From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  1 15:43:47 2008
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 14:43:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] caveat emptor
Message-ID: <206233.4222.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

hi everyone
so i was looking forward to running the wheels and tires i won on eBay on my next track weekend in the roadster.  they're R3S03s on 15 x 7 "Prime" rims.  i was especially pleased that i was getting all 4 rims and tires for about $300 delivered.  i really really need softer tires for track work.  anywho, when the auction ended, the seller, andy, reneged on the deal.  he changed his mind and tried to get me to take some 14 inch rims, with no tires, for $400 instead.  his eBay seller name is "gofastauction."
i left negative feedback saying just that.  not much else to do, 'cept to warn y'all.  be careful if you deal with this guy.
steve
675MIZU

From andycost at embarqmail.com  Tue Jul  1 16:15:47 2008
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Embarq Customer)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 18:15:47 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] caveat emptor
In-Reply-To: <206233.4222.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1429799822.4729501214950547078.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>

You should lodge a complaint on EBAY.  I have had several dead beat bidders and sellers removed from EBAY.



----- Original Message -----
From: steven boortz <vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com>
To: roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 17:43:47 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] caveat emptor

hi everyone
so i was looking forward to running the wheels and tires i won on eBay on my next track weekend in the roadster.  they're R3S03s on 15 x 7 "Prime" rims.  i was especially pleased that i was getting all 4 rims and tires for about $300 delivered.  i really really need softer tires for track work.  anywho, when the auction ended, the seller, andy, reneged on the deal.  he changed his mind and tried to get me to take some 14 inch rims, with no tires, for $400 instead.  his eBay seller name is "gofastauction."
i left negative feedback saying just that.  not much else to do, 'cept to warn y'all.  be careful if you deal with this guy.
steve
675MIZU

From fergus06 at socal.rr.com  Tue Jul  1 18:26:18 2008
From: fergus06 at socal.rr.com (Fergus OFarrell)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 17:26:18 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Socal Fun Run pics, Vasquez Rocks
Message-ID: <002c01c8dbda$3f9211b0$e5bb1e18@fergus031a2176>

not sure if this got posted, as I am on the digest version, which is a bit
quirky (hey, just like me!)
but these are the pics of the Socal fun run to Vasquez Rocks, which "starred"
in many a Lone Ranger episode.
from Chris Breyer:
http://good-times.webshots.com/slideshow/563949905ehnIpH

and from Tony Stockler:
http://good-times.webshots.com/slideshow/563950553OiEkFV

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Tue Jul  1 19:09:36 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:09:36 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut?
Message-ID: <E1KDqqn-0001Y6-Gr@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

You know the one. That nut behind the rear header tube, under the back
Solex. It's too far to reach from the front, snaking your arm under the
carbs. The starter is in the way to do it from below. I can't quite reach
from under the inner fender and above the frame with the car jacked up and
the front tire off. 

 

My only thought is to pull the carb(s) off the intake manifold, tighten the
nuts, and re-assemble the carb(s) onto the manifold. (I don't want to do
this if I can help it).

 

The car is running INSANELY well, except for the cloud of steam coming out
of the car when I punch it. Coolant is leaking from the water passage which
goes from the head into the intake manifold, at the gasket. It sprays down
onto (and into) the header and makes a LOT of steam.

 

New head gasket, new valve seats, new valve seals, new timing chains,
beautiful (if I do say so myself) yellow alternator and valve cover, new
gaskets all over the place, new heater hoses, and new fuel hoses. 

 

I'll put up some of the pix AFTER she's done. I've taken pictures throughout
the process.

 

Dean. YOU ROCK!!!!!

 

Hey, I got to buy $700 worth of new Craftsman tools too! :-)

 

Matt (bloody knuckle) Smith, in TN

And Loreli (She's a STEAMY hot 70 SRL Solex)

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Tue Jul  1 19:12:34 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:12:34 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Probodies fiberglass parts?
In-Reply-To: <003901c8d8a6$1be01460$53a03d20$@net>
Message-ID: <E1KDqtf-0005Ir-KM@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

They REALLY need pix of the parts for roadsters. I'm thinking flares!
WooHoo!

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From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 6:36 PM
To: 'datsun-roadsters'
Subject: [Roadsters] Probodies fiberglass parts?

  Has anybody bought any roadster pieces from these folks?

 

http://www.prodbodies.com/datsun.html

 

Paul

Ohio
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From mikef at carolina.rr.com  Tue Jul  1 19:19:00 2008
From: mikef at carolina.rr.com (Mike Faggart)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:19:00 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut?
References: <E1KDqqn-0001Y6-Gr@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <005e01c8dbe1$9b91d750$0200a8c0@reginacb41e884>

isn't this where that funny curved wrench comes into play?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matthew A. Smith" <matthews517 at earthlink.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:09 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut?


> You know the one. That nut behind the rear header tube, under the back
> Solex. It's too far to reach from the front, snaking your arm under the
> carbs. The starter is in the way to do it from below. I can't quite reach
> from under the inner fender and above the frame with the car jacked up and
> the front tire off.
>
>
>
> My only thought is to pull the carb(s) off the intake manifold, tighten 
> the
> nuts, and re-assemble the carb(s) onto the manifold. (I don't want to do
> this if I can help it).
>
>
>
> The car is running INSANELY well, except for the cloud of steam coming out
> of the car when I punch it. Coolant is leaking from the water passage 
> which
> goes from the head into the intake manifold, at the gasket. It sprays down
> onto (and into) the header and makes a LOT of steam.
>
>
>
> New head gasket, new valve seats, new valve seals, new timing chains,
> beautiful (if I do say so myself) yellow alternator and valve cover, new
> gaskets all over the place, new heater hoses, and new fuel hoses.
>
>
>
> I'll put up some of the pix AFTER she's done. I've taken pictures 
> throughout
> the process.
>
>
>
> Dean. YOU ROCK!!!!!
>
>
>
> Hey, I got to buy $700 worth of new Craftsman tools too! :-)
>
>
>
> Matt (bloody knuckle) Smith, in TN
>
> And Loreli (She's a STEAMY hot 70 SRL Solex)
> ________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
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From aultgc at att.net  Tue Jul  1 19:18:46 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 18:18:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Socal Fun Run pics, Vasquez Rocks
Message-ID: <318472.89536.qm@web83808.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Fergus,
Great pictures!  Enjoyed them a lot.  Thanks.
Gary
(Looking forward to
more Margaritas at Solvang next year.)


----- Original Message ----
From:
Fergus OFarrell <fergus06 at socal.rr.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2008 7:26:18 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Socal Fun Run
pics, Vasquez Rocks

not sure if this got posted, as I am on the digest
version, which is a bit
quirky (hey, just like me!)
but these are the pics of
the Socal fun run to Vasquez Rocks, which "starred"
in many a Lone Ranger
episode.
from Chris Breyer:
http://good-times.webshots.com/slideshow/563949905ehnIpH

and from Tony
Stockler:
http://good-times.webshots.com/slideshow/563950553OiEkFV
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Tue Jul  1 19:25:24 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 18:25:24 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut?
In-Reply-To: <E1KDqqn-0001Y6-Gr@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1KDqqn-0001Y6-Gr@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <006a01c8dbe2$80eaea30$82c0be90$@net>

I usually use a yoga position called "embracing the carbs" for this. You're
right, you can't really do it with either hand, BUT...

If you lean over the engine from the carb side, run one hand behind the
header tubes from the front of the engine and the other hand behind the
header tubes from the back of the engine, you can pass an open-end wrench
back and forth with your fingertips. 

I can't always get enough of a rotation on the nut to be able to pass it
straight back and forth. Sometimes it requires reversing the wrench when
passing it between hands.

If you were clever enough to use the factory nuts that take the smaller 12mm
wrench rather than the hardware store non-automotive nuts that take a 13mm
wrench, you will be much happier.

Kiss the cam cover while you're there - your engine will appreciate the
gesture.

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 6:10 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut?

You know the one. That nut behind the rear header tube, under the back
Solex. It's too far to reach from the front, snaking your arm under the
carbs. The starter is in the way to do it from below. I can't quite reach
from under the inner fender and above the frame with the car jacked up and
the front tire off. 

 

My only thought is to pull the carb(s) off the intake manifold, tighten the
nuts, and re-assemble the carb(s) onto the manifold. (I don't want to do
this if I can help it).

 

The car is running INSANELY well, except for the cloud of steam coming out
of the car when I punch it. Coolant is leaking from the water passage which
goes from the head into the intake manifold, at the gasket. It sprays down
onto (and into) the header and makes a LOT of steam.

 

New head gasket, new valve seats, new valve seals, new timing chains,
beautiful (if I do say so myself) yellow alternator and valve cover, new
gaskets all over the place, new heater hoses, and new fuel hoses. 

 

I'll put up some of the pix AFTER she's done. I've taken pictures throughout
the process.

 

Dean. YOU ROCK!!!!!

 

Hey, I got to buy $700 worth of new Craftsman tools too! :-)

 

Matt (bloody knuckle) Smith, in TN

And Loreli (She's a STEAMY hot 70 SRL Solex)
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Tue Jul  1 19:26:38 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 18:26:38 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Probodies fiberglass parts?
In-Reply-To: <E1KDqtf-0005Ir-KM@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <003901c8d8a6$1be01460$53a03d20$@net>
	<E1KDqtf-0005Ir-KM@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <006b01c8dbe2$acdb6390$06922ab0$@net>

http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Images/Vest2.jpg

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 6:13 PM
To: 'Paul'; 'datsun-roadsters'
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Probodies fiberglass parts?

They REALLY need pix of the parts for roadsters. I'm thinking flares!
WooHoo!

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 6:36 PM
To: 'datsun-roadsters'
Subject: [Roadsters] Probodies fiberglass parts?

  Has anybody bought any roadster pieces from these folks?

 

http://www.prodbodies.com/datsun.html

 

Paul

Ohio
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From aultgc at att.net  Tue Jul  1 19:39:03 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 18:39:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut?
Message-ID: <391260.68293.qm@web83817.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

With my SUs and a header on a U20, my problem is getting to the left (forward)
nut on the #4 cylinder exhaust tube.  I can't get a box-end wrench, nor an
open-end wrench, on the %%$#@$^&* thing with enough purchase to get it off
once is been on for a few years to save my life.  Curved wrenches
notwithstanding.  Having the carbs off is essential.
Gary


----- Original
Message ----
From: Mike Faggart <mikef at carolina.rr.com>
To: Matthew A. Smith
<matthews517 at earthlink.net>; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tuesday,
July 1, 2008 8:19:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut?
isn't this where that funny curved wrench comes into play?


----- Original
Message ----- 
From: "Matthew A. Smith" <matthews517 at earthlink.net>
To:
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:09 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut?


> You know the one. That
nut behind the rear header tube, under the back
> Solex. It's too far to reach
from the front, snaking your arm under the
> carbs. The starter is in the way
to do it from below. I can't quite reach
> from under the inner fender and
above the frame with the car jacked up and
> the front tire off.
>
>
>
> My
only thought is to pull the carb(s) off the intake manifold, tighten 
> the
>
nuts, and re-assemble the carb(s) onto the manifold. (I don't want to do
>
this if I can help it).
>
>
>
> The car is running INSANELY well, except for
the cloud of steam coming out
> of the car when I punch it. Coolant is leaking
from the water passage 
> which
> goes from the head into the intake manifold,
at the gasket. It sprays down
> onto (and into) the header and makes a LOT of
steam.
>
>
>
> New head gasket, new valve seats, new valve seals, new timing
chains,
> beautiful (if I do say so myself) yellow alternator and valve cover,
new
> gaskets all over the place, new heater hoses, and new fuel hoses.
>
>
>
> I'll put up some of the pix AFTER she's done. I've taken pictures 
>
throughout
> the process.
>
>
>
> Dean. YOU ROCK!!!!!
>
>
>
> Hey, I got to
buy $700 worth of new Craftsman tools too! :-)
>
>
>
> Matt (bloody knuckle)
Smith, in TN
>
> And Loreli (She's a STEAMY hot 70 SRL Solex)
>
________________________________________
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mikef at carolina.rr.com
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From andycost at embarqmail.com  Tue Jul  1 20:20:01 2008
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:20:01 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut?
In-Reply-To: <391260.68293.qm@web83817.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <JBEKJICFFOFCBHHGLNFDKEDJDEAA.andycost@embarqmail.com>

That is the nut where I got stuck once.  I thought I was going to have to
gnaw my arm off like a raccoon in a trap.  My cell phone was just far enough
away that I couldn't reach it or I would have called inside the house to get
my wife to come help.  I worked it loose with minimal loss of flesh.

Andy

From aultgc at att.net  Tue Jul  1 20:45:36 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:45:36 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Grants Products
Message-ID: <003801c8dbed$b4f3fc80$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

To those on the list:

I don't know to what extent you all may have an opportunity to deal with Grant
Products -- the steering wheel people, among other things -- but I will tell
you, if you have an opportunity, do so.  They're great people.

I have two old, out-of-prodution steering wheel adapters for early datsun
roadsters.  The contact plates which allow the horn pin on a standard roadster
steering column to operate were no longer serviceable.  One plate had come
loose from the hub, and the other was worn, and no longer made good contact.
Grants refurbished both of these hubs for me, at a very reasonable price.
Most companies would have simply blown me off.  After all, with my roadsters,
I am not likely to be a customer for their current offerings of custom
steering wheels.  But they didn't.  The service I received was an example of
the best American companies have to offer.

So, if you have the opportunity, work with them in confidence.

Gary

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Tue Jul  1 20:47:38 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:47:38 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut?
In-Reply-To: <JBEKJICFFOFCBHHGLNFDKEDJDEAA.andycost@embarqmail.com>
References: <391260.68293.qm@web83817.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<JBEKJICFFOFCBHHGLNFDKEDJDEAA.andycost@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <008101c8dbed$fda96b90$f8fc42b0$@net>

Also known as a "monkey-trap" or in this case, a "grease-monkey-trap."

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Andy Cost
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 7:20 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut?

That is the nut where I got stuck once.  I thought I was going to have to
gnaw my arm off like a raccoon in a trap.  My cell phone was just far enough
away that I couldn't reach it or I would have called inside the house to get
my wife to come help.  I worked it loose with minimal loss of flesh.

Andy
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From bubwin at mts.net  Tue Jul  1 21:10:29 2008
From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 22:10:29 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut?
In-Reply-To: <E1KDqqn-0001Y6-Gr@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1KDqqn-0001Y6-Gr@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <5DA25BD3A1DF4DCDB58A37372B884B89@ownerPC>

A couple options for you are "S" wrenches or Half Moon Wrenches.

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/tools.asp?tool=hand&Group_ID=548&store=snapon-store

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/tools.asp?tool=hand&Group_ID=550&store=snapon-store

Bob Winslade
1966-1600 Missy
1967-1600 Bender

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matthew A. Smith" <matthews517 at earthlink.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 8:09 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut?


> You know the one. That nut behind the rear header tube, under the back
> Solex. It's too far to reach from the front, snaking your arm under the
> carbs. The starter is in the way to do it from below. I can't quite reach
> from under the inner fender and above the frame with the car jacked up and
> the front tire off.
>
>
>
> My only thought is to pull the carb(s) off the intake manifold, tighten 
> the
> nuts, and re-assemble the carb(s) onto the manifold. (I don't want to do
> this if I can help it).
>
>
>
> The car is running INSANELY well, except for the cloud of steam coming out
> of the car when I punch it. Coolant is leaking from the water passage 
> which
> goes from the head into the intake manifold, at the gasket. It sprays down
> onto (and into) the header and makes a LOT of steam.
>
>
>
> New head gasket, new valve seats, new valve seals, new timing chains,
> beautiful (if I do say so myself) yellow alternator and valve cover, new
> gaskets all over the place, new heater hoses, and new fuel hoses.
>
>
>
> I'll put up some of the pix AFTER she's done. I've taken pictures 
> throughout
> the process.
>
>
>
> Dean. YOU ROCK!!!!!
>
>
>
> Hey, I got to buy $700 worth of new Craftsman tools too! :-)
>
>
>
> Matt (bloody knuckle) Smith, in TN
>
> And Loreli (She's a STEAMY hot 70 SRL Solex)
> ________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
> You are subscribed as bubwin at mts.net
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From andycost at embarqmail.com  Tue Jul  1 22:25:29 2008
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 23:25:29 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Probodies fiberglass parts?
In-Reply-To: <E1KDqtf-0005Ir-KM@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <JBEKJICFFOFCBHHGLNFDMEDKDEAA.andycost@embarqmail.com>

There are about a million photos of my car with Japco glass on my webshots
page.  Word to the wise, it isn't streetable.  It isn't high quality
appearance wise either.  There were tons of blemishes in my fenders.  It is
also much too thin and requires modification to bolt on.  There are no
provisions for headlights or turn signals.  The rears require that you cut
most of the rear sheet metal off.  There are some photos of what it takes to
mount these fenders on my webshots album.
http://image66.webshots.com/666/3/48/78/2527348780065431685LJcCla_fs.jpg

Andy

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Wed Jul  2 04:29:51 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 06:29:51 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Probodies fiberglass parts?
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  SCCA E Production rules allow some really wide wheels and tires.  E Prod
flares are huge.  We had them on both race roadsters at Sloan Racing until
we made our own bucks and fenders.  We race in G Prod, or at least we have
been.  New rule changes are doing away with G Prod so I guess we'll be
moving to F Prod soon.

Paul
Ohio

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Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:27 PM
To: 'Matthew A. Smith'; 'Paul'; 'datsun-roadsters'
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Probodies fiberglass parts?

http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Images/Vest2.jpg

Gordon Glasgow

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Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 6:13 PM
To: 'Paul'; 'datsun-roadsters'
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Probodies fiberglass parts?

They REALLY need pix of the parts for roadsters. I'm thinking flares!
WooHoo!

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On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 6:36 PM
To: 'datsun-roadsters'
Subject: [Roadsters] Probodies fiberglass parts?

  Has anybody bought any roadster pieces from these folks?

 

http://www.prodbodies.com/datsun.html

 

Paul

Ohio
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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Wed Jul  2 04:33:41 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 06:33:41 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut?
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  Craftsman makes an open end wrench with an odd cut in one edge that allows
you to rock it back and forth; almost like a ratchet.  Combine that with
Cathy Ann's small hands and that middle bolt comes off a lot easier.  But
then on the race cars we have the manifolds off a few times a year instead
of once every 20 years.  That and lots of JB Blaster!

Paul
Sloan Racing
Ohio

From tputland at charter.net  Wed Jul  2 05:15:35 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 4:15:35 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut? You don't with big
 hand I guess!
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I am guessing that my big hands (my wedding ring is a size 17 and the standard ring sizer only goes up to size 13!) I am never going to be able to do this bit myself if I get up the gumption to try it alone. 

Good thing my wife is a good sport, very mechanical, and would most likely try it for me. Her hands were small enough and the only way we could get the drain valve open under my compressor last week. The space under the compressor was so small I could barely get one finger tip on the nut of the valve. Can you say "time to modify the drain valve"?

Often lamenting big hands in Wisconsin,

Tim


---- Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote: 

=============
  Craftsman makes an open end wrench with an odd cut in one edge that allows
you to rock it back and forth; almost like a ratchet.  Combine that with
Cathy Ann's small hands and that middle bolt comes off a lot easier.  But
then on the race cars we have the manifolds off a few times a year instead
of once every 20 years.  That and lots of JB Blaster!

Paul
Sloan Racing
Ohio
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From graemes at internode.on.net  Wed Jul  2 05:52:34 2008
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:22:34 +0930
Subject: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut? You don't with big
 hand I guess!
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  The space under the compressor was so small I could barely get one finger
tip on the nut of the valve. Can you say "time to modify the drain valve"?

I've got the same problem although my hands are not huge.
Try sitting the compressor on a couple of house bricks to get more space
around the drain valve.
I've got one under each wheel and a slightly narrower one under the foot so
the tank slopes towards the valve ; )

From tputland at charter.net  Wed Jul  2 06:04:06 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 8:04:06 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Compressor mounting--was that hard to get to nut
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The problem with raising the compressor is that mine needs to be bolted to the floor as it is a 60 gallon tank and is a 240 volt hard wired unit. The bolts I used are long enough that I can raise it up about an inch and a half and then install a different drain valve that is easier to use. I may even put install a pipe coming out of the drain hole and run it out of the bottom of the base so I can get to it even easier.

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- Graeme <graemes at internode.on.net> wrote: 

=============
  The space under the compressor was so small I could barely get one finger
tip on the nut of the valve. Can you say "time to modify the drain valve"?

I've got the same problem although my hands are not huge.
Try sitting the compressor on a couple of house bricks to get more space
around the drain valve.
I've got one under each wheel and a slightly narrower one under the foot so
the tank slopes towards the valve ; )
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From Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com  Wed Jul  2 06:41:10 2008
From: Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com (Pat)
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 07:41:10 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Compressor mounting--was that hard to get to  nut
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I also have a 60 gallon compressor, bolted to the floor. I added an 
electrically operated valve to the drain line and plumbed it outside. I 
planned on putting a timer on it that would allow the water to be 
drained each night, but haven't gotten that far yet. I just have a push 
button on the wall for now that I hit each time I think about it. Sure 
beats getting down on the floor to clear the tank!

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Tim:
> The problem with raising the compressor is that mine needs to be bolted to the floor as it is a 60 gallon tank and is a 240 volt hard wired unit. The bolts I used are long enough that I can raise it up about an inch and a half and then install a different drain valve that is easier to use. I may even put install a pipe coming out of the drain hole and run it out of the bottom of the base so I can get to it even easier.
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
>
> ---- Graeme <graemes at internode.on.net> wrote: 
>
> =============
>   The space under the compressor was so small I could barely get one finger
> tip on the nut of the valve. Can you say "time to modify the drain valve"?
>
> I've got the same problem although my hands are not huge.
> Try sitting the compressor on a couple of house bricks to get more space
> around the drain valve.
> I've got one under each wheel and a slightly narrower one under the foot so
> the tank slopes towards the valve ; )
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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Wed Jul  2 07:29:35 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:29:35 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Compressor mounting--was that hard to get to   nut
Message-ID: <c46.361fd986.359cdcbf@aol.com>

At a garage sale a couple years ago I found an automatic valve to do that.  
It plumbs into the pressure relief port on the head and the drain. Every time  
the compressor starts or stops it goes POP and spits out water from the drain. 
I  never see water coming out but I've got a big rust stain where it spits. 
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 7/2/2008 5:41:48 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com writes:

I also  have a 60 gallon compressor, bolted to the floor. I added an 
electrically  operated valve to the drain line and plumbed it outside. I 
planned on  putting a timer on it that would allow the water to be 
drained each night,  but haven't gotten that far yet. I just have a push 
button on the wall for  now that I hit each time I think about it. Sure 
beats getting down on the  floor to clear the  tank!

Peace,
Pat





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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Wed Jul  2 07:44:47 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:44:47 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut?
Message-ID: <c4c.329e4172.359ce04f@aol.com>

The general drill for installing the carbs and intake is:
 
Install the manifold with out carbs and heat shield. This allows best  access 
to the various nuts.
 
Install the heat shield.
 
Install the carbs.
 
This seems like more work but getting to those bottom manifold nuts is such  
a pain with it all together. That and the annoying water and vacuum leaks from 
 the manifold nuts being tightened unevenly. 
 
I've received cores with the heat shield totally mangled from trying to  bend 
it out of the way to get to the bottom nuts. It only takes a minute to  
remove it. 
 
keith
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/1/2008 6:10:09 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
matthews517 at earthlink.net writes:

You know  the one. That nut behind the rear header tube, under the back
Solex. It's  too far to reach from the front, snaking your arm under the
carbs. The  starter is in the way to do it from below. I can't quite reach
from under  the inner fender and above the frame with the car jacked up and
the front  tire off. 



My only thought is to pull the carb(s) off the  intake manifold, tighten the
nuts, and re-assemble the carb(s) onto the  manifold. (I don't want to do
this if I can help it).



The  car is running INSANELY well, except for the cloud of steam coming out
of  the car when I punch it. Coolant is leaking from the water passage  which
goes from the head into the intake manifold, at the gasket. It sprays  down
onto (and into) the header and makes a LOT of  steam.



New head gasket, new valve seats, new valve seals, new  timing chains,
beautiful (if I do say so myself) yellow alternator and  valve cover, new
gaskets all over the place, new heater hoses, and new fuel  hoses. 



I'll put up some of the pix AFTER she's done. I've  taken pictures throughout
the process.



Dean. YOU  ROCK!!!!!



Hey, I got to buy $700 worth of new Craftsman tools  too! :-)



Matt (bloody knuckle) Smith, in TN

And Loreli  (She's a STEAMY hot 70 SRL  Solex)
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From Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com  Wed Jul  2 09:52:20 2008
From: Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com (Pat)
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:52:20 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Compressor mounting--was that hard to get to   nut
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Keith,

I've heard of these valves, but never seen one. I was told by a 
compressor repair fellow that they "were no good" because the air needs 
to cool in the tank before the water will condense out, but I figured 
that while that may be true, the next time the compressor runs it will 
get rid of that moisture, which is more often than most compressors get 
drained.

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Keith0alan at aol.com:
> At a garage sale a couple years ago I found an automatic valve to do 
> that. It plumbs into the pressure relief port on the head and the 
> drain. Every time the compressor starts or stops it goes POP and spits 
> out water from the drain. I never see water coming out but I've got a 
> big rust stain where it spits.
>  
> keith
>  
> In a message dated 7/2/2008 5:41:48 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
> Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com writes:
>
>     I also have a 60 gallon compressor, bolted to the floor. I added an
>     electrically operated valve to the drain line and plumbed it
>     outside. I
>     planned on putting a timer on it that would allow the water to be
>     drained each night, but haven't gotten that far yet. I just have a
>     push
>     button on the wall for now that I hit each time I think about it.
>     Sure
>     beats getting down on the floor to clear the tank!
>
>     Peace,
>     Pat
>
>
>
>
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From bubwin at mts.net  Wed Jul  2 15:13:47 2008
From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 16:13:47 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Compressor mounting--was that hard to get to  nut
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Automatic valves to drain compressor tanks work OK, but are made to open and 
drain when you drain all the air out and the pressure drops to zero.

I've used an air drain valve from an air brake system on a highway tractor. 
They are spring loaded lever action with a small length of wire rope on it 
so drivers don't have to climb under the truck to drain it.

Bob Winslade
1966-1600 Missy
1967-1600 Bender

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>
To: "Graeme" <graemes at internode.on.net>; <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:04 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Compressor mounting--was that hard to get to nut


> The problem with raising the compressor is that mine needs to be bolted to 
> the floor as it is a 60 gallon tank and is a 240 volt hard wired unit. The 
> bolts I used are long enough that I can raise it up about an inch and a 
> half and then install a different drain valve that is easier to use. I may 
> even put install a pipe coming out of the drain hole and run it out of the 
> bottom of the base so I can get to it even easier.
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
>
> ---- Graeme <graemes at internode.on.net> wrote:
>
> =============
>  The space under the compressor was so small I could barely get one finger
> tip on the nut of the valve. Can you say "time to modify the drain valve"?
>
> I've got the same problem although my hands are not huge.
> Try sitting the compressor on a couple of house bricks to get more space
> around the drain valve.
> I've got one under each wheel and a slightly narrower one under the foot 
> so
> the tank slopes towards the valve ; )
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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Wed Jul  2 20:05:03 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 22:05:03 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut?
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Message-ID: <002301c8dcb1$3c9b9350$6800a8c0@delled48909442>

Years ago, first Roadster, in my parent's driveway in Suburbia, I was
putting the manifold on, had both arms semi stuck under the manifold,
face sideways on the valve cover....Who walks up and starts talking to
me...Jehova's Witnesses.  Talk about your captive audience.

Dave Brisco



-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Cost [mailto:andycost at embarqmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:20 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut?

That is the nut where I got stuck once.  I thought I was going to have
to
gnaw my arm off like a raccoon in a trap.  My cell phone was just far
enough
away that I couldn't reach it or I would have called inside the house to
get
my wife to come help.  I worked it loose with minimal loss of flesh.

Andy

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Wed Jul  2 20:13:55 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 22:13:55 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Compressor mounting--was that hard to get to nut
In-Reply-To: <486BA434.1050905@HorneSystemsTx.com>
Message-ID: <002401c8dcb2$73284ed0$6800a8c0@delled48909442>

I'm surprised, I run the compressor for long periods sometimes, to the
point of hot air coming out at 90 PSI and fogging up the glass bead
cabinet, but I  hardly get any water out of the drain.  I'm surprised
the thing didn't blow up last blasting session, 90+ deg ouitside.  3HP,
120 volt motor, pushing the limit. At least it's a belt drive, so it's
quiet. Getting time for a big one.

Dave Brisco

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From: Pat [mailto:Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 11:52 AM
To: Keith0alan at aol.com
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compressor mounting--was that hard to get to
nut

Keith,

I've heard of these valves, but never seen one. I was told by a 
compressor repair fellow that they "were no good" because the air needs 
to cool in the tank before the water will condense out, but I figured 
that while that may be true, the next time the compressor runs it will 
get rid of that moisture, which is more often than most compressors get 
drained.

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Keith0alan at aol.com:
> At a garage sale a couple years ago I found an automatic valve to do 
> that. It plumbs into the pressure relief port on the head and the 
> drain. Every time the compressor starts or stops it goes POP and spits

> out water from the drain. I never see water coming out but I've got a 
> big rust stain where it spits.
>  
> keith
>  
> In a message dated 7/2/2008 5:41:48 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
> Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com writes:
>
>     I also have a 60 gallon compressor, bolted to the floor. I added
an
>     electrically operated valve to the drain line and plumbed it
>     outside. I
>     planned on putting a timer on it that would allow the water to be
>     drained each night, but haven't gotten that far yet. I just have a
>     push
>     button on the wall for now that I hit each time I think about it.
>     Sure
>     beats getting down on the floor to clear the tank!
>
>     Peace,
>     Pat
>
>
>
>
>
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From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul  2 21:01:15 2008
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 22:01:15 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] car for sale
References: <BAY129-DAV16442A96EAB4729ACD2A02D20F0@phx.gbl>
	<018001c88592$f88033d0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <006101c8dcb9$a88b96c0$e91f10ac@garage.local>

http://www.ranteer.com/misc/

i apologize; this is totally off topic but i thought someone might be 
interested

roadster content: if i get this car out of here i might get my 67 1600 up 
and going . . . 

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Wed Jul  2 21:26:13 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 23:26:13 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Compressor mounting--was that hard to get to   nut
Message-ID: <c91.26f79185.359da0d5@aol.com>

Mine is actually plumbed in to the big water trap rather than the tank. I  
get hardly any water in the tank but lots in the trap. Basically, if it's  
automatic and helps any at all it's a good thing. 
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 7/2/2008 8:59:48 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com writes:

Keith,

I've heard of these valves, but never seen one. I was  told by a 
compressor repair fellow that they "were no good" because the  air needs 
to cool in the tank before the water will condense out, but I  figured 
that while that may be true, the next time the compressor runs it  will 
get rid of that moisture, which is more often than most compressors  get 
drained.

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake  Keith0alan at aol.com:
> At a garage sale a couple years ago I found an  automatic valve to do 
> that. It plumbs into the pressure relief port  on the head and the 
> drain. Every time the compressor starts or stops  it goes POP and spits 
> out water from the drain. I never see water  coming out but I've got a 
> big rust stain where it  spits.
>  
> keith
>   





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From markmiller at threeboysfarm.com  Wed Jul  2 22:00:46 2008
From: markmiller at threeboysfarm.com (Mark Miller)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:00:46 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] What I learned tonight
Message-ID: <002101c8dcc1$7a7ed370$6500a8c0@OFFICEPC>

Tonight I learned that the wheels I put on my roadster about 7 years ago use
a different lug size (wrench side) than the stockers they replaced.  If you
always use the big lug nut wrench in the garage to take wheels on and off
you learn this on the side of the road with a flat tire.  

Yup.. Jacked up the car, grabbed the lug wrench from the trunk, and it
didn't fit.  Oops.

 

And the happy ending: called AAA and while waiting for the truck a friend
saw me and pulled over.  He had a 4 way lug wrench in the trunk.  5 minutes
and back on the road. And the car didn't even fall off the stock jack!

 

All in all a rather painless lesson.  Followed by a lovely ride home.  Wow,
I like that car.  Oh yeah, it's about to turn 200K km.  Maybe I'll wash it.
Naah.

 

 

Mark Miller

69 RHD Fairlady 2000, w. solexes in need of a new air filter.  

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu Jul  3 11:24:20 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:24:20 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Reconditioned 69 rear side markers on eBay
Message-ID: <070320081724.23936.486D0B43000E238D00005D802213575333CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

>From the Bluebirds list. I believe these are the same as for a 69 Roadster. Can someone confirm?

Seller is reliable:

Pete

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Steve Boatman <nismo at charter.net

Reconditioned 68-69 Markers
eBay Item Number: 260258187008

I put the set of side markers that I spent a weekend cleaning up & reconditioning up on eBay! Pass it along to somebody that can use them please!

I spent a LOT of time cleaning these things up, and brought them back to looking great. The lenses were plastic-polished to remove oxidation and scratches. That was the hard part. Everything else on the inside, I cleaned up as best as possible. All the contacts were cleaned & polished, as well as the terminals going into the harness. Grounds are in great shape. Even went and bought some new bulbs so the next owner won't have to.

The chrome is in great shape, but the chrome on the interior-side of the housings are pitted in spots. Nothing serious, obviously they can't rust. The rubbers are in great shape, and don't have any oxidation. They are used, but they would look great if anybody would like to replace their cruddy looking ones.

I need the money to put into the dime more than I need the parts I can't use!

If you guys would like some more pictures, let me know and I'll get them to you ASAP. Any questions? You've got my email.

Thanks

Steve Boatman
Grants Pass, Oregon
71 Datsun 510 2-door \\\ L20b \\ 5-speed
nismo at charter.net

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Thu Jul  3 11:44:39 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 13:44:39 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT; Princton, NJ
Message-ID: <001701c8dd34$7ff4b2c0$7fde1840$@net>

  Anybody near Princeton, NJ that would have time to look at a car (not a
Datsun) for me?  Just a walk around and a quick test drive before I find my
way there and try to drive it back to Ohio.

 

TIA,

 

Paul

From kdrapidprint at psnw.com  Thu Jul  3 17:45:56 2008
From: kdrapidprint at psnw.com (kdrapidprint at psnw.com)
Date: Thu,  3 Jul 2008 16:45:56 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] SPL 310 for sale
Message-ID: <1215128756.486d64b418bce@webmail2.psnw.com>

Anybody out there interestered in a 61 310.

Looks like the car is complete except for air filter and headlight rings.

serial # is 000004

contact me if interested and I will send picures

I can't  show picture so contact me

Kerry Dehmel
Fresno, CA

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu Jul  3 17:55:46 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:55:46 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] SPL 310 for sale
Message-ID: <070320082355.13186.486D670200078B7C000033822200745672CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Wouldn't a '61 be a SP212 or SP213? What's the VIN plate say?

Pete "in laws=no wrenching"

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: kdrapidprint at psnw.com
> Anybody out there interested in a 61 310.
> 
> Looks like the car is complete except for air filter and headlight rings.
> 
> serial # is 000004
> 
> contact me if interested and I will send pictures
> 
> I can't  show picture so contact me
> 
> Kerry Dehmel
> Fresno, CA
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From BARTERDUDE at aol.com  Thu Jul  3 18:59:49 2008
From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:59:49 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] SPL 310 for sale
Message-ID: <cfb.37d45077.359ed005@aol.com>

NIssan kept back the first 74 serial numbers and these were produced in  
1964.  The First roadster was 75 and the first 300 where single carbs and  
produced in 1963.  Some were not sold and retrofited with dual carbs and  stamped as 
64 but they were produced in 1963.
 
 
Gary Lasater  - Parker CO
founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 
1963 SPL310-00161C (Single  Carb)
1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb)
1964 SPL310-01289
1968  SRL311-11977
1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70)
1970 SPL311-28169 
.
 
 
In a message dated 7/3/2008 5:46:43 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
kdrapidprint at psnw.com writes:

Anybody  out there interestered in a 61 310.

Looks like the car is complete  except for air filter and headlight rings.

serial # is  000004

contact me if interested and I will send picures

I  can't  show picture so contact me

Kerry Dehmel
Fresno,  CA
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From aultgc at att.net  Thu Jul  3 21:28:29 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:28:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] SPL 310 for sale
Message-ID: <262333.39247.qm@web83824.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I'm a little suspicious about the "I can't show picture" business.

-----
Original Message ----
From: "BARTERDUDE at aol.com" <BARTERDUDE at aol.com>
To:
kdrapidprint at psnw.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday, July 3,
2008 7:59:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SPL 310 for sale

NIssan kept back
the first 74 serial numbers and these were produced in  
1964.  The First
roadster was 75 and the first 300 where single carbs and  
produced in 1963. 
Some were not sold and retrofited with dual carbs and  stamped as 
64 but they
were produced in 1963.


Gary Lasater  - Parker CO
founding member
_www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 
1963 SPL310-00161C (Single  Carb)
1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb)
1964 SPL310-01289
1968  SRL311-11977
1969
SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70)
1970 SPL311-28169 
.


In a message dated
7/3/2008 5:46:43 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
kdrapidprint at psnw.com writes:
Anybody  out there interestered in a 61 310.

Looks like the car is complete 
except for air filter and headlight rings.

serial # is  000004

contact me if
interested and I will send picures

I  can't  show picture so contact me
Kerry Dehmel
Fresno,  CA
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From egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us  Thu Jul  3 23:08:04 2008
From: egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us (Eric Gillis)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 22:08:04 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] SPL 310 for sale
References: <262333.39247.qm@web83824.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <65AA4A74232FF24E9BEC8D1163859B18044523E7@cusdmx01.cusd.ceres.k12.ca.us>

Please be careful about what is said when an offer like this is made.

Kerry is very reputable, he, his family and the whole Fresno Group has been
kind enough to put together the Solvang Roadster Show for many, many years
(Thanks Jeff T for taking over!).  He is a great guy to work with.  Just
because some of us lurk, doesn't mean we are shady. No harm, no foul, but
let's not find our beloved roadster list 'offline' a la 311s.org due to
flaming.

Besides, no one can 'show pictures' on this list serv.  They must be seen off
this list, as Kerry stated in his first posting.  Good luck with the sale,
Kerry.  I have an exploded R16 in my garage, so space is at a premium right
now, but what a great project!

Eric G


________________________________

From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+egillis=ceres.k12.ca.us at autox.team.net on
behalf of Gary and Cindy Ault
Sent: Thu 7/3/2008 8:28 PM
To: BARTERDUDE at aol.com; kdrapidprint at psnw.com;
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SPL 310 for sale



I'm a little suspicious about the "I can't show picture" business.

-----
Original Message ----
From: "BARTERDUDE at aol.com" <BARTERDUDE at aol.com>
To:
kdrapidprint at psnw.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday, July 3,
2008 7:59:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SPL 310 for sale

NIssan kept back
the first 74 serial numbers and these were produced in
1964.  The First
roadster was 75 and the first 300 where single carbs and
produced in 1963.
Some were not sold and retrofited with dual carbs and  stamped as
64 but they
were produced in 1963.


Gary Lasater  - Parker CO
founding member
_www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/)
1963 SPL310-00161C (Single  Carb)
1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb)
1964 SPL310-01289
1968  SRL311-11977
1969
SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70)
1970 SPL311-28169
.


In a message dated
7/3/2008 5:46:43 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
kdrapidprint at psnw.com writes:
Anybody  out there interestered in a 61 310.

Looks like the car is complete
except for air filter and headlight rings.

serial # is  000004

contact me if
interested and I will send picures

I  can't  show picture so contact me
Kerry Dehmel
Fresno,  CA
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From tputland at charter.net  Fri Jul  4 07:03:53 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 6:03:53 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: laptops--sorry for the OT
Message-ID: <20080704090353.0T3SR.699683.root@fepweb03>

Hi all. Please keep replies to this inquiry off list! If any one is interested in the input I get, let me know and I will forward them on to whomever.

We will be buying a laptop this summer for my oldest to use when she goes to university this fall. I am seeking input, comments, (but no flaming please) etc from different people. We are asking neighbors, coworkers, etc. I figure this list is another great source of information. 

I have had dell, HP and gateway desk tops so I have my own opinions of these company's' DESKTOPS and am wondering who out there has experience with laptops. Pros, cons, etc. I am looking to not spend over $1000. 

We cannot buy a MAC as the school she is attending recommends not to so there are no compatibility issues. 

AGAIN: Please keep replies to this inquiry off list! If any one is interested in the input I get, let me know and I will forward them on to whomever.

Time to go do the brakes on my truck. 

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From rlabate at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jul  4 11:47:27 2008
From: rlabate at sbcglobal.net (Ritchie Labate)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:47:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Starter gone or going?
Message-ID: <743105.7020.qm@web81206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi folks,
Wondering if my starter is on the way out...symptoms: when I turn
the key, 3 things can happen... 1. absolutely nothing, 2. a click and/or
whirling sound without turning the engine or 3. the car starts no problem. If
it is out, I'm thinking forklift replacement Nissan 23300-K9160(Mitsubishi
M1T60081 or M1T60381). Any thoughts?
Thanks!
Ritchie Labate
'68 2000

From rlabate at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jul  4 11:58:23 2008
From: rlabate at sbcglobal.net (Ritchie Labate)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:58:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Mystery wires by headlights
Message-ID: <601577.37422.qm@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have a '68 2000 with color wiring diagram available. I'm trying to determine a pair a wires under the hood located by the left and right headlights coming out of the harness with the others. I have identified 2 other pairs not attached to anything as the foglights which I do not have (red/green stripe and black). The ones I need help with are green/white stripe and black. My headlights and turn signals are connected and fine. These pairs are not attached to anything. The only other symptom elsewhere is that my horn doesnt work but I'm thinking its under the Grant steering wheel as the problem. Maybe not?? If I connect a jumper from + battery directly to the horn, it works.
If someone has a chance to peek under their hood and see if they have these wires connected to anything, that would be awesome!!
Happy 4th!!!!
Ritchie
'68 2000

From Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com  Fri Jul  4 12:01:49 2008
From: Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com (Pat)
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:01:49 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Starter gone or going?
In-Reply-To: <743105.7020.qm@web81206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <743105.7020.qm@web81206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <486E658D.20803@HorneSystemsTx.com>

Ritchie,

Sounds like you may have either a sticking bendix or starter solenoid, 
probably both. You can remove the solenoid with the starter in the car, 
but it isn't easy. I'd drop the starter out and take the solenoid off 
and check for gummed up grease. Same on the bendix. Both of these can be 
done without opening up the starter itself. Re-lube sparingly with 
thick, high temperature grease. Not much is needed. You can take the 
starter to an auto parts house for testing afterward.

While the starter is out take a look at the teeth on the flywheel. Our 
engines usually come to a stop in one of 2 positions, so the ring gear 
gets worn more in these locations than the rest of the way around. If it 
is really worn you may need a new ring gear. An old trick it to press 
the ring gear off and turn it around so that the unworn side of the gear 
now engages the starter. Also, you can move the ring gear 90 degrees so 
that good teeth are in the location where worn teeth were. All of these 
require removing the flywheel. Ring gears used to be available at a 
decent price, but I haven't bought one in years.

Peace,
Pat


Thusly spake Ritchie Labate:
> Hi folks,
> Wondering if my starter is on the way out...symptoms: when I turn
> the key, 3 things can happen... 1. absolutely nothing, 2. a click and/or
> whirling sound without turning the engine or 3. the car starts no problem. If
> it is out, I'm thinking forklift replacement Nissan 23300-K9160(Mitsubishi
> M1T60081 or M1T60381). Any thoughts?
> Thanks!
> Ritchie Labate
> '68 2000
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From RWM at RWMann.com  Fri Jul  4 12:01:48 2008
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM (Out of the Office))
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:01:48 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Starter gone or going?
In-Reply-To: <743105.7020.qm@web81206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <743105.7020.qm@web81206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <486E658C.5090400@RWMann.com>

Ritchie,

Sounds like the starter relay and/or solenoid are going bad.

The forklift starter is a good idea,  as would be a gear-reduction starter.

- Bob Mann
  '68 2000 Solex



Ritchie Labate wrote:

>Hi folks,
>Wondering if my starter is on the way out...symptoms: when I turn
>the key, 3 things can happen... 1. absolutely nothing, 2. a click and/or
>whirling sound without turning the engine or 3. the car starts no problem. If
>it is out, I'm thinking forklift replacement Nissan 23300-K9160(Mitsubishi
>M1T60081 or M1T60381). Any thoughts?
>Thanks!
>Ritchie Labate
>'68 2000

From Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com  Fri Jul  4 12:04:10 2008
From: Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com (Pat)
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:04:10 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Mystery wires by headlights
In-Reply-To: <601577.37422.qm@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <601577.37422.qm@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <486E661A.20200@HorneSystemsTx.com>

Could they be for the side marker light? See if there is another pair on 
the other front corner. I have a 67.5, so it wouldn't do to look at mine.

Peace,
Pat


Thusly spake Ritchie Labate:
> I have a '68 2000 with color wiring diagram available. I'm trying to determine a pair a wires under the hood located by the left and right headlights coming out of the harness with the others. I have identified 2 other pairs not attached to anything as the foglights which I do not have (red/green stripe and black). The ones I need help with are green/white stripe and black. My headlights and turn signals are connected and fine. These pairs are not attached to anything. The only other symptom elsewhere is that my horn doesnt work but I'm thinking its under the Grant steering wheel as the problem. Maybe not?? If I connect a jumper from + battery directly to the horn, it works.
> If someone has a chance to peek under their hood and see if they have these wires connected to anything, that would be awesome!!
> Happy 4th!!!!
> Ritchie
> '68 2000
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Jul  4 13:12:06 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 12:12:06 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Flywheel ring gear (was "RE: Starter gone or going?")
In-Reply-To: <486E658D.20803@HorneSystemsTx.com>
Message-ID: <1B5EB066F7724588A3F91AAEAF0C6CEA@xp>

Recently discussed on 311s.org. Still available from Nissan and Rockauto.com
(Beck/Arnley part).

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Pat
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 11:02 AM
To: Ritchie Labate
Cc: Datsun Roadster blog
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter gone or going?


[snip]
While the starter is out take a look at the teeth on the flywheel.

Ring gears used to be available at a decent price, but I haven't bought one
in years.

Peace,
Pat

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Jul  4 13:23:52 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 12:23:52 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Mystery wires by headlights
In-Reply-To: <486E661A.20200@HorneSystemsTx.com>
Message-ID: <FBE4D11FFAB94495892EE11A958029D3@xp>

I think Pat is correct. Black is generally a ground, and the green/white
stripe generally is the power for various lighting sources on many 60's and
70's Datsuns.

Horn is a completely separate circuit. Yes, you do have green/white stripe
and black wires to the horn relay, then solid green from the relay to the
horns, but there isn't a pair of them near both headlights.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Pat
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 11:04 AM
To: Ritchie Labate
Cc: Datsun Roadster blog
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Mystery wires by headlights


Could they be for the side marker light? See if there is another pair on the
other front corner. I have a 67.5, so it wouldn't do to look at mine.

Peace,
Pat


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Ritchie Labate
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 10:58 AM
To: Datsun Roadster blog
Subject: [Roadsters] Mystery wires by headlights


I have a '68 2000 with color wiring diagram available. I'm trying to
determine a pair a wires under the hood located by the left and right
headlights coming out of the harness with the others. I have identified 2
other pairs not attached to anything as the foglights which I do not have
(red/green stripe and black).

The ones I need help with are green/white stripe and black. My headlights
and turn signals are connected and fine. These pairs are not attached to
anything.

The only other symptom elsewhere is that my horn doesnt work but I'm
thinking its under the Grant steering wheel as the problem. Maybe not?? If I
connect a jumper from + battery directly to the horn, it works.

If someone has a chance to peek under their hood and see if they have these
wires connected to anything, that would be awesome!!

Happy 4th!!!!

Ritchie
'68 2000

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Jul  4 13:49:36 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 12:49:36 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] SPL212 for sale (was RE: SPL 310 for sale)
In-Reply-To: <cfb.37d45077.359ed005@aol.com>
Message-ID: <62DA7ECE254D480A822DDB7D7003E526@xp>

Kerry had time to email me the pics he took with his cell phone, which is
all he had when he came across the car before leaving town for Shasta. He
will try to take better pics if anyone is interested when he returns home on
July 14th.

It appears to be a SP212. There was a pic of the VIN plate, but impossible
to read from the cell phone pic.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of kdrapidprint at psnw.com
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 4:46 PM
To: roadster list
Subject: [Roadsters] SPL 310 for sale


Anybody out there interestered in a 61 310.

Looks like the car is complete except for air filter and headlight rings.

serial # is 000004

contact me if interested and I will send picures

I can't show picture so contact me

Kerry Dehmel
Fresno, CA

From kdrapidprint at psnw.com  Fri Jul  4 14:13:03 2008
From: kdrapidprint at psnw.com (kdrapidprint at psnw.com)
Date: Fri,  4 Jul 2008 13:13:03 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] SPL212 for sale (was RE: SPL 310 for sale)
In-Reply-To: <62DA7ECE254D480A822DDB7D7003E526@xp>
References: <62DA7ECE254D480A822DDB7D7003E526@xp>
Message-ID: <1215202383.486e844f237ff@webmail2.psnw.com>

To All

Response was fast on the car - It is a 212 model  and is sold.  

Thanks for the response


Kerry

From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  4 14:45:23 2008
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 13:45:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb Saga - Almost done!
Message-ID: <17864.17514.qm@web51108.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Well, I got in my backup set of carbs from Z Therapy. I have to say these guys
are a class act.
 
1969 SRL 311 2000.
 
The video is wonderful, the carbs beautiful. I put them in, set them up and
she ran. I tuned her up and all went very easy. Except two things.
 
More on the NEW problems in a minute.
 
I did discover something wrong with the car. I had not removed the insulators
the first time, because they were very securely glued to the mainfold. But
this time I did. I found that some nimcompoop had not done it right many years
ago. Part of one gasket between the insulator and the manifold was missing,
and I expect that air leak was my problem in the past. I'd guess .005 x 1/2",
enough to cause havoc, but be unseen.
 
On the the LATEST problems.
 
I put in the new ZTherapy carbs, and had no problem until I went to do the
high speed synchronization. With the balanace screw REMOVED, the rear carb
open first. There is no adjustment. I believe it is in correctly. I had to
make a shim to take up the slop (about .030) in the front linkage interface to
get them equal.
 
That being done, the engine idling perfectly and a sappy smile on my face, I
got in to run around the block. No problem until I gave it gas. Back fire
through the carbs. If I baby it a bit, it is minor, and drivable, but who
wants to baby a 2000? Not me.
 
So I check the timing, 16 degrees just like datsunroadster said for my no smog
dizzy. Perhaps the points are off, but I don't think that would cause this,
 
I set the valve clearances perfectly last time.
 
HELP! Anyone have any ideas?
 
So near and yet still further.
 
Jim Gammon
 
New Jersey
 
 

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Fri Jul  4 14:53:24 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:53:24 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Mystery wires by headlights
In-Reply-To: <601577.37422.qm@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <601577.37422.qm@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <005c01c8de18$031c0b10$09542130$@net>

  You may be looking at the stock wiring for optional driving lights.  Stick
a meter on them and turn your headlight switch (Sorry, can't remember
clockwise or counter clockwise.).  If you register 12 volts, it's driving
lights.  If by pulling out the head light switch you see 12 volts, then it
would be side marker lights.  Some late '68's had side markers.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Ritchie Labate
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:58 PM
To: Datsun Roadster blog
Subject: [Roadsters] Mystery wires by headlights

I have a '68 2000 with color wiring diagram available. I'm trying to
determine a pair a wires under the hood located by the left and right
headlights coming out of the harness with the others. I have identified 2
other pairs not attached to anything as the foglights which I do not have
(red/green stripe and black). The ones I need help with are green/white
stripe and black. My headlights and turn signals are connected and fine.
These pairs are not attached to anything. The only other symptom elsewhere
is that my horn doesnt work but I'm thinking its under the Grant steering
wheel as the problem. Maybe not?? If I connect a jumper from + battery
directly to the horn, it works.
If someone has a chance to peek under their hood and see if they have these
wires connected to anything, that would be awesome!!
Happy 4th!!!!
Ritchie
'68 2000

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Fri Jul  4 15:52:54 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 17:52:54 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb Saga - Almost done!
Message-ID: <c23.3e52921d.359ff5b6@aol.com>

In a message dated 7/4/2008 1:45:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time,  
gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com writes:


I  did discover something wrong with the car. I had not removed the  
insulators
the first time, because they were very securely glued to the  mainfold. But
this time I did. I found that some nimcompoop had not done it  right many 
years
ago. Part of one gasket between the insulator and the  manifold was missing,
and I expect that air leak was my problem in the  past. I'd guess .005 x 1/2",
enough to cause havoc, but be  unseen.


