From will-mart14 at cox.net  Tue Jan  1 05:42:40 2008
From: will-mart14 at cox.net (will-mart14 at cox.net)
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 7:42:40 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Ray Glass Crash
Message-ID: <20080101074240.ZE9BW.68525.root@fed1wml02.mgt.cox.net>

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=24773512
if you can't see it try looking for it on you tube.

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Tue Jan  1 13:40:32 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 15:40:32 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 2.8l V8?
Message-ID: <000601c84cb6$95a9c830$c0fd5890$@net>

  Will it fit in a roadster?

 

http://www.h1v8.com/page/page/1562069.htm

From tminerpcav at aol.com  Tue Jan  1 14:36:39 2008
From: tminerpcav at aol.com (tminerpcav at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 16:36:39 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 2.8l V8?
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References: <000601c84cb6$95a9c830$c0fd5890$@net>
Message-ID: <8CA1AD58728FD7E-630-1C23@WEBMAIL-DC17.sysops.aol.com>

It probably will, and it's only $30K!? What are you waitin' for?



Tim








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Subject: [Roadsters] 2.8l V8?



  Will it fit in a roadster?

 

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From chalsted at comcast.net  Wed Jan  2 08:11:30 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 10:11:30 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] The new 311 Roadster!
References: <000901c84b1c$78f0e5c0$9b02a8c0@holmes>
Message-ID: <01b801c84d51$c1706f00$136fa343@craigscomputer>

Hi Brad,

they've been making those for a few years now... you could buy one of my 
project 67.5 2000's and have it profesionally restored for the price of 
admission on one of the "new" 311 roadsters...

Craig 

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Wed Jan  2 09:59:24 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:59:24 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Craig? Mail bouncing
Message-ID: <002801c84d60$d5dae1f0$8190a5d0$@net>

Craig, tried to reply and it bounced so you're still stranded in Virginia!

Sorry about hitting the list, but if you know Craig, you know there is a lot
of roadster content!

Paul
Ohio

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From tputland at charter.net  Wed Jan  2 11:14:38 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 10:14:38 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Can someone "host" something for me?
Message-ID: <20080102131438.PD5PY.402429.root@fepweb13>

Hi all. 

I don't have a web site nor do I have a site where I can post pictures--yet.

I have a series of pictures, that are automotive related, that I would like to share with you all. Can some one out there put them on their server for me? Or put them on their webshots page? 

They are in a .pdf file right now but I can put them into a word document or send them as .jpg if I can figure out how to break them out of the .pdf document.

TIA!

PEACE :-)

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From tom at datsun2000.com  Wed Jan  2 12:13:11 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:13:11 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: How fast do you have to be going to do this???
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGKEOGDDAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

Here is the file Tim Putland asked to have hosted.  I added it to my OTHER
STUFF page, where it will stay.  The link title says it all.  How fast DO
you have to be going to do this???

Thanx Tim

http://www.datsun2000.com/other_stuff/how_fast_must_you_be_going_to_do_this.
pdf

Tom
69 2000 - MR. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Wed Jan  2 12:25:17 2008
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:25:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: How fast do you have to be going to do this???
Message-ID: <123115.95445.qm@web81414.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

apparently, about 80 to 90 mph, according to the speedometer.

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To: "Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2008 11:13:11 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: How fast do you have to be going to do this???


Here is the file Tim Putland asked to have hosted.  I added it to my
 OTHER
STUFF page, where it will stay.  The link title says it all.  How fast
 DO
you have to be going to do this???

Thanx Tim

http://www.datsun2000.com/other_stuff/how_fast_must_you_be_going_to_do_this.
pdf

Tom
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From tputland at charter.net  Wed Jan  2 12:30:46 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:30:46 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: How fast do you have to be going to do this???
In-Reply-To: <123115.95445.qm@web81414.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20080102143046.6DDCD.403998.root@fepweb11>

I would hope an Audi, or any car for that matter, would not be able to be cut in half at speeds that low. 

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- steven boortz <vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com> wrote: 

=============
apparently, about 80 to 90 mph, according to the speedometer.

----- Original Message ----
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To: "Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2008 11:13:11 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: How fast do you have to be going to do this???


Here is the file Tim Putland asked to have hosted.  I added it to my
 OTHER
STUFF page, where it will stay.  The link title says it all.  How fast
 DO
you have to be going to do this???

Thanx Tim

http://www.datsun2000.com/other_stuff/how_fast_must_you_be_going_to_do_this.
pdf

Tom
69 2000 - MR. Hyde
Portland
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From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com  Wed Jan  2 12:39:45 2008
From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 13:39:45 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: How fast do you have to be going to do this???
In-Reply-To: <20080102143046.6DDCD.403998.root@fepweb11>
References: <20080102143046.6DDCD.403998.root@fepweb11>
Message-ID: <477BE881.5000803@hornesystemstx.com>

Seeing how the temp gauge is in centigrade, I would expect the 
speedometer to be in Kph, which would seem to be WAY to slow for this 
kind of damage. I don't know what country it happened in, but the 
markings on the emergency vehicle is not in English (picture 9).

They mush have been thrown out of the car, as there is no sign of blood 
on the car that I can see.


Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Tim:
> I would hope an Audi, or any car for that matter, would not be able to be cut in half at speeds that low. 
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
>
> ---- steven boortz <vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com> wrote: 
>
> =============
> apparently, about 80 to 90 mph, according to the speedometer.
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" <tom at datsun2000.com>
> To: "Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2008 11:13:11 AM
> Subject: [Roadsters] OT: How fast do you have to be going to do this???
>
>
> Here is the file Tim Putland asked to have hosted.  I added it to my
>  OTHER
> STUFF page, where it will stay.  The link title says it all.  How fast
>  DO
> you have to be going to do this???
>
> Thanx Tim
>
> http://www.datsun2000.com/other_stuff/how_fast_must_you_be_going_to_do_this.
> pdf
>
> Tom
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Wed Jan  2 12:47:48 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:47:48 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: How fast do you have to be going to do this???
In-Reply-To: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGKEOGDDAA.tom@datsun2000.com>
Message-ID: <NPEMKDINNFCDIIAIJECGMECDEOAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>

Well, the speedo says 80, and I suspect that is in kph, since the accident
appears to have happened in Europe (Euro license plates on the other
vehicles and "B.V. Esmoritz" on the side of the ambulance). That would make
it about 50 mph sideways into a tree. However, since it was going sideways
and was a ways off the road, the driver had probably lifted by that time.
Since the speedo is driven by (probably) driveshaft speed, true vehicle
speed could have been higher.

I thought at first that they had cut the vehicle apart, but on second
thought, I think not. The fact that the back half of the car impacted the
other tree hard enough to seriously dent the back end would indicate that
the car hit the first tree sideways on the passenger side with enough force
to rip the engine out of the front and to separate the rear half from the
front.

Maybe I've been watching CSI too much.

Nasty crash, in any case. If you're gonna test your limits, do it at a
track.

Gordon Glasgow
Renton, WA

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Tom @ Datsun2000
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:13 AM
To: Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: How fast do you have to be going to do this???


Here is the file Tim Putland asked to have hosted.  I added it to my OTHER
STUFF page, where it will stay.  The link title says it all.  How fast DO
you have to be going to do this???

Thanx Tim

http://www.datsun2000.com/other_stuff/how_fast_must_you_be_going_to_do_this.
pdf

Tom
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Jan  2 13:17:34 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:17:34 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Can someone "host" something for me?
Message-ID: <010220082017.9031.477BF15E000DCECB000023472200734076CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

You need to break the pics out of the pdf. Copy/paste usually works for me.

Why don' t you just open your own free account on Webshots, Photobucket, etc, or use the Photo Album section of 311s.org?

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
> Hi all. 
> 
> I don't have a web site nor do I have a site where I can post pictures--yet.
> 
> I have a series of pictures, that are automotive related, that I would like to 
> share with you all. Can some one out there put them on their server for me? Or 
> put them on their webshots page? 
> 
> They are in a .pdf file right now but I can put them into a word document or 
> send them as .jpg if I can figure out how to break them out of the .pdf 
> document.
> 
> TIA!
> 
> PEACE :-)
> 
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Jan  2 13:23:03 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:23:03 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Can someone "host" something for me?
Message-ID: <010220082023.23030.477BF2A700006E13000059F62205889116CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

...or Tom could make the PDF file available for download. <g>

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net
> You need to break the pics out of the pdf. Copy/paste usually works for me.
> 
> Why don' t you just open your own free account on Webshots, Photobucket, etc, or 
> use the Photo Album section of 311s.org?
> 
> Pete
> 
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
> > Hi all. 
> > 
> > I don't have a web site nor do I have a site where I can post pictures--yet.
> > 
> > I have a series of pictures, that are automotive related, that I would like to 
> > share with you all. Can some one out there put them on their server for me? Or 
> > put them on their webshots page? 
> > 
> > They are in a .pdf file right now but I can put them into a word document or 
> > send them as .jpg if I can figure out how to break them out of the .pdf 
> > document.
> > 
> > TIA!
> > 
> > PEACE :-)
> > 
> > Tim
> > Belleville, WI.
> > '70 SPL AND SRL
> > Still clueless but always learning
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Wed Jan  2 13:50:55 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 12:50:55 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: How fast do you have to be going to do this???
In-Reply-To: <2144155708-1199306098-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1777835506-@bxe002.bisx.produk.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <NPEMKDINNFCDIIAIJECGIECFEOAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>

No matter how good the car is, there's always some combination of
circumstances that will do it in.

I've always figured the best defense is a good offense. The best way to
survive a wreck is to avoid being involved in one. So I try to be constantly
aware of everything that is going on around me (front AND rear) in a
predictive way. I'm looking at car behavior, not just position, and if I see
someone who is driving erratically or making sudden moves, I give them more
attention as I get near them.

In addition to that, having a highly responsive car helps when you do have
to "go aggressive" to avoid some situation. It's like jumping out of the way
of something when you're walking - you don't just stand there. God put that
gas pedal there for a reason.

Granted, things can still get you out of the blue, but being aggressively
proactive is the best way to minimize that possibility.

An example of clueless driving was the footage they had on the news the
other night of some dummy having his Subaru WRX pulled out of a snow-filled
ditch on one of the local passes here the other day. I couldn't figure out
how in the world he could have ditched a Subie until he said he was on
cruise control! DUH!

Gordon

-----Original Message-----
From: robbeddington at aol.com [mailto:robbeddington at aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:35 PM
To: Gordon Glasgow; Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: How fast do you have to be going to do
this???


A few years ago I witnessed a nearly new Peugeot 205 GTI break in half after
hitting the car in front of me (my bosses car!).  The impact was about 50
mph max. It was a sight I won't forget.

Having checked that my boss and another colleague were OK I headed off down
the bank to see both halves of the 205 about 20 feet apart.  Fearing the
worst and not knowing how many injured people/bodies I might find, I was
amazed to find just one guy sat on the bank about 30 feet further on. He
must have been thrown clear and somersaulted down the bank.  He was dazed
but had no visible injuries.

OK the Peugeot was a small car but I laid odds that it was 2 wrecks welded
together. After the car had been examined, the police I gave a statement to
said not.

The guy was convicted of dangerous driving.  He was within the 60mph speed
limit - but was on the wrong side of the road...

The 205 was my wife's favourite car. From then on I didn't allow her to buy
one!

The worry was that all cars go through rigorous euro safety tests. No manner
of testing accounted for this freak impact.

Rob

From bradlustig at earthlink.net  Wed Jan  2 14:03:16 2008
From: bradlustig at earthlink.net (Brad Lustig)
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:03:16 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: How fast do you have to be going to do this???
In-Reply-To: <NPEMKDINNFCDIIAIJECGIECFEOAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>
References: <NPEMKDINNFCDIIAIJECGIECFEOAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <477BFC14.3090801@earthlink.net>

The indicated speed on the speedo was probably the speed the tires were 
turning at the time of impact.  If the car was sliding sideways, then 
the indicated speed had probably dropped considerably, but forward 
momentum was still pretty high, especially if the driver had slammed on 
brakes.
Brad

From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com  Wed Jan  2 14:12:40 2008
From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 15:12:40 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: How fast do you have to be going to do this???
In-Reply-To: <477BFC14.3090801@earthlink.net>
References: <NPEMKDINNFCDIIAIJECGIECFEOAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>
	<477BFC14.3090801@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <477BFE48.1090803@hornesystemstx.com>

Esmoriz is an island off the coast of and belonging to Portugal.

Peace,
Pat


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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Jan  2 14:15:02 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:15:02 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: How fast do you have to be going to do this???
Message-ID: <010220082115.13770.477BFED600026A73000035CA2213575333CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Years of motorcycling taught me that a) I am invisible, and b) Everyone is trying to kill me. 

I wish everyone was required to ride a motorcycle for a year or two before being allowed to drive a car. The ones that survive will be the ones that learn defensive driving! <g>

Yeah, yeah, wishful thinking. Next I'll be wanting honest politicians concerned about doing what's best for the country.....

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
> No matter how good the car is, there's always some combination of
> circumstances that will do it in.
> 
> I've always figured the best defense is a good offense. The best way to
> survive a wreck is to avoid being involved in one. So I try to be constantly
> aware of everything that is going on around me (front AND rear) in a
> predictive way. I'm looking at car behavior, not just position, and if I see
> someone who is driving erratically or making sudden moves, I give them more
> attention as I get near them.

[snip]

From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com  Wed Jan  2 15:06:42 2008
From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison)
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 14:06:42 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: How fast do you have to be going to do this???
In-Reply-To: <010220082115.13770.477BFED600026A73000035CA2213575333CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <C3A14AF2.5A51%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>

The best "driving" class I ever took was a state sponsored motorcycle safety
course.

And the best riding tip was: Assume that no one sees you!

Regards,
Greg
SRL31100494



On 1/2/08 1:15 PM, "ppeters914 at comcast.net" <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Years of motorcycling taught me that a) I am invisible, and b) Everyone is
> trying to kill me.
> 
> I wish everyone was required to ride a motorcycle for a year or two before
> being allowed to drive a car. The ones that survive will be the ones that
> learn defensive driving! <g>
> 
> Yeah, yeah, wishful thinking. Next I'll be wanting honest politicians
> concerned about doing what's best for the country.....
> 
> Pete
> 
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
>> No matter how good the car is, there's always some combination of
>> circumstances that will do it in.
>> 
>> I've always figured the best defense is a good offense. The best way to
>> survive a wreck is to avoid being involved in one. So I try to be constantly
>> aware of everything that is going on around me (front AND rear) in a
>> predictive way. I'm looking at car behavior, not just position, and if I see
>> someone who is driving erratically or making sudden moves, I give them more
>> attention as I get near them.
> 
> [snip]
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From tputland at charter.net  Wed Jan  2 15:23:07 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 14:23:07 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Paint stripping
Message-ID: <20080102172307.MJBQ7.414355.root@fepweb11>

Hi all. 

Very soon I will be starting the paint and primer removal process on my replacement quarter panels as the first step to getting the panels ready for the car. 

I looked at 311.org and got a little info and I am sure I will find more once I narrow my search.

What have any and all of you done to remove paint and original primer (from NOS pieces)? I was just reading about soda blasting as an option. Any thoughts or experience with this process out there?

Other thoughts?

TIA

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From James at jdfogg.com  Wed Jan  2 15:41:39 2008
From: James at jdfogg.com (James Fogg)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 17:41:39 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Paint stripping
Message-ID: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A2571EA@sbs.jdfogg.com>

> Very soon I will be starting the paint and primer removal process on
my
> replacement quarter panels as the first step to getting the panels
ready
> for the car.
>
> I looked at 311.org and got a little info and I am sure I will find
more
> once I narrow my search.
>
> What have any and all of you done to remove paint and original primer
> (from NOS pieces)? I was just reading about soda blasting as an
option.
> Any thoughts or experience with this process out there?
>
> Other thoughts?


You might try a chemical stripper first. In the 1980's I sometimes used
DOT3 brake fluid. I suspect the paint I was stripping was lacquer though
(or not, brake fluid on paint is a huge problem in any type of paint).
Model car and train builders have been using DOT3 as a paint stripper
for years.

If you use brake fluid, a religious cleansing is suggested to prevent
future paint failure.

Brake fluid will aggressively suck all moisture from your skin, so use
gloves.

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Wed Jan  2 16:51:11 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 18:51:11 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 2.8l V8?
In-Reply-To: <000601c84cb6$95a9c830$c0fd5890$@net>
Message-ID: <002001c84d9a$5b2f54b0$6600a8c0@chrissy>

For $30,000 I can make ANY engine fit  :)   That does look cool though. IMHO
For  about 60-80 pounds more engine weight, same horse power and $20.000
less  you could do a Rover V8 twice the displacment T5 trans and more usable
powerband.  Almost fits without modifying the frame, I'm still working out
the details.  Cool part is you can lift the bare block and drop it into the
frame by hand.


Dave Brisco
ECR

Subject: [Roadsters] 2.8l V8?


  Will it fit in a roadster?



http://www.h1v8.com/page/page/1562069.htm

From graemes at internode.on.net  Wed Jan  2 16:58:29 2008
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 10:28:29 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] 2.8l V8?
In-Reply-To: <002001c84d9a$5b2f54b0$6600a8c0@chrissy>
References: <000601c84cb6$95a9c830$c0fd5890$@net>
	<002001c84d9a$5b2f54b0$6600a8c0@chrissy>
Message-ID: <001201c84d9b$6173d570$426fa8c0@desktop>

Don't you love alloy engine blocks??
I put an SR20 engine in for machining some years ago and delivered the block
to the counter person by hand.
Hehehehehe, first and only time I have been able to do THAT! 

"Cool part is you can lift the bare block and drop it into the frame by
hand".

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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Wed Jan  2 17:04:14 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 19:04:14 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: How fast do you have to be going to do this???
In-Reply-To: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGKEOGDDAA.tom@datsun2000.com>
Message-ID: <002201c84d9c$2df866b0$6600a8c0@chrissy>

According to the speedometer in the photo, 90MPH when the gauge froze.  I'm
guessing that was just before the car got airborn, pass door first into the
middle tree. Funny, the left taillight survived, and there is no license
plate.

Oh, Link didn't work, try this
http://www.datsun2000.com/other_stuff/how_fast_must_you_be_going_to_do_this.
pdf







Here is the file Tim Putland asked to have hosted.  I added it to my OTHER
STUFF page, where it will stay.  The link title says it all.  How fast DO
you have to be going to do this???

Thanx Tim

Tom
69 2000 - MR. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

From escanlon at wa-net.com  Wed Jan  2 17:24:57 2008
From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 16:24:57 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Paint stripping
References: <20080102172307.MJBQ7.414355.root@fepweb11>
Message-ID: <005c01c84d9f$129591b0$0300a8c0@HPW>

Nissanman on 311s.org posted a very interesting article regarding Soda 
Blasting cars and the problems that ensue with paint adhesion.  In very 
brief summary: you must very carefully neutralize the residue or paint will 
literally peel off.  Soda's claim to fame comes from it's ability to not 
warp panels due to abrasion heat and not requiring excessively high 
pressures to achieve paint removal.  I've not used it so do your own 
research before jumping onto it.  The gist of the article Nissanman posed 
was that it was NOT as much of a blessing as it appears to be.

While you also have to be careful, in many respects good old Aircraft 
Stripper (that's it's product name) which is in the long run cheaper than 
the JASCO Paint Stripper, although either one will work, will do the job 
well, and thoroughly.  You may have to re-apply it and ANY bondo or filler 
(red cap, primer, fiberglass, etc.) will be rendered contaminated and 
unuseable.  Simply put, this is to STRIP to the metal...as that's the only 
thing Stripper will not attack.  Biggest drawback...chemical burns, and 
bluntly, potentially hazardous waste.  However, it generally does become 
inert with water, problem is that you should not just let the water runoff 
go unchecked.  (There, I've said my piece, you do as you choose and I'll let 
the tree huggers and Agent Orange lovers battle it out in their own post.)

Personally, I've used a combination of Stripper, Sand-Blaster (generates a 
lot of dust, but debris is generally sweepable with a broom), and 3M Roloc 
Abrasive Discs and Wheels (Fingers) to remove paint AND rust.

FWIW
E

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim"

> Hi all.
>
> Very soon I will be starting the paint and primer removal process on my 
> replacement quarter panels as the first step to getting the panels ready 
> for the car.
>
> I looked at 311.org and got a little info and I am sure I will find more 
> once I narrow my search.
>
> What have any and all of you done to remove paint and original primer 
> (from NOS pieces)? I was just reading about soda blasting as an option. 
> Any thoughts or experience with this process out there?
>
> Other thoughts?
>
> TIA
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning 

From kendelmccarley at cox.net  Wed Jan  2 20:18:02 2008
From: kendelmccarley at cox.net (kendelmccarley at cox.net)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 19:18:02 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Paint stripping
In-Reply-To: <005c01c84d9f$129591b0$0300a8c0@HPW>
Message-ID: <20080102221802.ZC4YN.6971.root@fed1wml18>

Every time I have blasting done, it's been a pain in the ass to get all the particles out of the crevices.  You never get all the debris and end up either painting over it or having it blow out onto your paint job when the sprayer hits it.  Plus, blasting leaves a texture on the panels that I then have to sand down before primer.

I've settled on Aircraft Stripper and 3M RoLocs.  Blasting is for hunky parts that are going to get powder coated.


---- E Scanlon <escanlon at wa-net.com> wrote: 

=============
Nissanman on 311s.org posted a very interesting article regarding Soda 
Blasting cars and the problems that ensue with paint adhesion.  In very 
brief summary: you must very carefully neutralize the residue or paint will 
literally peel off.  Soda's claim to fame comes from it's ability to not 
warp panels due to abrasion heat and not requiring excessively high 
pressures to achieve paint removal.  I've not used it so do your own 
research before jumping onto it.  The gist of the article Nissanman posed 
was that it was NOT as much of a blessing as it appears to be.

While you also have to be careful, in many respects good old Aircraft 
Stripper (that's it's product name) which is in the long run cheaper than 
the JASCO Paint Stripper, although either one will work, will do the job 
well, and thoroughly.  You may have to re-apply it and ANY bondo or filler 
(red cap, primer, fiberglass, etc.) will be rendered contaminated and 
unuseable.  Simply put, this is to STRIP to the metal...as that's the only 
thing Stripper will not attack.  Biggest drawback...chemical burns, and 
bluntly, potentially hazardous waste.  However, it generally does become 
inert with water, problem is that you should not just let the water runoff 
go unchecked.  (There, I've said my piece, you do as you choose and I'll let 
the tree huggers and Agent Orange lovers battle it out in their own post.)

Personally, I've used a combination of Stripper, Sand-Blaster (generates a 
lot of dust, but debris is generally sweepable with a broom), and 3M Roloc 
Abrasive Discs and Wheels (Fingers) to remove paint AND rust.

FWIW
E

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim"

> Hi all.
>
> Very soon I will be starting the paint and primer removal process on my 
> replacement quarter panels as the first step to getting the panels ready 
> for the car.
>
> I looked at 311.org and got a little info and I am sure I will find more 
> once I narrow my search.
>
> What have any and all of you done to remove paint and original primer 
> (from NOS pieces)? I was just reading about soda blasting as an option. 
> Any thoughts or experience with this process out there?
>
> Other thoughts?
>
> TIA
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning 
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Jan  2 20:20:59 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 19:20:59 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Paint stripping
In-Reply-To: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A2571EA@sbs.jdfogg.com>
Message-ID: <003301c84db7$ac8ffa90$6501a8c0@xp>

...and they gotta be good gloves. The cheapies (Costco, drugstore, etc) are
great for keeping the grease 'n' oil off, but dissolve in gas and/or DOT3/4
brake fluid.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of James Fogg
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 2:42 PM
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Paint stripping


You might try a chemical stripper first. In the 1980's I sometimes used DOT3
brake fluid. I suspect the paint I was stripping was lacquer though (or not,
brake fluid on paint is a huge problem in any type of paint). Model car and
train builders have been using DOT3 as a paint stripper for years.

If you use brake fluid, a religious cleansing is suggested to prevent future
paint failure.

Brake fluid will aggressively suck all moisture from your skin, so use
gloves.



-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 2:23 PM
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Paint stripping


Hi all.

Very soon I will be starting the paint and primer removal process on my
replacement quarter panels as the first step to getting the panels ready for
the car.

I looked at 311.org and got a little info and I am sure I will find more
once I narrow my search.

What have any and all of you done to remove paint and original primer (from
NOS pieces)? I was just reading about soda blasting as an option. Any
thoughts or experience with this process out there?

Other thoughts?

TIA

Tim

From graemes at internode.on.net  Wed Jan  2 20:38:59 2008
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 14:08:59 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] Paint stripping
In-Reply-To: <20080102221802.ZC4YN.6971.root@fed1wml18>
References: <005c01c84d9f$129591b0$0300a8c0@HPW>
	<20080102221802.ZC4YN.6971.root@fed1wml18>
Message-ID: <002201c84dba$2f5c67e0$426fa8c0@desktop>

"Every time I have blasting done, it's been a pain in the ass to get all the
particles out of the crevices.  You never get all the debris and end up
either painting over it or having it blow out onto your paint job when the
sprayer hits it." 

Go over the whole area with a fine nozzle air gun using medium to high
pressure and use a stiff paint brush in all the cracks and crevices to free
up trapped debris. Follow up with a good vacuuming again with the
paintbrush.
Use goggles and a respirator. What doesn't come out then deserves to stay
there!
 
"Plus, blasting leaves a texture on the panels that I then have to sand down
before primer".

The etch primer should love that texture!

"I've settled on Aircraft Stripper and 3M RoLocs.  Blasting is for hunky
parts that are going to get powder coated.

I agree, but the media blasting gets where the stripper and wheels can't. 
The 3M poduct in Oz is called Clean'n'Strip wheels
I recommend a combination of these methods [excluding Soda!!], if you are
determined to get ALL areas back to BARE METAL.
 
Now, about Soda Blasting.
EXCELLENT for CLEANING and STRIPPING!!
NOT SUITABLE IF YOU WANT TO RE-PAINT THE ITEM!!
=============
Nissanman on 311s.org posted a very interesting article regarding Soda
Blasting cars and the problems that ensue with paint adhesion.  In very
brief summary: you must very carefully neutralize the residue or paint will
literally peel off.  Soda's claim to fame comes from it's ability to not
warp panels due to abrasion heat and not requiring excessively high
pressures to achieve paint removal.  I've not used it so do your own
research before jumping onto it.  The gist of the article Nissanman posed
was that it was NOT as much of a blessing as it appears to be.


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From markmiller at threeboysfarm.com  Wed Jan  2 22:12:24 2008
From: markmiller at threeboysfarm.com (Mark Miller)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 21:12:24 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Tall Windshield Factory Hardtop
Message-ID: <00de01c84dc7$3a4dff80$6400a8c0@OFFICEPC>

-----Original Message-----
From: The Millers [mailto:themillers at threeboysfarm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 9:19 PM
To: 'datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net'
Subject: RE: Tall Windshield Factory Hardtop

Leading apology: I sent this (to the wrong address and from the wrong
address) and it bounced so am trying it again.  If it shows up twice (or
more): sorry.

Eric A. Isaacson wrote:
<<<After searching through 10+ years of Roadster list emails, one may only
conclude that the Factory Hardtops are extremely rare and nearly impossible
to obtain.  Nevertheless, I'd like to buy one.  It also appears that there
have been some effort to reproduce the Factory Hardtops as well.  A
reproduction in the factory style would be fantastic.  What is the latest
hardtop news...anyone?
>>>
I have a factory hardtop originally from Japan on my 69 2000.  If there is a
serious effort to remanufacture this top please contact me if
measuring/using it as a mold would help.

Mark Miller
69 RHD 2000
Sebastopol, Ca

From tom at datsun2000.com  Wed Jan  2 22:27:52 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 21:27:52 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Can someone "host" something for me?
In-Reply-To: <010220082023.23030.477BF2A700006E13000059F62205889116CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BBEDIFCDCKGJDOGMACDMIEOKCAAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

I would be happy to pull the pictures out of the PDF file and make them part
of a web page similar to what I did with the cougar and "squirrel" pictures.
It is easy to make a web site with thumbnails that you could use to download
what interests you.

As to downloading the PDF file, just RIGHT CLICK on the link and save the
link somewhere.  It will download the file folder of choice in your
computer.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
72 SC400 - Dr. Jeckle
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of ppeters914 at comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:23 PM
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Can someone "host" something for me?


...or Tom could make the PDF file available for download. <g>

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net
> You need to break the pics out of the pdf. Copy/paste usually works for
me.
>
> Why don' t you just open your own free account on Webshots, Photobucket,
etc, or
> use the Photo Album section of 311s.org?
>
> Pete
>
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
> > Hi all.
> >
> > I don't have a web site nor do I have a site where I can post
pictures--yet.
> >
> > I have a series of pictures, that are automotive related, that I would
like to
> > share with you all. Can some one out there put them on their server for
me? Or
> > put them on their webshots page?
> >
> > They are in a .pdf file right now but I can put them into a word
document or
> > send them as .jpg if I can figure out how to break them out of the .pdf
> > document.
> >
> > TIA!
> >
> > PEACE :-)
> >
> > Tim
> > Belleville, WI.
> > '70 SPL AND SRL
> > Still clueless but always learning
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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Wed Jan  2 23:04:58 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 01:04:58 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Paint stripping
In-Reply-To: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A2571EA@sbs.jdfogg.com>
Message-ID: <001c01c84dce$923b9840$6600a8c0@chrissy>

That's Brilliant!  It takes the bad trait of brake fluid  and puts it to
good use. You mentioned model builders, do you know if it's plastic or vinyl
safe?

