From bmccarthy67 at hotmail.com Sun Feb 1 10:17:42 2009 From: bmccarthy67 at hotmail.com (John McCarthy) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 17:17:42 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Micro fuel pump Message-ID: Mike, I used the same fuel pump (Mr Gasket, #42S, rated 2 -3.5 PSI)...mine is in my test stand and is a little loud at first (or because it's always dry at start up?), but I'm sure once it's on a vehicle I'll never notice. Maybe you can see it in this link if the link works...it's on the bottom of the stand close to where the stock pump would be located. It's small and comes with its own inline pre filter. http://www.mydatsun.com/Solex%20on%20stand.wmv v/r Buddy _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_howitworks_01200 9 From PDFenter at aol.com Sun Feb 1 14:43:29 2009 From: PDFenter at aol.com (PDFenter at aol.com) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 16:43:29 EST Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 interior shots Message-ID: Hey all, I am trying to sort out the interior on my 67.5. I am looking for pictures of the interior. Door panels with the door open. Instrument panel, and the behind the seat area. I could also use detail of any of the area painted grey on the interior of the car and what color to use. thanks in advance and I have given alvins collection a pretty good look through. Phil **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://www.dell.com/co ntent/products/features.aspx/laptops_great_deals?c=us%26cs=19%26l=en%26s=d hs%26~ck=anavml) From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Sun Feb 1 14:43:34 2009 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (Peter Harrison) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:43:34 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Eliza No Va Message-ID: Somewhat further on in diagnosis. Tested the coil in another car (Linda's) and it works. However when installed back on Eliza, there is NO spark from the coil. Any thoughts?? Thx Peter From pat at hornesystemstx.com Sun Feb 1 15:01:53 2009 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 16:01:53 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Eliza No Va In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49861BD1.30803@hornesystemstx.com> Check to see that there is voltage on the + terminal of the coil. There should be a wire from that terminal to one connection on the ignition ballast resistor. The other ballast connection should have battery voltage on it. If you don't have battery voltage, then you probably have a defective ignition switch, or wire from the switch to the ballast. Depending on whether the points are closed or not, the voltage on the + coil terminal and ballast terminal will either be battery voltage, or about 8V. If you have battery voltage on the coil + terminal, rock the engine over until the points will be closed (one of the compression strokes) and verify that the voltage on the - coil terminal is close to zero. At this time the + coil terminal should be around 8V. If you have 12V on the coil - all the time, then the points, wire inside the distributor, or coil to distributor is bad or loose. Oh, it could also be the condenser across the points too, if it is shorted (not likely). I suspect that there is something wrong with one of these voltages. Get back with me if you need more assistance. Remind me what year your car is please. There is slightly different wiring around the coil on the '70 cars. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Peter Harrison, On 2/1/2009 3:43 PM: > Somewhat further on in diagnosis. > > Tested the coil in another car (Linda's) and it works. However when installed > back on Eliza, there is NO spark from the coil. > > Any thoughts?? > > Thx > > Peter > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- --- Pat Horne 512.797.7501 Owner, Horne Systems pat at hornesystemstx.com 5026 FM 2001 Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 --We support Habitat for Humanity, a hand UP, not a hand OUT-- From fairlady66 at gmail.com Sun Feb 1 15:16:37 2009 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 14:16:37 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] TV commercials Message-ID: Last night I was watching Past Super Bowl commercials which got me remembering a lot of other old product commercials. This morning when I went to try logging onto the 311 Forum again I was still not able to... Then the old MTV commercial from the '80's hit me "I Want My MTV!" so I would like to say, "I Want My 311 Forum!". Withdrawals suck.... -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. From slowboy at cox.net Sun Feb 1 15:25:45 2009 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:25:45 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] TV commercials In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As of two hours ago he was alive and working on it. -----Original Message----- "I Want My 311 Forum!". Withdrawals suck.... From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Sun Feb 1 17:25:05 2009 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (Peter Harrison) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 16:25:05 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Eliza No Va Message-ID: Decided that somehow I fried the Pertronix - so buy a new one and off to the races. There does seem to be a potential issue re ballast resistors - or lack of same in my case, so I will check w/Dean and the Pertronix people and get it sorted. Thanks to all who offered advice and solutions - I am now less of an electrical klutz. Cheers Peter From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sun Feb 1 18:50:33 2009 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:50:33 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] What did you do this weekend? 2/1/09 Message-ID: <8CB52EFC55E306B-910-3855@webmail-de04.sysops.aol.com> Hello all, I had a nice day of Datsun therapy. I went over to Peter's house and we took off the old oil pan on my car, rather easily, using? a soft chisel in a couple spots and a few rubber mallet whacks. I checked the oil and there were no metal bits. Then the new cork gasket with #2 Permatex non hardening sealer on the gasket installed on the shiny newly refurbished pan I had, then adding more on the mating surface of the car. Tightened it all up carefully from the center and going round multiple times to just finally snug everything up. New oil and filter and... no leaks. Yeah! The old gasket was crumbly trashed, no wonder it leaked. With idling and driving I see that the pressure is up slightly and at idle the oil pressure does not go to zero but is slightly above. Conclusion is that eliminating leaks is a good thing. (Duh) My thanks to Peter for his direction and assistance, jack stands, jack and correct tools. On Peter's car it looks like the Petronix is dead as we determined his new coil was working afterall. Looks like he can get a new Petronix part so all is not lost, and his car should run soon. Yeah! What did you do this weekend? Linda 68 1600 From mltyler at mac.com Sun Feb 1 21:25:17 2009 From: mltyler at mac.com (Marc Tyler) Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 22:25:17 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] What did you do this weekend? 2/1/09 In-Reply-To: <8CB52EFC55E306B-910-3855@webmail-de04.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CB52EFC55E306B-910-3855@webmail-de04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <89F8F51D-8720-4683-9D55-A484E1FFB9C8@mac.com> At long last the motor went back into the 1600 today. All that's left is everything else :^) On Feb 1, 2009, at 7:50 PM, ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: > Hello all, > > I had a nice day of Datsun therapy. I went over to Peter's house and > we took off the old oil pan on my car, rather easily, using? a soft > chisel in a couple spots and a few rubber mallet whacks. I checked > the oil and there were no metal bits. Then the new cork gasket with > #2 Permatex non hardening sealer on the gasket installed on the > shiny newly refurbished pan I had, then adding more on the mating > surface of the car. Tightened it all up carefully from the center > and going round multiple times to just finally snug everything up. > New oil and filter and... no leaks. Yeah! The old gasket was crumbly > trashed, no wonder it leaked. With idling and driving I see that the > pressure is up slightly and at idle the oil pressure does not go to > zero but is slightly above. Conclusion is that eliminating leaks is > a good thing. (Duh) > My thanks to Peter for his direction and assistance, jack stands, > jack and correct tools. > On Peter's car it looks like the Petronix is dead as we determined > his new coil was working afterall. > Looks like he can get a new Petronix part so all is not lost, and > his car should run soon. Yeah! > What did you do this weekend? > > Linda > 68 1600 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mltyler at mac.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Marc Tyler mltyler at mac.com From Keith0alan at aol.com Mon Feb 2 07:40:59 2009 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:40:59 EST Subject: [Roadsters] What did you do this weekend? 2/1/09 Message-ID: Finally got back to bead blasting carb parts. It has been a couple of months since I've been up to it and I'm finally starting to feel a bit better. keith In a message dated 2/1/2009 8:26:28 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, mltyler at mac.com writes: At long last the motor went back into the 1600 today. All that's left is everything else :^) On Feb 1, 2009, at 7:50 PM, ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: > Hello all, > > I had a nice day of Datsun therapy. I went over to Peter's house and > we took off the old oil pan on my car, rather easily, using? a soft > chisel in a couple spots and a few rubber mallet whacks. I checked > the oil and there were no metal bits. Then the new cork gasket with > #2 Permatex non hardening sealer on the gasket installed on the > shiny newly refurbished pan I had, then adding more on the mating > surface of the car. Tightened it all up carefully from the center > and going round multiple times to just finally snug everything up. > New oil and filter and... no leaks. Yeah! The old gasket was crumbly > trashed, no wonder it leaked. With idling and driving I see that the > pressure is up slightly and at idle the oil pressure does not go to > zero but is slightly above. Conclusion is that eliminating leaks is > a good thing. (Duh) > My thanks to Peter for his direction and assistance, jack stands, > jack and correct tools. > On Peter's car it looks like the Petronix is dead as we determined > his new coil was working afterall. > Looks like he can get a new Petronix part so all is not lost, and > his car should run soon. Yeah! > What did you do this weekend? > > Linda > 68 1600 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mltyler at mac.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Marc Tyler mltyler at mac.com You are subscribed as keith0alan at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://www.dell.com/co ntent/products/features.aspx/laptops_great_deals?c=us%26cs=19%26l=en%26s=d hs%26~ck=anavml) From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Feb 2 08:56:36 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:56:36 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Eliza No Va Message-ID: <020220091556.4063.498717B40009BA9700000FDF2200750744CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Lucas coil recognizes fellow countryman and acts accordingly? Pete "Happy Monday!" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Peter Harrison" > Somewhat further on in diagnosis. > > Tested the coil in another car (Linda's) and it works. However when installed > back on Eliza, there is NO spark from the coil. > > Any thoughts?? > > Thx > > Peter From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Feb 2 08:59:43 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:59:43 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Eliza No Va Message-ID: <020220091559.13571.4987186F000AB303000035032200737478CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> But it works if he switches coils..... Perhaps Linda and Peter's starting/ignition systems are wired slightly differently. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Pat Horne > Check to see that there is voltage on the + terminal of the coil. There > should be a wire from that terminal to one connection on the ignition > ballast resistor. The other ballast connection should have battery > voltage on it. If you don't have battery voltage, then you probably have > a defective ignition switch, or wire from the switch to the ballast. > > Depending on whether the points are closed or not, the voltage on the + > coil terminal and ballast terminal will either be battery voltage, or > about 8V. > > If you have battery voltage on the coil + terminal, rock the engine over > until the points will be closed (one of the compression strokes) and > verify that the voltage on the - coil terminal is close to zero. At this > time the + coil terminal should be around 8V. If you have 12V on the > coil - all the time, then the points, wire inside the distributor, or > coil to distributor is bad or loose. > > Oh, it could also be the condenser across the points too, if it is > shorted (not likely). > > I suspect that there is something wrong with one of these voltages. > > Get back with me if you need more assistance. > > Remind me what year your car is please. There is slightly different > wiring around the coil on the '70 cars. > > Peace, > Pat > > > Thusly spake Peter Harrison, On 2/1/2009 3:43 PM: > > Somewhat further on in diagnosis. > > > > Tested the coil in another car (Linda's) and it works. However when installed > > back on Eliza, there is NO spark from the coil. > > > > Any thoughts?? > > > > Thx > > > > Peter > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as pat at hornesystemstx.com > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > > > > > > -- > --- > Pat Horne 512.797.7501 > Owner, Horne Systems pat at hornesystemstx.com > 5026 FM 2001 Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 > --We support Habitat for Humanity, a hand UP, not a hand OUT-- > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Feb 2 09:08:44 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 16:08:44 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] What did you do this weekend? 2/1/09 Message-ID: <020220091608.15486.49871A8C00043DF300003C7E2205889116CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Finished installing living room subfloor. That earned me a few hours in the garage wiring, prepping for insulation, moving/tossing stuff to make it more functional for actually working on cars. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: ljordan704 at netscape.net On Peter's car it looks like the Petronix is dead as we determined his new coil was working afterall. Looks like he can get a new Petronix part so all is not lost, and his car should run soon. Yeah! What did you do this weekend? Linda 68 1600 From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Feb 2 09:32:42 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 16:32:42 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] 311s Forums down (was "Re: TV commercials") Message-ID: <020220091632.2327.4987202A000C09AC000009172200750330CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Been down since late Thursday/early Friday...... Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "SlowBoy" > As of two hours ago he was alive and working on it. > > -----Original Message----- > "I Want My 311 Forum!". Withdrawals suck.... From ronnie.day at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 10:31:40 2009 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:31:40 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] What did you do this weekend? 2/1/09 In-Reply-To: <020220091608.15486.49871A8C00043DF300003C7E2205889116CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> References: <020220091608.15486.49871A8C00043DF300003C7E2205889116CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <2faaebf80902020931m199a08efs6508eddac042da06@mail.gmail.com> Went to local lumber yard to get an extra 4 x 8 sheet of 3/4 tongue & groove OSB, after discovering last weekend that T&G OSB only covers 47 1/2 inches leaving us about 3 inches short after 6 courses on the cabin sub-flooring. Needless to say Elayne and I were both a bit ticked at discovering that not so minor factoid! Spent a little time Saturday looking at the wiring on the 2000. Graeme sent me a very nice color wiring diagram that I'll take by Staples this afternoon to get several printed 11 x 17 (I hope) and laminated. Much easier to follow than the B&W version, but it's great to have both. Talked to Marc about kick panels and inside trim below the door openings. Will order top, carpet and weather stripping in a few minutes. Sunday morning I realized that we'd forgotten that we needed another six 8 ft 2 x 6 in addition to the OSB so we ended up burning around two hours driving 75 miles (round trip) to the Home Depot in Temple because the local lumber yard is closed on Sunday! So we're still not quite finished with the deck! I've got to remember to write needed things down, both on the car and the place. It's way too easy to forget things when you don't work on thing for several day or a week. Fortunately the forecast for next weekend is excellent (highs in low 70s) so we should get the decking done and get a start on the back wall. Lord knows when I'll be able to get over to Tom Walter's and take him up on his offer of helping me work on the wiring. I need to retire so I can get my projects done! On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Pete Peters wrote: > Finished installing living room sub-floor. That earned me a few hours in > the garage wiring, prepping for insulation, moving/tossing stuff to make it > more functional for actually working on cars. > > Pete > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: ljordan704 at netscape.net > > On Peter's car it looks like the Pertronix is dead as we determined his new > coil was working after all. Looks like he can get a new Pertronix part so > all is not lost, and his car should run soon. Yeah! > > What did you do this weekend? > > Linda > 68 1600 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ronnie.day at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From jeremymayne at msn.com Mon Feb 2 12:09:56 2009 From: jeremymayne at msn.com (jeremy mayne) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:09:56 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] What did you do this weekend? 2/1/09 In-Reply-To: <89F8F51D-8720-4683-9D55-A484E1FFB9C8@mac.com> References: <8CB52EFC55E306B-910-3855@webmail-de04.sysops.aol.com> <89F8F51D-8720-4683-9D55-A484E1FFB9C8@mac.com> Message-ID: I took the 1600 with the new stroker motor out for its first extended drive on Sunday. The motor feels strong though a bit tight still, but is running well. The Weber carbs still need some tuning since they bog down in the transition to full throttle. But with the New Mexico sun shining brightly, I had a great time following my brother in his TR6 on the smooth, twisty roads in the Manzano mountains. The improvement in torque is the most noticeable thing right now, and it's great how it just pulls the car through a turn. Even at 2300 rpm in fourth, it surges ahead when you want it to. Now I just have to fix 400 other little details and the car will be perfect! Jeremy Mayne 70datsun > From: mltyler at mac.com> To: ljordan704 at netscape.net> Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:25:17 -0600> CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What did you do this weekend? 2/1/09> > At long last the motor went back into the 1600 today. All that's left > is everything else :^)> On Feb 1, 2009, at 7:50 PM, ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: From fj20spl311 at yahoo.com Mon Feb 2 12:15:22 2009 From: fj20spl311 at yahoo.com (philip erickson) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:15:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] What did you do? Message-ID: <562773.63164.qm@web32008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I edited the MS Visio EZ mini 20 fuse box wiring diagram I got from Michael Spreadbury. This required me to remove my partially installed EZ mini wiring (I want to change the mounting location of the fuse box anyway). A fuse box wiring diagram will make the planning stage of installing the EZ Mini 20 wiring much easier as it is not supplied with the kit. The plan is to make diagrams of my installation on SRL311-10450 to publish on the forum. I discovered that there is already a section for publishing CUSTOM WIRING SCHEMATIC in the Tech Section named Color Wiring Diagramsyou need to use the search feature to locate it. Hear is the link to SPL311-02305 using a Painless 14 Circuit micro block harness and Headlight relay harness. http://www.311s.org/PDFs/1966DatsunRoadsterCustomWiringSchematic.pdf Phil From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Feb 2 12:26:12 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:26:12 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] What did you do this weekend? 2/1/09 Message-ID: <020220091926.8524.498748D4000CDC610000214C2200751090CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> After we finished the subfloor, my wife says "that leaves only four items.......finish the upstairs, finish the downstairs, build the new garage, and landscaping." My reply? "You sure know how to demotivate a person, don't ya?" Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: jeremy mayne [snip] Now I just have to fix 400 other little details and the car will be perfect! From jeremiahdbush at yahoo.com Mon Feb 2 12:50:06 2009 From: jeremiahdbush at yahoo.com (j bush) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:50:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] What did you do this weekend? 2/1/09 In-Reply-To: <020220091926.8524.498748D4000CDC610000214C2200751090CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <21983.10920.qm@web110802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I went over to my parents house to see them and my mom backed into my new car - 2006 Infiniti G35x - that I got two weeks ago. Oh, yeah, and that was on my birthday. From andycost at embarqmail.com Mon Feb 2 14:42:22 2009 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Embarq Customer) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:42:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] What did you do this weekend? 2/1/09 In-Reply-To: <611581285.1933621233610168488.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com> Message-ID: <931371478.1937711233610942726.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com> I got the motor ready to pull on the race car. I just have a couple of oil cooler lines left but wanted to drain the oil before pulling those lines. I hope I can get the motor out. I have placed the motor so far back that it is inside the transmission tunnel and under the cowl. In fact, I had cut the firewall and floorpan and welded in a box to cover the motor. I first bolted the motor to the frame and then dropped the body over it. I removed all the body mounting clips and was able to drop the body down 1/2 inch or so. Anyway, I don't know If I will be able to get the motor and tranny out without lifting the body off. The shifter mechanism already sticks up out of the hole in the tunnel. It will be a challenge. I fixed the clutch on my 96 200sx SER, adjusted the door strike for less wind noise on the 200sx, fixed a power steering leak on my Dodge truck, fixed a pressure leak on the charcoal canister on the Dodge Truck, and put air in all the tires. I also bought a new set of racing tires (23.5 x 11 x 15 R25A Hoosier 15" wide slicks). In the future I will probably build a full tube frame for the Roadster instead of the rear half tube frame that I have now. I will skin the car instead of using the current stock tub, cowling, and doors. The motor will move into the passenger floorboard back to the point where the back of the head is at the mid-point between the front and rear wheels. I am also replacing the stock front suspension with parts from Legend cars. I just can't get the car low enough with the current body on frame construction and it is still 250 pounds overweight. I think I may change the color scheme while I have it apart this time. I like the Orange but I am getting a little tired of it. I'm thinking about a Texas Flag with the star on the trunk. I'm open to other ideas except the rising sun which I find offensive. Andy From slowboy at cox.net Mon Feb 2 15:16:51 2009 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:16:51 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] What did you do? In-Reply-To: <562773.63164.qm@web32008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <562773.63164.qm@web32008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4959D6210ADC4D4B931577BA0AC1F848@m7170n> No need to search, it's on the Electrical page under Schematics: Wiring Diagrams (Custom Made) -----Original Message----- I discovered that there is already a section for publishing CUSTOM WIRING SCHEMATIC in the Tech Section named Color Wiring Diagramsyou need to use the search feature to locate it. Hear is the link to SPL311-02305 using a Painless 14 Circuit micro block harness and Headlight relay harness. http://www.311s.org/PDFs/1966DatsunRoadsterCustomWiringSchematic.pdf From eddietude at socal.rr.com Mon Feb 2 15:20:32 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 14:20:32 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] What did you do this weekend? 2/1/09 In-Reply-To: <931371478.1937711233610942726.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com> References: <931371478.1937711233610942726.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com> Message-ID: <498771B0.9000200@socal.rr.com> "I'm open to other ideas except the rising sun which I find offensive." And why is the rising sun offensive? Just curious.... Embarq Customer wrote: > I got the motor ready to pull on the race car. I just have a couple of oil cooler lines left but wanted to drain the oil before pulling those lines. I hope I can get the motor out. I have placed the motor so far back that it is inside the transmission tunnel and under the cowl. In fact, I had cut the firewall and floorpan and welded in a box to cover the motor. I first bolted the motor to the frame and then dropped the body over it. I removed all the body mounting clips and was able to drop the body down 1/2 inch or so. Anyway, I don't know If I will be able to get the motor and tranny out without lifting the body off. The shifter mechanism already sticks up out of the hole in the tunnel. It will be a challenge. > > I fixed the clutch on my 96 200sx SER, adjusted the door strike for less wind noise on the 200sx, fixed a power steering leak on my Dodge truck, fixed a pressure leak on the charcoal canister on the Dodge Truck, and put air in all the tires. I also bought a new set of racing tires (23.5 x 11 x 15 R25A Hoosier 15" wide slicks). > > In the future I will probably build a full tube frame for the Roadster instead of the rear half tube frame that I have now. I will skin the car instead of using the current stock tub, cowling, and doors. The motor will move into the passenger floorboard back to the point where the back of the head is at the mid-point between the front and rear wheels. I am also replacing the stock front suspension with parts from Legend cars. I just can't get the car low enough with the current body on frame construction and it is still 250 pounds overweight. I think I may change the color scheme while I have it apart this time. I like the Orange but I am getting a little tired of it. I'm thinking about a Texas Flag with the star on the trunk. I'm open to other ideas except the rising sun which I find offensive. > > Andy > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From drlsmith at dccnet.com Mon Feb 2 21:10:35 2009 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 20:10:35 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] What did you do? References: <562773.63164.qm@web32008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0FE3F65FC9EF4011B7493FECABCA2D79@Daryl> This is something I will need to do soon too. What program do I need to draw out those wiring diagrams?? Is it reasonably easy to do, for someone who is not all that computer savvy? Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "philip erickson" >I edited the MS Visio EZ mini 20 fuse box wiring diagram I got from Michael > Spreadbury. This required me to remove my partially installed EZ mini > wiring > (I want to change the mounting location of the fuse box anyway). A fuse > box > wiring diagram will make the planning stage of installing the EZ Mini 20 > wiring much easier as it is not supplied with the kit. The plan is to > make > diagrams of my installation on SRL311-10450 to publish on the forum. I > discovered that there is already a section for publishing CUSTOM WIRING > SCHEMATIC in the Tech Section named Color Wiring Diagramsyou need to > use > the search feature to locate it. Hear is the link to SPL311-02305 using a > Painless 14 Circuit micro block harness and Headlight relay > harness. > http://www.311s.org/PDFs/1966DatsunRoadsterCustomWiringSchematic.pdf > Phil > ________________________________________ From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Feb 2 23:08:28 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 22:08:28 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] What did you do? In-Reply-To: <0FE3F65FC9EF4011B7493FECABCA2D79@Daryl> References: <562773.63164.qm@web32008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <0FE3F65FC9EF4011B7493FECABCA2D79@Daryl> Message-ID: I've never heard of any graphics program being easy (forget the marketing hype), so I'd say "no." Since Jim (aka Slowboy) has the process down, I suggest you ask him.....real nice. Gee, Jim, ain't I a nice guy volunteering your services? Pete "just trying to help" -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daryl Smith Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:11 PM To: fj20spl311 at yahoo.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What did you do? This is something I will need to do soon too. What program do I need to draw out those wiring diagrams?? Is it reasonably easy to do, for someone who is not all that computer savvy? Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "philip erickson" [snip] >I edited the MS Visio EZ mini 20 fuse box wiring diagram I got from Michael > Spreadbury. This required me to remove my partially installed EZ mini > wiring From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Feb 2 23:17:56 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 22:17:56 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions (was "RE: What did you do this weekend? 2/1/09") In-Reply-To: <498771B0.9000200@socal.rr.com> References: <931371478.1937711233610942726.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com> <498771B0.9000200@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Huge hurking thread or two discussing that on Ratsun.net, which has quite a few members' cars with Rising Sun hoods. The short story is that many people (mostly baby boomers and older) equate the Rising Sun flag with World War II, the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, etc, etc, and feel it's anti-American. The younger folks just think it's proudly advertising their Japanese cars, especially since classic American iron has gotten ridiculously expensive. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eddie Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:21 PM Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What did you do this weekend? 2/1/09 "I'm open to other ideas except the rising sun which I find offensive." And why is the rising sun offensive? Just curious.... -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Embarq Customer Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:42 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What did you do this weekend? 2/1/09 [snip] I think I may change the color scheme while I have it apart this time. I like the Orange but I am getting a little tired of it. I'm thinking about a Texas Flag with the star on the trunk. I'm open to other ideas except the rising sun which I find offensive. Andy From slowboy at cox.net Mon Feb 2 23:43:56 2009 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 23:43:56 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] What did you do? In-Reply-To: References: <562773.63164.qm@web32008.mail.mud.yahoo.com><0FE3F65FC9EF4011B7493FECABCA2D79@Daryl> Message-ID: Such a Sport Pete! :o) hehehehehe Jim -----Original Message----- From: Pete Peters Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What did you do? I've never heard of any graphics program being easy (forget the marketing hype), so I'd say "no." Since Jim (aka Slowboy) has the process down, I suggest you ask him.....real nice. Gee, Jim, ain't I a nice guy volunteering your services? Pete "just trying to help" -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daryl Smith Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:11 PM To: fj20spl311 at yahoo.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What did you do? This is something I will need to do soon too. What program do I need to draw out those wiring diagrams?? Is it reasonably easy to do, for someone who is not all that computer savvy? Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "philip erickson" [snip] >I edited the MS Visio EZ mini 20 fuse box wiring diagram I got from Michael > Spreadbury. This required me to remove my partially installed EZ mini > wiring From tom at datsun2000.com Tue Feb 3 02:00:42 2009 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 01:00:42 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions (was "RE: What did you do this weekend? 2/1/09") In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Interesting timing on the rising sun remarks. Just a couple of nights ago my father opened up about some of what he saw in WWII. He told me about looking a Japanese pilot in the face as he dropped a torpedo aimed at the LST my father was on. The torpedo went underneath the LST and came up to hit the boat on the other side of his LST. My father still won't buy a Japanese car. And I have two of them. As to what I did over the weekend. I was removing the interior of my SC400 and building a custom insulated mount to install two new audio amps in the trunk where the original amp and 12 disk changer once lived. I also added a new radio in the dash. New speakers and heavy power wiring for the amps will be going in next weekend. I also started reassembling the dizzy on Mr. Hyde to start reviving him for the spring/summer driving season and get him ready to head for Shasta without any problems this year. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:18 PM To: 'Datsun Roadster List' Subject: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions (was "RE: What did you do this weekend? 2/1/09") Huge hurking thread or two discussing that on Ratsun.net, which has quite a few members' cars with Rising Sun hoods. The short story is that many people (mostly baby boomers and older) equate the Rising Sun flag with World War II, the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, etc, etc, and feel it's anti-American. The younger folks just think it's proudly advertising their Japanese cars, especially since classic American iron has gotten ridiculously expensive. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eddie Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:21 PM Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What did you do this weekend? 2/1/09 "I'm open to other ideas except the rising sun which I find offensive." And why is the rising sun offensive? Just curious.... -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Embarq Customer Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:42 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What did you do this weekend? 2/1/09 [snip] I think I may change the color scheme while I have it apart this time. I like the Orange but I am getting a little tired of it. I'm thinking about a Texas Flag with the star on the trunk. I'm open to other ideas except the rising sun which I find offensive. Andy You are subscribed as tom at datsun2000.