From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com  Thu May  1 06:03:52 2008
From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 05:03:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Stock versus modified
In-Reply-To: <BAY105-W16D075414760B81F45FEB792DB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <499293.37123.qm@web53009.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I like originality also, but I do drive my car,
sometimes on long trips, and for the sake of
drivability and dependability, I have the Gary Boone
dizzy, the GM Alternator and a modern battery, among
other cheap and dependable modifications, but with the
knowledge that they can all be put back to original
quickly and without a lot of fuss.  (The series 53
batteries just became tough to find, and too expensive
for what you get.) I refuse to replace bulbs with
Everwing etc, but they can be found, I suppose. I will
probably someday go back to bone stock,(and repair my
minor rust) but in the meantime, it is a relatively
stock but dependable driver.  Each to his own.  If
they all had to be stock, we would not have many
around, and the parts would be impossible to get.

Mike SC
'66 1600 (Jessie)

--- sidney raper <spl310 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Well, here is my not too humble opinion.  If you
> have a clean original, you
> are doing a disservice to the automotive community
> by doing modifications

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Thu May  1 06:16:21 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 08:16:21 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] mitty pics, day two
Message-ID: <d50.27c8059b.354b0e95@aol.com>

Hello all,
 
    Stopped by and saw the elkmobile. I have to agree,  taking on an elk with 
a roadster is something to avoid.
 
 
 
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(http://members.aol.com/roadsterranch/mitty/mittypics.html)  
 
keithw






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From chalsted at comcast.net  Thu May  1 07:27:47 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 09:27:47 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Stock vs. Modified, original engines
References: <BLU106-W1840261DA1175646932721B5D80@phx.gbl><E1JrIrc-0005Kr-9d@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net><FBA3A7A1B71B7A4C8CCC1B3B193A634B0D94D451@usr34mx00.tycoelectronics.net>
	<000001c8ab17$fbb7bfa0$f3273ee0$@net>
Message-ID: <006001c8ab8f$264e5540$9372a343@craigscomputer>

if folks are having a hard time finding U20's and R16's, I have probably 15 
of each along with  lots of 4 and 5 speeds available. contact me offlist if 
you need any of those or other used parts. as for stock vs. modified, I have 
roadsters from stock 1500 to a 240hp supercharged GM 3800 tall windshield 
roadster (mostly projects) and I like 'em all- especially the ones I can 
drive :-)  I occasionaly drop 2L drivetrains into 1600's but any non- 
roadster drivetrains were already in the cars when I got them. have a 
roadster frame modified for a 215 aluminum V8 available along with a stroker 
215 good for about 300hp if anyone's interested... ;-)

Craig
mostly roadsters 

From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Thu May  1 08:28:23 2008
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 07:28:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Stock vs. Modified (was Late car Rear view mirror
 dims)
In-Reply-To: <20080430123124.CFEOW.416121.root@fepweb09>
Message-ID: <7065.15204.qm@web51112.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

   I'm a "stock" guy as well

   JimG
   --- On Wed, 4/30/08, Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:

     From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
     Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stock vs. Modified (was Late car Rear view
     mirror dims)
     To: davesmbox at aol.com
     Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
     Date: Wednesday, April 30, 2008, 12:31 PM
Well...I wouldn't say you lost an argument Dave. I am sure there are loads
of stock Roadster owners out there that didn't voice anything. But here is
a vote for you (both actually).

I am leaving my (Dad's) 1600 as stock as I can. With the exception of a
modern alternator, I am not going to change anything.

The SRL, on the other hand, is going to get whatever mods I can do to it to
make it a faster, better handling, better stopping little rocket ship. Since
the motor is getting tired, that might mean putting a different motor in. If
so, then so be it.

Now I can't wait to find out where all the money is going to come from!!!
lol

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- davesmbox at aol.com wrote:

=============
I really enjoyed this thread. I guess I lost the argument. The modified people
won.
I have been so motivated for the modification side that I am going to buy a
bucket of BERH paint and a roller at home depot and head to the Museum of Fine
Art and "MODIFY" some of those outdated old paintings that can't
compete with a fine digital print. How can Monet compete wit 7 megapixels?
The Mods Win.
Dave M
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From dhyson at charter.net  Thu May  1 11:12:02 2008
From: dhyson at charter.net (Durf & Sue Hyson)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 13:12:02 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] off roadster question
Message-ID: <4819F9E2.7090405@charter.net>

Hey all ,

This question is for those involved in other Datsuns , particularly 
510's. I am in need of a pair of BRE style front fender flares for a 
510. I am not looking for complete fenders as they are not going on a 
510 . If anyone has a pair , or a source , I would really appreciate the 
help.

Back to your regular Roadster programming now !

Thanks,
Durf

From leehinger at verizon.net  Thu May  1 13:12:40 2008
From: leehinger at verizon.net (Lee Ehinger)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 15:12:40 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT - 240Z parts needed
Message-ID: <000201c8abbf$53d91ce0$0401a8c0@homeo9ltgh9dtd>

I know that a lot of the list also have or know folks with 240Zs..  I am
"spffing-up" an early, low vin 70 series 1 240z and looking for a heater
control panel that also is around the radio. 
 
The one I need has the 3 sliders labeled at the left:
Off
Off
Def
 
Trying to find new or in really good shape if possible.
 
Thank you, and sorry for the roadster interruption.
Lee Ehinger
Ft Wayne IN
Early & late 67 rdstrs

From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net  Thu May  1 14:08:22 2008
From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 13:08:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Wide band A/F kit
Message-ID: <50144.82959.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi,
   
     Thought I'd fiddle around and further fine tune my M/C carbs on my roadster. Does anyone know of a good simple kit ? Don't know or have any experience with these set/ups but willing to learn. I'm speaking of the kits including from O2 sensor to gauge on other end? Did a quick search and found one for around $269.00. Is this too much? Thanks.

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Thu May  1 17:04:50 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 19:04:50 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] BRE fenders wanted
In-Reply-To: <bb123f2d0805011420v6ffa3884p699b650edc1a1394@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4819F9E2.7090405@charter.net>	
	<000e01c8abba$746a7620$5d3f6260$@net>
	<bb123f2d0805011420v6ffa3884p699b650edc1a1394@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002601c8abdf$c6a8b120$53fa1360$@net>

Sorry but I lost Durf's email.  Here is a response to his fender question.

 

Paul

 

From: dan curtis [mailto:dimerdan at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 5:20 PM
To: Paul
Subject: Re: BRE fenders wanted

 

BRE (510) flares are part of the fiberglass fender, ZG flares bolt on to a
stock fender. 

Les @ Classic Datsun has them both. 

http://classicdatsun.com/new/510_glass.html 

http://classicdatsun.com/new/240_glass.html 

http://classicdatsun.com/ 

 

My buddy used a set of ZG flares on a 1st gen RX7 and they fit ok. 

I think some AE86 Corolla flares might work and they're made for a smaller
diameter tires, the ZG flares needed to be bent a little. 

 

Dan 

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote:

Saw this on the roadster list and figured he'd get a better response here on
the 510 list.  Durf, hope this get's you an answer.

Paul
Ohio

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] off roadster question

Hey all ,

This question is for those involved in other Datsuns , particularly
510's. I am in need of a pair of BRE style front fender flares for a
510. I am not looking for complete fenders as they are not going on a
510 . If anyone has a pair , or a source , I would really appreciate the
help.

Back to your regular Roadster programming now !

Thanks,
Durf

From mikef at carolina.rr.com  Thu May  1 17:41:34 2008
From: mikef at carolina.rr.com (Mike Faggart)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 19:41:34 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT--but I had to pass this offer along
References: <20080430104524.G5FJL.412907.root@fepweb09>
Message-ID: <007b01c8abe4$e4120ae0$0200a8c0@reginacb41e884>

Yep, that was a pretty good article.  The truth of the matter is, those free 
screenings save lives.  A few years ago my golfing buddy said that he had 
made arrangements for us to go to a free screening sponsored by the local 
hospital.  I was over 50, so I said I would go.  Not too much fun if you 
know what I mean!
I missed the next year, but made it to the year after.  Guess what, higher 
PSA.  Went to the DR. for a visit and the next thing I know, biopsy, and I 
have prostate cancer.  I had mine removed.

Guess this is hitting home tonight, this is the season for the RELAY FOR 
LIFE, I am now a cancer survivor, my sister has cancer and I will be walking 
tomorrow night with her in the survivor's walk, and our mother died several 
years ago with cancer.

So, now it ain't fun, but I urge any male over 50 to go and get checked for 
prostate cancer.  Tim, I'm not ragging on you,  but you hit on something 
that can save a life, so thank you.

Roadster content:  77 today and not a cloud in the sky, but I can't get the 
wife's d--- plants out of the garage from behind my car to go for a ride. 
She said I had to clean the deck first!!!

Mike Faggart
SEROC
68 2L
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>
To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:45 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] OT--but I had to pass this offer along


> Just when you thought you had seen it all. The Milwaukee Brewers have an 
> offer you should not pass up if you are over 40. Worth the read, good for 
> a laugh.
>
> http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=745267
>
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
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From sportsix63 at yahoo.com  Fri May  2 11:14:58 2008
From: sportsix63 at yahoo.com (jim williams)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 10:14:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Needed
Message-ID: <277731.79053.qm@web32505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I am in need of a source for a new solenoid for a 1600
roadster.
Thanks

  Jim Williams
  Lewisburg, West Virginia





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From racery at comcast.net  Fri May  2 17:25:49 2008
From: racery at comcast.net (racery at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 23:25:49 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Wideband O2
Message-ID: <050220082325.29333.481BA2FD000510FE000072952200751090979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net>

I have the innovate, and like it.  But I use the datalogging.
However, for cheap,
http://www.14point7.com/JAW/JAW.htm

is the cheapest preassembled I've found.

Toby
Seattle

From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com  Fri May  2 17:58:17 2008
From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 16:58:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <b2545d850805011601q34ffe24ma36288c8c93dab60@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <907099.49001.qm@web53503.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Good job on the newsletter, Chris!  I'm looking forward to the next one already!
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From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Sat May  3 06:15:58 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 08:15:58 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Mitty Bad News
Message-ID: <E1JsGed-0003r4-Hx@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi All,

Bad news from North Georgia/East Tennessee. I was on my way VERY early this
morning. I had meant to leave yesterday but had electrical problems with the
car. I worked on it all day yesterday. Thought I had it all figured out by
11:00 last night. Leaving around 5:00 this morning; I had just crossed from
TN to GA. My Volt Meter decided to peg to the right. With the car charging
at 18 volts, I decided to come home. I disconnected the alternator and drove
home on battery. I barely made it since it was dark and I had the lights on.
When I pulled in to my parking space, my battery was at about 9 volts. And
it's raining. Who needs a drink?

I'm very disappointed since I've been planning this trip for 2 years. 

 

One VERY sad boy in Chattanooga,

Matt

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sat May  3 09:27:05 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 08:27:05 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Need 1600 starter solenoid
In-Reply-To: <277731.79053.qm@web32505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003401c8ad32$268e01f0$6501a8c0@xp>

Rockauto.com has 'em listed for approx $26. Napa online says you can get
them from the store.

HTH.

                    `  ___  '   
Pete               -  (O o)  -  
------------------ooO--(_)--Ooo----
Lake Forest Park, WA
1966 1600 SPL311
1966 L20B WPL411
1971 1.7L Porsche 914
plus 2 cars, a truck & a motorcycle

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of jim williams
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 10:15 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Needed


I am in need of a source for a new solenoid for a 1600 roadster. Thanks

  Jim Williams
  Lewisburg, West Virginia

From jrdmf at aol.com  Sat May  3 09:44:47 2008
From: jrdmf at aol.com (jrdmf at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 11:44:47 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Mitty Bad News
In-Reply-To: <E1JsGed-0003r4-Hx@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1JsGed-0003r4-Hx@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <8CA7B4BBFB67B9B-890-8061@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com>

Hi Matt....

Had the same thing happen to may car a few years back but unfortunately we didn't catch it in time so the battery got boiled and a few other parts got toasted too.?Small?aircraft have ON/OFF swithch's to the alternator for just such an occasion and I am seriously considering the same for my car.?(Of course you can't exactly pull over and deal with the problem when you're in the air?)

Definitely a bummer that it happened but from a "glass is half full" perspective it was a?good thing you were paying attention so it didn't get worse.

Jon Frampton
Huntington Beach



-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew A. Smith <matthews517 at earthlink.net>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Sat, 3 May 2008 5:15 am
Subject: [Roadsters] Mitty Bad News



Hi All,

Bad news from North Georgia/East Tennessee. I was on my way VERY early this
morning. I had meant to leave yesterday but had electrical problems with the
car. I worked on it all day yesterday. Thought I had it all figured out by
11:00 last night. Leaving around 5:00 this morning; I had just crossed from
TN to GA. My Volt Meter decided to peg to the right. With the car charging
at 18 volts, I decided to come home. I disconnected the alternator and drove
home on battery. I barely made it since it was dark and I had the lights on.
When I pulled in to my parking space, my battery was at about 9 volts. And
it's raining. Who needs a drink?

I'm very disappointed since I've been planning this trip for 2 years. 

 

One VERY sad boy in Chattanooga,

Matt
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From nicole at irmforestry.com  Sat May  3 12:12:44 2008
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Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 11:12:44 -0700
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I will be out of the office starting April 26th and will be returning May 5th.  
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From jklingman at stny.rr.com  Sat May  3 18:10:36 2008
From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 20:10:36 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Import-Kit/Replicar Carlisle,PA
Message-ID: <000701c8ad7b$472a0d20$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>

  Import-Kit/Replicar Carlisle is May16-18. We will be there on the 16th and
17th, after dropping in on Craig Halsted in VA. Anybody else going? We would
enjoy meeting up. Not taking Spike, she's getting a paint job after a winter
of work and tinkering.
  This year Import is doing a big British gala along with other import cars
and clubs.
  Here is a tempter, there is a special seminar on how to buy an MGB, and
another on Lucas electrics. ( just say NO)
  Craig, talked to the Jowett Jupiter guys and there are 2 Jups coming to the
show.
 Gloria and John Klingman
  Sidney,NY '68 2000 a.k.a. Spike

From aultgc at att.net  Sat May  3 20:12:06 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 19:12:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay #170213906722--any one on this list selling
 this?
Message-ID: <759497.36849.qm@web83814.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Tim,
 
I make it a 5-speed, from the style of the middle of the case.  But, you're right, the seller didn't know.

Anyone else have another opinion?
 
Gary Ault




----- Original Message ----
From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 1:58:55 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay #170213906722--any one on this list selling this?

I asked the seller if it was a four or five speed and didn't receive an answer. 

Does any one, by any chance, know what this tranny is? 

Hell, can you tell from the outside? If so, how? 

Again, read the last line in my signature if you still have any questions about me! ;-)

TIA

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning
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From alvingogi at hotmail.com  Sun May  4 01:47:32 2008
From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 07:47:32 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Historic Roadster pics
Message-ID: <BLU106-W466F6DBFFFBC527F4E3CFCB5D40@phx.gbl>

http://rides.webshots.com/album/563295635NHSkfs

Big thanks to Mark Dent for sending me these 4x6 prints from years ago.I
scanned 136 photos, 4 to a page. Half of them are from BADROC of 10 years
vintage. Some Shasta/Solvang West coast shows, and Mid-Ohio action. When I
flipped through the pics I couldn't but notice that Michael Carion(calspeed)
both organized similar fun runs through S.F...but 10 years apart!! strange
:lol: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2441084710103240641DXUBUY

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/1502829160081234682mFluZO
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/1502825048081234682lKAuUB
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/1502828600081234682iSeBFY

Enjoy!!



Alvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20
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From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com  Sun May  4 13:10:02 2008
From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 12:10:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] She lives!
Message-ID: <57502.97821.qm@web53502.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hello, All!
I finally got "CarCar", my 64, 3-seater to start yesterday.  Hooray!!  And it's only taken me 8 years!
However, I need some help with the timing, valve adjustment, carb tuning, and clutch and brake adjustments.  If anyone with knowledge in any / all the above listed problem areas would be willing to come to Laguna Niguel, CA  some Saturday or Sunday to help, I'll buy you lunch and a six pack of your favorite beverage!  
If several people respond and want to help me, it just might turn into a BBQ / intervention party! 
Please let me know ASAP if you're willing and what dates you're available.
Thanks!
Patti



       
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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Sun May  4 16:16:17 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 18:16:17 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Check out mittypics
Message-ID: <bd0.28cedad7.354f8fb1@aol.com>

Hello all,
 
Last day. Great time. Now to pack up and head home.
 
 
_Click  here: mittypics_ 
(http://members.aol.com/roadsterranch/mitty/mittypics.html)  
 
keith "the slow carb guy" williams
 
 



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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Sun May  4 18:02:12 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 20:02:12 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Check out mittypics
In-Reply-To: <bd0.28cedad7.354f8fb1@aol.com>
References: <bd0.28cedad7.354f8fb1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004401c8ae43$46932770$d3b97650$@net>

Keith,

  Almost as good as being there!

  Well, okay, nowhere near as good as being there, but thanks for all the
photos.  Looks like all the rain this weekend was here in Central Ohio.
Glad to be of service.

Paul
Ohio

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Keith0alan at aol.com
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:16 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; Alyse24 at aol.com
Subject: [Roadsters] Check out mittypics

Hello all,
 
Last day. Great time. Now to pack up and head home.
 
 
_Click  here: mittypics_ 
(http://members.aol.com/roadsterranch/mitty/mittypics.html)  
 
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From shifty at shiftco.com  Sun May  4 22:14:19 2008
From: shifty at shiftco.com (Leigh Brooks)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 21:14:19 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 1968 1600 for sale
In-Reply-To: <57502.97821.qm@web53502.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <57502.97821.qm@web53502.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1E169727-6219-4185-893E-89FA7E2434C1@shiftco.com>

The rat is for sale!

You can see the history of this car at http://www.shiftco.com/ 
features/the_rat/index.html

1968 Datsun 1600 roadster
SPL311-20000

Clear Oregon title
Registered as Special Interest Vehicle

This car is very close to being a good driver and had been a great  
project for me. I have a '69 2000 and a '67.5 2000 project car as  
well as a baby on the way - so it's time to thin the herd a bit.

Engine:
1967 3-main R-16
Head refurbed by Autosport Seattle in 2004/2005
New water pump

Transmission:
4-speed - the synchros are worn in 2nd gear

Radiator:
Needs a new radiator

Clutch:
New master and slave cylinder
2000 clutch and pressure plate balanced to resurfaced flywheel - this  
clutch grabs really nice!

Brakes:
New master cylinder
New rear pistons
Rebuilt front calipers
Stainless steel flex lines
Nice firm pedal, stops straight

Electrical:
The entire electrical system has been gone through, repaired and all  
connectors cleaned.
Optima red top battery
All gauges work - radio does not

Interior:
Has a dash cap
New interior vinyl and carpet
Was stripped and treated with Eastwood rust convertor
Early roadster seats without headrests
Custom shifter console

Body:
Pretty good for a rat - has a few rust bubbles and patched floorboards
Lower passenger front fender needs repair
Paint has lots of battle scars

Trim:
Repro 1500 stainless steel grille
All badges are present
All trim is there
Nice tail lights
Tex fender mirrors

Tops:
Comes with a round porthole window hardtop
Has soft top frame (no soft top)
New tonneau cover, no top boot

Extras:
Comes with original matching red hood
Nicely patina'd front bumper

Wheels:
The car currently has a set of powder-coated stock roadster wheels  
with cheap tires - I'd like to keep these wheels, so I can give the  
new owner 5 stock roadster wheels with tires that hold air.

I also have a set of black 14x5.5 powder-coated Z-car wheels with  
beauty rings that were intended for this car. They are 1/2 inch wider  
than roadster wheels. They are on my '69 2000 with a set of Yokohamas  
that I want to keep. We can work out which wheels/tires will go with  
the car.

Needs:
Radiator
An EI dizzy and coil would be a great upgrade!
Front brake hard lines should be replaced
Lower passenger front fender needs repair

Price:
$2500

Located in Hood River, OR
Happy to answer any questions!

Leigh Brooks

Pictures:

http://www.shiftco.com/68/front.jpg

http://www.shiftco.com/68/side.jpg

http://www.shiftco.com/68/rear.jpg

http://www.shiftco.com/68/interior.jpg

http://www.shiftco.com/68/engine_driver.jpg

http://www.shiftco.com/68/engine_pass.jpg

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Mon May  5 05:23:25 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 07:23:25 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Check out mittypics
Message-ID: <d01.2d9344e2.3550482d@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/4/2008 5:25:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
gsglasgow at comcast.net writes:

Good to  see that someone bought the Electramotive GTP car. That thing was
for sale  in Sports Car magazine forever.

What is the car in #'s 42 and 43? I  don't recognize it - and that's fairly
unusual.

Gordon  Glasgow



I'll have to leave that answer to someone that knows more than I do.
 
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From datsit at hotmail.com  Mon May  5 16:19:44 2008
From: datsit at hotmail.com (Mike jennings)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 22:19:44 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 2, Issue 198
In-Reply-To: <mailman.27.1210010402.15425.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.27.1210010402.15425.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <BLU115-W46D0F2FA151161B1C5C8B0D0D70@phx.gbl>

I believe photo #42 & 43 is a Chevron B19 coupe or a Ginnetta G??(many models
G1---38)

Anyone on list going to the www.varac.ca , Mosport Vintage Festival? June
20--22/08 (Free camping,open pits, garage & only $30. advanced tickets for 4
days!!!!)  Can-Am cars this year & 50 Years for Austin Healey Sprites (
running a 59 MKI #02) 50 yr. Lola's & 50th for Mallock's,  we have 6 - 240s,
4 - 510s entered but no roadster's ???? also will have #1 Chaparral (VARAC
member) pounding the pavement.

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Mon May  5 21:57:02 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 20:57:02 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 2, Issue 198
In-Reply-To: <BLU115-W46D0F2FA151161B1C5C8B0D0D70@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.27.1210010402.15425.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
	<BLU115-W46D0F2FA151161B1C5C8B0D0D70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <003601c8af2d$3e171b70$ba455250$@net>

Aha! I found it. It appears to be a Chevron B6 GT.
http://www.race-cars.com/carsold/chevron/b6dbe8/b6dbe8pa.htm

Thanks for the tip, Mike.

Gordon Glasgow
-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Mike jennings
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 3:20 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 2, Issue 198

I believe photo #42 & 43 is a Chevron B19 coupe or a Ginnetta G??(many
models
G1---38)

Anyone on list going to the www.varac.ca , Mosport Vintage Festival? June
20--22/08 (Free camping,open pits, garage & only $30. advanced tickets for 4
days!!!!)  Can-Am cars this year & 50 Years for Austin Healey Sprites (
running a 59 MKI #02) 50 yr. Lola's & 50th for Mallock's,  we have 6 - 240s,
4 - 510s entered but no roadster's ???? also will have #1 Chaparral (VARAC
member) pounding the pavement.
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From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Tue May  6 06:37:37 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 08:37:37 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Mitty Bad News
In-Reply-To: <8CA7B4BBFB67B9B-890-8061@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <E1JtMQJ-0003pU-JF@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Thanks for the GHF perspective Jon,

Now the glass is nearly > full, since I ALSO figured out why Im on my 5th
10SI alternator in a little over a year. There are two ways to wire these
things. Heres a hint. Dont wire it BOTH ways. It turns out electricity
doesnt like to go in two directions on the same wire. It tends to burn up
diodes and voltage regulators REALLY FAST! My volt meter needle no longer
waves at me after about 100 miles of installing a new alt. Ill miss the
little fella. Another plus is that I can now swap alternators in my car in
about 1 = minutes if necessary. A real advantage for the Mechanic on the
go!.

So, anyone have the dates for next years Mitty yet? :-)

I have one more day of vacation left. Im heading to North Carolina in a few
minutes. Guna go run the Tail of the Dragon a few times.

Matt Smith


Definitely a bummer that it happened but from a "glass is half full"
perspective it was a good thing you were paying attention so it didn't get
worse.

Jon Frampton
Huntington Beach

From sandhoff at csus.edu  Tue May  6 13:41:46 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 12:41:46 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] On-demand molded heater hoses
Message-ID: <4820520A.17992.5FBC906@localhost>

Here's a nifty product that was mentioned on the 510 list. It's made
by Gates and allows for putting permanent custom bends in heater
hose runs. For NLA applications, or quick repairs when you can't
wait for vendor turnaround, it may save someone some grief:

Gates Unicoil - when curved/molded hose isn't available
<http://www.gates.com/brochure.cfm?brochure=4961&location_id=5348>

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From gogineni.alvin at gene.com  Tue May  6 15:19:13 2008
From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 14:19:13 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] MotoringJStyle Registration 5/24
Message-ID: <005c01c8afbe$d5791b30$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com>

Sign-up to get into the ZONC corral at the show:

$20 gets you admission for 1 car into the show PLUS 2 admission tickets!

http://www.zonc.org/eventregistration.html

From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Tue May  6 22:06:40 2008
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 21:06:40 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Mitty Bad News
In-Reply-To: <E1JtMQJ-0003pU-JF@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1JtMQJ-0003pU-JF@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <48212AD0.7000800@sbcglobal.net>

5 alternators in a year... ?

Good that you figured out that the wiring thing was the root of your 
problem, but have you ever heard the famous definition of insanity? 
Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different 
result...  ;^)

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

Matthew A. Smith wrote:

>Thanks for the GHF perspective Jon,
>
>Now the glass is nearly > full, since I ALSO figured out why Im on my 5th
>10SI alternator in a little over a year. There are two ways to wire these
>things. Heres a hint. Dont wire it BOTH ways. It turns out electricity
>doesnt like to go in two directions on the same wire. It tends to burn up
>diodes and voltage regulators REALLY FAST! My volt meter needle no longer
>waves at me after about 100 miles of installing a new alt. Ill miss the
>little fella. Another plus is that I can now swap alternators in my car in
>about 1 = minutes if necessary. A real advantage for the Mechanic on the
>go!.
>
>So, anyone have the dates for next years Mitty yet? :-)
>
>I have one more day of vacation left. Im heading to North Carolina in a few
>minutes. Guna go run the Tail of the Dragon a few times.
>
>Matt Smith
>
>
>Definitely a bummer that it happened but from a "glass is half full"
>perspective it was a good thing you were paying attention so it didn't get
>worse.
>
>Jon Frampton
>Huntington Beach
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Tue May  6 22:25:30 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 00:25:30 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Mitty Bad News
In-Reply-To: <48212AD0.7000800@sbcglobal.net>
References: <E1JtMQJ-0003pU-JF@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<48212AD0.7000800@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <8CA7E11849AAFD7-BAC-2DAE@webmail-ne01.sysops.aol.com>

I'd say the glass is 1/2 full because you didn't fry your whole 
harness! Wow, most people don't get away with that much....you be 
lucky.LOL

Linda


-----Original Message-----
From: Gary McCormick <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net>
To: Matthew A. Smith <matthews517 at earthlink.net>
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, 6 May 2008 9:06 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Mitty Bad News

5 alternators in a year... ?

Good that you figured out that the wiring thing was the root of your
problem, but have you ever heard the famous definition of insanity?
Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different
result...  ;^)

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

Matthew A. Smith wrote:

>Thanks for the GHF perspective Jon,
>
>Now the glass is nearly > full, since I ALSO figured out why Im on my 
5th
>10SI alternator in a little over a year. There are two ways to wire 
these
>things. Heres a hint. Dont wire it BOTH ways. It turns out 
electricity
>doesnt like to go in two directions on the same wire. It tends to 
burn up
>diodes and voltage regulators REALLY FAST! My volt meter needle no 
longer
>waves at me after about 100 miles of installing a new alt. Ill miss 
the
>little fella. Another plus is that I can now swap alternators in my 
car in
>about 1 = minutes if necessary. A real advantage for the Mechanic on 
the
>go!.
>
>So, anyone have the dates for next years Mitty yet? :-)
>
>I have one more day of vacation left. Im heading to North Carolina in 
a few
>minutes. Guna go run the Tail of the Dragon a few times.
>
>Matt Smith
>
>
>Definitely a bummer that it happened but from a "glass is half full"
>perspective it was a good thing you were paying attention so it didn't 
get
>worse.
>
>Jon Frampton
>Huntington Beach
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From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov  Wed May  7 06:28:01 2008
From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03))
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 07:28:01 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Mitty Bad News
In-Reply-To: <8CA7E11849AAFD7-BAC-2DAE@webmail-ne01.sysops.aol.com>
References: <E1JtMQJ-0003pU-JF@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net><48212AD0.7000800@sbcglobal.net>
	<8CA7E11849AAFD7-BAC-2DAE@webmail-ne01.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76978648@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>

 Yea, but Matt's luck is spreading.....

I got my Roadster together in time for the Mitty, but other obligations
stood in the way.  So, I was driving my Roadster and my alternator quit!
I noticed my amp gage on the negative side of its world.  If I would
have taken off to the Mitty, Matt would have had good "return" company.

Now - repair original or one-wire... That is the question....

Phil
SEROC

-----Original Message-----
From:
datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team
.net] On Behalf Of ljordan704 at netscape.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 11:26 PM
To: matthews517 at earthlink.net
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Mitty Bad News

I'd say the glass is 1/2 full because you didn't fry your whole harness!
Wow, most people don't get away with that much....you be lucky.LOL

Linda


-----Original Message-----
From: Gary McCormick <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net>
To: Matthew A. Smith <matthews517 at earthlink.net>
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, 6 May 2008 9:06 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Mitty Bad News

5 alternators in a year... ?

Good that you figured out that the wiring thing was the root of your
problem, but have you ever heard the famous definition of insanity?
Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different
result...  ;^)

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

Matthew A. Smith wrote:

>Thanks for the GHF perspective Jon,
>
>Now the glass is nearly > full, since I ALSO figured out why Im on my
5th
>10SI alternator in a little over a year. There are two ways to wire
these
>things. Heres a hint. Dont wire it BOTH ways. It turns out
electricity
>doesnt like to go in two directions on the same wire. It tends to
burn up
>diodes and voltage regulators REALLY FAST! My volt meter needle no
longer
>waves at me after about 100 miles of installing a new alt. Ill miss
the
>little fella. Another plus is that I can now swap alternators in my
car in
>about 1 = minutes if necessary. A real advantage for the Mechanic on
the
>go!.
>
>So, anyone have the dates for next years Mitty yet? :-)
>
>I have one more day of vacation left. Im heading to North Carolina in
a few
>minutes. Guna go run the Tail of the Dragon a few times.
>
>Matt Smith
>
>
>Definitely a bummer that it happened but from a "glass is half full"
>perspective it was a good thing you were paying attention so it didn't
get
>worse.
>
>Jon Frampton
>Huntington Beach
>________________________________________

From efrisbee at charter.net  Wed May  7 07:46:51 2008
From: efrisbee at charter.net (efrisbee at charter.net)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 6:46:51 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Mitty Bad News
In-Reply-To: <E1JtMQJ-0003pU-JF@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20080507094652.1W4R8.189049.root@fepweb04>

Oh you lucky bugger!!  I wish I could be running the Dragon today!!

Eric

---- "Matthew A. Smith" <matthews517 at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Thanks for the GHF perspective Jon,
>
> Now the glass is nearly > full, since I ALSO figured out why Im on my 5th
> 10SI alternator in a little over a year. There are two ways to wire these
> things. Heres a hint. Dont wire it BOTH ways. It turns out electricity
> doesnt like to go in two directions on the same wire. It tends to burn up
> diodes and voltage regulators REALLY FAST! My volt meter needle no longer
> waves at me after about 100 miles of installing a new alt. Ill miss the
> little fella. Another plus is that I can now swap alternators in my car in
> about 1 = minutes if necessary. A real advantage for the Mechanic on the
> go!.
>
> So, anyone have the dates for next years Mitty yet? :-)
>
> I have one more day of vacation left. Im heading to North Carolina in a
few
> minutes. Guna go run the Tail of the Dragon a few times.
>
> Matt Smith
>
>
> Definitely a bummer that it happened but from a "glass is half full"
> perspective it was a good thing you were paying attention so it didn't get
> worse.
>
> Jon Frampton
> Huntington Beach
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Wed May  7 08:41:17 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 10:41:17 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Mitty Bad News
In-Reply-To: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76978648@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>
References: <E1JtMQJ-0003pU-JF@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net><48212AD0.7000800@sbcglobal.net>
	<8CA7E11849AAFD7-BAC-2DAE@webmail-ne01.sysops.aol.com>
	<85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76978648@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <8CA7E678A3A9D49-174C-4DA4@webmail-nb21.sysops.aol.com>

I think the key is to have a spare alt in the trunk. Quick change and keep on going. Now with the one wire alt you have to be sure all your wiring is good enough to handle it, right? Well, I don't think having a spare harness in the trunk is the way to go

Linda

-----Original Message-----
From: Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03) 
To: ljordan704 at netscape.net; matthews517 at earthlink.net
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, 7 May 2008 5:28 am
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Mitty Bad News

 Yea, but Matt's luck is spreading.....

I got my Roadster together in time for the Mitty, but other obligations
stood in the way.  So, I was driving my Roadster and my alternator quit!
I noticed my amp gage on the negative side of its world.  If I would
have taken off to the Mitty, Matt would have had good "return" company.

Now - repair original or one-wire... That is the question....

Phil
SEROC

-----Original Message-----
From:
datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team
.net] On Behalf Of ljordan704 at netscape.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 11:26 PM
To: matthews517 at earthlink.net
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Mitty Bad News

I'd say the glass is 1/2 full because you didn't fry your whole harness!
Wow, most people don't get away with that much....you be lucky.LOL

Linda


-----Original Message-----
From: Gary McCormick 
To: Matthew A. Smith 
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, 6 May 2008 9:06 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Mitty Bad News

5 alternators in a year... ?

Good that you figured out that the wiring thing was the root of your
problem, but have you ever heard the famous definition of insanity?
Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different
result...  ;^)

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

Matthew A. Smith wrote:

>Thanks for the GHF perspective Jon,
>
>Now the glass is nearly > full, since I ALSO figured out why Im on my
5th
>10SI alternator in a little over a year. There are two ways to wire
these
>things. Heres a hint. Dont wire it BOTH ways. It turns out
electricity
>doesnt like to go in two directions on the same wire. It tends to
burn up
>diodes and voltage regulators REALLY FAST! My volt meter needle no
longer
>waves at me after about 100 miles of installing a new alt. Ill miss
the
>little fella. Another plus is that I can now swap alternators in my
car in
>about 1 = minutes if necessary. A real advantage for the Mechanic on
the
>go!.
>
>So, anyone have the dates for next years Mitty yet? :-)
>
>I have one more day of vacation left. Im heading to North Carolina in
a few
>minutes. Guna go run the Tail of the Dragon a few times.
>
>Matt Smith
>
>
>Definitely a bummer that it happened but from a "glass is half full"
>perspective it was a good thing you were paying attention so it didn't
get
>worse.
>
>Jon Frampton
>Huntington Beach
>________________________________________

From tom at datsun2000.com  Wed May  7 10:46:31 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 09:46:31 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Part Request From Sweden
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGEEMMDEAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

I received the following request through the contact page on datsun2000.com.
I am passing the request on to the list in the hope that someone can help
Holger find a grill for his roadster.

Tom

=====================

Hi Tom,

My name is Holger and I'm a Datsun SRL owner from Sweden, I need a grill to
my car, could you help me with that?

rgs
Holger
holger.freundlich at siemens.com

From sandhoff at csus.edu  Wed May  7 11:55:49 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 10:55:49 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Mitty Bad News
In-Reply-To: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76978648@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>
References: <8CA7E11849AAFD7-BAC-2DAE@webmail-ne01.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <48218AB5.24214.AC12B28@localhost>

REgarding a dead alternator, the question arose:
> Now - repair original or one-wire... That is the question....

Is you car taxing the original alternator (added lights, big stereo,
whatever)? Do you have other problems (bad wiring, flaky
regulator)? If you have a stock setup, with good wiring and no
special needs, then a set of brushes in the existing alternator
and you're likely ready to go. A one-wire means easier to get a
replacement on the road, it bypasses bad wiring, it gives more
power BUT requires bypassing the ammeter so now you don't know
when that new alt goes south :-)

Yes, yes, there's ways around that. Use a shunt and have the
ammeter pass part of the load. Or use a two-wire and add the idiot
light circuit. But doing it right requires wiring changes. Doing it
wrong risks burning down the car.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov  Wed May  7 12:16:54 2008
From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03))
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 13:16:54 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Mitty Bad News
In-Reply-To: <48218AB5.24214.AC12B28@localhost>
References: <8CA7E11849AAFD7-BAC-2DAE@webmail-ne01.sysops.aol.com>
	<48218AB5.24214.AC12B28@localhost>
Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF7697884C@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>

 Good points John.  My '66 has the one-wire GM alt and like it.  It
takes charging issues out of the equation, but as you said - there are
draw-backs.

On the 67 2000, the wiring is in very good condition and has a new
regulator.  I will have the system tested and put it back stock.  I
don't have plans for 12" woofers or even driving lights.

The alternator on the car is made by Mitsubishi.  Is that stock????  I
don't remember them being manufactured by Mitu.  The other alts I have I
think are built by Hitachi.  Hope to get it all sorted out Friday.

Phil

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of John F Sandhoff
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:56 PM
To: Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Mitty Bad News

REgarding a dead alternator, the question arose:
> Now - repair original or one-wire... That is the question....

