enough that SWMBO would
> firmly nix it's being brought into the house's living space, but I would be
> more concerned with the humidity.  If the ambient humidity is high, you'll
> probably watch as the POR will literally boil itself into a FOAM, this is
> totally undesireable so if it's raining or threatening to rain... don't
> paint with POR, you'll be wasting your time and money.
>
> DO use disposable brushes but NOT the foam ones.  Don't bother cleaning
them
> up afterwards either, the cost in Lacquer Thinner will exceed the cost of
> the brush AND the brush will simply NOT be soft the next day.
>
> These are the ones right off the top of my head, I'll post more as I
> remember them.
> E
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim In Virginia" >
> To: "dave" >
> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 1:19 PM
> Subject: [Roadsters] POR-15: the dangers of inadvertant face decoration
>
>
>> Yes, and by all means look in a mirror soon after using it, because if you
>> touched your face, Like it itch your nose, it will be there for about 2
>> weeks!
>> (dont ask how I know this!)
>> Jim
>>
>>> From:
>>> To: >> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 14:53:28 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] [SPAM] POR-15
>>>
>>> ?a trick to make it last longer in the can - put saran wrap between the
>>> lid
>>> and the can, and keep it in the fridge
>
> ________________________________________
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http://billoakes.com
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404 Broadway
Libertyville, IL 60048

From tputland at charter.net  Fri Oct  8 15:39:16 2010
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 14:39:16 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] POR-15: the dangers of inadvertent face decoration
In-Reply-To: <B88A526089CA4E6A9A2470BD087FFC94@HPW>
Message-ID: <20101008173916.XGZ14.9758587.root@mp11>

A question about what  brushes people recommend....

I have tried to use the elcheapo disposable ones only to fight having to pick the hairs off the surface that fall off the brush because of the cheapness of the brush.

What is the issue when using the foam brushes? I have thought about using them so as to not have to pick put loose brush hairs

Thanks

Tim
Dairyland Datsuns

---- E Scanlon <escanlon at wa-net.com> wrote: 

=============
Having done 3 vehicles with POR, here are my bits and pieces:

DO wear a painter's mask with organic vapor cartridges, the fumes EVEN IN AN 
OPEN AIR SITUATION.... CAN BE UNHEALTHY.  You've been warned.

DO keep a rag that has been moistened with Lacquer Thinner (NOT Mineral 
Spirits) handy, that way the unexpected smear on body parts can be cleaned 
off.

DO use the Saran Wrap, but use TWO layers.  A single layer usually gets 
shredded and you have bits and pieces floating in the POR.  Don't know about 
the refrigerator trick, as it DOES smell nasty enough that SWMBO would 
firmly nix it's being brought into the house's living space, but I would be 
more concerned with the humidity.  If the ambient humidity is high, you'll 
probably watch as the POR will literally boil itself into a FOAM, this is 
totally undesireable so if it's raining or threatening to rain... don't 
paint with POR, you'll be wasting your time and money.

DO use disposable brushes but NOT the foam ones.  Don't bother cleaning them 
up afterwards either, the cost in Lacquer Thinner will exceed the cost of 
the brush AND the brush will simply NOT be soft the next day.

These are the ones right off the top of my head, I'll post more as I 
remember them.
E


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim In Virginia" >
To: "dave" >
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 1:19 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] POR-15: the dangers of inadvertant face decoration


> Yes, and by all means look in a mirror soon after using it, because if you
> touched your face, Like it itch your nose, it will be there for about 2
> weeks!
> (dont ask how I know this!)
> Jim
>
>> From:
>> To: >> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 14:53:28 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] [SPAM] POR-15
>>
>> ?a trick to make it last longer in the can - put saran wrap between the 
>> lid
>> and the can, and keep it in the fridge
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Oct  8 15:56:18 2010
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 14:56:18 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] POR-15
In-Reply-To: <39A77C2CAC6744ADB412472EDE6C24E6@homeo9ltgh9dtd>
References: <747193420.158307.1286539582653.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<39A77C2CAC6744ADB412472EDE6C24E6@homeo9ltgh9dtd>
Message-ID: <009201cb6733$a35aeff0$ea10cfd0$@net>

Dunno if Eric is still on the list, but he did have his work nicely
documented back in 2005 on ClassicFairlady.com. Unfortunately, that site,
while still up, has not been updated since 2007 nor do the Galleries work.

I pinged the site owner several times over the years, but have given up that
it'll ever be fixed.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lee Ehinger
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 12:08 PM
To: lmflaming at comcast.net; 'Roadster List'
Subject: [Roadsters] POR-15

[snip]

Another friend (Eric Issacson - I think he is still on the list) did his
1600 frame (even inside) and suspension.  I plan to do the same.

Lee Ehinger
70 240z
67.5 2000
Ft Wayne IN

From escanlon at wa-net.com  Fri Oct  8 16:26:34 2010
From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 15:26:34 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] POR-15
References: <747193420.158307.1286539582653.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><39A77C2CAC6744ADB412472EDE6C24E6@homeo9ltgh9dtd>
	<009201cb6733$a35aeff0$ea10cfd0$@net>
Message-ID: <C21DCB366AE44443BE86BCA02D10864D@HPW>

I know the owner of Classic Fairlady, and I'll see if there's anything we 
can do.

Regarding the Foam Brushes:
The viscosity of the POR is such that after the first brush stroke you apply 
with a new brush after that the foam tends to stick to the surface and 
before long you are picking bits and pieces of the foam out of the paint. 
It literally disintegrates the foam.  Personally, I found it much easier to 
pick out the occassional hair from the el-cheapo brushes than to try to 
fight the bits and pieces of foam brush left on just about every brush 
stroke.

A quick hair removing tool you can make is simple:
Take a piece of wire, not too hard or stiff and using a utility knife cut 
and bend out little tangs out of the general diameter of the wire on one 
end.  Imagine that you are creating barbs in the wire shank to prevent it's 
being pulled out of something if you were to stab it into it.  Then when you 
find a hair in your paint, take your wire and place the barbed end over the 
hair, rotate the wire just a bit and the barbs will grasp the hair... then 
pull the hair out.

Thankfully, POR does flow out rather nicely and if you catch the hair 
quickly enough, you won't even notice where it was.

FWIW
E

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Oct  8 17:02:19 2010
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 16:02:19 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] POR-15
In-Reply-To: <C21DCB366AE44443BE86BCA02D10864D@HPW>
References: <747193420.158307.1286539582653.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><39A77C2CAC6744ADB412472EDE6C24E6@homeo9ltgh9dtd>
	<009201cb6733$a35aeff0$ea10cfd0$@net>
	<C21DCB366AE44443BE86BCA02D10864D@HPW>
Message-ID: <009c01cb673c$dc515ed0$94f41c70$@net>

Seriously, how many people are gonna crawl under your car and exclaim "OMG!
There's hair in your POR-15!"

Pete "figures powder coat will last my lifetime."

-----Original Message-----
From: E Scanlon [mailto:escanlon at wa-net.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 3:27 PM
To: Pete Peters; Datsun Roadster List
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] POR-15

Regarding the Foam Brushes:
The viscosity of the POR is such that after the first brush stroke you apply
with a new brush after that the foam tends to stick to the surface and
before long you are picking bits and pieces of the foam out of the paint. It
literally disintegrates the foam. Personally, I found it much easier to pick
out the occassional hair from the el-cheapo brushes than to try to fight the
bits and pieces of foam brush left on just about every brush stroke.

A quick hair removing tool you can make is simple: Take a piece of wire, not
too hard or stiff and using a utility knife cut and bend out little tangs
out of the general diameter of the wire on one end. Imagine that you are
creating barbs in the wire shank to prevent it's being pulled out of
something if you were to stab it into it. Then when you find a hair in your
paint, take your wire and place the barbed end over the hair, rotate the
wire just a bit and the barbs will grasp the hair... then pull the hair out.

Thankfully, POR does flow out rather nicely and if you catch the hair
quickly enough, you won't even notice where it was.


FWIW
E

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Fri Oct  8 17:44:22 2010
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:44:22 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] POR-15
In-Reply-To: <009c01cb673c$dc515ed0$94f41c70$@net>
References: <747193420.158307.1286539582653.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><39A77C2CAC6744ADB412472EDE6C24E6@homeo9ltgh9dtd><009201cb6733$a35aeff0$ea10cfd0$@net><C21DCB366AE44443BE86BCA02D10864D@HPW>
	<009c01cb673c$dc515ed0$94f41c70$@net>
Message-ID: <8CD3559DDFAD30A-1518-F0CA@Webmail-d114.sysops.aol.com>

 Wouldn't the stuff just disintegrate the hair just like the foam anyway?

Linda








-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
To: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Oct 8, 2010 4:02 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] POR-15


Seriously, how many people are gonna crawl under your car and exclaim "OMG!
There's hair in your POR-15!"

Pete "figures powder coat will last my lifetime."

-----Original Message-----
From: E Scanlon [mailto:escanlon at wa-net.com]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 3:27 PM
To: Pete Peters; Datsun Roadster List
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] POR-15

Regarding the Foam Brushes:
The viscosity of the POR is such that after the first brush stroke you apply
with a new brush after that the foam tends to stick to the surface and
before long you are picking bits and pieces of the foam out of the paint. It
literally disintegrates the foam. Personally, I found it much easier to pick
out the occassional hair from the el-cheapo brushes than to try to fight the
bits and pieces of foam brush left on just about every brush stroke.

A quick hair removing tool you can make is simple: Take a piece of wire, not
too hard or stiff and using a utility knife cut and bend out little tangs
out of the general diameter of the wire on one end. Imagine that you are
creating barbs in the wire shank to prevent it's being pulled out of
something if you were to stab it into it. Then when you find a hair in your
paint, take your wire and place the barbed end over the hair, rotate the
wire just a bit and the barbs will grasp the hair... then pull the hair out.

Thankfully, POR does flow out rather nicely and if you catch the hair
quickly enough, you won't even notice where it was.


FWIW
E
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From escanlon at wa-net.com  Fri Oct  8 17:52:06 2010
From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 16:52:06 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] POR-15
References: <747193420.158307.1286539582653.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><39A77C2CAC6744ADB412472EDE6C24E6@homeo9ltgh9dtd><009201cb6733$a35aeff0$ea10cfd0$@net><C21DCB366AE44443BE86BCA02D10864D@HPW>
	<009c01cb673c$dc515ed0$94f41c70$@net>
Message-ID: <2E59E58648F741B49BB16FFFDEFCB93C@HPW>

Some thoughts regarding the difference between powder coating and POR that 
many ignore or may not be aware of.

ANYTHING you have powder coated MUST be able to withstand 4500F for an 
EXTENDED period of time in order for the powder coating to adhere and flow 
out properly.  If it does not reach that temperature for the required period 
of time, then the effectiveness of the coating will be compromised 
accordingly.  POR is applied at room temperature.

POR is flexible to a degree but ever more so than powder coating.  I bent 
AND straightened a pair of fuel tank straps that had been coated with POR 
and found no problems with the POR coating... it literally bent and 
straightened out.  I don't know that powder coating would do that.

Powder coating WILL chip just like glass... that's essentially what it has 
become a glass like coating on your surface.  To my knowledge, of the POR I 
applied to the wheel wells on my Z and Roadster... I think it may have 
scratched it, but no rust yet nor bare metal.

Powder coating MUST be done by others on pieces small enough to fit in an 
oven.  Granted, there are some HUGE industrial ovens out there, but their 
use isn't going to be cheap nor available everywhere.  To do large areas, 
powder coaters use an Infrared Heating Lamp to cook section by section. 
(The powder must still reach 4500F in order to cook properly.)  That means 
that doing the inside of your fenders, either front or rear is going to be 
very difficult at a powder coaters. Not only that, but you must have 
stripped both sides of the metal to bare metal in order to NOT destroy the 
finish on the other side.

I used POR in my driveway for both the front and rear fenders AND the Rocker 
Panels AND the complete interior of the car as well as the complete interior 
of the trunk.  And I did this AFTER I had done the bodywork.

So, for my money .. POR took the prize.

E


Subject: Re: [Roadsters] POR-15


> Seriously, how many people are gonna crawl under your car and exclaim 
> "OMG!
> There's hair in your POR-15!"
>
> Pete "figures powder coat will last my lifetime."

From boakes at gmail.com  Fri Oct  8 18:00:53 2010
From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 19:00:53 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] POR-15
In-Reply-To: <C21DCB366AE44443BE86BCA02D10864D@HPW>
References: <747193420.158307.1286539582653.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<39A77C2CAC6744ADB412472EDE6C24E6@homeo9ltgh9dtd>
	<009201cb6733$a35aeff0$ea10cfd0$@net>
	<C21DCB366AE44443BE86BCA02D10864D@HPW>
Message-ID: <2A5EA8AF-AD43-475D-A875-689B73091877@gmail.com>

Yep, I tried the foam, disastrous. Mid-level brush is worth it.

On Oct 8, 2010, at 5:26 PM, "E Scanlon" <escanlon at wa-net.com> wrote:

> I know the owner of Classic Fairlady, and I'll see if there's anything we
can do.
>
> Regarding the Foam Brushes:
> The viscosity of the POR is such that after the first brush stroke you apply
with a new brush after that the foam tends to stick to the surface and before
long you are picking bits and pieces of the foam out of the paint. It
literally disintegrates the foam.  Personally, I found it much easier to pick
out the occassional hair from the el-cheapo brushes than to try to fight the
bits and pieces of foam brush left on just about every brush stroke.
>
> A quick hair removing tool you can make is simple:
> Take a piece of wire, not too hard or stiff and using a utility knife cut
and bend out little tangs out of the general diameter of the wire on one end.
Imagine that you are creating barbs in the wire shank to prevent it's being
pulled out of something if you were to stab it into it.  Then when you find a
hair in your paint, take your wire and place the barbed end over the hair,
rotate the wire just a bit and the barbs will grasp the hair... then pull the
hair out.
>
> Thankfully, POR does flow out rather nicely and if you catch the hair
quickly enough, you won't even notice where it was.
>
> FWIW
> E
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From escanlon at wa-net.com  Fri Oct  8 18:25:54 2010
From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 17:25:54 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] POR-15
References: <747193420.158307.1286539582653.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><39A77C2CAC6744ADB412472EDE6C24E6@homeo9ltgh9dtd><009201cb6733$a35aeff0$ea10cfd0$@net><C21DCB366AE44443BE86BCA02D10864D@HPW><009c01cb673c$dc515ed0$94f41c70$@net>
	<2E59E58648F741B49BB16FFFDEFCB93C@HPW>
Message-ID: <6D66A7A5EF3E483DB38126A23D3C3285@HPW>

Apparently the software doesn't like the Degree symbol,  it's 450 Degrees 
Farenheit and not 4500.  I had typed the degree symbol using ALT-0176 but 
apparently it didn't go through.

Linda, the hair doesn't dissolve but the foam either shreds, tears, breaks 
down or whatever but the hair does not.  I'll leave the why to the chemical 
guys.

E

----- > Some thoughts regarding the difference between powder coating and 
POR that
> many ignore or may not be aware of.
>
> ANYTHING you have powder coated MUST be able to withstand 4500F for an 
> EXTENDED period of time in order for the powder coating to adhere and flow 
> out properly.  If it does not reach that temperature for the required 
> period of time, then the effectiveness of the coating will be compromised 
> accordingly.  POR is applied at room temperature.
>
> POR is flexible to a degree but ever more so than powder coating.  I bent 
> AND straightened a pair of fuel tank straps that had been coated with POR 
> and found no problems with the POR coating... it literally bent and 
> straightened out.  I don't know that powder coating would do that.
>
> Powder coating WILL chip just like glass... that's essentially what it has 
> become a glass like coating on your surface.  To my knowledge, of the POR 
> I applied to the wheel wells on my Z and Roadster... I think it may have 
> scratched it, but no rust yet nor bare metal.
>
> Powder coating MUST be done by others on pieces small enough to fit in an 
> oven.  Granted, there are some HUGE industrial ovens out there, but their 
> use isn't going to be cheap nor available everywhere.  To do large areas, 
> powder coaters use an Infrared Heating Lamp to cook section by section. 
> (The powder must still reach 4500F in order to cook properly.)  That means 
> that doing the inside of your fenders, either front or rear is going to be 
> very difficult at a powder coaters. Not only that, but you must have 
> stripped both sides of the metal to bare metal in order to NOT destroy the 
> finish on the other side.
>
> I used POR in my driveway for both the front and rear fenders AND the 
> Rocker Panels AND the complete interior of the car as well as the complete 
> interior of the trunk.  And I did this AFTER I had done the bodywork.
>
> So, for my money .. POR took the prize.
>
> E
>
>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] POR-15
>
>
>> Seriously, how many people are gonna crawl under your car and exclaim 
>> "OMG!
>> There's hair in your POR-15!"
>>
>> Pete "figures powder coat will last my lifetime." 

From az589 at lafn.org  Fri Oct  8 18:26:05 2010
From: az589 at lafn.org (Stan Chernoff)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 17:26:05 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] POR-15
In-Reply-To: <2E59E58648F741B49BB16FFFDEFCB93C@HPW>
References: <747193420.158307.1286539582653.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<39A77C2CAC6744ADB412472EDE6C24E6@homeo9ltgh9dtd>
	<009201cb6733$a35aeff0$ea10cfd0$@net>
	<C21DCB366AE44443BE86BCA02D10864D@HPW>
	<009c01cb673c$dc515ed0$94f41c70$@net>
	<2E59E58648F741B49BB16FFFDEFCB93C@HPW>
Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20101008172436.0504e800@lafn.org>

I don't think that there is any part of a roadster that can withstand 
4500F for even two minutes without melting or burning to a crisp.

Stan
==============

At 04:52 PM 10/8/2010, E Scanlon wrote:
>Some thoughts regarding the difference between powder coating and 
>POR that many ignore or may not be aware of.
>
>ANYTHING you have powder coated MUST be able to withstand 4500F for 
>an EXTENDED period of time in order for the powder coating to adhere 
>and flow out properly.  If it does not reach that temperature for 
>the required period of time, then the effectiveness of the coating 
>will be compromised accordingly.  POR is applied at room temperature.