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From drlsmith at dccnet.com Tue Feb 3 02:57:47 2009 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 01:57:47 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Overunity Motor? Message-ID: <4EDD142303C54777BC95C8170911BAD4@Daryl> Perpetual Motion Machine??!!? Sounds like science fiction......... http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=qaCk0jK--8s&feature=related http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=LNBMVsuPdm4&feature=related http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=vDeXTXYFKAY&feature=related From RWM at RWMann.com Tue Feb 3 05:23:37 2009 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM (Out of the Office)) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 07:23:37 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Overunity Motor? In-Reply-To: <4EDD142303C54777BC95C8170911BAD4@Daryl> References: <4EDD142303C54777BC95C8170911BAD4@Daryl> Message-ID: <49883749.1090300@RWMann.com> OK, but can I get my snake oil with Solexes? Daryl Smith wrote: > Perpetual Motion Machine??!!? > > Sounds like science fiction......... > > > http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=qaCk0jK--8s&feature=related > > http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=LNBMVsuPdm4&feature=related > > http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=vDeXTXYFKAY&feature=related From sumton at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 3 07:08:08 2009 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:08:08 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] What did you do? References: <562773.63164.qm@web32008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <0FE3F65FC9EF4011B7493FECABCA2D79@Daryl> Message-ID: <002001c98608$ff094df0$8115a8c0@ranteer.local> i'm using visio. its not as fancy, though. i looked around for software like that and couldn't find any that was reasonably priced. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Smith" To: ; Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What did you do? > This is something I will need to do soon too. > What program do I need to draw out those wiring diagrams?? > Is it reasonably easy to do, for someone who is not all that computer > savvy? > > Daryl From slowboy at cox.net Tue Feb 3 07:20:43 2009 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:20:43 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] What did you do? In-Reply-To: <002001c98608$ff094df0$8115a8c0@ranteer.local> References: <562773.63164.qm@web32008.mail.mud.yahoo.com><0FE3F65FC9EF4011B7493FECABCA2D79@Daryl> <002001c98608$ff094df0$8115a8c0@ranteer.local> Message-ID: We are using Visio. I am using Visio Pro 2003. NOT the student version. Got it for about $150.00 using a student ID but you can find it on the web where no ID required. I've been looking at 2007 version this morning. Jim -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oliver Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 7:08 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What did you do? i'm using visio. its not as fancy, though. i looked around for software like that and couldn't find any that was reasonably priced. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Smith" To: ; Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What did you do? > This is something I will need to do soon too. > What program do I need to draw out those wiring diagrams?? > Is it reasonably easy to do, for someone who is not all that computer > savvy? > > Daryl ________________________________________ From stebharvey at ameritech.net Tue Feb 3 07:47:14 2009 From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:47:14 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] What did you do? In-Reply-To: <002001c98608$ff094df0$8115a8c0@ranteer.local> References: <562773.63164.qm@web32008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <0FE3F65FC9EF4011B7493FECABCA2D79@Daryl> <002001c98608$ff094df0$8115a8c0@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <000001c9860e$4e330380$ea990a80$@net> I use Illustrator to create electrical and fluid/gas schematics. Layering is the way to go. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oliver Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 8:08 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What did you do? i'm using visio. its not as fancy, though. i looked around for software like that and couldn't find any that was reasonably priced. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Smith" To: ; Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What did you do? > This is something I will need to do soon too. > What program do I need to draw out those wiring diagrams?? > Is it reasonably easy to do, for someone who is not all that computer > savvy? > > Daryl You are subscribed as stebharvey at ameritech.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Tue Feb 3 09:34:32 2009 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:34:32 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] '70 2L FS in LA, unusual rollbar pic Message-ID: This one has been for sale in the area for a while, but has some new pics added. Never seen this approach to the "rollbar vs rear view mirror restricted vision" topic. Me thinks that without a center brace it'd fold like a pretzel. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/1018515438.html From barterdude at comcast.net Tue Feb 3 10:08:31 2009 From: barterdude at comcast.net (barterdude) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:08:31 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Lower Ball Joint Message-ID: <8E669821737249DEBED6F1780CA79476@XPLaptop> After replacing the upper ball joint, it was discovered the lower needs replacing too. Anyone have good used driver's side lower ball joint? Gary Lasater founding member www.wycroc.org '63 SPL310-300161C '63 SPL310-300289B '64 SPL310-001289 '69 SRL311-12536 '70 SPL311-28169 From turbored at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 10:14:03 2009 From: turbored at gmail.com (turbored at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:14:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions (was "RE: What did you do this weekend? 2/1/09") Message-ID: <49887b5b.08b38c0a.33c0.0d4f@mx.google.com> As a japanese american, I totally agree that the rising sun is (unfortuantely) associated with Imperial Japan. In fact, it was (and is) the naval flag. I wouldn't want my car vandalized b/c of this, especially because koreans and chinese anger towards japan is still very real even in the usa. --- Original Message --- From:"Pete Peters" Sent:Mon 2/2/09 10:14 pm To:"Datsun Roadster List" Subj:[Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions (was "RE: What did you do this weekend? 2/1/09") Huge hurking thread or two discussing that on Ratsun.net, which has quite a few members' cars with Rising Sun hoods. The short story is that many people (mostly baby boomers and older) equate the Rising Sun flag with World War II, the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, etc, etc, and feel it's anti-American. The younger folks just think it's proudly advertising their Japanese cars, especially since classic American iron has gotten ridiculously expensive. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eddie Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:21 PM Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What did you do this weekend? 2/1/09 "I'm open to other ideas except the rising sun which I find offensive." And why is the rising sun offensive? Just curious.... -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Embarq Customer Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:42 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What did you do this weekend? 2/1/09 [snip] I think I may change the color scheme while I have it apart this time. I like the Orange but I am getting a little tired of it. I'm thinking about a Texas Flag with the star on the trunk. I'm open to other ideas except the rising sun which I find offensive. Andy You are subscribed as turbored at gmail.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 3 10:29:14 2009 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:29:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] '70 2L FS in LA, unusual rollbar pic In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <291164.62581.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> That looks like sagging trim around the rear window of the hardtop. A rollbar that size and shape would bring new meaning to the word "optimist"! Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Tue, 2/3/09, O'Farrell, Fergus wrote: From: O'Farrell, Fergus Subject: [Roadsters] '70 2L FS in LA, unusual rollbar pic To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 8:34 AM This one has been for sale in the area for a while, but has some new pics added. Never seen this approach to the "rollbar vs rear view mirror restricted vision" topic. Me thinks that without a center brace it'd fold like a pretzel. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/1018515438.html You are subscribed as gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From escanlon at wa-net.com Tue Feb 3 11:49:36 2009 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:49:36 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions References: Message-ID: <5F70DF34A8E94605AA8DDD7F01C9E422@HPW> While the design of the Rising Sun may appeal to some, it harbors some of the same sentiment as the Swastika to others. Heck, even the "Iron Cross" or Maltese Cross wheels on the Z's in later years caused some to remove them just because of the association with WWI Germany. Apologies to anyone that may take offense to this, as that is not my intent. E From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 3 12:01:48 2009 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:01:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions In-Reply-To: <5F70DF34A8E94605AA8DDD7F01C9E422@HPW> Message-ID: <213026.41611.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My dad spent 2-1/2 years or so in North Africa and Italy with the 1st Armored Division (Old Ironsides), being shot at by the Wehrmacht and the Luftwaffe, and when I was in high school (closer to the end of WWII than we are now to the end of the Vietnam War...) he made me get rid of my "surfer's cross" - a St Christopher medal set in a Maltese cross. He mellowed, though - the last vehicle he bought before he died was a VW Camper Van; and you could have knocked me over with a feather. Hard to understand, maybe, for those of us who didn't live through it - but having grown up with someone who did, I respect their feelings on the matter. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Tue, 2/3/09, E Scanlon wrote: From: E Scanlon Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions To: "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 10:49 AM While the design of the Rising Sun may appeal to some, it harbors some of the same sentiment as the Swastika to others. Heck, even the "Iron Cross" or Maltese Cross wheels on the Z's in later years caused some to remove them just because of the association with WWI Germany. Apologies to anyone that may take offense to this, as that is not my intent. E ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From stebharvey at ameritech.net Tue Feb 3 14:08:41 2009 From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:08:41 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions In-Reply-To: <213026.41611.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <5F70DF34A8E94605AA8DDD7F01C9E422@HPW> <213026.41611.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001c98643$9820ff80$c862fe80$@net> My father was on Tinian along with Enola Gay and Bock's Car and always drove Fords after the war. I took him for a roadster ride before he passed away and he was very impressed. In fact, he said he was impressed with the Japanese zero early on in the war. Not so impressed with the divine wind however. Steve Harvey Milwaukee ------- My dad spent 2-1/2 years or so in North Africa and Italy with the 1st Armored Division (Old Ironsides), being shot at by the Wehrmacht and the Luftwaffe, and when I was in high school (closer to the end of WWII than we are now to the end of the Vietnam War...) he made me get rid of my "surfer's cross" - a St Christopher medal set in a Maltese cross. He mellowed, though - the last vehicle he bought before he died was a VW Camper Van; and you could have knocked me over with a feather. Hard to understand, maybe, for those of us who didn't live through it - but having grown up with someone who did, I respect their feelings on the matter. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Tue, 2/3/09, E Scanlon wrote: From: E Scanlon Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions To: "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 10:49 AM While the design of the Rising Sun may appeal to some, it harbors some of the same sentiment as the Swastika to others. Heck, even the "Iron Cross" or Maltese Cross wheels on the Z's in later years caused some to remove them just because of the association with WWI Germany. Apologies to anyone that may take offense to this, as that is not my intent. E ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as stebharvey at ameritech.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gsglasgow at comcast.net Tue Feb 3 15:43:24 2009 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:43:24 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions In-Reply-To: <000001c98643$9820ff80$c862fe80$@net> References: <5F70DF34A8E94605AA8DDD7F01C9E422@HPW> <213026.41611.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000001c98643$9820ff80$c862fe80$@net> Message-ID: <001401c98650$d3417d80$79c47880$@net> Yeah, the Zero was a pretty high-performance plane, partly due to having minimal armor, if I understand correctly. Built by Mitsubishi, BTW. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Harvey Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 1:09 PM To: 'Gary McCormick'; 'Datsun Roadster List'; 'E Scanlon' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions My father was on Tinian along with Enola Gay and Bock's Car and always drove Fords after the war. I took him for a roadster ride before he passed away and he was very impressed. In fact, he said he was impressed with the Japanese zero early on in the war. Not so impressed with the divine wind however. Steve Harvey Milwaukee ------- My dad spent 2-1/2 years or so in North Africa and Italy with the 1st Armored Division (Old Ironsides), being shot at by the Wehrmacht and the Luftwaffe, and when I was in high school (closer to the end of WWII than we are now to the end of the Vietnam War...) he made me get rid of my "surfer's cross" - a St Christopher medal set in a Maltese cross. He mellowed, though - the last vehicle he bought before he died was a VW Camper Van; and you could have knocked me over with a feather. Hard to understand, maybe, for those of us who didn't live through it - but having grown up with someone who did, I respect their feelings on the matter. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Tue, 2/3/09, E Scanlon wrote: From: E Scanlon Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions To: "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 10:49 AM While the design of the Rising Sun may appeal to some, it harbors some of the same sentiment as the Swastika to others. Heck, even the "Iron Cross" or Maltese Cross wheels on the Z's in later years caused some to remove them just because of the association with WWI Germany. Apologies to anyone that may take offense to this, as that is not my intent. E ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as stebharvey at ameritech.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com Tue Feb 3 17:00:39 2009 From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:00:39 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions In-Reply-To: <213026.41611.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001201c9865b$9dd68f40$0402a8c0@D4RK97B1JR> In light of some of these sensitivities, I run a window decal on my roadster (got it from one of the many US Veterans advocacy groups) that says: "Enjoy your Freedom, Thank a Vet" the words are positioned around a US flag. Joe -----Original Message----- My dad spent 2-1/2 years or so in North Africa and Italy with the 1st Armored Division (Old Ironsides), being shot at by the Wehrmacht and the Luftwaffe, and when I was in high school (closer to the end of WWII than we are now to the end of the Vietnam War...) he made me get rid of my "surfer's cross" - a St Christopher medal set in a Maltese cross. He mellowed, though - the last vehicle he bought before he died was a VW Camper Van; and you could have knocked me over with a feather. Hard to understand, maybe, for those of us who didn't live through it - but having grown up with someone who did, I respect their feelings on the matter. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Tue, 2/3/09, E Scanlon wrote: From: E Scanlon While the design of the Rising Sun may appeal to some, it harbors some of the same sentiment as the Swastika to others. Heck, even the "Iron Cross" or Maltese Cross wheels on the Z's in later years caused some to remove them just because of the association with WWI Germany. Apologies to anyone that may take offense to this, as that is not my intent. From daveandlindab at comcast.net Tue Feb 3 19:41:18 2009 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:41:18 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] '70 2L FS in LA, unusual rollbar pic In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ummmmm Unless I misse the subtle sarcasm, I think that Roll bar might be the rear window weather-stripping, which would Defiantly fold up like a cheap tent in a collision. "Yes Sir, the Ultrasound is showing a boy, but that's the umbilical chord" Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: O'Farrell, Fergus [mailto:Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com] Subject: [Roadsters] '70 2L FS in LA, unusual rollbar pic This one has been for sale in the area for a while, but has some new pics added. Never seen this approach to the "rollbar vs rear view mirror restricted vision" topic. Me thinks that without a center brace it'd fold like a pretzel. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/1018515438.html From aultgc at att.net Tue Feb 3 20:35:57 2009 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:35:57 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Overunity Motor? References: <4EDD142303C54777BC95C8170911BAD4@Daryl> Message-ID: <1CBB39876BD54F158A97763FF400F4C0@gaxp1> It's not science fiction -- it's science fantasy. I sincerely doubt that the scruffy-looking individual in the video has found a way around the Third Law of Thermodynamics. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 3:57 AM Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Overunity Motor? > Perpetual Motion Machine??!!? > > Sounds like science fiction......... > > > http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=qaCk0jK--8s&feature=related > > http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=LNBMVsuPdm4&feature=related > > http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=vDeXTXYFKAY&feature=related > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From stevenehlers at charter.net Tue Feb 3 21:09:41 2009 From: stevenehlers at charter.net (Steve Ehlers) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:09:41 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions Message-ID: <49891505.8020002@charter.net> To E Scanlon and others on the list , I felt I had to at least throw my opinion in ,since many here do not even know who I am or what my presence is in the Roadster community . My short Bio to preface this issue follows . I started my shop Rising Sun Performance Inc.also known as Rising Sun Motorsports and our Race team Rising Sun Racing ( Not Scott Schellers endeavor ) back in 1979 . I own the Oldest and Only Datsun / Nissan Z car Specialty ,Restoration and Race shop in North Texas that also works with all Datsun ,Nissan ,and Infiniti autos .I'm also the only Datsun shop that has ever done Datsun Roadster Restoration , and the Only Z shop that has even been a Real Datsun Race car shop in all this time in the North Texas area . So , When I named my Business , Back in '79 ,I didn't really concern myself about my image ,but what the mark stood for . Since I only worked on 1 kind of car ,and Japanese it was ,the name association was a given . Did I concern my self with what old WW 2 Veterans would think ? No . Did it matter ? Not that I could see after 29 years . Have I lost business as the result of what I named the Shop ? Who knows . At this point if it matters to anybody ,and they Drive a Japanese car ,Give me a Break ! Steve Ehlers www.risingsunperformance From escanlon at wa-net.com Tue Feb 3 21:55:03 2009 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:55:03 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions References: <49891505.8020002@charter.net> Message-ID: I had hoped the last line in my post would suffice. It was my attempt at defusing the perception that I held any of the beliefs / opinions I cited. But that having been said, I would like to point out that I did not start the thread, the sub-thread / spin-off, nor did I express any opinion regarding the Rising Sun Image. I was simply replying to Pete, Tom, turbored at gmail, all replying to the originator of the sub-thread, who stated that he found the Rising Sun offensive, and he was asked why that was the case. He has not yet replied. Since you've singled me out, I'll say that you have the wrong impression of my post, and hence of me. You started to read a thread spin-off in the middle of the replies and didn't see the beginning. By the way, the link to your page doesn't work as typed. E From ljordan704 at netscape.net Tue Feb 3 22:12:08 2009 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 00:12:08 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions In-Reply-To: References: <49891505.8020002@charter.net> Message-ID: <8CB549E4337ABA8-924-D28@WEBMAIL-MC05.sysops.aol.com> These things always seem to go bad don't they? Back to our regularly scheduled programming.............. which gets away from politics, religion, health etc etc Roadsters Linda From stevenehlers at charter.net Tue Feb 3 22:28:47 2009 From: stevenehlers at charter.net (Steve Ehlers) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 23:28:47 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions Message-ID: <4989278F.6080208@charter.net> Hey E , I wasn't trying to single you out ,as I get the Digest Version of the forum and you were the last listed . I wasn't pointing at you at all as you don't have a problem with the thread either . Yes ,I forgot the .com , I saw after I hit the send button .It's just late and my bad typing ! My browsers are smart enough that you don't even have to add the extension ,for a URL to work . Anyways it is : www.risingsunperformance.com Steve From daveandlindab at comcast.net Tue Feb 3 23:23:24 2009 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 01:23:24 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions In-Reply-To: <8CB549E4337ABA8-924-D28@WEBMAIL-MC05.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: My personal opinion on the Rising Sun on a Japanese car or related stuff, no problem, your car/business do as you like. Some people are offended by the Confederate Flag or Peace Signs, others not. I think it all depends on the context and the intent, and either way you can't please everyone. My company logo is a Maltese/Iron Cross, because I like the way it looks and it's a goof on a popular logo. My Father was 8th Air Force in England, WWII and regularly scraped the remains of crew members from B-24's. I can't see him being offended in the least, but that was his personality. Some other German symbols would have caused a VERY different reaction from him. Jesse James (from West Coast Choppers) now HE may be annoyed with me. Dave Brisco From andycost at embarqmail.com Tue Feb 3 23:21:16 2009 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 00:21:16 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I replied off-list which is where most of these replies belong. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of E Scanlon Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:55 PM To: Steve Ehlers; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions I was simply replying to Pete, Tom, turbored at gmail, all replying to the originator of the sub-thread, who stated that he found the Rising Sun offensive, and he was asked why that was the case. He has not yet replied. From Franrohde at aol.com Wed Feb 4 05:37:22 2009 From: Franrohde at aol.com (Franrohde at aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:37:22 EST Subject: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions Message-ID: Enough already - with the political, religious, WW2 stories. Everyone's gonna be insulted about somethin' Waaaa. This is about sportscars, isn't it? Datsuns? I call it the pussification of our nation. Don't hurt my feelings - ok. I gotta go hug a tree. Fran 67.5 1600 **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick. net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) From eddietude at socal.rr.com Wed Feb 4 09:43:13 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 08:43:13 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions/Pussification of our nation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4989C5A1.4010906@socal.rr.com> I agree 100% with the "pussification of our nation" comment. People today don't seem to understand that what made this country great was the uniqueness of it's citizens. Now, everyone wants to appear to be "the same" as everyone else, and no one wants to "take chances" by doing anything outside the box. You know what? That's why our country is floundering, and why many of our big business are all going under. Pussification. CEO's didn't want to take chances either, or they were just stupid in the chances they did take. It's also why people are loosing their homes too. Many wanted to "keep up with the Jones" for fear of being looked down upon, so they bought crap and homes they couldn't afford just to look and be "popular". More pussification. It's all CRAP! Franrohde at aol.com wrote: > Enough already - with the political, religious, WW2 stories. Everyone's > gonna be insulted > about somethin' Waaaa. This is about sportscars, isn't it? Datsuns? > I call it the pussification of our nation. Don't hurt my feelings - ok. > I gotta go hug a tree. > Fran > 67.5 1600 > **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick. > net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gogineni.alvin at gene.com Wed Feb 4 10:14:20 2009 From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:14:20 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions/Pussification of our nation In-Reply-To: <4989C5A1.4010906@socal.rr.com> References: <4989C5A1.4010906@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <000901c986ec$049642d0$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com> Did anyone ever weigh a set of Nismo Competition rear leaf springs? I just shipped a set and they are 51.1lbs!!!! Those are some heavy springs! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eddie Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:43 AM Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions/Pussification of our nation I agree 100% with the "pussification of our nation" comment. People today don't seem to understand that what made this country great was the uniqueness of it's citizens. Now, everyone wants to appear to be "the same" as everyone else, and no one wants to "take chances" by doing anything outside the box. You know what? That's why our country is floundering, and why many of our big business are all going under. Pussification. CEO's didn't want to take chances either, or they were just stupid in the chances they did take. It's also why people are loosing their homes too. Many wanted to "keep up with the Jones" for fear of being looked down upon, so they bought crap and homes they couldn't afford just to look and be "popular". More pussification. It's all CRAP! Franrohde at aol.com wrote: > Enough already - with the political, religious, WW2 stories. Everyone's > gonna be insulted > about somethin' Waaaa. This is about sportscars, isn't it? Datsuns? > I call it the pussification of our nation. Don't hurt my feelings - ok. > I gotta go hug a tree. > Fran > 67.5 1600 > **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=htt p://ad.doubleclick. > net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as gogineni.alvin at gene.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From nmleeds at mindspring.com Wed Feb 4 10:21:05 2009 From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (nmleeds at mindspring.com) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:21:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] Pussification of our nation Message-ID: <4804159.1233768065454.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Testify!!! Weird old sports cars are social policy. -----Original Message----- >From: Eddie >Sent: Feb 4, 2009 11:43 AM >To: >Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions/Pussification of our nation > >I agree 100% with the "pussification of our nation" comment. People >today don't seem to understand that what made this country great was the >uniqueness of it's citizens. Now, everyone wants to appear to be "the >same" as everyone else, and no one wants to "take chances" by doing >anything outside the box. You know what? That's why our country is >floundering, and why many of our big business are all going under. >Pussification. CEO's didn't want to take chances either, or they were >just stupid in the chances they did take. > >It's also why people are loosing their homes too. Many wanted to "keep >up with the Jones" for fear of being looked down upon, so they bought >crap and homes they couldn't afford just to look and be "popular". More >pussification. > >It's all CRAP! > > > >Franrohde at aol.com wrote: >> Enough already - with the political, religious, WW2 stories. Everyone's >> gonna be insulted >> about somethin' Waaaa. This is about sportscars, isn't it? Datsuns? >> I call it the pussification of our nation. Don't hurt my feelings - ok. >> I gotta go hug a tree. >> Fran >> 67.5 1600 >> **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. >> (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick. >> net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as nmleeds at mindspring.com > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ronnie.day at gmail.com Wed Feb 4 10:26:31 2009 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:26:31 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions/Pussification of our nation In-Reply-To: <4989C5A1.4010906@socal.rr.com> References: <4989C5A1.4010906@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <2faaebf80902040926k4c4d7085p16472537a3e721a4@mail.gmail.com> Even though I have an opinion on this subject, this list isn't the place to express or debate it. If you folks want to continue the discuss, fine, but please take it off list. Thanks, Ron On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Eddie wrote: > I agree 100% with the "pussification of our nation" comment. People today > don't seem to understand that what made this country great was the > uniqueness of it's citizens. Now, everyone wants to appear to be "the same" > as everyone else, and no one wants to "take chances" by doing anything > outside the box. You know what? That's why our country is floundering, and > why many of our big business are all going under. Pussification. CEO's > didn't want to take chances either, or they were just stupid in the chances > they did take. > It's also why people are loosing their homes too. Many wanted to "keep up > with the Jones" for fear of being looked down upon, so they bought crap and > homes they couldn't afford just to look and be "popular". More > pussification. > It's all CRAP! > > > Franrohde at aol.com wrote: > >> Enough already - with the political, religious, WW2 stories. Everyone's >> gonna be insulted >> about somethin' Waaaa. This is about sportscars, isn't it? Datsuns? I >> call it the pussification of our nation. Don't hurt my feelings - ok. >> I gotta go hug a tree. >> Fran >> 67.5 1600 >> **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. ( >> http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick >> . >> net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ronnie.day at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- Ron From boakes at gmail.com Wed Feb 4 10:31:18 2009 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:31:18 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions/Pussification of our nation In-Reply-To: <4989C5A1.4010906@socal.rr.com> References: <4989C5A1.4010906@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <3ad057d60902040931x373532d8vc92afd7c82a2b207@mail.gmail.com> To whoever commented that "these discussions never go well", yes, I agree. And too bad. This started as a group of interesting opinions, somewhat relevant, during a quiet period, with respect. Now it's down to name calling and disrespect. I think what made this country great was the guts to handle other peoples opinions. On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Eddie wrote: > I agree 100% with the "pussification of our nation" comment. People today > don't seem to understand that what made this country great was the > uniqueness of it's citizens. Now, everyone wants to appear to be "the same" > as everyone else, and no one wants to "take chances" by doing anything > outside the box. You know what? That's why our country is floundering, and > why many of our big business are all going under. Pussification. CEO's > didn't want to take chances either, or they were just stupid in the chances > they did take. > It's also why people are loosing their homes too. Many wanted to "keep up > with the Jones" for fear of being looked down upon, so they bought crap and > homes they couldn't afford just to look and be "popular". More > pussification. > It's all CRAP! > > > Franrohde at aol.com wrote: >> >> Enough already - with the political, religious, WW2 stories. Everyone's >> gonna be insulted >> about somethin' Waaaa. This is about sportscars, isn't it? Datsuns? I >> call it the pussification of our nation. Don't hurt my feelings - ok. >> I gotta go hug a tree. >> Fran >> 67.5 1600 >> **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. >> (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick. >> net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as boakes at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Feb 4 10:46:07 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:46:07 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] RX7 rear end with 4-link Message-ID: <020420091746.4903.4989D45F0000E97F000013272200737478CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Early pics of 1984-1985 RX7 GSL-SE with 4-link going into Alvin's roadster, courtesy of Dan Gallmeister (DGR Fabrication). Enjoy. From eddietude at socal.rr.com Wed Feb 4 11:14:14 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:14:14 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions/Pussification of our nation In-Reply-To: <3ad057d60902040931x373532d8vc92afd7c82a2b207@mail.gmail.com> References: <4989C5A1.4010906@socal.rr.com> <3ad057d60902040931x373532d8vc92afd7c82a2b207@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4989DAF6.4020506@socal.rr.com> Name calling? Who's name calling? we're all just voicing various opinions. If people could just enjoy the debate and not take it personally, (ie pussification) then it would all be fine. I agree, what made this country great was the guts to handle other people's opinions. And the reverse of that, NOT having the guts to handle other people's opinions is.... pussification... LOL Bill Oakes wrote: > To whoever commented that "these discussions never go well", yes, I agree. > > And too bad. This started as a group of interesting opinions, somewhat > relevant, during a quiet period, with respect. > > Now it's down to name calling and disrespect. > > I think what made this country great was the guts to handle other > peoples opinions. > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Eddie wrote: > >> I agree 100% with the "pussification of our nation" comment. People today >> don't seem to understand that what made this country great was the >> uniqueness of it's citizens. Now, everyone wants to appear to be "the same" >> as everyone else, and no one wants to "take chances" by doing anything >> outside the box. You know what? That's why our country is floundering, and >> why many of our big business are all going under. Pussification. CEO's >> didn't want to take chances either, or they were just stupid in the chances >> they did take. >> It's also why people are loosing their homes too. Many wanted to "keep up >> with the Jones" for fear of being looked down upon, so they bought crap and >> homes they couldn't afford just to look and be "popular". More >> pussification. >> It's all CRAP! >> >> >> Franrohde at aol.com wrote: >> >>> Enough already - with the political, religious, WW2 stories. Everyone's >>> gonna be insulted >>> about somethin' Waaaa. This is about sportscars, isn't it? Datsuns? I >>> call it the pussification of our nation. Don't hurt my feelings - ok. >>> I gotta go hug a tree. >>> Fran >>> 67.5 1600 >>> **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. >>> (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick. >>> net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) >>> ________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com >>> >>> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >>> >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as boakes at gmail.