From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 1 09:57:12 2010 From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 08:57:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Panasports Message-ID: <400772.26194.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Saw this on Los Angeles Craigslist today. Really big ones! but price right! http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/pts/1621990024.html From gogineni.alvin at gene.com Mon Mar 1 10:09:52 2010 From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 09:09:52 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Panasports In-Reply-To: <400772.26194.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <400772.26194.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <75EE2137-7243-460A-9C12-B4576DB72F4C@gene.com> Those are Rota RB-R wheels On Mar 1, 2010, at 8:57 AM, Tom PRATHER wrote: > Saw this on Los Angeles Craigslist today. Really big ones! but > price right! > > http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/pts/1621990024.html > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gogineni.alvin at gene.com From gogineni.alvin at gene.com Mon Mar 1 10:12:05 2010 From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 09:12:05 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Panasports In-Reply-To: <400772.26194.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <400772.26194.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <28F5FFC2-43F1-44BE-8D5B-51D4B65C13E5@gene.com> ps you can also get these brand new in any color for ~700, just go online On Mar 1, 2010, at 8:57 AM, Tom PRATHER wrote: > Saw this on Los Angeles Craigslist today. Really big ones! but > price right! > > http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/pts/1621990024.html > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gogineni.alvin at gene.com From arthurklin888 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 1 11:16:51 2010 From: arthurklin888 at yahoo.com (arthur lin) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:16:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Panasports In-Reply-To: <28F5FFC2-43F1-44BE-8D5B-51D4B65C13E5@gene.com> Message-ID: <438983.98715.qm@web51004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi, does anyone know the proper Panasports offset for roadster? arthur 66' 1600 --- On Mon, 3/1/10, Alvin Gogineni wrote: From: Alvin Gogineni Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Panasports To: "Tom PRATHER" Cc: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.ne roadster list" Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 10:12 AM ps you can also get these brand new in any color for ~700, just go online On Mar 1, 2010, at 8:57 AM, Tom PRATHER wrote: > Saw this on Los Angeles Craigslist today. Really big ones! but price right! > > http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/pts/1621990024.html > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gogineni.alvin at gene.co m ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/arthurklin888 at yahoo.co m From gogineni.alvin at gene.com Mon Mar 1 11:31:12 2010 From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:31:12 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Panasports In-Reply-To: <438983.98715.qm@web51004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <438983.98715.qm@web51004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: +10 to +15 in 6" wide On Mar 1, 2010, at 10:16 AM, arthur lin wrote: > Hi, > > does anyone know the proper Panasports offset for roadster? > > arthur > 66' 1600 > > --- On Mon, 3/1/10, Alvin Gogineni wrote: > > From: Alvin Gogineni > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Panasports > To: "Tom PRATHER" > Cc: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.ne roadster list" > > Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 10:12 AM > > ps you can also get these brand new in any color for ~700, just go > online > On Mar 1, 2010, at 8:57 AM, Tom PRATHER wrote: > > > Saw this on Los Angeles Craigslist today. Really big ones! but > price right! > > > > http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/pts/1621990024.html > > ________________________________________ > > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gogineni.alvin at gene.com > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/arthurklin888 at yahoo.com From twobeaners at earthlink.net Mon Mar 1 11:49:32 2010 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 12:49:32 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Distinguishing Variations of Nissan H20 Engines Message-ID: <9F70F91B1CC24B378D9D937B5FA8B5E5@lap120> FWIW, I came across this tidbit on the internet: http://www.mhnetwork.com/news/can-you-distinguish-between-the-different-varia tions-of-nissan-h20-engines/ Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed From twobeaners at earthlink.net Mon Mar 1 12:29:00 2010 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:29:00 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Broken Link - Distinguishing Variations of Nissan H20 Engines Message-ID: I think the last link was broken, try this: FWIW, I came across this tidbit on the internet: http://www.mhnetwork.com/news/can-you-distinguish-between-the-different-variations-of-nissan-h20-engines Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed From twobeaners at earthlink.net Mon Mar 1 18:07:19 2010 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:07:19 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] U20 Timing Chains Message-ID: Googling and cross referencing PCI, Cloyes (they make timing components), Rockauto, and some other parts websites finally gave me this number at NAPA: http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail ... 0191972232 It's a 94 link double-roller, with a pitch of 3/8" (For a roller chain, the distance in inches between the centers of adjacent joint members or links). Here is what I come up with for the R16 and the lower U20: http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail ... 0213525631 We need some 2000 / U20 owners to check into this if they're interested. I just spent 4 hours trying to find a part I'll never own, need, or use, but thought it might be worth it if it's the real deal. Someone who has OEM or used chains in their hand could match up the NAPA chains and see if they're the right ones. Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed From twobeaners at earthlink.net Mon Mar 1 20:18:15 2010 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 21:18:15 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] NAPA - U20 Timing Chains Message-ID: <1A60CA7D0B584460B83D7DD5DDC1363D@lap120> There seems to be a problem with the links, I checked and tested them here and on the Forum, but now they don't seem to be working. Just use the search for the "Online Shopping" and do not select for a specific vehicle. Here are the NAPA Part numbers: This is for the upper chain of the U20: NTP 94027 Here is what I come up with for the R16 and the lower U20: NTP 94054 Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed ----- Original Message ----- From: MH To: Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 7:07 PM Subject: U20 Timing Chains Googling and cross referencing PCI, Cloyes (they make timing components), Rockauto, and some other parts websites finally gave me this number at NAPA: http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail ... 0191972232 It's a 94 link double-roller, with a pitch of 3/8" (For a roller chain, the distance in inches between the centers of adjacent joint members or links). Here is what I come up with for the R16 and the lower U20: http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail ... 0213525631 We need some 2000 / U20 owners to check into this if they're interested. I just spent 4 hours trying to find a part I'll never own, need, or use, but thought it might be worth it if it's the real deal. Someone who has OEM or used chains in their hand could match up the NAPA chains and see if they're the right ones. Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed From davesmbox at aol.com Tue Mar 2 05:52:09 2010 From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 07:52:09 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Toyota woes OT Message-ID: <8CC881E4E3115F0-2904-3198@webmail-m067.sysops.aol.com> Just got a recall notice on my 2004 Tacoma truck for frame rot. I was previously told by Toyota that my truck was not affected. Their solution if there is a problem. REPLACE THE FRAME. HELLO?????? Why can't we get a Nissan recall on bad transmissions or worn timing gears or rusty rocker panels on the roadster. I can't imagine what it will take to remove the frame from a truck with 139,000 miles on it. Do they replace everything else they break like exhaust,ball joints etc when they pull it apart. Well I will know next week. Dave From eddietude at socal.rr.com Tue Mar 2 06:58:07 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 05:58:07 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Toyota woes OT In-Reply-To: <8CC881E4E3115F0-2904-3198@webmail-m067.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC881E4E3115F0-2904-3198@webmail-m067.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4B8D196F.3070301@socal.rr.com> "{Why can't we get a Nissan recall on bad transmissions or worn timing gears or rusty rocker panels on the roadster." Because those are not safety issues. A frame rotting out in a few years IS. davesmbox at aol.com wrote: > Just got a recall notice on my 2004 Tacoma truck for frame rot. I was > previously told by Toyota that my truck was not affected. Their solution if > there is a problem. > > REPLACE THE FRAME. HELLO?????? > > Why can't we get a Nissan recall on bad transmissions or worn timing gears or > rusty rocker panels on the roadster. > > I can't imagine what it will take to remove the frame from a truck with > 139,000 miles on it. Do they replace everything else they break like > exhaust,ball joints etc when they pull it apart. Well I will know next week. > > > Dave > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From printner at att.net Tue Mar 2 08:41:46 2010 From: printner at att.net (Tim Waltz) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 08:41:46 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Toyota woes OT In-Reply-To: <8CC881E4E3115F0-2904-3198@webmail-m067.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC881E4E3115F0-2904-3198@webmail-m067.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <027401caba1e$ef2428b0$cd6c7a10$@net> They'll probably offer new parts as an option at your expense. They've got to try and make some money... -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of davesmbox at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 5:52 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; conant.webb at gmail.com; g_slieker at prodigy.net Subject: [Roadsters] Toyota woes OT Just got a recall notice on my 2004 Tacoma truck for frame rot. I was previously told by Toyota that my truck was not affected. Their solution if there is a problem. REPLACE THE FRAME. HELLO?????? Why can't we get a Nissan recall on bad transmissions or worn timing gears or rusty rocker panels on the roadster. I can't imagine what it will take to remove the frame from a truck with 139,000 miles on it. Do they replace everything else they break like exhaust,ball joints etc when they pull it apart. Well I will know next week. Dave From d_kroninger at hotmail.com Tue Mar 2 11:03:07 2010 From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 12:03:07 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Toyota woes OT In-Reply-To: <027401caba1e$ef2428b0$cd6c7a10$@net> References: <8CC881E4E3115F0-2904-3198@webmail-m067.sysops.aol.com>, <027401caba1e$ef2428b0$cd6c7a10$@net> Message-ID: I would not worry about it. Toyota is a great company. They recalled like 15 years of trucks last year or two years ago for the same frame issue. My friend had a 1996 Tacoma with 180,000 miles on it. He took it to the dealer and the dealer put his entire thumb through the frame with very little effort. They told him that they could not legally let him take the truck off the lot. They gave him a free loaner car for a week. They said the truck was not worth fixing, so they gave him 1 and a half times Kelly Blue Book excellent value. His trunk was a POS as he is a construction guy and beat the hell out of it. Bottom line is that he drove the truck for 3 years and boat load of miles and got back $500 less than what he bought it for. Several other friends had received the same letter and all had the same deal of repair or 1.5 times KBB excellent. They seem to be working very hard to retain their customers. Granted the brake deal is pretty scarey, but think about how many times your ford or chevy left you stranded and what did they give you? Nothing! My two cents (and I am not even a Toyota owner) Dan > From: printner at att.net > To: davesmbox at aol.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; conant.webb at gmail.com; g_slieker at prodigy.net > Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 08:41:46 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Toyota woes OT > > They'll probably offer new parts as an option at your expense. They've got > to try and make some money... > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > davesmbox at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 5:52 AM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; conant.webb at gmail.com; > g_slieker at prodigy.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Toyota woes OT > > Just got a recall notice on my 2004 Tacoma truck for frame rot. I was > previously told by Toyota that my truck was not affected. Their solution if > there is a problem. > > REPLACE THE FRAME. HELLO?????? > > Why can't we get a Nissan recall on bad transmissions or worn timing gears > or > rusty rocker panels on the roadster. > > I can't imagine what it will take to remove the frame from a truck with > 139,000 miles on it. Do they replace everything else they break like > exhaust,ball joints etc when they pull it apart. Well I will know next week. > > > Dave > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/d_kroninger at hotmail.co m _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ From tom at datsun2000.com Tue Mar 2 12:01:39 2010 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 11:01:39 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Toyota woes OT Message-ID: I have a small automotive repair shop near me that I often refer single ladies to. They have always done a great job for the ladies and all are now regular customers because they know they are not getting ripped off. A while back I went by the shop and there was a frame sitting up against the outside wall. It was for a Ford pickup, and the wrong frame for the truck it was for. They told me that they regularly change frames by using their lift to lift the body off of the frame and swap the suspension and drive train over to the new frame because if there is any damage at all to the frame in an accident Ford does not authorize repair of any sort for safety reasons. According to the shop owner changing the frame if you have the right equipment is not all that big of a deal. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On 3/2/2010 4:52:09 AM, davesmbox at aol.com wrote: > Just got a recall notice on my 2004 Tacoma truck for frame rot. I was > previously told by Toyota that my truck was not affected. Their solution > if > there is a problem. > > REPLACE THE FRAME. From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com Tue Mar 2 12:21:29 2010 From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:21:29 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Speedometer installation Message-ID: I am about to reinstall my rebuilt (thanks again Jon Frampton) speedometer in my '67 2000. My plan was to just reconnect everything and call it good but I can't remember if there are any hints or tips that are "must dos" for this procedure. Is there anything I should/should not be doing in addition to merely reconnecting it? Thanks, Greg SRL31100494 Spokane, WA From hallosb at juno.com Tue Mar 2 12:33:17 2010 From: hallosb at juno.com (hallosb at juno.com) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 19:33:17 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] Speedometer installation Message-ID: <20100302.123317.5180.1@webmail01.vgs.untd.com> Unless you're connecting to a brand new cable, I would lube the cable with some graphite. Nothing worse than a whiny speedometer cable. Dan McHatton '66 1600 ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: 'Datsun Mailing List' Subject: [Roadsters] Speedometer installation Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:21:29 -0800 I am about to reinstall my rebuilt (thanks again Jon Frampton) speedometer in my '67 2000. My plan was to just reconnect everything and call it good but I can't remember if there are any hints or tips that are "must dos" for this procedure. Is there anything I should/should not be doing in addition to merely reconnecting it? Thanks, Greg SRL31100494 Spokane, WA ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/hallosb at juno.com ____________________________________________________________ Senior Assisted Living Put your loved ones in good hands with quality senior assisted living. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/c?cp=LEq7_7m06Bat52rcJiQW7QAAJz3b-7K uMPJffYsq3MtsBROGAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASUQAAAAA= From aultgc at att.net Tue Mar 2 12:49:01 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 13:49:01 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Speedometer installation References: Message-ID: <8B8255573E224A5C8B7A69ED8815BFC1@gaxp1> Greg, I'll echo Dan's comment about lubricating the speedo cable -- there is a graphite-based cable lube in liquid form (powered graphite in a liquid carrier) which will go down the annulus between the cable and sheath nicely. If it weren' such a b____ getting the cable off the trans end, I'd pull the cable to lube it -- that way you're sure to get lubricant all the way through. Other than that, hook it up and go. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: "'Datsun Mailing List'" Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 1:21 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Speedometer installation >I am about to reinstall my rebuilt (thanks again Jon Frampton) speedometer > in my '67 2000. My plan was to just reconnect everything and call it good > but I can't remember if there are any hints or tips that are "must dos" > for > this procedure. Is there anything I should/should not be doing in addition > to merely reconnecting it? > > Thanks, > Greg > SRL31100494 > Spokane, WA > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net Tue Mar 2 14:25:28 2010 From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 13:25:28 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [Roadsters] Weber help (not he grill type) Message-ID: <14955640.1267565128744.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> If my memory serves me correctly, there is a manual available that covers the Weber's in great detail. I cannot recall if HP, Motorsports books, or who publishes it. You might check Amazon and see if you find it there. Good luck, Dewey -----Original Message----- >From: Mark J Bradakis >Sent: Feb 28, 2010 6:38 PM >To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Weber help (not he grill type) > >> 1. How do Identify the model number? >> >> 2. Where can I find tune-up information? >> >> > >The model number should be easy. There is a flat area between the jet cover >and the front of the carb that should have something like > > 40 DCOE 18 > >stamped into it. The 40, or 45, or 42 or whatever is the size of the >bore, measured >at the manifold end of the carb, not the air intake. The DCOE is the >model, which >stands for something like dual choke horizontal xxx, I can't remember >the exact >Italian, and the 18 or whatever specifies some other parameters like the >progression >circuit type. > >Offhand I don't know of any good tuning web sites, I rely on my years of >experience. Are you having problems, or just want to know more? > >mjb. >________________________________________ >Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $16.00 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/hahlbohmd at earthlink.net From haabu at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 2 15:20:07 2010 From: haabu at sbcglobal.net (Herb Petty) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 14:20:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Speedo lube Message-ID: <311281.84749.qm@web81805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greg, Do not use grease on the cable....... I did did this, before inquiring. I had the car on a lift, removed the cable at the trans, & put a libiral amt. of grease on the cable & reinstalled it. About ( 2 ) wks later I had grease in my Speedo housing. Jon Frampton saved my ( A ) I also had to flush the cable housing & start over with graphite on the cable !! The cable acted like an Auger & moved the grease to the speedo housing. Herb Petty. :-( From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com Tue Mar 2 16:14:42 2010 From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:14:42 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Speedo install answers Message-ID: FYI: Graphite on the cable. DO NOT OIL OR GREASE. And, from The Man himself: Glad to hear you are happy with the work. The only thing I can suggest is that you make sure your "inner cable" (The part that drives the speedo) does not bottom out inside the gauge while you are tightening the cable. I've only seen it happen a few times and in that instance it will wear out your speedo in a very short time. You may even consider not cranking the threads all the way down just in case. From bmwjer at earthlink.net Tue Mar 2 22:15:34 2010 From: bmwjer at earthlink.net (JERRY KINGMAN) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:15:34 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [Roadsters] Speedometer installation Message-ID: <14215910.1267593334601.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Since we are on the speedometer topic, I have a 67' 1600 I picked up and the speedo is not working. I removed the cable from the back of the speedo and it is not moving. I then crawled under the car to remove and then re-attach the cable to the tranny. There is a nub on the cable that seems to fit in a groove in the end of the speedo gear in/on the tranny and I made sure it fit well. The cable is still NOT moving. Could the cable be broken inside? Or is it possibly the driven gear in the tranny itself? There seems to be quite a bit of grease on the tranny end of the cable. Thanks for any help. JK 67' 1600 -----Original Message----- >From: "Gregory S. Morrison" >Sent: Mar 2, 2010 11:21 AM >To: 'Datsun Mailing List' >Subject: [Roadsters] Speedometer installation > >I am about to reinstall my rebuilt (thanks again Jon Frampton) speedometer >in my '67 2000. My plan was to just reconnect everything and call it good >but I can't remember if there are any hints or tips that are "must dos" for >this procedure. Is there anything I should/should not be doing in addition >to merely reconnecting it? > >Thanks, >Greg >SRL31100494 >Spokane, WA >________________________________________ >Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $16.00 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/bmwjer at earthlink.net From tputland at charter.net Wed Mar 3 07:26:23 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 6:26:23 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] test Message-ID: <20100303092624.IKXOF.2343231.root@mp20> From tputland at charter.net Wed Mar 3 10:47:40 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 9:47:40 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] test In-Reply-To: <20100303092624.IKXOF.2343231.root@mp20> Message-ID: <20100303124740.7GP7F.2375175.root@mp14> Three and a quarter hour response time from sent to received. ---- Tim wrote: ============= ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From mark at bradakis.com Wed Mar 3 10:55:15 2010 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 10:55:15 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] test In-Reply-To: <20100303092624.IKXOF.2343231.root@mp20> References: <20100303092624.IKXOF.2343231.root@mp20> Message-ID: <4B8EA283.6070203@bradakis.com> Maybe next time I'll give a multiple choice test ;-) There was a slight problem with Team.Net mail this morning, problem fixed. Things should be back to as normal as they get around here. mjb. From stebharvey at ameritech.net Wed Mar 3 03:46:45 2010 From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 04:46:45 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Trunk key question Message-ID: <000e01cababe$d1fa6100$75ef2300$@net> I have a spare trunk lock but no key for it. Can a locksmith make a key by using the lock? Thanks Steve From mark at bradakis.com Wed Mar 3 11:24:35 2010 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:24:35 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] test In-Reply-To: <20100303092624.IKXOF.2343231.root@mp20> References: <20100303092624.IKXOF.2343231.root@mp20> Message-ID: <4B8EA963.8080300@bradakis.com> I'll just remind folks that Team.Net doesn't just appear by magic, there is a real person behind it all, putting in the necessary hours on a volunteer basis. It would be nice if it were a paying gig ( feel free to make use of the info on the page that the donate link below points to ) but it is something I just do in my spare time. Sometimes, like this morning, problems can arise and I do have a life, I don't spend 24 hours a day monitoring the servers in my basement. Sometimes it just seems that way ;-) If you want to put a face to the name, check out the first picture at http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=27 Now that I thinking about it, I'll add another forum. Later this spring I'm going to be updating a lot of the Team.Net web pages. I imagine folks on the various lists ( 60+ ) I run would like to share pictures and such in a manner structered differently than a string of forum messages. Something along the lines of what I set up a while ago, at http://www.team.net/the-local/tiki-galleries.php Stay tuned for further developments. mjb. From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Mar 3 11:38:35 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 18:38:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Trunk key question In-Reply-To: <000e01cababe$d1fa6100$75ef2300$@net> Message-ID: <1685405125.10769261267641515343.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I haven't done it, but have been told "Yes." Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Harvey" To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2010 2:46:45 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] Trunk key question I have a spare trunk lock but no key for it. Can a locksmith make a key by using the lock? Thanks Steve From twobeaners at earthlink.net Wed Mar 3 08:26:40 2010 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 09:26:40 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Speedometer installation References: <14215910.1267593334601.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4F3A0B49A22E42B19444EC1D480A8800@lap120> Once upon a time I had a speedo quit working in my 4-speed. I asked myself the same questions and checked in to the problem the same as you're doing. I eventually pulled the speedo pinion drive out of the tranny tailshaft. It's held in the tailshaft housing with a little screw and lock plate. It may be hard to see if it's covered with grime. I discovered the teeth in the nylon pinion gear were stripped and worn down. I put a new gear in and all was well. If you remove and replace the speedo pinion drive for any reason, make sure you get it seated in the correct orientation. If you look at it, you will see it is offset by design to allow it to be rotated in the tailshaft housing for proper adjustment. If it's not adjusted correctly, you'll soon wear the nylon gear down again. BTDT. This info also applies to the 5-speed tranny. Mike Hudson '67 -Stroker / 5-speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "JERRY KINGMAN" To: "'Datsun Mailing List'" Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 11:15 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Speedometer installation > Since we are on the speedometer topic, I have a 67' 1600 I picked up and > the speedo is not working. I removed the cable from the back of the speedo > and it is not moving. I then crawled under the car to remove and then > re-attach the cable to the tranny. There is a nub on the cable that seems > to fit in a groove in the end of the speedo gear in/on the tranny and I > made sure it fit well. The cable is still NOT moving. Could the cable be > broken inside? Or is it possibly the driven gear in the tranny itself? > There seems to be quite a bit of grease on the tranny end of the cable. > Thanks for any help. > > JK 67' 1600 > > > -----Original Message----- >>From: "Gregory S. Morrison" >>Sent: Mar 2, 2010 11:21 AM >>To: 'Datsun Mailing List' >>Subject: [Roadsters] Speedometer installation >> >>I am about to reinstall my rebuilt (thanks again Jon Frampton) speedometer >>in my '67 2000. My plan was to just reconnect everything and call it good >>but I can't remember if there are any hints or tips that are "must dos" >>for >>this procedure. Is there anything I should/should not be doing in addition >>to merely reconnecting it? >> >>Thanks, >>Greg >>SRL31100494 >>Spokane, WA From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Mar 3 12:10:12 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:10:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Trunk key question In-Reply-To: <1932546219.9468641267641673433.JavaMail.root@sz0008a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1248433042.10786631267643412700.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Bob replied to just me instead of the list. Pete ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Bob Ballinger" <12061997 at comcast.net> To: "Pete Peters" Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2010 10:41:13 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Trunk key question I had a locksmith turn me down here in Muncie... bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2010 1:38:35 PM GMT -05:00 Colombia Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Trunk key question I haven't done it, but have been told "Yes." Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Harvey" To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2010 2:46:45 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] Trunk key question I have a spare trunk lock but no key for it. Can a locksmith make a key by using the lock? Thanks Steve ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/12061997 at comcast.net From svedise at hotmail.com Wed Mar 3 14:31:27 2010 From: svedise at hotmail.com (Jim Svedise) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 14:31:27 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Trunk key question In-Reply-To: <1248433042.10786631267643412700.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1248433042.10786631267643412700.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: I had it done but had to give the blank to the locksmith. Got blank from Dean http://www.datsunparts.com/ and I am sure other vendors have them also. Jim 70 2000 > I had a locksmith turn me down here in Muncie... > > bob > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pete Peters" > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2010 1:38:35 PM GMT -05:00 Colombia > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Trunk key question > > I haven't done it, but have been told "Yes." > > Pete > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Harvey" > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2010 2:46:45 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: [Roadsters] Trunk key question > > I have a spare trunk lock but no key for it. Can a locksmith make a key by > using the lock? > > Thanks > > > Steve > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/12061997 at comcast.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/svedise at hotmail.com From davesmbox at aol.com Wed Mar 3 14:50:00 2010 From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 16:50:00 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Trunk key question In-Reply-To: References: <1248433042.10786631267643412700.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <8CC89329AD969DC-3F50-1656@webmail-m034.sysops.aol.com> The key code is on the center consol lock if you still have that. A locksmith can cut it from the code -----Original Message----- From: Jim Svedise To: Datsun Club Sent: Wed, Mar 3, 2010 4:31 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fwd: Trunk key question I had it done but had to give the blank to the locksmith. Got blank from Dean http://www.datsunparts.com/ and I am sure other vendors have them also. Jim 70 2000 > I had a locksmith turn me down here in Muncie... > > bob > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pete Peters" > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2010 1:38:35 PM GMT -05:00 Colombia > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Trunk key question > > I haven't done it, but have been told "Yes." > > Pete > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Harvey" > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2010 2:46:45 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: [Roadsters] Trunk key question > > I have a spare trunk lock but no key for it. Can a locksmith make a key by > using the lock? > > Thanks > > > Steve > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/12061997 at comcast.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/svedise at hotmail.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/davesmbox at aol.com From ljordan704 at netscape.net Wed Mar 3 15:08:20 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:08:20 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Trunk key question In-Reply-To: <8CC89329AD969DC-3F50-1656@webmail-m034.sysops.aol.com> References: <1248433042.10786631267643412700.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <8CC89329AD969DC-3F50-1656@webmail-m034.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CC89352B4E50A7-10B4-AD3@webmail-d007.sysops.aol.com> I got key blanks at a good locksmith, who made ignition keys. Also center console and trunk lock, as I recall are the same and should have the same code. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Jim Svedise To: Datsun Club Sent: Wed, Mar 3, 2010 4:31 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fwd: Trunk key question I had it done but had to give the blank to the locksmith. Got blank from Dean http://www.datsunparts.com/ and I am sure other vendors have them also. Jim 70 2000 > I had a locksmith turn me down here in Muncie... > > bob > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pete Peters" > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2010 1:38:35 PM GMT -05:00 Colombia > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Trunk key question > > I haven't done it, but have been told "Yes." > > Pete > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Harvey" > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2010 2:46:45 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: [Roadsters] Trunk key question > > I have a spare trunk lock but no key for it. Can a locksmith make a key by > using the lock? > > Thanks > > > Steve > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/12061997 at comcast.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/svedise at hotmail.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/davesmbox at aol.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From davesmbox at aol.com Wed Mar 3 15:22:51 2010 From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:22:51 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Trunk key question In-Reply-To: <8CC89352B4E50A7-10B4-AD3@webmail-d007.sysops.aol.com> References: <1248433042.10786631267643412700.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><8CC89329AD969DC-3F50-1656@webmail-m034.sysops.aol.com> <8CC89352B4E50A7-10B4-AD3@webmail-d007.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CC89373233C520-3F50-22D9@webmail-m034.sysops.aol.com> The ignition is different than all the others. The door,trunk and consol are the same on the 68-70 -----Original Message----- From: ljordan704 at netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Mar 3, 2010 5:08 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fwd: Trunk key question I got key blanks at a good locksmith, who made ignition keys. Also center onsole and trunk lock, as I recall are the same and should have the same ode. Linda -----Original Message----- rom: Jim Svedise o: Datsun Club ent: Wed, Mar 3, 2010 4:31 pm ubject: Re: [Roadsters] Fwd: Trunk key question had it done but had to give the blank to the locksmith. Got blank from Dean ttp://www.datsunparts.com/ and I am sure other vendors have them also. im 0 2000 > I had a locksmith turn me down here in Muncie... bob ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2010 1:38:35 PM GMT -05:00 Colombia Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Trunk key question I haven't done it, but have been told "Yes." Pete ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Harvey" stebharvey at ameritech.net> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2010 2:46:45 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] Trunk key question I have a spare trunk lock but no key for it. Can a locksmith make a key by using the lock? Thanks Steve ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: > ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/12061997 at comcast.net ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: > ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/svedise at hotmail.com _______________________________________ atsun-roadsters at autox.team.net onate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation $16.00 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe: ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/davesmbox at aol.com _______________________________________ atsun-roadsters at autox.team.net onate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation $16.00 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe: ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne _______________________________________ atsun-roadsters at autox.team.net onate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation $16.00 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/davesmbox at aol.com From jsk977 at optonline.net Wed Mar 3 15:42:00 2010 From: jsk977 at optonline.net (Jerry Krakauer) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:42:00 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Trunk key question References: <1248433042.10786631267643412700.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <8CC89329AD969DC-3F50-1656@webmail-m034.sysops.aol.com> <8CC89352B4E50A7-10B4-AD3@webmail-d007.sysops.aol.com> <8CC89373233C520-3F50-22D9@webmail-m034.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <86F3B9C11E644FC8A89D0AF4A7F3E351@HP1450> 67.5 - one key fits all, antenna excepted. Jerry Krakauer SRL311 00099 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fwd: Trunk key question > The ignition is different than all the others. The door,trunk and consol > are > the same on the 68-70 From datsuns4me at hotmail.com Wed Mar 3 16:45:39 2010 From: datsuns4me at hotmail.com (Datsun Dude) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 17:45:39 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Paging Keith Williams Message-ID: Please contact me off list. Thanks _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com Wed Mar 3 23:10:50 2010 From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 22:10:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] brake bleeding woes Message-ID: <174448.94298.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi everyone I just don't get it. How can I have clear bubble-less fluid out of all 8 bleeder screws, and still no pedal? Bad (new) master cylinder? I have volvo calipers in front. Last time out brakes were fine. Took them apart to add cooling ducts. Re-assembled and tried to bleed system, but m/c leaked out the back. Replaced with NOS aftermarket m/c. Thanks for your help S 675MIZU From bmwjer at earthlink.net Wed Mar 3 23:21:54 2010 From: bmwjer at earthlink.net (JERRY KINGMAN) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 01:21:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] Speedometer installation Message-ID: <13658026.1267683714245.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Thanks everyone for your ideas/tips for checking out my speedo cable. Yes, I still had it connected to the tranny while I was looking at the speedo end, but no spin. I'll take it completely out and check both ends as I turn it by hand; maybe it will come apart in pieces after pulling the ends. Jerry -----Original Message----- >From: gmagana at yahoo.com >Sent: Mar 2, 2010 10:59 PM >To: JERRY KINGMAN >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Speedometer installation > >hello Jerry. Did you try pulling the cable out? if its broken only the broken part will come out >good luck. Gerardo >Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > >-----Original Message----- >From: JERRY KINGMAN >Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:15:34 -0800 (GMT-08:00) >To: 'Datsun Mailing List' >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Speedometer installation > >Since we are on the speedometer topic, I have a 67' 1600 I picked up and the speedo is not working. I removed the cable from the back of the speedo and it is not moving. I then crawled under the car to remove and then re-attach the cable to the tranny. There is a nub on the cable that seems to fit in a groove in the end of the speedo gear in/on the tranny and I made sure it fit well. The cable is still NOT moving. Could the cable be broken inside? Or is it possibly the driven gear in the tranny itself? There seems to be quite a bit of grease on the tranny end of the cable. > Thanks for any help. > > JK 67' 1600 > > >-----Original Message----- >>From: "Gregory S. Morrison" >>Sent: Mar 2, 2010 11:21 AM >>To: 'Datsun Mailing List' >>Subject: [Roadsters] Speedometer installation >> >>I am about to reinstall my rebuilt (thanks again Jon Frampton) speedometer >>in my '67 2000. My plan was to just reconnect everything and call it good >>but I can't remember if there are any hints or tips that are "must dos" for >>this procedure. Is there anything I should/should not be doing in addition >>to merely reconnecting it? >> >>Thanks, >>Greg >>SRL31100494 >>Spokane, WA >>________________________________________ >>Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Suggested annual donation $16.00 >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/bmwjer at earthlink.net >________________________________________ >Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $16.00 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gerardomagana at sbcglobal.net From andycost at embarqmail.com Thu Mar 4 05:14:49 2010 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 06:14:49 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] brake bleeding woes In-Reply-To: <174448.94298.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I've had problems with air bubbles in the master cylinder. The master cylinder slopes up away from the driver. A bubble can get in the very end. All the bleeding in the world wouldn't get it out. My solution was to take the front wheels off and set the front end almost on the ground. I then jacked the rear of the car several feet up. I think I either backed the rear wheels onto the trailer or I used my engine crane to pick the rear up. Anyway, I jacked it up in the rear until a torpedo level on the master cylinder showed it was sloped slightly the other way. A few pumps with the bench bleeder screws open and a large bubble made its way through the tube. Then the brake pedal was very stiff. Andy -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of steven boortz Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:11 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] brake bleeding woes Hi everyone I just don't get it. How can I have clear bubble-less fluid out of all 8 bleeder screws, and still no pedal? Bad (new) master cylinder? I have volvo calipers in front. Last time out brakes were fine. Took them apart to add cooling ducts. Re-assembled and tried to bleed system, but m/c leaked out the back. Replaced with NOS aftermarket m/c. Thanks for your help S 675MIZU ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/andycost at embarqmail.c om From JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net Thu Mar 4 12:05:49 2010 From: JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net (JohnnyRoadster) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:05:49 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] brake bleeding woes References: <174448.94298.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: When I did mine I had the same problem. I bleed all brakes a few times, but no pressure at the pedal. It ended up that the back adjuster needed to turned a few times to get pressure. John From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Thu Mar 4 13:24:03 2010 From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:24:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] brake bleeding woes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <439328.44771.