-----Original Message-----
From: James Fogg [mailto:James at jdfogg.com]



You might try a chemical stripper first. In the 1980's I sometimes used DOT3
brake fluid. I suspect the paint I was stripping was lacquer though (or not,
brake fluid on paint is a huge problem in any type of paint). Model car and
train builders have been using DOT3 as a paint stripper for years.

If you use brake fluid, a religious cleansing is suggested to prevent future
paint failure.

Brake fluid will aggressively suck all moisture from your skin, so use
gloves.

From chalsted at comcast.net  Wed Jan  2 23:09:48 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 01:09:48 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 2.8l V8?
References: <002001c84d9a$5b2f54b0$6600a8c0@chrissy>
Message-ID: <000a01c84dcf$3f353600$136fa343@craigscomputer>

I have a frame that's been modified to fit a 215 available, might even 
consider selling the stroker 215 I have- should be good for about 300hp..... 
;-)

Craig 

From James at jdfogg.com  Thu Jan  3 00:10:16 2008
From: James at jdfogg.com (James Fogg)
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 02:10:16 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Paint stripping
Message-ID: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A2571ED@sbs.jdfogg.com>

> That's Brilliant!  It takes the bad trait of brake fluid  and puts it
to
> good use. You mentioned model builders, do you know if it's plastic or
> vinyl
> safe?

I know it's used extensively with styrene models (the usual plastic for
nearly all auto and train models). I don't know about its vinyl
appetites. It would, of course, be safe around rubber and other
compounds used in brake lines (nitryl/butyl or some such flexible
tubing).

The only complaint with styrene is a slight white haze that remains in
crevices, and a dullness of the formerly shiny styrene surface. This
does make for an excellent surface for repainting styrene though. If
your goal is an unpainted model you are probably at a loss with any type
of stripper. I also don't expect clear plastic (windshields/windows) to
survive without a haze. They'll have to be removed first.

From leehinger at verizon.net  Thu Jan  3 05:48:08 2008
From: leehinger at verizon.net (leehinger at verizon.net)
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 06:48:08 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Paint stripping
Message-ID: <1778697.2354161199364488548.JavaMail.root@vms071.mailsrvcs.net>

In Ft Wayne IN there is a business called Pro Strip that sprays a chemical (not sure what) on parts a s large as a differential and bakes them - all rust & paint gone - ready for etching primer. NO stripper residue to worry about....  I sent my fenders & hood in & rpayed etching primer... 

Pro Strip is listed under automobile reconditioning.

We took a 240Z unibody on a jig to them - they blasted the outside with soda - real smooth metal finsh & the inside with steel shot - more coarse metal finish.  A bit of running the shop vac in spots & minor prep & ready to spray the etching primer.
Lee Ehinger
Ft Wayne IN
67 rdstrs & 70 240Z
7 degrees & the Datsuns securely in the heated garage...

>From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
>Date: 2008/01/02 Wed PM 04:23:07 CST
>To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Roadsters] Paint stripping

>Hi all. 
>
>Very soon I will be starting the paint and primer removal process on my replacement quarter panels as the first step to getting the panels ready for the car. 
>
>I looked at 311.org and got a little info and I am sure I will find more once I narrow my search.
>
>What have any and all of you done to remove paint and original primer (from NOS pieces)? I was just reading about soda blasting as an option. Any thoughts or experience with this process out there?
>
>Other thoughts?
>
>TIA
>
>Tim
>Belleville, WI.
>'70 SPL AND SRL
>Still clueless but always learning

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan  3 10:01:34 2008
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 11:01:34 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Paint stripping
References: <1778697.2354161199364488548.JavaMail.root@vms071.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <001201c84e2a$4eeb1000$800101df@garage.local>

someone liked these people http://www.evaporust.com/evaporust.html

i was looking at them but have not yet ordered anything.

there is a company here in north texas that has a wonderful totally organic 
paint and rust removal system (actually two processes) that did a car for 
me.  it totally removes the rust without damaging the metal but leaves no 
residue, etc.  but they don't sell their chemicals for home use.  i'm 
thinking that these people (evaporust) might have hit on the same sort of 
chemical so i was going to try them.

nfi etc 

From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com  Wed Jan  2 15:32:31 2008
From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:32:31 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] screws  non-ISO
In-Reply-To: <d55.1e05998a.349d6001@aol.com>
References: <d55.1e05998a.349d6001@aol.com>
Message-ID: <477C10FF.4020507@hornesystemstx.com>

Google shows a fair number of Bugatti dealers, Chicago and San Diego 
come to mind. Further reading shows that Bugatti is a wholly owned 
subsidiary of Volkswagen AG, so older parts may be next to impossible to 
find.

Good luck and please let us know if you find some screws, I could use a 
few dozen if the price is not too high!

Peace,
Pat

 Thusly spake Keith0alan at aol.com:
> In a message dated 12/20/2007 11:38:44 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
> roundrocktom at yahoo.com writes:
>
> Threads  are common in FRANCE! :)  So just pop over to the local Buggati  
> Dealer
> to pick some up. (I really wish I was kidding, but I'm  not).
>
>
>
>
> That's great, I didn't think anyone made them any more. I'll have to see if  
> I can round up a Buggati dealer.
>  
> keith
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From larrybraddock at ca.rr.com  Thu Jan  3 13:30:02 2008
From: larrybraddock at ca.rr.com (Larry  Braddock)
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:30:02 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] paint stripping
Message-ID: <000801c84e47$6b8c4ae0$36b4ab4c@owner4d7e0adce>

I had a shop in Portland OR a few years back, and next door was a shop that
would strip paint off old car bodies by putting them in a big oven and burning
the paint off. I never really checked it out in detail so I can't vouch for
the process as to warpage etc, but I do know they came out totally clean.

Larry Braddock
69 2000
66 1600

From tputland at charter.net  Thu Jan  3 13:45:17 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:45:17 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] screws  non-ISO
In-Reply-To: <477C10FF.4020507@hornesystemstx.com>
Message-ID: <20080103154518.5ZGEG.473179.root@fepweb07>

I would buy some as well. Especially (to help out) if there was a minimum needed to be purchased to get an order placed.

Yes, please let us know.

PEACE :-)

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- Pat Horne <roadsters at hornesystemstx.com> wrote: 

=============
Google shows a fair number of Bugatti dealers, Chicago and San Diego 
come to mind. Further reading shows that Bugatti is a wholly owned 
subsidiary of Volkswagen AG, so older parts may be next to impossible to 
find.

Good luck and please let us know if you find some screws, I could use a 
few dozen if the price is not too high!

Peace,
Pat

 Thusly spake Keith0alan at aol.com:
> In a message dated 12/20/2007 11:38:44 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
> roundrocktom at yahoo.com writes:
>
> Threads  are common in FRANCE! :)  So just pop over to the local Buggati  
> Dealer
> to pick some up. (I really wish I was kidding, but I'm  not).
>
>
>
>
> That's great, I didn't think anyone made them any more. I'll have to see if  
> I can round up a Buggati dealer.
>  
> keith
>
>
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From andycost at embarqmail.com  Thu Jan  3 16:14:38 2008
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (andycost at embarqmail.com)
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 18:14:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Paint stripping
In-Reply-To: <001201c84e2a$4eeb1000$800101df@garage.local>
Message-ID: <12085501.4868501199402078744.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>

That company is Metal Rehab.  They used to be my race car sponsor.  You can drink the stuff they use to strip the cars but I wouldn't suggest it.  I had my race car stripped there, engine block, wheels, head, etc...  They are top notch.  The metal will come out cleaner than new.  They spray a water soluable rust inhibitor on the parts.  It will hold them for a couple of weeks.  When you are ready to apply primer you just wash off the rust inhibitor.  They are now in Arlington, TX and can be found here: www.metalrehab.com
They also have a nifty fluidized bed which is a giant sand box that has natural gas and compressed air injected and set ablaze.  The sand insulates the parts from the heat of the fire and scours the parts.  It works really well for items like paint hooks from assembly lines.  Parts like suspension arms, axle housings, springs, wheels, and other hard to clean parts do well in the fluidized bed.  It was neat going over there because you never knew what was going to be in the shop.  They might be stripping a jag nose, nuclear submarine fittings, antique pedal cars, iron fence sections, Datsun Roadster race cars, or any myriad of hot rod.  Check them out.

Andy 



----- Original Message -----
From: "Oliver" <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:01:34 AM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Paint stripping

someone liked these people http://www.evaporust.com/evaporust.html

i was looking at them but have not yet ordered anything.

there is a company here in north texas that has a wonderful totally organic 
paint and rust removal system (actually two processes) that did a car for 
me.  it totally removes the rust without damaging the metal but leaves no 
residue, etc.  but they don't sell their chemicals for home use.  i'm 
thinking that these people (evaporust) might have hit on the same sort of 
chemical so i was going to try them.

nfi etc 

From Fairlady at putermail.net  Fri Jan  4 08:00:04 2008
From: Fairlady at putermail.net (Chas Willis)
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 10:00:04 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Test
Message-ID: <000a01c84ee2$7d956fa0$78c04ee0$@net>


From Keith0alan at aol.com  Fri Jan  4 07:56:52 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 09:56:52 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] screws  non-ISO
Message-ID: <cf6.2586231b.34afa334@aol.com>

In a message dated 1/3/2008 1:00:15 PM Pacific Standard Time,  
tputland at charter.net writes:

I would  buy some as well. Especially (to help out) if there was a minimum 
needed to be  purchased to get an order placed.

Yes, please let us know.

PEACE  :-)

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but  always learning



Check ebay. Looks like someone is selling correct pitch 5x.75 stainless  
screws. I purchased some of his old offering that turned out to be the wrong  
size. Contacted him and it looks like he has been responsive to our needs. I'll  
get some and see how they look. 
 
keith "the slow carb guy" williams



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From Fairlady at putermail.net  Fri Jan  4 09:02:56 2008
From: Fairlady at putermail.net (Chas Willis)
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 11:02:56 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Question about Steering wheel lock
Message-ID: <000f01c84eeb$45a06600$d0e13200$@net>

I have a 68 2000, the keys are stuck in the ignition the ignition will not
turn and the steering wheel is locked. 

I looked at removing the ignition and the locking mechanisms from the column
but there are two odd type studs in the case that look as if they

are meant to protect the mechanism from being removed by a thief. 

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Chas

From datdave at shaw.ca  Fri Jan  4 10:50:32 2008
From: datdave at shaw.ca (David Brooker)
Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 11:50:32 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] odd ball hardware
Message-ID: <4728A76C-EDCB-4EAA-9485-1279C388C45B@shaw.ca>

   For Whitworth and other bits and pieces, Try British Tools and  
Hardware. They have a pretty good site with some tech. info on  
determining thread types etc. Dave Brooker . Winnipeg, Canada.

From BARTERDUDE at aol.com  Fri Jan  4 10:57:11 2008
From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 12:57:11 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] 1500 Fairlady enthusiast needed
Message-ID: <bb8.1be04d85.34afcd77@aol.com>

I have hit the wall with too many projects (personal and business) and have  
decided I need to consolidate things so I am offering TWO for the price of  
one.  Two FAIRLADY roadsters (yes the original 1500's).
 
1963 SPL310-3-00161C and 1964 SPL310-01289.  The '63 is stamped as a  '64, 
but is the 86th one produced in '63, and one of the earliest Fairlady  roadsters 
around that is restorable.  The Roadster Registry has only 12  '63's showing, 
this is one of the rarest / earliest in the  world.  
 
I bought the '64 as parts car to have the missing items such as the  trim 
molding, the rear third seat, spare motor, bumpers and  more.  I have acquired an 
original single side draft manifold/carb which as  I understand, there were 
only 300 production single carb models made and many  (such as this car) was 
converted to dual carbs (see the dash plate).   Single Carb model HP rating is 
77 HP and duals show as 85 for the 1500.   This manifold is truly rare too.
 
If you know anyone who is into Fairlady's anywhere in the  world, I want to 
find a home that will bring back to original state  similar to my other single 
carb '63 that I have had for 20 plus years.
 
I will talk price once I have found a true enthusiast.  To view both  cars, 
go to _http://www.wycroc.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org) , click on  THE GANG, and 
scroll  down to GARY LASATER.  Click and scroll down  past the yellow '69 
2000.  
 
Please forward this to anyone you might know who has interest.  Thanks  for 
helping keep the true grandfather of the 1600 and 2000 alive and showing up  on 
the road and putting the other Euro-roadsters (MG's, Austins, Triumphs) in  
their place (behind - way behind).
 
Gary Lasater  - Parker CO
founding  member _www.wycroc.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 
1963  SPL310-300161C
1963 SPL310-300289B
1964 SPL310-01289
1970  SRL311-12536
1970 SPL311-28169



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From boakes at gmail.com  Fri Jan  4 11:07:35 2008
From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes)
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 12:07:35 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] hard top
Message-ID: <3ad057d60801041007y17ca610y3e9010cb367aaa9@mail.gmail.com>

Wasn't someone looking for a hardtop?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130187159150&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:MOTORS:1123

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Fri Jan  4 11:32:03 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 13:32:03 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] hard top
In-Reply-To: <3ad057d60801041007y17ca610y3e9010cb367aaa9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3ad057d60801041007y17ca610y3e9010cb367aaa9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c84f00$1c2b4050$5481c0f0$@net>

  Not a factory hard top.  We shipped a late model hardtop from Ohio to
Florida a few years back.  The crate weight more than the top and it was
costly.

Paul
Ohio

-----Original Message-----

Wasn't someone looking for a hardtop?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130187159150&s
sPageName=ADME:B:EF:MOTORS:1123

From conner_a at comcast.net  Fri Jan  4 11:38:51 2008
From: conner_a at comcast.net (conner_a at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 18:38:51 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] screws  non-ISO
Message-ID: <010420081838.13168.477E7D3B0009AE750000337022007614380EA19D0A0202010C@comcast.net>

I have actually ordered this guy's carb screw-pack on ebay as well.  Should arrive any day now, I specified my car is a 68 so we'll see if the dome screws actually fit.  

Andy Conner
SRL 311-01633

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: Keith0alan at aol.com 

> In a message dated 1/3/2008 1:00:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
> tputland at charter.net writes: 
> 
> I would buy some as well. Especially (to help out) if there was a minimum 
> needed to be purchased to get an order placed. 
> 
> Yes, please let us know. 
> 
> PEACE :-) 
> 
> Tim 
> Belleville, WI. 
> '70 SPL AND SRL 
> Still clueless but always learning 
> 
> 
> 
> Check ebay. Looks like someone is selling correct pitch 5x.75 stainless 
> screws. I purchased some of his old offering that turned out to be the wrong 
> size. Contacted him and it looks like he has been responsive to our needs. I'll 
> get some and see how they look. 
> 
> keith "the slow carb guy" williams 
> 
> 
> 
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From CBrucciani at archinsurance.com  Fri Jan  4 12:05:56 2008
From: CBrucciani at archinsurance.com (Brucciani, Chris)
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 14:05:56 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Miata Seats in Atlanta
Message-ID: <D62FF54BDD2C4949A50BCDE34642014D015DBD4E@NWKEXCH03.corp.archcapservices.com>

Not mine but I came across this today.

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/pts/524519765.html


Chris Brucciani
Marietta, GA
1973 240Z
1995 Miata
1998 BMW 540i6



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From bubwin at mts.net  Fri Jan  4 13:03:30 2008
From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba)
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 14:03:30 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Question about Steering wheel lock
In-Reply-To: <000f01c84eeb$45a06600$d0e13200$@net>
References: <000f01c84eeb$45a06600$d0e13200$@net>
Message-ID: <BC14007C219641DEB9FA10556FDAFBE2@ownerPC>

Sometimes the steering wheel turns slightly after it locks, and the locking 
pin gets jammed.  Before taking anything apart, try turning the steering 
wheel both ways wit some effort.  Don't jerk it, just apply steady pressure. 
If this doesn't work, next is to jack up the front so there's no weight on 
the front wheels.  Try again.

Good luck
Bob Wisnlade
1966-1600 Missy
1967-1600 Bender

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chas Willis" <Fairlady at putermail.net>
To: "datsun-roadsters" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 10:02 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Question about Steering wheel lock


>I have a 68 2000, the keys are stuck in the ignition the ignition will not
> turn and the steering wheel is locked.
>
> I looked at removing the ignition and the locking mechanisms from the 
> column
> but there are two odd type studs in the case that look as if they
>
> are meant to protect the mechanism from being removed by a thief.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Chas
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Jan  4 13:35:57 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 20:35:57 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] hard top
Message-ID: <010420082035.10686.477E98AD000BAF7B000029BE2207020853CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

They were looking for the original JDM hardtop, formerly available for the high windshield cars from <insert company name here cuz I don't remember it>.

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Bill Oakes" <boakes at gmail.com>
> Wasn't someone looking for a hardtop?
> 
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Fri Jan  4 15:52:56 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 14:52:56 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Small pic of Bill Wessel's car in SCCA calendar
Message-ID: <NPEMKDINNFCDIIAIJECGMEDFEOAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>

I just got the latest issue of Sports Car, which included SCCA's 2008
calendar. On the November page, across the top there are a series of photos
from various club racing classes, and the first one is from the G Prod
Runoffs event. I know it's a very small picture, but anytime a roadster
shows up in any publication, I'm happy.
Gordon Glasgow
Renton, WA
www.gordon-glasgow.org

From jrdmf at aol.com  Fri Jan  4 16:23:42 2008
From: jrdmf at aol.com (jrdmf at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 18:23:42 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Small pic of Bill Wessel's car in SCCA calendar
In-Reply-To: <NPEMKDINNFCDIIAIJECGMEDFEOAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>
References: <NPEMKDINNFCDIIAIJECGMEDFEOAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <8CA1D3FFAC3C2EB-230-28DC@FWM-M34.sysops.aol.com>

There is also a full page article in the February 2008 issue of Collector Car magazine that mentions?"The high collectability factor" of the Roadster and (gag)?places?it's value comparable?to the MGB. It may not be the most accurate article you'll ever read but at least they are getting noticed?

Jon Frampton
Huntington Beach Ca


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Sent: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 2:52 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Small pic of Bill Wessel's car in SCCA calendar



I just got the latest issue of Sports Car, which included SCCA's 2008
calendar. On the November page, across the top there are a series of photos
from various club racing classes, and the first one is from the G Prod
Runoffs event. I know it's a very small picture, but anytime a roadster
shows up in any publication, I'm happy.
Gordon Glasgow
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From escanlon at wa-net.com  Fri Jan  4 16:37:07 2008
From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon)
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 15:37:07 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Question about Steering wheel lock
References: <000f01c84eeb$45a06600$d0e13200$@net>
Message-ID: <000601c84f2a$b86051c0$0300a8c0@HPW>

Those ARE the anti-theft screws that mount the lock mechanism to the 
steering column.

Easy & quick answer: Using a Drremel Cut Off Wheel, grind a slot in each one 
and then using a straight edge (standard) screwdriver, remove them. 
Alternatively, drill them out.  In either case you can then replace them 
with standard phillips head screws as exist in the other two holes.

Alternatively, try jiggling the key IN the lock, and if necessary, shoot a 
quick shot of WD40 along it's side.  It's more than likely that one of the 
pin tumblers inside the lock has either gotten stuck or gotten bent.  If 
stuck the oil may loosen it and allow the key to be extracted.  If bent, 
then you may have to take the whole assembly to a locksmith.

Hope this helps
Enrique


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chas Willis" Subject: [Roadsters] Question about Steering wheel lock


>I have a 68 2000, the keys are stuck in the ignition the ignition will not
> turn and the steering wheel is locked.
>
> I looked at removing the ignition and the locking mechanisms from the 
> column
> but there are two odd type studs in the case that look as if they
>
> are meant to protect the mechanism from being removed by a thief.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Chas

From vulforge at aol.com  Fri Jan  4 16:47:06 2008
From: vulforge at aol.com (vulforge at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 18:47:06 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Column screws
Message-ID: <8CA1D433FCA6CC1-11A4-29D2@mblk-d39.sysops.aol.com>

I imagine they are similar to the one-way screws on a 510.? Cut a notch in them with a Dremel or similar with a separating disc or narrow saw to give you a screwdriver slot and unscrew them.


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From tputland at charter.net  Fri Jan  4 18:28:46 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 20:28:46 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Stay safe in CA!!
Message-ID: <20080104202846.00Z34.540329.root@fepweb14>

Hope as is well and stays well in CA!! That is one big ass storm you all are in the middle of right now. Already 1,000,000 people with out power. Holy Shit.

Stay safe all!

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From jklingman at stny.rr.com  Fri Jan  4 21:28:39 2008
From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman)
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 23:28:39 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] hardtop
Message-ID: <000b01c84f53$724cba10$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>

 We bought a high windshield hard top from Craig Halsted and he brought it to
the Glen last Sept , we put it on Spike for the trip home so some people have
seen it. The top is fiber glass, inside is hard cream colored small diamond
embossed pattern, outside is black  padded vinyl-like skin in pseudo reptile,
no side windows, back is raked with glass window, stainless steel trim all
around. It is an easy install and fits perfectly. I have no idea who made it
but it is a good looking hard top, really reminds me of a mid '60's Mercedes
230SL top. If anyone knows anything about this top we would like to know. If
you want to see a picture e-mail me off list.
    John and Gloria Klingman
    Sidney, NY '68 2000 aka Spike

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Sat Jan  5 08:06:55 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 10:06:55 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] screws  non-ISO
Message-ID: <d22.16ee61d7.34b0f70f@aol.com>

In a message dated 1/4/2008 10:39:13 AM Pacific Standard Time,  
conner_a at comcast.net writes:

I have actually ordered this guy's carb screw-pack on ebay as well.   Should 
arrive any day now, I specified my car is a 68 so we'll see if the dome  
screws actually fit.  
 
Andy Conner
SRL 311-01633



If they don't, contact him. They have been very responsive to getting the  
correct screws delivered. Since the screws did not seem to have a hard  
switchover year, and carbs have been switched a lot, knowing what screw you have  when 
you order would be best. You can either measure with a metric thread pitch  
gauge or go to the hardware store and but one 5mm screw. The modern screw will  
be 5x.8. If your carb screws don't match you have the 5x.75. The 5x.75 are a 
bit  pricey as he is having them made. 
 
BTW, if anyone orders a set and replaces your old ugly original screws, I  
would love to have the old ones. I will still be refurbishing all the old screws 
 I can find.
 
keith "the slow carb guy" williams



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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Sat Jan  5 08:45:45 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 10:45:45 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang dates?
Message-ID: <c40.279e7f89.34b10029@aol.com>

Hello all,
 
    Looks like Solvang and Road Atlanta might not be  the same weekend. 
Anyone know the dates for Solvang this year?
 
keith williams



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From vytis1600 at yahoo.com  Sat Jan  5 12:27:58 2008
From: vytis1600 at yahoo.com (vytis1600)
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 11:27:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters]  Stay safe in CA!!
Message-ID: <86281.40848.qm@web44804.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

yes, it is a bit wet and windy here

       
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From tminerpcav at aol.com  Sat Jan  5 13:32:12 2008
From: tminerpcav at aol.com (tminerpcav at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 15:32:12 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Stay safe in CA!!
In-Reply-To: <20080104202846.00Z34.540329.root@fepweb14>
References: <20080104202846.00Z34.540329.root@fepweb14>
Message-ID: <8CA1DF12F8CB1EB-740-4493@MBLK-M35.sysops.aol.com>

Yes it is raining pretty good, and it's getting cold (about 55 degrees!)!

Tim Miner

P.S. How cold is it in Belleville?


---- Original Message ----
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To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 5:28 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Stay safe in CA!!



Hope as is well and stays well in CA!! That is one big ass storm you all are in 
the middle of right now. Already 1,000,000 people with out power. Holy Shit.

Stay safe all!

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning
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From stathy at shaw.ca  Sat Jan  5 14:49:52 2008
From: stathy at shaw.ca (Stan)
Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 13:49:52 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Stay safe in CA!!
In-Reply-To: <8CA1DF12F8CB1EB-740-4493@MBLK-M35.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <000001c84fe4$e7427850$6500a8c0@skc9f575fd3b21>

Oh man....i'm flying into LA with my family early tomorrow morning to 
Start our 7 day cruise.
What's the real forecast for later today/tomorrow morning?

Much appreciated :)

Cheers!
Stan in rainy Vancouver

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+stathy=shaw.ca at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+stathy=shaw.ca at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of tminerpcav at aol.com
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 12:32 PM
To: tputland at charter.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stay safe in CA!!

Yes it is raining pretty good, and it's getting cold (about 55
degrees!)!

Tim Miner

P.S. How cold is it in Belleville?


---- Original Message ----
From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 5:28 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Stay safe in CA!!



Hope as is well and stays well in CA!! That is one big ass storm you all
are in 
the middle of right now. Already 1,000,000 people with out power. Holy
Shit.

Stay safe all!

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning
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From tputland at charter.net  Sat Jan  5 18:03:48 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 17:03:48 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] My winter(with Roadster content!)--was Stay Safe in CA!!
In-Reply-To: <8CA1DF12F8CB1EB-740-4493@MBLK-M35.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <20080105200348.D7HXC.566169.root@fepweb12>

---->P.S. How cold is it in Belleville?<----- Tim Miner

Upper 30s today. Warmer tomorrow and possibly warmer yet next week. We are just starting our annual mid winter warm up--annual for the past 10 years or so anyway. At one point this weekend the forecast for Tuesday was 50. 48 ours ago the low was -6!

We may lose the snow, which is bad for the alfalfa crop as it needs the snow cover to prevent over winter freeze damage. On the other hand--Roadster content here: if it is nice enough, I will take one of the Roadsters out as long as the road salt is washed away. But then again, I have yet to replace any of the rusted panels so more salt damage is hard to do....

Hmmmm...top down in January. Might bring a whole new meaning to the "Polar Bear Plunge".  ;-)

Getting closer to having all the pieces for a restoration!

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- tminerpcav at aol.com wrote: 

=============
Yes it is raining pretty good, and it's getting cold (about 55 degrees!)!

Tim Miner

P.S. How cold is it in Belleville?


---- Original Message ----
From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 5:28 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Stay safe in CA!!



Hope as is well and stays well in CA!! That is one big ass storm you all are in 
the middle of right now. Already 1,000,000 people with out power. Holy Shit.

Stay safe all!

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning
________________________________________

From roadster at astound.net  Sun Jan  6 04:01:08 2008
From: roadster at astound.net (roadster katman)
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 03:01:08 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Stay safe in CA!!
In-Reply-To: <20080104202846.00Z34.540329.root@fepweb14>
Message-ID: <000001c85053$74620e30$c701000a@M7000>

I'm in So. San Francisco. Power was out from early Friday morning to
Saturday noon. I used my generator to keep the fridge contents cold.
Wind was really intense. Threw my deck chairs, other stuff including a
greenhouse all around the yard, and tore up part of my fences on both
sides. Broke a city-owned tree to pieces in front of my house. Lots of
trees down around the neighborhood.

What amazed me is my '70 1600 parked in front of the house. I have a
hardtop sitting loosely on it, unclamped. Whenever I go for a spin on a
sunny day, I simply lift the hardtop off, lean it against my fence and
drive away. The fierce winds left the roadster top intact on the car.

Fred
So.SF, CA

-----Original Message-----
From:  Tim Subject: [Roadsters] Stay safe in CA!!

>Hope as is well and stays well in CA!! That is one big ass storm you
all are in the middle of right now. 
>Already 1,000,000 people with out power. Holy Shit.
>
>Stay safe all!
>
>Tim
>Belleville, WI.
>'70 SPL AND SRL

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Sun Jan  6 06:28:56 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 08:28:56 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] My winter(with Roadster content!)-
In-Reply-To: <20080105200348.D7HXC.566169.root@fepweb12>
References: <8CA1DF12F8CB1EB-740-4493@MBLK-M35.sysops.aol.com>
	<20080105200348.D7HXC.566169.root@fepweb12>
Message-ID: <001701c85068$19336a80$4b9a3f80$@net>

  The snow is melting and it should hit 60+ tomorrow!  I'll be in Plain City
pulling the motor out of a '69 2000.  It hasn't run since the early '70s,
but the owner is ready to go riding again.

Paul
Ohio

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 8:04 PM
To: tminerpcav at aol.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [PHISH][Roadsters] My winter(with Roadster content!)--was Stay Safe
in CA!!

---->P.S. How cold is it in Belleville?<----- Tim Miner

Upper 30s today. Warmer tomorrow and possibly warmer yet next week. We are
just starting our annual mid winter warm up--annual for the past 10 years or
so anyway. At one point this weekend the forecast for Tuesday was 50. 48
ours ago the low was -6!