From antonywardle at gmail.com  Fri Oct  8 18:52:03 2010
From: antonywardle at gmail.com (antony wardle)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 11:52:03 +1100
Subject: [Roadsters] POR-15: the dangers of inadvertent face decoration
In-Reply-To: <20101008173916.XGZ14.9758587.root@mp11>
References: <B88A526089CA4E6A9A2470BD087FFC94@HPW>
	<20101008173916.XGZ14.9758587.root@mp11>
Message-ID: <AANLkTino6HLhdd4m9Tb42TQKP1oWgFx90admV5aH5mxE@mail.gmail.com>

how about trying it with a roller!

http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/holden-commodore-how-tos/76882-diy-painting-your-car-rollers.html



kiwi

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Fri Oct  8 19:45:59 2010
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 18:45:59 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] POR-15
In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.2.20101008172436.0504e800@lafn.org>
References: <747193420.158307.1286539582653.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	<39A77C2CAC6744ADB412472EDE6C24E6@homeo9ltgh9dtd>,
	<009201cb6733$a35aeff0$ea10cfd0$@net>,
	<C21DCB366AE44443BE86BCA02D10864D@HPW>,
	<009c01cb673c$dc515ed0$94f41c70$@net>,
	<2E59E58648F741B49BB16FFFDEFCB93C@HPW>,
	<7.0.0.16.2.20101008172436.0504e800@lafn.org>
Message-ID: <SNT106-W62E1FD830E0684EEAFE427DF510@phx.gbl>

from wikipedia
When a thermoset powder is exposed to elevated temperature, it begins to
 melt, flows out, and then chemically reacts to form a higher molecular
weight polymer
 in a network-like structure. This cure process, called crosslinking,
requires a certain temperature for a certain length of time in order to
reach full cure and establish the full film properties for which the
material was designed. Normally the powders cure at 2000C (3900F) for 10
 minutes.

Peter

> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 17:26:05 -0700
> To: escanlon at wa-net.com; ppeters914 at comcast.net;
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> From: az589 at lafn.org
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] POR-15
>
> I don't think that there is any part of a roadster that can withstand
> 4500F for even two minutes without melting or burning to a crisp.
>
> Stan
> ==============
>
> At 04:52 PM 10/8/2010, E Scanlon wrote:
> >Some thoughts regarding the difference between powder coating and
> >POR that many ignore or may not be aware of.
> >
> >ANYTHING you have powder coated MUST be able to withstand 4500F for
> >an EXTENDED period of time in order for the powder coating to adhere
> >and flow out properly.  If it does not reach that temperature for
> >the required period of time, then the effectiveness of the coating
> >will be compromised accordingly.  POR is applied at room temperature.
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From RWM at RWMann.com  Fri Oct  8 21:57:52 2010
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 23:57:52 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] --> Re:  POR-15
In-Reply-To: <SNT106-W62E1FD830E0684EEAFE427DF510@phx.gbl>
References: <747193420.158307.1286539582653.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	<39A77C2CAC6744ADB412472EDE6C24E6@homeo9ltgh9dtd>,
	<009201cb6733$a35aeff0$ea10cfd0$@net>,
	<C21DCB366AE44443BE86BCA02D10864D@HPW>,
	<009c01cb673c$dc515ed0$94f41c70$@net>,
	<2E59E58648F741B49BB16FFFDEFCB93C@HPW>,
	<7.0.0.16.2.20101008172436.0504e800@lafn.org>
	<SNT106-W62E1FD830E0684EEAFE427DF510@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4CAFE840.10409@RWMann.com>

/0ixGUP: Permission denied

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Fri Oct  8 22:25:54 2010
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 21:25:54 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] powder coating - oops
Message-ID: <SNT106-W293CB73B52681AD04E2DFCDF510@phx.gbl>

the email engine incorrectly translated wikipedia data - the temperatures are
200C or 390F NOT as you received as 2000 and 3900
from wikipedia
When a thermoset powder is exposed to elevated
temperature, it begins to
 melt, flows out, and then chemically reacts to form a higher molecular
weight polymer
 in a network-like structure. This cure process, called crosslinking,
requires a certain temperature for a certain length of time in order to
reach full cure and establish the full film properties for which the
material was designed. Normally the powders cure at 2000C (3900F) for 10
 minutes.

Peter

From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com  Sat Oct  9 07:32:58 2010
From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 09:32:58 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Harbor Freight engine stand
In-Reply-To: <004b01cb6673$0bad9ab0$2308d010$@net>
Message-ID: <BA2297FB976747B7AD2D1E90FC3765D3@jrussoPC>

I used my HF stand for many year and engines (U20, R16 and a L18) - no
issues.

I also use their movers dollies to store engines on - these are made of
thick plastic or wood (depending on the load rating) and have 360 degree
pivoting metal wheels on each corner.  This allows you to push them around
and easily attach a hoist.  You can do top end work on them too if you don't
mind sitting or kneeing. You might need to use a few 2x4 wood cross members
to keep certain parts of the pan and crank from carrying the load.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 6:58 PM
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: [Roadsters] Harbor Freight engine stand


Gotta return a borrowed engine stand and buy my own.



Folks happy with Harbor Freight, or should I go elsewhere?



Thanks.



Pete
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From lee.ehinger at frontier.com  Sat Oct  9 07:59:58 2010
From: lee.ehinger at frontier.com (Lee Ehinger)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 09:59:58 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] [SPAM]  POR-15
In-Reply-To: <3CB112CC7E7C4B42967665C261108A0B@ranteer.local>
Message-ID: <FB8435A3DD3548BDBCF3F38D6A7DFA0F@homeo9ltgh9dtd>

I use 2 self tapping screws, and screw through the lid.  Shake, even though
they state stir, and pour into a wax paper cup.  Replace screws - shake can
a gain - voila... sealed.  Back into my garage refridge.


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dave
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 3:53 PM
To: 'Roadster List'
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] [SPAM] POR-15

?a trick to make it last longer in the can - put saran wrap between the lid
and the can, and keep it in the fridge
________________________________________

From lee.ehinger at frontier.com  Sat Oct  9 08:03:21 2010
From: lee.ehinger at frontier.com (Lee Ehinger)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 10:03:21 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] POR-15: the dangers of inadvertent face decoration
In-Reply-To: <20101008173916.XGZ14.9758587.root@mp11>
Message-ID: <35149294D2134AB9B1AE041F9C5EB2F8@homeo9ltgh9dtd>

I have only used Lowes foam brushes... some (Harbor Freight) kind of
dissolved, got real soft...

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 5:39 PM
To: E Scanlon; dave; DatsunRoadsters send mail; Jim InVirginia
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] POR-15: the dangers of inadvertent face decoration

A question about what  brushes people recommend....

I have tried to use the elcheapo disposable ones only to fight having to
pick the hairs off the surface that fall off the brush because of the
cheapness of the brush.

What is the issue when using the foam brushes? I have thought about using
them so as to not have to pick put loose brush hairs

Thanks

Tim
Dairyland Datsuns

---- E Scanlon <escanlon at wa-net.com> wrote:

=============
Having done 3 vehicles with POR, here are my bits and pieces:

DO wear a painter's mask with organic vapor cartridges, the fumes EVEN IN AN

OPEN AIR SITUATION.... CAN BE UNHEALTHY.  You've been warned.

DO keep a rag that has been moistened with Lacquer Thinner (NOT Mineral
Spirits) handy, that way the unexpected smear on body parts can be cleaned
off.

DO use the Saran Wrap, but use TWO layers.  A single layer usually gets
shredded and you have bits and pieces floating in the POR.  Don't know about

the refrigerator trick, as it DOES smell nasty enough that SWMBO would
firmly nix it's being brought into the house's living space, but I would be
more concerned with the humidity.  If the ambient humidity is high, you'll
probably watch as the POR will literally boil itself into a FOAM, this is
totally undesireable so if it's raining or threatening to rain... don't
paint with POR, you'll be wasting your time and money.

DO use disposable brushes but NOT the foam ones.  Don't bother cleaning them

up afterwards either, the cost in Lacquer Thinner will exceed the cost of
the brush AND the brush will simply NOT be soft the next day.

These are the ones right off the top of my head, I'll post more as I
remember them.
E


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim In Virginia" >
To: "dave" >
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 1:19 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] POR-15: the dangers of inadvertant face decoration


> Yes, and by all means look in a mirror soon after using it, because if you
> touched your face, Like it itch your nose, it will be there for about 2
> weeks!
> (dont ask how I know this!)
> Jim
>
>> From:
>> To: >> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 14:53:28 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] [SPAM] POR-15
>>
>> ?a trick to make it last longer in the can - put saran wrap between the
>> lid
>> and the can, and keep it in the fridge

From lee.ehinger at frontier.com  Sat Oct  9 08:09:59 2010
From: lee.ehinger at frontier.com (Lee Ehinger)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 10:09:59 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] POR-15: the dangers of inadvertent face decoration
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTino6HLhdd4m9Tb42TQKP1oWgFx90admV5aH5mxE@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <357E896ACD574E3F91AD564028090388@homeo9ltgh9dtd>

I did a friends sons car with rustoleum, thinned, and a closed cell foam
roller trying to get a 15' car (looks good up to 15'. Then you aren't too
sure).  It ended up way better than that... it did take a lot of work,

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of antony wardle
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 8:52 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] POR-15: the dangers of inadvertent face decoration

how about trying it with a roller!

http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/holden-commodore-how-tos/76882-diy-paint
ing-your-car-rollers.html



kiwi
________________________________________

From keithddowning at yahoo.com  Sat Oct  9 08:37:05 2010
From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 07:37:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Harbor Freight engine stand
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I do the exact same thing with the dollies.  Three 2x4s under the shallow end
of 
the pan on my U-20. http://fototime.com/57A02524301DD5F/orig.jpg  I'm
hanging the flywheel and clutch off the back so  I can mate it up with the
transmission, also on a moving dolly.  I also use moving dollies under each
wheel so I can push the car around the garage as I need to.
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From: Joe Russo <jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com>
To: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, October
9, 2010 6:32:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Harbor Freight engine stand

I
used my HF stand for many year and engines (U20, R16 and a L18) - no
issues.
I also use their movers dollies to store engines on - these are made of
thick
plastic or wood (depending on the load rating) and have 360 degree
pivoting
metal wheels on each corner.  This allows you to push them around
and easily
attach a hoist.  You can do top end work on them too if you don't
mind sitting
or kneeing. You might need to use a few 2x4 wood cross members
to keep certain
parts of the pan and crank from carrying the load.

Joe

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[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 6:58 PM
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject:
[Roadsters] Harbor Freight engine stand


Gotta return a borrowed engine stand
and buy my own.



Folks happy with Harbor Freight, or should I go elsewhere?
Thanks.



Pete
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From northgaroadsters at gmail.com  Sat Oct  9 11:29:43 2010
From: northgaroadsters at gmail.com (P C)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 13:29:43 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 66 parts For Sale
Message-ID: <C0932772-1225-4A94-AC20-F153E24853FE@gmail.com>

Parts for sale

Alternator
Distributor
Radiator
Radiator support
Radiator hoses top and bottom
Overflow tank
Airbox with filter
Intake with carbs
Fuel pump
Filler neck with breather hose
Gas tank
Gas tank straps
J hooks
Sending unit cover
Center console
Glove box
Glove box door
Glove box door lock
Fuel gauge
Amp gauge
Water temp gauge
Oil pressure gauge
Tachometer
Dash Switches--
Lights, fog,
Choke cable
Ignition with key
Dimmer
Driver Seat
Pass. Seat
Steering wheel
14" steel wheels
Wiper motor
Water pump
Thermostat
Thermostat housing
Fan
Fan pulley
Crank pulley
Hardtop
Hood
Doors
Door Windows
Quarter windows
Quarter window holder driver
Quarter window pivot driver
Quarter window frame driver
Window regulators
Window channel rear
Window holder
Roll up handles
Door handles outside
Door handles inside
Door pull handles
Door locks
Door latch passenger
Bodyside door striker latches
Door hinges
Front grille
Vent grille
Trunk
Trunk garnish
Fenders
Trunk hold bars
Seat belts
Headlights
Headlight buckets
Headlight bezels
Front directionals and bezels
Tail light housings and bezels
Antenna
Door sill plates
Rocker sill plates
Inside rocker trim 6 pieces
R16
Crankshaft
Camshaft
Lifters
Rods
Caps
Bearings
4speed transmission
Driveshaft
Header
Starter motor
Clutch


Photos can be viewed here

picasaweb.google.com/101278287028344322083

Email any questions to
ClassicAutoRecycling at yahoo.com
Thanks

From ericerichoffman at yahoo.com  Sat Oct  9 13:56:39 2010
From: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com (Eric Hoffman)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 12:56:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] powder coating flexibility
Message-ID: <942849.32017.qm@web36903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I had some items powder coated and still attached was the coat hander sized
wire used to suspend the parts during the process.  After bending it back and
forth over and over the stuff did not chip or break at all which surprised
me.  As a matter of fact Mercedes 300SE 6.9's have a reputaion for cracked
front control arms and experts advise against powder coating because you want
to be able to inspect for cracks.  Its pretty tough stuff and I doubt chipping
and the like is any concern; also it is a finer, more precise and consistent
finish than POR15.  At any rate I'm thankful for both as some applications
better suit one than the other.

From ericerichoffman at yahoo.com  Sat Oct  9 14:07:05 2010
From: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com (Eric Hoffman)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 13:07:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] correction
Message-ID: <848048.55799.qm@web36906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I was making reference the control arms of the 1960's bankers hot rod, the
300SE 6.3.  The 6.9 was the equivalent 1970's 450SE 6.9.  I digress.

From brianrreynolds at yahoo.com  Sat Oct  9 19:27:19 2010
From: brianrreynolds at yahoo.com (brianrreynolds at yahoo.com)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 18:27:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
Message-ID: <48.20794.qm@web62403.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

http://comeadec.com.br/to.php 
Best regards, 

From bruce.crump at sasktel.net  Sat Oct  9 22:31:09 2010
From: bruce.crump at sasktel.net (Bruce & Bonnie Crump)
Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2010 22:31:09 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Rear Brake Hose
Message-ID: <4CB1418D.7050101@sasktel.net>

  I'm re-doing the brakes on a 1969 2000 and need advice for removing 
the rear rubber brake hose. I have disconnected the solid line but am 
having trouble removing the female end of the rubber hose from the upper 
bracket that fastens to the shock absorber mount. It is held by some 
sort of clip that I can wiggle but I can't see how it unclips to release 
the hose connector. It's quite corroded and I'm afraid of twisting it 
off or breaking the bracket. I have a new hose so I don't care if it 
gets damaged in the process. Any suggestions?

Thanks, Bruce

1969 Datsun 2000
SRL311-12862

From alvingogi at gmail.com  Sat Oct  9 23:04:16 2010
From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 22:04:16 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Canepa Tour/Drive Pictures!
Message-ID: <AANLkTin7x8f_L6TG9mvj6epkvZ4291vJrTxqZtmb9wJU@mail.gmail.com>

32 cars showed up today and it was fun!
The museum and showroom were amazing, and the shop was impressive
Got to see the Frisselle 240z up close
David Swig brought a 240z!
Rob's RX-4 wagon with streetport made the trip, it was quick!
The Hale's even showed up!

Full write-up on http://www.zcarblog.com/

From hallosb at juno.com  Sun Oct 10 14:36:29 2010
From: hallosb at juno.com (hallosb at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:36:29 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] Rear Brake Hose
Message-ID: <20101010.133629.21464.0@webmail03.vgs.untd.com>

The female end has a groove in the metal fitting. A u-shaped clip slides into
the groove and makes contact with the body mounted bracket to hold the hose in
place. If you have undercoating, it may be gummed up and hard to slide free
but, they're usually not too hard to remove.

Dan
'66 1600

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From: Bruce & Bonnie Crump <bruce.crump at sasktel.net>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Rear Brake Hose
Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2010 22:31:09 -0600

 I'm re-doing the brakes on a 1969 2000 and need advice for removing
the rear rubber brake hose. I have disconnected the solid line but am
having trouble removing the female end of the rubber hose from the upper
bracket that fastens to the shock absorber mount. It is held by some
sort of clip that I can wiggle but I can't see how it unclips to release
the hose connector. It's quite corroded and I'm afraid of twisting it
off or breaking the bracket. I have a new hose so I don't care if it
gets damaged in the process. Any suggestions?

Thanks, Bruce

1969 Datsun 2000
SRL311-12862
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From hallosb at juno.com  Sun Oct 10 14:45:33 2010
From: hallosb at juno.com (hallosb at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:45:33 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] POR-15 prep
Message-ID: <20101010.134533.21464.1@webmail03.vgs.untd.com>

Timely subject I suppose. I'm prepping my floor for POR-15. I bought the
Marine Clean and Metal Prep with it. Anyone have experience with the prep
materials? Do you use sponges to apply?

Metal prep says it should sit for 10 to 15 minute before rinsing with water.
Do you use a bucket of water and sponge it out?

I know they're stupid questions but, I was going to apply the POR-15 with a
foam brush before I read the posts. There may be some good advice out there.

I have to be careful. I'm painting the floor after the exterior body has
already been painted. (Note to self: Next time, paint the interior before you
take it to the body shop.)

Dan
'66 1600
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From escanlon at wa-net.com  Sun Oct 10 17:58:00 2010
From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:58:00 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] POR-15 prep
References: <20101010.134533.21464.1@webmail03.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <CD6068C1430047778819AB80B17ADA22@HPW>

I used some more of those cheap-o brushes to scrub the metal with both the
Marine Clean and the Metal Prep.  Probably another reason why I went the
brush route than the foam (although I had tried the foam brushes provided
with the POR kit AND some I bought at HF and both distintegrated).

Anyhow, using the brushes and a spray bottle with the diluted Marine Clean
(I used it 5 parts HOT Water to 1 part Marine Clean) I would spray till it
dripped then scrubbed until I got a good foam built up.  Then still using
the MC mix, I would "hose" it off and use the brush to scoot away the debris
/ foam.  Once I had scrubbed everything, I then hosed it down liberally (I
had removed the drain plugs AND I was doing this outside) until the water
ran clear.

Waited a couple of days to allow it to air dry and the heat (it was summer)
to evaporate the last of it.

The Metal Prep is reuseable to an extent.  A single application may drip a
lot of it off.  I used some wallpaper wetting troughs put under the same
drain holes as used for draining before, but this time to catch the run-off
Metal Prep.  Then using the cheap-o brushes and a glass bowl (don't use
metal), I kept "painting" the metal with the Metal Prep and kept it
constantly WET, not just damp for the 30 minutes it recommends for heavy
rust.  My thinking was that treating everything as if it were heavily rusted
at worst would waste 15 minutes of time per area.  I had spoken to the
distributor and he mentioned that you couldn't really OVER treat with the
Metal Prep, but you could UNDER treat.

