From RWM at RWMann.com Sun Mar 1 05:55:02 2009 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM (Out of the Office)) Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 07:55:02 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: Check this out...for car guys In-Reply-To: <6E4A0F9E409E4A348C0DF7F79E9A413A@Daryl> References: <6E4A0F9E409E4A348C0DF7F79E9A413A@Daryl> Message-ID: <49AA85A6.3090304@RWMann.com> Neat. Just add proper material specs,and voila! Daryl Smith wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggvzcGdZsTc&eurl= Jay Leno hosting ........ From chalsted at comcast.net Sun Mar 1 12:24:03 2009 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:24:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] very nice 2000 grille and other stuff going on ebay In-Reply-To: <1058251756.3148301235935160050.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <847091594.3150261235935443223.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I'm planning to put some stuff up on ebay between now and tuesday to run thru next sunday. won'tB list it all here , ask if you have a need or desire for any particular parts. also have some real good project roadsters and unusual pieces. some of the following I may not list, just stuff I have available 2L grille- rechromed outer rim very nice, excellent crossbar with a bit of the black paint on the alternate ribs flecked off- will want to respray the black- being sold with NOS "D" emblem. still looking around for a real nice screen piece to go behind all that. this is about as close as you'll ever get to a NOS grille without actually finding a NOS grille. recently a NOS 2L grille went for $1400 on ebay....may seem mercenary, but looking for $1k for this one. Nissan factory workshop manual ignition switch with key, has the red wire- not sure which year that means it is (maybe someone can enlighten me- '70?) '69 turnsignal switch ass'y complete, nice shape nice door top finisher panels w/no fuzzys 68-70 restored late style Solex setups all but aircleaner/filters restored pair of 40mm Mikuni-Solexes set up full race for a 1600, don't have the factory manifold anymore... carbs done by Dan Garrison, real nice work feel free to contact me before I get this stuff listed if you like... Craig From alvingogi at hotmail.com Sun Mar 1 15:55:48 2009 From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:55:48 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] '66-'67 160mph Speedo/7k tach for sale Message-ID: $500 Pictures: http://news.webshots.com/photo/2181482540058696712rXENwO Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Contacts: Organize your contact list. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-Blog-cn s!503D1D86EBB2B53C!2285.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_032009 From drc at virtualized.org Sun Mar 1 17:10:20 2009 From: drc at virtualized.org (David Conrad) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 14:10:20 -1000 Subject: [Roadsters] Advice requested... Message-ID: <69A8A55A-2B47-4F63-9F19-AA52DBCE0CA7@virtualized.org> Hi, I've recently inherited a 1968 Datsun 1600 from my father who recently passed away (some of you may have interacted with him, he posted on this mailing list as konadave1 at hawaii.rr.com). The car is in reasonably good shape, although it has suffered a bit because my dad's health prior to his death precluded him driving it for a couple of years. It is drivable but has a few known problems, e.g., the horn and windshield wipers don't work and both the front left and rear right brakes are sticking. As far as I can tell, aside from a few bubbles, there isn't a lot of rust (which is surprising given it is located in Kailua-Kona, Hawaii) and runs, albeit a bit rough. I took it to a garage in Kona, but they didn't have the expertise to do anything other than the inspection I needed to get the title changed and re-registered ("Carburetors? Haven't seen those in a while."). Due to time limitatinos as a result of my job and the lack of a garage (and frankly, a lack of talent working on cars), I am not in a good position to fix the various issues at this point in time. I live in the San Francisco bay area and I am thinking about shipping it to California from Hawaii, but don't really know where to start about getting it worked on. My dad always spoke highly of this list, so I'd appreciate any suggestions the assembled experts here might offer on what I should do with it. To be clear, I have no interest in selling the car. Ideally, I'd like to get it into mint condition to honor my dad, however I haven't the slightest idea how much something like that would cost... Thanks for any suggestions you can provide. Thanks, David R(andolph) Conrad '68 Datsun 1600 From Keith0alan at aol.com Sun Mar 1 19:37:39 2009 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:37:39 EST Subject: [Roadsters] Advice requested... Message-ID: David, First of all let me express my sincerest condolences at your dads passing. I corresponded with him on occasion and had a wonderful visit three years ago when I was on the island. As to the car, there are several knowledgeable and talented roadster folks in the bay area, both professional and amateur, that I am sure would be happy to help you with the car. I for my part do a bit of work on the carbs and will be happy to lend any assistance that I can. If you are able to fit it into your schedule you are invited to join us at the upcoming Solvang and Mt. Shasta get togethers. I know you will be warmly welcomed. Keith "the slow carb guy" Williams In a message dated 3/1/2009 4:11:09 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, drc at virtualized.org writes: Hi, I've recently inherited a 1968 Datsun 1600 from my father who recently passed away (some of you may have interacted with him, he posted on this mailing list as konadave1 at hawaii.rr.com). The car is in reasonably good shape, although it has suffered a bit because my dad's health prior to his death precluded him driving it for a couple of years. It is drivable but has a few known problems, e.g., the horn and windshield wipers don't work and both the front left and rear right brakes are sticking. As far as I can tell, aside from a few bubbles, there isn't a lot of rust (which is surprising given it is located in Kailua-Kona, Hawaii) and runs, albeit a bit rough. I took it to a garage in Kona, but they didn't have the expertise to do anything other than the inspection I needed to get the title changed and re-registered ("Carburetors? Haven't seen those in a while."). Due to time limitatinos as a result of my job and the lack of a garage (and frankly, a lack of talent working on cars), I am not in a good position to fix the various issues at this point in time. I live in the San Francisco bay area and I am thinking about shipping it to California from Hawaii, but don't really know where to start about getting it worked on. My dad always spoke highly of this list, so I'd appreciate any suggestions the assembled experts here might offer on what I should do with it. To be clear, I have no interest in selling the car. Ideally, I'd like to get it into mint condition to honor my dad, however I haven't the slightest idea how much something like that would cost... Thanks for any suggestions you can provide. Thanks, David R(andolph) Conrad '68 Datsun 1600 You are subscribed as keith0alan at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From aultgc at att.net Mon Mar 2 00:24:50 2009 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 01:24:50 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Advice requested... References: <69A8A55A-2B47-4F63-9F19-AA52DBCE0CA7@virtualized.org> Message-ID: <6F98833692F0447A89C340A41F4780F2@gaxp1> David, Your immediate problems do not sound too difficult. If you are not able to find someone from the list to help you with repairs, I think Mike Kerr operates Roadster Restoration in SF, and he is a true expert with all aspects of repair and restoration of these cars. I'm sure there are several other shops, as well, but I know of Mike. Gary Ault Chicago area '66 1600/U20 '67-1/2 2000 Solex ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Conrad" To: Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 6:10 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Advice requested... > Hi, > > I've recently inherited a 1968 Datsun 1600 from my father who recently > passed away (some of you may have interacted with him, he posted on this > mailing list as konadave1 at hawaii.rr.com). The car is in reasonably good > shape, although it has suffered a bit because my dad's health prior to > his death precluded him driving it for a couple of years. It is drivable > but has a few known problems, e.g., the horn and windshield wipers don't > work and both the front left and rear right brakes are sticking. As far > as I can tell, aside from a few bubbles, there isn't a lot of rust (which > is surprising given it is located in Kailua-Kona, Hawaii) and runs, > albeit a bit rough. I took it to a garage in Kona, but they didn't have > the expertise to do anything other than the inspection I needed to get > the title changed and re-registered ("Carburetors? Haven't seen those in > a while."). > > Due to time limitatinos as a result of my job and the lack of a garage > (and frankly, a lack of talent working on cars), I am not in a good > position to fix the various issues at this point in time. I live in the > San Francisco bay area and I am thinking about shipping it to California > from Hawaii, but don't really know where to start about getting it worked > on. My dad always spoke highly of this list, so I'd appreciate any > suggestions the assembled experts here might offer on what I should do > with it. > > To be clear, I have no interest in selling the car. Ideally, I'd like to > get it into mint condition to honor my dad, however I haven't the > slightest idea how much something like that would cost... > > Thanks for any suggestions you can provide. > > Thanks, > David R(andolph) Conrad > '68 Datsun 1600 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From tputland at charter.net Mon Mar 2 05:31:40 2009 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 4:31:40 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Free Food Message-ID: <20090302073140.1U5IN.1723194.root@mp12> I am not a real big fan of Arbys, but someone out there might be... http://arbys.fbmta.com/members/ViewMailing.aspx?MailingID=27917289331 Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning From leehinger at verizon.net Mon Mar 2 07:28:12 2009 From: leehinger at verizon.net (Lee Ehinger) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:28:12 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: Check this out...for car guys In-Reply-To: <6E4A0F9E409E4A348C0DF7F79E9A413A@Daryl> Message-ID: <2FD5C4EA762F4409BE67BC95408CA117@homeo9ltgh9dtd> Jay Leno talks about his 1st car - a 1600 roadster & Mr. K in a GTR review... -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daryl Smith Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 9:57 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: Check this out...for car guys >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggvzcGdZsTc&eurl= Jay Leno hosting ........ From sumton at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 2 08:13:58 2009 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:13:58 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] pertronix Message-ID: <002301c99b49$ae2d6be0$6f03a8c0@ranteer.local> i just scanned in the installation and trouble shooting pages that came with my pertronix for a list member. if anyone else would like a copy please contact me offline and i'll forward you a copy as well. From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com Mon Mar 2 11:19:42 2009 From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:19:42 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun in print! Message-ID: Wow! Check out Hemmings Sports & Exotic Car magazine, April 2009 for a full length article and photos on Alvin Gogineni's SR20 powered Datsun 2000. Great car. Great article. Way to go Alvin! Alvin, did you ever think about putting a 2 liter style grill on it? Greg SRL31100494 From gogineni.alvin at gene.com Mon Mar 2 11:23:20 2009 From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:23:20 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun in print! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51A78F4B-0289-4A6A-8964-63C362F1CDD1@gene.com> it's out!!!??? Cool I will go to Barnes and Noble tonight for sure :) I always wanted a 1500-style grille, never liked the 2-liter one because it had less chrome. On Mar 2, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Gregory S. Morrison wrote: > Wow! Check out Hemmings Sports & Exotic Car magazine, April 2009 for > a full > length article and photos on Alvin Gogineni's SR20 powered Datsun > 2000. > Great car. Great article. Way to go Alvin! > > Alvin, did you ever think about putting a 2 liter style grill on it? > > Greg > SRL31100494 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gogineni.alvin at gene.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 2 11:56:36 2009 From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:56:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Advice requested... In-Reply-To: <69A8A55A-2B47-4F63-9F19-AA52DBCE0CA7@virtualized.org> Message-ID: <365217.71546.qm@web81707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> David, I'm sorry to hear that your father has passed away. Dave was a lively contributor to the Datsun Roadster list. You can ship you car from Hawaii directly to the Port of Oakland via Matson Shipping. Full details can be found at: http://matson.com/matnav/services/hawaii.html Actually, an ex-nissan Datsun Roadster racer, Elroy Goto, works (or at least he did a few years ago) at Matson. In the Bay Area, there are several shops which can help you with the roadster. You may wish to check out Datsun Sports: http://datsunsports.com/ Best of Luck. Dan Zubkoff Houston, TX --- On Sun, 3/1/09, David Conrad wrote: From: David Conrad Subject: [Roadsters] Advice requested... To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 6:10 PM Hi, I've recently inherited a 1968 Datsun 1600 from my father who recently passed away (some of you may have interacted with him, he posted on this mailing list as konadave1 at hawaii.rr.com). The car is in reasonably good shape, although it has suffered a bit because my dad's health prior to his death precluded him driving it for a couple of years. It is drivable but has a few known problems, e.g., the horn and windshield wipers don't work and both the front left and rear right brakes are sticking. As far as I can tell, aside from a few bubbles, there isn't a lot of rust (which is surprising given it is located in Kailua-Kona, Hawaii) and runs, albeit a bit rough. I took it to a garage in Kona, but they didn't have the expertise to do anything other than the inspection I needed to get the title changed and re-registered ("Carburetors? Haven't seen those in a while."). Due to time limitatinos as a result of my job and the lack of a garage (and frankly, a lack of talent working on cars), I am not in a good position to fix the various issues at this point in time. I live in the San Francisco bay area and I am thinking about shipping it to California from Hawaii, but don't really know where to start about getting it worked on. My dad always spoke highly of this list, so I'd appreciate any suggestions the assembled experts here might offer on what I should do with it. To be clear, I have no interest in selling the car. Ideally, I'd like to get it into mint condition to honor my dad, however I haven't the slightest idea how much something like that would cost... Thanks for any suggestions you can provide. Thanks, David R(andolph) Conrad '68 Datsun 1600 You are subscribed as zubkoff at sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Mar 2 12:28:08 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:28:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun in print! In-Reply-To: <51A78F4B-0289-4A6A-8964-63C362F1CDD1@gene.com> Message-ID: <16419596.4338991236022088713.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Bling! Bling! Bling! Seriously, congrats on the article. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alvin Gogineni" To: "Gregory S. Morrison" Cc: "Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 10:23:20 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun in print! it's out!!!??? Cool I will go to Barnes and Noble tonight for sure :) I always wanted a 1500-style grille, never liked the 2-liter one because it had less chrome. On Mar 2, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Gregory S. Morrison wrote: > Wow! Check out Hemmings Sports & Exotic Car magazine, April 2009 for > a full > length article and photos on Alvin Gogineni's SR20 powered Datsun > 2000. > Great car. Great article. Way to go Alvin! > > Alvin, did you ever think about putting a 2 liter style grill on it? > > Greg > SRL31100494 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gogineni.alvin at gene.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From d_kroninger at hotmail.com Mon Mar 2 12:44:16 2009 From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:44:16 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Request for assistance Message-ID: Hey all, I am relatively new to this mailing list and to the wonderful world of Datsun Roadsters. I have been looking for a car for about 2 years now, and have finally found a decent option. The car I am looking at is located in Lansing Michigan. I am wondering if anyone on the list might be near that area and would be interested in taking a look at the car for me. I currently live in Madison Wisconsin and would like to avoid the 6 hour trip to look at it if it is not worth it. Also, being new to the whole deal, I would really appreciate having someone look at it who knows what they are looking at. The VIN on the car is SPL311 - 12162. Any info that you might have on the car, or anyone who would like to look at it for me would be greatly appreciated. I am currently working with the seller to get all the info I can on it, but any extra help would be wonderful. Thanks for taking the time to look at this. Let me know if you can help. Dan _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Mar 2 13:00:24 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:00:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Request for assistance In-Reply-To: <1951474877.4356131236023980596.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <7103013.4356741236024024794.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> FWIW, that VIN makes it a 67.5 1600, and it's not in the 311s.org Roadster Registry. Tim's in Bellville (kinda-sorta near Madison)....road trip! Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Kroninger" To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 11:44:16 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] Request for assistance Hey all, I am relatively new to this mailing list and to the wonderful world of Datsun Roadsters. I have been looking for a car for about 2 years now, and have finally found a decent option. The car I am looking at is located in Lansing Michigan. I am wondering if anyone on the list might be near that area and would be interested in taking a look at the car for me. I currently live in Madison Wisconsin and would like to avoid the 6 hour trip to look at it if it is not worth it. Also, being new to the whole deal, I would really appreciate having someone look at it who knows what they are looking at. The VIN on the car is SPL311 - 12162. Any info that you might have on the car, or anyone who would like to look at it for me would be greatly appreciated. I am currently working with the seller to get all the info I can on it, but any extra help would be wonderful. Thanks for taking the time to look at this. Let me know if you can help. Dan _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From drc at virtualized.org Mon Mar 2 14:00:36 2009 From: drc at virtualized.org (David Conrad) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 11:00:36 -1000 Subject: [Roadsters] Advice requested... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <70FCAA9C-332E-46B9-9FDC-0DF7B4D653A5@virtualized.org> Keith, On Mar 1, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Keith0alan at aol.com wrote: > First of all let me express my sincerest condolences at your > dads passing. I corresponded with him on occasion and had a > wonderful visit three years ago when I was on the island. Thanks very much for the thoughts. He very much enjoyed when folks from the Roadster list came to visit. > As to the car, there are several knowledgeable and talented > roadster folks in the bay area, both professional and amateur, that > I am sure would be happy to help you with the car. I for my part do > a bit of work on the carbs and will be happy to lend any assistance > that I can. Thanks! I see from other notes I've received you're being a bit modest (:-)). Given my dad always considered getting a carb to operate efficiently black magic and he was infinitely better at cars than I, I'm sure I'll be harassing you with questions in the future. > If you are able to fit it into your schedule you are invited to > join us at the upcoming Solvang and Mt. Shasta get togethers. I know > you will be warmly welcomed. I'll plan on both... Regards, -drc From eddietude at socal.rr.com Mon Mar 2 14:06:11 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:06:11 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Advice requested... In-Reply-To: <70FCAA9C-332E-46B9-9FDC-0DF7B4D653A5@virtualized.org> References: <70FCAA9C-332E-46B9-9FDC-0DF7B4D653A5@virtualized.org> Message-ID: <49AC4A43.7050702@socal.rr.com> David, 311s.org has a LOT of info on there as well. Eddie David Conrad wrote: > Keith, > > On Mar 1, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Keith0alan at aol.com wrote: >> First of all let me express my sincerest condolences at your dads >> passing. I corresponded with him on occasion and had a wonderful >> visit three years ago when I was on the island. > > Thanks very much for the thoughts. He very much enjoyed when folks > from the Roadster list came to visit. > >> As to the car, there are several knowledgeable and talented >> roadster folks in the bay area, both professional and amateur, that I >> am sure would be happy to help you with the car. I for my part do a >> bit of work on the carbs and will be happy to lend any assistance >> that I can. > > Thanks! I see from other notes I've received you're being a bit > modest (:-)). Given my dad always considered getting a carb to > operate efficiently black magic and he was infinitely better at cars > than I, I'm sure I'll be harassing you with questions in the future. > >> If you are able to fit it into your schedule you are invited to >> join us at the upcoming Solvang and Mt. Shasta get togethers. I know >> you will be warmly welcomed. > > I'll plan on both... > > Regards, > -drc > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From eddietude at socal.rr.com Mon Mar 2 14:21:53 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:21:53 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator/generator questions Message-ID: <49AC4DF1.4090909@socal.rr.com> Hi all, In going through my box of spare parts that came with my car, I found some stuff, and am not sure if they are random parts that ended up in the box from a previous owner OR if they are actual Datsun Roadster parts... 1st, a generator. Not an alternator, but a generator.. Did roadsters ever use a generator? 2nd, a Mitsubishi alternator. This one is perplexing, as it doesn't mount the way my 1966 model does. The 1966 one has two 'tabs" that grab either side of the mounting braket that's attached to the side of the motor. Anyone know if these are from a roadster, or just random crud that was in the box? (I also found two carbeurators, that were NOTHING off a roadster... so I'm wondering..) Eddie From mark at dealermats.com Mon Mar 2 14:30:06 2009 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:30:06 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator/generator questions In-Reply-To: <49AC4DF1.4090909@socal.rr.com> References: <49AC4DF1.4090909@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <95A507BC-14E0-48EC-BF7D-0CB3069B777E@dealermats.com> Single carb 1500's used a generator. Mitsubishi made many alternators including stock ones for the Roadsters, without a photo it is tough to tell. Mark On Mar 2, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Eddie wrote: > Hi all, > > In going through my box of spare parts that came with my car, I > found some stuff, and am not sure if they are random parts that > ended up in the box from a previous owner OR if they are actual > Datsun Roadster parts... > > 1st, a generator. Not an alternator, but a generator.. > Did roadsters ever use a generator? > > 2nd, a Mitsubishi alternator. This one is perplexing, as it doesn't > mount the way my 1966 model does. The 1966 one has two 'tabs" that > grab either side of the mounting braket that's attached to the side > of the motor. > > Anyone know if these are from a roadster, or just random crud that > was in the box? (I also found two carbeurators, that were NOTHING > off a roadster... so I'm wondering..) > > Eddie > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mark at dealermats.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From eddietude at socal.rr.com Mon Mar 2 14:36:31 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:36:31 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator/generator questions In-Reply-To: <95A507BC-14E0-48EC-BF7D-0CB3069B777E@dealermats.com> References: <49AC4DF1.4090909@socal.rr.com> <95A507BC-14E0-48EC-BF7D-0CB3069B777E@dealermats.com> Message-ID: <49AC515F.6020608@socal.rr.com> Can photo's be posted to the e-mails on the list? Eddie Mark Dent wrote: > Single carb 1500's used a generator. Mitsubishi made many alternators > including stock ones for the Roadsters, without a photo it is tough > to tell. > > Mark > > > > > > On Mar 2, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Eddie wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> In going through my box of spare parts that came with my car, I found >> some stuff, and am not sure if they are random parts that ended up in >> the box from a previous owner OR if they are actual Datsun Roadster >> parts... >> >> 1st, a generator. Not an alternator, but a generator.. >> Did roadsters ever use a generator? >> >> 2nd, a Mitsubishi alternator. This one is perplexing, as it doesn't >> mount the way my 1966 model does. The 1966 one has two 'tabs" that >> grab either side of the mounting braket that's attached to the side >> of the motor. >> >> Anyone know if these are from a roadster, or just random crud that >> was in the box? (I also found two carbeurators, that were NOTHING >> off a roadster... so I'm wondering..) >> >> Eddie >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as mark at dealermats.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From Keith0alan at aol.com Mon Mar 2 14:55:14 2009 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:55:14 EST Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator/generator questions Message-ID: Can you send pictures of the carbs? You can't post them to the list directly but you can either send a link to photobucket or some similar service or you can send them directly to me. The earlier 1500s came with a generator and similar but different carbs. keith In a message dated 3/2/2009 1:22:30 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, eddietude at socal.rr.com writes: Hi all, In going through my box of spare parts that came with my car, I found some stuff, and am not sure if they are random parts that ended up in the box from a previous owner OR if they are actual Datsun Roadster parts... 1st, a generator. Not an alternator, but a generator.. Did roadsters ever use a generator? 2nd, a Mitsubishi alternator. This one is perplexing, as it doesn't mount the way my 1966 model does. The 1966 one has two 'tabs" that grab either side of the mounting braket that's attached to the side of the motor. Anyone know if these are from a roadster, or just random crud that was in the box? (I also found two carbeurators, that were NOTHING off a roadster... so I'm wondering..) Eddie You are subscribed as keith0alan at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219957551x1201325337/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From ljordan704 at netscape.net Mon Mar 2 15:21:29 2009 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:21:29 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator/generator questions In-Reply-To: <49AC515F.6020608@socal.rr.com> References: <49AC4DF1.4090909@socal.rr.com><95A507BC-14E0-48EC-BF7D-0CB3069B777E@dealermats.com> <49AC515F.6020608@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <8CB699C5E7E29B7-AE8-18@mblk-d13.sysops.aol.com> Webshots is a nice site to establish a place to put your pics and then you just post the link here in order for us to view the parts. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Eddie To: Mark Dent Cc: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 1:36 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Alternator/generator questions Can photo's be posted to the e-mails on the list?? ? Eddie? ? Mark Dent wrote:? > Single carb 1500's used a generator. Mitsubishi made many alternators > including stock ones for the Roadsters, without a photo it is tough > to tell.? >? > Mark? >? >? >? >? >? > On Mar 2, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Eddie wrote:? >? >> Hi all,? >>? >> In going through my box of spare parts that came with my car, I found >> some stuff, and am not sure if they are random parts that ended up in >> the box from a previous owner OR if they are actual Datsun Roadster >> parts...? >>? >> 1st, a generator. Not an alternator, but a generator..? >> Did roadsters ever use a generator?? >>? >> 2nd, a Mitsubishi alternator. This one is perplexing, as it doesn't >> mount the way my 1966 model does. The 1966 one has two 'tabs" that >> grab either side of the mounting braket that's attached to the side >> of the motor.? >>? >> Anyone know if these are from a roadster, or just random crud that >> was in the box? (I also found two carbeurators, that were NOTHING >> off a roadster... so I'm wondering..)? >>? >> Eddie? >> ________________________________________? >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? >>? >> You are subscribed as mark at dealermats.com? >>? >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list? >>? >> http://www.team.net/archive? >>? >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters? ________________________________________? Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? ? You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net? ? Datsun-roadsters mailing list? ? http://www.team.net/archive? ? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters? From eddietude at socal.rr.com Mon Mar 2 19:24:47 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:24:47 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator/generator pictures In-Reply-To: <49AC515F.6020608@socal.rr.com> References: <49AC4DF1.4090909@socal.rr.com> <95A507BC-14E0-48EC-BF7D-0CB3069B777E@dealermats.com> <49AC515F.6020608@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <49AC94EF.3090409@socal.rr.com> The generator: http://s218.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/eddietude/?action=view¤t=generator.jpg The alternator: http://s218.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/eddietude/?action=view¤t=alternator.jpg Another Alternator shot http://s218.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/eddietude/?action=view¤t=alt2.jpg So, thanks guys, Let me know if you can ID these things... The alternator was in my parts car, but looked like someone took an OLD alt mounting bracket, and ran a long bolt through the alternator and jury rigged the thing together... Perhaps it was the wrong bracket on the car, I dunno. Eddie Eddie wrote: > Can photo's be posted to the e-mails on the list? > > Eddie > > Mark Dent wrote: >> Single carb 1500's used a generator. Mitsubishi made many >> alternators including stock ones for the Roadsters, without a photo >> it is tough to tell. >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mar 2, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Eddie wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> In going through my box of spare parts that came with my car, I >>> found some stuff, and am not sure if they are random parts that >>> ended up in the box from a previous owner OR if they are actual >>> Datsun Roadster parts... >>> >>> 1st, a generator. Not an alternator, but a generator.. >>> Did roadsters ever use a generator? >>> >>> 2nd, a Mitsubishi alternator. This one is perplexing, as it doesn't >>> mount the way my 1966 model does. The 1966 one has two 'tabs" that >>> grab either side of the mounting braket that's attached to the side >>> of the motor. >>> >>> Anyone know if these are from a roadster, or just random crud that >>> was in the box? (I also found two carbeurators, that were NOTHING >>> off a roadster... so I'm wondering..) >>> >>> Eddie >>> ________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as mark at dealermats.com >>> >>> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Mon Mar 2 21:05:08 2009 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (Peter Harrison) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:05:08 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Oops - Eliza no va again. Message-ID: So, put new header on car and natch the header didn't match up to the exhaust pipe. No problem there though, but the car did sound just great without muffling - so i revved it a bit and then a bit more and then a bit more still - just loved the sound. stopped and found a puddle of oil under the car - funnily enough it came from a hole in the oil pan and funnily enough it was the front crankshaft bearing/journal that put it there. just a tad messy to say the least. bought a replacement engine on craigslist (that was timely at least) and now i have to take that apart and check it. may go the stroker route since it will all be apart. Ah, the joys of motoring - or not as the case may be. Later Peter From aultgc at att.net Mon Mar 2 21:31:05 2009 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:31:05 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator/generator pictures References: <49AC4DF1.4090909@socal.rr.com><95A507BC-14E0-48EC-BF7D-0CB3069B777E@dealermats.com><49AC515F.6020608@socal.rr.com> <49AC94EF.3090409@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Eddie, The alternator is from a 2000. At least it looks just like the alternators in my 2000s. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" To: "Mark Dent" Cc: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Alternator/generator pictures > The generator: > > http://s218.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/eddietude/?action=view¤t=generator.jpg > > The alternator: > > http://s218.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/eddietude/?action=view¤t=alternator.jpg > > Another Alternator shot > > http://s218.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/eddietude/?action=view¤t=alt2.jpg > > So, thanks guys, Let me know if you can ID these things... > > The alternator was in my parts car, but looked like someone took an OLD > alt mounting bracket, and ran a long bolt through the alternator and jury > rigged the thing together... > > Perhaps it was the wrong bracket on the car, I dunno. > > Eddie > > > Eddie wrote: >> Can photo's be posted to the e-mails on the list? >> >> Eddie >> >> Mark Dent wrote: >>> Single carb 1500's used a generator. Mitsubishi made many alternators >>> including stock ones for the Roadsters, without a photo it is tough to >>> tell. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mar 2, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Eddie wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> In going through my box of spare parts that came with my car, I found >>>> some stuff, and am not sure if they are random parts that ended up in >>>> the box from a previous owner OR if they are actual Datsun Roadster >>>> parts... >>>> >>>> 1st, a generator. Not an alternator, but a generator.. >>>> Did roadsters ever use a generator? >>>> >>>> 2nd, a Mitsubishi alternator. This one is perplexing, as it doesn't >>>> mount the way my 1966 model does. The 1966 one has two 'tabs" that >>>> grab either side of the mounting braket that's attached to the side of >>>> the motor. >>>> >>>> Anyone know if these are from a roadster, or just random crud that was >>>> in the box? (I also found two carbeurators, that were NOTHING off a >>>> roadster... so I'm wondering..) >>>> >>>> Eddie >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> >>>> You are subscribed as mark at dealermats.com >>>> >>>> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >>>> >>>> http://www.team.net/archive >>>> >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From eddietude at socal.rr.com Mon Mar 2 23:36:58 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:36:58 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Newest problem SAE / Metric Message-ID: <49ACD00A.1010802@socal.rr.com> So, Here's the latest problem I've discovered. Not sure if it was the PO or the mechanic who put my motor back together, but my block, which is an H20 (serial number 776777), appears to be metric. (My head is SAE) Turns out, some bonehead used SAE bolts in many of the spots on the block. I'm wondering if I should pull the motor mounts, and transmission to engine bolts too, to re-tap them back to metric, but they seem pretty tight. Plus, I'd have to pull the motor again, not something I'm looking forward to doing AGAIN.... Thoughts? Tonight, I disassembled all of the exterior parts, water pump, alternator bracket, fuel pump, etc, and tapped them clean again back to metric. They were NOT chewed up too bad, so I think I'm ok. I'm going to order new bolts from McMaster. I found it weird that the water pump seems to use 3 different sized bolts. a 8mm 1.25 and a 9mm 1.25 and a 10mm 1.25. Does that sound right to you guys? Also, it appears the timing chain cover bolts used were SAE, and my guess is they SHOULD have been metric, yes? Eddie From Walter.Peterson at cox.net Tue Mar 3 00:03:20 2009 From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter Peterson) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:03:20 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Newest problem SAE / Metric In-Reply-To: <49ACD00A.1010802@socal.rr.com> References: <49ACD00A.1010802@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <001301c99bce$22dae970$6890bc50$@Peterson@cox.net> Both the Blocks & the heads can be Metric or English! Yes it's true. Leave well enough alone and use the stock threads on every hole you find. Bolt clearances will be fine. It will just be frustrating when you do any rework on the motor. I have an English block & head, but it has a metric water pump, Oil Pump, Alternator & Distributor. Good luck, Walter Peterson Goleta Ca, 93117 Street driven race motor 2000 3-Main(R) Solexes, cam etc. 5-Speed & LSD. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eddie Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:37 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] Newest problem SAE / Metric So, Here's the latest problem I've discovered. Not sure if it was the PO or the mechanic who put my motor back together, but my block, which is an H20 (serial number 776777), appears to be metric. (My head is SAE) Turns out, some bonehead used SAE bolts in many of the spots on the block. I'm wondering if I should pull the motor mounts, and transmission to engine bolts too, to re-tap them back to metric, but they seem pretty tight. Plus, I'd have to pull the motor again, not something I'm looking forward to doing AGAIN.... Thoughts? Tonight, I disassembled all of the exterior parts, water pump, alternator bracket, fuel pump, etc, and tapped them clean again back to metric. They were NOT chewed up too bad, so I think I'm ok. I'm going to order new bolts from McMaster. I found it weird that the water pump seems to use 3 different sized bolts. a 8mm 1.25 and a 9mm 1.25 and a 10mm 1.25. Does that sound right to you guys? Also, it appears the timing chain cover bolts used were SAE, and my guess is they SHOULD have been metric, yes? Eddie You are subscribed as walter.peterson at cox.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From eddietude at socal.rr.com Tue Mar 3 10:34:17 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 09:34:17 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Newest problem SAE / Metric In-Reply-To: <001301c99bce$22dae970$6890bc50$@Peterson@cox.net> References: <49ACD00A.1010802@socal.rr.com> <001301c99bce$22dae970$6890bc50$@Peterson@cox.net> Message-ID: <49AD6A19.6050900@socal.rr.com> The bolts that were used were clearly SAE. The holes are clearly metric. The bolts screw in, but don't tighten properly, and they feel a little loose until "snugged". There were no "stock bolts" on the thing. I'm leaving the timing cover bolts alone, but the others I've already run a tap through. It went in easily, and only a little crud came out. Seems the block was harder than the bolts that were used, and the bolts took much of the wear. I'll use lock-tite on all the bolts, and I figure that should be fine. The only other option, which I would have considered prior to putting the engine back in, is to helicoil the holes, but now that would be a major PITA... Eddie Walter Peterson wrote: > Both the Blocks & the heads can be Metric or English! Yes it's true. > Leave well enough alone and use the stock threads on every hole you find. > Bolt clearances will be fine. It will just be frustrating when you do any > rework on the motor. > > I have an English block & head, but it has a metric water pump, Oil Pump, > Alternator & Distributor. > > > Good luck, > > Walter Peterson > Goleta Ca, 93117 > Street driven race motor > 2000 3-Main(R) Solexes, cam etc. > 5-Speed & LSD. > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eddie > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:37 PM > To: Datsun Roadster List > Subject: [Roadsters] Newest problem SAE / Metric > > So, Here's the latest problem I've discovered. > > Not sure if it was the PO or the mechanic who put my motor back > together, but my block, which is an H20 (serial number 776777), appears > to be metric. (My head is SAE) > > Turns out, some bonehead used SAE bolts in many of the spots on the > block. I'm wondering if I should pull the motor mounts, and > transmission to engine bolts too, to re-tap them back to metric, but > they seem pretty tight. Plus, I'd have to pull the motor again, not > something I'm looking forward to doing AGAIN.... > > Thoughts? > > Tonight, I disassembled all of the exterior parts, water pump, > alternator bracket, fuel pump, etc, and tapped them clean again back to > metric. They were NOT chewed up too bad, so I think I'm ok. I'm going > to order new bolts from McMaster. > > I found it weird that the water pump seems to use 3 different sized > bolts. a 8mm 1.25 and a 9mm 1.25 and a 10mm 1.25. Does that sound > right to you guys? > > Also, it appears the timing chain cover bolts used were SAE, and my > guess is they SHOULD have been metric, yes? > > Eddie > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as walter.peterson at cox.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com Tue Mar 3 12:00:59 2009 From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:00:59 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Nice 2000 on ebay Message-ID: There is a really nice 1968 Datsun 2000 on ebay. Very original and complete. Apparently a favorite at Solvang and Shasta for many years. Ends just after 2pm Pacific time. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Roadster-SRL-311-2000-1968-Datsun-SRL- 311-Survivor-Original-Paint-Must-See_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ66Q3a2Q7c65 Q3a3Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem160317999613Q QitemZ160317999613QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks#ht_931wt_1058 Holloway was the prior owner. Anyone know this car? -Greg SRL31100494 From RSCHLEGEL at OCSD.COM Tue Mar 3 12:17:13 2009 From: RSCHLEGEL at OCSD.COM (Schlegel, Richard) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:17:13 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Stroker Motor? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7205D7C8DE0E724A8EBBB88675FBE8CC9F49EEC9@e07ms1.insideocsd.com> What is this stroker motor you speak of? 2000 crank in a 1600 motor? Details! I need Details! Take Care, Rich 1968 Datsun 1600 Roadster http://picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich Member of the SoCal Roadster Owner Club http://higenki.com/socalroc/ Video of SoCalROC from the 2008 Japanese Classic Car Show http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-kkdkaRRco -----Original Message----- bought a replacement engine on craigslist (that was timely at least) and now i have to take that apart and check it. may go the stroker route since it will all be apart. Ah, the joys of motoring - or not as the case may be. Later Peter From solex675 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 3 12:38:19 2009 From: solex675 at hotmail.com (Andrew Murphy) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:38:19 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Nice 2000 on ebay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I believe this car is owned by a guy on the 311s.org site whose handle is "Chopperpilot" (I wonder what he does for a living...). He has this one and a 67.5 2 liter and is looking to sell this one to finance some home improvements. I am sure he will be glad to answer any questions through the site. It is indeed a sweet car. Andrew Murphy 1966 1600 SoCal > Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:00:59 -0800 > From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Nice 2000 on ebay > > There is a really nice 1968 Datsun 2000 on ebay. Very original and complete. > Apparently a favorite at Solvang and Shasta for many years. Ends just after > 2pm Pacific time. > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Roadster-SRL-311-2000-1968-Datsun-SRL- > 311-Survivor-Original-Paint-Must-See_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ66Q3a2Q7c65 > Q3a3Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem160317999613Q > QitemZ160317999613QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks#ht_931wt_1058 > > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Mar 3 12:39:32 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 19:39:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Stroker Motor? In-Reply-To: <1090936679.4880791236109051231.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <2061037399.4882141236109172199.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Guessing you don't visit 311s.org: and scroll down to the Engine: Stroker Related section. Also discussed in the Forums. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Schlegel" To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 11:17:13 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stroker Motor? What is this stroker motor you speak of? 2000 crank in a 1600 motor? Details! I need Details! Take Care, Rich 1968 Datsun 1600 Roadster http://picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich Member of the SoCal Roadster Owner Club http://higenki.com/socalroc/ Video of SoCalROC from the 2008 Japanese Classic Car Show http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-kkdkaRRco -----Original Message----- bought a replacement engine on craigslist (that was timely at least) and now i have to take that apart and check it. may go the stroker route since it will all be apart. Ah, the joys of motoring - or not as the case may be. Later Peter From ljordan704 at netscape.net Tue Mar 3 13:21:36 2009 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:21:36 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Stroker Motor? In-Reply-To: <7205D7C8DE0E724A8EBBB88675FBE8CC9F49EEC9@e07ms1.insideocsd.com> References: <7205D7C8DE0E724A8EBBB88675FBE8CC9F49EEC9@e07ms1.insideocsd.com> Message-ID: <8CB6A54C927FA59-17F0-7D8@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Also check the SEARCH function on 311 site and the ARCHIVE link on this site: http://www.team.net/archive Happy Reading! Linda -----Original Message----- From: Schlegel, Richard To: 'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net' Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:17 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stroker Motor? What is this stroker motor you speak of? 2000 crank in a 1600 motor? Details! I need Details! Take Care, Rich 1968 Datsun 1600 Roadster http://picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich Member of the SoCal Roadster Owner Club http://higenki.com/socalroc/ Video of SoCalROC from the 2008 Japanese Classic Car Show http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-kkdkaRRco -----Original Message----- bought a replacement engine on craigslist (that was timely at least) and now i have to take that apart and check it. may go the stroker route since it will all be apart. Ah, the joys of motoring - or not as the case may be. Later Peter You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From chalsted at comcast.net Tue Mar 3 13:33:40 2009 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:33:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Nice 2000 on ebay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <819759410.4241301236112420090.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I couldn't get it to open but know the person selling the car. the blue 67.5 2000 he's keeping used to be mine....B he'd made offers on both my car and the one now on ebay the same day and we both ended up accepting his offers so he ended up with 2 roadsters. he touched base with me a couple weeks back and told me he'd be listing one or the other within the next couple weeks and hadn't yet decided which one. heckuva decision to have to make.... Craig From PDFenter at aol.com Tue Mar 3 14:06:30 2009 From: PDFenter at aol.com (PDFenter at aol.com) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:06:30 EST Subject: [Roadsters] Nice 2000 on ebay Message-ID: Hey All, Thanks for the kind words for my 68 2Liter. It is a real nice car and I half hope it doesn't sell. (I can tell the wife I tried) My name over on 311 is Chopper pilot. That is my job and I fly a helicopter doing firefighting throughout the us as needed. I lurk on the list and read everything but don't post much. Anyway thanks for the compliments. If anyone on the list might be interested in either of the cars let me know. I would like to narrow the herd down by one car. Phil Fenter _pdfenter at aol.com_ (mailto:pdfenter at aol.com) 541-390-5015 Web shots user Pdfenter **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219957551x1201325337/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From sumton at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 3 19:14:30 2009 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 18:14:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 1600 won't run In-Reply-To: <2061037399.4882141236109172199.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <895653.58418.qm@web82804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> well, I finally solved the biggest problem: following this list carefully, I had selected a MSD coil for my car as recommended. but i have removed the ballast resistor. ergo the biggest problem i believe. car runs amazingly better on a Lucas Sport. so, i am now entertaining offers for a virtually unused MSD coil, in still mint condition, for a car with the ballast resistor. i also have, btw, a virtually unused ballast resistor should anyone be interested. please contact me off list. now on with the temporarily interrupted restoration!!!!!!!!!!! From wrenchorhammer at live.com Tue Mar 3 19:56:26 2009 From: wrenchorhammer at live.com (Jim In Virginia) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:56:26 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Newest problem SAE / Metric In-Reply-To: <49ACD00A.1010802@socal.rr.com> References: <49ACD00A.1010802@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: If everything is tight and runs OK, don't mess with it. Re-tapping might take away enough strength so that when you torque stuff down it will strip. Then you will be going down the long bumpy road to heli-coil hell. I mean one or two heli-coils is fine, but it sounds like you may have a LOT! Just my arm-chair engineering opinion. I would also start making plans/saving money to accumulate parts to build a proper engine, just in case something bad happens pre-maturely. Good Luck, Jim Chesapeake, Va > Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:36:58 -0800 > From: eddietude at socal.rr.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Newest problem SAE / Metric > > So, Here's the latest problem I've discovered. > > Not sure if it was the PO or the mechanic who put my motor back > together, but my block, which is an H20 (serial number 776777), appears > to be metric. (My head is SAE) > > Turns out, some bonehead used SAE bolts in many of the spots on the > block. I'm wondering if I should pull the motor mounts, and > transmission to engine bolts too, to re-tap them back to metric, but > they seem pretty tight. Plus, I'd have to pull the motor again, not > something I'm looking forward to doing AGAIN.... > > Thoughts? > > Tonight, I disassembled all of the exterior parts, water pump, > alternator bracket, fuel pump, etc, and tapped them clean again back to > metric. They were NOT chewed up too bad, so I think I'm ok. I'm going > to order new bolts from McMaster. > > I found it weird that the water pump seems to use 3 different sized > bolts. a 8mm 1.25 and a 9mm 1.25 and a 10mm 1.25. Does that sound > right to you guys? > > Also, it appears the timing chain cover bolts used were SAE, and my > guess is they SHOULD have been metric, yes? > > Eddie > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wrenchorhammer at live.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Contacts: Organize your contact list. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-Blog-cn s!503D1D86EBB2B53C!2285.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_032009 From wrenchorhammer at live.com Tue Mar 3 20:00:10 2009 From: wrenchorhammer at live.com (Jim In Virginia) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:00:10 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Stroker Motor? In-Reply-To: <7205D7C8DE0E724A8EBBB88675FBE8CC9F49EEC9@e07ms1.insideocsd.com> References: <7205D7C8DE0E724A8EBBB88675FBE8CC9F49EEC9@e07ms1.insideocsd.com> Message-ID: Yes, bottom line, that is all you need. But if you use the for lift crank (H-20) it drops in without having to cut the nose off the crank. I have a stroker, but it came with the car, and I do not know the details of how it went together, like what rods and pistons to use. The info is out there though. Best Regards, Jim Chesapeake, Va > From: RSCHLEGEL at OCSD.COM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:17:13 -0800 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stroker Motor? > > What is this stroker motor you speak of? 2000 crank in a 1600 motor? Details! > I need Details! > > Take Care, > Rich > 1968 Datsun 1600 Roadster > http://picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich > > Member of the SoCal Roadster Owner Club > http://higenki.com/socalroc/ > > Video of SoCalROC from the 2008 Japanese Classic Car Show > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-kkdkaRRco > > > -----Original Message----- > > bought a replacement engine on craigslist (that was timely at least) and now > i > have to take that apart and check it. may go the stroker route since it will > all be apart. Ah, the joys of motoring - or not as the case may be. > Later > Peter > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wrenchorhammer at live.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail.. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_ WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme From mkiisupra at hotmail.com Tue Mar 3 20:47:05 2009 From: mkiisupra at hotmail.com (Eric Gillis) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 03:47:05 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] 2009 Central CA/Modesto Polar Bear Run 3/07 In-Reply-To: References: <7205D7C8DE0E724A8EBBB88675FBE8CC9F49EEC9@e07ms1.insideocsd.com> Message-ID: It's that time again, for the Modesto Annual Polar Bear Run (we might even see snow) about 150 miles or so round trip, usually back in the Modesto area by 4:00. We'll meet on Sat, the 7th of mar. at The Fruit-Yard Resturant. This is just east of Modesto on hwy 132 (Yosemite ave) at the intersection of hwy 132, Albers/Geer Rd. We'll show up at 8:30 a.m. We will get organized, and we take off at 9:00 a.m. (Tops are optional) Please remember to bring a dish and/or something for the Pot-Luck lunch. Bring your own plates, face wipers, & silverware/plastic knives& forks. Bring a bottle of red wine or other beverage for your enjoyment. Optional, I'm sure it won't go to waste He he heeee !! We've ordered nice weather, however ya never know. A nice warm jacket in the car doesn't take up much room. We will have a limited number of t-shirts, with a pretty cool design celebrating the life and memories of our recently passed friend JR Welch, in his purple roadster with gold wheels. His car was hard to miss, just like his smile and quick wit. Hope to see you on Saturday, March 7 @8:30 a.m. Eric Gillis Modesto Datsun Roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 From daveandlindab at comcast.net Tue Mar 3 20:49:52 2009 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:49:52 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Stroker Motor? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3E6B37FC5A424E97BE058524B5EB1C29@delled48909442> You can also use a sleeve to make up the 1 inch extra length instead of cutting the crank, but you need to extend the keyway slot either way. If you contact local forklift suppliers, you may be able to get a worn out motor with a good crank. Dave Brisco East Coast Roadster -----Original Message----- From: Jim In Virginia [mailto:wrenchorhammer at live.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:00 PM To: rschlegel at ocsd.com; Datsun Roadsters send mail Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stroker Motor? Yes, bottom line, that is all you need. But if you use the for lift crank (H-20) it drops in without having to cut the nose off the crank. I have a stroker, but it came with the car, and I do not know the details of how it went together, like what rods and pistons to use. The info is out there though. Best Regards, Jim Chesapeake, Va > From: RSCHLEGEL at OCSD.COM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:17:13 -0800 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stroker Motor? > > What is this stroker motor you speak of? 2000 crank in a 1600 motor? Details! > I need Details! > > Take Care, > Rich > 1968 Datsun 1600 Roadster http://picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich > > Member of the SoCal Roadster Owner Club http://higenki.com/socalroc/ > > Video of SoCalROC from the 2008 Japanese Classic Car Show > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-kkdkaRRco > > > -----Original Message----- > > bought a replacement engine on craigslist (that was timely at least) > and now > i > have to take that apart and check it. may go the stroker route since > it will > all be apart. Ah, the joys of motoring - or not as the case may be. > Later Peter > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wrenchorhammer at live.