From ericerichoffman at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  1 05:54:18 2009
From: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com (Eric Hoffman)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:54:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] spring picnic and drive with the Georgia Triumph
 Association this Saturday
Message-ID: <889214.56692.qm@web36901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
 
www.gatriumph.com calendar section

From pat at hornesystemstx.com  Wed Apr  1 08:04:53 2009
From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:04:53 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 68-70 R16 Water Pump Blues
In-Reply-To: <8CB808E22C8A830-1618-1E52@webmail-mg10.sysops.aol.com>
References: <C17D15BF41294649AEFB3602E2273144@delled48909442><296147.93342.qm@web54111.mail.re2.yahoo.com><COL116-W16297E498B5D7D8E348B99AC8A0@phx.gbl><49D2CCEB.6080300@hornesystemstx.com>
	<9A10DEAA8C4548209EF5FCFAC73B2638@xp>
	<8CB808E22C8A830-1618-1E52@webmail-mg10.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <49D38295.6000300@hornesystemstx.com>

As I recall I needed to change the length of one of the bolts that hold 
the pump to the block. I have pictures of the difference somewhere, but 
I can't find them right now. I'll keep looking.

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake ljordan704 at netscape.net, On 3/31/2009 10:07 PM:
>  I think I read somewhere about the forklift warer pump, but that you might have to change something on it...
> I'd find a forklift supply place and bring yours in to get the right part.
> Linda
>
>
>  
>
>
>  
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
> To: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 8:00 pm
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 68-70 R16 Water Pump Blues
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I just plugged in the following part number from the Online Parts Catalog to
> ForkLiftPartsSupply.com
>
> <http://www.forkliftpartssupply.com/home.aspx?Page=Parts:> and found:
>
> Nissan (Datsun) 21010-78226 PUMP - WATER    $39.20 
>
> Now, there are 16 part numbers listed for 'WATER PUMP W/FAN CLUTCH & GASKET'
> (2 SAE, 14 Metric), so I'm not positive which one is correct, but the point
> is that it's a much cheaper alternative and it's still Nissan. 
>
>
> Pete
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pat Horne
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 7:10 PM
> To: Eric Gillis
> Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 68-70 R16 Water Pump Blues
>
> Eric,
>
> Take your pump to a forklift shop and see if they can match the pump to one
> on a Nissan forklift with an H20 engine. I did that several years ago and
> got an exact match. As I recall it cost me under $50.
>
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From jeffzster at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  1 10:02:59 2009
From: jeffzster at yahoo.com (Jeff Torres)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:02:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for Keith WIlliams
Message-ID: <783694.20849.qm@web110405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hey Keith.
 
If yer out there please contact me off list @ jtorres67 at wildblue.net
 
Jeff T.
 
Lemoore, CA

From jeffzster at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  1 10:34:43 2009
From: jeffzster at yahoo.com (Jeff Torres)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:34:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Original paint Color Samples
Message-ID: <830611.33199.qm@web110402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hey All,
 
Using the "pantone" color chart, does anyone know what color code Sora blue
would ber?Or has anyone possibly used this color chart to match up any of the
original paint colors for the Roadster? Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks!!!

From mark at dealermats.com  Wed Apr  1 11:58:32 2009
From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:58:32 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Original paint Color Samples
In-Reply-To: <830611.33199.qm@web110402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <830611.33199.qm@web110402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <795B93A5-B255-4C26-850E-D44F375D973C@dealermats.com>

Original color chart here:

http://www.tcpglobal.com/aclchip.aspx?image=1967-datsun-pg01.jpg



Mark




On Apr 1, 2009, at 1:34 PM, Jeff Torres wrote:

> Hey All,
>
> Using the "pantone" color chart, does anyone know what color code  
> Sora blue
> would ber?Or has anyone possibly used this color chart to match up  
> any of the
> original paint colors for the Roadster? Any info would be appreciated.
> Thanks!!!
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From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  1 12:23:16 2009
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:23:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
Message-ID: <443442.5955.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

hi everyone
is there a source for longer wheel studs?  i would like to add some spacers to the rear, to increase the track about 2 inches, and push the tires to the edge of the fender.  any thoughts?
thanks in advance
steve
675MIZU

From andycost at embarqmail.com  Wed Apr  1 13:48:56 2009
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Embarq Customer)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:48:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <443442.5955.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <14917842.1735161238618936936.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com>

You can buy spacers that have studs in them.  Usually they are for adapting one bolt pattern to another but they also come with the same bolt pattern.  It shouldn't be hard to find them on ebay 114.3 to 114.3 1" thick wheel adaptors.  It is a pain to install studs as long as you are asking for in the rear because the brake backing plate is in the way.  You have to drill a hole in the backing plate to slide the stud through or you have to remove the collar, bearing, and backing plate.  It would be easier to either buy new wheels with the correct offset or buy the adaptors.  I have been using the adaptors on a 3000 pound mustang autocross car with 11" slicks for two years with no problems. 

Andy


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To: "roadsters" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 2:23:16 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)

hi everyone
is there a source for longer wheel studs?  i would like to add some spacers to the rear, to increase the track about 2 inches, and push the tires to the edge of the fender.  any thoughts?
thanks in advance
steve
675MIZU
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From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net  Wed Apr  1 16:38:04 2009
From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 17:38:04 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
Message-ID: <380-2200943123384693@earthlink.net>

 Steven, check "Wheel Components" online.  I think I bought my spacers from
them.  I used 1/8" spacers to get the inside edge of the tire away from the
frame.  This put the 205/55/14 tires right up against the outside fender. 
2" is a lot, good luck.  Dewey     

> [Original Message]
> From: steven boortz <vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com>
> To: roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Date: 4/1/2009 1:23:16 PM
> Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
>
> hi everyone
> is there a source for longer wheel studs?  i would like to add some
spacers to the rear, to increase the track about 2 inches, and push the
tires to the edge of the fender.  any thoughts?
> thanks in advance
> steve
> 675MIZU
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From tputland at charter.net  Wed Apr  1 17:27:30 2009
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 17:27:30 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] aren't these early truck hubcaps?
Message-ID: <20090401202730.CQ4GO.130997.root@mp13>

Some one clarify this for me please....

Ebay item 260384255426. 

Has this style ever been "stock" on a Roadster? Or weren't these used on Datsun trucks? And either way, can someone tell me the years these were used? 

Thanks

Tim

From mark at dealermats.com  Wed Apr  1 17:32:00 2009
From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:32:00 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] aren't these early truck hubcaps?
In-Reply-To: <20090401202730.CQ4GO.130997.root@mp13>
References: <20090401202730.CQ4GO.130997.root@mp13>
Message-ID: <009C8C7C-96AF-42D7-920A-FA219EB40639@dealermats.com>

320 truck hubcaps, all years.  62-65



On Apr 1, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Tim wrote:

> 260384255426

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Apr  1 20:05:22 2009
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:05:22 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Arcata 2009 All Datsun Driving Weekend Info
Message-ID: <BCDF20ECBA1E41C9A3FA548AA5C201A4@xp>

>From the Bluebirds list.....

  _____  

From: bluebirds-request at bluebirds.datsun510.com
[mailto:bluebirds-request at bluebirds.datsun510.com] On Behalf Of Derek
Garnier
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 7:13 PM
To: 'Bluebirds datsun'
Subject: Arcata 2009 All Datsun Driving Weekend Info



Check out http://datsun510.com/ for a listing of all the info needed for the
weekend. I'll be adding to this page as another 510 nut has stepped up to
lead the caravan from Portland to Arcata. You've got almost 5 months' notice
to get your cars road worthy. If you like to drive your Datsun in the most
beautiful canyon, coastal, mountain, and forest surroundings, this is
definitely for you. You'll know if you are really going once you make your
hotel reservations. At that point, feel free to drop me a note and let me
know.

 

Also, as this is open to all Datsuns (40% of last year was Z cars), feel
free to post this information to other Datsun groups.

 

Thanks, 

 

Derek the Bluebirds list admin

From tomuo at comcast.net  Wed Apr  1 20:06:46 2009
From: tomuo at comcast.net (Tom Duffy)
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:06:46 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] aren't these early truck hubcaps?
In-Reply-To: <20090401202730.CQ4GO.130997.root@mp13>
References: <20090401202730.CQ4GO.130997.root@mp13>
Message-ID: <49D42BC6.7020601@comcast.net>

These look exactly like the ones on my '68 Roadster, I have no reason to 
believe mine
aren't the original ones.

Tom.

Tim wrote:
> Some one clarify this for me please....
>
> Ebay item 260384255426. 
>
> Has this style ever been "stock" on a Roadster? Or weren't these used on Datsun trucks? And either way, can someone tell me the years these were used? 
>
> Thanks

From jover4x4 at aol.com  Wed Apr  1 21:23:31 2009
From: jover4x4 at aol.com (jover4x4 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 00:23:31 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] aren't these early truck hubcaps?
In-Reply-To: <49D42BC6.7020601@comcast.net>
References: <20090401202730.CQ4GO.130997.root@mp13>
	<49D42BC6.7020601@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <8CB8161EA2B43D9-C2C-2D6D@mblk-d12.sysops.aol.com>

These caps?were also found on 520, 521 and 620 trucks.? They are definitely truck caps and NOT original to Roadsters.

John Over
www.wycroc.org


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Duffy <tomuo at comcast.net>
To: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
Cc: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 9:06 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] aren't these early truck hubcaps?


These look exactly like the ones on my '68 Roadster, I have no reason to believe mine?
aren't the original ones.?
?
Tom.?
?
Tim wrote:?
> Some one clarify this for me please....?
>?
> Ebay item 260384255426. >?
> Has this style ever been "stock" on a Roadster? Or weren't these used on Datsun trucks? And either way, can someone tell me the years these were used? >?
> Thanks?
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From aultgc at att.net  Wed Apr  1 21:29:32 2009
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 23:29:32 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] aren't these early truck hubcaps?
References: <20090401202730.CQ4GO.130997.root@mp13>
	<49D42BC6.7020601@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <D0A7E57E1F154502A18845614E158B91@gaxp1>

Tom,

Sorry, but these look a lot like the hub caps I bought ~25 years ago to 
replace my originals.  I understood at the time that they were from a 
similar vintage truck, but they weren't dinged up like one of my originals, 
so I used them until I put Panasports on the car.

(I still have the originals.)

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Duffy" <tomuo at comcast.net>
To: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>
Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] aren't these early truck hubcaps?


> These look exactly like the ones on my '68 Roadster, I have no reason to 
> believe mine
> aren't the original ones.
>
> Tom.
>
> Tim wrote:
>> Some one clarify this for me please....
>>
>> Ebay item 260384255426.
>> Has this style ever been "stock" on a Roadster? Or weren't these used on 
>> Datsun trucks? And either way, can someone tell me the years these were 
>> used?
>> Thanks
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From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Wed Apr  1 21:35:59 2009
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:35:59 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] aren't these early truck hubcaps?
In-Reply-To: <D0A7E57E1F154502A18845614E158B91@gaxp1>
References: <20090401202730.CQ4GO.130997.root@mp13>
	<49D42BC6.7020601@comcast.net>
	<D0A7E57E1F154502A18845614E158B91@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <49D440AF.4060900@sbcglobal.net>

I saved the hubcaps off of my PL521 truck (1970) before it was hauled to 
the wrecking yard 15 years ago because they were exactly the same as the 
hubcaps on my SRL311 Roadster. I have never checked part numbers or 
anything, but they look the same and they fit the same.

I even have three brand new ones in still in the box.

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

Gary and Cindy Ault wrote:
> Tom,
>
> Sorry, but these look a lot like the hub caps I bought ~25 years ago 
> to replace my originals.  I understood at the time that they were from 
> a similar vintage truck, but they weren't dinged up like one of my 
> originals, so I used them until I put Panasports on the car.
>
> (I still have the originals.)
>
> Gary
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Duffy" <tomuo at comcast.net>
> To: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>
> Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 10:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] aren't these early truck hubcaps?
>
>
>> These look exactly like the ones on my '68 Roadster, I have no reason 
>> to believe mine
>> aren't the original ones.
>>
>> Tom.
>>
>> Tim wrote:
>>> Some one clarify this for me please....
>>>
>>> Ebay item 260384255426.
>>> Has this style ever been "stock" on a Roadster? Or weren't these 
>>> used on Datsun trucks? And either way, can someone tell me the years 
>>> these were used?
>>> Thanks
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From tomuo at comcast.net  Wed Apr  1 21:45:55 2009
From: tomuo at comcast.net (Tom Duffy)
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:45:55 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] aren't these early truck hubcaps?
In-Reply-To: <D0A7E57E1F154502A18845614E158B91@gaxp1>
References: <20090401202730.CQ4GO.130997.root@mp13>
	<49D42BC6.7020601@comcast.net>
	<D0A7E57E1F154502A18845614E158B91@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <49D44303.5050900@comcast.net>

Darn, there is so much else original on this roadster, it seemed 
inconceivable that
they weren't original.    California Black plates are the bit I'm most 
proud of.
1970s Frantz/ /"toilet roll" secondary oil filter is the thing I'm least 
proud of (removed now)

Is this a Roadster with original caps?
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/post-your-photos/26136-all-classic-japanese-car-bike-show.html

Is there documentation anywhere that proves that all years only came 
with the style
in the photo?

Tom.

Gary and Cindy Ault wrote:
> Tom,
>
> Sorry, but these look a lot like the hub caps I bought ~25 years ago 
> to replace my originals.  I understood at the time that they were from 
> a similar vintage truck, but they weren't dinged up like one of my 
> originals, so I used them until I put Panasports on the car.
>
> (I still have the originals.)
>
> Gary

From aultgc at att.net  Wed Apr  1 21:49:37 2009
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 23:49:37 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] aren't these early truck hubcaps?
References: <20090401202730.CQ4GO.130997.root@mp13><49D42BC6.7020601@comcast.net><D0A7E57E1F154502A18845614E158B91@gaxp1>
	<49D440AF.4060900@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <655E1DEB21A246799CEA510D6CC3CC2B@gaxp1>

Gary,

I put the truck caps alongside my originals, and the differences, though 
minor, are clear.  Since I bought my car in 1971 from the original owner, I 
am pretty confident that the caps on it were original.  And, I know what I 
bought as a replacement were from a truck, because the seller said so at the 
time.  (He could have gotten much more money for originals.)

Gary A

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary McCormick" <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net>
To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] aren't these early truck hubcaps?


>I saved the hubcaps off of my PL521 truck (1970) before it was hauled to 
>the wrecking yard 15 years ago because they were exactly the same as the 
>hubcaps on my SRL311 Roadster. I have never checked part numbers or 
>anything, but they look the same and they fit the same.
>
> I even have three brand new ones in still in the box.
>
> Gary McCormick
> San Jose, CA
>
> Gary and Cindy Ault wrote:
>> Tom,
>>
>> Sorry, but these look a lot like the hub caps I bought ~25 years ago to 
>> replace my originals.  I understood at the time that they were from a 
>> similar vintage truck, but they weren't dinged up like one of my 
>> originals, so I used them until I put Panasports on the car.
>>
>> (I still have the originals.)
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Duffy" <tomuo at comcast.net>
>> To: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>
>> Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 10:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] aren't these early truck hubcaps?
>>
>>
>>> These look exactly like the ones on my '68 Roadster, I have no reason to 
>>> believe mine
>>> aren't the original ones.
>>>
>>> Tom.
>>>
>>> Tim wrote:
>>>> Some one clarify this for me please....
>>>>
>>>> Ebay item 260384255426.
>>>> Has this style ever been "stock" on a Roadster? Or weren't these used 
>>>> on Datsun trucks? And either way, can someone tell me the years these 
>>>> were used?
>>>> Thanks
>>> ________________________________________
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Wed Apr  1 23:44:37 2009
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (Peter Harrison)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 23:44:37 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Need sway bar retainer
Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV3CA600FA13F7BCB0F65C9DF880@phx.gbl>

Hi
Quick request - going to have most of front suspension blasted and powder
coated on tuesday - just need the u-bracket that holds the sway bar - any one
have one that they can quickly get to me - one of mine has too mch road/kurb
rash

thx

peter

eliza currently no va - but working on the va

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Thu Apr  2 06:01:18 2009
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:01:18 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] aren't these early truck hubcaps?
Message-ID: <c87.4a8c42c6.3706111e@aol.com>

Nobody has mentioned what the difference is, so here it is. The center area
about two inches across on the roadster cap is raised. On the truck cap it is
flat. Other than that they are the same.

keith


In a message dated 4/1/2009 8:07:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
tomuo at comcast.net writes:

These  look exactly like the ones on my '68 Roadster, I have no reason to
believe  mine
aren't the original ones.

Tom.

Tim wrote:
> Some  one clarify this for me please....
>
> Ebay item 260384255426.
>
> Has this style ever been "stock" on a Roadster? Or weren't  these used on
Datsun trucks? And either way, can someone tell me the years  these were used?
>
>  Thanks
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From mikefaggart at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 08:29:51 2009
From: mikefaggart at gmail.com (Mike Faggart)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 11:29:51 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <443442.5955.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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try our vendors like CDM or any race product company.

mike faggart

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 3:23 PM, steven boortz <vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com
> wrote:

> hi everyone
> is there a source for longer wheel studs?  i would like to add some spacers
> to the rear, to increase the track about 2 inches, and push the tires to the
> edge of the fender.  any thoughts?
> thanks in advance
> steve
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From turbored at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 09:04:59 2009
From: turbored at gmail.com (turbored)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:04:59 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
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H&R makes a set too.
On Apr 2, 2009, at 8:29 AM, Mike Faggart wrote:

> try our vendors like CDM or any race product company.
>
> mike faggart
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 3:23 PM, steven boortz <vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com
>> wrote:
>
>> hi everyone
>> is there a source for longer wheel studs?  i would like to add some  
>> spacers
>> to the rear, to increase the track about 2 inches, and push the  
>> tires to the
>> edge of the fender.  any thoughts?
>> thanks in advance
>> steve
>> 675MIZU
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From rksmith46 at hotmail.com  Thu Apr  2 09:35:05 2009
From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 12:35:05 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <443442.5955.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <443442.5955.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY124-W3319E804AC919756FE2B8BBF880@phx.gbl>

hi steve, i have used up to 3/4" spacers(on each side)

 and  long tube nuts. the tube nut goes inside the spacer. be careful the tube
nut doesnt go thru the

wheel and spacer and bottom out before getting tight.

 ive autocrossed my roadster for years like that, and

have stock studs, with no stud failure, so far.

  good luck, bob smith, ohio.

> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:23:16 -0700
> From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
>
> hi everyone
> is there a source for longer wheel studs? i would like to add some spacers
to the rear, to increase the track about 2 inches, and push the tires to the
edge of the fender. any thoughts?
> thanks in advance
> steve
> 675MIZU
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Thu Apr  2 21:07:13 2009
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 21:07:13 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] stuck drums
In-Reply-To: <CE1C9C26CC18FD4E804F232CEC1F8451025E07C7@XMBTX132.northgrum.com>
References: <CE1C9C26CC18FD4E804F232CEC1F8451025E07C7@XMBTX132.northgrum.com>
Message-ID: <006001c9b411$abc5f210$0351d630$@net>

I finally heard back from my friend, who had been on vacation. It was
ammonia. It worked great for me.

Gordon Glasgow
-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of O'Farrell,
Fergus P (AS)
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 5:43 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stuck drums

Gordon wrote:  Re: [Roadsters] stuck drums
I ran into this a number of years ago and couldn't get it unstuck. Then
a friend suggested ...pouring some liquid between the drum and backing
plate. After marinating for a day or two, smacking the axle straight
down on the studs popped the drum right off.  Unfortunately I can't
remember what the liquid was. I keep thinking it was ammonia, but I'm
not sure.

I suspect it was vinegar (aka: acetic acid), ya know, the same thing
used to un-gunk the built up minerals in your coffee maker, and
showerhead.  I shy away from all chemical-speak (got thru chem class,
but swore I'd never re-visit that subject), but the oxidation of
aluminum/steel dissimilar metals mix has me betting it was that.

Along those lines, that CLR (calcium, lime, rust) cleaner product may be
one to try, although Andy's suggestion of really good alignment and a
BFH has a lot of merit as well.

Fergus O
69 2000 (made a plaster splash of the Ford emblem on my kluge grille,
buying casting resin today, so hopefully will have another "unique
detail" soon)
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From tumorrow at msn.com  Fri Apr  3 02:38:13 2009
From: tumorrow at msn.com (BRAD MORROW)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 05:38:13 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Tappets
Message-ID: <BAY110-DS3DA01C8FE01D517306263DE890@phx.gbl>

Anyone have step-by-step instructions on how to adjust tappets on an SPL311
roadster?

From boakes at gmail.com  Fri Apr  3 04:38:59 2009
From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:38:59 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] stuck drums
In-Reply-To: <006001c9b411$abc5f210$0351d630$@net>
References: <CE1C9C26CC18FD4E804F232CEC1F8451025E07C7@XMBTX132.northgrum.com>
	<006001c9b411$abc5f210$0351d630$@net>
Message-ID: <3ad057d60904030438x5bbc4486oc02e8c157452451a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

that was a great string of messages - everything from brute force exercises,
to science experiments.

I finally sprung them loose with a week of marinating in Kroil (great stuff)
and a heavy hammer and chisel on the inside of the drum. They were well
cemented to the hub.

If you're curious, the last 4 pix in the album show the results:
http://picasaweb.google.com/boakes/RoadsterBlack#

Thanks all.

-bill

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>wrote:

> I finally heard back from my friend, who had been on vacation. It was
> ammonia. It worked great for me.
>
> Gordon Glasgow
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of O'Farrell,
> Fergus P (AS)
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 5:43 AM
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stuck drums
>
> Gordon wrote:  Re: [Roadsters] stuck drums
> I ran into this a number of years ago and couldn't get it unstuck. Then
> a friend suggested ...pouring some liquid between the drum and backing
> plate. After marinating for a day or two, smacking the axle straight
> down on the studs popped the drum right off.  Unfortunately I can't
> remember what the liquid was. I keep thinking it was ammonia, but I'm
> not sure.
>
> I suspect it was vinegar (aka: acetic acid), ya know, the same thing
> used to un-gunk the built up minerals in your coffee maker, and
> showerhead.  I shy away from all chemical-speak (got thru chem class,
> but swore I'd never re-visit that subject), but the oxidation of
> aluminum/steel dissimilar metals mix has me betting it was that.
>
> Along those lines, that CLR (calcium, lime, rust) cleaner product may be
> one to try, although Andy's suggestion of really good alignment and a
> BFH has a lot of merit as well.
>
> Fergus O
> 69 2000 (made a plaster splash of the Ford emblem on my kluge grille,
> buying casting resin today, so hopefully will have another "unique
> detail" soon)
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From andycost at embarqmail.com  Fri Apr  3 06:16:15 2009
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Embarq Customer)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 09:16:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] stuck drums
In-Reply-To: <3ad057d60904030438x5bbc4486oc02e8c157452451a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1663241711.2159261238764575996.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com>

After seeing the studded tires the rust makes sense.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Oakes" <boakes at gmail.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2009 6:38:59 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stuck drums

Hi all,

that was a great string of messages - everything from brute force exercises,
to science experiments.

I finally sprung them loose with a week of marinating in Kroil (great stuff)
and a heavy hammer and chisel on the inside of the drum. They were well
cemented to the hub.

If you're curious, the last 4 pix in the album show the results:
http://picasaweb.google.com/boakes/RoadsterBlack#

Thanks all.

-bill

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>wrote:

> I finally heard back from my friend, who had been on vacation. It was
> ammonia. It worked great for me.
>
> Gordon Glasgow
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of O'Farrell,
> Fergus P (AS)
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 5:43 AM
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stuck drums
>
> Gordon wrote:  Re: [Roadsters] stuck drums
> I ran into this a number of years ago and couldn't get it unstuck. Then
> a friend suggested ...pouring some liquid between the drum and backing
> plate. After marinating for a day or two, smacking the axle straight
> down on the studs popped the drum right off.  Unfortunately I can't
> remember what the liquid was. I keep thinking it was ammonia, but I'm
> not sure.
>
> I suspect it was vinegar (aka: acetic acid), ya know, the same thing
> used to un-gunk the built up minerals in your coffee maker, and
> showerhead.  I shy away from all chemical-speak (got thru chem class,
> but swore I'd never re-visit that subject), but the oxidation of
> aluminum/steel dissimilar metals mix has me betting it was that.
>
> Along those lines, that CLR (calcium, lime, rust) cleaner product may be
> one to try, although Andy's suggestion of really good alignment and a
> BFH has a lot of merit as well.
>
> Fergus O
> 69 2000 (made a plaster splash of the Ford emblem on my kluge grille,
> buying casting resin today, so hopefully will have another "unique
> detail" soon)
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From bubwin at mts.net  Fri Apr  3 12:08:41 2009
From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:08:41 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
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References: <443442.5955.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<BAY124-W3319E804AC919756FE2B8BBF880@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <ADB00995F79B4306AF0C18DB8BF779B0@ctmPC>

I know spacers is an easy way to slightly adjust wheel spacing, if you are 
also replacing rims when you are doing this, it makes more sense to me to 
get rims with a more positive offset.  Then you don't need the spacers or in 
most cases, longer studs.

I could go on to explain wheel offset, but it's already been written and 
posted so here's a link.

http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp

Bob Winslade
1966-1600 Missy
1967-1600 Bender
1972-510 Daisy
1972-510 Spare Change



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "robert k. smith" <rksmith46 at hotmail.com>
To: <vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com>; "roadster list" 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (no subject)


> hi steve, i have used up to 3/4" spacers(on each side)
>
> and  long tube nuts. the tube nut goes inside the spacer. be careful the 
> tube
> nut doesnt go thru the
>
> wheel and spacer and bottom out before getting tight.
>
> ive autocrossed my roadster for years like that, and
>
> have stock studs, with no stud failure, so far.
>
>  good luck, bob smith, ohio.
>
>> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:23:16 -0700
>> From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com
>> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>> Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
>>
>> hi everyone
>> is there a source for longer wheel studs? i would like to add some 
>> spacers
> to the rear, to increase the track about 2 inches, and push the tires to 
> the
> edge of the fender. any thoughts?
>> thanks in advance
>> steve
>> 675MIZU
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From turbored at gmail.com  Fri Apr  3 17:27:17 2009
From: turbored at gmail.com (turbored)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:27:17 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
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Bob

All things equal, It's more negative offset to push the wheels further  
out.

drew

On Apr 3, 2009, at 12:08 PM, Bubba wrote:

> I know spacers is an easy way to slightly adjust wheel spacing, if  
> you are also replacing rims when you are doing this, it makes more  
> sense to me to get rims with a more positive offset.  Then you don't  
> need the spacers or in most cases, longer studs.
>
> I could go on to explain wheel offset, but it's already been written  
> and posted so here's a link.
>
> http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp
>
> Bob Winslade
> 1966-1600 Missy
> 1967-1600 Bender
> 1972-510 Daisy
> 1972-510 Spare Change
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "robert k. smith" <rksmith46 at hotmail.com 
> >
> To: <vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com>; "roadster list" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net 
> >
> Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 11:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (no subject)
>
>
>> hi steve, i have used up to 3/4" spacers(on each side)
>>
>> and  long tube nuts. the tube nut goes inside the spacer. be  
>> careful the tube
>> nut doesnt go thru the
>>
>> wheel and spacer and bottom out before getting tight.
>>
>> ive autocrossed my roadster for years like that, and
>>
>> have stock studs, with no stud failure, so far.
>>
>> good luck, bob smith, ohio.
>>
>>> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:23:16 -0700
>>> From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com
>>> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>>> Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
>>>
>>> hi everyone
>>> is there a source for longer wheel studs? i would like to add some  
>>> spacers
>> to the rear, to increase the track about 2 inches, and push the  
>> tires to the
>> edge of the fender. any thoughts?
>>> thanks in advance
>>> steve
>>> 675MIZU
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From vulforge at aol.com  Fri Apr  3 14:36:51 2009
From: vulforge at aol.com (vulforge at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:36:51 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Bits
In-Reply-To: <8CB828E0CAE9420-1578-49F7@webmail-mh32.sysops.aol.com>
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Message-ID: <8CB82BB6F38D9BF-152C-1141@WEBMAIL-MY02.sysops.aol.com>

Due to someone backing into my car in my parking lot, I will be re-doing parts of the exterior.? I need a few small parts, and thought I would check with you guys before calling our friendly vendors.? 
I need:
1 good rear bumper overrider, nice chrome.
1 decent back-up light.
1 '67 style top latch- the kind that?looks like a toolbox latch?(really only need the flipper handle part).
The rods that go from the heater control lever to the heater doors.

All of the above to go on an early '67 1600.? The upside of this is that insurance is paying enough that I should be able to repair the damage on the passenger fender where someone ELSE backed into the car.? I guess interior is still on hold for awhile.? If anyone has any of the above parts that they want to part with, please write or call and let me know what you want for them.

Thanks!


Russell Criswell
Vulcan's Forge
3936 Broadway
Kansas City, MO
64111

816-931-6303
816-931-9378 fax
877-531-1046 toll-free
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From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Fri Apr  3 09:41:04 2009
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 09:41:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Tappets
References: <BAY110-DS3DA01C8FE01D517306263DE890@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <309909.72273.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

hi brad
i just did this on mine.  follow "the rule of 9."
you want to adjust the valve (it's called) that is fully closed.  to determine which is fully closed, the rule applies as follows:
rotate the crank (best done by hand with a 1.125 inch socket on the big nut on the end of the crank, with spark plugs out) until the first valve (the one furthest to the front) is fully open.  you'll know it is fully open when the pushrod reaches its zenith, or highest point.  when that happens to the number 1 valve, then the number 8 is fully closed (1 + 8 = 9).  you'll need a flat screwdriver, and a 14 mm box wrench.  place the screwdriver in the slot atop the pushrod, and back off the nut.  the rocker should move freely.  then slide a feeler guage (.017 in.) between the top of the valve and the rocker, and snug down the slotted thingie atop the pushrod.  once snug, tighten it in place with the 14 mm nut.
then just repeat the process for the rest of the valves.  so next you will bring the 2nd valve fully open.  at that point, the number 7 valve should be fully closed (2 + 7 = 9), so adjust it as you did the 8th.  and so on.
does that make sense?  did i get it right, the rest of you?
steve
675MIZU




________________________________
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To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2009 2:38:13 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Tappets

Anyone have step-by-step instructions on how to adjust tappets on an SPL311
roadster?
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Apr  3 12:37:44 2009
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 19:37:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Tappets
In-Reply-To: <BAY110-DS3DA01C8FE01D517306263DE890@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1295628989.664371238787464226.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

The TechWiki on 311s.org. Go to the Engine section, then scroll down and you'll find two methods for adjusting the valves. 

Pete 

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Subject: [Roadsters] Tappets 

Anyone have step-by-step instructions on how to adjust tappets on an SPL311 
roadster? 
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Fri Apr  3 19:34:08 2009
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 22:34:08 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Tappets
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 From 311 site, this is method #2 which I found easier than trying to figure out when valve was closed etc


"With 1/2" ratchet and a large socket put the engine
on top dead center dizzy rotor pointing to #1 spark plug wire cap
position, and adjust #1 rockers, then rotate the crank 180 degrees and
check both rockers on # 3(rotor will be pointing to #3 cap position)
then rotate again 180 degrees which is to the timing mark and adjust #
4 rockers then 180 and adjust #2 rockers. It usually takes 3-4 tries to
get them good enough to quiet down.



Rotor on dizzy will be pointing to 1 3 4 2 as you rotate which is the firing order.



Valves are closed when adjusting via this method."










                
                

 


 

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Sent: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 2:38 am
Subject: [Roadsters] Tappets










Anyone have step-by-step instructions on how to adjust tappets on an SPL311
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Fri Apr  3 20:18:32 2009
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:18:32 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
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That's true as long as you can find a wheel you like with the right offset.
The problem these days is that the vast majority of wheels are being made
with offsets for front-drive cars, which is much more positive than what
roadsters want. Hence the need for spacers.

Gordon Glasgow
Renton, WA

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bubba
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 12:09 PM
To: robert k. smith; vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com; roadster list
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (no subject)

I know spacers is an easy way to slightly adjust wheel spacing, if you are 
also replacing rims when you are doing this, it makes more sense to me to 
get rims with a more positive offset.  Then you don't need the spacers or in

most cases, longer studs.

From tasker1968 at comcast.net  Fri Apr  3 22:40:54 2009
From: tasker1968 at comcast.net (Owen)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:40:54 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Siliva SR20DE S14 MAF
Message-ID: <000001c9b4e7$ec323c10$6700a8c0@Omar>

Wanted: Siliva SR20DE S14 MAF #22680-52F01 anyone have one for sale or know
where I can get one? I've have seen a couple of #22680-52F00 for sale, will
these work with this motor? Thanks, Owen.

From andycost at embarqmail.com  Sat Apr  4 05:24:59 2009
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost)
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:24:59 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Siliva SR20DE S14 MAF
In-Reply-To: <000001c9b4e7$ec323c10$6700a8c0@Omar>
Message-ID: <JBEKJICFFOFCBHHGLNFDGEEPDIAA.andycost@embarqmail.com>

I think the S14 240sx with the KA24DE used the same MAF as the S14 SR20DE.
I switched over to a P60 from an Infinity Q45 which required some computer
modifications.  I think you can get an SAFC and then install any MAF that
you want.

Andy

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Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 12:41 AM
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Subject: [Roadsters] Siliva SR20DE S14 MAF


Wanted: Siliva SR20DE S14 MAF #22680-52F01 anyone have one for sale or know
where I can get one? I've have seen a couple of #22680-52F00 for sale, will
these work with this motor? Thanks, Owen.
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From tputland at charter.net  Sat Apr  4 10:55:26 2009
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:55:26 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Rotors
Message-ID: <20090404135526.764TG.291000.root@mp17>

I have read that the minimum thickness is .331 in. The two rotors I am working with are .39 in thick. I do not know how much material is removed when a rotor is turned. Is there enough material left to have these turned? Or do I need to get different rotors?

TIA

Tim

From alvingogi at hotmail.com  Sat Apr  4 11:52:17 2009
From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:52:17 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Burnout
Message-ID: <SNT104-W80AC2C6802E1149B0FE173B5860@phx.gbl>

Now that the new 4-link is in with the LSD I'm enjoying it :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL0mDolAOJw



There is so much traction now I think I can shave a few tenths of the 1/4!

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2049898890103926530FFHuel

Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20



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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sat Apr  4 17:40:09 2009
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:40:09 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Rotors
In-Reply-To: <20090404135526.764TG.291000.root@mp17>
References: <20090404135526.764TG.291000.root@mp17>
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>From the 311s.org TechWiki:

"New rotors are approximately .433" thick with a minimum thickness of .325",
so .39 is in the middle.

Did a quick search (Google is your friend), and found:

"As a rule, the depth of a finish cut should be .002 to .008 inch. If the
rotor is in bad shape, multiple cuts should be used: one or more rough cuts
followed by a shallow final cut." So, you'd still have .38 even if .01 inch
was removed.

Do they need to be turned? I've seen quite a few "turn 'em/don't don't em"
comments. More searching found:

"In TSB No. 00-05-22-002, GM states: "Brake rotors should only be turned
when one of the following rotor surface conditions exist: severe scoring
with depth in excess of 1.5mm or 0.060 inch, pulsation from excessive
lateral nmout of more than 0.080mm or 0.003 inch, thickness variation in
excess of 0.025mm or 0.001 inch or excessive corrosion on rotor braking
surfaces. Rotors are not to be resurfaced in an attempt to correct the
following conditions: noise/squeal, cosmetic corrosion, routine pad
replacement or discoloration/hard spots."

GM says resurfacing is "ineffective at correcting brake squeal and/or
premature lining wear and should not he used to address these
conditions-unless specifically directed to do so in a service bulletin."

Love this comment;

"I personally don't bother with machining rotors...waste of time when new
rotors only cost $20... "

Obviously, that guy doesn't own a roadster. <g>

Pete "mine were below .32, so easy decision -- bought new ones."

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 10:55 AM
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Rotors

I have read that the minimum thickness is .331 in. The two rotors I am
working with are .39 in thick. I do not know how much material is removed
when a rotor is turned. Is there enough material left to have these turned?
Or do I need to get different rotors?

TIA

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From aultgc at att.net  Sat Apr  4 18:06:33 2009
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:06:33 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Welding Fifth Gear
Message-ID: <22E022BFD67A4B44AB42595DE9E8DF80@gaxp1>

Anyone out there know how one should weld the two pieces of 5th gear in a 2000
transmission?  I checked 311s.org, found a few questions but no
answers/nothing in pmwiki.  Maybe I missed something, but, if it's there, I
didn't find it.

I am having a 5-speed rebuilt by a local shop, which is very capable, but they
have no experience with the "5th gear neutral" issue with roadster 5-speed
transmissions.  I'd like to give them some guidance.

Gary
1966 1600/U20
1967 2000 Solex

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Sat Apr  4 18:06:20 2009
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 21:06:20 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for Atlanta roadster owner
Message-ID: <cd6.49b44990.37095e0c@aol.com>

Hello all,
 
    Last year when I went to Road Atlanta I met up with  one of the roadster 
folks and shipped my cameras to his business. I would like  to discuss some 
computer stuff with him but am drawing a blank as to his name  and email 
address. So, I'll just fess up to suffering from CRS (can't remember  stuff) and ask 
for assistance. 
 
    Anyway, drop me a note.
 
keith williams
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From lars.tungen at abaris.no  Sun Apr  5 06:09:08 2009
From: lars.tungen at abaris.no (Lars Tungen)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:09:08 +0200
Subject: [Roadsters] Welding Fifth Gear
In-Reply-To: <22E022BFD67A4B44AB42595DE9E8DF80@gaxp1>
References: <22E022BFD67A4B44AB42595DE9E8DF80@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <001f01c9b5e7$59f43820$0ddca860$@tungen@abaris.no>

There's a useful thread on 311's on this topic. If you read the posts you
will see that some disagree on that the weld is necessary.

http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7486

--
Lars Tungen
Norway 

From whamba at earthlink.net  Sun Apr  5 16:58:27 2009
From: whamba at earthlink.net (Matthew Smith)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:58:27 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Mid Tennessee Nissan Car Day
Message-ID: <E1LqbIG-0004vO-KZ@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi All.

At Lowes this morning, I met a gentleman who works at the Nissan
Headquarters in Franklin TN. He invited me to join Nissan on 04/18/09 in
front of the Nissan America Headquarters at approx 9 AM for an event they
are having. It's a "Z" fest / Employee car show. All are welcome to attend.
He mentioned that there should be a few roadsters there, including mine. If
you're in the area, please show up!! I'll take pictures and post them
afterward for those who can't attend. 

 

Matt Smith - SEROC

From phylam at sbcglobal.net  Sun Apr  5 23:41:02 2009
From: phylam at sbcglobal.net (Phyllis Almazan)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 01:41:02 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Personal invitation from Phyllis Almazan
Message-ID: <20090406014102.-1048459419@unyk.com>

Personal invitation from Phyllis Almazan

From tputland at charter.net  Mon Apr  6 05:09:23 2009
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 4:09:23 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] rotor and hub seperation
Message-ID: <20090406070923.UM56I.359024.root@mp18>

I seem to remember someone had posted a request for help on this one. 

Can you please forward me the suggestion that worked--I can't find it in my inbox. I most likely will end up having my mechanic do it since this unit is pretty rusty, but I still would like to try myself first. 

Thanks

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From andycost at embarqmail.com  Mon Apr  6 05:18:35 2009
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 06:18:35 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] rotor and hub seperation
In-Reply-To: <20090406070923.UM56I.359024.root@mp18>
Message-ID: <JBEKJICFFOFCBHHGLNFDEEFFDIAA.andycost@embarqmail.com>

Soak the joint in penetrating oil.  Remove the bolts.  Build a steel or
wooden frame that allows you to set the rotor on it but the hub fits through
the center.  Cut a piece of 2x4 that is big enough to fit over the inner hub
but is not so bit that it hits the rotor.  Use a 10 pound rotor separating
tool vigorously until the two come apart.

Andy


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[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:09 AM
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] rotor and hub seperation


I seem to remember someone had posted a request for help on this one.

Can you please forward me the suggestion that worked--I can't find it in my
inbox. I most likely will end up having my mechanic do it since this unit is
pretty rusty, but I still would like to try myself first.

Thanks

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning
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From boakes at gmail.com  Mon Apr  6 05:31:06 2009
From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 06:31:06 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] rotor and hub seperation
In-Reply-To: <JBEKJICFFOFCBHHGLNFDEEFFDIAA.andycost@embarqmail.com>
References: <JBEKJICFFOFCBHHGLNFDEEFFDIAA.andycost@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <A3AE8CB8-DA61-4768-AEF4-F4DCCCD22913@gmail.com>

Soaking is key, and I had great luck on my stuck drums with Kroil. I  
bought a gallon a couple years ago and have used it on many stuck parts.

On Apr 6, 2009, at 6:18 AM, "Andy Cost" <andycost at embarqmail.com> wrote:

> Soak the joint in penetrating oil.  Remove the bolts.  Build a steel  
> or
> wooden frame that allows you to set the rotor on it but the hub fits  
> through
> the center.  Cut a piece of 2x4 that is big enough to fit over the  
> inner hub
> but is not so bit that it hits the rotor.  Use a 10 pound rotor  
> separating
> tool vigorously until the two come apart.
>
> Andy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Tim
> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:09 AM
> To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] rotor and hub seperation
>
>
> I seem to remember someone had posted a request for help on this one.
>
> Can you please forward me the suggestion that worked--I can't find  
> it in my
> inbox. I most likely will end up having my mechanic do it since this  
> unit is
> pretty rusty, but I still would like to try myself first.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
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From ericerichoffman at yahoo.com  Mon Apr  6 06:15:57 2009
From: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com (Eric Hoffman)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:15:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] shipping a truck from texas to georgia
Message-ID: <363600.46672.qm@web36903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi guys, I need to ship a truck from Mineola, Texas to Alpharetta, GA.  The
truck is a $2000 item and my timeline is flexible.  Any suggestions?
 
Eric Hoffman
Alpharetta, GA

From tputland at charter.net  Mon Apr  6 07:45:04 2009
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 6:45:04 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] shipping a truck from texas to georgia
In-Reply-To: <363600.46672.qm@web36903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20090406094504.SAL27.368482.root@mp05>

I used Intercity Lines to ship my Dad's Roadster from CA to WI. It was pricey but worth it--covered transport the whole way. My dad was impressed with the professionalism of the husband and wife team that picked up the car on his end. And the driver who dropped the car on my end was equally professional.

I have heard that some of the cheaper vehicle shippers might be unscrupulous and that some drivers try to get more money out of the people involved to unload the car at its destination. I have not experienced this but have heard it from more than one person. 

At 650ish miles, it might be cheaper to rent an appropriate trailer and haul it yourself.


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- Eric Hoffman <ericerichoffman at yahoo.com> wrote: 

=============
Hi guys, I need to ship a truck from Mineola, Texas to Alpharetta, GA.  The
truck is a $2000 item and my timeline is flexible.  Any suggestions?
 
Eric Hoffman
Alpharetta, GA

From timbob_fisher at yahoo.com  Mon Apr  6 08:03:13 2009
From: timbob_fisher at yahoo.com (tim fisher)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:03:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] shipping a truck from texas to georgia
In-Reply-To: <20090406094504.SAL27.368482.root@mp05>
Message-ID: <826459.10183.qm@web54108.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hey Tim,
  I'd be interested in how much they charged.  Probably was some bonding or insurance coverage.  Was there a per mile charge or was it a flat rate.  Been kicking around doing some hotshot stuff or car hauling....
Thanks,
Tim

--- On Mon, 4/6/09, Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:

> From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] shipping a truck from texas to georgia
> To: "Eric Hoffman" <ericerichoffman at yahoo.com>, "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 8:45 AM
> I used Intercity Lines to ship my Dad's Roadster from CA
> to WI. It was pricey but worth it--covered transport the
> whole way. My dad was impressed with the professionalism of
> the husband and wife team that picked up the car on his end.
> And the driver who dropped the car on my end was equally
> professional.
> 
> I have heard that some of the cheaper vehicle shippers
> might be unscrupulous and that some drivers try to get more
> money out of the people involved to unload the car at its
> destination. I have not experienced this but have heard it
> from more than one person. 
> 
> At 650ish miles, it might be cheaper to rent an appropriate
> trailer and haul it yourself.
> 
> 
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
> 
> ---- Eric Hoffman <ericerichoffman at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> 
> =============
> Hi guys, I need to ship a truck from Mineola, Texas to
> Alpharetta, GA.  The
> truck is a $2000 item and my timeline is flexible.  Any
> suggestions?
>  
> Eric Hoffman
> Alpharetta, GA
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From timbob_fisher at yahoo.com  Mon Apr  6 08:08:49 2009
From: timbob_fisher at yahoo.com (tim fisher)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:08:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] shipping a truck from texas to georgia
Message-ID: <6887.91107.qm@web54103.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hey Tim,
  I'd be interested in how much they charged.  Probably was some bonding or insurance coverage.  Was there a per mile charge or was it a flat rate.  Been kicking around doing some hotshot stuff or car hauling....
Thanks,
Tim

--- On Mon, 4/6/09, Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:

> From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] shipping a truck from texas to georgia
> To: "Eric Hoffman" <ericerichoffman at yahoo.com>, "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 8:45 AM
> I used Intercity Lines to ship my Dad's Roadster from CA
> to WI. It was pricey but worth it--covered transport the
> whole way. My dad was impressed with the professionalism of
> the husband and wife team that picked up the car on his end.
> And the driver who dropped the car on my end was equally
> professional.
> 
> I have heard that some of the cheaper vehicle shippers
> might be unscrupulous and that some drivers try to get more
> money out of the people involved to unload the car at its
> destination. I have not experienced this but have heard it
> from more than one person. 
> 
> At 650ish miles, it might be cheaper to rent an appropriate
> trailer and haul it yourself.
> 
> 
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
> 
> ---- Eric Hoffman <ericerichoffman at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> 
> =============
> Hi guys, I need to ship a truck from Mineola, Texas to
> Alpharetta, GA.  The
> truck is a $2000 item and my timeline is flexible.  Any
> suggestions?
>  
> Eric Hoffman
> Alpharetta, GA
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From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Mon Apr  6 08:32:52 2009
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 09:32:52 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] shipping a truck from texas to georgia
In-Reply-To: <2faaebf80904060731u7d0e3085r13c2d3a4b7610827@mail.gmail.com>
References: <363600.46672.qm@web36903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<20090406094504.SAL27.368482.root@mp05>
	<2faaebf80904060731u7d0e3085r13c2d3a4b7610827@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2faaebf80904060732u67dd78f9j4b1c6a62c50b119e@mail.gmail.com>

Check with a local car dealer, especially if you are friends with
someone at the dealership.

Last year the son of a friend of mine in Gainesville was being
deployed from Ft. Hood to Iraq. He didn't find out until the last
minute that the Army wouldn't pay to ship his Jeep back Daytona Beach.
Another friend of mine and his Dad own a dealership in Killeen so I
called him. He said they ship cars all the time and gave me the name
and number of his guy who handled that sort of thing. I gave my
Florida buddy the guy's name and number then kept the Jeep until they
were ready to ship it.

I have no idea what it cost, but I know my friend in Gainesville was
happy with the whole deal. I'll be talking with him later and will ask
what it cost him.

Ron

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:
> I used Intercity Lines to ship my Dad's Roadster from CA to WI. It was
pricey but worth it--covered transport the whole way. My dad was impressed
with the professionalism of the husband and wife team that picked up the car
on his end. And the driver who dropped the car on my end was equally
professional.
>
> I have heard that some of the cheaper vehicle shippers might be unscrupulous
and that some drivers try to get more money out of the people involved to
unload the car at its destination. I have not experienced this but have heard
it from more than one person.
>
> At 650ish miles, it might be cheaper to rent an appropriate trailer and haul
it yourself.
>
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
>
> ---- Eric Hoffman <ericerichoffman at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> =============
> Hi guys, I need to ship a truck from Mineola, Texas to Alpharetta, GA.
B The
> truck is a $2000 item and my timeline is flexible. B Any suggestions?
>
> Eric Hoffman
> Alpharetta, GA
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From whamba at earthlink.net  Mon Apr  6 09:54:49 2009
From: whamba at earthlink.net (Matthew Smith)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:54:49 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] rotor and hub seperation
In-Reply-To: <20090406070923.UM56I.359024.root@mp18>
Message-ID: <E1Lqr9q-0005k2-0Q@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Tim,
My local Goodyear Dealer separated both front rotors for $5 each when I had
the rotors turned there. My $.02.
Matt Smith 

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:09 AM
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] rotor and hub seperation

I seem to remember someone had posted a request for help on this one. 

Can you please forward me the suggestion that worked--I can't find it in my
inbox. I most likely will end up having my mechanic do it since this unit is
pretty rusty, but I still would like to try myself first. 

Thanks

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning
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From aybreeze at comcast.net  Mon Apr  6 10:57:37 2009
From: aybreeze at comcast.net (aybreeze at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:57:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters]  shipping a truck from texas to georgia
In-Reply-To: <737519128.583451239036914226.JavaMail.root@sz0038a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <723148859.584781239037057656.JavaMail.root@sz0038a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

The phone number for Hard Times Transport Is 270-227-2435

I have used themB five or six times To west palm beach Florida

Keep smiling
B B  B  B  Arthur

----- Forwarded Message -----
From: "Eric Hoffman" <ericerichoffman at yahoo.com>
To: aybreeze at comcast.net
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2009 9:21:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] shipping a truck from texas to georgia


Hey thank you Arthur.

Eric

--- On Mon, 4/6/09, aybreeze at comcast.net <aybreeze at comcast.net> wrote:



From: aybreeze at comcast.net <aybreeze at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] shipping a truck from texas to georgia
To: "Eric Hoffman" <ericerichoffman at yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 9:09 AM




For Reliability & door to doorB service always used Hard Times TransportB 
B He travels Texas to Miami once a weekB  I will try to find number when I get
home

Keep smiling
B B  B  B  Arthur

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Hoffman" <ericerichoffman at yahoo.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net, smit7703 at bellsouth.net
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2009 8:15:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [Roadsters] shipping a truck from texas to georgia

Hi guys, I need to ship a truck from Mineola, Texas to Alpharetta, GA. B The
truck is a $2000 item and my timeline is flexible. B Any suggestions?
B 
Eric Hoffman
Alpharetta, GA
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From tputland at charter.net  Mon Apr  6 11:20:26 2009
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:20:26 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Rotors--.37 min?
In-Reply-To: <928CAE52-4004-4758-8909-AD9C06A3245C@sportsimports.ca>
Message-ID: <20090406132026.0CH3Y.382335.root@mp08>

Ross Mullen / Sports Imports <info at sportsimports.ca> wrote: 
minimum thickness is .370
Ross
sports imports



.37 Really? 

I pulled that .331 measurment right out of one of the manuals my dad gave me with the car. The rotors I am considering using are (.39 to .40) came out of a relatively low mileage car--under 70,000 miles. 

What does a rotor measure new?

Tim

From tputland at charter.net  Mon Apr  6 11:32:56 2009
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:32:56 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Re:  studded tires...
Message-ID: <20090406133256.SE4WU.383390.root@mp08>

Wow, look at that muffler. That car has been sitting outside for a very long 
time. The under side of Bills new part car is rustier than one of my part cars. 
And my car had rice paper thin sheet metal in the foot well AND A-pillars. 
 
How are the A-pillars on that car Bill? 

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From boakes at gmail.com  Mon Apr  6 11:59:00 2009
From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:59:00 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] studded tires...
In-Reply-To: <20090406133256.SE4WU.383390.root@mp08>
References: <20090406133256.SE4WU.383390.root@mp08>
Message-ID: <3ad057d60904061059u6bb7f7dekbc9e070b0a4a2233@mail.gmail.com>

it really is an interesting little 4-wheeled-science project.

I decided to scrub it down a little once I got the rear end back together,
or at least blow off some of the loose stuff and clean it up. I noticed
there were a bunch spider web trails going down to the cement floor of the
garage, from the car and thought that was odd, i've never seen anything like
that on the red car that has at there for 2 years now. Then I realized,
those were escape trails for spiders who made it home for the last few years
outside. Kind of freaked out my wife, but it's a detached garage, no harm.

Fired up the air compressor with a long wand and blew out a couple shovels
full of loose rust, dirt and even some home insulation that I'm sure the
mice used to build a nest at some point.

Bottom line is that there is bad rust damage on the bottom of the door sills
and rear fenders where I'm sure dirt was sitting for years, collecting
moisture and not draining. From that point up the car is solid, even the
floor pans, it's kind of amazing.

I'm sure there are some surprised to be found once I really get it into
pieces, but need my "model" in one piece for now.

I did scrub down as much surface rust I could get to on the frame and pans
with a wire brush. I'll keep doing that as much as time allows to keep the
damage from continuing. But, for now, it's in a nice dry place.

fun stuff.



On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:

> Wow, look at that muffler. That car has been sitting outside for a very
> long
> time. The under side of Bills new part car is rustier than one of my part
> cars.
> And my car had rice paper thin sheet metal in the foot well AND A-pillars.
>
> How are the A-pillars on that car Bill?
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Mon Apr  6 12:01:18 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:01:18 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Steering Column Issues
Message-ID: <49DA436E.5020206@socal.rr.com>

Hi all,

So I'm switching out my OLD death spear for a newer collapsable steering 
column.  I'd like to converse with anyone who's already done this.  IF 
you could email me off list, it would be greatly appreciated...

Thanks.

Eddie

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Mon Apr  6 12:03:50 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:03:50 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Kwik Wire Rewiring job...
Message-ID: <49DA4406.8080402@socal.rr.com>

So my car is just a few steps away from living again...

Now I'm doing the wiring.  Anyone dealt with the "kwik wire" set up?

I'm not all that impressed with it, especially for what I paid for the 
darn thing!  Missing wires, no schematic, company claims they don't have 
a schematic for the unit!  (which I then asked "how do your builders 
make them if they don't have a blueprint to follow?"  They've not 
answered yet! 

Anyone else use this wiring system? 

Eddie

From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Mon Apr  6 12:33:04 2009
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:33:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] studded tires...
In-Reply-To: <3ad057d60904061059u6bb7f7dekbc9e070b0a4a2233@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <490538.10615.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

First thing I thought when I saw the pics was - road salt.

Makes my skin crawl just thinking about it.

Gary McCormick
San Jose

--- On Mon, 4/6/09, Bill Oakes <boakes at gmail.com> wrote:
From: Bill Oakes <boakes at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] studded tires...
To: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>
Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 10:59 AM

it really is an interesting little 4-wheeled-science project.

I decided to scrub it down a little once I got the rear end back together,
or at least blow off some of the loose stuff and clean it up. I noticed
there were a bunch spider web trails going down to the cement floor of the
garage, from the car and thought that was odd, i've never seen anything
like
that on the red car that has at there for 2 years now. Then I realized,
those were escape trails for spiders who made it home for the last few years
outside. Kind of freaked out my wife, but it's a detached garage, no harm.

Fired up the air compressor with a long wand and blew out a couple shovels
full of loose rust, dirt and even some home insulation that I'm sure the
mice used to build a nest at some point.

Bottom line is that there is bad rust damage on the bottom of the door sills
and rear fenders where I'm sure dirt was sitting for years, collecting
moisture and not draining. From that point up the car is solid, even the
floor pans, it's kind of amazing.

I'm sure there are some surprised to be found once I really get it into
pieces, but need my "model" in one piece for now.

I did scrub down as much surface rust I could get to on the frame and pans
with a wire brush. I'll keep doing that as much as time allows to keep the
damage from continuing. But, for now, it's in a nice dry place.

fun stuff.



On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:

> Wow, look at that muffler. That car has been sitting outside for a very
> long
> time. The under side of Bills new part car is rustier than one of my part
> cars.
> And my car had rice paper thin sheet metal in the foot well AND A-pillars.
>
> How are the A-pillars on that car Bill?
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
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From roadsterregistry at yahoo.com  Mon Apr  6 12:39:27 2009
From: roadsterregistry at yahoo.com (Roman Rist)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:39:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Car back (for what it's worth)
Message-ID: <317337.30794.qm@web50105.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hi Folks,

long time gone, and long time without a roadster.

I would like to give a heartfelt thanks to Pam and Paul Bauman for storing my 66 for me.

This weekend it returned to me, for the long road of roadster recovery ahead.

Amongst other things, the drivetrain was gone. I was just stored as a rolling chassis. 

I managed to score a complete drivetrain with only 76,00 miles with some z therapy carbs.

Now if I can remember how to work on roadsters, and the DMV gods smile on me, I might even end up at Solvang with a car.

Wouldn't that be a hoot?

Roman

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Mon Apr  6 12:43:05 2009
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:43:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] rotor and hub seperation
In-Reply-To: <E1Lqr9q-0005k2-0Q@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1505449230.1607121239043385214.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Yeah, but where's the fun in that? <g> 

Pete "beat it to $h!t...paint it to fit" 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matthew Smith" <whamba at earthlink.net> 
To: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>, "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2009 8:54:49 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rotor and hub seperation 

Tim, 
My local Goodyear Dealer separated both front rotors for $5 each when I had 
the rotors turned there. My $.02. 
Matt Smith 

-----Original Message----- 
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net 
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim 
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:09 AM 
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net 
Subject: [Roadsters] rotor and hub seperation 

I seem to remember someone had posted a request for help on this one. 

Can you please forward me the suggestion that worked--I can't find it in my 
inbox. I most likely will end up having my mechanic do it since this unit is 
pretty rusty, but I still would like to try myself first. 

Thanks 

Tim 
Belleville, WI. 
'70 SPL AND SRL 
Still clueless but always learning 
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Mon Apr  6 12:52:19 2009
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:52:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Rotors--.37 min?
In-Reply-To: <936302217.1609401239043620631.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1344516103.1612321239043939577.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

>From my response 2 days ago: 

> From the 311s.org TechWiki: 
"New rotors are approximately .433" thick with a minimum thickness of .325 " 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net> 
To: "Ross Mullen / Sports Imports" <info at sportsimports.ca> 
Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2009 10:20:26 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rotors--.37 min? 

[snip] 

What does a rotor measure new? 

Tim 

From tputland at charter.net  Mon Apr  6 13:00:51 2009
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:00:51 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Rotors--.37 min?
In-Reply-To: <1344516103.1612321239043939577.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20090406150051.X0F59.390926.root@mp08>

I didn't get your reply from two days ago. Thanks for the resend! 

But now I have three different minimum thickness amounts.........        :-(


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote: 

=============
>From my response 2 days ago: 

> From the 311s.org TechWiki: 
"New rotors are approximately .433" thick with a minimum thickness of .325 " 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net> 
To: "Ross Mullen / Sports Imports" <info at sportsimports.ca> 
Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2009 10:20:26 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rotors--.37 min? 

[snip] 

What does a rotor measure new? 

Tim 

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Mon Apr  6 13:16:01 2009
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:16:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Rotors--.37 min?
In-Reply-To: <20090406150051.X0F59.390926.root@mp08>
Message-ID: <1190342505.1626191239045361924.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Well, .325 and .331 are close enough for me to call 'em the same. Wonder where Ross got .37, or maybe it's a best practices thing. You know, yeah, the minimum is .31, but when you hit .37 the caliper pistons are almost max extension, so best start budgeting for new rotors. <g> 

I have a new set of DBA rotors I'll measure when I get home. 

Pete 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net> 
To: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>, "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2009 12:00:51 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rotors--.37 min? 

I didn't get your reply from two days ago. Thanks for the resend! 

But now I have three different minimum thickness amounts......... :-( 


Tim 
Belleville, WI. 
'70 SPL AND SRL 
Still clueless but always learning 

---- Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote: 

============= 
>From my response 2 days ago: 

> From the 311s.org TechWiki: 
"New rotors are approximately .433" thick with a minimum thickness of .325 " 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net> 
To: "Ross Mullen / Sports Imports" <info at sportsimports.ca> 
Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2009 10:20:26 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rotors--.37 min? 

[snip] 

What does a rotor measure new? 

Tim 

From vulforge at aol.com  Mon Apr  6 14:39:27 2009
From: vulforge at aol.com (vulforge at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:39:27 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Car back
Message-ID: <8CB850EE9DD4ABB-728-17EF@FWM-M32.sysops.aol.com>

Roman!
???? Welcome back, dude!? Good luck on the car!


Russell Criswell
Vulcan's Forge
3936 Broadway
Kansas City, MO
64111

816-931-6303
816-931-9378 fax
877-531-1046 toll-free
www.vulcans-forge.com

From andycost at embarqmail.com  Mon Apr  6 16:21:09 2009
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Embarq Customer)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:21:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Rotors--.37 min?
In-Reply-To: <1190342505.1626191239045361924.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1343664419.220851239056469844.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com>

I had mine turned down to .380 so they would work with the sprint car brakes I installed.

I have the old set which are turned down in diameter for sale if anyone is thinking about a Volvo brake swap.  I had them turned down and then modified my stock calipers so that they would fit inside 13" wheels.  I have the stock pistons for sale as well as a 23mm front swaybar, rear swaybar, and rear Koni's.

Andy

From aultgc at att.net  Mon Apr  6 18:40:10 2009
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:40:10 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] shipping a truck from texas to georgia
References: <826459.10183.qm@web54108.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0C9CF5ECE18B4E3599194A78D1265B0A@gaxp1>

Tim,

I used Intercity last year to ship a '67 2000 from Vista, California to NW 
Indiana.  About $1,450.  Excellent service, first-class enclosed trailer, 
careful handling.

Gary Ault
2303 Normandy Road
Schererville, Indiana  46375
(219) 322-1923

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "tim fisher" <timbob_fisher at yahoo.com>
To: "Eric Hoffman" <ericerichoffman at yahoo.com>; 
"datsun-roadsters:autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>; "Tim" 
<tputland at charter.net>
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] shipping a truck from texas to georgia


> Hey Tim,
>  I'd be interested in how much they charged.  Probably was some bonding or 
> insurance coverage.  Was there a per mile charge or was it a flat rate. 
> Been kicking around doing some hotshot stuff or car hauling....
> Thanks,
> Tim
>
> --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:
>
>> From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] shipping a truck from texas to georgia
>> To: "Eric Hoffman" <ericerichoffman at yahoo.com>, "datsun-roadsters: 
>> autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 8:45 AM
>> I used Intercity Lines to ship my Dad's Roadster from CA
>> to WI. It was pricey but worth it--covered transport the
>> whole way. My dad was impressed with the professionalism of
>> the husband and wife team that picked up the car on his end.
>> And the driver who dropped the car on my end was equally
>> professional.
>>
>> I have heard that some of the cheaper vehicle shippers
>> might be unscrupulous and that some drivers try to get more
>> money out of the people involved to unload the car at its
>> destination. I have not experienced this but have heard it
>> from more than one person.
>>
>> At 650ish miles, it might be cheaper to rent an appropriate
>> trailer and haul it yourself.
>>
>>
>> Tim
>> Belleville, WI.
>> '70 SPL AND SRL
>> Still clueless but always learning
>>
>> ---- Eric Hoffman <ericerichoffman at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> =============
>> Hi guys, I need to ship a truck from Mineola, Texas to
>> Alpharetta, GA.  The
>> truck is a $2000 item and my timeline is flexible.  Any
>> suggestions?
>>
>> Eric Hoffman
>> Alpharetta, GA
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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Mon Apr  6 19:33:05 2009
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:33:05 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Re:  studded tires...
In-Reply-To: <20090406133256.SE4WU.383390.root@mp08>
Message-ID: <E278DC3720DC479ABCD08AE1076DEF62@delled48909442>

You had metal in the footwells?  I was pulling the 66 on to the trailer at
night, As I was coming over the back of the trailer, halfway on, I looked
down toward the gas pedal and thought I had a fire.  Turned out it was the
trailer's tail lights shining up through the floor!!