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> What is a back adjuster? (no jokes about the seat, please) Jim --- On Thu, 3/4/10, JohnnyRoadster wrote: From: JohnnyRoadster Subject: Re: [Roadsters] brake bleeding woes To: "steven boortz" , datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 2:05 PM When I did mine I had the same problem. I bleed all brakes a few times, but no pressure at the pedal. It ended up that the back adjuster needed to turned a few times to get pressure. John ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Thu Mar 4 13:55:57 2010 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:55:57 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] I second that Cost-ism, thansk Andy! Message-ID: I had struggled lots, then read this same suggestion from Andy, and now back my car up on the Rhino ramps at each bleeding, and it is going much better (lots more room to work too). No pedal seems strange for what Steve has done, I would expect some pedal but real squishy. Steve, I have some bench bleeding tubes (stole them from a 521 truck in pick-a-part, why the 521 truck had an SAE master and lines I'll never know). Let me know if you want me to send them along with the other package, which I have yet to get in the post..... Fergus From slowboy at cox.net Thu Mar 4 14:11:28 2010 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:11:28 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] brake bleeding woes In-Reply-To: <439328.44771.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <439328.44771.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <762F340F93F0427B9DA3399F3C3F9D4B@HPE170f> A back adjuster is a chiropractor. lol If you are talking about the back brakes or shoe brakes in general it is the device foe putting tension on the shoes getting them closer to the drum. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Gammon Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:24 PM To: Datsun roadster Subject: Re: [Roadsters] brake bleeding woes What is a back adjuster? (no jokes about the seat, please) Jim --- On Thu, 3/4/10, JohnnyRoadster wrote: From: JohnnyRoadster Subject: Re: [Roadsters] brake bleeding woes To: "steven boortz" , datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 2:05 PM When I did mine I had the same problem. I bleed all brakes a few times, but no pressure at the pedal. It ended up that the back adjuster needed to turned a few times to get pressure. John ________________________________________ From gboone70 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 4 15:17:28 2010 From: gboone70 at yahoo.com (Gary Boone) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:17:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] brake bleeding woes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <320313.93373.qm@web36302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Andy's solution makes perfect sense. I've always wondered if we have the same problem with the rear wheel cylinders since the bleeders are on the bottom of the cylinders. What were they thinking when they designed that? It's a bit difficult to turn the car upside down to bleed the rear brakes. ----- Original Message ---- From: Andy Cost To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 5:14:49 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] brake bleeding woes I've had problems with air bubbles in the master cylinder. The master cylinder slopes up away from the driver. A bubble can get in the very end. All the bleeding in the world wouldn't get it out. My solution was to take the front wheels off and set the front end almost on the ground. I then jacked the rear of the car several feet up. I think I either backed the rear wheels onto the trailer or I used my engine crane to pick the rear up. Anyway, I jacked it up in the rear until a torpedo level on the master cylinder showed it was sloped slightly the other way. A few pumps with the bench bleeder screws open and a large bubble made its way through the tube. Then the brake pedal was very stiff. Andy -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of steven boortz Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:11 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] brake bleeding woes Hi everyone I just don't get it. How can I have clear bubble-less fluid out of all 8 bleeder screws, and still no pedal? Bad (new) master cylinder? I have volvo calipers in front. Last time out brakes were fine. Took them apart to add cooling ducts. Re-assembled and tried to bleed system, but m/c leaked out the back. Replaced with NOS aftermarket m/c. Thanks for your help S 675MIZU ________ From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Mar 4 15:22:15 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 22:22:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] brake bleeding woes In-Reply-To: <320313.93373.qm@web36302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <911511812.11377861267741335599.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Gee, who knew you'd need a rotisserie to bleed brakes. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Boone" To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2010 2:17:28 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] brake bleeding woes Andy's solution makes perfect sense. I've always wondered if we have the same problem with the rear wheel cylinders since the bleeders are on the bottom of the cylinders. What were they thinking when they designed that? It's a bit difficult to turn the car upside down to bleed the rear brakes. ----- Original Message ---- From: Andy Cost To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 5:14:49 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] brake bleeding woes I've had problems with air bubbles in the master cylinder. The master cylinder slopes up away from the driver. A bubble can get in the very end. All the bleeding in the world wouldn't get it out. My solution was to take the front wheels off and set the front end almost on the ground. I then jacked the rear of the car several feet up. I think I either backed the rear wheels onto the trailer or I used my engine crane to pick the rear up. Anyway, I jacked it up in the rear until a torpedo level on the master cylinder showed it was sloped slightly the other way. A few pumps with the bench bleeder screws open and a large bubble made its way through the tube. Then the brake pedal was very stiff. Andy -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of steven boortz Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:11 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] brake bleeding woes Hi everyone I just don't get it. How can I have clear bubble-less fluid out of all 8 bleeder screws, and still no pedal? Bad (new) master cylinder? I have volvo calipers in front. Last time out brakes were fine. Took them apart to add cooling ducts. Re-assembled and tried to bleed system, but m/c leaked out the back. Replaced with NOS aftermarket m/c. Thanks for your help S 675MIZU ________ ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net From twobeaners at earthlink.net Thu Mar 4 15:43:10 2010 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:43:10 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] brake bleeding woes References: <320313.93373.qm@web36302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <401D11A50859457681475AC35CFFADB0@lap120> I had read somewhere on the List or Forum that a someone had pulled the axles and reversed them so the bleeders were at the top. I think I have a pic of that somewhere. I was going to do it to mine the next time I have to service the rear wheel cylinders or axles. Unfortunately this was after I had already rebuilt the rear axle and brake system. I don't want to take it all apart just for that. If I remember correctly he had to rebend some new lines going to the cylinders and modify the parking brake linkage since it was moved to the front of the axle. Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Boone" To: Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] brake bleeding woes > Andy's solution makes perfect sense. I've always wondered if we have the > same problem with the rear wheel cylinders since the bleeders are on the > bottom of the cylinders. What were they thinking when they designed that? > It's a bit difficult to turn the car upside down to bleed the rear brakes. > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Andy Cost > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 5:14:49 AM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] brake bleeding woes > > I've had problems with air bubbles in the master cylinder. The master > cylinder slopes up away from the driver. A bubble can get in the very > end. > All the bleeding in the world wouldn't get it out. My solution was to > take > the front wheels off and set the front end almost on the ground. I then > jacked the rear of the car several feet up. I think I either backed the > rear wheels onto the trailer or I used my engine crane to pick the rear > up. > Anyway, I jacked it up in the rear until a torpedo level on the master > cylinder showed it was sloped slightly the other way. A few pumps with > the > bench bleeder screws open and a large bubble made its way through the > tube. > Then the brake pedal was very stiff. > > Andy > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of steven > boortz > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:11 AM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] brake bleeding woes > > Hi everyone > > I just don't get it. How can I have clear bubble-less fluid out of all 8 > bleeder screws, and still no pedal? Bad (new) master cylinder? > > I have volvo calipers in front. Last time out brakes were fine. Took them > apart to add cooling ducts. Re-assembled and tried to bleed system, but > m/c > leaked out the back. Replaced with NOS aftermarket m/c. > > Thanks for your help > S > 675MIZU From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Mar 4 23:43:04 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 22:43:04 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Okay, honey, we'll buy a hybrid.... Message-ID: <51FD1A278DF44D1DB4088D97137CC99F@xp> Pete From roadster at astound.net Thu Mar 4 23:58:21 2010 From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 22:58:21 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Trunk key question In-Reply-To: <000e01cababe$d1fa6100$75ef2300$@net> References: <000e01cababe$d1fa6100$75ef2300$@net> Message-ID: <2350DA2C-0212-4F3A-8FB9-6B7181A87508@astound.net> My 66 roadster has 2 keys (original). Same code for ignition, console, and trunk. One key works for all 3. The other is a valet key that only operates the ignition but won't unlock the console or trunk; this key is slightly shorter. Fred - So.SF, CA On Mar 3, 2010, at 2:46 AM, Steve Harvey wrote: > I have a spare trunk lock but no key for it. Can a locksmith make a > key by > using the lock? > > > > Thanks > > > > Steve From turbored at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 10:21:44 2010 From: turbored at gmail.com (XT Drew) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:21:44 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Trunk key question Message-ID: <4b913d9c.07a5660a.18ed.ffff9b83@mx.google.com> Do they still sell blanks? If they do, what does the original 67.5 key look like? -----Original Message----- From: Fred Katz Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 10:58 PM To: Steve Harvey Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Trunk key question My 66 roadster has 2 keys (original). Same code for ignition, console, and trunk. One key works for all 3. The other is a valet key that only operates the ignition but won't unlock the console or trunk; this key is slightly shorter. Fred - So.SF, CA On Mar 3, 2010, at 2:46 AM, Steve Harvey wrote: > I have a spare trunk lock but no key for it. Can a locksmith make a > key by > using the lock? > > > > Thanks > > > > Steve ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/turbored at gmail.com From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 5 13:09:40 2010 From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:09:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Trunk key question In-Reply-To: <2350DA2C-0212-4F3A-8FB9-6B7181A87508@astound.net> Message-ID: <951644.83041.qm@web63706.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Funny about keys. My early 66 that I have had for 33 years (2nd owner) has 3 keys. All Griffons. Red is ignition, one black opens doors, glove box and console, other one for the trunk only. Never seen that combination on any other roadster, but there it is. Mike Harper, CAI, AARE Harper Auction & Realty 843-729-4996 "Experience Sells" www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET --- On Fri, 3/5/10, Fred Katz wrote: > From: Fred Katz > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Trunk key question > To: "Steve Harvey" > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Friday, March 5, 2010, 1:58 AM > My 66 roadster has 2 keys (original). > Same code for ignition, console, and trunk. One key works > for all 3. The other is a valet key that only operates the > ignition but won't unlock the console or trunk; this key is > slightly shorter. > > Fred - So.SF, CA > > > On Mar 3, 2010, at 2:46 AM, Steve Harvey wrote: > > > I have a spare trunk lock but no key for it. Can a > locksmith make a key by > > using the lock? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Steve > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadsterdude1600 at yahoo .com From jdwininger at hotmail.com Fri Mar 5 13:11:08 2010 From: jdwininger at hotmail.com (J David Wininger) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:11:08 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] trunk key question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I bought a 67.5 with no trunk key had had a locksmith make one for me. No problem. David > From: datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net > Subject: Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 4, Issue 73 > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:00:03 -0700 > > Send Datsun-roadsters mailing list submissions to > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > datsun-roadsters-owner at autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Datsun-roadsters digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Trunk key question (XT Drew) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:21:44 -0800 > From: XT Drew > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Trunk key question > To: Fred Katz , Steve Harvey > > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Message-ID: <4b913d9c.07a5660a.18ed.ffff9b83 at mx.google.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Do they still sell blanks? If they do, what does the original 67.5 key look > like? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Katz > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 10:58 PM > To: Steve Harvey > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Trunk key question > > My 66 roadster has 2 keys (original). Same code for ignition, console, > and trunk. One key works for all 3. The other is a valet key that only > operates the ignition but won't unlock the console or trunk; this key > is slightly shorter. > > Fred - So.SF, CA > > > On Mar 3, 2010, at 2:46 AM, Steve Harvey wrote: > > > I have a spare trunk lock but no key for it. Can a locksmith make a > > key by > > using the lock? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Steve > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/turbored at gmail.com > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > End of Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 4, Issue 73 > *********************************************** From barterdude at comcast.net Fri Mar 5 14:45:26 2010 From: barterdude at comcast.net (Barter Dude) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:45:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Checking again on 1500 G motor #'s Message-ID: Hi All - If anyone on the list has acquired a 1500 Fairlady recently and hasn't sent me an email with the VIN # and the G motor number, it would be greatly appreciated. I have been accumulating the cross reference numbers for a couple years and would like to keep it up to date. Thanks in advance. Gary Lasater 303-840-7172 From pjmill at sonic.net Fri Mar 5 16:49:48 2010 From: pjmill at sonic.net (pjmill at sonic.net) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:49:48 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Brutes and Beauts: Vintage Autocross and Car Gathering! Message-ID: <832b2a32c1c01b088cfcf7abef05b59a.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net> Hi, Roadsterites! This should prove to be one heck of a lot of fun for San Francisco Bay Area folks! Feel free to contact Andy for more info at Apackard68 at att.net ******************************************* Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club, the oldest existing Triumph club in the world, is hosting Brutes and Beauts: Vintage Autocross and Car Gathering on Saturday, May 8, at the parking lot annex of Great America (off Centennial Blvd) in Santa Clara, CA. We are targeting owners of ALL an ANY 25+ year old cars to come out to show your car and show off its performance in a safe autocross environment. Participation is targeted to vintage car owners, but exceptions will be allowed (please contact the event chairman). Registration is $35, is limited to the first 200 cars, and will begin around 8:00. The event is non-competitive and ideal for novice auto-crossers as well as experienced drivers looking to gain additional seat time. Go to our website at *** www.triumphtravelers.org *** to find a fill-and-print pdf pre-registration form to be mailed in to assure your spot in the event. We look forward to seeing you there! From graemes at internode.on.net Fri Mar 5 17:01:27 2010 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 10:31:27 +1030 Subject: [Roadsters] Checking again on 1500 G motor #'s In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: May not have given you this data before: - 1965 SP310 Engine No. G-93326 Car No. SP310-10817. "If anyone on the list has acquired a 1500 Fairlady recently and hasn't sent me an email with the VIN # and the G motor number, it would be greatly appreciated. I have been accumulating the cross reference numbers for a couple years and would like to keep it up to date." From shas1983 at netzero.net Fri Mar 5 17:11:09 2010 From: shas1983 at netzero.net (shas1983 at netzero.net) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 00:11:09 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] Cant get roadster to idle Message-ID: <20100305.161109.2403.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com> I have a 69 2000 that was just rebuilt. Installed z therapys i got from a friend. Car cranks and runs well from 2000 to 3000 rpms. Beloe that car wants to stiumblke and die Tried to rich carbs up. Seens to leak gas from bottom of nozzles past 2.5 turns. any ideas? ____________________________________________________________ Weight Loss Program Best Weight Loss Program - Click Here! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/c?cp=BgzygvpBablindNaDq2IIgAAJ1Hb -7KuMPJffYsq3MtsBROGAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEUgAAAAA= From hmm_88 at comcast.net Fri Mar 5 19:40:29 2010 From: hmm_88 at comcast.net (hmm_88 at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 02:40:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Checking again on 1500 G motor #'s In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <929995678.12326961267843229799.JavaMail.root@sz0092a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> 1964 1500 Fairlady VIN:B B B 4-SPL310-02439 MOTOR: G82502 These are from the VIN plate. The present engine is an R1600, installed by a P.O. Thanks, Harry Bellevue, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barter Dude" To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, March 5, 2010 1:45:26 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] Checking again on 1500 G motor #'s Hi All - B If anyone on the list has acquired a 1500 Fairlady recently and hasn't sent me an email with the VIN # and the G motor number, it would be greatly appreciated. B I have been accumulating the cross reference numbers for a couple years and would like to keep it up to date. B Thanks in advance. B Gary Lasater 303-840-7172 ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation B $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/hmm_88 at comcast.net From aultgc at att.net Fri Mar 5 22:26:20 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:26:20 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Cant get roadster to idle References: <20100305.161109.2403.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <9F7DC0901E4A4E9B94104BC8A86EA610@gaxp1> Way too many possibilities, other than carburetion, to try to diagnose remotely. If there is truly fuel leaking from the nozzles, the condition of the carbs themselves is questionable. If all other things with the engine are correct, you should only need to "open" the mixture one turn from full closed. Have you checked for intake manifold leaks? When leaving our subdivision one morning many years ago, I came to a stop sign and the engine died. I cranked it up again, and it quit. I quickly figured out it would run if I kept it above 3000 rpm. When I checked under the hood, I noticed that one of the plugs I had installed in the intake manifold -- in the anti-backfire inlets -- had fallen out. I got the car back home and installed a spare. Perhaps others will have more to say. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 6:11 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Cant get roadster to idle >I have a 69 2000 that was just rebuilt. Installed z therapys i got from a > friend. Car cranks and runs well from 2000 to 3000 rpms. Beloe that car > wants > to stiumblke and die Tried to rich carbs up. Seens to leak gas from bottom > of > nozzles past 2.5 turns. any ideas? > > ____________________________________________________________ > Weight Loss Program > Best Weight Loss Program - Click Here! > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/c?cp=BgzygvpBablindNaDq2IIgAAJ1Hb > -7KuMPJffYsq3MtsBROGAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEUgAAAAA= > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From rob.dean at eftel.net.au Fri Mar 5 23:40:41 2010 From: rob.dean at eftel.net.au (Rob Dean) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 17:40:41 +1100 Subject: [Roadsters] Drum brake return springs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B91F8E9.2010209@eftel.net.au> Hi All Is there an easy way to get drum brake return springs back on? (front drum brakes on a '65 1500) - Is there a reason there is so much tension on these springs? - I'm wondering if the return springs have been changed at some time, the ones in the manual are shown "hooked" at both ends, mine are hooked at one end only, the other end had a kind of dogleg that goes through the backing plate. Any advice appreciated Cheers Rob From shas1983 at netzero.net Sat Mar 6 05:33:21 2010 From: shas1983 at netzero.net (shas1983 at netzero.net) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:33:21 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] Cant get roadster to idle Message-ID: <20100306.043321.9548.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com> It acts like a vacuum leak to me as well. Fuel pump, distributor, gaskets, everything else is new. Are there any hidden plugs in the manifold or head or any other sources of a vacuum leak that I may be missing? ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: , Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cant get roadster to idle Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:26:20 -0600 Way too many possibilities, other than carburetion, to try to diagnose remotely. If there is truly fuel leaking from the nozzles, the condition of the carbs themselves is questionable. If all other things with the engine are correct, you should only need to "open" the mixture one turn from full closed. Have you checked for intake manifold leaks? When leaving our subdivision one morning many years ago, I came to a stop sign and the engine died. I cranked it up again, and it quit. I quickly figured out it would run if I kept it above 3000 rpm. When I checked under the hood, I noticed that one of the plugs I had installed in the intake manifold -- in the anti-backfire inlets -- had fallen out. I got the car back home and installed a spare. Perhaps others will have more to say. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 6:11 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Cant get roadster to idle >I have a 69 2000 that was just rebuilt. Installed z therapys i got from a > friend. Car cranks and runs well from 2000 to 3000 rpms. Beloe that car > wants > to stiumblke and die Tried to rich carbs up. Seens to leak gas from bottom > of > nozzles past 2.5 turns. any ideas? > > ____________________________________________________________ > Weight Loss Program > Best Weight Loss Program - Click Here! > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/c?cp=BgzygvpBablindNaDq2IIgAAJ1Hb > -7KuMPJffYsq3MtsBROGAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEUgAAAAA= > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com Sat Mar 6 06:12:15 2010 From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 05:12:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Cant get roadster to idle In-Reply-To: <9F7DC0901E4A4E9B94104BC8A86EA610@gaxp1> Message-ID: <968987.65343.qm@web63702.mail.re1.yahoo.com> A newly rebuilt 2000 that dies after 3000 RPM: my first guess is that the timing chain might have been installed one tooth off. My old 2000 ran strong up to about 4000 but cranked hard and wanted to run on after shut down. That was my problem. Easy to check visually by pulling the timing cover and looking at the top sproket (check the book for how it is supposed to line up). Good luck finding the problem. Mike Harper, CAI, AARE Harper Auction & Realty 843-729-4996 "Experience Sells" www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET --- On Sat, 3/6/10, Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > From: Gary and Cindy Ault > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cant get roadster to idle > To: shas1983 at netzero.net, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Saturday, March 6, 2010, 12:26 AM > Way too many possibilities, other > than carburetion, to try to diagnose remotely. If > there is truly fuel leaking from the nozzles, the condition > of the carbs themselves is questionable. If all other > things with the engine are correct, you should only need to > "open" the mixture one turn from full closed. > > Have you checked for intake manifold leaks? When > leaving our subdivision one morning many years ago, I came > to a stop sign and the engine died. I cranked it up > again, and it quit. I quickly figured out it would run > if I kept it above 3000 rpm. When I checked under the > hood, I noticed that one of the plugs I had installed in the > intake manifold -- in the anti-backfire inlets -- had fallen > out. I got the car back home and installed a spare. > > Perhaps others will have more to say. > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 6:11 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Cant get roadster to idle > > > > I have a 69 2000 that was just rebuilt. Installed z > therapys i got from a > > friend. Car cranks and runs well from 2000 to 3000 > rpms. Beloe that car wants > > to stiumblke and die Tried to rich carbs up. Seens to > leak gas from bottom of > > nozzles past 2.5 turns. any ideas? > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > Weight Loss Program > > Best Weight Loss Program - Click Here! > > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/c?cp=BgzygvpBablindNaDq2IIgAAJ1Hb > > > -7KuMPJffYsq3MtsBROGAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEUgAAAAA= > > ________________________________________ > > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net > > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadsterdude1600 at yahoo .com From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com Sat Mar 6 06:58:23 2010 From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:58:23 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Cant get roadster to idle In-Reply-To: <20100306.043321.9548.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: A vacuum gauge is a great tool to diagnose for leaks, valve timing (timing chain postion)and general health of engine (valves and rings). You can rent one or get a free loaner at many auto parts shops and they are inexpensive to buy. Connect it up to the intake manifold. If excess fuel is leaking from the jet nozzles (assuming out of the carb mouth), it seems to me that something is wrong with the carbs (float levels or needle valves). Double check the ignition timing. Joe aultgc at att.net "It acts like a vacuum leak to me as well. Fuel pump, distributor, gaskets, everything else is new. Are there any hidden plugs in the manifold or head or any other sources of a vacuum leak that I may be missing?" Gary: Way too many possibilities, other than carburetion, to try to diagnose remotely. If there is truly fuel leaking from the nozzles, the condition of the carbs themselves is questionable. If all other things with the engine are correct, you should only need to "open" the mixture one turn from full closed. Have you checked for intake manifold leaks? When leaving our subdivision one morning many years ago, I came to a stop sign and the engine died. I cranked it up again, and it quit. I quickly figured out it would run if I kept it above 3000 rpm. When I checked under the hood, I noticed that one of the plugs I had installed in the intake manifold -- in the anti-backfire inlets -- had fallen out. I got the car back home and installed a spare. Perhaps others will have more to say. >I have a 69 2000 that was just rebuilt. Installed z therapys i got from >a friend. Car cranks and runs well from 2000 to 3000 rpms. Beloe that >car wants to stiumblke and die Tried to rich carbs up. Seens to leak >gas from bottom of > nozzles past 2.5 turns. any ideas? From fergus06 at socal.rr.com Sat Mar 6 09:10:56 2010 From: fergus06 at socal.rr.com (Fergus O'Farrell) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:10:56 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 69 suspension re-assemble, part / Zerk question Message-ID: <7C667DC7E9684A7D87A6328A80367218@CarmelPC> doing a front suspension rebuild, and a few questions: 1. there is a d-shaped "thingy" shown underneath the bump stop in the shop manual: http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Images/38.gif appears to be either #45 or #48. Mine didn't have it when coming apart, appears to be a shim of some sort. What is it, and why? (nad it it has no holes drilled in it, however would it be mounted / afixed?) 2. My upper Ball joints have had the Zerk removed and a screw put in, both of them. I can fill them now (cause the A-arm is removed), but shouldn't there be a Zerk here as well? OK, 3rd question, what is the correct Zerk thread, as I'll probably install one here. And finally, am I the only one that gets a mental picture of some goon from F-Troop when he says Zerk? (that is why I capitalize it....) thanks, Fergus O 69 2000 From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Sat Mar 6 09:37:00 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:37:00 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 69 suspension re-assemble, part / Zerk question In-Reply-To: <7C667DC7E9684A7D87A6328A80367218@CarmelPC> References: <7C667DC7E9684A7D87A6328A80367218@CarmelPC> Message-ID: Fergus D thingie - My 1970 didn't have this either I put zerks in the upper ball joint (90 degrees) as well - don't know the thread but it seemed to be standard since i got them from autozone There were a coupl of other places with screws iso zerks - tie rod ends for one - replaced them as well Does anyone know the EXACT # of zerks on the car?? Peter (eliza - toad san) > From: fergus06 at socal.rr.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:10:56 -0800 > Subject: [Roadsters] 69 suspension re-assemble, part / Zerk question > > doing a front suspension rebuild, and a few questions: > 1. there is a d-shaped "thingy" shown underneath the bump stop in the shop > manual: > http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Images/38.gif > appears to be either #45 or #48. > Mine didn't have it when coming apart, appears to be a shim of some sort. > What is it, and why? (nad it it has no holes drilled in it, however would it > be mounted / afixed?) > > 2. My upper Ball joints have had the Zerk removed and a screw put in, both of > them. I can fill them now (cause the A-arm is removed), but shouldn't there > be a Zerk here as well? > > OK, 3rd question, what is the correct Zerk thread, as I'll probably install > one here. > > And finally, am I the only one that gets a mental picture of some goon from > F-Troop when he says Zerk? (that is why I capitalize it....) > > thanks, > Fergus O > 69 2000 > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/granvillecomputing at hot mail.com From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sat Mar 6 10:20:00 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 12:20:00 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 69 suspension re-assemble, part / Zerk question In-Reply-To: References: <7C667DC7E9684A7D87A6328A80367218@CarmelPC> Message-ID: <8CC8B6862E28CAA-7DD8-CAFB@webmail-m072.sysops.aol.com> There are 20 per 311 http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.GreaseZerks Linda -----Original Message----- From: peter harrison To: datsun Sent: Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:37 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 69 suspension re-assemble, part / Zerk question Fergus D thingie - My 1970 didn't have this either I put zerks in the upper ball joint (90 degrees) as well - don't know the thread but it seemed to be standard since i got them from autozone There were a coupl of other places with screws iso zerks - tie rod ends for one - replaced them as well Does anyone know the EXACT # of zerks on the car?? Peter (eliza - toad san) > From: fergus06 at socal.rr.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:10:56 -0800 > Subject: [Roadsters] 69 suspension re-assemble, part / Zerk question > > doing a front suspension rebuild, and a few questions: > 1. there is a d-shaped "thingy" shown underneath the bump stop in the shop > manual: > http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Images/38.gif > appears to be either #45 or #48. > Mine didn't have it when coming apart, appears to be a shim of some sort. > What is it, and why? (nad it it has no holes drilled in it, however would it > be mounted / afixed?) > > 2. My upper Ball joints have had the Zerk removed and a screw put in, both of > them. I can fill them now (cause the A-arm is removed), but shouldn't there > be a Zerk here as well? > > OK, 3rd question, what is the correct Zerk thread, as I'll probably install > one here. > > And finally, am I the only one that gets a mental picture of some goon from > F-Troop when he says Zerk? (that is why I capitalize it....) > > thanks, > Fergus O > 69 2000 > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/granvillecomputing at hot mail.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From sevenmary3 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 6 10:47:02 2010 From: sevenmary3 at hotmail.com (Mike Schmike) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:47:02 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Checking again on 1500 G motor #'s In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That's me. I bought Dan Zubkoff's 64 3 seater a few weeks ago. 4SPL31002511 (is my recollection). All the info is the same, just change of owners. Engine number should be the same as he registered. I'm at work, so I don't have the numbers right here with me. -Mike Ismail > From: barterdude at comcast.net > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:45:26 -0700 > Subject: [Roadsters] Checking again on 1500 G motor #'s > > Hi All - > > > > If anyone on the list has acquired a 1500 Fairlady recently and hasn't sent > me an email with the VIN # and the G motor number, it would be greatly > appreciated. I have been accumulating the cross reference numbers for a > couple years and would like to keep it up to date. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Gary Lasater > > 303-840-7172 > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/sevenmary3 at hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Sat Mar 6 11:22:04 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 10:22:04 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 69 suspension re-assemble, part / Zerk question In-Reply-To: <8CC8B6862E28CAA-7DD8-CAFB@webmail-m072.sysops.aol.com> References: <7C667DC7E9684A7D87A6328A80367218@CarmelPC> , <8CC8B6862E28CAA-7DD8-CAFB@webmail-m072.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: one of these days I will learn to check 311s.org BEFORE i bother you lot - but thanks for the response. Peter (Eliza, TOAD SAN) - Almost finished. To: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 69 suspension re-assemble, part / Zerk question Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:20:00 -0500 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net There are 20 per 311 http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.GreaseZerks Linda -----Original Message----- From: peter harrison To: datsun Sent: Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:37 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 69 suspension re-assemble, part / Zerk question Fergus D thingie - My 1970 didn't have this either I put zerks in the upper ball joint (90 degrees) as well - don't know the thread but it seemed to be standard since i got them from autozone There were a coupl of other places with screws iso zerks - tie rod ends for one - replaced them as well Does anyone know the EXACT # of zerks on the car?? Peter (eliza - toad san) > From: fergus06 at socal.rr.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:10:56 -0800 > Subject: [Roadsters] 69 suspension re-assemble, part / Zerk question > > doing a front suspension rebuild, and a few questions: > 1. there is a d-shaped "thingy" shown underneath the bump stop in the shop > manual: > http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Images/38.gif > appears to be either #45 or #48. > Mine didn't have it when coming apart, appears to be a shim of some sort. > What is it, and why? (nad it it has no holes drilled in it, however would it > be mounted / afixed?) > > 2. My upper Ball joints have had the Zerk removed and a screw put in, both of > them. I can fill them now (cause the A-arm is removed), but shouldn't there > be a Zerk here as well? > > OK, 3rd question, what is the correct Zerk thread, as I'll probably install > one here. > > And finally, am I the only one that gets a mental picture of some goon from > F-Troop when he says Zerk? (that is why I capitalize it....) > > thanks, > Fergus O > 69 2000 > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/granvillecomputing at hot mail.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From jover4x4 at aol.com Sat Mar 6 13:51:21 2010 From: jover4x4 at aol.com (jover4x4 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:51:21 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 69 suspension re-assemble, part / Zerk question In-Reply-To: <7C667DC7E9684A7D87A6328A80367218@CarmelPC> References: <7C667DC7E9684A7D87A6328A80367218@CarmelPC> Message-ID: <8CC8B85E961935F-1064-78D6@webmail-m004.sysops.aol.com> Fergus, I recently parted an early 67 car and it had the "D" thingys that you are speak of under the front bump stops. I have never seen these on late cars and believe they were used on early 67 and earlier cars. I believe the intent is to help hold the two sides of the A arms together structurally so the load isn't carried by the ball joint alone. John Over -----Original Message----- From: Fergus O'Farrell To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:10 am Subject: [Roadsters] 69 suspension re-assemble, part / Zerk question doing a front suspension rebuild, and a few questions: . there is a d-shaped "thingy" shown underneath the bump stop in the shop anual: ttp://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Images/38.gif ppears to be either #45 or #48. ine didn't have it when coming apart, appears to be a shim of some sort. hat is it, and why? (nad it it has no holes drilled in it, however would it e mounted / afixed?) 2. My upper Ball joints have had the Zerk removed and a screw put in, both of hem. I can fill them now (cause the A-arm is removed), but shouldn't there e a Zerk here as well? OK, 3rd question, what is the correct Zerk thread, as I'll probably install ne here. And finally, am I the only one that gets a mental picture of some goon from -Troop when he says Zerk? (that is why I capitalize it....) thanks, ergus O 9 2000 _______________________________________ atsun-roadsters at autox.team.net onate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation $16.00 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/jover4x4 at aol.com From twobeaners at earthlink.net Sat Mar 6 14:35:35 2010 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 15:35:35 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Drum brake return springs References: <4B91F8E9.2010209@eftel.net.au> Message-ID: <9E0FE95AC31249BB928C37722C2AEEAE@lap120> Well here's the way I do it on my '67: Before mounting the shoes on the backing plate, I fit the springs on the shoes first, then hold the shoes with the linings facing towards me, like holding a book half-open. Then, I engage the ends of the shoes onto the wheel cylinder and adjuster, and "unfold" the shoes open and flat against the backing plate. This gives more leverage than trying to manually stretch the springs. There is a special little brake tool that's kind of like a small pry bar that's bent just right to work with brake springs. I have one, but I never use it, preferring to just fold them over like I described. Mine's a '67 so maybe this won't work on the 1500. Mike Hudson '67 -Stroker / 5-Speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Dean" To: Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 12:40 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Drum brake return springs > Hi All > > Is there an easy way to get drum brake return springs back on? (front > drum brakes on a '65 1500) - Is there a reason there is so much tension > on these springs? - I'm wondering if the return springs have been > changed at some time, the ones in the manual are shown "hooked" at both > ends, mine are hooked at one end only, the other end had a kind of > dogleg that goes through the backing plate. > > Any advice appreciated > > Cheers > Rob From twobeaners at earthlink.net Sat Mar 6 15:12:30 2010 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 16:12:30 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] 69 suspension re-assemble, part / Zerk question References: <7C667DC7E9684A7D87A6328A80367218@CarmelPC> Message-ID: <34DE8DD4983F4832AFFA13FC3D6972CD@lap120> It was patented by Oscar U. Zerk in 1929. I thought everyone knew that. For those who didn't here's the story: http://tinyurl.com/yzmzqb3 Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fergus O'Farrell" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 10:10 AM Subject: [Roadsters] 69 suspension re-assemble, part / Zerk question And finally, am I the only one that gets a mental picture of some goon from F-Troop when he says Zerk? (that is why I capitalize it....) thanks, Fergus O 69 2000 From barterdude at comcast.net Sat Mar 6 15:58:03 2010 From: barterdude at comcast.net (Barter Dude) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 15:58:03 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] update on 1500 VIN's and Motor numbers Message-ID: <832538A45C214651B237AC3C5B8E4170@NOTEBOOK> We have Identified 96 cars. Nineteen don't have the G motor number, 7 have indicated running 1600 R motors. I had a 64 that was converted to a R motor, but it went to the crusher in 1973 unfortunately. Don't even have the VIN off that one. It appears that by the motor number the first production roadster was around VIN -00075. All Roadster from 001 to early 70's had production G motors ranging from 89000 - 92000, and all were stamped '64. Best of the research I can find showed the first 300 roadsters came out with a single carb, but if they were not sold in 1963, they were retrofitted with a dual intake manifold and stamped '64 and also shown as 85 HP vs. 77 HP (dual vs. single carb). If anyone knows of a VIN ending 00069 - 00075 if you can get me the motor ID, it would greatly help the debate as to what was the first Fairlady off the full assembled production line. It appears all pre 00070 where made without a motor and put on the shelf for a year. Gary Lasater 2 - 1963 Fairlady's SPL310-00161 SPL310-00289 1964 Fairlady 1968 SRL311 From wschaibe at ucsd.edu Sat Mar 6 16:48:19 2010 From: wschaibe at ucsd.edu (Bill Schairer) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 15:48:19 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] MO roadster? Message-ID: My son saw a yellow roadster today (he has gone from he saw one to he thinks he saw one) out by the Katy Trail near St Louis/St Charles. Anyone on the list? Bill From aultgc at att.net Sat Mar 6 18:21:57 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 19:21:57 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] 69 suspension re-assemble, part / Zerk question References: <7C667DC7E9684A7D87A6328A80367218@CarmelPC> Message-ID: Fergus, Zirc fittings: Upper/lower ball joints: 4 Upper/lower link spindles: 8 Inner/outer tie rod ends: 4 Cross rod ends: 2 Steering idler: 1 Hand brake turn-buckle: 1 Speedo cable 90-degree (1600 only): 1 U-joints (if fitted): 2 Total of 20-23, depending model and whether U-joints have grese fittings. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fergus O'Farrell" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 10:10 AM Subject: [Roadsters] 69 suspension re-assemble, part / Zerk question > doing a front suspension rebuild, and a few questions: > 1. there is a d-shaped "thingy" shown underneath the bump stop in the shop > manual: > http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Images/38.gif > appears to be either #45 or #48. > Mine didn't have it when coming apart, appears to be a shim of some sort. > What is it, and why? (nad it it has no holes drilled in it, however would > it > be mounted / afixed?) > > 2. My upper Ball joints have had the Zerk removed and a screw put in, both > of > them. I can fill them now (cause the A-arm is removed), but shouldn't > there > be a Zerk here as well? > > OK, 3rd question, what is the correct Zerk thread, as I'll probably > install > one here. > > And finally, am I the only one that gets a mental picture of some goon > from > F-Troop when he says Zerk? (that is why I capitalize it....) > > thanks, > Fergus O > 69 2000 > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From stebharvey at ameritech.net Sun Mar 7 03:14:44 2010 From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 04:14:44 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Rear brake shoe part number mistake Message-ID: <000001cabddf$02989070$07c9b150$@net> List, I was at a local O'Reilly auto parts store last week and checked to see if they handled rear brake shoes for my new 68. They did offer them so I purchased a set. When they arrived I discovered that they were about 7" in diameter (ours are 9"). I returned them and the manager ordered every set he could to see which ones may fit. We did find a match which listed as fitting a 1968 to 1977 Datsun. Their computer shows that part number 371 fits SPL311. That's wrong. The correct part number is 359. Hoping this will keep anyone from making three extra trips to the auto parts store. Steve Milwaukee P.S. They were $17.00 a set. From sumton at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 7 07:29:33 2010 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:29:33 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Rear brake shoe part number mistake In-Reply-To: <000001cabddf$02989070$07c9b150$@net> References: <000001cabddf$02989070$07c9b150$@net> Message-ID: can we get this on 311s.org please? -------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Harvey" Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 4:14 AM To: Subject: [Roadsters] Rear brake shoe part number mistake > List, > > > > I was at a local O'Reilly auto parts store last week and checked to see if > they handled rear brake shoes for my new 68. They did offer them so I > purchased a set. When they arrived I discovered that they were about 7" in > diameter (ours are 9"). I returned them and the manager ordered every set > he > could to see which ones may fit. We did find a match which listed as > fitting > a 1968 to 1977 Datsun. Their computer shows that part number 371 fits > SPL311. That's wrong. The correct part number is 359. Hoping this will > keep > anyone from making three extra trips to the auto parts store. From twobeaners at earthlink.net Sun Mar 7 07:51:56 2010 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:51:56 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Rear brake shoe part number mistake References: <000001cabddf$02989070$07c9b150$@net> Message-ID: <188067934E8B4925B41015EF66980898@lap120> Yes, here are the specs from the O'reilly website: Brake Best - Brake Shoe Part Number: 371 a.. Rear b.. Bonded c.. 8 X 1.38 Inch d.. Limited Lifetime Warranty The brake shoes part numbers thing is a common issue. Here is more info and the comment I posted on the 311s forum. Here is the 311s forum link: http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11332&p=80554&hilit=shoes#p80554 and here is my comment to Linda's question: According to the specs in the Haynes Manual for 1968 thru 1973 510, the rear drum for the 510 is also 228.6mm (9.0"), same as the Roadster drum. The shoes for the 510 will fit the roadster drum, but some people have had problems with them. By mistake, some parts counter catalogs will list a smaller 8" or larger 10" arced shoe as being correct for the 510. These won't work. So make sure they list the correct 510 part numbers for the 9" shoes. Linda wrote: "Does anyone know anything about the 510 drum being slightly smaller than the Roadster drum? Also then, that if you use 510 shoes on a roadster drum the arc is slightly different? Linda" Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Harvey" To: Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 4:14 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Rear brake shoe part number mistake > List, > > > > I was at a local O'Reilly auto parts store last week and checked to see if > they handled rear brake shoes for my new 68. They did offer them so I > purchased a set. When they arrived I discovered that they were about 7" in > diameter (ours are 9"). I returned them and the manager ordered every set > he > could to see which ones may fit. We did find a match which listed as > fitting > a 1968 to 1977 Datsun. Their computer shows that part number 371 fits > SPL311. That's wrong. The correct part number is 359. Hoping this will > keep > anyone from making three extra trips to the auto parts store. > > > > Steve > > Milwaukee > > P.S. They were $17.00 a set. From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 7 08:26:04 2010 From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 07:26:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Rear brake shoe part number mistake In-Reply-To: <188067934E8B4925B41015EF66980898@lap120> Message-ID: <439679.89059.qm@web81701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Recently, I purchased some parts via the CSK (O'Relly's) Website for a Datsun. Their catalog has numerous mistakes, even pricing mistakes. Tried buying two calipers. For the right side, the caliper had a $3.50 core price. For the left it was $35.00 . The customer support team researched the actual core price and found it was $5 for the left and $5 for the right. They updated the catalog and I was able to order the parts the next day. Dan Zubkoff Houston, TX --- On Sun, 3/7/10, MH wrote: From: MH Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rear brake shoe part number mistake To: "Steve Harvey" , datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 8:51 AM Yes, here are the specs from the O'reilly website: Brake Best - Brake Shoe Part Number: 371 a.. Rear b.. Bonded c.. 8 X 1.38 Inch d.. Limited Lifetime Warranty The brake shoes part numbers thing is a common issue. Here is more info and the comment I posted on the 311s forum. Here is the 311s forum link: http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11332&p=80554&hilit=shoes#p805 54 and here is my comment to Linda's question: According to the specs in the Haynes Manual for 1968 thru 1973 510, the rear drum for the 510 is also 228.6mm (9.0"), same as the Roadster drum. The shoes for the 510 will fit the roadster drum, but some people have had problems with them. By mistake, some parts counter catalogs will list a smaller 8" or larger 10" arced shoe as being correct for the 510. These won't work. So make sure they list the correct 510 part numbers for the 9" shoes. Linda wrote: "Does anyone know anything about the 510 drum being slightly smaller than the Roadster drum? Also then, that if you use 510 shoes on a roadster drum the arc is slightly different? Linda" Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Harvey" To: Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 4:14 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Rear brake shoe part number mistake > List, > > > > I was at a local O'Reilly auto parts store last week and checked to see if > they handled rear brake shoes for my new 68. They did offer them so I > purchased a set. When they arrived I discovered that they were about 7" in > diameter (ours are 9"). I returned them and the manager ordered every set he > could to see which ones may fit. We did find a match which listed as fitting > a 1968 to 1977 Datsun. Their computer shows that part number 371 fits > SPL311. That's wrong. The correct part number is 359. Hoping this will keep > anyone from making three extra trips to the auto parts store. > > > > Steve > > Milwaukee > > P.S. They were $17.00 a set. ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/zubkoff at sbcglobal.net From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 7 09:22:01 2010 From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:22:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 engine Message-ID: <334163.43814.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Saw this on craigslist this morning. Where's valley village? Just passing on. From sandhoff at csus.edu Sun Mar 7 09:41:20 2010 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:41:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Aftermarket Rear brake shoe In-Reply-To: <000001cabddf$02989070$07c9b150$@net> References: <000001cabddf$02989070$07c9b150$@net> Message-ID: > ...a local O'Reilly auto parts store... (shows) correct part > number is 359. Have you had a chance to match them up to an OEM shoe? I got an aftermarket set thru Kargen a few years back and while the metal backing was correct, the amount and positioning of the shoe material was quite different. The brakes seem fine to me for the daily driving I do, but I suspect the stopping characteristics under high performance driving will be different. Good different or bad different I don't know :-) -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From eddietude at socal.rr.com Sun Mar 7 09:45:38 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:45:38 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 engine In-Reply-To: <334163.43814.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <334163.43814.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B93D832.7070206@socal.rr.com> Los Angeles area. Right Near North Hollywood. Tom PRATHER wrote: > Saw this on craigslist this morning. Where's valley village? Just passing on. > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sun Mar 7 09:47:35 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:47:35 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 engine In-Reply-To: <334163.43814.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <334163.43814.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CC8C2D05C35DBA-4258-7AE6@webmail-m004.sysops.aol.com> San Fernando Valley, basically Van Nuys, CA. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Tom PRATHER To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.ne roadster list Sent: Sun, Mar 7, 2010 8:22 am Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 engine Saw this on craigslist this morning. Where's valley village? Just passing on. ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sun Mar 7 09:50:29 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:50:29 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Rear brake shoe part number mistake In-Reply-To: References: <000001cabddf$02989070$07c9b150$@net> Message-ID: <8CC8C2D6D6E4B27-4258-7B76@webmail-m004.sysops.aol.com> It's already there. See Parts Interchange section. You know if you check that section you would be amazed at how much hassle it can save you. Linda -----Original Message----- From: oliver To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, Mar 7, 2010 6:29 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rear brake shoe part number mistake can we get this on 311s.org please? -------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Harvey" Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 4:14 AM To: Subject: [Roadsters] Rear brake shoe part number mistake > List, > > > > I was at a local O'Reilly auto parts store last week and checked to see if > they handled rear brake shoes for my new 68. They did offer them so I > purchased a set. When they arrived I discovered that they were about 7" in > diameter (ours are 9"). I returned them and the manager ordered every set > he > could to see which ones may fit. We did find a match which listed as > fitting > a 1968 to 1977 Datsun. Their computer shows that part number 371 fits > SPL311. That's wrong. The correct part number is 359. Hoping this will > keep > anyone from making three extra trips to the auto parts store. ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.net From chalsted at comcast.net Sun Mar 7 09:55:23 2010 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:55:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] rebuilt R16 for sale Message-ID: <1598261411.8836031267980923679.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I have a friend with a rebuilt R16 for sale, ready to plug in and play. he's looking to get $1200 for it, contact me offlist if interested. Craig engine located in the northeast From bmwjer at earthlink.net Sun Mar 7 10:51:30 2010 From: bmwjer at earthlink.net (JERRY KINGMAN) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 09:51:30 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 engine Message-ID: <27389279.1267984290991.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> This motor has been listed for little while and it was on Ebay just recently. I went to the guy's house to pick up some little stuff. Supposedly 66' car had low mileage ~@65K, but I asked about compression test and seller stated it was "o.k./good". He also has a tranny and other bits. J. Kingman -----Original Message----- >From: Tom PRATHER >Sent: Mar 7, 2010 8:22 AM >To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.ne roadster list" >Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 engine > >Saw this on craigslist this morning. Where's valley village? Just passing on. >________________________________________ >Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $16.00 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/bmwjer at earthlink.net From jblair at surewest.net Sun Mar 7 17:55:21 2010 From: jblair at surewest.net (The Blairs) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:55:21 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 1500 Vin # Message-ID: <000001cabe5a$07c0f260$1742d720$@net> Mine is 4 SPL310-02775D Engine number G84021 Joe Blair From dave at eastcoastroadster.com Sun Mar 7 19:46:38 2010 From: dave at eastcoastroadster.com (dave) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 21:46:38 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Rear brake shoe part number mistake In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <251E90FD1C864132B055182C2D115FFA@delled48909442> I ran into the same mistake, have a set of 371 shoes in the basment. Have to find out what they really fit and Ebay them. Apperently, it's a glitch in the software, and everyone uses the same flawed software, Rock Auto, major chains and local stores. The paper catalogs have the correct listings in most cases, or just make note of the correct part number, 359 that Steve mentioned. The leters before the part #, like AB-359 for example, are the manufacturers different gradings, but in 99% of cases, the numerical part # denoting the application is a constant between all major brands. Dave Brisco East Coast Roadster From brad.hendrickson at rocketmail.com Sun Mar 7 20:54:33 2010 From: brad.hendrickson at rocketmail.com (Brad Hendrickson) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 19:54:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 flywheel Message-ID: <784833.94595.qm@web113009.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I'm curious about the flywheel on my 1970 1600. About 5 years ago I replaced the clutch and had the flywheel turned. It had a concentric step about 3/16 inch high with a diameter matching the clutch face. I had the machine shop match this profile and just clean it up. The clutch housing mounts on the perimeter outside this surface so effectively the clutch face is 3/16 inch closer to the flywheel. Has anyone seen this on a roadster? I've always had difficulty in adjusting the clutch and finally put on all new hydraulics and pedal pin thinking I'd be able to get more travel out of the system. Nothing seemed to changed. Looking through the litature available all flywheel diagrams appear to show a flush surface across the whole face. Any opinions if this could impact clutch adjustment? Brad Hendrickson Erie, PA 1970 1600 brad.hendrickson at rocketmail.com From aultgc at att.net Sun Mar 7 21:34:50 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 22:34:50 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 flywheel References: <784833.94595.qm@web113009.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <13F2B97AB93845BFA2F42746AC0AC755@gaxp1> Brad, It might make the flywheel too thin, but, unless you run out of travel on the slave cylindes operating rod, I don't think it should affect clutch adjustment. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Hendrickson" To: Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 9:54 PM Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 flywheel > I'm curious about the flywheel on my 1970 1600. About 5 years ago I > replaced > the clutch and had the flywheel turned. It had a concentric step about > 3/16 > inch high with a diameter matching the clutch face. I had the machine > shop > match this profile and just clean it up. The clutch housing mounts on > the perimeter outside this surface so effectively the clutch face is 3/16 > inch > closer to the flywheel. Has anyone seen this on a roadster? I've always > had > difficulty in adjusting the clutch and finally put on all new hydraulics > and > pedal pin thinking I'd be able to get more travel out of the system. > Nothing > seemed to changed. Looking through the litature available all flywheel > diagrams appear to show a flush surface across the whole face. Any > opinions > if this could impact clutch adjustment? > > Brad Hendrickson > Erie, PA > 1970 1600 > brad.hendrickson at rocketmail.com > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From roadster at astound.net Sun Mar 7 22:47:01 2010 From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 21:47:01 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Trunk key question In-Reply-To: <4b913d9c.07a5660a.18ed.ffff9b83@mx.google.com> References: <4b913d9c.07a5660a.18ed.ffff9b83@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <3746AEA5-F51C-434C-92C4-A9EDE8B6DD99@astound.net> Steve - Sorry about the late delay, my internet access was down a couple days. All I know about is my keys for a 1966, but I think they are the same for a 1967.5 - ask an owner. I don't know about the blanks. Ask around, someone might be able to help you find one. Like I said, the valet key is slightly shorter - looks like a regular key that operates all locks can have the tip ground shorter to only operate the doors and ignition like my valet key. I've got copies of my 66 keys, "Curtis DA-18". Or you can look for shorter blanks. I have found similar keys on eBay. The long key to access all locks looks like Key Blank Taylor D74E D. L. DT6 Datsun Nissan 1966-1970 (Enter this in an eBay search). The shorter valet key for door and ignition only looks like Key Blank Dominion Lock DT1 Datsun Nissan 1966-70 D74F (Enter this in an eBay search). My keys look like the Dominion keys, except for having a Griffin and NISSAN logo in the center of the square key head on both sides. Im not certain these blanks will work, but the pictures appear to match my keys. Fred - So.SF, CA On Mar 5, 2010, at 9:21 AM, XT Drew wrote: > Do they still sell blanks? If they do, what does the original 67.5 > key look like? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Katz > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 10:58 PM > To: Steve Harvey > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Trunk key question > > My 66 roadster has 2 keys (original). Same code for ignition, console, > and trunk. One key works for all 3. The other is a valet key that only > operates the ignition but won't unlock the console or trunk; this key > is slightly shorter. > > Fred - So.SF, CA > > > On Mar 3, 2010, at 2:46 AM, Steve Harvey wrote: > >> I have a spare trunk lock but no key for it. Can a locksmith make a >> key by >> using the lock? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> Steve From dickschnei at aol.com Mon Mar 8 09:21:15 2010 From: dickschnei at aol.com (dickschnei at aol.com) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:21:15 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 5-speed tranny pops out of 2nd gear? Message-ID: <8CC8CF282B57B56-692C-7FBA@webmail-d049.sysops.aol.com> The transmission in my 1969 2000 is starting to pop out of 2nd gear. It only happens infrequently but once it occurs I can not use 2nd at all. There is no grinding or any other noise. It simply goes right back into neutral. If I shut off the engine for a few minutes then restart, the transmission seems to work normally once again. This car has the Mikuni carbs and runs great, but I am fearful that if I drive it under these conditions I might destroy the transmission. Any advice from anybody would be much appreciated. I am not a mechanic at all, so any solution would need to be done at a shop. Are there rebuild 5-speeds available? Can these trannys be rebuilt at a local shop? Are there even parts available? Any ideas, even ones that are of significant cost, will be helpful. My wife and I love this car and enjoy the warm days taking road trips. As we approach our retirement years, we planned on taking this car on longer trips, but in this condition it seems to be very risky. Thanks, Dick Schneiders From ljordan704 at netscape.net Mon Mar 8 09:57:10 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:57:10 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] NAPA - U20 Timing Chains In-Reply-To: <1A60CA7D0B584460B83D7DD5DDC1363D@lap120> References: <1A60CA7D0B584460B83D7DD5DDC1363D@lap120> Message-ID: <8CC8CF7872507FD-3714-2901@webmail-m082.sysops.aol.com> Is this the same chain for the U20? If so it mentions some other cars it fits: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Roadster-SRL311-Hillman-Minx-MGC-Timing -Chain_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem51910b26e7QQitemZ350325778151QQptZMotorsQ5f CarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories Linda -----Original Message----- From: MH To: Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2010 7:18 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] NAPA - U20 Timing Chains There seems to be a problem with the links, I checked and tested them here and on the Forum, but now they don't seem to be working. Just use the search for the "Online Shopping" and do not select for a specific vehicle. Here are the NAPA Part numbers: This is for the upper chain of the U20: NTP 94027 Here is what I come up with for the R16 and the lower U20: NTP 94054 Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed ----- Original Message ----- From: MH To: Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 7:07 PM Subject: U20 Timing Chains Googling and cross referencing PCI, Cloyes (they make timing components), Rockauto, and some other parts websites finally gave me this number at NAPA: http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail ... 0191972232 It's a 94 link double-roller, with a pitch of 3/8" (For a roller chain, the distance in inches between the centers of adjacent joint members or links). Here is what I come up with for the R16 and the lower U20: http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail ... 0213525631 We need some 2000 / U20 owners to check into this if they're interested. I just spent 4 hours trying to find a part I'll never own, need, or use, but thought it might be worth it if it's the real deal. Someone who has OEM or used chains in their hand could match up the NAPA chains and see if they're the right ones. Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t = From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Mar 8 10:37:24 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 17:37:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] 5-speed tranny pops out of 2nd gear? In-Reply-To: <463927927.12612701268069660553.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1334209717.12614281268069844097.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Similar issue discussed a couple weeks ago: Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: dickschnei at aol.com To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, March 8, 2010 8:21:15 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] 5-speed tranny pops out of 2nd gear? The transmission in my 1969 2000 is starting to pop out of 2nd gear. It only happens infrequently but once it occurs I can not use 2nd at all. There is no grinding or any other noise. It simply goes right back into neutral. If I shut off the engine for a few minutes then restart, the transmission seems to work normally once again. This car has the Mikuni carbs and runs great, but I am fearful that if I drive it under these conditions I might destroy the transmission. Any advice from anybody would be much appreciated. I am not a mechanic at all, so any solution would need to be done at a shop. Are there rebuild 5-speeds available? Can these trannys be rebuilt at a local shop? Are there even parts available? Any ideas, even ones that are of significant cost, will be helpful. My wife and I love this car and enjoy the warm days taking road trips. As we approach our retirement years, we planned on taking this car on longer trips, but in this condition it seems to be very risky. Thanks, Dick Schneiders ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net From aultgc at att.net Mon Mar 8 12:02:27 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 11:02:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] NAPA - U20 Timing Chains In-Reply-To: <8CC8CF7872507FD-3714-2901@webmail-m082.sysops.aol.com> References: <1A60CA7D0B584460B83D7DD5DDC1363D@lap120> <8CC8CF7872507FD-3714-2901@webmail-m082.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <807799.20732.qm@web180211.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I am almost certain the MGC was not an OHC engine, so the SRL chain would have no purpose. Same for the Hillman and Minx. Could be the lower chain, but not the upper. Gary ________________________________ From: "ljordan704 at netscape.net" To: twobeaners at earthlink.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 10:57:10 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] NAPA - U20 Timing Chains Is this the same chain for the U20? If so it mentions some other cars it fits: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Roadster-SRL311-Hillman-Minx-MGC-Timing -Chain_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem51910b26e7QQitemZ350325778151QQptZMotorsQ5f CarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories Linda -----Original Message----- From: MH To: Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2010 7:18 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] NAPA - U20 Timing Chains There seems to be a problem with the links, I checked and tested them here and on the Forum, but now they don't seem to be working. Just use the search for the "Online Shopping" and do not select for a specific vehicle. Here are the NAPA Part numbers: This is for the upper chain of the U20: NTP 94027 Here is what I come up with for the R16 and the lower U20: NTP 94054 Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed ----- Original Message ----- From: MH To: Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 7:07 PM Subject: U20 Timing Chains Googling and cross referencing PCI, Cloyes (they make timing components), Rockauto, and some other parts websites finally gave me this number at NAPA: http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail ... 0191972232 It's a 94 link double-roller, with a pitch of 3/8" (For a roller chain, the distance in inches between the centers of adjacent joint members or links). Here is what I come up with for the R16 and the lower U20: http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail ... 0213525631 We need some 2000 / U20 owners to check into this if they're interested. I just spent 4 hours trying to find a part I'll never own, need, or use, but thought it might be worth it if it's the real deal. Someone who has OEM or used chains in their hand could match up the NAPA chains and see if they're the right ones. Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t = ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From sportsix63 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 8 17:36:08 2010 From: sportsix63 at yahoo.com (jim williams) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 16:36:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Oil Filter Question Message-ID: <335611.39054.qm@web30608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> On a 1970 1600 roadster is it necessary for the tube to remain inside a modern day filter? I guess this is a drain back tube? Left it or remove it? Is there a certain filter that would be better than another?? Jim Williams Lewisburg, West Virginia From rksmith46 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 8 17:37:53 2010 From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:37:53 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 5-speed tranny pops out of 2nd gear? In-Reply-To: <8CC8CF282B57B56-692C-7FBA@webmail-d049.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC8CF282B57B56-692C-7FBA@webmail-d049.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: hi dick, in my experience with that 5 spd. i would make a strong guess that the problem is the shift pin on the 1-2 shift rod. that was the weak point on the u20 5 spd. you have to r&r the eng., trans., and take the case apart to get to the shift rods and pins. btw, DO NOT just replace the one bad shift pin. do them all. you can get double(THICK) roll pins, or you can just put in new stock roll pins, and buy a bunch of 3/32 " drill bits, to drive in side of the stock pins and break off flush. also, to get an idea if the pins are at fault, when you lose 2nd gear, push the shifter back hard against 1st gear, then gently try for 2nd. if it works, then its a broken shift pin. this is not a definitive test. while apart, this is a good time to ck. 5th gear(for being splined), and mabe put in frt. and rear seals. lastly, if you lose 2nd gear, it doesnt hurt to drive the car, skip shifting 2nd. gear.(mabe some extra clutch plate wear). good luck, bob smith, ohio. > To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 11:21:15 -0500 > From: dickschnei at aol.com > Subject: [Roadsters] 5-speed tranny pops out of 2nd gear? > > The transmission in my 1969 2000 is starting to pop out of 2nd gear. It only > happens infrequently but once it occurs I can not use 2nd at all. There is no > grinding or any other noise. It simply goes right back into neutral. If I > shut off the engine for a few minutes then restart, the transmission seems to > work normally once again. > > This car has the Mikuni carbs and runs great, but I am fearful that if I drive > it under these conditions I might destroy the transmission. Any advice from > anybody would be much appreciated. I am not a mechanic at all, so any > solution would need to be done at a shop. Are there rebuild 5-speeds > available? Can these trannys be rebuilt at a local shop? Are there even > parts available? Any ideas, even ones that are of significant cost, will be > helpful. > > My wife and I love this car and enjoy the warm days taking road trips. As we > approach our retirement years, we planned on taking this car on longer trips, > but in this condition it seems to be very risky. > > Thanks, > > Dick Schneiders > ______________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ From stebharvey at ameritech.net Mon Mar 8 17:59:01 2010 From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:59:01 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank woes Message-ID: <000001cabf23$b5934a90$20b9dfb0$@net> My new /old 1968 L18 powered addition has had the PO backyard Murphy mechanical upgrade option applied to the gas tank. The PO either didn't have a roadster tank or wanted to go retro and decided to cut a 22.5" x 17" hole in the trunk and drop in a racing fuel cell, half in the trunk and half hanging out the bottom. It's supported in the trunk by two 2 x 4's (painted black so I got that going for me) front and back which are not attached to the car, just hanging there at the grace of gravity. I guess if I kept the tank full all the time the weight would help keep the tank from coming into the trunk compartment on a twisty road run. I'm planning on replacing the trunk metal and converting the car back to an original roadster tank. I have three spare tanks which I inspected and found two that need to be cleaned, etched and sealed. The third is in great spare but appears to be an older tank. There is one threaded fitting at the front and a 90 degree vent tube on the top, next to the fuel gauge opening. The other two tanks have two fittings at the front so I'm guessing that they are later model tanks? Will this "one line tank" work with a 68 with a L18 engine or do I need a return line fitting? Thanks Steve Milwaukee P.S. 56 degrees today, for 10 minutes. From ljordan704 at netscape.net Mon Mar 8 18:27:56 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:27:56 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Oil Filter Question In-Reply-To: <335611.39054.qm@web30608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <335611.39054.qm@web30608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CC8D3EE0C5D95B-8504-43BA@webmail-m052.sysops.aol.com> WIx filters or Napa Gold are good. Don't use Fram!! Lots of failures. Check out the Wix website for a run down on what makes a good filter. Linda -----Original Message----- From: jim williams To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, Mar 8, 2010 4:36 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Oil Filter Question On a 1970 1600 roadster is it necessary for the tube to remain inside a modern day filter? I guess this is a drain back tube? Left it or remove it? Is there a certain filter that would be better than another?? Jim Williams Lewisburg, West Virginia ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From wrenchorhammer at live.com Mon Mar 8 19:11:58 2010 From: wrenchorhammer at live.com (Jim In Virginia) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:11:58 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Oil Filter Question In-Reply-To: <8CC8D3EE0C5D95B-8504-43BA@webmail-m052.sysops.aol.com> References: <335611.39054.qm@web30608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <8CC8D3EE0C5D95B-8504-43BA@webmail-m052.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Pureolater (pure oil later) are also still made in the USA and a good choice. I agree, the Fram cans are no good anymore. Jim > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 20:27:56 -0500 > From: ljordan704 at netscape.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Oil Filter Question > > WIx filters or Napa Gold are good. Don't use Fram!! Lots of failures. Check > out the Wix website for a run down on what makes a good filter. > > Linda > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jim williams > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, Mar 8, 2010 4:36 pm > Subject: [Roadsters] Oil Filter Question > > > On a 1970 1600 roadster is it necessary for the tube to remain inside a modern > day filter? I guess this is a drain back tube? > Left it or remove it? Is there a certain filter that would be better than > another?? > Jim Williams Lewisburg, West Virginia > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne > t > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/wrenchorhammer at live.co m _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/ From aultgc at att.net Mon Mar 8 20:05:28 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:05:28 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Oil Filter Question References: <335611.39054.qm@web30608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Jim, Use the tube regardless of filter. Its purpose is to keep oil in the galleries, so oil is supplied to the cam shaft bearings and chain tensioners more quickly on start-up. Make sure the tube is as long as it can be without "topping out" on the inside of whatever filter you are using. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim williams" To: Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 6:36 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Oil Filter Question > On a 1970 1600 roadster is it necessary for the tube to remain inside a > modern day filter? I guess this is a drain back tube? > Left it or remove it? Is there a certain filter that would be better than > another?? > Jim Williams Lewisburg, West Virginia > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From keithddowning at yahoo.com Mon Mar 8 21:42:48 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 20:42:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 engine In-Reply-To: <4B93D832.7070206@socal.rr.com> References: <334163.43814.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4B93D832.7070206@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <311066.75905.qm@web83305.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> It actually used to be part of Van Nuys. ________________________________ From: Eddie To: Tom PRATHER Cc: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.ne roadster list" Sent: Sun, March 7, 2010 8:45:38 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 engine Los Angeles area. Right Near North Hollywood. Tom PRATHER wrote: > Saw this on craigslist this morning. Where's valley village? Just passing on. > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.com From keithddowning at yahoo.com Mon Mar 8 23:47:08 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 22:47:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Late Model Map Light Replacement Message-ID: <509276.55088.qm@web83301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I just put together this post on 311s.org. I thought I would share it with the list. http://311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11518&start=0 From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 9 09:55:14 2010 From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:55:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Bumpers about 68 or older Message-ID: <101316.12298.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just passing on from Craigslist Los Angeles today. Looks pretty straight as add mentions. From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 9 09:55:49 2010 From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:55:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster bumpers Message-ID: <891625.11728.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> here it is http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/pts/1635371182.html From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 9 10:07:18 2010 From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:07:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Roll bar tall Message-ID: <816246.28678.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Another add from yesterdays Craigslist for roll bar. Sounds rather pricey. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/pts/1635359874.html From eddietude at socal.rr.com Tue Mar 9 10:23:14 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:23:14 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Roll bar tall In-Reply-To: <816246.28678.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <816246.28678.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B968402.1030208@socal.rr.com> You're kidding, right? The vendors get at least $300 for those, and more. Keep in mind the following: Datsun Roadsters haven't been manufactured in over 40 years. When they were, I read somewhere that only about 5,000 cars of both models were imported to the US each year. That's 5000 1600's and 5,000 2 liters. So were talking about 10,000 cars a year. Of those, probably half are long gone. Trashed, crashed, crushed, left to rot, and not worth anything. Of the one's left, less than half are runners, the others are parts cars, and the parts cars are being sold off every year, leaving less and less parts. I'm always amazed at how people seem to want the cars themselves to be worth a ton of money once restored, but they think the parts should be cheap, when there are so few of them! Eddie Tom PRATHER wrote: > Another add from yesterdays Craigslist for roll bar. Sounds rather pricey. > > http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/pts/1635359874.html > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From ronnie.day at gmail.com Tue Mar 9 10:24:14 2010 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:24:14 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Roll bar tall In-Reply-To: <816246.28678.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <816246.28678.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2faaebf81003090924u22f199bbla5feaa2adb667709@mail.gmail.com> > Tom Prather > Another add from yesterdays Craigslist for roll bar. Sounds rather pricey. > > http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/pts/1635359874.html > ________________________________________ It looks well built. I'd compare the asking price to that of a new one. The real question is how much is your head/life worth? That said, I took a similar roll bar out of my '70 2000, primarily because it kept me from pushing the driver's seat all the way back. I honestly doubt that anything short of a full SCCA legal cage is going to help much in an accident, especially one between one of our cars and many of the other vehicles we share the roads with these days. Defensive (paranoid - :>)) driving is the best course of action, IMHO. FWIW, Ron From tputland at charter.net Tue Mar 9 10:35:07 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 9:35:07 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Roll bar tall In-Reply-To: <4B968402.1030208@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <20100309123507.JQHCL.2685628.root@mp12> I got my roll bar for the cost of shipping from CA to WI. Thanks again to the person who "sold" it to me! ---- Eddie wrote: ============= You're kidding, right? The vendors get at least $300 for those, and more. Keep in mind the following: Datsun Roadsters haven't been manufactured in over 40 years. When they were, I read somewhere that only about 5,000 cars of both models were imported to the US each year. That's 5000 1600's and 5,000 2 liters. So were talking about 10,000 cars a year. Of those, probably half are long gone. Trashed, crashed, crushed, left to rot, and not worth anything. Of the one's left, less than half are runners, the others are parts cars, and the parts cars are being sold off every year, leaving less and less parts. I'm always amazed at how people seem to want the cars themselves to be worth a ton of money once restored, but they think the parts should be cheap, when there are so few of them! Eddie Tom PRATHER wrote: > Another add from yesterdays Craigslist for roll bar. Sounds rather pricey. > > http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/pts/1635359874.html > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From eddietude at socal.rr.com Tue Mar 9 10:56:13 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:56:13 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Roll bar tall In-Reply-To: <20100309123507.JQHCL.2685628.root@mp12> References: <20100309123507.JQHCL.2685628.root@mp12> Message-ID: <4B968BBD.8020803@socal.rr.com> And people have fallen off of 10 story buildings and survived... Point is, there's not a lot of parts for these things. Tim wrote: > I got my roll bar for the cost of shipping from CA to WI. Thanks again to the person who "sold" it to me! > > > > ---- Eddie wrote: > > ============= > You're kidding, right? The vendors get at least $300 for those, and more. > > Keep in mind the following: > > Datsun Roadsters haven't been manufactured in over 40 years. > > When they were, I read somewhere that only about 5,000 cars of both > models were imported to the US each year. That's 5000 1600's and 5,000 > 2 liters. > So were talking about 10,000 cars a year. Of those, probably half are > long gone. Trashed, crashed, crushed, left to rot, and not worth anything. > > Of the one's left, less than half are runners, the others are parts > cars, and the parts cars are being sold off every year, leaving less and > less parts. > > I'm always amazed at how people seem to want the cars themselves to be > worth a ton of money once restored, but they think the parts should be > cheap, when there are so few of them! > > Eddie > > > > > Tom PRATHER wrote: > >> Another add from yesterdays Craigslist for roll bar. Sounds rather pricey. >> >> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/pts/1635359874.html >> ________________________________________ >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com >> > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From ronnie.day at gmail.com Tue Mar 9 12:11:39 2010 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 13:11:39 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Roll bar tall In-Reply-To: <4B968BBD.8020803@socal.rr.com> References: <20100309123507.JQHCL.2685628.root@mp12> <4B968BBD.8020803@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <2faaebf81003091111j76cb9e91x29ff38db6a954e9f@mail.gmail.com> > Point is, there's not a lot of parts for these things. Too true, and the situation for 510 parts is rapidly becoming the same. I smack myself frequently when I think of the 510 bits I've tossed out. The situation for Z-Cars is somewhat better, if you can write the check! Motosports Auto and Black Dragon offer most Z sheet metal, glass, body gaskets, etc, AFAIK, but there's no telling how long that'll last. Hopefully a lot longer than parts for the roadsters and the 510s. I've been seriously considering building up a mid '90s Mustang. I like the body style and they're plentiful. As a long Chevy person that may be a hard decision, but there's a lot to be said fior inexpensive buy-in and parts, plus easy availability. Ron From gsglasgow at comcast.net Tue Mar 9 18:23:08 2010 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 17:23:08 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Oil Filter Question In-Reply-To: <8CC8D3EE0C5D95B-8504-43BA@webmail-m052.sysops.aol.com> References: <335611.39054.qm@web30608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8CC8D3EE0C5D95B-8504-43BA@webmail-m052.