I recovered the Metal Prep because I wanted to use it on many areas and a
one-time use doesn't weaken the solution.  (Storing or using in a metal
container does, however.)  You should see the metal band on a paint brush
when you get done applying Metal Prep.... it's oxidized black.

As far as masking or protecting the exterior, take precautions and use
plenty of drop-cloths in your entry/exit path and watch that you don't lean
on an exterior surface with POR on your hands.  (Small note, unprepared
paint surfaces will not allow the POR to grab.  You'll literally peel it off
like a cheap decal.  This also goes for most un-prepared metal surfaces that
are smooth, BUT if it's rusty or has been treated with the Metal Ready, it
WILL stick.

HTH
E

From bruce.crump at sasktel.net  Sun Oct 10 22:00:23 2010
From: bruce.crump at sasktel.net (Bruce & Bonnie Crump)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 22:00:23 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Rear Brake Hose
Message-ID: <4CB28BD7.3030609@sasktel.net>

/pCJpBw: Permission denied

From bruce.crump at sasktel.net  Sun Oct 10 22:56:31 2010
From: bruce.crump at sasktel.net (Bruce & Bonnie Crump)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 22:56:31 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Hose
Message-ID: <4CB298FF.3080308@sasktel.net>

  Thanks to all of you that replied with descriptions and helpful hints. 
Knowing it was a U-clip helped.  Had I started with the front brake 
lines first I might have been able to figure it out for myself being 
able to see it from above.   I was able to pull it apart with adjustable 
pliers after disconnecting the hard line using flare wrenches and 
liberal amounts of PB Blaster.

I learned a few things from this exercise:
1. Bifocals were not designed for work beneath a roadster,
2. The human head doesn't fit between the differential and the gas tank,
3. Roadster owners are helpful, great bunch!

Thanks again,
Bruce

From alvingogi at gmail.com  Mon Oct 11 15:44:16 2010
From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:44:16 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Jimmy's Old Car Picnic This Saturday!
Message-ID: <AANLkTin+ZPRxmkajYvGw_+vQaFxk+wG-EKguwoCCUVTK@mail.gmail.com>

Hey all there is car show in SF this Saturday called Jimmy's Old Car Picnic
and I thought it would be cool to have a Datsun contingent present!
Details below:

http://www.jimmyspicnic.com/

Also, the ZCarGarage Wednesday Night Drags continues with session 4 10/20,
details on the blog:
http://www.zcarblog.com/

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Mon Oct 11 16:32:06 2010
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:32:06 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Jimmy's Old Car Picnic This Saturday!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin+ZPRxmkajYvGw_+vQaFxk+wG-EKguwoCCUVTK@mail.gmail.com>
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 At least if you go there will be some decent pics...

Linda








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Subject: [Roadsters] Jimmy's Old Car Picnic This Saturday!


Hey all there is car show in SF this Saturday called Jimmy's Old Car Picnic
and I thought it would be cool to have a Datsun contingent present!
Details below:

http://www.jimmyspicnic.com/

Also, the ZCarGarage Wednesday Night Drags continues with session 4 10/20,
details on the blog:
http://www.zcarblog.com/
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From alvingogi at gmail.com  Wed Oct 13 12:45:53 2010
From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:45:53 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for Bluebird pictures
Message-ID: <AANLkTinTxi6Q+5Vggvn891BSSwq5bJ+=7mQ5qj1nuFQV@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,
does anyone have links or pictures of a '60's Bluebird?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/1962_Datsun_Bluebird_01.jpg

Did they offer this car in Sora Blue?

From lars.tungen at abaris.no  Wed Oct 13 13:04:12 2010
From: lars.tungen at abaris.no (Lars Tungen)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:04:12 +0200
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for Bluebird pictures
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinTxi6Q+5Vggvn891BSSwq5bJ+=7mQ5qj1nuFQV@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinTxi6Q+5Vggvn891BSSwq5bJ+=7mQ5qj1nuFQV@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiksfC5=rq2wWUL70_2qd2MRHg1KH8E_zhHwDHu2@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:45 PM, alvin gogineni <alvingogi at gmail.com> wrote:
> does anyone have links or pictures of a '60's Bluebird?

This one is in Norway:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30103288 at N06/4904750695/in/set-72157624629650531/

Lars Tungen
Norway

From mitch at brooks-planck.org  Wed Oct 13 13:32:06 2010
From: mitch at brooks-planck.org (Mitch Planck)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:32:06 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for Bluebird pictures
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinTxi6Q+5Vggvn891BSSwq5bJ+=7mQ5qj1nuFQV@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinTxi6Q+5Vggvn891BSSwq5bJ+=7mQ5qj1nuFQV@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikKEOi4NfgdQSE9wbbKyTUVSB7EUNphfeSF__GL@mail.gmail.com>

That looks like it was taken in the Toyota museum in Nagoya, Japan.

http://www.toyota.co.jp/Museum/data_e/d02_01.html

-Mitch

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:45 PM, alvin gogineni <alvingogi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> does anyone have links or pictures of a '60's Bluebird?
>
>
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/1962_Datsun_Bluebird_01.jpg
>
> Did they offer this car in Sora Blue?
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From roadster at astound.net  Wed Oct 13 13:48:06 2010
From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:48:06 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for Bluebird pictures
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinTxi6Q+5Vggvn891BSSwq5bJ+=7mQ5qj1nuFQV@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinTxi6Q+5Vggvn891BSSwq5bJ+=7mQ5qj1nuFQV@mail.gmail.com>
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I have a pic, there was one at the 2001 Shasta Meet. It was a left-hand drive,
tan color. I'll find the pic and send it to you.

Fred - So.SF

On Oct 13, 2010, at 11:45 AM, alvin gogineni <alvingogi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> does anyone have links or pictures of a '60's Bluebird?
>
>
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/1962_Datsun_Bluebird_01.jp
g
>
> Did they offer this car in Sora Blue?
> ________________

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Oct 13 17:01:33 2010
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:01:33 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for Bluebird pictures
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinTxi6Q+5Vggvn891BSSwq5bJ+=7mQ5qj1nuFQV@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinTxi6Q+5Vggvn891BSSwq5bJ+=7mQ5qj1nuFQV@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <008001cb6b2a$95597f20$c00c7d60$@net>

Checked with someone who has the 312 parts manual. He says it doesn't list
the paint colors/codes.

Pete

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Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 11:46 AM
To: datsun-roadsters
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for Bluebird pictures

Hi all,
does anyone have links or pictures of a '60's Bluebird?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/1962_Datsun_Bluebird_01.j
pg

Did they offer this car in Sora Blue?
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From datsun_nut at ns.sympatico.ca  Thu Oct 14 13:34:06 2010
From: datsun_nut at ns.sympatico.ca (datsun_nut at ns.sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:34:06 -0300
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun bluebird in Norway
Message-ID: <20101014153406.F0WFH.647071.root@tormtz03>

Looks like a nice Roadster in the background of this one

http://www.flickr.com/photos/30103288 at N06/4905349236/in/set-72157624629650531/#/

Damian Hall
69 SRL
Pictou NS

0 C and frosty this AM

From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Thu Oct 14 14:53:23 2010
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS))
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:53:23 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] backroads run 10/10-11, SoCal TT write-up
Message-ID: <CE1C9C26CC18FD4E804F232CEC1F8451049E6EF9@XMBTX132.northgrum.com>

Had a spectacular 2-day backroads run on the SoCalTT this past
Sun/Monday.  300 miles per day of backroads, pre'76 cars (unless you had
a last minute breakdown, then bring what you got and get some serious
jibing from others).
Interesting smattering of vehicles, wide range of marques and "patina",
and same as roadster events, the people are what makes it great.
Bench-racing, opportunities for roadside repairs and parking lot
dismantles at the motel, some incredible food at the catered dinner as
well as the "awards" dinner restaurant.

2 Roadsters (myself and Peter Harrison), as well as V-8 Roadster Eric H.
in his rotary swapped 62 midget, which has yet to acquire a suitable
nickname (any clever ideas? It is quite the beast).

Note: this was not intended to be, nor is usually so heavy in engine
swaps)
510's (2- both swapped, SR20 and rotary)
Alfas and MGBs and TR6's, 1 TR8, (ever notice that the wheelbase and the
track width are almost the same for this car?)
a Porsche 914-6,
Mercedes pagoda with a buick v-6
Ferrari 400A with a SBC-350
2 healey 3000s, one with a V-8
A Chenoweth Sand Buggy, legalized for this run
And some beautiful other rides
31 cars in all.

Great roads, great weather, great eats, great folk.
My roadster has run fine for the whole year, then started a stumble the
morning of the event.  Just doesn't seem like the dizzy is advancing
under hard load, and isn't running out of gas although I will swap the
fuel filter first thing.  My timing lite shows good at idle and good at
revs (dial back lite).
Perplexed, but was determined not to dismantle while enroute, and it
wasn't getting any worse, so I just soldiered on and since I was going
slower (slow enough to keep pace with the TR-6's!)  I took more
pictures, and loaned out tools to lots of folks for their roadside
repairs.

Some pics:

http://socaltt510.shutterfly.com/

A video (that I haven't viewed yet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKftO5ITVpQ

Fergus O, 69 2000, Los Alamitos, CA

From aultgc at att.net  Thu Oct 14 20:31:01 2010
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 21:31:01 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun bluebird in Norway
References: <20101014153406.F0WFH.647071.root@tormtz03>
Message-ID: <500427EA3554422AA9D9092CE939232E@gaxp1>

And, notice which car has drawn a crowd!

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From: <datsun_nut at ns.sympatico.ca>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 2:34 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun bluebird in Norway


> Looks like a nice Roadster in the background of this one
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30103288 at N06/4905349236/in/set-72157624629650531/#/
>
> Damian Hall
> 69 SRL
> Pictou NS
>
> 0 C and frosty this AM
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From invite+ikdujhim at facebookmail.com  Thu Oct 14 21:14:58 2010
From: invite+ikdujhim at facebookmail.com (Larry Flaming)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:14:58 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Check out my photos on Facebook
Message-ID: <de23532f3d1323bbee720a0b557c95d7@www.facebook.com>

Hi Roadster,

I set up a Facebook profile where I can post my pictures, videos and events
and I want to add you as a friend so you can see it. First, you need to join
Facebook! Once you join, you can also create your own profile.

Thanks,
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To sign up for Facebook, follow the link below:
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From nshimek at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 12:17:04 2010
From: nshimek at gmail.com (Nathan Shimek)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 11:17:04 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch woes, 69 2000
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=TC2hYeg-+1_svAUwNktUwnA_Yisi+QDpL9bcu@mail.gmail.com>

The wife told me last night that the 2000 was having a bit of trouble going
into gear.  I went out to look at it this morning and found little to no
clutch pressure and that the clutch wouldn't engage while started.  Prior to
yesterday the clutch hadn't slipped or had any trouble engaging.  Any
thoughts on where I should start troubleshooting?

Nate

From notoptoy at live.com  Fri Oct 15 12:23:38 2010
From: notoptoy at live.com (Tom Lorick)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 14:23:38 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Backroads run
In-Reply-To: <mailman.19.1287165604.3721.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.19.1287165604.3721.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP11486959E9F3B097235F3D9AB570@phx.gbl>

Fergus:
Sounds like fun! Good of you to help those stranded souls with your tools!
How about the "whirling Dirvish" (spelling?) for the Rotary Midget?!
I like the shot at the Magic Gas.
Shin's shop tour would have been AWESOME!
And that ain't no Roadster in the video! (Was it the Plymouth Coupe?)
Thanks for sharing!


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From nshimek at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 12:32:03 2010
From: nshimek at gmail.com (Nathan Shimek)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 11:32:03 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch woes, 69 2000
In-Reply-To: <525698.5249.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <AANLkTi=TC2hYeg-+1_svAUwNktUwnA_Yisi+QDpL9bcu@mail.gmail.com>
	<525698.5249.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimpUorDriKDTnsOtDiuLwT96JdieHmLWjmjxyUx@mail.gmail.com>

The pedal goes to the floor.  I just went down to check and found the clutch
master cylinder was very very low on fluid, not bone dry but close.  I
checked it about a month ago and that was not the case so it would seem
there is a leak somewhere in the system.

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 11:26 AM, steven boortz <
vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com> wrote:

> no clutch pressure means no pedal?  or the pedal goes to the floor?  check
> the clutch master cylinder for fluid, and the hose to the slave, and the
> slave, for leaks.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Nathan Shimek <nshimek at gmail.com>
> *To:* Datsun E-Mail List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Fri, October 15, 2010 11:17:04 AM
> *Subject:* [Roadsters] Clutch woes, 69 2000
>
> The wife told me last night that the 2000 was having a bit of trouble going
> into gear.  I went out to look at it this morning and found little to no
> clutch pressure and that the clutch wouldn't engage while started.  Prior
> to
> yesterday the clutch hadn't slipped or had any trouble engaging.  Any
> thoughts on where I should start troubleshooting?
>
> Nate
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 15 12:56:19 2010
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 11:56:19 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch woes, 69 2000
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimpUorDriKDTnsOtDiuLwT96JdieHmLWjmjxyUx@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=TC2hYeg-+1_svAUwNktUwnA_Yisi+QDpL9bcu@mail.gmail.com>,
	<525698.5249.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<AANLkTimpUorDriKDTnsOtDiuLwT96JdieHmLWjmjxyUx@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT106-W32A7E736E65F5064A8863EDF570@phx.gbl>

check the line first (this way any fluid squirting into the engine compartment
will be minimised) - i had a line touching another that abraded a sudden hole
- tada - nada. - Fill it up, have a LOT of water handy and gently pump with
S.O. watching carefully - ideally LOTS of light on the engine compartment.
Then check the clutch hose and the slave cylinder.Hopefully a hose - easier to
replace - though if so - also check the brake lines - probably same age and
potentially awaiting the same defect.FWIWPeter
> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 11:32:03 -0700
> From: nshimek at gmail.com
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Clutch woes, 69 2000
>
> The pedal goes to the floor.  I just went down to check and found the
clutch
> master cylinder was very very low on fluid, not bone dry but close.  I
> checked it about a month ago and that was not the case so it would seem
> there is a leak somewhere in the system.
>
> On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 11:26 AM, steven boortz <
> vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > no clutch pressure means no pedal?  or the pedal goes to the floor?
check
> > the clutch master cylinder for fluid, and the hose to the slave, and the
> > slave, for leaks.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* Nathan Shimek <nshimek at gmail.com>
> > *To:* Datsun E-Mail List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> > *Sent:* Fri, October 15, 2010 11:17:04 AM
> > *Subject:* [Roadsters] Clutch woes, 69 2000
> >
> > The wife told me last night that the 2000 was having a bit of trouble
going
> > into gear.  I went out to look at it this morning and found little to no
> > clutch pressure and that the clutch wouldn't engage while started.  Prior
> > to
> > yesterday the clutch hadn't slipped or had any trouble engaging.  Any
> > thoughts on where I should start troubleshooting?
> >
> > Nate
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Fri Oct 15 13:03:41 2010
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 15:03:41 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch woes, 69 2000
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=TC2hYeg-+1_svAUwNktUwnA_Yisi+QDpL9bcu@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=TC2hYeg-+1_svAUwNktUwnA_Yisi+QDpL9bcu@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CD3AB2D0FBEA6E-AB0-994@webmail-m048.sysops.aol.com>

Try checking inside the car where the clutch master comes thru. If it is wet
there it is coming out the back. You can get a rebuild kit but they don't
always work if the cylinder is too far gone.
Good luck
Linda






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From: Nathan Shimek <nshimek at gmail.com>
To: Datsun E-Mail List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:17 am
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch woes, 69 2000


The wife told me last night that the 2000 was having a bit of trouble going
into gear.  I went out to look at it this morning and found little to no
clutch pressure and that the clutch wouldn't engage while started.  Prior to
yesterday the clutch hadn't slipped or had any trouble engaging.  Any
thoughts on where I should start troubleshooting?

Nate
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Sat Oct 16 14:16:44 2010
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 13:16:44 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Invitation for the Grand Opening - Toyota
 Automobile Museum - RSVP form
In-Reply-To: <a4a219bea45a67caa4761095001a8db1@japaneseclassiccarshow.com>
References: <a4a219bea45a67caa4761095001a8db1@japaneseclassiccarshow.com>
Message-ID: <SNT106-W429565ACC6D59E47C5CED5DF580@phx.gbl>

Hello Kyu-sha fans,
    This is a Special Invitation for the Grand Opening -
Toyota Automobile Museum in Torrance, CA.
Nov. 2nd 10 am to 6 pm and Nov. 3rd 7 am to 3:00 pm.
You can RSVP by Oct. 27th. The link below will connect you to an
online RSVP form. *If the link is not working then copy/paste will
work.
https://ssl.formman.com/form/pc/c9gzU6tQ9Exiee5V/

Hope you can join this special occasion. Exhibition
includes:Toyota Motor Sport racing cars, speciality vehicles used
for movies, and many more to experience the histroy of
Toyota USA since 1958 to 2011.  Please feel free to extend this
invitation to your friends.
*The new location and direction to the museum will be sent to you by an
automated e-mail when your RSVP is received.
**Museum is open by appointment only. For reservations for tour and
meetings, please contact Museum Curator, Susan Sanborn:
susan_sanborrn at toyota.com

Toyota Museum website www.toyotausamuseum.com

 See you there!
  JCCS Association
www.japaneseclassiccarshow.com
*This message is sent to Kyu-sha guys who have
participated in JCCS or who have signed up for the JCCS news mailing list.
Arigatou.

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Sat Oct 16 14:26:00 2010
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 13:26:00 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Padding between frame. gas tank etc.
Message-ID: <SNT106-W9A8A48A3A7A591DC52069DF580@phx.gbl>

Just tidying my desk and washed my mouse pad - the material is thick and
perfect for placing between various parts that need protection - and generally
cheap if not free

From keithddowning at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 16 21:12:49 2010
From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 20:12:49 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Padding between frame. gas tank etc.
In-Reply-To: <SNT106-W9A8A48A3A7A591DC52069DF580@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT106-W9A8A48A3A7A591DC52069DF580@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C04AFCE7-0920-4432-B178-456CB93FF098@yahoo.com>

I think you should try asbestos. I hear it's not in real high demand these
days. Should be cheap.

Enjoy the ride.