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From eddietude at socal.rr.com Wed Feb 4 11:15:01 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:15:01 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions/Pussification of our nation In-Reply-To: <2faaebf80902040925seca52ddj927d39aa1cc9ec9a@mail.gmail.com> References: <4989C5A1.4010906@socal.rr.com> <2faaebf80902040925seca52ddj927d39aa1cc9ec9a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4989DB25.7060300@socal.rr.com> Waaaaah! Ronnie Day wrote: > Even though I have an opinion on this subject, this list isn't the > place to express or debate it. If you folks want to continue the > discuss, fine, but please take it off list. > > Thanks, > Ron > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Eddie > wrote: > > I agree 100% with the "pussification of our nation" comment. > People today don't seem to understand that what made this country > great was the uniqueness of it's citizens. Now, everyone wants to > appear to be "the same" as everyone else, and no one wants to > "take chances" by doing anything outside the box. You know what? > That's why our country is floundering, and why many of our big > business are all going under. Pussification. CEO's didn't want > to take chances either, or they were just stupid in the chances > they did take. > It's also why people are loosing their homes too. Many wanted to > "keep up with the Jones" for fear of being looked down upon, so > they bought crap and homes they couldn't afford just to look and > be "popular". More pussification. > It's all CRAP! > > > Franrohde at aol.com wrote: > > Enough already - with the political, religious, WW2 stories. > Everyone's gonna be insulted > about somethin' Waaaa. This is about sportscars, isn't it? > Datsuns? I call it the pussification of our nation. Don't > hurt my feelings - ok. > I gotta go hug a tree. > Fran > 67.5 1600 > **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick. > net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ronnie.day at gmail.com > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > > > -- > Ron From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov Wed Feb 4 11:22:59 2009 From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:22:59 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] RX7 rear end with 4-link In-Reply-To: <020420091746.4903.4989D45F0000E97F000013272200737478CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> References: <020420091746.4903.4989D45F0000E97F000013272200737478CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF7601633597@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> What gear ratio is the RX7 rear end and how are you mounting shocks/springs? I assume coil overs. Nice work! Phil Hall NASA/MSFC/ED03 Systems Engineering work : 256-544-2525 cell: 256-975-6385 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:46 AM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] RX7 rear end with 4-link Early pics of 1984-1985 RX7 GSL-SE with 4-link going into Alvin's roadster, courtesy of Dan Gallmeister (DGR Fabrication). Enjoy. You are subscribed as phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From Walter.Peterson at cox.net Wed Feb 4 11:36:00 2009 From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter Peterson) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:36:00 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000d01c986f7$6d975c50$48c614f0$@Peterson@cox.net> I've had no problem with this thread. It's been civil and like all other interesting threads, it will run its course and eventually die of natural causes. However, my "fence walking" view of The rising Sun logo and by inference, Asian pride goes like this: Back around 1978 when I was first introduced to Slalom & Time trial racing (Now SCCA SOLO I & SOLO II) I met a core group of Datsun fanatics closely tied to the Datsun competition department. These folks taught me to stop racing on the street & to get my kicks on the track, which likely saved my life, gave me a new one and started my love & respect for the 510, Roadster & Z. One of these guys started Rising Sun Motorsports in Redondo Beach (Now defunct). He needed a name and logo that everyone could easily identify with and this was a natural. I bought one of my first 2 Roadsters from him. Fast forward a few years and in the South Bay & greater area of Los Angeles & San Francisco; you may remember the proliferation of East Asian calligraphy & Logos on import cars which are still a staple to this day. These cars were seemingly a small slice of the hot-rodding or car tuning community. Those import cars & motorcycles of the time gave rise to the pseudo-derogatory term "Rice burners". When used in proper context, it can be a display of pride. Kind of like those "crappy Sony 10-transistor radios" of the time, these cars & products have become the wonder of the world and a significant economic market of their own. My 50 year old "White bread" perspective is: I forgive the ALL war veterans who have an unwavering bias against foreign cultures & products. They fought a hard battle then & today, and have maintained our freedoms. Learning tolerance is a cyclical thing throughout history. However, I'm offended when I hear purposely derogatory remarks at any stage of their life (the war is over & they should know better by now.) and out of respect I do my best to defuse the situation. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if it's wrong (joke). :). Meanwhile, I'll still have fun trying to kick your ass on the Slalom course, and my son just graduated from Marine boot camp (MCRD San Diego, Kilo Company) Walter Peterson Goleta Ca, 93117 Street driven race motor 2000 3-Main(R) Solexes,cam etc. 5-Speed & LSD. From gogineni.alvin at gene.com Wed Feb 4 12:02:03 2009 From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:02:03 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] RX7 rear end with 4-link In-Reply-To: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF7601633597@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> References: <020420091746.4903.4989D45F0000E97F000013272200737478CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF7601633597@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <002901c986fb$10c55190$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com> 4.11 LSD is stock Coli-overs, possibly to stock location, spring rate to be determined! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03) Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:23 AM To: Pete Peters; Datsun Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] RX7 rear end with 4-link What gear ratio is the RX7 rear end and how are you mounting shocks/springs? I assume coil overs. Nice work! Phil Hall NASA/MSFC/ED03 Systems Engineering work : 256-544-2525 cell: 256-975-6385 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:46 AM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] RX7 rear end with 4-link Early pics of 1984-1985 RX7 GSL-SE with 4-link going into Alvin's roadster, courtesy of Dan Gallmeister (DGR Fabrication). Enjoy. You are subscribed as phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as gogineni.alvin at gene.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From bubwin at mts.net Wed Feb 4 12:56:39 2009 From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:56:39 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <431F5A371B5845929A156B95DC6ACDB3@ownerPC> I've raised 3 teenage boys who all found the Rising Sun offensive . . .Every Saturday morning when I woke them to cut the grass. Kinda puts things in perspective as to how each generation looks at something doesn't it? Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender 1972-510 Daisy 1972-510 Spare Change ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Cost" To: "Roadster List" Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions >I replied off-list which is where most of these replies belong. > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of E Scanlon > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:55 PM > To: Steve Ehlers; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions > > I was simply replying to Pete, Tom, turbored at gmail, all replying to the > originator of the sub-thread, who stated that he found the Rising Sun > offensive, and he was asked why that was the case. He has not yet > replied. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin at mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ronnie.day at gmail.com Wed Feb 4 13:03:29 2009 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:03:29 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] RX7 rear end with 4-link In-Reply-To: <002901c986fb$10c55190$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com> References: <020420091746.4903.4989D45F0000E97F000013272200737478CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF7601633597@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> <002901c986fb$10c55190$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com> Message-ID: <2faaebf80902041203j19f5e37ct4a1395b1a91452c3@mail.gmail.com> If I understand what you're saying, can the upper shock mount handle the spring loads? On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Alvin Gogineni wrote: > 4.11 LSD is stock > Coli-overs, possibly to stock location, spring rate to be determined! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Hall, > Phillip > B. (MSFC-ED03) > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:23 AM > To: Pete Peters; Datsun Roadster List > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] RX7 rear end with 4-link > > What gear ratio is the RX7 rear end and how are you mounting > shocks/springs? I assume coil overs. > > Nice work! > > > Phil Hall > NASA/MSFC/ED03 > Systems Engineering > work : 256-544-2525 > cell: 256-975-6385 > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete > Peters > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:46 AM > To: Datsun Roadster List > Subject: [Roadsters] RX7 rear end with 4-link > > Early pics of 1984-1985 RX7 GSL-SE with 4-link going into Alvin's > roadster, courtesy of Dan Gallmeister (DGR Fabrication). Enjoy. > > ter%204%20link/> > You are subscribed as phillip.b.hall at nasa.gov > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > You are subscribed as gogineni.alvin at gene.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ronnie.day at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- Ron From aultgc at att.net Wed Feb 4 13:26:24 2009 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:26:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions References: <431F5A371B5845929A156B95DC6ACDB3@ownerPC> Message-ID: <837578.74015.qm@web180114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Bubba, I thought that's what the first comment meant: He wasn't a morning person. I can relate to that. Although, watching the sun come up over a cold water lake with a cold beer in one hand and your spinning rod in the other isn't bad. Almost as good a drifting a corner in your roadster, and hitting the next gear just at the right point. Gary ________________________________ From: Bubba To: Roadster List Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 1:56:39 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions I've raised 3 teenage boys who all found the Rising Sun offensive . . .Every Saturday morning when I woke them to cut the grass. Kinda puts things in perspective as to how each generation looks at something doesn't it? Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender 1972-510 Daisy 1972-510 Spare Change ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Cost" To: "Roadster List" Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions >I replied off-list which is where most of these replies belong. > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of E Scanlon > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:55 PM > To: Steve Ehlers; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions > > I was simply replying to Pete, Tom, turbored at gmail, all replying to the > originator of the sub-thread, who stated that he found the Rising Sun > offensive, and he was asked why that was the case. He has not yet > replied. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin at mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From twobeaners at earthlink.net Wed Feb 4 14:46:41 2009 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 15:46:41 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions Message-ID: <02bb01c98712$112c0b30$6400a8c0@LAP120> Once, in the 5th grade, I was told to leave the classroom and stand outside in the hallway, because I simply said I didn't have an opinion about something being discussed. Now, as then, I don't have an opinion about this either. I am non-plussed. I am without plus. I will now go into the garage and sit in the roadster. Mike Hudson From drlsmith at dccnet.com Wed Feb 4 15:28:56 2009 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:28:56 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions/Pussification of our nation References: <4989C5A1.4010906@socal.rr.com> <2faaebf80902040925seca52ddj927d39aa1cc9ec9a@mail.gmail.com> <4989DB25.7060300@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: From: "Eddie" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions/Pussification of our nation > Waaaaah! C'mon guys. We're past grade 8 here. There's no reason for this type of response. If you can't reply intelligently, let's try at least to keep it respectful and thoughtful. We'll all benefit. I'm fine with any topic here as long as it is kept well above name calling and put downs. Daryl Smith Delta, BC, Canada....Eh! From mltyler at mac.com Wed Feb 4 16:20:25 2009 From: mltyler at mac.com (Marc Tyler) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:20:25 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] The most incremental progress. Message-ID: It's been a long time since the motor as been in the roadster. The Mikuni HSRs fit with no clearance issues on the stock inlet manifold. Need a new radiator before I run in the cam. So does a Del Sol radiator actually fit, or not? http://www.flickr.com/photos/13359925 at N02/3249075782/?rotated=1&cb=1233789381805 http://www.flickr.com/photos/13359925 at N02/3248235633/in/photostream/ Marc Tyler mltyler at mac.com From printner at att.net Wed Feb 4 16:30:15 2009 From: printner at att.net (Tim Waltz) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:30:15 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for a single solex In-Reply-To: References: <4989C5A1.4010906@socal.rr.com> <2faaebf80902040925seca52ddj927d39aa1cc9ec9a@mail.gmail.com> <4989DB25.7060300@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <010101c98720$9933c5a0$cb9b50e0$@net> I'm looking for a single type S4 solex carb, 40mm, for my stroker. http://www.wolfcreekracing.com/carbid.html (3rd one down) I have a couple sets of the Type R, but my linkage works better with the S4. If anybody has one (or a pair they won't separate), please let me know. Tim 67.5 1600 From eddietude at socal.rr.com Wed Feb 4 16:47:27 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 15:47:27 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions/Pussification of our nation In-Reply-To: References: <4989C5A1.4010906@socal.rr.com> <2faaebf80902040925seca52ddj927d39aa1cc9ec9a@mail.gmail.com> <4989DB25.7060300@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <498A290F.8060808@socal.rr.com> Double Waaah, and your "Eh" is equally as offensive! JUST KIDDING! Lighten up everyone! Daryl Smith wrote: > > From: "Eddie" > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rising Sun opinions/Pussification of our nation > > >> Waaaaah! > > > C'mon guys. We're past grade 8 here. There's no reason for this type > of response. > If you can't reply intelligently, let's try at least to keep it > respectful and thoughtful. > We'll all benefit. > I'm fine with any topic here as long as it is kept well above name > calling and put downs. > > Daryl Smith > Delta, BC, Canada....Eh! From datsun_girl at yahoo.com Wed Feb 4 17:33:44 2009 From: datsun_girl at yahoo.com (Datsun Girl) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:33:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Pussification (?) of our nation In-Reply-To: <498A290F.8060808@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <370179.87807.qm@web55201.mail.re4.yahoo.com> You guys realize there ARE women on this list, right?? From eddietude at socal.rr.com Wed Feb 4 19:27:45 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:27:45 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Pussification (?) of our nation In-Reply-To: <370179.87807.qm@web55201.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <370179.87807.qm@web55201.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <498A4EA1.5090403@socal.rr.com> And your point would be????? Datsun Girl wrote: > You guys realize there ARE women on this list, right?? From drlsmith at dccnet.com Wed Feb 4 21:07:51 2009 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:07:51 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] The most incremental progress. References: Message-ID: Looks great Marc! Is this a stroker? What carbs did you use? 42, 45, or 48's? Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Tyler" To: "datsun Roadster List" Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 3:20 PM Subject: [Roadsters] The most incremental progress. > It's been a long time since the motor as been in the roadster. The > Mikuni HSRs fit with no clearance issues on the stock inlet manifold. > Need a new radiator before I run in the cam. So does a Del Sol radiator > actually fit, or not? > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/13359925 at N02/3249075782/?rotated=1&cb=1233789381805 > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/13359925 at N02/3248235633/in/photostream/ > > > Marc Tyler > mltyler at mac.com From johnwightman at shaw.ca Thu Feb 5 02:27:19 2009 From: johnwightman at shaw.ca (John Wightman) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 01:27:19 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Pussification (?) of our nation In-Reply-To: <370179.87807.qm@web55201.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <498A290F.8060808@socal.rr.com> <370179.87807.qm@web55201.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002101c98773$f13bb2a0$d3b317e0$@ca> Then "pussification" should be a compliment, no? ;-) -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Datsun Girl Sent: February-04-09 4:34 PM To: Daryl Smith; Eddie Cc: Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] Pussification (?) of our nation You guys realize there ARE women on this list, right?? ________________________________________ From mltyler at mac.com Thu Feb 5 07:34:01 2009 From: mltyler at mac.com (Marc Tyler) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:34:01 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] The most incremental progress. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Daryl, Not a stroker, but it has a DR-66 cam in. The bore on the Mikunis is 42. And if they don't work as hoped, I 'll be able to return to SU's without too much bother, I made a point not to hack anything. On Feb 4, 2009, at 10:07 PM, Daryl Smith wrote: > Looks great Marc! > > Is this a stroker? > What carbs did you use? 42, 45, or 48's? > > Daryl Marc Tyler mltyler at mac.com From aybreeze at comcast.net Thu Feb 5 09:22:43 2009 From: aybreeze at comcast.net (aybreeze at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 16:22:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Pussification Message-ID: <1191445020.631071233850963854.JavaMail.root@sz0038a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> pussification 138 up , 6 down love ithate it pussification(noun): the state in which a society becomes less and less tough. This noun's originator is the famous comedian George Carlin. "We are undergoing a pussification of our entire society." In my home town ,London England, To be called a pussy,B is short for pussy cat ,which simply implied you were easy to please and not easily upset ,as apposed to a dog which required walking and maintenanceB like my roadster Keep smiling B B B B Arthur From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Feb 5 10:18:30 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:18:30 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Pussification (?) of our nation Message-ID: <020520091718.21567.498B1F66000AC06B0000543F2200745672CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> C'mon guys. This ain't helping. Times like this I wish this list had a moderator. Pete "almost Friday" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "John Wightman" > Then "pussification" should be a compliment, no? ;-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Datsun Girl > Sent: February-04-09 4:34 PM > To: Daryl Smith; Eddie > Cc: Datsun Roadster List > Subject: [Roadsters] Pussification (?) of our nation > > You guys realize there ARE women on this list, right?? From efrisbee at charter.net Thu Feb 5 10:43:05 2009 From: efrisbee at charter.net (Eric Frisbee) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:43:05 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Pussification (?) of our nation In-Reply-To: <020520091718.21567.498B1F66000AC06B0000543F2200745672CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Message-ID: You do have a moderator... it's called the Delete Key. :) Eric -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 11:19 AM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Pussification (?) of our nation C'mon guys. This ain't helping. Times like this I wish this list had a moderator. Pete "almost Friday" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "John Wightman" > Then "pussification" should be a compliment, no? ;-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Datsun Girl > Sent: February-04-09 4:34 PM > To: Daryl Smith; Eddie > Cc: Datsun Roadster List > Subject: [Roadsters] Pussification (?) of our nation > > You guys realize there ARE women on this list, right?? ________________________________________ S No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1936 - Release Date: 2/5/2009 11:34 AM From slowboy at cox.net Thu Feb 5 12:01:07 2009 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:01:07 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 311s BB Is Up Message-ID: <7BDAFF552C154AEF8286506D4A06B58D@m7170n> For those a sleep at the wheel, the 311s BB is up. From aultgc at att.net Thu Feb 5 12:35:24 2009 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:35:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Pussification (?) of our nation References: <020520091718.21567.498B1F66000AC06B0000543F2200745672CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <716764.17892.qm@web180105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Pete, I find that "Delete" when I see the subject works real well for me. Almost did that with yours, but decided to read it. Gary To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2009 11:18:30 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Pussification (?) of our nation C'mon guys. This ain't helping. Times like this I wish this list had a moderator. Pete "almost Friday" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "John Wightman" > Then "pussification" should be a compliment, no? ;-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Datsun Girl > Sent: February-04-09 4:34 PM > To: Daryl Smith; Eddie > Cc: Datsun Roadster List > Subject: [Roadsters] Pussification (?) of our nation > > You guys realize there ARE women on this list, right?? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From merlinb at nissansportmag.com Thu Feb 5 18:22:22 2009 From: merlinb at nissansportmag.com (merlinb at nissansportmag.com) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 01:22:22 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] reintro- longtime lurker Message-ID: Hey folks, Merlin from Datsunhistory.com, and Now Nissansport Mag, here just saying hi again after a long absence from an comment on this list... My last articles were the "50 years of Nissan USA" series in the last issue of NissanSport, the current issue has project 510 pt1 , and hopefully the next issue will have "the racing history of Nissan in the USA". My only roadster project is a 69 1600 - which I have most of the parts collected for -including a KA24de, but need to finish some 510's up before I can get to it. I also have nissan's digital Parts catalog on my computers, so if you need a PN for any car 1965-05, I'll take some of those info requests as well. Merlin merlinb at nissansportmag.com From mltyler at mac.com Thu Feb 5 19:39:29 2009 From: mltyler at mac.com (Marc Tyler) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:39:29 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] reintro- longtime lurker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <866E4A39-9CF1-4B86-91D6-6550CEAC6304@mac.com> Welcome! Post links to pics when you can! -Marc On Feb 5, 2009, at 7:22 PM, merlinb at nissansportmag.com wrote: > Hey folks, > > Merlin from Datsunhistory.com, and Now Nissansport Mag, here just > saying hi > again after a long absence from an comment on this list... > > My last articles were the "50 years of Nissan USA" series in the > last issue of > NissanSport, the current issue has project 510 pt1 , and hopefully > the next > issue will have "the racing history of Nissan in the USA". > > My only roadster project is a 69 1600 - which I have most of the parts > collected for -including a KA24de, but need to finish some 510's up > before I > can get to it. > > I also have nissan's digital Parts catalog on my computers, so if > you need a > PN for any car 1965-05, I'll take some of those info requests as well. > > > Merlin > merlinb at nissansportmag.com > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mltyler at mac.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Marc Tyler mltyler at mac.com From tputland at charter.net Fri Feb 6 07:47:51 2009 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 6:47:51 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Tankless water heaters Message-ID: <20090206094752.MZQL3.78320.root@mp06> Sorry for the OT... Does any one on this list have a tank-less water heater? Or know someone who does? Please reply off list. TIA Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning From whamba at earthlink.net Fri Feb 6 08:11:35 2009 From: whamba at earthlink.net (Matthew Smith) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:11:35 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Light Switch Wiring 1970 SRL Message-ID: Hi All, I recently acquired a headlight switch for my car. This switch has the stock plug for going into the wiring harness. The original switch had previously been removed and replaced with toggle switches. I would like to install this light switch. I have a wiring diagram for the car, but as the "harness" end of the plug has been removed, I don't know which wires go where in the switch plug. This plug has 5 connectors in a 6 connector plug. They are laid out kind of like this: _ _ _ _ _ The wires should be Red / Green, Green / White, Green / Blue, Black, and Red /Yellow. Would one of you be able to help me figure out how these wires are laid out in the plug? Thanks, Matt Smith, Nashville From fairlady66 at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 10:27:08 2009 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:27:08 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Question Message-ID: Have you been receiving any messages on this list from Jeff Torres regarding the Solvang Show. I know I have forwarded some, but has anyone received them directly from him? Sometimes servers can be so much fun. I had problems a while back trying to email some friends and all my messages were being bounced back, even when I email myself. I was told it was a snafu... whatever that is.... Anyways just wondering. -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri Feb 6 10:32:12 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 17:32:12 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Jeff Torres' Solvang emails (was "Re: Question") Message-ID: <020620091732.1547.498C741C000215330000060B2209224627CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> I emailed Jeff about that. For some reason, Jeff's emails to the list do not get delivered....and no errors. It -HAS- to be his ISP, but they haven't been helpful. SNAFU = Situation Normal All Forked Up Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" > Have you been receiving any messages on this list from Jeff Torres regarding > the Solvang Show. I know I have forwarded some, but has anyone received them > directly from him? > > Sometimes servers can be so much fun. I had problems a while back trying to > email some friends and all my messages were being bounced back, even when I > email myself. I was told it was a snafu... whatever that is.... > > Anyways just wondering. > > > -- > '66 1600 > Riverside, CA > ------------------------------------------------------ > This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. > > If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky > enough. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From slowboy at cox.net Fri Feb 6 13:52:23 2009 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 13:52:23 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Light Switch Wiring 1970 SRL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <34A6C346DC5B49F0BF9624E19AC55F9C@m7170n> Matt, See attached picture. The rest of you, it's imagination time. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Smith Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:12 AM To: 'datsun' Subject: [Roadsters] Light Switch Wiring 1970 SRL Hi All, I recently acquired a headlight switch for my car. This switch has the stock plug for going into the wiring harness. The original switch had previously been removed and replaced with toggle switches. I would like to install this light switch. I have a wiring diagram for the car, but as the "harness" end of the plug has been removed, I don't know which wires go where in the switch plug. This plug has 5 connectors in a 6 connector plug. They are laid out kind of like this: _ _ _ _ _ The wires should be Red / Green, Green / White, Green / Blue, Black, and Red /Yellow. Would one of you be able to help me figure out how these wires are laid out in the plug? Thanks, Matt Smith, Nashville ________________________________________ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Lights.jpg] From whamba at earthlink.net Fri Feb 6 19:57:47 2009 From: whamba at earthlink.net (Matthew Smith) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 20:57:47 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Light Switch Wiring 1970 SRL In-Reply-To: <34A6C346DC5B49F0BF9624E19AC55F9C@m7170n> Message-ID: SWEET!!!!! Thank you, Jim!!! -----Original Message----- From: SlowBoy [mailto:slowboy at cox.net] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:52 PM To: whamba at earthlink.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Light Switch Wiring 1970 SRL Matt, See attached picture. The rest of you, it's imagination time. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Smith Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:12 AM To: 'datsun' Subject: [Roadsters] Light Switch Wiring 1970 SRL Hi All, I recently acquired a headlight switch for my car. This switch has the stock plug for going into the wiring harness. The original switch had previously been removed and replaced with toggle switches. I would like to install this light switch. I have a wiring diagram for the car, but as the "harness" end of the plug has been removed, I don't know which wires go where in the switch plug. This plug has 5 connectors in a 6 connector plug. They are laid out kind of like this: _ _ _ _ _ The wires should be Red / Green, Green / White, Green / Blue, Black, and Red /Yellow. Would one of you be able to help me figure out how these wires are laid out in the plug? Thanks, Matt Smith, Nashville ________________________________________ From tom at datsun2000.com Sat Feb 7 09:47:02 2009 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 08:47:02 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Oregon House Bill To Worry About Message-ID: Talk about a nanny state. Oregon has a bill going through the state house right now that will kill all the fun for gearheads. H.B. 2186 forbids replacing the tires on your car with any tire that would increase the rolling resistance. What that means it that wider tires, possibly even snow tires would be prohibited. This bill was recommended by our wonderful governor, who is number 50 in rating of all 50 governors in the US. He thinks this will keep the temp of the earth from rising when for the last three years it has been falling. Not only does this bill forbid using tires that are essentially OEM tires only, many aftermarket parts are also forbidden, including things like wheels and trailer hitches. How many jobs would be lost because of this ridiculous legislation? How many small business owners will have to declare bankruptcy in a time when business is already down? Why does Oregon hate business so much? Isn't it wonderful to live in a state where the unemployment is close to the highest in the land and know that your governor and legislature don't give a #(*& about that minor detail? With the state economy going into the dump you would think they would consider important things that add jobs, not destroy them, and maybe even consider ways to get out of our lives, but no. But then, that would be an absolutely ridiculous thing for a good, caring, responsible politician to do. http://www.streetrodderweb.com/hotnews/0901sr_oregon_introduces_bill_prohibi t_sale_aftermarket_parts/index.html Sorry for the rant, but I wanted people to see what a nanny state does when it only cares about big government and stays up late at night to find small ways to get into the lives of the people. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org From Keith0alan at aol.com Sat Feb 7 09:56:49 2009 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:56:49 EST Subject: [Roadsters] Oregon House Bill To Worry About Message-ID: Ever try to find the original size tires for a roadster? Has anyone measured the rolling resistance of one? Who's job is it to do so? Is Oregon going to fund a tire measuring lab? Remember, half the people have below median intelligence. Why do so many of them end up in government? keith In a message dated 2/7/2009 8:47:39 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, tom at datsun2000.com writes: Talk about a nanny state. Oregon has a bill going through the state house right now that will kill all the fun for gearheads. H.B. 2186 forbids replacing the tires on your car with any tire that would increase the rolling resistance. What that means it that wider tires, possibly even snow tires would be prohibited. This bill was recommended by our wonderful governor, who is number 50 in rating of all 50 governors in the US. He thinks this will keep the temp of the earth from rising when for the last three years it has been falling. Not only does this bill forbid using tires that are essentially OEM tires only, many aftermarket parts are also forbidden, including things like wheels and trailer hitches. How many jobs would be lost because of this ridiculous legislation? How many small business owners will have to declare bankruptcy in a time when business is already down? Why does Oregon hate business so much? Isn't it wonderful to live in a state where the unemployment is close to the highest in the land and know that your governor and legislature don't give a #(*& about that minor detail? With the state economy going into the dump you would think they would consider important things that add jobs, not destroy them, and maybe even consider ways to get out of our lives, but no. But then, that would be an absolutely ridiculous thing for a good, caring, responsible politician to do. http://www.streetrodderweb.com/hotnews/0901sr_oregon_introduces_bill_prohibi t_sale_aftermarket_parts/index.html Sorry for the rant, but I wanted people to see what a nanny state does when it only cares about big government and stays up late at night to find small ways to get into the lives of the people. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org You are subscribed as keith0alan at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick. net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) From michaelspreadbury at comcast.net Sat Feb 7 10:14:24 2009 From: michaelspreadbury at comcast.net (Michael Spreadbury) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:14:24 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun 1500 Parts Blowout Message-ID: <46AB4E130BDE42C9945295721A9194BF@Office1> For those who were interested in the Datsun 1500 Fairlady parts that I have for sale, I have posted 122 images of some of the stuff here: http://s730.photobucket.com/albums/ww310/michael_spreadbury/ Everything listed has prices on it, and this is just scratching the surface of the stuff that I am getting rid of. I am only restoring one car, I don't need these spares and would rather they go to a good home than scrap them. If you need parts, especially mechanical stuff for a 1500, I probably have it! I am located in Corvallis, Oregon Contact me directly at michaelspreadbury at comcast.net if you have any requests or need additional photos. Thanks, Michael Spreadbury Spriso Motorsports Corvallis Oregon From ericerichoffman at yahoo.com Sat Feb 7 11:15:24 2009 From: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com (Eric Hoffman) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:15:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] oregon Message-ID: <545462.73755.qm@web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I wonder how the heck that tire rolling crap could be enforced. On another note Oregon just made mention in Sports Car Market magazine as being the easiest state to register a classic car cheaply in. Apparently you can register your McLaren F1 or Ferrari California Spyder for $125, keep and store it there a few months, and not pay the staggering taxes some other states charge upon initial registration (ie sales tax). Due to bankruptcy Southern California is currently the most expensive place to newly register your car; ironically that's where may high end classics end up. Eric Hoffman From twobeaners at earthlink.net Sat Feb 7 11:17:12 2009 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 12:17:12 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Oregon House Bill To Worry About References: Message-ID: <005701c98950$4caec180$6400a8c0@LAP120> I am constantly amazed by the power of stupid people in large numbers. Mike Hudson ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Oregon House Bill To Worry About > Ever try to find the original size tires for a roadster? Has anyone measured > the rolling resistance of one? Who's job is it to do so? Is Oregon going to > fund a tire measuring lab? > > Remember, half the people have below median intelligence. Why do so many of > them end up in government? > > keith > > > In a message dated 2/7/2009 8:47:39 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > tom at datsun2000.com writes: > > Talk about a nanny state. > > Oregon has a bill going through the state house right now that will kill all > the fun for gearheads. H.B. 2186 forbids replacing the tires on your car > with any tire that would increase the rolling resistance. What that means > it that wider tires, possibly even snow tires would be prohibited. This > bill was recommended by our wonderful governor, who is number 50 in rating > of all 50 governors in the US. He thinks this will keep the temp of the > earth from rising when for the last three years it has been falling. > > Not only does this bill forbid using tires that are essentially OEM tires > only, many aftermarket parts are also forbidden, including things like > wheels and trailer hitches. > > How many jobs would be lost because of this ridiculous legislation? How > many small business owners will have to declare bankruptcy in a time when > business is already down? Why does Oregon hate business so much? > > Isn't it wonderful to live in a state where the unemployment is close to the > highest in the land and know that your governor and legislature don't give a > #(*& about that minor detail? With the state economy going into the dump > you would think they would consider important things that add jobs, not > destroy them, and maybe even consider ways to get out of our lives, but no. > But then, that would be an absolutely ridiculous thing for a good, caring, > responsible politician to do. > > http://www.streetrodderweb.com/hotnews/0901sr_oregon_introduces_bill_prohibi > t_sale_aftermarket_parts/index.html > > Sorry for the rant, but I wanted people to see what a nanny state does when > it only cares about big government and stays up late at night to find small > ways to get into the lives of the people. > > Tom > 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde > Portland > http://www.datsun2000.com > http://www.nowroc.org > You are subscribed as keith0alan at aol.com From eddietude at socal.rr.com Sat Feb 7 11:33:58 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 10:33:58 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Oregon House Bill To Worry About In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <498DD416.10103@socal.rr.com> My guess is that bill will be defeated when the politicians, (who clearly know nothing about cars) figure out that it can't work, can't be enforced, AND in many cases, will be violated by those who are trying to be safer drivers, (like using snow tires.) The link you posted is bad. If you guys really want to make a difference on this bill, post a website or phone number to the governor's office, so people can call and e-mail complaints and explain to them the grotesque faults in this bill. Otherwise, all you're doing is bitching, which doesn't solve anything. Take action, and make it possible for OTHERS to take action as well. Government is only as good as the people, and as we all know, a lot of people are just stupid. That's why SMART people need to stand up... Eddie Tom @ Datsun2000 wrote: > Talk about a nanny state. > > Oregon has a bill going through the state house right now that will kill all > the fun for gearheads. H.B. 2186 forbids replacing the tires on your car > with any tire that would increase the rolling resistance. What that means > it that wider tires, possibly even snow tires would be prohibited. This > bill was recommended by our wonderful governor, who is number 50 in rating > of all 50 governors in the US. He thinks this will keep the temp of the > earth from rising when for the last three years it has been falling. > > Not only does this bill forbid using tires that are essentially OEM tires > only, many aftermarket parts are also forbidden, including things like > wheels and trailer hitches. > > How many jobs would be lost because of this ridiculous legislation? How > many small business owners will have to declare bankruptcy in a time when > business is already down? Why does Oregon hate business so much? > > Isn't it wonderful to live in a state where the unemployment is close to the > highest in the land and know that your governor and legislature don't give a > #(*& about that minor detail? With the state economy going into the dump > you would think they would consider important things that add jobs, not > destroy them, and maybe even consider ways to get out of our lives, but no. > But then, that would be an absolutely ridiculous thing for a good, caring, > responsible politician to do. > > http://www.streetrodderweb.com/hotnews/0901sr_oregon_introduces_bill_prohibi > t_sale_aftermarket_parts/index.html > > Sorry for the rant, but I wanted people to see what a nanny state does when > it only cares about big government and stays up late at night to find small > ways to get into the lives of the people. > > Tom > 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde > Portland > http://www.datsun2000.com > http://www.nowroc.org > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From twobeaners at earthlink.net Sat Feb 7 13:08:04 2009 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:08:04 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Oregon House Bill To Worry About References: <498DD416.10103@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <00d801c9895f$c994a430$6400a8c0@LAP120> I am now standing up. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" To: Cc: "Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Oregon House Bill To Worry About > My guess is that bill will be defeated when the politicians, (who > clearly know nothing about cars) figure out that it can't work, can't be > enforced, AND in many cases, will be violated by those who are trying to > be safer drivers, (like using snow tires.) > > The link you posted is bad. > > If you guys really want to make a difference on this bill, post a > website or phone number to the governor's office, so people can call and > e-mail complaints and explain to them the grotesque faults in this bill. > > Otherwise, all you're doing is bitching, which doesn't solve anything. > Take action, and make it possible for OTHERS to take action as well. > > Government is only as good as the people, and as we all know, a lot of > people are just stupid. That's why SMART people need to stand up... > > Eddie From dbji at whidbey.net Sat Feb 7 13:41:14 2009 From: dbji at whidbey.net (Don Boyd) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 12:41:14 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Oregon House Bill To Worry About Message-ID: <0232D4DB92014E61A39CAA7D2391546A@work> Well, all is not lost you know. Since I bet not one of you guys yelling about this bill has READ it, I think it's safe to say your talking about something you really don't understand. Just what some other mouth told you. Go read it. Carefully. Yes, it's a bad piece of legislation. And it isn't going to pass anyway.Yes it could ban high rolling resistance tires.But note it wouldn't ban all wide tires, just maybe those that take extra rolling power. That still leaves a LOT of leeway. But there is a bright side. If worse came to worse, and only the lowest co emitting devices were allowed on our cars, and that's a bit of a stretch, but since you nervous types seem to think that's all that can possibly come from HB 2186, well lets see. High compression , lightweight moly coated slipper skirt double throw down F-1 spec pistons make LESS co than the stock ones, SO I WILL TAKE FOUR OF THOSE PLEASE. Titanium valves, because they are lighter, will also use less gas, and hence generate less CO2. Eight please! Titanium rods- ditto! Light forged bullet nosed crank- same story. X-trac sequential shift tranny. Well, since emissions are spiking every time you let off the gas to shift, it makes sense that a tranny that shifts in a tenth the time our old 5 speeds would then be an essential co2 reducing component of any green car , don't you think? And the list goes on and on. Efficient exhausts, gears,bearings,cooling systems spoilers,wings yadah yadah daba do. Some well meaning but dim soul dreamed up this bill. He should be exposed to ridicule. The gov should be educated about how to REALLY reduce CO2. If you want to really cut co2, and have the political balls to do it, tax fuel. About 5 or 6 bucks per gallon would do it. I just talked to a guy from Norway, and he's paying 10-12 dollars per gallon. Drives a Jeep Cherokee over there. But not too much! Has a pretty good life over there too I might add. Teaches collage. Just bought a 40 acre Island off the coast to homestead for his family. Pay a bit more in taxes than I do, but I was surprised that it was not more. Last, please don't mistake anything I've written for my heartfelt convictions. But anytime I see someone start foaming at the mouth, it hard not to poke a little fun. Don Boyd From eddietude at socal.rr.com Sat Feb 7 15:55:36 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:55:36 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Oregon House Bill To Worry About In-Reply-To: <0232D4DB92014E61A39CAA7D2391546A@work> References: <0232D4DB92014E61A39CAA7D2391546A@work> Message-ID: <498E1168.6020106@socal.rr.com> "But anytime I see someone start foaming at the mouth, it hard not to poke a little fun." Agreed! lol Don Boyd wrote: > Well, all is not lost you know. Since I bet not one of you guys yelling about > this bill has READ it, I think it's safe to say your talking about something > you really don't understand. Just what some other mouth told you. Go read it. > Carefully. > Yes, it's a bad piece of legislation. And it isn't going to pass > anyway.Yes it could ban high rolling resistance tires.But note it wouldn't ban > all wide tires, just maybe those that take extra rolling power. That still > leaves a LOT of leeway. But there is a bright side. If worse came to worse, > and only the lowest co emitting devices were allowed on our cars, and that's a > bit of a stretch, but since you nervous types seem to think that's all that > can possibly come from HB 2186, well lets see. High compression , lightweight > moly coated slipper skirt double throw down F-1 spec pistons make LESS co than > the stock ones, SO I WILL TAKE FOUR OF THOSE PLEASE. Titanium valves, because > they are lighter, will also use less gas, and hence generate less CO2. Eight > please! Titanium rods- ditto! Light forged bullet nosed crank- same story. > X-trac sequential shift tranny. Well, since emissions are spiking every time > you let off the gas to shift, it makes sense that a tranny that shifts in a > tenth the time our old 5 speeds would then be an essential co2 reducing > component of any green car , don't you think? And the list goes on and on. > Efficient exhausts, gears,bearings,cooling systems spoilers,wings yadah yadah > daba do. > Some well meaning but dim soul dreamed up this bill. He should be exposed to > ridicule. The gov should be educated about how to REALLY reduce CO2. If you > want to really cut co2, and have the political balls to do it, tax fuel. About > 5 or 6 bucks per gallon would do it. I just talked to a guy from Norway, and > he's paying 10-12 dollars per gallon. Drives a Jeep Cherokee over there. But > not too much! Has a pretty good life over there too I might add. Teaches > collage. Just bought a 40 acre Island off the coast to homestead for his > family. Pay a bit more in taxes than I do, but I was surprised that it was not > more. > Last, please don't mistake anything I've written for my heartfelt > convictions. But anytime I see someone start foaming at the mouth, it hard not > to poke a little fun. > Don Boyd > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Sun Feb 8 11:32:15 2009 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (Peter Harrison) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:32:15 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Slowboy Schematic Message-ID: WOW Took it to Office Depot and had it laminated to 18 x 24 - (old eyes don't you know) and it is a thing of beauty. Even blowing it up to 6400, there is NO sign of pixellation. THANKS THANKS for all your effort. Peter From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Sun Feb 8 12:58:06 2009 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (Peter Harrison) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:58:06 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] OT - Fires in OZ Message-ID: To all of our Aussie friends - coming from California where fires are almost a season unto themselves, ( i.e. summer, fire season, winter (as much as it exists here in socal) I am connected to the wildfires currently raging downunder. I hope that all of our roadster friends are safe as well as their nearest and dearest. All the best Peter From gsglasgow at comcast.net Sun Feb 8 13:46:06 2009 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:46:06 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] OT - Fires in OZ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002f01c98a2e$44d49140$ce7db3c0$@net> Amen to that! Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Harrison Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:58 AM To: datsun Subject: [Roadsters] OT - Fires in OZ To all of our Aussie friends - coming from California where fires are almost a season unto themselves, ( i.e. summer, fire season, winter (as much as it exists here in socal) I am connected to the wildfires currently raging downunder. I hope that all of our roadster friends are safe as well as their nearest and dearest. All the best Peter From ruth at earlydatsun.com Sun Feb 8 14:41:51 2009 From: ruth at earlydatsun.com (Ruth) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:41:51 +1000 Subject: [Roadsters] OT - Fires in OZ In-Reply-To: <002f01c98a2e$44d49140$ce7db3c0$@net> References: <002f01c98a2e$44d49140$ce7db3c0$@net> Message-ID: <1535F4BD-0013-47CB-9C57-C3C741A1F655@earlydatsun.com> Thanks guys. An update from me: as of this morning, 108 people confirmed dead. Countless loss of property. I'm in Queensland but my family are from Victoria, and heavily involved in the CFA (Country Fire Authority). My cousin has lost her house, another cousin is in hospital with burns to hands and arms (he's a firey - was sliding down a riverbank to escape a sudden change of direction by the fires and slipped - grabbed a bush to steady himself but it was alight). Thankfully all my relatives are alive, but some friends have been listed as missing. Am up here feeling pretty powerless at the moment, and my parents weren't home this morning at 7am - probably out crewing, but not answering mobile phones either. I'll keep trying. Thanks for your support. We appreciate it. Ruth From fairlady at bigpond.com Sun Feb 8 16:11:05 2009 From: fairlady at bigpond.com (Phill Brook) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:11:05 +1100 Subject: [Roadsters] OT - Fires in OZ In-Reply-To: <1535F4BD-0013-47CB-9C57-C3C741A1F655@earlydatsun.com> References: <002f01c98a2e$44d49140$ce7db3c0$@net> <1535F4BD-0013-47CB-9C57-C3C741A1F655@earlydatsun.com> Message-ID: <644D560F-DCBF-40D8-858D-441393938C80@bigpond.com> The weather events in Australia of the last couple of weeks have set new, and not necessarily desirable, records. Half of Queensland under water (for our American friends the floods cover an area larger than Texas). A record heatwave acros the South. But the magnitude of the fires in Victoria really are horrifying. So many dead, injured and homeless. Even worse, it looks like some of the fires are the result of arson. I, like many roadster owners, have enjoyed driving the roads around the affected areas. We've stopped for brunch or a refreshing drink in towns like Marysvile or Kingslake. Their rustic charms, so close to Melbourne are now gone. When events like this happen I can't help but think of Australian poet Dorothea MacKellar's most famous poem. Phill B The love of field and coppice, Of green and shaded Lanes, Of ordered woods and gardens, Is running in your veins; Strong love of grey-blue distance, Brown streams and soft, dim skies - I know but cannot share it, My love is otherwise. I love a sunburnt country, A land of sweeping plains, Of ragged mountain ranges, Of drought and flooding rains, I love her far horizons, I love her jewel sea, Her beauty and her terror - The wide brown land for me. The tragic ring-barked forests Stark white beneath the moon, The sapphire-misted mountains, The hot gold hush of noon. Green tangle of the brushes Where lithe lianas coil, An orchids deck the tree-tops And ferns the crimson soil. Core of my heart, my country! Her pitiless blue sky, When sick at heart around us We see the cattle die - But then the grey clouds gather And we can bless again The drumming of an army, The steady, soaking rain. Core of my heart, my country! Land of the Rainbow Gold, For flood and fire and famine, She pays us back threefold; Over the thirsty paddocks, Watch, after many days, The filmy veil of greenness That thickens as we gaze. An opal-hearted country, A wilful, lavish land - All you who have not loved her, You will not understand - Though Earth holds many splendours, Wherever I may die, I know to what brown Country My homing thoughts will fly. From fj20spl311 at yahoo.com Sun Feb 8 17:49:00 2009 From: fj20spl311 at yahoo.com (philip erickson) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:49:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Slowboy Schematic Message-ID: <907593.5900.qm@web32005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message: 4 Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:32:15 -0800 From: "Peter Harrison" Subject: [Roadsters] Slowboy Schematic To: "datsun" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" WOW Took it to Office Depot and had it laminated to 18 x 24 - (old eyes don't you know) and it is a thing of beauty. Even blowing it up to 6400, there is NO sign of pixellation. THANKS THANKS for all your effort. Peter In my effort to rewire my project, I printed mine out 54"x36" that's 25 (5x5) 8.5x11s in landscape Taped them together and started making notes...Talk about old eyes...LOL I can not express enough thanks to Slowboy (Jim) for his efforts and a special thanks to Michael Spreadbury for the diagram of the EZ Mini 20 fuse box. Phil From tputland at charter.net Mon Feb 9 05:08:21 2009 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 4:08:21 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] OT thanks Message-ID: <20090209070821.1HZUO.147664.root@mp05> Thanks to everyone who replied to my inquiry into on demand hot water heaters. I have tried to reply individually to say thanks but don't want to miss any one. I have loads of reading to do now! If any one is interested in a summary, of sorts, let me know. I have a couple requests so I will compile it all into word and can forward an attachment as needed. Thanks again to everyone who replied! Now to get my fed tax money and place an order!!! Tim From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Mon Feb 9 07:17:03 2009 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:17:03 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Got a spare inside rear view mirror base? (for hi windshield) Message-ID: So, in my "clever" quest to get rid of a large blindspot, I went about trying to mount the interior mirror more in the plane of the windshield frome, instead of hanging below it. Took the mirror arm and the base to the welding instr. at the local junior college, but made the mistake of talking to the "junior" instructor, who instead of telling me that cast potmetal can't be welded, he tried it and vaporized the first base. So then Chris Breyer saved me with a spare, THANKS Chris! So I took that one and bored a horizontal hole, 1/2" press-it, for the shaft on a PepBoyz mirror, which worked really well, except I had to use my car in the rain today, and when I went to put on the top (only done that twice in 8 years!) I seem to have created a jig-lock, in which the mirror is so close to the base (which is also the center top holdown) that the clamp cannot latch or swing to close. I managed to get it clasped by unscrewing the base, clasping the latch, then screwing it back in, but we all know how prone to stripping those captive nuts are, so I gotta start over.... Again. Anyone have a spare mirror / center latch base for a hi windshield car they want to part with? Fergus O 69 2000 (it is no great surprise to know that my coworkers see me prowling around looking at scraps in the machine shop and say "Uh-oh, Fergy's having contraptions again.") From jtorres67 at wildblue.net Mon Feb 9 17:55:50 2009 From: jtorres67 at wildblue.net (JEFF TORRES) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 16:55:50 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2009 Message-ID: Hey Everyone!! The Solvang Datsun Roadster Classic 2009 web page is up and running. You can access it by going to WWW.SOLVANGSHOW.COM . Get your regsitrations in and your reservations made..It will be here before ya' know it. Jeff T. From fairlady66 at gmail.com Mon Feb 9 18:07:43 2009 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:07:43 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang Roadster Classic - Registration is open! Message-ID: Message from Jeff Torres: Time to get your registration for the Solvang Roadster Classic sent in. Click the website below and then get your hotel booked. Some of us already have our rooms booked. Good luck and get the work out, let get 100 cars this year! http://solvangshow.com/ Caravans from a few Southern Califronia locations will be planed. More information on these Caravans in a couple of weeks. if you wish to be part of these caravans and have not received message from SoCalROC email socalroc at gmail.com Cheers, -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. From fairlady66 at gmail.com Mon Feb 9 18:14:36 2009 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:14:36 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang Roadser Classic Registration is now OPEN Message-ID: Sorry of this is a duplicate message. There seemed to be a problem with my server when I sent the last one out. Message from Jeff Torres: Time to get your registration for the Solvang Roadster Classic sent in. Click the website below and then get your hotel booked. Some of us already have our rooms booked. Good luck and get the work out, let get 100 cars this year! http://solvangshow.com/ Caravans from a few Southern Califronia locations will be planed. More information on these Caravans in a couple of weeks. If you wish to be part of these caravans and have not received message from SoCalROC email so*calroc at gmail.com * for more information ** Cheers, -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Mon Feb 9 21:38:06 2009 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (Peter Harrison) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 20:38:06 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Ohms and Coils Message-ID: So four coils 0 Ohmage between + and - Lucas between center post and +_ = 6.9 Heavy Duty Coil - one I had lying around 8.7 for same Coil Linda lent me (12 v for EI applications) 11.5 Coil I bought from Dean 9 Ballast resistor I took from 510 - 0 ohmage between ends ( what is it supposed to be?) What do these measurements mean and do they give any clue as to which one would be safe?? Any comments would be welcome Thx Peter From graemes at internode.on.net Mon Feb 9 22:37:09 2009 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:07:09 +1030 Subject: [Roadsters] Ohms and Coils In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <86C7CF8603C744B6B7151852C4470EC3@desktop> Ballast resistor usually 1.6-2ohms. Coil for use with above usually 1.5-1.7ohms, Primary, 9.5-11.6ohms Secondary. My guess is that your meter in not sensitive enough. Are you using a Digital Ohmmeter? "So four coils 0 Ohmage between + and - Lucas between center post and +_ = 6.9 Heavy Duty Coil - one I had lying around 8.7 for same Coil Linda lent me (12 v for EI applications) 11.5 Coil I bought from Dean 9 Ballast resistor I took from 510 - 0 ohmage between ends ( what is it supposed to be?) What do these measurements mean and do they give any clue as to which one would be safe?? Any comments would be welcome" From ljordan704 at netscape.net Mon Feb 9 23:25:22 2009 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:25:22 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Ohms and Coils In-Reply-To: <86C7CF8603C744B6B7151852C4470EC3@desktop> References: <86C7CF8603C744B6B7151852C4470EC3@desktop> Message-ID: <8CB595F7CCEFADA-BAC-2038@webmail-me16.sysops.aol.com> I thought the resistor was around 3 ohms? Also, how is that checked? Any corrosion on the resistor, Peter? Linda -----Original Message----- From: Graeme To: 'Peter Harrison' ; 'datsun' Sent: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 9:37 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ohms and Coils Ballast resistor usually 1.6-2ohms. Coil for use with above usually 1.5-1.7ohms, Primary, 9.5-11.6ohms Secondary. My guess is that your meter in not sensitive enough. Are you using a Digital Ohmmeter? "So four coils 0 Ohmage between + and - Lucas between center post and +_ = 6.9 Heavy Duty Coil - one I had lying around 8.7 for same Coil Linda lent me (12 v for EI applications) 11.5 Coil I bought from Dean 9 Ballast resistor I took from 510 - 0 ohmage between ends ( what is it supposed to be?) What do these measurements mean and do they give any clue as to which one would be safe?? Any comments would be welcome" You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ctd0046 at lausd.net Wed Feb 11 14:09:10 2009 From: ctd0046 at lausd.net (Duong, Cody) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:09:10 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] looking for a car to fall in love again References: Message-ID: <48C256626C939748B2699FFD115976498BC40E@MAILBE-LA14.lausd.net> calling all datsun roadster owners. i sold my 1966 roadster serveral years ago and it was a big mistake. oh how much i miss it. i am currently looking for 1966 or 1977 datsun with engine swap of sr20de or better. thanks a bunch From gogineni.alvin at gene.com Wed Feb 11 14:57:09 2009 From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:57:09 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] looking for a car to fall in love again In-Reply-To: <48C256626C939748B2699FFD115976498BC40E@MAILBE-LA14.lausd.net> References: <48C256626C939748B2699FFD115976498BC40E@MAILBE-LA14.lausd.net> Message-ID: <9FBDC711-BB73-4DC4-9ABB-64D1130C478C@gene.com> Contact Michael Spreadbury at Spriso Motorsports: michaelspreadbury at comcast.net Check out this beautiful '66 with an SR20 drivetrain that he built: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2229915880103240641zXTdhR On Feb 11, 2009, at 1:09 PM, Duong, Cody wrote: > calling all datsun roadster owners. > > i sold my 1966 roadster serveral years ago and it was a big > mistake. oh > how much i miss it. i am currently looking for 1966 or 1977 datsun > with > engine swap of sr20de or better. thanks a bunch > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gogineni.alvin at gene.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From slowboy at cox.net Wed Feb 11 16:17:59 2009 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:17:59 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] looking for a car to fall in love again In-Reply-To: <9FBDC711-BB73-4DC4-9ABB-64D1130C478C@gene.com> References: <48C256626C939748B2699FFD115976498BC40E@MAILBE-LA14.lausd.net> <9FBDC711-BB73-4DC4-9ABB-64D1130C478C@gene.com> Message-ID: <5EC3F0B31B624CEA895B8AD747925CDF@m7170n> Yep, another fine example of Michael's engine bay clean-up service. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alvin Gogineni Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 2:57 PM To: Duong, Cody Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] looking for a car to fall in love again Contact Michael Spreadbury at Spriso Motorsports: michaelspreadbury at comcast.net Check out this beautiful '66 with an SR20 drivetrain that he built: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2229915880103240641zXTdhR On Feb 11, 2009, at 1:09 PM, Duong, Cody wrote: > calling all datsun roadster owners. > > i sold my 1966 roadster serveral years ago and it was a big > mistake. oh > how much i miss it. i am currently looking for 1966 or 1977 datsun > with > engine swap of sr20de or better. thanks a bunch > ________________________________________ From haabu at sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 11 17:07:38 2009 From: haabu at sbcglobal.net (Herb Petty) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:07:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] re Message-ID: <949560.64302.qm@web81803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It's pretty tough to find anything that Michael does wrong. He gives a new meaning to craftmanship, Not only that, he;s friendly ta boot !! Herb Petty ol Yellow "66" Modesto, Ca. From joek at camberconstruction.com Thu Feb 12 16:44:55 2009 From: joek at camberconstruction.com (Joe Kinstle) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:44:55 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Funnel head gasket leak test? Message-ID: <310686E758914E5DBC9707335844CD85@lapjoek> Sorry for the off topic post here, but I thought some here may have heard about this test. I'm selling my wife's car, and a potential buyer took it to their mechanic. He put a funnel in the radiator, filled it half up with water and saw bubbles while the car was running, and thereby determined that the car has a bad head gasket. I've never heard this one before. The car runs great, and while it did blow a hose 2 years ago, it has shown no signs since then of any issues, no loss of coolant, no overheating. Fact or fiction? Not that it'd matter, but the car is a Mazda MX3 4cyl. Thanks for any responses, please reply off list. Joe Kinstle '68 2L BLK SRL From pat at hornesystemstx.com Thu Feb 12 17:39:27 2009 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:39:27 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Funnel head gasket leak test? In-Reply-To: <310686E758914E5DBC9707335844CD85@lapjoek> References: <310686E758914E5DBC9707335844CD85@lapjoek> Message-ID: <4994C13F.1010405@hornesystemstx.com> Joe, I've heard of looking for bubbles in the coolant, and I used it once to reject the purchase of a car. As to whether it is a real indicator of a blown head gasket or not, I do not know for sure. I assume the funnel is to get the water level up to where you can see the water surface, rather than being down in the top tank where it isn't as easy to see. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Joe Kinstle, On 2/12/2009 5:44 PM: > Sorry for the off topic post here, but I thought some here may have heard > about this test. I'm selling my wife's car, and a potential buyer took it > to their mechanic. He put a funnel in the radiator, filled it half up with > water and saw bubbles while the car was running, and thereby determined that > the car has a bad head gasket. I've never heard this one before. The car > runs great, and while it did blow a hose 2 years ago, it has shown no signs > since then of any issues, no loss of coolant, no overheating. Fact or > fiction? Not that it'd matter, but the car is a Mazda MX3 4cyl. Thanks for > any responses, please reply off list. > > > > Joe Kinstle > > '68 2L > > BLK SRL > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.234 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1947 - Release Date: 02/10/09 17:44:00 > > -- --- Pat Horne 512.797.7501 Owner, Horne Systems pat at hornesystemstx.com 5026 FM 2001 Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 --We support Habitat for Humanity, a hand UP, not a hand OUT-- From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com Thu Feb 12 20:52:26 2009 From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:52:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Funnel head gasket leak test? In-Reply-To: <310686E758914E5DBC9707335844CD85@lapjoek> Message-ID: <348815.17418.qm@web53503.