Better than great globs of gasket goo. Those gaskets are part of the  
insulator so they are not available from Nissan seperately. Not a problem  though, 
cut one out of regular gasket paper. Here's what I do. Use an exacto  knife and 
carefully scrape the old gasket off. Once the bleeding stops I buff  the 
insulators with compound and a cloth wheel. Folks keep asking where I find  new 
insulators. 
 


On  the the LATEST problems.

I put in the new ZTherapy carbs, and had no  problem until I went to do the
high speed synchronization. With the  balanace screw REMOVED, the rear carb
open first. There is no adjustment. I  believe it is in correctly. I had to
make a shim to take up the slop (about  .030) in the front linkage interface 
to
get them  equal.


Not Ztherapys fault. The tabs that link this together are so commonly bent  
that I'm not at all surprised that you had this problem. Often I'll need to  
tweek them on the bench. If you study the linkage you should be able to see  
where one or more are not quite square. A little bend and you should be good to  
go. That's one benefit that I have selling the manifold and carbs as a set, I  
can do a check for that on the bench. 
 
keith "packing the ice cream maker, carb stuff, and heading for shasta"  
williams



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From aultgc at att.net  Sat Jul  5 14:41:46 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:41:46 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Starter gone or going?
References: <743105.7020.qm@web81206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00be01c8dedf$8b145d20$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

Ritchie,

I'd go for easier possibilities first.  The symptoms you describes can 
result from a poor connection somewhere in the electrical circuit -- even 
within the battery itself -- resulting in low voltage at the starter.  Trace 
the starter ciruit, and make sure all connections are clean and sound.  Make 
sure the ground cable from the starter housing to the frame is present and 
connections are clean.  Take the battery to a reputable shop and have it 
load tested.  (I once had a problem with my '97 Jimmy similar to your 
problem.  Turns out the problem was a connection internal to the battery 
which sometimes worked, and other times did not.  The security system, 
sensing that someone had tampered with the battery, would not allow the car 
to start.  I learned this AFTER I had the security system -- an aftermarket 
item -- removed.)

If none of the above finds the cause of the problem, you're only out your 
time.  And then you get to go after the harder stuff.  I've seen more cars, 
particularly multi-owner vehicles, with battery and ground problems than 
with starter solenoid problems.

Gary

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To: "Datsun Roadster blog" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 12:47 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Starter gone or going?


> Hi folks,
> Wondering if my starter is on the way out...symptoms: when I turn
> the key, 3 things can happen... 1. absolutely nothing, 2. a click and/or
> whirling sound without turning the engine or 3. the car starts no problem. 
> If
> it is out, I'm thinking forklift replacement Nissan 23300-K9160(Mitsubishi
> M1T60081 or M1T60381). Any thoughts?
> Thanks!
> Ritchie Labate
> '68 2000
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From Walter.Peterson at cox.net  Sat Jul  5 15:13:03 2008
From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter Peterson)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 14:13:03 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Grants Products
In-Reply-To: <003801c8dbed$b4f3fc80$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
References: <003801c8dbed$b4f3fc80$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <00dc01c8dee3$e9a6e2f0$bcf4a8d0$@Peterson@cox.net>

I was going to ask how to get a hold of the folks at Grants, however when I
hit Reply to all I found you copied Joey Ferrari at Grant Products.  Thank
you, I'll write him off line.

Walt Peterson
Still Burning in Goleta.
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[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Gary and Cindy Ault
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 7:46 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Cc: Joey Ferrari
Subject: [Roadsters] Grants Products

To those on the list:

I don't know to what extent you all may have an opportunity to deal with
Grant
Products -- the steering wheel people, among other things -- but I will tell
you, if you have an opportunity, do so.  They're great people.

I have two old, out-of-prodution steering wheel adapters for early datsun
roadsters.  The contact plates which allow the horn pin on a standard
roadster
steering column to operate were no longer serviceable.  One plate had come
loose from the hub, and the other was worn, and no longer made good contact.
Grants refurbished both of these hubs for me, at a very reasonable price.
Most companies would have simply blown me off.  After all, with my
roadsters,
I am not likely to be a customer for their current offerings of custom
steering wheels.  But they didn't.  The service I received was an example of
the best American companies have to offer.

So, if you have the opportunity, work with them in confidence.

Gary
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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Sat Jul  5 18:00:28 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 20:00:28 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] '68 with side markers?
Message-ID: <004801c8defb$4dbb57a0$e93206e0$@net>

  Anybody have some photos of a '68 roadster with side marker lights?

 

Paul

Ohio

From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  5 21:20:50 2008
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 20:20:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb Saga - Almost done!
In-Reply-To: <010d01c8def1$53054cc0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <418157.476.qm@web51112.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

OK, well, I understand the rear carb may be supposed to open sooner, but it is
does, no air flow can ever be set. It is imbalanced.
 
So I agree with keith that the linkage must need a little bend.
 
As far as the mixture, I will try richening it.
 
The valve timing I checked three times, so I think I got it right.
 
The dizzy is a no smog, the cam is stock 69. If this a problem? I don't see
how, unless the dizzy if firing too soon.
 
It could also perhaps be the gas, it is two years old.
 
I'll try retarding the dizzy, replacing the gas and richening.
 
Jim

From RoadsterGB at aol.com  Sun Jul  6 09:35:25 2008
From: RoadsterGB at aol.com (RoadsterGB at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 11:35:25 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] www.fairlady.org - latest image of the month ...
Message-ID: <d2d.30aca127.35a2403d@aol.com>

... is a small but interesting piece of memorabilia which ties the  roadster 
into the musical it was named after a few years before - enjoy. 
 
 
_http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/intro.htm_ 
(http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/intro.htm) 
 
Further updates coming soon and greetings from England - Rob 
(http://www.datsun.org.fairlady/) 
 (http://www.datsun.org.fairlady) 

From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Sun Jul  6 11:36:58 2008
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 10:36:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb Problems are OVER
Message-ID: <311269.49292.qm@web51108.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I would like to proudly announce the rebirth of a 1969 SRL-311 2000cc
roadster.
 
It will take a lot to whipe this grin off my face.
 
It was the fuel.
 
I drained out as much as I could and put in 2.5 gallons of premium.
 
I took her around the block. At first, no better, then she stopped spitting
and coughing as much. (Backfire through the carbs and exhaust) She seemed to
smooth out. I chanced the main road, 35 mph speed limit.
 
I had to coax her up to speed, no more than 2500 rpm, low load. But she
smoothed out more, and I poked the throttle, no cough, no spit. I downshifted
and gave her a little gas, she responded like a Datsun for the first time. I
slowed to 25 and gave her the gun, she revved up to 65 no problem at 5000 rpm
or so. Don't ask me about gears,I don't recall. I was zoned out.
 
Knowing 65 is too darn fast in a 35 zone, and that the engine needs to break
in, I quickly resumed proper speeds.
 
She positively purrs. I filled the tank, and drove home.
 
It may be raining on and off, cloudy and humid, but it is a beautiful day.
 
My thanks to all who helped, but it was an old boat mechanic relative who
listened to the symptoms and said "Bad gas". He sees old gas problems all the
time in the pleasure boat business.
 
FYI, stock cam 69 2000, with no-smog distributor, 16 degrees advance.
Completely rebuilt from hot tanked block on up. Stans chains, ZTherapy carbs,
tubing headers, previous owner's exhaust (that is restrictive), rebuilt trans,
new front suspension. Needs new rear, have one in the box. (old one has a
slight whine)
 
Now I work on the interior and exterior, not bad. (grin)
 
Proud Pappa
 
Jim Gammon
Manaquan, NJ
1969 SRL-311 2000
 

From cjs37 at juno.com  Sun Jul  6 19:14:33 2008
From: cjs37 at juno.com (cjs37 at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 20:14:33 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] oil gauge
Message-ID: <20080706.201435.2780.1.cjs37@juno.com>

Question: I have a l970 2000 Roadster, when I took her for a drive the
other day the oil gauge went to O then up and back down and stayed down,
I recently had the oil changed and it's clean on the dip stick. Does
anyone have any ideas what could be wrong? Thanks, Katy  cjs37 at juno.com
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From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jul  6 21:23:42 2008
From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 20:23:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] oil gauge
In-Reply-To: <20080706.201435.2780.1.cjs37@juno.com>
Message-ID: <645089.60772.qm@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

It is normal for the oil gauge to go up and down, depending on the rev'ving of the engine. However, at idle there should still be some oil pressure (more than zero). Now, with an old roadster gauges, things may not be accurate.

When you start the engine (after it is cold), does it show any oil pressure?

If it does, there is a good chance your oil change place used a very thin oil , as prescribed on newer cars (5/20). Not the best to use on old roadsters.You may wish to try a thicker oil (maybe a straight 30 Weight , or even 20/50). Your oil pressure should increase using a thicker oil. 

Dan Zubkoff
Houston, TX

cjs37 at juno.com wrote: Question: I have a l970 2000 Roadster, when I took her for a drive the
other day the oil gauge went to O then up and back down and stayed down,
I recently had the oil changed and it's clean on the dip stick. Does
anyone have any ideas what could be wrong? Thanks, Katy  cjs37 at juno.com
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From andycost at embarqmail.com  Sun Jul  6 21:40:10 2008
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 22:40:10 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Going finally, I hope.
Message-ID: <JBEKJICFFOFCBHHGLNFDEEEMDEAA.andycost@embarqmail.com>

Broke 4/20/08

1. Cleaned injectors
2. New fuel lines
3. New fuel pump
4. New ECU
5. New daughterboard in ECU
6. Whole bunch of tuning on the laptop
7. New fuel injectors
8. New injector o-rings
9. New mass air sensor
10. New spark plugs
11. Reversed rectal cranial inversion
12. Problem solved

It all started when the fuel line dissolved and coated my injectors and
everything else in goo.  The thing just wouldn't run right after that.
Nothing I tried would seem to help.  In the end it was a combination of
problems.  Mostly there was a bad MAF sensor that probably went bad when my
water/methanol system screwed up and sprayed into the MAF.  I replaced it
but the car still ran poorly.  One o-ring was filling the motor with
gasoline pretty fast.  The last thing I figured out was that I had two plug
wires swapped.  Once I got the new MAF, new o-ring, and firing order correct
the car ran like a top.  I had most of the other parts so I'm not out a
bunch of money.  The new daughterboard was on loan from it's creator and
will be on it's way back to OZ next week.  I missed a few races and did
poorly in the ones I limped through.  Hopefully the bugs are out of the
system now.  I've got to figure out a better place for the water/meth spray.
It is too close to the MAF currently.

Later,

Andy
 http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2681726230065431685IKYrEh

From aultgc at att.net  Sun Jul  6 23:19:09 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 00:19:09 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] oil gauge
References: <20080706.201435.2780.1.cjs37@juno.com>
Message-ID: <000901c8dff0$fcfec800$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

Katy,

I think your oil pressure gauge is mechanical like the '68s and '69s, that 
is, it operates directly off the engine oil gallery.  The tap is on the 
right side of the engine, just above the joint with the oil pan.  A flexible 
line runs from the tap to a point on the frame, where a solid tube leads to 
the oil pressure gauge.

Check for leaks at the connections, and check the flexible portion of the 
line carefully.  Battery leakage (if the tray is absent) can rot the 
flexible line, and lead to failure.  Bad things follow as the engine loses 
oil.

If the oil pan is still full per the dipstick, and there are no major leaks, 
we need more information.  As Dan asked, how does the gauge respond when the 
engine is cold?  Pressure good?  If so, it's probably not anything serious 
with the motor.  It could be a blockage in the oil pressure sensing line or 
the gauge itself.  There is virtually no flow in the sensing line, so I 
think a line blockage is unlikely.  It could be a weakness in the oil 
pressure relief valve in the oil pump discharge.  Since my early car's gauge 
is electrical, so I have nothing better to offer than some possibilities.  I 
hope you hear from others on the list.

Gary Ault

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Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 8:14 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] oil gauge


> Question: I have a l970 2000 Roadster, when I took her for a drive the
> other day the oil gauge went to O then up and back down and stayed down,
> I recently had the oil changed and it's clean on the dip stick. Does
> anyone have any ideas what could be wrong? Thanks, Katy  cjs37 at juno.com
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From gregs672liter at netzero.net  Sun Jul  6 23:28:09 2008
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 05:28:09 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] Going finally, I hope.
Message-ID: <20080706.222809.1692.0@webmail21.vgs.untd.com>

Before fix:  "I love this hobbie!"  (Under breath... "#$&%ing car... piece of
crap... you had better run right or else... OW!  That's my finger, now with no
meat on the knuckle thank you very F'n much!  Oh, so that's how it's gonna be
huh?  You wanna fight me... do ya!  HUH!  ZAP!  OW!  OK, better disconnect
that damn battery... piece of crap... you had damn well better run right after
all this...")
After she's back together and purring:  "I love this hobbie!" (Under breath...
"Please baby, please don't break.  I promise I will always love you... you be
good to me; I'll be good to you.  I LOVE you.... oh crap, was that a
stumble...?")
Glad she is back together Andy... go get em!
Greg "been there" Burrows


-- "Andy Cost" <andycost at embarqmail.com> wrote:
Broke 4/20/08

1. Cleaned injectors
2. New fuel lines
3. New fuel pump
4. New ECU
5. New daughterboard in ECU
6. Whole bunch of tuning on the laptop
7. New fuel injectors
8. New injector o-rings
9. New mass air sensor
10. New spark plugs
11. Reversed rectal cranial inversion
12. Problem solved

It all started when the fuel line dissolved and coated my injectors and
everything else in goo.  The thing just wouldn't run right after that.
Nothing I tried would seem to help.  In the end it was a combination of
problems.  Mostly there was a bad MAF sensor that probably went bad when my
water/methanol system screwed up and sprayed into the MAF.  I replaced it
but the car still ran poorly.  One o-ring was filling the motor with
gasoline pretty fast.  The last thing I figured out was that I had two plug
wires swapped.  Once I got the new MAF, new o-ring, and firing order correct
the car ran like a top.  I had most of the other parts so I'm not out a
bunch of money.  The new daughterboard was on loan from it's creator and
will be on it's way back to OZ next week.  I missed a few races and did
poorly in the ones I limped through.  Hopefully the bugs are out of the
system now.  I've got to figure out a better place for the water/meth spray.
It is too close to the MAF currently.

Later,

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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Mon Jul  7 04:40:47 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 06:40:47 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Going finally, I hope.
In-Reply-To: <20080706.222809.1692.0@webmail21.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20080706.222809.1692.0@webmail21.vgs.untd.com>
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  Okay, where did you hide the recorder in my garage?

  Finally had some time this weekend and got my KA24E roadster out for a
ride.  Amazing what a set of Kumo 758s in place of 11 year old Kelly
passenger tires will do.  Still need to find a good mirror for the door
(Knocked off the mirror last winter in the garage.  Glad the recorder missed
that episode!).  Runs a bit warm so I think a radiator flush is in order
soon.

Paul
Ohio
BTDT

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Before fix:  "I love this hobbie!"  (Under breath... "#$&%ing car... piece
of
crap... you had better run right or else... OW!  That's my finger, now with
no
meat on the knuckle thank you very F'n much!  Oh, so that's how it's gonna
be
huh?  You wanna fight me... do ya!  HUH!  ZAP!  OW!  OK, better disconnect
that damn battery... piece of crap... you had damn well better run right
after
all this...")
After she's back together and purring:  "I love this hobbie!" (Under
breath...
"Please baby, please don't break.  I promise I will always love you... you
be
good to me; I'll be good to you.  I LOVE you.... oh crap, was that a
stumble...?")
Glad she is back together Andy... go get em!
Greg "been there" Burrows

From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Mon Jul  7 09:12:27 2008
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:12:27 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Low screen 1600 at CarsnCoffee, Irvine this weekend
Message-ID: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755DCD0958@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>

Pics from weekly (Irvine, CA) car show, I see a low screen 1600, in
silver.
Not a car I recognize, anyone here?  (gotta scroll down a ways)

http://carsandcoffee.info/forum/showthread.php?t=904

From racery at comcast.net  Mon Jul  7 09:35:57 2008
From: racery at comcast.net (racery at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:35:57 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] '68 with side markers
Message-ID: <070720081535.5074.487237DD000654A2000013D22205886442979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net>

You mean, like this?
http://home.comcast.net/~racery/'68%20roadster.jpg

The story is, though, that when I bought the car it had one '68 fender and one '69 fender.
Since I didn't have the side chrome, I figured it needed something- so I added the front markers.

There aren't any on the back...

Toby
Seattle

>Date:		Sat, 5 Jul 2008 20:00:28 -0400

  >Anybody have some photos of a '68 roadster with side marker lights?

>Paul
>Ohio

From bstjacques at atrua.com  Mon Jul  7 11:17:41 2008
From: bstjacques at atrua.com (Brian St. Jacques)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:17:41 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Mystery wires by headlights
In-Reply-To: <005c01c8de18$031c0b10$09542130$@net>
Message-ID: <9FDC37889ED3CF479988599DD681FA0F1A9100@exch01.icontrolinc.com>

I combed through my '68 wiring a little while back before removing the
body from the frame. I think I found the same wires and determined they
matched the '69 diagram for the side markers. I vaguely recall my '68
also had some differences with either the alternator plug or headlight
relay that matched something other than the '68 wiring diagram.

Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+bstjacques=atrua.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+bstjacques=atrua.com at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:53 PM
To: 'Ritchie Labate'
Cc: 'datsun-roadsters'
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Mystery wires by headlights

  You may be looking at the stock wiring for optional driving lights.
Stick a meter on them and turn your headlight switch (Sorry, can't
remember clockwise or counter clockwise.).  If you register 12 volts,
it's driving lights.  If by pulling out the head light switch you see 12
volts, then it would be side marker lights.  Some late '68's had side
markers.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Ritchie Labate
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:58 PM
To: Datsun Roadster blog
Subject: [Roadsters] Mystery wires by headlights

I have a '68 2000 with color wiring diagram available. I'm trying to
determine a pair a wires under the hood located by the left and right
headlights coming out of the harness with the others. I have identified
2 other pairs not attached to anything as the foglights which I do not
have (red/green stripe and black). The ones I need help with are
green/white stripe and black. My headlights and turn signals are
connected and fine.
These pairs are not attached to anything. The only other symptom
elsewhere is that my horn doesnt work but I'm thinking its under the
Grant steering wheel as the problem. Maybe not?? If I connect a jumper
from + battery directly to the horn, it works.
If someone has a chance to peek under their hood and see if they have
these wires connected to anything, that would be awesome!!
Happy 4th!!!!
Ritchie
'68 2000
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From orangedawg at hotmail.com  Mon Jul  7 11:19:52 2008
From: orangedawg at hotmail.com (orangedawg at hotmail.com)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:19:52 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 68 1600 for sale in eastern WA
Message-ID: <BAY101-W28BAEC2C93E05352DA01D9CA940@phx.gbl>

http://wenatchee.craigslist.org/car/744078934.html

http://www.mygoodstuff4sale.com/GalleryFilmstrip.aspx?gallery=89595&photo=290
9239

Don't know this car.  Just saw it on my local craigslist.  There aren't many
roadsters in my area and I haven't seen this one before so I have no idea the
history or anything.  I can look at it if anyone wants.  Again, I don't know
the seller or this car, but just thought I'd pass this along.  There are
pictures on the second link.  Seems kind of pricey for the condition it's in.

Allen
1970 2000 w/solex's that badly needs body work
Wenatchee, WA
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Mon Jul  7 13:18:00 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:18:00 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] 68 1600 for sale in eastern WA
Message-ID: <070720081918.21635.48726BE8000A4FE9000054832205889116CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Same car that was for sale a few weeks ago before the owner moved (from Nevada? Arizona?)

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
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> http://wenatchee.craigslist.org/car/744078934.html
> 
> http://www.mygoodstuff4sale.com/GalleryFilmstrip.aspx?gallery=89595&photo=290
> 9239
> 
> Don't know this car.  Just saw it on my local craigslist.  There aren't many
> roadsters in my area and I haven't seen this one before so I have no idea the
> history or anything.  I can look at it if anyone wants.  Again, I don't know
> the seller or this car, but just thought I'd pass this along.  There are
> pictures on the second link.  Seems kind of pricey for the condition it's in.
> 
> Allen
> 1970 2000 w/solex's that badly needs body work
> Wenatchee, WA
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From hoon at pixar.com  Mon Jul  7 15:47:53 2008
From: hoon at pixar.com (Hoon Kim)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:47:53 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] counter gear busted in 4 speed transmission
Message-ID: <87F1DD8B-66B4-451A-A888-7BE1F4C60BF7@pixar.com>

So I finally had some free time to tinker around my spare  
transmission and finally found out what was wrong with it.

It is a 4 speed, I believe a servo style transmission and the 1st  
gear on the counter gear is busted. All the other gears seemed to be  
fine.

Now, the transmission that is on my car currently I think has a bad  
counter shaft. Now the question is:

A)
Is it possible for me to either take out the counter gear from my  
installed transmission and put into my disassembled one (granted that  
they are both servo style) without taking out the transmission in the  
car?

or B)

same situation but replace the counter shaft in the current car instead

or C)

take out the transmission and frankenstein a clean transmission  
between the both of them?

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

hoon

early '67 1600

From Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com  Mon Jul  7 16:26:48 2008
From: Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com (Pat)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:26:48 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] counter gear busted in 4 speed transmission
In-Reply-To: <87F1DD8B-66B4-451A-A888-7BE1F4C60BF7@pixar.com>
References: <87F1DD8B-66B4-451A-A888-7BE1F4C60BF7@pixar.com>
Message-ID: <48729828.3030400@HorneSystemsTx.com>

Hoon,

As I recall the counter shaft slides out the front of the transmission. 
I doubt there is enough clearance in the clutch housing to allow this to 
happen while the trans is still mounted. It's bee years since I rebuilt 
my trans, and I can't remember what held the counter shaft in. I'm 
thinking it is the bell housing bolted to the front of the trans, but I 
can't remember for sure.

I vote for "C". There are thrust washers on each end of the counter 
shaft (I think). They come in different thicknesses to allow for 
adjusting the end play on the shaft.

Hopefully someone else will have a better memory than me!

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Hoon Kim:
> So I finally had some free time to tinker around my spare  
> transmission and finally found out what was wrong with it.
>
> It is a 4 speed, I believe a servo style transmission and the 1st  
> gear on the counter gear is busted. All the other gears seemed to be  
> fine.
>
> Now, the transmission that is on my car currently I think has a bad  
> counter shaft. Now the question is:
>
> A)
> Is it possible for me to either take out the counter gear from my  
> installed transmission and put into my disassembled one (granted that  
> they are both servo style) without taking out the transmission in the  
> car?
>
> or B)
>
> same situation but replace the counter shaft in the current car instead
>
> or C)
>
> take out the transmission and frankenstein a clean transmission  
> between the both of them?
>
> Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
>
> hoon
>
> early '67 1600
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From rlabate at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jul  7 16:27:33 2008
From: rlabate at sbcglobal.net (Ritchie Labate)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:27:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Mystery wires by headlights
Message-ID: <352830.95246.qm@web81201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks Brian and Paul, I appreciate the help.


----- Original Message ----
From: Brian St. Jacques <bstjacques at atrua.com>
To: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net>;
Ritchie Labate <rlabate at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: datsun-roadsters
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 10:17:41 AM
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Mystery wires by headlights

I combed through my '68
wiring a little while back before removing the
body from the frame. I think I
found the same wires and determined they
matched the '69 diagram for the side
markers. I vaguely recall my '68
also had some differences with either the
alternator plug or headlight
relay that matched something other than the '68
wiring diagram. 

Brian  

-----Original Message-----
From:
datsun-roadsters-bounces+bstjacques=atrua.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+bstjacques=atrua.com at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:53 PM
To: 'Ritchie Labate'
Cc:
'datsun-roadsters'
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Mystery wires by headlights

  You
may be looking at the stock wiring for optional driving lights.
Stick a meter
on them and turn your headlight switch (Sorry, can't
remember clockwise or
counter clockwise.).  If you register 12 volts,
it's driving lights.  If by
pulling out the head light switch you see 12
volts, then it would be side
marker lights.  Some late '68's had side
markers.

Paul

-----Original
Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf
Of Ritchie Labate
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:58 PM
To: Datsun Roadster blog
Subject: [Roadsters] Mystery wires by headlights

I have a '68 2000 with color
wiring diagram available. I'm trying to
determine a pair a wires under the
hood located by the left and right
headlights coming out of the harness with
the others. I have identified
2 other pairs not attached to anything as the
foglights which I do not
have (red/green stripe and black). The ones I need
help with are
green/white stripe and black. My headlights and turn signals are
connected and fine.
These pairs are not attached to anything. The only other
symptom
elsewhere is that my horn doesnt work but I'm thinking its under the
Grant steering wheel as the problem. Maybe not?? If I connect a jumper
from +
battery directly to the horn, it works.
If someone has a chance to peek under
their hood and see if they have
these wires connected to anything, that would
be awesome!!
Happy 4th!!!!
Ritchie
'68 2000
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From chuckkyle at mac.com  Mon Jul  7 20:46:54 2008
From: chuckkyle at mac.com (Charles Kyle)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:46:54 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Invoice or other display items
Message-ID: <C4983F4E.170F%chuckkyle@mac.com>

Good Evening,

Well my Datsun is finally making its way up and down the streets.  It has
been a long time coming and for a rolling restoration it looks pretty good.
We are having a very small car show this weekend and I was thinking about at
least parking it there just for conversation if nothing else.  What I am
looking for is anything that I could have printed and laminated (like at
Kinko9s) to place on on the window and under the hood.  Something like a
copy of an original invoice, spec sheet, anything that would display well.
Anyone have anything that they would not mind scanning and emailing me in a
jpeg or gif?

Thanks in advance.
--

V/r

Chuck


Chuck Kyle
Hm 512-225-4501

email:
Work - charles.kyle at us.army.mil
Home - chuck at chuckkyle.com

From chuckkyle at mac.com  Mon Jul  7 20:58:26 2008
From: chuckkyle at mac.com (Charles Kyle)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:58:26 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Invoice or other display items
Message-ID: <C4984202.1717%chuckkyle@mac.com>

Good Evening,

Well my Datsun is finally making its way up and down the streets.  It has
been a long time coming and for a rolling restoration it looks pretty good.
We are having a very small car show this weekend and I was thinking about at
least parking it there just for conversation if nothing else.  What I am
looking for is anything that I could have printed and laminated (like at
Kinko9s) to place on on the window and under the hood.  Something like a
copy of an original invoice, spec sheet, anything that would display well.
Anyone have anything that they would not mind scanning and emailing me in a
jpeg or gif?

Thanks in advance.
--

V/r

Chuck


Chuck Kyle
Hm 512-225-4501

email:
Work - charles.kyle at us.army.mil
Home - chuck at chuckkyle.com

From graemes at internode.on.net  Mon Jul  7 21:27:10 2008
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 12:57:10 +0930
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Invoice or other display items
In-Reply-To: <C4983F4E.170F%chuckkyle@mac.com>
References: <C4983F4E.170F%chuckkyle@mac.com>
Message-ID: <000301c8e0aa$82287210$236fa8c0@desktop>

Hi Chuck,
I have uploaded pics. Of my modest brochure collection for the community to
share.
Have a look here: -
http://tinyurl.com/6datgo
You are welcome to use any of them.
Email me if you want the original scans, they will be big but better
quality. 

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+graemes=internode.on.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+graemes=internode.on.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Charles Kyle
Sent: Tuesday, 8 July 2008 12:17 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Invoice or other display items

Good Evening,

Well my Datsun is finally making its way up and down the streets.  It has
been a long time coming and for a rolling restoration it looks pretty good.
We are having a very small car show this weekend and I was thinking about at
least parking it there just for conversation if nothing else.  What I am
looking for is anything that I could have printed and laminated (like at
Kinko9s) to place on on the window and under the hood.  Something like a
copy of an original invoice, spec sheet, anything that would display well.
Anyone have anything that they would not mind scanning and emailing me in a
jpeg or gif?

Thanks in advance.
--

V/r

Chuck


Chuck Kyle
Hm 512-225-4501

email:
Work - charles.kyle at us.army.mil
Home - chuck at chuckkyle.com

From chuckkyle at mac.com  Mon Jul  7 21:42:29 2008
From: chuckkyle at mac.com (Charles Kyle)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:42:29 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Invoice or other display items
In-Reply-To: <C4984202.1717%chuckkyle@mac.com>
Message-ID: <C4984C55.EF19%chuckkyle@mac.com>

Oh I forgot:

1968 Dat Road 1600

Chuck


On 7/7/08 9:58 PM, "Charles Kyle" <chuckkyle at mac.com> wrote:

> Good Evening,
> 
> Well my Datsun is finally making its way up and down the streets.  It has
> been a long time coming and for a rolling restoration it looks pretty good.
> We are having a very small car show this weekend and I was thinking about at
> least parking it there just for conversation if nothing else.  What I am
> looking for is anything that I could have printed and laminated (like at
> Kinko9s) to place on on the window and under the hood.  Something like a
> copy of an original invoice, spec sheet, anything that would display well.
> Anyone have anything that they would not mind scanning and emailing me in a
> jpeg or gif?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> --
> 
> V/r
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> Chuck Kyle
> Hm 512-225-4501
> 
> email:
> Work - charles.kyle at us.army.mil
> Home - chuck at chuckkyle.com
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From garytew at cox.net  Mon Jul  7 22:11:34 2008
From: garytew at cox.net (Gary tew)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:11:34 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster article in Phoenix paper
Message-ID: <C7C9BF79-0DEE-458F-A758-71EE3A4AABBA@cox.net>

There was a nice article in the Phoenix Sunday paper showing Michael  
Manna's restored '66 1600.  Is he a list member?  Nice looking car and  
cool to see our cars in "mainstream" media.  Now if it weren't 110  
outside, I'd drive mine over to Scottsdale and check it out first  
hand.  Maybe in October!  Drive on.

Gary Tew
'67 1600 VG30
Peoria, AZ 

From tom at datsun2000.com  Tue Jul  8 01:45:36 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 00:45:36 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Open seat to Shasta
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGKEDHDFAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

I expect to be leaving for Shasta Friday morning, or maybe Thursday.  If
there is someone looking to go down at the last minute I have a spare dinner
ticket that will not be used and would consider sharing a room, as yet
unreserved.

Get back to me offline if you are looking for a ride down.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

From tputland at charter.net  Tue Jul  8 05:37:48 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 4:37:48 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Laptops--THANKS!
Message-ID: <20080708073748.B5K7Y.69097.root@fepweb15>

Just a quick note to say thanks to everyone who responded. I have loads of info to consider now. 

A couple of you said get a MAC anyway. I will buy a MAC for the house next time I buy a computer--had planned on that any way, but the school where my daughter will be going said not to as they have known compatibility issues and want to save headaches. 

Thanks again to everyone who replied!!!!

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Tue Jul  8 16:54:05 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:54:05 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] oil gauge
In-Reply-To: <20080706.201435.2780.1.cjs37@juno.com>
Message-ID: <E1KGM4U-0004AB-JA@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi Katy,
Loreli has once had the same problem. Her issue was easy to see. It WAS a
leak in the oil line. Yes, a 70 2000 has a mechanical gauge and the line,
though it doesn't hold a lot of oil, is under pretty high pressure. It
doesn't take long for all your oil to be on the ground behind you. As I
recall, I got about 1 mile per quart. OUCH 
It is fairly easy to verify if your problem is a pressure issue or a gauge
issue. Find that hose! It's right next to the base of the distributor,
coming out of the block. Locate the other end and disconnect it. Put a rag
under the end of the hose and fire the car up. Blip the throttle once, to
get full pressure and turn it off quick (unless you have a spare quart of
oil and don't mind puddles on the ground).  :-) 
If you have a bunch of oil in your rag, it's likely the gauge. (or at least
between the hose and the gauge). Bend the hose, look for ANY cracks. If you
have them, replace it now. Don't wait. Frankly, I'd say if you don't know
how old it is, replace it anyway. Start checking the steel lines for a kink.
Believe me, this is the preferable of the two outcomes of the test, even
though that hose is expensive as hell. After I paid about $90 for my new
hose, I realized that's less than $2.50 per year of life out of the hose, so
I felt better about it.

You CAN snake out the steel line with some bicycle shifter cable, or the
sort. Keep in mind that if there's crud in there, you're going to push much
of the crud toward the gauge, but it's MUCH easier than disconnecting the
gauge and pushing it the other way. You'd basically be doing angioplasty on
your car. HAHAHAHAHA! Guess that would make you a CARdiologist. (sorry)

The other outcome likely requires an oil pump, oil pan gasket, and more new
oil (at the bare minimum).

Either way, find out BEFORE going for a drive again. PLEASE! Engines are
MUCH more expensive than either of the two other possibilities!
Matt Smith (Hixson, TN)
And Loreli (She's a Silver 70' Solex)



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Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:15 PM
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Subject: [Roadsters] oil gauge

Question: I have a l970 2000 Roadster, when I took her for a drive the
other day the oil gauge went to O then up and back down and stayed down,
I recently had the oil changed and it's clean on the dip stick. Does
anyone have any ideas what could be wrong? Thanks, Katy  cjs37 at juno.com
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From slowboy at cox.net  Tue Jul  8 19:10:38 2008
From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:10:38 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 311s Forum
Message-ID: <000601c8e160$999e5660$0201a8c0@m7170n>

For those that click their bookmark to get to the 311s forum rather than going
through the homepage. There have been a couple of us doing it so I am posting
here.

http://311s.org/phpBB3/index.php

From sadleman at prairienet.org  Wed Jul  9 14:05:35 2008
From: sadleman at prairienet.org (Steve Adleman)
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:05:35 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 parts
Message-ID: <48751A0F.7010704@prairienet.org>

Hi All

I was cleaning up my parents basement and found a speaker box and a beat 
up chrome headlight bezel for my  '69 1600 I used to own. the original 
speaker was replaced with a calrad speaker with big magnet, the chrome 
trim ring is bent up, but possibly usable.  anyone interested contact me 
off list.

best
Steve Adleman

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Wed Jul  9 21:50:25 2008
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 20:50:25 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Head Porting
Message-ID: <000801c8e240$16b0d0d0$6500a8c0@Daryl>

Thought some of you might be interested in an article in the July issue of
Classic Motorsports in which they build up an1800cc MGB engine.

The most interesting point (to me) that they make is this:
"....before the upgrades, our high compression ratio required premium unleaded
fuel that still left us with pinging problems. After the upgrades, we could
run unleaded regular on all but the hottest summer days without a single ping.
We attribute this gain to the porting, especially of the restrictive exhaust
ports. We've seen this time and again with B series engines - a well ported
head gets the heat out of the combustion chamber faster and keeps preignition
and detonation at bay."

Our engines are, aside from 8 ports rather than 5, quite similar in design,
with restrictive exhaust ports. There are 3 reasons to clean up those exhaust
ports - more power, less detonation, and a cooler running engine.

Now to be fair, part of the reason, I think, for having less detonation is
that the longer duration cam will also reduce the effective compression ratio.

And something that really bothers me, after spending nearly $2,000 on a cam,
lifters, cam gears, porting gaskets etc. they gained only 14 hp at the wheels!
Up from 64 to 78........

My hopes of getting 100 hp at the wheels of my 1800cc stroker are looking
pretty damn slim.......  :-(

Daryl

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Thu Jul 10 04:50:38 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:50:38 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Head Porting
In-Reply-To: <000801c8e240$16b0d0d0$6500a8c0@Daryl>
References: <000801c8e240$16b0d0d0$6500a8c0@Daryl>
Message-ID: <001701c8e27a$cb90c890$62b259b0$@net>

And something that really bothers me, after spending nearly $2,000 on a cam,
lifters, cam gears, porting gaskets etc. they gained only 14 hp at the
wheels!
Up from 64 to 78........

My hopes of getting 100 hp at the wheels of my 1800cc stroker are looking
pretty damn slim.......  :-(

Daryl
-------------------------------------------------

  Wouldn't a 14hp gain on a MGB motor be better than 15% gain?  That sounds
pretty good to me.  What engine did you stroke to 1800cc?  I would think
100hp at the wheels would be possible.  Might not idle well, but .....

Paul
Ohio

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Thu Jul 10 08:59:40 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:59:40 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Head Porting
Message-ID: <c0a.3cd8432b.35a77ddc@aol.com>

In a message dated 7/9/2008 8:51:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time,  
drlsmith at dccnet.com writes:


Now  to be fair, part of the reason, I think, for having less detonation is
that  the longer duration cam will also reduce the effective compression  
ratio.

And something that really bothers me, after spending nearly  $2,000 on a cam,
lifters, cam gears, porting gaskets etc. they gained only  14 hp at the 
wheels!
Up from 64 to 78........

My hopes of getting  100 hp at the wheels of my 1800cc stroker are looking
pretty damn  slim.......  :-(

Daryl



A longer duration cam will lower the effective compression ratio. I think I  
might have milled the head a bit to pick the compression back up into the  
premimum range. Also, torque is generated by combustion chamber pressure, HP is  
generated by RPM. You can increase chamber pressure to increase torque and 
bump  HP some but the real HP increase comes from higher RPM. Rather than the 
stock  6000 RPM, build the engine to do 8000 RPM. With no increase in chamber 
pressure  you will pick up 1/3 more HP. This sounds simple however there is a lot 
that  goes into moving the peak of the torque curve from 6000 to 8000. Cam, 
port  sizes, balancing, strong rods, oiling and on and on. If you do the port 
and cam  to peak at 8000 rpm then only run to 6000 rpm you have wasted a lot of 
time and  money. You will see some gains but not nearly what you could.
 
Enough rambling for early in the morning.
 
keith



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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Thu Jul 10 09:33:59 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:33:59 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Head Porting
In-Reply-To: <c0a.3cd8432b.35a77ddc@aol.com>
References: <c0a.3cd8432b.35a77ddc@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002701c8e2a2$621ff520$265fdf60$@net>

  Not sure what motor he started with, but it might be tough to keep a
'stroked' motor together at 8000 rpms.  Think piston speed.

Paul
Ohio

--------------------------------
A longer duration cam will lower the effective compression ratio. I think I

might have milled the head a bit to pick the compression back up into the  
premimum range. Also, torque is generated by combustion chamber pressure, HP
is  
generated by RPM. You can increase chamber pressure to increase torque and 
bump  HP some but the real HP increase comes from higher RPM. Rather than
the 
stock  6000 RPM, build the engine to do 8000 RPM. With no increase in
chamber 
pressure  you will pick up 1/3 more HP. This sounds simple however there is
a lot 
that  goes into moving the peak of the torque curve from 6000 to 8000. Cam, 
port  sizes, balancing, strong rods, oiling and on and on. If you do the
port 
and cam  to peak at 8000 rpm then only run to 6000 rpm you have wasted a lot
of 
time and  money. You will see some gains but not nearly what you could.
 
Enough rambling for early in the morning.
 
keith

From Walter.Peterson at cox.net  Thu Jul 10 09:34:10 2008
From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter Peterson)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:34:10 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Head Porting
In-Reply-To: <c0a.3cd8432b.35a77ddc@aol.com>
References: <c0a.3cd8432b.35a77ddc@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c8e2a2$6638b1b0$32aa1510$@Peterson@cox.net>

I second Keith's comments and add that with a big cam you need to get the
compression back up by either closing the head chambers (welding & grinding
to get better Squish which also reduces or eliminates pinging) and/or update
the pistons to do a similar job.  You know you've hit the best compromise
when the compression tester reads in the 205 PSI range and you don't ping.
Flat tops & closed chambers on my R16 head & H20 crank (R16 rods).

Walt Peterson in burned out Goleta.

PS I have a free pair of usable 1600 drums & backing plates, winner pays
shipping.


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Keith0alan at aol.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 8:00 AM
To: drlsmith at dccnet.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Head Porting

In a message dated 7/9/2008 8:51:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time,  
drlsmith at dccnet.com writes:


Now  to be fair, part of the reason, I think, for having less detonation is
that  the longer duration cam will also reduce the effective compression  
ratio.

And something that really bothers me, after spending nearly  $2,000 on a
cam,
lifters, cam gears, porting gaskets etc. they gained only  14 hp at the 
wheels!
Up from 64 to 78........

My hopes of getting  100 hp at the wheels of my 1800cc stroker are looking
pretty damn  slim.......  :-(

Daryl



A longer duration cam will lower the effective compression ratio. I think I

might have milled the head a bit to pick the compression back up into the  
premimum range. Also, torque is generated by combustion chamber pressure, HP
is  
generated by RPM. You can increase chamber pressure to increase torque and 
bump  HP some but the real HP increase comes from higher RPM. Rather than
the 
stock  6000 RPM, build the engine to do 8000 RPM. With no increase in
chamber 
pressure  you will pick up 1/3 more HP. This sounds simple however there is
a lot 
that  goes into moving the peak of the torque curve from 6000 to 8000. Cam, 
port  sizes, balancing, strong rods, oiling and on and on. If you do the
port 
and cam  to peak at 8000 rpm then only run to 6000 rpm you have wasted a lot
of 
time and  money. You will see some gains but not nearly what you could.
 
Enough rambling for early in the morning.
 
keith



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From JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net  Thu Jul 10 12:14:07 2008
From: JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net (JohnnyRoadster)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:14:07 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for heater part
Message-ID: <00af01c8e2b8$c3a63a50$0401a8c0@JohnLaptop>

Does anyone have the rubber/plastic 'y' piece that goes on top of the heater
box.  I can not find mine to reinstall the heater.  It is for the low
windshield 67.5.  I can use vendors, but was looking for cheaper.


SPL311-19356
http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Thu Jul 10 17:37:38 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:37:38 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 1969 2000 FS in Ohio
Message-ID: <006901c8e2e5$f495b820$ddc12860$@net>

  Posting this for Brian, please respond to him at the email address below.
I wish I had the bucks to buy this one.

 

Paul

Ohio

 

From: Brian Rinehart [mailto:brian300m at hotmail.com] 



It was an original 1600 west coast car, Calif. then Oregon then Ohio, 3rd
owner, excellent cond., strong  performance, beautiful red-copper color, not
original, painted about 13yrs ago, never wrecked,( minor dings but very
straight body )
 
Engine is a 2000cc high performance engine swap, dual side draught Solex
carbs (rebuilt), Carb velocity stacks, Solex performance "B" cam, MSD 6AL
ignition with rev limiter, Electronic distributor convertion (Deans) Exhaust
header, 2" exhaust tubing through out, Stainless steel performance muffler,
Newer recored radiator, Optima battery (new), Alternator (rebuilt),
Performance plug wires 8mm
 
Suspension/ drivetrain-- Koni adjustable shocks (all around), Nismo
performance springs (all around), Nismo performance front sway bar, Urethane
bushings, Cross drilled brake rotors, performance pads, Braided stainless
steel brake lines, 5 speed transmission ( rebuilt by Datsun Motorsports),
lightened flywheel, Nismo performance clutch, 3.9 ratio rear end, new wheel
bearings, powder coated fuel tank
 
Interior--Momo steering wheel, Custom machined steering wheel mount, Sparco
machined aluminum shifter (shortened), Premium leather shifter boot, New
carpet kit, seats ( reupholstered), 
 
Exterior--New premium canvas top (Stayfast), new windshield, hardtop
(Snugtop), Toneau cover (full over seats & steering wheel) and Partial over
rear folded top only.

I forgot to tell you it has 109k on the body, 10k on motor and the asking
price is $8,650

 That's the low down on my ride. 
Thanks for your help, this is truely a great car for a Datsun Freak!!!!
                                       Brian Rinehart
                                       614 554-2001  cell
                                       740 549 4988  home
                                       2725 Bromfield Place
                                       Lewis Center, Ohio 43035

From egustavson at bigpond.com  Thu Jul 10 22:22:06 2008
From: egustavson at bigpond.com (egustavson)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:22:06 +1000
Subject: [Roadsters] Message to Shasta-goers
Message-ID: <14365673.1215750126363.JavaMail.root@nskntwebs06p>

This is from "Eric in Townsville" but now in Victoria BC for the summer.  Our yellow 67 2000 is now out in the Victoria sunshine again, and cruising around BC but unfortunately we will not be able to make it to Shasta this time.  In support, we will be wearing roadster shirts this weekend and making roadster engine noises wherever we can.
Best wishes to the roadster community that keeps the Shasta experience alive, and special hellos to those stalwarts such as Dave, Herb, Stan and you other "colorful" characters who pass around enthusiasm by the bucketful.
Please watch out for our Victoria friends, Tad and Michiko, who left Victoria early this morning, driving something really special.
regards,
Eric in Townsville, QLD
SP311-06003  rhd 1970 1600 (in Townsville, resting)
SRL-311-00183

From larrybraddock at ca.rr.com  Fri Jul 11 00:29:16 2008
From: larrybraddock at ca.rr.com (Larry  Braddock)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:29:16 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] carbs
Message-ID: <2DB52795B0174CE8A17A5035D6328578@owner4d7e0adce>

Any one know of a person in Los Angeles area that could tune the carbs on my
2000?

Larry

From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Fri Jul 11 15:14:20 2008
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:14:20 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Over-sized U-20 piston needed
Message-ID: <004201c8e39b$165a1ea0$6500a8c0@LAP120>

Anyone out there in roadster land have a .020 over-size U-20 piston for sale
or give? I only need ONE,  the set I have has one with a hole in it.
Thanks,
Mike Hudson - '67 Stroker / 5-speed

From printner at att.net  Fri Jul 11 15:26:11 2008
From: printner at att.net (Tim Waltz)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:26:11 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] rigid fuel line restoration
In-Reply-To: <004201c8e39b$165a1ea0$6500a8c0@LAP120>
References: <004201c8e39b$165a1ea0$6500a8c0@LAP120>
Message-ID: <001501c8e39c$bdc77d30$7e1071a6@ASEASExw4400>

A while back, someone posted a source to get rigid fuel lines (like that on
the R16) restored.  I believe they mentioned steam cleaning, re-plating,
etc.

I can't find the source in my records or the archives.  Does anyone recall
it?

Tim
67.5 1600 resto making progress

From drreich48 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 11 16:49:54 2008
From: drreich48 at yahoo.com (DeWayne Reichert)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:49:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] U-Joint part #
Message-ID: <571034.14791.qm@web90603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hey All, I,ve got my tranny and engine ready to go back in. so I was checking
out the u-joints and they feel alittle rough. Does any one have a good part #
for replacements.
 
Thanks
DeWayne
68 spl 311 2000

From jh.bahn at verizon.net  Fri Jul 11 16:56:46 2008
From: jh.bahn at verizon.net (jh.bahn)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:56:46 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] U-Joint part #
References: <571034.14791.qm@web90603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <004001c8e3a9$6570d250$0201a8c0@bahntmj0hfwrs3>

Roadster Universal  Joint       

     

Beck-Arnley      102-0361

AutoZone          1-0027  w/ Zerk fitting

Neapco             1052/1-0027 

NAPA               D RL 1460

Precision           391



JH Bahn

From Scirocco14gp at bellsouth.net  Sat Jul 12 11:08:15 2008
From: Scirocco14gp at bellsouth.net (Mark Coffin)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:08:15 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Side trim wanted for '68 2000
References: <20080712170505H0300fme00e@isp.att.net>
Message-ID: <9DB1DA05-479D-4F59-A5D6-8A3FF4382DC0@bellsouth.net>

Hi all,

I'm about 97% done with my '68 2000 restoration and am in need of  
some good stainless side trim.  It doesn't have to be in concours  
condition (but if you have some NOS stuff I'd like to talk with  
you!).  Something that could be polished and buffed to look nice is  
fine.

Thank you!

Mark Coffin
Asheville, NC

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Sat Jul 12 11:22:30 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 10:22:30 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Looking for someone who can work on a '67 1/2
 Datsun 1600 Roadster in N.C.
Message-ID: <000001c8e443$ddeb3460$99c19d20$@net>

Hi, gang. My link to SEROC is probably outdated, because I've fallen way
behind in keeping my site current.

Is there anyone in the NC area who can help this person?

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: michael lalumondier [mailto:mikelalumondier at charter.net] 
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 6:37 AM
To: me at gordon-glasgow.org
Subject: Looking for someone who can work on a '67 1/2 Datsun 1600 Roadster
in N.C.

Hello Gordon,

I am considering purchasing a '67 1/2 Datsun 1600 Roadster but am  
having difficulty finding anyone around who could possibly service/ 
rebuild the vehicle for me. I live in Asheville, NC and haven't found  
anyone on-line or in our local phone directory. I wanted to know if  
you knew of anyone in the east that can work on this car.

Thanks for your help.

Mike

From scirocco14gp at bellsouth.net  Sat Jul 12 12:40:49 2008
From: scirocco14gp at bellsouth.net (Mark Coffin)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:40:49 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Looking for someone who can work on a '67 1/2
 Datsun 1600 Roadster in N.C. (Gordon Glasgow)
Message-ID: <9B96CCF1-7032-4820-BFAB-DADB0A828E60@bellsouth.net>

I have sent Mike a message directly, but if anyone else is looking  
for someone to help work on their roadster in Western NC, I'd be  
interested in helping out.  I'm semi-retired now, and have the time  
to work on these cars.  I am just about finished with a full frame- 
off restoration on my '68 2000 so I have a pretty intimate knowledge  
of these cars now, and have decades of experience as a race mechanic  
on my own SCCA VW Scirocco racecars.  I grew up with a wrench in my  
hand (wrenching on my dad's racecars as a kid), have a mechanical  
engineering degree and recently retired from the financial services  
industry.

I know how hard it is to find good mechanics these days...

Mark Coffin
Asheville, NC


  Original message:

From: michael lalumondier [mailto:mikelalumondier at charter.net]
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 6:37 AM
To: me at gordon-glasgow.org
Subject: Looking for someone who can work on a '67 1/2 Datsun 1600  
Roadster
in N.C.

Hello Gordon,

I am considering purchasing a '67 1/2 Datsun 1600 Roadster but am
having difficulty finding anyone around who could possibly service/
rebuild the vehicle for me. I live in Asheville, NC and haven't found
anyone on-line or in our local phone directory. I wanted to know if
you knew of anyone in the east that can work on this car.

Thanks for your help.

Mike

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Sat Jul 12 13:45:51 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:45:51 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Looking for someone who can work on a '67 1/2
 Datsun 1600 Roadster in N.C. (Gordon Glasgow)
In-Reply-To: <9B96CCF1-7032-4820-BFAB-DADB0A828E60@bellsouth.net>
References: <9B96CCF1-7032-4820-BFAB-DADB0A828E60@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <8CAB26F0613E622-13C0-7D7D@webmail-nd10.sysops.aol.com>

 We'd love to see a link to some pics of your car. Sounds like you have done a nice job on your 68

Linda


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Coffin <scirocco14gp at bellsouth.net>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 11:40 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: Looking for someone who can work on a '67 1/2 Datsun 1600 Roadster in N.C. (Gordon Glasgow)










I have sent Mike a message directly, but if anyone else is looking  
for someone to help work on their roadster in Western NC, I'd be  
interested in helping out.  I'm semi-retired now, and have the time  
to work on these cars.  I am just about finished with a full frame- 
off restoration on my '68 2000 so I have a pretty intimate knowledge  
of these cars now, and have decades of experience as a race mechanic  
on my own SCCA VW Scirocco racecars.  I grew up with a wrench in my  
hand (wrenching on my dad's racecars as a kid), have a mechanical  
engineering degree and recently retired from the financial services  
industry.

I know how hard it is to find good mechanics these days...

Mark Coffin
Asheville, NC

From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 13 14:23:20 2008
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:23:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] cover for roadster
Message-ID: <307072.88271.qm@web51112.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

What is the cover that covers the seating area, at dash level?
 
A tonneau cover?
 
Is this available for a 69 2000?
 
JimG
NJ

From gogineni.alvin at gene.com  Sun Jul 13 15:11:43 2008
From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:11:43 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Mt. Shasta Show pictures!!!
Message-ID: <003d01c8e52d$0d224d60$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com>

Full album here:

http://rides.webshots.com/album/564100971dUiCcW

 

Our trip to the roadster at Mt. Shasta started off with a track day at
Thunderhill in Willows, CA. This was an event put on to benfit the Susan G.
Komen Breast Cancer Foundation. SKie were smoky and temps thankfully never
got above 100 degrees, I had a blast in the Z. The only vintage car I found
was this very clean BMW 2002, roundtail...

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2198891530103240641TlWFwE

I was wondering what was under the hood and it was a late-model M3 motor!!!
The owner wa stired of fiddling with the old motor:

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2859998860103240641pvwAQS

 

We drove up to Shasta and temps rose to about 107 through Redding...fires
were visible from the 5, scary:

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2386811280103240641NrfiAD

 

We camped Friday night in the Z33:

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2809651200103240641ACylVd

 

Temperature at the Shastice park was perfect, high 80's. Turnout was very ow
this year, about 22 roadsters :( 

Some highlights from the show:

 

Michael Spreadbury's absolutley GORGEOUS '66 SPL with a complete S15 SR20DE:

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2812045430103240641uqJEnv

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2229915880103240641zXTdhR

 

Just another impressive, clean, well-thought out, detailed masterpiece. From
the SSR wheels to fanatically clean engine bay...I mean look how clean the
tail pipe is from the catalytic converter...high drool factor.

