[Roadsters] valve tick / clatter

Pat Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com
Sat Nov 8 16:18:01 MST 2008


Just a guess, but what about a loose wrist pin? I would expect that to 
be more of a lower end noise, but have never experienced a loose wrist 
pin myself.

First, try pulling the plug wire to see if it makes a difference in the 
noise. Then try removing the push rods from #1 one at a time to see if 
the noise is still there. I've had a similar noise ion the past that 
turned out to be a loose or broken bolt holding the fan/water pump 
pulley on. Try removing the fan belt for a quick check. What's the odds 
that the cam timing gear is loose?

Good hunting.

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake jover4x4 at aol.com:
> List,
>
> I am asking for help in diagnosing a valve clatter for a fellow Wycroc member.? His car is a 67.5 1600.? The noise is a fairly loud valve tick at idle.? It appears to be most apparent in cylinder #1.? (We used a screwdriver as a stethoscope and heard the noise in?the head, chamber #1).? Upon revving the engine the noise frequency increases with rpm.? It is definitely an upper end valvetrain noise rather than a lower end bearing thunk.
>
> I have adjusted valves several times to different lashes and hear no difference.? I have set lash to zero and still no change.? I have replaced the rocker assembly with a good used assy I had in the garage and it made no difference.? All cylinders are at 160psi compression.? Carbs are dialed in correctly and the car idles well at 700rpm.? The noise started after a blown head gasket was repaired and a valve job performed.? Owner states all new valves were installed, seats cut by hand with a cutter (three angle cut on seats), new guides installed and reamed correctly.? Seats were not removed when the valve job was performed.? The head was cut .025" and the machine shop said it had been cut once before.? So I'd estimate up to .050" has been removed from the head.? 
>
> About the only thing I can think of is that one or more seats are loose in the head, or a guide is loose, or the rocker shaft needs rebushed.? I didn't measure the head thickness, but highly doubt a valve is hitting a piston.? 
>
> Has anyone encountered a similar problem?? Or can anyone offer some tech advise on further diagnosis?? Owner hopes not to have to pull the head again but I am afraid that it may be necessary.
>
> Thanks in advance, 
>
> John Over
> Denver, CO
> 67 2000
> 68 2000
> 71 240z
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