Dave Brisco
ECR

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim [mailto:tputland at charter.net]

Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Re: studded tires...


Wow, look at that muffler. That car has been sitting outside for a very long

time. The under side of Bills new part car is rustier than one of my part
cars.
And my car had rice paper thin sheet metal in the foot well AND A-pillars.

How are the A-pillars on that car Bill?

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Mon Apr  6 19:37:16 2009
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:37:16 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] rotor and hub seperation
In-Reply-To: <1505449230.1607121239043385214.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <A7348DD5A91245B29ADF1C8CE05111A9@delled48909442>

I have the 10 ton hydraulic press in the garage..the excuse to buy it was to
separate distributor parts :)
Boy is it fun.

-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Peters [mailto:ppeters914 at comcast.net]

Yeah, but where's the fun in that? <g>

Pete "beat it to $h!t...paint it to fit"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Smith" <whamba at earthlink.net>


Tim,
My local Goodyear Dealer separated both front rotors for $5 each when I had
the rotors turned there. My $.02.
Matt Smith

From jeffzster at yahoo.com  Mon Apr  6 22:51:33 2009
From: jeffzster at yahoo.com (Jeff Torres)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:51:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Countdown to Solvang 2009
Message-ID: <687963.45544.qm@web110415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hello there everyone. Only 19 days until Solvang and we are plugging along! I
would like to take this time to thank everyone who has stepped up and
volunteered their time and or great merchandise to the show. It is truly great
to have people contact me and donate or ask to help in many ways without me
having to do to much. I can honestly say that everyone who is supporting our
show is doing it because they love Roadsters and the Roadster community out
there. Also, I am very appreciative of the vendors and parts "specialists" out
there who have enthusiastically gone out of their way to provide a service to
all of the Roadster nation. Kudos to you all and much thanks!  
 
Because of the generosity of a few individuals and businesses we are looking
at some GREAAAAAT raffle prizes for our Banquet BBQ. Some of these raffle
prizes already committed are: A totally restored set of early or late year car
gauges, 2000 & 1600 carb sets, Dizzy Electronic Ignition kits, bunches of
reproduced hard to find engine and body parts, springs and the list goes on.
Bottom line is that these these folks who donated this stuff didn't do it for
the sole purpose of making money, they did it also because they are dedicated
to keeping our cars on the road!
 
Soooooooo...remember this Saturday is the end of pre-registration. I have
missed a few regulars so far(Paul Gabriel?) Wouldn't be the same without you
guys. So get those registrations in and if you feel like pitching in for the
cause by way of a raffle prize let me know!
 
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! to all that have helped along the way.
 
Jeff T.
Lemoore, CA

From boakes at gmail.com  Tue Apr  7 05:53:58 2009
From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 06:53:58 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] rotor and hub seperation
In-Reply-To: <A7348DD5A91245B29ADF1C8CE05111A9@delled48909442>
References: <A7348DD5A91245B29ADF1C8CE05111A9@delled48909442>
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Every boy needs a dog

Every project needs a tool


On Apr 6, 2009, at 8:37 PM, "dave" <daveandlindab at comcast.net> wrote:

> I have the 10 ton hydraulic press in the garage..the excuse to buy  
> it was to
> separate distributor parts :)
> Boy is it fun.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pete Peters [mailto:ppeters914 at comcast.net]
>
> Yeah, but where's the fun in that? <g>
>
> Pete "beat it to $h!t...paint it to fit"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matthew Smith" <whamba at earthlink.net>
>
>
> Tim,
> My local Goodyear Dealer separated both front rotors for $5 each  
> when I had
> the rotors turned there. My $.02.
> Matt Smith
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Apr  7 10:30:45 2009
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:30:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] New disc brake rotors are .43 inch (was Re: Rotors--.37
 min?)
In-Reply-To: <145588951.2077981239121805267.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <2046048735.2078321239121845418.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Verified. My brand new DBA rotors measure .43-inch thick 

Pete 

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Tue Apr  7 10:54:31 2009
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:54:31 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Rotors--.37 min?
References: <1344516103.1612321239043939577.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <23B5F138DE014661BB959E61966FE17D@Daryl>

From: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
>> From the 311s.org TechWiki:
> "New rotors are approximately .433" thick with a minimum thickness of .325 
> "
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> What does a rotor measure new?
>
> Tim

I have a set of 'new' Nissan rotors, uninstalled, which I've had
for probably 20+ yrs which measure at .410" .......just to confuse the 
issue........???

Daryl 

From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Tue Apr  7 11:01:50 2009
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:01:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake rotors
In-Reply-To: <2046048735.2078321239121845418.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <65893.74732.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

This just occurred to me - and I'm surprised that I haven't run across it before: Are brake discs repairable by surface buildup weld repair and regrinding? I can foresee potential problems with this - warping especially - but maybe this is not an insurmountable obstacle?

I have seen some pretty beat-up crankshafts welded and reground, but this thread on brake rotors made me realize that I have never heard of this being done to brake discs.

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

--- On Tue, 4/7/09, Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
From: Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
Subject: [Roadsters] New disc brake rotors are .43 inch (was Re: Rotors--.37 min?)
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 9:30 AM

Verified. My brand new DBA rotors measure .43-inch thick 

Pete 
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Apr  7 11:26:31 2009
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:26:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Rotors--.37 min?
In-Reply-To: <23B5F138DE014661BB959E61966FE17D@Daryl>
Message-ID: <1537400329.2110401239125191220.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Probably due to Canadian rotor less than US rotor. <g> 

Pete 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daryl Smith" <drlsmith at dccnet.com> 
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 9:54:31 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rotors--.37 min? 

From: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net> 
>> From the 311s.org TechWiki: 
> "New rotors are approximately .433" thick with a minimum thickness of .325 
> " 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> What does a rotor measure new? 
> 
> Tim 

I have a set of 'new' Nissan rotors, uninstalled, which I've had 
for probably 20+ yrs which measure at .410" .......just to confuse the 
issue........??? 

Daryl 
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From RSCHLEGEL at OCSD.COM  Tue Apr  7 11:57:28 2009
From: RSCHLEGEL at OCSD.COM (Schlegel, Richard)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:57:28 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Auto Transport
In-Reply-To: <mailman.25.1239127203.25218.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
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Message-ID: <7205D7C8DE0E724A8EBBB88675FBE8CC9F8710AD@e07ms1.insideocsd.com>

I used Auto Transport 4 Less just in January 2009. I shipped a Honda civic
from SoCal to Camp Lejeune, NC. $875.00 door to door! No problems either.
Here is the contact info. If you do go with them, could you tell them Rich
Schlegel recommended them? I don't get anything for it but it's nice to let
them know you heard from a previous customer. Linda was very nice, kept in
contact with you all the time, and they even give you the truck drivers cell
phone number so you can know where your car is. Good Luck!
Take Care,
Rich
'68 1600
http://picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich
Member of the SoCalROC
http://higenki.com/socalroc/
Video of SoCalROC from the 2008 Japanese Classic Car Show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-kkdkaRRco

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Toll Free 1-866-HAUL 4 LESS
Phone: 714-961-9900
Fax: 714-524-3299
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>> ---- Eric Hoffman <ericerichoffman at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> =============
>> Hi guys, I need to ship a truck from Mineola, Texas to
>> Alpharetta, GA.  The
>> truck is a $2000 item and my timeline is flexible.  Any
>> suggestions?
>>
>> Eric Hoffman
>> Alpharetta, GA

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Apr  7 12:01:20 2009
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 18:01:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake rotors
In-Reply-To: <65893.74732.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1579189084.2131781239127280309.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Maybe because new rotors are fifty bucks or less on most cars. 

Pete 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary McCormick" <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net> 
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 10:01:50 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake rotors 

This just occurred to me - and I'm surprised that I haven't run across it before: Are brake discs repairable by surface buildup weld repair and regrinding? I can foresee potential problems with this - warping especially - but maybe this is not an insurmountable obstacle? 

I have seen some pretty beat-up crankshafts welded and reground, but this thread on brake rotors made me realize that I have never heard of this being done to brake discs. 

Gary McCormick 
San Jose, CA 

--- On Tue, 4/7/09, Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote: 
From: Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> 
Subject: [Roadsters] New disc brake rotors are .43 inch (was Re: Rotors--.37 min?) 
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 9:30 AM 

Verified. My brand new DBA rotors measure .43-inch thick 

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From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Tue Apr  7 13:02:38 2009
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:02:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake rotors
In-Reply-To: <1579189084.2131781239127280309.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <682939.28674.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

But what about oldies like our Roadsters, for which parts are rapidly becoming NLA?

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

--- On Tue, 4/7/09, Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
From: Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake rotors
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 11:01 AM

Maybe because new rotors are fifty bucks or less on most cars. 

Pete 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary McCormick" <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net> 
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 10:01:50 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake rotors 

This just occurred to me - and I'm surprised that I haven't run across
it before: Are brake discs repairable by surface buildup weld repair and
regrinding? I can foresee potential problems with this - warping especially -
but maybe this is not an insurmountable obstacle? 

I have seen some pretty beat-up crankshafts welded and reground, but this
thread on brake rotors made me realize that I have never heard of this being
done to brake discs. 

Gary McCormick 
San Jose, CA 

--- On Tue, 4/7/09, Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote: 
From: Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> 
Subject: [Roadsters] New disc brake rotors are .43 inch (was Re: Rotors--.37
min?) 
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 9:30 AM 

Verified. My brand new DBA rotors measure .43-inch thick 

Pete 
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From andycost at embarqmail.com  Tue Apr  7 13:50:36 2009
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Embarq Customer)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:50:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake rotors
In-Reply-To: <682939.28674.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1116265071.462811239133836553.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com>

I had a client that developed a procedure called flame spray deposition or something like that.  He had a plasma gun with a metal wire feeder like a mig welder.  Compressed air would blow the molten metal out kind of like a sand blaster.  The molten metal would stick like welding flash only in tiny particles.  He could build up parts like heads that were cut too thin, engine blocks, or brake rotors.  He could also deposit zinc on steel to make a galvanized coating on existing structures like bridges.  I thought it was kind of a neat process.  I've heard of a similar process used by the navy on ships.

Andy


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary McCormick" <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net> 
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 10:01:50 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake rotors 

This just occurred to me - and I'm surprised that I haven't run across
it before: Are brake discs repairable by surface buildup weld repair and
regrinding? I can foresee potential problems with this - warping especially -
but maybe this is not an insurmountable obstacle? 

I have seen some pretty beat-up crankshafts welded and reground, but this
thread on brake rotors made me realize that I have never heard of this being
done to brake discs. 

Gary McCormick 
San Jose, CA 

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Apr  7 14:10:31 2009
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:10:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake rotors
In-Reply-To: <682939.28674.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <414449532.2203021239135031322.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Don't know about other cars, but I'm guessing the roadster vendors have quite a few on their shelves. 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary McCormick" <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net> 
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 12:02:38 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake rotors 

But what about oldies like our Roadsters, for which parts are rapidly becoming NLA? 

Gary McCormick 
San Jose, CA 

--- On Tue, 4/7/09, Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote: 
From: Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> 
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake rotors 
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 11:01 AM 

Maybe because new rotors are fifty bucks or less on most cars. 

Pete 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary McCormick" <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net> 
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 10:01:50 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake rotors 

This just occurred to me - and I'm surprised that I haven't run across 
it before: Are brake discs repairable by surface buildup weld repair and 
regrinding? I can foresee potential problems with this - warping especially - 
but maybe this is not an insurmountable obstacle? 

I have seen some pretty beat-up crankshafts welded and reground, but this 
thread on brake rotors made me realize that I have never heard of this being 
done to brake discs. 

Gary McCormick 
San Jose, CA 

--- On Tue, 4/7/09, Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote: 
From: Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> 
Subject: [Roadsters] New disc brake rotors are .43 inch (was Re: Rotors--.37 
min?) 
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 9:30 AM 

Verified. My brand new DBA rotors measure .43-inch thick 

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From printner at att.net  Tue Apr  7 14:26:29 2009
From: printner at att.net (Tim Waltz)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:26:29 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake rotors
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	<1116265071.462811239133836553.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com>
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At that point, I think it's just cheaper to buy new rotors.   Flame spray is
expensive.

Tim


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From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Embarq
Customer
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 1:51 PM
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake rotors

I had a client that developed a procedure called flame spray deposition or
something like that.  He had a plasma gun with a metal wire feeder like a
mig welder.  Compressed air would blow the molten metal out kind of like a
sand blaster.  The molten metal would stick like welding flash only in tiny
particles.  He could build up parts like heads that were cut too thin,
engine blocks, or brake rotors.  He could also deposit zinc on steel to make
a galvanized coating on existing structures like bridges.  I thought it was
kind of a neat process.  I've heard of a similar process used by the navy on
ships.

Andy

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Apr  7 14:46:49 2009
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:46:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake rotors
In-Reply-To: <00d101c9b7bf$32ff52c0$98fdf840$@net>
Message-ID: <1440648463.2221871239137209076.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

OTOH, serious bragging rights.... "Yo, check out my rotors. They're flame sprayed!" 

Pete 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Waltz" <printner at att.net> 
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 1:26:29 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake rotors 

At that point, I think it's just cheaper to buy new rotors. Flame spray is 
expensive. 

Tim 


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From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net 
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Embarq 
Customer 
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 1:51 PM 
To: Datsun Roadster List 
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake rotors 

I had a client that developed a procedure called flame spray deposition or 
something like that. He had a plasma gun with a metal wire feeder like a 
mig welder. Compressed air would blow the molten metal out kind of like a 
sand blaster. The molten metal would stick like welding flash only in tiny 
particles. He could build up parts like heads that were cut too thin, 
engine blocks, or brake rotors. He could also deposit zinc on steel to make 
a galvanized coating on existing structures like bridges. I thought it was 
kind of a neat process. I've heard of a similar process used by the navy on 
ships. 

Andy 
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From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Tue Apr  7 15:20:24 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:20:24 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake rotors
In-Reply-To: <65893.74732.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <65893.74732.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Ummm, these are BRAKES we're talking about.  I wouldn't be so quick to 
"weld repair" brake components.  Imagine tooling down the freeway at 
65mph, and suddenly one of your break rotors explode because the metal 
was weakened by welding and grinding...

Not a good scenario. 

It's one thing to use, say, Volvo rotors and turn them down.  OR to use 
or make aftermarket rotors.  But welding and grinding an existing 
rotor?  Sounds like a recipe for disaster.  You run the risk of 
weakening the metal in a pretty critical component, which, if it fails, 
could cause a serious accident.

IF a welded engine part goes, you blow the motor.  A risk of crashing?  
Yeah, sure, MAYBE.  If you don't know how to handle a rear wheel skid, 
AND you don't keep your cool and simply press the clutch in to disengage 
the rear end, MAYBE you'll crash. 

BUT, if a welded BRAKE component goes, you'd be lucky if you didn't crash! 

Just my 2 cents... which isn't even worth half of that...

Eddie




Gary McCormick wrote:
> This just occurred to me - and I'm surprised that I haven't run across it before: Are brake discs repairable by surface buildup weld repair and regrinding? I can foresee potential problems with this - warping especially - but maybe this is not an insurmountable obstacle?
>
> I have seen some pretty beat-up crankshafts welded and reground, but this thread on brake rotors made me realize that I have never heard of this being done to brake discs.
>
> Gary McCormick
> San Jose, CA
>
> --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
> From: Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
> Subject: [Roadsters] New disc brake rotors are .43 inch (was Re: Rotors--.37 min?)
> To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 9:30 AM
>
> Verified. My brand new DBA rotors measure .43-inch thick 
>
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Apr  7 15:22:44 2009
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:22:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] For Sale: front and/or rear frame with drum brakes
In-Reply-To: <7E1B661280C74F329E2F86F69EDECB7E@MKLaptop>
Message-ID: <737543390.2240571239139364220.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Friend (not on list) is cutting up a roadster frame with drums. If anyone interested, please contact Mike directly: 

mklotz1 at comcast.net 

Mike is located in Gresham, OR 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Klotz" <mklotz1 at comcast.net 
To: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net 
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2009 7:13:51 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: roadster info 

Hi Pete, 

I'm going to be cutting up the roadster frame..... but if you know anyone that wants the front end or rear end for $25.... let me know. It's an early one with drums. I think it's a '65. 

Mike 

From datsundoc at aol.com  Tue Apr  7 16:07:24 2009
From: datsundoc at aol.com (datsundoc at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:07:24 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake rotors
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Brake rotors are cast iron. Not something you would want to weld and then use. They would likely crack and shatter. The cranks are forged steel. Very different and still potentially problamatic if you weld them due to stresses imparted into the crank. Having rotors made is not that big of a deal. As long as there is demand there will be a supply. Even one off rotors can be made pretty reasonably.



Mike


-----Original Message-----
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To: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 2:01 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake rotors








Maybe because new rotors are fifty bucks or less on most cars. 

Pete 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary McCormick" <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net> 
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 10:01:50 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake rotors 

This just occurred to me - and I'm surprised that I haven't run across it 
before: Are brake discs repairable by surface buildup weld repair and 
regrinding? I can foresee potential problems with this - warping especially - 
but maybe this is not an insurmountable obstacle? 

I have seen some pretty beat-up crankshafts welded and reground, but this thread 
on brake rotors made me realize that I have never heard of this being done to 
brake discs. 

Gary McCormick 
San Jose, CA 

--- On Tue, 4/7/09, Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote: 
From: Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> 
Subject: [Roadsters] New disc brake rotors are .43 inch (was Re: Rotors--.37 
min?) 
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 9:30 AM 

Verified. My brand new DBA rotors measure .43-inch thick 

Pete 
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From slowboy at cox.net  Tue Apr  7 19:02:37 2009
From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 18:02:37 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT The Man Rules
Message-ID: <750724CA568C4564B43C470A7BF25468@m7170n>

I have never seen them in writing and thought I would share.

 

 

The Man Rules 
At last a guy has taken the time to write this all down   

 
Finally, the guys' side of the story. 
( I must admit, it's pretty good.) 
We always hear 'the rules' 
>From the female side   

 
Now here are the rules from the male side.   

These are our rules! 
Please note.. these are all numbered '1 ' 
ON PURPOSE!   

 
1.   Men are NOT mind readers. 

1.. Learn to work the toilet seat. 
You're a big girl. If it's up, put it down.. 
We need it up, you need it down. 
You don't hear us complaining about you leaving it down. 

1. Sunday sports It's like the full moon 
or the changing of the tides. 
Let it be. 

1. Crying is blackmail. 

1. Ask for what you want. 
Let us be clear on this one: 
Subtle hints do not work! 
Strong hints do not work! 
Obvious hints do not work! 
Just say it! 

1. Yes and No are perfectly acceptable answers to almost every question. 

1. Come to us with a problem only if you want help solving it. That's what
we do. 
Sympathy is what your girlfriends are for. 


1. Anything we said 6 months ago is inadmissible in an argument. 
In fact, all comments become null and void after 7 Days. 


1. If you think you're fat, you probably are. 
Don't ask us. 

1. If something we said can be interpreted two ways and one of the ways
makes you sad or angry, we meant the   other one 

1. You can either ask us to do something 
or tell us how you want it done. 
Not both. 
If you already know best how to do it, just do it yourself. 

1. Whenever possible, Please say whatever you have to say during commercials


1. Christopher Columbus did NOT need directions and neither do we. 

1. ALL men see in only 16 colors, like Windows default settings. 
Peach, for example, is a fruit, not A color. Pumpkin is also a fruit. We
have no idea what mauve is. 

1. If it itches, it will be scratched.. 
We do that. 

1. If we ask what is wrong and you say 'nothing,' We will act like nothing's
wrong. 
We know you are lying, but it is just not worth the hassle. 

1. If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, Expect an answer you
don't want to hear. 

1. When we have to go somewhere, absolutely anything you wear is fine....
Really. 

1. Don't ask us what we're thinking about unless you are prepared to discuss
such topics as baseball or motor sports. 


1. You have enough clothes. 

1. You have too many shoes. 

1. I am in shape.  Round IS a shape! 

1. Thank you for reading this. 
Yes, I know, I have to sleep on the couch tonight. 


But did you know men really don't mind that? It's like camping. 

Pass this to as many men as you can - 
to give them a laugh. 

Pass this to as many women as you can -   
                                              to give them a bigger laugh. 

From geegc at aol.com  Tue Apr  7 19:16:51 2009
From: geegc at aol.com (geegc at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 21:16:51 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner available
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I have a set of old-style Solex carburetors, and intake manifold and a new ITG air filter assembly that I bought for my Black 2000.? The carburetors were recently rebuilt by Wolf Creek Racing in Long Island.? I took them off the 2000 because I didn't like the way they ran and replaced them with a set of SUs, which for the purists among you is probably some kind of sacrilege.

?

Anyway, the car is easier to drive with the SUs and it's time to convert the Solexes and air filter to cash. I thought I would put it out to the list before I try to sell it on eBay. If someone cuts a deal with me I can bring it up to Solvang later this month.

?

For those of you that don't want to buy them I'm curious as to your opinion of how much they should sell for. I have seen them go for well over $1000 on eBay.

?

Gary C

Los Angeles, CA

From andycost at embarqmail.com  Tue Apr  7 19:42:54 2009
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:42:54 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner
 available
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I think you should sell them to me for $100.

Andy

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Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 8:17 PM
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Subject: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner
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I'm curious as to your opinion of how much they should sell for. 

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From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Tue Apr  7 19:58:54 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:58:54 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner
 available
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I think he should give them to me for free!  LOL



Andy Cost wrote:
> I think you should sell them to me for $100.
>
> Andy
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 8:17 PM
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> available
>
> I'm curious as to your opinion of how much they should sell for. 
>
> Gary C
>
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From aultgc at att.net  Tue Apr  7 19:56:15 2009
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:56:15 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake rotors
References: <65893.74732.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5F137A235FAE42D1B05BA0C1DF227CF3@gaxp1>

Gary,

I'm sure one could repair brake rotors by welding, but new ones are 
available from Australia, and weld build-up/machining would seem to be very 
expensive in comparison.

Gary A.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary McCormick" <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 12:01 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake rotors


> This just occurred to me - and I'm surprised that I haven't run across it 
> before: Are brake discs repairable by surface buildup weld repair and 
> regrinding? I can foresee potential problems with this - warping 
> especially - but maybe this is not an insurmountable obstacle?
>
> I have seen some pretty beat-up crankshafts welded and reground, but this 
> thread on brake rotors made me realize that I have never heard of this 
> being done to brake discs.
>
> Gary McCormick
> San Jose, CA
>
> --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
> From: Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
> Subject: [Roadsters] New disc brake rotors are .43 inch (was Re: 
> Rotors--.37 min?)
> To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 9:30 AM
>
> Verified. My brand new DBA rotors measure .43-inch thick
>
> Pete
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From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Tue Apr  7 20:00:09 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:00:09 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner
 available
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Honestly, in this economy?  You're probably better off holding onto them 
to sell in a year or two when things get back to normal.  Just clean 
them really good so they don't sit with gas in them...

Eddie

geegc at aol.com wrote:
> I have a set of old-style Solex carburetors, and intake manifold and a new ITG air filter assembly that I bought for my Black 2000.? The carburetors were recently rebuilt by Wolf Creek Racing in Long Island.? I took them off the 2000 because I didn't like the way they ran and replaced them with a set of SUs, which for the purists among you is probably some kind of sacrilege.
>
> ?
>
> Anyway, the car is easier to drive with the SUs and it's time to convert the Solexes and air filter to cash. I thought I would put it out to the list before I try to sell it on eBay. If someone cuts a deal with me I can bring it up to Solvang later this month.
>
> ?
>
> For those of you that don't want to buy them I'm curious as to your opinion of how much they should sell for. I have seen them go for well over $1000 on eBay.
>
> ?
>
> Gary C
>
> Los Angeles, CA
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Tue Apr  7 20:17:28 2009
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:17:28 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner
 available
In-Reply-To: <8CB85FED4C0AAB1-F94-D8@webmailbeta-m03.sysops.aol.com>
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 Put them on EBAY with a decent reserve and see what happens. Or bring them to Solvang so that all those potential buyers can have a look.

Linda


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: geegc at aol.com
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 6:16 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner available










I have a set of old-style Solex carburetors, and intake manifold and a new ITG 
air filter assembly that I bought for my Black 2000.? The carburetors were 
recently rebuilt by Wolf Creek Racing in Long Island.? I took them off the 2000 
because I didn't like the way they ran and replaced them with a set of SUs, 
which for the purists among you is probably some kind of sacrilege.

?

Anyway, the car is easier to drive with the SUs and it's time to convert the 
Solexes and air filter to cash. I thought I would put it out to the list before 
I try to sell it on eBay. If someone cuts a deal with me I can bring it up to 
Solvang later this month.

?

For those of you that don't want to buy them I'm curious as to your opinion of 
how much they should sell for. I have seen them go for well over $1000 on eBay.

?

Gary C

Los Angeles, CA
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From jover4x4 at aol.com  Tue Apr  7 20:59:50 2009
From: jover4x4 at aol.com (jover4x4 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:59:50 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner
 available
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Gary, and List,

I have an extra set of early Type Q 44mm Solex carbs (carbs only) rebuilt by Todd at Wolf Creek that I would let go for a grand (what I paid for them).? I think for a complete set you should ask at least 50% more.? Even 2K for your complete set with original air cleaner (if you have one) would be fair market value.

Just my thoughts.

John Over

wycroc


-----Original Message-----
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To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 8:17 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner available




 Put them on EBAY with a decent reserve and see what happens. Or bring them to 
Solvang so that all those potential buyers can have a look.

Linda


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: geegc at aol.com
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 6:16 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner available










I have a set of old-style Solex carburetors, and intake manifold and a new ITG 
air filter assembly that I bought for my Black 2000.? The carburetors were 
recently rebuilt by Wolf Creek Racing in Long Island.? I took them off the 2000 
because I didn't like the way they ran and replaced them with a set of SUs, 
which for the purists among you is probably some kind of sacrilege.

?

Anyway, the car is easier to drive with the SUs and it's time to convert the 
Solexes and air filter to cash. I thought I would put it out to the list before 
I try to sell it on eBay. If someone cuts a deal with me I can bring it up to 
Solvang later this month.

?

For those of you that don't want to buy them I'm curious as to your opinion of 
how much they should sell for. I have seen them go for well over $1000 on eBay.

?

Gary C

Los Angeles, CA
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From geegc at aol.com  Tue Apr  7 21:18:13 2009
From: geegc at aol.com (geegc at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:18:13 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaneravailable
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Thanks. Voice of reason!
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:59:50 
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner
 available


Gary, and List,

I have an extra set of early Type Q 44mm Solex carbs (carbs only) rebuilt by Todd at Wolf Creek that I would let go for a grand (what I paid for them).? I think for a complete set you should ask at least 50% more.? Even 2K for your complete set with original air cleaner (if you have one) would be fair market value.

Just my thoughts.

John Over

wycroc


-----Original Message-----
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 8:17 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner available




 Put them on EBAY with a decent reserve and see what happens. Or bring them to 
Solvang so that all those potential buyers can have a look.

Linda


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: geegc at aol.com
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 6:16 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner available










I have a set of old-style Solex carburetors, and intake manifold and a new ITG 
air filter assembly that I bought for my Black 2000.? The carburetors were 
recently rebuilt by Wolf Creek Racing in Long Island.? I took them off the 2000 
because I didn't like the way they ran and replaced them with a set of SUs, 
which for the purists among you is probably some kind of sacrilege.

?

Anyway, the car is easier to drive with the SUs and it's time to convert the 
Solexes and air filter to cash. I thought I would put it out to the list before 
I try to sell it on eBay. If someone cuts a deal with me I can bring it up to 
Solvang later this month.

?

For those of you that don't want to buy them I'm curious as to your opinion of 
how much they should sell for. I have seen them go for well over $1000 on eBay.

?

Gary C

Los Angeles, CA
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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Tue Apr  7 21:54:45 2009
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:54:45 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake rotors
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You know, if there was ever a worthwile item to get reproduced, rotors would
get my vote.  The whole group buy/specification thing can be a large
undertaking, but I'd buy 2 or 3 sets if the price was right.

Dave Brisco
ECR

-----Original Message-----
From: datsundoc at aol.com [mailto:datsundoc at aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 6:07 PM
To: ppeters914 at comcast.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake rotors


Brake rotors are cast iron. Not something you would want to weld and then
use. They would likely crack and shatter. The cranks are forged steel. Very
different and still potentially problamatic if you weld them due to stresses
imparted into the crank. Having rotors made is not that big of a deal. As
long as there is demand there will be a supply. Even one off rotors can be
made pretty reasonably.



Mike


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To: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 2:01 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake rotors








Maybe because new rotors are fifty bucks or less on most cars.

Pete

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary McCormick" <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 10:01:50 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake rotors

This just occurred to me - and I'm surprised that I haven't run across it
before: Are brake discs repairable by surface buildup weld repair and
regrinding? I can foresee potential problems with this - warping especially
-
but maybe this is not an insurmountable obstacle?

I have seen some pretty beat-up crankshafts welded and reground, but this
thread
on brake rotors made me realize that I have never heard of this being done
to
brake discs.

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

--- On Tue, 4/7/09, Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
From: Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
Subject: [Roadsters] New disc brake rotors are .43 inch (was Re: Rotors--.37

min?)
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 9:30 AM

Verified. My brand new DBA rotors measure .43-inch thick

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From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Tue Apr  7 23:20:33 2009
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:20:33 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Video - 1960 Datsun Fairlady
Message-ID: <83A620725BD6435D928D8C37B2C4FA0A@Daryl>

http://drivingtv.canada.com/CarReviewVideos.php?ccID=303&search_text=

From JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net  Wed Apr  8 08:18:35 2009
From: JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net (JohnnyRoadster)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:18:35 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] NY article 280z
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/05/automobiles/collectibles/05EGO.html?ref=aut
omobiles

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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Apr  8 09:36:08 2009
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:36:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner
 available
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Not a buyer, but items don't exist without pics. 

Pete "Happy Hump Day" 

----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 6:16:51 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner available 

I have a set of old-style Solex carburetors, and intake manifold and a new ITG air filter assembly that I bought for my Black 2000.? The carburetors were recently rebuilt by Wolf Creek Racing in Long Island.? I took them off the 2000 because I didn't like the way they ran and replaced them with a set of SUs, which for the purists among you is probably some kind of sacrilege. 

? 

Anyway, the car is easier to drive with the SUs and it's time to convert the Solexes and air filter to cash. I thought I would put it out to the list before I try to sell it on eBay. If someone cuts a deal with me I can bring it up to Solvang later this month. 

? 

For those of you that don't want to buy them I'm curious as to your opinion of how much they should sell for. I have seen them go for well over $1000 on eBay. 

? 

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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Wed Apr  8 10:19:36 2009
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:19:36 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Video - 1960 Datsun Fairlady
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Cool! Nice to see the early ones getting some attention, too.

Gordon Glasgow
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From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Wed Apr  8 11:02:20 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:02:20 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed...
Message-ID: <49DCD89C.6030104@socal.rr.com>

Hi all,

I'm going to put an aftermarket steering wheel in my roadster, and 
wanted to know if anyone else who has done this knows if other Nissan 
cars use the same spline configuration on the steering shaft..

Anyone? 

Thanks...

From slowboy at cox.net  Wed Apr  8 11:30:55 2009
From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:30:55 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner
 available
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And if you haven't got the hint about how bad the economy is swinging, I
just got my Bank of America letter informing me that my MasterCard was going
from 7.99 % fixed to 17.13 % variable and their reason was the economy.  

tsk tsk tsk I opted out, they lost a customer though I'm sure many others
are going to get jammed.

Datsun Roadster content - my shiny new parts purchase list got bumped down
the list of things to do

I wonder when the gas prices will go back up......

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner
available

Honestly, in this economy?  You're probably better off holding onto them 
to sell in a year or two when things get back to normal.  Just clean 
them really good so they don't sit with gas in them...

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Wed Apr  8 11:44:17 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:44:17 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner
 available
In-Reply-To: <6464CF70C5C0476888B007D502763331@m7170n>
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"I wonder when the gas prices will go back up......



Odds are, they won't for awhile.   Traditionally, when the economy goes 
the crap, energy prices, and gas especially drop because people travel 
less.

The real problem people should be worried about is the fact that the 
trucking industry is about to go completely belly up.  If that happens, 
no goods, including FOOD will get to the stores.

The state Department according to sources I know is actually planning 
for a potential collapse in a lot of things which could result in 
complete chaos for a few months.

My advice?  Make sure you have enough food stockpiled for a couple of 
months because if that happens, you are not going to be getting any at 
the supermarket until things get fixed... which may be a few months down 
the line.  Likely scenario is that it will happen very suddenly, and 
with little warning...





SlowBoy wrote:
> And if you haven't got the hint about how bad the economy is swinging, I
> just got my Bank of America letter informing me that my MasterCard was going
> from 7.99 % fixed to 17.13 % variable and their reason was the economy.  
>
> tsk tsk tsk I opted out, they lost a customer though I'm sure many others
> are going to get jammed.
>
> Datsun Roadster content - my shiny new parts purchase list got bumped down
> the list of things to do
>
> I wonder when the gas prices will go back up......
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner
> available
>
> Honestly, in this economy?  You're probably better off holding onto them 
> to sell in a year or two when things get back to normal.  Just clean 
> them really good so they don't sit with gas in them...
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Apr  8 12:00:35 2009
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:00:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner
 available
In-Reply-To: <49DCE271.2050505@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <1995160402.2637701239213635283.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Geez, y'all are -FULL- of good news...... :--( 

Pete 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com> 
To: "SlowBoy" <slowboy at cox.net> 
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net 
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 10:44:17 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner available 

"I wonder when the gas prices will go back up...... 



Odds are, they won't for awhile. Traditionally, when the economy goes 
the crap, energy prices, and gas especially drop because people travel 
less. 

The real problem people should be worried about is the fact that the 
trucking industry is about to go completely belly up. If that happens, 
no goods, including FOOD will get to the stores. 

The state Department according to sources I know is actually planning 
for a potential collapse in a lot of things which could result in 
complete chaos for a few months. 

My advice? Make sure you have enough food stockpiled for a couple of 
months because if that happens, you are not going to be getting any at 
the supermarket until things get fixed... which may be a few months down 
the line. Likely scenario is that it will happen very suddenly, and 
with little warning... 





SlowBoy wrote: 
> And if you haven't got the hint about how bad the economy is swinging, I 
> just got my Bank of America letter informing me that my MasterCard was going 
> from 7.99 % fixed to 17.13 % variable and their reason was the economy. 
> 
> tsk tsk tsk I opted out, they lost a customer though I'm sure many others 
> are going to get jammed. 
> 
> Datsun Roadster content - my shiny new parts purchase list got bumped down 
> the list of things to do 
> 
> I wonder when the gas prices will go back up...... 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner 
> available 
> 
> Honestly, in this economy? You're probably better off holding onto them 
> to sell in a year or two when things get back to normal. Just clean 
> them really good so they don't sit with gas in them... 
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From d_kroninger at hotmail.com  Wed Apr  8 12:06:32 2009
From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:06:32 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner
 available
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I have recently seen credit card companies lower your credit limit below what
you currently have on your card, make a small note on your statement and
online, and then charge you a fee for charging over your limit.  Nice, huh.



I also got the same letter raising my rate on both of my credit cards (BOA and
Crapital One).  fortunately, I never carry a balance, so they have never
earned a penny from me.



Some people are really going to get screwed!




> From: slowboy at cox.net
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:30:55 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner
available
>
> And if you haven't got the hint about how bad the economy is swinging, I
> just got my Bank of America letter informing me that my MasterCard was
going
> from 7.99 % fixed to 17.13 % variable and their reason was the economy.
>
> tsk tsk tsk I opted out, they lost a customer though I'm sure many others
> are going to get jammed.
>
> Datsun Roadster content - my shiny new parts purchase list got bumped down
> the list of things to do
>
> I wonder when the gas prices will go back up......
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner
> available
>
> Honestly, in this economy? You're probably better off holding onto them
> to sell in a year or two when things get back to normal. Just clean
> them really good so they don't sit with gas in them...
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Apr  8 12:17:09 2009
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:17:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: from Solex carbs to collapse of trucking, no food,
 and bank  credit tomfoolery
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Yup, me, too. Paying credit card finance charges....FAIL!!! 

I think some college students did an analysis many years ago that all credit card companies would be out of business if everyone paid their full balance due every month for six months or something. It was definitely less than a year. 

Pete 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Kroninger" <d_kroninger at hotmail.com> 
To: slowboy at cox.net, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net 
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 11:06:32 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner available 

I have recently seen credit card companies lower your credit limit below what 
you currently have on your card, make a small note on your statement and 
online, and then charge you a fee for charging over your limit. Nice, huh. 



I also got the same letter raising my rate on both of my credit cards (BOA and 
Crapital One). fortunately, I never carry a balance, so they have never 
earned a penny from me. 



Some people are really going to get screwed! 




> From: slowboy at cox.net 
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net 
> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:30:55 -0700 
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner 
available 
> 
> And if you haven't got the hint about how bad the economy is swinging, I 
> just got my Bank of America letter informing me that my MasterCard was 
going 
> from 7.99 % fixed to 17.13 % variable and their reason was the economy. 
> 
> tsk tsk tsk I opted out, they lost a customer though I'm sure many others 
> are going to get jammed. 
> 
> Datsun Roadster content - my shiny new parts purchase list got bumped down 
> the list of things to do 
> 
> I wonder when the gas prices will go back up...... 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner 
> available 
> 
> Honestly, in this economy? You're probably better off holding onto them 
> to sell in a year or two when things get back to normal. Just clean 
> them really good so they don't sit with gas in them... 
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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Wed Apr  8 13:07:22 2009
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:07:22 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner
 available
In-Reply-To: <49DCE271.2050505@socal.rr.com>
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  They already have!  It was down around $1.50 a few months ago.  Now it has
crept back over $2 a gallon.  So much for the old supply and demand theory.

Paul
Ohio

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eddie
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 1:44 PM
To: SlowBoy
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner
available

"I wonder when the gas prices will go back up......



Odds are, they won't for awhile.   Traditionally, when the economy goes 
the crap, energy prices, and gas especially drop because people travel 
less.

The real problem people should be worried about is the fact that the 
trucking industry is about to go completely belly up.  If that happens, 
no goods, including FOOD will get to the stores.

The state Department according to sources I know is actually planning 
for a potential collapse in a lot of things which could result in 
complete chaos for a few months.

My advice?  Make sure you have enough food stockpiled for a couple of 
months because if that happens, you are not going to be getting any at 
the supermarket until things get fixed... which may be a few months down 
the line.  Likely scenario is that it will happen very suddenly, and 
with little warning...





SlowBoy wrote:
> And if you haven't got the hint about how bad the economy is swinging, I
> just got my Bank of America letter informing me that my MasterCard was
going
> from 7.99 % fixed to 17.13 % variable and their reason was the economy.  
>
> tsk tsk tsk I opted out, they lost a customer though I'm sure many others
> are going to get jammed.
>
> Datsun Roadster content - my shiny new parts purchase list got bumped down
> the list of things to do
>
> I wonder when the gas prices will go back up......
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner
> available
>
> Honestly, in this economy?  You're probably better off holding onto them 
> to sell in a year or two when things get back to normal.  Just clean 
> them really good so they don't sit with gas in them...
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From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:11:45 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner
 available
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-----Original Message-----
The real problem people should be worried about is the fact that the 
trucking industry is about to go completely belly up. 
**************************

  Gee, without trucks you mean we would have to buy local products?  You
mean manufacturing might have to return to this country?  You mean there
might be some jobs available?  You mean there might actually be an economy
again?

  Sounds okay to me.  But then, where could I get my roadster parts?

Paul
Ohio

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Wed Apr  8 13:15:34 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:15:34 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner
 available
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That would be a good thing EVENTUALLY, but until things get settled, 
it's going to be a colossal mess, and the potential for a lot of death 
and destruction is pretty high...



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> The real problem people should be worried about is the fact that the 
> trucking industry is about to go completely belly up. 
> **************************
>
>   Gee, without trucks you mean we would have to buy local products?  You
> mean manufacturing might have to return to this country?  You mean there
> might be some jobs available?  You mean there might actually be an economy
> again?
>
>   Sounds okay to me.  But then, where could I get my roadster parts?
>
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From andycost at embarqmail.com  Wed Apr  8 13:51:43 2009
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Embarq Customer)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:51:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner
 available
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Money is a commodity like oranges and oil.  Flood the market and the value drops.  The fed is printing money like it is going out of style so every dollar in your pocket is worth less each day.  The way credit companies generate income is to charge interest.  If the dollar is worth less every day then they have to charge more interest to stay in business.  It is no wonder the Chinese and others are pushing to change the world economy from being based on the dollar.  We are destroying the value of the dollar dragging the whole world down with us.

rant over,

Andy


----- Original Message -----
From: "SlowBoy" <slowboy at cox.net>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 12:30:55 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner available

And if you haven't got the hint about how bad the economy is swinging, I
just got my Bank of America letter informing me that my MasterCard was going
from 7.99 % fixed to 17.13 % variable and their reason was the economy.  

tsk tsk tsk I opted out, they lost a customer though I'm sure many others
are going to get jammed.

Datsun Roadster content - my shiny new parts purchase list got bumped down
the list of things to do

I wonder when the gas prices will go back up......

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner
available

Honestly, in this economy?  You're probably better off holding onto them 
to sell in a year or two when things get back to normal.  Just clean 
them really good so they don't sit with gas in them...
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From PDFenter at aol.com  Wed Apr  8 13:53:40 2009
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:53:40 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] back to datsuns please
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From matt at vander-bend.com  Wed Apr  8 14:02:14 2009
From: matt at vander-bend.com (Matt Jacquet)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:02:14 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] back to datsuns please
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I'll second that motion.. I got enough problems.

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From markbennett1 at shaw.ca  Wed Apr  8 14:08:10 2009
From: markbennett1 at shaw.ca (Mark Bennett)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:08:10 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] back to datsuns please
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Me too, where's my rope?  Can't afford the bullet!

Mark

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I'll second that motion.. I got enough problems.

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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Apr  8 14:17:28 2009
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 20:17:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] back to datsuns please
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Like how to pay for that next silver roadster? <g> 

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! 

Pete 

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I'll second that motion.. I got enough problems. 

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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Wed Apr  8 14:50:02 2009
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:50:02 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] back to datsuns please
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 Somebody better ask a Datsun question or this could go on forever...
Linda


 


 

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Like how to pay for that next silver roadster? <g> 

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! 

Pete 

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I'll second that motion.. I got enough problems. 

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From printner at att.net  Wed Apr  8 15:03:37 2009
From: printner at att.net (Tim Waltz)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:03:37 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] machine shop
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We all needed a datsun question:


I've never rebuilt an engine before, although I have friends in the area
that are great resources and have offered to help.

I'm stroking my 1600 engine.  Should I use standard or larger U20 pistons,
and when I do, what dimensions might the machine shop need??

Tim Waltz
67.5 1600

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Wed Apr  8 15:07:23 2009
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:07:23 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Video - 1960 Datsun Fairlady
References: <C6025B82.15015%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>
Message-ID: <3FE0D5D3DFAC4F83B0BED8DF56DC5DB4@Daryl>

Don't know who did it or owns it, but I belieive the show is based in 
Vancouver, and it was pointed out on 311s.org that it may be the car in the 
picture at this site:
http://www.dnbc.ca/
That picture was taken in North Vancouver.

Daryl

From: "Gregory S. Morrison" <gsm at gregorysmorrison.com>

> That's a beautiful restoration! Does anyone on the list know who did it? 
> Or
> who owns it?
>
> Greg
> SRL31100494
>
>
> On 4/7/09 10:20 PM, "Daryl Smith" <drlsmith at dccnet.com> wrote:
>
>> http://drivingtv.canada.com/CarReviewVideos.php?ccID=303&search_text=

From gcallahan at prodigy.net  Wed Apr  8 15:15:40 2009
From: gcallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:15:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Video - 1960 Datsun Fairlady
Message-ID: <511813.70864.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Great video!  Thanks!
 
 
Gary Callahan
Beaverton, Oregon
 

--- On Tue, 4/7/09, Daryl Smith <drlsmith at dccnet.com> wrote:


From: Daryl Smith <drlsmith at dccnet.com>
Subject: [Roadsters] Video - 1960 Datsun Fairlady
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 10:20 PM


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From RSCHLEGEL at OCSD.COM  Wed Apr  8 15:32:50 2009
From: RSCHLEGEL at OCSD.COM (Schlegel, Richard)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:32:50 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] STROKING A 1600?
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How is this Linda?
Why stroke a 1600 over just buying a 2000 and putting it in? Doesn't it make
the 1600 less reliable by stroking it? What are the benefits?
Also it sure would be nice to delete the extra text not needed when replying.
The last digest had about 4 lines of new text and everything else was from the
previous digest.
Thanks
Rich

-----Original Message-----
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] back to datsuns please

Somebody better ask a Datsun question or this could go on forever...
Linda

-----Original Message-----
From: "Tim Waltz" <printner at att.net>
Subject: [Roadsters] machine shop

We all needed a datsun question:
I've never rebuilt an engine before, although I have friends in the area
that are great resources and have offered to help.
I'm stroking my 1600 engine.  Should I use standard or larger U20 pistons,
and when I do, what dimensions might the machine shop need??
Tim Waltz
67.5 1600

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Wed Apr  8 15:40:42 2009
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:40:42 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] STROKING A 1600?
Message-ID: <c39.503a7b91.370e73da@aol.com>

Price a timing chain/sprocket set for a U20 engine and one for a R16/H20.
The stroker R16 is very reliable. There is also the stealth factor of having
a  2L that looks like a 1.6.

The U20 was only used in one car so the price of some of the bits is
getting high. The R16/H20 was used in many things for quite a long time. This
makes the parts much more reasonable.

keith


In a message dated 4/8/2009 2:33:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
RSCHLEGEL at OCSD.COM writes:

How is  this Linda?
Why stroke a 1600 over just buying a 2000 and putting it in?  Doesn't it
make
the 1600 less reliable by stroking it? What are the  benefits?
Also it sure would be nice to delete the extra text not needed  when
replying.
The last digest had about 4 lines of new text and everything  else was from
the
previous digest.
Thanks
Rich

-----Original  Message-----
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] back  to datsuns please

Somebody better ask a Datsun question or this could  go on forever...
Linda

-----Original Message-----
From: "Tim  Waltz" <printner at att.net>
Subject: [Roadsters] machine shop

We  all needed a datsun question:
I've never rebuilt an engine before, although  I have friends in the area
that are great resources and have offered to  help.
I'm stroking my 1600 engine.  Should I use standard or larger  U20 pistons,
and when I do, what dimensions might the machine shop  need??
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67.5  1600
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From sandhoff at csus.edu  Wed Apr  8 15:58:05 2009
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:58:05 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] STROKING A 1600?
In-Reply-To: <7205D7C8DE0E724A8EBBB88675FBE8CC9F9E0B33@e07ms1.insideocsd.com>
References: <mailman.20062.1239228879.3542.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <49DCBB7D.18576.15E2729@localhost>

> Why stroke a 1600 over just buying a 2000 and putting it in?
> Doesn't it make the 1600 less reliable by stroking it?

The 1600 is a pretty bulletproof engine, whereas the 2000 may
put its timing chain thru the hood if you don't take care of it.

<<  Add lots of smilies  >>

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From printner at att.net  Wed Apr  8 16:25:19 2009
From: printner at att.net (Tim Waltz)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:25:19 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker
In-Reply-To: <c39.503a7b91.370e73da@aol.com>
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Another stroker option I've heard of is using the longer (R16) rods, and
later Nissan (280Z, 300Z?) pistons.

Has anyone ever heard of this, done this, or have any insight on this?
I've heard it has more torque and lower rod angles.  Sounds like a great
option, but I need more info.

TIA

Tim
67.5 1600 waiting to be stroked
(that doesn't sound right)

From slowboy at cox.net  Wed Apr  8 16:40:32 2009
From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:40:32 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] STROKING A 1600?
In-Reply-To: <7205D7C8DE0E724A8EBBB88675FBE8CC9F9E0B33@e07ms1.insideocsd.com>
References: <mailman.20062.1239228879.3542.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
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Message-ID: <E6A9BCEC261C45069226F1D809FCACD3@m7170n>

The whole thread in all the emails is actually a nice thing. When the thread
is done I only save the one with all the information. It makes for a nice
resource when I need information that is a bit tough to hunt done in the
archives.

-----Original Message-----
From: 


Also it sure would be nice to delete the extra text not needed when
replying.
The last digest had about 4 lines of new text and everything else was from
the
previous digest.

From wilhouse at charter.net  Wed Apr  8 17:03:29 2009
From: wilhouse at charter.net (Ken & Tammy Williams)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:03:29 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Road America in May
Message-ID: <808B09FE440D46838D9935783565B19E@wilhouse>

Hey fellow Roadster-ites,
The Spring Vintage Weekend is May 15-17 at Road America.  Tammy and I are
planning to drive up in the Datsun, weather permitting of course.  If anybody
is interested, there is a great, official, Wisconsin Scenic Highway all the
way from Whitewater Lake (near Whitewater, WI), to Elkhart Lake, WI.  If you
weren't aware, Road America is very near Elkhart Lake too.  Coincidence?  I
think not!  We are hoping to leave bright and early Saturday, from the
Janesville area and trying to follow the Scenic Highway to Elkhart Lake.  We
have tried this a couple of times from each direction, and have managed to
lose track of the route along the way.  It is not well marked in places.  The
route is narrow, winding back roads, through several state forests.  Very
scenic.  Very likely where they thought up the name, but maybe not.  I mapped
it out with the help of Mr Google, but the map doesn't do the route justice.
We drove back from EL this weekend, and managed to get lost again.  The trip
took about 4 hours, so certainly not the fast way, but may be the most fun.
We are planning to spend Saturday night somewhere in the area, and make the
return trip some time on Sunday.
Anybody care to join along the way?  I can send specifics about cross roads
etc if you would like to join us in the Milwaukee area or anywhere along the
route.
Happy Roadster-ing,
Ken Williams
'67 1600
Janesville, WI
If anybody is interested, search for the Kettle Moraine Scenic Drive.

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Wed Apr  8 17:20:58 2009
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:20:58 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker
References: <c39.503a7b91.370e73da@aol.com>
	<007601c9b898$f7381f80$e5a85e80$@net>
Message-ID: <818A78036BDD42F8B0B664E6EC063258@Daryl>

I keep hearing about it, but haven't heard any definitive information on the 
correct pistons to use.
The rod angles will be slightly smaller, but from my reading this will 
minimally affect power and torque.
The 280/300z pistons may however be cheaper than U20 pistons which may make 
it a more attractive option to some.......
Read this thread for a detailed discussion:
http://www.gofastnews.com/board/engine-technology/85-rod-ratio-vers-eng-acceleration.html

Daryl


From: "Tim Waltz" <printner at att.net>

> Another stroker option I've heard of is using the longer (R16) rods, and
> later Nissan (280Z, 300Z?) pistons.
>
> Has anyone ever heard of this, done this, or have any insight on this?
> I've heard it has more torque and lower rod angles.  Sounds like a great
> option, but I need more info.
>
> TIA
>
> Tim
> 67.5 1600 waiting to be stroked
> (that doesn't sound right)

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Wed Apr  8 17:25:15 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:25:15 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] back to datsuns please
In-Reply-To: <8CB86A2B91D616A-16A4-1949@mblk-d42.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CB86A2B91D616A-16A4-1949@mblk-d42.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <A37B1437-792E-48F2-BAC9-1D0212E6E37A@socal.rr.com>

Yeah cause why should we discuss anything trivial like emergency  
preparedness on the hole roadster list?  LOL.

I'm always amazed at how people will willingly talk about storm  
preparedness but god forbid anyone talk about being ready in case  
basic services shut down for a short while.

I mean it's not like the government dropped the ball before.   Uh,  
wait... Katrina.... Nevermind.   LOL

Sent from my iPhone plz excuse typing errors.  :-)


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From gogineni.alvin at gene.com  Wed Apr  8 17:59:00 2009
From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:59:00 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] back to datsuns please
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Wonder if I'll get to drive that RHD roadster at Solvang again...

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2525065890100628195iRbfoJ

:)

On Apr 8, 2009, at 4:25 PM, Eddie wrote:

> Yeah cause why should we discuss anything trivial like emergency  
> preparedness on the hole roadster list?  LOL.
>
> I'm always amazed at how people will willingly talk about storm  
> preparedness but god forbid anyone talk about being ready in case  
> basic services shut down for a short while.
>
> I mean it's not like the government dropped the ball before.   Uh,  
> wait... Katrina.... Nevermind.   LOL
>
> Sent from my iPhone plz excuse typing errors.  :-)
>
>
> On Apr 8, 2009, at 1:50 PM, ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote:
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From aultgc at att.net  Wed Apr  8 20:10:56 2009
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:10:56 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed...
References: <49DCD89C.6030104@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <D4A8D4810355491DA1078625E828698E@gaxp1>

Eddie,

I am not sure abaout the later (collapsible) steering columns, but I don't 
think adapters for other wheels will fit the early columns.  If there is 
one, I'd like to know.

Grants used to make an adapter for early roadster. but they no longer have 
the tooling.

Gary
----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:02 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed...


> Hi all,
>
> I'm going to put an aftermarket steering wheel in my roadster, and wanted 
> to know if anyone else who has done this knows if other Nissan cars use 
> the same spline configuration on the steering shaft..
>
> Anyone?
> Thanks...
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Wed Apr  8 20:14:38 2009
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:14:38 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] back to datsuns please
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	<A37B1437-792E-48F2-BAC9-1D0212E6E37A@socal.rr.com>
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 RHD burnout? 

Linda 

 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alvin Gogineni <gogineni.alvin at gene.com>
To: Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
Cc: ljordan704 at netscape.net <ljordan704 at netscape.net>; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 4:59 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] back to datsuns please









Wonder if I'll get to drive that RHD roadster at Solvang again...?
?

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2525065890100628195iRbfoJ?
?

From aultgc at att.net  Wed Apr  8 20:24:54 2009
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:24:54 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] machine shop
References: <1447993539.2711201239221848257.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><8CB86A2B91D616A-16A4-1949@mblk-d42.sysops.aol.com>
	<004101c9b88d$8d6fbe60$a84f3b20$@net>
Message-ID: <37E2676AF87D44B0AF1C95A17FD09CA1@gaxp1>

A capable machine shop will tell you in advance how much they need to bore 
the block.  When I hade my U20 rebuilt, the shop told me they wanted to bore 
theblock 0.020 over, so that's the pistons I bought.

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Waltz" <printner at att.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 4:03 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] machine shop


> We all needed a datsun question:
>
>
> I've never rebuilt an engine before, although I have friends in the area
> that are great resources and have offered to help.
>
> I'm stroking my 1600 engine.  Should I use standard or larger U20 pistons,
> and when I do, what dimensions might the machine shop need??
>
> Tim Waltz
> 67.5 1600
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From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Wed Apr  8 20:30:38 2009
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:30:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] voltage regulator
In-Reply-To: <37E2676AF87D44B0AF1C95A17FD09CA1@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <147721.99049.qm@web82806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

a definite datsun question!
 
in case i don't find the voltage regulator for my early 67 (it arrived in kit
form), is there a replacement i can get at a flaps? 
 
thanks

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Wed Apr  8 20:38:48 2009
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:38:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] voltage regulator
In-Reply-To: <8CB86D01203572A-1628-23EB@WEBMAIL-MC14.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <392854.69901.qm@web82804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

sorry - i'm talking about the one for the instruments, not the one for the
alternator.
 
thanks!

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Apr  8 23:00:49 2009
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:00:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] voltage regulator
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Message-ID: <1556574542.2937231239253249956.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

No and NLA from Nissan. Same one was used in many 60's Datsuns, so should be easy to find one. 

That said, someone replaced created a solid state version, however, IIRC, our resident Gauge Guru said there's a problem with that. Don't remember if the discussion was here and/or on the 311s.org forum. 

Pete 

----- Original Message ----- 
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To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net 
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 7:38:48 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: [Roadsters] voltage regulator 

sorry - i'm talking about the one for the instruments, not the one for the 
alternator. 

thanks! 
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From aultgc at att.net  Wed Apr  8 23:23:47 2009
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 00:23:47 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] voltage regulator
References: <1556574542.2937231239253249956.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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Available from both Dean and Dann, maybe others.  Early and late cars were 
different.  I may have a late one used, but my parts supply is presently in 
disarray while we remodel the storage area.  I'll check if you're 
interested.

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] voltage regulator


> No and NLA from Nissan. Same one was used in many 60's Datsuns, so should 
> be easy to find one.
>
> That said, someone replaced created a solid state version, however, IIRC, 
> our resident Gauge Guru said there's a problem with that. Don't remember 
> if the discussion was here and/or on the 311s.org forum.
>
> Pete
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "oliver" <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 7:38:48 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: [Roadsters] voltage regulator
>
> sorry - i'm talking about the one for the instruments, not the one for the
> alternator.
>
> thanks!
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Wed Apr  8 23:47:46 2009
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:47:46 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker
In-Reply-To: <818A78036BDD42F8B0B664E6EC063258@Daryl>
References: <c39.503a7b91.370e73da@aol.com>
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The guys at Circle Track magazine did a pretty thorough test of this a few
years ago. Basically a longer rod will broaden the power band because the
piston sits at TDC longer and the angularity of rod and crank improves the
leverage slightly. In a 350 ci Chevy at 9000 rpm, it makes a difference, but
you probably won't be able to tell the difference on a street motor.

Basic truths for the technically-inclined:

With a longer rod, the piston will remain near TDC and BDC longer. At TDC on
the Power stroke, this allows cylinder pressures to build a bit higher.

Since the piston has to traverse the whole cylinder during each cycle, and
since the maximum piston speed at the middle of the cycle will be the same
regardless of rod length, this means that piston ACCELERATION will be
somewhat greater with a longer rod. Again, this may be a factor at 9000 rpm
with super-light pistons, but not in a street motor.

A longer rod will also weigh more than a shorter rod, while the piston
weight will change very little (if at all). This may reduce the ability of
the engine to rev, partly offsetting the gains from the first factor.

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daryl Smith
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 4:21 PM
To: Tim Waltz; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker

I keep hearing about it, but haven't heard any definitive information on the

correct pistons to use.
The rod angles will be slightly smaller, but from my reading this will 
minimally affect power and torque.
The 280/300z pistons may however be cheaper than U20 pistons which may make 
it a more attractive option to some.......
Read this thread for a detailed discussion:
http://www.gofastnews.com/board/engine-technology/85-rod-ratio-vers-eng-acce
leration.html

Daryl


From: "Tim Waltz" <printner at att.net>

> Another stroker option I've heard of is using the longer (R16) rods, and
> later Nissan (280Z, 300Z?) pistons.
>
> Has anyone ever heard of this, done this, or have any insight on this?
> I've heard it has more torque and lower rod angles.  Sounds like a great
> option, but I need more info.
>
> TIA
>
> Tim
> 67.5 1600 waiting to be stroked
> (that doesn't sound right)
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From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Thu Apr  9 00:12:01 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:12:01 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed...
In-Reply-To: <D4A8D4810355491DA1078625E828698E@gaxp1>
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	<D4A8D4810355491DA1078625E828698E@gaxp1>
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The later and earlier columns use the same spline for the steering wheel. 

I'm actually told that Nissan used the same spline configuration for ALL 
of their cars for many years...

Will let you know what I find out.  :-)

Eddie

Gary and Cindy Ault wrote:
> Eddie,
>
> I am not sure abaout the later (collapsible) steering columns, but I 
> don't think adapters for other wheels will fit the early columns.  If 
> there is one, I'd like to know.
>
> Grants used to make an adapter for early roadster. but they no longer 
> have the tooling.
>
> Gary
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
> To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:02 PM
> Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed...
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm going to put an aftermarket steering wheel in my roadster, and 
>> wanted to know if anyone else who has done this knows if other Nissan 
>> cars use the same spline configuration on the steering shaft..
>>
>> Anyone?
>> Thanks...
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From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Thu Apr  9 00:23:00 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:23:00 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker
In-Reply-To: <000e01c9b8d6$b6333090$229991b0$@net>
References: <c39.503a7b91.370e73da@aol.com>
	<007601c9b898$f7381f80$e5a85e80$@net>
	<818A78036BDD42F8B0B664E6EC063258@Daryl>
	<000e01c9b8d6$b6333090$229991b0$@net>
Message-ID: <49DD9444.8030006@socal.rr.com>

I thought the longer rod also pushed the piston farther "up" the 
cylinder wall, thus compressing the gas MORE... and that's where the 
power gain came from...

Isn't that also the case?

Eddie



Gordon Glasgow wrote:
> The guys at Circle Track magazine did a pretty thorough test of this a few
> years ago. Basically a longer rod will broaden the power band because the
> piston sits at TDC longer and the angularity of rod and crank improves the
> leverage slightly. In a 350 ci Chevy at 9000 rpm, it makes a difference, but
> you probably won't be able to tell the difference on a street motor.
>
> Basic truths for the technically-inclined:
>
> With a longer rod, the piston will remain near TDC and BDC longer. At TDC on
> the Power stroke, this allows cylinder pressures to build a bit higher.
>
> Since the piston has to traverse the whole cylinder during each cycle, and
> since the maximum piston speed at the middle of the cycle will be the same
> regardless of rod length, this means that piston ACCELERATION will be
> somewhat greater with a longer rod. Again, this may be a factor at 9000 rpm
> with super-light pistons, but not in a street motor.
>
> A longer rod will also weigh more than a shorter rod, while the piston
> weight will change very little (if at all). This may reduce the ability of
> the engine to rev, partly offsetting the gains from the first factor.
>
> Gordon Glasgow
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daryl Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 4:21 PM
> To: Tim Waltz; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker
>
> I keep hearing about it, but haven't heard any definitive information on the
>
> correct pistons to use.
> The rod angles will be slightly smaller, but from my reading this will 
> minimally affect power and torque.
> The 280/300z pistons may however be cheaper than U20 pistons which may make 
> it a more attractive option to some.......
> Read this thread for a detailed discussion:
> http://www.gofastnews.com/board/engine-technology/85-rod-ratio-vers-eng-acce
> leration.html
>
> Daryl
>
>
> From: "Tim Waltz" <printner at att.net>
>
>   
>> Another stroker option I've heard of is using the longer (R16) rods, and
>> later Nissan (280Z, 300Z?) pistons.
>>
>> Has anyone ever heard of this, done this, or have any insight on this?
>> I've heard it has more torque and lower rod angles.  Sounds like a great
>> option, but I need more info.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Tim
>> 67.5 1600 waiting to be stroked
>> (that doesn't sound right)
>>     
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From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Thu Apr  9 00:23:15 2009
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:23:15 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker
References: <c39.503a7b91.370e73da@aol.com>
	<007601c9b898$f7381f80$e5a85e80$@net>
	<818A78036BDD42F8B0B664E6EC063258@Daryl>
	<000e01c9b8d6$b6333090$229991b0$@net>
Message-ID: <22163D8E94FB440D93D2F7051EEB4FD5@Daryl>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
>
> A longer rod will also weigh more than a shorter rod, while the piston
> weight will change very little (if at all). This may reduce the ability of
> the engine to rev, partly offsetting the gains from the first factor.
>
> Gordon Glasgow

Good explanation Gordon.
As far as the rods go though I was under the impression that the R16 rod was 
lighter than the U20 rod, and that the shorter piston
(shorter pin height because of the longer rod) should save a few grams 
also....??? The pistons in this case would be about 8 mm shorter in this 
case for the long rod stroker. I would expect a reduced weight with that 
much difference in pin height.........