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2306640350103240641sxFxmJ

Look how clean the firewall is!

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2506815470103240641vwISTF

Can anyone tell what headlights these are from? :D 

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2718542210103240641TyuuoR

 

There was a Nissan Figaro!!!

Look at the pictures you'll be amazed at how many details are from our
roadsters:

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2441391730103240641CglWQY

 

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2279313350103240641xcvgzg

 

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2506448490103240641ecOYZA

 

Hydrogen-enhanced roadster:

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2371143420103240641IfMsrM

 

Black Classic Instruments gauges! Looks like 67.5!!

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2867844270103240641wNjRKI

 

Mike Braaten's beautiful flat dash, '70 1600 with an S15 SR20:

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2521803180103240641EYTlTP

 

It was good to see familiar faces, let's get more folks out there for the
25th anniv. next year!

 

Group Photo, David Premo(without roadster) is sitting front center since he
won best of show last year :lol: 

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2133920120103240641uOvaNM

From jklingman at stny.rr.com  Sun Jul 13 17:13:25 2008
From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:13:25 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters On Parade
Message-ID: <000b01c8e53e$0dc868b0$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>

The 1st Annual Roadsters On Parade in Bristol, VT, had a typical Datsun start,
a bit rought to start but lots of fun when it was up and running. We started
out expecting several roadsters and had one for the parade. After a winter's
work Spike is still at the paint shop. Arrived in Bristol on the 3rd without
Spike to learn George Landis' '69 1600, Pearl, is in the shop. We took George
over to pick up Pearl at a very excellent motor sport shop, bad news...bad
valve. Good news... learned the owner works on another Datsun roadster from
Vergennes, VT, a few miles away. Anybody know who owns that roadster?
  Next problem...a friend had flown up from TX to dress up as Elvis and ride
in Pearl in the parade.  A roadster on the trailer is still a roadster in the
parade. Next problem...a little oversight, no one had registered Pearl for the
parade so we were on the side lines. George and John got enterprising and
approached the local PT Cruiser club that had lined up for the parade in front
of us. Pearl was made an honorary PT ( pretty terrific) Cruiser for the day,
complete with the club's red, white and blue tinsel garland wrapped around
Elvis, so we pulled in behind the Cruisers. Awesome...George and John were in
the truck blasting Elvis songs, Elvis and Priscilla perched on the edge of
Pearl's rear deck hamming it up, I got to "drive" Pearl.
   Fireworks on the 3rd, outhouse races ( yes, you read that right) down Main
Street early on the 4th followed by the parade, super picnic supper at the
Dream House Country Inn on the 5th along with the great drives and the amazing
amount of neat free stuff to do in VT made it a super weekend. Thank you to
Susan and George for putting this together.
   Gloria and John Klingman
   Sidney, NY '68 2000 a.k.a. Spike

From slowboy at cox.net  Sun Jul 13 19:10:26 2008
From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:10:26 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters On Parade
References: <000b01c8e53e$0dc868b0$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>
Message-ID: <000401c8e54e$66d209b0$0201a8c0@m7170n>

My glasses were off and I thought it said Roadsters on Parole!

;o)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Klingman" <jklingman at stny.rr.com>
To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 4:13 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters On Parade


> The 1st Annual Roadsters On Parade in Bristol, 

From jklingman at stny.rr.com  Sun Jul 13 19:39:10 2008
From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:39:10 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters On Parade
References: <000b01c8e53e$0dc868b0$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>
	<000401c8e54e$66d209b0$0201a8c0@m7170n>
Message-ID: <000e01c8e552$69e937f0$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>

Well, there were chains involved
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "SlowBoy" <slowboy at cox.net>
To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadsters On Parade


> My glasses were off and I thought it said Roadsters on Parole!
> 
> ;o)
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Klingman" <jklingman at stny.rr.com>
> To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 4:13 PM
> Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters On Parade
> 
> 
>> The 1st Annual Roadsters On Parade in Bristol, 
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From evanstratum at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 13 20:00:06 2008
From: evanstratum at yahoo.com (Eva Van Stratum)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:00:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop on Ebay
Message-ID: <705720.19032.qm@web52312.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

After ignoring my hardtop since I got it, I put it on Ebay today with a $100
min.  Need the garage space.  If it doesn't sell and someone in the area wants
to make a minimal offer for it, we can probably work something out. 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270255521191
 
 
 
Eva
1969 SRL 'Cricket' (yes the noise from the glove box at certain RPMs).

From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jul 13 21:07:21 2008
From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:07:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Slicing up a transmission Tunnel - Reasons?
Message-ID: <836868.17988.qm@web81703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Alvin,
   
  Thanks for posting the pictures from the Shasta Meet this year. 107 degrees in California for the meet. And to think, It was cooler in Texas at only 101 degrees.
   
  Checked out a 64 Fairlady 3-seater earlier today. Original running engine with its original 64 non-synchro transmission. Yet for some weird reason the transmission tunnel had been completely sliced open on both sides and on top of the tunnel by the shifter. 
   
  I can't understand why the transmission tunnel was hacked?
   
  Now the early spl310 transmission actually has a transfluid dipstick on the top of the transmission. If you are looking from the underside of a spl310, you won't find a plug-hole for filling the transmission. Could a previous owner have actually sliced the entire trans tunnel open, just to fill the transmssion?
   
  Any ideas why someong would destroy the trans tunnel, yet retain the stock engine/trans?
   
  Dan Zubkoff
  Houston, TX

From roadsters311 at rogers.com  Mon Jul 14 14:01:17 2008
From: roadsters311 at rogers.com (Al Boettcher)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:01:17 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Compression vers Octane
Message-ID: <000901c8e5ec$60cded10$6401a8c0@datsunspcb0fcp>

I would like to know from you racers or owners out there with high compression
engines
as to how high can you go on the street with 94 octane gas . Down the road I
am going
to build a motor and concidering upgrading the compression to 10:1 or 11:1
compression
for more torque . Any thoughts would be apprieciated.
Happy motoring
Al Boetther 68 solex.
Ottawa Ontario.

From jsk977 at optonline.net  Mon Jul 14 12:12:51 2008
From: jsk977 at optonline.net (Jerry Krakauer)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:12:51 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Compression vers Octane
References: <000901c8e5ec$60cded10$6401a8c0@datsunspcb0fcp>
Message-ID: <45AB4E8642DA48BAB375A1A63E09C930@HP1450>

Al,

My experiences, FWIW, from way back. My first BSR U20 engine rebuild used 
1600 domed pistons fly cut for valve clearance, +.040 bore and the head was 
cut .0005, resulting in a compression ratio of around 12.5:1.  The only way 
to avoid knocking/detonation was with Sunoco 260, which if I remember 
correctly was 103 octane(RON), with an occasional shot of 100/145 avgas. 
With today's R+M/2 octane method that would be about 96 -97 or unobtainable.

My second BSR rebuild went back to +.040 U20 flat top pistons and some 
additional head milling, resulting in 36.5cc combustion chamber volume plus 
10cc for head gasket and piston to deck area, which computes to 11.7:1. 
This engine would run on any brand premium, which if I recall averaged 
around 97 - 98 octane(RON) or 93 - 94 today. So with the range your talking 
about, I don't think it should be a problem.


Jerry Krakauer
SRL311 00099





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Al Boettcher" <roadsters311 at rogers.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 4:01 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Compression vers Octane


>I would like to know from you racers or owners out there with high 
>compression
> engines
> as to how high can you go on the street with 94 octane gas . Down the road 
> I
> am going
> to build a motor and concidering upgrading the compression to 10:1 or 11:1
> compression
> for more torque . Any thoughts would be apprieciated.
> Happy motoring
> Al Boetther 68 solex.
> Ottawa Ontario.

From printner at att.net  Mon Jul 14 13:10:50 2008
From: printner at att.net (Tim Waltz)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:10:50 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Rigid lines
In-Reply-To: <45AB4E8642DA48BAB375A1A63E09C930@HP1450>
References: <000901c8e5ec$60cded10$6401a8c0@datsunspcb0fcp>
	<45AB4E8642DA48BAB375A1A63E09C930@HP1450>
Message-ID: <00f101c8e5e5$544af850$7e1071a6@ASEASExw4400>

Has anyone used Inline Tube or Classic Tube for rigid brake, fuel, and
clutch lines?


http://www.inlinetube.com/

http://www.classictube.com/


Any words of wisdom on OEM steel vs stainless?   I've heard more people have
leak problems with stainless...

Tim
67.5 1600 resto

From tputland at charter.net  Mon Jul 14 13:54:35 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:54:35 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Rigid lines
In-Reply-To: <00f101c8e5e5$544af850$7e1071a6@ASEASExw4400>
Message-ID: <20080714155435.ROQLG.171065.root@fepweb14>

Please post replies to the list....or at least CC me please. I am going to have to rebuild the brakes on my SRL now that I finally have it out of storage and am considering what I want/need to do.

Thanks!
--


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- Tim Waltz <printner at att.net> wrote: 

=============
Has anyone used Inline Tube or Classic Tube for rigid brake, fuel, and
clutch lines?


http://www.inlinetube.com/

http://www.classictube.com/


Any words of wisdom on OEM steel vs stainless?   I've heard more people have
leak problems with stainless...

Tim
67.5 1600 resto
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From jake7140 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 14 14:54:18 2008
From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:54:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Rocker arm oil restrictor screw adjustment
In-Reply-To: <mailman.23.1215799202.13771.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <838213.77076.qm@web37905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

So this past weekend I go under the valve cover to replace a rocker arm stud
that I had been replaced with a bolt one race weekend.  Lo and behold, I find
the rocker arm oil restriction screw just laying around waiting to go down
some small hole.  Yikes.

I think it's been discussed here before, but I cannot find the thread.  Cannot
find any mention of it in the manual either.

1) How is it adjusted?  I started at 2 turns out from bottom.
2) Should it have a lock nut on it? (I put one on) and thus should I be
looking for one floating around too?  I have looked, but did not see any
additional parts (including the addtional rocker arm tower stud that was
missing a nut, though I found a washer.)

arfgggghh.

Thanks for any help.

Steve Steve's Racing web site
  www.NoNameRacing.com
Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society home
  www.elrss.com

From gregs672liter at netzero.net  Mon Jul 14 15:00:39 2008
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:00:39 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] Compression vers Octane
Message-ID: <20080714.140039.12238.1@webmail16.vgs.untd.com>

My current engine is 11.7 to 1 with Arias forged pistons, ported head, good
streetable cam a bit more lift and duration than Solex 1, GB dizzy running 28
degrees total advance (starting at 20), 45mm Dellorto carbs with 37 chokes
with cold air intake, Jacobs pro-street ignition, header, 2.5 inch exhaust.
In hot weather it can knock a bit if I get on it hard with 92 gas at lower
rpms.  I have a few gallons of Moroso octane boost (can't get it anymore, but
a friend had access) that mixed as suggested will take care of it.  Outside
temp has a lot to do with it in my opinion.
Greg Burrows
67 2000
Bonney Lake, WA

-- Jerry Krakauer <jsk977 at optonline.net> wrote:
Al,

My experiences, FWIW, from way back. My first BSR U20 engine rebuild used
1600 domed pistons fly cut for valve clearance, +.040 bore and the head was
cut .0005, resulting in a compression ratio of around 12.5:1.  The only way
to avoid knocking/detonation was with Sunoco 260, which if I remember
correctly was 103 octane(RON), with an occasional shot of 100/145 avgas.
With today's R+M/2 octane method that would be about 96 -97 or unobtainable.

My second BSR rebuild went back to +.040 U20 flat top pistons and some
additional head milling, resulting in 36.5cc combustion chamber volume plus
10cc for head gasket and piston to deck area, which computes to 11.7:1.
This engine would run on any brand premium, which if I recall averaged
around 97 - 98 octane(RON) or 93 - 94 today. So with the range your talking
about, I don't think it should be a problem.


Jerry Krakauer
SRL311 00099





----- Original Message -----
From: "Al Boettcher" <roadsters311 at rogers.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 4:01 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Compression vers Octane


>I would like to know from you racers or owners out there with high
>compression
> engines
> as to how high can you go on the street with 94 octane gas . Down the road
> I
> am going
> to build a motor and concidering upgrading the compression to 10:1 or 11:1
> compression
> for more torque . Any thoughts would be apprieciated.
> Happy motoring
> Al Boetther 68 solex.
> Ottawa Ontario.

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From tedtsimx at bright.net  Tue Jul 15 06:16:05 2008
From: tedtsimx at bright.net (Ted Schumacher)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:16:05 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Rigid lines
In-Reply-To: <20080714155435.ROQLG.171065.root@fepweb14>
References: <20080714155435.ROQLG.171065.root@fepweb14>
Message-ID: <487C9505.7080900@bright.net>

Tim wrote:
> Please post replies to the list....or at least CC me please. I am going to have to rebuild the brakes on my SRL now that I finally have it out of storage and am considering what I want/need to do.
>
> Thanks!
> --
>
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
>
> ---- Tim Waltz <printner at att.net> wrote: 
>
> =============
> Has anyone used Inline Tube or Classic Tube for rigid brake, fuel, and
> clutch lines?
>
>
> http://www.inlinetube.com/
>
> http://www.classictube.com/
>
>
> Any words of wisdom on OEM steel vs stainless?   I've heard more people have
> leak problems with stainless...
>
> Tim
> 67.5 1600 resto
> You are subscribed as tputland at charter.net
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From drreich48 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 15 19:28:24 2008
From: drreich48 at yahoo.com (DeWayne Reichert)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:28:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] parts search
Message-ID: <439272.30620.qm@web39105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Wahoo she's up and running. The tranny works great and it almost purr's
(alittle sputter now and than). So now its time for the nickle and dime
stuff. I'm looking for the hood support rod for our 68. The 2x2 I was using
slid out of place and you guessed it, down came the hood right in my little
knogan. So if you have an extra PLEASE let me know.
 
Thanks
DeWayne
68, spl 311 - 1605

From drreich48 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 15 21:30:35 2008
From: drreich48 at yahoo.com (DeWayne Reichert)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:30:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] parts search
Message-ID: <660594.45043.qm@web39104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Wahoo she's up and running. The tranny works great and it almost purr's
(alittle sputter now and than). So now its time for the nickle and dime
stuff. I'm looking for the hood support rod for our 68. The 2x2 I was using
slid out of place and you guessed it, down came the hood right in my little
knogan. So if you have an extra PLEASE let me know.
 
Thanks
DeWayne
68, spl 311 - 1605

From bubwin at mts.net  Wed Jul 16 12:36:01 2008
From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:36:01 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for someone to check car in Sandy Utah
Message-ID: <5A1E8171455046F29E04E8769D2F040B@ownerPC>

Is there anyone on the list near Sandy, Utah who can check out a 510 for me?
Car is listed on e-bay, and the auction ends in about 3 days.  I would
appreciate it if you contact me off list at bubwin at mts.net

Thanks
Bob Winslade
Lorette, Manitoba
Canada
1966-1600 Missy
1967-1600 Roadster

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Wed Jul 16 21:59:26 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:59:26 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Slicing up a transmission Tunnel - Reasons?
In-Reply-To: <836868.17988.qm@web81703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <836868.17988.qm@web81703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003301c8e7c1$82367310$86a35930$@net>

Was it sliced up enough to pull the trans without pulling the engine? I
heard about that on a race car once. They made the tunnel removable so they
could pull the trans out through the interior.

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Dan Zubkoff
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 8:07 PM
To: datsun roadster
Subject: [Roadsters] Slicing up a transmission Tunnel - Reasons?

Alvin,
   
  Thanks for posting the pictures from the Shasta Meet this year. 107
degrees in California for the meet. And to think, It was cooler in Texas at
only 101 degrees.
   
  Checked out a 64 Fairlady 3-seater earlier today. Original running engine
with its original 64 non-synchro transmission. Yet for some weird reason the
transmission tunnel had been completely sliced open on both sides and on top
of the tunnel by the shifter. 
   
  I can't understand why the transmission tunnel was hacked?
   
  Now the early spl310 transmission actually has a transfluid dipstick on
the top of the transmission. If you are looking from the underside of a
spl310, you won't find a plug-hole for filling the transmission. Could a
previous owner have actually sliced the entire trans tunnel open, just to
fill the transmssion?
   
  Any ideas why someong would destroy the trans tunnel, yet retain the stock
engine/trans?
   
  Dan Zubkoff
  Houston, TX

From dato1500 at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 16 22:10:16 2008
From: dato1500 at hotmail.com (Peter Jones)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:10:16 +0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Slicing up a transmission Tunnel - Reasons?
In-Reply-To: <003301c8e7c1$82367310$86a35930$@net>
References: <836868.17988.qm@web81703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<003301c8e7c1$82367310$86a35930$@net>
Message-ID: <BLU141-W12B06E300EB35ED61E8220D58E0@phx.gbl>

My 64 was the same. The guy who owned it was too lazy to undo the gearstick
when he pulled the motor for a rebuild.

Regards
Peter j> From: gsglasgow at comcast.net> To: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net;
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:59:26 -0700>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Slicing up a transmission Tunnel - Reasons?> > Was it
sliced up enough to pull the trans without pulling the engine? I> heard about
that on a race car once. They made the tunnel removable so they> could pull
the trans out through the interior.> > Gordon Glasgow> > -----Original
Message-----> From:
datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net>
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On>
Behalf Of Dan Zubkoff> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 8:07 PM> To: datsun
roadster> Subject: [Roadsters] Slicing up a transmission Tunnel - Reasons?> >
Alvin,> > Thanks for posting the pictures from the Shasta Meet this year. 107>
degrees in California for the meet. And to think, It was cooler in Texas at>
only 101 degrees.> > Checked out a 64 Fairlady 3-seater earlier today.
Original running engine> with its original 64 non-synchro transmission. Yet
for some weird reason the> transmission tunnel had been completely sliced open
on both sides and on top> of the tunnel by the shifter. > > I can't understand
why the transmission tunnel was hacked?> > Now the early spl310 transmission
actually has a transfluid dipstick on> the top of the transmission. If you are
looking from the underside of a> spl310, you won't find a plug-hole for
filling the transmission. Could a> previous owner have actually sliced the
entire trans tunnel open, just to> fill the transmssion?> > Any ideas why
someong would destroy the trans tunnel, yet retain the stock> engine/trans?> >
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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Thu Jul 17 10:08:07 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:08:07 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but Datsuns
Message-ID: <009601c8e827$4e5040b0$eaf0c210$@net>

  About ten years ago, on Yahoo's auction site, I bid on and won a cool
looking DATSUN racing jacket.  When I got it, it was just as nice as
advertised, a beautiful dark blue, but somehow I missed the part in the
write up that said it was a child size.  So it has hung it the back of my
closet since then.

  Well all that changed last night around 8:45 when my daughter-in-law gave
birth to a beautiful baby girl!  Maya Katherine was 7 pounds 4 ounces and 20
inches.  This is our first grandchild so you know she will be spoiled.  And
I haven't seen our son, Dan, smile like that since he saw Kate enter the
church and walk down the aisle at their wedding.  Mom, dad and baby are all
doing well today.  Maya's grandparents are busy bragging!

 

 

Proud to be Grandpa,

 

Paul

Ohio

From tputland at charter.net  Thu Jul 17 10:31:48 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 9:31:48 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but Datsuns
In-Reply-To: <009601c8e827$4e5040b0$eaf0c210$@net>
Message-ID: <20080717123148.9SEYF.280171.root@fepweb15>

Congats Paul. 

Since my oldest just graduated from HS, this makes me feel rather young! And I thank you for that!!

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote: 

=============
  About ten years ago, on Yahoo's auction site, I bid on and won a cool
looking DATSUN racing jacket.  When I got it, it was just as nice as
advertised, a beautiful dark blue, but somehow I missed the part in the
write up that said it was a child size.  So it has hung it the back of my
closet since then.

  Well all that changed last night around 8:45 when my daughter-in-law gave
birth to a beautiful baby girl!  Maya Katherine was 7 pounds 4 ounces and 20
inches.  This is our first grandchild so you know she will be spoiled.  And
I haven't seen our son, Dan, smile like that since he saw Kate enter the
church and walk down the aisle at their wedding.  Mom, dad and baby are all
doing well today.  Maya's grandparents are busy bragging!

 

 

Proud to be Grandpa,

 

Paul

Ohio
________________________________________

From bubwin at mts.net  Thu Jul 17 11:11:37 2008
From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:11:37 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but Datsuns
In-Reply-To: <009601c8e827$4e5040b0$eaf0c210$@net>
References: <009601c8e827$4e5040b0$eaf0c210$@net>
Message-ID: <189D974CE77344F5B1CF0C6C5365B077@ownerPC>

Congrats, Paul!
I have 2 granddaughters, born 25 days apart, and are both 3.  It's better 
than when your kids are born, because you know what to watch for as they 
grow, and you are more aware of each step and milestone, since you aren't 
pre-occupied with all the parenting stuff.

Enjoy, and best wishes for your son and his family!

Bob Winslade
1966-1600 Missy
1967-1600 Bender


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net>
To: "bluebirds" <bluebirds at bluebirds.datsun510.com>; "'datsun-roadsters'" 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:08 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but Datsuns


>  About ten years ago, on Yahoo's auction site, I bid on and won a cool
> looking DATSUN racing jacket.  When I got it, it was just as nice as
> advertised, a beautiful dark blue, but somehow I missed the part in the
> write up that said it was a child size.  So it has hung it the back of my
> closet since then.
>
>  Well all that changed last night around 8:45 when my daughter-in-law gave
> birth to a beautiful baby girl!  Maya Katherine was 7 pounds 4 ounces and 
> 20
> inches.  This is our first grandchild so you know she will be spoiled. 
> And
> I haven't seen our son, Dan, smile like that since he saw Kate enter the
> church and walk down the aisle at their wedding.  Mom, dad and baby are 
> all
> doing well today.  Maya's grandparents are busy bragging!
>
>
>
>
>
> Proud to be Grandpa,
>
>
>
> Paul
>
> Ohio
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From jklingman at stny.rr.com  Thu Jul 17 11:33:52 2008
From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:33:52 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but Datsuns
References: <009601c8e827$4e5040b0$eaf0c210$@net>
	<189D974CE77344F5B1CF0C6C5365B077@ownerPC>
Message-ID: <000a01c8e833$48082a90$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>

My 4 grand daughters 9, 8, (NC) 7 and 5  (NY) love the roadster and think 
the best part of the visit is riding shotgun with Grandpa. Taking turns can 
be an issue.
  John Klingman
  Sidney, NY '68 2000 "Spike"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bubba" <bubwin at mts.net>
To: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net>; "bluebirds" 
<bluebirds at bluebirds.datsun510.com>; "'datsun-roadsters'" 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but Datsuns


> Congrats, Paul!
> I have 2 granddaughters, born 25 days apart, and are both 3.  It's better
> than when your kids are born, because you know what to watch for as they
> grow, and you are more aware of each step and milestone, since you aren't
> pre-occupied with all the parenting stuff.
>
> Enjoy, and best wishes for your son and his family!
>
> Bob Winslade
> 1966-1600 Missy
> 1967-1600 Bender
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net>
> To: "bluebirds" <bluebirds at bluebirds.datsun510.com>; "'datsun-roadsters'"
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:08 AM
> Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but Datsuns
>
>
>>  About ten years ago, on Yahoo's auction site, I bid on and won a cool
>> looking DATSUN racing jacket.  When I got it, it was just as nice as
>> advertised, a beautiful dark blue, but somehow I missed the part in the
>> write up that said it was a child size.  So it has hung it the back of my
>> closet since then.
>>
>>  Well all that changed last night around 8:45 when my daughter-in-law 
>> gave
>> birth to a beautiful baby girl!  Maya Katherine was 7 pounds 4 ounces and
>> 20
>> inches.  This is our first grandchild so you know she will be spoiled.
>> And
>> I haven't seen our son, Dan, smile like that since he saw Kate enter the
>> church and walk down the aisle at their wedding.  Mom, dad and baby are
>> all
>> doing well today.  Maya's grandparents are busy bragging!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Proud to be Grandpa,
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> Ohio
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From tputland at charter.net  Thu Jul 17 12:13:21 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:13:21 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but Datsuns
In-Reply-To: <000a01c8e833$48082a90$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>
Message-ID: <20080717141321.KZCTS.282893.root@fepweb15>

Ah, back in the day, when we were both small enough, my brother and I used to ride in the back jump "seat". Too bad you can't legally do that now. At least I assume it is illegal.

Tim

---- John Klingman <jklingman at stny.rr.com> wrote: 

=============
My 4 grand daughters 9, 8, (NC) 7 and 5  (NY) love the roadster and think 
the best part of the visit is riding shotgun with Grandpa. Taking turns can 
be an issue.
  John Klingman
  Sidney, NY '68 2000 "Spike"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bubba" <bubwin at mts.net>
To: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net>; "bluebirds" 
<bluebirds at bluebirds.datsun510.com>; "'datsun-roadsters'" 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but Datsuns


> Congrats, Paul!
> I have 2 granddaughters, born 25 days apart, and are both 3.  It's better
> than when your kids are born, because you know what to watch for as they
> grow, and you are more aware of each step and milestone, since you aren't
> pre-occupied with all the parenting stuff.
>
> Enjoy, and best wishes for your son and his family!
>
> Bob Winslade
> 1966-1600 Missy
> 1967-1600 Bender
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net>
> To: "bluebirds" <bluebirds at bluebirds.datsun510.com>; "'datsun-roadsters'"
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:08 AM
> Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but Datsuns
>
>
>>  About ten years ago, on Yahoo's auction site, I bid on and won a cool
>> looking DATSUN racing jacket.  When I got it, it was just as nice as
>> advertised, a beautiful dark blue, but somehow I missed the part in the
>> write up that said it was a child size.  So it has hung it the back of my
>> closet since then.
>>
>>  Well all that changed last night around 8:45 when my daughter-in-law 
>> gave
>> birth to a beautiful baby girl!  Maya Katherine was 7 pounds 4 ounces and
>> 20
>> inches.  This is our first grandchild so you know she will be spoiled.
>> And
>> I haven't seen our son, Dan, smile like that since he saw Kate enter the
>> church and walk down the aisle at their wedding.  Mom, dad and baby are
>> all
>> doing well today.  Maya's grandparents are busy bragging!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Proud to be Grandpa,
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> Ohio
>> ________________________________________

From mkall at q-marketing.com  Thu Jul 17 12:17:18 2008
From: mkall at q-marketing.com (Matt  Kall)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:17:18 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
Message-ID: <ODEMLOGKJCGHMNFMKEFBAEFCKFAA.mkall@q-marketing.com>

 I am looking for used  s/brake, choke, fan, flasher knobs for a 1969 2000.

Anyone who might have please let me know
Matt

From chalsted at comcast.net  Fri Jul 18 06:24:31 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:24:31 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 2000 matching # project LA area for sale
Message-ID: <006901c8e8d1$4426edf0$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

I recently purchased #402 from Jon Frampton and am getting ready to have it
shipped back east. I am making it available for 2 weeks only out there, same
price I bought it for only with used gauges and visors and a smog head. I
still think it is a tremendous deal for $4k, it's worth $5500 to me to have it
back here on the east coast or I wouldn't have made the purchase. it's a very
buildable matching number car. I would also consider selling with the restored
gauges, new visors, and uncut non-smog head I got with it for additional $$. I
do have use for these on my other 67.5 2000's though.  I am aware that folks
were both calling and e-mailing Jon trying to talk him out of our deal on the
car, primarily as a result of one individual claiming I tried to "gouge" him
offering to sell him the car. I'm sure he neglected to mention the following:
he had contacted me the day before Jon put his car up for sale expressing a
wish to fulfill a lifelong dream of owning a 67.5 2000. when Jon posted the
car, I forwarded his e-mail to this individual and told them they should buy
the car. I forwarded their e-mail to Jon and told him they wanted one, and
would probably buy his. hours later when Jon sent me the photos, I went to the
trouble to look up the person who wanted one on Yahoo Peoplesearch and called
and left him a message that the car was a great deal and he should jump on it
immediately before someone else bought it. what more could I do for him?  I
told Jon I'd give him what he was asking for the car if they didn't buy it if
we could make arrangements on the payment.  when this person couldn't make up
their mind by the next day Jon made the deal with me and I PayPal'd him a
deposit.  I then got an e-mail from undecided saying he was sad he'd waited
too long and missed out on the car... told him I'd bought it and was willing
to sell for the same price to him only with 3 part substitutions but I'd throw
in a set of original seats. he said he'd send out a deposit that day. later in
the day he decided he just couldn't get over that I would "win" some parts on
the deal and offered me $100 to back out of the deal with Jon and take it over
himself which I declined. his next step was to go around badmouthing me,
saying I was trying to gouge him... so those are the facts, I apologize for
the extra bandwidth if this is irrelevant to you... the car is an excellent
buy at that price, all politics aside. contact me offlist if interested.  I'll
post pretty much the same info on 311s.org  clock is ticking.........

Craig Halsted
540-635-5752

From stamuki at gmail.com  Fri Jul 18 10:13:00 2008
From: stamuki at gmail.com (D Riedel)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:13:00 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Gauge voltage regulator
Message-ID: <ae1f75970807180913x6fcfa4b3u86dc0c1609990245@mail.gmail.com>

My fuel and temperature gauges are both inoperative.  I understand
that the gauge voltage regulator is the likely culprit, correct?  I
was wondering if anyone has successfully used the 510 part (one of the
vendors suggests that it can be done).  Is there a downside?  I can
get the 510 part for $27 versus $85ish for the roadster version.

I'm going to have a look at the one I have... clean up the contacts,
etc., but I'm also looking ahead at a replacement.

-- 
Dave Riedel
'69 2000
Victoria, BC

From graemes at internode.on.net  Fri Jul 18 18:03:36 2008
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:33:36 +0930
Subject: [Roadsters] Gauge voltage regulator
In-Reply-To: <ae1f75970807180913x6fcfa4b3u86dc0c1609990245@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ae1f75970807180913x6fcfa4b3u86dc0c1609990245@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000301c8e932$e4414ae0$236fa8c0@desktop>

 Hi Dave,
Loved my few days in Victoria and Vancouver BC at exactly this time of year
in 2004!

There are several alternative regulators suitable for this task.
A recent discussion on 311s.org on this topic mentioned a 3 pin electronic
VR that was suitable.
Check out this link: -
http://tinyurl.com/6yyohy
A 510 VR is probably OK but you may need to adjust yourself to the reading
the gauges produce.
By that I mean electrical gauges are vague in their operation and what is
shown as a "normal" Temperature for example is to a large degree dependent
on the VR and gauge characteristics.
However, once you determine what the reading is for a normal operating
temperature, that becomes your reference and we move on!
"Gauge voltage regulator
My fuel and temperature gauges are both inoperative.  I understand that the
gauge voltage regulator is the likely culprit, correct?  I was wondering if
anyone has successfully used the 510 part (one of the vendors suggests that
it can be done).  Is there a downside?  I can get the 510 part for $27
versus $85ish for the roadster version.
I'm going to have a look at the one I have... clean up the contacts, etc.,
but I'm also looking ahead at a replacement.
Dave Riedel

From vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 18 20:41:49 2008
From: vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com (Vince Strazzabosco)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:41:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Rough Value of '66 1600?
In-Reply-To: <006901c8e8d1$4426edf0$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
Message-ID: <280130.80359.qm@web33507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I just recently joined this list as I'm trying to buy a '66 1600 Roadster that is sitting outside a local junkyard.  I'm getting the idea that the seller may have an inflated idea of the car's value.

It is very complete and original, but much of the chrome and pot metal is pitted to some extent.  It has a title, I'm told, and 68k miles.  It's been sitting there for a while, all tires are flat.  There's no pressure in the brake system or the clutch.  Supposedly the clutch master or slave needed to be replaced.  The car supposedly ran when parked, and I saw nothing to indicate that it didn't.  Depends on just how long it's been sitting, though.

It's been sloppily repainted years ago.  It has rust.  The front fenders swing in the breeze if you pull them, there's some holes towards the back of the rockers, and some bubbles in the rear wheelwell arches.  The trunk is locked, so I haven't been able to dig in there.  The floorpans seem to be good, but I really can't get under the car much.

Rust doesn't scare me, as I have a 1970 BMW 2002ti and a 1974 Alfa Spider as well as a couple of old trucks.  All "rescue" projects.  Mechanicals are easy.

The seller's supposed to call me when he has the key and I can check out the car.  I'll be checking on it tomorrow.  I'm attaching a picture, don't know if it'll go through.

I'm curious if anyone can tell me what is a fair guesstimate of the car's worth as a project, not as a parts car.  I'm all too familiar with the old "It's worth what someone wants to pay", but not all sellers understand that.  I would hate to be thinking $500 if the seller would be right to be thinking $2000.

Comments welcome and appreciated!

vince
Naperville, IL

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From tputland at charter.net  Sat Jul 19 07:50:54 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 9:50:54 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] wiper blades
Message-ID: <20080719095054.RH10E.23350.root@fepweb13>

I seem to remember someone posting a NAPA auto parts number for wiper blades. I searched on 311s.org but cannot find what I was looking for. I did find a couple part numbers but one is for a short windscreen car and the other does not look like what I am looking for. 

Does any one remember or know this NAPA part #? Or know of one other than "Bosch WBA 709"?

Thanks

Tim

From chalsted at comcast.net  Sat Jul 19 08:10:27 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:10:27 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] link to webshots album SRL311-00402
Message-ID: <006e01c8e9a9$329835c0$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

http://community.webshots.com/user/672000

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sat Jul 19 08:33:09 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:33:09 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Rough Value of '66 1600?
In-Reply-To: <280130.80359.qm@web33507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CFAC3CA9DD4E4B72BFF52880319B1271@xp>

Vince,

Very few mailing lists allow attachments, so best would be post the pic(s)
(Flikr, Webshots, Photobucket, etc) and provide a link.

With the information provided and no pics, sounds like a $500 project to me.

The other main roadster resource is the 311s.org website
<http://www.311s.org>

                    `  ___  '
Pete               -  (O o)  -
------------------ooO--(_)--Ooo----
Lake Forest Park, WA
1966 1600 SPL311
1966 L20B WPL411

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Vince Strazzabosco
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 7:42 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Rough Value of '66 1600?


I just recently joined this list as I'm trying to buy a '66 1600 Roadster
that is sitting outside a local junkyard.  I'm getting the idea that the
seller may have an inflated idea of the car's value.

It is very complete and original, but much of the chrome and pot metal is
pitted to some extent.  It has a title, I'm told, and 68k miles.  It's been
sitting there for a while, all tires are flat.  There's no pressure in the
brake system or the clutch.  Supposedly the clutch master or slave needed to
be replaced.  The car supposedly ran when parked, and I saw nothing to
indicate that it didn't.  Depends on just how long it's been sitting,
though.

It's been sloppily repainted years ago.  It has rust.  The front fenders
swing in the breeze if you pull them, there's some holes towards the back of
the rockers, and some bubbles in the rear wheelwell arches.  The trunk is
locked, so I haven't been able to dig in there.  The floorpans seem to be
good, but I really can't get under the car much.

Rust doesn't scare me, as I have a 1970 BMW 2002ti and a 1974 Alfa Spider as
well as a couple of old trucks.  All "rescue" projects.  Mechanicals are
easy.

The seller's supposed to call me when he has the key and I can check out the
car.  I'll be checking on it tomorrow.  I'm attaching a picture, don't know
if it'll go through.

I'm curious if anyone can tell me what is a fair guesstimate of the car's
worth as a project, not as a parts car.  I'm all too familiar with the old
"It's worth what someone wants to pay", but not all sellers understand that.
I would hate to be thinking $500 if the seller would be right to be thinking
$2000.

Comments welcome and appreciated!

vince
Naperville, IL

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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sat Jul 19 08:37:55 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:37:55 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] wiper blades
In-Reply-To: <20080719095054.RH10E.23350.root@fepweb13>
Message-ID: <C397C5D5804343A4BFFD6B9372C325ED@xp>

You can also search the mail archives. From 2006:

Short windshield: Napa #60-1033
Tall windshiedl: Napa #600131

                    `  ___  '
Pete               -  (O o)  -
------------------ooO--(_)--Ooo----
Lake Forest Park, WA
1966 1600 SPL311
1966 L20B WPL411

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 6:51 AM
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] wiper blades


I seem to remember someone posting a NAPA auto parts number for wiper
blades. I searched on 311s.org but cannot find what I was looking for. I did
find a couple part numbers but one is for a short windscreen car and the
other does not look like what I am looking for.

Does any one remember or know this NAPA part #? Or know of one other than
"Bosch WBA 709"?

Thanks

Tim
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From vytis1600 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 19 09:07:19 2008
From: vytis1600 at yahoo.com (vytis1600)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:07:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Vinces 66 junkyard special
Message-ID: <674586.68143.qm@web59304.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

I agree, $500.00 would be a fair price for the 66 as described.

From drreich48 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 19 09:19:50 2008
From: drreich48 at yahoo.com (DeWayne Reichert)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:19:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Missing belts
Message-ID: <847578.75194.qm@web39104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hey to all,
 
 What a depressing time it is. There she sets in my garage just waiting to hug
those corners and beat some asphalt. Our 1968 spl 311 with a rebuilt tranny
that no longer jumps out of 4th gear and a nice clean engine and compartment.
It has longer studs on the front wheels so I don't have to worry about them
falling off. I just cant wait to drive it to the ocean, to work, to the store
just to drive it would be great. But my wife says NOOOO because it have no
seat belts. What if we get pulled over she says. What if we don't I say.  If
we do she says than its a ticket. So there she sets in the garage waiting for
a set of seat belts. So if some one out there has a set looking for a car
PLEASE let me know.
 
DeWayne & Jeanne
68 spl 311 - 1605
Wishing for wind in my face

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Sat Jul 19 10:17:05 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:17:05 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Missing belts
In-Reply-To: <847578.75194.qm@web39104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <847578.75194.qm@web39104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CAB7D204BE8566-1748-6147@webmail-nd08.sysops.aol.com>

 Just use some generic ones from the auto parts store for now until you find OE if that's what you are looking for. Or go to a junkyard and pick up some used if they are in good shape.
Linda


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: DeWayne Reichert <drreich48 at yahoo.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 8:19 am
Subject: [Roadsters] Missing belts










Hey to all,
 
 What a depressing time it is. There she sets in my garage just waiting to hug
those corners and beat some asphalt. Our 1968 spl 311 with a rebuilt tranny
that no longer jumps out of 4th gear and a nice clean engine and compartment.
It has longer studs on the front wheels so I don't have to worry about them
falling off. I just cant wait to drive it to the ocean, to work, to the store
just to drive it would be great. But my wife says NOOOO because it have no
seat belts. What if we get pulled over she says. What if we don't I say.  If
we do she says than its a ticket. So there she sets in the garage waiting for
a set of seat belts. So if some one out there has a set looking for a car
PLEASE let me know.
 
DeWayne & Jeanne
68 spl 311 - 1605
Wishing for wind in my face
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From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Sat Jul 19 10:37:36 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:37:36 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] wiper blades
In-Reply-To: <C397C5D5804343A4BFFD6B9372C325ED@xp>
Message-ID: <E1KKFR7-0006aZ-Am@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I've gone to the 14 inch Rain-X brand blades and am VERY happy with them. I
also use Rain-X repellent on the outside and Rain-X anti-fog on the inside
(during the winter). CRAZY good results!

Matt Smith
And Loreli, (a 1970 SRL311 Solex about to get 2 new pairs of shoes, Yokohama
S.Drive 195/50R15, on her 6" front and 7" rear Panasport socks)

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From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Pete Peters
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:38 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] wiper blades

You can also search the mail archives. From 2006:

Short windshield: Napa #60-1033
Tall windshiedl: Napa #600131

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From RoadsterGB at aol.com  Sat Jul 19 14:12:30 2008
From: RoadsterGB at aol.com (RoadsterGB at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:12:30 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] 1967 2000 Roadster - modified front end.
Message-ID: <be9.324ecf7b.35b3a4ae@aol.com>

Dear All
 
Probably one of the most bizarre Datsun Roadsters you will see ...
 
_http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/datsunmodified.htm_ 
(http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/datsunmodified.htm) 
 
Best from England - Rob

From hoon at pixar.com  Sat Jul 19 17:45:03 2008
From: hoon at pixar.com (Hoon Kim)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:45:03 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for counter gear.
Message-ID: <BB51C52F-7ABF-466E-9CCC-CA11BDCE30B8@pixar.com>

So after much investigation both my counter gears in my two  
transmissions are chewed up. I was hoping that I could mix and match  
my two transmissions and that I would have one good counter gear to  
swap out. But alas I now have two non working transmissions. So I am  
looking for anyone with a spare counter gear for a servo 1600  
transmission for an early 67. Anyone?

Thanks.

- Hoon Kim

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Sat Jul 19 17:51:13 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:51:13 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 1967 2000 Roadster - modified front end.
In-Reply-To: <be9.324ecf7b.35b3a4ae@aol.com>
References: <be9.324ecf7b.35b3a4ae@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001901c8e9fa$54e52ba0$feaf82e0$@net>

  Saw a roadsters at Carlisle, PA about 8 years ago with the Maryland Z
club.  It was poorly modified to look like a miniature Bat mobile.  It had
sculptured faces of all Batman's evil foes on the hood and trunk lids.  And
just to make sure it was really ugly, it was painted rattle can flat black.


Paul
Ohio

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From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of RoadsterGB at aol.com
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 4:13 PM
To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] 1967 2000 Roadster - modified front end.

Dear All
 
Probably one of the most bizarre Datsun Roadsters you will see ...
 
_http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/datsunmodified.htm_ 
(http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/datsunmodified.htm) 
 
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From TaylorFarm at kddmgroup.com  Sat Jul 19 19:18:16 2008
From: TaylorFarm at kddmgroup.com (Doug and Laura)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:18:16 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 1967 2000 Roadster - modified front end.
In-Reply-To: <001901c8e9fa$54e52ba0$feaf82e0$@net>
References: <be9.324ecf7b.35b3a4ae@aol.com>
	<001901c8e9fa$54e52ba0$feaf82e0$@net>
Message-ID: <000001c8ea06$7dcb7bd0$7ffea8c0@douglas47dcb9e>

Looks a little bit like a Lancia Fulvia Sport Zagato.  See this one for sale
in California as an example.
http://www.fantasyjunction.com/used-cars.php?id=d9ccd8854f4336e79160626c0770
a36c 

Doug
_____________________________________________________
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Shepherd Park
Washington, DC
'95.5 urS6 Avant (aka "Daddy's Big Red Car")
'69 SPL311-25006 (aka "Daddy's Little Red Car" -- it's baaack....)
'74 twin-cam solex Celica GT (aka "the big brown door stop")

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+taylorfarm=kddmgroup.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+taylorfarm=kddmgroup.com at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 7:51 PM
To: RoadsterGB at aol.com; Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1967 2000 Roadster - modified front end.

  Saw a roadsters at Carlisle, PA about 8 years ago with the Maryland Z
club.  It was poorly modified to look like a miniature Bat mobile.  It had
sculptured faces of all Batman's evil foes on the hood and trunk lids.  And
just to make sure it was really ugly, it was painted rattle can flat black.


Paul
Ohio

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From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net
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Behalf Of RoadsterGB at aol.com
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 4:13 PM
To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] 1967 2000 Roadster - modified front end.

Dear All
 
Probably one of the most bizarre Datsun Roadsters you will see ...
 
_http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/datsunmodified.htm_ 
(http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/datsunmodified.htm) 
 
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From vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 19 21:10:56 2008
From: vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com (Vince Strazzabosco)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:10:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Vinces 66 junkyard special
In-Reply-To: <674586.68143.qm@web59304.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <550755.91548.qm@web33507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks to everyone for their thoughts on what a fair price to pay is.  I'm thinking the lower end of the scale is accurate, but then I'm also taking into consideration that the car is very complete and unmolested and less than 10 miles from where I live.  The seller still hasn't called me back, I'm told he may be going through some personal problems at the moment.

Natch, I'll update the list on what happens.

vince


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> Subject: [Roadsters] Vinces 66 junkyard special
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> Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 10:07 AM
> I agree, $500.00 would be a fair price for the 66 as
> described.
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From JRice at koaspeer.com  Sun Jul 20 05:06:54 2008
From: JRice at koaspeer.com (JRice at koaspeer.com)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:06:54 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] (Roadsters)  '66 1600 for Sale.
Message-ID: <OF297817E5.FC1C9FD3-ON8525748C.003C27B5-8525748C.003D2D43@koanet.co.jp>

Fellow Datsun Friends:

A number of years ago I bought 2 cars off the E-Bay. I was looking for a
"69 in good shape to
rebuild. Well I bought 2.  I completed my rebuild a few years ago and the
'66 Datsun has been
sitting in my garage. At this time in my life I do not have time to tackle
another rebuild project.

So I thought I would offer this to the Datsun forum first prior to posting
on E-Bay.

I have a '66 1600 ( Best Price Offer.)

      -   The car does not run.

      -   There is a small hole in the frame. It looks like from a floor
jack.

      -   The hood is a off a later model.

I am looking for a good home for the car. Would be best if I can find
someone who will
use her.

      I do have the title for the car.

Car will have to be picked up.

I will in Bradford, PA  ( North-Western PA on the NY-PA border.)

Please contact me if you are interested and I can forward all information
needed.


Jeffrey Rice
Bradford, PA.

'69  1600


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From chalsted at comcast.net  Sun Jul 20 07:25:25 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:25:25 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Auburn Cord Duesenburg museum with roadster out front
Message-ID: <002701c8ea6c$12575520$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

now that I've set up a webshots account as 672000, I'm having fun posting some
pix. will probably set up number of albums in a short period of time, so check
back if you're interested. will be posting albums of the prototype 1500,
SPL213-00004, SRL311-00006, have already posted one of SPL310-00003. also a
project album, a 67.5 2000 album, and if you're interested in the classics at
all, check out my Auburn Cord Duesenburg museum album- try it as a slideshow.
even a couple pix of the roadster I was driving out front- got to visit Lee
Ehinger and Paul Kort that trip too :-)

Craig

From tminerpcav at aol.com  Sun Jul 20 08:08:28 2008
From: tminerpcav at aol.com (tminerpcav at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:08:28 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Auburn Cord Duesenburg museum with roadster out
 front
In-Reply-To: <002701c8ea6c$12575520$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
References: <002701c8ea6c$12575520$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
Message-ID: <8CAB88937B8C503-A3C-B5A8@WEBMAIL-NG07.sysops.aol.com>

Craig,

Is the 67.5 2000 that was for sale still available, and what exactly is included?

Tim


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From: chalsted <chalsted at comcast.net>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 6:25 am
Subject: [Roadsters] Auburn Cord Duesenburg museum with roadster out front



now that I've set up a webshots account as 672000, I'm having fun posting some
pix. will probably set up number of albums in a short period of time, so check
back if you're interested. will be posting albums of the prototype 1500,
SPL213-00004, SRL311-00006, have already posted one of SPL310-00003. also a
project album, a 67.5 2000 album, and if you're interested in the classics at
all, check out my Auburn Cord Duesenburg museum album- try it as a slideshow.
even a couple pix of the roadster I was driving out front- got to visit Lee
Ehinger and Paul Kort that trip too :-)

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From 12061997 at comcast.net  Sun Jul 20 09:04:07 2008
From: 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:04:07 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] austin
Message-ID: <072020081504.2159.488353E700001E250000086F2207024553C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net>

Hi List, Anyone in the Austin TX area out this weekend? bob muncie IN 67-1600 

From dato1500 at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 20 21:44:51 2008
From: dato1500 at hotmail.com (Peter Jones)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:44:51 +0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Part needed
Message-ID: <BLU141-W3AF320BCFFE0A79021494D58A0@phx.gbl>

Helo listers,
Does anybody know of a part number for the uni joint is the steering coloum.
Mine is some what damaged and I will need to replace it before I can get it
registered.

regards
Peter j
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From graemes at internode.on.net  Sun Jul 20 22:18:39 2008
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:48:39 +0930
Subject: [Roadsters] Part needed
In-Reply-To: <BLU141-W3AF320BCFFE0A79021494D58A0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU141-W3AF320BCFFE0A79021494D58A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000301c8eae8$dc692650$236fa8c0@desktop>

If the bearings are damaged a good Work Shop should be able to re-build it. 

"Mine is some what damaged and I will need to replace it before I can get it
registered."

regards
Peter j

From chalsted at comcast.net  Mon Jul 21 08:40:40 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:40:40 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] secret to pulling 1600 temp sensor intact?
Message-ID: <003d01c8eb3f$c0fe56e0$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

I've been trying to get a temp sensor out intact and have managed to trash a
couple... is there a secret? or just one of those dissimilar metals reactions
and I'm screwed....not a problem getting the "sleeve" off, just removing the
brass sensor

Thanks-
Craig

From Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com  Mon Jul 21 09:20:43 2008
From: Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com (Pat)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:20:43 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] secret to pulling 1600 temp sensor intact?
In-Reply-To: <003d01c8eb3f$c0fe56e0$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
References: <003d01c8eb3f$c0fe56e0$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
Message-ID: <4884A94B.5060807@HorneSystemsTx.com>

Craig,

The sensors usually get swedged into the hole if the retaining nut is 
tightened too much. There may be a buildup of crud between the head and 
the sender, so you may be able to free it up with something that will 
dissolve the crud in there, but I have never found anything to do the 
job. When they have been stuck in the past I've had to use a drift and 
beat them out from the inside after removing the thermostat housing.

There is a screw in sender available that I've used as a replacement for 
the ones that use a gland nut. They have never seized on me, but others 
may have different results. I don't remember what year it was intended 
for, but I got it from the dealer.

Good luck.

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake chalsted:
> I've been trying to get a temp sensor out intact and have managed to trash a
> couple... is there a secret? or just one of those dissimilar metals reactions
> and I'm screwed....not a problem getting the "sleeve" off, just removing the
> brass sensor
>
> Thanks-
> Craig
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From chuckkyle at mac.com  Mon Jul 21 10:53:20 2008
From: chuckkyle at mac.com (Charles Kyle)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:53:20 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 engine "make-over"
Message-ID: <18630587025432064068524961052498567185-Webmail2@me.com>

Good morning,

I have a1968 1600 with the standard R engine.  I am soliciting suggestions on items that would "spruce-up" the appearance of the engine for the purposes of showing it during local car shows.  I am not talking World of Wheels but local venues.  I would greatly aappreciateany suggestions.

Chuck

Hm 512-225-4501

From leehinger at verizon.net  Mon Jul 21 11:35:43 2008
From: leehinger at verizon.net (Lee Ehinger)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:35:43 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT - looking for 280Z 5 speed trans
Message-ID: <000401c8eb58$344c1570$0201a8c0@homeo9ltgh9dtd>

I am looking for an early 280Z 5 speed trans - anyone have one or know
of one needing a new home?
 
Thanks! 
 
Lee Ehinger
67.5 2000
70 240Z
Ft Wayne IN

From leehinger at verizon.net  Mon Jul 21 11:38:28 2008
From: leehinger at verizon.net (Lee Ehinger)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:38:28 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Part needed
In-Reply-To: <000301c8eae8$dc692650$236fa8c0@desktop>
Message-ID: <000901c8eb58$96c680a0$0201a8c0@homeo9ltgh9dtd>

I tried to find a small steering ujoint for a 240Z resto project &
struck out....  no zurk or grease fitting on the Z or roadster u joint. 

Has anyone found a source for these small ujoints? 

Thank you!
Lee Ehinger

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+leehinger=verizon.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+leehinger=verizon.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Graeme
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:19 AM
To: 'Peter Jones'; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Part needed

If the bearings are damaged a good Work Shop should be able to re-build
it. 

"Mine is some what damaged and I will need to replace it before I can
get it
registered."

regards
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From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Mon Jul 21 11:45:11 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:45:11 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Pipe fitting sizes Q
Message-ID: <E1KKzRb-0008Mo-3q@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi Everyone,

I have some questions about pipe fittings on a 1970 SRL Solex. Even if you
have some, but not all, of the answers, I'd love to hear from ya!

What is the thread (size and pitch) on the (female) ends of the manifold
water pipe?

What is the thread (size and pitch) on the (female) heater outlet of the
water pump?

What is the thread (size and pitch) on the (female) fuel pump inlet/outlets?

Would it be a problem going to a slightly larger fuel hose than the pipe
from the tank? (i.e. 3/8 hose?)

Here's the reason I ask. I am being sent some Stainless Steel AN
fittings/hoses and need to find the correct adapters. 