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <003a01cabff0$3ec36710$bc4a3530$@net> There are several interesting comparison studies that have been done of oil filters. Just Google "oil filter study" and you'll find them. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ljordan704 at netscape.net Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 5:28 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Oil Filter Question WIx filters or Napa Gold are good. Don't use Fram!! Lots of failures. Check out the Wix website for a run down on what makes a good filter. Linda -----Original Message----- From: jim williams To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, Mar 8, 2010 4:36 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Oil Filter Question On a 1970 1600 roadster is it necessary for the tube to remain inside a modern day filter? I guess this is a drain back tube? Left it or remove it? Is there a certain filter that would be better than another?? Jim Williams Lewisburg, West Virginia ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.n e t ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gsglasgow at comcast.net From rabush2000 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 9 21:55:13 2010 From: rabush2000 at hotmail.com (richard bush) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:55:13 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang Registration Form - Website update! Message-ID: Is anyone on the list familiar with the following car, shown at eBay? 1969 Datsun SRL3111969 Datsun 2000 42,000 mile beauty w/ matching numbers R A Bush P O Box 500003 Dubai, handphone: 971 50 456 4357 > Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 02:30:21 -0800 > From: jeffzster at yahoo.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang Registration Form - Website update! > > Hey Everyone, > > I've updated the Solvang registration form to be in a PDF format as opposed to > a JPEG. I was "informed" of it's shortcomings by a few die hards.. Either way > this will work alot better. Thanks Chris at SOCAL for uploading that PDF for > people to get. As far as Im concerned the more avenues to get registered the > better! > > On another note, I've created a fan page on Face Book for the Solvang Show. > I've uploaded pics from 2005 to present and other cool stuff to see. This will > be another way to keep people informed as to any changes or updates for the > show this year. Of course, if you dont have a Facebook page, I will still post > on the list here. Sooo..if you have a Facebook page become a fan and keep up > with the Show! > > Thanks! > > Jeff T. > > p.s. I will update the "registered particiapants page" once we hit 20 > registrations..so if you send yours in, I didnt forget just waiting to upload > a bunch at once... > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > > You are subscribed as rabush2000 at hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Mar 10 09:02:59 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:02:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] OT: FS: Nissan GTP In-Reply-To: <4B97B995.3080300@gbis.com> Message-ID: <475412943.13558831268236979587.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Not your typical ebay Nissan offering: http://tinyurl.com/ygzxh96 From tputland at charter.net Wed Mar 10 09:26:23 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 8:26:23 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: FS: Nissan GTP In-Reply-To: <475412943.13558831268236979587.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20100310112623.L83AX.346366.root@mp08> I hate to see people sell such high dollar stuff on ebay. The money charged by ebay for the final value fee, the paypal fee for payment, and the fee for any reserve amount is bad enough but one this high is crazy. ebay hatin daily now Tim ---- Pete Peters wrote: ============= Not your typical ebay Nissan offering: http://tinyurl.com/ygzxh96 ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From fairlady66 at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 09:27:57 2010 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:27:57 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] SoCal Roadster Celebration Message-ID: *The Southern California Datsun Roadster Owners Club* is celebrating their *10 Year Anniversay*. Since we have made such good friends with so many Datsun owners and clubs we are inviting ALL Datsun owners to our annual Bar B-Q. *SoCalROC 10 Year Anniversary Celebration** April 10, 2010 12-noon to whenever* *Taco Vendor on site. FREE TACOs *for everyone! This is a POT LUCK so bring your *DATSUN *and bring a dish to share. For more information log onto http://www.socalroc.net -- Our Classic Rides: '66 1600 '70 521 510 Wagon in my dreams Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Datsun, then you are lucky enough. From RWM at RWMann.com Wed Mar 10 09:31:53 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:31:53 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: FS: Nissan GTP In-Reply-To: <20100310112623.L83AX.346366.root@mp08> References: <20100310112623.L83AX.346366.root@mp08> Message-ID: <4B97C979.6070106@RWMann.com> Fast, but expensive. GTP and eBay, both.... Tim wrote: > I hate to see people sell such high dollar stuff on ebay. The money charged by ebay for the final value fee, the paypal fee for payment, and the fee for any reserve amount is bad enough but one this high is crazy. > > ebay hatin daily now > > Tim > > > ---- Pete Peters wrote: > > ============= > Not your typical ebay Nissan offering: > > http://tinyurl.com/ygzxh96 From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 10 09:40:35 2010 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:40:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] OT: FS: Nissan GTP In-Reply-To: <4B97C979.6070106@RWMann.com> Message-ID: <98605.30911.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Meg Whitman has to fund her run at the governor's office somehow... ;^) Gary McCormick 1970 2000 SRL311-13291 "Hangar Queen" San Jose, CA --- On Wed, 3/10/10, RWM wrote: From: RWM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: FS: Nissan GTP To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 8:31 AM Fast, but expensive. GTP and eBay, both.... Tim wrote: > I hate to see people sell such high dollar stuff on ebay. The money charged by ebay for the final value fee, the paypal fee for payment, and the fee for any reserve amount is bad enough but one this high is crazy. > > ebay hatin daily now > > Tim > > > ---- Pete Peters wrote: > > ============= > Not your typical ebay Nissan offering: > > http://tinyurl.com/ygzxh96 ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Mar 10 09:42:37 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:42:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Anyone familiar with this roadster on eBay? In-Reply-To: <868082597.13578841268239063617.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <2031930639.13582491268239357825.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Resending with useful Subject line, eBay Item # and URL, and without non-relevant Solvang info. Item number: 320499507048 URL: http://tinyurl.com/yd5n9mq If anyone has info, reply to Richard and/or the list, not me. ----- Original Message ----- From: "richard bush" To: jeffzster at yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2010 8:55:13 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Solvang Registration Form - Website update! Is anyone on the list familiar with the following car, shown at eBay? 1969 Datsun SRL3111969 Datsun 2000 42,000 mile beauty w/ matching numbers R A Bush P O Box 500003 Dubai, handphone: 971 50 456 4357 From keithddowning at yahoo.com Wed Mar 10 13:56:03 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:56:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Seat Belts Message-ID: <160046.54885.qm@web83305.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> What are you all doing for seat belts? I'd feel safer if I had a shoulder strap. Should I just buy an aftermarket set of new belts? Thanks Keith Downing '68 SRL From wrenchorhammer at live.com Wed Mar 10 19:56:28 2010 From: wrenchorhammer at live.com (Jim In Virginia) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:56:28 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: The mysterious goodness of original Armor All Message-ID: For All, I remember a thread in here a year or so that almost got violent about how bad Armor All vinyl protectant was, and then the conversation went on for quite some time about what was best....so please hold the anger, just wanted to make an observation: I just sold my 22 year old Jeep Comanche Pickup truck. This black truck never spent more than a week in the garage over the last 22 years, and has been parked in Florida, South Texas, and Virginia for most of its life. Dash and various vinyl parts care has been limited to one or two treatments per year of a quick wipe with armor all. No cracks in the dash, no splits in the vinyl. Yep, it periodically had to have the inside windows cleaned, once or twice per year, but overall I would say that this stuff works quite well. Best Regards, Jim Chesapeake Virginia 67 pushrod 2L 5spd 66 parts car 72 510 Sportwagon Project 96 Miata M daily Driver 2010 factory ordered built for me Ford F-250!! (5.4, 6spd stick, short cab, long bed, XLT, 4.10LSD, 2WD) And various other more mundane vehicles...... _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsofts powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/ From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 10 21:53:49 2010 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:53:49 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: The mysterious goodness of original Armor All In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B98775D.7080001@sbcglobal.net> The only problem I ever had with Armor All was when I used it on the bench seat in my 70 PL521 truckmade that sucker so slippery that I had to cinch the seatbelt up good and tight to keep from sliding from door to door around corners! The Armor All cleaner did the trick once when I put a pen in my pocket with the cap off (white shirt... ). Sprayed the ink spot with Armor All Cleaner, tossed the shirt in the wash and voil`no spot! Gary McCormick 70 2000 SRL311-13291 Hangar Queen San Jose, CA Jim In Virginia wrote: > For All, > > > > I remember a thread in here a year or so that almost got violent about how bad > Armor All vinyl protectant was, and then the conversation went on for quite > some time about what was best....so please hold the anger, just wanted to make > an observation: > > > > I just sold my 22 year old Jeep Comanche Pickup truck. This black truck never > spent more than a week in the garage over the last 22 years, and has been > parked in Florida, South Texas, and Virginia for most of its life. Dash and > various vinyl parts care has been limited to one or two treatments per year of > a quick wipe with armor all. > > > > No cracks in the dash, no splits in the vinyl. Yep, it periodically had to > have the inside windows cleaned, once or twice per year, but overall I would > say that this stuff works quite well. > > > > Best Regards, > > Jim > > Chesapeake Virginia > > 67 pushrod 2L 5spd > > 66 parts car > > 72 510 Sportwagon Project > > 96 Miata M daily Driver > > 2010 factory ordered built for me Ford F-250!! > > (5.4, 6spd stick, short cab, long bed, XLT, 4.10LSD, 2WD) > > And various other more mundane vehicles...... > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsofts powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/ > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net From aultgc at att.net Wed Mar 10 22:05:55 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:05:55 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: The mysterious goodness of original Armor All References: Message-ID: <4EB7579BC8344881A47CAAA79C2AD554@gaxp1> Jim, I, too, have used it with success for years. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim In Virginia" To: "Datsun Roadsters send mail" Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 8:56 PM Subject: [Roadsters] OT: The mysterious goodness of original Armor All > For All, > > > > I remember a thread in here a year or so that almost got violent about how > bad > Armor All vinyl protectant was, and then the conversation went on for > quite > some time about what was best....so please hold the anger, just wanted to > make > an observation: > > > > I just sold my 22 year old Jeep Comanche Pickup truck. This black truck > never > spent more than a week in the garage over the last 22 years, and has been > parked in Florida, South Texas, and Virginia for most of its life. Dash > and > various vinyl parts care has been limited to one or two treatments per > year of > a quick wipe with armor all. > > > > No cracks in the dash, no splits in the vinyl. Yep, it periodically had > to > have the inside windows cleaned, once or twice per year, but overall I > would > say that this stuff works quite well. > > > > Best Regards, > > Jim > > Chesapeake Virginia > > 67 pushrod 2L 5spd > > 66 parts car > > 72 510 Sportwagon Project > > 96 Miata M daily Driver > > 2010 factory ordered built for me Ford F-250!! > > (5.4, 6spd stick, short cab, long bed, XLT, 4.10LSD, 2WD) > > And various other more mundane vehicles...... > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsofts powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/ > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov Thu Mar 11 06:06:28 2010 From: phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED10)) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:06:28 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: The mysterious goodness of original Armor All In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The only car I had that the dash cracked was a 1968 Datsun Roadster. I could not believe it - the thing actually cracked, even after using Armor All :) When I had the Miata top replaced at a large upholstery shop, I asked them about Armor All and such products. They said to stay away from silicon based products. So, I went home and canceled my wife's breast implant operation.... :) On 3/10/10 8:56 PM, "Jim In Virginia" wrote: For All, I remember a thread in here a year or so that almost got violent about how bad Armor All vinyl protectant was, and then the conversation went on for quite some time about what was best....so please hold the anger, just wanted to make an observation: I just sold my 22 year old Jeep Comanche Pickup truck. This black truck never spent more than a week in the garage over the last 22 years, and has been parked in Florida, South Texas, and Virginia for most of its life. Dash and various vinyl parts care has been limited to one or two treatments per year of a quick wipe with armor all. No cracks in the dash, no splits in the vinyl. Yep, it periodically had to have the inside windows cleaned, once or twice per year, but overall I would say that this stuff works quite well. Best Regards, Jim Chesapeake Virginia 67 pushrod 2L 5spd 66 parts car 72 510 Sportwagon Project 96 Miata M daily Driver 2010 factory ordered built for me Ford F-250!! (5.4, 6spd stick, short cab, long bed, XLT, 4.10LSD, 2WD) And various other more mundane vehicles...... _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsofts powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/ ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/phillip.b.hall at msfc.na sa.gov From d_kroninger at hotmail.com Thu Mar 11 06:29:51 2010 From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:29:51 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] OT Nissan Patrol Message-ID: Check out the Nissan Patrol on B&T! http://bringatrailer.com/2010/03/10/the-anti-fj-black-plate-1964-nissan-patro l/ Dan _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/ From slowboy at cox.net Thu Mar 11 06:58:06 2010 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:58:06 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT Nissan Patrol In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That is a nice one. There is a 69 on Ebay now. http://tinyurl.com/yjbmxr3 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dan Kroninger Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 6:30 AM To: Datsun Mailing List Subject: [Roadsters] OT Nissan Patrol Check out the Nissan Patrol on B&T! http://bringatrailer.com/2010/03/10/the-anti-fj-black-plate-1964-nissan-patr o l/ Dan From davesmbox at aol.com Thu Mar 11 08:54:20 2010 From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:54:20 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Screws in top latches Message-ID: <8CC8F4A3F5ACAE3-5E88-EC62@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> Are they M5 or sae 10? I can't see with the gauge but want to keep them correct. Thanks, Dave From d_kroninger at hotmail.com Thu Mar 11 09:00:50 2010 From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:00:50 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] 311s Message-ID: Happy 311 day everyone! _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ From davesmbox at aol.com Thu Mar 11 11:34:58 2010 From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:34:58 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Screws in top latches In-Reply-To: <803778.12978.qm@web180202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <8CC8F4A3F5ACAE3-5E88-EC62@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> <803778.12978.qm@web180202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CC8F60B00A748B-5E24-2617@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> 69 high wind shield the ones to the top of the window frame. Mine were rusted and want to change to stainless -----Original Message----- From: Gary and Cindy Ault To: davesmbox at aol.com Sent: Thu, Mar 11, 2010 1:10 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Screws in top latches Which screws are you talking about? The ones which hold the latches to the front bar? What year? Gary From: "davesmbox at aol.com" To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 9:54:20 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Screws in top latches Are they M5 or sae 10? I can't see with the gauge but want to keep them correct. Thanks, Dave ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From ljordan704 at netscape.net Thu Mar 11 12:06:54 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:06:54 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: The mysterious goodness of original Armor All In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8CC8F6525C18B29-2264-17AD@webmail-d078.sysops.aol.com> Good one, Phil! Linda -----Original Message----- From: Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED10) To: Jim In Virginia ; Roadsters Sent: Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:06 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: The mysterious goodness of original Armor All The only car I had that the dash cracked was a 1968 Datsun Roadster. I could not believe it - the thing actually cracked, even after using Armor All :) When I had the Miata top replaced at a large upholstery shop, I asked them about Armor All and such products. They said to stay away from silicon based products. So, I went home and canceled my wife's breast implant operation.... :) On 3/10/10 8:56 PM, "Jim In Virginia" wrote: For All, I remember a thread in here a year or so that almost got violent about how bad Armor All vinyl protectant was, and then the conversation went on for quite some time about what was best....so please hold the anger, just wanted to make an observation: I just sold my 22 year old Jeep Comanche Pickup truck. This black truck never spent more than a week in the garage over the last 22 years, and has been parked in Florida, South Texas, and Virginia for most of its life. Dash and various vinyl parts care has been limited to one or two treatments per year of a quick wipe with armor all. No cracks in the dash, no splits in the vinyl. Yep, it periodically had to have the inside windows cleaned, once or twice per year, but overall I would say that this stuff works quite well. Best Regards, Jim Chesapeake Virginia 67 pushrod 2L 5spd 66 parts car 72 510 Sportwagon Project 96 Miata M daily Driver 2010 factory ordered built for me Ford F-250!! (5.4, 6spd stick, short cab, long bed, XLT, 4.10LSD, 2WD) And various other more mundane vehicles...... _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsofts powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/ ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/phillip.b.hall at msfc.na sa.gov ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From d_kroninger at hotmail.com Thu Mar 11 13:09:19 2010 From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:09:19 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Dairyland Datsuns Message-ID: Hey everyone, The Dairyland Datsuns are officially back in business and we are gearing up for the 2010 season (once this snow is gone). We recently created a Facebook fan page to post photos, events, and discussions. If you are on facebook or looking for a good reason to join, please become a fan. Just type "Dairyland Datsuns" in your Facebook search bar, we should be the only ones out there. We are also in the process of putting together some shirts and other assorted D.D. SWAG, which we will be posting to the site. (Disclaimer - SWAG is not being offered to raise money, just to raise awareness of the club and cars. Any prices will be just to cover the cost of the item and shipping.) Hope all is well with everyone. Have a great 2010 season! Dan Dairyland Datsuns '68 1600 _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ From stebharvey at ameritech.net Thu Mar 11 14:33:02 2010 From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:33:02 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel gauge ohm range Message-ID: <001001cac162$6e04bb00$4a0e3100$@net> Group, My 68 L18 doesn't have a fuel gauge in it so I'm planning on installing an aftermarket (Equus) fuel gauge. They sell 3 types with different ohm ratings. I called the factory and the service/support people thought that the 8362 GM unit would work but they couldn't guaranty that it would. Does anyone know the ohm range on our cars? The three ohm choices I have are as follows: #8361: Empty 73 - Full 10 #8362: Empty 0 - Full 90 #8363: Empty 240 - Full 33 Any help is appreciated. Thanks Steve Harvey Milwaukee From slowboy at cox.net Thu Mar 11 15:00:35 2010 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:00:35 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel gauge ohm range In-Reply-To: <001001cac162$6e04bb00$4a0e3100$@net> References: <001001cac162$6e04bb00$4a0e3100$@net> Message-ID: <72F02850C824469C8E3C02F509AC7CAB@HPE170f> When I was taking measurements on a 66 & 67 I got these: Sending Unit: 90Y element 84Y Empty 10Y Full Gauge was: 45Y -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Harvey Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 2:33 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel gauge ohm range Group, My 68 L18 doesn't have a fuel gauge in it so I'm planning on installing an aftermarket (Equus) fuel gauge. They sell 3 types with different ohm ratings. I called the factory and the service/support people thought that the 8362 GM unit would work but they couldn't guaranty that it would. Does anyone know the ohm range on our cars? The three ohm choices I have are as follows: #8361: Empty 73 - Full 10 #8362: Empty 0 - Full 90 #8363: Empty 240 - Full 33 Any help is appreciated. Thanks Steve Harvey Milwaukee ________________________________________ From wrenchorhammer at live.com Thu Mar 11 15:24:57 2010 From: wrenchorhammer at live.com (Jim In Virginia) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:24:57 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: The mysterious goodness of original Armor All In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Now that a good way to save a LOT of money! From: phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov To: wrenchorhammer at live.com; Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:06:28 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: The mysterious goodness of original Armor All The only car I had that the dash cracked was a 1968 Datsun Roadster. I could not believe it  the thing actually cracked, even after using Armor All :) When I had the Miata top replaced at a large upholstery shop, I asked them about Armor All and such products. They said to stay away from silicon based products. So, I went home and canceled my wifes breast implant operation.... :) On 3/10/10 8:56 PM, "Jim In Virginia" wrote: For All, I remember a thread in here a year or so that almost got violent about how bad Armor All vinyl protectant was, and then the conversation went on for quite some time about what was best....so please hold the anger, just wanted to make an observation: I just sold my 22 year old Jeep Comanche Pickup truck. This black truck never spent more than a week in the garage over the last 22 years, and has been parked in Florida, South Texas, and Virginia for most of its life. Dash and various vinyl parts care has been limited to one or two treatments per year of a quick wipe with armor all. No cracks in the dash, no splits in the vinyl. Yep, it periodically had to have the inside windows cleaned, once or twice per year, but overall I would say that this stuff works quite well. Best Regards, Jim Chesapeake Virginia 67 pushrod 2L 5spd 66 parts car 72 510 Sportwagon Project 96 Miata M daily Driver 2010 factory ordered built for me Ford F-250!! (5.4, 6spd stick, short cab, long bed, XLT, 4.10LSD, 2WD) And various other more mundane vehicles...... _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsofts powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/ ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/phillip.b.hall at msfc.na sa.gov _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/ From gcallahan at prodigy.net Thu Mar 11 16:03:25 2010 From: gcallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:03:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel gauge ohm range In-Reply-To: <001001cac162$6e04bb00$4a0e3100$@net> Message-ID: <245905.42830.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> While we are on the subject of Fuel Gauges; is it possible to remove the fuel Gauge or the Speedometer without removing the dash board? I'm afraid of the dash board. Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 68 Datsun 1600 --- On Thu, 3/11/10, Steve Harvey wrote: From: Steve Harvey Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel gauge ohm range To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 1:33 PM Group, My 68 L18 doesn't have a fuel gauge in it so I'm planning on installing an aftermarket (Equus) fuel gauge. They sell 3 types with different ohm ratings. I called the factory and the service/support people thought that the 8362 GM unit would work but they couldn't guaranty that it would. Does anyone know the ohm range on our cars? The three ohm choices I have are as follows: #8361: Empty 73 - Full 10 #8362: Empty 0 - Full 90 #8363: Empty 240 - Full 33 Any help is appreciated. Thanks Steve Harvey Milwaukee ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcallahan at prodigy.net From tputland at charter.net Thu Mar 11 16:14:04 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:14:04 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] manifold bolts Message-ID: <20100311181404.8IQRT.439871.root@mp08> I poked around 311s and didn't really find what I was looking for--no surprise there as I am "search handicapped". I want to have a new set of manifold bolts on hand for when I attempt to install new carbs next month. Where can I get them? Send me some part numbers and a source please. I think I would prefer stainless if available. This is for a 70 1600 that has been desmogged. Thanks Tim From keithddowning at yahoo.com Fri Mar 12 07:28:30 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:28:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Where to get my 5 speed fixed? Message-ID: <762846.54326.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> The 5 speed transmission in my '68 SRL311 suffers from 5th Gear Nueteral. It pops out of gear and into nueteral all by itself. I'm in Orange County, CA. Can anyone make a recommendation on where to take it to get it fixed? I assume there's someone local who's familiar with the issue, but who?. Thanks All Keith Downing From dickschnei at aol.com Fri Mar 12 08:49:37 2010 From: dickschnei at aol.com (dickschnei at aol.com) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:49:37 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 5-speed tranny pops out of 2nd gear Message-ID: <8CC9012C0BC057F-1130-B2A6@webmail-d050.sysops.aol.com> I have been trying to reply to thank you for the help several of you gave me about my 5-speed popping out of 2nd gear, but I must not know how to post a reply. I tried twice to send a reply, but they have not shown up on the mailing list. This is a new posting, under the same title - hopefully it will work. Greg asked where I live. I am in Salina, Kansas a town in the middle of the state 90 miles north of Wichita and 180 miles west of Kansas City. I don't know if any of the local transmission shops will want to tackle this project, but armed with the information I got here I will at least have some idea what to tell them. Since I am not able to work on my cars, both because of a major stroke 4 years ago and a lifelong tendency to screw stuff up when I try to fix anything, I have to rely on others. I probably should not be driving a 40 year old roadster, but my wife and I love it and it takes us back to our youth a bit. I bought a different 2000 brand new in 1970 in Okinawa while I was in the US Air Force. I shipped it to the states a year later when I got out of the service. When I got married in 1973, that was the only car we owned for 5 or 6 years. We took several long trips with the car, including our honeymoon to Cape Cod and Niagra Falls. On that trip we had two bicycles on a rack on the rear bumper asd we were avid cyclists. That car was totalled in 1983 by a hit and run driver while parked in front of our house. I always wanted another, and when I was forced to retire due to my stroke, I started to search for one in earnest. A couple of years ago this one showed up on Ebay not far from where we live, and I bought it. Sorry for the long story (longer for me since I have limited use of my right hand :-) ), but I felt I needed to explain why I am unable to work on the car at all. Thanks for the help and suggestions, Dick Schneiders From ljordan704 at netscape.net Fri Mar 12 09:06:05 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:06:05 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Where to get my 5 speed fixed? In-Reply-To: <762846.54326.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <762846.54326.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CC90150E14F17F-4650-3ADE@webmail-d004.sysops.aol.com> Skip Miller, at Miller Sports Imports in Pasadena can do it. Also Kevin Desirello in Riverside is very knowledgeable. Sorry no numbers, try google or Kevin is on the 311 list. Good luck, Linda -----Original Message----- From: Keith Downing To: Datsun E-Mail List Sent: Fri, Mar 12, 2010 6:28 am Subject: [Roadsters] Where to get my 5 speed fixed? The 5 speed transmission in my '68 SRL311 suffers from 5th Gear Nueteral. It pops out of gear and into nueteral all by itself. I'm in Orange County, CA. Can anyone make a recommendation on where to take it to get it fixed? I assume there's someone local who's familiar with the issue, but who?. Thanks All Keith Downing ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From mark at bradakis.com Fri Mar 12 09:23:49 2010 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:23:49 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 5-speed tranny pops out of 2nd gear In-Reply-To: <8CC9012C0BC057F-1130-B2A6@webmail-d050.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC9012C0BC057F-1130-B2A6@webmail-d050.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4B9A6A95.6060802@bradakis.com> dickschnei at aol.com wrote: > I have been trying to reply to thank you for the help several of you gave me > about my 5-speed popping out of 2nd gear, but I must not know how to post a > reply. I tried twice to send a reply, but they have not shown up on the > mailing list. This is a new posting, under the same title - hopefully it will > work. > To send mail to datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net you send mail to datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net. mjb. From mark at bradakis.com Fri Mar 12 09:33:02 2010 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:33:02 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] More on reply Message-ID: <4B9A6CBE.90406@bradakis.com> Okay, I found another message from a while ago that I sent to some other list, perhaps it might be helpful to some here. I really should write up a nice little FAQ for Team.Net. mjb. I should probably write up something about this like I did for setting the nomail option when heading off on vacation. RealSoonNow. In general, assuming the message is sent to the proper address from a subscribed address it will go through to the list. Exceptions are when it is too large, usually because people can not figure out how to highlight and delete stuff that doesn't need to be sent out once again. Or it may show up as an empty message, or contain a line something like /xiu0iqwy: permission denied In these cases it is the filter that all messages to Team.Net pass through. The filter tries its best to convert all sorts of random stuff from who knows what sort of brain dead software into plain, readable text. For the most part it works pretty well, stripping out useless. bloated RTF crap from Microsoft, malformed HTML from AOL and various sources and other such nonsense. Ever notice those posts where there are odd characters like 'B' in places you wouldn't expect it? Standards are great, there are so many to choose from ;-) If you keep getting such behavior when posting, dig through the documentation for your mail program and try to send in plain text. [ This stuff isn't an issue with http://www.team.net/forums ] If plain text isn't a readily apparent option, sometimes simply changing fonts can remove the introductory setup crap that the filter can't understand and will let it send your message through. From vulforge at aol.com Fri Mar 12 12:04:48 2010 From: vulforge at aol.com (vulforge at aol.com) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:04:48 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Re; removing fuel gauge Message-ID: <8CC902E059B93E7-1AA8-E614@webmail-d096.sysops.aol.com> Gary; if the late cars are like the early ones, you will need to reach behind the dash (tiny hands and extra joints help here) and unscrew the two small wing nuts over the strap that bridges the back of the gauge. Disconnect the sender lead and dash light lead and the gauge will come out to the front. It is a challenge to reassemble! Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1046 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com From keithddowning at yahoo.com Sat Mar 13 07:35:01 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 06:35:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Seat Belts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <889307.94830.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Thanks Joe, that's a good idea. I think I'm going to pass on the original Datsun belts on e-bay. I'm not trying to keep this car stock. I think I might try to find some retractable belts for a Dub, or some other after market solution. Keith ________________________________ From: Joe Russo To: Keith Downing Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 5:35:11 AM Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Seat Belts Hi Keith - I looked around in the stash and didn't have any shoulder straps. I confused those with a 5 point racing harness (for a roadster). All I have is a set of belts. Sorry I did however come across these on eBay... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/3-Point-Seatbelts-Seat-Belts-VW-Beetle-Bug-PAI R-NEW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem53e023c159QQitemZ360242725209QQptZMotorsQ5fC arQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories. They are for a VW but should fit a roadster nicely. I use a pair of VW retractable seat belts in one of my roadster, they work great (and being retractable, are more easier to use) Joe -----Original Message----- >From: Keith Downing [mailto:keithddowning at yahoo.com] >Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 7:00 PM >To: Joe Russo >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Seat Belts > > >Hi Joe, > >I appreciate the offer. I would take both if you have them. > >Best Wishes, > >Keith > > > > ________________________________ From: Joe Russo >To: Keith Downing >Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 3:49:20 PM >Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Seat Belts > > >Keith - I might have some shoulder straps in my "stuff" - let me know if you want me to look around. Do you want the pair or just one for the diver? Not sure how many (if any I might have). > >Joe >-----Original Message----- >>From: Keith Downing [mailto:keithddowning at yahoo.com] >>Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 6:33 PM >>To: Joe Russo >>Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Seat Belts >> >> >>My '68 does not have the strap, but has the mount on the inner wheel well tub. >> >> >> >> ________________________________ From: Joe Russo >>To: Keith Downing >>Sent: Wed, March 10, 2010 3:05:21 PM >>Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Seat Belts >> >>Later versions (68 thru 70 I think) have shoulder straps. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net >>[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Keith Downing >>Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 3:56 PM >>To: Datsun E-Mail List >>Subject: [Roadsters] Seat Belts >> >> >>What are you all doing for seat belts? I'd feel safer if I had a shoulder >>strap. Should I just buy an aftermarket set of new belts? >> >>Thanks >> >>Keith >>Downing >>'68 SRL >>________________________________________ >>Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Suggested annual donation $16.00 >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/jrusso07 at rochester.r r.com From dickschnei at aol.com Sat Mar 13 07:50:31 2010 From: dickschnei at aol.com (dickschnei at aol.com) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:50:31 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 5-speed tranny pops out of 2nd gear In-Reply-To: <4B9A6A95.6060802@bradakis.com> References: <8CC9012C0BC057F-1130-B2A6@webmail-d050.sysops.aol.com> <4B9A6A95.6060802@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <8CC90D3AA04028B-3FE0-D584@webmail-d071.sysops.aol.com> That is what I did, twice, but they didn't show up on the mailing list. That seemed to be the most intuitive, but for some reason they were ignored. This reply is primarily a test. Thanks dickschnei at aol.com wrote: > I have been trying to reply to thank you for the help several of you gave me > about my 5-speed popping out of 2nd gear, but I must not know how to post a > reply. I tried twice to send a reply, but they have not shown up on the > mailing list. This is a new posting, under the same title - hopefully it will > work. > To send mail to datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net you send mail to datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net. mjb. -----Original Message----- From: Mark J Bradakis To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, Mar 12, 2010 10:23 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 5-speed tranny pops out of 2nd gear dickschnei at aol.com wrote: > I have been trying to reply to thank you for the help several of you gave me > about my 5-speed popping out of 2nd gear, but I must not know how to post a > reply. I tried twice to send a reply, but they have not shown up on the > mailing list. This is a new posting, under the same title - hopefully it will > work. > To send mail to datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net you send mail to datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net. mjb. ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/dickschnei at aol.com From escanlon at wa-net.com Sat Mar 13 10:23:48 2010 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:23:48 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 5-speed tranny pops out of 2nd gear References: <8CC9012C0BC057F-1130-B2A6@webmail-d050.sysops.aol.com><4B9A6A95.6060802@bradakis.com> <8CC90D3AA04028B-3FE0-D584@webmail-d071.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: You've apparently resolved the issue. Some mail lists refuse mail from e-mail addresses NOT on the subscription list, but that address may be an "also known as" type of address by your service provider. This is the case with some Yahoo, sbcglobal, att, and other mail servers. Or, as in my service provider's case, it used to be worldaccessnet.com, whch has been shortened to wa-net.com but BOTH can still be used. Since I originally registered to the mail-list under the long name, I needed to update the list with the shorter name in order to be able to post, or have my mail program send my address as the long name. I didn't stop receiving the list, I just couldn't post until I had done that step. FWIW E > That is what I did, twice, but they didn't show up on the mailing list. > That > seemed to be the most intuitive, but for some reason they were ignored. > > This reply is primarily a test. > > Thanks From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sat Mar 13 10:46:07 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:46:07 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Replies don't always post In-Reply-To: <8CC90D3AA04028B-3FE0-D584@webmail-d071.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC9012C0BC057F-1130-B2A6@webmail-d050.sysops.aol.com><4B9A6A95.6060802@bradakis.com> <8CC90D3AA04028B-3FE0-D584@webmail-d071.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <7D92FDDF311B4309912C71EEECAC51B8@xp> I use plain ASCII text, but still some replies will not post. Not consistent behavior, though usually on the longer replies. Sometimes just copying them into a new email rather than replying will work, so how can it be the length when it's the same length? Dunno. Doesn't happen on any other mail lists I'm on. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dickschnei at aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 6:51 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 5-speed tranny pops out of 2nd gear That is what I did, twice, but they didn't show up on the mailing list. That seemed to be the most intuitive, but for some reason they were ignored. This reply is primarily a test. Thanks dickschnei at aol.com wrote: > I have been trying to reply to thank you for the help several of you > gave me about my 5-speed popping out of 2nd gear, but I must not know > how to post a reply. I tried twice to send a reply, but they have not > shown up on the mailing list. This is a new posting, under the same > title - hopefully it will > work. > To send mail to datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net you send mail to datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net. mjb. -----Original Message----- From: Mark J Bradakis To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, Mar 12, 2010 10:23 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 5-speed tranny pops out of 2nd gear dickschnei at aol.com wrote: > I have been trying to reply to thank you for the help several of you > gave me about my 5-speed popping out of 2nd gear, but I must not know > how to post a reply. I tried twice to send a reply, but they have not > shown up on the mailing list. This is a new posting, under the same > title - hopefully it will > work. > To send mail to datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net you send mail to datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net. mjb. ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/dickschnei at aol.