On Oct 16, 2010, at 1:26 PM, peter harrison <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Just tidying my desk and washed my mouse pad - the material is thick and
> perfect for placing between various parts that need protection - and
generally
> cheap if not free
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From alvingogi at gmail.com  Sun Oct 17 00:12:25 2010
From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 23:12:25 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Jimmy's Old Car Picnic Pictures
Message-ID: <AANLkTinbqCpPDoyQ-q3N0D_kp6usjZ=GV=g+cauzgAUe@mail.gmail.com>

We had 3 roadsters(me, Fred and Annie, Eddie and Shari), Matt's 510 and
Rob's Mazda RX-4 wagon in a sea of muscle cars.
Full write-up with pics over at http://www.zcarblog.com

From lmflaming at comcast.net  Sun Oct 17 08:25:31 2010
From: lmflaming at comcast.net (lmflaming at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 14:25:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] MOTOR MOUNTS & TRANS SEAL FOR SPL212 OR 213
In-Reply-To: <580554149.560560.1287325432327.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <2024513452.560594.1287325531757.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Everyone



Does anyone know who sells the front and rear engine mounts and maybe some
shimsB for an spl213 or 213?



The part #'s are:



11223-01300 front engine mount leftB and right



11230-01300 front engine mount shims



11224-01301 rear engine mount leftB and right



and a transmisson rear oil seal

# 32136-07200

B 

Thanks

Larry

From larrybraddock at ca.rr.com  Sun Oct 17 12:27:43 2010
From: larrybraddock at ca.rr.com (Larry  Braddock)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 11:27:43 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] re gas tank padding
Message-ID: <1D337312B77D425CB7309AE5A1307794@owner4d7e0adce>

I just took out and replaced gas tank on my 66 and used a rubber material from
Home Depot used as a liner for tile showers.

It's real cheap as they have big rolls and sell it by the foot.

I cut strips and adhered it to the straps with a little silicone or something
like it.

Larry Braddock

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Sun Oct 17 18:40:04 2010
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 17:40:04 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Jimmy's Old Car Picnic Pictures
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinbqCpPDoyQ-q3N0D_kp6usjZ=GV=g+cauzgAUe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinbqCpPDoyQ-q3N0D_kp6usjZ=GV=g+cauzgAUe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAF327xDDdU5MnhljVp9nd1rCgAAAEAAAAFq64HsgDnFLsdTCeQB92yQBAAAAAA==@comcast.net>

"Check out the carb location and intake manifold on this rod:"

I think that's an original Mopar long-runner cross-ram manifold.


Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of alvin gogineni
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 11:12 PM
To: datsun-roadsters; bluebirds list
Subject: [Roadsters] Jimmy's Old Car Picnic Pictures

We had 3 roadsters(me, Fred and Annie, Eddie and Shari), Matt's 510 and
Rob's Mazda RX-4 wagon in a sea of muscle cars.
Full write-up with pics over at http://www.zcarblog.com
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From jover4x4 at aol.com  Sun Oct 17 18:49:53 2010
From: jover4x4 at aol.com (Jover4x4)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 20:49:53 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Colorado Car for sale
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinbqCpPDoyQ-q3N0D_kp6usjZ=GV=g+cauzgAUe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinbqCpPDoyQ-q3N0D_kp6usjZ=GV=g+cauzgAUe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CD3C7582FE277B-4B8-20AD9@webmail-m084.sysops.aol.com>

List,

I have just listed a 1970 Datsun 1600 Roadster on ebay for a local Wycroc
member.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150508257547#v4
-38

Take a look if interested.  Thanks.

John Over

From chalsted at comcast.net  Mon Oct 18 07:27:21 2010
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 13:27:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] roadster with A/C for sale in Miami
Message-ID: <928089843.272113.1287408441655.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

this was posted october 10th, there are 2 roadsters and the price is $1500. I have no connection to these cars, contact the seller directly if interested. I was told the blower for the A/C is in the trunk (hooked up) 

http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/cto/1999035029.html 

happy hunting! 
Craig 

From poontang188 at hotmail.com  Mon Oct 18 10:22:12 2010
From: poontang188 at hotmail.com (Scott Sheeler)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 12:22:12 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] The Datsun Roadster Book and Susan G. Komen for the Cure
Message-ID: <BAY139-W22B2D458CBCE3DEC571E2FC5A0@phx.gbl>

Good morning:

We try not to make political statements on the List but will make an exception
in this case.

>From today until the end of October all eBay sales of The Datsun Roadster Book
and Part III of The Datsun Roadster Book will automatically donate 20% of the
proceeds to Susan G. Komen for the Cure.  We will also donate 20% of the
proceeds of any sales from our website for ALL of our publications including
our Owner's manuals.

Having a dear, personal friend who is a breast cancer survivor has increased
our awareness of the need to support this organization.

Thanks in advance for YOUR support and for those not interested, apologies for
the intrusion.

For those of you interested in making a purchase, the links are provided
here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-Datsun-Roadster-Book-SPL311-and-SRL311-/36
0301067364?pt=Motors_Manuals_Literature&hash=item53e39dfc64

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Roadster-Book-Part-III-separate-book-/3
60301066935?pt=Motors_Manuals_Literature&hash=item53e39dfab7

Scott Sheeler
http://thedatsunroadsterbook.com/

From printner at gmail.com  Mon Oct 18 10:38:35 2010
From: printner at gmail.com (Tim Waltz)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:38:35 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] rope seal alternative for R16
In-Reply-To: <8CD3C7582FE277B-4B8-20AD9@webmail-m084.sysops.aol.com>
References: <AANLkTinbqCpPDoyQ-q3N0D_kp6usjZ=GV=g+cauzgAUe@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CD3C7582FE277B-4B8-20AD9@webmail-m084.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <004e01cb6ee2$ebc176e0$c34464a0$@com>

Has anyone ever modified the R16 to a modern lip seal?  I know there are
kits for MGs.

As I hope to assemble my engine soon, it would be great if there were a
"less-leaky" option.

TIA

Tim
67.5 1600 stroker

From ncoonen at fastbears.com  Mon Oct 18 11:16:12 2010
From: ncoonen at fastbears.com (ncoonen at fastbears.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 13:16:12 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] The Datsun Roadster Book and Susan G. Komen for the
 Cure
In-Reply-To: <BAY139-W22B2D458CBCE3DEC571E2FC5A0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY139-W22B2D458CBCE3DEC571E2FC5A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20101018131612.825682ly03hd6eos@webmail.fastbears.com>

Scott, 

That is outstanding! Thank you. My wife is in treatment for Stage 2 breast cancer so we both have a very personal reason to be grateful. Everyone's efforts and contributions make a difference. I will now appreciate my copy of the Roadster Book even more.

Everyone - if you don't have The Datsun Roadster Book yet, NOW is the time to buy.

With no apologies,

Ned Coonen
'69 2000

Quoting Scott Sheeler <poontang188 at hotmail.com>:

> Good morning:
>
> We try not to make political statements on the List but will make an 
> exception
> in this case.
>
>> From today until the end of October all eBay sales of The Datsun 
>> Roadster Book
> and Part III of The Datsun Roadster Book will automatically donate 20% of the
> proceeds to Susan G. Komen for the Cure.  We will also donate 20% of the
> proceeds of any sales from our website for ALL of our publications including
> our Owner's manuals.
>
> Having a dear, personal friend who is a breast cancer survivor has increased
> our awareness of the need to support this organization.
>
> Thanks in advance for YOUR support and for those not interested, 
> apologies for
> the intrusion.
>
> For those of you interested in making a purchase, the links are provided
> here:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-Datsun-Roadster-Book-SPL311-and-SRL311-/36
> 0301067364?pt=Motors_Manuals_Literature&hash=item53e39dfc64
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Roadster-Book-Part-III-separate-book-/3
> 60301066935?pt=Motors_Manuals_Literature&hash=item53e39dfab7
>
> Scott Sheeler
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Mon Oct 18 14:12:51 2010
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:12:51 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] rope seal alternative for R16
In-Reply-To: <004e01cb6ee2$ebc176e0$c34464a0$@com>
References: <AANLkTinbqCpPDoyQ-q3N0D_kp6usjZ=GV=g+cauzgAUe@mail.gmail.com><8CD3C7582FE277B-4B8-20AD9@webmail-m084.sysops.aol.com>
	<004e01cb6ee2$ebc176e0$c34464a0$@com>
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 What kits do they have, and did they modify the seal or the car?

Linda








-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Waltz <printner at gmail.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, Oct 18, 2010 9:38 am
Subject: [Roadsters] rope seal alternative for R16


Has anyone ever modified the R16 to a modern lip seal?  I know there are
kits for MGs.

As I hope to assemble my engine soon, it would be great if there were a
"less-leaky" option.

TIA

Tim
67.5 1600 stroker
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From barterdude at comcast.net  Mon Oct 18 14:41:00 2010
From: barterdude at comcast.net (Barter Dude)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 14:41:00 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Question on the Fairlady
Message-ID: <82A90DED3993495FA5331AFC7E82FAFC@LAPTOP>

I just spent about 6 months working on getting my original G motor in my '63
single carb Fairlady back on the road and while cruising the high mountain
passes of Colorado this weekend, I was musing.  

 

How many single carb 1500's are drivable today?  I believe the Roadster
Registry shows 12 '63's and Carl in Vancouver has one running and one in
resto.  I have one running and one resto.  Wondering do we have any other
singles running today?

 

Best of my research, only the first 300 Fairlady's were manufactured with
singles and some of those where converted to duals if not sold in '63.

 

Gary Lasater - Parker CO
founding member www.WyCROC.org <http://www.wycroc.org/> 
1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb)
1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb)
1964 SPL310-01289 

From samtheinept at sbcglobal.net  Mon Oct 18 15:44:11 2010
From: samtheinept at sbcglobal.net (Gary Russell)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 14:44:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] TDROC
Message-ID: <277317.70007.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Is TDROC alive again? Any list members?
Gary Russell
Arlington TX.

From samtheinept at sbcglobal.net  Mon Oct 18 16:25:13 2010
From: samtheinept at sbcglobal.net (Gary Russell)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 15:25:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] TDROC
In-Reply-To: <ED4E285F642EE9468E9FA11BE321B0FD9058AE1FF4@server3.universal.local>
References: <277317.70007.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<ED4E285F642EE9468E9FA11BE321B0FD9058AE1FF4@server3.universal.local>
Message-ID: <333671.82324.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I applied on Multiply. No response so far. I was a member of the old TDROC
________________________________
From: Morey Mast
<mmast at universalprintingco.com>
To: Gary Russell <samtheinept at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Mon, October 18, 2010 5:13:51 PM
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] TDROC

Alive
and well, Gary.  Sold two of my roadsters, but still have the grey 69 
2000. 
Judy and I now live in Bangs, Texas, about 170 miles SW of Arlington.

Morey
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 4:44 PM
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Subject: [Roadsters] TDROC

Is TDROC alive again? Any list members?
Gary
Russell
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From samtheinept at sbcglobal.net  Mon Oct 18 16:25:13 2010
From: samtheinept at sbcglobal.net (Gary Russell)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 15:25:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] TDROC
In-Reply-To: <ED4E285F642EE9468E9FA11BE321B0FD9058AE1FF4@server3.universal.local>
References: <277317.70007.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<ED4E285F642EE9468E9FA11BE321B0FD9058AE1FF4@server3.universal.local>
Message-ID: <333671.82324.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I applied on Multiply. No response so far. I was a member of the old TDROC
________________________________
From: Morey Mast
<mmast at universalprintingco.com>
To: Gary Russell <samtheinept at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Mon, October 18, 2010 5:13:51 PM
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] TDROC

Alive
and well, Gary.  Sold two of my roadsters, but still have the grey 69 
2000. 
Judy and I now live in Bangs, Texas, about 170 miles SW of Arlington.

Morey
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Russell
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 4:44 PM
To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] TDROC

Is TDROC alive again? Any list members?
Gary
Russell
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From keithddowning at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 18 16:42:11 2010
From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 15:42:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Question on the Fairlady
In-Reply-To: <82A90DED3993495FA5331AFC7E82FAFC@LAPTOP>
References: <82A90DED3993495FA5331AFC7E82FAFC@LAPTOP>
Message-ID: <362315.43779.qm@web83305.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I know we had one show up at the meeting point a few months ago for the
SOCALROC 
drive to the Nethercutt Museum.  I don't recall his name, and he
didn't drive 
with us.  He just showed up at the meet up point before the
event.

Keith




________________________________
From: Barter Dude
<barterdude at comcast.net>
To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon,
October 18, 2010 1:41:00 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Question on the Fairlady

I
just spent about 6 months working on getting my original G motor in my '63
single carb Fairlady back on the road and while cruising the high mountain
passes of Colorado this weekend, I was musing.  



How many single carb
1500's are drivable today?  I believe the Roadster
Registry shows 12 '63's and
Carl in Vancouver has one running and one in
resto.  I have one running and
one resto.  Wondering do we have any other
singles running today?



Best of
my research, only the first 300 Fairlady's were manufactured with
singles and
some of those where converted to duals if not sold in '63.



Gary Lasater -
Parker CO
founding member www.WyCROC.org <http://www.wycroc.org/> 
1963
SPL310-00161C (Single Carb)
1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb)
1964 SPL310-01289
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From joedatsun at att.net  Mon Oct 18 17:22:11 2010
From: joedatsun at att.net (Brian Parks)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 18:22:11 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] TDROC
In-Reply-To: <277317.70007.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <277317.70007.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <78089085-9FB1-42CE-9A4C-0F0575FC7C16@att.net>

Brian Parks
I also signed up on Multiply

Plano TX

On Oct 18, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Gary Russell wrote:

> Is TDROC alive again? Any list members?
> Gary Russell
> Arlington TX.
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From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net  Mon Oct 18 17:41:46 2010
From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:41:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] TDROC
In-Reply-To: <78089085-9FB1-42CE-9A4C-0F0575FC7C16@att.net>
Message-ID: <32464.32773.qm@web81701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Gary,

TDROC is coming back to life!

You are all set-up at the TDROC Site.

http://tdroc.multiply.com

Dan Zubkoff
Houston, TX

--- On Mon, 10/18/10, Brian Parks <joedatsun at att.net> wrote:

From: Brian Parks <joedatsun at att.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] TDROC
To: "Gary Russell" <samtheinept at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 6:22 PM

Brian Parks
I also signed up on Multiply

Plano TX

On Oct 18, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Gary Russell wrote:

> Is TDROC alive again? Any list members?
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From pat at hornesystemstx.com  Mon Oct 18 17:45:20 2010
From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 18:45:20 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] TDROC
In-Reply-To: <277317.70007.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <277317.70007.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4CBCDC10.6070209@hornesystemstx.com>

  I'm here still. Didn't know it was starting up again.

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Gary Russell, On 10/18/2010 4:44 PM:
> Is TDROC alive again? Any list members?
> Gary Russell
> Arlington TX.
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>

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From keithddowning at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 18 18:48:23 2010
From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 17:48:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] TDROC
In-Reply-To: <4CBCDC10.6070209@hornesystemstx.com>
References: <277317.70007.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4CBCDC10.6070209@hornesystemstx.com>
Message-ID: <531208.45888.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I bought the yellow '68 SRL311 from Thomas Dupree from Plano in February.  I
beleive he replaced it with an MR2, so I doubt he'll be involved, and I'm in
So 
Cal.

Keith Downing




________________________________
From: Pat Horne
<pat at hornesystemstx.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon,
October 18, 2010 4:45:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] TDROC

  I'm here still.
Didn't know it was starting up again.

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Gary Russell,
On 10/18/2010 4:44 PM:
> Is TDROC alive again? Any list members?
> Gary
Russell
> Arlington TX.
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From escarcega at cox.net  Mon Oct 18 18:57:22 2010
From: escarcega at cox.net (Marty Escarcega)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 17:57:22 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 13/16 Wheel Cylinder kits
Message-ID: <000501cb6f28$9697b210$c3c71630$@net>

Oh, forgot to ask same with the rear wheel cylinder kits. Our wheel
cylinders do not appear to be pitted and should be rebuildable.

 

Thanks again

Marty & Kelsey

From escarcega at cox.net  Mon Oct 18 18:57:22 2010
From: escarcega at cox.net (Marty Escarcega)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 17:57:22 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 67 Roadster Brake Shoe & Hose Sources
Message-ID: <000a01cb6f28$971853c0$c548fb40$@net>

SHORT of the specialty dealers, has anyone found the correct rear brake
shoes, the 3 brake hoses, master cylinder rebuild kit from any of the
chains?

Kelsey and I started on the brakes, we struck out with Rock Auto, shoes were
too small, the hoses were not correct (metric?)

 

Thanks for any tips in advance.

 

Thank you in advance,

Marty & Kelsey

Mesa, AZ

From aultgc at att.net  Mon Oct 18 19:38:54 2010
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 20:38:54 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] The Datsun Roadster Book and Susan G. Komen for the
 Cure
References: <BAY139-W22B2D458CBCE3DEC571E2FC5A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <FE5AE706DA9F4D27AAD90C1932017C42@gaxp1>

Scott,

I see nothing even remotely objectionable about your effort to aid an 
apolitical cause you consider worthy, on this forum or any other.  Good for 
you!

Gary
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Sheeler" <poontang188 at hotmail.com>
To: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 11:22 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] The Datsun Roadster Book and Susan G. Komen for the 
Cure


> Good morning:
>
> We try not to make political statements on the List but will make an 
> exception
> in this case.
>
>>From today until the end of October all eBay sales of The Datsun Roadster 
>>Book
> and Part III of The Datsun Roadster Book will automatically donate 20% of 
> the
> proceeds to Susan G. Komen for the Cure.  We will also donate 20% of the
> proceeds of any sales from our website for ALL of our publications 
> including
> our Owner's manuals.
>
> Having a dear, personal friend who is a breast cancer survivor has 
> increased
> our awareness of the need to support this organization.
>
> Thanks in advance for YOUR support and for those not interested, apologies 
> for
> the intrusion.
>
> For those of you interested in making a purchase, the links are provided
> here:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-Datsun-Roadster-Book-SPL311-and-SRL311-/36
> 0301067364?pt=Motors_Manuals_Literature&hash=item53e39dfc64
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Roadster-Book-Part-III-separate-book-/3
> 60301066935?pt=Motors_Manuals_Literature&hash=item53e39dfab7
>
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From aultgc at att.net  Mon Oct 18 20:30:35 2010
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 21:30:35 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] eBay Screening
Message-ID: <FE3553BA249A47138AC18616E194A04C@gaxp1>

Is there some way to screen specific sellers out in an eBay search?  There are
several with whom I will never do business because they have no clue about the
correct year for their parts, or they're peddling car covers or radiators.  It
would greatly simplify searching for items I might consider if I could
eliminate those whose products are not and never will be of interest.

Contacting eBay, as you probably know, is a waste of time because that
bottom-feeding operation never responds to any inquiry.