Is you car taxing the original alternator (added lights, big stereo,
whatever)? Do you have other problems (bad wiring, flaky regulator)? If
you have a stock setup, with good wiring and no special needs, then a
set of brushes in the existing alternator and you're likely ready to go.
A one-wire means easier to get a replacement on the road, it bypasses
bad wiring, it gives more power BUT requires bypassing the ammeter so
now you don't know when that new alt goes south :-)

Yes, yes, there's ways around that. Use a shunt and have the ammeter
pass part of the load. Or use a two-wire and add the idiot light
circuit. But doing it right requires wiring changes. Doing it wrong
risks burning down the car.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA
________________________________________

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed May  7 12:42:03 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 18:42:03 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator BBQ (was "Re:  Mitty Bad News")
Message-ID: <050720081842.29812.4821F7FB000C6DD0000074742200745672CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Maybe you get a discount when you buy alternators by the six-pack. .....<g>

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Gary McCormick <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net>
> 5 alternators in a year... ?
> 
> Good that you figured out that the wiring thing was the root of your 
> problem, but have you ever heard the famous definition of insanity? 
> Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different 
> result...  ;^)
> 
> Gary McCormick
> San Jose, CA
> 
> Matthew A. Smith wrote:
> 
> >Thanks for the GHF perspective Jon,
> >
> >Now the glass is nearly > full, since I ALSO figured out why Im on my 5th
> >10SI alternator in a little over a year. There are two ways to wire these
> >things. Heres a hint. Dont wire it BOTH ways. It turns out electricity
> >doesnt like to go in two directions on the same wire. It tends to burn up
> >diodes and voltage regulators REALLY FAST! My volt meter needle no longer
> >waves at me after about 100 miles of installing a new alt. Ill miss the
> >little fella. Another plus is that I can now swap alternators in my car in
> >about 1 = minutes if necessary. A real advantage for the Mechanic on the
> >go!.
> >
> >So, anyone have the dates for next years Mitty yet? :-)
> >
> >I have one more day of vacation left. Im heading to North Carolina in a few
> >minutes. Guna go run the Tail of the Dragon a few times.
> >
> >Matt Smith
> >
> >
> >Definitely a bummer that it happened but from a "glass is half full"
> >perspective it was a good thing you were paying attention so it didn't get
> >worse.
> >
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> >Huntington Beach
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From hallosb at juno.com  Wed May  7 13:28:10 2008
From: hallosb at juno.com (hallosb at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 19:28:10 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] Was Mitty Bad News: Now Mitsubushi alternator
Message-ID: <20080507.122810.21976.0@webmail23.vgs.untd.com>

Stock alternator on my '66 is Mitsubishi.
Dan McHatton
'66 1600
-----------------------------------------
The alternator on the car is made by Mitsubishi.  Is that stock????

Phil

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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed May  7 13:34:06 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 19:34:06 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Mitty Bad News
Message-ID: <050720081934.18739.4822042E000BFA82000049332206998499CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

IIRC the external voltage regulators were made by both Mitsubishi and Hitachi. The Parts Manual only shows Mitsubishi for the alternator.

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)" <Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov>
>  Good points John.  My '66 has the one-wire GM alt and like it.  It
> takes charging issues out of the equation, but as you said - there are
> draw-backs.
> 
> On the 67 2000, the wiring is in very good condition and has a new
> regulator.  I will have the system tested and put it back stock.  I
> don't have plans for 12" woofers or even driving lights.
> 
> The alternator on the car is made by Mitsubishi.  Is that stock????  I
> don't remember them being manufactured by Mitu.  The other alts I have I
> think are built by Hitachi.  Hope to get it all sorted out Friday.
> 
> Phil
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of John F Sandhoff
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:56 PM
> To: Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)
> Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Mitty Bad News
> 
> REgarding a dead alternator, the question arose:
> > Now - repair original or one-wire... That is the question....
> 
> Is you car taxing the original alternator (added lights, big stereo,
> whatever)? Do you have other problems (bad wiring, flaky regulator)? If
> you have a stock setup, with good wiring and no special needs, then a
> set of brushes in the existing alternator and you're likely ready to go.
> A one-wire means easier to get a replacement on the road, it bypasses
> bad wiring, it gives more power BUT requires bypassing the ammeter so
> now you don't know when that new alt goes south :-)
> 
> Yes, yes, there's ways around that. Use a shunt and have the ammeter
> pass part of the load. Or use a two-wire and add the idiot light
> circuit. But doing it right requires wiring changes. Doing it wrong
> risks burning down the car.
> 
> -- John
>      John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA
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From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Wed May  7 13:42:51 2008
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 14:42:51 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Alternate alternator set-ups
Message-ID: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755DA3C664@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>

John wrote:
<< A one-wire means easier to get a replacement on the road, it bypasses
bad wiring, it gives more power BUT requires bypassing the ammeter so
now you don't know when that new alt goes south :-)  ......Or use a
two-wire and add the idiot light circuit.   >>

I guess I got lucky (sure wasn't "wiring wisdom" on my part, eh John?)
but I followed the 1-wire installation instructions on 311s.org,
including the idiot light circuit, and ended up with a functioning
ammeter.  Then, when my temp gauge sender went south, I found an
aftermarket 3-gauge set with a properly threaded temp sender adaptor,
and came with a  voltmeter, so now I have both ammeter and voltmeter.

Linda wrote:
<<  I think the key is to have a spare alt in the trunk. Quick change
and keep on going.   >>
Nah Linda, the key is mount the spare alt in the trunk, being driven off
the back wheels, (like the scrub wheels on bicycle lights) then just
throw a large toggle switch - without stopping of course -  to change
power sources!

Fergus O
Aka:
Elmer O'ElectronEscape

From vincent.vaccaro at us.pwc.com  Wed May  7 14:07:58 2008
From: vincent.vaccaro at us.pwc.com (vincent.vaccaro at us.pwc.com)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 16:07:58 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 2nd NY NJ CT Datusn Roadster Meet
In-Reply-To: <mailman.11499.1210182957.1200.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <OFC45D6BAE.D1A398E6-ON85257442.006E834F-85257442.006E995D@pwc.com>

2nd NY, NJ, CT Datsun Roadster Meet.


The 2nd NY, NJ, CT Datsun Roadster Meet will be held Saturday, May 17, 
from 12 noon to 6 pm. The event will be held at the Captain Lawrence 
Brewing Company, Pleasantville, New York 10570. Link to the brewery 
website and directions;  http://www.captainlawrencebrewing.com/

The event is open to all Datsun Roadsters, and is not limited to Roadsters 
from the Tri State area.  There is an open invitation to all DRONE and 
MADROC members, in addition to anyone who would like to make the drive and 
attend. For those who do not have a running Roadster please consider 
attending, this will be a great opportunity to get mechanical advice and 
meet your fellow Roadster owners. 

Last years, under rainy skies, 5 Roadsters were in attendance along with 8 
additional Roadster owners. Link to pictures;
http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=8AZtmjlu1ZuWET

The Captain Lawrence Brewery is owned by my son and May 17 is the 3rd 
anniversary of the Brewery opening. There will a barbeque , live music 
through out the day and of course " beer " .  ( there will be a small 
charge for the barbeque ).

Hotels: 

http://tourism.westchestergov.com/accomodations/accommodationNew.asp?lngCategoryID=3

You will note, there is nothing really inexpensive in Westchester. 
In the immediate area ( 10 to 15 min ) drive from Pleasantville are the 
towns of " Hawthorne, Rye, Rye Brook, Armonk ,Mt Kisco, Tarrytown and 
Elmsford " which are all very nice areas and should be safe to park the 
car. A note about some of the Tarrytown and Elmsford hotels. Some of these 
hotels are fairly large, catering to the business traveller on the 287/87 
corridor and have big parking lots. 

I would avoid "White Plains, New Rochelle, and Yonkers" as these are 
larger cities and the hotels are generally downtown. 

Any specific questions please post here or e-mail me;

Vincent.vaccaro at us.pwc.com




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From hallosb at juno.com  Wed May  7 14:16:09 2008
From: hallosb at juno.com (hallosb at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 20:16:09 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] Stock versus modified
Message-ID: <20080507.131609.21976.1@webmail23.vgs.untd.com>

I know I'll never win the argument but, I agree with Sid.   The reality is
there aren't many clean originals left. With the low production numbers and
the fact that convertibles left out in the elements suffer more than hardtops,
means clean Roadsters will be harder to find.
So, it's up to the buyer to decide stock or modified.  You're going to spend
loads of cash, either way. Right now, the fad is hot rods and muscle cars.
So, we're seeing more and more modifieds. I'd like to see the balance tip back
to stock cars. Looking at machinery designed in a different era is much more
interesting to me. I've seen the Barrett-Jackson auction in Phoenix go from
old Cadillacs, Packards, La Salles, to non-stop Chevelles, Camaros, Mustangs,
and Hot Rods. Once you've seen a big block Chevy stuffed into everything from
a bar stool to a Lincoln Zephyr, you tend to lose interest.
My 2 cents.
Dan McHatton
'66 1600
-------------------------------------------
Well, here is my not too humble opinion.  If you have a clean original, you
are doing a disservice to the automotive community by doing modifications
other than wheels and paint colors.

Flame away, I am off the soapbox now...Sidney Raper1964 1500


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From gogineni.alvin at gene.com  Wed May  7 15:01:57 2008
From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 14:01:57 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Stock versus modified
In-Reply-To: <20080507.131609.21976.1@webmail23.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20080507.131609.21976.1@webmail23.vgs.untd.com>
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I don't think there is reason to worry...
At the last Solvang roadster show there were 3 "modified" non-race roadsters
and about 79 stock(paint, interior, wheels) cars!

However I think the number of "restored to stock" cars definitely beats the
original surviors...

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of hallosb at juno.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:16 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stock versus modified

I know I'll never win the argument but, I agree with Sid.   The reality is
there aren't many clean originals left. With the low production numbers and
the fact that convertibles left out in the elements suffer more than
hardtops,
means clean Roadsters will be harder to find.
So, it's up to the buyer to decide stock or modified.  You're going to spend
loads of cash, either way. Right now, the fad is hot rods and muscle cars.
So, we're seeing more and more modifieds. I'd like to see the balance tip
back
to stock cars. Looking at machinery designed in a different era is much more
interesting to me. I've seen the Barrett-Jackson auction in Phoenix go from
old Cadillacs, Packards, La Salles, to non-stop Chevelles, Camaros,
Mustangs,
and Hot Rods. Once you've seen a big block Chevy stuffed into everything
from
a bar stool to a Lincoln Zephyr, you tend to lose interest.
My 2 cents.
Dan McHatton
'66 1600
-------------------------------------------
Well, here is my not too humble opinion.  If you have a clean original, you
are doing a disservice to the automotive community by doing modifications
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From bradandgayle at charter.net  Wed May  7 17:50:01 2008
From: bradandgayle at charter.net (Brad and Gayle Holmes)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 18:50:01 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Mid June show
Message-ID: <007501c8b09d$16dbd980$ab02a8c0@holmes>

Dear SEROCers & the Roadster net

SEROC member "Mister Alternator" I almost made it to the Mitty, Matt Smith
from Nashville, TN asked me to send this opportunity out to the club and I've
included the roadster net to cover anyone in the mid south and northeast.

I have one or two more quick emails to send out to you then I'll send a recap
of the Mitty. Stay tuned........................ or not:-)
Thanks Matt!

Brad Holmes
SEROC


----- Original Message -----
From: Matthew A. Smith
To: 'Brad and Gayle Holmes'
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 8:15 AM
Subject: Mid June show


Hi Brad,

Check this out. Looks like a fun thing to "forward" to the SEROCers, and it's
for a good cause.

In June there's a nice multi make show in Athens GA:

http://www.mbcapeachtree.org/events.aspx



Matt Smith

From jrdmf at aol.com  Wed May  7 18:36:51 2008
From: jrdmf at aol.com (jrdmf at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 20:36:51 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 68 on ebay
Message-ID: <8CA7EBABDEFBFC3-A84-18C4@webmail-nf10.sim.aol.com>

Anybody know anything about this car? I drug a friend along to Solvang this year and he caught himself a major case of Rodster-itis so?he's thinking about going after this one. He's considering driving it home (to California) if he wins it so any input would be greatly appreciated?

Thanks in advance

Jon Frampton
Huntington Beach Ca

From jrdmf at aol.com  Wed May  7 18:39:52 2008
From: jrdmf at aol.com (jrdmf at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 20:39:52 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
Message-ID: <8CA7EBB297F9786-A84-18F5@webmail-nf10.sim.aol.com>

Anybody know anything about this car? I drug a friend along to Solvang this year and he caught himself a major case of Rodster-itis so?he's thinking about going after this one. He's considering driving it home (to California) if he wins it so any input would be greatly appreciated?

Thanks in advance

Jon Frampton
Huntington Beach Ca

Guess the item number would help... Sorry about that. 180238414307

From fergus06 at socal.rr.com  Wed May  7 18:45:25 2008
From: fergus06 at socal.rr.com (Fergus OFarrell)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 17:45:25 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] She lives! (aka: 1500 pos ground learning experience),
 SoCalROC  Intervention
Message-ID: <005c01c8b0a4$d2688750$e5bb1e18@fergus031a2176>

Hey Patti and SoCalROC crowd,
I have a babysitter (okay, the kids do) from 2-6pm this Saturday, and that is
too late to drive to the bar-b-q in DanaPoint, so if anyone is up for helping
Patti get her car more roadworthy, I'll bring the following:

-jack stands
-all brake bleeding eqip and supplies
-dial back timing light
-lotsa tools

I am not ashamed to say that I have had my roadster for 7 years, with SU's,
and don't know D@#$K about tuning carbs or valve timing, but will be glad to
help.

Anyone up for an intervention?  I have never worked on a 1600 (or 1500) and
this car needs to get over the hump, so it can get back on the road and
struggle with the problems the rest of us encounter!

Fergus O
69 2000
HB, CA

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Wed May  7 19:20:25 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 21:20:25 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Mitty Bad News
In-Reply-To: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76978648@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <000001c8b0a9$b3083400$6800a8c0@delled48909442>

There are a few downsides to a one wire alternator in an older car.
Short version, it doesn't regulate the voltage as well as a 3 wire with
the sensing wire at proper place.  That said, my one wire has been
trouble free.
Mounted it on drivers side (69 2000), factory bracket, no muss no fuss,
ran a 10 ga to the battery switch and all done.  Have pics if anyone
wonders how it all fits on the drivers side.

This guy knows WAY more than me.  His whole site is very informative and
addictive if you are a tech junkie.  The part about fusible links could
save a lot of harnesses. Read and then decide.

http://www.madelectrical.com/electricaltech/onewire-threewire.shtml

Dave Brisco
ECR



-----Original Message-----
From: Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03) [mailto:Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov] 
 
 Yea, but Matt's luck is spreading.....

I got my Roadster together in time for the Mitty, but other obligations
stood in the way.  So, I was driving my Roadster and my alternator quit!
I noticed my amp gage on the negative side of its world.  If I would
have taken off to the Mitty, Matt would have had good "return" company.

Now - repair original or one-wire... That is the question....

Phil
SEROC

From bradandgayle at charter.net  Wed May  7 19:38:22 2008
From: bradandgayle at charter.net (Brad and Gayle Holmes)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 20:38:22 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster wanted
Message-ID: <01b201c8b0ac$3996b260$ab02a8c0@holmes>

Dear SEROCers and the net

SEROCer Jeff Etheridge from Nashville, TN has a friend with a need for a
roadster.  If you can help Jeff and "friend" please email Jeff at the address
below.

Thanks!

Brad
SEROC



From: jeff etheridge [mailto:etheridge_jeff at yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 9:15 AM
To: Brad Holmes
Subject: Roadster wanted




      I have a friend in Nashville looking for a rust free roadster...would
you ask the list if anyone has a roadster for sale, price and photos if
possible?

       thanks,

       jeff





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From bradandgayle at charter.net  Wed May  7 19:47:20 2008
From: bradandgayle at charter.net (Brad and Gayle Holmes)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 20:47:20 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster for sale!
References: <041520081626.2011.4804D74D0006B864000007DB22165258560A960A0A9D0D970E@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <01b801c8b0ad$7ae3f650$ab02a8c0@holmes>

Dear SEROCers

SEROC member Arthur Young in West Palm Beach, FL has/had his silver, 1968,
2000 for sale on ebay. Please email Arthur for details.

Thanks
Brad
SEROC
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: aybreeze at comcast.net
  To: Brad and Gayle Holmes
  Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:26 AM
  Subject: Re: SEROC site is back up!


  Brad
         Just thought you might like to know My 1968 2000 is currently listed
on Ebay under *Datsun* reasons for sellin stated in Ad
                                                                             
    Arthur young

    -------------- Original message --------------
    From: "Brad and Gayle Holmes" <bradandgayle at charter.net>

    Dear SEROCers

    I sent this out once (or I thought I did) but, it appears it may not have
gone any further than my own mail box????????????????

    A huge "THANK YOU" to Tom Phelan for getting our website back up on line.
The new URL is below. As you'll see I have a lot of updates to make. We are
looking to do some redesign and add new features in the future.  Happy
surfing! and stay tuned!

    Brad

    http://www.seroc.net/

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Wed May  7 19:46:42 2008
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 20:46:42 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] how hard can it be?????
References: <BAY106-W54ECC65AFFCCD9ED091ADDDFE40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000401c8b0ad$5ed1fcf0$8215a8c0@garage.local>

take the windshield off, take it apart, get it rechromed, and put it back 
together.  no problem, right?

aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh

the frame is more or less self explanatory (i've got that), but those two 
angular brackets - how do they go on?  can someone help me, maybe 
pictures?????  and no, of the zillions i took, not one of the windshield. 
not even one!!!!!

early 67 low windshield 1600

thanks!!!!! 

From graemes at internode.on.net  Wed May  7 20:34:22 2008
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 12:04:22 +0930
Subject: [Roadsters] how hard can it be?????
In-Reply-To: <000401c8b0ad$5ed1fcf0$8215a8c0@garage.local>
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	<000401c8b0ad$5ed1fcf0$8215a8c0@garage.local>
Message-ID: <000901c8b0b4$08c79ac0$236fa8c0@desktop>

Are the parts two Z shaped stainless strips?
Methinks they are P/N#47 and 49 in attachment.
By co-incidence, there is a discussion on this very topic on 311s.org atm.
http://www.311s.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=52433#52433

They are rivetted to the end frames. and provide the surface for mounting
weatherstrip P/N#57.
Hope this helps. 


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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Wed May  7 20:46:18 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 22:46:18 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Mitty Bad News
In-Reply-To: <48218AB5.24214.AC12B28@localhost>
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Oh, I forgot to mention, if you do the three wire GM conversion in an
early car, a Stewart Warner volt gauge looks pretty close to stock, in a
late car, you can adapt the "B" brake warning light to be an alternator
idiot light.  If the brakes fail, your foot will tell you before the
light comes on. And bypass the amp gauge. 

The one wire alt, run direct to the battery on a new wire, bypasses the
amp gauge.  It still works, but is completely inaccurate, shows only the
draw of the body harness.

Even if you stay stock, good idea to go through all the high current
connections and clean them up and reconnect with dielectric grease.
Might be surprised how bad some of them are if you look.

 Funny coincidence, the alternator failed on my 97 Chevy work van last
Thursday.  I happened to be eating lunch in a parking lot and glanced
down at the volt gauge.  It was reading low, almost to the 9 mark.
Being I have a multimeter sitting next to me, I stuck it in the lighter,
10 volts, not going up when the engine revs.  Finished lunch driving the
5 miles back to the shop ac off, radio off etc to drop it off.  Lucky I
noticed it, my next stop was 50 miles away and it probably would have
died halfway there on the New Jersey Turnpike.  You think they could
last more than 180,000 miles! :)


Dave Brisco
ECR
-----Original Message-----
From: John F Sandhoff [mailto:sandhoff at csus.edu] 
 
 
REgarding a dead alternator, the question arose:
> Now - repair original or one-wire... That is the question....

Is you car taxing the original alternator (added lights, big stereo,
whatever)? Do you have other problems (bad wiring, flaky
regulator)? If you have a stock setup, with good wiring and no
special needs, then a set of brushes in the existing alternator
and you're likely ready to go. A one-wire means easier to get a
replacement on the road, it bypasses bad wiring, it gives more
power BUT requires bypassing the ammeter so now you don't know
when that new alt goes south :-)

Yes, yes, there's ways around that. Use a shunt and have the
ammeter pass part of the load. Or use a two-wire and add the idiot
light circuit. But doing it right requires wiring changes. Doing it
wrong risks burning down the car.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From gregs672liter at netzero.net  Wed May  7 21:05:35 2008
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 03:05:35 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] Mitty Bad News
Message-ID: <20080507.200535.15497.1@webmail08.vgs.untd.com>

You can run the wires to both the batt and the amp gauge to keep it in the
loop.  It is very clear on my car when the alternator is not engaged (when you
first start the car and the revs are low the alt does not engage until above
2000 rpms or so, being that it is self exciting).  The gauge reads a strong
draw.  The times when the fuse has blown has also shown on the gauge.
Greg Burrows
67 2000

-- "dave" <daveandlindab at comcast.net> wrote:
Oh, I forgot to mention, if you do the three wire GM conversion in an
early car, a Stewart Warner volt gauge looks pretty close to stock, in a
late car, you can adapt the "B" brake warning light to be an alternator
idiot light.  If the brakes fail, your foot will tell you before the
light comes on. And bypass the amp gauge.

The one wire alt, run direct to the battery on a new wire, bypasses the
amp gauge.  It still works, but is completely inaccurate, shows only the
draw of the body harness.

Even if you stay stock, good idea to go through all the high current
connections and clean them up and reconnect with dielectric grease.
Might be surprised how bad some of them are if you look.

Funny coincidence, the alternator failed on my 97 Chevy work van last
Thursday.  I happened to be eating lunch in a parking lot and glanced
down at the volt gauge.  It was reading low, almost to the 9 mark.
Being I have a multimeter sitting next to me, I stuck it in the lighter,
10 volts, not going up when the engine revs.  Finished lunch driving the
5 miles back to the shop ac off, radio off etc to drop it off.  Lucky I
noticed it, my next stop was 50 miles away and it probably would have
died halfway there on the New Jersey Turnpike.  You think they could
last more than 180,000 miles! :)


Dave Brisco
ECR
-----Original Message-----
From: John F Sandhoff [mailto:sandhoff at csus.edu]


REgarding a dead alternator, the question arose:
> Now - repair original or one-wire... That is the question....

Is you car taxing the original alternator (added lights, big stereo,
whatever)? Do you have other problems (bad wiring, flaky
regulator)? If you have a stock setup, with good wiring and no
special needs, then a set of brushes in the existing alternator
and you're likely ready to go. A one-wire means easier to get a
replacement on the road, it bypasses bad wiring, it gives more
power BUT requires bypassing the ammeter so now you don't know
when that new alt goes south :-)

Yes, yes, there's ways around that. Use a shunt and have the
ammeter pass part of the load. Or use a two-wire and add the idiot
light circuit. But doing it right requires wiring changes. Doing it
wrong risks burning down the car.

-- John
    John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA
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From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 09:44:44 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd:  Check out mittypics
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Thanks to Richard for putting my pictures into a more civilized form!
 
kw
 
 
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Keith,

Thanks for the pictures.  I setup a web page with  the pictures if you want 
to share the address it  is.

http://www.reblues.net/Mitty2008/

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to share the address it is.

http://www.reblues.net/Mitty2008/

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> Hello all,
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From sportsix63 at yahoo.com  Thu May  8 16:52:30 2008
From: sportsix63 at yahoo.com (jim williams)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 15:52:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Tires and Solenoid Info
Message-ID: <946192.21173.qm@web32504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I need to get a solenoid for a 1970 1600.
Rock Auto does not have the correct one.
Local starter repair shop said "go fish"
Any ideas?
Tires: Tire Rack says that 195x60x14 are the correct
match. Several people answered my last post with using
185x70x14.
I need to keep the rpms the same or at best reduce the
highway rpms.
Thanks

  Jim Williams
  Lewisburg, West Virginia





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From jedwabny at earthlink.net  Thu May  8 17:55:29 2008
From: jedwabny at earthlink.net (Joseph Jedwabny)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 16:55:29 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [Roadsters] My '69 1600
Message-ID: <20253799.1210290930022.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hello all,

I am in Scotts Valley, CA (Santa Cruz county) and was wanting to check the list's interest about my '69 "BumbleBee."

She has been with me for around 10 years, always garaged or kept under cover since I've owned her. I don't drive her much and I'm contemplating selling her if the price is right. Minor rust on bumpers, STRONG engine, only complaint is she is a little hard to start. Never overheated, no accidents, etc. She could use a new parking brake cable as well.

See pictures at www.mygoodstuff4sale.com.

(I also have a Toyota 4-Runner on that site that needs a head gasket but super nice as well. It's a 84)

If high on the "bee" is 13K, and low is 3500 I'm not sure what will be the magic number. I just per her on Craig's List.

Honestly, I wouldn't sell her to anyone who won't take her seriously.
She is a special car, for real. You know how it is.

Feel free to email me if interested.

Thanks,
JJ

From tom at datsun2000.com  Thu May  8 18:31:31 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 17:31:31 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Tires and Solenoid Info
In-Reply-To: <946192.21173.qm@web32504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGIEMPDEAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

When I thought I had problems with the starter solenoid on my 2000 I removed
the solenoid from the starter and disassembled the solenoid.  What I found
was a large copper disk that is pulled down onto two very heavy contacts
connecting the battery to the starter.

The copper disk and contacts had collected copper from their respective
contacts.  If I remember correctly condition of the disk was not to bad
because I suspect the disk rotates as it is used.  The fixed contacts had a
large buildup of copper, greatly reducing the contact surface.

I filed the fixed contacts flat to restore the contact surface and smoothed
the copper disk.  The starter works, but it is now my spare starter because
after all of that the engine still would not turn over when the starter was
engaged.  Another engine fixed that problem.....

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

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Behalf Of jim williams
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 3:53 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Tires and Solenoid Info


I need to get a solenoid for a 1970 1600.
Rock Auto does not have the correct one.
Local starter repair shop said "go fish"
Any ideas?
Tires: Tire Rack says that 195x60x14 are the correct
match. Several people answered my last post with using
185x70x14.
I need to keep the rpms the same or at best reduce the
highway rpms.
Thanks

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  Lewisburg, West Virginia





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From gregs672liter at netzero.net  Fri May  9 00:30:57 2008
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 06:30:57 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] side moulding needed
Message-ID: <20080508.233057.29098.1@webmail09.vgs.untd.com>

Greetings list, I am in need of a complete set of side moulding for a late
model.  I have been redoing the body work on my 2000 and contemplating the
elimination of all side moulding (mine was non-stock) but after looking at the
lines of the car, I have decided that the separation (particularly in the rear
quarters) was there for a reason, and I would have to put in a lot of body
filler to make the lines match up well with the rest of the car.  If you have
a set, please contact me off list and let me know what you want for it.  I
also have a few things I would consider trading for, such as almost new OER
Racing carbs (Mikuni/Weber hybrids) for a 2000...
Greg Burrows
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From andycost at embarqmail.com  Fri May  9 05:18:27 2008
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 06:18:27 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] ECU for sale
In-Reply-To: <946192.21173.qm@web32504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <JBEKJICFFOFCBHHGLNFDEEHADDAA.andycost@embarqmail.com>

For the benefit of those not watching the 311's.org forum.

I've got for sale a JWT ECU for an S13 KA24DE or SR20DE. It is for a stock
motor, normally aspirated, and manual tranny. It raises the rev limiter,
removes the speed limiter, and advances the timing. It is a vast improvement
over the stock computer. I replaced the JWT 40 pin ribbon cable with a
header and an IDE cable. If you want to upgrade later to a bikirom,
calumsult, nistune, etc... this is the ecu for you. All the soldering is
already done. Just plug and play the new daughterboard. The JWT sells for
$595 new. I'll let this one go for $400 plus shipping.

The complaint about the stock KA24DE is that it is a slow revving low rpm
motor. This "chipped" ECU wakes the motor up. The ignition advance and
higher rev limiter gives the KA new attitude. It also suits the SR20DE which
always seems to hit the rev limiter just when things are getting
interesting. You can expect 15-20 hp increase from this ECU.

It is a factory Nissan ECU that has a daughterboard "chip" in it. It plugs
into the wiring harness exactly like the stock one. There is no additional
modification that needs to be made. Just remove the stock ECU and plug this
one in.

Thanks,

Andy

From tputland at charter.net  Fri May  9 08:41:46 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 7:41:46 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Part request email from the other day?
Message-ID: <20080509104146.WNUR0.248780.root@fepweb04>

Who posted that SRL grill part request please?

Contact me off list if you would be so kind.

Thanks

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From tom at datsun2000.com  Fri May  9 11:07:46 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 10:07:46 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Part request email from the other day?
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGMEMPDEAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

Tim,

The request was sent to my by Holger, in Sweden.  Here is the note he sent
to me.

Tom
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

============

Hi Tom,
my name is Holger and I4m a Datsun SRL owner from Sweden, I need a grill to
my car, could you help me with that?

holger.freundlich at siemens.com

rgs
Holger

================

On 5/9/2008 7:41:46 AM, Tim (tputland at charter.net) wrote:
> Who posted that SRL grill part request please?
>
> Contact me off list if you would be so kind.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning

From 12061997 at comcast.net  Fri May  9 12:13:48 2008
From: 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 18:13:48 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] primer
Message-ID: <050920081813.11687.4824945C000C46F100002DA72200763704C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net>

Hi guys, I have sanded my 1600 down to metal but have some more filling of  small dents like door nicks yet to do. My local paint supply store says a product by Evercoat callled Quick Sand is the best to put over the bare metal. The car will not be painted for several months.  They said I could come back and even fill over it. Has anyone used this product or if you have some  suggestions please drop me a line.....Thanks, Bob Ballinger,Muncie,IN 67/1600 

From 12061997 at comcast.net  Fri May  9 12:23:51 2008
From: 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 18:23:51 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] primer
Message-ID: <050920081823.26129.482496B7000AD805000066112200763704C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net>

Just read my own e-mail and naturally  I wrote "Quick Sand" instead of Slick Sand....If you have met you would understand!!!! bob

From gregs672liter at netzero.net  Fri May  9 12:51:31 2008
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 18:51:31 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] primer
Message-ID: <20080509.115131.13037.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com>

Absolutely love this product and will use nothing else... how's that for a
recommendation?  Well worth the price... applies easier, hits faster, sands
quicker, strong, light, doesn't gum up your paper... saves you headache and
time.  Was just using it yesterday...
Greg Burrows


-- 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana) wrote:
Hi guys, I have sanded my 1600 down to metal but have some more filling of
small dents like door nicks yet to do. My local paint supply store says a
product by Evercoat callled Quick Sand is the best to put over the bare metal.
The car will not be painted for several months.  They said I could come back
and even fill over it. Has anyone used this product or if you have some
suggestions please drop me a line.....Thanks, Bob Ballinger,Muncie,IN 67/1600
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From escanlon at wa-net.com  Fri May  9 13:39:03 2008
From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 12:39:03 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] primer
References: <050920081813.11687.4824945C000C46F100002DA72200763704C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net>
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What about an etching primer FIRST, then follow it up with this product? 
Evercoat is good, but unless this product has etching properties such as 
Epoxy Primer, then you may not have the adhesion you need.

Also since you won't be working with it for months down the road, I'd top 
coat it with something.  Primer IS porous, that's one of it's properties to 
allow paint to adhere properly.  Primer's main job is to adhere to metal, 
and in this case to also provide filler for sanding.  By top coating you 
seal out any moisture from creeping into the primer and possibly causing 
surface rust.

FWIW
E


> Hi guys, I have sanded my 1600 down to metal but have some more filling of 
> small dents like door nicks yet to do. My local paint supply store says a 
> product by Evercoat callled Quick Sand is the best to put over the bare 
> metal. The car will not be painted for several months.  They said I could 
> come back and even fill over it. Has anyone used this product or if you 
> have some  suggestions please drop me a line.....Thanks, Bob 
> Ballinger,Muncie,IN 67/1600
> ________________________________________ 

From gregs672liter at netzero.net  Fri May  9 14:44:41 2008
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 20:44:41 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] primer
Message-ID: <20080509.134441.28535.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com>

Bob, for some reason I am not able to respond to your emails direct but here
is what I wrote...
I realized that after I had posted I was talking about their plastic filler,
not the primer (then noticed your posting subject).  However, if the filler is
any indication of the quality of their products I would be fully confident.  I
am sure it is a "self-etching" primer, designed for use on bare metal.  I was
just talking with my supply house yesterday about this as my car is also in
bare metal and has been for a bit, and I was concerned about rust.  They
indicated that it is not an issue with these types of primers.  Sand it clean,
wipe it down with grease/wax remover and shoot it... it will be fine.  And
yes, what you normally do is seal the car with this stuff, do your body work,
then use it as a high build primer (depends on how you mix it as to what it is
designed to do... everything from sealer to high build primer).  Once you do
your primer coats, do a guide coat to help you find your highs and lows when
you block sand.  Then prime and guide coat again etc until she is straight.
Then do a final seal and prep for color coat.  It is quite the process and you
will understand why quality paint jobs cost so much!  But it will be worth it.
You can email me anytime and I will do what I can to help with what ever
knowledge I have.
Greg

-- 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana) wrote:

Thanks Greg,....I'm a first timer....Have you used this, then filled?  or did
you sand it off to fill? I sanded the car this Fall and it's had to have
surface sanded off again and I'm afraid of letting it sit while we do other
things with it. Like put it back together at some point!!!! thanks bob
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From d-solomon at comcast.net  Fri May  9 16:02:21 2008
From: d-solomon at comcast.net (d-solomon at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 22:02:21 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] primer
Message-ID: <050920082202.986.4824C9ED0008D88A000003DA22135753330201030104019CD30B@comcast.net>

Several manufacturers make an etching epoxy primer-sealer.  The sealer will solve the porosity problem, and the etching solves the bare-metal problem.  However, it's not so great for 'filling'.  You'll still want a good glazing putty or similar for that.

Dan 

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "E Scanlon" <escanlon at wa-net.com> 

> What about an etching primer FIRST, then follow it up with this product? 
> Evercoat is good, but unless this product has etching properties such as 
> Epoxy Primer, then you may not have the adhesion you need. 
> 
> Also since you won't be working with it for months down the road, I'd top 
> coat it with something. Primer IS porous, that's one of it's properties to 
> allow paint to adhere properly. Primer's main job is to adhere to metal, 
> and in this case to also provide filler for sanding. By top coating you 
> seal out any moisture from creeping into the primer and possibly causing 
> surface rust. 
> 
> FWIW 
> E 
> 
> 
> > Hi guys, I have sanded my 1600 down to metal but have some more filling of 
> > small dents like door nicks yet to do. My local paint supply store says a 
> > product by Evercoat callled Quick Sand is the best to put over the bare 
> > metal. The car will not be painted for several months. They said I could 
> > come back and even fill over it. Has anyone used this product or if you 
> > have some suggestions please drop me a line.....Thanks, Bob 
> > Ballinger,Muncie,IN 67/1600 
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From tputland at charter.net  Fri May  9 20:27:23 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 19:27:23 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Beware of parts requests--pls read
In-Reply-To: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGMEMPDEAA.tom@datsun2000.com>
Message-ID: <20080509222723.AMTTL.393560.root@fepweb05>

I am sure I don't need to tell any one this but I am still going to.

When Tom forwarded that part request that he had received, to this list, it
most likely was a scam. I am still seriously hoping it wasn't, but read on
please.

I don't know if any one else replied to that request for an SRL grill that
came from a "Holger" in Sweden, but I did, in an effort to "help out a
'fellow' Roadster owner".

Like quite a lot of the rest of you, I have parts to sell to help finance my
addiction/obsesssssion/hobby/etc.

I wondered if this person was too good to be true since the two grilles I have
are kind of rough and He/She(?) was very interested in one of them. I named a
(reasonable but profitable) price, it was accepted, without hesitation, and we
were working out payment details. I figured since this person said they were
in Sweden, that paypal was the best bet. This person said they don't use
paypal and told me all they needed was my name and bank account number and
they would transfer the money to me. HELLOOOOO..ALARM BELLS AND ALL THAT
STUFF. Anyway, I have not heard a word since I said that I don't give out bank
info.

Again, I know that I don't have to tell most, if any of you this, but please
be careful. We are a pretty tight community; those of us who own these little
Roadsters, and it seems there are those who will try to take advantage of this
rather trusting part of our Roadster family.

I may add a permanent addition to my signature...

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning--BUT NOT THAT CLUELESS!



---- "Tom @ Datsun2000" <tom at datsun2000.com> wrote:

=============
Tim,

The request was sent to my by Holger, in Sweden.  Here is the note he sent
to me.

Tom
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

============

Hi Tom,
my name is Holger and IB4m a Datsun SRL owner from Sweden, I need a grill to
my car, could you help me with that?

holger.freundlich at siemens.com

rgs
Holger

================

On 5/9/2008 7:41:46 AM, Tim (tputland at charter.net) wrote:
> Who posted that SRL grill part request please?
>
> Contact me off list if you would be so kind.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning

From jake7140 at yahoo.com  Fri May  9 20:28:16 2008
From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 19:28:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 2, Issue 204
In-Reply-To: <mailman.27.1210356003.24134.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <317108.7482.qm@web37901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I run 185/70-14 on the stock rims (4.5"?) and 195/60-14 on the 5.5"
Libres. They seem just right in each case. With a 6" wheel you can go
to a 205/60-14.


