From d-solomon at comcast.net Sun Jun 1 08:54:57 2008 From: d-solomon at comcast.net (Daniel Solomon) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:54:57 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] how do i unsubscribe? Message-ID: <4842B841.50408@comcast.net> i sent a "unsubscribe" subject line, but nothing happened. thanks. From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sun Jun 1 09:12:18 2008 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 08:12:18 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] how do i unsubscribe? In-Reply-To: <4842B841.50408@comcast.net> Message-ID: <628F55FF872147AC8C6EF819003C2CA8@xp> Dan, If you go to the link at the bottom of each email: and then go to the bottom of that webpage and click the "Unsubscribe or edit options" button, it'll take you to the Unsubscribe page. HTH. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daniel Solomon Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 7:55 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] how do i unsubscribe? i sent a "unsubscribe" subject line, but nothing happened. thanks. Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From Walter.Peterson at cox.net Sun Jun 1 14:02:39 2008 From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter Peterson) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 13:02:39 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Idle on a R series stroker? & 2 part numbers. References: <001a01c8c2b8$cffc7960$6500a8c0@Daryl> Message-ID: <000001c8c422$72040f60$560c2e20$@Peterson@cox.net> Hey Daryl, I've been lurking for a while with no time write in. I've moved, etc. As you may recall, I've got a big cam 1600/2000bstroker too and an 850 idle is about the best I can get. My acceptance & reasoning is that big-short pulses of air on the fat idle/cruise jets of the 44 Solexes makes it hard to be smooth at any low idle RPMs. Also my timing is at 18 to 20 at idle with no vacuum advance plate to jitter around (was a new distributor 30k miles ago and 38 Max timing is in by 2300-3800, I forget). Anyhow, if you have Fuel injection or a good pair of SU's & a distributorless ignition you could drop it into the range you're looking for, but otherwise I think you've arrived at optimum already. OT: Ages ago I was going to get you the 3-main 2000 crank PN# which is 12200-34201 & the Virgin R16 aluminum, SAE threads, no smog ports head; we started with was PN# 11041-146603. When Nissan competition sold these to me, the crank supposedly was the 3rd one in existence in the US and that this was the "Cheater crank" that made the early 1600 Roadster SCCA competitive. The Head was pure joy for my engine builder to port up and match to the (rare?) factory 1600/44mm sidedraft manifold. The head got the works: welded closed chambers, Bigger Valves, new narrowed harder seats, shorter slender guides, custom valve springs & retainers. Big fun with a vintage look. Today for the same money, I'd buy a late model motor & trans to drop in. Who could argue with better MPGs & a smoother running drive train? Walt Peterson Goleta CA 1600/2000R -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daryl Smith Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 5:54 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] Idle on a R series stroker? I have got the idle down to ~850 rpm on my stroker. There is a miss I have been fighting with, thinking it was a tuning/software/fueling issue. Cam is 270* advertised, 224* @ .050" so I SHOULD be able to get it to 700 - 750 rpm. With some work the last couple of days it looks like it might be a hardware issue with the ignition. I'll have to go over my wiring and check the runout on my crank trigger. BUT, I was wondering what other people are getting for an idle with their stroker engines? There is someone else up here that thinks they also have a 270* cam, with a little more valve lift, whose idle is over 1000 rpm........ Anyone getting an idle in the 700 - 800 rpm range? Daryl '66 1800cc stroker, EFI, EDIS ignition. You are subscribed as walter.peterson at cox.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Mon Jun 2 08:25:40 2008 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 09:25:40 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Pic compilation from Irvine, CA morning car show Message-ID: Here's the pic compilation. Careful, large pic site, will kill ya on dial-up. http://carsandcoffee.info/forum/showthread.php?t=728 Roadster content: maroon '66 Nova is our own Tim Miner's "other resto", I think. It is "bonestock" and an incredibly detailed example of it. (his son ducked his head for the exit shot, gotta have him hold a bottle of the detailing spray out the window next time Tim!) If anyone can figure out what (and why) is the Z car based fab project towards the end, you get an award. Lotsa fab work, which I always admire, but it doesn't do it for me, (looks like an elderly Saab) but to each his own. Note: this event will probably be canceled/chained shut soon, as they can't get people to STOP doing burnouts while leaving. From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 2 08:50:52 2008 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 07:50:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Pic compilation from Irvine, CA morning car show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <534701.97887.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Even uglier (shudder...) than that Z is the silver mini with the gynormous flared fenders. "U-G-L-Y, you ain't got no alibi..." Gary McCormick San Jose, CA "O'Farrell, Fergus" wrote: Here's the pic compilation. Careful, large pic site, will kill ya on dial-up. http://carsandcoffee.info/forum/showthread.php?t=728 Roadster content: maroon '66 Nova is our own Tim Miner's "other resto", I think. It is "bonestock" and an incredibly detailed example of it. (his son ducked his head for the exit shot, gotta have him hold a bottle of the detailing spray out the window next time Tim!) If anyone can figure out what (and why) is the Z car based fab project towards the end, you get an award. Lotsa fab work, which I always admire, but it doesn't do it for me, (looks like an elderly Saab) but to each his own. Note: this event will probably be canceled/chained shut soon, as they can't get people to STOP doing burnouts while leaving. You are subscribed as gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From jklingman at stny.rr.com Mon Jun 2 09:23:56 2008 From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 11:23:56 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] silver mini Message-ID: <001001c8c4c4$ac7ce700$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71> Isn't that silver mini the one of custom they had for sale on ebay a couple of weeks ago? From jklingman at stny.rr.com Mon Jun 2 09:26:03 2008 From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 11:26:03 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: OT: Pic compilation from Irvine, CA morning car show Message-ID: <000e01c8c4c4$f8534520$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71> Super pictures, great mood adjuster for Monday morning. ----- Original Message ----- From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" To: Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 10:25 AM Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Pic compilation from Irvine, CA morning car show > Here's the pic compilation. Careful, large pic site, will kill ya on > dial-up. > > http://carsandcoffee.info/forum/showthread.php?t=728 > > Roadster content: maroon '66 Nova is our own Tim Miner's "other resto", > I think. It is "bonestock" and an incredibly detailed example of it. > (his son ducked his head for the exit shot, gotta have him hold a bottle > of the detailing spray out the window next time Tim!) > > If anyone can figure out what (and why) is the Z car based fab project > towards the end, you get an award. > Lotsa fab work, which I always admire, but it doesn't do it for me, > (looks like an elderly Saab) but to each his own. > > Note: this event will probably be canceled/chained shut soon, as they > can't get people to STOP doing burnouts while leaving. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jklingman at stny.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From sportsix63 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 2 10:13:40 2008 From: sportsix63 at yahoo.com (jim williams) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 09:13:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Engine Color Plus others Message-ID: <629171.92543.qm@web32503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Jim Williams Lewisburg, West Virginia Where can you get the correct shade of blue for the motor on a 1970 roadster? What are the small stems on the stock wheels for? I don't mean the hub cap ones? These appear to be maybe trim ring ? Last is there anyone who has an excellent 1600 1970 hub cap foe sale?? Thanks From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Jun 2 14:02:47 2008 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:02:47 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Engine Color Plus others Message-ID: <060220082002.23390.484451E700002A7A00005B5E2207020853CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Dean sells the paint: Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: jim williams > Jim Williams Lewisburg, West Virginia > > Where can you get the correct shade of blue for the motor on a 1970 roadster? > What are the small stems on the stock wheels for? I don't mean the hub cap ones? > These appear to be maybe trim ring ? > Last is there anyone who has an excellent 1600 1970 hub cap foe sale?? > Thanks > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From djp4 at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 2 14:09:52 2008 From: djp4 at sbcglobal.net (DAVID J. PEAY) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 13:09:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] cl Message-ID: <836196.96290.qm@web80705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> www.CraigsSex.singz.it From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com Mon Jun 2 14:24:20 2008 From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 13:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] cl Message-ID: <972866.22388.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> now i'm getting spammed through the roadster list? ----- Original Message ---- From: DAVID J. PEAY To: DATSUN LIST Sent: Monday, June 2, 2008 1:09:52 PM Subject: [Roadsters] cl www.CraigsSex.singz.it You are subscribed as vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From tputland at charter.net Mon Jun 2 15:11:29 2008 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 17:11:29 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] cl In-Reply-To: <836196.96290.qm@web80705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080602171129.LVJ8V.105566.root@fepweb14> This is totally uncalled for. What a crock of bull shit. Knock it off you bloody child. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- "DAVID J. PEAY" wrote: ============= www.CraigsSex.singz.it You are subscribed as tputland at charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From davesmbox at aol.com Mon Jun 2 15:23:09 2008 From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:23:09 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Old Gas OT Message-ID: <8CA930DFD498304-C94-1E9D@FWM-D41.sysops.aol.com> Any thoughts on getting rid of old gas. About 7 gals. It's pretty murky so I don't even want to try my lawn mower. Dave From chalsted at comcast.net Mon Jun 2 15:26:14 2008 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 17:26:14 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Old Gas OT References: <8CA930DFD498304-C94-1E9D@FWM-D41.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <00eb01c8c4f7$49d54920$a573a343@craigscomputer> I followed that question once with referrals all the way to the EPA. their representative told me to pour it into a pan and let it evaporate..... Craig From boakes at gmail.com Mon Jun 2 15:29:35 2008 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 16:29:35 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Old Gas OT In-Reply-To: <8CA930DFD498304-C94-1E9D@FWM-D41.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CA930DFD498304-C94-1E9D@FWM-D41.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <3ad057d60806021429g6568b436p9ddb0e199ea0c8f2@mail.gmail.com> I went through this problem years ago when restoring a Z, it's not easy. Do search for "hazardous waste disposal" and your town/area, there is usually a drop off center or certain days of the year that they'll collect gasoline and other liquids. For something as common as gasoline I was surprised at how hard it was to do it safely, but all-in-all worth the effort. Nasty stuff when it's outside of a gas tank. Bill Oakes '68 2000 Solex (currently not burning any gasoline) On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 4:23 PM, wrote: > Any thoughts on getting rid of old gas. About 7 gals. It's pretty murky so I don't even want to try my lawn mower. > > Dave > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as boakes at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From jrdmf at aol.com Mon Jun 2 16:12:19 2008 From: jrdmf at aol.com (jrdmf at aol.com) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:12:19 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Old Gas OT In-Reply-To: <8CA930DFD498304-C94-1E9D@FWM-D41.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CA930DFD498304-C94-1E9D@FWM-D41.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CA9314DB489BB3-176C-2139@webmail-nd04.sysops.aol.com> Rainbow disposal (our local trash hauler) has an open door policey regarding hazardous liquids that allows you to drop it off at no charge.?All you have?to do is pull up?to the station and sign your name.?They even take it out of the vehicle for you. They are being pro-active?because they?have figured out that it's?safer to receive it this way and?know what they are?dealing?with than to be surprised?by someone who has stashed it at the bottom of their trash can. Don't know that it works that way everywhere but it may be worth a phone call? Jon Frampton Huntington Beach Ca? -----Original Message----- From: davesmbox at aol.com To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 2:23 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Old Gas OT Any thoughts on getting rid of old gas. About 7 gals. It's pretty murky so I don't even want to try my lawn mower. Dave You are subscribed as jrdmf at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From davesmbox at aol.com Mon Jun 2 16:12:57 2008 From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:12:57 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters and Hagerty Insurance Message-ID: <8CA9314F21DD8FC-C94-2198@FWM-D41.sysops.aol.com> List Sorry to be so chatty today. The Hagerty Collector car Insurance magazine arrived today for those of you that use Hagerty. They are rising in value.?Their "MARKET WATCH' section is on Japanese sports cars . 4 cars are highlighted the 240Z,RX7,Honda S600 and yes the Datsun 1600/2000 roadster. From andycost at embarqmail.com Mon Jun 2 16:16:48 2008 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (andycost at embarqmail.com) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 18:16:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Old Gas OT In-Reply-To: <3ad057d60806021429g6568b436p9ddb0e199ea0c8f2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1612418230.390521212445008233.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com> Mix it with oil change oil and take it to your local oil collection place. We poured a quart of old gas on the driveway and lit it thinking that it would burn off rather quickly. It burned for a long time and made clouds of black smoke. Another option might be sealing it in an old jug and burying it in the back yard. I like to pour it on my fence line to keep the weeds down. I have a toxic perimeter to my yard made of brake fluid, gear oil, gasoline, and oil. From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Jun 2 16:49:47 2008 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:49:47 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters and Hagerty Insurance Message-ID: <060220082249.2116.4844790B000E2377000008442200737478CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Great. Guess we can expect $80k roadsters at Barrett-Jackson... Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: davesmbox at aol.com > List Sorry to be so chatty today. The Hagerty Collector car Insurance magazine > arrived today for those of you that use Hagerty. > They are rising in value.?Their "MARKET WATCH' section is on Japanese sports > cars . 4 cars are highlighted the 240Z,RX7,Honda S600 and yes the Datsun > 1600/2000 roadster. From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Jun 2 16:52:51 2008 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:52:51 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Old Gas OT Message-ID: <060220082252.275.484479C30000DE28000001132200750744CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> I wouldn't say this is Off Topic at all. That's what I did. Turns out my local fire dept will collect it. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Bill Oakes" > > Do search for "hazardous waste disposal" and your town/area, there is > usually a drop off center or certain days of the year that they'll > collect gasoline and other liquids. > -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: davesmbox at aol.com > Any thoughts on getting rid of old gas. About 7 gals. It's pretty murky so I > don't even want to try my lawn mower. > > Dave From tminerpcav at aol.com Mon Jun 2 16:56:14 2008 From: tminerpcav at aol.com (tminerpcav at aol.com) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:56:14 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Pic compilation from Irvine, CA morning car show In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CA931AFD812342-14C8-2374@webmail-nd07.sysops.aol.com> Yep, that was our Nova.? Except, that was my "gearhead" daughther (Caitlin) with me. BTW, the Nova is for sale if anyone is interested. Tim Miner -----Original Message----- From: O'Farrell, Fergus To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 7:25 am Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Pic compilation from Irvine, CA morning car show Here's the pic compilation. Careful, large pic site, will kill ya on dial-up. http://carsandcoffee.info/forum/showthread.php?t=728 Roadster content: maroon '66 Nova is our own Tim Miner's "other resto", I think. It is "bonestock" and an incredibly detailed example of it. (his son ducked his head for the exit shot, gotta have him hold a bottle of the detailing spray out the window next time Tim!) If anyone can figure out what (and why) is the Z car based fab project towards the end, you get an award. Lotsa fab work, which I always admire, but it doesn't do it for me, (looks like an elderly Saab) but to each his own. Note: this event will probably be canceled/chained shut soon, as they can't get people to STOP doing burnouts while leaving. You are subscribed as tminerpcav at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 2 17:42:02 2008 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:42:02 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Old Gas OT In-Reply-To: <1612418230.390521212445008233.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com> References: <1612418230.390521212445008233.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com> Message-ID: <4844854A.6060505@sbcglobal.net> Sorry to say so - but that is soooo wrong to do! This type of stuff should be disposed of properly. Place where I work is an EPA Superfund site because they used to make power line transformers there, and had some nasty oil spills in decades past. PO of my house must have dumped oil behind the garage years ago - during heavy rains water used to run off the soil back there without soaking in, right over the sill plate and into the garage. I dug it out and, just as an experiment, hit it a lick with my propane torch - and it burned! Dirt shouldn't burn... Gary McCormick San Jose, CA andycost at embarqmail.com wrote: > >Another option might be sealing it in an old jug and burying it in the back yard. >I like to pour it on my fence line to keep the weeds down. I have a toxic perimeter to my yard made of brake fluid, gear oil, gasoline, and oil. From fairlady66 at gmail.com Mon Jun 2 18:04:28 2008 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 17:04:28 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Old Gas OT In-Reply-To: <4844854A.6060505@sbcglobal.net> References: <1612418230.390521212445008233.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com> <4844854A.6060505@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: As a former Fire Department employee and Hazardous Waste Manager I would suggest you call your local Fire Department and see how they want to handle it. It is not a crime to have it (just dangerous) but it is a crime to dispose of it in the wrong way. Mixing it with the oil I would say is the wrong way. Oil is recycled and classified as sludge, gasoline would reduce it to a liquid making it more costly to dispose of and the one footing the bill is the one you gave the mixture to. Lets help our environment do the best it can with what we have to work with, lets not add mixture of unknowns to it. Theres my .02 worth On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Gary McCormick wrote: > Sorry to say so - but that is soooo wrong to do! This type of stuff > should be disposed of properly. Place where I work is an EPA Superfund > site because they used to make power line transformers there, and had > some nasty oil spills in decades past. > > PO of my house must have dumped oil behind the garage years ago - during > heavy rains water used to run off the soil back there without soaking > in, right over the sill plate and into the garage. I dug it out and, > just as an experiment, hit it a lick with my propane torch - and it > burned! Dirt shouldn't burn... > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > > andycost at embarqmail.com wrote: > > > > >Another option might be sealing it in an old jug and burying it in the > back yard. > >I like to pour it on my fence line to keep the weeds down. I have a toxic > perimeter to my yard made of brake fluid, gear oil, gasoline, and oil. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fairlady66 at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. From zariwny100 at comcast.net Mon Jun 2 18:12:49 2008 From: zariwny100 at comcast.net (Kerry and Kae Zariwny) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 17:12:49 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Old Gas OT References: <8CA930DFD498304-C94-1E9D@FWM-D41.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <005101c8c50e$909be910$0202fea9@YOUR0E16268AB7> Maybe it's the pyro in me, but I am surprised no one has yet to mention using a match. :-) Kerry Z Portland, Oregon 1968 1600 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 2:23 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Old Gas OT > Any thoughts on getting rid of old gas. About 7 gals. It's pretty murky so > I don't even want to try my lawn mower. > > Dave > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as zariwny100 at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From fairlady66 at gmail.com Mon Jun 2 18:38:43 2008 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 17:38:43 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Old Gas OT In-Reply-To: <005101c8c50e$909be910$0202fea9@YOUR0E16268AB7> References: <8CA930DFD498304-C94-1E9D@FWM-D41.sysops.aol.com> <005101c8c50e$909be910$0202fea9@YOUR0E16268AB7> Message-ID: *NOW THAT I WOULD GO FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!* :o) On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Kerry and Kae Zariwny < zariwny100 at comcast.net> wrote: > Maybe it's the pyro in me, but I am surprised no one has yet to mention > using a match. > > :-) > > > Kerry Z > Portland, Oregon > 1968 1600 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 2:23 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Old Gas OT > > > > Any thoughts on getting rid of old gas. About 7 gals. It's pretty murky > so > > I don't even want to try my lawn mower. > > > > Dave > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as zariwny100 at comcast.net > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fairlady66 at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. From w.brian.smith at gmail.com Mon Jun 2 18:42:36 2008 From: w.brian.smith at gmail.com (Brian Smith) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 19:42:36 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] New subscriber - old questions Message-ID: Hi everyone, Just subscribed earlier today. I picked up my first roadster yesterday, it's a 1969 1600. Its far from pretty but still solid enough to restore. With that being said, I've got a few questions. The car has been painted and painted and painted again. The top coat looks like a desert floor opening up to show the multiple colors underneath. The wizard that painted it last apparently never took a step down the hardware aisle that sells masking tape and the ID plate is completely covered and unreadable in any capacity. What's the best way to remove this paint without damaging the plate? I'd prefer to recover it vs. replace it as I still don't know what the VIN for the car is. I'm sure I'll need a multitude of parts, most notably a windshield, dash and top. Is it possible to use an early dash in the later car? I kinda prefer the early look. Thanks! -- Brian Smith From Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Mon Jun 2 19:14:15 2008 From: Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com (Pat) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:14:15 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] New subscriber - old questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48449AE7.8080803@HorneSystemsTx.com> Brian, Welcome to the list. There are two places on our cars where the serial number is stamped, on the plate you found, and on the right front frame rail under the front carb. It may be hard to find, but cross lighting and a clean rail you will see it. Early dashes can be put in later cars. I think there is mention of that on www.311s.org, but I could be mistaken. Where are you located? Peace, Pat Thusly spake Brian Smith: > Hi everyone, > > Just subscribed earlier today. I picked up my first roadster yesterday, it's > a 1969 1600. Its far from pretty but still solid enough to restore. With > that being said, I've got a few questions. > > The car has been painted and painted and painted again. The top coat looks > like a desert floor opening up to show the multiple colors underneath. The > wizard that painted it last apparently never took a step down the hardware > aisle that sells masking tape and the ID plate is completely covered and > unreadable in any capacity. What's the best way to remove this paint without > damaging the plate? I'd prefer to recover it vs. replace it as I still don't > know what the VIN for the car is. > > I'm sure I'll need a multitude of parts, most notably a windshield, dash and > top. Is it possible to use an early dash in the later car? I kinda prefer > the early look. > > Thanks! > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.5/1479 - Release Date: 6/2/2008 7:02 PM > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From w.brian.smith at gmail.com Mon Jun 2 19:47:46 2008 From: w.brian.smith at gmail.com (Brian Smith) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 20:47:46 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] New subscriber - old questions In-Reply-To: <48449AE7.8080803@HorneSystemsTx.com> References: <48449AE7.8080803@HorneSystemsTx.com> Message-ID: Thanks to everyone for pointing out my lack of location... and to think, I pester the users of my forum to do the same! I'm in Horn Lake, MS which is about 10 miles south of Memphis, TN. I'm not stranger to cars with "personality" as I've had 14 Mazda RX-7s (glutton for punishment, maybe?) with my last one being a 1988 with a V8 and six speed out of a 1995 Camaro. I will probably put together a site this weekend to document the restoration process, which will be quite an undertaking. On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Pat wrote: > Brian, > > Welcome to the list. > > There are two places on our cars where the serial number is stamped, on the > plate you found, and on the right front frame rail under the front carb. It > may be hard to find, but cross lighting and a clean rail you will see it. > > Early dashes can be put in later cars. I think there is mention of that on > www.311s.org, but I could be mistaken. > > Where are you located? > > Peace, > Pat > > Thusly spake Brian Smith: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> Just subscribed earlier today. I picked up my first roadster yesterday, >> it's >> a 1969 1600. Its far from pretty but still solid enough to restore. With >> that being said, I've got a few questions. >> >> The car has been painted and painted and painted again. The top coat looks >> like a desert floor opening up to show the multiple colors underneath. The >> wizard that painted it last apparently never took a step down the hardware >> aisle that sells masking tape and the ID plate is completely covered and >> unreadable in any capacity. What's the best way to remove this paint >> without >> damaging the plate? I'd prefer to recover it vs. replace it as I still >> don't >> know what the VIN for the car is. >> >> I'm sure I'll need a multitude of parts, most notably a windshield, dash >> and >> top. Is it possible to use an early dash in the later car? I kinda prefer >> the early look. >> >> Thanks! >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.5/1479 - Release >> Date: 6/2/2008 7:02 PM >> >> > > -- > Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM > 2001 > Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 > www.hornesystemstx.com > -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- > > -- Brian Smith From graemes at internode.on.net Mon Jun 2 20:02:08 2008 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 11:32:08 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] New subscriber - old questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000601c8c51d$d639e120$236fa8c0@desktop> "What's the best way to remove this paint without damaging the plate? I'd prefer to recover it vs. replace it as I still don't know what the VIN for the car is." You already know about the chassis stamping. For the VIN plate I would suggest a paper towel soaked in paint thinner. I tried this on my own VIN and it seemed to work OK, although it was overspray not a full on coat. Avoid using a scraper/scourer, it will probably destroy the information. It will probably take some time and a fair deal of care. Welcome to the List! From davesmbox at aol.com Mon Jun 2 20:26:02 2008 From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:26:02 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Old Gas OT In-Reply-To: <005101c8c50e$909be910$0202fea9@YOUR0E16268AB7> References: <8CA930DFD498304-C94-1E9D@FWM-D41.sysops.aol.com> <005101c8c50e$909be910$0202fea9@YOUR0E16268AB7> Message-ID: <8CA93384D54875C-CE0-655@webmail-me01.sysops.aol.com> Isn't that what they tried in universal studios yesterday? -----Original Message----- From: Kerry and Kae Zariwny To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 8:12 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old Gas OT Maybe it's the pyro in me, but I am surprised no one has yet to mention using a match. :-) Kerry Z Portland, Oregon 1968 1600 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 2:23 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Old Gas OT > Any thoughts on getting rid of old gas. About 7 gals. It's pretty murky so > I don't even want to try my lawn mower. > > Dave > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as zariwny100 at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as davesmbox at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net Mon Jun 2 21:27:33 2008 From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:27:33 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [Roadsters] Old Gas OT Message-ID: <11946454.1212463654185.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Any of the garages/shops that use waste oil or gas for heating their shop would probably take it. -----Original Message----- >From: davesmbox at aol.com >Sent: Jun 2, 2008 3:23 PM >To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Subject: [Roadsters] Old Gas OT > >Any thoughts on getting rid of old gas. About 7 gals. It's pretty murky so I don't even want to try my lawn mower. > >Dave >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as hahlbohmd at earthlink.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From daveandlindab at comcast.net Mon Jun 2 21:33:35 2008 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 23:33:35 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Old Gas OT In-Reply-To: <8CA930DFD498304-C94-1E9D@FWM-D41.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <000301c8c52a$9ba4b460$6800a8c0@delled48909442> I asked local gas station, they took it, one for free, the other for $5.00. Plan B, dilute with a gallon or 2 of used engine oil, reduces what little flammability is left and take to oil recycling. This way you are sure it gets handled properly. Piece of advice, learned the hard way on the side of the road...If you haven't done it already, have the tank cleaned, then replace every rubber fuel line and flush the metal lines thoroughly with penetrant like PB Buster, compressed air, solvent etc and fresh gas. Add a big clear plastic filter before the pump and carry 2 spares. Clean out the carb inlet screens. I clogged 4 filters and had to blow out the line 6 times in the first 4 days/800 miles (to Watkins Glen)after a tank replacement. Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: davesmbox at aol.com [mailto:davesmbox at aol.com] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 5:23 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Old Gas OT Any thoughts on getting rid of old gas. About 7 gals. It's pretty murky so I don't even want to try my lawn mower. Dave From daveandlindab at comcast.net Mon Jun 2 22:49:17 2008 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 00:49:17 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Old Gas OT In-Reply-To: <005101c8c50e$909be910$0202fea9@YOUR0E16268AB7> Message-ID: <000001c8c535$2ef86b30$6800a8c0@delled48909442> Stuff I drained out wouldn't even burn. I tried, Smoked a bit, but wouldn't flash. Smelled like old varnish or shellac, looked like it too. Fire dept is a good idea, worse case, they can use it for practice. I wouldn't think mixing it with oil would be so bad, the oil is regularly contaminated by gas in normal engine use, at a lower concentration, so the recycling center should be able to handle it, especially mixed with a couple hundred gallons of motor oil. I could, of course, be very wrong. Here's a funny one, legal mandated method to dispose of antifreeze, in my area with city sewer, is to pour down the toilet! Apparently they are set up to treat it. -----Original Message----- From: Kerry and Kae Zariwny [mailto:zariwny100 at comcast.net] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 8:13 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old Gas OT Maybe it's the pyro in me, but I am surprised no one has yet to mention using a match. :-) Kerry Z Portland, Oregon 1968 1600 From tputland at charter.net Tue Jun 3 07:21:51 2008 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 6:21:51 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] front quarter removal--thanks all In-Reply-To: <001201c8becd$d877eb90$0300a8c0@HPW> Message-ID: <20080603092151.C295S.26707.root@fepweb03> Now that I have removed all the rust--er...I mean doors and quarter panels, now I see what I could not see: The head of the bolts were already gone. No wonder I couldn't figure out how to remove the quarter panels. At first and second and even third look, it appeared that the heads of the bolts must have been INSIDE the A pillars. Both quarter panels were rusted to the body and when a PO had tried to remove the quarter panels, he or she only managed to break off the bolt heads. This does not surprise me since I broke nearly every fender bolt with less then 10 pounds of pressure. The A pillars were rusted out all the way around. It is a wonder we didn't break the car in half when we loaded it onto the flat bed. I swear I saw the frame flexing when I was putting the car on jack stands!!! Like I said, this car is a basket case. The only good part of this story is the car has not been on the road since 1981 so I did get a solid windshield, low mileage two liter block and five speed tranny and a few other nice chrome bits. Thanks for everyone's help!! Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- E Scanlon wrote: ============= Remove the doors. Then again, if you don't mind trashing the edge of the fender and/or the doors, then a 1/4" socket with extensions and a swivel....maybe... FWIW E ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 4:13 PM Subject: [Roadsters] front quarter removal--cloaking device territory for me >I am trying to remove a front quarter from a basket case part car I just >got. > > Since this is the first time I have tried to remove a front quarter--with > out trashing it, I am in never before explored territory--kinda like > Greg's "cloaking device" and someone else's nuclear powered Roadster... > > Any way, I, FOR THE LIFE OF ME, cannot see how to remove the three bolts > just in front of the A pillar. Am I missing something here? Or is that a > totally enclosed space? > > Thanks in advance. > > OH YEA...in case you forgot, read the last line of my signature again.... > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as escanlon at wa-net.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From solex675 at hotmail.com Tue Jun 3 13:01:45 2008 From: solex675 at hotmail.com (Andrew Murphy) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 12:01:45 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Thanks to a busy man Message-ID: Hey All, Soon after we got back from Solvang, Shari and I noticed some strange sounds coming from the rear of the car. A repeating "Wocka Wocka Wocka" that seemed to me to be a wheel bearing crapping out. So the car was sent to Classic Datsun Motorsports and within two days I had the car back with two new rear wheel bearings and seals. I wanted to give a public thanks to Les Cannaday for coming to our rescue and getting the car back so quickly. He diagnosed the issue very quickly and when I went to pick up the car, he showed me the wheel bearing with several balls missing out of it and little pieces of metal that were sticking out of it. Needless to say, the brake drums were contaminated and needed to be repalced. Too often, service shops don't show you the replaced parts and I was glad that Les did. Les would be the first to tell you that he didn't turn the car around so fast because he could, but because he is very busy and just does not have the room to keep the car there for very long. If you have ever been to Classic Datsun Motorsports then you know that he is a busy guy with restorations, servicing, and he is also keeps the racing spirit alive with several race cars being serviced and sponsored from his garage. So thanks again Les. The car made the trip home with no surprises and it is good to have her back. I am looking forward to some Summer drives and get togethers. I have to admit to being a little spoiled as I live less than an hour away from CDM. I feel badly for those owners who are not close to a shop like CDM. It is a resource that I have used (and will continue to use) all the time. So back on the road and hope to see you out there! Andrew Murphy Shari Crawley 1966 1600 SPL311-01013 "Datsa" _________________________________________________________________ Now you can invite friends from Facebook and other groups to join you on Windows Live Messenger. Add now. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_AddNow_Now From tminerpcav at aol.com Tue Jun 3 13:51:47 2008 From: tminerpcav at aol.com (tminerpcav at aol.com) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:51:47 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Thanks to a busy man In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CA93CA6402B530-163C-B07@webmail-ne10.sysops.aol.com> YEAH Les! ---- Original Message ---- From: Andrew Murphy To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 12:01 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Thanks to a busy man Hey All, Soon after we got back from Solvang, Shari and I noticed some strange sounds coming from the rear of the car. A repeating "Wocka Wocka Wocka" that seemed to me to be a wheel bearing crapping out. So the car was sent to Classic Datsun Motorsports and within two days I had the car back with two new rear wheel bearings and seals. I wanted to give a public thanks to Les Cannaday for coming to our rescue and getting the car back so quickly. He diagnosed the issue very quickly and when I went to pick up the car, he showed me the wheel bearing with several balls missing out of it and little pieces of metal that were sticking out of it. Needless to say, the brake drums were contaminated and needed to be repalced. Too often, service shops don't show you the replaced parts and I was glad that Les did. Les would be the first to tell you that he didn't turn the car around so fast because he could, but because he is very busy and just does not have the room to keep the car there for very long. If you have ever been to Classic Datsun Motorsports then you know that he is a busy guy with restorations, servicing, and he is also keeps the racing spirit alive with several race cars being serviced and sponsored from his garage. So thanks again Les. The car made the trip home with no surprises and it is good to have her back. I am looking forward to some Summer drives and get togethers. I have to admit to being a little spoiled as I live less than an hour away from CDM. I feel badly for those owners who are not close to a shop like CDM. It is a resource that I have used (and will continue to use) all the time. So back on the road and hope to see you out there! Andrew Murphy Shari Crawley 1966 1600 SPL311-01013 "Datsa" _________________________________________________________________ Now you can invite friends from Facebook and other groups to join you on Windows Live Messenger. Add now. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_AddNow_Now You are subscribed as tminerpcav at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca From ktmaustin at sbcglobal.net Tue Jun 3 17:41:52 2008 From: ktmaustin at sbcglobal.net (Kevin McDonald) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 18:41:52 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Thanks to a busy man References: Message-ID: <017701c8c5d3$66ce8140$640110ac@ktmlt2> I replaced my own wheel bearings and seals. I figured 2 nights but it ended up being over a month. I screwed up an axle and had to replace it ;-( It sounds easier than it is... Kevin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Murphy" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 2:01 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Thanks to a busy man > Hey All, > > Soon after we got back from Solvang, Shari and I noticed some strange > sounds > coming from the rear of the car. A repeating "Wocka Wocka Wocka" that > seemed > to me to be a wheel bearing crapping out. So the car was sent to Classic > Datsun Motorsports and within two days I had the car back with two new > rear > wheel bearings and seals. I wanted to give a public thanks to Les Cannaday > for > coming to our rescue and getting the car back so quickly. He diagnosed the > issue very quickly and when I went to pick up the car, he showed me the > wheel > bearing with several balls missing out of it and little pieces of metal > that > were sticking out of it. Needless to say, the brake drums were > contaminated > and needed to be repalced. Too often, service shops don't show you the > replaced parts and I was glad that Les did. > > Les would be the first to tell you that he didn't turn the car around so > fast > because he could, but because he is very busy and just does not have the > room > to keep the car there for very long. If you have ever been to Classic > Datsun > Motorsports then you know that he is a busy guy with restorations, > servicing, > and he is also keeps the racing spirit alive with several race cars being > serviced and sponsored from his garage. > > So thanks again Les. The car made the trip home with no surprises and it > is > good to have her back. I am looking forward to some Summer drives and get > togethers. I have to admit to being a little spoiled as I live less than > an > hour away from CDM. I feel badly for those owners who are not close to a > shop > like CDM. It is a resource that I have used (and will continue to use) all > the > time. > > So back on the road and hope to see you out there! > > Andrew Murphy > Shari Crawley > > 1966 1600 > SPL311-01013 "Datsa" > _________________________________________________________________ > Now you can invite friends from Facebook and other groups to join you on > Windows Live Messenger. Add now. > https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_AddNow_Now > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ktmaustin at sbcglobal.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsunroadsters at yahoo.com Tue Jun 3 20:42:28 2008 From: datsunroadsters at yahoo.com (Eddie Wu) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 19:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] FREE: some Roadster stuff In-Reply-To: <017701c8c5d3$66ce8140$640110ac@ktmlt2> Message-ID: <978760.79097.qm@web50710.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I have the following two items posted on the "Wanna Trade" section of 311s.org, but here it is. First come first served. Free to good home. Just pay shipping. USPS Priority is $5.95. 1. black vinyl ebrake boot. slight .25" tear near opening for ebrake handle. 2. a set of PIAA Platnium Series Super White H4 80/80W bulbs Let me know if you want either part. Thanks, Eddie From stathy at shaw.ca Wed Jun 4 00:39:12 2008 From: stathy at shaw.ca (stan) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:39:12 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] shifter plate for 1969-1600 Message-ID: <000001c8c60d$b37198e0$6500a8c0@g71901fc8f5974> Hello all, I'm kinda embarrassed to ask this, but I'm piecing my interior back together and I'm struggling to figure out how the shifter plate (the one with the shifter pattern on it that fits over the shifter) fits on/under/in the center console. On some pictures I have it looks as though the plate sits overtop of the front of the center console. This looks horrible and doesn't look right. It would look much better in between the two "arms" that extend to the base of the radio console. But this obviously isn't the way it was meant to be as the plate is probably about 1" wider. So, that leaves the possibility of this plate going under the console. This doesn't look right either as it doesn't appear that you can secure it in properly. Have I confused everyone? If not any help would be greatly appreciated. Cheers! Stan in Vancouver From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Wed Jun 4 00:47:28 2008 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 23:47:28 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] shifter plate for 1969-1600 In-Reply-To: <000001c8c60d$b37198e0$6500a8c0@g71901fc8f5974> References: <000001c8c60d$b37198e0$6500a8c0@g71901fc8f5974> Message-ID: Stan The shifter plate fits under the center console Uising the two tabs) and is held in place (under the radio) by two screwsHTH Peter > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 23:39:12 -0700> From: stathy at shaw.ca> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] shifter plate for 1969-1600> > Hello all, I'm kinda embarrassed to ask this, but I'm piecing my> interior back together and I'm struggling to figure out how the shifter> plate (the one with the shifter pattern on it that fits over the> shifter)> fits on/under/in the center console.> > On some pictures I have it looks as though the plate sits overtop of the> front of the center console. This looks horrible and doesn't look> right. It would look much better in between the two "arms"> that extend to the base of the radio console. But this obviously isn't> the way it was meant to be as the plate is probably about 1" wider.> So, that leaves the possibility of this plate going under the console.> This doesn't look right either as it doesn't appear that you can secure> it in properly.> > Have I confused everyone? If not any help would be greatly appreciated.> > > Cheers!> Stan in Vancouver> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From drreich48 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 4 07:35:26 2008 From: drreich48 at yahoo.com (DeWayne Reichert) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 06:35:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Jumping 4th Message-ID: <88087.58747.qm@web90606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Long story I'll try to make short. We've had our roadster for a year now and it's time to get it summer ready. I've rebuilt the brakes, replaced the bearings, put in longer front studs. But I still have one thing left to fix. My 5 speed transmission jumps out of 4th gear. The guy we bought it from said he had it rebuilt and it looks like it (new paint and gaskets) It shifts fine no grinding or forcing it into gear. But you put the power to 4th and out it jumps. Any ideas or thoughts before I tear into it would be great. Thanks DeWayne & Jeanne 68, 2000 SRL - 311 From Keith0alan at aol.com Wed Jun 4 08:00:09 2008 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 10:00:09 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Jumping 4th Message-ID: In a message dated 6/4/2008 6:36:09 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, drreich48 at yahoo.com writes: Long story I'll try to make short. We've had our roadster for a year now and it's time to get it summer ready. I've rebuilt the brakes, replaced the bearings, put in longer front studs. But I still have one thing left to fix. My 5 speed transmission jumps out of 4th gear. The guy we bought it from said he had it rebuilt and it looks like it (new paint and gaskets) It shifts fine no grinding or forcing it into gear. But you put the power to 4th and out it jumps. Any ideas or thoughts before I tear into it would be great. Thanks DeWayne & Jeanne 68, 2000 SRL - 311 My ideas would be bent shift fork, missing detent ball or spring, shift dog worn, or external shift lever bumping the body. The first or second are the most likely. As I recall some of the detent balls can be accessed from the outside but most involve opening up the transmission. About 90% chance you are looking at opening it up again to fix a fairly simple problem. keith **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) From 9laser3 at bright.net Wed Jun 4 08:14:33 2008 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 10:14:33 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Jumping 4th In-Reply-To: <88087.58747.qm@web90606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <88087.58747.qm@web90606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001801c8c64d$513fb450$f3bf1cf0$@net> My vote goes with Keith, "missing detent ball or spring". Having torn apart several 5 speeds, I can assure you it is very easy to miss or drop one of those pesky little critters! Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of DeWayne Reichert Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 9:35 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Jumping 4th Long story I'll try to make short. We've had our roadster for a year now and it's time to get it summer ready. I've rebuilt the brakes, replaced the bearings, put in longer front studs. But I still have one thing left to fix. My 5 speed transmission jumps out of 4th gear. The guy we bought it from said he had it rebuilt and it looks like it (new paint and gaskets) It shifts fine no grinding or forcing it into gear. But you put the power to 4th and out it jumps. Any ideas or thoughts before I tear into it would be great. Thanks DeWayne & Jeanne 68, 2000 SRL - 311 You are subscribed as 9laser3 at bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From steve at olsonarchitect.com Wed Jun 4 10:47:32 2008 From: steve at olsonarchitect.com (Stephen Wan) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 09:47:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] She's back on the road! Message-ID: <003f01c8c662$b18f6ac0$7200a8c0@Stephen> After the mini iron bottom last year, I limped my roadster stuck in 4th gear all the way back to south OC. She sat there in the garage gathering dust for a year waiting for me to pull the engine and swap transmissions. Two nights ago I finally decided to crawl under the car to pop the shift dogs back in. Just to drive her around again, if only in the 1st 3 gears. As I was shifting the gears between 3rd and 4th and playing with the dogs, I discovered that the 3rd gear syncro ring had more thrust play than the others. This allowed the raised center portion (middle 3rd) of the dog to slide past the shift ring. This allowed the dog to pop up a millimeter or two which, along with the extra play in the syncro ring cause the dog to jam up against the shift ring, locking the tranny in 4th. I figured if I prevent the shift fork and ring from travelling too far over the 4th gear, I can prevent the raised portion of the dog to slide past the ring and pop out. The easy solution? I cut an aluminum spacer to snap onto the shift rod between the 3-4 shift fork and the front of the transmission case. This jams the shift fork before it completely slides over 4th gear. I drove it to work yesterday and it does not pop out of 4th, nor does it get stuck in gear. A quick work around that gets her back on the road! It looks like it may work as permanent solution untill I have time to pull and rebuild the engine. Hope to see you guys in the upcoming events! Steve 70' 1600 From 9laser3 at bright.net Wed Jun 4 11:13:57 2008 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 13:13:57 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] MidOhio Vintage GP Message-ID: <001901c8c666$61b784c0$25268e40$@net> Just a reminder that the MidOhio Vintage GP is coming up June 27-29th. Great venue for vintage racing and spectators. I haven't heard from the local Datsun club but they usually have a Datsun corral on the show field on Sunday. Bring your roadster and sign in at the concours in the infield and you'll take home a goodies bag that normally includes a dash plaque and a commemorative glass. Head to http://www.midohio.com/ for ticket information. Paul Ohio From tputland at charter.net Thu Jun 5 10:04:03 2008 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 9:04:03 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Are we down or just quiet? Message-ID: <20080605120403.CZ9E2.183549.root@fepweb08> Raining like crazy here off and on this morning. Supposed to be sunny and in the 80s Saturday. Hopefully take one or both Roadsters out this weekend. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning From Keith0alan at aol.com Thu Jun 5 10:07:17 2008 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 12:07:17 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Are we down or just quiet? Message-ID: In a message dated 6/5/2008 9:05:06 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tputland at charter.net writes: Raining like crazy here off and on this morning. Supposed to be sunny and in the 80s Saturday. Hopefully take one or both Roadsters out this weekend. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning Working here. Getting a box of 1600 carbs boxed up to ship out. keith "the slow carb guy" williams **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) From fairlady66 at gmail.com Thu Jun 5 10:44:26 2008 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:44:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Are we down or just quiet? In-Reply-To: <20080605120403.CZ9E2.183549.root@fepweb08> References: <20080605120403.CZ9E2.183549.root@fepweb08> Message-ID: Slow...but not down. Took the Roadster out Sunday for a 2 1/2 hour drive. Headed for Gavlin Hills (out by lake Matthews in Riverside County) and kept going, and going, and going... Had no idea where we were going but had a great time. Ended up in Lake Elsinore, great Topless weather. On 6/5/08, Tim wrote: > > Raining like crazy here off and on this morning. Supposed to be sunny and > in the 80s Saturday. Hopefully take one or both Roadsters out this weekend. > > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fairlady66 at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Thu Jun 5 11:06:02 2008 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 10:06:02 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Ron Carter Message-ID: Anyone now when ron is racing next in SoCal? Thks Peter From joek at camberconstruction.com Thu Jun 5 11:54:25 2008 From: joek at camberconstruction.com (Joe Kinstle) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 10:54:25 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Are we down or just quiet? In-Reply-To: References: <20080605120403.CZ9E2.183549.root@fepweb08> Message-ID: <022d01c8c735$31649a90$020fa8c0@lapjoek> Drove the roadster work this morning. Was in a t-shirt with the top down, at 7:30am, going 75. Perfect roadster weather here in Oakland, Ca. Last time I had the car out, oil was splattered all over the hood, but I'm happy to say that removing the valve cover and cleaning the gasket solved the issue. I'll be taking the curvy route home ;) Joe Kinstle '68 2L BLK SRL -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris & Christy Breyer Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:44 AM To: Tim Cc: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Are we down or just quiet? Slow...but not down. Took the Roadster out Sunday for a 2 1/2 hour drive. Headed for Gavlin Hills (out by lake Matthews in Riverside County) and kept going, and going, and going... Had no idea where we were going but had a great time. Ended up in Lake Elsinore, great Topless weather. On 6/5/08, Tim wrote: > > Raining like crazy here off and on this morning. Supposed to be sunny and > in the 80s Saturday. Hopefully take one or both Roadsters out this weekend. > > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fairlady66 at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. You are subscribed as joek at camberconstruction.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From andycost at embarqmail.com Thu Jun 5 16:11:25 2008 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (andycost at embarqmail.com) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:11:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Are we down or just quiet? In-Reply-To: <022d01c8c735$31649a90$020fa8c0@lapjoek> Message-ID: <866871859.1039961212703885803.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com> Replaced the Q45 MAF in the racecar yesterday. It still won't run. I'm waiting for a replacement ECU to arrive to see if that is the problem. I'm considering replacing the 5 speed with an automatic. Does anyone have a "Free to a good home" auto for a KA24DE gathering dust? From matthews517 at earthlink.net Thu Jun 5 17:58:18 2008 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 19:58:18 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Are we down or just quiet? In-Reply-To: <022d01c8c735$31649a90$020fa8c0@lapjoek> Message-ID: Joe, Does curvy route include Skyline drive?? I used to RIP that sucka up in my Mustangs! Matt Smith (former resident of Alameda CA) class of "83, Go Hornets!" HAHAHAHA! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Kinstle Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 1:54 PM To: 'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Are we down or just quiet? Drove the roadster work this morning. Was in a t-shirt with the top down, at 7:30am, going 75. Perfect roadster weather here in Oakland, Ca. Last time I had the car out, oil was splattered all over the hood, but I'm happy to say that removing the valve cover and cleaning the gasket solved the issue. I'll be taking the curvy route home ;) Joe Kinstle '68 2L BLK SRL -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris & Christy Breyer Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:44 AM To: Tim Cc: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Are we down or just quiet? Slow...but not down. Took the Roadster out Sunday for a 2 1/2 hour drive. Headed for Gavlin Hills (out by lake Matthews in Riverside County) and kept going, and going, and going... Had no idea where we were going but had a great time. Ended up in Lake Elsinore, great Topless weather. On 6/5/08, Tim wrote: > > Raining like crazy here off and on this morning. Supposed to be sunny and > in the 80s Saturday. Hopefully take one or both Roadsters out this weekend. > > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fairlady66 at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. You are subscribed as joek at camberconstruction.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as matthews517 at earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From matthews517 at earthlink.net Thu Jun 5 18:14:08 2008 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 20:14:08 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch hose update Message-ID: Hi All, Well, its several days later now and I'm "pending parts". They're on the way. Turns out "patching" a clutch hose is every bit as bad an idea as folks said it would be. It being a 3 layer hose (hose, wrapping, hose) that thing is SMALL on the inside. AND, you don't know where the "inside" hole is. Impossible to "patch". I found out where the outside of the hose leaked, cut it in two, and got a 2 inch piece of antenna from an old transistor radio and made a "patch". I wrapped the joint in E-Tape and used several hose clamps. It lasted about 4 pumps of the clutch pedal. I'm currently driving Loreli without a clutch and getting INCREDIBLE GAS MILEAGE! No downshifting, no stopping at lights (I time my lights PERFECTLY). I've learned to make my shifts between 2500 and 3100 RPM so they're nice and smooth. I can go as slow as 5 mph in first gear at around 1100 RPM. That pisses folks off behind me, but it's MY car, DAMMIT! As said before, she's my daily driver and my only car. I'm fairly certain that if I HADN'T thrown away my rear brake hose when I replaced it, I could make it work as a temporary fix, but.. The moral of the story is. don't toss those old parts. Ya just never know. If you have two, eBay them. If you have one.. Might want to hold on to it. :-) Matt From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Jun 5 18:24:09 2008 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 00:24:09 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch hose update Message-ID: <060620080024.2777.484883A90000D3FD00000AD92213575333CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> I forget where in TN you are, but couldn't you get a clutch hose from the local CARQUEST? From 311s.org: Slave cylinder hose: CARQUEST SP6264 <- perfect fit, ~ $35 Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Matthew A. Smith" > Hi All, > > Well, its several days later now and I'm "pending parts". They're on the > way. Turns out "patching" a clutch hose is every bit as bad an idea as folks > said it would be. It being a 3 layer hose (hose, wrapping, hose) that thing > is SMALL on the inside. AND, you don't know where the "inside" hole is. > Impossible to "patch". I found out where the outside of the hose leaked, cut > it in two, and got a 2 inch piece of antenna from an old transistor radio > and made a "patch". I wrapped the joint in E-Tape and used several hose > clamps. > > It lasted about 4 pumps of the clutch pedal. I'm currently driving Loreli > without a clutch and getting INCREDIBLE GAS MILEAGE! No downshifting, no > stopping at lights (I time my lights PERFECTLY). I've learned to make my > shifts between 2500 and 3100 RPM so they're nice and smooth. I can go as > slow as 5 mph in first gear at around 1100 RPM. That pisses folks off behind > me, but it's MY car, DAMMIT! As said before, she's my daily driver and my > only car. I'm fairly certain that if I HADN'T thrown away my rear brake hose > when I replaced it, I could make it work as a temporary fix, but.. > > The moral of the story is. don't toss those old parts. Ya just never know. > If you have two, eBay them. If you have one.. Might want to hold on to it. > :-) > > Matt > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From matthews517 at earthlink.net Fri Jun 6 03:05:22 2008 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 05:05:22 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch hose update In-Reply-To: <060620080024.2777.484883A90000D3FD00000AD92213575333CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Message-ID: Thank you Pete, Chattanooga TN is my location. I never even thought about Carquest. There's one about 20 miles away in Cleveland TN. My new hose should be here today, but I'll add them to my "automotive favorites" on Internet Explorer. Maybe I'll pop over to Carquest this weekend to check things out. Matt -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 8:24 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Clutch hose update I forget where in TN you are, but couldn't you get a clutch hose from the local CARQUEST? From 311s.org: Slave cylinder hose: CARQUEST SP6264 <- perfect fit, ~ $35 Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Matthew A. Smith" > Hi All, > > Well, its several days later now and I'm "pending parts". They're on the > way. Turns out "patching" a clutch hose is every bit as bad an idea as folks > said it would be. It being a 3 layer hose (hose, wrapping, hose) that thing > is SMALL on the inside. AND, you don't know where the "inside" hole is. > Impossible to "patch". I found out where the outside of the hose leaked, cut > it in two, and got a 2 inch piece of antenna from an old transistor radio > and made a "patch". I wrapped the joint in E-Tape and used several hose > clamps. > > It lasted about 4 pumps of the clutch pedal. I'm currently driving Loreli > without a clutch and getting INCREDIBLE GAS MILEAGE! No downshifting, no > stopping at lights (I time my lights PERFECTLY). I've learned to make my > shifts between 2500 and 3100 RPM so they're nice and smooth. I can go as > slow as 5 mph in first gear at around 1100 RPM. That pisses folks off behind > me, but it's MY car, DAMMIT! As said before, she's my daily driver and my > only car. I'm fairly certain that if I HADN'T thrown away my rear brake hose > when I replaced it, I could make it work as a temporary fix, but.. > > The moral of the story is. don't toss those old parts. Ya just never know. > If you have two, eBay them. If you have one.. Might want to hold on to it. > :-) > > Matt > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as matthews517 at earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From jklingman at stny.rr.com Fri Jun 6 16:12:09 2008 From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 18:12:09 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] July 4th Bristol VT Roadster gathering reminder Message-ID: <000e01c8c822$5d888350$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71> There will be a roadster gathering in Bristol VT over the 4th of July this year. For info contact George Landis at innkeeper at dreamhousecountryinn.com . George and his white '70 1600 will be chauffeuring Elvis in the parade. There is a lot of fun planned, lots to do and wonderful roads to drive. You can bring your roadster, another fun car, or the family car and family. John From w.brian.smith at gmail.com Sat Jun 7 10:16:33 2008 From: w.brian.smith at gmail.com (Brian Smith) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 11:16:33 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Good news and bad news Message-ID: First, the bad news. I decided to see if my recent "barn find" would spin over so I took a trip to the parts store and corralled up the required tools - starting fluid, gallon of PB Blaster, fresh plugs, wires and condenser. I pulled the plugs and immediately didn't like what I saw. #2 and #4 had green deposits crystallized on them. First sign of a decades old blown head gasket. From what I know, the car hasn't been started in 20 years or better - the answer I don't have is why it was parked. This is probably the reason. I hooked up the remote starter switch and crossed my fingers as I pulled the trigger - "Click" - nothing. OK, I know sometimes after starters have been sitting for a while the brushes and whatnot can't make good contact because of the rust. I tried it again with the same result. And again. And again after that. Eventually the starter hit a weak spot on the flywheel and spun up for a fraction of a second as I let off the trigger. My optimistic hopes of it being a bad starter were washed down the drain. "Well there's your problem!" I popped the valve cover off to examine the top side to discover the engine has sweat itself to death. The rocker shaft and arms were coated in the good flaky stuff. The valve springs looked immaculate but the rest was a rich shade of browns and red. It will be a challenge to make this car run again and even if it does, the big question is - for how long? I gave each cylinder a very generous helping of PB Blaster through a funnel and washed the top side down straight out of the gallon can making sure it made its way down to the crankcase. Maybe I will have more luck tomorrow. While looking at the car today, I found out it isn't a 1969, but actually a 1968 - from what I can tell. There's no side molding or lights on the fenders. It looks like the grille has been replaced with a horizontal unit like the '65 SPL311 shown in the ID section at datsun.org. I've yet to pull the ID plate off and soak it to retrieve the VIN. I plan on doing that later tonight. Now, the big question is - In it's current condition (everything is complete minus the top plate for the air cleaner) is this engine and 5 speed unit worth anything in the used market? Looking at the rebuild prices for the 1600 and comparing it with a later fuel injected KA24 or SR20 from Nissan, the late model engines are the way to go. You get a complete engine, transmission, wiring harness and ECU for the cost of the parts alone for a rebuild of the 1600. I'd like the nostalgic feel of running it with the 1600, but for a smaller investment a larger displacement, fuel efficient and more powerful engine could be had. Its a shame since the 1600 only has 61,000 miles on it. The good news is I have a brand new set of points and condenser for it. :o) -- Brian Smith From bradandgayle at charter.net Sat Jun 7 10:16:18 2008 From: bradandgayle at charter.net (Brad and Gayle Holmes) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 11:16:18 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Got time? Message-ID: Dear listers I'm working on the dash/instruments of my wife's 70 - 2000 automatic and found a gear in the clock has decided to detach itself and do the shake rattle and roll inside the housing. There was a thread a while back about instrument repair and I can't locate any info on it and yes, I've looked on 311. Anyone know of a shop or person who can repair the roadster clock or does anyone/vendor have a good running and as accurate as they get clock they want to sell? Thanks Brad Holmes SEROC Montgomery, AL From stathy at shaw.ca Sat Jun 7 10:39:34 2008 From: stathy at shaw.ca (stan) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:39:34 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Got time? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c8c8bd$11bcf730$6500a8c0@g71901fc8f5974> Although not "original", have you considered a Borg quartz conversion? I did one with my Mustang and it's run flawlessly. The added bonus is that it's more accurate and the appearance of your clock doesn't change. Best of luck Stan -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+stathy=shaw.ca at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+stathy=shaw.ca at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad and Gayle Holmes Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 9:16 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Got time? Dear listers I'm working on the dash/instruments of my wife's 70 - 2000 automatic and found a gear in the clock has decided to detach itself and do the shake rattle and roll inside the housing. There was a thread a while back about instrument repair and I can't locate any info on it and yes, I've looked on 311. Anyone know of a shop or person who can repair the roadster clock or does anyone/vendor have a good running and as accurate as they get clock they want to sell? Thanks Brad Holmes SEROC Montgomery, AL You are subscribed as stathy at shaw.ca Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From tminerpcav at aol.com Sat Jun 7 12:13:22 2008 From: tminerpcav at aol.com (tminerpcav at aol.com) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 14:13:22 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Got time? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CA96E14E27B3C8-D5C-704@webmail-nc04.sysops.aol.com> Brad, You might call Jon Frampton "The Gauge Expert"?, he knows a thing or two about gauges (and everything else). He can befound lurking on this list. Tim Miner -----Original Message----- From: Brad and Gayle Holmes To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 9:16 am Subject: [Roadsters] Got time? Dear listers I'm working on the dash/instruments of my wife's 70 - 2000 automatic and found a gear in the clock has decided to detach itself and do the shake rattle and roll inside the housing. There was a thread a while back about instrument repair and I can't locate any info on it and yes, I've looked on 311. Anyone know of a shop or person who can repair the roadster clock or does anyone/vendor have a good running and as accurate as they get clock they want to sell? Thanks Brad Holmes SEROC Montgomery, AL You are subscribed as tminerpcav at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From drreich48 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 7 13:21:11 2008 From: drreich48 at yahoo.com (DeWayne Reichert) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 12:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Jumping 4th ( update ) Message-ID: <370655.35596.qm@web90605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ok so I have the tranny out and the cases apart, it looks like that the 4th gear does not fully mesh with the sencro. Whats up with that? Spacer or bushing in the wrong place? Gears not completely pressed in place? It shifts ok but only seem to go 1/2 way on to 4th gear. It does not snap onto it like the rest of the gears. Thanks for your thoughts DeWayne & Jeanne 68 SRL 311 Ps. whahoo I checked the frame #'s and engine #'s, with the body tag and we have one stock matching #'s SRL 311 DeWayne Reichert wrote: Long story I'll try to make short. We've had our roadster for a year now and it's time to get it summer ready. I've rebuilt the brakes, replaced the bearings, put in longer front studs. But I still have one thing left to fix. My 5 speed transmission jumps out of 4th gear. The guy we bought it from said he had it rebuilt and it looks like it (new paint and gaskets) It shifts fine no grinding or forcing it into gear. But you put the power to 4th and out it jumps. Any ideas or thoughts before I tear into it would be great. Thanks DeWayne & Jeanne 68, 2000 SRL - 311 You are subscribed as drreich48 at yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net Sat Jun 7 14:28:37 2008 From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 14:28:37 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [Roadsters] Jumping 4th ( update ) Message-ID: <31135069.1212870517760.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> The coupling sleeves slide over the synchros. They are a weak spot of the 5 speed tranny, and often overlooked during rebuild. However, I am not sure why they won't slide over that 4th gear synchro??? Is there a burr on the outside of the synchro or inside the coupling sleeve? Dewey -----Original Message----- >From: DeWayne Reichert >Sent: Jun 7, 2008 1:21 PM >To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Jumping 4th ( update ) > >Ok so I have the tranny out and the cases apart, it looks like that the 4th gear does not fully mesh with the sencro. Whats up with that? Spacer or bushing in the wrong place? Gears not completely pressed in place? It shifts ok but only seem to go 1/2 way on to 4th gear. It does not snap onto it like the rest of the gears. > > Thanks for your thoughts > > DeWayne & Jeanne > 68 SRL 311 > > Ps. whahoo I checked the frame #'s and engine #'s, with the body tag and we have one stock matching #'s SRL 311 >DeWayne Reichert wrote: > Long story I'll try to make short. >We've had our roadster for a year now and it's time to get it summer ready. I've rebuilt the brakes, replaced the bearings, put in longer front studs. But I still have one thing left to fix. My 5 speed transmission jumps out of 4th gear. The guy we bought it from said he had it rebuilt and it looks like it (new paint and gaskets) It shifts fine no grinding or forcing it into gear. But you put the power to 4th and out it jumps. Any ideas or thoughts before I tear into it would be great. > >Thanks >DeWayne & Jeanne >68, 2000 >SRL - 311 >You are subscribed as drreich48 at yahoo.com > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as hahlbohmd at earthlink.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ktmaustin at sbcglobal.net Sat Jun 7 21:37:05 2008 From: ktmaustin at sbcglobal.net (Kevin McDonald) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 22:37:05 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] pjg References: <31135069.1212870517760.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <038001c8c918$ecd99660$640110ac@ktmlt2> pinging jason gray hello, hello? ktm austin tx From alvingogi at hotmail.com Sun Jun 8 01:37:40 2008 From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 07:37:40 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] 2008 Blackhawk Datsun Show June 28 Message-ID: Time is flying! The 2008 ZONC Blackhawk Nissan/Datsun show will be on Saturday, June 28 at the Blackhawk Museum in San Ramon, CA.Registration details here:http://www.zonc.org/eventregistration.html http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/1361518486071738522VRQDWd Last year we had only 3-4 roadsters, let's have more like previous yearsAlvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ Instantly invite friends from Facebook and other social networks to join you on Windows Live Messenger. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_InviteFriends From stathy at shaw.ca Sun Jun 8 01:57:13 2008 From: stathy at shaw.ca (stan) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 00:57:13 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] panasport wheels Message-ID: <000001c8c93d$42edae00$6500a8c0@g71901fc8f5974> Hi list Before I make a mistake could anyone out there tell me if 14" x 6 or 14" x 6.5" with 22 offset wheels work on a late model roadster? There is a set for sale locally but it's one of those "no return" deals. I'd hate to get stuck with these if they don't work. Thanks for any and all help Cheers Stan From RoadsterGB at aol.com Sun Jun 8 08:43:53 2008 From: RoadsterGB at aol.com (RoadsterGB at aol.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 10:43:53 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] www.fairlady.org - Latest 'image of the month' Message-ID: Hi All This month's pic is a nice photo of New York racer Don Goodrich from 1965. If anyone has any info on Don I'd be pleased to hear it. See _www.datsun.org/fairlady/June2008.htm_ (http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/June2008.htm) Not sure if you saw the May image of the month at _www.datsun.org/fairlady/May2008.htm_ (http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/May2008.htm) - a great vintage BRE race car advert. Best from England - Rob From alvingogi at hotmail.com Sun Jun 8 11:00:47 2008 From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 17:00:47 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] panasport wheels In-Reply-To: <000001c8c93d$42edae00$6500a8c0@g71901fc8f5974> References: <000001c8c93d$42edae00$6500a8c0@g71901fc8f5974> Message-ID: 14x6 +15 is the "correct" offset. +22 might bring the wheel spokes closer to the front calipers, and sway bar at full lock. the 6.5" wide wheel might exacerbate this. If they are available locally can you push the seller to test fit before buying? Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 > Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 00:57:13 -0700> From: stathy at shaw.ca> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] panasport wheels> > Hi list> Before I make a mistake could anyone out there tell me if 14" x 6 or 14"> x 6.5" with 22 offset wheels work on a late model roadster?> There is a set for sale locally but it's one of those "no return" deals.> I'd hate to get stuck with these if they don't work.> > Thanks for any and all help> Cheers> > Stan> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as alvingogi at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Its easy to add contacts from Facebook and other social sites through Windows Live Messenger. Learn how. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnHow From d-solomon at comcast.net Sun Jun 8 16:56:19 2008 From: d-solomon at comcast.net (Daniel Solomon) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:56:19 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Message-ID: <484C6393.8050509@comcast.net> would somebody please unsubscribe me? i've been through the whole "unsubscribe" stuff.... and i even got a confirmation that i was unsubscribed.... but i'm not. From gsglasgow at comcast.net Sun Jun 8 17:10:00 2008 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:10:00 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <484C6393.8050509@comcast.net> References: <484C6393.8050509@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000601c8c9bc$c7da3460$578e9d20$@net> Nobody here on this list has the ability to unsubscribe another. If you have gone through the unsubscribe process and gotten a confirmation of such, and you are still getting email for this list, there may be a bug in the software somewhere. Like it says in the monthly reminder that is sent out to all subscribers: "If you have questions, problems, comments, etc, send them to mailman-owner at autox.team.net." Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daniel Solomon Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 3:56 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) would somebody please unsubscribe me? i've been through the whole "unsubscribe" stuff.... and i even got a confirmation that i was unsubscribed.... but i'm not. Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From escanlon at wa-net.com Sun Jun 8 17:55:11 2008 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:55:11 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) References: <484C6393.8050509@comcast.net> Message-ID: <009501c8c9c3$16e57000$0300a8c0@HPW> Might you have a second e-mail address ALSO receiving mail? If not, look in your received mail and just a few days ago you should have received a reminder from autox.team.net with your account e-mail AND your password for the mail-list. Use the e-mail address and your password at: http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters to sign in, THEN just click the big unsubscribe button. HTH E > would somebody please unsubscribe me? > i've been through the whole "unsubscribe" stuff.... and i even got a > confirmation that i was unsubscribed.... > but i'm not. > ________________________________________ From drreich48 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 8 22:58:13 2008 From: drreich48 at yahoo.com (DeWayne Reichert) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:58:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Jumping 4th ( update ) (update to the update ) Message-ID: <953383.18608.qm@web90608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Well the tranny is now in pieces laying in order thay came out in. Everything looks good, feels smooth, except. Thats right a BIG THANKS to dewey for the insight. The coupling sleeve was full of burrs on the 4th gear side. Not sure why or how, but if youflip it over and use the side that was 3rd gear . Snap it goes right on to 4th with a nice tight fit. So once agin thank you all for your input. DeWayne 68 SRL 311 Ps. dumb ? of the day whats the differance in the SRL & SPL From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 9 07:47:11 2008 From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 06:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Jumping 4th ( update ) (update to the update ) In-Reply-To: <953383.18608.qm@web90608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <318108.14543.qm@web63711.mail.re1.yahoo.com> SP(L) Datsun Sport (1600)(Left hand Drive) (SP was right hand) SR(L) Datsun Sport (Racing) (2000) (LHD) (SR was right hand) Mike, SC PS There are no dumb questions, well on second thought, I have heard a few, but not this one... --- On Mon, 6/9/08, DeWayne Reichert wrote: > From: DeWayne Reichert > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Jumping 4th ( update ) (update to the update ) > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Monday, June 9, 2008, 12:58 AM > Well the tranny is now in pieces laying in order thay came > out in. Everything looks good, feels smooth, except. Thats > right a BIG THANKS to dewey for the insight. The coupling > sleeve was full of burrs on the 4th gear side. Not sure why > or how, but if youflip it over and use the side that was 3rd > gear . Snap it goes right on to 4th with a nice tight fit. > So once agin thank you all for your input. > > DeWayne > 68 SRL 311 > > Ps. dumb ? of the day whats the differance in the SRL > & SPL > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 9 09:46:34 2008 From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:46:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] SPL vs SRL (was Re: Jumping 4th ( update ) (update to the update )) In-Reply-To: <318108.14543.qm@web63711.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <791871.29694.qm@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I think Mike meant to say: SPL = 1600 (R16 Engine) SRL = 2000 (U20 Engine) The 'L' in SP(L) or SR(L) denotes whether it is a left hand drive. Dan Zubkoff Houston, TX Mike Harper wrote: SP(L) Datsun Sport (1600)(Left hand Drive) (SP was right hand) SR(L) Datsun Sport (Racing) (2000) (LHD) (SR was right hand) Mike, SC PS There are no dumb questions, well on second thought, I have heard a few, but not this one... --- On Mon, 6/9/08, DeWayne Reichert wrote: > From: DeWayne Reichert > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Jumping 4th ( update ) (update to the update ) > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Monday, June 9, 2008, 12:58 AM > Well the tranny is now in pieces laying in order thay came > out in. Everything looks good, feels smooth, except. Thats > right a BIG THANKS to dewey for the insight. The coupling > sleeve was full of burrs on the 4th gear side. Not sure why > or how, but if youflip it over and use the side that was 3rd > gear . Snap it goes right on to 4th with a nice tight fit. > So once agin thank you all for your input. > > DeWayne > 68 SRL 311 > > Ps. dumb ? of the day whats the differance in the SRL > & SPL > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as zubkoff at sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 9 09:49:11 2008 From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:49:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] SPL vs SRL (was Re: Jumping 4th ( update ) (update to the update )) In-Reply-To: <791871.29694.qm@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <620360.57883.qm@web81706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Upon review of Mike's email, he was correct (But I misread). Sory. Dan Dan Zubkoff wrote: I think Mike meant to say: SPL = 1600 (R16 Engine) SRL = 2000 (U20 Engine) The 'L' in SP(L) or SR(L) denotes whether it is a left hand drive. Dan Zubkoff Houston, TX Mike Harper wrote: SP(L) Datsun Sport (1600)(Left hand Drive) (SP was right hand) SR(L) Datsun Sport (Racing) (2000) (LHD) (SR was right hand) Mike, SC PS There are no dumb questions, well on second thought, I have heard a few, but not this one... --- On Mon, 6/9/08, DeWayne Reichert wrote: > From: DeWayne Reichert > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Jumping 4th ( update ) (update to the update ) > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Monday, June 9, 2008, 12:58 AM > Well the tranny is now in pieces laying in order thay came > out in. Everything looks good, feels smooth, except. Thats > right a BIG THANKS to dewey for the insight. The coupling > sleeve was full of burrs on the 4th gear side. Not sure why > or how, but if youflip it over and use the side that was 3rd > gear . Snap it goes right on to 4th with a nice tight fit. > So once agin thank you all for your input. > > DeWayne > 68 SRL 311 > > Ps. dumb ? of the day whats the differance in the SRL > & SPL > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as zubkoff at sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as zubkoff at sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net Mon Jun 9 11:22:47 2008 From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:22:47 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [Roadsters] Jumping 4th ( update ) (update to the update ) Message-ID: <25210610.1213032167929.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> DeWayne, will your 3rd gear work OK with that flipped over? Just had to ask, Dewey -----Original Message----- >From: Mike Harper >Sent: Jun 9, 2008 7:47 AM >To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net, DeWayne Reichert >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Jumping 4th ( update ) (update to the update ) > >SP(L) Datsun Sport (1600)(Left hand Drive) (SP was right hand) >SR(L) Datsun Sport (Racing) (2000) (LHD) (SR was right hand) > >Mike, SC > >PS There are no dumb questions, well on second thought, I have heard a few, but not this one... > > >--- On Mon, 6/9/08, DeWayne Reichert wrote: > >> From: DeWayne Reichert >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Jumping 4th ( update ) (update to the update ) >> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Date: Monday, June 9, 2008, 12:58 AM >> Well the tranny is now in pieces laying in order thay came >> out in. Everything looks good, feels smooth, except. Thats >> right a BIG THANKS to dewey for the insight. The coupling >> sleeve was full of burrs on the 4th gear side. Not sure why >> or how, but if youflip it over and use the side that was 3rd >> gear . Snap it goes right on to 4th with a nice tight fit. >> So once agin thank you all for your input. >> >> DeWayne >> 68 SRL 311 >> >> Ps. dumb ? of the day whats the differance in the SRL >> & SPL >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as hahlbohmd at earthlink.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From davesmbox at aol.com Mon Jun 9 18:12:42 2008 From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:12:42 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters Message-ID: <8CA98A5D63220C7-4F4-286A@FWM-D09.sysops.aol.com> The 1600 has been off the road for 2 years. Flushed the fuel,changed the filter and carb filters. New plugs. New fuel hoses. Had Lou Ann sit in car ,pull choke and fire it up while I did the starter fluid. Fired up ran ok but wouldn,t rev or idle while I played with the coke and throttle under the hood. Ran like shit 5 minutes later of really rough running "DAVE? CAN I STOP TURNING THE KEY NOW?" AAAAAHHHHHHHHHH Dave From aultgc at att.net Mon Jun 9 20:23:41 2008 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:23:41 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Jumping 4th ( update ) (update to the update ) References: <953383.18608.qm@web90608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001601c8caa1$004e8370$6402a8c0@gaxp1> DeWayne, Mike Harper's answer is technically correct, but more descriptive is: About 10 pounds (penalty), and, with SUs, about 40 horsepower and 30 pounds-feet of torque, in favor of the SRL. Take it from someone who transplanted a 2000 into a '66-1600. It transforms the car. (Now we'll hear from the guys who put 240SX and other modern)motors and trannies into theirs, which I will acknowledge up front transforms the car a lot more.) Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: "DeWayne Reichert" To: Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Jumping 4th ( update ) (update to the update ) > Well the tranny is now in pieces laying in order thay came out in. > Everything looks good, feels smooth, except. Thats right a BIG THANKS to > dewey for the insight. The coupling sleeve was full of burrs on the 4th > gear side. Not sure why or how, but if youflip it over and use the side > that was 3rd gear . Snap it goes right on to 4th with a nice tight fit. So > once agin thank you all for your input. > > DeWayne > 68 SRL 311 > > Ps. dumb ? of the day whats the differance in the SRL & SPL > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov Tue Jun 10 06:13:11 2008 From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:13:11 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters In-Reply-To: <8CA98A5D63220C7-4F4-286A@FWM-D09.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CA98A5D63220C7-4F4-286A@FWM-D09.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76AC48CE@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> Now, that is classic!! My wife stays out of the shop, but my 10 year old daughter is showing interest - better train her well now..... -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team .net] On Behalf Of davesmbox at aol.com Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 7:13 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters The 1600 has been off the road for 2 years. Flushed the fuel,changed the filter and carb filters. New plugs. New fuel hoses. Had Lou Ann sit in car ,pull choke and fire it up while I did the starter fluid. Fired up ran ok but wouldn,t rev or idle while I played with the coke and throttle under the hood. Ran like shit 5 minutes later of really rough running "DAVE? CAN I STOP TURNING THE KEY NOW?" AAAAAHHHHHHHHHH Dave You are subscribed as phillip.b.hall at msfc.nasa.gov Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov Tue Jun 10 06:16:17 2008 From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:16:17 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Jumping 4th ( update ) (update to the update ) In-Reply-To: <001601c8caa1$004e8370$6402a8c0@gaxp1> References: <953383.18608.qm@web90608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001601c8caa1$004e8370$6402a8c0@gaxp1> Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76AC48D3@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> Agreed. Ran 1600's for 30 years and a couple of years ago bought a 2000. Yep, the 2000 power is perfect for a Roadster. Still think the 1600 is magic around town.... -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team .net] On Behalf Of Gary and Cindy Ault Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 9:24 PM To: DeWayne Reichert; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Jumping 4th ( update ) (update to the update ) DeWayne, Mike Harper's answer is technically correct, but more descriptive is: About 10 pounds (penalty), and, with SUs, about 40 horsepower and 30 pounds-feet of torque, in favor of the SRL. Take it from someone who transplanted a 2000 into a '66-1600. It transforms the car. (Now we'll hear from the guys who put 240SX and other modern)motors and trannies into theirs, which I will acknowledge up front transforms the car a lot more.) Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: "DeWayne Reichert" To: Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Jumping 4th ( update ) (update to the update ) > Well the tranny is now in pieces laying in order thay came out in. > Everything looks good, feels smooth, except. Thats right a BIG THANKS to > dewey for the insight. The coupling sleeve was full of burrs on the 4th > gear side. Not sure why or how, but if youflip it over and use the side > that was 3rd gear . Snap it goes right on to 4th with a nice tight fit. So > once agin thank you all for your input. > > DeWayne > 68 SRL 311 > > Ps. dumb ? of the day whats the differance in the SRL & SPL From pjmill at sonic.net Tue Jun 10 11:27:32 2008 From: pjmill at sonic.net (pjmill at sonic.net) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters In-Reply-To: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76AC48CE@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> References: <8CA98A5D63220C7-4F4-286A@FWM-D09.sysops.aol.com> <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76AC48CE@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <24023.151.151.73.171.1213118852.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net> In order to hopefully allay the email firestorm you guys are right on the edge of.... ;-) I would just add that my love is brilliant with mechanics! She is the go-to person in her office with folks that have cars problems. I'm quite sure she could tune the engine, swap out a clutch or do a brake overhaul if she needed to! Paul > Now, that is classic!! > > My wife stays out of the shop, but my 10 year old daughter is showing > interest - better train her well now..... > > -----Original Message----- > From: > datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team > .net] On Behalf Of davesmbox at aol.com > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 7:13 PM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters > > The 1600 has been off the road for 2 years. Flushed the fuel,changed the > filter and carb filters. New plugs. New fuel hoses. > Had Lou Ann sit in car ,pull choke and fire it up while I did the > starter fluid. > Fired up ran ok but wouldn,t rev or idle while I played with the coke > and throttle under the hood. Ran like shit > 5 minutes later of really rough running > "DAVE? CAN I STOP TURNING THE KEY NOW?" > > AAAAAHHHHHHHHHH > Dave > You are subscribed as phillip.b.hall at msfc.nasa.gov > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pjmill at sonic.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com Tue Jun 10 12:08:17 2008 From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] test Message-ID: <645983.12104.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> is this thing on? From tputland at charter.net Tue Jun 10 12:26:09 2008 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:26:09 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] test In-Reply-To: <645983.12104.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080610142609.7D0JG.190787.root@fepweb05> yes just real quiet lately. -- Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- steven boortz wrote: ============= is this thing on? ________________________________________ From fairlady66 at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 13:09:47 2008 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:09:47 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] test In-Reply-To: <645983.12104.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <645983.12104.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Mine is on now...Just flipped the switch :o) On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:08 AM, steven boortz < vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com> wrote: > is this thing on? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fairlady66 at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov Tue Jun 10 13:29:28 2008 From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:29:28 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] test In-Reply-To: References: <645983.12104.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76AC4BD3@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> I leaned some wisdom from a fellow SEROCer - During a discussion of the newest cars in the magazines, He said "put down all the auto magazines and spent the time working on the Roadster". I think people are working on/driving their Roadsters and no time to sit and talk - especially on a silly computer.... -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris & Christy Breyer Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:10 PM To: steven boortz Cc: roadsters Subject: Re: [Roadsters] test Mine is on now...Just flipped the switch :o) On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:08 AM, steven boortz < vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com> wrote: > is this thing on? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fairlady66 at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. From tom at datsun2000.com Tue Jun 10 13:58:36 2008 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:58:36 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] test In-Reply-To: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76AC4BD3@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: Good observation. I have been busy installing a minor modification to Mr. Hyde. He is receiving a hydrogen generator in the trunk. It is now mounted, wired, and producing hydrogen and oxygen gas from water. Next comes the plumbing and installation of a modified air cleaner base to feed the gas to the air intake at the carbs. Mr. Hyde does not have any computers, or anything else to foul up the results. I should be able to prove, or disprove, the claims of increased octane rating around 108 from regular fuel (Mr. Hyde requires 92 octane or better), increased mileage, and very low emissions. We will see. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com Pictures posted in the tech section http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03) Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:29 PM To: Chris & Christy Breyer; steven boortz Cc: roadsters Subject: Re: [Roadsters] test I leaned some wisdom from a fellow SEROCer - During a discussion of the newest cars in the magazines, He said "put down all the auto magazines and spent the time working on the Roadster". I think people are working on/driving their Roadsters and no time to sit and talk - especially on a silly computer.... -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris & Christy Breyer Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:10 PM To: steven boortz Cc: roadsters Subject: Re: [Roadsters] test Mine is on now...Just flipped the switch :o) On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:08 AM, steven boortz < vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com> wrote: > is this thing on? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fairlady66 at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. You are subscribed as tom at datsun2000.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov Tue Jun 10 14:04:25 2008 From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:04:25 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] test In-Reply-To: References: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76AC4BD3@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76AC4C2A@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> Tom - Are you serious???? I thought a hydrogen generator was expensive and power consuming. You must give us more information. -----Original Message----- From: Tom @ Datsun2000 [mailto:tom at datsun2000.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:59 PM To: Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03); Chris & Christy Breyer; steven boortz Cc: roadsters Subject: RE: [Roadsters] test Good observation. I have been busy installing a minor modification to Mr. Hyde. He is receiving a hydrogen generator in the trunk. It is now mounted, wired, and producing hydrogen and oxygen gas from water. Next comes the plumbing and installation of a modified air cleaner base to feed the gas to the air intake at the carbs. Mr. Hyde does not have any computers, or anything else to foul up the results. I should be able to prove, or disprove, the claims of increased octane rating around 108 from regular fuel (Mr. Hyde requires 92 octane or better), increased mileage, and very low emissions. We will see. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com Pictures posted in the tech section http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03) Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:29 PM To: Chris & Christy Breyer; steven boortz Cc: roadsters Subject: Re: [Roadsters] test I leaned some wisdom from a fellow SEROCer - During a discussion of the newest cars in the magazines, He said "put down all the auto magazines and spent the time working on the Roadster". I think people are working on/driving their Roadsters and no time to sit and talk - especially on a silly computer.... -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris & Christy Breyer Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:10 PM To: steven boortz Cc: roadsters Subject: Re: [Roadsters] test Mine is on now...Just flipped the switch :o) On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:08 AM, steven boortz < vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com> wrote: > is this thing on? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fairlady66 at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. You are subscribed as tom at datsun2000.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From RWM at RWMann.com Tue Jun 10 14:13:14 2008 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:13:14 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] test In-Reply-To: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76AC4C2A@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> References: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76AC4BD3@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76AC4C2A@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <484EE05A.4010203@RWMann.com> This can only mean we are on the verge of the first perpetual motion Roadster. Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03) wrote: >Tom - > >Are you serious???? I thought a hydrogen generator was expensive and >power consuming. You must give us more information. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Tom @ Datsun2000 [mailto:tom at datsun2000.com] >Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:59 PM >To: Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03); Chris & Christy Breyer; steven boortz >Cc: roadsters >Subject: RE: [Roadsters] test > >Good observation. > >I have been busy installing a minor modification to Mr. Hyde. He is >receiving a hydrogen generator in the trunk. It is now mounted, wired, >and producing hydrogen and oxygen gas from water. Next comes the >plumbing and installation of a modified air cleaner base to feed the gas >to the air intake at the carbs. Mr. Hyde does not have any computers, >or anything else to foul up the results. I should be able to prove, or >disprove, the claims of increased octane rating around 108 from regular >fuel (Mr. Hyde requires >92 octane or better), increased mileage, and very low emissions. We >will see. > >Tom >69 2000 - Mr. Hyde >Portland >http://www.datsun2000.com Pictures posted in the tech section >http://www.nowroc.org > >-----Original Message----- >From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net >[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On >Behalf Of Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03) >Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:29 PM >To: Chris & Christy Breyer; steven boortz >Cc: roadsters >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] test > > > I leaned some wisdom from a fellow SEROCer - During a discussion of the >newest cars in the magazines, He said "put down all the auto magazines >and spent the time working on the Roadster". > >I think people are working on/driving their Roadsters and no time to sit >and talk - especially on a silly computer.... > >-----Original Message----- >From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net >[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net] >On Behalf Of Chris & Christy Breyer >Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:10 PM >To: steven boortz >Cc: roadsters >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] test > >Mine is on now...Just flipped the switch :o) > > > > >On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:08 AM, steven boortz < >vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com> wrote: > > > >>is this thing on? From tminerpcav at aol.com Tue Jun 10 16:42:05 2008 From: tminerpcav at aol.com (tminerpcav at aol.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:42:05 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters In-Reply-To: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76AC48CE@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> References: <8CA98A5D63220C7-4F4-286A@FWM-D09.sysops.aol.com> <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76AC48CE@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <8CA9962568FDF9A-E54-BDF@webmail-nf04.sim.aol.com> Hey All, I've got a "gearhead" 10 year old daughter as well. She's extremely interested in the cars. Tim Miner ---- Original Message ---- From: Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03) To: davesmbox at aol.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 5:13 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters Now, that is classic!! My wife stays out of the shop, but my 10 year old daughter is showing interest - better train her well now..... -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team .net] On Behalf Of davesmbox at aol.com Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 7:13 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters The 1600 has been off the road for 2 years. Flushed the fuel,changed the filter and carb filters. New plugs. New fuel hoses. Had Lou Ann sit in car ,pull choke and fire it up while I did the starter fluid. Fired up ran ok but wouldn,t rev or idle while I played with the coke and throttle under the hood. Ran like shit 5 minutes later of really rough running "DAVE? CAN I STOP TURNING THE KEY NOW?" AAAAAHHHHHHHHHH Dave You are subscribed as phillip.b.hall at msfc.nasa.gov Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as tminerpcav at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca From ljordan704 at netscape.net Tue Jun 10 16:59:40 2008 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:59:40 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters In-Reply-To: <8CA9962568FDF9A-E54-BDF@webmail-nf04.sim.aol.com> References: <8CA98A5D63220C7-4F4-286A@FWM-D09.sysops.aol.com> <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76AC48CE@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> <8CA9962568FDF9A-E54-BDF@webmail-nf04.sim.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CA9964CC647435-55C-1EAB@FWM-M12.sysops.aol.com> Let's encourage all our little girls to be all they want to be... Thanks, Hillary!! Linda -----Original Message----- From: tminerpcav at aol.com To: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov; davesmbox at aol.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 3:42 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters Hey All, I've got a "gearhead" 10 year old daughter as well. She's extremely interested in the cars. Tim Miner ---- Original Message ---- From: Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03) To: davesmbox at aol.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 5:13 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters Now, that is classic!! My wife stays out of the shop, but my 10 year old daughter is showing interest - better train her well now..... -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team .net] On Behalf Of davesmbox at aol.com Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 7:13 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters The 1600 has been off the road for 2 years. Flushed the fuel,changed the filter and carb filters. New plugs. New fuel hoses. Had Lou Ann sit in car ,pull choke and fire it up while I did the starter fluid. Fired up ran ok but wouldn,t rev or idle while I played with the coke and throttle under the hood. Ran like shit 5 minutes later of really rough running "DAVE? CAN I STOP TURNING THE KEY NOW?" AAAAAHHHHHHHHHH Dave You are subscribed as phillip.b.hall at msfc.nasa.gov Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as tminerpcav at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ljordan704 at netscape.net Tue Jun 10 17:03:57 2008 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:03:57 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] My recent photo shoot Message-ID: <8CA996565D70DA1-55C-1EDF@FWM-M12.sysops.aol.com> Hey guys, Here's a perfect excuse to buy a magazine with lots of cheesecake.......The July 08 Glamour magazine has my car in it! I recently did the shoot at a Rancho Palos Verde, CA park. Had to get there super early and spend all day. Tons of photos later and......they focused on the model! Well of course, it's a fashion magazine, not an auto rag The shoot was trying to recapture the look of Bridget Bardot , which the model bore a resemblance to, and some shots Bardot did: http://www.geocities.com/brigittebardot3/pictures3.html http://us.imdb.com/media/rm2055116800/nm0000003 And here's the new version: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2276479560071792546BULimy Enjoy, Linda 68 1600 From fergus06 at socal.rr.com Tue Jun 10 17:22:15 2008 From: fergus06 at socal.rr.com (Fergus OFarrell) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:22:15 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: NL320 on e-bay Message-ID: <003301c8cb50$d328ae60$e5bb1e18@fergus031a2176> while some of this may be termed "over-restoration", this is one nice piece. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1964-Datsun-NL320-Sport-Pickup-Truck-Rare-Rest ored_W0QQitemZ250257151409QQihZ015QQcategoryZ6188QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem From ruth at earlydatsun.com Tue Jun 10 18:16:56 2008 From: ruth at earlydatsun.com (Ruth) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:16:56 +1000 Subject: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters In-Reply-To: <24023.151.151.73.171.1213118852.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net> References: <8CA98A5D63220C7-4F4-286A@FWM-D09.sysops.aol.com> <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76AC48CE@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> <24023.151.151.73.171.1213118852.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net> Message-ID: Oddly enough, Paul, I had an email written last night that I decided not to send, about the stupid things the male members of our car club have achieved. Little things like for example installing a diff upside down, resulting in 5 reverse gears and one forward. And someone's son, who, when asked to fill the car with oil did just that. Filled it. Right up to the top of the rocker cover. I could go on. For every ditsy female there is an equally dumb man. But I won't. Nice to know that some people (thanks Paul!) recognise that we now live in the 21st century. Ruth On 11/06/2008, at 3:27 AM, pjmill at sonic.net wrote: > In order to hopefully allay the email firestorm you guys are right > on the > edge of.... ;-) > > I would just add that my love is brilliant with mechanics! She is the > go-to person in her office with folks that have cars problems. I'm > quite > sure she could tune the engine, swap out a clutch or do a brake > overhaul > if she needed to! > > Paul > >> Now, that is classic!! >> >> My wife stays out of the shop, but my 10 year old daughter is showing >> interest - better train her well now..... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: >> datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team.net >> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces >> +phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team >> .net] On Behalf Of davesmbox at aol.com >> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 7:13 PM >> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Subject: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters >> >> The 1600 has been off the road for 2 years. Flushed the >> fuel,changed the >> filter and carb filters. New plugs. New fuel hoses. >> Had Lou Ann sit in car ,pull choke and fire it up while I did the >> starter fluid. >> Fired up ran ok but wouldn,t rev or idle while I played with the coke >> and throttle under the hood. Ran like shit >> 5 minutes later of really rough running >> "DAVE? CAN I STOP TURNING THE KEY NOW?" >> >> AAAAAHHHHHHHHHH >> Dave >> You are subscribed as phillip.b.hall at msfc.nasa.gov >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as pjmill at sonic.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ruth at earlydatsun.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ruth at earlydatsun.com Tue Jun 10 18:21:03 2008 From: ruth at earlydatsun.com (Ruth) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:21:03 +1000 Subject: [Roadsters] My recent photo shoot In-Reply-To: <8CA996565D70DA1-55C-1EDF@FWM-M12.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CA996565D70DA1-55C-1EDF@FWM-M12.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C375DD8-7A5A-4004-9400-8377D57DCB5D@earlydatsun.com> You let her sit on your bonnet! 8-) On 11/06/2008, at 9:03 AM, ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: > Hey guys, > > > > > > Here's a perfect excuse to buy a magazine with lots of > cheesecake.......The July 08 Glamour magazine has my car in it! > > > I recently did the shoot at a Rancho Palos Verde, CA park. Had to get > there super early and spend all day. Tons of photos later > and......they > focused on the model! Well of course, it's a fashion magazine, not an > auto rag > > > The shoot was trying to recapture the look of Bridget Bardot , > which the model bore a resemblance to, and some shots Bardot did: > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/brigittebardot3/pictures3.html > > > http://us.imdb.com/media/rm2055116800/nm0000003 > > > > > > And here's the new version: > > > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2276479560071792546BULimy > > > > > > Enjoy, > > > > > > Linda > > > 68 1600 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ruth at earlydatsun.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From alvingogi at hotmail.com Tue Jun 10 18:47:42 2008 From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:47:42 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] My recent photo shoot In-Reply-To: <8C375DD8-7A5A-4004-9400-8377D57DCB5D@earlydatsun.com> References: <8CA996565D70DA1-55C-1EDF@FWM-M12.sysops.aol.com> <8C375DD8-7A5A-4004-9400-8377D57DCB5D@earlydatsun.com> Message-ID: Wow! That is excellent press for our cars!! I'd let her sit on my bonnet anyday! Just kidding, that poor hood would probably crumple. Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 > CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> From: ruth at earlydatsun.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:21:03 +1000> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] My recent photo shoot> > You let her sit on your bonnet! 8-)> > > On 11/06/2008, at 9:03 AM, ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote:> > > Hey guys,> >> >> >> >> >> > Here's a perfect excuse to buy a magazine with lots of > > cheesecake.......The July 08 Glamour magazine has my car in it!> >> >> > I recently did the shoot at a Rancho Palos Verde, CA park. Had to get> > there super early and spend all day. Tons of photos later > > and......they> > focused on the model! Well of course, it's a fashion magazine, not an> > auto rag> >> >> > The shoot was trying to recapture the look of Bridget Bardot , > > which the model bore a resemblance to, and some shots Bardot did:> >> >> >> >> >> > http://www.geocities.com/brigittebardot3/pictures3.html> >> >> > http://us.imdb.com/media/rm2055116800/nm0000003> >> >> >> >> >> > And here's the new version:> >> >> > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2276479560071792546BULimy> >> >> >> >> >> > Enjoy,> >> >> >> >> >> > Linda> >> >> > 68 1600> > ________________________________________> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> >> > You are subscribed as ruth at earlydatsun.com> >> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> >> > http://www.team.net/archive> >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as alvingogi at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Now you can invite friends from Facebook and other groups to join you on Windows Live Messenger. Add now. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_AddNow_Now From slowboy at cox.net Tue Jun 10 19:14:23 2008 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:14:23 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters References: <8CA98A5D63220C7-4F4-286A@FWM-D09.sysops.aol.com><85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76AC48CE@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov><24023.151.151.73.171.1213118852.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net> Message-ID: <002701c8cb60$7c37f4c0$0201a8c0@m7170n> I had a friend who bent his rear axle hopping a curb sideways. One day I found myself giving his girlfriend a ride to the salvage yard for a used axle since he had to work. At least that is what she had told me. When I went to drop her off and go home she asked me to hang out because she was going to change the rear axle. Neither one of the two of them have any experience at automotive repair and he always fights with me when I tell him to read the Chiltons manual. Apparently the night before, the two of them got into it about who could do what in regards to repairing this truck that had been sitting for more than a month. I watched her do it and handed her the tool she needed when she wanted it. The only thing I had her do extra was check the rear end fluid since she was there. When he got home I told him his girlfriend fixed his truck by reading the Chiltons manual and that she was a keeper. He was not happy and when he gives me a hard time about using a Chiltons manual I remind him about who fixed his rear end. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth" > I could go on. For every ditsy female there is an equally dumb man. > But I won't. > > Nice to know that some people (thanks Paul!) recognise that we now > live in the 21st century. From daveandlindab at comcast.net Tue Jun 10 19:13:52 2008 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:13:52 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters In-Reply-To: <24023.151.151.73.171.1213118852.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net> Message-ID: <000001c8cb60$6a885e40$6800a8c0@delled48909442> I must refrain from comment other than to say my Wife mows the lawn, she finds it relaxing. She has no mechanical ability whatsoever, so I have to start the mower for her. This annoys her because she has to wait for me to start it. I really don't want to annoy her because she may stop mowing the lawn, and then I'll have to do it. A minor part broke on the mower and needs to be replaced...I think it may have been sabotage. I'm buying her a brand new electric start lawnmower. Dave Brisco PS, A thunder storm just rolled in, Linda said "Go get the garbage cans put away....One may hit the roadster." I'm told I married well. ________________________________________________________________________ ____ -----Original Message----- From: pjmill at sonic.net [mailto:pjmill at sonic.net] In order to hopefully allay the email firestorm you guys are right on the edge of.... ;-) I would just add that my love is brilliant with mechanics! She is the go-to person in her office with folks that have cars problems. I'm quite sure she could tune the engine, swap out a clutch or do a brake overhaul if she needed to! > Subject: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters > > The 1600 has been off the road for 2 years. Flushed the fuel,changed the > filter and carb filters. New plugs. New fuel hoses. > Had Lou Ann sit in car ,pull choke and fire it up while I did the > starter fluid. > Fired up ran ok but wouldn,t rev or idle while I played with the coke > and throttle under the hood. Ran like shit > 5 minutes later of really rough running > "DAVE? CAN I STOP TURNING THE KEY NOW?" > > AAAAAHHHHHHHHHH > Dave From 9laser3 at bright.net Tue Jun 10 19:26:16 2008 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:26:16 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] My recent photo shoot In-Reply-To: <8C375DD8-7A5A-4004-9400-8377D57DCB5D@earlydatsun.com> References: <8CA996565D70DA1-55C-1EDF@FWM-M12.sysops.aol.com> <8C375DD8-7A5A-4004-9400-8377D57DCB5D@earlydatsun.com> Message-ID: <00e301c8cb62$275c40d0$7614c270$@net> The real questions is have you washed the hood yet? -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Ruth You let her sit on your bonnet! 8-) On 11/06/2008, at 9:03 AM, ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: > Hey guys, > > > > > > Here's a perfect excuse to buy a magazine with lots of > cheesecake.......The July 08 Glamour magazine has my car in it! > > > I recently did the shoot at a Rancho Palos Verde, CA park. Had to get > there super early and spend all day. Tons of photos later > and......they > focused on the model! Well of course, it's a fashion magazine, not an > auto rag > > > The shoot was trying to recapture the look of Bridget Bardot , > which the model bore a resemblance to, and some shots Bardot did: > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/brigittebardot3/pictures3.html > > > http://us.imdb.com/media/rm2055116800/nm0000003 > > > > > > And here's the new version: > > > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2276479560071792546BULimy > > > > > > Enjoy, > > > > > > Linda > > > 68 1600 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ruth at earlydatsun.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as 9laser3 at bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Tue Jun 10 19:51:12 2008 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:51:12 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] My recent photo shoot In-Reply-To: <8CA996565D70DA1-55C-1EDF@FWM-M12.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CA996565D70DA1-55C-1EDF@FWM-M12.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <484F2F90.4080007@sbcglobal.net> So - were the first words out of her mouth when she saw the car "What a cute car!". Every - and I mean EVERY - woman who sees my '70 2000 for the first time has said that... Gary McCormick San Jose, CA ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: >Hey guys, > > > > > >Here's a perfect excuse to buy a magazine with lots of cheesecake.......The July 08 Glamour magazine has my car in it! > > >I recently did the shoot at a Rancho Palos Verde, CA park. Had to get >there super early and spend all day. Tons of photos later and......they >focused on the model! Well of course, it's a fashion magazine, not an >auto rag > > >The shoot was trying to recapture the look of Bridget Bardot , which the model bore a resemblance to, and some shots Bardot did: > > > > > >http://www.geocities.com/brigittebardot3/pictures3.html > > >http://us.imdb.com/media/rm2055116800/nm0000003 > > > > > >And here's the new version: > > >http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2276479560071792546BULimy > > > > > >Enjoy, > > > > > >Linda > > >68 1600 >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as gkmcc at sbcglobal.