 

Thank you,

Matt Smith

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Mon Jul 21 11:45:11 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:45:11 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Part needed
In-Reply-To: <000901c8eb58$96c680a0$0201a8c0@homeo9ltgh9dtd>
Message-ID: <8CAB970A8AB03E7-4BC-5FB9@webmail-nb15.sysops.aol.com>

 Lee,
Check 311 site.......WIKI-->Parts Interchange List. U joints are listed.

Linda


 


 

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From: Lee Ehinger <leehinger at verizon.net>
To: 'Graeme' <graemes at internode.on.net>; 'Peter Jones' <dato1500 at hotmail.com>; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:38 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Part needed










I tried to find a small steering ujoint for a 240Z resto project &
struck out....  no zurk or grease fitting on the Z or roadster u joint. 

Has anyone found a source for these small ujoints? 

Thank you!
Lee Ehinger

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+leehinger=verizon.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+leehinger=verizon.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Graeme
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:19 AM
To: 'Peter Jones'; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Part needed

If the bearings are damaged a good Work Shop should be able to re-build
it. 

"Mine is some what damaged and I will need to replace it before I can
get it
registered."

regards
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From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Mon Jul 21 11:55:20 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:55:20 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] secret to pulling 1600 temp sensor intact?
In-Reply-To: <4884A94B.5060807@HorneSystemsTx.com>
Message-ID: <E1KKzbQ-0005zg-Nc@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Craig,
I do believe Pat's right. BFH (big f'n hammer)is the answer. :-) Intact is
not likely.

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Pat
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:21 AM
To: chalsted
Cc: Steve Nicks; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] secret to pulling 1600 temp sensor intact?

Craig,

The sensors usually get swedged into the hole if the retaining nut is 
tightened too much. There may be a buildup of crud between the head and 
the sender, so you may be able to free it up with something that will 
dissolve the crud in there, but I have never found anything to do the 
job. When they have been stuck in the past I've had to use a drift and 
beat them out from the inside after removing the thermostat housing.

There is a screw in sender available that I've used as a replacement for 
the ones that use a gland nut. They have never seized on me, but others 
may have different results. I don't remember what year it was intended 
for, but I got it from the dealer.

Good luck.

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake chalsted:
> I've been trying to get a temp sensor out intact and have managed to trash
a
> couple... is there a secret? or just one of those dissimilar metals
reactions
> and I'm screwed....not a problem getting the "sleeve" off, just removing
the
> brass sensor
>
> Thanks-
> Craig
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Mon Jul 21 12:13:03 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:13:03 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] secret to pulling 1600 temp sensor intact?
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 As discussed on 311 site:
http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6426&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=temp+and+sender

If head is still on car it can be damaged. No mechanics would attempt to remove sender without removing the head first when I checked.

Linda


 


 






> I've been trying to get a temp sensor out intact and have managed to trash
a
> couple... is there a secret? or just one of those dissimilar metals
reactions
> and I'm screwed....not a problem getting the "sleeve" off, just removing
the
> brass sensor
>
> Thanks-
> Craig
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From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Mon Jul 21 12:19:02 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:19:02 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 engine "make-over"
In-Reply-To: <18630587025432064068524961052498567185-Webmail2@me.com>
Message-ID: <E1KKzyl-0002oE-Fc@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi Chuck,
Color coordination usually helps, especially if you can tie it into the rest
of the car. Loreli is silver and black, but has yellow accents on the horn
button and steering wheel bolts (I have to explain that it's a black Grant
GT 13" steering wheel). Yellow also accents the brake calipers/drums, and
(very carefully done) in the inside of the emblems (where the inside of the
emblem writing was white, it's now matching yellow, as is the black inside
part of the "D" on the 2000 grille. 
Finally, I've carried the theme into the engine compartment. I dismantled
the alternator and painted it yellow. I polished the valve cover and painted
it yellow (then carefully removed the paint from the raised areas with very
fine sandpaper, and re-painted the whole thing clear). Yellow Accel spark
plug wires have it NEARLY done.  Finally, a cheap way to make things look
pretty is the $50+ dollar stainless Steel hose cover kit almost every auto
parts house sells. Some shiny heat/sound shield material on the inside of
the hood wouldn't hurt either. Here's a link to what I used.
http://lobucrod.com. A 4'x10' did my hood, trunk lid, and inside my door
panels with plenty to spare.

Matt Smith
Hixson, TN


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Charles Kyle
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:53 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 engine "make-over"

Good morning,

I have a1968 1600 with the standard R engine.  I am soliciting suggestions
on items that would "spruce-up" the appearance of the engine for the
purposes of showing it during local car shows.  I am not talking World of
Wheels but local venues.  I would greatly aappreciateany suggestions.

Chuck

Hm 512-225-4501
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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Mon Jul 21 13:24:17 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:24:17 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Pipe fitting sizes Q
Message-ID: <ce8.38433cad.35b63c61@aol.com>

Most all of the manifold fittings will be BSPT. Wouldn't be surprised if  the 
water pump and fuel pump are also.
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 7/21/2008 10:45:28 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
matthews517 at earthlink.net writes:

Hi  Everyone,

I have some questions about pipe fittings on a 1970 SRL  Solex. Even if you
have some, but not all, of the answers, I'd love to hear  from ya!

What is the thread (size and pitch) on the (female) ends of  the manifold
water pipe?

What is the thread (size and pitch) on the  (female) heater outlet of the
water pump?

What is the thread (size  and pitch) on the (female) fuel pump inlet/outlets?

Would it be a  problem going to a slightly larger fuel hose than the pipe
from the tank?  (i.e. 3/8 hose?)

Here's the reason I ask. I am being sent some  Stainless Steel AN
fittings/hoses and need to find the correct adapters.  



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From chuckkyle at mac.com  Mon Jul 21 13:49:01 2008
From: chuckkyle at mac.com (Charles Kyle)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:49:01 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Leavenworth Cruisers Car Show - July 2008
In-Reply-To: <E1KKzyl-0002oE-Fc@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <C4AA525D.F6F6%chuckkyle@mac.com>

I finally have the Datsun in a somewhat "rolling restoration" showable
fashion.  For those that are interested take a peak:
http://www.chuckkyle.com/Home/My_Albums/Pages/Leavenworth_Cruisers_Car_Show_
-_July.html

V/r


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From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 21 14:47:15 2008
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:47:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Pipe fitting sizes Q
In-Reply-To: <ce8.38433cad.35b63c61@aol.com>
Message-ID: <70209.65743.qm@web51111.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

In the smaller sizes, bsp and npt are so close that they work together. 

Jim


--- On Mon, 7/21/08, Keith0alan at aol.com <Keith0alan at aol.com> wrote:

> From: Keith0alan at aol.com <Keith0alan at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Pipe fitting sizes Q
> To: matthews517 at earthlink.net, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 3:24 PM
> Most all of the manifold fittings will be BSPT. Wouldn't
> be surprised if  the 
> water pump and fuel pump are also.
>  
> keith
>  
>  
> In a message dated 7/21/2008 10:45:28 A.M. Pacific Daylight
> Time,  
> matthews517 at earthlink.net writes:
> 
> Hi  Everyone,
> 
> I have some questions about pipe fittings on a 1970 SRL 
> Solex. Even if you
> have some, but not all, of the answers, I'd love to
> hear  from ya!
> 
> What is the thread (size and pitch) on the (female) ends of
>  the manifold
> water pipe?
> 
> What is the thread (size and pitch) on the  (female) heater
> outlet of the
> water pump?
> 
> What is the thread (size  and pitch) on the (female) fuel
> pump inlet/outlets?
> 
> Would it be a  problem going to a slightly larger fuel hose
> than the pipe
> from the tank?  (i.e. 3/8 hose?)
> 
> Here's the reason I ask. I am being sent some 
> Stainless Steel AN
> fittings/hoses and need to find the correct adapters.  
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Matt  Smith
> You are subscribed as  keith0alan at aol.com
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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Mon Jul 21 19:33:02 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:33:02 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] secret to pulling 1600 temp sensor intact?
In-Reply-To: <E1KKzbQ-0005zg-Nc@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <000601c8eb9a$e234a110$6800a8c0@delled48909442>

Pat and Matthew are  correct, I also knocked it from the inside.  Too
bad you can't get shape charges that small.  OOH, new tool idea!!!

Dave Brisco
EastCoastRoadster.com
Custom explosives coming soon.


-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew A. Smith [mailto:matthews517 at earthlink.net] 
 Craig,
I do believe Pat's right. BFH (big f'n hammer)is the answer. :-) Intact
is
not likely.

Pat Wrote, rather eloquently, I might add...

The sensors usually get swedged into the hole if the retaining nut is 
tightened too much. There may be a buildup of crud between the head and 
the sender, so you may be able to free it up with something that will 
dissolve the crud in there, but I have never found anything to do the 
job. When they have been stuck in the past I've had to use a drift and 
beat them out from the inside after removing the thermostat housing.

There is a screw in sender available that I've used as a replacement for

the ones that use a gland nut. They have never seized on me, but others 
may have different results. I don't remember what year it was intended 
for, but I got it from the dealer.

Good luck.

Peace,
Pat

From dato1500 at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 21 22:41:28 2008
From: dato1500 at hotmail.com (Peter Jones)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:41:28 +0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Part needed
In-Reply-To: <BLU141-W3AF320BCFFE0A79021494D58A0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU141-W3AF320BCFFE0A79021494D58A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU141-W431F43A020115D1DD1B593D5850@phx.gbl>

Thanks to all that replied found the 311 site had a part number neapco
#1-0170X.
I have purchased a new Type A (early model) one from a local supplier in
Western Australia grand total of $14.60.
It has a grease nipple as well.
I will size it up against my old one and let you know.
Precision pn# 338 fits a Chevy
Spicer pn#5-170X

regards
Peter J> From: dato1500 at hotmail.com> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:44:51 +0800> Subject: [Roadsters] Part needed> >
Helo listers,> Does anybody know of a part number for the uni joint is the
steering coloum.> Mine is some what damaged and I will need to replace it
before I can get it> registered.> > regards> Peter j
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From chalsted at comcast.net  Tue Jul 22 04:27:38 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:27:38 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] possible west coast run, need transport E-W?
Message-ID: <000801c8ebe5$91988870$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

I may be picking up a 2 car trailer and making a banzai run out to the west
coast to pick up a couple roadsters I have out there. if anyone needs a car
transported east to west or is interested in one of my project cars and wants
a price delivered, let me know.  a few possibilities:

#260 1500  matching # single carb car  $3000 west coast
a few 67.5 2000 projects
prototype 1500
SPL310-00003  getting pretty nice
old school 2000 race car national runoffs 3x
68 2000 race roadster with BRE prepared engine, long term stored (like most of
them...)
66 1600 original California car  $3000 west coast
Volvo 122s Amazon

let me know, I either have to be back by august 7th for a wedding in the
family or wait until september (or skip the trip and just pay to get my stuff
shipped)

could deliver along the way out too,

Craig

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Tue Jul 22 09:13:11 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:13:11 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster vs 240Z
Message-ID: <E1KLJY7-0000UP-TX@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi All,

Anyone know how similar the door mechanics for a Z and a roadster compare?
Specifically, I'm looking at hinges and latching. I may have access to a set
of vertical door hinges at about half price and wonder how similar they
would be.

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Tue Jul 22 09:14:04 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:14:04 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster vs 240Z
Message-ID: <E1KLJYz-0007q7-6Y@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Oops.

This was from Matt in Chatt

 

  _____  

From: Matthew A. Smith [mailto:matthews517 at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:13 AM
To: 'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net'
Subject: Roadster vs 240Z

 

Hi All,

Anyone know how similar the door mechanics for a Z and a roadster compare?
Specifically, I'm looking at hinges and latching. I may have access to a set
of vertical door hinges at about half price and wonder how similar they
would be.

From bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com  Tue Jul 22 09:18:43 2008
From: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com (Brian Hollands)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:18:43 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster vs 240Z
In-Reply-To: <E1KLJY7-0000UP-TX@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20080722151841.UNQA2298.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B>

I can tell you that the exterior door handles are nearly identical and can
be interchanged - I put a spare roadster handle on my 240Z years ago.  I
seem to recall that I might have had to put the RH handle on the LH side but
don't recall that for sure...
Brian
69 2000
Tampa FL

From VulForge at aol.com  Tue Jul 22 09:48:09 2008
From: VulForge at aol.com (VulForge at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:48:09 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Temp sender
Message-ID: <c2f.3acde433.35b75b39@aol.com>

It is possible to remove the temp sender from the outside, but I don't  
recommend it.  I ended up drilling and using an easy-out.  I hope  someone laughed 
when they named that tool!  I am a pretty good machinist  and it took hours.
 
Russell  Criswell
Vulcan's Forge

3936 Broadway
Kansas City, MO  64111

816-931-6303
816-931-9378 fax
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From bradandgayle at charter.net  Tue Jul 22 13:13:26 2008
From: bradandgayle at charter.net (Brad and Gayle Holmes)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:13:26 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Looking for someone who can work on a '67 1/2
 Datsun 1600 Roadster in N.C.
References: <000001c8e443$ddeb3460$99c19d20$@net>
Message-ID: <F1BEF175C06F4D85B6708953211D8876@holmes>

Gordon and list

The SEROC url changed a while back and I emailed it to the list, so here it 
is again.

http://www.seroc.net/

We still have some updates to make but, we're back on the air......... so to 
speak, Thanks to Tom Phelan.

Brad Holmes
SEROC
Montgomery, AL


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
To: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 12:22 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Looking for someone who can work on a '67 1/2 
Datsun 1600 Roadster in N.C.


> Hi, gang. My link to SEROC is probably outdated, because I've fallen way
> behind in keeping my site current.
>
> Is there anyone in the NC area who can help this person?
>
> Gordon Glasgow
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: michael lalumondier [mailto:mikelalumondier at charter.net]
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 6:37 AM
> To: me at gordon-glasgow.org
> Subject: Looking for someone who can work on a '67 1/2 Datsun 1600 
> Roadster
> in N.C.
>
> Hello Gordon,
>
> I am considering purchasing a '67 1/2 Datsun 1600 Roadster but am
> having difficulty finding anyone around who could possibly service/
> rebuild the vehicle for me. I live in Asheville, NC and haven't found
> anyone on-line or in our local phone directory. I wanted to know if
> you knew of anyone in the east that can work on this car.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Mike
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From tputland at charter.net  Tue Jul 22 17:57:24 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:57:24 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] spark plugs
Message-ID: <20080722195724.HUPLB.19776.root@fepweb10>

I have read that the BP6ES is recommended for my 1600. I went to get a (backup) set the other day and the guy at my local tried to to tell me that the "NGK 73333" --that he showed me on his screen-- was the same plug. I didn't believe him and said thanks any way as I have never seen "73333" mentioned as a comaprable plug. 

Does any one recognize this NGK number? And what stores have the BP6ES in stock? I got a set from NAPA once but the one closest to me is only open 3 hours a weekend and never when I need to go there during a weekend.

TIA

Tim

From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Tue Jul 22 18:26:44 2008
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:26:44 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] spark plugs
References: <20080722195724.HUPLB.19776.root@fepweb10>
Message-ID: <000801c8ec5a$d872c0b0$6500a8c0@LAP120>

NGK.com says that part number does not exist. Duh! Once again, someone can
do a simple task he's paid to do. I'm sick of it!
Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker/5-speed


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>
To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:57 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] spark plugs


> I have read that the BP6ES is recommended for my 1600. I went to get a
(backup) set the other day and the guy at my local tried to to tell me that
the "NGK 73333" --that he showed me on his screen-- was the same plug. I
didn't believe him and said thanks any way as I have never seen "73333"
mentioned as a comaprable plug.
>
> Does any one recognize this NGK number? And what stores have the BP6ES in
stock? I got a set from NAPA once but the one closest to me is only open 3
hours a weekend and never when I need to go there during a weekend.
>
> TIA
>
> Tim
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From tputland at charter.net  Tue Jul 22 18:41:04 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:41:04 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] spark plugs and a thanks!
In-Reply-To: <000801c8ec5a$d872c0b0$6500a8c0@LAP120>
Message-ID: <20080722204104.SYFAU.20739.root@fepweb10>

I knew that didn't look right and that is why I didn't buy the plugs. The weird thing is that the screen looked (kinda) like this:

NGK               BP6ES
NGK               73333

And this guy was saying it is the same plug. I may make a trip in there and have the guy pull the plugs so I can look at them just to see what the markings are, etc.

THANKS once again to EVERYONE on this list and the 311s.org site who is knowledgeable in the Roadster area. Had I not read the available info, I might have just listened to the guy behind the counter. 

Getting a little less clueless every day!!!!!

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- MH <twobeaners at earthlink.net> wrote: 

=============
NGK.com says that part number does not exist. Duh! Once again, someone can
do a simple task he's paid to do. I'm sick of it!
Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker/5-speed


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>
To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:57 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] spark plugs


I have read that the BP6ES is recommended for my 1600. I went to get a
(backup) set the other day and the guy at my local tried to to tell me that
the "NGK 73333" --that he showed me on his screen-- was the same plug. I
didn't believe him and said thanks any way as I have never seen "73333"
mentioned as a comaprable plug.

Does any one recognize this NGK number? And what stores have the BP6ES in
stock? I got a set from NAPA once but the one closest to me is only open 3
hours a weekend and never when I need to go there during a weekend.

TIA

Tim

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Jul 22 18:50:13 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:50:13 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] spark plugs and a thanks!
Message-ID: <072320080050.6851.488680450000881000001AC32205886442CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

I've never heard of a Napa only open 3 hours on a Saturday. Did the owner retire from the US Postal Service? <g>

Pete "apologizing in advance to any postal workers out there"

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
> I knew that didn't look right and that is why I didn't buy the plugs. The weird 
> thing is that the screen looked (kinda) like this:
> 
> NGK               BP6ES
> NGK               73333
> 
> And this guy was saying it is the same plug. I may make a trip in there and have 
> the guy pull the plugs so I can look at them just to see what the markings are, 
> etc.
> 
> THANKS once again to EVERYONE on this list and the 311s.org site who is 
> knowledgeable in the Roadster area. Had I not read the available info, I might 
> have just listened to the guy behind the counter. 
> 
> Getting a little less clueless every day!!!!!
> 
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
> 
> ---- MH <twobeaners at earthlink.net> wrote: 
> 
> =============
> NGK.com says that part number does not exist. Duh! Once again, someone can
> do a simple task he's paid to do. I'm sick of it!
> Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker/5-speed
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>
> To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:57 PM
> Subject: [Roadsters] spark plugs
> 
> 
> I have read that the BP6ES is recommended for my 1600. I went to get a
> (backup) set the other day and the guy at my local tried to to tell me that
> the "NGK 73333" --that he showed me on his screen-- was the same plug. I
> didn't believe him and said thanks any way as I have never seen "73333"
> mentioned as a comaprable plug.
> 
> Does any one recognize this NGK number? And what stores have the BP6ES in
> stock? I got a set from NAPA once but the one closest to me is only open 3
> hours a weekend and never when I need to go there during a weekend.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Tim
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From tputland at charter.net  Tue Jul 22 19:06:20 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:06:20 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] spark plugs and a thanks!
In-Reply-To: <072320080050.6851.488680450000881000001AC32205886442CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20080722210620.4G4EN.21358.root@fepweb10>

I swear to it. This one is only open 9-12 Sat morning. It just bloody kills me because I forget about it EVERY weekend I need/want to make a quick run there--about ten minutes for me. Other wise the next closest part store is about 30 minutes away. 

Oh yea...the post in this town is open 9-11:30 and 12:30 to 4:30 weekdays and for two hours on Sat morning. I can NEVER get home from work in time to get to the post during the week. So the posties here can get stuffed as well!! ;-p   lol


Tim


---- Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote: 

=============
I've never heard of a Napa only open 3 hours on a Saturday. Did the owner retire from the US Postal Service? <g>

Pete "apologizing in advance to any postal workers out there"

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
> I knew that didn't look right and that is why I didn't buy the plugs. The weird 
> thing is that the screen looked (kinda) like this:
> 
> NGK               BP6ES
> NGK               73333
> 
> And this guy was saying it is the same plug. I may make a trip in there and have 
> the guy pull the plugs so I can look at them just to see what the markings are, 
> etc.
> 
> THANKS once again to EVERYONE on this list and the 311s.org site who is 
> knowledgeable in the Roadster area. Had I not read the available info, I might 
> have just listened to the guy behind the counter. 
> 
> Getting a little less clueless every day!!!!!
> 
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
> 
> ---- MH <twobeaners at earthlink.net> wrote: 
> 
> =============
> NGK.com says that part number does not exist. Duh! Once again, someone can
> do a simple task he's paid to do. I'm sick of it!
> Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker/5-speed
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>
> To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:57 PM
> Subject: [Roadsters] spark plugs
> 
> 
> I have read that the BP6ES is recommended for my 1600. I went to get a
> (backup) set the other day and the guy at my local tried to to tell me that
> the "NGK 73333" --that he showed me on his screen-- was the same plug. I
> didn't believe him and said thanks any way as I have never seen "73333"
> mentioned as a comaprable plug.
> 
> Does any one recognize this NGK number? And what stores have the BP6ES in
> stock? I got a set from NAPA once but the one closest to me is only open 3
> hours a weekend and never when I need to go there during a weekend.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Tim

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Tue Jul 22 19:41:10 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:41:10 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] secret to pulling 1600 temp sensor intact?
In-Reply-To: <8CAB9748CDA709F-4BC-611F@webmail-nb15.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <003601c8ec65$3224be60$6800a8c0@delled48909442>

Linda, 
I would look for new mechanics.  Re-reading the 311's thread, the one
who wanted to burn it out is particularly scary, or just
lying...Aluminum heads and oxy-acetylene torches don't play well
together.  BTW, How did you finally get yours out? 

Anyway you get it out, anti-seize is needed when reinstalling, so you
don't need to do it again.

Dave Brisco
EastCoastRoadster.com

-----Original Message-----
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net [mailto:ljordan704 at netscape.net] 
 
 As discussed on 311 site:
http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6426&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd
=a&hilit=temp+and+sender


If head is still on car it can be damaged. No mechanics would attempt to
remove sender without removing the head first when I checked.

Linda


 


 






> I've been trying to get a temp sensor out intact and have managed to
trash
a
> couple... is there a secret? or just one of those dissimilar metals
reactions
> and I'm screwed....not a problem getting the "sleeve" off, just
removing
the
> brass sensor
>
> Thanks-
> Craig
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From 68roadster at charter.net  Tue Jul 22 19:54:42 2008
From: 68roadster at charter.net (Dennis Louthan)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:54:42 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Spark plugs
Message-ID: <48868F62.2050901@charter.net>

If anybody wants the correct plugs, BP6ES....I will be going
to Summit Racing next Sun. Only 40 miles from my home, I can
pick up anything you need and ship it, which is alot cheaper than
paying shipping and handling charges from Summit.PM if interested.

Food for thought,
Dennis
68 Stroker
Minden, NV

From datrock at centurytel.net  Tue Jul 22 19:45:54 2008
From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:45:54 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] spark plugs and a thanks!
In-Reply-To: <20080722204104.SYFAU.20739.root@fepweb10>
References: <20080722204104.SYFAU.20739.root@fepweb10>
Message-ID: <48868D52.6030006@centurytel.net>

Hi Tim, NGK stock #7333 is the same as BP6ES, both numbers are on the 
side of the silver box sitting in front of me, hope this helps.. Bill

From Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com  Tue Jul 22 20:00:46 2008
From: Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com (Pat)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:00:46 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] secret to pulling 1600 temp sensor intact?
In-Reply-To: <003601c8ec65$3224be60$6800a8c0@delled48909442>
References: <003601c8ec65$3224be60$6800a8c0@delled48909442>
Message-ID: <488690CE.6010409@HorneSystemsTx.com>

After I sent my first reply to this thread I started thinking about a 
tool that could be inserted into the water passage that could push on 
the sender straight, instead of at an angle. How about two arms with a 
fulcrum in the middle that could be inserted into the top of the head, 
bear against the inside of the water passage, and the other arm press 
against the sender? Put a bolt through the top ends of the arms, or use 
a clamp to put linear pressure onto the sender.

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake dave:
> Linda, 
> I would look for new mechanics.  Re-reading the 311's thread, the one
> who wanted to burn it out is particularly scary, or just
> lying...Aluminum heads and oxy-acetylene torches don't play well
> together.  BTW, How did you finally get yours out? 
>
> Anyway you get it out, anti-seize is needed when reinstalling, so you
> don't need to do it again.
>
> Dave Brisco
> EastCoastRoadster.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ljordan704 at netscape.net [mailto:ljordan704 at netscape.net] 
>  
>  As discussed on 311 site:
> http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6426&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd
> =a&hilit=temp+and+sender
>
>
> If head is still on car it can be damaged. No mechanics would attempt to
> remove sender without removing the head first when I checked.
>
> Linda
>
>
>  
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   
>> I've been trying to get a temp sensor out intact and have managed to
>>     
> trash
> a
>   
>> couple... is there a secret? or just one of those dissimilar metals
>>     
> reactions
>   
>> and I'm screwed....not a problem getting the "sleeve" off, just
>>     
> removing
> the
>   
>> brass sensor
>>
>> Thanks-
>> Craig
>> ________________________________________
>> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>
>> You are subscribed as pat at hornesystemstx.com
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>>
>>   
>>     
>
>   

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From chalsted at comcast.net  Tue Jul 22 20:25:17 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:25:17 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] link to first good pix of SPL213-00004
Message-ID: <002701c8ec7e$262b3760$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

http://rides.webshots.com/album/564198375rAulSl

From aultgc at att.net  Tue Jul 22 23:47:16 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:47:16 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
Message-ID: <000801c8ec87$90e3d6d0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

Sorry.  I couldn't help myself.

Some person has a windshield washer "nosel" for sale on eBay.  My grandfather,
for whom I have tremendous respect, never got past the 6th grade.  His
spelling was better.  How do these people get along in a modern world?
("Nosel" wasn't misspelled once; the spelling was consistent throughout the
listing.)

Gary

From tom at datsun2000.com  Wed Jul 23 03:56:51 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:56:51 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Looking for someone who can work on a '67 1/2
 Datsun 1600 Roadster in N.C.
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGAEFBDFAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

Glad to hear SEROC is back.  I put the new link in the SEROC line on the
datsun2000.com LINKS page.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

On 7/22/2008 12:13:26 PM, Brad and Gayle Holmes (bradandgayle at charter.net)
wrote:
> Gordon and list
>
> The SEROC url changed a while back and I emailed it to the list, so here
> it
> is again.
>
> http://www.seroc.net/
>
> We still have some updates to make but,
> we're back on the air......... so to
> speak, Thanks to Tom Phelan.
>
> Brad Holmes
> SEROC
> Montgomery, AL
> > Roadster

From tputland at charter.net  Wed Jul 23 06:04:46 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 5:04:46 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] spark plugs and a thanks!
In-Reply-To: <48868D52.6030006@centurytel.net>
Message-ID: <20080723080446.FSEUV.27364.root@fepweb10>

Thanks Bill (and Les) for this info. This is a good thing to know as now I can just go to my regular part store and get a set. 

Thanks again fellas!


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- Bill Cole <datrock at centurytel.net> wrote: 

=============
Hi Tim, NGK stock #7333 is the same as BP6ES, both numbers are on the 
side of the silver box sitting in front of me, hope this helps.. Bill

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Wed Jul 23 06:49:42 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:49:42 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] spark plugs
In-Reply-To: <20080722195724.HUPLB.19776.root@fepweb10>
Message-ID: <E1KLdmn-0000qZ-QN@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi Tim,
I never have any problem getting BP6ES NGK plugs at O'Reilly, Auto Zone, or
Advance Auto. Always in stock, not terribly expensive, and readily
available. 
Matt Smith
Chattanooga TN

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:57 PM
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] spark plugs

I have read that the BP6ES is recommended for my 1600. I went to get a
(backup) set the other day and the guy at my local tried to to tell me that
the "NGK 73333" --that he showed me on his screen-- was the same plug. I
didn't believe him and said thanks any way as I have never seen "73333"
mentioned as a comaprable plug. 

Does any one recognize this NGK number? And what stores have the BP6ES in
stock? I got a set from NAPA once but the one closest to me is only open 3
hours a weekend and never when I need to go there during a weekend.

TIA

Tim
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From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Wed Jul 23 07:17:01 2008
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:17:01 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
References: <000801c8ec87$90e3d6d0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <001401c8ecc6$6571dda0$6500a8c0@LAP120>

I worked with civil engineers at Black & Veatch for more than twenty years.
One in particular that I liked working with and whom I respected, once wrote
a "spec" sheet for some motor driven equipment for a water treatment plant
project. He consistently spelled out "moter" numerous times in the document.
Good thing it was proofread by others before it was published.
Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker / 5 speed


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" <aultgc at att.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:47 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling


> Sorry.  I couldn't help myself.
>
> Some person has a windshield washer "nosel" for sale on eBay.  My
grandfather,
> for whom I have tremendous respect, never got past the 6th grade.  His
> spelling was better.  How do these people get along in a modern world?
> ("Nosel" wasn't misspelled once; the spelling was consistent throughout
the
> listing.)
>
> Gary
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From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov  Wed Jul 23 07:28:44 2008
From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03))
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:28:44 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
In-Reply-To: <001401c8ecc6$6571dda0$6500a8c0@LAP120>
References: <000801c8ec87$90e3d6d0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
	<001401c8ecc6$6571dda0$6500a8c0@LAP120>
Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76C63E1A@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>

 I think it is a "left brain - right brain" thing.  Engineers can not
spell well - this one included.  If it was not for spell-check people
would have good time with me:)

I am generally pretty creative, but I do have "gaps".  I started taking
guitar lessons and this has really helped exercise the left brain.  I am
finding my designs come easier and more often.  Now if I had the time to
build all this stuff....

Have a great Roadster week everyone!

Phil
SEROC

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of MH
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:17 AM
To: Gary and Cindy Ault; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling

I worked with civil engineers at Black & Veatch for more than twenty
years.
One in particular that I liked working with and whom I respected, once
wrote a "spec" sheet for some motor driven equipment for a water
treatment plant project. He consistently spelled out "moter" numerous
times in the document.
Good thing it was proofread by others before it was published.
Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker / 5 speed


----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" <aultgc at att.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:47 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling


> Sorry.  I couldn't help myself.
>
> Some person has a windshield washer "nosel" for sale on eBay.  My
grandfather,
> for whom I have tremendous respect, never got past the 6th grade.  His
> spelling was better.  How do these people get along in a modern world?
> ("Nosel" wasn't misspelled once; the spelling was consistent
throughout
the
> listing.)
>
> Gary
> __

From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul 23 07:49:08 2008
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:49:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
In-Reply-To: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76C63E1A@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <636519.80704.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

An old-timer with whom I worked when I was a youngster (I guess that I qualify as an "old-timer" now, come to think of it - with 27 years as an engineer under my belt...) was a notoriously bad speller. He came up in the profession in the days when you wrote out letters and reports by hand, and they were typed by a secretary - who knew how to spell.

I like to think that I am the exception that proves the rule ("prove" from the Latin "probat", meaning test...) - I scored in the 99th percentile on the SAT in English, and once, when I pointed out an obscure error in grammar in a company publication to a senior tech writer (who is a former high school English teacher), was asked - "Are you sure that you're an engineer?"

Correct spelling and proper grammar are dropping by the wayside in the modern world, unfortunately. Even folks who use words for a living - television commentators (especially sports commentators) and the like - rarely have a strong grasp of the fundamentals of the language (Every time I hear some talking head on the boob tube say, "He played good out there today", I want to scream.)

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

"Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)" <Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov> wrote:  I think it is a "left brain - right brain" thing.  Engineers can not
spell well - this one included.  If it was not for spell-check people
would have good time with me:)

I am generally pretty creative, but I do have "gaps".  I started taking
guitar lessons and this has really helped exercise the left brain.  I am
finding my designs come easier and more often.  Now if I had the time to
build all this stuff....

Have a great Roadster week everyone!

Phil
SEROC

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of MH
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:17 AM
To: Gary and Cindy Ault; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling

I worked with civil engineers at Black & Veatch for more than twenty
years.
One in particular that I liked working with and whom I respected, once
wrote a "spec" sheet for some motor driven equipment for a water
treatment plant project. He consistently spelled out "moter" numerous
times in the document.
Good thing it was proofread by others before it was published.
Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker / 5 speed


----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:47 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling


> Sorry.  I couldn't help myself.
>
> Some person has a windshield washer "nosel" for sale on eBay.  My
grandfather,
> for whom I have tremendous respect, never got past the 6th grade.  His
> spelling was better.  How do these people get along in a modern world?
> ("Nosel" wasn't misspelled once; the spelling was consistent
throughout
the
> listing.)
>
> Gary
> __
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From chalsted at comcast.net  Wed Jul 23 07:50:47 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:50:47 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
References: <000801c8ec87$90e3d6d0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
	<001401c8ecc6$6571dda0$6500a8c0@LAP120>
Message-ID: <006c01c8eccb$1dd82580$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

I picked up a 95 Bonneville recently for cheap A/C wheels.. when it gets low 
on fuel a light comes on that says "check gages"  I always thought the word 
was spelled "gauges"......don't they ever check this stuff? I notice so many 
typos on AP news stories and in newspapers... spell check can tell you if a 
word is spelled right but not syntax or usage- there, their, they're... 
spell check will interchange them all if you don't know which one is correct 
to your usage in the first place...just tells you that the word you're using 
appears in the language, not if it's the right word for how you're using it.

Craig 

From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul 23 07:55:46 2008
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:55:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
In-Reply-To: <006c01c8eccb$1dd82580$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
Message-ID: <974557.56943.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The word can be spelled either way - "gage" and "gauge" are both correct.

Isn't English a fun language?

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

chalsted <chalsted at comcast.net> wrote: I picked up a 95 Bonneville recently for cheap A/C wheels.. when it gets low 
on fuel a light comes on that says "check gages"  I always thought the word 
was spelled "gauges"......don't they ever check this stuff? I notice so many 
typos on AP news stories and in newspapers... spell check can tell you if a 
word is spelled right but not syntax or usage- there, their, they're... 
spell check will interchange them all if you don't know which one is correct 
to your usage in the first place...just tells you that the word you're using 
appears in the language, not if it's the right word for how you're using it.

Craig 
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From jswedlow at gmail.com  Wed Jul 23 07:57:41 2008
From: jswedlow at gmail.com (Jim Swedlow)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:57:41 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
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But Spell Checkers are not always the answer:

Eye halve a spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea
It plainly marquees four my revue
Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.

Eye strike a key and type a word
And weight four it two say
Weather eye am wrong oar write
It shows me strait a weigh.

As soon as a mist ache is maid
It nose bee fore two long
And eye can put the error rite
Its rare lea ever wrong.

Eye have run this poem threw it
I am shore your pleased two no
Its letter perfect awl the weigh
My chequer tolled me sew.

From James at jdfogg.com  Wed Jul 23 08:26:45 2008
From: James at jdfogg.com (James Fogg)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:26:45 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
Message-ID: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A9220E7@sbs.jdfogg.com>

> The word can be spelled either way - "gage" and "gauge" are both
correct.
>
> Isn't English a fun language?


I've spoken to several English majors who did well in school and they
cannot answer a simple question I've had for years....

In the movie "Star Wars", is Yoda's grammar accepted as "correct", as in
complying with the grammatical rules of English.

Answer my question you will, or embarrassment will be yours I say.

(btw - my Word grammar checker flagged that previous sentence as
incorrect).

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Jul 23 09:19:49 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:19:49 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] link to first good pix of SPL213-00004
In-Reply-To: <002701c8ec7e$262b3760$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
Message-ID: <4EF76D4471254402B8F883C1AE788763@xp>

A little Simple Green, a wash 'n' wax, and she'll be ready to go! <g>

Pete

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Behalf Of chalsted
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:25 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] link to first good pix of SPL213-00004


http://rides.webshots.com/album/564198375rAulSl

From racery at comcast.net  Wed Jul 23 09:24:40 2008
From: racery at comcast.net (racery at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:24:40 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] NGK spark plugs
Message-ID: <072320081524.16420.48874D380003935F000040242209229927979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net>

Actually-
BP6ES plugs have had the '7333' stocking number on the box of four for some time now.

This recently changed in the parts system at the local store where I get mine, too-
the plugs in the box still said BP6ES on them...

fwiw,
Toby

I have read that the BP6ES is recommended for my 1600. I went to get a
(backup) set the other day and the guy at my local tried to to tell me that
the "NGK 73333" --that he showed me on his screen-- was the same plug. I
didn't believe him and said thanks any way as I have never seen "73333"
mentioned as a comaprable plug. 

From razmataz at indy.net  Wed Jul 23 09:29:18 2008
From: razmataz at indy.net (Stan Rasmussen)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:29:18 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] NGK spark plugs
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Message-ID: <005c01c8ecd8$e0415c10$97cce004@YOURCCFEA0C05A>

Are the BP6ES also correct for 2000's?  Thanks - Raz in Indy

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Behalf Of racery at comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:25 AM
To: roadster list
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] NGK spark plugs


Actually-
BP6ES plugs have had the '7333' stocking number on the box of four for
some time now.

This recently changed in the parts system at the local store where I get
mine, too- the plugs in the box still said BP6ES on them...

fwiw,
Toby

I have read that the BP6ES is recommended for my 1600. I went to get a
(backup) set the other day and the guy at my local tried to to tell me
that the "NGK 73333" --that he showed me on his screen-- was the same
plug. I didn't believe him and said thanks any way as I have never seen
"73333" mentioned as a comaprable plug. 
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From dhyson at charter.net  Wed Jul 23 09:45:01 2008
From: dhyson at charter.net (Durf & Sue Hyson)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:45:01 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] NGK spark plugs
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For what it's worth NGK's 4 digit numerical part number exists as a 
solution to the problem of how computers sort lists versus the way the 
spark plug part numbers are formatted. As the information coded in the 
actual spark plug part number became more complicated the P/N got longer 
and became inconsistent in it's make-up . The advent of computers 
keeping inventories  , being used to print lists , store drawings etc. 
created a problem with sorting. The simplest most efficient cure at the 
time and going forward was to assign each descriptive part number a 
simple numerical code. This got them around a computer's inability to 
sort by anything but physical position. it is something all the plug 
manufacturers have done for the same reason. Plugs will still have their 
B (long thread) P (projected nose) R (resistor) 6 (heat range) etc.part 
numbers so you can tell what they are.

Thanks,
Durf

racery at comcast.net wrote:
> Actually-
> BP6ES plugs have had the '7333' stocking number on the box of four for some time now.

From dhyson at charter.net  Wed Jul 23 09:46:30 2008
From: dhyson at charter.net (Durf & Sue Hyson)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:46:30 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] [Fwd: Re:  spark plugs]
Message-ID: <48875256.1020309@charter.net>

Somehow I managed to not send this to the list !

-------- Original Message --------

	

	

	

	

	



Realizing that I am coming real late to this discussion I would like to 
throw in one thing. Now that we're 25 years past all the voodoo and old 
wives tales. I suggest you do yourself and pretty much the rest of the 
civilized world a favor and use the resistor plug BPR6ES . Everyone with 
a cellphone , computer , computer game , TV , radio , Walkman . 
Blackberry , Wi-fi , etc. , etc . will thank you. They will not effect 
or hurt the car nor will they need to be replaced more often. Look at it 
this way . Your lawnmower has a resistor plug , shouldn't your car ?
And why you ask does the manual say to use BP6ES ? Because it's the same 
manual that has you using shellac to seal paper gaskets and grease to 
seal cork ones. They don't even suggest silicone sealer .... despite the 
fact they will later have one of if not the very best ones on the market 
! (999MP-A7007 I think) We've come a little ways since the manual was 
written , sometimes for the better ! They may eve be easier to find.

Thanks,
Durf

Matthew A. Smith wrote:
> Hi Tim,
> I never have any problem getting BP6ES NGK plugs at O'Reilly, Auto Zone, or
> Advance Auto.

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Jul 23 09:56:08 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:56:08 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] [Fwd: Re:  spark plugs]
In-Reply-To: <48875256.1020309@charter.net>
Message-ID: <1F57AB82D93E46139E9C28E4555E11F8@xp>

So -NOT- using a resistor plug will mess with the
I'm-too-busy-talking-to-pay-attention-to-my-driving folks?

EXCELLENT!!!!

Pete

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[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Durf & Sue Hyson
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:47 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] [Fwd: Re: spark plugs]


Realizing that I am coming real late to this discussion I would like to
throw in one thing. Now that we're 25 years past all the voodoo and old
wives tales. I suggest you do yourself and pretty much the rest of the
civilized world a favor and use the resistor plug BPR6ES . Everyone with a
cellphone , computer , computer game , TV , radio , Walkman . Blackberry ,
Wi-fi , etc. , etc . will thank you. 

[snip]

Thanks,
Durf

Matthew A. Smith wrote:
> Hi Tim,
> I never have any problem getting BP6ES NGK plugs at O'Reilly, Auto 
> Zone, or Advance Auto.
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From sandhoff at csus.edu  Wed Jul 23 10:44:55 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:44:55 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] spark plugs - resistor vs non-resistor
In-Reply-To: <48875256.1020309@charter.net>
Message-ID: <4886FD97.2279.A986FD9@localhost>

It was written:
> I suggest you do yourself and pretty much the rest of the 
> civilized world a favor and use the resistor plug BPR6ES.

The overall point of the original posting is quite accurate - the
resistance reduces the generation of EMI (electromagnetic interference).
More of a problem in the days of AM radios :-)

BUT...
Check your plug wires first.

The rule is you should use resistor wires, OR resistor plugs,
but not both. So if you have installed resistor wires at some point,
then resistor plugs are redundant and contraindicated.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Wed Jul 23 11:27:00 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:27:00 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] spark plugs - resistor vs non-resistor
In-Reply-To: <4886FD97.2279.A986FD9@localhost>
Message-ID: <8CABB00732DAB54-1CBC-37AC@webmail-nb09.sysops.aol.com>

 Hmmm, this is interesting. Isn't most wire, except racing wire, resistor? So if you use a resistor plug, what would happen? I think most people use the resistor plugs automatically, thinking to eliminate interference with radios etc. Why are the two together bad?

Linda


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: John F Sandhoff <sandhoff at csus.edu>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 9:44 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spark plugs - resistor vs non-resistor










It was written:
> I suggest you do yourself and pretty much the rest of the 
> civilized world a favor and use the resistor plug BPR6ES.

The overall point of the original posting is quite accurate - the
resistance reduces the generation of EMI (electromagnetic interference).
More of a problem in the days of AM radios :-)

BUT...
Check your plug wires first.

The rule is you should use resistor wires, OR resistor plugs,
but not both. So if you have installed resistor wires at some point,
then resistor plugs are redundant and contraindicated.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA
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From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov  Wed Jul 23 11:43:07 2008
From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03))
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:43:07 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
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LOL - good one.  And why my dictionary is worn.  I am a pro at using the
wrong word,,, that spell-check lets by.  Do you think Windows 3000 will
have mind reading capabilities?  :)

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.net] On Behalf Of Jim Swedlow
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:58 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling

But Spell Checkers are not always the answer:

Eye halve a spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea
It plainly marquees four my revue
Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.

Eye strike a key and type a word
And weight four it two say
Weather eye am wrong oar write
It shows me strait a weigh.

As soon as a mist ache is maid
It nose bee fore two long
And eye can put the error rite
Its rare lea ever wrong.

Eye have run this poem threw it
I am shore your pleased two no
Its letter perfect awl the weigh
My chequer tolled me sew.
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From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 23 11:58:05 2008
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:58:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
Message-ID: <290784.15208.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

this reminds me of when i once saw the following on the the TV screen:

"Your watching Channel 56!"  i mean, how do you get a job in television, if you can't spell the contraction of you + are?

s
675MIZU


----- Original Message ----
From: Jim Swedlow <jswedlow at gmail.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 6:57:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling

But Spell Checkers are not always the answer:

Eye halve a spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea
It plainly marquees four my revue
Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.

Eye strike a key and type a word
And weight four it two say
Weather eye am wrong oar write
It shows me strait a weigh.

As soon as a mist ache is maid
It nose bee fore two long
And eye can put the error rite
Its rare lea ever wrong.

Eye have run this poem threw it
I am shore your pleased two no
Its letter perfect awl the weigh
My chequer tolled me sew.
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From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul 23 12:18:45 2008
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:18:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
In-Reply-To: <290784.15208.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <509277.37965.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Mixing up "your" and "you're", "its" and "it's" and similar instances of the correct use of the apostrophe are among the most common of grammatical errors.

For more on the subject, read "Eats, Shoots  &  Leaves: The Zero Tolerance Approach to Punctuation"         by Lynne Truss - it's a very funny and readable book on the subject of grammar and punctuation.

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

steven boortz <vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com> wrote: this reminds me of when i once saw the following on the the TV screen:

"Your watching Channel 56!"  i mean, how do you get a job in television, if you can't spell the contraction of you + are?

s
675MIZU


----- Original Message ----
From: Jim Swedlow 
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 6:57:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling

But Spell Checkers are not always the answer:

Eye halve a spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea
It plainly marquees four my revue
Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.

Eye strike a key and type a word
And weight four it two say
Weather eye am wrong oar write
It shows me strait a weigh.

As soon as a mist ache is maid
It nose bee fore two long
And eye can put the error rite
Its rare lea ever wrong.

Eye have run this poem threw it
I am shore your pleased two no
Its letter perfect awl the weigh
My chequer tolled me sew.
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From sandhoff at csus.edu  Wed Jul 23 12:24:57 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:24:57 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] spark plugs - resistor vs non-resistor
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References: <4886FD97.2279.A986FD9@localhost>
Message-ID: <48871509.20824.AF40568@localhost>

In the olden days (think 60's detroit iron, dual points and ballast
resistors), the rule was resistor wire OR resistor plug.

In discussing modern day cars, I'm not sure if that holds any more.
A quick web search turns up things like "You must use resistor spark
plugs & wires in any vehicle that uses electronic ignitions or on-board
computer systems... using a non-resistor plug or low resistance spiral
wound spark plug wire in most applications may actually cause the
engine to suffer undesirable side effects..."

I'm all for resistor plug wires. I'll leave it to others to decide if 
resistor
plugs are also called for.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From rekeen at mtu.edu  Wed Jul 23 15:27:11 2008
From: rekeen at mtu.edu (Robert Keen)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:27:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling
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	<002401c8eccc$147bcb80$3d736280$@com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807231720350.7314@bios6.bio.mtu.edu>

The story behind the poem can be found on this web site:

<http://www.bios.niu.edu/zar/zar.shtml>

See the right-hand column headed "Spelling Checker Poem.

--Bob
68 1600
Chassell (Upper Peninsula) Michigan

====================================
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, Jim Swedlow wrote:

> But Spell Checkers are not always the answer:
>
> Eye halve a spelling chequer
> It came with my pea sea
> It plainly marquees four my revue
> Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.
>
> Eye strike a key and type a word
> And weight four it two say
> Weather eye am wrong oar write
> It shows me strait a weigh.
>
> As soon as a mist ache is maid
> It nose bee fore two long
> And eye can put the error rite
> Its rare lea ever wrong.
>
> Eye have run this poem threw it
> I am shore your pleased two no
> Its letter perfect awl the weigh
> My chequer tolled me sew.

From tputland at charter.net  Wed Jul 23 12:59:40 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:59:40 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] spark plugs - resistor vs non-resistor
In-Reply-To: <48871509.20824.AF40568@localhost>
Message-ID: <20080723145940.3985X.38176.root@fepweb10>

This is new to me: (then again most of it is new to me)

"You must use resistor spark plugs & wires in any vehicle that uses electronic ignitions..."

I run a BG EI dizzy in both of my running Roadsters. While reading the install directions, I do not remember reading that resistor plugs or wires needed to be used. Did I miss that step?

Do I need to be worried about this to the point that I should not drive either car until I get the proper parts?

Thanks

Tim

---- John F Sandhoff <sandhoff at csus.edu> wrote: 

=============
In the olden days (think 60's detroit iron, dual points and ballast
resistors), the rule was resistor wire OR resistor plug.

In discussing modern day cars, I'm not sure if that holds any more.
A quick web search turns up things like "You must use resistor spark
plugs & wires in any vehicle that uses electronic ignitions or on-board
computer systems... using a non-resistor plug or low resistance spiral
wound spark plug wire in most applications may actually cause the
engine to suffer undesirable side effects..."

I'm all for resistor plug wires. I'll leave it to others to decide if 
resistor
plugs are also called for.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA
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From stebharvey at ameritech.net  Wed Jul 23 17:36:01 2008
From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:36:01 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
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Message-ID: <000001c8ed1c$dea87bb0$9bf97310$@net>

Being a technical writer and having worked with hundreds of engineers over
the years I've seen some good ones:

A heading in an instruction manual: "Assemble the assembly"

A Chinese machine tool manual: "Adjust ball screw until you reach top of
mountain"

MASH episode: Cut red wire, but first........

From jim at seattle-attorney.com  Wed Jul 23 18:13:20 2008
From: jim at seattle-attorney.com (Jim Anable)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:13:20 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Pinion seal
Message-ID: <4887C920.8070002@seattle-attorney.com>

I've got my 1970 2-liter in a brake shop.  The mechanic said that the 
pinion seal is "really bad," and wants to know if I can locate the 
part.  A local guy that I trust says that it's a fairly standard item to 
replace, once they pull it out to see exactly what it is.  But the shop 
is reluctant to do that.  So...

Does anybody know exactly what it takes and where I can source the part 
before the mechanic pulls the old one.

From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Wed Jul 23 19:09:19 2008
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:09:19 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Pinion seal
References: <4887C920.8070002@seattle-attorney.com>
Message-ID: <06ee01c8ed29$e6e70140$6500a8c0@LAP120>

I've replaced that seal on my car myself. It was a fairly easy task, but I'm
not a certified mechanic. I better leave it to the more experienced list
members to explain to you how to replace this seal. If the pinion shaft is
grooved from using the commonly available, and narrow lipped aftermarket
seal instead of the wider Nissan version, they'll also need to explain about
using "Redi-sleeves" or "Speed-sleeves"..... Anyone?
Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker / 5-speed

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Anable" <jim at seattle-attorney.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:13 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Pinion seal


> I've got my 1970 2-liter in a brake shop.  The mechanic said that the
> pinion seal is "really bad," and wants to know if I can locate the
> part.  A local guy that I trust says that it's a fairly standard item to
> replace, once they pull it out to see exactly what it is.  But the shop
> is reluctant to do that.  So...
>
> Does anybody know exactly what it takes and where I can source the part
> before the mechanic pulls the old one.
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From Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com  Wed Jul 23 19:34:15 2008
From: Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com (Pat)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:34:15 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
In-Reply-To: <000001c8ed1c$dea87bb0$9bf97310$@net>
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	<001401c8ecc6$6571dda0$6500a8c0@LAP120>
	<006c01c8eccb$1dd82580$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
	<002401c8eccc$147bcb80$3d736280$@com>
	<000001c8ed1c$dea87bb0$9bf97310$@net>
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Back some 25 years ago I was involved in the installation of a couple of 
Japanese-manufactured printers. One manual said was ILLEGAL to block the 
air vents on top of it, instead on DON'T block the vents. The other 
manual was so difficult to understand how to set the DIP switches that I 
started reading the manual from the beginning. Not a single sentence 
made sense. By page 20 it started making sense. When I got to page 60, 
where the DIP switch settings were documented, I could tell what they 
were talking about! It's really bad when you have to train your mind to 
understand what someone else has written in English!

I may still have those manuals, I'll have to look for them.

Peace,
Pat

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> Being a technical writer and having worked with hundreds of engineers over
> the years I've seen some good ones:
>
> A heading in an instruction manual: "Assemble the assembly"
>
> A Chinese machine tool manual: "Adjust ball screw until you reach top of
> mountain"
>
> MASH episode: Cut red wire, but first........
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From vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 23 21:00:11 2008
From: vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com (Vince Strazzabosco)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:00:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Vinces 66 junkyard special Update
In-Reply-To: <674586.68143.qm@web59304.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <863857.35291.qm@web33507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Just to update the folks on this car...

The owner found the key and brought it to the junkyard Monday.  They called me yesterday (Tuesday).

I went over and checked out what I could with the key.  It works in every lock but the console (?), and the trunk contained some cheesy wire-wheel hubcaps, and old Road America brochure, and a spare white wall Bridgestone that looks like the original spare.  The rust in the trunk wasn't as bad as I expected; a good sandblasting will take care of it with little perforation that I could find in the bottom corners.

I connected the battery, and surprise, the engine turns over when I turn the key!  It sounds like all it needs is fresh gas to run.  Inside the oil fill cap the engine looks clean.  Coolant in the radiator is full and bright green.

The asking price is $1500, I offered the guy at the junkyard $500, claiming the car is pretty rusty and while mostly complete, it also needs lots of work.  He didn't seem to be real pleased, and I left.  He's got my number, and I would not be surprised if I hear from him in a few days, nor would I not be surprised if I don't hear from him.

I need to sell something else to make room, anyway.  It has been a pleasure being on this list and I enjoy having such a group to turn to for info and other car stuff.