Gary

From dave at ranteer.com  Mon Oct 18 20:43:03 2010
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 21:43:03 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] [SPAM] Re:  TDROC
In-Reply-To: <32464.32773.qm@web81701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <32464.32773.qm@web81701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <D4F2B4B249E045758668E4BBA26AE165@ranteer.local>

?I'm in!

www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Dan Zubkoff" <zubkoff at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 6:41 PM
To: "Gary Russell" <samtheinept at sbcglobal.net>; "Brian Parks" 
<joedatsun at att.net>
Cc: <Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Roadsters] TDROC

> Hi Gary,
>
> TDROC is coming back to life!
>
> You are all set-up at the TDROC Site.
>
> http://tdroc.multiply.com
>
> Dan Zubkoff
> Houston, TX

From dooger at wildblue.net  Mon Oct 18 20:47:30 2010
From: dooger at wildblue.net (Wes Jones)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 22:47:30 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] eBay Screening
In-Reply-To: <FE3553BA249A47138AC18616E194A04C@gaxp1>
References: <FE3553BA249A47138AC18616E194A04C@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <op.vksx1g0u019zwa@we-1.wildblue.com>

On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 22:30:35 -0400, Gary and Cindy Ault <aultgc at att.net>  
wrote:

> Is there some way to screen specific sellers out in an eBay search?

Yes. It's in the advanced search page.

Best, wes
White '69 1600

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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Mon Oct 18 21:03:52 2010
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 20:03:52 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 67 Roadster Brake Shoe & Hose Sources
In-Reply-To: <000a01cb6f28$971853c0$c548fb40$@net>
References: <000a01cb6f28$971853c0$c548fb40$@net>
Message-ID: <SNT106-W5841FD9E2B3A73028B2383DF5B0@phx.gbl>

NONE of the Chains, Pep-Boys, Kragen(O'Reilly),Autozone,NAPA had the correct
rear shoes if one looks for the 311 - they ALWAYS gave the 8'' rather than the
9". I think I went with 510 shoes. AS to the hoses - again NONE of the Chains
had the correct one for the roadster - actually had them made since i wanted
stainless.

FWIW

> From: escarcega at cox.net
> To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 17:57:22 -0700
> Subject: [Roadsters] 67 Roadster Brake Shoe & Hose Sources
>
> SHORT of the specialty dealers, has anyone found the correct rear brake
> shoes, the 3 brake hoses, master cylinder rebuild kit from any of the
> chains?
>
> Kelsey and I started on the brakes, we struck out with Rock Auto, shoes
were
> too small, the hoses were not correct (metric?)
>
>
>
> Thanks for any tips in advance.
>
>
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> Marty & Kelsey
>
> Mesa, AZ
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From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Mon Oct 18 21:24:29 2010
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 22:24:29 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 67 Roadster Brake Shoe & Hose Sources
References: <000a01cb6f28$971853c0$c548fb40$@net>
	<SNT106-W5841FD9E2B3A73028B2383DF5B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5C76C0DEB24044139B03B001459573E9@lap120>

I have found ALL of the following parts numbers for hoses at all of the 
chains you listed except Pep-Boys.

The rubber flex hoses are 17" long from the nut head on one end to the nut 
head on the other end. One end has a male thread for 3/16" tubing fittings, 
and the other end has a slot for a bracket attachment clip and a female 
fitting for 3/16" tubing fittings.

BECK/ARNLEY 073-1188
BENDIX 77002
These hoses are about 1" shorter than Nissan OEM hoses. There does not seem 
to be a problem with flex range.

RAYBESTOS BH36737
AUTO SPECIALTY FRONT / HB51100 -- REAR / HB-51320

Also:

Front - Dorman H96862
Rear - Dorman H36866

FWIW, YMMV,
Mike Hudson   '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "peter harrison" <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>
To: "datsun" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 67 Roadster Brake Shoe & Hose Sources


> NONE of the Chains, Pep-Boys, Kragen(O'Reilly),Autozone,NAPA had the 
> correct
> rear shoes if one looks for the 311 - they ALWAYS gave the 8'' rather than 
> the
> 9". I think I went with 510 shoes. AS to the hoses - again NONE of the 
> Chains
> had the correct one for the roadster - actually had them made since i 
> wanted
> stainless.
>
> FWIW
>
>> From: escarcega at cox.net
>> To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 17:57:22 -0700
>> Subject: [Roadsters] 67 Roadster Brake Shoe & Hose Sources
>>
>> SHORT of the specialty dealers, has anyone found the correct rear brake
>> shoes, the 3 brake hoses, master cylinder rebuild kit from any of the
>> chains?
>>
>> Kelsey and I started on the brakes, we struck out with Rock Auto, shoes
> were
>> too small, the hoses were not correct (metric?)
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for any tips in advance.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you in advance,
>>
>> Marty & Kelsey
>>
>> Mesa, AZ

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Mon Oct 18 21:54:25 2010
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 20:54:25 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 67 Roadster Brake Shoe & Hose Sources
In-Reply-To: <5C76C0DEB24044139B03B001459573E9@lap120>
References: <000a01cb6f28$971853c0$c548fb40$@net>,
	<SNT106-W5841FD9E2B3A73028B2383DF5B0@phx.gbl>,
	<5C76C0DEB24044139B03B001459573E9@lap120>
Message-ID: <SNT106-W417BB87E03E1C21B851349DF5B0@phx.gbl>

I get that you can find the parts - the problem is that they don't work --
certainly not on my 1970. I tried EVERY number listed on 311s and NONE  of
them worked - we even found a NAPA part that SAID they were correct - but the
threading was wrong when it arrived. Linda Jordan will attest to my colorful
language. As Dean commented "mine work".

Peter Harrison

> From: twobeaners at earthlink.net
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 22:24:29 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 67 Roadster Brake Shoe & Hose Sources
>
> I have found ALL of the following parts numbers for hoses at all of the
> chains you listed except Pep-Boys.
>
> The rubber flex hoses are 17" long from the nut head on one end to the nut
> head on the other end. One end has a male thread for 3/16" tubing fittings,
> and the other end has a slot for a bracket attachment clip and a female
> fitting for 3/16" tubing fittings.
>
> BECK/ARNLEY 073-1188
> BENDIX 77002
> These hoses are about 1" shorter than Nissan OEM hoses. There does not seem
> to be a problem with flex range.
>
> RAYBESTOS BH36737
> AUTO SPECIALTY FRONT / HB51100 -- REAR / HB-51320
>
> Also:
>
> Front - Dorman H96862
> Rear - Dorman H36866
>
> FWIW, YMMV,
> Mike Hudson   '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "peter harrison" <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>
> To: "datsun" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 10:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 67 Roadster Brake Shoe & Hose Sources
>
>
> > NONE of the Chains, Pep-Boys, Kragen(O'Reilly),Autozone,NAPA had the
> > correct
> > rear shoes if one looks for the 311 - they ALWAYS gave the 8'' rather than
> > the
> > 9". I think I went with 510 shoes. AS to the hoses - again NONE of the
> > Chains
> > had the correct one for the roadster - actually had them made since i
> > wanted
> > stainless.
> >
> > FWIW
> >
> >> From: escarcega at cox.net
> >> To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> >> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 17:57:22 -0700
> >> Subject: [Roadsters] 67 Roadster Brake Shoe & Hose Sources
> >>
> >> SHORT of the specialty dealers, has anyone found the correct rear brake
> >> shoes, the 3 brake hoses, master cylinder rebuild kit from any of the
> >> chains?
> >>
> >> Kelsey and I started on the brakes, we struck out with Rock Auto, shoes
> > were
> >> too small, the hoses were not correct (metric?)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks for any tips in advance.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank you in advance,
> >>
> >> Marty & Kelsey
> >>
> >> Mesa, AZ
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From notoptoy at live.com  Mon Oct 18 22:33:51 2010
From: notoptoy at live.com (Tom Lorick)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 00:33:51 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 4, Issue 381
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Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP1844D3C20642CF3F4C927CDAB5B0@phx.gbl>

The shoes for a 1971 Datsun 510 will work fine, available from Advance auto
and others for around $20.  They will have an "extra" hole in the metal part
of the show, but that will not affect installation or operation.

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From dboerst at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 18 23:02:46 2010
From: dboerst at yahoo.com (David Boerst)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 22:02:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Rebuild kitsfor mechanical fuel pump?
Message-ID: <679937.86645.qm@web58608.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Is there such a animal? Been having fuel delivery and carb problems with "The Orange Burst" since Amy bought it. It has a electric fuel pump at the gas tank but it is not pumping enough fuel. Yes have gone through fuel filters, blowing out lines, screens in carbs. It IS the fuel delivery. Question: Why did Datsun run the fuel lines so close to the thermostat housing and exhaust manifold? 

From keithddowning at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 18 23:51:32 2010
From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 22:51:32 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Rebuild kitsfor mechanical fuel pump?
In-Reply-To: <679937.86645.qm@web58608.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <679937.86645.qm@web58608.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <211E35EF-CF47-4C31-B677-287A0CF7D19C@yahoo.com>

A new fuel pump is less than $100


Enjoy the ride.

On Oct 18, 2010, at 10:02 PM, David Boerst <dboerst at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Is there such a animal? Been having fuel delivery and carb problems with
"The Orange Burst" since Amy bought it. It has a electric fuel pump at the gas
tank but it is not pumping enough fuel. Yes have gone through fuel filters,
blowing out lines, screens in carbs. It IS the fuel delivery. Question: Why
did Datsun run the fuel lines so close to the thermostat housing and exhaust
manifold?
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From timbob_fisher at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 19 06:04:14 2010
From: timbob_fisher at yahoo.com (tim fisher)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 05:04:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] TDROC
In-Reply-To: <32464.32773.qm@web81701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <267337.39445.qm@web120512.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I'm registered.  I was a member of TDROC back in the '90s.  Currently living
in KCMo.  But, I come back to Houston regularly


--- On Mon, 10/18/10, Dan Zubkoff <zubkoff at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

From: Dan Zubkoff <zubkoff at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] TDROC
To: "Gary Russell" <samtheinept at sbcglobal.net>, "Brian Parks"
<joedatsun at att.net>
Cc: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 6:41 PM

Hi Gary,

TDROC is coming back to life!

You are all set-up at the TDROC Site.

http://tdroc.multiply.com

Dan Zubkoff
Houston, TX

--- On Mon, 10/18/10, Brian Parks <joedatsun at att.net> wrote:

From: Brian Parks <joedatsun at att.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] TDROC
To: "Gary Russell" <samtheinept at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 6:22 PM

Brian Parks
I also signed up on Multiply

Plano TX

On Oct 18, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Gary Russell wrote:

> Is TDROC alive again? Any list members?
> Gary Russell
> Arlington TX.
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From jetteboy2002 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 19 11:04:27 2010
From: jetteboy2002 at yahoo.com (jetteboy2002 at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 10:04:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
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http://vigofuh.t35.com/

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Tue Oct 19 17:00:56 2010
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 19:00:56 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Rebuild kitsfor mechanical fuel pump?
In-Reply-To: <211E35EF-CF47-4C31-B677-287A0CF7D19C@yahoo.com>
References: <679937.86645.qm@web58608.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<211E35EF-CF47-4C31-B677-287A0CF7D19C@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CD3DF89F2610D0-1544-388F@webmail-d076.sysops.aol.com>

 Check 311, I think I read L20 kits work which includes diaphram and valves.
Linda



-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Downing <keithddowning at yahoo.com>
To: David Boerst <dboerst at yahoo.com>
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Oct 18, 2010 10:51 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rebuild kitsfor mechanical fuel pump?


A new fuel pump is less than $100


Enjoy the ride.

On Oct 18, 2010, at 10:02 PM, David Boerst <dboerst at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Is there such a animal? Been having fuel delivery and carb problems with
"The Orange Burst" since Amy bought it. It has a electric fuel pump at the
gas
tank but it is not pumping enough fuel. Yes have gone through fuel filters,
blowing out lines, screens in carbs. It IS the fuel delivery. Question: Why
did Datsun run the fuel lines so close to the thermostat housing and exhaust
manifold?
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From graemes at internode.on.net  Tue Oct 19 18:00:47 2010
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:30:47 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] Rebuild kitsfor mechanical fuel pump?
In-Reply-To: <8CD3DF89F2610D0-1544-388F@webmail-d076.sysops.aol.com>
References: <679937.86645.qm@web58608.mail.re3.yahoo.com><211E35EF-CF47-4C31-B677-287A0CF7D19C@yahoo.com>
	<8CD3DF89F2610D0-1544-388F@webmail-d076.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <169ADC0615744DAD85FB0EAD96FFB9ED@desktop>

 The larger diameter L20B mechanical fuel pump apparently is unique and I
haven't found any re-build kits available.
However the smaller diam. Pumps, same as that fitted to the Roadster, are
used on the L16,18 [and possibly the L6s] engines and re-build kits are
readily available.
However the original problem was with an ELECTRIC pump.
If the output of the pump is inadequate or the pressure regulator is cactus,
no option but to replace.
Fuel line positioning?
Because they could ;)

" Check 311, I think I read L20 kits work which includes diaphram and
valves.
Linda"

"Is there such a animal? Been having fuel delivery and carb problems with
"The Orange Burst" since Amy bought it. It has a electric fuel pump at the
gas tank but it is not pumping enough fuel. Yes have gone through fuel
filters, blowing out lines, screens in carbs. It IS the fuel delivery.
Question: Why did Datsun run the fuel lines so close to the thermostat
housing and exhaust manifold?"

From roadster at astound.net  Tue Oct 19 18:48:00 2010
From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 17:48:00 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Jimmy's Old Car Picnic Pictures
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinbqCpPDoyQ-q3N0D_kp6usjZ=GV=g+cauzgAUe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinbqCpPDoyQ-q3N0D_kp6usjZ=GV=g+cauzgAUe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <67C2F75E-9B6F-4073-9F36-F97200BDA904@astound.net>

Great pics by Alvin! I uploaded a brief video of excerpts of the car  
show, so you can get a taste of what it's like there. Like Alvin says,  
lots of muscle cars. I focused on a couple Camaros because I'm trying  
to get my neighbor to work on his car, garaged for over 30 years ('67  
Camaro SS).

Anyway, enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acUAV-0N0uM

Fred - So.SF
BADROC

On Oct 16, 2010, at 11:12 PM, alvin gogineni wrote:

> We had 3 roadsters(me, Fred and Annie, Eddie and Shari), Matt's 510  
> and
> Rob's Mazda RX-4 wagon in a sea of muscle cars.
> Full write-up with pics over at http://www.zcarblog.com
> ________________________________________

From aultgc at att.net  Tue Oct 19 19:23:10 2010
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 20:23:10 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: eBay Screening
Message-ID: <2BF90A99B7D24FC0ACA02B37291E7806@gaxp1>

One of the eBay sellers who I trust and respect asked me to clarify my
comment:  It was not my intent to suggest that all eBay auppliers are to be
avoided.  There are, however, some I personally would like to screen out of my
searches because I have found them to be ignorant of the proper application(s)
for the parts they offer, or just generally jerks.

Others may have no problem with these sellers, so I am not about to post a
listing of those suppliers I will not do business with and would like to
screen out of searches, because it would only provoke accusations of "flaming"
and generally generate negative discourse.  I will, however, be happy to
discuss my "problem children" with my friends off List.

There are many reliable suppliers who list on eBay.  Caveat emptor.

Gary

----- Original Message -----
From: Gary and Cindy Ault
To: Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 9:30 PM
Subject: eBay Screening


Is there some way to screen specific sellers out in an eBay search?  There are
several with whom I will never do business because they have no clue about the
correct year for their parts, or they're peddling car covers or radiators.  It
would greatly simplify searching for items I might consider if I could
eliminate those whose products are not and never will be of interest.

Contacting eBay, as you probably know, is a waste of time because that
bottom-feeding operation never responds to any inquiry.

Gary

From lmflaming at comcast.net  Wed Oct 20 08:36:45 2010
From: lmflaming at comcast.net (lmflaming at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:36:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] roadster trans clutch
Message-ID: <1642991730.67583.1287585405126.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Everyone

I have removed the the clutch slave cylinder from my 60 and there is no spring
in it. But the manual shows that there should be. I then removed the slave
cylinders off a 69 and 70 trans B thinking IB may be able to use a spring from
one of them and they had no springs in them either.B  Do the
cylindersB function just fine withoutB a spring?B 

Larry

From chalsted at comcast.net  Wed Oct 20 08:38:04 2010
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:38:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Dave Briscoe?  Nash Metropolitan
Message-ID: <812350593.52292.1287585484303.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

if I recall correctly, Dave had an interest in Metropolitans...there's a '60 for sale near me at $1500, 71k miles, seats and doorpanels done over, new tires and brakes, very minimal rust- guy says it could be driven back to NJ or wherever but maybe a slow trip :-) no title, came out of Alabama years ago. call or e-mail me Dave if you're interested 540-631-5852 it's black and white 
Craig 

I apologize for the non-datsun content to anyone who may be offended 

From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 20 10:49:56 2010
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 09:49:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] roadster trans clutch
In-Reply-To: <1642991730.67583.1287585405126.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1642991730.67583.1287585405126.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <883863.99450.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

larry

the spring is on the outside, from a little holed tabby thingie on the slave 
cylinder itself, to the arm of the throw out bearing.  does that make sense?

s
675MIZU
To: Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 7:36:45 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] roadster trans clutch

Everyone

I have removed the the clutch slave cylinder from my 60 and there is no spring
in it. But the manual shows that there should be. I then removed the slave
cylinders off a 69 and 70 trans B thinking IB may be able to use a spring from
one of them and they had no springs in them either.B  Do the
cylindersB function just fine withoutB a spring?B 

Larry
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Wed Oct 20 11:11:33 2010
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 17:11:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] roadster trans clutch
In-Reply-To: <1642991730.67583.1287585405126.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <987233919.79478.1287594693430.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

The early 1600B clutch slave cylinders had an internal spring (
http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Images/46-1.gif ) but the later ones didn't (
http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Images/46-2.gif ). Don't know about the 1960's.



