From RSCHLEGEL at OCSD.COM Tue Jun 1 08:41:40 2010 From: RSCHLEGEL at OCSD.COM (Schlegel, Richard) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 07:41:40 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Save my roadster? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7205D7C8DE0E724A8EBBB88675FBE8CC05C3164064@e07ms1.insideocsd.com> Nobody wants to save my 1968 Roadster? For Sale $1000 takes it all! (Plates NOT included) | 1968 Datsun Roadster SPL311-18910 R16 engine #61234, SUs with a 4 speed tranny. Sold Hardtop but I have the soft top mechanism. Thousands of dollars invested almost! Was running before parked according to the PO. Race ready including roll bar, slotted racing rims, and high performance hood pins! Everything will work once fixed or replaced GUARANTEED! All gauges reading to the left. Clock is correct twice a day. No carpet so nothing to vacuum! Original Red paint in some spots. Has been repainted black but it has faded a little. Has a few dings and shows some signs of wear and tear. Please keep in mind it is a 42 year old car! Must see to believe, I mean appreciate. A picture is worth a thousand words so here is about 73,000 of them. http://picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich/1968Datsun Rich Schlegel iamrockinrich at gmail.com From tputland at charter.net Tue Jun 1 08:55:58 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 7:55:58 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Save my roadster? In-Reply-To: <7205D7C8DE0E724A8EBBB88675FBE8CC05C3164064@e07ms1.insideocsd.com> Message-ID: <20100601105559.Y7EOY.4060796.root@mp08> I bought a "part" car (three years ago) for $500 that was complete, had a freshly rebuilt motor, and three boxes of NOS and other nice parts. Maybe $1000 for yours is too much? Tim Dairyland Datsuns ---- "Schlegel wrote: ============= Nobody wants to save my 1968 Roadster? For Sale $1000 takes it all! (Plates NOT included) | 1968 Datsun Roadster SPL311-18910 R16 engine #61234, SUs with a 4 speed tranny. Sold Hardtop but I have the soft top mechanism. Thousands of dollars invested almost! Was running before parked according to the PO. Race ready including roll bar, slotted racing rims, and high performance hood pins! Everything will work once fixed or replaced GUARANTEED! All gauges reading to the left. Clock is correct twice a day. No carpet so nothing to vacuum! Original Red paint in some spots. Has been repainted black but it has faded a little. Has a few dings and shows some signs of wear and tear. Please keep in mind it is a 42 year old car! Must see to believe, I mean appreciate. A picture is worth a thousand words so here is about 73,000 of them. http://picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich/1968Datsun Rich Schlegel iamrockinrich at gmail.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From tputland at charter.net Tue Jun 1 08:56:49 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 7:56:49 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Save my roadster? In-Reply-To: <7205D7C8DE0E724A8EBBB88675FBE8CC05C3164064@e07ms1.insideocsd.com> Message-ID: <20100601105650.KJWRK.4060842.root@mp08> Oh yea, and the guy delivered it to my house. Tim ---- "Schlegel wrote: ============= Nobody wants to save my 1968 Roadster? For Sale $1000 takes it all! (Plates NOT included) | 1968 Datsun Roadster SPL311-18910 R16 engine #61234, SUs with a 4 speed tranny. Sold Hardtop but I have the soft top mechanism. Thousands of dollars invested almost! Was running before parked according to the PO. Race ready including roll bar, slotted racing rims, and high performance hood pins! Everything will work once fixed or replaced GUARANTEED! All gauges reading to the left. Clock is correct twice a day. No carpet so nothing to vacuum! Original Red paint in some spots. Has been repainted black but it has faded a little. Has a few dings and shows some signs of wear and tear. Please keep in mind it is a 42 year old car! Must see to believe, I mean appreciate. A picture is worth a thousand words so here is about 73,000 of them. http://picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich/1968Datsun Rich Schlegel iamrockinrich at gmail.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From eddietude at socal.rr.com Tue Jun 1 09:10:10 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 08:10:10 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Save my roadster? In-Reply-To: <7205D7C8DE0E724A8EBBB88675FBE8CC05C3164064@e07ms1.insideocsd.com> References: <7205D7C8DE0E724A8EBBB88675FBE8CC05C3164064@e07ms1.insideocsd.com> Message-ID: <4C0522D2.2040109@socal.rr.com> You might want to list WHERE the vehicle is located... Schlegel, Richard wrote: > Nobody wants to save my 1968 Roadster? > For Sale $1000 takes it all! (Plates NOT included) | 1968 Datsun Roadster > SPL311-18910 > R16 engine #61234, SUs with a 4 speed tranny. Sold Hardtop but I have the soft > top mechanism. Thousands of dollars invested almost! Was running before parked > according to the PO. Race ready including roll bar, slotted racing rims, and > high performance hood pins! Everything will work once fixed or replaced > GUARANTEED! All gauges reading to the left. Clock is correct twice a day. No > carpet so nothing to vacuum! Original Red paint in some spots. Has been > repainted black but it has faded a little. Has a few dings and shows some > signs of wear and tear. Please keep in mind it is a 42 year old car! > Must see to believe, I mean appreciate. A picture is worth a thousand words so > here is about 73,000 of them. > http://picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich/1968Datsun > > Rich Schlegel > iamrockinrich at gmail.com > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From RSCHLEGEL at OCSD.COM Tue Jun 1 09:25:47 2010 From: RSCHLEGEL at OCSD.COM (Schlegel, Richard) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 08:25:47 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Save my roadster? In-Reply-To: <4C0522D2.2040109@socal.rr.com> References: <7205D7C8DE0E724A8EBBB88675FBE8CC05C3164064@e07ms1.insideocsd.com> <4C0522D2.2040109@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <7205D7C8DE0E724A8EBBB88675FBE8CC05C31640A2@e07ms1.insideocsd.com> Car is located in Buena Park, CA -----Original Message----- From: Eddie [mailto:eddietude at socal.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 8:10 AM To: Schlegel, Richard Cc: 'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Save my roadster? You might want to list WHERE the vehicle is located... Schlegel, Richard wrote: > Nobody wants to save my 1968 Roadster? > For Sale $1000 takes it all! (Plates NOT included) | 1968 Datsun Roadster > SPL311-18910 > R16 engine #61234, SUs with a 4 speed tranny. Sold Hardtop but I have the soft > top mechanism. Thousands of dollars invested almost! Was running before parked > according to the PO. Race ready including roll bar, slotted racing rims, and > high performance hood pins! Everything will work once fixed or replaced > GUARANTEED! All gauges reading to the left. Clock is correct twice a day. No > carpet so nothing to vacuum! Original Red paint in some spots. Has been > repainted black but it has faded a little. Has a few dings and shows some > signs of wear and tear. Please keep in mind it is a 42 year old car! > Must see to believe, I mean appreciate. A picture is worth a thousand words so > here is about 73,000 of them. > http://picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich/1968Datsun > > Rich Schlegel > iamrockinrich at gmail.com From eddietude at socal.rr.com Tue Jun 1 09:57:10 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 08:57:10 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Save my roadster? In-Reply-To: <20100601105559.Y7EOY.4060796.root@mp08> References: <20100601105559.Y7EOY.4060796.root@mp08> Message-ID: <4C052DD6.1080504@socal.rr.com> I know a guy who fell out of an airplane and landed in a tree and survived too. Doesn't mean that's the "norm"... I suspect that your "guy" who delivered a car with all of that stuff wanted to "get out" and didn't care about the money. Sounds to me like you scored the deal of the century Tim. I'm always amazed how Datsun Roadster owners complain there cars aren't worth a fortune, but then expect all the parts to be super cheap too. This is a 40+ year old car. Only a small number were ever made and imported to the US. Most parts haven't been made in 4 decades... DO THE MATH. Also, ever try buying parts for any other vehicle? People complain Roadster fenders are a couple hundred bucks. Heck, the fender for my 92 Dodge pickup is a couple hundred bucks! $1000 isn't unreasonable, but my guess is none of the cheap-ass roadster owners will be willing to pay it. Tim wrote: > I bought a "part" car (three years ago) for $500 that was complete, had a freshly rebuilt motor, and three boxes of NOS and other nice parts. > > Maybe $1000 for yours is too much? > > Tim > Dairyland Datsuns > > ---- "Schlegel wrote: > > ============= > Nobody wants to save my 1968 Roadster? > For Sale $1000 takes it all! (Plates NOT included) | 1968 Datsun Roadster > SPL311-18910 > R16 engine #61234, SUs with a 4 speed tranny. Sold Hardtop but I have the soft > top mechanism. Thousands of dollars invested almost! Was running before parked > according to the PO. Race ready including roll bar, slotted racing rims, and > high performance hood pins! Everything will work once fixed or replaced > GUARANTEED! All gauges reading to the left. Clock is correct twice a day. No > carpet so nothing to vacuum! Original Red paint in some spots. Has been > repainted black but it has faded a little. Has a few dings and shows some > signs of wear and tear. Please keep in mind it is a 42 year old car! > Must see to believe, I mean appreciate. A picture is worth a thousand words so > here is about 73,000 of them. > http://picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich/1968Datsun > > Rich Schlegel > iamrockinrich at gmail.com > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Jun 1 11:10:24 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 10:10:24 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Save my roadster? In-Reply-To: <4C052DD6.1080504@socal.rr.com> References: <20100601105559.Y7EOY.4060796.root@mp08> <4C052DD6.1080504@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <008001cb01ad$539deda0$fad9c8e0$@net> Ahem...Datsun owners are frugal not cheap a$$. Semantics aside, no responses may be due to: 1. the economy (and let's not go into any political debates, please). 2. nearly everyone on this list having one or more roadsters, so they don't want or cannot get another. If you're not already, I'd be posting on craigslist, Classic Car Trader, etc. Regards, Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eddie Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 8:57 AM To: Tim Cc: Schlegel, Richard; 'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Save my roadster? I know a guy who fell out of an airplane and landed in a tree and survived too. Doesn't mean that's the "norm"... I suspect that your "guy" who delivered a car with all of that stuff wanted to "get out" and didn't care about the money. Sounds to me like you scored the deal of the century Tim. I'm always amazed how Datsun Roadster owners complain their cars aren't worth a fortune, but then expect all the parts to be super cheap too. This is a 40+ year old car. Only a small number were ever made and imported to the US. Most parts haven't been made in 4 decades... DO THE MATH. Also, ever try buying parts for any other vehicle? People complain Roadster fenders are a couple hundred bucks. Heck, the fender for my 92 Dodge pickup is a couple hundred bucks! $1000 isn't unreasonable, but my guess is none of the cheap-ass roadster owners will be willing to pay it. -----Original Message----- Tim wrote: > I bought a "part" car (three years ago) for $500 that was complete, had a freshly rebuilt motor, and three boxes of NOS and other nice parts. > > Maybe $1000 for yours is too much? > > Tim > Dairyland Datsuns > -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Schlegel, Richard Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 7:42 AM To: 'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Save my roadster? Nobody wants to save my 1968 Roadster? For Sale $1000 takes it all! (Plates NOT included) 1968 Datsun Roadster SPL311-18910 R16 engine #61234, SUs with a 4 speed tranny. Sold Hardtop but I have the soft top mechanism. Thousands of dollars invested almost! Was running before parked according to the PO. Race ready including roll bar, slotted racing rims, and high performance hood pins! Everything will work once fixed or replaced GUARANTEED! All gauges reading to the left. Clock is correct twice a day. No carpet so nothing to vacuum! Original Red paint in some spots. Has been repainted black but it has faded a little. Has a few dings and shows some signs of wear and tear. Located in Buena Park, CA Please keep in mind it is a 42 year old car! Must see to believe, I mean appreciate. A picture is worth a thousand words so here is about 73,000 of them: Rich Schlegel iamrockinrich at gmail.com From ronnie.day at gmail.com Tue Jun 1 11:27:15 2010 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 12:27:15 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Save my roadster? In-Reply-To: <4C052DD6.1080504@socal.rr.com> References: <20100601105559.Y7EOY.4060796.root@mp08> <4C052DD6.1080504@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: > Eddie > I know a guy who fell out of an airplane and landed in a tree and survived > too. > > Doesn't mean that's the "norm"... > > I suspect that your "guy" who delivered a car with all of that stuff wanted > to "get out" and didn't care about the money. B Sounds to me like you scored > the deal of the century Tim. > I'm always amazed how Datsun Roadster owners complain there cars aren't > worth a fortune, but then expect all the parts to be super cheap too. > This is a 40+ year old car. B Only a small number were ever made and imported > to the US. B Most parts haven't been made in 4 decades... B DO THE MATH. > Also, ever try buying parts for any other vehicle? B People complain Roadster > fenders are a couple hundred bucks. B Heck, the fender for my 92 Dodge pickup > is a couple hundred bucks! > > $1000 isn't unreasonable, but my guess is none of the cheap-ass roadster > owners will be willing to pay it. 510 owner tend to be worse, in spite of the fact that in the past few years 510 specific parts have gone down the same path as roadster parts. Probably one mitigating factor for 510 parts is the many common parts with the 1st gen Z-Car. There are parts suppliers for both roadsters and 510s that had the foresight and means to buy available parts while Nissan was still making and stocking them. Now that it's a supply and demand situation, you can either buy or not. I've not heard of a vendor holding a gun to someones head while saying Buy or else! ;>) I'm getting ready to put my '70 2000 on the market. It's a nice car and will include a ton of extra parts. I don't plan on asking a ridiculous price, but I'm not going to give it away either. FWIW, Ron From RSCHLEGEL at OCSD.COM Tue Jun 1 12:28:44 2010 From: RSCHLEGEL at OCSD.COM (Schlegel, Richard) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 11:28:44 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Save my roadster? In-Reply-To: <20100601105559.Y7EOY.4060796.root@mp08> References: <7205D7C8DE0E724A8EBBB88675FBE8CC05C3164064@e07ms1.insideocsd.com> <20100601105559.Y7EOY.4060796.root@mp08> Message-ID: <7205D7C8DE0E724A8EBBB88675FBE8CC05C316419B@e07ms1.insideocsd.com> Maybe. But Seriously, You got a great deal! A really great deal! You wouldn't find that out here SoCal. To rebuild a motor would be $1000-$1500 alone. The Convertible mechanism goes for $250 on eBay, Used! I never find deals like that. -----Original Message----- From: Tim [mailto:tputland at charter.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 7:56 AM To: Schlegel, Richard; 'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Save my roadster? I bought a "part" car (three years ago) for $500 that was complete, had a freshly rebuilt motor, and three boxes of NOS and other nice parts. Maybe $1000 for yours is too much? Tim Dairyland Datsuns ---- "Schlegel wrote: ============= Nobody wants to save my 1968 Roadster? For Sale $1000 takes it all! (Plates NOT included) | 1968 Datsun Roadster SPL311-18910 R16 engine #61234, SUs with a 4 speed tranny. Sold Hardtop but I have the soft top mechanism. Thousands of dollars invested almost! Was running before parked according to the PO. Race ready including roll bar, slotted racing rims, and high performance hood pins! Everything will work once fixed or replaced GUARANTEED! All gauges reading to the left. Clock is correct twice a day. No carpet so nothing to vacuum! Original Red paint in some spots. Has been repainted black but it has faded a little. Has a few dings and shows some signs of wear and tear. Please keep in mind it is a 42 year old car! Must see to believe, I mean appreciate. A picture is worth a thousand words so here is about 73,000 of them. http://picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich/1968Datsun Rich Schlegel iamrockinrich at gmail.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From tputland at charter.net Tue Jun 1 12:43:41 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 11:43:41 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Save my roadster----rag top frame In-Reply-To: <7205D7C8DE0E724A8EBBB88675FBE8CC05C316419B@e07ms1.insideocsd.com> Message-ID: <20100601144342.RGQZ0.4074492.root@mp08> You read this Dan? Used rag top frames go for $250 on evilbay!!!!! You got a deal brotha! lol No worries! Keep 'em on the road! any way possible!!! Tim ---- "Schlegel wrote: ============= Maybe. But Seriously, You got a great deal! A really great deal! You wouldn't find that out here SoCal. To rebuild a motor would be $1000-$1500 alone. The Convertible mechanism goes for $250 on eBay, Used! I never find deals like that. -----Original Message----- From: Tim [mailto:tputland at charter.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 7:56 AM To: Schlegel, Richard; 'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Save my roadster? I bought a "part" car (three years ago) for $500 that was complete, had a freshly rebuilt motor, and three boxes of NOS and other nice parts. Maybe $1000 for yours is too much? Tim Dairyland Datsuns ---- "Schlegel wrote: ============= Nobody wants to save my 1968 Roadster? For Sale $1000 takes it all! (Plates NOT included) | 1968 Datsun Roadster SPL311-18910 R16 engine #61234, SUs with a 4 speed tranny. Sold Hardtop but I have the soft top mechanism. Thousands of dollars invested almost! Was running before parked according to the PO. Race ready including roll bar, slotted racing rims, and high performance hood pins! Everything will work once fixed or replaced GUARANTEED! All gauges reading to the left. Clock is correct twice a day. No carpet so nothing to vacuum! Original Red paint in some spots. Has been repainted black but it has faded a little. Has a few dings and shows some signs of wear and tear. Please keep in mind it is a 42 year old car! Must see to believe, I mean appreciate. A picture is worth a thousand words so here is about 73,000 of them. http://picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich/1968Datsun Rich Schlegel iamrockinrich at gmail.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From tputland at charter.net Tue Jun 1 13:12:24 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 12:12:24 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] save my roadster---edited kinda Message-ID: <20100601151224.LT9JJ.4076096.root@mp08> I don't think this went to the list Well, despite the attitude displayed toward me and my comment/situation, I will reply with out returning the favor....................... The part car for $500 I got from a guy who manages one of the part stores in Madison. He should have known what he had. I got another part car for $700 that was nearly complete as well; and it was a 69 2000 with fairly nice tear drop marker lights. I turned down a low windscreen 1600 part car that was complete and in decent shape. Seller wanted between $600 and $750--it was not a 67.5 btw. I turned it down as I didn't have the room at the time and low windscreen cars are to small for me so I don't want to get started with them as I will end up wanting to restore one. I have a lead on two more part cars, both complete, one 1600 and the other a 2000, both are high windscreen cars. Seller wants $1000 for them. I believe that there are extras with this sale as well. I will pursue this as some of the extras are NOS. Possibly delivered for gas $ only. I know of another car for sale under $1000 that runs. So, attitude asside, These prices seem to actually be more of the norm out here in the sticks. And I have NEVER complained about the prices the vendors want for what they have. Well, maybe brake parts. ;-) lol Tim Dairyland Datsuns From 9laser3 at bright.net Tue Jun 1 13:19:22 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 15:19:22 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Save my roadster? In-Reply-To: <008001cb01ad$539deda0$fad9c8e0$@net> References: <20100601105559.Y7EOY.4060796.root@mp08> <4C052DD6.1080504@socal.rr.com> <008001cb01ad$539deda0$fad9c8e0$@net> Message-ID: <005c01cb01bf$5894a8f0$09bdfad0$@net> -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Pete Peters Ahem...Datsun owners are frugal not cheap a$$. *************************************************** Ah Pete, ..... Sorry, but I'm a cheap a$$! That's how I ended up with my roadster in the first place. It was the only convertible sports car I could find for $1000 that I could drive home safely! Over the last 13+ years, I have spent a few more bucks on it, but I'm still a cheap a$$! (:-) Paul Ohio From roadster at astound.net Tue Jun 1 14:04:09 2010 From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 13:04:09 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] save my roadster---edited kinda In-Reply-To: <20100601151224.LT9JJ.4076096.root@mp08> References: <20100601151224.LT9JJ.4076096.root@mp08> Message-ID: <31AD587B-FFA2-40F8-969D-6AA533641C97@astound.net> I have run into a few deals over the years, and had to turn down some due to lack of space. Deals happen! I got a "parts" car for $500 that had'nt run in years, with a few boxes of spare parts. After towing it I cleaned up the carbs and it started right up. The gal reluctantly let it go because her husband wanted it out of the garage. Another parts car was given to me because the guy was moving and needed it gone. Another roadster had a "blown" 2000 engine and I got it for $175. It was a thrown bearing, easy to fix. These were roadsters. One deal I regret not taking was when an old man offered me two identical perfect 1951 Chevys with low mileage for free, because he could no longer drive them. Not everyone is driven by money, they just need to clear out stuff because of life changes. Fred - So.SF On Jun 1, 2010, at 12:12 PM, Tim wrote: > (snipped text) ... > So, attitude asside, These prices seem to actually be more of the norm out here > in the sticks. > > And I have NEVER complained about the prices the vendors want for what they > have. Well, maybe brake parts. ;-) lol > > Tim > Dairyland Datsuns From 9laser3 at bright.net Tue Jun 1 15:30:22 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 17:30:22 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] save my roadster---edited kinda In-Reply-To: <20100601151224.LT9JJ.4076096.root@mp08> References: <20100601151224.LT9JJ.4076096.root@mp08> Message-ID: <007101cb01d1$a5b13d80$f113b880$@net> I'm always looking for parts cars for Sloan Racing. Two cars come to mind when I think of great deals. We got a running 1600 for $100 and were surprised when we found out it came with a parts car. The other "deal" was listed as a 'early roadster'. Turned out to be a collection of parts, rusted and greasy, in several different garages and bedrooms. After gathering most of the major parts, I asked about the interior. First the dashboard came out of a bedroom, and I didn't really look at it. But when the seats came out, in fantastic condition, complete with 67.5 head rests, I knew it was a well spent $300. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 3:12 PM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] save my roadster---edited kinda I don't think this went to the list Well, despite the attitude displayed toward me and my comment/situation, I will reply with out returning the favor....................... The part car for $500 I got from a guy who manages one of the part stores in Madison. He should have known what he had. I got another part car for $700 that was nearly complete as well; and it was a 69 2000 with fairly nice tear drop marker lights. I turned down a low windscreen 1600 part car that was complete and in decent shape. Seller wanted between $600 and $750--it was not a 67.5 btw. I turned it down as I didn't have the room at the time and low windscreen cars are to small for me so I don't want to get started with them as I will end up wanting to restore one. I have a lead on two more part cars, both complete, one 1600 and the other a 2000, both are high windscreen cars. Seller wants $1000 for them. I believe that there are extras with this sale as well. I will pursue this as some of the extras are NOS. Possibly delivered for gas $ only. I know of another car for sale under $1000 that runs. So, attitude asside, These prices seem to actually be more of the norm out here in the sticks. And I have NEVER complained about the prices the vendors want for what they have. Well, maybe brake parts. ;-) lol Tim Dairyland Datsuns ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net From cookefam314 at gmail.com Tue Jun 1 17:07:13 2010 From: cookefam314 at gmail.com (Dave Cooke) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 18:07:13 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Baffled by Backfire Message-ID: During a recent road trip, I picked up an intermittent backfire thru the carbs. I found a bad plug wire & fouled distributor cap on my East Coast Dizzy, Dave Brisco sent out replacement parts for them both. I installed the cap & new wires today. Timing is still at 16 degrees BTDC, I cleaned the carbs, checked the dashpot oil & rest the fuel mixture. Balanced the carbs wiith a unisyn. And, I'm still getting a backfire thru both carbs. It's still a bit intermittent, mainly happens on deceleration up to a stop, and then again on acceleration after a stop. Doesn't seen to happen at all at high speeds. Could this be something else like a vacuum or exhaust leak? The exhaust note on acceleration sounds different to me now than before this all happened... Any help would be appreciated. -- Dave Cooke Roadster owner since '83 Lake in the Hills, IL Chicagoland Chapter of the Dairyland Datsuns From sandhoff at csus.edu Tue Jun 1 17:59:56 2010 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 16:59:56 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Baffled by Backfire In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4C053C8C.31896.1D8B01E@localhost> > During a recent road trip, I picked up an intermittent backfire thru > the carbs... I'm still getting a backfire thru both carbs. If the ignition timing is accurate (and you aren't getting cross fire from a defective cap or plug wires bundled together), I'd wager either slipped valve timing (unlikely) or a burned valve seat (more likely). But first, check the valve clearance to be sure you don't have one that's too tight! A compression check may be a quick way to spot something. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From ljordan704 at netscape.net Tue Jun 1 20:13:56 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 22:13:56 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Save my roadster? In-Reply-To: <7205D7C8DE0E724A8EBBB88675FBE8CC05C3164064@e07ms1.insideocsd.com> References: <7205D7C8DE0E724A8EBBB88675FBE8CC05C3164064@e07ms1.insideocsd.com> Message-ID: <8CCD010639800A8-20C8-60AF@webmail-m030.sysops.aol.com> Just part it out and get your money that way. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Schlegel, Richard To: 'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net' Sent: Tue, Jun 1, 2010 7:41 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Save my roadster? Nobody wants to save my 1968 Roadster? For Sale $1000 takes it all! (Plates NOT included) | 1968 Datsun Roadster SPL311-18910 R16 engine #61234, SUs with a 4 speed tranny. Sold Hardtop but I have the soft top mechanism. Thousands of dollars invested almost! Was running before parked according to the PO. Race ready including roll bar, slotted racing rims, and high performance hood pins! Everything will work once fixed or replaced GUARANTEED! All gauges reading to the left. Clock is correct twice a day. No carpet so nothing to vacuum! Original Red paint in some spots. Has been repainted black but it has faded a little. Has a few dings and shows some signs of wear and tear. Please keep in mind it is a 42 year old car! Must see to believe, I mean appreciate. A picture is worth a thousand words so here is about 73,000 of them. http://picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich/1968Datsun Rich Schlegel iamrockinrich at gmail.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From rksmith46 at hotmail.com Tue Jun 1 21:38:09 2010 From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 23:38:09 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Baffled by Backfire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hi dave, a backfire, typically, is a lean fuel condition. but i have seen a bad condenser cause backfiring (if you have elect. ign., disregard the last).also, ck. float levels, and ck. the metal fittings where the little hose connects the float chamber to the movable jet. ive seen a build up that partially blocks one or the other fitting. good luck, bob smith 69 srl 311 > Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 18:07:13 -0500 > From: cookefam314 at gmail.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Baffled by Backfire > > During a recent road trip, I picked up an intermittent backfire thru the > carbs. I found a bad plug wire & fouled distributor cap on my East Coast > Dizzy, Dave Brisco sent out replacement parts for them both. I installed the > cap & new wires today. Timing is still at 16 degrees BTDC, I cleaned the > carbs, checked the dashpot oil & rest the fuel mixture. Balanced the carbs > wiith a unisyn. And, I'm still getting a backfire thru both carbs. It's > still a bit intermittent, mainly happens on deceleration up to a stop, and > then again on acceleration after a stop. Doesn't seen to happen at all at > high speeds. > > Could this be something else like a vacuum or exhaust leak? The exhaust note > on acceleration sounds different to me now than before this all happened... > > Any help would be appreciated. > > -- > Dave Cooke > Roadster owner since '83 > Lake in the Hills, IL > Chicagoland Chapter of the Dairyland Datsuns > ________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID283 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 From tom at datsun2000.com Wed Jun 2 00:41:02 2010 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 23:41:02 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop In Portland For Sale Message-ID: I am preparing to move to Las Vegas in the near future. I have already moved the roadster to Las Vegas, but have a high windshield porthole hardtop hanging from the ceiling of my garage. It is in great condition as far as the fiberglass and windows are concerned. It does need new rubber all around the edges. I think I have rubber weatherstriping that might do the job. The two outside windshield clamps are mounted and I think I may have a spare center clamp if I look hard enough. . If are interested I am open to offers. I just need it to find a good home because I won't be using it in Las Vegas. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland, OR http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org GIVE ME MY FREEDOM, MY GUNS, AND MY MONEY..... OBAMA CAN KEEP THE CHANGE !!!! From stebharvey at ameritech.net Wed Jun 2 06:13:15 2010 From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 07:13:15 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Front and Rear Shock Replacement Message-ID: <003901cb024c$fb944780$f2bcd680$@net> Group, I purchased new front and rear shocks for my 70 1600 and am wondering if there is any "special" procedure to follow in the R&R? Thanks Steve From dato1500 at hotmail.com Wed Jun 2 08:55:23 2010 From: dato1500 at hotmail.com (Peter Jones) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 22:55:23 +0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Front and Rear Shock Replacement In-Reply-To: <003901cb024c$fb944780$f2bcd680$@net> References: <003901cb024c$fb944780$f2bcd680$@net> Message-ID: Use axle stands as these car hurt when the land on your chest. > From: stebharvey at ameritech.net > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 07:13:15 -0500 > Subject: [Roadsters] Front and Rear Shock Replacement > > Group, > > > > I purchased new front and rear shocks for my 70 1600 and am wondering if > there is any "special" procedure to follow in the R&R? > > > > Thanks > > > > Steve > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/dato1500 at hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Need a new place to live? Find it on Domain.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ From dboerst at yahoo.com Wed Jun 2 09:05:31 2010 From: dboerst at yahoo.com (David Boerst) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 08:05:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Anyone have a intake and Weber for sale Message-ID: <808711.7044.qm@web58605.mail.re3.yahoo.com> We are tired of the carbs on Amy's 1966. I have raised float level, lowered the float level, new metering rods, old metering rods......Will not start hot. My car a 1970 hit the key and instant start no matter cold hot in between. I have had it and multiply that 100 times with you know who. Anyone know of any parts, complete assemblies? Thanks From ljordan704 at netscape.net Wed Jun 2 09:54:43 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 11:54:43 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Anyone have a intake and Weber for sale In-Reply-To: <808711.7044.qm@web58605.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <808711.7044.qm@web58605.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CCD0830D22123F-1550-8850@webmail-d026.sysops.aol.com> So you checked floats, screens, needles, fuel bowl gaskets and hoses, carb body gaskets etc and no luck? That would be frustrating. Maybe another set could help to see if there is a start. Linda -----Original Message----- From: David Boerst To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Jun 2, 2010 8:05 am Subject: [Roadsters] Anyone have a intake and Weber for sale We are tired of the carbs on Amy's 1966. I have raised float level, lowered the float level, new metering rods, old metering rods......Will not start hot. My car a 1970 hit the key and instant start no matter cold hot in between. I have had it and multiply that 100 times with you know who. Anyone know of any parts, complete assemblies? Thanks ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From gboone70 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 2 10:28:43 2010 From: gboone70 at yahoo.com (Gary Boone) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 09:28:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Anyone have a intake and Weber for sale In-Reply-To: <8CCD0830D22123F-1550-8850@webmail-d026.sysops.aol.com> References: <808711.7044.qm@web58605.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <8CCD0830D22123F-1550-8850@webmail-d026.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <645939.87912.qm@web36308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It would suck if you went to all the expense and trouble of a carb change to find that your ignition system fails when hot. ----- Original Message ---- From: "ljordan704 at netscape.net" To: dboerst at yahoo.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, June 2, 2010 9:54:43 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Anyone have a intake and Weber for sale So you checked floats, screens, needles, fuel bowl gaskets and hoses, carb body gaskets etc and no luck? That would be frustrating. Maybe another set could help to see if there is a start. Linda -----Original Message----- From: David Boerst To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Jun 2, 2010 8:05 am Subject: [Roadsters] Anyone have a intake and Weber for sale We are tired of the carbs on Amy's 1966. I have raised float level, lowered the float level, new metering rods, old metering rods......Will not start hot. My car a 1970 hit the key and instant start no matter cold hot in between. I have had it and multiply that 100 times with you know who. Anyone know of any parts, complete assemblies? Thanks ________________________________________ From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Jun 2 10:37:57 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 09:37:57 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Anyone have a intake and Weber for sale In-Reply-To: <808711.7044.qm@web58605.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <808711.7044.qm@web58605.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000f01cb0271$f5772fa0$e0658ee0$@net> Complete ready-to-run SU's available from ZTherapy. Haven't used them, but know the guys and have heard only good reviews. http://www.ztherapy.com> Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Boerst Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:06 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Anyone have a intake and Weber for sale We are tired of the carbs on Amy's 1966. I have raised float level, lowered the float level, new metering rods, old metering rods......Will not start hot. My car a 1970 hit the key and instant start no matter cold hot in between. I have had it and multiply that 100 times with you know who. Anyone know of any parts, complete assemblies? Thanks ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Wed Jun 2 10:39:27 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 09:39:27 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Save my roadster? In-Reply-To: <8CCD010639800A8-20C8-60AF@webmail-m030.sysops.aol.com> References: , <7205D7C8DE0E724A8EBBB88675FBE8CC05C3164064@e07ms1.insideocsd.com>, <8CCD010639800A8-20C8-60AF@webmail-m030.