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail.. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX _ WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme From drlsmith at dccnet.com Tue Mar 3 20:56:34 2009 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:56:34 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 1600 won't run References: <895653.58418.qm@web82804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <639A95F53E814DA79C77128F336B02EC@Daryl> You have me confused. If you are running points or a pertronix unit, you NEED a ballast resistor. Without it you will prematurely burn out the points/pertronix. If you have an electronic dizzy, then you should upgrade to a 12V coil (your MSD) so you don't burn out the stock coil without the ballast resistor. I believe you can run the stock coil and ballast resistor with the EI dizzy, but you'll get a much better spark, and your car will run better with a 12V coil. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Cheers Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "oliver" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 6:14 PM Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 1600 won't run > well, I finally solved the biggest problem: following this list carefully, > I > had selected a MSD coil for my car as recommended. but i have removed the > ballast resistor. ergo the biggest problem i believe. car runs amazingly > better on a Lucas Sport. > > so, i am now entertaining offers for a virtually unused MSD coil, in still > mint condition, for a car with the ballast resistor. i also have, btw, a > virtually unused ballast resistor should anyone be interested. please > contact > me off list. > > now on with the temporarily interrupted restoration!!!!!!!!!!! > > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as drlsmith at dccnet.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gboone70 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 3 21:24:48 2009 From: gboone70 at yahoo.com (Gary Boone) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:24:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 1600 won't run References: <895653.58418.qm@web82804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <639A95F53E814DA79C77128F336B02EC@Daryl> Message-ID: <798717.44853.qm@web36302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Daryl is correct with his instructions below. GaryBoone ________________________________ From: Daryl Smith To: sumton at sbcglobal.net; Datsun Roadster List Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 8:56:34 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] early 67 1600 won't run You have me confused. If you are running points or a pertronix unit, you NEED a ballast resistor. Without it you will prematurely burn out the points/pertronix. If you have an electronic dizzy, then you should upgrade to a 12V coil (your MSD) so you don't burn out the stock coil without the ballast resistor. I believe you can run the stock coil and ballast resistor with the EI dizzy, but you'll get a much better spark, and your car will run better with a 12V coil. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Cheers Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "oliver" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 6:14 PM Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 1600 won't run > well, I finally solved the biggest problem: following this list carefully, I > had selected a MSD coil for my car as recommended. but i have removed the > ballast resistor. ergo the biggest problem i believe. car runs amazingly > better on a Lucas Sport. > > so, i am now entertaining offers for a virtually unused MSD coil, in still > mint condition, for a car with the ballast resistor. i also have, btw, a > virtually unused ballast resistor should anyone be interested. please contact > me off list. > > now on with the temporarily interrupted restoration!!!!!!!!!!! > > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as drlsmith at dccnet.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as gboone70 at yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Tue Mar 3 21:28:03 2009 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (Peter Harrison) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:28:03 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 1600 won't run References: <895653.58418.qm@web82804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <639A95F53E814DA79C77128F336B02EC@Daryl> Message-ID: So Recently I destroyed my pertronix when I changed from a lucas coil - which had served me for over 20000 miles because it was leaking - new coil - bad pertronix - my belief is that the lucas had a build in resistor - now i am running coil, ballast resiter (1.6 ohms) and all is fine - except for Sunday night of course Peter - Eliza no va no mas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Smith" To: ; "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] early 67 1600 won't run > You have me confused. If you are running points or a pertronix unit, you > NEED a ballast resistor. Without it you will prematurely burn out the > points/pertronix. > > If you have an electronic dizzy, then you should upgrade to a 12V coil > (your MSD) so you don't burn out the stock coil without the ballast > resistor. > I believe you can run the stock coil and ballast resistor with the EI > dizzy, but you'll get a much better spark, and your car will run better > with a 12V coil. > > Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. > > Cheers > Daryl > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "oliver" > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 6:14 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 1600 won't run > > >> well, I finally solved the biggest problem: following this list >> carefully, I >> had selected a MSD coil for my car as recommended. but i have removed >> the >> ballast resistor. ergo the biggest problem i believe. car runs >> amazingly >> better on a Lucas Sport. >> >> so, i am now entertaining offers for a virtually unused MSD coil, in >> still >> mint condition, for a car with the ballast resistor. i also have, btw, a >> virtually unused ballast resistor should anyone be interested. please >> contact >> me off list. >> >> now on with the temporarily interrupted restoration!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as drlsmith at dccnet.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing at hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Tue Mar 3 21:34:36 2009 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (Peter Harrison) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:34:36 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 2009 Central CA/Modesto Polar Bear Run 3/07 References: <7205D7C8DE0E724A8EBBB88675FBE8CC9F49EEC9@e07ms1.insideocsd.com> Message-ID: Now - if only I knew where Modesto was ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Gillis" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 7:47 PM Subject: [Roadsters] 2009 Central CA/Modesto Polar Bear Run 3/07 > It's that time again, for the Modesto Annual Polar Bear Run (we might even > see > snow) about 150 miles or so round trip, usually back in the Modesto area > by > 4:00. > > We'll meet on Sat, the 7th of mar. at The Fruit-Yard Resturant. This is > just > east of Modesto on hwy 132 (Yosemite ave) at the intersection of hwy 132, > Albers/Geer Rd. We'll show up at 8:30 a.m. We will get organized, and we > take > off at 9:00 a.m. (Tops are optional) Please remember to bring a dish > and/or > something for the Pot-Luck lunch. Bring your own plates, face wipers, & > silverware/plastic knives& forks. Bring a bottle of red wine or other > beverage > for your enjoyment. Optional, I'm sure it won't go to waste He he heeee !! > We've ordered nice weather, however ya never know. A nice warm jacket in > the > car doesn't take up much room. > > We will have a limited number of t-shirts, with a pretty cool design > celebrating the life and memories of our recently passed friend JR Welch, > in > his purple roadster with gold wheels. His car was hard to miss, just like > his > smile and quick wit. > > Hope to see you on Saturday, March 7 @8:30 a.m. > > Eric Gillis > Modesto Datsun Roadsters > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to > meet. > http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing at hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From plhbauman at earthlink.net Tue Mar 3 21:35:37 2009 From: plhbauman at earthlink.net (Paul Bauman) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:35:37 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 1600 won't run In-Reply-To: <639A95F53E814DA79C77128F336B02EC@Daryl> References: <895653.58418.qm@web82804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <639A95F53E814DA79C77128F336B02EC@Daryl> Message-ID: <1236141337.8614.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> Some coils have an internal resistor like the Pertronix Flamethrower. I've been using one of these on my 1600 without an external resistor for going on 9 years now and haven't torched anything yet. I dug around on the Pertronix website and found a troubleshooting section to determine if your coil needs an external resistor. http://www.pertronix.com/support/tips/default.aspx Paul Bauman Westminster, CA 67 1600 On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 19:56 -0800, Daryl Smith wrote: You have me confused. If you are running points or a pertronix unit, you > NEED a ballast resistor. Without it you will prematurely burn out the > points/pertronix. > > If you have an electronic dizzy, then you should upgrade to a 12V coil (your > MSD) so you don't burn out the stock coil without the ballast resistor. > I believe you can run the stock coil and ballast resistor with the EI dizzy, > but you'll get a much better spark, and your car will run better with a 12V > coil. > > Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. > > Cheers > Daryl From drlsmith at dccnet.com Tue Mar 3 23:09:43 2009 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:09:43 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 1600 won't run References: <895653.58418.qm@web82804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <639A95F53E814DA79C77128F336B02EC@Daryl> <1236141337.8614.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <80520136141140799E653DCF830AD920@Daryl> Paul is correct. What it comes down to is the Pertronix requires a minimum amount of resistance in the circuit. Whether that is made up of a coil and ballast resistor, or just the coil doesn't really matter. I don't know what that minimum resistance is tho....... I don't know if the higher resistance coil would work properly with points and NO ballast resistor......?? but logic points to the fact that it might........But I wouldn't risk it..... Daryl From: "Paul Bauman" > Some coils have an internal resistor like the Pertronix Flamethrower. > > I've been using one of these on my 1600 without an external resistor for > going on 9 years now and haven't torched anything yet. > > I dug around on the Pertronix website and found a troubleshooting > section to determine if your coil needs an external resistor. > > http://www.pertronix.com/support/tips/default.aspx > > > > Paul Bauman > Westminster, CA > 67 1600 > > > > On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 19:56 -0800, Daryl Smith wrote: > You have me confused. If you are running points or a pertronix unit, > you >> NEED a ballast resistor. Without it you will prematurely burn out the >> points/pertronix. >> >> If you have an electronic dizzy, then you should upgrade to a 12V coil > (your >> MSD) so you don't burn out the stock coil without the ballast > resistor. >> I believe you can run the stock coil and ballast resistor with the EI > dizzy, >> but you'll get a much better spark, and your car will run better with > a 12V >> coil. >> >> Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. >> >> Cheers >> Daryl From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 4 07:11:25 2009 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 06:11:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] 2009 Central CA/Modesto Polar Bear Run 3/07 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <700976.3460.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Modesto is located in California's Central Valley, about 80 miles east by southeast (as the crow flies, 90+ driving) from San Francisco. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Tue, 3/3/09, Peter Harrison wrote: From: Peter Harrison Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 2009 Central CA/Modesto Polar Bear Run 3/07 To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 8:34 PM Now - if only I knew where Modesto was ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Gillis" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 7:47 PM Subject: [Roadsters] 2009 Central CA/Modesto Polar Bear Run 3/07 > It's that time again, for the Modesto Annual Polar Bear Run (we might even see > snow) about 150 miles or so round trip, usually back in the Modesto area by > 4:00. > > We'll meet on Sat, the 7th of mar. at The Fruit-Yard Resturant. This is just > east of Modesto on hwy 132 (Yosemite ave) at the intersection of hwy 132, > Albers/Geer Rd. We'll show up at 8:30 a.m. We will get organized, and we take > off at 9:00 a.m. (Tops are optional) Please remember to bring a dish and/or > something for the Pot-Luck lunch. Bring your own plates, face wipers, & > silverware/plastic knives& forks. Bring a bottle of red wine or other beverage > for your enjoyment. Optional, I'm sure it won't go to waste He he heeee !! > We've ordered nice weather, however ya never know. A nice warm jacket in the > car doesn't take up much room. > > We will have a limited number of t-shirts, with a pretty cool design > celebrating the life and memories of our recently passed friend JR Welch, in > his purple roadster with gold wheels. His car was hard to miss, just like his > smile and quick wit. > > Hope to see you on Saturday, March 7 @8:30 a.m. > > Eric Gillis > Modesto Datsun Roadsters > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. > http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing at hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From kkoskela at mlode.com Wed Mar 4 07:26:13 2009 From: kkoskela at mlode.com (Kevin Koskela) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 06:26:13 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 1600 for sale Message-ID: <49AE8F85.2090403@mlode.com> Sadly, the time has come to sell my roadster and the all of the spare parts (including a spare engine) that goes with it. The top end was rebuilt about 2 years ago and it only gives driven about 1000 miles per year. I'm asking $6900 which I've been told is less than it should go for, but I'd like to get it sold. You can see the details on it here, or just search for Datsun 1600 on cars.com in the 95383 area code (Northern California). 'http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp;?tracktype=usedcc&searchType=25&pageNumber=0&numResultsPerPage=50&largeNumResultsPerPage=0&sortorder=descending&sortfield=PRICE+descending&certifiedOnly=false&criteria=K-|E-ALL|M-_65_|H-|D-_3930_|N-N|R-150|I-1%2c7|P-PRICE+descending|Q-descending|X-antique|Z-95383&aff=national&paId=288376402&recnum=0&leadExists=true' Kevin From kkoskela at mlode.com Wed Mar 4 07:47:32 2009 From: kkoskela at mlode.com (Kevin Koskela) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 06:47:32 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 1600 Roadster for sale Message-ID: <49AE9484.6050606@mlode.com> Sadly, the time has come to sell my roadster and the all of the spare parts (including a spare engine) that goes with it. The top end was rebuilt about 2 years ago and it only gives driven about 1000 miles per year. I'm asking $6900 which I've been told is less than it should go for, but I'd like to get it sold. You can see the details on it here, or just search for Datsun 1600 on cars.com in the 95383 area code (Northern California). Let's try that cars.com link again: http://tinyurl.com/bj8xk8 Kevin From sumton at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 4 12:12:48 2009 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:12:48 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 1600 won't run References: <895653.58418.qm@web82804.mail.mud.yahoo.com><639A95F53E814DA79C77128F336B02EC@Daryl><1236141337.8614.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> <80520136141140799E653DCF830AD920@Daryl> Message-ID: <001601c99cfd$8e0570f0$49a7a8c0@ranteer.local> just to clarify. the lower resistance coil, without the additional resistor in the circuit, does a lousy job of running an engine. and will definitely smoke a pertronix (according to pertronix). the car in question has standard points and condensor. A Lucas Sport is a higher resistance coil, typically used in British cars. of which there are several in the same garage. thanks to each of you for your response. happy roadstering! From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 4 14:46:29 2009 From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:46:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Nice 1600 in Japan Message-ID: <960619.14584.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Saw this while browsing, you don't see too many low screen 1600 advertised in Japan. Pretty nice unrestored one. http://ichiba.geocities.jp/seiyaa_desk/datsunfairlady.html From turbored at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 15:05:12 2009 From: turbored at gmail.com (turbored) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 14:05:12 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Nice 1600 in Japan In-Reply-To: <960619.14584.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <960619.14584.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Actually it was restored 10 years ago, according to the ad. drew On Mar 4, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Tom PRATHER wrote: > Saw this while browsing, you don't see too many low screen 1600 > advertised in Japan. Pretty nice unrestored one. > > http://ichiba.geocities.jp/seiyaa_desk/datsunfairlady.html > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as turbored at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From goodrich4bk at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 15:05:44 2009 From: goodrich4bk at gmail.com (Jeffrey Goodrich) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 14:05:44 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Nice 1600 in Japan In-Reply-To: <960619.14584.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <960619.14584.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Does anybody here read Japanese? I'm wondering how much this car is selling for. 148,000 Yen? (about $1500) 1,480,000 Yen? (about $15,000). Jeff Goodrich On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Tom PRATHER wrote: > Saw this while browsing, you don't see too many low screen 1600 advertised > in Japan. Pretty nice unrestored one. > > http://ichiba.geocities.jp/seiyaa_desk/datsunfairlady.html > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as goodrich4bk at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From alagams at juno.com Wed Mar 4 15:17:15 2009 From: alagams at juno.com (alagams at juno.com) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:17:15 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] Nice 1600 in Japan Message-ID: <20090304.171715.9273.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com> What with the sticker on the back.............Nice car anyway ____________________________________________________________ Looking for insurance? Click to compare and save big. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTInoMI48aqAcGFExVwvUBhnUkNG OBxeZoqhBjgPcEdFLDXR5XyNBO/ From turbored at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 15:19:12 2009 From: turbored at gmail.com (turbored) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 14:19:12 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Nice 1600 in Japan In-Reply-To: References: <960619.14584.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It's 1,480,000 Yen, about 15k USD. In East Asian Languages (C/K/J), we count in multiples of 10,000 when we get that high. So 10,000 = 1 10,000, 100,000 = 10 10,000s, 1,000,000 = 100 10,000s (h, or d8 man in Japanese). An easy way to get a rough exchange rate with USD is to just drop the last two zeros, or to consider the amount in pennies. Y1,000 = $10 or 1000 cents Y1,480,000 = $14,800 or 1.48M cents. But boy the Yen has gotten strong against the dollar. On Mar 4, 2009, at 2:05 PM, Jeffrey Goodrich wrote: > Does anybody here read Japanese? I'm wondering how much this car is > selling > for. 148,000 Yen? (about $1500) 1,480,000 Yen? (about $15,000). > Jeff Goodrich > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Tom PRATHER > wrote: > >> Saw this while browsing, you don't see too many low screen 1600 >> advertised >> in Japan. Pretty nice unrestored one. >> >> http://ichiba.geocities.jp/seiyaa_desk/datsunfairlady.html >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as goodrich4bk at gmail.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as turbored at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From jklingman at stny.rr.com Wed Mar 4 15:41:57 2009 From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 17:41:57 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: Nice 1600 in Japan Message-ID: So what year is it, '69 side marker, '68 + license plate trim light/ bumper etc.Is it a '69 with a low windshield and flat dash? Great looking car but why call it unrestored, looks very modified? Nice Fairlady touch on the side. John Klingman From fairlady at bigpond.com Wed Mar 4 15:54:36 2009 From: fairlady at bigpond.com (Phill Brook) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:54:36 +1100 Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: Nice 1600 in Japan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2479AC3A-03D0-4C69-8376-A68FCE4C2786@bigpond.com> It is a Japanese car. They had those side markers from the '65 model 1500 onwards. The rear, bumper etc is correct for an early 1600. Chassis number looks like it is SP311-0020 or SP311-0020x. Either way, the car was built around the middle of 1965. The Fair Lady (yes, two words) badges on the side are also standard for JDM. You may not have noticed the standard metric gauges. Phill B On 05/03/2009, at 9:41 AM, John Klingman wrote: > So what year is it, '69 side marker, '68 + license plate trim > light/ bumper etc.Is it a '69 with a low windshield and flat dash? > Great looking car but why call it unrestored, looks very modified? > Nice Fairlady touch on the side. > John Klingman ________________________________________ From tputland at charter.net Wed Mar 4 15:55:05 2009 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 14:55:05 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: Nice 1600 in Japan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090304175505.4BOG4.1938901.root@mp20> I believe that all "non-export" Roadster had that look: teardrops in the front, no rear side markers, flat dash (not 100% certain on the dash) and the small rear reflectors. Someone correct my errors here please. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- John Klingman wrote: ============= So what year is it, '69 side marker, '68 + license plate trim light/ bumper etc.Is it a '69 with a low windshield and flat dash? Great looking car but why call it unrestored, looks very modified? Nice Fairlady touch on the side. John Klingman You are subscribed as tputland at charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com Wed Mar 4 16:16:23 2009 From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 15:16:23 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: Nice 1600 in Japan In-Reply-To: <20090304175505.4BOG4.1938901.root@mp20> Message-ID: But what's the deal with the rear antenna? Japan market only? -Greg SRL31100494 On 3/4/09 2:55 PM, "Tim" wrote: > I believe that all "non-export" Roadster had that look: > > teardrops in the front, no rear side markers, flat dash (not 100% certain on > the dash) and the small rear reflectors. > > Someone correct my errors here please. > > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > > ---- John Klingman wrote: > > ============= > So what year is it, '69 side marker, '68 + license plate trim light/ bumper > etc.Is it a '69 with a low windshield and flat dash? Great looking car but > why call it unrestored, looks very modified? Nice Fairlady touch on the > side. > John Klingman > You are subscribed as tputland at charter.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gsm at gregorysmorrison.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From spl310 at comcast.net Wed Mar 4 18:15:06 2009 From: spl310 at comcast.net (SPL310) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 17:15:06 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Nice 1600 in Japan In-Reply-To: <960619.14584.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Nice looking exterior. What I am curious about is that plumbing near the radiator overflow tank. It appears like it may be tied into the fuel system judging by the tubing near the master cylinders. It also looks like it is connected to the intake manifold like it is capturing fuel vapor? Seems like that tube may have melted too. Tim Corcoran '64 1500's -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Tom PRATHER Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:46 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Nice 1600 in Japan Saw this while browsing, you don't see too many low screen 1600 advertised in Japan. Pretty nice unrestored one. http://ichiba.geocities.jp/seiyaa_desk/datsunfairlady.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From pscowboy9 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 4 19:57:52 2009 From: pscowboy9 at yahoo.com (Steven Burton) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 18:57:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Coil/Ballist resistor Message-ID: <983164.6082.qm@web53609.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I posted about a week ago regarding my 66 1600 not getting a spark. I think I traced that to the wire that goes from the coil to the side of the distributor. I still can't get my car to stay running, but noticed something when it started getting dark tonight that concerned me. I had recently replaced the coil/ballist resistor trying to fix the no spark problem. is the resistor suppose to glow orange while trying to start the car? the original one was completely sealed so I have no idea if its working right or if its putting my car at risk of a electrical fire. thanks for your help Steve 66 - 1600 From daveandlindab at comcast.net Wed Mar 4 20:31:36 2009 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:31:36 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Nice 1600 in Japan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Looks like a power brake servo on the left front, would explain all the brake tubes and vacuum hose Dave brisco -----Original Message----- From: SPL310 [mailto:spl310 at comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:15 PM To: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Nice 1600 in Japan Nice looking exterior. What I am curious about is that plumbing near the radiator overflow tank. It appears like it may be tied into the fuel system judging by the tubing near the master cylinders. It also looks like it is connected to the intake manifold like it is capturing fuel vapor? Seems like that tube may have melted too. Tim Corcoran '64 1500's -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Tom PRATHER Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:46 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Nice 1600 in Japan Saw this while browsing, you don't see too many low screen 1600 advertised in Japan. Pretty nice unrestored one. http://ichiba.geocities.jp/seiyaa_desk/datsunfairlady.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From steve_car at hotmail.com Wed Mar 4 20:41:39 2009 From: steve_car at hotmail.com (steve car) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 03:41:39 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for Exhaust Manifold Bracket Message-ID: Hello, I am looking for the bracket that goes between the block and the mounting bracket on a low windshield car. This is the bracket that a strap would go to the exhuast manifold from. If you have the strap, I need that too - but I can make that piece. Thank you very much, Steve _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 From rabush2000 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 4 21:21:30 2009 From: rabush2000 at hotmail.com (Richard Bush) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:21:30 +0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Nice 1600 in Japan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jeff Its selling for 1.48 million yen, about $15-16,000 On 3/5/09 2:05 AM, "Jeffrey Goodrich" wrote: > Does anybody here read Japanese? I'm wondering how much this car is selling > for. 148,000 Yen? (about $1500) 1,480,000 Yen? (about $15,000). > Jeff Goodrich > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Tom PRATHER wrote: > >> Saw this while browsing, you don't see too many low screen 1600 advertised >> in Japan. Pretty nice unrestored one. >> >> http://ichiba.geocities.jp/seiyaa_desk/datsunfairlady.html >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as goodrich4bk at gmail.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rabush2000 at hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- R A Bush P O Box 500003 Dubai, UAE Home tel: 971 4 344 0631 Cell: 971 50 456 4357 From vlaury at roadrunner.com Wed Mar 4 21:56:15 2009 From: vlaury at roadrunner.com (Victor Laury) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 20:56:15 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Nice 1600 in Japan In-Reply-To: <960619.14584.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8E26A5A3BF2C4F9081AD67657FA28DDB@datsunvicPC> It's been restored, He keeps saying "Restoa no toki" "Back when it was restored" I like the first caption - "spoku whoru kakkoi desu ne" "Spoke Wheels are cool, aren't they?" This is the second datsun I've seen with a remote vac assist brake system. I can't for the life of me figure out how they work. Victor Laury DatsunVic 72 240Z 72 510 70 SRL311 13136 71 PL521 Los Angeles Visit My Photo Site http://public.fotki.com/datsunvic/ -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom PRATHER Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:46 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Nice 1600 in Japan Saw this while browsing, you don't see too many low screen 1600 advertised in Japan. Pretty nice unrestored one. http://ichiba.geocities.jp/seiyaa_desk/datsunfairlady.html ________________________________________ From aultgc at att.net Wed Mar 4 22:05:06 2009 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 23:05:06 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Coil/Ballist resistor References: <983164.6082.qm@web53609.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Steve, I've never checked mine in the dark, but I have an original (i.e., came with the car when it was new) ballast resistor in my '66 1600/U20. The resistor wire is exposed in the ceramic mounting, so I am guessing it's not supposed to glow. As I understand the function of the ballast resistor, it offers little resistance when cold, gradually increasing resistance as current flows through it after the engine is started. This crude, but generally effective approach, allows full battery voltage to the coil for a stronger spark when starting, but drops the voltage after the engine is started to avoid long-term coil damage. Assuming that other aspects of the ignition system are in order (points good and correctly gapped, condenser good), the ballast resistor could be defective. I would make a jumper wire to connect the battery to the positive coil terminal, taking the resistor circuit out of play. If the engine cranks and starts , you know the resistor is bad -- probably producing too much voltage drop to generate a spark, and overheating in the process. ALthough the coil can take battery voltage for a time, shut her down after it starts, and disconnect the jumper. Although it will not go to the list, I have attached a color wiring diagram for the early 1600s. Let me know if it does not make it through the response process. List: Other thoughts? Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Burton" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:57 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Coil/Ballist resistor >I posted about a week ago regarding my 66 1600 not getting a spark. I >think I > traced that to the wire that goes from the coil to the side of the > distributor. I still can't get my car to stay running, but noticed > something > when it started getting dark tonight that concerned me. I had recently > replaced the coil/ballist resistor trying to fix the no spark problem. is > the > resistor suppose to glow orange while trying to start the car? the > original > one was completely sealed so I have no idea if its working right or if its > putting my car at risk of a electrical fire. > > thanks for your help > > Steve > 66 - 1600 > > > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of 1966-67Datsun1600SportsWiringSchematicrev2.pdf] From pat at hornesystemstx.com Thu Mar 5 06:05:54 2009 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 07:05:54 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Nice 1600 in Japan In-Reply-To: <8E26A5A3BF2C4F9081AD67657FA28DDB@datsunvicPC> References: <8E26A5A3BF2C4F9081AD67657FA28DDB@datsunvicPC> Message-ID: <49AFCE32.8060408@hornesystemstx.com> The hydraulic pressure from the master cylinder pushes on a slave cylinder in the booster, the same as linkage would on normal power brake systems. The rest of the system behaves normally. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Victor Laury, On 3/4/2009 10:56 PM: > It's been restored, He keeps saying "Restoa no toki" "Back when it was > restored" > > I like the first caption - "spoku whoru kakkoi desu ne" "Spoke Wheels are > cool, aren't they?" > > This is the second datsun I've seen with a remote vac assist brake system. I > can't for the life of me figure out how they work. > > Victor Laury > DatsunVic > 72 240Z > 72 510 > 70 SRL311 13136 > 71 PL521 > Los Angeles > Visit My Photo Site > http://public.fotki.com/datsunvic/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom PRATHER > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:46 PM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Nice 1600 in Japan > > > Saw this while browsing, you don't see too many low screen 1600 advertised > in Japan. Pretty nice unrestored one. > > http://ichiba.geocities.jp/seiyaa_desk/datsunfairlady.html > ________________________________________ > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1984 - Release Date: 03/04/09 19:17:00 > > -- --- Pat Horne 512.797.7501 Owner, Horne Systems pat at hornesystemstx.com 5026 FM 2001 Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 --We support Habitat for Humanity, a hand UP, not a hand OUT-- From Keith0alan at aol.com Thu Mar 5 06:39:50 2009 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:39:50 EST Subject: [Roadsters] Coil/Ballist resistor Message-ID: The resistor should not glow while you are starting the car. The way it's wired the resistor should be bypassed while the car is being cranked. The resistor is between the battery and coil while the engine is running to lower the primary current. When you are starting the battery voltage drops so they bypass the resister to get the proper voltage to the coil for a good hot spark. My 66 does not have this bypass function. When the battery got weak it would get hard to start. Sometimes it would turn over but not fire. As you released the key it will light off. What is happening is the voltage is too low to make good sparks while the starter is running. As soon as the starter turns off the engine is still turning over and the battery voltage jumps back up creating a good spark. What I did was add a relay to bypass the resistor when starting. It helped a lot. If your resistor is ever glowing there is a wiring problem. keith In a message dated 3/4/2009 6:58:31 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, pscowboy9 at yahoo.com writes: I posted about a week ago regarding my 66 1600 not getting a spark. I think I traced that to the wire that goes from the coil to the side of the distributor. I still can't get my car to stay running, but noticed something when it started getting dark tonight that concerned me. I had recently replaced the coil/ballist resistor trying to fix the no spark problem. is the resistor suppose to glow orange while trying to start the car? the original one was completely sealed so I have no idea if its working right or if its putting my car at risk of a electrical fire. thanks for your help Steve 66 - 1600 You are subscribed as keith0alan at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219957551x1201325337/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From jklingman at stny.rr.com Thu Mar 5 08:30:54 2009 From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:30:54 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: Fw: Nice 1600 in Japan (apologies) Message-ID: My apologies to the list for my post last evening, my Nyquil addled brain had things very confused and I shared them. DUH!! This morning I still have a cold but the brain works, I found the #'s, checked out all the pix and comments. Thanks for the article and the phrase translations. John Klingman Sidney, NY '68 2000 (Spike) From tputland at charter.net Thu Mar 5 08:52:01 2009 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:52:01 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 69 SRL near Chicago Message-ID: <20090305105201.15S8X.2010121.root@mp19> I know nothing of this car, just passing along the link http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/1060086462.html -- Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 5 09:39:59 2009 From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:39:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] 64 sold on EBay Message-ID: <775322.36980.qm@web53506.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Is someone on this list the new, proud owner? Item number: 330310666511 Congratulations! Patti From 9laser3 at bright.net Thu Mar 5 09:43:22 2009 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:43:22 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 69 SRL near Chicago In-Reply-To: <20090305105201.15S8X.2010121.root@mp19> References: <20090305105201.15S8X.2010121.root@mp19> Message-ID: <007501c99db1$8b55fb90$a201f2b0$@net> Interesting history, could be a low mileage car. It definitely SHOULD be rescued and restored. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:52 AM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] 69 SRL near Chicago I know nothing of this car, just passing along the link http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/1060086462.html -- Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning You are subscribed as 9laser3 at bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From speeddemonrs at cox.net Thu Mar 5 10:32:37 2009 From: speeddemonrs at cox.net (speeddemonrs) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:32:37 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Frustrated over brakes Message-ID: Hi all!! So I finally decided that the Volvo brake conversion would be the way to go in my situation. So I have been ordering and gathering all the parts, found a machine shop locally that would be willing to take the rotor down the required 1/8" in diameter and all was looking good. BUT!! When I removed the rotor/hub assembly I am finding it VERY DIFFICULT (read impossible) to separate the hub and the rotor. Is there some trick? I have begun to soak the union with a penetrant (the name of this will not be mentioned to avoid another discussion about what you use). Still this is acting like it is one solid piece. A 5lb. hammer force has been applied to encourage separation, but alas, the union remains. I have removed the obvious 4 bolts. There is a plastic / rubber seal at one end of the hub, that is retaining the rear bearing... does this need to be removed in order to get the two separated? It does not appear that it does, but am running out of ideas on separating these two pieces. Thanks for any input ~ Robb Shannon 1966 SPL311 From speeddemonrs at cox.net Thu Mar 5 10:15:07 2009 From: speeddemonrs at cox.net (speeddemonrs) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:15:07 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Frustrated over brakes In-Reply-To: <007501c99db1$8b55fb90$a201f2b0$@net> References: <20090305105201.15S8X.2010121.root@mp19> <007501c99db1$8b55fb90$a201f2b0$@net> Message-ID: Hi all!! So I finally decided that the Volvo brake conversion would be the way to go in my situation. So I have been ordering and gathering all the parts, found a machine shop locally that would be willing to take the rotor down the required 1/8" in diameter and all was looking good. BUT!! When I removed the rotor/hub assembly I am finding it VERY DIFFICULT (read impossible) to separate the hub and the rotor. Is there some trick? I have begun to soak the union with a penetrant (the name of this will not be mentioned to avoid another discussion about what you use). Still this is acting like it is one solid piece. A 5lb. hammer force has been applied to encourage separation, but alas, the union remains. I have removed the obvious 4 bolts. There is a plastic / rubber seal at one end of the hub, that is retaining the rear bearing... does this need to be removed in order to get the two separated? It does not appear that it does, but am running out of ideas on separating these two pieces. Thanks for any input ~ Robb Shannon 1966 SPL311 From boakes at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 11:31:04 2009 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:31:04 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] 69 SRL near Chicago In-Reply-To: <007501c99db1$8b55fb90$a201f2b0$@net> References: <20090305105201.15S8X.2010121.root@mp19> <007501c99db1$8b55fb90$a201f2b0$@net> Message-ID: <3ad057d60903051031r2cbd5e2h3eea6d65e75f5941@mail.gmail.com> I contacted the guy, since I'm pretty close and would still really like to have "model" to use in my assembly phase of my '68. Sounds like a good candidate for restro, not sure if I could pay that much for a "model", though. If someone else is really interested I might be able to make a roadtrip and check it out sometime. Here's his reply to my inquiry: I've received estimates from afar that have ranged from $500 to $1500. One person who looked and took detailed pictures of the rust problems indicated he would be offering $1000+. I've had several offers for individual parts. One guy offered me $500 for the dash. But I'm selling the whole car and hope to see it on the road again. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote: > Interesting history, could be a low mileage car. It definitely SHOULD be > rescued and restored. > > Paul > Ohio > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:52 AM > To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] 69 SRL near Chicago > > I know nothing of this car, just passing along the link > > http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/1060086462.html > -- > > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > You are subscribed as 9laser3 at bright.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as boakes at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ljordan704 at netscape.net Thu Mar 5 12:26:29 2009 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:26:29 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 69 SRL near Chicago In-Reply-To: <3ad057d60903051031r2cbd5e2h3eea6d65e75f5941@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090305105201.15S8X.2010121.root@mp19><007501c99db1$8b55fb90$a201f2b0$@net> <3ad057d60903051031r2cbd5e2h3eea6d65e75f5941@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CB6BDF6B25CBEE-7F0-4E3@webmail-de09.sysops.aol.com> Just goes to show how fast there are potential buyers for any given Roadster. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Bill Oakes To: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> Cc: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Sent: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:31 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 69 SRL near Chicago I contacted the guy, since I'm pretty close and would still really like to have "model" to use in my assembly phase of my '68. Sounds like a good candidate for restro, not sure if I could pay that much for a "model", though. If someone else is really interested I might be able to make a roadtrip and check it out sometime. Here's his reply to my inquiry: I've received estimates from afar that have ranged from $500 to $1500. One person who looked and took detailed pictures of the rust problems indicated he would be offering $1000+. I've had several offers for individual parts. One guy offered me $500 for the dash. But I'm selling the whole car and hope to see it on the road again. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote: > Interesting history, could be a low mileage car. It definitely SHOULD be > rescued and restored. > > Paul > Ohio > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:52 AM > To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] 69 SRL near Chicago > > I know nothing of this car, just passing along the link > > http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/1060086462.html > -- > > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > You are subscribed as 9laser3 at bright.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as boakes at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From whamba at earthlink.net Thu Mar 5 12:44:42 2009 From: whamba at earthlink.net (Matthew Smith) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 13:44:42 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Frustrated over brakes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Bigger hammer. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of speeddemonrs Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:15 AM To: 'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net' Subject: [Roadsters] Frustrated over brakes Hi all!! So I finally decided that the Volvo brake conversion would be the way to go in my situation. So I have been ordering and gathering all the parts, found a machine shop locally that would be willing to take the rotor down the required 1/8" in diameter and all was looking good. BUT!! When I removed the rotor/hub assembly I am finding it VERY DIFFICULT (read impossible) to separate the hub and the rotor. Is there some trick? I have begun to soak the union with a penetrant (the name of this will not be mentioned to avoid another discussion about what you use). Still this is acting like it is one solid piece. A 5lb. hammer force has been applied to encourage separation, but alas, the union remains. I have removed the obvious 4 bolts. There is a plastic / rubber seal at one end of the hub, that is retaining the rear bearing... does this need to be removed in order to get the two separated? It does not appear that it does, but am running out of ideas on separating these two pieces. Thanks for any input ~ Robb Shannon 1966 SPL311 You are subscribed as whamba at earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From tputland at charter.net Thu Mar 5 12:53:54 2009 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:53:54 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Frustrated over brakes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090305145354.YZLCE.956179.root@mp06> BFH baby. B F H...works (most) every time. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Matthew Smith wrote: ============= Bigger hammer. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of speeddemonrs Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:15 AM To: 'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net' Subject: [Roadsters] Frustrated over brakes Hi all!! So I finally decided that the Volvo brake conversion would be the way to go in my situation. So I have been ordering and gathering all the parts, found a machine shop locally that would be willing to take the rotor down the required 1/8" in diameter and all was looking good. BUT!! When I removed the rotor/hub assembly I am finding it VERY DIFFICULT (read impossible) to separate the hub and the rotor. Is there some trick? I have begun to soak the union with a penetrant (the name of this will not be mentioned to avoid another discussion about what you use). Still this is acting like it is one solid piece. A 5lb. hammer force has been applied to encourage separation, but alas, the union remains. I have removed the obvious 4 bolts. There is a plastic / rubber seal at one end of the hub, that is retaining the rear bearing... does this need to be removed in order to get the two separated? It does not appear that it does, but am running out of ideas on separating these two pieces. Thanks for any input ~ Robb Shannon 1966 SPL311 You are subscribed as whamba at earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as tputland at charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ronnie.day at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 13:09:54 2009 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:09:54 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Frustrated over brakes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2faaebf80903051209j3f3645b1u3c2b4dc6a275b5ca@mail.gmail.com> You may need to use heat in combination with the penetrating oil with applications over several days. Heat (as evenly as possible around the area where the rotor meets the hub), spray (I like PB Blaster), let it sit for a while (30 minutes or an hour) and repeat. Use the BFH evenly around the hub rotor. That can send vibrations through the joint than help break the corrosive bond that's holding the pieces together. You'll probably have better luck finessing this than trying to brute force it. FWIW, Ron > > So I finally decided that the Volvo brake conversion would be the way to go > in my situation. So I have been ordering and gathering all the parts, found > a machine shop locally that would be willing to take the rotor down the > required 1/8" in diameter and all was looking good. BUT!! When I removed the > rotor/hub assembly I am finding it VERY DIFFICULT (read impossible) to > separate the hub and the rotor. Is there some trick? I have begun to soak > the union with a penetrant (the name of this will not be mentioned to avoid > another discussion about what you use). Still this is acting like it is one > solid piece. A 5lb. hammer force has been applied to encourage separation, > but alas, the union remains. I have removed the obvious 4 bolts. There is a > plastic / rubber seal at one end of the hub, that is retaining the rear > bearing... does this need to be removed in order to get the two separated? > It does not appear that it does, but am running out of ideas on separating > these two pieces. > > Thanks for any input ~ > > Robb Shannon > 1966 SPL311 > You are subscribed as whamba at earthlink.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net B http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ronnie.day at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- Ron From mkiisupra at hotmail.com Thu Mar 5 13:10:19 2009 From: mkiisupra at hotmail.com (Eric Gillis) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 20:10:19 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Frustrated over brakes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bigger hammer is correct, a bit of the heat (torch, not lighter) may do the trick or set all the old grease on fire, better to do this outside... The big hammer was affectionately known as the "Schwinn Tool" amongst the biking types back in the day. Dead blow hammers are cool... Eric G _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail. is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 From bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com Thu Mar 5 13:11:53 2009 From: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com (Brian Hollands) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:11:53 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Frustrated over brakes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090305201151.GTAQ6596.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B> Don't hit it with anything. The proper tool is a press. If you don't have one, a machine shop will. Take the whole assembly to the guy who's machining the rotors and let him press the hub out of the rotor. Brian H 69 2000 Tampa, FL ________________________________ From tputland at charter.net Thu Mar 5 13:22:15 2009 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:22:15 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Frustrated over brakes In-Reply-To: <20090305201151.GTAQ6596.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B> Message-ID: <20090305152215.RJER4.957221.root@mp06> Thanks for the correct and level headed method for this process. I would hate to see someone hurt themselves with the BFH in a situation where it just would not work! Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Brian Hollands wrote: ============= Don't hit it with anything. The proper tool is a press. If you don't have one, a machine shop will. Take the whole assembly to the guy who's machining the rotors and let him press the hub out of the rotor. Brian H 69 2000 Tampa, FL ________________________________ You are subscribed as tputland at charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From reblues at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 13:22:46 2009 From: reblues at gmail.com (reblues@gmail) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:22:46 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Frustrated over brakes References: <20090305201151.GTAQ6596.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B> Message-ID: <8D3F7C49D98048B5AEDDF23466FE3A7D@ACER4230> The hub was left in when I had my rotors cut. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Hollands" To: "'datsun-roadsters:autox.team.net'" Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Frustrated over brakes > Don't hit it with anything. > The proper tool is a press. If you don't have one, a machine shop will. > Take the whole assembly to the guy who's machining the rotors and let him > press the hub out of the rotor. > > Brian H > 69 2000 > Tampa, FL > > ________________________________ > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as reblues at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsundoc at aol.com Thu Mar 5 13:21:58 2009 From: datsundoc at aol.com (datsundoc at aol.com) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:21:58 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Frustrated over brakes In-Reply-To: References: <20090305105201.15S8X.2010121.root@mp19><007501c99db1$8b55fb90$a201f2b0$@net> Message-ID: <8CB6BE72B297FD8-5B8-17B8@MBLK-M19.sysops.aol.com> Since you going to a machine shop anyway, take the assemblies with you and have them press the hub out of the disc with a press. 30 second job. This is a better way to do it than beating on things with a hammer. It's designed to be a very slight interference fit to keep the rotor concentric to the hub. Mike -----Original Message----- From: speeddemonrs To: 'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net' Sent: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:15 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Frustrated over brakes Hi all!! So I finally decided that the Volvo brake conversion would be the way to go in my situation. So I have been ordering and gathering all the parts, found a machine shop locally that would be willing to take the rotor down the required 1/8" in diameter and all was looking good. BUT!! When I removed the rotor/hub assembly I am finding it VERY DIFFICULT (read impossible) to separate the hub and the rotor. Is there some trick? I have begun to soak the union with a penetrant (the name of this will not be mentioned to avoid another discussion about what you use). Still this is acting like it is one solid piece. A 5lb. hammer force has been applied to encourage separation, but alas, the union remains. I have removed the obvious 4 bolts. There is a plastic / rubber seal at one end of the hub, that is retaining the rear bearing... does this need to be removed in order to get the two separated? It does not appear that it does, but am running out of ideas on separating these two pieces. Thanks for any input ~ Robb Shannon 1966 SPL311 You are subscribed as datsundoc at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From speeddemonrs at cox.net Thu Mar 5 13:25:22 2009 From: speeddemonrs at cox.net (speeddemonrs) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 13:25:22 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] And the winner is.... In-Reply-To: <8CB6BDF6B25CBEE-7F0-4E3@webmail-de09.sysops.aol.com> References: <20090305105201.15S8X.2010121.root@mp19><007501c99db1$8b55fb90$a201f2b0$@net><3ad057d60903051031r2cbd5e2h3eea6d65e75f5941@mail.gmail.com> <8CB6BDF6B25CBEE-7F0-4E3@webmail-de09.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8FA1E1CB39944DB4BADC1CFBB367F129@RobbsDell> Thanks to all the suggestions and recommendations that have come through since my post. But, the advice I tried first was the advice from Mike Hudson. After quite a few taps around the 1/2 inserted bolts the two started to separate! A few more taps and I had bottomed out on the bolts. After removing them and a few more encouraging taps, the 1st was separated and the second came shortly thereafter. Off to the machine shop!! $25 a piece to do this work sounds high, but this seems to be the only local shop that would even touch them! Robb Shannon Original Message -------------------------------------- Put the 4 bolts back in loosely so there is a 1/2" or so of threads showing under the bolt heads. Now support just the rotor portion on a couple blocks of wood so the hub is between them. Place the blocks right up against the hub with the 4 bolt heads facing upwards. Now use can use a drift or big socket or a piece of steel like a socket extension to tap on each of the bolts heads. You want to pound them enough to just move them a little bit at a time as you go around to each of them. When there starts to be some movement, start soaking with the penetrant. This is the easiest way to do it. Some like to get a crack started along the rotor-hub seam and then use something to pry it further, I found my method easier. Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-speed From Walter.Peterson at cox.net Thu Mar 5 13:38:56 2009 From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter Peterson) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:38:56 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Frustrated over brakes In-Reply-To: <20090305201151.GTAQ6596.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B> References: <20090305201151.GTAQ6596.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B> Message-ID: <000001c99dd2$67bb7040$373250c0$@Peterson@cox.net> OH PLEASE! I've seen hubs get bent or damaged with big hammers. Take the assemblies to your local parts store or other shop that has a hydraulic press. The press will put a nice even & constant pressure on the hub center to ease the pieces apart. It feels so good on release! :) Walter Peterson Goleta Ca, 93117 Street driven race motor 2000 3-Main(R) Solexes,cam etc. 5-Speed & LSD. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brian Hollands Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:12 PM To: 'datsun-roadsters:autox.team.net' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Frustrated over brakes Don't hit it with anything. The proper tool is a press. If you don't have one, a machine shop will. Take the whole assembly to the guy who's machining the rotors and let him press the hub out of the rotor. Brian H 69 2000 Tampa, FL ________________________________ You are subscribed as walter.peterson at cox.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From 9laser3 at bright.net Thu Mar 5 14:19:27 2009 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:19:27 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 69 SRL near Chicago In-Reply-To: <3ad057d60903051031r2cbd5e2h3eea6d65e75f5941@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090305105201.15S8X.2010121.root@mp19> <007501c99db1$8b55fb90$a201f2b0$@net> <3ad057d60903051031r2cbd5e2h3eea6d65e75f5941@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00a101c99dd8$11c59cf0$3550d6d0$@net> I think he should have taken the $1000. Here in Ohio we've bought better cars for a lot less. Paul Ohio From: Bill Oakes [mailto:boakes at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:31 PM To: Paul Cc: Tim; datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 69 SRL near Chicago I contacted the guy, since I'm pretty close and would still really like to have "model" to use in my assembly phase of my '68. Sounds like a good candidate for restro, not sure if I could pay that much for a "model", though. If someone else is really interested I might be able to make a roadtrip and check it out sometime. Here's his reply to my inquiry: I've received estimates from afar that have ranged from $500 to $1500. One person who looked and took detailed pictures of the rust problems indicated he would be offering $1000+. I've had several offers for individual parts. One guy offered me $500 for the dash. But I'm selling the whole car and hope to see it on the road again. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote: Interesting history, could be a low mileage car. It definitely SHOULD be rescued and restored. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:52 AM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] 69 SRL near Chicago I know nothing of this car, just passing along the link http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/1060086462.html -- Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning You are subscribed as 9laser3 at bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as boakes at gmail.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From aultgc at att.net Thu Mar 5 18:35:09 2009 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 19:35:09 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Coil/Ballist resistor References: Message-ID: <8A9B70F82A8B439584401BAA2E3EA95C@gaxp1> Keith, According to the wiring diagram, none of the early cars is wired to bypass the ballast resistor while cranking. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Coil/Ballist resistor > The resistor should not glow while you are starting the car. The way it's > wired the resistor should be bypassed while the car is being cranked. The > resistor is between the battery and coil while the engine is running to > lower the > primary current. When you are starting the battery voltage drops so they > bypass the resister to get the proper voltage to the coil for a good hot > spark. > My 66 does not have this bypass function. When the battery got weak it > would > get hard to start. Sometimes it would turn over but not fire. As you > released > the key it will light off. What is happening is the voltage is too low to > make good sparks while the starter is running. As soon as the starter > turns off > the engine is still turning over and the battery voltage jumps back up > creating a good spark. What I did was add a relay to bypass the resistor > when > starting. It helped a lot. > > If your resistor is ever glowing there is a wiring problem. > > keith > > > In a message dated 3/4/2009 6:58:31 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > pscowboy9 at yahoo.com writes: > > I posted about a week ago regarding my 66 1600 not getting a spark. I > think > I > traced that to the wire that goes from the coil to the side of the > distributor. I still can't get my car to stay running, but noticed > something > when it started getting dark tonight that concerned me. I had recently > replaced the coil/ballist resistor trying to fix the no spark problem. > is > the > resistor suppose to glow orange while trying to start the car? the > original > one was completely sealed so I have no idea if its working right or if > its > putting my car at risk of a electrical fire. > > thanks for your help > > Steve > 66 - 1600 > You are subscribed as keith0alan at aol.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 > easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219957551x1201325337/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID > %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com Thu Mar 5 21:01:18 2009 From: vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com (Vince Strazzabosco) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 20:01:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] 69 SRL near Chicago In-Reply-To: <3ad057d60903051031r2cbd5e2h3eea6d65e75f5941@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <629520.69093.qm@web33502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It doesn't look too bad, especially considering the prices I've seen asked for worse or slightly better cars. If I had the room, and extra bucks, I'd grab it as a companion for my similar '66. vince Naperville, IL --- On Thu, 3/5/09, Bill Oakes wrote: > From: Bill Oakes > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 69 SRL near Chicago > To: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net> > Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 12:31 PM > I contacted the guy, since I'm pretty close and would > still really like to > have "model" to use in my assembly phase of my > '68. Sounds like a good > candidate for restro, not sure if I could pay that much for > a "model", > though. If someone else is really interested I might be > able to make a > roadtrip and check it out sometime. > > Here's his reply to my inquiry: > > > I've received estimates from afar that have ranged from > $500 to $1500. One > person who looked and took detailed pictures of the rust > problems indicated > he would be offering $1000+. I've had several offers > for individual parts. > One guy offered me $500 for the dash. But I'm selling > the whole car and > hope to see it on the road again. > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Paul > <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote: > > > Interesting history, could be a low mileage car. It > definitely SHOULD be > > rescued and restored. > > > > Paul > > Ohio > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Tim > > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:52 AM > > To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net > > Subject: [Roadsters] 69 SRL near Chicago > > > > I know nothing of this car, just passing along the > link > > > > http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/1060086462.html > > -- > > > > > > Tim > > Belleville, WI. > > '70 SPL AND SRL > > Still clueless but always learning > > You are subscribed as 9laser3 at bright.net > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as boakes at gmail.com > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From stebharvey at ameritech.net Thu Mar 5 22:42:13 2009 From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:42:13 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] DATSUN emblems Message-ID: <002f01c99e1e$4dedfe20$e9c9fa60$@net> Group, I'm planning on using decals for the side DATSUN emblems on my restoration. I've worked with three different vinyl guys and none can come up with the correct font. Can anyone in the group provide a font name for the DATSUN side and rear emblems? I know they are tricky because of the layout. Chrome outside and indented black interior. Thanks Steve From shifty at shiftco.com Thu Mar 5 22:46:15 2009 From: shifty at shiftco.com (Leigh Brooks) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 21:46:15 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: Nice 1600 in Japan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Could be from the local Pe-pu Boi-su! On Mar 4, 2009, at 3:16 PM, Gregory S. Morrison wrote: > But what's the deal with the rear antenna? Japan market only? > -Greg > SRL31100494 From pat at hornesystemstx.com Fri Mar 6 05:52:18 2009 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:52:18 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] DATSUN emblems In-Reply-To: <002f01c99e1e$4dedfe20$e9c9fa60$@net> References: <002f01c99e1e$4dedfe20$e9c9fa60$@net> Message-ID: <49B11C82.3090100@hornesystemstx.com> Someone on the list has already come up with vinyl stickers. Was it Stickerman? Check the archives and you will find them. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Steve Harvey, On 3/5/2009 11:42 PM: > Group, > > > > I'm planning on using decals for the side DATSUN emblems on my restoration. > I've worked with three different vinyl guys and none can come up with the > correct font. Can anyone in the group provide a font name for the DATSUN > side and rear emblems? I know they are tricky because of the layout. Chrome > outside and indented black interior. > > > > Thanks > > > > Steve > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1986 - Release Date: 03/05/09 19:32:00 > > -- --- Pat Horne 512.797.7501 Owner, Horne Systems pat at hornesystemstx.com 5026 FM 2001 Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 --We support Habitat for Humanity, a hand UP, not a hand OUT-- From andycost at embarqmail.com Fri Mar 6 06:02:29 2009 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 07:02:29 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Almost ready Message-ID: I blew the motor pretty good at the end of last season. When I pulled it apart there were three broken pistons and a blown headgasket. Two of the rod bearings had a scratch but not destroyed. I ordered new pistons, metal headgasket, and rod bearings. I got Frontier pistons because they are lower compression. Yesterday I worked on a bunch of preparation because the parts had not arrived yet. I swapped the calipers from side to side on front because I had them backwards. The Outlaw 2000 calipers have small pistons and large pistons. The small pistons are supposed to be the leading pistons but I had them upside down. I also placed the porportioning valve in the front circuit instead of the rear. The fronts were doing all the work and would lock up. The rears didn't seem to work at all. I replaced the ignition switch, shifter bushing, output shaft seal, and a bunch of other small things. I also prepped the motor for the new pistons. I honed the bores, cleaned the gasket surfaces, and installed an ARP headstud kit. I now have the pistons and will assmeble the motor today. I think I can have it installed and running by tomorrow. The first race of the season is Sunday. Wish me luck, Andy From orangedawg at hotmail.com Fri Mar 6 06:31:55 2009 From: orangedawg at hotmail.com (orangedawg at hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 05:31:55 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Message-ID: Dear friend: how are you doing recently ? I would like to introduce you a very good company which i knew.They can offer you all kinds of electronical products which you need, such as motorcycles, laptops, mobile phones, digial cameras, TV LCD, xbox, ps3, gps, MP3/4, etc. Please take some time to have a look at it,there must be something you'd like to purchase. Their website: sell-good.com Their Email: sellgood at 188.com Their Msn: sell-good at msn.com Hope you have a good mood in shopping from their company! _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 From fred.davidson at sympatico.ca Fri Mar 6 06:32:25 2009 From: fred.davidson at sympatico.ca (FRED DAVIDSON) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:32:25 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] DATSUN emblems In-Reply-To: <002f01c99e1e$4dedfe20$e9c9fa60$@net> Message-ID: Hi: I believe that Tom Phelan (east coast) and Les Canaday (Classic Datsun) had some made up about 8 to 10 years ago. Tom had them on his car at Watkins Glen roadster meet. Fred ______________________________________________________________ From: "Steve Harvey" To: Subject: [Roadsters] DATSUN emblems Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:42:13 -0600 >Group, > > > >I'm planning on using decals for the side DATSUN emblems on my restoration. >I've worked with three different vinyl guys and none can come up with the >correct font. Can anyone in the group provide a font name for the DATSUN >side and rear emblems? I know they are tricky because of the layout. Chrome >outside and indented black interior. > > > >Thanks > > > >Steve >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as fred.davidson at sympatico.ca > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From 9laser3 at bright.net Fri Mar 6 06:38:20 2009 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 08:38:20 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] DATSUN emblems In-Reply-To: <49B11C82.3090100@hornesystemstx.com> References: <002f01c99e1e$4dedfe20$e9c9fa60$@net> <49B11C82.3090100@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: <000601c99e60$d122af10$73680d30$@net> Pat, Mark Dent, alias Stickerman, sold his machine several years back. Paul -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pat Horne Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 7:52 AM To: Steve Harvey Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] DATSUN emblems Someone on the list has already come up with vinyl stickers. Was it Stickerman? Check the archives and you will find them. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Steve Harvey, On 3/5/2009 11:42 PM: > Group, > > > > I'm planning on using decals for the side DATSUN emblems on my restoration. > I've worked with three different vinyl guys and none can come up with the > correct font. Can anyone in the group provide a font name for the DATSUN > side and rear emblems? I know they are tricky because of the layout. Chrome > outside and indented black interior. > > > > Thanks > > > > Steve > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1986 - Release Date: 03/05/09 19:32:00 > > -- --- Pat Horne 512.797.7501 Owner, Horne Systems pat at hornesystemstx.com 5026 FM 2001 Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 --We support Habitat for Humanity, a hand UP, not a hand OUT-- You are subscribed as 9laser3 at bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From Keith0alan at aol.com Fri Mar 6 06:44:44 2009 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 08:44:44 EST Subject: [Roadsters] Almost ready Message-ID: How would anything get done if it wasn't for the last minute? ; )> BTDT Just a thought on the brakes. I'm sure you know but several sizes of rear cylinders are available. It was common to go with larger ones to increase braking force. keith In a message dated 3/6/2009 5:09:27 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, andycost at embarqmail.com writes: I blew the motor pretty good at the end of last season. When I pulled it apart there were three broken pistons and a blown headgasket. Two of the rod bearings had a scratch but not destroyed. I ordered new pistons, metal headgasket, and rod bearings. I got Frontier pistons because they are lower compression. Yesterday I worked on a bunch of preparation because the parts had not arrived yet. I swapped the calipers from side to side on front because I had them backwards. The Outlaw 2000 calipers have small pistons and large pistons. The small pistons are supposed to be the leading pistons but I had them upside down. I also placed the porportioning valve in the front circuit instead of the rear. The fronts were doing all the work and would lock up. The rears didn't seem to work at all. I replaced the ignition switch, shifter bushing, output shaft seal, and a bunch of other small things. I also prepped the motor for the new pistons. I honed the bores, cleaned the gasket surfaces, and installed an ARP headstud kit. I now have the pistons and will assmeble the motor today. I think I can have it installed and running by tomorrow. The first race of the season is Sunday. Wish me luck, Andy You are subscribed as keith0alan at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219957551x1201325337/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From 9laser3 at bright.net Fri Mar 6 06:46:08 2009 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 08:46:08 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] DATSUN emblems In-Reply-To: References: <002f01c99e1e$4dedfe20$e9c9fa60$@net> Message-ID: <000701c99e61$e84a2780$b8de7680$@net> I guess there are some new folks on the list that might not know about 'Lead Bottom's' journey across the states and the rebuilding of his Datsun. Finished photos at http://home.mchsi.com/~tomph/trip/finished.html For the whole story, start at http://home.mchsi.com/~tomph/trip/2lmenu.html Tom now resides in North Carolina and hopefully can be found at Road Atlanta this spring with SEROC at the Mitty! Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of FRED DAVIDSON Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:32 AM To: stebharvey at ameritech.net Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] DATSUN emblems Hi: I believe that Tom Phelan (east coast) and Les Canaday (Classic Datsun) had some made up about 8 to 10 years ago. Tom had them on his car at Watkins Glen roadster meet. Fred ______________________________________________________________ From: "Steve Harvey" To: Subject: [Roadsters] DATSUN emblems Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:42:13 -0600 >Group, > > > >I'm planning on using decals for the side DATSUN emblems on my restoration. >I've worked with three different vinyl guys and none can come up with the >correct font. Can anyone in the group provide a font name for the DATSUN >side and rear emblems? I know they are tricky because of the layout. Chrome >outside and indented black interior. > > > >Thanks > > > >Steve >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as fred.davidson at sympatico.ca > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as 9laser3 at bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From chalsted at comcast.net Fri Mar 6 06:58:10 2009 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:58:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] SPAM on roadster list In-Reply-To: <999760291.64551236347796834.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1086783290.65361236347890132.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> don't know about anyone else, but I just got spam via the roadster list from some (expletive deleted) named orangedawg. they need to be banned IMMEDIATELY, what's the procedure?B it's orangedawg at hotmail.com Craig From twobeaners at earthlink.net Fri Mar 6 08:32:18 2009 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:32:18 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] DATSUN emblems References: <002f01c99e1e$4dedfe20$e9c9fa60$@net> Message-ID: <00bc01c99e70$bcb4a190$6400a8c0@LAP120> Any reputable sign company that can do CUSTOM graphics, such as Sign-O-Rama, a nationwide franchise, can digitize a tracing or outline of the emblems, if they don't have the actual font. I had new OEM decals made for my 30 year old Chrysler outboard using a rubbing from the old ones that were still on the cover. They came out perfect. M. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Harvey" To: Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:42 PM Subject: [Roadsters] DATSUN emblems > Group, > > > > I'm planning on using decals for the side DATSUN emblems on my restoration. > I've worked with three different vinyl guys and none can come up with the > correct font. Can anyone in the group provide a font name for the DATSUN > side and rear emblems? I know they are tricky because of the layout. Chrome > outside and indented black interior. > > > > Thanks > > > > Steve From printner at att.net Fri Mar 6 09:18:08 2009 From: printner at att.net (Tim Waltz) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:18:08 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] SPAM on roadster list In-Reply-To: <1086783290.65361236347890132.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <999760291.64551236347796834.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1086783290.65361236347890132.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <010801c99e77$34ba2100$9e2e6300$@net> He could just be a victim of a virus. I doubt it's intentional. If he got a virus, he probably has bigger issues to deal with. Luckily for us, the list won't share attachments, so we won't spread it any more. Let's wait and see. Tim -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of chalsted at comcast.net Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 6:58 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] SPAM on roadster list don't know about anyone else, but I just got spam via the roadster list from some (expletive deleted) named orangedawg. they need to be banned IMMEDIATELY, what's the procedure?B it's orangedawg at hotmail.com Craig From tom at datsun2000.com Fri Mar 6 09:48:00 2009 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 08:48:00 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] SPAM on roadster list In-Reply-To: <1086783290.65361236347890132.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: A while back I used another hosting service for datsun2000.com and nowroc.org as well as a couple of other sites. Apparently this hosting service either provided its own modifications to hosted web site scripts, or it was easy to hack. I discovered HTML script additions to the bottom of the script file that had nothing to do with my web site. These changes were http:// links and seemed to link to ladies clothing and accessories. I replaced the HTML file and then started checking. Pretty soon I would find the additions were returned to the web pages. These additions did not show up on the screen when you viewed the page. I suspect they sent e-mails, but I really do not know for sure. If anyone wants to look at one of the HTML page scripts I would be happy to send a copy of a script that I saved so I can understand what this change was doing. Since then I have changed hosting services and have never seen the problem return. But I keep checking once in a while anyway. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of chalsted at comcast.net Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 5:58 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] SPAM on roadster list don't know about anyone else, but I just got spam via the roadster list from some (expletive deleted) named orangedawg. they need to be banned IMMEDIATELY, what's the procedure?B it's orangedawg at hotmail.com Craig You are subscribed as tom at datsun2000.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From orangedawg at hotmail.com Fri Mar 6 09:52:45 2009 From: orangedawg at hotmail.com (orangedawg at hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 08:52:45 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] SPAM on roadster list In-Reply-To: <1086783290.65361236347890132.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <999760291.64551236347796834.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1086783290.65361236347890132.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: I'm orangedawg. I'm am SO sorry for anyone (apparently everyone in my contacts) that got this email. I got this email from someone I know a few days ago and apparently it now got sent to anyone who I know. I have no clue about the website and I didn't mean to send it. This is my first time getting a virus. I have pretty good virus/firewall protection so not sure how it got through. My sincere apologies to everyone. I don't post a lot, but I read all the emails listers post so I can better understand roadster issues. Again, please accept my apologies. If banning is appropriate in these circumstances, I will take my lumps and not complain. Allen Wenatchee, WA 1970 2000 > Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:58:10 +0000 > From: chalsted at comcast.net > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] SPAM on roadster list > > don't know about anyone else, but I just got spam via the roadster list from > some (expletive deleted) named orangedawg. they need to be banned IMMEDIATELY, > what's the procedure?B it's orangedawg at hotmail.com > > Craig > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as orangedawg at hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 From aybreeze at comcast.net Fri Mar 6 10:10:32 2009 From: aybreeze at comcast.net (aybreeze at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Re chicago Message-ID: <441056649.3269021236359432584.JavaMail.root@sz0038a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I am in florida and no space but can see things I would use and may no of one other local 2000 owner .are there any other Floridians interested in a rescue mission ? Keep smiling B B B B Arthur From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri Mar 6 10:11:36 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:11:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] SPAM on roadster list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2100688259.1156801236359496200.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Thanks for letting us know. Don't worry, you're not the first person to have their email address book hijacked by f#%$@g spammers. I have no good Christian thoughts as to what should happen to the turds responsible for this garbage. As for banning (and not you, Allen), I don't believe this list has an active moderator (big surprise, eh?). Best I can suggest is to send an email (a calm, nothing-but-the-facts email) to the list admin. Pete "across the hill in Lake Forest Park" ----- Original Message ----- From: orangedawg at hotmail.com To: "roadster list list" Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 8:52:45 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SPAM on roadster list I'm orangedawg. I'm am SO sorry for anyone (apparently everyone in my contacts) that got this email. I got this email from someone I know a few days ago and apparently it now got sent to anyone who I know. I have no clue about the website and I didn't mean to send it. This is my first time getting a virus. I have pretty good virus/firewall protection so not sure how it got through. My sincere apologies to everyone. I don't post a lot, but I read all the emails listers post so I can better understand roadster issues. Again, please accept my apologies. If banning is appropriate in these circumstances, I will take my lumps and not complain. Allen Wenatchee, WA 1970 2000 > Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:58:10 +0000 > From: chalsted at comcast.net > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] SPAM on roadster list > > don't know about anyone else, but I just got spam via the roadster list from > some (expletive deleted) named orangedawg. they need to be banned IMMEDIATELY, > what's the procedure?B it's orangedawg at hotmail.com > > Craig > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as orangedawg at hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From sandhoff at csus.edu Fri Mar 6 10:21:51 2009 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:21:51 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] OT Re: SPAM on roadster list In-Reply-To: References: <1086783290.65361236347890132.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <49B0EB2F.6004.2AE831@localhost> > My sincere apologies to everyone... If banning is appropriate in > these circumstances, I will take my lumps and not complain. I've never been much of one to blame the victim. Hopefully the rest of the list agrees. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From ljordan704 at netscape.net Fri Mar 6 10:42:23 2009 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:42:23 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT Re: SPAM on roadster list In-Reply-To: <49B0EB2F.6004.2AE831@localhost> References: <1086783290.65361236347890132.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <49B0EB2F.6004.2AE831@localhost> Message-ID: <8CB6C9A0A2C5392-1294-907@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Since this is an occasional issue perhaps we should spend a bit of time sharing how to protect the List and our computers. Usually the answer is "get antivirus software" or some such generic response. Anything more detailed that a computer tech could provide? Perhaps a link to info or something so when this comes up again we can pull the post from the archives. Muchas gracias, Linda -----Original Message----- From: John F Sandhoff To: orangedawg at hotmail.com Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 9:21 am Subject: [Roadsters] OT Re: SPAM on roadster list > My sincere apologies to everyone... If banning is appropriate in > these circumstances, I will take my lumps and not complain. I've never been much of one to blame the victim. Hopefully the rest of the list agrees. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com Fri Mar 6 11:52:46 2009 From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:52:46 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 2 1600s 4 sale Message-ID: I just saw that two 1600s were listed yesterday on the Spokane, WA Craigslist. One short windshield and one tall. One looks rough and the other looks rougher. -Greg SRL31100494 From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri Mar 6 12:04:21 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 19:04:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] OT Re: SPAM on roadster list In-Reply-To: <1847254319.1211001236366122234.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <2044075979.1212121236366261621.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> It's really as simple as changing the oil and checking the air in the tires. STEP 1: Install good (yes, that can be subjective) antivirus -AND- antispam software, and keep them updated. I use Symantec Corporate AntiVirus (I like AVG as a freebie) and SpyWareBlaster. STEP 2: Don't open questionable attachments. Mac (and Linux?) users are usually affected less because they're less of a target, but they're not immune. Neither step will protect you if your ISP is passing that garbage on to its users instead of trapping it. I have Comcast (starting with @Home and ATTBI), and have rarely received anything not legit. Neither step will protect you from the AOL idiots. Sorry, but my experience is that the majority of AOL users are unsophisticated users as that is/was AOL's target market. They will click and/or open anything from anyone (and keep forwarding jokes & viruses....sigh). It's not just AOL, but..... The spammers keep figuring out new ways to get past the protection software, which is why some stuff will still get through. Another reason to stay updated. Da nada. Pete "geeking since DOS 2.1" ----- Original Message ----- From: ljordan704 at netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 9:42:23 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT Re: SPAM on roadster list Since this is an occasional issue perhaps we should spend a bit of time sharing how to protect the List and our computers. Usually the answer is "get antivirus software" or some such generic response. Anything more detailed that a computer tech could provide? Perhaps a link to info or something so when this comes up again we can pull the post from the archives. Muchas gracias, Linda From RSCHLEGEL at OCSD.COM Fri Mar 6 12:29:04 2009 From: RSCHLEGEL at OCSD.COM (Schlegel, Richard) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 11:29:04 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] SPAM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7205D7C8DE0E724A8EBBB88675FBE8CC9F5C5FD3@e07ms1.insideocsd.com> One thing you can do is NEVER EVER click on any links contained in an email. And NEVER EVER click to install anything that says "your computer is infected! Download our antivirus 2009 to remove it now!!!!" All this will do is install a virus onto your computer. Sometimes the only way to remove a virus or maleware is to completely re-install windows. Don't forget to back up (you should be doing this weekly anyway) your documents before you do! You should do this once a year or so anyway to get rid of all the crap windows keeps that slows down your computer. JMHO Take Care, Rich 1968 Datsun 1600 Roadster http://picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich Member of the SoCal Roadster Owner Club http://higenki.com/socalroc/ Video of SoCalROC from the 2008 Japanese Classic Car Show http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-kkdkaRRco ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:42:23 -0500 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT Re: SPAM on roadster list To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Message-ID: <8CB6C9A0A2C5392-1294-907 at mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Since this is an occasional issue perhaps we should spend a bit of time sharing how to protect the List and our computers. Usually the answer is "get antivirus software" or some such generic response. Anything more detailed that a computer tech could provide? Perhaps a link to info or something so when this comes up again we can pull the post from the archives. Muchas gracias, Linda From barterdude at comcast.net Fri Mar 6 13:10:45 2009 From: barterdude at comcast.net (barterdude at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:10:45 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] WyCROC is turning 10 years old (still running with training wheels) Message-ID: Hey Roadster World - WyCROC (Wyoming Colorado Roadster Owners Club) is hitting a milestone this September. Ten Year's in existence and growing. We started with 6 roadsters and two other non-driver owners on September 19th, 1999. We are planning on putting together an anniversary ride this year, but due to Eric and Michelle Frisbee leaving the area but able to come back in August this year, we are shooting for a get-together in August instead of September. If any of you are planning things this year and might like to help us celebrate, leave the weekend of the 15th or 22nd of August open to come join in the festivities. Gary Lasater founding member www.wycroc.org '63 SPL310-300161C '63 SPL310-300289B '64 SPL310-001289 '68 SRL311-11977 '69 SRL311-12536 '70 SPL311-28169 From tom at datsun2000.com Fri Mar 6 13:16:00 2009 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 12:16:00 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] OT Re: SPAM on roadster list In-Reply-To: <8CB6C9A0A2C5392-1294-907@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: And if all this is not enough to worry about.... NEVER, NEVER open an e-card. The jerks (for lack of a better word to use here) who create this garbage have figured out how to plant trojans inside of the card. The anti-virus and other protection software misses these little jewels and someone is watching your every keystroke if one makes its way into your PC. Tomorrow I get to start over on a friends computer because she can't follow the rules. It is about a 6 month thing with her. Now the computer is pressing the left mouse button all by itself when she visits almost any web site and forwards her to an invalid web site. Wunnerful. I wonder what else is happening inside of her PC. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of ljordan704 at netscape.net Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:42 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT Re: SPAM on roadster list Since this is an occasional issue perhaps we should spend a bit of time sharing how to protect the List and our computers. Usually the answer is "get antivirus software" or some such generic response. Anything more detailed that a computer tech could provide? Perhaps a link to info or something so when this comes up again we can pull the post from the archives. Muchas gracias, Linda -----Original Message----- From: John F Sandhoff To: orangedawg at hotmail.com Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 9:21 am Subject: [Roadsters] OT Re: SPAM on roadster list > My sincere apologies to everyone... If banning is appropriate in > these circumstances, I will take my lumps and not complain. I've never been much of one to blame the victim. Hopefully the rest of the list agrees. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as tom at datsun2000.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ntrlclr at earthlink.net Fri Mar 6 14:06:36 2009 From: ntrlclr at earthlink.net (Pamela) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:06:36 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [Roadsters] OT Re: SPAM on roadster list Message-ID: <6983835.1236373596813.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> It's bad when people get cooties...even worse when a computer does Pamela Bauman 67 Datsun (still in pieces) -----Original Message----- >From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" >Sent: Mar 6, 2009 12:16 PM >To: ljordan704 at netscape.net, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT Re: SPAM on roadster list > >And if all this is not enough to worry about.... > >NEVER, NEVER open an e-card. The jerks (for lack of a better word to use >here) who create this garbage have figured out how to plant trojans inside >of the card. The anti-virus and other protection software misses these >little jewels and someone is watching your every keystroke if one makes its >way into your PC. > >Tomorrow I get to start over on a friends computer because she can't follow >the rules. It is about a 6 month thing with her. Now the computer is >pressing the left mouse button all by itself when she visits almost any web >site and forwards her to an invalid web site. Wunnerful. I wonder what >else is happening inside of her PC. > >Tom >69 2000 - Mr. Hyde >Portland >http://www.datsun2000.com >http://www.nowroc.org > > >-----Original Message----- >From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net >[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of >ljordan704 at netscape.net >Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:42 AM >To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT Re: SPAM on roadster list > > > Since this is an occasional issue perhaps we should spend a bit of time >sharing how to protect the List and our computers. Usually the answer is >"get antivirus software" or some such generic response. Anything more >detailed that a computer tech could provide? Perhaps a link to info or >something so when this comes up again we can pull the post from the >archives. >Muchas gracias, >Linda > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: John F Sandhoff >To: orangedawg at hotmail.com >Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Sent: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 9:21 am >Subject: [Roadsters] OT Re: SPAM on roadster list > > > > > > > > > > >> My sincere apologies to everyone... If banning is appropriate in >> these circumstances, I will take my lumps and not complain. > >I've never been much of one to blame the victim. >Hopefully the rest of the list agrees. > >-- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA >You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >You are subscribed as tom at datsun2000.com > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >________________________________________ From ljordan704 at netscape.net Fri Mar 6 14:18:36 2009 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:18:36 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT Re: SPAM on roadster list In-Reply-To: <6983835.1236373596813.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <6983835.1236373596813.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <8CB6CB83ED197A9-734-1A33@webmail-me17.sysops.aol.com> Cooties on people are easier to treat. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Pamela To: tom at datsun2000.com; ljordan704 at netscape.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 1:06 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT Re: SPAM on roadster list It's bad when people get cooties...even worse when a computer does Pamela Bauman 67 Datsun (still in pieces) -----Original Message----- >From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" >Sent: Mar 6, 2009 12:16 PM >To: ljordan704 at netscape.net, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT Re: SPAM on roadster list > >And if all this is not enough to worry about.... > >NEVER, NEVER open an e-card. The jerks (for lack of a better word to use >here) who create this garbage have figured out how to plant trojans inside >of the card. The anti-virus and other protection software misses these >little jewels and someone is watching your every keystroke if one makes its >way into your PC. > >Tomorrow I get to start over on a friends computer because she can't follow >the rules. It is about a 6 month thing with her. Now the computer is >pressing the left mouse button all by itself when she visits almost any web >site and forwards her to an invalid web site. Wunnerful. I wonder what >else is happening inside of her PC. > >Tom >69 2000 - Mr. Hyde >Portland >http://www.datsun2000.com >http://www.nowroc.org > > >-----Original Message----- >From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net >[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of >ljordan704 at netscape.net >Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:42 AM >To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT Re: SPAM on roadster list > > > Since this is an occasional issue perhaps we should spend a bit of time >sharing how to protect the List and our computers. Usually the answer is >"get antivirus software" or some such generic response. Anything more >detailed that a computer tech could provide? Perhaps a link to info or >something so when this comes up again we can pull the post from the >archives. >Muchas gracias, >Linda > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: John F Sandhoff >To: orangedawg at hotmail.com >Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Sent: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 9:21 am >Subject: [Roadsters] OT Re: SPAM on roadster list > > > > > > > > > > >> My sincere apologies to everyone... If banning is appropriate in >> these circumstances, I will take my lumps and not complain. > >I've never been much of one to blame the victim. >Hopefully the rest of the list agrees. > >-- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA >You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >You are subscribed as tom at datsun2000.com > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >________________________________________ From mitch at brooks-planck.org Fri Mar 6 14:28:32 2009 From: mitch at brooks-planck.org (Mitchell Planck) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:28:32 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT Re: SPAM on roadster list In-Reply-To: <6983835.1236373596813.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <6983835.1236373596813.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <7cc4dd590903061328v405af0b7l6a73ada011c4a570@mail.gmail.com> I just cleaned a computer infected by an e-card earlier this week. Start with Avast, free edition, and download their program update for that. Install Avast, schedule a boot time scan but don't reboot. Install the program update then reboot and let it scan. You can register this later if you want to keep it. After that get cwshredder.exe from TrendMicro, smitfraudfix.exe, & Malware-Bytes AntiMalware. (Find these with google) Reboot into safe mode with networking (reboot and hit F8 until the screen pops allowing you to pick this). Run cwshredder, smitfraudfix (select clean), then antimalware (let it update from the Internet). This combination can clean out most anything. You can also use superantispyware.exe to further scan. Check c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts - this file can be read by notepad and should have only one line that doesn't start with a # sign. It should be 127.0.0.1 localhost. If there is anything else delete it. This won't hurt anything. Try going to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com in Internet Explorer and installing the latest updates and patches. If the site won't come up (I've had this happen) it can be caused by a virus. You can also download and run Windows Defender from Microsoft. More dangerous (for your computer): Go into c:\windows\system32, sort by date so most recent is on top. You will also need to go to the Tools->Folder Options->View and select Show hidden & system files, and uncheck hide extensions & hide protected operating system files This will show new files in this directory. Many bad programs will hide here with random filenames that end in .exe or .dll but if you delete or rename the wrong file you can make your computer completely broken so you have to reinstall windows. BE VERY AWARE OF WHAT YOU DO! These are usually cleaned out by the other programs so this is a last resort. Good luck, Mitch Planck '69 1600 '70 1600 From ljordan704 at netscape.net Fri Mar 6 14:50:32 2009 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:50:32 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT Re: SPAM on roadster list In-Reply-To: <7cc4dd590903061328v405af0b7l6a73ada011c4a570@mail.gmail.com> References: <6983835.1236373596813.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <7cc4dd590903061328v405af0b7l6a73ada011c4a570@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CB6CBCB5478903-734-1BC3@webmail-me17.sysops.aol.com> Excellent. I feel safer now, even though I have a Mac. Thanks, Linda -----Original Message----- From: Mitchell Planck To: Pamela Cc: tom at datsun2000.com; ljordan704 at netscape.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 1:28 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT Re: SPAM on roadster list I just cleaned a computer infected by an e-card earlier this week. Start with Avast, free edition, and download their program update for that. Install Avast, schedule a boot time scan but don't reboot. Install the program update then reboot and let it scan. You can register this later if you want to keep it. After that get cwshredder.exe from TrendMicro, smitfraudfix.exe, & Malware-Bytes AntiMalware. (Find these with google) Reboot into safe mode with networking (reboot and hit F8 until the screen pops allowing you to pick this). Run cwshredder, smitfraudfix (select clean), then antimalware (let it update from the Internet). This combination can clean out most anything. You can also use superantispyware.exe to further scan. Check c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts - this file can be read by notepad and should have only one line that doesn't start with a # sign. It should be 127.0.0.1? localhost. If there is anything else delete it. This won't hurt anything. Try going to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com in Internet Explorer and installing the latest updates and patches. If the site won't come up (I've had this happen) it can be caused by a virus. You can also download and run Windows Defender from Microsoft. More dangerous (for your computer): Go into c:\windows\system32, sort by date so most recent is on top. You will also need to go to the Tools->Folder Options->View and select Show hidden & system files, and uncheck hide extensions & hide protected operating system files This will show new files in this directory. Many bad programs will hide here with random filenames that end in .exe or .dll but if you delete or rename the wrong file you can make your computer completely broken so you have to reinstall windows. BE VERY AWARE OF WHAT YOU DO! These are usually cleaned out by the other programs so this is a last resort. Good luck, Mitch Planck '69 1600 '70 1600 From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri Mar 6 14:54:09 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:54:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] OT Re: SPAM on roadster list In-Reply-To: <1779976048.1285711236375594843.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <473391574.1293101236376449888.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Mitch, Great info. I know what you're saying, but I'll bet the majority on the list don't (this would be a nice bet to lose). FWIW, while I found SuperAntiSpyware to be effective, I also found it to be a resource hog and removed it. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitchell Planck" To: "Pamela" Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 1:28:32 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT Re: SPAM on roadster list I just cleaned a computer infected by an e-card earlier this week. Start with Avast, free edition, and download their program update for that. Install Avast, schedule a boot time scan but don't reboot. Install the program update then reboot and let it scan. You can register this later if you want to keep it. After that get cwshredder. exe from TrendMicro, smitfraudfix. exe, & Malware-Bytes AntiMalware. (Find these with google) Reboot into safe mode with networking (reboot and hit F8 until the screen pops allowing you to pick this). Run cwshredder, smitfraudfix (select clean), then antimalware (let it update from the Internet). This combination can clean out most anything. You can also use superantispyware. exe to further scan. Check c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts - this file can be read by notepad and should have only one line that doesn't start with a # sign. It should be 127.0.0.1 localhost. If there is anything else delete it. This won't hurt anything. Try going to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com in Internet Explorer and installing the latest updates and patches. If the site won't come up (I've had this happen) it can be caused by a virus. You can also download and run Windows Defender from Microsoft. More dangerous (for your computer): Go into c:\windows\system32, sort by date so most recent is on top. You will also need to go to the Tools-Folder Options-View and select Show hidden & system files, and uncheck hide extensions & hide protected operating system files This will show new files in this directory. Many bad programs will hide here with random filenames that end in .exe or .dll but if you delete or rename the wrong file you can make your computer completely broken so you have to reinstall windows. BE VERY AWARE OF WHAT YOU DO! These are usually cleaned out by the other programs so this is a last resort. Good luck, Mitch Planck '69 1600 '70 1600 From robbieharrison at comcast.net Fri Mar 6 14:54:59 2009 From: robbieharrison at comcast.net (Robbie Harrison) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:54:59 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Subject: [Roadsters] OT Re: SPAM on roadster list References: <6983835.1236373596813.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <7cc4dd590903061328v405af0b7l6a73ada011c4a570@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49B19BB2.000003.05716@ROBBIE-PC> I try to keep it simple. Starting with a clean install of windows, install the programs you typically use and download all updates. Try to set up so that data files go on a different drive than programs and operating system. Then use Ghost or a similar backup program an make a copy of the O/S and programs. If a virus decides to eat the machine, break out the backup and reload. Robbie '68 2000 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of imstp_animation_monkey_en_020908.gif] From barterdude at comcast.net Fri Mar 6 15:10:45 2009 From: barterdude at comcast.net (barterdude) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:10:45 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Spam INSIDE your Roadster Message-ID: <42DB818FBE8F49DBB47771F1F46F180F@XPLaptop> Spam getting inside your roadster: When you finally get your roadster running to full potential on the road and that interesting black and white car inserts a do not get out of jail card in your files. Slows waaay down on system performance or at least that loose nut behind the wheel. Or the very competent mechanic who "says he knows roadsters" and tries to sync the carbs. Again, used to run fast, but now it is soooo slooooow. And finally, visiting the gas station and not paying attention to those pretty colorful handles and pumping either from the yellow (ethanol) or green (diesel) one. Or worse yet, thinking that black one with the cute crook in it (water) gets you in and out quickly. You have to reboot the fuel system and hope to heck you don't find those viruses again. Grins from up high - Colorful Colorado. Gary Lasater founding member www.wycroc.org '63 SPL310-300161C '63 SPL310-300289B '64 SPL310-001289 '68 SRL311-11977 '69 SRL311-12536 '70 SPL311-28169 From Aybreeze at comcast.net Fri Mar 6 15:11:01 2009 From: Aybreeze at comcast.net (Arthur) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:11:01 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Re Spam & cooties ETC Message-ID: FYI The now make flash drive or mini Sd cards up to 32 gig For a lot of people with small hardrives you can download and take your info with you saves carrying laptop around ! Plus you also can share programs with people you visit Anti vrus lots of Datsun pics etc Arthur From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri Mar 6 16:48:28 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 23:48:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] OT Re: SPAM on roadster list In-Reply-To: <49B19BB2.000003.05716@ROBBIE-PC> Message-ID: <1780830053.1343561236383308158.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Yup. same here...works like a charm. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robbie Harrison" To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 1:54:59 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT Re: SPAM on roadster list I try to keep it simple. Starting with a clean install of windows, install the programs you typically use and download all updates. Try to set up so that data files go on a different drive than programs and operating system. Then use Ghost or a similar backup program an make a copy of the O/S and programs. If a virus decides to eat the machine, break out the backup and reload. Robbie '68 2000 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of imstp_animation_monkey_en_020908.gif] ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From daveandlindab at comcast.net Fri Mar 6 17:12:47 2009 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 19:12:47 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 64 sold on EBay In-Reply-To: <775322.36980.qm@web53506.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0FD1C170B0E144EFB64E07CAD3956680@delled48909442> Not me, I got this 64! Item number: 160312713607 Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: Patti Dwinell [mailto:fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:40 AM To: All list Subject: [Roadsters] 64 sold on EBay Is someone on this list the new, proud owner? Item number: 330310666511 Congratulations! Patti From fairlady66 at gmail.com Fri Mar 6 18:34:45 2009 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:34:45 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 4 Weeks To Go! The 2nd Annual SoCalROC Bar B-Q Message-ID: *4 Weeks To Go! It will be here before you know it. Mark Your Calendar* *The 2nd Annual SoCalROC Bar B-Q* *Southern California Datsun Roadster Owners Club* *April 5th from 12:30 to Sundown* To help kick off the 2009 Roadster season SoCalROC is having their annual Bar B-Q April 5th. Thats three weeks before the 22nd annual Solvang Roadster Classic. Get out your Roadster and blow off the storage dust. Drive it on out to Riverside for an afternoon of fun, good company and great food. There was a good turn out at last years Bar B-Q, lets have more cars lining the street this year and have a great time. *All Datsun Roadsters and their owners are invited* Hamburgers, Hotdogs and some drinks will be provided. Bring a side dish to share and to be on the safe side, bring your favorite drink ** *If you want to bring the entire family and they won't fit in the Roadster, thats ok. Either leave the Roadster home and come in the family care, or... bring the Roadster and the family car.* ** *Date: *April 5th 2009 *Time:* 12:30 to sundown *Location:*The Breyers; 2992 Quebec Drive  Riverside, CA 92504 Be sure to RSVP: *1-888-713-2476 *or RSVP to socalroc at gmail.com subject line: Bar B-Q -- '66 1600 '70 521 '78 280z Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. From edmitche at gmail.com Fri Mar 6 19:48:08 2009 From: edmitche at gmail.com (Ed Mitchell) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 19:48:08 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Who's Barnaby Rudge??? Message-ID: <49b1e069.16048e0a.19c4.1b1f@mx.google.com> Well Friends...tomorrows a big day.... Finally rounded up the Mechanic and the Electrician...got them to commit and combine efforts...and we're ready to turn the key...for the first time in 20 years...Dead Betty Will Live Again....(tho I'm Keepin' the name) Dunno about the road trip to The Solvang Datsun Roadster Classic 2009 tho...in a car I've never driven...or even actually sat in yet...