Gordon
----- Original Message -----
From: lmflaming at comcast.net
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Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 7:36:45 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] roadster trans clutch

Everyone

I have removed the the clutch slave cylinder from my 60 and there is no spring
in it. But the manual shows that there should be. I then removed the slave
cylinders off a 69 and 70 trans B thinking IB may be able to use a spring from
one of them and they had no springs in them either.B B Do the
cylindersB function just fine withoutB a spring?B

Larry
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From keithddowning at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 20 11:40:42 2010
From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:40:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] roadster trans clutch
In-Reply-To: <987233919.79478.1287594693430.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <987233919.79478.1287594693430.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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I recently dropped my clutch slave, which then sort of came apart.  When I
went 
to put it back together, I couldn't find the internal spring. I assumed
it went 
flying accross the floor somewhere.  I looked and looked for it, but
couldn't 
find it.  I ended up buying a new clutch slave from
Datsunparts.com.  The parts 
manual for my '68 2000 shows the spring listed as
item # 2 on the image.  


http://fototime.com/B5057B54F6940F2/orig.jpg

Keith
Downing




________________________________
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To: lmflaming at comcast.net
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Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 10:11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] roadster trans clutch

The early 1600B clutch slave
cylinders had an internal spring (
http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Images/46-1.gif ) but the later ones didn't (
http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Images/46-2.gif ). Don't know about the 1960's.
Gordon
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7:36:45 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] roadster trans clutch

Everyone

I have
removed the the clutch slave cylinder from my 60 and there is no spring
in it.
But the manual shows that there should be. I then removed the slave
cylinders
off a 69 and 70 trans B thinking IB may be able to use a spring from
one of
them and they had no springs in them either.B B Do the
cylindersB function
just fine withoutB a spring?B

Larry
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From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 20 11:51:19 2010
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:51:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] roadster trans clutch
In-Reply-To: <722594.12503.qm@web83308.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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is that spring at the top of the diagram the one you and Gordon are saying is 
internal?  i don't get it, as it is (as on mine) on the outside of the 
cylinder.  what am i missing?

s
675MIZU




________________________________
From: Keith Downing <keithddowning at yahoo.com>
To: Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>; lmflaming at comcast.net
Cc: Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 10:40:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] roadster trans clutch

I recently dropped my clutch slave, which then sort of came apart.  When I
went 
to put it back together, I couldn't find the internal spring. I assumed
it went 
flying accross the floor somewhere.  I looked and looked for it, but
couldn't 
find it.  I ended up buying a new clutch slave from
Datsunparts.com.  The parts 
manual for my '68 2000 shows the spring listed as
item # 2 on the image.  


http://fototime.com/B5057B54F6940F2/orig.jpg

Keith
Downing




________________________________
From: Gordon Glasgow
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To: lmflaming at comcast.net
Cc: Roadster List
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 10:11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] roadster trans clutch

The early 1600B clutch slave
cylinders had an internal spring (
http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Images/46-1.gif ) but the later ones didn't (
http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Images/46-2.gif ). Don't know about the 1960's.
Gordon
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Subject: [Roadsters] roadster trans clutch

Everyone

I have
removed the the clutch slave cylinder from my 60 and there is no spring
in it.
But the manual shows that there should be. I then removed the slave
cylinders
off a 69 and 70 trans B thinking IB may be able to use a spring from
one of
them and they had no springs in them either.B B Do the
cylindersB function
just fine withoutB a spring?B

Larry
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From dboerst at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 20 14:15:00 2010
From: dboerst at yahoo.com (David Boerst)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 13:15:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel pump
Message-ID: <47590.44854.qm@web58606.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Thanks for the info! Asfor the fuel line positioning I live in Arizona close to Phoenix and it gets H=O=T. Can fry a egg on the side walk during summer and on the rear deck lid of my 1600 ! I don't understand why the fuel lines are so close to the thermostat housing and on top of the intake/exhaust manifolds. I have 1 1970 1600 and it likes to vapor lock in the summer. I re-routed the fuel line and it is better now.

From notoptoy at live.com  Wed Oct 20 15:41:23 2010
From: notoptoy at live.com (Tom Lorick)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 17:41:23 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch slave spring
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I believe they are referring to #2 in the diagram.  You are correct that the
spring at the top is outside of the clutch slave and attaches to the Fork.

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From graemes at internode.on.net  Wed Oct 20 17:07:22 2010
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 09:37:22 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel pump
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I can relate to your environment, I'm in South Oz and we get very hot
summers too!
You could try wrapping the engine bay lines in an insulating wrap so that
the engine doesn't heat them up.
Since the car was designed in Japan which is a more temperate climate, we
might have to take measures not envisaged by the factory.

"Fuel pump

Thanks for the info! Asfor the fuel line positioning I live in Arizona close
to Phoenix and it gets H=O=T. Can fry a egg on the side walk during summer
and on the rear deck lid of my 1600 ! I don't understand why the fuel lines
are so close to the thermostat housing and on top of the intake/exhaust
manifolds. I have 1 1970 1600 and it likes to vapor lock in the summer. I
re-routed the fuel line and it is better now."

From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net  Wed Oct 20 20:15:34 2010
From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 20:15:34 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
Subject: [Roadsters] Rebuild kitsfor mechanical fuel pump?
Message-ID: <10363431.1287627334931.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Since you already have an electric pump, a new good quality electric fuel pump, putting out 4-7psi, should do the trick for much less than $100.  Good luck, Dewey    


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>Sent: Oct 18, 2010 11:02 PM
>To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>Subject: [Roadsters] Rebuild kitsfor mechanical fuel pump?
>
>Is there such a animal? Been having fuel delivery and carb problems with "The Orange Burst" since Amy bought it. It has a electric fuel pump at the gas tank but it is not pumping enough fuel. Yes have gone through fuel filters, blowing out lines, screens in carbs. It IS the fuel delivery. Question: Why did Datsun run the fuel lines so close to the thermostat housing and exhaust manifold? 
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From dave at ranteer.com  Thu Oct 21 07:02:44 2010
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 08:02:44 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] [SPAM] Re:  Rebuild kitsfor mechanical fuel  pump?
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?I use an electric on my car.  just bought another one for 39.99 at pep 
boys; puts out 2-3 psi

standard small block chevy blanking plate works fine.  also available from 
www.goodparts.com (same as a triumph tr6) 

From phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov  Thu Oct 21 07:18:26 2010
From: phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED10))
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 08:18:26 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] [SPAM] Re: Rebuild kitsfor mechanical fuel pump?
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Message-ID: <C8E5A7D2.4E48%phillip.b.hall@nasa.gov>

I have found these little electric pumps work well.   Be careful on which
one you buy.  There are a few different types.  Some work only with a
recirculating  fuel system - like later Roadsters, some are good for
non-recirculating - like early cars, then there are some that work on both
(vane type).  Read the package and it will tell which type it is.

Phil
SEROC


On 10/21/10 8:02 AM, "dave" <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:

> ?I use an electric on my car.  just bought another one for 39.99 at pep
> boys; puts out 2-3 psi
>
> standard small block chevy blanking plate works fine.  also available from
> www.goodparts.com (same as a triumph tr6)
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From erik.isaksen at gmail.com  Thu Oct 21 09:49:13 2010
From: erik.isaksen at gmail.com (Eric A. Isaacson)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 10:49:13 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Non Roadster Related (Landsdowne, PA)
Message-ID: <1AC7CF3C9D2244FFB5C918D13EF443C9@zeke>

Greetings,
 
If there is anyone living near Landsdowne, PA who would like to inspect a
car for sale, I would surely appreciate it.  The car looks really nice, but
the dealer will not take a deposit and 1100 miles is a long way to drive if
it does not work out.
 
Thank you,
 
Eric Isaacson
'68 1600 665 Yellow

From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 21 14:23:22 2010
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:23:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] O/T: Be on the lookout for STOLEN RACE ITEMS
Message-ID: <687241.39568.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

hi everyone

i'm passing along this note from a NASA friend re a stolen Spec
E30 race car.

s
675MIZU



----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Jerry Kunzman
<jerry at drivenasa.com>
To: Jerry Kunzman <jerry at drivenasa.com>
Sent: Thu,
October 21, 2010 12:19:28 PM
Subject: Be on the lookout for STOLEN RACE ITEMS
Dear NASA Participant,
 
Please forgive this extra email, but one of our NASA
racers had all his stuff 
stolen.  We are trying to help out.  Here are the
details:
 
Kevin Nicholsb truck and trailer were stolen.  They recovered
them, but the 
content were gone.  Herebs a list.  If you can identify any
of this stuff for 
sale, please call the authorities ASAP.  If these guys are
not caught, you could 
be next.  Please cross post on forums and pass on this
email, as well. 

 
Thank you for your help.
 
Jerry Kunzman
Nor Cal Regional
Director
Executive Director
 
A Speedy News item for Kevin Nichols stolen race
car and gear.  
 
His #55 SE30 Race Car and other items that were in the
trailer are listed 
below.  

 
A link to a photo of his car is here:
http://www.norcalspece30.com/news/images/55%20T2%20Infineon%20Nov%2009.jpg
Thanks,
Scott
 
Stolen Sunday Night October 17th 2010
#55 SpecE30 BMW Race Car
1989 BMW 325i Spec E30 Race Car, Black and white, original color Red.
VIN
#WBAAA130XK4206180
Items of significance in car:
Cobra Evolution Seat
Optima
Battery (Red)

2007 Yamaha C3 Scooter, Blue
VIN # LPRSA33A97A103864

Extra
supplies and parts:
4x 15x7 Rota RB wheels with Toyo RA1s
8x 15x7 D-Force
wheels with Toyo RA1s
5x 15x8 TR Motorsport wheels with Hankook C5s
4x
Unmounted New Shaved RA1s
Spacers 4x5mm, 4x10mm, 4x15mm, 4x 20mm
4 Brembo
Rotors
PFC Front Pads
8x Tire totes
Car Cover
Nitrogen Tank, regulator, hose
and guage and fitting
2x 20lb Lead Ballast
Tool Bag Craftsman
Radio fittings
Harness and Antenna
Traqmate Data Acquistion
I/O Port Camera Mount 
CoolSuit,
Hoses, mount,
Pop up Canopy
Gas Can
Chrome Extinguisher
My contact info is
this e-mail address or nichols.kevin at att.net
 
also my cell is 805-801-0780
Thanks very much.
 
Kevin Nichols
Team road runner
Spec E30 NorCal #55

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Thu Oct 21 22:35:18 2010
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 00:35:18 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] O/T: Be on the lookout for STOLEN RACE ITEMS
In-Reply-To: <687241.39568.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <687241.39568.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CD3FB9A8F4F849-F5C-144E2@Webmail-m113.sysops.aol.com>

 WHERE did all this take place?

Linda








-----Original Message-----
From: steven boortz <vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com>
To: roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Oct 21, 2010 1:23 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] O/T: Be on the lookout for STOLEN RACE ITEMS


hi everyone

i'm passing along this note from a NASA friend re a stolen Spec
E30 race car.

s
675MIZU



----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Jerry Kunzman
<jerry at drivenasa.com>
To: Jerry Kunzman <jerry at drivenasa.com>
Sent: Thu,
October 21, 2010 12:19:28 PM
Subject: Be on the lookout for STOLEN RACE ITEMS
Dear NASA Participant,

Please forgive this extra email, but one of our NASA
racers had all his stuff
stolen.  We are trying to help out.  Here are the
details:

Kevin Nicholsb truck and trailer were stolen.  They recovered
them, but the
content were gone.  Herebs a list.  If you can identify any
of this stuff for
sale, please call the authorities ASAP.  If these guys are
not caught, you could
be next.  Please cross post on forums and pass on this
email, as well.


Thank you for your help.

Jerry Kunzman
Nor Cal Regional
Director
Executive Director

A Speedy News item for Kevin Nichols stolen race
car and gear.

His #55 SE30 Race Car and other items that were in the
trailer are listed
below.


A link to a photo of his car is here:
http://www.norcalspece30.com/news/images/55%20T2%20Infineon%20Nov%2009.jpg
Thanks,
Scott

Stolen Sunday Night October 17th 2010
#55 SpecE30 BMW Race Car
1989 BMW 325i Spec E30 Race Car, Black and white, original color Red.
VIN
#WBAAA130XK4206180
Items of significance in car:
Cobra Evolution Seat
Optima
Battery (Red)

2007 Yamaha C3 Scooter, Blue
VIN # LPRSA33A97A103864

Extra
supplies and parts:
4x 15x7 Rota RB wheels with Toyo RA1s
8x 15x7 D-Force
wheels with Toyo RA1s
5x 15x8 TR Motorsport wheels with Hankook C5s
4x
Unmounted New Shaved RA1s
Spacers 4x5mm, 4x10mm, 4x15mm, 4x 20mm
4 Brembo
Rotors
PFC Front Pads
8x Tire totes
Car Cover
Nitrogen Tank, regulator, hose
and guage and fitting
2x 20lb Lead Ballast
Tool Bag Craftsman
Radio fittings
Harness and Antenna
Traqmate Data Acquistion
I/O Port Camera Mount
CoolSuit,
Hoses, mount,
Pop up Canopy
Gas Can
Chrome Extinguisher
My contact info is
this e-mail address or nichols.kevin at att.net

also my cell is 805-801-0780
Thanks very much.

Kevin Nichols
Team road runner
Spec E30 NorCal #55
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 22 15:48:49 2010
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:48:49 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Totally O/T - Peking Paris Rally 10,
 000 miles in 37 days -  WOW!!!
Message-ID: <SNT106-W487F4692B488082394F709DF5E0@phx.gbl>

http://www.p2pvj.com/Index.aspx

From lmflaming at comcast.net  Fri Oct 22 21:25:25 2010
From: lmflaming at comcast.net (lmflaming at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 03:25:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] clutch spring
Message-ID: <60615952.95340.1287804325304.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Does anyone have the inside slave cylinder spring to sell or will let me know its dimensions and I can probably buy one a Ace hardware. 

Larry 

From RacerY at comcast.net  Fri Oct 22 23:22:38 2010
From: RacerY at comcast.net (Toby B)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 22:22:38 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] rope seals
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=paP5FTyUzcXqkVj3LMq08+gCTHBuR4S20enXe@mail.gmail.com>

I looked into it a few (15) years ago-
there are 2 problems that I recall.
First, the groove for the rope is not square,
but bevelled, so the standard square section
seals don't fit.
Second, it's not finish machined, so there's significant
roughness to the... boring?  It almost looks planed, but that's not possible.
It might even be 'as cast'

At any rate, I learned my lesson, soaked the second rope in oil for a
week, and it leaks less than either of my road- going BMW's now...

What I remember,

Toby
Seattle

 > Has anyone ever modified the R16 to a modern lip seal?  I know there are
> kits for MGs.
>
> As I hope to assemble my engine soon, it would be great if there were a
> "less-leaky" option.
>
> TIA
>
> Tim

From escarcega at cox.net  Sat Oct 23 12:20:23 2010
From: escarcega at cox.net (Marty Escarcega)
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 11:20:23 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Mastery Cylinder Rebuild Kits
In-Reply-To: <mailman.20.1287856804.27555.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <20101023142023.HC3HL.352010.imail@fed1rmwml33>

What does everyone do when they need a master cylinder or need a rebuild kit for one? Mine is working, I think I have located everything to rebuild the calipers and the rear wheel cylinders (the did not appear pitted), I have hoses coming for the brake and the clutch, just need to source a master cylinder rebuild kit for the 67 SPL311 1600.

Arizona Brake and Clutch is local and I believe they can reline the rear shoes for me. 

Thanks
Marty & Kelsey
Mesa, AZ

From aultgc at att.net  Sat Oct 23 15:46:00 2010
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 16:46:00 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Mastery Cylinder Rebuild Kits
References: <20101023142023.HC3HL.352010.imail@fed1rmwml33>
Message-ID: <DA93349DDC294C719662587F162CB7FC@gaxp1>

The brake rebuild parts are usually available on eBay.  If not, check the 
list of "Vendors" on 311s.org.  Some will have the kits, others may not, but 
a little research on-line will answer the question.  But, if the M/C isn't 
leaking and the brakes stop evenly, I'd leave it alone.

I'd put silicone fluid in the system, though.  Here's what I did many, many 
years ago:

1.  Drained the existing fluid, pumping the pedal with one bleeder at a time 
open..

2.  Filled system with denatured alcohol (to get the petroleum-based fluid 
remaining).

3.  Drained the alcohol, again, pumping each line separately.

3.  Flushed the system with about three volumes of fresh silicone fluid, one 
line at a time..

Flush and bleed the brake M/C before starting on the system.

The key point is to get the alcohol out of the system, because it will 
vaporize when heated, and that's a bad thing.  Never had a problem with the 
brakes or the clutch.

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marty Escarcega" <escarcega at cox.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 1:20 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Mastery Cylinder Rebuild Kits


> What does everyone do when they need a master cylinder or need a rebuild 
> kit for one? Mine is working, I think I have located everything to rebuild 
> the calipers and the rear wheel cylinders (the did not appear pitted), I 
> have hoses coming for the brake and the clutch, just need to source a 
> master cylinder rebuild kit for the 67 SPL311 1600.
>
> Arizona Brake and Clutch is local and I believe they can reline the rear 
> shoes for me.
>
> Thanks
> Marty & Kelsey
> Mesa, AZ
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sat Oct 23 18:08:28 2010
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 17:08:28 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Mastery Cylinder Rebuild Kits
In-Reply-To: <DA93349DDC294C719662587F162CB7FC@gaxp1>
References: <20101023142023.HC3HL.352010.imail@fed1rmwml33>
	<DA93349DDC294C719662587F162CB7FC@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <008801cb730f$9667cd80$c3376880$@net>

Flushing w/ alcohol sounds like a good idea -IF- you're changing fluid
types. As for silicone (DOT 5) vs regular (DOT 3/4/5.1), the debate rages
on. I highly recommend taking a little time doing some research and making
your own decision.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary and Cindy
Ault
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 2:46 PM
To: Marty Escarcega; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Mastery Cylinder Rebuild Kits

The brake rebuild parts are usually available on eBay.  If not, check the 
list of "Vendors" on 311s.org.  Some will have the kits, others may not, but

a little research on-line will answer the question.  But, if the M/C isn't 
leaking and the brakes stop evenly, I'd leave it alone.

I'd put silicone fluid in the system, though.  Here's what I did many, many 
years ago:

1.  Drained the existing fluid, pumping the pedal with one bleeder at a time

open..

2.  Filled system with denatured alcohol (to get the petroleum-based fluid 
remaining).

3.  Drained the alcohol, again, pumping each line separately.

3.  Flushed the system with about three volumes of fresh silicone fluid, one

line at a time..

Flush and bleed the brake M/C before starting on the system.

The key point is to get the alcohol out of the system, because it will 
vaporize when heated, and that's a bad thing.  Never had a problem with the 
brakes or the clutch.