We may lose the snow, which is bad for the alfalfa crop as it needs the snow
cover to prevent over winter freeze damage. On the other hand--Roadster
content here: if it is nice enough, I will take one of the Roadsters out as
long as the road salt is washed away. But then again, I have yet to replace
any of the rusted panels so more salt damage is hard to do....

Hmmmm...top down in January. Might bring a whole new meaning to the "Polar
Bear Plunge".  ;-)

Getting closer to having all the pieces for a restoration!

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- tminerpcav at aol.com wrote: 

=============
Yes it is raining pretty good, and it's getting cold (about 55 degrees!)!

Tim Miner

P.S. How cold is it in Belleville?


---- Original Message ----
From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 5:28 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Stay safe in CA!!



Hope as is well and stays well in CA!! That is one big ass storm you all are
in 
the middle of right now. Already 1,000,000 people with out power. Holy Shit.

Stay safe all!

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning
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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Mon Jan  7 16:08:15 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 18:08:15 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 engine pull ?s
Message-ID: <000501c85182$30d430f0$927c92d0$@net>

  I've pulled R16s out of roadsters at least 20 times, but only a U20 once.
So I have a few questions.

 

  Any easy way to get the speedo cable off the tranny?  Kind of well hidden
up in the tunnel.

 

  Can't seem to get wrenches on the bolts holding the drive shaft to the 5
speed. Secret tool?

 

TIA,

 

Paul

Ohio

From jrdmf at aol.com  Mon Jan  7 16:26:45 2008
From: jrdmf at aol.com (jrdmf at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 18:26:45 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 engine pull ?s
In-Reply-To: <000501c85182$30d430f0$927c92d0$@net>
References: <000501c85182$30d430f0$927c92d0$@net>
Message-ID: <8CA1F9BE6DE7458-F40-221@WEBMAIL-MC11.sysops.aol.com>

Got mine off by reaching through the tunnel from inside the car. Was kind of a pain but I couldn't manipulate it any other way.



Jon Frampton

Huntington Beach Ca


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net>
To: 'datsun-roadsters' <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 3:08 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 engine pull ?s




  I've pulled R16s out of roadsters at least 20 times, but only a U20 once.
So I have a few questions.

 

  Any easy way to get the speedo cable off the tranny?  Kind of well hidden
up in the tunnel.

 

  Can't seem to get wrenches on the bolts holding the drive shaft to the 5
speed. Secret tool?

 

TIA,

 

Paul

Ohio
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From tputland at charter.net  Mon Jan  7 16:28:04 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 15:28:04 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Too funny not to pass along
Message-ID: <20080107182804.V7RKM.656644.root@fepweb15>

Sorry if some of the listers don't appreciate this but I have to pass this on. Turn on your speakers.

http://heraldnet.com/article/20071221/MULTIMEDIA/283841756


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

>
>> Subject: Stan Boreson's lament
>>
>>
>>
>>      HAPPY NEW YEAR!
>>
>>    Turn up the volume and enjoy!!
>>
>
>> http://heraldnet.com/article/20071221/MULTIMEDIA/283841756
>>
>>
=============

From joek at camberconstruction.com  Mon Jan  7 16:40:02 2008
From: joek at camberconstruction.com (Joe Kinstle)
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 15:40:02 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 engine pull ?s
In-Reply-To: <8CA1F9BE6DE7458-F40-221@WEBMAIL-MC11.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <200801072339.m07NdxaC027890@flpi195.prodigy.net>

I wait until the motor is part way out, then it is easy to reach.  Just
don't forget in the excitement that something is still hooked on the engine.

Also, no reason to undo the driveshaft from the tranny, it is a slip yoke.

Joe Kinstle
'68 2L
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of jrdmf at aol.com
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:27 PM
To: 9laser3 at bright.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 2000 engine pull ?s

Got mine off by reaching through the tunnel from inside the car. Was kind of
a pain but I couldn't manipulate it any other way.



Jon Frampton

Huntington Beach Ca


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net>
To: 'datsun-roadsters' <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 3:08 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 engine pull ?s




  I've pulled R16s out of roadsters at least 20 times, but only a U20 once.
So I have a few questions.

 

  Any easy way to get the speedo cable off the tranny?  Kind of well hidden
up in the tunnel.

 

  Can't seem to get wrenches on the bolts holding the drive shaft to the 5
speed. Secret tool?

 

TIA,

 

Paul

Ohio
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Mon Jan  7 16:53:38 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 23:53:38 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 engine pull ?s
Message-ID: <010720082353.36.4782BB82000BFEF1000000242206998499CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Don't forget to have pan or can or whatever ready to catch the oil that didn't drain out of the tranny....

I haven't been there, but I've read plenty of posts from folks who have! <g>

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Joe Kinstle" <joek at camberconstruction.com>
> I wait until the motor is part way out, then it is easy to reach.  Just
> don't forget in the excitement that something is still hooked on the engine.
> 
> Also, no reason to undo the driveshaft from the tranny, it is a slip yoke.
> 
> Joe Kinstle
> '68 2L
>  
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of jrdmf at aol.com
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:27 PM
> To: 9laser3 at bright.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 2000 engine pull ?s
> 
> Got mine off by reaching through the tunnel from inside the car. Was kind of
> a pain but I couldn't manipulate it any other way.
> 
> 
> 
> Jon Frampton
> 
> Huntington Beach Ca
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net>
> To: 'datsun-roadsters' <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 3:08 pm
> Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 engine pull ?s
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   I've pulled R16s out of roadsters at least 20 times, but only a U20 once.
> So I have a few questions.
> 
>  
> 
>   Any easy way to get the speedo cable off the tranny?  Kind of well hidden
> up in the tunnel.
> 
>  
> 
>   Can't seem to get wrenches on the bolts holding the drive shaft to the 5
> speed. Secret tool?
> 
>  
> 
> TIA,
> 
>  
> 
> Paul
> 
> Ohio
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From sandhoff at csus.edu  Mon Jan  7 17:06:56 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:06:56 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 engine pull ?s
In-Reply-To: <010720082353.36.4782BB82000BFEF1000000242206998499CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <47824E20.28802.18CA3FA@localhost>

> Don't forget to have pan or can or whatever ready to catch the oil that
> didn't drain out of the tranny....

No concern on the 5 speed because of the two piece driveshaft. A
short section bolts to the 5 speed output flange. Doesn't pull
out of the tranny, hence no oil spill.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Mon Jan  7 17:56:19 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 16:56:19 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 engine pull ?s
In-Reply-To: <200801072339.m07NdxaC027890@flpi195.prodigy.net>
References: <8CA1F9BE6DE7458-F40-221@WEBMAIL-MC11.sysops.aol.com>
	<200801072339.m07NdxaC027890@flpi195.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <BAY106-W15B647CDCC4A2062864D3BDF480@phx.gbl>

Hi Paul

On pulling engine - there is a rubber 'boot' attached to the drive shaft that
can catch against the frame when pulling the engine and you run the risk of
'tearing' it. So be sure to lift it on to the frame as you are pulling the
engine.

BTW - if you don't have an engine leveller - either borrow  one or buy one -
it is invaluable - especially when 'unpulling'

Later

From roadster at astound.net  Mon Jan  7 20:03:53 2008
From: roadster at astound.net (roadster katman)
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 19:03:53 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 engine pull ?s
In-Reply-To: <000501c85182$30d430f0$927c92d0$@net>
Message-ID: <000701c851a3$1d131c90$c701000a@M7000>

<snip>  Can't seem to get wrenches on the bolts holding the drive shaft
to the 5 speed. Secret tool?

I've got box wrenches that have offset ends, no problem doing the bolts
there or on the u-joints at rear. Bought them years ago, so don't know a
source, but they do exist.

Fred - So.SF
'66 2L
'70 1600
'68 2L

From roadster at astound.net  Mon Jan  7 20:12:12 2008
From: roadster at astound.net (roadster katman)
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 19:12:12 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 engine pull ?s
In-Reply-To: <010720082353.36.4782BB82000BFEF1000000242206998499CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000801c851a4$46c80860$c701000a@M7000>

<snip> Don't forget to have pan or can or whatever ready to catch the
oil that didn't drain out of the tranny....
>
> I haven't been there, but I've read plenty of posts from folks who
have! <g>

Pertains to 1600's. Always had 2000's. First experience of 4-spd trannys
for me was after buying a non-op 1600 roadster from a young lady. I
unbolted and removed the driveshaft, to make it easier for a tow truck
to tow the roadster home. After the tow truck lifted the roadster front
and pulled away, I saw a lake of tranny fluid in her driveway. Oops!

Fred - So.SF

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Mon Jan  7 20:53:06 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 19:53:06 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 engine pull ?s
In-Reply-To: <000501c85182$30d430f0$927c92d0$@net>
Message-ID: <NPEMKDINNFCDIIAIJECGAEEAEOAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>

I usually just unhook the cable from the housing, I don't unbolt the whole
drive assembly. It's awkward, but what I do is to reach into the tunnel from
inside the car with a set of curved-jaw channelocks. They grab great on the
knurled lock ring. Once you get it loose, you can undo it the rest of the
way by hand.

Gordon
Renton, WA

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:08 PM
To: 'datsun-roadsters'
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 engine pull ?s


  I've pulled R16s out of roadsters at least 20 times, but only a U20 once.
So I have a few questions.



  Any easy way to get the speedo cable off the tranny?  Kind of well hidden
up in the tunnel.



  Can't seem to get wrenches on the bolts holding the drive shaft to the 5
speed. Secret tool?



TIA,



Paul

Ohio
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From jklingman at stny.rr.com  Mon Jan  7 21:31:01 2008
From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman)
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 23:31:01 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Too funny not to pass along
References: <20080107182804.V7RKM.656644.root@fepweb15>
Message-ID: <000c01c851af$469adce0$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>

We just love a good laugh, thanks for sharing.We sent it off to other 
friends.You got the subject named right.
   Gloria and John Klingman
    Sidney, NY '68 2000 a.k.a. Spike
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>
To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 6:28 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Too funny not to pass along


> Sorry if some of the listers don't appreciate this but I have to pass this 
> on. Turn on your speakers.
>
> http://heraldnet.com/article/20071221/MULTIMEDIA/283841756
>
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
>
>>
>>> Subject: Stan Boreson's lament
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      HAPPY NEW YEAR!
>>>
>>>    Turn up the volume and enjoy!!
>>>
>>
>>> http://heraldnet.com/article/20071221/MULTIMEDIA/283841756
>>>
>>>
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Mon Jan  7 21:46:58 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 20:46:58 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Too funny not to pass along
In-Reply-To: <20080107182804.V7RKM.656644.root@fepweb15>
Message-ID: <NPEMKDINNFCDIIAIJECGCEEBEOAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>

That must have been sent to you by a local (Seattleite). Stan Boreson had a
kids' show on KING TV for years (decades?). I used to watch him all the time
when I was a kid.

He was one of those great old-time comedians who only made fun of himself,
not other people - kind of like Red Skelton. And like Skelton, he did
various characters, most of whom had Scandinavian accents. Even to this day,
it's considered politically okay to make Scandinavian jokes, because they
were some of the very early settlers in a neighborhood called Ballard.
Ballard was right on the Lake Washington Ship Canal, and the major
industries were fishing, logging and building lopsided houses.

One of his favorite things was to take a "normal" song and rewrite it with a
crazy Scandinavian twist, like:

"Catch A Pickled Herring" (to the tune of "Catch A Falling Star")

"Catch a pickled herring, put it in a barrel,
Save it for a rainy day.
Catch a pickled herring, put it in a barrel,
watch the neighbors move away."

"Walking in my Winter Underwear" (to the tune of "Walking In a Winter
Wonderland")

"Ragnar the Flatnosed Reindeer"

and many, many more.

He also had two Bassett hounds who must have been tranquilized, because they
hardly ever moved. He named them Slo-mo-shun and No-mo-shun.

Truly a great character.

http://www.stanboreson.com/

Gordon
Renton, WA

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:28 PM
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Too funny not to pass along


Sorry if some of the listers don't appreciate this but I have to pass this
on. Turn on your speakers.

http://heraldnet.com/article/20071221/MULTIMEDIA/283841756


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

>
>> Subject: Stan Boreson's lament
>>
>>
>>
>>      HAPPY NEW YEAR!
>>
>>    Turn up the volume and enjoy!!
>>
>
>> http://heraldnet.com/article/20071221/MULTIMEDIA/283841756
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Mon Jan  7 23:12:23 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 22:12:23 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 engine pull ?s
In-Reply-To: <200801080004.m08047h7024712@flpi185.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <001901c851bd$6f76bae0$6501a8c0@xp>

Thanks to all who corrected me. Ya learn something new every day!

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Kinstle [mailto:joek at camberconstruction.com]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:04 PM
To: ppeters914 at comcast.net; 'Datsun Roadster List'
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] 2000 engine pull ?s


That happens with the 4 speeds, but if you leave the tail shaft on the 5
speed, no oil comes out.

I've also read that a spray paint cap fits well on the tail of the 4 speed
and prevents leakage, but I have no personal experience there.

Joe Kinstle
68' 2L


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of ppeters914 at comcast.net
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:54 PM
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 2000 engine pull ?s

Don't forget to have pan or can or whatever ready to catch the oil that
didn't drain out of the tranny....

I haven't been there, but I've read plenty of posts from folks who have! <g>

Pete

From sprasad at tycoelectronics.com  Tue Jan  8 09:57:14 2008
From: sprasad at tycoelectronics.com (Prasad, Sunil)
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 08:57:14 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
Message-ID: <FBA3A7A1B71B7A4C8CCC1B3B193A634B0BCFDFD5@usr34mx00.tycoelectronics.net>

When is the Solvang show for this year need to plan for vacation
Dates please





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Tyco Electronics
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Menlo Park, CA 94025
Phone: 650-361-2817
Cell: 650-575-6966
Fax: 650-361-3518

From roadstergb at aol.com  Tue Jan  8 13:21:30 2008
From: roadstergb at aol.com (roadstergb at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 15:21:30 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Fairlady SPL212/213 on YouTube
Message-ID: <8CA204B3055CE0F-FDC-5B15@webmail-de14.sysops.aol.com>

A rare sight indeed ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmwxOx6ATYA

Anyone on the list???

Happy New Year from England - Rob



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From roadstergb at aol.com  Tue Jan  8 13:25:44 2008
From: roadstergb at aol.com (roadstergb at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 15:25:44 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] January image of the month - www.fairlady.org
Message-ID: <8CA204BC7AB2F04-FDC-5B7A@webmail-de14.sysops.aol.com>

This month, a great Datsun Roadster racing advert from 1968. My thanks go to Roger Loop for forwarding this image.

http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/Jan2008.htm

Cheers - Rob

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From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov  Tue Jan  8 13:52:25 2008
From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03))
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 14:52:25 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] January image of the month - www.fairlady.org
In-Reply-To: <8CA204BC7AB2F04-FDC-5B7A@webmail-de14.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CA204BC7AB2F04-FDC-5B7A@webmail-de14.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF7647DE9B@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>

 Another great image from Rob!!  I would be so nice to have these
printed and in a book, but Rob went and bought another Roadster....  I
guess it is more fun working with the real thing then paper, but that
book would be nice:)  I wonder with all the copyright laws if a book is
possible.

Have a great Roadster day!

Phil
SEROC

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of roadstergb at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 2:26 PM
To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] January image of the month - www.fairlady.org

This month, a great Datsun Roadster racing advert from 1968. My thanks
go to Roger Loop for forwarding this image.

http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/Jan2008.htm

Cheers - Rob

__

From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com  Tue Jan  8 14:15:37 2008
From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison)
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 13:15:37 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Fairlady SPL212/213 on YouTube
In-Reply-To: <8CA204B3055CE0F-FDC-5B15@webmail-de14.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <C3A927F9.5D67%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>

After watching the video I couldn't help but click on one of the other
Datsun Roadster videos - something about the Datsun 1600 that ate Paris -
and watched a couple out for a weekend of antiquing in the country only to
have the video end with an off-road romp that resulted in a full on roll
over! (I'm not making this up.) What happened to these people? What happened
to their Roadster? What happened to that nice antique painting in the back
that went flying? 

Just curious,
Greg
SRL31100494
Roadstering since '75


On 1/8/08 12:21 PM, "roadstergb at aol.com" <roadstergb at aol.com> wrote:

> A rare sight indeed ...
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmwxOx6ATYA
> 
> Anyone on the list???
> 
> Happy New Year from England - Rob
> 
> 
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From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com  Tue Jan  8 14:23:24 2008
From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 15:23:24 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Fairlady SPL212/213 on YouTube
In-Reply-To: <C3A927F9.5D67%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>
References: <C3A927F9.5D67%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>
Message-ID: <4783E9CC.40506@hornesystemstx.com>

I saw that video also. I hope they chose a junk yard queen to roll down 
the hill. I wouldn't even do that wit my parts car!

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Gregory S. Morrison:
> After watching the video I couldn't help but click on one of the other
> Datsun Roadster videos - something about the Datsun 1600 that ate Paris -
> and watched a couple out for a weekend of antiquing in the country only to
> have the video end with an off-road romp that resulted in a full on roll
> over! (I'm not making this up.) What happened to these people? What happened
> to their Roadster? What happened to that nice antique painting in the back
> that went flying? 
>
> Just curious,
> Greg
> SRL31100494
> Roadstering since '75
>
>
> On 1/8/08 12:21 PM, "roadstergb at aol.com" <roadstergb at aol.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> A rare sight indeed ...
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmwxOx6ATYA
>>
>> Anyone on the list???
>>
>> Happy New Year from England - Rob
>>
>>
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From roadstergb at aol.com  Tue Jan  8 14:50:16 2008
From: roadstergb at aol.com (roadstergb at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:50:16 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Fairlady 1600 - The Cars That Ate Paris movie
In-Reply-To: <C3A927F9.5D67%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>
Message-ID: <8CA205796F0838F-1798-287@webmail-de14.sysops.aol.com>

Hi Greg

I originally thought this was a junkyard car rolling over (no license plate and a few other details that look different from the car in the earlier scenes). But Aussie Datsun buff Alan Bent says they actually did wreck the car in the early scenes. Alan's partner Ruth says that one of the production
crew of the movie apparently took the car with the intention of restoring it (?!), but didn't. He sold it
to another chap who had the same intention, who then sold it to Alan. Alan used it for a parts car, so there are still parts of this car in use today!


This was the opening clip to something of a cult movie, made back in 1972, but there are no more Datsuns featured. The opening scene was really out of context compared with the rest of the film - something of a spoof cigarette commercial, but I definitely thought it was worth uploading!

Cheers!

Rob


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Gregory S. Morrison <gsm at gregorysmorrison.com>
To: roadstergb at aol.com; Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 9:15 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun Fairlady SPL212/213 on YouTube










After watching the video I couldn't help but click on one of the other
Datsun Roadster videos - something about the Datsun 1600 that ate Paris -
and watched a couple out for a weekend of antiquing in the country only to
have the video end with an off-road romp that resulted in a full on roll
over! (I'm not making this up.) What happened to these people? What happened
to their Roadster? What happened to that nice antique painting in the back
that went flying? 

Just curious,
Greg
SRL31100494
Roadstering since '75


On 1/8/08 12:21 PM, "roadstergb at aol.com" <roadstergb at aol.com> wrote:

> A rare sight indeed ...
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmwxOx6ATYA
> 
> Anyone on the list???
> 
> Happy New Year from England - Rob
> 
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From rksmith46 at hotmail.com  Tue Jan  8 15:35:18 2008
From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith)
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 17:35:18 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 engine pull ?s
In-Reply-To: <8CA1F9BE6DE7458-F40-221@WEBMAIL-MC11.sysops.aol.com>
References: <000501c85182$30d430f0$927c92d0$@net>
	<8CA1F9BE6DE7458-F40-221@WEBMAIL-MC11.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY124-W132173386FAFA487AE78DDBF480@phx.gbl>

 paul, jon is right about taking the nuts loose from inside the car, thru the
shifter

hole. i cut a 1/2" open end wrench in two and used that. you will have to
rotate the drive shaft

just right ,to get the wrench on and to be able to move it. put it in gear to
hold steady,

and ,you may have to use a longer wrench to break the nut loose initially.
there is another

quick and dirty way to do it: just pull the eng. and trans. forward and pull
the u joint

piece off the end of the  drive shaft.(it is splined) it needs to be oriented
properly going

back together, though. also, its extremely hard to put it back on the end of
the drive

shaft while installing the eng. and trans. i would just work at it ,thru the
shifter hole.
                   bob smith
                    69 srl311> To: 9laser3 at bright.net;
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 18:26:45 -0500> From:
jrdmf at aol.com> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 2000 engine pull ?s> > Got mine off by
reaching through the tunnel from inside the car. Was kind of a pain but I
couldn't manipulate it any other way.> > > > Jon Frampton> > Huntington Beach
Ca> > > -----Original Message-----> From: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net>> To:
'datsun-roadsters' <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>> Sent: Mon, 7 Jan 2008
3:08 pm> Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 engine pull ?s> > > > > I've pulled R16s
out of roadsters at least 20 times, but only a U20 once.> So I have a few
questions.> > > > Any easy way to get the speedo cable off the tranny? Kind of
well hidden> up in the tunnel.> > > > Can't seem to get wrenches on the bolts
holding the drive shaft to the 5> speed. Secret tool?> > >
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From sandhoff at csus.edu  Tue Jan  8 16:05:23 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 15:05:23 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 engine pull ?s
In-Reply-To: <BAY124-W132173386FAFA487AE78DDBF480@phx.gbl>
References: <8CA1F9BE6DE7458-F40-221@WEBMAIL-MC11.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <47839133.22983.1563EDE@localhost>

> quick and dirty way to do it: just pull the eng. and trans. forward and
> pull the u joint piece off the end of the  drive shaft.(it is splined). 
> it needs to be oriented properly going back together, though. also,
> its extremely hard to put it back on the end of the drive shaft while
> installing the eng. and trans.

Or, undo the four bolts at the differential end and pull the main
driveshaft. During the pull/reinstall, you need to be careful to not
snag or damage the short splined end still on the tranny, but that's
not too difficult to rig up a way to hold the U-joint straight. After
the assembly is back in, reinstall the driveshaft at your leisure.

Note that the U20/5spd is a good deal longer than the R/4spd. I've
always pulled the radiator and upper support bar to give myself a
less-steep tilt angle.

Don't forget the ground straps and oil sender hose :-)

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From toolmansj2 at comcast.net  Tue Jan  8 17:16:51 2008
From: toolmansj2 at comcast.net (toolmansj2 at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 00:16:51 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: final stages of u20 install (need help)
Message-ID: <010920080016.7290.4784127300061E3C00001C7A2215578674B6AC020E03040101AB@comcast.net>

-------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- 
From: toolmansj2 at comcast.net 
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net (roadster list) 
Subject: final stages of u20 install (need help) 
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:14:55 +0000 

I am finally getting engine components on my fresh u20, like many of us here I have never seen the engine installed and operational. I bought this car as a pile of parts.Was wondering if someone has some good close up engine compatment pics that would show the fuel line routing to the SUs where do you actually run the lines. Does the hose just dangle around the front or how are they held in place. I have looked at many pics but cant find the right pics.4 or 5 pics  pics of the same engine compartment (different angles)would be ideal.
Thanks Alot Shaun Jones Tracy Ca

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Jan  9 21:50:45 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 20:50:45 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Rat Rod 411 Wagon
Message-ID: <000601c85344$5d295310$6501a8c0@xp>

Bob Seeger may be buying a Mercury, but I'll take a Datto...

<http://forum.ratsun.net/showthread.php?t=2522>

                    `  ___  '   
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------------------ooO--(_)--Ooo----
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1966 1600 SPL311
1966 L20B WPL411

From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 10 09:58:06 2008
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:58:06 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Soft Top Install
Message-ID: <b0b0059f0801100858k1be2b199m859475ae107aa6d7@mail.gmail.com>

Hey List,
I recall hearing that there was someone in Vista, CA that could help me. I
need to have the new soft top put on it's frame. I don't mind driving the
Roadster to Vista to have this done, would be better if there was someone
closer but that will do for me.  I would like someone that has an
appreciation for the cars and know what they are doing when it comes to the
soft top on a roadster.  I have had one guy here in the Riverside area want
$500 to do this and that is with me supplying the top.

So any help would be appreciated.

Chris

-- 
'66 1600
Riverside, CA
------------------------------------------------------
This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one.

From chalsted at comcast.net  Thu Jan 10 11:22:32 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:22:32 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 3 cheap roadsters and Z car engine Sacramento area
Message-ID: <001f01c853b5$c48c3c90$136fa343@craigscomputer>

there's a guy with 2 2000's and a 1600 along with a low mileage rebuilt 240Z
engine with quite a header on it in the Sacramento area, probably could buy it
all for $2k. let me know if you're local and interested- I have some pix
available.

Craig

From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net  Thu Jan 10 12:14:22 2008
From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:14:22 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [Roadsters] Soft Top Install
Message-ID: <16663078.1199992463339.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Les Cannaday at Classic Datsun Motorsports is in Vista.  He is a good guy, does great work, and visiting his shop is always a treat for roadster lovers.  His website has email and phone number to reach him.  Dewey 

-----Original Message-----
>From: Chris & Christy Breyer <fairlady66 at gmail.com>
>Sent: Jan 10, 2008 9:58 AM
>To: Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Roadsters] Soft Top Install
>
>Hey List,
>I recall hearing that there was someone in Vista, CA that could help me. I
>need to have the new soft top put on it's frame. I don't mind driving the
>Roadster to Vista to have this done, would be better if there was someone
>closer but that will do for me.  I would like someone that has an
>appreciation for the cars and know what they are doing when it comes to the
>soft top on a roadster.  I have had one guy here in the Riverside area want
>$500 to do this and that is with me supplying the top.
>
>So any help would be appreciated.
>
>Chris
>
>-- 
>'66 1600
>Riverside, CA
>------------------------------------------------------
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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Thu Jan 10 17:40:18 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:40:18 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 1500 WIPER MOTOR
Message-ID: <004601c853ea$90d43c60$b27cb520$@net>

  Can anybody help Martin?

  Please respond to vicweld1 at optusnet.com.au

Paul
Ohio

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Camilleri [mailto:vicweld1 at optusnet.com.au] 
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:42 PM
To: 9LASER3 at bright.net
Cc: Martin Camilleri
Subject: WIPER MOTOR

Hi, hope u can help me.Need exploded view of wiper motor for 1500 roadster.
regards MARTY

From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 10 20:33:35 2008
From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:33:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Fairlady SPL212/213 on YouTube
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That is a fellow Datsun SPL212 owner here in Houston, Texas. Car was originally from Southern California, where the owner's family ran the Datsun Dealership in Downey, CA.
   
  Hard to believe there are two running SPL212s, within 20 miles of each other.
   
  And...On January 26th in Houston (@ Planet Zero) there will be a classic Japanese Car gathering. There is good chance we may have both SPL212s parked side by side for the show :)
   
  http://tinyurl.com/3xwkpl Flyer
   
  http://tinyurl.com/25se3h Fourm
   
  Dan Zubkoff
  Houston, TX
   
  

roadstergb at aol.com wrote:
  A rare sight indeed ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmwxOx6ATYA

Anyone on the list???

Happy New Year from England - Rob



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From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Fri Jan 11 12:41:13 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:41:13 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang dates?
In-Reply-To: <c40.279e7f89.34b10029@aol.com>
Message-ID: <E1JDPkY-0006Os-8w@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Wow Keith!
Are you thinking about hitting both? What a week that would be!!! Wish I
were rich so I could join ya! If you go, I know ALL the great stuff to do
and the best surfing spots in Santa Barbara. Yes, I "know how" to surf.
Haven't done it in several years, but it's just like riding a surf board.
Once you know how, you never forget! HAHAHAHA. 
I've spent LOTS of time in SB over the last 40+ years. (Grandpa and I used
to fish Lake Cachuma. He was County Auditor of SB County. I spent all my
summers in SB, and I grew up in Ventura County).
Here's what I figured out:
FedEx of the car (from Atlanta to Santa Barbara) is about $2000. 
Airfare (American Airlines Economy Super Saver ATL-SBA) $276
Gas cost in a roadster @ about 3.00 per gallon (20 MPG, I DO have a Solex
2000 after all) is approx $450 if you drive, plus food, hotel, about 40-50
hours road time, AUTO REPAIR, and down time costs while repairs are made!
Going to both... ABSOLUTELY F'n PRICELESS! (Can I stow away in your
suitcase?)

Guna be another year or two before Loreli can see the Pacific Ocean again.
(Her previous residence was South Laguna Beach, CA).
Matt

    Looks like Solvang and Road Atlanta might not be the same weekend. 
Anyone know the dates for Solvang this year?
 
keith williams

From shifty at shiftco.com  Fri Jan 11 12:59:36 2008
From: shifty at shiftco.com (Leigh Brooks)
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:59:36 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Hood River, OR roadster run
Message-ID: <FCAC46A8-9808-4C42-A02D-FD903CD0CC93@shiftco.com>

Exit64 (Mike) and I are thinking of hosting a roadster run sometime  
this spring or early summer.

We're 60 miles east of Portland on the Columbia River. The drive from  
Portland is really nice. There are also some great drives around  
here. Maryhill, WA has a Stonehenge replica that is a great photo-op.  
Timberline Lodge at Mt. Hood is a great destination. Hood River is  
"the wind surfing capital of the world", plus we've got the Full Sail  
brewery and some decent wineries!