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Richard, Having helped take the car apart - your ad is somewhat flippant -"thousands of dollars invested-almost" not to mention "clock correct twice a day". For me it is not a question of price, but I have nowhere to store it and no time to put it back together. Unless one is going to part the car out, a shame if it is complete, there enough projects lying around in various people's back yards - what would be the point of buying it - 'saving' a $1K car will cost a lot (considering the state of the body) fwiw > To: RSCHLEGEL at OCSD.COM; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 22:13:56 -0400 > From: ljordan704 at netscape.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Save my roadster? > > Just part it out and get your money that way. > Linda > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Schlegel, Richard > To: 'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net' > Sent: Tue, Jun 1, 2010 7:41 am > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Save my roadster? > > > Nobody wants to save my 1968 Roadster? > For Sale $1000 takes it all! (Plates NOT included) | 1968 Datsun Roadster > SPL311-18910 > R16 engine #61234, SUs with a 4 speed tranny. Sold Hardtop but I have the > soft > top mechanism. Thousands of dollars invested almost! Was running before > parked > according to the PO. Race ready including roll bar, slotted racing rims, and > high performance hood pins! Everything will work once fixed or replaced > GUARANTEED! All gauges reading to the left. Clock is correct twice a day. No > carpet so nothing to vacuum! Original Red paint in some spots. Has been > repainted black but it has faded a little. Has a few dings and shows some > signs of wear and tear. Please keep in mind it is a 42 year old car! > Must see to believe, I mean appreciate. A picture is worth a thousand words > so > here is about 73,000 of them. > http://picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich/1968Datsun > > Rich Schlegel > iamrockinrich at gmail.com > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne > t > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/granvillecomputing at hot mail.com From Walter.Peterson at cox.net Wed Jun 2 10:40:07 2010 From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter Peterson) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 09:40:07 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Where to get propper Return springs & Clevis pins for early 67 Brake/Clutch pedals. In-Reply-To: <31AD587B-FFA2-40F8-969D-6AA533641C97@astound.net> References: <20100601151224.LT9JJ.4076096.root@mp08> <31AD587B-FFA2-40F8-969D-6AA533641C97@astound.net> Message-ID: <003d01cb0272$4396ba70$cac42f50$@Peterson@cox.net> Anyone? I believe the Clevis pins should be 5/16" with an extra groove for the return spring to hang on to. Walt Peterson 67 is back on its feet this last weekend! From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Wed Jun 2 10:43:07 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 09:43:07 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun related sighting Message-ID: Valley Greek Festival - Memorial Day - going round in circles - accompanied by quite a few people and some greek music - doing quite a good job of dancing - one local Datsun Vendor or Greek ancestry. My opinion of the dancing might have been influenced by greek liquids Peter (Eliza) From tputland at charter.net Wed Jun 2 11:17:00 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 10:17:00 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Anyone have a intake and Weber for sale In-Reply-To: <000f01cb0271$f5772fa0$e0658ee0$@net> Message-ID: <20100602131701.P6ZBC.7080063.root@mp17> The carbs we put on last March were Ztherapy carbs. (I got them through Dean.) So far I have had no worries and the car is running great. Spend the little bit extra and put in new choke cables so you don't fight cable binding even though the choke is all the way in. Don't ask me how I know this......... Tim Dairyland Datsuns ---- Pete Peters wrote: ============= Complete ready-to-run SU's available from ZTherapy. Haven't used them, but know the guys and have heard only good reviews. http://www.ztherapy.com> Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Boerst Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:06 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Anyone have a intake and Weber for sale We are tired of the carbs on Amy's 1966. I have raised float level, lowered the float level, new metering rods, old metering rods......Will not start hot. My car a 1970 hit the key and instant start no matter cold hot in between. I have had it and multiply that 100 times with you know who. Anyone know of any parts, complete assemblies? Thanks ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From patrickcomitale at yahoo.com Wed Jun 2 18:26:06 2010 From: patrickcomitale at yahoo.com (P C) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 17:26:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Parting out '66 SPL 311 Message-ID: <550494.83259.qm@web114113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> From patrickcomitale at yahoo.com Wed Jun 2 18:38:16 2010 From: patrickcomitale at yahoo.com (P C) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 17:38:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] '66 SPL311 Message-ID: <263074.84437.qm@web114103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Located in Upstate NY Just starting to pull parts off it Parts already off the vehicle-- 1. Gas tank - No leaks. With filler neck and breather hose intact Make an offer/ possible trades Pulling eng, trans and underhood accessories this week, depending on the weather, so if you need any parts, just ask, and I'll update parts once they're pulled From dave at eastcoastroadster.com Wed Jun 2 20:16:31 2010 From: dave at eastcoastroadster.com (dave) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 22:16:31 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Anyone have a intake and Weber for sale In-Reply-To: <808711.7044.qm@web58605.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4974C78E308A4082ADBAA171EF59C0B6@delled48909442> Hi Dave, I have a set of dual downdraft Webers and the Cannon adapters, cost me $100.00, yours for the same. I haven't tried them and you would need to build linkage and go through the carbs. Might be more trouble than new SU's, but I'm sure you have your reasons and I won't pontificate. Another very cool alternative I'm thinking about is using a pair of single throat Mikuni's, designed to replace SU's. Here's one source. http://www.v-performance.com/products/air_fuel.html I'm thinking about it for my 64 with the U20 If you suspect the ignition, give me a call, glad to loan you a known good distributor or check yours, no charge just shipping. Dave Brisco East coast Roadster 908-591-9892 -----Original Message----- From: David Boerst [mailto:dboerst at yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 11:06 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Anyone have a intake and Weber for sale We are tired of the carbs on Amy's 1966. I have raised float level, lowered the float level, new metering rods, old metering rods......Will not start hot. My car a 1970 hit the key and instant start no matter cold hot in between. I have had it and multiply that 100 times with you know who. Anyone know of any parts, complete assemblies? Thanks From aultgc at att.net Wed Jun 2 20:45:17 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 21:45:17 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Front and Rear Shock Replacement References: <003901cb024c$fb944780$f2bcd680$@net> Message-ID: <1D8B7858103F4F02B9CC510A2242AE49@gaxp1> Steve, Depends on what shocks you bought. The rears shouldn't be an issue, but the fronts might. Stock front shocks were intended to be removed and installed through the hole in the lower support plate which bolts to the lower A-arms. Many replacements fit just fine. Konis, however, require that the front suspension be partially dismantled to get the new shocks in -- unless you want to grind away part of the support plate -- which I did not. Let me know whether yours fit through the hole, and, if so, you should be golden. If not, I'll send you the procedure I used. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Harvey" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 7:13 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Front and Rear Shock Replacement > Group, > > > > I purchased new front and rear shocks for my 70 1600 and am wondering if > there is any "special" procedure to follow in the R&R? > > > > Thanks > > > > Steve > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From domecone at yahoo.com Wed Jun 2 22:05:33 2010 From: domecone at yahoo.com (Jon Bergstrom) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 21:05:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Interior metal finishing Message-ID: <553981.2477.qm@web50103.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello, First email to group and I enjoy reading your strings. Question......Can anyone give me a good finish or polish technique for the metal on the center console. Over the years I have painted that section but I'm never happy with it. Also, any ideas for repainting the letters on the dash knobs. Thanks Jon M. 1969 2000 Roadster Owned since college=1978 Sacramento Area From stebharvey at ameritech.net Thu Jun 3 05:44:22 2010 From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 06:44:22 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Shock install update Message-ID: <000401cb0312$1c54df50$54fe9df0$@net> Group, I started the rear shock install and found a major problem. The upper shock bolts are secured to a curved tube that runs from side to side and is attached to the frame. The right side bolt doesn't rotate (I believe it shouldn't rotate) but where it exits the tubing the tubing metal has failed allowing the bolt to move up and down. The left side bolt is tight inside the tube. Rust appears to be the cause of the metal failure on the right side. Replacing the entire tube doesn't seem to be a viable solution at this point. I'm thinking that I can wire bush the tubing, fabricate a half round piece of metal with a hole to match the bolt diameter, slip it over the top bolt and wire weld the new piece of metal to the original tubing piece. I could also find a washer that has a matching I.D. to the bolt, bend it to match the tubing diameter and weld it to the tube. Any thoughts or help on this is appreciated. Steve Harvey From ljordan704 at netscape.net Thu Jun 3 08:23:34 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 10:23:34 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Interior metal finishing In-Reply-To: <553981.2477.qm@web50103.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <553981.2477.qm@web50103.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CCD13F7BEC7028-F80-8B5F@webmail-m012.sysops.aol.com> I think White Out has been used for the letters. You can polish the knobs, then apply and wipe off the excess. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Jon Bergstrom To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Jun 2, 2010 9:05 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Interior metal finishing Hello, First email to group and I enjoy reading your strings. Question......Can anyone give me a good finish or polish technique for the metal on the center console. Over the years I have painted that section but I'm never happy with it. Also, any ideas for repainting the letters on the dash knobs. Thanks Jon M. 1969 2000 Roadster Owned since college=1978 Sacramento Area ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Thu Jun 3 09:22:37 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 08:22:37 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Interior metal finishing In-Reply-To: <553981.2477.qm@web50103.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <553981.2477.qm@web50103.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: 1) I used flat white paint from a hobby supply store for the white bits2) which center console - the radio one of the armrest one - and which year? Peter > Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 21:05:33 -0700 > From: domecone at yahoo.com > To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Interior metal finishing > > Hello, > > First email to group and I enjoy reading your strings. > > Question......Can anyone give me a good finish or polish technique for the > metal on the center console. Over the years I have painted that section but I'm never happy with it. > > Also, any ideas for repainting the letters on the dash knobs. > > Thanks > > > Jon M. > 1969 2000 Roadster > Owned since college=1978 > Sacramento Area > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/granvillecomputing at hot mail.com From hmm_88 at comcast.net Thu Jun 3 09:28:44 2010 From: hmm_88 at comcast.net (hmm_88 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 15:28:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] 1965 Roadster for sale on Seattle area Craigslist Message-ID: <1112815317.4432321275578924098.JavaMail.root@sz0092a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/1768426189.html I do not know the owner or the car but take a look at the "fastback" roof! Harry Moore '64 SPL310 From mkiisupra at hotmail.com Thu Jun 3 10:17:43 2010 From: mkiisupra at hotmail.com (Eric Gillis) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 16:17:43 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] 1965 Roadster for sale on Seattle area Craigslist In-Reply-To: <1112815317.4432321275578924098.JavaMail.root@sz0092a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1112815317.4432321275578924098.JavaMail.root@sz0092a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Ahhhh, another fastback hardtop. #2 in 9 years I've seen. Me wants, me wants, me wants... The proportions are a bit 'off' but mild (very mild) flares may fix that. Eric G > Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 15:28:44 +0000 > From: hmm_88 at comcast.net > To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] 1965 Roadster for sale on Seattle area Craigslist > > http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/1768426189.html > > > > I do not know the owner or the car but take a look at the "fastback" roof! > > > > Harry Moore > > '64 SPL310 > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/mkiisupra at hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID283 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 From RWM at RWMann.com Thu Jun 3 10:19:09 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 12:19:09 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1965 Roadster for sale on Seattle area Craigslist In-Reply-To: <1112815317.4432321275578924098.JavaMail.root@sz0092a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1112815317.4432321275578924098.JavaMail.root@sz0092a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4C07D5FD.7020408@RWMann.com> This style has been sighted before, ex-Japan, IIRC. Looks a bit like the Cobra 'LeMans' hardtop. hmm_88 at comcast.net wrote: > http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/1768426189.html > > > > I do not know the owner or the car but take a look at the "fastback" roof! > > > > Harry Moore > > '64 SPL310 From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Jun 3 11:16:27 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 10:16:27 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Repainting knob letters (was "RE: Interior metal finishing") In-Reply-To: <8CCD13F7BEC7028-F80-8B5F@webmail-m012.sysops.aol.com> References: <553981.2477.qm@web50103.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <8CCD13F7BEC7028-F80-8B5F@webmail-m012.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <001201cb0340$80bcd3c0$82367b40$@net> Yup. I just used White Out on two knobs on my 411. The trick is getting the excess off. I used Goof Off. Took several tries. Far from perfect, but waaaaaay better than before. FWIW, the "W" knob was easier than the "L". Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ljordan704 at netscape.net Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 7:24 AM To: domecone at yahoo.com; Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interior metal finishing I think White Out has been used for the letters. You can polish the knobs, then apply and wipe off the excess. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Jon Bergstrom To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Jun 2, 2010 9:05 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Interior metal finishing [snip] Also, any ideas for repainting the letters on the dash knobs. Thanks Jon M. 1969 2000 Roadster Owned since college=1978 Sacramento Area From Brad at lustigconsultingllc.com Thu Jun 3 11:48:57 2010 From: Brad at lustigconsultingllc.com (Brad Lustig (brad@lustigconsultingllc.com)) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 13:48:57 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Repainting knob letters (was "RE: Interior metal finishing") In-Reply-To: <001201cb0340$80bcd3c0$82367b40$@net> References: <553981.2477.qm@web50103.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <8CCD13F7BEC7028-F80-8B5F@webmail-m012.sysops.aol.com> <001201cb0340$80bcd3c0$82367b40$@net> Message-ID: <191D00BEB7748342820D55C9DBF97EEE46F37A58C8@LCLLC-SERVER.lcllc.local> Maybe related, maybe not, but I colored in the engravings on my wife's gun for her (she wanted a pink gun, pink engravings would have to do). Anyway, the first attempt was to melt a crayon and rub it into the engravings, then rub the excess with tissue or paper towel. Worked well, but with the heat of the gun, it would eventually melt out. What is in there now is a little more appropriate for a chic gun, fingernail polish. Paint it in, scrape the excess off with stiff paper, let dry and then wipe off the excess with Hoppes gun cleaner. I tried acetone but it was too strong and ended pulling most of the polish out. By the way, if you saw my wife, you'd never expect her to be someone that is packing. 5'2" and 100lbs in a dress suit. Brad -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:16 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] Repainting knob letters (was "RE: Interior metal finishing") Yup. I just used White Out on two knobs on my 411. The trick is getting the excess off. I used Goof Off. Took several tries. Far from perfect, but waaaaaay better than before. FWIW, the "W" knob was easier than the "L". Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ljordan704 at netscape.net Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 7:24 AM To: domecone at yahoo.com; Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interior metal finishing I think White Out has been used for the letters. You can polish the knobs, then apply and wipe off the excess. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Jon Bergstrom To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Jun 2, 2010 9:05 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Interior metal finishing [snip] Also, any ideas for repainting the letters on the dash knobs. Thanks Jon M. 1969 2000 Roadster Owned since college=1978 Sacramento Area ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/brad at lustigconsultingl lc.com From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Thu Jun 3 12:25:59 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 11:25:59 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1/18 Scale Diecast Roadster Message-ID: Just found this site and model - why oh why is it ALWAYS the 2000 SRL and not the lowly little SPL - NOT Fair - but looks like nice - and 1/18 too - not cheap - but heyhttp://www.carmodel.net/start.php?REFUU1VOPDs+TVJDLS1hbGwtMC0zMC0xLTA8Oj48 Oz48Oj48Oj48Oj4tMS08Oj4w Peter (TOAD SAN) From AlanW at dprinc.com Thu Jun 3 13:01:49 2010 From: AlanW at dprinc.com (Alan Watt) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 12:01:49 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1/18 Scale Diecast Roadster In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4EDB5C49AFCBCE43A501968FB08956B62719DBFA71@EXCHANGE07.dprinc.com> I just received my from a local hobby shop as a special order and I love it. Looks just like the real one I have in my garage except for the right hand drive. Alan 67.5 SPL -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of peter harrison Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 11:26 AM To: datsun Subject: [Roadsters] 1/18 Scale Diecast Roadster Just found this site and model - why oh why is it ALWAYS the 2000 SRL and not the lowly little SPL - NOT Fair - but looks like nice - and 1/18 too - not cheap - but heyhttp://www.carmodel.net/start.php?REFUU1VOPDs+TVJDLS1hbGwtMC0zMC0xLTA8Oj48 Oz48Oj48Oj48Oj4tMS08Oj4w Peter (TOAD SAN) ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/alanw at dprinc.com From printner at gmail.com Thu Jun 3 13:05:27 2010 From: printner at gmail.com (Tim Waltz) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 13:05:27 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] 1/18 Scale Diecast Roadster In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00f601cb034f$bd4cfc70$37e6f550$@com> Has anyone actually seen one in person? I know they've been taking orders for months. They were originally supposed to ship in April--I'm pretty sure it's now June and no cars Tim -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of peter harrison Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:26 PM To: datsun Subject: [Roadsters] 1/18 Scale Diecast Roadster Just found this site and model - why oh why is it ALWAYS the 2000 SRL and not the lowly little SPL - NOT Fair - but looks like nice - and 1/18 too - not cheap - but heyhttp://www.carmodel.net/start.php?REFUU1VOPDs+TVJDLS1hbGwtMC0zMC0xLTA8Oj4 8 Oz48Oj48Oj48Oj4tMS08Oj4w Peter (TOAD SAN) From tputland at charter.net Thu Jun 3 13:09:35 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 12:09:35 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1/18 Scale Diecast Roadster In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20100603150935.C0YR1.4188566.root@mp08> What currency is that? -- ---- peter harrison wrote: ============= Just found this site and model - why oh why is it ALWAYS the 2000 SRL and not the lowly little SPL - NOT Fair - but looks like nice - and 1/18 too - not cheap - but heyhttp://www.carmodel.net/start.php?REFUU1VOPDs+TVJDLS1hbGwtMC0zMC0xLTA8Oj48 Oz48Oj48Oj48Oj4tMS08Oj4w Peter (TOAD SAN) ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From roadster at astound.net Thu Jun 3 13:16:26 2010 From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 12:16:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Interior metal finishing In-Reply-To: <553981.2477.qm@web50103.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <553981.2477.qm@web50103.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <96D6F5C6-E190-4D10-A258-AE9C7284FDE7@astound.net> If you won't take it to a specialist, You can try electroplating yourself. Not for everyone, have'nt tried it myself on these parts but have done it on other parts. First take the parts apart, then clean them, lightly sand if necessary to get a satin finish. Then use a tin-zinc electroplating kit to apply the finish, and then polish with a metal polish compound. when done, it looks like chrome. Eastwood sells these kits. Fred - So.SF On Jun 2, 2010, at 9:05 PM, Jon Bergstrom wrote: > Hello, > > First email to group and I enjoy reading your strings. > > Question......Can anyone give me a good finish or polish technique for the > metal on the center console. Over the years I have painted that section but I'm never happy with it. > > Also, any ideas for repainting the letters on the dash knobs. > > Thanks > > > Jon M. > 1969 2000 Roadster > Owned since college=1978 > Sacramento Area From d_kroninger at hotmail.com Thu Jun 3 13:31:53 2010 From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 14:31:53 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 1/18 Scale Diecast Roadster In-Reply-To: <20100603150935.C0YR1.4188566.root@mp08> References: , <20100603150935.C0YR1.4188566.root@mp08> Message-ID: I believe that is Euro. You can get them from the maker. Listed as available. http://www.autoartmodels.com/product.web.Showroom.do Dan > Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 12:09:35 -0700 > From: tputland at charter.net > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; granvillecomputing at hotmail.com > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1/18 Scale Diecast Roadster > > What currency is that? > -- > > > > ---- peter harrison wrote: > > ============= > Just found this site and model - why oh why is it ALWAYS the 2000 SRL and not > the lowly little SPL - NOT Fair - but looks like nice - and 1/18 too - not > cheap - but > heyhttp://www.carmodel.net/start.php?REFUU1VOPDs+TVJDLS1hbGwtMC0zMC0xLTA8Oj48 > Oz48Oj48Oj48Oj4tMS08Oj4w > Peter (TOAD SAN) _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From AlanW at dprinc.com Thu Jun 3 13:33:24 2010 From: AlanW at dprinc.com (Alan Watt) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 12:33:24 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1/18 Scale Diecast Roadster In-Reply-To: <00f601cb034f$bd4cfc70$37e6f550$@com> References: <00f601cb034f$bd4cfc70$37e6f550$@com> Message-ID: <4EDB5C49AFCBCE43A501968FB08956B62719DBFAF7@EXCHANGE07.dprinc.com> As of last week Bridgetown Hobbies in Portland, Oregon had another one (white) on their shelf for sale. You can find them in the interweb. - Alan -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Waltz Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:05 PM To: 'datsun' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1/18 Scale Diecast Roadster Has anyone actually seen one in person? I know they've been taking orders for months. They were originally supposed to ship in April--I'm pretty sure it's now June and no cars Tim -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of peter harrison Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:26 PM To: datsun Subject: [Roadsters] 1/18 Scale Diecast Roadster Just found this site and model - why oh why is it ALWAYS the 2000 SRL and not the lowly little SPL - NOT Fair - but looks like nice - and 1/18 too - not cheap - but heyhttp://www.carmodel.net/start.php?REFUU1VOPDs+TVJDLS1hbGwtMC0zMC0xLTA8Oj4 8 Oz48Oj48Oj48Oj4tMS08Oj4w Peter (TOAD SAN) ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/alanw at dprinc.com From 9laser3 at bright.net Thu Jun 3 15:01:37 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 17:01:37 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1965 Roadster for sale on Seattle area Craigslist In-Reply-To: <1112815317.4432321275578924098.JavaMail.root@sz0092a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1112815317.4432321275578924098.JavaMail.root@sz0092a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <000001cb035f$f6b5ff10$e421fd30$@net> Les out at Classic datsun motorsports tried one of those 'fastback' hard tops on his race roadster. Worked great until it fell off! Paul -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of hmm_88 at comcast.net Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 11:29 AM To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] 1965 Roadster for sale on Seattle area Craigslist http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/1768426189.html I do not know the owner or the car but take a look at the "fastback" roof! Harry Moore '64 SPL310 ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net From csp541983rx7 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 3 15:19:53 2010 From: csp541983rx7 at yahoo.com (steve newby) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 14:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] re knobs Message-ID: <127537.16273.qm@web120503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> On the knob issue a system that works fairly well is the following, Take the knob off the car (small straight screwdriver for the set screw on most) clean thuroughly, use an old tooth brush to get down in the cracks. Buy some sign painters enamel, dries fairly slowly and cleans up with turpentine if you screw up. Use a model paint brush to apply the paint to the letter areas, then use a cloth that does not have allot of knapp, and old t shirt works good, to wipe off the excess paint, it will last allot longer than white out, and will more closely match the original hue. if you gently stroke across the letter/ picture (depending on year) you will remove the paint on the surface without scouring out the paint in the indentation. this method also works well for the side emblems on the car. a q tip LIGHTLY wet with turpentine applied gently will remove excess nicely, not too much as the white will run. On the door aluminium, if its beat too much to salvage using aluminum wheel cleaner and a stiff bristle brush, you CAN paint them with aluminium spray paint and very closely match the original finish, not super durable, but easily re done. From keithddowning at yahoo.com Thu Jun 3 15:22:50 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 14:22:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 1/18 Scale Diecast Roadster In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <279563.69790.qm@web83306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Yes, AutoArt just made it availble. I sent my wife a link to it as a strong hint for a Father's Day gift (for me). Hopefully, she took it to heart. ________________________________ From: peter harrison To: datsun Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 11:25:59 AM Subject: [Roadsters] 1/18 Scale Diecast Roadster Just found this site and model - why oh why is it ALWAYS the 2000 SRL and not the lowly little SPL - NOT Fair - but looks like nice - and 1/18 too - not cheap - but heyhttp://www.carmodel.net/start.php?REFUU1VOPDs+TVJDLS1hbGwtMC0zMC0xLTA8Oj48 Oz48Oj48Oj48Oj4tMS08Oj4w Peter (TOAD SAN) ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.com From Mtbdavid2 at aol.com Thu Jun 3 15:25:11 2010 From: Mtbdavid2 at aol.com (Mtbdavid2 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 17:25:11 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] 1968 Datsun Roadster 2000 for sale Message-ID: <7a799.2008be1c.393977b7@aol.com> After much thought and reluctance I am selling my beloved 1968 Datsun Roadster 2000 with solex carbs and B cam. Motor-2 liter Transmission-5spd rebuilt 44 solex carbs, heat shield, new insulators, new and used ITG air filters and 70mm velocity stacks performance B cam 4 point roll bar with new padded black cover original seat belts with hard to find optional shoulder belts. no cracks on dash cover all gauges work including clock complete reupholstered intererior in grey nice pioneer stereo system with amp, 6 disk CD changer, 4 speakers in car and one sub woofer sport wheels and steering wheel and fairly new tires but are cracking on side wall from sun 2.5" exhaust pipe, flex pipe off of new ceramic coated header, glass pipe and large chrome tip electronic distributer and new coil and spark plug wires rechromed headlight buckets and front grill and badge straightened and buffed stainless steel side molding and new stainless steel side molding clips new chrome soft top snaps new front air dam new competition shocks, front springs and thicker front sway bar COMPLETE NEW TIMING CHAINS, GEARS AND TENSIONORS INSTALLED RECENTLY fairly new canvas top and also have original hard top I am sure I am missing more upgrades I have made after owning the car for 12 years.. Spare Parts: I also have a complete spare motor (includes head and timing gears and chains) manifold and SU carbs spare 5 spd tranny working perfectly spare set of solex carbs which will need to be rebuilt and solex manifold, new solex isolators and gaskets will include all spare parts listed above plus a box of spare parts for an extra $1k $10,000 or $11k with ALL spare parts If interested reply or call David at 510-552-0529. I have two huge folders with all receipts and can provide more pictures if you are interested. Lots of pictures located at _http://s1001.photobucket.com/home/mtbdavid/allalbums_ (http://s1001.photobucket.com/home/mtbdavid/allalbums) Located in Fremont, CA From patrickcomitale at yahoo.com Thu Jun 3 17:15:54 2010 From: patrickcomitale at yahoo.com (P C) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 16:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 1966 spl311 parting out Message-ID: <566760.38207.qm@web114118.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Parts pulled-- 1. Fuel tank with filler neck and. breather hose - no leaks 2. Fuel sending unit 3. Dash gauges - some better than others 4. Glove box and door 9/10 5. Heater blower 6. Blower rubber boot - 90 deg. elbow 8/10 7. Seat belts driver and pass 7/10 8. Taillight bezels and housings - some better than others 9. Midpope resonator - not really sure if it's oem, but was included with car. 10. Pretty much everything under the hood is in real good shape and ready to be pulled. I'd love to sell the whole drivetrain complete, but will easily part out. Let me know what you might need. Thanks, Patrick From poontang188 at hotmail.com Thu Jun 3 17:51:59 2010 From: poontang188 at hotmail.com (Scott Sheeler) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 19:51:59 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1500 Floor mats Message-ID: Anyone on the List know a vendor for 1500 floor mats? Pls contact me off list. Thanks. Scott Sheeler http://thedatsunroadsterbook.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 From dave at eastcoastroadster.com Thu Jun 3 19:18:05 2010 From: dave at eastcoastroadster.com (dave) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 21:18:05 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Repainting knob letters (was "RE: Interior metalfinishing") In-Reply-To: <191D00BEB7748342820D55C9DBF97EEE46F37A58C8@LCLLC-SERVER.lcllc.local> Message-ID: <2E75307AA22745B9AB66D5FA4EBA9E3C@delled48909442> I use Jig head paint for gunsights, (fluorescent pink or orange), made for coloring leadhead fish hooks. It's a thick drying enamel that would fill the letters very well. You may be able to apply with a paperclip or a very thin brush, it's very similar to nail olish and smells horrible. Available in most tackle shops. Wipes off metal while wet, but I would try it on scrap plastic first. Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Repainting knob letters (was "RE: Interior metalfinishing") Maybe related, maybe not, but I colored in the engravings on my wife's gun for her (she wanted a pink gun, pink engravings would have to do). Anyway, the first attempt was to melt a crayon and rub it into the engravings, then rub the excess with tissue or paper towel. Worked well, but with the heat of the gun, it would eventually melt out. What is in there now is a little more appropriate for a chic gun, fingernail polish. Paint it in, scrape the excess off with stiff paper, let dry and then wipe off the excess with Hoppes gun cleaner. I tried acetone but it was too strong and ended pulling most of the polish out. By the way, if you saw my wife, you'd never expect her to be someone that is packing. 5'2" and 100lbs in a dress suit. Brad From aultgc at att.net Thu Jun 3 19:45:35 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 20:45:35 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Shock install update References: <000401cb0312$1c54df50$54fe9df0$@net> Message-ID: <74A024604D25456DBD17D392694A5110@gaxp1> Steve, You're right, the "bolts" should not rotate. They're really captive bolts, or studs, welded into the metal tube. You should be able to get the right side nut and lockwasher off. You could consider some sort of curved reinforcement plates -- front and rear -- where the left side bolt mounts. If the stud/bolt has rusted loose, I think there is a good chance the metal tube is weak in that area. Reinforcement, however, would likely place the shock mounting slightly off (owing to the thickness of whatever reinforcement is present), and I have no clue as to whether that would be significant. I don't remember whether that tube does anything other than serve as a mounting point for the shocks. I don't think it does. If not, you could consider cutting the tube off a donor car, and welding it into yours. I didn't get under my car to check this, so what I suggest may not be feasible. But, from the diagram in the parts book, it appears to be. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Harvey" To: Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 6:44 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Shock install update > Group, > > > > I started the rear shock install and found a major problem. The upper > shock > bolts are secured to a curved tube that runs from side to side and is > attached to the frame. The right side bolt doesn't rotate (I believe it > shouldn't rotate) but where it exits the tubing the tubing metal has > failed > allowing the bolt to move up and down. The left side bolt is tight inside > the tube. Rust appears to be the cause of the metal failure on the right > side. > > > > Replacing the entire tube doesn't seem to be a viable solution at this > point. I'm thinking that I can wire bush the tubing, fabricate a half > round > piece of metal with a hole to match the bolt diameter, slip it over the > top > bolt and wire weld the new piece of metal to the original tubing piece. I > could also find a washer that has a matching I.D. to the bolt, bend it to > match the tubing diameter and weld it to the tube. Any thoughts or help on > this is appreciated. > > > > Steve Harvey > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From aultgc at att.net Thu Jun 3 19:50:44 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 20:50:44 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Interior metal finishing References: <553981.2477.qm@web50103.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <8CCD13F7BEC7028-F80-8B5F@webmail-m012.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <6A2CEDF843E141B78C278CA5A716B1D3@gaxp1> Hobby shop white enamel should work as well, followed by polising the upper surfaces. Should be more durable, also. Don't know much about the console surrounds on high-windshield cars, but I suspect it was originally chromed, then perhaps portions were bead-blasted to dull the surface. That's what was done with the ash tray surrounds on low-windshield cars. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interior metal finishing > I think White Out has been used for the letters. You can polish the knobs, > then apply and wipe off the excess. > Linda > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Bergstrom > To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Wed, Jun 2, 2010 9:05 pm > Subject: [Roadsters] Interior metal finishing > > > Hello, > > First email to group and I enjoy reading your strings. > > Question......Can anyone give me a good finish or polish technique for the > metal on the center console. Over the years I have painted that section > but > I'm > never happy with it. > > Also, any ideas for repainting the letters on the dash knobs. > > Thanks > > > Jon M. > 1969 2000 Roadster > Owned since college=1978 > Sacramento Area > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne > t > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From aultgc at att.net Thu Jun 3 20:07:21 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 21:07:21 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 1/18 Scale Diecast Roadster References: , <20100603150935.C0YR1.4188566.root@mp08> Message-ID: <629E066ADEF74CC5946FE2EEF9EC9E9D@gaxp1> The website says "US$114.95". That's "US dollars", Yankee greenbacks, not Euros. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Kroninger" To: "Tim Putland" ; "Datsun Mailing List" ; Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1/18 Scale Diecast Roadster >I believe that is Euro. > > > > You can get them from the maker. Listed as available. > > > > http://www.autoartmodels.com/product.web.Showroom.do > > > > Dan > >> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 12:09:35 -0700 >> From: tputland at charter.net >> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; granvillecomputing at hotmail.com >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1/18 Scale Diecast Roadster >> >> What currency is that? >> -- >> >> >> >> ---- peter harrison wrote: >> >> ============= >> Just found this site and model - why oh why is it ALWAYS the 2000 SRL and > not >> the lowly little SPL - NOT Fair - but looks like nice - and 1/18 too - >> not >> cheap - but >> > heyhttp://www.carmodel.net/start.php?REFUU1VOPDs+TVJDLS1hbGwtMC0zMC0xLTA8Oj48 >> Oz48Oj48Oj48Oj4tMS08Oj4w >> Peter (TOAD SAN) > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL > :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From tputland at charter.net Thu Jun 3 20:21:39 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 19:21:39 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] HERB IS HOME!!! Message-ID: <20100603222139.0M58A.1889437.root@mp20> YEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! WOOOOOHOOOOOOO!!!!!!! WELCOME HOME HERB! HOW WAS THE TRIP???? HOW ARE THE LOCAL CLASSIC DATSUN AFICIONADOS IN THE HOMELAND???? ALL ARE WELL I HOPE!!!!!!!!!!! WE WANT PICTURES AND A TRIP RECAP BEFORE JOKES!!!!!! AGAIN, WELCOME HOME!!!!!!!!!! sry for the caps.........i am overly excitable tonight..............burp. exsqueeze me. tim dairyland datsuns From Brad at lustigconsultingllc.com Thu Jun 3 21:13:46 2010 From: Brad at lustigconsultingllc.com (Brad Lustig (brad@lustigconsultingllc.com)) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 23:13:46 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1/18 Scale Diecast Roadster In-Reply-To: <629E066ADEF74CC5946FE2EEF9EC9E9D@gaxp1> References: , <20100603150935.C0YR1.4188566.root@mp08> <629E066ADEF74CC5946FE2EEF9EC9E9D@gaxp1> Message-ID: <8DF1DBD1-83D5-4729-8FC2-9F03E6328C1A@lustigconsultingllc.com> The original post had a link to a site with Euros Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:27 PM, "Gary and Cindy Ault" wrote: > The website says "US$114.95". That's "US dollars", Yankee > greenbacks, not > Euros. > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Kroninger" > To: "Tim Putland" ; "Datsun Mailing List" > ; > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 2:31 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1/18 Scale Diecast Roadster > > >> I believe that is Euro. >> >> >> >> You can get them from the maker. Listed as available. >> >> >> >> http://www.autoartmodels.com/product.web.Showroom.do >> >> >> >> Dan >> >>> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 12:09:35 -0700 >>> From: tputland at charter.net >>> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; granvillecomputing at hotmail.com >>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1/18 Scale Diecast Roadster >>> >>> What currency is that? >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> ---- peter harrison wrote: >>> >>> ============= >>> Just found this site and model - why oh why is it ALWAYS the 2000 >>> SRL and >> not >>> the lowly little SPL - NOT Fair - but looks like nice - and 1/18 >>> too - >>> not >>> cheap - but >>> >> heyhttp://www.carmodel.net/start.php?REFUU1VOPDs >> +TVJDLS1hbGwtMC0zMC0xLTA8Oj48 >>> Oz48Oj48Oj48Oj4tMS08Oj4w >>> Peter (TOAD SAN) >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your >> inbox. >> http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL >> :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 >> ________________________________________ >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/brad at lustigconsultingl lc.com From graemes at internode.on.net Thu Jun 3 23:50:36 2010 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:20:36 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] 1/18 Scale Diecast Roadster In-Reply-To: <8DF1DBD1-83D5-4729-8FC2-9F03E6328C1A@lustigconsultingllc.com> References: , <20100603150935.C0YR1.4188566.root@mp08><629E066ADEF74CC5946FE2EEF9EC9E9D@gaxp1> <8DF1DBD1-83D5-4729-8FC2-9F03E6328C1A@lustigconsultingllc.com> Message-ID: <6B023CDF728549938DCA0BF09FEBD79D@desktop> Here is is the one I bought on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/DATSUN-FAIRLADY-2000-SR311-white-Autoart-diecast-1-18 -/350343333787?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Diecast_Vehicles&hash=item519217079b Sorry, tiny url wouldn't work! I made them an offer an got it below $90US. Unfortunately, due to shortage of stocks, it was only shipped on the 2 of June. I hope to receive it in a week or so. Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1/18 Scale Diecast Roadster From roadster68 at shaw.ca Fri Jun 4 09:19:06 2010 From: roadster68 at shaw.ca (Larry Dziuba) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 09:19:06 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Vegas fun References: <4681F4A6-EE48-4267-8F97-309FE1BC37D9@roadrunner.com> <8CCCCFD15D17973-23B0-14826@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <5D1A8BE7D4EA4BE88296B6F2951D60D8@useravjfzd6udp> Unless it's a rash! Larry. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Vegas fun > What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas??? > > Linda > LOL > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vlaury at roadrunner.com > To: Datsun Roadsters > Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 8:39 pm > Subject: [Roadsters] Vegas fun > > > Just had a tour of a private car collection. > > Didn't catch the owners name. A non-descipt building in an industrial park > was > a treasure-trove. All special code Mopars. A little too much for my > sensiblities. Hemi Cudas, Challengers, Roadrunners Datona chargers, > Superbirds > et al. > > After the first few quarter million dollar 60's and 70's super low > production > cars, I kinda got the feeling that this guy is just a show-off. I mean, if > you > have a 68 hemi GTX, you're pretty cool. If you have 6 of them, i'm going > to be > a little put-off. > > Plus that, he wasn't impressed with my roadster, so F him, right? > > My only story so far I can repeat in polite company > > Datsunvic on tour > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.net > > > = > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadster68 at shaw.ca From ljordan704 at netscape.net Fri Jun 4 09:22:29 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 11:22:29 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Vegas fun In-Reply-To: <5D1A8BE7D4EA4BE88296B6F2951D60D8@useravjfzd6udp> References: <4681F4A6-EE48-4267-8F97-309FE1BC37D9@roadrunner.com> <8CCCCFD15D17973-23B0-14826@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com> <5D1A8BE7D4EA4BE88296B6F2951D60D8@useravjfzd6udp> Message-ID: <8CCD210E1807BF4-216C-31B4@webmail-d037.sysops.aol.com> LOL -----Original Message----- From: Larry Dziuba To: ljordan704 at netscape.net; vlaury at roadrunner.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, Jun 4, 2010 8:19 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Vegas fun Unless it's a rash! Larry. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Vegas fun > What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas??? > > Linda > LOL > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vlaury at roadrunner.com > To: Datsun Roadsters > Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 8:39 pm > Subject: [Roadsters] Vegas fun > > > Just had a tour of a private car collection. > > Didn't catch the owners name. A non-descipt building in an industrial park > was > a treasure-trove. All special code Mopars. A little too much for my > sensiblities. Hemi Cudas, Challengers, Roadrunners Datona chargers, > Superbirds > et al. > > After the first few quarter million dollar 60's and 70's super low > production > cars, I kinda got the feeling that this guy is just a show-off. I mean, if > you > have a 68 hemi GTX, you're pretty cool. If you have 6 of them, i'm going > to be > a little put-off. > > Plus that, he wasn't impressed with my roadster, so F him, right? > > My only story so far I can repeat in polite company > > Datsunvic on tour > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.net > > > = > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadster68 at shaw.ca From tom at datsun2000.com Fri Jun 4 10:53:14 2010 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 09:53:14 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Repainting knob letters (was "RE: Interior metalfinishing") Message-ID: This is about the way I applied new paint to my knobs. I purchased a small bottle of white enamel from a hobby shop along with a thin brush. You won't have much luck keeping the paint inside of the depressions for the letters, but it wipes right off and leaves the paint in the letter. Several years later my knobs still show clear and sharp text. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Waiting for me in Las Vegas for now Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org Any volunteers to take over the NOWROC web site? I will still host if needed. On 6/3/2010 6:18:05 PM, dave (dave at eastcoastroadster.com) wrote: > I use Jig head paint for gunsights, (fluorescent pink or orange), made > for > coloring leadhead fish hooks. > It's a thick drying enamel that would fil From tom at datsun2000.com Fri Jun 4 11:38:32 2010 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:38:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] SHASTA REGISTRATION FORMS ARE POSTED ON NOWROC Message-ID: I have posted the 2010 registration forms for the Mt. Shasta meet July 10th (events on both 9 & 10) on the nowroc.org web site. This meet just seems to get better and better each year. This year there is a lot of snow on the mountain. I drove Mr. Hyde through Mt. Shasta two weekends ago and there was some snow along the road in places as you head from Mt. Shasta towards Susanville. The scenery was spectacular this year. Don't miss out. If you have never attended this meet, or did not receive a form in the mail you can download the form here and send it to Phyllis. You will also find information and links to motels in the area. The host motel is clearly marked if you want to try to register there. ================ Don't forget that the Canby meet in Canby, Oregon is next weekend. You will find information about this meet on the same events page as the Shasta meet is posted on. http://www.nowroc.org/events/ Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org From alvingogi at hotmail.com Fri Jun 4 13:19:53 2010 From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 19:19:53 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] South Bay Caravan to the Historic Races/TurnZ Message-ID: If anyone would like to join a caravan of Nissan/Datsuns to the Historics event we are meeting at ZCarGarage at 7:30am Sunday 140 Archer StSan Jose, CA 95112 see you there! Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID2832 6::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 From tomuo at comcast.net Fri Jun 4 21:44:17 2010 From: tomuo at comcast.net (Tom Duffy) Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 20:44:17 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Repainting knob letters (was "RE: Interior metalfinishing") In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C09C811.3080504@comcast.net> Same here. You can also use a toothpick instead of a brush, which is slower, but makes it easier to keep the paint in the lines. Tom '68 1600 in Sunnyvale with smart new Tires. On 2010/06/04 9:53, Tom Hendricksen wrote: > This is about the way I applied new paint to my knobs. I purchased a small > bottle of white enamel from a hobby shop along with a thin brush. You won't > have much luck keeping the paint inside of the depressions for the letters, > but it wipes right off and leaves the paint in the letter. Several years > later my knobs still show clear and sharp text. > > Tom > 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Waiting for me in Las Vegas for now > Portland > http://www.datsun2000.com > http://www.nowroc.org Any volunteers to take over the NOWROC web site? I > will still host if needed. > > On 6/3/2010 6:18:05 PM, dave (dave at eastcoastroadster.com) wrote: > >> I use Jig head paint for gunsights, (fluorescent pink or orange), made >> for >> coloring leadhead fish hooks. >> It's a thick drying enamel that would fil >> > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tomuo at comcast.net From stebharvey at ameritech.net Sat Jun 5 09:20:48 2010 From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 10:20:48 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel sending unit adjustment Message-ID: <000701cb04c2$ad771460$08653d20$@net> My 1970 1600 fuel gauge has always given the wrong fuel level and I would like to try and adjust the sending unit to give an accurate reading. When I fill up the tank the gauge reads between > and full. When the gauge reaches the first E marking I still have around 4 to 5 gallons of fuel in the tank. I removed the sender and tested it with my ohm meter and I do get a variation as I move the float so the sender is functioning. There is a small straight slot screw in a round brass piece on the swivel shaft of the sender and I assume that this screw would allow an adjustment/calibration of the sender. Has anyone attempted this adjustment and if so, in what direction/rotation should I move the round brass piece? Im going to reassemble the sender on the car and go and fill up the tank before I start any adjustments. Thanks Steve Harvey Milwaukee From ronnie.day at gmail.com Sat Jun 5 10:49:41 2010 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 11:49:41 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT - New web site Message-ID: I've been posting Mitty pictures on my Facebook page but realized that a lot of people who would want to see them aren't on Facebook. So I set up a photo site at . The site is definitely a work in progress with new pictures and tweaks going on constantly. Right now I'm working my way through the rest of my Mitty shots, but I'll add an Air Show Group soon. If you want access to the Family Group, contact me directly. That'll be kid's stuff, reunions, etc. -- Ron From alvingogi at hotmail.com Sun Jun 6 19:27:19 2010 From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 01:27:19 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] TurnZ/Historics pictures Message-ID: What a beautiful day to be at the track! Big thanks to ZONC and MotoringJStyle for putting on a great "Turn Z" event Big thanks to Dan and Hannah Philbin for an absolutely killer parking corral for the Datsuns We left ZCarGarage with 8 cars, when we arrived at will call several roadsters also showed up and we made our way to Turn 7" our 67.5 SPL http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2421627350103240641LKIIkP David Premo's 67.5 SRL http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2408862360103240641ZWdRcV Dandridge's '68 SPL http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2067945270103240641vvXVRt And Eric's '69 SPL http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2284957290103240641JXQQyP The 4 of us were actually escorted to turnZ by an Infineon ring taxi, felt like we were in a pageant :lol: We were treated to paved parking lot, with a superb view of the track. http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2861576840103240641azRmY I counted 40+ cars towards the end of the day, great turnout! Eddie Wu also showed up with his '66 SPL/SR20: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2374035580103240641YlmihQ And of course Dan Philbin's pretty 67.5 SRL: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2283682420103240641WRHOeh There were 2 red roadsters, sorry I didn't get your names: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2032600820103240641vRREbp http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2125145820103240641udggqn There were a few 510s and a bunch of 240z cars, including my friend Lou's RHD 240z with new custom offset Panasports and 255 tires! http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2805683790103240641KNjDEn We walked through the paddock to see all of the machines, and caught a few races with John Morton behind the wheel of scarab and Sunbeam Tiger http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2138030490103240641qbzQnG We left early and missed the parade lap so please tell me how it went! Full album:http://rides.webshots.com/album/577889190HqZvWW Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID2832 6::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sun Jun 6 22:55:44 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:55:44 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster sighting - Kenmore, WA Message-ID: <007801cb05fd$b06c8d80$1145a880$@net> Caught a red high windshield heading west on Bothell Way in my rear view mirror. Think it turned at the next right after the light at 61st (Jack in the Box). Anyone on the list? Pete From keithddowning at yahoo.com Mon Jun 7 01:12:35 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 00:12:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Sunday ROADster Trip Message-ID: <259931.35072.qm@web83302.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> My 10 year old son, Conor, and I took a ROADster trip Sunday after church, covering 280 miles up the So Cal coast to Carpenteria and back. The car ran strong with no problems, aside from still losing some coolant (time to find those leaks). We went from our home in North Orange County, CA to Malibu/Pt Dume (AKA "our beach" in our family). Connor http://fototime.com/A9E385A832B2C26/standard.jpg Monkey'n around the car http://fototime.com/29477ACC260C674/standard.jpg Just before we got to the Pt. Magu Navel Complex, we drove by a sharp looking Roadster taking in the scenery on the other side of the road. I just had to swing around and say Hi. Juan is the owner of this red '69 2000 he's had since December. We chatted for a while then went on down the road. Nice guy. A chance meeting. http://fototime.com/6270031D57FAFB1/standard.jpg Juan, and his '69 SRL311 http://fototime.com/EBBBC22347B794B/standard.jpg Back on the road to Carpenteria for a late lunch at a little spot called The Spot. Great food, but they only take cash of which, I only had $10. We shared a burger and fries, he had a shake. http://fototime.com/34C15094FDF0382/standard.jpg From there, we drove by Lake Casitas to Ojai, Santa Paula, Fillmore, Simi Valley and had dinner at Tops in Pasadena. From there home. It was a lovely drive most of the way. Here's a link to the Google Maps page that shows our route. You can also use the Street View feature to get an idea of some of the scenery. http://tinyurl.com/2744ylt Connor and I had a terrific time drivin, laughin, talkin, seein... I hope he remembers this day forever, I know I will. Keith '68 SRL311 From stebharvey at ameritech.net Mon Jun 7 03:25:07 2010 From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 04:25:07 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Temp sensor replacement Message-ID: <000001cb0623$51fd5510$f5f7ff30$@net> Group, I spent Sunday troubleshooting my temp sensor, wiring and dash gauge (1970 1600) to determine which if any are working or not. I found a video on line on how to check the sensor using my ohm meter as in, reading when cold and readings after running the engine for 10 minutes. The video stated that there should be around a 200 ohm difference from cold to hot which is what I saw. I'm still not convinced that the sensor is good so I found a new replacement sensor and want to do the R&R. Any tips on how to replace the sensor without causing more problems then I started with? Thanks Steve Harvey Milwaukee From graemes at internode.on.net Mon Jun 7 04:06:03 2010 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 19:36:03 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] Temp sensor replacement In-Reply-To: <000001cb0623$51fd5510$f5f7ff30$@net> References: <000001cb0623$51fd5510$f5f7ff30$@net> Message-ID: <0C85D38512284064AA2693B1CBC14489@desktop> There is a current discussion on the 311s site about testing and replacing the sender. http://311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12003 Hope it helps you! "I spent Sunday troubleshooting my temp sensor, wiring and dash gauge (1970 1600) to determine which if any are working or not. I found a video on line on how to check the sensor using my ohm meter as in, reading when cold and readings after running the engine for 10 minutes. The video stated that there should be around a 200 ohm difference from cold to hot which is what I saw. I'm still not convinced that the sensor is good so I found a new replacement sensor and want to do the R&R. Any tips on how to replace the sensor without causing more problems then I started with?" From cookefam314 at gmail.com Mon Jun 7 09:23:19 2010 From: cookefam314 at gmail.com (Dave Cooke) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 10:23:19 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Nancy Sinatra's 1600 Datsun Roadster for sale Message-ID: >From our friends at JNC... *http://tinyurl.com/2dmpww6* -- Dave Cooke Roadster owner since '83 Lake in the Hills, IL Chicagoland Chapter of the Dairyland Datsuns From escanlon at wa-net.com Mon Jun 7 12:16:57 2010 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 11:16:57 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Temp sensor replacement References: <000001cb0623$51fd5510$f5f7ff30$@net> Message-ID: Since you've ascertained that there IS a resistance difference in the sensor between Hot and Cold, why are you intent on replacing it? If it ain't broke.... You don't mention whether the gauge reads or not, or what it reads. Your problem may be as simple as a voltage regulator or a mis-connection someplace. FWIW E > Group, > > I spent Sunday troubleshooting my temp sensor, wiring and dash gauge (1970 > 1600) to determine which if any are working or not. I found a video on > line > on how to check the sensor using my ohm meter as in, reading when cold and > readings after running the engine for 10 minutes. The video stated that > there should be around a 200 ohm difference from cold to hot which is what > I > saw. I'm still not convinced that the sensor is good so I found a new > replacement sensor and want to do the R&R. Any tips on how to replace the > sensor without causing more problems then I started with? > Thanks > Steve Harvey > > Milwaukee From eddietude at socal.rr.com Mon Jun 7 13:19:57 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 12:19:57 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Temp sensor replacement In-Reply-To: References: <000001cb0623$51fd5510$f5f7ff30$@net> Message-ID: <4C0D465D.806@socal.rr.com> "Since you've ascertained that there IS a resistance difference in the sensor between Hot and Cold, why are you intent on replacing it? If it ain't broke...." Where's the fun in that? I say tear it all apart, spend lots of money, and be aggravated... especially when it shows signs of working correctly! LOL E Scanlon wrote: > Since you've ascertained that there IS a resistance difference in the > sensor between Hot and Cold, why are you intent on replacing it? If > it ain't broke.... > > You don't mention whether the gauge reads or not, or what it reads. > Your problem may be as simple as a voltage regulator or a > mis-connection someplace. > > FWIW > E > > >> Group, >> >> I spent Sunday troubleshooting my temp sensor, wiring and dash gauge >> (1970 >> 1600) to determine which if any are working or not. I found a video >> on line >> on how to check the sensor using my ohm meter as in, reading when >> cold and >> readings after running the engine for 10 minutes. The video stated that >> there should be around a 200 ohm difference from cold to hot which is >> what I >> saw. I'm still not convinced that the sensor is good so I found a new >> replacement sensor and want to do the R&R. Any tips on how to replace >> the >> sensor without causing more problems then I started with? > >> Thanks >> Steve Harvey >> >> Milwaukee > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From stebharvey at ameritech.net Mon Jun 7 15:16:14 2010 From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:16:14 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Temp sensor replacement In-Reply-To: <4C0D465D.806@socal.rr.com> References: <000001cb0623$51fd5510$f5f7ff30$@net> <4C0D465D.806@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <001b01cb0686$a9ddc9a0$fd995ce0$@net> I'm old enough to know that if something is broke a little bit, go after it with gusto and make the simple problem a very big one. The wires to the gauge tests good so I assumed that it was ok as well as the gauge. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Eddie [mailto:eddietude at socal.rr.com] Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 2:20 PM To: E Scanlon Cc: Steve Harvey; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Temp sensor replacement "Since you've ascertained that there IS a resistance difference in the sensor between Hot and Cold, why are you intent on replacing it? If it ain't broke...." Where's the fun in that? I say tear it all apart, spend lots of money, and be aggravated... especially when it shows signs of working correctly! LOL E Scanlon wrote: > Since you've ascertained that there IS a resistance difference in the > sensor between Hot and Cold, why are you intent on replacing it? If > it ain't broke.... > > You don't mention whether the gauge reads or not, or what it reads. > Your problem may be as simple as a voltage regulator or a > mis-connection someplace. > > FWIW > E > > >> Group, >> >> I spent Sunday troubleshooting my temp sensor, wiring and dash gauge >> (1970 >> 1600) to determine which if any are working or not. I found a video >> on line >> on how to check the sensor using my ohm meter as in, reading when >> cold and >> readings after running the engine for 10 minutes. The video stated that >> there should be around a 200 ohm difference from cold to hot which is >> what I >> saw. I'm still not convinced that the sensor is good so I found a new >> replacement sensor and want to do the R&R. Any tips on how to replace >> the >> sensor without causing more problems then I started with? > >> Thanks >> Steve Harvey >> >> Milwaukee > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.co m From RWM at RWMann.com Mon Jun 7 16:21:52 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:21:52 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Temp sensor replacement In-Reply-To: <001b01cb0686$a9ddc9a0$fd995ce0$@net> References: <000001cb0623$51fd5510$f5f7ff30$@net> <4C0D465D.806@socal.rr.com> <001b01cb0686$a9ddc9a0$fd995ce0$@net> Message-ID: <4C0D7100.6050803@RWMann.com> Hence, the bigger the hammer, the better. Steve Harvey wrote: > I'm old enough to know that if something is broke a little bit, go after it > with gusto and make the simple problem a very big one. > > The wires to the gauge tests good so I assumed that it was ok as well as the > gauge. > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eddie [mailto:eddietude at socal.rr.com] > Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 2:20 PM > To: E Scanlon > Cc: Steve Harvey; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Temp sensor replacement > > "Since you've ascertained that there IS a resistance difference in the > sensor between Hot and Cold, why are you intent on replacing it? If it > ain't broke...." > > Where's the fun in that? I say tear it all apart, spend lots of money, > and be aggravated... especially when it shows signs of working correctly! > > LOL > > > E Scanlon wrote: > >> Since you've ascertained that there IS a resistance difference in the >> sensor between Hot and Cold, why are you intent on replacing it? If >> it ain't broke.... >> >> You don't mention whether the gauge reads or not, or what it reads. >> Your problem may be as simple as a voltage regulator or a >> mis-connection someplace. >> >> FWIW >> E >> >> >> >>> Group, >>> >>> I spent Sunday troubleshooting my temp sensor, wiring and dash gauge >>> (1970 >>> 1600) to determine which if any are working or not. I found a video >>> on line >>> on how to check the sensor using my ohm meter as in, reading when >>> cold and >>> readings after running the engine for 10 minutes. The video stated that >>> there should be around a 200 ohm difference from cold to hot which is >>> what I >>> saw. I'm still not convinced that the sensor is good so I found a new >>> replacement sensor and want to do the R&R. Any tips on how to replace >>> the >>> sensor without causing more problems then I started with? >>> >>> Thanks >>> Steve Harvey >>> >>> Milwaukee From aultgc at att.net Mon Jun 7 19:48:05 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:48:05 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Temp sensor replacement References: <000001cb0623$51fd5510$f5f7ff30$@net> <4C0D465D.806@socal.rr.com> <001b01cb0686$a9ddc9a0$fd995ce0$@net> Message-ID: Steve, Does your gas gauge work all right? Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Harvey" To: "'Eddie'" ; "'E Scanlon'" Cc: Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Temp sensor replacement > I'm old enough to know that if something is broke a little bit, go after > it > with gusto and make the simple problem a very big one. > > The wires to the gauge tests good so I assumed that it was ok as well as > the > gauge. > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eddie [mailto:eddietude at socal.rr.com] > Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 2:20 PM > To: E Scanlon > Cc: Steve Harvey; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Temp sensor replacement > > "Since you've ascertained that there IS a resistance difference in the > sensor between Hot and Cold, why are you intent on replacing it? If it > ain't broke...." > > Where's the fun in that? I say tear it all apart, spend lots of money, > and be aggravated... especially when it shows signs of working correctly! > > LOL > > > E Scanlon wrote: >> Since you've ascertained that there IS a resistance difference in the >> sensor between Hot and Cold, why are you intent on replacing it? If >> it ain't broke.... >> >> You don't mention whether the gauge reads or not, or what it reads. >> Your problem may be as simple as a voltage regulator or a >> mis-connection someplace. >> >> FWIW >> E >> >> >>> Group, >>> >>> I spent Sunday troubleshooting my temp sensor, wiring and dash gauge >>> (1970 >>> 1600) to determine which if any are working or not. I found a video >>> on line >>> on how to check the sensor using my ohm meter as in, reading when >>> cold and >>> readings after running the engine for 10 minutes. The video stated that >>> there should be around a 200 ohm difference from cold to hot which is >>> what I >>> saw. I'm still not convinced that the sensor is good so I found a new >>> replacement sensor and want to do the R&R. Any tips on how to replace >>> the >>> sensor without causing more problems then I started with? >> >>> Thanks >>> Steve Harvey >>> >>> Milwaukee >> ________________________________________ >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.co > m > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From 9laser3 at bright.net Tue Jun 8 19:06:37 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 21:06:37 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Message-ID: <000101cb0770$053c98a0$0fb5c9e0$@net> Link below show the poster for the MidOhio Vintage GP this month. The nice roadster belongs to Doc Herman of Ohio. http://datsun.org/roadster/news/default.php Thanks to Greg for posting it on his site. Paul Ohio From Mtbdavid2 at aol.com Wed Jun 9 14:47:03 2010 From: Mtbdavid2 at aol.com (Mtbdavid2 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 16:47:03 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] 1968 Datsun Roadster solex 2000 for sale(price drop) Message-ID: <40315.2853d6bb.394157c7@aol.com> After much thought and reluctance I am selling my beloved 1968 Datsun Roadster 2000 with solex carbs and B cam. Motor-2 liter Transmission-5spd rebuilt 44 solex carbs, heat shield, new insulators, new and used ITG air filters and 70mm velocity stacks performance B cam 4 point roll bar with new padded black cover original seat belts with hard to find optional shoulder belts. no cracks on dash cover all gauges work including clock complete reupholstered intererior in grey nice pioneer stereo system with amp, 6 disk CD changer, 4 speakers in car and one sub woofer sport wheels and steering wheel and fairly new tires but are cracking on side wall from sun 2.5" exhaust pipe, flex pipe off of new ceramic coated header, glass pipe and large chrome tip electronic distributer and new coil and spark plug wires rechromed headlight buckets and front grill and badge straightened and buffed stainless steel side molding and new stainless steel side molding clips new chrome soft top snaps new front air dam new competition shocks, front springs and thicker front sway bar COMPLETE NEW TIMING CHAINS, GEARS AND TENSIONORS INSTALLED RECENTLY fairly new canvas top and also have original hard top I am sure I am missing more upgrades I have made after owning the car for 12 years.. Spare Parts: I also have a complete spare motor (includes head and timing gears and chains) manifold and SU carbs spare 5 spd tranny working perfectly spare set of solex carbs which will need to be rebuilt and solex manifold, new solex isolators and gaskets will include all spare parts listed above plus a box of spare parts for an extra $1k $9,500 or $10,500 with ALL spare parts If interested reply or call David at 510-552-0529. I have two huge folders with all receipts and can provide more pictures if you are interested. Lots of pictures located at _http://s1001.photobucket.com/home/mtbdavid/allalbums_ (http://s1001.photobucket.com/home/mtbdavid/allalbums) Located in Fremont, CA From psbiker1 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 10 01:43:03 2010 From: psbiker1 at yahoo.com (S B) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 00:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Message-ID: <596291.13426.qm@web111814.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> http://brownvyfepi.chat.ru From graemes at internode.on.net Thu Jun 10 05:02:02 2010 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:32:02 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] 1/18 scale datsun SP311 Roadster diecast model. Message-ID: Hi folks, today I received, at long last, my Autoart model. Let me say that the quality and detail of the item literally blew me away! It is FANTASTIC! The engine [U20 with twin solex carbs.] is fully detailed, the boot has a removeable jack, the doors have a spring closing mechanism, fabric lap sash seat belts and it comes with a soft top and folded soft top. The engine bay has a tiny vehice ID plate as well. And more importantly, the steering wheel is on the CORRECT side! If anyone is considering purchasing this item, all I can say is go for it! The quality and detail is amazing! Someone in China has got there shite together. If you want some pics. just ask. Regards, Graeme Suckling 1965 SP310 Datsun Sports 1971 P510 Datsun 1600 1972 PL510 Datsun 1600 LHD 1973 HS30 Datsun 240Z 1984 B120 Datsun 1200 utility 1993 ECR33 Skyline GTS25t http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia From graemes at internode.on.net Thu Jun 10 05:33:23 2010 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 21:03:23 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: 1/18 scale datsun SP311 Roadster diecast model. Message-ID: <9911DE6C7A8B4E8A83BDA9904F15AFE7@desktop> OOOPS! It is an SR311! All else is applicable! From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com Thu Jun 10 14:28:55 2010 From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:28:55 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale Message-ID: http://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/1782031955.html Apparently car is in Montana. Claimed to be original, low miler. -Greg SRL31100494 Spokane, WA From datsun_roadster at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 10 14:58:46 2010 From: datsun_roadster at sbcglobal.net (datsun_roadster at sbcglobal.net) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:58:46 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Transmission interchange question References: <1379305214.18301041273859806425.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <71B13333CB9E48A7955D820DF07D20B8@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <00b301cb08df$b8814580$4101a8c0@wolfganga9a2ab> I have # SRL31100275, 76.5 roadster for sale $6000.00 , Call me for details if looking for a 67 1/2 to restore Mike Kerr 3730 Todrob ln. Placerville, CA 95667 530-644-6777 www.roadsterdatsun.com From sandhoff at csus.edu Thu Jun 10 15:27:37 2010 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:27:37 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4C10F659.24483.5B90857@localhost> > http://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/1782031955.html > > Apparently car is in Montana. Claimed to be original, low miler. Mmmmmm... Is this another "ran great when parked" 21 YEARS ago? :-) Probably a great starting point - assuming it's not rusted out underneath. But "easy to get parts for"? I suppose - if your checking account has a high enough balance... And almost nobody parks a car that's running well. But after a couple of decades almost everyone forgets WHY they parked it in the first place... Don't mind me, I'm just rambling.... -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From 9laser3 at bright.net Thu Jun 10 15:33:51 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:33:51 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003001cb08e4$a0dc02d0$e2940870$@net> Sure looks like a '69, except the grill is a 1500 (I think?). Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gregory S. Morrison Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 4:29 PM To: Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale http://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/1782031955.html Apparently car is in Montana. Claimed to be original, low miler. -Greg SRL31100494 Spokane, WA ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net From keithddowning at yahoo.com Thu Jun 10 16:44:16 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale In-Reply-To: <003001cb08e4$a0dc02d0$e2940870$@net> References: <003001cb08e4$a0dc02d0$e2940870$@net> Message-ID: <521090.81324.qm@web83306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Not a 1500 grill. ________________________________ From: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> To: Gregory S. Morrison ; Roadster List Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 2:33:51 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale Sure looks like a '69, except the grill is a 1500 (I think?). Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gregory S. Morrison Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 4:29 PM To: Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale http://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/1782031955.html Apparently car is in Montana. Claimed to be original, low miler. -Greg SRL31100494 Spokane, WA ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.com From 9laser3 at bright.net Thu Jun 10 17:40:37 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:40:37 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale In-Reply-To: <521090.81324.qm@web83306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <003001cb08e4$a0dc02d0$e2940870$@net> <521090.81324.qm@web83306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003401cb08f6$56c2dfe0$04489fa0$@net> Falling back on Greg's model guide ,http://www.datsun.org/roadster/resources/front.html , it sure looks like a 1500 grill! Paul From: Keith Downing [mailto:keithddowning at yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:44 PM To: Paul Cc: Datsun E-Mail List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale Not a 1500 grill. _____ From: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> To: Gregory S. Morrison ; Roadster List Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 2:33:51 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale Sure looks like a '69, except the grill is a 1500 (I think?). Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gregory S. Morrison Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 4:29 PM To: Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale http://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/1782031955.html Apparently car is in Montana. Claimed to be original, low miler. -Greg SRL31100494 Spokane, WA ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.c om From keithddowning at yahoo.com Thu Jun 10 17:47:37 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:47:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale In-Reply-To: <003401cb08f6$56c2dfe0$04489fa0$@net> References: <003001cb08e4$a0dc02d0$e2940870$@net> <521090.81324.qm@web83306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <003401cb08f6$56c2dfe0$04489fa0$@net> Message-ID: <438361.80720.qm@web83308.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Mia Culpa.B 1500 Grill yes.B '63,'64 grill no.B '65 probably. Keith ________________________________ From: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> To: Keith Downing Cc: Datsun E-Mail List Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 4:40:37 PM Subject: RE: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale B Falling back on Gregbs model guide ,http://www.datsun.org/roadster/resources/front.html , it sure looks like a 1500 grill! B Paul B From:Keith Downing [mailto:keithddowning at yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:44 PM To: Paul Cc: Datsun E-Mail List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale B Not a 1500 grill.B B ________________________________ From:Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> To: Gregory S. Morrison ; Roadster List Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 2:33:51 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale B Sure looks like a '69, except the grill is a 1500 (I think?). Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gregory S. Morrison Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 4:29 PM To: Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale http://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/1782031955.html Apparently car is in Montana. Claimed to be original, low miler. -Greg SRL31100494 Spokane, WA ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donationB $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donationB $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.co m From hoonhkim at gmail.com Thu Jun 10 18:04:49 2010 From: hoonhkim at gmail.com (Hoon Kim) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:04:49 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator Upgrade Update Message-ID: This didn't seem to go through the first time so I'm sending again. Sorry if you get duplicate emails. Thanks for all the sugs and emails. Over the weekend I finally got to working on my upgrade project. The biggest challenge was fitting the connecting rod to the new 60 amp GM alternator. I ended up taking some metal spacers and drilling them to fit within the larger alternator who on the GM. I hacksawed the original mount and everything fit perfectly. I even kept my existing fan belt. The mount worked great. NOW, I'm very new to electrical systems so even though all the lit said the wiring was easy, it took me a while to figure it out. The only thing was that it now seems like the wiring had been modified by the PO. There already existed a wire from the positive of the battery to the alternator positive. I may be completely wrong, but it seems like the #2 connector from the alternator plug goes back to the positive on the back of the alternator and the #1 wire (white) goes to nothing. I had 2 sets of wires from the original setup that now doesn't go to anything, the first being the wire previously from the positive from the alternator to the starter. I guess I don't need this anymore since I have the other wire going directly to the battery? The second set is from the voltage regulator. Lastly I have the ground wire going from the other bolt on the alternator to one of the bolt of the mounting bracket. I couldn't figure out where the fusible link should be added with my different set up to protect the harness. Also my Ammeter was not connected to anything. Is attaching the wires that bypassed the ammeter to a voltmeter work? Anything I should be considering to avoid frying my system? BTW. No smog. Early 1600, so the alternator is on the passenger side. If I had the time and money, I'd start with a fresh harness. :( Thanks again great roadster community! Hoon '67 1600. From tputland at charter.net Thu Jun 10 18:36:19 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:36:19 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale In-Reply-To: <521090.81324.qm@web83306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20100610203619.WKWNS.951398.root@mp14> How can you say a 69 if there are no pics of the side marker lights? Or what did I miss? Tim currently in a sleep deprived clueless state (but always learning) ---- Keith Downing wrote: ============= Not a 1500 grill. ________________________________ From: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> To: Gregory S. Morrison ; Roadster List Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 2:33:51 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale Sure looks like a '69, except the grill is a 1500 (I think?). Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gregory S. Morrison Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 4:29 PM To: Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale http://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/1782031955.html Apparently car is in Montana. Claimed to be original, low miler. -Greg SRL31100494 Spokane, WA ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From pat at hornesystemstx.com Thu Jun 10 19:03:04 2010 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:03:04 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator Upgrade Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C118B48.1030003@hornesystemstx.com> Thusly spake Hoon Kim, On 6/10/2010 7:04 PM: > > > NOW, I'm very new to electrical systems so even though all the lit said the > wiring was easy, it took me a while to figure it out. The only thing was > that it now seems like the wiring had been modified by the PO. There already > existed a wire from the positive of the battery to the alternator positive. > I may be completely wrong, but it seems like the #2 connector from the > alternator plug goes back to the positive on the back of the alternator and > the #1 wire (white) goes to nothing. I had 2 sets of wires from the original > setup that now doesn't go to anything, the first being the wire previously > from the positive from the alternator to the starter. I guess I don't need > this anymore since I have the other wire going directly to the battery? The > second set is from the voltage regulator. > These can both be removed. > Lastly I have the ground wire going from the other bolt on the alternator to > one of the bolt of the mounting bracket. > This should also be fine. > I couldn't figure out where the fusible link should be added with my > different set up to protect the harness. The fusible link goes in the wire between the alternator output and the battery > Also my Ammeter was not connected > to anything. Is attaching the wires that bypassed the ammeter to a voltmeter > work? > That will work, as long as you don't leave the car parked for long periods (weeks) without starting it. If you don't drive the car often, connect the volt meter to the ignition side of the ignition switch. That way it will only be powered up when the key is on. > > Hoon > '67 1600. > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/pat at hornesystemstx.com > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From keithddowning at yahoo.com Thu Jun 10 19:26:22 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 18:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale In-Reply-To: <20100610203619.WKWNS.951398.root@mp14> References: <20100610203619.WKWNS.951398.root@mp14> Message-ID: <624019.56579.qm@web83305.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I think it's the dual license plate lamps. '68 has it on the indented bumpper. '70 has the reflectors inbound of the tail lights rather than on top. Keith ________________________________ From: Tim To: Keith Downing ; Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> Cc: Datsun E-Mail List Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 5:36:19 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale How can you say a 69 if there are no pics of the side marker lights? Or what did I miss? Tim currently in a sleep deprived clueless state (but always learning) ---- Keith Downing wrote: ============= Not a 1500 grill. ________________________________ From: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> To: Gregory S. Morrison ; Roadster List Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 2:33:51 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale Sure looks like a '69, except the grill is a 1500 (I think?). Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gregory S. Morrison Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 4:29 PM To: Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale http://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/1782031955.html Apparently car is in Montana. Claimed to be original, low miler. -Greg SRL31100494 Spokane, WA ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From Brad at lustigconsultingllc.com Thu Jun 10 19:26:36 2010 From: Brad at lustigconsultingllc.com (Brad Lustig (brad@lustigconsultingllc.com)) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 21:26:36 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale In-Reply-To: <003401cb08f6$56c2dfe0$04489fa0$@net> References: <003001cb08e4$a0dc02d0$e2940870$@net> <521090.81324.qm@web83306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <003401cb08f6$56c2dfe0$04489fa0$@net> Message-ID: <7A1C8E87-EAD5-44C6-A4BB-B2FBB5BFB610@lustigconsultingllc.com> I'm not seeing 1500 either. Looks like a 1600 grill to me, too. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 10, 2010, at 8:01 PM, "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote: > Falling back on Greg's model guide > ,http://www.datsun.org/roadster/resources/front.html , it sure looks > like a > 1500 grill! > > > > Paul > > > > From: Keith Downing [mailto:keithddowning at yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:44 PM > To: Paul > Cc: Datsun E-Mail List > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale > > > > Not a 1500 grill. > > > > _____ > > From: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> > To: Gregory S. Morrison ; Roadster List > > Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 2:33:51 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale > > Sure looks like a '69, except the grill is a 1500 (I think?). > > Paul > Ohio > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > Gregory S. > Morrison > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 4:29 PM > To: Roadster List > Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale > > http://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/1782031955.html > > Apparently car is in Montana. Claimed to be original, low miler. > > -Greg > SRL31100494 > Spokane, WA > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.c > om > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/brad at lustigconsultingl lc.com From escanlon at wa-net.com Thu Jun 10 19:48:05 2010 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 18:48:05 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale References: <20100610203619.WKWNS.951398.root@mp14> Message-ID: Only the 69's had the small reflector in the rear with the license plate lights on either side of the plate. E Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale > How can you say a 69 if there are no pics of the side marker lights? Or > what did I miss? > > > Tim > currently in a sleep deprived clueless state (but always learning) From escanlon at wa-net.com Thu Jun 10 20:01:38 2010 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:01:38 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale References: <003001cb08e4$a0dc02d0$e2940870$@net><521090.81324.qm@web83306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><003401cb08f6$56c2dfe0$04489fa0$@net> <438361.80720.qm@web83308.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7B0084EF24BD4C14A434E1C6A6BA3E20@HPW> Sorry, I differ on the ID. 1600 Grill... Yes 1500 Grill ...No. Using the same source (Datsun.org) cited previously, there is no difference in the grills noted between the two 1500 years shown, while the 65 1600 spells out "deeper grill with horizontal bars". There are no other 1600 model years illustrated. The 1500 had 10 vertical separations while the 1600 shows numerous (too many to count) separations further back than in-line with the horizontal bars. Enlarging the photo of the grill distinctly shows that the horizontal bars are not on the same plane as the vertical bars. 2" E > Mia Culpa.B 1500 Grill yes.B '63,'64 grill no.B '65 probably. > > Keith From graemes at internode.on.net Thu Jun 10 20:16:38 2010 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:46:38 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] UPDATE: 1/18 scale datsun SR311 Roadster diecast model. Message-ID: <5F846889035140A6A7F7B012EEB4E6A9@desktop> I have created a Shutterfly album with some pics. of my new SR311. Enjoy! http://nissanman.shutterfly.com/1348 From dave at eastcoastroadster.com Thu Jun 10 20:17:57 2010 From: dave at eastcoastroadster.com (dave) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 22:17:57 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale In-Reply-To: <20100610203619.WKWNS.951398.root@mp14> Message-ID: Double license plate lights, but old style reflector. 68 had single bumper mounted plate light, 70 has the 2 big reflectors, not the small ones above the taillamps Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: Tim [mailto:tputland at charter.net] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 8:36 PM To: Keith Downing; Paul Cc: Datsun E-Mail List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale How can you say a 69 if there are no pics of the side marker lights? Or what did I miss? Tim currently in a sleep deprived clueless state (but always learning) ---- Keith Downing wrote: ============= Not a 1500 grill. ________________________________ From: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> To: Gregory S. Morrison ; Roadster List Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 2:33:51 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale Sure looks like a '69, except the grill is a 1500 (I think?). Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gregory S. Morrison Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 4:29 PM To: Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale http://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/1782031955.html Apparently car is in Montana. Claimed to be original, low miler. -Greg SRL31100494 Spokane, WA ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.c om ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From aultgc at att.net Thu Jun 10 21:05:54 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 22:05:54 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale References: <003001cb08e4$a0dc02d0$e2940870$@net><521090.81324.qm@web83306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><003401cb08f6$56c2dfe0$04489fa0$@net> <438361.80720.qm@web83308.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Using the datsun.org link Paul provided, the grill looks more like a '65 1600 than a '65 1500. I think we're seeing the backing for the 1600 grill, which is not as pronounced as the egg-crate design of the 1500 and earlier grills. Hard to tell for sure from the photo, though. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Downing" To: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net> Cc: "Datsun E-Mail List" Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale > Mia Culpa.B 1500 Grill yes.B '63,'64 grill no.B '65 probably. > > Keith > ________________________________ > From: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> > To: Keith > Downing > Cc: Datsun E-Mail List > > Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 4:40:37 PM > Subject: > RE: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale > > > B Falling back on Gregbs model guide > ,http://www.datsun.org/roadster/resources/front.html , it sure looks like > a > 1500 grill! > B > Paul > B > From:Keith Downing [mailto:keithddowning at yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:44 PM > To: Paul > Cc: Datsun E-Mail List > Subject: > Re: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale > B > Not a 1500 grill.B > B > ________________________________ > > From:Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> > To: Gregory > S. Morrison ; Roadster List > > Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 2:33:51 PM > Subject: > Re: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale > > B Sure looks like a '69, except the grill is a > 1500 (I think?). > > Paul > Ohio > > -----Original Message----- > From: > datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gregory S. > Morrison > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 4:29 PM > To: Roadster List > Subject: > [Roadsters] 1600 for sale > > http://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/1782031955.html > Apparently car is in Montana. Claimed to be original, low miler. > > -Greg > SRL31100494 > Spokane, WA > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donationB $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donationB $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.co > m > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From 9laser3 at bright.net Fri Jun 11 03:55:01 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (9laser3 at bright.net) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 05:55:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 for sale In-Reply-To: References: <003001cb08e4$a0dc02d0$e2940870$@net><521090.81324.qm@web83306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><003401cb08f6$56c2dfe0$04489fa0$@net> <438361.80720.qm@web83308.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20100611055501.EUM84472@ms2.cniteam.com> I conceed, it's a 1600 grille. I blame it on the lighting in the photo nad a lousy monitor on my end. And I guess it's time to get new specs! (:-) Paul Ohio From RSCHLEGEL at OCSD.COM Fri Jun 11 07:47:09 2010 From: RSCHLEGEL at OCSD.COM (Schlegel, Richard) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:47:09 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1968 Datsun Roadster for sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7205D7C8DE0E724A8EBBB88675FBE8CC05C32F93AE@e07ms1.insideocsd.com> For Sale $1000 takes it all! (Plates NOT included) 1968 Datsun Roadster SPL311-18910 R16 engine #61234, SUs with a 4 speed tranny. Sold Hardtop but I have the soft top mechanism. Yes it has rust in all the usual places. Slotted 240Z rims. Tires are good. A picture is worth a thousand words so here is about 30,000 of them. Car was in parts when I bought it. Not sure what works and what doesn't. Buy for parts or restoring. Please look at the pictures BEFORE contacting me. http://picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich/1968Datsun Take Care, Rich Buena Park, CA iAmRockinRich(at)gmail.com 714-five two seven-5183 From keithddowning at yahoo.com Fri Jun 11 13:23:15 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Spring Cleaning Message-ID: <474056.14252.qm@web83306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I'm cleaning things out. I'm keeping all my old parts. Is there any use for very worn out lower ball joints (I've got two sets now). I know RareParts.com rebuilds upper ball joints, but is anything like this possible for the lowers, or should I toss them? Thanks Keith From patrickcomitale at yahoo.com Fri Jun 11 16:01:29 2010 From: patrickcomitale at yahoo.com (P C) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Parting Out 1966 SPL311 Message-ID: <174044.34509.qm@web114109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> These parts pulled and ready to go. If you're in need of something else, let me know. Parts for sale Alternator Distributor Radiator Radiator hoses top and bottom Airbox with filter Intake with su carbs Fuel sending unit Filler neck with breather hose Gas tank Gas tank straps Sending unit cover Center console Ashtray Shifter boot Shifter boot trim ring Glove box Glove box door Glove box door lock Dash Gauges Dash Switches Ignition with key Driver Seat Pass. Seat Steering wheel Horn 14" steel wheels Wiper arms Wiper motor Wiper motor arms HardTop Hood Doors Windows Quarter windows Window regulators Door locks Front grille Trunk Trunk garnish Trunk bars Fenders Seat belts Front directional bezels Headlights Tail light housings and bezels Antenna Door sill plates Rocker sill plates Inside rocker trim From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri Jun 11 17:47:06 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:47:06 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Spring Cleaning In-Reply-To: <474056.14252.qm@web83306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <474056.14252.qm@web83306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00ad01cb09c0$67230430$35690c90$@net> Dunno about rebuilding, but RareParts has lower ball joints for sale. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Keith Downing Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 12:23 PM To: Datsun E-Mail List Subject: [Roadsters] Spring Cleaning I'm cleaning things out. I'm keeping all my old parts. Is there any use for very worn out lower ball joints (I've got two sets now). I know RareParts.com rebuilds upper ball joints, but is anything like this possible for the lowers, or should I toss them? Thanks Keith ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri Jun 11 17:49:08 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:49:08 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Parting Out 1966 SPL311 In-Reply-To: <174044.34509.qm@web114109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <174044.34509.qm@web114109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00ae01cb09c0$af6f5130$0e4df390$@net> Any chance you took and posted pics online? ..and you're located where? Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of P C Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 3:01 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Parting Out 1966 SPL311 These parts pulled and ready to go. If you're in need of something else, let me know. Parts for sale Alternator Distributor Radiator Radiator hoses top and bottom Airbox with filter Intake with su carbs Fuel sending unit Filler neck with breather hose Gas tank Gas tank straps Sending unit cover Center console Ashtray Shifter boot Shifter boot trim ring Glove box Glove box door Glove box door lock Dash Gauges Dash Switches Ignition with key Driver Seat Pass. Seat Steering wheel Horn 14" steel wheels Wiper arms Wiper motor Wiper motor arms HardTop Hood Doors Windows Quarter windows Window regulators Door locks Front grille Trunk Trunk garnish Trunk bars Fenders Seat belts Front directional bezels Headlights Tail light housings and bezels Antenna Door sill plates Rocker sill plates Inside rocker trim ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From mark at bradakis.com Fri Jun 11 20:04:37 2010 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:04:37 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Parting Out 1966 SPL311 In-Reply-To: <00ae01cb09c0$af6f5130$0e4df390$@net> References: <174044.34509.qm@web114109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <00ae01cb09c0$af6f5130$0e4df390$@net> Message-ID: <4C12EB35.4020100@bradakis.com> Pete Peters wrote: > Any chance you took and posted pics online? > > There is both a swap meet and datsuns forum at http://www.team.net/forums where one can easily post pictures. mjb. From chalsted at comcast.net Sat Jun 12 06:59:50 2010 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:59:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] '68 2000 race roadster for sale- BRE prepared engine In-Reply-To: <1209427062.3209711276347215765.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <166425353.3210801276347590346.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I've had this roadster for years and always figured I'd get around to playing with it one of these days...decided to give someone else the chance. this car was campaigned primarily in the midwestern division, I have log books for it. has never been a street car- engine was pulled out of a brand new car and shipped out to BRE to do their thing, cost about as much to have the engine done as it had to buy the car in the first place. has the "1 1/2 barrel" BRE carbs, does not have the multi-piece header. fenders are flared but it's all massaged sheetmetal, legal for vintage racing. the photo I have with the log books is the paint that's still on the car at this time. first $3500 buys it, contact me offlist if interested . I have spares available...LOTS of spares...10+ U20's, 5spds etc. Craig From boakes at gmail.com Sat Jun 12 10:39:22 2010 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:39:22 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Water pump, carpet, and wiring harness Message-ID: Hi Gang, seeing Dave's roadster at the Mundelein Car Show last week got me back on campaign to reassemble my '68 2000. Things are coming along, but now need: - Water pump - Carpet Kit - Engine bay wiring harness (not completely necessary, but know it would be a great thing to have, $ may be an issue, especially depending on the pump) The water pump looked to be in decent shape, but when I tried to disassemble to put in new gaskets the screws were completely fused into the metal. Tried oils, heat and even drilling them out, it's a mess. Suggestions and ideas welcome. Bill Oakes Libertyville, IL From eddietude at socal.rr.com Sat Jun 12 11:50:20 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:50:20 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Water pump, carpet, and wiring harness In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C13C8DC.2030801@socal.rr.com> Suggestion: Get a water pump from a Forklift place for the H2) motor. Exact same thing, a fraction of the cost. OR, go to Pep boys, or any other auto parts store, and you can order decent aftermarket pumps for a fraction of what the vendors and dealers sell them for. Wiring harness... Go the "painless" route. The stock wiring harnesses in these cars is garbage. Too many circuits on too few fuses on too thin wires... it's a reciepe for problems... Eddie Bill Oakes wrote: > Hi Gang, > > seeing Dave's roadster at the Mundelein Car Show last week got me back on > campaign to reassemble my '68 2000. Things are coming along, but now need: > > - Water pump > - Carpet Kit > - Engine bay wiring harness (not completely necessary, but know it would be > a great thing to have, $ may be an issue, especially depending on the pump) > > The water pump looked to be in decent shape, but when I tried to disassemble > to put in new gaskets the screws were completely fused into the metal. Tried > oils, heat and even drilling them out, it's a mess. > > Suggestions and ideas welcome. > > Bill Oakes > Libertyville, IL > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From az589 at lafn.org Sat Jun 12 18:28:26 2010 From: az589 at lafn.org (Stan Chernoff) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:28:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Water pump, carpet, and wiring harness In-Reply-To: <4C13C8DC.2030801@socal.rr.com> References: <4C13C8DC.2030801@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20100612172603.04550d18@lafn.org> Which Nissan/ Datsun forklift used a U20 engine? Stan ================== At 10:50 AM 6/12/2010, Eddie wrote: >Suggestion: > >Get a water pump from a Forklift place for the H2) motor. Exact >same thing, a fraction of the cost. > >OR, go to Pep boys, or any other auto parts store, and you can order >decent aftermarket pumps for a fraction of what the vendors and >dealers sell them for. > >Wiring harness... > >Go the "painless" route. The stock wiring harnesses in these cars >is garbage. Too many circuits on too few fuses on too thin wires... >it's a reciepe for problems... > >Eddie > >Bill Oakes wrote: >>Hi Gang, >> >>seeing Dave's roadster at the Mundelein Car Show last week got me back on >>campaign to reassemble my '68 2000. Things are coming along, but now need: >> >>- Water pump >>- Carpet Kit >>- Engine bay wiring harness (not completely necessary, but know it would be >>a great thing to have, $ may be an issue, especially depending on the pump) >> >>The water pump looked to be in decent shape, but when I tried to disassemble >>to put in new gaskets the screws were completely fused into the metal. Tried >>oils, heat and even drilling them out, it's a mess. >> >>Suggestions and ideas welcome. >> >>Bill Oakes >>Libertyville, IL >>________________________________________ From vze2fhba at verizon.net Sat Jun 12 19:09:44 2010 From: vze2fhba at verizon.net (vze2fhba at verizon.net) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 20:09:44 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Water pump, carpet, and wiring harness Message-ID: <13583625.600219.1276391384041.JavaMail.root@vms074.mailsrvcs.net> From eddietude at socal.rr.com Sat Jun 12 19:16:53 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:16:53 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Water pump, carpet, and wiring harness In-Reply-To: <13583625.600219.1276391384041.JavaMail.root@vms074.mailsrvcs.net> References: <13583625.600219.1276391384041.JavaMail.root@vms074.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <4C143185.5000502@socal.rr.com> Whoops! Thought that was a 1600. Haven't looked for U20 motor parts, but I wouldn't be surprised if they too, could be found at auto parts stores, or even online for a heck of a lot less than what is considered "normal". vze2fhba at verizon.net wrote: > wait for it.......don't mince facts with Stan....he knows things :) > Charlie B > > > Jun 13, 2010 01:03:14 AM, az589 at lafn.org wrote: > > Which Nissan/ Datsun forklift used a U20 engine? > > Stan > ================== > > At 10:50 AM 6/12/2010, Eddie wrote: > >Suggestion: > > > >Get a water pump from a Forklift place for the H2) motor. Exact > >same thing, a fraction of the cost. > > > >OR, go to Pep boys, or any other auto parts store, and you can order > >decent aftermarket pumps for a fraction of what the vendors and > >dealers sell them for. > > > >Wiring harness... > > > >Go the "painless" route. The stock wiring harnesses in these cars > >is garbage. Too many circuits on too few fuses on too thin wires... > >it's a reciepe for problems... > > > >Eddie > > > >Bill Oakes wrote: > >>Hi Gang, > >> > >>seeing Dave's roadster at the Mundelein Car Show last week got > me back on > >>campaign to reassemble my '68 2000. Things are coming along, but > now need: > >> > >>- Water pump > >>- Carpet Kit > >>- Engine bay wiring harness (not completely necessary, but know > it would be > >>a great thing to have, $ may be an issue, especially depending > on the pump) > >> > >>The water pump looked to be in decent shape, but when I tried to > disassemble > >>to put in new gaskets the screws were completely fused into the > metal. Tried > >>oils, heat and even drilling them out, it's a mess. > >> > >>Suggestions and ideas welcome. > >> > >>Bill Oakes > >>Libertyville, IL > >>________________________________________ > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/vze2fhba at verizon.net From graemes at internode.on.net Sat Jun 12 19:33:53 2010 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 11:03:53 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] Water pump, carpet, and wiring harness In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.2.20100612172603.04550d18@lafn.org> References: <4C13C8DC.2030801@socal.rr.com> <7.0.0.16.2.20100612172603.04550d18@lafn.org> Message-ID: Typo!, he meant H20 not H2). I think. Perhaps. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Stan Chernoff Sent: Sunday, 13 June 2010 9:58 AM To: Eddie; boakes at gmail.com Cc: Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Water pump, carpet, and wiring harness Which Nissan/ Datsun forklift used a U20 engine? Stan ================== At 10:50 AM 6/12/2010, Eddie wrote: >Suggestion: > >Get a water pump from a Forklift place for the H2) motor. Exact same >thing, a fraction of the cost. > >OR, go to Pep boys, or any other auto parts store, and you can order >decent aftermarket pumps for a fraction of what the vendors and dealers >sell them for. > >Wiring harness... > >Go the "painless" route. The stock wiring harnesses in these cars is >garbage. Too many circuits on too few fuses on too thin wires... >it's a reciepe for problems... > >Eddie > >Bill Oakes wrote: >>Hi Gang, >> >>seeing Dave's roadster at the Mundelein Car Show last week got me back >>on campaign to reassemble my '68 2000. Things are coming along, but now need: >> >>- Water pump >>- Carpet Kit >>- Engine bay wiring harness (not completely necessary, but know it >>would be a great thing to have, $ may be an issue, especially >>depending on the pump) >> >>The water pump looked to be in decent shape, but when I tried to >>disassemble to put in new gaskets the screws were completely fused >>into the metal. Tried oils, heat and even drilling them out, it's a mess. >> >>Suggestions and ideas welcome. >> >>Bill Oakes >>Libertyville, IL >>________________________________________ ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on. net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2932 - Release Date: 06/13/10 04:05:00 From pat at hornesystemstx.com Sat Jun 12 19:42:35 2010 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 20:42:35 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Water pump, carpet, and wiring harness In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.2.20100612172603.04550d18@lafn.org> References: <4C13C8DC.2030801@socal.rr.com> <7.0.0.16.2.20100612172603.04550d18@lafn.org> Message-ID: <4C14378B.5020402@hornesystemstx.com> When I needed a water pump I went into the local forklift/loader shop and put the pump on the counter. I told them that it was for an H20 on a Nissan fork lift engine, but I didn't know the year, since the engine was now in a car. They were able to match it up easily. I believe it also fits a Mitsubishi engine, and I think several others. As I recall, the only thing that I found different was the length of one of the mounting bosses, I had to use a shorter bolt than on the old pump. I may still have the box it cam in, but I can't get to my parts right now, yesterday a swarm of honey bees decided to set up home INSIDE my shop. Hopefully it is only for a few days, but if they are still there Monday I will call a bee keeper. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Stan Chernoff, On 6/12/2010 7:28 PM: > Which Nissan/ Datsun forklift used a U20 engine? > > Stan > ================== > > At 10:50 AM 6/12/2010, Eddie wrote: >> Suggestion: >> >> Get a water pump from a Forklift place for the H2) motor. Exact same >> thing, a fraction of the cost. >> >> OR, go to Pep boys, or any other auto parts store, and you can order >> decent aftermarket pumps for a fraction of what the vendors and >> dealers sell them for. >> >> Wiring harness... >> >> Go the "painless" route. The stock wiring harnesses in these cars is >> garbage. Too many circuits on too few fuses on too thin wires... >> it's a reciepe for problems... >> >> Eddie >> >> Bill Oakes wrote: >>> Hi Gang, >>> >>> seeing Dave's roadster at the Mundelein Car Show last week got me >>> back on >>> campaign to reassemble my '68 2000. Things are coming along, but now >>> need: >>> >>> - Water pump >>> - Carpet Kit >>> - Engine bay wiring harness (not completely necessary, but know it >>> would be >>> a great thing to have, $ may be an issue, especially depending on >>> the pump) >>> >>> The water pump looked to be in decent shape, but when I tried to >>> disassemble >>> to put in new gaskets the screws were completely fused into the >>> metal. Tried >>> oils, heat and even drilling them out, it's a mess. >>> >>> Suggestions and ideas welcome. >>> >>> Bill Oakes >>> Libertyville, IL >>> ________________________________________ > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/pat at hornesystemstx.com > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From fairlady at bigpond.com Sat Jun 12 20:25:59 2010 From: fairlady at bigpond.com (Phill Brook) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 12:25:59 +1000 Subject: [Roadsters] Water pump, carpet, and wiring harness In-Reply-To: <4C143185.5000502@socal.rr.com> References: <13583625.600219.1276391384041.JavaMail.root@vms074.mailsrvcs.net> <4C143185.5000502@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <5B09E53E-72FE-4347-B837-7F9089EC3D71@bigpond.com> Sadly no-one has found an off-the-shelf alternative to the U20 water pump in the last 43 years and I don't think they'll find one anytime soon. Phill B On 13/06/2010, at 11:16 AM, Eddie wrote: > Whoops! > > Thought that was a 1600. > Haven't looked for U20 motor parts, but I wouldn't be surprised if > they too, could be found at auto parts stores, or even online for a > heck of a lot less than what is considered "normal". > > > > vze2fhba at verizon.net wrote: >> wait for it.......don't mince facts with Stan....he knows things :) >> Charlie B >> >> >> Jun 13, 2010 01:03:14 AM, az589 at lafn.org wrote: >> >> Which Nissan/ Datsun forklift used a U20 engine? >> >> Stan >> ================== >> >> At 10:50 AM 6/12/2010, Eddie wrote: >> >Suggestion: >> > >> >Get a water pump from a Forklift place for the H2) motor. Exact >> >same thing, a fraction of the cost. >> > >> >OR, go to Pep boys, or any other auto parts store, and you >> can order >> >decent aftermarket pumps for a fraction of what the vendors and >> >dealers sell them for. >> > >> >Wiring harness... >> > >> >Go the "painless" route. The stock wiring harnesses in these >> cars >> >is garbage. Too many circuits on too few fuses on too thin >> wires... >> >it's a reciepe for problems... >> > >> >Eddie From eddietude at socal.rr.com Sat Jun 12 20:32:41 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:32:41 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Water pump, carpet, and wiring harness In-Reply-To: <5B09E53E-72FE-4347-B837-7F9089EC3D71@bigpond.com> References: <13583625.600219.1276391384041.JavaMail.root@vms074.mailsrvcs.net> <4C143185.5000502@socal.rr.com> <5B09E53E-72FE-4347-B837-7F9089EC3D71@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <5067999C-822B-4DBA-8109-4C7C3F5629A5@socal.rr.com> Then dump that u20 motor altogether! Sent from my iPhone plz excuse typing errors. On Jun 12, 2010, at 7:25 PM, Phill Brook wrote: > Sadly no-one has found an off-the-shelf alternative to the U20 water > pump in the last 43 years and I don't think they'll find one anytime > soon. > > Phill B > > On 13/06/2010, at 11:16 AM, Eddie wrote: > >> Whoops! >> >> Thought that was a 1600. >> Haven't looked for U20 motor parts, but I wouldn't be surprised if >> they too, could be found at auto parts stores, or even online for a >> heck of a lot less than what is considered "normal". >> >> >> >> vze2fhba at verizon.net wrote: >>> wait for it.......don't mince facts with Stan....he knows things :) >>> Charlie B >>> >>> >>> Jun 13, 2010 01:03:14 AM, az589 at lafn.org wrote: >>> >>> Which Nissan/ Datsun forklift used a U20 engine? >>> >>> Stan >>> ================== >>> >>> At 10:50 AM 6/12/2010, Eddie wrote: >>> >Suggestion: >>> > >>> >Get a water pump from a Forklift place for the H2) motor. Exact >>> >same thing, a fraction of the cost. >>> > >>> >OR, go to Pep boys, or any other auto parts store, and you can >>> order >>> >decent aftermarket pumps for a fraction of what the vendors and >>> >dealers sell them for. >>> > >>> >Wiring harness... >>> > >>> >Go the "painless" route. The stock wiring harnesses in these >>> cars >>> >is garbage. Too many circuits on too few fuses on too thin >>> wires... >>> >it's a reciepe for problems... >>> > >>> >Eddie From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sat Jun 12 22:04:34 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 00:04:34 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Water pump, carpet, and wiring harness In-Reply-To: <5B09E53E-72FE-4347-B837-7F9089EC3D71@bigpond.com> References: <13583625.600219.1276391384041.JavaMail.root@vms074.mailsrvcs.net><4C143185.5000502@socal.rr.com> <5B09E53E-72FE-4347-B837-7F9089EC3D71@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <8CCD8C4AA052E1F-498-F2E@webmail-m031.sysops.aol.com> Just get it rebuilt at a rebuilder.Here in LA there is Pacific Exchange. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Phill Brook To: Eddie Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Jun 12, 2010 7:25 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Water pump, carpet, and wiring harness Sadly no-one has found an off-the-shelf alternative to the U20 water pump in the last 43 years and I don't think they'll find one anytime soon. Phill B On 13/06/2010, at 11:16 AM, Eddie wrote: > Whoops! > > Thought that was a 1600. > Haven't looked for U20 motor parts, but I wouldn't be surprised if > they too, could be found at auto parts stores, or even online for a > heck of a lot less than what is considered "normal". > > > > vze2fhba at verizon.net wrote: >> wait for it.......don't mince facts with Stan....he knows things :) >> Charlie B >> >> >> Jun 13, 2010 01:03:14 AM, az589 at lafn.org wrote: >> >> Which Nissan/ Datsun forklift used a U20 engine? >> >> Stan >> ================== >> >> At 10:50 AM 6/12/2010, Eddie wrote: >> >Suggestion: >> > >> >Get a water pump from a Forklift place for the H2) motor. Exact >> >same thing, a fraction of the cost. >> > >> >OR, go to Pep boys, or any other auto parts store, and you >> can order >> >decent aftermarket pumps for a fraction of what the vendors and >> >dealers sell them for. >> > >> >Wiring harness... >> > >> >Go the "painless" route. The stock wiring harnesses in these >> cars >> >is garbage. Too many circuits on too few fuses on too thin >> wires... >> >it's a reciepe for problems... >> > >> >Eddie ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.net From tputland at charter.net Sat Jun 12 22:37:29 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 21:37:29 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] What car is this? Message-ID: <20100613003729.8RDJI.5170919.root@mp05> Is this Bucephelus (sp?) I thought Bucephalus (sp?) was in AZ. This car is in TX... If you look at the front on shot, why is the port side tire pointing off to the side while the other appears straight on? Ebay # 300435397458 Tim From boakes at gmail.com Sun Jun 13 04:53:12 2010 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 05:53:12 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Water pump, carpet, and wiring harness In-Reply-To: <8CCD8C4AA052E1F-498-F2E@webmail-m031.sysops.aol.com> References: <13583625.600219.1276391384041.JavaMail.root@vms074.mailsrvcs.net> <4C143185.5000502@socal.rr.com> <5B09E53E-72FE-4347-B837-7F9089EC3D71@bigpond.com> <8CCD8C4AA052E1F-498-F2E@webmail-m031.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Wow, lots of good info there, and a downright scary picture of bees to boot. What a list! Anyone now a rebuilder in the Chicago area? -bill On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 11:04 PM, wrote: > Just get it rebuilt at a rebuilder.Here in LA there is Pacific Exchange. > Linda > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phill Brook > To: Eddie > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Sat, Jun 12, 2010 7:25 pm > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Water pump, carpet, and wiring harness > > > Sadly no-one has found an off-the-shelf alternative to the U20 water pump > in > the last 43 years and I don't think they'll find one anytime soon. > > Phill B > > On 13/06/2010, at 11:16 AM, Eddie wrote: > > > Whoops! > > > > Thought that was a 1600. > > Haven't looked for U20 motor parts, but I wouldn't be surprised if > they > too, could be found at auto parts stores, or even online for a > heck of a > lot > less than what is considered "normal". > > > > > > > > vze2fhba at verizon.net wrote: > >> wait for it.......don't mince facts with Stan....he knows things :) > >> Charlie B > >> > >> > >> Jun 13, 2010 01:03:14 AM, az589 at lafn.org wrote: > >> > >> Which Nissan/ Datsun forklift used a U20 engine? > >> > >> Stan > >> ================== > >> > >> At 10:50 AM 6/12/2010, Eddie wrote: > >> >Suggestion: > >> > > >> >Get a water pump from a Forklift place for the H2) motor. Exact > >> >same thing, a fraction of the cost. > >> > > >> >OR, go to Pep boys, or any other auto parts store, and you >> can > order > >> >decent aftermarket pumps for a fraction of what the vendors and > >> >dealers sell them for. > >> > > >> >Wiring harness... > >> > > >> >Go the "painless" route. The stock wiring harnesses in these >> > cars > >> >is garbage. Too many circuits on too few fuses on too thin >> > wires... > >> >it's a reciepe for problems... > >> > > >> >Eddie > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/boakes at gmail.com > -- Bill Oakes bill at billoakes.com http://billoakes.com 312-607-1667 404 Broadway Libertyville, IL 60048 From stebharvey at ameritech.net Sun Jun 13 07:07:50 2010 From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 08:07:50 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Restoration rotary Message-ID: <000c01cb0af9$6da90900$48fb1b00$@net> Group, I'm finally finished with the sheet metal work on my restoration project and have no more use for rotary I built. If any mid-western member is interested in buying it contact me off list and I'll provide pictures and such. Thanks Steve From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com Sun Jun 13 07:17:41 2010 From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 09:17:41 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Water pump, carpet, and wiring harness In-Reply-To: <5B09E53E-72FE-4347-B837-7F9089EC3D71@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <1F355EBA04714139BC2FAFA6CEBDD1B8@D4RK97B1JR> Even more sadly, I sent one to (2) nationally advertised rebuilders and neither one could source the bearings or seals... Joe Phil B wrote: Sadly no-one has found an off-the-shelf alternative to the U20 water pump in the last 43 years and I don't think they'll find one anytime soon. From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sun Jun 13 08:49:15 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 10:49:15 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Water pump, carpet, and wiring harness In-Reply-To: <1F355EBA04714139BC2FAFA6CEBDD1B8@D4RK97B1JR> Message-ID: <8CCD91EBAD0A40D-B5C-2787E@webmail-m008.sysops.aol.com> Maybe a bearing shop would be the next stop if you could get it opened up then bring the bearings to the rebuilder. Though if you were that far you might be able to do it yourself. Anyone know the bearing size? Linda -----Original Message----- From: Joe Russo To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, Jun 13, 2010 6:17 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Water pump, carpet, and wiring harness Even more sadly, I sent one to (2) nationally advertised rebuilders and neither one could source the bearings or seals... Joe Phil B wrote: Sadly no-one has found an off-the-shelf alternative to the U20 water pump in the last 43 years and I don't think they'll find one anytime soon. ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From dave at eastcoastroadster.com Sun Jun 13 09:50:17 2010 From: dave at eastcoastroadster.com (dave) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 11:50:17 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Water pump, carpet, and wiring harness In-Reply-To: <8CCD8C4AA052E1F-498-F2E@webmail-m031.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <669BF4F0EB344B1398A88EFF3D4205C9@delled48909442> Local rebuilders, like Linda suggested, are great, and if there isn't one near you, most large chains also offer a rebuild and return program, Mine was done through NAPA, who uses Cardone, IIRC took about 5 days. If you don't want the car inoperative while waiting, then buy an old one and send it out. I was helping a friend clean out his storage bin of Roadster parts yesterday, he will be putting 2 waterpumps on Ebay soon, 1 even has a "working" (pieces haven't fallen out yet) fan clutch! Same goes for alternators if you prefer not to do a GM conversion, send out an oldie. Dave Brisco East Coast Roadster -----Original Message----- From: ljordan704 at netscape.net [mailto:ljordan704 at netscape.net] Just get it rebuilt at a rebuilder.Here in LA there is Pacific Exchange. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Phill Brook Sadly no-one has found an off-the-shelf alternative to the U20 water pump in the last 43 years and I don't think they'll find one anytime soon. Phill B From classicautorecycling at yahoo.com Sun Jun 13 11:28:38 2010 From: classicautorecycling at yahoo.com (N W) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 10:28:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Hard top Message-ID: <565579.36117.qm@web120119.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I have a low windshield roadster hard top with triange side windows and can't find a manufacture tag or model # card. Anyone have an idea who make this one? From fj201 at cox.net Sun Jun 13 13:27:15 2010 From: fj201 at cox.net (Ron Hamilton) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 12:27:15 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] solex set up on craigslist Message-ID: <4C153113.60307@cox.net> Craigslist number (Phoenix listing) 1789990870 I decided to start selling my roadster stuff as my machine shop/green house/ retirement has long since taken priority over any car related things -- *Ron Hamilton Ron's Little Machine Shop Mesa,AZ* From gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com Sun Jun 13 21:23:37 2010 From: gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com (Gordon Maness) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:23:37 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Water pump In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I just had a U20 water pump rebuilt in Denver Co. by Raven Power Stearing Spec. They did re-use the original bearings. They did not feel they needed replacing. Maybe it was they could not get new ones, they did put in a new seal though. g _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 From keithddowning at yahoo.com Mon Jun 14 01:06:27 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 00:06:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] How I spent my leisurely Sunday Afternoon. Message-ID: <347720.9079.qm@web83302.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=5133813&rid=117 Best Wishes, Keith From graemes at internode.on.net Mon Jun 14 04:41:01 2010 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:11:01 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] How I spent my leisurely Sunday Afternoon. In-Reply-To: <347720.9079.qm@web83302.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <347720.9079.qm@web83302.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8EC1A9566D8649F7AB3EDDD3FFCA0670@desktop> Ahhh! So that is how they make Vegemite! Seriously, that looks more like TAR than oil! I hope the engine hasn't suffered too much. "Subject: [Roadsters] How I spent my leisurely Sunday Afternoon. http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=5133813&rid=117 Best Wishes, Keith" From pat at hornesystemstx.com Mon Jun 14 07:53:07 2010 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 08:53:07 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] How I spent my leisurely Sunday Afternoon. In-Reply-To: <8EC1A9566D8649F7AB3EDDD3FFCA0670@desktop> References: <347720.9079.qm@web83302.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <8EC1A9566D8649F7AB3EDDD3FFCA0670@desktop> Message-ID: <4C163443.9020409@hornesystemstx.com> Head gasket leak? I suspect a water leak. Most of the times I've seen this, the oil was lighter color and foamy. Was your radiator low when you drained it? Peace, Pat Thusly spake Graeme, On 6/14/2010 5:41 AM: > Ahhh! So that is how they make Vegemite! > Seriously, that looks more like TAR than oil! > I hope the engine hasn't suffered too much. > > "Subject: [Roadsters] How I spent my leisurely Sunday Afternoon. > > http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=5133813&rid=117 > > Best Wishes, > > Keith" > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/pat at hornesystemstx.com > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From msedlack at neo.rr.com Mon Jun 14 07:57:29 2010 From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:57:29 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] How I spent my leisurely Sunday Afternoon. References: <347720.9079.qm@web83302.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8A3FCF8577B54CDB847F9E527D441AE0@p53ghzduo> So what brand of oil was that so we know what to stay away from? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Downing" To: "Datsun E-Mail List" Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:06 AM Subject: [Roadsters] How I spent my leisurely Sunday Afternoon. > http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=5133813&rid=117 > > Best Wishes, > > Keith > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/msedlack at neo.rr.com From RWM at RWMann.com Mon Jun 14 08:52:31 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:52:31 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] How I spent my leisurely Sunday Afternoon. In-Reply-To: <8A3FCF8577B54CDB847F9E527D441AE0@p53ghzduo> References: <347720.9079.qm@web83302.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <8A3FCF8577B54CDB847F9E527D441AE0@p53ghzduo> Message-ID: <4C16422F.3060707@RWMann.com> From RWM at RWMann.com Mon Jun 14 08:56:01 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:56:01 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] How I spent my leisurely Sunday Afternoon. In-Reply-To: <8A3FCF8577B54CDB847F9E527D441AE0@p53ghzduo> References: <347720.9079.qm@web83302.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <8A3FCF8577B54CDB847F9E527D441AE0@p53ghzduo> Message-ID: <4C164301.8020405@RWMann.com> Ouch. Or was it chocolate pudding mix? Mark Sedlack wrote: > So what brand of oil was that so we know what to stay away from? > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Downing" > > To: "Datsun E-Mail List" > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:06 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] How I spent my leisurely Sunday Afternoon. > > >> http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=5133813&rid=117 >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> Keith From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Jun 14 13:49:05 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 12:49:05 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] solex set up on craigslist In-Reply-To: <4C153113.60307@cox.net> References: <4C153113.60307@cox.net> Message-ID: <009401cb0bfa$a63790a0$f2a6b1e0$@net> Link makes it easier: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/pts/1789990870.html -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Hamilton Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 12:27 PM To: Datsun Forum Subject: [Roadsters] solex set up on craigslist Craigslist number (Phoenix listing) 1789990870 I decided to start selling my roadster stuff as my machine shop/green house/ retirement has long since taken priority over any car related things -- *Ron Hamilton Ron's Little Machine Shop Mesa,AZ* ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From gcuthber at telus.net Mon Jun 14 14:04:51 2010 From: gcuthber at telus.net (Garth Cuthbert) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:04:51 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] How I spent my leisurely Sunday Afternoon. In-Reply-To: <8A3FCF8577B54CDB847F9E527D441AE0@p53ghzduo> References: <347720.9079.qm@web83302.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <8A3FCF8577B54CDB847F9E527D441AE0@p53ghzduo> Message-ID: <002901cb0bfc$d9f38370$8dda8a50$@net> That is some special looking oil! As others have suggested, it may be product of mixing with coolant. An easy way to test for water in oil is to flame or heat a small amount to see if water boils out of it. Be careful hot oil is flammable. I am very curious as to the process that caused the oil breakdown. I hope you caught it in time before any bearing or lubrication damage occurred. Good Luck Garth -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Sedlack Sent: June-14-10 6:57 AM To: Keith Downing; Datsun E-Mail List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How I spent my leisurely Sunday Afternoon. So what brand of oil was that so we know what to stay away from? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Downing" To: "Datsun E-Mail List" Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:06 AM Subject: [Roadsters] How I spent my leisurely Sunday Afternoon. > http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=5133813&rid=117 > > Best Wishes, > > Keith > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/msedlack at neo.rr.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcuthber at telus.net From umccullough at gmail.com Mon Jun 14 15:07:09 2010 From: umccullough at gmail.com (Urias McCullough) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:07:09 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] How I spent my leisurely Sunday Afternoon. In-Reply-To: <002901cb0bfc$d9f38370$8dda8a50$@net> References: <347720.9079.qm@web83302.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <8A3FCF8577B54CDB847F9E527D441AE0@p53ghzduo> <002901cb0bfc$d9f38370$8dda8a50$@net> Message-ID: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Garth Cuthbert wrote: > I am very curious as to the process that caused the oil > breakdown. Looks like there was a followup in that thread here: http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&th=1489934&mid=5134190 Where he mentioned: "On my last oil change, I used an oil additive, Rislone. My suspicion is it just broke up so much crud..." HTH! From Brad at lustigconsultingllc.com Mon Jun 14 15:19:55 2010 From: Brad at lustigconsultingllc.com (Brad Lustig (brad@lustigconsultingllc.com)) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:19:55 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] How I spent my leisurely Sunday Afternoon. In-Reply-To: <002901cb0bfc$d9f38370$8dda8a50$@net> References: <347720.9079.qm@web83302.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <8A3FCF8577B54CDB847F9E527D441AE0@p53ghzduo> <002901cb0bfc$d9f38370$8dda8a50$@net> Message-ID: I've made that mistake before. You go to grab some 10w50 oil and you accidentally pick up 1050w. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 14, 2010, at 5:02 PM, "Garth Cuthbert" wrote: > That is some special looking oil! As others have suggested, it may be > product of mixing with coolant. An easy way to test for water in oil > is to > flame or heat a small amount to see if water boils out of it. Be > careful hot > oil is flammable. I am very curious as to the process that caused > the oil > breakdown. I hope you caught it in time before any bearing or > lubrication > damage occurred. > > Good Luck > > Garth > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark > Sedlack > Sent: June-14-10 6:57 AM > To: Keith Downing; Datsun E-Mail List > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How I spent my leisurely Sunday Afternoon. > > So what brand of oil was that so we know what to stay away from? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Downing" > To: "Datsun E-Mail List" > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:06 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] How I spent my leisurely Sunday Afternoon. > > >> http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=5133813&rid=117 >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> Keith >> ________________________________________ >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/msedlack at neo.rr.com > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcuthber at telus.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/brad at lustigconsultingl lc.com From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Jun 14 17:58:53 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:58:53 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] How I spent my leisurely Sunday Afternoon. In-Reply-To: References: <347720.9079.qm@web83302.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <8A3FCF8577B54CDB847F9E527D441AE0@p53ghzduo> <002901cb0bfc$d9f38370$8dda8a50$@net> Message-ID: <00ab01cb0c1d$8b1fe7e0$a15fb7a0$@net> Could there really be that much crud from the PO even though the oil had been changed only 3 months ago? Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Urias McCullough Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:07 PM To: Datsun E-Mail List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How I spent my leisurely Sunday Afternoon. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Garth Cuthbert wrote: > I am very curious as to the process that caused the oil > breakdown. Looks like there was a followup in that thread here: http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&th=1489934&mid=5134190 Where he mentioned: "On my last oil change, I used an oil additive, Rislone. My suspicion is it just broke up so much crud..." HTH! ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From twobeaners at earthlink.net Mon Jun 14 19:34:12 2010 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:34:12 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] How I spent my leisurely Sunday Afternoon. References: <347720.9079.qm@web83302.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9566C6517EF64AD48C20BD76C5F9ADD4@lap120> I've had Pennzoil 10W30 turn to jello after the car was parked and not driven for several months. Further research and Googled articles informed me that is a common issue with some paraffin-based motor oils such as Pennzoil. I now use Mobile 1, after my rebuilt stroker was broke-in. Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Downing" To: "Datsun E-Mail List" Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:06 AM Subject: [Roadsters] How I spent my leisurely Sunday Afternoon. > http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=5133813&rid=117 > > Best Wishes, > > Keith From ljordan704 at netscape.net Mon Jun 14 19:41:06 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:41:06 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] How I spent my leisurely Sunday Afternoon. In-Reply-To: <00ab01cb0c1d$8b1fe7e0$a15fb7a0$@net> References: <347720.9079.qm@web83302.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><8A3FCF8577B54CDB847F9E527D441AE0@p53ghzduo><002901cb0bfc$d9f38370$8dda8a50$@net> <00ab01cb0c1d$8b1fe7e0$a15fb7a0$@net> Message-ID: <8CCDA42F4FF0A4A-1874-4784@webmail-d009.sysops.aol.com> I'm thinking there was a bunch of crud in the oil pan if it was never cleaned out and it all got dredged up and circulated. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:58 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How I spent my leisurely Sunday Afternoon. Could there really be that much crud from the PO even though the oil had been changed only 3 months ago? Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Urias McCullough Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:07 PM To: Datsun E-Mail List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How I spent my leisurely Sunday Afternoon. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Garth Cuthbert wrote: > I am very curious as to the process that caused the oil > breakdown. Looks like there was a followup in that thread here: http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&th=1489934&mid=5134190 Where he mentioned: "On my last oil change, I used an oil additive, Rislone. My suspicion is it just broke up so much crud..." HTH! ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From mkiisupra at hotmail.com Mon Jun 14 19:48:32 2010 From: mkiisupra at hotmail.com (Eric Gillis) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 01:48:32 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Mt. Shasta - BUMP! Pass it on to those not on the list! In-Reply-To: <546911.38184.qm@web83403.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <546911.38184.qm@web83403.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hey Kids and other assorted Roadster-types! The 2010 Mt. Shasta Meet is scheduled for the weekend following Independence Day, July 9-10. This year there will be t-shirts available again, however there will only be one order of shirts to go around. If you ordered a shirt last year and havent gotten it yet, I may still have your shirt, email me off list. This year's shirt design is posted at http://www.pbase.com/egillis/image/125599053/medium I have heard that there are significantly less pre-entrants at this time than last year at the same time. To get an idea of how many shirts to order, please contact me via mkiisupra at hotmail.com if you are interested in a shirt this year. Pricing will be similar to last year around $18-$20, a few polos will be available for $25. Once they are gone, the mold will be destroyed! ;) I haven't seen a posting for the 2010 Shasta meet on 311s.org yet. I will get a posting to remind and maybe a link to a printable registration flyer for those new to the loop. Please correct me if someone else has started this already. Remember, this year we have offered an opportunity for those wily enough to come up/down/over for the day with a $25 'Car Show only' charge for car placement in the Shastice Park Show Area, dash plaque, and vote in the car show. Please get entries in to Phyllis by June 30 to save a few bucks! I look forward to seeing you all up there this year! As always, if you know of others interested in 'Shasta' please pass on this email or make copies of your flyer to spread the word. The world of roadster show attendees are of several communication variants, sometimes it helps to put the word out past those on the majordomo list! Eric Gillis Modesto Datsun Roadsters > Hi Everyone, the flyers for the 26th Mt. Shasta Datsun Roadster Meet have been > mailed. If you did not get a flyer, and would like one mailed to you, please > contact me at phylam at sbcglobal.net. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 From vulforge at aol.com Mon Jun 14 21:05:43 2010 From: vulforge at aol.com (vulforge at aol.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 23:05:43 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Message-ID: <8CCDA4EC720BD43-FEC-704E@webmail-m067.sysops.aol.com> www.rfs4.cheaphealthstore-c.com From aultgc at att.net Mon Jun 14 23:38:28 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 00:38:28 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] How I spent my leisurely Sunday Afternoon. References: <347720.9079.qm@web83302.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><8A3FCF8577B54CDB847F9E527D441AE0@p53ghzduo><002901cb0bfc$d9f38370$8dda8a50$@net> <00ab01cb0c1d$8b1fe7e0$a15fb7a0$@net> Message-ID: >From my experience with a 1979 Chevy Malibu that the PO had "meticulously maintained", yes. It had so much c____ in the oil pasages that the dealer had to de-sludge it. Being a cat iron block and head V-6, there was no noticeable engine damage. Dealer said sludge was the result of not changing the oil. Period. It was a company car, and it was two quarts + down when I took it over. It was running rough, so I pulled the plugs the first weekend (as I had to go on a trip on Monday), and found one spark plug COMPLETELY covered with carbon -- just a nice mound over the entire electrode. Run much better with a fresh set of plugs. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How I spent my leisurely Sunday Afternoon. > Could there really be that much crud from the PO even though the oil had > been changed only 3 months ago? > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Urias > McCullough > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:07 PM > To: Datsun E-Mail List > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How I spent my leisurely Sunday Afternoon. > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Garth Cuthbert > wrote: >> I am very curious as to the process that caused the oil >> breakdown. > > Looks like there was a followup in that thread here: > > http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&th=1489934&mid=5134190 > > Where he mentioned: "On my last oil change, I used an oil additive, > Rislone. My suspicion is it just broke up so much crud..." > > HTH! > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne > t > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From tputland at charter.net Tue Jun 15 10:07:26 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 9:07:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Paging Jon Frampton Message-ID: <20100615120726.E1SSV.4707402.root@mp08> Please contact me off list. Thanks Tim From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com Tue Jun 15 12:48:22 2010 From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:48:22 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] AUTOart 2000 Message-ID: Just received my 1/18th scale AUTOart 2000. Really, really great. Highly recommended. Here's where I got mine: www.aa-collection.com Greg SRL31100494 Spokane, WA From tputland at charter.net Tue Jun 15 12:49:41 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:49:41 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] torn soft top boot Message-ID: <20100615144941.8J6CM.4716748.root@mp08> I managed to tear my soft top boot while installing it around the bracket for a newly installed wind baffle. The tear is down lowish by the package shelf and is about six inches long or so. What is the best way to fix this? Can it be sewn effectively? I am not worried about what it will look like as the interior is not perfect. Should I just take it to an upholstery shop or can it be done by hand? (has any one sewn a vinyl tonneau or boot before?) Thanks Tim From alvingogi at hotmail.com Tue Jun 15 13:20:26 2010 From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:20:26 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Canby Datsun Show pics Message-ID: Full album here: http://rides.webshots.com/album/577949605ZfEGoW After 25hrs and 1800 miles of driving we are back from Oregon! This was our first visit to the Canby Datsun show and it was impressive. We camped at Multnomah falls near the Washington border, about 1hr NE of Canby http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2370079330103240641DgVmIZ http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2594582710103240641IjkOXy When we arrived at the show on Sunday the first thing I noticed was how there were more unregistered cars than show-entered! I really liked the venue, lots of shade and grass and the weather was perfect. In a way it's like the All-Datsun meet with an Auto-x event the Friday before, swap meet and fun kid-friendly activites. On to the show! It was a pleasure meeting all of the 311s members and putting faces to (screen) names :D LOTS of roadsters, I'd say about 20+, great showing. http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2695014990103240641FKnjbn http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2681877480103240641eUAyet Just a sample of the roadsters: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2174927800103240641FNzWhf Ted Heaton's '66 KA24DE http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2470710940103240641SuZMhw Enrique's (ESCanlon) Spica Orange(you have to see this paint in person) http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2586217540103240641AmQNLE Eric Straw's SR20 beauty: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2022331090103240641NUlukL Dave Joliff's SR20 with fresh dash, Z32 front/rear brakes: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2784671530103240641hQnHfb ] The Ken and Barbie roadster! I haven't seen this since Shasta '04! http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2635194330103240641LWapHK Check the album for more roadsters! Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID2832 6::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 From greydog300zx at yahoo.com Tue Jun 15 14:26:29 2010 From: greydog300zx at yahoo.com (dan russell) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] torn soft top boot In-Reply-To: <20100615144941.8J6CM.4716748.root@mp08> References: <20100615144941.8J6CM.4716748.root@mp08> Message-ID: <664449.39604.qm@web56403.mail.re3.yahoo.com> HI Tim. My experience is that the rip should be repaired by adding a reinforcing strip behind the tear. The strip is double perimeter stitched, then the torn edges are zigzag stitched to the reinforcing. If done correctly, the patch isn't highly visible and will be stronger than the top material. Unless you have an industrial sewing machine I would take it to an place that does boat tops. They'll know exactly what to do. If you want a temporary fix, you can glue the torn edges to a piece of backing vinyl using Goop or a vinyl adhesive. It might last for quite a while. If you can get the two torn edges to match and lay flat on the backing it might not be too visible. Thanks, Dan ________________________________ From: Tim To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Sent: Tue, June 15, 2010 11:49:41 AM Subject: [Roadsters] torn soft top boot I managed to tear my soft top boot while installing it around the bracket for a newly installed wind baffle. The tear is down lowish by the package shelf and is about six inches long or so. What is the best way to fix this? Can it be sewn effectively? I am not worried about what it will look like as the interior is not perfect. Should I just take it to an upholstery shop or can it be done by hand? (has any one sewn a vinyl tonneau or boot before?) Thanks Tim ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/greydog300zx at yahoo.com From keithddowning at yahoo.com Tue Jun 15 15:02:00 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:02:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] AUTOart 2000 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <26221.73094.qm@web83306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I'm hoping for one for Father's Day ________________________________ From: Gregory S. Morrison To: Roadster List Sent: Tue, June 15, 2010 11:48:22 AM Subject: [Roadsters] AUTOart 2000 Just received my 1/18th scale AUTOart 2000. Really, really great. Highly recommended. Here's where I got mine: www.aa-collection.com Greg SRL31100494 Spokane, WA ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.com From tputland at charter.net Tue Jun 15 16:10:26 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:10:26 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] AUTOart 2000 In-Reply-To: <26221.73094.qm@web83306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20100615181026.1ZLYB.5295722.root@mp05> I had my father's day present all picked out and permission from the boss to buy it. Then the seller re-nigged on me. And the price I got permission to spend was his offer. Have a nice bloody day. Tim ---- Keith Downing wrote: ============= I'm hoping for one for Father's Day ________________________________ From: Gregory S. Morrison To: Roadster List Sent: Tue, June 15, 2010 11:48:22 AM Subject: [Roadsters] AUTOart 2000 Just received my 1/18th scale AUTOart 2000. Really, really great. Highly recommended. Here's where I got mine: www.aa-collection.com Greg SRL31100494 Spokane, WA ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From rabush2000 at hotmail.com Tue Jun 15 16:38:15 2010 From: rabush2000 at hotmail.com (richard bush) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 22:38:15 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Door bottom - polishes aluminum stepboard panels In-Reply-To: <664449.39604.qm@web56403.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <20100615144941.8J6CM.4716748.root@mp08>, <664449.39604.qm@web56403.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Greetings from Austin, Does anyone have a photo of the polished aluminum stepboard panels that appear on either side of the car in the door well? Not the panels that screw onto the bottom of the door but the ones that mount onto the car itself. I have found someone willing to make them but I need a photograph to progress this. Thanks in advance. Rick R A Bush, P O Box 500003 Dubai, UAE; cell: ++971 50 456 4357 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Jun 15 16:40:29 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:40:29 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] AUTOart 2000 In-Reply-To: <26221.73094.qm@web83306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <26221.73094.qm@web83306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004601cb0cdb$c22532e0$466f98a0$@net> Check the oil! Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Keith Downing Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 2:02 PM To: Gregory S. Morrison Cc: Datsun E-Mail List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] AUTOart 2000 I'm hoping for one for Father's Day ________________________________ From: Gregory S. Morrison To: Roadster List Sent: Tue, June 15, 2010 11:48:22 AM Subject: [Roadsters] AUTOart 2000 Just received my 1/18th scale AUTOart 2000. Really, really great. Highly recommended. Here's where I got mine: www.aa-collection.com Greg SRL31100494 Spokane, WA ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.c om ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From tputland at charter.net Thu Jun 17 11:37:12 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:37:12 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] emergency road contact list Message-ID: <20100617133712.Y9JG3.7770618.root@mp06> Someone please send me a link to it. I cannot, for the life of me, find it on the 311s site. (Not that I can ever find anything there.) Thanks tim From tputland at charter.net Thu Jun 17 11:37:26 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:37:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] emergency road contact list Message-ID: <20100617133727.8BHXO.7770629.root@mp06> Someone please send me a link to it. I cannot, for the life of me, find it on the 311s site. (Not that I can ever find anything there.) Thanks tim From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Jun 17 12:54:30 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:54:30 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] emergency road contact list In-Reply-To: <20100617133727.8BHXO.7770629.root@mp06> References: <20100617133727.8BHXO.7770629.root@mp06> Message-ID: <00e501cb0e4e$84fca960$8ef5fc20$@net> Emergency Road Trip Information is a forum topic. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 10:37 AM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] emergency road contact list Someone please send me a link to it. I cannot, for the life of me, find it on the 311s site. (Not that I can ever find anything there.) Thanks tim ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From 9laser3 at bright.net Thu Jun 17 14:15:06 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 16:15:06 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] emergency road contact list In-Reply-To: <20100617133712.Y9JG3.7770618.root@mp06> References: <20100617133712.Y9JG3.7770618.root@mp06> Message-ID: <003301cb0e59$c9ad5810$5d080830$@net> Cal's site has disappeared, but nowroc has picked up the list. http://www.nowroc.org/emergency_garages.htm Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:37 PM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] emergency road contact list Someone please send me a link to it. I cannot, for the life of me, find it on the 311s site. (Not that I can ever find anything there.) Thanks tim ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net From shas1983 at netzero.net Fri Jun 18 10:25:01 2010 From: shas1983 at netzero.net (shas1983 at netzero.net) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:25:01 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] u20 cam timing Message-ID: <20100618.092501.24895.0@webmail12.dca.untd.com> Does anyone have any experience with a u20 cam timing being off 1 tooth or less? I have aligned the cam with TDC and counted chain links per the original service manual. The engine cranks easily and runs pretty well at lower rpms(under 3000), but seems to loose power and not readily want to climb to higher rpms under load at speed (free revs easily). The odd thing is I had to advance the distributor timing well past the std 16% to get the engine to run well. When I turn the engine over and stop it on #1 TDC per the crank the lobes of the cam on #1 appear to be silghtly advanced past 10 and 2 and the intake vale on #4 appears slighlty compressed more than #4 exhaust. It looks like they are advanced at most less than 1 full tooth (15% on 24 tooth sprocket), so I am wondering if the combination of a resurfaced head and cam tower shims could have changed the chain length enough to account for this? I have an adjustable cam sprocket that I can try (+- 6 degrees), but I was wondering if others have seen this before I change the sprocket. I would have expected the engine to run far worse than it does, but I have just about ruled everything else out. Seems good at lower rpms but just does not pull past 3000 rpms like it used to. Jon Carlisle ____________________________________________________________ Government Personal DEBT Bailout Plan Reduce Your Personal Debt up to 65%. End The Snowball Effect Today! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4c1b9e1bbda4f437673st06duc From gcallahan at prodigy.net Sat Jun 19 14:35:02 2010 From: gcallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 13:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] I Need To Sell My Roadster Soon! Message-ID: <594016.8145.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I've just had another eBay deal to sell my car fall through. This has been the fourth time I have listed the car on eBay and still no sale. Does anybody have other suggestions for me to sell my car. I would keep it if I could but I owe money to the Feds, to the State of Oregon, and to an ex-girlfriend. I'm mostly afraid of the ex-girlfriend. When I'm with Datsun enthusiasts, they all tell me the car should sell easily for over $5000; but so far, even though the bidding has been in that range, the deals have fallen through. Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 From roadsters311 at rogers.com Sat Jun 19 14:47:34 2010 From: roadsters311 at rogers.com (Al Boettcher) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 16:47:34 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Libre Wheels Message-ID: I have found a site that is remaking the classic Libra wheel in 14 and 15 in sizes with various widths www.vtowheels.com From gcallahan at prodigy.net Sat Jun 19 14:54:16 2010 From: gcallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 13:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 1964 Datsun 1500 on Craig's List in Portland Message-ID: <402327.84766.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://tinyurl.com/1964-SPL310 As I was posting my 68 1600 on Craig's List I saw this nice looking 1500 for sale and thought I'd let you all know about it. Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com Sat Jun 19 15:44:48 2010 From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 17:44:48 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Libre Wheels In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <911A5131B31947DCB2C51FDE239AB09A@D4RK97B1JR> Sweet, Thanks Al Joe -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Al Boettcher Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 4:48 PM To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Libre Wheels I have found a site that is remaking the classic Libra wheel in 14 and 15 in sizes with various widths www.vtowheels.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/jrusso07 at rochester.rr. com From eddietude at socal.rr.com Sat Jun 19 16:50:04 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 15:50:04 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] I Need To Sell My Roadster Soon! In-Reply-To: <594016.8145.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <594016.8145.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C1D499C.8020004@socal.rr.com> Craigslist and autotrader. Also, what "Datsun enthusiasts" think a car is worth is never right, from what I've seen. They all think the parts should be cheap, but the cars are worth a fortune, which is the exact opposite in the real world. Bottom line, it's only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Eddie Gary Callahan wrote: > I've just had another eBay deal to sell my car fall through. This has been > the fourth time I have listed the car on eBay and still no sale. Does anybody > have other suggestions for me to sell my car. I would keep it if I could but > I owe money to the Feds, to the State of Oregon, and to an ex-girlfriend. I'm > mostly afraid of the ex-girlfriend. When I'm with Datsun enthusiasts, they > all tell me the car should sell easily for over $5000; but so far, even though > the bidding has been in that range, the deals have fallen through. > > > > Gary Callahan > Beaverton, Oregon > > 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster > SPL311-18665 > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From djaes at optusnet.com.au Sat Jun 19 17:24:48 2010 From: djaes at optusnet.com.au (David Jones) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 09:24:48 +1000 Subject: [Roadsters] 2010 Australian Datsun Roadster Nationals Message-ID: <43C0F99899064487868AF38A449B20AC@DaveJones> Howdy fellow Roadster enthusiasts'. Attached for your interest are a few of my photos from the Aussie 2010 Datsun Roadster Nationals "Show and Shine" held in Geelong, Victoria, Australia on the 12th of June. The weather was a bit "average" to start with; however 50 Roadsters were in attendance along with the latest Nissan 370Z Roadster courtesy of Nissan Australia. http://rides.webshots.com/album/577960247yIXLiu It was a great day! Regards, Dave From tom at datsun2000.com Sat Jun 19 18:21:16 2010 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 17:21:16 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] u20 cam timing Message-ID: Jon, I had an upper chain stretch and jump a tooth in my '70 2000 sometime around 1972. Back then I had no idea what the death rattle meant. I think at that time it cost me about $30 for a couple of new valves, gaskets, and timing chains. I can't remember if I changed any of the gears, but I remember correctly I did change the upper tensioner because the Datsun mechanic recommended it. If your not pulling RPM's I think I would look somewhere else. There have been a few discussions about carburetion, or ignition systems that could be doing this to you. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On 6/18/2010 9:25:01 AM, shas1983 at netzero.net wrote: Does anyone have any experience with a u20 cam timing being off 1 tooth or less? I have aligned the cam with TDC and counted chain links per the original service manual. The engine cranks easily and runs pretty well at lower rpms(under 3000), but seems to loose power and not readily want to climb to higher rpms under load at speed (free revs easily). The odd thing is I had to advance the distributor timing well past the std 16% to get the engine to run well. When I turn the engine over and stop it on #1 TDC per the crank the lobes of the cam on #1 appear to be silghtly advanced past 10 and 2 and the intake vale on #4 appears slighlty compressed more than #4 exhaust. It looks like they are advanced at most less than 1 full tooth (15% on 24 tooth sprocket), so I am wondering if the combination of a resurfaced head and cam tower shims could have changed the chain length enough to account for this? I have an adjustable cam sprocket that I can try (+- 6 degrees), but I was wondering if others have seen this before I change the sprocket. I would have expected the engine to run far worse than it does, but I have just about ruled everything else out. Seems good at lower rpms but just does not pull past 3000 rpms like it used to. Jon Carlisle From tom at datsun2000.com Sat Jun 19 18:23:43 2010 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 17:23:43 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] emergency road contact list Message-ID: Tim, The Emergency Road list does not live on 311s. When CalSpeed dropped it I picked it up and put back on the NOWROC web site. You will find it there. www.nowroc.org Tom On 6/17/2010 10:37:26 AM, Tim (tputland at charter.net) wrote: > Someone please send me a link to it. I cannot, for the life of me, find it > on the 311s site. (Not that I can ever find anything there.) > > Thanks > tim > _________________ From pat at hornesystemstx.com Sat Jun 19 18:42:48 2010 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:42:48 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 2010 Australian Datsun Roadster Nationals In-Reply-To: <43C0F99899064487868AF38A449B20AC@DaveJones> References: <43C0F99899064487868AF38A449B20AC@DaveJones> Message-ID: <4C1D6408.2040605@hornesystemstx.com> David, Thanks for putting these photos up. One thing though, it appears that somehow the photos got flipped, the steering wheels all seem to be on the right! Peace, Pat Thusly spake David Jones, On 6/19/2010 6:24 PM: > Howdy fellow Roadster enthusiasts'. > > > > Attached for your interest are a few of my photos from the Aussie 2010 > Datsun Roadster Nationals "Show and Shine" held in Geelong, Victoria, > Australia on the 12th of June. The weather was a bit "average" to start > with; however 50 Roadsters were in attendance along with the latest Nissan > 370Z Roadster courtesy of Nissan Australia. > > > > http://rides.webshots.com/album/577960247yIXLiu > > > > It was a great day! > > > > Regards, > > > > Dave > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/pat at hornesystemstx.com > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sat Jun 19 19:34:15 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 21:34:15 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Libre Wheels In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CCDE2FD3C89043-2048-28A77@webmail-m041.sysops.aol.com> Is the Libre the one that looks a bit like the Panasports? Linda -----Original Message----- From: Al Boettcher To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Jun 19, 2010 1:47 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Libre Wheels I have found a site that is remaking the classic Libra wheel in 14 and 15 in sizes with various widths www.vtowheels.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From AffordPlbg at aol.com Sat Jun 19 20:56:30 2010 From: AffordPlbg at aol.com (AffordPlbg at aol.com) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 22:56:30 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] 2010 Australian Datsun Roadster Nationals Message-ID: If you look at the photos in a mirror and they will look right. Cheers Gary In a message dated 6/19/2010 7:09:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pat at hornesystemstx.com writes: David, Thanks for putting these photos up. One thing though, it appears that somehow the photos got flipped, the steering wheels all seem to be on the right! Peace, Pat Thusly spake David Jones, On 6/19/2010 6:24 PM: > Howdy fellow Roadster enthusiasts'. > > > > Attached for your interest are a few of my photos from the Aussie 2010 > Datsun Roadster Nationals "Show and Shine" held in Geelong, Victoria, > Australia on the 12th of June. The weather was a bit "average" to start > with; however 50 Roadsters were in attendance along with the latest Nissan > 370Z Roadster courtesy of Nissan Australia. > > > > http://rides.webshots.com/album/577960247yIXLiu > > > > It was a great day! > > > > Regards, > > > > Dave > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/pat at hornesystemstx.com > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/affordplbg at aol.com From graemes at internode.on.net Sat Jun 19 21:11:28 2010 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 12:41:28 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] 2010 Australian Datsun Roadster Nationals In-Reply-To: <4C1D6408.2040605@hornesystemstx.com> References: <43C0F99899064487868AF38A449B20AC@DaveJones> <4C1D6408.2040605@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: No, sorry, WRONG!!! All those steering wheels are in their RIGHTful place ; ) "2010 Australian Datsun Roadster Nationals David, Thanks for putting these photos up. One thing though, it appears that somehow the photos got flipped, the steering wheels all seem to be on the right! Peace, Pat" From escanlon at wa-net.com Sun Jun 20 00:05:31 2010 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (Enrique) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 23:05:31 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 2010 Australian Datsun Roadster Nationals In-Reply-To: References: <43C0F99899064487868AF38A449B20AC@DaveJones><4C1D6408.2040605@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: <4E524471D186487FB97691E01C6017BB@EnriquePC> Technically, all those steering wheels are on the RIGHT side of the car... E From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sun Jun 20 00:07:26 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 23:07:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Libre Wheels In-Reply-To: <8CCDE2FD3C89043-2048-28A77@webmail-m041.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCDE2FD3C89043-2048-28A77@webmail-m041.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008901cb103e$dc235170$9469f450$@net> Nope. Completely different. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ljordan704 at netscape.net Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 6:34 PM To: roadsters311 at rogers.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Libre Wheels Is the Libre the one that looks a bit like the Panasports? Linda -----Original Message----- From: Al Boettcher To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Jun 19, 2010 1:47 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Libre Wheels I have found a site that is remaking the classic Libra wheel in 14 and 15 in sizes with various widths www.vtowheels.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.n e t ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From slowboy at cox.net Sun Jun 20 11:24:30 2010 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 10:24:30 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Libre Wheels In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001cb109d$711766a0$534633e0$@cox.net> So which sizes were a perfect fit on the roadster without rolling fender lips? -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Al Boettcher Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 1:48 PM To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Libre Wheels I have found a site that is remaking the classic Libra wheel in 14 and 15 in sizes with various widths www.vtowheels.com From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sun Jun 20 13:53:42 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 12:53:42 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Libre Wheels In-Reply-To: <008901cb103e$dc235170$9469f450$@net> References: <8CCDE2FD3C89043-2048-28A77@webmail-m041.sysops.aol.com> <008901cb103e$dc235170$9469f450$@net> Message-ID: <001901cb10b2$49a9a9b0$dcfcfd10$@net> VTO's Classic 8 is similar to Panasports. Their Retro 4 is similar to the American Racing Libre. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ljordan704 at netscape.net Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 6:34 PM To: roadsters311 at rogers.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Libre Wheels Is the Libre the one that looks a bit like the Panasports? Linda -----Original Message----- From: Al Boettcher To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Jun 19, 2010 1:47 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Libre Wheels I have found a site that is remaking the classic Libra wheel in 14 and 15 in sizes with various widths www.vtowheels.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.n e t ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Mon Jun 21 13:22:40 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:22:40 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Tyres - need suggestions to replace Message-ID: Currently running Yokohama H4 Avids 195/60/R14 - time to replace - i am an enthusiastic driver but not overly so. Suggestions ??? Thanks Peter (Eliza) From slowboy at cox.net Mon Jun 21 15:48:54 2010 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:48:54 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Steering Wheel Message-ID: <000301cb118b$8b30ab20$a1920160$@cox.net> Out of my price range but look at the horn button. http://tinyurl.com/25gsnrf eBay Item number: 160289287806 From keithddowning at yahoo.com Mon Jun 21 18:24:17 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 17:24:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Steering Wheel In-Reply-To: <000301cb118b$8b30ab20$a1920160$@cox.net> References: <000301cb118b$8b30ab20$a1920160$@cox.net> Message-ID: <408173.78760.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Pretty, but looks like a new set of carbs to me $$$ ________________________________ From: SlowBoy To: Datsun Roadsters Sent: Mon, June 21, 2010 2:48:54 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Steering Wheel Out of my price range but look at the horn button. http://tinyurl.com/25gsnrf eBay Item number: 160289287806 ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.com From ljordan704 at netscape.net Mon Jun 21 20:34:33 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:34:33 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Steering Wheel In-Reply-To: <408173.78760.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <000301cb118b$8b30ab20$a1920160$@cox.net> <408173.78760.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CCDFCA958009B9-BF8-42BA@webmail-d010.sysops.aol.com> Don't like the rivets or the white stripe around the inner diameter, and the wood does not look a s good as other wood wheels I've seen. Pass. Linda http://tinyurl.com/25gsnrf eBay Item number: 160289287806 ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.co m ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From jsk977 at optonline.net Mon Jun 21 21:24:24 2010 From: jsk977 at optonline.net (J KRAKAUER) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 23:24:24 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Steering Wheel References: <000301cb118b$8b30ab20$a1920160$@cox.net> <408173.78760.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I have a 14" leather wrapped Moto Lita with a silver/red version of the old emblem. Maybe I should take it off and put it on Ebay! BTW, bought it new in the early 70s and I'm pretty sure I paid under $50. Jerry Krakauer SRL311 00099 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Downing" To: "SlowBoy" Cc: "Datsun E-Mail List" Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Steering Wheel > Pretty, but looks like a new set of carbs to me $$$ From oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 22 02:59:23 2010 From: oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com (Matthew Cox) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 01:59:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Free body parts/chassis/stock rims in Phoenix Area Message-ID: <349557.30358.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hey all! I am moving soon and need to get rid of some stuff really quick. It's free! For body parts, I have a hood, trunk lid, and L/R front fenders from a '66. They all have tons of patina, but no rust through (other than one of the front fenders - can't remember which one). Free. I have several doors. Can't remember how many, but I have a few high windshield ones that have no rust or dents that you can have. I also have a '66 chassis that I need out of here. No rust. I need this one gone within the week or it unfortunately gets cut up and scrapped. I have many, many stock rims that came with a parts car and I have no use for them. Again, don't recall how many I have (12-15?), but if you're interested, they are yours. I also have a few other parts around here that I may need to get rid of a little later, so keep your ears open. Anyway, if you want any or all of this stuff, shoot me an email. First come, first served! I need it gone really quickly (within a week or two) because time is running out before our move! Sorry, everyone else, I just can't ship any of this. I'm just too busy getting everything else packed. Matthew... From patrickcomitale at yahoo.com Tue Jun 22 09:42:14 2010 From: patrickcomitale at yahoo.com (P C) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 08:42:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Parting out 1966 SPL311 Message-ID: <275199.45674.qm@web114110.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Parts for sale Alternator Distributor Radiator Radiator hoses top and bottom Overflow tank Airbox with filter Intake with su carbs Fuel sending unit Filler neck with breather hose Gas tank Gas tank straps J hooks Sending unit cover Center console Ashtray Shifter boot Shifter boot trim ring Glove box Glove box door Glove box door lock Dash Gauges Dash Switches Choke cable Tach cable Ignition with key Driver Seat Pass. Seat Steering wheel Horn button 14" steel wheels Wiper arms Wiper motor Water pump Thermostat housing Fan Fan pulley Hardtop Hood Doors Door Windows Quarter windows Quarter window frame Window regulators Roll up handle Door handles outside Door handles inside Door pull handles Door locks Door latch Bodyside door latch Door hinges Front grille Vent grille Trunk Trunk garnish Fender Trunk bars Seat belts Headlights Headlight buckets Front directional bezels Tail light housings and bezels Antenna Door sill plates Rocker sill plates Inside rocker trim 6 pieces From eddietude at socal.rr.com Tue Jun 22 09:45:32 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 08:45:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Free body parts/chassis/stock rims in Phoenix Area In-Reply-To: <349557.30358.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <349557.30358.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C20DA9C.9010205@socal.rr.com> You might want to post where the stuff is! \Matthew Cox wrote: > Hey all! I am moving soon and need to get rid of some stuff really quick. > It's free! > > For body parts, I have a hood, trunk lid, and L/R front fenders from a '66. > They all have tons of patina, but no rust through (other than one of the front > fenders - can't remember which one). Free. > > I have several doors. Can't remember how many, but I have a few high > windshield ones that have no rust or dents that you can have. > > I also have a '66 chassis that I need out of here. No rust. I need this one > gone within the week or it unfortunately gets cut up and scrapped. > > I have many, many stock rims that came with a parts car and I have no use for > them. Again, don't recall how many I have (12-15?), but if you're interested, > they are yours. > > I also have a few other parts around here that I may need to get rid of a > little later, so keep your ears open. > > Anyway, if you want any or all of this stuff, shoot me an email. First come, > first served! I need it gone really quickly (within a week or two) because > time is running out before our move! Sorry, everyone else, I just can't ship > any of this. I'm just too busy getting everything else packed. > > Matthew... > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From tputland at charter.net Tue Jun 22 10:19:52 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 12:19:52 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Free body parts/chassis/stock rims in Phoenix Area In-Reply-To: <4C20DA9C.9010205@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <20100622121952.NO95K.7963667.root@mp06> Subject line says "in Phoenix Area"............. ---- Eddie wrote: ============= You might want to post where the stuff is! \Matthew Cox wrote: > Hey all! I am moving soon and need to get rid of some stuff really quick. > It's free! > > For body parts, I have a hood, trunk lid, and L/R front fenders from a '66. > They all have tons of patina, but no rust through (other than one of the front > fenders - can't remember which one). Free. > > I have several doors. Can't remember how many, but I have a few high > windshield ones that have no rust or dents that you can have. > > I also have a '66 chassis that I need out of here. No rust. I need this one > gone within the week or it unfortunately gets cut up and scrapped. > > I have many, many stock rims that came with a parts car and I have no use for > them. Again, don't recall how many I have (12-15?), but if you're interested, > they are yours. > > I also have a few other parts around here that I may need to get rid of a > little later, so keep your ears open. > > Anyway, if you want any or all of this stuff, shoot me an email. First come, > first served! I need it gone really quickly (within a week or two) because > time is running out before our move! Sorry, everyone else, I just can't ship > any of this. I'm just too busy getting everything else packed. > > Matthew... > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From eddietude at socal.rr.com Tue Jun 22 10:24:39 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:24:39 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Free body parts/chassis/stock rims in Phoenix Area In-Reply-To: <20100622121952.NO95K.7963667.root@mp06> References: <20100622121952.NO95K.7963667.root@mp06> Message-ID: <4C20E3C7.4060101@socal.rr.com> Yeah, just caught that... I don't usually read subject lines! LOL Tim wrote: > Subject line says "in Phoenix Area"............. > > > ---- Eddie wrote: > > ============= > You might want to post where the stuff is! > > > \Matthew Cox wrote: > >> Hey all! I am moving soon and need to get rid of some stuff really quick. >> It's free! >> >> For body parts, I have a hood, trunk lid, and L/R front fenders from a '66. >> They all have tons of patina, but no rust through (other than one of the front >> fenders - can't remember which one). Free. >> >> I have several doors. Can't remember how many, but I have a few high >> windshield ones that have no rust or dents that you can have. >> >> I also have a '66 chassis that I need out of here. No rust. I need this one >> gone within the week or it unfortunately gets cut up and scrapped. >> >> I have many, many stock rims that came with a parts car and I have no use for >> them. Again, don't recall how many I have (12-15?), but if you're interested, >> they are yours. >> >> I also have a few other parts around here that I may need to get rid of a >> little later, so keep your ears open. >> >> Anyway, if you want any or all of this stuff, shoot me an email. First come, >> first served! I need it gone really quickly (within a week or two) because >> time is running out before our move! Sorry, everyone else, I just can't ship >> any of this. I'm just too busy getting everything else packed. >> >> Matthew... >> ________________________________________ >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com >> > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com Tue Jun 22 10:25:37 2010 From: vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com (Vince Strazzabosco) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Free body parts/chassis/stock rims in Phoenix Area In-Reply-To: <349557.30358.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <458135.54501.qm@web33504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I would be interested in some of the parts to replace rusted ones on my '66. I can probably find someone nearby to ship them or haul them to me in IL. Front fenders, and possibly the frame if I can get someone soon enough. if they're not already spoken for, that is. Thanks, vince --- On Tue, 6/22/10, Matthew Cox wrote: > From: Matthew Cox > Subject: [Roadsters] Free body parts/chassis/stock rims in Phoenix Area > To: "roadster list" > Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 3:59 AM > Hey all! I am moving soon and > need to get rid of some stuff really quick. > It's free! > > For body parts, I have a hood, trunk lid, and L/R front > fenders from a '66. > They all have tons of patina, but no rust through (other > than one of the front > fenders - can't remember which one). Free. > > I have several doors. Can't remember how many, but I have a > few high > windshield ones that have no rust or dents that you can > have. > > I also have a '66 chassis that I need out of here. No rust. > I need this one > gone within the week or it unfortunately gets cut up and > scrapped. > > I have many, many stock rims that came with a parts car and > I have no use for > them. Again, don't recall how many I have (12-15?), but if > you're interested, > they are yours. > > I also have a few other parts around here that I may need > to get rid of a > little later, so keep your ears open. > > Anyway, if you want any or all of this stuff, shoot me an > email. First come, > first served! I need it gone really quickly (within a > week or two) because > time is running out before our move! Sorry, everyone else, > I just can't ship > any of this. I'm just too busy getting everything else > packed. > > Matthew... > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/vstrazzabosco at yahoo.co m From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Jun 22 12:19:59 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:19:59 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] FutoFab has VTO Wheels (was "Libre Wheels") Message-ID: <006301cb1237$86a2d270$93e87750$@net> FYI. From: bluebirds-request at bluebirds.datsun510.com [mailto:bluebirds-request at bluebirds.datsun510.com] On Behalf Of Dave Patten Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 10:58 AM To: BB List Subject: FutoFab has VTO Wheels (was: OT (sorta) Libre reproductions anyone?) Guys, If you are interested in ANY VTO Wheel - FutoFab is an authorized VTO dealer. The Retro 4 (Libre look-a like) is currently available in 13"x5.5" and 14"x5.5" sizes only with the first shipment due to the distributor at any time. Their Classic 8 (Panasport look-a-like) is available now, but only in a 15" x 6" size. The 15x7 sizes will be coming in the next few months. The lugs are conical not the sleeve type as used on the original Libres. The manufacturer installs steel inserts into the lug holes so the lugnut makes steel on steel contact, no more galled and distorted lug holes. They also do NOT clearcoat the lug and mounting surfaces. This assures correct fitment and no chances of loosening from the clearcoating getting squeezed out during use. You know how most wheel manufacturers say to re-torque the wheels after so many miles of use. That is because they clearcoat these surfaces, causing clamping issues and the wheels to loosen when first installed. This is just a couple of the details that VTO focuses on to make their product a step ahead of others. FutoFab just last week entered into a dealership agreement with VTO Wheels and can now make these wheel available to you. We are working out the final details and avalability schedule on added sizes including 13x7 and 15x7. I was hoping to have all the details in place before annoucing this new prduct line from FutoFab, but you guys on the Bluebird List are all over it before I could get my ducks in a line. Manufacturer's website; www.vtowheels.com The following Classic 8 or Retro 4 wheels (silver or black centers) are avalble thru FutoFab at the following prices plus S&H. 13 x 5.5 (Retro 4) -- $145/ea 14 x 5.5 (Retro 4) -- $165/ea 15 x 6.0 (Classic 8)- $180/ea I will be annoucing dates for the release of additional sizes as soon as I can get them. If you are ineterested in purchasing from FutoFab please contact me at Dave at FutoFab.com Dave Patten Dunbarton, NH www.FutoFab.com From rksmith46 at hotmail.com Tue Jun 22 20:37:15 2010 From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:37:15 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] u20 cam timing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hi jon, if the intermediate shaft, big gear is a tooth off, it will throw the cam gear 1/2 a tooth off. i ran into this quite afew years ago. good luck, bob smith, ohio > From: tom at datsun2000.