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From jishpo at yahoo.com Sat Mar 13 15:16:00 2010 From: jishpo at yahoo.com (Shayna & Jim Powell) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:16:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Change of email Message-ID: <6242.79063.qm@web38205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> How do I change the email address to which I wish my roadster emails sent? I have a new email address. Jim From tputland at charter.net Sat Mar 13 16:23:39 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:23:39 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] inner front fenders Message-ID: <20100313182339.6ZBCK.2940293.root@mp16> Does any one have pictures of already removed front inner fenders? Or pictures that show what should be cut away from the body? I have read descriptions there of, but cannot get a picture in my head. We are going to do some cutting on one of my part cars tomorrow. Despite being totally rusty and non-salvageable, I think these may indeed still be ok to save. Thanks Tim Dairyland Datsuns From mark at bradakis.com Sat Mar 13 18:24:28 2010 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:24:28 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Change of email In-Reply-To: <6242.79063.qm@web38205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <6242.79063.qm@web38205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B9C3ACC.1060909@bradakis.com> Shayna & Jim Powell wrote: > How do I change the email address to which I wish my roadster emails sent? I have a new email address. > Click on the unsubscribe/admin link below. Unsubscribe your old address, subscribe your new one. And some of you who wonder why your replies don't make it to the list might want to notice how my reply only includes the one line pertinent to the discussion, and not the *entire* *original* *message* mjb. From tpsmithstl at yahoo.com Sun Mar 14 14:42:01 2010 From: tpsmithstl at yahoo.com (Perry Smith) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Head Installation Message-ID: <595926.95069.qm@web50005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi all, It's been a while, but I'm ready to put the head back on my '68 2000 after the nasty "Evil-L" episode of a couple years ago. I bent roug valves on that one! The head is redone and the valve train was re-installed at the machine shop. When I pulled the head, I took the intak, exhaust manifolds and head off together. Questions raised are: 1. Is it easier to just put the head back on and then the intake and exhaust manifolds separately, or try to put them together off the car first (as I did when removing them) to put the head back on? 2. Should I just pull the whole engine, assemble everyting and then put it back in the car? I have the manual, so my plan is to set the timing manually/ My only concern is getting the timing 180-degrees off so I don't end-up back when re I started. Any idea bout whether the manual has a sure-fire way of making sure that doens't happen. (Sorry, I'm really tired or I'd look it up myself!) Thanks, Perry Smith '68 2K, still U20 From stebharvey at ameritech.net Sun Mar 14 15:11:32 2010 From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:11:32 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank electrical question Message-ID: <000001cac3c3$4ed9dc20$ec8d9460$@net> I drove over to Tim's house today and cut out the trunk floor from a Junker which I'm going to install in my white 68 L18. I have a very nice gas tank that I'll be pulling in as well. My question is, there are two round headed electrical connecter posts on the tank sending unit. Can I assume that one is the positive power post and the other a ground post? If that is correct, does anyone know which of the two posts is (+) and which (-)? Thanks Steve Milwaukee Hit 51 F today! From aultgc at att.net Sun Mar 14 16:12:12 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:12:12 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank electrical question References: <000001cac3c3$4ed9dc20$ec8d9460$@net> Message-ID: <054D62872B0C4D5987F0A1F88EAB750E@gaxp1> Steve, The tank unit is just a variable resistor, through which current flows to ground. The deflection of the gauge depends on the magnitude of the current. It should make no difference which way current flows through the tank unit. If it were important, I think Nissan would have marked the terminals. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Harvey" To: Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 5:11 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank electrical question >I drove over to Tim's house today and cut out the trunk floor from a Junker > which I'm going to install in my white 68 L18. I have a very nice gas tank > that I'll be pulling in as well. My question is, there are two round > headed > electrical connecter posts on the tank sending unit. Can I assume that one > is the positive power post and the other a ground post? If that is > correct, > does anyone know which of the two posts is (+) and which (-)? > > > > Thanks > > > > Steve > > Milwaukee > > Hit 51 F today! > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sun Mar 14 16:21:52 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:21:52 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank electrical question In-Reply-To: <000001cac3c3$4ed9dc20$ec8d9460$@net> References: <000001cac3c3$4ed9dc20$ec8d9460$@net> Message-ID: Correct. There should be one post slightly higher and insulated for the positive lead (usually yellow): http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l221/ppeters914/roadster%20parts/gassender 1.jpg Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Harvey Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 3:12 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank electrical question I drove over to Tim's house today and cut out the trunk floor from a Junker which I'm going to install in my white 68 L18. I have a very nice gas tank that I'll be pulling in as well. My question is, there are two round headed electrical connecter posts on the tank sending unit. Can I assume that one is the positive power post and the other a ground post? If that is correct, does anyone know which of the two posts is (+) and which (-)? Thanks Steve Milwaukee From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sun Mar 14 16:26:08 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:26:08 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank electrical question In-Reply-To: <054D62872B0C4D5987F0A1F88EAB750E@gaxp1> References: <000001cac3c3$4ed9dc20$ec8d9460$@net> <054D62872B0C4D5987F0A1F88EAB750E@gaxp1> Message-ID: <8C8E8C066AAC4B7B9A52C3B23E0BD00C@xp> It does make a difference. Backwards and you'll be shorting directly to ground causing gauge to always read full. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary and Cindy Ault Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 4:12 PM To: Steve Harvey; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Gas tank electrical question Steve, The tank unit is just a variable resistor, through which current flows to ground. The deflection of the gauge depends on the magnitude of the current. It should make no difference which way current flows through the tank unit. If it were important, I think Nissan would have marked the terminals. Gary -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Harvey Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 3:12 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank electrical question I drove over to Tim's house today and cut out the trunk floor from a Junker which I'm going to install in my white 68 L18. I have a very nice gas tank that I'll be pulling in as well. My question is, there are two round headed electrical connecter posts on the tank sending unit. Can I assume that one is the positive power post and the other a ground post? If that is correct, does anyone know which of the two posts is (+) and which (-)? Thanks Steve Milwaukee From aultgc at att.net Sun Mar 14 16:48:10 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:48:10 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Head Installation References: <595926.95069.qm@web50005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Perry, I presume you did not pull the engine to pull the head. You do not say whether you replaced the chains and sprockets. If you did, I presume you have lined up the timing marks on the sprockets as shown in the manual. 1. Put the head on with or without the manifolds, as you prefer. I have always pulled the manifolds before removing the head when doing head work with the engine in the car, but do whichever works well for you. It will be easier to get at the inner studs/nuts on Number 4 exhaust port with the head off the car. 2. No need to pull the engine. 3. Follow the alignment diagram on Page 23 of the shop manual, and you won't go wrong. (Again, you didn't say whether you replaced the chains and sprockets. If you did not, then I presume you preserved the position of the camshaft sprocket with the upper chain. If you lose that relationship, I know no way to correct things short of removing the oil pan, water pump and timing cover to make sure all alignment marks are in the correct position.) Sorry I could not be more help with Point 3. Provide more detail on what has been done to the engine, and how the timing component relationships have bee maintained or re-established, and perhaps I can say something further. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Perry Smith" To: Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 4:42 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Head Installation > Hi all, > > It's been a while, but I'm ready to put the head back on my '68 2000 > after the nasty "Evil-L" episode of a couple years ago. I bent roug > valves on > that one! The head is redone and the valve train was re-installed at the > machine shop. When I pulled the head, I took the intak, exhaust manifolds > and > head off together. Questions raised are: > > 1. Is it easier to just put the head > back on and then the intake and exhaust manifolds separately, or try to > put > them together off the car first (as I did when removing them) to put the > head > back on? > > 2. Should I just pull the whole engine, assemble everyting and then > put it back in the car? > > I have the manual, so my plan is to set the timing > manually/ My only concern is getting the timing 180-degrees off so I > don't > end-up back when re I started. Any idea bout whether the manual has a > sure-fire way of making sure that doens't happen. (Sorry, I'm really > tired or > I'd look it up myself!) > > Thanks, > Perry Smith > '68 2K, still U20 > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From aultgc at att.net Sun Mar 14 16:57:51 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:57:51 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Antenna Message-ID: <529A34A706F54D96B29BFBEC002AFB2F@gaxp1> Marc, Check still OK? Still at: 777 Mile Square Road Pittsford, New York 14534? We're OK. I had surgery on my left shoulder about a month ago; returned to work last Monday. Send some photos of the car, if you can, and I'll ask around. Are you on the "Autox.Team.net" discussion list? 311s.org? Good places to advertise for free. Can't post photos to autox.team.net, but you can post links, or ask interested parties to contact you off-list. Also, Dean Apostle will allow you to list your car on his datsunparts site for free/no commission. Visit the site for his requirements. If you're not a member of the list, I will be happy to list the car on your behalf if you provide a description. Same for 311s.org. (Joining both is free.) Gary From aultgc at att.net Sun Mar 14 17:11:09 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:11:09 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank electrical question References: <000001cac3c3$4ed9dc20$ec8d9460$@net><054D62872B0C4D5987F0A1F88EAB750E@gaxp1> <8C8E8C066AAC4B7B9A52C3B23E0BD00C@xp> Message-ID: <167B12043E8849819B573AA315C92A18@gaxp1> Pete, Well, that is certainly embarrassing. I was going from memory, and checked only the wiring diagram. I didn't realize on terminal is grounded to the body through the mounting flange. The separate ground wire must be there in case the mounting flange-body connection becomes corroded. In theory it should not make a difference, but, with the configuration of the Nissan sending unit, it certainly does. Sorry, Steve. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" To: Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Gas tank electrical question > It does make a difference. Backwards and you'll be shorting directly to > ground causing gauge to always read full. > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary and > Cindy > Ault > Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 4:12 PM > To: Steve Harvey; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Gas tank electrical question > > Steve, > > The tank unit is just a variable resistor, through which current flows to > ground. The deflection of the gauge depends on the magnitude of the > current. It should make no difference which way current flows through the > tank unit. If it were important, I think Nissan would have marked the > terminals. > > Gary > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Harvey > Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 3:12 PM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank electrical question > > I drove over to Tim's house today and cut out the trunk floor from a > Junker > which I'm going to install in my white 68 L18. I have a very nice gas tank > that I'll be pulling in as well. My question is, there are two round > headed > electrical connecter posts on the tank sending unit. Can I assume that one > is the positive power post and the other a ground post? If that is > correct, > does anyone know which of the two posts is (+) and which (-)? > > Thanks > > Steve > Milwaukee > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Sun Mar 14 20:24:22 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:24:22 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Sherlock Holmes to the fore - Eliza No Va - HELP Message-ID: Situation All worked FINE before I took it all apart - only apparent change was extending the pertonics wires with butt connectors. Alternator and regulator disconnected Pertronics ignition, coil + Ballast Negative Post grounded to chassis Ground from Chassis to Engine (also grounded alternator to frame) and ground from bolt holding in starter motor to frame. Additional 'pigtail' from the negative post grounded to the bolt that holds the regulator to the body. All above grounds checked, clean, bright Starter turns, car fires up when key is turned to 'start' but stops when released to 'run' Disconnect the 'pigtail' and I have NOTHING - no lights, NADA. Connect up the positive battery to the positive coil and the car starts,runs but doesn't stop until the connection is removed. Checked all the connectors under the drivers side up against the firewall - opened them up - all bright shiny - cleaned them and rehooked - no change Clues When pigtail is connected, with a light connected to the positive coil, no light, unground the pigtail, juice to the coil, but no start but light comes on. Using trouble light on the positive - i have grounds all over the engine, block, head chassis, body. HELP Good battery - no idea - need to get this running SOON many miles to go before i sleep From Mike.Roney at RaymondJames.com Mon Mar 15 05:00:50 2010 From: Mike.Roney at RaymondJames.com (Michael Roney) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:00:50 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 5-speed tranny pops out of 2nd gear ......Where to get my 5 speed fixed? Message-ID: <6819BB70681BCC4B9BBA44F1F0EE595D04A3546C@WREN5.rjf.com> I echo Linda' s sentiment that Skip Miller can fix your transmission. Skip had my roadster in his shop for about a month before it made the trek across country in a transport. And it will not break you in costs as he was very fair with me. 626-793-0487 Address: 80 N ALTADENA DR City: PASADENA, CA Zip Code: 91107 Mike '69 SRL 311 Best, Mike Vice President, Investments Investment Management Consultant Wealth Management Specialist www.theroneygroup.com Raymond James & Associates 8351 N. 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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Mon Mar 15 06:39:00 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 06:39:00 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Eliza no Va - additional question Message-ID: Question When ignition switch is at 'start' - then power goes to the coil through the white/yellow wire (bypassing the resistor) and when released to 'run' goes to the coil VIA the resistor. Have I got this right? Thx Peter From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Mon Mar 15 08:48:33 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:48:33 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Eliza not working - recap Message-ID: 1970 SPL 311 Using Pertronics dizzy WITH ballast resistor Grounds as follows :Negative post to FrameNegative post to body (bolt that holds down the resistor)Frame to engine (passenger side)Alternator to frameStarter motor body to frame Car "starts" but does not "run" UNLESS the POSITIVE battery post and POSITIVE coil are connected. With the negative post to BODY disconnected - NO activity - connected - everything works - lights etc. From ronnie.day at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 09:00:56 2010 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:00:56 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Eliza not working - recap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2faaebf81003150900m6097f2afsa1df463434a9c89@mail.gmail.com> > Peter > 1970 SPL 311 > Using Pertronics dizzy WITH ballast resistor > Grounds as follows :Negative post to Frame. Negative post to body (bolt that > holds down the resistor)Frame to engine (passenger side)Alternator to > frameStarter motor body to frame > Car "starts" but does not "run" UNLESS the POSITIVE battery post and POSITIVE > coil are connected. > With the negative post to BODY disconnected - NO activity - connected - > everything works - lights etc. Peter, If you haven't already I'd strongly suggest getting the '70 wiring diagram in the Wiki section of 311s.org and getting it printed and laminated as large as you can. Jim did an outstanding job of reproducing this thing in color. The larger you can get it printed, the better, IMO. I think Staples charged me less that $5 for 11 x 17, around $20 for 24 x 36. Trace every wire. Even if the colors aren't the same you should be able to trace point to point. Unless you've pulled wires out of the molded plastic connectors you should be okay there. Even as simple as the electrical systems are on these cars a good diagram is is a tremendous help. HTH, Ron From pat at hornesystemstx.com Mon Mar 15 10:49:08 2010 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:49:08 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Eliza not working - recap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B9E7314.4080603@hornesystemstx.com> Peter, I believe you have ground problem. I believe the body is not grounded when the wire to the regulator mounting bolt is disconnected, hence, all the body-mounted items (lights, etc) do not work when the wire is disconnected. The ignition problem probably has something to do with sneak paths that the ungrounded body provides. Run a #12 or preferably a braid from the body to the chassis and you should be set to go Peace, Pat. Thusly spake peter harrison, On 3/15/2010 10:48 AM: > 1970 SPL 311 > Using Pertronics dizzy WITH ballast resistor > Grounds as follows :Negative post to FrameNegative post to body (bolt that > holds down the resistor)Frame to engine (passenger side)Alternator to > frameStarter motor body to frame > Car "starts" but does not "run" UNLESS the POSITIVE battery post and POSITIVE > coil are connected. > With the negative post to BODY disconnected - NO activity - connected - > everything works - lights etc. > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/pat at hornesystemstx.com > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From ljordan704 at netscape.net Mon Mar 15 11:10:54 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:10:54 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Body grounds Message-ID: <8CC9281FD3D6D01-4A2C-48C@webmail-m010.sysops.aol.com> Do the headlight buckets and tail light housings have to be directly grounded to the body? How about the alternator via the mounting bolt as a grounding point also? I know there needs to be wire grounds but wonder about other types of ground points. TIA, Linda From pat at hornesystemstx.com Mon Mar 15 12:05:52 2010 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:05:52 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Body grounds In-Reply-To: <8CC9281FD3D6D01-4A2C-48C@webmail-m010.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC9281FD3D6D01-4A2C-48C@webmail-m010.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4B9E8510.7090801@hornesystemstx.com> The headlights and tail lights have ground wires that run back to grounding points, originally on the frame. Over the years those connections may have migrated to the body. There are some devices that use the body for ground, specifically, the door switches and map light. There are probably more, but I can't remember. The connection for the front grounds is on the left frame rail, near the front carb. I believe there is also one behind the rear bumper, near the license plate light. The alternator mound is not a reliable ground because the alternator housing is aluminum and the mount is steel. Galvanic action can build up corrosion in the joint causing less than perfect grounding. It's been too long since I've been into my car to be sure of these, guess I need to get back into the shop and finish the engine rebuild! Peace, Pat Thusly spake ljordan704 at netscape.net, On 3/15/2010 1:10 PM: > Do the headlight buckets and tail light housings have to be directly grounded > to the body? How about the alternator via the mounting bolt as a grounding > point also? I know there needs to be wire grounds but wonder about other types > of ground points. > > TIA, > > Linda > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/pat at hornesystemstx.com > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From dth104 at psu.edu Mon Mar 15 15:48:13 2010 From: dth104 at psu.edu (Daniel Heinze) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:48:13 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] U20 Crank Pulley (Harmonic Balancer) In-Reply-To: <2031930639.13582491268239357825.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <2031930639.13582491268239357825.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: At idle with the tranny in neutral and the clutch released, the crank pulley on my U20 hits the cross member below it just enough to make a horrible clatter. Depressing the clutch or driving the car seems to lift the engine just enough to stop the clatter. What's the likelyhood that the crank pulley is out of round and needs replacing? The engine and tranny mounts are new and in good condition. Any thoughts, suggestions or solutions will be appreciated. Thanks Dan Heinze 68 Solex 2000 From az589 at lafn.org Mon Mar 15 17:26:13 2010 From: az589 at lafn.org (Stan Chernoff) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:26:13 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] U20 Crank Pulley (Harmonic Balancer) In-Reply-To: References: <2031930639.13582491268239357825.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20100315162505.05025e08@lafn.org> Dan, Sounds like you need new engine mounts. Stan === At 02:48 PM 3/15/2010, Daniel Heinze wrote: >At idle with the tranny in neutral and the clutch released, the >crank pulley on my U20 hits the cross member below it just enough to >make a horrible clatter. Depressing the clutch or driving the car >seems to lift the engine just enough to stop the clatter. > >What's the likelyhood that the crank pulley is out of round and >needs replacing? The engine and tranny mounts are new and in good condition. > >Any thoughts, suggestions or solutions will be appreciated. > >Thanks > >Dan Heinze From fred.davidson at sympatico.ca Mon Mar 15 17:55:51 2010 From: fred.davidson at sympatico.ca (fred.davidson at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:55:51 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] U20 Crank Pulley (Harmonic Balancer) In-Reply-To: References: <2031930639.13582491268239357825.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>, Message-ID: Hi Dan: If you have any concern about the harmonic balancer, I suggest contacting http://www.dalemfg.com to have yours rebuilt. There is a difference I have found with a rebuild. The harmonic balancer is two metal pieces sandwiched together with rubber in the center to absorb engine vibration. The rubber gets harder with age and heat. It is less expensive to have one rebuilt and will be better than a new one off the shelf. It almost sounds as if your engine is sitting to low in front for some reason. Your problem may not be the harmonic balancer or at least not only the harmonic balancer. Fred > From: dth104 at psu.edu > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:48:13 -0700 > Subject: [Roadsters] U20 Crank Pulley (Harmonic Balancer) > > At idle with the tranny in neutral and the clutch released, the crank pulley > on my U20 hits the cross member below it just enough to make a horrible > clatter. Depressing the clutch or driving the car seems to lift the engine > just enough to stop the clatter. > > What's the likelyhood that the crank pulley is out of round and needs > replacing? The engine and tranny mounts are new and in good condition. > > Any thoughts, suggestions or solutions will be appreciated. > > Thanks > > Dan Heinze > > 68 Solex 2000 > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/fred.davidson at sympatic o.ca From datrock at centurytel.net Mon Mar 15 18:56:25 2010 From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:56:25 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] U20 Crank Pulley (Harmonic Balancer) In-Reply-To: References: <2031930639.13582491268239357825.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B9EE549.80102@centurytel.net> Dan, I can think of a few reasons that could make it hit the cross frame, first you will want to make sure that the outer ring on the front balance/pulley is not separated from it's hub.Also make sure that you have the lower profile 5 speed crossmember, the taller 4 speed crossmember will make the pulley closer than it should be. Then make sure your engine mounts are solid and not mushy. Last thing is a long shot but it can happen and it will effect the engine placement, if the left side engine mount had been replace with an early model style, some people replace the cast iron bracket with an early model bracket when they switch to an early style altenator on the right side of the engine. I hope these ideas may help...Bill From aultgc at att.net Mon Mar 15 18:35:17 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:35:17 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Body grounds References: <8CC9281FD3D6D01-4A2C-48C@webmail-m010.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <2A0A86445712482E85495E471F86BE63@gaxp1> Linda, When new, each of the lamp assemblies had individual ground wires , which ran to the body at some point. None relied on contact between the lamp assembly and the body. For example, there should be three wires to each headlamp -- one for low beam, one for high beam, and a ground. The alternators have a dedicated ground connection on the housing. (I am the second owner of my '66 1600, and it was basically unmolested when I bought it in 1971.) There is (I think) a #10 wire from the alternator housing to the frame. There is a similar wire from the regulator mounting bracket to the frame. There is a ground strap from the frame to the engine block (added, not original). There is also a ground wire (real heavy) from the starter bolt on the trans to the frame nearby. (That ground was missing from my '67-1/2 when I bought it a couple of years ago. Replacing it didn't make any difference in starter performance, but you can't have too many grounds. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Body grounds > Do the headlight buckets and tail light housings have to be directly > grounded > to the body? How about the alternator via the mounting bolt as a grounding > point also? I know there needs to be wire grounds but wonder about other > types > of ground points. > > TIA, > > Linda > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Mon Mar 15 19:33:13 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:33:13 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Eliza VA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: Switched the black 'run' wires around (though frankly I can't see what difference it makes) and Eliza is running - lights etc. etc. etc. Thanks for all the tips and support - great to have people who are prepared to assist, even at long distance. See you at solvang! Peter From john_m_toda at yahoo.com Tue Mar 16 00:06:58 2010 From: john_m_toda at yahoo.com (john_m_toda at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:06:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for a Datsun tune up specialist Message-ID: <856086.86964.qm@web83501.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> All- I live in Sacramento, CA and in need of a mechanic to tune my roadster. Need to get her ready...spring is coming! Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, John T. From Mike.Roney at RaymondJames.com Tue Mar 16 11:24:19 2010 From: Mike.Roney at RaymondJames.com (Michael Roney) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:24:19 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for a Datsun tune up specialist Message-ID: <6819BB70681BCC4B9BBA44F1F0EE595D04A3581B@WREN5.rjf.com> John: Contact Mike Young at Datsun Sports. www.datsunsports.com He is in San Francisco and Williams, CA. Good guy, great source of parts and everything roadster. 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Raymond James monitors emails and may be required by law or regulation to disclose emails to third parties. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image002.jpg] From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Tue Mar 16 15:59:28 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:59:28 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Alignment Question Message-ID: I completely disassembled/reassembled front suspension (replacing lower ball joints in process) Everything is bolted up and now there is at least a 25 degree toe-out!!! I realise I can adjust the center rod between the tierods - but I am just wondering what could have possible caused such a HUGE discrepancy. Peter (Eliza) From twobeaners at earthlink.net Tue Mar 16 16:24:04 2010 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:24:04 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Alignment Question References: Message-ID: <6A97415642F94BA59AD7F9547DC486F5@lap120> Did you replace the front springs with front competition springs? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter harrison" To: "datsun" Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 5:59 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Alignment Question >I completely disassembled/reassembled front suspension (replacing lower >ball > joints in process) > Everything is bolted up and now there is at least a 25 degree toe-out!!! > > I realise I can adjust the center rod between the tierods - but I am just > wondering what could have possible caused such a HUGE discrepancy. > > Peter (Eliza) > ________________________________________ From graemes at internode.on.net Tue Mar 16 17:15:39 2010 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:45:39 +1030 Subject: [Roadsters] Alignment Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <35AE309E762346CD8A1B88BA0D3A45F8@desktop> Did you remove and replace either the steering or idler arms? They need to be pointing dead ahead and parallel when the steering box/wheel is in the dead ahead position. Anything else and you won't have enough adjustment on the centre rod to correct the issue. "I realise I can adjust the center rod between the tierods - but I am just wondering what could have possible caused such a HUGE discrepancy. Peter (Eliza)" From aultgc at att.net Tue Mar 16 20:55:19 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:55:19 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Alignment Question References: Message-ID: Peter, One of the other List members (Graeme?) asked if you had removed the steering (Pittman) arm or idler arm. Did you? If so, did you re-fit it (them) properly? I can't speak to the idler shaft, but the steering shaft is splined. It is only possible to put the steering arm back on properly in one of four positions, 90 degrees apart, because four of the splines are wider than the others, and the arm will not fit over the shaft correctly unless one of the wider grooves in the arm aligns with one of the wider splines. You can, however, get the nut onto the threads, so it might appear that it is correctly assembled. Are you sure you did not have the 25-degree condition before you dismantled the suspension? Last summer, I replaced the steering box in my '67-1/2 (with as used one which has virtually no play). When I got things back together, I noticed a clear toe-out condition, whereas the standard is toe-in. Crawled under the car and measured the difference between the rear edges of the tires and the front edges of the tires. Did the same on may '66, which was clearly set for the correct toe-in. I completely dismantled steering again, trying to figure out what I had done wrong. I was at my wits' end. Then, conferring with one of our suppliers, and a member of a local race team led me to conclude that the toe-out had been there all along, and was, indeed, OK. (The clincher was when the racing guy said "I'll bet the car turns in to corners real quick.") It does. So I left it alone. Hope that helps. If not, at least the price wasn't so dear. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter harrison" To: "datsun" Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 5:59 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Alignment Question >I completely disassembled/reassembled front suspension (replacing lower >ball > joints in process) > Everything is bolted up and now there is at least a 25 degree toe-out!!! > > I realise I can adjust the center rod between the tierods - but I am just > wondering what could have possible caused such a HUGE discrepancy. > > Peter (Eliza) > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com Wed Mar 17 11:12:32 2010 From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:12:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] corner weights Message-ID: <518516.70085.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hi everyone i was at the track last weekend (California Speedway), and had the opportunity to weigh my car finally, with the following results (with me in it, and about 1/2 tank of gas): LF: 592 RF: 494 LR: 476 RR: 491. total 2053. i'm about 200 with my helmet. s 675MIZU From ronnie.day at gmail.com Wed Mar 17 11:28:48 2010 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:28:48 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] corner weights In-Reply-To: <518516.70085.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <518516.70085.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2faaebf81003171128l5929d88eva15398e9aa9fb703@mail.gmail.com> Interesting. Wonder why the 100 lb diff at the LF? Is your battery in the stock location? Did you get corner weights w/o you in the car? YOU might be the difference I guess! > i was at the track last weekend (California Speedway), and had the opportunity to weigh my car finally, with the following results (with me in it, and about 1/2 tank of gas): > > LF: B 592 B B B RF: B 494 > > LR: B 476 B B B RR: B 491. > > total 2053. B i'm about 200 with my helmet. From roadsterx at hotmail.com Wed Mar 17 12:20:25 2010 From: roadsterx at hotmail.com (michael poorboy) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:20:25 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] corner weights In-Reply-To: <518516.70085.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <518516.70085.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Steven, That total numbers with you in the car is pretty good. My car was in the 2100 area with Jeff in the car at about the same or less weight then you. Not much you can do about the corner weights if unless you go to an adjustable suspension, unless you are carrying ballast :( . My battery, although, very small is located on the passenger seat area. The Accusump is mounted behind me on the package shelf, and I have a large fuel cell that was used for an enduro. Mike > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:12:32 -0700 > From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] corner weights > > hi everyone > i was at the track last weekend (California Speedway), and had the opportunity to weigh my car finally, with the following results (with me in it, and about 1/2 tank of gas): > > LF: 592 RF: 494 > > LR: 476 RR: 491. > > total 2053. i'm about 200 with my helmet. > > s > 675MIZU _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850553/direct/01/ From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com Wed Mar 17 13:03:01 2010 From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:03:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] corner weights In-Reply-To: <951142.80224.qm@web58703.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <951142.80224.qm@web58703.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <837520.25415.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hi again to answer some questions: my seat is an UltraShield unit bolted directly to the floor, as far back as possible. the full sized battery is in the trunk on the right side. i have an AutoPower rollbar. no ballast, save for my rear end! i did not weigh the car without me in it (the rules weigh the car with driver). the front sway bar was connected. there is no rear bar. i hope that helps. s 675MIZU ________________________________ From: steve newby To: steven boortz Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 12:27:49 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] corner weights Well. you got some issues there!! Why the lr is so much less than the rr? Normally the drivers side will be higher than the pass with driver in place. but the LF 100 lbs higher, and LR 25 # LIGHTER? #1 mistake made here is did the weights get taken with the sway bar attatched? a preload on the bars will give you wonky weights every time. you want to try and get the diagonals % as close to even Left-Right as possible front to rear bias on a side is nowhere near as important as the diagonals, Ideally you would have 25% on each wheel, but that almost never happens. Unless you've deliberatly set up for a predominantly left hand turn track? I cant explain the LF being so high, the LR being lower can be partially explained by rear mounted Batt. However driver weight on the roadster is primarily behind the balance point (look at where your butt sits) so you should see a little less gain on the front as the drivers rear when you get in the car. The difference in diagonal weight % will make the car turn in different from left to right --- On Wed, 3/17/10, steven boortz wrote: >From: steven boortz >Subject: [Roadsters] corner weights >To: "roadsters" >Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 11:12 AM > > >hi everyone >i was at the track last weekend (California Speedway), and had the opportunity to weigh my car finally, with the following results (with me in it, and about 1/2 tank of gas): > >LF: 592 RF: 494 > >LR: 476 RR: 491. > >total 2053. i'm about 200 with my helmet. > >s >675MIZU >________________________________________ >Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $16.00 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/csp541983rx7 at yahoo.com From escanlon at wa-net.com Wed Mar 17 13:09:20 2010 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:09:20 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] corner weights References: <518516.70085.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sit further back, like on the package shelf, and use those blocks of wood like the kid in Temple of Doom.... that should help just a tad...... the blocks of wood would only be a pound or two. (Not influenced by Pete Peters...) > hi everyone > i was at the track last weekend (California Speedway), and had the > opportunity to weigh my car finally, with the following results (with me > in it, and about 1/2 tank of gas): > > LF: 592 RF: 494 > > LR: 476 RR: 491. > > total 2053. i'm about 200 with my helmet. > > s > 675MIZU From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Mar 17 14:24:49 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:24:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] OT - Toyota Simulator In-Reply-To: <34C83B0F0DD54ABEA2CF608783F8B544@MrComputerOld> Message-ID: <329915039.16692961268861089013.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> OT - Toyota Simulator http://www.toyotasimulator.com/ From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Wed Mar 17 14:53:52 2010 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:53:52 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 10 Year anniversary of Roadster-dom (in my case Roadster-dumb?) Message-ID: So today is my 10 year anniversary of roadster ownership. Yep, you should have seen the face of the Z-car restorer (it was his shop "truck") when he went to fill out the paperwork and had to put "Fergus O'Farrell bought a car from me on St Paddy's Day". Haired out interior to start with, (some would stay "still is" !) but mechanically much better than I knew how to check out. Only been off the road for 2 lengthy spells: the first (9 months) for an alternator conversion that turned into a engine compartment wiring harness replacement as well, and this one I am in at the moment, (3 months, with Xmas in the middle) which is the front suspension rebuild. Thanks much to all contributors, whose patience I have tested, and long-distance diagnostic skills I have relied heavily upon for quite some time. Too numerous to mention, and lists are only good for excluding those that my mind has forgotten. But put it this way, if you have ever read list-advice on anything electrical, take my word for it that that person fielded probing questions and lists of seemingly interlinked symptoms on my car, most to the point of exhaustion. (the usual suspects: Pat Horne, John Sandhoff, ad infinitum electron escapere, or however you'd say that in Latin) Of special note is Alvin for keeping up the motivation with great pictures, and more recently Michael Spreadbury / Spriso with motivating all of us to "clean up the clutter" with his amazing work. And a special thanks to Victor Laury, for his assistance not only under the hood but at a certain point along the road when better judgement in terrain mapping vs speed control was temporarily in short supply. I stay within my roadster "budget" (self imposed) by stocking up on parts I'll need and storing them away. My recent downtime to rebuild the front suspension included boxed parts that were over 4-1/2 years old. (a set of stainless brake flex lines and end fittings, with parts list provided by Mark Sedlack) On my most recent backroads rally, a thought came to mind, "I wonder how good she'd handle if all the parts that are in the toolbox were actually on the car?" thanks to all. The ride is wonderful but the folks met along the way are the best. Still on the PO -installed clutch, so the stories and queries will continue. And, of course, the delusions of grandeur concerning project time, including -1/2 roadster trailers, foam lined, filled with beer, -what kinda mpg would you get from an SD-22 motored roadster, and why not supercharge it? -that hard tonneau cover that I have made so many sketches C'ya on the road, Fergus O 69 2000 Los Alamitos, CA From andycost at embarqmail.com Wed Mar 17 19:15:14 2010 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:15:14 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] corner weights In-Reply-To: <518516.70085.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Bucephalus 454 467 393 388 From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Wed Mar 17 20:51:41 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:51:41 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Battery Retainer Message-ID: Anyone out there have a top battery retainer 10+3/8 x 6+7/8 approx Thx Peter From gsglasgow at comcast.net Wed Mar 17 22:43:14 2010 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:43:14 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] corner weights In-Reply-To: <518516.70085.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <518516.70085.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000c01cac65d$e79fd3f0$b6df7bd0$@net> If you took the weights on a typical set of scales in Tech, I wouldn't put too much stock in them. Total weight, sure, but to get accurate corner weights, the scales really need to be on a *very* flat surface like a reference plate. Fractions of an inch difference in height can make a big difference in the measured weights. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of steven boortz Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 11:13 AM To: roadsters Subject: [Roadsters] corner weights hi everyone i was at the track last weekend (California Speedway), and had the opportunity to weigh my car finally, with the following results (with me in it, and about 1/2 tank of gas): LF: 592 RF: 494 LR: 476 RR: 491. total 2053. i'm about 200 with my helmet. s 675MIZU ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gsglasgow at comcast.net From keithddowning at yahoo.com Thu Mar 18 17:07:03 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Might as well... Smart upgrades while the engine and trans are out? Message-ID: <878779.50737.qm@web83305.