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
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To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 1:20 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Mastery Cylinder Rebuild Kits


> What does everyone do when they need a master cylinder or need a rebuild 
> kit for one? Mine is working, I think I have located everything to rebuild

> the calipers and the rear wheel cylinders (the did not appear pitted), I 
> have hoses coming for the brake and the clutch, just need to source a 
> master cylinder rebuild kit for the 67 SPL311 1600.
>
> Arizona Brake and Clutch is local and I believe they can reline the rear 
> shoes for me.
>
> Thanks
> Marty & Kelsey
> Mesa, AZ
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From northgaroadsters at gmail.com  Mon Oct 25 09:49:44 2010
From: northgaroadsters at gmail.com (P C)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:49:44 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Parting Out 1966 SPL311 r16
References: <7A3D01C3-C258-4783-BEF5-814200F9A66B@gmail.com>
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Patrick

Begin forwarded message:

> From: P C <northgaroadsters at gmail.com>
> Date: September 29, 2010 11:52:57 AM EDT
> To: "Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" <Datsun- 
> roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Parting Out 1966 SPL311 r16
>

> Parts for sale
>
> Alternator
> Distributor
> Radiator
> Radiator support
> Radiator hoses top and bottom
> Overflow tank
> Airbox with filter
> Intake with carbs
> Fuel pump
> Filler neck with breather hose
> Gas tank
> Gas tank straps
> J hooks
> Sending unit cover
> Center console
> Glove box
> Glove box door
> Glove box door lock
> Fuel gauge
> Amp gauge
> Water temp gauge
> Oil pressure gauge
> Tachometer
> Dash Switches--
> Lights, fog, wiper, heat
> Choke cable
> Ignition with key
> Dimmer
> Driver Seat
> Pass. Seat
> Steering wheel
> 14" steel wheels
> Wiper arms
> Wiper motor
> Water pump
> Thermostat
> Thermostat housing
> Fan
> Fan pulley
> Crank pulley
> Hardtop
> Hood
> Doors
> Door Windows
> Quarter windows
> Quarter window holder driver
> Quarter window pivot driver
> Quarter window frame driver
> Window regulators
> Window channel rear
> Window holder
> Roll up handle
> Door handles outside
> Door handles inside
> Door pull handles
> Door locks
> Door latch passenger
> Bodyside door striker latches
> Door hinges
> Front grille
> Vent grille
> Trunk
> Trunk garnish
> Fenders
> Trunk hold bars
> Seat belts
> Headlights
> Headlight buckets
> Headlight bezels
> Front directionals and bezels
> Tail light housings and bezels
> Antenna
> Door sill plates
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> Inside rocker trim 6 pieces
> R16
> Crankshaft
> Camshaft
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>
> Email any questions to
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> Thanks

From jake7140 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 25 20:07:36 2010
From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 19:07:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] SOT: Is this a patrol?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.19.1287684003.19973.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.19.1287684003.19973.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <432983.5750.qm@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

http://jakenet.homeip.net/2010-CostRica/slides/DSC00082.html

Lucky to get a pic as I was buzzin by on potholed gravel roads....

Steve

Steve's racing web site
     www.NoNameRacing.com
Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society
     www.elrss.com




________________________________

From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 26 17:08:10 2010
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:08:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Auto Brochure Site
Message-ID: <602255.83416.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

This is mostly US cars, but interesting
 
http://www.lov2xlr8.no/broch1.html
 
JimG 69 2K

From escarcega at cox.net  Wed Oct 27 06:19:49 2010
From: escarcega at cox.net (Marty Escarcega)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 05:19:49 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Drum and Rotor specs
Message-ID: <000001cb75d1$405c3330$c1149990$@net>

Does anyone have the min-max specs for the drums and rotors on the 67
Roadster? Are they in print? I didn't see them in the manuals on 311SPL.org

Marty

From lmflaming at comcast.net  Wed Oct 27 06:39:28 2010
From: lmflaming at comcast.net (lmflaming at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 12:39:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Drum and Rotor specs
In-Reply-To: <000001cb75d1$405c3330$c1149990$@net>
Message-ID: <349174087.288214.1288183168885.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Marty

Looking in my Chiltons Datsun book it says the minimum thickness is .331 thick
and rotor runout must not excede .0024. Also the car parts stores in my Denver
area would not turn mine because their books on the specs do not go back that
far. But they said ifB I were to bring in my Book with the specs called out in
it they would except that and turn them for me.B 

Larry
----- Original Message -----
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To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:19:49 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Drum and Rotor specs

Does anyone have the min-max specs for the drums and rotors on the 67
Roadster? Are they in print? I didn't see them in the manuals on 311SPL.org

Marty
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Oct 27 09:06:44 2010
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 08:06:44 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Drum and Rotor specs
In-Reply-To: <000001cb75d1$405c3330$c1149990$@net>
References: <000001cb75d1$405c3330$c1149990$@net>
Message-ID: <000c01cb75e8$91c72100$b5556300$@net>

Rotor min/max thickness in Brakes section of 311s.org TechWiki. 

I thought the drums had the max inside diameter stamped into it, at least
the steel ones. Experts?

Pete

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Marty
Escarcega
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 5:20 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Drum and Rotor specs

Does anyone have the min-max specs for the drums and rotors on the 67
Roadster? Are they in print? I didn't see them in the manuals on 311SPL.org

Marty
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 27 10:00:29 2010
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 09:00:29 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] o/t Datsun Wagon
Message-ID: <SNT106-W1D9177EDFCE3EDCFA7948DF430@phx.gbl>

no connectionhttp://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/2026575914.html

From aultgc at att.net  Wed Oct 27 11:26:46 2010
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 10:26:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Drum and Rotor specs
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	<000c01cb75e8$91c72100$b5556300$@net>
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Pete,

I think you're right.  I cannot, however, say for certain.  I think
they were 
stamped on the inside face, near the OD.

Gary
To: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, October
27, 2010 10:06:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake Drum and Rotor specs
Rotor min/max thickness in Brakes section of 311s.org TechWiki. 

I thought
the drums had the max inside diameter stamped into it, at least
the steel
ones. Experts?

Pete

-----Original Message-----
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Escarcega
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 5:20 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Drum and Rotor specs

Does anyone have the min-max
specs for the drums and rotors on the 67
Roadster? Are they in print? I didn't
see them in the manuals on 311SPL.org

Marty
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From bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com  Wed Oct 27 17:29:09 2010
From: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com (Brian Hollands)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 19:29:09 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Drum and Rotor specs
In-Reply-To: <000001cb75d1$405c3330$c1149990$@net>
References: <000001cb75d1$405c3330$c1149990$@net>
Message-ID: <009001cb762e$c1b5a030$0302a8c0@IBM>

I think all the 1600 and 2000 drums are the same but the aluminum drums
specs are 9.00 inch inside diameter with a maximum ID of 9.040 and a wear
limit of 9.055 inches.
I've found that at 9.040, it can be difficult to get a firm pedal no matter
how much you bleed the system.  Either way, the rear shoes need to be
properly adjusted or you'll be chasing a soft pedal.
Once my drums got a bit further out of spec than I was happy with, I had a
set of shoes relined with a thicker friction material.  A truck brake shop
did it for me.  In case there's concern with that tactic, I've autocrossed
for several seasons on those shoes...
Brian H
'69 2000
Tampa, FL

-----Original Message-----

Does anyone have the min-max specs for the drums and rotors on the 67
Roadster? Are they in print? I didn't see them in the manuals on 311SPL.org

From antonywardle at gmail.com  Wed Oct 27 18:04:41 2010
From: antonywardle at gmail.com (antony wardle)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:04:41 +1100
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Drum and Rotor specs
In-Reply-To: <009001cb762e$c1b5a030$0302a8c0@IBM>
References: <000001cb75d1$405c3330$c1149990$@net>
	<009001cb762e$c1b5a030$0302a8c0@IBM>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik6N5GQVGOFg8W=EJy-4KTW9w4rJytMMQ6wQpUu@mail.gmail.com>

has anyone converted to discs all around?

kiwi


On 28 October 2010 10:29, Brian Hollands <bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> I think all the 1600 and 2000 drums are the same but the aluminum drums
> specs are 9.00 inch inside diameter with a maximum ID of 9.040 and a wear
> limit of 9.055 inches.
> I've found that at 9.040, it can be difficult to get a firm pedal no matter
> how much you bleed the system.  Either way, the rear shoes need to be
> properly adjusted or you'll be chasing a soft pedal.
> Once my drums got a bit further out of spec than I was happy with, I had a
> set of shoes relined with a thicker friction material.  A truck brake shop
> did it for me.  In case there's concern with that tactic, I've autocrossed
> for several seasons on those shoes...
> Brian H
> '69 2000
> Tampa, FL
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> Does anyone have the min-max specs for the drums and rotors on the 67
> Roadster? Are they in print? I didn't see them in the manuals on 311SPL.org
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Oct 27 18:50:42 2010
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:50:42 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Anyone convert to discs all around?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik6N5GQVGOFg8W=EJy-4KTW9w4rJytMMQ6wQpUu@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000001cb75d1$405c3330$c1149990$@net>
	<009001cb762e$c1b5a030$0302a8c0@IBM>
	<AANLkTik6N5GQVGOFg8W=EJy-4KTW9w4rJytMMQ6wQpUu@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004501cb763a$263661b0$72a32510$@net>

Not me, but others have. Visit 311s.org.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of antony wardle
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 5:05 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake Drum and Rotor specs

has anyone converted to discs all around?

kiwi

From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Wed Oct 27 19:14:38 2010
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 20:14:38 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Drum and Rotor specs
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik6N5GQVGOFg8W=EJy-4KTW9w4rJytMMQ6wQpUu@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000001cb75d1$405c3330$c1149990$@net>
	<009001cb762e$c1b5a030$0302a8c0@IBM>
	<AANLkTik6N5GQVGOFg8W=EJy-4KTW9w4rJytMMQ6wQpUu@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimh8w2EJ--erTxOWyyjyvg6z7DPKWhYfE8c3cuA@mail.gmail.com>

> has anyone converted to discs all around?
>

It's been discussed in a couple of contexts. One discussed swapping in
the entire rear axle assembly from a late 1st gen RX-7. There may be
some cutting involved, but I don't remember. This setup comes with
both an LSD diff and disks, IIRC. Not sure how available parts are for
these units or what the axle assemblies or parts cost.

The second involved ordering a complete custom axle from Moser,
Currie, etc. IIRC, cost was around $1500, maybe a bit more with the
rear disk setup. The good deal here is that service parts are are
readily available and cheap, and you can get any gear ratio you want
for cheap, too.

FWIW,
Ron

From jsk977 at optonline.net  Wed Oct 27 21:20:49 2010
From: jsk977 at optonline.net (J KRAKAUER)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 23:20:49 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Drum and Rotor specs
References: <000001cb75d1$405c3330$c1149990$@net>
	<009001cb762e$c1b5a030$0302a8c0@IBM>
Message-ID: <32DC37C7D62E412E9B483717CA316C00@HP1450>

Probably can't find a shop that does it anymore, but back in the day the way 
to address this was to have the shoes arc ground to match the exact diameter 
of the turned drum. It was a simple machine and would cost about a buck or 
two for each shoe.

Jerry krakauer
SRL311 00099

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Hollands" <bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com>
To: "'Marty Escarcega'" <escarcega at cox.net>
Cc: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake Drum and Rotor specs


>I think all the 1600 and 2000 drums are the same but the aluminum drums
> specs are 9.00 inch inside diameter with a maximum ID of 9.040 and a wear
> limit of 9.055 inches.
> I've found that at 9.040, it can be difficult to get a firm pedal no 
> matter
> how much you bleed the system.  Either way, the rear shoes need to be
> properly adjusted or you'll be chasing a soft pedal.
> Once my drums got a bit further out of spec than I was happy with, I had a
> set of shoes relined with a thicker friction material.  A truck brake shop
> did it for me.  In case there's concern with that tactic, I've autocrossed
> for several seasons on those shoes...
> Brian H
> '69 2000
> Tampa, FL

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Oct 27 21:48:55 2010
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 20:48:55 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Drum and Rotor specs
In-Reply-To: <32DC37C7D62E412E9B483717CA316C00@HP1450>
References: <000001cb75d1$405c3330$c1149990$@net>
	<009001cb762e$c1b5a030$0302a8c0@IBM>
	<32DC37C7D62E412E9B483717CA316C00@HP1450>
Message-ID: <005601cb7653$0c01f890$2405e9b0$@net>

Yeah, I remember folks turning drums from a van. Friend did that when he
first got out of the Navy...mid-Seventies.

There's a shop near me that still does it, but not for a buck or two. Cost
me $160 for the front and rears on my 411.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of J KRAKAUER
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 8:21 PM
To: Brian Hollands; 'Marty Escarcega'
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake Drum and Rotor specs

Probably can't find a shop that does it anymore, but back in the day the way

to address this was to have the shoes arc ground to match the exact diameter

of the turned drum. It was a simple machine and would cost about a buck or 
two for each shoe.

Jerry krakauer
SRL311 00099
cast.net

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Oct 27 21:49:58 2010
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 20:49:58 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Drum and Rotor specs
Message-ID: <005701cb7653$31583aa0$9408afe0$@net>

Well, Gary, I'm wrong. :--( 

Went out and pulled aluminum drum off late model rear end. No markings
anywhere on the inside. Can't tell on the outside as some PO painted it with
hard, glossy maroon. Need to bead blast it off.

Pulled steel drum off my '66 and wire-wheeled it pretty clean....zip...

Then checked a set of my 411 steel drums..nada.. 

Checked The Roadster Book..nope... 

Searched 311s.org..strike five.

Wait a minute! 510 brake shoes fit, so maybe there's specs for the
dime...search the web..AAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGH! 

FWIW, Chilton's Repair Manual for various 1973-89 Datsun/Nissans (part no.
7170, page 442) shows rear brake drum diameter as 9-inch with a maximum of
9.060. I was gonna say go with that unless someone has better info..and
Brian did.

So, Brian, where did you find this info, or is it just tribal knowledge?

Pete

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Oct 27 21:53:28 2010
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 20:53:28 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Drum and Rotor specs
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimh8w2EJ--erTxOWyyjyvg6z7DPKWhYfE8c3cuA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000001cb75d1$405c3330$c1149990$@net>
	<009001cb762e$c1b5a030$0302a8c0@IBM>
	<AANLkTik6N5GQVGOFg8W=EJy-4KTW9w4rJytMMQ6wQpUu@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimh8w2EJ--erTxOWyyjyvg6z7DPKWhYfE8c3cuA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005801cb7653$ae919250$0bb4b6f0$@net>

http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9547

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ronnie Day
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:15 PM
To: Roadster List
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake Drum and Rotor specs

> has anyone converted to discs all around?
>

It's been discussed in a couple of contexts. One discussed swapping in
the entire rear axle assembly from a late 1st gen RX-7. There may be
some cutting involved, but I don't remember. This setup comes with
both an LSD diff and disks, IIRC. Not sure how available parts are for
these units or what the axle assemblies or parts cost.

[snip]

FWIW,
Ron

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu Oct 28 12:26:46 2010
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:26:46 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Lego 510
Message-ID: <002d01cb76cd$ae986fb0$0bc94f10$@net>

http://mocpages.com/moc.php/223804

So, Alvin...how about a Lego roadster? <g>

Pete

From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Thu Oct 28 12:45:22 2010
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (nmleeds at mindspring.com)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:45:22 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Lego 510
Message-ID: <33010316.1288291522471.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Ohh, it looks like someone found Datsun's original engineering model for the 510.  So sad what the Japanese and Swedish automotive industries had to do during the famous clay shortages of the 1970's and 80's.  


-----Original Message-----
>From: Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
>Sent: Oct 28, 2010 11:26 AM
>To: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Lego 510
>
>http://mocpages.com/moc.php/223804
>
>So, Alvin...how about a Lego roadster? <g>
>
>Pete
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From alvingogi at gmail.com  Thu Oct 28 22:01:17 2010
From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 21:01:17 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 11/1 Laguna Seca FREE!!!!
Message-ID: <AANLkTikk9v3mNmsnrotidJ3U3MA_NxMaUeLR+d-C5_d5@mail.gmail.com>

Hey guys,
Unfortunately NCRC will not allow certain convertibles to run HPDE, the
Miata being one of them.
My co-worker can't drive his Miata now, and it's too late to get a refund.
SO, if you or someone you know wants to drive 'Seca for FREE this Monday,
please let me know asap!!!!!

From lmflaming at comcast.net  Fri Oct 29 23:11:06 2010
From: lmflaming at comcast.net (lmflaming at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 05:11:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun horn repair
Message-ID: <1186676823.446484.1288415466125.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Does anyone know who repairs horns? Both of them on my 60 roadster need
repairing. They are MIYAMOTOB  MODEL-SS 12 VOLT 5.5 AMP. Maybe someone knows
ofB  left and right horns for sale somewhere?B 

Larry

From aultgc at att.net  Fri Oct 29 23:38:26 2010
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 00:38:26 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun horn repair
References: <1186676823.446484.1288415466125.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4466F275147D4DBCAC35A981699EB141@gaxp1>

Larry,

Check the Services section in Hemmings.

Gary
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Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 12:11 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun horn repair


> Does anyone know who repairs horns? Both of them on my 60 roadster need
> repairing. They are MIYAMOTOB  MODEL-SS 12 VOLT 5.5 AMP. Maybe someone 
> knows
> ofB  left and right horns for sale somewhere?B
>
> Larry
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From graemes at internode.on.net  Sat Oct 30 00:44:26 2010
From: graemes at internode.on.net (GraemeS)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 17:14:26 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun horn repair
Message-ID: <12789.1288421066@internode.on.net>

 What exactly is wrong with the horns?
 If they just don't honk all they may need is a little adjusting.
 Most horns have a small screw adjustment on them some where which
moves the breaker points inside the horn to vary the sound.
 Over the years the points tend to burn and tarnish and become high
resistance.
 Check each horn for continuity to ground and you'll probably see a
very high resistance.
 Bear in mind there is a resistor in parallel with the horn coil to
provide a rudimentary spark quench circuit to the points so even
though you might read continuity it may not be the electromagnetic
coil.
 If the coil still refuses to function, you can dissemble the horn and
clean the contacts to get everything working again.
 Not a real hard jobby.
 You'll need to make up some new gaskets for the diaphragm but that's
about all.

 Regards,
 Graeme S.