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From daveandlindab at comcast.net Tue Jun 10 19:53:29 2008 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:53:29 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Jumping 4th ( update ) (update to the update ) In-Reply-To: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76AC48D3@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <000b01c8cb65$f513a560$6800a8c0@delled48909442> I really love a 1600 4 speed around town. The 2000 just isn't happy under 30 MPH. I have the H-20 bug. That best of both worlds thing. Picked up a forklift motor with 10,000 hours on it, (about 400,000 miles equivalent) amazingly little wear except the cylinder walls are wavy. Looks like it will need to be bored etc. Will drop it at the machine shop, get it balanced and blueprinted. The iron heads have potential. I'm going to build it as I have time. My U20 timing chains are a bit loose etc, so a backup motor would be nice. Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Jumping 4th ( update ) (update to the update ) Agreed. Ran 1600's for 30 years and a couple of years ago bought a 2000. Yep, the 2000 power is perfect for a Roadster. Still think the 1600 is magic around town.... From fred.davidson at sympatico.ca Tue Jun 10 20:12:27 2008 From: fred.davidson at sympatico.ca (Fred Davidson) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:12:27 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Carpeting Message-ID: <000f01c8cb68$9f576000$53f7d1d8@DDBHLZ81> Hi Folks: Has anyone any comments, suggestions or experience of where to buy the best fitting/quality carpeting for 1969 Roadster? I notice on the web there is a company called Stock Interiors that also has roadster carpeting as well as the our regular vendors. Thanks for any advice. Fred 1969 2000 Burritts Rapids, Ontario From ljordan704 at netscape.net Tue Jun 10 21:46:37 2008 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:46:37 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] My recent photo shoot In-Reply-To: <484F2F90.4080007@sbcglobal.net> References: <8CA996565D70DA1-55C-1EDF@FWM-M12.sysops.aol.com> <484F2F90.4080007@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <8CA998CE25DC3D0-870-889@webmail-nb15.sysops.aol.com> Absolutely. They all loved the car. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Gary McCormick To: ljordan704 at netscape.net Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 6:51 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] My recent photo shoot So - were the first words out of her mouth when she saw the car "What a cute car!". Every - and I mean EVERY - woman who sees my '70 2000 for the first time has said that...? ? Gary McCormick? San Jose, CA? ? From aultgc at att.net Wed Jun 11 00:01:56 2008 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:01:56 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Carpeting References: <000f01c8cb68$9f576000$53f7d1d8@DDBHLZ81> Message-ID: <006d01c8cb88$a7b29ab0$6402a8c0@gaxp1> Fred, I took my car to a local trim shop, who, using the old pieces as templates, made a custom-fit set. They made the floor carpet one piece from nose to tail, so it doesn't bunch or lift at the transverse seam in the "factory" carpet. Also, they put in vinyl rub pads where my feet had worn the existing carpet. In 1996, it cost $300.00. In my opinion, what I got is far better than any kit. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Davidson" To: "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:12 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Carpeting > Hi Folks: > > > > Has anyone any comments, suggestions or experience of where to buy the > best > fitting/quality carpeting for 1969 Roadster? I notice on the web there is > a > company called Stock Interiors that also has roadster carpeting as well as > the our regular vendors. > > > > Thanks for any advice. > > > > Fred > > > > 1969 2000 > > Burritts Rapids, Ontario > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Wed Jun 11 02:00:33 2008 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:00:33 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Jumping 4th ( update ) (update to the update ) In-Reply-To: <000b01c8cb65$f513a560$6800a8c0@delled48909442> References: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76AC48D3@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> <000b01c8cb65$f513a560$6800a8c0@delled48909442> Message-ID: FWIW 9000 miles x-country on a 1600 + 5 speed box Positives - mileage - low engine rpm - cruise @ 75 @ 3K - unbreakable - decent acceleration on 14 wheels (panasports) Negatives - lacks some grunt on steep inclines and high altitude Overall - would put stroker in to increase grunt while retaining unbreakability - next project after front end I'm happy Peter > From: daveandlindab at comcast.net> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:53:29 -0400> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Jumping 4th ( update ) (update to the update )> > I really love a 1600 4 speed around town. The 2000 just isn't happy> under 30 MPH.> I have the H-20 bug. That best of both worlds thing. Picked up a> forklift motor with 10,000 hours on it, (about 400,000 miles> equivalent) amazingly little wear except the cylinder walls are wavy.> Looks like it will need to be bored etc. Will drop it at the machine> shop, get it balanced and blueprinted. The iron heads have potential.> I'm going to build it as I have time. My U20 timing chains are a bit> loose etc, so a backup motor would be nice.> > Dave Brisco> > -----Original Message-----> > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Jumping 4th ( update ) (update to the update )> > Agreed. Ran 1600's for 30 years and a couple of years ago bought a> 2000. Yep, the 2000 power is perfect for a Roadster. Still think the> 1600 is magic around town....> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Wed Jun 11 02:05:29 2008 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:05:29 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] My recent photo shoot In-Reply-To: <00e301c8cb62$275c40d0$7614c270$@net> References: <8CA996565D70DA1-55C-1EDF@FWM-M12.sysops.aol.com> <8C375DD8-7A5A-4004-9400-8377D57DCB5D@earlydatsun.com> <00e301c8cb62$275c40d0$7614c270$@net> Message-ID: She can sit on my bonnet anytime - sorry just had to be crude occasionally (in public!) Another roadster out in the public view - can only be good! Peter From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Wed Jun 11 02:07:54 2008 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:07:54 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters In-Reply-To: <002701c8cb60$7c37f4c0$0201a8c0@m7170n> References: <8CA98A5D63220C7-4F4-286A@FWM-D09.sysops.aol.com><85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76AC48CE@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov><24023.151.151.73.171.1213118852.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net> <002701c8cb60$7c37f4c0$0201a8c0@m7170n> Message-ID: Sounds like she fixed his rear end in more ways than one! > From: slowboy at cox.net> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:14:23 -0700> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters> > I had a friend who bent his rear axle hopping a curb sideways. One day I > found myself giving his girlfriend a ride to the salvage yard for a used > axle since he had to work. At least that is what she had told me. When I > went to drop her off and go home she asked me to hang out because she was > going to change the rear axle. Neither one of the two of them have any > experience at automotive repair and he always fights with me when I tell him > to read the Chiltons manual. Apparently the night before, the two of them > got into it about who could do what in regards to repairing this truck that > had been sitting for more than a month. I watched her do it and handed her > the tool she needed when she wanted it. The only thing I had her do extra > was check the rear end fluid since she was there. When he got home I told > him his girlfriend fixed his truck by reading the Chiltons manual and that > she was a keeper. He was not happy and when he gives me a hard time about > using a Chiltons manual I remind him about who fixed his rear end.> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ruth" > > > I could go on. For every ditsy female there is an equally dumb man.> > But I won't.> >> > Nice to know that some people (thanks Paul!) recognise that we now> > live in the 21st century.> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Wed Jun 11 02:41:52 2008 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:41:52 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters In-Reply-To: References: <8CA98A5D63220C7-4F4-286A@FWM-D09.sysops.aol.com> <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76AC48CE@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> <24023.151.151.73.171.1213118852.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net> Message-ID: So, getting that women can,and do, fix and drive and fly - there are many famous examples in history = check out some of the women at Brooklands before the war -but I have to tell this little tale. My parents had a Hillman Imp back in England (think Corvair - only because the engine is in the back) My mother was impatient, my father forgetful - thus this dialog "Maurice (my father) - did you check the water in the car?" "No Ronnie(my mother), I didn't. I will do it right now!" "Never mind, I'll take care of it." With that, my mother filled up the watering can and took care of business. Off they went, and I settled down, with my then girlfriend, to an expected few hours of 'time passing' One hour passed when I heard some sounds in the driveway and looking out, I saw a tow truck pulling in with our little black Imp at the rear. The complexities of a rear engined car had eluded my mother and thus she filled the petrol tank with high octane H2O believing the radiator to be at the front (where in fairness, it always had been) rather than at the rear. And on the other hand There was a woman I used to hang with at my local bar back in the '70s' Tall, and indeed quite attractive, and a very good mechanic. She and her friend (blonde, and ditsy looking, though only when she wanted to be) would take 'malicious' delight in taking a car for 'diagnosis' by local mechanics. Her 'ditsy' friend would always be the owner and say 'ditsylike', there is something wrong with my car. Then the 'mechanic' would put on his macho mechanic hat and 'diagnose' and proclaim all the things (typically expensive and excessive) that needed fixing. Nancy would then 'innocently' ask 'Surely isn't it just (this or that), knowing full well that the fixes were minor and cheap. We had a lot of fun listening to her experiences and subtlely getting that the 'fairer' sex knows just as much as we do, if they are inclined to get it. The differernce is not in capability (just look at Hedy Lamarr's patents) but in experience or interest. And in any case = purely sexist - a woman driving a sports car looks so much better than a man (except for Ron Carter on the track ) FWIW Peter From Keith0alan at aol.com Wed Jun 11 07:01:35 2008 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:01:35 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters Message-ID: In a message dated 6/11/2008 1:42:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, granvillecomputing at hotmail.com writes: There was a woman I used to hang with at my local bar back in the '70s' Tall, and indeed quite attractive, and a very good mechanic. The hottest car in my high school was owned by a guy that had trouble filling the gas tank. His girlfriend (sounds a lot like your friend) was not only a great looker but an ace mechanic. Women who don't know anything about cars generally leave well enough alone. Too many guys who don't have a clue will jump right in and muck things up horribly because they think it's instinctive to the gender or something. keith "mucked up my share" williams **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) From matthews517 at earthlink.net Wed Jun 11 16:27:17 2008 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:27:17 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] My recent photo shoot In-Reply-To: <484F2F90.4080007@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: So what the hell did I do wrong then? I'm usually driving with Tater, my hound dog, in the passenger seat. Women love the dog, GUYS love the car! I was actually hoping, when I bought my car, that it would be a "chick magnet". Now I have to leave 20 minutes early no matter where I go, because some guy is going to tell me about his friend, dad, cousin, etc. who had a Datsun Roadster, 510, 210, Z, truck, whatever, and how great that car was and how much cooler this one is than that one. Linda, You may want to think about this when you "subject" your emails... Earthlink SpamBlocker dumped this whole thread into my "spam" bucket because of the title. HAHAHA! Matt Smith Waiting for more parts -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary McCormick Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:51 PM To: ljordan704 at netscape.net Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] My recent photo shoot So - were the first words out of her mouth when she saw the car "What a cute car!". Every - and I mean EVERY - woman who sees my '70 2000 for the first time has said that... Gary McCormick San Jose, CA ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: >Hey guys, > > > > > >Here's a perfect excuse to buy a magazine with lots of cheesecake.......The July 08 Glamour magazine has my car in it! > > >I recently did the shoot at a Rancho Palos Verde, CA park. Had to get >there super early and spend all day. Tons of photos later and......they >focused on the model! Well of course, it's a fashion magazine, not an >auto rag > > >The shoot was trying to recapture the look of Bridget Bardot , which the model bore a resemblance to, and some shots Bardot did: > > > > > >http://www.geocities.com/brigittebardot3/pictures3.html > > >http://us.imdb.com/media/rm2055116800/nm0000003 > > > > > >And here's the new version: > > >http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2276479560071792546BULimy > > > > > >Enjoy, > > > > > >Linda > > >68 1600 >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as gkmcc at sbcglobal.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as matthews517 at earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Jun 11 16:42:30 2008 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:42:30 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] My recent photo shoot Message-ID: <061120082242.27358.485054D60003294800006ADE2207300033CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> ...and your point is??? -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Matthew A. Smith" [snip] > Waiting for more parts From aultgc at att.net Wed Jun 11 20:32:29 2008 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:32:29 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters References: <8CA98A5D63220C7-4F4-286A@FWM-D09.sysops.aol.com><85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76AC48CE@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov><24023.151.151.73.171.1213118852.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net> <002701c8cb60$7c37f4c0$0201a8c0@m7170n> Message-ID: <000701c8cc34$8f9d1020$6402a8c0@gaxp1> Ah, Peter me boy. Someone had to have said it. Sure an' it may as well have been you! ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter harrison" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 3:07 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters > Sounds like she fixed his rear end in more ways than one! > >> From: slowboy at cox.net> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Tue, 10 > Jun 2008 18:14:23 -0700> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters> > I > had > a friend who bent his rear axle hopping a curb sideways. One day I > found > myself giving his girlfriend a ride to the salvage yard for a used > axle > since he had to work. At least that is what she had told me. When I > went > to > drop her off and go home she asked me to hang out because she was > going > to > change the rear axle. Neither one of the two of them have any > experience > at > automotive repair and he always fights with me when I tell him > to read > the > Chiltons manual. Apparently the night before, the two of them > got into > it > about who could do what in regards to repairing this truck that > had been > sitting for more than a month. I watched her do it and handed her > the > tool > she needed when she wanted it. The only thing I had her do extra > was > check > the rear end fluid since she was there. When he got home I told > him his > girlfriend fixed his truck by reading the Chiltons manual and that > she > was a > keeper. He was not happy and when he gives me a hard time about > using a > Chiltons manual I remind him about who fixed his rear end.> > ----- > Original > Message ----- > From: "Ruth" > > > I could go on. > For > every ditsy female there is an equally dumb man.> > But I won't.> >> > > Nice to > know that some people (thanks Paul!) recognise that we now> > live in the > 21st > century.> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net > http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as > granvillecomputing at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > > http://www.team.net/archive> > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From rob.dean at eftel.net.au Wed Jun 11 23:53:47 2008 From: rob.dean at eftel.net.au (Rob Dean) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:53:47 +1000 Subject: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters Message-ID: <000601c8cc50$b0aeb9f0$120c2dd0$@dean@eftel.net.au> Hi all and G'day from down under. Just a quick message to say it was my wife who spotted this Fairlady in a "Cut Copy" (Aussie band) film clip. Link is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN0K974SAtE Hard to be sure of the model due to the quality of the clip but probably a Japanese car as the director is Japanese and I'm assuming the clip was shot in Japan. Very wet and cold (11C, 52F) down here in Tasmania so back to work to try and keep warm. Peace all Rob Run rabbit run dig that hole, forget the sun and when at last the work is done don't sit down, it's time to dig another one From tputland at charter.net Thu Jun 12 05:10:07 2008 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 4:10:07 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters In-Reply-To: <8CA9962568FDF9A-E54-BDF@webmail-nf04.sim.aol.com> Message-ID: <20080612071007.Y61ZL.331697.root@fepweb16> Yea, little girls can be gear heads...(but only sometimes) up until they start to discover boys. I have seen it first hand with my youngest daughter. Oh well, they are going to grow up no matter what you do. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- tminerpcav at aol.com wrote: ============= Hey All, I've got a "gearhead" 10 year old daughter as well. She's extremely interested in the cars. Tim Miner ---- Original Message ---- From: Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03) To: davesmbox at aol.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 5:13 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters Now, that is classic!! My wife stays out of the shop, but my 10 year old daughter is showing interest - better train her well now..... -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team .net] On Behalf Of davesmbox at aol.com Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 7:13 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters The 1600 has been off the road for 2 years. Flushed the fuel,changed the filter and carb filters. New plugs. New fuel hoses. Had Lou Ann sit in car ,pull choke and fire it up while I did the starter fluid. Fired up ran ok but wouldn,t rev or idle while I played with the coke and throttle under the hood. Ran like shit 5 minutes later of really rough running "DAVE? CAN I STOP TURNING THE KEY NOW?" AAAAAHHHHHHHHHH Dave You are subscribed as phillip.b.hall at msfc.nasa.gov Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as tminerpcav at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca You are subscribed as tputland at charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From 9laser3 at bright.net Thu Jun 12 09:40:20 2008 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:40:20 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Women and Roadsters In-Reply-To: <20080612071007.Y61ZL.331697.root@fepweb16> References: <8CA9962568FDF9A-E54-BDF@webmail-nf04.sim.aol.com> <20080612071007.Y61ZL.331697.root@fepweb16> Message-ID: <000f01c8cca2$a370b520$ea521f60$@net> I crew for a father/daughter race team. Cathy Ann grew up in the paddocks at Nelson Ledges and MidOhio while dad raced a 1600 roadster. At 17, the SCCA changed its rules and lowered the age for drivers from 18 to 16 so she got her license and started sharing Dad's car. She rolled it in her second driver's school so dad bought her a 1600 for her to race. She has been racing it for over 11 years now and her daughter can't wait to join mom on the track. And in case you're thinking, yeah, she races but that's all, let me assure you that she can tear down and rebuild a R16 as well as I can. (Well, okay, better than I can!) And she has several 1st and 2nd place trophies in G Production for the Kryder Championship at Nelson Ledges over the years. Doubters can check in out at http://www.kryderacing.com/krseries/2002points.htm . And she just recently pulled two parts cars out of the race barn to rebuild into one street car for her to tool around in all week long. Paul Ohio From jedwabny at earthlink.net Thu Jun 12 10:55:18 2008 From: jedwabny at earthlink.net (Joseph Jedwabny) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:55:18 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Roadsters] OK, I give! Now I'll do the (minor)restore thing Message-ID: <17638036.1213289718394.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Good grief, OK, I've been unable to sell my 68/69 1600 having gotten a "high" bid of $3000 for her. Now I'm moving in two weeks and looks like I'll be taking her with me. Here is my decision: When she gets to WA state, I do a minor restore to include paint, new or re-chrome bumpers, and a general spiffing up of the inside. Is there a website, a book, and of course any fellow member advise on how to do this (or is it not much more to send it off to the pros, maybe someone in the Pacific Northwest. I'd even be open to the "frame off" restoration but I'm not Mr. Mechanical. Thanks in advance. Should you want to see her see mygoodstuff4sale.com. For now I'm busy packing boxes. Goodbye California, Joe From ljordan704 at netscape.net Thu Jun 12 19:14:39 2008 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:14:39 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] My recent photo shoot In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8CA9B09FC3360D8-D64-1907@webmail-nd11.sysops.aol.com> So let me see if I can translate here, Matt. You're not meeting enough hot chicks? Welllll, maybe you should get a nice pic of your car and submit it to a vehicle supplier to the movies, and ,oh yeah, FASHION magazines (LOL) and then you could have met a nice model and then stood there while she says your car is "cute" (LOL again) !! Linda 68 1600 -----Original Message----- From: Matthew A. Smith To: 'Gary McCormick' ; ljordan704 at netscape.net Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 3:27 pm Subject: RE: [Roadsters] My recent photo shoot So what the hell did I do wrong then? I'm usually driving with Tater, my hound dog, in the passenger seat. Women love the dog, GUYS love the car! I was actually hoping, when I bought my car, that it would be a "chick magnet". Now I have to leave 20 minutes early no matter where I go, because some guy is going to tell me about his friend, dad, cousin, etc. who had a Datsun Roadster, 510, 210, Z, truck, whatever, and how great that car was and how much cooler this one is than that one. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary McCormick Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:51 PM To: ljordan704 at netscape.net Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] My recent photo shoot So - were the first words out of her mouth when she saw the car "What a cute car!". Every - and I mean EVERY - woman who sees my '70 2000 for the first time has said that... Gary McCormick San Jose, CA From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Jun 12 22:35:43 2008 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:35:43 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] My recent photo shoot In-Reply-To: <8C375DD8-7A5A-4004-9400-8377D57DCB5D@earlydatsun.com> Message-ID: <600542F51F164839A5FF23F0F9058C96@xp> Could've been worse: ` ___ ' Pete - (O o) - ------------------ooO--(_)--Ooo---- Lake Forest Park, WA 1966 1600 SPL311 1966 L20B WPL411 1971 1.7L Porsche 914 plus 2 cars, a truck & a motorcycle -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ruth Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:21 PM Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] My recent photo shoot You let her sit on your bonnet! 8-) -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto: datsun-roadsters- bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ljordan704 at netscape.net Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:04 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] My recent photo shoot Hey guys, Here's a perfect excuse to buy a magazine with lots of cheesecake....... The July 08 Glamour magazine has my car in it! I recently did the shoot at a Rancho Palos Verde, CA park. Had to get there super early and spend all day. Tons of photos later and...... they focused on the model! Well of course, it's a fashion magazine, not an auto rag The shoot was trying to recapture the look of Bridget Bardot , which the model bore a resemblance to, and some shots Bardot did: http://www.geocities.com/brigittebardot3/pictures3.html http://us.imdb.com/media/rm2055116800/nm0000003 And here's the new version: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2276479560071792546BULimy Enjoy, Linda 68 1600 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Jun 12 23:01:38 2008 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:01:38 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Carpeting In-Reply-To: <000f01c8cb68$9f576000$53f7d1d8@DDBHLZ81> Message-ID: <4102C60B45404C2F818CAEE0F7BB2CEE@xp> Many folks have reported being very happy with the kits from Les and Dean. A recent thread on the Bluebirds list found a number of folks going Gary's route. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary and Cindy Ault Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:02 PM To: Fred Davidson; 'datsun-roadsters:autox.team.net' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Carpeting Fred, I took my car to a local trim shop, who, using the old pieces as templates, made a custom-fit set. They made the floor carpet one piece from nose to tail, so it doesn't bunch or lift at the transverse seam in the "factory" carpet. Also, they put in vinyl rub pads where my feet had worn the existing carpet. In 1996, it cost $300.00. In my opinion, what I got is far better than any kit. Gary -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Fred Davidson Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:12 PM To: 'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net' Subject: [Roadsters] Carpeting Hi Folks: Has anyone any comments, suggestions or experience of where to buy the best fitting/quality carpeting for 1969 Roadster? I notice on the web there is a company called Stock Interiors that also has roadster carpeting as well as the our regular vendors. Thanks for any advice. Fred 1969 2000 Burritts Rapids, Ontario ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From stebharvey at ameritech.net Fri Jun 13 06:48:28 2008 From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (steb) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:48:28 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Soft Top Metal Front Support Question Message-ID: <000a01c8cd53$eb4f94e0$4501a8c0@steb1> I found a metal front support piece in my attic an am not sure if it is for a low windshield or high windshield model. Is there a difference between the two? If it's a low and someone needs one, let me know. Steve Harvey Milwaukee From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com Fri Jun 13 11:19:41 2008 From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:19:41 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Glamour Magazine Message-ID: I can't believe it...I just bought my first issue of Glamour magazine!!!! Needless to say, I have been enlightened in many more ways than I ever anticipated, e.g., "what your man really wants" and "hot new summer fashions". And, by the way, the Roadster backdrop was absolutely gorgeous! (Really, really nice looking Roadster.) The hot young thing sitting on the hood scoop didn't look too bad either. I suppose she was a fair trade for a dented hood scoop. Greg SRL31100494 PS Now you'll know me when you see me. I'll be the guy in the hot new summer fashions while sporting a bumper sticker that says, "I know what you want". From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri Jun 13 14:04:04 2008 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:04:04 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Soft Top Metal Front Support Question Message-ID: <061320082004.20127.4852D2B40005485C00004E9F2206998499CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Pic or link to parts manual page? Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "steb" > I found a metal front support piece in my attic an am not sure if it is > for a low windshield or high windshield model. Is there a difference > between the two? If it's a low and someone needs one, let me know. > > Steve Harvey > Milwaukee > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From daveandlindab at comcast.net Fri Jun 13 16:17:35 2008 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:17:35 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Soft Top Metal Front Support Question In-Reply-To: <000a01c8cd53$eb4f94e0$4501a8c0@steb1> Message-ID: <000001c8cda3$496135d0$6800a8c0@delled48909442> Someone correct me if I'm wrong. 3 clamps high WS, 2 clamps Low. If they look like tool box latches, it's an early low, if they are a twist/rotary, like a homw window sash lock, they are 67.5 Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: steb [mailto:stebharvey at ameritech.net] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 8:48 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Soft Top Metal Front Support Question I found a metal front support piece in my attic an am not sure if it is for a low windshield or high windshield model. Is there a difference between the two? If it's a low and someone needs one, let me know. Steve Harvey Milwaukee From efrisbee at charter.net Fri Jun 13 21:47:15 2008 From: efrisbee at charter.net (Eric Frisbee) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:47:15 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Soft Top Metal Front Support Question In-Reply-To: <000001c8cda3$496135d0$6800a8c0@delled48909442> Message-ID: That is exactly correct. Don't forget that there are still some interesting latch creations born by necessity out there. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+efrisbee=charter.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+efrisbee=charter.net at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of dave Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 5:18 PM To: 'steb'; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Soft Top Metal Front Support Question Someone correct me if I'm wrong. 3 clamps high WS, 2 clamps Low. If they look like tool box latches, it's an early low, if they are a twist/rotary, like a homw window sash lock, they are 67.5 Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: steb [mailto:stebharvey at ameritech.net] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 8:48 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Soft Top Metal Front Support Question I found a metal front support piece in my attic an am not sure if it is for a low windshield or high windshield model. Is there a difference between the two? If it's a low and someone needs one, let me know. Steve Harvey Milwaukee No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1493 - Release Date: 6/9/2008 5:25 PM From aultgc at att.net Fri Jun 13 22:32:28 2008 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:32:28 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Soft Top Metal Front Support Question References: <000001c8cda3$496135d0$6800a8c0@delled48909442> Message-ID: <003f01c8cdd7$a76f2180$6402a8c0@gaxp1> Dave, You're right on. Or, as Fergus would say "Spot on!". Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave" To: "'steb'" ; Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Soft Top Metal Front Support Question > Someone correct me if I'm wrong. 3 clamps high WS, 2 clamps Low. If > they look like tool box latches, it's an early low, if they are a > twist/rotary, like a homw window sash lock, they are 67.5 > > Dave Brisco > > -----Original Message----- > From: steb [mailto:stebharvey at ameritech.net] > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 8:48 AM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Soft Top Metal Front Support Question > > I found a metal front support piece in my attic an am not sure if it is > for a low windshield or high windshield model. Is there a difference > between the two? If it's a low and someone needs one, let me know. > > Steve Harvey > Milwaukee > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From etroxel at gmail.com Fri Jun 13 23:58:18 2008 From: etroxel at gmail.com (Evan Troxel) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:58:18 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1966 rolling chassis needs a new home Message-ID: 1966 Datsun Roadster 1600 rolling chassis with body. Needs new home. This is a rolling chassis that can be hauled on a flatbed or towed via dolly. All of the suspension is intact. No other parts are available. It is covered in a light coat of surface rust, but as soon as it gets media blasted, it'll be good as a 42 year old car can be. The body is very straight and it has a few light rust areas that need patching. I had it media blasted but other priorities have gotten in the way of this project unfortunately. Email me with any questions you might have. Make me an offer and tow this guy away! I am located in Rancho Cucamonga, Southern California. You can see pictures here: http://tinyurl.com/6r7vpk Thanks, Evan From conner_a at comcast.net Sat Jun 14 07:34:23 2008 From: conner_a at comcast.net (Andrew Conner) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:34:23 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Got time? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: There is a guy who is active on the ClassicZCars forum who restores Z-car clocks and also does quartz movement upgrades. I believe he has also done roadster clocks. http://zclocks.com/ Andy Conner -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+conner_a=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+conner_a=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Brad and Gayle Holmes Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 12:16 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Got time? Dear listers I'm working on the dash/instruments of my wife's 70 - 2000 automatic and found a gear in the clock has decided to detach itself and do the shake rattle and roll inside the housing. There was a thread a while back about instrument repair and I can't locate any info on it and yes, I've looked on 311. Anyone know of a shop or person who can repair the roadster clock or does anyone/vendor have a good running and as accurate as they get clock they want to sell? Thanks Brad Holmes SEROC Montgomery, AL Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From fergus06 at socal.rr.com Sat Jun 14 08:48:57 2008 From: fergus06 at socal.rr.com (Fergus OFarrell) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:48:57 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] a lesson / contrast in suspension balance, L-6 roadster vs V-8 Zcar Message-ID: <001601c8ce2d$c727e5b0$e5bb1e18@fergus031a2176> Have a look at the two engine bay shots of these two cars, and notice how much of the engine is sitting FORWARD of the shock tower / suspension pivot: V-8 Z-car: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/711171981.html L-6 roadster: (can you say "nose heavy"? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DATSUN-ROADSTER_W0QQitemZ130230850527QQihZ003Q QcategoryZ6188QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem even in a straight line, I can only imagine the pitch-up / unweighting of the back end of that roadster when the brakes are slammed on. The lack of traction might be good (or bad) for drifting, I suppose. (with a tire sponsor!) From 9laser3 at bright.net Sat Jun 14 09:53:03 2008 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:53:03 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] a lesson / contrast in suspension balance, L-6 roadster vs V-8 Zcar In-Reply-To: <001601c8ce2d$c727e5b0$e5bb1e18@fergus031a2176> References: <001601c8ce2d$c727e5b0$e5bb1e18@fergus031a2176> Message-ID: <002101c8ce36$bc654b50$352fe1f0$@net> Nose heavy yes, but I like the front air dam. Could do without the second tier hood scoop and I miss the reflectors in back. You have to wonder if the Z has all the frame mods and reinforcements necessary to keep those 300+ horse power in line? Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Fergus OFarrell Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 10:49 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] a lesson / contrast in suspension balance, L-6 roadster vs V-8 Zcar Have a look at the two engine bay shots of these two cars, and notice how much of the engine is sitting FORWARD of the shock tower / suspension pivot: V-8 Z-car: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/711171981.html L-6 roadster: (can you say "nose heavy"? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DATSUN-ROADSTER_W0QQitemZ130230850527QQihZ003 Q QcategoryZ6188QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem even in a straight line, I can only imagine the pitch-up / unweighting of the back end of that roadster when the brakes are slammed on. The lack of traction might be good (or bad) for drifting, I suppose. (with a tire sponsor!) You are subscribed as 9laser3 at bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From jover4x4 at aol.com Sat Jun 14 18:15:04 2008 From: jover4x4 at aol.com (jover4x4 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:15:04 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] vehicle transport - Phx to Den Message-ID: <8CA9C93FE650DC6-92C-963@webmail-ne12.sysops.aol.com> List, I have just purchased a non operable?Roadster in Phoenix and need it transported to Denver.? Do any of you know of a reputable carrier that would haul a non running car from Phoenix (Mesa) to Denver??? Or is anyone coming this way and need a side job? Please contact me off the list if you have a reference or know someone for hire. Thanks in advance. John Over Denver, CO jover4x4(at)aol(dot)com 68 2000 67 2000 71 240z From alvingogi at hotmail.com Sat Jun 14 20:44:33 2008 From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 02:44:33 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] a lesson / contrast in suspension balance, L-6 roadster vs V-8 Zcar In-Reply-To: <002101c8ce36$bc654b50$352fe1f0$@net> References: <001601c8ce2d$c727e5b0$e5bb1e18@fergus031a2176> <002101c8ce36$bc654b50$352fe1f0$@net> Message-ID: Mark Sedlack has an example of a good v8 installation for his Z, mounting it as close to the firewall as possible: http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/Z.htm The 240z doesn't need major frame/suspension modifications to handle 300hp, just brakes! Here is a 440rwhp Z with an RB25DET engine swap, accelerating: http://youtube.com/watch?v=PmcsuTk6lV4 Tim Arnett has an L24-powered roadster, a throwback to the one that was raced way back. He' succesfully raced it on road courses! Pictures in this thread: http://www.311s.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=54337#54337Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 > From: 9laser3 at bright.net> To: fergus06 at socal.rr.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:53:03 -0400> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] a lesson / contrast in suspension balance, L-6 roadster vs V-8 Zcar> > Nose heavy yes, but I like the front air dam. Could do without the second> tier hood scoop and I miss the reflectors in back.> You have to wonder if the Z has all the frame mods and reinforcements> necessary to keep those 300+ horse power in line?> > Paul> Ohio> > -----Original Message-----> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net] On> Behalf Of Fergus OFarrell> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 10:49 AM> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] a lesson / contrast in suspension balance, L-6 roadster> vs V-8 Zcar> > Have a look at the two engine bay shots of these two cars, and notice how> much> of the engine is sitting FORWARD of the shock tower / suspension pivot:> > V-8 Z-car:> http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/711171981.html> > L-6 roadster: (can you say "nose heavy"?> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DATSUN-ROADSTER_W0QQitemZ130230850527QQihZ003> Q> QcategoryZ6188QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem> > even in a straight line, I can only imagine the pitch-up / unweighting of> the> back end of that roadster when the brakes are slammed on. The lack of> traction might be good (or bad) for drifting, I suppose. (with a tire> sponsor!)