Anyone know what these rods weigh?

Daryl 

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Thu Apr  9 00:40:54 2009
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:40:54 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker
References: <c39.503a7b91.370e73da@aol.com>
	<007601c9b898$f7381f80$e5a85e80$@net>
	<818A78036BDD42F8B0B664E6EC063258@Daryl>
	<000e01c9b8d6$b6333090$229991b0$@net> <49DD9444.8030006@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <F90C6B2212E240BCA522BE5C16753824@Daryl>

Not really. There is only so much cylinder height. and ideally for the same 
displacement/bore/stroke, they should start and stop at the same spot in the 
cylinder, near the top to get the best squish........

Daryl

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker


>I thought the longer rod also pushed the piston farther "up" the cylinder 
>wall, thus compressing the gas MORE... and that's where the power gain came 
>from...
>
> Isn't that also the case?
>
> Eddie

> Gordon Glasgow wrote:
>> The guys at Circle Track magazine did a pretty thorough test of this a 
>> few
>> years ago. Basically a longer rod will broaden the power band because the
>> piston sits at TDC longer and the angularity of rod and crank improves 
>> the
>> leverage slightly. In a 350 ci Chevy at 9000 rpm, it makes a difference, 
>> but
>> you probably won't be able to tell the difference on a street motor.
>>
>> Basic truths for the technically-inclined:
>>
>> With a longer rod, the piston will remain near TDC and BDC longer. At TDC 
>> on
>> the Power stroke, this allows cylinder pressures to build a bit higher.
>>
>> Since the piston has to traverse the whole cylinder during each cycle, 
>> and
>> since the maximum piston speed at the middle of the cycle will be the 
>> same
>> regardless of rod length, this means that piston ACCELERATION will be
>> somewhat greater with a longer rod. Again, this may be a factor at 9000 
>> rpm
>> with super-light pistons, but not in a street motor.
>>
>> A longer rod will also weigh more than a shorter rod, while the piston
>> weight will change very little (if at all). This may reduce the ability 
>> of
>> the engine to rev, partly offsetting the gains from the first factor.
>>
>> Gordon Glasgow
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
>> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daryl Smith
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 4:21 PM
>> To: Tim Waltz; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker
>>
>> I keep hearing about it, but haven't heard any definitive information on 
>> the
>>
>> correct pistons to use.
>> The rod angles will be slightly smaller, but from my reading this will 
>> minimally affect power and torque.
>> The 280/300z pistons may however be cheaper than U20 pistons which may 
>> make it a more attractive option to some.......
>> Read this thread for a detailed discussion:
>> http://www.gofastnews.com/board/engine-technology/85-rod-ratio-vers-eng-acce
>> leration.html
>>
>> Daryl
>>
>>
>> From: "Tim Waltz" <printner at att.net>
>>
>>
>>> Another stroker option I've heard of is using the longer (R16) rods, and
>>> later Nissan (280Z, 300Z?) pistons.
>>>
>>> Has anyone ever heard of this, done this, or have any insight on this?
>>> I've heard it has more torque and lower rod angles.  Sounds like a great
>>> option, but I need more info.
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>> Tim
>>> 67.5 1600 waiting to be stroked
>>> (that doesn't sound right)

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Thu Apr  9 00:53:37 2009
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 23:53:37 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker
In-Reply-To: <22163D8E94FB440D93D2F7051EEB4FD5@Daryl>
References: <c39.503a7b91.370e73da@aol.com>
	<007601c9b898$f7381f80$e5a85e80$@net>
	<818A78036BDD42F8B0B664E6EC063258@Daryl>
	<000e01c9b8d6$b6333090$229991b0$@net>
	<22163D8E94FB440D93D2F7051EEB4FD5@Daryl>
Message-ID: <001201c9b8df$e9626f90$bc274eb0$@net>

Okay, here are some measurements (in grams). I'll verify them tomorrow when
I'm not so tired.

			R16		U20
		   --------    --------
Piston w/pin      580         652
Rod               798         899

Just because the pin height is higher in one piston doesn't necessarily mean
the piston is shorter (and thus lighter).

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: Daryl Smith [mailto:drlsmith at dccnet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:23 PM
To: Gordon Glasgow; 'Tim Waltz'; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
>
> A longer rod will also weigh more than a shorter rod, while the piston
> weight will change very little (if at all). This may reduce the ability of
> the engine to rev, partly offsetting the gains from the first factor.
>
> Gordon Glasgow

Good explanation Gordon.
As far as the rods go though I was under the impression that the R16 rod was

lighter than the U20 rod, and that the shorter piston
(shorter pin height because of the longer rod) should save a few grams 
also....??? The pistons in this case would be about 8 mm shorter in this 
case for the long rod stroker. I would expect a reduced weight with that 
much difference in pin height.........

Anyone know what these rods weigh?

Daryl 

From mark at dealermats.com  Thu Apr  9 04:55:01 2009
From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 06:55:01 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed...
In-Reply-To: <49DD91B1.9050500@socal.rr.com>
References: <49DCD89C.6030104@socal.rr.com>
	<D4A8D4810355491DA1078625E828698E@gaxp1>
	<49DD91B1.9050500@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <0B7CB42E-820B-482D-8F2B-519B40AE7098@dealermats.com>

Grant adapter for an 87 Jeep Wrangler will work.  The splines are not  
the issue on the early cars, there is not much room between the dash  
and end of the column,  that being said it works if you move the turn  
signals back some.  As far as I know all aftermarket steering wheels  
lose the turn signal self cancel feature.


Mark






On Apr 9, 2009, at 2:12 AM, Eddie wrote:

> The later and earlier columns use the same spline for the steering  
> wheel.
> I'm actually told that Nissan used the same spline configuration for  
> ALL of their cars for many years...
>
> Will let you know what I find out.  :-)
>
> Eddie
>
> Gary and Cindy Ault wrote:
>> Eddie,
>>
>> I am not sure abaout the later (collapsible) steering columns, but  
>> I don't think adapters for other wheels will fit the early  
>> columns.  If there is one, I'd like to know.
>>
>> Grants used to make an adapter for early roadster. but they no  
>> longer have the tooling.
>>
>> Gary
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
>> To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:02 PM
>> Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed...
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm going to put an aftermarket steering wheel in my roadster, and  
>>> wanted to know if anyone else who has done this knows if other  
>>> Nissan cars use the same spline configuration on the steering  
>>> shaft..
>>>
>>> Anyone?
>>> Thanks...
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From msedlack at neo.rr.com  Thu Apr  9 07:31:20 2009
From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:31:20 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed...
References: <49DCD89C.6030104@socal.rr.com><D4A8D4810355491DA1078625E828698E@gaxp1>
	<49DD91B1.9050500@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <23A6786A88074DD29D23B9C929F27DA9@p53ghzduo>

I used a Grant Signature wheel with Grant adapter # 4581
http://www.grantproducts.com/p-380-4581.aspx  on our custom '66

Some specific pics of the adapter at www.mildevco.net/grant_wheel.htm and 
wheel
http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/images/Almost_done/DSCF0846.jpg

Mark Sedlack
ZROC
Cuyahoga Falls OH
66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
To: "Gary and Cindy Ault" <aultgc at att.net>
Cc: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 2:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed...


> The later and earlier columns use the same spline for the steering wheel.
> I'm actually told that Nissan used the same spline configuration for ALL 
> of their cars for many years...
>
> Will let you know what I find out.  :-)
>
> Eddie
>
> Gary and Cindy Ault wrote:
>> Eddie,
>>
>> I am not sure abaout the later (collapsible) steering columns, but I 
>> don't think adapters for other wheels will fit the early columns.  If 
>> there is one, I'd like to know.
>>
>> Grants used to make an adapter for early roadster. but they no longer 
>> have the tooling.
>>
>> Gary
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
>> To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:02 PM
>> Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed...
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm going to put an aftermarket steering wheel in my roadster, and 
>>> wanted to know if anyone else who has done this knows if other Nissan 
>>> cars use the same spline configuration on the steering shaft..
>>>
>>> Anyone?
>>> Thanks...
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Thu Apr  9 08:32:30 2009
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:32:30 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed...
In-Reply-To: <49DD91B1.9050500@socal.rr.com>
References: <49DCD89C.6030104@socal.rr.com><D4A8D4810355491DA1078625E828698E@gaxp1>
	<49DD91B1.9050500@socal.rr.com>
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 Eddie,
Are you doing a Grant wheel or Momo? The Momo adapter that will work is for the 240Z #3503. The Roadster #3500 is NLA. 
I have another adapter that didn't work for me but you are welcome to try it.

Linda


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
To: Gary and Cindy Ault <aultgc at att.net>
Cc: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:12 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed...









The later and earlier columns use the same spline for the steering wheel. ?

I'm actually told that Nissan used the same spline configuration for ALL 
of their cars for many years...?
?

Will let you know what I find out.  :-)?
?

Eddie?
?

Gary and Cindy Ault wrote:?

> Eddie,?

>?

> I am not sure abaout the later (collapsible) steering columns, but I 
> don't think adapters for other wheels will fit the early columns.  If 
> there is one, I'd like to know.?

>?

> Grants used to make an adapter for early roadster. but they no longer 
> have the tooling.?

>?

> Gary?

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>?

> To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>?

> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:02 PM?

> Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed...?

>?

>?

>> Hi all,?

>>?

>> I'm going to put an aftermarket steering wheel in my roadster, and 
>> wanted to know if anyone else who has done this knows if other Nissan 
>> cars use the same spline configuration on the steering shaft..?

>>?

>> Anyone??

>> Thanks...?

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From Walter.Peterson at cox.net  Thu Apr  9 09:30:24 2009
From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter Peterson)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:30:24 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker
In-Reply-To: <818A78036BDD42F8B0B664E6EC063258@Daryl>
References: <c39.503a7b91.370e73da@aol.com>
	<007601c9b898$f7381f80$e5a85e80$@net>
	<818A78036BDD42F8B0B664E6EC063258@Daryl>
Message-ID: <000001c9b928$1a57c580$4f075080$@Peterson@cox.net>

I used a set of custom J&E pistons.  The SIGNIFICANTLY longer rods are
better for high RPM's.  The R16 rod is the longest rod Nissan ever produced!
The oil ring is skinnier as are the others, because the wrist pin is pushed
pretty far up the skirt.


Walter Peterson
Goleta Ca, 93117
Street driven race motor
2000 3-Main(R) Solexes,cam etc.
5-Speed & LSD.


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daryl Smith
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 4:21 PM
To: Tim Waltz; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker

I keep hearing about it, but haven't heard any definitive information on the

correct pistons to use.
The rod angles will be slightly smaller, but from my reading this will 
minimally affect power and torque.
The 280/300z pistons may however be cheaper than U20 pistons which may make 
it a more attractive option to some.......
Read this thread for a detailed discussion:
http://www.gofastnews.com/board/engine-technology/85-rod-ratio-vers-eng-acce
leration.html

Daryl


From: "Tim Waltz" <printner at att.net>

> Another stroker option I've heard of is using the longer (R16) rods, and
> later Nissan (280Z, 300Z?) pistons.
>
> Has anyone ever heard of this, done this, or have any insight on this?
> I've heard it has more torque and lower rod angles.  Sounds like a great
> option, but I need more info.
>
> TIA
>
> Tim
> 67.5 1600 waiting to be stroked
> (that doesn't sound right)
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From steve at olsonarchitect.com  Thu Apr  9 10:03:30 2009
From: steve at olsonarchitect.com (Stephen Wan)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:03:30 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker
References: <c39.503a7b91.370e73da@aol.com><007601c9b898$f7381f80$e5a85e80$@net><818A78036BDD42F8B0B664E6EC063258@Daryl><000e01c9b8d6$b6333090$229991b0$@net>
	<49DD9444.8030006@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <BED38AB274CE426C8E79B1D956100DCA@Stephen>

I think its from the longer distance the piston can travel during the 
combustion phase.
The longer downstroke increases the amount of time that the expanding gas 
has to turn the crank before reaching BDC per combustion cycle.

Steve
70' 1600 that still needs a tranny swap.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
To: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
Cc: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker


>I thought the longer rod also pushed the piston farther "up" the
> cylinder wall, thus compressing the gas MORE... and that's where the
> power gain came from...
>
> Isn't that also the case?
>
> Eddie

From andycost at embarqmail.com  Thu Apr  9 10:57:17 2009
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Embarq Customer)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:57:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker
In-Reply-To: <BED38AB274CE426C8E79B1D956100DCA@Stephen>
Message-ID: <1276873158.947861239296237353.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com>

The only thing that strokes the motor is a crank.  Different rods and pistons might change the angles between the rod and piston but does not change the stroke or displacement.  To change the displacement you have to change the stroke or bore.

Andy



----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Wan" <steve at olsonarchitect.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 11:03:30 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker

I think its from the longer distance the piston can travel during the 
combustion phase.
The longer downstroke increases the amount of time that the expanding gas 
has to turn the crank before reaching BDC per combustion cycle.

Steve
70' 1600 that still needs a tranny swap.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
To: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
Cc: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker


>I thought the longer rod also pushed the piston farther "up" the
> cylinder wall, thus compressing the gas MORE... and that's where the
> power gain came from...
>
> Isn't that also the case?
>
> Eddie
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From joek at camberconstruction.com  Thu Apr  9 12:30:55 2009
From: joek at camberconstruction.com (Joe Kinstle)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:30:55 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker
In-Reply-To: <1276873158.947861239296237353.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com>
References: <BED38AB274CE426C8E79B1D956100DCA@Stephen>
	<1276873158.947861239296237353.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com>
Message-ID: <EB07778179F743C3A3380B00A04F6A52@lapjoek>

Wouldn't a high domed piston create less displacement than a flat top or
dished piston?

Joe Kinstle
'68 2L
BLK SRL
Carpenter, not engineer

-----Original Message-----
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Customer
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 9:57 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker

The only thing that strokes the motor is a crank.  Different rods and
pistons might change the angles between the rod and piston but does not
change the stroke or displacement.  To change the displacement you have to
change the stroke or bore.

Andy



----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Wan" <steve at olsonarchitect.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 11:03:30 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker

I think its from the longer distance the piston can travel during the 
combustion phase.
The longer downstroke increases the amount of time that the expanding gas 
has to turn the crank before reaching BDC per combustion cycle.

Steve
70' 1600 that still needs a tranny swap.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
To: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
Cc: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker


>I thought the longer rod also pushed the piston farther "up" the
> cylinder wall, thus compressing the gas MORE... and that's where the
> power gain came from...
>
> Isn't that also the case?
>
> Eddie
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Thu Apr  9 13:09:03 2009
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:09:03 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker
In-Reply-To: <1276873158.947861239296237353.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com>
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That's correct. A longer stroke not only provides more displacement for the
same bore size, but it also provides more leverage (mechanical advantage)
for the combustion pressure to apply to the crank. It's a longer lever.

A long-stroke/small-bore motor will produce more torque than a
short-stroke/large-bore motor of the same displacement, but the short-stroke
motor will rev higher.

"Back in the day" (read mid 1960's) there was a dragster team called Starkey
& Jent (sp?) who ran a destroked Chevy small-block with a displacement of
233 ci and a GMC supercharger. They turned the thing to 10,000 rpm! At that
time, if you could get 8,000 out of a SBC, you were doing really good.
(Gawd, getting old is positively scary when I can remember things like that
but I can't remember what I had for lunch two days ago!)

And the amount of time the gas has to work on the crank is the same for any
engine at a given rpm. At 6000 revolutions per minute, that's 0.005 seconds
for half a revolution (the power stroke), regardless of bore, stroke or
anything else. Piston speed will be higher because it has to travel farther
during that time.

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
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Customer
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 9:57 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker

The only thing that strokes the motor is a crank.  Different rods and
pistons might change the angles between the rod and piston but does not
change the stroke or displacement.  To change the displacement you have to
change the stroke or bore.

Andy



----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Wan" <steve at olsonarchitect.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 11:03:30 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker

I think its from the longer distance the piston can travel during the 
combustion phase.
The longer downstroke increases the amount of time that the expanding gas 
has to turn the crank before reaching BDC per combustion cycle.

Steve
70' 1600 that still needs a tranny swap.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
To: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
Cc: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker


>I thought the longer rod also pushed the piston farther "up" the
> cylinder wall, thus compressing the gas MORE... and that's where the
> power gain came from...
>
> Isn't that also the case?
>
> Eddie
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Thu Apr  9 13:18:36 2009
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:18:36 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Mech temp sender and guage
Message-ID: <8CB875F1D8F5CAE-1228-F6C@FWM-D30.sysops.aol.com>

Here's a fix for a broken guage or sender i just posted on 311 site:
http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9642&start=0&sid=aa25002af31f8457c8c9f003522ab6ac
It's a bit of a hassle, and kind of ugly, but if you have broken sender you know what can be involved there.
This is a temp fix for now on my car, as any sender is better than no sender in my opinion.

Linda

From turbored at gmail.com  Thu Apr  9 16:50:21 2009
From: turbored at gmail.com (turbored)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:50:21 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed...
In-Reply-To: <8CB87372611D097-E2C-310A@webmail-me15.sysops.aol.com>
References: <49DCD89C.6030104@socal.rr.com><D4A8D4810355491DA1078625E828698E@gaxp1>
	<49DD91B1.9050500@socal.rr.com>
	<8CB87372611D097-E2C-310A@webmail-me15.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4AF9ECFD-6797-4A42-AF7F-BF69790E7086@gmail.com>

Linda,

doesn't the 240z one mess up the splines, because it's close but still  
off a bit?

best,
drew

On Apr 9, 2009, at 7:32 AM, ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote:

> Eddie,
> Are you doing a Grant wheel or Momo? The Momo adapter that will work  
> is for the 240Z #3503. The Roadster #3500 is NLA.
> I have another adapter that didn't work for me but you are welcome  
> to try it.
>
> Linda
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
> To: Gary and Cindy Ault <aultgc at att.net>
> Cc: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:12 pm
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The later and earlier columns use the same spline for the steering  
> wheel. ?
>
> I'm actually told that Nissan used the same spline configuration for  
> ALL
> of their cars for many years...?
> ?
>
> Will let you know what I find out.  :-)?
> ?
>
> Eddie?
> ?
>
> Gary and Cindy Ault wrote:?
>
>> Eddie,?
>
>> ?
>
>> I am not sure abaout the later (collapsible) steering columns, but I
>> don't think adapters for other wheels will fit the early columns.  If
>> there is one, I'd like to know.?
>
>> ?
>
>> Grants used to make an adapter for early roadster. but they no longer
>> have the tooling.?
>
>> ?
>
>> Gary?
>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>?
>
>> To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>?
>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:02 PM?
>
>> Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed...?
>
>> ?
>
>> ?
>
>>> Hi all,?
>
>>> ?
>
>>> I'm going to put an aftermarket steering wheel in my roadster, and
>>> wanted to know if anyone else who has done this knows if other  
>>> Nissan
>>> cars use the same spline configuration on the steering shaft..?
>
>>> ?
>
>>> Anyone??
>
>>> Thanks...?
>
>>> ________________________________________?
>
>>> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html?
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu Apr  9 16:50:57 2009
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:50:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] WANTED: 4-speed release fork
Message-ID: <371054221.3274841239317457720.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Anyone have a spare 4-speed clutch release fork? RL411 owner in Rockland, Maine needs one. 

Thanks. 

Pete 

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Thu Apr  9 17:28:44 2009
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:28:44 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] R16-U20 measurements and comparison
Message-ID: <004601c9b96a$ef705c40$ce5114c0$@net>

Since I have both R16 and U20 parts in my garage right now, I figured this
would be a good opportunity to document things. Eventually I may make a Web
page out of it but for now, here's what I found.

				R16		U20
			   -------    -------
Crank weight        38 lbs     46 lbs
Piston weight      454 g      471 g
Pin weight         125 g      125 g
Pin height         1.61"      1.61"
Rod weight	        792 g      954 g
Rod length         6.010"     5.670"
Crank to deck      8.937"     8.937"
Stroke             2.630"     3.267"

If you look at the following two pictures:
http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/R16_U20_Comparison/R16_U20_Cranks_1.jpg
http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/R16_U20_Comparison/R16_U20_Cranks_2.jpg
You can see why the U20 crank is heavier. Not only is the stroke larger by
about 5/8", but it is fully counterweighted. The R16 crank is not.

Since both engines use the same piston pin diameter (22mm), it is easy to
compare the pistons by putting one pin in both pistons:
http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/R16_U20_Comparison/R16_U20_Pistons_1.jpg
You can see first of all that both pistons have the same pin height. You can
also see that the skirt of the U20 piston has been cut back to clear the
counterweights and to allow for the longer stroke (remember, the piston will
come down farther in the cylinder bore at BDC).

So if the U20 piston is actually shorter in the skirts than the R16 and
doesn't have a dome, how come it's so much heavier?
http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/R16_U20_Comparison/R16_U20_Pistons_inside_2.jp
g
The walls of the U20 piston are twice as thick as the R16 - 0.125" vs
0.0625". And I measured the material thickness of the crown in the center of
the piston at 0.371" for the U20 and 0.295" for the R16.

I used the same "common pin" technique to compare the rods:
http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/R16_U20_Comparison/R16_U20_Rods_piston_pin.jpg
It is clear that the R16 rod is longer. Also, the pin boss is actually
beefier.

So why is the U20 rod heavier than the longer R16 rod? Here's the answer:
http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/R16_U20_Comparison/R16_U20_Rods_crank_journal.
jpg
I pulled the caps off the rods and set them up on a couple of blocks of wood
so that the big ends would be at the same height. This not only shows
clearly how much longer the R16 rod is, but it also shows how much stronger
the U20 rod is. Look at the thickness of the beam and at the extra meat
around the big end. 

It looks from the measurements like the R16 actually has a higher deck
height than the U20:
Deck height = Crank to deck - (Stroke/2 + Rod length + Pin height)
R16 - 0.0020"
U20 - 0.0235"

I don't have any Z pistons around to compare to, but if one of the theories
is to use the R16 rod and a Z piston in a stroker motor, the pin height will
need to be around 1.27".

Gordon Glasgow
Renton, WA
www.gordon-glasgow.org

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Thu Apr  9 17:34:05 2009
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:34:05 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker
In-Reply-To: <EB07778179F743C3A3380B00A04F6A52@lapjoek>
References: <BED38AB274CE426C8E79B1D956100DCA@Stephen>
	<1276873158.947861239296237353.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com>
	<EB07778179F743C3A3380B00A04F6A52@lapjoek>
Message-ID: <004b01c9b96b$ace5cb70$06b16250$@net>

It doesn't change the displacement because the displacement is the swept
volume of the piston, i.e. the space that the piston moves through during
its stroke. That's strictly a function of bore and stroke.

What a domed piston does is extend into the combustion chamber and take up
space above the top of the block. This makes calculating the compression
ratio more complicated for the enthusiast. It's easier for manufacturers to
tweak compression ratio by changing the piston crown than to change the
cylinder head design.

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Kinstle
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 11:31 AM
To: 'Embarq Customer'; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker

Wouldn't a high domed piston create less displacement than a flat top or
dished piston?

Joe Kinstle
'68 2L
BLK SRL
Carpenter, not engineer

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Embarq
Customer
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 9:57 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker

The only thing that strokes the motor is a crank.  Different rods and
pistons might change the angles between the rod and piston but does not
change the stroke or displacement.  To change the displacement you have to
change the stroke or bore.

Andy



----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Wan" <steve at olsonarchitect.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 11:03:30 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker

I think its from the longer distance the piston can travel during the 
combustion phase.
The longer downstroke increases the amount of time that the expanding gas 
has to turn the crank before reaching BDC per combustion cycle.

Steve
70' 1600 that still needs a tranny swap.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
To: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
Cc: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker


>I thought the longer rod also pushed the piston farther "up" the
> cylinder wall, thus compressing the gas MORE... and that's where the
> power gain came from...
>
> Isn't that also the case?
>
> Eddie
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From aultgc at att.net  Thu Apr  9 21:02:16 2009
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:02:16 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker
References: <BED38AB274CE426C8E79B1D956100DCA@Stephen><1276873158.947861239296237353.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com>
	<EB07778179F743C3A3380B00A04F6A52@lapjoek>
Message-ID: <B804B542A8A14D5D963B1A89001E5E88@gaxp1>

Yes, and proportionally higher compression.  May run into valves, also.

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Kinstle" <joek at camberconstruction.com>
To: "'Embarq Customer'" <andycost at embarqmail.com>; 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker


> Wouldn't a high domed piston create less displacement than a flat top or
> dished piston?
>
> Joe Kinstle
> '68 2L
> BLK SRL
> Carpenter, not engineer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Embarq
> Customer
> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 9:57 AM
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker
>
> The only thing that strokes the motor is a crank.  Different rods and
> pistons might change the angles between the rod and piston but does not
> change the stroke or displacement.  To change the displacement you have to
> change the stroke or bore.
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Wan" <steve at olsonarchitect.com>
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 11:03:30 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker
>
> I think its from the longer distance the piston can travel during the
> combustion phase.
> The longer downstroke increases the amount of time that the expanding gas
> has to turn the crank before reaching BDC per combustion cycle.
>
> Steve
> 70' 1600 that still needs a tranny swap.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
> To: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
> Cc: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker
>
>
>>I thought the longer rod also pushed the piston farther "up" the
>> cylinder wall, thus compressing the gas MORE... and that's where the
>> power gain came from...
>>
>> Isn't that also the case?
>>
>> Eddie
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From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Thu Apr  9 21:40:33 2009
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:40:33 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker
References: <c39.503a7b91.370e73da@aol.com>
	<007601c9b898$f7381f80$e5a85e80$@net>
	<818A78036BDD42F8B0B664E6EC063258@Daryl>
	<000e01c9b8d6$b6333090$229991b0$@net> <49DD9444.8030006@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <1827B202BC5A4C958F1BF5CED350A03E@Daryl>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker


>I thought the longer rod also pushed the piston farther "up" the cylinder 
>wall, thus compressing the gas MORE... and that's where the power gain came 
>from...
>
> Isn't that also the case?
>
> Eddie

Actually, No, it only goes down further......  ;-)

By changing the geometry (rod length and piston pin height), the piston can 
stop higher, lower, or at exactly the same height in a stroker motor as a 
stock motor, while overall travelling the extra distance of the stroker 
crank. This can be used to increase/decrease compression ratios and 
squish/quench clearance (distance between top of the piston and the head). I 
would try to bring the piston to block level or slightly higher to maximize 
the squish/quench, as long as it doesn't push the compression ratio too 
high.

Daryl 

From jsk977 at optonline.net  Thu Apr  9 21:48:49 2009
From: jsk977 at optonline.net (Jerry Krakauer)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 23:48:49 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker
References: <BED38AB274CE426C8E79B1D956100DCA@Stephen>
	<1276873158.947861239296237353.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com>
	<EB07778179F743C3A3380B00A04F6A52@lapjoek>
	<B804B542A8A14D5D963B1A89001E5E88@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <98D38EEDED064151B377F8DEAC1D985E@HP1450>

Yup, got to watch the valve clearance. I used R16 pistons in my U20 to raise 
the compression and the dome had to be flycut for valve clearance. This was 
standard BSR practice.


Jerry Krakauer
SRL311 00099

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" <aultgc at att.net>
To: "Joe Kinstle" <joek at camberconstruction.com>; "'Embarq Customer'" 
<andycost at embarqmail.com>; <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker


> Yes, and proportionally higher compression.  May run into valves, also.
>
> Gary

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Thu Apr  9 21:56:11 2009
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:56:11 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 4-2-1 Header
Message-ID: <469031C94A4D4C349E6580A12851D4E5@Daryl>

Posted a picture of my new header for my 1800cc stroker here:
http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2083&start=90

From jeremymayne at msn.com  Fri Apr 10 09:23:54 2009
From: jeremymayne at msn.com (jeremy mayne)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:23:54 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker
In-Reply-To: <22163D8E94FB440D93D2F7051EEB4FD5@Daryl>
References: <c39.503a7b91.370e73da@aol.com>
	<007601c9b898$f7381f80$e5a85e80$@net>
	<818A78036BDD42F8B0B664E6EC063258@Daryl>
	<000e01c9b8d6$b6333090$229991b0$@net> 
	<22163D8E94FB440D93D2F7051EEB4FD5@Daryl>
Message-ID: <COL115-W324FF3546BBD5AD79891B4B7800@phx.gbl>

I also believe the R16 rods are lighter than the U20 (I remember weighing them
when I was building my stroker, but I don't remember the weights).  They have
a more slender beam than the U20s.  This was part of my motivation for
lightening the U20 rods by about 30 grams each.  In an attempt to get a good
CR with the forklift dished pistons, I actually considered using the longer
R16 rods and having the tops of the pistons machined down rather than decking
the block.  It wouldn't work though, because by the time the pistons were
machined enough for clearance, the top ring would have been too close to the
top of the piston.  Maybe it could be done with custom pistons.



Jeremy




> As far as the rods go though I was under the impression that the R16 rod was
> lighter than the U20 rod, and that the shorter piston
> (shorter pin height because of the longer rod) should save a few grams
> also....??? The pistons in this case would be about 8 mm shorter in this
> case for the long rod stroker. I would expect a reduced weight with that
> much difference in pin height.........
>
> Anyone know what these rods weigh?
>
> Daryl
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Fri Apr 10 09:50:08 2009
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:50:08 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker
In-Reply-To: <COL115-W324FF3546BBD5AD79891B4B7800@phx.gbl>
References: <c39.503a7b91.370e73da@aol.com>
	<007601c9b898$f7381f80$e5a85e80$@net> 
	<818A78036BDD42F8B0B664E6EC063258@Daryl> 
	<000e01c9b8d6$b6333090$229991b0$@net> 
	<22163D8E94FB440D93D2F7051EEB4FD5@Daryl>
	<COL115-W324FF3546BBD5AD79891B4B7800@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <001101c9b9f4$07151230$153f3690$@net>

A lot of work has been done in various forms of racing around tighter ring
packs, thinner compression rings, higher positioning of the rings, etc. in
an attempt to create the lightest piston and longest rod possible. I've even
seen pistons where the oil ring overlaps the piston pin opening. But keep in
mind that these are all racing motors that are probably torn down after a
few hundred miles of running. 

 

The extremes of racing can be fascinating but also surprising in their cost.
I remember reading that Top Fuel drag racers throw all their valve springs
away after about 8 passes, and these are titanium springs that cost $10,000
a set! And of course they replace the rod and main bearings after every
pass. I think it was Kenny Bernstein who said in an interview that they read
bearing crush the way most people read spark plugs.

 

Gordon Glasgow 

From: jeremy mayne [mailto:jeremymayne at msn.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:24 AM
To: drlsmith at dccnet.com; gsglasgow at comcast.net; printner at att.net;
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker

 

I also believe the R16 rods are lighter than the U20 (I remember weighing
them when I was building my stroker, but I don't remember the weights).
They have a more slender beam than the U20s.  This was part of my motivation
for lightening the U20 rods by about 30 grams each.  In an attempt to get a
good CR with the forklift dished pistons, I actually considered using the
longer R16 rods and having the tops of the pistons machined down rather than
decking the block.  It wouldn't work though, because by the time the pistons
were machined enough for clearance, the top ring would have been too close
to the top of the piston.  Maybe it could be done with custom pistons.
 
Jeremy
 
 
> As far as the rods go though I was under the impression that the R16 rod
was 
> lighter than the U20 rod, and that the shorter piston
> (shorter pin height because of the longer rod) should save a few grams 
> also....??? The pistons in this case would be about 8 mm shorter in this 
> case for the long rod stroker. I would expect a reduced weight with that 
> much difference in pin height.........
> 
> Anyone know what these rods weigh?
> 
> Daryl 
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From Walter.Peterson at cox.net  Fri Apr 10 09:50:26 2009
From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter Peterson)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:50:26 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Batteries again.  51R & 96 Integra hold down strap.
Message-ID: <000901c9b9f4$11327cd0$33977670$@Peterson@cox.net>

Anyone use a group 51?  Interstate batteries will sell me one of these for
less than the standard group 53K.  The 51 is smaller, weighs less & has
better Cold Cranking Amps.  "R" is reversed posts.

Or asked another way, what's the common battery upgrade for the early 67
chassis?

 

 

Walter Peterson

Goleta Ca, 93117

Street driven race motor

2000 3-Main(R) Solexes,cam etc.

5-Speed & LSD.

From RWM at RWMann.com  Fri Apr 10 10:14:17 2009
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:14:17 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters]  Batteries again.  51R & 96 Integra hold down strap.
In-Reply-To: <000901c9b9f4$11327cd0$33977670$@Peterson@cox.net>
References: <000901c9b9f4$11327cd0$33977670$@Peterson@cox.net>
Message-ID: <49DF7059.20608@RWMann.com>

I use an Optima 51R in my '68 2000 Solex with a Honda CRV hold-down 
strap (we have a 51R Optima in the CRV, too).

I'm very pleased with Optima performance after three years, though I 
know some have reported issues.

- Bob Mann



Walter Peterson wrote:
> Anyone use a group 51?  Interstate batteries will sell me one of these for
> less than the standard group 53K.  The 51 is smaller, weighs less & has
> better Cold Cranking Amps.  "R" is reversed posts.
>
> Or asked another way, what's the common battery upgrade for the early 67
> chassis?

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Fri Apr 10 10:24:06 2009
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:24:06 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker
References: <c39.503a7b91.370e73da@aol.com>
	<007601c9b898$f7381f80$e5a85e80$@net>
	<818A78036BDD42F8B0B664E6EC063258@Daryl>
	<000e01c9b8d6$b6333090$229991b0$@net>
	<22163D8E94FB440D93D2F7051EEB4FD5@Daryl>
	<COL115-W324FF3546BBD5AD79891B4B7800@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <7A79B82460BD44F3AA9744F460995F5A@Daryl>

"Maybe it could be done with custom pistons."
Not only can be done, it has been done. Walter Peterson stated earlier that he has a race prepped 2L stroker with R16 rods and custom pistons.
This question about using the Z piston comes up often, but I don't remember anyone saying they have actually done it. No definitive answer on which piston.

IIRC, from my research, I believe you can go down to about 29 mm (1.15") pin height before the pin will start to intersect with the oil ring.

Daryl



  From: jeremy mayne 


  I also believe the R16 rods are lighter than the U20 (I remember weighing them when I was building my stroker, but I don't remember the weights).  They have a more slender beam than the U20s.  This was part of my motivation for lightening the U20 rods by about 30 grams each.  In an attempt to get a good CR with the forklift dished pistons, I actually considered using the longer R16 rods and having the tops of the pistons machined down rather than decking the block.  It wouldn't work though, because by the time the pistons were machined enough for clearance, the top ring would have been too close to the top of the piston.  Maybe it could be done with custom pistons.
   
  Jeremy
   
   
  > As far as the rods go though I was under the impression that the R16 rod was 
  > lighter than the U20 rod, and that the shorter piston
  > (shorter pin height because of the longer rod) should save a few grams 
  > also....??? The pistons in this case would be about 8 mm shorter in this 
  > case for the long rod stroker. I would expect a reduced weight with that 
  > much difference in pin height.........
  > 
  > Anyone know what these rods weigh?
  > 
  > Daryl 
  > ________________________________________

From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Fri Apr 10 10:28:29 2009
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:28:29 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Batteries again. 51R & 96 Integra hold down strap.
References: <000901c9b9f4$11327cd0$33977670$@Peterson@cox.net>
Message-ID: <00a801c9b9f9$62726830$6400a8c0@LAP120>

I use a Group 51R. Positive post is nearest and to the rear of the engine .
I think it's a good size for it's capacity. I also use a GM 63 amp
"one-wire" alternator. On a related issue. I just installed one of those
"quick-disconnectors",  the one with the green knob you often see in pics
from the Roadster shows. Any issues about them vibrating loose while
driving, etc., etc. They don't use a lock washer under the knob. Just
wondering.
Mike Hudson  -  '67 Stroker / 5-Speed


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Walter Peterson" <Walter.Peterson at cox.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:50 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Batteries again. 51R & 96 Integra hold down strap.


> Anyone use a group 51?  Interstate batteries will sell me one of these for
> less than the standard group 53K.  The 51 is smaller, weighs less & has
> better Cold Cranking Amps.  "R" is reversed posts.
>
> Or asked another way, what's the common battery upgrade for the early 67
> chassis?
>
>
>
>
>
> Walter Peterson
>
> Goleta Ca, 93117
>
> Street driven race motor
>
> 2000 3-Main(R) Solexes,cam etc.
>
> 5-Speed & LSD.
> ________________________________________

From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Fri Apr 10 10:32:10 2009
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:32:10 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Batteries again. 51R & 96 Integra hold down strap.
References: <000901c9b9f4$11327cd0$33977670$@Peterson@cox.net>
	<00a801c9b9f9$62726830$6400a8c0@LAP120>
Message-ID: <00c001c9b9f9$e5ffc670$6400a8c0@LAP120>

Update to my previous reply: Since it's relevant, I also use a gear
reduction starter, and electric fan. No tunes.........yet.
Mike Hudson  -  '67 Stroker / 5-Speed



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MH" <twobeaners at earthlink.net>
To: "Walter Peterson" <Walter.Peterson at cox.net>;
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Batteries again. 51R & 96 Integra hold down strap.


> I use a Group 51R. Positive post is nearest and to the rear of the engine
.
> I think it's a good size for it's capacity. I also use a GM 63 amp
> "one-wire" alternator. On a related issue. I just installed one of those
> "quick-disconnectors",  the one with the green knob you often see in pics
> from the Roadster shows. Any issues about them vibrating loose while
> driving, etc., etc. They don't use a lock washer under the knob. Just
> wondering.
> Mike Hudson  -  '67 Stroker / 5-Speed
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Walter Peterson" <Walter.Peterson at cox.net>
> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:50 AM
> Subject: [Roadsters] Batteries again. 51R & 96 Integra hold down strap.
>
>
> > Anyone use a group 51?  Interstate batteries will sell me one of these
for
> > less than the standard group 53K.  The 51 is smaller, weighs less & has
> > better Cold Cranking Amps.  "R" is reversed posts.
> >
> > Or asked another way, what's the common battery upgrade for the early 67
> > chassis?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Walter Peterson
> >
> > Goleta Ca, 93117
> >
> > Street driven race motor
> >
> > 2000 3-Main(R) Solexes,cam etc.
> >
> > 5-Speed & LSD.
> > ________________________________________



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From RWM at RWMann.com  Fri Apr 10 11:08:56 2009
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM (Out of the Office))
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:08:56 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Batteries again. 51R & 96 Integra hold down strap.
In-Reply-To: <00c001c9b9f9$e5ffc670$6400a8c0@LAP120>
References: <000901c9b9f4$11327cd0$33977670$@Peterson@cox.net>
	<00a801c9b9f9$62726830$6400a8c0@LAP120>
	<00c001c9b9f9$e5ffc670$6400a8c0@LAP120>
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From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Fri Apr 10 11:51:25 2009
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:51:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Batteries again. 51R & 96 Integra hold down strap.
In-Reply-To: <00a801c9b9f9$62726830$6400a8c0@LAP120>
Message-ID: <335075.44782.qm@web82807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

i've used those on several cars for several years with no issues.  i might add
on a car with a very tight suspension.

--- On Fri, 4/10/09, MH <twobeaners at earthlink.net> wrote:

From: MH <twobeaners at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Batteries again. 51R & 96 Integra hold down strap.
To: "Walter Peterson" <Walter.Peterson at cox.net>,
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Date: Friday, April 10, 2009, 11:28 AM

I use a Group 51R. Positive post is nearest and to the rear of the engine .
I think it's a good size for it's capacity. I also use a GM 63 amp
"one-wire" alternator. On a related issue. I just installed one of
those
"quick-disconnectors",  the one with the green knob you often see in
pics
from the Roadster shows. Any issues about them vibrating loose while
driving, etc., etc. They don't use a lock washer under the knob. Just
wondering.
Mike Hudson  -  '67 Stroker / 5-Speed

From RWM at RWMann.com  Fri Apr 10 12:11:45 2009
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:11:45 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Batteries again. 51R & 96 Integra hold down strap.
In-Reply-To: <00c001c9b9f9$e5ffc670$6400a8c0@LAP120>
References: <000901c9b9f4$11327cd0$33977670$@Peterson@cox.net>
	<00a801c9b9f9$62726830$6400a8c0@LAP120>
	<00c001c9b9f9$e5ffc670$6400a8c0@LAP120>
Message-ID: <49DF8BE1.7050102@RWMann.com>


From RWM at RWMann.com  Fri Apr 10 13:24:33 2009
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:24:33 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Batteries again. 51R & 96 Integra hold down strap.
In-Reply-To: <00c001c9b9f9$e5ffc670$6400a8c0@LAP120>
References: <000901c9b9f4$11327cd0$33977670$@Peterson@cox.net>
	<00a801c9b9f9$62726830$6400a8c0@LAP120>
	<00c001c9b9f9$e5ffc670$6400a8c0@LAP120>
Message-ID: <49DF9CF1.3080205@RWMann.com>

Same here on the '68 2000 Solex:

Optima 51R AGM battery, TSI gear reduction starter, 14" Spal fan, Boone 
EI/distributor, MSD coil, no tunes (too loud!)



MH wrote:
> Update to my previous reply: Since it's relevant, I also use a gear
> reduction starter, and electric fan. No tunes.........yet.
> Mike Hudson  -  '67 Stroker / 5-Speed
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "MH" <twobeaners at earthlink.net>
> To: "Walter Peterson" <Walter.Peterson at cox.net>;
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 11:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Batteries again. 51R & 96 Integra hold down strap.
>
>
>   
>> I use a Group 51R. Positive post is nearest and to the rear of the engine
>>     
> .
>   
>> I think it's a good size for it's capacity. I also use a GM 63 amp
>> "one-wire" alternator. On a related issue. I just installed one of those
>> "quick-disconnectors",  the one with the green knob you often see in pics
>> from the Roadster shows. Any issues about them vibrating loose while
>> driving, etc., etc. They don't use a lock washer under the knob. Just
>> wondering.
>> Mike Hudson  -  '67 Stroker / 5-Speed
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Walter Peterson" <Walter.Peterson at cox.net>
>> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:50 AM
>> Subject: [Roadsters] Batteries again. 51R & 96 Integra hold down strap.
>>
>>
>>     
>>> Anyone use a group 51?  Interstate batteries will sell me one of these
>>>       
> for
>   
>>> less than the standard group 53K.  The 51 is smaller, weighs less & has
>>> better Cold Cranking Amps.  "R" is reversed posts.
>>>
>>> Or asked another way, what's the common battery upgrade for the early 67
>>> chassis?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Walter Peterson
>>>
>>> Goleta Ca, 93117
>>>
>>> Street driven race motor
>>>
>>> 2000 3-Main(R) Solexes,cam etc.
>>>
>>> 5-Speed & LSD.

From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Fri Apr 10 15:28:56 2009
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (nmleeds at mindspring.com)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:28:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] 6700 RPM's 5th Gear and ooh noo
Message-ID: <6677122.1239398936779.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I probably won't have happened on my morning commute if it weren't for the 260Z.  I know that's no excuse.  But I've seen him before, weaving through the heavy traffic and then taking a death (and speeding ticket) defying leap for it when traffic gets light after the airport turnoff.  And my wife took her car to work today, so I was in the Datsun and . . . 

listmates, you'll be happy to hear that by b-cam SU '69 2000 blew his socks off until, at 6700 RPM's the oil (20-50W) pressure got to be too much and I blew a great big oil leak (I haven't cleaned up the mess so I can't report what blew) although there is no signs of any internal engine problems.

There are two possible lessons take away from this: 1) I should learn to drive more cautiously 2) I should put something on the engine to blead off extra oil pressure.

Since lesson 1 is a new trick this old (actually mid-30's) dog isn't likely to learn, I thought I'd ask if anyone had any suggestions for what to do control oil pressure under heavy load.

From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com  Fri Apr 10 15:46:02 2009
From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:46:02 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Batteries again. Quick Disconnect
In-Reply-To: <00a801c9b9f9$62726830$6400a8c0@LAP120>
Message-ID: <002d01c9ba25$be8ba970$0402a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>

I have run the quick disconnect knob type for many years on different sports
cars. Triumphs and Datsuns. I have on my roadster for years.  It works great
for me - never a problem while driving.

It makes it easy to disconnect battery while she's waiting for another ride.
Also a little bit of a theft deterrent - until they get the hood open...


Joe


I just installed one of those
"quick-disconnectors",  the one with the green knob you often see in pics
from the Roadster shows. Any issues about them vibrating loose while
driving, etc., etc. They don't use a lock washer under the knob. Just
wondering.
Mike Hudson  -  '67 Stroker / 5-Speed

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Fri Apr 10 16:00:48 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:00:48 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 6700 RPM's 5th Gear and ooh noo
In-Reply-To: <6677122.1239398936779.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <6677122.1239398936779.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <49DFC190.2010203@socal.rr.com>

Sounds like one of the three might have been a factor:

Too much oil in the engine.
Oil was too thick in the engine
RPM's were just too high.

My guess?  #2. 

nmleeds at mindspring.com wrote:
> I probably won't have happened on my morning commute if it weren't for the 260Z.  I know that's no excuse.  But I've seen him before, weaving through the heavy traffic and then taking a death (and speeding ticket) defying leap for it when traffic gets light after the airport turnoff.  And my wife took her car to work today, so I was in the Datsun and . . . 
>
> listmates, you'll be happy to hear that by b-cam SU '69 2000 blew his socks off until, at 6700 RPM's the oil (20-50W) pressure got to be too much and I blew a great big oil leak (I haven't cleaned up the mess so I can't report what blew) although there is no signs of any internal engine problems.
>
> There are two possible lessons take away from this: 1) I should learn to drive more cautiously 2) I should put something on the engine to blead off extra oil pressure.
>
> Since lesson 1 is a new trick this old (actually mid-30's) dog isn't likely to learn, I thought I'd ask if anyone had any suggestions for what to do control oil pressure under heavy load.
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From sandhoff at csus.edu  Fri Apr 10 16:40:16 2009
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:40:16 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 6700 RPM's 5th Gear and ooh noo
In-Reply-To: <6677122.1239398936779.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <49DF6860.11112.EFED53@localhost>

> ...I thought I'd ask if anyone had any suggestions for what to do
> control oil pressure under heavy load.

Please don't take this wrong, but you're not looking at the problem
from the right angle. Nissan didn't build an engine that couldn't
redline if everything was in good order.

This is no "over-pressure" problem. Rather, there's a "these parts are
too worn" problem. Something blew not because pressure was too
high but because something was too worn. And I suspect your rubber
oil pressure gauge hose is what let go. That, or the oil filter :-)
Rule of thumb for expected pressure: 10 PSI per 1000 RPM.

CAVEAT: The oil pump has an internal pressure regulator that MAY
have stuck. I really doubt it, but it's a possibility. BTW, that's the
answer to your initial question (how to control pressure): there's
already a pressure regulator in there.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com  Fri Apr 10 16:19:54 2009
From: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com (Brian Hollands)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:19:54 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 6700 RPM's 5th Gear and ooh noo
In-Reply-To: <49DFC190.2010203@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20090410221955.ICXO24447.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B>

Or a Fram Oil Filter...

________________________________
Brian Hollands
'69 2000 
Tampa, FL

-----Original Message-----

Sounds like one of the three might have been a factor:

Too much oil in the engine.
Oil was too thick in the engine
RPM's were just too high.

My guess?  #2. 

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Fri Apr 10 17:00:33 2009
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:00:33 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 6700 RPM's 5th Gear and ooh noo
In-Reply-To: <6677122.1239398936779.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <6677122.1239398936779.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <002a01c9ba30$278da2c0$76a8e840$@net>

The key question is, where was the leak?

Gordon Glasgow
-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
nmleeds at mindspring.com
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 2:29 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] 6700 RPM's 5th Gear and ooh noo

I probably won't have happened on my morning commute if it weren't for the
260Z.  I know that's no excuse.  But I've seen him before, weaving through
the heavy traffic and then taking a death (and speeding ticket) defying leap
for it when traffic gets light after the airport turnoff.  And my wife took
her car to work today, so I was in the Datsun and . . . 

listmates, you'll be happy to hear that by b-cam SU '69 2000 blew his socks
off until, at 6700 RPM's the oil (20-50W) pressure got to be too much and I
blew a great big oil leak (I haven't cleaned up the mess so I can't report
what blew) although there is no signs of any internal engine problems.

There are two possible lessons take away from this: 1) I should learn to
drive more cautiously 2) I should put something on the engine to blead off
extra oil pressure.

Since lesson 1 is a new trick this old (actually mid-30's) dog isn't likely
to learn, I thought I'd ask if anyone had any suggestions for what to do
control oil pressure under heavy load.
Datsun-roadsters mailing list

http://www.team.net/archive

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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Fri Apr 10 17:32:52 2009
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:32:52 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 6700 RPM's 5th Gear and ooh noo
In-Reply-To: <20090410221955.ICXO24447.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B>
Message-ID: <8CB884BCD9226BB-258-5C5@WEBMAIL-MY39.sysops.aol.com>

 The other day when I was in? Autozone auto parts store getting a radiator hose , a guy came in, all greasy, holding a orange Fram filter that was accordioned and gashed with the resulting leakage. I think he was looking for his money back. What an advertisement for what NOT to buy.

Linda


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Hollands <bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 3:19 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 6700 RPM's 5th Gear and ooh noo










Or a Fram Oil Filter...

________________________________
Brian Hollands
'69 2000 
Tampa, FL

-

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Fri Apr 10 19:47:51 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:47:51 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed...
In-Reply-To: <4AF9ECFD-6797-4A42-AF7F-BF69790E7086@gmail.com>
References: <49DCD89C.6030104@socal.rr.com><D4A8D4810355491DA1078625E828698E@gaxp1>
	<49DD91B1.9050500@socal.rr.com>
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	<4AF9ECFD-6797-4A42-AF7F-BF69790E7086@gmail.com>
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Hey all,

Does anyone know if this is the case? 

Would like to know before I order an adapter...

Does the 240Z adapter fit properly? 

Thanks.

Eddie

turbored wrote:
> Linda,
>
> doesn't the 240z one mess up the splines, because it's close but still 
> off a bit?
>
> best,
> drew
>
> On Apr 9, 2009, at 7:32 AM, ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote:
>
>> Eddie,
>> Are you doing a Grant wheel or Momo? The Momo adapter that will work 
>> is for the 240Z #3503. The Roadster #3500 is NLA.
>> I have another adapter that didn't work for me but you are welcome to 
>> try it.
>>
>> Linda
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
>> To: Gary and Cindy Ault <aultgc at att.net>
>> Cc: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:12 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The later and earlier columns use the same spline for the steering 
>> wheel. ?
>>
>> I'm actually told that Nissan used the same spline configuration for ALL
>> of their cars for many years...?
>> ?
>>
>> Will let you know what I find out.  :-)?
>> ?
>>
>> Eddie?
>> ?
>>
>> Gary and Cindy Ault wrote:?
>>
>>> Eddie,?
>>
>>> ?
>>
>>> I am not sure abaout the later (collapsible) steering columns, but I
>>> don't think adapters for other wheels will fit the early columns.  If
>>> there is one, I'd like to know.?
>>
>>> ?
>>
>>> Grants used to make an adapter for early roadster. but they no longer
>>> have the tooling.?
>>
>>> ?
>>
>>> Gary?
>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>?
>>
>>> To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>?
>>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:02 PM?
>>
>>> Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed...?
>>
>>> ?
>>
>>> ?
>>
>>>> Hi all,?
>>
>>>> ?
>>
>>>> I'm going to put an aftermarket steering wheel in my roadster, and
>>>> wanted to know if anyone else who has done this knows if other Nissan
>>>> cars use the same spline configuration on the steering shaft..?
>>
>>>> ?
>>
>>>> Anyone??
>>
>>>> Thanks...?
>>
>>>> ________________________________________?
>>
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From roadster2 at schroeder-family.us  Sat Apr 11 00:17:09 2009
From: roadster2 at schroeder-family.us (Fred Schroeder)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:17:09 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 6700 RPM's 5th Gear and ooh noo
References: <6677122.1239398936779.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <003201c9ba6d$25c0e550$6400a8c0@efs8c31bf7afa0>

Another possibility is the hose going to the distributor.

Best regards,

Fred Schroeder
roadster2 at schroeder-family.us
Home page: http://schroeder-family.us
NRA Life Member

Behold the superfluous. They are always sick. They
vomit their gall and call it a newspaper.
Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche   1844-1900
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: nmleeds at mindspring.com
  To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
  Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 4:28 PM
  Subject: [Roadsters] 6700 RPM's 5th Gear and ooh noo


  I probably won't have happened on my morning commute if it weren't for the
260Z.  I know that's no excuse.  But I've seen him before, weaving through the
heavy traffic and then taking a death (and speeding ticket) defying leap for
it when traffic gets light after the airport turnoff.  And my wife took her
car to work today, so I was in the Datsun and . . .

  listmates, you'll be happy to hear that by b-cam SU '69 2000 blew his socks
off until, at 6700 RPM's the oil (20-50W) pressure got to be too much and I
blew a great big oil leak (I haven't cleaned up the mess so I can't report
what blew) although there is no signs of any internal engine problems.

  There are two possible lessons take away from this: 1) I should learn to
drive more cautiously 2) I should put something on the engine to blead off
extra oil pressure.

  Since lesson 1 is a new trick this old (actually mid-30's) dog isn't likely
to learn, I thought I'd ask if anyone had any suggestions for what to do
control oil pressure under heavy load.
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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Sat Apr 11 06:31:28 2009
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:31:28 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] 6700 RPM's 5th Gear and ooh noo
Message-ID: <cbf.392ea66a.3711e7a0@aol.com>

The only way to build enough oil pressure to damage something is for the  
oil pressure regulator built into the oil pump to fail. Normally this is a  
problem when the engine is first started. Does your gauge read unusually high 
at  high engine speed? 
 
The most likely failure is the oil line going to the distributor. My second 
 choice would be the gauge line or sender (I don't remember what it has for 
 sure). The third would be the oil filter being loose or over tightened. 
 
Please let us know what you find.
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 4/10/2009 11:18:13 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
roadster2 at schroeder-family.us writes:

Another  possibility is the hose going to the distributor.

Best  regards,

Fred Schroeder
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----- Original Message -----
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009  4:28 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] 6700 RPM's 5th Gear and ooh  noo


I probably won't have happened on my morning commute if  it weren't for the
260Z.  I know that's no excuse.  But I've seen  him before, weaving through 
the
heavy traffic and then taking a death (and  speeding ticket) defying leap 
for
it when traffic gets light after the  airport turnoff.  And my wife took her
car to work today, so I was in  the Datsun and . . .

listmates, you'll be happy to hear that by  b-cam SU '69 2000 blew his socks
off until, at 6700 RPM's the oil (20-50W)  pressure got to be too much and I
blew a great big oil leak (I haven't  cleaned up the mess so I can't report
what blew) although there is no signs  of any internal engine problems.

There are two possible lessons  take away from this: 1) I should learn to
drive more cautiously 2) I should  put something on the engine to blead off
extra oil pressure.

Since lesson 1 is a new trick this old (actually mid-30's) dog isn't  likely
to learn, I thought I'd ask if anyone had any suggestions for what  to do
control oil pressure under heavy load.
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sat Apr 11 12:58:23 2009
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:58:23 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 6700 RPM's 5th Gear and ooh noo
In-Reply-To: <8CB884BCD9226BB-258-5C5@WEBMAIL-MY39.sysops.aol.com>
References: <20090410221955.ICXO24447.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B>
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Too bad you didn't have a camera!

Pete 

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From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
ljordan704 at netscape.net
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 4:33 PM
To: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 6700 RPM's 5th Gear and ooh noo

 The other day when I was in? Autozone auto parts store getting a radiator
hose , a guy came in, all greasy, holding a orange Fram filter that was
accordioned and gashed with the resulting leakage. I think he was looking
for his money back. What an advertisement for what NOT to buy.

Linda
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Hollands <bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 3:19 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 6700 RPM's 5th Gear and ooh noo



Or a Fram Oil Filter...

From fergus06 at socal.rr.com  Sat Apr 11 18:51:18 2009
From: fergus06 at socal.rr.com (Fergus OFarrell)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:51:18 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] RE; adaptors: Grant or Mome: steering wheels
Message-ID: <003b01c9bb08$caf0f010$3a6d3143@fergus031a2176>

Eddie,
sorry, I get the digest version, so I am a little behind.  You never answered
the Grant vs Momo question.

If you are NOT going Momo, the Grant 4581 is the adaptor,  Has a 2.5-3" deep
adaptor, so no dish in the wheel is best. Horn button can be made to work
fine, with a little bit of bending / tweaking of the brass followers for the
horn grounding.  The canceling turn signal feature works fine.

Now, that being said, 13" makes steering at low speeds a bit tougher, depends
on your driving.  better knee room than 14". When I went to similar size
tires, but different brand, 185/65's now, used to be 185/75's, I found
steering 50% easier, at least at freeway / normal driving speeds, twisties are
a bit of a workout.  (but, I found at speeds, 185s PLOW, so I am going to go
to 195s whenever I get the chance..)

Best fit for your needs?  I'd say come to Solvang, sit in cars, if not able to
come, then get a 13" to clear the knees.   Worst off, you straighten up the
seat and drive more with your shoulders  (which is best off for the twisties
anyway)

Fergus O
69 2000

From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Sat Apr 11 18:56:45 2009
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (Nathaniel Leeds)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:56:45 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] High RPMs -- How do I get them?
Message-ID: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOGEAGOEAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>

Now that my little 6700 rpm, 240Z, high speed oil slick adventure is behind
me (it was the oil pan deciding that it was a good time to teach me to use
loc-tight when putting on an oil pan) I have been thinking about getting
back into the high RPMs again.

Not knowing much, I did a web search, and noticed that a lot of race cars do
things to their lubrication systems and that also a lot or race cars have
really high red-lines.  Are the two connected?  And, more importantly, what
can I do with my stock engine to push the redline higher?

Has anyone had any experience with accumulators and fancy lubrication
systems that they would like to share.

From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Sat Apr 11 19:25:19 2009
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:25:19 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] High RPMs -- How do I get them?
In-Reply-To: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOGEAGOEAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
References: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOGEAGOEAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <2faaebf80904111825g22627324mb785a89fb05f03ff@mail.gmail.com>

> Nathaniel Leeds

> Now that my little 6700 rpm, 240Z, high speed oil slick adventure is behind
> me (it was the oil pan deciding that it was a good time to teach me to use
> loc-tight when putting on an oil pan) I have been thinking about getting
> back into the high RPMs again.
>
> Not knowing much, I did a web search, and noticed that a lot of race cars
do
> things to their lubrication systems and that also a lot or race cars have
> really high red-lines. B Are the two connected? B And, more importantly,
what
> can I do with my stock engine to push the redline higher?
>
> Has anyone had any experience with accumulators and fancy lubrication
> systems that they would like to share.

The race cars you're reading about have high redlines because the
engines are built and set up for max power, which in small
displacement engines comes at the expense of low and mid range power
and torque. You really don't need or want to do this on a street
oriented engine. On a street or even a street/track car you want a
strong low end because that's where the engines going to operate most
of the time. After the initial bloom has worn off the newness of a
high revver (usually about 30 minutes!) you'll hate it. The car will
be hard to get moving and will be gutless. Trust me, BTDT.

As far as the oil systems are concerned, in a car that experience high
G loads you need to do everything you can to keep the oil pickup
submerged in oil so you don't loose oil pressure and/or run the
bearings dry. All sorts of bad things occur when that happen, all of
them expensive. That's one of the primary reason for the accumulators.
They maintain oil pressure for a short period of time if the oil pump
can't.

Bottom line, on a primarily street driven car you want low and mid
range torque, not high RPM horsepower, and if you have a properly
working stock oil pump, your pan is in good shape and the oil level is
where it should be you don't need to worry about an accumulator.

HTH,
Ron

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Sat Apr 11 19:31:04 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:31:04 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] RE; adaptors: Grant or Mome: steering wheels
In-Reply-To: <003b01c9bb08$caf0f010$3a6d3143@fergus031a2176>
References: <003b01c9bb08$caf0f010$3a6d3143@fergus031a2176>
Message-ID: <49E14458.7020105@socal.rr.com>

Fergus,

The Grant adapter looks like it only works with Grant wheels. 

The Momo adapter has the standard 6 screw setup most aftermarket wheels 
come with.  (Grant looks like it uses 5 screws)

If I get my car together and finished by Solvang, I'll try to make it.  
Not sure if that's going to happen.  There's still a small list of stuff 
to do, but the car is 95% done.  It's all the little jinky stuff that's 
left that takes time...

Eddie






Fergus OFarrell wrote:
> Eddie,
> sorry, I get the digest version, so I am a little behind.  You never answered
> the Grant vs Momo question.
>
> If you are NOT going Momo, the Grant 4581 is the adaptor,  Has a 2.5-3" deep
> adaptor, so no dish in the wheel is best. Horn button can be made to work
> fine, with a little bit of bending / tweaking of the brass followers for the
> horn grounding.  The canceling turn signal feature works fine.
>
> Now, that being said, 13" makes steering at low speeds a bit tougher, depends
> on your driving.  better knee room than 14". When I went to similar size
> tires, but different brand, 185/65's now, used to be 185/75's, I found
> steering 50% easier, at least at freeway / normal driving speeds, twisties are
> a bit of a workout.  (but, I found at speeds, 185s PLOW, so I am going to go
> to 195s whenever I get the chance..)
>
> Best fit for your needs?  I'd say come to Solvang, sit in cars, if not able to
> come, then get a 13" to clear the knees.   Worst off, you straighten up the
> seat and drive more with your shoulders  (which is best off for the twisties
> anyway)
>
> Fergus O
> 69 2000
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From fj201 at cox.net  Sat Apr 11 20:21:12 2009
From: fj201 at cox.net (Ron Hamilton)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:21:12 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] RE; adaptors: Grant or Mome: steering wheels
In-Reply-To: <49E14458.7020105@socal.rr.com>
References: <003b01c9bb08$caf0f010$3a6d3143@fergus031a2176>
	<49E14458.7020105@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <49E15018.8060401@cox.net>

Momo wheel 6 hole pattern is NOT universal. Each wheel supplier has 
their own size so you will buy the adapter. Grant also made some 6 hole 
patterns but they don't come close to momo if memory serves me.

Ron

Eddie wrote:
> Fergus,
>
> The Grant adapter looks like it only works with Grant wheels.
> The Momo adapter has the standard 6 screw setup most aftermarket 
> wheels come with.  (Grant looks like it uses 5 screws)
>
> If I get my car together and finished by Solvang, I'll try to make 
> it.  Not sure if that's going to happen.  There's still a small list 
> of stuff to do, but the car is 95% done.  It's all the little jinky 
> stuff that's left that takes time...
>
> Eddie

From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 12 13:32:26 2009
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 12:32:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] weighing my car
Message-ID: <298426.11467.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

hi everyone
i need to know the weight of my car (not of roadsters in general).  i live in northeast los angeles, and can drive it pretty much anywhere in the greater LA basin.  anyone know where i could take it to weigh it?  anyone have scales they wouldn't mind my car on for a few seconds?
thanks in advance
steve
675MIZU

From Walter.Peterson at cox.net  Sun Apr 12 14:37:01 2009
From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter Peterson)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 13:37:01 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] weighing my car
In-Reply-To: <298426.11467.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <298426.11467.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000001c9bbae$6f2aa860$4d7ff920$@Peterson@cox.net>

Check here: http://dmvscales.com/  Enter your Zip code and it will find a
place for you.
Also I Googled Car Scales Los Angeles, and found tons.  I've used CAT
(Truckers) Scales.