----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 15:52:30 -0700 (PDT)
> From: jim williams <sportsix63 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Roadsters] Tires and Solenoid Info
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Message-ID: <946192.21173.qm at web32504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> I need to get a solenoid for a 1970 1600.
> Rock Auto does not have the correct one.
> Local starter repair shop said "go fish"
> Any ideas?
> Tires: Tire Rack says that 195x60x14 are the correct
> match. Several people answered my last post with using
> 185x70x14.
> I need to keep the rpms the same or at best reduce the
> highway rpms.
> Thanks
> 
>   Jim Williams
>   Lewisburg, West Virginia
> 


Steve
 
Steve's Racing web site
  www.NoNameRacing.com
Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society home
  www.elrss.com

From davesmbox at aol.com  Fri May  9 20:39:07 2008
From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 22:39:07 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Beware of parts requests--pls read
In-Reply-To: <20080509222723.AMTTL.393560.root@fepweb05>
Message-ID: <8CA805E27500B34-1B7C-F45@FWM-M45.sysops.aol.com>

WOW. I hope your wrong but you are probably right, Shit and I just bought Nigerian snow tires. No just kidding. It's hard to believe that kind of rot would invade our community.
Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
To: tom at datsun2000.com; Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, 9 May 2008 10:27 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Beware of parts requests--pls read



I am sure I don't need to tell any one this but I am still going to.

When Tom forwarded that part request that he had received, to this list, it
most likely was a scam. I am still seriously hoping it wasn't, but read on
please.

I don't know if any one else replied to that request for an SRL grill that
came from a "Holger" in Sweden, but I did, in an effort to "help out a
'fellow' Roadster owner".

Like quite a lot of the rest of you, I have parts to sell to help finance my
addiction/obsesssssion/hobby/etc.

I wondered if this person was too good to be true since the two grilles I have
are kind of rough and He/She(?) was very interested in one of them. I named a
(reasonable but profitable) price, it was accepted, without hesitation, and we
were working out payment details. I figured since this person said they were
in Sweden, that paypal was the best bet. This person said they don't use
paypal and told me all they needed was my name and bank account number and
they would transfer the money to me. HELLOOOOO..ALARM BELLS AND ALL THAT
STUFF. Anyway, I have not heard a word since I said that I don't give out bank
info.

Again, I know that I don't have to tell most, if any of you this, but please
be careful. We are a pretty tight community; those of us who own these little
Roadsters, and it seems there are those who will try to take advantage of this
rather trusting part of our Roadster family.

I may add a permanent addition to my signature...

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning--BUT NOT THAT CLUELESS!



---- "Tom @ Datsun2000" <tom at datsun2000.com> wrote:

=============
Tim,

The request was sent to my by Holger, in Sweden.  Here is the note he sent
to me.

Tom
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

============

Hi Tom,
my name is Holger and IB4m a Datsun SRL owner from Sweden, I need a grill to
my car, could you help me with that?

holger.freundlich at siemens.com

rgs
Holger

================

On 5/9/2008 7:41:46 AM, Tim (tputland at charter.net) wrote:
> Who posted that SRL grill part request please?
>
> Contact me off list if you would be so kind.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Fri May  9 21:54:05 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 23:54:05 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Beware of parts requests--pls read
In-Reply-To: <20080509222723.AMTTL.393560.root@fepweb05>
Message-ID: <000001c8b251$7f6a7f00$6800a8c0@delled48909442>

Wait, You mean I didn't win the Irish sweepstakes or have an uncle die
in Botswana (even though I'm from England) and inherit 28.2 million
dollars?

It's ironic when you think about it people must fall for it once in a
while or the scams wouldn't be out there.

Dave Brisco
Maybe not a Millionaire 

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim [mailto:tputland at charter.net] 
 
Subject: [Roadsters] Beware of parts requests--pls read
Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning--BUT NOT THAT CLUELESS!



---- "Tom @ Datsun2000" <tom at datsun2000.com> wrote:

=============
Tim,

The request was sent to my by Holger, in Sweden.  Here is the note he
sent
to me.

Tom
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

============

Hi Tom,
my name is Holger and IB4m a Datsun SRL owner from Sweden, I need a
grill to
my car, could you help me with that?

holger.freundlich at siemens.com

rgs
Holger

================

On 5/9/2008 7:41:46 AM, Tim (tputland at charter.net) wrote:
> Who posted that SRL grill part request please?
>
> Contact me off list if you would be so kind.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Fri May  9 23:30:17 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 22:30:17 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT - Web Site
Message-ID: <BAY106-W218E7D497D6DCEAA24C36CDFD20@phx.gbl>

Looking to establish a website - hopefully free - or minimal cost - any
suggestions
Peter

From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com  Sat May 10 06:18:43 2008
From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 05:18:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 2, Issue 204
In-Reply-To: <317108.7482.qm@web37901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <38605.87949.qm@web53003.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I'm guessing that some will have "rubbibg" problems
with 6" rims & 205/60's.  (depending on the offset) I
had problems with 6" rims & 195/60 X 14's on my '66,
but they were fine on my '68 (the leaf springs may
have been tired on my '66, but also rear wheel well
issues.  Good luck..

Mike SC
--- Steve Jacobson <jake7140 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I run 185/70-14 on the stock rims (4.5"?) and
> 195/60-14 on the 5.5"
> Libres. They seem just right in each case. With a 6"
> wheel you can go
> to a 205/60-14.
> 
> 
>
----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 15:52:30 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: jim williams <sportsix63 at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [Roadsters] Tires and Solenoid Info
> > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> > Message-ID:
> <946192.21173.qm at web32504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> > 
> > I need to get a solenoid for a 1970 1600.
> > Rock Auto does not have the correct one.
> > Local starter repair shop said "go fish"
> > Any ideas?
> > Tires: Tire Rack says that 195x60x14 are the
> correct
> > match. Several people answered my last post with
> using
> > 185x70x14.
> > I need to keep the rpms the same or at best reduce
> the
> > highway rpms.
> > Thanks
> > 
> >   Jim Williams
> >   Lewisburg, West Virginia
> > 
> 
> 
> Steve
>  
> Steve's Racing web site
>   www.NoNameRacing.com
> Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society home
>   www.elrss.com
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From RoadsterGB at aol.com  Sat May 10 06:32:09 2008
From: RoadsterGB at aol.com (RoadsterGB at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 08:32:09 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] NY Times article on Datsun history
Message-ID: <c2b.26448b26.3556efc9@aol.com>

Nice reference to the roadster in the New York Times, 11 May 2008. Eric  
Hoffman is quoted - nice one Eric.
 
_http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/automobiles/collectibles/11DATSUN.html?_r=1
&ref=automobiles&oref=slogin_ 
(http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/automobiles/collectibles/11DATSUN.html?_r=1&ref=automobiles&oref=slogin) 
 
Greetings from England
 
Rob
_www.fairlady.org_ (http://www.fairlady.org) 

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Sat May 10 07:27:27 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 09:27:27 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Beware of parts requests--pls read
Message-ID: <c07.35b0c3ac.3556fcbf@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/9/2008 7:28:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time,  
tputland at charter.net writes:

This  person said they don't use
paypal and told me all they needed was my name  and bank account number and
they would transfer the money to me.  HELLOOOOO..ALARM BELLS AND ALL THAT
STUFF. Anyway, I have not heard a word  since I said that I don't give out 
bank
info.



If you give them the info to put money into your account they can also take  
money out. After it gets bounced through half a dozen banks around the world 
and  ends up who knows where there is no chance of tracking it down or getting 
it  back. If he actually needed roadster parts he could have taken the money  
after he received the parts. Talk about adding insult to injury. 
 
keith



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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Sat May 10 09:42:56 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 11:42:56 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Beware of parts requests--pls read
In-Reply-To: <c07.35b0c3ac.3556fcbf@aol.com>
References: <c07.35b0c3ac.3556fcbf@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CA80CBA6D06F54-D4C-4AF@webmail-nf18.sim.aol.com>

 I don't think you can take money out of someone's account just by having their account number? Otherwise every check you wrote to anyone is a risk.? Paypal is a risk because they can do a chargeback.? You could always set up a new account with $100 in it and receive the wire transfer then after that close the account.
Linda


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith0alan at aol.com
To: tputland at charter.net; tom at datsun2000.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Sat, 10 May 2008 6:27 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Beware of parts requests--pls read










In a message dated 5/9/2008 7:28:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time,  
tputland at charter.net writes:

This  person said they don't use
paypal and told me all they needed was my name  and bank account number and
they would transfer the money to me.  HELLOOOOO..ALARM BELLS AND ALL THAT
STUFF. Anyway, I have not heard a word  since I said that I don't give out 
bank
info.



If you give them the info to put money into your account they can also take  
money out. After it gets bounced through half a dozen banks around the world 
and  ends up who knows where there is no chance of tracking it down or getting 
it  back. If he actually needed roadster parts he could have taken the money  
after he received the parts. Talk about adding insult to injury. 
 
keith



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From sandhoff at csus.edu  Sat May 10 09:57:39 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 08:57:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] OT Bank Routing (was: Beware of parts requests)
In-Reply-To: <8CA80CBA6D06F54-D4C-4AF@webmail-nf18.sim.aol.com>
References: <c07.35b0c3ac.3556fcbf@aol.com>
	<8CA80CBA6D06F54-D4C-4AF@webmail-nf18.sim.aol.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0805100847120.3969@netserv.csus.edu>

Sorry, know this is now OT but it may preserve someone's bank
account so that they can still afford Roadster parts :-)

> I don't think you can take money out of someone's account just
> by having their account number? Otherwise every check you wrote to
> anyone is a risk.

Welcome to the 21st century.

With "Check 21", a recently new check processing paradigm, physical
checks no longer need to be exchanged with the bank. Thet's why if
you get your cancelled checks back from your bank (remember those
days?), you may be missing some even though they were still cashed.

Some stores now do a 'point of sale' debit when you write a check.
You hand them your check, thy zip it thru a reader and hand it right
back to you. Poof - money is out of your account, just like if you
had used your ATM card - but no card, no PIN.

Those numbers on the bottom of the check - the bank routing number
and your account number - is all that was needed.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu  Sacramento, CA

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Sat May 10 10:27:18 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 12:27:18 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT Bank Routing (was: Beware of parts requests)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0805100847120.3969@netserv.csus.edu>
References: <c07.35b0c3ac.3556fcbf@aol.com>
	<8CA80CBA6D06F54-D4C-4AF@webmail-nf18.sim.aol.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0805100847120.3969@netserv.csus.edu>
Message-ID: <003c01c8b2ba$bac73de0$3055b9a0$@net>

  John's correct.  My wife works for JP Morgan Chase and says all it takes
is the routing number on the bottom of the check and they can drain your
account.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of John F Sandhoff
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 11:58 AM
To: ljordan704 at netscape.net
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] OT Bank Routing (was: Beware of parts requests)

Sorry, know this is now OT but it may preserve someone's bank
account so that they can still afford Roadster parts :-)

> I don't think you can take money out of someone's account just
> by having their account number? Otherwise every check you wrote to
> anyone is a risk.

Welcome to the 21st century.

With "Check 21", a recently new check processing paradigm, physical
checks no longer need to be exchanged with the bank. Thet's why if
you get your cancelled checks back from your bank (remember those
days?), you may be missing some even though they were still cashed.

Some stores now do a 'point of sale' debit when you write a check.
You hand them your check, thy zip it thru a reader and hand it right
back to you. Poof - money is out of your account, just like if you
had used your ATM card - but no card, no PIN.

Those numbers on the bottom of the check - the bank routing number
and your account number - is all that was needed.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu  Sacramento, CA
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From tom at datsun2000.com  Sat May 10 11:07:17 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 10:07:17 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Beware of parts requests--pls read
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGGENBDEAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

Tim,

Thank you for the heads up.  Like you I am not comfortable with financial
transactions, domestic or international, that don't offer me the protection
of confirmed payment before I ship and item.  All of my eBay auctions offer
the option of making payment through PayPal, and I don't bid on an item
unless I can pay using PayPal, or pick it up locally with payment by cash.

We all learn a little more about possible scams now and then.  I have seen
at least one very tempting scam that looked and felt very real, but it came
from Russia.  A friend of mine advertised a room for rent in her home here
in Oregon on Craigslist and almost fell victim to a scam from a lady in the
UK.  Only the weird things she was being asked just before finalizing the
rental agreement moved her to talk to me about the financial deal before she
went ahead with receiving a deposit to be made with an excessively large
check and refunding part of the money back to her new boarder using Western
Union as the transfer agent.

In my reply to Holger's request I suggested he go to 311s.org and register
his car and look for vendors on 311s.org and datsun2000.com.  I also told
him Jon (NOWROC and roadster list member) is a roadster owner in Norway,
thinking they might like to get together and talk roadster now and then.

Now I guess I will have to add unknown roadster owners with similar requests
to my watch list.  New (and long-time sometimes) owners need our help, and
we should give it when we can, but I will add your experience to my watch
list and try to screen them before passing on any similar requests in the
future.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org


On 5/9/2008 7:27:23 PM, Tim (tputland at charter.net) wrote:
> I am sure I
> don't need to tell any one this but I am still going to.
>
> When Tom forwarded that part request that he had received, to this list,
it most likely was a scam. I am still seriously hoping it wasn't,
> but read on please.
>
> I
> don't know if any one else replied to that request for an SRL grill that
came from a "Holger" in Sweden, but I did, in an effort to "help out a
'fellow' Roadster owner".
>
> Like quite a lot of the rest of you, I have parts to sell to help finance
my addiction/obsesssssion/hobby/etc.
>
> I wondered if this person was too good to be true since the two grilles I
have are kind of rough and He/She(?) was very interested in one of them. I
named a (reasonable but profitable) price, it was accepted, without
hesitation, and we were working out payment details. I figured since this
person said they were in Sweden, that paypal was the best bet. This person
said they don't
> use paypal and told me all they needed was my name and bank account number
> and they would transfer the money to me. HELLOOOOO..ALARM BELLS AND ALL
> THAT STUFF. Anyway, I have not heard a word since I said that I
> don't give out bank info.
>
> Again, I know that I don't have to tell most,
> if any of you

From sportsix63 at yahoo.com  Sat May 10 19:06:43 2008
From: sportsix63 at yahoo.com (jim williams)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 18:06:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] OIl Filter Tubes
Message-ID: <754489.28597.qm@web32501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Are the drain back tubes needed?
If the filter has one is that good enough?
Or should the tube be left in place and source a
proper length filter?


  Jim Williams
  Lewisburg, West Virginia





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From graemes at internode.on.net  Sat May 10 19:39:55 2008
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 11:09:55 +0930
Subject: [Roadsters] OIl Filter Tubes
In-Reply-To: <754489.28597.qm@web32501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <754489.28597.qm@web32501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000601c8b307$ea637a30$236fa8c0@desktop>

1 "Are the drain back tubes needed?"
If you are using the original cartridge type filter, my answer is YES.
Without that tube the filter element will drain all its' oil on shutdown.
On startup the pump has to replenish that oil before the engine oil gallery
sees any.

2 "If the filter has one is that good enough?"
Spin-on filters can come equipped with an anti-drain back valve.
It does the same thing as the drain back tube BUT it is part of the spin-on
filter whereas the tube in 1 is a separate part to the cartridge filter.
 
3 "Or should the tube be left in place and source a proper length filter?"
>From that I assume you wish to retain the cartridge type filter but are
having difficulty getting the right length.
My advice is to retain the tube and the correct length filter.

Further to all this, there are a couple more parts that the cartridge filter
MUST have for it to work correctly.
Between the filter element and the outside casing, you need to have P/N 5,
6, 7, and 8.
5..SPRING-set, element
6..RETAINER-element
7.."O" RING-retainer
8..GASKET-Filter body top.
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8db31b3127ccea837b1ca88f900000025100Aa
uGjFq2bt2KA
Without 5,6 and 7, there is no way the filter actually works as intended.
The oil path is applied to both the inner and outer surfaces at the same
time, therefore totally ineffective!
Without 8, the cannister will leak.

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From stebharvey at ameritech.net  Sun May 11 05:27:40 2008
From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (steb)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 06:27:40 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Mississippi River Run
Message-ID: <000001c8b35a$06e37e60$0574fea9@steb1>

The date for the first Mississippi River Run will be July 26th and 27th.
We'll start in Milwaukee on Saturday morning (earlier the better) and be
picking up people as we move west toward Tim's house in Belleville, WI.
The roads from that point west are all twisties and tons of fun to
drive. Anyone who would like to join us should let me know asap so I can
make hotel reservations for the group.
 
Thanks
 
Steve Harvey
Milwaukee

From rabush2000 at hotmail.com  Sun May 11 07:36:01 2008
From: rabush2000 at hotmail.com (Richard Bush)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 17:36:01 +0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Mississippi River Run
In-Reply-To: <000001c8b35a$06e37e60$0574fea9@steb1>
Message-ID: <BAY129-DAV68251B36BC95B7866472BD2CD0@phx.gbl>

Greetings

Is anyone planning anything in the Austin Texas area this summer? If so,
please let me know.

I would like to join.

Best

Rick



On 11/5/08 15:27, "steb" <stebharvey at ameritech.net> wrote:

> The date for the first Mississippi River Run will be July 26th and 27th.
> We'll start in Milwaukee on Saturday morning (earlier the better) and be
> picking up people as we move west toward Tim's house in Belleville, WI.
> The roads from that point west are all twisties and tons of fun to
> drive. Anyone who would like to join us should let me know asap so I can
> make hotel reservations for the group.
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Steve Harvey
> Milwaukee
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From tputland at charter.net  Sun May 11 07:53:21 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 6:53:21 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Early style oil filters-- was Oil Filter Tubes
In-Reply-To: <000601c8b307$ea637a30$236fa8c0@desktop>
Message-ID: <20080511095321.Y88RX.297959.root@fepweb02>

Hi All.

I have a couple canister filters that came with a part car I picked up a couple years ago. As with most of the extra parts that I found, they were for earlier model Roadsters as opposed to the late model cars, which this part car is. 

My question  is this: Can someone send me a picture or point me to a picture of what these look like so I can make sure they are Roadster Filters before I sell them? Measurements would be welcome as well. 

TIA

PEACE :-)

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- Graeme <graemes at internode.on.net> wrote: 

=============
1 "Are the drain back tubes needed?"
If you are using the original cartridge type filter, my answer is YES.
Without that tube the filter element will drain all its' oil on shutdown.
On startup the pump has to replenish that oil before the engine oil gallery
sees any.

2 "If the filter has one is that good enough?"
Spin-on filters can come equipped with an anti-drain back valve.
It does the same thing as the drain back tube BUT it is part of the spin-on
filter whereas the tube in 1 is a separate part to the cartridge filter.
 
3 "Or should the tube be left in place and source a proper length filter?"
>From that I assume you wish to retain the cartridge type filter but are
having difficulty getting the right length.
My advice is to retain the tube and the correct length filter.

Further to all this, there are a couple more parts that the cartridge filter
MUST have for it to work correctly.
Between the filter element and the outside casing, you need to have P/N 5,
6, 7, and 8.
5..SPRING-set, element
6..RETAINER-element
7.."O" RING-retainer
8..GASKET-Filter body top.
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8db31b3127ccea837b1ca88f900000025100Aa
uGjFq2bt2KA
Without 5,6 and 7, there is no way the filter actually works as intended.
The oil path is applied to both the inner and outer surfaces at the same
time, therefore totally ineffective!
Without 8, the cannister will leak.

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From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Sun May 11 08:51:54 2008
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 07:51:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun - Can't figure it out
Message-ID: <959330.19495.qm@web51109.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

   I am hoping someone has seen the same symptoms.

   I completely rebuilt my engine, and had the carbs rebuilt. The
   distributor is new.

   I fired it up, and she ran. Wonderful.

   Over the past month, I tuned it as best as I could. It was running
   fine parked.

   Today, I took her out, and she ran very well, for about a mile, then
   she started acting up. First, she would not idle, then I had to keep
   the rpms above 2000 or she'd stall, but the time I got home, another
   mile later, she was barely running.

   Now she will not start. I can get her to kick over on starting fluid,
   she will sputter and even rev up for a moment, and then nothing I do
   with the throttle keeps he from reving right back down to a stall.

   She does have old gas, it is quite yellow. BUT when I removed the fuel
   line to the carbs, there is plenty of fuel flow from the gas pump. I
   do have the return line connected.

   I checked the points, fine. The distributor has not come loose. Vacuum
   lines are fine.

   The only thing I changed was to set the idle up a bit.

   The plugs look fine, except a bit sooty at the edges.

   I walked away from it, I just cannot figure it out. My next trick will
   be to use a separate gas can as a fuel source.

   Jim

From tom at datsun2000.com  Sun May 11 09:03:02 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 08:03:02 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun - Can't figure it out
Message-ID: <BBEDIFCDCKGJDOGMACDMMEBMCBAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

JIm,

Did you check the fuel filter?  It is not uncommon for gunk to come down the
fuel line from the tank, or inside of the line itself.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org



On 5/11/2008 7:51:54 AM, Jim Gammon (gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com) wrote:
> I am hoping someone has seen the same symptoms.
>
> I completely rebuilt my engine, and had the carbs rebuilt. The
> distributor is new.
>
> I fired it up, and she ran. Wonderful.
>
> Over the past month, I tuned it as best as I could. It was running
> fine parked.
>
> Today, I took her out, and she ran very well, for about a mile, then
> she started acting up. First, she would not idle, then I had to keep
> the rpms above 2000 or she'd stall, but the time I got home, another
> mile later, she was barely running.
>
> Now she will not start. I can get her to kick over on starting fluid,
> she will sputter and even rev up for a moment, and then nothing I do
> with the throttle keeps he from reving right back down to a stall.
>
> She does have old gas, it is quite yellow. BUT when I removed the fuel

From ron.young at cox.net  Sun May 11 09:14:04 2008
From: ron.young at cox.net (ron.young)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 08:14:04 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster at Doheny State Park 5/10/08
Message-ID: <20080511151427.WGBK10668.fed1rmmtao107.cox.net@fed1rmimpo03.cox.net>

I am one of the "lurkers" on the list.  Yesterday, I attended a Cystic
Fibrosis walk/fundraiser at Doheny State Park.  There was a beautiful silver
roadster with black top in the parking lot.  I didn't get a chance to get
real close to it.  I don't think it had any badges on the side (1600/2000).
Anyone know who this car belongs too?  Regardless, an outstanding example.
Thanks for bringing it!
 
Ron Young
Dana Point, CA

From bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com  Sun May 11 10:07:36 2008
From: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com (Brian Hollands)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 12:07:36 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun - Can't figure it out
In-Reply-To: <959330.19495.qm@web51109.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20080511160735.GWIZ4128.hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B>

If you've got fuel flow to the carbs - next check the float bowls.  On the
SU's, there are small screens inside the banjo fittings which can get
clogged.  The needle valves are also a potential suspect.
Weirdest one I've had was after replacing a fuel line...  I neglected to
blow the new line out with air before installing it.  It had some sort of
debris inside which ended up lodged in the short rubber fuel hose BETWEEN
the two float bowls.  Caused enough of a blockage that I'd get a
progressively worse - to the point of not running - misfire as the rear carb
slowly became fuel starved.
I'd check that line and the screens in the banjo fittings.
Good Luck

Brian
69 2000
Tampa FL


-----Original Message-----


   I completely rebuilt my engine, and had the carbs rebuilt. The
   distributor is new.

      Today, I took her out, and she ran very well, for about a mile, then
   she started acting up. First, she would not idle, then I had to keep
   the rpms above 2000 or she'd stall, but the time I got home, another
   mile later, she was barely running.


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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Sun May 11 10:14:57 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 12:14:57 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun - Can't figure it out
In-Reply-To: <959330.19495.qm@web51109.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <959330.19495.qm@web51109.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CA819944C61B42-344-1F99@webmail-nf12.sim.aol.com>

 See the 311 list for current same discussion
http://www.311s.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=52818#52818
Linda


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Gammon <gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com>
To: Datsun roadster <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, 11 May 2008 7:51 am
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun - Can't figure it out










   I am hoping someone has seen the same symptoms.

   I completely rebuilt my engine, and had the carbs rebuilt. The
   distributor is new.

   I fired it up, and she ran. Wonderful.

   Over the past month, I tuned it as best as I could. It was running
   fine parked.

   Today, I took her out, and she ran very well, for about a mile, then
   she started acting up. First, she would not idle, then I had to keep
   the rpms above 2000 or she'd stall, but the time I got home, another
   mile later, she was barely running.

   Now she will not start. I can get her to kick over on starting fluid,
   she will sputter and even rev up for a moment, and then nothing I do
   with the throttle keeps he from reving right back down to a stall.

   She does have old gas, it is quite yellow. BUT when I removed the fuel
   line to the carbs, there is plenty of fuel flow from the gas pump. I
   do have the return line connected.

   I checked the points, fine. The distributor has not come loose. Vacuum
   lines are fine.

   The only thing I changed was to set the idle up a bit.

   The plugs look fine, except a bit sooty at the edges.

   I walked away from it, I just cannot figure it out. My next trick will
   be to use a separate gas can as a fuel source.

   Jim
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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Sun May 11 10:27:28 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 12:27:28 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun - Can't figure it out
In-Reply-To: <959330.19495.qm@web51109.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <959330.19495.qm@web51109.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001501c8b383$e904e940$bb0ebbc0$@net>

Jim,

  You have fuel to the fuel line at the carbs, but that still may not mean
fuel into the carbs.  Are you aware that there are fuel screens on the banjo
bolts where the fuel enters the float chambers?  Check those, but don't be
surprised if you don't find any.  Many of the cars I've worked on don't have
them anymore.  I have the part number if you need it.  They were still
available a few years back from Nissan.
  Another thought, it may be your gas cap vent is clogged.  If air can't get
into the gas tank, the pump will eventually not be able to pull fuel up to
the carbs.  Try starting the car with the cap off.
  If that doesn't help, well you get what you pay for.  :-)  And give us
another shout so we can start thinking of other possible causes.

Paul
Ohio
  And old fuel never helps anything!

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Jim Gammon
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 10:52 AM
To: Datsun roadster
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun - Can't figure it out

   I am hoping someone has seen the same symptoms.

   I completely rebuilt my engine, and had the carbs rebuilt. The
   distributor is new.

   I fired it up, and she ran. Wonderful.

   Over the past month, I tuned it as best as I could. It was running
   fine parked.

   Today, I took her out, and she ran very well, for about a mile, then
   she started acting up. First, she would not idle, then I had to keep
   the rpms above 2000 or she'd stall, but the time I got home, another
   mile later, she was barely running.

   Now she will not start. I can get her to kick over on starting fluid,
   she will sputter and even rev up for a moment, and then nothing I do
   with the throttle keeps he from reving right back down to a stall.

   She does have old gas, it is quite yellow. BUT when I removed the fuel
   line to the carbs, there is plenty of fuel flow from the gas pump. I
   do have the return line connected.

   I checked the points, fine. The distributor has not come loose. Vacuum
   lines are fine.

   The only thing I changed was to set the idle up a bit.

   The plugs look fine, except a bit sooty at the edges.

   I walked away from it, I just cannot figure it out. My next trick will
   be to use a separate gas can as a fuel source.

   Jim

From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net  Sun May 11 10:57:11 2008
From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 09:57:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] After market gauges for late model roadster?
Message-ID: <721075.88404.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello,
   
     What is the correct size gauge that will fit the 2 larger opennings for our dash? It seems to be around 4 inches but many companies either sell 3 and 3/8inch or the 5 inch gauges. Is there a true 4 inch or so that will fit ours or are we dwelling into the custom zone? Would appreciate any inputs from those that have experience in this area. Thanks in advance.
     
            Tom

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Sun May 11 11:11:14 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 10:11:14 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] After market gauges for late model roadster?
In-Reply-To: <721075.88404.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <721075.88404.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY106-W4104E2DA4ABC8B58EF62A3DFCD0@phx.gbl>

Tom

The gauge body is a little over 4 inches, but more importantly it is the
bezel(that holds the glass) that makes the difference. At the front it is 3.8
inches sloping to a rear of 4.08.

HTH

Peter



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companies either sell 3 and 3/8inch or the 5 inch gauges. Is there a true 4
inch or so that will fit ours or are we dwelling into the custom zone? Would
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From fergus06 at socal.rr.com  Sun May 11 11:54:36 2008
From: fergus06 at socal.rr.com (Fergus OFarrell)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 10:54:36 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Primer, anyone tried PPG sx 1060 rollable?
Message-ID: <00cf01c8b390$14908fe0$e5bb1e18@fergus031a2176>

Greg wrote:
<<..They indicated that it is not an issue with these types of primers.  Sand
it clean,
wipe it down with grease/wax remover and shoot it... it will be fine.   >>

it's the "shoot it" part that is the challenge for me.  While I have access to
a small spray booth for the shoot in the future, it is 20-30 minute drive
away, so prepping smaller areas is fine except I cannot shoot them at home.

I saw this rollable primer PPG product on one of the restoration TV shows, has
anoyone used it or have any opinions on it?  (two part epoxy primer)

http://www.picksforpaint.com/products.asp

http://www.autobodycolor.com/content/view/31/9/

PPG's company website is so frustrating.  You have a product name / part
number, and their search cannot find it.  You have to go to other company's
website to get a link.  ARGH!

Fergus O

From Fairlady at putermail.net  Sun May 11 12:22:11 2008
From: Fairlady at putermail.net (Chas Willis)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 14:22:11 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun - Can't figure it out
In-Reply-To: <C6026D6FA7504B6E876D871A2B1E5441@putersolutions.local>
References: <959330.19495.qm@web51109.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<C6026D6FA7504B6E876D871A2B1E5441@putersolutions.local>
Message-ID: <001701c8b393$f7690b00$e63b2100$@net>

I'm no expert but I did run into a similar issue in the eighties with my
first 1600.
This could be a Vapor Lock.
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-vapor-lock.htm

Just a thought.
Chas

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+fairlady=putermail.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+fairlady=putermail.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 12:31 PM
To: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com; 'Datsun roadster'
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun - Can't figure it out

Jim,

  You have fuel to the fuel line at the carbs, but that still may not mean
fuel into the carbs.  Are you aware that there are fuel screens on the banjo
bolts where the fuel enters the float chambers?  Check those, but don't be
surprised if you don't find any.  Many of the cars I've worked on don't have
them anymore.  I have the part number if you need it.  They were still
available a few years back from Nissan.
  Another thought, it may be your gas cap vent is clogged.  If air can't get
into the gas tank, the pump will eventually not be able to pull fuel up to
the carbs.  Try starting the car with the cap off.
  If that doesn't help, well you get what you pay for.  :-)  And give us
another shout so we can start thinking of other possible causes.

Paul
Ohio
  And old fuel never helps anything!

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Jim Gammon
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 10:52 AM
To: Datsun roadster
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun - Can't figure it out

   I am hoping someone has seen the same symptoms.

   I completely rebuilt my engine, and had the carbs rebuilt. The
   distributor is new.

   I fired it up, and she ran. Wonderful.

   Over the past month, I tuned it as best as I could. It was running
   fine parked.

   Today, I took her out, and she ran very well, for about a mile, then
   she started acting up. First, she would not idle, then I had to keep
   the rpms above 2000 or she'd stall, but the time I got home, another
   mile later, she was barely running.

   Now she will not start. I can get her to kick over on starting fluid,
   she will sputter and even rev up for a moment, and then nothing I do
   with the throttle keeps he from reving right back down to a stall.

   She does have old gas, it is quite yellow. BUT when I removed the fuel
   line to the carbs, there is plenty of fuel flow from the gas pump. I
   do have the return line connected.

   I checked the points, fine. The distributor has not come loose. Vacuum
   lines are fine.

   The only thing I changed was to set the idle up a bit.

   The plugs look fine, except a bit sooty at the edges.

   I walked away from it, I just cannot figure it out. My next trick will
   be to use a separate gas can as a fuel source.

   Jim
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From d-solomon at comcast.net  Sun May 11 13:35:04 2008
From: d-solomon at comcast.net (Daniel Solomon)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 12:35:04 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] ROADSTER PARTS
Message-ID: <48274A68.7020500@comcast.net>

hey folks:
I've begun going through the parts, looking for items that people have 
asked me for.  in the meantime, i'll be throwing items up on Ebay.
So please see my auctions here:
http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZdansfam794z

and if you need anything, please shoot me an email.

thanks.
Dan

From aiken1315 at bellsouth.net  Sun May 11 13:53:47 2008
From: aiken1315 at bellsouth.net (aiken1315 at bellsouth.net)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 19:53:47 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Mississippi River Run
In-Reply-To: <C44CDF01.4347%rabush2000@hotmail.com>
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Message-ID: <051120081953.23949.48274ECB0005CAE200005D8D22218801869B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFCACECCCE020A05070E@att.net>

 I have to work in Austin the first three weeks of June and may drive the roadster from SC to TX.  If there is something planned for that time post it to the list.

Thanks
David
 -------------- Original message from Richard Bush <rabush2000 at hotmail.com>: --------------


> Greetings
> 
> Is anyone planning anything in the Austin Texas area this summer? If so,
> please let me know.
> 
> I would like to join.
> 
> Best
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/5/08 15:27, "steb"  wrote:
> 
> > The date for the first Mississippi River Run will be July 26th and 27th.
> > We'll start in Milwaukee on Saturday morning (earlier the better) and be
> > picking up people as we move west toward Tim's house in Belleville, WI.
> > The roads from that point west are all twisties and tons of fun to
> > drive. Anyone who would like to join us should let me know asap so I can
> > make hotel reservations for the group.
> >  
> > Thanks
> >  
> > Steve Harvey
> > Milwaukee
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From alvingogi at hotmail.com  Sun May 11 14:26:31 2008
From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 20:26:31 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] After market gauges for late model roadster?
In-Reply-To: <BAY106-W4104E2DA4ABC8B58EF62A3DFCD0@phx.gbl>
References: <721075.88404.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<BAY106-W4104E2DA4ABC8B58EF62A3DFCD0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU106-W6715E2C57BE3BA8F0FBC8B5CD0@phx.gbl>

Auto-Meter makes perfect gauges for high windsheild cars:
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2603302460103240641avSgFG

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2278729230103240641PJGpxN
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2304411610103240641xKZqkB




Alvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20> From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 10:11:14 -0700>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] After market gauges for late model roadster?> > Tom>
> The gauge body is a little over 4 inches, but more importantly it is the>
bezel(that holds the glass) that makes the difference. At the front it is 3.8>
inches sloping to a rear of 4.08.> > HTH> > Peter> > > > > Date: Sun, 11 May
2008 09:57:11 -0700> From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net> To:>
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] After market gauges for>
late model roadster?> > Hello,> > What is the correct size gauge that will
fit> the 2 larger opennings for our dash? It seems to be around 4 inches but
many> companies either sell 3 and 3/8inch or the 5 inch gauges. Is there a
true 4> inch or so that will fit ours or are we dwelling into the custom zone?
Would> appreciate any inputs from those that have experience in this area.
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From wilhouse at charter.net  Sun May 11 18:13:37 2008
From: wilhouse at charter.net (Ken & Tammy Williams)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 19:13:37 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Mississippi River Run
References: <000001c8b35a$06e37e60$0574fea9@steb1><C44CDF01.4347%rabush2000@hotmail.com>
	<051120081953.23949.48274ECB0005CAE200005D8D22218801869B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFCACECCCE020A05070E@att.net>
Message-ID: <000401c8b3c5$073d82a0$8555f018@wilhouse>

Hey Steve and all,
Count Tammy and I in for River Run '08.  Janesville is along the way, 
depending on which route you take to the river.
Maybe we can all meet somewhere for breakfast?
Ken Williams 

From alvingogi at hotmail.com  Sun May 11 18:38:45 2008
From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 00:38:45 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Sighting in San Jose
Message-ID: <BLU106-W168B06AF4340EF4488D9B0B5CC0@phx.gbl>

White low windsheild roadster on Saratoga Ave coming off 85N. Top down, man
and women inside. Lookin' good! We drove past each other.Alvin GogineniSan
Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20
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From geegc at aol.com  Mon May 12 09:31:23 2008
From: geegc at aol.com (geegc at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 11:31:23 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] foam filter for solex carbs
Message-ID: <8CA825C5E98497A-770-1A6@webmailbeta-m02.sysops.aol.com>

anyone have a source for the foam filter for the red plastic solex carbs air cleaner?? I see the entire assembly but not the filter alone.? Mine is deteriorating.

Gary C
2000 solex
1600

From jrdmf at aol.com  Mon May 12 10:42:45 2008
From: jrdmf at aol.com (jrdmf at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 12:42:45 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] foam filter for solex carbs
In-Reply-To: <8CA825C5E98497A-770-1A6@webmailbeta-m02.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CA825C5E98497A-770-1A6@webmailbeta-m02.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CA826656CA4D38-1210-E4C@webmail-nc19.sysops.aol.com>

I believe Stan Chernoff has those.

http://www.fairladyproducts.com/

310-320-4554

Jon Frampton
Huntington Beach


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Sent: Mon, 12 May 2008 8:31 am
Subject: [Roadsters] foam filter for solex carbs



anyone have a source for the foam filter for the red plastic solex carbs air 
cleaner?? I see the entire assembly but not the filter alone.? Mine is 
deteriorating.