We'll see what happens, and I'll keep the list informed.

Thanks,

vince


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> Subject: [Roadsters] Vinces 66 junkyard special
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 10:07 AM
> I agree, $500.00 would be a fair price for the 66 as
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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Wed Jul 23 23:14:50 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:14:50 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
In-Reply-To: <002401c8eccc$147bcb80$3d736280$@com>
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Gary McCormick just blew an artery reading that poem...

And to be proper, wouldn't a "gage" belong in the glove compartment?
Thought I'd throw that one down. :)

Phil, I tried guitar, it was ugly. I went back to cars. I think I have 2
left brains (or right ones, can't remember which does what).

I'm not highly educated, just High School and Automotive Tech School,
one of those "C" students in the leather jacket who missed English class
to finish up in auto shop. (But a National Merit Scholar from SAT
scores)  Mistyping on a forum etc., OK, we are all human, but the things
Gary mentioned, bad grammar and spelling becoming the accepted norm,
makes me NUTS.  I try to avoid eBay sellers who spell like that on
principle.

My boss refers to it as "forward thinkers", like an installer or an
engineer, those who build, and "reverse thinkers", repair technicians,
auto mechanics, those who can diagnose and repair.  Rarely do people
have both talents.  The forward thinkers tend to spell better.  I would
defiantly be the reverse thinker.  It's a chore for me to type to my own
standards.

Dave Brisco
EastCoastRoadster.com




-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Swedlow [mailto:jswedlow at gmail.com] 
 
But Spell Checkers are not always the answer:

Eye halve a spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea
It plainly marquees four my revue
Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.

Eye strike a key and type a word
And weight four it two say
Weather eye am wrong oar write
It shows me strait a weigh.

As soon as a mist ache is maid
It nose bee fore two long
And eye can put the error rite
Its rare lea ever wrong.

Eye have run this poem threw it
I am shore your pleased two no
Its letter perfect awl the weigh
My chequer tolled me sew.

From roadster at astound.net  Thu Jul 24 00:08:41 2008
From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:08:41 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
In-Reply-To: <000801c8ec87$90e3d6d0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
References: <000801c8ec87$90e3d6d0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <334A84D6-6F57-4E41-A026-10DF216ACFC4@astound.net>

A while back (okay, years) a technician I supervised always wrote  
"mircowave" instead of "microwave". We had some microwave antennas on  
the roof and associated equipment to maintain. He misspelled lots of  
words, but this one in particular drove me nuts for years. Never could  
get him to write it correctly. He insisted he was doing it right and  
would voice out the letters correctly. A brain problem. Highly  
intelligent otherwise.

Sorry, no Dotsun content.

Fred - So.SF

From AffordPlbg at aol.com  Thu Jul 24 00:09:05 2008
From: AffordPlbg at aol.com (AffordPlbg at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:09:05 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
Message-ID: <d0b.2c772422.35b97681@aol.com>

Hi all,
 
This is Nancy, Gary Wasserman's wife. I usually have no interest in  anything 
written on this list.  Tonight, however, Gary called me  in and said, "Honey, 
there's something here I think you'll want to read."   Well, I've read every 
response and haven't stopped smiling yet!
 
My father's nickname is "The Chief of the Grammar Police" and I am my  
father's daughter!  Misspelled words jump out at me when I'm reading  anything.  I 
can't enjoy a nice restaurant meal without finding typos on  the menu.  I want 
to take photos of store signs that have misspellings,  because I think they're 
so ridiculous.
 
Gary and I recently hired a tile installer to do some work at our  house.  He 
gave me several contracts to read and sign, and I found many  mistakes on 
each one.  Of course, I had to point them out to him!   Even his newly printed 
business card had the word "buisness" on it, and although  he said he asked many 
people to proof it, nobody caught it.  How can this  be?
 
Besides "its" versus "it's," I think my biggest pet peeve is the misuse of  
the word I.  Yes, we all learn in school that one does not say, "Me and  Gary 
went to the park," but rather "Gary and I went to the park."  Unless  the "I" 
is part of the object, however, the use of the word "me" is usually  correct.  
"She went to the park with Gary and I" is not right.  The  way one checks is 
to take away the other person.  You wouldn't say, "She  went to the park with 
I," but rather, "She went to the park with me."  So,  the correct sentence is, 
"She went to the park with Gary and me."
 
Okay, I'm through boring you.  I just thought I'd put in my two  cents.  
Thanks for talking about something besides Datsun Roadsters for a  change.
 
Nancy Person (Yes, I am a teacher)



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From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 24 00:21:16 2008
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:21:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
Message-ID: <18433.62138.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

i'm lysdexic too.


----- Original Message ----
From: Fred Katz <roadster at astound.net>
To: Gary and Cindy Ault <aultgc at att.net>
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:08:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling

A while back (okay, years) a technician I supervised always wrote  
"mircowave" instead of "microwave". We had some microwave antennas on  
the roof and associated equipment to maintain. He misspelled lots of  
words, but this one in particular drove me nuts for years. Never could  
get him to write it correctly. He insisted he was doing it right and  
would voice out the letters correctly. A brain problem. Highly  
intelligent otherwise.

Sorry, no Dotsun content.

Fred - So.SF
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From haabu at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jul 24 01:06:59 2008
From: haabu at sbcglobal.net (Herb Petty)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:06:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] spelling
Message-ID: <165150.30409.qm@web81807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Go Get'em  Nancy     I love it.
   
  Herb                 in Modesto, hi gary.

From Walter.Peterson at cox.net  Thu Jul 24 01:25:26 2008
From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter Peterson)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:25:26 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] link to first good pix of SPL213-00004
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References: <002701c8ec7e$262b3760$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
Message-ID: <003001c8ed5e$71f43e40$55dcbac0$@Peterson@cox.net>

What's the story with the Super Charged V8 Roadster?  What motor is that and
where are the rest of the pics?  Looks like a sweet package.
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2498271240103773287doXKju


Walt Peterson


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Behalf Of chalsted
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:25 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] link to first good pix of SPL213-00004

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From Walter.Peterson at cox.net  Thu Jul 24 01:52:27 2008
From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter Peterson)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:52:27 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] spelling
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"To air on the side of caution".  I just caught a follow engineer write this
in a report before he could send it out; and his mother is an English
teacher!


Walter Peterson
Goleta Ca, 93117


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Subject: [Roadsters] spelling

Go Get'em  Nancy     I love it.
   
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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Thu Jul 24 04:26:09 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:26:09 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
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-----Original Message-----

Nancy Person (Yes, I am a teacher)
--------------------------


  All together now; 

GOOD MORNING MRS. PERSON!





Paul
Ohio

From Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com  Thu Jul 24 04:40:28 2008
From: Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com (Pat)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:40:28 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] spelling
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References: <165150.30409.qm@web81807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<003201c8ed62$37f77000$a7e65000$@Peterson@cox.net>
Message-ID: <48885C1C.4080003@HorneSystemsTx.com>

What about "At this point in time", or "irregardless", which just pass 
the spelling checker!

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Walter Peterson:
> "To air on the side of caution".  I just caught a follow engineer write this
> in a report before he could send it out; and his mother is an English
> teacher!
>
>
> Walter Peterson
> Goleta Ca, 93117
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Herb Petty
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:07 AM
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From tputland at charter.net  Thu Jul 24 05:21:59 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 4:21:59 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
In-Reply-To: <d0b.2c772422.35b97681@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20080724072159.6BONG.52421.root@fepweb10>

My "favorite" misuse of our language is    "your a hard worker". I see this all the time.

I had a 3.99 gpa in college when I went back about five years ago and aced the English entrance test for new/returning students AND still clueless after all these years. But I do remember the lesson on "me vs. I" to which Nancy referred: the removal of the other person. 

It is too early for English lessons.

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- AffordPlbg at aol.com wrote: 

=============
Hi all,
 
This is Nancy, Gary Wasserman's wife. I usually have no interest in  anything 
written on this list.  Tonight, however, Gary called me  in and said, "Honey, 
there's something here I think you'll want to read."   Well, I've read every 
response and haven't stopped smiling yet!
 
My father's nickname is "The Chief of the Grammar Police" and I am my  
father's daughter!  Misspelled words jump out at me when I'm reading  anything.  I 
can't enjoy a nice restaurant meal without finding typos on  the menu.  I want 
to take photos of store signs that have misspellings,  because I think they're 
so ridiculous.
 
Gary and I recently hired a tile installer to do some work at our  house.  He 
gave me several contracts to read and sign, and I found many  mistakes on 
each one.  Of course, I had to point them out to him!   Even his newly printed 
business card had the word "buisness" on it, and although  he said he asked many 
people to proof it, nobody caught it.  How can this  be?
 
Besides "its" versus "it's," I think my biggest pet peeve is the misuse of  
the word I.  Yes, we all learn in school that one does not say, "Me and  Gary 
went to the park," but rather "Gary and I went to the park."  Unless  the "I" 
is part of the object, however, the use of the word "me" is usually  correct.  
"She went to the park with Gary and I" is not right.  The  way one checks is 
to take away the other person.  You wouldn't say, "She  went to the park with 
I," but rather, "She went to the park with me."  So,  the correct sentence is, 
"She went to the park with Gary and me."
 
Okay, I'm through boring you.  I just thought I'd put in my two  cents.  
Thanks for talking about something besides Datsun Roadsters for a  change.
 
Nancy Person (Yes, I am a teacher)



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From andycost at embarqmail.com  Thu Jul 24 05:20:01 2008
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:20:01 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] spelling
In-Reply-To: <48885C1C.4080003@HorneSystemsTx.com>
Message-ID: <JBEKJICFFOFCBHHGLNFDOEIIDEAA.andycost@embarqmail.com>

My roommate and I got into a heated debate in college.  There were two sets
of items in a box.  He wanted to know which set I was describing.  I said
"these are those".  He said "these are they".  Decades later it is still a
point of contention.  I think he was right but I never capitulated.

Andy

From chalsted at comcast.net  Thu Jul 24 05:41:52 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:41:52 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] spelling
References: <JBEKJICFFOFCBHHGLNFDOEIIDEAA.andycost@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <006b01c8ed82$44f7c8c0$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

are you sure it wasn't "these are them" ?     ;-)

just posted more pix of the supercharged roadster on webshots

Craig

From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 24 05:50:54 2008
From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:50:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
In-Reply-To: <20080724072159.6BONG.52421.root@fepweb10>
Message-ID: <958087.28644.qm@web63709.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Nancy (and all), The misuse of I/me is very common, but recently I have noticed a lot of people on TV, including Anchors (who do not even write their own stuff) misusing he/him and her/she.  It is everywhere.  As in "Him and I were discussing X", or "That was a surprise to she and I"
(how about to her and me, which sounds odd only because no one ever does it correctly, it would seem).  What a language!

Mike SC


> Hi all,
>  
> This is Nancy, Gary Wasserman's wife. I usually have no
> interest in  anything 
> written on this list.  Tonight, however, Gary called me  in
> and said, "Honey, 
> there's something here I think you'll want to
> read."   Well, I've read every 
> response and haven't stopped smiling yet!
>  
> My father's nickname is "The Chief of the Grammar
> Police" and I am my  
> father's daughter!  Misspelled words jump out at me
> when I'm reading  anything.  I 
> can't enjoy a nice restaurant meal without finding
> typos on  the menu.  I want 
> to take photos of store signs that have misspellings, 
> because I think they're 
> so ridiculous.
>  
> Gary and I recently hired a tile installer to do some work
> at our  house.  He 
> gave me several contracts to read and sign, and I found
> many  mistakes on 
> each one.  Of course, I had to point them out to him!  
> Even his newly printed 
> business card had the word "buisness" on it, and
> although  he said he asked many 
> people to proof it, nobody caught it.  How can this  be?
>  
> Besides "its" versus "it's," I
> think my biggest pet peeve is the misuse of  
> the word I.  Yes, we all learn in school that one does not
> say, "Me and  Gary 
> went to the park," but rather "Gary and I went to
> the park."  Unless  the "I" 
> is part of the object, however, the use of the word
> "me" is usually  correct.  
> "She went to the park with Gary and I" is not
> right.  The  way one checks is 
> to take away the other person.  You wouldn't say,
> "She  went to the park with 
> I," but rather, "She went to the park with
> me."  So,  the correct sentence is, 
> "She went to the park with Gary and me."
>  
> Okay, I'm through boring you.  I just thought I'd
> put in my two  cents.  
> Thanks for talking about something besides Datsun Roadsters
> for a  change.
>  
> Nancy Person (Yes, I am a teacher)

From chuckkyle at mac.com  Thu Jul 24 05:51:00 2008
From: chuckkyle at mac.com (Charles Kyle)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:51:00 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
In-Reply-To: <d0b.2c772422.35b97681@aol.com>
Message-ID: <C4ADD6D4.F8DB%chuckkyle@mac.com>

That's okay Nancy.  The shop where I take the Datsun for repair, if I am not
doing it my self, has a big sign out front that reads, Mac's Automotive - We
specialize in foriegn cars

Chuck


On 7/24/08 1:09 AM, "AffordPlbg at aol.com" <AffordPlbg at aol.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>  
> This is Nancy, Gary Wasserman's wife. I usually have no interest in  anything
> written on this list.  Tonight, however, Gary called me  in and said, "Honey,
> there's something here I think you'll want to read."   Well, I've read every
> response and haven't stopped smiling yet!
>  
> My father's nickname is "The Chief of the Grammar Police" and I am my
> father's daughter!  Misspelled words jump out at me when I'm reading
> anything.  I 
> can't enjoy a nice restaurant meal without finding typos on  the menu.  I want
> to take photos of store signs that have misspellings,  because I think they're
> so ridiculous.
>  
> Gary and I recently hired a tile installer to do some work at our  house.  He
> gave me several contracts to read and sign, and I found many  mistakes on
> each one.  Of course, I had to point them out to him!   Even his newly printed
> business card had the word "buisness" on it, and although  he said he asked
> many 
> people to proof it, nobody caught it.  How can this  be?
>  
> Besides "its" versus "it's," I think my biggest pet peeve is the misuse of
> the word I.  Yes, we all learn in school that one does not say, "Me and  Gary
> went to the park," but rather "Gary and I went to the park."  Unless  the "I"
> is part of the object, however, the use of the word "me" is usually  correct.
> "She went to the park with Gary and I" is not right.  The  way one checks is
> to take away the other person.  You wouldn't say, "She  went to the park with
> I," but rather, "She went to the park with me."  So,  the correct sentence is,
> "She went to the park with Gary and me."
>  
> Okay, I'm through boring you.  I just thought I'd put in my two  cents.
> Thanks for talking about something besides Datsun Roadsters for a  change.
>  
> Nancy Person (Yes, I am a teacher)
> 
> 
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From Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com  Thu Jul 24 05:59:38 2008
From: Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com (Pat)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:59:38 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] spelling
In-Reply-To: <48885C1C.4080003@HorneSystemsTx.com>
References: <165150.30409.qm@web81807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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	<48885C1C.4080003@HorneSystemsTx.com>
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My Grammar always told me to proofread what I write! Must have been too 
early when I wrote my previous post!

Where's my coffee cup?

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Pat:
> What about "At this point in time", or "irregardless", which just passED 
> the spelling checker!
>
> Peace,
> Pat
>
> Thusly spake Walter Peterson:
>   
>> "To air on the side of caution".  I just caught a follow engineer write this
>> in a report before he could send it out; and his mother is an English
>> teacher!
>>
>>
>> Walter Peterson
>> Goleta Ca, 93117
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Behalf Of Herb Petty
>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:07 AM
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>> Subject: [Roadsters] spelling
>>
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From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 06:39:57 2008
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:39:57 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling
In-Reply-To: <d0b.2c772422.35b97681@aol.com>
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GOOD JOB NANCY!
Oh sorry me forgot raise my hand :o)

I for one appreciate the Police work you do.

 By the way, is  Antiestablishmentdisenterism  spelled right?

Chris






On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:09 PM, <AffordPlbg at aol.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> This is Nancy, Gary Wasserman's wife. I usually have no interest in
>  anything
> written on this list.  Tonight, however, Gary called me  in and said,
> "Honey,
> there's something here I think you'll want to read."   Well, I've read
> every
> response and haven't stopped smiling yet!
>
> My father's nickname is "The Chief of the Grammar Police" and I am my
> father's daughter!  Misspelled words jump out at me when I'm reading
>  anything.  I
> can't enjoy a nice restaurant meal without finding typos on  the menu.  I
> want
> to take photos of store signs that have misspellings,  because I think
> they're
> so ridiculous.
>
> Gary and I recently hired a tile installer to do some work at our  house.
>  He
> gave me several contracts to read and sign, and I found many  mistakes on
> each one.  Of course, I had to point them out to him!   Even his newly
> printed
> business card had the word "buisness" on it, and although  he said he asked
> many
> people to proof it, nobody caught it.  How can this  be?
>
> Besides "its" versus "it's," I think my biggest pet peeve is the misuse of
> the word I.  Yes, we all learn in school that one does not say, "Me and
>  Gary
> went to the park," but rather "Gary and I went to the park."  Unless  the
> "I"
> is part of the object, however, the use of the word "me" is usually
>  correct.
> "She went to the park with Gary and I" is not right.  The  way one checks
> is
> to take away the other person.  You wouldn't say, "She  went to the park
> with
> I," but rather, "She went to the park with me."  So,  the correct sentence
> is,
> "She went to the park with Gary and me."
>
> Okay, I'm through boring you.  I just thought I'd put in my two  cents.
> Thanks for talking about something besides Datsun Roadsters for a  change.
>
> Nancy Person (Yes, I am a teacher)
>
>
>
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If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky
enough.

From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jul 24 07:35:12 2008
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:35:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] spelling
In-Reply-To: <JBEKJICFFOFCBHHGLNFDOEIIDEAA.andycost@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <947670.88372.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/thesearethem.html

Although only the pickiest listeners will cringe when you say these are them, the traditionally correct phrase is these are they, because they is the predicate nominative of these. However, if people around you seem more comfortable with its me than its I, you might as well stick with these are them.

Andy Cost <andycost at embarqmail.com> wrote: My roommate and I got into a heated debate in college.  There were two sets
of items in a box.  He wanted to know which set I was describing.  I said
"these are those".  He said "these are they".  Decades later it is still a
point of contention.  I think he was right but I never capitulated.

Andy
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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Thu Jul 24 07:52:32 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:52:32 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] spelling
Message-ID: <c29.394a46b5.35b9e320@aol.com>

I always thought that the word public without the L should not be  included 
in spelling checkers. It causes way too much amusement when misused and  the 
few folks who need it can add it to their dictionary. 
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 7/24/2008 6:42:11 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
gkmcc at sbcglobal.net writes:

http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/thesearethem.html

Although  only the pickiest listeners will cringe when you say these are 
them, the  traditionally correct phrase is these are they, because they is 
the  predicate nominative of these. However, if people around you seem more  
comfortable with its me than its I, you might as well stick with these  
are them.

Andy Cost <andycost at embarqmail.com> wrote: My roommate  and I got into a 
heated debate in college.  There were two sets
of  items in a box.  He wanted to know which set I was describing.  I  said
"these are those".  He said "these are they".  Decades later  it is still a
point of contention.  I think he was right but I never  capitulated.

Andy
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From jhatt at inreach.com  Wed Jul 23 22:04:07 2008
From: jhatt at inreach.com (paul hatter)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:04:07 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] spelling
Message-ID: <000201c8ed9a$6bc554a0$c97b3542@paul5345n942ga>

People are who not that. A teacher

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jul 24 08:36:35 2008
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:36:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
In-Reply-To: <008001c8ed4c$34f332b0$6800a8c0@delled48909442>
Message-ID: <131215.99183.qm@web82802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

i'm a "reverse thinker" and i am an excellent speller and grammarian.
   
  (which is a real word btw)

dave <daveandlindab at comcast.net> wrote:
  Gary McCormick just blew an artery reading that poem...

And to be proper, wouldn't a "gage" belong in the glove compartment?
Thought I'd throw that one down. :)

Phil, I tried guitar, it was ugly. I went back to cars. I think I have 2
left brains (or right ones, can't remember which does what).

I'm not highly educated, just High School and Automotive Tech School,
one of those "C" students in the leather jacket who missed English class
to finish up in auto shop. (But a National Merit Scholar from SAT
scores) Mistyping on a forum etc., OK, we are all human, but the things
Gary mentioned, bad grammar and spelling becoming the accepted norm,
makes me NUTS. I try to avoid eBay sellers who spell like that on
principle.

My boss refers to it as "forward thinkers", like an installer or an
engineer, those who build, and "reverse thinkers", repair technicians,
auto mechanics, those who can diagnose and repair. Rarely do people
have both talents. The forward thinkers tend to spell better. I would
defiantly be the reverse thinker. It's a chore for me to type to my own
standards.

Dave Brisco
EastCoastRoadster.com

From chalsted at comcast.net  Thu Jul 24 09:57:54 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:57:54 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] more photos and albums on webshots
Message-ID: <000601c8eda6$0924f470$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

Holy Cow- have had over 2900 hits on my photos since I started posting them on
the 20th!  just added more, hope you enjoy- my albums are at
http://community.webshots.com/user/672000
more pix of the supercharged roadster
RL411 album loading up now
Auburn Cord Duesenburg museum great as a slideshow

Craig

From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jul 24 13:56:30 2008
From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:56:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Wheel fit?
Message-ID: <212323.87480.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

To the wheel gurus---Would 15x6.5+18 or 15x7+11 fit the rear of our cars? Saw some SSR Longchamps listed. Where are you Victor?

From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com  Thu Jul 24 14:11:15 2008
From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:11:15 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
In-Reply-To: <000001c8ed1c$dea87bb0$9bf97310$@net>
Message-ID: <C4AE2FF3.D50A%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>

Reminds me of assembling that bike on Christmas Eve. The promise was:
"Assembles in two easy steps".  But the instructions read: 1. Remove
contents from box. 2. Assemble bike.


On 7/23/08 4:36 PM, "Steve Harvey" <stebharvey at ameritech.net> wrote:

> Being a technical writer and having worked with hundreds of engineers over
> the years I've seen some good ones:
> 
> A heading in an instruction manual: "Assemble the assembly"
> 
> A Chinese machine tool manual: "Adjust ball screw until you reach top of
> mountain"
> 
> MASH episode: Cut red wire, but first........
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From gogineni.alvin at gene.com  Thu Jul 24 14:51:16 2008
From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:51:16 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Wheel fit?
In-Reply-To: <212323.87480.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <212323.87480.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003201c8edcf$04286af0$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com>

I think you'll be safe with 15x6.5 +18 in back. 
15x7 +11 will rub the outer fender no doubt.

Id they are SSR XR-4s then some fender massaging is well worth it!!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tom PRATHER
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:57 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Wheel fit?

To the wheel gurus---Would 15x6.5+18 or 15x7+11 fit the rear of our cars?
Saw some SSR Longchamps listed. Where are you Victor?
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From roadster at astound.net  Thu Jul 24 15:28:32 2008
From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:28:32 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Pics for sale
In-Reply-To: <006b01c8ed82$44f7c8c0$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
References: <JBEKJICFFOFCBHHGLNFDOEIIDEAA.andycost@embarqmail.com>
	<006b01c8ed82$44f7c8c0$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
Message-ID: <BB7B453F-FB55-4D4A-BA55-F8D3311289B9@astound.net>

Hey Craig,

You can make money on those pix!  Someone's asking for money for 2 b/w  
pics of an ordinary 1600 on eBay. Supercharged pics should be worth a  
buck more!

Look up "Photos - Datsun 1600 Roadster"

http://cgi.ebay.com/Photos-Datsun-1600-Roadster_W0QQitemZ380047701707QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item380047701707

Fred - So.SF

On Jul 24, 2008, at 4:41 AM, chalsted wrote:

> are you sure it wasn't "these are them" ?     ;-)
>
> just posted more pix of the supercharged roadster on webshots
>
> Craig

From bubwin at mts.net  Thu Jul 24 15:35:29 2008
From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:35:29 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
In-Reply-To: <131215.99183.qm@web82802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <131215.99183.qm@web82802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0A5EF62E626A43F5BB916462B2130CDA@ownerPC>

You forgot to capitalize the "I".

Bob Winslade
1966-1600 Missy
1967-1600 Bender

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "oliver" <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
To: "dave" <daveandlindab at comcast.net>; "'Jim Swedlow'" 
<jswedlow at gmail.com>; <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling


> i'm a "reverse thinker" and i am an excellent speller and grammarian.
>
>  (which is a real word btw)
>
> dave <daveandlindab at comcast.net> wrote:
>  Gary McCormick just blew an artery reading that poem...
>
> And to be proper, wouldn't a "gage" belong in the glove compartment?
> Thought I'd throw that one down. :)
>
> Phil, I tried guitar, it was ugly. I went back to cars. I think I have 2
> left brains (or right ones, can't remember which does what).
>
> I'm not highly educated, just High School and Automotive Tech School,
> one of those "C" students in the leather jacket who missed English class
> to finish up in auto shop. (But a National Merit Scholar from SAT
> scores) Mistyping on a forum etc., OK, we are all human, but the things
> Gary mentioned, bad grammar and spelling becoming the accepted norm,
> makes me NUTS. I try to avoid eBay sellers who spell like that on
> principle.
>
> My boss refers to it as "forward thinkers", like an installer or an
> engineer, those who build, and "reverse thinkers", repair technicians,
> auto mechanics, those who can diagnose and repair. Rarely do people
> have both talents. The forward thinkers tend to spell better. I would
> defiantly be the reverse thinker. It's a chore for me to type to my own
> standards.
>
> Dave Brisco
> EastCoastRoadster.com
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu Jul 24 15:41:06 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:41:06 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
Message-ID: <072420082141.24891.4888F6F20000FD0F0000613B2200750744CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Yo tambien. <g>

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: oliver <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
> i'm a "reverse thinker" and i am an excellent speller and grammarian.
>    
>   (which is a real word btw)
> 
> dave <daveandlindab at comcast.net> wrote:

[snip]
> 
> My boss refers to it as "forward thinkers", like an installer or an
> engineer, those who build, and "reverse thinkers", repair technicians,
> auto mechanics, those who can diagnose and repair. Rarely do people
> have both talents. The forward thinkers tend to spell better. I would
> defiantly be the reverse thinker. It's a chore for me to type to my own
> standards.
> 
> Dave Brisco
> EastCoastRoadster.com

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 24 18:30:29 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:30:29 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
In-Reply-To: <958087.28644.qm@web63709.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <20080724072159.6BONG.52421.root@fepweb10>
	<958087.28644.qm@web63709.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY106-W5EF813915D3DD51CF0DD8DF860@phx.gbl>

And MY pet peeve(s)

MAY v. CAN ( you MAY have my permission as long as you CAN( are able) to do
it.
LESS v. FEWER  (less is singular ( as in less Time ) and Fewer is plural ( as
in fewer sheep )

Peter




> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:50:54 -0700> From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com> To:
AffordPlbg at aol.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; tputland at charter.net> CC:
Onegarlic1 at aol.com; lesliehobbs at earthlink.net; DutchJoo at aol.com> Subject: Re:
[Roadsters] OT: Spelling> > Nancy (and all), The misuse of I/me is very
common, but recently I have noticed a lot of people on TV, including Anchors
(who do not even write their own stuff) misusing he/him and her/she. It is
everywhere. As in "Him and I were discussing X", or "That was a surprise to
she and I"> (how about to her and me, which sounds odd only because no one
ever does it correctly, it would seem). What a language!> > Mike SC> > > > Hi
all,> > > > This is Nancy, Gary Wasserman's wife. I usually have no> >
interest in anything > > written on this list. Tonight, however, Gary called
me in> > and said, "Honey, > > there's something here I think you'll want to>
> read." Well, I've read every > > response and haven't stopped smiling yet!>
> > > My father's nickname is "The Chief of the Grammar> > Police" and I am my
> > father's daughter! Misspelled words jump out at me> > when I'm reading
anything. I > > can't enjoy a nice restaurant meal without finding> > typos on
the menu. I want > > to take photos of store signs that have misspellings, > >
because I think they're > > so ridiculous.> > > > Gary and I recently hired a
tile installer to do some work> > at our house. He > > gave me several
contracts to read and sign, and I found> > many mistakes on > > each one. Of
course, I had to point them out to him! > > Even his newly printed > >
business card had the word "buisness" on it, and> > although he said he asked
many > > people to proof it, nobody caught it. How can this be?> > > > Besides
"its" versus "it's," I> > think my biggest pet peeve is the misuse of > > the
word I. Yes, we all learn in school that one does not> > say, "Me and Gary > >
went to the park," but rather "Gary and I went to> > the park." Unless the "I"
> > is part of the object, however, the use of the word> > "me" is usually
correct. > > "She went to the park with Gary and I" is not> > right. The way
one checks is > > to take away the other person. You wouldn't say,> > "She
went to the park with > > I," but rather, "She went to the park with> > me."
So, the correct sentence is, > > "She went to the park with Gary and me."> > >
> Okay, I'm through boring you. I just thought I'd> > put in my two cents. > >
Thanks for talking about something besides Datsun Roadsters> > for a change.>
> > > Nancy Person (Yes, I am a teacher)>
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 24 18:36:07 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:36:07 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
In-Reply-To: <18433.62138.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <18433.62138.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY106-W34F730FC6BB41A6A61B97ADF860@phx.gbl>

Of course an argument could me made for 'antennae' as opposed to 'antennas'
then we would be forced to use 'millenia' and indeed 'fora'. ANd how many
people remember that data is plural?

> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:21:16 -0700> From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com>
To: roadster at astound.net; aultgc at att.net> CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling> > i'm lysdexic too.> > > ----- Original
Message ----> From: Fred Katz <roadster at astound.net>> To: Gary and Cindy Ault
<aultgc at att.net>> Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Sent: Wednesday, July
23, 2008 11:08:41 PM> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling> > A while back
(okay, years) a technician I supervised always wrote > "mircowave" instead of
"microwave". We had some microwave antennas on > the roof and associated
equipment to maintain. He misspelled lots of > words, but this one in
particular drove me nuts for years. Never could > get him to write it
correctly. He insisted he was doing it right and > would voice out the letters
correctly. A brain problem. Highly > intelligent otherwise.> > Sorry, no
Dotsun content.> > Fred - So.SF> You are subscribed as
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu Jul 24 18:57:18 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:57:18 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
Message-ID: <072520080057.7046.488924EE00003B2200001B862200734830CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

I'm still wondering about "time" and "sheep"...... <g>

Pete "new 2nd shift slacker"

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: peter harrison <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>

Of course an argument could me made for 'antennae' as opposed to 'antennas' then we would be forced to use 'millenia' and indeed 'fora'. ANd how many people remember that data is plural?

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: peter harrison <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>

And MY pet peeve(s)

MAY v. CAN ( you MAY have my permission as long as you CAN( are able) to do it.

LESS v. FEWER (less is singular ( as in less Time ) and Fewer is plural ( as in fewer sheep )

Peter

From DatsunDoc at aol.com  Thu Jul 24 19:34:11 2008
From: DatsunDoc at aol.com (DatsunDoc at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:34:11 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] List topic
Message-ID: <d30.361a86ed.35ba8793@aol.com>

This is the most list activity I've seen in quite some time. I can remember  
when this was the Datsun Roadster list instead of the English 101 list. 
Watkins  Glen is just a little over a month away. I hope everyone has their cars 
ready  for the trip, regardless of how you spell or punctuate it...
 
Mike



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From joek at camberconstruction.com  Thu Jul 24 19:52:55 2008
From: joek at camberconstruction.com (Joe Kinstle)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:52:55 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
In-Reply-To: <002401c8eccc$147bcb80$3d736280$@com>
References: <000801c8ec87$90e3d6d0$6402a8c0@gaxp1><001401c8ecc6$6571dda0$6500a8c0@LAP120><006c01c8eccb$1dd82580$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
	<002401c8eccc$147bcb80$3d736280$@com>
Message-ID: <00e901c8edf9$285c5b00$0202a8c0@lapjoek>

I saw a sign next to Home Despot that said "Proffetional Roofing". I didn't
bother to right down the number, even though I could use a new roof.  By
far, the funniest things I have ever seen re: bad spelling is during trips
to Thailand.  Everything has bad spelling, be it a map, street sign or bar
menu in a 5 star restaurant. Even ATM's in English are goofy.  Sometimes I
think it is intentional.

Back to re-painting the trunk on the roadster.

Joe Kinstle
68 2L
BLK SRL

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Thu Jul 24 20:12:51 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:12:51 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
In-Reply-To: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76CAB362@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>
References: <000801c8ec87$90e3d6d0$6402a8c0@gaxp1><001401c8ecc6$6571dda0$6500a8c0@LAP120><006c01c8eccb$1dd82580$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
	<002401c8eccc$147bcb80$3d736280$@com>
	<85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76CAB362@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <001e01c8edfb$f1dd8560$d5989020$@net>

They've been working on the PsUI (Psychic User Interface, pronounced
"Sooee") for some time, but without much success. The program is too much of
a pig.

:-)

Gordon Glasgow
-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:43 AM
To: Jim Swedlow; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling

LOL - good one.  And why my dictionary is worn.  I am a pro at using the
wrong word,,, that spell-check lets by.  Do you think Windows 3000 will
have mind reading capabilities?  :)

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Thu Jul 24 20:24:02 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:24:02 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
In-Reply-To: <18433.62138.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <18433.62138.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002401c8edfd$81245590$836d00b0$@net>

Bumper sticker I saw: "Dyslexics of the world, Untie!"

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of steven boortz
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:21 PM
To: Fred Katz; Gary and Cindy Ault
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling

i'm lysdexic too.


----- Original Message ----
From: Fred Katz <roadster at astound.net>
To: Gary and Cindy Ault <aultgc at att.net>
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:08:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling

A while back (okay, years) a technician I supervised always wrote  
"mircowave" instead of "microwave". We had some microwave antennas on  
the roof and associated equipment to maintain. He misspelled lots of  
words, but this one in particular drove me nuts for years. Never could  
get him to write it correctly. He insisted he was doing it right and  
would voice out the letters correctly. A brain problem. Highly  
intelligent otherwise.

Sorry, no Dotsun content.

Fred - So.SF
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From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jul 24 20:59:27 2008
From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:59:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1961 Datsun SPL213...in INDIA
Message-ID: <220862.73757.qm@web81702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hard to believe, but hoping the find out the story about this one. Jaywant Chowgule, in India owns a 1961 Datsun Fairlady which was restored by Ashvek Vintage World in Goa , India.

Here is a picture of Ashvek's shop. In the very far right you can see a glimpse of the red roadster.

http://ashvekvintageworld.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/showroom11.jpg



Dan Zubkoff
Houston, TX

From aultgc at att.net  Thu Jul 24 21:26:34 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:26:34 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
References: <18433.62138.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<002401c8edfd$81245590$836d00b0$@net>
Message-ID: <004d01c8ee06$3d6d3200$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

I had no idea I would start so much discourse.  But now, Gordon's message 
reminded me about the dyslexic, agnostic, insomniac philosopher.....






(Scroll Down)











He stayed awake all night contemplating the existence of Dog.

(Sorry)
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
To: "'steven boortz'" <vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com>; "'Fred Katz'" 
<roadster at astound.net>; "'Gary and Cindy Ault'" <aultgc at att.net>
Cc: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:24 PM
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling


> Bumper sticker I saw: "Dyslexics of the world, Untie!"
>
> Gordon Glasgow
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of steven boortz
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:21 PM
> To: Fred Katz; Gary and Cindy Ault
> Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling
>
> i'm lysdexic too.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Fred Katz <roadster at astound.net>
> To: Gary and Cindy Ault <aultgc at att.net>
> Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:08:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
>
> A while back (okay, years) a technician I supervised always wrote
> "mircowave" instead of "microwave". We had some microwave antennas on
> the roof and associated equipment to maintain. He misspelled lots of
> words, but this one in particular drove me nuts for years. Never could
> get him to write it correctly. He insisted he was doing it right and
> would voice out the letters correctly. A brain problem. Highly
> intelligent otherwise.
>
> Sorry, no Dotsun content.
>
> Fred - So.SF
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu Jul 24 21:47:09 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:47:09 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
Message-ID: <072520080347.17952.48894CBD0007E5C2000046202200734076CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

That's it. NO SOUP FOR YOU! <g>

Pete "I wonder if Dan "potato" Quayle is on YouTube?"

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" <aultgc at att.net>
> I had no idea I would start so much discourse.  But now, Gordon's message 
> reminded me about the dyslexic, agnostic, insomniac philosopher.....
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> (Scroll Down)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> He stayed awake all night contemplating the existence of Dog.
> 
> (Sorry)
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
> To: "'steven boortz'" <vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com>; "'Fred Katz'" 
> <roadster at astound.net>; "'Gary and Cindy Ault'" <aultgc at att.net>
> Cc: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:24 PM
> Subject: RE: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling
> 
> 
> > Bumper sticker I saw: "Dyslexics of the world, Untie!"
> >
> > Gordon Glasgow
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
> > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
> > Behalf Of steven boortz
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:21 PM
> > To: Fred Katz; Gary and Cindy Ault
> > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling
> >
> > i'm lysdexic too.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Fred Katz <roadster at astound.net>
> > To: Gary and Cindy Ault <aultgc at att.net>
> > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:08:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
> >
> > A while back (okay, years) a technician I supervised always wrote
> > "mircowave" instead of "microwave". We had some microwave antennas on
> > the roof and associated equipment to maintain. He misspelled lots of
> > words, but this one in particular drove me nuts for years. Never could
> > get him to write it correctly. He insisted he was doing it right and
> > would voice out the letters correctly. A brain problem. Highly
> > intelligent otherwise.
> >
> > Sorry, no Dotsun content.
> >
> > Fred - So.SF
> > You are subscribed as vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com
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From pete_303 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 24 21:55:34 2008
From: pete_303 at yahoo.com (matthew peterson)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:55:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Starter problems
Message-ID: <432382.83403.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi everyone,
I have a project roadster that I've been working on off and on
(mostly off) for the last few years.  It has an L20b engine in it but I think
this question should still pertain to the roadster list.
When I turn the key
to start the engine, I can hear the starter spin but it doesn't seem to be
engaging the flywheel.  It worked fine a few years ago, then it started to
engage it off and on so I took it in to get fixed.  Today was the first time
I've gotten to test it since I got it "fixed" a couple of years ago and now it
won't engage the flywheel at all.
I'm thinking that it's either a bad solenoid
or else it's not getting enough power to activate the solenoid.  From what
I've read on 510 websites, some people have put a relay between the
solenoid/starter and the ignition to get around a similer (or possibly the
same problem).
If anyone can help stear me in the right direction I'd really
appreciate it.  I feel like this car will never get back on the road!
Thanks,
Matt Peterson
'68 1600 (L20b)
Houston, MN

From bubwin at mts.net  Thu Jul 24 22:43:51 2008
From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:43:51 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] List topic
In-Reply-To: <d30.361a86ed.35ba8793@aol.com>
References: <d30.361a86ed.35ba8793@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BB1CC45AA1CD4F5EB4CAEF37E508732C@ownerPC>

Everyone getting ready should dot all the "i's" and cross all the "t's" to 
ensure a great time.

Bob
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <DatsunDoc at aol.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:34 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] List topic


> This is the most list activity I've seen in quite some time. I can 
> remember
> when this was the Datsun Roadster list instead of the English 101 list.
> Watkins  Glen is just a little over a month away. I hope everyone has 
> their cars
> ready  for the trip, regardless of how you spell or punctuate it...
>
> Mike
>
>
>
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From bubwin at mts.net  Thu Jul 24 22:53:34 2008
From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:53:34 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
In-Reply-To: <BAY106-W34F730FC6BB41A6A61B97ADF860@phx.gbl>
References: <18433.62138.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<BAY106-W34F730FC6BB41A6A61B97ADF860@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <10EAD59A787F4737B749F14BD6030CB6@ownerPC>

No problem, antennae are a sensitive outgrowth on the head of an insect or 
crustacean.

Bob
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "peter harrison" <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling


> Of course an argument could me made for 'antennae' as opposed to 
> 'antennas'
> then we would be forced to use 'millenia' and indeed 'fora'. ANd how many
> people remember that data is plural?
>
>> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:21:16 -0700> From: 
>> vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com>
> To: roadster at astound.net; aultgc at att.net> CC: 
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling> > i'm lysdexic too.> > > -----  
> Original
> Message ----> From: Fred Katz <roadster at astound.net>> To: Gary and Cindy 
> Ault
> <aultgc at att.net>> Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Sent: Wednesday, 
> July
> 23, 2008 11:08:41 PM> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling> > A while 
> back
> (okay, years) a technician I supervised always wrote > "mircowave" instead 
> of
> "microwave". We had some microwave antennas on > the roof and associated
> equipment to maintain. He misspelled lots of > words, but this one in
> particular drove me nuts for years. Never could > get him to write it
> correctly. He insisted he was doing it right and > would voice out the 
> letters
> correctly. A brain problem. Highly > intelligent otherwise.> > Sorry, no
> Dotsun content.> > Fred - So.SF> You are subscribed as
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From sandhoff at csus.edu  Fri Jul 25 00:39:59 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:39:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Starter problems
In-Reply-To: <432382.83403.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <432382.83403.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807242338050.9225@netserv.csus.edu>

> ...I can hear the starter spin but it doesn't seem to be engaging
> the flywheel...  it's either a bad solenoid or else it's not getting
> enough power to activate the solenoid.

If the starter spins, the solenoid has already pulled in.
You've got something broken in the solenoid or Bendix.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu  Sacramento, CA

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Fri Jul 25 05:35:04 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:35:04 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Starter problems
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807242338050.9225@netserv.csus.edu>
References: <432382.83403.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807242338050.9225@netserv.csus.edu>
Message-ID: <00bc01c8ee4a$7e786870$7b693950$@net>

If the starter spins, the solenoid has already pulled in.
You've got something broken in the solenoid or Bendix.

-- John
--------------------------------

  Sounds like a bad Bendix.  Have you tried a smack with a hammer yet?
Might just be stuck from sitting.

Paul
Ohio

From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 25 06:01:11 2008
From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:01:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Starter problems
In-Reply-To: <00bc01c8ee4a$7e786870$7b693950$@net>
Message-ID: <947424.42426.qm@web63707.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Probably dried up old grease sticking the Bendix.  BTDT

Mike SC


--- On Fri, 7/25/08, Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote:

> From: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter problems
> To: "'John F Sandhoff'" <sandhoff at csus.edu>, "'matthew peterson'" <pete_303 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "'roadster list'" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 7:35 AM
> If the starter spins, the solenoid has already pulled in.
> You've got something broken in the solenoid or Bendix.
> 
> -- John
> --------------------------------
> 
>   Sounds like a bad Bendix.  Have you tried a smack with a
> hammer yet?
> Might just be stuck from sitting.
> 
> Paul
> Ohio
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From dhyson at charter.net  Fri Jul 25 07:00:25 2008
From: dhyson at charter.net (Durf & Sue Hyson)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:00:25 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
In-Reply-To: <10EAD59A787F4737B749F14BD6030CB6@ownerPC>
References: <18433.62138.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<BAY106-W34F730FC6BB41A6A61B97ADF860@phx.gbl>
	<10EAD59A787F4737B749F14BD6030CB6@ownerPC>
Message-ID: <4889CE69.1070302@charter.net>

Jeez ! I didn't know data was plural . Does that make the statement "I 
didn't know dat ." correct ?

By the way , in some portions of the country it is accepted that the 
"sensitive outgrowth on the head" is where the beer bottle made contact 
..........................

Durf

Bubba wrote:
> No problem, antennae are a sensitive outgrowth on the head of an insect or 
> crustacean.
>   
>>  ANd how many
>> people remember that data is plural?

From chalsted at comcast.net  Fri Jul 25 07:04:05 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:04:05 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
References: <18433.62138.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com><BAY106-W34F730FC6BB41A6A61B97ADF860@phx.gbl><10EAD59A787F4737B749F14BD6030CB6@ownerPC>
	<4889CE69.1070302@charter.net>
Message-ID: <004f01c8ee56$eb7b1790$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

according to spellcheck, "Datsun" is not a word...

Craig
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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Fri Jul 25 07:10:00 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:10:00 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
Message-ID: <c89.2fda2b3a.35bb2aa8@aol.com>

Singular of data is datum.
 
kw
 
 
In a message dated 7/25/2008 6:01:01 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
dhyson at charter.net writes:

Jeez ! I  didn't know data was plural . Does that make the statement "I 
didn't know  dat ." correct ?

By the way , in some portions of the country it is  accepted that the 
"sensitive outgrowth on the head" is where the beer  bottle made contact 
..........................

Durf

Bubba  wrote:
> No problem, antennae are a sensitive outgrowth on the head of  an insect or 
> crustacean.
>   
>>  ANd  how many
>> people remember that data is  plural?
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Jul 25 07:38:11 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:38:11 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Thriller in Willard Fun Run - July 26th
Message-ID: <D163EEDF26C34CB1B8025641E3CE2C19@xp>

Forwarded from the Bluebirds list...

-----Original Message-----
From: bluebirds-request at bluebirds.datsun510.com
[mailto:bluebirds-request at bluebirds.datsun510.com] On Behalf Of
julie at 510coop.com
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:30 PM
To: Bluebird List
Subject: Thriller in Willard Fun Run - July 26th


For those of you in and around the Portland, Oregon/Vancouver, Washington
area there is an awesome Fun Run happening this Saturday, July 26th to a
little town called Willard...my old stompin' grounds.

Meet up around 10am in the parking lot of the Fred Meyer in Vancouver along
Hwy 14. The address is 2500 Columbia House Boulevard, Vancouver Wa. See:
http://www.datsunsnw.org/Events/#Willard for a map.

A thrilling drive along Hwy 14 then up into the hills to negotiate hairpin
turns, steep climbs, and narrow country roads.

Pack a lunch and we'll have a picnic in Willard...because there are no
restaurants in Willard. We'll take a short trip up some even more remote
country roads...you might even see some elk.

We'll head back down to Hwy 14 through Underwood which features more twisty
fun roads and breathtaking views of the Columbia River Gorge. We'll retrace
our route along Hwy 14 with perhaps a side trip through Carson...then back
up over Cape Horn to Vancouver.

It's about 50 miles to the Willard turnoff then another 7 miles up the hill
to Willard.


questions? Email me.

Julie

From chalsted at comcast.net  Fri Jul 25 07:41:37 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:41:37 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 411 and available roadsters
References: <002401c8e737$df241300$9d6c3900$@net>
	<006c01c8e801$b35bfa60$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
	<002f01c8e805$b686fec0$2394fc40$@net>
	<002101c8e809$4ad0d990$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
	<005501c8e80c$8f6f5970$ae4e0c50$@net>
	<000e01c8e8e3$21fae490$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
	<004901c8e93a$56139cc0$023ad640$@net>
	<008301c8ea7d$64af22b0$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
	<000e01c8ea7f$ad3f92b0$07beb810$@net>
	<001201c8ebe7$5fde0e20$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
	<000001c8ebf1$75240640$5f6c12c0$@net>
	<002f01c8ed11$e4e46760$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
	<002d01c8ed2e$66e52170$34af6450$@net>
	<001c01c8ed31$52c17650$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
	<001e01c8ed77$c7b2e3e0$5718aba0$@net>
	<005a01c8ed7e$32daee50$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
	<002e01c8ed86$82abb1f0$880315d0$@net>
	<011801c8eda0$6b1e0960$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
	<005d01c8edb2$0f02ea30$2d08be90$@net>
	<008701c8edb6$477fd590$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
	<009301c8edc5$0194d350$04be79f0$@net>
	<000f01c8ee39$f90c7970$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
	<00bd01c8ee4b$3cbaeba0$b630c2e0$@net>
Message-ID: <008201c8ee5c$2bc630f0$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

I've had a few inquiries about the 411, sorry but that one's already spoken
for. just posted the pix for eye candy but
it's going to a very good home :-)   still have a lot of good project
roadsters available ;-)  1500's both single and dual carb, 1600's including a
20k original mile high windshield and a 35k original mile low windshield,
2000's including a handful of 67.5's, race roadsters...have a couple L20B's
here too if anyone's looking for one. need to pay for my daughter's first 4
college courses by august 6th...she plans to have 2 years of college done by
the time she graduates high school- dual enrollment is pretty cool :-)  she
couldn't wait to be born either- was a 27 week baby... that's 3 months early
if you don't want to count

Craig
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From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jul 25 07:56:09 2008
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:56:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Starter problems
In-Reply-To: <00bc01c8ee4a$7e786870$7b693950$@net>
Message-ID: <743471.51743.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The other day I heard that (a smack with a hammer) referred to as "manual agitation".

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote:
  Sounds like a bad Bendix.  Have you tried a smack with a hammer yet?
Might just be stuck from sitting.

Paul
Ohio
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Jul 25 08:48:57 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:48:57 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] $150 1970 2000 project in Sacramento
Message-ID: <AC70CA26D2B34B4FAB01E937FA359B37@xp>

Don't know nuthin'. Just passing it along:

<http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/768896870.html>

From johnwightman at shaw.ca  Fri Jul 25 09:49:15 2008
From: johnwightman at shaw.ca (John Wightman)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:49:15 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Starter problems
In-Reply-To: <743471.51743.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <743471.51743.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <D64BC558-72D9-4517-9149-3E6EE5F5799F@shaw.ca>

I call that "percussive maintenance"

:-)
On Jul 25, 2008, at 6:56 AM, Gary McCormick wrote:

> The other day I heard that (a smack with a hammer) referred to as  
> "manual agitation".
>
> Gary McCormick
> San Jose, CA
>
> Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote:
>  Sounds like a bad Bendix.  Have you tried a smack with a hammer yet?
> Might just be stuck from sitting.
>
> Paul
> Ohio

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Jul 25 10:11:35 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:11:35 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Starter problems
In-Reply-To: <D64BC558-72D9-4517-9149-3E6EE5F5799F@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <C4A3F470939F445BBF9ECE11BE66F6A4@xp>

I always liked "beat it to $h!t, paint it to fit."

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of John Wightman
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:49 AM
To: Gary McCormick
Cc: roadster list
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter problems


I call that "percussive maintenance"

:-)
On Jul 25, 2008, at 6:56 AM, Gary McCormick wrote:

> The other day I heard that (a smack with a hammer) referred to as
> "manual agitation".
>
> Gary McCormick
> San Jose, CA
>
> Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote:
>  Sounds like a bad Bendix.  Have you tried a smack with a hammer yet? 
> Might just be stuck from sitting.
>
> Paul
> Ohio
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From chalsted at comcast.net  Fri Jul 25 11:39:59 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:39:59 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] SRL311-00402 is sold
Message-ID: <001d01c8ee7d$7630c710$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

for all who have inquired or waited too long, the car is sold and new owner is
delighted to have gotten that quality of a car for the price I offered it out
at. anyone up near Seattle looking for a project high windshield 2000?

Craig
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From cookefam314 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 25 11:47:35 2008
From: cookefam314 at yahoo.com (Dave Cooke)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:47:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Help, I'm snapping off bolt heads!
Message-ID: <821920.36923.qm@web36605.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

While removing the left front frender, I easily sheared off both bolt heads
holding the bottom of the fender near the door. It looks like I still need to
remove the doors to get to the remaining bolts holding on the fender. So,
before I break every bolt on this old car, can someone recommend the proper
way to remove old bolts? The bolts don't look rusted, but since they haven't
ever been removed, I fear I'll break off the next ten I touch with my rachet.
Also, what's the best process to remove the two broken bolts I now have?
 
Dave Cooke
69 1600
Lake In The Hills, IL

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Fri Jul 25 13:13:41 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:13:41 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Help, I'm snapping off bolt heads!
Message-ID: <cd8.32f46aa3.35bb7fe5@aol.com>

One of my favorite rust penetrants is a half and half mix of acetone  and 
ATF. Works well and is cheap to boot. I read about some testing a while back  
where it beat all the high priced stuff. Before removing any body hardware I  
soak them with it and let it sit for a bit. If you can get to both sides even  
better. Once the fastener starts turning shoot a little more on the threads. If  
it turns tight you can spray a little on then turn it back in then back it 
out  again. This works the stuff into the threads. For ones that are really 
tight  warm them with a propane torch then spray. This helps to draw it in. 
 
The ones on the bottom of the fender near the door are often buggers. Water  
tends to get inside the panel and rust the captive nuts and bolt threads. To 
get  the broken ones out, start by soaking them in the rust penetrant and heat 
with  the propane torch. With any luck there will be a little stub left that 
you can  get hold of with a pair of locking pliers and turn them out. Another 
trick is to  weld a nut to the stub so you have something to get a hold of. 
Also, you can  center drill the broken bolt. Sometimes they till turn and just 
run through the  captive nut and fall inside the body panel. I haven't had any 
luck with easy  outs. With some I start with a small drill and go up step at a 
time. With care  you can remove the bolt and leave the threads in the captive 
nut. Then you run a  tap through the hole to clean up the threads. 
 
Once you do get it out stainless hardware with anti-seize or grease on the  
threads will make things easier next time. 
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 7/25/2008 10:48:09 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
cookefam314 at yahoo.com writes:

While  removing the left front frender, I easily sheared off both bolt  heads
holding the bottom of the fender near the door. It looks like I still  need to
remove the doors to get to the remaining bolts holding on the  fender. So,
before I break every bolt on this old car, can someone  recommend the proper
way to remove old bolts? The bolts don't look rusted,  but since they haven't
ever been removed, I fear I'll break off the next  ten I touch with my rachet.
Also, what's the best process to remove the two  broken bolts I now have?

Dave Cooke
69 1600
Lake In The Hills,  IL
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From pete_303 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 25 15:14:32 2008
From: pete_303 at yahoo.com (matthew peterson)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:14:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Starter problems
Message-ID: <555782.70893.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Well, I tried "manually agitating" the solenoid and starter to no avail.  By
the way, what is the "Bendix"?  Should I try replacing just the solenoid or
should I replace the starter/solenoid as a set?
Thanks,
Matt Peterson
Houston, MN



----- Original Message ----
From: Gary McCormick
<gkmcc at sbcglobal.net>
To: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net>; John F Sandhoff
<sandhoff at csus.edu>; matthew peterson <pete_303 at yahoo.com>
Cc: roadster list
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:56:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter problems

The other day I heard that (a smack
with a hammer) referred to as "manual agitation".

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA
Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote:

Sounds like a bad Bendix. Have you tried a
smack with a hammer yet?
Might just be stuck from sitting.

Paul
Ohio
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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Fri Jul 25 15:19:06 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:19:06 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Starter problems
In-Reply-To: <743471.51743.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <00bc01c8ee4a$7e786870$7b693950$@net>
	<743471.51743.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00fa01c8ee9c$151a1980$3f4e4c80$@net>

Manual Agitation?  Is that caused by a lack of manual motivation or manual
agrivation??

 

Paul 

Ohio

 

From: Gary McCormick [mailto:gkmcc at sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:56 AM
To: Paul; 'John F Sandhoff'; 'matthew peterson'
Cc: 'roadster list'
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter problems

 

The other day I heard that (a smack with a hammer) referred to as "manual
agitation".

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote:


Sounds like a bad Bendix. Have you tried a smack with a hammer yet?
Might just be stuck from sitting.

Paul
Ohio
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From haabu at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jul 25 15:33:55 2008
From: haabu at sbcglobal.net (Herb Petty)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:33:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Broken bolts / heads
Message-ID: <687839.73754.qm@web81802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Being a Retired tool & die maker,    I couldn't have said it any better than  Kieth !
  The key word if your kinda new to this, is  ( Patience )   Note,  all of these threads are 
  S.a.e.   American Standard  ( Fine )   At least they were from the facyory !
  Best of luck,
   
  Herb Petty
  Modesto, Ca.

From haabu at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jul 25 15:50:00 2008
From: haabu at sbcglobal.net (Herb Petty)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:50:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] re
Message-ID: <867483.2857.qm@web81803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I really do know how to spell   Factory,    just not good at typing  He he heeeeeee_
  Herb Petty              Sorry Nancy.

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Jul 25 16:49:09 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:49:09 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] What is the Bendix? (was "RE:  Starter problems")
In-Reply-To: <555782.70893.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2461D1E955C046E88A4C32F8D7A85C00@xp>

<http://autorepair.about.com/cs/troubleshooting/l/aa080203b.htm>


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of matthew peterson
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 2:15 PM
To: Gary McCormick; Paul; John F Sandhoff
Cc: roadster list
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter problems


Well, I tried "manually agitating" the solenoid and starter to no avail.  By
the way, what is the "Bendix"?

Should I try replacing just the solenoid or should I replace the
starter/solenoid as a set? Thanks, Matt Peterson Houston, MN



----- Original Message ----
From: Gary McCormick
<gkmcc at sbcglobal.net>
To: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net>; John F Sandhoff <sandhoff at csus.edu>; matthew
peterson <pete_303 at yahoo.com>
Cc: roadster list
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:56:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter problems

The other day I heard that (a smack
with a hammer) referred to as "manual agitation".

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA
Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote:

Sounds like a bad Bendix. Have you tried a
smack with a hammer yet?
Might just be stuck from sitting.

Paul
Ohio
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From JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net  Fri Jul 25 18:10:35 2008
From: JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net (JohnnyRoadster)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:10:35 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Water Pipe
Message-ID: <004401c8eeb4$06f23640$6501a8c0@JohnLaptop>

I cleaned mine off the other day, and it was in OK shape.  But I was thinking
of just making one out of copper pipe and bending it at one end with a pipe
bender, and the sweating a 'T' and bend the other end.  This would be close to
the same shape as an original.

My question is, how hot does it get above the exhaust manifold where this
would be?  This idea would only work if it didn't get too hot to melt the
solder.


SPL311-19356
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From graemes at internode.on.net  Fri Jul 25 19:14:09 2008
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:44:09 +0930
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Speeling.....bileeve it or knot!
In-Reply-To: <000801c8ec87$90e3d6d0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
References: <000801c8ec87$90e3d6d0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <000601c8eebc$ea49da30$236fa8c0@desktop>

 I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The
phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde
Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the
olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit
pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a
porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by
istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh?

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Fri Jul 25 20:38:06 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:38:06 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] What is the Bendix? (was "RE:  Starter  problems")
In-Reply-To: <2461D1E955C046E88A4C32F8D7A85C00@xp>
Message-ID: <8CABCDFC4934B21-260-ADC@webmail-nb07.sysops.aol.com>

 Too complex for me . I need the "Starters for Dummies" link. I'm not ashamed to admit it either. LOL
Linda


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 3:49 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] What is the Bendix? (was "RE:  Starter problems")










<http://autorepair.about.com/cs/troubleshooting/l/aa080203b.htm>

From chalsted at comcast.net  Sat Jul 26 02:04:34 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 04:04:34 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Seattle roadsters and Lotus Super 7
Message-ID: <002101c8eef6$3e9aff90$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

yesterday one of my roadster friends told me he had a friend who always wanted
a Rokon Trail-Breaker so I swapped that and some cash for his friend's project
Lotus Super 7 and a Honda 305 Dream. part of what I do is wish fulfillment,..
so if any of you always wanted to own a Lotus 7, here's a window of
opportunity for you. pix posted on my webshots site. no sheetmetal, gauges,
tires, or engine. car looks pretty naked that way- pretty lightweight too!
:-)  there's a couple 2000's available fairly cheap up near Seattle right now,
guy's asking $2k the pair. both were drivers when parked but outside for a
long time.  one had started to smoke I was told. I'm waiting on photos of
those-  contact me offlist if interested. the Lotus is on the east coast.

Craig
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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Sat Jul 26 07:40:27 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:40:27 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Water Pipe
Message-ID: <bd2.28473c0d.35bc834b@aol.com>

With water in it the temp will never get hot enough to melt solder. I've  
seen copper ones before and they seem to have worked fine. 
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 7/25/2008 5:10:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net writes:

I  cleaned mine off the other day, and it was in OK shape.  But I was  
thinking
of just making one out of copper pipe and bending it at one end  with a pipe
bender, and the sweating a 'T' and bend the other end.   This would be close 
to
the same shape as an original.

My question  is, how hot does it get above the exhaust manifold where this
would  be?  This idea would only work if it didn't get too hot to melt  the
solder.


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From rsgiel at gmail.com  Sat Jul 26 08:43:07 2008
From: rsgiel at gmail.com (ROBERT GIEL)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:43:07 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Speeling.....bileeve it or knot!
Message-ID: <566F81C6-8D24-4676-AA16-2C3B2780BD36@gmail.com>

It may not matter to the human mind,

but my spell checker is having a nervous breakdown!  <Big Grin>

bob
(Still lurking in Los Angeles), w/ 1966  SPL311  1600 Short Windshield

______     _____     _____     ____

On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:44:09 +0930
  "Graeme" <graemes at internode.on.net> wrote:

Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Speeling.....bileeve it or knot!
To: "'Gary and Cindy Ault'" <aultgc at att.net>,
	<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <000601c8eebc$ea49da30$236fa8c0 at desktop>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

  I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was  
rdanieg. The
phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde
Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod  
are, the
olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit
pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a
porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by
istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh?

From Walter.Peterson at cox.net  Sat Jul 26 12:46:12 2008
From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter Peterson)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:46:12 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] spelling (It costs money you know)
In-Reply-To: <00b901c8ee12$7cdc8d30$6800a8c0@delled48909442>
References: <003201c8ed62$37f77000$a7e65000$@Peterson@cox.net>
	<00b901c8ee12$7cdc8d30$6800a8c0@delled48909442>
Message-ID: <002f01c8ef4f$e1ab64a0$a5022de0$@Peterson@cox.net>

OMG, Did I write Follow?  How hilarious indeed!
My spelling skills stink, and I rely heavily on spell checkers which I have
to train due to technical writing.  I usually rewrite & proofread my
documents several times, so missing "Follow" humbles me.  :):)

Another side note to our off Roadster digressions:
	At work, my engineering team calls our CEO/owner "The Professor", as
he corrects all of our documents and grades them.  It's often abusive, but
great!  I work with many young bright engineers with non-English accents,
who need moderate to severe help in writing.  We have Spanish, East Indian,
Chinese & Russian interpretations of English in our emails & documents.  The
best part is we're trying to get ISO certified by the end of the year, so
we're going through every document to clean up English & technical errors.
It has brought up the fact that it costs real money for these errors. We pay
1.5 times for these documents.  The authors time to create it & the
proof-readers time to fix it.


Walt (I wrote & rewrote, spellchecked & re-formatted 3-times) Peterson.


-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Brisco [mailto:EastCoastRoadster at comcast.net] 
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:54 PM
To: 'Walter Peterson'; 'Datsun List.'
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] spelling

This is the most popular subject in years....

Walter, since you were proofreading, weren't you the "follow engineer"?
would he then be the lead engineer? :)

To err is human, but to make a spelling error while commenting on a
grammatical error is a classic. :):)

(I hope I spelled "err" correctly, that would be even funnier.)

Nancy will be deducting points.

Dave Brisco
EastCoastRoadster.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Peterson [mailto:Walter.Peterson at cox.net] 
 
"To air on the side of caution".  I just caught a follow engineer write
this
in a report before he could send it out; and his mother is an English
teacher!


Walter Peterson
Goleta Ca, 93117


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net at autox.team.net]
On
Behalf Of Herb Petty
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:07 AM
To: Datsun List.
Subject: [Roadsters] spelling

Go Get'em  Nancy     I love it.
   
  Herb                 in Modesto, hi gary.
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Sat Jul 26 13:10:44 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:10:44 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] spelling (It costs money you know)
In-Reply-To: <002f01c8ef4f$e1ab64a0$a5022de0$@Peterson@cox.net>
References: <003201c8ed62$37f77000$a7e65000$@Peterson@cox.net>
	<00b901c8ee12$7cdc8d30$6800a8c0@delled48909442>
	<002f01c8ef4f$e1ab64a0$a5022de0$@Peterson@cox.net>
Message-ID: <8CABD6A6FF30757-834-1BD5@webmail-de07.sysops.aol.com>

 Nicely done. A+. Go to the head of the class

Linda


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Peterson <Walter.Peterson at cox.net>
To: 'Dave Brisco' <EastCoastRoadster at comcast.net>; 'Datsun List.' <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:46 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spelling (It costs money you know)










OMG, Did I write Follow?  How hilarious indeed!
My spelling skills stink, and I rely heavily on spell checkers which I have
to train due to technical writing.  I usually rewrite & proofread my
documents several times, so missing "Follow" humbles me.  :):)

Another side note to our off Roadster digressions:
    At work, my engineering team calls our CEO/owner "The Professor", as
he corrects all of our documents and grades them.  It's often abusive, but
great!  I work with many young bright engineers with non-English accents,
who need moderate to severe help in writing.  We have Spanish, East Indian,
Chinese & Russian interpretations of English in our emails & documents.  The
best part is we're trying to get ISO certified by the end of the year, so
we're going through every document to clean up English & technical errors.
It has brought up the fact that it costs real money for these errors. We pay
1.5 times for these documents.  The authors time to create it & the
proof-readers time to fix it.


Walt (I wrote & rewrote, spellchecked & re-formatted 3-times) Peterson.

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Sat Jul 26 13:42:57 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:42:57 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 68 1600 for sale..New Jersey
Message-ID: <000a01c8ef57$ce6fb640$6800a8c0@delled48909442>

I need to sell my "extra" Roadster ASAP, losing the space.  It's a 68, a
decent driver, has some east coast rust issues, but not bad.  Runs
drives stops well, but needs a head gasket.  Car is BRIGHT RED with a
decent white interior.  Has a good high windshield top frame, but
somebody put low windshield canvas on it.  Fits and works, but looks a
bit silly.  Comes with a free hardtop.

 

Will sell for $1600.00 as it is.  I can deliver in the North East, Maine
to Virginia, for actual cost of transport, so gas and $125.00 for the
trailer rental.

 

It's going on Ebay tonight, with a $1600.00 reserve, $2000.00 buy it now
but will have a "subject to local sale" clause.

 

Pictures avail, just email. Or call.

 

Dave Brisco

EastCoastRoadster.com

908-591-9892

From chalsted at comcast.net  Sat Jul 26 14:52:43 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:52:43 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] SPL213-00004 update
Message-ID: <005a01c8ef61$8d1ca4f0$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

I've decided to have the 213 professionally restored, most likely by Ross
Mullen. haven't heard back from him yet, he's unavailable until the 27th. I
have heard back from Barrett-Jackson, they are definitely very interested in
consigning the car when the restoration is complete. 'course they probably
tell everyone that ;-)  they have seen the photos of the car "as found" I gave
Ross rights of first refusal on the car if I decided to sell it, he was the
first to contact me after I bought the car. pretty exciting  :-) one way or
the other I'm looking to have the car done by next summer.

Craig
Datsun Roadsters mostly...
http://community.webshots.com/user/672000

From davesmbox at aol.com  Sat Jul 26 17:00:18 2008
From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:00:18 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] SPL213-00004 update
In-Reply-To: <005a01c8ef61$8d1ca4f0$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
References: <005a01c8ef61$8d1ca4f0$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
Message-ID: <8CABD8A82594366-1634-245D@WEBMAIL-MC10.sysops.aol.com>

Craig
Bite the bullet and keep the car after it's done. There are few greater roadster fans than you. The car belongs in your stable not in the garage of some rich ambulance chaser that wants a trophy to trailer around. Yes you might make a few bucks but I doubt you will make a killing so give the car the home it deserves. YOURS.
Dave M


-----Original Message-----
From: chalsted <chalsted at comcast.net>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 4:52 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] SPL213-00004 update



I've decided to have the 213 professionally restored, most likely by Ross
Mullen. haven't heard back from him yet, he's unavailable until the 27th. I
have heard back from Barrett-Jackson, they are definitely very interested in
consigning the car when the restoration is complete. 'course they probably
tell everyone that ;-)  they have seen the photos of the car "as found" I gave
Ross rights of first refusal on the car if I decided to sell it, he was the
first to contact me after I bought the car. pretty exciting  :-) one way or
the other I'm looking to have the car done by next summer.

Craig
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From JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net  Sat Jul 26 20:03:20 2008
From: JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net (JohnnyRoadster)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:03:20 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Water Pipe
References: <bd2.28473c0d.35bc834b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <009001c8ef8c$f19a99c0$6501a8c0@JohnLaptop>

hanks for the info Keith.  I have pipe sitting around, so I may try to
fabricate something to see how it looks.
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Keith0alan at aol.com
  To: JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net ; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
  Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:40 AM
  Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Water Pipe


  With water in it the temp will never get hot enough to melt solder. I've
seen copper ones before and they seem to have worked fine.

  keith

  In a message dated 7/25/2008 5:10:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net writes:
    I cleaned mine off the other day, and it was in OK shape.  But I was
thinking
    of just making one out of copper pipe and bending it at one end with a
pipe
    bender, and the sweating a 'T' and bend the other end.  This would be
close to
    the same shape as an original.

    My question is, how hot does it get above the exhaust manifold where this
    would be?  This idea would only work if it didn't get too hot to melt the
    solder.


    SPL311-19356
    http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster
    ________________________________________

From tom at datsun2000.com  Sat Jul 26 20:36:23 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:36:23 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Shasta Pix Finally Posted
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGCEFFDFAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

I finally got enough time to put together the pictures I took during the
24th Shasta roadster meet.

They are on datsun2000.com @

www.datsun2000.com/shasta_08

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

From sportsix63 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 26 21:37:17 2008
From: sportsix63 at yahoo.com (jim williams)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:37:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] What Type of Hood Insulation?
Message-ID: <119586.24665.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

What did Datsun use for insulation material under the hood and deck lid of 1600 roadsters?
All I have left is yellow strains of insulation hanging down.
Can the original be purchased somewhere?
Thanks

Jim Williams  Lewisburg, West Virginia

From stathy at shaw.ca  Sat Jul 26 22:53:02 2008
From: stathy at shaw.ca (stan)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:53:02 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb tuning
Message-ID: <000001c8efa4$a6b6c510$6500a8c0@g71901fc8f5974>

Hello all!
Note I will be using spell check with this email.
 
Anyways, I have been trying to tune my SU carbs for my 69-1600 and seem
to have hit a stumbling block.
 
I understand how to set the idle screws for each carb, as well as sync
them using a syncronometer.
I've don't that successfully.
As far as setting the jet height under each carb I haven't figured that
one out yet.
I turned the mixture screw in all the way and then turned it out 2 turns
as suggested on several of the websites.
>From there no adjustments have been made.
 
Here is what I've run into so far:
 
*	the motor fires up fine and idles so-so
*	when I rev the motor slowly the rpm's increase nicely
*	when I punch the motor at low rpm's the motor gasps for air and
several backfire pops occur
 
What I cannot figure out is that at high RPM's I can punch the throttle
and it will respond quite well.
 
What would cause it to backfire so heavily at low rpm's?  I would assume
non-sync'd carbs but as I stated I balanced them out
quite well.
 
If anyone can help me out I would greatly appreciate it.
 
Best regards
 
Cheers from sunny Vancouver, BC
 
Stan

From sandhoff at csus.edu  Sun Jul 27 00:47:27 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 23:47:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb tuning
In-Reply-To: <000001c8efa4$a6b6c510$6500a8c0@g71901fc8f5974>
References: <000001c8efa4$a6b6c510$6500a8c0@g71901fc8f5974>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807262343030.15194@netserv.csus.edu>

> when I punch the motor at low rpm's the motor gasps for air and
> several backfire pops occur

Sounds like there's no oil in the dashpots. Unscrew those little
black plastic caps on top of the domes. Lift the rods out, and drop
them back in. They shouldn't just drop down - they should 'squish'
thru a tiny pool of oil. Add 20W, a splash of engine oil (10w-30),
some Marvel Mystery Oil, or some ATF (any brand auto trans fluid).
Takes only a couple of tablespoons or so.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu  Sacramento, CA

From chalsted at comcast.net  Sun Jul 27 01:10:46 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 03:10:46 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 1600 in Reading California
Message-ID: <001901c8efb7$e42a9a30$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

I got the pix of the Craigslist car this evening and after talking to the
seller sent her a $200 downpayment by PayPal against her asking price of
$3200. balance to be a cashier's check this week. afterwards she sent me
another e-mail about the deal, seemed a bit nervous as she wanted all cash and
my name is unfamiliar to her. I can't access the money until monday to get it
to her tuesday but she seems uncomfortable with the deal now... can someone
who knows me call her off the Craigslist Redding listing and reassure her that
she will get the money as promised by me? I'd really appreciate it. or if
you're nearby and can give her $3k cash for me tomorrow, I'll have the funds
to you by tuesday if you need me to fed ex or however, I have it now. any
assistance anyone can give me is appreciated.. and if there be anyone who
would back door me on the deal, bad karma for you, bummer for me. really, I
don't buy up every roadster in sight. out there only 67.5 1600 or 2000's and
the occasional super rare unusual like SPL213-00004.  I have been looking for
a 67.5 with a nice body that I could afford for quite a while now. might even
use it to rebody SRL311-00006 and drive it to the Glen this fall ;-)  only had
it for 20 plus years...

Craig
Datsun Roadsters mostly...
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From chalsted at comcast.net  Sun Jul 27 06:29:16 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 08:29:16 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Roman Rist?
Message-ID: <019601c8efe4$628c8f60$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

sorry for the bandwidth, if memory serves me right Roman Rist handcrafts and
sells absolutely beautiful acoustic guitars, the kind that almost make you
want to cry with joy and catch your breath when you hold them in your
hands.... anyone know how to reach him these days?  I'm working on a website
and would like to include a link for him if he has a website. I know I saw
photos once upon a time somewhere no worries, plan to include links to
everyone I know who wants to be linked to.

Craig
Datsun Roadsters mostly...
http://community.webshots.com/user/672000

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Sun Jul 27 07:27:33 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 09:27:33 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb tuning
Message-ID: <bef.2c7bbfed.35bdd1c5@aol.com>

What he said.
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 7/26/2008 11:56:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
sandhoff at csus.edu writes:

>  when I punch the motor at low rpm's the motor gasps for air and
>  several backfire pops occur

Sounds like there's no oil in the dashpots.  Unscrew those little
black plastic caps on top of the domes. Lift the rods  out, and drop
them back in. They shouldn't just drop down - they should  'squish'
thru a tiny pool of oil. Add 20W, a splash of engine oil  (10w-30),
some Marvel Mystery Oil, or some ATF (any brand auto trans  fluid).
Takes only a couple of tablespoons or so.

-- John
John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu  Sacramento,  CA





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From mark at dealermats.com  Sun Jul 27 08:20:54 2008
From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 10:20:54 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Roman Rist?
References: <019601c8efe4$628c8f60$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
Message-ID: <3EBB753255004C80BDFAC65009CAB4DB@LAPTOP>

Romans site is   http://www.ristguitars.com/




--------------------------------------------------
From: "chalsted" <chalsted at comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 8:29 AM
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Roadsters] Roman Rist?

> sorry for the bandwidth, if memory serves me right Roman Rist handcrafts 
> and
> sells absolutely beautiful acoustic guitars, the kind that almost make you
> want to cry with joy and catch your breath when you hold them in your
> hands.... anyone know how to reach him these days?  I'm working on a 
> website
> and would like to include a link for him if he has a website. I know I saw
> photos once upon a time somewhere no worries, plan to include links to
> everyone I know who wants to be linked to.
>
> Craig
> Datsun Roadsters mostly...
> http://community.webshots.com/user/672000
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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Sun Jul 27 09:41:59 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 11:41:59 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb tuning
In-Reply-To: <bef.2c7bbfed.35bdd1c5@aol.com>
References: <bef.2c7bbfed.35bdd1c5@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c8efff$5138b930$f3aa2b90$@net>

 Keith,

  For those of us that are still technically challenged, ... can you break
that down for us?  (:-)

Paul

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Carb tuning

What he said.
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 7/26/2008 11:56:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
sandhoff at csus.edu writes:

>  when I punch the motor at low rpm's the motor gasps for air and
>  several backfire pops occur

Sounds like there's no oil in the dashpots.  Unscrew those little
black plastic caps on top of the domes. Lift the rods  out, and drop
them back in. They shouldn't just drop down - they should  'squish'
thru a tiny pool of oil. Add 20W, a splash of engine oil  (10w-30),
some Marvel Mystery Oil, or some ATF (any brand auto trans  fluid).
Takes only a couple of tablespoons or so.

-- John
John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu  Sacramento,  CA

From davesmbox at aol.com  Sun Jul 27 10:12:25 2008
From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 12:12:25 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Auto Rotisserie
Message-ID: <8CABE1AB187DDB5-918-1E6@WEBMAIL-DG06.sim.aol.com>

Just curious,
I have been looking for a used autobody rotisserie (one I can BBQ chicken on too. Just kidding) There are no used ones that ever pop up. I would think this is the kind of tool that is bought,used once and sold all the time. Not so. Is it people are afraid to sell because of shipping?
Any thoughts. Eastwood has a nice one but I would rather buy used.

Dave

From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 27 11:03:18 2008
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 10:03:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Roman Rist?
In-Reply-To: <3EBB753255004C80BDFAC65009CAB4DB@LAPTOP>
Message-ID: <295122.54052.qm@web51111.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Our local guy is here
http://www.petilloguitars.com/history.php

JimG


--- On Sun, 7/27/08, Mark Dent <mark at dealermats.com> wrote:

> From: Mark Dent <mark at dealermats.com>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roman Rist?
> To: "chalsted" <chalsted at comcast.net>, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Sunday, July 27, 2008, 10:20 AM
> Romans site is   http://www.ristguitars.com/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "chalsted" <chalsted at comcast.net>
> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 8:29 AM
> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Roadsters] Roman Rist?
> 
> > sorry for the bandwidth, if memory serves me right
> Roman Rist handcrafts 
> > and
> > sells absolutely beautiful acoustic guitars, the kind
> that almost make you
> > want to cry with joy and catch your breath when you
> hold them in your
> > hands.... anyone know how to reach him these days? 
> I'm working on a 
> > website
> > and would like to include a link for him if he has a
> website. I know I saw
> > photos once upon a time somewhere no worries, plan to
> include links to
> > everyone I know who wants to be linked to.
> >
> > Craig
> > Datsun Roadsters mostly...
> > http://community.webshots.com/user/672000
> > ________________________________________
> > Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
> >
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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Sun Jul 27 12:27:18 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:27:18 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb tuning
Message-ID: <bd0.33aacc2c.35be1806@aol.com>

When the piston is sitting where it wants to be for the engine load  
condition the mixture is correct. When it's forced low the mixture will be rich.  When 
forced high the mixture will be lean. On acceleration you need to run a  
richer mixture for a short time. If the piston is allowed to move freely the  
mixture will remain correct for constant speed running but it will be too lean  
for acceleration. The dash pot oil damps the rise of the piston forcing it to be 
 temporarily lower than the steady state level. This enrichens the mixture 
for  acceleration. The speed of rise and thus the amount of enrichening can be 
varied  with the weight of the dash pot oil. Too thin or missing and you go 
lean and  stumble. Too thick and you go too rich and have a boggy, soft 
acceleration. Just  right and you have a crisp acceleration. The factory oil is about a 
10w, the  same as ATF. You want the thinnest oil that controls the stumbling. 
Motorcycle  fork oil comes in a number of weights and in convenient screw top 
bottles. A  medical syringe available at the feed and seed store with a short 
piece of  vacuum line is ideal for changing dash pot oil.
 
How's that?
 
keith

 
In a message dated 7/27/2008 8:42:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time,  
9laser3 at bright.net writes:

Keith,

For those of us that are still technically  challenged, ... can you break
that down for us?   (:-)

Paul

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [Roadsters]  Carb tuning

What he said.

keith


In a message dated  7/26/2008 11:56:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
sandhoff at csus.edu  writes:

>  when I punch the motor at low rpm's the motor gasps  for air and
>  several backfire pops occur

Sounds like  there's no oil in the dashpots.  Unscrew those little
black plastic  caps on top of the domes. Lift the rods  out, and drop
them back in.  They shouldn't just drop down - they should  'squish'
thru a tiny pool  of oil. Add 20W, a splash of engine oil  (10w-30),
some Marvel Mystery  Oil, or some ATF (any brand auto trans  fluid).
Takes only a couple of  tablespoons or so.

-- John
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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Sun Jul 27 13:04:13 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:04:13 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb tuning
In-Reply-To: <bd0.33aacc2c.35be1806@aol.com>
References: <bd0.33aacc2c.35be1806@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002301c8f01b$916381e0$b42a85a0$@net>

  I was just kidding, but it's always great to hear some words of wisdom
from the slow SU guy!

 

Paul

 

From: Keith0alan at aol.com [mailto:Keith0alan at aol.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 2:27 PM
To: 9laser3 at bright.net
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Carb tuning

 

When the piston is sitting where it wants to be for the engine load
condition the mixture is correct. When it's forced low the mixture will be
rich. When forced high the mixture will be lean. On acceleration you need to
run a richer mixture for a short time. If the piston is allowed to move
freely the mixture will remain correct for constant speed running but it
will be too lean for acceleration. The dash pot oil damps the rise of the
piston forcing it to be temporarily lower than the steady state level. This
enrichens the mixture for acceleration. The speed of rise and thus the
amount of enrichening can be varied with the weight of the dash pot oil. Too
thin or missing and you go lean and stumble. Too thick and you go too rich
and have a boggy, soft acceleration. Just right and you have a crisp
acceleration. The factory oil is about a 10w, the same as ATF. You want the
thinnest oil that controls the stumbling. Motorcycle fork oil comes in a
number of weights and in convenient screw top bottles. A medical syringe
available at the feed and seed store with a short piece of vacuum line is
ideal for changing dash pot oil.

 

How's that?

 

keith

 

In a message dated 7/27/2008 8:42:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
9laser3 at bright.net writes:

Keith,

  For those of us that are still technically challenged, ... can you break
that down for us?  (:-)

Paul

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Carb tuning

What he said.

keith


In a message dated 7/26/2008 11:56:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
sandhoff at csus.edu writes:

>  when I punch the motor at low rpm's the motor gasps for air and
>  several backfire pops occur

Sounds like there's no oil in the dashpots.  Unscrew those little
black plastic caps on top of the domes. Lift the rods  out, and drop
them back in. They shouldn't just drop down - they should  'squish'
thru a tiny pool of oil. Add 20W, a splash of engine oil  (10w-30),
some Marvel Mystery Oil, or some ATF (any brand auto trans  fluid).
Takes only a couple of tablespoons or so.

-- John
John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu  Sacramento,  CA

 





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From stathy at shaw.ca  Sun Jul 27 14:52:03 2008
From: stathy at shaw.ca (stan)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:52:03 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb tuning (And the winner is)
In-Reply-To: <000001c8efa4$a6b6c510$6500a8c0@g71901fc8f5974>
Message-ID: <000201c8f02a$9fe3fab0$6500a8c0@g71901fc8f5974>

Dashpot oil!
Don't I feel like a fool.  Now my motor hums like a (I won't say it).

Anyways, thanks to John and Keith (hope I didn't forget anyone)for their
suggestions and especially Keith who set me up with his website
detailing
Tuning of SU's. 
I can really see how fun it can be when you start fiddling around with 
Carbs.  Especially when you start to tweak them here and there.
You almost feel in tune with them.  No pun intended.

Cheers!
Stan

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+stathy=shaw.ca at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+stathy=shaw.ca at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of stan
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:53 PM
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb tuning

Hello all!
Note I will be using spell check with this email.
 
Anyways, I have been trying to tune my SU carbs for my 69-1600 and seem
to have hit a stumbling block.
 
I understand how to set the idle screws for each carb, as well as sync
them using a syncronometer.
I've don't that successfully.
As far as setting the jet height under each carb I haven't figured that
one out yet.
I turned the mixture screw in all the way and then turned it out 2 turns
as suggested on several of the websites.
>From there no adjustments have been made.
 
Here is what I've run into so far:
 
*	the motor fires up fine and idles so-so
*	when I rev the motor slowly the rpm's increase nicely
*	when I punch the motor at low rpm's the motor gasps for air and
several backfire pops occur
 
What I cannot figure out is that at high RPM's I can punch the throttle
and it will respond quite well.
 
What would cause it to backfire so heavily at low rpm's?  I would assume
non-sync'd carbs but as I stated I balanced them out
quite well.
 
If anyone can help me out I would greatly appreciate it.
 
Best regards
 
Cheers from sunny Vancouver, BC
 
Stan
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sun Jul 27 15:05:43 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:05:43 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Water Pipe
Message-ID: <072720082105.17937.488CE32700007958000046112200734076CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

What water pipe are you talking about?

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "JohnnyRoadster" <JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net>
> hanks for the info Keith.  I have pipe sitting around, so I may try to
> fabricate something to see how it looks.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Keith0alan at aol.com
>   To: JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net ; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>   Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:40 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Water Pipe
> 
> 
>   With water in it the temp will never get hot enough to melt solder. I've
> seen copper ones before and they seem to have worked fine.
> 
>   keith
> 
>   In a message dated 7/25/2008 5:10:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net writes:
>     I cleaned mine off the other day, and it was in OK shape.  But I was
> thinking
>     of just making one out of copper pipe and bending it at one end with a
> pipe
>     bender, and the sweating a 'T' and bend the other end.  This would be
> close to
>     the same shape as an original.
> 
>     My question is, how hot does it get above the exhaust manifold where this
>     would be?  This idea would only work if it didn't get too hot to melt the
>     solder.
> 
> 
>     SPL311-19356
>     http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sun Jul 27 15:09:07 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:09:07 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Thriller in Willard
Message-ID: <072720082109.16170.488CE3F30000DBF000003F2A2207020853CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Looks like y'all had a fun day. Roadsters are noticeably absent. Hmmmmm......

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: julie at 510coop.com
> It was a great fun run today... 
> http://www.datsunsnw.org/PastEvents/index.htm#Willard
> 
> About ten cars went. Once we got to Willard, a guy in a Volvo pulled in
> and said he worked for the Washington State Department of Tourism and
> had been following us from the Bridge of the Gods near Stevenson (about
> 20 miles). He had been looking for an opportunity to take photos of a
> car club...and could he take photos of the cars? Of course was the
> answer. He promised to email photos and links to where they'll be used. 
> 
> Julie

From JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net  Sun Jul 27 16:30:27 2008
From: JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net (JohnnyRoadster)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:30:27 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Water Pipe
References: <072720082105.17937.488CE32700007958000046112200734076CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <004c01c8f038$5f976010$6601a8c0@JohnLaptop>

The one that is attached to the heat shield underneath the SU carbs.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Water Pipe


> What water pipe are you talking about?
>
> Pete
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "JohnnyRoadster" <JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net>
>> hanks for the info Keith.  I have pipe sitting around, so I may try to
>> fabricate something to see how it looks.
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Keith0alan at aol.com
>>   To: JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net ; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>>   Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:40 AM
>>   Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Water Pipe
>>
>>
>>   With water in it the temp will never get hot enough to melt solder. 
>> I've
>> seen copper ones before and they seem to have worked fine.
>>
>>   keith
>>
>>   In a message dated 7/25/2008 5:10:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>> JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net writes:
>>     I cleaned mine off the other day, and it was in OK shape.  But I was
>> thinking
>>     of just making one out of copper pipe and bending it at one end with 
>> a
>> pipe
>>     bender, and the sweating a 'T' and bend the other end.  This would be
>> close to
>>     the same shape as an original.
>>
>>     My question is, how hot does it get above the exhaust manifold where 
>> this
>>     would be?  This idea would only work if it didn't get too hot to melt 
>> the
>>     solder.
>>
>>
>>     SPL311-19356
>>     http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sun Jul 27 17:14:13 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:14:13 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Water Pipe
Message-ID: <072720082314.21841.488D014500062DC8000055512200750330CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

This one?

<http://www.shiftco.com/features/the_rat/images/heat_shield.jpg>

Isn't the original copper?

Why would you want to make one if your original is okay?

Thanks.

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "JohnnyRoadster" <JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net>
> The one that is attached to the heat shield underneath the SU carbs.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
> To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 5:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Water Pipe
> 
> 
> > What water pipe are you talking about?
> >
> > Pete
> >
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: "JohnnyRoadster" <JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net>
> >> hanks for the info Keith.  I have pipe sitting around, so I may try to
> >> fabricate something to see how it looks.
> >>   ----- Original Message -----
> >>   From: Keith0alan at aol.com
> >>   To: JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net ; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> >>   Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:40 AM
> >>   Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Water Pipe
> >>
> >>
> >>   With water in it the temp will never get hot enough to melt solder. 
> >> I've
> >> seen copper ones before and they seem to have worked fine.
> >>
> >>   keith
> >>
> >>   In a message dated 7/25/2008 5:10:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> >> JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net writes:
> >>     I cleaned mine off the other day, and it was in OK shape.  But I was
> >> thinking
> >>     of just making one out of copper pipe and bending it at one end with 
> >> a
> >> pipe
> >>     bender, and the sweating a 'T' and bend the other end.  This would be
> >> close to
> >>     the same shape as an original.
> >>
> >>     My question is, how hot does it get above the exhaust manifold where 
> >> this
> >>     would be?  This idea would only work if it didn't get too hot to melt 
> >> the
> >>     solder.
> >>
> >>
> >>     SPL311-19356
> >>     http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster

From aultgc at att.net  Sun Jul 27 19:11:35 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:11:35 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Starter problems
References: <743471.51743.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <005d01c8f04e$e162e810$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

"Percussive maintenance".  Worked very well on the main steam isolation 
check valves at Point Beach Nuclear Station until the NRC found out.  I 
understand the standard was "Up to three blows with a 48 ounce hammer at a 
specific location on the valves."

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary McCormick" <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net>; "'John F Sandhoff'" <sandhoff at csus.edu>; 
"'matthew peterson'" <pete_303 at yahoo.com>
Cc: "'roadster list'" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter problems


> The other day I heard that (a smack with a hammer) referred to as "manual 
> agitation".
>
> Gary McCormick
> San Jose, CA
>
> Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote:
>  Sounds like a bad Bendix.  Have you tried a smack with a hammer yet?
> Might just be stuck from sitting.
>
> Paul
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From razmataz at indy.net  Sun Jul 27 21:03:51 2008
From: razmataz at indy.net (Stan Rasmussen)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:03:51 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb tuning (And the winner is)
In-Reply-To: <000201c8f02a$9fe3fab0$6500a8c0@g71901fc8f5974>
Message-ID: <001201c8f05e$91173b30$edcce004@YOURCCFEA0C05A>

I'm glad to hear this news, I've found one place that carries Dashpot
oil, does any one know of a common place to find it?

http://www.minimania.com/web/Item/GGL9035/AddedFrom/Search2-DASHPOT/InvD
etail.cfm

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+razmataz=indy.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+razmataz=indy.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of stan
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 4:52 PM
To: 'Datsun Roadster List'
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Carb tuning (And the winner is)


Dashpot oil!
Don't I feel like a fool.  Now my motor hums like a (I won't say it).

Anyways, thanks to John and Keith (hope I didn't forget anyone)for their
suggestions and especially Keith who set me up with his website
detailing Tuning of SU's. 
I can really see how fun it can be when you start fiddling around with 
Carbs.  Especially when you start to tweak them here and there. You
almost feel in tune with them.  No pun intended.

Cheers!
Stan

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+stathy=shaw.ca at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+stathy=shaw.ca at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of stan
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:53 PM
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb tuning

Hello all!
Note I will be using spell check with this email.
 
Anyways, I have been trying to tune my SU carbs for my 69-1600 and seem
to have hit a stumbling block.
 
I understand how to set the idle screws for each carb, as well as sync
them using a syncronometer. I've don't that successfully. As far as
setting the jet height under each carb I haven't figured that one out
yet. I turned the mixture screw in all the way and then turned it out 2
turns as suggested on several of the websites.
>From there no adjustments have been made.
 
Here is what I've run into so far:
 
*	the motor fires up fine and idles so-so
*	when I rev the motor slowly the rpm's increase nicely
*	when I punch the motor at low rpm's the motor gasps for air and
several backfire pops occur
 
What I cannot figure out is that at high RPM's I can punch the throttle
and it will respond quite well.
 
What would cause it to backfire so heavily at low rpm's?  I would assume
non-sync'd carbs but as I stated I balanced them out quite well.
 
If anyone can help me out I would greatly appreciate it.
 
Best regards
 
Cheers from sunny Vancouver, BC
 
Stan
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From aultgc at att.net  Sun Jul 27 21:26:47 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:26:47 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] What Type of Hood Insulation?
References: <119586.24665.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <021801c8f061$c4a2d9c0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

Jim,

There was no factory insulation under the hood or deck (trunk) lid of Datsun 
roadsters.  I see no reason to add any.  -- the engine compartment gets hot 
enough as is.  So, your PO(s) screwed up the car in that regard.  Which 
makes anything else they did suspect, unfortunately.  Stay close to the 
List.  There's a lot of experience out there.  (In my case, 37 years with 
the same 1600/2000 doing my own mechanical maintenance.)

Gary Ault

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jim williams" <sportsix63 at yahoo.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 10:37 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] What Type of Hood Insulation?


> What did Datsun use for insulation material under the hood and deck lid of 
> 1600 roadsters?
> All I have left is yellow strains of insulation hanging down.
> Can the original be purchased somewhere?
> Thanks
>
> Jim Williams  Lewisburg, West Virginia
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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Sun Jul 27 23:43:28 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 01:43:28 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb tuning (And the winner is)
In-Reply-To: <001201c8f05e$91173b30$edcce004@YOURCCFEA0C05A>
Message-ID: <001901c8f074$ddf2f960$6800a8c0@delled48909442>

I use Dexron ATF.. Marvel Mystery Oil made it ping on acceleration,
luckily my daughter was kind enough to buy me a 2 qt can of MMO, asked
for the little bottle :(  I dumped the rest of the can in all my gas
tanks. The Dodge ran better.

-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Rasmussen [mailto:razmataz at indy.net] 
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 11:04 PM
To: 'stan'; 'Datsun Roadster List'
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Carb tuning (And the winner is)

I'm glad to hear this news, I've found one place that carries Dashpot
oil, does any one know of a common place to find it?

http://www.minimania.com/web/Item/GGL9035/AddedFrom/Search2-DASHPOT/InvD
etail.cfm

From tom at datsun2000.com  Mon Jul 28 00:57:49 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:57:49 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] WINE TASTING & BBQ / FUN RUN AUGUST 9 IN SHED, OREGON
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGKEFFDFAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

Bill and Karen Neil are hosting a wine tasting/BBQ at their home in Shed,
Oregon, which is near Corvallis, on August 9th.  The fun run begins around
10:30 AM, and the BBQ around 4 PM.

See the NOWROC web site calendar page for complete information and RSVP
info.

http://www.nowroc.org/events/

This is a good opportunity for roadster owners from both North and South of
the Corvallis area to meet and have a good time together.

Also, I have added pictures to the Shasta pictures.  I have also added
notations about which cars won in their categories.

http://www.datsun2000.com/shasta_08

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

From chalsted at comcast.net  Mon Jul 28 03:58:55 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 05:58:55 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 1600 in california on craigslist
References: <c6d.2d9b2547.35be9b23@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004a01c8f098$8cf6f830$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

I bought this car this weekend, made the deal and paypal'd her a deposit. the
scumbags came out of the woodwork and have convinced her she should not honor
our deal and she has now sent my deposit back. what the hell is wrong with you
folks? a deal should be a deal. don't call me for roadster parts any more,
shop is closed.  I've been looking for a nice shell to rebody #5 2000 since
1979 that I could afford and now you guys are taking that away from me. I'm
done, good luck and as they say scumbags usually get what they deserve in
life.

Craig

I want everyone to let me know who buys the car, who screwed me out of it.
Craig
Datsun Roadsters mostly...
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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: JustForeLu at aol.com
  To: chalsted at comcast.net
  Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 11:46 PM
  Subject: Re: your datsun roadster


  Hello Craig,

   We have shown the car to several people over the weekend, and low and
behold there seems to be Great interest in my car. I have pulled it off of
craigslist due to the overwhelming response. Today, I was offered a lot more
then I listed the car for and I haven't made any decisions yet, I did enjoy
talking with you and feel you would give my car a good home. Also, to let you
know, I met a few people today that apparently Know you and said you were a
good man to deal with, One offer is 4,800.00 cash. We were told also today the
car is worth anywhere from 4,000 (needing complete restoration) and upwards of
25,000 if it had the 2000 motor. We are feeling at this time that we need to
look at all offers, and are not making a final decision until later this week.
Thank you, Craig and we'll keep you posted!





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From chalsted at comcast.net  Mon Jul 28 04:05:56 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 06:05:56 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 1600 in Reading California
References: <689687.39579.qm@web83007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <004f01c8f099$87ec9330$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

well, Gerardo, everyone who talked to her and looked at the car this weekend 
said she should have sold for more, and talked her into refunding my 
deposit. I'm done. screw everyone. I don't need this kind of crap in my 
life, and if Tim Miner ends up with the car... want to see movies of me 
having 30 roadsters crushed?  if this car is stolen out from under me that's 
friggin' it. I'm done with west coast people who don't know what honesty or 
integrity are. they tried to get Jon to refund my deposit on #402, they've 
evidently screwed me out of my next deal... what the hell is the matter with 
you people out there? at least Jon and Kerry are honest.

Craig Halsted
lots of neat stuff but done keeping cars on the road for folks who just 
don't appreciate how much work what I do is...
Craig
Datsun Roadsters mostly...
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gerardo Magana" <gerardomagana at sbcglobal.net>
To: "chalsted" <chalsted at comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 4:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 67.5 1600 in Reading California


> Hello Craig, Give me her details nd I will call her.
> Thanks, Gerardo
> --- chalsted <chalsted at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I got the pix of the Craigslist car this evening and
>> after talking to the
>> seller sent her a $200 downpayment by PayPal against
>> her asking price of
>> $3200. balance to be a cashier's check this week.
>> afterwards she sent me
>> another e-mail about the deal, seemed a bit nervous
>> as she wanted all cash and
>> my name is unfamiliar to her. I can't access the
>> money until monday to get it
>> to her tuesday but she seems uncomfortable with the
>> deal now... can someone
>> who knows me call her off the Craigslist Redding
>> listing and reassure her that
>> she will get the money as promised by me? I'd really
>> appreciate it. or if
>> you're nearby and can give her $3k cash for me
>> tomorrow, I'll have the funds
>> to you by tuesday if you need me to fed ex or
>> however, I have it now. any
>> assistance anyone can give me is appreciated.. and
>> if there be anyone who
>> would back door me on the deal, bad karma for you,
>> bummer for me. really, I
>> don't buy up every roadster in sight. out there only
>> 67.5 1600 or 2000's and
>> the occasional super rare unusual like SPL213-00004.
>>  I have been looking for
>> a 67.5 with a nice body that I could afford for
>> quite a while now. might even
>> use it to rebody SRL311-00006 and drive it to the
>> Glen this fall ;-)  only had
>> it for 20 plus years...
>>
>> Craig
>> Datsun Roadsters mostly...
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From sportsix63 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 28 04:30:57 2008
From: sportsix63 at yahoo.com (jim williams)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 03:30:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Hood Insulation Thanks
Message-ID: <639515.10164.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I want to thank all those that took the time to answer the insulation question. Especially for the photos. I think that I will be able to at least get near the original look.

Jim Williams  Lewisburg, West Virginia

From chalsted at comcast.net  Mon Jul 28 04:40:23 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 06:40:23 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] yellow 67.5 1600 in Redding
Message-ID: <008c01c8f09e$57e2f5d0$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

well, the scumbags came out of the woodwork this weekend, talked Lucy into
refunding my deposit so they could steal the car out from under me. actually
you only made it part way there, my deposit won't come out of her account for
3-4 days so if you buy it in the meantime I'll tie you up in court. I've been
looking for a nice shell to rebody #6 for over 20 years...selling parts is not
a profit making venture, it merely offsets the expenses of having a roadster
obsession, a labor of love. if you folks don't have the decency, honesty, and
integrity to appreciate that and will try to back door me on every deal I
make, I'm not going to go to the trouble of selling parts anymore. my honest
friends are welcome to contact me if they need parts but as for the new
generation of roadster owners, someone's been skipping their ethics classes
and I'm just not interested in dealing with folks with no more respect for
life and other people (like me) than that. for my honest friends, I wish you
all the best. for the ones who would steal cars out from under me, you
can............
Craig
used to sell Datsun Roadster parts
Bye

From chalsted at comcast.net  Mon Jul 28 05:47:21 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:47:21 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] free parts roadsters in Virginia last call
Message-ID: <00bd01c8f0a7$b2905ff0$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

I'm done with the part of my life where I strip out rusty old roadsters and
save parts for everyone for when they might eventually need something. I have
probably 15 or more hulks that I really hate to sell for scrap and if you want
one come with a trailer and I'll give you one to haul away. most are rollers
and have full suspension, steering, differentials, axle shafts, drums, ball
joints... would rather give them to someone who has a use or need for those
parts than just scrap them and the stuff is forever gone. I have a set of
photos I haven't posted on webshots yet titled "10 minutes too late" of a
roadster going thru the crusher... if it has a drivetrain, give me what the
boneyard would give me for scrap, $200. the ones that are not gone by the end
of the summer will be crushed. no free or cheap U20's or 5spds.

Craig

used to sell Datsun roadster parts to honest folks who cared... actually, I'll
still sell to those people, it's the dishonest unethical ones I have no
interest in dealing with.

From chalsted at comcast.net  Mon Jul 28 05:57:40 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:57:40 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] ethics, integrity, thieves
Message-ID: <00c401c8f0a9$23a62750$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

I think I should post Lucy's list of folks who tried to get her to back out of
the deal with me publicly to the list so the rest of you all know which of
your fellow list members have problems with understanding ethics and
integrity. Jon never told me and I didn't ask who was trying to back door me
on #402... probably the same people. I believe it's a short list and a shame
it reflects badly on the roadster community, they should be "shunned" by the
rest of us. list would probably get pretty lively... should I or not?  weigh
in :-)  maybe it's time to "out" these particular individuals.  I may
occasionally beat them to a deal, but at least it's all honest.

Craig

From chalsted at comcast.net  Mon Jul 28 06:19:13 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:19:13 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] ot- any IPO and LLC specialists in the roadster
	community?
Message-ID: <00d401c8f0ac$260bae40$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

if anyone on the list is a LLC and IPO specialist, or knows someone in that
field that they trust, please contact me. you will be required to sign
non-disclosure contracts even to talk with me about the offering, nothing
shady involved I promise.

thanks-
Craig

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Mon Jul 28 07:13:08 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:13:08 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb tuning (And the winner is)
Message-ID: <cb5.3a3b1a7e.35bf1fe4@aol.com>

It doesn't have to be specifically dash pot oil. As long as it's the  correct 
weight most any oil will do. ATF, MMM, Power steering fluid, engine oil,  
motorcycle fork oil all work well. 3 in 1 and WD-40 don't work so well.
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 7/27/2008 11:34:58 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
daveandlindab at comcast.net writes:

I use  Dexron ATF.. Marvel Mystery Oil made it ping on acceleration,
luckily my  daughter was kind enough to buy me a 2 qt can of MMO, asked
for the little  bottle :(  I dumped the rest of the can in all my gas
tanks. The Dodge  ran better.

-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Rasmussen  [mailto:razmataz at indy.net] 
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 11:04 PM
To:  'stan'; 'Datsun Roadster List'
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Carb tuning (And  the winner is)

I'm glad to hear this news, I've found one place that  carries Dashpot
oil, does any one know of a common place to find  it?






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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Mon Jul 28 07:36:50 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:36:50 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Help, I'm snapping off bolt heads!
Message-ID: <c2d.3da5d168.35bf2572@aol.com>

Rust is generally nasty stuff. Not only has the parent metal been eroded,  
rust is very abrasive, and it takes up more room than the parent metal. So you  
end up with the threads wedged tightly with grinding powder. Most always  
fasteners requiring "heroic measures" will fit looser than original and  sometimes 
will be beyond reusing. Fortunately, most times this looser fit isn't  a 
problem. When it is several methods, like your suggestion, are available. The  
first step in doing the repair is to get the silly thing apart in the first  
place with a minimum of damage.
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 7/27/2008 6:16:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
aultgc at att.net writes:

I mean  no criticism of Keith's advice.  But, please remember that iron 
oxide  -- rust -- is much harder than steel.  So, rust flakes mixed among the 
 
threads tend to "screw" things up mightily by cutting new threads in a  form 
one does not want.  If one is lucky, one gets the bolt or screw  out without 
breaking it off, and has enough base material left in the  captive threads to 
re-tap and use the next larger  fastener.







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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Mon Jul 28 07:39:23 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:39:23 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Water Pipe
Message-ID: <c17.3fac7622.35bf260b@aol.com>

The original is steel. I spend a lot of time repairing them. A lack of  
anti-freeze eats them alive. Very few of the originals I get are leak free after  I 
remove all the rust. 
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 7/27/2008 4:56:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
ppeters914 at comcast.net writes:

This  one?

<http://www.shiftco.com/features/the_rat/images/heat_shield.jpg>

Isn't  the original copper?

Why would you want to make one if your original is  okay?

Thanks.