Walter Peterson
Goleta Ca, 93117
Street driven race motor
2000 3-Main(R) Solexes,cam etc.
5-Speed & LSD.



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[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of steven boortz
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 12:32 PM
To: roadsters
Subject: [Roadsters] weighing my car

hi everyone
i need to know the weight of my car (not of roadsters in general).  i live
in northeast los angeles, and can drive it pretty much anywhere in the
greater LA basin.  anyone know where i could take it to weigh it?  anyone
have scales they wouldn't mind my car on for a few seconds?
thanks in advance
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From alvingogi at hotmail.com  Sun Apr 12 14:47:26 2009
From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:47:26 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] weighing my car
In-Reply-To: <000001c9bbae$6f2aa860$4d7ff920$@Peterson@cox.net>
References: <298426.11467.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<000001c9bbae$6f2aa860$4d7ff920$@Peterson@cox.net>
Message-ID: <SNT104-W31331371BB66D01F53A9BEB57E0@phx.gbl>

I agree,

just drive onto any trucker scale:



http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1194079944058696712FCAeoB



http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2817298010058696712gOoxpf

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> From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net
> To: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 13:37:01 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] weighing my car
>
> Check here: http://dmvscales.com/ Enter your Zip code and it will find a
> place for you.
> Also I Googled Car Scales Los Angeles, and found tons. I've used CAT
> (Truckers) Scales.
>
>
> Walter Peterson
> Goleta Ca, 93117
> Street driven race motor
> 2000 3-Main(R) Solexes,cam etc.
> 5-Speed & LSD.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of steven boortz
> Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 12:32 PM
> To: roadsters
> Subject: [Roadsters] weighing my car
>
> hi everyone
> i need to know the weight of my car (not of roadsters in general). i live
> in northeast los angeles, and can drive it pretty much anywhere in the
> greater LA basin. anyone know where i could take it to weigh it? anyone
> have scales they wouldn't mind my car on for a few seconds?
> thanks in advance
> steve
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From alvingogi at hotmail.com  Sun Apr 12 14:54:10 2009
From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:54:10 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Sighting-San Jose, Ca
Message-ID: <SNT104-W8BA17B9226DF14CB995EDB57E0@phx.gbl>

I remember seeing this roadster while out for a walk in the neighborhood ~last
year. We took the roadster out today and I tried driving in the same area and
the same roadster was out in the driveway! It's a '69 SRl with a hardtop,
anyone on here?

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2959965750103926530fSVbGD



Requisite pretty weather photo, it was a nice day!

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2218975840103926530zGZurC



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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sun Apr 12 15:50:57 2009
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 14:50:57 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Sighting-San Jose, Ca
In-Reply-To: <SNT104-W8BA17B9226DF14CB995EDB57E0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT104-W8BA17B9226DF14CB995EDB57E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C028B3AE3B6348DBA8E8BBC6546C5980@xp>

Ya shoulda knocked on the door, or at least left a card.

Very nice pic -- raining here. Of course, in a few months those hills will
be brown and then we'll have the sun and greenery. <g>

Pete 

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of alvin gogineni
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 1:54 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Sighting-San Jose, Ca

I remember seeing this roadster while out for a walk in the neighborhood
~last year. We took the roadster out today and I tried driving in the same
area and the same roadster was out in the driveway! It's a '69 SRl with a
hardtop, anyone on here?

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2959965750103926530fSVbGD


Requisite pretty weather photo, it was a nice day!

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2218975840103926530zGZurC



Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20

From mikefaggart at gmail.com  Sun Apr 12 19:29:13 2009
From: mikefaggart at gmail.com (Mike Faggart)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:29:13 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] weighing my car
In-Reply-To: <298426.11467.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <298426.11467.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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You can always take it to a moving company, they have scales that weigh
trucks.  Also, any truck stop with a scale, should cost you around $7-10.

mike faggart
seroc
68 2L

On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 3:32 PM, steven boortz <
vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com> wrote:

> hi everyone
> i need to know the weight of my car (not of roadsters in general).  i live
> in northeast los angeles, and can drive it pretty much anywhere in the
> greater LA basin.  anyone know where i could take it to weigh it?  anyone
> have scales they wouldn't mind my car on for a few seconds?
> thanks in advance
> steve
> 675MIZU
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From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Sun Apr 12 20:55:59 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 19:55:59 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Electrical Issues
Message-ID: <49E2A9BF.2040505@socal.rr.com>

Hey all,

Ok, so here's my latest dilemma....

Car is 95% done, so much that I COULD make it to Solvang, but not sure 
if I will.

I'm dealing with the electrical stuff.  Brand new Kwik Wire system. 

I've got the old wire harness, and the electrical schematics.. and 
NOTHING matches.. lol

The schematic shows 6 wires coming from the alternator, including the 
ground.

My alternator only had 4 wires... can't tell if one is a ground.

The schematic for the voltage reg shows 5 wires.

My aftermarket volt reg has 5 wires... plus, since I pulled the entire 
wiring harness from the car as a unit, I can easily re-wire the alt to 
the volt reg as it was before.

Problem is, where to put the "kwik wires" into the system.

If there is anyone knowledgeable about the wiring systems for these 
cars, please email off list..

Thanks.

Eddie

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Sun Apr 12 20:57:09 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 19:57:09 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Ignition coil
Message-ID: <49E2AA05.3090701@socal.rr.com>

Hi folks,

Ok, anyone recommend a good Ignition Coil for thse vehicles?

I've got points in it now, but MAY convert to HEI.  Can I use the same 
coil?  What's the best way to do this?

Thanks.

Eddie

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Sun Apr 12 22:09:34 2009
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 23:09:34 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67
References: <562773.63164.qm@web32008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001701c9bbed$aa4b13a0$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local>

what's involved in switching out the existing speedo and tach to an 
aftermarket replacement unit?

the new ones are all electric, right?  so there has to be some kind of 
converter?

thanks!

btw i am already in the process of installing aftermarket gages for 
everything else.  i had thought i would retain the speedo and tach but now 
i'm exploring the possibility of replacing those too. 

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sun Apr 12 22:22:30 2009
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:22:30 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Ignition coil
In-Reply-To: <49E2AA05.3090701@socal.rr.com>
References: <49E2AA05.3090701@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <4EBE74F294E54D01A1DA80CD384CA818@xp>

I remember this being discussed many times. IIRC, the short answer is no.
Different coils for points and HEI.

Pete

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Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 7:57 PM
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: [Roadsters] Ignition coil

Hi folks,

Ok, anyone recommend a good Ignition Coil for thse vehicles?

I've got points in it now, but MAY convert to HEI.  Can I use the same coil?
What's the best way to do this?

Thanks.

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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sun Apr 12 22:23:41 2009
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:23:41 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67
In-Reply-To: <001701c9bbed$aa4b13a0$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local>
References: <562773.63164.qm@web32008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<001701c9bbed$aa4b13a0$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local>
Message-ID: <E33CB105E2D14012A75759AD3143278A@xp>

Don't remember the specifics, but do remember it discussed many times on the
311s.org forums.

Pete 

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oliver
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:10 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67

what's involved in switching out the existing speedo and tach to an
aftermarket replacement unit?

the new ones are all electric, right?  so there has to be some kind of
converter?

thanks!

btw i am already in the process of installing aftermarket gages for
everything else.  i had thought i would retain the speedo and tach but now
i'm exploring the possibility of replacing those too. 
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Sun Apr 12 22:24:12 2009
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (Peter Harrison)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:24:12 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Ignition coil
References: <49E2AA05.3090701@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV92FB6CDF7B3F683A59BE9DF7F0@phx.gbl>

Recent experience

Depending upon the coil - need ballast resistor - or not - make sure that 
you specify that you are using electronic - i had a lucas coil that worked 
fine - when i changed i forget to mention - thus fried ignition - now ok

Peter 

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Sun Apr 12 22:56:26 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:56:26 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Ignition coil
In-Reply-To: <BAY106-DAV92FB6CDF7B3F683A59BE9DF7F0@phx.gbl>
References: <49E2AA05.3090701@socal.rr.com>
	<BAY106-DAV92FB6CDF7B3F683A59BE9DF7F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <49E2C5FA.6080103@socal.rr.com>

Wait a sec, I'm confused...

Someone else sent me this info:

"just to clarify, if you remove the resistor, you can use the same 
ignition coil for points and hei. "

So, which is it? 

Eddie


Peter Harrison wrote:
> Recent experience
>
> Depending upon the coil - need ballast resistor - or not - make sure 
> that you specify that you are using electronic - i had a lucas coil 
> that worked fine - when i changed i forget to mention - thus fried 
> ignition - now ok
>
> Peter

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Sun Apr 12 23:09:21 2009
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 22:09:21 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67
References: <562773.63164.qm@web32008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<001701c9bbed$aa4b13a0$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local>
Message-ID: <D71FF5D85B6F430AAFE4E87C9B915281@Daryl>

You can still get the mechanical speedo's, and possibly the tach as well.
As Pete says there is, IIRC a thread, with pictures, on 311s.org.
If you wanted to go all electric, the Classic Instruments 'hot rod' series 
has been used in quite a few roadsters and is quite similar to the early 
roadster gauges, but is all electronic, and you may have to do some minor 
fabricating for the speedo, unless one of the later electronic sending units 
will bolt in.
It would probably look best if you got a complete set of gauges.........ie: 
match the ones you are already installing........??
Daryl
'66 with Classic Instruments gauges.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "oliver" <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:09 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67


> what's involved in switching out the existing speedo and tach to an 
> aftermarket replacement unit?
>
> the new ones are all electric, right?  so there has to be some kind of 
> converter?
>
> thanks!
>
> btw i am already in the process of installing aftermarket gages for 
> everything else.  i had thought i would retain the speedo and tach but now 
> i'm exploring the possibility of replacing those too.

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Sun Apr 12 23:16:12 2009
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 22:16:12 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Ignition coil
References: <49E2AA05.3090701@socal.rr.com>
	<BAY106-DAV92FB6CDF7B3F683A59BE9DF7F0@phx.gbl>
	<49E2C5FA.6080103@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <EB4024B484D94421A1084DCB846A34A2@Daryl>

Points - needs ballast resistor
Pertronix - needs ballast resistor
EI dizzy with stock coil - needs ballast resistor
EI dizzy with 12V coil - NO ballast resistor
Stock or EI dizzy with MSD/Crane etc. and 12V coil - NO ballast resistor (I 
don't think a stock coil would be wise with this setup so don't even try 
it!)

Clear enough??

Daryl


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>

> Wait a sec, I'm confused...
>
> Someone else sent me this info:
>
> "just to clarify, if you remove the resistor, you can use the same 
> ignition coil for points and hei. "
>
> So, which is it?
> Eddie
>
>
> Peter Harrison wrote:
>> Recent experience
>>
>> Depending upon the coil - need ballast resistor - or not - make sure that 
>> you specify that you are using electronic - i had a lucas coil that 
>> worked fine - when i changed i forget to mention - thus fried ignition - 
>> now ok
>>
>> Peter

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Sun Apr 12 23:37:38 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 22:37:38 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Ignition coil
In-Reply-To: <EB4024B484D94421A1084DCB846A34A2@Daryl>
References: <49E2AA05.3090701@socal.rr.com>
	<BAY106-DAV92FB6CDF7B3F683A59BE9DF7F0@phx.gbl>
	<49E2C5FA.6080103@socal.rr.com>
	<EB4024B484D94421A1084DCB846A34A2@Daryl>
Message-ID: <49E2CFA2.7090809@socal.rr.com>

Not exactly....

IE "dizzy"?  What's a "dizzy"? 

Why does the stock coil need a resistor but the 12v does not? 

Eddie

Daryl Smith wrote:
> Points - needs ballast resistor
> Pertronix - needs ballast resistor
> EI dizzy with stock coil - needs ballast resistor
> EI dizzy with 12V coil - NO ballast resistor
> Stock or EI dizzy with MSD/Crane etc. and 12V coil - NO ballast 
> resistor (I don't think a stock coil would be wise with this setup so 
> don't even try it!)
>
> Clear enough??
>
> Daryl
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
>
>> Wait a sec, I'm confused...
>>
>> Someone else sent me this info:
>>
>> "just to clarify, if you remove the resistor, you can use the same 
>> ignition coil for points and hei. "
>>
>> So, which is it?
>> Eddie
>>
>>
>> Peter Harrison wrote:
>>> Recent experience
>>>
>>> Depending upon the coil - need ballast resistor - or not - make sure 
>>> that you specify that you are using electronic - i had a lucas coil 
>>> that worked fine - when i changed i forget to mention - thus fried 
>>> ignition - now ok
>>>
>>> Peter

From datsunroadsters at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 13 00:39:22 2009
From: datsunroadsters at yahoo.com (Eddie Wu)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 23:39:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Sighting-San Jose, Ca
Message-ID: <543388.47155.qm@web111509.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I think that's the same Roadster I see around my work.  If so, the owner is an older guy that works at Lockheed Martin in Sunnyvale.  

He has left a note on my Roadster and we've chatted about Roadsters over the phone.  He's not on the "List" if I remember correctly.  Unfortunately, I forget his name.

-Eddie

--- On Sun, 4/12/09, alvin gogineni <alvingogi at hotmail.com> wrote:
> I remember seeing this roadster while
> out for a walk in the neighborhood ~last
> year. We took the roadster out today and I tried driving in
> the same area and
> the same roadster was out in the driveway! It's a '69 SRl
> with a hardtop,
> anyone on here?
> 
> http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2959965750103926530fSVbGD

From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Mon Apr 13 07:14:07 2009
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 08:14:07 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67
In-Reply-To: <001701c9bbed$aa4b13a0$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local>
References: <562773.63164.qm@web32008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<001701c9bbed$aa4b13a0$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local>
Message-ID: <2faaebf80904130614t10833bcaj2673baf436eadb2c@mail.gmail.com>

You might want to chek out www.egauges.com. They offer a wide variety
of brands and styles at good prices. You can probably go either
mechanical or electric for the speedo and tach, but mechanical may be
tougher to adapt and calibrate.

I like the 270 sweep mechanical gauges for oil pressure and temp (if
you use one - not a bad idea, btw) and water temp. Using that style
lets you see if the readings are in the ballpark with only a quick
glance.

I used Autometer 2 7/8 Phantom series oil pressure and water temp on my car.

> what's involved in switching out the existing speedo and tach to an
> aftermarket replacement unit?
>
> the new ones are all electric, right?  so there has to be some kind of
> converter?
>
> thanks!
>
> btw i am already in the process of installing aftermarket gages for
> everything else.  i had thought i would retain the speedo and tach but now
> i'm exploring the possibility of replacing those too.
> ________________________________________

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Mon Apr 13 07:16:30 2009
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 09:16:30 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] weighing my car
Message-ID: <d00.52089ed4.3714952e@aol.com>

I've weighed vehicles and such at commercial truck scales. The big brand is 
 "CAT" scales. They have a series of scales. The idea being to weigh each 
set of  wheels on a semi separately at the same time. So you can park with 
the front on  one and the back on another and get your front to rear ratio 
also.
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 4/12/2009 6:41:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
mikefaggart at gmail.com writes:

You can  always take it to a moving company, they have scales that  weigh
trucks.  Also, any truck stop with a scale, should cost you  around $7-10.

mike faggart
seroc
68 2L

On Sun, Apr 12,  2009 at 3:32 PM, steven boortz <
vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com>  wrote:

> hi everyone
> i need to know the weight of my car  (not of roadsters in general).  i 
live
> in northeast los angeles,  and can drive it pretty much anywhere in the
> greater LA basin.   anyone know where i could take it to weigh it?  anyone
> have  scales they wouldn't mind my car on for a few seconds?
> thanks in  advance
> steve
> 675MIZU
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Mon Apr 13 08:03:28 2009
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 10:03:28 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Ignition coil
In-Reply-To: <49E2CFA2.7090809@socal.rr.com>
References: <49E2AA05.3090701@socal.rr.com><BAY106-DAV92FB6CDF7B3F683A59BE9DF7F0@phx.gbl><49E2C5FA.6080103@socal.rr.com><EB4024B484D94421A1084DCB846A34A2@Daryl>
	<49E2CFA2.7090809@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <8CB8A57C14B53D1-71C-104@webmail-dh29.sysops.aol.com>

 Dizzy is short for distributor.
Linda


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
To: Daryl Smith <drlsmith at dccnet.com>
Cc: Datsun at autox.team.net; List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:37 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ignition coil









Not exactly....?
?

IE "dizzy"?  What's a "dizzy"? ?

Why does the stock coil need a resistor but the 12v does not? ?

Eddie?
?

Daryl Smith wrote:?

> Points - needs ballast resistor?

> Pertronix - needs ballast resistor?

> EI dizzy with stock coil - needs ballast resistor?

> EI dizzy with 12V coil - NO ballast resistor?

> Stock or EI dizzy with MSD/Crane etc. and 12V coil - NO ballast 
> resistor (I don't think a stock coil would be wise with this setup so 
> don't even try it!)?

>?

> Clear enough???

>?

> Daryl?

>?

>?

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>?

>?

>> Wait a sec, I'm confused...?

>>?

>> Someone else sent me this info:?

>>?

>> "just to clarify, if you remove the resistor, you can use the same 
>> ignition coil for points and hei. "?

>>?

>> So, which is it??

>> Eddie?

>>?

>>?

>> Peter Harrison wrote:?

>>> Recent experience?

>>>?

>>> Depending upon the coil - need ballast resistor - or not - make sure 
>>> that you specify that you are using electronic - i had a lucas coil 
>>> that worked fine - when i changed i forget to mention - thus fried 
>>> ignition - now ok?

>>>?

>>> Peter?

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From vulforge at aol.com  Mon Apr 13 08:40:04 2009
From: vulforge at aol.com (vulforge at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 10:40:04 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Wiring
Message-ID: <8CB8A5CDE46F2FD-E20-1610@WEBMAIL-DF12.sysops.aol.com>

The short answer is to throw away the old alternator and voltage regulator and install a GM "one-wire" alternator.? The hardest part of that swap is finding a GM alternator without having to have a core to trade.? I do the conversion quick and dirty.? Simply cut down the mounting lug on the alternator with a bandsaw til it lines up the pulleys.? Then a small bend on the stock adjuster bracket and bolt it down.? Nothing changed on the car, so you could always go back to stock if desired.? I have run this conversion on both my 510's and the roadster for many years.


Russell Criswell
Vulcan's Forge
3936 Broadway
Kansas City, MO
64111

816-931-6303
816-931-9378 fax
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From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Mon Apr 13 09:23:11 2009
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 10:23:11 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Wiring
In-Reply-To: <8CB8A5CDE46F2FD-E20-1610@WEBMAIL-DF12.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CB8A5CDE46F2FD-E20-1610@WEBMAIL-DF12.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <2faaebf80904130823x3c43bf4bgdabae9d14e3519a9@mail.gmail.com>

Don't rember what year your car is, but I'd suggest several things.
First get a copy of the Auto Electrical Handbook by Jim Horner,
published by HP Books (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0895862387)
and read it cover to cover. Then go to www,311s.org, click on the
PMWIKI Tech Section (top item in the left frame), click on Electrical
and read the relavant sections regarding alternators and such.

Then click on Schematics: Wiring Diagrams and look through those. Jim
Bain's done a truly incredible job of creating the color versions and
I/we all greatly appreciate them being availble on the site. Select
the color one that best fits your car (in its stock condition) and
save the PDF to disk or a pin drive, take it to Staples, Kinkos, etc,
and have it printed and laminated as large as you can afford. Staple
charged me $20 to do a 2 ft x 3 ft for my '70 but it's worth it, IMO.
They'll do 11 x 17 for around $2.00, but the larger size is much
easier to read.

Get yourself a digital volt/ohm meter and a set of leads that includes
alligator clips, etc. You're going to have to compare and match the
different circuits in the OEM harness with the one you bought.
Depending on the number of circuits in the new harness you may not use
them all.

This is not a simple process, even though it may appear to be. You can
get badly hurt and ruin some very expensive bits and pieces if you do
the wrong thing. If you're not familiar with DC and some AC electrical
theory you might want to reconsider tackling this without someone on
hand to walk you through it. Not trying to belittle your abililties,
but I'd rather tick you off than see you ruin something or see you get
hurt.

FWIW,
Ron


-- 
Ron

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Mon Apr 13 10:00:24 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 09:00:24 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Wiring
In-Reply-To: <2faaebf80904130823x3c43bf4bgdabae9d14e3519a9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8CB8A5CDE46F2FD-E20-1610@WEBMAIL-DF12.sysops.aol.com>
	<2faaebf80904130823x3c43bf4bgdabae9d14e3519a9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49E36198.3070909@socal.rr.com>

Hey Everyone!

Thanks for all the advice, suggestion, etc. 

After a long exchange off list with another roadster owner, it's clear 
the best option is to simply replace the stock stuff with a GM 
alternator, so that's what I'm going to do.

Simpler, easier, my aftermarket wiring harness is already set up for 
that, and will be faster. 

Now I've got TWO roadster Alternators I need to get rid of along with a 
voltage regulator.  One is basically brand new, having been recently 
rebuilt by a reputable shop, the other is a used unit that worked fine 
when I took the car apart...

Eddie

Ronnie Day wrote:
> Don't rember what year your car is, but I'd suggest several things.
> First get a copy of the Auto Electrical Handbook by Jim Horner,
> published by HP Books (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0895862387)
> and read it cover to cover. Then go to www,311s.org, click on the
> PMWIKI Tech Section (top item in the left frame), click on Electrical
> and read the relavant sections regarding alternators and such.
>
> Then click on Schematics: Wiring Diagrams and look through those. Jim
> Bain's done a truly incredible job of creating the color versions and
> I/we all greatly appreciate them being availble on the site. Select
> the color one that best fits your car (in its stock condition) and
> save the PDF to disk or a pin drive, take it to Staples, Kinkos, etc,
> and have it printed and laminated as large as you can afford. Staple
> charged me $20 to do a 2 ft x 3 ft for my '70 but it's worth it, IMO.
> They'll do 11 x 17 for around $2.00, but the larger size is much
> easier to read.
>
> Get yourself a digital volt/ohm meter and a set of leads that includes
> alligator clips, etc. You're going to have to compare and match the
> different circuits in the OEM harness with the one you bought.
> Depending on the number of circuits in the new harness you may not use
> them all.
>
> This is not a simple process, even though it may appear to be. You can
> get badly hurt and ruin some very expensive bits and pieces if you do
> the wrong thing. If you're not familiar with DC and some AC electrical
> theory you might want to reconsider tackling this without someone on
> hand to walk you through it. Not trying to belittle your abililties,
> but I'd rather tick you off than see you ruin something or see you get
> hurt.
>
> FWIW,
> Ron

From jeffzster at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 13 16:32:04 2009
From: jeffzster at yahoo.com (jeffzster at yahoo.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 15:32:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Important Solvang Announcement
Message-ID: <647331.33586.qm@web110406.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hello All!!
 
Well...early registration is now closed. Thanks to everyone who registered
before April 11th. I know how life is though and if you could not register
before the 11th, we at the show understand. Kids, past commitments, jobs,
etc..all can complicate things at times! This does not mean we don't want you
to come though! If you think you still might make it or are going to make it,
but just didn't register in time, please let me know so I can get a rough
count on everything. We will have a very limited supply of event clothing and
Banquet dinner tickets on a first come first serve basis.
 
We will be in Solvang Friday April 24th by 8:00 A.M. and will be staying at
the Motel 6 in Buellton. We will also be registering on Friday
evening Mendenhall's for all who want to register then. If not, bright and
early Saturday morning, the day of the event.
 
Soooo..the countdown is on! See you in two weeks! Thanks to all for the help
in getting the word out!
 
Jeff T.
 

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Mon Apr 13 20:31:58 2009
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 22:31:58 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] join
Message-ID: <755EA787E18E4727930FAD223F957BA3@delled48909442>


From gmagana at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 14 00:23:15 2009
From: gmagana at yahoo.com (Gerardo Magana)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 23:23:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw:  RE; adaptors: Grant or Mome: steering wheels
Message-ID: <226646.40709.qm@web83003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello All, 

The Momo adapters are something we made to fit to the grant adapter, without the CNC version we made the steering wheel position is farther from the dash, the one we made makes it so that it stays close to the column, fits over the grant adapter and looks like the original.  I am going to have to find some pictures.
Later

 Gerardo Magana
209-499-9193
www.fairladyparts.com

From d_kroninger at hotmail.com  Tue Apr 14 11:53:33 2009
From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:53:33 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Security
Message-ID: <BAY139-W130D10B3A798C814BD861D9B7C0@phx.gbl>

Hey all,



I have a general question for everyone.  I don't have a car at the moment, but
hopefully will soon.  I am talking to some other members about road trips this
summer and was wondering what everyone does for security.  I have seen some
people who have the battery disconnect switch wired in, but are there any
other options on top of that to keep the car safe from theft when it is not
locked in the garage?  I know getting in will be easy for anyone who is
determined, but there must be some deterrents out there.  Do people use "the
club" anymore?  Let me know what you think.



Thanks,

Dan

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From plhbauman at earthlink.net  Tue Apr 14 12:05:46 2009
From: plhbauman at earthlink.net (Paul Bauman)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:05:46 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Security
In-Reply-To: <BAY139-W130D10B3A798C814BD861D9B7C0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY139-W130D10B3A798C814BD861D9B7C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1239732346.5394.9.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Dan:

My car has a mechanical distributor. If I get more parking paranoid than
I usually am I just pull the rotor and take it with me.

Paul Bauman
Westminster, CA
67 1600


On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 12:53 -0500, Dan Kroninger wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> 
> 
> I have a general question for everyone.  I don't have a car at the moment, but
> hopefully will soon.  I am talking to some other members about road trips this
> summer and was wondering what everyone does for security.  I have seen some
> people who have the battery disconnect switch wired in, but are there any
> other options on top of that to keep the car safe from theft when it is not
> locked in the garage?  I know getting in will be easy for anyone who is
> determined, but there must be some deterrents out there.  Do people use "the
> club" anymore?  Let me know what you think.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dan

From steve at olsonarchitect.com  Tue Apr 14 12:13:32 2009
From: steve at olsonarchitect.com (Stephen Wan)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:13:32 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Security
References: <BAY139-W130D10B3A798C814BD861D9B7C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <2881919E3E5042D39CD5321BB891E908@Stephen>

When I used to store the car at work,  I used a club in addition to a brake 
pedal lock.
Then I would use a car cover on top and roll the 4 wheels onto the edges of 
the cover.
I would have to roll the car forward to remove the cover.
When it comes to security, it's always better to double up.
Make it look like it's more time consuming and riskier than it's worth.

Steve

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Kroninger" <d_kroninger at hotmail.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 10:53 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Security


> Hey all,
>
>
>
> I have a general question for everyone.  I don't have a car at the moment, 
> but
> hopefully will soon.  I am talking to some other members about road trips 
> this
> summer and was wondering what everyone does for security.  I have seen 
> some
> people who have the battery disconnect switch wired in, but are there any
> other options on top of that to keep the car safe from theft when it is 
> not
> locked in the garage?  I know getting in will be easy for anyone who is
> determined, but there must be some deterrents out there.  Do people use 
> "the
> club" anymore?  Let me know what you think.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan



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From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Tue Apr 14 12:14:33 2009
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:14:33 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Security
In-Reply-To: <1239732346.5394.9.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <BAY139-W130D10B3A798C814BD861D9B7C0@phx.gbl>
	<1239732346.5394.9.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <b0b0059f0904141114m5e58ee3al90d7fbe89a6e8703@mail.gmail.com>

You can always put a Navy Seal in your trunk...

On 4/14/09, Paul Bauman <plhbauman at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Dan:
>
> My car has a mechanical distributor. If I get more parking paranoid than
> I usually am I just pull the rotor and take it with me.
>
> Paul Bauman
> Westminster, CA
> 67 1600
>
>
> On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 12:53 -0500, Dan Kroninger wrote:
> > Hey all,
> >
> >
> >
> > I have a general question for everyone.  I don't have a car at the
> moment, but
> > hopefully will soon.  I am talking to some other members about road trips
> this
> > summer and was wondering what everyone does for security.  I have seen
> some
> > people who have the battery disconnect switch wired in, but are there any
> > other options on top of that to keep the car safe from theft when it is
> not
> > locked in the garage?  I know getting in will be easy for anyone who is
> > determined, but there must be some deterrents out there.  Do people use
> "the
> > club" anymore?  Let me know what you think.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dan
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If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky
enough.

From d_kroninger at hotmail.com  Tue Apr 14 12:19:12 2009
From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:19:12 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Security
In-Reply-To: <2881919E3E5042D39CD5321BB891E908@Stephen>
References: <BAY139-W130D10B3A798C814BD861D9B7C0@phx.gbl>
	<2881919E3E5042D39CD5321BB891E908@Stephen>
Message-ID: <BAY139-W16263E656EA99CAAF4AEF69B7C0@phx.gbl>

> When I used to store the car at work, I used a club in addition to a brake
> pedal lock.


What is a brake pedal lock?  It sounds straight forward, but I have never
heard of this.



How much does a Navy seal go for these days?  I assume they are busy fighting
hook handed pirates out on the planks

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From aybreeze at comcast.net  Tue Apr 14 12:53:54 2009
From: aybreeze at comcast.net (aybreeze at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:53:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Security  of your Roadster
Message-ID: <1590351305.1941351239735234697.JavaMail.root@sz0038a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

The safest thing is LO JackB !

B at least you find it before it is very far and usually still in one piece

Most thieves looking for rare cars will will use a lift and tow method

some side lift with fork lift and put straight into side loading box trailer

so it is completly hiddenB  all depends on how much they want it !

Keep smiling
B B  B  B  Arthur

From aybreeze at comcast.net  Tue Apr 14 12:53:54 2009
From: aybreeze at comcast.net (aybreeze at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:53:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Security  of your Roadster
Message-ID: <1590351305.1941351239735234697.JavaMail.root@sz0038a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

The safest thing is LO JackB !

B at least you find it before it is very far and usually still in one piece

Most thieves looking for rare cars will will use a lift and tow method

some side lift with fork lift and put straight into side loading box trailer

so it is completly hiddenB  all depends on how much they want it !

Keep smiling
B B  B  B  Arthur

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Tue Apr 14 13:15:41 2009
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:15:41 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Security
In-Reply-To: <1239732346.5394.9.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <BAY139-W130D10B3A798C814BD861D9B7C0@phx.gbl>
	<1239732346.5394.9.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <003101c9bd35$67fadd20$37f09760$@net>

I used to do this, but one time someone tried to steal the car and managed
to run the battery down by continually cranking on it (didn't do the starter
any good, either). A somewhat better solution (one that can be used in
addition to removing the rotor) is to disconnect the wiring harness
connector that goes to the starter. It's hard to see, so not obvious to a
would-be thief, and even if he does figure it out, the car still won't start
if the rotor is removed. At that point, he's likely to just give up rather
than spend any more time messing with it.

BTW, a SEAL in the trunk tends to upset the handling balance of the car. An
inflatable Jenna Jamieson doll that automatically inflates might cause the
perp to forget all about the car, and would weigh considerably less.  ;-)

Gordon Glasgow
Renton, WA
-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Bauman
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:06 AM
To: Autox
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Security

Dan:

My car has a mechanical distributor. If I get more parking paranoid than
I usually am I just pull the rotor and take it with me.

Paul Bauman
Westminster, CA
67 1600


On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 12:53 -0500, Dan Kroninger wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> 
> 
> I have a general question for everyone.  I don't have a car at the moment,
but
> hopefully will soon.  I am talking to some other members about road trips
this
> summer and was wondering what everyone does for security.  I have seen
some
> people who have the battery disconnect switch wired in, but are there any
> other options on top of that to keep the car safe from theft when it is
not
> locked in the garage?  I know getting in will be easy for anyone who is
> determined, but there must be some deterrents out there.  Do people use
"the
> club" anymore?  Let me know what you think.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dan
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From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Tue Apr 14 13:18:18 2009
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:18:18 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Security
References: <BAY139-W130D10B3A798C814BD861D9B7C0@phx.gbl><1239732346.5394.9.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<003101c9bd35$67fadd20$37f09760$@net>
Message-ID: <000901c9bd35$d17a7670$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local>

that was part of  the reason i installed the battery in the trunk with a 
disconnect switch!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
To: "'Paul Bauman'" <plhbauman at earthlink.net>; "'Autox'" 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Security


>I used to do this, but one time someone tried to steal the car and managed
> to run the battery down by continually cranking on it (didn't do the 
> starter
> any good, either). A somewhat better solution (one that can be used in
> addition to removing the rotor) is to disconnect the wiring harness
> connector that goes to the starter. It's hard to see, so not obvious to a
> would-be thief, and even if he does figure it out, the car still won't 
> start
> if the rotor is removed. At that point, he's likely to just give up rather
> than spend any more time messing with it.
>
> BTW, a SEAL in the trunk tends to upset the handling balance of the car. 
> An
> inflatable Jenna Jamieson doll that automatically inflates might cause the
> perp to forget all about the car, and would weigh considerably less.  ;-)
>
> Gordon Glasgow
> Renton, WA
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Bauman
> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:06 AM
> To: Autox
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Security
>
> Dan:
>
> My car has a mechanical distributor. If I get more parking paranoid than
> I usually am I just pull the rotor and take it with me.
>
> Paul Bauman
> Westminster, CA
> 67 1600
>
>
> On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 12:53 -0500, Dan Kroninger wrote:
>> Hey all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a general question for everyone.  I don't have a car at the 
>> moment,
> but
>> hopefully will soon.  I am talking to some other members about road trips
> this
>> summer and was wondering what everyone does for security.  I have seen
> some
>> people who have the battery disconnect switch wired in, but are there any
>> other options on top of that to keep the car safe from theft when it is
> not
>> locked in the garage?  I know getting in will be easy for anyone who is
>> determined, but there must be some deterrents out there.  Do people use
> "the
>> club" anymore?  Let me know what you think.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dan
> Datsun-roadsters mailing list

From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com  Tue Apr 14 14:58:41 2009
From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:58:41 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Security
In-Reply-To: <BAY139-W130D10B3A798C814BD861D9B7C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C60A4711.154FA%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>

First things first, although I hate to say this, a 40+ year old Roadster
should not be your only means of transportation for a variety of really
practical reasons. So if you have another means of getting around, don't
take your Roadster if the resulting parking situation may be questionable.
Consider where you are living and where you will be driving.

Car cover. Discourages random vandalism and completely downplays your
beautiful Roadster.

Ignition cut-out switch. The safety brake test switch on '68s - '70s makes a
good one. (Besides, a lot of Roadster owners don't know what that is and
even if they do, they have probably never used it anyway.)

Common sense. For example, don't take your Roadster to the midnight showing
of the Rocky Horror Picture Show or park it on the street overnight.

Hope this helps,
Greg 
SRL31100494



On 4/14/09 10:53 AM, "Dan Kroninger" <d_kroninger at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hey all,
> 
> 
> 
> I have a general question for everyone.  I don't have a car at the moment, but
> hopefully will soon.  I am talking to some other members about road trips this
> summer and was wondering what everyone does for security.  I have seen some
> people who have the battery disconnect switch wired in, but are there any
> other options on top of that to keep the car safe from theft when it is not
> locked in the garage?  I know getting in will be easy for anyone who is
> determined, but there must be some deterrents out there.  Do people use "the
> club" anymore?  Let me know what you think.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dan
> 
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From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 14 15:00:07 2009
From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:00:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Security  of your Roadster
In-Reply-To: <1590351305.1941351239735234697.JavaMail.root@sz0038a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <29464.73900.qm@web53511.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

 Lift and tow?!  Fork lift??!!    AH, GEEZ!!    Now I'm really, really
paranoid!!
Patti

--- On Tue, 4/14/09, aybreeze at comcast.net <aybreeze at comcast.net> wrote:
From: aybreeze at comcast.net <aybreeze at comcast.net>
Subject: [Roadsters] Security  of your Roadster
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 11:53 AM

The safest thing is LO JackB !

B at least you find it before it is very far and usually still in one piece

Most thieves looking for rare cars will will use a lift and tow method

some side lift with fork lift and put straight into side loading box trailer

so it is completly hiddenB  all depends on how much they want it !

Keep smiling
B B  B  B  Arthur

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Tue Apr 14 18:03:12 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:03:12 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Security
In-Reply-To: <000901c9bd35$d17a7670$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local>
References: <BAY139-W130D10B3A798C814BD861D9B7C0@phx.gbl><1239732346.5394.9.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<003101c9bd35$67fadd20$37f09760$@net>
	<000901c9bd35$d17a7670$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local>
Message-ID: <49E52440.3020205@socal.rr.com>

I just disconnect the driveshaft any time I'm going to leave the car for 
more than an hour or two...



oliver wrote:
> that was part of  the reason i installed the battery in the trunk with 
> a disconnect switch!
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Glasgow" 
> <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
> To: "'Paul Bauman'" <plhbauman at earthlink.net>; "'Autox'" 
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 2:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Security
>
>
>> I used to do this, but one time someone tried to steal the car and 
>> managed
>> to run the battery down by continually cranking on it (didn't do the 
>> starter
>> any good, either). A somewhat better solution (one that can be used in
>> addition to removing the rotor) is to disconnect the wiring harness
>> connector that goes to the starter. It's hard to see, so not obvious 
>> to a
>> would-be thief, and even if he does figure it out, the car still 
>> won't start
>> if the rotor is removed. At that point, he's likely to just give up 
>> rather
>> than spend any more time messing with it.
>>
>> BTW, a SEAL in the trunk tends to upset the handling balance of the 
>> car. An
>> inflatable Jenna Jamieson doll that automatically inflates might 
>> cause the
>> perp to forget all about the car, and would weigh considerably less.  
>> ;-)
>>
>> Gordon Glasgow
>> Renton, WA
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
>> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul 
>> Bauman
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:06 AM
>> To: Autox
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Security
>>
>> Dan:
>>
>> My car has a mechanical distributor. If I get more parking paranoid than
>> I usually am I just pull the rotor and take it with me.
>>
>> Paul Bauman
>> Westminster, CA
>> 67 1600
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 12:53 -0500, Dan Kroninger wrote:
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a general question for everyone.  I don't have a car at the 
>>> moment,
>> but
>>> hopefully will soon.  I am talking to some other members about road 
>>> trips
>> this
>>> summer and was wondering what everyone does for security.  I have seen
>> some
>>> people who have the battery disconnect switch wired in, but are 
>>> there any
>>> other options on top of that to keep the car safe from theft when it is
>> not
>>> locked in the garage?  I know getting in will be easy for anyone who is
>>> determined, but there must be some deterrents out there.  Do people use
>> "the
>>> club" anymore?  Let me know what you think.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Dan
>> Datsun-roadsters mailing list
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From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Wed Apr 15 00:00:55 2009
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:00:55 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Valve cover oil leak....
References: <722AB5430DFF42D6AD94B05794D3AEC8@Daryl>
	<89789EE5611C414A91DA467A05EA0BF9@mdo>
	<9B1B4E5520D04C3CB669391BD9A164A0@Daryl>
	<7644D424267E4A19B86237E639D7369A@mdo>
	<E19090AB66D14947B30956302EF48AB8@Daryl>
	<F9D9DCC3C84747748D3190148566A4C3@mdo>
	<0AD06CF0CC184730B689F6A0A1DA8E0C@Daryl>
	<A39080559BC34EDEBF4F3052C50A9044@mdo>
	<CEBBB95439444943BFC574669CFA7249@Daryl>
	<CC5DB5C62F704367B2CCA2B59390604F@mdo>
Message-ID: <563863F372C445A7BA0DE3EA73ACB32C@Daryl>

Ok. how do you get the oil pan off with the engine in the car?
I removed all the bolts, loosened the gasket,..... and it'll only drop down about a half inch!!!??

Do you need to remove the header (which is alsmost resting on the oilpan)? (move it to the left?)
It seems to be catching on the oil pump(?), but I can't seem to move it in any way to get it past where it catches.....but then there is oil in the pan also, so I'm trying not to spill.
I am pulling it apart because it is leaking at the front. I don't see any leaks from the front seal or timing chain cover. I was hoping for a quick drop/cleanup, and re-install. It isn't working that way!!!

I've got to get this thing on the road real soon (yesterday would have been nice). Any help appreciated........

Thanks
Daryl

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Wed Apr 15 00:18:12 2009
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 02:18:12 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Valve cover oil leak....
In-Reply-To: <563863F372C445A7BA0DE3EA73ACB32C@Daryl>
References: <722AB5430DFF42D6AD94B05794D3AEC8@Daryl><89789EE5611C414A91DA467A05EA0BF9@mdo><9B1B4E5520D04C3CB669391BD9A164A0@Daryl><7644D424267E4A19B86237E639D7369A@mdo><E19090AB66D14947B30956302EF48AB8@Daryl><F9D9DCC3C84747748D3190148566A4C3@mdo><0AD06CF0CC184730B689F6A0A1DA8E0C@Daryl><A39080559BC34EDEBF4F3052C50A9044@mdo><CEBBB95439444943BFC574669CFA7249@Daryl><CC5DB5C62F704367B2CCA2B59390604F@mdo>
	<563863F372C445A7BA0DE3EA73ACB32C@Daryl>
Message-ID: <8CB8BA9168CD28F-84-2531@webmail-dh07.sysops.aol.com>

 It came straight off on my 1600 with stock exhaust manifold. Tap with a rubber mallet, and not sure but there may be a couple of studs in the front, otherwise? screws all around.
You might want to drain the oil though.

Linda


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Daryl Smith <drlsmith at dccnet.com>
To: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:00 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Valve cover oil leak....










Ok. how do you get the oil pan off with the engine in the car?
I removed all the bolts, loosened the gasket,..... and it'll only drop down 
about a half inch!!!??

Do you need to remove the header (which is alsmost resting on the oilpan)? (move 
it to the left?)
It seems to be catching on the oil pump(?), but I can't seem to move it in any 
way to get it past where it catches.....but then there is oil in the pan also, 
so I'm trying not to spill.
I am pulling it apart because it is leaking at the front. I don't see any leaks 
from the front seal or timing chain cover. I was hoping for a quick 
drop/cleanup, and re-install. It isn't working that way!!!

I've got to get this thing on the road real soon (yesterday would have been 
nice). Any help appreciated........

Thanks
Daryl
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From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Wed Apr 15 01:26:16 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:26:16 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Rag Top Options... Vinyl or Stayfast Cloth???
Message-ID: <49E58C18.6010008@socal.rr.com>

Ok,

So I'm about to order my top for my car, and i have found a company 
online that lists the vinyl tops for $319 and the stayfast Cloth for $75 
additional.

What's the pro's and con's of each? 

Anyone?

Thanks.

Eddie

From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Wed Apr 15 07:06:57 2009
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 08:06:57 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Rag Top Options... Vinyl or Stayfast Cloth???
In-Reply-To: <49E58C18.6010008@socal.rr.com>
References: <49E58C18.6010008@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <2faaebf80904150606x12cc7e9av1ac259daf0ad605c@mail.gmail.com>

> Eddie
>
> So I'm about to order my top for my car, and i have found a company online
> that lists the vinyl tops for $319 and the stayfast Cloth for $75
> additional.
>
> What's the pro's and con's of each?
> Anyone?

I bought the Stayfast canvas and wouldn't hesitate to do so again. I
think it looks better, it'll last longer, it shouldn't shrink over
time nearly as much as the vinyl (if at all), and it's really not that
much more all things considered.

FWIW,
Ron

From boakes at gmail.com  Wed Apr 15 09:16:25 2009
From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:16:25 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Bring a trailer email list
Message-ID: <3ad057d60904150816k533af04brb5d394be7a2dff29@mail.gmail.com>

If you don't know about this list, you should jump on, great fun.

Bring a Trailer is a email/website produced by the guys at Grassroots,
today's features one of ours:

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From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Wed Apr 15 10:49:06 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 09:49:06 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Rag Top Options... Vinyl or Stayfast Cloth???
In-Reply-To: <2faaebf80904150606x12cc7e9av1ac259daf0ad605c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49E58C18.6010008@socal.rr.com>
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Message-ID: <49E61002.6040309@socal.rr.com>

Hey Everybody,

Thanks for all the emails about which top to use.  Stayfast Canvas won 
hands down.  I was concerned about the "waterproofness" of the canvas, 
but I guess it's ok, so no worries.

Seems the canvas looks better, lasts longer, and is overall nicer, so 
that's what I'm going to order! 

Eddie



Ronnie Day wrote:
>> Eddie
>>
>> So I'm about to order my top for my car, and i have found a company online
>> that lists the vinyl tops for $319 and the stayfast Cloth for $75
>> additional.
>>
>> What's the pro's and con's of each?
>> Anyone?
>>     
>
> I bought the Stayfast canvas and wouldn't hesitate to do so again. I
> think it looks better, it'll last longer, it shouldn't shrink over
> time nearly as much as the vinyl (if at all), and it's really not that
> much more all things considered.
>
> FWIW,
> Ron
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From vulforge at aol.com  Wed Apr 15 15:32:06 2009
From: vulforge at aol.com (vulforge at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:32:06 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Stayfast top
Message-ID: <8CB8C28C26313E9-988-B33@WEBMAIL-MB12.sysops.aol.com>

I have the Stayfast top, and recommend it.? Also get the zip-down rear window option.? Lets you open up the back and keep shade overhead.


Russell Criswell
Vulcan's Forge
3936 Broadway
Kansas City, MO
64111

816-931-6303
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From aultgc at att.net  Wed Apr 15 18:54:59 2009
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:54:59 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Rag Top Options... Vinyl or Stayfast Cloth???
References: <49E58C18.6010008@socal.rr.com>
	<2faaebf80904150606x12cc7e9av1ac259daf0ad605c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E084137E2C0644B5A16B2CC2B4192D9C@gaxp1>

Eddie,

I'm happy with the Stayfast top on my car.  From previous messages I have 
read, they seem to enjoy a good reputation among the roadster crowd.

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ronnie Day" <ronnie.day at gmail.com>
To: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rag Top Options... Vinyl or Stayfast Cloth???


>> Eddie
>>
>> So I'm about to order my top for my car, and i have found a company 
>> online
>> that lists the vinyl tops for $319 and the stayfast Cloth for $75
>> additional.
>>
>> What's the pro's and con's of each?
>> Anyone?
>
> I bought the Stayfast canvas and wouldn't hesitate to do so again. I
> think it looks better, it'll last longer, it shouldn't shrink over
> time nearly as much as the vinyl (if at all), and it's really not that
> much more all things considered.
>
> FWIW,
> Ron
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From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Wed Apr 15 22:58:11 2009
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:58:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] "old racing tricks" - upside down front shocks
Message-ID: <207321.50771.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

hi everyone
i'm ready to install new shocks in the front.  i heard someone once say that installing the front shocks upside-down was an old racing trick.  is it?  why?
thanks in advance
steve
675MIZU

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Wed Apr 15 23:49:55 2009
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 22:49:55 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] "old racing tricks" - upside down front shocks
In-Reply-To: <207321.50771.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <207321.50771.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001601c9be57$2cb79230$8626b690$@net>

A very small reduction in unsprung weight, but not all shocks are designed
such that they can be mounted upside-down.

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of steven boortz
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:58 PM
To: roadsters
Subject: [Roadsters] "old racing tricks" - upside down front shocks

hi everyone
i'm ready to install new shocks in the front.  i heard someone once say that
installing the front shocks upside-down was an old racing trick.  is it?
why?
thanks in advance
steve
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From tputland at charter.net  Thu Apr 16 05:34:21 2009
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 4:34:21 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] upside down front shocks--is it worth it?
In-Reply-To: <001601c9be57$2cb79230$8626b690$@net>
Message-ID: <20090416073421.B6L47.992024.root@mp11>

Is there and easy way to determine if the new shocks can be mounted upside down? Or for a car that most likely will never be autocrossed (at least not in the forseeable future), is it even worth it to do this with the shocks?

Thanks

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net> wrote: 

=============
A very small reduction in unsprung weight, but not all shocks are designed
such that they can be mounted upside-down.

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of steven boortz
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:58 PM
To: roadsters
Subject: [Roadsters] "old racing tricks" - upside down front shocks

hi everyone
i'm ready to install new shocks in the front.  i heard someone once say that
installing the front shocks upside-down was an old racing trick.  is it?
why?
thanks in advance
steve
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Thu Apr 16 10:19:17 2009
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 09:19:17 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] upside down front shocks--is it worth it?
In-Reply-To: <20090416073421.B6L47.992024.root@mp11>
References: <001601c9be57$2cb79230$8626b690$@net>
	<20090416073421.B6L47.992024.root@mp11>
Message-ID: <001701c9beaf$17eca9f0$47c5fdd0$@net>

I doubt if it is worth it, even for an autocrosser. The basic idea is that,
with the standard shock and mounting, the main body of the shock (which
constitutes most of the weight of the shock) is attached to the A-arm. This
makes it mostly unsprung weight, reduced almost 50% by the motion ratio of the
A-arm. Mounting it upside down makes that weight sprung weight.

The front shocks on a roadster could be easily reversed since the mounting is
the same at both ends. The rears are another matter. The bottom mount is a
stud, but the top mount is a ring. So you'd have to modify both mounts on the
frame and spring shock mount plate to do it. If you're going to go that far,
why not just get a set of Penske remote-reservoir shocks?

I think the only way to know if a shock can be mounted upside down is to
contact the manufacturer.

A shock only weighs a couple of pounds. You can get more improvement by
choosing lighter wheels, since the wheel is 100% unsprung weight.

Gordon Glasgow
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim [mailto:tputland at charter.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:34 AM
To: 'steven boortz'; Gordon Glasgow; 'roadsters'
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] upside down front shocks--is it worth it?

Is there and easy way to determine if the new shocks can be mounted upside
down? Or for a car that most likely will never be autocrossed (at least not in
the forseeable future), is it even worth it to do this with the shocks?

Thanks

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net> wrote:

=============
A very small reduction in unsprung weight, but not all shocks are designed
such that they can be mounted upside-down.

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of steven boortz
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:58 PM
To: roadsters
Subject: [Roadsters] "old racing tricks" - upside down front shocks

hi everyone
i'm ready to install new shocks in the front.  i heard someone once say that
installing the front shocks upside-down was an old racing trick.  is it?
why?
thanks in advance
steve
675MIZU
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From pat at hornesystemstx.com  Thu Apr 16 10:39:45 2009
From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:39:45 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] "old racing tricks" - upside down front shocks
In-Reply-To: <207321.50771.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <207321.50771.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <49E75F51.6030106@hornesystemstx.com>

An easy way to determine if the shock can be installed upside down is to 
put the bottom end of the shock against the floor or bench and compress 
it a few times. This will be any air out of the cylinder. When you can 
push and pull the shock and not feel any discontinuity in its movement 
you are ready to try the same thing with the shock upside down. If you 
don't detect any difference in movement then it shouldn't be a problem 
to mount it upside down, but as others have said, check with the 
manufacture, there may be something that will cause trouble later.

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake steven boortz, On 4/15/2009 11:58 PM:
> hi everyone
> i'm ready to install new shocks in the front.  i heard someone once say that installing the front shocks upside-down was an old racing trick.  is it?  why?
> thanks in advance
> steve
> 675MIZU
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From jsk977 at optonline.net  Thu Apr 16 11:20:30 2009
From: jsk977 at optonline.net (Jerry Krakauer)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:20:30 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] upside down front shocks--is it worth it?
References: <001601c9be57$2cb79230$8626b690$@net>
	<20090416073421.B6L47.992024.root@mp11>
	<001701c9beaf$17eca9f0$47c5fdd0$@net>
Message-ID: <697FB33625A5408D90973E9DBE6C6872@HP1450>

Not good for handling. The jounce/rebound ratio for shocks is usually not 
close to 50/50 thus installing upside down would reverse the ratio. The only 
time I've heard of people doing this in the past was for drag cars in order 
to help weight transfer to the rear by allowing the front end to quickly 
move upward on acceleration. That's usually done now with specialized front 
drag shocks that have very weak rebound.


Jerry Krakauer
SRL311 00099
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
To: "'Tim'" <tputland at charter.net>; "'steven boortz'" 
<vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com>; "'roadsters'" 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] upside down front shocks--is it worth it?


>I doubt if it is worth it, even for an autocrosser. The basic idea is that,
> with the standard shock and mounting, the main body of the shock (which
> constitutes most of the weight of the shock) is attached to the A-arm. 
> This
> makes it mostly unsprung weight, reduced almost 50% by the motion ratio of 
> the
> A-arm. Mounting it upside down makes that weight sprung weight.
>
> The front shocks on a roadster could be easily reversed since the mounting 
> is
> the same at both ends. The rears are another matter. The bottom mount is a
> stud, but the top mount is a ring. So you'd have to modify both mounts on 
> the
> frame and spring shock mount plate to do it. If you're going to go that 
> far,
> why not just get a set of Penske remote-reservoir shocks?
>
> I think the only way to know if a shock can be mounted upside down is to
> contact the manufacturer.
>
> A shock only weighs a couple of pounds. You can get more improvement by
> choosing lighter wheels, since the wheel is 100% unsprung weight.
>
> Gordon Glasgow

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Thu Apr 16 11:50:07 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:50:07 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67
In-Reply-To: <E33CB105E2D14012A75759AD3143278A@xp>
References: <562773.63164.qm@web32008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<001701c9bbed$aa4b13a0$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local>
	<E33CB105E2D14012A75759AD3143278A@xp>
Message-ID: <49E76FCF.9080605@socal.rr.com>

An electric distributor runs off of one wire that's attached to the 
coil.  It's pretty simple. 

I'm not sure if the hook up on the distributor for the old manual tach 
would need to be "capped" or anything.  Someone else here might know that...

Eddie

Pete Peters wrote:
> Don't remember the specifics, but do remember it discussed many times on the
> 311s.org forums.
>
> Pete 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oliver
> Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:10 PM
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67
>
> what's involved in switching out the existing speedo and tach to an
> aftermarket replacement unit?
>
> the new ones are all electric, right?  so there has to be some kind of
> converter?
>
> thanks!
>
> btw i am already in the process of installing aftermarket gages for
> everything else.  i had thought i would retain the speedo and tach but now
> i'm exploring the possibility of replacing those too. 
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Thu Apr 16 12:02:27 2009
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:02:27 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] upside down front shocks--is it worth it?
In-Reply-To: <697FB33625A5408D90973E9DBE6C6872@HP1450>
References: <001601c9be57$2cb79230$8626b690$@net>
	<20090416073421.B6L47.992024.root@mp11>
	<001701c9beaf$17eca9f0$47c5fdd0$@net>
	<697FB33625A5408D90973E9DBE6C6872@HP1450>
Message-ID: <002901c9bebd$8160a220$8421e660$@net>

I don't understand this. Jounce is compression, rebound is extension. The
shock will be compressing under the same circumstances whether it is
right-side up or upside down.

The drag racers use (or at least used to use) what were called 90/10 shocks,
which had only 10 percent resistance on extension and 90 percent on
compression. They were also called "up-lock" shocks. I think they first
appeared in the early 1960's.

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Krakauer [mailto:jsk977 at optonline.net] 
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:21 AM
To: Gordon Glasgow; 'Tim'; 'steven boortz'; 'roadsters'
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] upside down front shocks--is it worth it?

Not good for handling. The jounce/rebound ratio for shocks is usually not 
close to 50/50 thus installing upside down would reverse the ratio. The only

time I've heard of people doing this in the past was for drag cars in order 
to help weight transfer to the rear by allowing the front end to quickly 
move upward on acceleration. That's usually done now with specialized front 
drag shocks that have very weak rebound.


Jerry Krakauer
SRL311 00099
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
To: "'Tim'" <tputland at charter.net>; "'steven boortz'" 
<vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com>; "'roadsters'" 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] upside down front shocks--is it worth it?


>I doubt if it is worth it, even for an autocrosser. The basic idea is that,
> with the standard shock and mounting, the main body of the shock (which
> constitutes most of the weight of the shock) is attached to the A-arm. 
> This
> makes it mostly unsprung weight, reduced almost 50% by the motion ratio of

> the
> A-arm. Mounting it upside down makes that weight sprung weight.
>
> The front shocks on a roadster could be easily reversed since the mounting

> is
> the same at both ends. The rears are another matter. The bottom mount is a
> stud, but the top mount is a ring. So you'd have to modify both mounts on 
> the
> frame and spring shock mount plate to do it. If you're going to go that 
> far,
> why not just get a set of Penske remote-reservoir shocks?
>
> I think the only way to know if a shock can be mounted upside down is to
> contact the manufacturer.
>
> A shock only weighs a couple of pounds. You can get more improvement by
> choosing lighter wheels, since the wheel is 100% unsprung weight.
>
> Gordon Glasgow

From Walter.Peterson at cox.net  Thu Apr 16 13:15:54 2009
From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter Peterson)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:15:54 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] upside down front shocks--is it worth it?
In-Reply-To: <002901c9bebd$8160a220$8421e660$@net>
References: <001601c9be57$2cb79230$8626b690$@net>
	<20090416073421.B6L47.992024.root@mp11>
	<001701c9beaf$17eca9f0$47c5fdd0$@net>
	<697FB33625A5408D90973E9DBE6C6872@HP1450>
	<002901c9bebd$8160a220$8421e660$@net>
Message-ID: <000c01c9bec7$c3e824b0$4bb86e10$@Peterson@cox.net>

I always drive while in an Inverted state, so the shocks work just fine.  :)

Walt Peterson

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Glasgow
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:02 AM
To: 'Jerry Krakauer'; 'Tim'; 'steven boortz'; 'roadsters'
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] upside down front shocks--is it worth it?

I don't understand this. Jounce is compression, rebound is extension. The
shock will be compressing under the same circumstances whether it is
right-side up or upside down.

The drag racers use (or at least used to use) what were called 90/10 shocks,
which had only 10 percent resistance on extension and 90 percent on
compression. They were also called "up-lock" shocks. I think they first
appeared in the early 1960's.

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Krakauer [mailto:jsk977 at optonline.net] 
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:21 AM
To: Gordon Glasgow; 'Tim'; 'steven boortz'; 'roadsters'
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] upside down front shocks--is it worth it?

Not good for handling. The jounce/rebound ratio for shocks is usually not 
close to 50/50 thus installing upside down would reverse the ratio. The only

time I've heard of people doing this in the past was for drag cars in order 
to help weight transfer to the rear by allowing the front end to quickly 
move upward on acceleration. That's usually done now with specialized front 
drag shocks that have very weak rebound.


Jerry Krakauer
SRL311 00099
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
To: "'Tim'" <tputland at charter.net>; "'steven boortz'" 
<vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com>; "'roadsters'" 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] upside down front shocks--is it worth it?


>I doubt if it is worth it, even for an autocrosser. The basic idea is that,
> with the standard shock and mounting, the main body of the shock (which
> constitutes most of the weight of the shock) is attached to the A-arm. 
> This
> makes it mostly unsprung weight, reduced almost 50% by the motion ratio of

> the
> A-arm. Mounting it upside down makes that weight sprung weight.
>
> The front shocks on a roadster could be easily reversed since the mounting

> is
> the same at both ends. The rears are another matter. The bottom mount is a
> stud, but the top mount is a ring. So you'd have to modify both mounts on 
> the
> frame and spring shock mount plate to do it. If you're going to go that 
> far,
> why not just get a set of Penske remote-reservoir shocks?
>
> I think the only way to know if a shock can be mounted upside down is to
> contact the manufacturer.
>
> A shock only weighs a couple of pounds. You can get more improvement by
> choosing lighter wheels, since the wheel is 100% unsprung weight.
>
> Gordon Glasgow
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From aultgc at att.net  Thu Apr 16 14:37:14 2009
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:37:14 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67
References: <562773.63164.qm@web32008.mail.mud.yahoo.com><001701c9bbed$aa4b13a0$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local><E33CB105E2D14012A75759AD3143278A@xp>
	<49E76FCF.9080605@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <8EC8611F2C284DCAB6B55419764F8EDD@gaxp1>

Yes, the tach cable take-off would need to be capped.  With the cable in 
place, there is a seal in the connection which prevents (usually) oil from 
the distributor lubrication system from leaking into or from the cable.

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
To: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
Cc: "'Datsun Roadster List'" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67


> An electric distributor runs off of one wire that's attached to the coil. 
> It's pretty simple.
> I'm not sure if the hook up on the distributor for the old manual tach 
> would need to be "capped" or anything.  Someone else here might know 
> that...
>
> Eddie
>
> Pete Peters wrote:
>> Don't remember the specifics, but do remember it discussed many times on 
>> the
>> 311s.org forums.
>>
>> Pete
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
>> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oliver
>> Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:10 PM
>> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>> Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67
>>
>> what's involved in switching out the existing speedo and tach to an
>> aftermarket replacement unit?
>>
>> the new ones are all electric, right?  so there has to be some kind of
>> converter?
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> btw i am already in the process of installing aftermarket gages for
>> everything else.  i had thought i would retain the speedo and tach but 
>> now
>> i'm exploring the possibility of replacing those too. Datsun-roadsters 
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From vulforge at aol.com  Thu Apr 16 15:40:23 2009
From: vulforge at aol.com (vulforge at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:40:23 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Bits
Message-ID: <8CB8CF315401F83-90-1EDF@webmail-dh43.sysops.aol.com>

I posted a couple of weeks ago looking for a bumper overider, back up light and top latch for a early 67.? One of the members replied that he thought he had all of them.? I wanted to follow up, but?apparently deleted the email.? Please contact me!?

We now return you to your regularly scheduled program...


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Kansas City, MO
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From tputland at charter.net  Thu Apr 16 15:46:47 2009
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:46:47 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Bits
In-Reply-To: <8CB8CF315401F83-90-1EDF@webmail-dh43.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <20090416174647.LT5S6.1031217.root@mp06>

Contact Craig Halstead if all else fails.


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- vulforge at aol.com wrote: 

=============
I posted a couple of weeks ago looking for a bumper overider, back up light and top latch for a early 67.? One of the members replied that he thought he had all of them.? I wanted to follow up, but?apparently deleted the email.? Please contact me!?

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Kansas City, MO
64111

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From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Thu Apr 16 16:29:15 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:29:15 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67
In-Reply-To: <8EC8611F2C284DCAB6B55419764F8EDD@gaxp1>
References: <562773.63164.qm@web32008.mail.mud.yahoo.com><001701c9bbed$aa4b13a0$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local><E33CB105E2D14012A75759AD3143278A@xp>
	<49E76FCF.9080605@socal.rr.com>
	<8EC8611F2C284DCAB6B55419764F8EDD@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <49E7B13B.8080309@socal.rr.com>

Ok, that's an important tip... which leads to my next question:

Where does one get a cap for that?  Has anyone made them? 

Thanks.

Eddie

Gary and Cindy Ault wrote:
> Yes, the tach cable take-off would need to be capped.  With the cable 
> in place, there is a seal in the connection which prevents (usually) 
> oil from the distributor lubrication system from leaking into or from 
> the cable.
>
> Gary
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
> To: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
> Cc: "'Datsun Roadster List'" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67
>
>
>> An electric distributor runs off of one wire that's attached to the 
>> coil. It's pretty simple.
>> I'm not sure if the hook up on the distributor for the old manual 
>> tach would need to be "capped" or anything.  Someone else here might 
>> know that...
>>
>> Eddie
>>
>> Pete Peters wrote:
>>> Don't remember the specifics, but do remember it discussed many 
>>> times on the
>>> 311s.org forums.
>>>
>>> Pete
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
>>> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oliver
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:10 PM
>>> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>>> Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67
>>>
>>> what's involved in switching out the existing speedo and tach to an
>>> aftermarket replacement unit?
>>>
>>> the new ones are all electric, right?  so there has to be some kind of
>>> converter?
>>>
>>> thanks!
>>>
>>> btw i am already in the process of installing aftermarket gages for
>>> everything else.  i had thought i would retain the speedo and tach 
>>> but now
>>> i'm exploring the possibility of replacing those too. 
>>> Datsun-roadsters mailing list
>>>
>>> http://www.team.net/archive
>>>
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From tminerpcav at aol.com  Thu Apr 16 17:46:22 2009
From: tminerpcav at aol.com (tminerpcav at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:46:22 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Bits
In-Reply-To: <20090416174647.LT5S6.1031217.root@mp06>
Message-ID: <8CB8D04AE99825F-79C-2A8E@webmail-md15.sysops.aol.com>

I'm sure Mike Young has them as well.