> You are subscribed as 9laser3 at bright.net> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as alvingogi at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Instantly invite friends from Facebook and other social networks to join you on Windows Live Messenger. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_InviteFriends From phylam at sbcglobal.net Sat Jun 14 21:11:11 2008 From: phylam at sbcglobal.net (DAVID ALMAZAN) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:11:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Mt. Shasta Meet Message-ID: <442828.96495.qm@web83407.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> The 24th Mt. Shasta Roadster Meet is 4 weeks away. Registration deadline is July 1st. Hope to see you there! Mt. Shasta Planning Committee From fergus06 at socal.rr.com Sun Jun 15 08:31:25 2008 From: fergus06 at socal.rr.com (Fergus OFarrell) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 07:31:25 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fathers Day Drive, unusual sights Message-ID: <008701c8cef4$7e03f5f0$e5bb1e18@fergus031a2176> Warning: another "out in left field post". So, with a few hours off and my rollbar newly mounted, I took a drive along the coast, ending up at a biker hangout. ( http://www.bikerstuff.com/cookscorner.htm ) A lesson in vehicular contrasts, seeing a '58 Fiat Jolly: (like this one, had the wicker, no fringy top) http://www.microcarmuseum.com/tour/fiat500jolly.html and, at the biker joint, two V-8 bikes, one of them 502ci powered, and hearing them take off, which was a "slow roll start-up, then gas it once you are pointed straight" approach. here's some pics of this version: http://hubpages.com/hub/_Nothing_Exceeds_Like_Excess_Boss_Hoss From drlsmith at dccnet.com Sun Jun 15 23:25:06 2008 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:25:06 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info Message-ID: <000801c8cf71$5729f240$6500a8c0@Daryl> In case someone else might be interested: http://www.aa1car.com/library/2004/us30428.htm From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Mon Jun 16 10:30:13 2008 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:30:13 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] FS on Sacto CL, "65" for $1k Message-ID: Saw this today, looks hi-windshield to me, but smaller fender flares. No idea where "msvl" location is. Can't ID the tailites either, but looks like side marker was swapped as well. http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/720948622.html From tputland at charter.net Mon Jun 16 16:05:54 2008 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:05:54 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] FS on Sacto CL, "65" for $1k In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080616180554.HDZAA.416848.root@fepweb08> Might be Marysville, about 30 minutes north of Sacramento. I have seen tail lights like that once before on a car htat I believe was in Australia...but I might be mistaken (again). -- Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- "O'Farrell wrote: ============= Saw this today, looks hi-windshield to me, but smaller fender flares. No idea where "msvl" location is. Can't ID the tailites either, but looks like side marker was swapped as well. http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/720948622.html You are subscribed as tputland at charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From fj20spl311 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 16 17:07:58 2008 From: fj20spl311 at yahoo.com (philip erickson) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:07:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 2, Issue 255 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <739537.72303.qm@web31901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Saw this today, looks hi-windshield to me, but smaller fender flares. No idea where "msvl" location is. Can't ID the tailites either, but looks like side marker was swapped as well. http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/720948622.html MSVL = Marysville, Calif. From sumton at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 16 18:26:20 2008 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:26:20 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 2, Issue 255 References: <739537.72303.qm@web31901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005101c8d014$623c2010$7d15a8c0@garage.local> 530 is sacramento ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "philip erickson" To: Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 2, Issue 255 > Saw this today, looks hi-windshield to me, but smaller fender flares. > No idea where "msvl" location is. > Can't ID the tailites either, but looks like side marker was swapped as > well. > http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/720948622.html > > MSVL = Marysville, Calif. From Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Mon Jun 16 20:16:38 2008 From: Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com (Pat) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:16:38 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT air suspension suggestions Message-ID: <48571E86.4060603@HorneSystemsTx.com> I know this is off topic, it is NOT something I would consider doing to a Roadster. My wifes Parkinson's is getting to the point where she is unable to easily get in and out of a normal height car. (We have a Ford Taurus). She is quite able to get in and out of a Honda Element, which we are considering buying, but, with its height, it doesn't get the gas mileage that we would prefer. I was thinking about getting a lower riding car and adding air assist to all 4 wheels so that it would rise 6" or 8" for her to get in and out, then drop back to the normal ride height for driving. Has anyone done such a modification, have any suggestions as to suppliers, know of any problems, etc? Once we work this out I will look for a suitable vehicle that will accommodate a scooter, which the Element will hold easily. Why don't we take this off list for now, unless folks want it on list. Besides, I can forward any replies to those who want to be included. Thanks, Pat -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From escanlon at wa-net.com Mon Jun 16 20:28:15 2008 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:28:15 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT air suspension suggestions References: <48571E86.4060603@HorneSystemsTx.com> Message-ID: <000601c8d021$cc4aa000$0300a8c0@HPW> The folks that modify some of the early 60's Chevy Impalas and the like with hydraulic systems to make them pop up and down and even jump would find this mod to be extremely easy. I know they have to add hydraulic systems, but more than that, I couldn't say. Check out Lowrider magazine for names and see where that takes you. FWIW E >I know this is off topic, it is NOT something I would consider doing to > a Roadster. My wifes Parkinson's is getting to the point where she is > unable to easily get in and out of a normal height car. (We have a Ford > Taurus). She is quite able to get in and out of a Honda Element, which > we are considering buying, but, with its height, it doesn't get the gas > mileage that we would prefer. I was thinking about getting a lower > riding car and adding air assist to all 4 wheels so that it would rise > 6" or 8" for her to get in and out, then drop back to the normal ride > height for driving. > > > Has anyone done such a modification, have any suggestions as to > suppliers, know of any problems, etc? > > Once we work this out I will look for a suitable vehicle that will > accommodate a scooter, which the Element will hold easily. > > Why don't we take this off list for now, unless folks want it on list. > Besides, I can forward any replies to those who want to be included. > > Thanks, > Pat From sandhoff at csus.edu Mon Jun 16 22:07:17 2008 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] [new subjline] Sacto area Craigslist Roadster In-Reply-To: <005101c8d014$623c2010$7d15a8c0@garage.local> References: <739537.72303.qm@web31901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <005101c8d014$623c2010$7d15a8c0@garage.local> Message-ID: > 530 is sacramento ca Actually, Sacramento is 916. 530 is north of Sacramento, and extends all the way to the Oregon border... I'm also guessing Marysville. But that's just a guess... -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From matthews517 at earthlink.net Tue Jun 17 04:06:11 2008 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 06:06:11 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Advice request Message-ID: Hi All, I'm hours away from tearing into my engine. I'll be having the head done (valve seats, likely a couple of valves replaced, guides, etc), replacing timing chains, water pump, oil pump, fuel pump, and all hoses. The only thing I'm worried about is the timing chain and head replacement. If anyone has any hints about the task I'm about to undertake, I'd really appreciate it. Things like, how do I make damn sure I get the cam in the right position when I put the head back on. I do own the "Datsun Roadster Books" so I'm sure I can figure out the right way to do the job. I just figure that someone has hints about how NOT to do things. It's always good to know where the land mines are before walking into the field! Thanks! Matt And Loreli (she's a 1970 Solex 2000) From bubwin at mts.net Tue Jun 17 08:26:09 2008 From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:26:09 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Advice request In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <90248179251443FE9B99699ED28147A8@ownerPC> Pre-read the engine assembly section a couple times first. When you are ready to re-assemble, have the manual with you, and go slow! Double check everything before you put on the timing chain cover. Good luck Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:06 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Advice request > Hi All, > > I'm hours away from tearing into my engine. I'll be having the head done > (valve seats, likely a couple of valves replaced, guides, etc), replacing > timing chains, water pump, oil pump, fuel pump, and all hoses. The only > thing I'm worried about is the timing chain and head replacement. If > anyone > has any hints about the task I'm about to undertake, I'd really appreciate > it. Things like, how do I make damn sure I get the cam in the right > position > when I put the head back on. I do own the "Datsun Roadster Books" so I'm > sure I can figure out the right way to do the job. I just figure that > someone has hints about how NOT to do things. It's always good to know > where > the land mines are before walking into the field! > > > > Thanks! > > Matt > > And Loreli (she's a 1970 Solex 2000) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin at mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From turbored at gmail.com Tue Jun 17 09:45:22 2008 From: turbored at gmail.com (turbored) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:45:22 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] [new subjline] Sacto area Craigslist Roadster In-Reply-To: References: <739537.72303.qm@web31901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <005101c8d014$623c2010$7d15a8c0@garage.local> Message-ID: Actually 530 starts south of Sac'to, Davis is 530, but excludes sac. drew On Jun 16, 2008, at 9:07 PM, John F Sandhoff wrote: >> 530 is sacramento ca > > Actually, Sacramento is 916. 530 is north of Sacramento, and > extends all the way to the Oregon border... > > I'm also guessing Marysville. But that's just a guess... > > -- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as turbored at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ljordan704 at netscape.net Tue Jun 17 11:06:46 2008 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:06:46 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info In-Reply-To: <000801c8cf71$5729f240$6500a8c0@Daryl> References: <000801c8cf71$5729f240$6500a8c0@Daryl> Message-ID: <8CA9EB3A81BACB8-10D4-DC7@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> So any thoughts about what this means for the Roadster? Linda 68 1600 -----Original Message----- From: Daryl Smith To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:25 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info In case someone else might be interested: http://www.aa1car.com/library/2004/us30428.htm You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From RWM at RWMann.com Tue Jun 17 11:21:33 2008 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:21:33 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info In-Reply-To: <8CA9EB3A81BACB8-10D4-DC7@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> References: <000801c8cf71$5729f240$6500a8c0@Daryl> <8CA9EB3A81BACB8-10D4-DC7@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4857F29D.6000807@RWMann.com> BP6ES ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: > So any thoughts about what this means for the Roadster? > >Linda >68 1600 > > > -----Original Message----- >From: Daryl Smith >To: Datsun Roadster List >Sent: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:25 pm >Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info > > >In case someone else might be interested: > >http://www.aa1car.com/library/2004/us30428.htm From nicole at irmforestry.com Tue Jun 17 11:23:04 2008 From: nicole at irmforestry.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nicole Younger=20?=) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:23:04 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Automated Reply from Nicole Younger ?= Message-ID: <200806171723.m5HHN4eP001427@blue88.secure-access.net> I will be out of the office, in the field starting Monday June 16 and will be returning Thursday July 3rd. If you are in need of assistance please contact my office manager, Kathy, at 541-929-3408. From davesmbox at aol.com Tue Jun 17 11:49:05 2008 From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:49:05 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info In-Reply-To: <4857F29D.6000807@RWMann.com> References: <000801c8cf71$5729f240$6500a8c0@Daryl> <8CA9EB3A81BACB8-10D4-DC7@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> <4857F29D.6000807@RWMann.com> Message-ID: <8CA9EB9920B3D97-14D8-207A@FWM-M30.sysops.aol.com> So what is the differance between BP6ES and BPR6ES and B6ES. I have two boxes of the B6ES that I got from autozone and one box of BPR6ES that I won at the roadster cookout raffle at the glen ( may have been snuck in by the evil dark forces of the MG group) Dave -----Original Message----- From: RWM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 1:21 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info BP6ES ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: > So any thoughts about what this means for the Roadster? > >Linda >68 1600 > > > -----Original Message----- >From: Daryl Smith >To: Datsun Roadster List >Sent: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:25 pm >Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info > > >In case someone else might be interested: > >http://www.aa1car.com/library/2004/us30428.htm You are subscribed as davesmbox at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From RWM at RWMann.com Tue Jun 17 12:00:22 2008 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:00:22 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info In-Reply-To: <8CA9EB9920B3D97-14D8-207A@FWM-M30.sysops.aol.com> References: <000801c8cf71$5729f240$6500a8c0@Daryl> <8CA9EB3A81BACB8-10D4-DC7@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> <4857F29D.6000807@RWMann.com> <8CA9EB9920B3D97-14D8-207A@FWM-M30.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4857FBB6.1080707@RWMann.com> B6ES is the basic format, while - "P" denotes "projected tip" - "R" denotes "with resistor for RFI suppression" davesmbox at aol.com wrote: >So what is the differance between BP6ES and BPR6ES and B6ES. I have two boxes of the B6ES that I got from autozone and one box of BPR6ES that I won at the roadster cookout raffle at the glen ( may have been snuck in by the evil dark forces of the MG group) >Dave > > >-----Original Message----- >From: RWM >To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Sent: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 1:21 pm >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info > > > >BP6ES > > > > >ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: > > > >>So any thoughts about what this means for the Roadster? >> >>Linda >>68 1600 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >>From: Daryl Smith >>To: Datsun Roadster List >>Sent: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:25 pm >>Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info >> >> >>In case someone else might be interested: >> >>http://www.aa1car.com/library/2004/us30428.htm From ljordan704 at netscape.net Tue Jun 17 12:26:47 2008 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:26:47 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info In-Reply-To: <4857F29D.6000807@RWMann.com> References: <000801c8cf71$5729f240$6500a8c0@Daryl> <8CA9EB3A81BACB8-10D4-DC7@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> <4857F29D.6000807@RWMann.com> Message-ID: <8CA9EBED5DD8053-10D4-1375@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> So despite a EI distributor, stronger coil, better plug wires the plugs are still NGK BP 6ES? No performance improvement with other plugs? Linda -----Original Message----- From: RWM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:21 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info BP6ES ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: > So any thoughts about what this means for the Roadster? > >Linda >68 1600 > > > -----Original Message----- >From: Daryl Smith >To: Datsun Roadster List >Sent: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:25 pm >Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info > > >In case someone else might be interested: > >http://www.aa1car.com/library/2004/us30428.htm You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From RWM at RWMann.com Tue Jun 17 12:38:48 2008 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:38:48 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info In-Reply-To: <8CA9EBED5DD8053-10D4-1375@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> References: <000801c8cf71$5729f240$6500a8c0@Daryl> <8CA9EB3A81BACB8-10D4-DC7@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> <4857F29D.6000807@RWMann.com> <8CA9EBED5DD8053-10D4-1375@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <485804B8.7080501@RWMann.com> Linda, To be blunt, I haven't tried any other plugs. "If it ain't broke...", I ain't spending time trying to fix it. Put another way, there are enough other problems elsewhere than the Roadster to fully occupy my time. - Bob P.S. I cannot more highly recommend the Gary Boone EI distributor (and a hotter coil to go with) and a gear reduction starter is a big plus, too. ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: > So despite a EI distributor, stronger coil, better plug wires the plugs are still NGK BP 6ES? >No performance improvement with other plugs? >Linda > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: RWM >To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Sent: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:21 am >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info > > > > > > > > > > >BP6ES > > >ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: > > > >>So any thoughts about what this means for the Roadster? >> >>Linda >>68 1600 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >>From: Daryl Smith >>To: Datsun Roadster List >>Sent: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:25 pm >>Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info >> >> >>In case someone else might be interested: >> >>http://www.aa1car.com/library/2004/us30428.htm From ljordan704 at netscape.net Tue Jun 17 12:52:58 2008 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:52:58 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info In-Reply-To: <485804B8.7080501@RWMann.com> References: <000801c8cf71$5729f240$6500a8c0@Daryl> <8CA9EB3A81BACB8-10D4-DC7@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> <4857F29D.6000807@RWMann.com> <8CA9EBED5DD8053-10D4-1375@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> <485804B8.7080501@RWMann.com> Message-ID: <8CA9EC27E0AC1ED-10D4-1584@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> Bob, Good point. But I was thinking, if you have the other performance upgrades ( I have all except starter) would a better plug make any difference? Or is there a better plug? Maybe the racers on the list have tried other plugs to see if there is an improvement. Linda 68 1600 -----Original Message----- From: RWM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:38 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info Linda, To be blunt, I haven't tried any other plugs. "If it ain't broke...", I ain't spending time trying to fix it. Put another way, there are enough other problems elsewhere than the Roadster to fully occupy my time. - Bob P.S. I cannot more highly recommend the Gary Boone EI distributor (and a hotter coil to go with) and a gear reduction starter is a big plus, too. ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: > So despite a EI distributor, stronger coil, better plug wires the plugs are still NGK BP 6ES? >No performance improvement with other plugs? >Linda > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: RWM >To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Sent: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:21 am >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info > > > > > > > > > > >BP6ES > > >ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: > > > >>So any thoughts about what this means for the Roadster? >> >>Linda >>68 1600 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >>From: Daryl Smith >>To: Datsun Roadster List >>Sent: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:25 pm >>Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info >> >> >>In case someone else might be interested: >> >>http://www.aa1car.com/library/2004/us30428.htm You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov Tue Jun 17 12:53:08 2008 From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:53:08 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info In-Reply-To: <485804B8.7080501@RWMann.com> References: <000801c8cf71$5729f240$6500a8c0@Daryl><8CA9EB3A81BACB8-10D4-DC7@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com><4857F29D.6000807@RWMann.com><8CA9EBED5DD8053-10D4-1375@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> <485804B8.7080501@RWMann.com> Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76B4A2AF@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> Back in the day when I was paid to work on Roadsters, we would get them in to the shop running very badly. The owners (like us) would do the basic tune-up to end up with a Roadster that would not idle and have miss. We would have them give us 5 minutes to "check it out", then call them back into the shop to a nicely running car. They would be stumped - how did we work the magic?? We just changed plugs to NGK BP6ES. We just charged them for the plugs and had happy campers. A lot of people would go to the parts house and buy all kinds of plugs that just would not work in a Roadster. Plugs - one of the simple things about a Roadster. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of RWM Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:39 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info Linda, To be blunt, I haven't tried any other plugs. "If it ain't broke...", I ain't spending time trying to fix it. Put another way, there are enough other problems elsewhere than the Roadster to fully occupy my time. - Bob P.S. I cannot more highly recommend the Gary Boone EI distributor (and a hotter coil to go with) and a gear reduction starter is a big plus, too. ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: > So despite a EI distributor, stronger coil, better plug wires the plugs are still NGK BP 6ES? >No performance improvement with other plugs? >Linda > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: RWM >To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Sent: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:21 am >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info > > > > > > > > > > >BP6ES > > >ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: > > > >>So any thoughts about what this means for the Roadster? >> >>Linda >>68 1600 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >>From: Daryl Smith >>To: Datsun Roadster List >>Sent: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:25 pm >>Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info >> >> >>In case someone else might be interested: >> >>http://www.aa1car.com/library/2004/us30428.htm ________________________________________ From RWM at RWMann.com Tue Jun 17 13:10:36 2008 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:10:36 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info In-Reply-To: <8CA9EC27E0AC1ED-10D4-1584@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> References: <000801c8cf71$5729f240$6500a8c0@Daryl> <8CA9EB3A81BACB8-10D4-DC7@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> <4857F29D.6000807@RWMann.com> <8CA9EBED5DD8053-10D4-1375@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> <485804B8.7080501@RWMann.com> <8CA9EC27E0AC1ED-10D4-1584@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <48580C2C.1090602@RWMann.com> Linda, No doubt if I had my name on the line, based on performance of "the package", I would try other plugs, jets, settings, you name it, and some that you might not think to name. I wish I had the time and money (at the same time) to be that crazy about a race Roadster. Though if I ever had, I doubt it would have stopped with a Roadster. - Bob ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: > Bob, > Good point. But I was thinking, if you have the other performance > upgrades ( I have all except starter) would a better plug make any > difference? Or is there a better plug? Maybe the racers on the list > have tried other plugs to see if there is an improvement. > > Linda > 68 1600 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: RWM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:38 am > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info > >Linda, > > > >To be blunt, I haven't tried any other plugs. "If it ain't broke...", I > >ain't spending time trying to fix it. > > > >Put another way, there are enough other problems elsewhere than the > >Roadster to fully occupy my time. > > > >- Bob > > > >P.S. I cannot more highly recommend the Gary Boone EI distributor (and > >a hotter coil to go with) and a gear reduction starter is a big plus, too. > > > > > > > >ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: > > > >> So despite a EI distributor, stronger coil, better plug wires the plugs are > >still NGK BP 6ES? > >>No performance improvement with other plugs? > >>Linda > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: RWM > > >>To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > >>Sent: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:21 am > >>Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>BP6ES > >> > >> > >>ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>So any thoughts about what this means for the Roadster? > >>> > >>>Linda > >>>68 1600 > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>>From: Daryl Smith > > >>>To: Datsun Roadster List > > >>>Sent: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:25 pm > >>>Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info > >>> > >>> > >>>In case someone else might be interested: > >>> > >>>http://www.aa1car.com/library/2004/us30428.htm From jsk977 at optonline.net Tue Jun 17 14:32:43 2008 From: jsk977 at optonline.net (Jerry Krakauer) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:32:43 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info References: <000801c8cf71$5729f240$6500a8c0@Daryl> <8CA9EB3A81BACB8-10D4-DC7@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> <4857F29D.6000807@RWMann.com> <8CA9EBED5DD8053-10D4-1375@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> <485804B8.7080501@RWMann.com> <8CA9EC27E0AC1ED-10D4-1584@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: FWIW, I never used NGKs, always Champions and never had problems. Usually N3(colder) or N5(hotter) or their extended tip counterparts N6Y or N9Y. For racing of course I used Champion's line of racing plugs, usually N58R or N60R. Those are the plugs with the electrodes hidden up inside the shell with the need of a special tool to gap them. Great for racing, ran cool and no electrode clearance problems for those with close valve and piston tolerances. However, very easy to foul at low rpm, many a racer's race effectively ended on the starting grid! The bests solution I found was a line of Champion platinum electrode racing plugs. Yes, platinum in the early 1970s, not 1985 as that article suggested. The plug I used was an N2G, looked sort of like a standard plug, but with rather thin platinum wire electrodes. Ran cool enough for racing and solved the fouling issues. BTW, N2G was what Sharp used on his roadsters, and I thing the Z car too. Jerry Krakauer SRL311-00099 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info > Bob, > Good point. But I was thinking, if you have the other performance upgrades > ( I have all except starter) would a better plug make any difference? Or > is there a better plug? Maybe the racers on the list have tried other > plugs to see if there is an improvement. > > Linda > 68 1600 From drlsmith at dccnet.com Tue Jun 17 16:34:21 2008 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:34:21 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info References: <000801c8cf71$5729f240$6500a8c0@Daryl> <8CA9EB3A81BACB8-10D4-DC7@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <003a01c8d0ca$4a6e4150$6500a8c0@Daryl> "So any thoughts about what this means for the Roadster (s)?" It is very hard to find good solid info on choosing a plug for a modified car. For most stock and mildly modified roadsters it seems the stock plug should be good enough. Open the gap to recommended width for GB/DB electronic ignition systems, or wider if you feel so inclined with an MSD, Jacobs, etc, system. For the most part it seems, from what I've read, the fancy plugs, like the wires, don't really "make" any more power than regular plugs, but they do last longer, as long as they don't foul out. Having a SYSTEM that provides a reliable spark is 90% of the job. If you have a stereo, GPS, or other electronic devices in your roadster, as pointed out already, you want the R (resistor) in the plug name for suppression of noise and interference on those items. I've been running the BPR6ES-11 (pregapped @ .043" ??) for several years with no problems, but with the EFI and waste spark I thought it was time to change. Seems the things to watch for when choosing a plug are thread size, reach, heat range and gap. Thread size and reach are pretty straightforward. Gap depends a lot on what size gap your ignition system is capable of providing a reliable spark to jump that gap. Good stock .032", GB/DB EI ~.043", MSD, Jacobs, etc .055" - .060" sometimes more. It used to be thought that a larger gap (with a capable system) would ignite more fuel giving a better, more thorough burn of the air fuel mixture. Some OEMs had as much as .080" gap. Lately it seems most OEMs are still at or back to about .043" - .055", sometimes as much as .060", gaps and high power inductive ignitions which give a longer duration spark........I can only guess why....??? Does it work better? Heat Range is the one that stumps me. Stock for a stock or mildly modified engine obviously. But what happens when you modify the cooling system, combustion chamber shape, increase compression, add a wasted spark ignition system, and efi???? Would a cooler or hotter plug be better?.....Stay the same?? I am guessing I could benefit from a hotter (??) and longer lasting plug. I am giving the Bosch +2 a shot. #4303. I believe it is equivalent to an NGK 5 heat range................ This is not a recommendation for any roadster. Just what I THINK might work for mine. Please correct me if you feel I've confused the issues............................... Cheers Daryl Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info In case someone else might be interested: http://www.aa1car.com/library/2004/us30428.htm From tminerpcav at aol.com Tue Jun 17 19:38:08 2008 From: tminerpcav at aol.com (tminerpcav at aol.com) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:38:08 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsater Racing Invitation In-Reply-To: <000f01c8cb68$9f576000$53f7d1d8@DDBHLZ81> References: <000f01c8cb68$9f576000$53f7d1d8@DDBHLZ81> Message-ID: <8CA9EFB187512C1-A58-14D8@webmail-ne15.sysops.aol.com> Anyone interested in vintage racing is invited out to Fontana to the California Speedway to cheer on Ron Carter and his beautiful racing Roadster #33. There will be racing on Saturday and Sunday. Ron says thing start as early as 8:30am on both days. Come on, come all! It should be fun. Tim Miner You are subscribed as tminerpcav at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a good movie? Check out our 2008 Summer Movie Guide. http://entertainment.aol.ca/summer-movies/?icid=AOLENT00310000000005 From aultgc at att.net Tue Jun 17 20:06:40 2008 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:06:40 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Advice request References: Message-ID: <001901c8d0e7$f2c4ddb0$6402a8c0@gaxp1> Matt, If this is a 2000 motor, don't forget the 6mm cap screw (10mm head) which secures the upper chain guide to the head. Particularly if the engine is in the car. Don't ask how I come to offer this advice... Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:06 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Advice request > Hi All, > > I'm hours away from tearing into my engine. I'll be having the head done > (valve seats, likely a couple of valves replaced, guides, etc), replacing > timing chains, water pump, oil pump, fuel pump, and all hoses. The only > thing I'm worried about is the timing chain and head replacement. If > anyone > has any hints about the task I'm about to undertake, I'd really appreciate > it. Things like, how do I make damn sure I get the cam in the right > position > when I put the head back on. I do own the "Datsun Roadster Books" so I'm > sure I can figure out the right way to do the job. I just figure that > someone has hints about how NOT to do things. It's always good to know > where > the land mines are before walking into the field! > > > > Thanks! > > Matt > > And Loreli (she's a 1970 Solex 2000) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From aultgc at att.net Tue Jun 17 20:11:29 2008 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:11:29 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info References: <000801c8cf71$5729f240$6500a8c0@Daryl><8CA9EB3A81BACB8-10D4-DC7@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com><4857F29D.6000807@RWMann.com><8CA9EBED5DD8053-10D4-1375@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com><485804B8.7080501@RWMann.com> <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76B4A2AF@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <004501c8d0e8$9f106120$6402a8c0@gaxp1> For years, before buying my roadster, I used nothing but Champion plugs, with great success. So, I tried a set of Champions in the roadster. Went back to NGKs pretty quickly. Can't explain it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info > Back in the day when I was paid to work on Roadsters, we would get them > in to the shop running very badly. The owners (like us) would do the > basic tune-up to end up with a Roadster that would not idle and have > miss. We would have them give us 5 minutes to "check it out", then call > them back into the shop to a nicely running car. They would be stumped > - how did we work the magic?? We just changed plugs to NGK BP6ES. We > just charged them for the plugs and had happy campers. A lot of people > would go to the parts house and buy all kinds of plugs that just would > not work in a Roadster. > > Plugs - one of the simple things about a Roadster. > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of RWM > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:39 PM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info > > Linda, > > To be blunt, I haven't tried any other plugs. "If it ain't broke...", I > ain't spending time trying to fix it. > > Put another way, there are enough other problems elsewhere than the > Roadster to fully occupy my time. > > - Bob > > P.S. I cannot more highly recommend the Gary Boone EI distributor (and > a hotter coil to go with) and a gear reduction starter is a big plus, > too. > > > > ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: > >> So despite a EI distributor, stronger coil, better plug wires the > plugs are still NGK BP 6ES? >>No performance improvement with other plugs? >>Linda >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: RWM >>To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>Sent: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:21 am >>Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>BP6ES >> >> >>ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: >> >> >> >>>So any thoughts about what this means for the Roadster? >>> >>>Linda >>>68 1600 >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>>From: Daryl Smith >>>To: Datsun Roadster List >>>Sent: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:25 pm >>>Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info >>> >>> >>>In case someone else might be interested: >>> >>>http://www.aa1car.com/library/2004/us30428.htm > ________________________________________ > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From rksmith46 at hotmail.com Tue Jun 17 20:20:55 2008 From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:20:55 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Advice request In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hi matt, here are a some of my recommendations on eng. rebuild: leave off the lower chain guide, they eventually break and lay in the bottom, rattling. i like to use lock tite to make sure things dont come loose: both tensioners, upper guide, cam gear bolts, oil pump mounting(2 nuts), jack shaft(intermediate shaft) bolt. do not put lock tite on head bolts, rod cap bolts, main brg. bolts, cam brg. cap nuts. mount the cam in the head without the lifters(followers) and be sure you can turn the cam by hand(both hands if necessary). if not, then you need to shim up the cam towers, or have the top of the head machined, (and you still have to shim up the cam towers, so the timing chain will be tight enough, and the cam timing will be right). be sure your machine shop guy grinds(resurfaces) the valve stems, if he grinds the seats. grinding the valve seats allows the valves stems to stick up more. then, when you adjust the followers(adj. valves), you have very little thread left to adj. the valves. look at the valve stem, cam, cam follower and imagine if the valve stem was a little longer, what it will do to the adjuster threads. if ive confused you, call me. keep track of which way the rods go on the crank(if you separate the rods and pistons). well, i suppose i could go on and on. just make notes, or take pics of how things come apart, for reference. best of luck, bob smith, ohio 614 418 9911> From: matthews517 at earthlink.net> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 06:06:11 -0400> Subject: [Roadsters] Advice request> > Hi All,> > I'm hours away from tearing into my engine. I'll be having the head done> (valve seats, likely a couple of valves replaced, guides, etc), replacing> timing chains, water pump, oil pump, fuel pump, and all hoses. The only> thing I'm worried about is the timing chain and head replacement. If anyone> has any hints about the task I'm about to undertake, I'd really appreciate> it. Things like, how do I make damn sure I get the cam in the right position> when I put the head back on. I do own the "Datsun Roadster Books" so I'm> sure I can figure out the right way to do the job. I just figure that> someone has hints about how NOT to do things. It's always good to know where> the land mines are before walking into the field!> > > > Thanks!> > Matt> > And Loreli (she's a 1970 Solex 2000) > ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as rksmith46 at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ The other season of giving begins 6/24/08. Check out the im Talkathon. http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=TXT_EML_WLH_SeasonOfGiving From daveandlindab at comcast.net Tue Jun 17 22:40:59 2008 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:40:59 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info In-Reply-To: <8CA9EB9920B3D97-14D8-207A@FWM-M30.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <006301c8d0fd$85be6590$6800a8c0@delled48909442> Dave, The B6ES is listed on NGK's site as correct for a 1600. The BP6ES is a projected tip, listed in many web sites as the right plug, and if it the same length a B6ES, it should work as well or better. BPR6ES is a resistor plug, same construction, should work same as the BPR6ES. Essentially, they all should work. Funny enough, an MG also takes a BP6ES, so the conspiracy theory may hold true. Look forward to meeting you at the Glen. Linda, the BP6ES-11 is the same plug, but factory gapped at.044. It will give you the wide gap for the EI distributor. Opening the gap on a standard plug works, but then the ground electrode is angled a bit. The 2000 is listed as a BPR5ES on the NGK site, funny, it's a hotter plug than a BP6ES, and usually a colder plug is used in a higher performance engine. Again, BP6ES is listed on many sites as correct for a 2000. What the article says that applies to us is that in all cases, the same plug series with a platinum or iridium plug may run cleaner and spark more consistently. BP6EP or BP6EIX. Add the -11 for wide gap. Another article on the site discusses plug wires, noting that the original style wires do wear out and deteriorate more quickly than spiral cores, something mentioned in previous posts. http://www.aa1car.com/library/spark_plug_wires.htm I'm using Bosch Platinum, but may switch to NGK when I finally put an EI in mine. I have pre-ignition/ run on problems, although the leaky carb shafts may be doing a lot of that. Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- So what is the differance between BP6ES and BPR6ES and B6ES. I have two boxes of the B6ES that I got from autozone and one box of BPR6ES that I won at the roadster cookout raffle at the glen ( may have been snuck in by the evil dark forces of the MG group) Dave -----Original Message----- From: RWM BP6ES ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: > So any thoughts about what this means for the Roadster? > >Linda >68 1600 From daveandlindab at comcast.net Tue Jun 17 23:23:01 2008 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:23:01 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Automated Reply from Nicole Younger In-Reply-To: <200806171723.m5HHN4eP001427@blue88.secure-access.net> Message-ID: <006501c8d103$617b0b60$6800a8c0@delled48909442> Nicole gets a lot of time out of the office. Must be a fun job. Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: Nicole Younger [mailto:nicole at irmforestry.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:23 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Automated Reply from Nicole Younger I will be out of the office, in the field starting Monday June 16 and will be returning Thursday July 3rd. If you are in need of assistance please contact my office manager, Kathy, at 541-929-3408. From efrisbee at charter.net Wed Jun 18 00:21:39 2008 From: efrisbee at charter.net (efrisbee at charter.net) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:21:39 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Automated Reply from Nicole Younger In-Reply-To: <006501c8d103$617b0b60$6800a8c0@delled48909442> Message-ID: <20080618022139.09K02.450975.root@fepweb08> Forestry... she's got it made! At least she gets away from her computer every now and again, unlike some computer nerds on here. :P On a roadster note... dusted off the '70 2000 today and drove in this fabulously wonderful weather we are having right now.. what a ride!!! Eric ---- dave wrote: > Nicole gets a lot of time out of the office. Must be a fun job. > > > Dave Brisco > > ECR > -----Original Message----- > From: Nicole Younger [mailto:nicole at irmforestry.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:23 PM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Automated Reply from Nicole > Younger > > I will be out of the office, in the field starting Monday June 16 and > will be returning Thursday July 3rd. > > If you are in need of assistance please contact my office manager, > Kathy, at 541-929-3408. From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Wed Jun 18 08:09:46 2008 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:09:46 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info, Key Phrase Message-ID: << No performance improvement with other plugs? >> Yeah Linda, that write-up was very informative, but I found the key phrase in all that to be: << One thing to keep in mind with respect to performance claims is that no spark plug creates horsepower out of thin air. A special electrode configuration can reduce misfiring and the voltage needed to fire the plugs. But the spark only ignites what is already in the combustion chamber. If there are any power gains to be had, they will be the result of reduced misfires and nothing else. >> We get the most gains from GB's EI dizzy and the hotter spark (larger gap) that can be run, and the fact that the hotter spark keeps plugs from getting fouled. Gains come from changing the flame front within the cylinder, flows in/out of the chambers, fuel atomization, etc. (etc meaning: and a whole long list of things that I know diddly about) A friend of mine designed a plug holder to put modern Ford F-150 plugs (tiny, but HOT spark) into hi-perf Harley motors, which included a compression release so that the stock battery (small) could start the larger displacement motors. He had large HP gains, but admitted it was probably because the bike was running so rich prior to the swap, that all he was doing was burning all the fuel that had always been there. Fergus O, 69 2000, HB, CA From ljordan704 at netscape.net Wed Jun 18 12:08:11 2008 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:08:11 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info, Key Phrase In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CA9F8565E4BA35-8F4-13E1@webmail-nc13.sysops.aol.com> So if Roadsters often tend to run rich (at idle or otherwise due to mistuned carbs, needle profiles, etc) then the hotter plugs would be helpful to burn more of the fuel, keep the plugs from fouling and in the process, possibly a bit more power as a result? Sounds good to me. Linda -----Original Message----- From: O'Farrell, Fergus To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 7:09 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info, Key Phrase << No performance improvement with other plugs? >> Yeah Linda, that write-up was very informative, but I found the key phrase in all that to be: << One thing to keep in mind with respect to performance claims is that no spark plug creates horsepower out of thin air. A special electrode configuration can reduce misfiring and the voltage needed to fire the plugs. But the spark only ignites what is already in the combustion chamber. If there are any power gains to be had, they will be the result of reduced misfires and nothing else. >> We get the most gains from GB's EI dizzy and the hotter spark (larger gap) that can be run, and the fact that the hotter spark keeps plugs from getting fouled. Gains come from changing the flame front within the cylinder, flows in/out of the chambers, fuel atomization, etc. (etc meaning: and a whole long list of things that I know diddly about) A friend of mine designed a plug holder to put modern Ford F-150 plugs (tiny, but HOT spark) into hi-perf Harley motors, which included a compression release so that the stock battery (small) could start the larger displacement motors. He had large HP gains, but admitted it was probably because the bike was running so rich prior to the swap, that all he was doing was burning all the fuel that had always been there. Fergus O, 69 2000, HB, CA You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Jun 18 13:05:14 2008 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:05:14 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info Message-ID: <061820081905.25987.48595C6A00011D9A000065832200735834CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> > Linda, the BP6ES-11 is the same plug, but factory gapped at.044. It > will give you the wide gap for the EI distributor. Opening the gap on a > standard plug works, but then the ground electrode is angled a bit. Ahhhh, first time I've heard that. Good to know. > I'm using Bosch Platinum, but may switch to NGK when I finally put an EI > in mine. WHAT????!!!! Not eating your own dogfood??? Pete From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Jun 18 13:27:54 2008 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:27:54 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] 13X7 Libres Message-ID: <061820081927.21610.485961BA0006E7D30000546A2206999735CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Here's the link... -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Bruce Palmer" > Craigslist Eugene Oregon $250. Just passing it along..... From: "Bruce Palmer" To: "510 List" Subject: 13X7 Libres Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:03:59 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from Multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/html Craigslist Eugene Oregon $250. Just passing it along..... From sandhoff at csus.edu Wed Jun 18 14:11:13 2008 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:11:13 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info, Key Phrase In-Reply-To: <8CA9F8565E4BA35-8F4-13E1@webmail-nc13.sysops.aol.com> References: Message-ID: <48590971.15487.1061FD2@localhost> > So if Roadsters often tend to run rich (at idle or otherwise due to > mistuned carbs, needle profiles, etc) then the hotter plugs would be > helpful to burn more of the fuel, keep the plugs from fouling and in the > process, possibly a bit more power as a result? Sounds good to me. Roadsters can also tend to run lean due to worn throttle shafts etc. Lean engines run hotter, thus potentially overheating a 'too hot' plug which can lead to pre-ignition and/or melted plug tips. It's a trade off. Always a trade off. I run BP6ES. I'm happy. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From drlsmith at dccnet.com Wed Jun 18 16:06:49 2008 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:06:49 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info, Key Phrase References: <8CA9F8565E4BA35-8F4-13E1@webmail-nc13.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <001401c8d18f$9c53df50$6500a8c0@Daryl> > So if Roadsters often tend to run rich (at idle or otherwise due to > mistuned carbs, needle profiles, etc) then the hotter plugs would be > helpful to burn more of the fuel, keep the plugs from fouling and in the > process, possibly a bit more power as a result? Sounds good to me. > > Linda If it is an otherwise good engine you are probably better running the correct heat range plug with an upgraded ignition system. With the SU's you may be rich at idle, and lean at higher rpm, and a hotter plug in an already lean condition could cause detonation. The only reason I've heard for using a hotter plug on a stock engine was when it was worn and starting to burn oil. The hotter plug would burn off the oil better and not foul as easily. Daryl > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: O'Farrell, Fergus > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 7:09 am > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info, Key Phrase > > > > > > > > > > > << No performance improvement with other plugs? >> > > Yeah Linda, that write-up was very informative, but I found the key > phrase in all that to be: > > << One thing to keep in mind with respect to performance claims is that > no spark plug creates horsepower out of thin air. A special electrode > configuration can reduce misfiring and the voltage needed to fire the > plugs. But the spark only ignites what is already in the combustion > chamber. If there are any power gains to be had, they will be the result > of reduced misfires and nothing else. >> > We get the most gains from GB's EI dizzy and the hotter spark (larger > gap) that can be run, and the fact that the hotter spark keeps plugs > from getting fouled. Gains come from changing the flame front within > the cylinder, flows in/out of the chambers, fuel atomization, etc. (etc > meaning: and a whole long list of things that I know diddly about) > A friend of mine designed a plug holder to put modern Ford F-150 plugs > (tiny, but HOT spark) into hi-perf Harley motors, which included a > compression release so that the stock battery (small) could start the > larger displacement motors. > He had large HP gains, but admitted it was probably because the bike was > running so rich prior to the swap, that all he was doing was burning all > the fuel that had always been there. > > Fergus O, 69 2000, HB, CA From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Jun 18 16:35:43 2008 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:35:43 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plugs - General Info, Key Phrase Message-ID: <061820082235.12861.48598DBE000F3DAF0000323D2200737478CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Yeah, common when prepping a car for sale. Pete "shift's over....I'm outta here!" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Daryl Smith" [snip] > The only reason I've heard for using a hotter plug on a stock engine was > when it was worn and starting to burn oil. The hotter plug would burn off > the oil better and not foul as easily. From drlsmith at dccnet.com Wed Jun 18 22:08:30 2008 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:08:30 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT - Oscilloscope advice? Message-ID: <001801c8d1c2$22cfe650$6500a8c0@Daryl> Sorry for the off topic post, but I thought someone here might be able to help steer me in the right direction on buying a new or used Oscilloscope. Will be used mostly on automotive electronics. Most likely looking for a 2 channel scope. Any brands/models to avoid? Any reccomendations? Advice? Thanks Daryl From James at jdfogg.com Thu Jun 19 05:47:47 2008 From: James at jdfogg.com (James Fogg) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:47:47 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] OT - Oscilloscope advice? Message-ID: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A921FB5@sbs.jdfogg.com> > Sorry for the off topic post, but I thought someone here might be able to > help > steer me in the right direction on buying a new or used Oscilloscope. > > Will be used mostly on automotive electronics. > Most likely looking for a 2 channel scope. > > Any brands/models to avoid? > Any reccomendations? > Advice? Automotive scopes are specific to the task and designed to troubleshoot the high tension side of an ignition system (plugs, caps, rotors, points and condenser). They don't really offer anything for electronics work. Most of them use calibrated induction probes, which are unheard of in the electronics world. Sears made a few homeowner grade auto scopes that should be affordable. An electronics scope isn't really designed for the voltages you'll encounter in an ignition system without a high voltage probe, which aren't very common. Scope probes are very expensive (considering how simple they seem), so an HV probe might set you back some big money. 1X and 10X probes are common and affordable in the used market. You could make an inductive probe and use an electronics oscilloscope to work on cars. It's just a coil of wire that is held close to the ignition wire. You won't know the actual voltage on the plug, but you'll be able to see patterns and its voltage relative to the other plugs. By far the most favored oscilloscope brand in the electronics world is Tektronix. Another good brand is HP/Agilent. You can pick up a nice used Tektronix 22XX series for probably $200 on eBay. The only scopes I'd avoid are the ones geared toward television service made by the big TV equipment makers like Seneca, Hickok, and B&K. There are also a lot of new manufacturers out there with Asian sounding names you've never heard of that you might want to avoid (except Hitachi and Iwatsu, which have been around a long time and are actually good scopes). An oscilloscope is a precision circuit and I like to work with known manufacturers. From chalsted at comcast.net Thu Jun 19 11:06:33 2008 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:06:33 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] oil coming out at base of spark plug U20 Message-ID: <001a01c8d22e$d364db30$8b277b4c@craigscomputer> so I finally got an engine I'd bought as low mileage rebuilt fired up in the car I'd dropped it into... sounds pretty decent, but there's oil welling out around the base of the spark plug for the #3 cylinder- nothing I've ever encountered before. any ideas? don't think it can be a good thing.... Craig From James at jdfogg.com Thu Jun 19 11:16:50 2008 From: James at jdfogg.com (James Fogg) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:16:50 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] oil coming out at base of spark plug U20 Message-ID: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A921FB8@sbs.jdfogg.com> > so I finally got an engine I'd bought as low mileage rebuilt fired up in > the > car I'd dropped it into... sounds pretty decent, but there's oil welling > out > around the base of the spark plug for the #3 cylinder- nothing I've ever > encountered before. any ideas? don't think it can be a good thing.... > > Craig You could start by seeing if the oil is coming from the cylinder. If you pull the plug is the electrode area wet with oil? I would expect a heavy skip if this were the case though. From andycost at embarqmail.com Thu Jun 19 12:10:53 2008 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (andycost at embarqmail.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:10:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] oil coming out at base of spark plug U20 In-Reply-To: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A921FB8@sbs.jdfogg.com> Message-ID: <395317778.1799381213899053536.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com> It is dripping down from the valve cover gasket. From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Thu Jun 19 12:28:39 2008 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:28:39 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] oil coming out at base of spark plug U20 In-Reply-To: <001a01c8d22e$d364db30$8b277b4c@craigscomputer> References: <001a01c8d22e$d364db30$8b277b4c@craigscomputer> Message-ID: Craig Wrong size plug Not tight Damaged Valve Broken plug washer Broken oil ring(s) Cracked block Blown head gasket Peter > From: chalsted at comcast.net> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:06:33 -0400> Subject: [Roadsters] oil coming out at base of spark plug U20> > so I finally got an engine I'd bought as low mileage rebuilt fired up in the> car I'd dropped it into... sounds pretty decent, but there's oil welling out> around the base of the spark plug for the #3 cylinder- nothing I've ever> encountered before. any ideas? don't think it can be a good thing....> > Craig> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From chalsted at comcast.net Thu Jun 19 13:30:11 2008 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:30:11 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] oil coming out at base of spark plug U20 References: <395317778.1799381213899053536.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com> Message-ID: <005d01c8d242$e400eec0$8b277b4c@craigscomputer> nope. not dripping down from the valve cover gasket. I wiped everything dry after I first saw oil coming down from that area and then fired it up again and looked with a light and my glasses on- it's welling out from around the base of the spark plug. have a feeling I won't be finding out the answer without pulling the head :-( have another low mileage rebuilt U20 sitting in the shop that I heard run within the last couple months before I pulled it (terminal chassis rust car) and I'm tempted to just swap it into the car and deal with whatever the problem is with this engine later on... quickest way to driving the car :-) Craig From turbored at gmail.com Thu Jun 19 13:31:08 2008 From: turbored at gmail.com (turbored) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:31:08 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] oil coming out at base of spark plug U20 In-Reply-To: References: <001a01c8d22e$d364db30$8b277b4c@craigscomputer> Message-ID: nice troubleshooting haiku. On Jun 19, 2008, at 11:28 AM, peter harrison wrote: > Craig > > Wrong size plug > Not tight > Damaged Valve > Broken plug washer > Broken oil ring(s) > Cracked block > Blown head gasket > > Peter > > > >> From: chalsted at comcast.net> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> >> Date: Thu, > 19 Jun 2008 13:06:33 -0400> Subject: [Roadsters] oil coming out at > base of > spark plug U20> > so I finally got an engine I'd bought as low > mileage rebuilt > fired up in the> car I'd dropped it into... sounds pretty decent, > but there's > oil welling out> around the base of the spark plug for the #3 > cylinder- > nothing I've ever> encountered before. any ideas? don't think it can > be a good > thing....> > Craig> ________________________________________> > Support Team.Net > http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as > granvillecomputing at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > > http://www.team.net/archive> > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as turbored at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From vze2fhba at verizon.net Thu Jun 19 14:08:53 2008 From: vze2fhba at verizon.net (vze2fhba at verizon.net) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:08:53 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Roadsters] oil coming out at base of spark plug U20 Message-ID: <10233928.2915741213906133699.JavaMail.root@vms076.mailsrvcs.net> Sounds like the head is cracked. Charlie B >From: chalsted >Date: 2008/06/19 Thu PM 02:30:11 CDT >To: andycost at embarqmail.com >Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil coming out at base of spark plug U20 >nope. not dripping down from the valve cover gasket. I wiped everything dry >after I first saw oil coming down from that area and then fired it up again >and looked with a light and my glasses on- it's welling out from around the >base of the spark plug. have a feeling I won't be finding out the answer >without pulling the head :-( have another low mileage rebuilt U20 sitting >in the shop that I heard run within the last couple months before I pulled >it (terminal chassis rust car) and I'm tempted to just swap it into the car >and deal with whatever the problem is with this engine later on... quickest >way to driving the car :-) > >Craig >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as vze2fhba at verizon.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From nqrithfordatsun at msn.com Thu Jun 19 15:55:01 2008 From: nqrithfordatsun at msn.com (Jim InVirginia) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:55:01 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] oil coming out at base of spark plug U20 In-Reply-To: <005d01c8d242$e400eec0$8b277b4c@craigscomputer> References: <395317778.1799381213899053536.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com> <005d01c8d242$e400eec0$8b277b4c@craigscomputer> Message-ID: Back by nr 3, is that an area of the head that contains any oil passages? Only thing I can think of is not good....a weird crack in the head that allows oil to pass from a gallery to the vicinity of the spark plug hole. My trouble shooting idea: Take an electric drill thru the distributor hole to the oil pump drive and remove nr 3 spark plug. Turn the oil pump with the spark plug removed and maybe you can get a better idea of where the oil is coming from. If its not too bad and is not near any stressed areas of the head, maybe some delicate aluminum welding can fix it. Just my rough idea of a method....happy to hear why this will or will not work. Best Regards, Jim in Chesapeake 67 stroker 5 spd "SAKE RKT" 65 1600 parts car 72 510 Sportwagon Project 96 Miata M edition daily driver (just passing 140K miles) > From: chalsted at comcast.net> To: andycost at embarqmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:30:11 -0400> CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil coming out at base of spark plug U20> > nope. not dripping down from the valve cover gasket. I wiped everything dry > after I first saw oil coming down from that area and then fired it up again > and looked with a light and my glasses on- it's welling out from around the > base of the spark plug. have a feeling I won't be finding out the answer > without pulling the head :-( have another low mileage rebuilt U20 sitting > in the shop that I heard run within the last couple months before I pulled > it (terminal chassis rust car) and I'm tempted to just swap it into the car > and deal with whatever the problem is with this engine later on... quickest > way to driving the car :-)> > Craig From andycost at embarqmail.com Thu Jun 19 15:56:30 2008 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (andycost at embarqmail.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:56:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] oil coming out at base of spark plug U20 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <234878563.1854461213912590870.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com> Have you checked to see if the spark plugs were made by British Leyland or Harley Davidson? From daveandlindab at comcast.net Fri Jun 20 18:52:50 2008 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:52:50 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] oil coming out at base of spark plug U20 In-Reply-To: <395317778.1799381213899053536.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com> Message-ID: <000d01c8d339$21fa5670$6800a8c0@delled48909442> Hopefully andy is right...Mine is a cracked valve cover leak in the front, pools by #3 plug. Took a while to track out, clean synthetic oil in the car, couldn't see the run. Try the poor man's Magnaflux. Spray it down with brakekleen to remove any oil. Dry with some air. Then get some old fashioned aerosol spray antiperspirant, foot powder, Desinex, anything that will leave a dry white powder coating. Fire it up, look for the crack, it will turn brown from the oil, or show the trail if it's runoff. Cleans off with soap and water, and as a bonus smells nice. -----Original Message----- From: andycost at embarqmail.com [mailto:andycost at embarqmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 2:11 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil coming out at base of spark plug U20 It is dripping down from the valve cover gasket. From ljordan704 at netscape.net Fri Jun 20 19:29:46 2008 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:29:46 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] oil coming out at base of spark plug U20 In-Reply-To: <8CAA15254F6592F-F44-1723@webmail-nb11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CAA1556C524BB8-F44-17E3@webmail-nb11.sysops.aol.com> Would a crack in the top of the valve cover be able to send oil up and down into the spark plug area? Also would the powder get into the rockers etc and cause a problem? Otherwise what you are saying does make sense. My valve cover has a tiny crack. I think someone said it can be fixed but won't look so nice. Oh well. Linda Los Angeles hot,hot,hot -----Original Message----- From: dave To: Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net Sent: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 5:52 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil coming out at base of spark plug U20 Hopefully andy is right...Mine is a cracked valve cover leak in the front, pools by #3 plug. Took a while to track out, clean synthetic oil in the car, couldn't see the run. Try the poor man's Magnaflux. Spray it down with brakekleen to remove any oil. Dry with some air. Then get some old fashioned aerosol spray antiperspirant, foot powder, Desinex, anything that will leave a dry white powder coating. Fire it up, look for the crack, it will turn brown from the oil, or show the trail if it's runoff. Cleans off with soap and water, and as a bonus smells nice. -----Original Message----- From: andycost at embarqmail.com [mailto:andycost at embarqmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 2:11 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil coming out at base of spark plug U20 It is dripping down from the valve cover gasket. You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news, & more! From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri Jun 20 20:32:46 2008 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:32:46 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Sorta OT: road trip anyone? Message-ID: <4147CC55C50A4BA497F8E68A08BA8B59@xp> Three young men decided to see all 48 contiguous states in one 107-hour road trip. Of course they videoed the entire trip! Here's the video: and here's their web site: From davesmbox at aol.com Fri Jun 20 21:04:05 2008 From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:04:05 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Sorta OT: road trip anyone? In-Reply-To: <4147CC55C50A4BA497F8E68A08BA8B59@xp> References: <4147CC55C50A4BA497F8E68A08BA8B59@xp> Message-ID: <8CAA162997ED952-12A8-1D16@FWM-M34.sysops.aol.com> Of coarse they were "TRUST FUND BABIES" to afford the gas Dave -----Original Message----- From: Pete Peters To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:32 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Sorta OT: road trip anyone? Three young men decided to see all 48 contiguous states in one 107-hour road trip. Of course they videoed the entire trip! Here's the video: and here's their web site: You are subscribed as davesmbox at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From mzitterich at yahoo.com Fri Jun 20 21:09:08 2008 From: mzitterich at yahoo.com (Mark Zitterich) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Newbie Message-ID: <931280.22566.qm@web55501.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Hello, I'm probably the newest Roadster owner. It arrived last night and I registered it today. This is my first roadster (1968 SRL-31102879). It's a bit of an omelette (someone dropped a R-1600 in it and it has 1969 front fenders), but I'm looking forward to it, My last Datsun was a 73 240Z that was great fun until an untimely crash with my roomate driving it. I have a couple of questions, since I have not acquired a service manual yet. 1. Does the gearbox (4sp) and differential take 75W-90? 2. Is there an aftermarket electronic ignition system available? Would it work for the R-1600 and a U-2000 if I decide to go back to a 2000cc engine? 3. The oil pressure and fuel guages work, but not the temp? Where is the temp sender located? I looked on both sides of the radiator, but couldn't find one or a hole for one. 4. What is the toggle switch on the left side of the steering wheel for? 5. Is there a Roadster club in Colorado? I'm just north of Colorado Springs. Thanks, Mark From jklingman at stny.rr.com Fri Jun 20 21:53:03 2008 From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:53:03 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] cracked valve cover References: <8CAA1556C524BB8-F44-17E3@webmail-nb11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <000501c8d352$4ea7d4e0$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71> Linda, We have a spare valve cover that was cracked, a friend welded and buffed the cover and it looks super, inside and out. Tricky work, but can be done. Gloria and John Klingman chilly upstate NY....51degrees at 11PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dave > > To: Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net > > Sent: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 5:52 pm > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil coming out at base of spark plug U20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hopefully andy is right...Mine is a cracked valve cover leak in the > > front, pools by #3 plug. Took a while to track out, clean synthetic oil > > in the car, couldn't see the run. > > > > Try the poor man's Magnaflux. Spray it down with brakekleen to remove > > any oil. Dry with some air. Then get some old fashioned aerosol spray > > antiperspirant, foot powder, Desinex, anything that will leave a dry > > white powder coating. Fire it up, look for the crack, it will turn > > brown from the oil, or show the trail if it's runoff. Cleans off with > > soap and water, and as a bonus smells nice. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: andycost at embarqmail.com [mailto:andycost at embarqmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 2:11 PM > > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil coming out at base of spark plug U20 > > > > It is dripping down from the valve cover gasket. > You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > > > > > > > > Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news, & more! > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jklingman at stny.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From bmccarthy67 at hotmail.com Sat Jun 21 00:38:12 2008 From: bmccarthy67 at hotmail.com (John McCarthy) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:38:12 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Newbie In-Reply-To: <931280.22566.qm@web55501.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <931280.22566.qm@web55501.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Welcome Mark...if you haven't already.. make sure you go to www.311s.org and register your car. That forum has LOTS of Roadster info. As for some of your first questions: 1. People run various oil and gear weights based on their driving habits and locations. 2. There is an Electronic Dizzy offered for the Roadster...it was made by Garry Boone, now it's made by I believe, Dave Brisco. The Dizzy works on 1600 & 2000, but he does change the Dizzy based on SU vs Solex carbs (vac advance). 3. Again, I'm not in front of my car, I believe temp sensor is on the head by the thermostat tower, on the 2000 it is below (connected with) the thermostat tower. 4. All of the Roadster clubs are linked on 311s.org Good luck and welcome aboard. v/r Buddy > Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:09:08 -0700> From: mzitterich at yahoo.com> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] Newbie> > Hello,> I'm probably the newest Roadster owner. It arrived last night and I> registered it today. This is my first roadster (1968 SRL-31102879). It's a> bit of an omelette (someone dropped a R-1600 in it and it has 1969 front> fenders), but I'm looking forward to it, My last Datsun was a 73 240Z that> was great fun until an untimely crash with my roomate driving it.> I have a> couple of questions, since I have not acquired a service manual yet.> 1. Does> the gearbox (4sp) and differential take 75W-90?> 2. Is there an aftermarket> electronic ignition system available? Would it work for the R-1600 and a> U-2000 if I decide to go back to a 2000cc engine?> 3. The oil pressure and> fuel guages work, but not the temp? Where is the temp sender located? I> looked on both sides of the radiator, but couldn't find one or a hole for one.> 4. What is the toggle switch on the left side of the steering wheel for?> 5. > Is there a Roadster club in Colorado? I'm just north of Colorado Springs.> Thanks,> Mark> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as bmccarthy67 at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Need to know now? Get instant answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_ Refresh_messenger_062008 From Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Sat Jun 21 06:30:07 2008 From: Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com (Pat) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 07:30:07 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Newbie In-Reply-To: <931280.22566.qm@web55501.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <931280.22566.qm@web55501.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <485CF44F.8080701@HorneSystemsTx.com> Welcome, Mark. John gave you most of the information. The temp sensor is located right at the radiator hose on the driver's side of the engine. It is tough to get out if the gland nut is over tightened. You may have to pull the thermostat housing and use a drift from the inside to get it out. Good luck and welcome aboard! Peace, Pat Austin Texas Thusly spake Mark Zitterich: > Hello, > I'm probably the newest Roadster owner. It arrived last night and I > registered it today. This is my first roadster (1968 SRL-31102879). It's a > bit of an omelette (someone dropped a R-1600 in it and it has 1969 front > fenders), but I'm looking forward to it, My last Datsun was a 73 240Z that > was great fun until an untimely crash with my roomate driving it. > I have a > couple of questions, since I have not acquired a service manual yet. > 1. Does > the gearbox (4sp) and differential take 75W-90? > 2. Is there an aftermarket > electronic ignition system available? Would it work for the R-1600 and a > U-2000 if I decide to go back to a 2000cc engine? > 3. The oil pressure and > fuel guages work, but not the temp? Where is the temp sender located? I > looked on both sides of the radiator, but couldn't find one or a hole for one. > 4. What is the toggle switch on the left side of the steering wheel for? > 5. > Is there a Roadster club in Colorado? I'm just north of Colorado Springs. > Thanks, > Mark > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1511 - Release Date: 6/20/2008 11:52 AM > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From slowboy at cox.net Sat Jun 21 10:33:34 2008 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:33:34 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Newbie References: <931280.22566.qm@web55501.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001e01c8d3bc$8cef6230$0201a8c0@m7170n> The 311s.org will lead you to a lot of links and information. Spend the weekend going through the 311s site and sign up for the bulletin board. Below are just some to get you started. Technical Wiki http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php Technical Manuals and Others http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.Manuals 311s Bulletin Board http://www.311s.org/phpBB2/index.php 311s Home http://www.311s.org/ 311s Vendor Links http://www.311s.org/vendors.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Zitterich" To: Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 8:09 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Newbie > Hello, > I'm probably the newest Roadster owner. It arrived last night and I > registered it today. This is my first roadster (1968 SRL-31102879). It's > a > bit of an omelette (someone dropped a R-1600 in it and it has 1969 front > fenders), but I'm looking forward to it, My last Datsun was a 73 240Z > that > was great fun until an untimely crash with my roomate driving it. > I have a > couple of questions, since I have not acquired a service manual yet. > 1. Does > the gearbox (4sp) and differential take 75W-90? > 2. Is there an aftermarket > electronic ignition system available? Would it work for the R-1600 and a > U-2000 if I decide to go back to a 2000cc engine? > 3. The oil pressure and > fuel guages work, but not the temp? Where is the temp sender located? I > looked on both sides of the radiator, but couldn't find one or a hole for > one. > 4. What is the toggle switch on the left side of the steering wheel for? > 5. > Is there a Roadster club in Colorado? I'm just north of Colorado Springs. > Thanks, > Mark From gregs672liter at netzero.net Sat Jun 21 11:31:04 2008 From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 17:31:04 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] temp sender Message-ID: <20080621.103104.18113.0@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> Hi Mark, and welcome. I have not owned a 1600 but on a 2000 a frequent reason why the temp sender does not work is that it uses a metal tab on the two themostat housing gaskets to create a ground so the temp sender works. If someone uses gasket sealer, makes a gasket without the tab, or if the tab corrodes over time the sender will not work. I make my own gaskets using gasket material and simply take some small gauge copper wire (cut from your typical wire strands) cut into less than half an inch lengths and poke it through the gasket in a spot where it will contact the housing when installed, bend it flat (so it looks like a tab) and squish it a bit with pliers, clean the aluminum contact areas and put the unit together without gasket sealer, or at least keep gasket sealer off that spot. Also, use anti-seize on the nuts when you assemble it, as they tend to corrode a lot and potentially break off the stud. It will make things a lot easier to work with later if needed. Welcome to the Roadster world! Greg Burrows 67 2000 ____________________________________________________________ Enter for Your Chance to WIN* The TotalBeauty.com Summer Spa Sweepstakes! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/JKFkuJkEP31ZrxtQOrIv0TcykkdCXi MOSscc0csVupMMTLRJbYMOT0/ From sandhoff at csus.edu Sat Jun 21 13:23:18 2008 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:23:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Newbie In-Reply-To: <931280.22566.qm@web55501.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <931280.22566.qm@web55501.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: A lot has been answered but I'll throw in a couple of comments... > 1. Does the gearbox (4sp) and differential take 75W-90? The "real" datsun manual doesn't specify, Chiltons says 140 for temps over 32. The scans of the owners manual on 311s.org may say. > 2. Is there an aftermarket electronic ignition system available? The "Gary Boone" distributor, now made by . Works on R-16 and U-20 and a darn good investment. > 3. The oil pressure and fuel guages work, but not the temp? Oil gauge is mechanical. Fuel and temp are electrical. As stated, the sender is on the left front side of the head, sticking out sideways, and directly under a smallish 90 degree metal pipe/fitting that hooks to the tube underneath the carbs. You do NOT suffer the same problem with grounding that the U20 people have. To test: unplug the wire from the sender and use a piece of wire to ground it to the frame/block. Turn on the key. If the gauge zooms to H the sender is bad. If the gauge doesn't move, either the wire between the gauge and the sender is bad, the gauge itself is bad, of the wire that supplies power to the gauge is bad (power for both the fuel and temp gauges comes from a gadget that provides pulsating voltage - a discussion for later). Getting the sender out can be problematic. You could really get yourself in a pickle if you force things, so be careful. You don't want to be pulling the head and taking it to a machine shop :-) > 4. What is the toggle switch on the left side of the steering wheel for? You mean the hi/low headlight beam switch? -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From drlsmith at dccnet.com Sat Jun 21 13:42:36 2008 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:42:36 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT - Oscilloscope advice? References: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A921FB5@sbs.jdfogg.com> Message-ID: <003601c8d3d6$f5f97e90$6500a8c0@Daryl> Thanks for all the tips, advice, and offers of equipment. Some very good info. Cheers Daryl From daveandlindab at comcast.net Sat Jun 21 23:58:26 2008 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 01:58:26 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] oil coming out at base of spark plug U20 In-Reply-To: <8CAA1556C524BB8-F44-17E3@webmail-nb11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <000101c8d42c$fd894360$6800a8c0@delled48909442> Powder/spray gets sprayed on the OUTSIDE of the engine with nothing disassembled and all caps on. The oil will go down by gravity and back from the engine fan. It also runs along seams and gasket joints. My crack is on the right side of the cover near the timing chain. Oil is dripping from around #4 plug. The electric fan makes quite a breeze, and the speedometer, on occasion, goes way to the right of center, so oil will tend to go back. The welder will usually put the ugly side of the weld on the inside, so minimal grinding would be needed on the outside. I've seen welded valve covers that were mirror polished, you could only see the weld from the inside, not even a hairline on the outside. Your results may vary, but used covers are cheap and available and cost less than welding. Would look nice polished with white paint between the fins. Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: ljordan704 at netscape.net [mailto:ljordan704 at netscape.net] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 9:30 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] oil coming out at base of spark plug U20 Would a crack in the top of the valve cover be able to send oil up and down into the spark plug area? Also would the powder get into the rockers etc and cause a problem? Otherwise what you are saying does make sense. My valve cover has a tiny crack. I think someone said it can be fixed but won't look so nice. Oh well. Linda Los Angeles hot,hot,hot -----Original Message----- From: dave To: Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net Sent: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 5:52 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil coming out at base of spark plug U20 Hopefully andy is right...Mine is a cracked valve cover leak in the front, pools by #3 plug. Took a while to track out, clean synthetic oil in the car, couldn't see the run. Try the poor man's Magnaflux. Spray it down with brakekleen to remove any oil. Dry with some air. Then get some old fashioned aerosol spray antiperspirant, foot powder, Desinex, anything that will leave a dry white powder coating. Fire it up, look for the crack, it will turn brown from the oil, or show the trail if it's runoff. Cleans off with soap and water, and as a bonus smells nice. -----Original Message----- From: andycost at embarqmail.com [mailto:andycost at embarqmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 2:11 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil coming out at base of spark plug U20 It is dripping down from the valve cover gasket. You are subscribed as ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news, & more! From efrisbee at charter.net Mon Jun 23 10:02:12 2008 From: efrisbee at charter.net (Eric Frisbee) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:02:12 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Newbie In-Reply-To: <931280.22566.qm@web55501.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: North Colorado Springs? You betcha there is a club! www.wycroc.org I've copied the current president and you should be hearing from him shortly! Welcome to the world of Datsun roadsters! Eric -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+efrisbee=charter.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+efrisbee=charter.net at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Mark Zitterich Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 10:09 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Newbie Hello, I'm probably the newest Roadster owner. It arrived last night and I registered it today. This is my first roadster (1968 SRL-31102879). It's a bit of an omelette (someone dropped a R-1600 in it and it has 1969 front fenders), but I'm looking forward to it, My last Datsun was a 73 240Z that was great fun until an untimely crash with my roomate driving it. I have a couple of questions, since I have not acquired a service manual yet. 1. Does the gearbox (4sp) and differential take 75W-90? 2. Is there an aftermarket electronic ignition system available? Would it work for the R-1600 and a U-2000 if I decide to go back to a 2000cc engine? 3. The oil pressure and fuel guages work, but not the temp? Where is the temp sender located? I looked on both sides of the radiator, but couldn't find one or a hole for one. 4. What is the toggle switch on the left side of the steering wheel for? 5. Is there a Roadster club in Colorado? I'm just north of Colorado Springs. Thanks, Mark No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1514 - Release Date: 6/23/2008 7:17 AM From 68roadster at charter.net Wed Jun 25 07:58:34 2008 From: 68roadster at charter.net (Dennis Louthan) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 06:58:34 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Shasta Message-ID: <48624F0A.9030700@charter.net> Anyone going to Shasta this year? Dennis 68 Stroker Minden, NV From michaelspreadbury at comcast.net Wed Jun 25 08:27:25 2008 From: michaelspreadbury at comcast.net (michaelspreadbury at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:27:25 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Shasta Message-ID: <062520081427.14513.486255CD0005EA2A000038B12213575333979D9A0D0B0E0A9D9F9C040A0E080C0703@comcast.net> We are going to bring a few of our SR powered roadsters down from Oregon for the show! Michael Spreadbury spriso motorsports -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Dennis Louthan <68roadster at charter.net> > Anyone going to Shasta this year? From tputland at charter.net Wed Jun 25 10:03:47 2008 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:03:47 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Pinging Message-ID: <20080625120347.HSKKA.166377.root@mp14> Pete Harrison? You around? I need your (home/mailing) address again please. Thanks Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning From jrdmf at aol.com Wed Jun 25 10:05:10 2008 From: jrdmf at aol.com (jrdmf at aol.com) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:05:10 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 2000 for sale Message-ID: <8CAA4F46114889F-A78-ABB@webmail-nc12.sysops.aol.com> Hey list.... I have a 67.5 2000 that I am?going to sell if anybody is interested? It is a project that I picked up about 4 years ago but have since decided to concentrate?all my energy on #00003.?The car for sale is?serial number 402 and?it still has the numbers matching block along with the un-cut non smog head. It has all of the important stuff like head rests, visors, gauges etc. (Sorry no?license trim but the mounting holes are clearly visible.) I can email pics and details so interested parties should probably contact me off list. Not trying to make any money on this deal but?would like?to get back what I have into it. (About $4000.00) The car is in Huntington Beach and can be viewed any time. Thanks, Jon Frampton Huntington Beach From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Jun 25 11:55:09 2008 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:55:09 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Shasta Message-ID: <062520081755.18427.4862867D00081DCB000047FB2206998499CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Hopefully the fires will be out by then! At least I thought I heard there were fires near there. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: michaelspreadbury at comcast.net > We are going to bring a few of our SR powered roadsters down from Oregon for the > show! > > Michael Spreadbury > spriso motorsports > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Dennis Louthan <68roadster at charter.net> > > Anyone going to Shasta this year? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From nicole at irmforestry.com Wed Jun 25 12:12:10 2008 From: nicole at irmforestry.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nicole Younger=20?=) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:12:10 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Automated Reply from Nicole Younger ?= Message-ID: <200806251812.m5PICABc023250@blue88.secure-access.net> I will be out of the office, in the field starting Monday June 16 and will be returning Thursday July 3rd. If you are in need of assistance please contact my office manager, Kathy, at 541-929-3408. From pjmill at sonic.net Wed Jun 25 13:02:11 2008 From: pjmill at sonic.net (pjmill at sonic.net) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:02:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Automated Reply from Nicole Younger ?= In-Reply-To: <200806251812.m5PICABc023250@blue88.secure-access.net> References: <200806251812.m5PICABc023250@blue88.secure-access.net> Message-ID: <7713.151.151.21.105.1214420531.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net> Well, Nicole is out of the office AGAIN! Shall we all call Kathy?!!!! ;-) > I will be out of the office, in the field starting Monday June 16 and will > be returning Thursday July 3rd. > > If you are in need of assistance please contact my office manager, Kathy, > at 541-929-3408. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pjmill at sonic.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Wed Jun 25 13:16:45 2008 From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:16:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Continuing saga of my Carbs Message-ID: <539052.68128.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Well, I broke down my carb (the rear one first) and found the jet tube is 1/8" longer than the one on the carb from my parts car. There is no way you can release the choke, and have the jet turned down 1 rotation, and not have the jet tube in contact with the slide/piston. In fact, it actually holds the pistom up a bit from the bottom of it's travel. No ka-thunk unless you dial the jet way down. I was disgusted, and since it was 8:30 pm EDT, I just called Z Therapy and arranged to have my parts car carbs rebuilt. It cost a ton, but I want to drive my car. This has been going on for 3 months. I'll tear the other down for craps and giggles, perhaps tonight. I will contact the outfit that rebuilt my original carbs to explain why the jet tubes are wrong, Apple Hydraulics, but I am not waiting any more for them. I am less than happy with them. First, they had the jet adjustment off so far that the needle couldn't go all the way down. Then, when we went to fix this, the nut was SUPER tight and this is stupid also. I thought I'd save a few bucks, and boy have I paid for it. Z therapy tells me 10 days, at least, is the best they can do. Oh well....... Jim Gammon From tputland at charter.net Wed Jun 25 14:14:58 2008 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:14:58 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] This is too much.... Message-ID: <20080625161458.YVVLW.171800.root@mp14> I am not sure if this will go through,,,but this mod is too much for even me! Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning I understand that this was built for baja racing, but this is just too much.... [cid:image002.jpg at 01C8D6CB.899026D0] ============= [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image002.jpg] From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 25 14:45:47 2008 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] This is too much.... In-Reply-To: <20080625161458.YVVLW.171800.root@mp14> Message-ID: <836866.98513.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Attachments are stripped - send us a link! Tim wrote: I am not sure if this will go through,,,but this mod is too much for even me! Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning I understand that this was built for baja racing, but this is just too much.... [cid:image002.jpg at 01C8D6CB.899026D0] ============= [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image002.jpg] You are subscribed as gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ljordan704 at netscape.net Wed Jun 25 15:32:47 2008 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:32:47 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Automated Reply from Nicole Younger In-Reply-To: <7713.151.151.21.105.1214420531.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net> References: <200806251812.m5PICABc023250@blue88.secure-access.net> <7713.151.151.21.105.1214420531.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net> Message-ID: <8CAA52225027C90-129C-AB3@webmail-ne17.sysops.aol.com> Kathy's probably out of the office too. Dang government job..................... Linda -----Original Message----- From: pjmill at sonic.net To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:02 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Automated Reply from Nicole Younger Well, Nicole is out of the office AGAIN! Shall we all call Kathy?!!!! ;-) > I will be out of the office, in the field starting Monday June 16 and will > be returning Thursday July 3rd. > > If you are in need of assistance please contact my office manager, Kathy, > at 541-929-3408. From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Jun 25 16:21:53 2008 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:21:53 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Automated Reply from Nicole Younger Message-ID: <062520082221.28889.4862C50100075826000070D92200751090CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Now if we could get Kathy's email address.....hehehehehehehehe..... Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: ljordan704 at netscape.net > Kathy's probably out of the office too. Dang government > job..................... > > Linda > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pjmill at sonic.net > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:02 pm > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Automated Reply from Nicole Younger > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, Nicole is out of the office AGAIN! Shall we all call Kathy?!!!! ;-) > > > > > I will be out of the office, in the field starting Monday June 16 and will > > be returning Thursday July 3rd. > > > > If you are in need of assistance please contact my office manager, Kathy, > > at 541-929-3408. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From tputland at charter.net Wed Jun 25 16:23:34 2008 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:23:34 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] This is too much.... In-Reply-To: <836866.98513.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080625182334.WKXY4.634794.root@fepweb12> Yea, I know they are stripped. I was trying to send in a way that I thought might go through. I don't have a web site. I just saved a picture from somewhere. No big deal. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Gary McCormick wrote: From tputland at charter.net Wed Jun 25 16:26:53 2008 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:26:53 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Automated Reply from Nicole Younger In-Reply-To: <8CAA52225027C90-129C-AB3@webmail-ne17.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20080625182653.T01GO.634863.root@fepweb12> I don't think it is a government job ,,,,she has a .com email addy. Government addys are .gov, or .org as far as I know. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: ============= Kathy's probably out of the office too. Dang government job..................... Linda -----Original Message----- From: pjmill at sonic.net To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:02 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Automated Reply from Nicole Younger Well, Nicole is out of the office AGAIN! Shall we all call Kathy?!!!! ;-) > I will be out of the office, in the field starting Monday June 16 and will > be returning Thursday July 3rd. > > If you are in need of assistance please contact my office manager, Kathy, > at 541-929-3408. You are subscribed as tputland at charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From fairlady66 at gmail.com Wed Jun 25 17:33:04 2008 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:33:04 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Automated Reply from Nicole Younger In-Reply-To: <200806251812.m5PICABc023250@blue88.secure-access.net> References: <200806251812.m5PICABc023250@blue88.secure-access.net> Message-ID: Maybe she is not gone at all and she is just sending these notices out to make us think she is gone so she can see what are saying about her.. :o) She sure goes out in the field a lot, wonder what she does out int he field. When I was a kid I only went out in the field to rake horse poop. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Nicole Younger wrote: > I will be out of the office, in the field starting Monday June 16 and will > be returning Thursday July 3rd. > > If you are in need of assistance please contact my office manager, Kathy, > at 541-929-3408. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fairlady66 at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Jun 25 17:42:27 2008 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:42:27 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Automated Reply from Nicole Younger Message-ID: <062520082342.13240.4862D7E3000BD4BA000033B82200751090CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> >From Nicole's company's website: Established in January 1994, Integrated Resource Management is a full service forestry consulting firm based in Philomath, Oregon. IRM is dedicated to planning and implementing sustainable and restorative forestry. Checking the Contacts page, Nicole is a Project Manager, so my guess is she's out in the field managing the people who rake the poop. Checked on the 311s.org forum. Nicole is a new roadster owner (March 2008): Hey, Nicole! We're talking about ya behind yer back! Pete "mixing it up on hump day" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" > Maybe she is not gone at all and she is just sending these notices out to > make us think she is gone so she can see what are saying about her.. :o) > > She sure goes out in the field a lot, wonder what she does out int he field. > When I was a kid I only went out in the field to rake horse poop. > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Nicole Younger > wrote: > > > I will be out of the office, in the field starting Monday June 16 and will > > be returning Thursday July 3rd. > > > > If you are in need of assistance please contact my office manager, Kathy, > > at 541-929-3408. > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as fairlady66 at gmail.com > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > > > > -- > '66 1600 > Riverside, CA > ------------------------------------------------------ > This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. > > If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky > enough. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From tom at datsun2000.com Wed Jun 25 19:21:08 2008 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:21:08 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Shasta Message-ID: I will be going down on the 10th or 11th. Not sure yet, and may be staying in at the Motel6 in Weed to help with the expenses. For those wondering about where to contact the various motels in the area I have a ton of info on the nowroc.org EVENTS CALENDAR page. http://www.nowroc.org/events/. There is also a caravan list if anybody wants to send me their travel info. I will be happy to keep the list updated so people can meet for caravaning down. The hydrogen gas generator is installed in Mr. Hyde in a very temporary manner until I know whether or not the system meets my expectations or not. If the system works as advertised I will design a proper management system and install it in place of the manual power control I am current using. I am looking forward to seeing what happens on the way South to Shasta. I will be interested in seeing how Keith's exhaust gas measurements will read the output of the exhaust. Pictures on the TECH pages of datsun2000.com., http://www.datsun2000.com/tech/h2gen.htm. Early testing will start in the next couple of days. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On 6/25/2008 6:58:34 AM, Dennis Louthan (68roadster at charter.net) wrote: > Anyone going to Shasta this year? > > Dennis > 68 Stroker > Minden, NV From bubwin at mts.net Wed Jun 25 21:06:54 2008 From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:06:54 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Automated Reply from Nicole Younger In-Reply-To: References: <200806251812.m5PICABc023250@blue88.secure-access.net> Message-ID: <58347F8234154CCD9330590A30D0E561@ownerPC> She's someone who really is outstanding (out standing?) in her field! Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: "Nicole Younger" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Automated Reply from Nicole Younger > Maybe she is not gone at all and she is just sending these notices out to > make us think she is gone so she can see what are saying about her.. :o) > > She sure goes out in the field a lot, wonder what she does out int he > field. > When I was a kid I only went out in the field to rake horse poop. > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Nicole Younger > wrote: > >> I will be out of the office, in the field starting Monday June 16 and >> will >> be returning Thursday July 3rd. >> >> If you are in need of assistance please contact my office manager, Kathy, >> at 541-929-3408. >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as fairlady66 at gmail.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> > > > > -- > '66 1600 > Riverside, CA > ------------------------------------------------------ > This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. > > If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky > enough. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin at mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From fairlady66 at gmail.com Wed Jun 25 21:22:20 2008 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:22:20 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Automated Reply from Nicole Younger In-Reply-To: <58347F8234154CCD9330590A30D0E561@ownerPC> References: <200806251812.m5PICABc023250@blue88.secure-access.net> <58347F8234154CCD9330590A30D0E561@ownerPC> Message-ID: So she o? Maybe she is a "Branch" Manager :o) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Bubba Date: Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Automated Reply from Nicole Younger < nicole at irmforestry.com> To: Chris & Christy Breyer , Nicole Younger < nicole at irmforestry.com> Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net She's someone who really is outstanding (out standing?) in her field! Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" < fairlady66 at gmail.com> To: "Nicole Younger" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Automated Reply from Nicole Younger < nicole at irmforestry.com> Maybe she is not gone at all and she is just sending these notices out to > make us think she is gone so she can see what are saying about her.. :o) > > She sure goes out in the field a lot, wonder what she does out int he > field. > When I was a kid I only went out in the field to rake horse poop. > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Nicole Younger > wrote: > > I will be out of the office, in the field starting Monday June 16 and will >> be returning Thursday July 3rd. >> >> If you are in need of assistance please contact my office manager, Kathy, >> at 541-929-3408. >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as fairlady66 at gmail.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> >> > > > -- > '66 1600 > Riverside, CA > ------------------------------------------------------ > This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. > > If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky > enough. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin at mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. From ljordan704 at netscape.net Wed Jun 25 21:41:10 2008 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:41:10 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Automated Reply from Nicole Younger In-Reply-To: References: <200806251812.m5PICABc023250@blue88.secure-access.net> <58347F8234154CCD9330590A30D0E561@ownerPC> Message-ID: <8CAA5559B99F333-1694-1938@webmail-nd12.sysops.aol.com> Can she see the forest for the trees? L -----Original Message----- From: Chris & Christy Breyer To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 8:22 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Automated Reply from Nicole Younger So she o? Maybe she is a "Branch" Manager :o) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Bubba Date: Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Automated Reply from Nicole Younger < nicole at irmforestry.com> To: Chris & Christy Breyer , Nicole Younger < nicole at irmforestry.com> Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net She's someone who really is outstanding (out standing?) in her field! Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" < fairlady66 at gmail.com> To: "Nicole Younger" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Automated Reply from Nicole Younger < nicole at irmforestry.com> Maybe she is not gone at all and she is just sending these notices out to > make us think she is gone so she can see what are saying about her.. :o) > > She sure goes out in the field a lot, wonder what she does out int he > field. > When I was a kid I only went out in the field to rake horse poop. > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Nicole Younger > wrote: > > I will be out of the office, in the field starting Monday June 16 and will >> be returning Thursday July 3rd. >> >> If you are in need of assistance please contact my office manager, Kathy, >> at 541-929-3408. >> ________________________________________ From gsglasgow at comcast.net Wed Jun 25 21:54:08 2008 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:54:08 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Shasta In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002f01c8d740$4a085d00$de191700$@net> I had a methane gas generator installed the other day. Boy, was that good chili! ;-) Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Hendricksen Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 6:21 PM To: Datsun Roadster List; 68roadster at charter.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Shasta The hydrogen gas generator is installed in Mr. Hyde in a very temporary manner until I know whether or not the system meets my expectations or not. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org From gsglasgow at comcast.net Wed Jun 25 21:56:07 2008 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:56:07 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Automated Reply from Nicole Younger In-Reply-To: <8CAA5559B99F333-1694-1938@webmail-nd12.sysops.aol.com> References: <200806251812.m5PICABc023250@blue88.secure-access.net> <58347F8234154CCD9330590A30D0E561@ownerPC> <8CAA5559B99F333-1694-1938@webmail-nd12.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <003001c8d740$913445e0$b39cd1a0$@net> Wood you all stop it with the puns? ;-) Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ljordan704 at netscape.net Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:41 PM To: fairlady66 at gmail.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fwd: Automated Reply from Nicole Younger Can she see the forest for the trees? L -----Original Message----- From: Chris & Christy Breyer To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 8:22 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Automated Reply from Nicole Younger So she o? Maybe she is a "Branch" Manager :o) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Bubba Date: Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Automated Reply from Nicole Younger < nicole at irmforestry.com> To: Chris & Christy Breyer , Nicole Younger < nicole at irmforestry.com> Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net She's someone who really is outstanding (out standing?) in her field! Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" < fairlady66 at gmail.com> To: "Nicole Younger" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Automated Reply from Nicole Younger < nicole at irmforestry.com> Maybe she is not gone at all and she is just sending these notices out to > make us think she is gone so she can see what are saying about her.. :o) > > She sure goes out in the field a lot, wonder what she does out int he > field. > When I was a kid I only went out in the field to rake horse poop. > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Nicole Younger > wrote: > > I will be out of the office, in the field starting Monday June 16 and will >> be returning Thursday July 3rd. >> >> If you are in need of assistance please contact my office manager, Kathy, >> at 541-929-3408. >> ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From Keith0alan at aol.com Thu Jun 26 05:21:17 2008 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 07:21:17 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Shasta Message-ID: In a message dated 6/25/2008 6:22:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, tom at datsun2000.com writes: The hydrogen gas generator is installed in Mr. Hyde in a very temporary manner until I know whether or not the system meets my expectations or not. If the system works as advertised I will design a proper management system and install it in place of the manual power control I am current using. I am looking forward to seeing what happens on the way South to Shasta. I will be interested in seeing how Keith's exhaust gas measurements will read the output of the exhaust. Pictures on the TECH pages of datsun2000.com., http://www.datsun2000.com/tech/h2gen.htm. Early testing will start in the next couple of days. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland I'll be there. Looking forward to checking it out. I suspect I know how it will turn out but I'll keep an open mind. keith **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) From tputland at charter.net Thu Jun 26 05:24:48 2008 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 4:24:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Shasta In-Reply-To: <002f01c8d740$4a085d00$de191700$@net> Message-ID: <20080626072448.GD7JU.628682.root@fepweb16> OH Lord help us please. This concersation string is rapidly spiraling downhill like a typical dinner table conversation from my childhood years. Speaking of S**T! Tim ---- Gordon Glasgow wrote: ============= I had a methane gas generator installed the other day. Boy, was that good chili! ;-) Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Hendricksen Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 6:21 PM To: Datsun Roadster List; 68roadster at charter.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Shasta The hydrogen gas generator is installed in Mr. Hyde in a very temporary manner until I know whether or not the system meets my expectations or not. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org You are subscribed as tputland at charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From jrdmf at aol.com Thu Jun 26 09:20:06 2008 From: jrdmf at aol.com (jrdmf at aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:20:06 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 2000 for sale In-Reply-To: <8CAA4F46114889F-A78-ABB@webmail-nc12.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CAA4F46114889F-A78-ABB@webmail-nc12.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CAA5B73F35F663-14FC-28E0@webmail-ne18.sysops.aol.com> Thanks to everyone for the overwhelming interest but?car #00402 has been?sold. Jon Frampton Huntington Beach (One less Roadster) -----Original Message----- From: jrdmf at aol.com To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 9:05 am Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 2000 for sale Hey list.... I have a 67.5 2000 that I am?going to sell if anybody is interested? It is a project that I picked up about 4 years ago but have since decided to concentrate?all my energy on #00003.?The car for sale is?serial number 402 and?it still has the numbers matching block along with the un-cut non smog head. It has all of the important stuff like head rests, visors, gauges etc. (Sorry no?license trim but the mounting holes are clearly visible.) I can email pics and details so interested parties should probably contact me off list. Not trying to make any money on this deal but?would like?to get back what I have into it. (About $4000.00) The car is in Huntington Beach and can be viewed any time. Thanks, Jon Frampton Huntington Beach You are subscribed as jrdmf at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov Thu Jun 26 09:20:20 2008 From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:20:20 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 311's down Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76B918C0@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> Hey - I see 311' is down for maintenance and with a new warning about "not so nice" posting. I have not looked at the site in a while and don't know the details - last time I looked someone was looking at building lower a-arm shafts. Been busy working on and driving the Roadster - not much time to sit in front of a computer. Lost my clutch slave cylinder and like Matt had to double clutch home. New rebuild kit at NAPA for 8 bucks and back on the road. Hey all you SOLEX guys - So, how loud are your Solex's?? Man, these things are LOUD! Not a bad loud, but a cool loud. At partial throttle they make a "blunk, blunk" noise and at WOT they wake the sleeping dogs in three counties. I need to do the Keith/color tune deal so I can get the mixture right. Having a great time sliding around corners this summer. Son is home from HI - he is really grown! And a good looking Marine. He bought the '66 from me and has been driving the wheels off it. That thing is so dependable. He comes in the driveway with that Roadster smile a lot! Now he wishes he had the Roadster shipped to HI instead of the Z he built (260 with 4.3L). Have a great day! Phil SEROC From jrdmf at aol.com Thu Jun 26 10:44:43 2008 From: jrdmf at aol.com (jrdmf at aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:44:43 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 311's down In-Reply-To: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76B918C0@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> References: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76B918C0@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <8CAA5C311A543C5-129C-3095@webmail-ne17.sysops.aol.com> Phil, ? Yeh, they shut it down because the kids just wouldn't play nice. Seems like?you can't?even mention the word "ball joint" without stirring up the hornets nest of arm chair engineers and wannabe vendors. (No diss-respect to the real vendors or?the one real engineer :-) ? Definitely sucks for the guys who just use the sight for the resource that?it was intended to be. (I listed a car for sale and now I can't get back in to tell everyone it's been sold.) ? The good news for Steve is that by the time this is over with he will have one more credential to add to his resume. "Pre-school administrator". Gotta pay better than running a Roadster forum? ? Jon Frampton Huntington Beach -----Original Message----- From: Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03) To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 8:20 am Subject: [Roadsters] 311's down Hey - I see 311' is down for maintenance and with a new warning about "not so nice" posting. I have not looked at the site in a while and don't know the details - last time I looked someone was looking at building lower a-arm shafts. Been busy working on and driving the Roadster - not much time to sit in front of a computer. Lost my clutch slave cylinder and like Matt had to double clutch home. New rebuild kit at NAPA for 8 bucks and back on the road. Hey all you SOLEX guys - So, how loud are your Solex's?? Man, these things are LOUD! Not a bad loud, but a cool loud. At partial throttle they make a "blunk, blunk" noise and at WOT they wake the sleeping dogs in three counties. I need to do the Keith/color tune deal so I can get the mixture right. Having a great time sliding around corners this summer. Son is home from HI - he is really grown! And a good looking Marine. He bought the '66 from me and has been driving the wheels off it. That thing is so dependable. He comes in the driveway with that Roadster smile a lot! Now he wishes he had the Roadster shipped to HI instead of the Z he built (260 with 4.3L). Have a great day! Phil SEROC You are subscribed as jrdmf at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From RWM at RWMann.com Thu Jun 26 10:54:36 2008 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:54:36 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 311's down In-Reply-To: <8CAA5C311A543C5-129C-3095@webmail-ne17.sysops.aol.com> References: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76B918C0@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> <8CAA5C311A543C5-129C-3095@webmail-ne17.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4863C9CC.7060606@RWMann.com> Phil, I've always considered the induction sounds to be part of the Solex appeal. It sure isn't the gas mileage! - Bob > >-----Original Message----- >From: Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03) >To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Sent: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 8:20 am >Subject: [Roadsters] 311's down > > > >Hey all you SOLEX guys - So, how loud are your Solex's?? Man, these >things are LOUD! Not a bad loud, but a cool loud. At partial throttle >they make a "blunk, blunk" noise and at WOT they wake the sleeping dogs >in three counties. I need to do the Keith/color tune deal so I can get >the mixture right. Having a great time sliding around corners this >summer. From alagams at juno.com Thu Jun 26 11:14:27 2008 From: alagams at juno.com (alagams at juno.com) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:14:27 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] 311s Message-ID: <20080626.131427.22037.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com> Too bad about the 311s site............can't we all just get along..... LOL Gary ____________________________________________________________ Summer Spa Sweepstakes Enter for your chance to WIN a Summer Spa Vacation! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7U70ev1qv1tSGB9FtvAFqPNKio ZFQmCUNSfOW0bt70ulvR0/ From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Thu Jun 26 11:19:22 2008 From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:19:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 311's down In-Reply-To: <8CAA5C311A543C5-129C-3095@webmail-ne17.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <609495.41674.qm@web51103.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Anarchy is fine, but doesn't work in a business, club or website. You need a benevelent dictatorship. Jim --- On Thu, 6/26/08, jrdmf at aol.com wrote: From: jrdmf at aol.com Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 311's down To: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 12:44 PM Phil, ? Yeh, they shut it down because the kids just wouldn't play nice. Seems like?you can't?even mention the word "ball joint" without stirring up the hornets nest of arm chair engineers and wannabe vendors. (No diss-respect to the real vendors or?the one real engineer :-) ? Definitely sucks for the guys who just use the sight for the resource that?it was intended to be. (I listed a car for sale and now I can't get back in to tell everyone it's been sold.) ? The good news for Steve is that by the time this is over with he will have one more credential to add to his resume. "Pre-school administrator". Gotta pay better than running a Roadster forum? ? Jon Frampton Huntington Beach -----Original Message----- From: Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03) To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 8:20 am Subject: [Roadsters] 311's down Hey - I see 311' is down for maintenance and with a new warning about "not so nice" posting. I have not looked at the site in a while and don't know the details - last time I looked someone was looking at building lower a-arm shafts. Been busy working on and driving the Roadster - not much time to sit in front of a computer. Lost my clutch slave cylinder and like Matt had to double clutch home. New rebuild kit at NAPA for 8 bucks and back on the road. Hey all you SOLEX guys - So, how loud are your Solex's?? Man, these things are LOUD! Not a bad loud, but a cool loud. At partial throttle they make a "blunk, blunk" noise and at WOT they wake the sleeping dogs in three counties. I need to do the Keith/color tune deal so I can get the mixture right. Having a great time sliding around corners this summer. Son is home from HI - he is really grown! And a good looking Marine. He bought the '66 from me and has been driving the wheels off it. That thing is so dependable. He comes in the driveway with that Roadster smile a lot! Now he wishes he had the Roadster shipped to HI instead of the Z he built (260 with 4.3L). Have a great day! Phil SEROC You are subscribed as jrdmf at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datrock at centurytel.net Thu Jun 26 11:24:54 2008 From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:24:54 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 66 spl inside door latch problems Message-ID: <4863D0E6.2010402@centurytel.net> Hi, I'm trying to figure out why on a 66 spl the outside handle will work but the inside one doesn't. To me, it is as if the long arm is not moving far enough to release the striker. I used a small mirror and checked out inside the door and both ends of the rod are fastened and the rod seams to be looser than the passenger side which works fine. I know being an spl the left door it gets used more so it is expected to be worn more than the right side. It looks like on both doors the arm floats but on the drivers side it floats a little to much. So is there an adjustment I'm not aware of or possibly a simple fix to this problem... last resort.... are replacement parts are needed? thanks.... Bill From solex675 at hotmail.com Thu Jun 26 11:43:32 2008 From: solex675 at hotmail.com (Andrew Murphy) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:43:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 311s down Message-ID: All, I rarely contribute anymore to the list or the forum simply because in the past it was often rewarded with people's bad behavior which caused me to act badly in return. Life is too short to do something in your free time that is not fun so I pretty much opted out. I hope that people can realize it is about the cars and nothing else. Andrew Murphy 1966 1600 _________________________________________________________________ The im Talkathon starts 6/24/08. For now, give amongst yourselves. http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnMore_GiveAmongst From tom at datsun2000.com Thu Jun 26 12:02:12 2008 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:02:12 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 311's down Message-ID: > Having a great time sliding around corners this summer.