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> '68 U-20 I just pulled my engine and trans in order to have the 5th gear neutral issue addressed. What are some smart upgrades to make while they are out of the car? I'll be gettng the EI Dizzy from East Coast Roadsters (doesn't require the engine out). I'm going to address the "death rattle" (upper timing chain tensioner). The motor mounts look to be in decent condition, but I may change those anyway. I've already put in an Aluminum 3 core radiator with a 14" electric fan. I don't have a ton of money and I'm not thinking of an engine swap right now. Thanks for the input. Keith Downing From stebharvey at ameritech.net Thu Mar 18 17:11:26 2010 From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:11:26 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Dizzy question Message-ID: <001501cac6f8$b829d9e0$287d8da0$@net> Group, I don't have a dizzy setup on my two roadster's and the new 68 with the L18 engine does. My question is, doesn't an electronic ignition need the vacuum line attached? Thanks Steve Milwaukee From joek at camberconstruction.com Thu Mar 18 18:22:02 2010 From: joek at camberconstruction.com (Joe Kinstle) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:22:02 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Might as well... Smart upgrades while the engine and trans are out? In-Reply-To: <878779.50737.qm@web83305.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <878779.50737.qm@web83305.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0FF8AA8B69B64C6288242DC19B33C862@lapjoek> You could get the flywheel lightened for less than $100 I think. Not a bad time to put a gear reduction starter in, if you don't already have one. Also, it's much easier to do any engine bay cleanup with the motor out. Joe Kinstle '69 2L BLK SRL -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Keith Downing Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 5:07 PM To: Datsun E-Mail List Subject: [Roadsters] Might as well... Smart upgrades while the engine and trans are out? '68 U-20 I just pulled my engine and trans in order to have the 5th gear neutral issue addressed. What are some smart upgrades to make while they are out of the car? I'll be gettng the EI Dizzy from East Coast Roadsters (doesn't require the engine out). I'm going to address the "death rattle" (upper timing chain tensioner). The motor mounts look to be in decent condition, but I may change those anyway. I've already put in an Aluminum 3 core radiator with a 14" electric fan. I don't have a ton of money and I'm not thinking of an engine swap right now. Thanks for the input. Keith Downing ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/joek at camberconstructi on.com From pat at hornesystemstx.com Thu Mar 18 18:34:04 2010 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:34:04 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Might as well... Smart upgrades while the engine and trans are out? In-Reply-To: <878779.50737.qm@web83305.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <878779.50737.qm@web83305.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4BA2D48C.5090406@hornesystemstx.com> I'd pull the pan and check the bearings. Wouldn't hurt to check the oil pump too. If your rear seal is leaking, replace it. Front seals are cheap insurance. Freshen up the engine compartment if you have time. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Keith Downing, On 3/18/2010 7:07 PM: > '68 U-20 > > I just pulled my engine and trans in order to have the 5th gear > neutral issue addressed. What are some smart upgrades to make while they are > out of the car? > > I'll be gettng the EI Dizzy from East Coast Roadsters > (doesn't require the engine out). I'm going to address the "death rattle" > (upper timing chain tensioner). The motor mounts look to be in decent > condition, but I may change those anyway. I've already put in an Aluminum 3 > core radiator with a 14" electric fan. > > I don't have a ton of money and I'm > not thinking of an engine swap right now. > > Thanks for the input. > > Keith > Downing > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/pat at hornesystemstx.com > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Thu Mar 18 18:52:43 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:52:43 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Might as well... Smart upgrades while the engine and trans are out? In-Reply-To: <4BA2D48C.5090406@hornesystemstx.com> References: <878779.50737.qm@web83305.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, <4BA2D48C.5090406@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: Having done something similar Coming from a 70 redo so somethings may be different. Definitely freshen up engine compartment, things like the water bottle, radiator mount bars, air dam, rear tranny mount bracket, drive shaft and u joint, diff, horns, grill backing plate,. Use aluminum foil to mask areas - Generally clean and degrease front suspension, check zerks, clean and grease Check compression plate, might as well replace the clutch, check throwout bearing, definitely what ever seals you can get to. Get urethane bushings for the front sway bar. Replace ANY hoses that cannot be easily accessible when engine is in. on the 70 there are two little 2-3 inch hoses that require removing the intake manifold to replace. Replace the throttle cable, install a 2nd hood release, make sure all grounds are SOLID, install upgraded alt if appropriate rebuild water pump ?? shrink tube exposed unsightly joins check on the 5th gear - have it welded?? For me I figure that while I am there, get it done, get it solid and hopefully never have to do it again. Cheers Peter > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:07:03 -0700 > From: keithddowning at yahoo.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Might as well... Smart upgrades while the engine and trans are out? > > '68 U-20 > > I just pulled my engine and trans in order to have the 5th gear > neutral issue addressed. What are some smart upgrades to make while they are > out of the car? > > I'll be gettng the EI Dizzy from East Coast Roadsters > (doesn't require the engine out). I'm going to address the "death rattle" > (upper timing chain tensioner). The motor mounts look to be in decent > condition, but I may change those anyway. I've already put in an Aluminum 3 > core radiator with a 14" electric fan. > > I don't have a ton of money and I'm > not thinking of an engine swap right now. > > Thanks for the input. > > Keith > Downing > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/granvillecomputing at hot mail.com From aultgc at att.net Thu Mar 18 20:35:21 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:35:21 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Might as well... Smart upgrades while the engine and trans are out? References: <878779.50737.qm@web83305.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5B50F3862DD346E180EBFFEB55990DCF@gaxp1> Keith, I think I will agitate the List by responding to your note having read the several responses you received so far. I have a '66 1600 which I bought from the original owner in July, 1971. I put a 1969 U20 motor into it in 1972. The motor is basically stock. 1. Lightening the flywheel will improve acceleration slightly. Do you need that for the way you drive? 2. I cannot for the life of me figure out why anyone driving a stock, street U20 would spend the money to put a gear reduction starter into the car. I have a stock U20 starter in mine, and it has started my car reliably in temperatures ranging from -15F (overnight soak) to 100F for many years. A racer in Ohio said the gear reduction starter is needed to crank their high-compression race-prepared 1600. OK, I'll buy that, but for a stock motor....??? (Oh, yeah. I now also have a '67-1/2 2000, into which the PO put a new gear reduction starter. I have pulled that out and replaced it with a stock unit, because a stock starter spins the motor faster, and I don't need the increased torque produced by a gear reduction unit..) 3. Pulling the pan and checking the rear main is a good idea, as is freshening the engine compartment in areas you cannot access with the engine/trans in the car. Things like alternator replacement can easily be done with the engine in the car, if you later decide to do so. 4. Replace the clutch and throw-out bearing. A lot of work if you have to do it for no other reason. Also replace hoses which cannot be easily accessed with the engine/trans in the car. (On the low-windshield cars, there is a two-inch hose between the heater control valve and the heater core which is %%$#@$ impossible to replace with the engine in the car.) Others have expressed their opinions. There's mine. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Downing" To: "Datsun E-Mail List" Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 7:07 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Might as well... Smart upgrades while the engine and trans are out? > '68 U-20 > > I just pulled my engine and trans in order to have the 5th gear > neutral issue addressed. What are some smart upgrades to make while they > are > out of the car? > > I'll be gettng the EI Dizzy from East Coast Roadsters > (doesn't require the engine out). I'm going to address the "death rattle" > (upper timing chain tensioner). The motor mounts look to be in decent > condition, but I may change those anyway. I've already put in an Aluminum > 3 > core radiator with a 14" electric fan. > > I don't have a ton of money and I'm > not thinking of an engine swap right now. > > Thanks for the input. > > Keith > Downing > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From chalsted at comcast.net Fri Mar 19 05:24:54 2010 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:24:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] 56k mile steering box on ebay, other items Message-ID: <235260849.3030461269001494227.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I thought I'd mention to the list members that I have a 56k original mile recirculating ball steering box on ebay, nicest used box I've ever come across. just a major rebuild kit for one of these is around $1400 now...this one is plug and play so to speak. also listed some other stuff and I'm trying to run auctions if not every week, every other week. some of it may be pretty hard to come by, last week I sold a pair of NOS doorposts and a day/night mirror for the tall windshield roadsters. probably should have posted to the list about those, I know folks are looking for pieces like that but most folks aren't actively perusing ebay all the time and may well end up missing the rare pieces like that. I've also listed what is probably the last nice top assembly with latches that I will be able to come up with for 68 to 70's.B I'm 672000 if you don't already know. hope you need something and I have it to sell you :-)B I try to run all my auctions to end sunday evenings. Craig From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri Mar 19 09:33:21 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:33:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] 56k mile steering box on ebay, other items In-Reply-To: <235260849.3030461269001494227.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <827064978.17457981269016401890.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> If anyone is interested: Item number:130375289523 http://tinyurl.com/yfkoemb Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: chalsted at comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 5:24:54 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] 56k mile steering box on ebay, other items [snip] I thought I'd mention to the list members that I have a 56k original mile recirculating ball steering box on ebay, nicest used box I've ever come across. just a major rebuild kit for one of these is around $1400 now... this one is plug and play so to speak. Craig From timothybthompson at yahoo.com Fri Mar 19 13:47:58 2010 From: timothybthompson at yahoo.com (Tim Thompson) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:47:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 68 Roadster Windshield Message-ID: <627494.34887.qm@web54409.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Anyone know where I could get a new gasket for a windshield? From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri Mar 19 14:32:30 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:32:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] 68 Roadster Windshield In-Reply-To: <627494.34887.qm@web54409.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1487724614.17596881269034350145.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Roadster vendors: Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Thompson" To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 1:47:58 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] 68 Roadster Windshield Anyone know where I could get a new gasket for a windshield? From 9laser3 at bright.net Fri Mar 19 15:09:21 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:09:21 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Might as well... Smart upgrades while the engine and trans are out? In-Reply-To: <5B50F3862DD346E180EBFFEB55990DCF@gaxp1> References: <878779.50737.qm@web83305.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <5B50F3862DD346E180EBFFEB55990DCF@gaxp1> Message-ID: <007501cac7b0$e0895ab0$a19c1010$@net> -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Gary and Cindy Ault A racer in Ohio said the gear reduction starter is needed to crank their high-compression race-prepared 1600. OK, I'll buy that, but for a stock motor....??? ********************* At Sloan Racing, we have gear reduction starters on both 1600 race roadsters, but these are 12+:1 compression motors designed and built to run from 4000 to 8000 rpms. They don't like to start when cold and they really don't like to idle. Those of us on the crew that drive roadsters, have always used stock U20 starters. The 1600 stock starter leaves a bit to be desired, being an older design and a bit too long to get in and out. The only reason to use a G/R starter with a stock motor is bragging rights? Paul Ohio From jsk977 at optonline.net Fri Mar 19 15:27:30 2010 From: jsk977 at optonline.net (Jerry Krakauer) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:27:30 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Might as well... Smart upgrades while the engine and trans are out? References: <878779.50737.qm@web83305.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <5B50F3862DD346E180EBFFEB55990DCF@gaxp1> <007501cac7b0$e0895ab0$a19c1010$@net> Message-ID: <7FFD9C5649C7418A9434D1437C40EF7B@HP1450> Back in the late 60s my first BSR U20 rebuild used the dome top R16 pistons (fly cut for valve clearance) and a milled head(can't remember how much) for around a 12.5 CR. Couple that with considerable spark advance and it was too much for the stock starter. My cheap fix was to install a toggle switch for the ignition and a separate starter button. The starter did a good job of cranking against the compression alone, so I would hit the starter button, get the engine turning and then hit the ignition switch, usually caught on the first attempt. Guess I was luck that it was always an easy starting engine. P.S The next rebuild the compression was dialed back to 11.7, where it still is today. Jerry Krakauer SRL311 00099 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net> To: "'Gary and Cindy Ault'" ; "'Keith Downing'" ; "'Datsun E-Mail List'" Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Might as well... Smart upgrades while the engine and trans are out? > -----Original Message----- > On Behalf Of Gary and Cindy Ault > > A racer in Ohio said the gear reduction starter is needed to crank their > high-compression race-prepared 1600. OK, I'll buy that, but for a stock > motor....??? > ********************* > > At Sloan Racing, we have gear reduction starters on both 1600 race > roadsters, but these are 12+:1 compression motors designed and built to > run > from 4000 to 8000 rpms. They don't like to start when cold and they > really > don't like to idle. Those of us on the crew that drive roadsters, have > always used stock U20 starters. The 1600 stock starter leaves a bit to be > desired, being an older design and a bit too long to get in and out. The > only reason to use a G/R starter with a stock motor is bragging rights? > > Paul > Ohio > ________________________________________ From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri Mar 19 16:01:48 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:01:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Gear reduction starters In-Reply-To: <345095442.17629961269039626164.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1260195278.17630611269039708826.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> If you have to replace the starter, why not use the G/R starter for easier in/out? Priced almost the same, right? Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net> To: "Gary and Cindy Ault" , "Keith Downing" , "Datsun E-Mail List" Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 3:09:21 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Might as well... Smart upgrades while the engine and trans are out? -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Gary and Cindy Ault A racer in Ohio said the gear reduction starter is needed to crank their high-compression race-prepared 1600. OK, I'll buy that, but for a stock motor....??? ********************* At Sloan Racing, we have gear reduction starters on both 1600 race roadsters, but these are 12+:1 compression motors designed and built to run from 4000 to 8000 rpms. They don't like to start when cold and they really don't like to idle. Those of us on the crew that drive roadsters, have always used stock U20 starters. The 1600 stock starter leaves a bit to be desired, being an older design and a bit too long to get in and out. The only reason to use a G/R starter with a stock motor is bragging rights? Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net From barterdude at comcast.net Fri Mar 19 16:08:10 2010 From: barterdude at comcast.net (Barter Dude) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:08:10 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Velocity Stacks Message-ID: I have a friend who recently acquired a 1600 race car and rebuilt the motor. He is looking for 3" velocity stacks for the SU carbs. Any know a source. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member www.WyCROC.org 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1968 SRL311-11977 From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri Mar 19 16:12:53 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Velocity Stacks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1252348461.17634101269040373636.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> APT TWM No experience with either, just remember people mentioning them. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barter Dude" To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 4:08:10 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] Velocity Stacks I have a friend who recently acquired a 1600 race car and rebuilt the motor. He is looking for 3" velocity stacks for the SU carbs. Any know a source. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member www.WyCROC.org 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1968 SRL311-11977 ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net From mark at bradakis.com Fri Mar 19 17:48:00 2010 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:48:00 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Velocity Stacks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BA41B40.8040901@bradakis.com> Barter Dude wrote: > I have a friend who recently acquired a 1600 race car and rebuilt the motor. > He is looking for 3" velocity stacks for the SU carbs. Any know a source. > > > You might check with Ted Schumaker at http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com Like me he's a British car guy but has experience and parts for SUs. Gee, I'm trying to remember why I added myself to this list. Oh well, it doesn't matter, there have been some interesting topics. Maybe I'll stick around for a while. mjb. From mark at bradakis.com Fri Mar 19 18:35:02 2010 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:35:02 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Velocity Stacks In-Reply-To: <008801cac7cc$1d88f090$589ad1b0$@net> References: <4BA41B40.8040901@bradakis.com> <008801cac7cc$1d88f090$589ad1b0$@net> Message-ID: <4BA42646.6090604@bradakis.com> Paul wrote: > Mention OROC (Ohio Roadster Owner Club) and you'll get a good laugh from > Ted. Ted has been supplying us gear reduction starts at Sloan Racing. And > he always has some great Datsun t-shirts in stock. Just be careful if he > starts telling old racing stories. He's even better at it than I am! > > I've been to some of the Vintage Triumph Register conventions which Ted also attended. Once or twice or, well, never mind, he and I have ended up sitting in a bar talking about racing. Ted can talk. And talk. And talk. Of course, I was there too and, oh, never mind. mjb. From poontang188 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 20 05:03:57 2010 From: poontang188 at hotmail.com (Scott Sheeler) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 08:03:57 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Message-ID: Listmeister Steve Allen - can you contact me off list, please Thanks. Scott Sheeler http://thedatsunroadsterbook.com/ From chalsted at comcast.net Sat Mar 20 06:21:12 2010 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 13:21:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] thoughts on what to do about deadbeat ebay bidders on roadster parts In-Reply-To: <1147000662.3304431269090993408.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1367330668.3305121269091272331.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> was curious what folks think should/can be done aboutB non-paying bidders on parts on ebay. I seem to be unable to contact a certain Michael McCasker from Brisbane, Queensland, Australia who has a 67.5 1600...he won the bid on one of my parts but never paid and has not responded to my e-mails...I just tried again at the e-mail address I received when he won the auction and it bounced back...anyone know him or his new e-mail address? maybe he doesn't work for CHEP anymore. this is the second time I've had a non-pay from Australia, never had one anywhere else. what's up with that? he'd told me he was going to get together a list of other parts he needed for his roadster and my 30 days timed out while I waited on that so I can't even file a non-paying bidder complaint with ebay...absolutely NOT a recommended bidder Craig From sevenmary3 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 20 08:47:10 2010 From: sevenmary3 at hotmail.com (Mike Schmike) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:47:10 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Top Frame Straps In-Reply-To: <1367330668.3305121269091272331.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1147000662.3304431269090993408.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>, <1367330668.3305121269091272331.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Anyone with a 1500 3 seater know of a source for those rubber straps that hold the top frame to the back of the car when the frame is folded down. Have the metal hardware, but the rubber is old and cracked (and snapped off on one side). If I can't find NOS or remakes, has anyone made their own with some elastic straps? -Mike Santa Rosa, CA '64 1500. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2 From Walter.Peterson at cox.net Sat Mar 20 09:42:52 2010 From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter Peterson) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 09:42:52 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Velocity Stacks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002901cac84c$62948250$27bd86f0$@Peterson@cox.net> These are an option at 2". http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=36931&SortOrde r=1 Walt Peterson -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Barter Dude Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 4:08 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Velocity Stacks I have a friend who recently acquired a 1600 race car and rebuilt the motor. He is looking for 3" velocity stacks for the SU carbs. Any know a source. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member www.WyCROC.org 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1968 SRL311-11977 ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/walter.peterson at cox.n et From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Sat Mar 20 13:03:03 2010 From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 13:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Intermittent firing Message-ID: <474916.62527.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I also have a 64 110 hp Corvair coupe, well, it is my wife's, but I have to fix it. It runs great, for about 5 miles, then starts bucking and kicking, and dies. I put on rebuilt carbs, did a full tune up, points, plugs, wires, condenser, air filter, etc., etc. No friggin difference. I just had to get towed home. Cost me $100, and I am stymied. Waited 2 hours, starts right up. Any chance it is the coil? Any ideas? I think I replaced everything else, except rhe distributor itself, but.... JimG NJ 69 2K From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sat Mar 20 14:24:02 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:24:02 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] thoughts on what to do about deadbeat ebay bidders on roadster parts In-Reply-To: <1367330668.3305121269091272331.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <8CC968ACC1237F2-3F34-18B21@webmail-m071.sysops.aol.com> Next time don't wait. Linda -----Original Message----- From: chalsted at comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Mar 20, 2010 6:21 am Subject: [Roadsters] thoughts on what to do about deadbeat ebay bidders on roadster parts was curious what folks think should/can be done aboutB non-paying bidders on parts on ebay. I seem to be unable to contact a certain Michael McCasker from Brisbane, Queensland, Australia who has a 67.5 1600...he won the bid on one of my parts but never paid and has not responded to my e-mails...I just tried again at the e-mail address I received when he won the auction and it bounced back...anyone know him or his new e-mail address? maybe he doesn't work for CHEP anymore. this is the second time I've had a non-pay from Australia, never had one anywhere else. what's up with that? he'd told me he was going to get together a list of other parts he needed for his roadster and my 30 days timed out while I waited on that so I can't even file a non-paying bidder complaint with ebay...absolutely NOT a recommended bidder Craig ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From aultgc at att.net Sat Mar 20 15:17:40 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:17:40 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] thoughts on what to do about deadbeat ebay bidders on roadster parts References: <1367330668.3305121269091272331.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <52EB7EE52829428BA4F9833474A60AF1@gaxp1> Craig, Post everything you know about this guy to the list, and to 311s.org, so others know to avoid him. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 8:21 AM Subject: [Roadsters] thoughts on what to do about deadbeat ebay bidders on roadster parts > was curious what folks think should/can be done aboutB non-paying bidders > on > parts on ebay. I seem to be unable to contact a certain Michael McCasker > from > Brisbane, Queensland, Australia who has a 67.5 1600...he won the bid on > one of > my parts but never paid and has not responded to my e-mails...I just tried > again at the e-mail address I received when he won the auction and it > bounced > back...anyone know him or his new e-mail address? maybe he doesn't work > for > CHEP anymore. this is the second time I've had a non-pay from Australia, > never > had one anywhere else. what's up with that? he'd told me he was going to > get > together a list of other parts he needed for his roadster and my 30 days > timed > out while I waited on that so I can't even file a non-paying bidder > complaint > with ebay...absolutely NOT a recommended bidder > > Craig > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From tputland at charter.net Sat Mar 20 15:58:20 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:58:20 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] thoughts on what to do about deadbeat ebay bidders on roadster parts In-Reply-To: <52EB7EE52829428BA4F9833474A60AF1@gaxp1> Message-ID: <20100320185820.EDGBB.922095.root@mp14> As I plan to start selling on ebay again, I say AMEN to what Gary said!! Tim ---- Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: ============= Craig, Post everything you know about this guy to the list, and to 311s.org, so others know to avoid him. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 8:21 AM Subject: [Roadsters] thoughts on what to do about deadbeat ebay bidders on roadster parts > was curious what folks think should/can be done aboutB non-paying bidders > on > parts on ebay. I seem to be unable to contact a certain Michael McCasker > from > Brisbane, Queensland, Australia who has a 67.5 1600...he won the bid on > one of > my parts but never paid and has not responded to my e-mails...I just tried > again at the e-mail address I received when he won the auction and it > bounced > back...anyone know him or his new e-mail address? maybe he doesn't work > for > CHEP anymore. this is the second time I've had a non-pay from Australia, > never > had one anywhere else. what's up with that? he'd told me he was going to > get > together a list of other parts he needed for his roadster and my 30 days > timed > out while I waited on that so I can't even file a non-paying bidder > complaint > with ebay...absolutely NOT a recommended bidder > > Craig > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From 9laser3 at bright.net Sat Mar 20 18:16:30 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 21:16:30 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] OT; Corvair questions Message-ID: <005801cac894$240d8020$6c288060$@net> Sorry but I lost Jim's email. Below is an answer for his Corvair problems. Paul From: walt matenkosky [mailto:wmatenkosky at hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 6:51 PM To: Paul Kort Subject: RE: Corvair questions Jim: As we say on the Datsun 510 list, "If you think its electrical, its fuel, and if you think its fuel, its electrical" I believe you have a fuel problem, strangely similar to one I have had. The running symptoms suggest that it is running lean before it quits. My '62 Greenbrier did the same thing. It always ran fine at low speed as when running around in town, and it would be fine for a few minutes at highway speed, then it would lose power, misfire and quit. However, Let it sit a while and it would be OK as before.. You could have a bad fuel pump diaphram, as they don't hold up well to todays fuel. If you haven't changed it, get one from Cal Clark. There is a short piece of rubber hose connecting the body hard line to the engine. If that hose has grown old and cracked, or if the clamps are loose, it could be drawing in air. If you pull air into the line you will have foam in the carbs. At low speed it doesn't matter, but at sustained high speed you will run lean, lose power and backfire, then stall. My problem, after doing the previous steps, turned out to be the original hose which connects the body hard line to the fuel pickup in the tank. It was leaking air into the fuel line, causing the symptoms noted above. Oh, I also swapped coils, points etc. and it made no difference. Good luck Walt in WPA '62 Greenbrier Deluxe '71 Datsun 510 > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Gammon > Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 4:03 PM > To: Datsun roadster > Subject: [Roadsters] Intermittent firing > > I also have a 64 110 hp Corvair coupe, well, it is my wife's, but I have to > fix it. > > It runs great, for about 5 miles, then starts bucking and kicking, and dies. > I > put on rebuilt carbs, did a full tune up, points, plugs, wires, condenser, > air > filter, etc., etc. > > No friggin difference. I just had to get towed home. Cost me $100, and I am > stymied. > > Waited 2 hours, starts right up. > > Any chance it is the coil? Any ideas? I think I replaced everything else, > except rhe distributor itself, but.... > > JimG NJ 69 2K From Pat at HORNESYSTEMSTX.COM Sat Mar 20 18:51:52 2010 From: Pat at HORNESYSTEMSTX.COM (Pat at HORNESYSTEMSTX.COM) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:51:52 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT; Corvair questions Message-ID: <20100320185152.997a8624c2b4dae4e01298000bf07581.b8f507ad5c.wbe@email.secureserver.net> From Pat at HORNESYSTEMSTX.COM Sat Mar 20 19:15:13 2010 From: Pat at HORNESYSTEMSTX.COM (Pat at HORNESYSTEMSTX.COM) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:15:13 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT; Corvair questions Message-ID: <20100320191513.997a8624c2b4dae4e01298000bf07581.57dc58c472.wbe@email.secureserver.net> From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Sat Mar 20 19:39:41 2010 From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Corvair problem Message-ID: <122903.97980.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Thanks to all who recommended solutions It seems it is the fuel pump, the fuel hose, the fuel pickup strainer, the coil or the distributor wire is the problem, I'll proceed with various checks. Thanks! Jim From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Sun Mar 21 00:45:56 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:45:56 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Vinegar Message-ID: And I thought it was only to flavor english fish & chips It does a great job of removing rust as well - i guess you all know this, but it was a revelation to me. Peter From stebharvey at ameritech.net Sun Mar 21 03:08:20 2010 From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 05:08:20 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] To vent or not to vent Message-ID: <000001cac8de$6f86f190$4e94d4b0$@net> Group, I installed an original gas tank on my 68 L18 project car. The tank doesn't have a return line on it, just the feeder line and an overflow tube from the filler neck back to the tank. I installed a locking gas cap, added 2 gallons of fuel and started the engine. It ran for a few minutes and then died and will not start again. I'm wondering if the keyed gas cap is the problem in that it may not be vented and causing a fuel flow problem. If the weather warms up again and I can get the car outside I'll try starting it without the cap installed. I did find another keyed cap that states that it's a vented cap. If the problem is indeed caused by lack of venting I'll switch out the caps. Does this sound like I'm on the right track? Steve Milwaukee From eddietude at socal.rr.com Sun Mar 21 06:27:41 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 06:27:41 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] To vent or not to vent In-Reply-To: <000001cac8de$6f86f190$4e94d4b0$@net> References: <000001cac8de$6f86f190$4e94d4b0$@net> Message-ID: <4BA61ECD.6050409@socal.rr.com> A non-vented system would eventually cause the car to die from fuel starvation... ie, the fuel pump wouldn't be able to overcome the back pressure that would build up in the tank. That being said, I seriously doubt that would happen in 5 minutes. The way to check though is what you described. try running the car without a cap on it and see what happens. Is it possible the tank you installed had crud in it? If so, then what's more likely is that the crud came loose, and plugged up your fuel filters in that first 5 minutes.. Hope that helps! Eddie Steve Harvey wrote: > Group, > > > > I installed an original gas tank on my 68 L18 project car. The tank doesn't > have a return line on it, just the feeder line and an overflow tube from the > filler neck back to the tank. I installed a locking gas cap, added 2 gallons > of fuel and started the engine. It ran for a few minutes and then died and > will not start again. I'm wondering if the keyed gas cap is the problem in > that it may not be vented and causing a fuel flow problem. If the weather > warms up again and I can get the car outside I'll try starting it without > the cap installed. I did find another keyed cap that states that it's a > vented cap. If the problem is indeed caused by lack of venting I'll switch > out the caps. Does this sound like I'm on the right track? > > > > Steve > > Milwaukee > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From sportsix63 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 21 06:40:41 2010 From: sportsix63 at yahoo.com (jim williams) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 06:40:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] E Bay Seller Message-ID: <236278.87185.qm@web30607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Posting names will help . But, they change their names. A guy in New Zealand sold me a car. The information about the car was an out right lie. I tried everything from lawyers to E-Bay with no results. He just changed his E-Bay information and kept going. Jim Williams Lewisburg, West Virginia From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Sun Mar 21 06:54:24 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 06:54:24 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Choke Cables Message-ID: Has anyone successfully 'recabled' a choke cable. The ends of mine are too frayed to get through the holes. Peter(Eliza) From keithddowning at yahoo.com Sun Mar 21 07:54:28 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:54:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Choke Cables In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <562123.24776.qm@web83305.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> There's an artical on it in 311s.org PMWIKI under Engine. ________________________________ From: peter harrison To: Joe Noe ; datsun Sent: Sun, March 21, 2010 6:54:24 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Choke Cables Has anyone successfully 'recabled' a choke cable. The ends of mine are too frayed to get through the holes. Peter(Eliza) ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.com From Pat at HORNESYSTEMSTX.COM Sun Mar 21 09:08:04 2010 From: Pat at HORNESYSTEMSTX.COM (Pat at HORNESYSTEMSTX.COM) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 09:08:04 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] To vent or not to vent Message-ID: <20100321090804.997a8624c2b4dae4e01298000bf07581.4af7be04bd.wbe@email.secureserver.net> /zrt9gN: Permission denied From stebharvey at ameritech.net Sun Mar 21 15:10:31 2010 From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 17:10:31 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Another piece of the puzzle Message-ID: <000101cac943$52e658e0$f8b30aa0$@net> Group, I stopped at the local O'Reilly's parts store today with my 70 1600. The Puerto Rico born clerk who's help me in the past got all excited to see a real roadster here in Wisconsin. He told me that roadster and 510 drag racing is huge in Puerto Rico which explains why my new 68 L18 is setup the way it is. Steve Milwaukee From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net Sun Mar 21 22:02:13 2010 From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:02:13 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [Roadsters] Choke Cables Message-ID: <20746067.1269234133180.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I recabled my accelerator cable with a wire cable I picked up at the motorcycle shop. I think it was about $5.00, considerably cheaper than replacing the entire cable. It had the bead on the near end. I pulled the old cable, inserted the new, and had it running again in less than 10 minutes. Good luck, Dewey -----Original Message----- >From: peter harrison >Sent: Mar 21, 2010 7:54 AM >To: Joe Noe , datsun >Subject: [Roadsters] Choke Cables > >Has anyone successfully 'recabled' a choke cable. The ends of mine are too >frayed to get through the holes. > >Peter(Eliza) >________________________________________ >Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $16.00 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/hahlbohmd at earthlink.net From roadster at astound.net Sun Mar 21 23:07:55 2010 From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:07:55 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Choke Cables In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D1F3521-2809-48E9-B647-E027D7FAF761@astound.net> I did it with cable bought at a bicycle shop. Fairly easy to do, and works well. Fred On Mar 21, 2010, at 6:54 AM, peter harrison wrote: > Has anyone successfully 'recabled' a choke cable. The ends of mine > are too > frayed to get through the holes. > > Peter(Eliza) From jeffzster at yahoo.com Sun Mar 21 23:39:17 2010 From: jeffzster at yahoo.com (Jeff Torres) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:39:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang Registration Update Message-ID: <958724.13566.qm@web110413.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hello Everyone! The Solvang Datsun Roadster Classic website is now updated with our current list of attendees! Check it out and see who's coming this year. Also, alot of people have been asking if we will have hats this year...Yes we will! They will be Flex-Fit ball caps with a current year logo design on them. We will have them at the show if your interested one! Thanks and keep those registrations coming. Jeff T. From alvingogi at hotmail.com Mon Mar 22 21:12:22 2010 From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 04:12:22 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] June 5/6 at Buttonwillow CHEAP!!! Message-ID: NCRC is putting on a 2-day event at Buttonwillow June 5 and 6It is only $99/ day!We will be there for both days, camping out.Lots of room to register http://www.ncracing.org/events.php Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:032010_3 From andycost at embarqmail.com Tue Mar 23 03:55:40 2010 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 05:55:40 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Happy/Sad Day Message-ID: <6BAFBE4AC4224530872109B0CDD3E11F@pentd> Bucephalus is sold. I'm sad to see him go. I've spent so much time building the car. It is an investment of my heart and soul as much as my money. It would have been nice to see the rest of my plans for the car completed. I will be finishing the new motor and installing the new supercharger on it before delivering it to the new owner in Houston. My dad, brother, and I have owned Roadsters continuously since 1991. This is the last one. I'll probably still hang around the Roadster list and bulletin boards. Maybe one day I'll buy another. http://www.autocrosspictures.net/ERAutocross082309/ERautocross082309_1/index .html Sincerely, Andy From fairlady66 at gmail.com Tue Mar 23 05:20:26 2010 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 05:20:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Celebration Time Message-ID: 18 more days to the SoCalROC 10 Year Anniversary Celebration. Hope to see you all there More info: www.socalroc.net -- Our Classic Rides: '66 1600 '70 521 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Datsun, then you are lucky enough. From tputland at charter.net Tue Mar 23 06:15:51 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 6:15:51 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] inner & outer front fender "pad (?)" Message-ID: <20100323091551.U7EN0.1051470.root@mp15> Is (was) there some sort of "padding" between the outer and inner front fenders where the fender bolts on, right in front of the A-pillar? It appears that there once was something there. Was it that hair pad stuff? If there is supposed to be something there, what is a good replacement? Neoprene? Thanks Tim From chalsted at comcast.net Tue Mar 23 08:46:11 2010 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:46:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] SRL311-00006 for sale In-Reply-To: <1531843335.4079071269358840832.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1264221263.4081981269359171247.