-----Original Message-----
From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
To: vulforge at aol.com; datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 2:46 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bits



Contact Craig Halstead if all else fails.


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- vulforge at aol.com wrote: 

=============
I posted a couple of weeks ago looking for a bumper overider, back up light and 
top latch for a early 67.? One of the members replied that he thought he had all 
of them.? I wanted to follow up, but?apparently deleted the email.? Please 
contact me!?

We now return you to your regularly scheduled program...


Russell Criswell
Vulcan's Forge
3936 Broadway
Kansas City, MO
64111

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From tputland at charter.net  Thu Apr 16 19:13:17 2009
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:13:17 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095
Message-ID: <20090416211317.KKEWI.1033779.root@mp15>

Any one else checked the "starting" bid prices this seller wants for the parts he is taking ofa 70 1600?

$40 for this one alone. A part that can be bought NOS for much less.

I really don't know how to react to this person. 

I guess the last line of my signature is really apropos right now.

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu Apr 16 19:27:19 2009
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:27:19 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095
In-Reply-To: <20090416211317.KKEWI.1033779.root@mp15>
References: <20090416211317.KKEWI.1033779.root@mp15>
Message-ID: <FDB4D1913781442DA50F5921260B8F52@xp>

Simple...you don't buy. Either the seller is clueless or hoping the buyer
is. The 510 guys routinely point out eBay selling prices of hundreds of
dollars for a $30 part still in the system. The fact is that there are many
Datsun owners out there completely unaware of the internet and supporting
clubs.

Pete 

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:13 PM
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095

Any one else checked the "starting" bid prices this seller wants for the
parts he is taking ofa 70 1600?

$40 for this one alone. A part that can be bought NOS for much less.

I really don't know how to react to this person. 

I guess the last line of my signature is really apropos right now.

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL

From dbji at whidbey.net  Thu Apr 16 19:41:48 2009
From: dbji at whidbey.net (Don Boyd)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:41:48 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] upside down shocks
Message-ID: <ECE4BE4924594D429AD4E8F27A73E9BC@work>

The shock don't flip jounce/rebound ratios when they are upside down. They may
do several other unpleasant things however. The only shocks that can be
successfully "flipped" are gas-monotube designs. Bilstien, Penske , white
power- virtually all the motorcycle high performance units. Almost all the
high performance units we can get for our roadsters won't work upside down
because they have a second tube around the damping chamber tube that acts as a
reservoir for the oil. When you flip it over, the oil runs down to the
"bottom", away from the oil replenishing valve/hole. And then there is no
damping at all. Konis are built this way I'm pretty sure.
    That said, unless your building the national championship car for the scca
runoffs, and you need that .1 second that flipping the shocks provide, and
your willing to spend 3 grand for Penske to put a set together, there are MUCH
more cost effective ways to gain an edge. Most folks don't realize how much
wheels vary in weight, and 3 grand spent on "real" mags would give much
greater returns. Course, they aren't street legal, but................

From dbji at whidbey.net  Thu Apr 16 20:16:19 2009
From: dbji at whidbey.net (Don Boyd)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:16:19 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] upside down shocks
Message-ID: <7A61ACD87EE14FB49AB44AF83A3453CD@work>

A little more. Most street type performance shocks will provide about twice
the damping on rebound as jounce. or at least the shock dyno sheets I get from
koni read that way to me. The real gains in shocks are when you can
independently vary jounce, rebound, and high an low speed damping. You can
also get in LOTS of trouble.
    When I was a lad, I was a pretty good motorcycle racer. I competed in the
northwest desert racing series, and in 1985 bought a shiny new KTM 495 to ride
that year.  The White Power upside down rear shock that came with it was
adjustable for rebound and compression, but in "jouncing" the back end of the
bike by sharply pushing on the seat, I couldn't tell between minimum and
maximum settings. I could somewhat tell on compression, but rebound felt all
the same -- so I thought. So I set the compression on "1" and the rebound on
"1".  And off to the races! The bike was great, I was close to the front by
the "bomb", but during the race it would headshake terribly sometimes. The
handlebars would just become a blur. At 80 or 90 mph, that's going to get your
attention fast. This first race was a team race , so when my teammate was out
on the course, I went over to the dealer who was sponsoring the regional
champion. He had also just bought the same KTM 495, so I explained my problem
and ask for help. He said they just left it at stock settings. Compression "1"
rebound "3" . (out of 10 or 12 steps as I recall) You guessed it. I changed to
rebound "3". Keep in mind this was the REAR shock, the headshake never
happened again. That was an "ahh so grasshopper" revelation. Shock settings do
matter, and rear affects front and vice versa. And you can't tell squat from
the bench. Racing conditions are the only thing that will bring out your
stupid choices! :-)
    Gordon is right about wheels. Spend $$ on them. A NOS set of revolution
real magnesium wheels would be top of my list. One thing boys and girls.  If
you run across a set of old mags, EVEN IF THEY ARE FREE, DON'T DON'T USE THEM.
Magnesium corrodes in such a way as to be visually ok, but structurally
rotten. X-ray is the only way to tell. I not an expert on the hows and whys,
but I do know given the environment wheels live in that old "real" mags can't
be used. I just hang them on the wall to hold air and water hoses.

From stevenehlers at charter.net  Thu Apr 16 20:56:21 2009
From: stevenehlers at charter.net (Steve Ehlers)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:56:21 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67
Message-ID: <49E7EFD5.3070606@charter.net>

Hey Eddie ,
 Gary is incorrect in stating that the speedo drive pinion in the 
Distributor stand needs or has to be plugged .The drive pinion also has 
a seal
 that seals it in the stand . I assume most Roadster owners don't even 
know that it exists  .This is the Real reason for "Oil Creep " in the Tach
cable that ends up on your clothes ,when it leaks out of the Tach in the 
car (Same problem with the Speedo Head too) . The Electric tach and
speedo gives you the benefit of no more ruined clothes and cables to buy 
:-) . With a Good seal ,it shouldn't be a real problem .

 The speedo and tach cable seals are secondary to the pinion seals .Both 
seals are the same part number . You could however try to plug the Stand 
with who knows what sized plug or cap if you can even find something to 
fit .You could make it totally irreversible by welding up the pinion 
carrier and removing the pinion or making a cap device by TIG  welding  
the aluminum end fitting of a tach cable to cap it .
Steve
www.risingsunperformance.com

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Thu Apr 16 20:53:08 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:53:08 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095
In-Reply-To: <FDB4D1913781442DA50F5921260B8F52@xp>
References: <20090416211317.KKEWI.1033779.root@mp15>
	<FDB4D1913781442DA50F5921260B8F52@xp>
Message-ID: <49E7EF14.30609@socal.rr.com>

It's also possible the SELLER doesn't know what the parts are worth.  
They may have bought the car, found that some prices were really high, 
and decided to part the car out figuring everything on these cars is high...

Eddie

Pete Peters wrote:
> Simple...you don't buy. Either the seller is clueless or hoping the buyer
> is. The 510 guys routinely point out eBay selling prices of hundreds of
> dollars for a $30 part still in the system. The fact is that there are many
> Datsun owners out there completely unaware of the internet and supporting
> clubs.
>
> Pete 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:13 PM
> To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095
>
> Any one else checked the "starting" bid prices this seller wants for the
> parts he is taking ofa 70 1600?
>
> $40 for this one alone. A part that can be bought NOS for much less.
>
> I really don't know how to react to this person. 
>
> I guess the last line of my signature is really apropos right now.
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Thu Apr 16 20:53:47 2009
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:53:47 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095
In-Reply-To: <FDB4D1913781442DA50F5921260B8F52@xp>
References: <20090416211317.KKEWI.1033779.root@mp15>
	<FDB4D1913781442DA50F5921260B8F52@xp>
Message-ID: <004a01c9bf07$bb8b13a0$32a13ae0$@net>

Stupidity may not always be painful, but it can sure be expensive.

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:27 PM
To: 'Datsun Roadster List'
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095

Simple...you don't buy. Either the seller is clueless or hoping the buyer
is. The 510 guys routinely point out eBay selling prices of hundreds of
dollars for a $30 part still in the system. The fact is that there are many
Datsun owners out there completely unaware of the internet and supporting
clubs.

Pete 

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:13 PM
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095

Any one else checked the "starting" bid prices this seller wants for the
parts he is taking ofa 70 1600?

$40 for this one alone. A part that can be bought NOS for much less.

I really don't know how to react to this person. 

I guess the last line of my signature is really apropos right now.

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Datsun-roadsters mailing list

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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Thu Apr 16 21:20:13 2009
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:20:13 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67
In-Reply-To: <49E7EFD5.3070606@charter.net>
References: <49E7EFD5.3070606@charter.net>
Message-ID: <000901c9bf0b$6cdabdb0$46903910$@net>

Good point. Still, since the drive sticks out through the seal, I'd feel
better covering something that is going to be spinning at up to 3-4,000 rpm
on occasion. The crevices look like a good dirt-catcher.

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Ehlers
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:56 PM
To: eddietude at socal.rr.com
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67

Hey Eddie ,
 Gary is incorrect in stating that the speedo drive pinion in the 
Distributor stand needs or has to be plugged .The drive pinion also has 
a seal
 that seals it in the stand . I assume most Roadster owners don't even 
know that it exists  .This is the Real reason for "Oil Creep " in the Tach
cable that ends up on your clothes ,when it leaks out of the Tach in the 
car (Same problem with the Speedo Head too) . The Electric tach and
speedo gives you the benefit of no more ruined clothes and cables to buy 
:-) . With a Good seal ,it shouldn't be a real problem .

 The speedo and tach cable seals are secondary to the pinion seals .Both 
seals are the same part number . You could however try to plug the Stand 
with who knows what sized plug or cap if you can even find something to 
fit .You could make it totally irreversible by welding up the pinion 
carrier and removing the pinion or making a cap device by TIG  welding  
the aluminum end fitting of a tach cable to cap it .
Steve
www.risingsunperformance.com
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From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Thu Apr 16 21:21:30 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:21:30 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67
In-Reply-To: <49E7EFD5.3070606@charter.net>
References: <49E7EFD5.3070606@charter.net>
Message-ID: <49E7F5BA.5040802@socal.rr.com>

Steve,

So in other words, I DON'T have to do anything?  Just leave the spot 
where the cable attaches off and I should be ok? 

That would be nice!  (But I want to double check on that...)

Eddie

Steve Ehlers wrote:
> Hey Eddie ,
> Gary is incorrect in stating that the speedo drive pinion in the 
> Distributor stand needs or has to be plugged .The drive pinion also 
> has a seal
> that seals it in the stand . I assume most Roadster owners don't even 
> know that it exists  .This is the Real reason for "Oil Creep " in the 
> Tach
> cable that ends up on your clothes ,when it leaks out of the Tach in 
> the car (Same problem with the Speedo Head too) . The Electric tach and
> speedo gives you the benefit of no more ruined clothes and cables to 
> buy :-) . With a Good seal ,it shouldn't be a real problem .
>
> The speedo and tach cable seals are secondary to the pinion seals 
> .Both seals are the same part number . You could however try to plug 
> the Stand with who knows what sized plug or cap if you can even find 
> something to fit .You could make it totally irreversible by welding up 
> the pinion carrier and removing the pinion or making a cap device by 
> TIG  welding  the aluminum end fitting of a tach cable to cap it .
> Steve
> www.risingsunperformance.com

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Thu Apr 16 21:23:41 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:23:41 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67
In-Reply-To: <000901c9bf0b$6cdabdb0$46903910$@net>
References: <49E7EFD5.3070606@charter.net>
	<000901c9bf0b$6cdabdb0$46903910$@net>
Message-ID: <49E7F63D.50707@socal.rr.com>

Or accidentally sticking a finger near it while working on the running 
car... 

That would fall in the "oops, this sucks" category! 

Eddie

Gordon Glasgow wrote:
> Good point. Still, since the drive sticks out through the seal, I'd feel
> better covering something that is going to be spinning at up to 3-4,000 rpm
> on occasion. The crevices look like a good dirt-catcher.
>
> Gordon Glasgow
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Ehlers
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:56 PM
> To: eddietude at socal.rr.com
> Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67
>
> Hey Eddie ,
>  Gary is incorrect in stating that the speedo drive pinion in the 
> Distributor stand needs or has to be plugged .The drive pinion also has 
> a seal
>  that seals it in the stand . I assume most Roadster owners don't even 
> know that it exists  .This is the Real reason for "Oil Creep " in the Tach
> cable that ends up on your clothes ,when it leaks out of the Tach in the 
> car (Same problem with the Speedo Head too) . The Electric tach and
> speedo gives you the benefit of no more ruined clothes and cables to buy 
> :-) . With a Good seal ,it shouldn't be a real problem .
>
>  The speedo and tach cable seals are secondary to the pinion seals .Both 
> seals are the same part number . You could however try to plug the Stand 
> with who knows what sized plug or cap if you can even find something to 
> fit .You could make it totally irreversible by welding up the pinion 
> carrier and removing the pinion or making a cap device by TIG  welding  
> the aluminum end fitting of a tach cable to cap it .
> Steve
> www.risingsunperformance.com
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From jsk977 at optonline.net  Thu Apr 16 21:29:23 2009
From: jsk977 at optonline.net (Jerry Krakauer)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:29:23 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] upside down shocks
References: <ECE4BE4924594D429AD4E8F27A73E9BC@work>
Message-ID: <CA0735AAFD9D4E839C4874FC0E294EBD@HP1450>

You guys are right, just another senior moment. You also may have ruined my 
day by letting me know that my 40 year old 'real mag' Minilites may not be 
any good. Next you'll be telling me that the 35 year old Goodyear slicks 
that are mounted on them aren't any good either!

Jerry Krakauer
SRL311 00099

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don Boyd" <dbji at whidbey.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] upside down shocks


> The shock don't flip jounce/rebound ratios when they are upside down. They 
> may
> do several other unpleasant things however. The only shocks that can be
> successfully "flipped" are gas-monotube designs. Bilstien, Penske , white
> power- virtually all the motorcycle high performance units. Almost all the
> high performance units we can get for our roadsters won't work upside down
> because they have a second tube around the damping chamber tube that acts 
> as a
> reservoir for the oil. When you flip it over, the oil runs down to the
> "bottom", away from the oil replenishing valve/hole. And then there is no
> damping at all. Konis are built this way I'm pretty sure.
>    That said, unless your building the national championship car for the 
> scca
> runoffs, and you need that .1 second that flipping the shocks provide, and
> your willing to spend 3 grand for Penske to put a set together, there are 
> MUCH
> more cost effective ways to gain an edge. Most folks don't realize how 
> much
> wheels vary in weight, and 3 grand spent on "real" mags would give much
> greater returns. Course, they aren't street legal, but................

From stevenehlers at charter.net  Thu Apr 16 21:54:08 2009
From: stevenehlers at charter.net (Steve Ehlers)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:54:08 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67
In-Reply-To: <000901c9bf0b$6cdabdb0$46903910$@net>
References: <49E7EFD5.3070606@charter.net>
	<000901c9bf0b$6cdabdb0$46903910$@net>
Message-ID: <49E7FD60.5070304@charter.net>

 Gordon ,
 I assume ,with Most of the Questions and comments I have seen on this 
forum for years ,for the most part  ,
the owners of  our Roadsters are Hobbyists and Armature Mechanics . Just 
Leaving the cable off falls into that category .

If this car was at my shop ,and the customer wanted a solution ,I would 
TIG weld the pinion carrier into a plug  . I would be
on to the next car before you got to any source  for any way to cap or 
plug it .
BTW ,Good luck finding any Metric caps or plugs at your local Home Depot 
or O'Riley parts store . You might get luckey and find
a US standard plug and crossthread that in for a nice leak ;-) .
Good Luck ,
Steve
www.risingsunperformance.com


Gordon Glasgow wrote:

>Good point. Still, since the drive sticks out through the seal, I'd feel
>better covering something that is going to be spinning at up to 3-4,000 rpm
>on occasion. The crevices look like a good dirt-catcher.
>
>Gordon Glasgow

From stevenehlers at charter.net  Thu Apr 16 22:02:14 2009
From: stevenehlers at charter.net (Steve Ehlers)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:02:14 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67]
Message-ID: <49E7FF46.5060606@charter.net>

Eddie ,

This is turning very slow when Idling and I doubt you will be just 
sticking your finger on it while racing the engine at the same time .
Common sense dictates ,but I would doubt that if you touched it ,you 
would even get an "Oh that hurt " .
Steve

Eddie wrote:

> Or accidentally sticking a finger near it while working on the running 
> car...
> That would fall in the "oops, this sucks" category!
> Eddie

From aultgc at att.net  Thu Apr 16 22:14:48 2009
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:14:48 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095
References: <20090416211317.KKEWI.1033779.root@mp15>
Message-ID: <3A4DB422DC9E4EC5861E4777BE21110C@gaxp1>

Tim,

No need to react.  He has no clue what it is worth and is just fishing. 
Note that all (or most) "Or Best Offer").  For my part, since he's so far 
off on the value, I wouldn't trust the condition.

Gary
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>
To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 8:13 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095


> Any one else checked the "starting" bid prices this seller wants for the 
> parts he is taking ofa 70 1600?
>
> $40 for this one alone. A part that can be bought NOS for much less.
>
> I really don't know how to react to this person.
>
> I guess the last line of my signature is really apropos right now.
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
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From aultgc at att.net  Thu Apr 16 22:21:12 2009
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:21:12 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67
References: <49E7EFD5.3070606@charter.net>
Message-ID: <A7F0CBC743BF4DABAFBAA54AEFF64AC6@gaxp1>

Eddie,

Once upon a time, I had an oil leak at the distributor stand where the 
tachometer (speedo drive pinion?) cable exits, which I traced to a tear in 
the seal in the end of the tach cable.  Replaced the seal, solved the 
problem.  Hasn't leaked since.

Do as you wish, but I'd cap it.

Gary
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Ehlers" <stevenehlers at charter.net>
To: <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
Cc: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67


> Hey Eddie ,
> Gary is incorrect in stating that the speedo drive pinion in the 
> Distributor stand needs or has to be plugged .The drive pinion also has a 
> seal
> that seals it in the stand . I assume most Roadster owners don't even know 
> that it exists  .This is the Real reason for "Oil Creep " in the Tach
> cable that ends up on your clothes ,when it leaks out of the Tach in the 
> car (Same problem with the Speedo Head too) . The Electric tach and
> speedo gives you the benefit of no more ruined clothes and cables to buy 
> :-) . With a Good seal ,it shouldn't be a real problem .
>
> The speedo and tach cable seals are secondary to the pinion seals .Both 
> seals are the same part number . You could however try to plug the Stand 
> with who knows what sized plug or cap if you can even find something to 
> fit .You could make it totally irreversible by welding up the pinion 
> carrier and removing the pinion or making a cap device by TIG  welding 
> the aluminum end fitting of a tach cable to cap it .
> Steve
> www.risingsunperformance.com
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From stevenehlers at charter.net  Thu Apr 16 22:55:24 2009
From: stevenehlers at charter.net (Steve Ehlers)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:55:24 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67
In-Reply-To: <A7F0CBC743BF4DABAFBAA54AEFF64AC6@gaxp1>
References: <49E7EFD5.3070606@charter.net>
	<A7F0CBC743BF4DABAFBAA54AEFF64AC6@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <49E80BBC.7040805@charter.net>

Gary ,
 You only took care of the secondary seal in the design . If the pinion 
seal was replaced ,you would have solved it at the root cause .
The  cable seals are just that . They are used to keep the cable and 
housing interior clean and uncontaminated .
Pinion seals are available as a new part .The Tach and Speedo cable 
housing seals are Not available as an individual replacement part from 
Nissan .
Remove your Tach cable end  from the stand and tell me there isn't any 
oil in the housing there now .

  So , Cap it with what ? 
Steve

Gary and Cindy Ault wrote:

> Eddie,
>
> Once upon a time, I had an oil leak at the distributor stand where the 
> tachometer (speedo drive pinion?) cable exits, which I traced to a 
> tear in the seal in the end of the tach cable.  Replaced the seal, 
> solved the problem.  Hasn't leaked since.
>
> Do as you wish, but I'd cap it.
>
> Gary

From mhknorr at msn.com  Thu Apr 16 23:27:57 2009
From: mhknorr at msn.com (Michael Knorr)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:27:57 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095
Message-ID: <COL106-W42296D72631985828935D7AA7B0@phx.gbl>

I've paid a lot of money for rather inexpensive SPL311 parts in my past,
usually on e-Bay or from a "friendly fellow enthusiast." Shopping can require
a long learning curve -- I think for both buyers and sellers -- so don't be
too quick to damn. Caveat emptor! We all need to be ware.



Regards, Michael Knorr

SPL311-03639

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Fri Apr 17 00:44:57 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:44:57 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67]
In-Reply-To: <49E7FF46.5060606@charter.net>
References: <49E7FF46.5060606@charter.net>
Message-ID: <49E82569.40906@socal.rr.com>

Hey,

Ummm, it was meant kind of as a joke...  But I think it got lost in 
translation... lol

Eddie

Steve Ehlers wrote:
> Eddie ,
>
> This is turning very slow when Idling and I doubt you will be just 
> sticking your finger on it while racing the engine at the same time .
> Common sense dictates ,but I would doubt that if you touched it ,you 
> would even get an "Oh that hurt " .
> Steve
>
> Eddie wrote:
>
>> Or accidentally sticking a finger near it while working on the 
>> running car...
>> That would fall in the "oops, this sucks" category!
>> Eddie
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From Walter.Peterson at cox.net  Fri Apr 17 01:35:43 2009
From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter Peterson)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 00:35:43 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67]
In-Reply-To: <49E7FF46.5060606@charter.net>
References: <49E7FF46.5060606@charter.net>
Message-ID: <000001c9bf2f$1d8a70b0$589f5210$@Peterson@cox.net>

I believe the tach and speedo cables are turning with a 10:1 speed
reduction.  So a motor reving at 10,000 RPM, would only be spinning the tach
cable at 1000 RPM's before the motor exploded!

Walt Peterson

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Ehlers
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:02 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67]

Eddie ,

This is turning very slow when Idling and I doubt you will be just 
sticking your finger on it while racing the engine at the same time .
Common sense dictates ,but I would doubt that if you touched it ,you 
would even get an "Oh that hurt " .
Steve

Eddie wrote:

> Or accidentally sticking a finger near it while working on the running 
> car...
> That would fall in the "oops, this sucks" category!
> Eddie
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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Fri Apr 17 04:09:18 2009
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 06:09:18 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095
In-Reply-To: <49E7EF14.30609@socal.rr.com>
References: <20090416211317.KKEWI.1033779.root@mp15>
	<FDB4D1913781442DA50F5921260B8F52@xp> <49E7EF14.30609@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <000001c9bf44$932d7140$b98853c0$@net>

  Just look at the sellers email address.  It explains why the price is so
far out of line.

musclecarbros at gmail.com

Paul
Ohio

-----Original Message-----
On Behalf Of Eddie

It's also possible the SELLER doesn't know what the parts are worth.  
They may have bought the car, found that some prices were really high, 
and decided to part the car out figuring everything on these cars is high...

Eddie

From andycost at embarqmail.com  Fri Apr 17 07:27:03 2009
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Embarq Customer)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:27:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67
In-Reply-To: <49E7FD60.5070304@charter.net>
Message-ID: <1552409617.2745561239974823949.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com>

I used the cap off an old cable.  A penny fits nicely inside to keep dirt and stuff out of the hole.

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Ehlers" <stevenehlers at charter.net>
To: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:54:08 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67

If this car was at my shop ,and the customer wanted a solution ,I would 
TIG weld the pinion carrier into a plug  . I would be
on to the next car before you got to any source  for any way to cap or 
plug it .

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Fri Apr 17 08:38:31 2009
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 07:38:31 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095
In-Reply-To: <COL106-W42296D72631985828935D7AA7B0@phx.gbl>
References: <COL106-W42296D72631985828935D7AA7B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <001f01c9bf6a$2eb719c0$8c254d40$@net>

I apologize if I offended anyone by my comment. I've probably become a
little too narrow in my fondness for these cars and the roadster community,
which has gained a well-deserved reputation for being polite, helpful and
responsive.

Going to eBay first is probably the natural inclination for people who
aren't aware of the community, or who may have no real interest in joining
it. Still, it seems odd that people wouldn't do a little bit more thorough
searching, considering how easy it is. I've encountered plenty of people who
have contacted me through my Web site asking about parts availability, who
haven't even taken the time to look at my Vendors page.

I know there are a lot of legitimate, honest people selling things on eBay,
and an auction format has its uses. But it is also an opportunity for
unscrupulous people to scam the unknowing or inexperienced.

Like they say, "Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of experience
comes from bad judgment."

I can offer myself as proof of that.

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Knorr
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:28 PM
To: Datsun Roadster Listserver
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095

I've paid a lot of money for rather inexpensive SPL311 parts in my past,
usually on e-Bay or from a "friendly fellow enthusiast." Shopping can
require
a long learning curve -- I think for both buyers and sellers -- so don't be
too quick to damn. Caveat emptor! We all need to be ware.



Regards, Michael Knorr

SPL311-03639

From printner at att.net  Fri Apr 17 08:49:19 2009
From: printner at att.net (Tim Waltz)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:49:19 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095
In-Reply-To: <FDB4D1913781442DA50F5921260B8F52@xp>
References: <20090416211317.KKEWI.1033779.root@mp15>
	<FDB4D1913781442DA50F5921260B8F52@xp>
Message-ID: <01ce01c9bf6b$bfe806b0$3fb81410$@net>

That's when it would be nice if fellow listers could chime up and let others
know about the realistic availability of such parts.  I know we don't all
have a great relationship with a Nissan parts guy to find out if everything
is still available, and at what prices.

So, what is this mysterious $30 part??  

Tim



-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:27 PM
To: 'Datsun Roadster List'
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095

Simple...you don't buy. Either the seller is clueless or hoping the buyer
is. The 510 guys routinely point out eBay selling prices of hundreds of
dollars for a $30 part still in the system. The fact is that there are many
Datsun owners out there completely unaware of the internet and supporting
clubs.

Pete 

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:13 PM
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095

Any one else checked the "starting" bid prices this seller wants for the
parts he is taking ofa 70 1600?

$40 for this one alone. A part that can be bought NOS for much less.

I really don't know how to react to this person. 

I guess the last line of my signature is really apropos right now.

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Fri Apr 17 09:05:18 2009
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:05:18 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095
In-Reply-To: <001f01c9bf6a$2eb719c0$8c254d40$@net>
References: <COL106-W42296D72631985828935D7AA7B0@phx.gbl>
	<001f01c9bf6a$2eb719c0$8c254d40$@net>
Message-ID: <8CB8D850DEADF14-75C-34ED@WEBMAIL-DY05.sysops.aol.com>

 Even within the Roadster community there are still many instances of people not knowing about the other list, the Parts Interchange section on 311 site, how to use the search feature here and on the other list, etc etc. Meaning that if you don't work for your discount you might not get it! I think this is why they said in school that reading was important......

Linda
68 1600


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
To: 'Michael Knorr' <mhknorr at msn.com>; 'Datsun Roadster Listserver' <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 7:38 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095










I apologize if I offended anyone by my comment. I've probably become a
little too narrow in my fondness for these cars and the roadster community,
which has gained a well-deserved reputation for being polite, helpful and
responsive.

Going to eBay first is probably the natural inclination for people who
aren't aware of the community, or who may have no real interest in joining
it. Still, it seems odd that people wouldn't do a little bit more thorough
searching, considering how easy it is. I've encountered plenty of people who
have contacted me through my Web site asking about parts availability, who
haven't even taken the time to look at my Vendors page.

I know there are a lot of legitimate, honest people selling things on eBay,
and an auction format has its uses. But it is also an opportunity for
unscrupulous people to scam the unknowing or inexperienced.

Like they say, "Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of experience
comes from bad judgment."

I can offer myself as proof of that.

Gordon Glasgow

From leehinger at verizon.net  Fri Apr 17 09:14:23 2009
From: leehinger at verizon.net (Lee Ehinger)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:14:23 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095
In-Reply-To: <8CB8D850DEADF14-75C-34ED@WEBMAIL-DY05.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <00B0CB8920F44206B1FF1676929F76CD@homeo9ltgh9dtd>

If you have the part number, Courtesy Nissan http://www.courtesyparts.com/
will take the time to see if it is available and does give internet
discounts.  I am amazed at the amount of parts still available from Nissan
for my 1970 240Z...  roadster parts are getting thin...
Lee Ehinger
Ft Wayne IN

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
ljordan704 at netscape.net
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 11:05 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095

 Even within the Roadster community there are still many instances of people
not knowing about the other list, the Parts Interchange section on 311 site,
how to use the search feature here and on the other list, etc etc. Meaning
that if you don't work for your discount you might not get it! I think this
is why they said in school that reading was important......

Linda
68 1600







-----Original Message-----
From: Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
To: 'Michael Knorr' <mhknorr at msn.com>; 'Datsun Roadster Listserver'
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 7:38 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095










I apologize if I offended anyone by my comment. I've probably become a
little too narrow in my fondness for these cars and the roadster community,
which has gained a well-deserved reputation for being polite, helpful and
responsive.

Going to eBay first is probably the natural inclination for people who
aren't aware of the community, or who may have no real interest in joining
it. Still, it seems odd that people wouldn't do a little bit more thorough
searching, considering how easy it is. I've encountered plenty of people who
have contacted me through my Web site asking about parts availability, who
haven't even taken the time to look at my Vendors page.

I know there are a lot of legitimate, honest people selling things on eBay,
and an auction format has its uses. But it is also an opportunity for
unscrupulous people to scam the unknowing or inexperienced.

Like they say, "Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of experience
comes from bad judgment."

I can offer myself as proof of that.

Gordon Glasgow

From chalsted at comcast.net  Fri Apr 17 09:20:07 2009
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:20:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095
In-Reply-To: <8CB8D850DEADF14-75C-34ED@WEBMAIL-DY05.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <1050312930.629491239981607371.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

I just sent the following to the seller: 



I can tell you're not very familiar with these cars and the price of parts. there's a roadster list with over 400 owners and your auctions have been eliciting a lot of comments- like that you don't have a clue...you can get a pair of the these lights NOS for about the price you're asking for one used, a lot of your roadster parts are priced WAY more than you will ever get for them- totally unrealistic expectations folks give away the front swaybars, the trim around the back of the cockpit is about a $15. piece.. window glass can be bought for $25 apiece or less... 1600 valve covers usually bring $20, as high as $80 if they've been polished... I wish you luck selling your stuff but mostly your roadster parts auctions are just good for laughs. 


somehow I don't think they're likely to post this on their auction(s) 



Craig 

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Fri Apr 17 09:26:32 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:26:32 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095
In-Reply-To: <1050312930.629491239981607371.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1050312930.629491239981607371.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <49E89FA8.708@socal.rr.com>

Craig,

On the same thought, try to find a body part from a vendor for under $100.

I've got an entire car I'd gladly part out, but everyone wants a fender 
for $50 when the vendors sell them for $200 or more.  It makes no sense 
for me to sell the parts in that case because if I ever need them, I'd 
be boned! 

I agree, some of his prices are stupid.  On the other hand, some I don't 
think are that far off.  His trunk lid was what?  $150?  Maybe a little 
high, but I've seen the vendors sell those for over $100...

Just my 2 cents, and it isn't even worth that much...

Eddie





chalsted at comcast.net wrote:
> I just sent the following to the seller: 
>
>
>
> I can tell you're not very familiar with these cars and the price of parts. there's a roadster list with over 400 owners and your auctions have been eliciting a lot of comments- like that you don't have a clue...you can get a pair of the these lights NOS for about the price you're asking for one used, a lot of your roadster parts are priced WAY more than you will ever get for them- totally unrealistic expectations folks give away the front swaybars, the trim around the back of the cockpit is about a $15. piece.. window glass can be bought for $25 apiece or less... 1600 valve covers usually bring $20, as high as $80 if they've been polished... I wish you luck selling your stuff but mostly your roadster parts auctions are just good for laughs. 
>
>
> somehow I don't think they're likely to post this on their auction(s) 
>
>
>
> Craig 
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From stl at adnc.com  Fri Apr 17 10:36:56 2009
From: stl at adnc.com (stl at adnc.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:36:56 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095
In-Reply-To: <COL106-W42296D72631985828935D7AA7B0@phx.gbl>
References: <COL106-W42296D72631985828935D7AA7B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20090417093656.pm23nfueoskso404@webmail.americanis.net>

Michael,

That was my experience exactly.  When I started the restoration I did
not have any savvy.  If the Nissan dealer didn't have a part I was
outta luck, or so I thought, before I got to know Les and Dennis and
learned about the list.

BTW my $140 fuse box purchased on Ebay from a "friendly fellow
enthusiast" is now displayed under glass to remind me that experience
does not come cheaply.  LOL.

Steve Landuyt

'69 2000
San Diego




Quoting Michael Knorr <mhknorr at msn.com>:

> I've paid a lot of money for rather inexpensive SPL311 parts in my past,
> usually on e-Bay or from a "friendly fellow enthusiast." Shopping can
require
> a long learning curve -- I think for both buyers and sellers -- so don't be
> too quick to damn. Caveat emptor! We all need to be ware.
>
>
>
> Regards, Michael Knorr
>
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From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Fri Apr 17 14:35:54 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:35:54 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Fluid Specs
Message-ID: <49E8E82A.50508@socal.rr.com>

Hi all,

I just went through the repair manual and could not find a spec list on 
the oils used in the vehicle.  They list the capacities, but not the 
type.  Brilliant.

Could someone reply to this and let me know what the proper oil specs 
are for the following items:

Engine oil

Trans Oil

Differential Oil

Thanks.

Eddie

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Fri Apr 17 15:21:07 2009
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:21:07 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Fluid Specs
In-Reply-To: <49E8E82A.50508@socal.rr.com>
References: <49E8E82A.50508@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <005701c9bfa2$6d2d43e0$4787cba0$@net>

Here's what I use:

Engine (fresh) - 5W-30
Trans - Redline MTL 
Diff - Redline 75W90 (used to use Kendall 80W90)

Gordon Glasgow

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Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 1:36 PM
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Fluid Specs

Hi all,

I just went through the repair manual and could not find a spec list on 
the oils used in the vehicle.  They list the capacities, but not the 
type.  Brilliant.

Could someone reply to this and let me know what the proper oil specs 
are for the following items:

Engine oil

Trans Oil

Differential Oil

Thanks.

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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Apr 17 17:23:55 2009
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 23:23:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Fluid Specs
In-Reply-To: <1569376809.3099391240010550675.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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Discussed multiple times here and 311s.org forums.....with multiple opinions on what to run. 

For the official Datsun recommendation, just look in the owner's manual, which you can download from 311s.org. 

Pete 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com> 
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 1:35:54 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Fluid Specs 

Hi all, 

I just went through the repair manual and could not find a spec list on 
the oils used in the vehicle. They list the capacities, but not the 
type. Brilliant. 

Could someone reply to this and let me know what the proper oil specs 
are for the following items: 

Engine oil 

Trans Oil 

Differential Oil 

Thanks. 

Eddie 
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From pat at hornesystemstx.com  Fri Apr 17 17:24:25 2009
From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:24:25 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: looking for high temperature hose source
Message-ID: <49E90FA9.702@hornesystemstx.com>

A friend has a 80's car that has a hose from the catalytic converter to 
the engine. I'm assuming it is some type of pre-heating method.
Anyway, the hose has deteriorated and needs to be replaced. Local parts 
houses and the dealer say that it is NLA. I checked McMaster-Carr and 
didn't find anything. We only need a foot of it. I seem to recall that 
this type of hose was made of silicone, but am not sure. Any idea where 
to look?

Thanks,
Pat

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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Fri Apr 17 20:17:33 2009
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 22:17:33 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Fluid Specs
In-Reply-To: <49E8E82A.50508@socal.rr.com>
References: <49E8E82A.50508@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <8CB8DE2F7DE178E-12D8-16C8@WEBMAIL-MZ04.sysops.aol.com>

 I have 20-50 Castrol and 80-90 gear oil in the tranny and diff. I use the WIX filter only.

Linda


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
To: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 1:35 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Fluid Specs









Hi all,?
?

I just went through the repair manual and could not find a spec list on 
the oils used in the vehicle.  They list the capacities, but not the 
type.  Brilliant.?
?

Could someone reply to this and let me know what the proper oil specs 
are for the following items:?
?

Engine oil?
?

Trans Oil?
?

Differential Oil?
?

Thanks.?
?

Eddie?

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From aultgc at att.net  Fri Apr 17 20:33:51 2009
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:33:51 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67
References: <1552409617.2745561239974823949.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com>
Message-ID: <1F244C080E944B92A8CC2F4043080F8C@gaxp1>

I like Steve Ehler's idea of TIG welding the cap, if it is weldable. 
Positive closure is always better than making do.  If not, what you did 
works for me, with the addition of some sealant.

Gary
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From: "Embarq Customer" <andycost at embarqmail.com>
To: "Steve Ehlers" <stevenehlers at charter.net>
Cc: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67


>I used the cap off an old cable.  A penny fits nicely inside to keep dirt 
>and stuff out of the hole.
>
> Andy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Ehlers" <stevenehlers at charter.net>
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> Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:54:08 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67
>
> If this car was at my shop ,and the customer wanted a solution ,I would
> TIG weld the pinion carrier into a plug  . I would be
> on to the next car before you got to any source  for any way to cap or
> plug it .
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From aultgc at att.net  Fri Apr 17 21:03:56 2009
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 22:03:56 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Fluid Specs
References: <49E8E82A.50508@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <98CEDA6C9A8540F9B5A685B98D0F3991@gaxp1>

Eddie,

With my 1600/U20, I run:

1.  Engine:  Castrol 20W50 in the summer, and, when I drove the car during 
cold weather, 10W50.  Cranks and starts fine with a factory starter; 
maintains good oil pressure when hot.  With 10W50 in the crankcase, the car 
would start reliably at 10-15 below (F).  (I left it outside one night to 
make sure, because I didn't want to get stranded at work.  Back then, 
1977-1979, it was my go-to-work car.)
2.  Trans/Differential:  80W90 gear oil.  (Also in steering box.)

You'll get lot's of opinions on this one, probably none more right or wrong 
than another.

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 3:35 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Fluid Specs


> Hi all,
>
> I just went through the repair manual and could not find a spec list on 
> the oils used in the vehicle.  They list the capacities, but not the type. 
> Brilliant.
>
> Could someone reply to this and let me know what the proper oil specs are 
> for the following items:
>
> Engine oil
>
> Trans Oil
>
> Differential Oil
>
> Thanks.
>
> Eddie
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From ed.sawyer at comcast.net  Fri Apr 17 21:36:02 2009
From: ed.sawyer at comcast.net (ed.sawyer at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 03:36:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: looking for high temperature hose source
In-Reply-To: <49E90FA9.702@hornesystemstx.com>
Message-ID: <1435044699.2978971240025762711.JavaMail.root@sz0057a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

When I was putting my engine back in a few years ago, I mistook the Cowl Drain hose as something more vital then it was and looked all over creation for a Silicone HI temp 3" hose that I could use. After some fruitless searching, a hydralic hose shop sent me to a Semi-truck parts place and I just went in and wondered the aisles with the parts guy for awhile and they found a High-temp silicone hose that would fit the bill. Of course, when I realized the hose I had could be necked off a little bit and still work fine...I'm not sure what happend to it after that. Short answer: Try a big rig parts place. 

Eddie 
68' Datsun Roadster "Cochecita" 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pat Horne" <pat at hornesystemstx.com> 
To: "datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 4:24:25 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: looking for high temperature hose source 

A friend has a 80's car that has a hose from the catalytic converter to 
the engine. I'm assuming it is some type of pre-heating method. 
Anyway, the hose has deteriorated and needs to be replaced. Local parts 
houses and the dealer say that it is NLA. I checked McMaster-Carr and 
didn't find anything. We only need a foot of it. I seem to recall that 
this type of hose was made of silicone, but am not sure. Any idea where 
to look? 

Thanks, 
Pat 

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From vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 17 21:57:50 2009
From: vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com (Vince Strazzabosco)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:57:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: looking for high temperature hose source
Message-ID: <303359.83816.qm@web33503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

For many years I've bought high temperature hose and other neat stuff from
Pegasus Auto Racing near Milwaukee.

vince

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/
--- On Fri, 4/17/09, ed.sawyer at comcast.net <ed.sawyer at comcast.net> wrote:

>
From: ed.sawyer at comcast.net <ed.sawyer at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters]
OT: looking for high temperature hose source
> To: pat at hornesystemstx.com
>
Cc: "datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Date: Friday,
April 17, 2009, 10:36 PM
> When I was putting my engine back in
> a few years
ago, I mistook the Cowl Drain hose as something
> more vital then it was and
looked all over creation for a
> Silicone HI temp 3" hose that I could use.
After some
> fruitless searching, a hydralic hose shop sent me to a
>
Semi-truck parts place and I just went in and wondered the
> aisles with the
parts guy for awhile and they found a
> High-temp silicone hose that would fit
the bill. Of course,
> when I realized the hose I had could be necked off a
little
> bit and still work fine...I'm not sure what happend to it
> after
that. Short answer: Try a big rig parts place. 
> 
> Eddie 
> 68' Datsun
Roadster "Cochecita" 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Pat Horne"
<pat at hornesystemstx.com>
> 
> To: "datsun Roadster List"
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> 
> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 4:24:25 PM
GMT -08:00
> US/Canada Pacific 
> Subject: [Roadsters] OT: looking for high
temperature hose
> source 
> 
> A friend has a 80's car that has a hose from
the catalytic
> converter to 
> the engine. I'm assuming it is some type of
pre-heating
> method. 
> Anyway, the hose has deteriorated and needs to be
replaced.
> Local parts 
> houses and the dealer say that it is NLA. I checked
> McMaster-Carr and 
> didn't find anything. We only need a foot of it. I seem
to
> recall that 
> this type of hose was made of silicone, but am not sure.
>
Any idea where 
> to look? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> Pat 
> 
> -- 
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Horne Systems 
> (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 
> Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com
>
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From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Fri Apr 17 22:06:41 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:06:41 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Aftermarket Gas Cap
Message-ID: <49E951D1.6060903@socal.rr.com>

Anyone have a number for an Aftermarket Gas Cap that works on the 
Roadsters?

Thanks!

Eddie

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Fri Apr 17 22:23:02 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:23:02 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Filler Neck Hose
Message-ID: <49E955A6.1070904@socal.rr.com>

Here's another item I need.  The darn Filler neck hose that goes from 
the filler neck to the tank.  It's an oddball size, 1 7/8" ID. 

Anyone know where I can get 6" of that stuff?  I found a place, but he 
has to buy 12 FEET of it, and I only need 6"! 

Unless there are 23 other people who want a piece, I'm not doing that!  lol

Eddie

From vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 17 22:44:24 2009
From: vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com (Vince Strazzabosco)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:44:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Filler Neck Hose
Message-ID: <184990.61749.qm@web33507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Years ago I bought a 3' section of such hose at NAPA, and have used it for
several projects.  The price wasn't too expensive and was easier than trying
to search around for a smaller piece.  Pegasus might also have something like
this.

vince

--- On Fri, 4/17/09, Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com> wrote:

>
From: Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
> Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Filler Neck
Hose
> To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Date:
Friday, April 17, 2009, 11:23 PM
> Here's another item I need.  The
> darn
Filler neck hose that goes from the filler neck to the
> tank.  It's an
oddball size, 1 7/8" ID. 
> Anyone know where I can get 6" of that stuff?  I
found
> a place, but he has to buy 12 FEET of it, and I only need
> 6"! 
>
Unless there are 23 other people who want a piece, I'm not
> doing that!  lol
> 
> Eddie
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From svedise at hotmail.com  Sat Apr 18 08:34:08 2009
From: svedise at hotmail.com (Jim Svedise)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 07:34:08 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Fluid Specs
In-Reply-To: <49E8E82A.50508@socal.rr.com>
	<8CB8DE2F7DE178E-12D8-16C8@WEBMAIL-MZ04.sysops.aol.com>
References: <49E8E82A.50508@socal.rr.com>
	<8CB8DE2F7DE178E-12D8-16C8@WEBMAIL-MZ04.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY136-DS6A66183F6267709A435D8B4780@phx.gbl>

I have been using 10-30 Synthetic oil in motor and auto trans fluid in trans 
for about 4 years now works great.

Jim
70 2000

PS
See you all at Solvang

--------------------------------------------------
From: <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 7:17 PM
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster Fluid Specs

> I have 20-50 Castrol and 80-90 gear oil in the tranny and diff. I use the 
> WIX filter only.
>
> Linda
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
> To: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 1:35 pm
> Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Fluid Specs
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi all,?
> ?
>
> I just went through the repair manual and could not find a spec list on
> the oils used in the vehicle.  They list the capacities, but not the
> type.  Brilliant.?
> ?
>
> Could someone reply to this and let me know what the proper oil specs
> are for the following items:?
> ?
>
> Engine oil?
> ?
>
> Trans Oil?
> ?
>
> Differential Oil?
> ?
>
> Thanks.?
> ?
>
> Eddie?
>
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From stevenehlers at charter.net  Sat Apr 18 11:23:50 2009
From: stevenehlers at charter.net (Steve Ehlers)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 12:23:50 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Filler hose
Message-ID: <49EA0CA6.8010900@charter.net>

Hey Eddie,
 This part has been available from Nissan . You have to order but it 
will be at your local dealer to pickup . Unless you use
one of the Roadster parts vendors and have it shipped to your door . 
Don't assume that you can get any and all your parts after market
or Locally . If you find something ,it's usually crap or junk .Do as you 
wish ,but are you trying to make a nice ,reliable ,and safe car ,
or just band aid your car together ?
Good Luck,
Steve

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Sat Apr 18 11:26:44 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 10:26:44 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Filler hose
In-Reply-To: <49EA0CA6.8010900@charter.net>
References: <49EA0CA6.8010900@charter.net>
Message-ID: <49EA0D54.1000008@socal.rr.com>

Hey Steve,

Actually this part should be available as an aftermarket part, it's a 
standard  neoprene fuel filler hose.  Nothing special about it except 
the standard sizes are 2", and the 1 7/8" is a bit oddball.  But, it's 
out there.

Eddie

Steve Ehlers wrote:
> Hey Eddie,
> This part has been available from Nissan . You have to order but it 
> will be at your local dealer to pickup . Unless you use
> one of the Roadster parts vendors and have it shipped to your door . 
> Don't assume that you can get any and all your parts after market
> or Locally . If you find something ,it's usually crap or junk .Do as 
> you wish ,but are you trying to make a nice ,reliable ,and safe car ,
> or just band aid your car together ?
> Good Luck,
> Steve

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Sat Apr 18 11:46:44 2009
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:46:44 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Filler hose
In-Reply-To: <49EA0D54.1000008@socal.rr.com>
References: <49EA0CA6.8010900@charter.net>
  <49EA0D54.1000008@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <8CB8E64C54E3634-F2C-2788@WEBMAIL-DY11.sysops.aol.com>

 Why not just get the 2" hose? It's not under pressure and unlikely to leak I would think.

Linda


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
To: Steve Ehlers <stevenehlers at charter.net>
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 10:26 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Filler hose









Hey Steve,?
?

Actually this part should be available as an aftermarket part, it's a 
standard  neoprene fuel filler hose.  Nothing special about it except 
the standard sizes are 2", and the 1 7/8" is a bit oddball.  But, it's 
out there.?
?

Eddie?
?

Steve Ehlers wrote:?

> Hey Eddie,?

> This part has been available from Nissan . You have to order but it 
> will be at your local dealer to pickup . Unless you use?

> one of the Roadster parts vendors and have it shipped to your door . 
> Don't assume that you can get any and all your parts after market?

> or Locally . If you find something ,it's usually crap or junk .Do as 
> you wish ,but are you trying to make a nice ,reliable ,and safe car ,?

> or just band aid your car together ??

> Good Luck,?

> Steve?

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From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Sat Apr 18 11:50:23 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 10:50:23 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Filler hose
In-Reply-To: <8CB8E64C54E3634-F2C-2788@WEBMAIL-DY11.sysops.aol.com>
References: <49EA0CA6.8010900@charter.net> <49EA0D54.1000008@socal.rr.com>
	<8CB8E64C54E3634-F2C-2788@WEBMAIL-DY11.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <49EA12DF.5050004@socal.rr.com>

Those hoses are much harder than standard rubber "radiator" type hoses.  
They won't tighten down as well, and will be more prone to leak vapors.  

This is the hose that's in the trunk, from the filler neck to the tank.  
You don't want gas vapors filling the trunk of your car..  even a small 
leak could cause the trunk to fill up with gas fumes... then you turn 
your lights on and watch the rear end of your car explode...

Eddie

ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote:
>  Why not just get the 2" hose? It's not under pressure and unlikely to leak I would think.
>
> Linda
>
>
>  
>
>
>  
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
> To: Steve Ehlers <stevenehlers at charter.net>
> Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Sent: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 10:26 am
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Filler hose
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey Steve,?
> ?
>
> Actually this part should be available as an aftermarket part, it's a 
> standard  neoprene fuel filler hose.  Nothing special about it except 
> the standard sizes are 2", and the 1 7/8" is a bit oddball.  But, it's 
> out there.?
> ?
>
> Eddie?
> ?
>
> Steve Ehlers wrote:?
>
>   
>> Hey Eddie,?
>>     
>
>   
>> This part has been available from Nissan . You have to order but it 
>> will be at your local dealer to pickup . Unless you use?
>>     
>
>   
>> one of the Roadster parts vendors and have it shipped to your door . 
>> Don't assume that you can get any and all your parts after market?
>>     
>
>   
>> or Locally . If you find something ,it's usually crap or junk .Do as 
>> you wish ,but are you trying to make a nice ,reliable ,and safe car ,?
>>     
>
>   
>> or just band aid your car together ??
>>     
>
>   
>> Good Luck,?
>>     
>
>   
>> Steve?
>>     
>
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From stevenehlers at charter.net  Sat Apr 18 12:21:05 2009
From: stevenehlers at charter.net (Steve Ehlers)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:21:05 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Filler hose
In-Reply-To: <49EA0D54.1000008@socal.rr.com>
References: <49EA0CA6.8010900@charter.net>
  <49EA0D54.1000008@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <49EA1A11.7050301@charter.net>

Eddie ,
I only said that because  I ordered several a few years ago and got them 
in stock then ,and still have a stash for my car.
Steve

Eddie wrote:

> Hey Steve,
>
> Actually this part should be available as an aftermarket part, it's a 
> standard  neoprene fuel filler hose.  Nothing special about it except 
> the standard sizes are 2", and the 1 7/8" is a bit oddball.  But, it's 
> out there.
>
> Eddie
>
> Steve Ehlers wrote:
>
>> Hey Eddie,
>> This part has been available from Nissan . You have to order but it 
>> will be at your local dealer to pickup . Unless you use
>> one of the Roadster parts vendors and have it shipped to your door . 
>> Don't assume that you can get any and all your parts after market
>> or Locally . If you find something ,it's usually crap or junk .Do as 
>> you wish ,but are you trying to make a nice ,reliable ,and safe car ,
>> or just band aid your car together ?
>> Good Luck,
>> Steve

From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Sat Apr 18 12:28:22 2009
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:28:22 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Filler hose
References: <49EA0CA6.8010900@charter.net> 
	<49EA0D54.1000008@socal.rr.com> <49EA1A11.7050301@charter.net>
Message-ID: <009001c9c053$7bfc7150$6400a8c0@LAP120>

If that size is out there ( and it is BTW), then go get one. If they're
getting scarce, or otherwise hard to to find, maybe you or someone else can
get them manufactured for the rest of us. Then we won't have to buy them
from other the sources..
Mike H.   '67 - Stoker / 5-Speed


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Ehlers" <stevenehlers at charter.net>
To: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>; <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Filler hose


> Eddie ,
> I only said that because  I ordered several a few years ago and got them
> in stock then ,and still have a stash for my car.
> Steve
>
> Eddie wrote:
>
> > Hey Steve,
> >
> > Actually this part should be available as an aftermarket part, it's a
> > standard  neoprene fuel filler hose.  Nothing special about it except
> > the standard sizes are 2", and the 1 7/8" is a bit oddball.  But, it's
> > out there.
> >
> > Eddie
> >
> > Steve Ehlers wrote:
> >
> >> Hey Eddie,
> >> This part has been available from Nissan . You have to order but it
> >> will be at your local dealer to pickup . Unless you use
> >> one of the Roadster parts vendors and have it shipped to your door .
> >> Don't assume that you can get any and all your parts after market
> >> or Locally . If you find something ,it's usually crap or junk .Do as
> >> you wish ,but are you trying to make a nice ,reliable ,and safe car ,
> >> or just band aid your car together ?
> >> Good Luck,
> >> Steve
> ________________________________________

From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Sat Apr 18 12:28:07 2009
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:28:07 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Filler hose
References: <49EA0CA6.8010900@charter.net> 
	<49EA0D54.1000008@socal.rr.com> <49EA1A11.7050301@charter.net>
Message-ID: <008f01c9c053$7b4b22b0$6400a8c0@LAP120>

If that size is out there ( and it is BTW), then go get one. If they're
getting scarce, or otherwise hard to to find, maybe you or someone else can
get them manufactured for the rest of us. Then we won't have to buy them
from other the sources..
Mike H.   '67 - Stoker / 5-Speed


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Ehlers" <stevenehlers at charter.net>
To: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>; <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Filler hose


> Eddie ,
> I only said that because  I ordered several a few years ago and got them
> in stock then ,and still have a stash for my car.
> Steve
>
> Eddie wrote:
>
> > Hey Steve,
> >
> > Actually this part should be available as an aftermarket part, it's a
> > standard  neoprene fuel filler hose.  Nothing special about it except
> > the standard sizes are 2", and the 1 7/8" is a bit oddball.  But, it's
> > out there.
> >
> > Eddie
> >
> > Steve Ehlers wrote:
> >
> >> Hey Eddie,
> >> This part has been available from Nissan . You have to order but it
> >> will be at your local dealer to pickup . Unless you use
> >> one of the Roadster parts vendors and have it shipped to your door .
> >> Don't assume that you can get any and all your parts after market
> >> or Locally . If you find something ,it's usually crap or junk .Do as
> >> you wish ,but are you trying to make a nice ,reliable ,and safe car ,
> >> or just band aid your car together ?
> >> Good Luck,
> >> Steve
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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Sat Apr 18 12:49:24 2009
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 14:49:24 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Filler Neck Hose
In-Reply-To: <49E955A6.1070904@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <77C45653E67249B485A90E340E9D14C5@delled48909442>

Local Napa should have it, is 2" so loose the clamp won't make it up?
Sounds silly, but I would guess almost everyone who hasn't replaced their
hose probably should, so the remainder of the 12 feet would probably sell.
Bring it to Solvang, I'll take a foot!!

Gates lists 1 7/8, 3 foot lengths.  www.Gates.com 

Product ID  	
 46633603		
 Part #
 23930	
 Product Description
 23930 1-7/8" X3FT FUEL FILL		
 UPC
 072053062663


-----Original Message-----
From: Eddie [mailto:eddietude at socal.rr.com] 
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 12:23 AM
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Filler Neck Hose

Here's another item I need.  The darn Filler neck hose that goes from 
the filler neck to the tank.  It's an oddball size, 1 7/8" ID. 

Anyone know where I can get 6" of that stuff?  I found a place, but he 
has to buy 12 FEET of it, and I only need 6"! 

Unless there are 23 other people who want a piece, I'm not doing that!  lol

Eddie

From vze2fhba at verizon.net  Sat Apr 18 12:58:51 2009
From: vze2fhba at verizon.net (vze2fhba at verizon.net)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:58:51 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Filler hose
Message-ID: <1492968113.1388436.1240081131345.JavaMail.root@vms181.mailsrvcs.net>


From stevenehlers at charter.net  Sat Apr 18 13:11:34 2009
From: stevenehlers at charter.net (Steve Ehlers)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 14:11:34 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Filler hose
In-Reply-To: <1492968113.1388436.1240081131345.JavaMail.root@vms181.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <1492968113.1388436.1240081131345.JavaMail.root@vms181.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <49EA25E6.4080800@charter.net>

/V7ngxM: Permission denied

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Sat Apr 18 13:31:02 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 12:31:02 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Filler hose
In-Reply-To: <009001c9c053$7bfc7150$6400a8c0@LAP120>
References: <49EA0CA6.8010900@charter.net> 
	<49EA0D54.1000008@socal.rr.com> <49EA1A11.7050301@charter.net>
	<009001c9c053$7bfc7150$6400a8c0@LAP120>
Message-ID: <49EA2A76.6030600@socal.rr.com>

"maybe you or someone else can get them manufactured for the rest of us. "

You know, I did that once, and got nothing but headaches for it.  Half 
the people who said they wanted the item never ordered it, others did 
everything they could to derail the project, and few were willing to 
stand up and open voice their support of it.  Behind the scenes, many 
were willing to email me privately and offer support, but openly?  Nope. 

As a result, I haven't bothered to get a number of things manufactured 
that I could, quite easily, and probably at reasonable prices. 

When the Roadster Community is willing to actually buy what they say 
they will, and stand up to the bullies who try to derail anyone who 
wants to do anything for the community, and when people stop telling 
others THEY should go get something manufactured, I'll be glad to help.

Until then, people can go to the vendors and pay whatever they're charging.

Eddie



 
MH wrote:
> If that size is out there ( and it is BTW), then go get one. If they're
> getting scarce, or otherwise hard to to find, maybe you or someone else can
> get them manufactured for the rest of us. Then we won't have to buy them
> from other the sources..
> Mike H.   '67 - Stoker / 5-Speed
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve Ehlers" <stevenehlers at charter.net>
> To: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>; <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 1:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Filler hose
>
>
>   
>> Eddie ,
>> I only said that because  I ordered several a few years ago and got them
>> in stock then ,and still have a stash for my car.
>> Steve
>>
>> Eddie wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Hey Steve,
>>>
>>> Actually this part should be available as an aftermarket part, it's a
>>> standard  neoprene fuel filler hose.  Nothing special about it except
>>> the standard sizes are 2", and the 1 7/8" is a bit oddball.  But, it's
>>> out there.
>>>
>>> Eddie
>>>
>>> Steve Ehlers wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Hey Eddie,
>>>> This part has been available from Nissan . You have to order but it
>>>> will be at your local dealer to pickup . Unless you use
>>>> one of the Roadster parts vendors and have it shipped to your door .
>>>> Don't assume that you can get any and all your parts after market
>>>> or Locally . If you find something ,it's usually crap or junk .Do as
>>>> you wish ,but are you trying to make a nice ,reliable ,and safe car ,
>>>> or just band aid your car together ?
>>>> Good Luck,
>>>> Steve
>>>>         
>> ________________________________________

From tom at datsun2000.com  Sat Apr 18 17:01:05 2009
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 16:01:05 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OOPS
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGCEBKDHAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

What might happen when you don't disconnect the negative lead of the battery
when you are working on your car?

Nothing....... usually

http://www.datsun2000.com/battery.htm

But when something does happen it is dramatic, and very hard on the ears.  I
accidentally touched the positive pole with a grounded ratchet handle and
the battery exploded.  Fortunately I did not get much acid on me and it was
easily washed off.  I suspect it was only dumb luck that my glasses caught a
few small dots and nothing got into my eyes.

Will I disconnect the negative lead on the battery when I work on the car
again?  Yeah, I probably will.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

From andycost at embarqmail.com  Sat Apr 18 20:22:55 2009
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 21:22:55 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone?
Message-ID: <JBEKJICFFOFCBHHGLNFDGEJFDIAA.andycost@embarqmail.com>

Who needs 30 Roadsters?  I suspect the answer is anyone that only has 29.
Mike Adams is looking for a buyer to clean out his stash.  He has
approximately 30 Roadsters and stacks of parts, motors, hoods, wheels, etc..
There is a 213, 67.5 1600, and many other years.  I'm pretty sure he isn't
looking to spend time parting them out or selling piecemeal.  Make him an
offer for the whole lot.  The cars are located between Burr and Wharton, TX.
I took some photos which are located on my webshots page and are numbered
DSC00270-DSC00284.  You will probably have to go down to Wharton and drag
them out of the weeds yourself.  Mike has a tractor that he would probably
let you use.  I bet you could fit a bunch in containers or some other form
of bulk transport.
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2748906430065431685kaQWxb][img]http://thumb5
.webshots.net/t/62/662/9/6/43/2748906430065431685kaQWxb_th.jpg


Contact Mike to make the deal.
fromburr at yahoo.com


Thanks,

Andy Cost

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Sat Apr 18 20:38:12 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 19:38:12 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone?
In-Reply-To: <JBEKJICFFOFCBHHGLNFDGEJFDIAA.andycost@embarqmail.com>
References: <JBEKJICFFOFCBHHGLNFDGEJFDIAA.andycost@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <49EA8E94.7080102@socal.rr.com>

That's just insane!   30 roadsters!  What the heck would you DO with 30 
roadsters? 

It would be pretty cool to see how many COMPLETE roadsters one could 
salvage out of that pile.  If I lived near there, had nothing to do, and 
lots of room, I'd be tempted.  Thank GOD I don't!  lol

Some of those looked pretty bad, and pretty hacked up.  I like the ones 
with the trees growing through the engine compartment.

Eddie

Andy Cost wrote:
> Who needs 30 Roadsters?  I suspect the answer is anyone that only has 29.
> Mike Adams is looking for a buyer to clean out his stash.  He has
> approximately 30 Roadsters and stacks of parts, motors, hoods, wheels, etc..
> There is a 213, 67.5 1600, and many other years.  I'm pretty sure he isn't
> looking to spend time parting them out or selling piecemeal.  Make him an
> offer for the whole lot.  The cars are located between Burr and Wharton, TX.
> I took some photos which are located on my webshots page and are numbered
> DSC00270-DSC00284.  You will probably have to go down to Wharton and drag
> them out of the weeds yourself.  Mike has a tractor that he would probably
> let you use.  I bet you could fit a bunch in containers or some other form
> of bulk transport.
> http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2748906430065431685kaQWxb][img]http://thumb5
> .webshots.net/t/62/662/9/6/43/2748906430065431685kaQWxb_th.jpg
>
>
> Contact Mike to make the deal.
> fromburr at yahoo.com
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy Cost
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From slowboy at cox.net  Sat Apr 18 20:51:12 2009
From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 19:51:12 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone?
In-Reply-To: <49EA8E94.7080102@socal.rr.com>
References: <JBEKJICFFOFCBHHGLNFDGEJFDIAA.andycost@embarqmail.com>
	<49EA8E94.7080102@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <0FD5B3DE9A894C7BA54FDF5B9EBF9E3B@m7170n>

-----Original Message-----
That's just insane!   30 roadsters!  What the heck would you DO with 30 
roadsters? 


For one, you avoid the wife.

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Sat Apr 18 21:05:26 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 20:05:26 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone?
In-Reply-To: <0FD5B3DE9A894C7BA54FDF5B9EBF9E3B@m7170n>
References: <JBEKJICFFOFCBHHGLNFDGEJFDIAA.andycost@embarqmail.com>
	<49EA8E94.7080102@socal.rr.com>
	<0FD5B3DE9A894C7BA54FDF5B9EBF9E3B@m7170n>
Message-ID: <49EA94F6.8080308@socal.rr.com>

I've got a better plan.  Don't HAVE a wife...