Last year there was a huge Mini gathering here, as well as one for  
Rolls Royces.

Thinking of folks coming in on Friday or early Saturday, a Saturday  
morning drive (3-4) hours followed by a BBQ.

Any interest?

Thanks,

Leigh Brooks

From roadster68 at shaw.ca  Fri Jan 11 13:17:35 2008
From: roadster68 at shaw.ca (Larry Dziuba)
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:17:35 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 68-70 soft top frame question
References: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGGEKJDDAA.tom@datsun2000.com>
Message-ID: <002b01c8548f$01132eb0$6401a8c0@useravjfzd6udp>

Hello Everyone and Happy New Year!  Wow am I behind in my emails.  Sorry it 
took so long to respond.  I do have the centre spacer in place.  I just have 
to much of  gap in the middle.  This shows me that the bow does have a bend 
in it.  I have tried to get the centre guide pin in first but it is too far 
away from its anchor point.  I do not think there is too much pull from the 
back of the top.  The other problem is that the vendor's new rubber seal is 
thick and fairly dense.  I have assumed that numerous other owners have 
already used it.  I am almost wishing that I had just left the top off and 
took my chances on shorter drives.  Can a guy strip the nice cloth soft top 
off without damaging it (glued)?  Larry.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" <tom at datsun2000.com>
To: "Larry Dziuba" <roadster68 at shaw.ca>; <geegc at aol.com>; 
<stebharvey at ameritech.net>; <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 10:16 AM
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] 68-70 soft top frame question


> Larry,
>
> Is there a spacer between your center clamp and the top frame?  There 
> should

From roadster68 at shaw.ca  Fri Jan 11 13:49:14 2008
From: roadster68 at shaw.ca (Larry Dziuba)
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:49:14 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: final stages of u20 install (need help)
References: <010920080016.7290.4784127300061E3C00001C7A2215578674B6AC020E03040101AB@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <008001c85493$6cfc5120$6401a8c0@useravjfzd6udp>

Hi Shaun,  I recently restored by 68 2000 and I did take some engine 
compartment photos.  Mine carb, however, is a solex mikuni.  Let me know. 
Larry.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <toolmansj2 at comcast.net>
To: "roadster list" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 5:16 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: final stages of u20 install (need help)


> -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- 
> From: toolmansj2 at comcast.net
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net (roadster list)
> Subject: final stages of u20 install (need help)
> Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:14:55 +0000
>
> I am finally getting engine components on my fresh u20, like many of us 
> here I have never seen the engine installed and operational. I bought this 
> car as a pile of 

From sprasad at tycoelectronics.com  Fri Jan 11 15:09:05 2008
From: sprasad at tycoelectronics.com (Prasad, Sunil)
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:09:05 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang dates?
In-Reply-To: <E1JDPkY-0006Os-8w@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <FBA3A7A1B71B7A4C8CCC1B3B193A634B0BE1086D@usr34mx00.tycoelectronics.net>

 This is about the 4th time I saw this question, but know answer Is
there Solvang show this year. I asked this a week ago no replies.
I need to put in my vacation for this year and I don't want to miss the
show.

I understand new personal will run the show this year, looks like slow
start We knew the dates of the show last year at this time.


Regards,
Sunil Prasad
67.7 SR20de




-----Original Message-----
From:
datsun-roadsters-bounces+sprasad=tycoelectronics.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+sprasad=tycoelectronics.com at autox.team.
net] On Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:41 AM
To: Keith0alan at aol.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Solvang dates?

Wow Keith!
Are you thinking about hitting both? What a week that would be!!! Wish I
were rich so I could join ya! If you go, I know ALL the great stuff to
do and the best surfing spots in Santa Barbara. Yes, I "know how" to
surf.
Haven't done it in several years, but it's just like riding a surf
board.
Once you know how, you never forget! HAHAHAHA.
I've spent LOTS of time in SB over the last 40+ years. (Grandpa and I
used to fish Lake Cachuma. He was County Auditor of SB County. I spent
all my summers in SB, and I grew up in Ventura County).
Here's what I figured out:
FedEx of the car (from Atlanta to Santa Barbara) is about $2000.
Airfare (American Airlines Economy Super Saver ATL-SBA) $276 Gas cost in
a roadster @ about 3.00 per gallon (20 MPG, I DO have a Solex 2000 after
all) is approx $450 if you drive, plus food, hotel, about 40-50 hours
road time, AUTO REPAIR, and down time costs while repairs are made!
Going to both... ABSOLUTELY F'n PRICELESS! (Can I stow away in your
suitcase?)

Guna be another year or two before Loreli can see the Pacific Ocean
again.
(Her previous residence was South Laguna Beach, CA).
Matt

    Looks like Solvang and Road Atlanta might not be the same weekend.
Anyone know the dates for Solvang this year?

keith williams
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From roadster68 at shaw.ca  Fri Jan 11 15:12:12 2008
From: roadster68 at shaw.ca (Larry Dziuba)
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:12:12 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] stuck hood
References: <000a01c83f3e$3c7dd1a0$36b4ab4c@owner4d7e0adce>
	<47640E7F.109@hornesystemstx.com>
Message-ID: <006601c8549f$043785e0$6401a8c0@useravjfzd6udp>

My cable is new but the housing still slips.  I end up pulling on the 
housing to open the hood.  I will have to find a better way to anchor the 
housing.  Larry.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pat Horne" <roadsters at hornesystemstx.com>
To: "Larry Braddock" <larrybraddock at ca.rr.com>
Cc: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stuck hood


> If you can get to the hood hinge bolts from underneath, take them out
> and lift the front of the hood enough to get a long hooked piece of

From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan 11 15:28:48 2008
From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff)
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:28:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang dates?
In-Reply-To: <FBA3A7A1B71B7A4C8CCC1B3B193A634B0BE1086D@usr34mx00.tycoelectronics.net>
Message-ID: <701920.39037.qm@web81701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Historically, it has been the last weekend in April.
   
  However, I'm not part of the team organizing the show, so I don't know the dates for this year.
   
  Dan Zubkoff
  Houston, TX

"Prasad, Sunil" <sprasad at tycoelectronics.com> wrote:
  This is about the 4th time I saw this question, but know answer Is
there Solvang show this year. I asked this a week ago no replies.
I need to put in my vacation for this year and I don't want to miss the
show.

I understand new personal will run the show this year, looks like slow
start We knew the dates of the show last year at this time.


Regards,
Sunil Prasad
67.7 SR20de




-----Original Message-----
From:
datsun-roadsters-bounces+sprasad=tycoelectronics.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+sprasad=tycoelectronics.com at autox.team.
net] On Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:41 AM
To: Keith0alan at aol.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Solvang dates?

Wow Keith!
Are you thinking about hitting both? What a week that would be!!! Wish I
were rich so I could join ya! If you go, I know ALL the great stuff to
do and the best surfing spots in Santa Barbara. Yes, I "know how" to
surf.
Haven't done it in several years, but it's just like riding a surf
board.
Once you know how, you never forget! HAHAHAHA.
I've spent LOTS of time in SB over the last 40+ years. (Grandpa and I
used to fish Lake Cachuma. He was County Auditor of SB County. I spent
all my summers in SB, and I grew up in Ventura County).
Here's what I figured out:
FedEx of the car (from Atlanta to Santa Barbara) is about $2000.
Airfare (American Airlines Economy Super Saver ATL-SBA) $276 Gas cost in
a roadster @ about 3.00 per gallon (20 MPG, I DO have a Solex 2000 after
all) is approx $450 if you drive, plus food, hotel, about 40-50 hours
road time, AUTO REPAIR, and down time costs while repairs are made!
Going to both... ABSOLUTELY F'n PRICELESS! (Can I stow away in your
suitcase?)

Guna be another year or two before Loreli can see the Pacific Ocean
again.
(Her previous residence was South Laguna Beach, CA).
Matt

Looks like Solvang and Road Atlanta might not be the same weekend.
Anyone know the dates for Solvang this year?

keith williams
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From mark at dealermats.com  Fri Jan 11 15:49:18 2008
From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent)
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:49:18 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang dates?
References: <FBA3A7A1B71B7A4C8CCC1B3B193A634B0BE1086D@usr34mx00.tycoelectronics.net>
Message-ID: <003501c854a4$33d13ee0$0c02a8c0@toshibauser>

I got this in November,  so I don't understand the slow start comments......


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Torres" <jtorres67 at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:27 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008


> To all the listers who were wondering. This years Solvang meet will be on
> Saturday April 26th, 2008. There will be more information soon. A website
> will be launched in January with all the event details!
>
>  Jeff and Gabby Torres
>  Lemoore, CA





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Prasad, Sunil" <sprasad at tycoelectronics.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Solvang dates?


> This is about the 4th time I saw this question, but know answer Is
> there Solvang show this year. I asked this a week ago no replies.
> I need to put in my vacation for this year and I don't want to miss the
> show.
>
> I understand new personal will run the show this year, looks like slow
> start We knew the dates of the show last year at this time.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sunil Prasad
> 67.7 SR20de 

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Jan 11 16:17:01 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:17:01 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang dates?
Message-ID: <011120082317.17666.4787F8ED000BDB57000045022207020853CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

IIRC, there was an email on this earlier this week...oh, wait...maybe it was on the 311s.org forums. DAMN CRS!!!!

Pete "hoping to make Solvang someday"

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Mark Dent" <mark at dealermats.com>
> I got this in November,  so I don't understand the slow start comments......
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeff Torres" <jtorres67 at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:27 AM
> Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008
> 
> 
> > To all the listers who were wondering. This years Solvang meet will be on
> > Saturday April 26th, 2008. There will be more information soon. A website
> > will be launched in January with all the event details!
> >
> >  Jeff and Gabby Torres
> >  Lemoore, CA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Prasad, Sunil" <sprasad at tycoelectronics.com>
> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 5:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Solvang dates?
> 
> 
> > This is about the 4th time I saw this question, but know answer Is
> > there Solvang show this year. I asked this a week ago no replies.
> > I need to put in my vacation for this year and I don't want to miss the
> > show.
> >
> > I understand new personal will run the show this year, looks like slow
> > start We knew the dates of the show last year at this time.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Sunil Prasad
> > 67.7 SR20de 
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From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Fri Jan 11 17:13:14 2008
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:13:14 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang dates?
In-Reply-To: <E1JDPkY-0006Os-8w@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <c40.279e7f89.34b10029@aol.com>
	<E1JDPkY-0006Os-8w@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <b0b0059f0801111613p3909decehde0605aaab037ec0@mail.gmail.com>

I Have been hearing that Solvang will be April 25-26, but I am still waiting
for the official word...

Chris

On Jan 11, 2008 11:41 AM, Matthew A. Smith <matthews517 at earthlink.net>
wrote:

> Wow Keith!
> Are you thinking about hitting both? What a week that would be!!! Wish I
> were rich so I could join ya! If you go, I know ALL the great stuff to do
> and the best surfing spots in Santa Barbara. Yes, I "know how" to surf.
> Haven't done it in several years, but it's just like riding a surf board.
> Once you know how, you never forget! HAHAHAHA.
> I've spent LOTS of time in SB over the last 40+ years. (Grandpa and I used
> to fish Lake Cachuma. He was County Auditor of SB County. I spent all my
> summers in SB, and I grew up in Ventura County).
> Here's what I figured out:
> FedEx of the car (from Atlanta to Santa Barbara) is about $2000.
> Airfare (American Airlines Economy Super Saver ATL-SBA) $276
> Gas cost in a roadster @ about 3.00 per gallon (20 MPG, I DO have a Solex
> 2000 after all) is approx $450 if you drive, plus food, hotel, about 40-50
> hours road time, AUTO REPAIR, and down time costs while repairs are made!
> Going to both... ABSOLUTELY F'n PRICELESS! (Can I stow away in your
> suitcase?)
>
> Guna be another year or two before Loreli can see the Pacific Ocean again.
> (Her previous residence was South Laguna Beach, CA).
> Matt
>
>    Looks like Solvang and Road Atlanta might not be the same weekend.
> Anyone know the dates for Solvang this year?
>
> keith williams
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------------------------------------------------------
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From jtorres67 at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan 11 17:48:20 2008
From: jtorres67 at sbcglobal.net (Jeff Torres)
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:48:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008
Message-ID: <238022.85845.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

To all Who Are Interested,
   
  Solvang 2008 will be the last weekend in April of 2008( April 25 &26). I have sent this e-mail out before, but I am sure everyone has not seen it. Thanks Mark for sticking up for us regarding the "slow start" comments. I just don't understand some people. Anyway, we are planning a web site for this years event and registration should start sometime in early to mid February. Please look for information about the website which will give all the important info. 
   
  Yes, this years show will be run by new "personnel" and I can assure everyone that just as much effort is being put into this show as in years past. 
   
  Jeff & Gabby Torres 
  Lemoore CA.  

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Jan 11 18:04:14 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:04:14 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang dates?
Message-ID: <011220080104.29050.4788120E000BA7780000717A2205886442CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

That's what's showing on 311s.org. Makes sense as April 25-26 is Friday-Saturday.

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" <fairlady66 at gmail.com>
> I Have been hearing that Solvang will be April 25-26, but I am still waiting
> for the official word...
> 
> Chris
> 
> On Jan 11, 2008 11:41 AM, Matthew A. Smith <matthews517 at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> 
> > Wow Keith!
> > Are you thinking about hitting both? What a week that would be!!! Wish I
> > were rich so I could join ya! If you go, I know ALL the great stuff to do
> > and the best surfing spots in Santa Barbara. Yes, I "know how" to surf.
> > Haven't done it in several years, but it's just like riding a surf board.
> > Once you know how, you never forget! HAHAHAHA.
> > I've spent LOTS of time in SB over the last 40+ years. (Grandpa and I used
> > to fish Lake Cachuma. He was County Auditor of SB County. I spent all my
> > summers in SB, and I grew up in Ventura County).
> > Here's what I figured out:
> > FedEx of the car (from Atlanta to Santa Barbara) is about $2000.
> > Airfare (American Airlines Economy Super Saver ATL-SBA) $276
> > Gas cost in a roadster @ about 3.00 per gallon (20 MPG, I DO have a Solex
> > 2000 after all) is approx $450 if you drive, plus food, hotel, about 40-50
> > hours road time, AUTO REPAIR, and down time costs while repairs are made!
> > Going to both... ABSOLUTELY F'n PRICELESS! (Can I stow away in your
> > suitcase?)
> >
> > Guna be another year or two before Loreli can see the Pacific Ocean again.
> > (Her previous residence was South Laguna Beach, CA).
> > Matt
> >
> >    Looks like Solvang and Road Atlanta might not be the same weekend.
> > Anyone know the dates for Solvang this year?
> >
> > keith williams
> >  ________________________________________
> > Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
> >
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> >
> 
> 
> 
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From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Fri Jan 11 18:54:30 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:54:30 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 68-70 soft top frame question  - dial up users,
 please don't open
In-Reply-To: <002b01c8548f$01132eb0$6401a8c0@useravjfzd6udp>
Message-ID: <E1JDVZo-0005RQ-Cb@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Larry,
This is long, but hopefully informative. 

This is MUCH easier on a vinyl top than a canvas one. It's also easier in a
WARM garage. I have canvas and don't have a garage. I wait for a warm day or
drag a 100 ft ext cord and a blow dryer out to the car.

Center guide pin is CRUCIAL to proper function and safety. I pull forward
then down on the bow to latch the center latch first, and then latch the
outer (L&R) ones. Also, I don't connect the last two "posties" or the last
"twisty" (nearest the door) until I have the front of the top latched down
tight. This gives you a little "play". I have replaced the front rubber seal
and yes, it is dense. It needs to be. I actually replaced it twice, because
I didn't CLOSELY follow the instructions for the adhesive the first time and
screwed everything up. That little lip on the "inner bow" is there to guide
you to where the seal goes, as well as weather seal the top. Air under the
front lip of the top can be DISASTEROUS. It gets easier to use over time,
and with practice, believe me.

In answer to your question, it depends on who installed the top onto the
front bow. Mine is somewhat glued (a little on the leading edge and under
the "inner bow". The front of the top is connected to the bow primarily by
way of the "inner bow" (Steel strip with several screws). If your top came
from another car, it SHOULD work. If it's a new top that was recently
attached to the frame, my only suggestion would be to make the installer fix
it. It's nearly impossible to put a new top on a frame without the car being
there. If they tried, they were wrong. I purchased a complete top/frame
combo from Craig H. and had it UPS'd to me. It had previously been on
another car and fit fine, in other words... tight!

The front of the top is more crucial to proper operation than the rear. It's
much easier to stretch a little bit at a time, to hit the posties or
twisties, than to stretch the whole front of the top at once.

Try attaching the rear bow and rear 2 twisties on either side (to avoid
rips). Then attach the front clips. Then tug and pull to get the posties and
last twisty in place. If you can't do this, your top is possibly installed
too tightly on the frame. 

I also carry a 1" C-clamp and snug down my center latch before I get on the
interstate. It gets installed in a U position, points up, since scratches on
the latch are MUCH easier to live with than no top!

It tends to "pop loose" otherwise at about 80 MPH, and scares the CRAP out
of you the first few times! Not to mention that it isn't good for the bow,
top, OR your SHORTS! 

Losing a rag top at 70-80 MPH would certainly ruin your day. Mine popped
loose on I-75 during a rain storm on the way to Mitty '06 (had extra shorts
with me, thank GOD!!). I drove very slowly to the next off-ramp where there
was a Home Depot. :-)

Finally, buy a car cover for emergencies!!! LOL!

Matt Smith

From alvingogi at hotmail.com  Sat Jan 12 01:56:29 2008
From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 08:56:29 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] 2008 San Jose Auto Show pics
Message-ID: <BLU106-W1543E2B8B9D3742F2229EAB5440@phx.gbl>

I finally saw the '09 Nissan GTR in person! Here are some pics:
http://rides.webshots.com/album/562100580nbyzfWAlvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5
SPL/SR20
_________________________________________________________________
Watch Cause Effect, a show about real people making a real difference.
http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_watchcause

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Sat Jan 12 07:17:47 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 09:17:47 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008
Message-ID: <bf9.2cdb7348.34ba260b@aol.com>

Hello Jeff and Gabbyand everyone else,
 
    As it turns out the Road Atlanta Mitty is the first  weekend in May. In 
theory I could make both. The problem is that the last couple  of years I have 
tried to do way too much in the spring. This leads to a relapse  of my CFS 
causing me to be truely miserable for about three to four months.  Several folks 
are encouraging me to see if I can get through this year without a  big crash 
and burn. I wish I could make both as they are both such a good time.  The 
plan is to do Atlanta this year and Solvang next year. I plan to fly into  
Atlanta about Monday so I can rest up a couple of days before the event. It  would 
be nice to get together and check out some of the local roadsters.
 
    I will be at Shasta, hope to see you there.
 
keith williams
 
 
In a message dated 1/11/2008 4:48:52 PM Pacific Standard Time,  
jtorres67 at sbcglobal.net writes:

To all  Who Are Interested,

Solvang 2008 will be the last  weekend in April of 2008( April 25 &26). I 
have sent this e-mail out  before, but I am sure everyone has not seen it. Thanks 
Mark for sticking up  for us regarding the "slow start" comments. I just 
don't understand some  people. Anyway, we are planning a web site for this years 
event and  registration should start sometime in early to mid February. Please 
look for  information about the website which will give all the important 
info.  

Yes, this years show will be run by new  "personnel" and I can assure 
everyone that just as much effort is being put  into this show as in years past. 

Jeff & Gabby  Torres 
Lemoore CA.  







**************Start the year off right.  Easy ways to stay in shape.     
http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Sat Jan 12 10:52:01 2008
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 09:52:01 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Combustion chamber article
Message-ID: <002101c85543$d67c4fa0$ba3ecf18@Daryl>

An interesting read for anyone building an engine....
http://www.kb-silvolite.com/article.php?action=read&A_id=4

From larrybraddock at ca.rr.com  Sat Jan 12 15:06:42 2008
From: larrybraddock at ca.rr.com (Larry  Braddock)
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 14:06:42 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] top
Message-ID: <000c01c85567$6a1ee060$36b4ab4c@owner4d7e0adce>

Larry

When I 1st got my 2000 I had the same or similiar problem.
Ensure that the "accordian" arms of the frame are FULLY extended. The last
little bit of extension twists the bow forward quite a bit, bringing the
center latch closer.

Larry Braddock

From tom at datsun2000.com  Sat Jan 12 16:20:23 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:20:23 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 68-70 soft top frame question  - dial up users,
 please don't open
In-Reply-To: <E1JDVZo-0005RQ-Cb@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGMEPNDDAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 5:55 PM
To: 'Larry Dziuba'; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 68-70 soft top frame question - dial up users,
please don't open






>> I also carry a 1" C-clamp and snug down my center latch before I get on
the
interstate. It gets installed in a U position, points up, since scratches on
the latch are MUCH easier to live with than no top!

I played around with all three of the windshield clamps when the top shop
forgot to put the spacer back in the center clamp.  After making a new
center spacer (Shasta was too close to wait for them to open) and playing
with the gap by adding and removing washers I finally found a spacing that
allowed me to clamp the top frame down and it did not pop off.  The problem
then was the side clamps.  Figuring what was good for the gander is good for
the goose I made thin spacers for each side clamp made things much more
reliable.  I have hit some solid bumps without popping the clamps off of the
windshield.  They are now solid, easy to clamp and release, and do not
rattle at all.

To clamp the top I start with the outside clamps and the center clamp lines
up without any problem.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Sat Jan 12 20:11:31 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 22:11:31 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 68-70 soft top frame question  - dial up  users,
 please don't open
In-Reply-To: <E1JDVZo-0005RQ-Cb@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <000001c85591$ffa484d0$6400a8c0@chrissy>

Were it me, I would get the top to line up and clamp properly without the
weatherstrip, and then try with it.  If you paid someone to install this,
let them deal with it or get a refund.
I don't know how much the seal would affect clamping of the top, unless it
was so thick the clamp never really can get proper tension. I'm sure every
car varies, but my 69 has no seal at all, and the top clamps tight and stays
tight.  Fastest speed with the top up was maybe 80-85 mph with no seal, and
on another day  I was doing 65-70 in violent thunder storm with probably 40
- 45 mph winds from variable directions,   I had a rolled up paper shop
towel as a seal and it wasn't tight in there at all, top never moved or
popped a clamp. Didn't get wet either,love the low tech stuff. Over a really
bad bump, one of the side clamps might pop, but they are not under a lot of
tension.
 Any over-center clamp will work properly if at the "hard spot" before it
flips and locks there is zero slack.  It can't flip back through it. The
locating pin is important to achieve this, as fore and aft alignment will
affect the latch, especially if the top is too far forward in relation to
the windshield.

Now this may all change for me when I put the weatherstrip in if it really
is that thick.



Dave Brisco


-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew A. Smith [mailto:matthews517 at earthlink.net]


Larry,
This is long, but hopefully informative.......

From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan 12 22:19:54 2008
From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff)
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:19:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] SPL212 - Reunion (Seperated at birth)
Message-ID: <984820.25642.qm@web81714.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

This was a special roadster weekend in Houston, Tx. 
   
  Back in 1960, the very first SPL212 Fairlady Roadster was sold in the United States. It was a pink roadster with a VIN SPL212-00198 & was nicknamed Sakura. 

This weekend a very nice family drove their 1960 SPL212-00203 to my home in Katy, Texas to be reunited with my car a 1960 SPL212-00206. These cars were only three VIN numbers apart!! It is believed that #203 may be the 6th Fairlady sold and #206 is the 9th. 

Here are a few photos of the very happy reunion. 

  http://www.311s.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7179
   
  Dan Zubkoff
  Katy, TX

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Sun Jan 13 09:03:40 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:03:40 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] My winter(with Roadster content!)-
In-Reply-To: <001701c85068$19336a80$4b9a3f80$@net>
Message-ID: <E1JE5JG-0005cn-3D@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi Guys,
Chattanooga, TN 12/31/07 - Took a very nice leisurely drive in Loreli into
the hills above the city (Signal Mountain) with the top down and wearing a
t-shirt and shorts. LOVED IT!!!
Chattanooga, TN 1/2/08 - Scraped ice off the windshield. High 29 - Low 19 -
minus 4 with wind chill.
Chattanooga, TN 1/7/08 - 70 degrees and sunny.
Chattanooga, TN 1/12/08 - Slipped and fell on the ice while walking my dog.
HAHAHAHA!!! 
Good God! I may need to move back to SoCal if this keeps up!!!  :-)
Matt


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:29 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] My winter(with Roadster content!)-

  The snow is melting and it should hit 60+ tomorrow!  I'll be in Plain City
pulling the motor out of a '69 2000.  It hasn't run since the early '70s,
but the owner is ready to go riding again.

Paul
Ohio

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 8:04 PM
To: tminerpcav at aol.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [PHISH][Roadsters] My winter(with Roadster content!)--was Stay Safe
in CA!!

---->P.S. How cold is it in Belleville?<----- Tim Miner

Upper 30s today. Warmer tomorrow and possibly warmer yet next week. We are
just starting our annual mid winter warm up--annual for the past 10 years or
so anyway. At one point this weekend the forecast for Tuesday was 50. 48
ours ago the low was -6!

We may lose the snow, which is bad for the alfalfa crop as it needs the snow
cover to prevent over winter freeze damage. On the other hand--Roadster
content here: if it is nice enough, I will take one of the Roadsters out as
long as the road salt is washed away. But then again, I have yet to replace
any of the rusted panels so more salt damage is hard to do....

Hmmmm...top down in January. Might bring a whole new meaning to the "Polar
Bear Plunge".  ;-)

Getting closer to having all the pieces for a restoration!

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- tminerpcav at aol.com wrote: 

=============
Yes it is raining pretty good, and it's getting cold (about 55 degrees!)!

Tim Miner

P.S. How cold is it in Belleville?


---- Original Message ----
From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 5:28 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Stay safe in CA!!



Hope as is well and stays well in CA!! That is one big ass storm you all are
in 
the middle of right now. Already 1,000,000 people with out power. Holy Shit.

Stay safe all!

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Sun Jan 13 10:51:42 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:51:42 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Emblem question
Message-ID: <E1JE6zl-0002ta-9Z@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi All,

Does anyone know if the slanted "DATSUN" emblem for an early 240Z has the
same mounting pin locations as the un-slanted "DATSUN" emblem for a 70 SRL?
This is for the fender. I lost one just before Thanksgiving while ripping
thru the North Georgia Mountains on a Turkey Run with the Georgia Triumph
Association, and think I'd like to do something a little different when I
replace it. Now THAT'S some lateral G forces!!! 

Thanks,

Matt Smith

From sprasad at tycoelectronics.com  Sun Jan 13 19:56:14 2008
From: sprasad at tycoelectronics.com (Prasad, Sunil)
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:56:14 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008
In-Reply-To: <238022.85845.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FBA3A7A1B71B7A4C8CCC1B3B193A634B0BE10D41@usr34mx00.tycoelectronics.net>

Looks like I wasn't the only one who wanted to know about the show but
its ok no harm

May be I missed the posting but, it came up agan couple of time but no
one on the list replayed to it. Looks like lots of people were not sure,
one harmless comment, I am the bad guy.
I don't think I meant harm to any one but, I understand sometimes when
things are starting with new personals they are busy to make the show
the same or even better and they don't have time to replay to everyone's
e-mail. In the past we got response fast so if people had to plan early
the can. A simple e-mail would have been fine.

Thanks to everyone who replayed on the dates, and the person who is
running the show this year good luck I did not mean any harm I don't
even know you yet but the comments I got from you or your group, show's
me it doesn't take much to make you mad and that kind of attitude is not
good to run a big show like this. Sorry and hope you going to put up a
great show

I am sorry if I hurt anyone's feeling I always plan for Solvang early
but know, I will thing twice and if I make it than I will.

Sorry, and enjoy the show.








-----Original Message-----
From:
datsun-roadsters-bounces+sprasad=tycoelectronics.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+sprasad=tycoelectronics.com at autox.team.
net] On Behalf Of Jeff Torres
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 4:48 PM
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008

To all Who Are Interested,

  Solvang 2008 will be the last weekend in April of 2008( April 25 &26).
I have sent this e-mail out before, but I am sure everyone has not seen
it. Thanks Mark for sticking up for us regarding the "slow start"
comments. I just don't understand some people. Anyway, we are planning a
web site for this years event and registration should start sometime in
early to mid February. Please look for information about the website
which will give all the important info.

  Yes, this years show will be run by new "personnel" and I can assure
everyone that just as much effort is being put into this show as in
years past.

  Jeff & Gabby Torres
  Lemoore CA.
You are subscribed as sprasad at tycoelectronics.com

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From tminerpcav at aol.com  Sun Jan 13 22:27:40 2008
From: tminerpcav at aol.com (tminerpcav at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 00:27:40 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008
In-Reply-To: <FBA3A7A1B71B7A4C8CCC1B3B193A634B0BE10D41@usr34mx00.tycoelectronics.net>
Message-ID: <8CA248550EA2D8C-91C-2681@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com>

Hey Sunil,



Why don't you wait and see what kind of show that Jeff Torres and his group puts on before you make comments about?the "ATTITUDE".? 