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From chalsted at comcast.net  Mon Jul 28 11:16:29 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:16:29 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 1600 in california on craigslist
References: <488D956C.199.7297F0@localhost>
Message-ID: <021c01c8f0d5$adcb20d0$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

Hi John,

I don't think it's that Lucy is a dishonest person, just folks trying to 
convince her it's worth a lot more. I heard she has it relisted at $5k, 
someone told her was worth $4800. I don't agree but she may get lucky. I 
gave her the deposit at her full price of $3200, thought we had a deal, had 
asked about deposit and if she had a paypal account, she told me yes. after 
I sent she e-mailed that we hadn't made a deal after I told her the $$ was 
probably an e-check and wouldn't show completed for 3-4 business days. 
turned out it went straight to her so she had my deposit money. this morning 
I got notice that she'd reversed the transaction and it would take me 3-4 
business days to get it back...if she thinks it's worth more than I was 
paying her, even though it overheats and has one door whacked and trim strip 
off, I wish her good luck. I think she's been given poor input or those 
folks didn't see the pix of the door. I would still like to get it for the 
$3200 I thought we agreed on but can not pay more, that's all there is to 
it. she has not returned my call or e-mail.
Craig
Datsun Roadsters mostly...
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From chalsted at comcast.net  Mon Jul 28 11:33:45 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:33:45 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: your datsun roadster
Message-ID: <023f01c8f0d8$17070f80$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

----- Original Message -----
From: JustForeLu at aol.com
To: chalsted at comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: your datsun roadster


Hello Craig,

 We have shown the car to several people over the weekend, and low and behold
there seems to be Great interest in my car. I have pulled it off of craigslist
due to the overwhelming response. Today, I was offered a lot more then I
listed the car for and I haven't made any decisions yet, I did enjoy talking
with you and feel you would give my car a good home. Also, to let you know, I
met a few people today that apparently Know you and said you were a good man
to deal with, One offer is 4,800.00 cash. We were told also today the car is
worth anywhere from 4,000 (needing complete restoration) and upwards of 25,000
if it had the 2000 motor. We are feeling at this time that we need to look at
all offers, and are not making a final decision until later this week. Thank
you, Craig and we'll keep you posted!





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From solex675 at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 28 11:44:06 2008
From: solex675 at hotmail.com (Andrew Murphy)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:44:06 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Losing my cool
Message-ID: <BAY123-W53A93FA4551A2CC773327E96830@phx.gbl>

Hey Listers,

Took the car out for a spin this last weekend and about 1/2 WAY through the
drive I noticed the car starting to overheat so I headed home. When I got home
I checled the front of the car and uh-oh...

It looked like coolant had been splashed all over the grille. After the car
cooled off enough I attempted to put some water back in and upon checking, saw
a nice hole rght in the front of the radiator streaming water like it was
taking a leak (literally).

So it looks like the radiator is shot. So to the list I ask what is the best
course of action?  Do I just take it to a radiator shop to fix or should I buy
a three row radiator? Do three rows make that much of a difference over the
stock unit?

Any help appreciated.

Andrew Murphy
1966 1600
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From geegc at aol.com  Mon Jul 28 12:11:09 2008
From: geegc at aol.com (geegc at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:11:09 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Losing my cool
In-Reply-To: <BAY123-W53A93FA4551A2CC773327E96830@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY123-W53A93FA4551A2CC773327E96830@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8CABEF4724B6CE8-6C0-6A0@webmailbeta-m01.sysops.aol.com>

I did a re core years ago for my 1600 to three rows, worth the money 
IMHO

Gary C

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Murphy <solex675 at hotmail.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:44 am
Subject: [Roadsters] Losing my cool

Hey Listers,

Took the car out for a spin this last weekend and about 1/2 WAY through 
the
drive I noticed the car starting to overheat so I headed home. When I 
got home
I checled the front of the car and uh-oh...

It looked like coolant had been splashed all over the grille. After the 
car
cooled off enough I attempted to put some water back in and upon 
checking, saw
a nice hole rght in the front of the radiator streaming water like it 
was
taking a leak (literally).

So it looks like the radiator is shot. So to the list I ask what is the 
best
course of action?  Do I just take it to a radiator shop to fix or 
should I buy
a three row radiator? Do three rows make that much of a difference over 
the
stock unit?

Any help appreciated.

Andrew Murphy
1966 1600
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From stamuki at gmail.com  Mon Jul 28 12:18:16 2008
From: stamuki at gmail.com (D Riedel)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:18:16 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling
In-Reply-To: <c89.2fda2b3a.35bb2aa8@aol.com>
References: <c89.2fda2b3a.35bb2aa8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <ae1f75970807281118r2953c089ic73b5c1da1eb0933@mail.gmail.com>

The word data is almost universally handled as singular, even in
scientific publications that are peer-reviewed by people that peruse
data for a living.  I prefer to handle it correctly as a plural, but
it's so uncommon, that I sometimes wonder if the reader will assume I
made a mistake.

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 6:10 AM,  <Keith0alan at aol.com> wrote:
> Singular of data is datum.
>
> kw
>
>
> In a message dated 7/25/2008 6:01:01 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> dhyson at charter.net writes:
>
> Jeez ! I  didn't know data was plural . Does that make the statement "I
> didn't know  dat ." correct ?
>
> By the way , in some portions of the country it is  accepted that the
> "sensitive outgrowth on the head" is where the beer  bottle made contact
> ..........................
>
> Durf
>
> Bubba  wrote:
>> No problem, antennae are a sensitive outgrowth on the head of  an insect or
>> crustacean.
>>
>>>  ANd  how many
>>> people remember that data is  plural?
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From wchmch at aol.com  Mon Jul 28 12:36:33 2008
From: wchmch at aol.com (wchmch at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:36:33 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: your datsun roadster
In-Reply-To: <023f01c8f0d8$17070f80$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
References: <023f01c8f0d8$17070f80$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
Message-ID: <8CABEF7FE4E8F3C-13E4-BD@webmail-db16.sysops.aol.com>

25,000??? B Is that right?


 We were told also today the car is
worth anywhere from 4,000 (needing complete restoration) and upwards of
25,000
if it had the 2000 motor.




-----Original Message-----
From: chalsted <chalsted at comcast.net>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:33 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: your datsun roadster








----- Original Message -----
From: JustForeLu at aol.com
To: chalsted at comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: your datsun roadster


Hello Craig,

 We have shown the car to several people over the weekend, and low and behold
there seems to be Great interest in my car. I have pulled it off of
craigslist
due to the overwhelming response. Today, I was offered a lot more then I
listed the car for and I haven't made any decisions yet, I did enjoy talking
with you and feel you would give my car a good home. Also, to let you know, I
met a few people today that apparently Know you and said you were a good man
to deal with, One offer is 4,800.00 cash. We were told also today the car is
worth anywhere from 4,000 (needing complete restoration) and upwards of
25,000
if it had the 2000 motor. We are feeling at this time that we need to look at
all offers, and are not making a final decision until later this week. Thank
you, Craig and we'll keep you posted!





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From robbieharrison at comcast.net  Mon Jul 28 13:13:08 2008
From: robbieharrison at comcast.net (Robbie Harrison)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:13:08 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: your datsun roadster
References: <023f01c8f0d8$17070f80$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
	<8CABEF7FE4E8F3C-13E4-BD@webmail-db16.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <488E1A43.000014.02412@ROBBIE-PC>

Sure
And the 67 1600 that I bought for $2000 in 2002 and sold for $2000 in June
is surely worth the $10000 that the new owner put it up for on craigslist
two weeks after he bought it from me. I wish him the best of luck - I got my
asking price. But 10K for a 1600 that needs chrome, interior

Sorry to hear you're getting jerked around Craig. And I sincerely hope that
nobody on the list is involved.

Robbie Harrison
West Haven, CT
68 2000 "Midori"
69 2000 for parts

-------Original Message-------

From: wchmch at aol.com
Date: 7/28/2008 2:57:52 PM
To: chalsted at comcast.net;  datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fw: your datsun roadster

25,000??? B Is that right?


  We were told also today the car is
worth anywhere from 4,000 (needing complete restoration) and upwards of
25,000
if it had the 2000 motor.




-----Original Message-----
From: chalsted <chalsted at comcast.net>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:33 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: your datsun roadster








----- Original Message -----
From: JustForeLu at aol.com
To: chalsted at comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: your datsun roadster


Hello Craig,

  We have shown the car to several people over the weekend, and low and
behold
there seems to be Great interest in my car. I have pulled it off of
craigslist
due to the overwhelming response. Today, I was offered a lot more then I
listed the car for and I haven't made any decisions yet, I did enjoy talking
with you and feel you would give my car a good home. Also, to let you know,
I
met a few people today that apparently Know you and said you were a good man
to deal with, One offer is 4,800.00 cash. We were told also today the car is
worth anywhere from 4,000 (needing complete restoration) and upwards of
25,000
if it had the 2000 motor. We are feeling at this time that we need to look
at
all offers, and are not making a final decision until later this week. Thank
you, Craig and we'll keep you posted!





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From stamuki at gmail.com  Mon Jul 28 13:14:53 2008
From: stamuki at gmail.com (D Riedel)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:14:53 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws
Message-ID: <ae1f75970807281214tc01cb36h34549ef69260950@mail.gmail.com>

On a similar topic to the bolt heads... any hope of getting my
sun-visor and rear-view assembly off?  I've tried WD-40 so far without
any success, but I'm reluctant to really twist hard in fear of
deforming the phillips head and then never getting it off.
Suggestions?

-- 
Dave Riedel
'69 2000
Victoria, BC

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Mon Jul 28 13:27:57 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:27:57 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: your datsun roadster
Message-ID: <bd4.377cf76d.35bf77bd@aol.com>

Generally the ones worth $25,000 have just had $30,000 worth of restoration  
work done on them. 
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 7/28/2008 11:57:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
wchmch at aol.com writes:

25,000??? B Is that right?


We were told also today the car  is
worth anywhere from 4,000 (needing complete restoration) and upwards  of
25,000
if it had the 2000  motor.







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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Mon Jul 28 13:29:41 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:29:41 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Losing my cool
Message-ID: <c08.40f8b793.35bf7825@aol.com>

I had a high density core put in. No more problems.
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 7/28/2008 11:30:28 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
geegc at aol.com writes:

I did a  re core years ago for my 1600 to three rows, worth the money  
IMHO

Gary C

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew  Murphy <solex675 at hotmail.com>
To:  datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:44 am
Subject:  [Roadsters] Losing my cool

Hey Listers,

Took the car out for a  spin this last weekend and about 1/2 WAY through 
the
drive I noticed  the car starting to overheat so I headed home. When I 
got home
I  checled the front of the car and uh-oh...

It looked like coolant had  been splashed all over the grille. After the 
car
cooled off enough I  attempted to put some water back in and upon 
checking, saw
a nice hole  rght in the front of the radiator streaming water like it 
was
taking a  leak (literally).

So it looks like the radiator is shot. So to the list  I ask what is the 
best
course of action?  Do I just take it to a  radiator shop to fix or 
should I buy
a three row radiator? Do three  rows make that much of a difference over 
the
stock unit?

Any  help appreciated.

Andrew Murphy
1966  1600





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From slowboy at cox.net  Mon Jul 28 13:36:50 2008
From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:36:50 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 1968 Fuse Box
Message-ID: <000601c8f0e9$49612a90$0201a8c0@m7170n>

I have a Datsun schematic marked for the 1968 -1970 1600 & 2000 Sports. It was
part of a book of Datsun schematics.

This schematic has the double row of four (8 fuses) that I have seen on a 1970
and 1969. It also is wired for the side markers. I guess there are some things
that can be ignored if they do not apply, but you would think they'd be marked
to note their application. It seems to me this schematic would more accurately
represent the 1969 & 1970.

Anyway.......

Did any of the 1968 models come with the double row fuse box and possibly with
side markers stock?

Jim

From haabu at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jul 28 14:02:36 2008
From: haabu at sbcglobal.net (Herb Petty)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:02:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Sell
Message-ID: <493239.43477.qm@web81804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Selling Roadster's is like selling Motor-cycles.     There's an a-- for every seat  ( Revised
  P.T. Barnum )   My ol yellow car has introduced me to many many many great folks,
  that I would have missed out knowing.   I've put a Ton of money in this car, take it from me,
  the smiles & great memories are all worth it.
  The car is secondary  !!       However as long as we're trying to boost the economy,
  $  35,000.00 would be a proper approach !!     Ha ha haaaaaaa
   
  Everyone have a great day,
  Herb Petty

From lberg at minnetronix.com  Mon Jul 28 15:17:17 2008
From: lberg at minnetronix.com (Loren Berg)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:17:17 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Losing my cool
In-Reply-To: <c08.40f8b793.35bf7825@aol.com>
References: <c08.40f8b793.35bf7825@aol.com>
Message-ID: <23BD2A29CB596A448EBAE54FA6CB69E21CBE5DBFC4@mxexchange.minnetronix.com>

Andrew,

If it used to run cool and the core is good, then all it needs is to be
tanked, soldered (i.e. hole repaired), and pressure tested.  Shouldn't cost
more than $75.  If it needs to be re-cored, then absolutely go for the 3-row.
The increase in price from a 2-core is well worth it.

 - Loren (Minneapolis, MN)
'68 1600 w/U20 & 5-sp
'70 2000 parting out


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+lberg=minnetronix.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+lberg=minnetronix.com at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Keith0alan at aol.com
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:30 PM
To: Geegc at aol.com; solex675 at hotmail.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Losing my cool

I had a high density core put in. No more problems.

keith


In a message dated 7/28/2008 11:30:28 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
geegc at aol.com writes:

I did a  re core years ago for my 1600 to three rows, worth the money
IMHO

Gary C

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew  Murphy <solex675 at hotmail.com>
To:  datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:44 am
Subject:  [Roadsters] Losing my cool

Hey Listers,

Took the car out for a  spin this last weekend and about 1/2 WAY through
the
drive I noticed  the car starting to overheat so I headed home. When I
got home
I  checled the front of the car and uh-oh...

It looked like coolant had  been splashed all over the grille. After the
car
cooled off enough I  attempted to put some water back in and upon
checking, saw
a nice hole  rght in the front of the radiator streaming water like it
was
taking a  leak (literally).

So it looks like the radiator is shot. So to the list  I ask what is the
best
course of action?  Do I just take it to a  radiator shop to fix or
should I buy
a three row radiator? Do three  rows make that much of a difference over
the
stock unit?

Any  help appreciated.

Andrew Murphy
1966  1600

From sandhoff at csus.edu  Mon Jul 28 15:53:49 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:53:49 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 1968 Fuse Box
In-Reply-To: <000601c8f0e9$49612a90$0201a8c0@m7170n>
Message-ID: <488DDD7D.26456.18C1A86@localhost>

> I have a Datsun schematic marked for the 1968 -1970 1600 & 2000 Sports.

Your diagram is too generic.

'68 has 6 fuses, no side marker lights.
'69 started the 8-fuse box
And as I recall, '70 had a little extra wiring for a solenoid on the
intake manifold that was part of the smog setup. Or maybe I'm nuts.

Over the years there have been some very nice diagrams put together
by some of the list members. I thought they were on the 311s site
but at first blush didn't see them. You can pull up a '68 and a
69-70 diagram, though, from Ross' site:
<http://www.sportsimports.ca/archive/technicaltips/images/68.gif>
<http://www.sportsimports.ca/archive/technicaltips/images/6970.gif>

I'm sure others will chime in with where the nifty color diagrams are.
 
-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From shifty at shiftco.com  Mon Jul 28 16:43:18 2008
From: shifty at shiftco.com (Leigh Brooks)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:43:18 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] 1968 Fuse Box
Message-ID: <200807281843605.SM05284@[64.226.254.173]>

Here's the link to the diagrams on 311s.org

http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.WiringDiagrams



<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: &quot;John F Sandhoff&quot;
<br>Sent 7/28/2008 5:53:49 PM<br>To: &quot;SlowBoy&quot; <br>Cc:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net<br>Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1968 Fuse
Box<br><br><pre>&gt; I have a Datsun schematic marked for the 1968 -1970 1600
& 2000 Sports.

Your diagram is too generic.

'68 has 6 fuses, no side marker lights.
'69 started the 8-fuse box
And as I recall, '70 had a little extra wiring for a solenoid on the
intake manifold that was part of the smog setup. Or maybe I'm nuts.

Over the years there have been some very nice diagrams put together
by some of the list members. I thought they were on the 311s site
but at first blush didn't see them. You can pull up a '68 and a
69-70 diagram, though, from Ross' site:



I'm sure others will chime in with where the nifty color diagrams are.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA
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From jklingman at stny.rr.com  Mon Jul 28 17:34:42 2008
From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:34:42 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] roadster
Message-ID: <001701c8f10a$82e48340$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>

 Craig,
   Sorry about the deal gone sour. It paints a sad picture of the times. On
the other hand, you are a good friend, a gracious host, and an honest, fair
and informed parts source. A deal is a deal, but if the seller feels they sold
too low , especially if they get input after the fact, they forget they set
the price and hate the buyer for ripping them off. You have the right to be
ticked off, but it is still her car to do with as she wishes. It may work in
your favor, I hope it does.
  Gloria and John Klingman
  Sidney, NY '68 2000 Spike... bought from Craig

From fj20spl311 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 28 21:03:08 2008
From: fj20spl311 at yahoo.com (philip erickson)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:03:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] resend deal because......
In-Reply-To: <mailman.23.1217268002.3298.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <911023.85959.qm@web31912.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Craig and others,
  I had the same thing happen to me 7-8 years ago.  I responded to an advertisement for a restored 67.5 2000 listed as must sell in Idaho....After talking to the owner, he honestly described that the car had been partially disassembled and cleaned, but not restored.   Still a very nice car for my purpose - driver while I work on my 69.  He wanted 10 or 11K for the car and I agreed.  When I called to schedule a time for me to fly up to pay and pick-up the car I was told that several people had called him to tell him that a restored 67.5 2000 was worth more and he should resend the deal.  I told him the best thing was for him to find a way to keep the car and enjoy the ride..........
  Phil

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Mon Jul 28 21:30:01 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:30:01 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] resend deal because......
In-Reply-To: <911023.85959.qm@web31912.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CABF428474A131-A28-13ED@webmail-nb07.sysops.aol.com>

 Who are these people whose mission it is to tell people they should back out of deals? What is their motivation? To sell parts? To buy the car? To screw with people? It seems like these days with just a minimal amount of effort you could ascertain the approx value of any car by: Kelly Bluebook, Emunds.com, EBAY, Craigslist, car clubs..in no particular order. So if you don't know the exact value of the car you are selling and make a deal then so be it. Considering that even the acknowledged experts on this list might disagree on value, it would be difficult for an amateur to know. 
I hope it wasn't anyone on these lists who tried the backdoor deal. If so I guess the moral is don't mention a possible buy as? it brings out the unethical. 

Linda


 

-----Original Message-----
From: philip erickson <fj20spl311 at yahoo.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 8:03 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] resend deal because......










Craig and others,
  I had the same thing happen to me 7-8 years ago.  I responded to an 
advertisement for a restored 67.5 2000 listed as must sell in Idaho....After 
talking to the owner, he honestly described that the car had been partially 
disassembled and cleaned, but not restored.   Still a very nice car for my 
purpose - driver while I work on my 69.  He wanted 10 or 11K for the car and I 
agreed.  When I called to schedule a time for me to fly up to pay and pick-up 
the car I was told that several people had called him to tell him that a 
restored 67.5 2000 was worth more and he should resend the deal.  I told him the 
best thing was for him to find a way to keep the car and enjoy the 
ride..........
  Phil
________________________________________

From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jul 28 21:31:56 2008
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:31:56 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling
In-Reply-To: <ae1f75970807281118r2953c089ic73b5c1da1eb0933@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c89.2fda2b3a.35bb2aa8@aol.com>
	<ae1f75970807281118r2953c089ic73b5c1da1eb0933@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <488E8F2C.2080305@sbcglobal.net>

It's been my experience that people who deal with technical DATA are not 
necessarily the people who will know the difference between DATA and DATUM.

Sadly, widespread incorrect usage has been known to change the meaning 
of a word - the "dumbing down" of language...

Give me a minute and I'll come up with an example.

Gary McCormick
San Jose

D Riedel wrote:

>The word data is almost universally handled as singular, even in
>scientific publications that are peer-reviewed by people that peruse
>data for a living.  I prefer to handle it correctly as a plural, but
>it's so uncommon, that I sometimes wonder if the reader will assume I
>made a mistake.
>
>On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 6:10 AM,  <Keith0alan at aol.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>Singular of data is datum.
>>
>>kw
>>
>>
>>In a message dated 7/25/2008 6:01:01 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>>dhyson at charter.net writes:
>>
>>Jeez ! I  didn't know data was plural . Does that make the statement "I
>>didn't know  dat ." correct ?
>>
>>By the way , in some portions of the country it is  accepted that the
>>"sensitive outgrowth on the head" is where the beer  bottle made contact
>>..........................
>>
>>Durf
>>
>>Bubba  wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>No problem, antennae are a sensitive outgrowth on the head of  an insect or
>>>crustacean.
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>> ANd  how many
>>>>people remember that data is  plural?
>>>>        
>>>>
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Mon Jul 28 21:51:42 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:51:42 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] roadster
In-Reply-To: <001701c8f10a$82e48340$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>
References: <001701c8f10a$82e48340$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>
Message-ID: <003601c8f12e$6a0bb180$3e231480$@net>

It seems like the Internet is a bit like the Wild West - no rules, and a lot
of opportunity for less-than-honorable actions.

I don't know if the laws will ever catch up, but there are some parallels in
commercial advertising. Around here (WA), an advertisement constitutes a
contract to sell. If a company misprints a price in an ad in the newspaper,
for example, it is obligated to sell for the advertised price. Makes
proof-reading very important.

Even so, you can make a deal with a car dealer, sign all the papers and
everything, and if your financing falls through, you're out of luck.

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of John Klingman
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 4:35 PM
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] roadster

 Craig,
   Sorry about the deal gone sour. It paints a sad picture of the times. On
the other hand, you are a good friend, a gracious host, and an honest, fair
and informed parts source. A deal is a deal, but if the seller feels they
sold
too low , especially if they get input after the fact, they forget they set
the price and hate the buyer for ripping them off. You have the right to be
ticked off, but it is still her car to do with as she wishes. It may work in
your favor, I hope it does.
  Gloria and John Klingman
  Sidney, NY '68 2000 Spike... bought from Craig
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From stebharvey at ameritech.net  Tue Jul 29 04:19:20 2008
From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:19:20 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] GM Alternator Installation
Message-ID: <000001c8f164$913e4520$b3bacf60$@net>

During last weekend's Mississippi River run it was shown that my original
alternator had failed or is putting out a much lower amount of power and
it's time to switch to a new alternator.  Is there any posted information on
the correct wiring sequence (color to color) using a new GM style
alternator?  I've moved the alternator to the top right position already.
Any help is appreciated. 

 

As far as the river run, the roads and weather were great and the Roadster
people we met made for a perfect weekend.  It was decided that since we all
had a great time we should do a 2008.5 run again on October 10, 11 and 12.
Anyone who missed the first run is invited to join us for round two.

 

Steve Harvey

From tputland at charter.net  Tue Jul 29 08:07:32 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 7:07:32 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] First (bi ?)Annual Roadster Mississippi River Run
Message-ID: <20080729100732.XWDF7.145390.root@fepweb06>

We had a great turn out for the first Mississippi River Run. Four Roadsters and five couples. The whole weekend was an absolutely great time and the weather was just about perfect.  

Here is a web site my wife set up for our group to post their pictures. The site has been set up so those who attended the run can add their pictures of the trip to the site. So check back to see the rest of the pictures.

http://thedatsunroadtrippers.site.shutterfly.com/

Hopefully all can view the pictures. Please let me know if you are unable to view the pictures. 

We are planning another Roadster run the second weekend of October to see the fall colors, etc. All are welcome. Contact Steve Harvey (or myself) for details. 

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From tputland at charter.net  Tue Jul 29 09:30:47 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 8:30:47 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Need a Z car looked at
Message-ID: <20080729113047.CCMBS.147982.root@fepweb06>

Sorry for the (semi) OT.

Can someone post this to the Z car list please, and/or what ever else is appropriate.

I need some one in the Madison, WI or surrounding area who can look at a Z car and determine if the frame needs to be replaced on a 280 that was wrecked in the front end. The owner was told that the frame is shot but I had read that it might be possible to just remove the damaged bit and bolt in a replacement.

Please contact me direct if you can help or know someone who can help.

Thanks!


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From stl at adnc.com  Tue Jul 29 10:15:45 2008
From: stl at adnc.com (stl at adnc.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:15:45 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] resend deal because......
In-Reply-To: <911023.85959.qm@web31912.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <911023.85959.qm@web31912.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20080729091545.gqi4rbe8owskkcgw@webmail.americanis.net>

Phil,

I know that you were not intending to contribute to the spelling
thread, but ... the word for backing out of a deal is rescind, not
resend.

Steve

San Diego
69 2000



Quoting philip erickson <fj20spl311 at yahoo.com>:

> Craig and others,
>   I had the same thing happen to me 7-8 years ago.  I responded to
> an advertisement for a restored 67.5 2000 listed as must sell in
> Idaho....After talking to the owner, he honestly described that the
> car had been partially disassembled and cleaned, but not restored.
>   Still a very nice car for my purpose - driver while I work on my
> 69.  He wanted 10 or 11K for the car and I agreed.  When I called to
> schedule a time for me to fly up to pay and pick-up the car I was
> told that several people had called him to tell him that a restored
> 67.5 2000 was worth more and he should resend the deal.  I told him
> the best thing was for him to find a way to keep the car and enjoy
> the ride..........
>   Phil
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From turbored at gmail.com  Tue Jul 29 10:17:04 2008
From: turbored at gmail.com (turbored)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:17:04 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:  Spelling
In-Reply-To: <00e901c8edf9$285c5b00$0202a8c0@lapjoek>
References: <000801c8ec87$90e3d6d0$6402a8c0@gaxp1><001401c8ecc6$6571dda0$6500a8c0@LAP120><006c01c8eccb$1dd82580$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
	<002401c8eccc$147bcb80$3d736280$@com>
	<00e901c8edf9$285c5b00$0202a8c0@lapjoek>
Message-ID: <53B2E068-6BF5-4D88-AA92-4198C1F2CD1F@gmail.com>

Was the "right/write" intentional? Hilarious in any case.

Drew

P.S.
I'm a lurker who started lurking a while back. I inherited a 67.5 from  
my cousin, and haven't had a chance to really work on it. You guys  
will hear more from me when I start working on it, I'm sure.

On Jul 24, 2008, at 6:52 PM, Joe Kinstle wrote:

> I saw a sign next to Home Despot that said "Proffetional Roofing". I  
> didn't
> bother to right down the number, even though I could use a new  
> roof.  By
> far, the funniest things I have ever seen re: bad spelling is during  
> trips
> to Thailand.  Everything has bad spelling, be it a map, street sign  
> or bar
> menu in a 5 star restaurant. Even ATM's in English are goofy.   
> Sometimes I
> think it is intentional.
>
> Back to re-painting the trunk on the roadster.
>
> Joe Kinstle
> 68 2L
> BLK SRL
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From sandhoff at csus.edu  Tue Jul 29 10:39:38 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:39:38 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] New owner (was: Spelling)
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Message-ID: <488EE55A.7067.450E58@localhost>

> I'm a lurker who started lurking a while back. I inherited a 67.5 from  
> my cousin, and haven't had a chance to really work on it...

Come on, you can't just throw out a teaser like that...

Details, man, DETAILS. 1600 or 2L?

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From turbored at gmail.com  Tue Jul 29 10:47:19 2008
From: turbored at gmail.com (turbored)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:47:19 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] New owner (was: Spelling)
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	<488EE55A.7067.450E58@localhost>
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Sorry.

It's a 1600 #12061. Cousin was the original owner, bought it a couple  
weeks before he married. All original bits, pretty complete but also  
pretty rough. The tranny is shot, needs new synchros for 1st and 2nd.  
Drove it home from Berkeley, CA to San Francisco, CA, and drove it  
weekly, but the fuel lines clogged. Drained the gas tank, it didn't  
look bad, but I'm thinking I'll have it boiled out. I picked up a 2000  
swap from spriso, and so I'm planning on installing that when I get  
some time.

Drew

On Jul 29, 2008, at 9:39 AM, John F Sandhoff wrote:

>
>> I'm a lurker who started lurking a while back. I inherited a 67.5  
>> from
>> my cousin, and haven't had a chance to really work on it...
>
> Come on, you can't just throw out a teaser like that...
>
> Details, man, DETAILS. 1600 or 2L?
>
> -- John
>     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Jul 29 12:09:45 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:09:45 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws
In-Reply-To: <ae1f75970807281214tc01cb36h34549ef69260950@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <82A19EA5AE5046A782ACD4D92DCF5DBA@xp>

Time to break out the heavy artillery:

- PB Blaster
- Kroil
- Winzer 750
- Keith's Gen-U-Wine Old-Time Rust Buster (from earlier post): One of my
favorite rust penetrants is a half and half mix of acetone and ATF. Works
well and is cheap to boot. I read about some testing a while back where it
beat all the high priced stuff. Before removing any body hardware I soak
them with it and let it sit for a bit. If you can get to both sides even
better. Once the fastener starts turning shoot a little more on the threads.
If it turns tight you can spray a little on then turn it back in then back
it out again. This works the stuff into the threads. For ones that are
really tight warm them with a propane torch then spray. This helps to draw
it in.

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of D Riedel
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 12:15 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws


On a similar topic to the bolt heads... any hope of getting my sun-visor and
rear-view assembly off?  I've tried WD-40 so far without any success, but
I'm reluctant to really twist hard in fear of deforming the phillips head
and then never getting it off. Suggestions?

--
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Jul 29 12:16:26 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:16:26 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] GM Alternator Installation
In-Reply-To: <000001c8f164$913e4520$b3bacf60$@net>
Message-ID: <B3C0DED53696476BBD2172227E38B4CC@xp>

<http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.Electrical>

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Steve Harvey
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:19 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] GM Alternator Installation


During last weekend's Mississippi River run it was shown that my original
alternator had failed or is putting out a much lower amount of power and
it's time to switch to a new alternator.  Is there any posted information on
the correct wiring sequence (color to color) using a new GM style
alternator?  I've moved the alternator to the top right position already.
Any help is appreciated.

From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 29 12:24:37 2008
From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:24:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws
In-Reply-To: <ae1f75970807281214tc01cb36h34549ef69260950@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <32183.81069.qm@web53501.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Dave,
I have an original 64 with every screw and bolt on the car rusted in. Before I
attempt any removal, I soak the screw/bolt with Marvel Mystery oil and let it
set for 2-3 days....yeah, 2-3 DAYS!  It takes a lot of planning and patience,
but I've stopped busting bolt heads off or stripping screws.  A persuasive tap
with a hammer after soaking helps free them up.
Good luck!
Patti

--- On Mon, 7/28/08, D Riedel <stamuki at gmail.com> wrote:
From: D Riedel <stamuki at gmail.com>
Subject: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 12:14 PM

On a similar topic to the bolt heads... any hope of getting my
sun-visor and rear-view assembly off?  I've tried WD-40 so far without
any success, but I'm reluctant to really twist hard in fear of
deforming the phillips head and then never getting it off.
Suggestions?

--
Dave Riedel
'69 2000
Victoria, BC
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From tputland at charter.net  Tue Jul 29 13:07:51 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:07:51 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws
In-Reply-To: <32183.81069.qm@web53501.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20080729150751.YEEP1.153794.root@fepweb06>

I have let bolts soak for several days as well. With some of the fender bolts you most likley would not be able to get them out even after a week of soaking but the visor mounts should loosen up with some patient soaking.

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- Patti Dwinell <fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com> wrote: 

=============
Dave,
I have an original 64 with every screw and bolt on the car rusted in. Before I
attempt any removal, I soak the screw/bolt with Marvel Mystery oil and let it
set for 2-3 days....yeah, 2-3 DAYS!  It takes a lot of planning and patience,
but I've stopped busting bolt heads off or stripping screws.  A persuasive tap
with a hammer after soaking helps free them up.
Good luck!
Patti

--- On Mon, 7/28/08, D Riedel <stamuki at gmail.com> wrote:
From: D Riedel <stamuki at gmail.com>
Subject: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 12:14 PM

On a similar topic to the bolt heads... any hope of getting my
sun-visor and rear-view assembly off?  I've tried WD-40 so far without
any success, but I'm reluctant to really twist hard in fear of
deforming the phillips head and then never getting it off.
Suggestions?

--
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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Tue Jul 29 13:09:39 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:09:39 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws
Message-ID: <d01.375dfb80.35c0c4f3@aol.com>

I call it "secret snake oil" but I like your name.
 
 
In a message dated 7/29/2008 11:09:52 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
ppeters914 at comcast.net writes:

-  Keith's Gen-U-Wine Old-Time Rust Buster (from earlier post): One of  my
favorite rust penetrants is a half and half mix of acetone and  ATF.




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From datsundoc at aol.com  Tue Jul 29 14:04:19 2008
From: datsundoc at aol.com (datsundoc at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:04:19 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT Re:  Need a Z car looked at
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Tim, 
??? If the frame rails are bent they can be purchased and replaced but it's not a bolt on job. They must be carefully welded in place and in the correct alignment. The front cross member bolts to these rails and that locates the lower suspension arms. 

Mike Unger


-----Original Message-----
From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:30 am
Subject: [Roadsters] Need a Z car looked at



Sorry for the (semi) OT.

Can someone post this to the Z car list please, and/or what ever else is 
appropriate.

I need some one in the Madison, WI or surrounding area who can look at a Z car 
and determine if the frame needs to be replaced on a 280 that was wrecked in the 
front end. The owner was told that the frame is shot but I had read that it 
might be possible to just remove the damaged bit and bolt in a replacement.

Please contact me direct if you can help or know someone who can help.

Thanks!


Tim
Belleville, WI.
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Still clueless but always learning
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From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 29 14:09:49 2008
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:09:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws
In-Reply-To: <20080729150751.YEEP1.153794.root@fepweb06>
Message-ID: <75655.38455.qm@web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I believe Liquid Wrench works best, but it does take days, and it is best to wire brush any dirt/rust off the surface first. I have also been known to tap the metal parts with a hammer to help. 

JimG


--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:

> From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws
> To: "D Riedel" <stamuki at gmail.com>, fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com
> Cc: "All list" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 3:07 PM
> I have let bolts soak for several days as well. With some of
> the fender bolts you most likley would not be able to get
> them out even after a week of soaking but the visor mounts
> should loosen up with some patient soaking.
> 
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
> 
> ---- Patti Dwinell <fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com>
> wrote: 
> 
> =============
> Dave,
> I have an original 64 with every screw and bolt on the car
> rusted in. Before I
> attempt any removal, I soak the screw/bolt with Marvel
> Mystery oil and let it
> set for 2-3 days....yeah, 2-3 DAYS!  It takes a lot of
> planning and patience,
> but I've stopped busting bolt heads off or stripping
> screws.  A persuasive tap
> with a hammer after soaking helps free them up.
> Good luck!
> Patti
> 
> --- On Mon, 7/28/08, D Riedel <stamuki at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> From: D Riedel <stamuki at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 12:14 PM
> 
> On a similar topic to the bolt heads... any hope of getting
> my
> sun-visor and rear-view assembly off?  I've tried WD-40
> so far without
> any success, but I'm reluctant to really twist hard in
> fear of
> deforming the phillips head and then never getting it off.
> Suggestions?
> 
> --
> Dave Riedel
> '69 2000
> Victoria, BC
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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Tue Jul 29 14:26:12 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:26:12 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws
In-Reply-To: <75655.38455.qm@web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <20080729150751.YEEP1.153794.root@fepweb06>
	<75655.38455.qm@web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001101c8f1b9$5aca99d0$105fcd70$@net>

  Sun visors are easy.  Wait until you try the upper a-arm spindle bushings!
I soaked them for almost two weeks and still bent the breaker bar!

Paul
JB BLASTER user
Ohio

-----Original Message-----

I believe Liquid Wrench works best, but it does take days, and it is best to
wire brush any dirt/rust off the surface first. I have also been known to
tap the metal parts with a hammer to help. 

JimG

--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:

> I have let bolts soak for several days as well. With some of
> the fender bolts you most likley would not be able to get
> them out even after a week of soaking but the visor mounts
> should loosen up with some patient soaking.
> 
> Tim
> =============
> Dave,
> I have an original 64 with every screw and bolt on the car
> rusted in. Before I
> attempt any removal, I soak the screw/bolt with Marvel
> Mystery oil and let it
> set for 2-3 days....yeah, 2-3 DAYS!  It takes a lot of
> planning and patience,
> but I've stopped busting bolt heads off or stripping
> screws.  A persuasive tap
> with a hammer after soaking helps free them up.
> Good luck!
> Patti
> --- 
> 
> On a similar topic to the bolt heads... any hope of getting
> my
> sun-visor and rear-view assembly off?  I've tried WD-40
> so far without
> any success, but I'm reluctant to really twist hard in
> fear of
> deforming the phillips head and then never getting it off.
> Suggestions?
> 
> Dave Riedel

From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 29 14:35:12 2008
From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:35:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] distributors
Message-ID: <270375.7639.qm@web53511.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I have some questions about weight springs and thrust washers in a Hitachi
dizzy.  Anyone game?
Thanks!
Patti

From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 29 14:39:39 2008
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:39:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws
Message-ID: <970619.99436.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

hi everyone
i've been soaking (with liberal applications of PB Blaster) the studs holding on the thermostat housing to my aluminum R16 head for over a month.  and it still won't budge.  i've tried some manual persuasion of the hammering variety, to no avail.  should i add a little heat?
s
675MIZU


----- Original Message ----
From: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net>
To: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com; Datsun roadster <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 1:26:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws

  Sun visors are easy.  Wait until you try the upper a-arm spindle bushings!
I soaked them for almost two weeks and still bent the breaker bar!

Paul
JB BLASTER user
Ohio

-----Original Message-----

I believe Liquid Wrench works best, but it does take days, and it is best to
wire brush any dirt/rust off the surface first. I have also been known to
tap the metal parts with a hammer to help. 

JimG

--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:

> I have let bolts soak for several days as well. With some of
> the fender bolts you most likley would not be able to get
> them out even after a week of soaking but the visor mounts
> should loosen up with some patient soaking.
> 
> Tim
> =============
> Dave,
> I have an original 64 with every screw and bolt on the car
> rusted in. Before I
> attempt any removal, I soak the screw/bolt with Marvel
> Mystery oil and let it
> set for 2-3 days....yeah, 2-3 DAYS!  It takes a lot of
> planning and patience,
> but I've stopped busting bolt heads off or stripping
> screws.  A persuasive tap
> with a hammer after soaking helps free them up.
> Good luck!
> Patti
> --- 
> 
> On a similar topic to the bolt heads... any hope of getting
> my
> sun-visor and rear-view assembly off?  I've tried WD-40
> so far without
> any success, but I'm reluctant to really twist hard in
> fear of
> deforming the phillips head and then never getting it off.
> Suggestions?
> 
> Dave Riedel
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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Tue Jul 29 15:55:55 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:55:55 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws
Message-ID: <d08.3dc2c67b.35c0ebeb@aol.com>

The problem with those is that the stud is steel. It rusts and fills the  
space between the stud and housing with rust. Since rust is bigger than the  
parent metal it is packed in really tight. I assume the top piece that the  cap 
screws onto is removed. Take a drill with a 1/16" bit and drill down between  
the stud and the aluminum housing. Work your way around each stud drilling out  
the rust. This will give the penetrant somewhere to go. After drilling out the 
 rust fill the area around the stud with your favorite rust buster. Let it 
sit  for a few days topping it off if necessary. You can also tap the studs 
sideways  a bit with a plastic hammer to break up the rust. Then heat the housing 
till the  penetrant just starts to bubble. (warning: it may flame on you) Then 
tap  the sides of the housing with a plastic hammer. This should break it 
loose. Once  it is apart I usually replace the studs with ones made from 
stainless steel. My  next choice would be to clean and paint them then squirt grease 
between the stud  and housing when put back together.
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 7/29/2008 1:40:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com writes:

hi  everyone
i've been soaking (with liberal applications of PB Blaster) the  studs 
holding on the thermostat housing to my aluminum R16 head for over a  month.  and it 
still won't budge.  i've tried some manual persuasion  of the hammering 
variety, to no avail.  should i add a little  heat?
s
675MIZU






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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Jul 29 17:36:55 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:36:55 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws
Message-ID: <072920082336.1202.488FA9970008AFB8000004B22207000953CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Oh....goodie.....can't wait......

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net>
>   Sun visors are easy.  Wait until you try the upper a-arm spindle bushings!
> I soaked them for almost two weeks and still bent the breaker bar!
> 
> Paul
> JB BLASTER user
> Ohio
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> I believe Liquid Wrench works best, but it does take days, and it is best to
> wire brush any dirt/rust off the surface first. I have also been known to
> tap the metal parts with a hammer to help. 
> 
> JimG
> 
> --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:
> 
> > I have let bolts soak for several days as well. With some of
> > the fender bolts you most likley would not be able to get
> > them out even after a week of soaking but the visor mounts
> > should loosen up with some patient soaking.
> > 
> > Tim
> > =============
> > Dave,
> > I have an original 64 with every screw and bolt on the car
> > rusted in. Before I
> > attempt any removal, I soak the screw/bolt with Marvel
> > Mystery oil and let it
> > set for 2-3 days....yeah, 2-3 DAYS!  It takes a lot of
> > planning and patience,
> > but I've stopped busting bolt heads off or stripping
> > screws.  A persuasive tap
> > with a hammer after soaking helps free them up.
> > Good luck!
> > Patti
> > --- 
> > 
> > On a similar topic to the bolt heads... any hope of getting
> > my
> > sun-visor and rear-view assembly off?  I've tried WD-40
> > so far without
> > any success, but I'm reluctant to really twist hard in
> > fear of
> > deforming the phillips head and then never getting it off.
> > Suggestions?
> > 
> > Dave Riedel
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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Tue Jul 29 20:09:04 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:09:04 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] distributors
In-Reply-To: <270375.7639.qm@web53511.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000201c8f1e9$3f9da870$6800a8c0@delled48909442>

Well, I guess It falls to me. :) I have 25 of them disassembled all over
the shop.

Fire away.

Dave Brisco

Eastcoastroadster.com

(the distributor guy)

-----Original Message-----
From: Patti Dwinell [mailto:fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:35 PM
To: All list
Subject: [Roadsters] distributors


I have some questions about weight springs and thrust washers in a
Hitachi dizzy.  Anyone game? Thanks! Patti

From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 29 20:12:37 2008
From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:12:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] distributors
In-Reply-To: <001101c8f1d5$af772bd0$6401a8c0@datsunspcb0fcp>
Message-ID: <903316.67240.qm@web53507.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

HUH?? Are you talking about distributors or carburetors?  At the risk of
sounding ignorant, I thought there were just Hitachi and Mitsubishi dizzys. 
My questions are:
Are the weight springs always and forever two different sizes?
Are the springs supposed to pull the weights in?
and....
How important is it to have the thrust washer under the weights?
Thanks!
Patti
By the way....will the new EI dizzys work with a positive ground?

From aultgc at att.net  Tue Jul 29 22:14:54 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:14:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb tuning (And the winner is)
Message-ID: <630895.20724.qm@web83816.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Keith,
 
I have been using 20W 3-in-1 motor oil for nearly 40 years.  Seems to
work fine.  I may try ATF to see if there is a difference, though.
 
Gary
----- Original Message ----
From: "Keith0alan at aol.com" <Keith0alan at aol.com>
To: daveandlindab at comcast.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday,
July 28, 2008 8:13:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Carb tuning (And the winner
is)

It doesn't have to be specifically dash pot oil. As long as it's the 
correct 
weight most any oil will do. ATF, MMM, Power steering fluid, engine
oil,  
motorcycle fork oil all work well. 3 in 1 and WD-40 don't work so well.
keith


In a message dated 7/27/2008 11:34:58 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
daveandlindab at comcast.net writes:

I use  Dexron ATF.. Marvel Mystery Oil made
it ping on acceleration,
luckily my  daughter was kind enough to buy me a 2 qt
can of MMO, asked
for the little  bottle :(  I dumped the rest of the can in
all my gas
tanks. The Dodge  ran better.

-----Original Message-----
From:
Stan Rasmussen  [mailto:razmataz at indy.net] 
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 11:04
PM
To:  'stan'; 'Datsun Roadster List'
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Carb tuning
(And  the winner is)

I'm glad to hear this news, I've found one place that 
carries Dashpot
oil, does any one know of a common place to find  it?
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From BARTERDUDE at aol.com  Tue Jul 29 22:35:10 2008
From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:35:10 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Time to sell one of the roadsters
Message-ID: <c4b.332f9aa8.35c1497e@aol.com>

Hey Group -
 
I have 6 roadsters and I need to focus on completion restoration of some of  
the other cars, so I am selling my gorgeous licensed as a 1970 (okay it's a  
'69 production) Datsun 2000.  Several sources to see some pictures:
 
_http://denver.craigslist.org/car/775382281.html_ 
(http://denver.craigslist.org/car/775382281.html) 
 
or go to _http://www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.WyCROC.org)  and  click on the 
FOR SALE link.  You can also see some of the restoration shots  by clicking on 
THE GANG and scrolling down and click on GARY LASATER and then  scrolling to 
the '69 2000.
 
As indicated I have well over $13K in restoration costs, but only  asking in 
between the Average and High Price against the values in the  Hemmings Motor 
News article on the 1600 in September 2007.
 
 
What to Pay- Datsun 1600 Sports SPL-311 
Low          Average                   High 
1965/6            $4,000       $7,500               $14,500 
1967              $4,000       $7,500  $14,000 
1968              $3,500       $7,000               $13,500 
1969  $3,500       $7,000               $13,000 
1970  $3,500       $7,000               $13,000
 
Most anyone  in the WyCROC group is aware of this car and would give an 
endorsement.   One in particular, who races a 2000 and does repair work, made a fun 
observation  after an oil change --- "wow this is one fast 2000".  That's 
what  a well built and balanced motor along with the Boone dizzy installed and 
tuned  by the man himself - Gary Boone.
 
Pass it along to anyone you may know thinking of a roadster.  Thanks  in 
advance.
 
Gary Lasater  - Parker CO
founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 
1963 SPL310-00161C (Single  Carb)
1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb)
1964 SPL310-01289
1968  SRL311-11977
1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70)
1970 SPL311-28169 



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From aultgc at att.net  Tue Jul 29 22:39:17 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:39:17 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: your datsun roadster
References: <023f01c8f0d8$17070f80$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>
	<8CABEF7FE4E8F3C-13E4-BD@webmail-db16.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <002201c8f1fe$3a32e3e0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

Not unlikely unless the car is in excellent condition.  From what I have 
heard, it needs a lot of work.  A very nice '67.5 2000 was offered on eBay a 
few weeks back, having been restored by Mike Young, and garnered a high bid 
of only $16,000, as I recall.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <wchmch at aol.com>
To: <chalsted at comcast.net>; <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fw: your datsun roadster


> 25,000??? B Is that right?
>
>
> We were told also today the car is
> worth anywhere from 4,000 (needing complete restoration) and upwards of
> 25,000
> if it had the 2000 motor.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chalsted <chalsted at comcast.net>
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Sent: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:33 pm
> Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: your datsun roadster
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: JustForeLu at aol.com
> To: chalsted at comcast.net
> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 11:46 PM
> Subject: Re: your datsun roadster
>
>
> Hello Craig,
>
> We have shown the car to several people over the weekend, and low and 
> behold
> there seems to be Great interest in my car. I have pulled it off of
> craigslist
> due to the overwhelming response. Today, I was offered a lot more then I
> listed the car for and I haven't made any decisions yet, I did enjoy 
> talking
> with you and feel you would give my car a good home. Also, to let you 
> know, I
> met a few people today that apparently Know you and said you were a good 
> man
> to deal with, One offer is 4,800.00 cash. We were told also today the car 
> is
> worth anywhere from 4,000 (needing complete restoration) and upwards of
> 25,000
> if it had the 2000 motor. We are feeling at this time that we need to look 
> at
> all offers, and are not making a final decision until later this week. 
> Thank
> you, Craig and we'll keep you posted!
>
>
>
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From vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 29 23:02:32 2008
From: vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com (Vince Strazzabosco)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:02:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] First (bi ?)Annual Roadster Mississippi River  Run
In-Reply-To: <20080729100732.XWDF7.145390.root@fepweb06>
Message-ID: <230216.57944.qm@web33502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Neat little trip...nice pictures!

I see you stayed at the L & M Motel in Savannah and visited Chestnut Mountain...been there on vintage cycle rides.  Maybe next time I'll have a roadster that needs some road tripping...

vince
Naperville, IL


--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:

> From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
> Subject: [Roadsters] First (bi ?)Annual Roadster Mississippi River Run
> To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 9:07 AM
> We had a great turn out for the first Mississippi River Run.
> Four Roadsters and five couples. The whole weekend was an
> absolutely great time and the weather was just about
> perfect.  
> 
> Here is a web site my wife set up for our group to post
> their pictures. The site has been set up so those who
> attended the run can add their pictures of the trip to the
> site. So check back to see the rest of the pictures.
> 
> http://thedatsunroadtrippers.site.shutterfly.com/
> 
> Hopefully all can view the pictures. Please let me know if
> you are unable to view the pictures. 
> 
> We are planning another Roadster run the second weekend of
> October to see the fall colors, etc. All are welcome.
> Contact Steve Harvey (or myself) for details. 
> 
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
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From aultgc at att.net  Tue Jul 29 23:15:29 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:15:29 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] distributors
References: <903316.67240.qm@web53507.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001501c8f203$497b7330$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

Patti,

The springs pull the weights in, i.e., as the distributor spins faster, the 
weights try to move outward against the springs.

I don't recall a thrust washer under the weights.

For spring sizes, I need to get at my parts book, and spare distributors. 
They're all in storage right now, while the garage addition is being 
constructed.

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patti Dwinell" <fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com>
To: "Al Boettcher" <roadsters311 at rogers.com>
Cc: "All list" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] distributors


> HUH?? Are you talking about distributors or carburetors?  At the risk of
> sounding ignorant, I thought there were just Hitachi and Mitsubishi 
> dizzys.
> My questions are:
> Are the weight springs always and forever two different sizes?
> Are the springs supposed to pull the weights in?
> and....
> How important is it to have the thrust washer under the weights?
> Thanks!
> Patti
> By the way....will the new EI dizzys work with a positive ground?
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From barterdude at comcast.net  Wed Jul 30 02:30:57 2008
From: barterdude at comcast.net (barterdude)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:30:57 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Datsun 2000 for sale
Message-ID: <3033306A0EDC4AF1A043EB77864460BF@XPLaptop>

Hey Group -

 

I have 6 roadsters and I need to focus on completion restoration of some of
the other cars, so I am selling my gorgeous licensed as a 1970 (okay it's a
'69 production) Datsun 2000.  Several sources to see some pictures:

 

http://denver.craigslist.org/car/775382281.html

 

or go to http://www.WyCROC.org <http://www.wycroc.org/>  and click on the
FOR SALE link.  You can also see some of the restoration shots by clicking
on THE GANG and scrolling down and click on GARY LASATER and then scrolling
to the '69 2000.

 

I have well over $13K in restoration costs, but only asking in between the
Average and High Price against the values in the Hemmings Motor News article
on the 1600 in September 2007.

 

What to Pay- Datsun 1600 Sports SPL-311

                     Low         Average                         High

1965/6           $4,000       $7,500                      $14,500

1967              $4,000       $7,500                      $14,000

1968              $3,500       $7,000                      $13,500

1969              $3,500       $7,000                      $13,000

1970              $3,500       $7,000                      $13,000

 

Most anyone in the WyCROC group is aware of this car and would give an
endorsement.  One in particular, who races a 2000 and does repair work, made
a fun observation after an oil change --- "wow this is one fast 2000".
That's what a well built and balanced motor along with the Boone dizzy
installed and tuned by the man himself - Gary Boone.

 

Pass it along to anyone you may know thinking of a roadster.  Thanks in
advance.

 

Gary Lasater - Parker CO
founding member www.WyCROC.org <http://www.wycroc.org/> 
1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb)
1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb)
1964 SPL310-01289
1968 SRL311-11977
1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70)
1970 SPL311-28169 

From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 30 02:52:11 2008
From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:52:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] distributors
In-Reply-To: <001501c8f203$497b7330$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <907417.1544.qm@web53512.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Gary,
My distributor has two springs of different sizes...one rather hefty wire with
4 windings and the other rather thin wire with 8 windings.  They are both the
same length. The hefty one was not putting any tension on the governor weight
what-so-ever.  The weight literally flops around loosely on it's peg.  I have
a new set of springs.... one larger than the other, like my original ones. (I
believe the part number is 22110-14600.)   I exchanged the hefty springs...old
for new.  It was the same, in that it put no tension on the weight and it too
was floppy. I think this is very odd.  Why would one be so loose? I installed
the new thin one, instead, and it seems a much better fit in that now both
weights have slight tension holding them in toward the cam.  Which is
correct??? 
Regarding thrust washers...  I've located two part numbers 22117-85060 and
22118-85060.
I believe it was one of the 22118-85060's that I discovered in the bottom of
the housing as a crunched bit of metal.  It is very worn, was all folded up
and broken in half. It appears it didn't get in this condition overnight, so I
was wondering if I should even bother searching for a replacement. What is it
"thrusting" anyway?
I have no idea if this dizzy will work any better clean than when it did
coated in nasty 40 year old grease...but I figured I'd give it another chance.
Thanks!
Patti

--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Gary and Cindy Ault <aultgc at att.net> wrote:
From: Gary and Cindy Ault <aultgc at att.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] distributors
To: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com, "Al Boettcher" <roadsters311 at rogers.com>
Cc: "All list" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 10:15 PM

Patti,

The springs pull the weights in, i.e., as the distributor spins faster, the
weights try to move outward against the springs.