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I have heard of it...and done it a time or two...or three. If I understand it correctly, It will blow bubbles if the gasket is blown between an exhaust valve and the water jacket. If the gasket is blown between an oil passage and the water jacket, you get chocolate milk on the dip stick. Patti --- On Thu, 2/12/09, Joe Kinstle wrote: From: Joe Kinstle Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Funnel head gasket leak test? To: "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 3:44 PM Sorry for the off topic post here, but I thought some here may have heard about this test. I'm selling my wife's car, and a potential buyer took it to their mechanic. He put a funnel in the radiator, filled it half up with water and saw bubbles while the car was running, and thereby determined that the car has a bad head gasket. I've never heard this one before. The car runs great, and while it did blow a hose 2 years ago, it has shown no signs since then of any issues, no loss of coolant, no overheating. Fact or fiction? Not that it'd matter, but the car is a Mazda MX3 4cyl. Thanks for any responses, please reply off list. Joe Kinstle '68 2L BLK SRL You are subscribed as fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From chalsted at comcast.net Fri Feb 13 03:44:44 2009 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:44:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] OT- untitled Okinawa 70 240Z for sale also #3 1500 Message-ID: <1798399568.6261234521884883.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I've decided to sell the Okinawa 240, too many cars... I have the original bill of sale with the Japanese tax stamp on it. original owner spent around $12k just to store this car the past decade... first $5k owns it, not a dicker price. worth every bit of that and more.B also will be cutting loose of SPL310-00003 in the near future, it's pretty close to real nice now. painted the engine wednesday, trying to decide whether to go with th.e original transmission or stick a 5spd in there...Nissan corporate paid $25k unrestored for serial number 2 a while back. have a 35k original mile 66 1600 with excellent body, new Konis, detailed engine...$3500 on that one and you finish it. contact me offlist if interested. Craig From 9laser3 at bright.net Fri Feb 13 04:20:38 2009 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 06:20:38 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Funnel head gasket leak test? In-Reply-To: <4994C13F.1010405@hornesystemstx.com> References: <310686E758914E5DBC9707335844CD85@lapjoek> <4994C13F.1010405@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: <000b01c98dcd$1bbdb780$53392680$@net> Could just be an aging water pump impeller causing cavatation? Paul -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pat Horne Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 7:39 PM To: Joe Kinstle Cc: 'Datsun Roadster List' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Funnel head gasket leak test? Joe, I've heard of looking for bubbles in the coolant, and I used it once to reject the purchase of a car. As to whether it is a real indicator of a blown head gasket or not, I do not know for sure. I assume the funnel is to get the water level up to where you can see the water surface, rather than being down in the top tank where it isn't as easy to see. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Joe Kinstle, On 2/12/2009 5:44 PM: > Sorry for the off topic post here, but I thought some here may have heard > about this test. I'm selling my wife's car, and a potential buyer took it > to their mechanic. He put a funnel in the radiator, filled it half up with > water and saw bubbles while the car was running, and thereby determined that > the car has a bad head gasket. I've never heard this one before. The car > runs great, and while it did blow a hose 2 years ago, it has shown no signs > since then of any issues, no loss of coolant, no overheating. Fact or > fiction? Not that it'd matter, but the car is a Mazda MX3 4cyl. Thanks for > any responses, please reply off list. > > > > Joe Kinstle > > '68 2L > > BLK SRL > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.234 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1947 - Release Date: 02/10/09 17:44:00 > > -- --- Pat Horne 512.797.7501 Owner, Horne Systems pat at hornesystemstx.com 5026 FM 2001 Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 --We support Habitat for Humanity, a hand UP, not a hand OUT-- You are subscribed as 9laser3 at bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From eddietude at socal.rr.com Fri Feb 13 10:36:38 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 09:36:38 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Funnel head gasket leak test? In-Reply-To: <000b01c98dcd$1bbdb780$53392680$@net> References: <310686E758914E5DBC9707335844CD85@lapjoek> <4994C13F.1010405@hornesystemstx.com> <000b01c98dcd$1bbdb780$53392680$@net> Message-ID: <4995AFA6.4060206@socal.rr.com> POTENTIAL Signs of a blown head gasket: 1) Air bubbles in the coolant 2) Coolant in the oil. (looks milky due to the engine parts "stirring" up the mix)) 3) Oil in the coolant. 4) Car overheats (due to coolant level dropping) 5) white exhaust (water vapors in the exhaust smoke) 6) coolant level drops over time and needs to be refilled, but there are no external leaks. Bubbles alone in the radiator do NOT mean it has a blown head gasket, but that it COULD have one. Eddie Paul wrote: > Could just be an aging water pump impeller causing cavatation? > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pat Horne > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 7:39 PM > To: Joe Kinstle > Cc: 'Datsun Roadster List' > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Funnel head gasket leak test? > > Joe, > > I've heard of looking for bubbles in the coolant, and I used it once to > reject the purchase of a car. As to whether it is a real indicator of a > blown head gasket or not, I do not know for sure. I assume the funnel is > to get the water level up to where you can see the water surface, rather > than being down in the top tank where it isn't as easy to see. > > Peace, > Pat > > Thusly spake Joe Kinstle, On 2/12/2009 5:44 PM: > >> Sorry for the off topic post here, but I thought some here may have heard >> about this test. I'm selling my wife's car, and a potential buyer took it >> to their mechanic. He put a funnel in the radiator, filled it half up >> > with > >> water and saw bubbles while the car was running, and thereby determined >> > that > >> the car has a bad head gasket. I've never heard this one before. The car >> runs great, and while it did blow a hose 2 years ago, it has shown no >> > signs > >> since then of any issues, no loss of coolant, no overheating. Fact or >> fiction? Not that it'd matter, but the car is a Mazda MX3 4cyl. Thanks >> > for > >> any responses, please reply off list. >> >> >> >> Joe Kinstle >> >> '68 2L >> >> BLK SRL >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as pat at hornesystemstx.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.234 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1947 - Release Date: 02/10/09 >> > 17:44:00 From sandhoff at csus.edu Fri Feb 13 12:06:20 2009 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:06:20 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Checking head gasket (was:Funnel head gasket leak test?) In-Reply-To: <4995AFA6.4060206@socal.rr.com> References: <000b01c98dcd$1bbdb780$53392680$@net> Message-ID: <4995542C.25566.5BE417F@localhost> > POTENTIAL Signs of a blown head gasket: Quick check: sniff for hydrocarbons from the radiator. Ask the local smog check place to use their exhaust gas analyzer to sniff over the open radiator cap (the service shop that started this thread probably has one). Or you can buy chemical test kits that you suck air thru a vial of chemicals and see if it changes color. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From aultgc at att.net Fri Feb 13 12:41:25 2009 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:41:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Checking head gasket (was:Funnel head gasket leak test?) References: <000b01c98dcd$1bbdb780$53392680$@net> <4995542C.25566.5BE417F@localhost> Message-ID: <245485.28167.qm@web180111.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> John, I'll bet the service shop which started this thread doesn't have an analyzer, or they would have used it rather than their funnel test. Or, they may have one, but the tech evaluating the car isn't sophisticated to know what to do with one. Gary ________________________________ From: John F Sandhoff To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:06:20 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Checking head gasket (was:Funnel head gasket leak test?) > POTENTIAL Signs of a blown head gasket: Quick check: sniff for hydrocarbons from the radiator. Ask the local smog check place to use their exhaust gas analyzer to sniff over the open radiator cap (the service shop that started this thread probably has one). Or you can buy chemical test kits that you suck air thru a vial of chemicals and see if it changes color. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ronnie.day at gmail.com Fri Feb 13 13:25:13 2009 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:25:13 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Checking head gasket (was:Funnel head gasket leak test?) In-Reply-To: <245485.28167.qm@web180111.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <000b01c98dcd$1bbdb780$53392680$@net> <4995542C.25566.5BE417F@localhost> <245485.28167.qm@web180111.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2faaebf80902131225o59b9fa13mceb190e024ab0cab@mail.gmail.com> > Gary Ault > I'll bet the service shop which started this thread doesn't have an > analyzer, or they would have used it rather than their funnel test. Or, they > may have one, but the tech evaluating the car isn't sophisticated to know what > to do with one. -- I wonder if they thought about running a compression check? ANY shop worth a sign above the door should at least have a compression gauge. I'd expect that test ands an number of others to be included in any pre-sale inspection. There are other tests, too, but if the head gasket's blown you'll have a low cylinder or two if it's blown between adjacent cylinders. Ron From daveandlindab at comcast.net Fri Feb 13 15:25:07 2009 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:25:07 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Funnel head gasket leak test? In-Reply-To: <4995AFA6.4060206@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: I'm with Eddie (and others)on this one. Bubbles mean that there are bubbles, no idea where from. A head gasket leak MAY produce bubbles, but bubbles don't mean the head gasket leaks. Any competent professional mechanic has a cooling system pressure tester...Even I have one, and I'm competent :) Diagnostics 101 You put it in place of the radiator cap, pump it up to 17 PSI, and if the pressure drops, take out the spark plugs, remove the oil cap and find the coolant leak. If it's the head gasket or a cracked head, the coolant will come out somewhere, intake, exhaust oil pan or combustion chamber(flow out the sparkplug hole). If it holds the pressure, no head gasket leak, at least to the cooling system. Next step, put 150psi of air into the cylinders one at a time at TDC, THEN you look for bubbles in the radiator, then listen for air hissing from the oil cap or hiss from intake or exhaust. Pretty straight forward stuff Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: Eddie [mailto:eddietude at socal.rr.com] POTENTIAL Signs of a blown head gasket: 1) Air bubbles in the coolant 2) Coolant in the oil. (looks milky due to the engine parts "stirring" up the mix)) 3) Oil in the coolant. 4) Car overheats (due to coolant level dropping) 5) white exhaust (water vapors in the exhaust smoke) 6) coolant level drops over time and needs to be refilled, but there are no external leaks. Bubbles alone in the radiator do NOT mean it has a blown head gasket, but that it COULD have one. Eddie From pat at hornesystemstx.com Fri Feb 13 17:15:09 2009 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:15:09 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Jewelry manufacturer Message-ID: <49960D0D.7000903@hornesystemstx.com> Due to a computer crash I lost the address of a jeweler I was talking to about making a copy of a ring I have. Please contact me off list. Datsun content: My roadster is still patiently waiting for me to rebuild the engine! Thanks, Pat -- --- Pat Horne 512.797.7501 Owner, Horne Systems pat at hornesystemstx.com 5026 FM 2001 Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 --We support Habitat for Humanity, a hand UP, not a hand OUT-- From aultgc at att.net Fri Feb 13 18:36:18 2009 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 19:36:18 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Funnel head gasket leak test? References: Message-ID: <716BE3D949C8490E84A1FCEF64F82C95@gaxp1> The discussions on this topic provide a good tutorial on checking for head gasket leaks. But, if you're lazy and just don't give a hoot, you put a funnel in the radiator and tell the customer the car's no good. One can never go wrong saying something is no good, but, if one says something is all right and it turns out not to be so... Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave" To: "'Datsun Roadster List'" Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Funnel head gasket leak test? > I'm with Eddie (and others)on this one. Bubbles mean that there are > bubbles, no idea where from. A head gasket leak MAY produce bubbles, but > bubbles don't mean the head gasket leaks. > > Any competent professional mechanic has a cooling system pressure > tester...Even I have one, and I'm competent :) > > Diagnostics 101 > You put it in place of the radiator cap, pump it up to 17 PSI, and if the > pressure drops, take out the spark plugs, remove the oil cap and find the > coolant leak. If it's the head gasket or a cracked head, the coolant will > come out somewhere, intake, exhaust oil pan or combustion chamber(flow out > the sparkplug hole). > > If it holds the pressure, no head gasket leak, at least to the cooling > system. > Next step, put 150psi of air into the cylinders one at a time at TDC, THEN > you look for bubbles in the radiator, then listen for air hissing from > the > oil cap or hiss from intake or exhaust. > Pretty straight forward stuff > > Dave Brisco > ECR > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eddie [mailto:eddietude at socal.rr.com] > POTENTIAL Signs of a blown head gasket: > > 1) Air bubbles in the coolant > 2) Coolant in the oil. (looks milky due to the engine parts "stirring" > up the mix)) > 3) Oil in the coolant. > > 4) Car overheats (due to coolant level dropping) > 5) white exhaust (water vapors in the exhaust smoke) > 6) coolant level drops over time and needs to be refilled, but there are > no external leaks. > > Bubbles alone in the radiator do NOT mean it has a blown head gasket, > but that it COULD have one. > > Eddie > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Sat Feb 14 19:46:46 2009 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (Peter Harrison) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:46:46 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Eliza Now Va Message-ID: Put in coil I bought from Dean, borrowed a 1.6 ohm resistor from Linda, substituted crap wiring done by PO for crap wiring of my own design and va va va va voom. Drove about 5 miles - resistor warm, coil warm - will hazard a more extended journey tmw. Still baffled about the different resistance readings from the coils as per my earlier posting. >From my viewpoint - Deans has a 9 resistance between post and +- the Lucas has a 6.9 AND the Lucas worked for 10+K miles It would seem that 9 is better than 6.9 from an ohmage perspective - perhaps someone could explain. Also in following the diagram i get even more confused So the B/W wire goes from the ignition switch through the ballast and hooks up with the y/w and then goes into the + side of the coil. Why does it do that and what effect does it have. And what is the point? I will never be an electrical guru - but I would like to get a bit more knowledgeable Peter From sandhoff at csus.edu Sat Feb 14 20:14:13 2009 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:14:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Eliza Now Va In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Speaking of ignition wiring, it was written: > So the B/W wire goes from the ignition switch through the ballast and > hooks up with the y/w and then goes into the + side of the coil. Why > does it do that and what effect does it have. And what is the point? Easier starting. The 'run' position of the ignition switch provides voltage thru the ballast resistor (B/W). The coil then 'sees' about 6 volts during normal operation. More importantly, this also limits current thru the points (without the ballast resistor you'll likely burn out the points). The 'start' position of the ignition switch not only provides voltage to the starter solenoid, it also provides voltage directly to the coil (Y/W). This full voltage provides for a more powerful spark to help ignite a cold fuel mix (and halps compensate for the battery voltage dipping during the start cycle - the load of the starter will pull the voltage down to 10 or fewer volts. That's why the lights dim when you're cranking). BTW, early Roadsters don't have this bypass circuit. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sat Feb 14 20:47:30 2009 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:47:30 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Eliza Now Va In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CB5D374310367C-970-62D@FWM-D41.sysops.aol.com> However Peter has the Pertronix installed, so instead of protecting the points, the ballast resistor protects the Pertronix from burning out, right? It is a 1.6ohms resister. And you can tell that everything is doing it's job by the coil not getting HOT but just WARM....and also using a voltmeter for a specific reading? TIA Linda -----Original Message----- From: John F Sandhoff To: Peter Harrison Cc: datsun Sent: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 7:14 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Eliza Now Va Speaking of ignition wiring, it was written:? > So the B/W wire goes from the ignition switch through the ballast and? > hooks up with the y/w and then goes into the + side of the coil. Why? > does it do that and what effect does it have. And what is the point?? ? Easier starting.? The 'run' position of the ignition switch provides voltage thru the? ballast resistor (B/W). The coil then 'sees' about 6 volts during normal? operation. More importantly, this also limits current thru the points? (without the ballast resistor you'll likely burn out the points).? ? The 'start' position of the ignition switch not only provides voltage? to the starter solenoid, it also provides voltage directly to the coil? (Y/W). This full voltage provides for a more powerful spark to help? ignite a cold fuel mix (and halps compensate for the battery voltage? dipping during the start cycle - the load of the starter will pull the? voltage down to 10 or fewer volts. That's why the lights dim when you're? cranking).? ? BTW, early Roadsters don't have this bypass circuit.? ? -- John? ? John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA? ________________________________________? Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? ? You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net? ? Datsun-roadsters mailing list? ? http://www.team.net/archive? ? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters? From ronnie.day at gmail.com Sat Feb 14 21:34:43 2009 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:34:43 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Eliza Now Va In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2faaebf80902142034j599a1efen426d639ee8a1ad29@mail.gmail.com> You might also want to spend some time reading through the info at or other I-Net sites. HP Books has a book called "Automotive Electrical Handbook" and Haynes publishes an "Automotive Electrical Manual" that are both very good. Combine one or both of these with the excellent wiring diagrams (especially the color ones) on 311s.org and you should be able to trace things out. I had one blown up to 24 x 36 and had it laminated. I ha color 11 x 17 copies done for $2 at Staples, but the 24 x 36 was $20. Still worth, IMO, but you could get away with the 11 x 17 size if your eyes are good (mine aren't so hot) and/or you use some sort of magnifier. One final bit of advice. When troubleshooting and/or tracing circuits, start at one end on the circuit or the other and follow it to the other end. Watch for any color changes. If there are any they usually occur at junction or molded connectors. Ron >> Peter >> >> So the B/W wire goes from the ignition switch through the ballast and >> hooks up with the y/w and then goes into the + side of the coil. Why >> does it do that and what effect does it have. And what is the point? > > John > Easier starting. > The 'run' position of the ignition switch provides voltage thru the > ballast resistor (B/W). The coil then 'sees' about 6 volts during normal > operation. More importantly, this also limits current thru the points > (without the ballast resistor you'll likely burn out the points). > > The 'start' position of the ignition switch not only provides voltage > to the starter solenoid, it also provides voltage directly to the coil > (Y/W). This full voltage provides for a more powerful spark to help > ignite a cold fuel mix (and halps compensate for the battery voltage > dipping during the start cycle - the load of the starter will pull the > voltage down to 10 or fewer volts. That's why the lights dim when you're > cranking). > > BTW, early Roadsters don't have this bypass circuit. From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Sun Feb 15 13:07:46 2009 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (Peter Harrison) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 12:07:46 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] GPS & Intercom Message-ID: Anyone have any suggestions for a reasonably priced GPS and also an Intercom. Peter Eliza LIVES!!!!! From boakes at gmail.com Sun Feb 15 15:02:35 2009 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:02:35 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Suspension questions - how far do I go Message-ID: <3ad057d60902151402p7cc77696la35fddb502f83db8@mail.gmail.com> Yep, I'm afraid it's one step forward and two steps back again... Was going to just put the brakes on and thought, well, while I'm hear, I'll clean up the suspension a little bit... http://picasaweb.google.com/boakes/RoadsterSuspension# I have new ball joints for the bottom (see pictures), but not for the top, or are those both called ball joints? Anyway, while I'm down this far, do I need to replace the top? If so, how much are those?? Also, replace the shock/strut while I'm there??? Have to stop doing this if I plan to get it on the road this spring. thanks -Bill '68 SRL311 Solex From twobeaners at earthlink.net Sun Feb 15 15:49:53 2009 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:49:53 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Suspension questions - how far do I go References: <3ad057d60902151402p7cc77696la35fddb502f83db8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <111201c98fbf$b86322c0$6400a8c0@LAP120> Just my opinion, but looking at your pics, you're passed the hard stuff and very nearly at a complete suspension rebuild. Check for excessive play on your upper and lower A-arm spindles for bushing wear. If they're okay, put some new upper ball joints in. Shocks aren't much, but if you replace them with new ones that won't insert through the hole in the bottom A-arm plate, now is the time to install them. It can get expensive but you'll feel really good with a completely rebuilt front end, and with proper maintenance, should last 50k - 100k miles? Just my opinion. Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Oakes" To: Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 4:02 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Suspension questions - how far do I go > Yep, I'm afraid it's one step forward and two steps back again... > > Was going to just put the brakes on and thought, well, while I'm hear, > I'll clean up the suspension a little bit... > > http://picasaweb.google.com/boakes/RoadsterSuspension# > > I have new ball joints for the bottom (see pictures), but not for the > top, or are those both called ball joints? > > Anyway, while I'm down this far, do I need to replace the top? If so, > how much are those?? Also, replace the shock/strut while I'm there??? > > Have to stop doing this if I plan to get it on the road this spring. > > thanks > -Bill > > '68 SRL311 Solex > ________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1953 - Release Date: 02/14/09 18:01:00 From chalsted at comcast.net Mon Feb 16 06:02:27 2009 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:02:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] 1500 roadster transmission choice opinions requested In-Reply-To: <1239483147.995211234789344988.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1307476571.995231234789347913.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I'm getting ready to put a drivetrain back into the #3 1500, thought I'd seek input from the list at large on choice of transmission. I'll be looking to sell the car this year so value might be a consideration... pros and cons of using original transmission set up for long snout starter, aB 4 spd 1600 trans, or a 2000 5spd. thoughts? I have all 3 transmissions.B Thanks- Craig From barterdude at comcast.net Mon Feb 16 06:06:08 2009 From: barterdude at comcast.net (barterdude) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 06:06:08 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1500 roadster transmission choice opinions requested In-Reply-To: <1307476571.995231234789347913.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1239483147.995211234789344988.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1307476571.995231234789347913.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <6D8A947FE07B4035B4EFFC209A453C0C@XPLaptop> Other than this as #3 is a later production car, Nissan started at #75 in '63, I would still suggest putting the original transmission in the car. There were only 3148 1500 produced and few left on the road. Gary Lasater founding member www.wycroc.org '63 SPL310-300161C '63 SPL310-300289B '64 SPL310-001289 '69 SRL311-12536 '70 SPL311-28169 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of chalsted at comcast.net Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 6:02 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] 1500 roadster transmission choice opinions requested I'm getting ready to put a drivetrain back into the #3 1500, thought I'd seek input from the list at large on choice of transmission. I'll be looking to sell the car this year so value might be a consideration... pros and cons of using original transmission set up for long snout starter, aB 4 spd 1600 trans, or a 2000 5spd. thoughts? I have all 3 transmissions.B Thanks- Craig Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1948 - Release Date: 02/12/09 07:20:00 From lars.tungen at abaris.no Mon Feb 16 06:11:01 2009 From: lars.tungen at abaris.no (Lars Tungen) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:11:01 +0100 Subject: [Roadsters] 1500 roadster transmission choice opinions requested In-Reply-To: <1307476571.995231234789347913.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1239483147.995211234789344988.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1307476571.995231234789347913.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <039901c99038$09369470$1ba3bd50$@tungen@abaris.no> Keep it original and use the matching transmission. A 5-speed would make the car much less valuable in my eyes. And a 4 speed makes it more fun to drive. Thanks, Lars Tungen From chalsted at comcast.net Mon Feb 16 06:53:34 2009 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:53:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] 1500 roadster transmission choice opinions requested In-Reply-To: <313195633.1011871234791972278.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1222078221.1016051234792414393.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Hi Gary and all, I do know when the car was built in the production run, around the same time as #2 which Nissan bought unrestored for $25k I heard... B if you're on the earliest 1500 thing again, DatsunDoc probably has the earliest one around other than my prototype which appeared at the New York Auto Show in January 1962 . his I believe is number 76.B I probably will be putting the original transmission back in- I have a few of them and don't know when the heck I'd get to use them anywhere else ;-)B and I painted the engine black, correct for the later part of the 1500 production run and will be putting a 1500 twin carb setup on it.B fwiw, I have #260 available, early matching number single carb car, unrestored but notB smacked up orB much rust B asking $2k Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "barterdude" To: chalsted at comcast.net, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:06:08 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [Roadsters] 1500 roadster transmission choice opinions requested Other than this as #3 is a later production car, Nissan started at #75 in '63, I would still suggest putting the original transmission in the car. There were only 3148 1500 produced and few left on the road. From wrenchorhammer at live.com Mon Feb 16 07:51:36 2009 From: wrenchorhammer at live.com (Jim In Virginia) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:51:36 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] New Old Guy on List Message-ID: Greetings Everyone, This is Jim in Virginia. My new hobby E-mail is this one, wrenchorhammer at live.com. I am the same Jim in Virginia that used to have Nqrithfordatsun at msn.com (which means "not quite right in the head for Datsun") That E-mail got so spammed up that various nigerians were offering me money and various canadians wanted to sell me drugs far more often than Datsun list members wanted to talk about cars. So, Same guy, new mail. Best Regards, Jim Chesapeake, Virginia 67 pushrod 2L 5spd 66 parts roadster 72 510 Project Sportwagon 96 Miata M Daily Driver and varous other cars and boats _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_howitworks_02200 9 From ljordan704 at netscape.net Mon Feb 16 10:26:50 2009 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:26:50 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] New Old Guy on List In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CB5E72E3239CFE-1228-B2E@WEBMAIL-MA18.sysops.aol.com> They will find you here too sometimes so use a good SPAM blocker! How's your car doing? Linda -----Original Message----- From: Jim In Virginia To: Datsun Roadsters send mail Sent: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 6:51 am Subject: [Roadsters] New Old Guy on List Greetings Everyone, This is Jim in Virginia. My new hobby E-mail is this one, wrenchorhammer at live.com. I am the same Jim in Virginia that used to have Nqrithfordatsun at msn.com (which means "not quite right in the head for Datsun") That E-mail got so spammed up that various nigerians were offering me money and various canadians wanted to sell me drugs far more often than Datsun list members wanted to talk about cars. So, Same guy, new mail. Best Regards, Jim Chesapeake, Virginia 67 pushrod 2L 5spd 66 parts roadster 72 510 Project Sportwagon 96 Miata M Daily Driver and varous other cars and boats _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_howitworks_02200 9 You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From eddietude at socal.rr.com Mon Feb 16 11:15:28 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:15:28 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 1500 roadster transmission choice opinions requested In-Reply-To: <6D8A947FE07B4035B4EFFC209A453C0C@XPLaptop> References: <1239483147.995211234789344988.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1307476571.995231234789347913.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <6D8A947FE07B4035B4EFFC209A453C0C@XPLaptop> Message-ID: <4999AD40.7080408@socal.rr.com> If you have an original tranny with matching numbers, this discussion shouldn't even be taking place. It's OBVIOUS which one would be more valuable. Matching numbers are ALWAYS mover valuable, especially to a true collector... Just my 2 cents... Eddie barterdude wrote: > Other than this as #3 is a later production car, Nissan started at #75 in > '63, I would still suggest putting the original transmission in the car. > There were only 3148 1500 produced and few left on the road. > > Gary Lasater > founding member www.wycroc.org > '63 SPL310-300161C > '63 SPL310-300289B > '64 SPL310-001289 > '69 SRL311-12536 > '70 SPL311-28169 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > chalsted at comcast.net > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 6:02 AM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] 1500 roadster transmission choice opinions requested > > I'm getting ready to put a drivetrain back into the #3 1500, thought I'd > seek > input from the list at large on choice of transmission. I'll be looking to > sell the car this year so value might be a consideration... pros and cons of > using original transmission set up for long snout starter, aB 4 spd 1600 > trans, or a 2000 5spd. thoughts? I have all 3 transmissions.B > > Thanks- > > Craig > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1948 - Release Date: 02/12/09 > 07:20:00 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From aultgc at att.net Mon Feb 16 11:38:23 2009 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:38:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] 1500 roadster transmission choice opinions requested References: <1239483147.995211234789344988.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1307476571.995231234789347913.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <6D8A947FE07B4035B4EFFC209A453C0C@XPLaptop> <4999AD40.7080408@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <67369.17089.qm@web180102.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> To the best of my knowledge, transmission numbers cannot be traced to any particular roadster, as engine numbers can. But, if the car were mine, I'd put the original trans in it for its positive effect on overall vehicle value. Gary ________________________________ From: Eddie To: barterdude at comcast.net Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 12:15:28 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1500 roadster transmission choice opinions requested If you have an original tranny with matching numbers, this discussion shouldn't even be taking place. It's OBVIOUS which one would be more valuable. Matching numbers are ALWAYS mover valuable, especially to a true collector... Just my 2 cents... Eddie barterdude wrote: > Other than this as #3 is a later production car, Nissan started at #75 in > '63, I would still suggest putting the original transmission in the car. > There were only 3148 1500 produced and few left on the road. > > Gary Lasater > founding member www.wycroc.org > '63 SPL310-300161C > '63 SPL310-300289B > '64 SPL310-001289 > '69 SRL311-12536 > '70 SPL311-28169 > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > chalsted at comcast.net > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 6:02 AM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] 1500 roadster transmission choice opinions requested > > I'm getting ready to put a drivetrain back into the #3 1500, thought I'd > seek > input from the list at large on choice of transmission. I'll be looking to > sell the car this year so value might be a consideration... pros and cons of > using original transmission set up for long snout starter, aB 4 spd 1600 > trans, or a 2000 5spd. thoughts? I have all 3 transmissions.B > Thanks- > > Craig > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1948 - Release Date: 02/12/09 > 07:20:00 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From daveandlindab at comcast.net Mon Feb 16 12:55:37 2009 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:55:37 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] For sale on Ebay In-Reply-To: <67369.17089.qm@web180102.