(How Sad is that? )...not even sure she's worthy... But...Wish me Luck... : ) Ed Mitchell Las Cruces, NM 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 http://www.ziaroc.com/ http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG <--Dead Betty : ) From edmitche at gmail.com Sat Mar 7 15:11:03 2009 From: edmitche at gmail.com (Ed Mitchell) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 15:11:03 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] POP goes the weasel Message-ID: <49b2f0f6.08b38c0a.5a13.67be@mx.google.com> Well...No Luck...Dead Betty is out till next weekend...Coil Issues Somehow....I'm guessing... I've got totally competent help...a race car mechanic that has is own Rod Shop...and an Automotive Electrician that does this daily in His Own Shop...I Just open my wallet...and they respond as anyone would as the wallet is opened for all to leaf thru all the dead presidents...So they're good guys... Then I had the electrician read thru all the Coil Chatter on the list here the last week or so...and seems we did everything right...just can't get it to work...So...we're headed towards a Pertronix Electronic Ignition...in an effort to lessen down time whilst on the road in between here and nowhere... But thanks for all the good wishes Hope to see ya on the highways soon Ed Mitchell Las Cruces, NM 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 http://www.ziaroc.com/ http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG <--Dead Betty : ) From andycost at embarqmail.com Sat Mar 7 18:19:42 2009 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 19:19:42 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Put together Message-ID: It runs, drives, and stops. My marathon three day rebuild seems to be successful. It started on the first try after I hooked up a non-DED battery. Actually, it was just "Mostly Dead". There was only one small problem. One of the supercharger idler pulleys was not turning. We'll see if it holds up tomorrow. It is scary taking out a motor with new pistons, rings, and bearings with no real break in time. There isn't much I can do. It isn't street legal so idling in the driveway and a short trip around the block is all the break in it will get. Later, Andy From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com Sat Mar 7 19:27:27 2009 From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 18:27:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Radio blues Message-ID: <978645.84492.qm@web53504.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi, everyone! Now that I'm back on the road, I've found I miss listening to tunes.? Does anyone on this list repair radios?? Just thought I'd ask, before I buy a bunch of new stuff. Thank you! Patti -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Patti ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as davesmbox at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From larrybraddock at ca.rr.com Sun Mar 8 14:29:36 2009 From: larrybraddock at ca.rr.com (Larry Braddock) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:29:36 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] vacuum advance hose Message-ID: <03C138F569CC43EC93D367D0806729EA@owner4d7e0adce> I'm working on getting a 66 roadster going. It has no vac. advance hose on it. Can a rubber hose be used or should it be copper? Also what I.D.? Thanks, Larry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From plhbauman at earthlink.net Sun Mar 8 16:37:53 2009 From: plhbauman at earthlink.net (Paul Bauman) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 16:37:53 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] vacuum advance hose In-Reply-To: <03C138F569CC43EC93D367D0806729EA@owner4d7e0adce> References: <03C138F569CC43EC93D367D0806729EA@owner4d7e0adce> Message-ID: <1236555473.12240.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Larry: Because the vacuum line needs to cross over the motor to get to the carbs, I attached a short piece of rubber hose to the dizzy, then ran some small diameter copper tubing - I think it was the stuff they use for gas heater pilot lights - along the same path the brake lines take along the firewall. Then I attached another piece of rubber tubing from that to the carb. It also keeps the line out of the way if you have to pull the engine. Don't ask me how I know this. I don't think the really small diameter hose comes in too many sizes. You could get a couple different ones since you only need a foot or two on either side with this method. Paul Bauman Westminster, CA 67 1600 On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 14:29 -0700, Larry Braddock wrote: > I'm working on getting a 66 roadster going. It has no vac. advance > hose on it. Can a rubber hose be used or should it be copper? Also > what I.D.? > > Thanks, > Larry From vze2fhba at verizon.net Sun Mar 8 16:41:16 2009 From: vze2fhba at verizon.net (Charles Breault) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 19:41:16 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] vacuum advance hose In-Reply-To: <1236555473.12240.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <03C138F569CC43EC93D367D0806729EA@owner4d7e0adce> <1236555473.12240.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Paul has a great idea. Too easy to melt the rubber hose if you run it all the way. Charlie B. 66 411 69 2000 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Bauman Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 7:38 PM To: Autox Subject: Re: [Roadsters] vacuum advance hose Larry: Because the vacuum line needs to cross over the motor to get to the carbs, I attached a short piece of rubber hose to the dizzy, then ran some small diameter copper tubing - I think it was the stuff they use for gas heater pilot lights - along the same path the brake lines take along the firewall. Then I attached another piece of rubber tubing from that to the carb. It also keeps the line out of the way if you have to pull the engine. Don't ask me how I know this. I don't think the really small diameter hose comes in too many sizes. You could get a couple different ones since you only need a foot or two on either side with this method. Paul Bauman Westminster, CA 67 1600 On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 14:29 -0700, Larry Braddock wrote: > I'm working on getting a 66 roadster going. It has no vac. advance > hose on it. Can a rubber hose be used or should it be copper? Also > what I.D.? > > Thanks, > Larry From eddietude at socal.rr.com Sun Mar 8 20:43:46 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 20:43:46 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] K&N Air Filter Message-ID: <49B49072.2090603@socal.rr.com> Hi all, Does anyone know if K&N has an air filter that fits the 1600 Roadster? If so, what's the part #? Thanks... Eddie From slowboy at cox.net Sun Mar 8 21:56:13 2009 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:56:13 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] K&N Air Filter In-Reply-To: <49B49072.2090603@socal.rr.com> References: <49B49072.2090603@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <3A7C8C40AC8944269A8A7D85EAB571C1@m7170n> >From the 311's http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.311sPartsInterchange K '& N filter that fits most Ford and Dodge light trucks with the 2bbl V-8. K '& N part number is E-1290. It is a round 11.0" by 2.75" high filter. Fits nicely in the 1600 air filter housing.(1600-All) -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eddie Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 8:44 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] K&N Air Filter Hi all, Does anyone know if K&N has an air filter that fits the 1600 Roadster? If so, what's the part #? Thanks... Eddie ________________________________________ From VulForge at aol.com Mon Mar 9 09:13:00 2009 From: VulForge at aol.com (VulForge at aol.com) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 12:13:00 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Radio Message-ID: Patti; an older shaft-mount radio will fit without cutting the dash. These can be had from the swap-and-shop for around $20. I use a 4-channel with cassette and a cassette adaptor to interface with my MP3 player. Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1048 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com **************Need a job? Find employment help in your area. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000005) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From jeffzster at yahoo.com Mon Mar 9 13:34:03 2009 From: jeffzster at yahoo.com (Jeff Torres) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] New Solvang 2009 Info Message-ID: <134740.93449.qm@web110415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hello Folks, ? Just an update on our Solvang Show this year. To date we approx. 20 people registered in some fashion. Either with a car, or showing up for the show and dinner. I have elected to post everyone who will be attending and contributing in some way to the show. ? On that note, we are about 15 registrations behind last years registered participant list as of this date last year. I would like to remind everyone that this show is fastly approaching, and as the organizer, it is important to have accurate head counts and registrations for both food and shirt orders. ? Soooooo..as a friendly reminder, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, if you are planning on going, make sure to get your registrations in as far in advance of the April 11th deadline as possible.?The show is only as good as the participation and I am looking forward to great participation once again from the Roadster faithful!! ? Keep on..Keepin' On! ? Jeff Torres '66 1600 Lemoore, CA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeffzster at yahoo.com Mon Mar 9 13:55:18 2009 From: jeffzster at yahoo.com (Jeff Torres) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:55:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Really Cool Poster site Message-ID: <444227.83402.qm@web110408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hey All, ? I just wanted to spread the word about a web site that I ran into and ordered from. It is called "Super Stylings".?For around $60, these guys will take digital photos you upload and make a fantastic 20X30 poster of your Roadster suitable for framing and the whole nine yards. I did it and could not believe how good?it came out. Soooooo..if you really love your car and want to do something special to be able to brag about it just a little more....give these guys a look!!!? ? http://www.superstylings.com/index.html ? Disclaimer: I am?in no way affiliated with these?people. Just a Roadster guy looking out for everyone! ? Jeff T. '66 1600 Lemoore, CA? ? ? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eddietude at socal.rr.com Mon Mar 9 16:21:34 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:21:34 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Cables.... Message-ID: <49B5A47E.6050009@socal.rr.com> Hi all, Anyone know where I can get a pair of vent cables made? I need the ones that have the "barrel" on the end of them. The others are already made, these are the two that go to the vents under the dash and have the special end to them... Thanks. Eddie From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 9 21:22:14 2009 From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 21:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Radio Blues Message-ID: <218853.57521.qm@web53501.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi, everyone! I just want to express my appreciation to all of you who responded to my radio blues ... THANKS!!! I've decided to send my old, original, positive ground, AM to Keith Williams' Dad for repair and probably get one of these to go with it......check it out!..... http://www.rediscoveradio.com The only disappointing thing I can see is that it doesn't have a USB input. But, I can live with that. Thank you again, guys!! Patti -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boakes at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 05:20:39 2009 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 07:20:39 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Cables.... In-Reply-To: <49B5A47E.6050009@socal.rr.com> References: <49B5A47E.6050009@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <3ad057d60903100520l74721de1y95f6d41466785b8a@mail.gmail.com> If you don't care about it being non-original, I found some lawnmower control cables at the local hardware store worked perfectly. Can't see them behind the dash, and they move everything fine. Plus, they're about $15 each. -Bill On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Eddie wrote: > Hi all, > > Anyone know where I can get a pair of vent cables made? > > I need the ones that have the "barrel" on the end of them. The others are > already made, these are the two that go to the vents under the dash and have > the special end to them... > > Thanks. > > Eddie > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as boakes at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davesmbox at aol.com Tue Mar 10 05:33:03 2009 From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:33:03 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Cables.... In-Reply-To: <49B5A47E.6050009@socal.rr.com> References: <49B5A47E.6050009@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <8CB6F937DEF0CCE-10D8-2281@mblk-d17.sysops.aol.com> I reduilt my choke and hand throttle using cables from a bicycle shop. -----Original Message----- From: Eddie To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 7:21 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Cables.... Hi all,? ? Anyone know where I can get a pair of vent cables made?? ? I need the ones that have the "barrel" on the end of them. The others are already made, these are the two that go to the vents under the dash and have the special end to them...? ? Thanks.? ? Eddie? ________________________________________? Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? ? You are subscribed as davesmbox at aol.com? ? Datsun-roadsters mailing list? ? http://www.team.net/archive? ? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From eddietude at socal.rr.com Tue Mar 10 09:38:05 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:38:05 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Cables.... In-Reply-To: <3ad057d60903100520l74721de1y95f6d41466785b8a@mail.gmail.com> References: <49B5A47E.6050009@socal.rr.com> <3ad057d60903100520l74721de1y95f6d41466785b8a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49B6976D.7010304@socal.rr.com> I never thought to check a lawnmower supply store. Great idea! Thanks. Eddie Bill Oakes wrote: > If you don't care about it being non-original, I found some lawnmower > control cables at the local hardware store worked perfectly. Can't see > them behind the dash, and they move everything fine. Plus, they're > about $15 each. > > -Bill > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Eddie > wrote: > > Hi all, > > Anyone know where I can get a pair of vent cables made? > > I need the ones that have the "barrel" on the end of them. The > others are already made, these are the two that go to the vents > under the dash and have the special end to them... > > Thanks. > > Eddie > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as boakes at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > From VulForge at aol.com Tue Mar 10 09:52:30 2009 From: VulForge at aol.com (VulForge at aol.com) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:52:30 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Cables Message-ID: A good motorcycle shop can make up cables to any length or configuration. I had my throttle, choke and heater cables made by a local shop. I know bicycle shops can do this as well, but the cables may be too light. The shop may need the original sheath, and will certainly need specialty parts like the choke cable dash end. Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1048 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com **************Need a job? Find employment help in your area. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000005) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boakes at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 15:02:40 2009 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:02:40 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Barely related content, but funny Message-ID: <3ad057d60903101502hc8c2229jf37d5cb06e24cbb4@mail.gmail.com> Kind of slow out there, and a very gray day in Chicago, so time for some humor: Roadster related content - the funniest Nissan (Datsun) commercial ever http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/2defe22fe0/andy-richter-car-commercial -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Finally rounded up the Mechanic and the Electrician...got them to commit and combine efforts...and we're ready to turn the key...for the first time in 20 years...Dead Betty Will Live Again....(tho I'm Keepin' the name) Dunno about the road trip to The Solvang Datsun Roadster Classic 2009 tho...in a car I've never driven...or even actually sat in yet...(How Sad is that? )...not even sure she's worthy... But...Wish me Luck... : ) Ed Mitchell Las Cruces, NM 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 http://www.ziaroc.com/ http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG <--Dead Betty : ) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From alvingogi at hotmail.com Fri Mar 13 14:38:38 2009 From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:38:38 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] 2009 Monterey Historics--Parade Lap!!! Message-ID: Sunday, May 17 We are getting a VIP corral at Monterey Historics in Laguna Seca this year...this is a first for Nissans/Datsuns at this event! !!EXCITING NEWS!! Registration includes a parade lap around the famous Laguna Seca race course, yes including the"corkscrew". This is always an incredible event to attend, with or without your roadster, so don't miss out! 2008 photos, with John Morton: http://rides.webshots.com/album/565513587lKYKZL Details here: http://www.zonc.org/montereyhistorics.jpg _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 9laser3 at bright.net Fri Mar 13 15:02:54 2009 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:02:54 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Tim's Datsun in the news! Message-ID: <000001c9a427$7714ee30$653eca90$@net> Just got my new issue of Classic Motorsports with a BMW on the cover. But the best part is on page 12 under "Drive Time". A nice photo of Tim's roadster up in Madison Wisconsin. 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The lake is still half frozen over, I still have snow in my yard and the temp was still in the 30s... but it was a great drive. Tim From edmitche at gmail.com Sat Mar 14 12:59:15 2009 From: edmitche at gmail.com (Ed Mitchell) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:59:15 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] What the....? Message-ID: <49bc0c95.16538c0a.632e.fffff401@mx.google.com> Might anyone know what these are? And where they go? I got them Chromed...(Dunno why...but Obviously I have Issues)... But any clue? Thanks for any and all help\recommendations Ed Mitchell Las Cruces, NM 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 http://www.ziaroc.com/ http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG <--Dead Betty : ) [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of What's the dealio.JPG] From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sat Mar 14 13:07:02 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:07:02 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] What the....? In-Reply-To: <49bc0c95.16538c0a.632e.fffff401@mx.google.com> References: <49bc0c95.16538c0a.632e.fffff401@mx.google.com> Message-ID: What "what" are? You cannot send attachments to mail lists. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ed Mitchell Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:59 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] What the....? Might anyone know what these are? And where they go? I got them Chromed...(Dunno why...but Obviously I have Issues)... But any clue? Thanks for any and all help\recommendations Ed Mitchell Las Cruces, NM 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 http://www.ziaroc.com/ http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG <--Dead Betty : ) [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of What's the dealio.JPG] ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From edmitche at gmail.com Sat Mar 14 13:15:23 2009 From: edmitche at gmail.com (Ed Mitchell) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:15:23 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] What the...? part duex Message-ID: <49bc105c.2a528c0a.55e5.363b@mx.google.com> KK...Put the pic on my Webshots page...1st Slide...shot # 1 Sorry...didn't know we could attach pic's... I was wondering what the Att*.txt was :/ Might anyone know what these are? And where they go? I got them Chromed...(I think they were originally) (Dunno...but Obviously I have Issues)... But any clue? Thanks for any and all help\recommendations Ed Mitchell Las Cruces, NM 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 http://www.ziaroc.com/ http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG <--Dead Betty : ) http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG From slowboy at cox.net Sat Mar 14 13:17:10 2009 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:17:10 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] What the....? In-Reply-To: <49bc0c95.16538c0a.632e.fffff401@mx.google.com> References: <49bc0c95.16538c0a.632e.fffff401@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <1BFC9FCFADFF4293B331C9190DC598CF@m7170n> Windshield chrome trim, goes on the bottom left and right. I'm psychic Pete! His website, first picture. ----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ed Mitchell Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:59 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] What the....? Might anyone know what these are? And where they go? I got them Chromed...(Dunno why...but Obviously I have Issues)... But any clue? Thanks for any and all help\recommendations Ed Mitchell Las Cruces, NM 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 http://www.ziaroc.com/ http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG <--Dead Betty : ) [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of What's the dealio.JPG] ________________________________________ From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com Sat Mar 14 13:30:25 2009 From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:30:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] What the...? part duex In-Reply-To: <49bc105c.2a528c0a.55e5.363b@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <934174.60566.qm@web63704.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Those are end pieces that go on the bottom windshield weatherstripping on short windshield cars. Attaches at the end of the weatherstrip and overlaps the bottom om the windshield frame via one small screw (I'd use a stainless steel screw). Makes for a nice finishing piece Mike SC '66 1600 (Jessie) --- On Sat, 3/14/09, Ed Mitchell wrote: > From: Ed Mitchell > Subject: [Roadsters] What the...? part duex > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Saturday, March 14, 2009, 4:15 PM > KK...Put the pic on my Webshots page...1st Slide...shot # 1 > > Sorry...didn't know we could attach pic's... > > I was wondering what the Att*.txt was :/ > > Might anyone know what these are? And where they go? I > got them > Chromed...(I think they were originally) (Dunno...but > Obviously I have > Issues)... > > But any clue? > > Thanks for any and all help\recommendations > > > Ed Mitchell > Las Cruces, NM > 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 > http://www.ziaroc.com/ > http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG > <--Dead Betty : ) > > > http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun_roadster at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 12 13:15:51 2009 From: datsun_roadster at sbcglobal.net (datsun_roadster at sbcglobal.net) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:15:51 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster parts Message-ID: <003301c9a34f$5cda8b20$4101a8c0@wolfganga9a2ab> I have a list of parts 1600 grill new chrome.......... $ 300.00 2000 grill new old stock....... $ 500.00 2000 piston set of 4 .............. $350.00 Front bumper new chro.me.......$400.00 Rear bumper new crome..........$500.00 Licence light (in bumper) New ....$75.00 2000 cylinder heads, from ..........$250.00 1600 cylinder heads, from ..........$100.00 Solex cam New .........................$400.00 Solex Carb Kit New ...................$3500.00 Cibie head lights (2) ...................$ 120.00 Hella head lights (2) ....................$130.00 1600 block used .........................$100.00 2000 Block used......................... $300.00 2000 crank used...........................$300.00 1600 crank used...........................$75.00 I have a lot of other used mechanical parts also, call if your in need of something. 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URL: From cookefam314 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 15 13:22:57 2009 From: cookefam314 at yahoo.com (Dave Cooke) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 13:22:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 68 Roadster on ebay Message-ID: <277836.9391.qm@web110607.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I saw this on eBay today, item # 330313560474. Anyone familiar with this vehicle or this ebay seller? It's in Missouri & I have someone that can look at it tomorrow for me. But, I wanted to make sure its worth his time to drive a couple hours up there. It looks like its at a dealer called Lakeway Motors in Kaiser, MO. I've been looking quietly for a clean 1600 driver. I've had my 69 1600 in my garage for the last 19 years, so I was thinking it would be less expensive & a lot easier to buy a nice driver, rather than attempt to revive mine. _________________ Dave Cooke Lake In The Hills, IL 1969 1600 MWDROC From charlieandannelee at gmail.com Sun Mar 15 16:15:48 2009 From: charlieandannelee at gmail.com (Charlie and Annelee Ellis) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:15:48 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Test only Message-ID: Charlie Ellis From eddietude at socal.rr.com Sun Mar 15 17:31:16 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:31:16 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel nut size question Message-ID: <49BD9DD4.10504@socal.rr.com> Here's a question: What size are the threads on the shaft of the collapsable steering column (late model) where the nut goes and holds the steering wheel on? What is the size for the early models? (The one's with the "death spear") Thanks. Eddie From jklingman at stny.rr.com Sun Mar 15 17:37:23 2009 From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:37:23 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] It's all in the name Message-ID: <41481479FE004A01924EBB1BA0F9163B@yourhryuc9xa71> For a number of years Zippo has been the sponsor of the NASCAR race at Watkins Glen, this year a local cheese company is the sponsor, Heluva Good Cheese Company, Sodus NY. Now, you can see a great name shaping up ...Heluva Good , right. The race name is "Heluva Good! Sour Cream Dips at the Glen." Has anyone heard of another race with a name as absurd? Please share it. We all need a laugh. Gloria and John Klingman Sidney, NY '68 2000 "Spike" From j.f at cox.net Sun Mar 15 19:30:47 2009 From: j.f at cox.net (John Friederich) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:30:47 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Passed smog again!! Message-ID: <4DC0CC40-62E6-4800-8909-F313EE98E3EF@cox.net> It is always a pain in the a** thing to get the '69 2000 Solex 'B' cam to pass smog - all smog equipment was removed long ago. Had to make only 4 trips to the smog station this year, so it is getting easier . The real trick was to retard timing all the way to 0 - my adjustment would only allow me to go to about 5 degrees, so I removed the bolt completely and got the lowest hydrocarbon and CO readings at around 0 degrees. At this point it would barely achieve 2500 rpm, but passed, and at idle speed it passed easily. Of course, the pilot screws had to be leaned out some as well, but overdoing it resulted in CO skyrocketing. Spent the afternoon getting it to run right again - it does like things on the 'rich' side with timing at almost 20 degrees (Boone distributor). Solvang, here we come! John F LV, NV From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sun Mar 15 19:39:37 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:39:37 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Passed smog again!! In-Reply-To: <4DC0CC40-62E6-4800-8909-F313EE98E3EF@cox.net> References: <4DC0CC40-62E6-4800-8909-F313EE98E3EF@cox.net> Message-ID: Smog testing required on that old a vehicle in Nevada? Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Friederich Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:31 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Passed smog again!! It is always a pain in the a** thing to get the '69 2000 Solex 'B' cam to pass smog - all smog equipment was removed long ago. Had to make only 4 trips to the smog station this year, so it is getting easier . The real trick was to retard timing all the way to 0 - my adjustment would only allow me to go to about 5 degrees, so I removed the bolt completely and got the lowest hydrocarbon and CO readings at around 0 degrees. At this point it would barely achieve 2500 rpm, but passed, and at idle speed it passed easily. Of course, the pilot screws had to be leaned out some as well, but overdoing it resulted in CO skyrocketing. Spent the afternoon getting it to run right again - it does like things on the 'rich' side with timing at almost 20 degrees (Boone distributor). Solvang, here we come! John F LV, NV Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From slowboy at cox.net Sun Mar 15 19:47:38 2009 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:47:38 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Passed smog again!! In-Reply-To: References: <4DC0CC40-62E6-4800-8909-F313EE98E3EF@cox.net> Message-ID: <19766618C2BA495AB887E30D00B11C85@m7170n> 1967 and newer here in lovely Maricopa County, Arizona. -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed smog again!! Smog testing required on that old a vehicle in Nevada? Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Friederich Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:31 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Passed smog again!! It is always a pain in the a** thing to get the '69 2000 Solex 'B' cam to pass smog - all smog equipment was removed long ago. Had to make only 4 trips to the smog station this year, so it is getting easier . The real trick was to retard timing all the way to 0 - my adjustment would only allow me to go to about 5 degrees, so I removed the bolt completely and got the lowest hydrocarbon and CO readings at around 0 degrees. At this point it would barely achieve 2500 rpm, but passed, and at idle speed it passed easily. Of course, the pilot screws had to be leaned out some as well, but overdoing it resulted in CO skyrocketing. Spent the afternoon getting it to run right again - it does like things on the 'rich' side with timing at almost 20 degrees (Boone distributor). Solvang, here we come! John F LV, NV Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sun Mar 15 20:20:38 2009 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:20:38 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Passed smog again!! In-Reply-To: <19766618C2BA495AB887E30D00B11C85@m7170n> References: <4DC0CC40-62E6-4800-8909-F313EE98E3EF@cox.net> <19766618C2BA495AB887E30D00B11C85@m7170n> Message-ID: <8CB73FD503FD73A-1134-274@Webmail-mg16.sim.aol.com> Isn't it pass or spend 50 bucks? Linda -----Original Message----- From: SlowBoy To: 'Datsun Roadster List' Sent: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 7:47 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed smog again!! 1967 and newer here in lovely Maricopa County, Arizona. -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed smog again!! Smog testing required on that old a vehicle in Nevada? Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Friederich Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:31 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Passed smog again!! It is always a pain in the a** thing to get the '69 2000 Solex 'B' cam to pass smog - all smog equipment was removed long ago. Had to make only 4 trips to the smog station this year, so it is getting easier . The real trick was to retard timing all the way to 0 - my adjustment would only allow me to go to about 5 degrees, so I removed the bolt completely and got the lowest hydrocarbon and CO readings at around 0 degrees. At this point it would barely achieve 2500 rpm, but passed, and at idle speed it passed easily. Of course, the pilot screws had to be leaned out some as well, but overdoing it resulted in CO skyrocketing. Spent the afternoon getting it to run right again - it does like things on the 'rich' side with timing at almost 20 degrees (Boone distributor). Solvang, here we come! John F LV, NV Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From Keith0alan at aol.com Mon Mar 16 07:43:23 2009 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:43:23 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Passed smog again!! Message-ID: Here in Nevada only two counties require smog testing. The two with 90% of the population. All vehicles 68 and newer. Actually more restrictive than California with the rolling 25 years. keith In a message dated 3/15/2009 7:48:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, slowboy at cox .net writes: 1967 and newer here in lovely Maricopa County, Arizona. -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed smog again!! Smog testing required on that old a vehicle in Nevada? Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Friederich Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:31 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Passed smog again!! It is always a pain in the a** thing to get the '69 2000 Solex 'B' cam to pass smog - all smog equipment was removed long ago. Had to make only 4 trips to the smog station this year, so it is getting easier . The real trick was to retard timing all the way to 0 - my adjustment would only allow me to go to about 5 degrees, so I removed the bolt completely and got the lowest hydrocarbon and CO readings at around 0 degrees. At this point it would barely achieve 2500 rpm, but passed, and at idle speed it passed easily. Of course, the pilot screws had to be leaned out some as well, but overdoing it resulted in CO skyrocketing. Spent the afternoon getting it to run right again - it does like things on the 'rich' side with timing at almost 20 degrees (Boone distributor). Solvang, here we come! John F LV, NV Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as keith0alan at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! 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Thanks... > > Eddie From turbored at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 09:19:04 2009 From: turbored at gmail.com (turbored) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 09:19:04 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Passed smog again!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <68ACB70D-FEC5-4F7C-80D5-0781538E2730@gmail.com> actually CA no longer has a rolling 25 years exemption. It's now pre 75. They're trying to get rid of that as well. From the DMV website: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/smogfaq.htm#BM2535 Does my vehicle qualify for a smog exemption? Smog inspections are required unless your vehicle is: Hybrid 1975 year model or older Diesel powered Electric Natural gas powered and has a Gross Vehicle Weight rating of 14,001 lbs. or more. Motorcycle Trailer On Mar 16, 2009, at 7:43 AM, Keith0alan at aol.com wrote: > Here in Nevada only two counties require smog testing. The two with > 90% of > the population. All vehicles 68 and newer. Actually more restrictive > than > California with the rolling 25 years. > > keith > > > In a message dated 3/15/2009 7:48:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > slowboy at cox > .net writes: > > 1967 and newer here in lovely Maricopa County, Arizona. > > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed smog again!! > > Smog testing required on that old a vehicle in Nevada? > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John > Friederich > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:31 PM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Passed smog again!! > > It is always a pain in the a** thing to get the '69 2000 Solex 'B' > cam to > pass smog - all smog equipment was removed long ago. Had to make > only 4 > trips to the smog station this year, so it is getting easier . > The real > trick was to retard timing all the way to 0 - my adjustment would > only allow > me to go to about 5 degrees, so I removed the bolt completely and > got the > lowest hydrocarbon and CO readings at around 0 degrees. At this > point it > would barely achieve 2500 rpm, but passed, and at idle speed it > passed > easily. Of course, the pilot screws had to be leaned out some as > well, but > overdoing it resulted in CO skyrocketing. > > Spent the afternoon getting it to run right again - it does like > things on > the 'rich' side with timing at almost 20 degrees (Boone distributor). > Solvang, here we come! > > John F > LV, NV > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > You are subscribed as keith0alan at aol.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just > 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219850974x1201371016/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID > %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as turbored at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From scott at kaz-fam.com Mon Mar 16 11:33:57 2009 From: scott at kaz-fam.com (Scott Kaczmarek) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:33:57 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] How Do I Get A Title for a Titleless Car??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <005401c9a665$c5b71eb0$1550a8c0@seatex.com> ...so I have a title question. I just noticed some posts from Nevada and Smog Testing, you may also have some knowledge on this subject. I bought a 67 1600 in Nevada. PO told me that older cars in Nevada do not/can not have title, they only will register them??? I do have the previous registrations and a Bill of Sale. In Washington, where I live, they do need a title to transfer ownership. Does anyone have any experience/advice on what I can or need to do? I do not need to know what I should of done unless you are helping others not do what I did. I appreciate any help/advice anyone has for me. -Scott Kaczmarek From Keith0alan at aol.com Mon Mar 16 10:55:09 2009 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:55:09 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] How Do I Get A Title for a Titleless Car??? Message-ID: I have not heard that. As far as I know it should have a title. My 66s do. If you have the previous registration that should be a good lead to the last titled owner. I'm not sure of the process but our DMV&PS should be able to help you. Check their web site. keith In a message dated 3/16/2009 10:48:09 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, scott at kaz-fam.com writes: ....so I have a title question. I just noticed some posts from Nevada and Smog Testing, you may also have some knowledge on this subject. I bought a 67 1600 in Nevada. PO told me that older cars in Nevada do not/can not have title, they only will register them??? I do have the previous registrations and a Bill of Sale. In Washington, where I live, they do need a title to transfer ownership. Does anyone have any experience/advice on what I can or need to do? I do not need to know what I should of done unless you are helping others not do what I did. I appreciate any help/advice anyone has for me. -Scott Kaczmarek You are subscribed as keith0alan at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219850974x1201371016/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From ronnie.day at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 11:32:49 2009 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:32:49 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] How Do I Get A Title for a Titleless Car??? In-Reply-To: <2faaebf80903161130i4f7f0411y94bb1f23cd386ac2@mail.gmail.com> References: <2faaebf80903161130i4f7f0411y94bb1f23cd386ac2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2faaebf80903161132k6c9a4400j239c6541f5be1776@mail.gmail.com> Call your state DMV. You may need to get what's termed a bonded title, but since you have previous registrations you may not as long as you have a bill of sale. I've got a 510 that I was going to set up as strictly a track car and never got either the title or a bill/letter of sale and I can't locate the PO. Big mistake since I'm thinking seriously about putting it back on the street. It'll cost me a couple of hundred and take a few weeks, but at least I can do it here in Texas. HTH, Ron > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:55 PM, B wrote: >> I have not heard that. As far as I know it should have a title. My 66s do. >> If you have the previous registration that should be a good lead to the last >> titled owner. I'm not sure of the process but our DMV&PS should be able to >> help you. Check their web site. >> >> keith >> >> >> In a message dated 3/16/2009 10:48:09 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >> scott at kaz-fam.com writes: >> >> ....so I B have a title question. >> >> I just noticed some posts from Nevada and Smog B Testing, you may also have >> some knowledge on this subject. >> >> I bought B a 67 1600 in Nevada. B PO told me that older cars in Nevada do >> not/can B not have title, they only will register them??? B I do have B the >> previous registrations and a Bill of Sale. >> >> In Washington, where B I live, they do need a title to transfer ownership. >> >> Does anyone have B any experience/advice on what I can or need to do? >> >> I do not need to B know what I should of done unless you are helping others >> not do what I B did. >> >> I appreciate any help/advice anyone has for me. >> >> -Scott B Kaczmarek >> You are subscribed as B keith0alan at aol.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing B list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> >> >> **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy >> steps! >> (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219850974x1201371016/aol?redir=http :%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID >> %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net B http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as ronnie.day at gmail.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> > > > > -- > Ron > -- Ron From edmitche at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 11:36:00 2009 From: edmitche at gmail.com (Ed Mitchell) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:36:00 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Sorry to bother with my mindless madness...but.... Message-ID: <49be9c11.14da600a.7152.5508@mx.google.com> I have another part I can't identify...(I know...I'm such the wannabe) And of course... chromed or re-chromed this too (refer to the afore mentioned "issues") It's a trim piece I'm guessing...and goes??? <--the big question But any clue? Page 1, Slide 1 http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG Thanks for any and all help\recommendations Ed Mitchell Las Cruces, NM 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 http://www.ziaroc.com/ http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG <--Dead Betty : ) From bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com Mon Mar 16 11:57:50 2009 From: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com (Brian Hollands) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:57:50 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] How Do I Get A Title for a Titleless Car??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090316185751.CMPP26568.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B> I don't know any specifics about Washington or Nevada law but each state began issuing titles in different years. In Alabama, I could not get a title for my 69 as the state didn't issue titles until '74. When I moved to florida, I had to get a certified letter from the DVM stating that Alabama wasn't a title state until '74 and bring that along with my registration to the Florida DMV to have both title and registration issued. Call your states DMV and find out what documents they will require and while you're at it, confirm that Nevada didn't issue titles in '68. Brian 69 2000 Tampa, FL From vulforge at aol.com Mon Mar 16 12:23:05 2009 From: vulforge at aol.com (vulforge at aol.com) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:23:05 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Titles Message-ID: <8CB7483C3D913A5-9F8-EAB@WEBMAIL-DF17.sysops.aol.com> I can't speak for other states, but I recently got a new title for an old car.? I got a '61 Studebaker from Massachusetts with no title, just a bill of sale.? At the time of it's last registration, titles were not required for old cars.? It took some going back and forth with the DMV, and some phone calls to the state DMV, but eventually I just had to show that a title was not required in the state I purchased from.? I showed them a printout from the Mass. website and?Missouri issued me a new title in my name. Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1046 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com From markbennett1 at shaw.ca Mon Mar 16 13:36:29 2009 From: markbennett1 at shaw.ca (Mark Bennett) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:36:29 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] How Do I Get A Title for a Titleless Car??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I bought my roadster without a title in California. The guy that sold it to me hooked me up with some weird internet title company in Louisiana. I faxed them (before scanners) a copy of the bill of sale and some money and they sent me a Louisiana title for the car. That and a California bill of sale got me across the border into Canada. The Canadians said "if they US Customs is ok with this who are we to argue?" and I went on my way. It was strange, but if it got me out of the country I would think it would work for state DMV. Let me know if you want me to dig up the old paperwork (2003) and I'll see if I can find the title company. It may be a closed loophole by now though. Cheers Mark Bennett 70 1600 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Keith0alan at aol.com Sent: March 16, 2009 10:55 AM To: scott at kaz-fam.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How Do I Get A Title for a Titleless Car??? I have not heard that. As far as I know it should have a title. My 66s do. If you have the previous registration that should be a good lead to the last titled owner. I'm not sure of the process but our DMV&PS should be able to help you. Check their web site. keith In a message dated 3/16/2009 10:48:09 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, scott at kaz-fam.com writes: ....so I have a title question. I just noticed some posts from Nevada and Smog Testing, you may also have some knowledge on this subject. I bought a 67 1600 in Nevada. PO told me that older cars in Nevada do not/can not have title, they only will register them??? I do have the previous registrations and a Bill of Sale. In Washington, where I live, they do need a title to transfer ownership. Does anyone have any experience/advice on what I can or need to do? I do not need to know what I should of done unless you are helping others not do what I did. I appreciate any help/advice anyone has for me. -Scott Kaczmarek You are subscribed as keith0alan at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! 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In-Reply-To: <49be9c11.14da600a.7152.5508@mx.google.com> References: <49be9c11.14da600a.7152.5508@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <8FE00A6D50584347AAEB1738ABC341DB@m7170n> Go to your slide 8 page one and look at your radio console (left and right). -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ed Mitchell Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:36 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Sorry to bother with my mindless madness...but.... I have another part I can't identify...(I know...I'm such the wannabe) And of course... chromed or re-chromed this too (refer to the afore mentioned "issues") It's a trim piece I'm guessing...and goes??? <--the big question But any clue? Page 1, Slide 1 http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG Thanks for any and all help\recommendations Ed Mitchell Las Cruces, NM 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 http://www.ziaroc.com/ http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG <--Dead Betty : ) From mark at dealermats.com Mon Mar 16 15:12:44 2009 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:12:44 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Sorry to bother with my mindless madness...but.... In-Reply-To: <49be9c11.14da600a.7152.5508@mx.google.com> References: <49be9c11.14da600a.7152.5508@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Radio console trim Sent from my iPhone On Mar 16, 2009, at 2:36 PM, "Ed Mitchell" wrote: > I have another part I can't identify...(I know...I'm such the wannabe) > > And of course... chromed or re-chromed this too (refer to the afore > mentioned "issues") > > It's a trim piece I'm guessing...and goes??? <--the big question > > But any clue? > > Page 1, Slide 1 > > http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG > > > Thanks for any and all help\recommendations > > > Ed Mitchell > Las Cruces, NM > 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 http://www.ziaroc.com/ > http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG <--Dead Betty : ) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mark at dealermats.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From pat at hornesystemstx.com Mon Mar 16 18:07:40 2009 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:07:40 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Sorry to bother with my mindless madness...but.... In-Reply-To: <49be9c11.14da600a.7152.5508@mx.google.com> References: <49be9c11.14da600a.7152.5508@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <49BEF7DC.9080207@hornesystemstx.com> I believe they are the trim pieces that go up the side of the radio console. The curved ends match up with the console where the ash tray is located. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Ed Mitchell, On 3/16/2009 1:36 PM: > I have another part I can't identify...(I know...I'm such the wannabe) > > And of course... chromed or re-chromed this too (refer to the afore > mentioned "issues") > > It's a trim piece I'm guessing...and goes??? <--the big question > > But any clue? > > Page 1, Slide 1 > > http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG > > > Thanks for any and all help\recommendations > > > Ed Mitchell > Las Cruces, NM > 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 http://www.ziaroc.com/ > http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG <--Dead Betty : ) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 03/16/09 07:04:00 > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From daveandlindab at comcast.net Tue Mar 17 15:26:50 2009 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:26:50 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] How Do I Get A Title for a Titleless Car??? In-Reply-To: <005401c9a665$c5b71eb0$1550a8c0@seatex.com> Message-ID: <1B2CDD1B74964E669ED1C81AB2E2DE57@delled48909442> InNew Jersey, the Burecrtic Red Tape State, I registered a 66 from New York, same thing, no titles on cars before a cretain year. I needed the registration, and a notorized bill of sale from the seller. I got the new registration that day, and a standard New Jersey title when all was done, by mail, 6 weeks later. Inspection here for a car of that age is standard safety only, no smog, and is completely exempt from all inspection if registered as a collector car. Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: Scott Kaczmarek [mailto:scott at kaz-fam.com] Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:34 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] How Do I Get A Title for a Titleless Car??? ...so I have a title question. I just noticed some posts from Nevada and Smog Testing, you may also have some knowledge on this subject. I bought a 67 1600 in Nevada. PO told me that older cars in Nevada do not/can not have title, they only will register them??? I do have the previous registrations and a Bill of Sale. In Washington, where I live, they do need a title to transfer ownership. Does anyone have any experience/advice on what I can or need to do? I do not need to know what I should of done unless you are helping others not do what I did. I appreciate any help/advice anyone has for me. -Scott Kaczmarek From nmleeds at mindspring.com Tue Mar 17 15:39:50 2009 From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (nmleeds at mindspring.com) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:39:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] How Do I Get A Title for a Titleless Car??? Message-ID: <27637714.1237329590756.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> My title inspection in Colorado was in what appeared to be state prison. I drove in, past armed gunmen and a big faded sign that read "do not leave your car, await instructions" After waiting in 15 degree temperature in my topless '69 2000 I decided that the sign must be outdated, got out of my car and started walking over to the nearest door thinking I'd knock and find someone. Not a second after I left my car a voice over a loudspeaker -- I suspect from one of the prison watchtowers -- instructed me to wait in my car. The inspector explained that all the security was necessary because people tend to run when a highway patrolman finds they are driving a stolen car. It struck me that only a particularly law abiding car thief tries to get a title on a stolen car -- only in Colorado. -----Original Message----- >From: dave >Sent: Mar 17, 2009 6:26 PM >To: scott at kaz-fam.com, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How Do I Get A Title for a Titleless Car??? > >InNew Jersey, the Burecrtic Red Tape State, I registered a 66 from New York, >same thing, no titles on cars before a cretain year. I needed the >registration, and a notorized bill of sale from the seller. I got the new >registration that day, and a standard New Jersey title when all was done, by >mail, 6 weeks later. >Inspection here for a car of that age is standard safety only, no smog, and >is completely exempt from all inspection if registered as a collector car. > >Dave Brisco > >-----Original Message----- >From: Scott Kaczmarek [mailto:scott at kaz-fam.com] >Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:34 PM >To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Subject: [Roadsters] How Do I Get A Title for a Titleless Car??? > > >...so I have a title question. > >I just noticed some posts from Nevada and Smog Testing, you may also have >some knowledge on this subject. > >I bought a 67 1600 in Nevada. PO told me that older cars in Nevada do >not/can not have title, they only will register them??? I do have the >previous registrations and a Bill of Sale. > >In Washington, where I live, they do need a title to transfer ownership. > >Does anyone have any experience/advice on what I can or need to do? > >I do not need to know what I should of done unless you are helping others >not do what I did. > >I appreciate any help/advice anyone has for me. > >-Scott Kaczmarek >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as nmleeds at mindspring.com > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 17 16:05:03 2009 From: oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com (Matthew Cox) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:05:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] OT - 1987 BMW 325 Message-ID: <10830.97443.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hey All! I have on off topic question for everyone. I just bought a super cheap '87 BMW 325 for a second family car and have a question about an annoying stutter. On acceleration I have strong pull for about 3 seconds and then there is a pause/stutter -- almost feeling like someone is pressing the brakes for a split second, but coming from the engine -- then about 3 more seconds of pull and then a pause etc etc etc. After the stutter there is even an ever so slight surge of power. The stutter doesn't change at all as I accelerate. The interval from power to pause always stays the same regardless of engine speed, which seems odd. It also does it while driving at speed but not nearly as pronounced, and I don't notice anything steady and pronounced at all while at idle. I have already replaced the plugs and wires. Coil? Rotor and cap? Fuel delivery? Any ideas? Thanks in advance, everyone. Matthew in Phoenix From fj201 at cox.net Tue Mar 17 17:06:58 2009 From: fj201 at cox.net (Ron Hamilton) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:06:58 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT - 1987 BMW 325 In-Reply-To: <10830.97443.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <10830.97443.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49C03B22.2000906@cox.net> BMW that is the acronym for Bavarian money waster!!! Should have stuck with Nissan! :-) Matthew Cox wrote: > Hey All! I have on off topic question for everyone. > > I just bought a super cheap '87 BMW 325 for a second family car and have a > question about an annoying stutter. > > On acceleration I have strong pull for about 3 seconds and then there is a > pause/stutter -- almost feeling like someone is pressing the brakes for a > split second, but coming from the engine -- then about 3 more seconds of pull > and then a pause etc etc etc. After the stutter there is even an ever so > slight surge of power. The stutter doesn't change at all as I accelerate. The > interval from power to pause always stays the same regardless of engine speed, > which seems odd. It also does it while driving at speed but not nearly as > pronounced, and I don't notice anything steady and pronounced at all while at > idle. > > I have already replaced the plugs and wires. > > Coil? Rotor and cap? Fuel delivery? Any ideas? Thanks in advance, > everyone. > > Matthew in Phoenix > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fj201 at cox.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From pat at hornesystemstx.com Tue Mar 17 18:06:12 2009 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:06:12 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT - 1987 BMW 325 In-Reply-To: <49C03B22.2000906@cox.net> References: <10830.97443.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49C03B22.2000906@cox.net> Message-ID: <49C04904.5070900@hornesystemstx.com> Try putting a pressure gauge on the fuel rail and see if the pressure is dropping at those times. It could be as simple as a plugged fuel filter, or as $$ as a defective fuel pump (or computer, if it controls the pump). Peace, Pat Thusly spake Ron Hamilton, On 3/17/2009 7:06 PM: > BMW that is the acronym for Bavarian money waster!!! Should have stuck > with Nissan! :-) > > Matthew Cox wrote: >> Hey All! I have on off topic question for everyone. >> >> I just bought a super cheap '87 BMW 325 for a second family car and >> have a >> question about an annoying stutter. >> >> On acceleration I have strong pull for about 3 seconds and then there >> is a >> pause/stutter -- almost feeling like someone is pressing the brakes >> for a >> split second, but coming from the engine -- then about 3 more seconds >> of pull >> and then a pause etc etc etc. After the stutter there is even an ever so >> slight surge of power. The stutter doesn't change at all as I >> accelerate. The >> interval from power to pause always stays the same regardless of >> engine speed, >> which seems odd. It also does it while driving at speed but not >> nearly as >> pronounced, and I don't notice anything steady and pronounced at all >> while at >> idle. >> >> I have already replaced the plugs and wires. >> Coil? Rotor and cap? Fuel delivery? Any ideas? Thanks in advance, >> everyone. >> >> Matthew in Phoenix >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as fj201 at cox.