That way, I can afford more roadsters!  LMAO!



SlowBoy wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> That's just insane!   30 roadsters!  What the heck would you DO with 30 
> roadsters? 
>
>
> For one, you avoid the wife.
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From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Sat Apr 18 21:17:19 2009
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 22:17:19 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone?
References: <JBEKJICFFOFCBHHGLNFDGEJFDIAA.andycost@embarqmail.com><49EA8E94.7080102@socal.rr.com>
	<0FD5B3DE9A894C7BA54FDF5B9EBF9E3B@m7170n>
Message-ID: <013b01c9c09d$596cc9b0$6400a8c0@LAP120>

"What the heck would you DO with 30 roadsters? "

How about replacing the fuel filler hoses for 23 of them so Eddie can get
his piece!  LOL!

Mike H.


-----Original Message-----
From: Eddie [mailto:eddietude at socal.rr.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 12:23 AM
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Filler Neck Hose

>Here's another item I need.  The darn Filler neck hose that goes from
>the filler neck to the tank.  It's an oddball size, 1 7/8" ID.

>Anyone know where I can get 6" of that stuff?  I found a place, but he
>has to buy 12 FEET of it, and I only need 6"!

>Unless there are 23 other people who want a piece, I'm not doing that!  lol

>Eddie



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "SlowBoy" <slowboy at cox.net>
To: "'Roadster List'" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone?


> -----Original Message-----
> That's just insane!   30 roadsters!  What the heck would you DO with 30
> roadsters?
>
>
> For one, you avoid the wife.

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Sat Apr 18 21:21:54 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 20:21:54 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone?
In-Reply-To: <013b01c9c09d$596cc9b0$6400a8c0@LAP120>
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Now that's FUNNY! 

hahaha. 

It would be interesting to see how many complete roadsters could be made 
from the parts of those 30 without having to buy anything but the rubber 
stuff, etc.  It's a good thing that pile is in Texas.  I couldn't get it 
back to Los Angeles...

(I could see my neighbors now...)  lol

Eddie

MH wrote:
> "What the heck would you DO with 30 roadsters? "
>
> How about replacing the fuel filler hoses for 23 of them so Eddie can get
> his piece!  LOL!
>
> Mike H.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eddie [mailto:eddietude at socal.rr.com]
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 12:23 AM
> To: Datsun Roadster List
> Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Filler Neck Hose
>
>   
>> Here's another item I need.  The darn Filler neck hose that goes from
>> the filler neck to the tank.  It's an oddball size, 1 7/8" ID.
>>     
>
>   
>> Anyone know where I can get 6" of that stuff?  I found a place, but he
>> has to buy 12 FEET of it, and I only need 6"!
>>     
>
>   
>> Unless there are 23 other people who want a piece, I'm not doing that!  lol
>>     
>
>   
>> Eddie
>>     
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "SlowBoy" <slowboy at cox.net>
> To: "'Roadster List'" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 9:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone?
>
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> That's just insane!   30 roadsters!  What the heck would you DO with 30
>> roadsters?
>>
>>
>> For one, you avoid the wife.
>>     
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From chalsted at comcast.net  Sat Apr 18 22:01:06 2009
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 04:01:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone?
In-Reply-To: <JBEKJICFFOFCBHHGLNFDGEJFDIAA.andycost@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <1056099890.1095081240113666175.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

no thanks, I already have over 40.... ;-)B B B  good thingB texas isn't close
by....

Craig

From aultgc at att.net  Sat Apr 18 22:35:14 2009
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 23:35:14 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Filler hose
References: <49EA0CA6.8010900@charter.net>
Message-ID: <F5C5EFA964A943DEB45B91FD97149A25@gaxp1>

In addition of the possiblility of purchase from Nissan, both Dean 
(datsunparts.com) and Dann (datsunroadster.com) have the part.**  Prices 
different, but both reasonable.  It is a waste of time to agonize about 
alternatives.

Gary

** In fairness to both Dann and Dean (in alphabetical order), I will try to 
alternate which I mention first.  Both are reliable suppliers.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Ehlers" <stevenehlers at charter.net>
To: <eddietude at socal.rr.com>; <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Filler hose


> Hey Eddie,
> This part has been available from Nissan . You have to order but it will 
> be at your local dealer to pickup . Unless you use
> one of the Roadster parts vendors and have it shipped to your door . Don't 
> assume that you can get any and all your parts after market
> or Locally . If you find something ,it's usually crap or junk .Do as you 
> wish ,but are you trying to make a nice ,reliable ,and safe car ,
> or just band aid your car together ?
> Good Luck,
> Steve
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Sat Apr 18 23:07:56 2009
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 01:07:56 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone?
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 Good thing Texas is big.
Is he in therapy for his addiction? Sheesh

Linda


 


 

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Sent: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 9:01 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone?










no thanks, I already have over 40.... ;-)B B B  good thingB texas isn't close
by....

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From aultgc at att.net  Sat Apr 18 23:33:17 2009
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 00:33:17 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone?
References: <8CB8EC3EFCA2181-139C-3999@FWM-D11.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <A7CD820324BC4A33AE245DACBE43446A@gaxp1>

What addiction?  If one has the space and the money, why not?  I would. 
Fortunately, I have neither, so temptation lies behind me.  Except for the 
1967-1/2 2000 Paul Gabriel restored...

I now also have a great third-bay addition to my garage, and an 11x26 
storeroom upstairs for all my roadster parts..

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
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To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone?


> Good thing Texas is big.
> Is he in therapy for his addiction? Sheesh
>
> Linda
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chalsted at comcast.net
> To: Andy Cost <andycost at embarqmail.com>
> Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Sent: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 9:01 pm
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> no thanks, I already have over 40.... ;-)B B B  good thingB texas isn't 
> close
> by....
>
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From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Sun Apr 19 02:16:23 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 01:16:23 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone?
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Agreed 100%.  If I had a ton of land, and the cash, I'd grab these in a 
heartbeat, inventory everything, and start rebuilding those cars that 
could be saved.  Frankly, I think it would be cool if those cars were 
saved, and I'm guessing that someone could make at least a FEW complete 
cars out of that entire batch. 

Eddie

Gary and Cindy Ault wrote:
> What addiction?  If one has the space and the money, why not?  I 
> would. Fortunately, I have neither, so temptation lies behind me.  
> Except for the 1967-1/2 2000 Paul Gabriel restored...
>
> I now also have a great third-bay addition to my garage, and an 11x26 
> storeroom upstairs for all my roadster parts..
>
> Gary
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone?
>
>
>> Good thing Texas is big.
>> Is he in therapy for his addiction? Sheesh
>>
>> Linda
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: chalsted at comcast.net
>> To: Andy Cost <andycost at embarqmail.com>
>> Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>> Sent: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 9:01 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> no thanks, I already have over 40.... ;-)B B B  good thingB texas 
>> isn't close
>> by....
>>
>> Craig
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From andycost at embarqmail.com  Sun Apr 19 07:09:33 2009
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 08:09:33 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone?
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There are several mostly complete cars in decent shape.  There are several
that have been chopped up.  Mike was a vendor of parts and doing some
restorations.  In the last few years he has had too much other stuff going
on to continue the Datsun business.  You could definately build several
complete cars from the parts he has and sell bunches of parts if you had the
time and inclination to put them on EBAY.  Buy the lot, take the few you
like home, haul the rest 10 miles to the scrap iron recycler (where they all
will end up if someone doesn't buy them).

Andy

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Sun Apr 19 11:10:50 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 10:10:50 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone?
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Message-ID: <49EB5B1A.3070603@socal.rr.com>

The problem is, stuff isn't selling on ebay, and what is isn't getting a 
very good price, probably due to the economy.  A weekend sports car 
isn't a necessity, and folks just aren't spending free cash for parts 
right now.

It's a shame that any of that will end up in the scrap heap, as I'm sure 
that someone, somewhere could use those parts eventually, especially the 
body panels!  (which of course, are the hardest parts to store and keep...)

Eddie

Andy Cost wrote:
> There are several mostly complete cars in decent shape.  There are several
> that have been chopped up.  Mike was a vendor of parts and doing some
> restorations.  In the last few years he has had too much other stuff going
> on to continue the Datsun business.  You could definately build several
> complete cars from the parts he has and sell bunches of parts if you had the
> time and inclination to put them on EBAY.  Buy the lot, take the few you
> like home, haul the rest 10 miles to the scrap iron recycler (where they all
> will end up if someone doesn't buy them).
>
> Andy
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From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Sun Apr 19 11:26:16 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 10:26:16 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone?
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Message-ID: <49EB5EB8.1040600@socal.rr.com>

This is starting to sound like a salvage and save mission!  Who's in? 

Eddie

Andy Cost wrote:
> There are several mostly complete cars in decent shape.  There are several
> that have been chopped up.  Mike was a vendor of parts and doing some
> restorations.  In the last few years he has had too much other stuff going
> on to continue the Datsun business.  You could definately build several
> complete cars from the parts he has and sell bunches of parts if you had the
> time and inclination to put them on EBAY.  Buy the lot, take the few you
> like home, haul the rest 10 miles to the scrap iron recycler (where they all
> will end up if someone doesn't buy them).
>
> Andy
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From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 19 11:46:20 2009
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 10:46:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] weighing my car
Message-ID: <413479.41309.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

hi everyone
thanks to all who offered advice on where to weigh my car.  my friend reminded me that there is a land-fill (dump) very close to here, with scales.  i went there yesterday, and the guys were nice enough to let me drive my car up on it.
with me in the car, and maybe another 50 lbs of "stuff," we weighed in at 2100 lbs.  so without me, and the stuff, figure 1850.  because the rules say i must be at least 2030, with driver and safety equipment, i can still lost some weight before incurring any penalty.  because the car is pretty stripped, that will be tough.  i guess some fiberglass is in our future.
i'll be at buttonwillow this next weekend.  same weekend as Solvang.  so i will miss that.  again.
steve
675MIZU

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Sun Apr 19 19:51:14 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:51:14 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] It won't start....
Message-ID: <49EBD512.8030808@socal.rr.com>

Ok, so it's wired up, the starter turns, fuel is at the carbs, I have 
spark at the distributor, but the car won't start. 

I've got a couple of questions that the darn manual isn't clear about.

My car is a 1966, the motor is an H20 1600. 

1) Is TDC the large mark on the pulley?  (When viewed from the front, 
with the pulley set with the marks on top, the other marks would be to 
the right of the largest mark.)

2) Is the "pointer" the line that's part of the timing chain cover? 

3) When the car is set at TDC, should the rotor be pointed at the #1 
cylinder?

4) At that position, should the points be open?

Thanks guys.  This is driving me NUTS.  I'm literally steps away from 
getting the car to go to Solvang, but at this pace it may not happen...

Eddie

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Sun Apr 19 20:39:25 2009
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 22:39:25 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] It won't start....
In-Reply-To: <49EBD512.8030808@socal.rr.com>
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 Eddie,
Until the cavalry shows.....
1Yes large mark all the way to the left as you face the pulley 2 My car has a pointer on it not sure how that corresponds 3 rotor should be pointing to wire that goes to #1 spark plug 4 I don't have points sorry. If you left the key on they can byrn, from what I remember.
Your coil and condenser should be new. Be sure your cap wires are correct? for firing order. Also if dizzy is installed 180 deg out your #1 wire at cap will be different.
Good luck
Linda


-----Original Message-----
From: Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
To: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 6:51 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] It won't start....









Ok, so it's wired up, the starter turns, fuel is at the carbs, I have 
spark at the distributor, but the car won't start. ?

I've got a couple of questions that the darn manual isn't clear about.?
?

My car is a 1966, the motor is an H20 1600. ?

1) Is TDC the large mark on the pulley?  (When viewed from the front, 
with the pulley set with the marks on top, the other marks would be to 
the right of the largest mark.)?
?

2) Is the "pointer" the line that's part of the timing chain cover? ?

3) When the car is set at TDC, should the rotor be pointed at the #1 
cylinder??
?

4) At that position, should the points be open??
?

Thanks guys.  This is driving me NUTS.  I'm literally steps away from 
getting the car to go to Solvang, but at this pace it may not happen...?
?

Eddie?

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From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Sun Apr 19 20:39:07 2009
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 19:39:07 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OOPS
References: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGCEBKDHAA.tom@datsun2000.com>
Message-ID: <A23507E5B7804DDAAD46C117B6685C29@Daryl>

I think you're lucky it blew out the side and not more straight up! Glad you 
were not injured.
Interesting to note that when I was growing up around and working on cars I 
was always taught to remove the cable from the positive post of the battery.
It seems now that it is always made a point to remove the NEGATIVE post 
first.
I'm wondering if I was taught wrong years ago, or is this something that has 
crept in with all the computers and electronics in cars?

Daryl

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" <tom at datsun2000.com>


> What might happen when you don't disconnect the negative lead of the 
> battery
> when you are working on your car?
>
> Nothing....... usually
>
> http://www.datsun2000.com/battery.htm
>
> But when something does happen it is dramatic, and very hard on the ears. 
> I
> accidentally touched the positive pole with a grounded ratchet handle and
> the battery exploded.  Fortunately I did not get much acid on me and it 
> was
> easily washed off.  I suspect it was only dumb luck that my glasses caught 
> a
> few small dots and nothing got into my eyes.
>
> Will I disconnect the negative lead on the battery when I work on the car
> again?  Yeah, I probably will.
>
> Tom
> 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
> Portland
> http://www.datsun2000.com
> http://www.nowroc.org

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Sun Apr 19 20:46:49 2009
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 21:46:49 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OOPS
References: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGCEBKDHAA.tom@datsun2000.com>
	<A23507E5B7804DDAAD46C117B6685C29@Daryl>
Message-ID: <001301c9c162$4c163790$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local>

i think it has to do with safety.  i was taught to always take the negative 
off first.  the reason given was that if you remove the positive first, and 
the wrench strikes the body, engine, etc, there will be a spark.  if you 
remove the negative first, this is not the case.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daryl Smith" <drlsmith at dccnet.com>
To: <tom at datsun2000.com>; "Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OOPS


>I think you're lucky it blew out the side and not more straight up! Glad 
>you were not injured.
> Interesting to note that when I was growing up around and working on cars 
> I was always taught to remove the cable from the positive post of the 
> battery.
> It seems now that it is always made a point to remove the NEGATIVE post 
> first.
> I'm wondering if I was taught wrong years ago, or is this something that 
> has crept in with all the computers and electronics in cars?
>
> Daryl
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" <tom at datsun2000.com>
>
>
>> What might happen when you don't disconnect the negative lead of the 
>> battery
>> when you are working on your car?
>>
>> Nothing....... usually
>>
>> http://www.datsun2000.com/battery.htm
>>
>> But when something does happen it is dramatic, and very hard on the ears. 
>> I
>> accidentally touched the positive pole with a grounded ratchet handle and
>> the battery exploded.  Fortunately I did not get much acid on me and it 
>> was
>> easily washed off.  I suspect it was only dumb luck that my glasses 
>> caught a
>> few small dots and nothing got into my eyes.
>>
>> Will I disconnect the negative lead on the battery when I work on the car
>> again?  Yeah, I probably will.
>>
>> Tom
>> 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
>> Portland 

From aultgc at att.net  Sun Apr 19 21:01:46 2009
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 22:01:46 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OOPS
References: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGCEBKDHAA.tom@datsun2000.com><A23507E5B7804DDAAD46C117B6685C29@Daryl>
	<001301c9c162$4c163790$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local>
Message-ID: <7F7F2EB661C341888A59908E7C862E2C@gaxp1>

Oliver's right.  I know from an experience one time when I got lazy.  Lucky 
it was just a spark.

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "oliver" <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OOPS


>i think it has to do with safety.  i was taught to always take the negative 
>off first.  the reason given was that if you remove the positive first, and 
>the wrench strikes the body, engine, etc, there will be a spark.  if you 
>remove the negative first, this is not the case.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Daryl Smith" <drlsmith at dccnet.com>
> To: <tom at datsun2000.com>; "Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" 
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OOPS
>
>
>>I think you're lucky it blew out the side and not more straight up! Glad 
>>you were not injured.
>> Interesting to note that when I was growing up around and working on cars 
>> I was always taught to remove the cable from the positive post of the 
>> battery.
>> It seems now that it is always made a point to remove the NEGATIVE post 
>> first.
>> I'm wondering if I was taught wrong years ago, or is this something that 
>> has crept in with all the computers and electronics in cars?
>>
>> Daryl
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" <tom at datsun2000.com>
>>
>>
>>> What might happen when you don't disconnect the negative lead of the 
>>> battery
>>> when you are working on your car?
>>>
>>> Nothing....... usually
>>>
>>> http://www.datsun2000.com/battery.htm
>>>
>>> But when something does happen it is dramatic, and very hard on the 
>>> ears. I
>>> accidentally touched the positive pole with a grounded ratchet handle 
>>> and
>>> the battery exploded.  Fortunately I did not get much acid on me and it 
>>> was
>>> easily washed off.  I suspect it was only dumb luck that my glasses 
>>> caught a
>>> few small dots and nothing got into my eyes.
>>>
>>> Will I disconnect the negative lead on the battery when I work on the 
>>> car
>>> again?  Yeah, I probably will.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>> 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
>>> Portland
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From bubwin at mts.net  Sun Apr 19 21:04:06 2009
From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 22:04:06 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OOPS
In-Reply-To: <001301c9c162$4c163790$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local>
References: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGCEBKDHAA.tom@datsun2000.com><A23507E5B7804DDAAD46C117B6685C29@Daryl>
	<001301c9c162$4c163790$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local>
Message-ID: <4709D2E2C64F4B02B5FC13D821E06463@ctmPC>

If you're old enough, disconnecting the positive may be right.  Vehicles 
used to be positive ground.

Bob Winslade
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "oliver" <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OOPS


>i think it has to do with safety.  i was taught to always take the negative 
>off first.  the reason given was that if you remove the positive first, and 
>the wrench strikes the body, engine, etc, there will be a spark.  if you 
>remove the negative first, this is not the case.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Daryl Smith" <drlsmith at dccnet.com>
> To: <tom at datsun2000.com>; "Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" 
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OOPS
>
>
>>I think you're lucky it blew out the side and not more straight up! Glad 
>>you were not injured.
>> Interesting to note that when I was growing up around and working on cars 
>> I was always taught to remove the cable from the positive post of the 
>> battery.
>> It seems now that it is always made a point to remove the NEGATIVE post 
>> first.
>> I'm wondering if I was taught wrong years ago, or is this something that 
>> has crept in with all the computers and electronics in cars?
>>
>> Daryl
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" <tom at datsun2000.com>
>>
>>
>>> What might happen when you don't disconnect the negative lead of the 
>>> battery
>>> when you are working on your car?
>>>
>>> Nothing....... usually
>>>
>>> http://www.datsun2000.com/battery.htm
>>>
>>> But when something does happen it is dramatic, and very hard on the 
>>> ears. I
>>> accidentally touched the positive pole with a grounded ratchet handle 
>>> and
>>> the battery exploded.  Fortunately I did not get much acid on me and it 
>>> was
>>> easily washed off.  I suspect it was only dumb luck that my glasses 
>>> caught a
>>> few small dots and nothing got into my eyes.
>>>
>>> Will I disconnect the negative lead on the battery when I work on the 
>>> car
>>> again?  Yeah, I probably will.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>> 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
>>> Portland
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From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Sun Apr 19 21:28:16 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:28:16 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] It won't start....
In-Reply-To: <8CB8F785AA5A806-E40-4C0B@MBLK-M04.sysops.aol.com>
References: <49EBD512.8030808@socal.rr.com>
	<8CB8F785AA5A806-E40-4C0B@MBLK-M04.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <49EBEBD0.2050508@socal.rr.com>

YUP.  All of that is done.

As I'm looking at this thing I'm starting to think perhaps the guy who 
built the motor may have put something in off a tooth....  It just 
doesn't seem right.

Eddie

ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote:
> Eddie,
> Until the cavalry shows.....
> 1Yes large mark all the way to the left as you face the pulley 2 My 
> car has a pointer on it not sure how that corresponds 3 rotor should 
> be pointing to wire that goes to #1 spark plug 4 I don't have points 
> sorry. If you left the key on they can byrn, from what I remember.
> Your coil and condenser should be new. Be sure your cap wires are 
> correct  for firing order. Also if dizzy is installed 180 deg out your 
> #1 wire at cap will be different.
> Good luck
> Linda
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
> To: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 6:51 pm
> Subject: [Roadsters] It won't start....
>
> Ok, so it's wired up, the starter turns, fuel is at the carbs, I have 
> spark at the distributor, but the car won't start.  
> I've got a couple of questions that the darn manual isn't clear about. 
>  
> My car is a 1966, the motor is an H20 1600.  
> 1) Is TDC the large mark on the pulley? (When viewed from the front, 
> with the pulley set with the marks on top, the other marks would be to 
> the right of the largest mark.) 
>  
> 2) Is the "pointer" the line that's part of the timing chain cover?  
> 3) When the car is set at TDC, should the rotor be pointed at the #1 
> cylinder? 
>  
> 4) At that position, should the points be open? 
>  
> Thanks guys. This is driving me NUTS. I'm literally steps away from 
> getting the car to go to Solvang, but at this pace it may not happen... 
>  
> Eddie 
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Sun Apr 19 21:35:39 2009
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:35:39 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] It won't start....
In-Reply-To: <49EBEBD0.2050508@socal.rr.com>
References: <49EBD512.8030808@socal.rr.com>
	<8CB8F785AA5A806-E40-4C0B@MBLK-M04.sysops.aol.com>
	<49EBEBD0.2050508@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c9c169$13c34160$3b49c420$@net>

Check to make sure that both valves are closed on cylinder #1 when the rotor
is pointing at plug wire #1. If they are open, that means the distributor
has been installed 180 degrees out.

The quick fix to check that would be to switch all the spark plug wires to
the opposite posts and try starting it.

Gordon Glasgow
-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eddie
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 8:28 PM
To: ljordan704 at netscape.net
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] It won't start....

YUP.  All of that is done.

As I'm looking at this thing I'm starting to think perhaps the guy who 
built the motor may have put something in off a tooth....  It just 
doesn't seem right.

Eddie

ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote:
> Eddie,
> Until the cavalry shows.....
> 1Yes large mark all the way to the left as you face the pulley 2 My 
> car has a pointer on it not sure how that corresponds 3 rotor should 
> be pointing to wire that goes to #1 spark plug 4 I don't have points 
> sorry. If you left the key on they can byrn, from what I remember.
> Your coil and condenser should be new. Be sure your cap wires are 
> correct  for firing order. Also if dizzy is installed 180 deg out your 
> #1 wire at cap will be different.
> Good luck
> Linda
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
> To: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 6:51 pm
> Subject: [Roadsters] It won't start....
>
> Ok, so it's wired up, the starter turns, fuel is at the carbs, I have 
> spark at the distributor, but the car won't start.  
> I've got a couple of questions that the darn manual isn't clear about. 
>  
> My car is a 1966, the motor is an H20 1600.  
> 1) Is TDC the large mark on the pulley? (When viewed from the front, 
> with the pulley set with the marks on top, the other marks would be to 
> the right of the largest mark.) 
>  
> 2) Is the "pointer" the line that's part of the timing chain cover?  
> 3) When the car is set at TDC, should the rotor be pointed at the #1 
> cylinder? 
>  
> 4) At that position, should the points be open? 
>  
> Thanks guys. This is driving me NUTS. I'm literally steps away from 
> getting the car to go to Solvang, but at this pace it may not happen... 
>  
> Eddie 
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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Sun Apr 19 21:36:15 2009
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 23:36:15 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] FW:  Filler hose
Message-ID: <A3D5FD3A56C447B98712FFC30CBB929A@delled48909442>

Local Napa should have it, is 2" so loose the clamp won't make it up?
Sounds silly, but I would guess almost everyone who hasn't replaced their
hose probably should, so the remainder of the 3 feet would probably sell.
Bring it to Solvang, I'll take a foot, glad to pay a third!!

Gates lists the proper part,  1 7/8", 3 foot lengths.  www.Gates.com

Product ID
 46633603
 Part #
 23930
 Product Description
 23930 1-7/8" X3FT FUEL FILL
 UPC
 072053062663

Dave Brisco

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary and Cindy Ault [mailto:aultgc at att.net]
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:35 AM
To: Steve Ehlers; eddietude at socal.rr.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Filler hose

In addition of the possiblility of purchase from Nissan, both Dean
(datsunparts.com) and Dann (datsunroadster.com) have the part.**  Prices
different, but both reasonable.  It is a waste of time to agonize about
alternatives.

Gary

** In fairness to both Dann and Dean (in alphabetical order), I will try to
alternate which I mention first.  Both are reliable suppliers.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Ehlers" <stevenehlers at charter.net>
To: <eddietude at socal.rr.com>; <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Filler hose


> Hey Eddie,
> This part has been available from Nissan . You have to order but it will
> be at your local dealer to pickup . Unless you use
> one of the Roadster parts vendors and have it shipped to your door . Don't

> assume that you can get any and all your parts after market
> or Locally . If you find something ,it's usually crap or junk .Do as you
> wish ,but are you trying to make a nice ,reliable ,and safe car ,
> or just band aid your car together ?
> Good Luck,
> Steve
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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Sun Apr 19 21:52:44 2009
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 23:52:44 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] It won't start....
In-Reply-To: <49EBD512.8030808@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <4E8BC0B26523426B81F7A3FB873A20E4@delled48909442>

Yes to all, but one tricky part...the timing mark is at TDC for # 1 front or
#4 rear cylinder depending on where the valves are. And which way the
distributor is installed.

With the valve cover off, set the timing to tdc, both valves on #1 should be
closed. (rocker arms slightly loose)  If one or both is open, then rotate
the motor 1 full turn, (counterclockwise from the front of the car looking
at the motor) and stop at the TDC mark again..if both valves are closed, you
are now on #1 TDC.  Verify that the rotor is pointing at your #1 plug wire.
If it is, you're done.  Set the timing with a light once it runs.

 If it's not, and is 180 deg off, either move the wires to correspond to the
present position, or you need to remove the distributor, remove the drive
tang, rotate it 180 deg and reinstall, then fire it up.


Good luck, call if you're stuck

Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Eddie [mailto:eddietude at socal.rr.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:51 PM
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: [Roadsters] It won't start....

Ok, so it's wired up, the starter turns, fuel is at the carbs, I have
spark at the distributor, but the car won't start.

I've got a couple of questions that the darn manual isn't clear about.

My car is a 1966, the motor is an H20 1600.

1) Is TDC the large mark on the pulley?  (When viewed from the front,
with the pulley set with the marks on top, the other marks would be to
the right of the largest mark.)

2) Is the "pointer" the line that's part of the timing chain cover?

3) When the car is set at TDC, should the rotor be pointed at the #1
cylinder?

4) At that position, should the points be open?

Thanks guys.  This is driving me NUTS.  I'm literally steps away from
getting the car to go to Solvang, but at this pace it may not happen...

Eddie

From aultgc at att.net  Sun Apr 19 22:20:12 2009
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 23:20:12 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] It won't start....
References: <49EBD512.8030808@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <4D9C30941C8F4157BC4D80005DF29732@gaxp1>

Eddie,

1.  Yes.
2.  Don't know about an H20.  On the R16 there is a raised "line" cast into 
the timing case; on the U20, there is a pointer cast into the timing case 
cover.
3.  At the Number One terminal on the distributor, yes.
4.  Yes.  Opening the points is what causes the spark.

That said, in a stock configuration. Number One terminal on the distributor 
is at about the 10 o'clock position when viewed from the passenger side. 
The rotor turns counter-clockwise, one-quarter turn per half a crankshaft 
revolution.  The firing order is 1-3-4-2.

As Gordon pointed out, if the distributor drive gear is installed 180 
degrees out of phase, or if the cam in the distributor is 180 degrees out of 
phase, the car will not fire.  If this is the case, swap the 1 and 4 plug 
wires, and the 3 and 2 plug wires, and the engine should fire.  The U20 
distributor has two different-size advance springs (in non-smog 
configuration).  The heaver spring with the squared-off end connects to the 
distributor weight whose pin does into the longer slot in the cam.  I have 
no idea what an R16 or H20 distributor spring arrangement looks like, and 
the Nissan shop manual doesn't show the R16 arrangement as it does the U20 
arrangement.

I hope that helps.

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 8:51 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] It won't start....


> Ok, so it's wired up, the starter turns, fuel is at the carbs, I have 
> spark at the distributor, but the car won't start.
> I've got a couple of questions that the darn manual isn't clear about.
>
> My car is a 1966, the motor is an H20 1600.
> 1) Is TDC the large mark on the pulley?  (When viewed from the front, with 
> the pulley set with the marks on top, the other marks would be to the 
> right of the largest mark.)
>
> 2) Is the "pointer" the line that's part of the timing chain cover?
> 3) When the car is set at TDC, should the rotor be pointed at the #1 
> cylinder?
>
> 4) At that position, should the points be open?
>
> Thanks guys.  This is driving me NUTS.  I'm literally steps away from 
> getting the car to go to Solvang, but at this pace it may not happen...
>
> Eddie
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From jeffzster at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 19 22:50:11 2009
From: jeffzster at yahoo.com (Jeff Torres)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 21:50:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Last day For Solvang Registration By Mail
Message-ID: <791522.89205.qm@web110405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Attention Everyone!!!!!!
 
Monday April 20th will be the last day I accept mail in registrations for the
Solvang Show. After this date, I will not be able to gaurantee clothing
merchandise or banquet tix. It will be first come first serve Friday the 24th
and Saturday the day of the show. We will be working all this week getting
final registration packets together. Thanks for everyone's help..See you
Thursday night to all of you arriving early. We will be staying at the Motel 6
in Buellton to all who want to stop by and say hi.
 
Jeff T.
 
WWW.SOLVANGSHOW.COM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

From vulforge at aol.com  Mon Apr 20 09:05:00 2009
From: vulforge at aol.com (vulforge at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:05:00 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 30 roadsters
Message-ID: <8CB8FE0827BE566-450-2D2@webmail-mh16.sysops.aol.com>

Didn't someone post on here recently looking for a Roadster parts business?? Seems a great way to start!


Russell Criswell
Vulcan's Forge
3936 Broadway
Kansas City, MO
64111

816-931-6303
816-931-9378 fax
877-531-1046 toll-free
www.vulcans-forge.com

From davesmbox at aol.com  Mon Apr 20 13:51:20 2009
From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:51:20 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 30 roadsters
In-Reply-To: <8CB8FE0827BE566-450-2D2@webmail-mh16.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CB8FE0827BE566-450-2D2@webmail-mh16.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CB900882C782A2-774-152@webmail-stg-d07.sysops.aol.com>

Craig,
If you build it they will come.
The thirty,They are calling you.
LOL
Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: vulforge at aol.com
To: 
Sent: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:05 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 30 roadsters



Didn't someone post on here recently looking for a Roadster parts business?? 
Seems a great way to start!


Russell Criswell
Vulcan's Forge
3936 Broadway
Kansas City, MO
64111

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From tom at datsun2000.com  Mon Apr 20 14:08:09 2009
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:08:09 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OOPS
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGKEBKDHAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

Daryl,

Oliver is correct about removing the negative terminal first.  The chance of
shorting the battery is almost eliminated.

There is another reason that is not so important in most of our roadsters.
Modern cars have computers and radio equipment that is always on to some
degree.  If you connect or remove either battery terminal there will be a
small spark as this equipment is turned on or off.

When you disconnect the positive terminal first the spark produces voltage
spikes that could damage sensitive electronics (and your wallet).  When you
disconnect the negative terminal first the battery acts like a big spike
filter and the voltage spikes don't reach the various electronic components
that are always on.

The rule is: always disconnect the negative terminal first, and reconnect it
last.

As to lucky.  You bet I was very lucky.  I was actually leaning over the
battery when it exploded.  Almost all of the acid went down into an oversize
rubber tray the battery sits in to protect the sheet metal where the battery
sits.  Only a few drops actually reached my skin and glasses.  The shirt has
several small holes in it now as well.  It was a loose fitting shirt and
none of the acid reached my chest.  The car was rolled out of the garage and
cleaned with engine cleaner and lots of water right after I finished washing
myself off first.

Over the years my glasses have kept many things out of my eyes.  You would
have a hard time selling me on contact lenses.  This was just one more
example to remember.

http://www.datsun2000.com/battery.htm

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland


On 4/19/2009 7:39:07 PM, Daryl Smith (drlsmith at dccnet.com) wrote:
> I think
> you're lucky it blew out the side and not more straight up! Glad you
> were not injured.
> Interesting to note that when I was growing up around and working on cars
I
> was always taught to remove the cable from the positive post of the
battery.
> It seems now that it is always made a point to remove the NEGATIVE post
> first.
> I'm
> wondering if I was taught wrong years ago, or is this something that has
> crept in with all the computers and electronics in cars?
>
> Daryl
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" <tom at datsun2000.com>
>
>
> > What might happen when you don't disconnect the negative lead of the
> > battery
> > when you are working on your car?
> >
> > Nothing....... usually
> >
> > http://www.datsun2000.com/battery.htm
> >
> > But when something does happen it is dramatic, and very hard on the
ears.
> > I
> > accidentally touched the positive pole with a grounded ratchet handle
and
> > the battery exploded.  Fortunately I did not get much acid on me and it
> > was
> > easily washed off.  I suspect it was only dumb luck that my glasses
caught
> > a
> > few small dots and nothing got into my eyes.

From info at sportsimports.ca  Mon Apr 20 12:43:25 2009
From: info at sportsimports.ca (Ross Mullen / Sports Imports)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:43:25 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] sports imports new email address
Message-ID: <E63B0159-AEC7-45E5-8C7C-4C7A0D32767C@sportsimports.ca>

We have a new email address:

ross.sportsimports at gmail.com

Ross
sports imports
604-538-5615

From pat at hornesystemstx.com  Mon Apr 20 15:58:15 2009
From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:58:15 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] It won't start....
In-Reply-To: <49EBEBD0.2050508@socal.rr.com>
References: <49EBD512.8030808@socal.rr.com>
	<8CB8F785AA5A806-E40-4C0B@MBLK-M04.sysops.aol.com>
	<49EBEBD0.2050508@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <49ECEFF7.3050305@hornesystemstx.com>

What kind of compression do you have? If the cam is out of time it the 
compression will be lower than normal.

Make sure the distributor is pointing to #1 when the valves on #1` are 
closed.

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Eddie, On 4/19/2009 10:28 PM:
> YUP.  All of that is done.
>
> As I'm looking at this thing I'm starting to think perhaps the guy who 
> built the motor may have put something in off a tooth....  It just 
> doesn't seem right.
>
> Eddie
>
> ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote:
>> Eddie,
>> Until the cavalry shows.....
>> 1Yes large mark all the way to the left as you face the pulley 2 My 
>> car has a pointer on it not sure how that corresponds 3 rotor should 
>> be pointing to wire that goes to #1 spark plug 4 I don't have points 
>> sorry. If you left the key on they can byrn, from what I remember.
>> Your coil and condenser should be new. Be sure your cap wires are 
>> correct  for firing order. Also if dizzy is installed 180 deg out 
>> your #1 wire at cap will be different.
>> Good luck
>> Linda
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
>> To: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 6:51 pm
>> Subject: [Roadsters] It won't start....
>>
>> Ok, so it's wired up, the starter turns, fuel is at the carbs, I have 
>> spark at the distributor, but the car won't start.  I've got a couple 
>> of questions that the darn manual isn't clear about.  
>> My car is a 1966, the motor is an H20 1600.  1) Is TDC the large mark 
>> on the pulley? (When viewed from the front, with the pulley set with 
>> the marks on top, the other marks would be to the right of the 
>> largest mark.)  
>> 2) Is the "pointer" the line that's part of the timing chain cover?  
>> 3) When the car is set at TDC, should the rotor be pointed at the #1 
>> cylinder?  
>> 4) At that position, should the points be open?  
>> Thanks guys. This is driving me NUTS. I'm literally steps away from 
>> getting the car to go to Solvang, but at this pace it may not 
>> happen...  
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From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Mon Apr 20 19:20:56 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:20:56 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] IT'S ALIVE!!!!!
Message-ID: <49ED1F78.4030407@socal.rr.com>

Hey all,

After several long conversations with Dave Brisco, we figured out the 
issues. 

#1 was that the distributor drive shaft was installed slightly off...

Then there were a number of other little "oddities" that Dave knew of...

Once they were straightened out, it fired right up, and MAN DOES THAT 
BABY PURR!!!!!

Tonight I'm going to tighten everything up.

Next stop, seats

Then to the Muffler shop.

I could make it to Solvang with this thing after all!  (But I won't have 
a top by then.  I guess I'll tarp it at night...)

Eddie

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Mon Apr 20 19:26:34 2009
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:26:34 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] IT'S ALIVE!!!!!
In-Reply-To: <49ED1F78.4030407@socal.rr.com>
References: <49ED1F78.4030407@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <8CB903757894FA3-11E0-15B3@WEBMAIL-DY35.sysops.aol.com>

 So share with the List, so everybody learns, what were the "oddities"?

Linda


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
To: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 6:20 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] IT'S ALIVE!!!!!









Hey all,?
?

After several long conversations with Dave Brisco, we figured out the 
issues. ?

#1 was that the distributor drive shaft was installed slightly off...?
?

Then there were a number of other little "oddities" that Dave knew of...?
?

Once they were straightened out, it fired right up, and MAN DOES THAT 
BABY PURR!!!!!?
?

Tonight I'm going to tighten everything up.?
?

Next stop, seats?
?

Then to the Muffler shop.?
?

I could make it to Solvang with this thing after all!  (But I won't have 
a top by then.  I guess I'll tarp it at night...)?
?

Eddie?

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From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Tue Apr 21 14:00:37 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:00:37 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Keith Williams...
Message-ID: <49EE25E5.20008@socal.rr.com>

Hi,

I'm trying to get a hold of Keith, but AOL has shut down their entire 
website setup he was on.

That site had the directions for syncing the carbs, and of course, went 
I went there to print up the info, it was gone along with the site!  
Darn AOL! 

Anyone have his contact info?  Thanks.

Eddie

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Tue Apr 21 14:09:33 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:09:33 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Nevermind...
Message-ID: <49EE27FD.7070206@socal.rr.com>

Nevermind I found the carb adjusting info...

From tputland at charter.net  Wed Apr 22 08:54:35 2009
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 7:54:35 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] What's it worth??
Message-ID: <20090422105435.P7FT8.1339130.root@mp17>

A 68 1600 that "ran when parked" about 10 years ago. No major bondo, decent paint, no obvious rust, just about 100% there. Current owner knows Roadsters very well and says it should be able to be made to run with just the basics after sitting for this amount of time: new fluids all around, plugs, wires, gas tank cleaning, carb refresh, etc.

What do you all think?

Thanks

Tim

From GCallahan at prodigy.net  Wed Apr 22 09:32:05 2009
From: GCallahan at prodigy.net (Gary Callahan)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:32:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Gauge Sending Unit
Message-ID: <642354.33042.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Last Friday I made a 600 mile R/T roadtrip to buy a beautiful 1968 Datsum "Fairlady" Roadster.  The trip home was beautiful top-down down driving weather and I loved every minute of it.  I have a number of questions regarding the car, but the first in my priority.  My fuel gauge does not work and it has been determined to be the sending unit.  My mechanic cannot seem to find one so I thought I would ask all of you.

Does anyone have a resource where I might accquire a fuel gauge sending unit for a '68 Datsun 1600?


Gary 

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From speeddemonrs at cox.net  Wed Apr 22 09:32:52 2009
From: speeddemonrs at cox.net (speeddemonrs at cox.net)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:32:52 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] What's it worth??
In-Reply-To: <20090422105435.P7FT8.1339130.root@mp17>
Message-ID: <20090422113252.PNTNA.2344.imail@fed1rmwml39>

Hi Tim - 

I bought a '66 that "ran when parked" for about 4-5 years. I was truely surprised when I CLEANED the plugs (not replaced), emptied the gas tank and lines (not flushed the tank), I did change the oil and lubed the cylindars prior to trying to start. and I could not believe it that with little else, she started right up!
 
"Value" is a perception - whats it worth to you? Things are only worth what people are willing to pay for them.
 
Happy motoring ~
 
Robb
'66 SPL311



---- Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote: 
A 68 1600 that "ran when parked" about 10 years ago. No major bondo, decent paint, no obvious rust, just about 100% there. Current owner knows Roadsters very well and says it should be able to be made to run with just the basics after sitting for this amount of time: new fluids all around, plugs, wires, gas tank cleaning, carb refresh, etc.

What do you all think?

Thanks

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From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Wed Apr 22 09:43:39 2009
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (nmleeds at mindspring.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:43:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] What's it worth??
Message-ID: <15393024.1240415019452.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

There's a big difference between "ran when parked" and "runs now."  If you seller is so confident that new fluids, plugs, gas tank cleaning, and tinkering with the carb will get it running why don't you suggest that you would pay $1,500 - $2,500 (depending on condition) for it "as is" or $2,500 - $5,000 for it running.  

The "refresh" can end up being a lot more expensive then you would expect, particularly if the car was not carefully stored.  Here are some of the questions I'd ask: 1) was the engine filled with oil (all the way up to the top of the valve cover) when parked -- if not, take off the valve cover and check for rust in the head -- bad rust and you'll need a rebuild; 2) was it stored on blocks or on the grounds -- if stored on the ground you can expect that you'll need to attend to the shocks, tires, and possibly other suspension parts 3) was it stored in a animal friendly, or unfriendly environment -- mice love wires -- an "open field" storage could have turned the car into the home for destructive menagerie of wire, cushion, and vinyl and leather eating creatures.

I had a car once with mice living in the doors (yep, you can imagine that cleaning job) wires eaten, a rusty cam and every rubber part of the suspension either hardened or powdered.  A "freshen up" didn't even begin to cover it.



-----Original Message-----
>From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
>Sent: Apr 22, 2009 10:54 AM
>To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Roadsters] What's it worth??
>
>A 68 1600 that "ran when parked" about 10 years ago. No major bondo, decent paint, no obvious rust, just about 100% there. Current owner knows Roadsters very well and says it should be able to be made to run with just the basics after sitting for this amount of time: new fluids all around, plugs, wires, gas tank cleaning, carb refresh, etc.
>
>What do you all think?
>
>Thanks
>
>Tim
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From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Wed Apr 22 09:57:18 2009
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:57:18 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Gauge Sending Unit
In-Reply-To: <642354.33042.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <642354.33042.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2faaebf80904220857l9f3262g841aa8a5ce140186@mail.gmail.com>

I'm fairly sure Dean <datsunparts.com> has them. Some of the other
vendors might also. Check the vendors list on <www.311s.org>.

HTH,
Ron

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Gary Callahan <GCallahan at prodigy.net>
wrote:
> Last Friday I made a 600 mile R/T roadtrip to buy a beautiful 1968 Datsum
"Fairlady" Roadster. B The trip home was beautiful top-down down driving
weather and I loved every minute of it. B I have a number of questions
regarding the car, but the first in my priority. B My fuel gauge does not work
and it has been determined to be the sending unit. B My mechanic cannot seem
to find one so I thought I would ask all of you.
>
> Does anyone have a resource where I might accquire a fuel gauge sending unit
for a '68 Datsun 1600?
>
>
> Gary
>
> Sent from a Luddite's new iPhone!
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From aybreeze at comcast.net  Wed Apr 22 09:58:04 2009
From: aybreeze at comcast.net (aybreeze at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 15:58:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Value
Message-ID: <1180974568.169891240415884615.JavaMail.root@sz0038a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

I have had my 68 Roadster listed in old car trader for $12,000

had a few offers around $10,000 early B last yearB !

B With the current climate, but mostly my lack of storage space I placed the
car on Ebay and sold it to some one who already had a 1600

My 2000 was running and driving when I purchasedB B  it but with

replacing perishables (rubber components)B which in turn whilst apart led toB 
new bottom ball joints and top shafts and bushings

all labour at $70.00 per hour

B plus Brake masters and cylinder rebuildsB  and new vinyl on centre consul
plus repaint on floor pansB ETC

B soon spent $3000 +

personally when I buy any car not running

I have to assume the worst and price accordinglyB 

B It worth what the parts body shell and title are worth

and of course Datun roadsters have Nostalgic value

we tent to love them !



Keep smiling
B B  B  B  Arthur

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Wed Apr 22 10:01:18 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:01:18 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] What's it worth??
In-Reply-To: <15393024.1240415019452.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <15393024.1240415019452.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <49EF3F4E.2040808@socal.rr.com>

Add to that if the gas tank wasn't properly stored, I guarantee it's a 
complete rust job inside.

You need a new tank, (good luck finding that!)  OR, spend some bucks to 
get it de-rusted. 

Eddie

nmleeds at mindspring.com wrote:
> There's a big difference between "ran when parked" and "runs now."  If you seller is so confident that new fluids, plugs, gas tank cleaning, and tinkering with the carb will get it running why don't you suggest that you would pay $1,500 - $2,500 (depending on condition) for it "as is" or $2,500 - $5,000 for it running.  
>
> The "refresh" can end up being a lot more expensive then you would expect, particularly if the car was not carefully stored.  Here are some of the questions I'd ask: 1) was the engine filled with oil (all the way up to the top of the valve cover) when parked -- if not, take off the valve cover and check for rust in the head -- bad rust and you'll need a rebuild; 2) was it stored on blocks or on the grounds -- if stored on the ground you can expect that you'll need to attend to the shocks, tires, and possibly other suspension parts 3) was it stored in a animal friendly, or unfriendly environment -- mice love wires -- an "open field" storage could have turned the car into the home for destructive menagerie of wire, cushion, and vinyl and leather eating creatures.
>
> I had a car once with mice living in the doors (yep, you can imagine that cleaning job) wires eaten, a rusty cam and every rubber part of the suspension either hardened or powdered.  A "freshen up" didn't even begin to cover it.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>   
>> From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
>> Sent: Apr 22, 2009 10:54 AM
>> To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: [Roadsters] What's it worth??
>>
>> A 68 1600 that "ran when parked" about 10 years ago. No major bondo, decent paint, no obvious rust, just about 100% there. Current owner knows Roadsters very well and says it should be able to be made to run with just the basics after sitting for this amount of time: new fluids all around, plugs, wires, gas tank cleaning, carb refresh, etc.
>>
>> What do you all think?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Tim
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From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Wed Apr 22 10:02:52 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:02:52 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] What's it worth??
In-Reply-To: <20090422105435.P7FT8.1339130.root@mp17>
References: <20090422105435.P7FT8.1339130.root@mp17>
Message-ID: <49EF3FAC.8010407@socal.rr.com>

"Current owner knows Roadsters very well and says it should be able to be made to run with just the basics after sitting for this amount of time:"

Then tell him to do it and you'll gladly pay a higher price...

I love that somment, 

"It SHOULD be able to make run with just a few things...."

Right....  Heard that before...

Eddie




Tim wrote:
> A 68 1600 that "ran when parked" about 10 years ago. No major bondo, decent paint, no obvious rust, just about 100% there. Current owner knows Roadsters very well and says it should be able to be made to run with just the basics after sitting for this amount of time: new fluids all around, plugs, wires, gas tank cleaning, carb refresh, etc.
>
> What do you all think?
>
> Thanks
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From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Wed Apr 22 10:38:24 2009
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:38:24 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] What's it worth??
References: <20090422105435.P7FT8.1339130.root@mp17>
Message-ID: <986F6D4C385B4DACABFD1BBBE39B2B65@Daryl>

"A 68 1600 that "ran when parked" about 10 years ago."
Tires will need to be replaced.
You MAY need all new hydraulics for the brakes and clutch. Inspect very 
carefully here.
What condition are the disks and drums in?
Inspect shock shafts for rust.
Check rubber boots on all suspension parts.
Any signs of head gasket leaks?
Have you done a compression test?
How much of the work are you going to do?

There is usually a huge difference in $$$$ between being "made to run" and 
"drive it".........

That being said, mechanical is usually cheaper than bodywork, so if it's got 
a good solid body and is 99% complete, you're further ahead than a lot of 
roadster owners.

Daryl


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>


>A 68 1600 that "ran when parked" about 10 years ago. No major bondo, decent 
>paint, no obvious rust, just about 100% there. Current owner knows 
>Roadsters very well and says it should be able to be made to run with just 
>the basics after sitting for this amount of time: new fluids all around, 
>plugs, wires, gas tank cleaning, carb refresh, etc.
>
> What do you all think?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tim 

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Wed Apr 22 10:42:47 2009
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:42:47 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] What's it worth??
References: <20090422113252.PNTNA.2344.imail@fed1rmwml39>
Message-ID: <001901c9c369$6ff9bcf0$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local>

it all depends.

i just picked up a 1952 MGTD that had been sitting in a garage for 30 years, 
give or take.  last inspection sticker is 1977.  replaced all fluids, hooked 
up an auxilliary gas tank, blew out the gas lines, and it ran.  electric 
fuel pump, after being blown out also worked.  did not even crack the plugs, 
although i really should have put oil in the cylinders first. have not 
addressed the gas tank yet, but there was varnish (haha) in it and sludge in 
the bottom.

so it depends.  i picked up a 69 TR6 about a year ago that had been under a 
tarp outside for 10  years.  did a little more work, but it ran as well. 
gas tank has numerous rust holes.

picked up a 70's pickup a while back that had sat in a carport for years. 
spent a month trying to manually move the crankshaft, but could not.  a 
friend filled the engine with oil for about 3 months and finally was able to 
turn it.

so, ran  when parked.  where? condition?  and, do you really believe that it 
was running?  or was it parked because it broke?

just remember, engine repairs are expensive.  body repairs are really 
expensive. 

From aultgc at att.net  Wed Apr 22 18:49:26 2009
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:49:26 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Gauge Sending Unit
References: <642354.33042.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<2faaebf80904220857l9f3262g841aa8a5ce140186@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4291371833F7432AAF65A9E8B6FA0787@gaxp1>

Dean does have them, and so does Dann at Rallye, al least according to their 
websites.  Pretty pricey, though.

Gary
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ronnie Day" <ronnie.day at gmail.com>
To: "Gary Callahan" <GCallahan at prodigy.net>; "Roadster List" 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel Gauge Sending Unit


> I'm fairly sure Dean <datsunparts.com> has them. Some of the other
> vendors might also. Check the vendors list on <www.311s.org>.
>
> HTH,
> Ron
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Gary Callahan <GCallahan at prodigy.net>
> wrote:
>> Last Friday I made a 600 mile R/T roadtrip to buy a beautiful 1968 Datsum
> "Fairlady" Roadster. B The trip home was beautiful top-down down driving
> weather and I loved every minute of it. B I have a number of questions
> regarding the car, but the first in my priority. B My fuel gauge does not 
> work
> and it has been determined to be the sending unit. B My mechanic cannot 
> seem
> to find one so I thought I would ask all of you.
>>
>> Does anyone have a resource where I might accquire a fuel gauge sending 
>> unit
> for a '68 Datsun 1600?
>>
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> Sent from a Luddite's new iPhone!
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From oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com  Wed Apr 22 19:34:58 2009
From: oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com (Matthew Cox)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:34:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Free Chassis in AZ
Message-ID: <312150.54627.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hey everyone - As it says, free chassis in Arizona. It's from a '66 roadster.
It is completely stripped and has no damage or bends. If you want it, just let
me know by the weekend, otherwise it's going to scrap.
 
If anyone outside of AZ wants a chunk off of it, let me know and I will cut it
off and send it to you for cost of shipping. AZ people who want the whole
thing get first dibs...
 
Thanks!

Mattew in AZ...

From JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net  Wed Apr 22 20:26:35 2009
From: JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net (JohnnyRoadster)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:26:35 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] general dash pad question
Message-ID: <7D55469D877F4308A3913363CE788F4D@JohnLaptop>

When others have replaced the dash pad/cover, has anyone ever had rattles or
squeaks?  I have seen rubber and foam under some other cars to prevent this.
I was wondering if some have used this on the roadster.

I started installing the dash itself today, but did not get too far.  Too many
wires!  Luckily I took some pics before I tore it apart to help me, but I did
not have them with me.  I did have the wiring diagram, but was still confused
on some.  I had alot of the screws snap, so I had to replace most of the
square nuts that will be used to screw the dash and pad on later.  Photos will
come soon.

SPL311-19356
http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster
http://united2311ster.googlepages.com/

From aultgc at att.net  Wed Apr 22 21:48:38 2009
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:48:38 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] SU Carburetor Tools
Message-ID: <C6B12C2BAAEC4FC1A7D887FE6FD8AA6F@gaxp1>

Years ago, I bought a set of SU carburetor synchronizing and adjustment tools.
It is the sort of thing one doesn't often need, but, when needed, there is no
substitute.  In particular, there is a jet centering tool.  It is used to
center the nozzles in their sleeves, so the needles will drop without
contacting the nozzles.  In addition, I think the mechanical-type balancing
tools will prove more useful for balancing 1600 carbs at higher speeds (~2000
rpm) than a UniSyn, because they provide a continuous indication.  To me, 1600
carbs are a real PITA to balance above idle because of the twin turnbuckles
which are involved, in contrast to the 2000 SUs which feature a high-speed
balancing screw.

Out of curiosity, I went looking to see if such a set is still available, and
found that it is, at www.mossmotors.com.  Part Number 386-300, $24.95.  They
also often the UniSyn flow meter-type synchronizing tool, Part Number 386-200,
for $31.95.  I consider the UniSyn to be indispensable.

FWIW.

Gary

From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com  Thu Apr 23 16:30:56 2009
From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:30:56 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Jon Frampton?
Message-ID: <C6163A30.15CB7%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>

Sorry for the bandwith....


Jon- I misplaced your email address re my speedometer. I was going to send
it to you this winter. Guess that didn't happen. Still want to though.

Please send me a pmail.

Thanks,
Greg
SRL31100494

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Thu Apr 23 19:18:15 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:18:15 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
Message-ID: <49F11357.9000407@socal.rr.com>

Hi all,

I've checked the 311s site, and there is some info on using a 510 master 
cylinder in the wiki section.  Someone else talked about using a 280Z 
master cylinder as well.

Since I'm not comfortable with the single reservoir system, can anyone 
tell me what master cylinders work?

Are those the only two?

What about clearance issues? 

Thanks.

Eddie

From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net  Thu Apr 23 20:47:59 2009
From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:47:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
Message-ID: <24159884.1240541280016.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Eddie, I had a 510 master in my 2000, worked fine until I mounted the Mikuni carbs, then the clearance became an issue.  The 510 master is longer than the roadster master and I was unable to install that way.  I had to remove the 510 master and replace it with a roadster master.  Other than that, the 510 master worked great.  I am not aware of any other clearance issues.  Good luck, Dewey 



-----Original Message-----
>From: Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
>Sent: Apr 23, 2009 9:18 PM
>To: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
>
>Hi all,
>
>I've checked the 311s site, and there is some info on using a 510 master 
>cylinder in the wiki section.  Someone else talked about using a 280Z 
>master cylinder as well.
>
>Since I'm not comfortable with the single reservoir system, can anyone 
>tell me what master cylinders work?
>
>Are those the only two?
>
>What about clearance issues? 
>
>Thanks.
>
>Eddie
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From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Thu Apr 23 22:31:40 2009
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:31:40 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
References: <49F11357.9000407@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <7A519C944E69428CA8500AAE285C8A98@Daryl>

What year car Eddie?
On the early cars, '66-'67 1600s, there is no room for a dual master 
cylinder.
You will have the choice of body work to recess the master like the later 
cars, or go to an aftermarket twin single mastercylinder set like you see in 
some racecars.

Daryl

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>

> Hi all,
>
> I've checked the 311s site, and there is some info on using a 510 master 
> cylinder in the wiki section.  Someone else talked about using a 280Z 
> master cylinder as well.
>
> Since I'm not comfortable with the single reservoir system, can anyone 
> tell me what master cylinders work?
>
> Are those the only two?
>
> What about clearance issues?
> Thanks.
>
> Eddie

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Thu Apr 23 23:44:34 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:44:34 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
In-Reply-To: <7A519C944E69428CA8500AAE285C8A98@Daryl>
References: <49F11357.9000407@socal.rr.com>
	<7A519C944E69428CA8500AAE285C8A98@Daryl>
Message-ID: <49F151C2.3010200@socal.rr.com>

Daryl,

It's a 1966.

Would the dual cylinder fit if the air cleaner was modified? 

Also, what aftermarket twin single master cylinder set are you talking 
about?

Thanks.

Eddie

Daryl Smith wrote:
> What year car Eddie?
> On the early cars, '66-'67 1600s, there is no room for a dual master 
> cylinder.
> You will have the choice of body work to recess the master like the 
> later cars, or go to an aftermarket twin single mastercylinder set 
> like you see in some racecars.
>
> Daryl
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've checked the 311s site, and there is some info on using a 510 
>> master cylinder in the wiki section.  Someone else talked about using 
>> a 280Z master cylinder as well.
>>
>> Since I'm not comfortable with the single reservoir system, can 
>> anyone tell me what master cylinders work?
>>
>> Are those the only two?
>>
>> What about clearance issues?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Eddie

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Fri Apr 24 08:01:48 2009
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:01:48 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
Message-ID: <ca0.4f99953e.3723204c@aol.com>

One issue with the 510 cylinder is that it has metric threads on the lines. 
 The roadsters have SAE lines. The lines will screw in but the threads are  
hanging on by the tips only. A good tightening with a wrench or a good 
stomp on  the brakes and it can come loose. 
 
keith
 
In a message dated 4/23/2009 10:45:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
eddietude at socal.rr.com writes:

Daryl,

It's a 1966.

Would the dual cylinder fit if the  air cleaner was modified? 

Also, what aftermarket twin single master  cylinder set are you talking  
about?

Thanks.

Eddie

Daryl Smith wrote:
> What  year car Eddie?
> On the early cars, '66-'67 1600s, there is no room for  a dual master 
> cylinder.
> You will have the choice of body work  to recess the master like the 
> later cars, or go to an aftermarket  twin single mastercylinder set 
> like you see in some  racecars.
>
> Daryl




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From barterdude at comcast.net  Fri Apr 24 08:03:17 2009
From: barterdude at comcast.net (barterdude)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:03:17 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] my son's roadster clutching
Message-ID: <CAFC1570DC4C4E439BFA4C6E3E6D1ABE@XPLaptop>

Okay - new rebuilt transmission, new clutch, son is still complaining of
hard shifting even after bleeding the clutch slave cylinder.  Do we have to
replace both master and slave or which would be the most likely candidate if
only one?

 

Cheers -- Gary Lasater

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Apr 24 08:59:30 2009
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:59:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
In-Reply-To: <1895213897.528401240585069384.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <708566675.529181240585170638.JavaMail.root@sz0115a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Nope. No room. 

Pete "not sweating a single reservoir on my '66" 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com> 
To: "Daryl Smith" <drlsmith at dccnet.com> 
Cc: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 10:44:34 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives 

Daryl, 

It's a 1966. 

Would the dual cylinder fit if the air cleaner was modified? 

Also, what aftermarket twin single master cylinder set are you talking 
about? 

Thanks. 

Eddie 

Daryl Smith wrote: 
> What year car Eddie? 
> On the early cars, '66-'67 1600s, there is no room for a dual master 
> cylinder. 
> You will have the choice of body work to recess the master like the 
> later cars, or go to an aftermarket twin single mastercylinder set 
> like you see in some racecars. 
> 
> Daryl 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com> 
> 
>> Hi all, 
>> 
>> I've checked the 311s site, and there is some info on using a 510 
>> master cylinder in the wiki section. Someone else talked about using 
>> a 280Z master cylinder as well. 
>> 
>> Since I'm not comfortable with the single reservoir system, can 
>> anyone tell me what master cylinders work? 
>> 
>> Are those the only two? 
>> 
>> What about clearance issues? 
>> Thanks. 
>> 
>> Eddie 
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From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Fri Apr 24 10:02:33 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:02:33 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
In-Reply-To: <ca0.4f99953e.3723204c@aol.com>
References: <ca0.4f99953e.3723204c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <49F1E299.8000404@socal.rr.com>

That's why you use a metric to sae adapter.  Not that big of a deal to 
overcome.

Eddie

Keith0alan at aol.com wrote:
> One issue with the 510 cylinder is that it has metric threads on the 
> lines. The roadsters have SAE lines. The lines will screw in but the 
> threads are hanging on by the tips only. A good tightening with a 
> wrench or a good stomp on the brakes and it can come loose.
>  
> keith
>  
> In a message dated 4/23/2009 10:45:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
> eddietude at socal.rr.com writes:
>
>     Daryl,
>
>     It's a 1966.
>
>     Would the dual cylinder fit if the air cleaner was modified?
>
>     Also, what aftermarket twin single master cylinder set are you
>     talking
>     about?
>
>     Thanks.
>
>     Eddie
>
>     Daryl Smith wrote:
>     > What year car Eddie?
>     > On the early cars, '66-'67 1600s, there is no room for a dual
>     master
>     > cylinder.
>     > You will have the choice of body work to recess the master like the
>     > later cars, or go to an aftermarket twin single mastercylinder set
>     > like you see in some racecars.
>     >
>     > Daryl
>
>  
>
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From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Fri Apr 24 11:41:06 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:41:06 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
In-Reply-To: <7A519C944E69428CA8500AAE285C8A98@Daryl>
References: <49F11357.9000407@socal.rr.com>
	<7A519C944E69428CA8500AAE285C8A98@Daryl>
Message-ID: <49F1F9B2.8060902@socal.rr.com>

Daryl,

Care to eloborate on the twin single master cylinder set thing?  Thanks.

Eddie

Daryl Smith wrote:
> What year car Eddie?
> On the early cars, '66-'67 1600s, there is no room for a dual master 
> cylinder.
> You will have the choice of body work to recess the master like the 
> later cars, or go to an aftermarket twin single mastercylinder set 
> like you see in some racecars.
>
> Daryl
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've checked the 311s site, and there is some info on using a 510 
>> master cylinder in the wiki section.  Someone else talked about using 
>> a 280Z master cylinder as well.
>>
>> Since I'm not comfortable with the single reservoir system, can 
>> anyone tell me what master cylinders work?
>>
>> Are those the only two?
>>
>> What about clearance issues?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Eddie

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Fri Apr 24 11:41:53 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:41:53 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
In-Reply-To: <24159884.1240541280016.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <24159884.1240541280016.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <49F1F9E1.3000107@socal.rr.com>

Dewey,

Can you tell me how long that master cylinder is?  Length from the 
firewall out to the farthest point?  Thanks.

Eddie

Dewey Hahlbohm wrote:
> Eddie, I had a 510 master in my 2000, worked fine until I mounted the Mikuni carbs, then the clearance became an issue.  The 510 master is longer than the roadster master and I was unable to install that way.  I had to remove the 510 master and replace it with a roadster master.  Other than that, the 510 master worked great.  I am not aware of any other clearance issues.  Good luck, Dewey 
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>   
>> From: Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
>> Sent: Apr 23, 2009 9:18 PM
>> To: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've checked the 311s site, and there is some info on using a 510 master 
>> cylinder in the wiki section.  Someone else talked about using a 280Z 
>> master cylinder as well.
>>
>> Since I'm not comfortable with the single reservoir system, can anyone 
>> tell me what master cylinders work?
>>
>> Are those the only two?
>>
>> What about clearance issues? 
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Eddie
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From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Fri Apr 24 11:43:05 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:43:05 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] my son's roadster clutching
In-Reply-To: <CAFC1570DC4C4E439BFA4C6E3E6D1ABE@XPLaptop>
References: <CAFC1570DC4C4E439BFA4C6E3E6D1ABE@XPLaptop>
Message-ID: <49F1FA29.3060300@socal.rr.com>

Replace the driver... lol

Ok, just kidding. 

"Hard shifting" meaning exactly what?