I don't recall a thrust washer under the weights.

For spring sizes, I need to get at my parts book, and spare distributors.
They're all in storage right now, while the garage addition is being
constructed.

Gary
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters

From tputland at charter.net  Wed Jul 30 05:10:08 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 7:10:08 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] First (bi ?)Annual Roadster Mississippi River  Run
In-Reply-To: <230216.57944.qm@web33502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20080730071009.I0A3R.178791.root@fepweb08>

We are planning another run the second weekend of October.  You are more than welcome to join us. Do you have a running roadster right now? 

Yea, the L&M, quite interesting place. We didn't realize that the whole of Savanna, Illinois is a biker destination. They were all cool though. The owner's (of the L&M) party that night was the noisy one. The bikers were all quiet by 11 pm or so that night. The owner went at it way after midnight. Nice clean rooms though. 

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- Vince Strazzabosco <vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com> wrote: 

=============
Neat little trip...nice pictures!

I see you stayed at the L & M Motel in Savannah and visited Chestnut Mountain...been there on vintage cycle rides.  Maybe next time I'll have a roadster that needs some road tripping...

vince
Naperville, IL


--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:

> From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
> Subject: [Roadsters] First (bi ?)Annual Roadster Mississippi River Run
> To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 9:07 AM
> We had a great turn out for the first Mississippi River Run.
> Four Roadsters and five couples. The whole weekend was an
> absolutely great time and the weather was just about
> perfect.  
> 
> Here is a web site my wife set up for our group to post
> their pictures. The site has been set up so those who
> attended the run can add their pictures of the trip to the
> site. So check back to see the rest of the pictures.
> 
> http://thedatsunroadtrippers.site.shutterfly.com/
> 
> Hopefully all can view the pictures. Please let me know if
> you are unable to view the pictures. 
> 
> We are planning another Roadster run the second weekend of
> October to see the fall colors, etc. All are welcome.
> Contact Steve Harvey (or myself) for details. 
> 
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
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From dhyson at charter.net  Wed Jul 30 07:13:49 2008
From: dhyson at charter.net (Durf & Sue Hyson)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:13:49 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] [Fwd: Re:  distributors]
Message-ID: <4890690D.3030402@charter.net>

-------- Original Message --------

	

	

	
To: 	
References: 	



The springs may not do much with the distributor at rest (not spinning) 
When it spins centrifugal force makes the weights in the advance 
mechanism swing out away from their resting position. The different 
tension of the two springs controls the speed and amount the weights 
move out until the dizzy is spinning at the speed that gives maximum 
advance. This process of controlling the weights differently is what 
gives you the spark advance "curve" that you hear about . If you still 
have the dizzy out and the springs off try giving the shaft a sudden 
spin with your fingers in the direction in normally rotates . You will 
see how the weights fly out and how the springs would restrict them .
Tuning the advance curve with different weights and springs used to be a 
real common thing.. It is usually done on a distributor testing machine 
so you can see and record what you end up with for an advance curve. If 
you run both light springs you are going to make the dizzy get to 
maximum advance at a lower RPM. This should lead to the car feeling 
snappier and the engine being quicker or more willing to rev . The thing 
you must be extremely careful about is that all that advance may make 
the engine ping and/or detonate. This will  , in a relatively short 
period of time , kill the engine. I for one wouldn't try it but you 
should consult some more regular roadster tuners as I am primarily an 
L-series  , ex-roadster guy .  The characteristics of what advance curve 
an engine is happy with vary from engine type to engine type . Even 
within an engine family things like compression , carb/s , and cams will 
make the best curve different . This is why I defer to the people who 
fool with roadster engines all the time for advice on exactly what 
springs you should run .

Thanks,
Durf


Patti Dwinell wrote:
> Gary,
> My distributor has two springs of different sizes...one rather hefty wire with
> 4 windings and the other rather thin wire with 8 windings.  They are both the
> same length. The hefty one was not putting any tension on the governor weight
> what-so-ever.

From cookefam314 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 30 08:03:00 2008
From: cookefam314 at yahoo.com (Dave Cooke)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:03:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] First (bi ?)Annual Roadster Mississippi River Run
Message-ID: <538136.12575.qm@web36603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

My lonely little old midwest roadster smiled today, I think this is the 2nd time in the last 18 years that I've seen more than one Midwest Roadster together in a group. It's about time we Midwest Roadster owners got together (I think the last time was Road America in the mid 90's). I'm looking at my calendar right now to see if I can join the next run. You're photos have encouraged me to pick up my wrench & keep working on my roadster, now I have new motivation to get her running again.

Dave Cooke
1969 1600
Lake In The Hills, IL


> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 7:07:32 -0700
> From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
> Subject: [Roadsters] First (bi ?)Annual Roadster
> Mississippi River Run
> To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net"
> 	<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Message-ID:
> <20080729100732.XWDF7.145390.root at fepweb06>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> We had a great turn out for the first Mississippi River
> Run. Four Roadsters and five couples. The whole weekend was
> an absolutely great time and the weather was just about
> perfect.  
> 
> Here is a web site my wife set up for our group to post
> their pictures. The site has been set up so those who
> attended the run can add their pictures of the trip to the
> site. So check back to see the rest of the pictures.
> 
> http://thedatsunroadtrippers.site.shutterfly.com/
> 
> Hopefully all can view the pictures. Please let me know if
> you are unable to view the pictures. 
> 
> We are planning another Roadster run the second weekend of
> October to see the fall colors, etc. All are welcome.
> Contact Steve Harvey (or myself) for details. 
> 
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning

From roadster68 at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 30 08:20:31 2008
From: roadster68 at shaw.ca (Larry Dziuba)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:20:31 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws
References: <d08.3dc2c67b.35c0ebeb@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002101c8f24f$6c67f6b0$6401a8c0@useravjfzd6udp>

My sun visor ends do not sit square to the housing so tightening the screws 
does nothing to keep them up and out of my way.  The screws see to be very 
short.  Any ideas?  Larry.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Keith0alan at aol.com>
To: <vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com>; <9laser3 at bright.net>; 
<gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com>; <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws


> The problem with those is that the stud is steel. It rusts and fills the
> space between the stud and housing with rust. Since rust is bigger than 
> the
> parent metal it is packed in really tight. I assume the top piece that the 
> cap
> screws onto is removed. Take a drill with a 1/16" bit and drill down 
> between
> the stud and the aluminum housing. Work your way around each stud drilling 
> out
> the rust. This will give the penetrant somewhere to go. After drilling out 
> the
> rust fill the area around the stud with your favorite rust buster. Let it
> sit  for a few days topping it off if necessary. You can also tap the 
> studs
> sideways  a bit with a plastic hammer to break up the rust. Then heat the 
> housing
> till the  penetrant just starts to bubble. (warning: it may flame on you) 
> Then
> tap  the sides of the housing with a plastic hammer. This should break it
> loose. Once  it is apart I usually replace the studs with ones made from
> stainless steel. My  next choice would be to clean and paint them then 
> squirt grease
> between the stud  and housing when put back together.
>
> keith
>
>
> In a message dated 7/29/2008 1:40:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com writes:
>
> hi  everyone
> i've been soaking (with liberal applications of PB Blaster) the  studs
> holding on the thermostat housing to my aluminum R16 head for over a 
> month.  and it
> still won't budge.  i've tried some manual persuasion  of the hammering
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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Wed Jul 30 08:47:23 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:47:23 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] [Fwd: Re:  distributors]
Message-ID: <c04.40e7d1ad.35c1d8fb@aol.com>

If you look in the manual the roadster has a two stage curve. One slope at  
the beginning then another at higher rpm. This happens because one spring is a  
bit longer and doesn't do anything till the other one is stretched out a  bit.
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 7/30/2008 6:14:44 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
dhyson at charter.net writes:


To:     
References:     



The  springs may not do much with the distributor at rest (not spinning) 
When  it spins centrifugal force makes the weights in the advance 
mechanism  swing out away from their resting position. The different 
tension of the  two springs controls the speed and amount the weights 
move out until the  dizzy is spinning at the speed that gives maximum 
advance. This process of  controlling the weights differently is what 
gives you the spark advance  "curve" that you hear about . If you still 
have the dizzy out and the  springs off try giving the shaft a sudden 
spin with your fingers in the  direction in normally rotates . You will 
see how the weights fly out and  how the springs would restrict them .
Tuning the advance curve with  different weights and springs used to be a 
real common thing.. It is  usually done on a distributor testing machine 
so you can see and record  what you end up with for an advance curve. If 
you run both light springs  you are going to make the dizzy get to 
maximum advance at a lower RPM.  This should lead to the car feeling 
snappier and the engine being quicker  or more willing to rev . The thing 
you must be extremely careful about is  that all that advance may make 
the engine ping and/or detonate. This  will  , in a relatively short 
period of time , kill the engine. I for  one wouldn't try it but you 
should consult some more regular roadster  tuners as I am primarily an 
L-series  , ex-roadster guy .  The  characteristics of what advance curve 
an engine is happy with vary from  engine type to engine type . Even 
within an engine family things like  compression , carb/s , and cams will 
make the best curve different . This  is why I defer to the people who 
fool with roadster engines all the time  for advice on exactly what 
springs you should run  .

Thanks,
Durf


Patti Dwinell wrote:
> Gary,
>  My distributor has two springs of different sizes...one rather hefty wire  
with
> 4 windings and the other rather thin wire with 8 windings.   They are both 
the
> same length. The hefty one was not putting any  tension on the governor 
weight
>  what-so-ever




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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Wed Jul 30 08:51:25 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:51:25 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb tuning (And the winner is)
Message-ID: <c6e.25a9b00b.35c1d9ed@aol.com>

A bit thick is better than a bit thin. These engines are much happier  
running rich than lean.
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 7/29/2008 9:15:27 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
aultgc at att.net writes:

Keith,

I have been using 20W 3-in-1 motor oil for nearly 40  years.  Seems to
work fine.  I may try ATF to see if there is a  difference,  though.

Gary





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From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 30 12:38:26 2008
From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:38:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] distributors
In-Reply-To: <489099CD.7080705@charter.net>
Message-ID: <288955.76438.qm@web53504.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Jonny 5,
I located a single, very badly damaged washer (and a small square nut from the
terminal) when I cleaned the sludge out from bottom of the distributor
housing.  Referring to the picture of the Hitachi Distributor in the parts
manual Lars has posted on the 311s.org site, I believe it to have been item 33
or 34.   I can't tell from the illustration exactly where they go, how many
should really be in there, or if this/these are critically necessary. 
What do you think? 
Thanks!
Patti

--- On Wed, 7/30/08, Durf & Sue Hyson <dhyson at charter.net> wrote:
From: Durf & Sue Hyson <dhyson at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] distributors
To: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com
Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 9:41 AM

Define thrust washer . I suspect there was a small fiber washer
underneath the weight ? Is there a bushing in the hole in the weight ?
As Jonny 5 would say "Input ! I need input !"

Durf

Patti Dwinell wrote:
> Durf,
> Thanks!  Now that makes sense! I'll put the heavier spring back.
> What about my crunched thrust washer? Any ideas there?
> Thanks!
> Patti

From sandhoff at csus.edu  Wed Jul 30 14:38:36 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:38:36 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws
In-Reply-To: <002101c8f24f$6c67f6b0$6401a8c0@useravjfzd6udp>
Message-ID: <48906EDC.18416.98055B@localhost>

> My sun visor ends do not sit square to the housing so tightening the
> screws does nothing to keep them up and out of my way.

The set screws keep the SHAFTS from rotating. The visors clamp
onto the rods; if the visors don't stay put, they're not clamping onto
the rod tightly enough. The clamping action is provided, I believe,
simply by a piece of metal inside the visor that's wrapped around
the shaft and is not adjustable other than by taking the visor off the
arm and bending that metal 'tab' a bit tighter.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From jake7140 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 30 17:56:20 2008
From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:56:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Multi roadsters
In-Reply-To: <mailman.27.1217440803.2549.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <414112.4726.qm@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

We're out here. Some pics from Road America...

http://jakenet.homeip.net/roadster/index.html

I'm really bummed I missed the river trip. The race engine and welded axle
will be in before the October run though, so I don't think I'll be on the
street with it again.  But I've done crazier things...

Steve Steve's Racing web site
  www.NoNameRacing.com
Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society home 
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:03:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Cooke <cookefam314 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] First (bi ?)Annual Roadster Mississippi River
	Run
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Message-ID: <538136.12575.qm at web36603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

My lonely little old midwest roadster smiled today, I think this is the 2nd
time in the last 18 years that I've seen more than one Midwest Roadster
together in a group. It's about time we Midwest Roadster owners got together
(I think the last time was Road America in the mid 90's). I'm looking at
my calendar right now to see if I can join the next run. You're photos have
encouraged me to pick up my wrench & keep working on my roadster, now I have
new motivation to get her running again.

Dave Cooke
1969 1600
Lake In The Hills, IL

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul 30 21:04:30 2008
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:04:30 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] a little help, please, identifying parts
References: <d01.375dfb80.35c0c4f3@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000201c8f2ba$27a67b80$6415a8c0@garage.local>

early 67 (low windshield; obviously a 1600) roadster

http://www.ranteer.com/misc1/

there are two pictures.  the top one, well, i have no idea what these are. 
upholstery related????

the bottom one - that's the drain valve from the back of the engine?  which 
i couldn't find and substituted a standard hardware store piece?

thanks!

also - any trick to aligning the trunk catch and the lock?  i'm putting 
those together tomorrow after i go to the hardware store and buy new bolts 
because, oh yeah, i haven't a clue where the originals went . . . 

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Wed Jul 30 21:15:34 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:15:34 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] a little help, please, identifying parts
In-Reply-To: <000201c8f2ba$27a67b80$6415a8c0@garage.local>
References: <d01.375dfb80.35c0c4f3@aol.com>
	<000201c8f2ba$27a67b80$6415a8c0@garage.local>
Message-ID: <000001c8f2bb$b2f7f5a0$18e7e0e0$@net>

You're close - almost upholstery related. Top-related actually. Those mount
to the inside of the body just behind the doors. There are cables that run
from the front bow on the top, back around the window opening, and a flat
piece on the end slips into the clamp-like area of those parts to tension
the top around the window glass. Hard to visualize from a description, but
as soon as you see it on the car, you'll understand.

Gordon Glasgow
-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Oliver
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:05 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] a little help, please, identifying parts

early 67 (low windshield; obviously a 1600) roadster

http://www.ranteer.com/misc1/

there are two pictures.  the top one, well, i have no idea what these are. 
upholstery related????

the bottom one - that's the drain valve from the back of the engine?  which 
i couldn't find and substituted a standard hardware store piece?

thanks!

also - any trick to aligning the trunk catch and the lock?  i'm putting 
those together tomorrow after i go to the hardware store and buy new bolts 
because, oh yeah, i haven't a clue where the originals went . . . 
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From aultgc at att.net  Wed Jul 30 21:59:55 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:59:55 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] a little help, please, identifying parts
References: <d01.375dfb80.35c0c4f3@aol.com>
	<000201c8f2ba$27a67b80$6415a8c0@garage.local>
Message-ID: <00f301c8f2c1$e5079b30$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

Oliver,

The two mystery parts bolt to the inside door edge, behind the the door 
opening.  Original tops have a coiled wire running through a channel around 
the window from the front of the top frame to the point where the soft top 
is secured to the body just behind the door opening.  The coiled wires 
terminate in plates which slide into the pieces in question.  The coiled 
wire/plate assembly works to press the edge of the soft top into the window 
glass from the insdie, helping to seal out the weather.  I'll try to get you 
a photo of mine.

Gary Ault

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Oliver" <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:04 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] a little help, please, identifying parts


> early 67 (low windshield; obviously a 1600) roadster
>
> http://www.ranteer.com/misc1/
>
> there are two pictures.  the top one, well, i have no idea what these are.
> upholstery related????
>
> the bottom one - that's the drain valve from the back of the engine? 
> which
> i couldn't find and substituted a standard hardware store piece?
>
> thanks!
>
> also - any trick to aligning the trunk catch and the lock?  i'm putting
> those together tomorrow after i go to the hardware store and buy new bolts
> because, oh yeah, i haven't a clue where the originals went . . .
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From escanlon at wa-net.com  Thu Jul 31 00:24:35 2008
From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:24:35 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] a little help, please, identifying parts
References: <d01.375dfb80.35c0c4f3@aol.com>
	<000201c8f2ba$27a67b80$6415a8c0@garage.local>
Message-ID: <000801c8f2d6$1a7afcd0$0300a8c0@HPW>

Oliver, forgot to mention that the side window cable stays mount with the 
screw holes to the back, the rest of the piece just behind the door opening.

E

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Oliver" <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:04 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] a little help, please, identifying parts


> early 67 (low windshield; obviously a 1600) roadster
>
> http://www.ranteer.com/misc1/
>
> there are two pictures.  the top one, well, i have no idea what these are.
> upholstery related????
>
> the bottom one - that's the drain valve from the back of the engine? 
> which
> i couldn't find and substituted a standard hardware store piece?
>
> thanks!
>
> also - any trick to aligning the trunk catch and the lock?  i'm putting
> those together tomorrow after i go to the hardware store and buy new bolts
> because, oh yeah, i haven't a clue where the originals went . . .
> _ 

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jul 31 08:19:41 2008
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:19:41 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] one more part!
References: <BAY101-DS217353ACD44ED684FDA37B4DE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <002801c8f318$7bba22e0$6415a8c0@garage.local>

First of all, many thanks to Gordon, Henry, and Enrique!  I never would have 
figured out the convertible top part or where it goes.

hopefully i'm set for a while after i find out what's this???

www.ranteer.com/misc1

From roadstergb at aol.com  Thu Jul 31 10:19:14 2008
From: roadstergb at aol.com (roadstergb at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:19:14 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] fairlady.org website update
Message-ID: <8CAC1404EEF0DD2-11D8-2B5@webmail-db16.sysops.aol.com>

Hello All

The latest project on www.fairlady.org shows some interesting Japanese Fairlady and Silvia images.
?
See www.datsun.org/fairlady/japanesecalendars.htm or www.datsun.org/fairlady/intro.htm 

Cheers from England.

Rob
PS If anyone's interested, I've just bought a vintage 1971 Nissan Skyline GT - it's fabulous - see www.datsun.org/fairlady/086.JPG 
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From gregs672liter at netzero.net  Thu Jul 31 11:26:34 2008
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:26:34 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] Side mirrors
Message-ID: <20080731.102634.19474.1@webmail03.vgs.untd.com>

OK gang, I am happy to say that I think all major body work is FINALLY done on
the '67, and I may just get it in primer by Monday (yeah!).  I am looking for
new side mirrors and asking for suggestions.  I used to have "baby turbo"
mirrors on it, which I liked but they did not work particularly well and
tended to giggle a lot.  I'm looking for some alternatives that people have
liked (reasonably priced).  Mirrors will be on both sides.  My car as most of
you know is not stock, so I am open to just about anything that looks good and
actually works.
Thanks!
Greg Burrows
67 2000
Bonney Lake, WA
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From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 31 11:27:40 2008
From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:27:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] one more part!
In-Reply-To: <002801c8f318$7bba22e0$6415a8c0@garage.local>
Message-ID: <51142.8296.qm@web53501.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Oliver, 
Looks like the plate that goes behind the door hinge, to me.
Patti

--- On Thu, 7/31/08, Oliver <sumton at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
From: Oliver <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [Roadsters] one more part!
To: "Datsun Club" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 7:19 AM

First of all, many thanks to Gordon, Henry, and Enrique!  I never would have 
figured out the convertible top part or where it goes.

hopefully i'm set for a while after i find out what's this???

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From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jul 31 12:33:11 2008
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:33:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Side mirrors
In-Reply-To: <20080731.102634.19474.1@webmail03.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <269759.78670.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Did you have to tickle them to make them giggle, or did they do it on their own? Did they jiggle when they giggled?

(Sorry - I couldn't help myself...)

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

"gregs672liter at netzero.net" <gregs672liter at netzero.net> wrote:<snip>I used to have "baby turbo"
mirrors on it, which I liked but they did not work particularly well and
tended to giggle a lot.<snip>

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Thu Jul 31 13:40:03 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:40:03 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Side mirrors
In-Reply-To: <20080731.102634.19474.1@webmail03.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20080731.102634.19474.1@webmail03.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <8CAC15C5C96BC47-1788-E77@mblk-d39.sysops.aol.com>

 Here's a link to some MG mirrors and stuff that can be used on our car:
http://bhive.tierranet.com/412MGBexteriormirros.htm

Linda


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net <gregs672liter at netzero.net>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:26 am
Subject: [Roadsters] Side mirrors










OK gang, I am happy to say that I think all major body work is FINALLY done on
the '67, and I may just get it in primer by Monday (yeah!).  I am looking for
new side mirrors and asking for suggestions.  I used to have "baby turbo"
mirrors on it, which I liked but they did not work particularly well and
tended to giggle a lot.  I'm looking for some alternatives that people have
liked (reasonably priced).  Mirrors will be on both sides.  My car as most of
you know is not stock, so I am open to just about anything that looks good and
actually works.
Thanks!
Greg Burrows
67 2000
Bonney Lake, WA
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From tputland at charter.net  Thu Jul 31 14:04:18 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:04:18 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Side mirrors
In-Reply-To: <8CAC15C5C96BC47-1788-E77@mblk-d39.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <20080731160418.OMWYA.23233.root@mp15>

Which vendor sells the mirrors that were stock on these cars? I am referring to the style mirror on the cars that had two mirrors mounted on the fenders.


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: 

=============
 Here's a link to some MG mirrors and stuff that can be used on our car:
http://bhive.tierranet.com/412MGBexteriormirros.htm

Linda


 


 

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From: gregs672liter at netzero.net <gregs672liter at netzero.net>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:26 am
Subject: [Roadsters] Side mirrors










OK gang, I am happy to say that I think all major body work is FINALLY done on
the '67, and I may just get it in primer by Monday (yeah!).  I am looking for
new side mirrors and asking for suggestions.  I used to have "baby turbo"
mirrors on it, which I liked but they did not work particularly well and
tended to giggle a lot.  I'm looking for some alternatives that people have
liked (reasonably priced).  Mirrors will be on both sides.  My car as most of
you know is not stock, so I am open to just about anything that looks good and
actually works.
Thanks!
Greg Burrows
67 2000
Bonney Lake, WA
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From jklingman at stny.rr.com  Thu Jul 31 14:17:24 2008
From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:17:24 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns at Carlisle, 2009
Message-ID: <000c01c8f34a$72403880$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>

Here's some good news. A friend just emailed me that in his new copy of Old
Cars Weekly is an update on Carlisle Import Kit / Replicar weekend, May 17-19,
2009. They showed a picture of Datsun owners, no cars, who were there this
year and said many more will be there next year as the Japanese sports car
will be the featured car. We were at Import Carlisle this past May, 2
roadsters were there, and heard they were planning to feature Japanese cars in
2009, didn't want to start an idle rumor. Now you all have time make plans.
  I laughed about the picture of owners without cars as we have not had our
roadster back all summer. Well, it was laugh or cry. I just hope Spike is
ready for the Glen.
    Gloria and John Klingman
    Sidney, NY '68 2000 Spike

From msedlack at neo.rr.com  Thu Jul 31 14:25:52 2008
From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:25:52 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Side mirrors
References: <20080731.102634.19474.1@webmail03.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <3BC3840B245C41D9A72FAD04F7751CBC@p53ghzduo>

Greg,
One possibility:
I used a pair of Raydyot "look-alike" spun aluminum mirrors - driver's is 
flat, passenger side is convex.
These aftermarket mirrors were used on lots of sports cars in the '60s, most 
notably the AC Cobra.

They work reasonably, since they get bolted solid and don't move around - a 
helper moves the mirror around for you (sitting in the driver's seat) until 
you're happy with the angles, then snugs down the bolt/stud underneath, 
locking the mirror in position.

You can see what they look like on the "R" here,
http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/yipes_stripes.htm
and here is where I bought mine IIRC
http://tinyurl.com/5m65c8

Mark Sedlack
ZROC
Cuyahoga Falls OH
66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/




----- Original Message ----- 
From: <gregs672liter at netzero.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:26 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Side mirrors


> OK gang, I am happy to say that I think all major body work is FINALLY 
> done on
> the '67, and I may just get it in primer by Monday (yeah!).  I am looking 
> for
> new side mirrors and asking for suggestions.  I used to have "baby turbo"
> mirrors on it, which I liked but they did not work particularly well and
> tended to giggle a lot.  I'm looking for some alternatives that people 
> have
> liked (reasonably priced).  Mirrors will be on both sides.  My car as most 
> of
> you know is not stock, so I am open to just about anything that looks good 
> and
> actually works.
> Thanks!
> Greg Burrows
> 67 2000
> Bonney Lake, WA

From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Thu Jul 31 15:12:13 2008
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (Nathaniel Leeds)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:12:13 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Cross Country, have I lost my mind?
Message-ID: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOAELINMAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>

I'm planning a Colorado to California shot in the old '69 2000 and am
wondering if I've lost my mind. Everything's rebuilt and new, and we've
driven the 500 miles breaking-in period without recent major incident. And
now its time to test fate.

My preference is to take Highway 50 across the desert to stay away from the
big trucks on the 80, but I'm worried about whether running the car all-out
for 500 miles is such a smart thing to do in a part of the country where gas
stations are few and Datsun even fewer.

Had anyone done this, or similar drives in their cars. What's happened, what
breaks, and what advise to you have for someone who's probably to boneheaded
to take it?

Nathaniel Leeds
'69 2000, SU

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Thu Jul 31 15:15:52 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:15:52 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns at Carlisle, 2009
In-Reply-To: <000c01c8f34a$72403880$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>
References: <000c01c8f34a$72403880$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>
Message-ID: <002d01c8f352$9f46e330$ddd4a990$@net>

  I thought Japanese Sports Cars were featured this year at Carlisle?

Paul
Ohio

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Behalf Of John Klingman
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 4:17 PM
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns at Carlisle, 2009

Here's some good news. A friend just emailed me that in his new copy of Old
Cars Weekly is an update on Carlisle Import Kit / Replicar weekend, May
17-19,
2009. They showed a picture of Datsun owners, no cars, who were there this
year and said many more will be there next year as the Japanese sports car
will be the featured car. We were at Import Carlisle this past May, 2
roadsters were there, and heard they were planning to feature Japanese cars
in
2009, didn't want to start an idle rumor. Now you all have time make plans.
  I laughed about the picture of owners without cars as we have not had our
roadster back all summer. Well, it was laugh or cry. I just hope Spike is
ready for the Glen.
    Gloria and John Klingman
    Sidney, NY '68 2000 Spike
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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Thu Jul 31 15:31:43 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:31:43 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Cross Country, have I lost my mind?
In-Reply-To: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOAELINMAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
References: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOAELINMAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <002e01c8f354$d5287520$7f795f60$@net>

  It's been almost 11 years since Tom "Iron Bottom" Phelan drove his '69
2000 from New York, New York to Vista, California, restored it, and drove it
back to NY.  For those of you that never read his story, or just want to
reminisce, take a look at 
http://home.mchsi.com/~tomph/trip/2lmenu.html .
  I met Tom on his ride back to NY when he stopped at a friend's house here
in Ohio.  Benn calling him friend since then!

Paul
Ohio

  
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Behalf Of Nathaniel Leeds
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:12 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Cross Country, have I lost my mind?

I'm planning a Colorado to California shot in the old '69 2000 and am
wondering if I've lost my mind. Everything's rebuilt and new, and we've
driven the 500 miles breaking-in period without recent major incident. And
now its time to test fate.

My preference is to take Highway 50 across the desert to stay away from the
big trucks on the 80, but I'm worried about whether running the car all-out
for 500 miles is such a smart thing to do in a part of the country where gas
stations are few and Datsun even fewer.

Had anyone done this, or similar drives in their cars. What's happened, what
breaks, and what advise to you have for someone who's probably to boneheaded
to take it?

Nathaniel Leeds
'69 2000, SU
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From jklingman at stny.rr.com  Thu Jul 31 15:48:23 2008
From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:48:23 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns at Carlisle, 2009
References: <000c01c8f34a$72403880$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>
	<002d01c8f352$9f46e330$ddd4a990$@net>
Message-ID: <000e01c8f357$27e8ed60$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>

Not this year. They wanted the 2 roadsters to park with the MG's. It was the 
British, Volvo and lots of German. There were 2 Z's in the invitational 
show.
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To: "'John Klingman'" <jklingman at stny.rr.com>; "'datsun-roadsters: 
autox.team.net'" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:15 PM
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Datsuns at Carlisle, 2009


>  I thought Japanese Sports Cars were featured this year at Carlisle?
>
> Paul
> Ohio
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of John Klingman
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 4:17 PM
> To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns at Carlisle, 2009
>
> Here's some good news. A friend just emailed me that in his new copy of 
> Old
> Cars Weekly is an update on Carlisle Import Kit / Replicar weekend, May
> 17-19,
> 2009. They showed a picture of Datsun owners, no cars, who were there this
> year and said many more will be there next year as the Japanese sports car
> will be the featured car. We were at Import Carlisle this past May, 2
> roadsters were there, and heard they were planning to feature Japanese 
> cars
> in
> 2009, didn't want to start an idle rumor. Now you all have time make 
> plans.
>  I laughed about the picture of owners without cars as we have not had our
> roadster back all summer. Well, it was laugh or cry. I just hope Spike is
> ready for the Glen.
>    Gloria and John Klingman
>    Sidney, NY '68 2000 Spike
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From tom at datsun2000.com  Thu Jul 31 16:18:32 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:18:32 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 1968 Fuse Box
Message-ID: <BBEDIFCDCKGJDOGMACDMKEDHCBAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

I have a couple of colored diagrams on the TECH page of datsun2000.com.
Take a look and see if you find what you are looking for.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

On 7/28/2008 2:53:49 PM, John F Sandhoff (sandhoff at csus.edu) wrote:
> > I have a Datsun schematic marked for the 1968 -1970 1600 & 2000 Sports.
>
> Your diagram is too generic.
>
> '68 has 6 fuses, no side marker lights.
> '69 started the 8-fuse box
> And as I recall,
> '70 had a little extra wiring for a solenoid on the
> intake manifold that was part of the smog setup. Or maybe I'm
> nuts.
>
> Over the years there have been some very nice diagrams put together
> by some of the list members. I thought they were on the 311s site
> but at first blush didn't see them. You can pull up a '68 and a
> 69-70 diagram, though, from
> Ross' site:
> <http://www.sportsimports.ca/archive/technicaltips/images/68.gif>
> <http://www.sportsimports.ca/archive/technicaltips/images/6970.gif>
>
> I'm
> sure others will chime in with where the nifty color diagrams are.
>
> -- John
> John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA
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From tom at datsun2000.com  Thu Jul 31 16:28:23 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:28:23 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Cross Country, have I lost my mind?
In-Reply-To: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOAELINMAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <BBEDIFCDCKGJDOGMACDMOEDICBAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

Nathaniel,

Your not crazy, but you should take a few things with you "just in case".
This year Mr. Hyde, who has been very reliable, stopped cold on the freeway
exit in Medford, Oregon while heading for Shasta.  Keeping to the basics I
started looking for fuel, air, and fire.  Since I assumed air was there and
I had a timing light I checked for fire.  None.  A little messing with
closed points and I was back on the road.  I noted very quickly that my tool
set only had the small size spark plug socket.  I will carry the right size
in the future.

The Emergency List on NOWROC has a long list of suggested items to carry.
Luggage might be a luxury if you carry them all.  Many of them make sense,
so you can pick and choose if you like.  The list was created several years
ago by Calspeed when he hosted the emergency garage list.  I might suggest
copying down info on owners along your route.  You might meet a friend and
save a lot of time too.

www.nowroc.org

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Nathaniel Leeds
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 2:12 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Cross Country, have I lost my mind?


I'm planning a Colorado to California shot in the old '69 2000 and am
wondering if I've lost my mind. Everything's rebuilt and new, and we've
driven the 500 miles breaking-in period without recent major incident. And
now its time to test fate.

My preference is to take Highway 50 across the desert to stay away from the
big trucks on the 80, but I'm worried about whether running the car all-out
for 500 miles is such a smart thing to do in a part of the country where gas
stations are few and Datsun even fewer.

Had anyone done this, or similar drives in their cars. What's happened, what
breaks, and what advise to you have for someone who's probably to boneheaded
to take it?

Nathaniel Leeds
'69 2000, SU
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From tom at datsun2000.com  Thu Jul 31 16:28:50 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:28:50 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Cross Country, have I lost my mind?
In-Reply-To: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOAELINMAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <BBEDIFCDCKGJDOGMACDMAEDJCBAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

Nathaniel,

Your not crazy, but you should take a few things with you "just in case".
This year Mr. Hyde, who has been very reliable, stopped cold on the freeway
exit in Medford, Oregon while heading for Shasta.  Keeping to the basics I
started looking for fuel, air, and fire.  Since I assumed air was there and
I had a timing light I checked for fire.  None.  A little messing with
closed points and I was back on the road.  I noted very quickly that my tool
set only had the small size spark plug socket.  I will carry the right size
in the future.

The Emergency List on NOWROC has a long list of suggested items to carry.
Luggage might be a luxury if you carry them all.  Many of them make sense,
so you can pick and choose if you like.  The list was created several years
ago by Calspeed when he hosted the emergency garage list.  I might suggest
copying down info on owners along your route.  You might meet a friend and
save a lot of time too.

www.nowroc.org

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Nathaniel Leeds
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 2:12 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Cross Country, have I lost my mind?


I'm planning a Colorado to California shot in the old '69 2000 and am
wondering if I've lost my mind. Everything's rebuilt and new, and we've
driven the 500 miles breaking-in period without recent major incident. And
now its time to test fate.

My preference is to take Highway 50 across the desert to stay away from the
big trucks on the 80, but I'm worried about whether running the car all-out
for 500 miles is such a smart thing to do in a part of the country where gas
stations are few and Datsun even fewer.

Had anyone done this, or similar drives in their cars. What's happened, what
breaks, and what advise to you have for someone who's probably to boneheaded
to take it?

Nathaniel Leeds
'69 2000, SU
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From razmataz at indy.net  Thu Jul 31 16:53:54 2008
From: razmataz at indy.net (Stan Rasmussen)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:53:54 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Cross Country, have I lost my mind?
In-Reply-To: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOAELINMAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <001201c8f360$5039bbb0$f6cce004@YOURCCFEA0C05A>

Nathan,
  Mike Adams (Formerly of TDROC) and I ran a 1600 and a 2000 from
Houston to Shasta in July! Yes it was very hot, we put the tops up but
folded the sides up on top of the roof and held it together with bungees
just to have some shade. The cars ran great, the only adjustments we
made were a tweak to the carbs when we got up in the mountains.  I
pulled a small (parts) trailer behind my 2000 and could still hit 100.
I'm not sure about your 69 but my 70 has a throttle lock which gave my
foot a rest occasionally using it as a Cruise control.  The only parts
we took as a precaution were items like fan belt, water pump,
thermostat, and other small things you can change or add on the road. We
took the southern route there and the northern back, cooler is better.
Have a great trip!  BTW- my 2000 now has AC!   Stan in Indy

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[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+razmataz=indy.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Nathaniel Leeds
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:12 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Cross Country, have I lost my mind?


I'm planning a Colorado to California shot in the old '69 2000 and am
wondering if I've lost my mind. Everything's rebuilt and new, and we've
driven the 500 miles breaking-in period without recent major incident.
And now its time to test fate.

My preference is to take Highway 50 across the desert to stay away from
the big trucks on the 80, but I'm worried about whether running the car
all-out for 500 miles is such a smart thing to do in a part of the
country where gas stations are few and Datsun even fewer.

Had anyone done this, or similar drives in their cars. What's happened,
what breaks, and what advise to you have for someone who's probably to
boneheaded to take it?

Nathaniel Leeds
'69 2000, SU
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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Thu Jul 31 17:02:32 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:02:32 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Cross Country, have I lost my mind?
Message-ID: <c18.3f61cc5a.35c39e88@aol.com>

We drove from Las Vegas to Mt. Evans, Colorado, then across hwy 50 to  
Shasta, then back to Vegas. The car had about a year old rebuild on the engine,  
just a few thousand miles. These are not comfortable cars for long trips. We  
planned it so our longest day was about 300 miles. Hwy 50 may be advertised as  
the loneliest road but we had enough company that we weren't worried. Take the  
basic stuff, belt, plugs, points, a few tools and you should be good to go. 
An  AAA card and a cell phone are handy also. If you loose a water pump or 
something  post a note here and I bet someone could overnight you one.
 
keith

 
 
In a message dated 7/31/2008 2:16:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
nmleeds at mindspring.com writes:

I'm  planning a Colorado to California shot in the old '69 2000 and am
wondering  if I've lost my mind. Everything's rebuilt and new, and we've
driven the  500 miles breaking-in period without recent major incident. And
now its  time to test fate.

My preference is to take Highway 50 across the  desert to stay away from the
big trucks on the 80, but I'm worried about  whether running the car all-out
for 500 miles is such a smart thing to do  in a part of the country where gas
stations are few and Datsun even  fewer.

Had anyone done this, or similar drives in their cars. What's  happened, what
breaks, and what advise to you have for someone who's  probably to boneheaded
to take it?

Nathaniel  Leeds





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From reblues at gmail.com  Thu Jul 31 17:19:23 2008
From: reblues at gmail.com (reblues at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:19:23 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Cross Country, have I lost my mind?
References: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOAELINMAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <02e301c8f363$df7cd070$6601a8c0@ACER4230>

I have taken multiple trips from Atlanta, Ga to Az and Ca in both a 68 and 
70 2000s.  The only time I had any problems and didn't make it back was when 
I hit the elk last November.  I take the 20 and run 75-85mph except in west 
Tx where it's more like 85-95mph.  I think these cars are made for it.   A 
small cushion for lumbar adjustment helps.

Richard Brown

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nathaniel Leeds" <nmleeds at mindspring.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:12 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Cross Country, have I lost my mind?


> I'm planning a Colorado to California shot in the old '69 2000 and am
> wondering if I've lost my mind. Everything's rebuilt and new, and we've
> driven the 500 miles breaking-in period without recent major incident. And
> now its time to test fate.
>
> My preference is to take Highway 50 across the desert to stay away from 
> the
> big trucks on the 80, but I'm worried about whether running the car 
> all-out
> for 500 miles is such a smart thing to do in a part of the country where 
> gas
> stations are few and Datsun even fewer.
>
> Had anyone done this, or similar drives in their cars. What's happened, 
> what
> breaks, and what advise to you have for someone who's probably to 
> boneheaded
> to take it?
>
> Nathaniel Leeds
> '69 2000, SU

From mhknorr at msn.com  Thu Jul 31 17:58:32 2008
From: mhknorr at msn.com (Michael Knorr)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:58:32 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters] Cross Country, have I lost my mind?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.20727.1217542718.1200.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.20727.1217542718.1200.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <BAY106-W201B7C8B6B533857735700AA7C0@phx.gbl>

Three years ago, I drove my 1600 from Salt Lake City to Solvang, detouring
through Seal Beach because Mom wanted to come along to shop. That was about
1700 miles round trip. The only problem I had was a sore lower back when I
returned to Salt Lake City. The car is in excellent condition and never even
hiccupped. Keith Williams was kind enough to tune my SUs while in Solvang,
however. And I did see an MGB parked on the side of I-15 outside of Mesquite,
NV. That's one of the reasons I even dream in Japanese.

Make sure your car is in great shape, bring along a small pillow for that
lower back, and remember what Dan Rather used to say, "Courage!" A liquid
medicinal from a local liquor store at the end of the day might be welcome
also. Good luck! It'll be a fun drive.

Regard, Michael Knorr
1966 SPL311-03639> > Message: 6> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:12:13 -0700> From:
"Nathaniel Leeds" <nmleeds at mindspring.com>> Subject: [Roadsters] Cross
Country, have I lost my mind?> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>>
Message-ID: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOAELINMAA.nmleeds at mindspring.com>>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > I'm planning a Colorado to
California shot in the old '69 2000 and am> wondering if I've lost my mind.
Everything's rebuilt and new, and we've> driven the 500 miles breaking-in
period without recent major incident. And> now its time to test fate.

From haabu at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jul 31 18:34:18 2008
From: haabu at sbcglobal.net (Herb Petty)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:34:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Nathaniel Leeds.
Message-ID: <168141.14190.qm@web81803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Mr Leeds,
  Soooo,  Ya wanna take a ride to Ca.  Well ya just struck pay dirt !!
  Last June, Mike Young & I ( Herb Petty ) both Roadster nuts, from central / northern Ca
  drove to Denver, to visit the local Roadster folks.  We even got there in time to drive in the Parker Parade, with the Roadster bunch--Really a great time. The Roadster guys rolled out the Red carpet.   The weather was beautiful, & John Over ,The lord & master of WYCROC,
  the local Roadster Club really looked after us.  We drove across hwy 50, to Grand Junction, Co. We then took hwy  70 over the hill into Denver.  I drove a 1966 / with a Ka-24 motor, & Mike Young drove a finely tuned  1967.5 Solax 2000 Mike's car averaged  24-26 mpg for the whole trip, & my Ka-24 did alittle better.  I should add, that most days, we never drove under  90 mph.  I know, I know,!!  ( What a crock )  so, we took speedo foto's of both cars while driving.   In case anyone had doubts !   Anyway if you'll send me a phone #, I'll call ya this wknd, & fill you in on any questions you might have.   ( We had one Hell of a great time )
   
  Herb Petty'
  Modesto, Ca.

From chuckkyle at mac.com  Thu Jul 31 18:52:15 2008
From: chuckkyle at mac.com (Charles Kyle)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:52:15 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] What year is my car?
Message-ID: <C4B7C86F.FE48%chuckkyle@mac.com>

Hello all,

So I think my Datsun is somewhere between a 66 and a 68.  Based on the
serial number (SPL311-18896) and descriptions that I have read online, I
defiantly think the body is a 68, high windshield.  Now the engine might be
something different.  How can I tell?  The engine block number is R05076 and
the oil filter is the old canister type not the screw on, so is this a 66?

Any thoughts?

Chuck


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From ruth at earlydatsun.com  Thu Jul 31 18:53:49 2008
From: ruth at earlydatsun.com (Ruth)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:53:49 +1000
Subject: [Roadsters] Cross Country, have I lost my mind?
In-Reply-To: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOAELINMAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
References: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOAELINMAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <E59C800C-D11E-442F-929B-B3882B159212@earlydatsun.com>

Not at all!

Of all my cars, if I had to choose one to do a long trip in, the  
roadster would be it. Some examples:

My sporty was our honeymoon chariot of choice in January (hottest time  
of the year). We drove from Queensland to Tasmania, round the island,  
along the Great Ocean Road and back. Total of 7,500 km in 3 weeks.  
Nothing went wrong. Except for nearly running out of fuel, but that  
was because the petrol station closed 1/2 hour earlier than our Lonely  
Planet guide told us it would.

We bought a car from Melbourne a couple of years ago and drove back to  
Brisbane (1800km) in 3 days. Sight unseen, unregistered (we had a  
permit) and again, no issues once we put the correct amount of air in  
the tyres and they weren't reading 48-59-20-12!

Club members drove to the DSOA Nationals in South Australia from here  
in Brisbane last year - across the top end! Total of 8645 miles  
(13,832km) in 34 days. One broken wheel bearing between them, but that  
was a brand new one that had only done 2000 km. Have a look at a map  
of Australia while you read their trip report here: http://www.earlydatsun.com/roundoz.html

Just do it. Oh, and good luck!

Ruth

On 01/08/2008, at 7:12 AM, Nathaniel Leeds wrote:

> I'm planning a Colorado to California shot in the old '69 2000 and am
> wondering if I've lost my mind. Everything's rebuilt and new, and  
> we've
> driven the 500 miles breaking-in period without recent major  
> incident. And
> now its time to test fate.
>
> My preference is to take Highway 50 across the desert to stay away  
> from the
> big trucks on the 80, but I'm worried about whether running the car  
> all-out
> for 500 miles is such a smart thing to do in a part of the country  
> where gas
> stations are few and Datsun even fewer.
>
> Had anyone done this, or similar drives in their cars. What's  
> happened, what
> breaks, and what advise to you have for someone who's probably to  
> boneheaded
> to take it?
>
> Nathaniel Leeds
> '69 2000, SU
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu Jul 31 19:17:16 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:17:16 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] What year is my car?
Message-ID: <080120080117.14216.4892641C0004B228000037882200737478CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Looking at your pic, it's a '68:

<http://www.311s.org/registry/1968/spl311-18896.html>

As for the engine, the block number would make it a '66 according to the info on Rallye's site.

<http://www.datsunroadster.com/INFO_PAGES/what_year.htm#ENGINENUMBERS>

Pete

P.S. - Next time I visit Mom (Springfield), I'll try and stop by.

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Charles Kyle <chuckkyle at mac.com>
> Hello all,
> 
> So I think my Datsun is somewhere between a 66 and a 68.  Based on the
> serial number (SPL311-18896) and descriptions that I have read online, I
> defiantly think the body is a 68, high windshield.  Now the engine might be
> something different.  How can I tell?  The engine block number is R05076 and
> the oil filter is the old canister type not the screw on, so is this a 66?
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Chuck
> 
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From gregs672liter at netzero.net  Thu Jul 31 19:48:29 2008
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 01:48:29 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] Side mirrors
Message-ID: <20080731.184829.2874.0@webmail07.vgs.untd.com>

HA!  That was pretty funny... I didn't even notice!
Thanks to all for the replys... much to research!
Greg

-- Gary McCormick <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Did you have to tickle them to make them giggle, or did they do it on their
own? Did they jiggle when they giggled?

(Sorry - I couldn't help myself...)

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

"gregs672liter at netzero.net" <gregs672liter at netzero.net> wrote:<snip>I used to
have "baby turbo"
mirrors on it, which I liked but they did not work particularly well and
tended to giggle a lot.<snip>
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu Jul 31 19:56:52 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:56:52 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Cross Country, have I lost my mind?
Message-ID: <080120080156.26367.48926D64000C6C1B000066FF2200735834CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

You did? When did they build a bridge?

Pete "who visited Tasmania in '79 courtesy of the US Navy"

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Ruth <ruth at earlydatsun.com>

[snip]

 We drove from Queensland to Tasmania......

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Thu Jul 31 20:04:53 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:04:53 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Cross Country, have I lost my mind?
In-Reply-To: <E59C800C-D11E-442F-929B-B3882B159212@earlydatsun.com>
References: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOAELINMAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
	<E59C800C-D11E-442F-929B-B3882B159212@earlydatsun.com>
Message-ID: <8CAC1921F36CB4E-18B0-235B@webmail-nd13.sysops.aol.com>

? A local member , Peter Harrison drove 8000 miles, I believe it was, recently.

Linda

From wilhouse at charter.net  Thu Jul 31 20:41:19 2008
From: wilhouse at charter.net (Ken & Tammy Williams)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:41:19 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] The cross country discussion has me thinking...
Message-ID: <D593D1813D0B429C98A55E5FEDBB134C@wilhouse>

Hey guys and gals.  The current discussion about driving across the country in
a roadster brought up a question.  Maybe showing my ignorance, but here goes.
I have always been hesitant to drive my '67 1600 for too long on the
interstate.  I've done it, but at 70-ish it is turning 3500 rpm or so.  Is
that okay???  I'm a little bit of a wimp maybe??  Definitely too little of a
mechanic to know for sure.
Thanks,
Ken

From ruth at earlydatsun.com  Thu Jul 31 20:58:52 2008
From: ruth at earlydatsun.com (Ruth)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:58:52 +1000
Subject: [Roadsters] Cross Country, have I lost my mind?
In-Reply-To: <080120080156.26367.48926D64000C6C1B000066FF2200735834CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>
References: <080120080156.26367.48926D64000C6C1B000066FF2200735834CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1206B46B-00FC-429A-A30B-994F5D3DA6B7@earlydatsun.com>

Ha bloody ha! There's a boat...

A pretty rough trip, I might add. Apparently Bass Strait is one of the  
worst ferry crossings anywhere. I was asleep - A was trying to play  
pinball in the games room - very unsuccessfully!
On 01/08/2008, at 11:56 AM, Pete Peters wrote:

> You did? When did they build a bridge?
>
> Pete "who visited Tasmania in '79 courtesy of the US Navy"
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Ruth <ruth at earlydatsun.com>
>
> [snip]
>
> We drove from Queensland to Tasmania......
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From aultgc at att.net  Thu Jul 31 22:12:36 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:12:36 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Side mirrors
References: <20080731.102634.19474.1@webmail03.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <01e901c8f38c$d4b08b90$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

Greg,

I put Lucas wing mirrors (available from Moss Motors) on my '66, and am 
happy with them.  If you want a picture, let me know.

Gary Ault

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <gregs672liter at netzero.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:26 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Side mirrors


> OK gang, I am happy to say that I think all major body work is FINALLY 
> done on
> the '67, and I may just get it in primer by Monday (yeah!).  I am looking 
> for
> new side mirrors and asking for suggestions.  I used to have "baby turbo"
> mirrors on it, which I liked but they did not work particularly well and
> tended to giggle a lot.  I'm looking for some alternatives that people 
> have
> liked (reasonably priced).  Mirrors will be on both sides.  My car as most 
> of
> you know is not stock, so I am open to just about anything that looks good 
> and
> actually works.
> Thanks!
> Greg Burrows
> 67 2000
> Bonney Lake, WA
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From aultgc at att.net  Thu Jul 31 22:14:11 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:14:11 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] The cross country discussion has me thinking...
References: <D593D1813D0B429C98A55E5FEDBB134C@wilhouse>
Message-ID: <01ff01c8f38d$0d8c0e80$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

I have driven my 2000 at 4000 rpm for hours on end.  No worries.

Gary Ault

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken & Tammy Williams" <wilhouse at charter.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:41 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] The cross country discussion has me thinking...


> Hey guys and gals.  The current discussion about driving across the 
> country in
> a roadster brought up a question.  Maybe showing my ignorance, but here 
> goes.
> I have always been hesitant to drive my '67 1600 for too long on the
> interstate.  I've done it, but at 70-ish it is turning 3500 rpm or so.  Is
> that okay???  I'm a little bit of a wimp maybe??  Definitely too little of 
> a
> mechanic to know for sure.
> Thanks,
> Ken
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu Jul 31 22:46:07 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 04:46:07 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Side mirrors
Message-ID: <080120080446.23548.4892950F000105A600005BFC2207000953CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Lucas mirrors? Do they work at night? <g>

Pete "I crack myself up"

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" <aultgc at att.net>
> Greg,
> 
> I put Lucas wing mirrors (available from Moss Motors) on my '66, and am 
> happy with them.  If you want a picture, let me know.
> 
> Gary Ault
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <gregs672liter at netzero.net>
> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:26 PM
> Subject: [Roadsters] Side mirrors
> 
> 
> > OK gang, I am happy to say that I think all major body work is FINALLY 
> > done on
> > the '67, and I may just get it in primer by Monday (yeah!).  I am looking 
> > for
> > new side mirrors and asking for suggestions.  I used to have "baby turbo"
> > mirrors on it, which I liked but they did not work particularly well and
> > tended to giggle a lot.  I'm looking for some alternatives that people 
> > have
> > liked (reasonably priced).  Mirrors will be on both sides.  My car as most 
> > of
> > you know is not stock, so I am open to just about anything that looks good 
> > and
> > actually works.
> > Thanks!
> > Greg Burrows
> > 67 2000
> > Bonney Lake, WA
> > ____________________________________________________________
> > Learn about VA loan programs and benefits. Click now.
> > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4tzAqPFCNmX2HUI97al1yEjs
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu Jul 31 22:48:04 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 04:48:04 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] The cross country discussion has me thinking...
Message-ID: <080120080448.19384.48929583000F05B500004BB82200734830CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

I've heard that that's normal for a 1600 w/ the stock 4-speed tranny and 3.9 rear end. Should be fine.

Pete "looking forward to getting off jack stands"

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Ken & Tammy Williams" <wilhouse at charter.net>
> Hey guys and gals.  The current discussion about driving across the country in
> a roadster brought up a question.  Maybe showing my ignorance, but here goes.
> I have always been hesitant to drive my '67 1600 for too long on the
> interstate.  I've done it, but at 70-ish it is turning 3500 rpm or so.  Is
> that okay???  I'm a little bit of a wimp maybe??  Definitely too little of a
> mechanic to know for sure.
> Thanks,
> Ken
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