I think you might have ruffled feathers yet again with your apology. 

Nice goin'.

Tim Miner


---- Original Message ----
From: Prasad, Sunil <sprasad at tycoelectronics.com>
To: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 6:56 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008




Looks like I wasn't the only one who wanted to know about the show but
its ok no harm

May be I missed the posting but, it came up agan couple of time but no
one on the list replayed to it. Looks like lots of people were not sure,
one harmless comment, I am the bad guy.
I don't think I meant harm to any one but, I understand sometimes when
things are starting with new personals they are busy to make the show
the same or even better and they don't have time to replay to everyone's
e-mail. In the past we got response fast so if people had to plan early
the can. A simple e-mail would have been fine.

Thanks to everyone who replayed on the dates, and the person who is
running the show this year good luck I did not mean any harm I don't
even know you yet but the comments I got from you or your group, show's
me it doesn't take much to make you mad and that kind of attitude is not
good to run a big show like this. Sorry and hope you going to put up a
great show

I am sorry if I hurt anyone's feeling I always plan for Solvang early
but know, I will thing twice and if I make it than I will.

Sorry, and enjoy the show.








-----Original Message-----
From:
datsun-roadsters-bounces+sprasad=tycoelectronics.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+sprasad=tycoelectronics.com at autox.team.
net] On Behalf Of Jeff Torres
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 4:48 PM
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008

To all Who Are Interested,

  Solvang 2008 will be the last weekend in April of 2008( April 25 &26).
I have sent this e-mail out before, but I am sure everyone has not seen
it. Thanks Mark for sticking up for us regarding the "slow start"
comments. I just don't understand some people. Anyway, we are planning a
web site for this years event and registration should start sometime in
early to mid February. Please look for information about the website
which will give all the important info.

  Yes, this years show will be run by new "personnel" and I can assure
everyone that just as much effort is being put into this show as in
years past.

  Jeff & Gabby Torres
  Lemoore CA.
You are subscribed as sprasad at tycoelectronics.com

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From tputland at charter.net  Mon Jan 14 05:01:49 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 4:01:49 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008
In-Reply-To: <8CA248550EA2D8C-91C-2681@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <20080114070149.TIUVW.103498.root@fepweb15>

Amen Tim. I was thinking the same thing as I read his post.


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- tminerpcav at aol.com wrote: 

=============
Hey Sunil,



Why don't you wait and see what kind of show that Jeff Torres and his group puts on before you make comments about?the "ATTITUDE".? 

I think you might have ruffled feathers yet again with your apology. 

Nice goin'.

Tim Miner


---- Original Message ----
From: Prasad, Sunil <sprasad at tycoelectronics.com>
To: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 6:56 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008




Looks like I wasn't the only one who wanted to know about the show but
its ok no harm

May be I missed the posting but, it came up agan couple of time but no
one on the list replayed to it. Looks like lots of people were not sure,
one harmless comment, I am the bad guy.
I don't think I meant harm to any one but, I understand sometimes when
things are starting with new personals they are busy to make the show
the same or even better and they don't have time to replay to everyone's
e-mail. In the past we got response fast so if people had to plan early
the can. A simple e-mail would have been fine.

Thanks to everyone who replayed on the dates, and the person who is
running the show this year good luck I did not mean any harm I don't
even know you yet but the comments I got from you or your group, show's
me it doesn't take much to make you mad and that kind of attitude is not
good to run a big show like this. Sorry and hope you going to put up a
great show

I am sorry if I hurt anyone's feeling I always plan for Solvang early
but know, I will thing twice and if I make it than I will.

Sorry, and enjoy the show.








-----Original Message-----
From:
datsun-roadsters-bounces+sprasad=tycoelectronics.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+sprasad=tycoelectronics.com at autox.team.
net] On Behalf Of Jeff Torres
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 4:48 PM
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008

To all Who Are Interested,

  Solvang 2008 will be the last weekend in April of 2008( April 25 &26).
I have sent this e-mail out before, but I am sure everyone has not seen
it. Thanks Mark for sticking up for us regarding the "slow start"
comments. I just don't understand some people. Anyway, we are planning a
web site for this years event and registration should start sometime in
early to mid February. Please look for information about the website
which will give all the important info.

  Yes, this years show will be run by new "personnel" and I can assure
everyone that just as much effort is being put into this show as in
years past.

  Jeff & Gabby Torres
  Lemoore CA.
You are subscribed as sprasad at tycoelectronics.com

From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Mon Jan 14 06:54:22 2008
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:54:22 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Soft top frame 'accordion', FunRun with GA Triumph group
Message-ID: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D44834E@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>

First topic: soft top frame 'accordion'.
I agree with Larry on making sure the top scissor-arms are fully
extended.
When I first bought my car, the bow had a kink in the sheet metal, which
I had reworked by a pro. (thanks Les)
Being of the 'prefer to bundle up, rarely put up the top' breed, I
always wondered why sometimes it was REALLY hard to get it to latch, and
other times real easy.  Sometimes when it was difficult, I would just
take it all the way down and put it back, up, and then it was easy.  (I
am not a good, or lucky, mechanic, so a lot of my repairs seem to follow
this route!)
Anyway, what I finally realized was that the scissor-arm mechanisms over
the tops of the doors were binding up a bit, and found one particular
pair (one per side) that when I squeezed them, the top moved forward and
assumed a different angle, and allowed me to latch the center latch.
I have never heard of nor seen a spacer in any of the latches, and I
sure don't have one.
I did put velcro strips underneath the top latche when I bolted them on
(don't remember who recommended this, but many thanks for this tip), so
that they are latched shut when the top is up as well as latched quiet
when the top is down.
I have pics of these if anyone wants, but they are just a simple 4"
strip from the fabric store, that you bind the latch shut.

Second topic:
Matt Smith wrote:
<<  I lost one just before Thanksgiving while ripping thru the North
Georgia Mountains on a Turkey Run with the Georgia Triumph
Association,..>>
Cool!  But, inquiring minds want to know, at the end of the run, how
long did you have to wait for them to catch up?!

Fergus O

From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov  Mon Jan 14 08:04:29 2008
From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03))
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:04:29 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] 63 Datsun Pickup
Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF764BBA89@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>

Hey all -

My son is going to look at this pickup today (see link for craigslist)
in Hawaii.  Any advice on a good price and what transmission does it
use?

http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/car/536002416.html

Phil Hall
NASA/MSFC/ED03
Systems Engineering
work :        256-544-2525
cell:           256-698-4388 (new)

From jklingman at stny.rr.com  Mon Jan 14 11:59:36 2008
From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:59:36 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] looking for Craig Halsted
Message-ID: <000f01c856df$9b957c20$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>

Been trying to email Craig Halsted , mail comes back. ??Need to buy real nice
2000 grille for Spike.
  Gloria and John Klingman
   Sidney, NY '68 2000 aka Spike

From toolmansj2 at comcast.net  Mon Jan 14 12:55:15 2008
From: toolmansj2 at comcast.net (toolmansj2 at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:55:15 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Need a part
Message-ID: <011420081955.4227.478BBE2200093CB6000010832216525806B6AC020E03040101AB@comcast.net>

Does any one have the fuel hose bracket that mounts on the front of the chain inspection cover that they can spare also would like to have the engine lifting hooks. Let me know and I'll gladly pay you for them.
Thanks Shaun

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Mon Jan 14 13:20:56 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:20:56 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] 63 Datsun Pickup
Message-ID: <011420082020.4914.478BC428000DAB7D000013322213575333CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

That's an L320 and looks in pretty good shape. Being a '63, it's probably the 1200cc E-series engine. I'm not sure what tranny it'll have. Good places to ask are:

Ratsun.net
Old Datsun Pickup Lovers
EarlyDatsunClub (a Yahoo Group)

Cheers.

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)" <Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov>
> Hey all -
> 
> My son is going to look at this pickup today (see link for craigslist)
> in Hawaii.  Any advice on a good price and what transmission does it
> use?
> 
> http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/car/536002416.html
> 
> Phil Hall
> NASA/MSFC/ED03
> Systems Engineering
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Mon Jan 14 13:49:09 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:49:09 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] 63 Datsun Pickup
Message-ID: <011420082049.16431.478BCAC5000710D40000402F2200750744CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

More info.....appears nearly all L320's came with a 4-speed shifted on the column. Granny low and a 4.88 rear end. 

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net
> That's an L320 and looks in pretty good shape. Being a '63, it's probably the 
> 1200cc E-series engine. I'm not sure what tranny it'll have. Good places to ask 
> are:
> 
> Ratsun.net
> Old Datsun Pickup Lovers
> EarlyDatsunClub (a Yahoo Group)
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> Pete
> 
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)" <Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov>
> > Hey all -
> > 
> > My son is going to look at this pickup today (see link for craigslist)
> > in Hawaii.  Any advice on a good price and what transmission does it
> > use?
> > 
> > http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/car/536002416.html
> > 
> > Phil Hall
> > NASA/MSFC/ED03
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From matt at vander-bend.com  Mon Jan 14 13:54:49 2008
From: matt at vander-bend.com (Matt Jacquet)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:54:49 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 63 Datsun Pickup
In-Reply-To: <011420082049.16431.478BCAC5000710D40000402F2200750744CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <HNECKPAGNKALIACELFFPAENKCBAA.matt@vander-bend.com>

65 has a 4 speed on the floor
Matt :)


-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 63 Datsun Pickup


More info.....appears nearly all L320's came with a 4-speed shifted on the
column. Granny low and a 4.88 rear end.

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net
> That's an L320 and looks in pretty good shape. Being a '63, it's probably
the
> 1200cc E-series engine. I'm not sure what tranny it'll have. Good places
to ask
> are:
>
> Ratsun.net
> Old Datsun Pickup Lovers
> EarlyDatsunClub (a Yahoo Group)
>
> Cheers.
>
> Pete
>
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)" <Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov>
> > Hey all -
> >
> > My son is going to look at this pickup today (see link for craigslist)
> > in Hawaii.  Any advice on a good price and what transmission does it
> > use?
> >
> > http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/car/536002416.html
> >
> > Phil Hall
> > NASA/MSFC/ED03
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Mon Jan 14 14:01:55 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:01:55 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] 63 Datsun Pickup
Message-ID: <011420082101.26533.478BCDC300026213000067A52200735834CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

That's why I said "...nearly all..." <g>  Yeah, only the '65 L320's got the floor shifter.

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Matt Jacquet" <matt at vander-bend.com>
> 65 has a 4 speed on the floor
> Matt :)
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com at autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of ppeters914 at comcast.net
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 12:49 PM
> To: Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03); Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 63 Datsun Pickup
> 
> 
> More info.....appears nearly all L320's came with a 4-speed shifted on the
> column. Granny low and a 4.88 rear end.
> 
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: ppeters914 at comcast.net
> > That's an L320 and looks in pretty good shape. Being a '63, it's probably
> the
> > 1200cc E-series engine. I'm not sure what tranny it'll have. Good places
> to ask
> > are:
> >
> > Ratsun.net
> > Old Datsun Pickup Lovers
> > EarlyDatsunClub (a Yahoo Group)
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Pete
> >
> >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)" <Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov>
> > > Hey all -
> > >
> > > My son is going to look at this pickup today (see link for craigslist)
> > > in Hawaii.  Any advice on a good price and what transmission does it
> > > use?
> > >
> > > http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/car/536002416.html
> > >
> > > Phil Hall
> > > NASA/MSFC/ED03
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From jklingman at stny.rr.com  Mon Jan 14 21:47:45 2008
From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:47:45 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Thank you
Message-ID: <000c01c85731$c598f950$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>

Thank you everybody for taking the time to send us Craig's email. I have sent
a dozen letters and they bounced. I sent one tonight by clicking on a link.
Hope he gets it. Craig found Spike for us and we have a lot of parts from him.
He is a great guy to do business with, very up front and fair and
knowledgeable, but more importantly he is a dear friend and we were worried.
  Gloria and John Klingman
   Sidney NY '68 2000 aka Spike

From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Tue Jan 15 12:11:53 2008
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:11:53 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Alternate replacement windshield idea
Message-ID: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D471AE1@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>

Short of a winshield frame and cowl transplant, here's another idea for
our fortunate friend Richard Brown, after his elk-counter (encounter)

http://www.callawaycars.com/callaway/main/contentpages/images/c164.jpg

Not sure how safe I'd feel in this without wearing a helmet, but that
brings up the all-too-familiar helmet law discussion, and I ain't going
there.

From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan 15 12:26:03 2008
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:26:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Alternate replacement windshield idea
In-Reply-To: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D471AE1@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
Message-ID: <235155.81026.qm@web81412.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Do any of our "Down Under" Roadster buffs have  roo bars on their roadsters - or any of their other cars? What I'm envisioning is a heavy-duty roo bar arrangement, with rollcage-like extensions to deflect the elk/deer, etc. up and over the passenger compartment w/o damaging any hard-to-replace components such as windshield, frame or Roadster owner...  ;^)

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

"O'Farrell, Fergus" <Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com> wrote: Short of a winshield frame and cowl transplant, here's another idea for
our fortunate friend Richard Brown, after his elk-counter (encounter)

http://www.callawaycars.com/callaway/main/contentpages/images/c164.jpg

Not sure how safe I'd feel in this without wearing a helmet, but that
brings up the all-too-familiar helmet law discussion, and I ain't going
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From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com  Tue Jan 15 12:26:17 2008
From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:26:17 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Alternate replacement windshield idea
In-Reply-To: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D471AE1@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
References: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D471AE1@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
Message-ID: <478D08D9.1050808@hornesystemstx.com>

While in Southern Japan in the early 70s I knew a fellow who lived off 
base that wore a full helmet while driving his 4 door Toyota off base. 
Yes, the locals drove wildly, but I thought he was overacting a bit!

Helmet laws keep nature from cleaning out the shallow end of the gene 
pool. (Don't remember where I heard that!)

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake O'Farrell, Fergus:
> Short of a winshield frame and cowl transplant, here's another idea for
> our fortunate friend Richard Brown, after his elk-counter (encounter)
>
> http://www.callawaycars.com/callaway/main/contentpages/images/c164.jpg
>
> Not sure how safe I'd feel in this without wearing a helmet, but that
> brings up the all-too-familiar helmet law discussion, and I ain't going
> there.
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From tputland at charter.net  Tue Jan 15 14:23:01 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:23:01 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster on Craig's list
Message-ID: <20080115162301.7Z713.949108.root@fepweb08>

Not mine...any one on the list? Listing says Indianapolis but I found it under the Madison, WI pages... Can't say I like that color very much though.

http://madison.craigslist.org/car/534495953.html


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From fairlady at bigpond.com  Tue Jan 15 16:32:46 2008
From: fairlady at bigpond.com (Phill Brook)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:32:46 +1100
Subject: [Roadsters] Alternate replacement windshield idea
In-Reply-To: <235155.81026.qm@web81412.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <235155.81026.qm@web81412.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <269C79FB-9CCC-4988-BAD4-07996BFC563D@bigpond.com>

I've seen a few nudge bars but no roo bars on Aussie roadsters.
Unless you catch them mid-jump, kangaroo damage is usually below
windscreen height.  An Aussie driving hint: never it a wombat, it
will take out your whole front end.

I don't know if any of you guys (and gals) have seen the Renault
Spider. The normal version had a windscreen but the motorsport
version had an interesting air diverter on the cowl, that directed a
wall of air about where the screen would be, which stopped lot of
buffeting and bugs (no buffett of bugs :-) )

Wikipedia entry with a pics: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Spider

Phil B

On 16/01/2008, at 6:26 AM, Gary McCormick wrote:

> Do any of our "Down Under" Roadster buffs have  roo bars on
> their roadsters - or any of their other cars? What I'm envisioning
> is a heavy-duty roo bar arrangement, with rollcage-like extensions
> to deflect the elk/deer, etc. up and over the passenger compartment
> w/o damaging any hard-to-replace components such as windshield,
> frame or Roadster owner...  ;^)
>
> Gary McCormick
> San Jose, CA
>
> "O'Farrell, Fergus" <Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com> wrote: Short of a
> winshield frame and cowl transplant, here's another idea for
> our fortunate friend Richard Brown, after his elk-counter (encounter)
>
> http://www.callawaycars.com/callaway/main/contentpages/images/c164.jpg

From BARTERDUDE at aol.com  Tue Jan 15 19:48:26 2008
From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:48:26 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] Advise on transplant
Message-ID: <c2f.27bf106b.34beca7a@aol.com>

Wondering who in the roadster world has done a 2L transplant into a  
Fairlady?  Decided to upgrade the HP to a 2L from the 1500 and wondering if  there are 
some insights that can be shared?  Just picked up a relatively  nice '68 2L 
drive train and at the threshold of the new adventure.
 
Advise greatly appreciated.
 
Gary Lasater  - Parker CO
founding member _www.wycroc.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 
1963 SPL310-300161C
1963  SPL310-300289B
1964 SPL310-01289
1970 SRL311-12536
1970  SPL311-28169



**************Start the year off right.  Easy ways to stay in shape.     
http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Jan 15 20:33:08 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:33:08 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster on Craig's list
In-Reply-To: <20080115162301.7Z713.949108.root@fepweb08>
Message-ID: <001b01c857f0$836a04b0$6501a8c0@xp>

Dunno if he's on the list, but it's David Peay's from Indiana:

<http://www.311s.org/registry/1968/spl311-20552.html>

Maybe they don't have craiglist in Indiana and/or he didn't want to sell it
locally. <g>

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:23 PM
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster on Craig's list


Not mine...any one on the list? Listing says Indianapolis but I found it
under the Madison, WI pages... Can't say I like that color very much though.

http://madison.craigslist.org/car/534495953.html


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Wed Jan 16 06:51:44 2008
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:51:44 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Faux XK120 roadster on ebay
Message-ID: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D471E93@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>

And on a completely different note, this is an intereting idea.
(should have done something more 'retro' with the gauges, and not sure
the fender mirrors look anywhere close to what this model had
originally, and shoulda spent a couple hundred making the engine
compartment a bit cleaner, and the soft top is quite fugly)

Ebay item:  230212306876

From djp4 at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 16 07:45:06 2008
From: djp4 at sbcglobal.net (DAVID J. PEAY)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:45:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster on Craig's list
In-Reply-To: <001b01c857f0$836a04b0$6501a8c0@xp>
Message-ID: <744504.67799.qm@web80713.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

My Roadster is on several Craigslistings..This week in Madison, WI--Raleigh, NC, Indianapolis & Cincinnati, OH..Price $9968  I have close to $13000.00 invested but mostly my error in not knowing about the Datsun website earlier, although I purchased many parts from Dean in California...Just recently got serious about selling my car due to health and the ability of my wife and myself to get in and out of the car.
  NOTE to Madison: the reason I listed there was due to a card and a note that Bill Wessel of the Madison Sports Car Club left under my wiper at Indy Raceway Park, "beautiful car".
  Any assistance or leads to sell my "Green Hornet" will be appreciated
  Thanks to all...Indydatsun..Dave 

Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
  Dunno if he's on the list, but it's David Peay's from Indiana:



Maybe they don't have craiglist in Indiana and/or he didn't want to sell it
locally. 

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:23 PM
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster on Craig's list


Not mine...any one on the list? Listing says Indianapolis but I found it
under the Madison, WI pages... Can't say I like that color very much though.

http://madison.craigslist.org/car/534495953.html


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning
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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Wed Jan 16 07:50:47 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:50:47 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Faux XK120 roadster on ebay
In-Reply-To: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D471E93@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
References: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D471E93@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
Message-ID: <000101c8584f$31c11fe0$95435fa0$@net>

  Too bad he didn't start with a Supra's straight 6 cyliinder!  Good idea,
just didn't think it through well enough.

Paul
Ohio

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of O'Farrell, Fergus
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:52 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Faux XK120 roadster on ebay

And on a completely different note, this is an intereting idea.
(should have done something more 'retro' with the gauges, and not sure
the fender mirrors look anywhere close to what this model had
originally, and shoulda spent a couple hundred making the engine
compartment a bit cleaner, and the soft top is quite fugly)

Ebay item:  230212306876

From Ken.Smart at csiro.au  Wed Jan 16 15:20:58 2008
From: Ken.Smart at csiro.au (Ken.Smart at csiro.au)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 09:20:58 +1100
Subject: [Roadsters] Alternate replacement windshield idea - OT: roo bars
Message-ID: <48DE7C72BF55C345A4E1E60CA37CFB2A0164700B@exnswn1-syd.nexus.csiro.au>

This is off topic.....

"It is estimated that at least 20,000 kangaroo/vehicle collisions occur
on Australian roads each year. The hazards of kangaroo strike range from
cosmetic vehicle damage to occupant injury, and vehicle immobilisation
presents a real concern to drivers in remote areas."

Roo bars or bull bars are probably equally divided between rural/country
vehicles and Range Rovers And other SUVs in the cities that never go off
road in their life.
Here are a couple of indicative photos I found on the web.

New ones or ones built for new cars look like this and must comply with
Australian design rules regarding protruding objects and not interfering
with air bags etc.
http://www.blueys.com.au/acc_bullbars.htm

On older cars there are less design rules and no air bags this is a
typical rural ute with what is termed a 5 post roo bar (5 vertical
posts) they can be 4" or even 5" tube generally raked forward a little
(very bad for pedestrians!) so the roo goes under the vehicle? and can
normally take about 4 or hits before replacement or a major rebuild
depending on the size of roo and where you hit it.
http://www.blueys.com.au/poorbastard17.htm

To go off topic even further (sorry) there is even a Feral class of ute
http://www.abc.net.au/northqld/stories/s1101014.htm

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ken.smart=csiro.au at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ken.smart=csiro.au at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Phill Brook
Sent: Wednesday, 16 January 2008 10:33 AM
To: Gary McCormick
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; O'Farrell,Fergus
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Alternate replacement windshield idea

I've seen a few nudge bars but no roo bars on Aussie roadsters.
Unless you catch them mid-jump, kangaroo damage is usually below
windscreen height.  An Aussie driving hint: never it a wombat, it will
take out your whole front end.

I don't know if any of you guys (and gals) have seen the Renault Spider.
The normal version had a windscreen but the motorsport version had an
interesting air diverter on the cowl, that directed a wall of air about
where the screen would be, which stopped lot of buffeting and bugs (no
buffett of bugs :-) )

Wikipedia entry with a pics: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Spider

Phil B

On 16/01/2008, at 6:26 AM, Gary McCormick wrote:

> Do any of our "Down Under" Roadster buffs have  roo bars on their
> roadsters - or any of their other cars? What I'm envisioning is a
> heavy-duty roo bar arrangement, with rollcage-like extensions to
> deflect the elk/deer, etc. up and over the passenger compartment w/o
> damaging any hard-to-replace components such as windshield, frame or
> Roadster owner...  ;^)
>
> Gary McCormick
> San Jose, CA
>
> "O'Farrell, Fergus" <Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com> wrote: Short of a
> winshield frame and cowl transplant, here's another idea for our
> fortunate friend Richard Brown, after his elk-counter (encounter)
>
> http://www.callawaycars.com/callaway/main/contentpages/images/c164.jpg

From funkaholik at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 16 23:51:25 2008
From: funkaholik at yahoo.com (Erik Miller)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:51:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Collector Car Market Review: Datsun Roadster
Message-ID: <889980.97016.qm@web90606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Our little cars are featured in the Feb 08 issue of Collector Car Market Review.  There is a one page "Market Snapshot" article on page 64.  Article covers the basics, changes throughout the years, a market value graph for 1994 to 2007, lists some recent auction prices and for sale asking prices. Interestingly, the rarity of the 67 2000 is never mentioned.  Oh, and the subtitle for the article?  "The Japanese MG"   Ouch.

Tried scanning and posting it, but that didn't work out.  If anyone out there is more computer savvy than me and can tell me the best way to scan a magazine page with pictures and tiny text, and keep it legible and a relatively small file size, maybe I'll be more successful.


  Erik Miller
 1970 SPL311-29945
 


       
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From tom at datsun2000.com  Thu Jan 17 00:37:17 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:37:17 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] NOWROC Forum & Out of Date E-Mail Addresses
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGIEANDEAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

NOWROC.org has added a forum for NOWROC members to get together to plan and
announce events in the large region covered by NOWROC.  It is hoped that
members will be able to learn what others want to do as a group and we can
build both activities and participation while we meet new owners.

I sent out an e-mail announcing the forum page to the members I have e-mail
addresses for and quickly found out that many of the e-mail addresses I have
are out of date.  Probably 30% came back.  If you are a member and did not
receive an e-mail please send me an update and I will change the web site
and my mailing list.  If you would like to join NOWROC go to the join page
and fill out the form.

While I don't want or expect this forum to compete with the 311s forum, all
roadster owners are welcome to join.  This is an un-moderated forum for now
and I hope it stays that way.  If you have suggestions for changes to
improve the forum let me know and I will be happy to make the changes.

http://www.nowroc.org/forum

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
92 SC400 - Dr. Jeckle
Portland
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http://www.datsun2000.com

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fun!"

From geegc at aol.com  Thu Jan 17 09:41:49 2008
From: geegc at aol.com (geegc at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:41:49 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 Solex Carb expert, rebuilder?
In-Reply-To: <889980.97016.qm@web90606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <889980.97016.qm@web90606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CA273EFDA8E976-838-55@webmailbeta-m01.sysops.aol.com>

My 2000 Solex carbs (old style) are making Skip Miller in Pasadena crazy, he can't get the front one to work properly.? Anyone know an expert in the Los Angeles area to deal with it, or have a front one that works to sell to me, or have some other ideas?

Or does someone have a manifold, linkage, air cleaner?and set of 2000 SUs to sell?

Gary C
68 2000 solex
66 1600
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From funkaholik at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 17 10:12:40 2008
From: funkaholik at yahoo.com (Erik Miller)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 09:12:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Collector Car Article Scanned
Message-ID: <12797.90156.qm@web90612.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

OK!  Scanned the Collector Car Market Review article as a picture (thanks, slowboy!) and now its up on my photobucket account. Quality is still not great, but its readable...

http://s104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/funkaholik/?action=view&current=scan0002.jpg

Enjoy!


  Erik Miller
 1970 SPL311-29945
 


       
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From BARTERDUDE at aol.com  Thu Jan 17 13:30:08 2008
From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:30:08 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] Collector Car Article Scanned
Message-ID: <cf2.24f56463.34c114d0@aol.com>

I beg to differ, the article should read that the MG is the European  Datsun. 
 The roadster came out a year before the MG-B.
 
Gary Lasater  - Parker CO
founding member _www.wycroc.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 
1963 SPL310-300161C
1963  SPL310-300289B
1964 SPL310-01289
1970 SRL311-12536
1970  SPL311-28169
 
 
In a message dated 1/17/2008 10:13:05 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
funkaholik at yahoo.com writes:

OK!  Scanned the Collector Car Market Review article as a picture  (thanks, 
slowboy!) and now its up on my photobucket account. Quality is still  not 
great, but its  readable...

http://s104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/funkaholik/?action=view&current=scan00
02.jpg

Enjoy!


Erik Miller
1970 SPL311-29945




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From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Thu Jan 17 21:05:59 2008
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:05:59 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 Header Flange
Message-ID: <001301c85987$6f923910$ba3ecf18@Daryl>

I am finally getting to building a header for my R stroker engine and was
wondering if anyone knew where I might get a 1/2" thick flange to start with?

Is this something I have to go out and get cut? If so, is anyone else
interested in getting a header flange (part that bolts to the head) for a
1600??

Thanks
Daryl

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Fri Jan 18 06:04:12 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:04:12 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] FW:  Emblem question/answer
Message-ID: <E1JFqtC-00008K-Vx@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Oops, forgot to add "the list" address to my reply... it's early.

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew A. Smith [mailto:matthews517 at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:03 AM
To: 'dave'
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Emblem question/answer

From: Dave [mailto:daveandlindab at comcast.net]
"Even if the pins are not the same, grind them off the new emblem, and use
thin double stick tape.  Other method, if you can get to the back of the
fender or make a template, mark and epoxy new pins in the proper place."

Hi Dave, 
I like this idea. Going to go to the junk yard this weekend and see if I can
find any to experiment with.

Everyone,
Here's the reply I got from Troy Thacker at "Too Intense Restoration" (it
was stuck in my "suspect email" folder).
"Sorry the emblems in question will not fit they are very different from the
correct ones for the Roadster. I do offer the (3) emblems that are correct
for the Roadster. They are not listed on my web site but I do have them.
They sell for 138.95 for the set of (3) and they are Genuine Nissan / Datsun
parts."

Thanks for your suggestions, Listers!
Matt Smith

From toolmansj2 at comcast.net  Fri Jan 18 09:54:08 2008
From: toolmansj2 at comcast.net (toolmansj2 at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:54:08 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] battery cable help
Message-ID: <011820081654.24684.4790D9AF000556C00000606C2215575114B6AC020E03040101AB@comcast.net>

Does anyone know the length of wire I need to build a positive battery cable. I will also build a negative cable with the same wire. I did not get a positive cable with my car and plan on buying some at lunch time today. I plan on using #4 welding cable and it is quite expensive like $4.25 a foot. This is what they sell at the auto store close to my work. Any advice?