Eddie


barterdude wrote:
> Okay - new rebuilt transmission, new clutch, son is still complaining of
> hard shifting even after bleeding the clutch slave cylinder.  Do we have to
> replace both master and slave or which would be the most likely candidate if
> only one?
>
>  
>
> Cheers -- Gary Lasater
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From tputland at charter.net  Fri Apr 24 11:48:10 2009
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:48:10 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
In-Reply-To: <49F1F9E1.3000107@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20090424134810.JG9SC.1511502.root@mp14>

Hey Dewey...don't answer Eddie's question until he tells the list what he meant the other day when he referred to "oddities" found while sorting out his "not starting" issues.  ;-)

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com> wrote: 

=============
Dewey,

Can you tell me how long that master cylinder is?  Length from the 
firewall out to the farthest point?  Thanks.

Eddie

Dewey Hahlbohm wrote:
> Eddie, I had a 510 master in my 2000, worked fine until I mounted the Mikuni carbs, then the clearance became an issue.  The 510 master is longer than the roadster master and I was unable to install that way.  I had to remove the 510 master and replace it with a roadster master.  Other than that, the 510 master worked great.  I am not aware of any other clearance issues.  Good luck, Dewey 
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>   
>> From: Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
>> Sent: Apr 23, 2009 9:18 PM
>> To: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've checked the 311s site, and there is some info on using a 510 master 
>> cylinder in the wiki section.  Someone else talked about using a 280Z 
>> master cylinder as well.
>>
>> Since I'm not comfortable with the single reservoir system, can anyone 
>> tell me what master cylinders work?
>>
>> Are those the only two?
>>
>> What about clearance issues? 
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Eddie
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From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Fri Apr 24 11:53:20 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:53:20 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
In-Reply-To: <20090424134810.JG9SC.1511502.root@mp14>
References: <20090424134810.JG9SC.1511502.root@mp14>
Message-ID: <49F1FC90.7000607@socal.rr.com>

Tim,

The biggest one was the oil pump/distributor driveshaft being off not 1 
but TWO teeth..

Then there was the issue of the adjustment plate that's bolted to the 
underside of the distributor that, if in the wrong position, limits the 
range of the distributor.

Then there was the problem with the coil to distributor main wire being 
crappy and falling out.  (one flipped around it worked fine)

Those were the big ones.  Nothing that complex, and I did post it before..

Eddie

Tim wrote:
> Hey Dewey...don't answer Eddie's question until he tells the list what he meant the other day when he referred to "oddities" found while sorting out his "not starting" issues.  ;-)
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
>
> ---- Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com> wrote: 
>
> =============
> Dewey,
>
> Can you tell me how long that master cylinder is?  Length from the 
> firewall out to the farthest point?  Thanks.
>
> Eddie
>
> Dewey Hahlbohm wrote:
>   
>> Eddie, I had a 510 master in my 2000, worked fine until I mounted the Mikuni carbs, then the clearance became an issue.  The 510 master is longer than the roadster master and I was unable to install that way.  I had to remove the 510 master and replace it with a roadster master.  Other than that, the 510 master worked great.  I am not aware of any other clearance issues.  Good luck, Dewey 
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>   
>>     
>>> From: Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
>>> Sent: Apr 23, 2009 9:18 PM
>>> To: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>>> Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've checked the 311s site, and there is some info on using a 510 master 
>>> cylinder in the wiki section.  Someone else talked about using a 280Z 
>>> master cylinder as well.
>>>
>>> Since I'm not comfortable with the single reservoir system, can anyone 
>>> tell me what master cylinders work?
>>>
>>> Are those the only two?
>>>
>>> What about clearance issues? 
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Eddie
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From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Fri Apr 24 12:29:14 2009
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (nmleeds at mindspring.com)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:29:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] my son's roadster clutching
Message-ID: <27848542.1240597755329.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Watch out for some of the clutch kits.  We got one with the correct serial numbers and everything which was the wrong spec.  It took us forever to figure it out because we assumed that if the clutch was labelled correctly and was installed without incident that it must be correct.

I hope the same hasn't happened to you.  The only thing you can do to test is to lift the car, disconnect the driveshaft and see if it is disengauging when someone steps on the clutch.  If you suspect that the problem is the master and slave, you can use the slave pin adjustment to push the fork further out and see if you can get disengaugment that way -- but make sure to readjust it when you are done.



-----Original Message-----
>From: barterdude <barterdude at comcast.net>
>Sent: Apr 24, 2009 10:03 AM
>To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>Subject: [Roadsters] my son's roadster clutching
>
>Okay - new rebuilt transmission, new clutch, son is still complaining of
>hard shifting even after bleeding the clutch slave cylinder.  Do we have to
>replace both master and slave or which would be the most likely candidate if
>only one?
>
> 
>
>Cheers -- Gary Lasater
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From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Fri Apr 24 12:59:14 2009
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS))
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:59:14 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Master cyl threads, hard shifting
Message-ID: <CE1C9C26CC18FD4E804F232CEC1F8451027AA7FD@XMBTX132.northgrum.com>

No, that is two separate topics.
1. 510 master cyl metric threads:
Remove the ~1-1/8" nuts that contain the sae threads from the bottom of
the roadster master.  Remove same parts from 510 master.  Switch them.
On a 66, you have a lot more work to make room for the dual master
length.  The dual pushrod / dual cylinder set-up is commonly called a
Tilton, and is going to be some fab work to get working.

2. hard shifting:
It sounds like the pushrod from the slave cylinder to the clutch arm
needs to be adjusted (lengthened) to give you more throw.  (he should be
noticing that there is some slack between when your foot hits the pedal
and when dis-engagement happens, although you can take out that slack at
the pedal end as well)
Replacing the clutch has changed relationships, and it is a well known
fact that all successful relationships need a good whack with a 10"
cresecent wrench on occasion.....

But don't quote me on that last part.

Fergus O
69 2000, screamin' toward solvang on Saturday morning, oh-dark-thirty
departure

From pat at hornesystemstx.com  Fri Apr 24 12:59:42 2009
From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:59:42 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] my son's roadster clutching
In-Reply-To: <27848542.1240597755329.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <27848542.1240597755329.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <49F20C1E.2070507@hornesystemstx.com>

What exactly are you referring to  as "hard shifting"? I recall that 
there was something long ago where folks were discussing problems with 
newly rebuilt transmissions getting the shifter out of one gear and into 
the next due to what seemed to be tight detents, but if they slapped the 
shifter out of gear, it worked fine. This was not the case of grinding 
gears. I seem to recall that it was one particular type of trans, though 
I can't recall which version. Anyway, the cure was to go with Redline 
trans fluid, although I don't recall which one. This "might" be in the 
archives, but it was probably 15 years ago.

Hope that helps.

Peace,
Pat
> -----Original Message-----
>   
>> From: barterdude <barterdude at comcast.net>
>> Sent: Apr 24, 2009 10:03 AM
>> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>> Subject: [Roadsters] my son's roadster clutching
>>
>> Okay - new rebuilt transmission, new clutch, son is still complaining of
>> hard shifting even after bleeding the clutch slave cylinder.  Do we have to
>> replace both master and slave or which would be the most likely candidate if
>> only one?
>>
>>
>>     
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From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Fri Apr 24 13:22:52 2009
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 12:22:52 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
References: <49F11357.9000407@socal.rr.com>
	<7A519C944E69428CA8500AAE285C8A98@Daryl>
	<49F1F9B2.8060902@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <500C2BB0670341BD9558DB34F6D1CEBB@Daryl>

First off I have no experience with them, other than seeing the setup on my 
brothers 510 racecar, which is yet to see a track......

Some info and a couple pictures here:
http://www.hotrodheaven.com/tech/brakes/brakes3.htm

An interesting and compact piece here ( bias adjustment.??. ):
http://secure.chassisshop.com/partrelate/717-5-8-5-8/

Wilwood assembly here:
http://www.wilwood.com/Products/005-PedalAssemblies/002-FSMP/fsmdmcbp/index.asp

Google will help you find more info..............

If you can hook up with some of the racers, roadster or 510, you may be able 
to see first hand how they've done it, and adjust for your 
car/likes/dislikes.

Daryl

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>


> Daryl,
>
> Care to eloborate on the twin single master cylinder set thing?  Thanks.
>
> Eddie
>
> Daryl Smith wrote:
>> What year car Eddie?
>> On the early cars, '66-'67 1600s, there is no room for a dual master 
>> cylinder.
>> You will have the choice of body work to recess the master like the later 
>> cars, or go to an aftermarket twin single mastercylinder set like you see 
>> in some racecars.
>>
>> Daryl
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've checked the 311s site, and there is some info on using a 510 master 
>>> cylinder in the wiki section.  Someone else talked about using a 280Z 
>>> master cylinder as well.
>>>
>>> Since I'm not comfortable with the single reservoir system, can anyone 
>>> tell me what master cylinders work?
>>>
>>> Are those the only two?
>>>
>>> What about clearance issues?
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Eddie

From wschaibe at ucsd.edu  Fri Apr 24 13:37:02 2009
From: wschaibe at ucsd.edu (Bill Schairer)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 12:37:02 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] a bit OT
Message-ID: <9d85bbf00ad655058b75ffd8c790be33@ucsd.edu>

http://www.arte-mexico.com/betsa/llantas.htm

Bill
San Diego
1970 1600 driver

From tputland at charter.net  Fri Apr 24 13:37:23 2009
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 12:37:23 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] a bit OT
In-Reply-To: <9d85bbf00ad655058b75ffd8c790be33@ucsd.edu>
Message-ID: <20090424153723.A3KW8.1517283.root@mp14>

I love it. It is about time someone found a use for old tires besides rodent habitat!

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

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From d_kroninger at hotmail.com  Fri Apr 24 13:39:34 2009
From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:39:34 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] a bit OT
In-Reply-To: <20090424153723.A3KW8.1517283.root@mp14>
References: <9d85bbf00ad655058b75ffd8c790be33@ucsd.edu>
	<20090424153723.A3KW8.1517283.root@mp14>
Message-ID: <BAY139-W26AD7967B926773DF6C8889B720@phx.gbl>

I like to use them for camp fires



lol, totally kidding!

> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 12:37:23 -0700
> From: tputland at charter.net
> To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; wschaibe at ucsd.edu
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] a bit OT
>
> I love it. It is about time someone found a use for old tires besides rodent
habitat!
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
>
> ---- Bill Schairer <wschaibe at ucsd.edu> wrote:
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From tputland at charter.net  Fri Apr 24 13:39:34 2009
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 12:39:34 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] a bit OT
In-Reply-To: <9d85bbf00ad655058b75ffd8c790be33@ucsd.edu>
Message-ID: <20090424153934.FPOJW.1517407.root@mp14>

I love it. It is about time someone found a use for old tires besides rodent habitat!

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

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From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Fri Apr 24 14:48:57 2009
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:48:57 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
References: <20090424134810.JG9SC.1511502.root@mp14>
Message-ID: <011c01c9c51e$170a6de0$6400a8c0@LAP120>

Quote:

"Hey Dewey...don't answer Eddie's question until he tells the list what he
meant the other day when he referred to "oddities" found while sorting out
his "not starting" issues.  ;-)
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning

Ha!Ha! Second that! Tim was probably joking. Me?..not  so much.

I'm still trying to figure out where Mr. Eddie's head is at!......

Eddie,
First you denigrate and villify the "Roadster Community" (that's a pretty
large group, at least on the Roadster List, not counting the forum), when
you're disappointed in some way, then you seem to support the Roadster
Community when you're searching for advice and answers.

It's fortunate that the Roadster Community has some members who can look
past this conundrum and help you out.

Still..........what gives?

No insult, malice, or trolling intended , just trying to understand your
drift.

US of Tara?

Refer to quote below:

> On Apr 18, 2009, at 3:31 PM, Eddie wrote:
>
> > "maybe you or someone else can get them manufactured for the rest of
> > us. "
> >
> > You know, I did that once, and got nothing but headaches for it.
> > Half the people who said they wanted the item never ordered it,
> > others did everything they could to derail the project, and few were
> > willing to stand up and open voice their support of it.  Behind the
> > scenes, many were willing to email me privately and offer support,
> > but openly?  Nope.
> > As a result, I haven't bothered to get a number of things
> > manufactured that I could, quite easily, and probably at reasonable
> > prices.
> > When the Roadster Community is willing to actually buy what they say
> > they will, and stand up to the bullies who try to derail anyone who
> > wants to do anything for the community, and when people stop telling
> > others THEY should go get something manufactured, I'll be glad to
> > help.
> >
> > Until then, people can go to the vendors and pay whatever they're
> > charging.
> >
> > Eddie



Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>
To: "Dewey Hahlbohm" <hahlbohmd at earthlink.net>;
"datsun-roadsters:autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives


> Hey Dewey...don't answer Eddie's question until he tells the list what he
meant the other day when he referred to "oddities" found while sorting out
his "not starting" issues.  ;-)
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning

From ericerichoffman at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 24 14:56:07 2009
From: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com (Eric Hoffman)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:56:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] southeast sports car owners: appalachain moonshine run
 saturday may 2
Message-ID: <827526.11145.qm@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Yes this is the same day as The Mitty but looks like it's going to be a
blast.  It starts in Elkin, NC.  Here are a few links:
 
http://www.carolinasmiataclub.com/calendar/Moonshine2009.phtml
 
http://www.triadahc.org/moonshine.html
 
http://blakedpotato.smugmug.com/gallery/1147997#53518845_6FiyQ

From aultgc at att.net  Fri Apr 24 19:43:39 2009
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 20:43:39 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
References: <49F11357.9000407@socal.rr.com>
	<7A519C944E69428CA8500AAE285C8A98@Daryl>
Message-ID: <AC82B2C3BAA941118FD2654DB9DD6142@gaxp1>

In 38 years of driving my '66, I have never had a catastrophic failure of 
the brake system..  Had cylinders and calipers leak, and had the M/C leak 
back into the passenger compartment.  All detected before they became major 
(safety) problems.  Now, I've probably put a kit in the M/C when it didn't 
really need one, but properly maintained, the single M/C should be fine. 
And, I do my own oil changes and lubrication, so I "lay hands" on the 
running gear up close and personal on a regular basis.

If you can conveniently replace it with a dual master, then re-plumb your 
brake lines to accommodate, fine.  But, I wouldn't go to great lengths . 
The dual brake systems were primarily intended for the ignorant, clueless 
masses who never check their M/Cs for fluid level, or inspect their brake 
systems for leaks.  IMHO.

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daryl Smith" <drlsmith at dccnet.com>
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>; "Eddie" 
<eddietude at socal.rr.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives


> What year car Eddie?
> On the early cars, '66-'67 1600s, there is no room for a dual master 
> cylinder.
> You will have the choice of body work to recess the master like the later 
> cars, or go to an aftermarket twin single mastercylinder set like you see 
> in some racecars.
>
> Daryl
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've checked the 311s site, and there is some info on using a 510 master 
>> cylinder in the wiki section.  Someone else talked about using a 280Z 
>> master cylinder as well.
>>
>> Since I'm not comfortable with the single reservoir system, can anyone 
>> tell me what master cylinders work?
>>
>> Are those the only two?
>>
>> What about clearance issues?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Eddie
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From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Fri Apr 24 20:13:28 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:13:28 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
In-Reply-To: <AC82B2C3BAA941118FD2654DB9DD6142@gaxp1>
References: <49F11357.9000407@socal.rr.com>
	<7A519C944E69428CA8500AAE285C8A98@Daryl>
	<AC82B2C3BAA941118FD2654DB9DD6142@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <49F271C8.3020005@socal.rr.com>

I understand your position, but here's mine:

I've never known anyone who died from a non-collapsing steering column, 
(probably because they were phased out around the time I was born) but 
it still is a concern, hence why I replaced my steering column with a 
later model one.

There's a good reason cars are not manufactured with a single braking 
system, and that's because IF something brakes, you're screwed, big time.

AND, it happened to me just the other day.

Brakes worked fine in the driveway.  EVERYTHING had been meticulously 
gone through.  Tested in the garage.  Tested fine on the street several 
times...

Then, 5 minutes later, the line snapped.  Yup.  And I had NOTHING....  
Not a great feeling...

Eddie

Gary and Cindy Ault wrote:
> In 38 years of driving my '66, I have never had a catastrophic failure 
> of the brake system..  Had cylinders and calipers leak, and had the 
> M/C leak back into the passenger compartment.  All detected before 
> they became major (safety) problems.  Now, I've probably put a kit in 
> the M/C when it didn't really need one, but properly maintained, the 
> single M/C should be fine. And, I do my own oil changes and 
> lubrication, so I "lay hands" on the running gear up close and 
> personal on a regular basis.
>
> If you can conveniently replace it with a dual master, then re-plumb 
> your brake lines to accommodate, fine.  But, I wouldn't go to great 
> lengths . The dual brake systems were primarily intended for the 
> ignorant, clueless masses who never check their M/Cs for fluid level, 
> or inspect their brake systems for leaks.  IMHO.
>
> Gary
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Smith" <drlsmith at dccnet.com>
> To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>; "Eddie" 
> <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 11:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
>
>
>> What year car Eddie?
>> On the early cars, '66-'67 1600s, there is no room for a dual master 
>> cylinder.
>> You will have the choice of body work to recess the master like the 
>> later cars, or go to an aftermarket twin single mastercylinder set 
>> like you see in some racecars.
>>
>> Daryl
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've checked the 311s site, and there is some info on using a 510 
>>> master cylinder in the wiki section.  Someone else talked about 
>>> using a 280Z master cylinder as well.
>>>
>>> Since I'm not comfortable with the single reservoir system, can 
>>> anyone tell me what master cylinders work?
>>>
>>> Are those the only two?
>>>
>>> What about clearance issues?
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Eddie
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From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Fri Apr 24 20:20:27 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:20:27 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Motor Blew with 19 miles on it.
Message-ID: <49F2736B.9030006@socal.rr.com>

So you'll all love this:

I take my car to the mechanic who rebuilt it today to get him to adjust 
the carbs and check why my oil pressure seemed low.

(The dual carb thing is new to me, and he gladly showed me how to do it.)

He couldn't figure out why the oil pressure was low, and assumed it must 
be because the car is supposed to be that way.  I told him it wasn't.  
He said that he thought perhaps the sending unit wasn't properly matched 
to the gauge.   I told him I didn't think that was the case either, and 
I suspected something internally was amiss.  He insisted that was not 
the case, and he said he stands by his work if there is a problem. 

He said it would be fine, and if it was going to be a problem, it would 
have done it on the trip over to his shop.  I leave, having a funny 
feeling about all of it. 

Long story short, I got about 3 miles from his shop, and with 19 miles 
total on the new motor, it seized.  Yup.  Seized up on the freeway. 

Got towed home, and Monday it's going in his shop and he gets to rebuild 
it for free.  Not my problem, and I'm not going to worry about it or get 
upset about it. 

Turns out, the exact same thing happened to my friend's Porsche roadster 
he rebuilt the motor on, and the guy did honor his work and fix it for 
no charge.  I'm sure he's not going to be happy he screwed this up!  Oh 
well...

So, back to driving my truck...

Eddie

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Fri Apr 24 22:40:46 2009
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 00:40:46 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Motor Blew with 19 miles on it.
In-Reply-To: <49F2736B.9030006@socal.rr.com>
References: <49F2736B.9030006@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <8CB9377223B68D2-16E8-1A71@webmail-dx02.sysops.aol.com>

 That's terrible. Would be nice to know WHY the motor seized, if possible. Keep us posted.
Linda

-----Original Message-----
From: Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
To: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 7:20 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Motor Blew with 19 miles on it.









So you'll all love this:?
?

I take my car to the mechanic who rebuilt it today to get him to adjust 
the carbs and check why my oil pressure seemed low.?
?

(The dual carb thing is new to me, and he gladly showed me how to do it.)?
?

He couldn't figure out why the oil pressure was low, and assumed it must 
be because the car is supposed to be that way.  I told him it wasn't.  
He said that he thought perhaps the sending unit wasn't properly matched 
to the gauge.   I told him I didn't think that was the case either, and 
I suspected something internally was amiss.  He insisted that was not 
the case, and he said he stands by his work if there is a problem. ?

He said it would be fine, and if it was going to be a problem, it would 
have done it on the trip over to his shop.  I leave, having a funny 
feeling about all of it. ?

Long story short, I got about 3 miles from his shop, and with 19 miles 
total on the new motor, it seized.  Yup.  Seized up on the freeway. ?

Got towed home, and Monday it's going in his shop and he gets to rebuild 
it for free.  Not my problem, and I'm not going to worry about it or get 
upset about it. ?

Turns out, the exact same thing happened to my friend's Porsche roadster 
he rebuilt the motor on, and the guy did honor his work and fix it for 
no charge.  I'm sure he's not going to be happy he screwed this up!  Oh 
well...?
?

So, back to driving my truck...?
?

Eddie?

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From roadster at astound.net  Fri Apr 24 23:56:40 2009
From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 22:56:40 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Motor Blew with 19 miles on it.
In-Reply-To: <49F2736B.9030006@socal.rr.com>
References: <49F2736B.9030006@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <B702B17E-88DC-4E7F-A9E6-C2640FB96038@astound.net>

Do you have a 2000 engine? At first I was thinking maybe the rear  
jackshaft bearing was installed wrong - but that would impede flow of  
oil to the cylinder head but wouldn't necessarily make the oil  
pressure low.

It could be the oil pump is bad. If the rotating impeller (don't know  
what it's called but it rotates and moves the oil in the pump) has too  
much clearance it won't move much oil and your engine won't be happy.

Please let us know what the cause is.

Fred - So.SF

On Apr 24, 2009, at 7:20 PM, Eddie wrote:

> So you'll all love this:
>
> I take my car to the mechanic who rebuilt it today to get him to  
> adjust the carbs and check why my oil pressure seemed low.
>
> (The dual carb thing is new to me, and he gladly showed me how to do  
> it.)
>
> He couldn't figure out why the oil pressure was low, and assumed it  
> must be because the car is supposed to be that way.  I told him it  
> wasn't.  He said that he thought perhaps the sending unit wasn't  
> properly matched to the gauge.   I told him I didn't think that was  
> the case either, and I suspected something internally was amiss.  He  
> insisted that was not the case, and he said he stands by his work if  
> there is a problem.
> He said it would be fine, and if it was going to be a problem, it  
> would have done it on the trip over to his shop.  I leave, having a  
> funny feeling about all of it.
> Long story short, I got about 3 miles from his shop, and with 19  
> miles total on the new motor, it seized.  Yup.  Seized up on the  
> freeway.
> Got towed home, and Monday it's going in his shop and he gets to  
> rebuild it for free.  Not my problem, and I'm not going to worry  
> about it or get upset about it.
> Turns out, the exact same thing happened to my friend's Porsche  
> roadster he rebuilt the motor on, and the guy did honor his work and  
> fix it for no charge.  I'm sure he's not going to be happy he  
> screwed this up!  Oh well...
>
> So, back to driving my truck...
>
> Eddie

From slowboy at cox.net  Sat Apr 25 01:12:17 2009
From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 00:12:17 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
In-Reply-To: <49F271C8.3020005@socal.rr.com>
References: <49F11357.9000407@socal.rr.com><7A519C944E69428CA8500AAE285C8A98@Daryl><AC82B2C3BAA941118FD2654DB9DD6142@gaxp1>
	<49F271C8.3020005@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <32DAE41DE80C4F62AFB038E3322BD692@m7170n>

I can testify to that, but it happened to me twice and both times it was a
dual reservoir master cylinder that failed. 

That is where my parking brake and tranny skills come in handy.

Insert the F word followed by others right after brake pedal hit floor. 

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net 

There's a good reason cars are not manufactured with a single braking 
system, and that's because IF something brakes, you're screwed, big time.

AND, it happened to me just the other day.

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Sat Apr 25 01:21:43 2009
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 00:21:43 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Spanish Banks Meet - SUNDAY!!
Message-ID: <1BB3D6E7A9874277AB57C57FD20A729A@Daryl>

Just a reminder of the All Japanese Classic Car Meet at Spanish Banks, Vancouver, BC, on Sunday, 9 am to 3 pm.

Weather is supposed to cooperate. It would be nice to see a bunch of roadsters out there!

My car SHOULD make it.........

Daryl

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Sat Apr 25 01:21:42 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 00:21:42 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
In-Reply-To: <32DAE41DE80C4F62AFB038E3322BD692@m7170n>
References: <49F11357.9000407@socal.rr.com><7A519C944E69428CA8500AAE285C8A98@Daryl><AC82B2C3BAA941118FD2654DB9DD6142@gaxp1>
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	<32DAE41DE80C4F62AFB038E3322BD692@m7170n>
Message-ID: <49F2BA06.9080001@socal.rr.com>

Interesting.  Usually with a dual system, when it fails, you lose either 
the fronts OR the rears, but not both.

Eddie




SlowBoy wrote:
> I can testify to that, but it happened to me twice and both times it was a
> dual reservoir master cylinder that failed. 
>
> That is where my parking brake and tranny skills come in handy.
>
> Insert the F word followed by others right after brake pedal hit floor. 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net 
>
> There's a good reason cars are not manufactured with a single braking 
> system, and that's because IF something brakes, you're screwed, big time.
>
> AND, it happened to me just the other day.
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From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Sat Apr 25 01:23:11 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 00:23:11 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Motor Blew with 19 miles on it.
In-Reply-To: <B702B17E-88DC-4E7F-A9E6-C2640FB96038@astound.net>
References: <49F2736B.9030006@socal.rr.com>
	<B702B17E-88DC-4E7F-A9E6-C2640FB96038@astound.net>
Message-ID: <49F2BA5F.3070207@socal.rr.com>

Motor was an H20, 1600.

Whatever it was, I'm sure the mechanic will let me know once he gets it 
open.

I'm beyond being upset.  Was planning on driving to Solvang in it, but, 
I'll guess I'll have to take my other vehicle... sigh.....

I'll keep everyone posted..

Eddie

Fred Katz wrote:
> Do you have a 2000 engine? At first I was thinking maybe the rear 
> jackshaft bearing was installed wrong - but that would impede flow of 
> oil to the cylinder head but wouldn't necessarily make the oil 
> pressure low.
>
> It could be the oil pump is bad. If the rotating impeller (don't know 
> what it's called but it rotates and moves the oil in the pump) has too 
> much clearance it won't move much oil and your engine won't be happy.
>
> Please let us know what the cause is.
>
> Fred - So.SF
>
> On Apr 24, 2009, at 7:20 PM, Eddie wrote:
>
>> So you'll all love this:
>>
>> I take my car to the mechanic who rebuilt it today to get him to 
>> adjust the carbs and check why my oil pressure seemed low.
>>
>> (The dual carb thing is new to me, and he gladly showed me how to do 
>> it.)
>>
>> He couldn't figure out why the oil pressure was low, and assumed it 
>> must be because the car is supposed to be that way.  I told him it 
>> wasn't.  He said that he thought perhaps the sending unit wasn't 
>> properly matched to the gauge.   I told him I didn't think that was 
>> the case either, and I suspected something internally was amiss.  He 
>> insisted that was not the case, and he said he stands by his work if 
>> there is a problem.
>> He said it would be fine, and if it was going to be a problem, it 
>> would have done it on the trip over to his shop.  I leave, having a 
>> funny feeling about all of it.
>> Long story short, I got about 3 miles from his shop, and with 19 
>> miles total on the new motor, it seized.  Yup.  Seized up on the 
>> freeway.
>> Got towed home, and Monday it's going in his shop and he gets to 
>> rebuild it for free.  Not my problem, and I'm not going to worry 
>> about it or get upset about it.
>> Turns out, the exact same thing happened to my friend's Porsche 
>> roadster he rebuilt the motor on, and the guy did honor his work and 
>> fix it for no charge.  I'm sure he's not going to be happy he screwed 
>> this up!  Oh well...
>>
>> So, back to driving my truck...
>>
>> Eddie

From mark at dealermats.com  Sat Apr 25 07:05:54 2009
From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 09:05:54 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
In-Reply-To: <49F2BA06.9080001@socal.rr.com>
References: <49F11357.9000407@socal.rr.com><7A519C944E69428CA8500AAE285C8A98@Daryl><AC82B2C3BAA941118FD2654DB9DD6142@gaxp1>
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	<49F2BA06.9080001@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <9D7138E0-21BA-4450-9A05-231843B46846@dealermats.com>

Not when the Master Cylinder itself fails, which is common on a 40  
year old part :)  When they go bad it does not matter if it is single  
or dual, you just lose pressure.  A dual system only helps if the  
failure is after the M/C


Mark




On Apr 25, 2009, at 3:21 AM, Eddie wrote:

> Interesting.  Usually with a dual system, when it fails, you lose  
> either the fronts OR the rears, but not both.
>
> Eddie

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Sat Apr 25 07:28:39 2009
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 06:28:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Motor Blew with 19 miles on it.
In-Reply-To: <49F2736B.9030006@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <984020.36652.qm@web82801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

make sure he checks the block for cracks.  i ran a car for several years with
a cracked block, and low oil pressure until a different mechanic, trying to
solve the problem, did a process that is similar to x ray.

--- On Fri, 4/24/09, Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com> wrote:

From: Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
Subject: [Roadsters] Motor Blew with 19 miles on it.
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 9:20 PM

So you'll all love this:

I take my car to the mechanic who rebuilt it today to get him to adjust the
carbs and check why my oil pressure seemed low.

(The dual carb thing is new to me, and he gladly showed me how to do it.)

He couldn't figure out why the oil pressure was low, and assumed it must be
because the car is supposed to be that way.  I told him it wasn't.  He said
that he thought perhaps the sending unit wasn't properly matched to the
gauge.   I told him I didn't think that was the case either, and I suspected
something internally was amiss.  He insisted that was not the case, and he
said
he stands by his work if there is a problem.
He said it would be fine, and if it was going to be a problem, it would have
done it on the trip over to his shop.  I leave, having a funny feeling about
all
of it.
Long story short, I got about 3 miles from his shop, and with 19 miles total
on
the new motor, it seized.  Yup.  Seized up on the freeway.
Got towed home, and Monday it's going in his shop and he gets to rebuild it
for free.  Not my problem, and I'm not going to worry about it or get upset
about it.
Turns out, the exact same thing happened to my friend's Porsche roadster he
rebuilt the motor on, and the guy did honor his work and fix it for no charge.
I'm sure he's not going to be happy he screwed this up!  Oh well...

So, back to driving my truck...

Eddie

From bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com  Sat Apr 25 09:59:37 2009
From: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com (Brian Hollands)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 11:59:37 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
Message-ID: <20090425155937404.EEOY16411@hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com>

A dual system only helps if the failure is after the M/C....


In my experience, it doesn't help there either.  I've had wheel cylinder
fail and the result was ZERO pedal.  I still don't understand what the dual
cylinder is supposed to do for me.
The only way I know to prevent a total failure is to keep the front and rear
circuits completely separate using two master cylinders.

Brian
'69 2000
Tampa FL

From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Sat Apr 25 10:37:32 2009
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 11:37:32 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
In-Reply-To: <20090425155937404.EEOY16411@hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com>
References: <20090425155937404.EEOY16411@hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com>
Message-ID: <2faaebf80904250937j7785da28ofe410cb34b7e4988@mail.gmail.com>

> Brian Hollands

> In my experience, it doesn't help there either. B I've had wheel cylinder
> fail and the result was ZERO pedal. B I still don't understand what the
dual
> cylinder is supposed to do for me.
> The only way I know to prevent a total failure is to keep the front and
rear
> circuits completely separate using two master cylinders.

A dual master is functionally two separate systems if it's working
properly, and I understand that's a big "if". The front and rear
systems are independent but there's often leakage between the two
because the seal in the middle of the dual M/C piston (supposed to
separate the front & rear system) is leaking, the bore of the M/C is
corroded or both. My Roadster's brakes have had minimal attention in
the 3 or 4 years I've owned it and I need to pull the drums and check
the wheel cylinders for leakage, disassemble and check the M/C (plus
install the firewall brace) and flush and adjust the system. I expect
I'll be pleasantly surprised at how well the brakes work once this is
all done.

FWIW,
Ron

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Sat Apr 25 10:52:05 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 09:52:05 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Motor Blew with 19 miles on it.
In-Reply-To: <984020.36652.qm@web82801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <984020.36652.qm@web82801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <49F33FB5.50404@socal.rr.com>

The block didn't have a crack BEFORE he rebuilt it, as the OP was fine 
before the rebuild...

My guess?  Oil pump failed, or something else wasn't done right...

Eddie

oliver wrote:
> make sure he checks the block for cracks.  i ran a car for several years with
> a cracked block, and low oil pressure until a different mechanic, trying to
> solve the problem, did a process that is similar to x ray.
>
> --- On Fri, 4/24/09, Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
> From: Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
> Subject: [Roadsters] Motor Blew with 19 miles on it.
> To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 9:20 PM
>
> So you'll all love this:
>
> I take my car to the mechanic who rebuilt it today to get him to adjust the
> carbs and check why my oil pressure seemed low.
>
> (The dual carb thing is new to me, and he gladly showed me how to do it.)
>
> He couldn't figure out why the oil pressure was low, and assumed it must be
> because the car is supposed to be that way.  I told him it wasn't.  He said
> that he thought perhaps the sending unit wasn't properly matched to the
> gauge.   I told him I didn't think that was the case either, and I suspected
> something internally was amiss.  He insisted that was not the case, and he
> said
> he stands by his work if there is a problem.
> He said it would be fine, and if it was going to be a problem, it would have
> done it on the trip over to his shop.  I leave, having a funny feeling about
> all
> of it.
> Long story short, I got about 3 miles from his shop, and with 19 miles total
> on
> the new motor, it seized.  Yup.  Seized up on the freeway.
> Got towed home, and Monday it's going in his shop and he gets to rebuild it
> for free.  Not my problem, and I'm not going to worry about it or get upset
> about it.
> Turns out, the exact same thing happened to my friend's Porsche roadster he
> rebuilt the motor on, and the guy did honor his work and fix it for no charge.
> I'm sure he's not going to be happy he screwed this up!  Oh well...
>
> So, back to driving my truck...
>
> Eddie
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From mark at dealermats.com  Sat Apr 25 11:20:18 2009
From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:20:18 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Motor Blew with 19 miles on it.
In-Reply-To: <49F33FB5.50404@socal.rr.com>
References: <984020.36652.qm@web82801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<49F33FB5.50404@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <D194F60E-1C07-4CBC-B8DA-E1840B33AD66@dealermats.com>

This brings up an interesting question:  If the oil pump failed, is it  
his problem?  Did he use the old pump?  Just wondering.  If he rebuilt  
the motor but a part that he did not replace happened to fail shortly  
thereafter, who is liable?

Mark





On Apr 25, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Eddie wrote:

> The block didn't have a crack BEFORE he rebuilt it, as the OP was  
> fine before the rebuild...
>
> My guess?  Oil pump failed, or something else wasn't done right...
>
> Eddie

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Sat Apr 25 11:31:08 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 10:31:08 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Motor Blew with 19 miles on it.
In-Reply-To: <D194F60E-1C07-4CBC-B8DA-E1840B33AD66@dealermats.com>
References: <984020.36652.qm@web82801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<49F33FB5.50404@socal.rr.com>
	<D194F60E-1C07-4CBC-B8DA-E1840B33AD66@dealermats.com>
Message-ID: <49F348DC.7060004@socal.rr.com>

It became his problem when I brought the car back to him complaining the 
OP was low, and he said "it's fine, that's probably normal just drive it."

It also doesn't help his case that the EXACT same thing happened to a 
friend of mine.  Seems to be a pattern of sloppy work.

Eddie

Mark Dent wrote:
> This brings up an interesting question:  If the oil pump failed, is it 
> his problem?  Did he use the old pump?  Just wondering.  If he rebuilt 
> the motor but a part that he did not replace happened to fail shortly 
> thereafter, who is liable?
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 25, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Eddie wrote:
>
>> The block didn't have a crack BEFORE he rebuilt it, as the OP was 
>> fine before the rebuild...
>>
>> My guess?  Oil pump failed, or something else wasn't done right...
>>
>> Eddie

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Sat Apr 25 11:47:25 2009
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 10:47:25 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Motor Blew with 19 miles on it.
In-Reply-To: <49F33FB5.50404@socal.rr.com>
References: <984020.36652.qm@web82801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<49F33FB5.50404@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <000901c9c5cd$e56f1640$b04d42c0$@net>

Even without knowing the final resolution of this, there are a few lessons
that we all can learn.

1. When rebuilding an engine, have all iron or steel parts magnafluxed.
That's mainly the block, crank and rods. This is the process that checks for
cracks. It's not that expensive, and can save you a bundle in time and money
later.

2. If you're using used parts (like an oil pump), disassemble and inspect
them to make sure they're in good condition.

3. Before starting a fresh engine, remove the distributor and drive gear and
prime the oil system by running the oil pump with an electric drill.
Remember, the oil pump runs counterclockwise, so put the drill in reverse.
You'll be able to hear and feel the resistance when it is pumping oil. If
you don't see at least 15-20 psi oil pressure on the gauge, STOP right there
and find out what is wrong.

4. A mechanic who "assumes" a car is supposed to run low oil pressure is
incompetent. He already screwed up once by installing the distributor drive
gear wrong. Now he's making excuses as to why it couldn't possibly be his
fault. Personally, I don't think I'd trust the guy to fix his mistake
correctly.

Gordon Glasgow

From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eddie

The block didn't have a crack BEFORE he rebuilt it, as the OP was fine 
before the rebuild...

My guess?  Oil pump failed, or something else wasn't done right...

Eddie

oliver wrote:
> make sure he checks the block for cracks.  i ran a car for several years
with
> a cracked block, and low oil pressure until a different mechanic, trying
to
> solve the problem, did a process that is similar to x ray.
>
> --- On Fri, 4/24/09, Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
> He couldn't figure out why the oil pressure was low, and assumed it must
be
> because the car is supposed to be that way.  I told him it wasn't.  He
said
> that he thought perhaps the sending unit wasn't properly matched to the
> gauge.   I told him I didn't think that was the case either, and I
suspected
> something internally was amiss.  He insisted that was not the case, and he
> said
> he stands by his work if there is a problem.
> He said it would be fine, and if it was going to be a problem, it would
have
> done it on the trip over to his shop.  I leave, having a funny feeling
about
> all
> of it.
> Long story short, I got about 3 miles from his shop, and with 19 miles
total
> on
> the new motor, it seized.  Yup.  Seized up on the freeway.
> Got towed home, and Monday it's going in his shop and he gets to rebuild
it
> for free.  Not my problem, and I'm not going to worry about it or get
upset
> about it.
> Turns out, the exact same thing happened to my friend's Porsche roadster
he
> rebuilt the motor on, and the guy did honor his work and fix it for no
charge.
> I'm sure he's not going to be happy he screwed this up!  Oh well... 
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters

From aultgc at att.net  Sat Apr 25 15:23:57 2009
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:23:57 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Motor Blew with 19 miles on it.
References: <984020.36652.qm@web82801.mail.mud.yahoo.com><49F33FB5.50404@socal.rr.com><D194F60E-1C07-4CBC-B8DA-E1840B33AD66@dealermats.com>
	<49F348DC.7060004@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <C14D1A53FC14455D904ED6F15808B87D@gaxp1>

Eddie,

I know it's a tough financial choice, but do you really want this guy 
working on your engine?

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eddie" <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
To: "Mark Dent" <mark at dealermats.com>
Cc: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Motor Blew with 19 miles on it.


> It became his problem when I brought the car back to him complaining the 
> OP was low, and he said "it's fine, that's probably normal just drive it."
>
> It also doesn't help his case that the EXACT same thing happened to a 
> friend of mine.  Seems to be a pattern of sloppy work.
>
> Eddie
>
> Mark Dent wrote:
>> This brings up an interesting question:  If the oil pump failed, is it 
>> his problem?  Did he use the old pump?  Just wondering.  If he rebuilt 
>> the motor but a part that he did not replace happened to fail shortly 
>> thereafter, who is liable?
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 25, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Eddie wrote:
>>
>>> The block didn't have a crack BEFORE he rebuilt it, as the OP was fine 
>>> before the rebuild...
>>>
>>> My guess?  Oil pump failed, or something else wasn't done right...
>>>
>>> Eddie
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From rsp100tor at zoominternet.net  Sat Apr 25 22:23:03 2009
From: rsp100tor at zoominternet.net (T. O. R.)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 00:23:03 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang
Message-ID: <52008.1240719783@zoominternet.net>

	Everybody looked pretty good this weekend in Solvang.

	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QoXdQg9Qzk [1]
 Thanks,
 T.O.R.
 rsp100tor at zoominternet.net


Links:
------
[1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QoXdQg9Qzk

From svedise at hotmail.com  Sun Apr 26 18:41:57 2009
From: svedise at hotmail.com (Jim Svedise)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:41:57 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] solvang
Message-ID: <BAY136-W3954FD29D34B9946ADAA48B4710@phx.gbl>

we just came back from the Solvang meet. Want to say thanks to Jeff & Gabby
Torres for one of the best meets ever!! and from what we hear it's going to be
better next year so we expect that all of you will there next year!!



thanks again to Jeff & crew for all your hard work!



Jim & Susan Monkey Butt award winners

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From alvingogi at hotmail.com  Sun Apr 26 19:11:16 2009
From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 01:11:16 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2009 pictures
Message-ID: <SNT104-W48A3A5D88AB8A2D9B2E9C4B5710@phx.gbl>

We had a blast at Solvang, big thanks to Jeff Torres and co. for putting on a
great show!

I think there were 73 cars and the weather was beautiful. I enjoyed talking
with everyone and putting faces to (311s.org) names :)



Michael Spreadbury and Kevin Desirello outdid themselves with 2 outstanding
SR-powered cars, check them out!



Pictures here:

http://rides.webshots.com/album/571443776LQozrS

Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20



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From haabu at sbcglobal.net  Sun Apr 26 20:59:11 2009
From: haabu at sbcglobal.net (Herb Petty)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:59:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: Much Thanks
Message-ID: <120430.27641.qm@web81806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sun, 4/26/09, Herb Petty <haabu at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

From: Herb Petty <haabu at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Much Thanks
To: majordomo at autox.team.net
Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 7:28 PM







Subject..................Solvang-09.
 
       Well,  Jeff & Gabby Torries & their great family / crew   pulled
off the best Show ever !!
 
What a week-end !!      I say a BIG hats off, & I'll sure be waiting for next
year.
Oh yeah,     something only Michchi-o will understand   (      Claudia   )
 
Hope every one arrived home safe,
 
Herb Petty.

From datrock at centurytel.net  Sun Apr 26 21:22:05 2009
From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:22:05 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] solvang
In-Reply-To: <BAY136-W3954FD29D34B9946ADAA48B4710@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY136-W3954FD29D34B9946ADAA48B4710@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <49F524DD.9070909@centurytel.net>

      I too made it home late this afternoon on a trouble free trip, 
racking up 1898 miles on the Yellow 2000's odometer. I met allot of 
internet friends and made a quite a few more. The whole Solvang event 
including the museum, food, and town were better than I ever expected 
and I hope to see every one next year. Thanks again to Jeff and Gabby 
and anybody else that was involved supporting it. Bill Cole

From andycost at embarqmail.com  Mon Apr 27 04:49:52 2009
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 05:49:52 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] How many G's before a roadster flips?
Message-ID: <JBEKJICFFOFCBHHGLNFDMELHDIAA.andycost@embarqmail.com>

According to my MaxQdata it is 1.73 G's before the inside tires leave the
pavement.

http://image62.webshots.com/662/1/65/37/2734165370065431685SXLeMl_ph.jpg

Check out the video on webshots.  It's grainy but pretty cool to watch.

Andy

From djaes at optusnet.com.au  Mon Apr 27 05:23:20 2009
From: djaes at optusnet.com.au (David Jones)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:23:20 +1000
Subject: [Roadsters] Aussie 2009 Nissan Datsun Nationals
Message-ID: <200904271123.n3RBNMNU014342@mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au>

Greetings fellow Roadster aficionados.

 

Over the period 8-17 April, my wife and I drove our 1968 SR311 (Solex)
Roadster from Melbourne to Warwick in Queensland via the direct inland
route.  We covered 1000+ kilometres the first day with not one problem.  

 

After the Nationals, we drove south to Tamworth and then on to Newcastle,
Sydney and then down to Melbourne via the Hume Highway.  All up we covered
2579 miles or 4150kilometres over the ten days.  This also included 20+ laps
at Morgan Park Raceway to make the trip worthwhile.  We cruised
predominantly between 60mph (100 K/Hr) and 70mph (110K/Hr) with occasional
bursts way beyond the speed limits passing B-Double semi trailers and
caravans.  

 

Some of the Aussie Nationals photos can be seen at
http://www.ndsoc.com.au/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=89  and
http://www.zcarclubq.org.au/

 

We hope to make it back to the USA one day to go to the Solvang gathering.
The weather looked sensational for this year's event and it was fantastic to
see so many Roadsters in one place.

 

Safe Roadstering!

 

Regards,

 

Dave

 

2 x 1968 SR311's

1 x 1970 510

www.ndsoc.com.au <http://www.ndsoc.com.au/> 

Melbourne

Australia

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Mon Apr 27 08:20:00 2009
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:20:00 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang show
Message-ID: <c90.40c2d444.37271910@aol.com>

Hello all,

    Outstanding show. Thanks to Jeff and everyone else  who made it
possible. Also, thanks to everyone who allowed me to use their carbs  to demo
adjusting them.


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From gogineni.alvin at gene.com  Mon Apr 27 08:54:04 2009
From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:54:04 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] How many G's before a roadster flips?
In-Reply-To: <JBEKJICFFOFCBHHGLNFDMELHDIAA.andycost@embarqmail.com>
References: <JBEKJICFFOFCBHHGLNFDMELHDIAA.andycost@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <91FC0D80-B58D-45C0-ADB7-2E1886944F55@gene.com>

holy SH$%!
that's wicked!
You need bigger tires
On Apr 27, 2009, at 3:49 AM, Andy Cost wrote:

> According to my MaxQdata it is 1.73 G's before the inside tires  
> leave the
> pavement.
>
> http://image62.webshots.com/662/1/65/37/2734165370065431685SXLeMl_ph.jpg
>
> Check out the video on webshots.  It's grainy but pretty cool to  
> watch.
>
> Andy
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From d_kroninger at hotmail.com  Mon Apr 27 09:00:33 2009
From: d_kroninger at hotmail.com (Dan Kroninger)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:00:33 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] New Roadster Owner
Message-ID: <BAY139-W489DC9E1E2A031BBC4C0679B710@phx.gbl>

Everyone,



It has finally happened.  I have located and purchased the roadster I have
been looking for!  It is a 1968 1600.  Numbers matching, original black over
original red interior.  Runs like a top and is complete with the exception of
a soft top.  It does have a nice hard top though



I am now trying to get all my little yellow duckies in a row, and am doing the
final determination on insurance carriers.  I am getting the best quote from
Hagerty and they sound like they offer really great coverage.  I was wondering
what others thought of Hagerty, and if anyone had any suggestions based on the
coverage that they use.  Please let me know.



Thanks,

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From andycost at embarqmail.com  Mon Apr 27 09:47:49 2009
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Embarq Customer)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:47:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] How many G's before a roadster flips?
In-Reply-To: <1259762220.4939241240846801334.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com>
Message-ID: <1305475025.4942031240847269824.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com>

Try this link.



http://thumb5.webshots.net/t/62/662/1/65/37/2734165370065431685SXLeMl_th.jpg




----- Original Message -----
From: "steven boortz" <vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com>
To: "Andy Cost" <andycost at embarqmail.com>
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:28:19 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How many G's before a roadster flips?



it says i'm forbidden to look at this.B  that must mean it's REALLY good.




From: Andy Cost <andycost at embarqmail.com>
To: Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:49:52 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] How many G's before a roadster flips?

According to my MaxQdata it is 1.73 G's before the inside tires leave the
pavement.

http://image62.webshots.com/662/1/65/37/2734165370065431685SXLeMl_ph.jpg

Check out the video on webshots.B  It's grainy but pretty cool to watch.

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From andycost at embarqmail.com  Mon Apr 27 09:54:05 2009
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Embarq Customer)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:54:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] How many G's before a roadster flips?
In-Reply-To: <1305475025.4942031240847269824.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com>
Message-ID: <1058477628.4943711240847645751.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com>

One more try.



http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2734165370065431685SXLeMl?vhost=rides




----- Original Message -----
From: "Embarq Customer" <andycost at embarqmail.com>
To: "datsun-roadsters" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Cc: "steven boortz" <vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:47:49 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How many G's before a roadster flips?




Try this link.



http://thumb5.webshots.net/t/62/662/1/65/37/2734165370065431685SXLeMl_th.jpg




----- Original Message -----
From: "steven boortz" <vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com>
To: "Andy Cost" <andycost at embarqmail.com>
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:28:19 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How many G's before a roadster flips?



it says i'm forbidden to look at this.B  that must mean it's REALLY good.




From: Andy Cost <andycost at embarqmail.com>
To: Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:49:52 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] How many G's before a roadster flips?

According to my MaxQdata it is 1.73 G's before the inside tires leave the
pavement.

http://image62.webshots.com/662/1/65/37/2734165370065431685SXLeMl_ph.jpg

Check out the video on webshots.B  It's grainy but pretty cool to watch.

Andy
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From kkoskela at mlode.com  Mon Apr 27 11:01:20 2009
From: kkoskela at mlode.com (Kevin Koskela)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:01:20 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] '67.5 Roaster for sale - $6900
Message-ID: <49F5E4E0.2070002@mlode.com>

The time has come to sell the green machine.  It's a 67 1/2 in great 
shape as you can see from the pictures.  It would be a great car for 
someone who wanted to get into the Datsun Roadster scene as the car is 
solid mechanically and comes with a bunch of spare parts that I have 
collected over the years.

You can see my cars.com ad and some pictures here:
http://autos.yahoo.com/used-cars/datsun-1600-cars288376402

The title is totally clean. I've had the car for about 10 years and 
bought it from a friend of mine when he moved to PA. He had it for 
probably about 10 years before me. The car has been professionally 
painted and is a metallic racing green color. Looks better in person 
than on the pictures. I've had the interior professionally restored and 
had a roll bar and head rests from another Datsun roadster installed. 
Also, the interior is done in leather with very nice carpets. I had a 
new soft top installed at the same time. The car has been garaged the 
whole time and is super clean - no rust. The soft top looks pretty much 
brand new. Some of the other new parts are a restored (new) radiator, a 
newly machined cylinder head, and a few other odds and ends. It is 
mostly original.

One other thing is I have about 10 boxes of spare parts - a little of 
just about everything. For my full price ($6900 asking), you can have 
any or all of these parts you want. I will be selling whatever the buyer 
of this car doesn't want on ebay. There is easily over $1000 of parts 
here including some hard to find latches and extra soft top frame and a 
bunch of gauges. Also, I have 95% of a spare engine that could be used 
to build a stroker (bored out) motor if one wanted to.

It's a great car that I wouldn't be selling but my wife and I are 
downsizing now that the boys are off the college.

Call or email with questions.

Thanks!
Kevin
(209) 743-9757 (cell)

From alagams at juno.com  Mon Apr 27 11:23:37 2009
From: alagams at juno.com (alagams at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:23:37 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2009 pictures
Message-ID: <20090427.132337.11298.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>

Great pic's as always Alvin................If I didn't know better I think you
and Brisco could be twins.
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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Mon Apr 27 11:49:27 2009
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:49:27 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] New Roadster Owner
In-Reply-To: <BAY139-W489DC9E1E2A031BBC4C0679B710@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY139-W489DC9E1E2A031BBC4C0679B710@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <002301c9c760$83b33f00$8b19bd00$@net>

  I have my Datsun insured along with all my other cars.  Since we have
fewer drivers that cars on our policy, it only costs me about $79 a year for
full coverage at a fixed value of $7500.  Am I the only one that takes
advantage of this break?

Paul
Ohio

-----Original Message-----
On Behalf Of Dan Kroninger

I am now trying to get all my little yellow duckies in a row, and am doing
the
final determination on insurance carriers.  I am getting the best quote from
Hagerty and they sound like they offer really great coverage.  I was
wondering
what others thought of Hagerty, and if anyone had any suggestions based on
the
coverage that they use.  Please let me know.

Thanks,

Dan

From jeffzster at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 27 12:53:27 2009
From: jeffzster at yahoo.com (Jeff Torres)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:53:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang Roadster Classic Winners List 2009
Message-ID: <882268.77986.qm@web110412.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hello All!!
 
I have posted on the website a complete list of 2009 Show winners!
 
See you all soon!!
 
Jeff & Gabby Torres

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Mon Apr 27 13:51:49 2009
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:51:49 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang Roadster Classic Winners List 2009
In-Reply-To: <882268.77986.qm@web110412.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <882268.77986.qm@web110412.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <005901c9c771$9ba196a0$d2e4c3e0$@net>

  For those of us old folks on the list suffering from CRS, how about a link
to that web site you mentioned?

Paul
Ohio

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Torres
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 2:53 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang Roadster Classic Winners List 2009

Hello All!!
 
I have posted on the website a complete list of 2009 Show winners!
 
See you all soon!!
 
Jeff & Gabby Torres
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From roadsterx at hotmail.com  Mon Apr 27 14:07:08 2009
From: roadsterx at hotmail.com (michael poorboy)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:07:08 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang Roadster Classic Winners List 2009
In-Reply-To: <005901c9c771$9ba196a0$d2e4c3e0$@net>
References: <882268.77986.qm@web110412.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<005901c9c771$9ba196a0$d2e4c3e0$@net>
Message-ID: <BAY110-W17A447D6BC8978E0AF67DBBF710@phx.gbl>

Paul,

I found it here :



http://solvangshow.com/page0015.html



Mike

> From: 9laser3 at bright.net
> To: jeffzster at yahoo.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:51:49 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Solvang Roadster Classic Winners List 2009
>
> For those of us old folks on the list suffering from CRS, how about a link
> to that web site you mentioned?
>
> Paul
> Ohio
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Torres
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 2:53 PM
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang Roadster Classic Winners List 2009
>
> Hello All!!
>
> I have posted on the website a complete list of 2009 Show winners!
>
> See you all soon!!
>
> Jeff & Gabby Torres
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From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 27 14:56:47 2009
From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:56:47 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
Message-ID: <3275224.1240865808977.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I can, but it will have to wait until I get home to Montana.  I attended the Solvang show and will be flying home Friday.  Dewey 

-----Original Message-----
>From: Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
>Sent: Apr 24, 2009 10:41 AM
>To: Dewey Hahlbohm <hahlbohmd at earthlink.net>
>Cc: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
>
>Dewey,
>
>Can you tell me how long that master cylinder is?  Length from the 
>firewall out to the farthest point?  Thanks.
>
>Eddie
>
>Dewey Hahlbohm wrote:
>> Eddie, I had a 510 master in my 2000, worked fine until I mounted the Mikuni carbs, then the clearance became an issue.  The 510 master is longer than the roadster master and I was unable to install that way.  I had to remove the 510 master and replace it with a roadster master.  Other than that, the 510 master worked great.  I am not aware of any other clearance issues.  Good luck, Dewey 
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>   
>>> From: Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
>>> Sent: Apr 23, 2009 9:18 PM
>>> To: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>>> Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've checked the 311s site, and there is some info on using a 510 master 
>>> cylinder in the wiki section.  Someone else talked about using a 280Z 
>>> master cylinder as well.
>>>
>>> Since I'm not comfortable with the single reservoir system, can anyone 
>>> tell me what master cylinders work?
>>>
>>> Are those the only two?
>>>
>>> What about clearance issues? 
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Eddie
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From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 27 15:04:01 2009
From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:04:01 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [Roadsters] my son's roadster clutching
Message-ID: <24432720.1240866242760.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Pat and all, I replaced the shift forks in my 5 speed last summer and found it hard shifting for several hundred miles afterward.  That has improved, but still not as easy/smooth as it was before hand.  Dewey

-----Original Message-----
>From: Pat Horne <pat at hornesystemstx.com>
>Sent: Apr 24, 2009 11:59 AM
>To: nmleeds at mindspring.com
>Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my son's roadster clutching
>
>What exactly are you referring to  as "hard shifting"? I recall that 
>there was something long ago where folks were discussing problems with 
>newly rebuilt transmissions getting the shifter out of one gear and into 
>the next due to what seemed to be tight detents, but if they slapped the 
>shifter out of gear, it worked fine. This was not the case of grinding 
>gears. I seem to recall that it was one particular type of trans, though 
>I can't recall which version. Anyway, the cure was to go with Redline 
>trans fluid, although I don't recall which one. This "might" be in the 
>archives, but it was probably 15 years ago.
>
>Hope that helps.
>
>Peace,
>Pat
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>>   
>>> From: barterdude <barterdude at comcast.net>
>>> Sent: Apr 24, 2009 10:03 AM
>>> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>>> Subject: [Roadsters] my son's roadster clutching
>>>
>>> Okay - new rebuilt transmission, new clutch, son is still complaining of
>>> hard shifting even after bleeding the clutch slave cylinder.  Do we have to
>>> replace both master and slave or which would be the most likely candidate if
>>> only one?
>>>
>>>
>>>     
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From: VulForge at aol.com (VulForge at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:24:54 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Insurance
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I have my Datsun insured along with all my other cars.  Since  we have
fewer drivers that cars on our policy, it only costs me about $79 a  year 
for
full coverage at a fixed value of $7500.  Am I the only one  that takes
advantage of this break?

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Ohio


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From roadsterx at hotmail.com  Mon Apr 27 17:56:44 2009
From: roadsterx at hotmail.com (michael poorboy)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:56:44 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters]  How long have you been on the mailing list ?
Message-ID: <BAY110-W24E5E91E4432233791C678BF710@phx.gbl>

Hey All,

I have been working on my Roadster after a few years of just sitting there,
and was wondering how long everyone

has been on the Roadster mailing list. I see a few of you who were on before I
signed up, and a bunch of new faces.

The archives go back to 99' , and I was on a few years before then. I am
thinking sometime around 97'.



Mike

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From roadsterx at hotmail.com  Mon Apr 27 18:04:06 2009
From: roadsterx at hotmail.com (michael poorboy)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 00:04:06 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
In-Reply-To: <3275224.1240865808977.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <3275224.1240865808977.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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Hey Eddie,

I have either a truck master or a 510 one. It was actually rotated a few
degrees to clear the Solexes. It will be swapped out

with a Wilwood or Tilton this Summer. By rotating it, the resevoir can drip
brake fluid on the exhuast.



Mike





> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:56:47 -0700
> From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net
> To: eddietude at socal.rr.com
> CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
>
> I can, but it will have to wait until I get home to Montana. I attended the
Solvang show and will be flying home Friday. Dewey
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
> >Sent: Apr 24, 2009 10:41 AM
> >To: Dewey Hahlbohm <hahlbohmd at earthlink.net>
> >Cc: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
> >
> >Dewey,
> >
> >Can you tell me how long that master cylinder is? Length from the
> >firewall out to the farthest point? Thanks.
> >
> >Eddie
> >
> >Dewey Hahlbohm wrote:
> >> Eddie, I had a 510 master in my 2000, worked fine until I mounted the
Mikuni carbs, then the clearance became an issue. The 510 master is longer
than the roadster master and I was unable to install that way. I had to remove
the 510 master and replace it with a roadster master. Other than that, the 510
master worked great. I am not aware of any other clearance issues. Good luck,
Dewey
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>
> >>> From: Eddie <eddietude at socal.rr.com>
> >>> Sent: Apr 23, 2009 9:18 PM
> >>> To: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> >>> Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Master Cylinder alternatives
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> I've checked the 311s site, and there is some info on using a 510 master
> >>> cylinder in the wiki section. Someone else talked about using a 280Z
> >>> master cylinder as well.
> >>>
> >>> Since I'm not comfortable with the single reservoir system, can anyone
> >>> tell me what master cylinders work?
> >>>
> >>> Are those the only two?
> >>>
> >>> What about clearance issues?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> Eddie
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From svedise at hotmail.com  Mon Apr 27 18:54:58 2009
From: svedise at hotmail.com (Jim Svedise)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:54:58 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang
In-Reply-To: <BAY136-W3954FD29D34B9946ADAA48B4710@phx.gbl>
	<SNT104-W49C7C6D65231B43CEE5A94B5710@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY136-W3954FD29D34B9946ADAA48B4710@phx.gbl>
	<SNT104-W49C7C6D65231B43CEE5A94B5710@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY136-DS47DE68426D4651A034AD7B46E0@phx.gbl>

What number pic found monkey butt and wife and monkey butt but not me . The
ride was great cruising at between 80 and 90 most of time and 110 for about 5
min. racked up about 2400 miles in 4 days the car LOVE'S it. It was the best
show yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks again to Jeff and crew.

Jim & Susan Svedise
70 2000 SU




Jim!
i took a picture of you, and the monkey butt, please check out the album it's
done!
hope you're trip was safe(and fun!)

Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20




> we just came back from the Solvang meet. Want to say thanks to Jeff & Gabby
> Torres for one of the best meets ever!! and from what we hear it's going to
be
> better next year so we expect that all of you will there next year!!
>
>
>
> thanks again to Jeff & crew for all your hard work!
>
>
>
> Jim & Susan Monkey Butt award winners
>
it out.

From vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 27 19:33:54 2009
From: vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com (Vince Strazzabosco)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:33:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Insurance
Message-ID: <360237.25112.qm@web33502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Interesting, does this also give you liability coverage, etc in addition to
the coverage to the agreed value??

Thanks,

vince

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> all my other cars.  Since  we have
> fewer
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> about $79 a  year 
> for
>
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> only one  that takes
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> 
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> 
> 
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From pat at hornesystemstx.com  Mon Apr 27 20:38:48 2009
From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:38:48 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
In-Reply-To: <BAY110-W24E5E91E4432233791C678BF710@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY110-W24E5E91E4432233791C678BF710@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <49F66C38.3080400@hornesystemstx.com>

I was one of those early folks, about 1992 or so as I recall. We had Tom 
Walter, Ma Roadster (I don't remember her name) and some others. Gordon, 
weren't you around then too?

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake michael poorboy, On 4/27/2009 6:56 PM:
> Hey All,
>
> I have been working on my Roadster after a few years of just sitting there,
> and was wondering how long everyone
>
> has been on the Roadster mailing list. I see a few of you who were on before I
> signed up, and a bunch of new faces.
>
> The archives go back to 99' , and I was on a few years before then. I am
> thinking sometime around 97'.
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> 68' 2000 EP Race Car
>
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From vlaury at roadrunner.com  Mon Apr 27 21:25:45 2009
From: vlaury at roadrunner.com (Victor Laury)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:25:45 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
In-Reply-To: <49F66C38.3080400@hornesystemstx.com>
Message-ID: <7117492DA7514CFA99548BC0D8626926@datsunvicPC>

I came on board in late 96 (I think.. tabun). 1st thing I did was to DL the
oringnal archives (Iong lost) to see what I had missed ( alot!)

> Ma Roadster (I don't remember her name)
Suze Hammond

Pat, you used "Patrick J Horne" the "Peace" and the "Habitat for humanity"
sig line was always there

Crawford Griffith - I think he posted one of the very few first posts

Tom ended every post with "Cheers"

Dana Nojima moved all over the country but stayed with the list.

Big Posters - Where are they Now?
Blair Barondes
Chris Coker
Dave Coleman - Penned a History on Nissan paper for college with the list as
an editor- That paper has been copied over and over again thanks to the
internet
Roger Garnett - Another early list pioneer
Chance C. Geurin
Ken Savage
Stephan Sochoux


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pat Horne
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:39 PM
To: michael poorboy
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?


I was one of those early folks, about 1992 or so as I recall. We had Tom
Walter, Ma Roadster (I don't remember her name) and some others. Gordon,
weren't you around then too?