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <84B04174EDAD454184E841973F0DC5DA@delled48909442> I just reposted my 66 1600 on Ebay. Anyone interested can contact me directly or through the auction. Not a bad car overall, just needs some love. I was distracted and bought a nice shiny one, so this one needs a new home. I could probably be forced into including an EI distributor :) Car is located in New Jersey. Item # 270345370811 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270345370811 Thanks Dave Brisco EastCoastRoadster at comcast.net From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Feb 16 13:37:29 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:37:29 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Too much lead in dirtbikes Message-ID: <021620092037.27834.4999CE89000719E600006CBA2200745672CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Stupidity knows no limits.... Pete From racery at comcast.net Mon Feb 16 13:42:08 2009 From: racery at comcast.net (racery at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:42:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Transmission choices Message-ID: <767287058.853161234816928889.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> My 1600 really struggles with the high 1st in the 2L 5- speed- I can't imagine the 1500 with it! Nice transmission otherwise, though... Toby Seattle From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net Mon Feb 16 20:54:07 2009 From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:54:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] Suspension questions - how far do I go Message-ID: <702048.1234842847448.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I agree with Mike's suggestion about the shocks and A-Arm spindle bushings. If cost is not an issue, I would also replace upper ball joints. If cost is a concern, the upper ball joints tend to wear much less than lower ball joints. A careful check for wear might save you that cost if the uppers are still good. 311s.org or maybe someone on the list can tell us the best way to check for wear on the upper ball joints? -----Original Message----- >From: MH >Sent: Feb 15, 2009 5:49 PM >To: boakes at gmail.com, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Suspension questions - how far do I go > >Just my opinion, but looking at your pics, you're passed the hard stuff and >very nearly at a complete suspension rebuild. Check for excessive play on >your upper and lower A-arm spindles for bushing wear. If they're okay, put >some new upper ball joints in. Shocks aren't much, but if you replace them >with new ones that won't insert through the hole in the bottom A-arm plate, >now is the time to install them. It can get expensive but you'll feel really >good with a completely rebuilt front end, and with proper maintenance, >should last 50k - 100k miles? Just my opinion. >Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-speed > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bill Oakes" >To: >Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 4:02 PM >Subject: [Roadsters] Suspension questions - how far do I go > > >> Yep, I'm afraid it's one step forward and two steps back again... >> >> Was going to just put the brakes on and thought, well, while I'm hear, >> I'll clean up the suspension a little bit... >> >> http://picasaweb.google.com/boakes/RoadsterSuspension# >> >> I have new ball joints for the bottom (see pictures), but not for the >> top, or are those both called ball joints? >> >> Anyway, while I'm down this far, do I need to replace the top? If so, >> how much are those?? Also, replace the shock/strut while I'm there??? >> >> Have to stop doing this if I plan to get it on the road this spring. >> >> thanks >> -Bill >> >> '68 SRL311 Solex >> ________________________________________ > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >---- > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1953 - Release Date: 02/14/09 >18:01:00 >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as hahlbohmd at earthlink.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From tputland at charter.net Tue Feb 17 04:51:15 2009 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 6:51:15 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Too much lead in dirtbikes In-Reply-To: <021620092037.27834.4999CE89000719E600006CBA2200745672CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20090217065115.RUM6J.868148.root@mp15> Thanks for protecting us Uncle Sam. -- Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Pete Peters wrote: ============= Stupidity knows no limits.... Pete You are subscribed as tputland at charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From poontang188 at hotmail.com Tue Feb 17 09:56:01 2009 From: poontang188 at hotmail.com (Scott Sheeler) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:56:01 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] This is a Good Cause Message-ID: For those of you who don't know - this is the family who lost their home from the plane crash of Continental Flight 3407. Please help them get a new home through Extreme Makeovers - Home Edition. The website is below. http://www.petitiononline.com/Hope4You/petition.html Sorry for the intrusion but this seemed like a worthy cause. Over 22,000 signatures to date. Thanks.Scott Sheelerhttp://thedatsunroadsterbook.com/ From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 17 10:21:45 2009 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:21:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] This is a Good Cause In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <193207.4321.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Don't mean to seem callous - but the airline's insurance is the stuckee for this. Putting these folks on TV just makes money for the network. BTW - my employer lost 4 employees in that crash. They weren't from my division, but they were part of the Northrop Grumman family. Gary McCormick San Jose --- On Tue, 2/17/09, Scott Sheeler wrote: From: Scott Sheeler Subject: [Roadsters] This is a Good Cause To: "Roadster List" Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 8:56 AM For those of you who don't know - this is the family who lost their home from the plane crash of Continental Flight 3407. Please help them get a new home through Extreme Makeovers - Home Edition. The website is below. http://www.petitiononline.com/Hope4You/petition.html Sorry for the intrusion but this seemed like a worthy cause. Over 22,000 signatures to date. Thanks.Scott Sheelerhttp://thedatsunroadsterbook.com/ You are subscribed as gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ronnie.day at gmail.com Tue Feb 17 11:02:15 2009 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:02:15 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] U-20 Upper Tensioner Diameter? Message-ID: <2faaebf80902171002j1e269125ja08d12c37cc4a28a@mail.gmail.com> Does anyone know the diameter of the shaft on the upper chain tensioner on a U-20? Looks like I need to come up with some spacers to keep the tensioner pushed out and I'm not sure I can get my calipers in there to measure the shaft without pulling the unit. Figured it couldn't hurt to ask. Thanks -- Ron From alagams at juno.com Tue Feb 17 12:11:58 2009 From: alagams at juno.com (alagams at juno.com) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:11:58 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] U-20 Upper Tensioner Diameter? Message-ID: <20090217.141158.24376.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Just did mine a few months back........if I'm not mistaken it was around .40. I use some 3/8 delrin washer's that I reemed out............worked great ____________________________________________________________ Make order out of chaos with a new filing cabinet. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw12oabbhtN2RNAiO8Flh9O7mohyp pFItbjU9zzyTB9UnOWYe/ From gsglasgow at comcast.net Tue Feb 17 18:39:18 2009 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:39:18 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] U-20 Upper Tensioner Diameter? In-Reply-To: <2faaebf80902171002j1e269125ja08d12c37cc4a28a@mail.gmail.com> References: <2faaebf80902171002j1e269125ja08d12c37cc4a28a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002d01c99169$b76a4b40$263ee1c0$@net> 0.565" on the tensioner shaft. A 9/16" washer has an ID of 0.5625", so probably a little too small. A 15mm washer has an ID of 0.5906 (if you can find one). A 19/32" washer has an ID of 0.5937". Keep in mind that there is only 0.20" clearance between the shaft of the tensioner and the backplate, so you will have to grind off one side of the washer(s) to get them to fit. Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ronnie Day Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:02 AM To: Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] U-20 Upper Tensioner Diameter? Does anyone know the diameter of the shaft on the upper chain tensioner on a U-20? Looks like I need to come up with some spacers to keep the tensioner pushed out and I'm not sure I can get my calipers in there to measure the shaft without pulling the unit. Figured it couldn't hurt to ask. Thanks -- Ron Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From pat at hornesystemstx.com Wed Feb 18 16:18:00 2009 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:18:00 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for a KA24E? Message-ID: <499C9728.1010408@hornesystemstx.com> Just stumbled across a seller on eBay selling long block remanufactured engines. The KA24E is $950 +$150 shipping from Phoenix. I know other parts are needed to get it running, but it seems like a good price to me. I have no connection to the seller, and know nothing about the offered engine. Peace, Pat -- --- Pat Horne 512.797.7501 Owner, Horne Systems pat at hornesystemstx.com 5026 FM 2001 Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 --We support Habitat for Humanity, a hand UP, not a hand OUT-- From oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com Wed Feb 18 22:07:38 2009 From: oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com (Matthew Cox) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:07:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Sighting in Chandler, AZ Message-ID: <159407.95506.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hey all! Saw a red Roadster driving south on the 101 freeway getting off on Chandler Boulevard at about 3:00 Monday afternoon. License plate was some variation of the word "roadster," like "roadstr" or something like that. Nice car, zipping through traffic. First one I've ever seen driving in Phoenix. I would have chased them down, but my friend was driving and he couldn't care less about such things. Lame. Anyone on the list? Matthew... From Walter.Peterson at cox.net Wed Feb 18 23:33:04 2009 From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter Peterson) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:33:04 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Sighting in Chandler, AZ In-Reply-To: <159407.95506.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <159407.95506.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000501c9925b$ebd9ab80$c38d0280$@Peterson@cox.net> If you ever catch up with it, I'll bet it was once a Santa Barbara/ Goleta car. There was a Red Roadster here with a License plate "ROAD STR" that was owned by an engineer that worked at Hughes Aircraft. Perhaps he moved out to an Arizona facility before Hughes sold off everything. Walter Peterson Goleta Ca, 93117 Street driven race motor 2000 3-Main(R) Solexes,cam etc. 5-Speed & LSD. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Cox Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:08 PM To: roadster list Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Sighting in Chandler, AZ Hey all! Saw a red Roadster driving south on the 101 freeway getting off on Chandler Boulevard at about 3:00 Monday afternoon. License plate was some variation of the word "roadster," like "roadstr" or something like that. Nice car, zipping through traffic. First one I've ever seen driving in Phoenix. I would have chased them down, but my friend was driving and he couldn't care less about such things. Lame. Anyone on the list? Matthew... You are subscribed as walter.peterson at cox.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gogineni.alvin at gene.com Thu Feb 19 14:40:09 2009 From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:40:09 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster in Hemmings Magazine Message-ID: Here is a write-up from the photographer and driver: Driving Impression: Nissan SR20-powered Datsun Roadster The actual magazine article will be in Hemmings Sports and Exotics, issue #44, April 2009. I have not seen it yet but I am excited! Enjoy! From gogineni.alvin at gene.com Thu Feb 19 14:45:59 2009 From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:45:59 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster in Hemmings Magazine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: woops, here's the link! http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2009/02/19/driving-impression-nissan-sr20-powered-datsun-roadster/ On Feb 19, 2009, at 1:40 PM, Alvin Gogineni wrote: > Here is a write-up from the photographer and driver: > Driving Impression: Nissan SR20-powered Datsun Roadster > > The actual magazine article will be in Hemmings Sports and Exotics, > issue #44, April 2009. I have not seen it yet but I am excited! > > Enjoy! > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gogineni.alvin at gene.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com Thu Feb 19 15:02:07 2009 From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:02:07 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster in Hemmings Magazine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: BEAUTIFUL Roadster! Great article! Thanks. Greg SRL31100494 On 2/19/09 1:45 PM, "Alvin Gogineni" wrote: > woops, here's the link! > > http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2009/02/19/driving-impression-nissan-sr20-p > owered-datsun-roadster/ > > On > Feb 19, 2009, at 1:40 PM, Alvin Gogineni wrote: > >> Here is a write-up from the photographer and driver: >> Driving Impression: Nissan SR20-powered Datsun Roadster >> >> The actual magazine article will be in Hemmings Sports and Exotics, >> issue #44, April 2009. I have not seen it yet but I am excited! >> >> Enjoy! >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as gogineni.alvin at gene.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gsm at gregorysmorrison.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From alagams at juno.com Thu Feb 19 15:17:14 2009 From: alagams at juno.com (alagams at juno.com) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:17:14 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster in Hemmings Magazine Message-ID: <20090219.171714.15728.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com> Great article Alvin...........way to impress! ____________________________________________________________ Click now to find great remedies for hangovers! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTKyJol0MV1gt0NYpLrZG86RqbIH oxoC9T1qOB04AWoU6Zcj9ETAuU/ From twobeaners at earthlink.net Thu Feb 19 15:33:02 2009 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:33:02 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: FORKLIFT PARTS- R16 engine owners, save some money Message-ID: <00ad01c992e2$0702d4a0$6400a8c0@LAP120> ----- Original Message ----- From: Doris Jefferson To: MIKE Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:44 PM Subject: FORKLIFT PARTS Visit us @ www.forkliftpartssupply.com ....compare and save From tputland at charter.net Fri Feb 20 07:17:52 2009 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 6:17:52 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Front suspension rebuild thoughts Message-ID: <20090220091752.3FURU.532950.root@mp08> Since the list has been so quiet, let me post this question to get some dialog going in anticipation of spring... I think that I am going to rebuild my front suspension this spring. I would like people's thoughts on what should be replaced and what seals, etc I should have on hand. And what might not necessarily need to be replaced. I already have new koni shocks, front bearings, and lower ball joints. I might go ahead and buy upper ball joints just to have as much new stuff as possible so as to not have to deal with the front end again. I will also put new tires on once the suspension is done. I will also be putting on newly rebuilt front brakes--new calipers, shoes, and lines. I will have help from someone who has all the tools necessary. Any thoughts, experiences, do's and don'ts? Thanks!!! Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning From eddietude at socal.rr.com Fri Feb 20 10:26:51 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:26:51 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Wiper Pivot Nuts In-Reply-To: <20090220091752.3FURU.532950.root@mp08> References: <20090220091752.3FURU.532950.root@mp08> Message-ID: <499EE7DB.1040206@socal.rr.com> Does anyone know the exact size of the wiper pivot nuts? These are the nuts that hold the wiper pivots onto the car. I need the thread count and size. They SEEM to be 5/8" with 28 thread count, but I'm not 100% sure. I'm considering having a batch made, as these are nearly impossible to find... Tim wrote: > Since the list has been so quiet, let me post this question to get some dialog going in anticipation of spring... > > I think that I am going to rebuild my front suspension this spring. I would like people's thoughts on what should be replaced and what seals, etc I should have on hand. And what might not necessarily need to be replaced. > > I already have new koni shocks, front bearings, and lower ball joints. I might go ahead and buy upper ball joints just to have as much new stuff as possible so as to not have to deal with the front end again. I will also put new tires on once the suspension is done. > > I will also be putting on newly rebuilt front brakes--new calipers, shoes, and lines. > > I will have help from someone who has all the tools necessary. > > Any thoughts, experiences, do's and don'ts? > > Thanks!!! > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From eddietude at socal.rr.com Fri Feb 20 10:51:46 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:51:46 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Finding Keith Williams Roadster Ranch Message-ID: <499EEDB2.8000209@socal.rr.com> Does anyone have a number or website that has Keith Williams info on it? The link on 311s.org is dead. Thanks. From Keith0alan at aol.com Fri Feb 20 11:01:19 2009 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:01:19 EST Subject: [Roadsters] Finding Keith Williams Roadster Ranch Message-ID: _www.datsunroadsterranch.com_ (http://www.datsunroadsterranch.com) Thanks, keith williams In a message dated 2/20/2009 9:52:06 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, eddietude at socal.rr.com writes: Does anyone have a number or website that has Keith Williams info on it? The link on 311s.org is dead. Thanks. You are subscribed as keith0alan at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! 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The link on 311s.org is dead. > > Thanks. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as keith0alan at aol.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! > * From Keith0alan at aol.com Fri Feb 20 11:22:44 2009 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:22:44 EST Subject: [Roadsters] Finding Keith Williams Roadster Ranch Message-ID: Sorry, I thought I had the email me button on the site. This address works or you can email me at _info at datsunroadsterranch.com_ (mailto:info at datsunroadsterranch.com) . keith williams In a message dated 2/20/2009 10:17:31 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, eddietude at socal.rr.com writes: I previously found that link. It's a great page on how to adjust the carbs, but no contact info! Eddie Keith0alan at aol.com wrote: > www.datsunroadsterranch.com > > Thanks, > > keith williams > > > In a message dated 2/20/2009 9:52:06 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > eddietude at socal.rr.com writes: > > Does anyone have a number or website that has Keith Williams info on > it? The link on 311s.org is dead. > > Thanks. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as keith0alan at aol.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! > * You are subscribed as keith0alan at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri Feb 20 11:28:25 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:28:25 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Wiper Pivot Nuts Message-ID: <022020091828.1307.499EF6490002B8250000051B2200761064CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> I believe the pivots are different for early, 67.5 and late models. If no one else responds, I'll try to measure what I have this weekend. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Eddie Does anyone know the exact size of the wiper pivot nuts? These are the nuts that hold the wiper pivots onto the car. I need the thread count and size. They SEEM to be 5/8" with 28 thread count, but I'm not 100% sure. I'm considering having a batch made, as these are nearly impossible to find... From jrdmf at aol.com Fri Feb 20 12:15:16 2009 From: jrdmf at aol.com (jrdmf at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:15:16 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Wiper Pivot Nuts In-Reply-To: <499EE7DB.1040206@socal.rr.com> References: <20090220091752.3FURU.532950.root@mp08> <499EE7DB.1040206@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <8CB61A6B2574384-FCC-D9@webmail-stg-d07.sysops.aol.com> Can't speak for the tall window cars but the low windows are definitely a 5/8-28 thread. If you're lucky the P.O. hasn't boogered them up?too bad?and you?can have them re-plated. Just make sure you chase the threads when you get em back. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Cc: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 9:26 am Subject: [Roadsters] Wiper Pivot Nuts Does anyone know the exact size of the wiper pivot nuts? These are the nuts that hold the wiper pivots onto the car.? ? I need the thread count and size. ? They SEEM to be 5/8" with 28 thread count, but I'm not 100% sure. I'm considering having a batch made, as these are nearly impossible to find...? ? ? From twobeaners at earthlink.net Fri Feb 20 12:56:55 2009 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:56:55 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Wiper Pivot Nuts References: <20090220091752.3FURU.532950.root@mp08><499EE7DB.1040206@socal.rr.com> <8CB61A6B2574384-FCC-D9@webmail-stg-d07.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <0d6a01c99395$6238f580$6400a8c0@LAP120> I haven't verified the thread and pitch but I use nuts from the early PV544 Volvo, the 122s would also be the same. I'm not sure but I think I've read somewhere, a long while back, British Leyland, I'm thinking MG's ? used the same. I could be wrong on that, but the Volvo ones are what I'm using. I had to use a hacksaw and dremel to get the old ones off. You could try the Victoria British Catalog, MGB, part numbers 0-672 for the 6-sided nut ('62 - '63) or 18-049 , 8-sided nut ('63 - '67). Phone number is 1-800- 541-8525 . I also had new "bevel washers" fabricated and chromed for my '67. It was an excellent project, you couldn't tell the difference from the original except they were heavier (steel versus die-cast). Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-speed ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wiper Pivot Nuts > Can't speak for the tall window cars but the low windows are definitely a 5/8-28 thread. If you're lucky the P.O. hasn't boogered them up?too bad?and you?can have them re-plated. Just make sure you chase the threads when you get em back. > > Jon > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eddie > Cc: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net > Sent: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 9:26 am > Subject: [Roadsters] Wiper Pivot Nuts > > > Does anyone know the exact size of the wiper pivot nuts? These are the nuts that hold the wiper pivots onto the car.? > ? > I need the thread count and size. ? > They SEEM to be 5/8" with 28 thread count, but I'm not 100% sure. I'm considering having a batch made, as these are nearly impossible to find...? > ? > ? > ________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.1/1962 - Release Date: 02/20/09 07:26:00 From fj201 at cox.net Fri Feb 20 14:13:22 2009 From: fj201 at cox.net (Ron Hamilton) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:13:22 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Wiper Pivot Nuts In-Reply-To: <8CB61A6B2574384-FCC-D9@webmail-stg-d07.sysops.aol.com> References: <20090220091752.3FURU.532950.root@mp08> <499EE7DB.1040206@socal.rr.com> <8CB61A6B2574384-FCC-D9@webmail-stg-d07.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <499F1CF2.3000700@cox.net> I think it is a 5/8-27 ; I found the tap that I remembered having a nut placed on it so I wouldn't forget what that tap was for. somewhere in my junk I have a couple of arms with nuts still intact but can't lay my hands on them right now. The nut is thin and with very few threads it might be 27 0r 28 but wouldn't make much difference. The pitch difference is only a couple of thousandths. Ron Hamilton jrdmf at aol.com wrote: > Can't speak for the tall window cars but the low windows are definitely a 5/8-28 thread. If you're lucky the P.O. hasn't boogered them up?too bad?and you?can have them re-plated. Just make sure you chase the threads when you get em back. > > Jon > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eddie > Cc: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net > Sent: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 9:26 am > Subject: [Roadsters] Wiper Pivot Nuts > > > Does anyone know the exact size of the wiper pivot nuts? These are the nuts that hold the wiper pivots onto the car.? > ? > I need the thread count and size. ? > They SEEM to be 5/8" with 28 thread count, but I'm not 100% sure. I'm considering having a batch made, as these are nearly impossible to find...? From chalsted at comcast.net Sat Feb 21 05:10:13 2009 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:10:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] OT- 7k original mile 720 PU for sale in Connecticut In-Reply-To: <412133650.981351235217601609.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <2036591026.982861235218213886.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> don't know if anyone would be interested but there's an '82 720 pickup for sale up north that's as new. they're asking the price too- $12,500. I got sent photos and can forward them. haven't priced any new small pickups so don't know how that compares to what's out there. although I got the photos from a private individual, front tag looked to be a dealer tag and if I'm right these are the folks selling it. give 'em a call if you're interested. www.gatesgmcnissan.com B 860-456-0055 owner is Denny Gates so he'd be the guy to deal with. evidently someone who owns a roadster put a $1k deposit on it but then backed out because someone told him the price was too high. even if that person might be someone I know, shame on them...if I was selling the vehicle, under those circumstances I don't know if I would have returned the deposit as it's a committment to buy. if they came and were unhappy with the vehicle itself I'd refund but just because someone else tells them they're paying too much- I don't think so. Craig mostly roadsters From aybreeze at comcast.net Sat Feb 21 08:27:20 2009 From: aybreeze at comcast.net (aybreeze at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:27:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: OT- 7k original mile 720 PU for sale in Connecticut In-Reply-To: <1080921549.976011235229831827.JavaMail.root@sz0038a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1962105193.977371235230040724.JavaMail.root@sz0038a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Having been on both ends of a dealer. I ran a Datsun dealership in London, when I moved to USA in 1983 ,I decided that after several interviews with local Miami dealerships, B I could not sell cars the way they requiredB , one of the many questionsB asked was would you lie to sell unit?.I put no and was told I was not aggressive enough! one of the first things to get from walk in customer B after his name was a commitment to purchase IE deposit so that the sales man supposedlyB would not waste time on tire kickers luckily there is a refund law to cover deposits left by unsuspecting buyers in the heat of the moment this could be more prevalent in Florida but I have personally met with the same practice in New JerseyB where I keep my 240SX convertable It is very easy to get Sold by these professionals whilst star struck in front of a beautiful Datsun B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B Arthur B ! Keep smiling B B B B Arthur ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: chalsted at comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:10:13 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Roadsters] OT- 7k original mile 720 PU for sale in Connecticut don't know if anyone would be interested but there's an '82 720 pickup for sale up north that's as new. they're asking the price too- $12,500. I got sent photos and can forward them. haven't priced any new small pickups so don't know how that compares to what's out there. although I got the photos from a private individual, front tag looked to be a dealer tag and if I'm right these are the folks selling it. give 'em a call if you're interested. www.gatesgmcnissan.com B B 860-456-0055 owner is Denny Gates so he'd be the guy to deal with. evidently someone who owns a roadster put a $1k deposit on it but then backed out because someone told him the price was too high. even if that person might be someone I know, shame on them...if I was selling the vehicle, under those circumstances I don't know if I would have returned the deposit as it's a committment to buy. if they came and were unhappy with the vehicle itself I'd refund but just because someone else tells them they're paying too much- I don't think so. Craig mostly roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From markmussari at gmail.com Sat Feb 21 14:34:56 2009 From: markmussari at gmail.com (Mark Mussari) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:34:56 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] U20 motor pull Message-ID: Gang, Been lurking here for a while and wanted to touch base on my plans. I'll be pulling my u20 in favor of a sr20 swap. Just seeing what the interest might be for the old motor here. I'm LA Local, looking to have the engine out next month. What's the value? Anyone know? Mark From todd.osborn at sbcglobal.net Sat Feb 21 15:41:41 2009 From: todd.osborn at sbcglobal.net (Todd Osborn) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:41:41 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] U-20 Upper Tensioner Diameter? In-Reply-To: <002d01c99169$b76a4b40$263ee1c0$@net> Message-ID: >Gordon said: >0.565" on the tensioner shaft. >A 9/16" washer has an ID of 0.5625", so probably a little too small. The nominal ID of a 9/16 washer is 0.594 which gives you about 0.015" clearance which should be about right. Gordon's right you will need to grind a flat on one side to fit. I like idea of using Nylon or Delrin; but the long term service temperature of these materials is fairly low (~200F) so I'm not sure how they would do in hot oil. Maybe a cut down brass washer? Todd Osborn (DATSFUN) San Jose, CA From pscowboy9 at yahoo.com Sat Feb 21 16:49:55 2009 From: pscowboy9 at yahoo.com (Steven Burton) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:49:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] No Spark Message-ID: <706965.27891.qm@web53606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I've got a 66 1600 that is not getting a spark at the plugs. I've checked all the wiring I could think of. ran continuity tests on all the wires. I've put a new coil resistor, voltage regulator and replaced the coil. I'm actually getting more spark with the old coil, but not enough to start the car. short if my new coil being defective, any suggestions on things to try? the weather is getting real nice here and its been a year since I've been able to have my roadster out on the road. Thanks Steve From pat at hornesystemstx.com Sat Feb 21 17:01:58 2009 From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 18:01:58 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] No Spark In-Reply-To: <706965.27891.qm@web53606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <706965.27891.qm@web53606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49A095F6.70301@hornesystemstx.com> Steve, You say you are not getting spark at the plugs, but seem to say that you are getting spark spark at the coil wire, but not enough. Try replacing the condenser across the points. If it is not working you may get a weak spark. If that doesn't fix the problem try reading the voltage from ground to the points connection on the distributor with the points both closed and open. You should get zero n(or at least well under one volt) with the points closed, and battery voltage with them open. Let us know what you find and we can go on from here. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Steven Burton, On 2/21/2009 5:49 PM: > I've got a 66 1600 that is not getting a spark at the plugs. I've checked all > the wiring I could think of. ran continuity tests on all the wires. I've put > a new coil resistor, voltage regulator and replaced the coil. I'm actually > getting more spark with the old coil, but not enough to start the car. > > short if my new coil being defective, any suggestions on things to try? the > weather is getting real nice here and its been a year since I've been able to > have my roadster out on the road. > > Thanks > Steve > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.2/1964 - Release Date: 02/21/09 11:05:00 > > -- --- Pat Horne 512.797.7501 Owner, Horne Systems pat at hornesystemstx.com 5026 FM 2001 Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 --We support Habitat for Humanity, a hand UP, not a hand OUT-- From turbored at gmail.com Sat Feb 21 14:58:44 2009 From: turbored at gmail.com (turbored) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:58:44 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: OT- 7k original mile 720 PU for sale in Connecticut In-Reply-To: <1962105193.977371235230040724.JavaMail.root@sz0038a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1962105193.977371235230040724.JavaMail.root@sz0038a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <6E65736D-6D1D-4750-9566-3D9E89D1B6C3@gmail.com> Why do i get all these Bs in this email at random locations? On Feb 21, 2009, at 7:27 AM, aybreeze at comcast.net wrote: > Having been on both ends of a dealer. I ran a Datsun dealership in > London, > > when I moved to USA in 1983 ,I decided that after several interviews > with > local Miami dealerships, B I could not sell cars the way they > requiredB , > > one of the many questionsB asked was would you lie to sell unit?.I > put no and > was told I was not aggressive enough! > > one of the first things to get from walk in customer > > B after his name was a commitment to purchase IE deposit so that the > sales man > > supposedlyB would not waste time on tire kickers > > luckily there is a refund law to cover deposits left by unsuspecting > buyers in > the heat of the moment > > this could be more prevalent in Florida but I have personally met > with the > same practice in New JerseyB where I keep my 240SX convertable > > It is very easy to get Sold by these professionals whilst star > struck in front > of a beautiful Datsun > > B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B Arthur > B ! > Keep smiling > B B B B Arthur > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: chalsted at comcast.net > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:10:13 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada > Eastern > Subject: [Roadsters] OT- 7k original mile 720 PU for sale in > Connecticut > > don't know if anyone would be interested but there's an '82 720 > pickup for > sale up north that's as new. they're asking the price too- $12,500. > I got sent > photos and can forward them. haven't priced any new small pickups so > don't > know how that compares to what's out there. although I got the > photos from a > private individual, front tag looked to be a dealer tag and if I'm > right these > are the folks selling it. give 'em a call if you're interested. > > www.gatesgmcnissan.com B B 860-456-0055 owner is Denny Gates so he'd > be the > guy > to deal with. evidently someone who owns a roadster put a $1k > deposit on it > but then backed out because someone told him the price was too high. > even if > that person might be someone I know, shame on them...if I was > selling the > vehicle, under those circumstances I don't know if I would have > returned the > deposit as it's a committment to buy. if they came and were unhappy > with the > vehicle itself I'd refund but just because someone else tells them > they're > paying too much- I don't think so. > > Craig > > mostly roadsters > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as turbored at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From daveandlindab at comcast.net Sun Feb 22 12:10:43 2009 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 14:10:43 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] U-20 Upper Tensioner Diameter? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9454DF71ED614E9B826B54F0386D26C6@delled48909442> FWIW, Copper sealing washers may be ideal, thin profile and durable. Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: Todd Osborn [mailto:todd.osborn at sbcglobal.net] Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 5:42 PM To: 'Roadster List' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] U-20 Upper Tensioner Diameter? >Gordon said: >0.565" on the tensioner shaft. >A 9/16" washer has an ID of 0.5625", so probably a little too small. The nominal ID of a 9/16 washer is 0.594 which gives you about 0.015" clearance which should be about right. Gordon's right you will need to grind a flat on one side to fit. I like idea of using Nylon or Delrin; but the long term service temperature of these materials is fairly low (~200F) so I'm not sure how they would do in hot oil. Maybe a cut down brass washer? Todd Osborn (DATSFUN) San Jose, CA From twobeaners at earthlink.net Sun Feb 22 12:40:19 2009 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 13:40:19 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] U-20 Upper Tensioner Diameter? References: <9454DF71ED614E9B826B54F0386D26C6@delled48909442> Message-ID: <005e01c99525$6587ffb0$6400a8c0@LAP120> I've been meaning to ask this question before, when the subject of shimming chain tensioners has come up. Is there the same benefit of doing this on the R16 timing chain tensioner? Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave" To: "'Todd Osborn'" ; "'Roadster List'" Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] U-20 Upper Tensioner Diameter? > FWIW, Copper sealing washers may be ideal, thin profile and durable. > > Dave Brisco > > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd Osborn [mailto:todd.osborn at sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 5:42 PM > To: 'Roadster List' > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] U-20 Upper Tensioner Diameter? > > >Gordon said: > >0.565" on the tensioner shaft. > >A 9/16" washer has an ID of 0.5625", so probably a little too small. > > The nominal ID of a 9/16 washer is 0.594 which gives you about 0.015" > clearance which should be about right. Gordon's right you will need to grind > a flat on one side to fit. I like idea of using Nylon or Delrin; but the > long term service temperature of these materials is fairly low (~200F) so > I'm not sure how they would do in hot oil. Maybe a cut down brass washer? > Todd Osborn (DATSFUN) > San Jose, CA From twobeaners at earthlink.net Sun Feb 22 13:07:01 2009 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 14:07:01 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] U-20 Upper Tensioner Diameter? References: <9454DF71ED614E9B826B54F0386D26C6@delled48909442> <005e01c99525$6587ffb0$6400a8c0@LAP120> <000601c99527$e3e3f380$ababda80$@net> Message-ID: <009f01c99529$20742490$6400a8c0@LAP120> The R16 uses a hydraulic/spring loaded timing chain tensioner, same function as on the U20. Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net> To: "'MH'" Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 1:58 PM Subject: RE: [Roadsters] U-20 Upper Tensioner Diameter? > I think maybe you're referring to shimming the cam towers on a U20. Needs > to be done when the head is milled in order to maintain chain tension. > Since the R16 is a push rod engine with a short timing chain, all inside the > block, there is nothing to shim. > > Paul > Ohio > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of MH > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 2:40 PM > To: dave; 'Todd Osborn'; 'Roadster List' > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] U-20 Upper Tensioner Diameter? > > I've been meaning to ask this question before, when the subject of shimming > chain tensioners has come up. Is there the same benefit of doing this on the > R16 timing chain tensioner? > Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-speed > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dave" > To: "'Todd Osborn'" ; "'Roadster List'" > > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 1:10 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] U-20 Upper Tensioner Diameter? > > > > FWIW, Copper sealing washers may be ideal, thin profile and durable. > > > > Dave Brisco > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Todd Osborn [mailto:todd.osborn at sbcglobal.net] > > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 5:42 PM > > To: 'Roadster List' > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] U-20 Upper Tensioner Diameter? > > > > >Gordon said: > > >0.565" on the tensioner shaft. > > >A 9/16" washer has an ID of 0.5625", so probably a little too small. > > > > The nominal ID of a 9/16 washer is 0.594 which gives you about 0.015" > > clearance which should be about right. Gordon's right you will need to > grind > > a flat on one side to fit. I like idea of using Nylon or Delrin; but the > > long term service temperature of these materials is fairly low (~200F) so > > I'm not sure how they would do in hot oil. Maybe a cut down brass washer? > > Todd Osborn (DATSFUN) > > San Jose, CA > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as 9laser3 at bright.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.2/1965 - Release Date: 02/21/09 15:36:00 From chalsted at comcast.net Sun Feb 22 13:56:17 2009 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:56:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] scams on Craigslist In-Reply-To: <1623403796.1401331235336060568.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <262180060.1402211235336177740.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I put my Bob Sharp GT33 Special 280Z on Craigslist DC and here's part of a response I got after sending pix out to someone... I am okayB with the price of this item and the condition of items and weB will like to make an outright purchase of this particular item immediately because we are in need of it and we want to get as soon as possible, I anticipate that a Money Order or Certified Check will be sent to you via Express Mail or UPS or FedEx as the mode of payment...And concerning the pickup, i will be responsible for that, i will have my mover to come for the pick up at your resident upon your confirmation of receiving the payment and i want you to remove this item from the ad now. So i will send the payment which will include the pick up charges, in which you will make payable to the mover via Money Gramm/Western Union immediately after you have receive the payment and you will be compensated with $10 extra for your running around to the Money Gram/Western Union Outlet to avoid the delay. And I would have love to come for the viewing but due to my work frame thatmight not be possible...So pls i will like you to provide the following payment information below so that the payment can be issue out to your address as soon as possible. Full nameB ........................................... Full home address (physical)............. City................................................ can you believe folks still fall for this crap? sheesh.... Craig From vze2fhba at verizon.net Sun Feb 22 14:07:32 2009 From: vze2fhba at verizon.net (Charles Breault) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:07:32 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] scams on Craigslist In-Reply-To: <262180060.1402211235336177740.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1623403796.1401331235336060568.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <262180060.1402211235336177740.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <93D1AA0D1D0C4A2FAA6E1AFC22BBA63B@Home> People probably still fall for the Nigerian lottery scam. Greed breeds suckers. CharlieB. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of chalsted at comcast.net Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 3:56 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] scams on Craigslist I put my Bob Sharp GT33 Special 280Z on Craigslist DC and here's part of a response I got after sending pix out to someone... I am okayB with the price of this item and the condition of items and weB will like to make an outright purchase of this particular item immediately because we are in need of it and we want to get as soon as possible, I anticipate that a Money Order or Certified Check will be sent to you via Express Mail or UPS or FedEx as the mode of payment...And concerning the pickup, i will be responsible for that, i will have my mover to come for the pick up at your resident upon your confirmation of receiving the payment and i want you to remove this item from the ad now. So i will send the payment which will include the pick up charges, in which you will make payable to the mover via Money Gramm/Western Union immediately after you have receive the payment and you will be compensated with $10 extra for your running around to the Money Gram/Western Union Outlet to avoid the delay. And I would have love to come for the viewing but due to my work frame thatmight not be possible...So pls i will like you to provide the following payment information below so that the payment can be issue out to your address as soon as possible. Full nameB ........................................... Full home address (physical)............. City................................................ can you believe folks still fall for this crap? sheesh.... Craig You are subscribed as vze2fhba at verizon.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From razmataz at indy.net Sun Feb 22 15:11:11 2009 From: razmataz at indy.net (Stan Rasmussen) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 17:11:11 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] scams on Craigslist In-Reply-To: <262180060.1402211235336177740.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Get a rope ! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of chalsted at comcast.net Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 3:56 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] scams on Craigslist I put my Bob Sharp GT33 Special 280Z on Craigslist DC and here's part of a response I got after sending pix out to someone... I am okayB with the price of this item and the condition of items and weB will like to make an outright purchase of this particular item immediately because we are in need of it and we want to get as soon as possible, I anticipate that a Money Order or Certified Check will be sent to you via Express Mail or UPS or FedEx as the mode of payment...And concerning the pickup, i will be responsible for that, i will have my mover to come for the pick up at your resident upon your confirmation of receiving the payment and i want you to remove this item from the ad now. So i will send the payment which will include the pick up charges, in which you will make payable to the mover via Money Gramm/Western Union immediately after you have receive the payment and you will be compensated with $10 extra for your running around to the Money Gram/Western Union Outlet to avoid the delay. And I would have love to come for the viewing but due to my work frame thatmight not be possible...So pls i will like you to provide the following payment information below so that the payment can be issue out to your address as soon as possible. Full nameB ........................................... Full home address (physical)............. City................................................ can you believe folks still fall for this crap? sheesh.... Craig You are subscribed as razmataz at indy.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.2/1965 - Release Date: 02/21/09 15:36:00 From eddietude at socal.rr.com Sun Feb 22 15:23:00 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 14:23:00 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Line size Message-ID: <49A1D044.5000100@socal.rr.com> I'm about to put the fuel system together, and I noticed the fuel lines in my car are the same diameter as the brake lines. This seems awful small to me. Are all cars this way, and is this correct, or did some bonehead put small fuel lines in my vehicle? Thanks. Eddie From daveandlindab at comcast.net Sun Feb 22 15:30:33 2009 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 17:30:33 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] U-20 Upper Tensioner Diameter? In-Reply-To: <005e01c99525$6587ffb0$6400a8c0@LAP120> Message-ID: <859AABEC094740278EAAC944DDC68FD1@delled48909442> I don't think so, it's a much shorter chain, so slack/backlash is less of an issue. Average American V8 has a chain the same size and no tensioners at all. The tensioner for an Austin Healey and many other British engines is almost identical to the R16, but it ratchets and locks as the slack occurs. Nice design. I was going to order one for the stroker to see if it would work. Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: MH [mailto:twobeaners at earthlink.net] I've been meaning to ask this question before, when the subject of shimming chain tensioners has come up. Is there the same benefit of doing this on the R16 timing chain tensioner? Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave" > FWIW, Copper sealing washers may be ideal, thin profile and durable. > > Dave Brisco > > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd Osborn [mailto:todd.osborn at sbcglobal.net] > >Gordon said: > >0.565" on the tensioner shaft. > >A 9/16" washer has an ID of 0.5625", so probably a little too small. > > The nominal ID of a 9/16 washer is 0.594 which gives you about 0.015" > clearance which should be about right. Gordon's right you will need to grind > a flat on one side to fit. I like idea of using Nylon or Delrin; but the > long term service temperature of these materials is fairly low (~200F) so > I'm not sure how they would do in hot oil. Maybe a cut down brass washer? > Todd Osborn (DATSFUN) > San Jose, CA From tom at datsun2000.com Sun Feb 22 16:12:52 2009 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 15:12:52 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] scams on Craigslist Message-ID: It is not just roadsters. I placed an ad for a friend who wanted to rent a room in her home. She got a nice reply from a lady in England. After several pleasant e-mails the prospective renter wanted to send a $4000 check, from which the deposit and several months rent was to be deducted. The remainder was to be wired back to pay for surgery for her mother. Fortunately my friend told me about this funny request and I educated my her about this scam. She has seen it several time since and always avoided it. I was at a Western Union office for another reason and a customer was arguing with the teller, who was telling him what he was doing was a scam. He would not listen and wanted to send $1200, even after I told him what the teller was telling him was a very common scam. I don't know what he finally did, but he was determined to send the money because he was going to make so much money over and above the cost of the dog he was selling. Isn't greed wonderful? Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland, OR On 2/22/2009 2:11:11 PM, Stan Rasmussen (razmataz at indy.net) wrote: > Get a rope ! > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > chalsted at comcast.net > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 3:56 PM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] scams on Craigslist > > > I put my Bob Sharp GT33 Special 280Z on Craigslist DC and here's part of > a response I got after sending pix out to someone... > > > > I am okayB with the price of this item and the condition of items and > weB > will like to make an outright purchase of this particular item > immediately because we are in need of it and we want to get as soon as > possible, I anticipate that a Money Order or Certified Check will be > sent to you via Express Mail or UPS or FedEx as the mode of > payment...And concerning the pickup, i will be responsible for that, i > will have my mover to come for the pick up at your resident upon your > confirmation of receiving the payment and i want you to remove this item > from the ad now. So i will send the payment which will include the pick > up charges, in which you will make payable to the mover via Money > Gramm/Western Union immediately after you have From aultgc at att.net Sun Feb 22 16:37:07 2009 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 17:37:07 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Line size References: <49A1D044.5000100@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <59D6179B1C014CC1BA132AD9BEEA5238@gaxp1> Eddie, The fuel line (metal line from the tank) in my '66 measures 0.265 inches OD; the brake lines measure 0.195 inches OD. All lines are original. The rubber fuel line from the filter to the pump is 5/16-inch ID, and the rubber line from the pump to the carbs is 1/4-inch ID. Why the difference, I have no clue. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 4:23 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Line size > I'm about to put the fuel system together, and I noticed the fuel lines in > my car are the same diameter as the brake lines. This seems awful small > to me. > Are all cars this way, and is this correct, or did some bonehead put small > fuel lines in my vehicle? > > Thanks. > > Eddie > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From 9laser3 at bright.net Sun Feb 22 16:41:29 2009 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:41:29 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] scams on Craigslist In-Reply-To: <262180060.1402211235336177740.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1623403796.1401331235336060568.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <262180060.1402211235336177740.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <003801c99547$16745870$435d0950$@net> I got the same letter, almost word for word, when I listed my 510 on Craigs list. I replied and said cash would be better, but if they wanted to send a check, that would be fine. And I'd have the car ready to ship, .... as soon as the check cleared, .... in 6 months or so! My wife works at a bank and they have customers falling for this and the Nigerian lottery scams every week. Greedy folks just can't see past the dollar signs! Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of chalsted at comcast.net Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 3:56 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] scams on Craigslist I put my Bob Sharp GT33 Special 280Z on Craigslist DC and here's part of a response I got after sending pix out to someone... I am okayB with the price of this item and the condition of items and weB will like to make an outright purchase of this particular item immediately because we are in need of it and we want to get as soon as possible, I anticipate that a Money Order or Certified Check will be sent to you via Express Mail or UPS or FedEx as the mode of payment...And concerning the pickup, i will be responsible for that, i will have my mover to come for the pick up at your resident upon your confirmation of receiving the payment and i want you to remove this item from the ad now. So i will send the payment which will include the pick up charges, in which you will make payable to the mover via Money Gramm/Western Union immediately after you have receive the payment and you will be compensated with $10 extra for your running around to the Money Gram/Western Union Outlet to avoid the delay. And I would have love to come for the viewing but due to my work frame thatmight not be possible...So pls i will like you to provide the following payment information below so that the payment can be issue out to your address as soon as possible. Full nameB ........................................... Full home address (physical)............. City................................................ can you believe folks still fall for this crap? sheesh.... Craig You are subscribed as 9laser3 at bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From andycost at embarqmail.com Sun Feb 22 17:17:09 2009 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:17:09 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Motor apart Message-ID: I fixed a slipping supercharger belt problem before the last race of the season in November. It really ran well for about 30 seconds. It then started to miss badly. We ran the remainder of the race in Dennis' Mustang. I finally got the motor apart this evening. It had the milkshake oil problem. When I got it all apart I found 1 blown headgasket, two spun bearings, three broken pistons, and a partridge in a pear tree. It really isn't as bad as it could be. About an inch of the netal sealing ring around the bore in the headgasket was gone. It looks like a bit of the metal may have gotten in the rod bearings because two of them have scratches through the coating and into the copper. The journals look fine with no scratches or anything. Three pistons have broken ring lands but no missing bits of metal. I have an ARP head stud kit and a metal headgasket to put back on it. I will buy a new set of pistons and rings and replace the rod bearings. I don't think I'm going to do any additional rebuilding past that. I think that the months where it was running poorly from injection problems caused some detonation which eventually broke the ringlands and headgasket. I'm going to install Frontier truck pistons because they are lower compression than the 240sx ones. Andy From gregs672liter at netzero.net Sun Feb 22 17:30:40 2009 From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:30:40 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] No Spark Message-ID: <20090222.163040.23089.1@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> I've seen balast resisters do this just as Pat has indicated. Greg Burrows -- Pat Horne wrote: Steve, You say you are not getting spark at the plugs, but seem to say that you are getting spark spark at the coil wire, but not enough. Try replacing the condenser across the points. If it is not working you may get a weak spark. If that doesn't fix the problem try reading the voltage from ground to the points connection on the distributor with the points both closed and open. You should get zero n(or at least well under one volt) with the points closed, and battery voltage with them open. Let us know what you find and we can go on from here. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Steven Burton, On 2/21/2009 5:49 PM: > I've got a 66 1600 that is not getting a spark at the plugs. I've checked all > the wiring I could think of. ran continuity tests on all the wires. I've put > a new coil resistor, voltage regulator and replaced the coil. I'm actually > getting more spark with the old coil, but not enough to start the car. > > short if my new coil being defective, any suggestions on things to try? the > weather is getting real nice here and its been a year since I've been able to > have my roadster out on the road. > > Thanks > Steve > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.2/1964 - Release Date: 02/21/09 11:05:00 > > -- --- Pat Horne 512.797.7501 Owner, Horne Systems pat at hornesystemstx.com 5026 FM 2001 Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 --We support Habitat for Humanity, a hand UP, not a hand OUT-- You are subscribed as gregs672liter at netzero.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ____________________________________________________________ Stuck in a dead end job?? Click to start living your dreams by earning an online degree. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/BLSrjpYXUPF2TvSNueePlcgBbH2ZxG BgEdFhsNdm8cS0PMR7YnVH7pKGPNO/ From eddietude at socal.rr.com Sun Feb 22 23:31:22 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 22:31:22 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Line size In-Reply-To: <59D6179B1C014CC1BA132AD9BEEA5238@gaxp1> References: <49A1D044.5000100@socal.rr.com> <59D6179B1C014CC1BA132AD9BEEA5238@gaxp1> Message-ID: <49A242BA.9070003@socal.rr.com> IT doesn't make much sense to have varying thicknesses in the fuel line, because the least sized section determines the MOST amount of fuel flow. But, thanks for the info. Do you have the metal line measurements in fractions? Eddie Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > Eddie, > > The fuel line (metal line from the tank) in my '66 measures 0.265 > inches OD; the brake lines measure 0.195 inches OD. All lines are > original. > > The rubber fuel line from the filter to the pump is 5/16-inch ID, and > the rubber line from the pump to the carbs is 1/4-inch ID. Why the > difference, I have no clue. > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 4:23 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Line size > > >> I'm about to put the fuel system together, and I noticed the fuel >> lines in my car are the same diameter as the brake lines. This seems >> awful small to me. >> Are all cars this way, and is this correct, or did some bonehead put >> small fuel lines in my vehicle? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Eddie >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From eddietude at socal.rr.com Sun Feb 22 23:35:40 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 22:35:40 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Line size In-Reply-To: <49A242BA.9070003@socal.rr.com> References: <49A1D044.5000100@socal.rr.com> <59D6179B1C014CC1BA132AD9BEEA5238@gaxp1> <49A242BA.9070003@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <49A243BC.4000800@socal.rr.com> Duh, I answered my own question... The fuel .265 OD is = to 17/64 a hair over 1/4 The brake .195 is between 3/16 and 13/64 Not sure what size line those would be though, as fuel line sizes are in ID, aren't they? Eddie Eddie wrote: > IT doesn't make much sense to have varying thicknesses in the fuel > line, because the least sized section determines the MOST amount of > fuel flow. > > But, thanks for the info. Do you have the metal line measurements in > fractions? > > Eddie > > Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: >> Eddie, >> >> The fuel line (metal line from the tank) in my '66 measures 0.265 >> inches OD; the brake lines measure 0.195 inches OD. All lines are >> original. >> >> The rubber fuel line from the filter to the pump is 5/16-inch ID, and >> the rubber line from the pump to the carbs is 1/4-inch ID. Why the >> difference, I have no clue. >> >> Gary >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" >> To: "Datsun Roadster List" >> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 4:23 PM >> Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Line size >> >> >>> I'm about to put the fuel system together, and I noticed the fuel >>> lines in my car are the same diameter as the brake lines. This >>> seems awful small to me. >>> Are all cars this way, and is this correct, or did some bonehead put >>> small fuel lines in my vehicle? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Eddie >>> ________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net >>> >>> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From 9laser3 at bright.net Mon Feb 23 05:20:36 2009 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 07:20:36 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Line size In-Reply-To: <49A242BA.9070003@socal.rr.com> References: <49A1D044.5000100@socal.rr.com> <59D6179B1C014CC1BA132AD9BEEA5238@gaxp1> <49A242BA.9070003@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <005401c995b1$253d1580$6fb74080$@net> The fuel from the tank to the pump is not under pressure so it requires a larger diameter. Past the pump, it's pressurized to the carbs. Paul (Just a guess?) Ohio -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Eddie IT doesn't make much sense to have varying thicknesses in the fuel line, because the least sized section determines the MOST amount of fuel flow. But, thanks for the info. Do you have the metal line measurements in fractions? Eddie Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > Eddie, > > The fuel line (metal line from the tank) in my '66 measures 0.265 > inches OD; the brake lines measure 0.195 inches OD. All lines are > original. > > The rubber fuel line from the filter to the pump is 5/16-inch ID, and > the rubber line from the pump to the carbs is 1/4-inch ID. Why the > difference, I have no clue. > > Gary From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Feb 23 09:49:33 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:49:33 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] scams on Craigslist Message-ID: <022320091649.3062.49A2D39D000C5D5F00000BF62207300033CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> I have had the same thing occur several times with regular household items. After the second instance, I quit allowing email responses to my craigslist ads....phone only. Fewer responses, but only people who really want the items are calling. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" > It is not just roadsters. > > I placed an ad for a friend who wanted to rent a room in her home. She got > a nice reply from a lady in England. After several pleasant e-mails the > prospective renter wanted to send a $4000 check, from which the deposit and > several months rent was to be deducted. The remainder was to be wired back > to pay for surgery for her mother. > > Fortunately my friend told me about this funny request and I educated my her > about this scam. She has seen it several time since and always avoided it. > > I was at a Western Union office for another reason and a customer was > arguing with the teller, who was telling him what he was doing was a scam. > He would not listen and wanted to send $1200, even after I told him what the > teller was telling him was a very common scam. I don't know what he finally > did, but he was determined to send the money because he was going to make so > much money over and above the cost of the dog he was selling. Isn't greed > wonderful? > > Tom > 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde > Portland, OR > > > On 2/22/2009 2:11:11 PM, Stan Rasmussen (razmataz at indy.net) wrote: > > Get a rope ! > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net > > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > > chalsted at comcast.net > > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 3:56 PM > > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Subject: [Roadsters] scams on Craigslist > > > > > > I put my Bob Sharp GT33 Special 280Z on Craigslist DC and here's part of > > a response I got after sending pix out to someone... > > > > > > > > I am okayB with the price of this item and the condition of items and > > weB > > will like to make an outright purchase of this particular item > > immediately because we are in need of it and we want to get as soon as > > possible, I anticipate that a Money Order or Certified Check will be > > sent to you via Express Mail or UPS or FedEx as the mode of > > payment...And concerning the pickup, i will be responsible for that, i > > will have my mover to come for the pick up at your resident upon your > > confirmation of receiving the payment and i want you to remove this item > > from the ad now. So i will send the payment which will include the pick > > up charges, in which you will make payable to the mover via Money > > Gramm/Western Union immediately after you have > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From aultgc at att.net Mon Feb 23 19:30:21 2009 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:30:21 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Line size References: <49A1D044.5000100@socal.rr.com> <59D6179B1C014CC1BA132AD9BEEA5238@gaxp1> <49A242BA.9070003@socal.rr.com> <005401c995b1$253d1580$6fb74080$@net> Message-ID: <415BD714A0F84EE6B10E4886319B72C6@gaxp1> Paul, Gasoline is essentially incompressible, so the fuel pressure will not contribute to a difference in pressure loss upstream and downstream of the pump. Differences in fluid velocity will, but I doubt that the use of the same size line upstream and downstream of the pump will make any difference in fuel delivery. But then, I'm not the engineer who designed the system, so what do I know? Why the difference in line size? Beats me. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net> To: "'Eddie'" ; "'Gary and Cindy Ault'" Cc: "'Datsun Roadster List'" Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:20 AM Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Fuel Line size > The fuel from the tank to the pump is not under pressure so it requires a > larger diameter. Past the pump, it's pressurized to the carbs. > > Paul (Just a guess?) > Ohio > > -----Original Message----- > On Behalf Of Eddie > > IT doesn't make much sense to have varying thicknesses in the fuel line, > because the least sized section determines the MOST amount of fuel flow. > > But, thanks for the info. Do you have the metal line measurements in > fractions? > > Eddie > > Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: >> Eddie, >> >> The fuel line (metal line from the tank) in my '66 measures 0.265 >> inches OD; the brake lines measure 0.195 inches OD. All lines are >> original. >> >> The rubber fuel line from the filter to the pump is 5/16-inch ID, and >> the rubber line from the pump to the carbs is 1/4-inch ID. Why the >> difference, I have no clue. >> >> Gary From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com Mon Feb 23 19:44:47 2009 From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:44:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Line size References: <49A1D044.5000100@socal.rr.com> <59D6179B1C014CC1BA132AD9BEEA5238@gaxp1> <49A242BA.9070003@socal.rr.com> <005401c995b1$253d1580$6fb74080$@net> <415BD714A0F84EE6B10E4886319B72C6@gaxp1> Message-ID: <517853.16075.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hi everyone i have a related question. my H20 has 44PHH carbs. i would like to change to an electric fuel pump. at what pressure should the pump run? thanks in advance steve 675MIZU ________________________________ From: Gary and Cindy Ault To: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net>; Eddie Cc: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:30:21 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel Line size Paul, Gasoline is essentially incompressible, so the fuel pressure will not contribute to a difference in pressure loss upstream and downstream of the pump. Differences in fluid velocity will, but I doubt that the use of the same size line upstream and downstream of the pump will make any difference in fuel delivery. But then, I'm not the engineer who designed the system, so what do I know? Why the difference in line size? Beats me. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net> To: "'Eddie'" ; "'Gary and Cindy Ault'" Cc: "'Datsun Roadster List'" Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:20 AM Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Fuel Line size > The fuel from the tank to the pump is not under pressure so it requires a > larger diameter. Past the pump, it's pressurized to the carbs. > > Paul (Just a guess?) > Ohio > > -----Original Message----- > On Behalf Of Eddie > > IT doesn't make much sense to have varying thicknesses in the fuel line, > because the least sized section determines the MOST amount of fuel flow. > > But, thanks for the info. Do you have the metal line measurements in > fractions? > > Eddie > > Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: >> Eddie, >> >> The fuel line (metal line from the tank) in my '66 measures 0.265 >> inches OD; the brake lines measure 0.195 inches OD. All lines are >> original. >> >> The rubber fuel line from the filter to the pump is 5/16-inch ID, and >> the rubber line from the pump to the carbs is 1/4-inch ID. Why the >> difference, I have no clue. >> >> Gary You are subscribed as vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From RWM at RWMann.com Mon Feb 23 19:50:26 2009 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM (Out of the Office)) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:50:26 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Line size In-Reply-To: <517853.16075.