 On Sat 30/10/10 15:41 , lmflaming at comcast.net sent:
 Does anyone know who repairs horns? Both of them on my 60 roadster
need
 repairing. They are MIYAMOTOB MODEL-SS 12 VOLT 5.5 AMP. Maybe someone
knows
 ofB left and right horns for sale somewhere?B

 Larry

From wrenchorhammer at live.com  Sat Oct 30 06:40:39 2010
From: wrenchorhammer at live.com (Jim In Virginia)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 08:40:39 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun horn repair
In-Reply-To: <1186676823.446484.1288415466125.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1186676823.446484.1288415466125.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BLU126-W13554A90ADBECB270CF101A5460@phx.gbl>

Quite a few years ago I repaired the horns on my 67 myself.  Do your horns
come apart, in other words are they held together by nuts and bolts all the
way arouind the edges?  If so, take them apart and you can free them up and
fix them.  The key point is to measure the resistance of the coil (horn wire
to horn body) and make sure there is not an open circuit, because if thats the
case the horn is burned out, although I would assume this would be rare as
they just dont get used much.

Anyway, once taken apart, you can easily see that these work by an
electromagnet causing a plate to vibrate rapidly, and in my case things were
just rusted up a little bit and "stuck".  I cleaned them up and wiped them
with some light oil and put them together and they have worked fine for many
years.  THere is also a tuning screw to adjust tone.  I tuned mine for a
somewhat old car sound.  If you march off into tuning them, you need to tune
both or they will sound disturbing.

I think on 68 or newer roadsters a more modern horn is used that does not come
apart, and like the cool vintage glass fuel filter going away, the cars in my
opinion became just a little less interesting.

And no, please dont construe this as a slight against the 68 and newer
roadsters!  The newer ones have dual circuit brakes and collapsing steering
columns, and that alone is a good reason to choose a newer one.  Each have
their advantages.

Best Regards,
Jim

Chesapeake, Virginia
> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 05:11:06 +0000
> From: lmflaming at comcast.net
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun horn repair
>
> Does anyone know who repairs horns? Both of them on my 60 roadster need
> repairing. They are MIYAMOTOB MODEL-SS 12 VOLT 5.5 AMP. Maybe someone knows
> ofB left and right horns for sale somewhere?B
>
> Larry
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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Sat Oct 30 10:10:39 2010
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 12:10:39 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun horn repair
In-Reply-To: <BLU126-W13554A90ADBECB270CF101A5460@phx.gbl>
References: <1186676823.446484.1288415466125.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<BLU126-W13554A90ADBECB270CF101A5460@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <004001cb784c$ffdb97a0$ff92c6e0$@net>

  But if you'd like another horn, I'm sure Jim Sloan has 20 or 30 of them
down at the race barn.

Paul
Ohio

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim In
Virginia
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 8:41 AM
To: lmflaming at comcast.net; Datsun Roadsters send mail
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun horn repair

Quite a few years ago I repaired the horns on my 67 myself.  Do your horns
come apart, in other words are they held together by nuts and bolts all the
way arouind the edges?  If so, take them apart and you can free them up and
fix them.  The key point is to measure the resistance of the coil (horn wire
to horn body) and make sure there is not an open circuit, because if thats
the
case the horn is burned out, although I would assume this would be rare as
they just dont get used much.

Anyway, once taken apart, you can easily see that these work by an
electromagnet causing a plate to vibrate rapidly, and in my case things were
just rusted up a little bit and "stuck".  I cleaned them up and wiped them
with some light oil and put them together and they have worked fine for many
years.  THere is also a tuning screw to adjust tone.  I tuned mine for a
somewhat old car sound.  If you march off into tuning them, you need to tune
both or they will sound disturbing.

I think on 68 or newer roadsters a more modern horn is used that does not
come
apart, and like the cool vintage glass fuel filter going away, the cars in
my
opinion became just a little less interesting.

And no, please dont construe this as a slight against the 68 and newer
roadsters!  The newer ones have dual circuit brakes and collapsing steering
columns, and that alone is a good reason to choose a newer one.  Each have
their advantages.

Best Regards,
Jim

Chesapeake, Virginia
> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 05:11:06 +0000
> From: lmflaming at comcast.net
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun horn repair
>
> Does anyone know who repairs horns? Both of them on my 60 roadster need
> repairing. They are MIYAMOTOB MODEL-SS 12 VOLT 5.5 AMP. Maybe someone
knows
> ofB left and right horns for sale somewhere?B
>
> Larry
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Sat Oct 30 10:19:02 2010
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 12:19:02 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun horn repair
In-Reply-To: <004001cb784c$ffdb97a0$ff92c6e0$@net>
References: <1186676823.446484.1288415466125.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><BLU126-W13554A90ADBECB270CF101A5460@phx.gbl>
	<004001cb784c$ffdb97a0$ff92c6e0$@net>
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 I didn't think you needed a horn in racing

Linda








-----Original Message-----
From: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net>
To: 'Jim In Virginia' <wrenchorhammer at live.com>; lmflaming at comcast.net;
'Datsun Roadsters send mail' <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:10 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun horn repair


  But if you'd like another horn, I'm sure Jim Sloan has 20 or 30 of them
down at the race barn.

Paul
Ohio

-

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Sat Oct 30 11:31:19 2010
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 13:31:19 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun horn repair
In-Reply-To: <8CD46654CB8E3E5-AF8-87D7C@Webmail-m114.sysops.aol.com>
References: <1186676823.446484.1288415466125.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><BLU126-W13554A90ADBECB270CF101A5460@phx.gbl>
	<004001cb784c$ffdb97a0$ff92c6e0$@net>
	<8CD46654CB8E3E5-AF8-87D7C@Webmail-m114.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <004f01cb7858$4473dc50$cd5b94f0$@net>

  Why do you think we have so many?  (:-)

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
ljordan704 at netscape.net
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 12:19 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun horn repair

 I didn't think you needed a horn in racing

Linda








-----Original Message-----
From: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net>
To: 'Jim In Virginia' <wrenchorhammer at live.com>; lmflaming at comcast.net;
'Datsun Roadsters send mail' <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:10 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun horn repair


  But if you'd like another horn, I'm sure Jim Sloan has 20 or 30 of them
down at the race barn.

Paul
Ohio

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From dave at ranteer.com  Sat Oct 30 16:41:12 2010
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 17:41:12 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] [SPAM]  Datsun horn repair
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References: <1186676823.446484.1288415466125.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <9B700DBEA4E5479B9484020F3CBAE4A6@ranteer.local>

?neither of the horns on my early 67 worked.  I took them apart, couldn't 
figure out how to fix them, and then put them back together.  I was rather 
surprised and self congratulatory when in fact they started working.  ergo, 
if you  just take them apart as another lister said, make sure they aren't 
stuck, you may also be surprised.

--------------------------------------------------
From: <lmflaming at comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 12:11 AM
To: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: [SPAM] [Roadsters] Datsun horn repair

> Does anyone know who repairs horns? Both of them on my 60 roadster need
> repairing. They are MIYAMOTOB  MODEL-SS 12 VOLT 5.5 AMP. Maybe someone 
> knows
> ofB  left and right horns for sale somewhere?B
>
> Larry
> ________________________________________ 

From keithddowning at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 30 20:43:53 2010
From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 19:43:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] [SPAM]  Datsun horn repair
In-Reply-To: <9B700DBEA4E5479B9484020F3CBAE4A6@ranteer.local>
References: <1186676823.446484.1288415466125.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<9B700DBEA4E5479B9484020F3CBAE4A6@ranteer.local>
Message-ID: <366397.92929.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

OK, I've been largly skimming this thread, not paying too much attention to
it, 
until I put my horns back in today and guess what;  They didn't work. 
Narrowed 
it down to the relay.  Then found out I had swapped the ground and
supply wires 
at the relay.  Ooooops.  No wonder it was heating up.  All is
fine now, horns 
work. But there was a time today I was thinking I should
review all the 
responses in this thread.

Enjoying the Ride,

Keith
________________________________
From: dave <dave at ranteer.com>
To: Roadster
List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, October 30, 2010 3:41:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] [SPAM] Datsun horn repair

?neither of the horns on
my early 67 worked.  I took them apart, couldn't figure 
out how to fix them,
and then put them back together.  I was rather surprised 
and self
congratulatory when in fact they started working.  ergo, if you  just 
take
them apart as another lister said, make sure they aren't stuck, you may 
also
be surprised.

--------------------------------------------------
From:
<lmflaming at comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 12:11 AM
To:
"Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: [SPAM] [Roadsters]
Datsun horn repair

> Does anyone know who repairs horns? Both of them on my
60 roadster need
> repairing. They are MIYAMOTOB  MODEL-SS 12 VOLT 5.5 AMP.
Maybe someone knows
> ofB  left and right horns for sale somewhere?B
> 
>
Larry
> ________________________________________
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Sat Oct 30 21:59:48 2010
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 23:59:48 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] [SPAM]  Datsun horn repair
In-Reply-To: <366397.92929.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1186676823.446484.1288415466125.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><9B700DBEA4E5479B9484020F3CBAE4A6@ranteer.local>
	<366397.92929.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CD46C732514E0F-189C-FDFE@webmail-m074.sysops.aol.com>

 I have to figure out why my horns won't stop working.LOL

Linda






-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Downing <keithddowning at yahoo.com>
To: dave <dave at ranteer.com>; Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, Oct 30, 2010 7:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] [SPAM]  Datsun horn repair


OK, I've been largly skimming this thread, not paying too much attention to
it,
until I put my horns back in today and guess what;  They didn't work.
Narrowed
it down to the relay.  Then found out I had swapped the ground and
supply wires
at the relay.  Ooooops.  No wonder it was heating up.  All is
fine now, horns
work. But there was a time today I was thinking I should
review all the
responses in this thread.

Enjoying the Ride,

Keith
________________________________
From: dave <dave at ranteer.com>
To: Roadster
List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, October 30, 2010 3:41:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] [SPAM] Datsun horn repair

?neither of the horns on
my early 67 worked.  I took them apart, couldn't figure
out how to fix them,
and then put them back together.  I was rather surprised
and self
congratulatory when in fact they started working.  ergo, if you  just
take
them apart as another lister said, make sure they aren't stuck, you may
also
be surprised.

--------------------------------------------------
From:
<lmflaming at comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 12:11 AM
To:
"Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: [SPAM] [Roadsters]
Datsun horn repair

> Does anyone know who repairs horns? Both of them on my
60 roadster need
> repairing. They are MIYAMOTOB  MODEL-SS 12 VOLT 5.5 AMP.
Maybe someone knows
> ofB  left and right horns for sale somewhere?B
>
>
Larry
> ________________________________________
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From lmflaming at comcast.net  Sat Oct 30 23:13:55 2010
From: lmflaming at comcast.net (lmflaming at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 05:13:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] [SPAM]  Datsun horn repair
In-Reply-To: <1835646893.475974.1288502029082.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <53003967.475978.1288502035108.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Will the horns work without being hooked to the relay for testing purposes. I
just hooked up wires directly to the positive and negative on my battery and
they did not work. I have documentation stating a mechanic 30 years ago put a
horn button on the steering column and put in 2 horns on the firewall. Those
horns work and are probably run thru the relay. The original ones were
disconnected which are the 2 thatB I want to have repaired.
Larry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Downing" <keithddowning at yahoo.com>
To: "dave" <dave at ranteer.com>, "Roadster List"
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 8:43:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] [SPAM] B Datsun horn repair

OK, I've been largly skimming this thread, not paying too much attention to
it,
until I put my horns back in today and guess what; B They didn't work.
Narrowed
it down to the relay. B Then found out I had swapped the ground and
supply wires
at the relay. B Ooooops. B No wonder it was heating up. B All is
fine now, horns
work. But there was a time today I was thinking I should
review all the
responses in this thread.

Enjoying the Ride,

Keith
________________________________
From: dave <dave at ranteer.com>
To: Roadster
List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, October 30, 2010 3:41:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] [SPAM] Datsun horn repair

?neither of the horns on
my early 67 worked. B I took them apart, couldn't figure
out how to fix them,
and then put them back together. B I was rather surprised
and self
congratulatory when in fact they started working. B ergo, if you B just
take
them apart as another lister said, make sure they aren't stuck, you may
also
be surprised.

--------------------------------------------------
From:
<lmflaming at comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 12:11 AM
To:
"Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: [SPAM] [Roadsters]
Datsun horn repair

> Does anyone know who repairs horns? Both of them on my
60 roadster need
> repairing. They are MIYAMOTOB B MODEL-SS 12 VOLT 5.5 AMP.
Maybe someone knows
> ofB B left and right horns for sale somewhere?B
>
>
Larry
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From graemes at internode.on.net  Sat Oct 30 23:58:47 2010
From: graemes at internode.on.net (GraemeS)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 16:28:47 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] [SPAM]  Datsun horn repair
Message-ID: <21886.1288504727@internode.on.net>

 The horns only require 12V and ground to operate, however connecting
them straight across a battery is not a good idea.
 At least use a fused supply or you might do some arc welding!
 The relay is fitted to relieve the horn button and associated wiring
from a high current load.
 If you have a Multi meter, check the horn for continuity.
 If the contact points are high resistance or open circuit, you should
still read some resistance due to the spark quench resistor that is
connected across the horn contacts.
 If they are bolted together then they can be dissembled and repaired.
 Regards,
 Graeme S.

 On Sun 31/10/10 15:43 , lmflaming at comcast.net sent:
 Will the horns work without being hooked to the relay for testing
purposes. I
 just hooked up wires directly to the positive and negative on my
battery and
 they did not work. I have documentation stating a mechanic 30 years
ago put a
 horn button on the steering column and put in 2 horns on the
firewall. Those
 horns work and are probably run thru the relay. The original ones
were
 disconnected which are the 2 thatB I want to have repaired.
 Larry

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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sun Oct 31 08:34:41 2010
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 08:34:41 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun horn repair
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While I agree with Graeme that hooking the horns straight to the battery
isn't the best idea, doing it briefly will tell you if the horns work or
not. Kinda like testing a starter.
 
Since you've determined they don't work, you've got nothing to lose if you
can take 'em apart. If not, ask Paul to send you a set from The Sloan Pile
of Non-Racing Parts.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
lmflaming at comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 10:14 PM
To: Keith Downing
Cc: Roadster List
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] [SPAM] Datsun horn repair

Will the horns work without being hooked to the relay for testing purposes.
I just hooked up wires directly to the positive and negative on my battery
and they did not work. I have documentation stating a mechanic 30 years ago
put a horn button on the steering column and put in 2 horns on the firewall.
Those horns work and are probably run thru the relay. The original ones were
disconnected which are the 2 thatB I want to have repaired.

Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
lmflaming at comcast.net
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 10:11 PM
To: Roadster List
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun horn repair

Does anyone know who repairs horns? Both of them on my 60 roadster need
repairing. They are MIYAMOTOB  MODEL-SS 12 VOLT 5.5 AMP. Maybe someone knows
ofB  left and right horns for sale somewhere?B 

Larry

From plhbauman at earthlink.net  Sun Oct 31 09:41:29 2010
From: plhbauman at earthlink.net (Paul Bauman)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 09:41:29 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun horn repair
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	<001101cb7911$23a34a60$6ae9df20$@net>
Message-ID: <1288543289.3004.16.camel@harlie.localdomain>

While I enjoy taking things apart as much as the next guy, there are
some things better left to the round file. Like broken horns. I picked
up a set of afterrmarket horns at Auto Zone on sale for about 12 bucks
each. If you get a high and low frequency unit they make a really
annoying screech, which in a small car like a roadster is just about
perfect.

Paul Bauman
Westminster, CA
67 1600


-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
To: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun horn repair
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 08:34:41 -0700

While I agree with Graeme that hooking the horns straight to the battery
isn't the best idea, doing it briefly will tell you if the horns work or
not. Kinda like testing a starter.
 
Since you've determined they don't work, you've got nothing to lose if you
can take 'em apart. If not, ask Paul to send you a set from The Sloan Pile
of Non-Racing Parts.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
lmflaming at comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 10:14 PM
To: Keith Downing
Cc: Roadster List
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] [SPAM] Datsun horn repair

Will the horns work without being hooked to the relay for testing purposes.
I just hooked up wires directly to the positive and negative on my battery
and they did not work. I have documentation stating a mechanic 30 years ago
put a horn button on the steering column and put in 2 horns on the firewall.
Those horns work and are probably run thru the relay. The original ones were
disconnected which are the 2 thatB I want to have repaired.

Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
lmflaming at comcast.net
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 10:11 PM
To: Roadster List
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun horn repair

Does anyone know who repairs horns? Both of them on my 60 roadster need
repairing. They are MIYAMOTOB  MODEL-SS 12 VOLT 5.5 AMP. Maybe someone knows
ofB  left and right horns for sale somewhere?B 

Larry
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From aultgc at att.net  Sun Oct 31 15:57:32 2010
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 17:57:32 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun horn repair
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Larry,

What he said.

I took one of these horns apart as forensic exercise, and found an open 
circuit on the hot lead on the horn housing.  I had to make a new insulator 
after I drilled out the terminal mounting, but, when I was done, I had an 
operable horn.

(I had bought a pair on eBay for a friend, and this was one of his old 
ones.)

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "GraemeS" <graemes at internode.on.net>
To: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>; 
<lmflaming at comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun horn repair


> What exactly is wrong with the horns?
> If they just don't honk all they may need is a little adjusting.
> Most horns have a small screw adjustment on them some where which
> moves the breaker points inside the horn to vary the sound.
> Over the years the points tend to burn and tarnish and become high
> resistance.
> Check each horn for continuity to ground and you'll probably see a
> very high resistance.
> Bear in mind there is a resistor in parallel with the horn coil to
> provide a rudimentary spark quench circuit to the points so even
> though you might read continuity it may not be the electromagnetic
> coil.
> If the coil still refuses to function, you can dissemble the horn and
> clean the contacts to get everything working again.
> Not a real hard jobby.
> You'll need to make up some new gaskets for the diaphragm but that's
> about all.
>
> Regards,
> Graeme S.
>
> On Sat 30/10/10 15:41 , lmflaming at comcast.net sent:
> Does anyone know who repairs horns? Both of them on my 60 roadster
> need
> repairing. They are MIYAMOTOB MODEL-SS 12 VOLT 5.5 AMP. Maybe someone
> knows
> ofB left and right horns for sale somewhere?B
>
> Larry
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From larrybraddock at ca.rr.com  Sun Oct 31 23:34:14 2010
From: larrybraddock at ca.rr.com (Larry  Braddock)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 23:34:14 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] repaint license plates
Message-ID: <EF60D5C447FC4D7582A66961D7462C01@owner4d7e0adce>

Does anyone know the color codes for repainting California black or Cal. blue
license plates.

Also, any tricks on painting the letters so it looks good?

Larry Braddock