> Now you know how Mr. Hyde got his name :') Even with SU's. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org From skysailor42 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 26 12:21:51 2008 From: skysailor42 at yahoo.com (Jim Grimes) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop for sale Message-ID: <606323.7495.qm@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hey everybody, I'm selling my low windshield 311 hardtop. Need both the space and the money! It's a SnugTop model in great shape! Good rubber, good glass! Only $600! I live in the Los Angeles area. You can pick it up here, or I will deliver up to 150 miles for fuel cost reimbursment. Thanks! Jim Grimes 67.5 2000 Solex (doncha just love the summer?!) PS- Sorry, dadgummed Yahoo won't attach my pics! From skysailor42 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 26 12:22:37 2008 From: skysailor42 at yahoo.com (Jim Grimes) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:22:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop for sale Message-ID: <149108.24113.qm@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hey everybody, I'm selling my low windshield 311 hardtop. Need both the space and the money! It's a SnugTop model in great shape! Good rubber, good glass! Only $600! I live in the Los Angeles area. You can pick it up here, or I will deliver up to 150 miles for fuel cost reimbursment. Thanks! Jim Grimes 67.5 2000 Solex (doncha just love the summer?!) PS- Sorry, dadgummed Yahoo won't attach my pics! From etroxel at gmail.com Thu Jun 26 12:43:14 2008 From: etroxel at gmail.com (evan troxel) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:43:14 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1966 rolling chassis needs a new home In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5c303ea40806261143y989ea3by783f9d0a1d1fafe6@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, I'm putting it out there one more time. The first deal fell through so she's available once again. Seriously, just take it away. I need the space. Any takers? _Evan On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 10:58 PM, Evan Troxel wrote: > 1966 Datsun Roadster 1600 rolling chassis with body. Needs new home. This is > a rolling chassis that can be hauled on a flatbed or towed via dolly. All of > the suspension is intact. No other parts are available. > > It is covered in a light coat of surface rust, but as soon as it gets media > blasted, it'll be good as a 42 year old car can be. The body is very > straight and it has a few light rust areas that need patching. I had it > media blasted but other priorities have gotten in the way of this project > unfortunately. > > Email me with any questions you might have. Make me an offer and tow this > guy away! I am located in Rancho Cucamonga, Southern California. > > You can see pictures here: http://tinyurl.com/6r7vpk > > Thanks, > > Evan From mjb8 at psu.edu Thu Jun 26 13:22:43 2008 From: mjb8 at psu.edu (Mark Bregar) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:22:43 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Re: U-20 water pump question... Message-ID: <009501c8d7c2$07dbc610$c000a00a@arl.psu.edu> _____ From: Mark Bregar [mailto:mjb8 at psu.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:20 PM To: 'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net' Subject: Re: U-20 water pump question... 'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net' Hey all 1. Can someone please tell me how to get a U-20 water pump apart. Is the piece for the fan clutch pressed on or threaded. It has a hex head opening so seems to be threaded, but I certainly can't seem to get it loose. Tried a gear puller and that didn't move anything either. 2. On another thought, I have been replacing timing chain which had developed the "death rattle' and I did find the lower chain tensioner in the bottom of the forward cover. I guess I can be counted as one of the lucky ones who didn't destroy the engine. 3. If anyone is interested in a 69-2000 remains, I have one in the back yard that my wife wants out. The chassis is fairly intact but rusty, the body is very badly rusted, no engine or drivetrain, most of interior gone too. I'm am going to drag it off for scrap.. Email me directly if interested, I can give more details. I am in central Pa. Thanks. God bless. Mark J Bregar (mjb8 at psu.edu) From az589 at lafn.org Thu Jun 26 13:32:11 2008 From: az589 at lafn.org (Stan Chernoff) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:32:11 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Re: U-20 water pump question... In-Reply-To: <009501c8d7c2$07dbc610$c000a00a@arl.psu.edu> References: <009501c8d7c2$07dbc610$c000a00a@arl.psu.edu> Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20080626122839.0277dc40@lafn.org> Mark, The hex recess retaining bolt has a left hand thread. You need to turn it clockwise to loosen. The bearing presses on the shaft. Stan === At 12:22 PM 6/26/2008, Mark Bregar wrote: > _____ > >From: Mark Bregar [mailto:mjb8 at psu.edu] >Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:20 PM >To: 'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net' >Subject: Re: U-20 water pump question... > > > >'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net' > > > >Hey all > >1. Can someone please tell me how to get a U-20 water pump apart. Is the >piece for the fan clutch pressed on or threaded. It has a hex head opening >so seems to be threaded, but I certainly can't seem to get it loose. Tried a >gear puller and that didn't move anything either. > > > > >Thanks. > >God bless. > > > >Mark J Bregar (mjb8 at psu.edu) From datrock at centurytel.net Thu Jun 26 13:26:27 2008 From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:26:27 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 66 door is working again Message-ID: <4863ED63.50805@centurytel.net> Well, I took the interior door handle mechanism out by removing the 3 screws, once the mechanism detached from the long arm I straightened the short arm on it and reinstalled it and both inside and outside handles work. Things must have got a little tweaked over the 40 plus years... thanks for all the responces and the offer for the parts that may have been needed...Bill From andycost at embarqmail.com Thu Jun 26 14:04:04 2008 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Embarq Customer) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:04:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Shasta In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1018171402.3522491214510644477.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com> With a little research I came up with the following numbers. Hydrogen is 980.6 BTU/Lb. Gasoline is 125,000 BTU/Lb. It will take 127.5 gallons of liquid hydrogen to equal 1 gallon of gas. If you try to generate hydrogen from water you need 14.13 gallons of water to get 1 gallon of Hydrogen. To get the same amount of energy from 1 gallon of gas you would need to convert 1801 gallons of water to Hydrogen. How far did you say Shasta was from your house? ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith0alan at aol.com To: tom at datsun2000.com, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net, 68roadster at charter.net Sent: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 07:21:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Shasta In a message dated 6/25/2008 6:22:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, tom at datsun2000.com writes: The hydrogen gas generator is installed in Mr. Hyde in a very temporary manner until I know whether or not the system meets my expectations or not. If the system works as advertised I will design a proper management system and install it in place of the manual power control I am current using. I am looking forward to seeing what happens on the way South to Shasta. I will be interested in seeing how Keith's exhaust gas measurements will read the output of the exhaust. Pictures on the TECH pages of datsun2000.com., http://www.datsun2000.com/tech/h2gen.htm. Early testing will start in the next couple of days. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland I'll be there. Looking forward to checking it out. I suspect I know how it will turn out but I'll keep an open mind. keith **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) You are subscribed as andycost at embarqmail.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Thu Jun 26 14:51:37 2008 From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:51:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Shasta In-Reply-To: <1018171402.3522491214510644477.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com> Message-ID: <930082.97548.qm@web51109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> How long will liquid hydrogen stay liquid in a roadster tank? Maybe that is why they are working so hard on fuel cells. Jim --- On Thu, 6/26/08, Embarq Customer wrote: From: Embarq Customer Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Shasta To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 4:04 PM With a little research I came up with the following numbers. Hydrogen is 980.6 BTU/Lb. Gasoline is 125,000 BTU/Lb. It will take 127.5 gallons of liquid hydrogen to equal 1 gallon of gas. If you try to generate hydrogen from water you need 14.13 gallons of water to get 1 gallon of Hydrogen. To get the same amount of energy from 1 gallon of gas you would need to convert 1801 gallons of water to Hydrogen. How far did you say Shasta was from your house? ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith0alan at aol.com To: tom at datsun2000.com, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net, 68roadster at charter.net Sent: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 07:21:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Shasta In a message dated 6/25/2008 6:22:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, tom at datsun2000.com writes: The hydrogen gas generator is installed in Mr. Hyde in a very temporary manner until I know whether or not the system meets my expectations or not. If the system works as advertised I will design a proper management system and install it in place of the manual power control I am current using. I am looking forward to seeing what happens on the way South to Shasta. I will be interested in seeing how Keith's exhaust gas measurements will read the output of the exhaust. Pictures on the TECH pages of datsun2000.com., http://www.datsun2000.com/tech/h2gen.htm. Early testing will start in the next couple of days. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland I'll be there. Looking forward to checking it out. I suspect I know how it will turn out but I'll keep an open mind. keith **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) You are subscribed as andycost at embarqmail.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Thu Jun 26 14:59:23 2008 From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:59:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Carb Saga Message-ID: <174886.9630.qm@web51103.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I have to apologize the Dean and Keith for not knowing they did carbs. I sent the carbs off the Z therapy, so what's done is. Jim From Keith0alan at aol.com Thu Jun 26 15:48:29 2008 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:48:29 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Carb Saga Message-ID: In a message dated 6/26/2008 1:59:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com writes: I have to apologize the Dean and Keith for not knowing they did carbs. I sent the carbs off the Z therapy, so what's done is. Jim You don't need to apologize to me. Z therapy does good work and they are usually much faster than I am. It's a hobby for me and a business for them. Unless I have a set done and waiting I'm just not up to a quick turn around. However, I can provide more personal service for those who don't mind waiting. I am just as happy helping with setup and trouble shooting of carbs done by other folks as those I've done. It's about seeing the smiles when the cars are running well. keith "the slow carb guy" williams **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) From graemes at internode.on.net Thu Jun 26 19:10:01 2008 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:40:01 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] 311s In-Reply-To: <20080626.131427.22037.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com> References: <20080626.131427.22037.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <000c01c8d7f2$88d58050$236fa8c0@desktop> ............can't we all just get along..... The answer to that is NO! The reason is that we are all DIFFERENT! I try to ignore the threads that develop into that unpleasantness. It is and hopefully will remain an excellent resource for the cars. From gogineni.alvin at gene.com Thu Jun 26 19:17:16 2008 From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:17:16 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Toyo888/R1R-feedback? Message-ID: <010b01c8d7f3$899187e0$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com> Does anyone have personal experience with these new tires from Toyo? Compared to RA-1? From gsglasgow at comcast.net Thu Jun 26 21:54:37 2008 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:54:37 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Carb Saga In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005501c8d809$8535a5d0$8fa0f170$@net> I am just as happy helping with setup and trouble shooting of carbs done by other folks as those I've done. It's about seeing the smiles when the cars are running well. keith "the slow carb guy" williams Amen, Keith. Now that's true Roadster Owner spirit! Gordon Glasgow From fj20spl311 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 26 22:35:29 2008 From: fj20spl311 at yahoo.com (philip erickson) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:35:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 2, Issue 269 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <545010.33849.qm@web31903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hydrogen is 980.6 BTU/Lb. Gasoline is 125,000 BTU/Lb. Andy, You might want to recheck you research...... Hint: If gasoline had so much greater energy per LB, I don't think you would see hydrogen powering men into space. Phil From jover4x4 at aol.com Thu Jun 26 23:27:12 2008 From: jover4x4 at aol.com (jover4x4 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 01:27:12 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 2, Issue 269 In-Reply-To: <545010.33849.qm@web31903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CAA62D96328187-F58-CDC@webmail-ne11.sysops.aol.com> How about 51,000?Btu/lb?(LHV) to 61,000 Btu/lb (HHV) for hydrogen and 18,000(LHV) to 20,000(HHV) for gasoline.? H2 has ~3x more btu/ lb than gasoline, more than any other solid, gaseous or liquid fuel.? John O -----Original Message----- From: philip erickson To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:35 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 2, Issue 269 Hydrogen is 980.6 BTU/Lb. Gasoline is 125,000 BTU/Lb. Andy, You might want to recheck you research...... Hint: If gasoline had so much greater energy per LB, I don't think you would see hydrogen powering men into space. Phil You are subscribed as jover4x4 at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From escanlon at wa-net.com Fri Jun 27 00:11:15 2008 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:11:15 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Canby References: <005501c8d809$8535a5d0$8fa0f170$@net> Message-ID: <009601c8d81c$9b9a1730$0300a8c0@HPW> Gordon; Did you make it to Canby? I don't recall meeting you, so either my memory is going or ... I do recall meeting Lee, but I didn't get a chance to talk much and .... So... sorry, Lee, hope you will make it down to Blue Lake in August, you too Gordon. Maybe we can even cajole Pete into putting some miles on one of his cars.... or at least the ones he's taken pictures of and "claims" as his..... LOL Just Kidding Pete!!! (There, was that plain enough???) E From larrybraddock at ca.rr.com Fri Jun 27 12:32:10 2008 From: larrybraddock at ca.rr.com (Larry Braddock) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:32:10 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] craigs list Message-ID: Question for you who know a lot more about computors than I. I've listed an ad on Craigslist 2 x's for a roadster (1 too cheap, the other maybe not). Within minutes I got inquiries. On one I got 13 inquiries within 1 hour. Now I know a few people have time to stare at their computors 24 hours a day, but it seems there must be a program that alerts one when ever a pre-programed item appears on the list. Anyone know anything about this? Larry From tputland at charter.net Fri Jun 27 13:07:13 2008 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:07:13 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] U20 gasket sets Message-ID: <20080627150713.LR1L6.510015.root@fepweb06> Is there a major difference between the complete u20 gasket sets from 1969 to 1970 models? Thanks Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning From gogineni.alvin at gene.com Fri Jun 27 16:25:55 2008 From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:25:55 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Blackhawk Datsun Show Caravan 6/28 Message-ID: <011a01c8d8a4$c45bdd10$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com> All, We are leaving to show tomorrow(Saturday) at 7am from ZCarGarage in San Jose: 140 Archer St. San Jose, 95112 Registration is at 8am in Danville. See you there! From 9laser3 at bright.net Fri Jun 27 16:35:30 2008 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:35:30 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Probodies fiberglass parts? Message-ID: <003901c8d8a6$1be01460$53a03d20$@net> Has anybody bought any roadster pieces from these folks? http://www.prodbodies.com/datsun.html Paul Ohio From lars.tungen at abaris.no Fri Jun 27 18:25:01 2008 From: lars.tungen at abaris.no (Lars Tungen) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 02:25:01 +0200 Subject: [Roadsters] U20 gasket sets In-Reply-To: <20080627150713.LR1L6.510015.root@fepweb06> References: <20080627150713.LR1L6.510015.root@fepweb06> Message-ID: <015301c8d8b5$674933f0$353ea8c0@ABARIS.LOCAL> > Is there a major difference between the complete u20 gasket > sets from 1969 to 1970 models? They are the same for all years, according the Nissan parts manual. Regards, Lars Tungen Norway http://datsun311.partsmanual.net/ From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri Jun 27 19:20:44 2008 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:20:44 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Automated Reply from Nicole Younger In-Reply-To: <003001c8d740$913445e0$b39cd1a0$@net> Message-ID: HEY! Kathy's email address in on the Contacts list... ...no....guess we shouldn't, hehehehehehehe. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Glasgow Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:56 PM To: ljordan704 at netscape.net; fairlady66 at gmail.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fwd: Automated Reply from Nicole Younger Wood you all stop it with the puns? ;-) Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ljordan704 at netscape.net Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:41 PM To: fairlady66 at gmail.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fwd: Automated Reply from Nicole Younger Can she see the forest for the trees? L -----Original Message----- From: Chris & Christy Breyer To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 8:22 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Automated Reply from Nicole Younger So she o? Maybe she is a "Branch" Manager :o) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Bubba Date: Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Automated Reply from Nicole Younger < nicole at irmforestry.com> To: Chris & Christy Breyer , Nicole Younger < nicole at irmforestry.com> Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net She's someone who really is outstanding (out standing?) in her field! Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" < fairlady66 at gmail.com> To: "Nicole Younger" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Automated Reply from Nicole Younger < nicole at irmforestry.com> Maybe she is not gone at all and she is just sending these notices out to > make us think she is gone so she can see what are saying about her.. :o) > > She sure goes out in the field a lot, wonder what she does out int he > field. When I was a kid I only went out in the field to rake horse > poop. > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Nicole Younger > > wrote: > > I will be out of the office, in the field starting Monday June 16 and > will >> be returning Thursday July 3rd. >> >> If you are in need of assistance please contact my office manager, >> Kathy, at 541-929-3408. ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gsglasgow at comcast.net Sat Jun 28 00:25:44 2008 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:25:44 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Probodies fiberglass parts? In-Reply-To: <003901c8d8a6$1be01460$53a03d20$@net> References: <003901c8d8a6$1be01460$53a03d20$@net> Message-ID: <002a01c8d8e7$cbf9cd50$63ed67f0$@net> Didn't someone mention recently that ProdBodies is the new name for JapCo? If so, lots of racers have run their panels. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 3:36 PM To: 'datsun-roadsters' Subject: [Roadsters] Probodies fiberglass parts? Has anybody bought any roadster pieces from these folks? http://www.prodbodies.com/datsun.html Paul Ohio Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From racery at comcast.net Sat Jun 28 13:10:59 2008 From: racery at comcast.net (racery at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:10:59 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Toyo 888's vs RA1's Message-ID: <062820081910.13131.48668CC3000B019F0000334B2200751090979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net> I've run the 888's for a couple of weekends now- they're significantly different than the RA 1. For starters, compared with RA1's with the same sidewall markings, they're bigger. They have squarer shoulders and more meat on the edges. They seem to need less static camber, and less pressure. Compared to an RA1 in like condition, they appear to wear faster. They also grip better, as in about a second a lap better. They do yowl- High third into 4th, there's a defined growl that gets louder with speed. As they slip, they're pretty quiet, but you can still drive them by ear- as in, when you're out of lateral grip and starting to slide, they make a definate 'sliding tire' sound that you can modulate. Good under braking, stable under acceleration- when the rear breaks loose, it's easy to catch. I got rained on once with these tires- they weren't good on my car in the wet. But I had too much camber and pressure for rain... In short, an evolution of the RA1. Toby From skysailor42 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 29 02:31:20 2008 From: skysailor42 at yahoo.com (Jim Grimes) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 01:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop for sale (update) Message-ID: <321921.90938.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi All, Okay, here's the updated version. I'm selling my hardtop for a low windshield SRL/SPL 311. I still can't get yahoo to attach my pics, but I've listed the top on Craigslist and there are pics on the ad. Here's the link http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/pts/736543853.html If you live within 150 miles of Los Angeles, I will deliver it for fuel costs, or you can pick it up. I'll even wash and Armor All it for ya! Jim Grimes 67.5 Mikuni 2000 From mark at dealermats.com Sun Jun 29 11:36:23 2008 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:36:23 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Son will be in New Zealand and Australia for 3 weeks Message-ID: <02F24D08C73B4FC08972961E05BE2C2B@LAPTOP> My 16 year old will be in New Zealand and Australia from July 21st through August 6th. Since his first car is a 69 2000 he is trying to figure a way to get a photo with one of yours. He has a pretty full schedule but there has to be a way to get one. He will be in Auckland, Wellington, Queen Charlotte, Christchurch, NZ and Cairns, Sydney, South Stradbroke Island, Australia. Any ideas? Mark From tminerpcav at aol.com Sun Jun 29 12:58:41 2008 From: tminerpcav at aol.com (tminerpcav at aol.com) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:58:41 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Son will be in New Zealand and Australia for 3 weeks In-Reply-To: <02F24D08C73B4FC08972961E05BE2C2B@LAPTOP> References: <02F24D08C73B4FC08972961E05BE2C2B@LAPTOP> Message-ID: <8CAA83147AC574E-F5C-EE@webmail-nb12.sysops.aol.com> Mark, Why don't you post to the list and see if anyone in the cities he'll be in would be willing to pose for a picture.? Good idea huh? Tim Miner P.S. I don't know why you didn't think of this though. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Dent To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:36 am Subject: [Roadsters] Son will be in New Zealand and Australia for 3 weeks My 16 year old will be in New Zealand and Australia from July 21st through August 6th. Since his first car is a 69 2000 he is trying to figure a way to get a photo with one of yours. He has a pretty full schedule but there has to be a way to get one. He will be in Auckland, Wellington, Queen Charlotte, Christchurch, NZ and Cairns, Sydney, South Stradbroke Island, Australia. Any ideas? Mark You are subscribed as tminerpcav at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From graemes at internode.on.net Sun Jun 29 19:05:34 2008 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:35:34 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] Son will be in New Zealand and Australia for 3 weeks In-Reply-To: <02F24D08C73B4FC08972961E05BE2C2B@LAPTOP> References: <02F24D08C73B4FC08972961E05BE2C2B@LAPTOP> Message-ID: <000301c8da4d$68742c00$236fa8c0@desktop> "He will be in Auckland, Wellington, Queen Charlotte, Christchurch, NZ and Cairns, Sydney, South Stradbroke Island, Australia." I suggest an email to our east coast clubs to try and arrange a meeting: - http://www.datsun.org.au/ http://sydneydatsunclub.com/sdc/ I have no idea how many, if any, of these members are on this List. Your son is more than welcome in Adelaide but we are 1/2 way across the continent from Sydney. Oh, and don't let the East Coast folks try and convince your son that there is no life west of the Great Dividing Range!! From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sun Jun 29 20:25:56 2008 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:25:56 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Son will be in New Zealand and Australia for 3 weeks In-Reply-To: <02F24D08C73B4FC08972961E05BE2C2B@LAPTOP> Message-ID: <5F2884F8DC0B4E6188287FA400F40525@xp> That'll be fun, though you ain't kidding that that's a full schedule. Been most of those places, but it was two separate trips! Ummmm....he does know it's winter down there at that time, right? Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Dent Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 10:36 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Son will be in New Zealand and Australia for 3 weeks My 16 year old will be in New Zealand and Australia from July 21st through August 6th. Since his first car is a 69 2000 he is trying to figure a way to get a photo with one of yours. He has a pretty full schedule but there has to be a way to get one. He will be in Auckland, Wellington, Queen Charlotte, Christchurch, NZ and Cairns, Sydney, South Stradbroke Island, Australia. Any ideas? Mark Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From roadster68 at shaw.ca Sun Jun 29 21:10:12 2008 From: roadster68 at shaw.ca (Larry Dziuba) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:10:12 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Off Topic - 510 People - Just Purchased My First One References: <5F2884F8DC0B4E6188287FA400F40525@xp> Message-ID: <001201c8da5e$cf8c0460$6401a8c0@useravjfzd6udp> I am looking for some answers to water leaks in firewall area. Solutions? Larry. 68 2000 - 99.5% restored From graemes at internode.on.net Sun Jun 29 21:20:05 2008 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:50:05 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] Son will be in New Zealand and Australia for 3 weeks In-Reply-To: <011d01c8da54$02bfa040$6601a8c0@ACER4230> References: <02F24D08C73B4FC08972961E05BE2C2B@LAPTOP> <000301c8da4d$68742c00$236fa8c0@desktop> <011d01c8da54$02bfa040$6601a8c0@ACER4230> Message-ID: <001401c8da60$331b6c90$236fa8c0@desktop> What! Australia has an East Coast/West Cost divide? Which is the "no rust" coast? :) Richard (east coast & dealing with rust) Brown Now THAT detective, is the right question! We don't have a no rust coast as such but we certainly have a no rust beach. Central Oz is largely desert with minimum rainfall. Plenty of sun, plenty of sand but no water! There seems to be a fixation with the East Coast folks that the sun "shines" from the east. I prefer to just acknowledge the sun "rises" in the east. Yes, we are in the winter season as we speech. However, apart from the Australian Alps, which have larger ski fields in winter than Switzerland, our winters are reasonably mild. I don't believe any city here uses salt on the roads, our climate is no where near being that severe. So, winter, yes, but not like you experience in some parts of the US. I still hate the cold weather though!!!!! From graemes at internode.on.net Sun Jun 29 21:33:32 2008 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:03:32 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] Off Topic - 510 People - Just Purchased My First One In-Reply-To: <001201c8da5e$cf8c0460$6401a8c0@useravjfzd6udp> References: <5F2884F8DC0B4E6188287FA400F40525@xp> <001201c8da5e$cf8c0460$6401a8c0@useravjfzd6udp> Message-ID: <001501c8da62$123eb9d0$236fa8c0@desktop> "510 People I am looking for some answers to water leaks in firewall area. Solutions? Larry." Hi Larry, You need to be a little more specific as to where the leak is, into the cabin or what. However the 510 has a cowl drain from the plenum beneath the windshield that is a notorious trouble spot. It is an area where the firewall and trans. Tunnel almost co-incide but they "should" have a gap between them to drain the water onto the trans. Bell housing. The "drain" is easily closed over if bumped with an engine during instal/removal and is also easily clogged with debris. Check it out with a length of coathanger. Even if it is cleared the metal may have already rotted out creating a cabin leak. Two pics of where and what it is and a link for the List. http://tinyurl.com/4r4vus [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 510 body 2.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 510 body 3.jpg] From aultgc at att.net Sun Jun 29 23:12:13 2008 From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:12:13 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Newbie References: <931280.22566.qm@web55501.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00c301c8da6f$dc4518c0$6402a8c0@gaxp1> I've used 85W-90 gear oil in my trans, differential and steering for about 37 years. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "John F Sandhoff" To: "Mark Zitterich" Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Newbie >A lot has been answered but I'll throw in a couple of comments... > >> 1. Does the gearbox (4sp) and differential take 75W-90? > > The "real" datsun manual doesn't specify, Chiltons says 140 for > temps over 32. The scans of the owners manual on 311s.org may say. > >> 2. Is there an aftermarket electronic ignition system available? > > The "Gary Boone" distributor, now made by forgotten...>. Works on R-16 and U-20 and a darn good investment. > >> 3. The oil pressure and fuel guages work, but not the temp? > > Oil gauge is mechanical. Fuel and temp are electrical. As stated, the > sender is on the left front side of the head, sticking out sideways, > and directly under a smallish 90 degree metal pipe/fitting that hooks > to the tube underneath the carbs. You do NOT suffer the same problem > with grounding that the U20 people have. > > To test: unplug the wire from the sender and use a piece of wire > to ground it to the frame/block. Turn on the key. If the gauge zooms > to H the sender is bad. If the gauge doesn't move, either the wire > between the gauge and the sender is bad, the gauge itself is bad, > of the wire that supplies power to the gauge is bad (power for both > the fuel and temp gauges comes from a gadget that provides pulsating > voltage - a discussion for later). > > Getting the sender out can be problematic. You could really get > yourself in a pickle if you force things, so be careful. You don't > want to be pulling the head and taking it to a machine shop :-) > >> 4. What is the toggle switch on the left side of the steering wheel for? > > You mean the hi/low headlight beam switch? > > > -- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc at att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Mon Jun 30 09:11:15 2008 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:11:15 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Local Car Show Pics. Name that car: Brit? French? Italtan? Message-ID: This doesn't look French, and not Italian (unless this is what their industrial vehicles look like). Shortcut to: http://austingrade.com/cnc/page25/page28/files/IMG_6067.html Ya know, ya gotta have some nerve to spend so much to paint a car like this: (I wonder what it did to deserve this treatment) http://austingrade.com/cnc/page25/page28/files/IMG_6189.html And from the files of "another of Fergus' clown cars", my favorite: (early 60's Triumph Herald) http://austingrade.com/cnc/page25/page28/files/IMG_5998.html And enough Mini's to choke a .. (well, whatever you choke with Mini's): http://carsandcoffee.info/forum/showthread.php?t=864 From gogineni.alvin at gene.com Mon Jun 30 09:54:28 2008 From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:54:28 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 2008 Blackhawk Datsun Show pics Message-ID: <002801c8dac9$943c2370$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com> We had a great time at the show, I was a bit disappointed with the turnout though. 3 510s and 3 roadsters! http://rides.webshots.com/album/563940904DAXnrV From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov Mon Jun 30 11:09:53 2008 From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:09:53 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 2008 Blackhawk Datsun Show pics In-Reply-To: <002801c8dac9$943c2370$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com> References: <002801c8dac9$943c2370$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com> Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76B91EF6@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> Thanks for the picts Alvin - Always good to look at Datsuns. Hey - 3 Roadsters in one place in SEROC country is a huge event!! Phil SEROC -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team .net] On Behalf Of Alvin Gogineni Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:54 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] 2008 Blackhawk Datsun Show pics We had a great time at the show, I was a bit disappointed with the turnout though. 3 510s and 3 roadsters! http://rides.webshots.com/album/563940904DAXnrV ________________________________________ From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Jun 30 12:54:51 2008 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:54:51 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] 2008 Blackhawk Datsun Show pics Message-ID: <063020081854.19188.48692BFB000AF24600004AF42200734830CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Hey Alvin! Some girl was driving your Z! Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Alvin Gogineni > We had a great time at the show, I was a bit disappointed with the turnout > though. 3 510s and 3 roadsters! > > http://rides.webshots.com/album/563940904DAXnrV > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From tputland at charter.net Mon Jun 30 12:55:19 2008 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:55:19 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Bluebird on Craigslit MKE--someone forward please Message-ID: <20080630145519.DOWKM.606671.root@fepweb05> Someone forward this to the Bluebird's list please. http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/car/735802618.html Thanks Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Jun 30 13:02:14 2008 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:02:14 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Local Car Show Pics. Name that car: Brit? French? Italtan? Message-ID: <063020081902.20884.48692DB60009F9CE000051942207000953CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Damn! WT-heck -IS- that? Haha! I saw a F150 last night the same Pepto Pink.....gag! Wow! Damn things are multiplying! They have a pretty active group up here in the Puget Sound region, too. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" > This doesn't look French, and not Italian (unless this is what their > industrial vehicles look like). > > Shortcut to: > http://austingrade.com/cnc/page25/page28/files/IMG_6067.html > > Ya know, ya gotta have some nerve to spend so much to paint a car like > this: (I wonder what it did to deserve this treatment) > > http://austingrade.com/cnc/page25/page28/files/IMG_6189.html > > And from the files of "another of Fergus' clown cars", my favorite: > (early 60's Triumph Herald) > > http://austingrade.com/cnc/page25/page28/files/IMG_5998.html > > And enough Mini's to choke a .. (well, whatever you choke with Mini's): > http://carsandcoffee.info/forum/showthread.php?t=864 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Jun 30 13:07:20 2008 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:07:20 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Bluebird on Craigslit MKE--someone forward please Message-ID: <063020081907.10955.48692EE8000670B200002ACB2206998499CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Too old for the Bluebirds list, but I'll forward it as OT and to the EarlyDatsunClub list. Firewall is majorly butchered to shovel in the V8. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Pete "shaking his head" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Tim > Someone forward this to the Bluebird's list please. > > http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/car/735802618.html > > Thanks > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Jun 30 13:16:50 2008 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:16:50 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Son will be in New Zealand and Australia for 3 weeks Message-ID: <063020081916.20846.48693122000528A50000516E2200745672CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> My first time to Oz was in July '74. My ship came down from Guam (90-degrees F and humidity) to Sydney (40-50 degrees and chilly rain). Froze our butts off going to Luna Park, etc. Spent lots of quality pub time, mainly in Kings Cross (yeah, yeah, but it appears they've cleaned it up since then ). Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Graeme" > Yes, we are in the winter season as we speech. > However, apart from the Australian Alps, which have larger ski fields in > winter than Switzerland, our winters are reasonably mild. > I don't believe any city here uses salt on the roads, our climate is no > where near being that severe. > So, winter, yes, but not like you experience in some parts of the US. > I still hate the cold weather though!!!!! > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Jun 30 13:18:43 2008 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:18:43 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Off Topic - 510 People - Just Purchased My First One Message-ID: <063020081918.4095.486931930009416F00000FFF2205889116CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Yep. Routine topic on the Bluebirds list. Yearly cleaning with coat hanger, etc. is highly recommended. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Graeme" > "510 People > I am looking for some answers to water leaks in firewall area. Solutions? > Larry." > > Hi Larry, > You need to be a little more specific as to where the leak is, into the > cabin or what. > However the 510 has a cowl drain from the plenum beneath the windshield that > is a notorious trouble spot. > It is an area where the firewall and trans. Tunnel almost co-incide but they > "should" have a gap between them to drain the water onto the trans. Bell > housing. > The "drain" is easily closed over if bumped with an engine during > instal/removal and is also easily clogged with debris. > Check it out with a length of coathanger. > Even if it is cleared the metal may have already rotted out creating a cabin > leak. > Two pics of where and what it is and a link for the List. > http://tinyurl.com/4r4vus > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 510 > body 2.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 510 > body 3.jpg] > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From 9laser3 at bright.net Mon Jun 30 15:27:11 2008 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:27:11 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Bluebird on Craigslit MKE--someone forward please In-Reply-To: <20080630145519.DOWKM.606671.root@fepweb05> References: <20080630145519.DOWKM.606671.root@fepweb05> Message-ID: <000f01c8daf8$10a0d720$31e28560$@net> Ask and you shall receive. Link below to a 510 in Wisconsin. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters- Someone forward this to the Bluebird's list please. http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/car/735802618.html Thanks Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning