From mcinns at att.net Sun Aug 1 15:00:28 2010 From: mcinns at att.net (Mark McInnis) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 14:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] KA24DE conversion Message-ID: <892094.30604.qm@web180607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I bought my 1969 2000 in 1989 and have not had time to work on it until now. I want to put in this engine and transmission that I bought in 2003. How do I find the archived information about this swap? Mark McInnis Tucson, AZ From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sun Aug 1 18:58:52 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 17:58:52 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] KA24DE conversion In-Reply-To: <892094.30604.qm@web180607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <892094.30604.qm@web180607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002701cb31dd$e0809e10$a181da30$@net> While several people have installed KA24's into their roadsters, no one has documented it. That said, check the Engine Swap section in the 311s.org forums. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark McInnis Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 2:00 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] KA24DE conversion I bought my 1969 2000 in 1989 and have not had time to work on it until now. I want to put in this engine and transmission that I bought in 2003. How do I find the archived information about this swap? Mark McInnis Tucson, AZ ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From SConway at fielders.com.au Sun Aug 1 19:04:49 2010 From: SConway at fielders.com.au (Sam Conway) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 10:34:49 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] KA24DE conversion In-Reply-To: <002701cb31dd$e0809e10$a181da30$@net> References: <892094.30604.qm@web180607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <002701cb31dd$e0809e10$a181da30$@net> Message-ID: <09E4074C0F830C458934327282278BF00530DE91@EDWEXVS01.hills.hillsad.com> Hey, I would contact Herb Petty in Modesto he has done that conversion Regards Samuel Conway National Quality and Process Engineer -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Monday, 2 August 2010 10:29 AM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] KA24DE conversion While several people have installed KA24's into their roadsters, no one has documented it. That said, check the Engine Swap section in the 311s.org forums. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark McInnis Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 2:00 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] KA24DE conversion I bought my 1969 2000 in 1989 and have not had time to work on it until now. I want to put in this engine and transmission that I bought in 2003. How do I find the archived information about this swap? Mark McInnis Tucson, AZ ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcas t.ne t ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/sconway at fielders. com.au From roadster at astound.net Sun Aug 1 20:03:54 2010 From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 19:03:54 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] KA24DE conversion In-Reply-To: <892094.30604.qm@web180607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <892094.30604.qm@web180607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ken Pletcher is on the 311s.org site, maybe he can offer suggestions. Check out his supercharged KA24DE from last week's run. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZVoFN975HI Fred - So.SF BADROC On Aug 1, 2010, at 2:00 PM, Mark McInnis wrote: > I bought my 1969 2000 in 1989 and have not had time to work on it until now. I > want to put in this engine and transmission that I bought in > 2003. How do I find the archived information about this swap? > > Mark McInnis > Tucson, AZ > ________________________________________ From escarcega at cox.net Sun Aug 1 20:54:59 2010 From: escarcega at cox.net (Marty Escarcega) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 19:54:59 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Intro Message-ID: <004501cb31ee$18eca310$4ac5e930$@net> Hi everyone. Just a brief intro. My daughter and I are now the owner's of a 1967 Datsun 1600 in what I would call fair condition. Engine runs, has some valve train noise, no smoke, transmission shifts smoothly. My daughter actually saw it at a recycle yard in Northern Arizona (Overgaard) and we decided to stop in. We thought what a neat little car. We talked about it and she (about to turn 13 BTW) committed to helping getting the car roadworthy. I put some pictures up on our picasa web album. http://picasaweb.google.com/marty.escarcega/1967Datsun1600SP311Roadster# Hopefully it will be a nice father daughter project. All the rubber needs replacing, the only major body work seems to be in the tail light areas of the car. We have the tail light chrome rings, the lenses and sockets need replacing. I see on eBay they are pretty expensive to replace. We are going to work on mechanicals, check brakes, cooling system, valve train etc. to try and make it a reliable road worthy car. Any advice appreciated. We'd like to see a similar Roadster in person especially if you have restored the car. Ron Hamilton who doesn't live far from me suggested we join this list, we found 311s.org as well. Ron should be a good resource as tells me he has owned quite a few of these neat little cars. I live in East Mesa, AZ. The car is currently up North in Overgaard AZ. I will be trailering it down soon. Thanks Marty Escarcega From eddietude at socal.rr.com Sun Aug 1 21:24:35 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2010 20:24:35 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Intro In-Reply-To: <004501cb31ee$18eca310$4ac5e930$@net> References: <004501cb31ee$18eca310$4ac5e930$@net> Message-ID: <4C563A73.8050903@socal.rr.com> Glad you rescued it. My suggestion, do a frame off. Strip that thing completely, then sandblast the entire thing, powdercoat the frame, suspension, etc. Makes a MUCH nicer vehicle to work on. Weatherstripping: Only one way to go. Spend the $1000 and buy the COMPLETE kit from Dean and Datsun Parts. It's cheaper than trying to nickel and dime it together. There are a TON of pieces in that kit, and odds are, you'll use EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. Check the brakes VERY carefully. If one line goes out, the ENTIRE system fails... no brakes. thats the wonder of a single resivoir system... Marty Escarcega wrote: > Hi everyone. Just a brief intro. My daughter and I are now the owner's of a > 1967 Datsun 1600 in what I would call fair condition. Engine runs, has some > valve train noise, no smoke, transmission shifts smoothly. My daughter > actually saw it at a recycle yard in Northern Arizona (Overgaard) and we > decided to stop in. We thought what a neat little car. We talked about it > and she (about to turn 13 BTW) committed to helping getting the car > roadworthy. > > I put some pictures up on our picasa web album. > http://picasaweb.google.com/marty.escarcega/1967Datsun1600SP311Roadster# > > Hopefully it will be a nice father daughter project. All the rubber needs > replacing, the only major body work seems to be in the tail light areas of > the car. We have the tail light chrome rings, the lenses and sockets need > replacing. I see on eBay they are pretty expensive to replace. > > > > We are going to work on mechanicals, check brakes, cooling system, valve > train etc. to try and make it a reliable road worthy car. Any advice > appreciated. We'd like to see a similar Roadster in person especially if you > have restored the car. Ron Hamilton who doesn't live far from me suggested > we join this list, we found 311s.org as well. Ron should be a good resource > as tells me he has owned quite a few of these neat little cars. > > > > I live in East Mesa, AZ. The car is currently up North in Overgaard AZ. I > will be trailering it down soon. > > > > Thanks > > Marty Escarcega > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From kemp_l at hotmail.com Sun Aug 1 22:16:22 2010 From: kemp_l at hotmail.com (Kemp LaMunyon Sr.) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 21:16:22 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Intro for me too. In-Reply-To: <004501cb31ee$18eca310$4ac5e930$@net> References: <004501cb31ee$18eca310$4ac5e930$@net> Message-ID: Hi all, I am new to the Roadster family but wanted to do an intro. I ran accross this little 1969 1600 a few days ago and had to get it. In that time I have ran into many people that I hope to call friend when they get to know me better. I joined a local car club here in walla walla wa. but seems I am the only one with a little beauty like this. It is defenetly a project car. I would like to know if there are others like me in S.E Washington area that would like to shoot the bull sometime. I fell in love with this little car when I hit second gear. Undeniable addicted by fith gear..what a dream.. Thanks From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sun Aug 1 22:55:41 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 00:55:41 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Intro In-Reply-To: <004501cb31ee$18eca310$4ac5e930$@net> References: <004501cb31ee$18eca310$4ac5e930$@net> Message-ID: <8CD0016179EB747-10D0-2BCC6@webmail-m035.sysops.aol.com> Hello, My advice is the complete opposite of Eddie. Just get it road worthy first, then you can decide if you are happy with a little beater sports car or you want it all shiny and new. Otherwise it could be 5 years from now that you get it back together again and by that time your daughter will have discovered boys and no longer be interested! Seriously though my philosophy is fix, drive, fix, drive. Not the most efficent way to do it but you get the rewards of driving as opposed to "someday..." Unless all you really care about is fixing and don't really care about driving all that much. Yes, that does happen. And your daughter is lucky to have a Dad to teach her mechanical stuff. My Dad did some of that too. Have fun. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Marty Escarcega To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, Aug 1, 2010 7:54 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Intro Hi everyone. Just a brief intro. My daughter and I are now the owner's of a 1967 Datsun 1600 in what I would call fair condition. Engine runs, has some valve train noise, no smoke, transmission shifts smoothly. My daughter actually saw it at a recycle yard in Northern Arizona (Overgaard) and we decided to stop in. We thought what a neat little car. We talked about it and she (about to turn 13 BTW) committed to helping getting the car roadworthy. I put some pictures up on our picasa web album. http://picasaweb.google.com/marty.escarcega/1967Datsun1600SP311Roadster# Hopefully it will be a nice father daughter project. All the rubber needs replacing, the only major body work seems to be in the tail light areas of the car. We have the tail light chrome rings, the lenses and sockets need replacing. I see on eBay they are pretty expensive to replace. We are going to work on mechanicals, check brakes, cooling system, valve train etc. to try and make it a reliable road worthy car. Any advice appreciated. We'd like to see a similar Roadster in person especially if you have restored the car. Ron Hamilton who doesn't live far from me suggested we join this list, we found 311s.org as well. Ron should be a good resource as tells me he has owned quite a few of these neat little cars. I live in East Mesa, AZ. The car is currently up North in Overgaard AZ. I will be trailering it down soon. Thanks Marty Escarcega ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From 9laser3 at bright.net Mon Aug 2 04:47:30 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 06:47:30 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] KA24DE conversion In-Reply-To: <002701cb31dd$e0809e10$a181da30$@net> References: <892094.30604.qm@web180607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <002701cb31dd$e0809e10$a181da30$@net> Message-ID: <000001cb3230$1ca58660$55f09320$@net> And I am so sorry I didn't document my swap! I did some of the work, but most was done at a speed shop, now long out of business. They were to provide photos of ever step, especially any mods or fabrication needed, but didn't. They did nice work, but missed some finishing touches and forgot all about "customer satisfaction". Did I mention they are out of business now? But the swap is great. I did the single cam KA24E from a '89 240SX, and it looks like it was made for the car. Better yet, it could go back to a R16 very easily. It fit with no modifications to the firewall or transmission tunnel. Still uses the stock throttle arrangement. Had to cut a notch in the inner fender well for the O2 sensor, but this could be avoided by moving the sensor further down the manifold. The radiator bulkhead was removed and a custom built radiator was installed a bit forward of stock. A few new holes were drilled for the transmission cross member. The ECU is mounted under the dash where the radio speaker used to live. And the battery is now located in the trunk. The 5 speed comes up through the stock 1600 hole in the tunnel, and a short shift kit was used. End result is a great ride. Plenty of low end torque to jump off the line. I drove it for awhile with the stock 3.90 1600 differential and it was fine, but I ended up swapping to the 2000's 3.70 to keep the revs down a bit on the freeway (and because it was free!). This spring I drove the car from central Ohio down to Road Atlanta for the Mitty. Most of the drive averaged 75 mph and my Garmin said I hit 88.9 mph on the way down. Had to be when I passed a string of 510s on 85 just north of the track! Averaged over 26 mpg for the whole trip. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 8:59 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] KA24DE conversion While several people have installed KA24's into their roadsters, no one has documented it. That said, check the Engine Swap section in the 311s.org forums. Pete From RWM at RWMann.com Mon Aug 2 05:28:46 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 07:28:46 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Intro In-Reply-To: <8CD0016179EB747-10D0-2BCC6@webmail-m035.sysops.aol.com> References: <004501cb31ee$18eca310$4ac5e930$@net> <8CD0016179EB747-10D0-2BCC6@webmail-m035.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4C56ABEE.9060608@RWMann.com> Or fix, drive, improve, drive, improve, etc. You get the idea, Marty. And Linda's so right about the influence of great Dads. - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: > Hello, > My advice is the complete opposite of Eddie. Just get it road worthy first, > then you can decide if you are happy with a little beater sports car or you > want it all shiny and new. Otherwise it could be 5 years from now that you get > it back together again and by that time your daughter will have discovered > boys and no longer be interested! > Seriously though my philosophy is fix, drive, fix, drive. Not the most > efficent way to do it but you get the rewards of driving as opposed to > "someday..." Unless all you really care about is fixing and don't really care > about driving all that much. Yes, that does happen. > And your daughter is lucky to have a Dad to teach her mechanical stuff. My Dad > did some of that too. > Have fun. > Linda > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marty Escarcega > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Sun, Aug 1, 2010 7:54 pm > Subject: [Roadsters] Intro > > > Hi everyone. Just a brief intro. My daughter and I are now the owner's of a > 1967 Datsun 1600 in what I would call fair condition. Engine runs, has some > valve train noise, no smoke, transmission shifts smoothly. My daughter > actually saw it at a recycle yard in Northern Arizona (Overgaard) and we > decided to stop in. We thought what a neat little car. We talked about it > and she (about to turn 13 BTW) committed to helping getting the car > roadworthy. > > I put some pictures up on our picasa web album. > http://picasaweb.google.com/marty.escarcega/1967Datsun1600SP311Roadster# > > Hopefully it will be a nice father daughter project. All the rubber needs > replacing, the only major body work seems to be in the tail light areas of > the car. We have the tail light chrome rings, the lenses and sockets need > replacing. I see on eBay they are pretty expensive to replace. > > > > We are going to work on mechanicals, check brakes, cooling system, valve > train etc. to try and make it a reliable road worthy car. Any advice > appreciated. We'd like to see a similar Roadster in person especially if you > have restored the car. Ron Hamilton who doesn't live far from me suggested > we join this list, we found 311s.org as well. Ron should be a good resource > as tells me he has owned quite a few of these neat little cars. > > > > I live in East Mesa, AZ. The car is currently up North in Overgaard AZ. I > will be trailering it down soon. > > > > Thanks > > Marty Escarcega From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com Mon Aug 2 05:30:57 2010 From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 04:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Intro In-Reply-To: <8CD0016179EB747-10D0-2BCC6@webmail-m035.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <981497.88042.qm@web63702.mail.re1.yahoo.com> I totally agree with Linda. There will be plenty of time for a frame-off restoration once your daughter is married and has kids. Enjoy the car and make it as safe (first) and as nice (later) as time and pocketbook dictates. Nothing like driving your result to make you want to start the next phase of the project. Mike Harper, '66 1600 (been working on and driving for 33 years) From ncoonen at fastbears.com Mon Aug 2 07:27:33 2010 From: ncoonen at fastbears.com (Ned Coonen) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 08:27:33 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank repair? References: Message-ID: Is there any hope for a gas tank with a loose baffle sliding around inside? The tank from my '69 2000 is otherwise sound and rust-free inside (and out). I took it down to clean it out and replace the straps and discovered that it has a welded patch near one corner that appears well done and without issue. However, inside the tank I found that someone had carefully put a terry hand towel on the bottom in an attempt to stop the loose baffle from rattling. I've fished out the towel but still have the errant baffle. Is this tank savable? I think I could clean it out and re-install it but the clatter from the loose baffle would be very annoying. Ideas? Affordable tank for sale? Thanks, Ned Coonen '69 SRL-311 making a slow comeback From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Aug 2 09:07:55 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 08:07:55 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Intro In-Reply-To: <004501cb31ee$18eca310$4ac5e930$@net> References: <004501cb31ee$18eca310$4ac5e930$@net> Message-ID: <002a01cb3254$7cc7ed70$7657c850$@net> Welcome and congrats on your purchase. I'll go with the majority, i.e. get it drivable before you decide to spend tons of time and money on a frame-off. As for the rubber/weatherstripping bits, it -IS- cheaper in the long run -IF- you can afford a complete weatherstripping kit, but don't let that stop you if you can't. I'm in the same boat, and have been buying the one or more pieces when I have the money. I'm thinking less of an issue for you in Arizona than me in the cool, wet Pacific NW. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Marty Escarcega Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 7:55 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Intro Hi everyone. Just a brief intro. My daughter and I are now the owner's of a 1967 Datsun 1600 in what I would call fair condition. Engine runs, has some valve train noise, no smoke, transmission shifts smoothly. My daughter actually saw it at a recycle yard in Northern Arizona (Overgaard) and we decided to stop in. We thought what a neat little car. We talked about it and she (about to turn 13 BTW) committed to helping getting the car roadworthy. I put some pictures up on our picasa web album. http://picasaweb.google.com/marty.escarcega/1967Datsun1600SP311Roadster# Hopefully it will be a nice father daughter project. All the rubber needs replacing, the only major body work seems to be in the tail light areas of the car. We have the tail light chrome rings, the lenses and sockets need replacing. I see on eBay they are pretty expensive to replace. We are going to work on mechanicals, check brakes, cooling system, valve train etc. to try and make it a reliable road worthy car. Any advice appreciated. We'd like to see a similar Roadster in person especially if you have restored the car. Ron Hamilton who doesn't live far from me suggested we join this list, we found 311s.org as well. Ron should be a good resource as tells me he has owned quite a few of these neat little cars. I live in East Mesa, AZ. The car is currently up North in Overgaard AZ. I will be trailering it down soon. Thanks Marty Escarcega ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From gmagana at yahoo.com Mon Aug 2 09:22:11 2010 From: gmagana at yahoo.com (Gerardo Magana) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 08:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] KA24DE conversion In-Reply-To: <000001cb3230$1ca58660$55f09320$@net> References: <892094.30604.qm@web180607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <002701cb31dd$e0809e10$a181da30$@net> <000001cb3230$1ca58660$55f09320$@net> Message-ID: <610054.89516.qm@web80702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have done 3 swaps already with a kit we developed. It is available now, I gues I need to put it up on the website along with pictures. It requires only 1 small notch for installation so it is one that can be done easily without all the cutting that I have seen on other KA24DE conversions. Gerardo Magana 209-499-9193 www.fairladyparts.com And I am so sorry I didn't document my swap! I did some of the work, but most was done at a speed shop, now long out of business. They were to provide photos of ever step, especially any mods or fabrication needed, but didn't. They did nice work, but missed some finishing touches and forgot all about "customer satisfaction". Did I mention they are out of business now? But the swap is great. I did the single cam KA24E from a '89 240SX, and it looks like it was made for the car. Better yet, it could go back to a R16 very easily. It fit with no modifications to the firewall or transmission tunnel. Still uses the stock throttle arrangement. Had to cut a notch in the inner fender well for the O2 sensor, but this could be avoided by moving the sensor further down the manifold. The radiator bulkhead was removed and a custom built radiator was installed a bit forward of stock. A few new holes were drilled for the transmission cross member. The ECU is mounted under the dash where the radio speaker used to live. And the battery is now located in the trunk. The 5 speed comes up through the stock 1600 hole in the tunnel, and a short shift kit was used. End result is a great ride. Plenty of low end torque to jump off the line. I drove it for awhile with the stock 3.90 1600 differential and it was fine, but I ended up swapping to the 2000's 3.70 to keep the revs down a bit on the freeway (and because it was free!). This spring I drove the car from central Ohio down to Road Atlanta for the Mitty. Most of the drive averaged 75 mph and my Garmin said I hit 88.9 mph on the way down. Had to be when I passed a string of 510s on 85 just north of the track! Averaged over 26 mpg for the whole trip. Paul Ohio While several people have installed KA24's into their roadsters, no one has documented it. That said, check the Engine Swap section in the 311s.org forums. Pete From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net Mon Aug 2 10:10:47 2010 From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 10:10:47 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [Roadsters] Intro for me too. Message-ID: <17356128.1280765448163.JavaMail.root@elwamui-little.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi Kemp, there is a large following of roadster owners and fans in Spokane, WA. I live in Helena and recently learned this at the Spokane Gran Prix races. I was visiting in the pits, shooting the breeze at the tech station with 4 other guys, all 5 of us roadster owners!!! I could not believe it!!! Paul Jeremko of Jeremko Nissan in Spokane has sold, promoted, and raced Datsun/Nissans for 40+ years. He has 2 beautifully restored roadsters on display in his showrooms. The Northwest Nissan/Datsun meet is in Portland in June each year. Check that out, lots of opportunity to get excited about owning our special Datsun Roadsters. There is also a car club in Eastern Oregon, perhaps LeGrande or Pendleton, called Eastern Oregon Datsun owners. Might be worth checking that out too. Have fun and good luck, Dewey -----Original Message----- >From: "Kemp LaMunyon Sr." >Sent: Aug 1, 2010 10:16 PM >To: datsun roadsters List >Subject: [Roadsters] Intro for me too. > >Hi all, > I am new to the Roadster family but wanted to do an intro. I ran accross >this little 1969 1600 a few days ago and had to get it. In that time I have >ran into many people that I hope to call friend when they get to know me >better. I joined a local car club here in walla walla wa. but seems I am the >only one with a little beauty like this. It is defenetly a project car. I >would like to know if there are others like me in S.E Washington area that >would like to shoot the bull sometime. I fell in love with this little car >when I hit second gear. Undeniable addicted by fith gear..what a dream.. > > > >Thanks >________________________________________ >Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $16.00 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/hahlbohmd at earthlink.net From eddietude at socal.rr.com Mon Aug 2 10:21:00 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 09:21:00 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] KA24DE conversion In-Reply-To: <610054.89516.qm@web80702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <892094.30604.qm@web180607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <002701cb31dd$e0809e10$a181da30$@net> <000001cb3230$1ca58660$55f09320$@net> <610054.89516.qm@web80702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C56F06C.8040304@socal.rr.com> Well please post pictures and info when you have it! Gerardo Magana wrote: > I have done 3 swaps already with a kit we developed. It is available now, I > gues I need to put it up on the website along with pictures. It requires only 1 > small notch for installation so it is one that can be done easily without all > the cutting that I have seen on other KA24DE conversions. > > Gerardo Magana > 209-499-9193 > www.fairladyparts.com > > > > > And I am so sorry I didn't document my swap! I did some of the work, but > most was done at a speed shop, now long out of business. They were to > provide photos of ever step, especially any mods or fabrication needed, but > didn't. They did nice work, but missed some finishing touches and forgot > all about "customer satisfaction". Did I mention they are out of business > now? > > But the swap is great. I did the single cam KA24E from a '89 240SX, and > it looks like it was made for the car. Better yet, it could go back to a > R16 very easily. It fit with no modifications to the firewall or > transmission tunnel. Still uses the stock throttle arrangement. Had to cut > a notch in the inner fender well for the O2 sensor, but this could be > avoided by moving the sensor further down the manifold. The radiator > bulkhead was removed and a custom built radiator was installed a bit forward > of stock. A few new holes were drilled for the transmission cross member. > The ECU is mounted under the dash where the radio speaker used to live. And > the battery is now located in the trunk. The 5 speed comes up through the > stock 1600 hole in the tunnel, and a short shift kit was used. > > End result is a great ride. Plenty of low end torque to jump off the > line. I drove it for awhile with the stock 3.90 1600 differential and it > was fine, but I ended up swapping to the 2000's 3.70 to keep the revs down a > bit on the freeway (and because it was free!). This spring I drove the car > from central Ohio down to Road Atlanta for the Mitty. Most of the drive > averaged 75 mph and my Garmin said I hit 88.9 mph on the way down. Had to > be when I passed a string of 510s on 85 just north of the track! Averaged > over 26 mpg for the whole trip. > > Paul > Ohio > > > > While several people have installed KA24's into their roadsters, no one has > documented it. That said, check the Engine Swap section in the 311s.org > forums. > > Pete > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From ljordan704 at netscape.net Mon Aug 2 10:39:19 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 12:39:19 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank repair? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CD0078639C89D2-7B4-901F@webmail-m081.sysops.aol.com> You could try gastankrenu.com. They repair tanks. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Ned Coonen To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, Aug 2, 2010 6:27 am Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank repair? Is there any hope for a gas tank with a loose baffle sliding around inside? The tank from my '69 2000 is otherwise sound and rust-free inside (and out). I took it down to clean it out and replace the straps and discovered that it has a welded patch near one corner that appears well done and without issue. However, inside the tank I found that someone had carefully put a terry hand towel on the bottom in an attempt to stop the loose baffle from rattling. I've fished out the towel but still have the errant baffle. Is this tank savable? I think I could clean it out and re-install it but the clatter from the loose baffle would be very annoying. Ideas? Affordable tank for sale? Thanks, Ned Coonen '69 SRL-311 making a slow comeback ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.net From gogineni.alvin at gene.com Mon Aug 2 11:39:38 2010 From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 10:39:38 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Thunderhill 9/8/10 Message-ID: <97F14F32-BD12-4EBF-98CC-D82E9F4E98F6@gene.com> HookedOnDriving is offering the Z community a great deal for running Thunderhill on September, 8 2010. TONS of track time with a max of 3 run groups....that's 6 sessions per group....if we could get together 15+ Z's, we could do a private group for $150 per! This is not something that they can do on a regular, pre-scheduled basis...and this is not being advertising to the public. If you are interested please send a brief "I'm in" or "I can't" message to David Ray at dray at hookedondriving.com www.hookedondriving.com office: 925-552-8112 mobile: 925-683-1991 Let's get some Nissans out there on the track! From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Mon Aug 2 12:27:45 2010 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 13:27:45 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] gas tank loose piece, kooky solutions? Message-ID: This is a perplexing one, really has me baffled (sorry, I couldn't resist) cause the tank is working fine except for the rattling. I know of no commercially OTS available adhesive that will hold up to modern, solvent loaded road fuels. (and believe in it enough that I'd risk it coming loose and being fed into my carbs) 2 proposed approaches, feel free to tell me why they are silly: 1. Remove the gauge sender plate, try to twist the pieces up small enough to remove it thru the hole. Does it really do that much good? (it may be that all the pressure of all the fluid sloshing against the outlet could dislodge it, or conversely a long sweeper in the wrong direction could leave you dry) 2. In machinists catalogs they have real strong magnets. Move the baffle to what you think is the correct location then put one of these on the outside of the tank. No more rattles, plus you'll pick up all the stray nails in the parking lot at Home Depot! (note: I've seen a few of the cylindrical magnets they shove down cows throats for this purpose, and it is pretty surprising all the things they pick up, and lug around for life) Fergus O From escarcega at cox.net Mon Aug 2 13:21:01 2010 From: escarcega at cox.net (Marty Escarcega) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 12:21:01 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Intro '67 1600 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20100802152101.60R2T.274532.imail@fed1rmwml37> Thanks for the warm welcome everyone! Yes, the plan of attack is to do the mechanicals first, then body work, then ALL the $1,000??? worth of rubber and gaskets...then the details. I think to keep her attention she has to see it run and drive and we just make it a little better each time. Money is tight, so I'll be asking lots of questions and looking for good resources for used parts. We'll have a few pieces for trading, the car came with 2 hard tops one in the pics is for the 68 and newer and an older top we'll likely not use and a pair of extra doors. Marty Mesa, AZ From escarcega at cox.net Mon Aug 2 13:33:04 2010 From: escarcega at cox.net (Marty Escarcega) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 12:33:04 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Intro In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20100802153304.OO11B.274722.imail@fed1rmwml37> Keith, thanks for the info. Exactly where we were headed. I can do some paint and bodywork and likely what I will do after the mechanicals are fixed. Give a quick sand with a DA and shoot at least a light coat of red oxide primer to protect it and then work on one panel at a time. I had considered taking all the removable panels off and taking them to a fellow I know that can media blast them (he has worked on collectable vehicles and does not use sand or slag) That would save us a lot of time on the sanding, most everything has to come apart anyway for new ($1,000 ouch) rubber! :-) Marty ---- Keith0alan at aol.com wrote: > My thought would be to get it roadworthy first. Do the brakes and clutch > hydraulics first, not someplace to cut corners. Tail lights need replaced. > Replace the tires. If they are rotted you just don't want to take the chance. > The front wheel bearings no doubt need at least repacked if not replaced. > After fixing the things keeping it off the road then drive it. Once you > start driving it the car will let you know what to do next. I am fond of the > "fix what speaks to me the loudest" method. Make a list of things needing > worked on. Pick one at a time and get it done. Having the car half apart > working on several different things is frustrating. Feel free to ask us a lot > of questions, that's why we are here. A bit of sanding and at least primer > are in order. If you do the prep work a low dollar paint job looks pretty > good. From eddietude at socal.rr.com Mon Aug 2 13:40:32 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 12:40:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Intro In-Reply-To: <20100802153304.OO11B.274722.imail@fed1rmwml37> References: <20100802153304.OO11B.274722.imail@fed1rmwml37> Message-ID: <4C571F30.6060007@socal.rr.com> Marty, The $1000 for the rubber isn't as bad as it seems. You get a TON of stuff, and almost everything rubber in the car is in that kit with the exception of a few items. It's actually worth the money. If you try to piecemeal it by buying the few items you can get elsewhere, (like the window channel rubber), you still need to get the items specific for the car, and individually those will cost more. Just buy the kit. I don't remember how many pieces are in there, but it's a LOT. Eddie Marty Escarcega wrote: > Keith, thanks for the info. Exactly where we were headed. I can do some paint and bodywork and likely what I will do after the mechanicals are fixed. Give a quick sand with a DA and shoot at least a light coat of red oxide primer to protect it and then work on one panel at a time. I had considered taking all the removable panels off and taking them to a fellow I know that can media blast them (he has worked on collectable vehicles and does not use sand or slag) That would save us a lot of time on the sanding, most everything has to come apart anyway for new ($1,000 ouch) rubber! :-) > > Marty > ---- Keith0alan at aol.com wrote: > >> My thought would be to get it roadworthy first. Do the brakes and clutch >> hydraulics first, not someplace to cut corners. Tail lights need replaced. >> Replace the tires. If they are rotted you just don't want to take the chance. >> The front wheel bearings no doubt need at least repacked if not replaced. >> After fixing the things keeping it off the road then drive it. Once you >> start driving it the car will let you know what to do next. I am fond of the >> "fix what speaks to me the loudest" method. Make a list of things needing >> worked on. Pick one at a time and get it done. Having the car half apart >> working on several different things is frustrating. Feel free to ask us a lot >> of questions, that's why we are here. A bit of sanding and at least primer >> are in order. If you do the prep work a low dollar paint job looks pretty >> good. >> > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From sandhoff at csus.edu Mon Aug 2 14:23:58 2010 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 13:23:58 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank repair? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4C56C6EE.13640.112897E@localhost> > Is there any hope for a gas tank with a loose baffle sliding around inside? I actually had this problem, long long ago. First, let me point out that my tank had been dry for YEARS, and had long ago outgassed any vapors (even 'dry' tanks can hold hydrocarbons for quite a while, which is one reason welding on a tank is so risky). Long story short, with shears and vice-grips and days and days of work, I was able to nibble it away thru the gas sender opening, one tiny chunk at a time. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't do it again. No... I'm SURE I wouldn't do it again :-) Michael Spreadbury (spriso motorsports) may have some ideas. He modfies the tanks for in-tank EFI pump setups, and knows how to handle them. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From roadsterx at hotmail.com Mon Aug 2 16:25:06 2010 From: roadsterx at hotmail.com (michael poorboy) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 22:25:06 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Intro for me too. In-Reply-To: <17356128.1280765448163.JavaMail.root@elwamui-little.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <17356128.1280765448163.JavaMail.root@elwamui-little.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Hey Kemp, As Dewey mentioned there are a lot of us Roadster guys in the Inland Northwest and would be happy to have you join stop by or call if you have questions. Dewey, we missed you two weekends ago at the Chumpcar 24 hour race. Joe Klokkevold and Todd Stanley put togehter a Roadster for the race, and finished in 13th overall after a two hour mechanical to pull the head and replace it. Mike Coeur d' Alene, Idaho > Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 10:10:47 -0600 > From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net > To: kemp_l at hotmail.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Intro for me too. > > Hi Kemp, there is a large following of roadster owners and fans in Spokane, WA. I live in Helena and recently learned this at the Spokane Gran Prix races. I was visiting in the pits, shooting the breeze at the tech station with 4 other guys, all 5 of us roadster owners!!! I could not believe it!!! > > Paul Jeremko of Jeremko Nissan in Spokane has sold, promoted, and raced Datsun/Nissans for 40+ years. He has 2 beautifully restored roadsters on display in his showrooms. > > The Northwest Nissan/Datsun meet is in Portland in June each year. Check that out, lots of opportunity to get excited about owning our special Datsun Roadsters. > > There is also a car club in Eastern Oregon, perhaps LeGrande or Pendleton, called Eastern Oregon Datsun owners. Might be worth checking that out too. Have fun and good luck, Dewey > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: "Kemp LaMunyon Sr." > >Sent: Aug 1, 2010 10:16 PM > >To: datsun roadsters List > >Subject: [Roadsters] Intro for me too. > > > >Hi all, > > I am new to the Roadster family but wanted to do an intro. I ran accross > >this little 1969 1600 a few days ago and had to get it. In that time I have > >ran into many people that I hope to call friend when they get to know me > >better. I joined a local car club here in walla walla wa. but seems I am the > >only one with a little beauty like this. It is defenetly a project car. I > >would like to know if there are others like me in S.E Washington area that > >would like to shoot the bull sometime. I fell in love with this little car > >when I hit second gear. Undeniable addicted by fith gear..what a dream.. > > > > > > > >Thanks > >________________________________________ From gogineni.alvin at gene.com Mon Aug 2 17:43:42 2010 From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 16:43:42 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Monterey Historics 8/13-15 @ Seca..DATSUN Corral!!! Message-ID: <807CA0C0-DAB8-47FB-BA0E-9F96742CF599@gene.com> Z Owners of Northern California(ZONC) will be hosting a Datsun/Nissan car corral at the Historic races August 13-15 at Laguna Seca. This is a very special event with several Datsuns competing and the legendary John Morton will be driving the BRE 510! The last time Morton drove 'Seca in this car was back in 2001 where he impressed crowds by winning a car-to-car battle with an Alfa. If you missed Morton pilot the famous Corkscrew back then here is your second chance! Don't miss this event and bring your Datsun/Nissan to the corral to show some support! Car Corral passes are included with admission through ZONC, ticket purchasing info is here: http://www.zcarblog.com/2010/08/02/uncategorized/monterey-historics-at-laguna-seca-813-15-datsun-corral.html Or at the ZONC website: www.zonc.org Or you can contact Tiffini Clark at tiffiniclark at gmail.com DATSUN DOMINATION! From oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com Mon Aug 2 18:54:07 2010 From: oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com (Matthew Cox) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 17:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Arizona 1968 1600 project for sale Message-ID: <656690.79224.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Trying to clean out some space. If you or anyone you know is looking for a good project just take a look at the ad. Feel free to cantact me with any questions! http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/1877481985.html Matthew... From oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com Mon Aug 2 19:14:30 2010 From: oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com (Matthew Cox) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 18:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Questions about long term storage Message-ID: <657168.57004.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hey all - I am packing up my family and moving overseas for a few years (Denmark). I am getting rid of pretty much everything I own, other than what we are taking with us and my Datsun 1600. I am going to put the car into long term storage at my mom's house, but I have a couple of questions about how exactly to do it. First issue: The engine is out of the car. I started a rebuild on it about 2 years ago and finished the bottem end, but never did get the cylinder head rebuilt so it is still out of the car. The engine is in an engine stand wrapped in garbage bags. Is it going to be ok if I just eave it as is for a few years? Maybe many years? Anything specific I should do to it before I go? What about the carbs? They were rebuilt a few years ago and are great. How should I long term store them? Tranny is just sitting out of the car. Anything I should do to it? I already need my front brakes rebuilt, but what about the rears and the master cylinder? Clutch master/slave cylinder? Any long term storage options do the rubber doesn't go bad? I am planning on draining the gas tank and blowing out the gas lines. Anything else with the fuel system? I don't care about the tires, but is it a problem for the suspension/steering to have the car sitting on the ground for many years? Anything else I should do that I may be forgetting? Basically, the car isn't a wreck right now, and was a fun driver before I took the engine out. I just want to make sure that it is not a wreck when I get back however many years from now and I can get it right back on the road. Any tips or advice are very, very appreciated. Holy crap I have so much to do before we move... Matthew... From oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com Mon Aug 2 20:05:30 2010 From: oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com (Matthew Cox) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 19:05:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Questions about long term storage In-Reply-To: <657168.57004.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <582885.22668.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I should have mentioned - The car will be stored in a dry garage in Arizona. Matthew... Hey all - I am packing up my family and moving overseas for a few years (Denmark). I am getting rid of pretty much everything I own, other than what we are taking with us and my Datsun 1600. I am going to put the car into long term storage at my mom's house, but I have a couple of questions about how exactly to do it. First issue: The engine is out of the car. I started a rebuild on it about 2 years ago and finished the bottem end, but never did get the cylinder head rebuilt so it is still out of the car. The engine is in an engine stand wrapped in garbage bags. Is it going to be ok if I just eave it as is for a few years? Maybe many years? Anything specific I should do to it before I go? What about the carbs? They were rebuilt a few years ago and are great. How should I long term store them? Tranny is just sitting out of the car. Anything I should do to it? I already need my front brakes rebuilt, but what about the rears and the master cylinder? Clutch master/slave cylinder? Any long term storage options do the rubber doesn't go bad? I am planning on draining the gas tank and blowing out the gas lines. Anything else with the fuel system? I don't care about the tires, but is it a problem for the suspension/steering to have the car sitting on the ground for many years? Anything else I should do that I may be forgetting? Basically, the car isn't a wreck right now, and was a fun driver before I took the engine out. I just want to make sure that it is not a wreck when I get back however many years from now and I can get it right back on the road. Any tips or advice are very, very appreciated. Holy crap I have so much to do before we move... Matthew... From escarcega at cox.net Mon Aug 2 21:28:10 2010 From: escarcega at cox.net (Marty Escarcega) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 20:28:10 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Any 13" wheels in the Phoenix, AZ area? Message-ID: <007001cb32bb$e5d9cb00$b18d6100$@net> Looking for some 13" wheels (a pair with half way decent tires would be nice) to put on our car to get around in until we get to the point we know what to do for tires and wheels. Thanks in advance! Marty Mesa, AZ From escarcega at cox.net Mon Aug 2 21:39:54 2010 From: escarcega at cox.net (Marty Escarcega) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 20:39:54 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Wheels Message-ID: <007f01cb32bd$897e3ab0$9c7ab010$@net> Ok, stand corrected! 14" wheels? (Thanks Ron) The fronts on our Datsun are 14" , the rears are 13"! J Marty From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Aug 2 23:06:56 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 22:06:56 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Wheels In-Reply-To: <007f01cb32bd$897e3ab0$9c7ab010$@net> References: <007f01cb32bd$897e3ab0$9c7ab010$@net> Message-ID: <000c01cb32c9$b23b5800$16b20800$@net> Stock wheel size is 14-inch all around for your '67 1600. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Marty Escarcega Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 8:40 PM To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Wheels Ok, stand corrected! 14" wheels? (Thanks Ron) The fronts on our Datsun are 14" , the rears are 13"! J Marty ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From keithddowning at yahoo.com Mon Aug 2 23:53:56 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 22:53:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Wheels In-Reply-To: <000c01cb32c9$b23b5800$16b20800$@net> References: <007f01cb32bd$897e3ab0$9c7ab010$@net> <000c01cb32c9$b23b5800$16b20800$@net> Message-ID: <277879.16857.qm@web83303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I've got a full set of 13" from my '64, but it has front drums. 14" are required for the front disk I believe, as you've discovered. Keith Orange County, CA ________________________________ From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Mon, August 2, 2010 10:06:56 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wheels Stock wheel size is 14-inch all around for your '67 1600. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Marty Escarcega Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 8:40 PM To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Wheels Ok, stand corrected! 14" wheels? (Thanks Ron) The fronts on our Datsun are 14" , the rears are 13"! J Marty ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.com From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 3 09:14:38 2010 From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 08:14:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Sparkplug Tan vs Gray color Message-ID: <438257.93318.qm@web81004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Listers, I have searched the net about reading sparkplug color and jetting but can never find a definitive answer as to the differences about tan color vs gray. It's been written usually as tan/gray is just right as my SU U20 used to run a tan. My current Mikuni Flatslides are running a medium gray. Would gray be richer than say tan? My plug base ring is showing a charcoal to black color and not rubbing off and no soot. They say it's better to be slightly on the rich side to ensure engine safety so where do I stand? Any opinions? Thanks Tom From 9laser3 at bright.net Tue Aug 3 11:02:58 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 13:02:58 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Nick in Cincy? Message-ID: <002901cb332d$ba3c4cd0$2eb4e670$@net> At the MidOhio Vintage GP I met Nick from Cincy. He was looking for a rear view mirror for his late model roadster. I found a nice one at the race barn, but now I can't find Nick. Anybody have a good email address for him? TIA, Paul Ohio From dave at eastcoastroadster.com Tue Aug 3 18:48:42 2010 From: dave at eastcoastroadster.com (dave) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 20:48:42 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Re. Sparkplug color Message-ID: Tom, I could make an assumption that the additives in current gasoline, including ethanol may alter the usual tan color for a good mixture. One way to confirm this is to examine a spark plug from your daily driver, if it's a late model fuel injected engine. By design, that would have the correct mixture, and compare the color to the Datsun. Dave Brisco East Coast Roadster -----Original Message----- From: Tom PRATHER [mailto:tomet9 at sbcglobal.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 11:15 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.ne roadster list Subject: [Roadsters] Sparkplug Tan vs Gray color Hi Listers, I have searched the net about reading sparkplug color and jetting but can never find a definitive answer as to the differences about tan color vs gray. It's been written usually as tan/gray is just right as my SU U20 used to run a tan. My current Mikuni Flatslides are running a medium gray. Would gray be richer than say tan? My plug base ring is showing a charcoal to black color and not rubbing off and no soot. They say it's better to be slightly on the rich side to ensure engine safety so where do I stand? Any opinions? Thanks Tom From jake7140 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 3 18:54:20 2010 From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 17:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] KA24 source In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <174273.62209.qm@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> All, ran across a guy in Racine, WI that likes to play with 240SXs. He currently has a "parts car" with engine and tranny, looked like a short shift kit. He just sold an extra engine. Seems to pick them up every once in a while. Currently two shells sitting in his driveway, plus his driver. Don't know all the details, just a brief conversation, and got his email: boosted240 at hotmail.com. He was asking 1500 for the parts car, but if it doesn't sell in a couple weeks will part out. Steve Steve's racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society www.elrss.com From roadster2 at schroeder-family.us Wed Aug 4 01:36:24 2010 From: roadster2 at schroeder-family.us (Fred Schroeder) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 02:36:24 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank repair? References: Message-ID: <002201cb33a7$be5dbb80$6400a8c0@efs8c31bf7afa0> I'll second the suggestion made by Linda. Gas Tank RENU http://www.gastankrenu.com/ redid my tank several years ago and their work is truly outstanding. A bit pricey but worth every penny I paid and then some. Best regards, Fred Schroeder roadster2 at schroeder-family.us Home page: http://schroeder-family.us NRA Life Member Behold the superfluous. They are always sick. They vomit their gall and call it a newspaper. Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche 1844-1900 ----- Original Message ----- From: Ned Coonen To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 8:27 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank repair? Is there any hope for a gas tank with a loose baffle sliding around inside? The tank from my '69 2000 is otherwise sound and rust-free inside (and out). I took it down to clean it out and replace the straps and discovered that it has a welded patch near one corner that appears well done and without issue. However, inside the tank I found that someone had carefully put a terry hand towel on the bottom in an attempt to stop the loose baffle from rattling. I've fished out the towel but still have the errant baffle. Is this tank savable? I think I could clean it out and re-install it but the clatter from the loose baffle would be very annoying. Ideas? Affordable tank for sale? Thanks, Ned Coonen '69 SRL-311 making a slow comeback ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadster2 at schroeder-fa mily.us From ncoonen at fastbears.com Wed Aug 4 11:29:20 2010 From: ncoonen at fastbears.com (ncoonen at fastbears.com) Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 13:29:20 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank repair? In-Reply-To: <002201cb33a7$be5dbb80$6400a8c0@efs8c31bf7afa0> References: <002201cb33a7$be5dbb80$6400a8c0@efs8c31bf7afa0> Message-ID: <20100804132920.6280501r9lj3z1ww@webmail.fastbears.com> My thanks to everyone for their suggestions and thanks especially to Mitch who has a usable tank that I will buy, clean, seal, and install. I will hang on to the baffling tank for some reason. I'm sure it will annoy my heirs when they have to clean out my garage a l-o-n-g time from now. ...ned. Quoting Fred Schroeder : > I'll second the suggestion made by Linda. Gas Tank RENU > http://www.gastankrenu.com/ redid my tank several years ago and their > work is truly outstanding. A bit pricey but worth every penny I paid > and then some. > > Best regards, > > Fred Schroeder > roadster2 at schroeder-family.us > Home page: http://schroeder-family.us > NRA Life Member > > Behold the superfluous. They are always sick. They > vomit their gall and call it a newspaper. > Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche 1844-1900 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ned Coonen > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 8:27 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank repair? > > > Is there any hope for a gas tank with a loose baffle sliding around inside? > The tank from my '69 2000 is otherwise sound and rust-free inside > (and out). > I took it down to clean it out and replace the straps and > discovered that it > has a welded patch near one corner that appears well done and > without issue. > However, inside the tank I found that someone had carefully put a > terry hand > towel on the bottom in an attempt to stop the loose baffle from rattling. > I've fished out the towel but still have the errant baffle. Is this tank > savable? I think I could clean it out and re-install it but the > clatter from > the loose baffle would be very annoying. Ideas? Affordable tank for sale? > > Thanks, > Ned Coonen > '69 SRL-311 making a slow comeback > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadster2 at schroeder-family.us From sevenmary3 at hotmail.com Wed Aug 4 14:21:55 2010 From: sevenmary3 at hotmail.com (Mike Schmike) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 20:21:55 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Wheels In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Keith- I tried to contact you off list, but message came back undeliverable. Did you change out your wheels for something else? I'm trying to do that, but looking for info on what might fit. -Mike Santa Rosa, CA '64 1500 sevenmary3 at hotmail.com > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 22:53:56 -0700 (PDT) > From: Keith Downing > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wheels > To: Pete Peters , Datsun Roadster List > > Message-ID: <277879.16857.qm at web83303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I've got a full set of 13" from my '64, but it has front drums. 14" are > required for the front disk I believe, as you've discovered. > > Keith > Orange > County, CA From jlbrooks7 at triad.rr.com Wed Aug 4 16:59:42 2010 From: jlbrooks7 at triad.rr.com (John Brooks) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 18:59:42 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Lands'End Datsun In-Reply-To: <20100804132920.6280501r9lj3z1ww@webmail.fastbears.com> References: <002201cb33a7$be5dbb80$6400a8c0@efs8c31bf7afa0> <20100804132920.6280501r9lj3z1ww@webmail.fastbears.com> Message-ID: Leafing through today's Land's End Catalog... page 24... Hey, that car's speedo looks familar... yep Datsun... It's also on the website. Anyone's on the list? http://www.landsend.com/ix/womens-clothing/Women/Assortments=New-Arrivals/index.html?seq=1~2~3&catNumbers=83&visible=1~2~1&store=le&merchAsId=8&tab=2 http://www.landsend.com/ix/womens-clothing/Women/Assortments=Heritage-Collection/index.html?seq=1~2~3&catNumbers=83&visible=1~2~1&store=le&merchAsId=445&tab=2 John Brooks 68 Fairlady 2000 From mark at bradakis.com Wed Aug 4 20:31:42 2010 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 20:31:42 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Server woes Message-ID: <20100805023142.EE5002E0D8@bradakis.com> Came home from work and found out there were issues, starting a bit after noon Utah time. Team.Net is now back on the air. I wonder how many "Is this thing on?" messages I'll have to delete over the next little while? mjb, the one who is obviously overpaid and underworked when it comes to Team.Net! From ljordan704 at netscape.net Wed Aug 4 21:30:21 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 23:30:21 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank repair? In-Reply-To: <002201cb33a7$be5dbb80$6400a8c0@efs8c31bf7afa0> References: <002201cb33a7$be5dbb80$6400a8c0@efs8c31bf7afa0> Message-ID: <8CD0265AB463934-E10-A76A@webmail-d046.sysops.aol.com> Lifetime warranty is nice. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Fred Schroeder To: Ned Coonen ; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Aug 4, 2010 12:36 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Gas tank repair? I'll second the suggestion made by Linda. Gas Tank RENU http://www.gastankrenu.com/ redid my tank several years ago and their work is truly outstanding. A bit pricey but worth every penny I paid and then some. Best regards, Fred Schroeder roadster2 at schroeder-family.us Home page: http://schroeder-family.us NRA Life Member Behold the superfluous. They are always sick. They vomit their gall and call it a newspaper. Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche 1844-1900 ----- Original Message ----- From: Ned Coonen To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 8:27 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank repair? Is there any hope for a gas tank with a loose baffle sliding around inside? The tank from my '69 2000 is otherwise sound and rust-free inside (and out). I took it down to clean it out and replace the straps and discovered that it has a welded patch near one corner that appears well done and without issue. However, inside the tank I found that someone had carefully put a terry hand towel on the bottom in an attempt to stop the loose baffle from rattling. I've fished out the towel but still have the errant baffle. Is this tank savable? I think I could clean it out and re-install it but the clatter from the loose baffle would be very annoying. Ideas? Affordable tank for sale? Thanks, Ned Coonen '69 SRL-311 making a slow comeback ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadster2 at schroeder-fa mily.us ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From jeremymayne at msn.com Thu Aug 5 07:29:54 2010 From: jeremymayne at msn.com (jeremy mayne) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 13:29:54 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Lands'End Datsun In-Reply-To: References: <002201cb33a7$be5dbb80$6400a8c0@efs8c31bf7afa0>, <20100804132920.6280501r9lj3z1ww@webmail.fastbears.com>, Message-ID: Those elegant ladies and I have the same impeccable taste in cars: Datsun roadster AND Volvo 245 Wagon! ;-) > From: jlbrooks7 at triad.rr.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 18:59:42 -0400 > Subject: [Roadsters] Lands'End Datsun > > Leafing through today's Land's End Catalog... page 24... Hey, that car's > speedo looks familar... > yep Datsun... > It's also on the website. > > Anyone's on the list? > > http://www.landsend.com/ix/womens-clothing/Women/Assortments=New-Arrivals/ind ex.html?seq=1~2~3&catNumbers=83&visible=1~2~1&store=le&merchAsId=8&tab=2 > > http://www.landsend.com/ix/womens-clothing/Women/Assortments=Heritage-Collect ion/index.html?seq=1~2~3&catNumbers=83&visible=1~2~1&store=le&merchAsId=445&t ab=2 > > John Brooks > 68 Fairlady 2000 > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/jeremymayne at msn.com From boakes at gmail.com Thu Aug 5 08:56:30 2010 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 09:56:30 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Time to install the engine/trans Message-ID: Hi gang, real progress on the Roadster, ready to install the engine and trans. When I've done this on my 240z's, it was sometimes easier to install them together (engine and trans) in one piece. What's the best way for the Roadster? thanks -bill '68 2000 Solex Libertyville, IL From ericerichoffman at yahoo.com Thu Aug 5 09:09:55 2010 From: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com (Eric Hoffman) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 08:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 2 litre carb bolts on ebay Message-ID: <755915.97825.qm@web36905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> anybody have any idea where these go? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/67-5-Datsun-Roadster-2-litre-carb-bolts-new-pa ckage-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4aa3649714QQitemZ320568858388QQptZMotorsQ5f CarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories ebay item number 320568858388 From keithddowning at yahoo.com Thu Aug 5 09:38:30 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 08:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Time to install the engine/trans In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <755077.90028.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I believe installing them together is required. Keith ________________________________ From: Bill Oakes To: Roadster List Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 7:56:30 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Time to install the engine/trans Hi gang, real progress on the Roadster, ready to install the engine and trans. When I've done this on my 240z's, it was sometimes easier to install them together (engine and trans) in one piece. What's the best way for the Roadster? thanks -bill '68 2000 Solex Libertyville, IL ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.com From roadster68 at shaw.ca Thu Aug 5 09:55:03 2010 From: roadster68 at shaw.ca (Larry Dziuba) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 09:55:03 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Time to install the engine/trans References: <755077.90028.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: definitely! Larry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Downing" To: ; "Roadster List" Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Time to install the engine/trans >I believe installing them together is required. > > Keith > ________________________________ > From: Bill Oakes > To: > Roadster List > Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 > 7:56:30 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] Time to install the engine/trans > > Hi gang, > real progress on the Roadster, ready to install the engine and trans. > > When > I've done this on my 240z's, it was sometimes easier to install > them together > (engine and trans) in one piece. What's the best way for > the Roadster? > > thanks > -bill > > '68 2000 Solex > Libertyville, IL > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.com > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadster68 at shaw.ca From RWM at RWMann.com Thu Aug 5 09:57:09 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 11:57:09 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 2 litre carb bolts on ebay In-Reply-To: <755915.97825.qm@web36905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <755915.97825.qm@web36905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C5ADF55.80705@RWMann.com> Eric, Those are banjo bolts that hold the fuel supply barbs to the side of the Mikuni Solex carbs. - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex Eric Hoffman wrote: > anybody have any idea where these go? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/67-5-Datsun-Roadster-2-litre-carb-bolts-new-pa > ckage-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4aa3649714QQitemZ320568858388QQptZMotorsQ5f > CarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories > > ebay item number 320568858388 From 9laser3 at bright.net Thu Aug 5 10:09:35 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 12:09:35 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Time to install the engine/trans In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000d01cb34b8$9a7951e0$cf6bf5a0$@net> Bill, I have heard that it can be done either way, but at the race barn, we ALWAYS mount the transmission to the engine PRIOR to installing. One hint, depending on your exhaust manifold/header, you may or may not want to leave it off the engine while installing. Try without the header on, but check fitment before bolting everything down. Same goes for the starter. And we mount the engine mounts to the frame first and set the engine on them. We also leave off the distributor and oil filter until the motor is sitting on the mounts. Saves from possibly damaging them. Paul Ohio Sloan Racing -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Oakes Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 10:57 AM To: Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] Time to install the engine/trans Hi gang, real progress on the Roadster, ready to install the engine and trans. When I've done this on my 240z's, it was sometimes easier to install them together (engine and trans) in one piece. What's the best way for the Roadster? thanks -bill '68 2000 Solex Libertyville, IL ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net From boakes at gmail.com Thu Aug 5 10:13:19 2010 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 11:13:19 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Time to install the engine/trans In-Reply-To: References: <755077.90028.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks all, together they will go. -bill On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Larry Dziuba wrote: > definitely! Larry. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Downing" > To: ; "Roadster List" > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 9:38 AM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Time to install the engine/trans > > >> I believe installing them together is required. >> >> Keith >> ________________________________ >> From: Bill Oakes >> To: >> Roadster List >> Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 >> 7:56:30 AM >> Subject: [Roadsters] Time to install the engine/trans >> >> Hi gang, >> real progress on the Roadster, ready to install the engine and trans. >> >> When >> I've done this on my 240z's, it was sometimes easier to install >> them together >> (engine and trans) in one piece. What's the best way for >> the Roadster? >> >> thanks >> -bill >> >> '68 2000 Solex >> Libertyville, IL >> ________________________________________ >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.co m >> ________________________________________ >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadster68 at shaw.ca >> > > > -- Bill Oakes bill at billoakes.com http://billoakes.com 312-607-1667 404 Broadway Libertyville, IL 60048 From 9laser3 at bright.net Thu Aug 5 10:18:08 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 12:18:08 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 2 litre carb bolts on ebay In-Reply-To: <755915.97825.qm@web36905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <755915.97825.qm@web36905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000e01cb34b9$cbdf8a50$639e9ef0$@net> Commonly referred to as the fuel line "banjo" bolt. It bolts into the float chamber cover and holds the fuel line in place. The fuel screen slides over it. And while it is listed as "67.5", it is only used on SU's which did NOT come on 67.5 2000 roadsters. They used Solex carbs. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eric Hoffman Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:10 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] 2 litre carb bolts on ebay anybody have any idea where these go? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/67-5-Datsun-Roadster-2-litre-carb-bolts-new-p a ckage-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4aa3649714QQitemZ320568858388QQptZMotorsQ5 f CarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories ebay item number 320568858388 ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net From ericerichoffman at yahoo.com Thu Aug 5 10:50:45 2010 From: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com (Eric Hoffman) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 09:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 solex and SU Message-ID: <958655.72585.qm@web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Paul- thank you for the response. I thought Solex were an option in 67.5 and SU's were also available. Anyone? From notoptoy at live.com Thu Aug 5 10:56:14 2010 From: notoptoy at live.com (Tom Lorick) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 12:56:14 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] roadsters - Rallye Site Down? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Is it just me, or is the Rallye Website down (datsunroadster.com)? I've been trying for 2 days or so to get to it, with no luck. I always start there, then call, so I don't have their phone number!! Seems I should have it memorized by now. Just me, or is anyone else having an issue? Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:57 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 4, Issue 274 Send Datsun-roadsters mailing list submissions to datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at datsun-roadsters-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Datsun-roadsters digest..." From RWM at RWMann.com Thu Aug 5 10:59:41 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 12:59:41 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] --> Re: 2 litre carb bolts on ebay In-Reply-To: <000e01cb34b9$cbdf8a50$639e9ef0$@net> References: <755915.97825.qm@web36905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000e01cb34b9$cbdf8a50$639e9ef0$@net> Message-ID: <4C5AEDFD.9030805@RWMann.com> Paul, I have no idea about SUs, but my 44PHH-2 carbs have one each of these banjo bolts. As you say, a brass screen sleeves over the bolt, which holds the fuel supply barb to the float chamber. - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex Paul wrote: > Commonly referred to as the fuel line "banjo" bolt. It bolts into the > float chamber cover and holds the fuel line in place. The fuel screen > slides over it. And while it is listed as "67.5", it is only used on SU's > which did NOT come on 67.5 2000 roadsters. They used Solex carbs. > > Paul > Ohio > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eric Hoffman > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:10 AM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] 2 litre carb bolts on ebay > > anybody have any idea where these go? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/67-5-Datsun-Roadster-2-litre-carb-bolts-new-p > a > ckage-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4aa3649714QQitemZ320568858388QQptZMotorsQ5 > f > CarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories > > ebay item number 320568858388 > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rwm at rwmann.com > -- R.W. Mann & Company, Inc. >> Airline Industry Analysis Port Washington, NY 11050 >> tel 516-944-0900, fax -7280 mailto:info at RWMann.com >> URL http://www.RWMann.com/ This e-mail is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the above sender immediately then delete the original e-mail. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. From 9laser3 at bright.net Thu Aug 5 11:02:21 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 13:02:21 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 2 litre carb bolts on ebay In-Reply-To: <4C5ADF55.80705@RWMann.com> References: <755915.97825.qm@web36905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C5ADF55.80705@RWMann.com> Message-ID: <001201cb34bf$fcd115b0$f6734110$@net> Bob, My parts manual is a bit incomplete, but I found that part number used on the SU's for a 2000? I found #16108-25520 as the Solex version. Paul -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of RWM Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:57 AM To: Eric Hoffman Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 2 litre carb bolts on ebay Eric, Those are banjo bolts that hold the fuel supply barbs to the side of the Mikuni Solex carbs. - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex Eric Hoffman wrote: > anybody have any idea where these go? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/67-5-Datsun-Roadster-2-litre-carb-bolts-new-p a > ckage-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4aa3649714QQitemZ320568858388QQptZMotorsQ5 f > CarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories > > ebay item number 320568858388 ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net From 9laser3 at bright.net Thu Aug 5 11:16:21 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 13:16:21 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] --> Re: 2 litre carb bolts on ebay In-Reply-To: <4C5AEDFD.9030805@RWMann.com> References: <755915.97825.qm@web36905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000e01cb34b9$cbdf8a50$639e9ef0$@net> <4C5AEDFD.9030805@RWMann.com> Message-ID: <001b01cb34c1$ee4394d0$cacabe70$@net> Bob, Not meant as a flame or to challenge, but according to my parts manual, both SU's and Solex use that style banjo bolts, but since Nissan gave them separate part numbers, I wonder if they are interchangeable? Perhaps a different thread or length? Su's = 16108-18010 Solex = 16108-25520 Can anybody chip in $0.02 and clear up my confusion? Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: RWM [mailto:RWM at RWMann.com] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 1:00 PM To: Paul Cc: 'Eric Hoffman'; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: --> Re: [Roadsters] 2 litre carb bolts on ebay Paul, I have no idea about SUs, but my 44PHH-2 carbs have one each of these banjo bolts. As you say, a brass screen sleeves over the bolt, which holds the fuel supply barb to the float chamber. - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex Paul wrote: > Commonly referred to as the fuel line "banjo" bolt. It bolts into the > float chamber cover and holds the fuel line in place. The fuel screen > slides over it. And while it is listed as "67.5", it is only used on SU's > which did NOT come on 67.5 2000 roadsters. They used Solex carbs. > > Paul > Ohio > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eric Hoffman > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:10 AM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] 2 litre carb bolts on ebay > > anybody have any idea where these go? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/67-5-Datsun-Roadster-2-litre-carb-bolts-new-p > a > ckage-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4aa3649714QQitemZ320568858388QQptZMotorsQ5 > f > CarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories > > ebay item number 320568858388 > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rwm at rwmann.com > -- R.W. Mann & Company, Inc. >> Airline Industry Analysis Port Washington, NY 11050 >> tel 516-944-0900, fax -7280 mailto:info at RWMann.com >> URL http://www.RWMann.com/ This e-mail is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the above sender immediately then delete the original e-mail. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. From RWM at RWMann.com Thu Aug 5 11:17:48 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 13:17:48 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] --> Re: 2 litre carb bolts on ebay In-Reply-To: <001b01cb34c1$ee4394d0$cacabe70$@net> References: <755915.97825.qm@web36905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000e01cb34b9$cbdf8a50$639e9ef0$@net> <4C5AEDFD.9030805@RWMann.com> <001b01cb34c1$ee4394d0$cacabe70$@net> Message-ID: <4C5AF23C.5080108@RWMann.com> Beats me, Paul. Paul wrote: > Bob, > > Not meant as a flame or to challenge, but according to my parts manual, > both SU's and Solex use that style banjo bolts, but since Nissan gave them > separate part numbers, I wonder if they are interchangeable? Perhaps a > different thread or length? > > Su's = 16108-18010 > Solex = 16108-25520 > > Can anybody chip in $0.02 and clear up my confusion? > > Paul > Ohio > > -----Original Message----- > From: RWM [mailto:RWM at RWMann.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 1:00 PM > To: Paul > Cc: 'Eric Hoffman'; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: --> Re: [Roadsters] 2 litre carb bolts on ebay > > Paul, > > I have no idea about SUs, but my 44PHH-2 carbs have one each of these > banjo bolts. > > As you say, a brass screen sleeves over the bolt, which holds the fuel > supply barb to the float chamber. > > - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex > > > > Paul wrote: > >> Commonly referred to as the fuel line "banjo" bolt. It bolts into the >> float chamber cover and holds the fuel line in place. The fuel screen >> slides over it. And while it is listed as "67.5", it is only used on SU's >> which did NOT come on 67.5 2000 roadsters. They used Solex carbs. >> >> Paul >> Ohio >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net >> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eric Hoffman >> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:10 AM >> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Subject: [Roadsters] 2 litre carb bolts on ebay >> >> anybody have any idea where these go? >> >> >> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/67-5-Datsun-Roadster-2-litre-carb-bolts-new-p > >> a >> >> > ckage-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4aa3649714QQitemZ320568858388QQptZMotorsQ5 > >> f >> CarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories >> >> ebay item number 320568858388 From 9laser3 at bright.net Thu Aug 5 11:18:59 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 13:18:59 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 solex and SU In-Reply-To: <958655.72585.qm@web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <958655.72585.qm@web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001c01cb34c2$4baa8fc0$e2ffaf40$@net> Not sure why, but I was thinking that all 67/5s were Solex and after that, they were a dealer's option. Paul Confused and bewildered in Ohio! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eric Hoffman Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 12:51 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 solex and SU Paul- thank you for the response. I thought Solex were an option in 67.5 and SU's were also available. Anyone? ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net From alagams at juno.com Thu Aug 5 11:28:36 2010 From: alagams at juno.com (alagams at juno.com) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 17:28:36 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] roadsters - Rallye Site Down? Message-ID: <20100805.132836.18235.0@webmail20.dca.untd.com> I don't have a problem, just tried. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Tom Lorick" To: Subject: Re: [Roadsters] roadsters - Rallye Site Down? Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 12:56:14 -0400 Is it just me, or is the Rallye Website down (datsunroadster.com)? I've been trying for 2 days or so to get to it, with no luck. I always start there, then call, so I don't have their phone number!! Seems I should have it memorized by now. Just me, or is anyone else having an issue? Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:57 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 4, Issue 274 Send Datsun-roadsters mailing list submissions to datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at datsun-roadsters-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Datsun-roadsters digest..." ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/alagams at juno.com ____________________________________________________________ SHOCKING: 13" Macbook Pro for $91.72! SPECIAL REPORT: Macbooks are being auctioned for an incredible 85% off! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c5af4f865b255d4ae6st01duc From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Aug 5 11:37:13 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 10:37:13 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] roadsters - Rallye Site Down? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003401cb34c4$d75c35d0$8614a170$@net> Site works just fine for me. Rallye's ph #: 360-893-4200 Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Lorick Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 9:56 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] roadsters - Rallye Site Down? Is it just me, or is the Rallye Website down (datsunroadster.com)? I've been trying for 2 days or so to get to it, with no luck. I always start there, then call, so I don't have their phone number!! Seems I should have it memorized by now. Just me, or is anyone else having an issue? Thanks! From slowboy at cox.net Thu Aug 5 11:47:57 2010 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 10:47:57 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] roadsters - Rallye Site Down? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001401cb34c6$572ac1e0$058045a0$@cox.net> Must be you! 360-893-4200 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Lorick Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 9:56 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] roadsters - Rallye Site Down? Is it just me, or is the Rallye Website down (datsunroadster.com)? I've been trying for 2 days or so to get to it, with no luck. I always start there, then call, so I don't have their phone number!! Seems I should have it memorized by now. Just me, or is anyone else having an issue? Thanks! From keithddowning at yahoo.com Thu Aug 5 11:52:15 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 10:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] roadsters - Rallye Site Down? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <288376.94773.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Site is not "down", but they are out until Aug 11. " We will be closed until August 11th. >As always; you can email your inquiry or order anytime; and we can then be able >to get to work on it sooner than if you wait for us to "open" again. >We are in the process of going through used parts storage areas that have been >ignored for years; so more items will be appearing on the website. I think I >have found 35 used or partially rebuilt 2000 cylinder heads. Some of this stuff >dates from the 70s and our move in 1981. ________________________________ From: Tom Lorick To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 9:56:14 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] roadsters - Rallye Site Down? Is it just me, or is the Rallye Website down (datsunroadster.com)? I've been trying for 2 days or so to get to it, with no luck. I always start there, then call, so I don't have their phone number!! Seems I should have it memorized by now. Just me, or is anyone else having an issue? Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:57 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 4, Issue 274 Send Datsun-roadsters mailing list submissions to datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at datsun-roadsters-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Datsun-roadsters digest..." ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.com From d_kroninger at hotmail.com Thu Aug 5 12:09:54 2010 From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 13:09:54 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] roadsters - Rallye Site Down? In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Here is the number if you need it 360-893-4200 > From: notoptoy at live.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 12:56:14 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] roadsters - Rallye Site Down? > > Is it just me, or is the Rallye Website down (datsunroadster.com)? I've > been trying for 2 days or so to get to it, with no luck. I always start > there, then call, so I don't have their phone number!! Seems I should have > it memorized by now. Just me, or is anyone else having an issue? > Thanks! > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:57 AM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 4, Issue 274 > > Send Datsun-roadsters mailing list submissions to > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > datsun-roadsters-owner at autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of Datsun-roadsters digest..." > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/d_kroninger at hotmail.co m From fj201 at cox.net Thu Aug 5 12:17:29 2010 From: fj201 at cox.net (Ron Hamilton) Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 11:17:29 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 solex and SU In-Reply-To: <958655.72585.qm@web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <958655.72585.qm@web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C5B0039.6080408@cox.net> Solex carbs were a dealer installed option in the US on 67 1/2 2L cars. As I understand it all USA dealerships received SU carbed cars. The dealer could install a cam and carbs at the owner's request but due to the changes made for the 1/2 year (safety, emissions etc) the 1/2 year cars weren't allowed with Solex, different that Canadian cars. 480-363-1399 Ron's Little Machine Shop Mesa,AZ On 8/5/2010 9:50 AM, Eric Hoffman wrote: > Paul- thank you for the response. I thought Solex were an option in 67.5 and > SU's were also available. Anyone? > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/fj201 at cox.net From notoptoy at live.com Thu Aug 5 12:54:50 2010 From: notoptoy at live.com (Tom Lorick) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 14:54:50 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster - Rallye site down? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OK, it must be my ISP, CLEAR. I used their online chat tech support, they could get on, but they weren't using clear service!! How's that for genius, their own tech support doesn't even use their service. At least they weren't from some foreign country somewhere. They were not able to tell me whether or not that is a supported site. Crazy! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 2:00 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 4, Issue 276 Send Datsun-roadsters mailing list submissions to datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at datsun-roadsters-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Datsun-roadsters digest..." From 9laser3 at bright.net Thu Aug 5 14:54:51 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 16:54:51 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 solex and SU In-Reply-To: <4C5B0039.6080408@cox.net> References: <958655.72585.qm@web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C5B0039.6080408@cox.net> Message-ID: <003a01cb34e0$74570610$5d051230$@net> Read the carb section in an old Rosing Sun catalog and it agrees with Ron. Solex were installed in some 200 '67 roadsters in order to race them. After that they were installed in some, but not all 2000s. But the part number in the Ebay ad is still listed as a SU part number?? Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Hamilton Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 2:17 PM To: Eric Hoffman Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 67.5 solex and SU Solex carbs were a dealer installed option in the US on 67 1/2 2L cars. As I understand it all USA dealerships received SU carbed cars. The dealer could install a cam and carbs at the owner's request but due to the changes made for the 1/2 year (safety, emissions etc) the 1/2 year cars weren't allowed with Solex, different that Canadian cars. 480-363-1399 Ron's Little Machine Shop Mesa,AZ On 8/5/2010 9:50 AM, Eric Hoffman wrote: > Paul- thank you for the response. I thought Solex were an option in 67.5 and > SU's were also available. Anyone? > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/fj201 at cox.net ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net From poontang188 at hotmail.com Thu Aug 5 15:40:26 2010 From: poontang188 at hotmail.com (Scott Sheeler) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 17:40:26 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 solex and SU In-Reply-To: <003a01cb34e0$74570610$5d051230$@net> References: <958655.72585.qm@web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <4C5B0039.6080408@cox.net>, <003a01cb34e0$74570610$5d051230$@net> Message-ID: Actually, the DATSUN Service Bulletin introducing the 1967 1/2 cars is more specific about the change between Solexes and SU's. There was a specific production date cut-off in the spring of 1967 when DATSUN stopped installing Solexes at the factory and replaced them with SU's. It was based on date - not a specific serial number or production count near as we can tell. It just so happens that the date cut-off was in the 200's of the car numbers. It also notes that the first production 2000 was SRL311-00003. This information is included in the Service Bulletin reprint section of Part III of The Datsun Roadster Book. Scott Sheeler http://thedatsunroadsterbook.com/ > From: 9laser3 at bright.net > To: fj201 at cox.net; ericerichoffman at yahoo.com > Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 16:54:51 -0400 > CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 67.5 solex and SU > > Read the carb section in an old Rosing Sun catalog and it agrees with Ron. > Solex were installed in some 200 '67 roadsters in order to race them. After > that they were installed in some, but not all 2000s. > But the part number in the Ebay ad is still listed as a SU part number?? > > Paul > Ohio > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Hamilton > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 2:17 PM > To: Eric Hoffman > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 67.5 solex and SU > > Solex carbs were a dealer installed option in the US on 67 1/2 2L cars. > As I understand it all USA dealerships received SU carbed cars. The > dealer could install a cam and carbs at the owner's request but due to > the changes made for the 1/2 year (safety, emissions etc) the 1/2 year > cars weren't allowed with Solex, different that Canadian cars. > > 480-363-1399 > Ron's Little Machine Shop > Mesa,AZ > > > On 8/5/2010 9:50 AM, Eric Hoffman wrote: > > Paul- thank you for the response. I thought Solex were an option in 67.5 > and > > SU's were also available. Anyone? > > ________________________________________ > > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/fj201 at cox.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/poontang188 at hotmail.co m From gcallahan at prodigy.net Thu Aug 5 15:41:52 2010 From: gcallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 14:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Car Show This Saturday at the Garlic Festival Message-ID: <205815.33300.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I finally got my car back, from the shop yesterday, so I'm going to enter it into the Garlic Festival Car Show, in North Plains, Oregon, this Saturday. Anyone else going to enter their car? The show is sponsered by a T-Bird club (http://nwtbirds.com/home.html) and the entry fee is $15.00 I think it would be great if we had a bunch of Datsuns all parked together. What do you say folks? Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 From chalsted at comcast.net Sat Aug 7 07:48:40 2010 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 13:48:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] U20 Camshaft question Message-ID: <994916565.795088.1281188920209.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> trying to identify a camshaft I have here- 13001-25500 is listed as a Solex cam this one is very beefy but doesn't have an A or a B on the end of the cam has the number 25510 on the end of the cam instead and a wire tag with 13001-25510 on it can anyone identify it for me? thanks, Craig From keithddowning at yahoo.com Sat Aug 7 08:15:04 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 07:15:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Bluebird on BAT Message-ID: <515112.27627.qm@web83301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> http://bringatrailer.com/2010/08/06/1966-datsun-411-bluebird/ From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Sat Aug 7 10:45:58 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 09:45:58 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Monterey Historics - Laguna Seca - August 14th Message-ID: i'm going up for saturday - leaving Los Angeles(van nuys) around 2AM saturday morning and coming back saturday night. any socal members interested in coming along - going to take advantage of the nissan/datsun corral offer lmk peter From dave at ranteer.com Sat Aug 7 13:51:04 2010 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave) Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 14:51:04 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] hydraulic hood support In-Reply-To: References: <1172064568.433939.1279904456680.JavaMail.root@sz0093a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: has anyone done this for a roadster? replace the existing support bar? From dato1500 at hotmail.com Sun Aug 8 05:12:41 2010 From: dato1500 at hotmail.com (Peter Jones) Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 19:12:41 +0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Hazard Switch Message-ID: G'day Roadster People. I am in need of a hazard switch for the 1968 model highscreen it is the 5 wire style, let me know if any one has one spare as I have the 9 wire which does not suit the harness I have. This little switch will need to travel to Australia to begin it new life down under. If anyone has one they are willing to part with contact me off list. cheers Peter j From reefpix at gmail.com Sun Aug 8 17:03:50 2010 From: reefpix at gmail.com (James Wiseman) Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 18:03:50 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Just Bought SRL311-07371 - Sitting 17 years! Message-ID: Hi Everyone, I posted this on the forum but thought I'd cross post here for the folks who don't use both. I got some good feedback there. I guess this is my re-introduction msg too. I used to be active on the list and the forums back when I owned a '66 1600 back in the 90's. Well, I'm "all growed up" now and have a home/garage of my own to put to good use. [image: :-)] I moved out from the Bay Area (lots of roadsters) to Houston - and am glad to see that there are a few out here. Alas - is Tom Walter still active? It looks like he stopped participating a looong time ago (dating myself). Anyone know what happened to him? I just bought this car on Ebay: http://www.reefpix.org/v/Cars/69-datsun-2000/ Will hopefully be here on Wednesday (fingers crossed). The car has been in a garage under a cover since 1993! So superficially she looks pretty good (some rust at rear of front wheel-wells is all I can see from the pix) but I am gearing up for a thorough project. My question for the group is what is the "procedure" for getting a roadster running again after sitting this long? I read the excellent article on the Wiki (http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.p ... on.StartUp) but I have a feeling I'm in for a lot more. Here's what I have a feeling I'll be doing: New or rebuilt brake and clutch master (hopefully ok) New or rebuilt brake calipers and cylinders Carb cleaning and maybe throttle re-bush Gas tank cleaning and possible coating Cooling system total breakdown and cleaning, re-core radiator (I live in TX) Water pump???? Fuel pump - not sure. Replace, or go electric? Wheel bearings and axle/chassis re-grease Steering box/linkages - I hope these are OK [image: :-)] Pop valve cover and check tensioner and l-bracket Pop oil pan and check for debris, have a look at rods/bearings and oil pump New top vinyl eventually. Frame looks all there. What are y'all's thoughts? What should I definitely plan for, what should I expect, and what should I check out when the car gets here? Thanks - and it's good to be back! James Wiseman From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 9 09:42:34 2010 From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 08:42:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Nice 5 point wheels Message-ID: <746971.89799.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Saw this on Craigslist, too bad they're not 14/15s but wouldn't they fit a 1500? http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/pts/1888392524.html From aultgc at att.net Mon Aug 9 22:21:03 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 23:21:03 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] eBay Offerings Message-ID: Did anyone else notice the guy who goes by "pastosauce" offering a steering wheel with a $0.01 opening bid, but $129.99 in shipping and handling? Similar situation with his wiper arms offering -- $69.99 shipping and handling. I hope no one falls into his trap. Gary From stevenehlers at charter.net Mon Aug 9 22:27:21 2010 From: stevenehlers at charter.net (stevenehlers at charter.net) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 21:27:21 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Just Bought SRL311-07371 - Sitting 17 years! Message-ID: <20100810002721.P36E5.9829294.root@mp12> Hey James , I saw your posting on the Forum .Where in Texas are you located ? I own the Oldest Datsun /Nissan Z car specialty Shop in North Texas ,and possibly the Oldest Datsun Specialty shop in the state . I have owned my Datsun Roadsters for over 35 years ,and for my customers I have done complete Restorations and Race car Prep on them in the 30+ years we have been in business . Give me call sometime to discuss your cars reincarnation . Regards , Steve www.risingsunperformance.com From ljordan704 at netscape.net Mon Aug 9 22:34:56 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 00:34:56 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] eBay Offerings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CD065C84D038A4-21D4-83F3@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> It's a way to avoid the EBAY fees, I believe. Just decide if 130 is what you want to pay for a steering wheel or not. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Gary and Cindy Ault To: Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net Sent: Mon, Aug 9, 2010 9:21 pm Subject: [Roadsters] eBay Offerings Did anyone else notice the guy who goes by "pastosauce" offering a steering wheel with a $0.01 opening bid, but $129.99 in shipping and handling? Similar situation with his wiper arms offering -- $69.99 shipping and handling. I hope no one falls into his trap. Gary ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From classicautorecycling at yahoo.com Tue Aug 10 00:40:54 2010 From: classicautorecycling at yahoo.com (classicautorecycling at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 02:40:54 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Welcome to the "Datsun-roadsters" mailing list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <945bc829-2cdd-4c87-9de3-1d83702dfff3@blur> Why is there so much hate here on this message board? Why towards someone with parts for sale? Did I bring your daughter home too late last night? You haters know who you are and so does everyone else on here. Toomuch free time on your hands!?!? If you don't want. or need parts for your Roadster, then erase my posts. If you have nothing better to do with your life, then please continue to hate. Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net To: Classicautorecycling at yahoo.com Sent: Sat, Jun 12, 2010 17:36:29 GMT+00:00 Subject: Welcome to the "Datsun-roadsters" mailing list Welcome to the Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net mailing list! To post to this list, send your email to: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net General information about the mailing list is at: http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/classicautorecycling%4 0yahoo.com You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: Datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. It is: BAXTER1 Normally, Mailman will remind you of your autox.team.net mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. From chalsted at comcast.net Tue Aug 10 05:53:40 2010 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:53:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] classicautorecycling In-Reply-To: <1657441153.874875.1281441198994.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1926364831.874882.1281441220918.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I sent this individual the following note: I think folks are just tired of the weekly postings- you are not supposed to post commercial stuff more than once a month on the list This is his reply: "Too bad" so looks like we'll probably be bombarded with his posts for as long as he is on the list, doesn't seem to have much respect for the rules. Craig From mkiisupra at hotmail.com Tue Aug 10 08:33:48 2010 From: mkiisupra at hotmail.com (Eric Gillis) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 14:33:48 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Welcome to the "Datsun-roadsters" mailing list In-Reply-To: <945bc829-2cdd-4c87-9de3-1d83702dfff3@blur> References: , <945bc829-2cdd-4c87-9de3-1d83702dfff3@blur> Message-ID: Patrick, Please understand by using your mobile device and placing such caustic greetings on your first posting to a new forum may not be the greatest business step forward. Also please understand that in your first missive, you ignorantly left your password which still is active. Although I do have great amount of self-control with this information (like changing password to lock you out, and unsubscribe you) others may not, especially when greeted with the 'hater' rhetoric as a first impression. There are several centuries of combined experience and love for our cars, so you should be able to understand our hesitation with non-traditional eBay/seller practices. We tend to try to protect our own... Enjoy, not every venue on the internet is a capital enterprise, try 311s.org 'for sale' section however. Eric G > If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to > or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your > subscription page at: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/classicautorecycling%4 > 0yahoo.com > > You must know your password to change your options (including changing > the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. It is: > > BAXTER1 From efrisbee at charter.net Tue Aug 10 08:50:33 2010 From: efrisbee at charter.net (Eric T. Frisbee) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:50:33 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] classicautorecycling In-Reply-To: <1926364831.874882.1281441220918.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1926364831.874882.1281441220918.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <82DAA15A-9C06-4F0A-B1F2-E589AE736DE2@charter.net> Easy one! Don't buy his stuff! :) Sent from my iPhone On Aug 10, 2010, at 6:53 AM, chalsted at comcast.net wrote: > I sent this individual the following note: > > I think folks are just tired of the weekly postings- you are not supposed to post commercial stuff more than once a month on the list > > This is his reply: > > "Too bad" > > so looks like we'll probably be bombarded with his posts for as long as he is on the list, doesn't seem to have much respect for the rules. > > Craig > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/efrisbee at charter.net From classicautorecycling at yahoo.com Tue Aug 10 10:09:21 2010 From: classicautorecycling at yahoo.com (classicautorecycling at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 12:09:21 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Watch Out In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think I will walk on eggshells` round here from now on chalsted will try to hack your account but he's not very good at it. gary and cindy have nothing but time on their hands, (probably borrowed) so don't make them mad or they will say mean things about the people and things they do not like. Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net To: Classicautorecycling at yahoo.com Sent: Tue, Aug 10, 2010 15:54:23 GMT+00:00 Subject: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net mailing list reminder You, or someone posing as you, has requested a password reminder for your membership on the mailing list datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net. You will need this password in order to change your membership options (e.g. do you want regular delivery or digest delivery), and having this password makes it easier for you to unsubscribe from the mailing list. You are subscribed with the address: Classicautorecycling at yahoo.com Your Datsun-roadsters password is: FuckOff#2 To make changes to your membership options, log in and visit your options web page: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/classicautorecycling%4 0yahoo.com You can also make such changes via email by sending a message to: datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net with the text "help" in the subject or body. The automatic reply will contain more detailed instructions. Questions or comments? Please send them to the Datsun-roadsters mailing list administrator at datsun-roadsters-owner at autox.team.net. From eddietude at socal.rr.com Tue Aug 10 10:36:50 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:36:50 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Welcome to the "Datsun-roadsters" mailing list In-Reply-To: References: , <945bc829-2cdd-4c87-9de3-1d83702dfff3@blur> Message-ID: <4C618022.6070508@socal.rr.com> "There are several centuries of combined experience and love for our cars, so you should be able to understand our hesitation with non-traditional eBay/seller practices." I'd say there are several centuries of entitlement, and self-righteousness when it comes to the Datsun Roadster. "We tend to try to protect our own." HAhahahahaaha. No, not really. "Enjoy, not every venue on the internet is a capital enterprise, try 311s.org 'for sale' section however." There's nothing wrong with someone making it known they have parts for sale. NO ONE would have an issue if he was listing fendors for say, $25. The problem some have is they think his prices are too high. But if he was "fire saleing" everything, many of the people who complain would be ALL FOR his listing, and they'd be touting what a great deal the stuff is. So let's cut the bullshit. The problem some have isn't with his listings, it's the PRICES he's asking. And that's because they are cheap asses with a sense of entitlement to Raodster parts... > Eric G From chalsted at comcast.net Tue Aug 10 10:41:04 2010 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 16:41:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Watch Out In-Reply-To: <728092035.886917.1281458240245.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <719842943.887050.1281458462165.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >chalsted will try to hack your account but he's not very good at it. I absolutely did not try to hack your account, suggest you watch your accusations Craig From pat at hornesystemstx.com Tue Aug 10 10:56:35 2010 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:56:35 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Watch Out In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C6184C3.4020602@hornesystemstx.com> Well, it is not often that I apply a filter to one on this list, but I did this email address. This should take care of his hate mail and his more than monthly offerings. Peace, Pat Thusly spake classicautorecycling at yahoo.com, On 8/10/2010 11:09 AM: > I think I will walk on eggshells` round here from now on > > chalsted will try to hack your account but he's not very good at it. > > gary and cindy have nothing but time on their hands, (probably borrowed) so > don't make them mad or they will say mean things about the people and things > they do not like. > Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless > > -----Original message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > To: Classicautorecycling at yahoo.com > Sent: Tue, Aug 10, 2010 15:54:23 GMT+00:00 > Subject: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net mailing list reminder > > You, or someone posing as you, has requested a password reminder for > your membership on the mailing list datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net. > You will need this password in order to change your membership options > (e.g. do you want regular delivery or digest delivery), and having > this password makes it easier for you to unsubscribe from the mailing > list. > > You are subscribed with the address: Classicautorecycling at yahoo.com > > Your Datsun-roadsters password is: FuckOff#2 > > To make changes to your membership options, log in and visit your > options web page: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/classicautorecycling%4 > 0yahoo.com > > > You can also make such changes via email by sending a message to: > > datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net > > with the text "help" in the subject or body. The automatic reply will > contain more detailed instructions. > > Questions or comments? Please send them to the Datsun-roadsters > mailing list administrator at datsun-roadsters-owner at autox.team.net. > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/pat at hornesystemstx.com > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From d_kroninger at hotmail.com Tue Aug 10 11:00:05 2010 From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 12:00:05 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OK Kids, can we get back on topic Message-ID: Seriously. Enough. From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com Tue Aug 10 11:21:09 2010 From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 10:21:09 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Forlorn Roadster Message-ID: While driving through downtown Spokane, WA at about 6:30 am last Sunday I saw a tall windshield 2000 with top down parked on the street pretty much all by itself. It had been raining most of the night. Kind of a sad sight. I'm sure it didn't belong to anyone of this list - we care too much about our cars to do something like that - but if it did..."Dude, at least put the top up if you're gonna leave it parked downtown all night." From notoptoy at live.com Tue Aug 10 11:23:49 2010 From: notoptoy at live.com (Tom Lorick) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 13:23:49 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] E-bay offering In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 1) I noticed the pricing for shipping, it is an e-bay violation complain there. I did. 2) I have never before seen the vitriolic two or three way hate going on with the list as it is here, what gives? 3) Classicautorecycler - chill, why do you want to tick off the very people you are trying to sell too? 4) Let's all get along, if you don't want to pay someone's prices or be bombarded by their e-mail repeats, don't and ignore them. I'm sure that the few seconds it takes to ignore/delete things you don't like is much easier than the hassle and negativity generated over this issue on a respected, friendly forum. Now, hopefully, back to our regularly unscheduled programming! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 12:36 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 4, Issue 281 Send Datsun-roadsters mailing list submissions to datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at datsun-roadsters-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Datsun-roadsters digest..." From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com Tue Aug 10 11:39:40 2010 From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 10:39:40 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Welcome to the "Datsun-roadsters" mailing list In-Reply-To: <4C618022.6070508@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: We've been pretty lucky on this List in not having ranters and profanity users. All of that is completely unnecessary. This is supposed to be a fun and informative site, not a site for open hostility. I've been a part of this internet community for a long time and am very disappointed in this current thread. While I do not speak for the List or anyone on it other than myself, I hold these truths to be self-evident: Insulting and offending prospective purchasers isn't a good way to drum up more sales. We usually sign our posts with at least our name, maybe our city, maybe our car(s). It makes it a bit more personal that way and people are less likely to say something that they might later regret. Profanity has no place on this site. I can understand an exception in the name of humor but when used in a hostile or threatening manner it is completely inappropriate. I've known Craig for years and he is a good guy. Eric has also established himself on this List. Their credibility is much stronger than any antagonistic profanity user. That's a fact. Just my two cents. Happy Roadstering, Greg SRL31100494 Spokane, WA On 8/10/10 9:36 AM, "Eddie" wrote: > "There are several centuries of combined experience and love for our > cars, so you should be able to understand our hesitation with > non-traditional eBay/seller practices." > > I'd say there are several centuries of entitlement, and > self-righteousness when it comes to the Datsun Roadster. > > > > "We tend to try to protect our own." > > HAhahahahaaha. No, not really. > > > > "Enjoy, not every venue on the internet is a capital enterprise, try > 311s.org 'for sale' section however." > > There's nothing wrong with someone making it known they have parts for > sale. NO ONE would have an issue if he was listing fendors for say, > $25. The problem some have is they think his prices are too high. But > if he was "fire saleing" everything, many of the people who complain > would be ALL FOR his listing, and they'd be touting what a great deal > the stuff is. > > So let's cut the bullshit. The problem some have isn't with his > listings, it's the PRICES he's asking. And that's because they are > cheap asses with a sense of entitlement to Raodster parts... > > > > >> Eric G > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gsm at gregorysmorrison.co> m From tputland at charter.net Tue Aug 10 12:08:30 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:08:30 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Spotted Message-ID: <20100810140830.P6PFY.4454366.root@mp15> Last Saturday afternoon in Duluth, MN by my youngest daughter, a yellow Roadster. She does not know enough about these cars to tell me a year, etc, but she did spot one. Any one on this list? From boakes at gmail.com Tue Aug 10 13:38:40 2010 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 14:38:40 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 240z wheels on a roadster Message-ID: <7588B06E-E851-4C7E-A264-B84E6A9C971D@gmail.com> Sorry in advance, but, I have a chance to pick up a great deal on some Koenig Rewind (minilite copies) with 225/50/15s Will they fit? Thanks Bill From datsunspl at hotmail.com Tue Aug 10 14:53:55 2010 From: datsunspl at hotmail.com (Paul Reed) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 13:53:55 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Inner Shift Boot Message-ID: The inner shift boot for my 1968 1600 has rotted away, and it seems to be difficult to find a stock replacement. Before I start hacking into the tunnel to make way for a 2000 inner shift boot, I thought I would ask if anyone on the List knows if the stock 1600 inner boots are still available anywhere? Thanks, Paul From dave at eastcoastroadster.com Tue Aug 10 17:02:56 2010 From: dave at eastcoastroadster.com (dave) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 19:02:56 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Welcome to the "Datsun-roadsters" mailing list In-Reply-To: <945bc829-2cdd-4c87-9de3-1d83702dfff3@blur> Message-ID: <3BB32ED9CD7F4277872AB465ECE34D43@delled48909442> It has been quiet lately, but I must say, Slick move, posting the password to the account. I'll see if Ignore works in the digest version. Dave -----Original Message----- From: classicautorecycling at yahoo.com [mailto:classicautorecycling at yahoo.com] Why is there so much hate here on this message board? Why towards someone with parts for sale? Did I bring your daughter home too late last night? You haters know who you are and so does everyone else on here. Toomuch free time on your hands!?!? If you don't want. or need parts for your Roadster, then erase my posts. If you have nothing better to do with your life, then please continue to hate. Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net Welcome to the Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net mailing list! To post to this list, send your email to: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net General information about the mailing list is at: http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/classicautorecycling% 4 0yahoo.com You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: Datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. It is: BAXTER1 Normally, Mailman will remind you of your autox.team.net mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Tue Aug 10 19:19:08 2010 From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] In case you ever wondered -NRR Message-ID: <682213.80368.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> On the lighter side...... NRR ? and that, my friend, is: ? "Why the chicken crossed the road"? ? [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 5CA1A6F34A92426BAB458D7FD597A528.jpg] From jake7140 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 10 19:42:31 2010 From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun dealer signs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <803899.61050.qm@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Oh man..... two of us NEEEEEED these: http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/clt/1875645283.html Steve Steve's racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society www.elrss.com From kemp_l at hotmail.com Tue Aug 10 20:06:22 2010 From: kemp_l at hotmail.com (Kemp LaMunyon Sr.) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 19:06:22 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Pictures on the forum Message-ID: I just got a couple of pics of my roadster up on the 311s forums. It is in the album section under Kemp_l. Not much to look at yet but just you wait..heheheheheh... Thanks Kemp 509-525-9871 Yahoo IM-treasure_55 Roll up your sleeves, Put your signs on and get active. United We Stand / Divided We Fall. I prefer to stand. From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net Tue Aug 10 20:15:31 2010 From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 20:15:31 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [Roadsters] 240z wheels on a roadster Message-ID: <1176147.1281492932296.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Depends on the offset/backspace. I have a set of Koenigs with 0 offset, and that is not the right fit for the roadster. Check the vendors, but I think Les and Gerardo use a +15 offset? Other comments? Dewey -----Original Message----- >From: Bill Oakes >Sent: Aug 10, 2010 1:38 PM >To: Roadster List >Subject: [Roadsters] 240z wheels on a roadster > >Sorry in advance, but, I have a chance to pick up a great deal on some Koenig >Rewind (minilite copies) with 225/50/15s > >Will they fit? > >Thanks >Bill >________________________________________ >Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $16.00 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/hahlbohmd at earthlink.net From classicautorecycling at yahoo.com Tue Aug 10 21:05:45 2010 From: classicautorecycling at yahoo.com (classicautorecycling at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 23:05:45 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: 1966 SPL311 parting out of NY References: <795641.49080.qm@web120102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: N W To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" Sent: Fri, Jul 2, 2010 06:43:10 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Roadsters] 1966 SPL311 parting out of NY Parts for sale Alternator Distributor Radiator Radiator aupport Radiator hoses top and bottom Overflow tank Airbox with filter Intake with su carbs Fuel pump Fuel sending unit Filler neck with breather hose Gas tank Gas tank straps J hooks Sending unit trunk cover Center console Glove box Glove box door Glove box door lock Tachometer Fuel gauge Amp gauge Water temp gauge Oil pressure gauge Clock Dash Switches-- Lights, fog, wiper, heat Choke cable Speedometer cable sheath Tach cable Ignition with key Dimmer Driver Seat Pass. Seat Steering wheel Horn button 14" steel wheels Wiper arms Wiper motor Water pump Thermostat Thermostat housing Fan Fan pulley Hardtop Hood Doors Door Windows Quarter windows Quarter window holder driver Quarter window pivots driver Quarter window frame driver Window regulators Roll up handles Door handles outside Door handles inside Door pull handles Door locks Door shut latch Bodyside door shut latch Door hinges Front grille Vent grille Trunk Trunk garnish Fenders Trunk open hold bars Seat belts Headlights Headlight buckets Front directionals and bezels Tail light housings and bezels Antenna Door sill plates Rocker sill plates Inside rocker trim 6 pieces Engine internals 4 speed transmission Driveshaft Header In.ex. Gasket Starter motor Check out pics @ picasaweb.google.com/101278287028344322083 I'm happy to answer any questions. Thanks, Patrick ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/classicautorecycling at y ahoo.com From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com Tue Aug 10 21:12:24 2010 From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 20:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 240z wheels on a roadster In-Reply-To: <1176147.1281492932296.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <1176147.1281492932296.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <964418.22901.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hi everyone i have those Koenig rims, 15 x 7, 0 offset, with 205 50 15 Toyo R888s. there is some rubbing on my rolled rear fenders. the fronts rub a little on the comp sway bar. my 15 x 6, 0 offset "swatiska" 280ZX turbo rims with the same size tires (Azenis) don't rub. s 675MIZU ________________________________ From: Dewey Hahlbohm To: Bill Oakes ; Roadster List Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 7:15:31 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 240z wheels on a roadster Depends on the offset/backspace. I have a set of Koenigs with 0 offset, and that is not the right fit for the roadster. Check the vendors, but I think Les and Gerardo use a +15 offset? Other comments? Dewey -----Original Message----- >From: Bill Oakes >Sent: Aug 10, 2010 1:38 PM >To: Roadster List >Subject: [Roadsters] 240z wheels on a roadster > >Sorry in advance, but, I have a chance to pick up a great deal on some Koenig >Rewind (minilite copies) with 225/50/15s > >Will they fit? > >Thanks >Bill >________________________________________ >Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $16.00 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/hahlbohmd at earthlink.net ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com From roadsterx at hotmail.com Tue Aug 10 21:20:59 2010 From: roadsterx at hotmail.com (michael poorboy) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 03:20:59 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] 240z wheels on a roadster In-Reply-To: <7588B06E-E851-4C7E-A264-B84E6A9C971D@gmail.com> References: <7588B06E-E851-4C7E-A264-B84E6A9C971D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Bill, I have the Rewinds on my car, but it has Japco fenders on it. You would have to work the fenders pretty good to get them to work with the 225's. Mike > From: boakes at gmail.com > Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 14:38:40 -0500 > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] 240z wheels on a roadster > > Sorry in advance, but, I have a chance to pick up a great deal on some Koenig > Rewind (minilite copies) with 225/50/15s > > Will they fit? > > Thanks > Bill > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadsterx at hotmail.com From roadsterx at hotmail.com Tue Aug 10 21:22:24 2010 From: roadsterx at hotmail.com (michael poorboy) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 03:22:24 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Forlorn Roadster In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Greg, Was it black ? I have seen a black car running around in Spokane lately. Mike > Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 10:21:09 -0700 > From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Forlorn Roadster > > While driving through downtown Spokane, WA at about 6:30 am last Sunday I > saw a tall windshield 2000 with top down parked on the street pretty much > all by itself. It had been raining most of the night. Kind of a sad sight. > I'm sure it didn't belong to anyone of this list - we care too much about > our cars to do something like that - but if it did..."Dude, at least put the > top up if you're gonna leave it parked downtown all night." > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadsterx at hotmail.com From aultgc at att.net Tue Aug 10 21:57:20 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 22:57:20 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] classicautorecycling References: <1926364831.874882.1281441220918.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <04436436CFDD4E43AD6953834B5B17E9@gaxp1> Craig, I'm with you, Craig. The list is intended to be a discussion group, not a commercial platform. Don't sweat the guy. Just use your E-mail platform's tools and "Block Sender". That's what I have done. He can post, rant, do whatever he wants, and I won't see it. If everyone on the list does that, he will posting into a vacuum. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] classicautorecycling >I sent this individual the following note: > > I think folks are just tired of the weekly postings- you are not supposed > to post commercial stuff more than once a month on the list > > This is his reply: > > "Too bad" > > so looks like we'll probably be bombarded with his posts for as long as he > is on the list, doesn't seem to have much respect for the rules. > > Craig > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From jklingman at stny.rr.com Tue Aug 10 23:11:39 2010 From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 01:11:39 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] classicautorecycling solution Message-ID: <64C33F7EC22243099CE5E5D888A95FE3@yourhryuc9xa71> We have blocked the email address. Just don't have time for stress. If I should want to know what he is currently selling, I can unblock it. Gloria and John Klingman, '68 2000, a.k.a Spike Sidney, NY From AlanW at dprinc.com Tue Aug 10 23:51:44 2010 From: AlanW at dprinc.com (Alan Watt) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 22:51:44 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Valve Adjustment Parts Help Message-ID: <4EDB5C49AFCBCE43A501968FB08956B63994F47D4D@EXCHANGE07.dprinc.com> I was installing the rocker assembly tonight and attempting to adjust the valve lash and discovered the number 1 exhaust valve adjustment stud was stripped. The threads on the rocker arm are good. Does anyone know where to get a replacement? Any chance a auto parts store would stock such an item? The threads appear to be a 3/8 x 24. Thanks, Alan Portland, OR 1967 SPL311 From alvingogi at gmail.com Wed Aug 11 00:04:25 2010 From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 23:04:25 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Nissan Displays 6 Z Racers at Rolex Monterey Motorsports Reunion! Message-ID: Nissan Displays 6 Z Racers at Rolex Monterey Motorsports Reunion! Details, full press release here: http://www.zcarblog.com/ Don't miss this event it is THIS weekend, August 12-15 at Laguna Seca. See you there! From aultgc at att.net Wed Aug 11 00:11:22 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 01:11:22 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] classicautorecycling solution References: <64C33F7EC22243099CE5E5D888A95FE3@yourhryuc9xa71> Message-ID: <33C737A897B64964BE6305353CE92225@gaxp1> John, That's my solution! Right on! Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Klingman" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 12:11 AM Subject: [Roadsters] classicautorecycling solution > We have blocked the email address. Just don't have time for stress. If I > should want to know what he is currently selling, I can unblock it. > Gloria and John Klingman, '68 2000, a.k.a Spike > Sidney, NY > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From eddietude at socal.rr.com Wed Aug 11 00:14:33 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 23:14:33 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] classicautorecycling solution In-Reply-To: <64C33F7EC22243099CE5E5D888A95FE3@yourhryuc9xa71> References: <64C33F7EC22243099CE5E5D888A95FE3@yourhryuc9xa71> Message-ID: <4C623FC9.1020602@socal.rr.com> What a bunch of drama queens... "the stress"??? WTF???? He posts he has parts.. big deal. If you don't want them, don't buy them! Again, if the guy was selling the stuff cheap, you'd all be praising him. The issue isn't the parts, it's the prices... UGH. No wonder so many Datsun Roadster owners don't want anything to do with the "roadster Community". Too much BS and fabricated drama over nothing... Eddie John Klingman wrote: > We have blocked the email address. Just don't have time for stress. If I > should want to know what he is currently selling, I can unblock it. > Gloria and John Klingman, '68 2000, a.k.a Spike > Sidney, NY > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From alvingogi at gmail.com Wed Aug 11 00:18:00 2010 From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 23:18:00 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Nissan Displays 6 Z Racers at Rolex Monterey Motorsports Reunion! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nissan Displays 6 Z Racers at Rolex Monterey Motorsports Reunion! Details, full press release here: http://www.zcarblog.com/ Don't miss this event it is THIS weekend, August 12-15 at Laguna Seca. See you there! From eddietude at socal.rr.com Wed Aug 11 00:24:03 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 23:24:03 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Valve Adjustment Parts Help In-Reply-To: <4EDB5C49AFCBCE43A501968FB08956B63994F47D4D@EXCHANGE07.dprinc.com> References: <4EDB5C49AFCBCE43A501968FB08956B63994F47D4D@EXCHANGE07.dprinc.com> Message-ID: <4C624203.5080107@socal.rr.com> I'll bet the guy everyone wants to block has one for sale... Sorry, I couldn't resist... the irony was too funny.... Eddie Alan Watt wrote: > I was installing the rocker assembly tonight and attempting to adjust the > valve lash and discovered the number 1 exhaust valve adjustment stud was > stripped. The threads on the rocker arm are good. Does anyone know where to > get a replacement? Any chance a auto parts store would stock such an item? > > The threads appear to be a 3/8 x 24. > > Thanks, > Alan > Portland, OR > 1967 SPL311 > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From keithddowning at yahoo.com Wed Aug 11 02:19:14 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 01:19:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] On BAT Message-ID: <522702.94701.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Two Roadsters on the masthead of BringATrailer.com. From boakes at gmail.com Wed Aug 11 04:53:31 2010 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 05:53:31 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 240z wheels on a roadster In-Reply-To: References: <7588B06E-E851-4C7E-A264-B84E6A9C971D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks to everyone, both on the list and off-list. Tried them on the roadster last night and you're right, they fit, but they rub in the rear. Looks like they'll be my rain tires on the Z for now. Maybe play with the fenders AFTER I get the roadster running. It's getting closer. -bill '68 2000 Solex Libertyville, IL On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 10:20 PM, michael poorboy wrote: > Hi Bill, > I have the Rewinds on my car, but it has Japco fenders on it. You would have > to work the fenders pretty good to get them > to work with the 225's. > > Mike > >> From: boakes at gmail.com >> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 14:38:40 -0500 >> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Subject: [Roadsters] 240z wheels on a roadster >> >> Sorry in advance, but, I have a chance to pick up a great deal on some >> Koenig >> Rewind (minilite copies) with 225/50/15s >> >> Will they fit? >> >> Thanks >> Bill >> ________________________________________ >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadsterx at hotmail.com > -- Bill Oakes bill at billoakes.com http://billoakes.com 312-607-1667 404 Broadway Libertyville, IL 60048 From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Wed Aug 11 07:47:43 2010 From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 06:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Petty infighting In-Reply-To: <4C623FC9.1020602@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <665791.32842.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I lurk. I don't see any reason for a forum such as this to have any petty infighting. But I have been on many such lists, and it crops up from time to time. It is ALWAYS the result of two things: 1. The lack of being able to see and understand each other as we speak (or conversely a lack of communications skills - either expression or comprehension) 2. Thin skinned people (or conversely petty people who have nothing better to do than make trouble where none exists.) So lighten up, leave the insults at the door and talk roadsters. JimG NJ 69 2K slipping back into lurk mode..... From eddietude at socal.rr.com Wed Aug 11 09:31:26 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 08:31:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Valve Train Pieces and Irony... In-Reply-To: <665791.32842.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <665791.32842.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C62C24E.6080006@socal.rr.com> It would seem that irony has entered the forum. Apparently the guy who everyone wanted blocked was kicked off the list... right after getting the email that Alan needed a valve part... which incidentally, that guy has. He asked that I post it that he has it. So, just forwarding the message, if you still need that part, the guy everyone wanted booted has it... Sorry, I just think that's hysterical..... Eddie From eddietude at socal.rr.com Wed Aug 11 09:43:12 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 08:43:12 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Petty infighting In-Reply-To: <665791.32842.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <665791.32842.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C62C510.1010702@socal.rr.com> Jim, You forgot a few other reasons. 3) Forum Subject Gods. In every forum, there are those who think they are the end all, be all know it all about the subject of the forum. Usually these pathetic people have nothing else going on in their lives, and their entire existence or "being" is wrapped up in that one subject. In this case, the subject being "Datsun Roadsters". 4) Sense of Entitlement. Many times, this is coupled with #3. As a "expert" these people think they should get everything for free, or at a "discount" over others. Like somehow their "advanced knowledge" entitles them to things over other roadster owners. As for "talking roadsters".... again, someone posting they have parts for sale IS talking roadsters. It's letting the community know he has parts for sale. To further the irony, right after a select few here got their panties in a bunch, someone posted they needed a specific part. Yet the very person who HAS what they need has been unceremoniously booted from the list, thus doing a disservice to the entire community. Someone show me the logic in that... Again, let's be real and honest. The issue wasn't his posting the parts. It was the prices. IF he'd posted stuff cheap, those who got upset wouldn't care in the least. They got upset because they didn't like his prices... again, sense of entitlement... Not stirring up trouble, just keeping it REAL. Eddie Jim Gammon wrote: > I lurk. > > I don't see any reason for a forum such as this to have any petty infighting. > But I have been on many such lists, and it crops up from time to time. > > It is ALWAYS the result of two things: > > 1. The lack of being able to see and understand each other as we speak (or > conversely a lack of communications skills - either expression or > comprehension) > > 2. Thin skinned people (or conversely petty people who have nothing better to > do than make trouble where none exists.) > > So lighten up, leave the insults at the door and talk roadsters. > > JimG NJ 69 2K > slipping back into lurk mode..... > > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From datrock at centurytel.net Wed Aug 11 10:51:29 2010 From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 09:51:29 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Valve Train Pieces and Irony... In-Reply-To: <4C62C24E.6080006@socal.rr.com> References: <665791.32842.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4C62C24E.6080006@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <4C62D511.1090709@centurytel.net> So did you hook Alan up with the part or just pass the info on to everyone else, I'm curious since I live 90 miles south of Alan and have what he needs, but I figured he probably has the part already coming his way... Bill From eddietude at socal.rr.com Wed Aug 11 11:01:35 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:01:35 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Valve Train Pieces and Irony... In-Reply-To: <4C62D511.1090709@centurytel.net> References: <665791.32842.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4C62C24E.6080006@socal.rr.com> <4C62D511.1090709@centurytel.net> Message-ID: <4C62D76F.70104@socal.rr.com> Just passing the info on.... Bill Cole wrote: > So did you hook Alan up with the part or just pass the info on to > everyone else, I'm curious since I live 90 miles south of Alan and > have what he needs, but I figured he probably has the part already > coming his way... Bill From dooger at wildblue.net Wed Aug 11 11:07:01 2010 From: dooger at wildblue.net (Wes Jones) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 13:07:01 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] classicautorecycling solution In-Reply-To: <4C623FC9.1020602@socal.rr.com> References: <64C33F7EC22243099CE5E5D888A95FE3@yourhryuc9xa71> <4C623FC9.1020602@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Gold star! On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 02:14:33 -0400, Eddie wrote: > What a bunch of drama queens... > > "the stress"??? WTF???? > > He posts he has parts.. big deal. > > If you don't want them, don't buy them! Again, if the guy was selling > the stuff cheap, you'd all be praising him. The issue isn't the parts, > it's the prices... > > UGH. No wonder so many Datsun Roadster owners don't want anything to do > with the "roadster Community". Too much BS and fabricated drama over > nothing... Eddie > > John Klingman wrote: >> We have blocked the email address. Just don't have time for stress. If >> I >> should want to know what he is currently selling, I can unblock it. >> Gloria and John Klingman, '68 2000, a.k.a Spike >> Sidney, NY >> ________________________________________ >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/dooger at wildblue.net -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Wed Aug 11 11:47:56 2010 From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:47:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Petty infighting In-Reply-To: <4C62C510.1010702@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <82004.46757.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I'm sure that there are even more specifics, I just suggest people calm down. I'm avoiding getting into, or creating more friction. Jim --- On Wed, 8/11/10, Eddie wrote: From: Eddie Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Petty infighting To: "Jim Gammon" Cc: "Datsun roadster" Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 11:43 AM Jim, You forgot a few other reasons. 3) Forum Subject Gods. In every forum, there are those who think they are the end all, be all know it all about the subject of the forum. Usually these pathetic people have nothing else going on in their lives, and their entire existence or "being" is wrapped up in that one subject. In this case, the subject being "Datsun Roadsters". 4) Sense of Entitlement. Many times, this is coupled with #3. As a "expert" these people think they should get everything for free, or at a "discount" over others. Like somehow their "advanced knowledge" entitles them to things over other roadster owners. As for "talking roadsters".... again, someone posting they have parts for sale IS talking roadsters. It's letting the community know he has parts for sale. To further the irony, right after a select few here got their panties in a bunch, someone posted they needed a specific part. Yet the very person who HAS what they need has been unceremoniously booted from the list, thus doing a disservice to the entire community. Someone show me the logic in that... Again, let's be real and honest. The issue wasn't his posting the parts. It was the prices. IF he'd posted stuff cheap, those who got upset wouldn't care in the least. They got upset because they didn't like his prices... again, sense of entitlement... Not stirring up trouble, just keeping it REAL. Eddie Jim Gammon wrote: > I lurk. > I don't see any reason for a forum such as this to have any petty infighting. > But I have been on many such lists, and it crops up from time to time. > It is ALWAYS the result of two things: > 1. The lack of being able to see and understand each other as we speak (or > conversely a lack of communications skills - either expression or > comprehension) > 2. Thin skinned people (or conversely petty people who have nothing better to > do than make trouble where none exists.) > So lighten up, leave the insults at the door and talk roadsters. > JimG NJ 69 2K > slipping back into lurk mode..... > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com > > From tputland at charter.net Wed Aug 11 12:17:36 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:17:36 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Valve Train Pieces and Irony... In-Reply-To: <4C62D511.1090709@centurytel.net> Message-ID: <20100811141736.R0NU6.7469049.root@mp11> I've got that part as well. And I would give it away for the cost of shipping. Isn't that hysterical? Tim ---- Bill Cole wrote: ============= So did you hook Alan up with the part or just pass the info on to everyone else, I'm curious since I live 90 miles south of Alan and have what he needs, but I figured he probably has the part already coming his way... Bill ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From AlanW at dprinc.com Wed Aug 11 12:48:44 2010 From: AlanW at dprinc.com (Alan Watt) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:48:44 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Valve Adjustment Parts Help In-Reply-To: <4EDB5C49AFCBCE43A501968FB08956B63994F47D4D@EXCHANGE07.dprinc.com> References: <4EDB5C49AFCBCE43A501968FB08956B63994F47D4D@EXCHANGE07.dprinc.com> Message-ID: <4EDB5C49AFCBCE43A501968FB08956B63994F48377@EXCHANGE07.dprinc.com> Thanks everyone for all the replies. A fellow roadster owner is sending me a couple for a nominal fee. This email list group is a life saver! - Alan Portland, OR 1967 SPL311 From stl at adnc.com Wed Aug 11 13:09:33 2010 From: stl at adnc.com (stl at adnc.com) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 12:09:33 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster Community Message-ID: <20100811120933.16961xzk0m5q9p4d@webmail.americanis.net> Having followed this List for about 10 years, and occasionally, very occasionally, posting to it, I have seen many owners whose posts have helped me on solutions to the myriad issues that can pop up on a car that has been out of production for 40 years. To all of you who have taken the time to share your experiences, knowledge and enthusiasm for these cars, I have learned from, and enjoyed your posts ... from the strictly technical to the purely "I had a great drive/race/adventure, let me tell you about it", and all the myriad Roadster subjects in between ... Thank You. That is the List that I try to read. As to the occasional flames, insults, and inartfull profanity that from time to time appears on the List, I chalk those up to inbreeding, bottle feeding, or just plain "cussidness", and hit Delete. %^) Steve Landuyt '69 2000 San Diego ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From tputland at charter.net Wed Aug 11 13:28:13 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 12:28:13 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun dealer signs In-Reply-To: <803899.61050.qm@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20100811152813.8MP9O.7472142.root@mp11> Already sold and paid for. Someone bought all four from the guy. Other wise I would have gone up there tomorrow to get the two Datsun signs. Think they were cheap enough? I hope to get ahold of the buyer as he repairs Saabs and may not care to keep the Datsun signs. Maybe he will sell them to me??? Tim ---- Steve Jacobson wrote: ============= Oh man..... two of us NEEEEEED these: http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/clt/1875645283.html Steve Steve's racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society www.elrss.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From lmflaming at comcast.net Wed Aug 11 14:03:26 2010 From: lmflaming at comcast.net (lmflaming at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 20:03:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun dealer signs In-Reply-To: <20100811152813.8MP9O.7472142.root@mp11> Message-ID: <782855143.1021594.1281557006834.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> To All I have noticed onB both of the 66's that I have bought that there is no switch on the brake pedal to make the brake light come on like on the 69 and 70 I have. Is there supposed to be one? Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "Steve Jacobson" , datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 1:28:13 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun dealer signs Already sold and paid for. Someone bought all four from the guy. Other wise I would have gone up there tomorrow to get the two Datsun signs. Think they were cheap enough? I hope to get ahold of the buyer as he repairs Saabs and may not care to keep the Datsun signs. Maybe he will sell them to me??? Tim ---- Steve Jacobson wrote: ============= Oh man..... two of us NEEEEEED these: http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/clt/1875645283.html Steve Steve's racing web site B B B www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society B B B www.elrss.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation B $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation B $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/lmflaming at comcast.net From ronnie.day at gmail.com Wed Aug 11 14:06:12 2010 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:06:12 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun dealer signs In-Reply-To: <20100811152813.8MP9O.7472142.root@mp11> References: <803899.61050.qm@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100811152813.8MP9O.7472142.root@mp11> Message-ID: > Tim > Already sold and paid for. Someone bought all four from the guy. Other wise I would have gone up there tomorrow to get the two Datsun signs. Think they were cheap enough? I hope to get ahold of the buyer as he repairs Saabs and may not care to keep the Datsun signs. Maybe he will sell them to me??? > Several years ago I organized a roadster group for the Fredericksburg Car Show in July and found a guy whose mom had a "Datsun Service" flouescent sign in her barn. Since I needed a banner to hang on a tent I passed. Now that I'm getting ready to build a shop, I need to reconnect with the guy and find out if it's still available. Ron From jake7140 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 11 14:19:43 2010 From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 13:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun dealer signs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <249892.14047.qm@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Real dealership signs are always cool, lighted is best! I think of all the mid to late 60's signs I couldn't have cuz they were too big, and my parents were nowhere close to being car people. We were able to nab some paper banners for Corvette, Corvair and other stuff to wallpaper the "hangout" which was the back room of an old chicken coop on the farm next door. They went well with the blacklight and band posters. Steve Steve's racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society www.elrss.com --- On Wed, 8/11/10, Ronnie Day wrote: From: Ronnie Day Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun dealer signs To: "Tim" Cc: "Steve Jacobson" , datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 3:06 PM > Tim > Already sold and paid for. Someone bought all four from the guy. Other wise I would have gone up there tomorrow to get the two Datsun signs. Think they were cheap enough? I hope to get ahold of the buyer as he repairs Saabs and may not care to keep the Datsun signs. Maybe he will sell them to me??? > Several years ago I organized a roadster group for the Fredericksburg Car Show in July and found a guy whose mom had a "Datsun Service" flouescent sign in her barn. Since I needed a banner to hang on a tent I passed. Now that I'm getting ready to build a shop, I need to reconnect with the guy and find out if it's still available. Ron From jake7140 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 11 14:32:20 2010 From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 13:32:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Koenigs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <730152.99511.qm@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sorry, no. They will only fit on cars whose owner's name is Steve. Steve Steve's racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society www.elrss.com Message: 2 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 14:38:40 -0500 From: Bill Oakes Subject: [Roadsters] 240z wheels on a roadster To: Roadster List Message-ID: <7588B06E-E851-4C7E-A264-B84E6A9C971D at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sorry in advance, but, I have a chance to pick up a great deal on some Koenig Rewind (minilite copies) with 225/50/15s Will they fit? Thanks Bill From tpsmithstl at yahoo.com Wed Aug 11 14:44:12 2010 From: tpsmithstl at yahoo.com (Perry Smith) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 13:44:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster Community In-Reply-To: <20100811120933.16961xzk0m5q9p4d@webmail.americanis.net> References: <20100811120933.16961xzk0m5q9p4d@webmail.americanis.net> Message-ID: <262102.34733.qm@web50008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Well put, Steve - well put! Perry Smith '69 2000 St. Louis ________________________________ From: "stl at adnc.com" To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, August 11, 2010 2:09:33 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster Community Having followed this List for about 10 years, and occasionally, very occasionally, posting to it, I have seen many owners whose posts have helped me on solutions to the myriad issues that can pop up on a car that has been out of production for 40 years. To all of you who have taken the time to share your experiences, knowledge and enthusiasm for these cars, I have learned from, and enjoyed your posts ... from the strictly technical to the purely "I had a great drive/race/adventure, let me tell you about it", and all the myriad Roadster subjects in between ... Thank You. That is the List that I try to read. As to the occasional flames, insults, and inartfull profanity that from time to time appears on the List, I chalk those up to inbreeding, bottle feeding, or just plain "cussidness", and hit Delete. %^) Steve Landuyt '69 2000 San Diego ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tpsmithstl at yahoo.com From sandhoff at csus.edu Wed Aug 11 14:55:31 2010 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 13:55:31 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Brake light switch (was: Datsun dealer signs) In-Reply-To: <782855143.1021594.1281557006834.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <20100811152813.8MP9O.7472142.root@mp11> Message-ID: <4C62ABD3.16633.64FFA7D@localhost> > I have noticed onB both of the 66's that I have bought that there is no > switch on the brake pedal to make the brake light come on like on the > 69 and 70 I have. Is there supposed to be one? Do the brake lights work? :-) The earlier cars use a pressure switch that activates from actual fluid pressure, and is plumbed in under the hood. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From boakes at gmail.com Wed Aug 11 15:21:37 2010 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 16:21:37 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Koenigs In-Reply-To: <730152.99511.qm@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <730152.99511.qm@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I must have found those rare "Bill" wheels, that do fit my Z, which will be at Road America this weekend. On Aug 11, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Steve Jacobson wrote: > Sorry, no. They will only fit on cars whose owner's name is Steve. > > Steve > > Steve's racing web site > www.NoNameRacing.com > Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society > www.elrss.com > > > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 14:38:40 -0500 > From: Bill Oakes > Subject: [Roadsters] 240z wheels on a roadster > To: Roadster List > Message-ID: <7588B06E-E851-4C7E-A264-B84E6A9C971D at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Sorry in advance, but, I have a chance to pick up a great deal on some Koenig > Rewind (minilite copies) with 225/50/15s > > Will they fit? > > Thanks > Bill > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/boakes at gmail.com From lmflaming at comcast.net Wed Aug 11 16:32:11 2010 From: lmflaming at comcast.net (lmflaming at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 22:32:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Brake light switch (was: Datsun dealer signs) In-Reply-To: <4C62ABD3.16633.64FFA7D@localhost> Message-ID: <1651286761.1030024.1281565931372.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Thank you for the info on the brakes. Sorry everyoneB for changing the topic. I'll try to do better next time. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "John F Sandhoff" To: lmflaming at comcast.net Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 2:55:31 PM Subject: Re: Brake light switch (was: Datsun dealer signs) > I have noticed onB B both of the 66's that I have bought that there is no > switch on the brake pedal to make the brake light come on like on the > 69 and 70 I have. Is there supposed to be one? Do the brake lights work? :-) The earlier cars use a pressure switch that activates from actual fluid pressure, and is plumbed in under the hood. -- John B B B John F Sandhoff B sandhoff at csus.edu B Sacramento, CA From primodonna1 at juno.com Wed Aug 11 17:24:30 2010 From: primodonna1 at juno.com (primodonna1 at juno.com) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 23:24:30 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] Petty infighting Message-ID: <20100811.192430.11794.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> Well Mr. Eddietude, Seems that you have skill in stirring up trouble. You were kicked off of the 311s forum for creating trouble. Then you sneaked in as 311fan and seem to have restrained yourself somewhat. It is easy to see why you have affinity for the guy that is posting parts for sale. You flogged and flogged your junk cars and parts on 311s under both of your identities, then on ebay and also on Craigs list over and over again. You berated people for giving you lowball offers for your junk and said that you knew what the value was. You even told people on ebay what an expert you were on junk parts value. Based on your postings, you avoid the regular vendors and blast them for high prices. For your information, the lower a-arm spindle shafts that you arranged to have built are of questionable quality. Within the last month a brand new one from your supplier was received and the threaded end had fallen off of the main shaft. Wonder if one of your installed ones will fall apart? Hang on tight! It is time that you crawled back under your rock or your pile of junk parts. PD ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Eddie Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Petty infighting Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 08:43:12 -0700 Jim, You forgot a few other reasons. 3) Forum Subject Gods. In every forum, there are those who think they are the end all, be all know it all about the subject of the forum. Usually these pathetic people have nothing else going on in their lives, and their entire existence or "being" is wrapped up in that one subject. In this case, the subject being "Datsun Roadsters". 4) Sense of Entitlement. Many times, this is coupled with #3. As a "expert" these people think they should get everything for free, or at a "discount" over others. Like somehow their "advanced knowledge" entitles them to things over other roadster owners. As for "talking roadsters".... again, someone posting they have parts for sale IS talking roadsters. It's letting the community know he has parts for sale. To further the irony, right after a select few here got their panties in a bunch, someone posted they needed a specific part. Yet the very person who HAS what they need has been unceremoniously booted from the list, thus doing a disservice to the entire community. Someone show me the logic in that... Again, let's be real and honest. The issue wasn't his posting the parts. It was the prices. IF he'd posted stuff cheap, those who got upset wouldn't care in the least. They got upset because they didn't like his prices... again, sense of entitlement... Not stirring up trouble, just keeping it REAL. Eddie ____________________________________________________________ Online Auction Discounts One simple trick to save up to 95% off of electronics. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4c63318ed77896f6d4ast02vuc From gcallahan at prodigy.net Wed Aug 11 18:15:36 2010 From: gcallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:15:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Forlorn Roadster In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <780555.48600.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Maybe it was stolen and taken for a joy ride, then left there in the rain. Just one possibility. Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 --- On Tue, 8/10/10, Gregory S. Morrison wrote: From: Gregory S. Morrison Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Forlorn Roadster To: "Roadster List" Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 10:21 AM While driving through downtown Spokane, WA at about 6:30 am last Sunday I saw a tall windshield 2000 with top down parked on the street pretty much all by itself. It had been raining most of the night. Kind of a sad sight. I'm sure it didn't belong to anyone of this list - we care too much about our cars to do something like that - but if it did..."Dude, at least put the top up if you're gonna leave it parked downtown all night." ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcallahan at prodigy.net From ljordan704 at netscape.net Wed Aug 11 18:32:32 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 20:32:32 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Valve Train Pieces and Irony... In-Reply-To: <4C62C24E.6080006@socal.rr.com> References: <665791.32842.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4C62C24E.6080006@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <8CD07CCFC95D66D-15AC-6222@webmail-m005.sysops.aol.com> Let's be accurate, I don't want him booted. I see no big deal with listing parts once a week or sooner if the list changes. You just look at the sender or the Subject line marked "Parts for sale" and then if you don't want to see a list of parts, you skip that post. Seems simple to me and rather scary if guys can't figure that out. In my experience repetition is neccessary because many don't read the List often or, don't read well period. So repeating is fine for the majority who are not regulars.Hey parts are getting scarce and I personally want to scare anyone off. As for perhaps the "tone" of the seller, well perhaps he doesn't understand what a refined bunch this is...so we are less tolerant of the internet's usual rude behavior. OK, minus 1 for that. Otherwise the address can be individually blocked I believe. And I agree, if that is what is called stress than you guys don't live in LA! Of course Eddie calling people "Drama Queens" is bound to inflame though..... My .02 Linda -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Cc: Datsun roadster Sent: Wed, Aug 11, 2010 8:31 am Subject: [Roadsters] Valve Train Pieces and Irony... It would seem that irony has entered the forum. Apparently the guy who everyone wanted blocked was kicked off the list... right after getting the email that Alan needed a valve part... which incidentally, that guy has. He asked that I post it that he has it. So, just forwarding the message, if you still need that part, the guy everyone wanted booted has it... Sorry, I just think that's hysterical..... Eddie ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.net From eddietude at socal.rr.com Wed Aug 11 19:31:17 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 18:31:17 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Valve Train Pieces and Irony... In-Reply-To: <8CD07CCFC95D66D-15AC-6222@webmail-m005.sysops.aol.com> References: <665791.32842.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4C62C24E.6080006@socal.rr.com> <8CD07CCFC95D66D-15AC-6222@webmail-m005.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4C634EE5.6070404@socal.rr.com> "Refined bunch"..... LMAO. Yes, the "refined" folks here don't post nasty remarks publicly, but some seem to like to hide behind fake names, and fake email addresses where they send hate mail full of expletives to those they don't agree with... LOL "Drama Queens"... Sorry, calling it like I see it. Getting upset at someone over the internet for posting his parts for sale is ridiculous.... and it's looking to create drama where none exists... There are real things to stress about, and then there's BS. IF someone is stressing about BS, it's because they WANT and CHOOSE to stress over it... My .02 Eddie :-) ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: > Let's be accurate, I don't want him booted. > I see no big deal with listing parts once a week or sooner if the list > changes. You just look at the sender or the Subject line marked "Parts > for sale" and then if you don't want to see a list of parts, you skip > that post. Seems simple to me and rather scary if guys can't figure > that out. In my experience repetition is neccessary because many don't > read the List often or, don't read well period. So repeating is fine > for the majority who are not regulars.Hey parts are getting scarce and > I personally want to scare anyone off. As for perhaps the "tone" of > the seller, well perhaps he doesn't understand what a *refined** > *bunch this is...so we are less tolerant of the internet's usual rude > behavior.* *OK, minus 1 for that. > Otherwise the address can be individually blocked I believe. > And I agree, if that is what is called stress than you guys don't live > in LA! Of course Eddie calling people "Drama Queens" is bound to > inflame though..... > > My .02 > Linda > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eddie > Cc: Datsun roadster > Sent: Wed, Aug 11, 2010 8:31 am > Subject: [Roadsters] Valve Train Pieces and Irony... > > It would seem that irony has entered the forum. > > Apparently the guy who everyone wanted blocked was kicked off the > list... right after getting the email that Alan needed a valve part... > which incidentally, that guy has. He asked that I post it that he has > it. > So, just forwarding the message, if you still need that part, the guy > everyone wanted booted has it... > > Sorry, I just think that's hysterical..... > > Eddie > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.net From ljordan704 at netscape.net Wed Aug 11 19:51:22 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 21:51:22 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Valve Train Pieces and Irony... In-Reply-To: <4C634EE5.6070404@socal.rr.com> References: <665791.32842.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4C62C24E.6080006@socal.rr.com> <8CD07CCFC95D66D-15AC-6222@webmail-m005.sysops.aol.com> <4C634EE5.6070404@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <8CD07D8004B34C5-15AC-759D@webmail-m005.sysops.aol.com> Well I guess "refined" might be a stretch But compared to many sites, it's true. Try political sites. Yikes. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Eddie To: ljordan704 at netscape.net Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Aug 11, 2010 6:31 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Valve Train Pieces and Irony... "Refined bunch"..... LMAO. Yes, the "refined" folks here don't post nasty remarks publicly, but some seem to like to hide behind fake names, and fake email addresses where they send hate mail full of expletives to those they don't agree with... LOL "Drama Queens"... Sorry, calling it like I see it. Getting upset at someone over the internet for posting his parts for sale is ridiculous.... and it's looking to create drama where none exists... There are real things to stress about, and then there's BS. IF someone is stressing about BS, it's because they WANT and CHOOSE to stress over it... My .02 Eddie :-) ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: > Let's be accurate, I don't want him booted. > I see no big deal with listing parts once a week or sooner if the list > changes. You just look at the sender or the Subject line marked "Parts > for sale" and then if you don't want to see a list of parts, you skip > that post. Seems simple to me and rather scary if guys can't figure > that out. In my experience repetition is neccessary because many don't > read the List often or, don't read well period. So repeating is fine > for the majority who are not regulars.Hey parts are getting scarce and > I personally want to scare anyone off. As for perhaps the "tone" of > the seller, well perhaps he doesn't understand what a *refined** > *bunch this is...so we are less tolerant of the internet's usual rude > behavior.* *OK, minus 1 for that. > Otherwise the address can be individually blocked I believe. > And I agree, if that is what is called stress than you guys don't live > in LA! Of course Eddie calling people "Drama Queens" is bound to > inflame though..... > > My .02 > Linda > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eddie > Cc: Datsun roadster > Sent: Wed, Aug 11, 2010 8:31 am > Subject: [Roadsters] Valve Train Pieces and Irony... > > It would seem that irony has entered the forum. > > Apparently the guy who everyone wanted blocked was kicked off the > list... right after getting the email that Alan needed a valve part... > which incidentally, that guy has. He asked that I post it that he has > it. > So, just forwarding the message, if you still need that part, the guy > everyone wanted booted has it... > > Sorry, I just think that's hysterical..... > > Eddie > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.net From tputland at charter.net Wed Aug 11 20:23:25 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 19:23:25 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Forlorn Roadster In-Reply-To: <780555.48600.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20100811222325.MIT7H.7493606.root@mp13> oh I sure hope and pray not!!!! Tim Dairyland Datsuns ---- Gary Callahan wrote: ============= Maybe it was stolen and taken for a joy ride, then left there in the rain. Just one possibility. Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 --- On Tue, 8/10/10, Gregory S. Morrison wrote: From: Gregory S. Morrison Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Forlorn Roadster To: "Roadster List" Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 10:21 AM While driving through downtown Spokane, WA at about 6:30 am last Sunday I saw a tall windshield 2000 with top down parked on the street pretty much all by itself. It had been raining most of the night. Kind of a sad sight. I'm sure it didn't belong to anyone of this list - we care too much about our cars to do something like that - but if it did..."Dude, at least put the top up if you're gonna leave it parked downtown all night." ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcallahan at prodigy.net ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From tputland at charter.net Wed Aug 11 21:42:57 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 20:42:57 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] test Message-ID: <20100811234257.M8YJQ.7496333.root@mp13> From tputland at charter.net Wed Aug 11 22:19:58 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 21:19:58 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] third try at a response to the list Message-ID: <20100812001958.6AX40.7497126.root@mp13> amen pd. Thank you!! It sure seems to me that there are many folks who feel this way. I have a friend who lives in Southern CA. She "hides" behind a false name and email address because there are too many crazies in this world AND on this list-- evidently. She posts to this list very very rarely as she can no longer drive (The reasons for this are no one's business) and is happy to lurk and see the occasional memory posted by some of you old timers--no offense intended here!!!!!!!! PLEASE, NO OFFENSE INTENDED!!!! She used to own a Datsun Roadster many years ago and will always remain tied to the car and the culture; at least as much as she can. It is all too bad that she is just settling on "lurk" mode as she has a nice collection of memories that some of you might enjoy. Anyway, she agrees with me (and you others) on this specific topic/person, but is afraid to post publicly based on where she lives and her proximity to the person who is the subject of this specific thread. So, I have posted for her because I agree with this thread (and the author), and my friend and everyone else who is tired of this person. I live in WISCONSIN. YOU SEE MY EMAIL ADDRESS. I DO NOT HIDE. People are tired of you. Why not grow up or at least go away? Tim AGAIN, I AM IN WI Still clueless but always learning From banshee16 at starband.net Wed Aug 11 23:00:11 2010 From: banshee16 at starband.net (Marcus Pryor) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 22:00:11 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] My '68 2000 Message-ID: My car is getting a little closer to being ready to run. I have had the engine rebuilt and I am getting ready to work on the body. I have purchased two Mikuni/Solexes and manifold. I bought 5 really good looking Panasport look a like wheels. I have two bodies; one that is the original '68 and another '68 1600. The original body is badly rusted out, so I'm going to use the other body. I intend to put the data plate from the original on the new body. Will I run into problems with this? Which rearend whould I ues? From AlanW at dprinc.com Wed Aug 11 23:36:27 2010 From: AlanW at dprinc.com (Alan Watt) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 22:36:27 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] My '68 2000 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4EDB5C49AFCBCE43A501968FB08956B63994F488A5@EXCHANGE07.dprinc.com> As long as the VIN number on the data plate matches the VIN number stamped on the frame (left front below the wiper washer fluid) you should be okay. You may have to clean off some grease and grime to read it. Also, that is assuming you have all the paperwork that matches the VIN number. Believe me, I had quite an experience with this. I am no expert, but I did have to do tons of research since mine did not match. I am not sure when the VIN number also started to show up on the dash, behind the windshield, visible from the outside. - Alan -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Marcus Pryor Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:00 PM To: Datsun Roadster Subject: [Roadsters] My '68 2000 My car is getting a little closer to being ready to run. I have had the engine rebuilt and I am getting ready to work on the body. I have purchased two Mikuni/Solexes and manifold. I bought 5 really good looking Panasport look a like wheels. I have two bodies; one that is the original '68 and another '68 1600. The original body is badly rusted out, so I'm going to use the other body. I intend to put the data plate from the original on the new body. Will I run into problems with this? Which rearend whould I ues? ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/alanw at dprinc.com From Rogerweb2 at columbus.rr.com Thu Aug 12 05:06:03 2010 From: Rogerweb2 at columbus.rr.com (Rogerweb) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 07:06:03 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] '69? Datsun in Lands' End Catalog Message-ID: <4C63D59B.5000700@columbus.rr.com> Just received a catalog from Lands' end men and on page 22 is a nice picture of a silver 69 Datsun. Locking gas cap with no side markers is that a 69? Roger 69 2000 __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5359 (20100811) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. part000.txt - decompression could not complete (possible reasons: insufficient free memory or disk space, or a problem with temp folders) http://www.eset.com From ncoonen at fastbears.com Thu Aug 12 08:36:50 2010 From: ncoonen at fastbears.com (Ned Coonen) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 09:36:50 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] '69? Datsun in Lands' End Catalog References: <4C63D59B.5000700@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: My '69 2000 (SRL311-11066) has an original locking gas cap and front teardrop side markers but none on the rear fenders where I would expect small round rear side markers. Mine also has what appears to be a '68 rear bumper with the license plate lights on it. The rear clip otherwise seems original but who knows? Even if the bumper was replaced there should be license plate lights on the back trunk panel. Now that I have written all this down and scratched my chin a few times, this could explain why there is no lock cylinder for the trunk. Maybe the rear clip was replaced from a '68...? Hmmm. That might also explain the ghetto gas tank straps I found underneath. Perhaps I have one of those omelet cars? Anyone have a spare truck lock cylinder? I mostly want to fill the hole and will likely hook up a cable pull for convenience. ...ned. '69 SRL311 '61 Corvair Lakewood '74 BMW 2002tii -------------------------------------------------- From: "Rogerweb" Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 6:06 AM To: Subject: [Roadsters] '69? Datsun in Lands' End Catalog > Just received a catalog from Lands' end men and on page 22 is a nice > picture of a silver 69 Datsun. > Locking gas cap with no side markers is that a 69? > > Roger > 69 2000 > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 5359 (20100811) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > part000.txt - decompression could not complete (possible reasons: > insufficient free memory or disk space, or a problem with temp folders) > > http://www.eset.com > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ncoonen at fastbears.com From 9laser3 at bright.net Thu Aug 12 09:05:05 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 11:05:05 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster/Vette? Message-ID: <003c01cb3a2f$c15fb520$441f1f60$@net> http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/cto/1858638629.html Not bad from the front but I'm not to sure about the tail? Paul Ohio From mmast at universalprintingco.com Thu Aug 12 09:34:16 2010 From: mmast at universalprintingco.com (Morey Mast) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 10:34:16 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Old Timer Message-ID: Hello to all from Central Texas. I have been reading posts for a number of years and have only replied to a few individuals who were having problems. Have been working on old cars for years and was introduced to "ferin" cars during my Air Force days in New Mexico in the 1960's. I fell in love with them, especially 122 Volvos and other British influenced cars. Roadsters were great slalom cars, but at that time there were several Morgans in the area that dominated. I am currently a member of the Z-Club of Texas, membership number of 133, and the JDCNT. For years I was part of the Texas Datsun Roadster Owners Club which sort of faded out in the late 1990's. I still have many hours of DAT film from runs we took through New Mexico and Colorado. The last one we made went through Oklahoma, Arkansas and on to a ranch the company I am with owns, located in the Ozark Mountains in Missouri. We stayed a couple of nights there and made a run into St. Louis. I drove a 70 model 2 liter on all of these runs. As part of the Z-Club my 70 model 1600 won best of class two years in a row, plus second in class the year before in the Dallas Autorama, a Class II ISCA car show. This, too, was in the early 1990's. I sold this car a few years ago to a young fellow in the San Francisco area. This was an absolutely beautiful car. I am now happily driving a Roadster that started life as a 70 model 1600, but after rebuilding a 1969 2 liter drive train and dropping it into the 1600, I changed out the dash complete with the 69 2 liter VIN number and submitted the title from the 69 to the State of Texas and I am now driving a 69 2 liter with rectangular side markers. The only folks I have ever met who post item to this site are Andy Cost (I was a friend of his late father, Terry, who, with his wife, made the run to Missouri with us.) and, I think, Michael Knorr who I would have met at the Z-Club National Convention in Albuquerque, NM in the late 1990's. Michael, if that was someone else I met, I apologize for using your name. I am now on my last project which is almost complete, a 1966 Jaguar XKE Roadster with a Ford 302 and Cobra T-5 tranny. Almost four years so far and am almost done. Picking up rechromed pieces tomorrow in Garland, Texas. Please don't hold this against me. Thanks to all of you for sharing your conversations. Most all of us love the cars. Morey M. Mast Vice President, National Sales Universal Printing Company 114 Center Ave., Suite 204 Brownwood, TX 76801 325-646-4300 Voice 325-646-4390 FAX FSC Certified by the Forest Stewardship Council as a Chain-of-Custody printer SGS-COC-003338 From keithddowning at yahoo.com Thu Aug 12 10:04:54 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 09:04:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster/Vette? In-Reply-To: <003c01cb3a2f$c15fb520$441f1f60$@net> References: <003c01cb3a2f$c15fb520$441f1f60$@net> Message-ID: <457244.30823.qm@web83305.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Sorry, that's just an abomination. Keith ________________________________ From: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> To: datsun-roadsters Sent: Thu, August 12, 2010 8:05:05 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster/Vette? http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/cto/1858638629.html Not bad from the front but I'm not to sure about the tail? Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.com From banshee16 at starband.net Thu Aug 12 10:50:20 2010 From: banshee16 at starband.net (Marcus Pryor) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 09:50:20 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] My '68 2000 In-Reply-To: <4EDB5C49AFCBCE43A501968FB08956B63994F488A5@EXCHANGE07.dprinc.com> References: <4EDB5C49AFCBCE43A501968FB08956B63994F488A5@EXCHANGE07.dprinc.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the information. It's my plan to remove the body from the frame. How many body bolts are there? On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Alan Watt wrote: > As long as the VIN number on the data plate matches the VIN number stamped > on the frame (left front below the wiper washer fluid) you should be okay. > You may have to clean off some grease and grime to read it. Also, that is > assuming you have all the paperwork that matches the VIN number. Believe > me, I had quite an experience with this. I am no expert, but I did have to > do tons of research since mine did not match. I am not sure when the VIN > number also started to show up on the dash, behind the windshield, visible > from the outside. > > - Alan > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Marcus Pryor > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:00 PM > To: Datsun Roadster > Subject: [Roadsters] My '68 2000 > > My car is getting a little closer to being ready to run. I have had the > engine rebuilt and I am getting ready to work on the body. I have purchased > two Mikuni/Solexes and manifold. I bought 5 really good looking Panasport > look a like wheels. > > I have two bodies; one that is the original '68 and another '68 1600. The > original body is badly rusted out, so I'm going to use the other body. I > intend to put the data plate from the original on the new body. Will I run > into problems with this? Which rearend whould I ues? > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/alanw at dprinc.com From gcallahan at prodigy.net Thu Aug 12 11:11:41 2010 From: gcallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 10:11:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster/Vette? In-Reply-To: <003c01cb3a2f$c15fb520$441f1f60$@net> Message-ID: <592479.99208.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm sorry; I just barfed a little bit in my mouth! ;~) Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 --- On Thu, 8/12/10, Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote: From: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster/Vette? To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 8:05 AM http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/cto/1858638629.html Not bad from the front but I'm not to sure about the tail? Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcallahan at prodigy.net From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Thu Aug 12 11:30:54 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 10:30:54 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fun Evening and a change of pace post -Stunt Road Message-ID: Linda Jordan reminded me of this road - looking over the Santa Monica mountains at sunset - not the rockies - but beautiful nonetheless - if you live in the area, you owe it to yourself to give it a whirlhttp://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Stunt+Road,+ Calabasas,+CA&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=42.089199,110.126953&ie=UTF8&hq=&hn ear=Stunt+Rd,+Calabasas,+Los+Angeles,+California+91302&ll=34.082735,-118.6605 83&spn=0.04315,0.107546&z=14 and then to Moonshadows on PCH for a couple of glasses of Chimay and a cigar. Peter From sandhoff at csus.edu Thu Aug 12 11:49:14 2010 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 10:49:14 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Pulling the body (was: My '68 2000) In-Reply-To: References: <4EDB5C49AFCBCE43A501968FB08956B63994F488A5@EXCHANGE07.dprinc.com> Message-ID: <4C63D1AA.31388.ACBCA65@localhost> > How many body bolts are there? As I recall, fourteen. Seven per side. Remember the parking brake cable and ground straps, too :-) -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA p.s. Rear end ratios are different on 1600 and 2L. From robbieharrison at comcast.net Thu Aug 12 11:56:06 2010 From: robbieharrison at comcast.net (Robbie Harrison) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 13:56:06 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster/Vette? In-Reply-To: <003c01cb3a2f$c15fb520$441f1f60$@net> References: <003c01cb3a2f$c15fb520$441f1f60$@net> Message-ID: <002701cb3a47$b0af2b30$120d8190$@net> Eeeeewwwwwww Robbie Harrison 68 2000 in CT -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:05 AM To: 'datsun-roadsters' Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster/Vette? http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/cto/1858638629.html Not bad from the front but I'm not to sure about the tail? Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/robbieharrison at comcas t.net From gcallahan at prodigy.net Thu Aug 12 12:02:53 2010 From: gcallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 11:02:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Fun Evening and a change of pace post -Stunt Road In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <66293.34169.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> That looks like a great drive; I wish I knew about it when I lived in So Cal and had my other Datsun Roadster. Come up to Oregon sometime and I'll show some really great drives. Go to: http://tinyurl.com/StuntRd if you have problems with the long URL from Peter. Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 --- On Thu, 8/12/10, peter harrison wrote: From: peter harrison Subject: [Roadsters] Fun Evening and a change of pace post -Stunt Road To: "Brian La Pratt" , "datsun" Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 10:30 AM Linda Jordan reminded me of this road - looking over the Santa Monica mountains at sunset - not the rockies - but beautiful nonetheless - if you live in the area, you owe it to yourself to give it a whirlhttp://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Stunt+Road,+ Calabasas,+CA&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=42.089199,110.126953&ie=UTF8&hq=&hn ear=Stunt+Rd,+Calabasas,+Los+Angeles,+California+91302&ll=34.082735,-118.6605 83&spn=0.04315,0.107546&z=14 and then to Moonshadows on PCH for a couple of glasses of Chimay and a cigar. Peter ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcallahan at prodigy.net From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Aug 12 12:47:27 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 11:47:27 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Pulling the body (was: My '68 2000) In-Reply-To: <4C63D1AA.31388.ACBCA65@localhost> References: <4EDB5C49AFCBCE43A501968FB08956B63994F488A5@EXCHANGE07.dprinc.com> <4C63D1AA.31388.ACBCA65@localhost> Message-ID: <006c01cb3a4e$cfcbc850$6f6358f0$@net> ....and speedo cable, fuel/brake lines, etc. Hopefully, all those will be removed prior to the body swap. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John F Sandhoff Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 10:49 AM To: Marcus Pryor Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Pulling the body (was: My '68 2000) > How many body bolts are there? As I recall, fourteen. Seven per side. Remember the parking brake cable and ground straps, too :-) -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA p.s. Rear end ratios are different on 1600 and 2L. ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Aug 12 12:51:46 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 11:51:46 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Which differential? (was "My '68 2000") In-Reply-To: References: <4EDB5C49AFCBCE43A501968FB08956B63994F488A5@EXCHANGE07.dprinc.com> Message-ID: <007001cb3a4f$6aa1d810$3fe58830$@net> 1600 used 3.90 2000 used 3.70 Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Marcus Pryor Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:00 PM To: Datsun Roadster Subject: [Roadsters] My '68 2000 My car is getting a little closer to being ready to run. [snip I have two bodies; one that is the original '68 and another '68 1600. The original body is badly rusted out, so I'm going to use the other body. Which rearend should I use? From gsglasgow at comcast.net Thu Aug 12 12:53:14 2010 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 11:53:14 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: 1969 Datsun 2000 Roadster for sale Message-ID: <002a01cb3a4f$9eee35f0$dccaa1d0$@net> Got this email yesterday. The seller's phone number puts it in San Bernadino, CA. There were four pictures attached, which I have removed since the listserv will strip them anyway. The car looks basically straight except for rear end damage in both taillight areas. If you want to see the pictures, contact me and I'll send them to you. Other than that, I know nothing about this car or the seller. Gordon Glasgow From: Gayle McDavid [mailto:gayle at usbowling.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:59 PM To: me at gordon-glasgow.org Subject: 1969 Datsun 2000 Roadster for sale 1969 DATSUN ROADSTER 2000 UNDER 60,000 ORIGINAL MILES REGISTRATION THRU JUNE 2011 NEW FRONT TIRES (2) NEW BATTERY NEW SOFT TOP CUSTOM CAR COVER RUNS GOOD 2-3 BOXES OF EXTRA USED PARTS $ 8,000.00 OBO Contact Gayle McDavid 909-702-9263 Gayle McDavid 909-702-9263 dgcats at yahoo.com From ronnie.day at gmail.com Thu Aug 12 13:10:20 2010 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 14:10:20 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Pulling the body (was: My '68 2000) In-Reply-To: <4C63D1AA.31388.ACBCA65@localhost> References: <4EDB5C49AFCBCE43A501968FB08956B63994F488A5@EXCHANGE07.dprinc.com> <4C63D1AA.31388.ACBCA65@localhost> Message-ID: > John > > As I recall, fourteen. Seven per side. > Remember the parking brake cable and ground straps, too :-) > > -- John > B B John F Sandhoff B sandhoff at csus.edu B Sacramento, CA > > p.s. Rear end ratios are different on 1600 and 2L. > ________________________________________ In addition, before you loosen the bolts be sure to build an interior "frame" to stiffen the body shell and maintain alignment. The body shell has little inherent strength of its own. RD From dave at ranteer.com Thu Aug 12 13:33:13 2010 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 14:33:13 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Pulling the body (was: My '68 2000) In-Reply-To: <006c01cb3a4e$cfcbc850$6f6358f0$@net> References: <4EDB5C49AFCBCE43A501968FB08956B63994F488A5@EXCHANGE07.dprinc.com><4C63D1AA.31388.ACBCA65@localhost> <006c01cb3a4e$cfcbc850$6f6358f0$@net> Message-ID: <90D708E050A942CEBD5B544B4BB0F902@ranteer.local> 311s.org has a section on pulling the body. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Pete Peters" Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:47 PM To: "Datsun Roadster List" Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Pulling the body (was: My '68 2000) > ....and speedo cable, fuel/brake lines, etc. Hopefully, all those will be > removed prior to the body swap. > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John F > Sandhoff > Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 10:49 AM > To: Marcus Pryor > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Pulling the body (was: My '68 2000) > >> How many body bolts are there? > > As I recall, fourteen. Seven per side. > Remember the parking brake cable and ground straps, too :-) > > -- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA > > p.s. Rear end ratios are different on 1600 and 2L. From gogineni.alvin at gene.com Thu Aug 12 15:46:36 2010 From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 14:46:36 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Caravan to the Rolex Motorsports Reunion this Saturday! Message-ID: <41043B75-97A3-41F2-8A49-DE75625CE29A@gene.com> Nissan/Datsun fans get ready for a tremendous day of racing at the Rolex Motorsports Reunion! Join us as we caravan from ZCarGarage to Laguna Seca this SATURDAY 8/14. We will leave the shop at 7am! ZCarGarage 140 Archer St. San Jose, 95112 From classicautorecycling at yahoo.com Thu Aug 12 20:10:54 2010 From: classicautorecycling at yahoo.com (classicautorecycling at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 22:10:54 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Hey Tim Message-ID: <624d2288-3125-4a17-b12f-1a260741a4ac@blur> Tim, you around? Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless From roadster at astound.net Thu Aug 12 21:06:16 2010 From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 20:06:16 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Pulling the body (was: My '68 2000) In-Reply-To: <4C63D1AA.31388.ACBCA65@localhost> References: <4EDB5C49AFCBCE43A501968FB08956B63994F488A5@EXCHANGE07.dprinc.com> <4C63D1AA.31388.ACBCA65@localhost> Message-ID: I remembered those, but forgot a brake line from the firewall to the front wheels. As I raised the body, the brake line stretched into a new pretty shape! Fred - So.SF BADROC On Aug 12, 2010, at 10:49 AM, "John F Sandhoff" wrote: > Remember the parking brake cable and ground straps, too :-) From tputland at charter.net Fri Aug 13 07:14:24 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 6:14:24 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank sealing and fuel lines Message-ID: <20100813091424.0M6PP.9928071.root@mp06> I pulled the gas tank from my second part car yesterday. It is in great shape on the outside but I still want to get it boiled out and sealed. My question pertains to the sealing process. I asssume it is the inside that is sealed, but what do they use and does this degrade over time because of the expsosure to the gas? Also, once I pull the tank from my running 1600 to replace it, would blowing out the fuel lines be enough, or should I go ahead and replace them as well? Thanks Tim Dairyland Datsuns From lmflaming at comcast.net Fri Aug 13 09:43:05 2010 From: lmflaming at comcast.net (lmflaming at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank sealing and fuel lines In-Reply-To: <1002617171.1107981.1281714081367.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1870798491.1108094.1281714185099.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I to would like the same information on this topic.B I have decided to not try and seal or clean my gas tank but I did blow out the line. I removed the filter from my glass one and put a new fine filter in the line that you can also see thru so I can watch and also watch the origonal one to see if any sediment settles in it. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 7:14:24 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank sealing and fuel lines I pulled the gas tank from my second part car yesterday. It is in great shape on the outside but I still want to get it boiled out and sealed. My question pertains to the sealing process. I asssume it is the inside that is sealed, but what do they use and does this degrade over time because of the expsosure to the gas? Also, once I pull the tank from my running 1600 to replace it, would blowing out the fuel lines be enough, or should I go ahead and replace them as well? Thanks Tim Dairyland Datsuns ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation B $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/lmflaming at comcast.net From Fairlady at putermail.net Fri Aug 13 10:06:39 2010 From: Fairlady at putermail.net (Fairlady) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:06:39 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Hagerty Insurance Message-ID: <00b801cb3b01$83c82850$8b5878f0$@putermail.net> Has anyone ever filed a claim with Hagerty? I'm trying to decide whether to file or suck it up and eat the repairs on my 68 myself. My son just had a minor no-fault with another car. Twisted the bumper, re-shaped the left front fender, lights headlight and all. Chas From umccullough at gmail.com Fri Aug 13 10:09:03 2010 From: umccullough at gmail.com (Urias McCullough) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:09:03 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank sealing and fuel lines In-Reply-To: <20100813091424.0M6PP.9928071.root@mp06> References: <20100813091424.0M6PP.9928071.root@mp06> Message-ID: Oops, I replied directly to Tim earlier, will cc the list with my response: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:14 AM, Tim wrote: > I pulled the gas tank from my second part car yesterday. It is in great shape on the outside but I still want to get it boiled out and sealed. Most of the ones I've seen redone appear to use Red Kote: http://damonq.com/Red-Kote.htm I've seen a white plastic coating type sealant used on motorcycle tanks as well (might be what Eastwood sells: http://www.eastwood.com/gas-tank-sealer-kits.html), but one that I inspected had flaked off and clogged up the filter after several years of sitting. This could have been poor prep work, however - since I believe it was done by the owner. POR15 also makes a sealer: http://www.por15.com/Fuel-System-Restoration/products/12/ which I've heard good things about. HTH, Urias From eddietude at socal.rr.com Fri Aug 13 10:17:30 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:17:30 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank sealing and fuel lines In-Reply-To: <20100813091424.0M6PP.9928071.root@mp06> References: <20100813091424.0M6PP.9928071.root@mp06> Message-ID: <4C65701A.7010603@socal.rr.com> What do they use and does this degrade over time because of the expsosure to the gas? "What do they use?" Depends on the process and the company. There are several products out there to seal a vehicle. This is like asking what fabric to people wear. There are multiple options. "Does it degrade over time because of the exposure to gas" Not if you use the right stuff. Only an idiot would use something in a gas tank that degrades due to exposure to gas. That would kind of defeat the purpose, don't you think? Eddie Tim wrote: > I pulled the gas tank from my second part car yesterday. It is in great shape on the outside but I still want to get it boiled out and sealed. > > My question pertains to the sealing process. I asssume it is the inside that is sealed, but what do they use and does this degrade over time because of the expsosure to the gas? > > Also, once I pull the tank from my running 1600 to replace it, would blowing out the fuel lines be enough, or should I go ahead and replace them as well? > > Thanks > > Tim > Dairyland Datsuns > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From eddietude at socal.rr.com Fri Aug 13 10:20:45 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:20:45 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank sealing and fuel lines In-Reply-To: <1870798491.1108094.1281714185099.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1870798491.1108094.1281714185099.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4C6570DD.2010607@socal.rr.com> Easy clean for a gas tank: Muriatic acid. You can buy the stuff at Home Depot. Pour a couple of gallons in the tank, and let it sit. Depending on how much crap you have in the tank will determine how long you want to leave it. I did this with a tank that was pretty rusty inside, and it loosened up a lot of the crud. You can also spend about 100 to 200 to have a company use harsher chemicals or an electrical process to remove the crud. More expensive, but removes more crud too. Fuel Lines: Blow them out. Easiest way to go. If they show signs of deterioration or leaking, just replace. Fuel Filer: Probably the best, easiest, and cheapest way to go is what you described. A clear plastic disposable filter you can check and see if there's crud in it. Eddie lmflaming at comcast.net wrote: > I to would like the same information on this topic.B I have decided to not try > and seal or clean my gas tank but I did blow out the line. I removed the > filter from my glass one and put a new fine filter in the line that you can > also see thru so I can watch and also watch the origonal one to see if any > sediment settles in it. > > Larry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim" > To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 7:14:24 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank sealing and fuel lines > > I pulled the gas tank from my second part car yesterday. It is in great shape > on the outside but I still want to get it boiled out and sealed. > > My question pertains to the sealing process. I asssume it is the inside that > is sealed, but what do they use and does this degrade over time because of the > expsosure to the gas? > > Also, once I pull the tank from my running 1600 to replace it, would blowing > out the fuel lines be enough, or should I go ahead and replace them as well? > > Thanks > > Tim > Dairyland Datsuns > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation B $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/lmflaming at comcast.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From garytew at cox.net Fri Aug 13 10:42:33 2010 From: garytew at cox.net (Gary tew) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:42:33 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank sealing and fuel lines In-Reply-To: <1870798491.1108094.1281714185099.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1870798491.1108094.1281714185099.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <2FD326C5-25F5-4A1D-9E60-9B5F81291B9C@cox.net> I used a couple of POR-15 products, Marine Clean and Tank Sealer on my 1600 tank. I've put about 3500 miles on it so far and no fuel problems to report. Gary Tew 67 1600 Phoenix On Aug 13, 2010, at 8:43 AM, lmflaming at comcast.net wrote: > I to would like the same information on this topic.B I have decided to not try > and seal or clean my gas tank but I did blow out the line. I removed the > filter from my glass one and put a new fine filter in the line that you can > also see thru so I can watch and also watch the origonal one to see if any > sediment settles in it. > > Larry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim" > To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 7:14:24 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank sealing and fuel lines > > I pulled the gas tank from my second part car yesterday. It is in great shape > on the outside but I still want to get it boiled out and sealed. > > My question pertains to the sealing process. I asssume it is the inside that > is sealed, but what do they use and does this degrade over time because of the > expsosure to the gas? > > Also, once I pull the tank from my running 1600 to replace it, would blowing > out the fuel lines be enough, or should I go ahead and replace them as well? > > Thanks > > Tim > Dairyland Datsuns > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation B $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/lmflaming at comcast.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/garytew at cox.net From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Fri Aug 13 10:44:53 2010 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:44:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank sealing and fuel lines In-Reply-To: <20100813091424.0M6PP.9928071.root@mp06> Message-ID: <896488.4349.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> You know, on the face of it, the question of whether the material used to seal the interior of a fuel tank will be degraded by exposure to the fuel would seem kinda silly, but if I have learned anything in 29 years as an engineer in the defense industry, spec'ing materials and components for the equipment I have designed, it's that one must ask the question to which the answer seems obvious. I have learned not to automatically assume that someone else is doing their job competently, or even really knows how to do their job at an acceptable level of competence. That world-weary response aside b given the changes in the formulation of gasoline over the last couple of decades, and the likelihood of further changes in the future, asking the right questions in order to ensure that the treatment you are paying to have done on your gas tank will hold up to its intended usage is a smart thing to do. On the issue of gasoline formulation b I have heard horror stories about the gelatinous, toxic sludge that recent-years gasoline has turned into after 3 or 4 years in a tank, and I have seen pink, liquid, perfectly usable gasoline in a gas tank that was last filled in 1990! Gary McCormick San Jose, CA '70 2000 SRL311-13291 --- On Fri, 8/13/10, Tim wrote: From: Tim Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank sealing and fuel lines To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 6:14 AM I pulled the gas tank from my second part car yesterday. It is in great shape on the outside but I still want to get it boiled out and sealed. My question pertains to the sealing process. I asssume it is the inside that is sealed, but what do they use and does this degrade over time because of the expsosure to the gas? Also, once I pull the tank from my running 1600 to replace it, would blowing out the fuel lines be enough, or should I go ahead and replace them as well? Thanks Tim Dairyland Datsuns ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donationB $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net From dave at ranteer.com Fri Aug 13 10:46:08 2010 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:46:08 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] [SPAM] Hagerty Insurance In-Reply-To: <00b801cb3b01$83c82850$8b5878f0$@putermail.net> References: <00b801cb3b01$83c82850$8b5878f0$@putermail.net> Message-ID: <3D1043EFD5E24D1EBDBC973335834286@ranteer.local> I have filed two claims. both were completely painless. the first was a windshield. it was at a shop already; they looked at it and wrote a check. the second was for a hit and run accident; I wasn't in the car and didn't notice it until a week or two later (was on the passenger side) they made me get a police report - no biggie - drove up there, they did it pretty quickly - and then Hagerty made out a check which I handed to the body shop. drove it home about 2 weeks later. both times - $0 out of picket -------------------------------------------------- From: "Fairlady" Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 11:06 AM To: Subject: [SPAM] [Roadsters] Hagerty Insurance > Has anyone ever filed a claim with Hagerty? I'm trying to decide whether > to > file or suck it up and eat the repairs on my 68 myself. My son just had a > minor no-fault with another car. Twisted the bumper, re-shaped the left > front fender, lights headlight and all. > > Chas From markmussari at gmail.com Fri Aug 13 11:13:01 2010 From: markmussari at gmail.com (Mark Mussari) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:13:01 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Trying to decide on an oil Message-ID: All, I've been lurking for a while, but getting ready to change oil this weekend and have read a lot about oil manufacturers and Datsun Roadsters. I've come to see the importance of the right oil and am wondering what everyone runs. I've read back about a year on the subject, and know some run Royal Purple. I'm leaning towards that, but PO did not use synthetics, and I've read here that going synthetic might mean never going back (or is that a myth?). I've also read a lot of good things about Shell Rotella 15w40. I had planned on the Royal Purple 20w50 (Southern California) until I came across the articles on Rotella and its high zinc content. I burn a bit of oil right now, so that is also something to think about for me. Anyone have experience comparing between the two? Thanks in Advance, Mark From eddietude at socal.rr.com Fri Aug 13 12:08:49 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:08:49 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Trying to decide on an oil In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C658A31.8080104@socal.rr.com> Most of the debate on Oil is complete BS. Consumer Reports did a study on motor oil a few years back. They took over 100 taxi cabs in NY city. Completely disassembled the motors, and measured the clearances. Then they reassembled them, and began a strict oil change regiment on each car. Here's the end results: Cars that had their oil changed every 3,000, 6,000 or even 9,000 miles showed NO DIFFERENCE in the amount of wear after 100,000 miles. Different brands of oil showed NO DIFFERENCE. Synthetic vs regular, NO DIFFERENCE. Basically their summation was that all oil is relatively the same, that the extra cost for synthetic isn't worth it, and that much of the "hype" about oil is simply that. HYPE. Eddie Mark Mussari wrote: > All, > > I've been lurking for a while, but getting ready to change oil this weekend > and have read a lot about oil manufacturers and Datsun Roadsters. I've come > to see the importance of the right oil and am wondering what everyone runs. > I've read back about a year on the subject, and know some run Royal Purple. > I'm leaning towards that, but PO did not use synthetics, and I've read here > that going synthetic might mean never going back (or is that a myth?). > > I've also read a lot of good things about Shell Rotella 15w40. I had > planned on the Royal Purple 20w50 (Southern California) until I came across > the articles on Rotella and its high zinc content. I burn a bit of oil > right now, so that is also something to think about for me. Anyone have > experience comparing between the two? > > Thanks in Advance, > > > Mark > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From eddietude at socal.rr.com Fri Aug 13 12:12:19 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:12:19 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Trying to decide on an oil In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C658B03.80404@socal.rr.com> Most of the debate on Oil is complete BS. Consumer Reports did a study on motor oil a few years back. They took over 100 taxi cabs in NY city. Completely disassembled the motors, and measured the clearances. Then they reassembled them, and began a strict oil change regiment on each car. Here's the end results: Cars that had their oil changed every 3,000, 6,000 or even 9,000 miles showed NO DIFFERENCE in the amount of wear after 100,000 miles. Different brands of oil showed NO DIFFERENCE. Synthetic vs regular, NO DIFFERENCE. Basically their summation was that all oil is relatively the same, that the extra cost for synthetic isn't worth it, and that much of the "hype" about oil is simply that. HYPE. Eddie Mark Mussari wrote: > All, > > I've been lurking for a while, but getting ready to change oil this weekend > and have read a lot about oil manufacturers and Datsun Roadsters. I've come > to see the importance of the right oil and am wondering what everyone runs. > I've read back about a year on the subject, and know some run Royal Purple. > I'm leaning towards that, but PO did not use synthetics, and I've read here > that going synthetic might mean never going back (or is that a myth?). > > I've also read a lot of good things about Shell Rotella 15w40. I had > planned on the Royal Purple 20w50 (Southern California) until I came across > the articles on Rotella and its high zinc content. I burn a bit of oil > right now, so that is also something to think about for me. Anyone have > experience comparing between the two? > > Thanks in Advance, > > > Mark > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net Fri Aug 13 12:51:06 2010 From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:51:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Hagerty Insurance In-Reply-To: <00b801cb3b01$83c82850$8b5878f0$@putermail.net> Message-ID: <737406.7824.qm@web81706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> When I had a small claim with Hagerty, it was a very easy and pain-free claim process. I had no deductible, and they allowed me to have the repair done at the shop of my choice. I could only wish my primary insurance carrier (Daily Driver's insurance) was nearly as good as Hagerty. Dan Zubkoff Houston, TX --- On Fri, 8/13/10, Fairlady wrote: From: Fairlady Subject: [Roadsters] Hagerty Insurance To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 11:06 AM Has anyone ever filed a claim with Hagerty? I'm trying to decide whether to file or suck it up and eat the repairs on my 68 myself. My son just had a minor no-fault with another car. Twisted the bumper, re-shaped the left front fender, lights headlight and all. Chas ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/zubkoff at sbcglobal.net From mmast at universalprintingco.com Fri Aug 13 13:47:14 2010 From: mmast at universalprintingco.com (Morey Mast) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 14:47:14 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Trying to decide on an oil In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3BB75B60-5406-4F67-933E-69FE4F194F65@universalprintingco.com> Have been using Rotella T since the 1960's, including times when I had to drive almost 120 miles To buy it. Have put over 300,000 miles on each of 3 different Jaguars. Morey Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2010, at 12:34 PM, Mark Mussari wrote: > All, > > I've been lurking for a while, but getting ready to change oil this weekend > and have read a lot about oil manufacturers and Datsun Roadsters. I've come > to see the importance of the right oil and am wondering what everyone runs. > I've read back about a year on the subject, and know some run Royal Purple. > I'm leaning towards that, but PO did not use synthetics, and I've read here > that going synthetic might mean never going back (or is that a myth?). > > I've also read a lot of good things about Shell Rotella 15w40. I had > planned on the Royal Purple 20w50 (Southern California) until I came across > the articles on Rotella and its high zinc content. I burn a bit of oil > right now, so that is also something to think about for me. Anyone have > experience comparing between the two? > > Thanks in Advance, > > > Mark > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/mmast at universalprintin gco.com From sewebberlaw at gmail.com Fri Aug 13 14:31:44 2010 From: sewebberlaw at gmail.com (Stephen E. Webber) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 13:31:44 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Trying to decide on an oil References: <3BB75B60-5406-4F67-933E-69FE4F194F65@universalprintingco.com> Message-ID: <2B8E10B1DB4C49F0B6E16974141B4C41@STEVE> My 93 Ford Explorer has over 280,000 miles on it. Gets over 3000 miles per quart, often 5000 miles depending on driving. I have used whatever the local parts store has on sale, Exxon, Shell, Castrol, Vasoline, etc. I read the Consumers Reports article on motor oil, and my experience seems to agree. 63 Roadster Stevie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Morey Mast" To: "Mark Mussari" Cc: Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Trying to decide on an oil > Have been using Rotella T since the 1960's, including times when I had to > drive almost 120 miles To buy it. Have put over 300,000 miles on each of > 3 > different Jaguars. > > Morey > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 13, 2010, at 12:34 PM, Mark Mussari wrote: > >> All, >> >> I've been lurking for a while, but getting ready to change oil this >> weekend >> and have read a lot about oil manufacturers and Datsun Roadsters. I've > come >> to see the importance of the right oil and am wondering what everyone >> runs. >> I've read back about a year on the subject, and know some run Royal >> Purple. >> I'm leaning towards that, but PO did not use synthetics, and I've read >> here >> that going synthetic might mean never going back (or is that a myth?). >> >> I've also read a lot of good things about Shell Rotella 15w40. I had >> planned on the Royal Purple 20w50 (Southern California) until I came >> across >> the articles on Rotella and its high zinc content. I burn a bit of oil >> right now, so that is also something to think about for me. Anyone have >> experience comparing between the two? >> >> Thanks in Advance, >> >> >> Mark >> ________________________________________ >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/mmast at universalprintin > gco.com > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/sewebberlaw at gmail.com From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri Aug 13 15:39:21 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 14:39:21 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Trying to decide on an oil In-Reply-To: <2B8E10B1DB4C49F0B6E16974141B4C41@STEVE> References: <3BB75B60-5406-4F67-933E-69FE4F194F65@universalprintingco.com> <2B8E10B1DB4C49F0B6E16974141B4C41@STEVE> Message-ID: <006201cb3b2f$fe3e2b60$faba8220$@net> I remember an old Popular Mechanics article ('70s? '80's? '90's?) that profiled a number of vehicles owned by regular folks that had over 300k miles. One of 'em had over a million miles. The key thing every one of them did was change the oil every 3k-5k miles. Pete From 9laser3 at bright.net Fri Aug 13 16:05:05 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 18:05:05 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Trying to decide on an oil In-Reply-To: <4C658A31.8080104@socal.rr.com> References: <4C658A31.8080104@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <003f01cb3b33$98409010$c8c1b030$@net> So we should all go out and buy Checkers? Sorry, but my driving habits are a bit different than a cabs. They never shut down and rack up mileage in a hurry. And they rarely hit highway speeds. IMHO, Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eddie Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 2:09 PM To: Mark Mussari Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Trying to decide on an oil Most of the debate on Oil is complete BS. Consumer Reports did a study on motor oil a few years back. They took over 100 taxi cabs in NY city. Completely disassembled the motors, and measured the clearances. Then they reassembled them, and began a strict oil change regiment on each car. Here's the end results: Cars that had their oil changed every 3,000, 6,000 or even 9,000 miles showed NO DIFFERENCE in the amount of wear after 100,000 miles. Different brands of oil showed NO DIFFERENCE. Synthetic vs regular, NO DIFFERENCE. Basically their summation was that all oil is relatively the same, that the extra cost for synthetic isn't worth it, and that much of the "hype" about oil is simply that. HYPE. Eddie Mark Mussari wrote: > All, > > I've been lurking for a while, but getting ready to change oil this weekend > and have read a lot about oil manufacturers and Datsun Roadsters. I've come > to see the importance of the right oil and am wondering what everyone runs. > I've read back about a year on the subject, and know some run Royal Purple. > I'm leaning towards that, but PO did not use synthetics, and I've read here > that going synthetic might mean never going back (or is that a myth?). > > I've also read a lot of good things about Shell Rotella 15w40. I had > planned on the Royal Purple 20w50 (Southern California) until I came across > the articles on Rotella and its high zinc content. I burn a bit of oil > right now, so that is also something to think about for me. Anyone have > experience comparing between the two? > > Thanks in Advance, > > > Mark > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.co m ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net From eddietude at socal.rr.com Fri Aug 13 16:30:20 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:30:20 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Trying to decide on an oil In-Reply-To: <006201cb3b2f$fe3e2b60$faba8220$@net> References: <3BB75B60-5406-4F67-933E-69FE4F194F65@universalprintingco.com> <2B8E10B1DB4C49F0B6E16974141B4C41@STEVE> <006201cb3b2f$fe3e2b60$faba8220$@net> Message-ID: <4C65C77C.9040309@socal.rr.com> "The key thing every one of them did was change the oil every 3k-5k miles." The end doesn't necessarily justify the means... or something like that. There's something else to consider... is it that the changing of the oil that made the difference, or the overall maintenance? People who meticulously change the oil every 3,000 miles may also be more likely to do all the OTHER maintenance on a regular basis as well. That OTHER maintenance has an effect on engine wear. Someone who is meticulous on all maintenance but changes the oil every 6,000 miles may have the same engine wear results. According to the consumer reports study, changing the oil more frequently had NO NOTICEABLE effect on the wear. NONE. Cars that were run for 9,000 mile oil change intervals had the SAME wear as cars with a 3,000 mile change interval. Eddie Pete Peters wrote: > The key thing every one of them did was change the oil every 3k-5k miles. > > Pete > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From twobeaners at earthlink.net Fri Aug 13 16:48:42 2010 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:48:42 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Trying to decide on an oil References: <4C658A31.8080104@socal.rr.com> <003f01cb3b33$98409010$c8c1b030$@net> Message-ID: IMHO, I've read similar articles including the articles from Consumer Reports, from which I subscribe, ......and I concur with CR,... IMHO...,and I have to point out what you said about ..."And they rarely hit highway speeds"....precisely the point,... According to CR and other sources of their popular notion: it's the "CITY miles, STOP and GO , High Heat Idling, ...blah,...blah... that is considered at the very least, and well short of "racing conditions", ..a reliable standard of "real world" wear and tear on inspected engine wear surfaces. I could champion that belief,... or degrade it, but I'm not an SAE engineer, just another lowly, uninformed, Roadster owner. I wish I had the confidence and credentials to categorically dismiss what I'm not sure about,... or at least provide a supportive bibliographic source of my opinion,... Oh hey, just kiddin'! ! of course.... Mike Hudson '67 -Stroker / 5-Speed,..........KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI, Zip Code 64145 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net> To: "'Eddie'" ; "'Mark Mussari'" Cc: Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Trying to decide on an oil > So we should all go out and buy Checkers? > > Sorry, but my driving habits are a bit different than a cabs. They never > shut down and rack up mileage in a hurry. And they rarely hit highway > speeds. > > IMHO, > > Paul From eddietude at socal.rr.com Fri Aug 13 17:01:22 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:01:22 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Trying to decide on an oil In-Reply-To: References: <4C658A31.8080104@socal.rr.com> <003f01cb3b33$98409010$c8c1b030$@net> Message-ID: <4C65CEC2.7010106@socal.rr.com> Mike, Excellent points. It IS the city miles that are harder on a car. Freeway miles are much easier... which is one reason fuel consumption is much less on freeway miles. Eddie MH wrote: > IMHO, > I've read similar articles including the articles from Consumer > Reports, from which I subscribe, ......and I concur with CR,... > > IMHO...,and I have to point out what you said about ..."And they > rarely hit highway speeds"....precisely the point,... > > According to CR and other sources of their popular notion: it's the > "CITY miles, STOP and GO , High Heat Idling, ...blah,...blah... that > is considered at the very least, and well short of "racing > conditions", ..a reliable standard of "real world" wear and tear on > inspected engine wear surfaces. > > I could champion that belief,... or degrade it, but I'm not an SAE > engineer, just another lowly, uninformed, Roadster owner. > > I wish I had the confidence and credentials to categorically dismiss > what I'm not sure about,... or at least provide a supportive > bibliographic source of my opinion,... > Oh hey, just kiddin'! ! of course.... > Mike Hudson '67 -Stroker / 5-Speed,..........KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI, > Zip Code 64145 > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net> > To: "'Eddie'" ; "'Mark Mussari'" > > Cc: > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 5:05 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Trying to decide on an oil > > >> So we should all go out and buy Checkers? >> >> Sorry, but my driving habits are a bit different than a cabs. They >> never >> shut down and rack up mileage in a hurry. And they rarely hit highway >> speeds. >> >> IMHO, >> >> Paul From sandhoff at csus.edu Fri Aug 13 17:01:01 2010 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:01:01 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Trying to decide on an oil References: <2B8E10B1DB4C49F0B6E16974141B4C41@STEVE> Message-ID: <4C656C3D.15488.110F9978@localhost> Google "zddp". Modern engine oils have changed to match modern engines. YMMV, of course, but I'm going to do all I can to protect my 40 year old tappets... -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From umccullough at gmail.com Fri Aug 13 17:02:57 2010 From: umccullough at gmail.com (Urias McCullough) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:02:57 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Trying to decide on an oil In-Reply-To: <2B8E10B1DB4C49F0B6E16974141B4C41@STEVE> References: <3BB75B60-5406-4F67-933E-69FE4F194F65@universalprintingco.com> <2B8E10B1DB4C49F0B6E16974141B4C41@STEVE> Message-ID: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Stephen E. Webber wrote: > My 93 Ford Explorer has over 280,000 miles on it. Gets over 3000 miles per > quart, often 5000 miles depending on driving. I have used whatever the > local parts store has on sale, Exxon, Shell, Castrol, Vasoline, etc. Eh, my 95 Nissan Maxima gets no love from me - 300k miles, I use Valvoline 10-30W and sometimes waits 20k miles between changes (I don't take care of that car). Only engine issue I've ever had was a failed injector, completely unrelated. If you're looking for oil with ZDDP additive, I hear Mobil 1 15-40W still has it, but I haven't done my research. - Urias From cookefam314 at gmail.com Fri Aug 13 17:05:27 2010 From: cookefam314 at gmail.com (Dave Cooke) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 18:05:27 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Trying to decide on an oil In-Reply-To: <4C65C77C.9040309@socal.rr.com> References: <3BB75B60-5406-4F67-933E-69FE4F194F65@universalprintingco.com> <2B8E10B1DB4C49F0B6E16974141B4C41@STEVE> <006201cb3b2f$fe3e2b60$faba8220$@net> <4C65C77C.9040309@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: With all this talk of motor oil, what about motor oil weights? I think I'm currently using 5w30, but was wondering if there's a better choice for here in the Midwest & the fact that my 1600 motor burns & leaks this stuff... Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Eddie wrote: > "The key thing every one of them did was change the oil every 3k-5k miles." > > The end doesn't necessarily justify the means... or something like that. > > There's something else to consider... is it that the changing of the oil that made the difference, or the overall maintenance? People who meticulously change the oil every 3,000 miles may also be more likely to do all the OTHER maintenance on a regular basis as well. That OTHER maintenance has an effect on engine wear. > Someone who is meticulous on all maintenance but changes the oil every 6,000 miles may have the same engine wear results. > According to the consumer reports study, changing the oil more frequently had NO NOTICEABLE effect on the wear. NONE. Cars that were run for 9,000 mile oil change intervals had the SAME wear as cars with a 3,000 mile change interval. > > Eddie > > > > > > > Pete Peters wrote: >> The key thing every one of them did was change the oil every 3k-5k miles. >> >> Pete >> ________________________________________ >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/cookefam314 at gmail.com From datsun67vette06 at sbcglobal.net Fri Aug 13 18:18:55 2010 From: datsun67vette06 at sbcglobal.net (Kerry Dehmel) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:18:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster/Vette? In-Reply-To: <592479.99208.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <592479.99208.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <819702.99057.qm@web83807.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> For someone that has both ----- No body should try to mix the two... Way different cars and you do an injustice to both!!! Kerry Dehmel Fresno, CA 1967.5 Datsun Roadster -- 1600 Blue 2006 Corvette Coupe-- Monterey red ________________________________ From: Gary Callahan To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, August 12, 2010 10:11:41 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster/Vette? I'm sorry; I just barfed a little bit in my mouth! ;~) Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 --- On Thu, 8/12/10, Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote: From: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster/Vette? To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 8:05 AM http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/cto/1858638629.html Not bad from the front but I'm not to sure about the tail? Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcallahan at prodigy.net ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/datsun67vette06 at sbcglobal.net From lmflaming at comcast.net Fri Aug 13 18:55:23 2010 From: lmflaming at comcast.net (lmflaming at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 00:55:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster/Vette? In-Reply-To: <819702.99057.qm@web83807.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1563573047.1132592.1281747323568.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I have an AC Cobra that has been built on a wrecked 74corvette that has a 454 with Edlebrock Dual Quads on it. The whole car is Corvette except the interior and the body. I made the whole interior out of aluminum so it is totally custom. I have the best of both worlds. If anyone wants to see it go toB B flaming-enterprises.com. I hear the same comments that no one should mix the 2 but it's fun to create new things out of damaged items. 500 HP and loving it. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Dehmel" To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 6:18:55 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster/Vette? For someone that has both ----- No body should try to mix the two... B Way different cars and you do an injustice to both!!! B Kerry Dehmel Fresno, CA 1967.5 Datsun Roadster -- 1600 Blue 2006 B Corvette Coupe-- B Monterey red ________________________________ From: Gary Callahan To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, August 12, 2010 10:11:41 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster/Vette? I'm sorry; I just barfed a little bit in my mouth! B ;~) Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 --- On Thu, 8/12/10, Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote: From: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster/Vette? To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 8:05 AM http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/cto/1858638629.html B B Not bad from the front but I'm not to sure about the tail? Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation B $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcallahan at prodigy.net ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation B $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/datsun67vette06 at sbcglo bal.net ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation B $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/lmflaming at comcast.net From vlaury at roadrunner.com Fri Aug 13 19:48:21 2010 From: vlaury at roadrunner.com (Victor Laury) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 18:48:21 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] I wonder what this could be? Message-ID: I stopped by Upgrade Motoring in the valley today and these mysterious boxes appeared in the back of my truck! hummmm...... http://images43.fotki.com/v680/photos/4/42214/3400541/fushiginabakone-vi.jpg See you at the JCCS! datsunvic - los angeles From oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com Sat Aug 14 01:34:00 2010 From: oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com (Matthew Cox) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 00:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Selling my '68 1600 Message-ID: <831911.73275.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hey all! Among other things in preperation of my move, I am selling my '68 1600 project car. Attached is the craigslist listing if anyone is interested. https://accounts.craigslist.org/post/shwpst?pii=1894318809&db=lv I also have a complete rear clip for '66 roadster for sale on Phoenix craigslist for just $100. Just let me know if anyone has any questions! Matthew... From tputland at charter.net Sat Aug 14 05:36:43 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 4:36:43 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Selling my '68 1600 In-Reply-To: <831911.73275.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20100814073643.XVKLK.9879390.root@mp18> The link you provided is for your account log in............. -- ---- Matthew Cox wrote: ============= Hey all! Among other things in preperation of my move, I am selling my '68 1600 project car. Attached is the craigslist listing if anyone is interested. https://accounts.craigslist.org/post/shwpst?pii=1894318809&db=lv I also have a complete rear clip for '66 roadster for sale on Phoenix craigslist for just $100. Just let me know if anyone has any questions! Matthew... ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From classicautorecycling at yahoo.com Sat Aug 14 10:56:22 2010 From: classicautorecycling at yahoo.com (classicautorecycling at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 12:56:22 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: Fw: 1966 SPL311 Parts References: <795641.49080.qm@web120102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: "classicautorecycling at yahoo.com" To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Aug 11, 2010 03:36:22 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: 1966 SPL311 parting out of NY Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: N W To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" Sent: Fri, Jul 2, 2010 06:43:10 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Roadsters] 1966 SPL311 parting out of NY Parts for sale Alternator Distributor Radiator Radiator aupport Radiator hoses top and bottom Overflow tank Airbox with filter Intake with su carbs Fuel pump Fuel sending unit Filler neck with breather hose Gas tank Gas tank straps J hooks Sending unit trunk cover Center console Glove box Glove box door Glove box door lock Tachometer Fuel gauge Amp gauge Water temp gauge Oil pressure gauge Clock Dash Switches-- Lights, fog, wiper, heat Choke cable Speedometer cable sheath Tach cable Ignition with key Dimmer Driver Seat Pass. Seat Steering wheel Horn button 14" steel wheels Wiper arms Wiper motor Water pump Thermostat Thermostat housing Fan Fan pulley Hardtop Hood Doors Door Windows Quarter windows Quarter window holder driver Quarter window pivots driver Quarter window frame driver Window regulators Roll up handles Door handles outside Door handles inside Door pull handles Door locks Door shut latch Bodyside door shut latch Door hinges Front grille Vent grille Trunk Trunk garnish Fenders Trunk open hold bars Seat belts Headlights Headlight buckets Front directionals and bezels Tail light housings and bezels Antenna Door sill plates Rocker sill plates Inside rocker trim 6 pieces Engine internals 4 speed transmission Driveshaft Header In.ex. Gasket Starter motor Check out pics @ picasaweb.google.com/101278287028344322083 I'm happy to answer any questions. Thanks, Patrick ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/classicautorecycling at y ahoo.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/classicautorecycling at y ahoo.com From wrenchorhammer at live.com Sat Aug 14 13:42:47 2010 From: wrenchorhammer at live.com (Jim In Virginia) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 15:42:47 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Parting out 1965 SPL 311 02178 in Chesapeake Virginia Message-ID: For All, I am parting out this car. It has no engine, trans, or much interior left, and I am keeping the front fenders and most of the rear of the body. If anyone wants anything else, let me know and I will look and see if that part is there and if it is any good. If so, I would sell it to any list member for little more than the cost of postage....or you can come over and take it off yourself and just donate a few dollars to my roadster/510/boat fund. If you want a particular part and are not sure if the part I have is a good match, I can take a picture and send it to you. Act fast, my plan is to take most of what I dont keep to the scrap yard next weekend and get the scrap steel price for it. Best Regards, Jim 67 pushrod 2L 5spd 72 510 Sportwagon Project 96 Miata "M" daily driver 2010 Ford F-250 old school regular cab 6 spd stick XLT From rksmith46 at hotmail.com Sat Aug 14 21:45:53 2010 From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 23:45:53 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Trying to decide on an oil In-Reply-To: References: , <3BB75B60-5406-4F67-933E-69FE4F194F65@universalprintingco.com>, <2B8E10B1DB4C49F0B6E16974141B4C41@STEVE>, <006201cb3b2f$fe3e2b60$faba8220$@net> <4C65C77C.9040309@socal.rr.com>, Message-ID: hi dave, ive been using 20w-50 oil in my roadster for approx. 40 yrs. ive found it stays in an engine that has a "rope seal" for the rear main oil seal. thats my humble opinion. bob smith, ohio 69 srl311 > From: cookefam314 at gmail.com > Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 18:05:27 -0500 > To: eddietude at socal.rr.com > CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Trying to decide on an oil > > With all this talk of motor oil, what about motor oil weights? I think I'm > currently using 5w30, but was wondering if there's a better choice for here in > the Midwest & the fact that my 1600 motor burns & leaks this stuff... > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 13, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Eddie wrote: > > > "The key thing every one of them did was change the oil every 3k-5k miles." > > > > The end doesn't necessarily justify the means... or something like that. > > > > There's something else to consider... is it that the changing of the oil > that made the difference, or the overall maintenance? People who meticulously > change the oil every 3,000 miles may also be more likely to do all the OTHER > maintenance on a regular basis as well. That OTHER maintenance has an effect > on engine wear. > > Someone who is meticulous on all maintenance but changes the oil every 6,000 > miles may have the same engine wear results. > > According to the consumer reports study, changing the oil more frequently > had NO NOTICEABLE effect on the wear. NONE. Cars that were run for 9,000 > mile oil change intervals had the SAME wear as cars with a 3,000 mile change > interval. > > > > Eddie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pete Peters wrote: > >> The key thing every one of them did was change the oil every 3k-5k miles. > >> > >> Pete > >> ________________________________________ > >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com > > ________________________________________ > > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/cookefam314 at gmail.com > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rksmith46 at hotmail.com From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 14 21:58:53 2010 From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 20:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] I wonder what this could be? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <81583.24108.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cmon Victor, you gotta post some pics! The suspense is killing me. Promise I won't drool! --- On Fri, 8/13/10, Victor Laury wrote: From: Victor Laury Subject: [Roadsters] I wonder what this could be? To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net, lauryv at metro.net, "'JCCS Operations'" , "'Sales'" Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 6:48 PM I stopped by Upgrade Motoring in the valley today and these mysterious boxes appeared in the back of my truck! hummmm...... http://images43.fotki.com/v680/photos/4/42214/3400541/fushiginabakone-vi.jpg See you at the JCCS! datsunvic - los angeles ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tomet9 at sbcglobal.net From jklingman at stny.rr.com Wed Aug 11 11:50:26 2010 From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 13:50:26 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Petty infighting References: <665791.32842.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4C62C510.1010702@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: We are lurkers, enjoy the posts and learn a lot. Don't have a problem with items for sale, providing sources for parts and Datsun items is a super plus. That is talking about Roadsters! Have paid way too much for a part we needed and was glad to pay it, so price isn't the issue. Don't like petty infighting and sniping either. Blocking the email address was a personal choice, finalized by his last password included in his post, F--kOff#2. Posted our solution only as a option. Returning to the shadows. Gloria and John Klingman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" To: "Jim Gammon" Cc: "Datsun roadster" Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Petty infighting > Jim, > > You forgot a few other reasons. > > 3) Forum Subject Gods. In every forum, there are those who think they are > the end all, be all know it all about the subject of the forum. Usually > these pathetic people have nothing else going on in their lives, and their > entire existence or "being" is wrapped up in that one subject. In this > case, the subject being "Datsun Roadsters". > > 4) Sense of Entitlement. Many times, this is coupled with #3. As a > "expert" these people think they should get everything for free, or at a > "discount" over others. Like somehow their "advanced knowledge" entitles > them to things over other roadster owners. > As for "talking roadsters".... again, someone posting they have parts for > sale IS talking roadsters. It's letting the community know he has parts > for sale. > To further the irony, right after a select few here got their panties in a > bunch, someone posted they needed a specific part. Yet the very person > who HAS what they need has been unceremoniously booted from the list, thus > doing a disservice to the entire community. Someone show me the logic in > that... > > Again, let's be real and honest. The issue wasn't his posting the parts. > It was the prices. IF he'd posted stuff cheap, those who got upset > wouldn't care in the least. They got upset because they didn't like his > prices... again, sense of entitlement... > > Not stirring up trouble, just keeping it REAL. > Eddie > > > > > Jim Gammon wrote: >> I lurk. >> I don't see any reason for a forum such as this to have any petty >> infighting. >> But I have been on many such lists, and it crops up from time to time. >> It is ALWAYS the result of two things: >> 1. The lack of being able to see and understand each other as we speak >> (or >> conversely a lack of communications skills - either expression or >> comprehension) >> 2. Thin skinned people (or conversely petty people who have nothing >> better to >> do than make trouble where none exists.) >> So lighten up, leave the insults at the door and talk roadsters. >> JimG NJ 69 2K >> slipping back into lurk mode..... >> ________________________________________ >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/jklingman at stny.rr.com From lmflaming at comcast.net Wed Aug 11 11:07:46 2010 From: lmflaming at comcast.net (lmflaming at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:07:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Petty infighting In-Reply-To: <46638631.1010394.1281545905952.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <419489827.1011109.1281546466961.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Hi everyone I'm new to this site, I only joined a few days ago. I have a 66 that I am trying to restore or just get it on the road for now. It is for my wife, it was love at first sight when she saw one. I kind of got hooked on these cars myself and bought a another 66,69 and 70 to part out to help restoreB her 66. I was not impressed with some of the p eople that are sending the negative emails around. I to am selling parts on ebay under lmflaming. Sometimes I dont have any idea what to charge or what is real sought after or what is worthless as I have onlyB owned these cars for 1 year. I deleted the email that had the 3/8-24 threaded part that the person needed but I have extras I'm sure and will give it to him if I have it. Larry Denver 303-923-5800B B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" To: "Jim Gammon" Cc: "Datsun roadster" Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 9:43:12 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Petty infighting Jim, You forgot a few other reasons. 3) Forum Subject Gods. B In every forum, there are those who think they are the end all, be all know it all about the subject of the forum. B Usually these pathetic people have nothing else going on in their lives, and their entire existence or "being" is wrapped up in that one subject. B In this case, the subject being "Datsun Roadsters". 4) Sense of Entitlement. B Many times, this is coupled with #3. B As a "expert" these people think they should get everything for free, or at a "discount" over others. B Like somehow their "advanced knowledge" entitles them to things over other roadster owners. B As for "talking roadsters".... again, someone posting they have parts for sale IS talking roadsters. B It's letting the community know he has parts for sale. To further the irony, right after a select few here got their panties in a bunch, someone posted they needed a specific part. B Yet the very person who HAS what they need has been unceremoniously booted from the list, thus doing a disservice to the entire community. B Someone show me the logic in that... Again, let's be real and honest. B The issue wasn't his posting the parts. B It was the prices. B IF he'd posted stuff cheap, those who got upset wouldn't care in the least. B They got upset because they didn't like his prices... again, sense of entitlement... Not stirring up trouble, just keeping it REAL. Eddie Jim Gammon wrote: > I lurk. > B > I don't see any reason for a forum such as this to have any petty infighting. > But I have been on many such lists, and it crops up from time to time. > B > It is ALWAYS the result of two things: > B > 1. The lack of being able to see and understand each other as we speak (or > conversely a lack of communications skills - either expression or > comprehension) > B > 2. Thin skinned people (or conversely petty people who have nothing better to > do than make trouble where none exists.) > B > So lighten up, leave the insults at the door and talk roadsters. > B > JimG NJ 69 2K > slipping back into lurk mode..... > B > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation B $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation B $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/lmflaming at comcast.net From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Aug 11 23:36:01 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 22:36:01 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] My two cents...then a nice Datsun story... Message-ID: <00d101cb39e0$40557130$c1005390$@net> IMO, what started out as a simple request, hey, can you not post so often? rapidly went downhill and away from that simple request. Blame it on the heat, the economy, politics, sun spots, bad home training, whatever. I dont think anyone wanted the parts seller to be banned, just restrain their postings, which were frequent enough to take on the persona of Viagra, Nigerian banking scams, etcand none of us want that. Moving on.... Im in the middle of gutting the basement, so no roadster stuff, but how about a nice Datsun story posted on the Bluebirds list by Carter, a super nice guy? Pete -------------------------------- I have been away on business for a couple of weeks and while away, I found a set of 280zxt snowflakes for sale which I was looking for before I left. I was excited to get back home and make contact with the seller and arrange a time to come pick them up. That time was last night so after work, I drove the 1 1/2 hours out to Oak Harbor to pick them up. Besides the lady who almost ran into me by changing lanes without looking and then a guy in a 4x4 that did the same thing to the Audi in front of me about 100 yards later on the ship canal bridge - it was a beautiful evening and traffic was light so the drive was nice. Had one guy driving circles around my car while going south on I5 before finally taking a couple photos with his phone and then hitting the gas. When I got to the guy's house he had a nice yellow 240z facing me from the garage. He had a few more out back too. Nice guy and obviously has a love for Datsuns. He had a 4dr 510 way back in the day and would never have believed at the time that people would be following them today. Said he literally beat that thing into the ground (with a big smile on his face). So it was late in the evening now and I headed back home so I turned on my headlights. I noticed the temp gage started to push up higher than usual so I started watching with much interest. I paid the toll for the Tacoma Narrows bridge and pushed on and the temp held steady. I cranked up the heater to pull some heat out of the coolant and had to have the window down and vent full open to avoid cooking myself! I had checked the coolant level recently and there was no sign of problems when I had the hood open at the guys house as we showed each other our motors so I didn't bother pulling over somewhere for more water. Pretty uneventful trip home despite the high temp reading, which held steady (and my attention) all the way home. I was however made aware that my right rear blinker and brake light stopped working somewhere along the trip as well. This morning I checked the coolant and it was full. I checked the rear taillight and the red wire to the housing appears to have melted some time ago and the conductors were all exposed and corroded. I re-made the connection a few times and got my lights back for now. I'll have to fix that for real later. My drive in to work this morning had no high temps. Even with the high temp reading stress and taillight failure it was sure a nice night for a 3 hour drive! Met another nice enthusiast and came home with another treasure. I have been all over the state getting little bits here and there. Sometimes a car, sometimes a part, always a story and always a good time. Thanks for sharing in the fun guys! --carter Oh, and I got a voice message while I was on my trip from some lady looking for parts. Turns out she is the original owner of a 71 510 just north of me. She has put over 350k miles on her car, replaced the motor once, and was in the middle of having a shop replace a melted fuse box for her. I advised her that the new fuse box may fix her lighting issues she was having but am excited to call her again and get some more information/stories/etc. From lmflaming at comcast.net Sun Aug 15 10:30:39 2010 From: lmflaming at comcast.net (lmflaming at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 16:30:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Petty infighting In-Reply-To: <1997890167.1170892.1281888603405.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <264186385.1171439.1281889839180.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Gary I went to one of their meetings last summer and met a lot of them and B am a member now. T hey don't update teir web sight very much so I th ink we need a small group in the denver area that stays in contact with each other. Last week I met a person with a 67 that lives a cou[ple of miles from me. I enjoy ed talking to him . I probably met you then, I drove the yellow primer AC Cobra to the meeting. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Boone" To: lmflaming at comcast.net Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 9:22:47 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Petty infighting Hi Larry, Are you aware of WYCROC?B Go to http://www.wycroc.com You could probably get some help from some locals on estimating part values. Gary Cheyenne B ----- Original Message ---- From: "lmflaming at comcast.net" To: Eddie Cc: Datsun roadster Sent: Wed, August 11, 2010 11:07:46 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Petty infighting Hi everyone I'm new to this site, I only joined a few days ago. I have a 66 that I am trying to restore or just get it on the road for now. It is for my wife, it was love at first sight when she saw one. I kind of got hooked on these cars myself and bought a another 66,69 and 70 to part out to help restoreB her 66. I was not impressed with some of the p eople that are sending the negative emails around. I to am selling parts on ebay under lmflaming. Sometimes I dont have any idea what to charge or what is real sought after or what is worthless as I have onlyB owned these cars for 1 year. I deleted the email that had the 3/8-24 threaded part that the person needed but I have extras I'm sure and will give it to him if I have it. Larry Denver 303-923-5800B B From joedatsun at att.net Sun Aug 15 12:53:14 2010 From: joedatsun at att.net (Brian Parks) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:53:14 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] moved to Plano TX- Message-ID: I just moved my roadster to Plano TX and am looking to connect with some folks down here. If you are so inclined to get together to swap lies and talk roadsters please contact me at joedatsun at att.net Brian Parks 67 1/2 1600 From keithddowning at yahoo.com Sun Aug 15 13:40:00 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] moved to Plano TX- Message-ID: <478992.30942.qm@web83302.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> You are keeping the roadster population of north Tx in balance. I just flew out in February and bought a '68 SRL311 and brought it back to So. Cal. From keithddowning at yahoo.com Sun Aug 15 14:29:46 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] moved to Plano TX- In-Reply-To: References: <478992.30942.qm@web83302.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <911277.98444.qm@web83301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> No, I bought it from Thomas Dupree. This is the only one he had AFAIK. BTW - I lived in Frisco from 2005 - 2007, which made the trip back nice. Keith ________________________________ From: richard bush To: keithddowning at yahoo.com Sent: Sun, August 15, 2010 12:52:37 PM Subject: RE: [Roadsters] moved to Plano TX- Keith Did you buy your car from the guy who is moving to New Zealand? R A Bush, P O Box 500003 Dubai, UAE; cell: ++971 50 456 4357 > Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:40:00 -0700 > From: keithddowning at yahoo.com > To: joedatsun at att.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] moved to Plano TX- > > You are keeping the roadster population of north Tx in balance. I just flew out >in February and bought a '68 SRL311 and brought it back to So. Cal. > > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rabush2000 at hotmail.com From loisandjeff at gmail.com Sun Aug 15 19:14:50 2010 From: loisandjeff at gmail.com (Jeff and Lois Holder) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 18:14:50 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Under dash Voltage regulator Message-ID: <162C6FB6-294B-4BC1-8427-D49626AC874D@gmail.com> Hi group. I'm new to the list serve and to roadster restoration. I've been working on my 67.5 1600 for 3 years. I am ready to get it registered but I need to make sure everything is working correctly. At present my fuel level gauge and temperature gauges are not working. I have a new temperature sending unit and two fuel level sending units (neither make a difference) so I think the sending units are working. My wiring diagram shows that these gauges and all going back to a voltage regulator under the dash. I am at a loss at finding the regulator since I don't know what I'm looking for. Anyone know where the regulator looks like and where it may be located? Thank for any help I can get. Jeff Holder From antonywardle at gmail.com Sun Aug 15 20:24:30 2010 From: antonywardle at gmail.com (antony wardle) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 12:24:30 +1000 Subject: [Roadsters] Under dash Voltage regulator In-Reply-To: <162C6FB6-294B-4BC1-8427-D49626AC874D@gmail.com> References: <162C6FB6-294B-4BC1-8427-D49626AC874D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi I have the same thing with my identical datto. You might find that the earth isn't very good. In any case, those gauges don't need to be working to register your car, just piece of mind for not running out of gas or getting too hot. kiwi On 16 August 2010 11:14, Jeff and Lois Holder wrote: > Hi group. > > I'm new to the list serve and to roadster restoration. I've been working on > my > 67.5 1600 for 3 years. I am ready to get it registered but I need to make > sure > everything is working correctly. At present my fuel level gauge and > temperature gauges are not working. I have a new temperature sending unit > and > two fuel level sending units (neither make a difference) so I think the > sending units are working. My wiring diagram shows that these gauges and > all > going back to a voltage regulator under the dash. I am at a loss at finding > the regulator since I don't know what I'm looking for. Anyone know where > the > regulator looks like and where it may be located? > > Thank for any help I can get. > > Jeff Holder > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/antonywardle at gmail.com From loisandjeff at gmail.com Sun Aug 15 20:38:25 2010 From: loisandjeff at gmail.com (Jeff and Lois Holder) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 19:38:25 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Voltage Regulator Message-ID: <230B3302-252F-4127-B513-C9D87336F246@gmail.com> I found it. It was right where you guys said it would be. Thanks. The terminals are clean. I need to see if it still works. Thanks again From tputland at charter.net Mon Aug 16 05:55:17 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 4:55:17 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank sealing and fuel lines In-Reply-To: <20100813091424.0M6PP.9928071.root@mp06> Message-ID: <20100816075517.MPIRR.9928459.root@mp18> Thanks to most of you who replied. I had truly never heard of the products that can effectively seal the inside of a gas tank, be reliable in the process, and also not degrade with gasoline exposure. I did not do any research on this as I knew this was one project that I was going to have done professional. I was mainly looking for options and opinions. Hopefully I can get away with just blowing out the main fuel line. I don't want to have to mess with running a line the length of the frame. To those of you who replied, more or less in the negative-- directly to just me or to the list as well--with comments thinking I was an idiot for asking what I did about the sealant, well, you know what you can do. Tim Dairyland Datsuns ---- Tim wrote: ============= I pulled the gas tank from my second part car yesterday. It is in great shape on the outside but I still want to get it boiled out and sealed. My question pertains to the sealing process. I asssume it is the inside that is sealed, but what do they use and does this degrade over time because of the expsosure to the gas? Also, once I pull the tank from my running 1600 to replace it, would blowing out the fuel lines be enough, or should I go ahead and replace them as well? Thanks Tim Dairyland Datsuns ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From 9laser3 at bright.net Mon Aug 16 07:35:35 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 09:35:35 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] OT travels to Canada? Message-ID: <001301cb3d47$e8e7f880$bab7e980$@net> Looked at a dozen web sites and now I'm more confused than ever. Any US citizens that have gone up to Canada and back, what ID did you need to get into Canada and then back into the US? Paul Ohio From ronnie.day at gmail.com Mon Aug 16 07:45:50 2010 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 08:45:50 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT travels to Canada? In-Reply-To: <001301cb3d47$e8e7f880$bab7e980$@net> References: <001301cb3d47$e8e7f880$bab7e980$@net> Message-ID: > Paul > B Looked at a dozen web sites and now I'm more confused than ever. B Any US > citizens that have gone up to Canada and back, what ID did you need to get > into Canada and then back into the US? > Paul, I'm pretty sure that you need a passport these days, even for travel to Canada and Mexico. Guess you can call INS or the State Department. Most likely the info will be on the web. Ron From ljordan704 at netscape.net Mon Aug 16 08:12:49 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 10:12:49 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank sealing and fuel lines In-Reply-To: <20100816075517.MPIRR.9928459.root@mp18> Message-ID: <8CD0B643E01CAE1-2024-34E59@webmail-d077.sysops.aol.com> Gas Tank Renu has a lifetime warranty so I don't think they expect it to deteriorate too quickly. www.gastankrenu.com Linda -----Original Message----- From: Tim To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Sent: Mon, Aug 16, 2010 4:55 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Gas tank sealing and fuel lines Thanks to most of you who replied. I had truly never heard of the products that can effectively seal the inside of a gas tank, be reliable in the process, and also not degrade with gasoline exposure. I did not do any research on this as I knew this was one project that I was going to have done professional. I was mainly looking for options and opinions. Hopefully I can get away with just blowing out the main fuel line. I don't want to have to mess with running a line the length of the frame. To those of you who replied, more or less in the negative-- directly to just me or to the list as well--with comments thinking I was an idiot for asking what I did about the sealant, well, you know what you can do. Tim Dairyland Datsuns ---- Tim wrote: ============= I pulled the gas tank from my second part car yesterday. It is in great shape on the outside but I still want to get it boiled out and sealed. My question pertains to the sealing process. I asssume it is the inside that is sealed, but what do they use and does this degrade over time because of the expsosure to the gas? Also, once I pull the tank from my running 1600 to replace it, would blowing out the fuel lines be enough, or should I go ahead and replace them as well? Thanks Tim Dairyland Datsuns ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From ncoonen at fastbears.com Mon Aug 16 08:42:17 2010 From: ncoonen at fastbears.com (ncoonen at fastbears.com) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 10:42:17 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] OT travels to Canada? In-Reply-To: <001301cb3d47$e8e7f880$bab7e980$@net> References: <001301cb3d47$e8e7f880$bab7e980$@net> Message-ID: <20100816104217.27363gd98qteynnt@webmail.fastbears.com> You need a passport these days to enter the US. The requirement went in to effect a couple of years ago. ...ned. '69 2000 Quoting Paul <9laser3 at bright.net>: > Looked at a dozen web sites and now I'm more confused than ever. Any US > citizens that have gone up to Canada and back, what ID did you need to get > into Canada and then back into the US? > > > > Paul > > Ohio > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ncoonen at fastbears.com From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Aug 16 08:42:59 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 07:42:59 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT travels to Canada? In-Reply-To: References: <001301cb3d47$e8e7f880$bab7e980$@net> Message-ID: <004d01cb3d51$5388a320$fa99e960$@net> Correct. A passport or equivalent (NEXUS or U.S. Passport Card) is required for US citizens traveling to/from Canada. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ronnie Day Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 6:46 AM To: Paul Cc: datsun-roadsters Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT travels to Canada? > Paul > B Looked at a dozen web sites and now I'm more confused than ever. B Any US > citizens that have gone up to Canada and back, what ID did you need to get > into Canada and then back into the US? > Paul, I'm pretty sure that you need a passport these days, even for travel to Canada and Mexico. Guess you can call INS or the State Department. Most likely the info will be on the web. Ron ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From 9laser3 at bright.net Mon Aug 16 09:10:22 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 11:10:22 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] OT Canada travel Message-ID: <003301cb3d55$28370500$78a50f00$@net> I guess I should have said we were driving, NOT flying. I know to fly into the US you need a passport. But I thought after the passport offices got flooded with requests and the Canadian government threw a fit, they changed the driving over the border requirements? A few suggested I call a government office? Why would I want to call and get even more confused! "I'm from the government and I'm here to help." The original oxymoron. So, has anyone driven across the border lately? Paul Ohio From tputland at charter.net Mon Aug 16 09:29:16 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 8:29:16 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank sealing and fuel lines In-Reply-To: <4C695236.7020301@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <20100816112916.2FLZZ.3499726.root@mp14> Here is an example of the kind of off list chicken shit crap I get from little eddie in California....... Direct from the horse's ass: ---- Eddie wrote: Then ask questions that can be answered and stop acting like a moron... unless of course you can't help it. Tim wrote: > Please stop replying to my posts that are asking for information. > > Thank you. > > Tim > > > ---- Eddie wrote: > > ============= > What do they use and does this degrade over time because of the > expsosure to the gas? > > "What do they use?" Depends on the process and the company. There are > several products out there to seal a vehicle. This is like asking what > fabric to people wear. There are multiple options. > > "Does it degrade over time because of the exposure to gas" Not if you > use the right stuff. Only an idiot would use something in a gas tank > that degrades due to exposure to gas. That would kind of defeat the > purpose, don't you think? > > Eddie > > > Tim wrote: > >> I pulled the gas tank from my second part car yesterday. It is in great shape on the outside but I still want to get it boiled out and sealed. >> >> My question pertains to the sealing process. I asssume it is the inside that is sealed, but what do they use and does this degrade over time because of the expsosure to the gas? >> >> Also, once I pull the tank from my running 1600 to replace it, would blowing out the fuel lines be enough, or should I go ahead and replace them as well? >> >> Thanks >> >> Tim >> Dairyland Datsuns >> ________________________________________ >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Aug 16 09:33:35 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 08:33:35 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT Canada travel In-Reply-To: <003301cb3d55$28370500$78a50f00$@net> References: <003301cb3d55$28370500$78a50f00$@net> Message-ID: <005901cb3d58$64b6a960$2e23fc20$@net> Fly, drive, walk....doesn't matter. You need a passport or US Passport card. Started years ago and became non-negotiable in June. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 8:10 AM To: 'datsun-roadsters' Subject: [Roadsters] OT Canada travel I guess I should have said we were driving, NOT flying. I know to fly into the US you need a passport. But I thought after the passport offices got flooded with requests and the Canadian government threw a fit, they changed the driving over the border requirements? A few suggested I call a government office? Why would I want to call and get even more confused! "I'm from the government and I'm here to help." The original oxymoron. So, has anyone driven across the border lately? Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net Mon Aug 16 09:37:37 2010 From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 09:37:37 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] OT travels to Canada? Message-ID: <380-220108116153737594@earthlink.net> Paul, Pete's response is correct. Dewey in Montana > [Original Message] > From: Pete Peters > To: Datsun Roadster List > Date: 8/16/2010 8:42:49 AM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT travels to Canada? > > Correct. A passport or equivalent (NEXUS or U.S. Passport Card) is required > for US citizens traveling to/from Canada. > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ronnie Day > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 6:46 AM > To: Paul > Cc: datsun-roadsters > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT travels to Canada? > > > Paul > > > B Looked at a dozen web sites and now I'm more confused than ever. B Any > US > > citizens that have gone up to Canada and back, what ID did you need to get > > into Canada and then back into the US? > > > Paul, I'm pretty sure that you need a passport these days, even for > travel to Canada and Mexico. Guess you can call INS or the State > Department. Most likely the info will be on the web. > > Ron > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne > t > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/hahlbohmd at earthlink.n et From d_kroninger at hotmail.com Mon Aug 16 09:40:14 2010 From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 10:40:14 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT Canada travel In-Reply-To: <005901cb3d58$64b6a960$2e23fc20$@net> References: <003301cb3d55$28370500$78a50f00$@net>, <005901cb3d58$64b6a960$2e23fc20$@net> Message-ID: I thought Billy Mays was the original Oxy(clean)Moron? Sorry, I had too. > From: ppeters914 at comcast.net > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 08:33:35 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT Canada travel > > Fly, drive, walk....doesn't matter. You need a passport or US Passport card. > Started years ago and became non-negotiable in June. > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 8:10 AM > To: 'datsun-roadsters' > Subject: [Roadsters] OT Canada travel > > I guess I should have said we were driving, NOT flying. I know to fly > into the US you need a passport. But I thought after the passport offices > got flooded with requests and the Canadian government threw a fit, they > changed the driving over the border requirements? > > > > A few suggested I call a government office? Why would I want to call and > get even more confused! "I'm from the government and I'm here to help." > The original oxymoron. > > > > So, has anyone driven across the border lately? > > > > Paul > > Ohio > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne > t > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/d_kroninger at hotmail.co m From eddietude at socal.rr.com Mon Aug 16 09:41:23 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 08:41:23 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank sealing and fuel lines In-Reply-To: <20100816112916.2FLZZ.3499726.root@mp14> References: <20100816112916.2FLZZ.3499726.root@mp14> Message-ID: <4C695C23.60907@socal.rr.com> This from the guy who keeps emailing me off list claiming he "wants to avoid drama on the list". Yet now he feels the need to forward my emails to the list LMAO Tim, you're such a hypocrite! Thanks for proving my point. I just KNEW you couldn't resist and would post my reply. You're so predictable. BTW, I'd forward your several posts with similar comments on them, but I can't be bothered... LMAO Eddie Tim wrote: > Here is an example of the kind of off list chicken shit crap I get from little eddie in California....... > > Direct from the horse's ass: > > ---- Eddie wrote: > > Then ask questions that can be answered and stop acting like a moron... > unless of course you can't help it. > > Tim wrote: > >> Please stop replying to my posts that are asking for information. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Tim >> >> >> ---- Eddie wrote: >> >> ============= >> What do they use and does this degrade over time because of the >> expsosure to the gas? >> >> "What do they use?" Depends on the process and the company. There are >> several products out there to seal a vehicle. This is like asking what >> fabric to people wear. There are multiple options. >> >> "Does it degrade over time because of the exposure to gas" Not if you >> use the right stuff. Only an idiot would use something in a gas tank >> that degrades due to exposure to gas. That would kind of defeat the >> purpose, don't you think? >> >> Eddie >> >> >> Tim wrote: >> >> >>> I pulled the gas tank from my second part car yesterday. It is in great shape on the outside but I still want to get it boiled out and sealed. >>> >>> My question pertains to the sealing process. I asssume it is the inside that is sealed, but what do they use and does this degrade over time because of the expsosure to the gas? >>> >>> Also, once I pull the tank from my running 1600 to replace it, would blowing out the fuel lines be enough, or should I go ahead and replace them as well? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Tim >>> Dairyland Datsuns >>> ________________________________________ >>> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com >>> > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From 9laser3 at bright.net Mon Aug 16 09:44:38 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 11:44:38 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Passport or Card IS required! Message-ID: <005501cb3d59$efeab070$cfc01150$@net> Thanks for all the replies. Looks like I'll be canceling my plans to head up to Wawa in October. Paul Ohio From jklingman at stny.rr.com Mon Aug 16 09:50:42 2010 From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 11:50:42 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] gas tank sealing Message-ID: <0402980E948B404799A2045F4B9DD45F@yourhryuc9xa71> Linda suggested Moyer Gas Tank Renu as an option, it is one I am considering. Several friends with classic cars and motorcycles have used Moyer and are more than pleased. It is more than a sealing process, it involves removing and sending them your gas tank. They rebuild, recondition, and sealing/lining with a lifetime warranty never to rust again, inside or out. Quoted about $300 for my roadster tank. If you are keeping your car forever, then it could be a good investment. Gloria From sandhoff at csus.edu Mon Aug 16 10:50:48 2010 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 09:50:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Under dash Voltage regulator In-Reply-To: <162C6FB6-294B-4BC1-8427-D49626AC874D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4C6909F8.10132.44548D@localhost> > ...At present my fuel level gauge and temperature gauges are not > working... My wiring diagram shows that these gauges and all > going back to a voltage regulator under the dash. Hi Jeff, It sounds like you've now located the voltage regulator. So here's some troubleshooting tips. This is a bimetallic strip/heater that creates a pulsing voltage of zero and battery (nominal +12 to +13.2). Three terminals, but only two are wires as the case is the third wire and is grounded. If the ground is bad (case not mounted, corrosion on case/screw, etc), the voltage will stay high and the gauges will read way high. If the two wires are reversed, the gauge will start to come off zero briefly (a few seconds), then fall back and stay at zero. Troubleshooting: With ignition ON, check for steady +12v on one terminal. That's the input. If it's missing, the problem is upstream (bad wire, fuse, etc). Then check the other terminal for pulsing voltage. If you have it, problem is downstream (since both gauges are dead, unlikely two bad gauges, so a bad wire). No pulsing? To check for reversed wires, simply... reverse the wires. If you disconnect both wires, you should read near zero ohms across the two terminals of the regulator. If you don't the internal contacts aren't making contact (bad regulator). -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From cookefam314 at gmail.com Mon Aug 16 11:22:45 2010 From: cookefam314 at gmail.com (Dave Cooke) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 12:22:45 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Smoker? Message-ID: My 68 1600 has recently started smoking more than usual out of the tailpipe. It's always ran with a bit of exhaust smoke, but usually after warm up, it would only smoke a bit when taking off at an intersection after waiting for a light. Now, it's smoking all the time! So, looking for a little help diagnosing this issue... Here's what she looks & sounds like today - http://gallery.me.com/cookefam314/100178/Smoker She runs fine, carbs are adjusted & plugs look tan, no backfire, plenty of acceleration. The smoke does leave a chalky black dry residue, it's not wet or oily, and it wipes off the tailpipe easily. Dave Cooke Lake in the Hills, IL From shas1983 at netzero.net Mon Aug 16 11:30:23 2010 From: shas1983 at netzero.net (shas1983 at netzero.net) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 17:30:23 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] Ignition voltage or polarity issues Message-ID: <20100816.103023.24919.0@webmail12.dca.untd.com> Anyone had experiance with voltage/polarity problems at the distributor? I know the negative lead from the coil is supposed to go to the distributor, but for whatever reason the car seems to run better with the polarity reversed at the coil. Is there another point where the wiring could be reversed causing this or possibly a component failure? The ignition seems to break down under load either way. I am running a new MSD coil, so I do not believe this is the problem. I am suspicious there is another problem that has not been addressed. ____________________________________________________________ HR Certificate Online SHRM Approved Human resources Certificate Program. Learn More Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4c6975f769946705ff4st05duc From RWM at RWMann.com Mon Aug 16 11:33:43 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 13:33:43 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Smoker? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C697677.5040803@RWMann.com> Looks like rings -- or did someone oil your SuperTrapp? Dave Cooke wrote: > My 68 1600 has recently started smoking more than usual out of the tailpipe. > It's always ran with a bit of exhaust smoke, but usually after warm up, it > would only smoke a bit when taking off at an intersection after waiting for > a light. > Now, it's smoking all the time! So, looking for a little help diagnosing > this issue... > > Here's what she looks & sounds like today - > http://gallery.me.com/cookefam314/100178/Smoker > > She runs fine, carbs are adjusted & plugs look tan, no backfire, plenty of > acceleration. > The smoke does leave a chalky black dry residue, it's not wet or oily, and > it wipes off the tailpipe easily. > > Dave Cooke > Lake in the Hills, IL From gcallahan at prodigy.net Mon Aug 16 11:38:17 2010 From: gcallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 10:38:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] OT travels to Canada? In-Reply-To: <001301cb3d47$e8e7f880$bab7e980$@net> Message-ID: <716372.16982.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://www.getyouhome.gov/html/lang_eng/index.html The above site seems to be fairly clear. Are you driving your Roadster into Canada? Have fun! Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 --- On Mon, 8/16/10, Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote: From: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> Subject: [Roadsters] OT travels to Canada? To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 6:35 AM Looked at a dozen web sites and now I'm more confused than ever. Any US citizens that have gone up to Canada and back, what ID did you need to get into Canada and then back into the US? Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcallahan at prodigy.net From tputland at charter.net Mon Aug 16 11:43:38 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 10:43:38 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Smoker? Message-ID: <20100816134338.VD34U.3506747.root@mp14> Would the fact that Dave is running 5w30 have anything to do with this? Tim ---- RWM wrote: ============= Looks like rings -- or did someone oil your SuperTrapp? Dave Cooke wrote: > My 68 1600 has recently started smoking more than usual out of the tailpipe. > It's always ran with a bit of exhaust smoke, but usually after warm up, it > would only smoke a bit when taking off at an intersection after waiting for > a light. > Now, it's smoking all the time! So, looking for a little help diagnosing > this issue... > > Here's what she looks & sounds like today - > http://gallery.me.com/cookefam314/100178/Smoker > > She runs fine, carbs are adjusted & plugs look tan, no backfire, plenty of > acceleration. > The smoke does leave a chalky black dry residue, it's not wet or oily, and > it wipes off the tailpipe easily. > > Dave Cooke > Lake in the Hills, IL ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From 9laser3 at bright.net Mon Aug 16 11:59:08 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 13:59:08 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] OT travels to Canada? In-Reply-To: <716372.16982.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <001301cb3d47$e8e7f880$bab7e980$@net> <716372.16982.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00b001cb3d6c$baa06ff0$2fe14fd0$@net> So all I need is $20 to bribe the post office, $35 for the state department, and $60 to expedite them to do their jobs in a timely manner. Oh yeah, I'll need to bribe the state of Ohio to get a certified copy of my birth certificate and California to get a copy of the wife's. Then head to a photo shop for pictures (none in the county I live in, YEAH!). OR, .. We could do it the easy way and just drive up to Wawa, enjoy a week on the shore of Lake Superior, then fly back to Mexico, and walk across the border into Arizona! Michigan's UP is looking better all the time. Paul From: Gary Callahan [mailto:gcallahan at prodigy.net] Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:38 PM To: 'datsun-roadsters'; Paul Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT travels to Canada? http://www.getyouhome.gov/html/lang_eng/index.html The above site seems to be fairly clear. Are you driving your Roadster into Canada? Have fun! Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 --- On Mon, 8/16/10, Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote: From: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> Subject: [Roadsters] OT travels to Canada? To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 6:35 AM Looked at a dozen web sites and now I'm more confused than ever. Any US citizens that have gone up to Canada and back, what ID did you need to get into Canada and then back into the US? Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcallahan at prodigy.net From rekeen at mtu.edu Mon Aug 16 12:38:00 2010 From: rekeen at mtu.edu (Robert Keen) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:38:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] OT travels to Canada? In-Reply-To: <00b001cb3d6c$baa06ff0$2fe14fd0$@net> References: <001301cb3d47$e8e7f880$bab7e980$@net> <716372.16982.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <00b001cb3d6c$baa06ff0$2fe14fd0$@net> Message-ID: Paul- Because I'm a resident of the UP, I think you could do worse than to bring youself here for a while! Michigan has an "enhanced driver's licence" that makes crossing the Canadian/US border a bit easier. Too bad you're in Ohio. (As I recall, Ohio's unofficial state motto is "At least we aren't Michigan".) --Bob Keen 68 1600 Chassell, U.P., MI ============================= On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Paul wrote: > So all I need is $20 to bribe the post office, $35 for the state > department, and $60 to expedite them to do their jobs in a timely manner. > Oh yeah, I'll need to bribe the state of Ohio to get a certified copy of my > birth certificate and California to get a copy of the wife's. Then head to > a photo shop for pictures (none in the county I live in, YEAH!). > > > > OR, .. We could do it the easy way and just drive up to Wawa, enjoy a week > on the shore of Lake Superior, then fly back to Mexico, and walk across the > border into Arizona! > > > > Michigan's UP is looking better all the time. > > > > Paul > > > > From: Gary Callahan [mailto:gcallahan at prodigy.net] > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:38 PM > To: 'datsun-roadsters'; Paul > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT travels to Canada? > > > > > http://www.getyouhome.gov/html/lang_eng/index.html > > > > The above site seems to be fairly clear. Are you driving your Roadster into > Canada? Have fun! > > > > > > Gary Callahan > Beaverton, Oregon > > > > 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster > SPL311-18665 > > > > --- On Mon, 8/16/10, Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote: > > > From: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> > Subject: [Roadsters] OT travels to Canada? > To: "'datsun-roadsters'" > Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 6:35 AM > > Looked at a dozen web sites and now I'm more confused than ever. Any US > citizens that have gone up to Canada and back, what ID did you need to get > into Canada and then back into the US? > > > > Paul > > Ohio > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > t> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcallahan at prodigy.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rekeen at mtu.edu From Brad at lustigconsultingllc.com Mon Aug 16 13:44:18 2010 From: Brad at lustigconsultingllc.com (Brad Lustig (brad@lustigconsultingllc.com)) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:44:18 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Smoker? In-Reply-To: <20100816134338.VD34U.3506747.root@mp14> References: <20100816134338.VD34U.3506747.root@mp14> Message-ID: <191D00BEB7748342820D55C9DBF97EEE470288E294@LCLLC-SERVER.lcllc.local> What color smoke? White, black/gray or blue? Have you done a compression test? I associate black dry soot to running rich. Brad -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:44 PM To: 'Datsun Roadster List'; RWM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoker? Would the fact that Dave is running 5w30 have anything to do with this? Tim ---- RWM wrote: ============= Looks like rings -- or did someone oil your SuperTrapp? Dave Cooke wrote: > My 68 1600 has recently started smoking more than usual out of the tailpipe. > It's always ran with a bit of exhaust smoke, but usually after warm up, it > would only smoke a bit when taking off at an intersection after waiting for > a light. > Now, it's smoking all the time! So, looking for a little help diagnosing > this issue... > > Here's what she looks & sounds like today - > http://gallery.me.com/cookefam314/100178/Smoker > > She runs fine, carbs are adjusted & plugs look tan, no backfire, plenty of > acceleration. > The smoke does leave a chalky black dry residue, it's not wet or oily, and > it wipes off the tailpipe easily. > > Dave Cooke > Lake in the Hills, IL ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/brad at lustigconsultingl lc.com From RWM at RWMann.com Mon Aug 16 13:51:47 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:51:47 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Smoker? In-Reply-To: <191D00BEB7748342820D55C9DBF97EEE470288E294@LCLLC-SERVER.lcllc.local> References: <20100816134338.VD34U.3506747.root@mp14> <191D00BEB7748342820D55C9DBF97EEE470288E294@LCLLC-SERVER.lcllc.local> Message-ID: <4C6996D3.6040501@RWMann.com> Looks blue, on the pedal and off, hence the reference to rings. Brad Lustig (brad at lustigconsultingllc.com) wrote: > What color smoke? White, black/gray or blue? Have you done a compression > test? I associate black dry soot to running rich. > Brad > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:44 PM > To: 'Datsun Roadster List'; RWM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoker? > > Would the fact that Dave is running 5w30 have anything to do with this? > > Tim > > > ---- RWM wrote: > > ============= > Looks like rings -- or did someone oil your SuperTrapp? > > > > Dave Cooke wrote: > >> My 68 1600 has recently started smoking more than usual out of the >> > tailpipe. > >> It's always ran with a bit of exhaust smoke, but usually after warm up, it >> would only smoke a bit when taking off at an intersection after waiting for >> a light. >> Now, it's smoking all the time! So, looking for a little help diagnosing >> this issue... >> >> Here's what she looks & sounds like today - >> http://gallery.me.com/cookefam314/100178/Smoker >> >> She runs fine, carbs are adjusted & plugs look tan, no backfire, plenty of >> acceleration. >> The smoke does leave a chalky black dry residue, it's not wet or oily, and >> it wipes off the tailpipe easily. >> >> Dave Cooke >> Lake in the Hills, IL From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com Mon Aug 16 15:40:53 2010 From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:40:53 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1966 1600 FS Message-ID: http://spokane.craigslist.org/ctd/1902280426.html This link was sent to me by a friend. Hope it's what someone is looking for. I think it's located in Tacoma, WA. Greg SRL31100494 Spokane, WA From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com Mon Aug 16 15:42:53 2010 From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:42:53 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster sighting Message-ID: Nice looking silver Roadster headed Eastbound on I-90 in Spokane, WA about 11am Saturday. Anyone on the List? Greg SRL31100494 Spokane, WA From sandhoff at csus.edu Mon Aug 16 16:35:21 2010 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:35:21 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1966 1600 FS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4C695AB9.2306.17FC5C9@localhost> > This link was sent to me by a friend. > http://spokane.craigslist.org/ctd/1902280426.html Maybe I'm nuts, but isn't the oil filter upside down??? -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From cookefam314 at gmail.com Mon Aug 16 17:05:40 2010 From: cookefam314 at gmail.com (Dave Cooke) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 18:05:40 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Smoker? In-Reply-To: <05D05C9AAFC545718F5EBA118ECA61F8@lap120> References: <05D05C9AAFC545718F5EBA118ECA61F8@lap120> Message-ID: OK, Mike, this can't be good news... this evenings Compression test results Cylinder 1- 200 2- 70 3- 180 4- 190 Cylinder with oil 1-220 2-75 3-195 4-205 -Dave Cooke On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 1:48 PM, MH wrote: > Start by EZ & cheap.... > Do a standard compression check,....1st..without a squirt of oil in each > cylinder, ...2nd WITH a squirt of oil in each cylinder. Tell us what you > get. > Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Cooke" > To: > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 12:22 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoker? > > > My 68 1600 has recently started smoking more than usual out of the >> tailpipe. >> It's always ran with a bit of exhaust smoke, but usually after warm up, it >> would only smoke a bit when taking off at an intersection after waiting >> for >> a light. >> Now, it's smoking all the time! So, looking for a little help diagnosing >> this issue... >> >> Here's what she looks & sounds like today - >> http://gallery.me.com/cookefam314/100178/Smoker >> >> She runs fine, carbs are adjusted & plugs look tan, no backfire, plenty of >> acceleration. >> The smoke does leave a chalky black dry residue, it's not wet or oily, and >> it wipes off the tailpipe easily. >> >> Dave Cooke >> Lake in the Hills, IL >> ________________________________________ >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/twobeaners at earthlink.net >> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3075 - Release Date: 08/16/10 > 01:35:00 > > -- Dave Cooke Roadster owner since '83 Lake in the Hills, IL Chicagoland Chapter of the Dairyland Datsuns From oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com Mon Aug 16 17:20:05 2010 From: oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com (Matthew Cox) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 1966 1600 FS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <463388.19208.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yow! Shouldn't the lift be on the chassis and not the floor pans? --- On Mon, 8/16/10, Gregory S. Morrison wrote: http://spokane.craigslist.org/ctd/1902280426.html This link was sent to me by a friend. Hope it's what someone is looking for. I think it's located in Tacoma, WA. Greg SRL31100494 Spokane, WA From umccullough at gmail.com Mon Aug 16 17:21:43 2010 From: umccullough at gmail.com (Urias McCullough) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:21:43 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1966 1600 FS In-Reply-To: <463388.19208.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <463388.19208.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Matthew Cox wrote: > Yow! Shouldn't the lift be on the chassis and not the floor pans? Looks like in that last pic, that the lift is on the mounting braces: http://www.idsclserver.com/premiummotors/img/6406.jpg From eddietude at socal.rr.com Mon Aug 16 17:44:02 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:44:02 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1966 1600 FS In-Reply-To: <463388.19208.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <463388.19208.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C69CD42.9000008@socal.rr.com> My thoughts exactly! Though the hole for the jack is in the rocker, so technically it's probably ok to lift the car they way they did... Eddie Matthew Cox wrote: > Yow! Shouldn't the lift be on the chassis and not the floor pans? > > --- On Mon, 8/16/10, Gregory S. Morrison wrote: > > > > http://spokane.craigslist.org/ctd/1902280426.html > > > > This link was sent to me by a friend. Hope it's what someone is looking for. > I think it's located in Tacoma, WA. > > Greg > SRL31100494 > Spokane, WA > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From eddietude at socal.rr.com Mon Aug 16 17:45:32 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:45:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Smoker? In-Reply-To: References: <05D05C9AAFC545718F5EBA118ECA61F8@lap120> Message-ID: <4C69CD9C.7090107@socal.rr.com> compression should be close to equal in all cylinders. Clearly #2 has an issue. It could be rings, OR it could be a bad valve too. Perhaps a valve isn't seating properly. If you're lucky, it might be just that. Eddie Dave Cooke wrote: > OK, Mike, this can't be good news... > > this evenings Compression test results > > Cylinder > 1- 200 > 2- 70 > 3- 180 > 4- 190 > > Cylinder with oil > 1-220 > 2-75 > 3-195 > 4-205 > > -Dave Cooke > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 1:48 PM, MH wrote: > > >> Start by EZ & cheap.... >> Do a standard compression check,....1st..without a squirt of oil in each >> cylinder, ...2nd WITH a squirt of oil in each cylinder. Tell us what you >> get. >> Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Cooke" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 12:22 PM >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoker? >> >> >> My 68 1600 has recently started smoking more than usual out of the >> >>> tailpipe. >>> It's always ran with a bit of exhaust smoke, but usually after warm up, it >>> would only smoke a bit when taking off at an intersection after waiting >>> for >>> a light. >>> Now, it's smoking all the time! So, looking for a little help diagnosing >>> this issue... >>> >>> Here's what she looks & sounds like today - >>> http://gallery.me.com/cookefam314/100178/Smoker >>> >>> She runs fine, carbs are adjusted & plugs look tan, no backfire, plenty of >>> acceleration. >>> The smoke does leave a chalky black dry residue, it's not wet or oily, and >>> it wipes off the tailpipe easily. >>> >>> Dave Cooke >>> Lake in the Hills, IL >>> ________________________________________ >>> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/twobeaners at earthlink.net >>> >>> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3075 - Release Date: 08/16/10 >> 01:35:00 From umccullough at gmail.com Mon Aug 16 17:51:36 2010 From: umccullough at gmail.com (Urias McCullough) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:51:36 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Smoker? In-Reply-To: <4C69CD9C.7090107@socal.rr.com> References: <05D05C9AAFC545718F5EBA118ECA61F8@lap120> <4C69CD9C.7090107@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Eddie wrote: > compression should be close to equal in all cylinders. > > Clearly #2 has an issue. It could be rings, OR it could be a bad valve too. > > Perhaps a valve isn't seating properly. If you're lucky, it might be just > that. Usually, adding oil the cylinder demonstrates if it is rings if it significantly increases compression - so I would guess either a valve or head gasket (more likely the former). - Urias From aultgc at att.net Mon Aug 16 20:23:02 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 21:23:02 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Passport or Card IS required! References: <005501cb3d59$efeab070$cfc01150$@net> Message-ID: <964D08FBB28D4083902AF35439BAEDA7@gaxp1> Paul, It's only August. You should be able to get a passport by October. I believe, for an additional fee, you can get it expedited. When my wife and I were in Alaska two summers ago, we took the Whitehorse Railway up into the mountains, and turned around at the Canadian border 00 but insdie Canada by a couple of hundred meters. Yep. Passport required. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net> To: "bluebirds" ; "'datsun-roadsters'" Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 10:44 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Passport or Card IS required! > Thanks for all the replies. Looks like I'll be canceling my plans to > head > up to Wawa in October. > > > > Paul > > Ohio > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From aultgc at att.net Mon Aug 16 20:27:14 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 21:27:14 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Ignition voltage or polarity issues References: <20100816.103023.24919.0@webmail12.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <2DA4C35926434A2EB4C0FDD9192F6508@gaxp1> It is the negative terminal on the coil which goes to the terminal on the distributor. But, that "negative" terminal on the coil should show +12V relative to ground. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 12:30 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Ignition voltage or polarity issues > Anyone had experiance with voltage/polarity problems at the distributor? I > know the negative lead from the coil is supposed to go to the distributor, > but > for whatever reason the car seems to run better with the polarity reversed > at > the coil. Is there another point where the wiring could be reversed > causing > this or possibly a component failure? The ignition seems to break down > under > load either way. I am running a new MSD coil, so I do not believe this is > the > problem. I am suspicious there is another problem that has not been > addressed. > ____________________________________________________________ > HR Certificate Online > SHRM Approved Human resources Certificate Program. Learn More Now! > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4c6975f769946705ff4st05duc > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From banshee16 at starband.net Mon Aug 16 20:28:13 2010 From: banshee16 at starband.net (Marcus Pryor) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:28:13 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Smoker? In-Reply-To: References: <05D05C9AAFC545718F5EBA118ECA61F8@lap120> <4C69CD9C.7090107@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Do a leakdown test on the engine to be sure. The leak can be located much better than with a compression test. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Urias McCullough wrote: > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Eddie wrote: > > compression should be close to equal in all cylinders. > > > > Clearly #2 has an issue. It could be rings, OR it could be a bad valve > too. > > > > Perhaps a valve isn't seating properly. If you're lucky, it might be > just > > that. > > Usually, adding oil the cylinder demonstrates if it is rings if it > significantly increases compression - so I would guess either a valve > or head gasket (more likely the former). > > - Urias > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/banshee16 at starband.net From aultgc at att.net Mon Aug 16 20:29:45 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 21:29:45 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT travels to Canada? References: <001301cb3d47$e8e7f880$bab7e980$@net><716372.16982.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <00b001cb3d6c$baa06ff0$2fe14fd0$@net> Message-ID: <2BC5B7F574C54701BE8CF44CD84ECC9C@gaxp1> Paul, Don't count on your convoluted travel plans working. The Feds can't catch terrorists, foreign criminals, or illegal immigrants, but you'll get caught. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net> To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Cc: "bluebirds" Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 12:59 PM Subject: [Roadsters] OT travels to Canada? > So all I need is $20 to bribe the post office, $35 for the state > department, and $60 to expedite them to do their jobs in a timely manner. > Oh yeah, I'll need to bribe the state of Ohio to get a certified copy of > my > birth certificate and California to get a copy of the wife's. Then head > to > a photo shop for pictures (none in the county I live in, YEAH!). > > > > OR, .. We could do it the easy way and just drive up to Wawa, enjoy a week > on the shore of Lake Superior, then fly back to Mexico, and walk across > the > border into Arizona! > > > > Michigan's UP is looking better all the time. > > > > Paul > > > > From: Gary Callahan [mailto:gcallahan at prodigy.net] > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:38 PM > To: 'datsun-roadsters'; Paul > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT travels to Canada? > > > > > http://www.getyouhome.gov/html/lang_eng/index.html > > > > The above site seems to be fairly clear. Are you driving your Roadster > into > Canada? Have fun! > > > > > > Gary Callahan > Beaverton, Oregon > > > > 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster > SPL311-18665 > > > > --- On Mon, 8/16/10, Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote: > > > From: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> > Subject: [Roadsters] OT travels to Canada? > To: "'datsun-roadsters'" > Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 6:35 AM > > Looked at a dozen web sites and now I'm more confused than ever. Any US > citizens that have gone up to Canada and back, what ID did you need to get > into Canada and then back into the US? > > > > Paul > > Ohio > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > t> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcallahan at prodigy.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From dave at ranteer.com Mon Aug 16 21:08:24 2010 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 22:08:24 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] [SPAM] Re: Ignition voltage or polarity issues In-Reply-To: <2DA4C35926434A2EB4C0FDD9192F6508@gaxp1> References: <20100816.103023.24919.0@webmail12.dca.untd.com> <2DA4C35926434A2EB4C0FDD9192F6508@gaxp1> Message-ID: check the coil. I have ordered two different msd coils for two different cars; each time they were for a car with a resistor. neither car had one. the first I gave up on; the second I figured out and sent back. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 9:27 PM To: ; Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Roadsters] Ignition voltage or polarity issues > It is the negative terminal on the coil which goes to the terminal on the > distributor. But, that "negative" terminal on the coil should show +12V > relative to ground. > > Gary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 12:30 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Ignition voltage or polarity issues > > >> Anyone had experiance with voltage/polarity problems at the distributor? >> I >> know the negative lead from the coil is supposed to go to the >> distributor, but >> for whatever reason the car seems to run better with the polarity >> reversed at >> the coil. Is there another point where the wiring could be reversed >> causing >> this or possibly a component failure? The ignition seems to break down >> under >> load either way. I am running a new MSD coil, so I do not believe this is >> the >> problem. I am suspicious there is another problem that has not been >> addressed. From loisandjeff at gmail.com Mon Aug 16 21:40:25 2010 From: loisandjeff at gmail.com (Jeff and Lois Holder) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:40:25 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open Message-ID: HI guys, Thanks for the help with the voltage regulator. Everything is working now. But I have another problem. I took it out for its maiden drive a couple of days ago. I drove around for several miles then stopped for gas. When I started going again, the gas peddle was "heavy" and hard to smoothly accelerate. I took it out today several times for short trips with no problems. I then drove it about ten miles and stop for a bit. When I started up again, the gas pedal was heavy but this time the throttle stuck open and wouldn't go back to idle. My guess is that when I stopped the engine temperature rose and the linkage expanded. Was I supposed to use a lubricant on the linkage? Any ideas. Jeff Holder From SConway at fielders.com.au Mon Aug 16 21:54:01 2010 From: SConway at fielders.com.au (Sam Conway) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 13:24:01 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <09E4074C0F830C458934327282278BF00530DF6F@EDWEXVS01.hills.hillsad.com> Jeff, You should only ever drive the car on full throttle all the time even through the city That's how these cars sound the best, I found a bright red and blue lights strapped to the top of the car help to clear the traffic Check the return spring you may need to fit a second one, having the accelerator linkage hot would not have expanded to cause any of these issues. Also preventative Maintenance helps to ensure that your car stays healthy Regards Samuel Conway National Quality and Process Engineer -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeff and Lois Holder Sent: Tuesday, 17 August 2010 1:10 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open HI guys, Thanks for the help with the voltage regulator. Everything is working now. But I have another problem. I took it out for its maiden drive a couple of days ago. I drove around for several miles then stopped for gas. When I started going again, the gas peddle was "heavy" and hard to smoothly accelerate. I took it out today several times for short trips with no problems. I then drove it about ten miles and stop for a bit. When I started up again, the gas pedal was heavy but this time the throttle stuck open and wouldn't go back to idle. My guess is that when I stopped the engine temperature rose and the linkage expanded. Was I supposed to use a lubricant on the linkage? Any ideas. Jeff Holder ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/sconway at fielders. com.au From dave at eastcoastroadster.com Mon Aug 16 22:38:54 2010 From: dave at eastcoastroadster.com (dave) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 00:38:54 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Smoker? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <7B2232FD4E4F4E11975A765D105DD7EE@delled48909442> It could be worse if the compression on #2 jumped way up with the oil. Were it me, first I'd adjust the valves, or just loosen up #2 intake and exhaust a bit to be sure and try again, wet and dry. Next step is get #2 to TDC valves closed remove the radiator cap and all spark plugs and put some shop air pressure, about 50-75 Psi in there and listen for the air leaking. Note for those who haven't done this before, the engine will turn if it's not at TDC, sometimes putting it in top gear with the brake on will hold it from turning, but be aware the car may move. If there is air hissing at the oil cap or if the dipstick launches out and lands in the yard somewhere, suspect rings. Rest is pretty intuitive, hissing at tail pipe, exhaust valve, at carbs intake valve, bubbling in coolant or blowing out an adjacent sparkplug hole, headgasket. IMHO, 5w30 is a bit thin, I use Rotella (15w50, IIRC) Hope for the best Dave Dave wrote OK, Mike, this can't be good news... this evenings Compression test results Cylinder 1- 200 2- 70 3- 180 4- 190 Cylinder with oil 1-220 2-75 3-195 4-205 - From dave at eastcoastroadster.com Mon Aug 16 22:45:08 2010 From: dave at eastcoastroadster.com (dave) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 00:45:08 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Ignition voltage or polarity issues In-Reply-To: <2DA4C35926434A2EB4C0FDD9192F6508@gaxp1> Message-ID: <5D059CA7E0104DC18D75F2320AB18140@delled48909442> The coil resistance is important. Can you post or email me the part # you are using? Also, a bad condenser can do all kinds of odd things. Reversed polarity is generally not a good thing. What kind of condition are the cap rotor and wires in? This can be a big factor in the amount of secondary voltage needed to fire the plug. If the voltage requirement gets too high, the spark will find an easier path to ground, sometimes right down the side of the coil. My phone is 908-591-9892, evenings if I can be of any help Dave Brisco East Coast Roadster -----Original Message----- From: Gary and Cindy Ault [mailto:aultgc at att.net] Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 10:27 PM To: shas1983 at netzero.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ignition voltage or polarity issues It is the negative terminal on the coil which goes to the terminal on the distributor. But, that "negative" terminal on the coil should show +12V relative to ground. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 12:30 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Ignition voltage or polarity issues > Anyone had experiance with voltage/polarity problems at the distributor? I > know the negative lead from the coil is supposed to go to the distributor, > but > for whatever reason the car seems to run better with the polarity reversed > at > the coil. Is there another point where the wiring could be reversed > causing > this or possibly a component failure? The ignition seems to break down > under > load either way. I am running a new MSD coil, so I do not believe this is > the > problem. I am suspicious there is another problem that has not been > addressed. > ____________________________________________________________ > HR Certificate Online > SHRM Approved Human resources Certificate Program. Learn More Now! > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4c6975f769946705ff4st05duc > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From aultgc at att.net Mon Aug 16 23:02:40 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 00:02:40 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas tank sealing and fuel lines References: <20100816112916.2FLZZ.3499726.root@mp14> Message-ID: <6FD07792882A4777AEDDFA7F38876199@gaxp1> Tim, Eddie is on my "Blocked Senders" list, so I don't see his posts. His response to you is no surprise. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Gas tank sealing and fuel lines > Here is an example of the kind of off list chicken shit crap I get from > little eddie in California....... > > Direct from the horse's ass: > > ---- Eddie wrote: > > Then ask questions that can be answered and stop acting like a moron... > unless of course you can't help it. > > Tim wrote: >> Please stop replying to my posts that are asking for information. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Tim >> >> >> ---- Eddie wrote: >> >> ============= >> What do they use and does this degrade over time because of the >> expsosure to the gas? >> >> "What do they use?" Depends on the process and the company. There are >> several products out there to seal a vehicle. This is like asking what >> fabric to people wear. There are multiple options. >> >> "Does it degrade over time because of the exposure to gas" Not if you >> use the right stuff. Only an idiot would use something in a gas tank >> that degrades due to exposure to gas. That would kind of defeat the >> purpose, don't you think? >> >> Eddie >> >> >> Tim wrote: >> >>> I pulled the gas tank from my second part car yesterday. It is in great >>> shape on the outside but I still want to get it boiled out and sealed. >>> >>> My question pertains to the sealing process. I asssume it is the inside >>> that is sealed, but what do they use and does this degrade over time >>> because of the expsosure to the gas? >>> >>> Also, once I pull the tank from my running 1600 to replace it, would >>> blowing out the fuel lines be enough, or should I go ahead and replace >>> them as well? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Tim >>> Dairyland Datsuns >>> ________________________________________ >>> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From aultgc at att.net Mon Aug 16 23:05:28 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 00:05:28 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Smoker? References: <20100816134338.VD34U.3506747.root@mp14> Message-ID: <3109341C07284BBDA6558968E5DC1D52@gaxp1> Tim, Not likely. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "'Datsun Roadster List'" ; "RWM" Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoker? > Would the fact that Dave is running 5w30 have anything to do with this? > > Tim > > > ---- RWM wrote: > > ============= > Looks like rings -- or did someone oil your SuperTrapp? > > > > Dave Cooke wrote: >> My 68 1600 has recently started smoking more than usual out of the >> tailpipe. >> It's always ran with a bit of exhaust smoke, but usually after warm up, >> it >> would only smoke a bit when taking off at an intersection after waiting >> for >> a light. >> Now, it's smoking all the time! So, looking for a little help diagnosing >> this issue... >> >> Here's what she looks & sounds like today - >> http://gallery.me.com/cookefam314/100178/Smoker >> >> She runs fine, carbs are adjusted & plugs look tan, no backfire, plenty >> of >> acceleration. >> The smoke does leave a chalky black dry residue, it's not wet or oily, >> and >> it wipes off the tailpipe easily. >> >> Dave Cooke >> Lake in the Hills, IL > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From plhbauman at earthlink.net Mon Aug 16 23:26:07 2010 From: plhbauman at earthlink.net (Paul Bauman) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 22:26:07 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1282022767.31595.10.camel@harlie.localdomain> Jeff: Check the battery/frame/engine ground. Make sure you don't have a missing ground strap anywhere. If you lose ground to the engine, the path the battery finds back to itself is through the throttle cable. They can get sticky, or as happened to me, the throttle got sticky, then the cable finally spot welded itself to the inside of the sheath and that was that. HTH Paul Bauman Westminster, CA 67 1600 -----Original Message----- From: Jeff and Lois Holder To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:40:25 -0700 HI guys, Thanks for the help with the voltage regulator. Everything is working now. But I have another problem. I took it out for its maiden drive a couple of days ago. I drove around for several miles then stopped for gas. When I started going again, the gas peddle was "heavy" and hard to smoothly accelerate. I took it out today several times for short trips with no problems. I then drove it about ten miles and stop for a bit. When I started up again, the gas pedal was heavy but this time the throttle stuck open and wouldn't go back to idle. My guess is that when I stopped the engine temperature rose and the linkage expanded. Was I supposed to use a lubricant on the linkage? Any ideas. Jeff Holder From plhbauman at earthlink.net Mon Aug 16 23:46:33 2010 From: plhbauman at earthlink.net (Paul Bauman) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 22:46:33 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open In-Reply-To: References: ,<1282022767.31595.10.camel@harlie.localdomain> Message-ID: <1282023993.31595.16.camel@harlie.localdomain> I never figured it out exactly, but yes, that's about it. The current load is particularly high when you crank the starter and that's when it finally froze up on me. Ever since I strapped the negative battery terminal to a bolt on the frame and from that bolt to the engine, I never had another problem with well-done throttle cables. Paul -----Original Message----- From: peter harrison To: plhbauman at earthlink.net Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 22:38:53 -0700 wow - really - never would have thought of THAT one - so - throttle cable to brake pedal to body ?? Peter > From: plhbauman at earthlink.net > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 22:26:07 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open > > Jeff: > > Check the battery/frame/engine ground. Make sure you don't have a > missing ground strap anywhere. If you lose ground to the engine, the > path the battery finds back to itself is through the throttle cable. > They can get sticky, or as happened to me, the throttle got sticky, then > the cable finally spot welded itself to the inside of the sheath and > that was that. > > HTH > > Paul Bauman > Westminster, CA > 67 1600 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff and Lois Holder > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:40:25 -0700 > > HI guys, > > Thanks for the help with the voltage regulator. Everything is working now. But > I have another problem. > > I took it out for its maiden drive a couple of days ago. I drove around for > several miles then stopped for gas. When I started going again, the gas peddle > was "heavy" and hard to smoothly accelerate. I took it out today several times > for short trips with no problems. I then drove it about ten miles and stop for > a bit. When I started up again, the gas pedal was heavy but this time the > throttle stuck open and wouldn't go back to idle. > > My guess is that when I stopped the engine temperature rose and the linkage > expanded. Was I supposed to use a lubricant on the linkage? Any ideas. > > Jeff Holder From kemp_l at hotmail.com Mon Aug 16 23:55:03 2010 From: kemp_l at hotmail.com (Kemp LaMunyon Sr.) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 22:55:03 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT travels to Canada? In-Reply-To: <004d01cb3d51$5388a320$fa99e960$@net> References: <001301cb3d47$e8e7f880$bab7e980$@net>, , <004d01cb3d51$5388a320$fa99e960$@net> Message-ID: I thought washington state had a drivers liscense that work for going over the boarder to canada. You pay an extra fee for the enhanced version of the Washington drivers liscense. They called it enhance or something? http://www.dol.wa.gov/about/news/priorities/edl.html Thanks Kemp > From: ppeters914 at comcast.net > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 07:42:59 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT travels to Canada? > > Correct. A passport or equivalent (NEXUS or U.S. Passport Card) is required > for US citizens traveling to/from Canada. > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ronnie Day > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 6:46 AM > To: Paul > Cc: datsun-roadsters > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT travels to Canada? > > > Paul > > > B Looked at a dozen web sites and now I'm more confused than ever. B Any > US > > citizens that have gone up to Canada and back, what ID did you need to get > > into Canada and then back into the US? > > > Paul, I'm pretty sure that you need a passport these days, even for > travel to Canada and Mexico. Guess you can call INS or the State > Department. Most likely the info will be on the web. > > Ron > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne > t > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/kemp_l at hotmail.com From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Tue Aug 17 00:01:35 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 23:01:35 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fun - but tiring Message-ID: Saturday got up at 5:30 - off to Riverside for a SOCALROC run to Big Bear for a car show (mostly rods - not my thing - but beautifully designed, executed and painted) - saw a teal that would look great on a roadster. then a bbq at the Dicksons and then to Monterey for day 3 of the historics - like Joseph and Mary - NO accomodation to be found between Paso Robles and Salinas. Finally slept in the car @ 3AM (thank god for mazda reclining seats) under a tree to stop the mist from settling and helped by the soporific effects of Mr Smirnoff. Watched all the races except for the F1 final and drove back to LA. Speedo indicates 900 miles driven in 2 days. One of the race cars was a Zagato bodied DB4 - totally polished aluminum (and flawless) - value - in excess of $2 MILLION - and he was RACING it - great couple of days. Peter (Eliza - TOAD SAN) PPS - can we please stop the online feuding - just fight in private. From gsglasgow at comcast.net Tue Aug 17 00:41:19 2010 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 23:41:19 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open In-Reply-To: <1282023993.31595.16.camel@harlie.localdomain> References: ,<1282022767.31595.10.camel@harlie.localdomain> <1282023993.31595.16.camel@harlie.localdomain> Message-ID: <000601cb3dd7$339dbe70$9ad93b50$@net> I had the same thing happen to me. I finally figured it out when I had the hood up and saw smoke coming up off the throttle cable when I was cranking the engine! ("Hmmm, I don't remember seeing the throttle cable in the wiring diagram....") Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Bauman Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 10:47 PM To: Autox Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open I never figured it out exactly, but yes, that's about it. The current load is particularly high when you crank the starter and that's when it finally froze up on me. Ever since I strapped the negative battery terminal to a bolt on the frame and from that bolt to the engine, I never had another problem with well-done throttle cables. Paul -----Original Message----- From: peter harrison To: plhbauman at earthlink.net Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 22:38:53 -0700 wow - really - never would have thought of THAT one - so - throttle cable to brake pedal to body ?? Peter > From: plhbauman at earthlink.net > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 22:26:07 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open > > Jeff: > > Check the battery/frame/engine ground. Make sure you don't have a > missing ground strap anywhere. If you lose ground to the engine, the > path the battery finds back to itself is through the throttle cable. > They can get sticky, or as happened to me, the throttle got sticky, then > the cable finally spot welded itself to the inside of the sheath and > that was that. > > HTH > > Paul Bauman > Westminster, CA > 67 1600 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff and Lois Holder > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:40:25 -0700 > > HI guys, > > Thanks for the help with the voltage regulator. Everything is working now. But > I have another problem. > > I took it out for its maiden drive a couple of days ago. I drove around for > several miles then stopped for gas. When I started going again, the gas peddle > was "heavy" and hard to smoothly accelerate. I took it out today several times > for short trips with no problems. I then drove it about ten miles and stop for > a bit. When I started up again, the gas pedal was heavy but this time the > throttle stuck open and wouldn't go back to idle. > > My guess is that when I stopped the engine temperature rose and the linkage > expanded. Was I supposed to use a lubricant on the linkage? Any ideas. > > Jeff Holder ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gsglasgow at comcast.net From joedatsun at att.net Tue Aug 17 04:34:14 2010 From: joedatsun at att.net (Brian Parks) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 05:34:14 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E175F99-CBFB-415F-849D-235D6E9DCE1B@att.net> Check to see if the pedal is getting stuck behind some carpet that has pushed up. Happened to me once. On Aug 16, 2010, at 10:40 PM, Jeff and Lois Holder wrote: > HI guys, > > Thanks for the help with the voltage regulator. Everything is working now. But > I have another problem. > > I took it out for its maiden drive a couple of days ago. I drove around for > several miles then stopped for gas. When I started going again, the gas peddle > was "heavy" and hard to smoothly accelerate. I took it out today several times > for short trips with no problems. I then drove it about ten miles and stop for > a bit. When I started up again, the gas pedal was heavy but this time the > throttle stuck open and wouldn't go back to idle. > > My guess is that when I stopped the engine temperature rose and the linkage > expanded. Was I supposed to use a lubricant on the linkage? Any ideas. > > Jeff Holder > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/joedatsun at att.net From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 17 04:49:32 2010 From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 03:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open In-Reply-To: <4E175F99-CBFB-415F-849D-235D6E9DCE1B@att.net> Message-ID: <415012.1507.qm@web63703.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Is this a Totota or a Datsun? Mike Harper, CAI, AARE Harper Auction & Realty 843-729-4996 "Experience Sells" www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET --- On Tue, 8/17/10, Brian Parks wrote: > From: Brian Parks > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open > To: "Jeff and Lois Holder" > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 6:34 AM > Check to see if the pedal is getting > stuck behind some carpet that has pushed > up. Happened to me once. > > > > On Aug 16, 2010, at 10:40 PM, Jeff and Lois Holder wrote: > > > HI guys, > > > > Thanks for the help with the voltage regulator. > Everything is working now. > But > > I have another problem. > > > > I took it out for its maiden drive a couple of days > ago. I drove around for > > several miles then stopped for gas. When I started > going again, the gas > peddle > > was "heavy" and hard to smoothly accelerate. I took it > out today several > times > > for short trips with no problems. I then drove it > about ten miles and stop > for > > a bit. When I started up again, the gas pedal was > heavy but this time the > > throttle stuck open and wouldn't go back to idle. > > > > My guess is that when I stopped the engine temperature > rose and the linkage > > expanded. Was I supposed to use a lubricant on the > linkage? Any ideas. > > > > Jeff Holder From graemes at internode.on.net Tue Aug 17 04:54:13 2010 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:24:13 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open In-Reply-To: <415012.1507.qm@web63703.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <4E175F99-CBFB-415F-849D-235D6E9DCE1B@att.net> <415012.1507.qm@web63703.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hey! That's uncalled for! No joke, a sticking throttle is a REAL scare! Panic is your immediate remedy, followed by turning off the engine! But then, your steering is locked [on a modern car]! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Harper Sent: Tuesday, 17 August 2010 8:20 PM To: Jeff and Lois Holder; Brian Parks Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open Is this a Totota or a Datsun? Mike Harper, CAI, AARE Harper Auction & Realty 843-729-4996 "Experience Sells" www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET --- On Tue, 8/17/10, Brian Parks wrote: > From: Brian Parks > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open > To: "Jeff and Lois Holder" > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 6:34 AM Check to see if the pedal is > getting stuck behind some carpet that has pushed up. Happened to me > once. > > > > On Aug 16, 2010, at 10:40 PM, Jeff and Lois Holder wrote: > > > HI guys, > > > > Thanks for the help with the voltage regulator. > Everything is working now. > But > > I have another problem. > > > > I took it out for its maiden drive a couple of days > ago. I drove around for > > several miles then stopped for gas. When I started > going again, the gas > peddle > > was "heavy" and hard to smoothly accelerate. I took it > out today several > times > > for short trips with no problems. I then drove it > about ten miles and stop > for > > a bit. When I started up again, the gas pedal was > heavy but this time the > > throttle stuck open and wouldn't go back to idle. > > > > My guess is that when I stopped the engine temperature > rose and the linkage > > expanded. Was I supposed to use a lubricant on the > linkage? Any ideas. > > > > Jeff Holder ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/graemes at internode.on. net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3076 - Release Date: 08/17/10 04:05:00 From RWM at RWMann.com Tue Aug 17 04:59:40 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 06:59:40 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open In-Reply-To: <415012.1507.qm@web63703.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <415012.1507.qm@web63703.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C6A6B9C.8070406@RWMann.com> Audi 5000... ? Seriously, if the throttle cable was recently adjusted/tightened when cold, it will often result in a partial/increasing throttle as the engine compartment warms up. The cable needs a bit of play when cold and preferably should be checked when hot.. (Ask me how I know.) - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex Mike Harper wrote: > Is this a Totota or a Datsun? > > Mike Harper, CAI, AARE > Harper Auction & Realty > 843-729-4996 > "Experience Sells" > > www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET > > > --- On Tue, 8/17/10, Brian Parks wrote: > > >> From: Brian Parks >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open >> To: "Jeff and Lois Holder" >> Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 6:34 AM >> Check to see if the pedal is getting >> stuck behind some carpet that has pushed >> up. Happened to me once. >> >> >> >> On Aug 16, 2010, at 10:40 PM, Jeff and Lois Holder wrote: >> >> >>> HI guys, >>> >>> Thanks for the help with the voltage regulator. >>> >> Everything is working now. >> But >> >>> I have another problem. >>> >>> I took it out for its maiden drive a couple of days >>> >> ago. I drove around for >> >>> several miles then stopped for gas. When I started >>> >> going again, the gas >> peddle >> >>> was "heavy" and hard to smoothly accelerate. I took it >>> >> out today several >> times >> >>> for short trips with no problems. I then drove it >>> >> about ten miles and stop >> for >> >>> a bit. When I started up again, the gas pedal was >>> >> heavy but this time the >> >>> throttle stuck open and wouldn't go back to idle. >>> >>> My guess is that when I stopped the engine temperature >>> >> rose and the linkage >> >>> expanded. Was I supposed to use a lubricant on the >>> >> linkage? Any ideas. >> >>> J From boakes at gmail.com Tue Aug 17 06:29:32 2010 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 07:29:32 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 Datsun Fairlady SPL212 on BAT Message-ID: Any East-Coasters out there looking for a SPL212? Looks interesting: http://bringatrailer.com/2010/08/17/1960-datsun-fairlady-spl212/ From d_kroninger at hotmail.com Tue Aug 17 06:34:24 2010 From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 07:34:24 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] SPL212 on BaT Message-ID: Not mine, just saw on BaT this morning. http://bringatrailer.com/2010/08/17/1960-datsun-fairlady-spl212/ Dan 68 1600 From Brad at lustigconsultingllc.com Tue Aug 17 07:39:10 2010 From: Brad at lustigconsultingllc.com (Brad Lustig (brad@lustigconsultingllc.com)) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:39:10 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open In-Reply-To: <415012.1507.qm@web63703.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <4E175F99-CBFB-415F-849D-235D6E9DCE1B@att.net> <415012.1507.qm@web63703.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <191D00BEB7748342820D55C9DBF97EEE470288E2CA@LCLLC-SERVER.lcllc.local> Is it too late for a class-action lawsuit? Brad Lustig Lustig Consulting, LLC 410 Mill Street, Suite 101 Mount Pleasant, SC 29464 843.884.4618 Office 843.884.4607 Fax 843.367.1060 Cell brad at lustigconsultingllc.com -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Harper Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 6:50 AM To: Jeff and Lois Holder; Brian Parks Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open Is this a Totota or a Datsun? Mike Harper, CAI, AARE Harper Auction & Realty 843-729-4996 "Experience Sells" www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET --- On Tue, 8/17/10, Brian Parks wrote: > From: Brian Parks > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open > To: "Jeff and Lois Holder" > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 6:34 AM > Check to see if the pedal is getting > stuck behind some carpet that has pushed > up. Happened to me once. > > > > On Aug 16, 2010, at 10:40 PM, Jeff and Lois Holder wrote: > > > HI guys, > > > > Thanks for the help with the voltage regulator. > Everything is working now. > But > > I have another problem. > > > > I took it out for its maiden drive a couple of days > ago. I drove around for > > several miles then stopped for gas. When I started > going again, the gas > peddle > > was "heavy" and hard to smoothly accelerate. I took it > out today several > times > > for short trips with no problems. I then drove it > about ten miles and stop > for > > a bit. When I started up again, the gas pedal was > heavy but this time the > > throttle stuck open and wouldn't go back to idle. > > > > My guess is that when I stopped the engine temperature > rose and the linkage > > expanded. Was I supposed to use a lubricant on the > linkage? Any ideas. > > > > Jeff Holder ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/brad at lustigconsultingl lc.com From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Aug 17 09:15:47 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 08:15:47 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open In-Reply-To: <1282022767.31595.10.camel@harlie.localdomain> References: <1282022767.31595.10.camel@harlie.localdomain> Message-ID: <003901cb3e1f$13bf8d20$3b3ea760$@net> Here's the starter-to-frame strap location. I used a braided strap: Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Bauman Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 10:26 PM To: Autox Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open Jeff: Check the battery/frame/engine ground. Make sure you don't have a missing ground strap anywhere. If you lose ground to the engine, the path the battery finds back to itself is through the throttle cable. They can get sticky, or as happened to me, the throttle got sticky, then the cable finally spot welded itself to the inside of the sheath and that was that. HTH Paul Bauman Westminster, CA 67 1600 -----Original Message----- From: Jeff and Lois Holder To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:40:25 -0700 [snip] I took it out for its maiden drive a couple of days ago. I drove around for several miles then stopped for gas. When I started going again, the gas peddle was "heavy" and hard to smoothly accelerate. I took it out today several times for short trips with no problems. I then drove it about ten miles and stop for a bit. When I started up again, the gas pedal was heavy but this time the throttle stuck open and wouldn't go back to idle. My guess is that when I stopped the engine temperature rose and the linkage expanded. Was I supposed to use a lubricant on the linkage? Any ideas. Jeff Holder From 9laser3 at bright.net Tue Aug 17 09:22:04 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 11:22:04 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 212 for sale Message-ID: <008d01cb3e1f$f53ac990$dfb05cb0$@net> I swapped a few emails with the owner of the '60 212 on BAT and Rhode Island Craig's List. He pasted on my offer of $300 without a comment. He pasted on my comment that his ad didn't offer any comments on the condition of the car. But he did say it will soon be on ebay. I won't be bidding so have fun! Paul From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 17 09:44:38 2010 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 08:44:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open In-Reply-To: <003901cb3e1f$13bf8d20$3b3ea760$@net> Message-ID: <486116.84455.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> If you want to add a little extra security to a ground strap's functionality, get hold of some conductive antisieze (basically vaseline with zinc dust) and coat the contact surfaces where the lugs are attached to the frame and the other component (the starter, in this case) -- and if you feel like going whole hog, cover the connection with sealant. This is how the ground straps (for 120V and 440V systems) are handled on the equipment I work with which is used in a waterfront environment. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Tue, 8/17/10, Pete Peters wrote: From: Pete Peters Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 8:15 AM Here's the starter-to-frame strap location. I used a braided strap: Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Bauman Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 10:26 PM To: Autox Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open Jeff: Check the battery/frame/engine ground. Make sure you don't have a missing ground strap anywhere. If you lose ground to the engine, the path the battery finds back to itself is through the throttle cable. They can get sticky, or as happened to me, the throttle got sticky, then the cable finally spot welded itself to the inside of the sheath and that was that. HTH Paul Bauman Westminster, CA 67 1600 -----Original Message----- From: Jeff and Lois Holder To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Throttle sticks open Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:40:25 -0700 [snip] I took it out for its maiden drive a couple of days ago. I drove around for several miles then stopped for gas. When I started going again, the gas peddle was "heavy" and hard to smoothly accelerate. I took it out today several times for short trips with no problems. I then drove it about ten miles and stop for a bit. When I started up again, the gas pedal was heavy but this time the throttle stuck open and wouldn't go back to idle. My guess is that when I stopped the engine temperature rose and the linkage expanded. Was I supposed to use a lubricant on the linkage? Any ideas. Jeff Holder ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gkmcc at sbcglobal.net From eddietude at socal.rr.com Tue Aug 17 09:47:36 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 08:47:36 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 212 for sale In-Reply-To: <008d01cb3e1f$f53ac990$dfb05cb0$@net> References: <008d01cb3e1f$f53ac990$dfb05cb0$@net> Message-ID: <4C6AAF18.7000403@socal.rr.com> He "pasted" on your offer? Do you mean PASSED? Also, I suspect that car is worth a hell of a lot more than $300, but maybe that's just me... Lol. Paul wrote: > I swapped a few emails with the owner of the '60 212 on BAT and Rhode > Island Craig's List. He pasted on my offer of $300 without a comment. He > pasted on my comment that his ad didn't offer any comments on the condition > of the car. But he did say it will soon be on ebay. I won't be bidding so > have fun! > > > > Paul > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From 9laser3 at bright.net Tue Aug 17 09:59:39 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 11:59:39 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 212 for sale In-Reply-To: <4C6AAF18.7000403@socal.rr.com> References: <008d01cb3e1f$f53ac990$dfb05cb0$@net> <4C6AAF18.7000403@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <009501cb3e25$33dc9fc0$9b95df40$@net> DUH! Passed sure works better than last week! (:-) After explaining to him that without details on the condition of the car, I would offer only $300. And then I asked for more info before upping my offer. Low ball? Maybe. But if you've read his ad, you'd know what I mean. Is it worth more than $300? Probably. But how much would you pay if you found out the engine and transmission were trash, the brakes were toast, and the other side (not pictured in ad) was crunched? I was hoping to get more info, but if the car fell into my hands at $300, I would not have complained! Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: Eddie [mailto:eddietude at socal.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:48 AM To: Paul Cc: 'datsun-roadsters' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1960 212 for sale He "pasted" on your offer? Do you mean PASSED? Also, I suspect that car is worth a hell of a lot more than $300, but maybe that's just me... Lol. Paul wrote: > I swapped a few emails with the owner of the '60 212 on BAT and Rhode > Island Craig's List. He pasted on my offer of $300 without a comment. He > pasted on my comment that his ad didn't offer any comments on the condition > of the car. But he did say it will soon be on ebay. I won't be bidding so > have fun! > > > > Paul > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.co m From ncoonen at fastbears.com Tue Aug 17 10:15:10 2010 From: ncoonen at fastbears.com (ncoonen at fastbears.com) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:15:10 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 212 for sale In-Reply-To: <009501cb3e25$33dc9fc0$9b95df40$@net> References: <008d01cb3e1f$f53ac990$dfb05cb0$@net> <4C6AAF18.7000403@socal.rr.com> <009501cb3e25$33dc9fc0$9b95df40$@net> Message-ID: <20100817121510.20472i6zkytp4yoe@webmail.fastbears.com> I don't know the seller personally but I know that type of seller and it can be so aggravating! (I have something unusual, I don't know what it's worth, I'm too busy find out, I hereby declare it's okay for me to be an ass, don't waste my time) BaT might just hook him up with someone who wouldn't mind throwing a few thousand down for an unusual car that might be a great deal...or maybe not. eBay isn't going to work for him either unless someone takes the time to go see the car and assess the condition. If it's worth pursuing, lay back and bid your price at the last moment. If he lists the car with comprehensive pictures and a thorough, believable description, he might generate some interest. (I'm betting it's pretty rusty underneath.) ...ned. '69 SRL311-11066 (still on jack stands) Quoting Paul <9laser3 at bright.net>: > DUH! Passed sure works better than last week! (:-) > > After explaining to him that without details on the condition of the car, > I would offer only $300. And then I asked for more info before upping my > offer. Low ball? Maybe. But if you've read his ad, you'd know what I > mean. Is it worth more than $300? Probably. But how much would you pay if > you found out the engine and transmission were trash, the brakes were toast, > and the other side (not pictured in ad) was crunched? > I was hoping to get more info, but if the car fell into my hands at $300, > I would not have complained! > > Paul > Ohio > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eddie [mailto:eddietude at socal.rr.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:48 AM > To: Paul > Cc: 'datsun-roadsters' > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1960 212 for sale > > He "pasted" on your offer? Do you mean PASSED? > > Also, I suspect that car is worth a hell of a lot more than $300, but > maybe that's just me... Lol. > > > > > > Paul wrote: >> I swapped a few emails with the owner of the '60 212 on BAT and Rhode >> Island Craig's List. He pasted on my offer of $300 without a comment. He >> pasted on my comment that his ad didn't offer any comments on the > condition >> of the car. But he did say it will soon be on ebay. I won't be bidding > so >> have fun! >> >> >> >> Paul >> ________________________________________ >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.co > m > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ncoonen at fastbears.com From eddietude at socal.rr.com Tue Aug 17 10:24:26 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:24:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 212 for sale In-Reply-To: <009501cb3e25$33dc9fc0$9b95df40$@net> References: <008d01cb3e1f$f53ac990$dfb05cb0$@net> <4C6AAF18.7000403@socal.rr.com> <009501cb3e25$33dc9fc0$9b95df40$@net> Message-ID: <4C6AB7BA.6040004@socal.rr.com> Paul, $300? You gotta be kidding. This is EXACTLY the cheap arse mentality of the online Roadster community that make many owners not want to be a part of it. Let's take your hypothetical. The other side is crunched, the engine is gone, and the brakes were toast. ONE FENDER is worth far more than $300. There were 288 of these cars imported to the US. All that being said, you are correct, the guy's ad was lousy, didn't explain what the car's condition was, but the pictures alone showed a body (at least the part visible), in very good condition. My biggest concern would be PARTS. Good luck finding any if stuff was missing. Frankly, if the power train and brakes were gone, I'd almost RATHER have that. Then I could justify putting that cool older body on a more modern frame with a modern power train... something I could NOT justify if the car had all that stuff in working condition... My guess, the owner is on a fishing trip, testing the waters, seeing what responses he gets. My guess is that cheap arse offers will make him re-think what he does with the car. FYI, I know of a complete 212 needing full restoration that was sold for something like $25K. Eddie Paul wrote: > DUH! Passed sure works better than last week! (:-) > > After explaining to him that without details on the condition of the car, > I would offer only $300. And then I asked for more info before upping my > offer. Low ball? Maybe. But if you've read his ad, you'd know what I > mean. Is it worth more than $300? Probably. But how much would you pay if > you found out the engine and transmission were trash, the brakes were toast, > and the other side (not pictured in ad) was crunched? > I was hoping to get more info, but if the car fell into my hands at $300, > I would not have complained! > > Paul > Ohio > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eddie [mailto:eddietude at socal.rr.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:48 AM > To: Paul > Cc: 'datsun-roadsters' > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1960 212 for sale > > He "pasted" on your offer? Do you mean PASSED? > > Also, I suspect that car is worth a hell of a lot more than $300, but > maybe that's just me... Lol. > > > > > > Paul wrote: > >> I swapped a few emails with the owner of the '60 212 on BAT and Rhode >> Island Craig's List. He pasted on my offer of $300 without a comment. He >> pasted on my comment that his ad didn't offer any comments on the >> > condition > >> of the car. But he did say it will soon be on ebay. I won't be bidding >> > so > >> have fun! >> >> >> >> Paul >> ________________________________________ >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.co > m From eddietude at socal.rr.com Tue Aug 17 11:36:15 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:36:15 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] The 212 on CL Message-ID: <4C6AC88F.2030804@socal.rr.com> "Due to an overwelming amount of interest in this car from around the globe, I have decided that it needs to go to auction in order to reach it's full potential. If you would like to know of it's posting on eBay motors, please send me a confirmation and I will keep you informed. Best Regards" That's the email I got from the guy. Interestingly, it doesn't surprise me. Why? Because every time someone lists anything regarding Roadsters on ebay or CL, some knucklehead has to forward the posting to the entire community, which in turn, results in 100 people calling the seller... Which in turn makes them think it's worth a fortune... Little do they know that most of the people calling are cheapskates who want the car for $300. LMAO Should be interesting to see what happens. Eddie From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 17 12:53:56 2010 From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 11:53:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] The 212 on CL In-Reply-To: <4C6AC88F.2030804@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <360452.36536.qm@web63703.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Yeah, forward the e-bay post when you get it. He will have hundreds of "watchers" and when he ends up getting $823 or something he will be really pissed. I, like all other roadster owners, would love to drag that one home, but getting the parts to put it back together will be a nightmare. Whomever had the idea about making it a FrankenRoadster probably has the best idea, but wouldn't it be great to see someone with the resources make it a stock restoration! Mike Harper, CAI, AARE Harper Auction & Realty 843-729-4996 "Experience Sells" '66 1600 (Bone Stock) www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET --- On Tue, 8/17/10, Eddie wrote: > From: Eddie > Subject: [Roadsters] The 212 on CL > To: "datsun Roadster List" > Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 1:36 PM > "Due to an overwelming amount of > interest in this car from around the globe, I have decided > that it needs to go to auction in order to reach it's full > potential. If you would like to know of it's posting on eBay > motors, please send me a confirmation and I will keep you > informed. > > Best Regards" > > That's the email I got from the guy. > > Interestingly, it doesn't surprise me. Why? > Because every time someone lists anything regarding > Roadsters on ebay or CL, some knucklehead has to forward the > posting to the entire community, which in turn, results in > 100 people calling the seller... > > Which in turn makes them think it's worth a fortune... > > Little do they know that most of the people calling are > cheapskates who want the car for $300. LMAO > > Should be interesting to see what happens. > > Eddie > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadsterdude1600 at yahoo .com From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com Tue Aug 17 12:58:38 2010 From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 11:58:38 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: "Knucklehead" In-Reply-To: <4C6AC88F.2030804@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Eddie- I view it as a courtesy to other List members to advise fellow Roadster people of a Roadster for sale - usually from the Spokane CraigsList - that they might not otherwise be aware of. In fact, I did so yesterday. Some of the most Roadster-savvy people on this List extend this courtesy to other List members, and have done so for many years. No one appreciates being called a "knucklehead" or any other derogatory name especially if they are merely doing another Roadster enthusiast a favor. I was always under the impression that that was what our Roadster List/community was all about. Greg SRL31100494 Spokane, WA On 8/17/10 10:36 AM, "Eddie" wrote: > Because every time someone > lists anything regarding Roadsters on ebay or CL, some knucklehead has > to forward the posting to the entire community, which in turn, results > in 100 people calling the seller... From lucasadrian at gmail.com Tue Aug 17 13:18:12 2010 From: lucasadrian at gmail.com (adrian lucas) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:18:12 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] The 212 on CL Message-ID: Eddie, Please do everyone a favor and stop posting to this list. You obviously have very little to offer in terms of real knowledge of these vehicles, and its safe to say that everyone is getting tired of your rudeness. I'm sure I will get a nasty off-list email from you, but it had to be said. Thanks. Adrian From SConway at fielders.com.au Tue Aug 17 13:28:23 2010 From: SConway at fielders.com.au (Sam Conway) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 04:58:23 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] The 212 on CL Message-ID: <09E4074C0F830C458934327282278BF00530DF8B@EDWEXVS01.hills.hillsad.com> Wow you guys talk about tight if it was in aus I would offer him $4-5k for it and have none of you heard of fabrication to make the needed parts. Stop being so tight it devalues our cars. Samuel ----- Original Message ----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed Aug 18 04:48:12 2010 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] The 212 on CL Eddie, Please do everyone a favor and stop posting to this list. You obviously have very little to offer in terms of real knowledge of these vehicles, and its safe to say that everyone is getting tired of your rudeness. I'm sure I will get a nasty off-list email from you, but it had to be said. Thanks. Adrian ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/sconway at fielders.com.au From robbieharrison at comcast.net Tue Aug 17 14:07:43 2010 From: robbieharrison at comcast.net (Robbie Harrison) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 16:07:43 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 212 for sale References: <008d01cb3e1f$f53ac990$dfb05cb0$@net> <4C6AAF18.7000403@socal.rr.com> <009501cb3e25$33dc9fc0$9b95df40$@net> <4C6AB7BA.6040004@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <003801cb3e47$ea72bfe0$bf583fa0$@net> Just because something is rare does not mean it is worth a lot of money. The fender is worth nothing unless you happen to have a 212 that needs a fender. It could be worth thousands if it is the last part you need to restore a 212 to showroom shape. Personally, I don't understand the push to make the roadsters "worth" more. It only matters if you are looking to sell it, and I'm hanging on to mine. I for one am very glad that I was able to purchase my current 2000 for nearly the same price as my first one, nearly 20 years later. For those of us who don't have the dollars for a full on restoration or an outrageous custom, the "undervalued" roadster provides the opportunity to have a really fun car. Something that you can drive without being terrified that somebody will scratch it in a parking lot, but still draw a thumbs up and that roadster grin every time you leave the driveway. Just my $.01 (saving the other one for pieces and parts) Robbie Harrison 68 2000 From SConway at fielders.com.au Tue Aug 17 14:21:55 2010 From: SConway at fielders.com.au (Sam Conway) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 05:51:55 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 212 for sale Message-ID: <09E4074C0F830C458934327282278BF00530DF8C@EDWEXVS01.hills.hillsad.com> So why do we want our cars to be valuable? Its simple economics really Things that have no value contain limited desire to own hence if we want to preserve these cars for the future and have industries that can support the cars they must increase in net worth. This will increase demand in a limited market the 212 should be preserved because its motoring history. Seems some people on here have a naive an mis guided perspective of how economics works and what will ensure the survival of a car for the future. ----- Original Message ----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net To: 'datsun-roadsters' Sent: Wed Aug 18 05:37:43 2010 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1960 212 for sale Just because something is rare does not mean it is worth a lot of money. The fender is worth nothing unless you happen to have a 212 that needs a fender. It could be worth thousands if it is the last part you need to restore a 212 to showroom shape. Personally, I don't understand the push to make the roadsters "worth" more. It only matters if you are looking to sell it, and I'm hanging on to mine. I for one am very glad that I was able to purchase my current 2000 for nearly the same price as my first one, nearly 20 years later. For those of us who don't have the dollars for a full on restoration or an outrageous custom, the "undervalued" roadster provides the opportunity to have a really fun car. Something that you can drive without being terrified that somebody will scratch it in a parking lot, but still draw a thumbs up and that roadster grin every time you leave the driveway. Just my $.01 (saving the other one for pieces and parts) Robbie Harrison 68 2000 ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/sconway at fielders.com.au From rabush2000 at hotmail.com Tue Aug 17 14:40:02 2010 From: rabush2000 at hotmail.com (richard bush) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:40:02 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Gaskets 2 Litre In-Reply-To: <09E4074C0F830C458934327282278BF00530DF8B@EDWEXVS01.hills.hillsad.com> References: <09E4074C0F830C458934327282278BF00530DF8B@EDWEXVS01.hills.hillsad.com> Message-ID: Greetings from Austin Texas. I have a friend - Alan Milroy, copied on this email, who is helping me with my 1967 2000 Fairlady. Thus far, we have determined that I have a number of gaskets that are leaking and need to be replaced. These include the valve cover gasket, the timing chain cover gasket, the intake exhaust gasket or manifold, and the water pump gasket. Does anyone know where I can get new gaskets for the car? It appears that the gaskets are interchangeable for years 68 through 70 for the 2 litre. Thanks in advance, Rick R A Bush, P O Box 500003 Dubai, UAE; cell: ++971 50 456 4357 From eddietude at socal.rr.com Tue Aug 17 15:06:22 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:06:22 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: "Knucklehead" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C6AF9CE.1040309@socal.rr.com> Perhaps you missed the point. One one hand, I get it. You post stuff so other members have a shot at it. But what you also fail to realize is that when you post something like this to an open forum, the owner gets 100 plus emails, now suddenly the price jumps way up on the item, Or they decide to go "ebay" it... and the scenario that someone else eloquently noted occurs. (that's when they guy has 1000 watchers, and only 2 people who bid, and the highest it goes is $600 or so. So yes, in a way, it IS a "knucklehead move" to post some things on an open forum, regardless of the intention. As for "doing other roadster enthusiasts a favor".... we all know how well that's received by "the community". LMAO The A-arm shafts and lower ball joint projects illustrated how well the community "appreciates" when people do them a "favor". That's why the community lost out on brand new roll bars for $200 each, or a slew of other projects as well. Again though, posting stuff on an open forum can be a knucklehead move... Sort of like posting one's email password on an open forum... lol Eddie Gregory S. Morrison wrote: > Eddie- I view it as a courtesy to other List members to advise fellow > Roadster people of a Roadster for sale - usually from the Spokane CraigsList > - that they might not otherwise be aware of. In fact, I did so yesterday. > Some of the most Roadster-savvy people on this List extend this courtesy to > other List members, and have done so for many years. > > No one appreciates being called a "knucklehead" or any other derogatory name > especially if they are merely doing another Roadster enthusiast a favor. I > was always under the impression that that was what our Roadster > List/community was all about. > > Greg > SRL31100494 > Spokane, WA > > > On 8/17/10 10:36 AM, "Eddie" wrote: > > >> Because every time someone >> lists anything regarding Roadsters on ebay or CL, some knucklehead has >> to forward the posting to the entire community, which in turn, results >> in 100 people calling the seller... From eddietude at socal.rr.com Tue Aug 17 15:06:48 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:06:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] The 212 on CL In-Reply-To: <09E4074C0F830C458934327282278BF00530DF8B@EDWEXVS01.hills.hillsad.com> References: <09E4074C0F830C458934327282278BF00530DF8B@EDWEXVS01.hills.hillsad.com> Message-ID: <4C6AF9E8.7090501@socal.rr.com> Well said. Sam Conway wrote: > Wow you guys talk about tight if it was in aus I would offer him $4-5k for it and have none of you heard of fabrication to make the needed parts. Stop being so tight it devalues our cars. > > Samuel > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Wed Aug 18 04:48:12 2010 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] The 212 on CL > > Eddie, > > Please do everyone a favor and stop posting to this list. You obviously > have very little to offer in terms of real knowledge of these vehicles, and > its safe to say that everyone is getting tired of your rudeness. I'm sure I > will get a nasty off-list email from you, but it had to be said. > > Thanks. > > Adrian > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/sconway at fielders.com.au > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From eddietude at socal.rr.com Tue Aug 17 15:10:11 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:10:11 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] The 212 on CL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C6AFAB3.5020703@socal.rr.com> Adrian, Please do yourself a favor and change your diapers. I've arguably done more for the community than most, regardless of the fact that some of you pantie wearing crybabies don't like the truth being told. How many of you have actually bothered to do ANYTHING serious to help the community without some gain for yourself? Linda's the only one who comes to mind. That's it. And you all showed your great support and appreciation for her didn't you? LOL There are plenty of roadster owners who agree with my sentiments. There's a good reason why MANY roadster owners simply enjoy their cars and want little to do with the community. Sorry if looking at the mirror hurts. Instead of blaming the guy holding the mirror, maybe you should blame the guy causing the reflection. Eddie adrian lucas wrote: > Eddie, > > Please do everyone a favor and stop posting to this list. You obviously > have very little to offer in terms of real knowledge of these vehicles, and > its safe to say that everyone is getting tired of your rudeness. I'm sure I > will get a nasty off-list email from you, but it had to be said. > > Thanks. > > Adrian > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From eddietude at socal.rr.com Tue Aug 17 15:13:28 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:13:28 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 212 for sale In-Reply-To: <09E4074C0F830C458934327282278BF00530DF8C@EDWEXVS01.hills.hillsad.com> References: <09E4074C0F830C458934327282278BF00530DF8C@EDWEXVS01.hills.hillsad.com> Message-ID: <4C6AFB78.90709@socal.rr.com> Sam, Well said. It's not "naive and misguided" it's "self centered coupled with an overdeveloped sense of entitlement". Some of these people don't CARE about the future of these cars. They only care about THEIR car and what THEY get. If they cared about the future of the cars, they'd support projects that make previously unobtainable parts available... but they don't. In fact, many try to subvert those very projects. But hey, I'm the jerk who just points out this very glaringly obvious fact, so what do I know? lol Eddie Sam Conway wrote: > So why do we want our cars to be valuable? > > Its simple economics really > > Things that have no value contain limited desire to own hence if we want to preserve these cars for the future and have industries that can support the cars they must increase in net worth. This will increase demand in a limited market the 212 should be preserved because its motoring history. > > Seems some people on here have a naive an mis guided perspective of how economics works and what will ensure the survival of a car for the future. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > To: 'datsun-roadsters' > Sent: Wed Aug 18 05:37:43 2010 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1960 212 for sale > > Just because something is rare does not mean it is worth a lot of money. The > fender is worth nothing unless you happen to have a 212 that needs a fender. > It could be worth thousands if it is the last part you need to restore a 212 > to showroom shape. > > Personally, I don't understand the push to make the roadsters "worth" more. > It only matters if you are looking to sell it, and I'm hanging on to mine. I > for one am very glad that I was able to purchase my current 2000 for nearly > the same price as my first one, nearly 20 years later. For those of us who > don't have the dollars for a full on restoration or an outrageous custom, > the "undervalued" roadster provides the opportunity to have a really fun > car. Something that you can drive without being terrified that somebody will > scratch it in a parking lot, but still draw a thumbs up and that roadster > grin every time you leave the driveway. > > Just my $.01 (saving the other one for pieces and parts) > > Robbie Harrison > 68 2000 > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/sconway at fielders.com.au > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From gcallahan at prodigy.net Tue Aug 17 15:31:26 2010 From: gcallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Gaskets 2 Litre (and 1600cc) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <934709.51409.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I too have a gasket question. My 1600 is leaking a little oil from the valve cover. The previous owner left a brand new cork gasket in the trunk; but, I want to know if cork is the best choice. What other choices of gasket material are there and which works best for what reason. Thanks! Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 --- On Tue, 8/17/10, richard bush wrote: From: richard bush Subject: [Roadsters] Gaskets 2 Litre To: sconway at fielders.com.au, lucasadrian at gmail.com, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Cc: hopeandal at att.net Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 1:40 PM Greetings from Austin Texas. I have a friend - Alan Milroy, copied on this email, who is helping me with my 1967 2000 Fairlady. Thus far, we have determined that I have a number of gaskets that are leaking and need to be replaced. These include the valve cover gasket, the timing chain cover gasket, the intake exhaust gasket or manifold, and the water pump gasket. Does anyone know where I can get new gaskets for the car? It appears that the gaskets are interchangeable for years 68 through 70 for the 2 litre. Thanks in advance, Rick R A Bush, P O Box 500003 Dubai, UAE; cell: ++971 50 456 4357 ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcallahan at prodigy.net From boakes at gmail.com Tue Aug 17 15:36:56 2010 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 16:36:56 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] The 212 on CL In-Reply-To: <4C6AFAB3.5020703@socal.rr.com> References: <4C6AFAB3.5020703@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: I think we need to set up a "Jerry Springer" channel off of this list for those who want to continue the name-calling. Seriously, this is juvenile, email each other with your dribble and don't cc the list. If it makes you feel like you're showing off you're awesome put-down skills by cc'ing the list, it isn't. We just don't care. Bill Oakes '68 200 Libertyville, IL On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Eddie wrote: > Adrian, > > Please do yourself a favor and change your diapers. > I've arguably done more for the community than most, regardless of the fact > that some of you pantie wearing crybabies don't like the truth being told. > How many of you have actually bothered to do ANYTHING serious to help the > community without some gain for yourself? > Linda's the only one who comes to mind. That's it. And you all showed > your great support and appreciation for her didn't you? LOL > > There are plenty of roadster owners who agree with my sentiments. There's > a good reason why MANY roadster owners simply enjoy their cars and want > little to do with the community. > > Sorry if looking at the mirror hurts. Instead of blaming the guy holding > the mirror, maybe you should blame the guy causing the reflection. > > Eddie > > adrian lucas wrote: > >> Eddie, >> >> Please do everyone a favor and stop posting to this list. You obviously >> have very little to offer in terms of real knowledge of these vehicles, >> and >> its safe to say that everyone is getting tired of your rudeness. I'm sure >> I >> will get a nasty off-list email from you, but it had to be said. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Adrian >> ________________________________________ >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com >> > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/boakes at gmail.com > -- Bill Oakes bill at billoakes.com http://billoakes.com 312-607-1667 404 Broadway Libertyville, IL 60048 From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Tue Aug 17 15:35:31 2010 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 16:35:31 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] lovely 1/2 of a 212, alternative Message-ID: OK, so in trying to keep on topic, if one side of the car is smashed up, and it is regarded has styling reminiscent of "escapee from merry-go-round" or whatever they said on the BAT website review, I think a plasma cut right down the center, a bit of welded steel rack, and mount it on the wall of the living as gearhead art is in order. Just trying to keep a sense of humor in all of the mess being thrown out. Fergus O 69 2000, starting to prep for SoCal TT in October From eddietude at socal.rr.com Tue Aug 17 15:53:35 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:53:35 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Gaskets 2 Litre (and 1600cc) In-Reply-To: <934709.51409.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <934709.51409.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C6B04DF.9070000@socal.rr.com> I had the exact same problem. Your best bet is to get a silicone gasket, and follow the manufacturers instructions. Basically, you glue one side to the valve cover. The company name is "gasket innovations". They sell them on ebay all the time. Here's a link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Roadster-Fairlady-Silicone-Valve-Cover-Gasket-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQitemZ130369885220QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories One I had gotten leaked because it had a slight crease in it, and without hesitation, they sent a brand new one, which sealed it up nicely. Great company, great customer service, great product. Eddie Gary Callahan wrote: > I too have a gasket question. My 1600 is leaking a little oil from the valve > cover. The previous owner left a brand new cork gasket in the trunk; but, I > want to know if cork is the best choice. What other choices of gasket > material are there and which works best for what reason. Thanks! > > > > Gary Callahan > Beaverton, Oregon > > 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster > SPL311-18665 > > --- On Tue, 8/17/10, richard bush wrote: > > > From: richard bush > Subject: [Roadsters] Gaskets 2 Litre > To: sconway at fielders.com.au, lucasadrian at gmail.com, > datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Cc: hopeandal at att.net > Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 1:40 PM > > > Greetings from Austin Texas. > I have a friend - Alan Milroy, copied on this email, who is helping me with my > 1967 2000 Fairlady. > Thus far, we have determined that I have a number of gaskets that are leaking > and need to be replaced. These include the valve cover gasket, the timing > chain cover gasket, the intake exhaust gasket or manifold, and the water pump > gasket. Does anyone know where I can get new gaskets for the car? > It appears that the gaskets are interchangeable for years 68 through 70 for > the 2 litre. > Thanks in advance, > Rick > R A Bush, P O Box 500003 > Dubai, UAE; cell: ++971 50 456 4357 > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcallahan at prodigy.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From ronnie.day at gmail.com Tue Aug 17 16:03:20 2010 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 17:03:20 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Gaskets 2 Litre In-Reply-To: References: <09E4074C0F830C458934327282278BF00530DF8B@EDWEXVS01.hills.hillsad.com> Message-ID: Hi Rick, Give Les a call at Classic Datsun Motorsports in Oceanside and tell him what you need. Be careful not to over tighten the fasteners on the bits that aren't under much if any pressure. You''ll just distort the gasket and it'll keep leaking. In fact it's a good idea to check both surfaces to make sure they're flat or you may never get them to seal properly. Often a THIN layer of non-hardening sealer helps on paper and cork gaskets, and it definitely helps hold the gasket in place while you start fasteners. On the manifold gasket I' d put a small bead of sealer around the water passages. You've got your work cut out for you, especially if the engine is in the car. I also think you'll need to loosen and lower the oil pan slightly to do the timing chain cover unless you're talking about the small oval inspection cover above the water pump. Speaking of the water pump, check the "weep hole" on the bottom. If it is weeping water the shaft seal is probably shot and you'll need to replace the pump. Stay cool, Ron > Greetings from Austin Texas. > I have a friend - Alan Milroy, copied on this email, who is helping me with my 1967 2000 Fairlady. > Thus far, we have determined that I have a number of gaskets that are leaking and need to be replaced. These include the valve cover gasket, the timing chain cover gasket, the intake exhaust gasket or manifold, and the water pump gasket. Does anyone know where I can get new gaskets for the car? > It appears that the gaskets are interchangeable for years 68 through 70 for the 2 litre. From eddietude at socal.rr.com Tue Aug 17 16:03:29 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:03:29 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] The 212 on CL In-Reply-To: References: <4C6AFAB3.5020703@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <4C6B0731.40707@socal.rr.com> Bill, We all know the list DOES care... that's why people keep commenting on it, and even when it goes OFF list, several feel the need to bring it back ON the list... Much of the list LOVES the drama...lol It's what makes some people's empty lives feel complete... ;-) Eddie Bill Oakes wrote: > I think we need to set up a "Jerry Springer" channel off of this list for > those who want to continue the name-calling. > > Seriously, this is juvenile, email each other with your dribble and don't cc > the list. If it makes you feel like you're showing off > you're awesome put-down skills by cc'ing the list, it isn't. We just don't > care. > > Bill Oakes > '68 200 > Libertyville, IL > > > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Eddie wrote: > > >> Adrian, >> >> Please do yourself a favor and change your diapers. >> I've arguably done more for the community than most, regardless of the fact >> that some of you pantie wearing crybabies don't like the truth being told. >> How many of you have actually bothered to do ANYTHING serious to help the >> community without some gain for yourself? >> Linda's the only one who comes to mind. That's it. And you all showed >> your great support and appreciation for her didn't you? LOL >> >> There are plenty of roadster owners who agree with my sentiments. There's >> a good reason why MANY roadster owners simply enjoy their cars and want >> little to do with the community. >> >> Sorry if looking at the mirror hurts. Instead of blaming the guy holding >> the mirror, maybe you should blame the guy causing the reflection. >> >> Eddie >> >> adrian lucas wrote: >> >> >>> Eddie, >>> >>> Please do everyone a favor and stop posting to this list. You obviously >>> have very little to offer in terms of real knowledge of these vehicles, >>> and >>> its safe to say that everyone is getting tired of your rudeness. I'm sure >>> I >>> will get a nasty off-list email from you, but it had to be said. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Adrian >>> ________________________________________ >>> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com >>> >>> >> ________________________________________ >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/boakes at gmail.com From eddietude at socal.rr.com Tue Aug 17 16:03:51 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:03:51 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] lovely 1/2 of a 212, alternative In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C6B0747.3030202@socal.rr.com> Fergus, That's actually a pretty cool idea! Eddie O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS) wrote: > OK, so in trying to keep on topic, if one side of the car is smashed up, > and it is regarded has styling reminiscent of "escapee from > merry-go-round" or whatever they said on the BAT website review, I think > a plasma cut right down the center, a bit of welded steel rack, and > mount it on the wall of the living as gearhead art is in order. > > Just trying to keep a sense of humor in all of the mess being thrown > out. > > Fergus O > 69 2000, starting to prep for SoCal TT in October > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From zmydust1 at gmail.com Tue Aug 17 16:12:36 2010 From: zmydust1 at gmail.com (Jonathan Chadic) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 17:12:36 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Message-ID: I have tried the unsubscribe button but I continue to rec emails. Due to the recent spam/arguing/petty ness I would like to be removed From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Aug 17 17:39:39 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 16:39:39 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Another request to play nice In-Reply-To: <09E4074C0F830C458934327282278BF00530DF8C@EDWEXVS01.hills.hillsad.com> References: <09E4074C0F830C458934327282278BF00530DF8C@EDWEXVS01.hills.hillsad.com> Message-ID: <009201cb3e65$76cf30a0$646d91e0$@net> How about everyone knock off the damn name-calling and rudeness? Opinions can be expressed without calling folks knuckleheads, cheap a$$, naove, misguided, etc. Sheesh....enough already. Pete From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Aug 17 17:42:00 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 16:42:00 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Gaskets 2 Litre (and 1600cc) In-Reply-To: <934709.51409.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <934709.51409.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <009301cb3e65$c9f77d50$5de677f0$@net> Vendors, Nissan, and (for 1600 folks) forklift dealers. I've heard nothing but positive reports about Dean's (datsunparts.com) reusable valve cover and oil pan gaskets. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Callahan Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 2:31 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Gaskets 2 Litre (and 1600cc) I too have a gasket question. My 1600 is leaking a little oil from the valve cover. The previous owner left a brand new cork gasket in the trunk; but, I want to know if cork is the best choice. What other choices of gasket material are there and which works best for what reason. Thanks! Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 --- On Tue, 8/17/10, richard bush wrote: From: richard bush Subject: [Roadsters] Gaskets 2 Litre To: sconway at fielders.com.au, lucasadrian at gmail.com, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Cc: hopeandal at att.net Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 1:40 PM Greetings from Austin Texas. I have a friend - Alan Milroy, copied on this email, who is helping me with my 1967 2000 Fairlady. Thus far, we have determined that I have a number of gaskets that are leaking and need to be replaced. These include the valve cover gasket, the timing chain cover gasket, the intake exhaust gasket or manifold, and the water pump gasket. Does anyone know where I can get new gaskets for the car? It appears that the gaskets are interchangeable for years 68 through 70 for the 2 litre. Thanks in advance, Rick R A Bush, P O Box 500003 Dubai, UAE; cell: ++971 50 456 4357 ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcallahan at prodigy.net ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From joedatsun at att.net Tue Aug 17 18:41:05 2010 From: joedatsun at att.net (Brian Parks) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 19:41:05 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] lovely 1/2 of a 212, alternative In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <24320CF0-1C32-4F3D-A77C-618B1F702EEF@att.net> nice On Aug 17, 2010, at 4:35 PM, O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS) wrote: > OK, so in trying to keep on topic, if one side of the car is smashed up, > and it is regarded has styling reminiscent of "escapee from > merry-go-round" or whatever they said on the BAT website review, I think > a plasma cut right down the center, a bit of welded steel rack, and > mount it on the wall of the living as gearhead art is in order. > > Just trying to keep a sense of humor in all of the mess being thrown > out. > > Fergus O > 69 2000, starting to prep for SoCal TT in October > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/joedatsun at att.net From nancerichardedward at yahoo.com Tue Aug 17 18:54:40 2010 From: nancerichardedward at yahoo.com (Richard) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 18:54:40 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Wow! Message-ID: Can we just drop it. I love to get the emails from everyone about the things they need help with on their roadsters. But this makes me want to get off the list. 15+ emails on this topic should be all we need. Can the MOD step in now? Just me two cents Thanks, Mudtime From eddietude at socal.rr.com Tue Aug 17 19:16:27 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 18:16:27 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Wow! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C6B346B.20205@socal.rr.com> Ummm, I think it was dropped earlier today. The only posts now are from the people wanting to have it dropped... Richard wrote: > Can we just drop it. I love to get the emails from everyone about the things > they need help with on their roadsters. But this makes me want to get off the > list. 15+ emails on this topic should be all we need. Can the MOD step in > now? > > Just me two cents > Thanks, > Mudtime > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From mkiisupra at hotmail.com Tue Aug 17 19:41:17 2010 From: mkiisupra at hotmail.com (Eric Gillis) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 01:41:17 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Class win at last week's Monterey Concours In-Reply-To: <24320CF0-1C32-4F3D-A77C-618B1F702EEF@att.net> References: , <24320CF0-1C32-4F3D-A77C-618B1F702EEF@att.net> Message-ID: Gotcha to look! Good people of the Group! I have no idea how this weighs in on the current discussion of Roadster market value, but I did want pass along that the mighty Roadster has scored a class win at this year's Monterey Concours d'Lemons! A trophy of a stuffed bass (sushi in the raw), and plaque from the 'Soul-Sucking Japanese Appliance' class were awarded! Bribes were tough, as many of the judges were still nursing hangovers from the party the night before, however shrewd planning (I brought Datsun Roadster tees) and well placed personal compliments to the judges delivered where sake and SaveMart sushi failed! http://www.pbase.com/egillis/image/127566924 'Worst of Show' was the most awesome 'shortened' VW bus that entertained the crowd with wheelies in the parking lot, The car was 'sectioned' lengthwise to remove the side door and put back together. The wheel base length, well, let's call it short... http://www.pbase.com/egillis/image/127566922 Enjoy your ride! Eric G From pat at hornesystemstx.com Tue Aug 17 20:00:10 2010 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:00:10 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Class win at last week's Monterey Concours In-Reply-To: References: , <24320CF0-1C32-4F3D-A77C-618B1F702EEF@att.net> Message-ID: <4C6B3EAA.7070901@hornesystemstx.com> Eric, Back in the late 60's there was a foreign auto parts house that had a bus like this for their small deliveries. The also had one that was much longer. They cut the side door section out of one bus and welded it back together like the one pictured. They then cut the other van behind the front seats, turned the previously cut out door section in backwards, so the two "new" doors were on the driver's side. They used to park the two vans parallel out front of their business in 2 standard parking places, just one only using about half a parking place, and the other using 1.5 parking places. They really turned heads the first time you saw them! Peace, Pat Thusly spake Eric Gillis, On 8/17/2010 8:41 PM: > Gotcha to look! > > Good people of the Group! > > > > > 'Worst of Show' was the most awesome 'shortened' VW bus that entertained the > crowd with wheelies in the parking lot, The car was 'sectioned' lengthwise to > remove the side door and put back together. The wheel base length, well, let's > call it short... http://www.pbase.com/egillis/image/127566922 > > Enjoy your ride! > > Eric G > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/pat at hornesystemstx.com > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From ljordan704 at netscape.net Tue Aug 17 20:01:05 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 22:01:05 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Class win at last week's Monterey Concours In-Reply-To: References: , <24320CF0-1C32-4F3D-A77C-618B1F702EEF@att.net> Message-ID: <8CD0C9059FDFB40-1490-3BEF@webmail-m084.sysops.aol.com> This has got to boost the value of our cars! Anyone who doesn't think so is a butthead! LOL Linda -----Original Message----- From: Eric Gillis To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, Aug 17, 2010 6:41 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Class win at last week's Monterey Concours Gotcha to look! Good people of the Group! I have no idea how this weighs in on the current discussion of Roadster market value, but I did want pass along that the mighty Roadster has scored a class win at this year's Monterey Concours d'Lemons! A trophy of a stuffed bass (sushi in the raw), and plaque from the 'Soul-Sucking Japanese Appliance' class were awarded! Bribes were tough, as many of the judges were still nursing hangovers from the party the night before, however shrewd planning (I brought Datsun Roadster tees) and well placed personal compliments to the judges delivered where sake and SaveMart sushi failed! http://www.pbase.com/egillis/image/127566924 'Worst of Show' was the most awesome 'shortened' VW bus that entertained the crowd with wheelies in the parking lot, The car was 'sectioned' lengthwise to remove the side door and put back together. The wheel base length, well, let's call it short... http://www.pbase.com/egillis/image/127566922 Enjoy your ride! Eric G ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From joedatsun at att.net Tue Aug 17 20:05:46 2010 From: joedatsun at att.net (Brian Parks) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:05:46 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] lovely 1/2 of a 212, alternative In-Reply-To: <24320CF0-1C32-4F3D-A77C-618B1F702EEF@att.net> References: <24320CF0-1C32-4F3D-A77C-618B1F702EEF@att.net> Message-ID: make it into a Datsun Barbecue and tow it to Shasta and Solvang! On Aug 17, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Brian Parks wrote: > nice > > On Aug 17, 2010, at 4:35 PM, O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS) wrote: > >> OK, so in trying to keep on topic, if one side of the car is smashed up, >> and it is regarded has styling reminiscent of "escapee from >> merry-go-round" or whatever they said on the BAT website review, I think >> a plasma cut right down the center, a bit of welded steel rack, and >> mount it on the wall of the living as gearhead art is in order. >> >> Just trying to keep a sense of humor in all of the mess being thrown >> out. >> >> Fergus O >> 69 2000, starting to prep for SoCal TT in October >> ________________________________________ >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/joedatsun at att.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/joedatsun at att.net From joedatsun at att.net Tue Aug 17 20:10:21 2010 From: joedatsun at att.net (Brian Parks) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:10:21 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Class win at last week's Monterey Concours In-Reply-To: <8CD0C9059FDFB40-1490-3BEF@webmail-m084.sysops.aol.com> References: , <24320CF0-1C32-4F3D-A77C-618B1F702EEF@att.net> <8CD0C9059FDFB40-1490-3BEF@webmail-m084.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <12ED8020-2726-4F84-B8E1-D752EC367C11@att.net> HA if only Eric could have done a couple wheelies!!! Brian On Aug 17, 2010, at 9:01 PM, ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: > This has got to boost the value of our cars! Anyone who doesn't think so is a > butthead! > LOL > > Linda > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Gillis > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Tue, Aug 17, 2010 6:41 pm > Subject: [Roadsters] Class win at last week's Monterey Concours > > > Gotcha to look! > > Good people of the Group! > > I have no idea how this weighs in on the current discussion of Roadster > market > value, but I did want pass along that the mighty Roadster has scored a class > win at this year's Monterey Concours d'Lemons! > > A trophy of a stuffed bass (sushi in the raw), and plaque from the > 'Soul-Sucking Japanese Appliance' class were awarded! Bribes were tough, as > many of the judges were still nursing hangovers from the party the night > before, however shrewd planning (I brought Datsun Roadster tees) and well > placed personal compliments to the judges delivered where sake and SaveMart > sushi failed! http://www.pbase.com/egillis/image/127566924 > > 'Worst of Show' was the most awesome 'shortened' VW bus that entertained the > crowd with wheelies in the parking lot, The car was 'sectioned' lengthwise to > remove the side door and put back together. The wheel base length, well, > let's > call it short... http://www.pbase.com/egillis/image/127566922 > > Enjoy your ride! > > Eric G > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne > t > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/joedatsun at att.net From eddietude at socal.rr.com Tue Aug 17 20:17:12 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 19:17:12 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] lovely 1/2 of a 212, alternative In-Reply-To: References: <24320CF0-1C32-4F3D-A77C-618B1F702EEF@att.net> Message-ID: <4C6B42A8.6040509@socal.rr.com> Blasphemy! lol Eddie Brian Parks wrote: > make it into a Datsun Barbecue and tow it to Shasta and Solvang! > > > > > On Aug 17, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Brian Parks wrote: > > >> nice >> >> On Aug 17, 2010, at 4:35 PM, O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS) wrote: >> >> >>> OK, so in trying to keep on topic, if one side of the car is smashed up, >>> and it is regarded has styling reminiscent of "escapee from >>> merry-go-round" or whatever they said on the BAT website review, I think >>> a plasma cut right down the center, a bit of welded steel rack, and >>> mount it on the wall of the living as gearhead art is in order. >>> >>> Just trying to keep a sense of humor in all of the mess being thrown >>> out. >>> >>> Fergus O >>> 69 2000, starting to prep for SoCal TT in October >>> ________________________________________ >>> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/joedatsun at att.net >> ________________________________________ >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/joedatsun at att.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/eddietude at socal.rr.com From wrenchorhammer at live.com Tue Aug 17 20:39:12 2010 From: wrenchorhammer at live.com (Jim In Virginia) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 22:39:12 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Class win at last week's Monterey Concours In-Reply-To: References: , , <24320CF0-1C32-4F3D-A77C-618B1F702EEF@att.net>, Message-ID: Oh my, that is dis-heartening in a way, as it looks like a nice roadster that garnered the dead fish trophy. On the other hand, since our cars will obviously never be worth much, they will also never cost that much to own, and we can keep driving them. I visited ABBICUS RACING last week, and what a wonderful place. Turns out its 30 minutes from my house. They had some true 100 point 3000 Healys....but I dont think you will ever see them on the road being enjoyed from a driving perspective! Best Regards, Jim Chesapeake Va > From: mkiisupra at hotmail.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 01:41:17 +0000 > Subject: [Roadsters] Class win at last week's Monterey Concours > > Gotcha to look! > > Good people of the Group! > > I have no idea how this weighs in on the current discussion of Roadster market > value, but I did want pass along that the mighty Roadster has scored a class > win at this year's Monterey Concours d'Lemons! > > A trophy of a stuffed bass (sushi in the raw), and plaque from the > 'Soul-Sucking Japanese Appliance' class were awarded! Bribes were tough, as > many of the judges were still nursing hangovers from the party the night > before, however shrewd planning (I brought Datsun Roadster tees) and well > placed personal compliments to the judges delivered where sake and SaveMart > sushi failed! http://www.pbase.com/egillis/image/127566924 > > 'Worst of Show' was the most awesome 'shortened' VW bus that entertained the > crowd with wheelies in the parking lot, The car was 'sectioned' lengthwise to > remove the side door and put back together. The wheel base length, well, let's > call it short... http://www.pbase.com/egillis/image/127566922 > > Enjoy your ride! > > Eric G > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/wrenchorhammer at live.co m From wrenchorhammer at live.com Tue Aug 17 20:41:13 2010 From: wrenchorhammer at live.com (Jim In Virginia) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 22:41:13 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Class win at last week's Monterey Concours In-Reply-To: References: , , , <24320CF0-1C32-4F3D-A77C-618B1F702EEF@att.net>, , , Message-ID: Oh no! I just read the rest of the thread....Linda might think I am a butthead! But really, the "Le-mons" part of the Concours is not exactly the big dollar area! > From: wrenchorhammer at live.com > To: mkiisupra at hotmail.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 22:39:12 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Class win at last week's Monterey Concours > > Oh my, that is dis-heartening in a way, as it looks like a nice roadster that > garnered the dead fish trophy. On the other hand, since our cars will > obviously never be worth much, they will also never cost that much to own, and > we can keep driving them. > > I visited ABBICUS RACING last week, and what a wonderful place. Turns out its > 30 minutes from my house. They had some true 100 point 3000 Healys....but I > dont think you will ever see them on the road being enjoyed from a driving > perspective! > > Best Regards, > Jim > Chesapeake Va > > > > > > > From: mkiisupra at hotmail.com > > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 01:41:17 +0000 > > Subject: [Roadsters] Class win at last week's Monterey Concours > > > > Gotcha to look! > > > > Good people of the Group! > > > > I have no idea how this weighs in on the current discussion of Roadster > market > > value, but I did want pass along that the mighty Roadster has scored a > class > > win at this year's Monterey Concours d'Lemons! > > > > A trophy of a stuffed bass (sushi in the raw), and plaque from the > > 'Soul-Sucking Japanese Appliance' class were awarded! Bribes were tough, as > > many of the judges were still nursing hangovers from the party the night > > before, however shrewd planning (I brought Datsun Roadster tees) and well > > placed personal compliments to the judges delivered where sake and SaveMart > > sushi failed! http://www.pbase.com/egillis/image/127566924 > > > > 'Worst of Show' was the most awesome 'shortened' VW bus that entertained > the > > crowd with wheelies in the parking lot, The car was 'sectioned' lengthwise > to > > remove the side door and put back together. The wheel base length, well, > let's > > call it short... http://www.pbase.com/egillis/image/127566922 > > > > Enjoy your ride! > > > > Eric G > > ________________________________________ > > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/wrenchorhammer at live.co > m > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/wrenchorhammer at live.co m From notoptoy at live.com Tue Aug 17 21:08:21 2010 From: notoptoy at live.com (Tom Lorick) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 23:08:21 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Class win at last week's Monterey Concours In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congratulations, your bribery was creative and quite in keeping with the theme. Your Roadster is outstanding and deserving of the prize. Great pictures thanks for sharing Eric! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:40 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 4, Issue 306 Send Datsun-roadsters mailing list submissions to datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at datsun-roadsters-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Datsun-roadsters digest..." From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 17 21:35:48 2010 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:35:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 212 for sale In-Reply-To: <09E4074C0F830C458934327282278BF00530DF8C@EDWEXVS01.hills.hillsad.com> References: <09E4074C0F830C458934327282278BF00530DF8C@EDWEXVS01.hills.hillsad.com> Message-ID: <4C6B5514.2050609@sbcglobal.net> /O6imez: Permission denied From dave at eastcoastroadster.com Tue Aug 17 22:13:54 2010 From: dave at eastcoastroadster.com (dave) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 00:13:54 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] lovely 1/2 of a 212, alternative In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5D97DA62665F45C5AC368DCB65F072D1@delled48909442> Better yet, cut it thin, like the fake buildings on a movie set and break it down in 3 or 4 pieces. Then we ship it from owner to owner. You put it in the driveway, angled correctly, just to scare the Wife, take video, post the video and ship it to the next guy. We could even build the camera into it...... No, sorry, that's getting silly. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Brian Parks [mailto:joedatsun at att.net] make it into a Datsun Barbecue and tow it to Shasta and Solvang! On Aug 17, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Brian Parks wrote: > nice > > On Aug 17, 2010, at 4:35 PM, O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS) wrote: > >> OK, so in trying to keep on topic, if one side of the car is smashed up, >> and it is regarded has styling reminiscent of "escapee from >> merry-go-round" or whatever they said on the BAT website review, I think >> a plasma cut right down the center, a bit of welded steel rack, and >> mount it on the wall of the living as gearhead art is in order. >> >> Just trying to keep a sense of humor in all of the mess being thrown >> out. >> >> Fergus O >> 69 2000, starting to prep for SoCal TT in October From SConway at fielders.com.au Tue Aug 17 22:40:32 2010 From: SConway at fielders.com.au (Sam Conway) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 14:10:32 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] lovely 1/2 of a 212, alternative Message-ID: <09E4074C0F830C458934327282278BF00530DF9A@EDWEXVS01.hills.hillsad.com> Does anyone have an email for the guy I might be interested in having it sent to australia ----- Original Message ----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net To: Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net Sent: Wed Aug 18 13:43:54 2010 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] lovely 1/2 of a 212, alternative Better yet, cut it thin, like the fake buildings on a movie set and break it down in 3 or 4 pieces. Then we ship it from owner to owner. You put it in the driveway, angled correctly, just to scare the Wife, take video, post the video and ship it to the next guy. We could even build the camera into it...... No, sorry, that's getting silly. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Brian Parks [mailto:joedatsun at att.net] make it into a Datsun Barbecue and tow it to Shasta and Solvang! On Aug 17, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Brian Parks wrote: > nice > > On Aug 17, 2010, at 4:35 PM, O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS) wrote: > >> OK, so in trying to keep on topic, if one side of the car is smashed up, >> and it is regarded has styling reminiscent of "escapee from >> merry-go-round" or whatever they said on the BAT website review, I think >> a plasma cut right down the center, a bit of welded steel rack, and >> mount it on the wall of the living as gearhead art is in order. >> >> Just trying to keep a sense of humor in all of the mess being thrown >> out. >> >> Fergus O >> 69 2000, starting to prep for SoCal TT in October ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/sconway at fielders.com.au From pat at hornesystemstx.com Wed Aug 18 05:18:33 2010 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 06:18:33 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Smoker Message-ID: <4C6BC189.3030606@hornesystemstx.com> I tried sending this yesterday, but it didn't go. Try connecting an air compressor the #2 spark plug with both intake an exhaust valves closed. Listen at the carb inlet, tail pipe, oil filler and see if any air is escaping. Also check the cap on the thermostat housing, looking for bubbles. Finally, spray the joint between the head and block with soapy water and see if any bubbles are blown. Good luck. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Eddie, On 8/16/2010 6:45 PM: compression should be close to equal in all cylinders. Clearly #2 has an issue. It could be rings, OR it could be a bad valve too. Perhaps a valve isn't seating properly. If you're lucky, it might be just that. Eddie Dave Cooke wrote: OK, Mike, this can't be good news... this evenings Compression test results Cylinder 1- 200 2- 70 3- 180 4- 190 Cylinder with oil 1-220 2-75 3-195 4-205 -Dave Cooke -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From pat at hornesystemstx.com Wed Aug 18 05:19:33 2010 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 06:19:33 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Class win at last week's Monterey Concours Message-ID: <4C6BC1C5.4070808@hornesystemstx.com> Eric, Back in the late 60's there was a foreign auto parts house that had a bus like this for their small deliveries. The also had one that was much longer. They cut the side door section out of one bus and welded it back together like the one pictured. They then cut the other van behind the front seats, turned the previously cut out door section in backwards, so the two "new" doors were on the driver's side. They used to park the two vans parallel out front of their business in 2 standard parking places, just one only using about half a parking place, and the other using 1.5 parking places. They really turned heads the first time you saw them! Peace, Pat Thusly spake Eric Gillis, On 8/17/2010 8:41 PM: Gotcha to look! Good people of the Group! 'Worst of Show' was the most awesome 'shortened' VW bus that entertained the crowd with wheelies in the parking lot, The car was 'sectioned' lengthwise to remove the side door and put back together. The wheel base length, well, let's call it short... http://www.pbase.com/egillis/image/127566922 Enjoy your ride! Eric G -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From dscrib2 at hotmail.com Wed Aug 18 05:30:46 2010 From: dscrib2 at hotmail.com (Dana Scribner) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 07:30:46 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Watkins Glen Message-ID: Just a reminder that Watkins Glen is just a couple of weeks away. weather permitting DRONE will have another cookout on Friday night. If you would like to attend please let us know ahead of time. Dana S From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Wed Aug 18 05:42:37 2010 From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 04:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Smoker In-Reply-To: <4C6BC189.3030606@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: <146687.3483.qm@web51108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Check the valve clearance first. --- On Wed, 8/18/10, Pat Horne wrote: From: Pat Horne Subject: [Roadsters] Smoker To: "datsun Roadster List" Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 7:18 AM I tried sending this yesterday, but it didn't go. Try connecting an air compressor the #2 spark plug with both intake an exhaust valves closed. Listen at the carb inlet, tail pipe, oil filler and see if any air is escaping. Also check the cap on the thermostat housing, looking for bubbles. Finally, spray the joint between the head and block with soapy water and see if any bubbles are blown. Good luck. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Eddie, On 8/16/2010 6:45 PM: compression should be close to equal in all cylinders. Clearly #2 has an issue. It could be rings, OR it could be a bad valve too. Perhaps a valve isn't seating properly. If you're lucky, it might be just that. Eddie Dave Cooke wrote: OK, Mike, this can't be good news... this evenings Compression test results Cylinder 1- 200 2- 70 3- 180 4- 190 Cylinder with oil 1-220 2-75 3-195 4-205 -Dave Cooke -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Aug 18 08:56:31 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 07:56:31 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] lovely 1/2 of a 212, alternative In-Reply-To: <5D97DA62665F45C5AC368DCB65F072D1@delled48909442> References: <5D97DA62665F45C5AC368DCB65F072D1@delled48909442> Message-ID: <003601cb3ee5$8bd55d00$a3801700$@net> That's hilarious, Dave. Flat Stanley, Roadster Edition. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dave Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:14 PM To: Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] lovely 1/2 of a 212, alternative Better yet, cut it thin, like the fake buildings on a movie set and break it down in 3 or 4 pieces. Then we ship it from owner to owner. You put it in the driveway, angled correctly, just to scare the Wife, take video, post the video and ship it to the next guy. We could even build the camera into it...... No, sorry, that's getting silly. Dave From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net Wed Aug 18 09:20:16 2010 From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 08:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Meeting - Houston, TX - August 21st, 8PM - Planet Zero Meet Message-ID: <358865.76266.qm@web81706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This coming weekend there is a import car gathering in Houston, TX called: Access Zero. This is the largest and most successful car gathering in Houston for import fans. The Nissan/Datsun owners will be hanging out together at the show. Please come and join the fun. http://311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=12511 Access Zero 52 Planet Zero Anime Center 11920A Westheimer, Houston, TX 77077 Tel: 281-531-ZERO Date: Saturday, August 21th, 2010 Time: Parking starts at 8PM From lesterlee at gmail.com Wed Aug 18 11:53:59 2010 From: lesterlee at gmail.com (Lester Lee) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:53:59 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Df On Aug 18, 2010 4:55 AM, "Dana Scribner" wrote: Just a reminder that Watkins Glen is just a couple of weeks away. weather permitting DRONE will have another cookout on Friday night. If you would like to attend please let us know ahead of time. Dana S ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/lesterlee at gmail.com From chalsted at comcast.net Wed Aug 18 12:28:17 2010 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:28:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <412660837.102090.1282156097167.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Elaine will be posting the itinerary for the weekend on the DRONE site this evening. something new this year- Jack at Hazlitt is setting up a run for us on saturday afternoon. check the DRONE site later for more details Craig From stl at adnc.com Wed Aug 18 13:31:54 2010 From: stl at adnc.com (stl at adnc.com) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 12:31:54 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Class win at last week's Monterey Concours In-Reply-To: <8CD0C9059FDFB40-1490-3BEF@webmail-m084.sysops.aol.com> References: , <24320CF0-1C32-4F3D-A77C-618B1F702EEF@att.net> <8CD0C9059FDFB40-1490-3BEF@webmail-m084.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20100818123154.1533574jjjtq6cyy@webmail.americanis.net> ... and apparently the folks at the PB Concours d'Elegance are beginning to catch a clue. There is a current "story" on MSN showing the 10 "Coolest Cars" among the Monterey Historics and two of them are Datsuns; a '67 Bluebird Coupe and a '72 BRE 510. Can a Roadster be far behind? Steve Landuyt '69 2000 San Diego Quoting ljordan704 at netscape.net: > This has got to boost the value of our cars! Anyone who doesn't > think so is a > butthead! > LOL > > Linda > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Gillis > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Tue, Aug 17, 2010 6:41 pm > Subject: [Roadsters] Class win at last week's Monterey Concours > > > Gotcha to look! > > Good people of the Group! > > I have no idea how this weighs in on the current discussion of Roadster > market > value, but I did want pass along that the mighty Roadster has scored a class > win at this year's Monterey Concours d'Lemons! > > A trophy of a stuffed bass (sushi in the raw), and plaque from the > 'Soul-Sucking Japanese Appliance' class were awarded! Bribes were tough, as > many of the judges were still nursing hangovers from the party the night > before, however shrewd planning (I brought Datsun Roadster tees) and well > placed personal compliments to the judges delivered where sake and SaveMart > sushi failed! http://www.pbase.com/egillis/image/127566924 > > 'Worst of Show' was the most awesome 'shortened' VW bus that entertained the > crowd with wheelies in the parking lot, The car was 'sectioned' lengthwise to > remove the side door and put back together. The wheel base length, well, > let's > call it short... http://www.pbase.com/egillis/image/127566922 > > Enjoy your ride! > > Eric G > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne > t > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/stl at adnc.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From eddietude at socal.rr.com Wed Aug 18 09:55:04 2010 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 08:55:04 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Custom Making an Interior Message-ID: <4C6C0258.30609@socal.rr.com> Thought I'd share this info, as it saved me a TON of $$$. (And since some like to accuse me of never contributing...which I find hysterical for numerous reasons... anyway) Custom Interior. Home Depot sells the thin "cardboard like" fiber panel. It's about 1/8" to 3/16" thick. Brown. Same material as "pegboard" but without the holes. One 4 x 4 sheet should do the entire car. Use the old panels as templates. Cut out the Doors, footwells, the funny shaped vertical "arch" piece that goes over the rear wheel wells, and the rear panel. Then you can get almost any color, texture, etc, of vinyl from a vinyl shop. Some sewing places also sell the stuff. There's a place here in LA called "Foam Mart" that literally has hundreds and hundreds of colors, textures, etc. Stuff ranges in price, and is sold "by the yard". I think I paid $30 a yard (or thereabouts) for basic black. Some stuff was less, some really exotic ones were more. I also got a thin foam layer, which was used under the vinyl on anything that was backed with the cardboard like stuff, like the door panels, etc. The entire car should be able to be done with I THINK 4 or 5 yards, if you're careful about laying it all out. I think I used 5 yards, but had a bunch left over. (I also did NOT recover the center console sides, or the sides of the heater control box thing with vinyl, and instead had those powercoated black.) When you cut the vinyl, leave a decent amount of excess. Easier to trim off than it is to "add" more... Use 3M vinyl glue to adhere the vinyl to the "cardboard" you cut out. Use a LOT of the 3m glue, and let it sit and get tacky. Sometimes it takes several coats of the stuff. You'll go through at LEAST 4 cans for the entire car. On the areas where the vinyl is glued right to the vehicle, you spray the 3M on the metal, let it get tacky, and then clamp the vinyl to the car, where possible. Hardest part is the rear wheel arches. If you soak the vinyl with 3M, it gets more maleable and makes it easier to "pull out" the wrinkles. You likely won't get all of them out, but you'll get most. I didn't do "pockets" in the doors, but if you wanted to sew some in, I'm sure that would work. I played around with a sewing machine, and the stuff is sewable, but my sewing skills are lousy. Hope that helps! From Eddie, The guy who never contributes.. lol From chalsted at comcast.net Wed Aug 18 17:16:47 2010 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 23:16:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: The Glen In-Reply-To: <1218481543.113482.1282173329099.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1041502928.113500.1282173407150.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> to the roadster population at large...from Elaine Datsun Roadsters at The Glen September 8-12, 2010 Wednesday, September 8th- Craig and I will arrive at Watkins Glen State Park around 3 PM. and be tenting on Tuscarora Loop site # 291. Thursday, September 9, 2010 All roadsters in town who want to join in this run around Seneca Lake, please meet at The Glen Market on Franklin Street at 10 AM. Craig and I will lead the group up the west side of the lake and 1st stop at Lakewood Winery. Our 2nd stop will be at Prejean Winery for so more sampling. We will continue to Geneva and The Belhurst Castle for a buffet lunch at Edgar's at 1:00 PM. Lunch run $9.95 for the buffet and it is a very intriguing place on the lake. After lunch we will continue down the east side of the lake, stopping at Wagner Vineyard and Leidenfrost Vineyard. Thursday evening is on your own. If there are wineries you would rather go to, just let me know. It will not break my heart. Friday, September 10, 2010 Many roadsters will be involved in the winery car rallies and will meet us down on Franklin Street for the festivities. Fred Davidson has managed to secure group parking in a prime location at the icecream stand on Franklin Street next to the Burger King. Please contact Fred if you want to reserve a spot for your roadster. At 4:30 PM, we will gather up on Datsun Hill to cheer on any Datsun we see in the race reenactment. Around 6:00 PM, DRONE will be throwing their annual cookout at the Golden Knight Inn. Please bring food or drink to share. Come for the great food and roadster talk. Now for Saturday, September 11, 2010 Come join us at Watkins Glen State Park parking lot on Franklin Street for our Show n' Shine. Bring your Datsun (any make or model) show condition or in primer. Vote for your favorites in several different categories. Come early 7:30 AM and stay till 11 or 12. Lunch is on your own. We would like all Datsuns to meet at the Walmart Parking Lot at 1 PM for our 1st ever Datsun Road Rallye sponsored by Hazlitt Winery and created by Jack McCormick. I am sure it will be a great time for all, so make sure you gas up before meeting us. The Rallye will bring us back to Hazlitt Winery for a wine tasting and our annual get together. I have spoken with Derrick who provided our meal last year. He is planning our menu of Pulled Pork Barbeque, Barbeques Beef Briskit, Salt Potatoes, Coleslaw and Rolls and butter. Ice tea and coffee will also be provided. The cost this year is $15.00 per person and we will have plenty of food as long as I have reservations by September 3rd. I need to know by September 1st if people are still looking forward to this. Dinner will be by 6 PM followed by Awards and door prizes. A cash bar will be available. Sunday, September 12, 2010 Early on Sunday, many of us meet at Curly's for breakfast. Come early and talk roadsters. Some will head home, others will go to the track for the races. As you know this has continued to be a slow year for many businesses and we are low on donations. Please dig deep into your stockpiles of roadster parts and donate to our Saturday night drawing. Any prizes will be greatly appreciated. I will be ordering the trophies next week unless someone is creative and wants to make them. As you know we always have t-shirts for sale at the Show n' Shine. Please plan on purchasing yours. Funds from these help with the costs of planning this event. We are looking forward to a great meet in 2011 when Datsun will be the featured car at The Glen. Please email me back with reservations or any feedback to either Craig's email at chalsted at comcast.net or Elaine. Halsted at dss.virginia.gov or call my cell at 540-631-8646. I know this email is running close to the meet but it has been a hectic time for me at work. I look forward to hearing from all of you with suggestions and reservations. Here's to a great 2010 Meet at The Glen. Elaine Elaine M. Halsted VIEW Employment Services Representative Warren County DSS 912 Warren Ave. Front Royal, VA 22630 540-635-3967 ext.3334 fax: 540-631-8451 Elaine.Halsted at dss.virginia.gov From elementaladventure at gmail.com Tue Aug 17 21:26:03 2010 From: elementaladventure at gmail.com (Elemental Adventure) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:26:03 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] List removal. Message-ID: <4C6B52CB.2030205@gmail.com> Not sure who is the one playing childish games, but I just got an email saying someone tried to remove me from the list. Cute. Now knock off the little games... lol From GCallahan at prodigy.net Wed Aug 18 22:21:40 2010 From: GCallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] List removal. Message-ID: <348615.38296.qm@web81001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I had the same thing happen to me! I had to go to the web site to cancel the cancelation. What's going on here? Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster Sent from a Luddite's iPhone! :~) On Aug 17, 2010, at 8:26 PM, Elemental Adventure wrote: Not sure who is the one playing childish games, but I just got an email saying someone tried to remove me from the list. Cute. Now knock off the little games... lol ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcallahan at prodigy.net From roadster at astound.net Wed Aug 18 22:40:45 2010 From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:40:45 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Custom Making an Interior In-Reply-To: <4C6C0258.30609@socal.rr.com> References: <4C6C0258.30609@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: I've done this wih my cars - does save a lot of money, and you can use any color material you find. Part of my 66 interior has stars & stripes material as a patriotic theme. For the "cardboard like" material, you can soak it in water, then shape it for curves and bends. Dry it with a heat gun. I've used contact cement similar to 3M, Grip, thinly applied to both surfaces. After mating surfaces roll with a wooden roller to smooth them out. Fred - So.SF On Aug 18, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Eddie wrote: > Thought I'd share this info, as it saved me a TON of $$$. > > (And since some like to accuse me of never contributing...which I find hysterical for numerous reasons... anyway) > > Custom Interior. > > Home Depot sells the thin "cardboard like" fiber panel. It's about 1/8" to 3/16" thick. Brown. Same material as "pegboard" but without the holes. One 4 x 4 sheet should do the entire car. > < snip > > Hope that helps! > From Eddie, > The guy who never contributes.. lol From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Wed Aug 18 23:21:13 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 22:21:13 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Change focus Message-ID: i just did 1000 miles in 2 days and got no comments - yet we are all worked up about sniping and vitriolic comments - one can only wonder Peter Eliza From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Wed Aug 18 23:34:33 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 22:34:33 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] all that has to be said has been said Message-ID: i'm just tired of opening up my emails and getting to & fro comments - i have owned roadsters since 1976 - i love them as well as other cars that come to mind - this is NOT the forum for whining, bitching, complaints unless it to inform knock it off or keep it private, i just don't want to know. peter (Toad San ) Van Nuys From ljordan704 at netscape.net Wed Aug 18 23:42:55 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 01:42:55 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Change focus In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CD0D7881DEED70-18F8-7BE8@webmail-m009.sysops.aol.com> We need more detail. What did you see? How did the car run? See any other Roadsters? How was the show? Any pics? More info encourages more comment. Ya know what I mean? Linda -----Original Message----- From: peter harrison To: datsun Sent: Wed, Aug 18, 2010 10:21 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Change focus i just did 1000 miles in 2 days and got no comments - yet we are all worked up about sniping and vitriolic comments - one can only wonder Peter Eliza ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From RWM at RWMann.com Thu Aug 19 05:19:26 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 07:19:26 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Change focus In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C6D133E.4070906@RWMann.com> Still fatigued from reading your epic account! - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex peter harrison wrote: > i just did 1000 miles in 2 days and got no comments - yet we are all worked up > about sniping and vitriolic comments - one can only wonder > > Peter Eliza From ljordan704 at netscape.net Thu Aug 19 07:58:50 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 09:58:50 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Change focus In-Reply-To: <4C6D133E.4070906@RWMann.com> References: <4C6D133E.4070906@RWMann.com> Message-ID: <8CD0DBDC802BB80-BA4-DA4B@webmail-m098.sysops.aol.com> You must have been reading between the lines.....? Linda -----Original Message----- From: RWM To: Datsun Roadster Listserver Sent: Thu, Aug 19, 2010 4:19 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Change focus Still fatigued from reading your epic account! - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex peter harrison wrote: > i just did 1000 miles in 2 days and got no comments - yet we are all worked up > about sniping and vitriolic comments - one can only wonder > > Peter Eliza ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.net From twobeaners at earthlink.net Thu Aug 19 08:52:51 2010 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 09:52:51 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Change focus References: <4C6D133E.4070906@RWMann.com> <8CD0DBDC802BB80-BA4-DA4B@webmail-m098.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Pete, You need to be a bit more loquacious and effuse the description of your trip with some vibrant details. Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Change focus > You must have been reading between the lines.....? > Linda > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: RWM > To: Datsun Roadster Listserver > Sent: Thu, Aug 19, 2010 4:19 am > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Change focus > > > Still fatigued from reading your epic account! > > - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex > > > peter harrison wrote: >> i just did 1000 miles in 2 days and got no comments - yet we are all >> worked > up >> about sniping and vitriolic comments - one can only wonder >> >> Peter Eliza From lmflaming at comcast.net Thu Aug 19 09:14:53 2010 From: lmflaming at comcast.net (lmflaming at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 15:14:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Extra Keys Message-ID: <1747589454.65130.1282230893624.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Does anyone know who might sell blank keys that will fit my 66? Larry From RWM at RWMann.com Thu Aug 19 09:15:32 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 11:15:32 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Change focus In-Reply-To: <8CD0DBDC802BB80-BA4-DA4B@webmail-m098.sysops.aol.com> References: <4C6D133E.4070906@RWMann.com> <8CD0DBDC802BB80-BA4-DA4B@webmail-m098.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4C6D4A94.7000408@RWMann.com> "Saturday got up at 5:30 - off to Riverside for a SOCALROC run to Big Bear for a car show (mostly rods - not my thing - but beautifully designed, executed and painted) - saw a teal that would look great on a roadster. then a bbq at the Dicksons and then to Monterey for day 3 of the historics - like Joseph and Mary - NO accomodation to be found between Paso Robles and Salinas. Finally slept in the car @ 3AM (thank god for mazda reclining seats) under a tree to stop the mist from settling and helped by the soporific effects of Mr Smirnoff. Watched all the races except for the F1 final and drove back to LA. Speedo indicates 900 miles driven in 2 days. One of the race cars was a Zagato bodied DB4 - totally polished aluminum (and flawless) - value - in excess of $2 MILLION - and he was RACING it - great couple of days." ...or not? ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: > You must have been reading between the lines.....? > Linda > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: RWM > To: Datsun Roadster Listserver > Sent: Thu, Aug 19, 2010 4:19 am > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Change focus > > > Still fatigued from reading your epic account! > > - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex > > > peter harrison wrote: > >> i just did 1000 miles in 2 days and got no comments - yet we are all worked >> > up > >> about sniping and vitriolic comments - one can only wonder >> >> Peter Eliza >> > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rwm at rwmann.com > > -- R.W. Mann & Company, Inc. >> Airline Industry Analysis Port Washington, NY 11050 >> tel 516-944-0900, fax -7280 mailto:info at RWMann.com >> URL http://www.RWMann.com/ This e-mail is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the above sender immediately then delete the original e-mail. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. From tputland at charter.net Thu Aug 19 09:47:10 2010 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 8:47:10 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Change focus In-Reply-To: <4C6D4A94.7000408@RWMann.com> Message-ID: <20100819114710.OCJAN.7772974.root@mp13> I remember seeing this post when it was first sent out. Maybe no one else did? ---- RWM wrote: ============= "Saturday got up at 5:30 - off to Riverside for a SOCALROC run to Big Bear for a car show (mostly rods - not my thing - but beautifully designed, executed and painted) - saw a teal that would look great on a roadster. then a bbq at the Dicksons and then to Monterey for day 3 of the historics - like Joseph and Mary - NO accomodation to be found between Paso Robles and Salinas. Finally slept in the car @ 3AM (thank god for mazda reclining seats) under a tree to stop the mist from settling and helped by the soporific effects of Mr Smirnoff. Watched all the races except for the F1 final and drove back to LA. Speedo indicates 900 miles driven in 2 days. One of the race cars was a Zagato bodied DB4 - totally polished aluminum (and flawless) - value - in excess of $2 MILLION - and he was RACING it - great couple of days." ...or not? ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: > You must have been reading between the lines.....? > Linda > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: RWM > To: Datsun Roadster Listserver > Sent: Thu, Aug 19, 2010 4:19 am > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Change focus > > > Still fatigued from reading your epic account! > > - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex > > > peter harrison wrote: > >> i just did 1000 miles in 2 days and got no comments - yet we are all worked >> > up > >> about sniping and vitriolic comments - one can only wonder >> >> Peter Eliza >> > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rwm at rwmann.com > > -- R.W. Mann & Company, Inc. >> Airline Industry Analysis Port Washington, NY 11050 >> tel 516-944-0900, fax -7280 mailto:info at RWMann.com >> URL http://www.RWMann.com/ This e-mail is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the above sender immediately then delete the original e-mail. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net From mark at bradakis.com Thu Aug 19 11:02:04 2010 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 11:02:04 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Out of town a bit Message-ID: <20100819170204.728EA2E0D2@bradakis.com> I'm heading to Topeka, Kansas for the vintage race this weekend. You folks behave yourselves while I'm gone, I'll get to some of the Team.Net issues when I return. mjb. From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Aug 19 11:39:25 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:39:25 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Change focus In-Reply-To: <20100819114710.OCJAN.7772974.root@mp13> References: <4C6D4A94.7000408@RWMann.com> <20100819114710.OCJAN.7772974.root@mp13> Message-ID: <004c01cb3fc5$77e8e510$67baaf30$@net> Maybe because without pics it never happened? JUST KIDDING!!! Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:47 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; RWM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Change focus I remember seeing this post when it was first sent out. Maybe no one else did? ---- RWM wrote: ============= "Saturday got up at 5:30 - off to Riverside for a SOCALROC run to Big Bear for a car show (mostly rods - not my thing - but beautifully designed, executed and painted) - saw a teal that would look great on a roadster. then a bbq at the Dicksons and then to Monterey for day 3 of the historics - like Joseph and Mary - NO accommodation to be found between Paso Robles and Salinas. Finally slept in the car @ 3AM (thank god for mazda reclining seats) under a tree to stop the mist from settling and helped by the soporific effects of Mr Smirnoff. Watched all the races except for the F1 final and drove back to LA. Speedo indicates 900 miles driven in 2 days. One of the race cars was a Zagato bodied DB4 - totally polished aluminum (and flawless) - value - in excess of $2 MILLION - and he was RACING it - great couple of days." From tasker1968 at comcast.net Thu Aug 19 12:13:21 2010 From: tasker1968 at comcast.net (Owen) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 11:13:21 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Eventfull weekend in the NW Message-ID: Roadster BBQ at Bill's in Shedd, OR. 8/21/10 Road Run 11 AM - 2 PM Oregon International Air Show in Hillsboro, OR. - Aug. 20 to 22 - F/A -18s Hornets, Marine Corps AV-8B Harrier (jump jets) Banks Tractor Pull & BBQ in Banks, OR. - Aug. 20 to 22 - Saturday, Car show, Truck Pull - Sunday, Tractor & Truck Pull, Combine Destruction derby, Truck Tug-of-War, Car Blow Up. Wapato Showdown in Gaston, OR. - Aug. 21 - 8 AM to 3:30 PM - Big Car & Motorcycle Show - Best Pipes Contest All event details can be found online. So many fun things to do on the same weekend, what to do? Owen 68' 2000 Roadster From keithddowning at yahoo.com Thu Aug 19 12:14:59 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 11:14:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Change focus In-Reply-To: <004c01cb3fc5$77e8e510$67baaf30$@net> References: <4C6D4A94.7000408@RWMann.com> <20100819114710.OCJAN.7772974.root@mp13> <004c01cb3fc5$77e8e510$67baaf30$@net> Message-ID: <248225.27802.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> That's my take on it :-) Actually, I want to see pics, I wasn't able to go on the Fun Run and Picinic. Keith ________________________________ From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Thu, August 19, 2010 10:39:25 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Change focus Maybe because without pics it never happened? JUST KIDDING!!! Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:47 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; RWM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Change focus I remember seeing this post when it was first sent out. Maybe no one else did? ---- RWM wrote: ============= "Saturday got up at 5:30 - off to Riverside for a SOCALROC run to Big Bear for a car show (mostly rods - not my thing - but beautifully designed, executed and painted) - saw a teal that would look great on a roadster. then a bbq at the Dicksons and then to Monterey for day 3 of the historics - like Joseph and Mary - NO accommodation to be found between Paso Robles and Salinas. Finally slept in the car @ 3AM (thank god for mazda reclining seats) under a tree to stop the mist from settling and helped by the soporific effects of Mr Smirnoff. Watched all the races except for the F1 final and drove back to LA. Speedo indicates 900 miles driven in 2 days. One of the race cars was a Zagato bodied DB4 - totally polished aluminum (and flawless) - value - in excess of $2 MILLION - and he was RACING it - great couple of days." ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.com From roadster at astound.net Thu Aug 19 12:51:52 2010 From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 11:51:52 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Extra Keys In-Reply-To: <1747589454.65130.1282230893624.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1747589454.65130.1282230893624.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <240074CB-6C53-432E-A500-F2F186A14265@astound.net> I have found key blanks on eBay. There are two key blanks available, only the long one works all locks including trunk and console. The long key to access all locks on a 1966 roadster had the descriptor title on eBay: Key blank Taylor D74E D. L.. DT6 Datsun Nissan 1966-1970 You're in luck, there is one available on eBay. The shorter valet key for door and ignition only had the descriptor title on eBay: Key blank Dominion Lock DT1 Datsun Nissan 1966-1970 D74F My keys look like the Dominion keys, except for having a Griffin and Nissan logo in the center of the square key head on both sides. Fred - So.SF BADROC On Aug 19, 2010, at 8:14 AM, lmflaming at comcast.net wrote: > Does anyone know who might sell blank keys that will fit my 66? > > Larry > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/roadster at astound.net From roadster at astound.net Thu Aug 19 12:55:26 2010 From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 11:55:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Extra Keys In-Reply-To: <1747589454.65130.1282230893624.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1747589454.65130.1282230893624.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <41AC4E9D-13AC-4207-A34A-DECBE153C905@astound.net> I have found key blanks on eBay. There are two key blanks available, only the long one works all locks including trunk and console. The long key to access all locks on a 1966 roadster had the descriptor title on eBay: Key blank Taylor D74E D. L.. DT6 Datsun Nissan 1966-1970 You're in luck, there is one available on eBay. The shorter valet key for door and ignition only had the descriptor title on eBay: Key blank Dominion Lock DT1 Datsun Nissan 1966-1970 D74F My keys look like the Dominion keys, except for having a Griffin and Nissan logo in the center of the square key head on both sides. Fred - So.SF BADROC On Aug 19, 2010, at 8:14 AM, lmflaming at comcast.net wrote: > Does anyone know who might sell blank keys that will fit my 66? > > Larry From stl at adnc.com Thu Aug 19 13:34:35 2010 From: stl at adnc.com (stl at adnc.com) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:34:35 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Speed Fest on Coronado Sept. 25 and 26 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20100819123435.86083ybrrqeg5yrv@webmail.americanis.net> Roadsterites, Reminder: The Speed Fest on Coronado (San Diego) will be held this year on the last weekend in September (25 & 26). Check details out on line. See a lot of great cars, meet friendly people, watch the races (including a few Datsuns), meander through the pits, stroll the exhibits, enjoy the setting (North Island NAS) ... it all makes for a very enjoyable couple of days. And to boot, being out among cars and car people helps keep everything in perspective. Peter, I enjoyed reading about your trip to the Historics in Monterrey. How about driving Eliza down to Coronado for Speed Fest? Steve Landuyt '69 2000 San Diego ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From kemp_l at hotmail.com Thu Aug 19 14:14:49 2010 From: kemp_l at hotmail.com (Kemp LaMunyon Sr.) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 13:14:49 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] North West Stuff? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Anything else goiing this year? on the eastern side of washington state or n.e. oregon? Thanks Kemp From GCallahan at prodigy.net Thu Aug 19 16:07:15 2010 From: GCallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 15:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Eventfull weekend in the NW Message-ID: <927179.95180.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I hope to see many of you at Bill's, in Shedd, for the big Roadster BBQ on Saturday. It is always a lot of fun with a great drive around the countryside followed by a fun BBQ with some terrific Roadster people. Oh, and some really beautiful Datsun Roadsters. Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1969 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster Sent from a Luddite's iPhone! :~) On Aug 19, 2010, at 11:13 AM, "Owen" wrote: Roadster BBQ at Bill's in Shedd, OR. 8/21/10 Road Run 11 AM - 2 PM Oregon International Air Show in Hillsboro, OR. - Aug. 20 to 22 - F/A -18s Hornets, Marine Corps AV-8B Harrier (jump jets) Banks Tractor Pull & BBQ in Banks, OR. - Aug. 20 to 22 - Saturday, Car show, Truck Pull - Sunday, Tractor & Truck Pull, Combine Destruction derby, Truck Tug-of-War, Car Blow Up. Wapato Showdown in Gaston, OR. - Aug. 21 - 8 AM to 3:30 PM - Big Car & Motorcycle Show - Best Pipes Contest All event details can be found online. So many fun things to do on the same weekend, what to do? Owen 68' 2000 Roadster ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcallahan at prodigy.net From datrock at centurytel.net Thu Aug 19 16:44:25 2010 From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 15:44:25 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Eventfull weekend in the NW In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C6DB3C9.1060305@centurytel.net> I hope to see a bunch of the northwest roadsters this Saturday at Bill and Karen Neal's BBQ in Shedd, Oregon. The BBQ will start after the fun run and last through the evening hours. Owen, is your car back on the road?? Bill From lmflaming at comcast.net Thu Aug 19 17:26:38 2010 From: lmflaming at comcast.net (lmflaming at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 23:26:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] 66 key blanks In-Reply-To: <4C6D803F.7030807@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <1507991694.93655.1282260398476.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Thanks to everyone, I ordered 4 keys from E-bay Larry Flaming 66 ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Szakovits" To: lmflaming at comcast.net Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 1:04:31 PM Subject: 66 key blanks hi, i recently bought keys for my 66. B You need to be careful though as different lock numbers during the same year can require a different blank number/pattern. B In my case DT6 was the right blank. B My hardware store traced my pattern to the blanks for free! B datsunroadster.com has some good information that may help you determine the correct blank for your car. http://www.mrlock.com/ This was my order. Quan B Item No. B B Description B B B B B B B B B B B B B B Price B B B B Extension ---- ----------- ------------------------------- -------------- ---------------- B B 3 B DT6 B B B B Key blank, Datsun/Nissan D74E B B B B B $5.25 B B B B B $15.75 B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B SUBTOTAL B B B B B B B B $15.75 B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B SALES TAX B B B B B B B B $0.00 B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B SHIPPING B B B B B B B B $8.89 B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B ORDER TOTAL B B B B B B $24.64 Hope this helps. djs From ljordan704 at netscape.net Thu Aug 19 17:57:52 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 19:57:52 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Change focus In-Reply-To: <004c01cb3fc5$77e8e510$67baaf30$@net> References: <4C6D4A94.7000408@RWMann.com><20100819114710.OCJAN.7772974.root@mp13> <004c01cb3fc5$77e8e510$67baaf30$@net> Message-ID: <8CD0E11782FDEF4-10C4-A3D4@webmail-m065.sysops.aol.com> Missed the narrative, however still would like to see some pics?? Linda -----Original Message----- From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:39 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Change focus Maybe because without pics it never happened? JUST KIDDING!!! Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:47 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; RWM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Change focus I remember seeing this post when it was first sent out. Maybe no one else did? ---- RWM wrote: ============= "Saturday got up at 5:30 - off to Riverside for a SOCALROC run to Big Bear for a car show (mostly rods - not my thing - but beautifully designed, executed and painted) - saw a teal that would look great on a roadster. then a bbq at the Dicksons and then to Monterey for day 3 of the historics - like Joseph and Mary - NO accommodation to be found between Paso Robles and Salinas. Finally slept in the car @ 3AM (thank god for mazda reclining seats) under a tree to stop the mist from settling and helped by the soporific effects of Mr Smirnoff. Watched all the races except for the F1 final and drove back to LA. Speedo indicates 900 miles driven in 2 days. One of the race cars was a Zagato bodied DB4 - totally polished aluminum (and flawless) - value - in excess of $2 MILLION - and he was RACING it - great couple of days." ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From escanlon at wa-net.com Thu Aug 19 21:48:02 2010 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:48:02 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Eventfull weekend in the NW - SHEDD OREGON BBQ References: <4C6DB3C9.1060305@centurytel.net> Message-ID: <08E90EA60C2345DF80CCDEC499693BF2@HPW> Mark Anderson and I are planning on meeting at the I-5 Rest Stop just South of Wilsonville @ 9:00 - 9:15 am to caravan in together. It's just past the Exit for the Wilsonville-Hubbard Hwy, Mile 282. Would anyone else want to join us? Gary, Owen? Leigh, Stubbs? Anyone I haven't mentioned? Our plan is to be there in time for the Road Run that starts at 11am, and hoping to be there at 10:30am (unless someone sees a flaw in our timing). For contact purposes: My cell phone: 360-931-6744 Wife's Cell : 360-901-0825 Both will be on. Enrique Scanlon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Cole" < To: "Owen" < Cc: < Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Eventfull weekend in the NW >I hope to see a bunch of the northwest roadsters this Saturday at Bill and >Karen Neal's BBQ in Shedd, Oregon. The BBQ will start after the fun run and >last through the evening hours. Owen, is your car back on the road?? Bill From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Fri Aug 20 00:34:23 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 23:34:23 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] proof of our Saturday Run to Big Bear Message-ID: if that doesn't work look up spl311u on youtube peter From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Fri Aug 20 00:35:16 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 23:35:16 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] big bear -n the proof Message-ID: http://youtu.be/VlYrc6WD28E From tom at datsun2000.com Fri Aug 20 08:41:57 2010 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 07:41:57 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] big bear -n the proof In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0EA5A5C6F61B4499ACD32EB9ED7A15B8@Compaq2> Peter, The other day I looked at the miniture digital video cameras and wondered what I would ever do with one of these things. Now I know. Great video. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter harrison" To: "datsun" Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 11:35 PM Subject: [Roadsters] big bear -n the proof > http://youtu.be/VlYrc6WD28E > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tom at datsun2000.com From ljordan704 at netscape.net Fri Aug 20 09:20:30 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:20:30 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Big Bear-the reviews are in Message-ID: <8CD0E925C40F8E3-17B0-EB06@webmail-d006.sysops.aol.com> Reviews are in for the movie, Big Bear, the Proof!!!: "Cinemotography at its finest"--Sven Bergman "Who knew stock Roadsters could haul ass like that" Alvin G "Thrilling, had me on the edge of my seat, cause I never drive that fast!"-Linda "A bit thin on dialogue, plot, and character development, who cares!" Peter = From alvingogi at gmail.com Fri Aug 20 09:48:04 2010 From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 08:48:04 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 24hrs of LeMons Report from ZCarGarage! Message-ID: Here is a detailed, colorful report from one of the team drivers with lots of pictures, dyno videos and more. It's the first time a vintage Datsun has placed in the top 10! http://www.zcarblog.com/ Enjoy. From gcallahan at prodigy.net Fri Aug 20 10:59:47 2010 From: gcallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 09:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] big bear -n the proof In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <578550.11546.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Pardon my ignorance; but, is the red Roadster, directly in front of you for most of the video, a 1500? That looked like a fun run. We will be having a fun run, up here in Oregon, this weekend, with a lot more trees though. Thanks for sharing! Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 --- On Thu, 8/19/10, peter harrison wrote: From: peter harrison Subject: [Roadsters] big bear -n the proof To: "datsun" Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 11:35 PM http://youtu.be/VlYrc6WD28E ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcallahan at prodigy.net From iamjosh2 at yahoo.com Fri Aug 20 11:39:16 2010 From: iamjosh2 at yahoo.com (Joshua) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:39:16 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster fenders Message-ID: <37F0DFC6-69F4-4129-8D86-83AB90E6D9B0@yahoo.com> From keithddowning at yahoo.com Fri Aug 20 12:08:34 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] big bear -n the proof In-Reply-To: <578550.11546.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <578550.11546.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <30369.41131.qm@web83308.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> No, it looks like a High Windshield car. ________________________________ From: Gary Callahan To: datsun ; peter harrison Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 9:59:47 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] big bear -n the proof Pardon my ignorance; but, is the red Roadster, directly in front of you for most of the video, a 1500? That looked like a fun run. We will be having a fun run, up here in Oregon, this weekend, with a lot more trees though. Thanks for sharing! Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 --- On Thu, 8/19/10, peter harrison wrote: From: peter harrison Subject: [Roadsters] big bear -n the proof To: "datsun" Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 11:35 PM http://youtu.be/VlYrc6WD28E ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcallahan at prodigy.net ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.com From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net Fri Aug 20 12:10:27 2010 From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] big bear -n the proof In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <909076.61216.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Peter, Great work! I only wish I could have stuck around long enough to drive down HWY 38 with U guys. That's a great drive. Thanks-Tom --- On Thu, 8/19/10, peter harrison wrote: From: peter harrison Subject: [Roadsters] big bear -n the proof To: "datsun" Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 11:35 PM http://youtu.be/VlYrc6WD28E ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tomet9 at sbcglobal.net From RWM at RWMann.com Fri Aug 20 12:45:12 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 14:45:12 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] big bear -n the proof In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C6ECD38.7070009@RWMann.com> From rabush2000 at hotmail.com Fri Aug 20 15:31:40 2010 From: rabush2000 at hotmail.com (richard bush) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 21:31:40 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Engine Bay/Trunk Message-ID: Greetings again from Austin. Does anyone know what the stock color of the engine bay and trunk? I seem to remember that they matched the exterior color of the car. Can anyone confirm this, please? Also, and I may be repeating myself but, a very warm Texas thanks to all those who replied to my earlier email concerning the gaskets. I must have received a dozen emails. Most appreciated. Have a great weekend. Rick R A Bush, P O Box 500003 Dubai, UAE; cell: ++971 50 456 4357 > Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 14:45:12 -0400 > From: RWM at RWMann.com > To: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] big bear -n the proof > > > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rabush2000 at hotmail.com From RWM at RWMann.com Fri Aug 20 16:36:10 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 18:36:10 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Engine Bay/Trunk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C6F035A.3010308@RWMann.com> From RWM at RWMann.com Fri Aug 20 17:22:58 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 19:22:58 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Engine Bay/Trunk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C6F0E52.6050509@RWMann.com> Richard, Trunk and engine compartment matched the exterior on both cars I've owned. That said, I painted the engine compartment white (on the current Imron red car) to help with in-compartment visibility. - Bob richard bush wrote: > Greetings again from Austin. > > Does anyone know what the stock color of the engine bay and trunk? I > seem to remember that they matched the exterior color of the car. > > Can anyone confirm this, please? > > Also, and I may be repeating myself but, a very warm Texas thanks to > all those who replied to my earlier email concerning the gaskets. I > must have received a dozen emails. Most appreciated. > > Have a great weekend. > > Rick > > R A Bush, P O Box 500003 Dubai, UAE; cell: ++971 50 456 4357 > > > > > Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 14:45:12 -0400 > > From: RWM at RWMann.com > > To: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] big bear -n the proof > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rabush2000 at hotmail.com -- R.W. Mann & Company, Inc. >> Airline Industry Analysis Port Washington, NY 11050 >> tel 516-944-0900, fax -7280 mailto:info at RWMann.com >> URL http://www.RWMann.com/ This e-mail is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the above sender immediately then delete the original e-mail. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. From RWM at RWMann.com Fri Aug 20 20:17:08 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 22:17:08 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] big bear -n the proof In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C6F3724.8030800@RWMann.com> Too bad you were stuck behind those slow-pokes up front... ;-) peter harrison wrote: > http://youtu.be/VlYrc6WD28E From shifty at shiftco.com Fri Aug 20 22:10:34 2010 From: shifty at shiftco.com (Leigh Brooks) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 21:10:34 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Eventfull weekend in the NW - SHEDD OREGON BBQ In-Reply-To: <08E90EA60C2345DF80CCDEC499693BF2@HPW> References: <4C6DB3C9.1060305@centurytel.net> <08E90EA60C2345DF80CCDEC499693BF2@HPW> Message-ID: <7D457708-F2FE-44EC-81B4-11C97669DDCD@shiftco.com> I'm trying to make it - won't know until the last minute! If I do go I'll try and meet up at the rest stop. Leigh On Aug 19, 2010, at 8:48 PM, E Scanlon wrote: > Mark Anderson and I are planning on meeting at the I-5 Rest Stop > just South of Wilsonville @ 9:00 - 9:15 am to caravan in together. > It's just past the Exit for the Wilsonville-Hubbard Hwy, Mile 282. > > Would anyone else want to join us? > Gary, Owen? Leigh, Stubbs? Anyone I haven't mentioned? > > Our plan is to be there in time for the Road Run that starts at > 11am, and hoping to be there at 10:30am (unless someone sees a flaw > in our timing). > > For contact purposes: > > My cell phone: 360-931-6744 > Wife's Cell : 360-901-0825 > Both will be on. > > Enrique Scanlon > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Cole" < > To: "Owen" < > Cc: < > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 3:44 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Eventfull weekend in the NW > > >> I hope to see a bunch of the northwest roadsters this Saturday at >> Bill and Karen Neal's BBQ in Shedd, Oregon. The BBQ will start >> after the fun run and last through the evening hours. Owen, is your >> car back on the road?? Bill From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Sat Aug 21 00:07:53 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 23:07:53 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] reusing tapped out holes Message-ID: perhaps not the best description but recently i have had the problem of reinstalling my interior, fixing the bow on the convertible top and the screw holes keep widening and widening such that one has to use bigger and bigger screws. A solution - use an appropriate pop rivet and then drill it out as needed. Works, plus you get extra depth Peter (Eliza) From cookefam314 at gmail.com Sat Aug 21 09:50:56 2010 From: cookefam314 at gmail.com (Dave Cooke) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 10:50:56 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Smoker? In-Reply-To: <3109341C07284BBDA6558968E5DC1D52@gaxp1> References: <20100816134338.VD34U.3506747.root@mp14> <3109341C07284BBDA6558968E5DC1D52@gaxp1> Message-ID: A friend at the office who used to be a mechanic suggested running trans fluid thru the carbs...any thoughts on this? I've had a piece of carbon get underneath valves all the time. 60% of the diagnosed valve jobs were dirt underneath valves. Before I tore down a motor I would run a qt. of trans fluid through the carb. at high speeds. That cleans the motor very well. If it ends up not taking care of it at least the internal motor is cleaner to work with. -Dave Cooke On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:05 AM, Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > Tim, > > Not likely. > > Gary > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" > To: "'Datsun Roadster List'" ; "RWM" > > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 12:43 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoker? > > > Would the fact that Dave is running 5w30 have anything to do with this? >> >> Tim >> >> >> ---- RWM wrote: >> >> ============= >> Looks like rings -- or did someone oil your SuperTrapp? >> >> >> >> Dave Cooke wrote: >> >>> My 68 1600 has recently started smoking more than usual out of the >>> tailpipe. >>> It's always ran with a bit of exhaust smoke, but usually after warm up, >>> it >>> would only smoke a bit when taking off at an intersection after waiting >>> for >>> a light. >>> Now, it's smoking all the time! So, looking for a little help diagnosing >>> this issue... >>> >>> Here's what she looks & sounds like today - >>> http://gallery.me.com/cookefam314/100178/Smoker >>> >>> She runs fine, carbs are adjusted & plugs look tan, no backfire, plenty >>> of >>> acceleration. >>> The smoke does leave a chalky black dry residue, it's not wet or oily, >>> and >>> it wipes off the tailpipe easily. >>> >>> Dave Cooke >>> Lake in the Hills, IL >>> >> ________________________________________ >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/tputland at charter.net >> ________________________________________ >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net >> > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/cookefam314 at gmail.com > -- Dave Cooke Roadster owner since '83 Lake in the Hills, IL Chicagoland Chapter of the Dairyland Datsuns From larrybraddock at ca.rr.com Sat Aug 21 11:05:06 2010 From: larrybraddock at ca.rr.com (Larry Braddock) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 10:05:06 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Trans fluid thru carbs Message-ID: <7C52BC50A1EA43799DDA5B4FF84C337D@owner4d7e0adce> Dave Cooke--- Interesting what you said about running trans. fluid thru carbs. How do you accomplish this? Larry Braddock From pat at hornesystemstx.com Sat Aug 21 12:59:40 2010 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 13:59:40 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] reusing tapped out holes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C70221C.2010402@hornesystemstx.com> I have a kit that installs threaded inserts into holes like that. Work much better than sheet metal screws! Peace, Pat Thusly spake peter harrison, On 8/21/2010 1:07 AM: > perhaps not the best description but recently i have had the problem of > reinstalling my interior, fixing the bow on the convertible top and the screw > holes keep widening and widening such that one has to use bigger and bigger > screws. A solution - use an appropriate pop rivet and then drill it out as > needed. Works, plus you get extra depth > > Peter (Eliza) > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/pat at hornesystemstx.com > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From pat at hornesystemstx.com Sat Aug 21 13:02:28 2010 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 14:02:28 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Trans fluid thru carbs In-Reply-To: <7C52BC50A1EA43799DDA5B4FF84C337D@owner4d7e0adce> References: <7C52BC50A1EA43799DDA5B4FF84C337D@owner4d7e0adce> Message-ID: <4C7022C4.9000603@hornesystemstx.com> * Here is the recommendation from "the Original Chamois Company": * Use chamois leather to dry off surfaces after washing; /Our chamois leather has super absorbency - 500% by weight. Softness that only genuine chamois leather gives. With the ability to lift and hold grime particles within the hollow fiber of the leather, you can effectively eliminate abrasion and save you time./ * After washing your car as recommended by the manufacturer. Use natural chamois leather cloth to dry your car. * Before use rinse chamois cloth in clean water, and wring out. The chamois needs to be damp, yet not wet to for best results. * Remove the majority of water from your car before you dry it by sweeping the chamois over the car, wring out excess water as you proceed. * Chamois leather gets stiff when it is too dry, it will regain its softness with moisture or on wetting. * Genuine natural chamois leather cloth makes an excellent window chamois with a soft lint free surface. * When cleaning chamois leather rinse it in lukewarm water with a mild non-alkali soap, or mild detergent. Squeeze or use chamois wringer to remove excess water. Gently stretch chamois flannel, and hang in area protected from direct sunlight and intense heat. Take care not to over dry. * Chamois is excellent for grooming your pets especially dogs and horses. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Larry Braddock, On 8/21/2010 12:05 PM: > Dave Cooke--- Interesting what you said about running trans. fluid thru > carbs. > How do you accomplish this? > > Larry Braddock > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/pat at hornesystemstx.com > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From umccullough at gmail.com Sat Aug 21 13:34:59 2010 From: umccullough at gmail.com (Urias McCullough) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 12:34:59 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Trans fluid thru carbs In-Reply-To: <7C52BC50A1EA43799DDA5B4FF84C337D@owner4d7e0adce> References: <7C52BC50A1EA43799DDA5B4FF84C337D@owner4d7e0adce> Message-ID: On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Larry Braddock wrote: > Dave Cooke--- Interesting what you said about running trans. fluid thru > carbs. > How do you accomplish this? I've heard it done as well - but usually on top-mounted carburetors (you just pour it directly down the center while the engine is running). With side-draft carbs, i'm not sure how you would accomplish the same task without making a mess :P I've also never done this, so I don't know if it's good/bad, etc. - Urias From mikefaggart at gmail.com Sat Aug 21 14:28:37 2010 From: mikefaggart at gmail.com (Mike Faggart) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 16:28:37 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Engine Bay/Trunk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: same color as the exterior of car mikefaggart seroc 0 cars at the moment On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 5:31 PM, richard bush wrote: > Greetings again from Austin. > Does anyone know what the stock color of the engine bay and trunk? I seem > to remember that they matched the exterior color of the car. > Can anyone confirm this, please? > Also, and I may be repeating myself but, a very warm Texas thanks to all > those who replied to my earlier email concerning the gaskets. I must have > received a dozen emails. Most appreciated. > Have a great weekend. > Rick > > R A Bush, P O Box 500003 > Dubai, UAE; cell: ++971 50 456 4357 > > > > > Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 14:45:12 -0400 > > From: RWM at RWMann.com > > To: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] big bear -n the proof > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/rabush2000 at hotmail.com > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/mikefaggart at gmail.com > -- Mike Faggart From pat at hornesystemstx.com Sat Aug 21 14:32:58 2010 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:32:58 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Trans fluid thru carbs In-Reply-To: <4C7022C4.9000603@hornesystemstx.com> References: <7C52BC50A1EA43799DDA5B4FF84C337D@owner4d7e0adce> <4C7022C4.9000603@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: <4C7037FA.6010106@hornesystemstx.com> Oops, I replied to the wrong message. Sorry. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Pat Horne, On 8/21/2010 2:02 PM: > * Here is the recommendation from "the Original Chamois Company": > * Use chamois leather to dry off surfaces after washing; > /Our chamois leather has super absorbency - 500% by weight. > Softness that only genuine chamois leather gives. > With the ability to lift and hold grime particles within the > hollow fiber of the leather, you can effectively eliminate > abrasion and save you time./ > * After washing your car as recommended by the manufacturer. > Use natural chamois leather cloth to dry your car. > * Before use rinse chamois cloth in clean water, and wring out. > The chamois needs to be damp, yet not wet to for best results. > * Remove the majority of water from your car before you dry it by > sweeping the chamois over the car, wring out excess water as you > proceed. > * Chamois leather gets stiff when it is too dry, it will regain its > softness with moisture or on wetting. > * Genuine natural chamois leather cloth makes an excellent window > chamois with a soft lint free surface. > * When cleaning chamois leather rinse it in lukewarm water with a > mild non-alkali soap, or mild detergent. Squeeze or use chamois > wringer to remove excess water. Gently stretch chamois flannel, > and hang in area protected from direct sunlight and intense heat. > Take care not to over dry. > * Chamois is excellent for grooming your pets especially dogs and > horses. > > > Peace, > Pat -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From bruce.crump at sasktel.net Sat Aug 21 15:19:38 2010 From: bruce.crump at sasktel.net (Bruce & Bonnie Crump) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:19:38 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Trans fluid thru carbs In-Reply-To: References: <7C52BC50A1EA43799DDA5B4FF84C337D@owner4d7e0adce> Message-ID: <4C7042EA.8050606@sasktel.net> I worked with a guy who would put about a pint of trans fluid in a full tank of gas when he was going on a trip so that he could burn most of it off at highway speeds. He swore by it for cleaning the carbon out of the engine. Not sure of the best proportions, but he drove an older 70's Mercury with a big tank, if that helps. Never btried it myself. Bruce Crump 1969 Datsun 2000 SRL 311-12862 On 21/08/2010 1:34 PM, Urias McCullough wrote: > On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Larry Braddock > wrote: >> Dave Cooke--- Interesting what you said about running trans. fluid thru >> carbs. >> How do you accomplish this? > I've heard it done as well - but usually on top-mounted carburetors > (you just pour it directly down the center while the engine is > running). > > With side-draft carbs, i'm not sure how you would accomplish the same > task without making a mess :P > > I've also never done this, so I don't know if it's good/bad, etc. > > - Urias > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/bruce.crump at sasktel.net From kemp_l at hotmail.com Sat Aug 21 17:05:22 2010 From: kemp_l at hotmail.com (Kemp LaMunyon Sr.) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 16:05:22 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Trans fluid thru carbs In-Reply-To: <4C7037FA.6010106@hornesystemstx.com> References: <7C52BC50A1EA43799DDA5B4FF84C337D@owner4d7e0adce>, <4C7022C4.9000603@hornesystemstx.com>, <4C7037FA.6010106@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: I kept waiting for the lines where you streatched the chamois over the ??? Then Jazz the engine to suck the T-Fluid into the ??? Resulting in ??? Thanks Kemp > Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:32:58 -0500 > From: pat at hornesystemstx.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Trans fluid thru carbs > > Oops, I replied to the wrong message. Sorry. > > Peace, > Pat > > Thusly spake Pat Horne, On 8/21/2010 2:02 PM: > > * Here is the recommendation from "the Original Chamois Company": > > * Use chamois leather to dry off surfaces after washing; > > /Our chamois leather has super absorbency - 500% by weight. > > Softness that only genuine chamois leather gives. > > With the ability to lift and hold grime particles within the > > hollow fiber of the leather, you can effectively eliminate > > abrasion and save you time./ > > * After washing your car as recommended by the manufacturer. > > Use natural chamois leather cloth to dry your car. > > * Before use rinse chamois cloth in clean water, and wring out. > > The chamois needs to be damp, yet not wet to for best results. > > * Remove the majority of water from your car before you dry it by > > sweeping the chamois over the car, wring out excess water as you > > proceed. > > * Chamois leather gets stiff when it is too dry, it will regain its > > softness with moisture or on wetting. > > * Genuine natural chamois leather cloth makes an excellent window > > chamois with a soft lint free surface. > > * When cleaning chamois leather rinse it in lukewarm water with a > > mild non-alkali soap, or mild detergent. Squeeze or use chamois > > wringer to remove excess water. Gently stretch chamois flannel, > > and hang in area protected from direct sunlight and intense heat. > > Take care not to over dry. > > * Chamois is excellent for grooming your pets especially dogs and > > horses. > > > > > > Peace, > > Pat > > -- > Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems > (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 > Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 > www.hornesystemstx.com > -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/kemp_l at hotmail.com From Brad at lustigconsultingllc.com Sat Aug 21 17:41:07 2010 From: Brad at lustigconsultingllc.com (Brad Lustig (brad@lustigconsultingllc.com)) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 19:41:07 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Trans fluid thru carbs Message-ID: <3A374EBC-ACD0-4000-9A15-1C547601CE0D@lustigconsultingllc.com> A squirt bottle with water does a great job with carbon. I also like to use Seafoam. Brad Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid ----- Reply message ----- From: "Urias McCullough" Date: Sat, Aug 21, 2010 4:31 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Trans fluid thru carbs To: "Larry Braddock" Cc: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Larry Braddock wrote: > Dave Cooke--- Interesting what you said about running trans. fluid thru > carbs. > How do you accomplish this? I've heard it done as well - but usually on top-mounted carburetors (you just pour it directly down the center while the engine is running). With side-draft carbs, i'm not sure how you would accomplish the same task without making a mess :P I've also never done this, so I don't know if it's good/bad, etc. - Urias ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/brad at lustigconsultingl lc.com From RWM at RWMann.com Sat Aug 21 19:08:32 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 21:08:32 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] --> Re: Trans fluid thru carbs In-Reply-To: References: <7C52BC50A1EA43799DDA5B4FF84C337D@owner4d7e0adce>, <4C7022C4.9000603@hornesystemstx.com>, <4C7037FA.6010106@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: <4C707890.1040505@RWMann.com> Just barely got the ends of the folded chamois out of the Solex throats before they disappeared for good.... Kemp LaMunyon Sr. wrote: > I kept waiting for the lines where you streatched the chamois over the ??? > > Then Jazz the engine to suck the T-Fluid into the ??? > > Resulting in ??? > > > > > Thanks > Kemp > > >> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:32:58 -0500 >> From: pat at hornesystemstx.com >> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Trans fluid thru carbs >> >> Oops, I replied to the wrong message. Sorry. >> >> Peace, >> Pat >> >> Thusly spake Pat Horne, On 8/21/2010 2:02 PM: >> >>> * Here is the recommendation from "the Original Chamois Company": >>> * Use chamois leather to dry off surfaces after washing; >>> /Our chamois leather has super absorbency - 500% by weight. >>> Softness that only genuine chamois leather gives. >>> With the ability to lift and hold grime particles within the >>> hollow fiber of the leather, you can effectively eliminate >>> abrasion and save you time./ >>> * After washing your car as recommended by the manufacturer. >>> Use natural chamois leather cloth to dry your car. >>> * Before use rinse chamois cloth in clean water, and wring out. >>> The chamois needs to be damp, yet not wet to for best results. >>> * Remove the majority of water from your car before you dry it by >>> sweeping the chamois over the car, wring out excess water as you >>> proceed. >>> * Chamois leather gets stiff when it is too dry, it will regain its >>> softness with moisture or on wetting. >>> * Genuine natural chamois leather cloth makes an excellent window >>> chamois with a soft lint free surface. >>> * When cleaning chamois leather rinse it in lukewarm water with a >>> mild non-alkali soap, or mild detergent. Squeeze or use chamois >>> wringer to remove excess water. Gently stretch chamois flannel, >>> and hang in area protected from direct sunlight and intense heat. >>> Take care not to over dry. >>> * Chamois is excellent for grooming your pets especially dogs and >>> horses. >>> >>> >>> Peace, >>> Pat From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sat Aug 21 19:49:22 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 21:49:22 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Trans fluid thru carbs In-Reply-To: <3A374EBC-ACD0-4000-9A15-1C547601CE0D@lustigconsultingllc.com> References: <3A374EBC-ACD0-4000-9A15-1C547601CE0D@lustigconsultingllc.com> Message-ID: <8CD0FB360E951AE-4B0-15CA5@webmail-d068.sysops.aol.com> Why are you supposed to be careful with the squirt bottle with water, and yet the Seafoam is poured into some kind of intake fitting on some cars, or thru the gas tank? I wonder what Seadfoam is? linda -----Original Message----- From: Brad Lustig (brad at lustigconsultingllc.com) To: larrybraddock at ca.rr.com ; umccullough at gmail.com Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Aug 21, 2010 4:41 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Trans fluid thru carbs A squirt bottle with water does a great job with carbon. I also like to use Seafoam. Brad Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid ----- Reply message ----- From: "Urias McCullough" Date: Sat, Aug 21, 2010 4:31 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Trans fluid thru carbs To: "Larry Braddock" Cc: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Larry Braddock wrote: > Dave Cooke--- Interesting what you said about running trans. fluid thru > carbs. > How do you accomplish this? I've heard it done as well - but usually on top-mounted carburetors (you just pour it directly down the center while the engine is running). With side-draft carbs, i'm not sure how you would accomplish the same task without making a mess :P I've also never done this, so I don't know if it's good/bad, etc. - Urias ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/brad at lustigconsultingl lc.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From graemes at internode.on.net Sat Aug 21 21:19:04 2010 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:49:04 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] Trans fluid thru carbs In-Reply-To: <8CD0FB360E951AE-4B0-15CA5@webmail-d068.sysops.aol.com> References: <3A374EBC-ACD0-4000-9A15-1C547601CE0D@lustigconsultingllc.com> <8CD0FB360E951AE-4B0-15CA5@webmail-d068.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <976BD5144ED34B058D132B64010692FB@desktop> "Why are you supposed to be careful with the squirt bottle with water, and yet the Seafoam is poured into some kind of intake fitting on some cars, or thru the gas tank? I wonder what Seadfoam is? Linda" If you overdo any liquid, there is a possibility that the engine will hydro lock. i.e. the combustion chamber is full of a non compressible fluid resulting in a violent ceasing of the up and down movement. A spray pump application is unlikely to cause that but the Seafoam, whatever it is, either vapourises quickly or isn't able to remain a fluid for long in the intake/combustion chamber. http://www.seafoamsales.com/ From pat at hornesystemstx.com Sun Aug 22 08:31:19 2010 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:31:19 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] reusing tapped out holes In-Reply-To: References: , <4C70221C.2010402@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: <4C7134B7.3070502@hornesystemstx.com> McMaster Carr has what they call Rivet Nuts, which are what I use. They also have Jack nuts, which are more like Molly bolts. Molly bolts may work for you also, I've used them, nut you have to hold onto them so they don't turn when you are tightening the screw. I'll have to dig out my kit to see who made it and post that information. Peace, Pat Thusly spake peter harrison, On 8/22/2010 6:24 AM: > So i realized that I had such a tool from Harbor Freight (duh!!!) - > but their inserts are a tad flimsy (plus ya gotta buy stuff ya don't > need) - where are you guys getting your rivets from? > > > > Peter -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From pat at hornesystemstx.com Sun Aug 22 08:47:27 2010 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:47:27 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] reusing tapped out holes In-Reply-To: <9190E3377BA14C2B8C85AB46A46CF55A@gaxp1> References: <4C70221C.2010402@hornesystemstx.com> <9190E3377BA14C2B8C85AB46A46CF55A@gaxp1> Message-ID: <4C71387F.4080603@hornesystemstx.com> My kit was made by DRI Industries in Bloomington, MN, under the Work Shop brand. I looked them up on the net and it appears that they closed their doors in the mid-80's. McMaster Carr has two potions: The Jack Nut, which is like a Molly bolt, with a means to hold onto the insert while you tighten the screw (90186a211). Only available in 6-32 to 1/4-20. Rivet Nut, which, I think, is closer to a pop rivet in that it cinches up with a tool (92387a69) Available in a much wider range of sizes, plus metric and studs. Available in small quantities, tool extra, or in kits. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Gary and Cindy Ault, On 8/21/2010 9:20 PM: > Pat, > > What kit is that? > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Horne" > To: ; "peter harrison" > > Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 1:59 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] reusing tapped out holes > > >> I have a kit that installs threaded inserts into holes like that. >> Work much better than sheet metal screws! >> >> Peace, >> Pat >> >> Thusly spake peter harrison, On 8/21/2010 1:07 AM: >>> perhaps not the best description but recently i have had the problem of >>> reinstalling my interior, fixing the bow on the convertible top and >>> the screw >>> holes keep widening and widening such that one has to use bigger and >>> bigger >>> screws. A solution - use an appropriate pop rivet and then drill it >>> out as >>> needed. Works, plus you get extra depth >>> >>> Peter (Eliza) >>> ________________________________________ >>> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/pat at hornesystemstx.com >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems >> (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 >> Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 >> www.hornesystemstx.com >> -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- >> ________________________________________ >> Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $16.00 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sun Aug 22 12:31:48 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 14:31:48 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Seafoam In-Reply-To: <976BD5144ED34B058D132B64010692FB@desktop> References: <3A374EBC-ACD0-4000-9A15-1C547601CE0D@lustigconsultingllc.com> <8CD0FB360E951AE-4B0-15CA5@webmail-d068.sysops.aol.com> <976BD5144ED34B058D132B64010692FB@desktop> Message-ID: <8CD103F6A7C5CFA-3EDC-2D25A@webmail-m102.sysops.aol.com> The Seafoam website was useful. Also found this link with some info from I believe, a Roadster owner: http://forums.nicoclub.com/how-to-seafoam-your-engine-the-right-way-complete- diy-t126583.html I'm going to try some. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Graeme To: ljordan704 at netscape.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Aug 21, 2010 8:19 pm Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Trans fluid thru carbs "Why are you supposed to be careful with the squirt bottle with water, and yet the Seafoam is poured into some kind of intake fitting on some cars, or thru the gas tank? I wonder what Seadfoam is? Linda" If you overdo any liquid, there is a possibility that the engine will hydro lock. i.e. the combustion chamber is full of a non compressible fluid resulting in a violent ceasing of the up and down movement. A spray pump application is unlikely to cause that but the Seafoam, whatever it is, either vapourises quickly or isn't able to remain a fluid for long in the intake/combustion chamber. http://www.seafoamsales.com/ From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sun Aug 22 12:41:13 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 14:41:13 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] tonneau cover with rollbar Message-ID: <8CD1040BB02C0FA-3EDC-2D3E2@webmail-m102.sysops.aol.com> For those interested in doing this here is the link to the 311 pics for my modified tonneau. Really helps reduce the heat on the car seats(ouch!) http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12573&sid=0d16df45f14258c093e2 d397f63721ca Linda From tom at datsun2000.com Sun Aug 22 15:04:49 2010 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 14:04:49 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Smoker? Message-ID: <9B04B865A7664ECCAC61E4813A69CAEE@Compaq2> Years ago just after high school several of my friends and myself messed with Moris Minor 1000's. We had one with a particularly dirty engine, and one of my friends had heard that tranny fluid would clean it out. I put in a quart at the oil change and ran the car gently for about 100 miles, then drained the engine oil. What came out was mud. Another short oil change with regular oil only and that turned out to be one of the best engines in the group of cars we had. Tranny fluid is a very good gentle cleanser for the inside of your engine. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On 8/21/2010 8:50:56 AM, Dave Cooke (cookefam314 at gmail.com) wrote: > A friend at the office who used to be a mechanic suggested running trans > fluid thru the carbs...any thoughts on this? > > I've had a piece of carbon get underneath valves all the time. 60% of the > diagnosed valve jobs were dirt underneath valves. Before I tore down a motor > I would run a qt. of trans fluid through the carb. at high speeds. That > cleans the motor very well. If it ends up not taking care of it at least the > internal motor is cleaner to work with. > > -Dave Cooke > > > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:05 AM, Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > > > Tim, > > > > Not likely. > > > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" > > To: "'Datsun > Roadster > List'" ; "RWM" > > > > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 12:43 PM > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoker? > > > > > > Would the fact that Dave is running 5w30 have anything to do with this? > >> > >> Tim > >> > >> > >> ---- RWM wrote: > >> > >> ============= > >> Looks like rings -- or did someone oil your SuperTrapp? From Brad at lustigconsultingllc.com Sun Aug 22 16:30:26 2010 From: Brad at lustigconsultingllc.com (Brad Lustig (brad@lustigconsultingllc.com)) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 18:30:26 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Seafoam Message-ID: <9682A7D5-DC61-4595-91FB-4D64F3692123@lustigconsultingllc.com> How I use Seafoam. This is on my single barrel carter carbon Dodge. Not quite sure you could do this on the side drafts. Rev the engine up to a couple thousand rpms and slowly pour in about a quarter of a can while keeping it running. The increase the pour rate for the next quarter of a can until it stalls the car. Let the car sit for about 5-10 minutes then start back up. Sit back and watch the smoke show. Brad Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sun Aug 22 16:31:46 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 18:31:46 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Smoker? In-Reply-To: <9B04B865A7664ECCAC61E4813A69CAEE@Compaq2> References: <9B04B865A7664ECCAC61E4813A69CAEE@Compaq2> Message-ID: <8CD1060F06A14A1-4690-1D778@Webmail-d102.sysops.aol.com> Is that automatic transmission fluid or manual transmission fluid or exactly what kind of tranny fluid? Linda -----Original Message----- From: Tom Hendricksen To: Roadster List ; cookefam314 at gmail.com Sent: Sun, Aug 22, 2010 2:04 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoker? Years ago just after high school several of my friends and myself messed with Moris Minor 1000's. We had one with a particularly dirty engine, and one of my friends had heard that tranny fluid would clean it out. I put in a quart at the oil change and ran the car gently for about 100 miles, then drained the engine oil. What came out was mud. Another short oil change with regular oil only and that turned out to be one of the best engines in the group of cars we had. Tranny fluid is a very good gentle cleanser for the inside of your engine. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On 8/21/2010 8:50:56 AM, Dave Cooke (cookefam314 at gmail.com) wrote: > A friend at the office who used to be a mechanic suggested running trans > fluid thru the carbs...any thoughts on this? > > I've had a piece of carbon get underneath valves all the time. 60% of the > diagnosed valve jobs were dirt underneath valves. Before I tore down a motor > I would run a qt. of trans fluid through the carb. at high speeds. That > cleans the motor very well. If it ends up not taking care of it at least the > internal motor is cleaner to work with. > > -Dave Cooke > > > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:05 AM, Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > > > Tim, > > > > Not likely. > > > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" > > To: "'Datsun > Roadster > List'" ; "RWM" > > > > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 12:43 PM > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoker? > > > > > > Would the fact that Dave is running 5w30 have anything to do with this? > >> > >> Tim > >> > >> > >> ---- RWM wrote: > >> > >> ============= > >> Looks like rings -- or did someone oil your SuperTrapp? ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ljordan704 at netscape.ne t From pat at hornesystemstx.com Sun Aug 22 18:08:30 2010 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:08:30 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] tonneau cover with rollbar In-Reply-To: <8CD1040BB02C0FA-3EDC-2D3E2@webmail-m102.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CD1040BB02C0FA-3EDC-2D3E2@webmail-m102.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4C71BBFE.9020301@hornesystemstx.com> Linda, Looks great! I have an old tonneau cover that has a tear in it for my 67.5. It doesn't have headrests, but I still need to modify it to fit my roll bar. What is the coating on your roll bar? Mine is scuffed up from being hit by the top frame when it is being put up and down. I was thinking of putting padding or at least a wrap on the roll bar, but haven't gotten round to doing it yet. Peace, Pat Thusly spake ljordan704 at netscape.net, On 8/22/2010 1:41 PM: > For those interested in doing this here is the link to the 311 pics for my > modified tonneau. Really helps reduce the heat on the car seats(ouch!) > http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12573&sid=0d16df45f14258c093e2 > d397f63721ca > > Linda > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/pat at hornesystemstx.com > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From fred.davidson at sympatico.ca Sun Aug 22 18:11:48 2010 From: fred.davidson at sympatico.ca (fred.davidson at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:11:48 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] tonneau cover with rollbar In-Reply-To: <8CD1040BB02C0FA-3EDC-2D3E2@webmail-m102.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CD1040BB02C0FA-3EDC-2D3E2@webmail-m102.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Hi Linda: Here a Canadian perspective. I have had the original tonneau cover on my car for the last 25 years. It originally had pockets for the head rests and the proper hole for the Datsun roll bar. I have always had a custom roll bar and this cover worked, "sort of", keeps out heat but not much rain. I recently had a new cover modified after hearing the prices to have a new custom cover made. It cost less than $60 to have the holes for the roll bar made with original like finishing. original. Personally I would buy a cover from a vendor and find a local person to do the mods. My cover is vinyl, by the way. Mine is similar to the pictures on the 311 site with some small differences. I can send you a picture, however that is slow for me as I am on dial up here. Fred > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 14:41:13 -0400 > From: ljordan704 at netscape.net > Subject: [Roadsters] tonneau cover with rollbar > > For those interested in doing this here is the link to the 311 pics for my > modified tonneau. Really helps reduce the heat on the car seats(ouch!) > http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12573&sid=0d16df45f14258c093e2 > d397f63721ca > > Linda > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/fred.davidson at sympatic o.ca From graemes at internode.on.net Sun Aug 22 19:05:42 2010 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:35:42 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] Smoker? In-Reply-To: <8CD1060F06A14A1-4690-1D778@Webmail-d102.sysops.aol.com> References: <9B04B865A7664ECCAC61E4813A69CAEE@Compaq2> <8CD1060F06A14A1-4690-1D778@Webmail-d102.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <5E3E22ABB1394FF0A8BFFFF255604453@desktop> They are referring to AUTO trans. Fluid. By design it is laced with detergents to keep the insides of the Auto extremely clean. The problem is that an Auto. has myriads of tiny passages and holes to make the think work so they must be meticulousy clean. I guess the theory and practice is that these same detergents loosen and remove interior crud on the engine as well. "Is that automatic transmission fluid or manual transmission fluid or exactly what kind of tranny fluid? Linda" From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com Sun Aug 22 20:20:24 2010 From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 22:20:24 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Seafoam In-Reply-To: <8CD103F6A7C5CFA-3EDC-2D25A@webmail-m102.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I have used seafoam on all my (older) engines. Including the lawnmower and the weed-whacker. For side draft carbs, I open the can, put a rubber hose in it, connect the other end of the hose to a intake manifold fitting (after the carbs) and let it suck the seafoam out of the can at speed. Make sure the engine is at temperature. Rev the engine (3000 rpms) and let it suck down the fluid in the can...be prepared for lots of smoke and the plugs will foul. You can add some to the crank case oil and to the fuel to clean carbs but mainly I use it in mass to clean the valves I prefer to use marvel mystery oil in the fuel tank and crank case...not sure why...helps keep the valves and intakes clean too. Joe The Seafoam website was useful. Also found this link with some info from I believe, a Roadster owner: http://forums.nicoclub.com/how-to-seafoam-your-engine-the-right-way-comp lete- diy-t126583.html I'm going to try some. Linda From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sun Aug 22 22:06:30 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:06:30 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Seafoam Message-ID: <8CD108FB323633B-1370-22CFB@webmail-m084.sysops.aol.com> Well I tried the Seafoam today. I dumped it in the tank after I had driven the car around 10 miles first. Then I idled it a bit then drove on the freeway and surface streets. No smoke that I can see. Perhaps it dilutes too much in the tank. Of course I might have to drive more for it to work. I had about 7-8 gal in the tank. Maybe next time I will try the intake method as described, which is to let it "sip" the fluid slowly out of the can. I am kind of worried about the hydrolock issue, but it seems if it takes just "sips" and not a "gulp" then it should be OK? I won't be doing this for a while though. On the can it said use ever few thousand miles to clean things out. It is also supposed to stabilize fuel. Linda From mkiisupra at hotmail.com Mon Aug 23 11:09:04 2010 From: mkiisupra at hotmail.com (Eric Gillis) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:09:04 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Seafoam In-Reply-To: <8CD108FB323633B-1370-22CFB@webmail-m084.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CD108FB323633B-1370-22CFB@webmail-m084.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: In a tank there is too much dilution to see the 'Seafoam smoke' so many chat about. I used it in my Contour SVT, Supra, with good/pass smog results! The trick to getting it in the upper intake area is to use vacuum (not the living room's, rather the car's engine's) and a vicegrip type locking pliers on a tube that allows adjustment and only little quantaties of Seafom in at a time to prevent hydrolock, with this method it still only takes about 2 minutes to drain a full can... Rent it out for mosquito abatement! Enjoy, Eric G > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:06:30 -0400 > From: ljordan704 at netscape.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Seafoam > > > Well I tried the Seafoam today. I dumped it in the tank after I had driven > the car around 10 miles first. Then I idled it a bit then drove on the freeway > and surface streets. No smoke that I can see. Perhaps it dilutes too much in > the tank. Of course I might have to drive more for it to work. I had about 7-8 > gal in the tank. Maybe next time I will try the intake method as described, > which is to let it "sip" the fluid slowly out of the can. I am kind of worried > about the hydrolock issue, but it seems if it takes just "sips" and not a > "gulp" then it should be OK? I won't be doing this for a while though. On the > can it said use ever few thousand miles to clean things out. It is also > supposed to stabilize fuel. > > Linda > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/mkiisupra at hotmail.com From cookefam314 at gmail.com Mon Aug 23 12:44:02 2010 From: cookefam314 at gmail.com (Dave Cooke) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:44:02 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Smoker? In-Reply-To: <5E3E22ABB1394FF0A8BFFFF255604453@desktop> References: <9B04B865A7664ECCAC61E4813A69CAEE@Compaq2> <8CD1060F06A14A1-4690-1D778@Webmail-d102.sysops.aol.com> <5E3E22ABB1394FF0A8BFFFF255604453@desktop> Message-ID: I think I'll try the SeaFoam first & see how that does... Dave Cooke On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Graeme wrote: > They are referring to AUTO trans. Fluid. > By design it is laced with detergents to keep the insides of the Auto > extremely clean. > The problem is that an Auto. has myriads of tiny passages and holes to make > the think work so they must be meticulousy clean. > I guess the theory and practice is that these same detergents loosen and > remove interior crud on the engine as well. > > "Is that automatic transmission fluid or manual transmission fluid or > exactly what kind of tranny fluid? > > Linda" > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/cookefam314 at gmail.com > -- Dave Cooke Roadster owner since '83 Lake in the Hills, IL Chicagoland Chapter of the Dairyland Datsuns From gcallahan at prodigy.net Mon Aug 23 18:17:12 2010 From: gcallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] tonneau cover with rollbar In-Reply-To: <8CD1040BB02C0FA-3EDC-2D3E2@webmail-m102.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <324576.7556.qm@web81004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Looks great, Linda! Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 --- On Sun, 8/22/10, ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: From: ljordan704 at netscape.net Subject: [Roadsters] tonneau cover with rollbar To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 11:41 AM For those interested in doing this here is the link to the 311 pics for my modified tonneau. Really helps reduce the heat on the car seats(ouch!) http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12573&sid=0d16df45f14258c093e2 d397f63721ca Linda ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcallahan at prodigy.net From ljordan704 at netscape.net Mon Aug 23 18:48:10 2010 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:48:10 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] tonneau cover with rollbar In-Reply-To: <324576.7556.qm@web81004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CD113D28B16D2A-D78-48A8@webmail-d040.sysops.aol.com> Hi Gary, I'm really happy with it. it only had one tear and the upholstery guy put a good patch on and sewed it too. I might put another patch parallel to it in the driver's side so it looks like it was intended LOL I am glad I didn't try to do this project because you would notice a wrinkly tonneau. This was a finesse project and I am better at beating on water pumpsLOL I am happy it fit too which was a bonus. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Gary Callahan To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; ljordan704 at netscape.net Sent: Mon, Aug 23, 2010 5:17 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] tonneau cover with rollbar Looks great, Linda! Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 --- On Sun, 8/22/10, ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: From: ljordan704 at netscape.net Subject: [Roadsters] tonneau cover with rollbar To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 11:41 AM For those interested in doing this here is the link to the 311 pics for my modified tonneau. Really helps reduce the heat on the car seats(ouch!) http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12573&sid=0d16df45f14258c093e2 d397f63721ca Linda ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcallahan at prodigy.net From davesmbox at aol.com Mon Aug 23 19:43:05 2010 From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:43:05 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 Message-ID: <8CD1144D489C40B-1008-965A@webmail-d051.sysops.aol.com> I am commuting into Boston again. My Toyota 4x4 only gets 22 to the gal. My 1600 doesn't get much better. I am blowing $100 a week on gas. Just for shits and giggles I have been thinking about a Fiat 850 spyder as a daily driver. And use the Toyota in the snow. They get 50 miles to the gallon and there out there fully restored for under $10,000. Cheaper than a Prius. ANY THOUGHTS????? Dave = From gcallahan at prodigy.net Mon Aug 23 20:31:11 2010 From: gcallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:31:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 In-Reply-To: <8CD1144D489C40B-1008-965A@webmail-d051.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <185817.91644.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fiat_850_Spider_(16.06.2007).jpg It looks like a fun car to drive. As long as you don't get rid of the Datsun Roadster! Gary Callahan :~) Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 --- On Mon, 8/23/10, davesmbox at aol.com wrote: From: davesmbox at aol.com Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 6:43 PM I am commuting into Boston again. My Toyota 4x4 only gets 22 to the gal. My 1600 doesn't get much better. I am blowing $100 a week on gas. Just for shits and giggles I have been thinking about a Fiat 850 spyder as a daily driver. And use the Toyota in the snow. They get 50 miles to the gallon and there out there fully restored for under $10,000. Cheaper than a Prius. ANY THOUGHTS????? Dave = ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcallahan at prodigy.net From wrenchorhammer at live.com Mon Aug 23 20:31:16 2010 From: wrenchorhammer at live.com (Jim In Virginia) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 22:31:16 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 In-Reply-To: <8CD1144D489C40B-1008-965A@webmail-d051.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CD1144D489C40B-1008-965A@webmail-d051.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Dave, They are quite painfully slow for modern traffic, takes quite a while to get up to 60 or 65. Other than that, if you can drive an old roadster as a daily driver, you would be able to survive the even less creature comforts of the Fiat, I think! One last caveat, they are Italian. Unusual and expensive things may break at the wrong time! Best Regards, Jim > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:43:05 -0400 > From: davesmbox at aol.com > Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 > > I am commuting into Boston again. My Toyota 4x4 only gets 22 to the gal. My > 1600 doesn't get much better. I am blowing $100 a week on gas. > Just for shits and giggles I have been thinking about a Fiat 850 spyder as a > daily driver. And use the Toyota in the snow. They get 50 miles to the gallon > and there out there fully restored for under $10,000. Cheaper than a Prius. > > ANY THOUGHTS????? > > Dave > > > = > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/wrenchorhammer at live.co m From aultgc at att.net Mon Aug 23 20:51:47 2010 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:51:47 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 References: <8CD1144D489C40B-1008-965A@webmail-d051.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <5AAA0935654B467CB121DA3D5900C7C7@gaxp1> Dave, Surely you remember what FIAT stands for? I had a fraternity brother who owned one when they were (relatively) new, and his was true to the stereotype. Tore 1st and 2nd out of the trans as he departed the reception for his honeymoon. Drove it with 3rd and 4th for a while.... "Fix It Alla' Time" To the loyal FIAT owners out there whom I have offended: I'm sure you got one of the one or two good ones. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 8:43 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 >I am commuting into Boston again. My Toyota 4x4 only gets 22 to the gal. My > 1600 doesn't get much better. I am blowing $100 a week on gas. > Just for shits and giggles I have been thinking about a Fiat 850 spyder as > a > daily driver. And use the Toyota in the snow. They get 50 miles to the > gallon > and there out there fully restored for under $10,000. Cheaper than a > Prius. > > ANY THOUGHTS????? > > Dave > > > = > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Aug 23 20:57:58 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:57:58 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 In-Reply-To: <8CD1144D489C40B-1008-965A@webmail-d051.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CD1144D489C40B-1008-965A@webmail-d051.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <00ee01cb4338$2953f9f0$7bfbedd0$@net> Umm...it's a Fiat? The 1978 B-210 (American model) with 5-speed transmission was rated by the United States Environmental Protection Agency} at 50 mpg-US (4.7 L/100 km; 60 mpg-imp) highway fuel economy. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of davesmbox at aol.com Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 6:43 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 I am commuting into Boston again. My Toyota 4x4 only gets 22 to the gal. My 1600 doesn't get much better. I am blowing $100 a week on gas. Just for shits and giggles I have been thinking about a Fiat 850 spyder as a daily driver. And use the Toyota in the snow. They get 50 miles to the gallon and there out there fully restored for under $10,000. Cheaper than a Prius. ANY THOUGHTS????? Dave = ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From gsglasgow at comcast.net Mon Aug 23 21:20:30 2010 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:20:30 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 In-Reply-To: <8CD1144D489C40B-1008-965A@webmail-d051.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CD1144D489C40B-1008-965A@webmail-d051.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Be sure to check for rust around the suspension pickup points. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of davesmbox at aol.com Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 6:43 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 I am commuting into Boston again. My Toyota 4x4 only gets 22 to the gal. My 1600 doesn't get much better. I am blowing $100 a week on gas. Just for shits and giggles I have been thinking about a Fiat 850 spyder as a daily driver. And use the Toyota in the snow. They get 50 miles to the gallon and there out there fully restored for under $10,000. Cheaper than a Prius. ANY THOUGHTS????? Dave = ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gsglasgow at comcast.net From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Aug 23 21:43:43 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:43:43 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 In-Reply-To: <5AAA0935654B467CB121DA3D5900C7C7@gaxp1> References: <8CD1144D489C40B-1008-965A@webmail-d051.sysops.aol.com> <5AAA0935654B467CB121DA3D5900C7C7@gaxp1> Message-ID: <00f201cb433e$8efd7640$acf862c0$@net> FIAT=Fix It Again, Tony -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary and Cindy Ault Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 7:52 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; davesmbox at aol.com Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 Dave, Surely you remember what FIAT stands for? I had a fraternity brother who owned one when they were (relatively) new, and his was true to the stereotype. Tore 1st and 2nd out of the trans as he departed the reception for his honeymoon. Drove it with 3rd and 4th for a while.... "Fix It Alla' Time" To the loyal FIAT owners out there whom I have offended: I'm sure you got one of the one or two good ones. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 8:43 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 >I am commuting into Boston again. My Toyota 4x4 only gets 22 to the gal. My > 1600 doesn't get much better. I am blowing $100 a week on gas. > Just for shits and giggles I have been thinking about a Fiat 850 spyder as > a > daily driver. And use the Toyota in the snow. They get 50 miles to the > gallon > and there out there fully restored for under $10,000. Cheaper than a > Prius. > > ANY THOUGHTS????? > > Dave > > > = > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/aultgc at att.net ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From notoptoy at live.com Mon Aug 23 22:09:03 2010 From: notoptoy at live.com (Tom Lorick) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 00:09:03 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] your thoughts on the 850 Spider In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have had two Fiats, a 124 Sport Coupe (Rare, and my first car), and a 128. The engines on these were works of art, DOHC aluminum block, cross-flow heads. They ran like tops, and sounded great. They were slow, but looked and sounded fast. I really liked them, but they rusted, and fell apart around me. I always liked the 850, my fear would be reliability and not of the engine, but all the other bits. And I always heard it's "Fix It Again Tony" in reference to the Italian mechanic required to own one. Never heard the Fix it alla time! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 11:20 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 4, Issue 319 Send Datsun-roadsters mailing list submissions to datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at datsun-roadsters-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Datsun-roadsters digest..." From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Mon Aug 23 22:23:51 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:23:51 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 In-Reply-To: <5AAA0935654B467CB121DA3D5900C7C7@gaxp1> References: <8CD1144D489C40B-1008-965A@webmail-d051.sysops.aol.com>, <5AAA0935654B467CB121DA3D5900C7C7@gaxp1> Message-ID: Fix It Again, Tony From umccullough at gmail.com Mon Aug 23 23:52:01 2010 From: umccullough at gmail.com (Urias McCullough) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 22:52:01 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 In-Reply-To: References: <8CD1144D489C40B-1008-965A@webmail-d051.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Jim In Virginia wrote: > They are quite painfully slow for modern traffic, takes quite a while to get > up to 60 or 65. > Other than that, if you can drive an old roadster as a daily driver, you would > be able to survive the even less creature comforts of the Fiat, I think! I happen to have two of these in my front yard... I got one of them running at one point, and I must concur - slow slow slow... Painfully small car to squeeze into as well. I realized it was not a car I wanted to put more money into, so they have sat dormant since that. BTW, I need to get rid of them very soon, a decent functioning car can be built from both if someone is interested in the Sacramento, CA area, email me off list - Urias From roadster at astound.net Tue Aug 24 00:21:42 2010 From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:21:42 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 In-Reply-To: <00ee01cb4338$2953f9f0$7bfbedd0$@net> References: <8CD1144D489C40B-1008-965A@webmail-d051.sysops.aol.com> <00ee01cb4338$2953f9f0$7bfbedd0$@net> Message-ID: <5444B6CC-305B-47AF-A1F8-E3E13A2C8313@astound.net> My mom had a brand-new B-210 for a year before it was totalled. Cool-looking car (at the time). I haven't seen one in decades. Where are they now? Fred - So.SF On Aug 23, 2010, at 7:57 PM, "Pete Peters" wrote: > Umm...it's a Fiat? > > The 1978 B-210 (American model) with 5-speed transmission was rated by the > United States Environmental Protection Agency} at 50 mpg-US (4.7 L/100 km; > 60 mpg-imp) highway fuel economy. > > Pete From 9laser3 at bright.net Tue Aug 24 04:30:37 2010 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 06:30:37 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 In-Reply-To: References: <8CD1144D489C40B-1008-965A@webmail-d051.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <000d01cb4377$660f7790$322e66b0$@net> Back in the day, the 850s required new valves every year, new rings every other year. So don't spend the money you save on gas! Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim In Virginia Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 10:31 PM To: davesmbox at aol.com; Datsun Roadsters send mail Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 Dave, They are quite painfully slow for modern traffic, takes quite a while to get up to 60 or 65. Other than that, if you can drive an old roadster as a daily driver, you would be able to survive the even less creature comforts of the Fiat, I think! One last caveat, they are Italian. Unusual and expensive things may break at the wrong time! Best Regards, Jim > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:43:05 -0400 > From: davesmbox at aol.com > Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 > > I am commuting into Boston again. My Toyota 4x4 only gets 22 to the gal. My > 1600 doesn't get much better. I am blowing $100 a week on gas. > Just for shits and giggles I have been thinking about a Fiat 850 spyder as a > daily driver. And use the Toyota in the snow. They get 50 miles to the gallon > and there out there fully restored for under $10,000. Cheaper than a Prius. > > ANY THOUGHTS????? > > Dave > > > = > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/wrenchorhammer at live.c o m ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/9laser3 at bright.net From RWM at RWMann.com Tue Aug 24 06:10:07 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:10:07 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 In-Reply-To: <5444B6CC-305B-47AF-A1F8-E3E13A2C8313@astound.net> References: <8CD1144D489C40B-1008-965A@webmail-d051.sysops.aol.com> <00ee01cb4338$2953f9f0$7bfbedd0$@net> <5444B6CC-305B-47AF-A1F8-E3E13A2C8313@astound.net> Message-ID: <4C73B69F.4000809@RWMann.com> Several ;name' Datsun racers campaigned them in SCCA Nationals, Don Devendorf/Electramotive and Jim Fitzgerald among others. Haven't seen one in ages, though. Fred Katz wrote: > My mom had a brand-new B-210 for a year before it was totalled. Cool-looking > car (at the time). I haven't seen one in decades. Where are they now? > > Fred - So.SF > > > On Aug 23, 2010, at 7:57 PM, "Pete Peters" wrote: > > >> Umm...it's a Fiat? >> >> The 1978 B-210 (American model) with 5-speed transmission was rated by the >> United States Environmental Protection Agency} at 50 mpg-US (4.7 L/100 km; >> 60 mpg-imp) highway fuel economy. >> >> Pete From chalsted at comcast.net Tue Aug 24 07:18:45 2010 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 13:18:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 In-Reply-To: <5444B6CC-305B-47AF-A1F8-E3E13A2C8313@astound.net> Message-ID: <1098463049.276767.1282655925735.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >My mom had a brand-new B-210 for a year before it was totalled. Cool-looking car (at the time). I haven't seen one in decades. Where are they now? don't know where the rest of them are but there's one I think out on the west coast that's converted totally electric and hits 117mph in the quarter mile- saw a YouTube video of him creaming a Nissan GTR at the drag strip :-) both hit top speed of 117 but the 210 was much faster off the line Craig From ronnie.day at gmail.com Tue Aug 24 09:06:50 2010 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:06:50 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 In-Reply-To: <4C73B69F.4000809@RWMann.com> References: <8CD1144D489C40B-1008-965A@webmail-d051.sysops.aol.com> <00ee01cb4338$2953f9f0$7bfbedd0$@net> <5444B6CC-305B-47AF-A1F8-E3E13A2C8313@astound.net> <4C73B69F.4000809@RWMann.com> Message-ID: The 210 hatchback Bob Sharp set up for C Sedan was very nice. Lowered just slightly with a signature BSR paint scheme. Les has one, maybe it's a 1200, and races it in vintage. Datsun Comp published a chassis manual for that platform along with a engine setup manual for the A-series push-rod motor. I think I have copies buried in storage somewhere. On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 7:10 AM, RWM wrote: > Several ;name' Datsun racers campaigned them in SCCA Nationals, Don > Devendorf/Electramotive and Jim Fitzgerald among others. B Haven't seen one > in ages, though. > > > Fred Katz wrote: >> >> My mom had a brand-new B-210 for a year before it was totalled. >> Cool-looking >> car (at the time). I haven't seen one in decades. Where are they now? From RWM at RWMann.com Tue Aug 24 09:12:24 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:12:24 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 In-Reply-To: References: <8CD1144D489C40B-1008-965A@webmail-d051.sysops.aol.com> <00ee01cb4338$2953f9f0$7bfbedd0$@net> <5444B6CC-305B-47AF-A1F8-E3E13A2C8313@astound.net> <4C73B69F.4000809@RWMann.com> Message-ID: <4C73E158.8090803@RWMann.com> Right, and I think I recall Don Zahrouiko having later acquired and campaigned the ex-BSR B210, much as he earlier ran an ex-BSR 2000 Roadster. Ronnie Day wrote: > The 210 hatchback Bob Sharp set up for C Sedan was very nice. Lowered > just slightly with a signature BSR paint scheme. Les has one, maybe > it's a 1200, and races it in vintage. Datsun Comp published a chassis > manual for that platform along with a engine setup manual for the > A-series push-rod motor. I think I have copies buried in storage > somewhere. > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 7:10 AM, RWM wrote: > >> Several ;name' Datsun racers campaigned them in SCCA Nationals, Don >> Devendorf/Electramotive and Jim Fitzgerald among others. Haven't seen one >> in ages, though. >> >> >> Fred Katz wrote: >> >>> My mom had a brand-new B-210 for a year before it was totalled. >>> Cool-looking >>> car (at the time). I haven't seen one in decades. Where are they now? From gcallahan at prodigy.net Tue Aug 24 10:04:04 2010 From: gcallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 09:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] "Mailing List Removal" Message-ID: <884222.18445.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> "Mailing list removal confirmation notice for mailing list Datsun-roadsters We have received a request for the removal of your email address..." This is the second time I have received an e-mail, with the above text, from the list, to attempt to confirm my list removal request. What is going on here? I DO NOT want to be removed from the list, I DO enjoy reading all the e-mails from other Datsun Roadster owners, even the nasty ones. Please fix this problem! Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 From dogermac at aol.com Tue Aug 24 10:13:35 2010 From: dogermac at aol.com (dogermac at aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:13:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] first post Message-ID: <8CD11BE6FDF578F-105C-1CD0@webmail-d026.sysops.aol.com> Hi there. my name is Jim and this '70 is my second 311, bought in the same town (Lawton, OK) as my first in '67. "Barterdude" did the work and I'm just in the process of up dating some of the items still needing attention. So far I've installed the roll bar, new top, new windshield glass, console, and rebuilt the water pump etc. etc. Now I need to renew the ball joints (upper and lower) but can't seem to find a source for an idler box, (new or used) so that I can have the car off the road for the minimum amount of time. Rare Parts Inc. in Stockton, CA will re manufacture the used uppers and sell me new lowers at a reasonable price, but I'm looking for an idler box and don't really want to send in the one on the car at present. I live in Sarasota, FL and there are only a very few 311's in the state that I know of. There's a real beauty fully restored up in Orlando, and I saw a very low mileage "survivor" in Hollywood FL. but mine is a real attention grabber here on the "Mangrove Coast". So, SRL311-12536 always attracts a crowd at local "Cruise Nights". Should any of you know of a source for an idler box you can email me at dogermac at aol.com. Thanks Jim From gcallahan at prodigy.net Tue Aug 24 10:18:20 2010 From: gcallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 09:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 In-Reply-To: <4C73B69F.4000809@RWMann.com> Message-ID: <870838.44806.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://tinyurl.com/1974-B210 Follow the above URL for a nice looking B-210 for sale! Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 --- On Tue, 8/24/10, RWM wrote: From: RWM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 5:10 AM Several ;name' Datsun racers campaigned them in SCCA Nationals, Don Devendorf/Electramotive and Jim Fitzgerald among others. Haven't seen one in ages, though. Fred Katz wrote: > My mom had a brand-new B-210 for a year before it was totalled. Cool-looking > car (at the time). I haven't seen one in decades. Where are they now? > > Fred - So.SF > > > On Aug 23, 2010, at 7:57 PM, "Pete Peters" wrote: > > >> Umm...it's a Fiat? >> >> The 1978 B-210 (American model) with 5-speed transmission was rated by the >> United States Environmental Protection Agency} at 50 mpg-US (4.7 L/100 km; >> 60 mpg-imp) highway fuel economy. >> >> Pete ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcallahan at prodigy.net From banshee16 at starband.net Tue Aug 24 11:59:31 2010 From: banshee16 at starband.net (Marcus Pryor) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:59:31 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] first post In-Reply-To: <8CD11BE6FDF578F-105C-1CD0@webmail-d026.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CD11BE6FDF578F-105C-1CD0@webmail-d026.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I, too, bought my first 311 in Lawton, Oklahoma in 1967. I was in artillery OCS at the time. On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:13 AM, wrote: > Hi there. my name is Jim and this '70 is my second 311, bought in the same > town (Lawton, OK) as my first in '67. "Barterdude" did the work and I'm > just > in the process of up dating some of the items still needing attention. So > far > I've installed the roll bar, new top, new windshield glass, console, and > rebuilt the water pump etc. etc. Now I need to renew the ball joints > (upper > and lower) but can't seem to find a source for an idler box, (new or used) > so > that I can have the car off the road for the minimum amount of time. Rare > Parts Inc. in Stockton, CA will re manufacture the used uppers and sell me > new > lowers at a reasonable price, but I'm looking for an idler box and don't > really want to send in the one on the car at present. > > > I live in Sarasota, FL and there are only a very few 311's in the state > that I > know of. There's a real beauty fully restored up in Orlando, and I saw a > very > low mileage "survivor" in Hollywood FL. but mine is a real attention > grabber > here on the "Mangrove Coast". So, SRL311-12536 always attracts a crowd at > local "Cruise Nights". > Should any of you know of a source for an idler box you can email me at > dogermac at aol.com. > Thanks > Jim > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/banshee16 at starband.net From alvingogi at gmail.com Tue Aug 24 20:07:10 2010 From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:07:10 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Nissan Meet in Sunnyvale, CA 8/25! Message-ID: Details at http://www.zcarblog.com/ From aaron at polivka.org Wed Aug 25 10:03:24 2010 From: aaron at polivka.org (Aaron Polivka) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:03:24 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 Message-ID: <79A4780559CE6440B4A7FA4069004B337251@penguin.polivka.local> I've driven and rode in a Fiat 850 spider. It actually handles quite well (if all the suspension bits are working properly, which is a big if) but has the all the "performance" of a 60s beetle. It's pretty, though, and has a certain amount of charm, but a roadster is a much better driver. As I recall, 1st gear was a "grinder" (no synchro). Even a 1600 puts out about twice as much HP. I'd also hate to be in an accident with at 60s rear engined Italian sports car. Most of these were rusty within a couple of years of new, and that cheap, thin metal in front didn't give me a feeling of safety. Other than looks, and MG Midget is a much better car, and a Midget is one somewhere between "junk" and "crap" on my scale of desirable cars. :) The 124 coupe was way cool. Probably twice as fast as an 850 and a great looking design that has aged very well IMO. But tin worm and horrible reliability has got 99.9% of them sentenced to the crusher by now. From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com Wed Aug 25 10:57:49 2010 From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:57:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 In-Reply-To: <79A4780559CE6440B4A7FA4069004B337251@penguin.polivka.local> References: <79A4780559CE6440B4A7FA4069004B337251@penguin.polivka.local> Message-ID: <657414.72863.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hi everyone the other night I was looking longingly at race cars for sale on eBay, and saw just such an 850 Spyder race car for sale. i went back today and it was gone, or I would have posted a link. the cool thing is that there were many racing photos in the ad, and in one, the little car was being trailed by a roadster and a 240Z. anyone else see it? anyone smart enough (i sure wasn't) to download the pic? s 675MIZU ________________________________ From: Aaron Polivka To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 9:03:24 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 I've driven and rode in a Fiat 850 spider. It actually handles quite well (if all the suspension bits are working properly, which is a big if) but has the all the "performance" of a 60s beetle. It's pretty, though, and has a certain amount of charm, but a roadster is a much better driver. As I recall, 1st gear was a "grinder" (no synchro). Even a 1600 puts out about twice as much HP. I'd also hate to be in an accident with at 60s rear engined Italian sports car. Most of these were rusty within a couple of years of new, and that cheap, thin metal in front didn't give me a feeling of safety. Other than looks, and MG Midget is a much better car, and a Midget is one somewhere between "junk" and "crap" on my scale of desirable cars. :) The 124 coupe was way cool. Probably twice as fast as an 850 and a great looking design that has aged very well IMO. But tin worm and horrible reliability has got 99.9% of them sentenced to the crusher by now. ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com From Brad at lustigconsultingllc.com Wed Aug 25 11:31:56 2010 From: Brad at lustigconsultingllc.com (Brad Lustig (brad@lustigconsultingllc.com)) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:31:56 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 Message-ID: Trailed or lapped? Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid ----- Reply message ----- From: "steven boortz" Date: Wed, Aug 25, 2010 1:29 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 To: "Aaron Polivka" , "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" hi everyone the other night I was looking longingly at race cars for sale on eBay, and saw just such an 850 Spyder race car for sale. i went back today and it was gone, or I would have posted a link. the cool thing is that there were many racing photos in the ad, and in one, the little car was being trailed by a roadster and a 240Z. anyone else see it? anyone smart enough (i sure wasn't) to download the pic? s 675MIZU ________________________________ From: Aaron Polivka To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 9:03:24 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 I've driven and rode in a Fiat 850 spider. It actually handles quite well (if all the suspension bits are working properly, which is a big if) but has the all the "performance" of a 60s beetle. It's pretty, though, and has a certain amount of charm, but a roadster is a much better driver. As I recall, 1st gear was a "grinder" (no synchro). Even a 1600 puts out about twice as much HP. I'd also hate to be in an accident with at 60s rear engined Italian sports car. Most of these were rusty within a couple of years of new, and that cheap, thin metal in front didn't give me a feeling of safety. Other than looks, and MG Midget is a much better car, and a Midget is one somewhere between "junk" and "crap" on my scale of desirable cars. :) The 124 coupe was way cool. Probably twice as fast as an 850 and a great looking design that has aged very well IMO. But tin worm and horrible reliability has got 99.9% of them sentenced to the crusher by now. ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/vociferouschicanery at ya hoo.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/brad at lustigconsultingl lc.com From msedlack at neo.rr.com Wed Aug 25 11:34:51 2010 From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:34:51 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 References: <79A4780559CE6440B4A7FA4069004B337251@penguin.polivka.local> <657414.72863.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6F25C34ABBEB4338A80355BC181A4500@p53ghzduo> I believe that should have read "the little car was about to be lapped by a roadster and a 240z........" ----- Original Message ----- From: "steven boortz" To: "Aaron Polivka" ; Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 " the cool thing is that there were many racing > photos in the ad, and in one, the little car was being trailed by a > roadster and > a 240Z. " From RWM at RWMann.com Wed Aug 25 11:51:31 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:51:31 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 In-Reply-To: <657414.72863.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <79A4780559CE6440B4A7FA4069004B337251@penguin.polivka.local> <657414.72863.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C755823.7070203@RWMann.com> The CP (Solex, or if SU, DP) 2000 Roadster and 240Z were probably getting ready to lap the HP 850... steven boortz wrote: > hi everyone > the other night I was looking longingly at race cars for sale on eBay, and saw > just such an 850 Spyder race car for sale. i went back today and it was gone, > or I would have posted a link. the cool thing is that there were many racing > photos in the ad, and in one, the little car was being trailed by a roadster and > a 240Z. anyone else see it? anyone smart enough (i sure wasn't) to download > the pic? > s > 675MIZU > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Aaron Polivka > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 9:03:24 AM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 > > I've driven and rode in a Fiat 850 spider. It actually handles quite > well (if all the suspension bits are working properly, which is a big > if) but has the all the "performance" of a 60s beetle. It's pretty, > though, and has a certain amount of charm, but a roadster is a much > better driver. As I recall, 1st gear was a "grinder" (no synchro). Even > a 1600 puts out about twice as much HP. > > I'd also hate to be in an accident with at 60s rear engined Italian > sports car. Most of these were rusty within a couple of years of new, > and that cheap, thin metal in front didn't give me a feeling of safety. > Other than looks, and MG Midget is a much better car, and a Midget is > one somewhere between "junk" and "crap" on my scale of desirable cars. > :) > > The 124 coupe was way cool. Probably twice as fast as an 850 and a > great looking design that has aged very well IMO. But tin worm and > horrible reliability has got 99.9% of them sentenced to the crusher by > now. From dooger at wildblue.net Wed Aug 25 11:54:24 2010 From: dooger at wildblue.net (Wes Jones) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:54:24 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 In-Reply-To: <657414.72863.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <79A4780559CE6440B4A7FA4069004B337251@penguin.polivka.local> <657414.72863.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Here is a link to the closed auction. The racing pics were still on there when I looked. http://tinyurl.com/33p75n4 Best, wes 1969 1600 On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:57:49 -0400, steven boortz wrote: > hi everyone > the other night I was looking longingly at race cars for sale on eBay, > and saw > just such an 850 Spyder race car for sale. i went back today and it was > gone, > or I would have posted a link. the cool thing is that there were many > racing > photos in the ad, and in one, the little car was being trailed by a > roadster and > a 240Z. anyone else see it? anyone smart enough (i sure wasn't) to > download > the pic? > s > 675MIZU > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Aaron Polivka > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 9:03:24 AM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 > > I've driven and rode in a Fiat 850 spider. It actually handles quite > well (if all the suspension bits are working properly, which is a big > if) but has the all the "performance" of a 60s beetle. It's pretty, > though, and has a certain amount of charm, but a roadster is a much > better driver. As I recall, 1st gear was a "grinder" (no synchro). Even > a 1600 puts out about twice as much HP. > > I'd also hate to be in an accident with at 60s rear engined Italian > sports car. Most of these were rusty within a couple of years of new, > and that cheap, thin metal in front didn't give me a feeling of safety. > Other than looks, and MG Midget is a much better car, and a Midget is > one somewhere between "junk" and "crap" on my scale of desirable cars. > :) > > The 124 coupe was way cool. Probably twice as fast as an 850 and a > great looking design that has aged very well IMO. But tin worm and > horrible reliability has got 99.9% of them sentenced to the crusher by > now. > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/dooger at wildblue.net -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From lmflaming at comcast.net Wed Aug 25 11:55:17 2010 From: lmflaming at comcast.net (lmflaming at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 17:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 roadster cluctch adj. Message-ID: <458964701.346906.1282758917479.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Hello Everyone I have a question about my clutch in my 66. WhenB I shift it, it grinds going into all the gears most of the time especially first gear. I have bleed the clutch slave cylinder and it looks like it may be moving around 1/2 to 3/4 inch but my clutch pedal now goes to the floor andB I have a full reservoir. Larry lmflaming 66 From patrickcomitale at yahoo.com Wed Aug 25 12:21:21 2010 From: patrickcomitale at yahoo.com (P C) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:21:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 1966 SPL311 Parting Out Message-ID: <751330.31909.qm@web114106.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Parts for sale Alternator Distributor Radiator Radiator support Radiator hoses top and bottom Overflow tank Airbox with filter Intake with carbs Fuel pump Filler neck with breather hose Gas tank Gas tank straps J hooks Sending unit cover Center console Glove box Glove box door Glove box door lock Fuel gauge Amp gauge Water temp gauge Oil pressure gauge Tachometer Dash Switches-- Lights, fog, wiper, heat Choke cable Ignition with key Dimmer Driver Seat Pass. Seat Steering wheel 14" steel wheels Wiper arms Wiper motor Water pump Thermostat Thermostat housing Fan Fan pulley Crank pulley Hardtop Hood Doors Door Windows Quarter windows Quarter window holder driver Quarter window pivot driver Quarter window frame driver Window regulators Window channel rear Window holder Roll up handle Door handles outside Door handles inside Door pull handles Door locks Door latch passenger Bodyside door striker latches Door hinges Front grille Vent grille Trunk Trunk garnish Fenders Trunk hold bars Seat belts Headlights Headlight buckets Headlight bezels Front directionals and bezels Tail light housings and bezels Antenna Door sill plates Rocker sill plates Inside rocker trim 6 pieces R16 Crankshaft Camshaft Lifters Rods Caps Bearings 4speed transmission Driveshaft Header In.ex. Gasket Starter motor Clutch Photos can be viewed here picasaweb.google.com/101278287028344322083 Email any questions to ClassicAutoRecycling at yahoo.com Thanks From RWM at RWMann.com Wed Aug 25 12:26:37 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:26:37 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 In-Reply-To: <4C755823.7070203@RWMann.com> References: <79A4780559CE6440B4A7FA4069004B337251@penguin.polivka.local> <657414.72863.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C755823.7070203@RWMann.com> Message-ID: <4C75605D.4050007@RWMann.com> From mkall at q-marketing.com Wed Aug 25 12:29:39 2010 From: mkall at q-marketing.com (Matt Kall) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:29:39 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] resto mod look on the cheap Message-ID: <00b601cb4483$7b0fd1f0$712f75d0$@com> Lately I have been toying with the idea of going with a "pro-touring theme" for the roadster(69 SRL) I don't think I have the budget for a full blown Spriso car.. but I would like to lower it to improve the handling and add 15" wheels anyone know what the cost to build a car like Mike Braatens? Matt From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Wed Aug 25 12:38:19 2010 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:38:19 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] reply: clutch adjust Message-ID: The grinding in ALL gears is symptomatic of the clutch not disengaging gears completely. If pedal movement vs slave cylinder rod movement is a 1:1 ratio (meaning no delay when pedal is moved before action down below), then the seals in one of them are bad. Some of the more hydraulic experienced (translated as: ex-Navy) may correct me, but I have found that if the seals in the master are shot, the fluid is being lost inwards on the inside of the firewall. (I noticed having slippery bits on the toes of my shoes) If the master is slipping, when you depress the pedal several times, you will probably get different levels of slave rod movement. (more, less, less , more) If the salve is bad, you will probably just not get enough stroke, and the spring tension of the return spring should shove the arm gradually back into resting place (fluid pressure being lost past the seals). From RWM at RWMann.com Wed Aug 25 13:06:54 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:06:54 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 In-Reply-To: <4C755823.7070203@RWMann.com> References: <79A4780559CE6440B4A7FA4069004B337251@penguin.polivka.local> <657414.72863.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C755823.7070203@RWMann.com> Message-ID: <4C7569CE.1060000@RWMann.com> Well, I now see from the referenced photos it's a 1500 or 1600 versus an Abarth, but still.... RWM wrote: > The CP (Solex, or if SU, DP) 2000 Roadster and 240Z were probably > getting ready to lap the HP 850... > > > > steven boortz wrote: >> hi everyone >> the other night I was looking longingly at race cars for sale on >> eBay, and saw just such an 850 Spyder race car for sale. i went back >> today and it was gone, or I would have posted a link. the cool thing >> is that there were many racing photos in the ad, and in one, the >> little car was being trailed by a roadster and a 240Z. anyone else >> see it? anyone smart enough (i sure wasn't) to download the pic? >> s >> 675MIZU >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Aaron Polivka >> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 9:03:24 AM >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 >> >> I've driven and rode in a Fiat 850 spider. It actually handles quite >> well (if all the suspension bits are working properly, which is a big >> if) but has the all the "performance" of a 60s beetle. It's pretty, >> though, and has a certain amount of charm, but a roadster is a much >> better driver. As I recall, 1st gear was a "grinder" (no synchro). Even >> a 1600 puts out about twice as much HP. >> >> I'd also hate to be in an accident with at 60s rear engined Italian >> sports car. Most of these were rusty within a couple of years of new, >> and that cheap, thin metal in front didn't give me a feeling of safety. >> Other than looks, and MG Midget is a much better car, and a Midget is >> one somewhere between "junk" and "crap" on my scale of desirable cars. >> :) >> >> The 124 coupe was way cool. Probably twice as fast as an 850 and a >> great looking design that has aged very well IMO. But tin worm and >> horrible reliability has got 99.9% of them sentenced to the crusher by >> now. From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Aug 25 13:32:54 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:32:54 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] resto mod look on the cheap In-Reply-To: <00b601cb4483$7b0fd1f0$712f75d0$@com> References: <00b601cb4483$7b0fd1f0$712f75d0$@com> Message-ID: <005a01cb448c$5116f3c0$f344db40$@net> I believe Spriso built Braaten's roadster. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matt Kall Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:30 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] resto mod look on the cheap Lately I have been toying with the idea of going with a "pro-touring theme" for the roadster(69 SRL) I don't think I have the budget for a full blown Spriso car.. but I would like to lower it to improve the handling and add 15" wheels anyone know what the cost to build a car like Mike Braatens? Matt ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Wed Aug 25 14:21:15 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:21:15 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 In-Reply-To: <657414.72863.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <79A4780559CE6440B4A7FA4069004B337251@penguin.polivka.local>, <657414.72863.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: try this ebay link - 1500 roadster in background http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-70-Fiat-850-Spyder-Abarth-Race-car -Faza-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQitemZ290465158151QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks#ht_40161wt_ 1165 From michaelspreadbury at comcast.net Wed Aug 25 15:01:24 2010 From: michaelspreadbury at comcast.net (Michael Spreadbury) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 21:01:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] resto mod look on the cheap In-Reply-To: <005a01cb448c$5116f3c0$f344db40$@net> Message-ID: <77602285.448409.1282770084663.JavaMail.root@sz0106a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> We built parts of Mike's car... but most of it was built in his shop. Mike lives right around the corner from me, so I was over there during most of the build helping in one capacity or another... he and I have been close friends for over 20-years, so when it came time to build his car, it got the full treatment! The Resto-Mod look on Mike's car, or James' 67, or Eric's white 69, or any number of the other ones we have built does not come cheap. It is all about paint, wheels/tires, and stance (and a SR20 under the hood of course!) Wheel choice is critical to making it look right, and the off-the-shelf Panasports are not the answer. Budget? That is a very difficult one to answer, budget anywhere from $10-100,000 It all comes down to what you are capable of doing yourself, and how high your standards are. If you have to pay someone to do it, then the budget goes out the window... The investments on these cars both financially and time-wise are significant... The trick is to find the balance of what works for you, gets you the look or performance that you are striving for, and still leaves you enough time and money so you can get out and enjoy the ride. Your mileage may vary... Michael Spreadbury spriso motorsports ----- Original Message ----- From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 19:32:54 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] resto mod look on the cheap I believe Spriso built Braaten's roadster. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matt Kall Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:30 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] resto mod look on the cheap Lately I have been toying with the idea of going with a "pro-touring theme" for the roadster(69 SRL) I don't think I have the budget for a full blown Spriso car.. but I would like to lower it to improve the handling and add 15" wheels anyone know what the cost to build a car like Mike Braatens? Matt ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/michaelspreadbury at comcast.net From dalebrudi at att.net Thu Aug 26 14:56:13 2010 From: dalebrudi at att.net (DALE BRUDI) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Message-ID: <593264.57655.qm@web80703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I would like to sell my 1969, 2000 roadster. thanks, Dale From john_m_toda at yahoo.com Thu Aug 26 15:28:13 2010 From: john_m_toda at yahoo.com (john_m_toda at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 14:28:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <593264.57655.qm@web80703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <593264.57655.qm@web80703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <610633.22039.qm@web83503.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Dale, Can you forward me specifics (accidents, rust, rebuilds, etc) and any pics? Where are you located? I'm in Sacramento. What's your asking price? Thanks, John ________________________________ From: DALE BRUDI To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 1:56:13 PM Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) I would like to sell my 1969, 2000 roadster. thanks, Dale ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/john_m_toda at yahoo.com From Ken.Smart at csiro.au Thu Aug 26 18:07:35 2010 From: Ken.Smart at csiro.au (Ken.Smart at csiro.au) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:07:35 +1000 Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 In-Reply-To: <4C7569CE.1060000@RWMann.com> References: <79A4780559CE6440B4A7FA4069004B337251@penguin.polivka.local> <657414.72863.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C755823.7070203@RWMann.com> <4C7569CE.1060000@RWMann.com> Message-ID: <06F930F87D29AB48A06F30F1F21E65A16623D4EE@EXNSW-MBX01.nexus.csiro.au> Also from the race results posted it looks like the 1500 posted a faster lap time but the 1600 and 240 were slower. Of course there is no indication if this is a one off or not. Ken 67.5 SR20DE Syd Oz RWM wrote: Well, I now see from the referenced photos it's a 1500 or 1600 versus an Abarth, but still.... RWM wrote: > The CP (Solex, or if SU, DP) 2000 Roadster and 240Z were probably > getting ready to lap the HP 850... > > > > steven boortz wrote: >> hi everyone >> the other night I was looking longingly at race cars for sale on >> eBay, and saw just such an 850 Spyder race car for sale. i went back >> today and it was gone, or I would have posted a link. the cool thing >> is that there were many racing photos in the ad, and in one, the >> little car was being trailed by a roadster and a 240Z. anyone else >> see it? anyone smart enough (i sure wasn't) to download the pic? >> s >> 675MIZU >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Aaron Polivka >> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 9:03:24 AM >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 >> >> I've driven and rode in a Fiat 850 spider. It actually handles quite >> well (if all the suspension bits are working properly, which is a big >> if) but has the all the "performance" of a 60s beetle. It's pretty, >> though, and has a certain amount of charm, but a roadster is a much >> better driver. As I recall, 1st gear was a "grinder" (no synchro). Even >> a 1600 puts out about twice as much HP. >> >> I'd also hate to be in an accident with at 60s rear engined Italian >> sports car. Most of these were rusty within a couple of years of new, >> and that cheap, thin metal in front didn't give me a feeling of safety. >> Other than looks, and MG Midget is a much better car, and a Midget is >> one somewhere between "junk" and "crap" on my scale of desirable cars. >> :) >> >> The 124 coupe was way cool. Probably twice as fast as an 850 and a >> great looking design that has aged very well IMO. But tin worm and >> horrible reliability has got 99.9% of them sentenced to the crusher by >> now. From umccullough at gmail.com Thu Aug 26 18:26:12 2010 From: umccullough at gmail.com (Urias McCullough) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:26:12 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 In-Reply-To: <06F930F87D29AB48A06F30F1F21E65A16623D4EE@EXNSW-MBX01.nexus.csiro.au> References: <79A4780559CE6440B4A7FA4069004B337251@penguin.polivka.local> <657414.72863.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C755823.7070203@RWMann.com> <4C7569CE.1060000@RWMann.com> <06F930F87D29AB48A06F30F1F21E65A16623D4EE@EXNSW-MBX01.nexus.csiro.au> Message-ID: On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 5:07 PM, wrote: > Also from the race results posted it looks like the 1500 posted a faster lap > time but the 1600 and 240 were slower. Of course there is no indication if > this is a one off or not. Could possibly be due to driver (in)abilities ;) From lmflaming at comcast.net Fri Aug 27 09:32:14 2010 From: lmflaming at comcast.net (lmflaming at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:32:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 roadster Message-ID: <2998672.446425.1282923134923.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Is everyone keeping an eye on the roadster on ebay? Larry From gcallahan at prodigy.net Fri Aug 27 09:54:35 2010 From: gcallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 roadster In-Reply-To: <2998672.446425.1282923134923.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <105163.98093.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://tinyurl.com/The-Roadster "The" Roadster? Aren't there around eight, or so, including mine? Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 --- On Fri, 8/27/10, lmflaming at comcast.net wrote: From: lmflaming at comcast.net Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 roadster To: "Roadster List" Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 8:32 AM Is everyone keeping an eye on the roadster on ebay? Larry ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcallahan at prodigy.net From markmussari at gmail.com Fri Aug 27 10:03:38 2010 From: markmussari at gmail.com (Mark Mussari) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:03:38 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 roadster In-Reply-To: <2998672.446425.1282923134923.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <2998672.446425.1282923134923.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: I am. Auction Link I'm also wondering what his reserve is set at... and thinking its probably not going to sell. I've found most people have unrealistic reserves set on their first go around on ebay. Mark On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:32 AM, wrote: > Is everyone keeping an eye on the roadster on ebay? > > Larry > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/markmussari at gmail.com From RWM at RWMann.com Fri Aug 27 10:14:25 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:14:25 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 roadster In-Reply-To: <105163.98093.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <105163.98093.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C77E461.1090407@RWMann.com> Who or what beat up the VIN tag? Freak Oregon hail storm? Gary Callahan wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/The-Roadster > > > "The" Roadster? Aren't there around eight, or so, including mine? > > > Gary Callahan > Beaverton, Oregon > > 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster > SPL311-18665 > > --- On Fri, 8/27/10, lmflaming at comcast.net wrote: > > > From: lmflaming at comcast.net > Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 roadster > To: "Roadster List" > Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 8:32 AM > > > Is everyone keeping an eye on the roadster on ebay? > > Larry From lmflaming at comcast.net Fri Aug 27 11:02:41 2010 From: lmflaming at comcast.net (lmflaming at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:02:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 roadster In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1146227041.452083.1282928561345.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I asked him and he would not tell me his reserve or what he would sell it for at this time. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Mussari" Cc: "Roadster List" Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 10:03:38 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1960 roadster I am. Auction Link I'm also wondering what his reserve is set at... and thinking its probably not going to sell. B I've found most people have unrealistic reserves set on their first go around on ebay. Mark On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:32 AM, wrote: > Is everyone keeping an eye on the roadster on ebay? > > Larry > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation B $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/markmussari at gmail.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation B $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/lmflaming at comcast.net From banshee16 at starband.net Fri Aug 27 11:26:19 2010 From: banshee16 at starband.net (Marcus Pryor) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:26:19 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 roadster In-Reply-To: <1146227041.452083.1282928561345.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1146227041.452083.1282928561345.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: That's a really dumb way to sell on Ebay. What you should do is set the minimum price you want as the starting bid. That way everyone knows your bottom line. A secret reserve makes no sense. On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:02 AM, wrote: > I asked him and he would not tell me his reserve or what he would sell it > for > at this time. > > Larry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Mussari" > Cc: "Roadster List" > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 10:03:38 AM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1960 roadster > > I am. > > Auction > Link< > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Fairlady-Roadster-SPL212-1960-Dats > > un-Fairlady-SPL212-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2c56e2a00bQQitemZ190436253707Q > QptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks > > > > I'm also wondering what his reserve is set at... and thinking its probably > not going to sell. B I've found most people have unrealistic reserves set > on > their first go around on ebay. > > > Mark > > On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:32 AM, wrote: > > > Is everyone keeping an eye on the roadster on ebay? > > > > Larry > > ________________________________________ > > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation B $16.00 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage : > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/markmussari at gmail.com > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation B $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/lmflaming at comcast.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/banshee16 at starband.net From jake7140 at yahoo.com Fri Aug 27 11:50:09 2010 From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:50:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 4, Issue 322 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <711631.73334.qm@web37901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ---------------------- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:34:51 -0400 From: "Mark Sedlack" Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Just your thoughts OT Fiat 850 To: "steven boortz" , "Aaron Polivka" , Message-ID: <6F25C34ABBEB4338A80355BC181A4500 at p53ghzduo> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I believe that should have read "the little car was about to be lapped by a roadster and a 240z........" ------------------------- That's what I would have thought, but look at overall positioin and best lap times. He beat 'em. Obviously every car is not doing the best it's class can. HP was the slowest production class. But the Sprites and stuff can be fairly quick. So not your typical get out of my way 850. but there has to be a ton of engine work done, and probably way lightened. And you still have to drive it well. Steve Steve's racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society www.elrss.com ________________________________ From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net Fri Aug 27 11:54:07 2010 From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 roadster In-Reply-To: <105163.98093.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <796816.46751.qm@web81705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Gary, There are a few more than 8... http://spl212.multiply.com Send me a few photos of your car & I'll get it posted. Dan Zubkoff Houston Texas --- On Fri, 8/27/10, Gary Callahan wrote: > From: Gary Callahan > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1960 roadster > To: "Roadster List" , lmflaming at comcast.net > Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 10:54 AM > http://tinyurl.com/The-Roadster > > > "The" Roadster? Aren't there around eight, or so, > including mine? > > > Gary Callahan > Beaverton, Oregon > > 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster > SPL311-18665 > > --- On Fri, 8/27/10, lmflaming at comcast.net > > wrote: > > > From: lmflaming at comcast.net > > Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 roadster > To: "Roadster List" > Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 8:32 AM > > > Is everyone keeping an eye on the roadster on ebay? > > Larry > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gcallahan at prodigy.net > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/zubkoff at sbcglobal.net From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net Fri Aug 27 13:09:27 2010 From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:09:27 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Roadsters] How many people does it take to stop diabetes? Message-ID: <33243961.1282936169002.JavaMail.www@app206> A message from Dan Zubkoff zubkoff at sbcglobal.net. Dear Friends and Family: This year I am going the fight to find a cure for my disease along with my daughter Abby. Last year, she made me so proud by raising over $800 for research and education about diabetes. Impressed by her tenacity I asked her to join me on this ride. Together we will be riding as a red team member to get one step further in stomping out this disease has affected millions of american each day. Abby and I will be riding 10 miles in the Tour de Cure and have pledge to raise at least $150 each. Join our Tour de Cure Friends & Family Team! With your support, there's hope! Diabetes can take an enormous emotional and physical toll on people with diabetes and their families. 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If you no longer wish to receive email messages sent from your friends on behalf of this organization, please follow the link below: http://main.diabetes.org/site/TellFriendOpt?action=optout&toe=870dd375b4db5ff982ffbea844aa840673dc9982636fc08382027365347afc81 From umccullough at gmail.com Fri Aug 27 13:14:48 2010 From: umccullough at gmail.com (Urias McCullough) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:14:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 roadster In-Reply-To: <796816.46751.qm@web81705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <105163.98093.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <796816.46751.qm@web81705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Dan Zubkoff wrote: > There are a few more than 8... I suspect he meant there are ~8 currently listed on ebay :) - Urias From gcallahan at prodigy.net Fri Aug 27 13:56:05 2010 From: gcallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 roadster In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <464532.59133.qm@web81004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://tinyurl.com/The-Roadster I was just attempting to be a little funny, as well as get my eBay listing mentioned and posted to the list again. Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 --- On Fri, 8/27/10, Urias McCullough wrote: From: Urias McCullough Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1960 roadster To: "Dan Zubkoff" Cc: "Roadster List" , lmflaming at comcast.net, "Gary Callahan" Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 12:14 PM On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Dan Zubkoff wrote: > There are a few more than 8... I suspect he meant there are ~8 currently listed on ebay :) - Urias From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Fri Aug 27 15:52:56 2010 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:52:56 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] U20 Timing Chain for $20??? Message-ID: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Roadster-SRL311-New-Timing-Chain-3DR94- _W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem483bc12eeeQQitemZ310240161518QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5f TruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_1349wt_844 Peter(Eliza) From sandhoff at csus.edu Fri Aug 27 17:25:19 2010 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:25:19 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] U20 Timing Chain for $20??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4C77E6EF.4460.BFA320B@localhost> > (referring to ebay item #310240161518) The chains are available aftermarket. The one up for bid is not OEM, but probably fine. BUT... it's only the chain. The chains and the gears wear together, as a set. Putting a new chain on a used gear presents a strong risk of chewing up the chain much quicker than if all the components are new. And, a good deal of the 'chain slop' and death rattle comes from the gears being worn. The chain wears and stretches, to be sure, but it's not the lone culprit. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From davesmbox at aol.com Sat Aug 28 06:14:27 2010 From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 08:14:27 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 roadster In-Reply-To: References: <2998672.446425.1282923134923.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <8CD14C1B1A757EC-2948-853C@Webmail-d121.sysops.aol.com> My favorite quote on these cars is from the datsun buyers guide. This is from memory so it may not be exact. " RESTORATION WILL BE AS EXPENSIVE AS FOR ANY CUSTOM SPORTS CAR WHERE PARTS AND SUPPORT ARE NONEXISTENT" Looks like a Jay Leno deep pocket car. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Mussari Cc: Roadster List Sent: Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:03 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1960 roadster I am. Auction Link I'm also wondering what his reserve is set at... and thinking its probably ot going to sell. I've found most people have unrealistic reserves set on heir first go around on ebay. ark On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:32 AM, wrote: > Is everyone keeping an eye on the roadster on ebay? Larry ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/markmussari at gmail.com _______________________________________ atsun-roadsters at autox.team.net onate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation $16.00 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/davesmbox at aol.com From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sat Aug 28 09:39:31 2010 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 08:39:31 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 roadster In-Reply-To: <8CD14C1B1A757EC-2948-853C@Webmail-d121.sysops.aol.com> References: <2998672.446425.1282923134923.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <8CD14C1B1A757EC-2948-853C@Webmail-d121.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <000f01cb46c7$35ca7cd0$a15f7670$@net> While not cheap to restore, it looks to me like all the pieces are there. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of davesmbox at aol.com Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 5:14 AM To: markmussari at gmail.com Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1960 roadster My favorite quote on these cars is from the datsun buyers guide. This is from memory so it may not be exact. " RESTORATION WILL BE AS EXPENSIVE AS FOR ANY CUSTOM SPORTS CAR WHERE PARTS AND SUPPORT ARE NONEXISTENT" Looks like a Jay Leno deep pocket car. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Mussari Cc: Roadster List Sent: Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:03 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1960 roadster I am. Auction Link I'm also wondering what his reserve is set at... and thinking its probably ot going to sell. I've found most people have unrealistic reserves set on heir first go around on ebay. ark On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:32 AM, wrote: > Is everyone keeping an eye on the roadster on ebay? Larry ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/markmussari at gmail.com _______________________________________ atsun-roadsters at autox.team.net onate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation $16.00 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/davesmbox at aol.com ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ppeters914 at comcast.ne t From charlieandannelee at gmail.com Sat Aug 28 12:31:10 2010 From: charlieandannelee at gmail.com (Charlie and Annelee Ellis) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 14:31:10 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Glen trip Message-ID: Hi Folks I am looking for a head count for the DRONE cookout at the Glen Thanks Charlie Ellis From vze2fhba at verizon.net Sat Aug 28 12:45:34 2010 From: vze2fhba at verizon.net (vze2fhba at verizon.net) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 13:45:34 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Glen trip Message-ID: <28227340.1194653.1283021134925.JavaMail.root@vznit170126> From gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com Sat Aug 28 20:41:54 2010 From: gordon.e.maness at hotmail.com (Gordon Maness) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 21:41:54 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 roadster In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As one of the members said "all the parts seem to be there". For a semi-skilled body man this car would be easy. For a fanatic it would be a joy. For a car of this vintage, condition and rarity the bidding seems to me to be low. As for just replacing the chains in a timing set.... I was taught to replace with the sprockets because they wear as a set. You can replace just the chains, but they quickly wear to match the sprockets that they are installed on. 1970 1600 1969 2000 1968 1600 +10 more g From SConway at fielders.com.au Sat Aug 28 20:55:40 2010 From: SConway at fielders.com.au (Sam Conway) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 12:25:40 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 roadster Message-ID: <09E4074C0F830C458934327282278BF00530E049@EDWEXVS01.hills.hillsad.com> I agree this would not be a difficult resto at all anyway its not like you would be restoring it to drive everyday all conditions it would be for display and nice days drive Samuel Aus 1968 2000 1975 260z 2 seater 1999 WRX sti 2Dr ----- Original Message ----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Sun Aug 29 12:11:54 2010 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1960 roadster As one of the members said "all the parts seem to be there". For a semi-skilled body man this car would be easy. For a fanatic it would be a joy. For a car of this vintage, condition and rarity the bidding seems to me to be low. As for just replacing the chains in a timing set.... I was taught to replace with the sprockets because they wear as a set. You can replace just the chains, but they quickly wear to match the sprockets that they are installed on. 1970 1600 1969 2000 1968 1600 +10 more g ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/sconway at fielders.com.au From scott8933 at socal.rr.com Sun Aug 29 00:11:27 2010 From: scott8933 at socal.rr.com (Scott Ulrich) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 23:11:27 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 roadster In-Reply-To: <8CD14C1B1A757EC-2948-853C@Webmail-d121.sysops.aol.com> References: <2998672.446425.1282923134923.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <8CD14C1B1A757EC-2948-853C@Webmail-d121.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Leno has a Honda 800 but as far as I'd ever seen no Datsuns of any kind. I used to work on that lot and always hoped someday I'd walk past a nice roadster - or better yet a Toyota 2000GT; but I never saw any Nissans or Datsuns. Besides the 800 he also once drove a Cosmo. On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 5:14 AM, wrote: > .... > > Looks like a Jay Leno deep pocket car. From keithddowning at yahoo.com Sun Aug 29 08:28:07 2010 From: keithddowning at yahoo.com (Keith Downing) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 07:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 roadster In-Reply-To: References: <2998672.446425.1282923134923.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <8CD14C1B1A757EC-2948-853C@Webmail-d121.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <284582.59778.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Actually, Jay has a Honda SM 600. Great little car. And in the video of it, he mentions his first car was a Datsun Roadster 1600 when he was in High School. Someone told me he's having a Datsun Roadster restored, but I've seen no confirmation of that. It would be cool. http://tinyurl.com/2fkauw9 Keith ________________________________ From: Scott Ulrich To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, August 28, 2010 11:11:27 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1960 roadster Leno has a Honda 800 but as far as I'd ever seen no Datsuns of any kind. I used to work on that lot and always hoped someday I'd walk past a nice roadster - or better yet a Toyota 2000GT; but I never saw any Nissans or Datsuns. Besides the 800 he also once drove a Cosmo. On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 5:14 AM, wrote: > .... > > Looks like a Jay Leno deep pocket car. ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/keithddowning at yahoo.com From ruthprimmer at gmail.com Sun Aug 29 21:05:10 2010 From: ruthprimmer at gmail.com (Ruth Primmer) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:05:10 +1000 Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 Roadster In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6665A103-C026-42C3-B72E-6A19A3FB03DF@gmail.com> I made the mistake of showing Alan this one. It's his all time dream car. Now he's checking out shipping companies from the US. Would love to know the story behind the Cedric badge on the grille and the Cedric hubcaps, given they were never sold there. Probably part of it's Japanese sojourn? Who knows? Ruth From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 30 10:02:34 2010 From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 09:02:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 1960 Roadster In-Reply-To: <6665A103-C026-42C3-B72E-6A19A3FB03DF@gmail.com> Message-ID: <139766.34878.qm@web81707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> If you closely review the photos of the grill, you can see the original veritical grill bar & horizontal grill bars are missing, and a mesh styled metal has been used as a substitute. I spoke with the son-in-law of the owner and he did know that the emblem on the grill and hubcaps were from a Cedric. However, he didn't seem to know how/when they were added to the vehicle. Dan Zubkoff Houston, TX --- On Sun, 8/29/10, Ruth Primmer wrote: > From: Ruth Primmer > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1960 Roadster > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 10:05 PM > I made the mistake of showing Alan > this one. It's his all time dream car. Now he's checking out > shipping companies from the US. > > Would love to know the story behind the Cedric badge on the > grille and the Cedric hubcaps, given they were never sold > there. Probably part of it's Japanese sojourn? Who knows? > > Ruth > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $16.00 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/zubkoff at sbcglobal.net From djp4 at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 30 18:49:17 2010 From: djp4 at sbcglobal.net (DAVID J. PEAY) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 17:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Electric fuel pump '68 spl311 1600 Message-ID: <547812.40948.qm@web80707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Electric fuel pump for a 1968, spl311, 1600 Roadster, what size and any particular brand of fuel pump is best application?? From fairlady66 at gmail.com Mon Aug 30 20:37:24 2010 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 19:37:24 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Show-N-Shine Toy Drive on Facebook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Show-N-Shine Toy Drive Click here and check us out on Facebook -- SoCalROC Southern California Datsun Roadster Owners Club Dedicated to the Driving and Restoration of Datsun Roadsters www.socalroc.net -- -- Our Classic Rides: '66 1600-My Fairlady '70 521-Work in progress '72 510-Wagon with Potential Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Datsun, then you are lucky enough. From gsglasgow at comcast.net Mon Aug 30 21:50:18 2010 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 20:50:18 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Electric fuel pump '68 spl311 1600 In-Reply-To: <547812.40948.qm@web80707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <547812.40948.qm@web80707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I used a Facet solid-state pump on mine. It's really handy for priming the carbs after the car has been sitting for a while. http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=8440 Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of DAVID J. PEAY Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 5:49 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Electric fuel pump '68 spl311 1600 Electric fuel pump for a 1968, spl311, 1600 Roadster, what size and any particular brand of fuel pump is best application?? ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $16.00 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/gsglasgow at comcast.net From RWM at RWMann.com Tue Aug 31 05:26:55 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 07:26:55 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Electric fuel pump '68 spl311 1600 In-Reply-To: References: <547812.40948.qm@web80707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C7CE6FF.70509@RWMann.com> Which mechanical fuel pump blanking plate is used? I've seen both BBC and SBC referenced. Thanks. - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex Gordon Glasgow wrote: > I used a Facet solid-state pump on mine. It's really handy for priming the > carbs after the car has been sitting for a while. > > http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=8440 > > Gordon Glasgow > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of DAVID J. PEAY > Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 5:49 PM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Electric fuel pump '68 spl311 1600 > > Electric fuel pump for a 1968, spl311, 1600 Roadster, what size and any > particular brand of fuel pump is best application?? 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David 510-552-0529 From gsglasgow at comcast.net Tue Aug 31 09:10:06 2010 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 08:10:06 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Electric fuel pump '68 spl311 1600 In-Reply-To: <4C7CE6FF.70509@RWMann.com> References: <547812.40948.qm@web80707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C7CE6FF.70509@RWMann.com> Message-ID: I seem to have heard SBC more frequently mentioned, but I don't know for sure. I made my own. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: RWM [mailto:RWM at RWMann.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:27 AM To: Gordon Glasgow; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Electric fuel pump '68 spl311 1600 Which mechanical fuel pump blanking plate is used? I've seen both BBC and SBC referenced. Thanks. - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex Gordon Glasgow wrote: > I used a Facet solid-state pump on mine. It's really handy for priming the > carbs after the car has been sitting for a while. > > http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=8440 > > Gordon Glasgow > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of DAVID J. PEAY > Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 5:49 PM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Electric fuel pump '68 spl311 1600 > > Electric fuel pump for a 1968, spl311, 1600 Roadster, what size and any > particular brand of fuel pump is best application?? From RWM at RWMann.com Tue Aug 31 09:34:08 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 11:34:08 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Electric fuel pump '68 spl311 1600 In-Reply-To: References: <547812.40948.qm@web80707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C7CE6FF.70509@RWMann.com> Message-ID: <4C7D20F0.9080608@RWMann.com> From RWM at RWMann.com Tue Aug 31 09:56:20 2010 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 11:56:20 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Electric fuel pump '68 spl311 1600 In-Reply-To: References: <547812.40948.qm@web80707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C7CE6FF.70509@RWMann.com> Message-ID: <4C7D2624.6070101@RWMann.com> SBC seems to be the consensus. Thanks, Gordon, Dave, and all who replied. - Bob Gordon Glasgow wrote: > I seem to have heard SBC more frequently mentioned, but I don't know for > sure. I made my own. > > Gordon Glasgow > > -----Original Message----- > From: RWM [mailto:RWM at RWMann.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:27 AM > To: Gordon Glasgow; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Electric fuel pump '68 spl311 1600 > > Which mechanical fuel pump blanking plate is used? I've seen both BBC > and SBC referenced. > > Thanks. > > - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex > > > > Gordon Glasgow wrote: > >> I used a Facet solid-state pump on mine. It's really handy for priming the >> carbs after the car has been sitting for a while. >> >> http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=8440 >> >> Gordon Glasgow >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net >> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of DAVID J. >> > PEAY > >> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 5:49 PM >> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Subject: [Roadsters] Electric fuel pump '68 spl311 1600 >> >> Electric fuel pump for a 1968, spl311, 1600 Roadster, what size and any >> particular brand of fuel pump is best application?? >> > > > -- R.W. Mann & Company, Inc. >> Airline Industry Analysis Port Washington, NY 11050 >> tel 516-944-0900, fax -7280 mailto:info at RWMann.com >> URL http://www.RWMann.com/ This e-mail is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the above sender immediately then delete the original e-mail. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. From alvingogi at gmail.com Tue Aug 31 16:02:50 2010 From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 15:02:50 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] JCCS 9/12/10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am looking to caravan down to JCCS from the Bay Area, Saturday am. Anyone? On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 8:14 AM, wrote: > Japanese Classic Car Show Association > Event Address: 1126 Queens Hwy, Long Beach, CA 90802 > > The Japanese Classic Car Show Association is proud to announce the 6th > Annual Japanese Classic Car Show: a celebration of growth and strength > through half a decade. > > Please join us on Sunday, September 12, at Queen Mary Park in Long Beach, > CA, rain or shine. Admission $8 for adults, and kids under 12 are free. > > ---------------------------------- > > Who's going? Dime, Quarterly will be there. I'll be there. From alvingogi at gmail.com Tue Aug 31 16:04:19 2010 From: alvingogi at gmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 15:04:19 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] JCCS 9/12/10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Is anyone interested in caravanning down to JCCS from the Bay Area on Saturday am? > On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 8:14 AM, wrote: > >> Japanese Classic Car Show Association >> Event Address: 1126 Queens Hwy, Long Beach, CA 90802 >> >> The Japanese Classic Car Show Association is proud to announce the 6th >> Annual Japanese Classic Car Show: a celebration of growth and strength >> through half a decade. >> >> Please join us on Sunday, September 12, at Queen Mary Park in Long Beach, >> CA, rain or shine. Admission $8 for adults, and kids under 12 are free. >> >> ---------------------------------- >> >> Who's going? Dime, Quarterly will be there. I'll be there.