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.17/2007 - Release Date: 03/17/09 10:18:00 > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From aultgc at att.net Tue Mar 17 18:37:00 2009 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:37:00 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT - 1987 BMW 325 References: <10830.97443.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49C03B22.2000906@cox.net> Message-ID: <9EABFB27A21E4826ADFC6F98AE1334DC@gaxp1> Ron, I have it on authority of a good friend from Germany that "BMW" actually stands for "Bayerische Mist Wagen", which, for those who do not know the language, translates to "Bavarian Manure Wagon". (My friend drove an Audi.) He also said that the name of our company (for which I worked at the time), "KWU", which I thought meant "Kraftwerk Union" ("power plant consortium") actually stood for "Keine Will Uns", or "No One Likes Us". Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Hamilton" To: ; "Datsun Forum" Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT - 1987 BMW 325 > BMW that is the acronym for Bavarian money waster!!! Should have stuck > with Nissan! :-) > > Matthew Cox wrote: >> Hey All! I have on off topic question for everyone. >> >> I just bought a super cheap '87 BMW 325 for a second family car and have >> a >> question about an annoying stutter. >> >> On acceleration I have strong pull for about 3 seconds and then there is >> a >> pause/stutter -- almost feeling like someone is pressing the brakes for a >> split second, but coming from the engine -- then about 3 more seconds of >> pull >> and then a pause etc etc etc. After the stutter there is even an ever so >> slight surge of power. The stutter doesn't change at all as I accelerate. >> The >> interval from power to pause always stays the same regardless of engine >> speed, >> which seems odd. It also does it while driving at speed but not nearly as >> pronounced, and I don't notice anything steady and pronounced at all >> while at >> idle. >> >> I have already replaced the plugs and wires. Coil? Rotor and cap? Fuel >> delivery? Any ideas? Thanks in advance, >> everyone. >> >> Matthew in Phoenix >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as fj201 at cox.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com Tue Mar 17 18:59:36 2009 From: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com (Brian Hollands) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:59:36 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] OT - 1987 BMW 325 In-Reply-To: <10830.97443.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090318015936.HMOW18800.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B> The E30 325 is a great car. In fact, I remember telling my dad after having driven an 82 911SC for a while that the Porsche made me realize just how good a car my BMW was... Of course I still have my 2000 - the BMW and the Porsche are both history. My guess is fuel pressure regulator. There are a couple of good BMW and E30 specific web boards. I'd google them and ask there. ________________________________ Brian Hollands 69 2000 Formerly 86 325eS Tampa, FL From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 17 19:23:46 2009 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:23:46 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT - 1987 BMW 325 In-Reply-To: <9EABFB27A21E4826ADFC6F98AE1334DC@gaxp1> References: <10830.97443.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49C03B22.2000906@cox.net> <9EABFB27A21E4826ADFC6F98AE1334DC@gaxp1> Message-ID: <49C05B32.3030106@sbcglobal.net> All I see when I see an Audi on the road is someone who paid too much for their Volkswagen. Gary McCormick San Jose '99 Jetta daily driver '70 Roadster SRL311-13291 someday driver Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > Ron, > > I have it on authority of a good friend from Germany that "BMW" > actually stands for "Bayerische Mist Wagen", which, for those who do > not know the language, translates to "Bavarian Manure Wagon". (My > friend drove an Audi.) > > He also said that the name of our company (for which I worked at the > time), "KWU", which I thought meant "Kraftwerk Union" ("power plant > consortium") actually stood for "Keine Will Uns", or "No One Likes Us". > > Gary > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Hamilton" > To: ; "Datsun Forum" > > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:06 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT - 1987 BMW 325 > > >> BMW that is the acronym for Bavarian money waster!!! Should have >> stuck with Nissan! :-) >> >> Matthew Cox wrote: >>> Hey All! I have on off topic question for everyone. >>> >>> I just bought a super cheap '87 BMW 325 for a second family car and >>> have a >>> question about an annoying stutter. >>> >>> On acceleration I have strong pull for about 3 seconds and then >>> there is a >>> pause/stutter -- almost feeling like someone is pressing the brakes >>> for a >>> split second, but coming from the engine -- then about 3 more >>> seconds of pull >>> and then a pause etc etc etc. After the stutter there is even an >>> ever so >>> slight surge of power. The stutter doesn't change at all as I >>> accelerate. The >>> interval from power to pause always stays the same regardless of >>> engine speed, >>> which seems odd. It also does it while driving at speed but not >>> nearly as >>> pronounced, and I don't notice anything steady and pronounced at all >>> while at >>> idle. >>> >>> I have already replaced the plugs and wires. Coil? Rotor and cap? >>> Fuel delivery? Any ideas? Thanks in advance, >>> everyone. >>> >>> Matthew in Phoenix >>> ________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as fj201 at cox.net >>> >>> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gkmcc at sbcglobal.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From andycost at embarqmail.com Tue Mar 17 19:28:23 2009 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:28:23 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT - 1987 BMW 325 In-Reply-To: <10830.97443.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I thought it was Break My Wallet. I have worked on several of these cars. They have finicky electronics in the fuel injection. I suggest checking the idle bypass valve which is on the back side of the intake manifold. They are prone to problems. Andy From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Mar 18 09:36:36 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:36:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] OT - 1987 BMW 325 In-Reply-To: <20090318015936.HMOW18800.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B> Message-ID: <267771286.6245111237394196384.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> E30's are great.....as a donor. The headlights are a super upgrade for roadsters, 510's, etc. Pete "we still have the 914" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Hollands" To: oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:59:36 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT - 1987 BMW 325 The E30 325 is a great car. In fact, I remember telling my dad after having driven an 82 911SC for a while that the Porsche made me realize just how good a car my BMW was... Of course I still have my 2000 - the BMW and the Porsche are both history. My guess is fuel pressure regulator. There are a couple of good BMW and E30 specific web boards. I'd google them and ask there. ________________________________ Brian Hollands 69 2000 Formerly 86 325eS Tampa, FL ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ericerichoffman at yahoo.com Wed Mar 18 11:01:25 2009 From: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com (Eric Hoffman) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] calling dan gallmeister Message-ID: <264504.54020.qm@web36908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Anybody know what's up with DGR Fabrication? They moved a few weeks back and the phone still isn't working. Anybody have a different number than the one on the website or an email address? Eric Hoffman From gogineni.alvin at gene.com Wed Mar 18 11:34:19 2009 From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:34:19 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] calling dan gallmeister In-Reply-To: <264504.54020.qm@web36908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <264504.54020.qm@web36908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: DGR is fine, was there yesterday shop phone: 650-995-7685 On Mar 18, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Eric Hoffman wrote: > Anybody know what's up with DGR Fabrication? They moved a few weeks > back and > the phone still isn't working. Anybody have a different number than > the one > on the website or an email address? > > Eric Hoffman > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gogineni.alvin at gene.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From edmitche at gmail.com Wed Mar 18 13:17:06 2009 From: edmitche at gmail.com (Ed Mitchell) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:17:06 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please Message-ID: <49c156c1.22bd720a.0ac3.ffffd596@mx.google.com> Hi All...I've got a 1967.5 SPL311 1600 My exterior is Red...and Im going with a grey interior with Black Cloth top Looking for some pictures of some of your interiors...and \ or web sites with interior pics I'm getting a custom job done...but I'm wanting to stay with an "original feel" I know...I Know...I'm modifying the original...and I may be kicked off the list for doing so... But if ya wanna make a small CASH donation...then you get to have say in the restore : ) jk Thanks for any ideas and direction Ed Mitchell Las Cruces, NM 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 http://www.ziaroc.com/ http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG <--Dead Betty : ) From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 18 13:29:42 2009 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please In-Reply-To: <49c156c1.22bd720a.0ac3.ffffd596@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <542912.35142.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Could be worse - you could be putting Miata seats in it... Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Wed, 3/18/09, Ed Mitchell wrote: From: Ed Mitchell Subject: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 1:17 PM Hi All...I've got a 1967.5 SPL311 1600 My exterior is Red...and Im going with a grey interior with Black Cloth top Looking for some pictures of some of your interiors...and \ or web sites with interior pics I'm getting a custom job done...but I'm wanting to stay with an "original feel" I know...I Know...I'm modifying the original...and I may be kicked off the list for doing so... But if ya wanna make a small CASH donation...then you get to have say in the restore : ) jk Thanks for any ideas and direction Ed Mitchell Las Cruces, NM 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 http://www.ziaroc.com/ http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG <--Dead Betty : ) You are subscribed as gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gogineni.alvin at gene.com Wed Mar 18 13:30:58 2009 From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:30:58 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please In-Reply-To: <49c156c1.22bd720a.0ac3.ffffd596@mx.google.com> References: <49c156c1.22bd720a.0ac3.ffffd596@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <0A92E046-8912-49E5-B1B8-335E24A1A152@gene.com> Go here, click on the "Interior" albums. There are black/red/gray/combo pics http://community.webshots.com/user/alving044 On Mar 18, 2009, at 1:17 PM, Ed Mitchell wrote: > Hi All...I've got a 1967.5 SPL311 1600 > > My exterior is Red...and Im going with a grey interior with Black > Cloth top > > Looking for some pictures of some of your interiors...and \ or web > sites > with interior pics > > I'm getting a custom job done...but I'm wanting to stay with an > "original > feel" > > I know...I Know...I'm modifying the original...and I may be kicked > off the > list for doing so... > > But if ya wanna make a small CASH donation...then you get to have > say in the > restore : ) jk > > Thanks for any ideas and direction > > > > Ed Mitchell > Las Cruces, NM > 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 > http://www.ziaroc.com/ > http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG <--Dead Betty : ) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gogineni.alvin at gene.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From dato1500 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 18 13:33:49 2009 From: dato1500 at hotmail.com (Peter Jones) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 05:33:49 +0900 Subject: [Roadsters] High Screen car Message-ID: Greetings People of the Great Roadster List, I am in need of a High screen car in the Mt Dandenong region in Victoria. I am wanting to get a custom soft car cover made to protect the $7k paint job I had just gotten finished by a company in that regoin and since I live in WA in makes it a little hard. The guy will only cut the template for the cover from a car and will not use measurements that can be sent to him. So I am wondering if there is anybody on the list that may be willing to help out and let this guy use your car as the template. The car must have a working soft top. Contact me of list Cheers Peter j _________________________________________________________________ Looking for a place to manage all your online stuff? Explore the new Windows Live . http://www.microsoft.com/australia/windows/windowslive/ From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 18 14:06:20 2009 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please In-Reply-To: <542912.35142.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <601000.64702.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Could be even worse - you could be putting MG taillights on it... Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Wed, 3/18/09, Gary McCormick wrote: From: Gary McCormick Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net, "Ed Mitchell" Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 1:29 PM Could be worse - you could be putting Miata seats in it... Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Wed, 3/18/09, Ed Mitchell wrote: From: Ed Mitchell Subject: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 1:17 PM Hi All...I've got a 1967.5 SPL311 1600 My exterior is Red...and Im going with a grey interior with Black Cloth top Looking for some pictures of some of your interiors...and \ or web sites with interior pics I'm getting a custom job done...but I'm wanting to stay with an "original feel" I know...I Know...I'm modifying the original...and I may be kicked off the list for doing so... But if ya wanna make a small CASH donation...then you get to have say in the restore : ) jk Thanks for any ideas and direction Ed Mitchell Las Cruces, NM 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 http://www.ziaroc.com/ http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG <--Dead Betty : ) You are subscribed as gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From slowboy at cox.net Wed Mar 18 16:36:54 2009 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:36:54 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please In-Reply-To: <601000.64702.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <542912.35142.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <601000.64702.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8F34CC96111A430AAAAB3185C9DA6A95@m7170n> You're not kidding about them MG tail lights. As for the seats...... me whistles and kicks the dirt. I'm setting mine up for both the stock and Miata seats to go with the stock and Grant steering wheels. Of course the 70 column wasn't native to the 66; I just have a fear of being skewered. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary McCormick Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:06 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; Ed Mitchell Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please Could be even worse - you could be putting MG taillights on it... Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Wed, 3/18/09, Gary McCormick wrote: From: Gary McCormick Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net, "Ed Mitchell" Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 1:29 PM Could be worse - you could be putting Miata seats in it... Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Wed, 3/18/09, Ed Mitchell wrote: From: Ed Mitchell Subject: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 1:17 PM Hi All...I've got a 1967.5 SPL311 1600 My exterior is Red...and Im going with a grey interior with Black Cloth top Looking for some pictures of some of your interiors...and \ or web sites with interior pics I'm getting a custom job done...but I'm wanting to stay with an "original feel" I know...I Know...I'm modifying the original...and I may be kicked off the list for doing so... But if ya wanna make a small CASH donation...then you get to have say in the restore : ) jk Thanks for any ideas and direction Ed Mitchell Las Cruces, NM 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 http://www.ziaroc.com/ http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG <--Dead Betty : ) From ljordan704 at netscape.net Wed Mar 18 17:06:44 2009 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:06:44 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please In-Reply-To: <8F34CC96111A430AAAAB3185C9DA6A95@m7170n> References: <542912.35142.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com><601000.64702.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8F34CC96111A430AAAAB3185C9DA6A95@m7170n> Message-ID: <8CB763DB8C8E7B5-165C-1DD8@mblk-d21.sysops.aol.com> Better a live modifier than a dead purist. Linda -----Original Message----- From: SlowBoy To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 4:36 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please ..... Of course the 70 column wasn't native to the 66; I just have a fear of being skewered. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary McCormick Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:06 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; Ed Mitchell Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please Could be even worse - you could be putting MG taillights on it... Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Wed, 3/18/09, Gary McCormick wrote: From: Gary McCormick Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net, "Ed Mitchell" Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 1:29 PM Could be worse - you could be putting Miata seats in it... Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Wed, 3/18/09, Ed Mitchell wrote: From: Ed Mitchell Subject: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 1:17 PM Hi All...I've got a 1967.5 SPL311 1600 My exterior is Red...and Im going with a grey interior with Black Cloth top Looking for some pictures of some of your interiors...and \ or web sites with interior pics I'm getting a custom job done...but I'm wanting to stay with an "original feel" I know...I Know...I'm modifying the original...and I may be kicked off the list for doing so... But if ya wanna make a small CASH donation...then you get to have say in the restore : ) jk Thanks for any ideas and direction Ed Mitchell Las Cruces, NM 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 http://www.ziaroc.com/ http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG <--Dead Betty : ) You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Mar 18 20:10:25 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:10:25 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] How Do I Get A Title for a Titleless Car??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D3811EDA9374B239D11BADF72A8DDE5@xp> According to Nevada DMV, the seller is required to provide a title. If the seller doesn't have the title, then the Owner of Record. There's some exceptions, but my first thought is that your seller tried to skirt paying fees. More details: Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Keith0alan at aol.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:55 AM To: scott at kaz-fam.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How Do I Get A Title for a Titleless Car??? I have not heard that. As far as I know it should have a title. My 66s do. If you have the previous registration that should be a good lead to the last titled owner. I'm not sure of the process but our DMV&PS should be able to help you. Check their web site. keith In a message dated 3/16/2009 10:48:09 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, scott at kaz-fam.com writes: ....so I have a title question. I just noticed some posts from Nevada and Smog Testing, you may also have some knowledge on this subject. I bought a 67 1600 in Nevada. PO told me that older cars in Nevada do not/can not have title, they only will register them??? I do have the previous registrations and a Bill of Sale. In Washington, where I live, they do need a title to transfer ownership. Does anyone have any experience/advice on what I can or need to do? I do not need to know what I should of done unless you are helping others not do what I did. I appreciate any help/advice anyone has for me. -Scott Kaczmarek You are subscribed as keith0alan at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! 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Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ljordan704 at netscape.net Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 5:07 PM To: slowboy at cox.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please Better a live modifier than a dead purist. Linda -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of SlowBoy Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:37 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please [snip] Of course the 70 column wasn't native to the 66; I just have a fear of being skewered. From eddietude at socal.rr.com Thu Mar 19 00:03:09 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:03:09 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel nut size question In-Reply-To: <49BD9DD4.10504@socal.rr.com> References: <49BD9DD4.10504@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <49C1EE2D.8090009@socal.rr.com> Hey, No one responded to this question when I posed it earlier. ANYONE? Eddie wrote: > Here's a question: > > What size are the threads on the shaft of the collapsable steering > column (late model) where the nut goes and holds the steering wheel on? > What is the size for the early models? (The one's with the "death spear") Are they supposed to be the same? > > > Thanks. > > Eddie > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gsglasgow at comcast.net Thu Mar 19 08:17:00 2009 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:17:00 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel nut size question In-Reply-To: <49C1EE2D.8090009@socal.rr.com> References: <49BD9DD4.10504@socal.rr.com> <49C1EE2D.8090009@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <001401c9a8a5$c14bcb90$43e362b0$@net> They're different: Early is 5/8" x 18 Late is 16mm X 1.5 Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eddie Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:03 AM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Steering wheel nut size question Hey, No one responded to this question when I posed it earlier. ANYONE? Eddie wrote: > Here's a question: > > What size are the threads on the shaft of the collapsable steering > column (late model) where the nut goes and holds the steering wheel on? > What is the size for the early models? (The one's with the "death spear") Are they supposed to be the same? > > > Thanks. > > Eddie > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 19 09:33:30 2009 From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:33:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster parts in Ohio Message-ID: <648947.52352.qm@web81004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hey gang, Saw this ad on Craigslist. Parts in Ohio. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/pts/1081795956.html From eddietude at socal.rr.com Thu Mar 19 10:38:53 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:38:53 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel nut size question In-Reply-To: <001401c9a8a5$c14bcb90$43e362b0$@net> References: <49BD9DD4.10504@socal.rr.com> <49C1EE2D.8090009@socal.rr.com> <001401c9a8a5$c14bcb90$43e362b0$@net> Message-ID: <49C2832D.3020602@socal.rr.com> Well that explains a few things! LOL Thanks guys! Eddie Gordon Glasgow wrote: > They're different: > > Early is 5/8" x 18 > Late is 16mm X 1.5 > > Gordon Glasgow > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eddie > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:03 AM > To: Datsun Roadster List > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Steering wheel nut size question > > Hey, > > No one responded to this question when I posed it earlier. > > ANYONE? > > Eddie wrote: > >> Here's a question: >> >> What size are the threads on the shaft of the collapsable steering >> column (late model) where the nut goes and holds the steering wheel on? >> What is the size for the early models? (The one's with the "death spear") >> > > Are they supposed to be the same? > >> Thanks. >> >> Eddie >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gsglasgow at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From RWM at RWMann.com Thu Mar 19 10:48:53 2009 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:48:53 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel nut size question In-Reply-To: <49C2832D.3020602@socal.rr.com> References: <49BD9DD4.10504@socal.rr.com> <49C1EE2D.8090009@socal.rr.com> <001401c9a8a5$c14bcb90$43e362b0$@net> <49C2832D.3020602@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <49C28585.1060606@RWMann.com> I was going to say the nut behind the wheel comes in all sizes, shapes and genders... Eddie wrote: > Well that explains a few things! LOL > > Thanks guys! > > Eddie > > > Gordon Glasgow wrote: >> They're different: >> >> Early is 5/8" x 18 >> Late is 16mm X 1.5 >> >> Gordon Glasgow >> -----Original Message----- >> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net >> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eddie >> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:03 AM >> To: Datsun Roadster List >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Steering wheel nut size question >> >> Hey, >> >> No one responded to this question when I posed it earlier. >> ANYONE? >> Eddie wrote: >> >>> Here's a question: >>> >>> What size are the threads on the shaft of the collapsable steering >>> column (late model) where the nut goes and holds the steering wheel on? >>> What is the size for the early models? (The one's with the "death >>> spear") >>> >> >> Are they supposed to be the same? >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Eddie From jeffzster at yahoo.com Thu Mar 19 11:51:57 2009 From: jeffzster at yahoo.com (Jeff Torres) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for Reproduction Month Sticker Message-ID: <86845.99272.qm@web110403.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hey All, Does anyone know where I can get an old school reproduction(or original) "month" tab sticker for the old school CA Black and yellow plates. THX! From daveandlindab at comcast.net Thu Mar 19 19:44:04 2009 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:44:04 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please In-Reply-To: <9241988E3E4C47D183538316431C94BA@xp> Message-ID: <6B3CB69FA9084F92B7E0CA6B1CC35C22@delled48909442> The death spear was actually a crude driver retention system. The Air bag, being soft and fluffy was deemed a better idea a few years later. But all kidding aside, has anyone heard of someone actually being Shish Kebobed on a steering column, in a collision that wouldn't have otherwise killed or seriously injured them anyway? If the column collapses, next solid object is the windshield and dash, even with a lap belt. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Pete Peters [mailto:ppeters914 at comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:12 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please I hope you also don't fear slipping in the tub/shower. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ljordan704 at netscape.net Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 5:07 PM To: slowboy at cox.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please Better a live modifier than a dead purist. Linda -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of SlowBoy Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:37 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please [snip] Of course the 70 column wasn't native to the 66; I just have a fear of being skewered. From Keith0alan at aol.com Thu Mar 19 20:25:37 2009 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:25:37 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please Message-ID: Yes I have. His chest got caved in, broke his back. A collapsing column would have no doubt helped a lot. With the period lap belt you can hit the steering column quite hard. keith In a message dated 3/19/2009 7:45:27 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, daveandlindab at comcast.net writes: The death spear was actually a crude driver retention system. The Air bag, being soft and fluffy was deemed a better idea a few years later. But all kidding aside, has anyone heard of someone actually being Shish Kebobed on a steering column, in a collision that wouldn't have otherwise killed or seriously injured them anyway? If the column collapses, next solid object is the windshield and dash, even with a lap belt. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Pete Peters [mailto:ppeters914 at comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:12 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please I hope you also don't fear slipping in the tub/shower. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ljordan704 at netscape.net Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 5:07 PM To: slowboy at cox.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please Better a live modifier than a dead purist. Linda -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of SlowBoy Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:37 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please [snip] Of course the 70 column wasn't native to the 66; I just have a fear of being skewered. You are subscribed as keith0alan at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************Great Deals on Dell 15" Laptops - Starting at $479 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220029050x1201385914/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doub leclick.net%2Fclk%3B212974460%3B34272906%3Bh) From mikequilici at yahoo.com Thu Mar 19 20:29:17 2009 From: mikequilici at yahoo.com (mike quilici) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:29:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 stroker Message-ID: <996119.67923.qm@web52109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hey All, I've been on the list here for several months, but have only been a spectator. Now I have a question. I have a 70 Roadster and it is in need of a rebuild. I am thinking of making it a stroker. This would give me more power and still look original. I have not been able to find a very detailed plan of exactly what I would need to do, step by step. Does anyone have a plan like this or know where to get one? I am a novice at this and need a detailed plan. I can't afford to pay anyone to do it or I would, so it's me or nothing. Thanks in advance! Mike Quilici Modesto 1970 Datsun Roadster From aultgc at att.net Thu Mar 19 20:35:59 2009 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel nut size question References: <49BD9DD4.10504@socal.rr.com> <49C1EE2D.8090009@socal.rr.com> <001401c9a8a5$c14bcb90$43e362b0$@net> <49C2832D.3020602@socal.rr.com> <49C28585.1060606@RWMann.com> Message-ID: <114656.85560.qm@web180216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> And many of them are "loose"... Gary ________________________________ From: RWM To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:48:53 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Steering wheel nut size question I was going to say the nut behind the wheel comes in all sizes, shapes and genders... Eddie wrote: > Well that explains a few things! LOL > > Thanks guys! > > Eddie > > > Gordon Glasgow wrote: >> They're different: >> >> Early is 5/8" x 18 >> Late is 16mm X 1.5 >> >> Gordon Glasgow >> -----Original Message----- >> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net >> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eddie >> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:03 AM >> To: Datsun Roadster List >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Steering wheel nut size question >> >> Hey, >> >> No one responded to this question when I posed it earlier. >> ANYONE? >> Eddie wrote: >> >>> Here's a question: >>> >>> What size are the threads on the shaft of the collapsable steering >>> column (late model) where the nut goes and holds the steering wheel on? >>> What is the size for the early models? (The one's with the "death >>> spear") >>> >> >> Are they supposed to be the same? >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Eddie ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gsglasgow at comcast.net Thu Mar 19 21:40:34 2009 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:40:34 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel nut size question In-Reply-To: <49C28585.1060606@RWMann.com> References: <49BD9DD4.10504@socal.rr.com> <49C1EE2D.8090009@socal.rr.com> <001401c9a8a5$c14bcb90$43e362b0$@net> <49C2832D.3020602@socal.rr.com> <49C28585.1060606@RWMann.com> Message-ID: <007701c9a916$029602d0$07c20870$@net> ...and requires frequent re-torqueing in some cases. ;-) Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of RWM Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:49 AM To: 'Datsun Roadster List' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Steering wheel nut size question I was going to say the nut behind the wheel comes in all sizes, shapes and genders... Eddie wrote: > Well that explains a few things! LOL > > Thanks guys! > > Eddie > > > Gordon Glasgow wrote: >> They're different: >> >> Early is 5/8" x 18 >> Late is 16mm X 1.5 >> >> Gordon Glasgow >> -----Original Message----- >> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net >> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eddie >> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:03 AM >> To: Datsun Roadster List >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Steering wheel nut size question >> >> Hey, >> >> No one responded to this question when I posed it earlier. >> ANYONE? >> Eddie wrote: >> >>> Here's a question: >>> >>> What size are the threads on the shaft of the collapsable steering >>> column (late model) where the nut goes and holds the steering wheel on? >>> What is the size for the early models? (The one's with the "death >>> spear") >>> >> >> Are they supposed to be the same? >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Eddie Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gsglasgow at comcast.net Thu Mar 19 21:45:52 2009 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:45:52 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 stroker In-Reply-To: <996119.67923.qm@web52109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <996119.67923.qm@web52109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <007801c9a916$c0746d00$415d4700$@net> Lots of info available at www.311s.org. Go to the PMWiki Tech Section and do a search on "1600 stroker." Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of mike quilici Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 8:29 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 stroker Hey All, I've been on the list here for several months, but have only been a spectator. Now I have a question. I have a 70 Roadster and it is in need of a rebuild. I am thinking of making it a stroker. This would give me more power and still look original. I have not been able to find a very detailed plan of exactly what I would need to do, step by step. Does anyone have a plan like this or know where to get one? I am a novice at this and need a detailed plan. I can't afford to pay anyone to do it or I would, so it's me or nothing. Thanks in advance! Mike Quilici Modesto 1970 Datsun Roadster Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From drlsmith at dccnet.com Thu Mar 19 21:46:01 2009 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:46:01 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 stroker References: <996119.67923.qm@web52109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1611518A5B184489B5DD0FB2B97DEC68@Daryl> There is a good thread here outlining how several people, myself included, have built their strokers.... http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7211 Some have done little more than installing the stroker crank, others have made many modifications to improve power and efficiency...... Daryl '66 1800cc stroker, EFI, EDIS ignition. ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike quilici" To: Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 8:29 PM Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 stroker > Hey All, > > I've been on the list here for several months, but have only been a > spectator. > Now I have a question. > > I have a 70 Roadster and it is in need of a rebuild. I am thinking of > making > it a stroker. This would give me more power and still look original. I > have > not been able to find a very detailed plan of exactly what I would need to > do, > step by step. Does anyone have a plan like this or know where to get one? > I am > a novice at this and need a detailed plan. > > I can't afford to pay anyone to do it or I would, so it's me or nothing. > Thanks in advance! > > Mike Quilici > Modesto > 1970 Datsun Roadster From eddietude at socal.rr.com Fri Mar 20 01:32:00 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:32:00 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please In-Reply-To: <6B3CB69FA9084F92B7E0CA6B1CC35C22@delled48909442> References: <6B3CB69FA9084F92B7E0CA6B1CC35C22@delled48909442> Message-ID: <49C35480.3010404@socal.rr.com> Actually I have. Collapsable steering columns have saved countless lives. They do work as intended, and they do save lives... Eddie dave wrote: > The death spear was actually a crude driver retention system. The Air bag, > being soft and fluffy was deemed a better idea a few years later. But all > kidding aside, has anyone heard of someone actually being Shish Kebobed on a > steering column, in a collision that wouldn't have otherwise killed or > seriously injured them anyway? If the column collapses, next solid object > is the windshield and dash, even with a lap belt. > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pete Peters [mailto:ppeters914 at comcast.net] > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:12 PM > To: Datsun Roadster List > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please > > > I hope you also don't fear slipping in the tub/shower. > > Pete > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > ljordan704 at netscape.net > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 5:07 PM > To: slowboy at cox.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please > > Better a live modifier than a dead purist. > > Linda > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of SlowBoy > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:37 PM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please > > [snip] > > Of course the 70 column wasn't native to the 66; I just have a fear of > being skewered. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From tom at datsun2000.com Fri Mar 20 02:45:38 2009 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 02:45:38 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please Message-ID: These roadsters can surprise you in an accident. I am probably the only guy on the list who hit a high cement curb head on at about 35 mph in a roadster. That was in a 68 2L in 1969 when a lady made a left turn into me and caused me to veer to the right. Right into a high cement curb still moving at 35-40 mph. The only picture I have of the car is on the opening page of datsun2000.com. I had the seat belts on, including the shoulder strap, which was a new addition in 1968. My glasses smashed on the windshield, but I unhooked the top and stepped out over the drivers door and walked away from the car with broken chest cartilage caused by the shoulder harness. The steering column was never an issue. On 3/19/2009 7:44:04 PM, dave (daveandlindab at comcast.net) wrote: > The death spear was actually a crude driver retention system. The Air bag, > > being soft and fluffy was deemed a better idea a few years later. But > all > kidding aside, has anyone heard of someone actually being Shish Kebobed on > a > steering column, in a collision that > wouldn't have otherwise killed or > seriously injured them anyway? If the column collapses, next solid object > is the windshield and dash, even with a lap belt. > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pete Peters [mailto:ppeters914 at comcast.net] > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:12 PM > To: Datsun Roadster List > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please > > > I hope you also don't > fear slipping in the tub/shower. > > Pete > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > ljordan704 at netscape.net > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 5:07 PM > To: slowboy at cox.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please > > Better a live modifier than a dead purist. > > Linda > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto: From Keith0alan at aol.com Fri Mar 20 04:59:18 2009 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:59:18 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please Message-ID: That was a 68 with the collapsible column and a shoulder belt. Two really big improvements. In order to keep the roadster in production Nissan was going to need to add all the new safety changes like 5 mph bumpers. Roadsters were being made in the same factory as the Z that they could not make enough of. The business decision was obvious. keith In a message dated 3/20/2009 2:46:14 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tom at datsun2000.com writes: These roadsters can surprise you in an accident. I am probably the only guy on the list who hit a high cement curb head on at about 35 mph in a roadster. That was in a 68 2L in 1969 when a lady made a left turn into me and caused me to veer to the right. Right into a high cement curb still moving at 35-40 mph. The only picture I have of the car is on the opening page of datsun2000.com. I had the seat belts on, including the shoulder strap, which was a new addition in 1968. My glasses smashed on the windshield, but I unhooked the top and stepped out over the drivers door and walked away from the car with broken chest cartilage caused by the shoulder harness. The steering column was never an issue. On 3/19/2009 7:44:04 PM, dave (daveandlindab at comcast.net) wrote: > The death spear was actually a crude driver retention system. The Air bag, > > being soft and fluffy was deemed a better idea a few years later. But > all > kidding aside, has anyone heard of someone actually being Shish Kebobed on > a > steering column, in a collision that > wouldn't have otherwise killed or > seriously injured them anyway? If the column collapses, next solid object > is the windshield and dash, even with a lap belt. > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pete Peters [mailto:ppeters914 at comcast.net] > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:12 PM > To: Datsun Roadster List > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please > > > I hope you also don't > fear slipping in the tub/shower. > > Pete > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > ljordan704 at netscape.net > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 5:07 PM > To: slowboy at cox.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please > > Better a live modifier than a dead purist. > > Linda > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto: You are subscribed as keith0alan at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219619459x1201345309/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DMarchfooterNO62) From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 20 06:29:57 2009 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 06:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <777822.69591.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> That's the problem with a lap belt-only system - in a frontal collision your upper body pivots forward, rotating at the line where the lap belt crosses the body. If you are the driver, this results in a physical confrontation between the steering wheel and your chest. If the collision is violent enough, front-end crushing will move the steering wheel toward you, increasing the problem... My dad was a CHP officer when I was a kid - I saw lots of pics of accident scenes in CHP magazine (thank goodness they weren't in color!) Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Fri, 3/20/09, Tom @ Datsun2000 wrote: From: Tom @ Datsun2000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please To: "Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" , "Daveandlindab at Comcast. Net" Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 2:45 AM These roadsters can surprise you in an accident. I am probably the only guy on the list who hit a high cement curb head on at about 35 mph in a roadster. That was in a 68 2L in 1969 when a lady made a left turn into me and caused me to veer to the right. Right into a high cement curb still moving at 35-40 mph. The only picture I have of the car is on the opening page of datsun2000.com. I had the seat belts on, including the shoulder strap, which was a new addition in 1968. My glasses smashed on the windshield, but I unhooked the top and stepped out over the drivers door and walked away from the car with broken chest cartilage caused by the shoulder harness. The steering column was never an issue. On 3/19/2009 7:44:04 PM, dave (daveandlindab at comcast.net) wrote: > The death spear was actually a crude driver retention system. The Air bag, > > being soft and fluffy was deemed a better idea a few years later. But > all > kidding aside, has anyone heard of someone actually being Shish Kebobed on > a > steering column, in a collision that > wouldn't have otherwise killed or > seriously injured them anyway? If the column collapses, next solid object > is the windshield and dash, even with a lap belt. > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pete Peters [mailto:ppeters914 at comcast.net] > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:12 PM > To: Datsun Roadster List > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please > > > I hope you also don't > fear slipping in the tub/shower. > > Pete > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > ljordan704 at netscape.net > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 5:07 PM > To: slowboy at cox.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please > > Better a live modifier than a dead purist. > > Linda > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto: You are subscribed as gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From tputland at charter.net Fri Mar 20 13:29:08 2009 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:29:08 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] lower a arms and spindle nut size Message-ID: <20090320162908.GQJWB.2958420.root@mp16> I pulled the front suspension from one of my part cars with the intention of cleaning, de-rusting, painting, etc the parts that can be re-used. Then using them on my 1600 when I do that car's suspension this spring. Should I take the A-arms all the way apart to de-rust? Or should I leave the spring mount plates attached and treat that as one part during this process? What size is the nut on the lower spindles? I need to buy something big enough to grab this nut. TIA!! Tim From bubwin at mts.net Fri Mar 20 16:48:35 2009 From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:48:35 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel nut size question In-Reply-To: <49C28585.1060606@RWMann.com> References: <49BD9DD4.10504@socal.rr.com><49C1EE2D.8090009@socal.rr.com> <001401c9a8a5$c14bcb90$43e362b0$@net><49C2832D.3020602@socal.rr.com> <49C28585.1060606@RWMann.com> Message-ID: <0F59852642C741BFB14431C38455B0EB@ctmPC> Yeah, the one that holds onto the wheel, not holds the wheel on! Don't confuse them. Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender 1972-510 Daisy 1972-510 Spare Change ----- Original Message ----- From: "RWM" To: "'Datsun Roadster List'" Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Steering wheel nut size question >I was going to say the nut behind the wheel comes in all sizes, shapes and >genders... > > > > Eddie wrote: >> Well that explains a few things! LOL >> >> Thanks guys! >> >> Eddie >> >> >> Gordon Glasgow wrote: >>> They're different: >>> >>> Early is 5/8" x 18 >>> Late is 16mm X 1.5 >>> >>> Gordon Glasgow >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net >>> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eddie >>> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:03 AM >>> To: Datsun Roadster List >>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Steering wheel nut size question >>> >>> Hey, >>> >>> No one responded to this question when I posed it earlier. >>> ANYONE? >>> Eddie wrote: >>> >>>> Here's a question: >>>> >>>> What size are the threads on the shaft of the collapsable steering >>>> column (late model) where the nut goes and holds the steering wheel on? >>>> What is the size for the early models? (The one's with the "death >>>> spear") >>>> >>> >>> Are they supposed to be the same? >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Eddie > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin at mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From aultgc at att.net Fri Mar 20 18:33:36 2009 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:33:36 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] lower a arms and spindle nut size References: <20090320162908.GQJWB.2958420.root@mp16> Message-ID: <3C4D390583F44A1BBD160066481EE5E9@gaxp1> Tim, I assume you are referring to the large bushings which thread onto the lower link spindles, and have the zirc fittings in them. If so, they're 1-3/8 inches. (They measure 1.32 across the flats, so an 1-3/8 socket will do fine.) Since these bushings are a press-type fit into the lower A-arms (they're pulled into place when the bush is threaded onto the spindles), so you'll probably need a torque wrench to get them off. Bubba, Are you out there? Please weigh in on this one. I've only been told heard how these are assembled/diassembled. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 3:29 PM Subject: [Roadsters] lower a arms and spindle nut size >I pulled the front suspension from one of my part cars with the intention >of cleaning, de-rusting, painting, etc the parts that can be re-used. Then >using them on my 1600 when I do that car's suspension this spring. > > Should I take the A-arms all the way apart to de-rust? Or should I leave > the spring mount plates attached and treat that as one part during this > process? > > What size is the nut on the lower spindles? I need to buy something big > enough to grab this nut. > > TIA!! > > Tim > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ronnie.day at gmail.com Sat Mar 21 11:03:20 2009 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:03:20 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Thread Size? Message-ID: <2faaebf80903211103r3314b21dh527e8a13bb58192c@mail.gmail.com> Okay, the new top is on. It looks and works great. Haven't put the tonneau on yet, but have a bunch of other things to do before the show in San Antonio in two weeks that'll be easier if I just pull the top off . One thing I need to do is get a couple of nuts for the top pivots. They were missing when I got the car. IIRC, they were acorn nuts and they look like some flavor of 1/4 with a fine thread. Are they 1/4-24? I can pull one of the brackets and take it to the hardware store with me but I thought I'd ask in case someone knows off the top of their head. -- Ron From Keith0alan at aol.com Sat Mar 21 11:09:41 2009 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:09:41 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Thread Size? Message-ID: They are SAE fine thread but I think it's 5/16". keith In a message dated 3/21/2009 11:07:27 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ronnie.day at gmail.com writes: Okay, the new top is on. It looks and works great. Haven't put the tonneau on yet, but have a bunch of other things to do before the show in San Antonio in two weeks that'll be easier if I just pull the top off . One thing I need to do is get a couple of nuts for the top pivots. They were missing when I got the car. IIRC, they were acorn nuts and they look like some flavor of 1/4 with a fine thread. Are they 1/4-24? I can pull one of the brackets and take it to the hardware store with me but I thought I'd ask in case someone knows off the top of their head. -- Ron You are subscribed as keith0alan at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220863691x1201421954/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DMarchfooterNO62) From aultgc at att.net Sat Mar 21 11:24:45 2009 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Thread Size? References: <2faaebf80903211103r3314b21dh527e8a13bb58192c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9569.9664.qm@web180204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Ronnie, Is it a low-winshield car? If so, they're 5/16-24. Your local hardware store is unlikely to have acorn nuts in that thread. You will find them at fastener shops on-line, but Menards has chrome 5/16-24 lock nuts with nylon inserts which look good until you can find the acorn nuts. (It so happens I was just there looking for 5/16-24 hex head bolts for a friend's horns, and noticed the lock nuts. They didn't have the bolts, though, si it took a stop at Sears Hardware.) Gary ________________________________ From: Ronnie Day To: Roadster List Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 1:03:20 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Thread Size? Okay, the new top is on. It looks and works great. Haven't put the tonneau on yet, but have a bunch of other things to do before the show in San Antonio in two weeks that'll be easier if I just pull the top off . One thing I need to do is get a couple of nuts for the top pivots. They were missing when I got the car. IIRC, they were acorn nuts and they look like some flavor of 1/4 with a fine thread. Are they 1/4-24? I can pull one of the brackets and take it to the hardware store with me but I thought I'd ask in case someone knows off the top of their head. -- Ron ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From drlsmith at dccnet.com Sat Mar 21 12:52:52 2009 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:52:52 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Spanish Banks, Vancouver, BC Message-ID: <2B05A53B51264B5DA273F359E285A99B@Daryl> All Japanese Classic on April 26th, 2009. Hope to see a few more cars this year..... http://the510realm.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=11401 Daryl http://www.311s.org/registry/1966/spl311-01605.html From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Sat Mar 21 13:30:32 2009 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (Peter Harrison) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:30:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Thread Size? References: <2faaebf80903211103r3314b21dh527e8a13bb58192c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Depending upon thecar - the 1970 actually only had regular nuts - NOT acorns ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronnie Day" To: "Roadster List" Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 11:03 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Thread Size? > Okay, the new top is on. It looks and works great. Haven't put the > tonneau on yet, but have a bunch of other things to do before the show > in San Antonio in two weeks that'll be easier if I just pull the top > off . One thing I need to do is get a couple of nuts for the top > pivots. They were missing when I got the car. IIRC, they were acorn > nuts and they look like some flavor of 1/4 with a fine thread. Are > they 1/4-24? I can pull one of the brackets and take it to the > hardware store with me but I thought I'd ask in case someone knows off > the top of their head. > > -- > Ron > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing at hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Sat Mar 21 13:43:29 2009 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (Peter Harrison) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:43:29 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Eliza dismantled Message-ID: A few questions and requests. Got the engine out and dismantled - amazingly there doesn't seem to be any significant damage - a small nick in the front bearing and laying the crank down against flat surfaces it appears that it is straight - though I will let a machine shop make the final determination. Question 1 Taking apart the engine i bought on craisglist - i noticed that there were additional aluminum 'nuts' (open) on top of the main nuts holding down the conrods - any thoughts as to whether i should add them to my engine?? and why are they there in the first place? Request 1 Need the u-shaped bracket that holds in the swaybar - it is quite badly dented and easier to replace rather than bang out Request 2 Need 2 castle nuts for the lower ball joints Hopefullly this will all be sorted by the end of April - working kinda gets in the way of playing BTW - for local socalrockers - i now have an engine hoist, a leveller and an engine stand for loan once eliza is put back together again. Happy motoring Peter From tputland at charter.net Sat Mar 21 13:58:23 2009 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:58:23 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Ongoing suspension issues--pay it forward??? Message-ID: <20090321165823.6CYDZ.3013351.root@mp17> I was able to dismantle the lower A-arm assemblies fairly easily once I had a socket that fit the bushing nuts and a four foot piece of pipe for leverage. As I started this process, I noticed that the REAR bar of one A-arm set up was bent--sure wish I had noticed this before I pulled it off the part car!! So, now I need one. Does any one have one of these parts that they would be willing to let go free or cheap? Also, it is ok to re-use a lower shock mount plate if the hole isn't 100% round? Since the shock itself has mounting washers, etc, can I re-use this mounting plate? Thanks Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning From garytew at cox.net Sat Mar 21 16:22:03 2009 From: garytew at cox.net (Gary tew) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:22:03 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please In-Reply-To: <542912.35142.