Gary C
2000 solex
1600
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From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Mon May 12 10:47:21 2008
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 09:47:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] foam filter for solex carbs
Message-ID: <742331.28632.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

are you talking about the ITG filter?

i got mine from TWM.

steve
675MIZU


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Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 8:31:23 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] foam filter for solex carbs

anyone have a source for the foam filter for the red plastic solex carbs air cleaner?? I see the entire assembly but not the filter alone.? Mine is deteriorating.

Gary C
2000 solex
1600
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From robbieharrison at comcast.net  Mon May 12 11:56:23 2008
From: robbieharrison at comcast.net (Robbie Harrison)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 13:56:23 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Subject: [Roadsters] After market gauges for late model roadster?
References: <721075.88404.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<BAY106-W4104E2DA4ABC8B58EF62A3DFCD0@phx.gbl>
	<BLU106-W6715E2C57BE3BA8F0FBC8B5CD0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <482884C7.000001.05104@ROBBIE-PC>

Those look great. Do you recall which series/size they are? I looked at the
auto-meter site and they have 32 different series of guages, it was a bit
overwhelming

Robbie Harrison

-------Original Message-------

From: alvin gogineni
Date: 5/11/2008 4:29:44 PM
To: peter harrison;  datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] After market gauges for late model roadster?

Auto-Meter makes perfect gauges for high windsheild cars:
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2603302460103240641avSgFG

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2278729230103240641PJGpxN
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2304411610103240641xKZqkB




Alvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20> From: granvillecomputing at hotmail
com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 10:11:14 -0700>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] After market gauges for late model roadster?> >
Tom>
> The gauge body is a little over 4 inches, but more importantly it is the>
bezel(that holds the glass) that makes the difference. At the front it is 3
8>
inches sloping to a rear of 4.08.> > HTH> > Peter> > > > > Date: Sun, 11 May
2008 09:57:11 -0700> From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net> To:>
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] After market gauges
for>
late model roadster?> > Hello,> > What is the correct size gauge that will
fit> the 2 larger opennings for our dash? It seems to be around 4 inches but
many> companies either sell 3 and 3/8inch or the 5 inch gauges. Is there a
true 4> inch or so that will fit ours or are we dwelling into the custom
zone?
Would> appreciate any inputs from those that have experience in this area.
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From bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com  Mon May 12 13:00:57 2008
From: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com (bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 15:00:57 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] foam filter for solex carbs
Message-ID: <8640704.297701210618857927.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web02-z01>

Coast Fabrication (www.coastfab.com) is handling ITG now.  I believe Dean also has them.
Brian
69 2000
Tampa FL


> are you talking about the ITG filter?
> 
> i got mine from TWM.
> 
> steve
> 675MIZU

From slowboy at cox.net  Mon May 12 13:33:14 2008
From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 12:33:14 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Custom Grill
Message-ID: <001b01c8b467$059b3cb0$0301a8c0@m7170n>

I did a search for custom grill to see what I might like to do for the
roadster.

This link came up and it was not what I thought I would see. I had a cold
cringe.

http://www.mrbling.com/


Does anyone have a link for having a custom car grill made?

Thanks!

From tputland at charter.net  Mon May 12 13:57:25 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 12:57:25 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Custom Grill
In-Reply-To: <001b01c8b467$059b3cb0$0301a8c0@m7170n>
Message-ID: <20080512155725.0LVRA.356418.root@fepweb08>

Oh lord help us all.

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- SlowBoy <slowboy at cox.net> wrote: 

=============
I did a search for custom grill to see what I might like to do for the
roadster.

This link came up and it was not what I thought I would see. I had a cold
cringe.

http://www.mrbling.com/


Does anyone have a link for having a custom car grill made?

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From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Mon May 12 14:31:02 2008
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 13:31:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun - Can't figure it out
In-Reply-To: <001501c8b383$e904e940$bb0ebbc0$@net>
Message-ID: <251456.52488.qm@web51110.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

   Does anyone have a picture of the lower part of a SU carb on a 2000
   that shows the position of the knurled mixture knob with the mixture
   about right?

   I just want to have some faint idea of where it should be to start. I
   can adjust after that.

   Jim

From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Mon May 12 15:19:16 2008
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 14:19:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster for sale
Message-ID: <912905.71544.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

   I tripped over this on EBay. Looks like a good buy for someone who
   wants to get her running. He says it is for parts....

   JimG

   http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=270
   236457653&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=017

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Mon May 12 16:02:13 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 18:02:13 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun - Can't figure it out
In-Reply-To: <251456.52488.qm@web51110.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <001501c8b383$e904e940$bb0ebbc0$@net>
	<251456.52488.qm@web51110.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <009a01c8b47b$e339c410$a9ad4c30$@net>

Jim,

  Tunning tips at; 

http://www.jetlink.net/~okayfine/sutech.html

and,

http://members.aol.com/roadsterranch/su-setup/su-setup.html

Paul
Ohio

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Jim Gammon
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 4:31 PM
To: Datsun roadster
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun - Can't figure it out

   Does anyone have a picture of the lower part of a SU carb on a 2000
   that shows the position of the knurled mixture knob with the mixture
   about right?

   I just want to have some faint idea of where it should be to start. I
   can adjust after that.

   Jim

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Mon May 12 16:36:05 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 18:36:05 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun - Can't figure it out
Message-ID: <cfb.31e2985c.355a2055@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/12/2008 2:11:17 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com writes:

Does anyone have a picture of the lower part of a SU carb on a  2000
that shows the position of the knurled mixture knob with  the mixture
about right?

I just want to  have some faint idea of where it should be to start. I
can  adjust after that.

Jim



Jim,
 
    Turn it all the way in then out one turn. That  should be close.
 
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From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov  Mon May 12 16:48:49 2008
From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03))
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 17:48:49 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] foam filter for solex carbs
In-Reply-To: <8640704.297701210618857927.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web02-z01>
References: <8640704.297701210618857927.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web02-z01>
Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF769BAF57@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>

 Looking at the coast fab site - which one fits the Solex Roadster?  I
like the idea of getting the blank backing plate and cutting my own
holes.

Not too lazy to go out to the shop to measure - in DC this week and the
shop is 1000 miles away...

Phil
SEROC

-----Original Message-----
From:
datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team
.net] On Behalf Of bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 2:01 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] foam filter for solex carbs

Coast Fabrication (www.coastfab.com) is handling ITG now.  I believe
Dean also has them.
Brian
69 2000
Tampa FL


> are you talking about the ITG filter?
>
> i got mine from TWM.
>
> steve
> 675MIZU
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From bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com  Mon May 12 17:29:02 2008
From: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com (Brian Hollands)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 19:29:02 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT - Pop Quiz
Message-ID: <20080512232901.EOUZ25757.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B>

I must be getting old and my taste changing

On the back cover of the April 08 Classic and Sportscar (great UK car
mag) is an ad for hagerty insurance.  Its got one of the sexiest pre-war
cars in the ad that Ive ever seen.  I want to know what it is.

Pre-war is not my forte.

Anyone know?



Brian

69 2000

Tampa, FL




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From tputland at charter.net  Mon May 12 17:52:13 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 16:52:13 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster for sale
In-Reply-To: <912905.71544.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20080512195213.PBMJZ.441088.root@fepweb10>

Oh Lord please help me. 

These cars are to small to sleep in and if I buy this one I had better be able to.

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- Jim Gammon <gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com> wrote: 

=============
   I tripped over this on EBay. Looks like a good buy for someone who
   wants to get her running. He says it is for parts....

   JimG

   http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=270
   236457653&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=017
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From aultgc at att.net  Mon May 12 19:11:51 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 20:11:51 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Part request email from the other day?
References: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGMEMPDEAA.tom@datsun2000.com>
Message-ID: <001d01c8b496$53ab04b0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

Interesting.  The ... at siemens.com is a business E-mail -- a legitimate 
Siemens address, unless there's a way to fake a corporate address.  (I used 
to work for Siemens' KWU Group -- Unternehmensbereich KWU -- if I can still 
spell it correctly.)

Gary Ault

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" <tom at datsun2000.com>
To: "Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>; 
"Tputland at Charter. Net" <tputland at charter.net>
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Part request email from the other day?


> Tim,
>
> The request was sent to my by Holger, in Sweden.  Here is the note he sent
> to me.
>
> Tom
> Portland
> http://www.datsun2000.com
> http://www.nowroc.org
>
> ============
>
> Hi Tom,
> my name is Holger and I4m a Datsun SRL owner from Sweden, I need a grill 
> to
> my car, could you help me with that?
>
> holger.freundlich at siemens.com
>
> rgs
> Holger
>
> ================
>
> On 5/9/2008 7:41:46 AM, Tim (tputland at charter.net) wrote:
>> Who posted that SRL grill part request please?
>>
>> Contact me off list if you would be so kind.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Tim
>> Belleville, WI.
>> '70 SPL AND SRL
>> Still clueless but always learning
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From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 20:22:05 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] how hard can it be?????
References: <BAY106-W54ECC65AFFCCD9ED091ADDDFE40@phx.gbl>
	<000401c8b0ad$5ed1fcf0$8215a8c0@garage.local>
Message-ID: <004f01c8b497$c17b6510$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

Oliver,

If you're referring to the two U-shaped trim pieces with little "ears" at 
the top of the "U", they cover the upper joints between the side 
(windshield) frame members and the top member.  The little "ears" go under 
the weatherstrip which goes around the windshield glass.

If that is not sufficient explanation, I can take a couple of pictures of 
mine and send to you off-list.

If you're talking about something else, I'm baffled.

Still high from Solvang...(nothing to do with chemicals)

Gary Ault

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Oliver" <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
To: "datsun" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 8:46 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] how hard can it be?????


> take the windshield off, take it apart, get it rechromed, and put it back
> together.  no problem, right?
>
> aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh
>
> the frame is more or less self explanatory (i've got that), but those two
> angular brackets - how do they go on?  can someone help me, maybe
> pictures?????  and no, of the zillions i took, not one of the windshield.
> not even one!!!!!
>
> early 67 low windshield 1600
>
> thanks!!!!!
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From aultgc at att.net  Mon May 12 19:22:36 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 20:22:36 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Was Mitty Bad News: Now Mitsubushi alternator
References: <20080507.122810.21976.0@webmail23.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <005701c8b497$d3c60310$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

My '69 U20, also.

Gary Ault

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <hallosb at juno.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Was Mitty Bad News: Now Mitsubushi alternator


> Stock alternator on my '66 is Mitsubishi.
> Dan McHatton
> '66 1600
> -----------------------------------------
> The alternator on the car is made by Mitsubishi.  Is that stock????
>
> Phil
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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Mon May 12 20:39:54 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 22:39:54 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Custom Grill
In-Reply-To: <001b01c8b467$059b3cb0$0301a8c0@m7170n>
Message-ID: <000001c8b4a2$a2afa1e0$6800a8c0@delled48909442>

Well, If you have a low windshield, It'll keep the bugs from sticking to
your teeth.  Do they make them in Carbon Fiber?


-----Original Message-----
From: SlowBoy [mailto:slowboy at cox.net] 
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 3:33 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Custom Grill

I did a search for custom grill to see what I might like to do for the
roadster.

This link came up and it was not what I thought I would see. I had a
cold
cringe.

http://www.mrbling.com/


Does anyone have a link for having a custom car grill made?

Thanks!

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Mon May 12 20:43:25 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 22:43:25 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster for sale
In-Reply-To: <912905.71544.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000101c8b4a3$1f5f3020$6800a8c0@delled48909442>

Saves a fortune on listing fees, for parts and buy it now.  Fixed price
listings are $0.50 this week.

Looks well worth it if the body is good under the paint.

Dave Brisco
ECR
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Gammon [mailto:gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 5:19 PM
To: Datsun roadster
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster for sale

   I tripped over this on EBay. Looks like a good buy for someone who
   wants to get her running. He says it is for parts....

   JimG

 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=270
   236457653&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=017

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Mon May 12 20:46:21 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 22:46:21 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun - Can't figure it out
In-Reply-To: <cfb.31e2985c.355a2055@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000201c8b4a3$880fb9a0$6800a8c0@delled48909442>

Only thing I would add is if you can't get a decent idle, make sure the
float height is good and the step on the jet is flush with the piston.  

Dave Brisco
ECR

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith0alan at aol.com [mailto:Keith0alan at aol.com] 
 
In a message dated 5/12/2008 2:11:17 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com writes:

Does anyone have a picture of the lower part of a SU carb on a  2000
that shows the position of the knurled mixture knob with  the mixture
about right?

I just want to  have some faint idea of where it should be to start. I
can  adjust after that.

Jim



Jim,
 
    Turn it all the way in then out one turn. That  should be close.
 
keith

From stebharvey at ameritech.net  Tue May 13 04:48:04 2008
From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (steb)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 05:48:04 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 center grill
Message-ID: <001201c8b4e6$d3319960$0574fea9@steb1>

The stainless steel piece that goes across the back piece of my 2000
grill is so bent and dented that I cant straighten it out. Does anyone
have that piece for sale? I have the D part. If I cant find one for a
reasonable price I plan on making one from 3/8  and < square aluminum.

Steve

From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Tue May 13 10:10:05 2008
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (nmleeds at mindspring.com)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 09:10:05 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [Roadsters] sway bar towers - keeping them straight
Message-ID: <29086630.1210695005471.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I let my 16 year old sister drive the my Datsun. She has trouble with boys and I thought that wereas the Datsun's not noticed among professional aged women I thought it might really do the trick with teenage boys. Someone in our family should do some cruising.

Well, cruise she did. After taking it to school, dusting a couple of cars in the teacher's parking lot, and getting it away before the school administrators could "make" (her word) her she went out to the county and drove it fast over some railway crossings.

At some point in her escapades the sway bar towers got hit and bent back. I'd noticed they been hit before an there was some frame bending behind them even before sis got in the car. Although I'd like to blame her I think that she's not the first person to hit the towers. 

We bent the towers back. But since I also want buzz the teacher's parking lot and scream acround the countryside I'm concerned that this might happen again. Also sis clocks in at 110 lbs, I'm 210 lbs, and my fiance weighs a lot more than my sister's non-existant boy friend (0 lbs), or scowling best friend (95 lbs).

Nathaniel Leeds
'69 2000

From vze2fhba at verizon.net  Tue May 13 12:23:39 2008
From: vze2fhba at verizon.net (vze2fhba at verizon.net)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 13:23:39 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] sway bar towers - keeping them straight
Message-ID: <24437004.6987451210703020072.JavaMail.root@vms061.mailsrvcs.net>

If you want to buzz the teacers parking lot, competing with your sister
You might be a redneck

If the sway bar towers on your Datsun Roadster get bent back from launching over rail road tracks and it is a common occurence
You might be a redneck

Thanks Jeff Foxworthy


>From: nmleeds at mindspring.com
>Date: 2008/05/13 Tue AM 11:10:05 CDT
>To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>Subject: [Roadsters] sway bar towers - keeping them straight

>I let my 16 year old sister drive the my Datsun. She has trouble with boys and I thought that wereas the Datsun's not noticed among professional aged women I thought it might really do the trick with teenage boys. Someone in our family should do some cruising.
>
>Well, cruise she did. After taking it to school, dusting a couple of cars in the teacher's parking lot, and getting it away before the school administrators could "make" (her word) her she went out to the county and drove it fast over some railway crossings.
>
>At some point in her escapades the sway bar towers got hit and bent back. I'd noticed they been hit before an there was some frame bending behind them even before sis got in the car. Although I'd like to blame her I think that she's not the first person to hit the towers. 
>
>We bent the towers back. But since I also want buzz the teacher's parking lot and scream acround the countryside I'm concerned that this might happen again. Also sis clocks in at 110 lbs, I'm 210 lbs, and my fiance weighs a lot more than my sister's non-existant boy friend (0 lbs), or scowling best friend (95 lbs).
>
>Nathaniel Leeds
>'69 2000

From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Tue May 13 12:30:19 2008
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (nmleeds at mindspring.com)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 11:30:19 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [Roadsters] sway bar towers - keeping them straight
Message-ID: <27113235.1210703419488.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Or wish I was. Actually a 32 year old attorney. But redneck at heart.

N

-----Original Message-----
>From: vze2fhba at verizon.net
>Sent: May 13, 2008 11:23 AM
>To: nmleeds at mindspring.com, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Roadsters] sway bar towers - keeping them straight
>
>If you want to buzz the teacers parking lot, competing with your sister
>You might be a redneck
>
>If the sway bar towers on your Datsun Roadster get bent back from launching over rail road tracks and it is a common occurence
>You might be a redneck
>
>Thanks Jeff Foxworthy
>
>
>>From: nmleeds at mindspring.com
>>Date: 2008/05/13 Tue AM 11:10:05 CDT
>>To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>>Subject: [Roadsters] sway bar towers - keeping them straight
>
>>I let my 16 year old sister drive the my Datsun. She has trouble with boys and I thought that wereas the Datsun's not noticed among professional aged women I thought it might really do the trick with teenage boys. Someone in our family should do some cruising.
>>
>>Well, cruise she did. After taking it to school, dusting a couple of cars in the teacher's parking lot, and getting it away before the school administrators could "make" (her word) her she went out to the county and drove it fast over some railway crossings.
>>
>>At some point in her escapades the sway bar towers got hit and bent back. I'd noticed they been hit before an there was some frame bending behind them even before sis got in the car. Although I'd like to blame her I think that she's not the first person to hit the towers. 
>>
>>We bent the towers back. But since I also want buzz the teacher's parking lot and scream acround the countryside I'm concerned that this might happen again. Also sis clocks in at 110 lbs, I'm 210 lbs, and my fiance weighs a lot more than my sister's non-existant boy friend (0 lbs), or scowling best friend (95 lbs).
>>
>>Nathaniel Leeds
>>'69 2000

From msedlack at neo.rr.com  Tue May 13 12:59:54 2008
From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 14:59:54 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] sway bar towers - keeping them straight
References: <29086630.1210695005471.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <002b01c8b52b$8829a170$6501a8c0@p53ghzduo>

Nathaniel,

Here's a link to a pic of what I did on the "R" (an idea I freely admit to 
swiping from Graeme / Nissanman  down-under)

http://www.mildevco.net/sway_bar_tower_plates.jpg

A couple of 1/8" plates welded to the side of the frame and towers to 
triangulate them - I just drilled some holes in the plates and did MIG plug 
welds.

Might not stand up to jumping railroad tracks, but would reinforce already 
weakened towers......

Mark Sedlack
ZROC
Cuyahoga Falls OH
66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <nmleeds at mindspring.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 12:10 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] sway bar towers - keeping them straight


>I let my 16 year old sister drive the my Datsun. She has trouble with boys 
>and I thought that wereas the Datsun's not noticed among professional aged 
>women I thought it might really do the trick with teenage boys. Someone in 
>our family should do some cruising.
>
> Well, cruise she did. After taking it to school, dusting a couple of cars 
> in the teacher's parking lot, and getting it away before the school 
> administrators could "make" (her word) her she went out to the county and 
> drove it fast over some railway crossings.
>
> At some point in her escapades the sway bar towers got hit and bent back. 
> I'd noticed they been hit before an there was some frame bending behind 
> them even before sis got in the car. Although I'd like to blame her I 
> think that she's not the first person to hit the towers.
>
> We bent the towers back. But since I also want buzz the teacher's parking 
> lot and scream acround the countryside I'm concerned that this might 
> happen again. Also sis clocks in at 110 lbs, I'm 210 lbs, and my fiance 
> weighs a lot more than my sister's non-existant boy friend (0 lbs), or 
> scowling best friend (95 lbs).
>
> Nathaniel Leeds
> '69 2000

From sandhoff at csus.edu  Tue May 13 14:35:16 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 13:35:16 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Fraudster email address (was: Part request email
 from the other day?)
In-Reply-To: <001d01c8b496$53ab04b0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <48299914.25845.FD04F3@localhost>

Just more OT chatter to keep people aware of how fraudsters work...

> The ... at siemens.com is a business E-mail -- a legitimate Siemens
> address, unless there's a way to fake a corporate address.

Faking an address - not so easy (possible, but unlikely).
STOLEN email address - almost definitely. I bet the real
Mr. Freundlich of Siemens had no idea that his email had been
hijacked and was being used to give an air of authenticity to some
scamming action. He possibly still doesn't know.

Credit card numbers, SSN's, bank routing numbers, brokerage
credentials, ebay accounts, email addresses - they're all bought and
sold (for surprisingly little, as there's such a glut of stolen data out
there). What possible use is there for a stolen email address? Well,
now you know...

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From gwnguy at mts.net  Tue May 13 15:13:50 2008
From: gwnguy at mts.net (Rob Simmons)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 16:13:50 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 roadster head
Message-ID: <E96FB6DE-16F0-44D2-B3B0-A39138F4877A@mts.net>

I have several heads for 2000's.  Does anyone have any idea what I  
should ask for them.  (assuming they are in good condition)?  One is  
complete and has all the bits, one is bare, and one is missing the  
valves.  Please respond off list?

Thanks in advance
Rob

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Tue May 13 15:37:40 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 17:37:40 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] sway bar towers - keeping them straight
In-Reply-To: <29086630.1210695005471.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <E1Jw2Bd-0001nw-Hq@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Wow that brings back memories! I haven't jumped railroad tracks since the
early 80's! I'm ITCHING to do it again now! It's not going to happen in my
Roadster, but maybe I'll have to get a rental car this weekend. As the other
Jeff Foxworthy said... pay for the extra insurance. Because that Ford Fiesta
is going to see more airtime than a skateboarder at the X Games!

My former "jump-mobile" was a hot rodded 64 Chevy 1/2 ton long bed pickup
with a big block (my first car... Thanks Mom!) Some of you Southern
California folks may even know this place. Simi Valley, going down Sycamore,
hitting the tracks at about 80 will land you 3/4 of the way across L.A.
Avenue!!! HAHAHAHAHA! 15 feet of air and about a 60 foot jump. Eventually
the frame broke but OH MY GOD it was fun!
Matt "redneck" Smith

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of nmleeds at mindspring.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 12:10 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] sway bar towers - keeping them straight

I let my 16 year old sister drive the my Datsun. She has trouble with boys
and I thought that wereas the Datsun's not noticed among professional aged
women I thought it might really do the trick with teenage boys. Someone in
our family should do some cruising.

Well, cruise she did. After taking it to school, dusting a couple of cars in
the teacher's parking lot, and getting it away before the school
administrators could "make" (her word) her she went out to the county and
drove it fast over some railway crossings.

At some point in her escapades the sway bar towers got hit and bent back.
I'd noticed they been hit before an there was some frame bending behind them
even before sis got in the car. Although I'd like to blame her I think that
she's not the first person to hit the towers. 

We bent the towers back. But since I also want buzz the teacher's parking
lot and scream acround the countryside I'm concerned that this might happen
again. Also sis clocks in at 110 lbs, I'm 210 lbs, and my fiance weighs a
lot more than my sister's non-existant boy friend (0 lbs), or scowling best
friend (95 lbs).

Nathaniel Leeds
'69 2000
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From fergus06 at socal.rr.com  Tue May 13 18:36:31 2008
From: fergus06 at socal.rr.com (Fergus OFarrell)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 17:36:31 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: dedicated "one-off"
Message-ID: <004601c8b55a$8ed55990$e5bb1e18@fergus031a2176>

not for everyone (I am too big) but nice job, and I like the "easy access"

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mini-Cooper-Special-mid-engine-carbon-shell-Ki
mini_W0QQitemZ120260777875QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6126QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmd
ZViewItem

From alvingogi at hotmail.com  Tue May 13 19:01:49 2008
From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 01:01:49 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: dedicated "one-off"
In-Reply-To: <004601c8b55a$8ed55990$e5bb1e18@fergus031a2176>
References: <004601c8b55a$8ed55990$e5bb1e18@fergus031a2176>
Message-ID: <BLU106-W28A85299CF4C20541488D8B5CE0@phx.gbl>

This little beastie was at the Coronodo Speed Festival last year...here is an
engine shot I took:

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2806553050102308741TDCnyIAlvin GogineniSan
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From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Tue May 13 20:15:01 2008
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 19:15:01 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Fraudster email address (was: Part request
 email from the other day?)
References: <48299914.25845.FD04F3@localhost>
Message-ID: <000801c8b568$516af750$6500a8c0@Daryl>

I was rather surprised a couple of weeks ago when I got a spam email 
from....myself!!
I don't know how they did it, or how I can prevent it in the future, but I 
did some thorough scans, and bought
this "Alpha Shield"  ( http://www.alphashield.com/ ) on sale at the local 
computer shop, just for insurance....

Daryl


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John F Sandhoff" <sandhoff at csus.edu>
To: "Gary and Cindy Ault" <aultgc at att.net>
Cc: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 1:35 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Fraudster email address (was: Part request email 
from the other day?)


> Just more OT chatter to keep people aware of how fraudsters work...
>
>> The ... at siemens.com is a business E-mail -- a legitimate Siemens
>> address, unless there's a way to fake a corporate address.
>
> Faking an address - not so easy (possible, but unlikely).
> STOLEN email address - almost definitely. I bet the real
> Mr. Freundlich of Siemens had no idea that his email had been
> hijacked and was being used to give an air of authenticity to some
> scamming action. He possibly still doesn't know.
>
> Credit card numbers, SSN's, bank routing numbers, brokerage
> credentials, ebay accounts, email addresses - they're all bought and
> sold (for surprisingly little, as there's such a glut of stolen data out
> there). What possible use is there for a stolen email address? Well,
> now you know...
>
> -- John
>     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Tue May 13 20:17:44 2008
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 19:17:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] I got it! (but you guys figured it out)
Message-ID: <13480.20711.qm@web51111.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

   Little red is up and runing. I still need to fine tune, but she runs.

   The initial setting for the carbs I tried was 1 and a quarter turns
   out/down.

   I think this will prove to be a bit rich, but I have other fish to fry
   before I get to that. I have an oil leak, hopefully just a loose
   distributor oiler line. I'd hate to think I screwded up the rear main
   seal.... It was the first one I ever put in.

   But she runs, she idles after a fashion, but I didn't get her fully
   warmed up. I did discover my timing was about 10 degrees too high as
   well. Stupid me.

   I plan to see about the leak next.

   Thanks EVERONE! This is a great example of the value of this list.

   Kudos!

   JimG in NJ

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Tue May 13 20:46:50 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 22:46:50 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] sway bar towers - keeping them straight
In-Reply-To: <27113235.1210703419488.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <001201c8b56c$c3eb1cc0$6800a8c0@delled48909442>

If she keeps this up, a brother who is a lawyer might be handy.

Dave Brisco
ECR

-----Original Message-----
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com [mailto:nmleeds at mindspring.com] 


Or wish I was. Actually a 32 year old attorney. But redneck at heart.

N

-----Original Message-----
>From: vze2fhba at verizon.net
>
>If you want to buzz the teacers parking lot, competing with your sister
>You might be a redneck
>
>If the sway bar towers on your Datsun Roadster get bent back from
launching over rail road tracks and it is a common occurence
>You might be a redneck
>
>Thanks Jeff Foxworthy

From graemes at internode.on.net  Tue May 13 21:14:22 2008
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 12:44:22 +0930
Subject: [Roadsters] sway bar towers - keeping them straight
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Here are few more pics. of what I did to those towers.
I must say that mine haven't been subject to the "railway track test" yet
either, so.....

"Might not stand up to jumping railroad tracks, but would reinforce already
weakened towers......"


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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Tue May 13 23:13:22 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 22:13:22 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Fraudster email address (was: Part request
 email from the other day?)
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If you're into programming, you can create an email with any return address
you want, including the recipient's. Makes it tough to block.

There are plenty of places they can "harvest" email addresses. If you have a
Web site with email links to yourself, if they hack someone's machine who
has exchanged email with you and you are in their Address file, etc.

Or sometimes, if you have a Web site, they will build a fake name, append it
to your domain name and use that. I've gotten junk mail addressed to all
kinds of names @gordon-glasgow.org.

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Daryl Smith
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 7:15 PM
To: John F Sandhoff; Gary and Cindy Ault
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Fraudster email address (was: Part request
email from the other day?)

I was rather surprised a couple of weeks ago when I got a spam email 
from....myself!!
I don't know how they did it, or how I can prevent it in the future, but I 
did some thorough scans, and bought
this "Alpha Shield"  ( http://www.alphashield.com/ ) on sale at the local 
computer shop, just for insurance....

Daryl


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John F Sandhoff" <sandhoff at csus.edu>
To: "Gary and Cindy Ault" <aultgc at att.net>
Cc: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 1:35 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Fraudster email address (was: Part request email 
from the other day?)


> Just more OT chatter to keep people aware of how fraudsters work...
>
>> The ... at siemens.com is a business E-mail -- a legitimate Siemens
>> address, unless there's a way to fake a corporate address.
>
> Faking an address - not so easy (possible, but unlikely).
> STOLEN email address - almost definitely. I bet the real
> Mr. Freundlich of Siemens had no idea that his email had been
> hijacked and was being used to give an air of authenticity to some
> scamming action. He possibly still doesn't know.
>
> Credit card numbers, SSN's, bank routing numbers, brokerage
> credentials, ebay accounts, email addresses - they're all bought and
> sold (for surprisingly little, as there's such a glut of stolen data out
> there). What possible use is there for a stolen email address? Well,
> now you know...
>
> -- John
>     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Wed May 14 02:01:39 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 01:01:39 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] sway bar towers - keeping them straight
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Just as a reminder to the list - or at least a reminder to me - it appears
that we can only attach links - not actual documents - which is why i presume
i cannot see what graeme has offered.
Such is life and such is the way our list is organised - just because -  and
that is what is so.
Peter



> From: graemes at internode.on.net> To: nmleeds at mindspring.com;
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 12:44:22 +0930>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] sway bar towers - keeping them straight> > Here are
few more pics. of what I did to those towers.> I must say that mine haven't
been subject to the "railway track test" yet> either, so.....> > "Might not
stand up to jumping railroad tracks, but would reinforce already> weakened
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From graemes at internode.on.net  Wed May 14 02:28:24 2008
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 17:58:24 +0930
Subject: [Roadsters] sway bar towers - keeping them straight
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Tis' true Peter.
I usually provide a link to the List when I send pics. to an individual.
However since the Sony Imagestation closed, the new site I use, Shutterfly,
doesn't work that way "- just because - and that is what is so."
So, by way of apology you can click on this link,
HYPERLINK
"http://nissanman.shutterfly.com/action/pictures;jsessionid=9DD74A4037C7040F
DFFE79838559BE0C?a=67b0de21b340c179e443"http://nissanman.shutterfly.com/acti
on/pictures;jsessionid=9DD74A4037C7040FDFFE79838559BE0C?a=67b0de21b340c179e4
43HYPERLINK "http://nissanman.shutterfly.com/action/"HYPERLINK
"http://www.imagestation.com/members/Nissanman"
and then go to pics. #46 - #56.
How clumsy is THAT!
If the individual images came up with a valid file name in their location
[e.g. filename.jpg] then life would be a LOT simpler!
I'm open to suggestions.
So, in the immortal words of the about to be executed Ned Kelly, [he was
well hung] Oz Bushranger/Terrorist/Irish victim of racial prejudice,
depending on your view of him, "Such is life!"
Regards,
Graeme Suckling
1965 SP310 Datsun Sports
1971 P510 Datsun 1600
1972 PL510 Datsun 1600 LHD
1973 HS30 Datsun 240Z
1984 B120 Datsun 1200 utility
1993 ECR33 Skyline GTS25t
HYPERLINK
"http://nissanman.shutterfly.com/action/"http://nissanman.shutterfly.com/act
ion/HYPERLINK "http://www.imagestation.com/members/Nissanman"
Adelaide
South Australia

   _____  

From: peter harrison [mailto:granvillecomputing at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 14 May 2008 5:32 PM
To: Graeme; nmleeds at mindspring.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] sway bar towers - keeping them straight


Just as a reminder to the list - or at least a reminder to me - it appears
that we can only attach links - not actual documents - which is why i
presume i cannot see what graeme has offered.
Such is life and such is the way our list is organised - just because -  and
that is what is so.
Peter



 


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From gerardomagana at sbcglobal.net  Wed May 14 10:44:31 2008
From: gerardomagana at sbcglobal.net (Gerardo Magana)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 09:44:31 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] SROC club pics, trip to Fukui
Message-ID: <6D677953D5EF4CB1BAF3C83EA1D12C27@GERARDO3RX9F01>

Hello all, Once again My friend Takeshi has sent me pictures of their most
recent trip, Looks like spring is top down weather in Japan, some real nice
pictures of the cars and members at ths link:
http://fairladyparts.com/sroc.html
Later, Gerardo

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Wed May 14 11:14:36 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 10:14:36 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country - YouTube link
Message-ID: <BAY106-W247B213E4B75275D4B11E7DFCE0@phx.gbl>

Just to make it easier - didn't realise one could do this until today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCgyGVsut5o

Peter

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Wed May 14 11:40:31 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 13:40:31 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country - YouTube link
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Message-ID: <8CA8400BC78EDBA-17CC-3B1@webmail-nd14.sysops.aol.com>

 Very nice little promo for a Datsun RoadsterLOL.
?Looked at your other YouTube videos and see you even gave credit to me for helping clean off some grime on the engine during the 5 speed swap!
?Movie credit for my walk-on part, Wow! 
Linda
68 1600


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: peter harrison <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>
To: datsun <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, 14 May 2008 10:14 am
Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country - YouTube link










Just to make it easier - didn't realise one could do this until today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCgyGVsut5o

Peter
________________________________________

From etroxel at gmail.com  Wed May 14 12:11:44 2008
From: etroxel at gmail.com (Evan Troxel)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:11:44 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] flat dash in 69 car
Message-ID: <CA6F6F2F-DC1C-4AFC-ACE8-FCE9441080A6@gmail.com>

does anyone have pics/suggestions for swapping a flat dash from a '66  
into a '69? i've heard some people have done it but would like to know  
what's involved. i'm thinking about doing it... but haven't decided  
fully.

thanks,

evan

From etroxel at gmail.com  Wed May 14 13:03:37 2008
From: etroxel at gmail.com (evan troxel)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 12:03:37 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] flat dash in 69 car
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This is exactly why i want to do this. plus, since i'm doing an sr20
conversion, i want to use the flat dash as a blank slate for a new gauge
layout possibly.

--evan

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:22 AM, peter harrison <
granvillecomputing at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Evan
> I understand that this is not a trivial matter - though achievable - and
> indeed, the flat dash is a much better looking setup than the original - not
> to mention, it is easier to fix when (and if) it cracks - the 70 dash is
> about $750+ and as I have recently discovered a real pain to remove and
> replace.
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> > From: etroxel at gmail.com
> > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> > Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:11:44 -0700
> > Subject: [Roadsters] flat dash in 69 car
>
> >
> > does anyone have pics/suggestions for swapping a flat dash from a '66
> > into a '69? i've heard some people have done it but would like to know
> > what's involved. i'm thinking about doing it... but haven't decided
> > fully.
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > evan
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From hallosb at juno.com  Wed May 14 13:38:22 2008
From: hallosb at juno.com (hallosb at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 19:38:22 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] SROC club pics, trip to Fukui
Message-ID: <20080514.123822.29267.0@webmail24.vgs.untd.com>

Wow!  Lots more left hand drive cars than I expected.  Cool pics!!
--------------------------------------
Hello all, Once again My friend Takeshi has sent me pictures of their most
recent trip, Looks like spring is top down weather in Japan, some real nice
pictures of the cars and members at ths link:
http://fairladyparts.com/sroc.html
Later, Gerardo


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From tputland at charter.net  Wed May 14 13:46:19 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 15:46:19 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] SROC club pics, trip to Fukui
In-Reply-To: <20080514.123822.29267.0@webmail24.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <20080514154619.90HBX.739002.root@fepweb12>

yea, isn't that wild. I never would have imagined that they would have so many lefty cars over there. I wonder if it is Datsun specific, old cars in general, or across the board?

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

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Wow!  Lots more left hand drive cars than I expected.  Cool pics!!
--------------------------------------
Hello all, Once again My friend Takeshi has sent me pictures of their most
recent trip, Looks like spring is top down weather in Japan, some real nice
pictures of the cars and members at ths link:
http://fairladyparts.com/sroc.html
Later, Gerardo


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From michaelspreadbury at comcast.net  Wed May 14 15:29:07 2008
From: michaelspreadbury at comcast.net (michaelspreadbury at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 21:29:07 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] LHD Datsuns in Japan
Message-ID: <051420082129.12260.482B59A3000BE2D900002FE42206998499979D9A0D0B0E0A9D9F9C040A0E080C0703@comcast.net>

Lots of LHD Datsun roadsters were exported out of North America back to Japan in the early 90s when the Yen was strong and the nostalgic car craze was going strong in Japan. LHD Datsuns (be it a 240Z, 510, or Roadster) can often be found for sale in Japan, usually for much less than their RHD cousins. 

Michael 


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "hallosb at juno.com" <hallosb at juno.com>
> Wow!  Lots more left hand drive cars than I expected.  Cool pics!!