--
1969 2000 U20 
2007 Titan 4x4

From toolmansj2 at comcast.net  Fri Jan 18 10:33:12 2008
From: toolmansj2 at comcast.net (toolmansj2 at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:33:12 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: battery cable help
Message-ID: <011820081733.15155.4790E2D8000413B900003B332215575114B6AC020E03040101AB@comcast.net>

Does anyone know the length of wire I need to build a positive battery cable. I will also build a negative cable with the same wire. I did not get a positive cable with my car and plan on buying some at lunch time today. I plan on using #4 welding cable and it is quite expensive like $4.25 a foot. This is what they sell at the auto store close to my work. Any advice?

--
1969 2000 U20 
2007 Titan 4x4

From reblues at reblues.net  Fri Jan 18 12:04:30 2008
From: reblues at reblues.net (Richard Brown)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:04:30 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: battery cable help
References: <011820081733.15155.4790E2D8000413B900003B332215575114B6AC020E03040101AB@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <009e01c85a04$f528f410$6601a8c0@ACER4230>

I just measured one at 42".   I seem to remember it being plenty long.  You 
may want to add a bit.

Richard
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <toolmansj2 at comcast.net>
To: "roadster list" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 12:33 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: battery cable help


> Does anyone know the length of wire I need to build a positive battery 
> cable. I will also build a negative cable with the same wire. I did not 
> get a positive cable with my car and plan on buying some at lunch time 
> today. I plan on using #4 welding cable and it is quite expensive like 
> $4.25 a foot. This is what they sell at the auto store close to my work. 
> Any advice?
>
> --
> 1969 2000 U20
> 2007 Titan 4x4
> ____ 

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Fri Jan 18 13:52:10 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:52:10 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] battery cable help
In-Reply-To: <011820081654.24684.4790D9AF000556C00000606C2215575114B6AC020E03040101AB@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <PLEKIPKLOPKJCCDNMINGCEFKCHAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>

If you have the time, you might also check the salvage yards for welding
cable. They sell it by the pound. I used #0 cable for mine, since I was
putting the battery in the trunk.

Gordon Glasgow
Renton, WA

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of toolmansj2 at comcast.net
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:54 AM
To: roadster list
Subject: [Roadsters] battery cable help


Does anyone know the length of wire I need to build a positive battery
cable. I will also build a negative cable with the same wire. I did not get
a positive cable with my car and plan on buying some at lunch time today. I
plan on using #4 welding cable and it is quite expensive like $4.25 a foot.
This is what they sell at the auto store close to my work. Any advice?

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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Jan 18 18:11:05 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:11:05 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] battery cable help
Message-ID: <011920080111.2695.47914E290005686B00000A872205886442CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

I just bought a pre-made 4-gauge cable from Schucks (one of my local auto parts chains). No need to fabricate anything. Don't remember the length....might have been 40, 42 or 48 inches.

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
> If you have the time, you might also check the salvage yards for welding
> cable. They sell it by the pound. I used #0 cable for mine, since I was
> putting the battery in the trunk.
> 
> Gordon Glasgow
> Renton, WA
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of toolmansj2 at comcast.net
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:54 AM
> To: roadster list
> Subject: [Roadsters] battery cable help
> 
> 
> Does anyone know the length of wire I need to build a positive battery
> cable. I will also build a negative cable with the same wire. I did not get
> a positive cable with my car and plan on buying some at lunch time today. I
> plan on using #4 welding cable and it is quite expensive like $4.25 a foot.
> This is what they sell at the auto store close to my work. Any advice?
> 
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 18 22:07:20 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:07:20 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] smog plugs
Message-ID: <BAY106-W1051D9FF3130BCFA29D75CDF430@phx.gbl>

hi list

ebay item 120210367479 - tapered smog plugs

anybody have any comments as to worthwhileness?

Peter
1970 SPL311U Eliza (TOAD SAN)

From sandhoff at csus.edu  Sat Jan 19 18:55:22 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:55:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] smog plugs
In-Reply-To: <BAY106-W1051D9FF3130BCFA29D75CDF430@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY106-W1051D9FF3130BCFA29D75CDF430@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801191746050.31110@netserv.csus.edu>

> ebay item 120210367479 - tapered smog plugs
> anybody have any comments as to worthwhileness?

The U20 is prone to a birdlike 'chirp' on decel if the
smog tubes are pulled and the holes aren't properly filled.
These plugs look similar to a style I used in one of my
engines. I'm happy to see that they have the metric thread.
I like the hex head, too.

One note is that they are steel and the head is aluminum.
Use antiseize if you ever want to take them out. Even then,
after a few years they may not come back out.

Tom Walter, long long ago, machined custom plugs out of
high grade aluminum. Alas, he no longer has time to do that.
(extra credit for those that remember Tom and his
relevance to this list!)

-- John
     John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu  Sacramento, CA

From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com  Sat Jan 19 19:10:15 2008
From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:10:15 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] smog plugs
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801191746050.31110@netserv.csus.edu>
References: <BAY106-W1051D9FF3130BCFA29D75CDF430@phx.gbl>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0801191746050.31110@netserv.csus.edu>
Message-ID: <4792AD87.7040803@hornesystemstx.com>

Tom's still on the list in lurk mode. I see him post something every so 
often. I just received email from him yesterday. He gave me the heads up 
on a Datsun sedan on Austin craigslist near me. I didn't need the car 
and it appears that someone else did, as it is not listed any longer.

In looking at the listed plugs it appears to me that the necked down 
part of the plugs are somewhat shorter than I remember Tom's being. 
Since I have a 67.5, I don't have nor need any plugs, but I did see some 
of Tom's long ago. Am I remembering things incorrectly?

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake John F Sandhoff:
>> ebay item 120210367479 - tapered smog plugs
>> anybody have any comments as to worthwhileness?
>>     
>
> The U20 is prone to a birdlike 'chirp' on decel if the
> smog tubes are pulled and the holes aren't properly filled.
> These plugs look similar to a style I used in one of my
> engines. I'm happy to see that they have the metric thread.
> I like the hex head, too.
>
> One note is that they are steel and the head is aluminum.
> Use antiseize if you ever want to take them out. Even then,
> after a few years they may not come back out.
>
> Tom Walter, long long ago, machined custom plugs out of
> high grade aluminum. Alas, he no longer has time to do that.
> (extra credit for those that remember Tom and his
> relevance to this list!)
>
> -- John
>      John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu  Sacramento, CA
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From fergus06 at socal.rr.com  Sat Jan 19 20:54:56 2008
From: fergus06 at socal.rr.com (Fergus OFarrell)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:54:56 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] smog plugs, useful
Message-ID: <004601c85b18$38febb20$96b44a42@fergus031a2176>

Peter,
useful if you have removed your smog equipment.
I have the aforementioned plumbing plugs installed in my head (well, the
roadsters, but some would question), and whenever I go on a fun run, when I
floor it and go racing up close to someone, they later mention an interesting
sound, much liuke pressing the 6 button on a touch tone phone.  an audible
CHIRP at WOT.
Musicians notice it, at idle, as well.  I, personally, have used too many
power tools and played in a band for too long, so it is lost on me, or every
time I "WOT", I am grinning so large my ears are masked from the sound!
Performance loss?  well, this could be debated.  the chirp persists, so that
unfilled cavity isn't filling with carbon.
When you pull your head for valve work, you can have this cavity filled.
Otherwise, probably be worth it.
Plumbing plugs are made of brass, so as they heat up they grow faster than the
head hole they are in, so leaks usually don't happen.
I bought a similar set of "Tom Walter" plugs way back when, but have been
afraid to pull the plumbing plugs, (which are a 'pretty-close' plumbing
thread, so effectively cross-thread the hole) cause if the TW plugs didn't go
in, I'd be snookered into a lot of work.
Fergus O'Frugal, 69 2000 on a budget, HB, CA

From egustavson at bigpond.com  Sun Jan 20 00:32:18 2008
From: egustavson at bigpond.com (Eric)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:32:18 +1000
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 Solex Carb expert, rebuilder? (other idea)
In-Reply-To: <8CA273EFDA8E976-838-55@webmailbeta-m01.sysops.aol.com>
References: <889980.97016.qm@web90606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<8CA273EFDA8E976-838-55@webmailbeta-m01.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4792F902.5090702@bigpond.com>

There is a small brass blanking plug that closes off a drillway in the 
cold start circuit on the old carbs. Sometimes it leaks and there's no 
way you can tune this out without fixing it. The symptom is that the 
engine runs rich on one cylinder. It can be fixed with a small brass 
drift and <light> hammer tap or two. I have seen several old-style carbs 
with this problem and it is easy to fix. The diagnosis is the hard bit.

regards
Eric in Townsville

eegc at aol.com wrote:
> My 2000 Solex carbs (old style) are making Skip Miller in Pasadena crazy, he can't get the front one to work properly.? Anyone know an expert in the Los Angeles area to deal with it, or have a front one that works to sell to me, or have some other ideas?
>
> Gary C

From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 20 12:15:17 2008
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:15:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
Message-ID: <580218.13093.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

hi everyone
i have some parts i want out of the garage.  they are free to whomever wishes to retrieve them from my garage in Highland Park (northeast los angeles).  i have 3 bumpers, one roll bar (street bar), and two stock steel wheels (one complete with bias play tire!).  if no one wants them, they go to the metal scrap guy.  pics available upon request.
thank you
steve
675MIZU

From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 20 12:54:01 2008
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:54:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
Message-ID: <637201.83099.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

hi again everyone
i forgot to list that i also have 2 seats.  i believe they are from a 67, but not sure.  they have good frames, and garbage upholstery.  they are similarly in my garage in NE los, and are similarly free to a good home.  pics upon request.
s
675MIZU

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Sun Jan 20 17:01:07 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:01:07 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 Solex Carb expert, rebuilder? (other idea)
In-Reply-To: <4792F902.5090702@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <E1JGk65-0000hb-Rl@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi Eric and List,
This comes under the heading of "other idea" I guess. 
Is there a similar issue with "new" style Solexes? I have had somewhat of a
problem with Loreli. I don't get proof of running rich on any one cylinder
via spark plug inspections, but I have a "popping/sucking" type noise coming
out of the front carb (front of carb I think, #1 cyl.). It sounds a little
like a suction cup popping loose. It's not loud, but I'm sure it's not good.
It's too damn cold to go out and check valve adjustment. It's been like this
for 2 years, so I don't have any problem waiting till it is warmer to fix
it, but I'd like to have SOME idea where to start (if valve adjustment
doesn't work). Am I looking at head work? Carb rebuild? If I'm getting "blow
back" from the valves being out of adjustment, will a "flow meter" jump
wildly?
At idle, I can hear it maybe or 2, or 3 times per second at most (not 5.8+
as I would expect if it's only on compression stroke @ 700 RPM). I'm no math
genius, but I figured 4 stroke engine = 350 compression strokes per minute
at 700 rpm / 60 seconds = 5.83333 compression strokes per second. 

Have any ideas folks? I think I asked a question similar to this previously,
but now I had a little more info to add. It's hard to ask the right question
the first time, I've found. :-) Right answers to the wrong question are
ALWAYS a learning experience tho!!!!! Gas tank half full, not half empty!
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Eric
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 2:32 AM
To: Datsun-Roadsters Mail List
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 2000 Solex Carb expert, rebuilder? (other idea)

There is a small brass blanking plug that closes off a drillway in the 
cold start circuit on the old carbs. Sometimes it leaks and there's no 
way you can tune this out without fixing it. The symptom is that the 
engine runs rich on one cylinder. It can be fixed with a small brass 
drift and <light> hammer tap or two. I have seen several old-style carbs 
with this problem and it is easy to fix. The diagnosis is the hard bit.

regards
Eric in Townsville

eegc at aol.com wrote:
> My 2000 Solex carbs (old style) are making Skip Miller in Pasadena crazy,
he can't get the front one to work properly.? Anyone know an expert in the
Los Angeles area to deal with it, or have a front one that works to sell to
me, or have some other ideas?
>
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From hallosb at juno.com  Sun Jan 20 17:13:19 2008
From: hallosb at juno.com (hallosb at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:13:19 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] cowl drain hose
Message-ID: <20080120.171319.1036.0.hallosb@juno.com>

I bought a drain hose from one of the vendors long ago and it never fit
right. Too thick and contacts the throttle linkage.  Not quite right
inside the dash, either.  I can't get a good connection with the cowl. I
guess my best bet is to try and do what the vendor did and piece together
some sections of radiator hose.

Anyone have any luck doing this?  Do you have part numbers for the hoses
you used?

TIA, 
Dan McHatton
'66 1600

From reblues at reblues.net  Sun Jan 20 18:59:43 2008
From: reblues at reblues.net (Richard Brown)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:59:43 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] cowl drain hose
References: <20080120.171319.1036.0.hallosb@juno.com>
Message-ID: <007b01c85bd1$4b2b98e0$6601a8c0@ACER4230>

Here is a link that may help.

http://www.311s.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6797&highlight=cowl+hose

Richard Brown

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <hallosb at juno.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 7:13 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] cowl drain hose


>I bought a drain hose from one of the vendors long ago and it never fit
> right. Too thick and contacts the throttle linkage.  Not quite right
> inside the dash, either.  I can't get a good connection with the cowl. I
> guess my best bet is to try and do what the vendor did and piece together
> some sections of radiator hose.
> 
> Anyone have any luck doing this?  Do you have part numbers for the hoses
> you used?
> 
> TIA, 
> Dan McHatton
> '66 1600
> ________________________________________

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Sun Jan 20 20:29:19 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:29:19 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 14' Panasports to 15' somethings
Message-ID: <BAY106-W3858BEFB61571CF19557B3DF3D0@phx.gbl>

Hi,
Being more interested in economy than off the line stuff, I am thinking of
trading in my 14' panasports for some 15' wheels that look cool etc.(and
hopefully somewhat panasportish)

Currently running 195's

A) Anyone interested in some sort of trade ?
B) Any thoughts as to what to get?
C) Anyone want to buy when I am done?
D) Anything else that strikes one.

Thx

Peter

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Sun Jan 20 21:33:49 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:33:49 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 14' Panasports to 15' somethings
In-Reply-To: <BAY106-W3858BEFB61571CF19557B3DF3D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <PLEKIPKLOPKJCCDNMINGGEGDCHAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>

When you get much above a 24" diameter on there, you can start running into
clearance problems. I used to run a 185/70-14, which is 24.2" and it was
very tight. Part of the tightness is because of the section width, and if
you go to a 15" wheel, you're going to find it difficult if not impossible
to get anything narrower than a 195. A 195/65-15 is about 25" tall but has a
section width about 0.4" wider than a 185, so it's going to be a very tight
fit. The wheel offset is going to be critical, I think.

Gordon Glasgow
Renton, WA

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of peter harrison
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 7:29 PM
To: datsun
Subject: [Roadsters] 14' Panasports to 15' somethings


Hi,
Being more interested in economy than off the line stuff, I am thinking of
trading in my 14' panasports for some 15' wheels that look cool etc.(and
hopefully somewhat panasportish)

Currently running 195's

A) Anyone interested in some sort of trade ?
B) Any thoughts as to what to get?
C) Anyone want to buy when I am done?
D) Anything else that strikes one.

Thx

Peter
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From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Sun Jan 20 23:13:38 2008
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:13:38 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 14' Panasports to 15' somethings
References: <PLEKIPKLOPKJCCDNMINGGEGDCHAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <005901c85bf4$c3b7ce50$ba3ecf18@Daryl>

I am running '83 (?) 280 ZX turbo wheels (15") on my '66 with 185/65/15 
Falken tires with no rubbing issues except on one side on very hard 
cornering. My body is also not centered to the axle, and if I figure out how 
to solve that issue, there may not be any rubbing at all.

If I remember correctly the 280 ZX wheels are a +12mm fit whereas the 
panasports are a +15mm which should make clearance a non-issue..............

Picture here:  http://www.311s.org/registry/1966/spl311-01605.html

good luck

Daryl



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
To: "peter harrison" <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>; "datsun" 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 14' Panasports to 15' somethings


> When you get much above a 24" diameter on there, you can start running 
> into
> clearance problems. I used to run a 185/70-14, which is 24.2" and it was
> very tight. Part of the tightness is because of the section width, and if
> you go to a 15" wheel, you're going to find it difficult if not impossible
> to get anything narrower than a 195. A 195/65-15 is about 25" tall but has 
> a
> section width about 0.4" wider than a 185, so it's going to be a very 
> tight
> fit. The wheel offset is going to be critical, I think.
>
> Gordon Glasgow
> Renton, WA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of peter harrison
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 7:29 PM
> To: datsun
> Subject: [Roadsters] 14' Panasports to 15' somethings
>
>
> Hi,
> Being more interested in economy than off the line stuff, I am thinking of
> trading in my 14' panasports for some 15' wheels that look cool etc.(and
> hopefully somewhat panasportish)
>
> Currently running 195's
>
> A) Anyone interested in some sort of trade ?
> B) Any thoughts as to what to get?
> C) Anyone want to buy when I am done?
> D) Anything else that strikes one.
>
> Thx
>
> Peter

From RWM at RWMann.com  Sun Jan 20 23:33:16 2008
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM (Out of the Office))
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 01:33:16 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 14' Panasports to 15' somethings
In-Reply-To: <005901c85bf4$c3b7ce50$ba3ecf18@Daryl>
References: <PLEKIPKLOPKJCCDNMINGGEGDCHAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>
	<005901c85bf4$c3b7ce50$ba3ecf18@Daryl>
Message-ID: <47943CAC.2000905@RWMann.com>

I run 205-60R14 Bridgestone RE-71s on American 14x7 rims on the rear 
(195-55R14 fronts) with no problems at all.

Can't remember what backspacing; 1980 vintage purchase.

- Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex

 

Daryl Smith wrote:

>I am running '83 (?) 280 ZX turbo wheels (15") on my '66 with 185/65/15 
>Falken tires with no rubbing issues except on one side on very hard 
>cornering. My body is also not centered to the axle, and if I figure out how 
>to solve that issue, there may not be any rubbing at all.
>
>If I remember correctly the 280 ZX wheels are a +12mm fit whereas the 
>panasports are a +15mm which should make clearance a non-issue..............
>
>Picture here:  http://www.311s.org/registry/1966/spl311-01605.html
>
>good luck
>
>Daryl
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
>To: "peter harrison" <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>; "datsun" 
><datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 8:33 PM
>Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 14' Panasports to 15' somethings
>
>
>  
>
>>When you get much above a 24" diameter on there, you can start running 
>>into
>>clearance problems. I used to run a 185/70-14, which is 24.2" and it was
>>very tight. Part of the tightness is because of the section width, and if
>>you go to a 15" wheel, you're going to find it difficult if not impossible
>>to get anything narrower than a 195. A 195/65-15 is about 25" tall but has 
>>a
>>section width about 0.4" wider than a 185, so it's going to be a very 
>>tight
>>fit. The wheel offset is going to be critical, I think.
>>
>>Gordon Glasgow
>>Renton, WA
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
>>[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On
>>Behalf Of peter harrison
>>Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 7:29 PM
>>To: datsun
>>Subject: [Roadsters] 14' Panasports to 15' somethings
>>
>>
>>Hi,
>>Being more interested in economy than off the line stuff, I am thinking of
>>trading in my 14' panasports for some 15' wheels that look cool etc.(and
>>hopefully somewhat panasportish)
>>
>>Currently running 195's
>>
>>A) Anyone interested in some sort of trade ?
>>B) Any thoughts as to what to get?
>>C) Anyone want to buy when I am done?
>>D) Anything else that strikes one.
>>
>>Thx
>>
>>Peter
>>    
>>
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From aultgc at att.net  Sun Jan 20 23:58:02 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:58:02 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] cowl drain hose
References: <20080120.171319.1036.0.hallosb@juno.com>
Message-ID: <000b01c85bfa$f7595e80$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

Dan,

Was Dean at datsunparts.com the vendor?  If not, try his product.  I have 
not purchased this item from him, but I have never been disappointed with 
the reproduction parts he has sold me.

Gary Ault

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <hallosb at juno.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 6:13 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] cowl drain hose


>I bought a drain hose from one of the vendors long ago and it never fit
> right. Too thick and contacts the throttle linkage.  Not quite right
> inside the dash, either.  I can't get a good connection with the cowl. I
> guess my best bet is to try and do what the vendor did and piece together
> some sections of radiator hose.
>
> Anyone have any luck doing this?  Do you have part numbers for the hoses
> you used?
>
> TIA,
> Dan McHatton
> '66 1600
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From Geegc at aol.com  Mon Jan 21 00:15:32 2008
From: Geegc at aol.com (Geegc at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 02:15:32 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] cowl drain hose
Message-ID: <cff.23f7990c.34c5a094@aol.com>

I took the old cowl drain hose in pieces to a parts place and the  counterman 
let me rummage through the ones in back until I found something that  fit 
(actually two pieces that I joined together.
 
Gary C
 
 
In a message dated 1/20/2008 10:57:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
aultgc at att.net writes:

Dan,

Was Dean at datsunparts.com the vendor?  If not, try  his product.  I have 
not purchased this item from him, but I have  never been disappointed with 
the reproduction parts he has sold  me.

Gary Ault

----- Original Message ----- 
From:  <hallosb at juno.com>
To:  <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 6:13  PM
Subject: [Roadsters] cowl drain hose


>I bought a drain  hose from one of the vendors long ago and it never fit
> right. Too  thick and contacts the throttle linkage.  Not quite right
> inside  the dash, either.  I can't get a good connection with the cowl. I
>  guess my best bet is to try and do what the vendor did and piece  together
> some sections of radiator hose.
>
> Anyone have  any luck doing this?  Do you have part numbers for the hoses
> you  used?
>
> TIA,
> Dan McHatton
> '66 1600
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From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com  Mon Jan 21 11:04:37 2008
From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:04:37 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] cowl drain hose
In-Reply-To: <007b01c85bd1$4b2b98e0$6601a8c0@ACER4230>
References: <20080120.171319.1036.0.hallosb@juno.com>
	<007b01c85bd1$4b2b98e0$6601a8c0@ACER4230>
Message-ID: <4794DEB5.1010502@hornesystemstx.com>

That may be the hose I bought some years ago. It's still sitting in the 
trunk waiting for me to get time to work on the engine. If need be I can 
check to see what it is. I seem to recall it being an upper radiator 
from a Subaru, but I can't remember.

When my original hose rotted I installed 2 rubber plumbing expansion 
plugs in the the holes to close them off. It's been that way for about 8 
years and works fine. When water builds up under the cowl, the first 
corner you go round pushes the water out of the depression and out into 
the fender.

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Richard Brown:
> Here is a link that may help.
>
> http://www.311s.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6797&highlight=cowl+hose
>
> Richard Brown
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <hallosb at juno.com>
> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 7:13 PM
> Subject: [Roadsters] cowl drain hose
>
>
>   
>> I bought a drain hose from one of the vendors long ago and it never fit
>> right. Too thick and contacts the throttle linkage.  Not quite right
>> inside the dash, either.  I can't get a good connection with the cowl. I
>> guess my best bet is to try and do what the vendor did and piece together
>> some sections of radiator hose.
>>
>> Anyone have any luck doing this?  Do you have part numbers for the hoses
>> you used?
>>
>> TIA, 
>> Dan McHatton
>> '66 1600
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From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Mon Jan 21 15:06:41 2008
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:06:41 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] OT Datsun subject: Wintertime warmer-upper,
 Local car show  pics, (large sized pic link)
Message-ID: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D4B8C97@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>

For those mired by the elements, who need their vehicular fix for the
week.
Being lucky enough to live in an area of car-amenable weather, there are
a few local, impromptu parking lot car shows in the area, one of which
is
a) in an area of a significant amount of disposable income and
b) frequented by some semi-pro photographers.
Each week, they post pics of those in attendance, and while they are a
bit over-impressed by the high-dollar supercars, they do have an
affection for taking lots of motion shots while folks are leaving.

Some nice pics, a great Jaguar D-type featured this week.

Shortcut to: http://carsandcoffee.info/forum/showthread.php?t=404

From sales at foilgraphics.com  Mon Jan 21 15:41:49 2008
From: sales at foilgraphics.com (Guy)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:41:49 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT Datsun subject: Wintertime warmer-upper,
 Local car show  pics, (large sized pic link)
References: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D4B8C97@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
Message-ID: <001001c85c7e$d0afb570$6e01a8c0@sales2006>

Greetings,
I went to the Barret Jackson Auto Auction yesterday.  Talk about excess. 
Wow!  Alot of great cars...but the prices....oofda!  It was fun seeing some 
of the cars from my past: 63 Corvette, 66 Corvette Sting ray, Alfa Romeo 
Spider.  I didn't see one of my all time very favorite cars...an Austin 
Healy Bug eye Sprite.  Good grief, that was a fun little bugger to drive.  I 
was hoping to see more vendors for the do it yourselfers.   Big mistake. 
This event is for the "pay someone else to do it" crowd.
Over 1,200 vehicles sold.  The most expensive I saw was a butt ugly limo 
that sold for $250,000.   Great weather.  A good experience.
Guy
Chandler, AZ
67.5 stroker.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" <Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 3:06 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] OT Datsun subject: Wintertime warmer-upper, Local car 
show pics, (large sized pic link)


> For those mired by the elements, who need their vehicular fix for the
> week.
> Being lucky enough to live in an area of car-amenable weather, there are
> a few local, impromptu parking lot car shows in the area, one of which
> is
> a) in an area of a significant amount of disposable income and
> b) frequented by some semi-pro photographers.
> Each week, they post pics of those in attendance, and while they are a
> bit over-impressed by the high-dollar supercars, they do have an
> affection for taking lots of motion shots while folks are leaving.
>
> Some nice pics, a great Jaguar D-type featured this week.
>
> Shortcut to: http://carsandcoffee.info/forum/showthread.php?t=404
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From jover4x4 at aol.com  Mon Jan 21 15:52:20 2008
From: jover4x4 at aol.com (jover4x4 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:52:20 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT Datsun subject: Wintertime warmer-upper,
 Local car show  pics, (large sized pic link)
In-Reply-To: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D4B8C97@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
References: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D4B8C97@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
Message-ID: <8CA2A9769FB154B-1504-374F@MBLK-M06.sysops.aol.com>

Fergus,

Thanks for the pictures.? They surely are a wintertime warmer-upper for?the?Wycrocers?as it is 12 degrees and snowing here in Denver.? We can't do much here until March,?other than?purchasing and stockpiling?parts for the fleet.
Thanks again.

John Over


-----Original Message-----
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To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 3:06 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] OT Datsun subject: Wintertime warmer-upper, Local car show pics, (large sized pic link)



For those mired by the elements, who need their vehicular fix for the
week.
Being lucky enough to live in an area of car-amenable weather, there are
a few local, impromptu parking lot car shows in the area, one of which
is
a) in an area of a significant amount of disposable income and
b) frequented by some semi-pro photographers.
Each week, they post pics of those in attendance, and while they are a
bit over-impressed by the high-dollar supercars, they do have an
affection for taking lots of motion shots while folks are leaving.

Some nice pics, a great Jaguar D-type featured this week.

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From johnwightman at shaw.ca  Mon Jan 21 16:34:17 2008
From: johnwightman at shaw.ca (John Wightman)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:34:17 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] OT Datsun subject: Wintertime warmer-upper,
 Local car show  pics, (large sized pic link)
In-Reply-To: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D4B8C97@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
References: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D4B8C97@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
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Wow, what a gathering - two things jumped out at me - first was the picture
of the V8 in a baby blue engine bay right after the shot of the green lotus
7 and the baby blue Mini shot - that had me going for a bit..! 

Second was with all that beautiful hardware in attendance, why waste a shot
on a smart car??? Ugh.

Thanks for the post...!

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+johnwightman=shaw.ca at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+johnwightman=shaw.ca at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of O'Farrell, Fergus
Sent: January-21-08 2:07 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] OT Datsun subject: Wintertime warmer-upper, Local car
show pics, (large sized pic link)

For those mired by the elements, who need their vehicular fix for the
week.
Being lucky enough to live in an area of car-amenable weather, there are
a few local, impromptu parking lot car shows in the area, one of which
is
a) in an area of a significant amount of disposable income and
b) frequented by some semi-pro photographers.
Each week, they post pics of those in attendance, and while they are a
bit over-impressed by the high-dollar supercars, they do have an
affection for taking lots of motion shots while folks are leaving.

Some nice pics, a great Jaguar D-type featured this week.

Shortcut to: http://carsandcoffee.info/forum/showthread.php?t=404

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Mon Jan 21 16:36:54 2008
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:36:54 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] OT Datsun subject: Wintertime warmer-upper,
 Local car show  pics, (large sized pic link)
References: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D4B8C97@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c85c86$826661e0$ba3ecf18@Daryl>

Great pics.  Was surprised to see the TR6 with the "Z" wheels. Too bad no 
roadsters..........