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <542912.35142.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5F39EA96-9AC2-489B-B660-BE580A5B418C@cox.net> You had to throw out the Miata seat statement huh? Gary Tew Phoenix, AZ On Mar 18, 2009, at 1:29 PM, Gary McCormick wrote: > Could be worse - you could be putting Miata seats in it... > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > > --- On Wed, 3/18/09, Ed Mitchell wrote: > From: Ed Mitchell > Subject: [Roadsters] Interior Pics Please > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 1:17 PM > > Hi All...I've got a 1967.5 SPL311 1600 > > My exterior is Red...and Im going with a grey interior with Black > Cloth top > > Looking for some pictures of some of your interiors...and \ or web > sites > with interior pics > > I'm getting a custom job done...but I'm wanting to stay with an > "original > feel" > > I know...I Know...I'm modifying the original...and I may be kicked > off the > list for doing so... > > But if ya wanna make a small CASH donation...then you get to have > say in the > restore : ) jk > > Thanks for any ideas and direction > > > > Ed Mitchell > Las Cruces, NM > 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 > http://www.ziaroc.com/ > http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG <--Dead Betty : ) > You are subscribed as gkmcc at sbcglobal.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as garytew at cox.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From mltyler at mac.com Sat Mar 21 16:40:11 2009 From: mltyler at mac.com (Marc Tyler) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:40:11 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Thread Size? In-Reply-To: References: <2faaebf80903211103r3314b21dh527e8a13bb58192c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: My '70 1600 had acorn nuts when I got the car. Can't asolutely vouch for their being original to the car, but who can, really? 5/16-24 BTW On Mar 21, 2009, at 3:30 PM, Peter Harrison wrote: > Depending upon thecar - the 1970 actually only had regular nuts - > NOT acorns Marc Tyler mltyler at mac.com From tputland at charter.net Sat Mar 21 17:27:55 2009 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:27:55 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Thread Size? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090321202755.QTFD8.3016425.root@mp11> My Dad's 1600 had/has the acorns as well. Tim ---- Marc Tyler wrote: ============= My '70 1600 had acorn nuts when I got the car. Can't asolutely vouch for their being original to the car, but who can, really? 5/16-24 BTW On Mar 21, 2009, at 3:30 PM, Peter Harrison wrote: > Depending upon thecar - the 1970 actually only had regular nuts - > NOT acorns Marc Tyler mltyler at mac.com You are subscribed as tputland at charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From aultgc at att.net Sat Mar 21 18:07:54 2009 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:07:54 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Ongoing suspension issues--pay it forward??? References: <20090321165823.6CYDZ.3013351.root@mp17> Message-ID: <13C75FAC53A848DCA86CA4D0A0C904FA@gaxp1> Tim, Some aftermarket front shocks, like Konis, will not fit through the stock opening in the lower plate. When I bought the Konis for my car years ago, the recommended installation procedure was to carefully grind out the opening, being careful not to encroach on the three bolt holes, and insert the shocks that way. I conclude that a slightly out-of-round opening is not a problem. (By-the-way, I opted to carefully un-bolt the lower A-arms at the frame, and put the Konis in that way. Didn't even mess up the alignment settings.) Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 3:58 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Ongoing suspension issues--pay it forward??? >I was able to dismantle the lower A-arm assemblies fairly easily once I had >a socket that fit the bushing nuts and a four foot piece of pipe for >leverage. As I started this process, I noticed that the REAR bar of one >A-arm set up was bent--sure wish I had noticed this before I pulled it off >the part car!! So, now I need one. Does any one have one of these parts >that they would be willing to let go free or cheap? > > Also, it is ok to re-use a lower shock mount plate if the hole isn't 100% > round? Since the shock itself has mounting washers, etc, can I re-use this > mounting plate? > > Thanks > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From andycost at embarqmail.com Sun Mar 22 06:30:48 2009 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:30:48 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Trailer needs love too Message-ID: I spend almost all my free time working on my race car. Yesterday I spent all day yesterday working on the trailer. It now has new lights so I won't get pulled over any more. I rewired the battery and brakes. I moved the spare tire onto the tongue. I had to cut the spare tire mount off and weld it on the tongue. I really didn't like the tire where it was on the side og the trailer because it was always in the way when trying to tie down stuff or work on the car while it was on the trailer. It also blocked the view of the race car. I can't have that. The old trailer is in rough shape but it will make a few more years. Andy From eddietude at socal.rr.com Sun Mar 22 15:40:21 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:40:21 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Ongoing suspension issues--pay it forward??? In-Reply-To: <20090321165823.6CYDZ.3013351.root@mp17> References: <20090321165823.6CYDZ.3013351.root@mp17> Message-ID: <49C6BE55.2000705@socal.rr.com> Tim, If you're talking about the lower a-arm shaft that the bushings screw into, you need a very large impact wrench to get those off. A long pipe and socket won't usually do it. Those things are HARD to get off... Impact wrench is the only way to go... Also, if the threads on that shaft are damaged, you can get a brand new aftermarket one from Rare Parts. That was the part I had made awhile back, and I'm sure they have them still... Eddie Tim wrote: > I was able to dismantle the lower A-arm assemblies fairly easily once I had a socket that fit the bushing nuts and a four foot piece of pipe for leverage. As I started this process, I noticed that the REAR bar of one A-arm set up was bent--sure wish I had noticed this before I pulled it off the part car!! So, now I need one. Does any one have one of these parts that they would be willing to let go free or cheap? > > Also, it is ok to re-use a lower shock mount plate if the hole isn't 100% round? Since the shock itself has mounting washers, etc, can I re-use this mounting plate? > > Thanks > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Sun Mar 22 17:03:27 2009 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (Peter Harrison) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:03:27 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Ongoing suspension issues--pay it forward??? References: <20090321165823.6CYDZ.3013351.root@mp17> <49C6BE55.2000705@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Having just done the exact same thing - I have found the following to work Using the appropriate size socket, and in my case a torque wrench, because of it's length, I just positioned it so that the wrench was laying on the ground and then I stood on the a-Arm - took some time, but off it came. FWIW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" To: "Tim" Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ongoing suspension issues--pay it forward??? > Tim, > > If you're talking about the lower a-arm shaft that the bushings screw > into, you need a very large impact wrench to get those off. A long pipe > and socket won't usually do it. Those things are HARD to get off... > Impact wrench is the only way to go... > Also, if the threads on that shaft are damaged, you can get a brand new > aftermarket one from Rare Parts. That was the part I had made awhile > back, and I'm sure they have them still... > > Eddie > > > > Tim wrote: >> I was able to dismantle the lower A-arm assemblies fairly easily once I >> had a socket that fit the bushing nuts and a four foot piece of pipe for >> leverage. As I started this process, I noticed that the REAR bar of one >> A-arm set up was bent--sure wish I had noticed this before I pulled it >> off the part car!! So, now I need one. Does any one have one of these >> parts that they would be willing to let go free or cheap? >> >> Also, it is ok to re-use a lower shock mount plate if the hole isn't 100% >> round? Since the shock itself has mounting washers, etc, can I re-use >> this mounting plate? >> >> Thanks >> >> Tim >> Belleville, WI. >> '70 SPL AND SRL >> Still clueless but always learning >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing at hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From boakes at gmail.com Sun Mar 22 17:11:53 2009 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:11:53 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Rescue mission completed Message-ID: <3ad057d60903221711t6f8d780co6f5be10de175d0ba@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, I probably paid too much, but I picked up that black '68 2000 in the Chicago south suburbs. The story checked out, 43K original miles, been out of service since 1973 (pulled the '73 plate off when I picked it up). It's rough, bottom of body in bad shape, but the frame, floor boards and most of the rest of the body is salvageable. The important part, everything is there. Every button, knob, piece of glass, interior panel, everything. Perfect "model" for completing my red '68 2000, and then I really think this one will becoming a nice long term restoration. Have I told you how considerate and patient my wife is???? http://picasaweb.google.com/boakes/RoadsterBlack# -bill From jake7140 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 22 18:58:56 2009 From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:58:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Trailer needs love too Message-ID: <900997.41500.qm@web37907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yep, more stuff begets more stuff, requiring more time. Where can we see a photo of the race car now that you can take a clean shot?? Steve Steve's Racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society www.elrss.com Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:30:48 -0500 From: "Andy Cost" Subject: [Roadsters] Trailer needs love too To: "Roadster List" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I spend almost all my free time working on my race car. Yesterday I spent all day yesterday working on the trailer. It now has new lights so I won't get pulled over any more. I rewired the battery and brakes. I moved the spare tire onto the tongue. I had to cut the spare tire mount off and weld it on the tongue. I really didn't like the tire where it was on the side og the trailer because it was always in the way when trying to tie down stuff or work on the car while it was on the trailer. It also blocked the view of the race car. I can't have that. The old trailer is in rough shape but it will make a few more years. Andy ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters mailing list Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters End of Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 110 ************************************************ From sumton at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 22 19:36:46 2009 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:36:46 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Rescue mission completed References: <3ad057d60903221711t6f8d780co6f5be10de175d0ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000b01c9ab60$40de9970$6515a8c0@ranteer.local> perhaps a good time for all of us to thank our wives/significant others/kids . . . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Oakes" To: Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 7:11 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Rescue mission completed > Yeah, I probably paid too much, but I picked up that black '68 2000 in the > Chicago south suburbs. The story checked out, 43K original miles, been out > of service since 1973 (pulled the '73 plate off when I picked it up). It's > rough, bottom of body in bad shape, but the frame, floor boards and most > of > the rest of the body is salvageable. > > The important part, everything is there. Every button, knob, piece of > glass, > interior panel, everything. Perfect "model" for completing my red '68 > 2000, > and then I really think this one will becoming a nice long term > restoration. > > > Have I told you how considerate and patient my wife is???? > > http://picasaweb.google.com/boakes/RoadsterBlack# > > -bill From andycost at embarqmail.com Sun Mar 22 20:06:15 2009 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:06:15 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Trailer needs love too In-Reply-To: <900997.41500.qm@web37907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: http://community.webshots.com/user/nomadtrash From tputland at charter.net Mon Mar 23 03:44:55 2009 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 3:44:55 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Ongoing suspension issues--pay it forward??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090323064455.Y3YLY.3064183.root@mp12> I am talking about the REAR bar of the A-arm assembly. Not a spindle. I was able to remove the lower spindle bushing nuts relatively easy. (But being 6'5" and almost 300 pounds provides ample leverage.) Do you have a rear A-arm assembly part? Tim ---- Peter Harrison wrote: ============= Having just done the exact same thing - I have found the following to work Using the appropriate size socket, and in my case a torque wrench, because of it's length, I just positioned it so that the wrench was laying on the ground and then I stood on the a-Arm - took some time, but off it came. FWIW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" To: "Tim" Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ongoing suspension issues--pay it forward??? > Tim, > > If you're talking about the lower a-arm shaft that the bushings screw > into, you need a very large impact wrench to get those off. A long pipe > and socket won't usually do it. Those things are HARD to get off... > Impact wrench is the only way to go... > Also, if the threads on that shaft are damaged, you can get a brand new > aftermarket one from Rare Parts. That was the part I had made awhile > back, and I'm sure they have them still... > > Eddie > > > > Tim wrote: >> I was able to dismantle the lower A-arm assemblies fairly easily once I >> had a socket that fit the bushing nuts and a four foot piece of pipe for >> leverage. As I started this process, I noticed that the REAR bar of one >> A-arm set up was bent--sure wish I had noticed this before I pulled it >> off the part car!! So, now I need one. Does any one have one of these >> parts that they would be willing to let go free or cheap? >> >> Also, it is ok to re-use a lower shock mount plate if the hole isn't 100% >> round? Since the shock itself has mounting washers, etc, can I re-use >> this mounting plate? >> >> Thanks >> >> Tim >> Belleville, WI. >> '70 SPL AND SRL >> Still clueless but always learning >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing at hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as tputland at charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From jeffzster at yahoo.com Mon Mar 23 10:11:43 2009 From: jeffzster at yahoo.com (Jeff Torres) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:11:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang's a comin' Up!!!! Message-ID: <198279.7006.qm@web110408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hey All, As of this mornings update, we now have 29 registered....There are a lot of Solvang Regulars still not registered..If you haven't yet..please do so soon..the April 11th pre-reg date is fastly approaching. That is the date we order all shirts and clothing etc...Unfortunately we will not be able to have many extras at the show. Any that we do have go fast! Register now and make sure you get some cool stuff. Remember only 32 days left until the show!!! WWW.SOLVANGSHOW.COM 32 DAYS LEFT!!! From funkaholik at yahoo.com Mon Mar 23 11:26:57 2009 From: funkaholik at yahoo.com (funkaholik at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:26:57 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Torque wrench Message-ID: "Using the appropriate size socket, and in my case a torque wrench, because of it's length, I just positioned it so that the wrench was laying on the ground and then I stood on the a-Arm " This is also the most effective way to un-calibrate your torque wrench. Which will be unfortunate the next time you want to torque something accurately to specs. Seriously - that's what breaker bars are for. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From tputland at charter.net Mon Mar 23 11:33:41 2009 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:33:41 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Torque wrench In-Reply-To: <20090323192624.151651878C1@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <20090323143341.4YAAQ.3099135.root@mp16> This is why I used a length of pipe on my heaviest socket wrench. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- funkaholik at yahoo.com wrote: ============= "Using the appropriate size socket, and in my case a torque wrench, because of it's length, I just positioned it so that the wrench was laying on the ground and then I stood on the a-Arm " This is also the most effective way to un-calibrate your torque wrench. Which will be unfortunate the next time you want to torque something accurately to specs. Seriously - that's what breaker bars are for. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry You are subscribed as tputland at charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ljordan704 at netscape.net Mon Mar 23 11:36:55 2009 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:36:55 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Torque wrench In-Reply-To: <20090323143341.4YAAQ.3099135.root@mp16> Message-ID: <8CB79FD7A05D714-1040-10D3@FWM-D45.sysops.aol.com> Could an impact wrench work or not likely? Linda -----Original Message----- From: Tim To: funkaholik at yahoo.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:33 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Torque wrench This is why I used a length of pipe on my heaviest socket wrench. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- funkaholik at yahoo.com wrote: ============= "Using the appropriate size socket, and in my case a torque wrench, because of it's length, I just positioned it so that the wrench was laying on the ground and then I stood on the a-Arm " This is also the most effective way to un-calibrate your torque wrench. Which will be unfortunate the next time you want to torque something accurately to specs. Seriously - that's what breaker bars are for. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry You are subscribed as tputland at charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From larrybraddock at ca.rr.com Mon Mar 23 11:45:36 2009 From: larrybraddock at ca.rr.com (Larry Braddock) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:45:36 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] impact wrench Message-ID: <5AA2A9F7B65D4722A5434D6376BABA14@owner4d7e0adce> If you don't have an impact wrench you can put as much pressure as you can on the socket wrench and then tap on the socket with a hammer, or get someone else to. I was taking lug nuts off an old parts car, and after breaking 2 studs an old school guy showed me this trick. We got the rest off with no problem. Larry Braddock From hallosb at juno.com Mon Mar 23 12:19:25 2009 From: hallosb at juno.com (hallosb at juno.com) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:19:25 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] impact wrench / torque wrench Message-ID: <20090323.121925.25198.0@webmail09.vgs.untd.com> Impact wrenches work great but, not everyone has an air compressor and some bolts are inaccessible. The original post was dead on. Use a breaker bar. You can ruin a good torque wrench or racheting socket wrench trying to loosen stubborn bolts. It's really hard on the racheting mechanism. And when the breaker bar can't do the job on its own... Resort to the simple laws of physics and increase your moment arm by sliding a section of pipe around your breaker bar. ____________________________________________________________ Click here to save cash and find low rates on auto loans. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsJ2paddFB9z2O3LLIir3MLTLkrZ mdxyBbSjZDOdM32QNk1FO9L1C4/ From ljordan704 at netscape.net Mon Mar 23 12:41:57 2009 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:41:57 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] impact wrench / torque wrench In-Reply-To: <20090323.121925.25198.0@webmail09.vgs.untd.com> References: <20090323.121925.25198.0@webmail09.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <8CB7A068FC61028-1040-14DE@FWM-D45.sysops.aol.com> I was thinking of the impact wrench that you hit with a hammer, no compressor needed. Is that the correct name for the tool? Linda -----Original Message----- From: hallosb at juno.com To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:19 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] impact wrench / torque wrench Impact wrenches work great but, not everyone has an air compressor and some bolts are inaccessible. The original post was dead on. Use a breaker bar. You can ruin a good torque wrench or racheting socket wrench trying to loosen stubborn bolts. It's really hard on the racheting mechanism. And when the breaker bar can't do the job on its own... Resort to the simple laws of physics and increase your moment arm by sliding a section of pipe around your breaker bar. ____________________________________________________________ Click here to save cash and find low rates on auto loans. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsJ2paddFB9z2O3LLIir3MLTLkrZ mdxyBbSjZDOdM32QNk1FO9L1C4/ You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 23 12:48:54 2009 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] impact wrench / torque wrench In-Reply-To: <8CB7A068FC61028-1040-14DE@FWM-D45.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <305483.20123.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Those are usually for screws and small fasteners - at least, that's the size I've seen and used in the past. Great for getting those stubborn Phillips head sidecase screws off of a motorcycle engine before you replace them with hex socket head capscrews! http://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/000723.php Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Mon, 3/23/09, ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: From: ljordan704 at netscape.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] impact wrench / torque wrench To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 12:41 PM I was thinking of the impact wrench that you hit with a hammer, no compressor needed. Is that the correct name for the tool? Linda -----Original Message----- From: hallosb at juno.com To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:19 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] impact wrench / torque wrench Impact wrenches work great but, not everyone has an air compressor and some bolts are inaccessible. The original post was dead on. Use a breaker bar. You can ruin a good torque wrench or racheting socket wrench trying to loosen stubborn bolts. It's really hard on the racheting mechanism. And when the breaker bar can't do the job on its own... Resort to the simple laws of physics and increase your moment arm by sliding a section of pipe around your breaker bar. ____________________________________________________________ Click here to save cash and find low rates on auto loans. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsJ2paddFB9z2O3LLIir3MLTLkrZ mdxyBbSjZDOdM32QNk1FO9L1C4/ You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From francis67datsun at yahoo.com Mon Mar 23 14:56:52 2009 From: francis67datsun at yahoo.com (Francis Anand) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:56:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] help wanted volvo brake conversion Message-ID: <729458.81685.qm@web55306.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Hey guys i need help . I did a volvo brake conversion on 70 roadster.I used 311 site for info. Used original new brake master cylinder .Now the problem is the brake is hanging on me. Both the front wheels gets hot and locks doesnt turn. We took all air bubble out . I bled rear rt first rear left front rt front lt.. The front caliper i did top inside , bottom inside ,and then outside. Also tried doing reverse method left front right front left rear right rear . Is there something that i am doing wrong? From garytew at cox.net Mon Mar 23 15:09:32 2009 From: garytew at cox.net (garytew at cox.net) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:09:32 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] help wanted volvo brake conversion In-Reply-To: <729458.81685.qm@web55306.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090323180932.V2O6R.269997.imail@fed1rmwml31> I had the same problem with my swap. It wound up being a bad master cylinder. I swapped it out and had no further problems. Also make sure your rotors aren't rubbing on the caliper. I had my rotors diameter trimmed down but stil had some rubbing on the caliper. Took a die grinder to the caliper and smoothed the rubbing area a bit to free it up. Hope this helps. Gary Tew Phoenix, AZ 67 1600 w/VG30 swap www.members.cox.net/garytew ---- Francis Anand wrote: > Hey guys i need help . I did a volvo brake conversion on 70 roadster.I used > 311 site for info. Used original new brake master cylinder .Now the problem is > the brake is hanging on me. > Both the front wheels gets hot and locks doesnt turn. We took all air > bubble out . I bled rear rt first rear left front rt front lt.. The > front caliper i did top inside , bottom inside ,and then outside. Also > tried doing reverse method left front right front left rear right > rear . Is there something that i am doing wrong? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as garytew at cox.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From pat at hornesystemstx.com Mon Mar 23 15:54:54 2009 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:54:54 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] help wanted volvo brake conversion In-Reply-To: <729458.81685.qm@web55306.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <729458.81685.qm@web55306.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49C8133E.7060405@hornesystemstx.com> Gary is probably correct, but it could be that the break pedal linkage is too long, not allowing the master cylinder piston enough room to uncover the bleed hole in the cylinder. When the break fluid heats up it expands, which, if the bleed hole is covered, will slowly apply the breaks. Let them cool off and things work fine again. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Francis Anand, On 3/23/2009 4:56 PM: > Hey guys i need help . I did a volvo brake conversion on 70 roadster.I used > 311 site for info. Used original new brake master cylinder .Now the problem is > the brake is hanging on me. > Both the front wheels gets hot and locks doesnt turn. We took all air > bubble out . I bled rear rt first rear left front rt front lt.. The > front caliper i did top inside , bottom inside ,and then outside. Also > tried doing reverse method left front right front left rear right > rear . Is there something that i am doing wrong? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.24/2018 - Release Date: 03/23/09 06:52:00 > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 23 16:16:55 2009 From: oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com (Matthew Cox) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] impact wrench / torque wrench Message-ID: <656378.65603.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Also great for removing the invariably stripped and frozen philips screws that retain the drum brakes on our Datsuns. --- On Mon, 3/23/09, Gary McCormick wrote: From: Gary McCormick Subject: Re: [Roadsters] impact wrench / torque wrench To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net, ljordan704 at netscape.net Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 12:48 PM Those are usually for screws and small fasteners - at least, that's the size I've seen and used in the past. Great for getting those stubborn Phillips head sidecase screws off of a motorcycle engine before you replace them with hex socket head capscrews! http://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/000723.php Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Mon, 3/23/09, ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: From: ljordan704 at netscape.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] impact wrench / torque wrench To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 12:41 PM I was thinking of the impact wrench that you hit with a hammer, no compressor needed. Is that the correct name for the tool? Linda -----Original Message----- From: hallosb at juno.com To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:19 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] impact wrench / torque wrench Impact wrenches work great but, not everyone has an air compressor and some bolts are inaccessible. The original post was dead on. Use a breaker bar. You can ruin a good torque wrench or racheting socket wrench trying to loosen stubborn bolts. It's really hard on the racheting mechanism. And when the breaker bar can't do the job on its own... Resort to the simple laws of physics and increase your moment arm by sliding a section of pipe around your breaker bar. ____________________________________________________________ Click here to save cash and find low rates on auto loans. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsJ2paddFB9z2O3LLIir3MLTLkrZ mdxyBbSjZDOdM32QNk1FO9L1C4/ You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From aultgc at att.net Mon Mar 23 18:30:04 2009 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:30:04 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] impact wrench References: <5AA2A9F7B65D4722A5434D6376BABA14@owner4d7e0adce> Message-ID: <8CA011913AC8447782512C9928671CB8@gaxp1> Larry, In the trades, there is a type of wrench which is referred to as a "sluggin'" wrench, because it is designed to be snugged up, pressure put on the bolt or nut, and struck with a BFH. I've seen them used on steam locomotives, but probably also on large bolts/nuts in other industries. Conclusion: Your suggestion is a good one, just don't overdue the hammer part with a conventional socket. Good way to crack one. Impact socket is better. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Braddock" To: Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:45 PM Subject: [Roadsters] impact wrench > If you don't have an impact wrench you can put as much pressure as you can > on > the socket wrench and then tap on the socket with a hammer, or get someone > else to. I was taking lug nuts off an old parts car, and after breaking 2 > studs an old school guy showed me this trick. We got the rest off with no > problem. > > Larry Braddock > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From aultgc at att.net Mon Mar 23 18:34:01 2009 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:34:01 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] impact wrench / torque wrench References: <305483.20123.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: An impact screwdriver. Not often used, but when needed, indispensible. I have a basically new one in my toolbox -- one of those things I saw in a hardware store one day and said "I'll bet that will be useful sometime". Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary McCormick" To: ; Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] impact wrench / torque wrench > Those are usually for screws and small fasteners - at least, that's the > size I've seen and used in the past. Great for getting those stubborn > Phillips head sidecase screws off of a motorcycle engine before you > replace them with hex socket head capscrews! > > http://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/000723.php > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > > --- On Mon, 3/23/09, ljordan704 at netscape.net > wrote: > From: ljordan704 at netscape.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] impact wrench / torque wrench > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 12:41 PM > > I was thinking of the impact wrench that you hit with a hammer, no > compressor > needed. Is that the correct name for the tool? > > Linda > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: hallosb at juno.com > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:19 pm > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] impact wrench / torque wrench > > > > > > > > > > > Impact wrenches work great but, not everyone has an air compressor and > some > bolts are inaccessible. The original post was dead on. Use a breaker bar. > You > can ruin a good torque wrench or racheting socket wrench trying to loosen > stubborn bolts. It's really hard on the racheting mechanism. > And when the breaker bar can't do the job on its own... Resort to the > simple > laws of physics and increase your moment arm by sliding a section of pipe > around your breaker bar. > ____________________________________________________________ > Click here to save cash and find low rates on auto loans. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsJ2paddFB9z2O3LLIir3MLTLkrZ > mdxyBbSjZDOdM32QNk1FO9L1C4/ > You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > You are subscribed as gkmcc at sbcglobal.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From aultgc at att.net Mon Mar 23 18:48:56 2009 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:48:56 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Torque wrench References: <20090323192602.E7C2518789E@autox.team.net> Message-ID: What he said. A torque wrench should never be used for any task except tightening fasteners to a desired torque value. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:26 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Torque wrench > "Using the appropriate size socket, and in my case a torque wrench, > because > of it's length, I just positioned it so that the wrench was laying on the > ground and then I stood on the a-Arm " > > This is also the most effective way to un-calibrate your torque wrench. > Which will be unfortunate the next time you want to torque something > accurately to specs. Seriously - that's what breaker bars are for. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ljordan704 at netscape.net Mon Mar 23 20:00:35 2009 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:00:35 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] impact wrench In-Reply-To: <8CA011913AC8447782512C9928671CB8@gaxp1> References: <5AA2A9F7B65D4722A5434D6376BABA14@owner4d7e0adce> <8CA011913AC8447782512C9928671CB8@gaxp1> Message-ID: <8CB7A43D6AC0DFC-D68-153C@WEBMAIL-MY14.sysops.aol.com> I saw an impact wrench at Harbor Freight for 4.99....so I bought it. LOL Undoubtedly pretty crummy , but may work for small stuff. --- Linda ? From gcuthber at telus.net Mon Mar 23 21:40:41 2009 From: gcuthber at telus.net (Garth Cuthbert) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:40:41 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] U20 Flywheel Message-ID: <00b601c9ac3a$b04ac2e0$10e048a0$@net> I am rebuild my U20 and discovered its current flywheel is a non-stock 225 mm unit. I'd like to restore it with a standard U20 flywheel. Does anyone have one in ready to install condition or close to it. Thanks Garth Cuthbert From boakes at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 08:35:14 2009 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:35:14 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] U20 Flywheel In-Reply-To: <00b601c9ac3a$b04ac2e0$10e048a0$@net> References: <00b601c9ac3a$b04ac2e0$10e048a0$@net> Message-ID: <3ad057d60903240835p5af4d8e5h20833e8776ed885@mail.gmail.com> Speaking of flywheels - before I forget and finally get to that point of re-installing the engine - where can I get the bolts for the flywheel? I had to break one off when I pulled it off. thanks Bill Oakes Libertyville, IL (2) 68 2000's On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Garth Cuthbert wrote: > I am rebuild my U20 and discovered its current flywheel is a non-stock 225 > mm unit. I'd like to restore it with a standard U20 flywheel. > > Does anyone have one in ready to install condition or close to it. > > > > Thanks > > > > Garth Cuthbert > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as boakes at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From boakes at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 08:41:59 2009 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:41:59 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] stuck drums Message-ID: <3ad057d60903240841j3d9c1c8bi5e751832c1ce4034@mail.gmail.com> Project #1 for the newly acquired black '68 2000 is to get it rolling easier, so, I tried to pull off the drums so the rear wheels would move better. Ugh. I've tried every trick I know, from soaking everything in Kroil (great stuff), to tapping all around with a rubber mallet, to a hammer, finally pulling off the whole hub assembly and taking them out with the axles (half-axles?). I released the wheel cylinder, and the adjuster screw (?) at the top of the drum. They barely move, but definitely not coming off. help? From eddietude at socal.rr.com Tue Mar 24 09:00:34 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:00:34 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] stuck drums In-Reply-To: <3ad057d60903240841j3d9c1c8bi5e751832c1ce4034@mail.gmail.com> References: <3ad057d60903240841j3d9c1c8bi5e751832c1ce4034@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49C903A2.1090502@socal.rr.com> Bill, Are you saying the AXLE has been removed from the rear end but the drum is still stuck to it? Honestly, from the pictures you posted earlier, it looks like that car was left to rust. My guess is that drum is rusted to the axle. You can try the molasses trick... or some other rust removal process... Eddie Bill Oakes wrote: > Project #1 for the newly acquired black '68 2000 is to get it rolling > easier, so, I tried to pull off the drums so the rear wheels would move > better. Ugh. > > I've tried every trick I know, from soaking everything in Kroil (great > stuff), to tapping all around with a rubber mallet, to a hammer, finally > pulling off the whole hub assembly and taking them out with the axles > (half-axles?). > > I released the wheel cylinder, and the adjuster screw (?) at the top of the > drum. They barely move, but definitely not coming off. > > help? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From boakes at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 09:23:48 2009 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:23:48 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] stuck drums In-Reply-To: <49C903A2.1090502@socal.rr.com> References: <3ad057d60903240841j3d9c1c8bi5e751832c1ce4034@mail.gmail.com> <49C903A2.1090502@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <3ad057d60903240923y296afc91n9cf9dbbb3f716b78@mail.gmail.com> Yep, should have taken pix, but the two axles are sticking up in the air, with the hub/drum assembly sitting on the bench. I think what's really holding everything tight is the rust around the stub bolts. Last resort is to take it to the nearby service station and try heating them up. On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Eddie wrote: > Bill, > > Are you saying the AXLE has been removed from the rear end but the drum is > still stuck to it? > > Honestly, from the pictures you posted earlier, it looks like that car was > left to rust. My guess is that drum is rusted to the axle. > > You can try the molasses trick... or some other rust removal process... > > Eddie > > Bill Oakes wrote: > >> Project #1 for the newly acquired black '68 2000 is to get it rolling >> easier, so, I tried to pull off the drums so the rear wheels would move >> better. Ugh. >> >> I've tried every trick I know, from soaking everything in Kroil (great >> stuff), to tapping all around with a rubber mallet, to a hammer, finally >> pulling off the whole hub assembly and taking them out with the axles >> (half-axles?). >> >> I released the wheel cylinder, and the adjuster screw (?) at the top of >> the >> drum. They barely move, but definitely not coming off. >> >> help? >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From tasker1968 at comcast.net Tue Mar 24 09:57:30 2009 From: tasker1968 at comcast.net (Owen) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:57:30 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] SR20DE swap Message-ID: <000601c9aca1$9efaabb0$6700a8c0@Omar> Help needed for SR20DE S14 swap, I've had my 68' 2000 since 72', the third owner and the old U20 was in need of a rebuild, I bought the S14 about 5 years ago, so now was a good time for a swap. I found a few of the swaps on line but still need more info. Does anyone have a part # for the 12 circuit wiring kit or just get a universal one? Does the long double row plug on the wiring harness plug into 12 circuit wiring kit or is there something else I need to get? Where to cut or drill holes in the firewall for wiring harness? Where to mount the computer and 12 circuit? What is the normal temature range for the SR20, I need to get the electric fan tempature sensor, has anyone ever tried the adjustable ones with the probe that goes between the fins in the radiator? Where should the 280Z electric fuel pump be mounted, near the tank or closer to motor? Filter before the pump? Remove brake metering block and go from master to a tee, then to the cylinders? What size is the 45 degree and the 90 degree 2 1/2" elbows or 3" (for the air intake) ? they don't make a 2 3/4" do they? I'm also in need of a MAF # 22680-52F01, I've been looking on ebay but haven't seen one for awhile, so if anyone has one for sale let me know. How about a Datsun Roadster/SR20DE swap book for dummies.Thanks in advance for your time and help, Owen. From aultgc at att.net Tue Mar 24 10:25:08 2009 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] stuck drums References: <3ad057d60903240841j3d9c1c8bi5e751832c1ce4034@mail.gmail.com> <49C903A2.1090502@socal.rr.com> <3ad057d60903240923y296afc91n9cf9dbbb3f716b78@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <72663.72223.qm@web180204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Bill, I presume the drums are finned aluminum? If so, corrosion between the studs and the drum and/or between the drum and the axle at the center hole can make removal very difficult. It doesn't take much corrosion, either. You can try a drum puller. Tension it and then tap the drum with a heavy plastic mallet. If the puller loosens up a bit, it means the drum moved. Repeat as necessary. Be careful not to apply to much tension force -- you can break the drum. Since the corrosion will be aluminum oxide, there may be some solution you can put on them drums around the studs and center hole to dissolve it. I don't know what solution would work, though. Gary ________________________________ From: Bill Oakes To: Eddie Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 11:23:48 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stuck drums Yep, should have taken pix, but the two axles are sticking up in the air, with the hub/drum assembly sitting on the bench. I think what's really holding everything tight is the rust around the stub bolts. Last resort is to take it to the nearby service station and try heating them up. On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Eddie wrote: > Bill, > > Are you saying the AXLE has been removed from the rear end but the drum is > still stuck to it? > > Honestly, from the pictures you posted earlier, it looks like that car was > left to rust. My guess is that drum is rusted to the axle. > > You can try the molasses trick... or some other rust removal process... > > Eddie > > Bill Oakes wrote: > >> Project #1 for the newly acquired black '68 2000 is to get it rolling >> easier, so, I tried to pull off the drums so the rear wheels would move >> better. Ugh. >> >> I've tried every trick I know, from soaking everything in Kroil (great >> stuff), to tapping all around with a rubber mallet, to a hammer, finally >> pulling off the whole hub assembly and taking them out with the axles >> (half-axles?). >> >> I released the wheel cylinder, and the adjuster screw (?) at the top of >> the >> drum. They barely move, but definitely not coming off. >> >> help? >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From michaelspreadbury at comcast.net Tue Mar 24 10:43:56 2009 From: michaelspreadbury at comcast.net (michaelspreadbury at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:43:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] SR20DE swap In-Reply-To: <000601c9aca1$9efaabb0$6700a8c0@Omar> Message-ID: <425350510.690491237916636750.JavaMail.root@sz0106a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Owen wrote:>I found a few of the swaps on line but still need more info. I would highly recommend reading the dozens of threads on SR swaps on www.311s.org in the forums in the engine swap section. 99% of your questions that you ask below have been discussed in great detail. >Does anyone have a part # for the 12 circuit wiring kit or just get a universal one? Search bEZ wiring harnessb on www.311s.org forum as this has been discussed many times there. >Does the long double row plug on the wiring harness plug into 12 circuit wiring kit or is there >something else I need to get? No, the double row that ties the EFI harness to the dash harness does not fit the universal wiring harness. I would recommend cutting off that plug and building new plugs that suit your swap using connectors from www.vintageconnections.com or www.datsunparts.com >Where to cut or drill holes in the firewall for wiring harness? We use a 90 degree harness grommet from a Nissan Sentra and cut the hole right below the throttle linkage, but I have seen people put there holes in a variety of places, you really need to decide what works best for your application. >Where to mount the computer and 12 circuit? We mount the ECU on the passenger side kick panel. The aftermarket fuse box gets mounted above the hood release cable handle on the driverbs side. Again, photos of this stuff is on www.311s.org in the engine swap section. >What is the normal temature range for the SR20, I need to get the electric fan tempature sensor, has anyone ever tried the adjustable ones with the probe that goes between the fins in the radiator? Order part number 21503-40F65 from Nissan. It is a 240SX lower radiator hose that has a built in fan switch that will operate your fan correctly. You can get more details on this by reading this thread: http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=7326 >Where should the 280Z electric fuel pump be mounted, near the tank or closer to motor? Filter >before the pump? I would highly recommend on installing an in-tank fuel pump from a Honda instead of running an external pump. Again, this has been discussed many times on 311s.org. >Remove brake metering block and go from master to a tee, then to the cylinders? There are some great photos of how we build brake lines in this thread here: http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=8800&p=59887#p59887 Get the T-fitting from a Toyota Tercel (it is located on the Passenger side of the firewall in the engine compartment!) >What size is the 45 degree and the 90 degree 2 1/2" elbows or 3" (for the air intake) 2.75b is the size of the intake, but you can use 2.5b pipe and step the hose up to 2.75 at the throttle body. I would spend a couple days reading everything you can on 311s.org as your questions are common and we have covered them many times. Let me know if you have any others. Michael SpreadburySpriso Motorsports From chalsted at comcast.net Tue Mar 24 10:49:18 2009 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:49:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] stuck drums In-Reply-To: <72663.72223.qm@web180204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <150465045.819511237916958100.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I've found for the most part that the shoes stick tightly to the inside of the drum... usually what I do is back off all the way on the adjuster if possible and then remove the 2 nuts holding the adjuster in place and with a hammer bang the center of the adjuster until it pops inside the drum... that should help... then try to get a flat blade screwdriver or cold chisel between the drum and hub in the center and go side to side trying to gain space between the two. hope that makes sense...have loosened up at least a couple of them that way thru the years... ;-) Craig From gsglasgow at comcast.net Tue Mar 24 12:12:34 2009 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:12:34 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] stuck drums In-Reply-To: <3ad057d60903240841j3d9c1c8bi5e751832c1ce4034@mail.gmail.com> References: <3ad057d60903240841j3d9c1c8bi5e751832c1ce4034@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001401c9acb4$7d7ffb80$787ff280$@net> I ran into this a number of years ago and couldn't get it unstuck. Then a friend suggested standing the axle on end (drum down, of course) and pouring some liquid between the drum and backing plate. After marinating for a day or two, smacking the axle straight down on the studs popped the drum right off. Unfortunately I can't remember what the liquid was. I keep thinking it was ammonia, but I'm not sure. I've sent my friend an email asking him what it was. When I get a reply, I'll let you know. Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Oakes Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 8:42 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] stuck drums Project #1 for the newly acquired black '68 2000 is to get it rolling easier, so, I tried to pull off the drums so the rear wheels would move better. Ugh. I've tried every trick I know, from soaking everything in Kroil (great stuff), to tapping all around with a rubber mallet, to a hammer, finally pulling off the whole hub assembly and taking them out with the axles (half-axles?). I released the wheel cylinder, and the adjuster screw (?) at the top of the drum. They barely move, but definitely not coming off. help? Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From andycost at embarqmail.com Tue Mar 24 12:13:05 2009 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Embarq Customer) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:13:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] stuck drums In-Reply-To: <14734802.14832171237921886528.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com> Message-ID: <919039503.14832541237921985036.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com> I've had a few jambed drums before. You are being too nice to it. A 10 pound drum separating tool works quite well with the proper technique. Andy From sumton at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 24 12:50:57 2009 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:50:57 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 roadster wiring question Message-ID: <000601c9acb9$dae4ba40$6515a8c0@ranteer.local> on that car, there is a white wire going from the alternator to the fuse box. anyone know what gage its supposed to be? and is the same gage used to go from the fues box to the ammeter, or is it smaller (in size; larger in gage)? thanks! From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Mar 24 12:56:54 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:56:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 roadster wiring question In-Reply-To: <000601c9acb9$dae4ba40$6515a8c0@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <509189055.757361237924614413.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Those are the main power. I'm guessing the stock ones were (maybe) 18AWG. Personally, I'd replace 'em with quality auto-grade (not the crap at your local FLAPS) 12AWG. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "oliver" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 12:50:57 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 roadster wiring question on that car, there is a white wire going from the alternator to the fuse box. anyone know what gage its supposed to be? and is the same gage used to go from the fues box to the ammeter, or is it smaller (in size; larger in gage)? thanks! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From boakes at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 13:09:03 2009 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:09:03 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] stuck drums In-Reply-To: <919039503.14832541237921985036.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com> References: <14734802.14832171237921886528.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com> <919039503.14832541237921985036.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com> Message-ID: <3ad057d60903241309h21bf71abj1beb20a9f6f9e09b@mail.gmail.com> Thanks all, some good ideas. It's marinating this week in Kroil and I'll bring out the less sophisticated tools this weekend. On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Embarq Customer wrote: > I've had a few jambed drums before. You are being too nice to it. A 10 > pound drum separating tool works quite well with the proper technique. > > Andy > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as boakes at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From drlsmith at dccnet.com Tue Mar 24 13:33:43 2009 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:33:43 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 roadster wiring question References: <509189055.757361237924614413.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <020476C2BA714E4CA8C475111E1AC09C@Daryl> Actually, to handle the 30 amps that the alternator puts out, it has to be at least a 12awg. Normally for that amperage I would install a 10 awg, but for some reason in automotive wiring it always seems to be a gauge or 2 smaller than I expect. Perhaps this has something to do with it being DC? or short runs? or both....... If doing it for myself I would install a 10 awg wire. And yes it is the same size as feeds to the ammeter....... Daryl > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "oliver" > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 12:50:57 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 roadster wiring question > > on that car, there is a white wire going from the alternator to the fuse > box. > anyone know what gage its supposed to be? and is the same gage used to go > from the fues box to the ammeter, or is it smaller (in size; larger in > gage)? > > thanks! From jake7140 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 24 15:53:11 2009 From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Rescue Mission Message-ID: <349568.38397.qm@web37905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Bill, A friendly piece of advice so you don't push your wife over the edge: Sell the Z race car to a fellow MC member. ;-D Steve Steve's Racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society www.elrss.com Message: 3 Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:11:53 -0500 From: Bill Oakes Subject: [Roadsters] Rescue mission completed To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Message-ID: <3ad057d60903221711t6f8d780co6f5be10de175d0ba at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yeah, I probably paid too much, but I picked up that black '68 2000 in the Chicago south suburbs. The story checked out, 43K original miles, been out of service since 1973 (pulled the '73 plate off when I picked it up). It's rough, bottom of body in bad shape, but the frame, floor boards and most of the rest of the body is salvageable. The important part, everything is there. Every button, knob, piece of glass, interior panel, everything. Perfect "model" for completing my red '68 2000, and then I really think this one will becoming a nice long term restoration. Have I told you how considerate and patient my wife is???? http://picasaweb.google.com/boakes/RoadsterBlack# -bill From boakes at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 16:02:13 2009 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:02:13 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Rescue Mission In-Reply-To: <349568.38397.qm@web37905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <349568.38397.qm@web37905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You bet.....1 billion dollars (said while holding pinky finger to mouth)! And yes, she is a keeper (the wife, that is). The Z beast is soon to come out of hibernation soon. On Mar 24, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Steve Jacobson wrote: > Bill, > A friendly piece of advice so you don't push your wife over the > edge: Sell the > Z race car to a fellow MC member. ;-D > > Steve > > Steve's Racing web site > www.NoNameRacing.com > Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society > www.elrss.com > > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:11:53 -0500 > From: Bill Oakes > Subject: [Roadsters] Rescue mission completed > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Message-ID: > <3ad057d60903221711t6f8d780co6f5be10de175d0ba at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Yeah, I probably paid too much, but I picked up that black '68 2000 > in the > Chicago south suburbs. The story checked out, 43K original miles, > been out > of service since 1973 (pulled the '73 plate off when I picked it > up). It's > rough, bottom of body in bad shape, but the frame, floor boards and > most of > the rest of the body is salvageable. > > The important part, everything is there. Every button, knob, piece > of glass, > interior panel, everything. Perfect "model" for completing my red > '68 2000, > and then I really think this one will becoming a nice long term > restoration. > > > Have I told you how considerate and patient my wife is???? > > http://picasaweb.google.com/boakes/RoadsterBlack# > > -bill > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as boakes at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Tue Mar 24 18:33:33 2009 From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 roadster wiring question In-Reply-To: <020476C2BA714E4CA8C475111E1AC09C@Daryl> Message-ID: <583816.49353.qm@web51109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Use finely stranded copper wire, and the negative needs to be just as strong. Jim --- On Tue, 3/24/09, Daryl Smith wrote: From: Daryl Smith Subject: Re: [Roadsters] early 67 roadster wiring question To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 4:33 PM Actually, to handle the 30 amps that the alternator puts out, it has to be at least a 12awg. Normally for that amperage I would install a 10 awg, but for some reason in automotive wiring it always seems to be a gauge or 2 smaller than I expect. Perhaps this has something to do with it being DC? or short runs? or both....... If doing it for myself I would install a 10 awg wire. And yes it is the same size as feeds to the ammeter....... Daryl > ----- Original Message ----- From: "oliver" > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 12:50:57 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 roadster wiring question > > on that car, there is a white wire going from the alternator to the fuse box. > anyone know what gage its supposed to be? and is the same gage used to go > from the fues box to the ammeter, or is it smaller (in size; larger in gage)? > > thanks! You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From drlsmith at dccnet.com Tue Mar 24 23:22:22 2009 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:22:22 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] L (?) series clutch on U20? Message-ID: <3CFC0B9C68674CB2876CEA4E82F8A1E6@Daryl> Funny, I was just up at Garth's place where he was trying to get his clutch/flywheel balanced. They turned him away because the new roadster clutch didn't match the flywheel which was taken off his car. The old pressure plate bolted on right at the edge of the flywheel (10 5/8" bolt centres), clutch is 8 7/8" (225 mm) diameter. Googled the part #s and it turns out it is for the L20B, Z20, L20ET, or the SD20 diesel. Very heavy duty compared to the roadster clutch. Was this an old racer trick? Would be kind of heavy, but it sure wouldn't slip..... Or just someone making something fit just because they thought it was better? 