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; shas1983 at netzero.net > Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 17:21:16 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] u20 cam timing > > Jon, > > I had an upper chain stretch and jump a tooth in my '70 2000 sometime around > 1972. Back then I had no idea what the death rattle meant. I think at that > time it cost me about $30 for a couple of new valves, gaskets, and timing > chains. I can't remember if I changed any of the gears, but I remember > correctly I did change the upper tensioner because the Datsun mechanic > recommended it. > > If your not pulling RPM's I think I would look somewhere else. There have > been a few discussions about carburetion, or ignition systems that could be > doing this to you. > > Tom > 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde > Portland > http://www.datsun2000.com > http://www.nowroc.org > > > On 6/18/2010 9:25:01 AM, shas1983 at netzero.net wrote: > Does anyone have any experience with a u20 cam timing being off 1 tooth or > less? I have aligned the cam with TDC and counted chain links per the > original > service manual. The engine cranks easily and runs pretty well at lower > rpms(under 3000), but seems to loose power and not readily want to climb to > higher rpms under load at speed (free revs easily). The odd thing is I had > to > advance the distributor timing well past the std 16% to get the engine to > run > well. > > When I turn the engine over and stop it on #1 TDC per the crank the lobes of > the cam on #1 appear to be silghtly advanced past 10 and 2 and the intake > vale > on #4 appears slighlty compressed more than #4 exhaust. It looks like they > are > advanced at most less than 1 full tooth (15% on 24 tooth sprocket), so I am > wondering if the combination of a resurfaced head and cam tower shims could > have changed the chain length enough to account for this? > > I have an adjustable cam sprocket that I can try (+- 6 degrees), but I was > wondering if others have seen this before I change the sprocket. I would > have > expected the engine to run far worse than it does, but I have just about > ruled > everything else out. Seems good at lower rpms but just does not pull past > 3000 > rpms like it used to. > > Jon Carlisle > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rksmith46 at hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID283 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 From alvingogi at hotmail.com Wed Jun 23 00:03:00 2010 From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 06:03:00 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Palo Alto Concours d' Elegance June 27 Message-ID: This Sunday, Stanford University will once again host the concours from 7am to 4:30pm.A few cars from ZCarGarage have been invited to be part of the display for Japanese cars. This event is held in very high regard in the automotive community and the level of cars that are brought out definitely reflect this. For example: The PA Concours is an authorized Auburn, Cord, and Duesenberg club meet. These cars are extremely rare and valuable, and they dont get shown all that often, so dont miss the chance to see these beauties in person.The show isnt ready to allow Japanese cars to be entered for judging just yet, but we are happy that they are beginning to realize the historical importance of these cars in the big picture. Please visit their website below for all the links and information.http://www.paconcours.com/ Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 From aultgc at att.net Wed Jun 23 00:51:33 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 01:51:33 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Steering Wheel References: <000301cb118b$8b30ab20$a1920160$@cox.net> Message-ID: PayPal only? Nuts to him. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "SlowBoy" To: "Datsun Roadsters" Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 4:48 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Steering Wheel > Out of my price range but look at the horn button. > > > > http://tinyurl.com/25gsnrf > > > > > eBay Item number: > > 160289287806 > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From tputland at charter.net Wed Jun 23 07:59:48 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 6:59:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] is the list quiet or down? Message-ID: <20100623095948.D31SF.5629124.root@mp11> I haven't seen anything in a couple days? "Is there anybody, out there?" From RSCHLEGEL at OCSD.COM Wed Jun 23 08:00:20 2010 From: RSCHLEGEL at OCSD.COM (Schlegel, Richard) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 07:00:20 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1968 Datsun For sale. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7205D7C8DE0E724A8EBBB88675FBE8CC05C517B126@e07ms1.insideocsd.com> For Sale $1000 o.b.o (Plates NOT included) 1968 Datsun Roadster SPL311-18910 R16 engine #61234, SUs with a 4 speed tranny. Sold Hardtop but I have the soft top mechanism. Yes it has rust in all the usual places. Slotted 240Z rims. Tires are good. Please look at the pictures BEFORE calling. http://picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich/1968Datsun Rich Schlegel Buena Park, CA 714-five two seven-5183 iamrockinrich at gmail.com From fj201 at cox.net Wed Jun 23 08:26:17 2010 From: fj201 at cox.net (Ron Hamilton) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 07:26:17 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] is the list quiet or down? In-Reply-To: <20100623095948.D31SF.5629124.root@mp11> References: <20100623095948.D31SF.5629124.root@mp11> Message-ID: <4C221989.5080405@cox.net> Just us "lurkers" *Ron Hamilton Ron's Little Machine Shop Mesa,AZ* On 6/23/2010 6:59 AM, Tim wrote: > I haven't seen anything in a couple days? > > "Is there anybody, out there?" > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/fj201 at cox.net From Brad at lustigconsultingllc.com Wed Jun 23 08:26:37 2010 From: Brad at lustigconsultingllc.com (Brad Lustig (brad@lustigconsultingllc.com)) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:26:37 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] is the list quiet or down? In-Reply-To: <20100623095948.D31SF.5629124.root@mp11> References: <20100623095948.D31SF.5629124.root@mp11> Message-ID: <191D00BEB7748342820D55C9DBF97EEE46FB04C09D@LCLLC-SERVER.lcllc.local> ECHO...Echo...echo -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 10:00 AM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] is the list quiet or down? I haven't seen anything in a couple days? "Is there anybody, out there?" ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/brad at lustigconsultingl lc.com From ljordan704 at netscape.net Wed Jun 23 08:52:07 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:52:07 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] is the list quiet or down? In-Reply-To: <191D00BEB7748342820D55C9DBF97EEE46FB04C09D@LCLLC-SERVER.lcllc.local> References: <20100623095948.D31SF.5629124.root@mp11> <191D00BEB7748342820D55C9DBF97EEE46FB04C09D@LCLLC-SERVER.lcllc.local> Message-ID: <8CCE0FAC8E7B9CD-134C-B72E@Webmail-m119.sysops.aol.com> It's here. Ask a question. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Brad Lustig (brad at lustigconsultingllc.com) To: 'Tim' ; 'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net' Sent: Wed, Jun 23, 2010 7:26 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] is the list quiet or down? ECHO...Echo...echo -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 10:00 AM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] is the list quiet or down? I haven't seen anything in a couple days? "Is there anybody, out there?" ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/brad at lustigconsultingl lc.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From ncoonen at fastbears.com Wed Jun 23 08:55:06 2010 From: ncoonen at fastbears.com (ncoonen at fastbears.com) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:55:06 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] is the list quiet or down? In-Reply-To: <20100623095948.D31SF.5629124.root@mp11> References: <20100623095948.D31SF.5629124.root@mp11> Message-ID: <20100623105506.12415p1ckrflw7re@webmail.fastbears.com> I'm still trying to figure out how to make Phoenix closer to Chicago so Vince S. and I can score some body parts from the Matthew's stash that's up for grabs. $600+ in gas for my truck for a 3,500 mile round trip makes the free parts not so free. Plus, four days on the road would certainly get me comfortably numb.../ You//'re only coming through in waves/. Your lips move but I can't hear what you're saying. Please carry on...ned. '69 2000 with a few issues to resolve Quoting Tim : > I haven't seen anything in a couple days? > > "Is there anybody, out there?" From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Jun 23 09:38:19 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 08:38:19 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] is the list quiet or down? In-Reply-To: <20100623095948.D31SF.5629124.root@mp11> References: <20100623095948.D31SF.5629124.root@mp11> Message-ID: <004901cb12ea$1b9afb20$52d0f160$@net> Shhhhhh! You'll wake them. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:00 AM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] is the list quiet or down? I haven't seen anything in a couple days? "Is there anybody, out there?" ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Wed Jun 23 10:17:42 2010 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:17:42 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 375k for a Japanese sports car! Yeah, baby! Message-ID: And some thought that "classic" and "Japanese car" shouldn't be used in the same sentence. This is one of my favorite "daily posts", even though their selections of "bring a trailer projects" is tending lately toward the high-dollar driveable classic. In any case, a low mileage Toyota 2000GT, repatriated from Japan, 375k!! (and in one of the letters at the bottom, someone "researched" recent sales and found this to be midrange for these within the last year) http://bringatrailer.com/2010/06/21/bat-exclusive-preserved-1967-toyota- 2000gt/ Too bad it couldn't be driven more, as I certainly wouldn't want to go replacement panel shopping for this one. From datrock at centurytel.net Wed Jun 23 10:15:44 2010 From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 09:15:44 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] is the list quiet or down? In-Reply-To: <004901cb12ea$1b9afb20$52d0f160$@net> References: <20100623095948.D31SF.5629124.root@mp11> <004901cb12ea$1b9afb20$52d0f160$@net> Message-ID: <4C223330.9020102@centurytel.net> We're all working on our Roadster... Isn't that right Pete..LOL... Bill From svedise at hotmail.com Wed Jun 23 10:38:15 2010 From: svedise at hotmail.com (Jim Svedise) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 09:38:15 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] is the list quiet or down? In-Reply-To: <004901cb12ea$1b9afb20$52d0f160$@net> References: <20100623095948.D31SF.5629124.root@mp11> <004901cb12ea$1b9afb20$52d0f160$@net> Message-ID: Well you woke me up so lets see it's 105 down here (San Carlos, Mexico). It's to hot to drive the Datsun so we just hang around the pool or go boating or watch TV (sleep in front of it) all day. Jim > Shhhhhh! You'll wake them. > > Pete > > > I haven't seen anything in a couple days? > > "Is there anybody, out there?" From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Wed Jun 23 11:00:30 2010 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:00:30 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] backroads driving event pics, MotherLode 400 Message-ID: While I didn't go on this particular one (and don't see any roadsters in the pics), I'd have to say I have done a few of these, and they are complete blast. Multi-day, very informal, pick how much of the route you want to do, an eclectic car mix, and a bunch of gearheads of varying mechanical background make for great bench-racing. There are always the gung-ho fast group, as well as the "I don't drive on bumpy roads" group, but that will always be. http://www.flickr.com/photos/68144590 at N00/collections/72157624204585669/ This particular one ( MotherLode 400 ) is in the Gold Country of NorCal. Down South way these get scheduledover Sunday/Monday to avoid busy weekend traffic. 350 miles/day has been found to be about right, so that all can arrive at the destination in time for bench-racing and clean-up before meal time. I have found that without a GPS, and traveling single-handed, (and with a trip counter that is 20% off - so that at each crossroads I am writing down the offset between actual vs predicted mileage) is a bit of a handful, but nothing a pair of "chip clips" holding the directions in the center of the steering wheel didn't cure. I encourage anyone who hasn't tried one to join in. None available? Start one, it is as simple as "we start here at this time, and can stay in this town" and provide a list of roadside motels, although one I went on had a pre-paid dinner provided at the motel, which made for the best cameraderie. Always encouraging more miles, (to justify my lack of contiguous surfaces of pristine paint) Fergus O (hint: the SoCal TT is October 10/11 this year) From d_kroninger at hotmail.com Wed Jun 23 11:38:47 2010 From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:38:47 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] backroads driving event pics, MotherLode 400 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That looks like a fun bunch of cars. I believe that the Volvo PV444 "#263" was a recent BaT sale, wasn't it? At least is looks like one that was recently sold there anyway. Sounds like a lot of fun! > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:00:30 -0500 > From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] backroads driving event pics, MotherLode 400 > > While I didn't go on this particular one (and don't see any roadsters in > the pics), I'd have to say I have done a few of these, and they are > complete blast. > Multi-day, very informal, pick how much of the route you want to do, an > eclectic car mix, and a bunch of gearheads of varying mechanical > background make for great bench-racing. > > There are always the gung-ho fast group, as well as the "I don't drive > on bumpy roads" group, but that will always be. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/68144590 at N00/collections/72157624204585669/ > > This particular one ( MotherLode 400 ) is in the Gold Country of NorCal. > Down South way these get scheduledover Sunday/Monday to avoid busy > weekend traffic. > 350 miles/day has been found to be about right, so that all can arrive > at the destination in time for bench-racing and clean-up before meal > time. > > I have found that without a GPS, and traveling single-handed, (and with > a trip counter that is 20% off - so that at each crossroads I am writing > down the offset between actual vs predicted mileage) is a bit of a > handful, but nothing a pair of "chip clips" holding the directions in > the center of the steering wheel didn't cure. > > I encourage anyone who hasn't tried one to join in. None available? > Start one, it is as simple as "we start here at this time, and can stay > in this town" and provide a list of roadside motels, although one I went > on had a pre-paid dinner provided at the motel, which made for the best > cameraderie. > > Always encouraging more miles, (to justify my lack of contiguous > surfaces of pristine paint) > Fergus O > (hint: the SoCal TT is October 10/11 this year) > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/d_kroninger at hotmail.co m _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 From phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov Wed Jun 23 11:41:23 2010 From: phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED10)) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:41:23 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] is the list quiet or down? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I agree - 97 here in Alabama with humidity so at 107 with heat index. Yep - work, home, pool,,,, Roadster is topless in the garage - like all pretty women should be in weather like this... :) On 6/23/10 11:38 AM, "Jim Svedise" wrote: > Well you woke me up so lets see it's 105 down here (San Carlos, Mexico). > It's to hot to drive the Datsun so we just hang around the pool or go > boating or watch TV (sleep in front of it) all day. > > Jim > > >> Shhhhhh! You'll wake them. >> >> Pete >> >> >> I haven't seen anything in a couple days? >> >> "Is there anybody, out there?" > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/phillip.b.hall at msfc.na s > a.gov From tputland at charter.net Wed Jun 23 12:32:43 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:32:43 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] backroads driving event pics, MotherLode 400 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20100623143243.TVFG4.5643672.root@mp11> I see a Roadster in the Sunday batch......... Tim Dairyland Datsuns ---- "O'Farrell wrote: ============= While I didn't go on this particular one (and don't see any roadsters in the pics), I'd have to say I have done a few of these, and they are complete blast. Multi-day, very informal, pick how much of the route you want to do, an eclectic car mix, and a bunch of gearheads of varying mechanical background make for great bench-racing. There are always the gung-ho fast group, as well as the "I don't drive on bumpy roads" group, but that will always be. http://www.flickr.com/photos/68144590 at N00/collections/72157624204585669/ This particular one ( MotherLode 400 ) is in the Gold Country of NorCal. Down South way these get scheduledover Sunday/Monday to avoid busy weekend traffic. 350 miles/day has been found to be about right, so that all can arrive at the destination in time for bench-racing and clean-up before meal time. I have found that without a GPS, and traveling single-handed, (and with a trip counter that is 20% off - so that at each crossroads I am writing down the offset between actual vs predicted mileage) is a bit of a handful, but nothing a pair of "chip clips" holding the directions in the center of the steering wheel didn't cure. I encourage anyone who hasn't tried one to join in. None available? Start one, it is as simple as "we start here at this time, and can stay in this town" and provide a list of roadside motels, although one I went on had a pre-paid dinner provided at the motel, which made for the best cameraderie. Always encouraging more miles, (to justify my lack of contiguous surfaces of pristine paint) Fergus O (hint: the SoCal TT is October 10/11 this year) ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From patrickcomitale at yahoo.com Wed Jun 23 12:35:51 2010 From: patrickcomitale at yahoo.com (P C) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] SPL311 NY Message-ID: <566002.87803.qm@web114101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Parting Out 1966 SPL311 In Upstate NY I uploaded some photos here: picasaweb.google.com/101278287028344322083 From ljordan704 at netscape.net Wed Jun 23 16:08:18 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 18:08:18 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] backroads driving event pics, MotherLode 400 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CCE137B86B476B-1768-1E54@Webmail-m123.sysops.aol.com> River rafting up in that area is a complete blast. Linda -----Original Message----- From: O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS) To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Jun 23, 2010 10:00 am Subject: [Roadsters] backroads driving event pics, MotherLode 400 While I didn't go on this particular one (and don't see any roadsters in the pics), I'd have to say I have done a few of these, and they are complete blast. Multi-day, very informal, pick how much of the route you want to do, an eclectic car mix, and a bunch of gearheads of varying mechanical background make for great bench-racing. There are always the gung-ho fast group, as well as the "I don't drive on bumpy roads" group, but that will always be. http://www.flickr.com/photos/68144590 at N00/collections/72157624204585669/ This particular one ( MotherLode 400 ) is in the Gold Country of NorCal. Down South way these get scheduledover Sunday/Monday to avoid busy weekend traffic. 350 miles/day has been found to be about right, so that all can arrive at the destination in time for bench-racing and clean-up before meal time. I have found that without a GPS, and traveling single-handed, (and with a trip counter that is 20% off - so that at each crossroads I am writing down the offset between actual vs predicted mileage) is a bit of a handful, but nothing a pair of "chip clips" holding the directions in the center of the steering wheel didn't cure. I encourage anyone who hasn't tried one to join in. None available? Start one, it is as simple as "we start here at this time, and can stay in this town" and provide a list of roadside motels, although one I went on had a pre-paid dinner provided at the motel, which made for the best cameraderie. Always encouraging more miles, (to justify my lack of contiguous surfaces of pristine paint) Fergus O (hint: the SoCal TT is October 10/11 this year) ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Jun 23 17:07:30 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:07:30 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Really cool Cadillac Commercial filmed in China Message-ID: <009a01cb1328$db8a3ac0$929eb040$@net> Very cool: Enjoy the Ride! Pete From tim at jnford.com Thu Jun 24 11:05:34 2010 From: tim at jnford.com (Tim North) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 12:05:34 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Steering Wheel References: <000301cb118b$8b30ab20$a1920160$@cox.net><408173.78760.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1BC6B48D63E5480FB50E990657805BB1@JohnNorth.local> I still like my Formuling France steering wheel better. ----- Original Message ----- From: "J KRAKAUER" To: "Keith Downing" ; "SlowBoy" Cc: "Datsun E-Mail List" Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Steering Wheel >I have a 14" leather wrapped Moto Lita with a silver/red version of the old >emblem. Maybe I should take it off and put it on Ebay! BTW, bought it new >in the early 70s and I'm pretty sure I paid under $50. > > Jerry Krakauer > SRL311 00099 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Downing" > To: "SlowBoy" > Cc: "Datsun E-Mail List" > Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 8:24 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Steering Wheel > > >> Pretty, but looks like a new set of carbs to me $$$ From gcallahan at prodigy.net Thu Jun 24 14:38:58 2010 From: gcallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:38:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Hydraulic Clutch System: Master or Slave Cylinder? Message-ID: <924038.93606.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My clutch actuator suddenly has an issue. After a very short period of none use (sometimes just a few miles between stops) I have to pump the clutch pedal to get the clutch to work. It does not appear that any fluid is leaking from the system, I don't have to add any fluid to the Master Cylinder, and I don't see any leaking or puddling anywhere. How do I determine which cylinder to fix? Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 From sandhoff at csus.edu Thu Jun 24 16:24:23 2010 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:24:23 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Hydraulic Clutch System: Master or Slave Cylinder? In-Reply-To: <924038.93606.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C2378A7.32039.134C038@localhost> > How do I determine which cylinder to fix? It's your master. If it were the slave, the fluid can only do two things: Push the piston, actuating the clutch Leak around the piston, losing fluid. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From gcallahan at prodigy.net Thu Jun 24 18:06:52 2010 From: gcallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 17:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Gauge Sending Unit Electrical Connections Message-ID: <418835.21604.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My fuel gauge does not work, and my odometer does not work either, so knowing how much fuel is in the car is often iffy. I have just replaced the sending unit in the fuel tank and the fuel gauge still does not function (the needle never moves from the no power position, empty); so I figure it is either a bad wire or a bad gauge in the dash. The electrical connections at the sending unit do not fit very tight and I would like to replace them. Does anybody know where I might find the "sideways" slide on connectors? Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 From antonywardle at gmail.com Thu Jun 24 18:41:29 2010 From: antonywardle at gmail.com (antony wardle) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:41:29 +1000 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Gauge Sending Unit Electrical Connections In-Reply-To: <418835.21604.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <418835.21604.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Did you try putting 12 volts through the gauge to see if it moves? I'd guess a bad ground seems to be the cause of most faults I have the same problem my self kiwi On 25 June 2010 10:06, Gary Callahan wrote: > My fuel gauge does not work, and my odometer does not work either, so > knowing > how much fuel is in the car is often iffy. I have just replaced the > sending > unit in the fuel tank and the fuel gauge still does not function (the > needle > never moves from the no power position, empty); so I figure it is either a > bad > wire or a bad gauge in the dash. The electrical connections at the sending > unit do not fit very tight and I would like to replace them. Does anybody > know where I might find the "sideways" slide on connectors? > > > > Gary Callahan > Beaverton, Oregon > > 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster > SPL311-18665 > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/antonywardle at gmail.com From pat at hornesystemstx.com Thu Jun 24 19:58:35 2010 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:58:35 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Gauge Sending Unit Electrical Connections In-Reply-To: <418835.21604.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <418835.21604.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C240D4B.3070900@hornesystemstx.com> Gary, Does you temperature gauge work? In addition to the sender and the gauge, there is a voltage regulator for the fuel gauge and the temperature gauge, it is located on the steering column, right behind the dash. It must be grounded and the two wires must go to the correct terminal. One way to determine if the problem is with the tank is to remove the wire on the insulated pin on the top of the tank and ground it to the body. If the gauge goes to full,the problem is at the tank. If not, it is at the dash. Are the right angle connectors you are talking about the flag terminal type? if so you can get replacements at most auto parts houses, or just crimp them a bit with a pair of pliers and slide them back on. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Gary Callahan, On 6/24/2010 7:06 PM: > My fuel gauge does not work, and my odometer does not work either, so knowing > how much fuel is in the car is often iffy. I have just replaced the sending > unit in the fuel tank and the fuel gauge still does not function (the needle > never moves from the no power position, empty); so I figure it is either a bad > wire or a bad gauge in the dash. The electrical connections at the sending > unit do not fit very tight and I would like to replace them. Does anybody > know where I might find the "sideways" slide on connectors? > > > > Gary Callahan > Beaverton, Oregon > > 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster > SPL311-18665 > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/pat at hornesystemstx.com > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From gcallahan at prodigy.net Fri Jun 25 16:44:21 2010 From: gcallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch Master Cylinder Removal? Message-ID: <592490.11952.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Now the next step in the saga of attempting to fix my clutch actuating problem. I am attempting to remove the clutch master cylinder and I have hit a roadblock. I have removed the two nuts holding the assembly to the firewall and disconnected the line that leads down to the slave cylinder; but I cannot pull the master cylinder off of the firewall. How do I get it off the firewall? Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 From gcallahan at prodigy.net Fri Jun 25 16:56:47 2010 From: gcallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:56:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch Master Cylinder Removal? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <362231.35631.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes I removed the pin connecting the pedal assembly to the clutch master cylinder assembly. That pin is badly worn; are they still available from Nissan? Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 --- On Fri, 6/25/10, Jim Svedise wrote: From: Jim Svedise Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Clutch Master Cylinder Removal? To: "Gary Callahan" Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 3:54 PM did you remove the pin to clutch pedal? Jim -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary Callahan" Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 3:44 PM To: Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch Master Cylinder Removal? > Now the next step in the saga of attempting to fix my clutch actuating > problem. I am attempting to remove the clutch master cylinder and I have hit > a roadblock. I have removed the two nuts holding the assembly to the firewall > and disconnected the line that leads down to the slave cylinder; but I cannot > pull the master cylinder off of the firewall. How do I get it off the > firewall? > > > > Gary Callahan > Beaverton, Oregon > > 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster > SPL311-18665 > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/svedise at hotmail.com From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri Jun 25 18:02:33 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 17:02:33 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch Master Cylinder Removal? In-Reply-To: <362231.35631.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <362231.35631.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004a01cb14c2$e15a8d10$a40fa730$@net> There might be some corrosion/rust where the clutch m/c meets the firewall. Tap it from the pedal side to loosen it. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Callahan Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 3:57 PM To: Jim Svedise; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Clutch Master Cylinder Removal? Yes I removed the pin connecting the pedal assembly to the clutch master cylinder assembly. That pin is badly worn; are they still available from Nissan? Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 -----Original Message----- From: Jim Svedise Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Clutch Master Cylinder Removal? To: "Gary Callahan" Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 3:54 PM did you remove the pin to clutch pedal? Jim -----Original Message----- From: "Gary Callahan" Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 3:44 PM To: Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch Master Cylinder Removal? Now the next step in the saga of attempting to fix my clutch actuating problem. I am attempting to remove the clutch master cylinder and I have hit a roadblock. I have removed the two nuts holding the assembly to the firewall and disconnected the line that leads down to the slave cylinder; but I cannot pull the master cylinder off of the firewall. How do I get it off the firewall? Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 From ljordan704 at netscape.net Fri Jun 25 19:03:46 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 21:03:46 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch Master Cylinder Removal? In-Reply-To: <362231.35631.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CCE2E2907D062D-1EA4-BBC8@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> Gary, You can get a similar sized pin at Home Depot, just take it in. Also if the hole in the pedal arm is ovaled it should be repaired. It can make a difference in how the clutch master works and sometimes that is all that needs to be fixed. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Gary Callahan To: Jim Svedise ; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:56 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Clutch Master Cylinder Removal? Yes I removed the pin connecting the pedal assembly to the clutch master cylinder assembly. That pin is badly worn; are they still available from Nissan? Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 --- On Fri, 6/25/10, Jim Svedise wrote: From: Jim Svedise Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Clutch Master Cylinder Removal? To: "Gary Callahan" Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 3:54 PM did you remove the pin to clutch pedal? Jim -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary Callahan" Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 3:44 PM To: Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch Master Cylinder Removal? > Now the next step in the saga of attempting to fix my clutch actuating > problem. I am attempting to remove the clutch master cylinder and I have hit > a roadblock. I have removed the two nuts holding the assembly to the firewall > and disconnected the line that leads down to the slave cylinder; but I cannot > pull the master cylinder off of the firewall. How do I get it off the > firewall? > > > > Gary Callahan > Beaverton, Oregon > > 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster > SPL311-18665 > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/svedise at hotmail.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From graemes at internode.on.net Fri Jun 25 19:13:57 2010 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 10:43:57 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch Master Cylinder Removal? In-Reply-To: <362231.35631.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <362231.35631.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <098F83AB14A84AAC928F2A3DD469DF63@desktop> If the pin is worn and the hole ovalled out like mine was, drill the pedal hole out to a circle againe and fit an oversized pin. "Yes I removed the pin connecting the pedal assembly to the clutch master cylinder assembly. That pin is badly worn; are they still available from Nissan? Gary Callahan" From roadster68 at shaw.ca Sat Jun 26 10:03:29 2010 From: roadster68 at shaw.ca (Larry Dziuba) Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 10:03:29 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] 5 Speed Tranny Troubles References: <592490.11952.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Wow! It has been quite a while since I got into this email list. I have had this tranny problem for quite some time. Roadster is restored. Had tranny checked out by a local shop. I did give them the heads up about the "fifth gear" problem etc. They thought everything looked good and resealed the unit. My problem is that if I up and down shift while running the engine a bit hard that it tends to lock up. It will shift fine a lower revs in all gears. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Larry. From alvingogi at hotmail.com Mon Jun 28 01:19:18 2010 From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 07:19:18 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Palo Alto Concours D'Elegance pictures!!! Message-ID: Full-Album here: http://rides.webshots.com/album/578029784KFFyws This was my first Concours D' Elegance, and first time for the roadster! We left ZCarGarage at 7am with three 240z cars and the roadster, weather was nice but it did warm up to ~97 F at show. As we entered the corral we were greeted with a bottle of wine! Remember, I'm not used to this kind of treatment...these big-time show car guys know how to do it :D Attendants direct us to our staging spot, right next to the Cadillacs and Ferrari's, that's right Japanese classic cars deserve a share of the spotlight too! There is a 2000GT already there! The lineup included from left to right: '67 Toyota 2000GT, '68 Honda S800, '71 Skyline GT-R, '71 240z(RB26DETT), '71 240z(EFI), '67 Roadster(SR), '71 240z, and a '73 'Rolla People were smitten with the display. I could hear memories being conjured, stories being swapped. It was great exposure for our cars, and quite endearing to see this happen amongst all of the high dollar iron surrounding us :D Rob told me that the GT-R in the group was real, and it had an S20. I nearly lost it. I had to see it. The owner also has a real Z432, and the Kenimeri Skyline! Anyway the hood opens and there it is in all it's twincam glory...the mighty S20: It's a visual feast, but so is the rest of the car, even the underbody. Look at the finned diff cover. All parts that were original or available at the time...very cool stuff. After I took it all in , I figured it was time to check out the "other" cars, and I can't describe or include all of the wonderful machines so I will just list my favorites. 300Sls and Gulwings as far as the eye could see: I really liked this Guiletta Sprint, the lines were so pretty: The invitation included lunch, drinks and shade. We sat with David Swig and chatted about Japanese cars at more events. Easily one of the best shows I've been to. Big thanks to David Swig for inviting us and making a Japanese vintage car presence possible at this event! Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 From wilhouse at charter.net Mon Jun 28 08:24:10 2010 From: wilhouse at charter.net (Ken & Tammy Williams) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:24:10 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Mythbusters in Ohio Message-ID: Hey, Just returned last night from the weekend at Mid Ohio. We had a great time, but more on that later... As we were driving through western Ohio, we had the chance to test a Mythbusters myth. Yep, driving a convertible through a downpour and staying dry. I can attest that at 60-70-ish, low windshield roadster, top down, in rain so hard I could barely see 10 feet in front of the car, we stayed relatively dry. Had I thought of rolling up the side windows....we would have been much dryer. We had just passed the front apparently, as the wind was suddenly blowing more around our backs when we saw the curtain of water in front of us. No place to stop to avoid it, so we pushed forward. I am still a little amazed that it could be raining that hard and how relatively dry we stayed. TaDaaaaa!!!! Ken Williams Janesville, WI From 9laser3 at bright.net Mon Jun 28 09:11:37 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:11:37 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Mythbusters in Ohio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001201cb16d4$352fe440$9f8facc0$@net> That wasn't a rain storm; it was your free MidOhio car wash. Comes with every Vintage GP at MidOhio. Glad to hear you made it home. We kicked Steve and Dar out of bed early this morning. They hit the road for Milwaukee about 7:00 am. Nest year, Road America's vintage race! Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ken & Tammy Williams Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 10:24 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Mythbusters in Ohio Hey, Just returned last night from the weekend at Mid Ohio. We had a great time, but more on that later... As we were driving through western Ohio, we had the chance to test a Mythbusters myth. Yep, driving a convertible through a downpour and staying dry. I can attest that at 60-70-ish, low windshield roadster, top down, in rain so hard I could barely see 10 feet in front of the car, we stayed relatively dry. Had I thought of rolling up the side windows....we would have been much dryer. We had just passed the front apparently, as the wind was suddenly blowing more around our backs when we saw the curtain of water in front of us. No place to stop to avoid it, so we pushed forward. I am still a little amazed that it could be raining that hard and how relatively dry we stayed. TaDaaaaa!!!! Ken Williams Janesville, WI ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 28 11:07:48 2010 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:07:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Mythbusters in Ohio In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <772292.76791.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Did you get wet at all from that "backflow" affect where the air swirls around and blows your hair around from behind? Gary McCormick San Jose, CA b70 2000 --- On Mon, 6/28/10, Ken & Tammy Williams wrote: From: Ken & Tammy Williams Subject: [Roadsters] Mythbusters in Ohio To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 7:24 AM Hey, Just returned last night from the weekend at Mid Ohio.B We had a great time, but more on that later... As we were driving through western Ohio, we had the chance to test a Mythbusters myth.B Yep, driving a convertible through a downpour and staying dry.B I can attest that at 60-70-ish, low windshield roadster, top down, in rain so hard I could barely see 10 feet in front of the car, we stayed relatively dry.B Had I thought of rolling up the side windows....we would have been much dryer.B We had just passed the front apparently, as the wind was suddenly blowing more around our backs when we saw the curtain of water in front of us.B No place to stop to avoid it, so we pushed forward.B I am still a little amazed that it could be raining that hard and how relatively dry we stayed.B TaDaaaaa!!!! Ken Williams Janesville, WI ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donationB $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net From d_kroninger at hotmail.com Mon Jun 28 11:38:46 2010 From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:38:46 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Mythbusters in Ohio In-Reply-To: <772292.76791.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: , <772292.76791.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Clearly you don't know Ken, Nothing blows his hair arround. LOL!! > Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:07:48 -0700 > From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; wilhouse at charter.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Mythbusters in Ohio > > Did you get wet at all from that "backflow" affect where the air swirls around > and blows your hair around from behind? > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > b70 2000 > > --- On Mon, 6/28/10, Ken & Tammy Williams wrote: > > From: Ken & Tammy Williams > Subject: [Roadsters] Mythbusters in Ohio > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 7:24 AM > > Hey, > Just returned last night from the weekend at Mid Ohio.B We had a great time, > but more on that later... > As we were driving through western Ohio, we had the chance to test a > Mythbusters myth.B Yep, driving a convertible through a downpour and staying > dry.B I can attest that at 60-70-ish, low windshield roadster, top down, in > rain so hard I could barely see 10 feet in front of the car, we stayed > relatively dry.B Had I thought of rolling up the side windows....we would > have > been much dryer.B We had just passed the front apparently, as the wind was > suddenly blowing more around our backs when we saw the curtain of water in > front of us.B No place to stop to avoid it, so we pushed forward.B I am > still > a little amazed that it could be raining that hard and how relatively dry we > stayed.B TaDaaaaa!!!! > Ken Williams > Janesville, WI > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donationB $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/d_kroninger at hotmail.co m _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 From wilhouse at charter.net Mon Jun 28 11:43:02 2010 From: wilhouse at charter.net (Ken & Tammy Williams) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:43:02 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Mythbusters in Ohio References: <772292.76791.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Did you get wet at all from that "backflow" affect where the air swirls around and blows your hair around from behind? Gary McCormick San Jose, CA b70 2000 HA!!! Obviously, you don't know me. Plenty of air swirling, but no HAIR swirling. ;-) But to answer your question...Yes. My wife's hair was pretty wet, causing a wet shirt etc. Unfortunately for me, not as much of a wet shirt effect as I would hope. But, I digress. My scalp was wet but my main problem was with the left side from not raising my window. I had one 3-4" wet area on my left hip, but otherwise dry. The inside of the windshield was wet from the blowback effect too. Amazing for the amount of water falling that we weren't soaked to the bone. Ken From tputland at charter.net Mon Jun 28 14:37:30 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:37:30 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Need some help please Message-ID: <20100628163730.R1UBN.8221753.root@mp06> I will talk about MidOhio when I get home, for now though, I need some help: We made it to our stopping point in Plymouth, IN with little to no issues. (at one point I thought I was getting some hesitation (missing??) acceleration through 2nd into 3rd, but it may have been the wind pushing me around as it was windy as #$%&@ coming across 30 today. I pulled off the highway and looked at the plugs--their condition below. The rear carb was low on oil so I fixed that. Regardless of the wind, this situation did not continue after we started out again. After dropping Connie at the hotel I went in search of a liquor store. When I was leaving the liquor store, every gear was hesitating, bucking, etc. I got back to the hotel and pulled a couple plugs. Before we left for MidOhio, they were a light brown. Now they are black and smell slightly burnt. We put new carbs on last March and the car has been running great ever since. This is the first time I have had any issues. I seems to be idling a little rough right now as well. This is a de-smogged 70 1600. PLEASE, sound off folks. thanks Tim From tputland at charter.net Mon Jun 28 14:57:32 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:57:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Need some help please In-Reply-To: <20100628163730.R1UBN.8221753.root@mp06> Message-ID: <20100628165732.FN7TT.8222790.root@mp06> Sorry all. I have an EI dizzy and the timing was corrected last March. ---- Tim wrote: ============= I will talk about MidOhio when I get home, for now though, I need some help: We made it to our stopping point in Plymouth, IN with little to no issues. (at one point I thought I was getting some hesitation (missing??) acceleration through 2nd into 3rd, but it may have been the wind pushing me around as it was windy as #$%&@ coming across 30 today. I pulled off the highway and looked at the plugs--their condition below. The rear carb was low on oil so I fixed that. Regardless of the wind, this situation did not continue after we started out again. After dropping Connie at the hotel I went in search of a liquor store. When I was leaving the liquor store, every gear was hesitating, bucking, etc. I got back to the hotel and pulled a couple plugs. Before we left for MidOhio, they were a light brown. Now they are black and smell slightly burnt. We put new carbs on last March and the car has been running great ever since. This is the first time I have had any issues. I seems to be idling a little rough right now as well. This is a de-smogged 70 1600. PLEASE, sound off folks. thanks Tim ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Mon Jun 28 15:37:10 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:37:10 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Mythbusters in Ohio In-Reply-To: <772292.76791.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: , <772292.76791.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On my x-country trip I drove from Kansas City to Louisville in heavy rain with a German Canvas Cover (about 250 miles) - not a single leak - dry as the proverbial Peter (Eliza) > Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:07:48 -0700 > From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; wilhouse at charter.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Mythbusters in Ohio > > Did you get wet at all from that "backflow" affect where the air swirls around > and blows your hair around from behind? > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > b70 2000 > > --- On Mon, 6/28/10, Ken & Tammy Williams wrote: > > From: Ken & Tammy Williams > Subject: [Roadsters] Mythbusters in Ohio > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 7:24 AM > > Hey, > Just returned last night from the weekend at Mid Ohio.B We had a great time, > but more on that later... > As we were driving through western Ohio, we had the chance to test a > Mythbusters myth.B Yep, driving a convertible through a downpour and staying > dry.B I can attest that at 60-70-ish, low windshield roadster, top down, in > rain so hard I could barely see 10 feet in front of the car, we stayed > relatively dry.B Had I thought of rolling up the side windows....we would > have > been much dryer.B We had just passed the front apparently, as the wind was > suddenly blowing more around our backs when we saw the curtain of water in > front of us.B No place to stop to avoid it, so we pushed forward.B I am > still > a little amazed that it could be raining that hard and how relatively dry we > stayed.B TaDaaaaa!!!! > Ken Williams > Janesville, WI > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donationB $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/granvillecomputing at hot mail.com From tputland at charter.net Mon Jun 28 15:37:11 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:37:11 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Need some help please In-Reply-To: <000401cb1708$ea9b88f0$bfd29ad0$@net> Message-ID: <20100628173711.B3V3P.8224817.root@mp06> Regular gas and seemed to be running fine on the open road at speed. Gas is from (possibly) three different stations as I don't trust my gas guage so I don't let it get too low. Plugs were black but not all over. I was able to wipe it off. I looked at three plugs (one is difficult to get to with the EI module on the dizzy) and they were all the same. I have not looked it up yet, what do black plugs mean? Continued thanks Tim ---- Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote: ============= Okay, that eliminates one thing! All four plugs fouled? Black oily wet, or black carbon dry deposits? Regular gas or high test? Any chance that you and Stan stopped at the same gas station and got some bad gas? Paul -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 4:58 PM To: Tim; datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Need some help please Sorry all. I have an EI dizzy and the timing was corrected last March. ---- Tim wrote: ============= I will talk about MidOhio when I get home, for now though, I need some help: We made it to our stopping point in Plymouth, IN with little to no issues. (at one point I thought I was getting some hesitation (missing??) acceleration through 2nd into 3rd, but it may have been the wind pushing me around as it was windy as #$%&@ coming across 30 today. I pulled off the highway and looked at the plugs--their condition below. The rear carb was low on oil so I fixed that. Regardless of the wind, this situation did not continue after we started out again. After dropping Connie at the hotel I went in search of a liquor store. When I was leaving the liquor store, every gear was hesitating, bucking, etc. I got back to the hotel and pulled a couple plugs. Before we left for MidOhio, they were a light brown. Now they are black and smell slightly burnt. We put new carbs on last March and the car has been running great ever since. This is the first time I have had any issues. I seems to be idling a little rough right now as well. This is a de-smogged 70 1600. PLEASE, sound off folks. thanks Tim ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net From tputland at charter.net Mon Jun 28 15:37:22 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:37:22 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Need some help please In-Reply-To: <000401cb1708$ea9b88f0$bfd29ad0$@net> Message-ID: <20100628173722.08NNU.8224829.root@mp06> Regular gas and seemed to be running fine on the open road at speed. Gas is from (possibly) three different stations as I don't trust my gas guage so I don't let it get too low. Plugs were black but not all over. I was able to wipe it off. I looked at three plugs (one is difficult to get to with the EI module on the dizzy) and they were all the same. I have not looked it up yet, what do black plugs mean? Continued thanks Tim ---- Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote: ============= Okay, that eliminates one thing! All four plugs fouled? Black oily wet, or black carbon dry deposits? Regular gas or high test? Any chance that you and Stan stopped at the same gas station and got some bad gas? Paul -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 4:58 PM To: Tim; datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Need some help please Sorry all. I have an EI dizzy and the timing was corrected last March. ---- Tim wrote: ============= I will talk about MidOhio when I get home, for now though, I need some help: We made it to our stopping point in Plymouth, IN with little to no issues. (at one point I thought I was getting some hesitation (missing??) acceleration through 2nd into 3rd, but it may have been the wind pushing me around as it was windy as #$%&@ coming across 30 today. I pulled off the highway and looked at the plugs--their condition below. The rear carb was low on oil so I fixed that. Regardless of the wind, this situation did not continue after we started out again. After dropping Connie at the hotel I went in search of a liquor store. When I was leaving the liquor store, every gear was hesitating, bucking, etc. I got back to the hotel and pulled a couple plugs. Before we left for MidOhio, they were a light brown. Now they are black and smell slightly burnt. We put new carbs on last March and the car has been running great ever since. This is the first time I have had any issues. I seems to be idling a little rough right now as well. This is a de-smogged 70 1600. PLEASE, sound off folks. thanks Tim ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net From tputland at charter.net Mon Jun 28 15:40:48 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:40:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Need some help please In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20100628174048.RW1CN.8225021.root@mp06> I don't need to use the choke to start the car when the weather is warm and haven't used it since probably last April. Rebuilt Z-therapy carbs are newly installed last march. I would hope the floats are the newer plastic and not the issue. Tim ---- Scott Sheeler wrote: ============= Tim: My thoughts... a sticking nozzle (or nozzles) when releasing the choke causing over-rich mixture... float level a little high causing excess fule flow thru nozzle... Scott Sheeler http://thedatsunroadsterbook.com/ > Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:37:30 -0700 > From: tputland at charter.net > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Need some help please > > I will talk about MidOhio when I get home, for now though, I need some help: > > We made it to our stopping point in Plymouth, IN with little to no issues. (at one point I thought I was getting some hesitation (missing??) acceleration through 2nd into 3rd, but it may have been the wind pushing me around as it was windy as > #$%&@ coming across 30 today. I pulled off the highway and looked at the plugs--their condition below. The rear carb was low on oil so I fixed that. Regardless of the wind, this situation did not continue after we started out again. > > After dropping Connie at the hotel I went in search of a liquor store. When I was leaving the liquor store, every gear was hesitating, bucking, etc. I got back to the hotel and pulled a couple plugs. Before we left for MidOhio, they were a light brown. Now they are black and smell slightly burnt. We put new carbs on last March and the car has been running great ever since. This is the first time I have had any issues. I seems to be idling a little rough right now as well. > > This is a de-smogged 70 1600. > > PLEASE, sound off folks. > > thanks > Tim > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/poontang188 at hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 From tom at datsun2000.com Mon Jun 28 18:57:41 2010 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 17:57:41 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Mythbusters in Ohio Message-ID: I hit a bad rainstorm driving North on I5 from Shasta last year in a high windshield roadster. Windows up and nothing at all in the car. The other people on the road probably thought I was crazy. I have found that about 35 will work in the city if you flip the sunvisors up and miss the stop lights..... Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On 6/28/2010 10:43:02 AM, Ken & Tammy Williams (wilhouse at charter.net) wrote: > Did you get wet at all from that "backflow" affect where the air swirls > around and blows your hair around from behind? > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > b From sandhoff at csus.edu Mon Jun 28 20:26:03 2010 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 19:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Room available in Mt. Shasta Message-ID: Life happens, forcing me to cancel this year's trip to Mt. Shasta. I should have a room reserved at the Swiss Holiday Lodge (the host hotel), one bed suitable for one or two people. If anyone wants it, I'll coordinate releasing the room so you can pick it up. Let me know SOON. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From alvingogi at hotmail.com Mon Jun 28 22:48:53 2010 From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 04:48:53 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] ZCarGarage Blog Message-ID: All,Recently I started posting write-ups of everything Datsun/vintage related on ZCG's blog. The write-ups are brief an include all of my pictures from past events. Unlike my Webshots albums there are NO ads to sift though, no flash movies, etc,. Just pictures plain and simple!Check it out, and please don't hesitate to give me feedback as I am new to this.Enjoy! http://www.zcarblog.com/ Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID283 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 From psbiker1 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 29 10:05:40 2010 From: psbiker1 at yahoo.com (S B) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 09:05:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Message-ID: <700262.26656.qm@web111813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> http://gutuquqefanas.chat.ru From tim at jnford.com Tue Jun 29 11:05:16 2010 From: tim at jnford.com (Tim North) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 12:05:16 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] favorite tires Message-ID: <8821A430513C4E688CA8DB5CE0267247@JohnNorth.local> I just got a new set of 15 X 6 Panasport wheels to replace the 14's on my '69 Datsun 2000. What do listers recommend for tires, size and brand, to mount on them? I have heard that Falkens are good. Tim North Emporia, KS From gogineni.alvin at gene.com Tue Jun 29 11:15:08 2010 From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 10:15:08 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] favorite tires In-Reply-To: <8821A430513C4E688CA8DB5CE0267247@JohnNorth.local> References: <8821A430513C4E688CA8DB5CE0267247@JohnNorth.local> Message-ID: <3C56FAB9-E60B-401C-9A0B-460A7FAB4D34@gene.com> 195/50/15 or 195/55/15 these are safe dimensions if you have the clearance 205/50/15 yokohama S-drive is good for price Falken Ziex/Azenis series Bridgestone tires Dunlop Direzza Dz101 or Z1 star spec anything from Tire Rack or Discount Tire On Jun 29, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Tim North wrote: > I just got a new set of 15 X 6 Panasport wheels to replace the 14's > on my '69 > Datsun 2000. What do listers recommend for tires, size and brand, > to mount on > them? I have heard that Falkens are good. > Tim North > Emporia, KS > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gogineni.alvin at gene.com From aultgc at att.net Tue Jun 29 20:05:03 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 21:05:03 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Mythbusters in Ohio References: Message-ID: Ken, BT, DT, GTTS -- Southern California, summer 1972. But, eventually, one has to stop, and then ..... Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken & Tammy Williams" To: Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:24 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Mythbusters in Ohio > Hey, > Just returned last night from the weekend at Mid Ohio. We had a great > time, > but more on that later... > As we were driving through western Ohio, we had the chance to test a > Mythbusters myth. Yep, driving a convertible through a downpour and > staying > dry. I can attest that at 60-70-ish, low windshield roadster, top down, > in > rain so hard I could barely see 10 feet in front of the car, we stayed > relatively dry. Had I thought of rolling up the side windows....we would > have > been much dryer. We had just passed the front apparently, as the wind was > suddenly blowing more around our backs when we saw the curtain of water in > front of us. No place to stop to avoid it, so we pushed forward. I am > still > a little amazed that it could be raining that hard and how relatively dry > we > stayed. TaDaaaaa!!!! > Ken Williams > Janesville, WI > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From tputland at charter.net Tue Jun 29 20:15:46 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 22:15:46 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] You can't buy a timing light in Indiana Message-ID: <20100629221546.U840Y.2919548.root@mp15> For the record: I never was actually broken down. The Roadster was always running, just not 100% well at times on our way to the half way home point. On the run out to MidOhio the Roadster was running great, even at speeds over 80 mph. Somehow, once there, the timing changed to Zero degrees. I didnbt notice any issues until we were on the way home and at the halfway point where we had planned to stop for the night. I posted the issue yesterday evening. (Obviously???) we made it home. I will now have to recheck everything to find out why the timing changed so drastically. Any thoughts on this anyone? (new carbs, plugs and proper timing all done with the past three months.) Would the timing being out so bad cause the plugs to be dry black (not oily black)? Or is this strictly caused by running rich? Anyone? Bueler? On the timing light: I will now have to make sure I make room to pack a timing light when we go on a long run. Is there a company that makes a small form timing light? At the few auto part stores I checked in the Valparaiso and near to that area of backwardsasscountryfuqteethmissingredneckdimwitted state of Indianabsorry to any one on this list from that state--they didnbt have a timing light. At one place, they didnbt even know what I was talking about! Seriously!! I walked in and the kid (go figure) asked me what I needed. I said ba timing lightb. And he said ba what? b. Man, am I getting old! Thankfully, at one place, one of the employees let me borrow his. (Beers on me for that guy! I hope the cash I slipped him covers a dental visit!!!!) Any way, Thanks to the few of you who were able to help! Beers on me Dave if you are even in my area! Paul, I am buying you a timing light for Christmas! ;-P Scott, thanks for the instant replies yesterday evening! That helped calm me down while I was in the middle of no where freaking out over poor performance from the Roadster and also freaking out over not being able to buy good beer in Plymouth, Indiana! (The big grocery store I first went into didnbt even sell cold beer!!!!!!!!!!!!) OK, off my soap box and into bed. MidOhio talk and pictures tomorrow I hope. (we are taking my daughter to the USA track and field championships tomorrow somewhere near Chicago so I do not know if I will have time to download pics tomorrow.) BEERS! Tim Dairyland Datsuns From gboone70 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 29 21:00:34 2010 From: gboone70 at yahoo.com (Gary Boone) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 20:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] You can't buy a timing light in Indiana In-Reply-To: <20100629221546.U840Y.2919548.root@mp15> References: <20100629221546.U840Y.2919548.root@mp15> Message-ID: <708046.29203.qm@web36302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> After you get the timing set again, check to make sure both screws (there's one underneath the fixing plate) are tight. Also check for any loose parts inside the distributor beforehand. Ignition timing does have some effect on mixture and spark plug color. But more advance causes a less complete burn and a richer mixture, which is not what you're getting. I've seen the mixture change with timing changes on the dyno. Sounds like your carbs are rich. ----- Original Message ---- From: Tim To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Sent: Tue, June 29, 2010 8:15:46 PM Subject: [Roadsters] You can't buy a timing light in Indiana For the record: I never was actually broken down. The Roadster was always running, just not 100% well at times on our way to the half way home point. On the run out to MidOhio the Roadster was running great, even at speeds over 80 mph. Somehow, once there, the timing changed to Zero degrees. I didnbt notice any issues until we were on the way home and at the halfway point where we had planned to stop for the night. I posted the issue yesterday evening. (Obviously???) we made it home. I will now have to recheck everything to find out why the timing changed so drastically. Any thoughts on this anyone? (new carbs, plugs and proper timing all done with the past three months.) Would the timing being out so bad cause the plugs to be dry black (not oily black)? Or is this strictly caused by running rich? Anyone? Bueler? On the timing light: I will now have to make sure I make room to pack a timing light when we go on a long run. Is there a company that makes a small form timing light? At the few auto part stores I checked in the Valparaiso and near to that area of backwardsasscountryfuqteethmissingredneckdimwitted state of Indianabsorry to any one on this list from that state--they didnbt have a timing light. At one place, they didnbt even know what I was talking about! Seriously!! I walked in and the kid (go figure) asked me what I needed. I said ba timing lightb. And he said ba what? b. Man, am I getting old! Thankfully, at one place, one of the employees let me borrow his. (Beers on me for that guy! I hope the cash I slipped him covers a dental visit!!!!) Any way, Thanks to the few of you who were able to help! Beers on me Dave if you are even in my area! Paul, I am buying you a timing light for Christmas! ;-P Scott, thanks for the instant replies yesterday evening! That helped calm me down while I was in the middle of no where freaking out over poor performance from the Roadster and also freaking out over not being able to buy good beer in Plymouth, Indiana! (The big grocery store I first went into didnbt even sell cold beer!!!!!!!!!!!!) OK, off my soap box and into bed. MidOhio talk and pictures tomorrow I hope. (we are taking my daughter to the USA track and field championships tomorrow somewhere near Chicago so I do not know if I will have time to download pics tomorrow.) BEERS! Tim Dairyland Datsuns From tasker1968 at comcast.net Wed Jun 30 10:17:39 2010 From: tasker1968 at comcast.net (Owen) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:17:39 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Concours D' Elegance Message-ID: If anyone is interested Sunday, July 18th in Forest Grove, OR is the 38th annual Concours D' Elegance. Here's a link for more info. WWW.forestgroveconcours.org This year the theme is Romance of the Convertible. I've never seen any Japanese cars in the show, someone should enter there datsun roadster. The show is on the Campus of Pacific University, there's a lot of big trees for shade if the weathers hot. Owen. From AlanW at dprinc.com Wed Jun 30 15:20:19 2010 From: AlanW at dprinc.com (Alan Watt) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:20:19 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Tow Strap Advice Message-ID: <4EDB5C49AFCBCE43A501968FB08956B6271B772CE7@EXCHANGE07.dprinc.com> Hi, I need to tow my roadster about a mile down the road to a mechanic for some engine work. What is the best place to attach the tow strap on the roadster? Other advice regarding the tow (other than legal) is also welcome. Cheers, Alan 67.5 SPL311 From escanlon at wa-net.com Wed Jun 30 17:16:18 2010 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:16:18 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Tow Strap Advice References: <4EDB5C49AFCBCE43A501968FB08956B6271B772CE7@EXCHANGE07.dprinc.com> Message-ID: Make sure whomever you have in the car pulling or being pulled and you have established an EASY form of communicating. This is after having checked the brakes on the Roadster. Cell phones use may be a good thing to use and even the "dumb" little things may be important. Don't forget, it's easy to presume that the person who is pulling you in the roadster, knows to tell you that they've let off the gas and are now coasting... until you find yourself slamming on the brakes and they accelerate in response to the tug they feel in back.... it quickly becomes a yo-yo. Done that, been there, don't want to do it again. Thankfully, in my case it was in the yard and all it cost me was a pair of ruts in the lawn. 2" E ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 2:20 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Tow Strap Advice > Hi, > > I need to tow my roadster about a mile down the road to a mechanic for > some > engine work. What is the best place to attach the tow strap on the > roadster? > Other advice regarding the tow (other than legal) is also welcome. > > Cheers, > Alan > > 67.5 SPL311 From ljordan704 at netscape.net Wed Jun 30 17:56:43 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 19:56:43 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Tow Strap Advice In-Reply-To: References: <4EDB5C49AFCBCE43A501968FB08956B6271B772CE7@EXCHANGE07.dprinc.com> Message-ID: <8CCE6C706BD9EDA-210C-65AF@webmail-m010.sysops.aol.com> I remember years ago when I was towed several times with a rope in a couple of cars. What a nerve-wracking event that was. Thank God for AAA. Linda -----Original Message----- From: E Scanlon To: Alan Watt ; Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Jun 30, 2010 4:16 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Tow Strap Advice Make sure whomever you have in the car pulling or being pulled and you have established an EASY form of communicating. This is after having checked the brakes on the Roadster. Cell phones use may be a good thing to use and even the "dumb" little things may be important. Don't forget, it's easy to presume that the person who is pulling you in the roadster, knows to tell you that they've let off the gas and are now coasting... until you find yourself slamming on the brakes and they accelerate in response to the tug they feel in back.... it quickly becomes a yo-yo. Done that, been there, don't want to do it again. Thankfully, in my case it was in the yard and all it cost me was a pair of ruts in the lawn. 2" E ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 2:20 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Tow Strap Advice > Hi, > > I need to tow my roadster about a mile down the road to a mechanic for > some > engine work. What is the best place to attach the tow strap on the > roadster? > Other advice regarding the tow (other than legal) is also welcome. > > Cheers, > Alan > > 67.5 SPL311 ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.net From twobeaners at earthlink.net Wed Jun 30 18:43:47 2010 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 19:43:47 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Tow Strap Advice References: <4EDB5C49AFCBCE43A501968FB08956B6271B772CE7@EXCHANGE07.dprinc.com> <8CCE6C706BD9EDA-210C-65AF@webmail-m010.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Ha! Ha! .......Nerve racking with a rope? ! You should try it with a chain! BTDT,.....No, I don't recommend it! I would like to hear recommendations or thoughts on where to hook a strap, rope, or tow cable hook. There doesn't seem to be a good place, I wouldn't want to use any part of the suspension or sway bar towers. I often wondered if there was some kind of kit that could be drilled and mounted with some grade 8 bolts, or whatever. I had considered getting some horseshoe bent re-bar and weld it to underneath the cross-member. Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Tow Strap Advice > I remember years ago when I was towed several times with a rope in a > couple > of cars. What a nerve-wracking event that was. Thank God for AAA. > Linda > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: E Scanlon > To: Alan Watt ; Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Wed, Jun 30, 2010 4:16 pm > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Tow Strap Advice > > > Make sure whomever you have in the car pulling or being pulled and you > have > established an EASY form of communicating. This is after having checked > the > brakes on the Roadster. Cell phones use may be a good thing to use and > even > the "dumb" little things may be important. > > Don't forget, it's easy to presume that the person who is pulling you in > the > roadster, knows to tell you that they've let off the gas and are now > coasting... until you find yourself slamming on the brakes and they > accelerate > in response to the tug they feel in back.... it quickly becomes a yo-yo. > Done that, been there, don't want to do it again. Thankfully, in my case > it > was in the yard and all it cost me was a pair of ruts in the lawn. > > 2" > E > > ----- Original Message ----- > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 2:20 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Tow Strap Advice > >> Hi, >> >> I need to tow my roadster about a mile down the road to a mechanic for > > some >> engine work. What is the best place to attach the tow strap on the > > roadster? >> Other advice regarding the tow (other than legal) is also welcome. >> >> Cheers, >> Alan >> >> 67.5 SPL311 ________________________________________ From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net Wed Jun 30 19:30:15 2010 From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 19:30:15 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [Roadsters] Tow Strap Advice Message-ID: <13146852.1277947815711.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> When transporting my roadster by trailer, I run the chain around the front crossmember. Works well when the chain and chain binder is then secured to the trailer. I do not know if towing would cause the chain to rub the front valence, it might. Another probably better option is a nylon tow strap also secured around the front cross member. Good luck, Dewey -----Original Message----- >From: Alan Watt >Sent: Jun 30, 2010 3:20 PM >To: "Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" >Subject: [Roadsters] Tow Strap Advice > >Hi, > >I need to tow my roadster about a mile down the road to a mechanic for some >engine work. What is the best place to attach the tow strap on the roadster? >Other advice regarding the tow (other than legal) is also welcome. > >Cheers, >Alan > >67.5 SPL311 >________________________________________ >Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $16.00 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/hahlbohmd at earthlink.net