From alvingogi at hotmail.com  Wed May 14 17:25:07 2008
From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 23:25:07 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] flat dash in 69 car
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Message-ID: <BLU106-W13E18DB6CEC4E2D2584AF8B5CE0@phx.gbl>

Here is Mike Braaten's high windsheild with a flat dash...Craig Hooper also
has one. Go to 311s.org and search for flat dash swap for install info:

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2445100010091305389gdDiJv
Alvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20> From: etroxel at gmail.com> To:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:11:44 -0700>
Subject: [Roadsters] flat dash in 69 car> > does anyone have pics/suggestions
for swapping a flat dash from a '66 > into a '69? i've heard some people have
done it but would like to know > what's involved. i'm thinking about doing
it... but haven't decided > fully.> > thanks,> > evan>
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From stebharvey at ameritech.net  Wed May 14 19:24:55 2008
From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (steb)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 20:24:55 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch question
Message-ID: <000001c8b62a$7ca021d0$0574fea9@steb1>

Got the Datsun running yesterday thinking that we most likely won't get
anymore snow here in Wisconsin? When I tried to engage the clutch I had
no pedal action at all.
I drained all of the old fluid from the system and used an air hose to
blow out the lines. I install the bleed screws, filled the system but
wasn't able to get any fluid into the system for bleeding. I noticed
that the actuator on the firewall doesn't have a bleed screw on it as
opposed to the brake system which does have bleed screws. There is a
plug installed on the bottom of the actuator however. What is this plug
used for? Any hints on what I'm doing wrong are appreciated. 
 
Steve  

From escanlon at wa-net.com  Wed May 14 19:52:30 2008
From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 18:52:30 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch question
References: <000001c8b62a$7ca021d0$0574fea9@steb1>
Message-ID: <003a01c8b62e$56aba720$0300a8c0@HPW>

You may have a stuck plunger in the master.  Have someone step on the clutch 
repeatedly while you gently but firmly tap on the sides and end of the 
master.  If it is indeed a stuck plunger it should free it up and then 
operate normally.

HTH
E


> Got the Datsun running yesterday thinking that we most likely won't get
> anymore snow here in Wisconsin? When I tried to engage the clutch I had
> no pedal action at all.
> I drained all of the old fluid from the system and used an air hose to
> blow out the lines. I install the bleed screws, filled the system but
> wasn't able to get any fluid into the system for bleeding. I noticed
> that the actuator on the firewall doesn't have a bleed screw on it as
> opposed to the brake system which does have bleed screws. There is a
> plug installed on the bottom of the actuator however. What is this plug
> used for? Any hints on what I'm doing wrong are appreciated.
>
> Steve

From graemes at internode.on.net  Wed May 14 21:30:22 2008
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 13:00:22 +0930
Subject: [Roadsters] sway bar towers - keeping them straight
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Thanks to the member who alerted me to this!
 
I usually provide a link to the List when I send pics. to an individual.
You can click on this link, 
http://tinyurl.com/4c9mk5
and then go to pics. #46 - #56.
How clever is THAT!

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From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Thu May 15 08:28:11 2008
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 09:28:11 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop sunroof idea, whadya-think
Message-ID: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755DA8F8F6@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>

>From the files of "don't you have enough projects, and can't you leave
well enough alone":

I have a beautifully restored hardtop, (no side windows, says "Tyler" on
the inside label) given to me by a generous roadster owner who was not
going to use it.
Not sure if I will ever use it as well, as I always go topless (eww, bad
mental picture there), and have realized my "bimini top" idea isn't
going to work, as my head sticks up above the windshield frame line, so
the canvas would be sitting on my head.

So anyway, I saw this posted locally:
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/pts/655433664.html

And thought about either installing it in the hardtop, either in the
roof (conventional) or as a replacement for the back window
(un-conventional) to aid in ventilation / air flow.

Opinions, suggestions welcomed.  (wish I could find an alternate source,
similarly priced, a bit closer..... Any list members near Escondido?)

Fergus O
69 2000, delusions of project time grandeur
HB, CA

From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Thu May 15 08:52:52 2008
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 07:52:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop sunroof idea, whadya-think
In-Reply-To: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755DA8F8F6@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
Message-ID: <27590.59525.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

All sunroofs are good for is leaking - and getting a sunburn on the top of your head...

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

"O'Farrell, Fergus" <Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com> wrote: >From the files of "don't you have enough projects, and can't you leave
well enough alone":

I have a beautifully restored hardtop, (no side windows, says "Tyler" on
the inside label) given to me by a generous roadster owner who was not
going to use it.
Not sure if I will ever use it as well, as I always go topless (eww, bad
mental picture there), and have realized my "bimini top" idea isn't
going to work, as my head sticks up above the windshield frame line, so
the canvas would be sitting on my head.

So anyway, I saw this posted locally:
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/pts/655433664.html

And thought about either installing it in the hardtop, either in the
roof (conventional) or as a replacement for the back window
(un-conventional) to aid in ventilation / air flow.

Opinions, suggestions welcomed.  (wish I could find an alternate source,
similarly priced, a bit closer..... Any list members near Escondido?)

Fergus O
69 2000, delusions of project time grandeur
HB, CA
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From bubwin at mts.net  Thu May 15 09:59:00 2008
From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 10:59:00 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop sunroof idea, whadya-think
In-Reply-To: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755DA8F8F6@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
References: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755DA8F8F6@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
Message-ID: <02B2553F958C4BB38964CD107E553A18@ownerPC>

>From the look of the sunroof, it's an aftermarket one that opens.  Concerns 
that come to mind are:

It likely is tempered glass, and a fair amount of weight.
It's fairly big, 18 by 36 inches.
It would be waaaaayyyy too large for a back window.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Bob Winslade
1966-1600 Missy
1967-1600 Bender
(and I still owe a write-up on wheel bearings)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" <Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:28 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop sunroof idea, whadya-think


> >From the files of "don't you have enough projects, and can't you leave
> well enough alone":
>
> I have a beautifully restored hardtop, (no side windows, says "Tyler" on
> the inside label) given to me by a generous roadster owner who was not
> going to use it.
> Not sure if I will ever use it as well, as I always go topless (eww, bad
> mental picture there), and have realized my "bimini top" idea isn't
> going to work, as my head sticks up above the windshield frame line, so
> the canvas would be sitting on my head.
>
> So anyway, I saw this posted locally:
> http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/pts/655433664.html
>
> And thought about either installing it in the hardtop, either in the
> roof (conventional) or as a replacement for the back window
> (un-conventional) to aid in ventilation / air flow.
>
> Opinions, suggestions welcomed.  (wish I could find an alternate source,
> similarly priced, a bit closer..... Any list members near Escondido?)
>
> Fergus O
> 69 2000, delusions of project time grandeur
> HB, CA
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From fj20spl311 at yahoo.com  Thu May 15 14:13:58 2008
From: fj20spl311 at yahoo.com (philip erickson)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 13:13:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters]  Hardtop sunroof idea, whadya-think
In-Reply-To: <mailman.25.1210874402.11991.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <322440.42740.qm@web31910.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Sorry I have not pictures, but I have been working/thinking about a "bimini top" type Hard Top for my SRL69 some time.  Its necessary for me to reduce my "sun" exposure...Not a bad idea for almost all of us......
  I took an old hardtop and cut it off in front of the rear window and narrowed it some.   The idea is to make it tri-fold and fit in the trunk, but it looks like it might have to sit on the package shelf.  The back will be supported by my roll bar....I am thinking of using bicycle flashlight holders as clamps, but I might go with Velcro.
   
  All comments encouraged!

From robbieharrison at comcast.net  Thu May 15 14:43:14 2008
From: robbieharrison at comcast.net (Robbie Harrison)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 16:43:14 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop sunroof idea, whadya-think
References: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755DA8F8F6@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
Message-ID: <482CA061.000001.05608@ROBBIE-PC>

To each their own, but isn't a sunroof in a convertible a lot like a screen
door in a submarine?

Robbie Harrison
68 2000

-------Original Message-------

From: O'Farrell, Fergus
Date: 5/15/2008 10:29:24 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop sunroof idea, whadya-think

>From the files of "don't you have enough projects, and can't you leave
well enough alone":

I have a beautifully restored hardtop, (no side windows, says "Tyler" on
the inside label) given to me by a generous roadster owner who was not
going to use it.
Not sure if I will ever use it as well, as I always go topless (eww, bad
mental picture there), and have realized my "bimini top" idea isn't
going to work, as my head sticks up above the windshield frame line, so
the canvas would be sitting on my head.

So anyway, I saw this posted locally:
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/pts/655433664.html

And thought about either installing it in the hardtop, either in the
roof (conventional) or as a replacement for the back window
(un-conventional) to aid in ventilation / air flow.

Opinions, suggestions welcomed.  (wish I could find an alternate source,
similarly priced, a bit closer..... Any list members near Escondido?)

Fergus O
69 2000, delusions of project time grandeur
HB, CA
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From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Thu May 15 14:42:59 2008
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 15:42:59 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop sunroof idea, whadya-think
References: <322440.42740.qm@web31910.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000301c8b6cc$452b5330$3d01000a@garage.local>

i totally agree with the sun exposure thought.  plus, on a hot day in Texas 
driving a convertible can be unbearable.

i saw an MG TD? that had used the convertible top frame (on those cars its 
not attached to the roof) to support a "bimini top" which snapped to the 
windshield like the regular top and then covered the passengers.  in lieu of 
back/side windows etc there were just straps to the snaps.

now, how to implement that on a roadster . . .


> Sorry I have not pictures, but I have been working/thinking about a 
> "bimini top" type Hard Top for my SRL69 some time.  Its necessary for me 
> to reduce my "sun" exposure...Not a bad idea for almost all of us......
>  I took an old hardtop and cut it off in front of the rear window and 
> narrowed it some.   The idea is to make it tri-fold and fit in the trunk, 
> but it looks like it might have to sit on the package shelf.  The back 
> will be supported by my roll bar....I am thinking of using bicycle 
> flashlight holders as clamps, but I might go with Velcro.

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Thu May 15 14:54:19 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 16:54:19 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop sunroof idea, whadya-think
In-Reply-To: <322440.42740.qm@web31910.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.25.1210874402.11991.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
	<322440.42740.qm@web31910.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003801c8b6cd$d9ae9f70$8d0bde50$@net>

  A soft top with a zip out rear window would keep the sun out but let the
air flow through.

  Let me think, ... oh yeah.  I bought one of them years ago from Les at
Classic Datsun!

Paul
Ohio

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Thu May 15 14:58:08 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 16:58:08 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop sunroof idea, whadya-think
In-Reply-To: <000301c8b6cc$452b5330$3d01000a@garage.local>
References: <322440.42740.qm@web31910.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<000301c8b6cc$452b5330$3d01000a@garage.local>
Message-ID: <003901c8b6ce$61fda470$25f8ed50$@net>

  Hopefully Mark Sedlak will chime in here with his efforts to make a Bimini
top for the Rat.  Maybe if all of you that have worked on the idea pool your
efforts, we'll all be able to enjoy one.

Paul
Ohio

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Oliver
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 4:43 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hardtop sunroof idea, whadya-think

i totally agree with the sun exposure thought.  plus, on a hot day in Texas
driving a convertible can be unbearable.

i saw an MG TD? that had used the convertible top frame (on those cars its
not attached to the roof) to support a "bimini top" which snapped to the
windshield like the regular top and then covered the passengers.  in lieu of

back/side windows etc there were just straps to the snaps.

now, how to implement that on a roadster . . .


> Sorry I have not pictures, but I have been working/thinking about a
> "bimini top" type Hard Top for my SRL69 some time.  Its necessary for me
> to reduce my "sun" exposure...Not a bad idea for almost all of us......
>  I took an old hardtop and cut it off in front of the rear window and
> narrowed it some.   The idea is to make it tri-fold and fit in the trunk,
> but it looks like it might have to sit on the package shelf.  The back
> will be supported by my roll bar....I am thinking of using bicycle
> flashlight holders as clamps, but I might go with Velcro.
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From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Thu May 15 15:08:26 2008
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 14:08:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop sunroof idea, whadya-think
Message-ID: <670691.27245.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

hi everyone
here is how i did it.
i used the front bar and clamps from the soft top frame.  i took that and my car to the top man (one of those guys mentioned at the end of one of the Indiana Jones films....), with my low roll bar in place.  he attached soft top material to the front bar as if for any convertible top.  then he stretched material to the roll bar, where he attached 8 or 10 snaps.  the top pulled to the bar nicely, and was open on all sides.  it was white.
i'm 6'3" and my seats were worn.  still i had to slouch quite a bit not to make a tent with my head as the post.  but it was WAY better than sitting directly in the socal sun.
i have since installed an autopower rollbar, and removed the windshield, hence all the "past-tense."  look for my old top on fergus' car sometime soon.
s
675MIZU


----- Original Message ----
From: Oliver <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 1:42:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hardtop sunroof idea, whadya-think

i totally agree with the sun exposure thought.  plus, on a hot day in Texas 
driving a convertible can be unbearable.

i saw an MG TD? that had used the convertible top frame (on those cars its 
not attached to the roof) to support a "bimini top" which snapped to the 
windshield like the regular top and then covered the passengers.  in lieu of 
back/side windows etc there were just straps to the snaps.

now, how to implement that on a roadster . . .


> Sorry I have not pictures, but I have been working/thinking about a 
> "bimini top" type Hard Top for my SRL69 some time.  Its necessary for me 
> to reduce my "sun" exposure...Not a bad idea for almost all of us......
>  I took an old hardtop and cut it off in front of the rear window and 
> narrowed it some.   The idea is to make it tri-fold and fit in the trunk, 
> but it looks like it might have to sit on the package shelf.  The back 
> will be supported by my roll bar....I am thinking of using bicycle 
> flashlight holders as clamps, but I might go with Velcro.
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Thu May 15 16:28:55 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 18:28:55 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop sunroof idea, whadya-think
In-Reply-To: <670691.27245.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <670691.27245.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CA84F2320E3465-FF0-1549@WEBMAIL-DG07.sim.aol.com>

 Do you have a pic by any chance? This bimini top idea has been around for a while it would be nice to see the finished product.
Otherwise perhaps a Bimini Project is needed with a collection of brilliant minds to design something?

Linda



 -----Original Message-----

From: steven boortz <vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com>
To: Oliver <sumton at sbcglobal.net>; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, 15 May 2008 2:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hardtop sunroof idea, whadya-think










hi everyone
here is how i did it.
i used the front bar and clamps from the soft top frame.  i took that and my car 
to the top man (one of those guys mentioned at the end of one of the Indiana 
Jones films....), with my low roll bar in place.  he attached soft top material 
to the front bar as if for any convertible top.  then he stretched material to 
the roll bar, where he attached 8 or 10 snaps.  the top pulled to the bar 
nicely, and was open on all sides.  it was white.
i'm 6'3" and my seats were worn.  still i had to slouch quite a bit not to make 
a tent with my head as the post.  but it was WAY better than sitting directly in 
the socal sun.
i have since installed an autopower rollbar, and removed the windshield, hence 
all the "past-tense."  look for my old top on fergus' car sometime soon.
s
675MIZU


----- 

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu May 15 16:36:38 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 22:36:38 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop sunroof idea, whadya-think
Message-ID: <051520082236.27561.482CBAF60008747600006BA92200750330CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

I'm sure someone could PhotoChop a jeep or dune buggy bimini onto a roadster....

Pete "OMG!!! Big Yellow Orb in Sky!!!"

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net
>  Do you have a pic by any chance? This bimini top idea has been around for a 
> while it would be nice to see the finished product.
> Otherwise perhaps a Bimini Project is needed with a collection of brilliant 
> minds to design something?
> 
> Linda
> 
> 
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> 
> From: steven boortz <vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com>
> To: Oliver <sumton at sbcglobal.net>; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Sent: Thu, 15 May 2008 2:08 pm
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hardtop sunroof idea, whadya-think
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> hi everyone
> here is how i did it.
> i used the front bar and clamps from the soft top frame.  i took that and my car 
> to the top man (one of those guys mentioned at the end of one of the Indiana 
> Jones films....), with my low roll bar in place.  he attached soft top material 
> to the front bar as if for any convertible top.  then he stretched material to 
> the roll bar, where he attached 8 or 10 snaps.  the top pulled to the bar 
> nicely, and was open on all sides.  it was white.
> i'm 6'3" and my seats were worn.  still i had to slouch quite a bit not to make 
> a tent with my head as the post.  but it was WAY better than sitting directly in 
> the socal sun.
> i have since installed an autopower rollbar, and removed the windshield, hence 
> all the "past-tense."  look for my old top on fergus' car sometime soon.
> s
> 675MIZU
> 
> 
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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Thu May 15 16:38:23 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 18:38:23 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop sunroof idea, whadya-think
In-Reply-To: <8CA84F2320E3465-FF0-1549@WEBMAIL-DG07.sim.aol.com>
References: <670691.27245.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<8CA84F2320E3465-FF0-1549@WEBMAIL-DG07.sim.aol.com>
Message-ID: <004c01c8b6dc$637fa830$2a7ef890$@net>

"with a collection of brilliant minds to design something?"

Linda


  And just where to you propose to find any of those?  (:-)


Paul
Ohio

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Thu May 15 16:57:29 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 18:57:29 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop sunroof idea, whadya-think
In-Reply-To: <8CA84F2320E3465-FF0-1549@WEBMAIL-DG07.sim.aol.com>
Message-ID: <E1JwmNw-0007WV-NW@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi Linda and list,
Mine is still in the "damn, how can I make this work" stages. I have the
back part all figured out for my design, the back end "floats" above the
roll bar by about 4". It's kinda cool actually. It keeps about the same
shape as the stock soft top instead of being flat on top and rattling in the
wind like a sheet.
The "whittling a front bow out of wood" idea didn't work out as well as I
thought it would. Mostly because it's a lot of friggin work. What we need is
a Front Bow project. If someone could create several hundred of THOSE, we'd
all be able to make our own designs for tops, and have a BLAST showing them
off!!! If this happens... we need High Window/3 latch ones first!!! LOL!
I'll scan some of my drawings/pix in the next week or two and post a link. I
had WAY "too much time on my hands" when I was off work for chemo!! LMAO!
For those who know me; that is (of course) a Styx reference.
Matt 

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of ljordan704 at netscape.net
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 6:29 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hardtop sunroof idea, whadya-think

 Do you have a pic by any chance? This bimini top idea has been around for a
while it would be nice to see the finished product.
Otherwise perhaps a Bimini Project is needed with a collection of brilliant
minds to design something?

Linda

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Thu May 15 17:02:17 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 19:02:17 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop sunroof idea, whadya-think
In-Reply-To: <004c01c8b6dc$637fa830$2a7ef890$@net>
Message-ID: <E1JwmSb-0001xK-IU@elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Japan has a few. The proof is in our GARAGES!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!
;-)

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 6:38 PM
To: ljordan704 at netscape.net
Cc: 'datsun-roadsters'
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hardtop sunroof idea, whadya-think

"with a collection of brilliant minds to design something?"

Linda


  And just where to you propose to find any of those?  (:-)


Paul
Ohio
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From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com  Thu May 15 17:12:45 2008
From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 16:12:45 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Sharing the Joy!
Message-ID: <C452117D.A5CD%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>

After what seemed to be the winter of all winters, the Roadster is out of
the garage and being driven again. Sounds great, drives great, looks great,
life's great! Can't wait to drive it home from work...maybe I'll take a
little detour along the way.

-Greg
SRL31100494

From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Thu May 15 17:19:30 2008
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 16:19:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop sunroof idea, whadya-think
Message-ID: <338662.28242.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

hi linda
i will take some pics before i deliver the top to fergus.
s
675MIZU


----- Original Message ----
From: "ljordan704 at netscape.net" <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 3:28:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hardtop sunroof idea, whadya-think

Do you have a pic by any chance? This bimini top idea has been around for a while it would be nice to see the finished product.
Otherwise perhaps a Bimini Project is needed with a collection of brilliant minds to design something?

Linda



-----Original Message-----

From: steven boortz <vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com>
To: Oliver <sumton at sbcglobal.net>; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, 15 May 2008 2:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hardtop sunroof idea, whadya-think










hi everyone
here is how i did it.
i used the front bar and clamps from the soft top frame.  i took that and my car 
to the top man (one of those guys mentioned at the end of one of the Indiana 
Jones films....), with my low roll bar in place.  he attached soft top material 
to the front bar as if for any convertible top.  then he stretched material to 
the roll bar, where he attached 8 or 10 snaps.  the top pulled to the bar 
nicely, and was open on all sides.  it was white.
i'm 6'3" and my seats were worn.  still i had to slouch quite a bit not to make 
a tent with my head as the post.  but it was WAY better than sitting directly in 
the socal sun.
i have since installed an autopower rollbar, and removed the windshield, hence 
all the "past-tense."  look for my old top on fergus' car sometime soon.
s
675MIZU


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From tputland at charter.net  Fri May 16 16:56:51 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 18:56:51 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Any one know of? (Not OT)
Message-ID: <20080516185651.IQG1D.447983.root@fepweb02>

Someone who can take some side trim and work the ding and dents out? I would ship it to where ever.

This is an early model year set. What is the difference between the years in the trim type?

Also, has any one ever had this type of trim (is it stainless of Aluminum?) chrome plated? And if so, how did you mount it after the plating process?

TIA

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From rulee at att.net  Fri May 16 18:02:49 2008
From: rulee at att.net (russell southwell)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 17:02:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] roadstersun roofs
Message-ID: <483410.95193.qm@web82008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I had a low windshield hardtop with a tinted sunroof installed, goot it with a high wiindshield car I bought. I gave to Nathan Ruffcorn and I think he 
re-did it back to original.
Russ Southwell
70 1600

From davesmbox at aol.com  Fri May 16 18:09:50 2008
From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 20:09:50 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Any one know of? (Not OT)
In-Reply-To: <20080516185651.IQG1D.447983.root@fepweb02>
References: <20080516185651.IQG1D.447983.root@fepweb02>
Message-ID: <8CA85C9756551FA-DE4-2986@Webmail-mg02.sim.aol.com>

NU Chrome in Fall River Mass 508 324 0002 can redo your stainless trim and buff it like new. Don't chrome it. They are pretty good on chrome too and still reasonable in price.
Dave







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Sent: Fri, 16 May 2008 6:56 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Any one know of? (Not OT)



Someone who can take some side trim and work the ding and dents out? I would 
ship it to where ever.

This is an early model year set. What is the difference between the years in the 
trim type?

Also, has any one ever had this type of trim (is it stainless of Aluminum?) 
chrome plated? And if so, how did you mount it after the plating process?

TIA

Tim
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From graemes at internode.on.net  Fri May 16 18:51:05 2008
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 10:21:05 +0930
Subject: [Roadsters] Any one know of? (Not OT)
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"This is an early model year set. What is the difference between the years
in the trim type?"

Tim, the early cars had a side trim that has a concave centre section and
they look in cross section like a rounded M.
The late trim is without the depressed centre....I think?

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From davesmbox at aol.com  Fri May 16 20:29:53 2008
From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 22:29:53 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Any one know of? (Not OT)
In-Reply-To: <GAECJDADOAHAKPLGADNHCEFJCLAA.conner_a@comcast.net>
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OUCH. No I really had good experience with them on 3 occasions.
Dave


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To: davesmbox at aol.com
Sent: Fri, 16 May 2008 10:23 pm
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Any one know of? (Not OT)



Dave,
I saw once before you recommended these guys for chrome.  Because the chrome
place here in Baltimore has a really bad reputation, I was interested in Nu
Chrome.  However, after doing some web searching I found a lot of horror
stories and bad reviews of Nu Chrome in Fall River.  Clearly this is not
indicative of your experience, but enough stories to give me pause.  Check
this out:  !
http://www.imperialclub.com/Part/Vendors/NuChrome.htm

Also the BBB gives them an Unsatisfactory rating with 31 complaints the last
36 months.
http://reports.bosbbb.org/Boston/Public/Reports/BrandedReport.aspx?firm=6317
6

Andy Conner

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Behalf Of davesmbox at aol.com
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Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Any one know of? (Not OT)


NU Chrome in Fall River Mass 508 324 0002 can redo your stainless trim and
buff it like new. Don't chrome it. They are pretty good on chrome too and
still reasonable in price.
Dave







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From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, 16 May 2008 6:56 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Any one know of? (Not OT)



Someone who can take some side trim and work the ding and dents out? I would
ship it to where ever.

This is an early model year set. What is the difference between the years in
the
trim type?

Also, has any one ever had this type of trim (is it stainless of Aluminum?)
chrome plated? And if so, how did you mount it after the plating process?

TIA

Tim
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From davesmbox at aol.com  Fri May 16 20:40:21 2008
From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 22:40:21 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Any one know of? (Not OT)
In-Reply-To: <GAECJDADOAHAKPLGADNHCEFJCLAA.conner_a@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <8CA85DE7C58612C-DE4-31A4@Webmail-mg02.sim.aol.com>

Wow these postings are fairly recent. Clearly something has change there. My dealings were several years ago. Too many negatives to be a coincidence. I take back my endorsement.
Dave


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To: davesmbox at aol.com
Sent: Fri, 16 May 2008 10:23 pm
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Any one know of? (Not OT)



Dave,
I saw once before you recommended these guys for chrome.  Because the chrome
place here in Baltimore has a really bad reputation, I was interested in Nu
Chrome.  However, after doing some web searching I found a lot of horror
stories and bad reviews of Nu Chrome in Fall River.  Clearly this is not
indicative of your experience, but enough stories to give me pause.  Check
this out:  !
http://www.imperialclub.com/Part/Vendors/NuChrome.htm

Also the BBB gives them an Unsatisfactory rating with 31 complaints the last
36 months.
http://reports.bosbbb.org/Boston/Public/Reports/BrandedReport.aspx?firm=6317
6

Andy Conner

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Any one know of? (Not OT)


NU Chrome in Fall River Mass 508 324 0002 can redo your stainless trim and
buff it like new. Don't chrome it. They are pretty good on chrome too and
still reasonable in price.
Dave







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From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
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Sent: Fri, 16 May 2008 6:56 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Any one know of? (Not OT)



Someone who can take some side trim and work the ding and dents out? I would
ship it to where ever.

This is an early model year set. What is the difference between the years in
the
trim type?

Also, has any one ever had this type of trim (is it stainless of Aluminum?)
chrome plated? And if so, how did you mount it after the plating process?

TIA

Tim
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'70 SPL AND SRL
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From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Sat May 17 00:09:25 2008
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 23:09:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] towing
Message-ID: <510886.65281.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

hi everyone
i am considering towing my roadster to the track, using a tow bar.  the car will roll on its own wheels.  this seems to be the cheapest way to do it.  must i de-tach the drive shaft?  anything else i should do to the car to make it tow more easily?
thank you in advance.
steve
675MIZU

From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com  Sat May 17 06:56:06 2008
From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 08:56:06 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Any one know of? (Not OT)
In-Reply-To: <20080516185651.IQG1D.447983.root@fepweb02>
Message-ID: <002401c8b81d$5fc8d9e0$0402a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>

Tim

I used Bob Mayle's Stainless Trim restoration in Depew (Buffalo) New York.
Here is his web page http://www.stainlessresto.com/

He did my 70 SPL stainless side moldings - $12 per foot so about $230.  His
work is EXCELENT and timely. Bob took out all the dings and polished to a
mirror finishing - really quite incredible when I think about how badly I
handle a pecking hammer and dolly...

He works out of him home, very nice guy - that's his '56 Chevy  with a crate
LT-1 on the home page of his web site.

Joe

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[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+jrusso07=rochester.rr.com at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 6:57 PM
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Any one know of? (Not OT)

Someone who can take some side trim and work the ding and dents out? I would
ship it to where ever.

This is an early model year set. What is the difference between the years in
the trim type?

Also, has any one ever had this type of trim (is it stainless of Aluminum?)
chrome plated? And if so, how did you mount it after the plating process?

TIA

Tim
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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Sat May 17 07:10:28 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 09:10:28 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] towing
Message-ID: <cb3.30afed11.35603344@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/16/2008 11:10:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time,  voci
ferouschicanery at yahoo.com writes:

hi  everyone
i am considering towing my roadster to the track, using a tow  bar.  the car 
will roll on its own wheels.  this seems to be the  cheapest way to do it.  
must i de-tach the drive shaft?  anything  else i should do to the car to make 
it tow more easily?
thank you in  advance.
steve
675MIZU



Make sure the tow bar is attached to something  solid. The original bumper 
mounting location is a little weak without some  reinforcement. As to the drive 
shaft, it depends on whether oil is slung in the  trans. Hopefully someone 
with a gear box out can remove the bottom plate, put it  in neutral and turn the 
tail shaft. If gears below the oil level turn then you  are good to go. 
 
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From d-solomon at comcast.net  Sat May 17 07:23:49 2008
From: d-solomon at comcast.net (Daniel Solomon)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 06:23:49 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] more items on ebay
Message-ID: <482EDC65.3060102@comcast.net>

hey folks:
my last notice never made it through to the list, so I'll try again.
I've added more items to my ebay auctions (parting-out the '66).  
Including hubcaps, headlight scoops, tailights, etc.
you can see them here: 
http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZdansfam794z

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Sat May 17 11:14:48 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 10:14:48 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Any one know of? (Not OT)
In-Reply-To: <002401c8b81d$5fc8d9e0$0402a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>
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	<002401c8b81d$5fc8d9e0$0402a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>
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One of our club members restored the side trim on his later-model roadster
by essentially making a die and stamp out of hardwood.
One piece was a about a 2" square block that had a recess that matched the
outer shape of the trim. Then he made a die out of another piece of hardwood
that would fit inside the trim. Lay the trim face down on the block, put the
die inside the trim and tap with a hammer. Rinse and repeat, as they say.

He said it took him about 40 hours to get all the dings out of a full set of
trim. So if you're comparing to Mr. Mayle's prices, you're valuing your time
at about $6/hr just to straighten it, and then you still have to buff it
out. Time is money. Your choice.

Gordon Glasgow

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From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Joe Russo
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 5:56 AM
To: 'Tim'; 'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Any one know of? (Not OT)

Tim

I used Bob Mayle's Stainless Trim restoration in Depew (Buffalo) New York.
Here is his web page http://www.stainlessresto.com/

He did my 70 SPL stainless side moldings - $12 per foot so about $230.  His
work is EXCELENT and timely. Bob took out all the dings and polished to a
mirror finishing - really quite incredible when I think about how badly I
handle a pecking hammer and dolly...

He works out of him home, very nice guy - that's his '56 Chevy  with a crate
LT-1 on the home page of his web site.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+jrusso07=rochester.rr.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+jrusso07=rochester.rr.com at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 6:57 PM
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Any one know of? (Not OT)

Someone who can take some side trim and work the ding and dents out? I would
ship it to where ever.

This is an early model year set. What is the difference between the years in
the trim type?

Also, has any one ever had this type of trim (is it stainless of Aluminum?)
chrome plated? And if so, how did you mount it after the plating process?

TIA

Tim
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From fergus06 at socal.rr.com  Sat May 17 17:14:46 2008
From: fergus06 at socal.rr.com (Fergus OFarrell)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 16:14:46 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] alternative rear view mirror #1
Message-ID: <009601c8b873$ccfcf9a0$e5bb1e18@fergus031a2176>

first attempt at getting rear view mirror out of field of vision.  I pursued
the stick-on versions, but I had to stick them on so high on the windshield,
to have clear vision over my shoulder, that they created their own blindspot.
this would be considered "the cheapo", somewhat "tacky looking"  version, but
very functional.
Attempt #2 comes about Monday, as a helpful local roadster owner sold me a
latch mount and snap in mirror arm, which I am getting welded together at the
local Junior College.

this one works well, much better vision both out the windshield and in the
mirror, as it is just slightly convex.  I can see behind me in the lanes on
both sides, my hat  just shows up as a bump in the bottom 1/4 of the mirror.

http://public.fotki.com/FergusO/carpics-2008/

thanks for all the suggestions.

Fergus O

From rksmith46 at hotmail.com  Sat May 17 17:23:19 2008
From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 19:23:19 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] towing
In-Reply-To: <cb3.30afed11.35603344@aol.com>
References: <cb3.30afed11.35603344@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY124-W39B05AC2B712A57ADEF70BBFCB0@phx.gbl>

hi all, well at last something i have a lot of experience with: flat

towing the datsun roadster. ive towed mine probably 3000 miles

over the last 30+ years. it works fine,nothing needs to be unhooked.

ther are some caveats: you cant backup. you do need to be sure the

trans. oil isnt low. sometimes when you go in or out of an uneven drive

way, the steering wheel will turn all the way to one side and stay there.

you will know this by the tires screeching. you simply stop, straighten the

steer. wheel, and you are on your way. dont worry, this never happens

at speed, or going around corners--only when slowly turning into or out of a

driveway. also, i never tie the steering wheel, i leave it free. it needs to
turn

when going around corners. you might want to leave the park lights on at
night.

if you are thinking of tying your tow car lights to the roadster
lights--dont.

you would need to disconnect the tail lights from the wiring harness, and

tie into them with the tow car wiring. well, with my advice you have to

listen to a story: i time, i towed one roadster with another from florida

to virginia. the 2L. had plenty of power, but i had to watch my braking

distances.    good luck, bob smith, ohio
                                   69 srl311
                                    70 chev. el camino SS

p.s. my tow bar attached in where the bumper brackets bolt to the frame.>
From: Keith0alan at aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 09:10:28 -0400> To:
vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: Re:
[Roadsters] towing> > In a message dated 5/16/2008 11:10:05 PM Pacific
Daylight Time, voci> ferouschicanery at yahoo.com writes:> > hi everyone> i am
considering towing my roadster to the track, using a tow bar. the car > will
roll on its own wheels. this seems to be the cheapest way to do it. > must i
de-tach the drive shaft? anything else i should do to the car to make > it tow
more easily?> thank you in advance.> steve> 675MIZU> > > > Make sure the tow
bar is attached to something solid. The original bumper > mounting location is
a little weak without some reinforcement. As to the drive > shaft, it depends
on whether oil is slung in the trans. Hopefully someone > with a gear box out
can remove the bottom plate, put it in neutral and turn the > tail shaft. If
gears below the oil level turn then you are good to go. > > keith> > > >
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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Sat May 17 19:27:08 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 21:27:08 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] towing
In-Reply-To: <cb3.30afed11.35603344@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000001c8b886$4aabca40$6800a8c0@delled48909442>

If the trans has a one piece counter gear and "noemal" layout, which I
think it does, then I don't think it will spin with the wheels rolling,
as it is always meshed with the input shaft, no matter what gear you are
in including neutral.  If that is the case, it only spins with the
engine.

They make driveshaft disconnects, a cable operated sleeve coupling that
goes on the shaft, specifically for flat towing.  I know someone with an
MG-V8 who uses one.  
Big question, how far will you be towing it?

Dave 
ECR
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith0alan at aol.com [mailto:Keith0alan at aol.com] 
 In a message dated 5/16/2008 11:10:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time,  voci
ferouschicanery at yahoo.com writes:

hi  everyone
i am considering towing my roadster to the track, using a tow  bar.  the
car 
will roll on its own wheels.  this seems to be the  cheapest way to do
it.  
must i de-tach the drive shaft?  anything  else i should do to the car
to make 
it tow more easily?
thank you in  advance.
steve
675MIZU



Make sure the tow bar is attached to something  solid. The original
bumper 
mounting location is a little weak without some  reinforcement. As to
the drive 
shaft, it depends on whether oil is slung in the  trans. Hopefully
someone 
with a gear box out can remove the bottom plate, put it  in neutral and
turn the 
tail shaft. If gears below the oil level turn then you  are good to go. 
 
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From roadster at astound.net  Sun May 18 00:04:32 2008
From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 23:04:32 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] towing
In-Reply-To: <BAY124-W39B05AC2B712A57ADEF70BBFCB0@phx.gbl>
References: <cb3.30afed11.35603344@aol.com>
	<BAY124-W39B05AC2B712A57ADEF70BBFCB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <9DB033D8-1452-4C9C-8548-77FBF4F85EE8@astound.net>

On May 17, 2008, at 4:23 PM, robert k. smith wrote:
> <snip>

> p.s. my tow bar attached in where the bumper brackets bolt to the  
> frame.>

I think I recall Phyllis Almazan telling me of a bad incident, where  
the frame bracket weld broke free causing both vehicles to wipe out.  
Might want to check with her to see if I recall right.

I've got a tow-bar like that, and haven't had a problem flat towing a  
roadster. Just make sure you have long bolts with nuts going through  
the frame and tow-bar brackets, just in case the welds on the frame  
break. Don't just rely on bolting to the metal that's welded to the  
frame (that the bumper brackets use).

Fred Katz - So.SF

From graemes at internode.on.net  Sun May 18 05:54:27 2008
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 21:24:27 +0930
Subject: [Roadsters]  towing
Message-ID: <000601c8b8dd$ece409b0$236fa8c0@desktop>

"I've got a tow-bar like that, and haven't had a problem flat towing a
roadster. Just make sure you have long bolts with nuts going through the
frame and tow-bar brackets, just in case the welds on the frame break. Don't
just rely on bolting to the metal that's welded to the frame (that the
bumper brackets use)."

I saved these pics. years ago from someone who built this caboose.
I have never built it or used it, just providing the info.
http://tinyurl.com/6ljwl5
Pics. 60-64.

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From Geegc at aol.com  Sun May 18 08:23:34 2008
From: Geegc at aol.com (Geegc at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 10:23:34 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Continuing Solex Problem
Message-ID: <c62.2fc167a8.356195e6@aol.com>

I have a set of old-style Solex carburetors on my 68 Datsun 2000.  They have 
been a never-ending source of  trouble and had been recently rebuilt by an 
expert, but the problem has  continued.  The rear carburetor  works fine, but the 
front carburetor leaks (this may just be an issue with  seals) and the idle 
circuit on the front carburetor doesn't seem to work at  all. 
I'm wondering if the front carburetor idle system is not supposed to work  
and would appreciate hearing from any other owners of solex carburetors as to  
their experiences. 
In particular, if there is anyone in Los  Angeles who would care to consult, 
or at least meet me at  Skip Miller's shop (my mechanic) in Altadena with 
their solex carb roadster, so  we can compare the way they are hooked up. 
Thanks very much 
Gary Cohen 
Red 1600 
Black 2000



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From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Sun May 18 10:19:30 2008
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 09:19:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb problems
Message-ID: <535437.6753.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

   Thanks to Dave, I got my jet centered up at the Datsun Brewery
   get-together. We had 9 cars, but not Little Red, she just would not
   drive.