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> thought I'd offer a deal out... the car: 38k original miles on the chassis one very small crack in the dash, my recollection is less than an inch long body on the car has been damaged in the rear and if you wanted to rebuild the car with the original body you'd need to replace one or both rear quarters and the back panel. frame is fine has it's headrests, seats good but have been reupholstered with cloth inserts has the original license trim comes with NOS rear bumper comes with NOS rear taillights good visors good top assembly good grille not matching number engine, just comes with a good used rebuildable U20 SU engine and 5spd I have a very nice body in LA area that comes with it, it's a roller if you want to redo the original body instead, can negotiate a bit on price. I have a nice set of front fenders I'd include if you wanted to go that route, otherwise I'll keep the front fenders if you go with the body on the west coast car is in Virginia not too many single digit serial number 67.5 2000's around.... ;-) price $10k have available at additional cost 2 different 67.5 engines. one is fresh rebuild, very pretty SU engine currently on an engine stand down in the garage other is a Solex engine, probably around 35k miles on a rebuild, comp pan, no carbs at the moment but I can sell with a correct early set fresh refurbished when Dan gets them done.B B would give a credit for the used non-67.5 engine if you wanted to move up to one of these. a title could be applied for if one wanted to build a clone out of the second mentioned engine, I do know the number of the car it came out of and have all rights of ownership to that number car but body/chassis no longer exist. was offered $3500 for this engine if I provided a title to go with it, have not applied for one yet. plan was to go thru Titles International, would have been $130 or so last year but I just checked and now they get $275 please contact me offlist if interested Craig From ronnie.day at gmail.com Tue Mar 23 10:31:26 2010 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 12:31:26 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Auto Welding DVD Message-ID: <2faaebf81003231031v528f1c12t3a255cc552f2b642@mail.gmail.com> Some time ago I received a Hot Rod DVD entitled "Complete Bodywork & Sheetmetal Prep" as a freebie for a subscription This DVD is part of the "Dream-Build-Drives" series (http://tinyurl.com/yfedom2). I couple days ago I started watching it and am very impressed. This guy is disassembling a '60s Chevelle convertible for restoration and the techniques and methods he uses are applicable to any car and most metalwork and welding projects. The video quality is excellent and the "How to..." is very easy to see, understand and is thoroughly presented, something the DIY auto programs on Spike and Speed often rush. The DVD I have is 65003D, the first in the series. Highly recommended -- Ron From ctd0046 at lausd.net Tue Mar 23 13:11:24 2010 From: ctd0046 at lausd.net (Duong, Cody) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:11:24 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 4, Issue 98 References: Message-ID: To Alvin, Your car is very impressive, do you know anybody have a car similar to your for sale??????? please contact me at ctd0046 at lausd.net thanks for your help [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] From graemes at internode.on.net Tue Mar 23 17:14:18 2010 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:44:18 +1030 Subject: [Roadsters] inner & outer front fender "pad (?)" In-Reply-To: <20100323091551.U7EN0.1051470.root@mp15> References: <20100323091551.U7EN0.1051470.root@mp15> Message-ID: <0DF18B8E06DC4624ACB65AF015633211@desktop> "Is (was) there some sort of "padding" between the outer and inner front fenders where the fender bolts on, right in front of the A-pillar? It appears that there once was something there. Was it that hair pad stuff? If there is supposed to be something there, what is a good replacement? Neoprene? Tim" ________________________________________ Hi Tim, usually there is a moisture barrier installed at such locations. IIRC there was a bitumen type seal on mine. Nowadays I would recommend a paintable Automotive Seam Sealer. Run a good size bead the full length of the panel join and bolt it up. Use plenty of it so it oozes out from the joint thus ensuring the two panels are adequately sealed. You can clean up the excess with the recommended product or just leave it there to skin over. Then you can paint over it if you wish. One word of advice. Make sure the mating surfaces are RUST FREE and have been properly prepared and painted prior to re-assembly. This is to ensure that the mating surfaces don't corrode under the seam sealer. This is where a lot of car manufacturers create a rust time bomb! From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Tue Mar 23 23:07:13 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:07:13 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] How Much Is Your Car Worth - Just for Grins Message-ID: PO paid 2.5 for the car and put another 25K into it Me - paint 2700, engine 1300, suspension (including powder coating) 400, refitting and powdercoating fuel tank 200, 5 speed tranny - 500, starter + alternator 100+, miata seats 15, stereo 500, miscellaneous 500 = 35k = maybe 10K car Just wonder how much the investment in our vehicles balances their worth - dont really care - they are fun - just a perpestive question - grins From wchmch at aol.com Wed Mar 24 03:55:29 2010 From: wchmch at aol.com (wchmch at aol.com) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 06:55:29 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] How Much Is Your Car Worth - Just for Grins In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CC9957A6B54099-17B0-9977@Webmail-m112.sysops.aol.com> Market value - Spent quite a few $$ having my car restored - it's showroom, so it's worth, what ...$10k? What is a showroom Roadster worth on the market? $15k? I really have no idea. Sentimental value - My Dad bought the car new, and I learned to drive on it. It's for sale to my daughter for $1, when she gets a little older and has a place to park it. But .. it's just a car, let's not be silly. So, for everyone except my daughter: first $1 million takes it. From tputland at charter.net Wed Mar 24 03:55:56 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 3:55:56 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] How Much Is Your Car Worth - Just for Grins In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20100324065556.J8K4O.3495098.root@mp06> Considering that my Dad bought my 70 1600 new and I am a true second owner (still trying to figure out why there are four years of registration papers missing from my childhood) , then I would say, for me, the money being spent in the restoration does not matter and is going to be well worth it. Tim ---- peter harrison wrote: ============= PO paid 2.5 for the car and put another 25K into it Me - paint 2700, engine 1300, suspension (including powder coating) 400, refitting and powdercoating fuel tank 200, 5 speed tranny - 500, starter + alternator 100+, miata seats 15, stereo 500, miscellaneous 500 = 35k = maybe 10K car Just wonder how much the investment in our vehicles balances their worth - dont really care - they are fun - just a perpestive question - grins ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From tputland at charter.net Wed Mar 24 04:30:30 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 7:30:30 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] How Much Is Your Car Worth - Just for Grins In-Reply-To: <8CC9957A6B54099-17B0-9977@Webmail-m112.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20100324073030.B6DNF.3495965.root@mp06> Funny, I bought my car from my Dad for $1 ! ---- wchmch at aol.com wrote: ============= Market value - Spent quite a few $$ having my car restored - it's showroom, so it's worth, what ...$10k? What is a showroom Roadster worth on the market? $15k? I really have no idea. Sentimental value - My Dad bought the car new, and I learned to drive on it. It's for sale to my daughter for $1, when she gets a little older and has a place to park it. But .. it's just a car, let's not be silly. So, for everyone except my daughter: first $1 million takes it. ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From wchmch at aol.com Wed Mar 24 05:30:02 2010 From: wchmch at aol.com (wchmch at aol.com) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:30:02 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] How Much Is Your Car Worth - Just for Grins In-Reply-To: <20100324073030.B6DNF.3495965.root@mp06> Message-ID: <8CC9964DC405B6F-17B0-A5B8@Webmail-m112.sysops.aol.com> My Dad also sold me his for a dollar - our stories are the same. My Dad bought his car new in Los Angeles in 1969. After the restoration, we laughingly refer to the car as the most expensive $1 car ever made. -----Original Message----- From: Tim To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; granvillecomputing at hotmail.com; wchmch at aol.com Sent: Wed, Mar 24, 2010 7:30 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How Much Is Your Car Worth - Just for Grins Funny, I bought my car from my Dad for $1 ! ---- wchmch at aol.com wrote: ============= Market value - Spent quite a few $$ having my car restored - it's showroom, so it's worth, what ...$10k? What is a showroom Roadster worth on the market? $15k? I really have no idea. Sentimental value - My Dad bought the car new, and I learned to drive on it. It's for sale to my daughter for $1, when she gets a little older and has a place to park it. But .. it's just a car, let's not be silly. So, for everyone except my daughter: first $1 million takes it. ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Wed Mar 24 05:50:18 2010 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 07:50:18 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 1500 FS in Weaverville, CA Message-ID: Saw this note posted on another board today, no connection to seller. (and work firewalls prohibit viewing "tinyurl" links. Weaverville is near Santa Cruz.... I think. (or is that Watsonville) Oh, sorry, it is 5 miles north of Hayfork, how could I be so geographically challenged. (actually a bit west of Redding, if that narrows it down) I've been driving by this car in Weaverville for over a year now. Located in a body shop lot. What the heck, doesn't hurt to ask.. $2800. More then a fair price. This car looks solid and complete. Looks like they did a re-spray on it, and it's a nice driver paint job. A day detailing the interior and the engine compartment and she'd look sharp. I talked to Matthew. He says the car runs and drives good and the brakes were recently "gone through." He just moved back from Kentucky to take over "dad's shop" and couldn't believe they had yet to sell the Datsun. He told me it's going on Craigslist tomorrow so if you're interested, you better get on it. It's a good looking ride and the price seems to be right. Just not my cup and the stable is full. Pics; http://tinyurl.com/yjhltjy Lauderdale Motors and Auto Body Repair Matthew 530-623-2442 From poontang188 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 24 05:59:43 2010 From: poontang188 at hotmail.com (Scott Sheeler) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:59:43 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Shameless self-promotion Message-ID: Good morning: Any Owner needing a real nice Owner's manual reprint can find versions for all years - 66-70 - on my eBay "buy iy now" listings. We've used the high-quality scans from The Datsun Roadster Book to print individual manuals for your glove box. The differences from previous versions are these have color covers, white pages, and look like the originals. Canadian Owners will also be able to get theirs from Ross at Sports Imports in a week or so depending on the speed of the postal system. For those not interested, apologies. Scott Sheeler http://thedatsunroadsterbook.com/ From chalsted at comcast.net Wed Mar 24 06:41:53 2010 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:41:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] How Much Is Your Car Worth - Just for Grins In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <175405334.4393881269438113792.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I heard Les tell a prospective customer once that it would cost X amount of money to have his car restored and that when it was done it would probablyB be worth about half of that amount...one roadster I know of that was professionally restored ended up being sold for about a third of what the owner had spent on the restoration. consider it a labor of love, not a moneymaker- the greatest value is in the fun you will have driving it along with your pride of ownership...a restored roadster is a work of art andB you'll have a lot more fun with it than spendingB the same amountB of money on a painting and hanging it on your wall Craig From tputland at charter.net Wed Mar 24 06:42:51 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 6:42:51 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1500 FS in Weaverville, CA In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20100324094251.CIZKV.3503156.root@mp06> That's a 1500? Tim ---- "O'Farrell wrote: ============= Saw this note posted on another board today, no connection to seller. (and work firewalls prohibit viewing "tinyurl" links. Weaverville is near Santa Cruz.... I think. (or is that Watsonville) Oh, sorry, it is 5 miles north of Hayfork, how could I be so geographically challenged. (actually a bit west of Redding, if that narrows it down) I've been driving by this car in Weaverville for over a year now. Located in a body shop lot. What the heck, doesn't hurt to ask.. $2800. More then a fair price. This car looks solid and complete. Looks like they did a re-spray on it, and it's a nice driver paint job. A day detailing the interior and the engine compartment and she'd look sharp. I talked to Matthew. He says the car runs and drives good and the brakes were recently "gone through." He just moved back from Kentucky to take over "dad's shop" and couldn't believe they had yet to sell the Datsun. He told me it's going on Craigslist tomorrow so if you're interested, you better get on it. It's a good looking ride and the price seems to be right. Just not my cup and the stable is full. Pics; http://tinyurl.com/yjhltjy Lauderdale Motors and Auto Body Repair Matthew 530-623-2442 ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From ronnie.day at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 06:43:35 2010 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:43:35 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] How Much Is Your Car Worth - Just for Grins In-Reply-To: <8CC9964DC405B6F-17B0-A5B8@Webmail-m112.sysops.aol.com> References: <20100324073030.B6DNF.3495965.root@mp06> <8CC9964DC405B6F-17B0-A5B8@Webmail-m112.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <2faaebf81003240643q68092e70k944c31af5e09524a@mail.gmail.com> > B My Dad also sold me his for a dollar - our stories are the same. B My Dad > bought his car new in Los Angeles in 1969. > > After the restoration, we laughingly refer to the car as the most expensive $1 > car ever made. > We traded in a '67 Impala 4-door for the '70 2000 we bought new in Fort Worth. IIRC our payments were $63/month. There's been a thread on the 510 list the past few days that started because somebody was offering a perfect NOS late 510 rear bumper with a firm price of $1K. Some people got very upset, but IMO he wasn't forcing anyone to buy it. I wouldn't pay that, but I've got a couple of nice ones already. The bumper's new '70 price was mentioned, so I compared the price of our '70 510 ($2300) then adjusted to 2010 USD, around $14K. Point is, none of our toys are cheap to play with any more. In general the Z-Car has the best parts availability but those parts aren't cheap either. FWIW, Ron From gogineni.alvin at gene.com Wed Mar 24 07:19:15 2010 From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 07:19:15 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1500 FS in Weaverville, CA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: When I saw "weaverville" roadster I immediately remembered!!!!! We passed by this roadster on our way back from an Oregon trip. I stopped to take pictures, and I called it "The Weaverville Roadster" in August 2007, i even took an interior shot: http://rides.webshots.com/album/560154685xAOGym On Mar 24, 2010, at 5:50 AM, O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS) wrote: > Saw this note posted on another board today, no connection to seller. > (and work firewalls prohibit viewing "tinyurl" links. > Weaverville is near Santa Cruz.... I think. (or is that Watsonville) > Oh, sorry, it is 5 miles north of Hayfork, how could I be so > geographically challenged. (actually a bit west of Redding, if that > narrows it down) > > I've been driving by this car in Weaverville for over a > year now. Located in a body shop lot. What the heck, doesn't hurt to > ask.. > > $2800. More then a fair price. This car looks solid and > complete. Looks like they did a re-spray on it, and it's a nice driver > paint job. A day detailing the interior and the engine compartment and > she'd look sharp. > > I talked to Matthew. He says the car runs and drives > good and the brakes were recently "gone through." He just moved back > from Kentucky to take over "dad's shop" and couldn't believe they had > yet to sell the Datsun. He told me it's going on Craigslist tomorrow > so > if you're interested, you better get on it. > > It's a good looking ride and the price seems to be > right. Just not my cup and the stable is full. > > Pics; > http://tinyurl.com/yjhltjy > > Lauderdale Motors and Auto Body Repair > Matthew > 530-623-2442 > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gogineni.alvin at gene.com From turbored at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 07:25:15 2010 From: turbored at gmail.com (XT Drew) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:25:15 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1500 FS in Weaverville, CA In-Reply-To: <20100324094251.CIZKV.3503156.root@mp06> References: <20100324094251.CIZKV.3503156.root@mp06> Message-ID: <05AB2CE7-EEFD-4D14-92E4-9769951B886D@gmail.com> 67.5 1600 On Mar 24, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Tim wrote: > That's a 1500? > > > Tim > > > ---- "O'Farrell wrote: > > ============= > Saw this note posted on another board today, no connection to seller. > (and work firewalls prohibit viewing "tinyurl" links. > Weaverville is near Santa Cruz.... I think. (or is that Watsonville) > Oh, sorry, it is 5 miles north of Hayfork, how could I be so > geographically challenged. (actually a bit west of Redding, if that > narrows it down) > > I've been driving by this car in Weaverville for over a > year now. Located in a body shop lot. What the heck, doesn't hurt to > ask.. > > $2800. More then a fair price. This car looks solid and > complete. Looks like they did a re-spray on it, and it's a nice driver > paint job. A day detailing the interior and the engine compartment and > she'd look sharp. > > I talked to Matthew. He says the car runs and drives > good and the brakes were recently "gone through." He just moved back > from Kentucky to take over "dad's shop" and couldn't believe they had > yet to sell the Datsun. He told me it's going on Craigslist tomorrow so > if you're interested, you better get on it. > > It's a good looking ride and the price seems to be > right. Just not my cup and the stable is full. > > Pics; > http://tinyurl.com/yjhltjy > > Lauderdale Motors and Auto Body Repair > Matthew > 530-623-2442 > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/turbored at gmail.com From chalsted at comcast.net Wed Mar 24 07:31:41 2010 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:31:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] 1500 FS in Weaverville, CA In-Reply-To: <20100324094251.CIZKV.3503156.root@mp06> Message-ID: <415508392.4415651269441101584.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> 67.5 1600 From eddietude at socal.rr.com Wed Mar 24 08:00:09 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:00:09 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] How Much Is Your Car Worth - Just for Grins In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BAA28F9.200@socal.rr.com> Consider this also: A car's "worth" parted out is far higher than as one complete unit. If you tried to buy a new car from the dealer piece by piece, your average car would cost about 5 times or more than what you pay for it as a complete drivable unit. Considering the fact that MOST roadsters out there, (except the one's that have been restored), are in need of a serious overhaul to make them "new" or "close to new" most people spend a lot in parts, especially if they live in a climate that is conducive to rust. Then add to the fact that there were only about 5,000 of both models made each year AND the parts haven't been made in over 40 years... well....certain parts are just more expensive. Body panels for instance. Other parts which are simple to make and/or were on other models Nissan made are considerably cheaper, if you know where to get them. Most engine parts can be purchased from a forklift dealer, and are the exact same parts... especially for the r-16 and H20 motors. Water pump, timing chain, valves, etc... all the same. (Camshaft is different though!) Value also is determined by demand, which in turn is determined by the state of the economy. I'll bet 3 years ago the same car was worth far more than it is today... When I got insurance I wanted full coverage for my roadster in case some numbskull plows into it. They figured it would be $16K to replace the car with one exactly like it. I had done a full frame off restoration, and every single part on that car has been cleaned, repainted or sandblasted, repaired, or replaced. It's basically a brand new car. Fortunately, the insurance company agreed, and I got that level of coverage. The best part is, because of the age of the car, they figure I won't be driving it very often, so the insurance is about $250 a year. Eddie peter harrison wrote: > PO paid 2.5 for the car and put another 25K into it > Me - paint 2700, engine 1300, suspension (including powder coating) 400, > refitting and powdercoating fuel tank 200, 5 speed tranny - 500, starter + > alternator 100+, miata seats 15, stereo 500, miscellaneous 500 > = 35k > = maybe 10K car > Just wonder how much the investment in our vehicles balances their worth - > dont really care - they are fun - just a perpestive question - grins > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Mar 24 08:33:28 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:33:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] 1500 FS in Weaverville, CA In-Reply-To: <20100324094251.CIZKV.3503156.root@mp06> Message-ID: <395761407.19295501269444808330.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Looks like a 67.5 1600 to me. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "Fergus P O'Farrell (AS)" , datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:42:51 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1500 FS in Weaverville, CA That's a 1500? Tim ---- "O'Farrell wrote: ============= Saw this note posted on another board today, no connection to seller. (and work firewalls prohibit viewing "tinyurl" links. Weaverville is near Santa Cruz.... I think. (or is that Watsonville) Oh, sorry, it is 5 miles north of Hayfork, how could I be so geographically challenged. (actually a bit west of Redding, if that narrows it down) I've been driving by this car in Weaverville for over a year now. Located in a body shop lot. What the heck, doesn't hurt to ask.. $2800. More then a fair price. This car looks solid and complete. Looks like they did a re-spray on it, and it's a nice driver paint job. A day detailing the interior and the engine compartment and she'd look sharp. I talked to Matthew. He says the car runs and drives good and the brakes were recently "gone through." He just moved back from Kentucky to take over "dad's shop" and couldn't believe they had yet to sell the Datsun. He told me it's going on Craigslist tomorrow so if you're interested, you better get on it. It's a good looking ride and the price seems to be right. Just not my cup and the stable is full. Pics; http://tinyurl.com/yjhltjy Lauderdale Motors and Auto Body Repair Matthew 530-623-2442 ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.net From andycost at embarqmail.com Wed Mar 24 09:16:14 2010 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (CenturyLink Customer) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:16:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] How Much Is Your Car Worth - Just for Grins In-Reply-To: <4BAA28F9.200@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <1273673147.9516661269447374037.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com> Sold mine this week so I know exactly how much it is worth. Andy From barterdude at comcast.net Wed Mar 24 10:00:45 2010 From: barterdude at comcast.net (Barter Dude) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:00:45 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] How Much Is Your Car Worth - Just for Grins In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <25355A1BFEEC4FE3A54BAAD1D9604CDC@NOTEBOOK> Let's see, I pulled one out of someone's backyard for free, spent a bunch of money on body, paint, interior, top, motor, rims, tires and then traded it off for a car that was appraised (for insurance purposes) at $16,500.00. Guess that's what my car was worth. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member www.WyCROC.org 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1968 SRL311-11977 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of peter harrison Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:07 AM To: datsun Subject: [Roadsters] How Much Is Your Car Worth - Just for Grins PO paid 2.5 for the car and put another 25K into it Me - paint 2700, engine 1300, suspension (including powder coating) 400, refitting and powdercoating fuel tank 200, 5 speed tranny - 500, starter + alternator 100+, miata seats 15, stereo 500, miscellaneous 500 = 35k = maybe 10K car Just wonder how much the investment in our vehicles balances their worth - dont really care - they are fun - just a perpestive question - grins ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/barterdude at comcast.ne t From fairlady66 at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 11:24:28 2010 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:24:28 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] How Much Is Your Car Worth - Just for Grins In-Reply-To: <25355A1BFEEC4FE3A54BAAD1D9604CDC@NOTEBOOK> References: <25355A1BFEEC4FE3A54BAAD1D9604CDC@NOTEBOOK> Message-ID: Well I am sure that my car is worth MUCH more to me then it is to someone else... On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Barter Dude wrote: > Let's see, I pulled one out of someone's backyard for free, spent a bunch > of > money on body, paint, interior, top, motor, rims, tires and then traded it > off for a car that was appraised (for insurance purposes) at $16,500.00. > Guess that's what my car was worth. > > Gary Lasater - Parker CO > founding member www.WyCROC.org > 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) > 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) > 1964 SPL310-01289 > 1968 SRL311-11977 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of peter > harrison > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:07 AM > To: datsun > Subject: [Roadsters] How Much Is Your Car Worth - Just for Grins > > PO paid 2.5 for the car and put another 25K into it > Me - paint 2700, engine 1300, suspension (including powder coating) 400, > refitting and powdercoating fuel tank 200, 5 speed tranny - 500, starter + > alternator 100+, miata seats 15, stereo 500, miscellaneous 500 > = 35k > = maybe 10K car > Just wonder how much the investment in our vehicles balances their worth - > dont really care - they are fun - just a perpestive question - grins > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/barterdude at comcast.ne > t > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/fairlady66 at gmail.com > -- Our Classic Rides: '66 1600 '70 521 510 Wagon in my dreasms Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Datsun, then you are lucky enough. From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com Wed Mar 24 15:52:20 2010 From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:52:20 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] How Much Is Your Car Worth - Just for Grins In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1D4466480D824E30A3C6972340B466CD@D4RK97B1JR> I have a couple of roadsters that I restored "generally" by myself, all mechanicals, body, paint, etc. I haven't had any professional work done on either of them (except inspections and tires). I do have loads of hours invested but a lot less dollars out of pocket. I can honestly say I could get almost exactly what I have "out of pocket" dollars into the cars back from a sale less the hundreds of hours of labor that I, my kids and my friends have put into them. This does not including shop tools of course but there is a fundamental relationship between cars and tools (cars = good excuse to buy tools = good excuse to buy cars = more tools = more cars...) The labor is not only fun, it's satisfying and therapeutic - especially if you drive a desk for 60 hours a week... Driving the cars on a warm summer's day...priceless! Joe -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of peter harrison Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:07 AM To: datsun Subject: [Roadsters] How Much Is Your Car Worth - Just for Grins PO paid 2.5 for the car and put another 25K into it Me - paint 2700, engine 1300, suspension (including powder coating) 400, refitting and powdercoating fuel tank 200, 5 speed tranny - 500, starter + alternator 100+, miata seats 15, stereo 500, miscellaneous 500 = 35k = maybe 10K car Just wonder how much the investment in our vehicles balances their worth - dont really care - they are fun - just a perpestive question - grins ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/jrusso07 at rochester.rr. com From aultgc at att.net Wed Mar 24 18:35:44 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:35:44 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] How Much Is Your Car Worth - Just for Grins References: Message-ID: <302C9B142ACE423B901D898F3329C018@gaxp1> Peter, Intrinsically, it's only worth what someone else is willing to pay for it. You're like me -- my '66 1600/U20 is worth way more than I could realize from selling it. Paid the original owner $725 for it in July, 1971. Have no idea how many thousands of dollars have gone into it since. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter harrison" To: "datsun" Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:07 AM Subject: [Roadsters] How Much Is Your Car Worth - Just for Grins > PO paid 2.5 for the car and put another 25K into it > Me - paint 2700, engine 1300, suspension (including powder coating) 400, > refitting and powdercoating fuel tank 200, 5 speed tranny - 500, starter + > alternator 100+, miata seats 15, stereo 500, miscellaneous 500 > = 35k > = maybe 10K car > Just wonder how much the investment in our vehicles balances their worth - > dont really care - they are fun - just a perpestive question - grins > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From mikecox at mac.com Thu Mar 25 02:41:12 2010 From: mikecox at mac.com (Michael Cox) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:41:12 +0800 Subject: [Roadsters] How Much Is Your Car Worth - Just for Grins In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bought in June 1966: $3500 Rebuilt engine, brakes, body June 1982: $8500 Joy to drive: Priceless Michael David Cox Senior Chemistry Lecturer Singapore American School 40 Woodlands St. 41 Singapore 738547 Republic of Singapore Tel: (65) 6363-3404 email: mikecox at mac.com email: mcox at sas.edu.sg From mikecox at mac.com Thu Mar 25 02:59:16 2010 From: mikecox at mac.com (Michael Cox) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:59:16 +0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Oops, wrong date Message-ID: <34619F94-5528-4AB0-8C27-E5C1FD232252@mac.com> Bought in June 1969: $3500 Rebuilt engine, brakes, body June 1982: $8500 Joy to drive: Priceless Car is Ohio...never imported to Singapore Michael David Cox Senior Chemistry Lecturer Singapore American School 40 Woodlands St. 41 Singapore 738547 Republic of Singapore Tel: (65) 6363-3404 email: mikecox at mac.com email: mcox at sas.edu.sg From keithddowning at yahoo.com Thu Mar 25 09:27:27 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 09:27:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Vertical Mount Radio Message-ID: <791293.57830.qm@web83303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> '68 SRL311 Does anyone have a good solution for a replacement for the vertical mount Toshiba radio? What have you done or seen? My stock unit don't worky no more, and I just got a call back that the fix would cost $230. I appreciate the input. Keith Downing From d_kroninger at hotmail.com Thu Mar 25 10:04:33 2010 From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:04:33 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Vertical Mount Radio In-Reply-To: <791293.57830.qm@web83303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <791293.57830.qm@web83303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Keith Talk to Keith Williams. His Dad rebuilt mine 68s radio for significantly less than that (well under $100, but charges may have changed). Then I got a Redi-rad radio adapter from Brew city in Milwaukee. It is a transmitter that plugs into the antenna input and allows you to play an ipod or portable cd player through your radio. Pretty cheap and took my about 30 mins to install, and I am not an expert at all. I did a write up on www.311s.org in the product reviews section. Dan > Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 09:27:27 -0700 > From: keithddowning at yahoo.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Vertical Mount Radio > > '68 SRL311 > > Does anyone have a good solution for a replacement for the > vertical mount Toshiba radio? What have you done or seen? My stock unit > don't worky no more, and I just got a call back that the fix would cost $230. > I appreciate the input. > > Keith Downing _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:032010_1 From datsun_roadster at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 25 13:46:42 2010 From: datsun_roadster at sbcglobal.net (datsun_roadster at sbcglobal.net) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:46:42 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Web Site Message-ID: <002001cacc5c$4721b790$4101a8c0@wolfganga9a2ab> Hi all ; I have a web site now , not a lot on there, but do have some things posted both new &used with prices, or if you don't see somthing you looking for you can always call me. I do have some project cars i'm going to put up for sale, once i get the time to post some PICs or if your looking you can all me in the mean time Also you can call me just for Info, even if your not looking to buy anything Mike Kerr 3730 Todrob ln. Placerville, CA 95667 530-644-6777 www.roadsterdatsun.com From sumton at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 25 13:55:40 2010 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:55:40 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Vertical Mount Radio In-Reply-To: References: <791293.57830.qm@web83303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8E1265E92DF7413B87B7E326B9C3962C@ranteer.local> he did a great job on my radio, too, for a great price -------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Kroninger" Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:04 PM To: ; "Datsun Mailing List" Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Vertical Mount Radio > Keith > > Talk to Keith Williams. His Dad rebuilt mine 68s radio for significantly > less > than that (well under $100, but charges may have changed). Then I got a > Redi-rad radio adapter from Brew city in Milwaukee. It is a transmitter > that > plugs into the antenna input and allows you to play an ipod or portable cd > player through your radio. Pretty cheap and took my about 30 mins to > install, > and I am not an expert at all. I did a write up on www.311s.org in the > product reviews section. From keithddowning at yahoo.com Thu Mar 25 14:30:49 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:30:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Vertical Mount Radio In-Reply-To: <8E1265E92DF7413B87B7E326B9C3962C@ranteer.local> References: <791293.57830.qm@web83303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <8E1265E92DF7413B87B7E326B9C3962C@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <538958.33802.qm@web83306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Thanks all. I have a replacement unit lined up. Appreciate the offers and input. Keith ________________________________ From: oliver To: Datsun Mailing List Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 1:55:40 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Vertical Mount Radio he did a great job on my radio, too, for a great price -------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Kroninger" Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:04 PM To: ; "Datsun Mailing List" Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Vertical Mount Radio > Keith > > Talk to Keith Williams. His Dad rebuilt mine 68s radio for significantly less > than that (well under $100, but charges may have changed). Then I got a > Redi-rad radio adapter from Brew city in Milwaukee. It is a transmitter that > plugs into the antenna input and allows you to play an ipod or portable cd > player through your radio. Pretty cheap and took my about 30 mins to install, > and I am not an expert at all. I did a write up on www.311s.org in the > product reviews section. ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.com From tom at datsun2000.com Fri Mar 26 01:09:52 2010 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 01:09:52 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for a new webmaster for NOWROC Message-ID: As I get closer to moving to Las Vegas I think it is time to look for a new webmaster in the Northwest to take over the site, and maybe find ways to get members together now and then. If you are interested send me a note and we can get you started. I will continue to host the site if that is a problem. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org GIVE ME MY FREEDOM, MY GUNS, AND MY MONEY..... YOU CAN KEEP THE CHANGE !!!! I'LL KEEP MY FREEDOM From 9laser3 at bright.net Fri Mar 26 10:13:04 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:13:04 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1982 Datsun Maxima 2.8 Diesel Message-ID: <002f01cacd07$99c1cac0$cd456040$@net> http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/1660179944.html Wasn't somebody looking for one of these awhile back? Paul Ohio From reblues at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 13:21:56 2010 From: reblues at gmail.com (Richard Brown) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:21:56 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Scapping front half of 1970 body Message-ID: <35D181D339FA4491821C3CCDDB50C127@Reblues> The floor pans are shot. No windshield frame. No fenders. Slight dent in the cowl vent area. I'm getting ready to scrap it so if anyone needs any pieces I can cut them out. Atlanta, Ga area. Richard Brown From vlaury at roadrunner.com Fri Mar 26 19:52:10 2010 From: vlaury at roadrunner.com (Vlaury@roadrunner.com) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:52:10 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Could it be? Message-ID: <381E7FE1-3F8C-4024-A3E7-F29A140F57E8@roadrunner.com> Is it possible that I'm willing to let my roadster sit for six months at a time, just for the thrill of rediscovery? Spent a couple days for a pre-Solvang dust-off, polish-up and shake- down. Replaced a couple hoses that felt to be at the end of their service life, and went for an in-town spin (little Tokyo). When I got home and safe in the car port, I sat there. "G-D! This car is F'n Awesome!" Can anyone relate? Victor Laury Senior Environmental Specialist Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority Quality Assurance Department Environmental Compliance Section (213) 922-5795 (213) 470-1792 Pager (213) 361-0643 Cell (213) 922-5869 Fax 900 Lyon Street 30-2-1 Los Angeles, CA 90012-2952 From gcallahan at prodigy.net Fri Mar 26 20:23:47 2010 From: gcallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 20:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Could it be? In-Reply-To: <381E7FE1-3F8C-4024-A3E7-F29A140F57E8@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: <978036.68059.qm@web81004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I know just how you feel! My baby sits under a car cover throughout the rainy season; then when the sun comes it's like the first time all over again! Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 --- On Fri, 3/26/10, Vlaury at roadrunner.com wrote: From: Vlaury at roadrunner.com Subject: [Roadsters] Could it be? To: "Datsun Roadsters" Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 7:52 PM Is it possible that I'm willing to let my roadster sit for six months at a time, just for the thrill of rediscovery? Spent a couple days for a pre-Solvang dust-off, polish-up and shake-down. Replaced a couple hoses that felt to be at the end of their service life, and went for an in-town spin (little Tokyo). When I got home and safe in the car port, I sat there. "G-D! This car is F'n Awesome!" Can anyone relate? Victor Laury Senior Environmental Specialist Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority Quality Assurance Department Environmental Compliance Section (213) 922-5795 (213) 470-1792 Pager (213) 361-0643 Cell (213) 922-5869 Fax 900 Lyon Street 30-2-1 Los Angeles, CA 90012-2952 ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcallahan at prodigy.net From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 26 21:06:08 2010 From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 21:06:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Could it be? In-Reply-To: <381E7FE1-3F8C-4024-A3E7-F29A140F57E8@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: <423273.33306.qm@web53507.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Gee, Victor... are you just now figuring that out?? We all feel that way! That's what the "Enjoy the ride!" slogan means! Glad to hear that you had fun. Patti --- On Fri, 3/26/10, Vlaury at roadrunner.com wrote: From: Vlaury at roadrunner.com Subject: [Roadsters] Could it be? To: "Datsun Roadsters" Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 7:52 PM "Is it possible that I'm willing to let my roadster sit for six months at a time, just for the thrill of rediscovery?" "When I got home and safe in the car port, I sat there. "G-D! This car is F'n Awesome!" "Can anyone relate?" From aultgc at att.net Fri Mar 26 21:12:50 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:12:50 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Could it be? References: <978036.68059.qm@web81004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Then in two weeks you have to put it away again when rainy season starts? ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Callahan" To: "Datsun Roadsters" ; "Vlaury at roadrunner.com" Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Could it be? >I know just how you feel! My baby sits under a car cover throughout the >rainy > season; then when the sun comes it's like the first time all over again! > > > > Gary Callahan > Beaverton, Oregon > > 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster > SPL311-18665 > > > > --- On Fri, 3/26/10, Vlaury at roadrunner.com wrote: > > > From: Vlaury at roadrunner.com > Subject: [Roadsters] Could it be? > To: "Datsun Roadsters" > Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 7:52 PM > > > Is it possible that I'm willing to let my roadster sit for six months at a > time, just for the thrill of rediscovery? > > Spent a couple days for a pre-Solvang dust-off, polish-up and shake-down. > Replaced a couple hoses that felt to be at the end of their service life, > and > went for an in-town spin (little Tokyo). > > When I got home and safe in the car port, I sat there. "G-D! This car is > F'n > Awesome!" > > Can anyone relate? > > Victor Laury > Senior Environmental Specialist > Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority > Quality Assurance Department > Environmental Compliance Section > (213) 922-5795 > (213) 470-1792 Pager > (213) 361-0643 Cell > (213) 922-5869 Fax > 900 Lyon Street > 30-2-1 > Los Angeles, CA 90012-2952 > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcallahan at prodigy.