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake michael poorboy, On 4/27/2009 6:56 PM:
> Hey All,
>
> I have been working on my Roadster after a few years of just sitting
> there, and was wondering how long everyone
>
> has been on the Roadster mailing list. I see a few of you who were on
> before I signed up, and a bunch of new faces.
>
> The archives go back to 99' , and I was on a few years before then. I
> am thinking sometime around 97'.
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> 68' 2000 EP Race Car

Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems
(512) 797-7501 Voice		5026 FM 2001
Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com	Lockhart, TX 78644-4443
www.hornesystemstx.com
-- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT --
________________________________________

From pat at hornesystemstx.com  Mon Apr 27 21:31:58 2009
From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:31:58 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
In-Reply-To: <7117492DA7514CFA99548BC0D8626926@datsunvicPC>
References: <7117492DA7514CFA99548BC0D8626926@datsunvicPC>
Message-ID: <49F678AE.3010507@hornesystemstx.com>

Yup, Suze Hammond. She was a Roadster mechanic. As I recall she had a 
stash of Roadsters out in her back yard, one rolling body had a rather 
substantial tree growing up through the shifter hole! Wonder what became 
of her.

Tom Walter is still in the Austin area. I think he still watches this 
list from time to time. He is now out of Roadsters and building his own 
plane. I'm not much into small aircraft and would rather stay on the 
ground with bugs in my teeth! DAMN! I need to get my 67.5 back on the 
road! The engine rebuild has been on hold for more than too long now.

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Victor Laury, On 4/27/2009 10:25 PM:
> I came on board in late 96 (I think.. tabun). 1st thing I did was to DL the
> oringnal archives (Iong lost) to see what I had missed ( alot!)
>
>   
>> Ma Roadster (I don't remember her name) 
>>     
> Suze Hammond
>
>
>   
> Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems 
> (512) 797-7501 Voice		5026 FM 2001
> Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com	Lockhart, TX 78644-4443
> www.hornesystemstx.com
> -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT --
> ________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>   

-- 
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(512) 797-7501 Voice		5026 FM 2001
Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com	Lockhart, TX 78644-4443
www.hornesystemstx.com
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From pat at hornesystemstx.com  Mon Apr 27 21:34:47 2009
From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:34:47 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Megasquirt and/or Megajolt users?
Message-ID: <49F67957.3050903@hornesystemstx.com>

I am looking to build my 1600 up as a crank fire car when I rebuild the 
engine. It will be a stroker, but I haven't decided whether to go with 
EFI, or carbs. Has anyone done the crank fire conversion with the Mega* 
conversion? I looked at the archives some time ago, but am looking for 
new information, if it is out there.

Thanks.

Peace,
Pat

-- 
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(512) 797-7501 Voice		5026 FM 2001
Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com	Lockhart, TX 78644-4443
www.hornesystemstx.com
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From roadsterx at hotmail.com  Mon Apr 27 21:42:58 2009
From: roadsterx at hotmail.com (michael poorboy)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:42:58 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
In-Reply-To: <7117492DA7514CFA99548BC0D8626926@datsunvicPC>
References: <49F66C38.3080400@hornesystemstx.com>
	<7117492DA7514CFA99548BC0D8626926@datsunvicPC>
Message-ID: <BAY110-W459F3786D9A0998C48BF3ABF6E0@phx.gbl>

Vic,

I only remember a few of the names you listed . Gordon, Tom, Jim Tyler, Pina,
a few other prime contributors.

I know a lot of folks moved on to 311S.org when it was set up, but I sure do
miss the days of the active Roadster list.

We could get a good accurate answer in a matter of a day back then. I met a
lot of people on this list, and still keep

in touch. I figured a lot of people like myself are in lurk mode most of the
time, and don't even reply :( .I sure hope all

of you old list members are well, and hope to see you at an event in the
future. I might bite the bullitt, and tow the race

car down to Shasta this year for the 25th Anniversary.



Mike



> From: vlaury at roadrunner.com
> To: pat at hornesystemstx.com; roadsterx at hotmail.com
> CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:25:45 -0700
>
> I came on board in late 96 (I think.. tabun). 1st thing I did was to DL the
> oringnal archives (Iong lost) to see what I had missed ( alot!)
>
> > Ma Roadster (I don't remember her name)
> Suze Hammond
>
> Pat, you used "Patrick J Horne" the "Peace" and the "Habitat for humanity"
> sig line was always there
>
> Crawford Griffith - I think he posted one of the very few first posts
>
> Tom ended every post with "Cheers"
>
> Dana Nojima moved all over the country but stayed with the list.
>
> Big Posters - Where are they Now?
> Blair Barondes
> Chris Coker
> Dave Coleman - Penned a History on Nissan paper for college with the list
as
> an editor- That paper has been copied over and over again thanks to the
> internet
> Roger Garnett - Another early list pioneer
> Chance C. Geurin
> Ken Savage
> Stephan Sochoux
>
>

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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Mon Apr 27 22:14:41 2009
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:14:41 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
In-Reply-To: <49F66C38.3080400@hornesystemstx.com>
References: <BAY110-W24E5E91E4432233791C678BF710@phx.gbl>
	<49F66C38.3080400@hornesystemstx.com>
Message-ID: <005f01c9c7b7$db531e90$91f95bb0$@net>

I've been on the Roadster list for so long I can't even remember when I
started. It had to have been at least as far back as the early 1990's. I
seem to recall Pat first showing up, but I'm not positive of that.

Gordon Glasgow
-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pat Horne
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:39 PM
To: michael poorboy
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?

I was one of those early folks, about 1992 or so as I recall. We had Tom 
Walter, Ma Roadster (I don't remember her name) and some others. Gordon, 
weren't you around then too?

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake michael poorboy, On 4/27/2009 6:56 PM:
> Hey All,
>
> I have been working on my Roadster after a few years of just sitting
there,
> and was wondering how long everyone
>
> has been on the Roadster mailing list. I see a few of you who were on
before I
> signed up, and a bunch of new faces.
>
> The archives go back to 99' , and I was on a few years before then. I am
> thinking sometime around 97'.
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> 68' 2000 EP Race Car

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Mon Apr 27 22:24:51 2009
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:24:51 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Megasquirt and/or Megajolt users?
References: <49F67957.3050903@hornesystemstx.com>
Message-ID: <ADBA1C2DA09E4AF882CE6B18B62567AE@Daryl>

I have done the Ford EDIS crankfire setup with a 36-1 wheel on the front 
pulley. I have used both Megajolt Jr. and Megasquirt and both work great.
Did a writeup with pictures here:
http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.EDISDizzy-lessIgnition

Happy to try to answer any questions you may have.........

Daryl

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pat Horne" <pat at hornesystemstx.com>
Subject: [Roadsters] Megasquirt and/or Megajolt users?


>I am looking to build my 1600 up as a crank fire car when I rebuild the 
>engine. It will be a stroker, but I haven't decided whether to go with EFI, 
>or carbs. Has anyone done the crank fire conversion with the Mega* 
>conversion? I looked at the archives some time ago, but am looking for new 
>information, if it is out there.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Peace,
> Pat

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Mon Apr 27 22:42:18 2009
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:42:18 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
In-Reply-To: <7117492DA7514CFA99548BC0D8626926@datsunvicPC>
References: <49F66C38.3080400@hornesystemstx.com>
	<7117492DA7514CFA99548BC0D8626926@datsunvicPC>
Message-ID: <006301c9c7bb$b6da4760$248ed620$@net>

Dave Coleman, now there's an interesting story (younger list members going
"Oh, Gawd, another old fart story!" Yeah, just live with it.).

Dave started off as a NWDE member when he was still in high school in
Seattle. He was co-editor of the NWDELetter. Dropped an L-16 in his roadster
and got it running the day before he headed off to Harvey Mudd College in
Claremont, CA to major in mechanical engineering.

While he was there, he found out about a nationwide contest by Nissan to
take a bunch of engineering students on a tour of their facilities in Japan.
All you had to do was write an essay saying why you should be chosen. Well,
he got one of the slots and spent a couple of weeks there. Met the designers
of the 510 and the Sentra SE-R.

After graduation, he got a job doing product development work for RS
Akimoto. This put him in frequent contact with the people at Sport Compact
Car magazine. After Akimoto tanked, he went to work at SCC as their
Engineering Editor, where he played with all kinds of fun cars, including
some that got famous, like the "Disco Potato" Sentra and the "Blackbird" S13
240SX. Trivia point - I've ridden in the Disco Potato and Joanne has ridden
in the Blackbird. Joanne is his Dat-mom and he is her Dat-son.

A couple of years ago he left SCC and went to work for Mazda R&D, although
he continued to write the "Ask Dave" column in SCC. He was at Canby three
years ago and took me for a ride in his R32 Skyline (what a rough life!).
http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Canby_2006/Datson_and_Datmom.jpg
http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Canby_2006/Dave_in_R32_1.jpg
http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Canby_2006/License_plate_frame.jpg

Damn nice guy, a great writer and genuine car geek.

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Victor Laury
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 8:26 PM
To: pat at hornesystemstx.com; 'michael poorboy'
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?

I came on board in late 96 (I think.. tabun). 1st thing I did was to DL the
oringnal archives (Iong lost) to see what I had missed ( alot!)

> Ma Roadster (I don't remember her name)
Suze Hammond

Pat, you used "Patrick J Horne" the "Peace" and the "Habitat for humanity"
sig line was always there

Crawford Griffith - I think he posted one of the very few first posts

Tom ended every post with "Cheers"

Dana Nojima moved all over the country but stayed with the list.

Big Posters - Where are they Now?
Blair Barondes
Chris Coker
Dave Coleman - Penned a History on Nissan paper for college with the list as
an editor- That paper has been copied over and over again thanks to the
internet
Roger Garnett - Another early list pioneer
Chance C. Geurin
Ken Savage
Stephan Sochoux

From fj201 at cox.net  Mon Apr 27 22:47:19 2009
From: fj201 at cox.net (Ron Hamilton)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:47:19 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
In-Reply-To: <7117492DA7514CFA99548BC0D8626926@datsunvicPC>
References: <7117492DA7514CFA99548BC0D8626926@datsunvicPC>
Message-ID: <49F68A57.7070707@cox.net>

I must have been one of the older lurkers as I think I must have 
subscribed when I still had a hand crank computer!

Ron Hamilton (still fj20) but out of roadsters

Victor Laury wrote:
> I came on board in late 96 (I think.. tabun). 1st thing I did was to DL the
> oringnal archives (Iong lost) to see what I had missed ( alot!)
>
>   
>> Ma Roadster (I don't remember her name)
>>     
> Suze Hammond
>
> Pat, you used "Patrick J Horne" the "Peace" and the "Habitat for humanity"
> sig line was always there
>
> Crawford Griffith - I think he posted one of the very few first posts
>
> Tom ended every post with "Cheers"
>
> Dana Nojima moved all over the country but stayed with the list.
>
> Big Posters - Where are they Now?
> Blair Barondes
> Chris Coker
> Dave Coleman - Penned a History on Nissan paper for college with the list as
> an editor- That paper has been copied over and over again thanks to the
> internet
> Roger Garnett - Another early list pioneer
> Chance C. Geurin
> Ken Savage
> Stephan Sochoux
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pat Horne
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:39 PM
> To: michael poorboy
> Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
>
>
> I was one of those early folks, about 1992 or so as I recall. We had Tom
> Walter, Ma Roadster (I don't remember her name) and some others. Gordon,
> weren't you around then too?
>
> Peace,
> Pat
>
> Thusly spake michael poorboy, On 4/27/2009 6:56 PM:
>   
>> Hey All,
>>
>> I have been working on my Roadster after a few years of just sitting
>> there, and was wondering how long everyone
>>
>> has been on the Roadster mailing list. I see a few of you who were on
>> before I signed up, and a bunch of new faces.
>>
>> The archives go back to 99' , and I was on a few years before then. I
>> am thinking sometime around 97'.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> 68' 2000 EP Race Car

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Mon Apr 27 22:55:22 2009
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:55:22 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Megasquirt and/or Megajolt users?
Message-ID: <797786A370A14D54B9E5E7CD25EA52FD@Daryl>

Just went and looked at the website and thought I should note a couple of 
changes.
1) I have removed the oil feed line from the coil mount as it is not 
nescessary.
2) I also removed the leg bolted at the oil pump mount which seemed 
overkill. (but I wanted to make sure it was solid at the time...)
3) There is a comment in the writeup about "plugging in  numbers" - The 
Megajolt Jr. was pretty basic when I used it, and pretty much all you had to 
do was set up your RPM and Manifold pressure axis, then fill in your 
ignition advance in the grid.
I believe it may be a little more involved now, and the Megasquirt is more 
involved, depending on what you want to incorporate (temperature related 
advance, fan control, rev limits, etc.........) and requires some board 
mods - wiring in jumpers/changing components. But, using the Megasquirt 
doesn't cost much more, and gives you the option to go full efi later if you 
like. (A freind has done just that, running just the EDIS system for a 
couple of years now.)

There is also the option to control the coils directly with the Megasquirt 
and also requires some wiring/component mods.

Just had my car down at Ross's place today in preparation for the BC Spring 
Thaw Run on Friday......Persistant oil leak!

Daryl

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daryl Smith" <drlsmith at dccnet.com>
To: <pat at hornesystemstx.com>; "datsun Roadster List" 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Megasquirt and/or Megajolt users?


>I have done the Ford EDIS crankfire setup with a 36-1 wheel on the front 
>pulley. I have used both Megajolt Jr. and Megasquirt and both work great.
> Did a writeup with pictures here:
> http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.EDISDizzy-lessIgnition
>
> Happy to try to answer any questions you may have.........
>
> Daryl
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Pat Horne" <pat at hornesystemstx.com>
> Subject: [Roadsters] Megasquirt and/or Megajolt users?
>
>
>>I am looking to build my 1600 up as a crank fire car when I rebuild the 
>>engine. It will be a stroker, but I haven't decided whether to go with 
>>EFI, or carbs. Has anyone done the crank fire conversion with the Mega* 
>>conversion? I looked at the archives some time ago, but am looking for new 
>>information, if it is out there.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Peace,
>> Pat

From roadsterx at hotmail.com  Mon Apr 27 23:17:24 2009
From: roadsterx at hotmail.com (michael poorboy)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:17:24 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
In-Reply-To: <49F68A57.7070707@cox.net>
References: <7117492DA7514CFA99548BC0D8626926@datsunvicPC>
	<49F68A57.7070707@cox.net>
Message-ID: <BAY110-W1898270E44C24DFC8BA7E3BF6E0@phx.gbl>

Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:47:19 -0700
From: fj201 at cox.net
To: vlaury at roadrunner.com
CC: pat at hornesystemstx.com; roadsterx at hotmail.com;
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?

I must have been one of the older lurkers as I think I must have subscribed
when I still had a hand crank computer!

Ron Hamilton (still fj20) but out of roadsters





I figured some of us old timers were still on here :) . A long time ago Ron
sent me an email with a list containing

characteristics of Roadster part vendors, it didn't have any names next to any
of them. I filled in the blanks of who

I thought fit each one of them, and I got all of them right.



I know we drooled over your FJ powered Roadster. I saw my first FJ conversion
in Les's shop back in 96' on my way

back up to Idaho. I don't think there were any SR conversions done yet.



it is good to hear from you Ron !!  The hand cranked computer must have been
before dial up ;)



Mike




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From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Mon Apr 27 23:23:32 2009
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:23:32 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Persistant Oil Leak!
Message-ID: <24B846FC1A1A4204A2E5EEB0A1E2237D@Daryl>

Pushing to get the car ready for Friday. 
I've been fighting an oilpan gasket leak for the last couple of weeks.
I didn't have a small torque wrench, so have been using a 1/4" drive ratchet and holding it at the head when tightening.......I'm on my third gasket!! Guess I'm still tightening it too much! Duh!
On the latest gasket, it wasn't leaking real bad, but enough to worry me when I first started it. A day later, it hardly leaked at all, and I was going to let it be and just drive it. 
Well when I got to Ross's, I thought after installing a comp sway bar, a backup light, and adjusting some wiring, that I'd "snug up" the oilpan bolts while I was under there.....MISTAKE!!!! It's REALLY leaking now, holy crap, I think I was lucky to make it home!
So, Back to Ross's shop in the morning for a new gasket.................And I'll use a proper torque wrench this time!!! 

Any other tips??

Anyone up for having a 4 or 5 litre aluminum oilpan with a nice thick flange manufactured???

Daryl Smith
(oilpan challenged, not bedpan......)

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Mon Apr 27 23:28:10 2009
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:28:10 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
References: <BAY110-W24E5E91E4432233791C678BF710@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5202425CF14C46F7A715056E13DB575A@Daryl>

I don't remember, but it has to be 8 or 9 yrs now.....??
Thanks to all for the answers to my newbie questions back then, and still 
some now it seems..........

Daryl

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "michael poorboy" <roadsterx at hotmail.com>

> Hey All,
>
> I have been working on my Roadster after a few years of just sitting 
> there,
> and was wondering how long everyone
>
> has been on the Roadster mailing list. I see a few of you who were on 
> before I
> signed up, and a bunch of new faces.
>
> The archives go back to 99' , and I was on a few years before then. I am
> thinking sometime around 97'.
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> 68' 2000 EP Race Car

From efrisbee at charter.net  Tue Apr 28 00:01:59 2009
From: efrisbee at charter.net (Eric Frisbee)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 01:01:59 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
In-Reply-To: <BAY110-W24E5E91E4432233791C678BF710@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <PGECLILGAOHNLNJIFPMACEPDCKAA.efrisbee@charter.net>

Been here since '94, I think?   My brother told about this great roadster
resource on the internet, so I joined.  It was a great resource for sure.

Back to lurking and hitting the delete key.
Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of michael poorboy
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 6:57 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?


Hey All,

I have been working on my Roadster after a few years of just sitting there,
and was wondering how long everyone

has been on the Roadster mailing list. I see a few of you who were on before
I
signed up, and a bunch of new faces.

The archives go back to 99' , and I was on a few years before then. I am
thinking sometime around 97'.



Mike

68' 2000 EP Race Car

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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Tue Apr 28 03:58:40 2009
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:58:40 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
In-Reply-To: <PGECLILGAOHNLNJIFPMACEPDCKAA.efrisbee@charter.net>
References: <BAY110-W24E5E91E4432233791C678BF710@phx.gbl>
	<PGECLILGAOHNLNJIFPMACEPDCKAA.efrisbee@charter.net>
Message-ID: <008a01c9c7e7$e9361be0$bba253a0$@net>

  I drove my roadster home in June of 1996.  Didn't find the list for a year
or two after that.  I sure wish I'd know about it when we stripped the car
down to a bare shell and put it all back together the next spring.  Took me
a year or so to figure out where all the pieces went!

  I think Chris Coker is still up in Michigan, but he sold his race car a
few years back.


Paul
Ohio 


-----Original Message-----
On Behalf Of michael poorboy
Hey All,

I have been working on my Roadster after a few years of just sitting there,
and was wondering how long everyone

has been on the Roadster mailing list. I see a few of you who were on before
I
signed up, and a bunch of new faces.

The archives go back to 99' , and I was on a few years before then. I am
thinking sometime around 97'.



Mike

68' 2000 EP Race Car

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Tue Apr 28 04:03:00 2009
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:03:00 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Persistant Oil Leak!
In-Reply-To: <24B846FC1A1A4204A2E5EEB0A1E2237D@Daryl>
References: <24B846FC1A1A4204A2E5EEB0A1E2237D@Daryl>
Message-ID: <008b01c9c7e8$84313fd0$8c93bf70$@net>

  Forget the gasket, use a can of Right Stuff.  It's like RTV in an aerosol
can and you can lay a nice even thin bead with it.  Then start in the middle
of each side of the block and slowly work down each side to the front &
back.  I'd remind you not to OVER TIGHTEN the bolts, but I think now you'll
remember.  Be sure to use lock washers.

  And tell Ross I said Hello.

Paul
Sloan Racing
Ohio

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daryl Smith
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 1:24 AM
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: [Roadsters] Persistant Oil Leak!

Pushing to get the car ready for Friday. 
I've been fighting an oilpan gasket leak for the last couple of weeks.
I didn't have a small torque wrench, so have been using a 1/4" drive ratchet
and holding it at the head when tightening.......I'm on my third gasket!!
Guess I'm still tightening it too much! Duh!
On the latest gasket, it wasn't leaking real bad, but enough to worry me
when I first started it. A day later, it hardly leaked at all, and I was
going to let it be and just drive it. 
Well when I got to Ross's, I thought after installing a comp sway bar, a
backup light, and adjusting some wiring, that I'd "snug up" the oilpan bolts
while I was under there.....MISTAKE!!!! It's REALLY leaking now, holy crap,
I think I was lucky to make it home!
So, Back to Ross's shop in the morning for a new gasket.................And
I'll use a proper torque wrench this time!!! 

Any other tips??

Anyone up for having a 4 or 5 litre aluminum oilpan with a nice thick flange
manufactured???

Daryl Smith
(oilpan challenged, not bedpan......)
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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Tue Apr 28 05:43:11 2009
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:43:11 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Persistant Oil Leak!
Message-ID: <bfb.569c8ddc.372845cf@aol.com>

Is it a steel pan? If so make sure the bolt holes are not dimpled in from
being over tightened. A little work with a small hammer and a block of wood
will  do wonders.

Here is the trick I do with the 1600 valve cover. It might work with the
oil pan. First glue the gasket to the cover with yellow death super weather
strip adhesive. Now it will not leak from that side or squirm around. On the
 other side I spray the red Permatex gasket adhesive that comes in the
spray can.  Assemble while the adhesive is still wet. When it comes time to
remove the cover  a smack will break the red stuff loose. I have had the
valve
cover off a number  of times and the gasket is still fine. If this doesn't
seal it then the mating  surfaces are not meeting or the oil is coming from
somewhere else.

keith  williams
ccfcccs
_http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org_
(http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org/)

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In a message dated 4/27/2009 10:24:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
drlsmith at dccnet.com writes:

Pushing  to get the car ready for Friday.
I've been fighting an oilpan gasket leak  for the last couple of weeks.
I didn't have a small torque wrench, so have  been using a 1/4" drive
ratchet and holding it at the head when  tightening.......I'm on my third
gasket!! Guess I'm still tightening it too  much! Duh!
On the latest gasket, it wasn't leaking real bad, but enough to  worry me
when I first started it. A day later, it hardly leaked at all, and I  was
going to let it be and just drive it.
Well when I got to Ross's, I  thought after installing a comp sway bar, a
backup light, and adjusting some  wiring, that I'd "snug up" the oilpan bolts
while I was under  there.....MISTAKE!!!! It's REALLY leaking now, holy
crap, I think I was lucky  to make it home!
So, Back to Ross's shop in the morning for a new
gasket.................And I'll use a proper torque wrench this time!!!

Any other tips??

Anyone up for having a 4 or 5 litre aluminum  oilpan with a nice thick
flange manufactured???

Daryl Smith
(oilpan  challenged, not  bedpan......)
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From datsundoc at aol.com  Tue Apr 28 06:18:15 2009
From: datsundoc at aol.com (datsundoc at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:18:15 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
In-Reply-To: <005f01c9c7b7$db531e90$91f95bb0$@net>
References: <BAY110-W24E5E91E4432233791C678BF710@phx.gbl><49F66C38.3080400@hornesystemstx.com>
	<005f01c9c7b7$db531e90$91f95bb0$@net>
Message-ID: <8CB96128A8F9A2A-C7C-2D73@webmail-dh18.sysops.aol.com>

I know at least as early as 1992, maybe somewhat earlier? I remember Gordon and Tom from the early days, I think Stan was around too. It was early enough that having internet access at home was not that common and most of us had an .edu or business IP.

Mike Unger


-----Original Message-----
From: Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
To: pat at hornesystemstx.com; 'michael poorboy' <roadsterx at hotmail.com>
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:14 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?



I've been on the Roadster list for so long I can't even remember when I
started. It had to have been at least as far back as the early 1990's. I
seem to recall Pat first showing up, but I'm not positive of that.

Gordon Glasgow
-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pat Horne
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:39 PM
To: michael poorboy
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?

I was one of those early folks, about 1992 or so as I recall. We had Tom 
Walter, Ma Roadster (I don't remember her name) and some others. Gordon, 
weren't you around then too?

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake michael poorboy, On 4/27/2009 6:56 PM:
> Hey All,
>
> I have been working on my Roadster after a few years of just sitting
there,
> and was wondering how long everyone
>
> has been on the Roadster mailing list. I see a few of you who were on
before I
> signed up, and a bunch of new faces.
>
> The archives go back to 99' , and I was on a few years before then. I am
> thinking sometime around 97'.
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> 68' 2000 EP Race Car
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From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Tue Apr 28 08:02:34 2009
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:02:34 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
In-Reply-To: <8CB96128A8F9A2A-C7C-2D73@webmail-dh18.sysops.aol.com>
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	<49F66C38.3080400@hornesystemstx.com>
	<005f01c9c7b7$db531e90$91f95bb0$@net>
	<8CB96128A8F9A2A-C7C-2D73@webmail-dh18.sysops.aol.com>
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> Mike Unger

> I know at least as early as 1992, maybe somewhat earlier? I remember Gordon and Tom from the early days, I think Stan was around too. It was early enough that having internet access at home was not that common and most of us had an .edu or business IP.
>

Ah..., yes, the wonderful days of dial-up. I still have nightmares
about them! <grin>

Subscribed to this list in the summer of '98, just after getting back
from our first (all Datsun) Shasta Meet. I had been on the 510 list
for several years and already knew a number of the 510 and Roadster
folks from DFW, Austin and San Antonio, including the Costs, the
Hornes and Tom Walter. Met Gordon and a bunch of the other west coast
folks at Shasta. IIRC, '98 was the first year they had the Thunderhill
track day. Drove back out the next year and had even more fun. Never
did manage to get out there with a Datsun. Maybe someday we will. I
find it a bit ironic that while we've been primarily into 510s since
about a year after getting our first Roadster new in '70, the 510s are
in storage and I driving the Roadster at least occasionally.

-- 
Ron

From zariwny100 at comcast.net  Tue Apr 28 10:07:55 2009
From: zariwny100 at comcast.net (Kerry and Kae Zariwny)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:07:55 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
References: <7117492DA7514CFA99548BC0D8626926@datsunvicPC>
	<49F678AE.3010507@hornesystemstx.com>
Message-ID: <70C34D7F3C8947DDA72764093D67CFB7@gateway09>

Hey!
I got my roadster from Suze Hammond and Ed (back in 1986). Always loved 
going to their place, checking out the numerous roadsters in various degrees 
of repair (or disrepair, whatever the case may be). If I remember right, Ed 
also used to race roadsters at PIR.


Kerry Z
1968 1600
SW Portland


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pat Horne" <pat at hornesystemstx.com>
To: "Victor Laury" <vlaury at roadrunner.com>
Cc: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?


> Yup, Suze Hammond. She was a Roadster mechanic. As I recall she had a 
> stash of Roadsters out in her back yard, one rolling body had a rather 
> substantial tree growing up through the shifter hole! Wonder what became 
> of her.
>
> Tom Walter is still in the Austin area. I think he still watches this list 
> from time to time. He is now out of Roadsters and building his own plane. 
> I'm not much into small aircraft and would rather stay on the ground with 
> bugs in my teeth! DAMN! I need to get my 67.5 back on the road! The engine 
> rebuild has been on hold for more than too long now.
>
> Peace,
> Pat
>
> Thusly spake Victor Laury, On 4/27/2009 10:25 PM:
>> I came on board in late 96 (I think.. tabun). 1st thing I did was to DL 
>> the
>> oringnal archives (Iong lost) to see what I had missed ( alot!)
>>
>>
>>> Ma Roadster (I don't remember her name)
>> Suze Hammond
>>
>>
>>   Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001
>> Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443
>> www.hornesystemstx.com
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From jeffvh at aol.com  Tue Apr 28 11:23:37 2009
From: jeffvh at aol.com (jeffvh at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:23:37 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
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References: <BAY110-W24E5E91E4432233791C678BF710@phx.gbl>
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I'm sure I've been on since the 90's and transitioned through at least one list server change.
?
I'm enjoying networking? and sharing roadster pictures with?a bunch of Roadster list participants on Facebook.? Michael Carion / aka "Calspeed" just found some of us in the Facebook roadster community.? For me, the Facebook roadster group has the potential to be the 21st century version of the list..
Jeff Von Holten
SRL311 12920? Columbus OH


-----Original Message-----
From: michael poorboy <roadsterx at hotmail.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 7:56 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?



Hey All,

I have been working on my Roadster after a few years of just sitting there,
and was wondering how long everyone

has been on the Roadster mailing list. I see a few of you who were on before I
signed up, and a bunch of new faces.

The archives go back to 99' , and I was on a few years before then. I am
thinking sometime around 97'.



Mike

68' 2000 EP Race Car

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From RSCHLEGEL at OCSD.COM  Tue Apr 28 12:26:11 2009
From: RSCHLEGEL at OCSD.COM (Schlegel, Richard)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:26:11 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.25.1240941603.18018.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
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I have been on this list since way back in April of 2008! :-) Way back when
gasoline was $4.00 per gallon!
That is one reason why I bought my roadster.
Rich
'68 1600
http://picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich
Member of the SoCalROC
http://higenki.com/socalroc/
Video of SoCalROC from the 2008 Japanese Classic Car Show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-kkdkaRRco

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Tue Apr 28 12:55:41 2009
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:55:41 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
In-Reply-To: <70C34D7F3C8947DDA72764093D67CFB7@gateway09>
References: <7117492DA7514CFA99548BC0D8626926@datsunvicPC><49F678AE.3010507@hornesystemstx.com>
	<70C34D7F3C8947DDA72764093D67CFB7@gateway09>
Message-ID: <8CB964A0FC185A1-1018-10FF@WEBMAIL-DZ16.sysops.aol.com>

 I 've been reading and posting for way too long for the state of my Roadstr LOL
I remember the old mailed newsletters from So Cal, swap meets, Dean's old business address, Tom Walters etc
Maybe Victor can check his old archives for early posters to the List.

Linda
68 1600
prev 67 1600

From info at sportsimports.ca  Tue Apr 28 13:25:33 2009
From: info at sportsimports.ca (Ross Mullen / Sports Imports)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:25:33 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] test
Message-ID: <D2FEA53C-9545-4E69-AAE8-F406B06938C3@sportsimports.ca>

unsubscribe test for sports imports

From datrock at centurytel.net  Tue Apr 28 13:39:08 2009
From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:39:08 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
In-Reply-To: <7117492DA7514CFA99548BC0D8626926@datsunvicPC>
References: <7117492DA7514CFA99548BC0D8626926@datsunvicPC>
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 I've only been on the list for 8-9 years, probably about the time I 
went online. If I remember right, in the early 80's Sue Hammond and 
Randy Morgan ran a business called "Roadster Racewerks" in or around the 
Portland, Oregon area. They had a good supply of parts cars, some are 
still on by brothers 68 spl..... Bill Cole

From majorpikins at ca.rr.com  Tue Apr 28 17:36:45 2009
From: majorpikins at ca.rr.com (majorpikins at ca.rr.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:36:45 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
Message-ID: <20090428233645.6KEE5.297689.root@cdptpa-web19-z02>

I am looking for a nice set of 67.5 window winders, anyone have a pair they would be willing to part with or trade for? Please respond offline 

Thanks
--
Gary Griffin

From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net  Tue Apr 28 18:27:25 2009
From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (tomet9 at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:27:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang
Message-ID: <519084.19697.qm@web81004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

    Thanks to Jeff Torres and Co. for another great year! I have a friend that
owns a vette that loves to come with me to this show. He thinks it's the
greatest camaraderie there is. I agree. On another note, I found out that
Frank Monise was the driver of that roadster in the autographed pic by Pete
Brock that I won at the show. It's the victory lap at the west coast DP
championship in 68. I found out thru a friend that he lives right here in
Pasadena and owns a shop that caters mostly to brit cars. I'll go swing by one
day and send him back in time for a bit and show him the pic.

From wschaibe at ucsd.edu  Tue Apr 28 18:58:37 2009
From: wschaibe at ucsd.edu (Bill Schairer)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:58:37 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
In-Reply-To: <8CB964A0FC185A1-1018-10FF@WEBMAIL-DZ16.sysops.aol.com>
References: <7117492DA7514CFA99548BC0D8626926@datsunvicPC>
	<49F678AE.3010507@hornesystemstx.com>
	<70C34D7F3C8947DDA72764093D67CFB7@gateway09>
	<8CB964A0FC185A1-1018-10FF@WEBMAIL-DZ16.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <9a046f8763a3ace369fa38e0483c8056@ucsd.edu>

I think, somehow or another, Linda got me hooked up to the list in 2001?

Bill
San Diego
On Apr 28, 2009, at 11:55 AM, ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote:

>  I 've been reading and posting for way too long for the state of my 
> Roadstr LOL
> I remember the old mailed newsletters from So Cal, swap meets, Dean's 
> old business address, Tom Walters etc
> Maybe Victor can check his old archives for early posters to the List.
>
> Linda
> 68 1600
> prev 67 1600

From tomph at mchsi.com  Tue Apr 28 19:03:59 2009
From: tomph at mchsi.com (Tom Phelan)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:03:59 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] FW:  How long have you been on the mailing list ?
Message-ID: <000601c9c866$60fb9690$22f2c3b0$@com>

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Phelan [mailto:tomph at mchsi.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:47 PM
To: 'datsundoc at aol.com'
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?

I can believe the '92 timeframe. The list was already active when I joined
around '94 and I was on there for 2 years prior to my retirement in '96.
Great resource that got me going on the resurrection of my 68. Objective:
get it running well enough to go cross country to Vista, Ca. In '97 I made
that 1st cross country trip to Les's shop in Vista to do my frame off.
Stopped by and met Tom Walter in Texas on the way followed by an emergency
stop in Phoenix to see Ron Hamilton. All thanks to the "old timers" and the
Internet! What memories. 

http://home.mchsi.com/~tomph/trip/jpeg/tom.jpg

Tom (Iron Butt) Phelan
Back to lurking


<snip>
I know at least as early as 1992, maybe somewhat earlier? I remember Gordon
and Tom from the early days, I think Stan was around too. It was early
enough that having internet access at home was not that common and most of
us had an .edu or business IP.

Mike Unger

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Tue Apr 28 19:32:26 2009
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:32:26 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
In-Reply-To: <9a046f8763a3ace369fa38e0483c8056@ucsd.edu>
References: <7117492DA7514CFA99548BC0D8626926@datsunvicPC>
	<49F678AE.3010507@hornesystemstx.com>
	<70C34D7F3C8947DDA72764093D67CFB7@gateway09>
	<8CB964A0FC185A1-1018-10FF@WEBMAIL-DZ16.sysops.aol.com>
	<9a046f8763a3ace369fa38e0483c8056@ucsd.edu>
Message-ID: <8CB96817C8E62DB-17C0-7AD@webmail-md04.sysops.aol.com>

 Not sure how that might have happened, Bill.
?I do remember in the early days around when Frank Beer was around, there were little business cards for the SoCal Roadster group that we were instructed to leave on the windsheild of a Roadster if we saw one so that they could hook up with other owners.
Linda



 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Schairer <wschaibe at ucsd.edu>
To: ljordan704 at netscape.net
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 5:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?









I think, somehow or another, Linda got me hooked up to the list in 2001??
?

Bill?

San Diego?

On Apr 28, 2009, at 11:55 AM, ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote:?
?

>  I 've been reading and posting for way too long for the state of my 
> Roadstr LOL?

> I remember the old mailed newsletters from So Cal, swap meets, Dean's 
> old business address, Tom Walters etc?

> Maybe Victor can check his old archives for early posters to the List.?

>?

> Linda?

> 68 1600?

> prev 67 1600?

>?

>?
?

From roadsterx at hotmail.com  Tue Apr 28 19:44:24 2009
From: roadsterx at hotmail.com (michael poorboy)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 01:44:24 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
In-Reply-To: <8CB96817C8E62DB-17C0-7AD@webmail-md04.sysops.aol.com>
References: <7117492DA7514CFA99548BC0D8626926@datsunvicPC>
	<49F678AE.3010507@hornesystemstx.com>
	<70C34D7F3C8947DDA72764093D67CFB7@gateway09>
	<8CB964A0FC185A1-1018-10FF@WEBMAIL-DZ16.sysops.aol.com>
	<9a046f8763a3ace369fa38e0483c8056@ucsd.edu> 
	<8CB96817C8E62DB-17C0-7AD@webmail-md04.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY110-W12C43FBFD9185044997A55BF6F0@phx.gbl>

Linda,

How long ago were you passing out cards ? Back in 94' , when I lived in
Camarillo a guy came by when he saw that I had three Roadsters. We talked a
few times, and swapped some parts. He told me about the Solvang Roadster show
and gave me a Roadster Club card with I believe Les's number on it. I brought
my car to Solvang that year,and was totally shocked to see 33 Roadsters all in
a row.



BTW... I restored my first car by using the shop manual, the Rallye catalog
pictures, and copying the two other cars I had.

Mike

> To: wschaibe at ucsd.edu; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:32:26 -0400
> From: ljordan704 at netscape.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
>
> Not sure how that might have happened, Bill.
> ?I do remember in the early days around when Frank Beer was around, there
were little business cards for the SoCal Roadster group that we were
instructed to leave on the windsheild of a Roadster if we saw one so that they
could hook up with other owners.
> Linda
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Schairer <wschaibe at ucsd.edu>
> To: ljordan704 at netscape.net
> Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Sent: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 5:58 pm
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I think, somehow or another, Linda got me hooked up to the list in 2001??
> ?
>
> Bill?
>
> San Diego?
>
> On Apr 28, 2009, at 11:55 AM, ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote:?
> ?
>
> > I 've been reading and posting for way too long for the state of my
> > Roadstr LOL?
>
> > I remember the old mailed newsletters from So Cal, swap meets, Dean's
> > old business address, Tom Walters etc?
>
> > Maybe Victor can check his old archives for early posters to the List.?
>
> >?
>
> > Linda?
>
> > 68 1600?
>
> > prev 67 1600?
>
> >?
>
> >?
> ?
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From VulForge at aol.com  Tue Apr 28 20:55:05 2009
From: VulForge at aol.com (VulForge at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:55:05 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] insurrance
Message-ID: <d5c.3aa868ac.37291b89@aol.com>

Interesting, does this also give you liability coverage, etc in addition  to
the coverage to the agreed value??

Thanks,

vince


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From edmitche at gmail.com  Tue Apr 28 21:01:01 2009
From: edmitche at gmail.com (Ed Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:01:01 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
In-Reply-To: <9a046f8763a3ace369fa38e0483c8056@ucsd.edu>
References: <7117492DA7514CFA99548BC0D8626926@datsunvicPC><49F678AE.3010507@hornesystemstx.com><70C34D7F3C8947DDA72764093D67CFB7@gateway09><8CB964A0FC185A1-1018-10FF@WEBMAIL-DZ16.sysops.aol.com>
	<9a046f8763a3ace369fa38e0483c8056@ucsd.edu>
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I'm a "Noob kid on the block"...   : )

so new...I still have my "Mailing list subscription confirmation notice"

for mailing list Datsun-roadsters   Tue 10/21/2008 9:29 PM    ---  woot

Dead Bettys Been at upholstery for over a month...

Seems I live dead center in the land of maqana

Glad to hear slovang was so successful...I'm gunna be there next year...  :
)





Ed Mitchell
Las Cruces, NM
1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761
http://www.ziaroc.com/
http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG    _Dead Betty  : )



-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Schairer
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 6:59 PM
To: ljordan704 at netscape.net
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?

I think, somehow or another, Linda got me hooked up to the list in 2001?

Bill
San Diego
On Apr 28, 2009, at 11:55 AM, ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote:

>  I 've been reading and posting for way too long for the state of my
> Roadstr LOL
> I remember the old mailed newsletters from So Cal, swap meets, Dean's
> old business address, Tom Walters etc
> Maybe Victor can check his old archives for early posters to the List.
>
> Linda
> 68 1600
> prev 67 1600
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From fj20spl311 at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 28 22:11:07 2009
From: fj20spl311 at yahoo.com (philip erickson)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:11:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
Message-ID: <523605.58644.qm@web32006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I bought the first of my two roadsters in 95 and started lurking about one year later.

Phil

PS: checked the archives and found posts from Jan 99.

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Tue Apr 28 22:58:18 2009
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:58:18 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] FW:  How long have you been on the mailing list  ?
In-Reply-To: <000601c9c866$60fb9690$22f2c3b0$@com>
References: <000601c9c866$60fb9690$22f2c3b0$@com>
Message-ID: <004c01c9c887$1d6eca70$584c5f50$@net>

Tom, do you still have that Web site up where you documented your trip to
Vista? Your account of going through Jarrell, TX, after that F5 hit was the
best account I ever read. I still tell people about it.

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Phelan
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 6:04 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: How long have you been on the mailing list ?

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Phelan [mailto:tomph at mchsi.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:47 PM
To: 'datsundoc at aol.com'
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?

I can believe the '92 timeframe. The list was already active when I joined
around '94 and I was on there for 2 years prior to my retirement in '96.
Great resource that got me going on the resurrection of my 68. Objective:
get it running well enough to go cross country to Vista, Ca. In '97 I made
that 1st cross country trip to Les's shop in Vista to do my frame off.
Stopped by and met Tom Walter in Texas on the way followed by an emergency
stop in Phoenix to see Ron Hamilton. All thanks to the "old timers" and the
Internet! What memories. 

http://home.mchsi.com/~tomph/trip/jpeg/tom.jpg

Tom (Iron Butt) Phelan
Back to lurking


<snip>
I know at least as early as 1992, maybe somewhat earlier? I remember Gordon
and Tom from the early days, I think Stan was around too. It was early
enough that having internet access at home was not that common and most of
us had an .edu or business IP.

Mike Unger
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Tue Apr 28 22:58:20 2009
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 00:58:20 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
In-Reply-To: <523605.58644.qm@web32006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <523605.58644.qm@web32006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CB969E402EB89A-16E8-11B6@WEBMAIL-MZ10.sysops.aol.com>

 The archives have been partially purged, they used to go back further, I believe.
Linda


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: philip erickson <fj20spl311 at yahoo.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 9:11 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?










I bought the first of my two roadsters in 95 and started lurking about one year 
later.

Phil

PS: checked the archives and found posts from Jan 99.

From roadster at astound.net  Tue Apr 28 23:38:13 2009
From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:38:13 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
In-Reply-To: <BAY110-W24E5E91E4432233791C678BF710@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY110-W24E5E91E4432233791C678BF710@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BB85DC3E-B2E8-4F7E-9CDF-D5D3AC54AE9C@astound.net>

I think I subscribed in early 1997, when I needed information on  
disassembling my '68 2000. I had that car since 1971, and sadly had no  
idea the mailing list existed. I remember seeing names of major  
posters like Suze Hammond, Tom Walter, Gordon Glasgow, and thinking  
how the heck did they know so much about roadsters and why? I met  
Michael "Calspeed" Carrion right after that and started meeting some  
of these wonderful folks; a life-changing time for me. Also downloaded  
and printed some of the posts back to '95, got them buried somewhere.

I blame the list for my now owning 3-1/2 roadsters. Been in lurk mode  
the last few years due to personal reasons, but still here!

Fred Katz - So.SF

From andycost at embarqmail.com  Wed Apr 29 05:01:59 2009
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:01:59 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
In-Reply-To: <8CB969E402EB89A-16E8-11B6@WEBMAIL-MZ10.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <JBEKJICFFOFCBHHGLNFDKEMIDIAA.andycost@embarqmail.com>

Don't forget Leisure Suit Terry.

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Wed Apr 29 06:16:00 2009
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:16:00 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
Message-ID: <bf0.4d24a28f.37299f00@aol.com>

I've been on since the early 90's sometime. I remember when you couldn't
say "pipe nipple" on the list. Anybody remember why? (yes, I know)

keith  williams
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From sochoux at yahoo.com  Wed Apr 29 07:22:11 2009
From: sochoux at yahoo.com (Stephan Sochoux)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:22:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
Message-ID: <866535.67551.qm@web31808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hmm, i think i joined somewhere between '93 and '95  if memory serves me
right, and i don't even have a roadster any more. Still following some topics
though!

I sure miss my roadster :(

Stephan-

--- On Tue, 4/28/09, Fred Katz <roadster at astound.net> wrote:

From: Fred Katz <roadster at astound.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
To: "Datsun Roadsters" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 10:38 PM

I think I subscribed in early 1997, when I needed information on disassembling
my '68 2000. I had that car since 1971, and sadly had no idea the mailing list
existed. I remember seeing names of major posters like Suze Hammond, Tom
Walter, Gordon Glasgow, and thinking how the heck did they know so much about
roadsters and why? I met Michael "Calspeed" Carrion right after that and
started meeting some of these wonderful folks; a life-changing time for me.
Also downloaded and printed some of the posts back to '95, got them buried
somewhere.

I blame the list for my now owning 3-1/2 roadsters. Been in lurk mode the last
few years due to personal reasons, but still here!

Fred Katz - So.SF
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From rulee at att.net  Wed Apr 29 09:25:19 2009
From: rulee at att.net (russell southwell)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:25:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] How long,
Message-ID: <498906.6931.qm@web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

who could forget  Leisure Suit Terry, I still have my aluminium pie plate hat!
Russ Southwell  95"
69 2L , 70 1600

From pat at hornesystemstx.com  Wed Apr 29 09:50:08 2009
From: pat at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:50:08 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] How long,
In-Reply-To: <498906.6931.qm@web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <498906.6931.qm@web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <49F87730.3000809@hornesystemstx.com>

Ditto.

Most of his stuff was so off the wall, but my fondest memory was of his 
Roadster's "top" that he put up in bad weather - Garbage bags over the 
seats!

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake russell southwell, On 4/29/2009 10:25 AM:
> who could forget  Leisure Suit Terry, I still have my aluminium pie plate hat!
> Russ Southwell  95"
> 69 2L , 70 1600
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From stl at adnc.com  Wed Apr 29 10:46:39 2009
From: stl at adnc.com (stl at adnc.com)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:46:39 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list  ?
In-Reply-To: <BAY110-W12C43FBFD9185044997A55BF6F0@phx.gbl>
References: <7117492DA7514CFA99548BC0D8626926@datsunvicPC>
	<49F678AE.3010507@hornesystemstx.com>
	<70C34D7F3C8947DDA72764093D67CFB7@gateway09>
	<8CB964A0FC185A1-1018-10FF@WEBMAIL-DZ16.sysops.aol.com>
	<9a046f8763a3ace369fa38e0483c8056@ucsd.edu>
	<8CB96817C8E62DB-17C0-7AD@webmail-md04.sysops.aol.com>
	<BAY110-W12C43FBFD9185044997A55BF6F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20090429094639.4r4kb4ltkwk40s80@webmail.americanis.net>

Les Canaday and Mike Poorboy introduced me to the list at about the
same time back in late '99 or so.  I made my first post in early 2000.

My '69 2000 Roadster was purchased originally from Ken Keegan's
dealership in Los Gatos, CA.  I am the third owner and purchased it in
1971.  I drove it  until '78 when the engine gave up just as I arrived
in LA on my move from Northern California.  I had the engine rebuilt
in LA and drove the Roadster until 1980/81 or so in San Diego.  The
Roadster was stored until 1999, when I began to actively start the
restoration.

This year was my first Roadster Show in Solvang and it was great.  I
met  wonderful people whose names had been familiar to me from the
list, saw a few folks whom I had actually met over the years, and
loved the cars ... beautiful ... from those that still had old paint
(well oxidized like mine), to the restorations with gorgeous paint and
clean engines, to the modifieds with modern engines, all of the cars
were wonderful.

On the way home after the dinner I fell in behind the stunning red
pre-Roadster Datsun (Lopez?) on South 101 for awhile (I was driving a
green '69 MGB).  No traffic, setting sun, the Pacific Ocean spitting
distance away, running with a classic Datsun ... it was a great way to
end the show.

Names from the list that I don't see now include the Baumans and
Datsun Mike, as well as the others already mentioned.

Steve Landuyt
San Diego
'69 2000

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From tomph at mchsi.com  Wed Apr 29 18:30:05 2009
From: tomph at mchsi.com (Tom Phelan)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:30:05 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] FW:  How long have you been on the mailing list  ?
In-Reply-To: <004c01c9c887$1d6eca70$584c5f50$@net>
References: <000601c9c866$60fb9690$22f2c3b0$@com>
	<004c01c9c887$1d6eca70$584c5f50$@net>
Message-ID: <000001c9c92a$d0331d70$70995850$@com>

Hi Gordon,

Thanks for the kind words. As a matter of fact, it still exists at:

http://home.mchsi.com/~tomph/trip/family.html

Still in its original form, spelling errors and all. ;-)

Text of Jarrell is at 
http://home.mchsi.com/~tomph/trip/061097.html

Pictures at
http://home.mchsi.com/~tomph/trip/texas.html


My only regret to this day is that I still have not gotten up your way to
say Hi! Only 6 states left to drive through and then the roadster will have
hit all the lower 48. Got to be one more road trip left in this ole body &
car.  Hope to See Ya!

Tom


<snip>
Tom, do you still have that Web site up where you documented your trip to
Vista? Your account of going through Jarrell, TX, after that F5 hit was the
best account I ever read. I still tell people about it.

Gordon Glasgow
nfo/datsun-roadsters

From jda at srv.net  Wed Apr 29 20:36:23 2009
From: jda at srv.net (John Atchison)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:36:23 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] How long have you been on the mailing list ?
In-Reply-To: <49F66C38.3080400@hornesystemstx.com>
References: <BAY110-W24E5E91E4432233791C678BF710@phx.gbl>
	<49F66C38.3080400@hornesystemstx.com>
Message-ID: <1241056258_5281@mailgate1.sitestar.net>

I've been on the roadster list since at least the early 90's,
back when I was running hillclimb races with the list founder
Mark Bradakis and a group called Intermountain Vintage Racing
and SCCA Solo divisionals at the old airbase in Wendover, UT

Still have 3 roadsters in varying states of disrepair
and I mostly lurk these days.

I remember being on the digest version and using a VERY SLOW dialup modem.

I also remember when the list was small and so friendly
that all members signed their email with real names and locations !
and we didn't need spam filters to get the real Datsun content !

John Atchison
Half Fast Racing
Idaho Falls
69 2000
67.5 SPL SR20DET
67 vintage racer
various parts cars

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Thu Apr 30 00:44:53 2009
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:44:53 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw:  Persistant Oil Leak!
Message-ID: <3F76493EE70E4F0092E1754684EE1C62@Daryl>

Sent this last night but it didn't seem to come thru to the list.....at least I didn't get it back anyway......

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Daryl Smith 
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net 
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Persistant Oil Leak!


First, thankyou to all for the tips. I'm just about ready to weld the oilpan on..........

Ok, Spent the day at Ross's changing the oilpan Gasket. The old gasket had split at the front and was hanging out.......Ross has been nice enough to help me out with this in preparation for the Run on Friday....Trying to figure out where to put the 'Sponsored by Sports Imports' stickers.........

Anyway, all went fairly well with the change, used a permatex copper spray gasket adhesive to stick the gasket to the pan, and a coating of heavy grease between the gasket and block. 
Looked great for the first two test drives, about 20 -30 minutes, no leaks.
By the time I got home however (an hour or so touring around), a small leak had appeared. I went for a drive a couple hours later, pushing the car a little harder and the leak seems to be a little worse..........If it doesn't get any worse than what it is now, I may just run with it for the weekend (fingers crossed) and worry about it later..

Yes this is a steel oilpan. It's not warped or dimpled. Bolts and threads all in good condition and holding fine. Tightened just till the lockwashers went flat.
We did notice that the timing cover hangs down about .010" (yes, I installed it...) below the block tho and suspect that is the source of the trouble. was hoping a good sealant would hold it together tho....... 

Ross was considering excess blowby and pressure in the crankcase blowing it out, but when you pull the hose off the valvecover there is almost no pressure from blowby, although this is only at idle.
I did a compression test and got 190, 192,185, 190 psi. (1800cc stroker @ about 9.7:1 compression, cam is 221* at .050" )
I'm using a U20 oil pump. Idle oil pressure is at 25 psi, running pressure about 60 psi.

So... Any further opinions? Is this going to have to be an oilpan, timingcover gaskets, and front seal replacement job? If I'm going to reposition the timing cover, probably a good idea to replace the front seal? Rubber oilpan Gasket?

Gasket #4 coming right up!!  :-(

On the other hand the EFI tune is slowly improving, but I need to drive it more - as long as the oil stays in the engine.......

Daryl

**Wednesday - Put a vented oil filler cap on the valve cover and the leaks seem to be less. Enough less that I will attempt the BC Thaw Run with it!   I did top up my BCAA coverage just in case tho......  :-)

From boakes at gmail.com  Thu Apr 30 08:36:59 2009
From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:36:59 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Nice 510 SVRA-ready, BRE looking race car for $15k
Message-ID: <3ad057d60904300736r81ea81ai9291c9d97245496d@mail.gmail.com>

Looks to be a great deal here:

http://bringatrailer.com/2009/04/29/bre-look-svra-1970-datsun-510-race-car/

From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Thu Apr 30 08:51:23 2009
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:51:23 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] How long,
In-Reply-To: <49F87730.3000809@hornesystemstx.com>
References: <498906.6931.qm@web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<49F87730.3000809@hornesystemstx.com>
Message-ID: <2faaebf80904300751y2ca14cb4g685529113448e67f@mail.gmail.com>

Terry was a real character. I met him and Donna several years before
we moved to Temple and spent quite as bit of time with him after our
move. It was always fun.

For instance he offered to help us build, utilizing his advanced
degrees in educational administration. He said he wasn't sure he could
he could actually help build anything, but he was certain he could
supervise very well! :>)

I wish he'd had the opportunity to do so.

Ron

From bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com  Thu Apr 30 09:20:16 2009
From: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com (Brian Hollands)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:20:16 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw:  Persistant Oil Leak!
In-Reply-To: <3F76493EE70E4F0092E1754684EE1C62@Daryl>
Message-ID: <20090430152015951.JAMF23283@hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com>

Sounds to me like you've got a blockage in the crankcase vent.  It should be
putting out a reasonable pulse out of the valve cover at idle.  Check that
the vent isn't sealed up or filled with muck on the inside of the baffle at
the valve cover.  The vent nipple (we can say that now can't we) is held on
by three nuts.  Take it off and clean any crud out from underneath.  The
problem has to be excess crank case pressure.

________________________________
Brian Hollands
69 2000
Tampa, FL

From gogineni.alvin at gene.com  Thu Apr 30 11:02:06 2009
From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:02:06 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster parts for sale
Message-ID: <CEEC3644-14D7-4E1C-8BF9-B32AB7302E8B@gene.com>

I am posting this for a friend, locally in the S.F Bay Area:
Good guy I actually got my RX-7 rear end from him!

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/pts/1147162547.html

From barterdude at comcast.net  Thu Apr 30 12:29:22 2009
From: barterdude at comcast.net (barterdude)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:29:22 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] 1969 - 2000 for sale
Message-ID: <0B05577B27664E09AC2F8E20785C8744@XPLaptop>

Okay, I need some room for more project cars and have decided to sell my
1969 (licensed as 1970) 2000.  It is gorgeous, fast and virtually brand
newish.  Rebuild motor with Gary Boone dizzy, tight five-speed, rust cut out
and new tin welded in, new interior, new top.  Custom stereo kick boxes on
the sides and great sound even at 90.  I have put about 3 - 4 K on the car
since rebuild a couple years ago.  .  

 

To see some pix on the car, go to the www.WyCROC.org
<http://www.wycroc.org/>  website, click on THE GANG, and scroll down and
click on Gary Lasater.  It is bright yellow with black racing stripe down
the middle.  I have invested over 13K in restoration.  This is a car you can
drive home, unless you live offshore (sorry, didn't install pontoons). I
would like best offer around 11K.  I do have other pictures (including the
top) if you need.

 

If you want to talk further either email your contact info or you can call
my mobile at 303-709-6831 most anytime.  Leave message if I am in meeting.

 

Gary Lasater

founding member www.wycroc.org

'63 SPL310-300161C

'63 SPL310-300289B

'64 SPL310-001289

'68 SRL311-11977

'69 SRL311-12536

'70 SPL311-28169

From sprague at JandMContractors.com  Thu Apr 30 16:53:10 2009
From: sprague at JandMContractors.com (Leonard Sprague)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:53:10 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 1969 1600 (VG30E modified) looking for a good home
In-Reply-To: <0B05577B27664E09AC2F8E20785C8744@XPLaptop>
References: <0B05577B27664E09AC2F8E20785C8744@XPLaptop>
Message-ID: <49FA2BD6.3080803@JandMContractors.com>

This was a hard decision to make.

I am looking for a good home for my 1969 1600 (SPL311-25453) Nissan 
300zx powered beast. Yes, the "Silver Bullet" is for sale... though I 
have no idea what it's worth.

I would appreciate it if any list members could help me figure out what 
a good asking price for it would be. I will then consider serious offers 
(privately) before offering it outside this list (eBay, AutoTrader, 
etc). I would prefer it go to someone who appreciates it and would take 
good care of it (another list member).

The roadster is powered by a 1988 Nissan 300zx (VG30E) engine and 
transmission. It is extremely fun to drive and runs great. Detailed 
information about the roadster and what's included can be found here:

    http://www.lennyandjulie.com/datsun/

Also, almost 200 current photos of the car, parts, and other accessories 
included in the sale can be found here.

    
http://www.lennyandjulie.com/photos/main.php/v/roadsters/spl311-vg30/datsun_for_sale/

Thank you in advance for your input.

Enjoy the ride,
Lenny

-- 
Leonard Sprague
President, J and M Contractors
(352) 262-4788
www.JandMContractors.com/sprague.shtml

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Thu Apr 30 19:02:00 2009
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:02:00 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Carpet kit?
Message-ID: <cf1.55b7e0fc.372ba408@aol.com>

Hello all,

    It's time for new carpet. Anybody care to share  experiences with
carpet kits from the various venders? I've got a '66 it that  matters.

keith  williams
ccfcccs
_http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org_
(http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org/)

bIf  Not Us, Then Who? If Not Now, Then When?b
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From datrock at centurytel.net  Thu Apr 30 19:19:42 2009
From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:19:42 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2009 Photos
Message-ID: <49FA4E2E.5030205@centurytel.net>

Here is a link to my album of the Solvang show, there is also some car 
museum pictures included. I'm sure some of the cars can be identified 
with names.... Bill Cole

http://rides.webshots.com/album/571592305TRVcLz?vhost=rides

From eddietude at socal.rr.com  Thu Apr 30 19:30:52 2009
From: eddietude at socal.rr.com (Eddie)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:30:52 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 1969 1600 (VG30E modified) looking for a good home
In-Reply-To: <49FA2BD6.3080803@JandMContractors.com>
References: <0B05577B27664E09AC2F8E20785C8744@XPLaptop>
	<49FA2BD6.3080803@JandMContractors.com>
Message-ID: <49FA50CC.2010603@socal.rr.com>

I think it's worth oh, $50, and you should sell it to me!  J/K  LOL

Nice looking car.  Where are you located?

Eddie

Leonard Sprague wrote:
> This was a hard decision to make.
>
> I am looking for a good home for my 1969 1600 (SPL311-25453) Nissan 
> 300zx powered beast. Yes, the "Silver Bullet" is for sale... though I 
> have no idea what it's worth.
>
> I would appreciate it if any list members could help me figure out 
> what a good asking price for it would be. I will then consider serious 
> offers (privately) before offering it outside this list (eBay, 
> AutoTrader, etc). I would prefer it go to someone who appreciates it 
> and would take good care of it (another list member).
>
> The roadster is powered by a 1988 Nissan 300zx (VG30E) engine and 
> transmission. It is extremely fun to drive and runs great. Detailed 
> information about the roadster and what's included can be found here:
>
>    http://www.lennyandjulie.com/datsun/
>
> Also, almost 200 current photos of the car, parts, and other 
> accessories included in the sale can be found here.
>
>    
> http://www.lennyandjulie.com/photos/main.php/v/roadsters/spl311-vg30/datsun_for_sale/ 
>
>
> Thank you in advance for your input.
>
> Enjoy the ride,
> Lenny

From aultgc at att.net  Thu Apr 30 19:39:56 2009
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:39:56 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Carpet kit?
References: <cf1.55b7e0fc.372ba408@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BDB02586A59E4A6994C8A53BCCF9FBD7@gaxp1>

Keith,

When I recarpeted my car several years ago, I found a good trim shop and had 
them make a custom set for less than a kit.  They did a beautiful job.  I 
also had them make the floor carpeting in a single piece from firewall to 
the back.  No more carpet bunching up at the split under the front of the 
seats.

Same place made a custom cover for my fishing boat, which also fits very 
well.

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Keith0alan at aol.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 8:02 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Carpet kit?


> Hello all,
>
>    It's time for new carpet. Anybody care to share  experiences with
> carpet kits from the various venders? I've got a '66 it that  matters.
>
> keith  williams
> ccfcccs
> _http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org_
> (http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org/)
>
> b
If  Not Us, Then Who? If Not Now, Then When?b

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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Thu Apr 30 21:27:42 2009
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:27:42 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 1969 1600 (VG30E modified) looking for a good home
In-Reply-To: <49FA2BD6.3080803@JandMContractors.com>
References: <0B05577B27664E09AC2F8E20785C8744@XPLaptop>
	<49FA2BD6.3080803@JandMContractors.com>
Message-ID: <8CB9823EBFFB7C4-5F0-FD1@FWM-D16.sysops.aol.com>

 I'm sure you are going to get a lot of real sincere stories from guys about why you should sell your car to them because they are fine upstanding citizens. Almost as if you were trying to find a kitten a home... LOL 
Anyway, good luck, very nice car.
LInda


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Leonard Sprague <sprague at JandMContractors.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 3:53 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] 1969 1600 (VG30E modified) looking for a good home









This was a hard decision to make.?
?

I am looking for a good home for my 1969 1600 (SPL311-25453) Nissan 
300zx powered beast. Yes, the "Silver Bullet" is for sale... though I 
have no idea what it's worth.?
?

I would appreciate it if any list members could help me figure out what 
a good asking price for it would be. I will then consider serious offers 
(privately) before offering it outside this list (eBay, AutoTrader, 
etc). I would prefer it go to someone who appreciates it and would take 
good care of it (another list member).?
?

The roadster is powered by a 1988 Nissan 300zx (VG30E) engine and 
transmission. It is extremely fun to drive and runs great. Detailed 
information about the roadster and what's included can be found here:?
?

?  http://www.lennyandjulie.com/datsun/?
?

Also, almost 200 current photos of the car, parts, and other accessories 
included in the sale can be found here.?
?

?  
http://www.lennyandjulie.com/photos/main.php/v/roadsters/spl311-vg30/datsun_for_sale/?
?

Thank you in advance for your input.?
?

Enjoy the ride,?

Lenny?
?

-- 
Leonard Sprague?

President, J and M Contractors?

(352) 262-4788?

www.JandMContractors.com/sprague.shtml?

________________________________________?

Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html?
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From garytew at cox.net  Thu Apr 30 22:12:25 2009
From: garytew at cox.net (Gary tew)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:12:25 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Carpet kit?
In-Reply-To: <cf1.55b7e0fc.372ba408@aol.com>
References: <cf1.55b7e0fc.372ba408@aol.com>
Message-ID: <E0B1EC73-5EE8-410B-8381-54B018709AFE@cox.net>

I bought mine from Dean.  Very happy with the quality and fit.

Gary Tew
'67 1600

On Apr 30, 2009, at 6:02 PM, Keith0alan at aol.com wrote:

> Hello all,
>
>    It's time for new carpet. Anybody care to share  experiences with
> carpet kits from the various venders? I've got a '66 it that  matters.
>
> keith  williams
> ccfcccs
> _http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org_
> (http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org/)
>
> bIf  Not Us, Then Who? If Not Now, Then When?b
> **************Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and
>
Desktops!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219491521x1201306563/aol?r
> edir=http:%2F%2Fad.double
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