   So I get home, and put the carbs back in. Isn't that last nut on the
   front carb fun?

   She starts up and runs better, no doubt, but something is still not
   right. I cannot get her to run without the choke on, and she is just
   rough, not smooth. I check air flow, equal. I check timing, perfect. I
   pick up the front carb, and she speeds up. I pick up the back carb and
   she dies. I cover the front carb and she speeds up. I cover the back
   carb and she slows to an idle.

   Obviously these carbs are very different somehow....

   I check the mixture knobs, both 1 turn out. I try to set them better,
   I turn the back carb down to increase richness. No visible change. But
   with the choke on 1/4, who knows if this makes any sense? I go back to
   1 turn out.

   Then I check float level. Using Keith's method, the back carb seems
   fine, the level just covers the jet when th cloke is full on and the
   jet full down. But on the front one, the fuel doesn't come so high.

   I also notice the jets are at different levels. Both mixtre knows are
   out on turn from top, the choke is off with slack in the cables. The
   front jet sticks up about .050" and the back jet sticks up about .020"

   I don't know what to do about different height jets, but I look for
   "how to adjust float level", all the time cursing Apple, who
   supposedly rebuilt my carbs and fixed them to make them right..... Two
   things they did wrong - so far....

   But I find conflicking info. See
   http://www.jetlink.net/~okayfine/SU/moreinfo.html

   This says the fuel level should be level with the jet to when the
   choke is OFF. Jeff (who obviousy knows the particulars on Datsun, says
   it should be just above the jet leve with the choke on.

   Still confused, anyone know which way to go, how to adjust the float
   level?

   Any ideas on how the jets are different heights?

   Jim New Jersey

From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Sun May 18 14:58:41 2008
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 13:58:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb Problems
Message-ID: <846670.28003.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

   Well, Davce advised I set the idle setting for the seat/jet at .060
   below the top of the tube it rides in. That worked the trick! I owe
   him a beer.

   On these carbs, it is much more than 1 turn down from the stop, I'd
   say one is about 3 turns, the other 2.5 turns.

   It seems the setting of 1 turn down from the stop at the top is for
   carbs that are correctly put together. I set the jets to .060, and all
   is well.

   Unfortunately, the dog bone fell apart, so I had to stop any
   adjustments until the engine cools down.

   But she idles. I'll do the 2000 rpm mixture later.

   I also have to figure out how the dog bone fell apart.

   Jim

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Sun May 18 16:32:52 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 18:32:52 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Continuing Solex Problem
Message-ID: <d0e.2a751bf2.35620894@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/18/2008 8:04:33 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
Geegc at aol.com writes:

I'm  wondering if the front carburetor idle system is not supposed to work   
and would appreciate hearing from any other owners of solex carburetors as  
to  
their experiences. 



The front idle circuit is supposed to work. 
 
I'm in Las Vegas so it's a little bit far to come by but here would be my  
approach. 
 
1) Figure out the leak and fix it. If it's something like the float valve  
sticking open it will cause a world of problems.
 
2) Get out the Uni-Syn and make sure the air flow is balanced on all four  
barrels at idle and high speed. If the air flow does not match between barrels  
on the came carb the either the throttle plates are bent or the throttle shaft 
 is twisted.
 
3) Using a Color-tune (spark plug with a view) set each idle screw to set  
the flame color to just on the blue side of the blue/yellow dividing point. This 
 needs to be done at around 800 rpm. All four screws should be about 1 1/2 
turns  out. 
 
4) At this point a gas analyzer/ oxygen sensor box should indicate about an  
ideal mixture. Start slowly raising the engine speed. By around 1500 you are  
likely to have gone lean or rich. Correct this by changing the idle/pilot 
jets.  This can also be done cylinder by cylinder with the Color-tune.
 
5) Go back to step three. Once you get to where the mixture stays flat  
through 1500 then go in up to 2500. Once again it is likely to go lean or rich.  
Correct this with the main jets. This can be done cylinder by cylinder with the  
Color-tune or with the gas analyzer.
 
6) At this point most of the work is done. Drive the car and see if it  
stumbles or bogs on acceleration. If so take a look at the accelerator pump  jets. 
 
7) If it's stumbly/ lean or rich at high speed full throttle driving  then 
the air corrector jets or emulsion tubes need adjusted.
 
The obvious question is "Can't someone just tell me to put in X pilots, Y  
mains, Z air corrector, Q accelerator pump jets, etc, etc?". The short answer is 
 no. These carbs are sensitive to the exact engine they are on and must be 
tuned  to that engine. If you set your's up like those on another car you should 
be  close but it's just a starting point. 
 
Also, it's entirely likely that you will find that three cylinders are fine  
with one jet size and the fourth is rich or lean. Yes this happens. Jet each  
cylinder to what it wants to run properly. 
 
The initial setup is very time consuming but once done future fine tuning  
goes much faster. 
 
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From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Sun May 18 22:04:02 2008
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 21:04:02 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Aftermarket Header Install
Message-ID: <000801c8b965$60962ff0$6500a8c0@Daryl>

Have been working on installing the aftermarket header on my '66 roadster
today.
Took the previous 1 5/8"  4-2-1  header off because of a bad gasket leak at #1
cylinder at the head.

Have to say the welds on the aftermarket header at the head flange look great.
Nice and smooth, everything lines up well, bolts right on.
Get down to the collector tho, and everything goes haywire!
It seems to be about 3/4" to 1" too short, so that the flex pipe has to be
bent upward to meet it.
Then the collector is angled towards the block and down by 15 to 20 degrees.
The flex pipe will be rubbing up against the tranny/flexplate.
I ground a bunch of welding "slag" from the inside of the collector to free up
a bit of exhaust flow.
The pipes sit almost tight to the block/oilpan heating those parts and the
gasket unnessecarily. There is room for it to be easily 1/2" away from the
engine.

I don't know whether I got an especially bad example or not, but it's easy to
see why these headers never got an endorsement from the roadster community.

Now to be fair this header is probably 5 years old, but never installed. I
don't know if all or any of these issues have been dealt with in any updated
headers. But what a PITA to hook an exhaust pipe to!!

Anyone having similar problems?

Daryl

From fj20spl311 at yahoo.com  Sun May 18 22:22:57 2008
From: fj20spl311 at yahoo.com (philip erickson)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 21:22:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] flat towing
In-Reply-To: <mailman.21.1211133602.29071.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <446166.45059.qm@web31907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

  Be very careful about check to make certian the transmission is in neutral.  I have also seen what happens to an engine (not a Datsun or mine, but a VW).  The transmission "jumped into 2nd" and the high revolutions caused by highway speeds pumped all the oil out of the engine, before it threw a couple of rods.  Basically nothing usable was left.
   
  Wire up a light bar to attach to the back of the Datsun and don't forget side lights.
   
  I once saw a bus converted into a motor home with a sign on the side, "Car in Tow".   Nothing too strange about that except that the bus was stopped in an intersection by an accident with a car that tried to turn left behind the bus.   The car had run into the towed car.

From rksmith46 at hotmail.com  Mon May 19 08:00:12 2008
From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 10:00:12 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] towing
In-Reply-To: <000601c8b8dd$ece409b0$236fa8c0@desktop>
References: <000601c8b8dd$ece409b0$236fa8c0@desktop>
Message-ID: <BAY124-W49E03BEBCE89EB5FAC2B85BFC50@phx.gbl>

hi all, ill have to say, in all the years and thousands of miles ive towed

my roadster, i havent had a problem with the brackets welded to the

body. i tried to be gentle when towing the datsun. i accelerated and

braked gently, and always looked and planned far ahead when driving

and towing. i guess if you feel safer, you can make a towbar to bolt

thru the frame.   bob smith> From: graemes at internode.on.net> To:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 21:24:27 +0930>
Subject: [Roadsters] towing> > "I've got a tow-bar like that, and haven't had
a problem flat towing a> roadster. Just make sure you have long bolts with
nuts going through the> frame and tow-bar brackets, just in case the welds on
the frame break. Don't> just rely on bolting to the metal that's welded to the
frame (that the> bumper brackets use)."> > I saved these pics. years ago from
someone who built this caboose.> I have never built it or used it, just
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From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Mon May 19 18:06:04 2008
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 17:06:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb Problems
Message-ID: <88024.50552.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

   Well, no answer from Apple Hyd on the carb problems.

   I think I know a way to make the carbs work, just raise the needles.

   (they measure 0.100" at the root of the needle)

   Keith, is this nuts? I'm thinking just 1/16", .032 or so.

   Jim

From aultgc at att.net  Mon May 19 20:42:00 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 19:42:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb Problems
Message-ID: <294322.2451.qm@web83808.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

You should not have to raise the needles on the carbs.  If everything else is
working correctly, you should set the position of the needles so the shoulders
are even with the bottoms of the pistons.  A small straightedge will allow you
to check.
 
Z-Therapy does a great job on SUs.  It's $650 for a complete
rebuild, or $250 for just the throttle bodies.  If you know your needles and
nozzles are not worn, you could get by with the throttle bodies.  But, there
are so many little things which can go wrong with SUs.....
 I was helping a
guy in Indianapolis with his '68 2000 with worn throttle shafts.  He bought a
remanufactured set from Z-Therapy.  I put them on the car, fired it up, and it
ran fine right out of the box.  Idle was a little fast for my taste, but that
was easily rectified.  The car still has some problems, but carbs are not
oneof them.

Gary Ault


----- Original Message ----
From: Jim Gammon
<gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com>
To: Datsun roadster <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 7:06:04 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb Problems

 
Well, no answer from Apple Hyd on the carb problems.

  I think I know a way
to make the carbs work, just raise the needles.

  (they measure 0.100" at the
root of the needle)

  Keith, is this nuts? I'm thinking just 1/16", .032 or
so.

  Jim
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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Mon May 19 21:00:26 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 23:00:26 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Aftermarket Header Install
In-Reply-To: <000801c8b965$60962ff0$6500a8c0@Daryl>
Message-ID: <002101c8ba25$a7fab1c0$6800a8c0@delled48909442>

I got two from a vendor, a 2000 3 yrs ago using the flex pipe and a 1600
econo last month bolted straight to the exhaust with a couple cones..
Both fit great, no issues.  

Funny enough, I bought a set of Hooker headers for a Dodge truck years
ago, figured better to pay for the name brand.  Boy was I wrong.
Similar problem, the right headers flange was 20 plus degrees "up" from
vertical and not square to the frame.  Called Hooker, got a polite
"tough".  Had to make a question-mark shaped pipe to get it back on
track.

Sounds extreme, but if it's not coated, could you cut the flange off and
reweld it straight?  Might be easier than all the problems getting a
pipe on.

Dave Brisco
ECR.
-----Original Message-----
From: Daryl Smith [mailto:drlsmith at dccnet.com] 
 Have been working on installing the aftermarket header on my '66
roadster
today.
Took the previous 1 5/8"  4-2-1  header off because of a bad gasket leak
at #1
cylinder at the head.

Have to say the welds on the aftermarket header at the head flange look
great.
Nice and smooth, everything lines up well, bolts right on.
Get down to the collector tho, and everything goes haywire!
It seems to be about 3/4" to 1" too short, so that the flex pipe has to
be
bent upward to meet it.
Then the collector is angled towards the block and down by 15 to 20
degrees.
The flex pipe will be rubbing up against the tranny/flexplate.
I ground a bunch of welding "slag" from the inside of the collector to
free up
a bit of exhaust flow.
The pipes sit almost tight to the block/oilpan heating those parts and
the
gasket unnessecarily. There is room for it to be easily 1/2" away from
the
engine.

I don't know whether I got an especially bad example or not, but it's
easy to
see why these headers never got an endorsement from the roadster
community.

Now to be fair this header is probably 5 years old, but never installed.
I
don't know if all or any of these issues have been dealt with in any
updated
headers. But what a PITA to hook an exhaust pipe to!!

Anyone having similar problems?

Daryl

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Tue May 20 00:09:53 2008
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 23:09:53 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Aftermarket Header Install
References: <002101c8ba25$a7fab1c0$6800a8c0@delled48909442>
Message-ID: <000f01c8ba40$1f7dcab0$6500a8c0@Daryl>

Thanks for the notes about the headers/manifolds. Glad I'm not the only one
having difficulties.
I figure the only way to make this fit is to cut and weld the part that bolts
to the header to angle it
back towards the correct direction and away from the engine tranny.
Here's hoping I get it on the first try.......

Daryl


----- Original Message -----
From: "dave" <daveandlindab at comcast.net>
To: " Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Aftermarket Header Install


>I got two from a vendor, a 2000 3 yrs ago using the flex pipe and a 1600
> econo last month bolted straight to the exhaust with a couple cones..
> Both fit great, no issues.
>
> Funny enough, I bought a set of Hooker headers for a Dodge truck years
> ago, figured better to pay for the name brand.  Boy was I wrong.
> Similar problem, the right headers flange was 20 plus degrees "up" from
> vertical and not square to the frame.  Called Hooker, got a polite
> "tough".  Had to make a question-mark shaped pipe to get it back on
> track.
>
> Sounds extreme, but if it's not coated, could you cut the flange off and
> reweld it straight?  Might be easier than all the problems getting a
> pipe on.
>
> Dave Brisco
> ECR.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daryl Smith [mailto:drlsmith at dccnet.com]
> Have been working on installing the aftermarket header on my '66
> roadster
> today.
> Took the previous 1 5/8"  4-2-1  header off because of a bad gasket leak
> at #1
> cylinder at the head.
>
> Have to say the welds on the aftermarket header at the head flange look
> great.
> Nice and smooth, everything lines up well, bolts right on.
> Get down to the collector tho, and everything goes haywire!
> It seems to be about 3/4" to 1" too short, so that the flex pipe has to
> be
> bent upward to meet it.
> Then the collector is angled towards the block and down by 15 to 20
> degrees.
> The flex pipe will be rubbing up against the tranny/flexplate.
> I ground a bunch of welding "slag" from the inside of the collector to
> free up
> a bit of exhaust flow.
> The pipes sit almost tight to the block/oilpan heating those parts and
> the
> gasket unnessecarily. There is room for it to be easily 1/2" away from
> the
> engine.
>
> I don't know whether I got an especially bad example or not, but it's
> easy to
> see why these headers never got an endorsement from the roadster
> community.
>
> Now to be fair this header is probably 5 years old, but never installed.
> I
> don't know if all or any of these issues have been dealt with in any
> updated
> headers. But what a PITA to hook an exhaust pipe to!!
>
> Anyone having similar problems?
>
> Daryl

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Tue May 20 07:40:56 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 09:40:56 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb Problems
Message-ID: <c3b.358d6520.35642ee8@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/19/2008 5:06:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,  
gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com writes:

Well, no answer from Apple Hyd on the carb problems.

I  think I know a way to make the carbs work, just raise the  needles.

(they measure 0.100" at the root of the  needle)

Keith, is this nuts? I'm thinking just 1/16", .032  or so.

Jim



You shouldn't have to raise the needles. Flush with the face should be good  
to go. What needles did they use? I've heard that Apple did these carbs but 
I'm  not famaliar with their work. If you pull the needles out there is likely 
to be  some letters/numbers stamped on the base. Nissan tends to mark them with 
painted  numbers and letters that don't last well but the Brits still stamp 
them. If they  have simply installed the wrong needles they are not likely to 
ever work  properly. 
 
With the mixture knobs all the way up the nozzle should be even with the  top 
of the nozzle holder. 
 
It's really hard to sort these things out this way. If you would like you  
can send them to me and I'll take a look. Drop me a note off list.
 
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From gregs672liter at netzero.net  Tue May 20 12:13:35 2008
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 18:13:35 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] Continuing Solex Problem
Message-ID: <20080520.111335.2923.3@webmail23.vgs.untd.com>

Wow, one of the best tuning descriptions I have seen... nice job Keith.  He is
right, high performance requires high effort and a desire to tinker.
Fortunately, I like to tinker! Maybe I should invest in a color tune...
Greg Burrows

-- Keith0alan at aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 5/18/2008 8:04:33 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
Geegc at aol.com writes:

I'm  wondering if the front carburetor idle system is not supposed to work
and would appreciate hearing from any other owners of solex carburetors as
to
their experiences.



The front idle circuit is supposed to work.

I'm in Las Vegas so it's a little bit far to come by but here would be my
approach.

1) Figure out the leak and fix it. If it's something like the float valve
sticking open it will cause a world of problems.

2) Get out the Uni-Syn and make sure the air flow is balanced on all four
barrels at idle and high speed. If the air flow does not match between
barrels
on the came carb the either the throttle plates are bent or the throttle
shaft
is twisted.

3) Using a Color-tune (spark plug with a view) set each idle screw to set
the flame color to just on the blue side of the blue/yellow dividing point.
This
needs to be done at around 800 rpm. All four screws should be about 1 1/2
turns  out.

4) At this point a gas analyzer/ oxygen sensor box should indicate about an
ideal mixture. Start slowly raising the engine speed. By around 1500 you are
likely to have gone lean or rich. Correct this by changing the idle/pilot
jets.  This can also be done cylinder by cylinder with the Color-tune.

5) Go back to step three. Once you get to where the mixture stays flat
through 1500 then go in up to 2500. Once again it is likely to go lean or
rich.
Correct this with the main jets. This can be done cylinder by cylinder with
the
Color-tune or with the gas analyzer.

6) At this point most of the work is done. Drive the car and see if it
stumbles or bogs on acceleration. If so take a look at the accelerator pump
jets.

7) If it's stumbly/ lean or rich at high speed full throttle driving  then
the air corrector jets or emulsion tubes need adjusted.

The obvious question is "Can't someone just tell me to put in X pilots, Y
mains, Z air corrector, Q accelerator pump jets, etc, etc?". The short answer
is
no. These carbs are sensitive to the exact engine they are on and must be
tuned  to that engine. If you set your's up like those on another car you
should
be  close but it's just a starting point.

Also, it's entirely likely that you will find that three cylinders are fine
with one jet size and the fourth is rich or lean. Yes this happens. Jet each
cylinder to what it wants to run properly.

The initial setup is very time consuming but once done future fine tuning
goes much faster.

keith "I love my SUs" williams



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From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Tue May 20 12:26:32 2008
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 11:26:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb Problems
In-Reply-To: <c3b.358d6520.35642ee8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <667619.69361.qm@web51112.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

   Apple is sending new needles. They suspect a vacuum leak, but I don't
   have one, but will look again.

   I'm out of town, will be home Thursday late

   Jim
   --- On Tue, 5/20/08, Keith0alan at aol.com <Keith0alan at aol.com> wrote:

     From: Keith0alan at aol.com <Keith0alan at aol.com>
     Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Carb Problems
     To: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
     Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2008, 9:40 AM

   In a message dated 5/19/2008 5:06:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
   gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com writes:

       Well, no answer from Apple Hyd on the carb problems.
        I think I know a way to make the carbs work, just raise the
     needles.
        (they measure 0.100" at the root of the needle)
        Keith, is this nuts? I'm thinking just 1/16", .032 or so.
        Jim

   You shouldn't have to raise the needles. Flush with the face should be
   good to go. What needles did they use? I've heard that Apple did these
   carbs but I'm not famaliar with their work. If you pull the needles
   out there is likely to be some letters/numbers stamped on the base.
   Nissan tends to mark them with painted numbers and letters that don't
   last well but the Brits still stamp them. If they have simply
   installed the wrong needles they are not likely to ever work properly.

   With the mixture knobs all the way up the nozzle should be even with
   the top of the nozzle holder.

   It's really hard to sort these things out this way. If you would like
   you can send them to me and I'll take a look. Drop me a note off list.

   keith "the slow carb guy" williams

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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Tue May 20 13:32:52 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 15:32:52 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb Problems
Message-ID: <cb5.31eba225.35648164@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/20/2008 11:31:50 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com writes:

Apple is sending new needles. They suspect a vacuum leak, but I  don't
have one, but will look again.

I'm  out of town, will be home Thursday late

Jim



Keep us posted.
 
thanks,
 
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From sportsix63 at yahoo.com  Tue May 20 18:42:12 2008
From: sportsix63 at yahoo.com (jim williams)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 17:42:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Heater Control Cables
Message-ID: <135854.65278.qm@web32501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

How do you get to the heater control levers on the
back side of the dash to replace a broken cable????
Thanks

  Jim Williams
  Lewisburg, West Virginia

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Wed May 21 04:18:34 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 06:18:34 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Heater Control Cables
In-Reply-To: <135854.65278.qm@web32501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E1JylOz-0005Pf-HU@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi Jim,
I assume you're talking about a low windshield car. Folks will need to know
if you're talking flat dash or padded dash to answer this question.
Sorry, but I have no reference point for the flat dash. High windshield is
easy (relatively)... just start unscrewing things. I found fairly easy
access once the radio console was removed and the glove box was out. 
Glove box cardboard tends to disintegrate in your hands tho; you may not
want to go that route unless you're ready for a whole new project. My glove
box has been re-created using sheet aluminum and using the original
cardboard pieces as a pattern. It was a lot of work, but very satisfying
results.
Matt

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From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of jim williams
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 8:42 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Heater Control Cables

How do you get to the heater control levers on the
back side of the dash to replace a broken cable????
Thanks

  Jim Williams
  Lewisburg, West Virginia
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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Wed May 21 06:46:57 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 08:46:57 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Continuing Solex Problem
Message-ID: <bcb.2ac5a13b.356573c1@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/21/2008 3:07:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time,  
matthews517 at earthlink.net writes:

I think  after I read this email about 900 more times I'm going to play with
MY  Solexes this weekend. Thank you Keith!!!!   :-)



Warning: The first time I sorted through a set it took about a day and a  
half, after I read the books and fixed the bent throttle shaft and plate. The  
key is thinking a lot, doing a little, and having a method. 
 
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From vulforge at aol.com  Wed May 21 13:06:17 2008
From: vulforge at aol.com (vulforge at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 15:06:17 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Heater cables
Message-ID: <8CA898CE173D6CC-BD0-19F1@Webmail-mg11.sim.aol.com>

On a low-windshield car you just unscrew the triangular plate by the driver's knee.? Not much room to work in there, you might gain some by removing the radio.?The cables and clamps are between the radio and the transmission hump.


Russell Criswell
Vulcan's Forge
3936 Broadway
Kansas City, MO
64111

816-931-6303
816-931-9378 fax
877-531-1046 toll-free
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Wed May 21 13:37:55 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 12:37:55 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT - though perhaps relevant -Shipping (UPS v.
	Greyhound)
Message-ID: <BAY106-W346B1F1582418831A40D0FDFC70@phx.gbl>

Hi List
I just shipped the last of Steven Boortz'  freebies - a roll bar. Weighed 37
lbs. UPS wanted $170 (plus they wanted it boxed and packaged) - Greyhound only
wanted $49.95!!!!! (just had to put cardboard around the pointy bits).
Downside is that you can only ship to locations that they serve and they don't
deliver, but for $120.00!!!

FWIW

Peter

From davesmbox at aol.com  Wed May 21 13:59:10 2008
From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 15:59:10 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT - though perhaps relevant -Shipping (UPS v.
 Greyhound)
In-Reply-To: <BAY106-W346B1F1582418831A40D0FDFC70@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY106-W346B1F1582418831A40D0FDFC70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8CA899444EF671E-E08-1B71@MBLK-M06.sysops.aol.com>

We have used Greyhound too. It's same day not next day depending on how far it is
Dave


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From: peter harrison <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>
To: datsun <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, 21 May 2008 3:37 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] OT - though perhaps relevant -Shipping (UPS v. Greyhound)



Hi List
I just shipped the last of Steven Boortz'  freebies - a roll bar. Weighed 37
lbs. UPS wanted $170 (plus they wanted it boxed and packaged) - Greyhound only
wanted $49.95!!!!! (just had to put cardboard around the pointy bits).
Downside is that you can only ship to locations that they serve and they don't
deliver, but for $120.00!!!

FWIW

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From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Wed May 21 15:51:51 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 17:51:51 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Heater Control Cables
In-Reply-To: <664157.89193.qm@web32503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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-----Original Message-----
From: jim williams [mailto:sportsix63 at yahoo.com] 

Mine is a 1970.
I tried to go in on the drivers side but too much
stuff is in the way.
Its the hot/cold control I need to replace. I just
can't get enough room to get my hand in there. I got
the cable out, the new cable ready to go but the clamp
and screw that holds the cable is the problem.
I'll try the glove box thought.

OK Jim,
If it gets to bee too hairy a job, or you are about to mess up the glove box
cardboard, try this:
*	It is spring... close the valve to the core manually. This fall,
re-open it.
*	You could close the valve ALMOST all the way, so it gets very little
hot coolant passing thru it so it doesn't rust out or the coolant go bad.
*	Even more effective, how bout a piece of hose to bypass the heater
core completely? (Remember tho that you will have coolant going stagnant in
the heater core and causing corrosion)
If you're like I am, and the thought that the cable doesn't work is pissing
you off, go for it. Do what ya gotta do. My glove box project started
because I HATED knowing that there was a hole in the back because of an
aftermarket radio. I couldn't see it. I didn't use it. But I KNEW IT WAS
THERE!
Once I started taking it out, I realized why some folks say it's not a
project for the faint of heart. Even with good laser cut replacement
cardboard parts I would not be too confident that I could put one back
together and make it look stock. Mine doesn't look stock, but it's not far
off. It's the same dimensions, just not made of cardboard. I covered the
pieces of aluminum with black grained vinyl before putting them together.
Oh, by the way, I didn't put it together and THEN try to put it in, like the
cardboard ones are. I actually (finally) figured out that I needed to build
the thing INSIDE the glove box area (like a ship in a bottle). I wanted to
rivet it together cuz I thought it would look cool, but I used screws so I
can also dismantle it and get to the things like the clock, heater cables,
etc.
Now you've got me going. I'm going to go out and take it apart and take some
pix. I'll try to post them tonight or this weekend so everyone can see.
HEHEHEHE!
Above all...HAVE FUN!
Matt

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Wed May 21 17:08:07 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 19:08:07 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb Problems
In-Reply-To: <cb5.31eba225.35648164@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000601c8bb97$8931b090$6800a8c0@delled48909442>

Looks like I might be going fishing next weekend and stopping to play at
Jim's Worse case I have 2 sets of needles from 69 2000's

I'm not good at carbs, but I'm local :)

Dave Brisco

ECR

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith0alan at aol.com [mailto:Keith0alan at aol.com] 
 
In a message dated 5/20/2008 11:31:50 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com writes:

Apple is sending new needles. They suspect a vacuum leak, but I  don't
have one, but will look again.

I'm  out of town, will be home Thursday late

Jim



Keep us posted.
 
thanks,
 
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From rulee at att.net  Wed May 21 19:18:46 2008
From: rulee at att.net (russell southwell)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 18:18:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] re heater cables
Message-ID: <633347.20897.qm@web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

before removing glove box , I sprayed the fibreboard with clear polyurethane to give it more structure/stability. after removing it I srayed the other side.
Russ Southwell
70 1600

From tputland at charter.net  Thu May 22 05:25:53 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 4:25:53 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Two gas cap questions
Message-ID: <20080522072553.JO3OD.218321.root@fepweb07>

I cannot find the key code to get a key cut for a gas cap. Some one please remind me of that. 

Also, has anyone out there had a gas cap re-chromed? I have one taken apart (thanks Gary!) and am still considering (months later) having it done. But I wonder if I will be able to put it back together after the chroming process. Doesn't the chroming process do the entire piece on all sides, exposed surfaces, etc? 

TIA

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Thu May 22 08:40:46 2008
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 09:40:46 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] '64 FS in North Hollywood
Message-ID: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755DADCFEE@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>

This one is beggin' to be taken home and given some TLC.

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/car/690137249.html

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Thu May 22 09:27:29 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 11:27:29 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] '64 FS in North Hollywood
In-Reply-To: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755DADCFEE@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
References: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755DADCFEE@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
Message-ID: <002401c8bc20$59d7a820$0d86f860$@net>

  If that car was in Ohio, it wouldn't last a day at that price.

Paul
Ohio

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of O'Farrell, Fergus


This one is beggin' to be taken home and given some TLC.

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/car/690137249.html

From tom at datsun2000.com  Fri May 23 01:53:15 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 00:53:15 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] SHASTA REGISTRATION FLYER/FORM POSTED
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGIEOFDEAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

I have received the Shasta 2008 flyer and registration form in the mail and
posted the form in PDF format on the nowroc.org calendar page for people
planning to attend who are not currently on the mailing list, or may be
attending Shasta for the first time.

Registrations are due by July 3 to avoid an extra $5.00 registration fee.

On the calendar page you will find links to several motels in Mt. Shasta and
the surrounding area to help find a place to crash if you are not camping.
I have also set up a place to post your expected travel time if you would
like to see who is traveling your way and would like to try to set up
caravans.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

From tputland at charter.net  Fri May 23 07:10:25 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 6:10:25 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] SHASTA REGISTRATION FLYER/FORM POSTED
In-Reply-To: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGIEOFDEAA.tom@datsun2000.com>
Message-ID: <20080523091025.TPC7X.285605.root@fepweb03>

When talking about a classice car show, I think "find a place to crash" might need some re-wording! lol

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- "Tom @ Datsun2000" <tom at datsun2000.com> wrote: 

=============
I have received the Shasta 2008 flyer and registration form in the mail and
posted the form in PDF format on the nowroc.org calendar page for people
planning to attend who are not currently on the mailing list, or may be
attending Shasta for the first time.

Registrations are due by July 3 to avoid an extra $5.00 registration fee.

On the calendar page you will find links to several motels in Mt. Shasta and
the surrounding area to help find a place to crash if you are not camping.
I have also set up a place to post your expected travel time if you would
like to see who is traveling your way and would like to try to set up
caravans.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

From tom at datsun2000.com  Fri May 23 10:48:24 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 09:48:24 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] SHASTA REGISTRATION FLYER/FORM POSTED
In-Reply-To: <20080523091025.TPC7X.285605.root@fepweb03>
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGIEOGDEAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

GOOD POINT !!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim [mailto:tputland at charter.net]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 6:10 AM
To: tom at datsun2000.com; Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SHASTA REGISTRATION FLYER/FORM POSTED


When talking about a classice car show, I think "find a place to crash" might
need some re-wording! lol

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- "Tom @ Datsun2000" <tom at datsun2000.com> wrote:

=============
I have received the Shasta 2008 flyer and registration form in the mail and
posted the form in PDF format on the nowroc.org calendar page for people
planning to attend who are not currently on the mailing list, or may be
attending Shasta for the first time.

Registrations are due by July 3 to avoid an extra $5.00 registration fee.

On the calendar page you will find links to several motels in Mt. Shasta and
the surrounding area to help find a place to crash if you are not camping.
I have also set up a place to post your expected travel time if you would
like to see who is traveling your way and would like to try to set up
caravans.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

From jklingman at stny.rr.com  Sat May 24 17:01:44 2008
From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 19:01:44 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] quiet
Message-ID: <000b01c8bdf2$2302cae0$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>

Has everybody been busy or has my filter been too busy. I haven't had a post
in several days. Getting lonely here. Sunny days and the roadster isn't
ready.
  John and Gloria Klingman
   Sidney, NY '68 2000 a.k.a. Spike

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Sat May 24 17:16:30 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 16:16:30 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] quiet
In-Reply-To: <000b01c8bdf2$2302cae0$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>
References: <000b01c8bdf2$2302cae0$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>
Message-ID: <BAY106-W20866501BBD168A5B12283DFC00@phx.gbl>

John
Same here -still trying to put Eliza back together after trip and painting -
electrical problems need to be resolved before I replace the dash - hate to
see the car just sitting in the garage with a wistful smile on her face - been
about 3 months since I had her on the road properly. It will happen..

Peter



> From: jklingman at stny.rr.com> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Sat,
24 May 2008 19:01:44 -0400> Subject: [Roadsters] quiet> > Has everybody been
busy or has my filter been too busy. I haven't had a post> in several days.
Getting lonely here. Sunny days and the roadster isn't> ready.> John and
Gloria Klingman> Sidney, NY '68 2000 a.k.a. Spike>
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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Sat May 24 18:29:54 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 20:29:54 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] quiet
In-Reply-To: <000b01c8bdf2$2302cae0$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>
References: <000b01c8bdf2$2302cae0$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>
Message-ID: <003801c8bdfe$75479ef0$5fd6dcd0$@net>

   Okay, I'll chip in my 2 cents.  Went and looked at a 1600 last night.  A
decent driver in need of some TLC.  All original under the hood including a
working smog pump.  Another couple came and looked at it when we were done.
It had some good stuff and some bad stuff; typical 40 year old car.  I
looked at it for a friend.  I might make an offer if she doesn't buy it.

Paul

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From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of John Klingman
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 7:02 PM
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] quiet

Has everybody been busy or has my filter been too busy. I haven't had a post
in several days. Getting lonely here. Sunny days and the roadster isn't
ready.
  John and Gloria Klingman
   Sidney, NY '68 2000 a.k.a. Spike
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From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Sat May 24 20:23:44 2008
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 21:23:44 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] quiet
References: <000b01c8bdf2$2302cae0$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>
Message-ID: <002201c8be0e$87992780$941f10ac@garage.local>

well, i've been too distracted by too much, but after the party my wife is 
throwing next saturday is over, my weeks of house renovation will be repaid 
with weeks of car renovation!

need to:
install the glass in the recently rechromed frame
figure out why it quit running
finish redoing the wiring
put the new top one
drive the heck out of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


> Has everybody been busy or has my filter been too busy. I haven't had a 
> post
> in several days. Getting lonely here. Sunny days and the roadster isn't
> ready.
>  John and Gloria Klingman
>   Sidney, NY '68 2000 a.k.a. Spike 

From tom at datsun2000.com  Sat May 24 20:33:54 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 19:33:54 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] quiet
In-Reply-To: <000b01c8bdf2$2302cae0$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGOEOJDEAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

Too busy working on Mr. Hyde.

I spent most of the day designing and building a mount for a hydrogen
generator in the trunk.  I have already modified an air cleaner base to feed
the hydrogen gas to the carb air intake.  If it works I can go back to
regular gas (requires super now) and the engine will think it has 108 octane
fuel.  Maybe the mileage will increase too.  I am hoping to have it all in
and working for the trip the Shasta.  My Kia computer was confused by this
system and actually fed more gas to the engine.  The Lexus SC400 has 4
oxygen sensors to deal with, so Mr. Hyde is my test vehicle.

I installed a vortex generator in the Lexus a couple of days ago.  So far
the way the gas gauge is falling slower it looks like the mileage is
improved, but I have not actually put gas into the tank since I filled it
after the installation was complete.  I will let the list know how it works
after a tank or two.  For now it feels smoother (could be my imagination)
and I don't drive the car hard (that's Mr. Hyde's job), so I don't know if
the claimed power increase is real or not.  The cost was very reasonable,
and I should recover the cost a couple of times over in just one oil change
interval with just a modest increase in mileage.

http://www.sccoupe.com/images/turbo/side-front_view-500.jpg
http://www.sccoupe.com/images/turbo/installed_view-1-500.jpg

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org







-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of John Klingman
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 4:02 PM
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] quiet


Has everybody been busy or has my filter been too busy. I haven't had a post
in several days. Getting lonely here. Sunny days and the roadster isn't
ready.
  John and Gloria Klingman
   Sidney, NY '68 2000 a.k.a. Spike
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From jklingman at stny.rr.com  Sat May 24 21:06:06 2008
From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 23:06:06 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] quiet
Message-ID: <001b01c8be14$465c5a20$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>

Thanks for dropping us a line. It's great support when you are missing your
roadster . If I can't work on my car, I can hear about your's. Missed the
emails.
 Had a real heart stopper today on the way to a car show swap meet. We had
dropped Spike off at a friend's shop to have the new roll bar installed,
located 30 miles east of us, the meet was in a town 25 miles west of us and
while we were there we drove by a custom car shop and spotted a Datsun
roadster parked along side a R/T Charger. Gloria recognized it was our
roadster as we passed. We thought Spike had been stolen, being over 50 miles
from where we thought she was. We stopped and confirmed it was Spike, and then
we checked the name of the business. Gloria found the owner, identified
herself as the car owner and demanded to know what they were doing with her
car. Turns out our friend is a part owner of the shop and needed to use some
equipment and had dropped the car off there. He hadn't thought to mention it
to us.Talked to our friend and after the explosion I don't think he will back
Spike out of the garage without calling her first.
 We just had to share this with people who do understand and share our
attachment to these little cars and our fears.
  John and Gloria Klingman
  Sidney, NY '68 2000 a.k.a. Spike

From graemes at internode.on.net  Sat May 24 21:11:55 2008
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 12:41:55 +0930
Subject: [Roadsters] quiet
In-Reply-To: <000b01c8bdf2$2302cae0$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>
References: <000b01c8bdf2$2302cae0$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>
Message-ID: <000601c8be15$167360f0$236fa8c0@desktop>

 "Has everybody been busy or has my filter been too busy." 

It is our Autumn and the NH spring so perhaps we are all busy adjusting to
the change of seasons?
Seriously, I have been busy repairing the rustouts in the body of my 1965
SP310.
I have posted a swag of pics. on the 311s.org site: -
http://tinyurl.com/4ezr3m [author: Nissanman]
but they are also on my Shutterfly site.
If anyone wants to see the extent of the damage and the gradual repair of
same: -
http://tinyurl.com/5xbsa2
The last couple of weeks are documented in pics. 401 - 450+ in my Shutterfly
album.
It is a big job but as that wise old Indian philospher Mahatmacoat said, 
"All big jobs are just a a lot of little jobs strung together".
I'm making sure that this little sucker takes at least another 40 years
before it needs this work doing again!!
Regards,
Graeme Suckling

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From gogineni.alvin at gene.com  Sun May 25 01:17:07 2008
From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 00:17:07 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 2008 MotoringJStyle pics!!!
Message-ID: <001c01c8be37$57114f10$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com>

David Swig put on another great show!

My favorite part was Pete Brock's BRE history talk...I learned so much. 

Weather went from early am rain to cloudy skies but boy we had an awesome
roadster turnout, 20+ roadsters!!!

Our caravan met up with Dave Premo and his 67.5 SRL roadster is quick! He
truly is the "mikuni guru"

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2262538670103240641LZZcXI 

 

Highlights:

Mike Young brought a stunning '64 3 seater with a 411 trans swap...he showed
me the "erector-set" top...wild!!! Congrats on the award Mike

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2829270110103240641qUCycy

 

 

I was confronted by some luchadores :lol: 

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2107073270103240641wzzvQe

 

Pete Brock brought his V8-powered Datsun 510:

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2858989310103240641EVOKrY

 

 

Adam Corolla's lightweight racing roadster

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2780637440103240641MrHLwF

 

 

Pete Brock's Powerpoint presentation was electrifying.  He started from the
Hino racecars. He described the spook as one of many "loopholes" he
capitalized on for performance...the spray bar as an "oil cooler" was
another:

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2970426600103240641GgwCOc

 

When it came time to describe the Alfa/510 battle Pete choked up so much the
audience felt how emotional it must have been at the time: 

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2521232680103240641cEJVYA

 

 Morton deserved the glory!

 

THE GTR:

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2661736000103240641GJdwKO

 

 

Ron Carter's BRE replica 240z and the real  BRE 510:

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2266446620103240641KLtdaJ

 

Will got his glovebox signed by Pete Brock!

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2696618370103240641JlHcVM

 

Here is the link to the entire album,enjoy!!!

From gregs672liter at netzero.net  Sun May 25 16:20:57 2008
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 22:20:57 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] quiet
Message-ID: <20080525.152057.4393.0@webmail16.vgs.untd.com>

Ya, I've been busy too, installing a cloaking device in the Roadster.  It only
works at night, but when activated it automatically dechromes the car,
converts the paint to flat black, switches off all lights and converts
navigation to an active radar emitting steering system that keeps me from
hitting anything while simultaneously engaging the second U20 solex motor
installed in the trunk.  So far it works pretty good and is great for doing
donuts in the local 7-11 parking lot, but I'm kinda worried it might not
really be there when I wake up... :-)

Greg "smart ass" Burrows
(I am a donkey after all, with 2 masters degrees...)
(Actually, this car did exist, though it was really a baha style VW bug that
my friend Tom had at WSU.  Painted flat black with no chrome, brush guards all
around, the "cloaking device" was actually activated by pulling the fuse that
fed power to the tail lights so that when you hit the brakes they did not
light up.  After the command was issued "Engage cloaking device!" we would
drive all over campus in places where you and certainly no car was supposed to
go... great fun back in the day!)

-- "Tom @ Datsun2000" <tom at datsun2000.com> wrote:
Too busy working on Mr. Hyde.

I spent most of the day designing and building a mount for a hydrogen
generator in the trunk.  I have already modified an air cleaner base to feed
the hydrogen gas to the carb air intake.  If it works I can go back to
regular gas (requires super now) and the engine will think it has 108 octane
fuel.  Maybe the mileage will increase too.  I am hoping to have it all in
and working for the trip the Shasta.  My Kia computer was confused by this
system and actually fed more gas to the engine.  The Lexus SC400 has 4
oxygen sensors to deal with, so Mr. Hyde is my test vehicle.

I installed a vortex generator in the Lexus a couple of days ago.  So far
the way the gas gauge is falling slower it looks like the mileage is
improved, but I have not actually put gas into the tank since I filled it
after the installation was complete.  I will let the list know how it works
after a tank or two.  For now it feels smoother (could be my imagination)
and I don't drive the car hard (that's Mr. Hyde's job), so I don't know if
the claimed power increase is real or not.  The cost was very reasonable,
and I should recover the cost a couple of times over in just one oil change
interval with just a modest increase in mileage.

http://www.sccoupe.com/images/turbo/side-front_view-500.jpg
http://www.sccoupe.com/images/turbo/installed_view-1-500.jpg

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
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From tputland at charter.net  Sun May 25 17:13:27 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 16:13:27 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] front quarter removal--cloaking device territory for me
Message-ID: <20080525191327.W3XQ4.361045.root@fepweb06>

I am trying to remove a front quarter from a basket case part car I just got. 

Since this is the first time I have tried to remove a front quarter--with out trashing it,  I am in never before explored territory--kinda like Greg's "cloaking device" and someone else's nuclear powered Roadster...

Any way, I, FOR THE LIFE OF ME, cannot see how to remove the three bolts just in front of the A pillar. Am I missing something here? Or is that a totally enclosed space? 

Thanks in advance. 

OH YEA...in case you forgot, read the last line of my signature again....

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From slowboy at cox.net  Sun May 25 17:51:56 2008
From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 16:51:56 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] front quarter removal--cloaking device territory
 for me
References: <20080525191327.W3XQ4.361045.root@fepweb06>
Message-ID: <000801c8bec2$50c80dc0$0301a8c0@m7170n>

Still clueless but always learning, unexplored territory, cloaking device, 
cone of silence, would you believe...

He's Agent 86, keeps missing it by this " "  much.

I knew there was something I liked about you; how's 99?

;O)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>
To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 4:13 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] front quarter removal--cloaking device territory for me


>I am trying to remove a front quarter from a basket case part car I just 
>got.
>
> Since this is the first time I have tried to remove a front quarter--with 
> out trashing it,  I am in never before explored territory--kinda like 
> Greg's "cloaking device" and someone else's nuclear powered Roadster...
>
> Any way, I, FOR THE LIFE OF ME, cannot see how to remove the three bolts 
> just in front of the A pillar. Am I missing something here? Or is that a 
> totally enclosed space?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> OH YEA...in case you forgot, read the last line of my signature again....
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning

From jedwabny at earthlink.net  Sun May 25 18:11:34 2008
From: jedwabny at earthlink.net (Joseph Jedwabny)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 17:11:34 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [Roadsters] **69 1600 Offers Wanted**
Message-ID: <12596491.1211760694650.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hello all,

I've got a few weeks before I pack her up for my new home in WA state. 
She is now parked in Scotts Valley, CA (Santa Cruz) and she can be seen at www.mygoodstuff4sale.com.

Nice shape and could be driven as is or do a fancy restoration. Has electronic ignition, good tires, hardly any rust (mainly bumpers. Parking brake needs adjusting and she is a little hard to start. 

I'm looking for offers and want to sell before July 4th. Any takers?

Thanks,
Joe

From graemes at internode.on.net  Sun May 25 18:22:40 2008
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 09:52:40 +0930
Subject: [Roadsters] front quarter removal--cloaking device territory
 for me
In-Reply-To: <20080525191327.W3XQ4.361045.root@fepweb06>
References: <20080525191327.W3XQ4.361045.root@fepweb06>
Message-ID: <000601c8bec6$a13c8840$236fa8c0@desktop>

Tim, I assume you are referring to the three bolts that the front guard is
held on to the "A" pillar?
They screw into a captive thread set into the pillar.
If you can't get them to turn there is really not much alternative to
beheading them.
Yes, they enter the boxed in "A" pillar, no access to speak of from the
interior of the car.
 

I am trying to remove a front quarter from a basket case part car I just
got. 
Any way, I, FOR THE LIFE OF ME, cannot see how to remove the three bolts
just in front of the A pillar. Am I missing something here? Or is that a
totally enclosed space? 

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of LHS sill 070.jpg]

From escanlon at wa-net.com  Sun May 25 19:14:27 2008
From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 18:14:27 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] front quarter removal--cloaking device territory
 for me
References: <20080525191327.W3XQ4.361045.root@fepweb06>
Message-ID: <001201c8becd$d877eb90$0300a8c0@HPW>

Remove the doors.

Then again, if you don't mind trashing the edge of the fender and/or the 
doors, then a 1/4" socket with extensions and a swivel....maybe...

FWIW
E

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>
To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 4:13 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] front quarter removal--cloaking device territory for me


>I am trying to remove a front quarter from a basket case part car I just 
>got.
>
> Since this is the first time I have tried to remove a front quarter--with 
> out trashing it,  I am in never before explored territory--kinda like 
> Greg's "cloaking device" and someone else's nuclear powered Roadster...
>
> Any way, I, FOR THE LIFE OF ME, cannot see how to remove the three bolts 
> just in front of the A pillar. Am I missing something here? Or is that a 
> totally enclosed space?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> OH YEA...in case you forgot, read the last line of my signature again....
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
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From stebharvey at ameritech.net  Mon May 26 04:54:36 2008
From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (steb)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 05:54:36 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch Adjustment
Message-ID: <007401c8bf1e$e3daf1c0$0574fea9@steb1>

Group,
 
The clutch reservoir did turn out to be bad (stuck) with the piston not
moving either direction. I'll try soaking it to see if I can get the
piston out of the housing. Maybe I can save it for a spare. I looked in
my extensive parts department (garage attic) and found a brand new
reservoir with the receipt from 1995. Price, $36.35 including tax!
 
I now have good clutch pressure but the clutch engages right at the
floor. I'm having a brain fart trying to figure out which direction to
adjust the piston rod in order to have the clutch engage an inch or two
from the bottom of the clutch pedal stroke. Any ideas?
 
Steve Harvey
P.S. If you see a Vet today, thank him or her.

From rksmith46 at hotmail.com  Mon May 26 17:27:37 2008
From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 19:27:37 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch Adjustment
In-Reply-To: <007401c8bf1e$e3daf1c0$0574fea9@steb1>
References: <007401c8bf1e$e3daf1c0$0574fea9@steb1>
Message-ID: <BAY124-W12176C9EDB28B55E97BC2FBFC20@phx.gbl>

hi steve, you have too much free play on the pedal, or the arm

 coming out of the bell housing. the play at the arm on the bell

hsing. should be 1/8 to 1/4 in.; no more.  on the pedal, be sure

there is 1- 11/2 in. free play(at the top) before the pedal gets

hard to push. do it by hand so you can feel the play better. if the

rod on the clutch pedal isnt adjustable, you might need to get one

that is threaded, as the original roadster setup is, and, there

should be a spring on the arm to bell hsng, and an adjustable rod,

so you can adj. free play there, too. if this doesnt make sense,

please call me. 1 614 418 9911.

good luck, bob smith , ohio.> From: stebharvey at ameritech.net> To:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 05:54:36 -0500>
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch Adjustment> > Group,> > The clutch reservoir did
turn out to be bad (stuck) with the piston not> moving either direction. I'll
try soaking it to see if I can get the> piston out of the housing. Maybe I can
save it for a spare. I looked in> my extensive parts department (garage attic)
and found a brand new> reservoir with the receipt from 1995. Price, $36.35
including tax!> > I now have good clutch pressure but the clutch engages right
at the> floor. I'm having a brain fart trying to figure out which direction
to> adjust the piston rod in order to have the clutch engage an inch or two>
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From gregs672liter at netzero.net  Mon May 26 18:27:32 2008
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 00:27:32 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] EI distributors
Message-ID: <20080526.172732.5528.0@webmail23.vgs.untd.com>

Hi gang, just got a second here.  Apparently there is an on-going battle on
311s.org about who created the first EI distributor and I got mentioned.
Since I am not on the forum and don't really have time to post to it, I am
posting here in the hopes that someone will copy and paste this to the forum
to clear things up (I guess it got kinda heated).
Anyway, the history of the EI dizzy from my experience is this:  In 1987 I
went to Shasta.  There I met a guy from the Napa valley who had converted an
EI dizzy from a 310 for his Roadster.  I have no idea what his name was and I
have never seen him again.  I thought that was way cool, so I went back to
Long Beach (where I lived at the time) and told my friend Bill Beaubier.  We
decided to hit the wrecking yards and see what we could come up with.  Trial
and error and some help from Dave Premo about the curve as I recall and soon
we had a running EI.  Bill made a few as I recall for other people...our goal
was to simply help other Roadsters run better.  Years later I heard that Gary
B was making them and my old one had worn out.  Gary did a custom one for me
and did a great job.  Gary put together a great manual etc.  I do not know if
Gary did this as a "copy" or simply did what Bill and I did but who really
cares?  He did a great, professional job, and I have recommended his work for
many years.  Plus he had improved the original, in that he could do custom
curves, which was critical for my high compression U20.  Gary should be
commended for a terrific product and for all the work he did.
So, that is the "true" story.  The EI conversion is one of the best mods you
can do for your car, so just be glad that someone is continuing to make them.
Best Roadstering to you all!
Greg Burrows

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From efrisbee at charter.net  Mon May 26 21:34:07 2008
From: efrisbee at charter.net (Eric Frisbee)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 22:34:07 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] EI distributors
In-Reply-To: <20080526.172732.5528.0@webmail23.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <PGECLILGAOHNLNJIFPMAGEMMCHAA.efrisbee@charter.net>

Thanks for the info Greg!!   Unfortunately, some rather immature gentlemen
worked very hard to destroy that thread  and 311s was forced to shut the
thread down, but all is not lost.   I'll be sure to add your information to
the mix in an upcoming project. :)

And a simple heartfelt thank you for being among the first to build a
working EI distributor.   Amazing work and truly one of the best mods a
roadster owner could do to their car!   Thank you for your pioneering
spirit!

Eric



Hi gang, just got a second here.  Apparently there is an on-going battle on
311s.org about who created the first EI distributor and I got mentioned.
Since I am not on the forum and don't really have time to post to it, I am
posting here in the hopes that someone will copy and paste this to the forum
to clear things up (I guess it got kinda heated).
Anyway, the history of the EI dizzy from my experience is this:  In 1987 I
went to Shasta.  There I met a guy from the Napa valley who had converted an
EI dizzy from a 310 for his Roadster.  I have no idea what his name was and
I
have never seen him again.  I thought that was way cool, so I went back to
Long Beach (where I lived at the time) and told my friend Bill Beaubier.  We
decided to hit the wrecking yards and see what we could come up with.  Trial
and error and some help from Dave Premo about the curve as I recall and soon
we had a running EI.  Bill made a few as I recall for other people...our
goal
was to simply help other Roadsters run better.  Years later I heard that
Gary
B was making them and my old one had worn out.  Gary did a custom one for me
and did a great job.  Gary put together a great manual etc.  I do not know
if
Gary did this as a "copy" or simply did what Bill and I did but who really
cares?  He did a great, professional job, and I have recommended his work
for
many years.  Plus he had improved the original, in that he could do custom
curves, which was critical for my high compression U20.  Gary should be
commended for a terrific product and for all the work he did.
So, that is the "true" story.  The EI conversion is one of the best mods you
can do for your car, so just be glad that someone is continuing to make
them.
Best Roadstering to you all!
Greg Burrows

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From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Tue May 27 07:08:11 2008
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 08:08:11 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 69 2000 part car FS in Sacto, CA
Message-ID: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755DB03364@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>

This popped up on Craigslist in LA this weekend, car is in Sacramento.

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/car/695842922.html

Details of ad:
1969 Datsun 2000 Roadster. Needs restoration or part out. Does not run.
It has a hard top. Will send pictures if interested. $1800 OBO.

From bstjacques at atrua.com  Tue May 27 09:59:20 2008
From: bstjacques at atrua.com (Brian St. Jacques)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 08:59:20 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] quiet
In-Reply-To: <20080525.152057.4393.0@webmail16.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <9FDC37889ED3CF479988599DD681FA0F1A8CCB@exch01.icontrolinc.com>

I'll throw some roadster "noise" in to the mix...

I have now started in on prepping my frame for a little beautification
a'la Eastwood chassis restoration kit, and for the upcoming surgery to
get the SR20 in place. I started off with a 4 1/2" grinder with a cupped
wire brush attached. This worked much better than I expected for taking
down the rust and loose paint. I switched to a sanding disc attachment
to feather in what little paint was left and to take care of some of the
sharp edges. The 50 grit cut much more aggressively than I expected, but
worked nicely for both additional paint/rust removal and some smoothing
out of some sharp edges and ugly welds. I have to say I like the sanding
disc for the metal shaping much more than the grinding wheel - it cuts
very fast, but you have good control and can keep things pretty smooth.

I've pretty much made my way through all of the top surfaces on the
frame. I want to try and stand it up on its side and flip it over to
make access easier to the rest of the surfaces. Then its on to the rust
treatments, paint, and frame hacking.

Brian
'68 1600

From etroxel at gmail.com  Tue May 27 10:25:45 2008
From: etroxel at gmail.com (evan troxel)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:25:45 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] quiet
In-Reply-To: <9FDC37889ED3CF479988599DD681FA0F1A8CCB@exch01.icontrolinc.com>
References: <20080525.152057.4393.0@webmail16.vgs.untd.com>
	<9FDC37889ED3CF479988599DD681FA0F1A8CCB@exch01.icontrolinc.com>
Message-ID: <5c303ea40805270925s4e0a4179s351af969bac973eb@mail.gmail.com>

I would have to agree 100%. The sanding discs are all I use for the
most part anymore. I only use grinding wheels if I have to cut through
something really thick. the glued flap sanding discs are no good as
far as I'm concerned - they break apart too quickly and aren't as
flexible for feathering the metal.

my $.02

--evan

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Brian St. Jacques <bstjacques at atrua.com> wrote:
> I'll throw some roadster "noise" in to the mix...
>
> I have now started in on prepping my frame for a little beautification
> a'la Eastwood chassis restoration kit, and for the upcoming surgery to
> get the SR20 in place. I started off with a 4 1/2" grinder with a cupped
> wire brush attached. This worked much better than I expected for taking
> down the rust and loose paint. I switched to a sanding disc attachment
> to feather in what little paint was left and to take care of some of the
> sharp edges. The 50 grit cut much more aggressively than I expected, but
> worked nicely for both additional paint/rust removal and some smoothing
> out of some sharp edges and ugly welds. I have to say I like the sanding
> disc for the metal shaping much more than the grinding wheel - it cuts
> very fast, but you have good control and can keep things pretty smooth.
>
> I've pretty much made my way through all of the top surfaces on the
> frame. I want to try and stand it up on its side and flip it over to
> make access easier to the rest of the surfaces. Then its on to the rust
> treatments, paint, and frame hacking.
>
> Brian
> '68 1600
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From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Tue May 27 14:31:15 2008
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 15:31:15 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: vintage pics for aircraft buffs
Message-ID: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755DB03883@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>

Pics from local (Chino, CA) vintage airshow, 5/17/2008.
http://www.vg-photo.com/airshow/chino2008/kcno2008.html
Enjoy!
Fergus O

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Tue May 27 22:46:48 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 21:46:48 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: vintage pics for aircraft buffs
In-Reply-To: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755DB03883@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
References: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755DB03883@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
Message-ID: <002301c8c07d$d73e2bc0$85ba8340$@net>

Very nice! I love the P-38s.

BTW, anyone who makes it to Seattle should visit the Museum of Flight
(www.museumofflight.org). They've got a huge collection of planes (here's
the list: http://www.museumofflight.org/Display.asp?Page=airspace).

And it's the only place I know of where you can walk around a Blackbird. For
a plane that doesn't even have weapons, it just looks wicked!

Gordon Glasgow

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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1:31 PM
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Subject: [Roadsters] OT: vintage pics for aircraft buffs

Pics from local (Chino, CA) vintage airshow, 5/17/2008.
http://www.vg-photo.com/airshow/chino2008/kcno2008.html
Enjoy!
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From mark at bradakis.com  Wed May  7 02:39:47 2008
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 08:39:47 -0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Team.Net spring fund drive
Message-ID: <48216B58.3040002@bradakis.com>

Gee, the beginning days of May, usually  pleasant spring weather.
Woke up to 34 degrees F with light snow falling the other morning
here in Salt Lake City.  Nice.  Springtime indeed!

Seasoned subscribers know the drill, here's an outline for others.
The Team.Net mailing lists -  http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo
and http://www.team.net/cgi-bin/majorcool ( I'm slowly getting
around to moving all the lists from majordomo to mailman )
FTP site, archives, wiki ( http://www.team.net/the-local ) are all
run by some dweeb who spends too much time hiding out in a
basement office whacking on computers instead of working on
and driving his cars.

Basically it is a labor of love that has been going on for roughly
20 years, 17 years since the Team.Net domain was registered on
April 11, 1991.  But there are some out of pocket expenses that
are needed to keep things going.  So once or twice a year I ask
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So if you have a few extra bucks on hand and want to stimulate the
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for details.

Thanks,
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From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Tue May 27 07:49:02 2008
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 08:49:02 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 64 1500, curious brake system find (sorry, lotta words)
Message-ID: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755DB033CE@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>

So, I was helping (okay, trying to help is more like it) a local (Patti)
get a 64 1500 back on the road, by doing a round of brake inspection and
bleeding, and ran across a most peculiar thing, that maybe someone has
seen before.  But first here are some notes:
1.  I thought there were no shoe adjusters in the front, but looking at
the pristine, 44 year old manual, (what a cool resource!) it turns out
there are, they are just "away" from the wheel cylinder locations.
2. funny how no matter what wheel you choose to start, the one with the
problem will always be the last one looked at, 20 minutes before you
have to leave.  I'd bet Confucious has some sort of philosophical words
for this kind of luck.

So, my findings.
Inspection:
A.  all clean, dry and ready to go (drums recently turned, shoes brand
new) except for right-front, lower shoe.  All return springs very tight,
in good shape.
B.  There are two countersunk screws, offset from the studs of course,
that hold the drums onto the axle, presumably so that when changing the
tire the drum doesn't come off, although I noticed that when bleeding,
the shoes moved the drum, so that could be another reason, so it is
probably better to replace (and anti-sieze)  these if all the reasons
are not know.  Anyone know what thread size this is?   (like 1/4
diameter, 1/4" depth, I hate holes like this, because there is so few
threads, it is easy to get it wrong and cross-thread it before you
figure it out)

C.  There are pins with a flattened end that have a spring loaded twist
washer locked to the end - located 1/2 way along the front shoes, to
keep the shoes attached to the backing plate.  (none on the rear, and no
hole for them, this was curious to me, VW's have these all around)
My question:  they are very, very loose, like the stud is too long.  Is
this meant to be, or has someone swapped out VW studs? I see no evidence
of the shoes riding out against the drums, but, like I said, this car
has not driven in quite a while, and never with these all-new brake
parts.

2. leaky wheel cylinder on right-front.  It had leaked inside, onto the
shoe, so it didn't seem like a line connection leak.  So little fluid
was on it, I'd be tempted to soak it in solvent and dry it out, but
probably better to buy one set and replace the one shoe.
Much like the front disks (and different than my aircooled VW
experiences), there are two wheel cylinders, one with the line input and
an output, and one that is the termination-with only an input.  This is
the one that is leaking.  They look cleaned and relatively new, so maybe
a seal kit would work for this?

2A.  The owner said that it took a massive sized person to get the shoes
on and the springs back in place.  My experience with the VW system
(which the return springs go shoe-to-shoe, the Datsun rears go
shoe-to-shoe and the fronts go shoe-to-hub!) was that you put the shoe
ends as close to their grooves in the wheel cyls as possible and rotated
them OUT towards the axle end, then attached the springs, then rotated
the shoe into its home.  Does this work? Is there some other trick on
the shoe-to-hub models, or are you left truing to stretch the VERY STOUT
return spring with assorted crude "brake tools" available at local Pep
Boyz?

3. we bled the whole system, system is clear of all large bubbles,
although the last wheel (the perpetrator R-F) had a seeming endless
amount of carbonation-sized bubbles coming out of it.   And, the pedal
still goes to the floor.  The owner has installed a master cylinder
re-seal kit, recently.  Possibly one of the seals is reversed? (as well
as the obvious problem listed in #2 above)
Now, here is what happens.
-Press pedal to floor, some resistance, but no stoppage short of floor.
-Press it quickly again, goes to floor with no resistance.  (piston in
master has not retracted, now are just pushing pedal actuator rod up
against piston)
-Jiggle the pedal with your foot, barely touching the rod-to-piston: you
can feel the piston slowly creep back up the bore, until it is at the
"top" again.

So, from #3, I was thinking a seal in the master cylinder is backwards,
letting fluid flow past, with a minimal amount pumping fluid out while
one of the lines is open.

Fergus O, 69 2000, HB, CA

From tom at datsun2000.com  Wed May 28 00:32:04 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 23:32:04 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Team.Net spring fund drive
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGAEPFDEAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

I have decided that the weather here in Oregon, and apparently in Utah, is
politically incorrect.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland


On 5/7/2008 1:42:00 AM, Mark J Bradakis (mark at bradakis.com) wrote:
> Gee, the beginning days of May, usually  pleasant spring weather.
> Woke up to 34 degrees F with light snow falling the other morning
> here in Salt Lake City.  Nice.  Springtime indeed!
>
> Seasoned subscribers know the drill,
> here's an outline for others.
> The Team.Net mailing lists -  http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo
> and http://www.team.net/cgi-bin/majorcool ( I'm
> slowly getting
> around to moving all the lists from majordomo to mailman )
> FTP site, archives, wiki ( http://www.team.net/the-local ) are all
> run by some dweeb who spends too much time hiding out in a
> basement office whacking on computers instead of working on
> and driving his cars.
>
> Basically it is a labor of love that has been going on for roughly
> 20 years, 17 years since the Team.Net domain was registered on
> April 11, 1991.  But there are some out of pocket expenses that
> are needed to keep things going.  So once or twice a year I ask
> for funding assistance to help cover the costs of this "free" service.
>
> So if you have a few extra bucks on hand and want to stimulate the
> Team.Net economy, check out http://www.team.net/donate.html
> for details.
>
> Thanks,
> mjb.
> ________________________________________

From tputland at charter.net  Wed May 28 04:39:44 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 3:39:44 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: vintage pics for aircraft buffs
In-Reply-To: <002301c8c07d$d73e2bc0$85ba8340$@net>
Message-ID: <20080528063944.GTZ4O.467359.root@fepweb11>

My dad worked on the blackbird from almost inception until it was retired. I have seen it take off up close and personal---well, as close as one can get on the flight like without getting shot by the MPs. And yes, very wicked indeed.

Off to Bayfield, WI for a work trip. Ugh, long bloody drive.

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net> wrote: 

=============
Very nice! I love the P-38s.

BTW, anyone who makes it to Seattle should visit the Museum of Flight
(www.museumofflight.org). They've got a huge collection of planes (here's
the list: http://www.museumofflight.org/Display.asp?Page=airspace).

And it's the only place I know of where you can walk around a Blackbird. For
a plane that doesn't even have weapons, it just looks wicked!

Gordon Glasgow

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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1:31 PM
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Subject: [Roadsters] OT: vintage pics for aircraft buffs

Pics from local (Chino, CA) vintage airshow, 5/17/2008.
http://www.vg-photo.com/airshow/chino2008/kcno2008.html
Enjoy!
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From stl at adnc.com  Wed May 28 09:36:49 2008
From: stl at adnc.com (stl at adnc.com)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 08:36:49 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: vintage pics for aircraft buffs
In-Reply-To: <002301c8c07d$d73e2bc0$85ba8340$@net>
References: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755DB03883@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
	<002301c8c07d$d73e2bc0$85ba8340$@net>
Message-ID: <20080528083649.3ui6hqipkw0kcssk@webmail.americanis.net>

Gordon,

There is a Blackbird at the entrance of the San Diego Air and Space  
Museum in Balboa Park next to a Sea Dart, of all things.  Quite a  
contrast of technologies.  The Blackbird looks wicked indeed.

It is saying something that P-38's still capture the imagination long  
after the advent of jets and moon walks.

Steve Landuyt
'69 2000



Quoting Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>:

> Very nice! I love the P-38s.
>
> BTW, anyone who makes it to Seattle should visit the Museum of Flight
> (www.museumofflight.org). They've got a huge collection of planes (here's
> the list: http://www.museumofflight.org/Display.asp?Page=airspace).
>
> And it's the only place I know of where you can walk around a Blackbird. For
> a plane that doesn't even have weapons, it just looks wicked!
>
> Gordon Glasgow
>


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From RWM at RWMann.com  Wed May 28 10:12:56 2008
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:12:56 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: vintage pics for aircraft buffs
In-Reply-To: <20080528083649.3ui6hqipkw0kcssk@webmail.americanis.net>
References: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755DB03883@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
	<002301c8c07d$d73e2bc0$85ba8340$@net>
	<20080528083649.3ui6hqipkw0kcssk@webmail.americanis.net>
Message-ID: <483D8488.40302@RWMann.com>

There is an A-12 on the deck of the U.S.S. Intrepid -- which NYC hopes 
to get back in a year or so after it is refitted.

Not sure where it originated or its planned route of flight, but late 
Monday afternoon we had a B-17 at about 5,000 feet and climbing out over 
Oyster Bay/Long Island Sound headed roughly north-west. No red fin, so 
it wasn't the Collings airplane "909".  Can't mistake the sound of those 
radials at high power.

 

stl at adnc.com wrote:

>Gordon,
>
>There is a Blackbird at the entrance of the San Diego Air and Space  
>Museum in Balboa Park next to a Sea Dart, of all things.  Quite a  
>contrast of technologies.  The Blackbird looks wicked indeed.
>
>It is saying something that P-38's still capture the imagination long  
>after the advent of jets and moon walks.
>
>Steve Landuyt
>'69 2000
>
>
>
>Quoting Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>:
>
>  
>
>>Very nice! I love the P-38s.
>>
>>BTW, anyone who makes it to Seattle should visit the Museum of Flight
>>(www.museumofflight.org). They've got a huge collection of planes (here's
>>the list: http://www.museumofflight.org/Display.asp?Page=airspace).
>>
>>And it's the only place I know of where you can walk around a Blackbird. For
>>a plane that doesn't even have weapons, it just looks wicked!
>>
>>Gordon Glasgow

From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Wed May 28 10:29:41 2008
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:29:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: vintage pics for aircraft buffs
In-Reply-To: <483D8488.40302@RWMann.com>
Message-ID: <245778.20999.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Those "round motors" sure sound great, but oh! the sound of a Merlin! V-12, 1710 CI... I get shivers down my spine just thinking about it...

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA
(Flashing back to my ride in a P-51 Mustang, 10 years ago - 250 knots IAS, 50 feet off the deck - Sweet Mother of Pearl!)

RWM <RWM at RWMann.com> wrote: There is an A-12 on the deck of the U.S.S. Intrepid -- which NYC hopes 
to get back in a year or so after it is refitted.

Not sure where it originated or its planned route of flight, but late 
Monday afternoon we had a B-17 at about 5,000 feet and climbing out over 
Oyster Bay/Long Island Sound headed roughly north-west. No red fin, so 
it wasn't the Collings airplane "909".  Can't mistake the sound of those 
radials at high power.

 

stl at adnc.com wrote:

>Gordon,
>
>There is a Blackbird at the entrance of the San Diego Air and Space  
>Museum in Balboa Park next to a Sea Dart, of all things.  Quite a  
>contrast of technologies.  The Blackbird looks wicked indeed.
>
>It is saying something that P-38's still capture the imagination long  
>after the advent of jets and moon walks.
>
>Steve Landuyt
>'69 2000
>
>
>
>Quoting Gordon Glasgow :
>
>  
>
>>Very nice! I love the P-38s.
>>
>>BTW, anyone who makes it to Seattle should visit the Museum of Flight
>>(www.museumofflight.org). They've got a huge collection of planes (here's
>>the list: http://www.museumofflight.org/Display.asp?Page=airspace).
>>
>>And it's the only place I know of where you can walk around a Blackbird. For
>>a plane that doesn't even have weapons, it just looks wicked!
>>
>>Gordon Glasgow
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From RWM at RWMann.com  Wed May 28 10:50:05 2008
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:50:05 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: vintage pics for aircraft buffs
In-Reply-To: <245778.20999.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <245778.20999.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <483D8D3D.50506@RWMann.com>

No argument there!  And jealous of your ride...



Gary McCormick wrote:

>Those "round motors" sure sound great, but oh! the sound of a Merlin! V-12, 1710 CI... I get shivers down my spine just thinking about it...
>
>Gary McCormick
>San Jose, CA
>(Flashing back to my ride in a P-51 Mustang, 10 years ago - 250 knots IAS, 50 feet off the deck - Sweet Mother of Pearl!)
>
>RWM <RWM at RWMann.com> wrote: There is an A-12 on the deck of the U.S.S. Intrepid -- which NYC hopes 
>to get back in a year or so after it is refitted.
>
>Not sure where it originated or its planned route of flight, but late 
>Monday afternoon we had a B-17 at about 5,000 feet and climbing out over 
>Oyster Bay/Long Island Sound headed roughly north-west. No red fin, so 
>it wasn't the Collings airplane "909".  Can't mistake the sound of those 
>radials at high power.
>
> 
>
>stl at adnc.com wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Gordon,
>>
>>There is a Blackbird at the entrance of the San Diego Air and Space  
>>Museum in Balboa Park next to a Sea Dart, of all things.  Quite a  
>>contrast of technologies.  The Blackbird looks wicked indeed.
>>
>>It is saying something that P-38's still capture the imagination long  
>>after the advent of jets and moon walks.
>>
>>Steve Landuyt
>>'69 2000
>>
>>
>>
>>Quoting Gordon Glasgow :
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Very nice! I love the P-38s.
>>>
>>>BTW, anyone who makes it to Seattle should visit the Museum of Flight
>>>(www.museumofflight.org). They've got a huge collection of planes (here's
>>>the list: http://www.museumofflight.org/Display.asp?Page=airspace).
>>>
>>>And it's the only place I know of where you can walk around a Blackbird. For
>>>a plane that doesn't even have weapons, it just looks wicked!
>>>
>>>Gordon Glasgow

From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Wed May 28 12:22:43 2008
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 11:22:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: vintage pics for aircraft buffs
In-Reply-To: <483D8488.40302@RWMann.com>
Message-ID: <442489.49099.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

My Dad was a navigator, co-pilot and bombadier on A-26 Douglas Invader. Was remarked B-26 in Korea. Only twin engine bomber that flew combat in WW2, Korea and Vietnam. 
&nbsp;
I just wish I had ever heard the plane run, very fast. 
&nbsp;
Jim

--- On Wed, 5/28/08, RWM &lt;RWM at RWMann.com&gt; wrote:

From: RWM &lt;RWM at RWMann.com&gt;
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: vintage pics for aircraft buffs
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, May 28, 2008, 12:12 PM

There is an A-12 on the deck of the U.S.S. Intrepid -- which NYC hopes 
to get back in a year or so after it is refitted.

Not sure where it originated or its planned route of flight, but late 
Monday afternoon we had a B-17 at about 5,000 feet and climbing out over 
Oyster Bay/Long Island Sound headed roughly north-west. No red fin, so 
it wasn't the Collings airplane "909".  Can't mistake the
sound of those 
radials at high power.

 

stl at adnc.com wrote:

&gt;Gordon,
&gt;
&gt;There is a Blackbird at the entrance of the San Diego Air and Space  
&gt;Museum in Balboa Park next to a Sea Dart, of all things.  Quite a  
&gt;contrast of technologies.  The Blackbird looks wicked indeed.
&gt;
&gt;It is saying something that P-38's still capture the imagination long  
&gt;after the advent of jets and moon walks.
&gt;
&gt;Steve Landuyt
&gt;'69 2000
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;Quoting Gordon Glasgow &lt;gsglasgow at comcast.net&gt;:
&gt;
&gt;  
&gt;
&gt;&gt;Very nice! I love the P-38s.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;BTW, anyone who makes it to Seattle should visit the Museum of Flight
&gt;&gt;(www.museumofflight.org). They've got a huge collection of planes
(here's
&gt;&gt;the list: http://www.museumofflight.org/Display.asp?Page=airspace).
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;And it's the only place I know of where you can walk around a
Blackbird. For
&gt;&gt;a plane that doesn't even have weapons, it just looks wicked!
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Gordon Glasgow
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From davesmbox at aol.com  Wed May 28 13:37:17 2008
From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 15:37:17 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: vintage pics for aircraft buffs
In-Reply-To: <442489.49099.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CA8F115E9B8892-36C-C73@webmail-db06.sysops.aol.com>

There is a flying A-26 named "RUDE INVADER'" Flew out of Hanscom in Bedford Mass about 15 years ago. I managed the reconstruction of runway 11/29. I used to pull up behind him while he was taxi ing.Call him on the ground radio and ask for a ride.?Never got a ride in it though. I did get a ride in the B24 "Dragon and his tail" Trip of a lifetime. Contact Collings Foundation Stowe Ma. They can tell you where the A26 is now.
Dave M


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From: Jim Gammon <gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com>
To: Datsun roadster <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, 28 May 2008 2:22 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: vintage pics for aircraft buffs



My Dad was a navigator, co-pilot and bombadier on A-26 Douglas Invader. Was 
remarked B-26 in Korea. Only twin engine bomber that flew combat in WW2, Korea 
and Vietnam. 
 