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From haabu at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 26 22:27:20 2010 From: haabu at sbcglobal.net (Herb Petty) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: Could it be? Message-ID: <419228.73979.qm@web81806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Victor, With the weather you have, I'm suprised you don't drive your Roadster more often. Here in Modesto I drive my ol Yellow car just about daily ! Hope to say hello at Solvang :-) Herb Petty. --- On Fri, 3/26/10, Vlaury at roadrunner.com wrote: From: Vlaury at roadrunner.com Subject: [Roadsters] Could it be? To: "Datsun Roadsters" Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 7:52 PM Is it possible that I'm willing to let my roadster sit for six months at a time, just for the thrill of rediscovery? Spent a couple days for a pre-Solvang dust-off, polish-up and shake-down. Replaced a couple hoses that felt to be at the end of their service life, and went for an in-town spin (little Tokyo). When I got home and safe in the car port, I sat there. "G-D! This car is F'n Awesome!" Can anyone relate? Victor Laury Senior Environmental Specialist Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority Quality Assurance Department Environmental Compliance Section (213) 922-5795 (213) 470-1792 Pager (213) 361-0643 Cell (213) 922-5869 Fax 900 Lyon Street 30-2-1 Los Angeles, CA 90012-2952 ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/haabu at sbcglobal.net From vlaury at roadrunner.com Fri Mar 26 23:39:09 2010 From: vlaury at roadrunner.com (Vlaury@roadrunner.com) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:39:09 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: Could it be? In-Reply-To: <419228.73979.qm@web81806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <419228.73979.qm@web81806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8E8FE043-61F8-4A7B-85B6-115FBC63253E@roadrunner.com> Herb, I'm sure you know, when it gets 48, us southerners wilt. On Mar 26, 2010, at 22:27, Herb Petty wrote: > Victor, With the weather you have, I'm suprised you don't drive > your Roadster more often. Here in Modesto I drive my ol Yellow car > just about daily! Hope to say hello at Solvang :-) Herb From rogerkerschhd at hotmail.com Sat Mar 27 07:19:39 2010 From: rogerkerschhd at hotmail.com (Roger Kersch) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 09:19:39 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Radios available: Message-ID: I have a small army of radios of which I need to wire them up and see if they work, I'll keep y'all posted _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:032010_3 From tputland at charter.net Sat Mar 27 08:06:22 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 8:06:22 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Could it be? In-Reply-To: <381E7FE1-3F8C-4024-A3E7-F29A140F57E8@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: <20100327110622.PLJ3L.3683848.root@mp18> The need for "rediscovery" for me was so intense that, after we got the new carbs on, I took my Roadster out in 40 degree weather with no front fenders or doors. A pictures can be seen on the Dairyland Datsuns facebook page. Tim Dairyland Datsuns ---- "Vlaury at roadrunner.com" wrote: ============= Is it possible that I'm willing to let my roadster sit for six months at a time, just for the thrill of rediscovery? Spent a couple days for a pre-Solvang dust-off, polish-up and shake- down. Replaced a couple hoses that felt to be at the end of their service life, and went for an in-town spin (little Tokyo). When I got home and safe in the car port, I sat there. "G-D! This car is F'n Awesome!" Can anyone relate? Victor Laury Senior Environmental Specialist Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority Quality Assurance Department Environmental Compliance Section (213) 922-5795 (213) 470-1792 Pager (213) 361-0643 Cell (213) 922-5869 Fax 900 Lyon Street 30-2-1 Los Angeles, CA 90012-2952 ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From slowboy at cox.net Sat Mar 27 09:05:03 2010 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 09:05:03 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Restored 1967.5 Message-ID: It would seem I lost part of my archives. One part I know is gone are the photos of the in process restoration of Andrew Murphy's 1967.5 done at Sports Imports. Anyone still have them as I'd like to have them again? Thanks! Jim From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Sat Mar 27 11:26:44 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 11:26:44 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Could it be? In-Reply-To: References: <978036.68059.qm@web81004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: Totally get the thrill - Eliza has been 'up on blocks' for about a year - and now she is running - new engine, new suspension - tighter than a drum - flat around corners - nippy but not outrageously so - man it's FUN to be behind the wheel again - the thrill of double de-clutching - the sound of the engine working - the sound of the exhaust - can't beat it - worth all the money and frustration. Peter (TOAD SAN) From mkiisupra at hotmail.com Sat Mar 27 13:05:39 2010 From: mkiisupra at hotmail.com (Eric Gillis) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 20:05:39 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Could it be? In-Reply-To: <381E7FE1-3F8C-4024-A3E7-F29A140F57E8@roadrunner.com> References: <381E7FE1-3F8C-4024-A3E7-F29A140F57E8@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: +1 in the highest order Victor! I spent about 7 months gathering funds and time to rebuild the 1600 and refresh the engine bay. After sorting out random loose hose clamps and the sorting with an engine R&R, I found myself in the same state of automotive nirvana (auto-vana?) as you! Much better manners and giddy-up with all four cylinder's compression instead of just three.. Solvang dust-off and wipe down commencing this weekend! Eric Gillis > From: vlaury at roadrunner.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:52:10 -0700 > Subject: [Roadsters] Could it be? > > Is it possible that I'm willing to let my roadster sit for six months > at a time, just for the thrill of rediscovery? > > Spent a couple days for a pre-Solvang dust-off, polish-up and shake- > down. Replaced a couple hoses that felt to be at the end of their > service life, and went for an in-town spin (little Tokyo). > > When I got home and safe in the car port, I sat there. "G-D! This car > is F'n Awesome!" > > Can anyone relate? > > Victor Laury > Senior Environmental Specialist > Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority > Quality Assurance Department > Environmental Compliance Section > (213) 922-5795 > (213) 470-1792 Pager > (213) 361-0643 Cell > (213) 922-5869 Fax > 900 Lyon Street > 30-2-1 > Los Angeles, CA 90012-2952 > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/mkiisupra at hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsofts powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/ From zmydust1 at gmail.com Sat Mar 27 14:11:40 2010 From: zmydust1 at gmail.com (Jonathan Chadic) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 16:11:40 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for a driver or restored low windshield car Message-ID: Im located in Jackson,MS but willing to travel a reasonable distance. Jonathan Zmydust1 at gmail dot com From tputland at charter.net Sun Mar 28 07:00:01 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 7:00:01 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] idle fixed (from last fall) Message-ID: <20100328100001.ASJBD.3716893.root@mp17> Last fall I was unable to get the idle down below 1500 or so on my 70 1600. Since I had replace the needle valves and floats and all the adjustment screws were completely backed off, the assumption was bad carbs. While replacing the carbs last week, we (well, Steve any way) were unable to get the carbs balanced at idle; (We were able to get the idle well below 1000). When we were about ready to give up, I started to fiddle with the choke bits. Well, upon pushing down on the rear choke cable connection, I got close to an inch of down movement on the cable; and this despite the choke knob being pushed all the way it on the center console. Once we removed the choke cable it was all easy from there. So, moral of the story after all this frustration, don't over look the little things! Tim From sumton at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 28 08:48:16 2010 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 10:48:16 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] car on craigslist Message-ID: <0CE787758C514DEA8490BC92268BA810@ranteer.local> fyi - I know absolutely nothing about this one. http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/cto/1638803820.html From ronnie.day at gmail.com Sun Mar 28 09:14:28 2010 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 11:14:28 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Brake system bleeders Message-ID: <2faaebf81003280914p53c10e7fv54a26ee45d2b0b55@mail.gmail.com> Has anyone used any of the reverse flow bleeder system like the ones from Phoenix Systems that Stacy David talks about on his show? They make several models including a fairly inexpensive unit for under $100. I wouldn't mind spending that much or a bit more, if they work well of course. It would make taking care of the brakes on our "fleet" a lot easier. Ron From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Sun Mar 28 11:27:51 2010 From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 11:27:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] car on craigslist In-Reply-To: <0CE787758C514DEA8490BC92268BA810@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <970191.48255.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Looks pretty! I'm lusting, it is identical to the one I had back in 1972. I have a red one today, but I love the white. JimG NJ 2K '69 --- On Sun, 3/28/10, oliver wrote: From: oliver Subject: [Roadsters] car on craigslist To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.ne roadster list" Date: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 11:48 AM fyi - I know absolutely nothing about this one. http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/cto/1638803820.html ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sun Mar 28 11:43:59 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 14:43:59 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Brake system bleeders In-Reply-To: <2faaebf81003280914p53c10e7fv54a26ee45d2b0b55@mail.gmail.com> References: <2faaebf81003280914p53c10e7fv54a26ee45d2b0b55@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CC9CBDC3590672-A00-21C10@webmail-d042.sysops.aol.com> Why with speed bleeders? Linda -----Original Message----- From: Ronnie Day To: Roadster List ; Shop Talk List Sent: Sun, Mar 28, 2010 9:14 am Subject: [Roadsters] Brake system bleeders Has anyone used any of the reverse flow bleeder system like the ones from Phoenix Systems that Stacy David talks about on his show? They make several models including a fairly inexpensive unit for under $100. I wouldn't mind spending that much or a bit more, if they work well of course. It would make taking care of the brakes on our "fleet" a lot easier. Ron ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From msedlack at neo.rr.com Sun Mar 28 12:24:20 2010 From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 15:24:20 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Could it be? References: <381E7FE1-3F8C-4024-A3E7-F29A140F57E8@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: <3AFDE9442CE34FA08E04FA64A2445F60@p53ghzduo> Sounds like Datsun ownership in N.E. Ohio! You see, we have this thing called winter, with its snow and its salt, and its single digit temps that keeps ou cars snugly stored for 4-5 months EVERY year. Each Spring is a renewal and reconnection with the road and a new chance to Enjoy the Ride!!! Mark Sedlack Clinton, OH 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ New house: http://www.mildevco.net/house2/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vlaury at roadrunner.com" To: "Datsun Roadsters" Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:52 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Could it be? > Is it possible that I'm willing to let my roadster sit for six months at > a time, just for the thrill of rediscovery? > > Spent a couple days for a pre-Solvang dust-off, polish-up and shake- down. > Replaced a couple hoses that felt to be at the end of their service life, > and went for an in-town spin (little Tokyo). > > When I got home and safe in the car port, I sat there. "G-D! This car is > F'n Awesome!" > > Can anyone relate? > > Victor Laury > Senior Environmental Specialist > Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority > Quality Assurance Department > Environmental Compliance Section > (213) 922-5795 > (213) 470-1792 Pager > (213) 361-0643 Cell > (213) 922-5869 Fax > 900 Lyon Street > 30-2-1 > Los Angeles, CA 90012-2952 > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/msedlack at neo.rr.com From ronnie.day at gmail.com Sun Mar 28 13:09:50 2010 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 15:09:50 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Brake system bleeders In-Reply-To: <8CC9CBDC3590672-A00-21C10@webmail-d042.sysops.aol.com> References: <2faaebf81003280914p53c10e7fv54a26ee45d2b0b55@mail.gmail.com> <8CC9CBDC3590672-A00-21C10@webmail-d042.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <2faaebf81003281309m3964f2f6j6cf69a5ed2ea816f@mail.gmail.com> > Linda > Why with speed bleeders? > Primarily because you're pushing air bubbles and fresh fluid up toward the M/C. Air wants to go up anyhow. And, I think it would be easier than using the speed bleeders for an old guy like me with bad knees. ;>) Ron From ronnie.day at gmail.com Sun Mar 28 13:16:41 2010 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 15:16:41 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] car on craigslist In-Reply-To: <970191.48255.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <0CE787758C514DEA8490BC92268BA810@ranteer.local> <970191.48255.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2faaebf81003281316p235e11e7q9423ff2e0d51e159@mail.gmail.com> Roanoke is just northeast of Fort Worth in case anyone cares. Very nice car. Lots of time and money in it. Price would appear to be a steal, IMO. Wonder why he's selling and why so cheap? Ron From rabush2000 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 29 02:48:14 2010 From: rabush2000 at hotmail.com (richard bush) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 09:48:14 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] car on craigslist In-Reply-To: <2faaebf81003281316p235e11e7q9423ff2e0d51e159@mail.gmail.com> References: <0CE787758C514DEA8490BC92268BA810@ranteer.local>, <970191.48255.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com>, <2faaebf81003281316p235e11e7q9423ff2e0d51e159@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Does anyone know the seller of this car or how to contact him? Have sent an email to his CraigsList account but no response. Thanks and regards, R A Bush P O Box 500003 Dubai, UAE cell: 971 50 456 4357 > Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 15:16:41 -0500 > From: ronnie.day at gmail.com > To: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com > CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] car on craigslist > > Roanoke is just northeast of Fort Worth in case anyone cares. Very > nice car. Lots of time and money in it. Price would appear to be a > steal, IMO. Wonder why he's selling and why so cheap? > > Ron > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rabush2000 at hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 From sumton at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 29 06:27:44 2010 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 08:27:44 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] datsun on craigslist in the dfw metroplex Message-ID: <662C33A48813472CB4E9D3EC0F364F3C@ranteer.local> http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/cto/1638803820.html someone asked about contacting this guy - I just responded to the craigslist email, and he called me back. the owner is mike bailey - 817 - 329-3453 the car was in a wreck some years ago; the frame has been straightened; all the bodywork has been done; the engine has been rebuilt. its been in the family for a few years; his dad bought it from the original owner; then his brother had it; now he has it. hope that helps. the car is out near Alliance Airport and Texas Motor Speedway if someone is seriously interested we could go look at it this weekend. its about 45 minutes away so please don't ask me to do that just because . . . From bubwin at mts.net Mon Mar 29 11:30:28 2010 From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:30:28 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Eliza not working - recap In-Reply-To: <4B9E7314.4080603@hornesystemstx.com> References: <4B9E7314.4080603@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: 10 second check for this. Use a set of booster cables and place the negative on the battery and the other end on the engine. If it sparks or solves the problem you'll know immediately Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Horne" To: "peter harrison" Cc: "datsun" Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Eliza not working - recap > Peter, > > I believe you have ground problem. I believe the body is not grounded when > the wire to the regulator mounting bolt is disconnected, hence, all the > body-mounted items (lights, etc) do not work when the wire is > disconnected. > > The ignition problem probably has something to do with sneak paths that > the ungrounded body provides. > > Run a #12 or preferably a braid from the body to the chassis and you > should be set to go > > Peace, > Pat. > > > Thusly spake peter harrison, On 3/15/2010 10:48 AM: >> 1970 SPL 311 >> Using Pertronics dizzy WITH ballast resistor >> Grounds as follows :Negative post to FrameNegative post to body (bolt >> that >> holds down the resistor)Frame to engine (passenger side)Alternator to >> frameStarter motor body to frame >> Car "starts" but does not "run" UNLESS the POSITIVE battery post and >> POSITIVE >> coil are connected. >> With the negative post to BODY disconnected - NO activity - connected - >> everything works - lights etc. >> ________________________________________ >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/pat at hornesystemstx.com >> >> >> > > -- > Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 > Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 > www.hornesystemstx.com > -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/bubwin at mts.net From escanlon at wa-net.com Mon Mar 29 12:31:12 2010 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:31:12 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Eliza not working - recap References: <4B9E7314.4080603@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: Yikes when I first read this it seemed as though you were suggesting that he connect the + (Positive) end of the battery to the engine! You would DEFINITELY get a bunch of sparks on a Negative ground car. E > 10 second check for this. > > Use a set of booster cables and place the negative on the battery and the > other end on the engine. If it sparks or solves the problem you'll know > immediately > > Bob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat Horne" To: "peter harrison" Cc: "datsun" Sent: Monday, March > 15, 2010 12:49 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Eliza not working - recap > > >> Peter, >> >> I believe you have ground problem. I believe the body is not grounded >> when the wire to the regulator mounting bolt is disconnected, hence, all >> the body-mounted items (lights, etc) do not work when the wire is >> disconnected. From csp541983rx7 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 29 17:35:33 2010 From: csp541983rx7 at yahoo.com (steve newby) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:35:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] VERY original 68 1600 for sale Message-ID: <592367.28300.qm@web58703.mail.re1.yahoo.com> testing the waters on my original paint 1 owner 1600, currently listed on EBAY Item #330418881059 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330418881059&ss PageName=STRK:MESELX:IT Read the description, this would be truely a once in a lifetime buy, at least from this point forward (lol) Could have bought these for way less back in 72 From aultgc at att.net Mon Mar 29 18:28:09 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:28:09 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Shameless self-promotion References: Message-ID: <388D80D11377439C8E9290A59FAA59F1@gaxp1> Scott, Someone once said, "When it's true, it ain't braggin'." The Owner's manuals arrived today, and they are absolutely beautiful. The print quality, photo quality, color work, cover and paper quality -- all just great. I have an original manual, in fair condition. I can't say just what a genuine original looks like, but I suspect it would be difficult to tell yours from an original. Much, much better than any other reprint I have ever seen. Excellent work. What's the next project? List, If you want a first-quality manual in your glove box, as I do, you will not be disappointed. (I have no interest in this, although Scott and I have known each other for probably 25 years. I used to buy parts from him when he was in the Toledo, Ohio area and was the proprietor of Rising Sun Racing. I remember seeing his absolutely immaculate onxy black '68 (?) car, shortly after he refinished it for the first time, perfect in every way (to my eye), every nut and bolt re-plated. He was planning to re-do the paint because it wasn't quite right. I thought he was nuts. Attention to detail has always been his style.) Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Sheeler" To: "Roadster List" Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:59 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Shameless self-promotion > Good morning: > > > > Any Owner needing a real nice Owner's manual reprint can find versions for > all > years - 66-70 - on my eBay "buy iy now" listings. We've used the > high-quality > scans from The Datsun Roadster Book to print individual manuals for your > glove > box. > > > > The differences from previous versions are these have color covers, white > pages, and look like the originals. > > > > Canadian Owners will also be able to get theirs from Ross at Sports > Imports in > a week or so depending on the speed of the postal system. > > > > For those not interested, apologies. > > Scott Sheeler > http://thedatsunroadsterbook.com/ > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From stevenehlers at charter.net Mon Mar 29 19:19:26 2010 From: stevenehlers at charter.net (stevenehlers at charter.net) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:19:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters car on craigslist Message-ID: <20100329221926.BDQV8.1428489.root@mp15> Hey , I worked on this car a few years ago and got it running after Mike's Dad rebuilt it 20 years ago . Any questions about it ,just call the shop . Mike is moving to New Zealand and is selling any all assets in Texas . Call :Rising Sun Performance 817-731-6092 Steve Ehlers From stevenehlers at charter.net Mon Mar 29 19:19:35 2010 From: stevenehlers at charter.net (stevenehlers at charter.net) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:19:35 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters car on craigslist Message-ID: <20100329221935.TPHBQ.1428511.root@mp15> Hey , I worked on this car a few years ago and got it running after Mike's Dad rebuilt it 20 years ago . Any questions about it ,just call the shop . Mike is moving to New Zealand and is selling any all assets in Texas . Call :Rising Sun Performance 817-731-6092 Steve Ehlers From 9laser3 at bright.net Tue Mar 30 02:42:26 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 05:42:26 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] VERY original 68 1600 for sale In-Reply-To: <592367.28300.qm@web58703.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <592367.28300.qm@web58703.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001cacfed$4fb10340$ef1309c0$@net> The description of this car could have easily been for my '69 1600 when I bought it, except mine had the original interior still in it. I bought mine back in the spring of 1996. It came with a car load of spare new & used parts from other roadsters, including a windshield, rear brake cylinders, soft top, a set of doors, and lots of little pieces. I paid $2000; $1000 for the car and $1000 for all the parts. I was the third owner behind the two brothers that had it first. Best money I've spent in a long time! Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of steve newby testing the waters on my original paint 1 owner 1600, currently listed on EBAY Item #330418881059 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330418881059&s s PageName=STRK:MESELX:IT Read the description, this would be truely a once in a lifetime buy, at least from this point forward (lol) Could have bought these for way less back in 72 From stebharvey at ameritech.net Tue Mar 30 05:40:04 2010 From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 07:40:04 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] SU Tuning Tool Set Message-ID: <000901cad006$1fdb5710$5f920530$@net> Group, I found a SU tuning tool set, stock number 885094 that is made in "West Germany". Is anyone familiar with this tool and if so, does it work? Thanks Steve From cookefam314 at gmail.com Tue Mar 30 07:06:02 2010 From: cookefam314 at gmail.com (Dave Cooke) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:06:02 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Shameless self-promotion In-Reply-To: <388D80D11377439C8E9290A59FAA59F1@gaxp1> References: <388D80D11377439C8E9290A59FAA59F1@gaxp1> Message-ID: <83a7d2521003300706i519cc332qee12c5c7c0261b91@mail.gmail.com> I couldn't find any on eBay for the 68-70 Roadsters, are there any more available? -Dave Cooke On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > Scott, > > Someone once said, "When it's true, it ain't braggin'." The Owner's > manuals arrived today, and they are absolutely beautiful. The print > quality, photo quality, color work, cover and paper quality -- all just > great. I have an original manual, in fair condition. I can't say just what > a genuine original looks like, but I suspect it would be difficult to tell > yours from an original. Much, much better than any other reprint I have > ever seen. Excellent work. > > What's the next project? > > List, > > If you want a first-quality manual in your glove box, as I do, you will not > be disappointed. (I have no interest in this, although Scott and I have > known each other for probably 25 years. I used to buy parts from him when > he was in the Toledo, Ohio area and was the proprietor of Rising Sun Racing. > I remember seeing his absolutely immaculate onxy black '68 (?) car, shortly > after he refinished it for the first time, perfect in every way (to my eye), > every nut and bolt re-plated. He was planning to re-do the paint because it > wasn't quite right. I thought he was nuts. Attention to detail has always > been his style.) > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Sheeler" < > poontang188 at hotmail.com> > To: "Roadster List" > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:59 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] Shameless self-promotion > > > Good morning: >> >> >> >> Any Owner needing a real nice Owner's manual reprint can find versions for >> all >> years - 66-70 - on my eBay "buy iy now" listings. We've used the >> high-quality >> scans from The Datsun Roadster Book to print individual manuals for your >> glove >> box. >> >> >> >> The differences from previous versions are these have color covers, white >> pages, and look like the originals. >> >> >> >> Canadian Owners will also be able to get theirs from Ross at Sports >> Imports in >> a week or so depending on the speed of the postal system. >> >> >> >> For those not interested, apologies. >> >> Scott Sheeler >> http://thedatsunroadsterbook.com/ >> ________________________________________ >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net >> > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/cookefam314 at gmail.com > -- Dave Cooke Midwest Roadsters From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Mar 30 07:34:14 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:34:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] April 17/18 run to Morro Bay In-Reply-To: <012001cacfbb$c14ca4a0$43e5ede0$@com> Message-ID: <1077978601.21566951269959654988.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Just passing along..... Contact Derek if interested. ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Derek Garnier" To: "Pete Peters" Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 8:47:43 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: RE: April 17/18 run to Morro Bay Any car is fine. This isnbt a major run, just the pre-run. The guy coming with me is driving a turbo diesel VW, so was just opening it up to the list in case anyone wanted a getaway for the weekend. From: Pete Peters [mailto:ppeters914 at comcast.net] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 6:16 PM To: 'Derek Garnier' Subject: RE: April 17/18 run to Morro Bay Dimes only? If not, I'll post on the roadster list. Pete From: bluebirds-request at bluebirds.datsun510.com [mailto:bluebirds-request at bluebirds.datsun510.com] On Behalf Of Derek Garnier Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 1:09 PM To: 'Bluebirds' Subject: April 17/18 run to Morro Bay Hi Folks, I am pre-running a route to Morro Bay for an upcoming event and wanted to see if anyone is interested in joining. Webll be leaving from San Jose and taking back roads into Morro Bay, staying overnight on Saturday, and then running different backroads back on Sunday. And as an added bonus, webll be stopping by the James Dean memorial at the intersection where he died. If interested, let me know and Ibll forward information. Derek From pat at hornesystemstx.com Tue Mar 30 07:40:31 2010 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:40:31 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] SU Tuning Tool Set In-Reply-To: <000901cad006$1fdb5710$5f920530$@net> References: <000901cad006$1fdb5710$5f920530$@net> Message-ID: <4BB20D5F.1050908@hornesystemstx.com> Steve, If it anything like the SU tuning kit I had back in the early 70s when I was a shade tree mechanic. It has 2 wire rods, about 4" long with either right angles or triangles bent at one end, a wrench, a plastic rod for measuring float height via the banjo bolt holes, and possibly a tool for centering the jets. I don't recall what else. The rods are intended to be inserted into the dashpots on top of the carbs so that you can see how high the pistons move up without pulling the air filter. I seem to recall that mine was in a brushed leather roll up kit, but that was way too long ago! I never used it. The wrench fits the jet adjustment nut. I don't remember if it was for the jet centering nut, or for the needle adjustment, either way, I didn't use it. I also had a Uni-Syn for measuring the airflow into the carbs. I used it all the time. Needless to say, after a few years of carrying the tuning tool set around, and never using it, I got rid of it. I found this kit http://www.minimania.com/web/item/00-3683/invDetail.cfm, but it is not what I had, I don't think. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Steve Harvey, On 3/30/2010 7:40 AM: > Group, > > > > I found a SU tuning tool set, stock number 885094 that is made in "West > Germany". Is anyone familiar with this tool and if so, does it work? > > > > Thanks > > > > Steve > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/pat at hornesystemstx.com > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 30 08:53:09 2010 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 08:53:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] April 17/18 run to Morro Bay In-Reply-To: <1077978601.21566951269959654988.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <716844.23835.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> You know, the intersection where James Dean died doesn't exist anymore. Highway 46 was realigned (and renamed, was 466) in 1957-1958, and the current 4-lane highway is west of the original, 2-lane, Highway 466. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Tue, 3/30/10, Pete Peters wrote: From: Pete Peters Subject: [Roadsters] April 17/18 run to Morro Bay To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 7:34 AM Just passing along..... Contact Derek if interested. ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Derek Garnier" To: "Pete Peters" Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 8:47:43 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: RE: April 17/18 run to Morro Bay Any car is fine. This isnbt a major run, just the pre-run. The guy coming with me is driving a turbo diesel VW, so was just opening it up to the list in case anyone wanted a getaway for the weekend. From: Pete Peters [mailto:ppeters914 at comcast.net] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 6:16 PM To: 'Derek Garnier' Subject: RE: April 17/18 run to Morro Bay Dimes only? If not, I'll post on the roadster list. Pete From: bluebirds-request at bluebirds.datsun510.com [mailto:bluebirds-request at bluebirds.datsun510.com] On Behalf Of Derek Garnier Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 1:09 PM To: 'Bluebirds' Subject: April 17/18 run to Morro Bay Hi Folks, I am pre-running a route to Morro Bay for an upcoming event and wanted to see if anyone is interested in joining. Webll be leaving from San Jose and taking back roads into Morro Bay, staying overnight on Saturday, and then running different backroads back on Sunday. And as an added bonus, webll be stopping by the James Dean memorial at the intersection where he died. If interested, let me know and Ibll forward information. Derek ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 30 09:08:21 2010 From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:08:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] SU Tuning Tool Set Message-ID: <698839.15272.qm@web53505.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi, Steve! I have one, like Pat described. I like it for balancing because you can easily see where the pistons are riding in relation to each other. But, I also use the Uni-syn and Color-Tune to get the mix set correctly. Would I buy it again? Probably. Is it necessary? I don't think so. Patti From aultgc at att.net Tue Mar 30 10:18:15 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] SU Tuning Tool Set In-Reply-To: <000901cad006$1fdb5710$5f920530$@net> References: <000901cad006$1fdb5710$5f920530$@net> Message-ID: <959885.23015.qm@web180201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Steve, A picture or a link would help understand what you are talking about. But, if it is like the kit Pat and Patti described, then it also includes a jig for centering the nozzle carrier with respect to the needles. You inistall the jig onto the bottom of the piston(s), and then loosen the nozzle carrier to allow it to slide over the wide part of the jig. Eliminates needle interference with the nozzles. It is intended for balancing multiple SU and, I think, Stromberg carbs. Mine has three rods so one can work on triple carb set-ups like the old in-line six-cylinder Jags. Never used it that way, though. Always use my Uni-Syn. Gary ________________________________ From: Steve Harvey To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 7:40:04 AM Subject: [Roadsters] SU Tuning Tool Set Group, I found a SU tuning tool set, stock number 885094 that is made in "West Germany". Is anyone familiar with this tool and if so, does it work? Thanks Steve ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From nancerichardedward at yahoo.com Tue Mar 30 12:49:17 2010 From: nancerichardedward at yahoo.com (Richard Nance) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Western Colorado Roadster Message-ID: <248043.24066.qm@web36105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello All, Is anyone coming down 70 through Glenwood Springs/ If so please contact me. I have only seen the two roadsters that I have had and would like to see some others. You can call me 970-987-9482. I will not make Moab Car Show this year. but Glenwood Springs is a great area to ride the roadsters. Let me know, Richard From mvaughn120 at aol.com Tue Mar 30 13:22:49 2010 From: mvaughn120 at aol.com (mvaughn120 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:22:49 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Shameless self-promotion In-Reply-To: <388D80D11377439C8E9290A59FAA59F1@gaxp1> References: <388D80D11377439C8E9290A59FAA59F1@gaxp1> Message-ID: <8CC9E5DE70F75B5-1D0C-B17@webmail-d078.sysops.aol.com> Scott, My manual arrived today. Love it! Thank you, Shelly SPL311-00058 Wilmington, Delaware -----Original Message----- From: Gary and Cindy Ault To: Scott Sheeler ; Datsun-Roadsters at Autox.Team. Net Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 9:28 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Shameless self-promotion Scott, Someone once said, "When it's true, it ain't braggin'." The Owner's manuals arrived today, and they are absolutely beautiful. The print quality, photo quality, color work, cover and paper quality -- all just great. I have an original manual, in fair condition. I can't say just what a genuine original looks like, but I suspect it would be difficult to tell yours from an original. Much, much better than any other reprint I have ever seen. Excellent work. What's the next project? List, If you want a first-quality manual in your glove box, as I do, you will not be disappointed. (I have no interest in this, although Scott and I have known each other for probably 25 years. I used to buy parts from him when he was in the Toledo, Ohio area and was the proprietor of Rising Sun Racing. I remember seeing his absolutely immaculate onxy black '68 (?) car, shortly after he refinished it for the first time, perfect in every way (to my eye), every nut and bolt re-plated. He was planning to re-do the paint because it wasn't quite right. I thought he was nuts. Attention to detail has always been his style.) Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Sheeler" To: "Roadster List" Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:59 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Shameless self-promotion > Good morning: > > > > Any Owner needing a real nice Owner's manual reprint can find versions for > all > years - 66-70 - on my eBay "buy iy now" listings. We've used the > high-quality > scans from The Datsun Roadster Book to print individual manuals for your > glove > box. > > > > The differences from previous versions are these have color covers, white > pages, and look like the originals. > > > > Canadian Owners will also be able to get theirs from Ross at Sports > Imports in > a week or so depending on the speed of the postal system. > > > > For those not interested, apologies. > > Scott Sheeler > http://thedatsunroadsterbook.com/ > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/mvaughn120 at aol.com From patrickcomitale at yahoo.com Tue Mar 30 13:55:04 2010 From: patrickcomitale at yahoo.com (P C) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 13:55:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Drivetrain for sale in NY Message-ID: <833599.31637.qm@web114108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I am considering selling the stock r16 1600 out of my 1966 fairlady. I'm located in upstate NY. I'm quite the ways away from SoCal but I thought it was worth a shot. Anybody know of someone looking? From datsunpartsdotcom at yahoo.com Wed Mar 31 08:38:17 2010 From: datsunpartsdotcom at yahoo.com (datsun parts.com) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:38:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] "THE DATSUN ROADSTER BOOK"-NEW EDITION / NEW OWNERS MANUELS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <47056.60789.qm@web36508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Some great new items here: www.datsunparts.com/2458 www.datsunparts.com/2459 www.datsunparts.com/2453 www.datsunparts.com/2454 www.datsunparts.com/2455 www.datsunparts.com/2456 www.datsunparts.com/2457 From Mtbdavid2 at aol.com Wed Mar 31 09:57:48 2010 From: Mtbdavid2 at aol.com (Mtbdavid2 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:57:48 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] with reservations I am putting my 1968 SRL Solex 2000 up for sale Message-ID: <4f216.683a743a.38e4d90c@aol.com> Hi, I have had my 1968 Datsun 2000 solex for over 10 years. A lot of work was done before I bought the car and I have put a lot of money and time into the car since owning it. It's red with 2 white stripes over the top (shelby look). It has a fresh new over $5k paint job and all the trimming was sent out to be rechromed. There is no rust. It has all new timing gears and chains and tensioners. It has solex carbs and B cam, new header, new shocks and springs and new front sway bar. The interior and carpet was redone in grey. There are no cracks in the dash and all the dials work. I also have a new soft top which I do not keep on the car. It has a nice stereo system as well. I can provide pics if you are interested and I have all of the receipts from myself and the previous owner. This is not a show car but is a fast runner and a great looker. I am asking $10k firm and for $12k I will include a spare set of solex carbs and manifold, original 2000 engine and 5spd transmission, many extra timing gears, hard top and any other spare parts I have. The engine probably needs a rebuild or at least the head. The tranny worked great when it was pulled. I would prefer to sell locally. If interested please call or reply with your questions. I can provide a detailed list of all expenses and parts that were replaced. I have receipts for everything. I can also provide as many pics as you like. Regards, David 510-552-0529 From Mtbdavid2 at aol.com Wed Mar 31 10:26:54 2010 From: Mtbdavid2 at aol.com (Mtbdavid2 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:26:54 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: with reservations I am putting my 1968 SRL Solex 2000 up for sale Message-ID: <514d1.f91806c.38e4dfde@aol.com> Hi, I have had my 1968 Datsun 2000 solex for over 10 years. A lot of work was done before I bought the car and I have put a lot of money and time into the car since owning it. It's red with 2 white stripes over the top (shelby look). It has a fresh new over $5k paint job and all the trimming was sent out to be rechromed. There is no rust. It has all new timing gears and chains and tensioners. It has solex carbs and B cam, new header, new shocks and springs and new front sway bar. The interior and carpet was redone in grey. There are no cracks in the dash and all the dials work. I also have a new soft top which I do not keep on the car. It has a nice stereo system as well. I can provide pics if you are interested and I have all of the receipts from myself and the previous owner. This is not a show car but is a fast runner and a great looker. I am asking $10k firm and for $12k I will include a spare set of solex carbs and manifold, original 2000 engine and 5spd transmission, many extra timing gears, hard top and any other spare parts I have. The engine probably needs a rebuild or at least the head. The tranny worked great when it was pulled. I would prefer to sell locally. If interested please call or reply with your questions. I can provide a detailed list of all expenses and parts that were replaced. I have receipts for everything. I can also provide as many pics as you like. Regards, David 510-552-0529 From Mtbdavid2 at aol.com Wed Mar 31 10:31:01 2010 From: Mtbdavid2 at aol.com (Mtbdavid2 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:31:01 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] test message, please delete Message-ID: <519b1.27433c4b.38e4e0d5@aol.com> From Mtbdavid2 at aol.com Wed Mar 31 12:34:46 2010 From: Mtbdavid2 at aol.com (Mtbdavid2 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:34:46 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: with reservations I am putting my 1968 SRL Solex 2000 up... Message-ID: <6b2ff.58c8209e.38e4fdd6@aol.com> Hi, I forget to mention the car is located in Fremont, CA. I will create setup a photobucket site tonight with tons of pictures for anyone that might be interested. I will email the link when the site is setup. Thanks, David In a message dated 3/31/2010 11:23:13 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Mtbdavid2 at aol.com writes: Hi, I have had my 1968 Datsun 2000 solex for over 10 years. A lot of work was done before I bought the car and I have put a lot of money and time into the car since owning it. It's red with 2 white stripes over the top (shelby look). It has a fresh new over $5k paint job and all the trimming was sent out to be rechromed. There is no rust. It has all new timing gears and chains and tensioners. It has solex carbs and B cam, new header, new shocks and springs and new front sway bar. The interior and carpet was redone in grey. There are no cracks in the dash and all the dials work. I also have a new soft top which I do not keep on the car. It has a nice stereo system as well. I can provide pics if you are interested and I have all of the receipts from myself and the previous owner. This is not a show car but is a fast runner and a great looker. I am asking $10k firm and for $12k I will include a spare set of solex carbs and manifold, original 2000 engine and 5spd transmission, many extra timing gears, hard top and any other spare parts I have. The engine probably needs a rebuild or at least the head. The tranny worked great when it was pulled. I would prefer to sell locally. If interested please call or reply with your questions. I can provide a detailed list of all expenses and parts that were replaced. I have receipts for everything. I can also provide as many pics as you like. Regards, David 510-552-0529 ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/mtbdavid2 at aol.com From mark at bradakis.com Wed Mar 31 15:44:48 2010 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:44:48 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: with reservations I am putting my 1968 SRL Solex 2000 up... In-Reply-To: <6b2ff.58c8209e.38e4fdd6@aol.com> References: <6b2ff.58c8209e.38e4fdd6@aol.com> Message-ID: <4BB3D060.8010201@bradakis.com> Mtbdavid2 at aol.com wrote: > Hi, > I forget to mention the car is located in Fremont, CA. I will create > setup a photobucket site tonight with tons of pictures for anyone that might > be interested. On a sort of related note, I'll remind folks that there is a Datsun forum at http://www.team.net/forums where one can post pictures of their cars, themselves, their dog or whatever, so you can share images with other listers, something not allowed on the more old school mailing list. mjb. From patrickcomitale at yahoo.com Wed Mar 31 19:40:31 2010 From: patrickcomitale at yahoo.com (P C) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Drivetrain for sale Message-ID: <407117.49916.qm@web114114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Make an offer for the complete drivetrain. From patrickcomitale at yahoo.com Wed Mar 31 23:10:23 2010 From: patrickcomitale at yahoo.com (P C) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 23:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Drivetrain for sale Message-ID: <151451.12316.qm@web114112.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> So sorry, 1966 r16 with 82k, planning on parting the drivetrain out, would like it to go soon, so make an offer. Upstate NY. Thanks