'Course Garth now has to find a replacement for the flywheel to keep everything 'Roadster'......... Daryl Delta, BC, Canada "Where the military is going to take a year off............" From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Wed Mar 25 05:42:48 2009 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:42:48 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] stuck drums Message-ID: Gordon wrote: Re: [Roadsters] stuck drums I ran into this a number of years ago and couldn't get it unstuck. Then a friend suggested ...pouring some liquid between the drum and backing plate. After marinating for a day or two, smacking the axle straight down on the studs popped the drum right off. Unfortunately I can't remember what the liquid was. I keep thinking it was ammonia, but I'm not sure. I suspect it was vinegar (aka: acetic acid), ya know, the same thing used to un-gunk the built up minerals in your coffee maker, and showerhead. I shy away from all chemical-speak (got thru chem class, but swore I'd never re-visit that subject), but the oxidation of aluminum/steel dissimilar metals mix has me betting it was that. Along those lines, that CLR (calcium, lime, rust) cleaner product may be one to try, although Andy's suggestion of really good alignment and a BFH has a lot of merit as well. Fergus O 69 2000 (made a plaster splash of the Ford emblem on my kluge grille, buying casting resin today, so hopefully will have another "unique detail" soon) From ronnie.day at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 08:33:45 2009 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:33:45 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] L (?) series clutch on U20? In-Reply-To: <3CFC0B9C68674CB2876CEA4E82F8A1E6@Daryl> References: <3CFC0B9C68674CB2876CEA4E82F8A1E6@Daryl> Message-ID: <2faaebf80903250833o7f4f3765t86d3de0f6cc12c20@mail.gmail.com> If the friction surface on his flywheel is 8 inches across he needs another pressure plate and disk. There are (I think) three friction surface diameters for L/Z series Datsuns with the same flywheel overall/ring gear diameter. The Roadsters and 4-clynder sedans use the same diameter pressure plates and disks but different flywheels. The Roadsters and L-4 sedans used 200mm while the L-6 (Z & 810) used 225mm and 240mm (Z 2 +2, I think). IIRC, most of the pickups used the 240mm units along with big heavy flywheels and low (mid 4.something to 5.something) rear gears. The heavy duty Roadster pressure plate, commonly referred as the 20111 (the last 5 numbers in the part number), has long been used on the L-4s that use the 200mm flywheel. It's much stiffer than the OEM 510 PP and somewhat more so than the OEM roadster unit. The clamping pressures are available but I don't know them off the top of my head. You'll really give your left leg a workout using the 20111 in either a roadster or 510. At the other extreme the OEM 510 PP was good for maybe 30K miles of "normal driving" in a 510. If you decide to order the "heavy duty" unit from anyone including a dealer check the number of rivets on the tabs holding the assembly together. True 20111 units will have three rivets on each tab. If it only has two it's not a real (20111) pressure plate. I'm not sure how many, if any, of the 20111s are still available. I picked up a couple along with a bunch of other stuff in the early '90s anticpating building up a couple of 510s. I'm finally getting around to using some of this stuff. Ron > Daryl Smith > Funny, I was just up at Garth's place where he was trying to get his clutch/flywheel balanced. They turned him away because the new roadster clutch didn't match the flywheel which was taken off his car. > > The old pressure plate bolted on right at the edge of the flywheel (10 5/8" bolt centres), clutch is 8 7/8" (225 mm) diameter. > Googled the part #s and it turns out it is for the L20B, Z20, L20ET, or the SD20 diesel. > > Very heavy duty compared to the roadster clutch. > > Was this an old racer trick? Would be kind of heavy, but it sure wouldn't slip..... > > Or just someone making something fit just because they thought it was better? > > 'Course Garth now has to find a replacement for the flywheel to keep everything 'Roadster'......... From andycost at embarqmail.com Wed Mar 25 09:30:52 2009 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Embarq Customer) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:30:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] stuck drums In-Reply-To: <1085849024.15074791237998572287.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com> Message-ID: <1520527617.15075531237998652430.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com> Be aware that basic compounds like NaOH or CaCO3 Drano, baking, soda, EZ off oven cleaner, etc... will attack aluminum but not steel, corrosion, or rust. Acid will attack the aluminum, steel, corrosion, and rust. If you use a liquid I would suggest a mild acid like vinegar. Once you are done you need to treat the steel with base like a baking soda wash. Otherwise the acid will turn the steel into a salt. We all know what salt does to steel. Dr. Andy PhD. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fergus P O'Farrell (AS)" To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:42:48 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stuck drums Gordon wrote: Re: [Roadsters] stuck drums I ran into this a number of years ago and couldn't get it unstuck. Then a friend suggested ...pouring some liquid between the drum and backing plate. After marinating for a day or two, smacking the axle straight down on the studs popped the drum right off. Unfortunately I can't remember what the liquid was. I keep thinking it was ammonia, but I'm not sure. I suspect it was vinegar (aka: acetic acid), ya know, the same thing used to un-gunk the built up minerals in your coffee maker, and showerhead. I shy away from all chemical-speak (got thru chem class, but swore I'd never re-visit that subject), but the oxidation of aluminum/steel dissimilar metals mix has me betting it was that. Along those lines, that CLR (calcium, lime, rust) cleaner product may be one to try, although Andy's suggestion of really good alignment and a BFH has a lot of merit as well. Fergus O 69 2000 (made a plaster splash of the Ford emblem on my kluge grille, buying casting resin today, so hopefully will have another "unique detail" soon) You are subscribed as andycost at embarqmail.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com Wed Mar 25 11:49:08 2009 From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:49:08 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 2 '67s for $1800! Message-ID: Don't know anything more than the link. http://eugene.craigslist.org/cto/1088828211.html Hope this gets someone the project or parts car that they have been looking for. -Greg SRL31100494 From hallosb at juno.com Wed Mar 25 12:34:44 2009 From: hallosb at juno.com (hallosb at juno.com) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:34:44 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 roadster wiring question Message-ID: <20090325.123444.21930.0@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> Both wires should be the same gauge. I believe I used 10 AWG. You also need to add your own in-line Maxi-Fuse to the circuit to protect your ammeter. Roadsters have a long history of frying ammeters. Don't ask me how I know. Dan McHatton '66 1600 -------------------------------------------------- on that car, there is a white wire going from the alternator to the fuse box. anyone know what gage its supposed to be? and is the same gage used to go from the fues box to the ammeter, or is it smaller (in size; larger in gage)? ____________________________________________________________ Free auto insurance quotes from top companies. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsHEaFZlA0kzz7O1rWtGBLiMgv0J rd56qJ8fzjqi8XEC5xLHifiGAI/ From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Mar 25 13:51:36 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:51:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 roadster wiring question In-Reply-To: <20090325.123444.21930.0@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <1156737372.1305391238014296288.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I love the smell of burning ammeters in the morning! Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: hallosb at juno.com To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 12:34:44 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] early 67 roadster wiring question Both wires should be the same gauge. I believe I used 10 AWG. You also need to add your own in-line Maxi-Fuse to the circuit to protect your ammeter. Roadsters have a long history of frying ammeters. Don't ask me how I know. Dan McHatton '66 1600 -------------------------------------------------- on that car, there is a white wire going from the alternator to the fuse box. anyone know what gage its supposed to be? and is the same gage used to go from the fues box to the ammeter, or is it smaller (in size; larger in gage)? ____________________________________________________________ Free auto insurance quotes from top companies. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsHEaFZlA0kzz7O1rWtGBLiMgv0J rd56qJ8fzjqi8XEC5xLHifiGAI/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From box12 at live.nl Wed Mar 25 14:07:36 2009 From: box12 at live.nl (dick van vuurde) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:07:36 +0100 Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Message-ID: Hello datsun roadsterfriends , I am the happy owner of a datsun roadster of 1967 with a 2000 cc engine. but a have a big problem with the timing -gear- rear ( org.number 13036-25500 ) see the photo,s . Is there someone who can help me ? I live in the Netherlands , here is nobody who can help me , because there are here +/- 15 roadsters the most of them 1600. hope for a speedy replay, regards, Dik van Vuurde zonnekant 5 2203NA Noordwijk The Netherlands Email; box12 at live.nl _________________________________________________________________ De leukste online filmpjes vind je op MSN Video! http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=nl-nl [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] From turbored at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 14:36:42 2009 From: turbored at gmail.com (turbored) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:36:42 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7CE4F7B4-73AC-494E-8FE3-942AAE33FA3C@gmail.com> Dick, Attachments get removed from the list. Is it a 67.5 2000 or is a 67/67.5 with a 2000 swapped in? Eendracht maakt macht is true even in the Roadster community. drew On Mar 25, 2009, at 2:07 PM, dick van vuurde wrote: > Hello datsun roadsterfriends , > > > > I am the happy owner of a datsun roadster of 1967 with a 2000 cc > engine. > > but a have a big problem with the timing -gear- rear ( org.number > 13036-25500 > ) > > see the photo,s . > > > > Is there someone who can help me ? > > > > I live in the Netherlands , here is nobody who can help me , because > there are > here +/- 15 roadsters > > the most of them 1600. > > > > hope for a speedy replay, > > > > regards, Dik van Vuurde > > zonnekant 5 > > 2203NA Noordwijk > > The Netherlands > > > > Email; box12 at live.nl > > _________________________________________________________________ > De leukste online filmpjes vind je op MSN Video! > http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=nl-nl > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as turbored at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From Keith0alan at aol.com Wed Mar 25 14:47:02 2009 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:47:02 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Message-ID: Dik, If you post the pictures on one of the picture posting services then send us the link to them we can take a look. keith In a message dated 3/25/2009 2:08:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, box12 at live.nl writes: Hello datsun roadsterfriends , I am the happy owner of a datsun roadster of 1967 with a 2000 cc engine. but a have a big problem with the timing -gear- rear ( org.number 13036-25500 ) see the photo,s . Is there someone who can help me ? I live in the Netherlands , here is nobody who can help me , because there are here +/- 15 roadsters the most of them 1600. hope for a speedy replay, regards, Dik van Vuurde zonnekant 5 2203NA Noordwijk The Netherlands Email; box12 at live.nl _________________________________________________________________ De leukste online filmpjes vind je op MSN Video! http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=nl-nl [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] You are subscribed as keith0alan at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************Great Deals on Dell 15" Laptops - Starting at $479 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220635228x1201407499/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doub leclick.net%2Fclk%3B213153654%3B34689672%3Bo) From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Mar 25 15:04:21 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:04:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 timing gear problems In-Reply-To: <1093136665.1341991238018193715.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1492628048.1345541238018660998.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Another good resource is the 311s.org website: There's another roadster owner from the Netherlands posting there. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith0alan at aol.com To: box12 at live.nl, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 2:47:02 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (no subject) Dik, If you post the pictures on one of the picture posting services then send us the link to them we can take a look. keith In a message dated 3/25/2009 2:08:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, box12 at live.nl writes: Hello datsun roadsterfriends , I am the happy owner of a datsun roadster of 1967 with a 2000 cc engine. but a have a big problem with the timing -gear- rear ( org.number 13036-25500 ) see the photo,s . Is there someone who can help me ? I live in the Netherlands , here is nobody who can help me , because there are here +/- 15 roadsters the most of them 1600. hope for a speedy replay, regards, Dik van Vuurde zonnekant 5 2203NA Noordwijk The Netherlands Email; box12 at live.nl _________________________________________________________________ De leukste online filmpjes vind je op MSN Video! http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=nl-nl [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] You are subscribed as keith0alan at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************Great Deals on Dell 15" Laptops - Starting at $479 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220635228x1201407499/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doub leclick.net%2Fclk%3B213153654%3B34689672%3Bo) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From Keith0alan at aol.com Wed Mar 25 16:47:35 2009 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:47:35 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] [Fwd: foto's tandwiel] Message-ID: Hello all, Looks like your basic worn out crank sprocket for the timing chain. These are normally replaced as a set including chains and sprockets. These are available through several of the venders that you can find on 311s.org . Not all of the vendors are there and I am sure that some others will be mentioned. keith In a message dated 3/25/2009 4:35:34 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Keithoalan writes: ____________________________________ From: boris15boris at zonnet.nl To: keithOalan at aol.com, turbored at gmail.com, aultgc at att.net, vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com Sent: 3/25/2009 4:17:35 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time Subj: [Fwd: foto's tandwiel] hello, Thanks for your speedy replay, here I sent You the photos regards, Dik van Vuurde The Netherlands X-Account-Key: account2 X-Mozilla-Keys: Return-Path: Delivered-To: boris15boris at zonnet.nl Received: (qmail 5132 invoked by uid 0); 21 Mar 2009 16:35:23 -0000 Received: from unknown ([10.170.1.113]) (envelope-sender <>) by qmail14.zonnet.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with QMQP for < >; 21 Mar 2009 16:35:23 -0000 Delivered-To: CLUSTERHOST mail2.versatel.nl boris15boris at zonnet.nl Received: (qmail 7783 invoked by uid 0); 21 Mar 2009 16:35:22 -0000 Received: from col0-omc2-s5.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.79]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 21 Mar 2009 16:35:22 -0000 Received: from COL109-W11 ([65.55.34.71]) by col0-omc2-s5.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 21 Mar 2009 09:35:20 -0700 Message-ID: Return-Path: box12 at live.nl Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_9de391c6-aa86-4034-b6c7-6f4497b8a3d9_" X-Originating-IP: [80.100.136.135] From: dick van vuurde To: dick Subject: foto's tandwiel Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:35:21 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Mar 2009 16:35:20.0849 (UTC) FILETIME=[06AFE010:01C9AA43] ____________________________________ Deel en publiceer je favoriete foto's met _Windows Live Photos_ (http://windowslive.microsoft.nl/WL/Explore/Photos) __________ NOD32 3860 (20090217) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. _http://www.eset.com_ (http://www.eset.com/) = ____________________________________ _Great Deals on Dell 15" Laptops - Starting at $479_ (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220635228x1201407499/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick.net/cl k;213153654;34689672;o) **************Great Deals on Dell 15" Laptops - Starting at $479 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220635228x1201407499/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doub leclick.net%2Fclk%3B213153654%3B34689672%3Bo) From timbob_fisher at yahoo.com Wed Mar 25 17:59:57 2009 From: timbob_fisher at yahoo.com (tim fisher) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] stuck drums In-Reply-To: <1520527617.15075531237998652430.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com> Message-ID: <6290.67591.qm@web54110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Didn't I see a reference for using molasses on an old rusty engine block? Seemed to work well... --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Embarq Customer wrote: > From: Embarq Customer > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stuck drums > To: "Fergus P O'Farrell (AS)" > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 11:30 AM > Be aware that basic compounds like NaOH or CaCO3 Drano, > baking, soda, EZ off oven cleaner, etc... will attack > aluminum but not steel, corrosion, or rust. Acid will > attack the aluminum, steel, corrosion, and rust. If you use > a liquid I would suggest a mild acid like vinegar. Once you > are done you need to treat the steel with base like a baking > soda wash. Otherwise the acid will turn the steel into a > salt. We all know what salt does to steel. > > Dr. Andy PhD. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fergus P O'Farrell (AS)" > > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:42:48 AM GMT -06:00 > US/Canada Central > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stuck drums > > Gordon wrote: Re: [Roadsters] stuck drums > I ran into this a number of years ago and couldn't get > it unstuck. Then > a friend suggested ...pouring some liquid between the drum > and backing > plate. After marinating for a day or two, smacking the axle > straight > down on the studs popped the drum right off. Unfortunately > I can't > remember what the liquid was. I keep thinking it was > ammonia, but I'm > not sure. > > I suspect it was vinegar (aka: acetic acid), ya know, the > same thing > used to un-gunk the built up minerals in your coffee maker, > and > showerhead. I shy away from all chemical-speak (got thru > chem class, > but swore I'd never re-visit that subject), but the > oxidation of > aluminum/steel dissimilar metals mix has me betting it was > that. > > Along those lines, that CLR (calcium, lime, rust) cleaner > product may be > one to try, although Andy's suggestion of really good > alignment and a > BFH has a lot of merit as well. > > Fergus O > 69 2000 (made a plaster splash of the Ford emblem on my > kluge grille, > buying casting resin today, so hopefully will have another > "unique > detail" soon) > You are subscribed as andycost at embarqmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as timbob_fisher at yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From eddietude at socal.rr.com Wed Mar 25 22:17:54 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:17:54 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Line Routing Message-ID: <49CB1002.20705@socal.rr.com> Hi all, I'm in the last stages of getting my roadster finished... whoohoo! So here's a question. How does the fuel line route from the fuel pump to the carbs? Does it just go over the top of the motor? Seems like that would get in the way when it comes time to adjust the valves... Anyone? It's been so long since I disassembled the thing, I don't remember... Thanks. Eddie From ljordan704 at netscape.net Wed Mar 25 22:58:07 2009 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 01:58:07 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Line Routing In-Reply-To: <49CB1002.20705@socal.rr.com> References: <49CB1002.20705@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <8CB7BEEF8228532-16B4-1D62@WEBMAIL-MZ35.sysops.aol.com> You can check some of the various configurations by going to webshots.com and typing in "Datsun Roadster engine" to see pics of engine fuel routing. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Eddie To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:17 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Line Routing Hi all,? ? I'm in the last stages of getting my roadster finished... whoohoo! ? So here's a question. How does the fuel line route from the fuel pump to the carbs? Does it just go over the top of the motor? Seems like that would get in the way when it comes time to adjust the valves... ? Anyone? It's been so long since I disassembled the thing, I don't remember...? ? Thanks.? ? Eddie? ________________________________________? Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? ? You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net? ? Datsun-roadsters mailing list? ? http://www.team.net/archive? ? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters? From eddietude at socal.rr.com Thu Mar 26 09:17:26 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:17:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Line Routing In-Reply-To: References: <49CB1002.20705@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <49CBAA96.8030904@socal.rr.com> I've got a handful of things left to do to the car: Seats, Fule line to gas tank, wiring, and some michelaneous hoses, etc. But, if I had a couple of days and all the parts, I'd be done... Thanks all for the info. Great ideas... Eddie Ed Mitchell wrote: > WOW...Congratulations... > > Sounds like we're at the same stage...My first Roadster restore > > I just got finished with trying out how to route the fuel line > > Now I'm NO Authority by any means...but here's what I did... > > Got a 5' Teflon Flex Line...and went back around the firewall > > if you think it's something you'd like clearer pics of...lemme know > > http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG > > **the last page of the album...like the 2nd to last pic...silver braded > lineruns under battery up and over, back around firewall... > > I also have some pics of the original routing...I was going to try to route > it that way too...but bending tubing isn't my forte :) > > > > good luck > > Ed Mitchell > Las Cruces, NM > 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 http://www.ziaroc.com/ > http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG <--Dead Betty : ) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eddie > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:18 PM > To: Datsun Roadster List > Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Line Routing > > Hi all, > > I'm in the last stages of getting my roadster finished... whoohoo! > > So here's a question. How does the fuel line route from the fuel pump > to the carbs? Does it just go over the top of the motor? Seems like > that would get in the way when it comes time to adjust the valves... > > Anyone? It's been so long since I disassembled the thing, I don't > remember... > > Thanks. > > Eddie > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as edmitche at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From larrybraddock at ca.rr.com Thu Mar 26 11:25:41 2009 From: larrybraddock at ca.rr.com (Larry Braddock) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:25:41 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] gauges Message-ID: <1FEE474CFB7149EAADFFCF42573BC477@owner4d7e0adce> I can't figure out how my gauges are attached in my dash on 66 roadster. Does the chrome ring screw on, clip on, or ?. Thanks in advance, Larry Braddock From drlsmith at dccnet.com Thu Mar 26 11:33:11 2009 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:33:11 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] gauges References: <1FEE474CFB7149EAADFFCF42573BC477@owner4d7e0adce> Message-ID: <1786DCDE39C84F6390245F6334C15093@Daryl> There is a bracket and a couple of wing nuts at the back. you have to get under the dash to get at them.......... Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Braddock" Subject: [Roadsters] gauges >I can't figure out how my gauges are attached in my dash on 66 roadster. >Does > the chrome ring screw on, clip on, or ?. > > Thanks in advance, > Larry Braddock From Walter.Peterson at cox.net Thu Mar 26 12:33:45 2009 From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter Peterson) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:33:45 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] gauges. Paint mod. In-Reply-To: <1786DCDE39C84F6390245F6334C15093@Daryl> References: <1FEE474CFB7149EAADFFCF42573BC477@owner4d7e0adce> <1786DCDE39C84F6390245F6334C15093@Daryl> Message-ID: <002a01c9ae49$c74986a0$55dc93e0$@Peterson@cox.net> While I had my Early 67 instrument panel off I painted the inside (back Side) area Gloss White. What a difference it makes when you need to see what you're doing back there. I little light now goes a long ways. Walter Peterson Goleta Ca, 93117 Street driven race motor 2000 3-Main(R) Solexes,cam etc. 5-Speed & LSD. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daryl Smith Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:33 AM To: Larry Braddock; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] gauges There is a bracket and a couple of wing nuts at the back. you have to get under the dash to get at them.......... Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Braddock" Subject: [Roadsters] gauges >I can't figure out how my gauges are attached in my dash on 66 roadster. >Does > the chrome ring screw on, clip on, or ?. > > Thanks in advance, > Larry Braddock You are subscribed as walter.peterson at cox.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From geegc at aol.com Thu Mar 26 12:34:34 2009 From: geegc at aol.com (geegc at aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:34:34 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] gauges. Paint mod. Message-ID: <1223823269-1238096195-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-431906203-@bxe1211.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Great idea! Gary C ------Original Message------ From: Walter Peterson Sender: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Mar 26, 2009 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] gauges. Paint mod. While I had my Early 67 instrument panel off I painted the inside (back Side) area Gloss White. What a difference it makes when you need to see what you're doing back there. I little light now goes a long ways. Walter Peterson Goleta Ca, 93117 Street driven race motor 2000 3-Main(R) Solexes,cam etc. 5-Speed & LSD. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daryl Smith Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:33 AM To: Larry Braddock; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] gauges There is a bracket and a couple of wing nuts at the back. you have to get under the dash to get at them.......... Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Braddock" Subject: [Roadsters] gauges >I can't figure out how my gauges are attached in my dash on 66 roadster. >Does > the chrome ring screw on, clip on, or ?. > > Thanks in advance, > Larry Braddock You are subscribed as walter.peterson at cox.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as geegc at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From Pat at HORNESYSTEMSTX.COM Thu Mar 26 12:41:32 2009 From: Pat at HORNESYSTEMSTX.COM (Pat at HORNESYSTEMSTX.COM) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:41:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] gauges Message-ID: <20090326124132.997a8624c2b4dae4e01298000bf07581.8a2ff70e6b.wbe@email.secureserver.net> From Pat at HORNESYSTEMSTX.COM Thu Mar 26 12:43:55 2009 From: Pat at HORNESYSTEMSTX.COM (Pat at HORNESYSTEMSTX.COM) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:43:55 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] gauges Message-ID: <20090326124355.997a8624c2b4dae4e01298000bf07581.c0c1e56b08.wbe@email.secureserver.net> From drlsmith at dccnet.com Fri Mar 27 09:59:23 2009 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:59:23 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] BC Spring Thaw Run Message-ID: http://www.touringadventure.com/about-the-spring-thaw-classic-car-adventure.html http://www.touringadventure.com/SpringThaw_EventInformation.pdf Don't remember if I posted this or not.......... I am trying to get my car organized to do this trip and wondering if anyone else might be interested....? IF my car doesn't come together in time, I would be available as a co-driver, and someone may be able to take the spot I am very likely going to register for in the next couple of days.......... Also, IF my car doesn't make it, I would be happy to drive someone elses car.................. Cheers, Daryl From sportsix63 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 27 12:01:37 2009 From: sportsix63 at yahoo.com (jim williams) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] To Buy NOS Parts Message-ID: <754052.32029.qm@web30608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I am interested in buying a Datsun nos parts business. If anyone has any leads please let me know. Location may be a problem for me since I'm on the east coast. Jim Williams Lewisburg, West Virginia From turbored at gmail.com Fri Mar 27 12:21:21 2009 From: turbored at gmail.com (turbored) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:21:21 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] To Buy NOS Parts In-Reply-To: <754052.32029.qm@web30608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <754052.32029.qm@web30608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Are you looking to buy NOS parts, or a business that sells NOS parts? drew On Mar 27, 2009, at 12:01 PM, jim williams wrote: > I am interested in buying a Datsun nos parts business. If anyone > has any leads please let me know. Location may be a problem for me > since I'm on the east coast. > > > > > Jim Williams Lewisburg, West Virginia > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as turbored at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From daveandlindab at comcast.net Fri Mar 27 18:51:55 2009 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:51:55 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] gauges In-Reply-To: <20090326124132.997a8624c2b4dae4e01298000bf07581.8a2ff70e6b.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <9BDE01B8A98E417691DAF1548A871A57@delled48909442> Well, that about sums it up :) Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: Pat at HORNESYSTEMSTX.COM [mailto:Pat at HORNESYSTEMSTX.COM] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 3:42 PM To: Larry Braddock Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] gauges From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com Fri Mar 27 20:30:04 2009 From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] rough running H20 after head gasket change Message-ID: <931886.41225.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hi everyone last weekend i discovered that i had a blown head gasket on my H20 (gary boone eDizzy, 44PHHs, cam, head work, etc). after a week of chasing parts (thanks dean apostle and thanks stan chernoff!) and services (thanks mark degroff!, who's not on the list, but i still wanted to thank), the head is back on and it's all put together. i adjusted the valves once, when cold, before start-up. the thing is, it's running like crap. it's very rough at anything above idle. i thought i had a timing light, but i guess not. but no matter where i position the distributor, it does not improve. anyone close to highland park (northeast los angeles) that would be willing to trade some lunch tomorrow for some of their expertise? i would really appreciate it. i was supposed to be at the track this weekend, but the headgasket put me way behind. any help is greatly appreciated. thanks in advance steve 675MIZU From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sat Mar 28 07:54:48 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:54:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] rough running H20 after head gasket change In-Reply-To: <931886.41225.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <931886.41225.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Don't know if it's the problem, but I thought it was better to adjust the valves warm: Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of steven boortz Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 8:30 PM To: roadsters Subject: [Roadsters] rough running H20 after head gasket change hi everyone last weekend i discovered that i had a blown head gasket on my H20 (gary boone eDizzy, 44PHHs, cam, head work, etc). after a week of chasing parts (thanks dean apostle and thanks stan chernoff!) and services (thanks mark degroff!, who's not on the list, but i still wanted to thank), the head is back on and it's all put together. i adjusted the valves once, when cold, before start-up. the thing is, it's running like crap. it's very rough at anything above idle. i thought i had a timing light, but i guess not. but no matter where i position the distributor, it does not improve. anyone close to highland park (northeast los angeles) that would be willing to trade some lunch tomorrow for some of their expertise? i would really appreciate it. i was supposed to be at the track this weekend, but the headgasket put me way behind. any help is greatly appreciated. thanks in advance steve 675MIZU From 9laser3 at bright.net Sat Mar 28 07:55:16 2009 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:55:16 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] rough running H20 after head gasket change In-Reply-To: References: <931886.41225.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001001c9afb5$37adacc0$a7090640$@net> The books have a cold setting to get things close, but the final adjustment should always be done on a hot motor! Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 10:55 AM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rough running H20 after head gasket change Don't know if it's the problem, but I thought it was better to adjust the valves warm: Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of steven boortz Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 8:30 PM To: roadsters Subject: [Roadsters] rough running H20 after head gasket change hi everyone last weekend i discovered that i had a blown head gasket on my H20 (gary boone eDizzy, 44PHHs, cam, head work, etc). after a week of chasing parts (thanks dean apostle and thanks stan chernoff!) and services (thanks mark degroff!, who's not on the list, but i still wanted to thank), the head is back on and it's all put together. i adjusted the valves once, when cold, before start-up. the thing is, it's running like crap. it's very rough at anything above idle. i thought i had a timing light, but i guess not. but no matter where i position the distributor, it does not improve. anyone close to highland park (northeast los angeles) that would be willing to trade some lunch tomorrow for some of their expertise? i would really appreciate it. i was supposed to be at the track this weekend, but the headgasket put me way behind. any help is greatly appreciated. thanks in advance steve 675MIZU You are subscribed as 9laser3 at bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From andycost at embarqmail.com Sat Mar 28 07:51:07 2009 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:51:07 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] rough running H20 after head gasket change In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Make sure the spark plug wires are in the correct order. I've built bunches of motors and several times I got the wires back on wrong. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 9:55 AM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rough running H20 after head gasket change Don't know if it's the problem, but I thought it was better to adjust the valves warm: Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of steven boortz Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 8:30 PM To: roadsters Subject: [Roadsters] rough running H20 after head gasket change hi everyone last weekend i discovered that i had a blown head gasket on my H20 (gary boone eDizzy, 44PHHs, cam, head work, etc). after a week of chasing parts (thanks dean apostle and thanks stan chernoff!) and services (thanks mark degroff!, who's not on the list, but i still wanted to thank), the head is back on and it's all put together. i adjusted the valves once, when cold, before start-up. the thing is, it's running like crap. it's very rough at anything above idle. i thought i had a timing light, but i guess not. but no matter where i position the distributor, it does not improve. anyone close to highland park (northeast los angeles) that would be willing to trade some lunch tomorrow for some of their expertise? i would really appreciate it. i was supposed to be at the track this weekend, but the headgasket put me way behind. any help is greatly appreciated. thanks in advance steve 675MIZU You are subscribed as andycost at embarqmail.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com Sat Mar 28 08:00:14 2009 From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Message-ID: <148718.8110.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hi everyone thanks for all the responses. most have said it sounds like the timing is way off, and that i should re-adjust the valves with a warm engine. some have suggested that the plug wires may be in the wrong place. and it makes perfect sense. but i'm pretty sure i replaced them in the right order and place. i left the dizzy in while adjusting the valves, so as not to lose the relationship. i did though remove the plugs. i labeled the wires, though i know the order is 1, 3, 4, 2. it ran well for a little while. then it seems like something changed, and it started running rough when i tried to drive it. s 675MIZU From reblues at gmail.com Sat Mar 28 10:09:32 2009 From: reblues at gmail.com (reblues@gmail) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:09:32 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) References: <148718.8110.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4BA5BBE072DB4622885254B373BE2D72@ACER4230> Maybe it is a fuel problem. Check the usual suspects. Clogged gas lines, dirty filters, screens in the carbs, float valves. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "steven boortz" To: "roadsters" Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 10:00 AM Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) > hi everyone > > thanks for all the responses. most have said it sounds like the timing is > way off, and that i should re-adjust the valves with a warm engine. some > have suggested that the plug wires may be in the wrong place. and it > makes perfect sense. but i'm pretty sure i replaced them in the > right order and place. i left the dizzy in while adjusting the valves, > so as not to lose the relationship. i did though remove the plugs. i > labeled the wires, though i know the order is 1, 3, 4, 2. it ran well > for a little while. then it seems like something changed, and it > started running rough when i tried to drive it. > s > 675MIZU > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as reblues at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com Sat Mar 28 20:06:02 2009 From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:06:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Message-ID: <738398.13499.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hi everyone here is an update on the H20. thank you to all who responded with suggestions regarding the rough running of the H20 after replacing the headgasket. well, i figured that part out as soon as i removed the valve cover again. i did not follow the service manual when re-assembling the head. i should have. when first i did it, i torqued the head down, and THEN installed the rocker assembly. wrong move. the head nuts should be hand tight, then install the rocker shaft assembly, hand tight, THEN torque the head. the reason for my misfire was that somehow the rocker shaft assembly had worked its way away from the head, and the last cylinder's valve's were not opening properly. soooooooooooooo..... i put it together the right way the second time, and now it runs great (GREAT!). except one thing.... it overheats at idle after about 60 seconds. the thermostat (brand new 180 degree) does not seem to open until it's too late. the temp is up around 220, and the radiator is not even warm. if i remove the thermostat, the radiator warms right up. circulation seems good, unless there is a thermostat in. i tried 2 different 180 t-stats, and the same thing. i drove it about one mile with no t-stat, and it got right up to 220 again. the radiator is a 3 row, recently re-done. the water pump does not leak. and after filling and re-fillling the radiator several times now, it's pretty darn clean. i have an electric fan, but if the radiator doesn't get warm, alot of good it does. i have no clue. still. steve 675MIZU From escanlon at wa-net.com Sat Mar 28 20:25:48 2009 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:25:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] James Burns Published book of Night Flower's Message-ID: <7EE95C01635A4104BD41CA87AF51BEFC@HPW> To those of you who may not immediately make the connection, Jim Burns is the creator and builder of the "Dat-O-Lantern" which has been seen at Blue Lake and Canby. It has won a couple of awards for it's theme and originality of theme. This is just another facet of a very talented individual. Click on the link to view a small selection of beautiful photos from the book. Enjoy; Enrique Scanlon ----------------------------------------------- We would like to invite you to come to our bookstore and take a preview look of our new books! "I, Creator, a personal journey" is an inspirational guide toward self growth and discovery. (Fine Art photography/Self Help) "Flowers at Night" is the James Burns Collection. Here, James shows emotions with his unique artistic view of flowers. (Fine Art photography) Both are available in hardcover as well as paperback. A great gift for your friends! I, Creator - a personal journey is available through Blurb.com. The bookstore is located at http://www.blurb.com/user/RGebbiePhoto Hope you enjoy! James and Janet Burns We would like you to share this with all your friends and acquaintances. Robert Gebbie Photography Vancouver, WA USA Portraits - Studio - Commercial www.rgebbiephotography.com Read about and follow us at www.RGebbiePhoto.blogspot.com Twitter: RGebbiePhoto From drlsmith at dccnet.com Sat Mar 28 20:43:00 2009 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:43:00 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) References: <738398.13499.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I take it you had it running before without overheating? 1) try a 160* thermostat 2) Re-check your timing 3) Are you running lean? 4) No blockages in the hoses to the rad? (not likely, but remotely possible...) 5) If no luck with any of the above you could add a fan switch to the head, just below the thermostat. (drill and tap)...... I'm sure there will be some other things to check....... Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "steven boortz" > hi everyone > here is an update on the H20. thank you to all who responded with > suggestions regarding the rough running of the H20 after replacing the > headgasket. well, i figured that part out as soon as i removed the valve > cover again. i did not follow the service manual when re-assembling the > head. i should have. when first i did it, i torqued the head down, and > THEN installed the rocker assembly. wrong move. the head nuts should be > hand tight, then install the rocker shaft assembly, hand tight, THEN > torque the head. the reason for my misfire was that somehow the rocker > shaft assembly had worked its way away from the head, and the last > cylinder's valve's were not opening properly. soooooooooooooo..... i put > it together the right way the second time, and now it runs great (GREAT!). > > except one thing.... it overheats at idle after about 60 seconds. the > thermostat (brand new 180 degree) does not seem to open until it's too > late. the temp is up around 220, and the radiator is not even warm. if i > remove the thermostat, the radiator warms right up. circulation seems > good, unless there is a thermostat in. i tried 2 different 180 t-stats, > and the same thing. > > i drove it about one mile with no t-stat, and it got right up to 220 > again. > > the radiator is a 3 row, recently re-done. the water pump does not leak. > and after filling and re-fillling the radiator several times now, it's > pretty darn clean. > > i have an electric fan, but if the radiator doesn't get warm, alot of good > it does. > > i have no clue. > > still. > > steve > 675MIZU From drlsmith at dccnet.com Sat Mar 28 20:51:10 2009 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:51:10 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] gauges. Paint mod. References: <1FEE474CFB7149EAADFFCF42573BC477@owner4d7e0adce> <1786DCDE39C84F6390245F6334C15093@Daryl> <002a01c9ae49$c74986a0$55dc93e0$%Peterson@cox.net> Message-ID: <389262D19CC1440CB4A33BCA719C6B03@Daryl> That is a great idea. If my car ever comes apart to that degree again I will paint more than the just the back of the dash white!! Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter Peterson" To: > While I had my Early 67 instrument panel off I painted the inside (back > Side) area Gloss White. What a difference it makes when you need to see > what you're doing back there. I little light now goes a long ways. > > Walter Peterson > Goleta Ca, 93117 > Street driven race motor > 2000 3-Main(R) Solexes,cam etc. > 5-Speed & LSD. From pat at hornesystemstx.com Sun Mar 29 06:47:55 2009 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 08:47:55 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <738398.13499.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <738398.13499.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49CF7C0B.9000607@hornesystemstx.com> Steve, Be sure the thermostat is in right side up. The spring goes down. Also, if there isn't a bleed hole or jiggler in the thermostat, drill a 1/8" hole through the thermostat to allow air to bleed out of the engine with the thermostat closed. (If you are having a problem with not being able to get all the air out of the engine, use an aspirin to hold the thermostat open to allow the air to purge. Good luck and let us know what you find. Peace, Pat Thusly spake steven boortz, On 3/28/2009 10:06 PM: > hi everyone > here is an update on the H20. thank you to all who responded with suggestions regarding the rough running of the H20 after replacing the headgasket. well, i figured that part out as soon as i removed the valve cover again. i did not follow the service manual when re-assembling the head. i should have. when first i did it, i torqued the head down, and THEN installed the rocker assembly. wrong move. the head nuts should be hand tight, then install the rocker shaft assembly, hand tight, THEN torque the head. the reason for my misfire was that somehow the rocker shaft assembly had worked its way away from the head, and the last cylinder's valve's were not opening properly. soooooooooooooo..... i put it together the right way the second time, and now it runs great (GREAT!). > > except one thing.... it overheats at idle after about 60 seconds. the thermostat (brand new 180 degree) does not seem to open until it's too late. the temp is up around 220, and the radiator is not even warm. if i remove the thermostat, the radiator warms right up. circulation seems good, unless there is a thermostat in. i tried 2 different 180 t-stats, and the same thing. > > i drove it about one mile with no t-stat, and it got right up to 220 again. > > the radiator is a 3 row, recently re-done. the water pump does not leak. and after filling and re-fillling the radiator several times now, it's pretty darn clean. > > i have an electric fan, but if the radiator doesn't get warm, alot of good it does. > > i have no clue. > > still. > > steve > 675MIZU > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From fergus06 at socal.rr.com Sun Mar 29 06:45:50 2009 From: fergus06 at socal.rr.com (Fergus OFarrell) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 06:45:50 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] H-20 running rough, another idea Message-ID: <00df01c9b074$b35e33c0$96603143@fergus031a2176> (sorry, I have the digest version so maybe this has already been said) My guess is one or more of the carb mounting bolts needs re-tightening now that the engine has warmed up and run for a bit. You might be sucking air thru a intake gasket leak, makng one cyl run very lean. Fergus O a little late for this weekend, but I have an old timing lite and a newer dial-back unit you can use if that'll help. I'll be in Glendale next Sunday early, more info in a PM. From ronnie.day at gmail.com Sun Mar 29 07:27:22 2009 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 09:27:22 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Carpet Install Question Message-ID: <2faaebf80903290727r16396bf4jd61b68b4c330cc33@mail.gmail.com> I ordered a carpet kit from Les and can't out make head nor tails out of it. Even my wife, who's very good at jigsaw puzzles, drew a blank. I should be able to talk to Les Monday, but I need to get the car drivable before then because I have an appointment on Monday to get the exhaust done. The kit has 5 pieces. The largest is shaped a bit like a manta ray with a split tail. and two smaller roughly square pieces (baby mantas?) I'm thinking the large piece has to go under the dash and along the driveline tunnel, but I can't figure out how (no bound holes for the shift lever or E-Brake handle), and I think the smaller pieces go under the seats? Then there are two long rectangular pieces (one with a heel pad - driver's side obviously) that have to go in the footwells, but they just don't seem to fit regardless of how I put them in. The bag it all came in had a sticker that read 6870 Datsun Roadster so I'm thinking it's the correct kit. It's got to be (inexperienced) installer error. Any ideas? -- Ron From mark at dealermats.com Sun Mar 29 08:07:30 2009 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:07:30 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Carpet Install Question In-Reply-To: <2faaebf80903290727r16396bf4jd61b68b4c330cc33@mail.gmail.com> References: <2faaebf80903290727r16396bf4jd61b68b4c330cc33@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3F84F6D9-A7FF-4AB9-972D-6B3B4388D86A@dealermats.com> It has bee many years but from what I remember the long footwell ones go in first, and go all the way under the seats. Put the heelpad where it should go under the pedals and go from there. The tunnel piece has the split part at the front of the car (mine had a pad where your driver shoe would rub on the side of the tunnel) Your kit was probably different from mine, but close. If you look on Deans page he has them laid out in the correct spots. Good Luck Mark From tputland at charter.net Sun Mar 29 14:09:00 2009 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:09:00 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts Message-ID: <20090329170900.1B7HO.1673292.root@mp07> I am thinking that I want to use new bolts for the brake pistons and suspension spindles when I put the new/refurbished parts on my 1600 this spring. I did some searching on the 311.org site but didn't find any thing regarding caliper bolts. A couple people out there sell bolt kits. Does either have the bolts for the front brakes and/or suspension? Or does any one know where else I might buy these bolts? Or is my best bet to try the hardware store? TIA Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning From eddietude at socal.rr.com Sun Mar 29 14:39:46 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:39:46 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts In-Reply-To: <20090329170900.1B7HO.1673292.root@mp07> References: <20090329170900.1B7HO.1673292.root@mp07> Message-ID: <49CFEAA2.7040608@socal.rr.com> Tim, I replaced ALL of my suspension bolts when I rebuilt my car. Use only GRADE 8 bolts, and you can get them from McMaster.com Osh also carries a decent supply of bolts as well. I don't remember the exact size, but if you bring bolts to home depot, they have a "sizer" there. Osh does as well. Eddie Tim wrote: > I am thinking that I want to use new bolts for the brake pistons and suspension spindles when I put the new/refurbished parts on my 1600 this spring. > > I did some searching on the 311.org site but didn't find any thing regarding caliper bolts. > > A couple people out there sell bolt kits. Does either have the bolts for the front brakes and/or suspension? Or does any one know where else I might buy these bolts? > > Or is my best bet to try the hardware store? > > TIA > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From speeddemonrs at cox.net Sun Mar 29 15:42:15 2009 From: speeddemonrs at cox.net (speeddemonrs at cox.net) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:42:15 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Front axel hub & seal In-Reply-To: <49CFEAA2.7040608@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <20090329184215.12HS1.357872.imail@fed1rmwml28> Hi All - So I have taken apart my front axels to do the brake conversion and all seems to be going well (thanks to all for your suggestions, recommendations and such), however... I am trying my best to disassemble the hub to be able to clean the bearings and re-pack with new axel grease. The problem is with the rubber seal at the inside side of the housing. Looking at the service manual and seeing the individual parts, it does not look like there would be anything in particular holding it in place (other then the crown nut on the opposite end). I would rather not damage the thing trying to take it out, but cannot see how to get it out without causing some damage to the seal. It seems that trying to clean the bearings (still inside) would be a difficult undertaking since so many have previously mentioned to make sure to remove ALL old grease prior to repacking as old grease and new grease donbt "play well" together and will cause premature failure/breakdown of the new grease. I have tried taking a thin tipped flat screwdriver and prying at the edges to get under it, but it seems hard, like there is something else there stopping it from being pried up. I have also tried pushing it out through the housing, with similar results. So my friends... Suggestions? From eddietude at socal.rr.com Sun Mar 29 15:47:17 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:47:17 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Front axel hub & seal In-Reply-To: <20090329184215.12HS1.357872.imail@fed1rmwml28> References: <20090329184215.12HS1.357872.imail@fed1rmwml28> Message-ID: <49CFFA75.8@socal.rr.com> Personally, I would NOT re-use an old seal. We're talking about a very critical part, that isn't that expensive, (or it shouldn't be). If it fails later on from re-use, it could ruin your bearings... JMHO. Eddie speeddemonrs at cox.net wrote: > Hi All - > > So I have taken apart my front axels to do the brake conversion and all seems > to be going well (thanks to all for your suggestions, recommendations and > such), however... > > I am trying my best to disassemble the hub to be able to clean the bearings > and re-pack with new axel grease. The problem is with the rubber seal at the > inside side of the housing. Looking at the service manual and seeing the > individual parts, it does not look like there would be anything in particular > holding it in place (other then the crown nut on the opposite end). I would > rather not damage the thing trying to take it out, but cannot see how to get > it out without causing some damage to the seal. It seems that trying to clean > the bearings (still inside) would be a difficult undertaking since so many > have previously mentioned to make sure to remove ALL old grease prior to > repacking as old grease and new grease donbt "play well" together and will > cause premature failure/breakdown of the new grease. > > I have tried taking a thin tipped flat screwdriver and prying at the edges to > get under it, but it seems hard, like there is something else there stopping > it from being pried up. I have also tried pushing it out through the housing, > with similar results. > > So my friends... Suggestions? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From reblues at gmail.com Sun Mar 29 17:06:25 2009 From: reblues at gmail.com (reblues@gmail) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:06:25 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Front axel hub & seal References: <20090329184215.12HS1.357872.imail@fed1rmwml28> Message-ID: Here is an old trick for removing the inner seal. Put the hub back on the spindle, without the outer bearing. Put the crown nut back on. Pull the hub so the nut is against the inner bearing. Now grab the hub, push back in a few inches and give it a quick snatch. May take a few times, but the seal should pop out clean. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 5:42 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Front axel hub & seal > Hi All - > > So I have taken apart my front axels to do the brake conversion and all > seems > to be going well (thanks to all for your suggestions, recommendations and > such), however... > > I am trying my best to disassemble the hub to be able to clean the > bearings > and re-pack with new axel grease. The problem is with the rubber seal at > the > inside side of the housing. Looking at the service manual and seeing the > individual parts, it does not look like there would be anything in > particular > holding it in place (other then the crown nut on the opposite end). I > would > rather not damage the thing trying to take it out, but cannot see how to > get > it out without causing some damage to the seal. It seems that trying to > clean > the bearings (still inside) would be a difficult undertaking since so many > have previously mentioned to make sure to remove ALL old grease prior to > repacking as old grease and new grease donbt "play well" together and > will > cause premature failure/breakdown of the new grease. > > I have tried taking a thin tipped flat screwdriver and prying at the edges > to > get under it, but it seems hard, like there is something else there > stopping > it from being pried up. I have also tried pushing it out through the > housing, > with similar results. > > So my friends... Suggestions? From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sun Mar 29 16:13:40 2009 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:13:40 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Front axel hub & seal In-Reply-To: References: <20090329184215.12HS1.357872.imail@fed1rmwml28> Message-ID: <8CB7EDB2198A1DC-DC0-425C@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com> The 311 site has a how-to on the wheel bearings in the Tech Wiki section. Also gives NAPA part # 18962 for the seal. Linda -----Original Message----- From: reblues at gmail To: speeddemonrs at cox.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 5:06 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Front axel hub & seal Here is an old trick for removing the inner seal. Put the hub back on the spindle, without the outer bearing. Put the crown nut back on. Pull the hub so the nut is against the inner bearing. Now grab the hub, push back in a few inches and give it a quick snatch. May take a few times, but the seal should pop out clean.? ? Richard? ----- Original Message ----- From: ? To: ? Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 5:42 PM? Subject: [Roadsters] Front axel hub & seal? ? > Hi All -? >? > So I have taken apart my front axels to do the brake conversion and all > seems? > to be going well (thanks to all for your suggestions, recommendations and? > such), however...? >? > I am trying my best to disassemble the hub to be able to clean the > bearings? > and re-pack with new axel grease. The problem is with the rubber seal at > the? > inside side of the housing. Looking at the service manual and seeing the? > individual parts, it does not look like there would be anything in > particular? > holding it in place (other then the crown nut on the opposite end). I > would? > rather not damage the thing trying to take it out, but cannot see how to > get? > it out without causing some damage to the seal. It seems that trying to > clean? > the bearings (still inside) would be a difficult undertaking since so many? > have previously mentioned to make sure to remove ALL old grease prior to? > repacking as old grease and new grease donbt "play well" together and > will? > cause premature failure/breakdown of the new grease.? >? > I have tried taking a thin tipped flat screwdriver and prying at the edges > to? > get under it, but it seems hard, like there is something else there > stopping? > it from being pried up. I have also tried pushing it out through the > housing,? > with similar results.? >? > So my friends... Suggestions?? ________________________________________? Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? ? You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net? ? Datsun-roadsters mailing list? ? http://www.team.net/archive? ? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters? From dynaguy54 at hotmail.com Sun Mar 29 17:09:30 2009 From: dynaguy54 at hotmail.com (Pat Mahoney) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 17:09:30 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts In-Reply-To: <20090329170900.1B7HO.1673292.root@mp07> References: <20090329170900.1B7HO.1673292.root@mp07> Message-ID: Tim, I used to sell bolt packs. There is a complete listing at the 311s.org site in the PMWIKI section. Look under Restoration tips, then Frame bolts, What size bolts do our little cars take. The caliper bolts are 1/2-20X 1-1/4" with lock washer 4ea. I highly recommend against buying bolts from Home Depot and most local hardware stores. There is a tremendous amount of counterfeit gr.8 fasteners in the market place. A quality supplier should be able to provide you with lot traceability and certification that it meets specs. Hope this helps Pat Mahoney '69 sr20 project > Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:09:00 -0700 > From: tputland at charter.net > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts > > I am thinking that I want to use new bolts for the brake pistons and suspension spindles when I put the new/refurbished parts on my 1600 this spring. > > I did some searching on the 311.org site but didn't find any thing regarding caliper bolts. > > A couple people out there sell bolt kits. Does either have the bolts for the front brakes and/or suspension? Or does any one know where else I might buy these bolts? > > Or is my best bet to try the hardware store? > > TIA > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail.. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_ WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme From eddietude at socal.rr.com Sun Mar 29 18:11:07 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:11:07 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts In-Reply-To: References: <20090329170900.1B7HO.1673292.root@mp07> Message-ID: <49D01C2B.9090500@socal.rr.com> Pat, What about McMaster's bolts? Eddie Pat Mahoney wrote: > Tim, I used to sell bolt packs. There is a complete listing at the 311s.org > site in the PMWIKI section. Look under Restoration tips, then Frame bolts, > What size bolts do our little cars take. The caliper bolts are 1/2-20X 1-1/4" > with lock washer 4ea. I highly recommend against buying bolts from Home Depot > and most local hardware stores. There is a tremendous amount of counterfeit > gr.8 fasteners in the market place. A quality supplier should be able to > provide you with lot traceability and certification that it meets specs. Hope > this helps Pat Mahoney '69 sr20 project > > >> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:09:00 -0700 >> From: tputland at charter.net >> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Subject: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts >> >> I am thinking that I want to use new bolts for the brake pistons and >> > suspension spindles when I put the new/refurbished parts on my 1600 this > spring. > >> I did some searching on the 311.org site but didn't find any thing regarding >> > caliper bolts. > >> A couple people out there sell bolt kits. Does either have the bolts for the >> > front brakes and/or suspension? Or does any one know where else I might buy > these bolts? > >> Or is my best bet to try the hardware store? >> >> TIA >> >> Tim >> Belleville, WI. >> '70 SPL AND SRL >> >> > _________________________________________________________________ > Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail.. > http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_ > WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From 9laser3 at bright.net Sun Mar 29 18:17:39 2009 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:17:39 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts In-Reply-To: <49D01C2B.9090500@socal.rr.com> References: <20090329170900.1B7HO.1673292.root@mp07> <49D01C2B.9090500@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <001001c9b0d5$53a143d0$fae3cb70$@net> About 15 years ago, I was a buyer at a company that sold forged hardware and equipment to the government. All the bolts had to be certified. McMaster Carr was always willing to sell me bolts, but could never come up with the required certifications. Not sure I'd trust my front suspension with bolts from them. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Eddie Pat, What about McMaster's bolts? Eddie From andycost at embarqmail.com Sun Mar 29 18:13:39 2009 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:13:39 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts In-Reply-To: <001001c9b0d5$53a143d0$fae3cb70$@net> Message-ID: I use whatever bolts I can find in the big blue bucket in my garage. Andy From daveandlindab at comcast.net Sun Mar 29 18:58:15 2009 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:58:15 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts In-Reply-To: <001001c9b0d5$53a143d0$fae3cb70$@net> Message-ID: Generally I found the safest bet to be either a NAPA store or a place like Fastenal http://www.fastenal.com they are in L.A. Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: Paul [mailto:9laser3 at bright.net] Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 9:18 PM To: 'Eddie'; 'Pat Mahoney' Cc: 'datsun roadster' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts About 15 years ago, I was a buyer at a company that sold forged hardware and equipment to the government. All the bolts had to be certified. McMaster Carr was always willing to sell me bolts, but could never come up with the required certifications. Not sure I'd trust my front suspension with bolts from them. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Eddie Pat, What about McMaster's bolts? Eddie From dynaguy54 at hotmail.com Sun Mar 29 19:07:13 2009 From: dynaguy54 at hotmail.com (Pat Mahoney) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:07:13 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts In-Reply-To: <001001c9b0d5$53a143d0$fae3cb70$@net> References: <20090329170900.1B7HO.1673292.root@mp07> <49D01C2B.9090500@socal.rr.com> <001001c9b0d5$53a143d0$fae3cb70$@net> Message-ID: I've been an industrial fastener sales rep for 30+ years. In 1995 the Federal Government created the Fastener Quality Act because of the problem of counterfeit graded fasteners in the marketplace. This is Public Law#101-592. In it states that graded fasteners placed in 'critical' applications will have certification that they meet chemical and physical specifications and be lot traceable to the foundry. You have the right to ask for lot #'s and certification when you purchase graded fasteners. If your supplier cannot or will not provide these, I would be very concerned about the quality. One other way to protect yourself is to ask for the country of origin. This is required for all products for sale in the U.S. If indeed the fasteners are of U.S. manufacture, you have a good chance they are legit. American made, or made in North America are not necessarily U.S. made. There are Canadian manufactures that have made a list of suspect quality fasteners. I have recently as last year attended a seminar put on by the leaders of the U.S. fastener industry regarding this problem. The markings for grades are U.S. specs. Foreign countries do not have controls set in place to make sure that their manufactures are producing fasteners that meet the specs that the head marking suggests. The problem of counterfeit graded fasteners is still rampant. Buyer Beware! Sorry for the soapbox, but it really ticks me off that there is so much dangerous junk in our marketplace. Pat Mahoney > From: 9laser3 at bright.net > To: eddietude at socal.rr.com; dynaguy54 at hotmail.com > CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: RE: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts > Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:17:39 -0400 > > About 15 years ago, I was a buyer at a company that sold forged hardware > and equipment to the government. All the bolts had to be certified. > McMaster Carr was always willing to sell me bolts, but could never come up > with the required certifications. Not sure I'd trust my front suspension > with bolts from them. > > Paul > Ohio > > -----Original Message----- > On Behalf Of Eddie > > Pat, > > What about McMaster's bolts? > > Eddie > > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live SkyDrive: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_032009 From jklingman at stny.rr.com Sun Mar 29 19:11:25 2009 From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:11:25 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Import Carlisle Message-ID: <9E34B3EA093D4CD289197D63C45ED0B4@yourhryuc9xa71> Cars at Carlisle (PA) , Import-Kit / Replicar is May 15-17. Just 46 days away. Classic and specialty Japanese vehicles are the feature this year. Check out the Import show page, it is really pretty. Saw 2 roadsters last year there, the parking officials told them to park with the other MG's and were confused when they parked over with the 2 Z's. Looking forward to seeing many more Datsuns this year. There is a SCCA mini autocross, drive or get a great view from the overlook. Also a vendor field. Friends at Cars at Carlisle have asked us to share that they do love to have clubs come and do extra things for them such as the free use of large tents. Many clubs hold their National Meet at Carlisle events. Also asked us to drop this early reminder to the list and ask that you share the info with your friends. Gloria and John Klingman Sidney, NY '68 2000 "Spike" From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com Sun Mar 29 19:51:11 2009 From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] H20 Redux Message-ID: <70685.82191.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hi everyone this is the part where i tell you what an idiot i was, again. hindsight being what it is, this is what i learned about my "overheating" fiasco. the bottom line is that it was not overheating at all. in fact, it wasn't even getting hot. i should have thought that the fact it (the guage) made it made it to 240 so quickly was fishy. too, i should have understood the significance of the nearly simultaneous "peaking" of the gas guage. the thing is, the gas guage moved so quickly to that position. the temp guage took almost a minute. but it is that they were both doing it, that should have alerted me. i bought an infra red temp sensor, and started the engine. the temp guage rose to 240 in about a minute, and the front of the head, next to where the temp sensor mounts was reading 115. that was the first time i actually let the temp guage keep going without turning off the engine. that's when i noticed they were both pegged. it seems that when the gas and temp guages aren't functioning properly, either they both go all the way "off" (the exteme left) or all the way "on" (the extreme right). that they were the same was the clue i missed. i thought my car was about to overheat. i removed that little electrical thingie, cleaned all the contacts, including where it mounts, and re-installed. voila. guages that work. i drove the car for the first time today, in about 6 months. i blasted up the 110, and back down. woohoo! it runs great, and never got above 190. thank you all for your help in trying to diagnose my non existent over heating. steve 675MIZU From RacerY at comcast.net Sun Mar 29 20:07:53 2009 From: RacerY at comcast.net (Toby B) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:07:53 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 122 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1a8733b20903292007q42ff73d6qe335f24f83022f6b@mail.gmail.com> " I highly recommend against buying bolts from Home Depot and most local hardware stores. There is a tremendous amount of counterfeit gr.8 fasteners in the market place." Amen. And that's increasingly true of metric fasteners, too. The worst part, anymore, is that 'Made in China' bolts can be perfectly fine- or they can be dimensionally wrong, metallurgically flawed, and dangerous. And there's no easy way to tell. We tested some stuff to destruction recently, and some of the uglier parts from questionable sources tested the best. And some nice- looking pieces from reputable vendors were marginal at best. Frankly, unless there's something wrong with the fasteners that were holding your car together, I'd re- use them. They're not going to fail of old age... Toby Seattle. From ronnie.day at gmail.com Sun Mar 29 22:02:55 2009 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:02:55 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] H20 Redux In-Reply-To: <70685.82191.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <70685.82191.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2faaebf80903292202l244580abh58c23eddafa5dcdd@mail.gmail.com> Good deal. Not trusting 40 year old OEM gauges is why I installed BIG (2 7/8?) AutoMeter Water Temp and Oil Pressure gauges. Both are 270 degree sweep so you can see the general area the readings are in at a glance. My car runs right at 180 on even the hottest Texas summer days with hot oil pressure at 60 and around 15 psi at idle. FWIW, Ron On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 9:51 PM, steven boortz wrote: > hi everyone > this is the part where i tell you what an idiot i was, again. B hindsight being what it is, this is what i learned about my "overheating" fiasco. > the bottom line is that it was not overheating at all. B in fact, it wasn't even getting hot. B i should have thought that the fact it (the guage) made it made it to 240 so quickly was fishy. B too, i should have understood the significance of the nearly simultaneous "peaking" of the gas guage. B the thing is, the gas guage moved so quickly to that position. B the temp guage took almost a minute. B but it is that they were both doing it, that should have alerted me. > i bought an infra red temp sensor, and started the engine. B the temp guage rose to 240 in about a minute, and the front of the head, next to where the temp sensor mounts was reading 115. B that was the first time i actually let the temp guage keep going without turning off the engine. B that's when i noticed they were both pegged. > it seems that when the gas and temp guages aren't functioning properly, either they both go all the way "off" (the exteme left) or all the way "on" (the extreme right). B that they were the same was the clue i missed. B i thought my car was about to overheat. > i removed that little electrical thingie, cleaned all the contacts, including where it mounts, and re-installed. B voila. B guages that work. > i drove the car for the first time today, in about 6 months. B i blasted up the 110, and back down. B woohoo! > it runs great, and never got above 190. > > thank you all for your help in trying to diagnose my non existent over heating. > > steve > 675MIZU > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net B http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ronnie.day at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- Ron From aultgc at att.net Mon Mar 30 00:18:07 2009 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 02:18:07 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 122 References: <1a8733b20903292007q42ff73d6qe335f24f83022f6b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: In the power industry, we are skeptical of any steel supplied by China, especially fasteners. Too much shoddy manufacture. Although it can't hurt to replace fasteners if one is certain he/she is getting quality parts, unless there is a reason to think the bolts are bad, I'd re-use them. Head bolts on a 2000? No, I'd replace them, but most other fasteners on the car should be all right. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Toby B" To: Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 122 >" I highly recommend against buying bolts from Home Depot > and most local hardware stores. There is a tremendous amount of > counterfeit > gr.8 fasteners in the market place." > > Amen. And that's increasingly true of metric fasteners, too. > > The worst part, anymore, is that 'Made in China' bolts can be perfectly > fine- > or they can be dimensionally wrong, metallurgically flawed, and dangerous. > And there's no easy way to tell. We tested some stuff to destruction > recently, and some of the uglier parts from questionable sources > tested the best. > And some nice- looking pieces from reputable vendors were marginal at > best. > > Frankly, unless there's something wrong with the fasteners that were > holding > your car together, I'd re- use them. They're not going to fail of old > age... > > Toby > Seattle. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From tputland at charter.net Mon Mar 30 09:55:15 2009 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 9:55:15 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Spotted!--by my brother Message-ID: <20090330125515.N0T2T.3561909.root@mp17> In Marysville, CA last Saturday. A very nice white 1600. Not sure if it was a low or high windscreen (the pic he sent was from the rear) but it was pre 70. He said the car was in great shape. Any one on this list? Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning From datrock at centurytel.net Mon Mar 30 11:31:24 2009 From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:31:24 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 5th Gear noise Message-ID: <49D10FFC.1020400@centurytel.net> Hi everyone, I'm curious to hear if anyone that has experience the Neutral 5th Gear had any howling noise after it happened. This past weekend I just pulled the engine/transmisison from a 70 srl that came from an estate, after some steering and brake work it drives great, but when 5th gear is engaged I experience a howling noise and the car seamed to have a loss of power. The car still excellerates in 5th but things do not feel or sound right and reverse still works too. At crusing speed I can shift from 4th to 5th then back to 4th and the noise changes with the shifting. So now I have the tail housing off the transmission and it has the double nut and the gears in the tail look fine, so now it is time to break loose the nuts and see if the 5th gear has splines or not, I'm saying not! I've rebuilt a few 5 speeds so I'm familiar with the insides of them, I've just never experience the howling in 5th gear before... thanks Bill Cole From tputland at charter.net Mon Mar 30 12:56:59 2009 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:56:59 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090330155659.62T7B.3614757.root@mp13> Thanks to all who replied. Most replies were exactly what I was looking for. I was hoping Pat had bolt packs left but I guess you snooze you loose. I don't know if I have enough good original bolts left to make up a full set--it will depend on how the set looks that come off of my 1600. The bolts that came off the part car were pretty rusty and I wonder and their strength and reliability. Thanks again all. Tim ---- Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: ============= In the power industry, we are skeptical of any steel supplied by China, especially fasteners. Too much shoddy manufacture. Although it can't hurt to replace fasteners if one is certain he/she is getting quality parts, unless there is a reason to think the bolts are bad, I'd re-use them. Head bolts on a 2000? No, I'd replace them, but most other fasteners on the car should be all right. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Toby B" To: Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 122 >" I highly recommend against buying bolts from Home Depot > and most local hardware stores. There is a tremendous amount of > counterfeit > gr.8 fasteners in the market place." > > Amen. And that's increasingly true of metric fasteners, too. > > The worst part, anymore, is that 'Made in China' bolts can be perfectly > fine- > or they can be dimensionally wrong, metallurgically flawed, and dangerous. > And there's no easy way to tell. We tested some stuff to destruction > recently, and some of the uglier parts from questionable sources > tested the best. > And some nice- looking pieces from reputable vendors were marginal at > best. > > Frankly, unless there's something wrong with the fasteners that were > holding > your car together, I'd re- use them. They're not going to fail of old > age... > > Toby > Seattle. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as tputland at charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datrock at centurytel.net Mon Mar 30 15:32:51 2009 From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:32:51 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 5th Gear noise In-Reply-To: <49D10FFC.1020400@centurytel.net> References: <49D10FFC.1020400@centurytel.net> Message-ID: <49D14892.8030805@centurytel.net> The countershaft bearing in the centerplate is destroyed, I found some bits of bearing cage in the tail housing. So then, once I opened up the main case it was obvious where the material came from. By the way the bearing looks, I doubt if it would have lasted much longer before it caused major problems. This is a brass syncro transmission so I hoping it might have the splined 5th, once I round up another 1-1/2" wrench I'll find out.. Bill From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Mar 30 18:02:20 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:02:20 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Front axel hub & seal In-Reply-To: <20090329184215.12HS1.357872.imail@fed1rmwml28> References: <49CFEAA2.7040608@socal.rr.com> <20090329184215.12HS1.357872.imail@fed1rmwml28> Message-ID: <6F6769E0486E422CB2AA0975D0620F5F@xp> Seals are usually only a couple bucks. Replace 'em. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of speeddemonrs at cox.net Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 3:42 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Front axel hub & seal Hi All - So I have taken apart my front axels to do the brake conversion and all seems to be going well (thanks to all for your suggestions, recommendations and such), however... I am trying my best to disassemble the hub to be able to clean the bearings and re-pack with new axel grease. The problem is with the rubber seal at the inside side of the housing. Looking at the service manual and seeing the individual parts, it does not look like there would be anything in particular holding it in place (other then the crown nut on the opposite end). I would rather not damage the thing trying to take it out, but cannot see how to get it out without causing some damage to the seal. It seems that trying to clean the bearings (still inside) would be a difficult undertaking since so many have previously mentioned to make sure to remove ALL old grease prior to repacking as old grease and new grease donbt "play well" together and will cause premature failure/breakdown of the new grease. I have tried taking a thin tipped flat screwdriver and prying at the edges to get under it, but it seems hard, like there is something else there stopping it from being pried up. I have also tried pushing it out through the housing, with similar results. So my friends... Suggestions? Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Mar 30 18:07:02 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:07:02 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts In-Reply-To: <20090330155659.62T7B.3614757.root@mp13> References: <20090330155659.62T7B.3614757.root@mp13> Message-ID: <9A18347623E241D5843E32F7435E1554@xp> Wasn't someone (a vendor?) putting bolt packs together? Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:57 PM To: Gary and Cindy Ault; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts Thanks to all who replied. Most replies were exactly what I was looking for. I was hoping Pat had bolt packs left but I guess you snooze you loose. I don't know if I have enough good original bolts left to make up a full set--it will depend on how the set looks that come off of my 1600. The bolts that came off the part car were pretty rusty and I wonder and their strength and reliability. Thanks again all. Tim From johnsugar at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 30 19:38:36 2009 From: johnsugar at sbcglobal.net (John Sugar) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 70 SRL311 For Sale - Solvang Ready Message-ID: <616193.35784.qm@web83105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I am selling my 70 SRL... he isn't getting out enough, and deserves to be on the road, not always in the garage. He runs beautifully, and has always been a northern Calif. car. I'm the 4th owner, and the third since the car was restored in the mid-80's. Since then, I believe it's traveled around 30,000 miles. In the ten years I've had it, we kept up with maintenance, and repairs, including suspension parts, new (used) rear end(from Rallye), Z-Therapy carbs, electronic ignition, brake brace, various parts like fuel pump, clutch master and slave cylinders, alternator, and on it goes. Last year I had new carpeting and stay-fast top installed, with zip out rear window. The radio was tuned up a few years ago, and the clock keeps great time. The front weatherstrip for the top needs installation, I have it, and just haven't gotten to it. It also needs new tape to connect the defroster boot to the dash outlets. The boot is in good shape, and all parts are in place. I just couldn't get my children, with hands smaller than mine, to get under there. One of the headlight buckets is bright chrome, and one is matte chrome. I'm told it was from a 69. The gas cap and radio antenna are aftermarket, not stock. The smog pump filter is also not stock, and gan be cleaned, for those inclined to leave the pump on. If you know of someone looking for a roadster in great shape, please let them know. I'm asking $7,500, and I'm pretty firm. Anyone interested should contact me to see the car. It, and I, are in Sacramento, CA. Pictures are on Webshots at: http://good-times.webshots.com/album/570740493YLdKVb John Sugar johnsugar at sbcglobal.net From aultgc at att.net Tue Mar 31 00:17:45 2009 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 02:17:45 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts References: <20090330155659.62T7B.3614757.root@mp13> <9A18347623E241D5843E32F7435E1554@xp> Message-ID: <7AD210D862CD410EB612DBBA1B1A542C@gaxp1> I bought some stainless U20 carb screws (weird thread) from eBay store MMS and Accessories -- nice. He claims to have anything you need in stainless or regular finish. He's worth a try. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts > Wasn't someone (a vendor?) putting bolt packs together? > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:57 PM > To: Gary and Cindy Ault; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts > > Thanks to all who replied. Most replies were exactly what I was looking > for. > I was hoping Pat had bolt packs left but I guess you snooze you loose. > > I don't know if I have enough good original bolts left to make up a full > set--it will depend on how the set looks that come off of my 1600. The > bolts > that came off the part car were pretty rusty and I wonder and their > strength > and reliability. > > Thanks again all. > > Tim > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net Tue Mar 31 07:58:20 2009 From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:58:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts Message-ID: <29212917.1238511501093.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Tim, I think that Fairlady Parts (Gerardo & Lou) now have bolt packs if you are still looking. Good luck, Dewey -----Original Message----- >From: Tim >Sent: Mar 30, 2009 3:56 PM >To: Gary and Cindy Ault , datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts > >Thanks to all who replied. Most replies were exactly what I was looking for. I was hoping Pat had bolt packs left but I guess you snooze you loose. > >I don't know if I have enough good original bolts left to make up a full set--it will depend on how the set looks that come off of my 1600. The bolts that came off the part car were pretty rusty and I wonder and their strength and reliability. > >Thanks again all. > >Tim > > >---- Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > >============= >In the power industry, we are skeptical of any steel supplied by China, >especially fasteners. Too much shoddy manufacture. > >Although it can't hurt to replace fasteners if one is certain he/she is >getting quality parts, unless there is a reason to think the bolts are bad, >I'd re-use them. Head bolts on a 2000? No, I'd replace them, but most >other fasteners on the car should be all right. > >Gary > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Toby B" >To: >Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 10:07 PM >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 122 > > >>" I highly recommend against buying bolts from Home Depot >> and most local hardware stores. There is a tremendous amount of >> counterfeit >> gr.8 fasteners in the market place." >> >> Amen. And that's increasingly true of metric fasteners, too. >> >> The worst part, anymore, is that 'Made in China' bolts can be perfectly >> fine- >> or they can be dimensionally wrong, metallurgically flawed, and dangerous. >> And there's no easy way to tell. We tested some stuff to destruction >> recently, and some of the uglier parts from questionable sources >> tested the best. >> And some nice- looking pieces from reputable vendors were marginal at >> best. >> >> Frankly, unless there's something wrong with the fasteners that were >> holding >> your car together, I'd re- use them. They're not going to fail of old >> age... >> >> Toby >> Seattle. >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >You are subscribed as tputland at charter.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as hahlbohmd at earthlink.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From slowboy at cox.net Tue Mar 31 09:43:03 2009 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:43:03 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts In-Reply-To: <9A18347623E241D5843E32F7435E1554@xp> References: <20090330155659.62T7B.3614757.root@mp13> <9A18347623E241D5843E32F7435E1554@xp> Message-ID: <588C40D0D9DF485294C4708BA18A81B0@m7170n> Yep, here is the thread at 311's http://311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7703 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 6:07 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts Wasn't someone (a vendor?) putting bolt packs together? Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:57 PM To: Gary and Cindy Ault; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts Thanks to all who replied. Most replies were exactly what I was looking for. I was hoping Pat had bolt packs left but I guess you snooze you loose. I don't know if I have enough good original bolts left to make up a full set--it will depend on how the set looks that come off of my 1600. The bolts that came off the part car were pretty rusty and I wonder and their strength and reliability. Thanks again all. Tim From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Mar 31 12:25:04 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:25:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts In-Reply-To: <946187007.1735031238527456906.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <739595838.1735331238527504688.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Ah-ha! Problem was that I searched the Fairlady website, and the bolt packs aren't listed. Oh, Gerardo......... Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "SlowBoy" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:43:03 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts Yep, here is the thread at 311's http://311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7703 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 6:07 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts Wasn't someone (a vendor?) putting bolt packs together? Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:57 PM To: Gary and Cindy Ault; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts Thanks to all who replied. Most replies were exactly what I was looking for. I was hoping Pat had bolt packs left but I guess you snooze you loose. I don't know if I have enough good original bolts left to make up a full set--it will depend on how the set looks that come off of my 1600. The bolts that came off the part car were pretty rusty and I wonder and their strength and reliability. Thanks again all. Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From timbob_fisher at yahoo.com Tue Mar 31 16:07:53 2009 From: timbob_fisher at yahoo.com (tim fisher) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:07:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <296147.93342.qm@web54111.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I like Ace and Sears for graded bolts....I have had some good luck with them. I suppose they could be getting them from China, but, honestly have not used them anywhere critical....exhaust manifold bolts and such.... --- On Sun, 3/29/09, dave wrote: > From: dave > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts > To: "'Eddie'" > Cc: "'datsun roadster'" > Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 8:58 PM > Generally I found the safest bet to be either a NAPA store > or a place like > Fastenal http://www.fastenal.com they are in L.A. > > Dave Brisco > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul [mailto:9laser3 at bright.net] > Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 9:18 PM > To: 'Eddie'; 'Pat Mahoney' > Cc: 'datsun roadster' > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts > > > About 15 years ago, I was a buyer at a company that sold > forged hardware > and equipment to the government. All the bolts had to be > certified. > McMaster Carr was always willing to sell me bolts, but > could never come up > with the required certifications. Not sure I'd trust > my front suspension > with bolts from them. > > Paul > Ohio > > -----Original Message----- > On Behalf Of Eddie > > Pat, > > What about McMaster's bolts? > > Eddie > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as timbob_fisher at yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From mkiisupra at hotmail.com Tue Mar 31 16:40:51 2009 From: mkiisupra at hotmail.com (Eric Gillis) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:40:51 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] 68-70 R16 Water Pump Blues In-Reply-To: <296147.93342.qm@web54111.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <296147.93342.qm@web54111.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Listers- I have a quandry about the above mentioned part. I have located and accidentally purchased a water pump for my R16 rebuild. I quickly learned that it was the incorrect pump (wrong hub, correct casting, maybe for early 1600's or H20?) for the later motor. That was last summer, early in the rebuild... Fast-forward to the past two weeks. I haven't been able to locate a rebuilder who didn't either say the rebuild kits were unavailable or look at me like I was from Mars (napa) when I asked about a return and rebuild program (although the national napa site says they all do it). I have two late R16 pumps in need of a rebuild. The replacement is $290-310, yikes!! I was prepared to pay this (and may still need to) but the ghost of my depression-era grandpa dope-slapped me and suggested that I rebuild or investigate a cheaper alternative, and here I am. Any suggestions of successful R16 water pump rebuilders or replacements? All those who fell on to the floor laughing at the last question can get back into their seats. I am also open to any water pump/pulley/fan 'cocktails' using the other pulleys, fans, etc? The 'new' pump has a larger bolt pattern on the hub and only one 'step' to the center shaft, where the 'correct' pump has several 'steps' and the threaded center shaft where the old fan clutch used to go. FYI Thanks in advance, and does anyone carry bolt packs for engine bolts and screws?? Eric G _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail. is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 From twobeaners at earthlink.net Tue Mar 31 17:46:24 2009 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:46:24 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts References: <296147.93342.qm@web54111.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005301c9b263$48ff7f20$6400a8c0@LAP120> Quote: "McMaster Carr was always willing to sell me bolts, but could never come up with the required certifications." Does Gerardo provide a certification with his bolts? If he does, that would be great, then we could trust that they aren't from the crappy suppliers that can't or won't prove what they're selling. Mike Hudson - '67 Stroker / 5-speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "tim fisher" To: "'Eddie'" ; "dave" Cc: "'datsun roadster'" Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts > I like Ace and Sears for graded bolts....I have had some good luck with them. I suppose they could be getting them from China, but, honestly have not used them anywhere critical....exhaust manifold bolts and such.... > > > --- On Sun, 3/29/09, dave wrote: > > > From: dave > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts > > To: "'Eddie'" > > Cc: "'datsun roadster'" > > Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 8:58 PM > > Generally I found the safest bet to be either a NAPA store > > or a place like > > Fastenal http://www.fastenal.com they are in L.A. > > > > Dave Brisco > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Paul [mailto:9laser3 at bright.net] > > Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 9:18 PM > > To: 'Eddie'; 'Pat Mahoney' > > Cc: 'datsun roadster' > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts > > > > > > About 15 years ago, I was a buyer at a company that sold > > forged hardware > > and equipment to the government. All the bolts had to be > > certified. > > McMaster Carr was always willing to sell me bolts, but > > could never come up > > with the required certifications. Not sure I'd trust > > my front suspension > > with bolts from them. > > > > Paul > > Ohio > > > > -----Original Message----- > > On Behalf Of Eddie > > > > Pat, > > > > What about McMaster's bolts? > > > > Eddie > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as timbob_fisher at yahoo.com > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list From eddietude at socal.rr.com Tue Mar 31 17:10:52 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:10:52 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 68-70 R16 Water Pump Blues In-Reply-To: References: <296147.93342.qm@web54111.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49D2B10C.6040904@socal.rr.com> I've seen aftermarket water pumps for the Datsun roadster 1600 on NUMEROUS sites for around $50 or so. No need to spend $290 on a water pump, IMHO. But, those are aftermarket, NOT Nissan parts... Eddie Eric Gillis wrote: > Listers- > > > > I have a quandry about the above mentioned part. I have located and > accidentally purchased a water pump for my R16 rebuild. I quickly learned > that it was the incorrect pump (wrong hub, correct casting, maybe for early > 1600's or H20?) for the later motor. That was last summer, early in the > rebuild... > > > > Fast-forward to the past two weeks. I haven't been able to locate a rebuilder > who didn't either say the rebuild kits were unavailable or look at me like I > was from Mars (napa) when I asked about a return and rebuild program (although > the national napa site says they all do it). > > > > I have two late R16 pumps in need of a rebuild. The replacement is $290-310, > yikes!! I was prepared to pay this (and may still need to) but the ghost of > my depression-era grandpa dope-slapped me and suggested that I rebuild or > investigate a cheaper alternative, and here I am. > > > > Any suggestions of successful R16 water pump rebuilders or replacements? All > those who fell on to the floor laughing at the last question can get back into > their seats. > > > > I am also open to any water pump/pulley/fan 'cocktails' using the other > pulleys, fans, etc? > > > > The 'new' pump has a larger bolt pattern on the hub and only one 'step' to the > center shaft, where the 'correct' pump has several 'steps' and the threaded > center shaft where the old fan clutch used to go. FYI > > > > Thanks in advance, and does anyone carry bolt packs for engine bolts and > screws?? > > > > Eric G > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail. is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. > http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From aultgc at att.net Tue Mar 31 18:50:57 2009 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:50:57 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 68-70 R16 Water Pump Blues References: <296147.93342.qm@web54111.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <72628752D7BB49AFB1B73D4B7DE28D67@gaxp1> I'd check Hemmings Motor News. They list jsut about every service imaginable for old cars -- many more rare than our roadsters. May be a dry hole, but worth the few bucks a current copy will cost. (Makes an interesting read, too.) Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Gillis" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 6:40 PM Subject: [Roadsters] 68-70 R16 Water Pump Blues > Listers- > > > > I have a quandry about the above mentioned part. I have located and > accidentally purchased a water pump for my R16 rebuild. I quickly learned > that it was the incorrect pump (wrong hub, correct casting, maybe for > early > 1600's or H20?) for the later motor. That was last summer, early in the > rebuild... > > > > Fast-forward to the past two weeks. I haven't been able to locate a > rebuilder > who didn't either say the rebuild kits were unavailable or look at me like > I > was from Mars (napa) when I asked about a return and rebuild program > (although > the national napa site says they all do it). > > > > I have two late R16 pumps in need of a rebuild. The replacement is > $290-310, > yikes!! I was prepared to pay this (and may still need to) but the ghost > of > my depression-era grandpa dope-slapped me and suggested that I rebuild or > investigate a cheaper alternative, and here I am. > > > > Any suggestions of successful R16 water pump rebuilders or replacements? > All > those who fell on to the floor laughing at the last question can get back > into > their seats. > > > > I am also open to any water pump/pulley/fan 'cocktails' using the other > pulleys, fans, etc? > > > > The 'new' pump has a larger bolt pattern on the hub and only one 'step' to > the > center shaft, where the 'correct' pump has several 'steps' and the > threaded > center shaft where the old fan clutch used to go. FYI > > > > Thanks in advance, and does anyone carry bolt packs for engine bolts and > screws?? > > > > Eric G > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail. is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. > http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From pat at hornesystemstx.com Tue Mar 31 19:09:47 2009 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:09:47 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 68-70 R16 Water Pump Blues In-Reply-To: References: <296147.93342.qm@web54111.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49D2CCEB.6080300@hornesystemstx.com> Eric, Take your pump to a forklift shop and see if they can match the pump to one on a Nissan forklift with an H20 engine. I did that several years ago and got an exact match. As I recall it cost me under $50. Failing that, check the yellow pages for a shop to rebuild yours. If there isn't one listed search out a repair shop that works on older cars, they will probably know who can do the work for you. As I recall there is a shaft kit listed in the Roadster parts drawings, but I haven't tried to order one. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Eric Gillis, On 3/31/2009 6:40 PM: > Listers- > > > > I have a quandry about the above mentioned part. I have located and > accidentally purchased a water pump for my R16 rebuild. I quickly learned > that it was the incorrect pump (wrong hub, correct casting, maybe for early > 1600's or H20?) for the later motor. That was last summer, early in the > rebuild... > > > > Fast-forward to the past two weeks. I haven't been able to locate a rebuilder > who didn't either say the rebuild kits were unavailable or look at me like I > was from Mars (napa) when I asked about a return and rebuild program (although > the national napa site says they all do it). > > > > I have two late R16 pumps in need of a rebuild. The replacement is $290-310, > yikes!! I was prepared to pay this (and may still need to) but the ghost of > my depression-era grandpa dope-slapped me and suggested that I rebuild or > investigate a cheaper alternative, and here I am. > > > > Any suggestions of successful R16 water pump rebuilders or replacements? All > those who fell on to the floor laughing at the last question can get back into > their seats. > > > > I am also open to any water pump/pulley/fan 'cocktails' using the other > pulleys, fans, etc? > > > > The 'new' pump has a larger bolt pattern on the hub and only one 'step' to the > center shaft, where the 'correct' pump has several 'steps' and the threaded > center shaft where the old fan clutch used to go. FYI > > > > Thanks in advance, and does anyone carry bolt packs for engine bolts and > screws?? > > > > Eric G > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail. is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. > http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From ruth at earlydatsun.com Tue Mar 31 19:56:09 2009 From: ruth at earlydatsun.com (Ruth) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:56:09 +1000 Subject: [Roadsters] 68-70 R16 Water Pump Blues In-Reply-To: <49D2CCEB.6080300@hornesystemstx.com> References: <296147.93342.qm@web54111.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49D2CCEB.6080300@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: <1F71805B-75FA-4DDF-BF8B-69715A85BA78@earlydatsun.com> R16 water pumps are available new from Autobarn in Australia for a retail price of $80 AUD. With postage to the US(registered and insured) is around $150 AUD, which at todays exchange rate is around $105 USD. Don't know who's charging you $300, but that sounds a bit steep. These ones may (depending on supplier at the time) have a pressed steel impeller instead of a cast iron one. But other than that they are fine to use. If you (or anyone else) would like one, let me know and I can obtain and post one for you. Alan works at Autobarn (conveniently!) so he's there every day. Cheers guys, Ruth From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Mar 31 20:00:43 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:00:43 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 68-70 R16 Water Pump Blues References: <296147.93342.qm@web54111.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49D2CCEB.6080300@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: <9A10DEAA8C4548209EF5FCFAC73B2638@xp> I just plugged in the following part number from the Online Parts Catalog to ForkLiftPartsSupply.com and found: Nissan (Datsun) 21010-78226 PUMP - WATER $39.20 Now, there are 16 part numbers listed for 'WATER PUMP W/FAN CLUTCH & GASKET' (2 SAE, 14 Metric), so I'm not positive which one is correct, but the point is that it's a much cheaper alternative and it's still Nissan. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pat Horne Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 7:10 PM To: Eric Gillis Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 68-70 R16 Water Pump Blues Eric, Take your pump to a forklift shop and see if they can match the pump to one on a Nissan forklift with an H20 engine. I did that several years ago and got an exact match. As I recall it cost me under $50. [snip] From ljordan704 at netscape.net Tue Mar 31 20:07:33 2009 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:07:33 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 68-70 R16 Water Pump Blues In-Reply-To: <9A10DEAA8C4548209EF5FCFAC73B2638@xp> References: <296147.93342.qm@web54111.mail.re2.yahoo.com><49D2CCEB.6080300@hornesystemstx.com> <9A10DEAA8C4548209EF5FCFAC73B2638@xp> Message-ID: <8CB808E22C8A830-1618-1E52@webmail-mg10.sysops.aol.com> I think I read somewhere about the forklift warer pump, but that you might have to change something on it... I'd find a forklift supply place and bring yours in to get the right part. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 8:00 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 68-70 R16 Water Pump Blues I just plugged in the following part number from the Online Parts Catalog to ForkLiftPartsSupply.com and found: Nissan (Datsun) 21010-78226 PUMP - WATER $39.20 Now, there are 16 part numbers listed for 'WATER PUMP W/FAN CLUTCH & GASKET' (2 SAE, 14 Metric), so I'm not positive which one is correct, but the point is that it's a much cheaper alternative and it's still Nissan. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pat Horne Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 7:10 PM To: Eric Gillis Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 68-70 R16 Water Pump Blues Eric, Take your pump to a forklift shop and see if they can match the pump to one on a Nissan forklift with an H20 engine. I did that several years ago and got an exact match. As I recall it cost me under $50. [snip] You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From mkiisupra at hotmail.com Tue Mar 31 20:08:19 2009 From: mkiisupra at hotmail.com (Eric Gillis) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 03:08:19 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] 68-70 R16 Water Pump Blues In-Reply-To: References: <296147.93342.qm@web54111.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: My Roadster Friends- I wanted to thank you all so much for all the information for my problem in such a short time. I thought I had checked out all the angles to the water pump through the 311s.org postings, forklifts, rebuilds, local and custom, hub swaps, true pricing, etc. However, you folks blew me away with such information and more! I think I have the situation solved, I will get back with a final solution to add to the 311s.org post and hopefully on to Solvang with a Roadster! Thank you again, Eric G _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live SkyDrive: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_032009 From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Mar 31 21:03:12 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:03:12 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 68-70 R16 Water Pump Blues In-Reply-To: References: <296147.93342.qm@web54111.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <95389B5BAAE44A428E142BB5FD936793@xp> Don't forget....pics, or it didn't happen. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eric Gillis Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:08 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 68-70 R16 Water Pump Blues My Roadster Friends- I wanted to thank you all so much for all the information for my problem in such a short time. I thought I had checked out all the angles to the water pump through the 311s.org postings, forklifts, rebuilds, local and custom, hub swaps, true pricing, etc. However, you folks blew me away with such information and more! I think I have the situation solved, I will get back with a final solution to add to the 311s.org post and hopefully on to Solvang with a Roadster! Thank you again, Eric G From gmagana at yahoo.com Tue Mar 31 22:03:28 2009 From: gmagana at yahoo.com (Gerardo Magana) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] test Message-ID: <332182.17569.qm@web83008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> test Gerardo Magana 209-499-9193 www.fairladyparts.com From gmagana at yahoo.com Tue Mar 31 22:06:10 2009 From: gmagana at yahoo.com (Gerardo Magana) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts References: <739595838.1735331238527504688.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <507607.46636.qm@web83005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Pete, Look here: http://fairladyparts.com/boltpacks.html Thanks, Gerardo Magana 209-499-9193 www.fairladyparts.com ________________________________ Ah-ha! Problem was that I searched the Fairlady website, and the bolt packs aren't listed. Oh, Gerardo......... Pete From gmagana at yahoo.com Tue Mar 31 23:18:20 2009 From: gmagana at yahoo.com (Gerardo Magana) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts References: <739595838.1735331238527504688.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <507607.46636.qm@web83005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8E21DF574DDE40C39893EE74E12F1B83@xp> Message-ID: <269381.70199.qm@web83002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks for the input, I fixed it. Gerardo Magana 209-499-9193 www.fairladyparts.com To: Gerardo Magana Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:18:49 PM Subject: RE: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts Yes, but you wouldn't know they were available if you went straight to FairladyParts.com and clicked Parts Catalog. Pete ________________________________ From: Gerardo Magana [mailto:gmagana at yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:06 PM To: Pete Peters Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] front suspension and brake bolts Pete, Look here: http://fairladyparts.com/boltpacks.html Thanks, Gerardo Magana 209-499-9193 www.fairladyparts.com ________________________________ Ah-ha! Problem was that I searched the Fairlady website, and the bolt packs aren't listed. Oh, Gerardo......... Pete