I just wish I had ever heard the plane run, very fast. 
 
Jim

--- On Wed, 5/28/08, RWM <RWM at RWMann.com> wrote:

From: RWM <RWM at RWMann.com>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: vintage pics for aircraft buffs
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, May 28, 2008, 12:12 PM

There is an A-12 on the deck of the U.S.S. Intrepid -- which NYC hopes 
to get back in a year or so after it is refitted.

Not sure where it originated or its planned route of flight, but late 
Monday afternoon we had a B-17 at about 5,000 feet and climbing out over 
Oyster Bay/Long Island Sound headed roughly north-west. No red fin, so 
it wasn't the Collings airplane "909".  Can't mistake the
sound of those 
radials at high power.

 

stl at adnc.com wrote:

>Gordon,
>
>There is a Blackbird at the entrance of the San Diego Air and Space  
>Museum in Balboa Park next to a Sea Dart, of all things.  Quite a  
>contrast of technologies.  The Blackbird looks wicked indeed.
>
>It is saying something that P-38's still capture the imagination long  
>after the advent of jets and moon walks.
>
>Steve Landuyt
>'69 2000
>
>
>
>Quoting Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>:
>
>  
>
>>Very nice! I love the P-38s.
>>
>>BTW, anyone who makes it to Seattle should visit the Museum of Flight
>>(www.museumofflight.org). They've got a huge collection of planes
(here's
>>the list: http://www.museumofflight.org/Display.asp?Page=airspace).
>>
>>And it's the only place I know of where you can walk around a
Blackbird. For
>>a plane that doesn't even have weapons, it just looks wicked!
>>
>>Gordon Glasgow
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From fj20spl311 at yahoo.com  Wed May 28 17:23:53 2008
From: fj20spl311 at yahoo.com (philip erickson)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 16:23:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: vintage pics for aircraft buffs
In-Reply-To: <mailman.13959.1211992386.1200.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <824666.85730.qm@web31906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Funny how things go.
  Spend yesterday at the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum....I have been twice and enjoyed it just as must this time.  Back to San Diego soon.
  Phil

From andycost at embarqmail.com  Wed May 28 19:32:43 2008
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 20:32:43 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters]  OT: vintage pics for aircraft buffs
Message-ID: <JBEKJICFFOFCBHHGLNFDKELLDDAA.andycost@embarqmail.com>

The air museum in Ogden, Utah has an SR71 as well as a bunch of other
interesting missiles and stuff.  There was a B52 with a earthmover tire tied
to the end of the wing.  When the wind would blow it would pick up the huge
tire.

Andy

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On Behalf Of philip erickson
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 6:24 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: vintage pics for aircraft buffs


Funny how things go.
  Spend yesterday at the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum....I have
been twice and enjoyed it just as must this time.  Back to San Diego soon.
  Phil

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Wed May 28 22:40:36 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 21:40:36 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: vintage pics for aircraft buffs
In-Reply-To: <245778.20999.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <483D8488.40302@RWMann.com>
	<245778.20999.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002901c8c146$24325910$6c970b30$@net>

Yeah, the Merlins, or even an Allison. I grew up with the sounds of those
engines in the Unlimited hydros out on Lake Washington. There was a reason
they called them "Thunderboats" - the ground would shake when they went by.
The new boats are certainly faster and more high-tech, but calling them
"Thunderboats" is a joke.

And of course, none of that would compare to sitting a few feet behind one
in a Mustang - Yow!

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Gary McCormick
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 9:30 AM
To: RWM; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: vintage pics for aircraft buffs

Those "round motors" sure sound great, but oh! the sound of a Merlin! V-12,
1710 CI... I get shivers down my spine just thinking about it...

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA
(Flashing back to my ride in a P-51 Mustang, 10 years ago - 250 knots IAS,
50 feet off the deck - Sweet Mother of Pearl!)

From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Thu May 29 06:01:10 2008
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 05:01:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] A-26
Message-ID: <379159.65151.qm@web51111.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I have flown in Collin's B-24 and B-17
&nbsp;
Their A-26 is under restoration, I'm wating....
&nbsp;
JimG
&nbsp;
&nbsp;A-26 Invader, under restoration in Uvalde, TX, will be one of the few of its type to wear its original markings as "My Mary Lou" an A-26 that fought in Korea from 1953-56.
&nbsp;
&nbsp;
There is a flying A-26 named "RUDE INVADER'" Flew out of Hanscom in Bedford Mass about 15 years ago. I managed the reconstruction of runway 11/29. I used to pull up behind him while he was taxi ing.Call him on the ground radio and ask for a ride.&nbsp;Never got a ride in it though. I did get a ride in the B24 "Dragon and his tail" Trip of a lifetime. Contact Collings Foundation Stowe Ma. They can tell you where the A26 is now.
Dave M

From stebharvey at ameritech.net  Thu May 29 07:11:32 2008
From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (steb)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:11:32 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] SR-71
Message-ID: <000001c8c18d$84f9c4d0$0574fea9@steb1>

I was at Kadina AFB with my P-3 squadron (VP-60) back in the 80's. Our
hanger was next to the SR-71 hanger and we would watch them taxi past us
as we worked on the flight line. We were told by the Air Force that if
we took a picture of the aircraft we would be arrested and our camera
would be taken away and not returned. As it taxied past you could see
the fuel running out of the wing panels which was a little unsettling.
They had a red line painted in front of the SR-71 hanger and if you
crossed over that line the guards had the right to shoot you and then
ask questions. The funny thing is that with all of the security, the
following weekend they had an open house and allowed anyone to approach
the aircraft and even climb a ladder platform and view the cockpit. Of
course the follow Monday security was again in place and you couldn't
get close. There's nothing like watching an SR-71 make a high speed
takeoff. Gone in 30 seconds!
 
Steve Harvey

From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Thu May 29 09:05:00 2008
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 10:05:00 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 69 2000 part car FS in Sacto, CA, pics sent
Message-ID: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755DB2DB43@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>

Ref previous message below.

I asked the seller for pics, and he sent them (1 meg each, 6 pics total)
In summary:
Looks complete parts wise.  Repairable dents in body panels, but rust in
dents, has had an engine fire and then sat for a while, tattered round
hole hardtop.
Previously crashed into something hard and flat, and hood has been bent
back out.

I can fwd the pics.  I'll delete them by Tuesday if no one is
interested.

______
> This popped up on Craigslist in LA this weekend, car is in Sacramento.
> 1969 Datsun 2000 Roadster. Needs restoration or part out. Does not
> run. It has a hard top. Will send pictures if interested. $1800 OBO.
______

From bubwin at mts.net  Thu May 29 09:30:51 2008
From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 10:30:51 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: vintage pics for aircraft buffs
In-Reply-To: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755DB03883@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
References: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755DB03883@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
Message-ID: <4655DFD7F5EC46DE92D25A2F610BC6E2@ownerPC>

My dad had a cousin in the USAF.  Although they knew of each other,it wasn't 
until about 8 years ago that my dad finally tracked him down.  They spoke on 
the phone, and e-mailed regularly, and in 2003, my parents were invited to 
visit, and drove down from Winnipeg, Manitoba to Oregon, where cousin George 
lived.  George reminisced about his career, (WWII 2.5 kills, and Korea 8 
kills included) and brought out all his log books.  If I recall, George had 
some 25,000 + hours flying in over 225 different aircraft.

At one point George went on an exchange with the US Navy, flying off a 
Carrier, and apparently ticked off the Navy pilots, by having over 200 
landings over 6 or so months, and catching the 3rd wire on every one of 
them.  A replica of his F86 Sabre is on a pedestal at the US Air Base in 
Spain, where he was Squadron Commander at one time.  Lack of a University 
degree kept him out of the Space Program.

Long story short, I love to see the F86's.  The attached link takes you to a 
pic of his plane, where the drawing shows all 8 kills, and the photo at the 
bottom was taken when he had 4.  The 3 yellow stripes in front of the 
cockpit designated him as the Squadron Commander.  George is still with us 
and is in his late 80's.

Bob Winslade
1966-1600 Missy
1967-1600 Bender


http://www.humboldt1.com/~outcast26/KoreaEraWar.htm
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" <Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 3:31 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: vintage pics for aircraft buffs


> Pics from local (Chino, CA) vintage airshow, 5/17/2008.
> http://www.vg-photo.com/airshow/chino2008/kcno2008.html
> Enjoy!
> Fergus O
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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Thu May 29 10:59:04 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 12:59:04 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: vintage pics for aircraft buffs
In-Reply-To: <4655DFD7F5EC46DE92D25A2F610BC6E2@ownerPC>
References: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755DB03883@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
	<4655DFD7F5EC46DE92D25A2F610BC6E2@ownerPC>
Message-ID: <000501c8c1ad$4e9af420$ebd0dc60$@net>

  I spent 3+ years floating the Atlantic with Uncle Sam onboard USS America
CVA66.  Watched way too many launches and landing of F4J Phantoms, A6E
Intruders, A7C Corsairs, RA5C Vigilantes, EA6B Prowlers, E2B Hawkeyes, and a
few others.  I had the pleasure(?) of launching once off the deck without a
catapult and once with.  Thankfully I only had to land once onboard.  I
think the "arresting" cable & hooks are named for the cardiac arrest they
cause on landing!
  The rest of the time I spent below the waterline working A/C and
refrigeration.  I spent way too much time in airports flying from home
(Ohio) to O'Hara for boot and training and then back and forth to Norfolk
while stationed on the America.  I've only flown twice since getting out
over 30 years ago.  Now a days, I'd rather drive.  Preferably in a roadster!

MANDATORY ROADSTER CONTENT
  Now if I can just finish staining the house, then I can get some new tires
and start driving mine again.

Paul
Ohio

From dpphilbin at comcast.net  Thu May 29 11:22:22 2008
From: dpphilbin at comcast.net (dpphilbin at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 17:22:22 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Free Admission to Wine Country Classic and Datsun
 Corral at Infineon Raceway this weekend
Message-ID: <052920081722.29206.483EE64E0009C8FC00007216221656627602070D0407089F9F0B@comcast.net>

Infineon Raceway is now offering free admission to this weekend's Wine County Classic and entry into the Datsun Corral for the first 15 Datsun owners that contact Marc Holmes at 707.933.3955. 

The event is this coming weekend May 31st - June 1st.  

Details can be found at:  http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/major_events/wcc/

This is an awesome event and a great opportunity to represent Datsun. 

The corral is on smooth pavement and will be limited to classic Datsuns. Please feel free to contact your 510 or Z buddies with this offer. 

We want to see as many Datsuns out there as possible. 

Details can be found at 

Thanks, 

Dan

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From ricksrl at yahoo.com  Thu May 29 13:28:37 2008
From: ricksrl at yahoo.com (Rick Stayner)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 12:28:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Alignment Specs
Message-ID: <563605.45702.qm@web63706.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Anyone have any input on the following front end alignment specs taken from an old Chilton's repair manual?
   
  Toe-in 1/16-1/8"
  Caster 1 degree 30'
  Camber 1 degree 25'
  Kingpin inclination 6 degrees 35'
  Turn Angle, in 36 degrees 16'
                  out 29 degrees 20'
   
  Car is a 1969 SRL, street use only. No Comp springs or any other trickery.
   
  Thanks!
   
  Rick Stayner
  69 2000
  Harrisburg, Pa

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu May 29 13:48:02 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 19:48:02 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Alignment Specs
Message-ID: <052920081948.26403.483F0872000B8498000067232200737478CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

>From the list archives from Senor Glasgow):

> For spirited street driving, try:
>
> 1 degree negative camber
> 2 to 3 degrees positive caster
> 1/16 to 1/8" toe-in. 

>From Leigh on the 311s.org forums:

Here's what I ended up with on my '69 2000:

camber: left -1.21 degrees, right -1.12 degrees
caster: left 3.45 degrees, right 3.46 degrees
toe-in: left 1mm, right 1mm

<http://www.shiftco.com/features/zippy/zippy_057.html>

This was Gordon Glasgow's recommendation for an aggressive, auto-x alignment. The shop had to put in longer bolts to get it to this. I'm running 195/60R14 Yokohama AVS Es100's on 5.5" 240Z wheels.

Turn in is nice and sharp, but the low speed steering is a bit heavy.

HTH.

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Rick Stayner <ricksrl at yahoo.com>
> Anyone have any input on the following front end alignment specs taken from an 
> old Chilton's repair manual?
>    
>   Toe-in 1/16-1/8"
>   Caster 1 degree 30'
>   Camber 1 degree 25'
>   Kingpin inclination 6 degrees 35'
>   Turn Angle, in 36 degrees 16'
>                   out 29 degrees 20'
>    
>   Car is a 1969 SRL, street use only. No Comp springs or any other trickery.
>    
>   Thanks!
>    
>   Rick Stayner
>   69 2000
>   Harrisburg, Pa
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From ricksrl at yahoo.com  Thu May 29 13:56:33 2008
From: ricksrl at yahoo.com (Rick Stayner)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 12:56:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Rear Brake Drum
Message-ID: <939527.34453.qm@web63704.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Anyone in local or semi-local have a rear brake drum they could part with? Car is a 69 SRL. I'm in central PA.
  Also anyone have the minimum diameter for a rear brake drum? All I can find is instruction not to remove more than .040
  Sure wish I hadn't pitched those extra drums when I moved.
   
  Rick Stayner
  69 2000
  Harrisburg, Pa

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Thu May 29 15:20:56 2008
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 16:20:56 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] slightly off topic
References: <052920081722.29206.483EE64E0009C8FC00007216221656627602070D0407089F9F0B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <004601c8c1d2$2a9a0910$8115a8c0@garage.local>

well, i didn't think it would really happen.  a friend's boyfriend had a 
2003 350z nismo that he's been trying to sell for about a year.  he wanted 
way too much for it.  i gave them a lowball offer some time ago, and kept 
repeating it.

now i own it . . .

steel gray, 34k miles, immaculate.

roadster content:  it won't get to sit in the garage because the roadster 
and others have dibs.  but its in the semi enclosed carport for sure! 

From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Thu May 29 16:01:53 2008
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 15:01:53 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] FedEx right on time? Not This Time!
Message-ID: <b0b0059f0805291501l63d774c2x45401a1db064c169@mail.gmail.com>

Last October I replaced my Dash and was looking for the Black Twisties to
put in it. Many responded with the usual alternative suggestions and some
with gracious offers. One person gave me a couple and I want to thank him. I
just got them TODAY! The problem is the FedEx package says they were mailed
out on October 24 2007. They just arrived today by FedEx.
It has been so long I do not remember who sent them, all the package says is
JCK with an address in Oakland.
So If JCK in Oakland is reading this, THANK YOU! In my case better late then
never, they are still needed.

-- 
'66 1600
Riverside, CA
------------------------------------------------------
This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one.

If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky
enough.

From joek at camberconstruction.com  Thu May 29 16:21:20 2008
From: joek at camberconstruction.com (Joe Kinstle)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 15:21:20 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] FedEx right on time? Not This Time!
In-Reply-To: <b0b0059f0805291501l63d774c2x45401a1db064c169@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b0b0059f0805291501l63d774c2x45401a1db064c169@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002401c8c1da$52b9d1c0$020fa8c0@lapjoek>

I'm a JCK in Oakland, so it was probably me, though I don't really remember
sending them either.  As they say, enjoy the ride.

Joe Kinstle
'68 2L
BLK SRL

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Chris & Christy Breyer
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 3:02 PM
To: Autox (E-mail)
Subject: [Roadsters] FedEx right on time? Not This Time!

Last October I replaced my Dash and was looking for the Black Twisties to
put in it. Many responded with the usual alternative suggestions and some
with gracious offers. One person gave me a couple and I want to thank him. I
just got them TODAY! The problem is the FedEx package says they were mailed
out on October 24 2007. They just arrived today by FedEx.
It has been so long I do not remember who sent them, all the package says is
JCK with an address in Oakland.
So If JCK in Oakland is reading this, THANK YOU! In my case better late then
never, they are still needed.

-- 
'66 1600
Riverside, CA
------------------------------------------------------
This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one.

If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky
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From oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com  Thu May 29 17:33:39 2008
From: oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com (Matthew Cox)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 16:33:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] FedEx right on time? Not This Time!
In-Reply-To: <b0b0059f0805291501l63d774c2x45401a1db064c169@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <633079.64632.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Wow!  Did that package spend some time on a desert island with a volleyball named "Wilson?"
   
  Matthew in Phoenix 

Chris & Christy Breyer <fairlady66 at gmail.com> wrote:
  Last October I replaced my Dash and was looking for the Black Twisties to
put in it. Many responded with the usual alternative suggestions and some
with gracious offers. One person gave me a couple and I want to thank him. I
just got them TODAY! The problem is the FedEx package says they were mailed
out on October 24 2007. They just arrived today by FedEx.
It has been so long I do not remember who sent them, all the package says is
JCK with an address in Oakland.
So If JCK in Oakland is reading this, THANK YOU! In my case better late then
never, they are still needed.

-- 
'66 1600
Riverside, CA
------------------------------------------------------
This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one.

If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky
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From les at classicdatsun.com  Fri May 30 02:29:17 2008
From: les at classicdatsun.com (Les Cannaday)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 01:29:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Planes and other cool stuff....
Message-ID: <921662.43278.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Speaking of planes on the way back from the Motoring J Style show down near Livermore, we were treated to the Collins Foundation Planes all in the air giving rides. As we were still coming south on 580 they were headed north the B-24 was first and the B-25 was second and the B-17 was third in line and we thought that they were headed somewhere else but got surprised as we headed east towards Livermore as they came in to land right next to the freeway as we drove by. Of course we had just seen all 3 planes 2 weeks ago in Carlsbad when we were going to go catch a ride in couple of them but they were pretty booked up.

On another note I am happy to announce that several new projects long in the works are now ready. We have just finished the new fiberglass trunk lids for both racing or street cars and we are still trying to finish the original factory hardtops sometime very soon. The other new parts are primarily for race cars but some are interchangeable for your street car as well.


  We now have new chrome molly race axles custom made for the Roadster and along the same lines we have remade the axle baffles for the rear diff housing to keep the oil around the LSD unit. We have made a mold of the original BRE racing seat that was used in the 510 and Z cars and possible the Roadster. but I do not think so. We have also made the patterns for the early version racing oil pans that do not hang down below the chassis as much as the aluminum pans and this pan is one of only 6 ever made originally and we can now make them. We also did some fun stuff such as stickers for your block off plates on turn signals and headlights that look exactly like the original lights they replace. I got tired of seeing Japanese cars with horrible Lucas headlight blockoff stickers so I made our Toshiba headlights for our blockoffs. Just a little fun stuff for the detail on our cars.

Take care



  Les 



Les Cannaday
Classic Datsun Motorsports
345 Olive Ave
Vista, CA  92083
(760)940-6365
(866)288-8340 fax

From aiken1315 at bellsouth.net  Fri May 30 05:20:09 2008
From: aiken1315 at bellsouth.net (aiken1315 at bellsouth.net)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:20:09 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Any Austin, TX June Get Togethers?
Message-ID: <053020081120.16956.483FE2E9000507B10000423C22243651029B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFCACECCCE020A05070E@att.net>

I am driving my roadster tomorrow from SC to Austin to work for 3 weeks.  Is there anything planned in that area the next 3 weeks for a roadster get together?

Thanks
David

From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net  Fri May 30 09:00:42 2008
From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 08:00:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Any Austin, TX June Get Togethers?
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Message-ID: <17467.78331.qm@web81705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The weekend of June 20-22 is the Datsun/Nissan Z party being hosted in Austin, TX.
   
  http://www.texaszparty.com/
   
  http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c174/datsun65/finalshirt.jpg
   
  The flyer even has a roadster & 510 on it :)
   
  Dan Zubkoff
  Houston, TX

aiken1315 at bellsouth.net wrote:
  I am driving my roadster tomorrow from SC to Austin to work for 3 weeks. Is there anything planned in that area the next 3 weeks for a roadster get together?

Thanks
David
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From ktmaustin at sbcglobal.net  Fri May 30 09:04:05 2008
From: ktmaustin at sbcglobal.net (Kevin McDonald)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 10:04:05 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Any Austin, TX June Get Togethers?
References: <053020081120.16956.483FE2E9000507B10000423C22243651029B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFCACECCCE020A05070E@att.net>
Message-ID: <022501c8c266$683dc330$7c0110ac@ktmlt2>

Haven't heard of anything in Austin in the last few years.
I sold my roadster to a guy who lives north of San Francisco last year.
Make sure your cooling system is in good shape.
Summer is here...
Kevin

p.s. If you come June 14-15 it will be the ROT rally and there will be 
50,000 Harley people here.
They go really slow...

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From: <aiken1315 at bellsouth.net>
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Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 6:20 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Any Austin, TX June Get Togethers?


>I am driving my roadster tomorrow from SC to Austin to work for 3 weeks. 
>Is there anything planned in that area the next 3 weeks for a roadster get 
>together?
>
> Thanks
> David

From ktmaustin at sbcglobal.net  Fri May 30 11:04:52 2008
From: ktmaustin at sbcglobal.net (Kevin McDonald)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 12:04:52 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Any Austin, TX June Get Togethers?
References: <17467.78331.qm@web81705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <023e01c8c277$47f20800$7c0110ac@ktmlt2>

Pace Bend is a nice Texas Hill Country type of park.
Bring your swim suit a bucket of SPF 50!
Glad to see the Datsuns are still going strong around Austin.
Kevin

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Zubkoff" <zubkoff at sbcglobal.net>
To: <aiken1315 at bellsouth.net>; "datsun-roadsters" 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Any Austin, TX June Get Togethers?


> The weekend of June 20-22 is the Datsun/Nissan Z party being hosted in 
> Austin, TX.
>
>  http://www.texaszparty.com/
>
>  http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c174/datsun65/finalshirt.jpg
>
>  The flyer even has a roadster & 510 on it :)
>
>  Dan Zubkoff
>  Houston, TX
>
> aiken1315 at bellsouth.net wrote:
>  I am driving my roadster tomorrow from SC to Austin to work for 3 weeks. 
> Is there anything planned in that area the next 3 weeks for a roadster get 
> together?
>
> Thanks
> David
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From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Fri May 30 18:53:58 2008
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 17:53:58 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Idle on a R series stroker?
Message-ID: <001a01c8c2b8$cffc7960$6500a8c0@Daryl>

I have got the idle down to ~850 rpm on my stroker. There is a miss I have
been fighting with, thinking it was a tuning/software/fueling issue.
Cam is 270* advertised, 224* @ .050" so I SHOULD be able to get it to 700 -
750 rpm.

With some work the last couple of days it looks like it might be a hardware
issue with the ignition. I'll have to go over my wiring and check the runout
on my crank trigger.

BUT, I was wondering what other people are getting for an idle with their
stroker engines? There is someone else up here that thinks they also have a
270* cam, with a little more valve lift, whose idle is over 1000 rpm........

Anyone getting an idle in the 700 - 800 rpm range?

Daryl
'66 1800cc stroker, EFI, EDIS ignition.

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Fri May 30 21:42:03 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 23:42:03 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Any Austin, TX June Get Togethers?
In-Reply-To: <023e01c8c277$47f20800$7c0110ac@ktmlt2>
References: <17467.78331.qm@web81705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<023e01c8c277$47f20800$7c0110ac@ktmlt2>
Message-ID: <8CA90E76C5D4E17-65C-183F@webmail-nb03.sysops.aol.com>

 I'll bet you guys have some killer barbeque in Texas

Linda


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin McDonald <ktmaustin at sbcglobal.net>
To: datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, 30 May 2008 10:04 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Any Austin, TX June Get Togethers?










Pace Bend is a nice Texas Hill Country type of park.
Bring your swim suit a bucket of SPF 50!
Glad to see the Datsuns are still going strong around Austin.
Kevin

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Zubkoff" <zubkoff at sbcglobal.net>
To: <aiken1315 at bellsouth.net>; "datsun-roadsters" 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Any Austin, TX June Get Togethers?


> The weekend of June 20-22 is the Datsun/Nissan Z party being hosted in 
> Austin, TX.
>
>  http://www.texaszparty.com/
>
>  http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c174/datsun65/finalshirt.jpg
>
>  The flyer even has a roadster & 510 on it :)
>
>  Dan Zubkoff
>  Houston, TX
>
> aiken1315 at bellsouth.net wrote:
>  I am driving my roadster tomorrow from SC to Austin to work for 3 weeks. 
> Is there anything planned in that area the next 3 weeks for a roadster get 
> together?
>
> Thanks
> David
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From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Fri May 30 22:06:41 2008
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 23:06:41 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Any Austin, TX June Get Togethers?
References: <17467.78331.qm@web81705.mail.mud.yahoo.com><023e01c8c277$47f20800$7c0110ac@ktmlt2>
	<8CA90E76C5D4E17-65C-183F@webmail-nb03.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <001d01c8c2d3$fe197b70$8115a8c0@garage.local>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Any Austin, TX June Get Togethers?


> I'll bet you guys have some killer barbeque in Texas
> 
> Linda
> 
> 
> 
yeah.  strokes.  heart attacks.  the usual

From escanlon at wa-net.com  Fri May 30 22:37:38 2008
From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 21:37:38 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Any Austin, TX June Get Togethers?
References: <17467.78331.qm@web81705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<023e01c8c277$47f20800$7c0110ac@ktmlt2>
Message-ID: <002601c8c2d8$0e5fc120$0300a8c0@HPW>

Did I misunderstand something?

"Bring your swimsuit .. A BUCKET OF SPF 50!"

Meaning, the only thing you need to go swimming is some sunscreen?

Dang, you boys in Texas sure do put up a heck of a Bar-B-Que!!

Just how many lady types will be attending? 
I'll drive down from Washington State!

E


> Pace Bend is a nice Texas Hill Country type of park.
> Bring your swim suit a bucket of SPF 50!
> Glad to see the Datsuns are still going strong around Austin.
> Kevin

From rabush2000 at hotmail.com  Fri May 30 22:39:26 2008
From: rabush2000 at hotmail.com (Richard Bush)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 08:39:26 +0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Any Austin, TX June Get Togethers?
In-Reply-To: <001d01c8c2d3$fe197b70$8115a8c0@garage.local>
Message-ID: <BAY129-DAV1327140D23BC0A8671C424D2B90@phx.gbl>

If you do get to Austin, on 620 not far from the lake and the Backyard
(Steve Miller and Joe Cocker are there this weekend), try Rosie's for fajita
or Busters for great BBC.


On 31/5/08 08:06, "Oliver" <sumton at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
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> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Any Austin, TX June Get Togethers?
> 
> 
>> I'll bet you guys have some killer barbeque in Texas
>> 
>> Linda
>> 
>> 
>> 
> yeah.  strokes.  heart attacks.  the usual
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From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Sat May 31 06:25:49 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 08:25:49 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch problem
Message-ID: <E1K2Q9Y-0007fj-7T@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi everyone,

I sure wish you guys would stop talking about car problems! HAHAHAHA! 

Monday I saw a thread beginning about clutch hydraulics problems. Friday, I
lost my clutch hydraulics. I put in fluid, it disappeared. I put in more
fluid, it disappeared. It ended up on the ground. I'm about to go outside
figure out why. Does anyone know of an "alternate" clutch fluid hose part?
Like, what car I can ask the guy at the parts desk for? I need info like. a
1980 210 or something? I am only HOPING it's that, at this point. I can
"patch" a hose to make it usable until I get a part from a vendor if I have
to. Driving home 4 miles in first gear yesterday SUCKED! THAT wasn't as bad
as taking off from stoplights, starting in gear and letting the engine catch
then killing the engine at the next red light. Not good for the starter,
flywheel gear, battery, etc. 

Matt

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Sat May 31 06:30:16 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 08:30:16 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Any Austin, TX June Get Togethers?
Message-ID: <d0f.2c42b9b9.35729ed8@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/30/2008 9:22:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time,  
sumton at sbcglobal.net writes:


>  I'll bet you guys have some killer barbeque in Texas
> 
>  Linda
> 
> 
> 
yeah.  strokes.  heart  attacks.  the usual



Then there was that movie "Fried Green Tomatoes", "The secrets in the  
sause".......
 
keith



**************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with 
Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.      
(http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

From conner_a at comcast.net  Sat May 31 06:31:36 2008
From: conner_a at comcast.net (Andrew Conner)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 08:31:36 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Any Austin, TX June Get Togethers?
In-Reply-To: <BAY129-DAV1327140D23BC0A8671C424D2B90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <GAECJDADOAHAKPLGADNHIEGOCLAA.conner_a@comcast.net>

The best place for breakfast tacos is a little stand called Didi's out west
on 1431 on the edge of Lago Vista.  Can't get those on the east coast!
And if you are downtown the pulled pork sandwhich at Stubb's BBQ is beyond
description.

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+conner_a=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+conner_a=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Richard Bush
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 12:39 AM
To: Oliver; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Any Austin, TX June Get Togethers?


If you do get to Austin, on 620 not far from the lake and the Backyard
(Steve Miller and Joe Cocker are there this weekend), try Rosie's for fajita
or Busters for great BBC.


On 31/5/08 08:06, "Oliver" <sumton at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 10:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Any Austin, TX June Get Togethers?
>
>
>> I'll bet you guys have some killer barbeque in Texas
>>
>> Linda
>>
>>
>>
> yeah.  strokes.  heart attacks.  the usual
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From Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com  Sat May 31 06:35:46 2008
From: Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com (Pat)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 07:35:46 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Any Austin, TX June Get Togethers?
In-Reply-To: <002601c8c2d8$0e5fc120$0300a8c0@HPW>
References: <17467.78331.qm@web81705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<023e01c8c277$47f20800$7c0110ac@ktmlt2>
	<002601c8c2d8$0e5fc120$0300a8c0@HPW>
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Actually, at Pace Bend Park it used to be fine to wear just SPF50 I 
haven't been out there in years, but I believe hippy hollow is still 
clothing optional.

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake E Scanlon:
> Did I misunderstand something?
>
> "Bring your swimsuit .. A BUCKET OF SPF 50!"
>
> Meaning, the only thing you need to go swimming is some sunscreen?
>
> Dang, you boys in Texas sure do put up a heck of a Bar-B-Que!!
>
> Just how many lady types will be attending? 
> I'll drive down from Washington State!
>
> E
>
>
>   
>> Pace Bend is a nice Texas Hill Country type of park.
>> Bring your swim suit a bucket of SPF 50!
>> Glad to see the Datsuns are still going strong around Austin.
>> Kevin
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From Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com  Sat May 31 06:41:24 2008
From: Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com (Pat)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 07:41:24 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Any Austin, TX June Get Togethers?
In-Reply-To: <BAY129-DAV1327140D23BC0A8671C424D2B90@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY129-DAV1327140D23BC0A8671C424D2B90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <48414774.9080201@HorneSystemsTx.com>

I live about 30 miles south of Austin in the BBQ capital of Texas (as 
declared by the legislature), Lockhart. With a population of just over 
11,000, we have 4 BBQ places, the "new guy in town" has been here for 
about 25 years. Another one over 100 years.

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Richard Bush:
> If you do get to Austin, on 620 not far from the lake and the Backyard
> (Steve Miller and Joe Cocker are there this weekend), try Rosie's for fajita
> or Busters for great BBC.
>
>
> On 31/5/08 08:06, "Oliver" <sumton at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>   
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
>> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 10:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Any Austin, TX June Get Togethers?
>>
>>
>>     
>>> I'll bet you guys have some killer barbeque in Texas
>>>
>>> Linda
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> yeah.  strokes.  heart attacks.  the usual
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From rabush2000 at hotmail.com  Sat May 31 07:23:39 2008
From: rabush2000 at hotmail.com (Richard Bush)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 17:23:39 +0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Any Austin, TX June Get Togethers?
In-Reply-To: <GAECJDADOAHAKPLGADNHIEGOCLAA.conner_a@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY129-DAV92961CDE006012FF1178FD2B90@phx.gbl>

Breakfast in Austin used to be at Cisco's on east 5th. Sadly, Cisco passed
away a few years ago. Haven't been there since, but I do have the t-shirt



On 31/5/08 16:31, "Andrew Conner" <conner_a at comcast.net> wrote:

> The best place for breakfast tacos is a little stand called Didi's out west
> on 1431 on the edge of Lago Vista.  Can't get those on the east coast!
> And if you are downtown the pulled pork sandwhich at Stubb's BBQ is beyond
> description.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+conner_a=comcast.net at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+conner_a=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Richard Bush
> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 12:39 AM
> To: Oliver; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Any Austin, TX June Get Togethers?
> 
> 
> If you do get to Austin, on 620 not far from the lake and the Backyard
> (Steve Miller and Joe Cocker are there this weekend), try Rosie's for fajita
> or Busters for great BBC.
> 
> 
> On 31/5/08 08:06, "Oliver" <sumton at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
>> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 10:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Any Austin, TX June Get Togethers?
>> 
>> 
>>> I'll bet you guys have some killer barbeque in Texas
>>> 
>>> Linda
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> yeah.  strokes.  heart attacks.  the usual
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From fergus06 at socal.rr.com  Sat May 31 07:54:43 2008
From: fergus06 at socal.rr.com (Fergus OFarrell)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 06:54:43 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] clutch hose problem
Message-ID: <002f01c8c325$e1795290$e5bb1e18@fergus031a2176>

Matt,
if your flex hose has burst, and brake lines are any indication, all later
Datsuns starting from the 510 (68/69) went to metric end fittings, so they are
not a swap-out part.   You didn't mention the year/model of your car.
If you take your existing hose to a industrial hydraulic hose vendor, they can
usually make one in 20 minutes or so, either with new end fittings or using
your old ones (sometimes).
Of course our vendors have them too, and ship pronto.

the "start the car in gear" routine is hard on things, but you can shift out
of first gear, you just have to "match speeds", which results in a little
grinding while you are learning, but you get better pretty quickly.

From aultgc at att.net  Sat May 31 08:05:34 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 07:05:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch problem
Message-ID: <182339.1632.qm@web83819.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Matt,
Owing to the high pressures generated by the master cylinders, I know of
no way to patch a hydraulic hose.
Is your problem the hose, or the seal in the
slave cylinder?  I have found seal failure to be more common than hose
failure, but I'm just one data point.
Gary

----- Original Message ----
From:
Matthew A. Smith <matthews517 at earthlink.net>
To:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 7:25:49 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch problem

Hi everyone,

I sure wish you guys would
stop talking about car problems! HAHAHAHA! 

Monday I saw a thread beginning
about clutch hydraulics problems. Friday, I
lost my clutch hydraulics. I put
in fluid, it disappeared. I put in more
fluid, it disappeared. It ended up on
the ground. I'm about to go outside
figure out why. Does anyone know of an
"alternate" clutch fluid hose part?
Like, what car I can ask the guy at the
parts desk for? I need info like. a
1980 210 or something? I am only HOPING
it's that, at this point. I can
"patch" a hose to make it usable until I get a
part from a vendor if I have
to. Driving home 4 miles in first gear yesterday
SUCKED! THAT wasn't as bad
as taking off from stoplights, starting in gear and
letting the engine catch
then killing the engine at the next red light. Not
good for the starter,
flywheel gear, battery, etc. 

Matt
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From jhaun_1 at charter.net  Sat May 31 12:32:55 2008
From: jhaun_1 at charter.net (James Haun)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 11:32:55 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Off Topic a little but
Message-ID: <001201c8c34c$be9adc90$77017444@JIM22CA86D5C4>

I am parting out a 79 210 wagon that had 1750 miles on it. Don't have body.
Have complete drivetrain, suspension, wheels and tires, brake parts,
windshield. Etc. Asking $700 for all. I just couldn't bring myself to crush
the parts along with the body. 

 

Roadster Content: The weather is currently in the mid 70's and my 64 3 seat
roadster in my garage is patiently waiting for me to get off my rear and
take her out for a spin today and if the weather holds, may turn in to a
week long spin. 

 

Have a Roadster Day! 

From andycost at embarqmail.com  Sat May 31 15:13:31 2008
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (andycost at embarqmail.com)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 17:13:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Parts on craigslist
Message-ID: <170819001.14101212268411554.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>

http://dallas.craigslist.org/pts/689195393.html

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Sat May 31 16:41:57 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 18:41:57 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] clutch hose problem
In-Reply-To: <002f01c8c325$e1795290$e5bb1e18@fergus031a2176>
Message-ID: <E1K2Zlo-0005hV-Fw@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Thank you Everyone,
It was the hose. I've got a brass barbed fitting and some hose clamps, so I
may try to piece it together just to get to a hydraulic hose place on
Monday. It doesn't actually seem like it's in bad shape. Not as bad as my
brake hoses were before I replaced them. If I can't find a hose place, I'll
be calling Dean on Monday. :-)
Thanks again!
Matt
And Loreli (She's a 1970 SRL-311 Solex)

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Fergus OFarrell
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 9:55 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] clutch hose problem

Matt,
if your flex hose has burst, and brake lines are any indication, all later
Datsuns starting from the 510 (68/69) went to metric end fittings, so they
are
not a swap-out part.   You didn't mention the year/model of your car.
If you take your existing hose to a industrial hydraulic hose vendor, they
can
usually make one in 20 minutes or so, either with new end fittings or using
your old ones (sometimes).
Of course our vendors have them too, and ship pronto.

the "start the car in gear" routine is hard on things, but you can shift out
of first gear, you just have to "match speeds", which results in a little
grinding while you are learning, but you get better pretty quickly.