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <49A1D044.5000100@socal.rr.com> <59D6179B1C014CC1BA132AD9BEEA5238@gaxp1> <49A242BA.9070003@socal.rr.com> <005401c995b1$253d1580$6fb74080$@net> <415BD714A0F84EE6B10E4886319B72C6@gaxp1> <517853.16075.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49A36072.40806@RWMann.com> 3.5 - 4.0 psi is judged ideal. Make sure you fit it with an inertial kill switch separate from the ignition. I'll venture the larger diameter fuel line upstream of the pump is to lessen suction pumping losses. - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex steven boortz wrote: > hi everyone > i have a related question. my H20 has 44PHH carbs. i would like to change to an electric fuel pump. at what pressure should the pump run? > thanks in advance > steve > 675MIZU > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Gary and Cindy Ault > To: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net>; Eddie > Cc: Datsun Roadster List > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:30:21 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel Line size > > Paul, > > Gasoline is essentially incompressible, so the fuel pressure will not > contribute to a difference in pressure loss upstream and downstream of the > pump. Differences in fluid velocity will, but I doubt that the use of the > same size line upstream and downstream of the pump will make any difference > in fuel delivery. But then, I'm not the engineer who designed the system, > so what do I know? Why the difference in line size? Beats me. > > Gary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net> > To: "'Eddie'" ; "'Gary and Cindy Ault'" > > Cc: "'Datsun Roadster List'" > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:20 AM > Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Fuel Line size > > > >> The fuel from the tank to the pump is not under pressure so it requires a >> larger diameter. Past the pump, it's pressurized to the carbs. >> >> Paul (Just a guess?) >> Ohio >> >> -----Original Message----- >> On Behalf Of Eddie >> >> IT doesn't make much sense to have varying thicknesses in the fuel line, >> because the least sized section determines the MOST amount of fuel flow. >> >> But, thanks for the info. Do you have the metal line measurements in >> fractions? >> >> Eddie >> >> Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: >> >>> Eddie, >>> >>> The fuel line (metal line from the tank) in my '66 measures 0.265 >>> inches OD; the brake lines measure 0.195 inches OD. All lines are >>> original. >>> >>> The rubber fuel line from the filter to the pump is 5/16-inch ID, and >>> the rubber line from the pump to the carbs is 1/4-inch ID. Why the >>> difference, I have no clue. From ljordan704 at netscape.net Mon Feb 23 20:04:15 2009 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:04:15 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Line size In-Reply-To: <415BD714A0F84EE6B10E4886319B72C6@gaxp1> References: <49A1D044.5000100@socal.rr.com><59D6179B1C014CC1BA132AD9BEEA5238@gaxp1><49A242BA.9070003@socal.rr.com> <005401c995b1$253d1580$6fb74080$@net> <415BD714A0F84EE6B10E4886319B72C6@gaxp1> Message-ID: <8CB6443B5EF84C6-BCC-1515@webmail-de21.sysops.aol.com> Throw into the mix that I was told the 2000 fuel pump has a different inlet size than the 1600 pump. Anyone care to verify? Linda -----Original Message----- From: Gary and Cindy Ault To: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net>; 'Eddie' Cc: 'Datsun Roadster List' Sent: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 6:30 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel Line size Paul,? ? Gasoline is essentially incompressible, so the fuel pressure will not contribute to a difference in pressure loss upstream and downstream of the pump. Differences in fluid velocity will, but I doubt that the use of the same size line upstream and downstream of the pump will make any difference in fuel delivery. But then, I'm not the engineer who designed the system, so what do I know? Why the difference in line size? Beats me.? ? Gary? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net>? To: "'Eddie'" ; "'Gary and Cindy Ault'" ? Cc: "'Datsun Roadster List'" ? Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:20 AM? Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Fuel Line size? ? > The fuel from the tank to the pump is not under pressure so it requires a? > larger diameter. Past the pump, it's pressurized to the carbs.? >? > Paul (Just a guess?)? > Ohio? >? > -----Original Message-----? > On Behalf Of Eddie? >? > IT doesn't make much sense to have varying thicknesses in the fuel line,? > because the least sized section determines the MOST amount of fuel flow.? >? > But, thanks for the info. Do you have the metal line measurements in? > fractions?? >? > Eddie? >? > Gary and Cindy Ault wrote:? >> Eddie,? >>? >> The fuel line (metal line from the tank) in my '66 measures 0.265? >> inches OD; the brake lines measure 0.195 inches OD. All lines are? >> original.? >>? >> The rubber fuel line from the filter to the pump is 5/16-inch ID, and? >> the rubber line from the pump to the carbs is 1/4-inch ID. Why the? >> difference, I have no clue.? >>? >> Gary? ________________________________________? Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? ? You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net? ? Datsun-roadsters mailing list? ? http://www.team.net/archive? ? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters? From jeffzster at yahoo.com Mon Feb 23 22:11:44 2009 From: jeffzster at yahoo.com (Jeff Torres) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:11:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] SOlvang STuff Message-ID: <904023.91264.qm@web110412.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hello All!, Hopefully this gets through! I just wanted everyone to know that registration for the Solvang Datsun Roadster Classic is in full swing and that I will be updating the web site every monday morning....I'll try to at least! But for sure, every Monday sometime. I want to encourage everyone who is planning on attending the meet to register as soon as possible. It seriously helps with planning and putting on a good show! Thanks alot and remember to visit the show site at www.solvangshow.com !!! Jeff T. From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 24 08:59:50 2009 From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 07:59:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] R16 Engine/parts Message-ID: <147124.15504.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Fellas, Saw this on Craigslist this morning. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/pts/1047873288.html From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com Tue Feb 24 17:31:23 2009 From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:31:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Message-ID: <820373.59684.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hi everyone does anyone have a good used (is there another kind?) 2000 radiator with which they want to part? i'm in los angeles steve 675MIZU From vulforge at aol.com Wed Feb 25 12:51:59 2009 From: vulforge at aol.com (vulforge at aol.com) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:51:59 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 radiator Message-ID: <8CB6599A7BAC076-F00-12E7@webmail-de09.sysops.aol.com> "is there another kind?"? Sure, all you need is the tanks, and any competent radiator shop will put in new cores. Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1046 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com From tputland at charter.net Wed Feb 25 13:36:59 2009 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:36:59 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 radiator In-Reply-To: <8CB6599A7BAC076-F00-12E7@webmail-de09.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20090225153659.QYJ2Z.167654.root@mp05> Just make sure you get a three row core if you go this route. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- vulforge at aol.com wrote: ============= "is there another kind?"? Sure, all you need is the tanks, and any competent radiator shop will put in new cores. Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1046 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com You are subscribed as tputland at charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From KCook94722 at aol.com Wed Feb 25 13:50:25 2009 From: KCook94722 at aol.com (KCook94722 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:50:25 EST Subject: [Roadsters] misc. parts needed Message-ID: Misc. parts needed for 69 2000. Window guide channel, vertical channel located near door latch. Drivers side. Shifter hole cover plate, OK if vinyl is peeling. I striped mine of the vinyl and polished it and it turned out very nice, but mine has a slight crease in it. Would like one that is straight. Headlight switch knob. Turn signal/high beam switch assembly. Hood release cable assembly. Also, I have LOTS of misc. parts around from the many roadsters I have owned over the last 15 years. E-mail me if you are looking for anything in particular. Most parts can be had for shipping costs as I like to do my part to keep us all on the road. Been a LONG COLD winter. COME ON SPRING! Ken Cook **************You're invited to Hollywood's biggest party: Get Oscars updates, red carpet pics and more at Moviefone. (http://movies.aol.com/oscars-academy-awards?ncid=emlcntusmovi00000001) From jeffzster at yahoo.com Wed Feb 25 16:44:18 2009 From: jeffzster at yahoo.com (Jeff Torres) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:44:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang Housekeeping Info Message-ID: <806963.73554.qm@web110408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> To All: A couple of things about the registration page of the Solvang Web site. Some how an older version of the registration page got inserted into the web upload and gave some erroneous prices. I was notified last nite about the problem and corrected it today. 1. The price for the BBQ/Banquet is $17 per person, not $16 2. There were also a couple of wrong prices on the webs site for merchandise which have been corrected 3. Also, there was a suggestion that I place a "club affiliation" line on the registration. This has been added to the current registration. If you registered prior to this new "info line" I will find out from you later who you are affiliated with and note it. Couldn't hurt to find out who is representing!!! The current website is all fixed and good. If you registered and sent in a registration form with last years prices, I will honor those registrations. The current is now in effect! Thanks!! Jeff T. From wrenchorhammer at live.com Wed Feb 25 17:34:07 2009 From: wrenchorhammer at live.com (Jim In Virginia) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:34:07 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Line size In-Reply-To: <415BD714A0F84EE6B10E4886319B72C6@gaxp1> References: <49A1D044.5000100@socal.rr.com> <59D6179B1C014CC1BA132AD9BEEA5238@gaxp1> <49A242BA.9070003@socal.rr.com> <005401c995b1$253d1580$6fb74080$@net> <415BD714A0F84EE6B10E4886319B72C6@gaxp1> Message-ID: I think since fuel is being lifted out of the tank by suction (drawing a vacuum), that it is good engineering practice to size the suction line a size bigger than the pressure line, to ensure enough fuel will be present at the inlet of the pump to avoid vapor lock or pump cavitation problems under high demand conditions. No matter if its gas, oil, or water or some other liquid, pumps drawing on anything needing suction lift usually have the suction line bigger. I can get out my engineering rule of thumb equations and try to prove it mathamatically, but "good engineering practice" is a lot easier. Best Regards, Jim Chesapeake Virginia > From: aultgc at att.net > To: 9laser3 at bright.net; eddietude at socal.rr.com > Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:30:21 -0600 > CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel Line size > > Paul, > > Gasoline is essentially incompressible, so the fuel pressure will not > contribute to a difference in pressure loss upstream and downstream of the > pump. Differences in fluid velocity will, but I doubt that the use of the > same size line upstream and downstream of the pump will make any difference > in fuel delivery. But then, I'm not the engineer who designed the system, > so what do I know? Why the difference in line size? Beats me. > > Gary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net> > To: "'Eddie'" ; "'Gary and Cindy Ault'" > > Cc: "'Datsun Roadster List'" > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:20 AM > Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Fuel Line size > > > > The fuel from the tank to the pump is not under pressure so it requires a > > larger diameter. Past the pump, it's pressurized to the carbs. > > > > Paul (Just a guess?) > > Ohio > > > > -----Original Message----- > > On Behalf Of Eddie > > > > IT doesn't make much sense to have varying thicknesses in the fuel line, > > because the least sized section determines the MOST amount of fuel flow. > > > > But, thanks for the info. Do you have the metal line measurements in > > fractions? > > > > Eddie > > > > Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > >> Eddie, > >> > >> The fuel line (metal line from the tank) in my '66 measures 0.265 > >> inches OD; the brake lines measure 0.195 inches OD. All lines are > >> original. > >> > >> The rubber fuel line from the filter to the pump is 5/16-inch ID, and > >> the rubber line from the pump to the carbs is 1/4-inch ID. Why the > >> difference, I have no clue. > >> > >> Gary > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wrenchorhammer at live.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Access your email online and on the go with Windows Live Hotmail. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_AE_Access_022009 From sumton at sbcglobal.net Thu Feb 26 16:34:36 2009 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:34:36 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] ealry 1600 trouble idling and running References: <20090113095426.VOURQ.2960114.root@mp18> Message-ID: <000401c9986a$cd575da0$8115a8c0@ranteer.local> Worked on the car some today - it was a totally gorgeous day here in Dallas. I think I have it running a little better, but I'm still confused. Or, I should say, it's confused and I don't know how to help it! Its sort of idles, then goes rough and dies. But its much, much better than before. Tried to get the points to open at the right spot. I think is something is really off. I've got the valves to open at top dead center for each piston, and the rotor to be in the right place. But it looks like the points are just in the wrong place. They are opening after the fact, so the spark is not what is should be. These pictures illustrate the various pieces all at top dead center. You can see the timing mark right at the first one (the angle makes it look wrong); the rotor pointing exactly to the #1 spark plug wire, but the points are just opening and the "bump" where it pushes the points apart to fire is in the wrong place. And I don't know how to adjust that, or how it got so far off. http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun/DSCN3609.JPG http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun/DSCN3610.JPG http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun/DSCN3611.JPG http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun/DSCN3612.JPG or go to www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun and scroll down to the bottom. thanks! From graemes at internode.on.net Thu Feb 26 17:14:31 2009 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:44:31 +1030 Subject: [Roadsters] ealry 1600 trouble idling and running In-Reply-To: <000401c9986a$cd575da0$8115a8c0@ranteer.local> References: <20090113095426.VOURQ.2960114.root@mp18> <000401c9986a$cd575da0$8115a8c0@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <273F18DFB8C74FF693BA6EF60596B3FA@desktop> >From what I can tell the points cam is indeed quite retarded if the engine is at TDC for #1. You will need to release the clamp[s] on the distributor housing and rotate the distributor body ANTI clock wise to ADVANCE the points cam relative to the rotor position. Make double sure the crank is at TDC or as your website comment says, ~15deg BTDC for cyl #1 on compression. Loosen and rotate the distributor body until the points just open. You can determine that by having the ignition ON and a 12V test lamp or Voltmeter across the points. When the points open, the lamp will light or the Voltmeter will indicate 12V. That should be close enough to run the engine. Final adjustment can be done with a timing light on #1 plug lead. Remember, there are TWO clamps on the distributor housing. One is a COARSE adjustment [where it attaches to the engine block], the pther is a FINE adjustment [where the graduated plate is]. Set it up with the coarse adjustment initially, then you can use the graduated plate and pointer to fine tune the timing. The plate and pointer will then indicate ADV or RET from this base setting. " These pictures illustrate the various pieces all at top dead center. You can see the timing mark right at the first one (the angle makes it look wrong); the rotor pointing exactly to the #1 spark plug wire, but the points are just opening and the "bump" where it pushes the points apart to fire is in the wrong place. And I don't know how to adjust that, or how it got so far off." From sumton at sbcglobal.net Thu Feb 26 19:03:11 2009 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:03:11 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] ealry 1600 trouble idling and running References: <20090113095426.VOURQ.2960114.root@mp18> <000401c9986a$cd575da0$8115a8c0@ranteer.local> <273F18DFB8C74FF693BA6EF60596B3FA@desktop> Message-ID: <000a01c9987f$8ca7b740$8115a8c0@ranteer.local> hi. that helped. i uploaded some more pictures (www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun) . it kind of runs now, but a bit roughly. i think there are only two places to adjust; the fine adjust you spoke of, and the other is not where the stalk meets the block but at the base of the active part of the dizzy. am i missing something? another kind fellow suggested that the points are in need of replacement, so i shall do that as well. thanks for your help. any other advice? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graeme" To: "'oliver'" ; "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 6:14 PM Subject: RE: [Roadsters] ealry 1600 trouble idling and running > From what I can tell the points cam is indeed quite retarded if the engine > is at TDC for #1. > You will need to release the clamp[s] on the distributor housing and > rotate > the distributor body ANTI clock wise to ADVANCE the points cam relative to > the rotor position. > Make double sure the crank is at TDC or as your website comment says, > ~15deg > BTDC for cyl #1 on compression. > Loosen and rotate the distributor body until the points just open. > You can determine that by having the ignition ON and a 12V test lamp or > Voltmeter across the points. > When the points open, the lamp will light or the Voltmeter will indicate > 12V. > That should be close enough to run the engine. > Final adjustment can be done with a timing light on #1 plug lead. > Remember, there are TWO clamps on the distributor housing. > One is a COARSE adjustment [where it attaches to the engine block], the > pther is a FINE adjustment [where the graduated plate is]. > Set it up with the coarse adjustment initially, then you can use the > graduated plate and pointer to fine tune the timing. > The plate and pointer will then indicate ADV or RET from this base > setting. > > " These pictures illustrate the various pieces all at top dead center. > You > can see the timing mark right at the first one (the angle makes it look > wrong); the rotor pointing exactly to the #1 spark plug wire, but the > points > are just opening and the "bump" where it pushes the points apart to fire > is > in the wrong place. And I don't know how to adjust that, or how it got so > far off." From larrybraddock at ca.rr.com Thu Feb 26 21:10:10 2009 From: larrybraddock at ca.rr.com (Larry Braddock) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:10:10 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 harmonic balancer Message-ID: <71FCB593A27C4310BA091DB4538ED46E@owner4d7e0adce> My harmonic balancer on my 2000 split apart. Any way to rebuild these or other solutions better than buying a new one? Larry From edmitche at gmail.com Fri Feb 27 06:04:48 2009 From: edmitche at gmail.com (Ed Mitchell) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 06:04:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Parts is Parts Message-ID: <49a7e4f1.1b068e0a.34c1.0d3f@mx.google.com> Hi All. Hope everyone is doing well I'm Looking for a few small parts I have a 1967.5 spl311 1600 Datsun Roadster.entering the final phase of a 2+ year restore I'm needing a replacement 1. A Heat shield. that rides under the carburetors.mine is rusty and crusty...and I'm not sure what it originally looked like so I can try and build one. 2. the small cable clip that holds down the accelerator cable to the car body.thinking the part number is 18021-12300 (not sure 'cause my pdf is fuzzy)(I tried making one...but do to a lack of metallurgist and blacksmithing skills.) 3. Wiper Blade Arms.a good replacement recommendation 4. and a dash mount rear view mirror.or recommendation on a good off brand that isn't chrome Thanks for any and all help\recommendations Ed Mitchell Las Cruces, NM 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 http://www.ziaroc.com/ http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG <--Dead Betty : ) From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri Feb 27 13:00:39 2009 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:00:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] ealry 1600 trouble idling and running In-Reply-To: <000a01c9987f$8ca7b740$8115a8c0@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <582941811.3328011235764839438.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Excellent idea.....as long as the replacement is an EI dizzy. Points = PITA Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "oliver" To: "Graeme" Cc: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 6:03:11 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ealry 1600 trouble idling and running [snip] another kind fellow suggested that the points are in need of replacement, so i shall do that as well. From KCook94722 at aol.com Fri Feb 27 13:44:45 2009 From: KCook94722 at aol.com (KCook94722 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:44:45 EST Subject: [Roadsters] To Craig Halstead Message-ID: Craig, accidentally deleted your reply about misc parts needed.Saw your address, but hit the wrong key and didnt open the e-mail. DUH! How ya been?! I recently purchased one of my old roadsters back.Sold it ten years ago to my younger brother and purchased it from his estate when he passed away in Oct.A wonderful car and couldnt stand the thought of his pride and joy going to a stranger. Besides my personal restoration, its the nicest roadster ive owned. Hope you and yours are all well. Ken **************You're invited to Hollywood's biggest party: Get Oscars updates, red carpet pics and more at Moviefone. (http://movies.aol.com/oscars-academy-awards?ncid=emlcntusmovi00000001) From gboone70 at yahoo.com Fri Feb 27 22:54:46 2009 From: gboone70 at yahoo.com (Gary Boone) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:54:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] fuse box cover clip Message-ID: <77718.89292.qm@web36305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I need the clip that makes the fuse box cover snap into the fuse box. This is for a late model roadster, mine is a '70 year. It's the clip that is on the inner side of the button that you push to make it lock into the fuse box. Anyone have one to sell? Gary From eddietude at socal.rr.com Sat Feb 28 01:31:38 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 00:31:38 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Manifold Stud Questions Message-ID: <49A8F66A.7080306@socal.rr.com> Hi guys, Found something that strikes me as weird, and wanted to know what the deal is. I've got 3 engine heads for a 1600 Datsun Roadster. (Have one car, a parts car, and part of a 3rd parts car) 1 is a cast iron head, (my roadster had a forklift motor in it when I bought it. Yup, with the forklift cam, oil pan, everything...some bonehead literally dropped a forklift motor in the car without making ANY changes at all to it. Duh.) 2 are Aluminum heads. The cast iron head uses 5/16 x 18 studs for the exhaust/intake manifolds ONE of my aluminum heads uses the same size English bolts. my OTHER aluminum head takes 8mm x 1.25 studs. Is this normal? Were some of these metric while others were English? Also, I took the water pump off of my spare car, and found a 1" thick aluminum "spacer block/plate" between the pump and the engine. My other 2 motors did NOT have that, and the book doesn't show one. What's the story on that? My questions are more out of curiosity than anything else, but I would like to know what's up with this stuff... Thanks. Eddie From lars.tungen at abaris.no Sat Feb 28 06:10:05 2009 From: lars.tungen at abaris.no (Lars Tungen) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:10:05 +0100 Subject: [Roadsters] Manifold Stud Questions In-Reply-To: <49A8F66A.7080306@socal.rr.com> References: <49A8F66A.7080306@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <000c01c999a5$e4ac7210$ae055630$@tungen@abaris.no> > ONE of my aluminum heads uses the same size English bolts. > my OTHER aluminum head takes 8mm x 1.25 studs. > Is this normal? Were some of these metric while others were English? I think the metric variant of the aluminum head was introduced with engine number R-40001 (1967.5 roadster). -- Lars Tungen Norway From ronnie.day at gmail.com Sat Feb 28 07:39:35 2009 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:39:35 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] fuse box cover clip In-Reply-To: <77718.89292.qm@web36305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <77718.89292.qm@web36305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2faaebf80902280639q76fd19fdk336db2742ffe9c01@mail.gmail.com> Hi Gary, They're used for a lot of applications including other cars and electronics. Check out an electronic supply place like Altex or a store like Fry's. I'll dig around in my 510 list archive and see if I can't come up with the Toyota/Lexus part number that one of those guys posted. I know there are a bunch on our Honda van, so you might just take the fuse box cover to your local Honda parts department and see if they can't help you out. They might even be available at an auto parts store as part of the "Help" parts line. Did a quick search and here's a link (http://tinyurl.com/cskfnx) to a pic of the Lexus/Toyota parts bag. Part number is 90467-08119. Ron On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Gary Boone wrote: > I need the clip that makes the fuse box cover snap into the fuse box. B This is for a late model roadster, mine is a '70 year. B It's the clip that is on the inner side of the button that you push to make it lock into the fuse box. > > Anyone have one to sell? > Gary > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net B http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ronnie.day at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- Ron From fred.davidson at sympatico.ca Sat Feb 28 08:07:27 2009 From: fred.davidson at sympatico.ca (FRED DAVIDSON) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:07:27 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 harmonic balancer In-Reply-To: <71FCB593A27C4310BA091DB4538ED46E@owner4d7e0adce> Message-ID: Hi Larry: I know that Dale Manufacturing has rebuilt roadster harmonic balancers. I have no direct experience with them though. http://www.dalemfg.com Fred ______________________________________________________________ From: "Larry Braddock" To: Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 harmonic balancer Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:10:10 -0800 >My harmonic balancer on my 2000 split apart. Any way to rebuild these or other >solutions better than buying a new one? >Larry >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as fred.davidson at sympatico.ca > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From bubwin at mts.net Sat Feb 28 13:38:17 2009 From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:38:17 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Parts is Parts In-Reply-To: <49a7e4f1.1b068e0a.34c1.0d3f@mx.google.com> References: <49a7e4f1.1b068e0a.34c1.0d3f@mx.google.com> Message-ID: I replaced a missing wiper arm on my 66' 1600 with one off a Jeep CJ7. Same length but the end where the blade attaches is straight (pronounced more common blades) not hooked. Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender 1972-510 Daisy 1972-510 Spare Change ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Mitchell" To: Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 7:04 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Parts is Parts > Hi All. > > > > Hope everyone is doing well > > > > I'm Looking for a few small parts > > > > I have a 1967.5 spl311 1600 Datsun Roadster.entering the final phase of a > 2+ > year restore > > > > I'm needing a replacement > > 1. A Heat shield. that rides under the carburetors.mine is rusty and > crusty...and I'm not sure what it originally looked like so I can try and > build one. > 2. the small cable clip that holds down the accelerator cable to the > car body.thinking the part number is 18021-12300 (not sure 'cause my > pdf is fuzzy)(I tried making one...but do to a lack of metallurgist and > blacksmithing skills.) > 3. Wiper Blade Arms.a good replacement recommendation > 4. and a dash mount rear view mirror.or recommendation on a good off > brand that isn't chrome > > > > > > Thanks for any and all help\recommendations > > > > Ed Mitchell > > Las Cruces, NM > > 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 > > http://www.ziaroc.com/ > > http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG <--Dead Betty : ) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin at mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From stevenehlers at charter.net Sat Feb 28 14:11:35 2009 From: stevenehlers at charter.net (Steve Ehlers) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:11:35 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] misc. parts needed Message-ID: <49A9A887.6020006@charter.net> Hi Ken, I have ALL of these parts Used and some NOS . I know for sure I have the window guides NOS with or without channel felt . I don't need anymore used parts ,unless you have a Mint or perfect set of 67 - 70 rear quarter side moldings. Steve Ehlers www.risingsunperformance.com From stevenehlers at charter.net Sat Feb 28 14:27:26 2009 From: stevenehlers at charter.net (Steve Ehlers) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:27:26 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 trouble idling and running Message-ID: <49A9AC3E.9000308@charter.net> Hey Oliver , When you decide to seek professional help and Repair ,let me know . I have owned and worked with Datsun Roadsters for over 35 years . My shop in Ft Worth ,Rising Sun Performance ,has been in business over 30 years as a Datsun /Nissan and Z car Specialty shop .I am the ONLY Datsun independent shop in the State of Texas with credentials ,experience ,Parts , and personal knowledge ,of Datsun Roadsters that I know of ,that has ever existed ! Give me a call sometime and maybe I can help you . BTW , Did Charlie Fleming ever help you with this car ? Steve Ehlers www.risingsunperformance.com From eddietude at socal.rr.com Sat Feb 28 14:57:45 2009 From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:57:45 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Manifold Stud Questions In-Reply-To: <49A8F66A.7080306@socal.rr.com> References: <49A8F66A.7080306@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <49A9B359.2090707@socal.rr.com> Hey everyone, Thanks for all the info. So, it seems that pre-1967.5 motors were SAE, and post 1967.5 were metric. Funny thing is, this engine is in a 1966. Ok, so the next question is this: Can a METRIC head be used on an SAE block? Or were the blocks all the same? (except of course the R-16/ H20 differences) If I can use the head, I'll save it. Otherwise, I'll get it cleaned up to make sure it's good and then I'll sell it. Eddie Eddie wrote: > Hi guys, > > Found something that strikes me as weird, and wanted to know what the > deal is. > > I've got 3 engine heads for a 1600 Datsun Roadster. (Have one car, a > parts car, and part of a 3rd parts car) > > 1 is a cast iron head, (my roadster had a forklift motor in it when I > bought it. Yup, with the forklift cam, oil pan, everything...some > bonehead literally dropped a forklift motor in the car without making > ANY changes at all to it. Duh.) > > 2 are Aluminum heads. > > The cast iron head uses 5/16 x 18 studs for the exhaust/intake manifolds > > ONE of my aluminum heads uses the same size English bolts. > > my OTHER aluminum head takes 8mm x 1.25 studs. > > Is this normal? Were some of these metric while others were English? > > Also, I took the water pump off of my spare car, and found a 1" thick > aluminum "spacer block/plate" between the pump and the engine. My > other 2 motors did NOT have that, and the book doesn't show one. > > What's the story on that? > > My questions are more out of curiosity than anything else, but I would > like to know what's up with this stuff... > > Thanks. > > Eddie > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From Keith0alan at aol.com Sat Feb 28 15:50:29 2009 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:50:29 EST Subject: [Roadsters] Manifold Stud Questions Message-ID: The heads can be and often were interchanged. keith In a message dated 2/28/2009 1:58:40 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, eddietude at socal.rr.com writes: Hey everyone, Thanks for all the info. So, it seems that pre-1967.5 motors were SAE, and post 1967.5 were metric. Funny thing is, this engine is in a 1966. Ok, so the next question is this: Can a METRIC head be used on an SAE block? Or were the blocks all the same? (except of course the R-16/ H20 differences) If I can use the head, I'll save it. Otherwise, I'll get it cleaned up to make sure it's good and then I'll sell it. Eddie Eddie wrote: > Hi guys, > > Found something that strikes me as weird, and wanted to know what the > deal is. > > I've got 3 engine heads for a 1600 Datsun Roadster. (Have one car, a > parts car, and part of a 3rd parts car) > > 1 is a cast iron head, (my roadster had a forklift motor in it when I > bought it. Yup, with the forklift cam, oil pan, everything...some > bonehead literally dropped a forklift motor in the car without making > ANY changes at all to it. Duh.) > > 2 are Aluminum heads. > > The cast iron head uses 5/16 x 18 studs for the exhaust/intake manifolds > > ONE of my aluminum heads uses the same size English bolts. > > my OTHER aluminum head takes 8mm x 1.25 studs. > > Is this normal? Were some of these metric while others were English? > > Also, I took the water pump off of my spare car, and found a 1" thick > aluminum "spacer block/plate" between the pump and the engine. My > other 2 motors did NOT have that, and the book doesn't show one. > > What's the story on that? > > My questions are more out of curiosity than anything else, but I would > like to know what's up with this stuff... > > Thanks. > > Eddie > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude at socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as keith0alan at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! 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