Daryl

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" <Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 2:06 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] OT Datsun subject: Wintertime warmer-upper, Local car 
show pics, (large sized pic link)


> For those mired by the elements, who need their vehicular fix for the
> week.
> Being lucky enough to live in an area of car-amenable weather, there are
> a few local, impromptu parking lot car shows in the area, one of which
> is
> a) in an area of a significant amount of disposable income and
> b) frequented by some semi-pro photographers.
> Each week, they post pics of those in attendance, and while they are a
> bit over-impressed by the high-dollar supercars, they do have an
> affection for taking lots of motion shots while folks are leaving.
>
> Some nice pics, a great Jaguar D-type featured this week.
>
> Shortcut to: http://carsandcoffee.info/forum/showthread.php?t=404

From tom at datsun2000.com  Mon Jan 21 16:40:10 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:40:10 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] OT Datsun subject: Wintertime warmer-upper,
 Local car show  pics, (large sized pic link)
In-Reply-To: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D4B8C97@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
Message-ID: <BBEDIFCDCKGJDOGMACDMMEOPCAAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

Nice pictures.  A couple of them brought back memories.  Some good, and some
not so good.

The Pantera's reminded me of the cars my father drove home from work.
Anything on the driveway was fair game for me to drive, and he sold cars for
aLincoln/Mercury dealership that also sold Pantera ($15,000 new).  Once in a
while one of the cars he drove home was a Pantera and it disappeared quickly
as I took off for the evening.

The other memory was the Ford Cortina.  I was taking one of these from the
dealership to the paint shop and BOTH tie rod ends came loose, one at a
time.  They remained connected to the steering joints, but the front wheels
were free to flop around a little bit as I went down the road.  This
happened on a the Marquam bridge on Interstate 5 in Portland.  I made it to
the paint shop, but they towed the car back to the dealership.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

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Behalf Of O'Farrell, Fergus
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 2:07 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] OT Datsun subject: Wintertime warmer-upper, Local
car show pics, (large sized pic link)


For those mired by the elements, who need their vehicular fix for the
week.
Being lucky enough to live in an area of car-amenable weather, there are
a few local, impromptu parking lot car shows in the area, one of which
is
a) in an area of a significant amount of disposable income and
b) frequented by some semi-pro photographers.
Each week, they post pics of those in attendance, and while they are a
bit over-impressed by the high-dollar supercars, they do have an
affection for taking lots of motion shots while folks are leaving.

Some nice pics, a great Jaguar D-type featured this week.

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From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com  Mon Jan 21 18:23:50 2008
From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:23:50 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT Datsun subject: Wintertime warmer-upper,
 Local car show  pics, (large sized pic link)
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Message-ID: <003801c85c95$7332ca10$0302a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>

Thanks for the smiles. Some nice looking dimes and a couple of Z's....
although only one car helps me to recall my youth...the early 70's Ford
Pinto.

Thanks to many years of rather expensive therapy, I had completely forgotten
it,

until now...

.


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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Mon Jan 21 19:10:52 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:10:52 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Steven Boortz' castoffs. - FREE
Message-ID: <BAY106-W118F879B0204336036220CDF3E0@phx.gbl>

Hi list,

I picked up the stuff that Steven was offering for free and I have a couple of
bits I don't want, but the deal was all or nothing.

So available:

1) Rear bumper (not sure year) but it is completely flat on the top (like the
1970) with the holes for the license lamp (i.e. not recessed) - also has 3
brackets ISO the 2 that my 1970 uses. Straight, except for crease in center -
surface rust - slight pitting - I have seen far worse coming up beautifully.

2) 3 overriders - with various levels of minor-medium creasing - but look to
be otherwise in good shape

3) 2 early seats (i.e. no headrest) - tatty, need recovering - seats slides
work though and has all the chrome trim/knobs.

There is a possibility that the roll bar that came with the lot may not work
with my Miata seats, but since that will require some time to see if it indeed
does, will surface later on.

So, since Steven gave them to me, I am offering them to the list for FREE

You don't have to take the lot - just what you want.

I am in Van Nuys, CA - can't give pix since my new computer is down and my old
one (current) cannot communicate w/USB Ports.

The seats will be thrown away - less the runners - within two weeks - I will
keep the overriders/rear bumper for now - but cannot guarantee their
lifespan.

Peter
1970 SPL311U 'Eliza' (TOAD SAN)

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Mon Jan 21 19:23:20 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:23:20 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Wheels
Message-ID: <BAY106-W26DCA41008D8FDC398B7A5DF3E0@phx.gbl>

Somewhere on 311s.org - I thought there was a whole section on wheels with pix
of different types - have looked around but cannot find.
Help??
Thx
Peter

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Mon Jan 21 20:58:50 2008
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:58:50 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Wheels
References: <BAY106-W26DCA41008D8FDC398B7A5DF3E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <005901c85cab$196dd310$ba3ecf18@Daryl>

In the tech section under "Wheels"..........


From: "peter harrison" <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>

> Somewhere on 311s.org - I thought there was a whole section on wheels with 
> pix
> of different types - have looked around but cannot find.
> Help??
> Thx
> Peter

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Mon Jan 21 21:18:44 2008
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:18:44 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] OT Humour!!! " Chatter During Colonoscopies......"
 Delete if so inclined!!!!
Message-ID: <00ae01c85cad$e0ed8820$ba3ecf18@Daryl>

Subject: Fwd: Chatter During Colonoscopies......






  > >
  > >> Colonoscopies are no joke, but these comments during the exam
  > >> were quite humorous..... A physician claimed that the following are
  > >> actual comments made by his patients (predominately male) while he was
  > >> performing their colonoscopies:
  > >>
  > >>
  > >>
  > >> 1.
  > >> "Take it easy, Doc. You're boldly going where no man has gone
  > >> before!
  > >>
  > >>
  > >> 2.
  > >> "Find Amelia Earhart yet?"
  > >>
  > >>
  > >> 3.
  > >> "Can you hear me NOW?"
  > >>
  > >>
  > >> 4.
  > >> "Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?"
  > >>
  > >>
  > >> 5.
  > >> "You know, in Arkansas, we're now legally married."
  > >>
  > >>
  > >>
  > >> 6.
  > >> "Any sign of the trapped miners, Chief?"
  > >>
  > >>
  > >> 7.
  > >> "You put your left hand in, you take your left hand out..."
  > >>
  > >>
  > >> 8.
  > >> "Hey! Now I know how a Muppet feels!"
  > >>
  > >>
  > >> 9.
  > >> "If your hand doesn't fit, you must quit!
  > >>
  > >>
  > >> 10.
  > >> "Hey Doc, let me know if you find my dignity."
  > >>
  > >>
  > >>
  > >> 11.
  > >> "You used to be an executive at Enron, didn't you?"
  > >>
  > >>
  > >> 12.
  > >> "God, now I know why I am not gay."
  > >>
  > >>
  > >>
  > >> 13.
  > >> "Could you write a note for my wife saying that my head is not
  > >> up there?"

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Mon Jan 21 21:34:05 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:34:05 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] OT Humour!!! " Chatter During Colonoscopies......"
 Delete if ...
Message-ID: <d39.1de81d3e.34c6cc3d@aol.com>

When My father-in-law came back from his he commented that the camera was  
easy, it was the darned tripod that was hell.
 
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Mon Jan 21 21:44:49 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:44:49 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Disappearing car door
Message-ID: <001001c85cb1$85c6e370$6501a8c0@xp>

Ummmmm....

<http://www.disappearing-car-door.com/>

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Mon Jan 21 21:48:05 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:48:05 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT Datsun subject: Wintertime  warmer-upper,
 Local car show  pics, (large sized pic link)
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Message-ID: <000b01c85cb1$fb599ce0$6500a8c0@chrissy>

A Tropical +20 deg here today, but back up to 40 this weekend.  I make my
Wife watch Barrett Jackson, makes my fleet seem cheap!  Wait til the day
someone rolls a Datsun across the block on national TV and everyone suddenly
wants one.  That's why you need a few spares, kind of like a rolling, or
rusting, hedge fund.

-----Original Message-----
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From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Mon Jan 21 22:11:01 2008
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:11:01 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Disappearing car door
References: <001001c85cb1$85c6e370$6501a8c0@xp>
Message-ID: <011801c85cb5$2ec186d0$ba3ecf18@Daryl>

That is really neat!!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>


> Ummmmm....
> 
> <http://www.disappearing-car-door.com/>

From jones_barton at msn.com  Mon Jan 21 22:39:15 2008
From: jones_barton at msn.com (Jones Barton)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:39:15 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Disappearing car door
References: <001001c85cb1$85c6e370$6501a8c0@xp>
	<011801c85cb5$2ec186d0$ba3ecf18@Daryl>
Message-ID: <BLU130-DAV7B11BE797DBF2F1B71BA1E33E0@phx.gbl>

Neat indeed, but I keep think what could happen to a door like this? I guess I
am old school, the only electrical accessories I have found on a car that are
of a benefit is the rear view mirror adjusters and the radio.

Jones Barton
1969 1600
Steilacoom Wa.
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Daryl Smith<mailto:drlsmith at dccnet.com>
  To: Pete Peters<mailto:ppeters914 at comcast.net> ;
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net<mailto:datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
  Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 9:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Disappearing car door


  That is really neat!!


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net<mailto:ppeters914 at comcast.net>>


  > Ummmmm....
  >
  >
<http://www.disappearing-car-door.com/<http://www.disappearing-car-door.com/>
>
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From graemes at internode.on.net  Mon Jan 21 23:05:27 2008
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:35:27 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] Wheels
In-Reply-To: <BAY106-W26DCA41008D8FDC398B7A5DF3E0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY106-W26DCA41008D8FDC398B7A5DF3E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000601c85cbc$d092fc80$426fa8c0@desktop>

Somewhere on 311s.org - I thought there was a whole section on wheels with
pix of different types - have looked around but cannot find.
Help??
Thx
Peter
http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=Main.HomePage

then click on "Wheels-Tires" at the bottom of the side bar.

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From blinds04 at hotmail.com  Mon Jan 21 23:55:51 2008
From: blinds04 at hotmail.com (Brian H)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:55:51 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Wheels
In-Reply-To: <000601c85cbc$d092fc80$426fa8c0@desktop>
References: <BAY106-W26DCA41008D8FDC398B7A5DF3E0@phx.gbl>
	<000601c85cbc$d092fc80$426fa8c0@desktop>
Message-ID: <BAY118-W197FE1F98A9D46E6902E3AD53E0@phx.gbl>

There's also this thread by Alvin.  It is the sticky in the "Tire & Wheel
Discussion".

http://www.311s.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5787

-brian

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>
> Somewhere on 311s.org - I thought there was a whole section on wheels with
> pix of different types - have looked around but cannot find.
> Help??
> Thx
> Peter
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From stebharvey at ameritech.net  Tue Jan 22 03:24:51 2008
From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (steb)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 04:24:51 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Door Skin Replacement
Message-ID: <007c01c85ce1$06a73ec0$0574fea9@steb1>

Group,
 
The last items needing bodywork on my 70 restoration project are the
doors. I stripped the paint (aircraft stripper) down to the metal on
both doors and found that the passenger door is in excellent condition.
The driver's door is another matter. It looks like a drunk took a
bowling ball and slammed it into the door many times. The skin is so
dented I don't believe that it can be pulled out. I have several extra
doors with perfect skin but the bottoms of the doors are rusted to the
point of not being usable without a lot of metal replacement. My
question is, has anyone cut out bad metal from the skin and welded in
new metal from another door with a backer plate behind the door skin and
replacement panel? Since the metal is under stress from the stamping
process I'm wondering if it will spring out and not conform to the curve
of the door as I weld it onto to door.
 
Thanks
Steve Harvey
Milwaukee (cold!)

From dgstoll at verizon.net  Tue Jan 22 04:41:37 2008
From: dgstoll at verizon.net (Dave Stoll)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 06:41:37 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Disappearing car door
References: <001001c85cb1$85c6e370$6501a8c0@xp>
	<011801c85cb5$2ec186d0$ba3ecf18@Daryl>
	<BLU130-DAV7B11BE797DBF2F1B71BA1E33E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <001e01c85ceb$c60c8b80$2e01a8c0@default>

Looks like another obstuction for fire/rescue teams...
like those popup roll bars which may not have activated,
airbags which deploy while the emt is trying to attend to the injured,
hybrid cars which you can't hear whether they are running or not and massive 
amounts of voltage stored in the trunk somewhere...
daveS 

From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Tue Jan 22 06:47:20 2008
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 05:47:20 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Disappearing car door
In-Reply-To: <001001c85cb1$85c6e370$6501a8c0@xp>
References: <001001c85cb1$85c6e370$6501a8c0@xp>
Message-ID: <b0b0059f0801220547y349fd5e7nbe8348e3b9359d4e@mail.gmail.com>

WOW! With doors like this on my Roadster I won't have to do Yoga to get in
and out...




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> Ummmmm....
>
> <http://www.disappearing-car-door.com/>
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From racery at comcast.net  Tue Jan 22 13:25:50 2008
From: racery at comcast.net (racery at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 20:25:50 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Doorskins
Message-ID: <012220082025.26080.4796514E000291EB000065E02200761064979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net>

Yes, you can swap the skin-
it's very common practice in modern
body shops.  I've done a 'partial' before, 
too, and it wasn't too bad.  Harder, but easier than 
finding a door and fixing it's problems.  And if you leave part of the old skin
on and flange the joit between the 2, the door stays 
more stable. Even so, the big thing to watch for is warping the door
frame- the skin defines 'square', and if you don't 
pay close attention, you can turn the door into a taco.
The safest way to do it is to get it fit, but not attached,
then put the door back on the car and tack it into place 
while the door is aligned correctly to the car.

Good luck,
Toby

----

Group,
 
The last items needing bodywork on my 70 restoration project are the
doors. <snip>
dented I don't believe that it can be pulled out. I have several extra
doors with perfect skin but the bottoms of the doors are rusted to the
point of not being usable without a lot of metal replacement. My
question is, has anyone cut out bad metal from the skin and welded in
new metal from another door with a backer plate behind the door skin and
replacement panel? Since the metal is under stress from the stamping
process I'm wondering if it will spring out and not conform to the curve
of the door as I weld it onto to door.
 
Thanks
Steve Harvey
Milwaukee (cold!)

From rlabate at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 23 20:43:29 2008
From: rlabate at sbcglobal.net (Ritchie Labate)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:43:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster article in this months Hemmimgs
Message-ID: <356321.88130.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Good article and pics in this months Hemmings Sports and Exotic Cars (March 2008), on owner Ron Eastman's '68 1600, page 48.
   
  Also:
   
  Page 10- the Lane Motor Museum in Nashville is having a  Z car exhibit now through July 28. www.lanemotormuseum.org.
   
  RL
   
  '68 2000

From alvingogi at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 23 21:04:44 2008
From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 04:04:44 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Sighting in SanDiego!!
Message-ID: <BLU106-W13FC3A439CAA34DC3AAA8AB5380@phx.gbl>

I was walking through a neighborhood in Rancho Penasquitos and came across the
red/tan '69!!!
Anyone on the list?
http://family.webshots.com/photo/2769431280102308741lxaOhoAlvin GogineniSan
Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Jan 23 21:17:39 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:17:39 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Sighting in SanDiego!!
In-Reply-To: <BLU106-W13FC3A439CAA34DC3AAA8AB5380@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000e01c85e40$0f003990$6501a8c0@xp>

2 cars in the garage, a roadster just outside. Ya shoulda knocked on the
door.

No '69 teardrop front running lights. Wouldn't that be a '70?

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of alvin gogineni
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:05 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Sighting in SanDiego!!


I was walking through a neighborhood in Rancho Penasquitos and came across
the red/tan '69!!! Anyone on the list?
http://family.webshots.com/photo/2769431280102308741lxaOhoAlvin GogineniSan
Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20
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From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 23 21:27:39 2008
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:27:39 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Sighting in SanDiego!!
In-Reply-To: <000e01c85e40$0f003990$6501a8c0@xp>
References: <000e01c85e40$0f003990$6501a8c0@xp>
Message-ID: <479813BB.6080500@sbcglobal.net>

Nah... '70s have rectangular side marker lamps front & rear, also large 
round reflector inboard of lower tail lamp, not small reflector above 
brake and tail lamps.

Looks like a '69 that was refendered or had body work done and the front 
side marker lamps removed and bondo'd over.

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA
'70 2000 SRl311-13291

Pete Peters wrote:

>2 cars in the garage, a roadster just outside. Ya shoulda knocked on the
>door.
>
>No '69 teardrop front running lights. Wouldn't that be a '70?
>
>Pete
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
>[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
>Behalf Of alvin gogineni
>Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:05 PM
>To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Sighting in SanDiego!!
>
>
>I was walking through a neighborhood in Rancho Penasquitos and came across
>the red/tan '69!!! Anyone on the list?
>http://family.webshots.com/photo/2769431280102308741lxaOhoAlvin GogineniSan
>Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20

From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 23 21:42:02 2008
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:42:02 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Sighting in SanDiego!!
In-Reply-To: <479813BB.6080500@sbcglobal.net>
References: <000e01c85e40$0f003990$6501a8c0@xp>
	<479813BB.6080500@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4798171A.7040606@sbcglobal.net>

It also has the smaller, chrome-trimmed front parking lamps, so I'd say 
it's definitely a '69. Too bad it doesn't have the front teardrop side 
marker lamps - they're cool-looking.

Gary McCormick wrote:

>Nah... '70s have rectangular side marker lamps front & rear, also large 
>round reflector inboard of lower tail lamp, not small reflector above 
>brake and tail lamps.
>
>Looks like a '69 that was refendered or had body work done and the front 
>side marker lamps removed and bondo'd over.
>
>Gary McCormick
>San Jose, CA
>'70 2000 SRl311-13291
>
>Pete Peters wrote:
>
>  
>
>>2 cars in the garage, a roadster just outside. Ya shoulda knocked on the
>>door.
>>
>>No '69 teardrop front running lights. Wouldn't that be a '70?
>>
>>Pete
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
>>[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
>>Behalf Of alvin gogineni
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:05 PM
>>To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>>Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Sighting in SanDiego!!
>>
>>
>>I was walking through a neighborhood in Rancho Penasquitos and came across
>>the red/tan '69!!! Anyone on the list?
>>http://family.webshots.com/photo/2769431280102308741lxaOhoAlvin GogineniSan
>>Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Jan 23 23:54:03 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:54:03 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Sighting in SanDiego!!
In-Reply-To: <4798171A.7040606@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <001701c85e55$e877de20$6501a8c0@xp>

Ahhh, that must be it. I know where he can get a set of the teardrops. <g>

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Gary McCormick
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:42 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster Sighting in SanDiego!!


It also has the smaller, chrome-trimmed front parking lamps, so I'd say 
it's definitely a '69. Too bad it doesn't have the front teardrop side 
marker lamps - they're cool-looking.

Gary McCormick wrote:

>Nah... '70s have rectangular side marker lamps front & rear, also large
>round reflector inboard of lower tail lamp, not small reflector above 
>brake and tail lamps.
>
>Looks like a '69 that was refendered or had body work done and the 
>front
>side marker lamps removed and bondo'd over.
>
>Gary McCormick
>San Jose, CA
>'70 2000 SRl311-13291
>
>Pete Peters wrote:
>
>  
>
>>2 cars in the garage, a roadster just outside. Ya shoulda knocked on 
>>the door.
>>
>>No '69 teardrop front running lights. Wouldn't that be a '70?
>>
>>Pete
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
>>[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
>>] On Behalf Of alvin gogineni
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:05 PM
>>To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>>Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Sighting in SanDiego!!
>>
>>
>>I was walking through a neighborhood in Rancho Penasquitos and came 
>>across the red/tan '69!!! Anyone on the list? 
>>http://family.webshots.com/photo/2769431280102308741lxaOhoAlvin 
>>GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20
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From roadster at astound.net  Thu Jan 24 02:36:36 2008
From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 01:36:36 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] OT - new seatbelt reduces accidents
Message-ID: <7DF5AECF-0F38-4E53-8B8A-77F39ABEBD7C@astound.net>

Off topic animated gif - funny - new seatbelt reduces accidents

http://tinyurl.com/2s3srr

From DAT240Z73 at aol.com  Thu Jan 24 05:28:20 2008
From: DAT240Z73 at aol.com (DAT240Z73 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 07:28:20 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 2, Issue 29
Message-ID: <d45.1e76f3c8.34c9de64@aol.com>

I'm looking for a Ignition switch for my 69- 2000  roadster. Anyone have one 
for sale
Thanks
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From tputland at charter.net  Thu Jan 24 05:36:09 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 4:36:09 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Sighting in SanDiego!!
In-Reply-To: <001701c85e55$e877de20$6501a8c0@xp>
Message-ID: <20080124073609.MGR0N.496773.root@fepweb16>

Yea, from me. I have an extra set for sale! ;-)
--


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote: 

=============
Ahhh, that must be it. I know where he can get a set of the teardrops. <g>

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Gary McCormick
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:42 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster Sighting in SanDiego!!


It also has the smaller, chrome-trimmed front parking lamps, so I'd say 
it's definitely a '69. Too bad it doesn't have the front teardrop side 
marker lamps - they're cool-looking.

Gary McCormick wrote:

>Nah... '70s have rectangular side marker lamps front & rear, also large
>round reflector inboard of lower tail lamp, not small reflector above 
>brake and tail lamps.
>
>Looks like a '69 that was refendered or had body work done and the 
>front
>side marker lamps removed and bondo'd over.
>
>Gary McCormick
>San Jose, CA
>'70 2000 SRl311-13291
>
>Pete Peters wrote:
>
>  
>
>>2 cars in the garage, a roadster just outside. Ya shoulda knocked on 
>>the door.
>>
>>No '69 teardrop front running lights. Wouldn't that be a '70?
>>
>>Pete
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
>>[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
>>] On Behalf Of alvin gogineni
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:05 PM
>>To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>>Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Sighting in SanDiego!!
>>
>>
>>I was walking through a neighborhood in Rancho Penasquitos and came 
>>across the red/tan '69!!! Anyone on the list? 
>>http://family.webshots.com/photo/2769431280102308741lxaOhoAlvin 
>>GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20
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From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Thu Jan 24 09:52:30 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:52:30 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Jack info: was Original Emergency Jack - Looking
 for a crank
In-Reply-To: <8C9F9E932595830-ED0-58C2@webmail-da14.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <E1JI5JQ-0002mA-Sb@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Linda,

I know it's been a while since this subject, but here goes. I have this
exact jack in Loreli's trunk:

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200313500
_200313500

I also carry two 16" long 2"x4"s JUST IN CASE it's horribly muddy. The wide
front roller, instead of wheels, helps keep it from burying itself in soft
dirt. It tucks in quite nicely between the spare and the wheel-well, up
against the wall of the cab). This puts the weight (like 20ish lbs or so)
right over the axle. It also fits down the fender well if you're carrying
the one small tool box you MUST carry at all times. AND, it's pretty, pretty
blue!!! 

The stock "door wrecker" jack sits in the corner of my living room and has a
fake Black rose sticking out of the top!!! :-) 

Odd that 48 of Northern Tool's 61 stores are in the "South" HAHAHAHAHA!
(Insert intro to "Freebird" here!)!!!

I'm fortunate that there is a Northern Tool here in town. I often spend an
hour or two in there on a Saturday morning, after I get my coffee from
Starbucks and a cinnamon roll from the donut shop. :-)

Matt Smith

 

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From: ljordan704 at netscape.net [mailto:ljordan704 at netscape.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 PM
To: matthews517 at earthlink.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank

 

Matthew,
I was just thinking that a mini floor jack would be ideal. do you have a pic
or link to where to get one?
Thanks
Linda

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew A. Smith <matthews517 at earthlink.net>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 3:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank

I carry a very small, light floor jack. I don't trust the "dent maker" ones.






The extra weight is minimal, since it is aluminum. So it doesn't damage my






quarter panel, I keep it wrapped in a sheet of bubble wrap, down the fender






well beside the spare. 













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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu Jan 24 13:52:15 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 20:52:15 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Jack info: was Original Emergency Jack - Looking
 for a crank
Message-ID: <012420082052.17929.4798FA7F000BF4EA000046092200734076CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

I bought the same jack (different color & brand) from Summit Racing.

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Matthew A. Smith" <matthews517 at earthlink.net>
> Linda,
> 
> I know it's been a while since this subject, but here goes. I have this
> exact jack in Loreli's trunk:
> 
> http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200313500
> _200313500
> 
> I also carry two 16" long 2"x4"s JUST IN CASE it's horribly muddy. The wide
> front roller, instead of wheels, helps keep it from burying itself in soft
> dirt. It tucks in quite nicely between the spare and the wheel-well, up
> against the wall of the cab). This puts the weight (like 20ish lbs or so)
> right over the axle. It also fits down the fender well if you're carrying
> the one small tool box you MUST carry at all times. AND, it's pretty, pretty
> blue!!! 
> 
> The stock "door wrecker" jack sits in the corner of my living room and has a
> fake Black rose sticking out of the top!!! :-) 
> 
> Odd that 48 of Northern Tool's 61 stores are in the "South" HAHAHAHAHA!
> (Insert intro to "Freebird" here!)!!!
> 
> I'm fortunate that there is a Northern Tool here in town. I often spend an
> hour or two in there on a Saturday morning, after I get my coffee from
> Starbucks and a cinnamon roll from the donut shop. :-)
> 
> Matt Smith
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: ljordan704 at netscape.net [mailto:ljordan704 at netscape.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 PM
> To: matthews517 at earthlink.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank
> 
>  
> 
> Matthew,
> I was just thinking that a mini floor jack would be ideal. do you have a pic
> or link to where to get one?
> Thanks
> Linda
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew A. Smith <matthews517 at earthlink.net>
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Sent: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 3:08 pm
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank
> 
> I carry a very small, light floor jack. I don't trust the "dent maker" ones.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The extra weight is minimal, since it is aluminum. So it doesn't damage my
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> quarter panel, I keep it wrapped in a sheet of bubble wrap, down the fender
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> well beside the spare. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From tputland at charter.net  Thu Jan 24 14:08:06 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:08:06 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] freeze plug sizes
Message-ID: <20080124160806.9XG4Z.532578.root@fepweb16>

Are the freeze plugs the same size in the R series motors and the L series motors?

Thanks

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From funkaholik at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 24 15:00:56 2008
From: funkaholik at yahoo.com (Erik Miller)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:00:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Car Cover for Roadster
Message-ID: <274489.25054.qm@web90607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Apologies if this has been discussed already, but does anyone know what brand / model # of car covers fits our roadsters?  I'm looking for something weatherproof as my car will have to be stored outside for a while. I've used the "Noah" cover on my Mustang and it works great outdoors.  When I go to car cover sites, the first thing they want you to do is select make/model of car, and of course there's no Datsun listed.  Thanks!  BTW, I looked on 311s.org for this info, but couldn't find it there.  Might be a good idea to include a list of covers there.


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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu Jan 24 15:33:40 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:33:40 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Car Cover for Roadster
Message-ID: <012420082233.21157.47991243000EFFD5000052A52205886442CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Yes, it's been discussed, but I'm not gonna tell you to search the list archives and get flamed for it. <g>

Searching on the 311s.org forum for "car cover" yielded 216 hits. This is the most relevant one:

<http://www.311s.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3405>

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Erik Miller <funkaholik at yahoo.com>
> Apologies if this has been discussed already, but does anyone know what brand / 
> model # of car covers fits our roadsters?  I'm looking for something 
> weatherproof as my car will have to be stored outside for a while. I've used the 
> "Noah" cover on my Mustang and it works great outdoors.  When I go to car cover 
> sites, the first thing they want you to do is select make/model of car, and of 
> course there's no Datsun listed.  Thanks!  BTW, I looked on 311s.org for this 
> info, but couldn't find it there.  Might be a good idea to include a list of 
> covers there.
> 
> 
>   Erik Miller
>  1970 SPL311-29945
>  
> 
> 
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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Thu Jan 24 16:22:44 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:22:44 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Sighting in SanDiego!!
In-Reply-To: <000e01c85e40$0f003990$6501a8c0@xp>
Message-ID: <001001c85ee0$06a9b690$cbaa8e45@chrissy>

Looks like a 69 with 70 fenders.  Has the dash knobs with words not icons,
mostly.  Could also be a parts bin special, from the factory or later in
life.

Dave Brisco
-----Original Message-----
No '69 teardrop front running lights. Wouldn't that be a '70?

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net

I was walking through a neighborhood in Rancho Penasquitos and came across
the red/tan '69!!! Anyone on the list?
http://family.webshots.com/photo/2769431280102308741lxaOhoAlvin GogineniSan
Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20
_________________________________________________________________

From tlkjr at comcast.net  Thu Jan 24 18:18:30 2008
From: tlkjr at comcast.net (Thomas King)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:18:30 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] bumper plating cost
Message-ID: <AB602705-74A9-48B3-85E4-0D0A6453991C@comcast.net>

Most are aware of the rising cost of plating these days. I'm  
currently looking for someone to straighten and replate both the  
front and rear bumper for my 68 2000. So far I gotten 3 estimates:  
Bumper Boyz  out of Socal $290 per bumper,  $65 per guard, Tric City  
out of TN $300 per bumper and $60 per guard, and Graves out of my  
hometown of Florence AL $650 for plating only each bumper, or $750!  
if they straighten and rechrome!, $175 per guard! If you've talk to  
any of the shops they tell you that the EPA regulations and the toxic  
nature of the process has really increased the operational cost. My  
understanding is that Bumper Boyz sends their metal to mexico for  
their plating. Any feedback on this subject would be appreciated  
though if you haven't had this performed in the last year or so the  
cost my be way off. I gues the moral of this story is to take care of  
that chrome because replating in the future my painfully costly.
Thomas King
68 2000
other datsun pieces and "junk"

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Thu Jan 24 18:21:49 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 20:21:49 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Jack info: was Original Emergency Jack - Lookingfor
 a crank
In-Reply-To: <E1JI5JQ-0002mA-Sb@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <000001c85ef0$a97a0f90$cbaa8e45@chrissy>

I have the same jack, Harbor Freight sells it also. There are some smaller
ones, but they are heavier. I haven't used my big 2 1/2 ton since I got the
little one.  Best to store it upright, not on it's side, and if you cut a
piece of plywood the size of your spare tire with a 4 inch hole in the
middle, you can store it under the tire and have something to put under the
jack without taking up trunk space.  If you go to the local home store and
buy a 3 foot piece of foam pipe insulation, you can put it over the handle
of the jack.  It comes up beyond vertical and can hit the car.  Also keeps
the handle from rattling in the trunk.

Dave Brisco

Linda,

I know it's been a while since this subject, but here goes. I have this
exact jack in Loreli's trunk:

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200313500
_200313500




  _____

From: ljordan704 at netscape.net [mailto:ljordan704 at netscape.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 PM
To: matthews517 at earthlink.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank



Matthew,
I was just thinking that a mini floor jack would be ideal. do you have a pic
or link to where to get one? Thanks Linda





-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew A. Smith <matthews517 at earthlink.net>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 3:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank

I carry a very small, light floor jack. I don't trust the "dent maker" ones.






The extra weight is minimal, since it is aluminum. So it doesn't damage my






quarter panel, I keep it wrapped in a sheet of bubble wrap, down the fender






well beside the spare.













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From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Thu Jan 24 18:40:25 2008
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (Mike H.)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:40:25 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Stroker Poll in Forum Tech Section
Message-ID: <00a801c85ef3$42546470$6500a8c0@lap>

For people who have built or may be interested in the R16 stroker motor, Steve
Allen and I have created a "Stroker Poll" to collect as much information as we
can about building and tuning these engines. This poll is found at the
following 311s Forum Technical Discussion link:

http://www.311s.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7211

We believe this info could be useful for tuning, enhancing performance, and
general reading entertainment. Steve and I were also curious as to how many
strokers have actually been built, so if nothing else, please let the poll
know who you are so that we can achieve an accurate count.

Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed

From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Thu Jan 24 21:13:06 2008
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (Mike H.)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:13:06 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
Message-ID: <00d201c85f08$96b4fd80$6500a8c0@lap>

For those who would rather provide stroker info through the list, this is what
were looking for:

1. Head, valves, intake manifold modifications

2. Pistons, rods, crankshaft (custom, H20 dished, U20 flat tops, NISMO or U20
crank, etc.)

3. Camshaft grind and by what company; any and all specs you can provide:
intake duration, exhaust duration (if different), and lift. These
specs are often given with an advertised lift number such as .050", or some
other number by the grinder)

4. Valve lash

5. Carburetors 1600 or 2000 (or other, FI, etc.)

6. Carb jet size .090 or .010

7. Carb needle designation (this NOT the needle and seat in the float chamber)

8. Ignition distributor (stock or electronic, Gary Boone EI, etc.)

9. Timing settings

10. Cooling system (stock R16, U20, or custom radiators) thermostat
temperature, and average running temperature

11. Any other additional comments or info that maybe useful, relevant, or just
want to share

Steve and I have already added the info for our strokers on the 311s Forum. If
anyone needs mine for an for an example I will send it out to the list.

Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed

From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Thu Jan 24 21:14:27 2008
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (Mike H.)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:14:27 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Stroker Poll Info for the List
Message-ID: <00df01c85f08$c6afb480$6500a8c0@lap>

For those who would rather provide stroker info through the list, this is what
were looking for:

1. Head, valves, intake manifold modifications

2. Pistons, rods, crankshaft (custom, H20 dished, U20 flat tops, NISMO or U20
crank, etc.)

3. Camshaft grind and by what company; any and all specs you can provide:
intake duration, exhaust duration (if different), and lift. These
specs are often given with an advertised lift number such as .050", or some
other number by the grinder)

4. Valve lash

5. Carburetors 1600 or 2000 (or other, FI, etc.)

6. Carb jet size .090 or .010

7. Carb needle designation (this NOT the needle and seat in the float chamber)

8. Ignition distributor (stock or electronic, Gary Boone EI, etc.)

9. Timing settings

10. Cooling system (stock R16, U20, or custom radiators) thermostat
temperature, and average running temperature

11. Any other additional comments or info that maybe useful, relevant, or just
want to share

Steve and I have already added the info for our strokers on the 311s Forum. If
anyone needs mine for an for an example I will send it out to the list.

Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed

From fred.davidson at sympatico.ca  Fri Jan 25 07:36:05 2008
From: fred.davidson at sympatico.ca (Fred Davidson)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:36:05 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Comp Springs
Message-ID: <000301c85f5f$a1dc99a0$1a76e2d1@DDBHLZ81>

Hi:

 

I am restoring the suspension in my '69  2000.  I have had comp spring,
original type purchased in the early eighties, that have performed well and
are in good condition. Has anyone experience or opinions as how they old
ones compare with the new comp springs, now available. The car is street
driven with some autocross, track use.  

 

Thanks

 

Fred

'69 2000

Ontario, Canada

From tminerpcav at aol.com  Fri Jan 25 08:49:40 2008
From: tminerpcav at aol.com (tminerpcav at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:49:40 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Car Cover for Roadster
In-Reply-To: <274489.25054.qm@web90607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <274489.25054.qm@web90607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CA2D8107D0C386-14A8-42AB@WEBMAIL-DC11.sysops.aol.com>

Erik,



I bought two Noah covers from California Car Covers and they fit like a glove.? The have a specific pattern for our Roadsters.



Tim Miner


---- Original Message ----
From: Erik Miller <funkaholik at yahoo.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 2:00 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Car Cover for Roadster




Apologies if this has been discussed already, but does anyone know what brand / 
model # of car covers fits our roadsters?  I'm looking for something 
weatherproof as my car will have to be stored outside for a while. I've used the 
"Noah" cover on my Mustang and it works great outdoors.  When I go to car cover 
sites, the first thing they want you to do is select make/model of car, and of 
course there's no Datsun listed.  Thanks!  BTW, I looked on 311s.org for this 
info, but couldn't find it there.  Might be a good idea to include a list of 
covers there.


  Erik Miller
 1970 SPL311-29945
 


       
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From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan 25 08:58:39 2008
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 07:58:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Car Cover for Roadster
In-Reply-To: <8CA2D8107D0C386-14A8-42AB@WEBMAIL-DC11.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <426638.44840.qm@web81413.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Go to http://www.calcarcover.com/cover_find.aspx, select "Nissan (Datsun)" under "Make" and you will see "Fairlady 1600 & 2000" in the "Model" list. Odd thing, though, is that they have the "year" going from 1961 to 1967.

I'd be afraid that I'd get a low-windshield cover - which probably wouldn't fit correctly on a high windshield '68 to '70 model.

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA
'70 2000 SRL311-13291

tminerpcav at aol.com wrote: Erik,



I bought two Noah covers from California Car Covers and they fit like a glove.? The have a specific pattern for our Roadsters.



Tim Miner


---- Original Message ----
From: Erik Miller 
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 2:00 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Car Cover for Roadster




Apologies if this has been discussed already, but does anyone know what brand / 
model # of car covers fits our roadsters?  I'm looking for something 
weatherproof as my car will have to be stored outside for a while. I've used the 
"Noah" cover on my Mustang and it works great outdoors.  When I go to car cover 
sites, the first thing they want you to do is select make/model of car, and of 
course there's no Datsun listed.  Thanks!  BTW, I looked on 311s.org for this 
info, but couldn't find it there.  Might be a good idea to include a list of 
covers there.


  Erik Miller
 1970 SPL311-29945

From fj20spl311 at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 25 16:11:42 2008
From: fj20spl311 at yahoo.com (philip erickson)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:11:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Car Cover
In-Reply-To: <mailman.27.1201287603.16168.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <416482.22477.qm@web31915.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

  I have bought both a Low windshield and a high windshield cover from covercraft.
  The "Low" fits both cars very good.....Sent the "High" back to be altered because the fit was SO BAD.
   
  Very good about altering the cover, but the "Low" still fits better even after they altered the cover.
   
  Phil
  67.5 SPL
  69 SRL  
  Both FJ20 Power


       
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From dcon48 at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 25 16:17:45 2008
From: dcon48 at yahoo.com (rick celis)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:17:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator w/ regulator
Message-ID: <364996.12583.qm@web90405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello everyone,
I'm having electrical problems with my 70 1600 where the battery isn't being recharged. I had my alternator rebuilt and the regulator changed and was working good for about 2 months then died. I had the alternator tested and it is only putting out 12.3 volts or so at idle and does not reach 13.5 until about 2700 rpm. I figure it is a bad rebuild or faulty regulator. I would rather get a stronger alternator with a built in regulator but don't know of any. Does anyone know of any that will fit with minor or no modification? Also what do they go for?

Thank You
Rick Celi70 1600

       
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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Fri Jan 25 18:40:59 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:40:59 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Comp Springs
In-Reply-To: <000301c85f5f$a1dc99a0$1a76e2d1@DDBHLZ81>
Message-ID: <001001c85fbc$817136f0$cbaa8e45@chrissy>

A bit off the topic, but for reference, I have the old style comps front and
rear on my 69 2000.  I'm assuming they are the old style, the car was last
on the road in the early 90'sand sat for years before I owned it.  They were
pretty awful with Koni adjustable shocks, but I went to KYB GR2's and the
ride is phenominal.  Very nice on the highway, and can tollerate the
occasional "OH S*#@T" whrn you don't see the big dip in the road.  There is
probably some compromise and the track handling mey not be as good as the
Konis, but no chipped teeth.

Dave
ECR


-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Davidson [mailto:fred.davidson at sympatico.ca]

I am restoring the suspension in my '69  2000.  I have had comp spring,
original type purchased in the early eighties, that have performed well and
are in good condition. Has anyone experience or opinions as how they old
ones compare with the new comp springs, now available. The car is street
driven with some autocross, track use.



T
Fred

'69 2000

Ontario, Canada

From tom at datsun2000.com  Fri Jan 25 20:16:49 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:16:49 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator w/ regulator
In-Reply-To: <364996.12583.qm@web90405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BBEDIFCDCKGJDOGMACDMIEPCCAAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

Rick,

There are articles about installing a 63 Amp GM alternator on your car on
311s.org.  I have a detailed description of my installation on the TECH page
of datsun2000.com.  This is a very good modification.  Especially if you are
thinking about adding a modern radio or headlights that draw more power from
the battery.  The original alternator is just enough for the car.  The GM
gives you all kinds of room to add current devouring devices.

I purchased my alternator from a wrecking yard for $20.00 and probably spent
more than that for the inline fuse holder and other misc. stuff.  In the end
I sacrificed one of my wife's nylon cutting boards to make a fuse and relay
mounting panel under the hood, and a mount for the alarm and audip power amp
in the trunk.  The relays are for headlight wiring upgrades.  When I made
the insulated mounting panels I included a 1/4" stud to act as a post to
make all of the electrical connections, both under the hood and in the
trunk.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of rick celis
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 3:18 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator w/ regulator


Hello everyone,
I'm having electrical problems with my 70 1600 where the battery isn't being
recharged. I had my alternator rebuilt and the regulator changed and was
working good for about 2 months then died. I had the alternator tested and
it is only putting out 12.3 volts or so at idle and does not reach 13.5
until about 2700 rpm. I figure it is a bad rebuild or faulty regulator. I
would rather get a stronger alternator with a built in regulator but don't
know of any. Does anyone know of any that will fit with minor or no
modification? Also what do they go for?

Thank You
Rick Celi70 1600

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Jan 25 20:43:29 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:43:29 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator w/ regulator
In-Reply-To: <364996.12583.qm@web90405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002d01c85fcd$9e2ef0f0$6501a8c0@xp>

<http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.Electrical>


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of rick celis
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 3:18 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator w/ regulator


Hello everyone,
I'm having electrical problems with my 70 1600 where the battery isn't being
recharged. I had my alternator rebuilt and the regulator changed and was
working good for about 2 months then died. I had the alternator tested and
it is only putting out 12.3 volts or so at idle and does not reach 13.5
until about 2700 rpm. I figure it is a bad rebuild or faulty regulator. I
would rather get a stronger alternator with a built in regulator but don't
know of any. Does anyone know of any that will fit with minor or no
modification? Also what do they go for?

Thank You
Rick Celi70 1600


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From machworx at gmail.com  Fri Jan 25 23:36:04 2008
From: machworx at gmail.com (Richard Schnoor)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 01:36:04 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator w/ regulator
In-Reply-To: <364996.12583.qm@web90405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <364996.12583.qm@web90405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <597504c80801252236y4654ba0fg55f76b19151d0bfe@mail.gmail.com>

Mr Hyde is correct. I did it to both of my roadsters decades ago....

On 1/25/08, rick celis <dcon48 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
> I'm having electrical problems with my 70 1600 where the battery isn't
> being recharged. I had my alternator rebuilt and the regulator changed and
> was working good for about 2 months then died. I had the alternator tested
> and it is only putting out 12.3 volts or so at idle and does not reach
> 13.5 until about 2700 rpm. I figure it is a bad rebuild or faulty
> regulator. I would rather get a stronger alternator with a built in
> regulator but don't know of any. Does anyone know of any that will fit with
> minor or no modification? Also what do they go for?
>
> Thank You
> Rick Celi70 1600
>
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Sat Jan 26 08:59:54 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 10:59:54 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Car Cover
In-Reply-To: <416482.22477.qm@web31915.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CA2E4BA0237903-1668-37DE@webmail-md16.sysops.aol.com>

I used the generic Covercraft car cover for a small car, sized for a 
Mada Miata they said,
, and it fits fine.

Linda
68 1600

-----Original Message-----
From: philip erickson <fj20spl311 at yahoo.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 3:11 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Car Cover
  I have bought both a Low windshield and a high windshield cover from
covercraft.
   The "Low" fits both cars very good.....Sent the "High" back to be 
altered
because the fit was SO BAD.

   Very good about altering the cover, but the "Low" still fits better 
even after
they altered the cover.

  Phil
  67.5 SPL
  69 SRL
  Both FJ20 Power



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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Sat Jan 26 12:46:37 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 14:46:37 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator w/ regulator
In-Reply-To: <597504c80801252236y4654ba0fg55f76b19151d0bfe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001e01c86054$2ac852f0$cbaa8e45@chrissy>

I did a GM conversion also, but I left the alternator on the drivers side.
Plenty of room, no fabrication.  Just need a longer belt. I used a Corvette
alternator, slightly larger deep groove pullyWas very easy, follow the
instructions on 311's and elsewhere.  I can send some pics taken while I did
it if anyone wants

Dave Brisco
 ECR
-----Original Message-----
>
> Hello everyone,
> I'm having electrical problems with my 70 1600 where the battery isn't
> being recharged. I had my alternator rebuilt and the regulator changed
> and was working good for about 2 months then died. I had the
> alternator tested and it is only putting out 12.3 volts or so at idle
> and does not reach 13.5 until about 2700 rpm. I figure it is a bad
> rebuild or faulty regulator. I would rather get a stronger alternator
> with a built in regulator but don't know of any. Does anyone know of
> any that will fit with minor or no modification? Also what do they go
> for?
>
> Thank You
> Rick Celi70 1600

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Sat Jan 26 12:49:38 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 14:49:38 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Car Cover for Roadster
In-Reply-To: <426638.44840.qm@web81413.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E1JIr1u-00067i-H6@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Linda wrote: "I used the generic Covercraft car cover for a small car, sized
for a Mazda Miata they said, and it fits fine."

Please remember that you're looking at a car cover. Its overall size and
SHAPE are most important. These aren't pantyhose. An early roadster is
(stock) only 1.02 inches shorter (max roof height) than a '70 (51.18" vs.
52.20"). My "generic" cover came from Costco over a year ago. It was noted
as "sports car". It fits well, a little droopy at the ends points, but it
fits. It does its job. It keeps the car dry, snow, ice, dust (or pollen,
depending on the time of the year) free.
Just my $0.02, (This email won't go in HTML, so I can't use the friggin
"cents" sign, HAHAHAHA)
Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Gary McCormick
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 10:59 AM
To: tminerpcav at aol.com; funkaholik at yahoo.com;
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Car Cover for Roadster

Go to http://www.calcarcover.com/cover_find.aspx, select "Nissan (Datsun)"
under "Make" and you will see "Fairlady 1600 & 2000" in the "Model" list.
Odd thing, though, is that they have the "year" going from 1961 to 1967.

I'd be afraid that I'd get a low-windshield cover - which probably wouldn't
fit correctly on a high windshield '68 to '70 model.

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA
'70 2000 SRL311-13291

tminerpcav at aol.com wrote: Erik,



I bought two Noah covers from California Car Covers and they fit like a
glove.? The have a specific pattern for our Roadsters.



Tim Miner


---- Original Message ----
From: Erik Miller 
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 2:00 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Car Cover for Roadster




Apologies if this has been discussed already, but does anyone know what
brand / 
model # of car covers fits our roadsters?  I'm looking for something 
weatherproof as my car will have to be stored outside for a while. I've used
the 
"Noah" cover on my Mustang and it works great outdoors.  When I go to car
cover 
sites, the first thing they want you to do is select make/model of car, and
of 
course there's no Datsun listed.  Thanks!  BTW, I looked on 311s.org for
this 
info, but couldn't find it there.  Might be a good idea to include a list of

covers there.


  Erik Miller
 1970 SPL311-29945
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From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Sat Jan 26 13:51:47 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 15:51:47 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Death Rattle? Input DESPERATELY requested
Message-ID: <E1JIs02-0000tR-O1@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi folks,

Loreli's U20 "heart" has begun to have a "murmur". I noticed a rather loud
noise (this came after a few days of having "fun" on some wet streets and
parking lots). This isn't a little rattle at start up then disappears, as
Gordon's site suggests. (Thank you Gordon, I LOVE your Garage!). This is a
somewhat more serious problem I fear. 

I have a noise that is coming from the front-top of the engine. I pulled the
valve cover, used tin foil as a temp valve cover to avoid the spray of oil,
and now am convinced that this sound is coming from the upper timing chain
area. I used Gordon's suggestion on rolling backwards in second gear, and
confirmed that the chain touches the "Evil-L" (and still has a little
slack). There is still over a 1/3 inch of piston showing on the tensioner
with the "tight" side of the chain being ON the tensioner.  Here are my
questions:

 

What ID and OD washers should I be looking for to temporarily fix this issue
(shims)? 

 

Do I have a month or two of limited/normal driving (50-100 miles per week?)
prior to replacement of the chain? I go back to work on Monday after 6
months off. I need a temp fix AND a month or two to get back to "financially
solvent".

 

Can I make my own gasket (temporary) from some paper gasket material?

Your help desperately needed ASAP!!!

Matt

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Sat Jan 26 14:19:55 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:19:55 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Death Rattle? Input DESPERATELY requested
In-Reply-To: <E1JIs02-0000tR-O1@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <PLEKIPKLOPKJCCDNMINGOEIKCHAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>

First, are you sure that it isn't a valve adjustment problem? Also, are you
low on oil? Check that before you panic.

As to the shims, I made a set of shims from some standard hardware store
washers. I did have to grind off one side so they would fit, since the
tensioner shaft is fairly close to the engine side of the tensioner block.
Unfortunately I can't find those shims, so I can't tell you for sure what
size they were.

But I did take some measurements that might help. The tensioner shaft is
0.565" OD. That puts it between 9/16" (0.5625) and 19/32" (0.5937), so if
you can find some 19/32" ID washers at the hardware store, you can fake it
with those.

I also found a set of custom shims in my stuff. I think I got them from Dick
Tillinger many years ago (I really should get my garage organized). These
shims have an ID of 0.60" and an OD of 0.90", so those are the dimensions
you are shooting for.

I would advise addressing this as soon as possible. If it is making noise
all the time (and it isn't valve adjustment), that's not a good thing.

If you can wait a few days, I can send you the set of shims and a couple of
tensioner gaskets. I just can't get them in the mail before Monday. If you
want to do that, reply to me offline with your mailing address.

Gordon

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 12:52 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Death Rattle? Input DESPERATELY requested


Hi folks,

Loreli's U20 "heart" has begun to have a "murmur". I noticed a rather loud
noise (this came after a few days of having "fun" on some wet streets and
parking lots). This isn't a little rattle at start up then disappears, as
Gordon's site suggests. (Thank you Gordon, I LOVE your Garage!). This is a
somewhat more serious problem I fear.

I have a noise that is coming from the front-top of the engine. I pulled the
valve cover, used tin foil as a temp valve cover to avoid the spray of oil,
and now am convinced that this sound is coming from the upper timing chain
area. I used Gordon's suggestion on rolling backwards in second gear, and
confirmed that the chain touches the "Evil-L" (and still has a little
slack). There is still over a 1/3 inch of piston showing on the tensioner
with the "tight" side of the chain being ON the tensioner.  Here are my
questions:



What ID and OD washers should I be looking for to temporarily fix this issue
(shims)?



Do I have a month or two of limited/normal driving (50-100 miles per week?)
prior to replacement of the chain? I go back to work on Monday after 6
months off. I need a temp fix AND a month or two to get back to "financially
solvent".



Can I make my own gasket (temporary) from some paper gasket material?

Your help desperately needed ASAP!!!

Matt
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From roadster68 at shaw.ca  Sat Jan 26 14:31:16 2008
From: roadster68 at shaw.ca (Larry Dziuba)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 14:31:16 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 68-70 soft top frame question  - dial up users,
 please don't open
References: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGMEPNDDAA.tom@datsun2000.com>
Message-ID: <006901c86062$c8a75490$6401a8c0@useravjfzd6udp>

Mine has always had the 1/4" spacer in the centre clamp.  Did one of you say 
t the side clamps have a spacer too?  I may have to try to manipulate the 
washers again to see if I can get the centre clamp guide to line up better. 
Larry.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" <tom at datsun2000.com>
To: "Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>; 
"Matthew A. Smith" <matthews517 at earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 68-70 soft top frame question - dial up users, 
please don't open


> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 5:55 PM
> To: 'Larry Dziuba'; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 68-70 soft top frame question - dial up users,
> please don't open
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>> I also carry a 1" C-clamp and snug down my center latch before I get on
> the
> interstate. It gets installed in a U position, points up, since scratches 
> on
> the latch are MUCH easier to live with than no top!
>
> I played around with all three of the windshield clamps when the top shop
> forgot to put the spacer back in the center clamp.  After making a new
> center spacer (Shasta was too close to wait for them to open) and playing
> with the gap by adding and removing washers I finally found a spacing that
> allowed me to clamp the top frame down and it did not pop off.  The 
> problem
> then was the side clamps.  Figuring what was good for the gander is good 
> for
> the goose I made thin spacers for each side clamp made things much more
> reliable.  I have hit some solid bumps without popping the clamps off of 
> the
> windshield.  They are now solid, easy to clamp and release, and do not
> rattle at all.
>
> To clamp the top I start with the outside clamps and the center clamp 
> lines
> up without any problem.
>
> Tom
> 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
> Portland
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From tom at datsun2000.com  Sat Jan 26 21:25:14 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:25:14 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 68-70 soft top frame question  - dial up users,
 please don't open
In-Reply-To: <006901c86062$c8a75490$6401a8c0@useravjfzd6udp>
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGGECJDEAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

I was looking for some way to stop the rattles when I wondered if a spacer
worked in the center, what would spacers on the sides do.  For me they did
wonders, but they are thinner than the center spacer.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Dziuba [mailto:roadster68 at shaw.ca]
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 1:31 PM
To: tom at datsun2000.com; Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net; Matthew A.
Smith
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 68-70 soft top frame question - dial up users,
please don't open


Mine has always had the 1/4" spacer in the centre clamp.  Did one of you say
t the side clamps have a spacer too?  I may have to try to manipulate the
washers again to see if I can get the centre clamp guide to line up better.
Larry.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" <tom at datsun2000.com>
To: "Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>;
"Matthew A. Smith" <matthews517 at earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 68-70 soft top frame question - dial up users,
please don't open


> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 5:55 PM
> To: 'Larry Dziuba'; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 68-70 soft top frame question - dial up users,
> please don't open
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>> I also carry a 1" C-clamp and snug down my center latch before I get on
> the
> interstate. It gets installed in a U position, points up, since scratches
> on
> the latch are MUCH easier to live with than no top!
>
> I played around with all three of the windshield clamps when the top shop
> forgot to put the spacer back in the center clamp.  After making a new
> center spacer (Shasta was too close to wait for them to open) and playing
> with the gap by adding and removing washers I finally found a spacing that
> allowed me to clamp the top frame down and it did not pop off.  The
> problem
> then was the side clamps.  Figuring what was good for the gander is good
> for
> the goose I made thin spacers for each side clamp made things much more
> reliable.  I have hit some solid bumps without popping the clamps off of
> the
> windshield.  They are now solid, easy to clamp and release, and do not
> rattle at all.
>
> To clamp the top I start with the outside clamps and the center clamp
> lines
> up without any problem.
>
> Tom
> 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
> Portland
> http://www.datsun2000.com
> http://www.nowroc.org
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From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Sat Jan 26 21:32:51 2008
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (Mike H.)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 22:32:51 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Studs too short for new Panasports
Message-ID: <001a01c8609d$ae1346d0$6500a8c0@lap>

Well I finally got a set of new 15" Panasports for the '67 stroker. There's
one issue, actually it's a problem.
The wheel studs seem too short.  The tapered nuts that came with them will
only go 6 full turns from barely on to full tight. 4 turns on a couple other
studs. At 20 threads (meaning turns) per inch for 7/16 - 20 studs, this means
less than 1/4" to less than 3/8" of bite. I'm sure that's not enough to be
safe. After measuring wheel flange thickness and nut thread lengths, I'm
thinking I need at least 1/2" to 3/4" longer studs but not long enough to
bottom out on the nuts. I have checked the forum and list archives, looking
for a specific replacement, length, brand, or source. When I broke a stud a
few years ago, I bought some of the Corvair studs mentioned on the interchange
list. They would have probably worked but I thought the knurling looked rather
knarley so I just got some from Nissan. And they were the stock ones.... too
short.

Anyone else experience this problem with stock studs and Panasports? Any
help?

Mike Hudson  '67 - 1600

From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com  Sun Jan 27 05:40:28 2008
From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 06:40:28 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Studs too short for new Panasports
In-Reply-To: <001a01c8609d$ae1346d0$6500a8c0@lap>
References: <001a01c8609d$ae1346d0$6500a8c0@lap>
Message-ID: <479C7BBC.902@hornesystemstx.com>

Mike,

I installed the Corvair studs some time back to fit my Nissan alloy 
wheels. They worked great.

Since it's been years since I did it, I'm going from memory. There are 
two different knurling patterns on available Corvair studs, one coarse 
and one fine. I think the fine ones matched fairly closely the factory 
knurling. Once they were in I've had no trouble at all. The studs I 
bought were from Dorman, which should be obtainable from just about any 
non-chain auto parts house.

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Mike H.:
> Well I finally got a set of new 15" Panasports for the '67 stroker. There's
> one issue, actually it's a problem.
> The wheel studs seem too short.  The tapered nuts that came with them will
> only go 6 full turns from barely on to full tight. 4 turns on a couple other
> studs. At 20 threads (meaning turns) per inch for 7/16 - 20 studs, this means
> less than 1/4" to less than 3/8" of bite. I'm sure that's not enough to be
> safe. After measuring wheel flange thickness and nut thread lengths, I'm
> thinking I need at least 1/2" to 3/4" longer studs but not long enough to
> bottom out on the nuts. I have checked the forum and list archives, looking
> for a specific replacement, length, brand, or source. When I broke a stud a
> few years ago, I bought some of the Corvair studs mentioned on the interchange
> list. They would have probably worked but I thought the knurling looked rather
> knarley so I just got some from Nissan. And they were the stock ones.... too
> short.
>
> Anyone else experience this problem with stock studs and Panasports? Any
> help?
>
> Mike Hudson  '67 - 1600
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From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Sun Jan 27 05:56:39 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 07:56:39 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Studs too short for new Panasports
In-Reply-To: <001a01c8609d$ae1346d0$6500a8c0@lap>
Message-ID: <E1JJ73v-0001XB-7Z@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

A while back I purchased studs and nuts from Dean. Part numbers 1545 and
1842, respectively. These were put on my '70 SRL with 15" Panasports. They
fit perfectly.
Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Mike H.
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:33 PM
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: [Roadsters] Studs too short for new Panasports

Well I finally got a set of new 15" Panasports for the '67 stroker. There's
one issue, actually it's a problem.
The wheel studs seem too short.  The tapered nuts that came with them will
only go 6 full turns from barely on to full tight. 4 turns on a couple other
studs. At 20 threads (meaning turns) per inch for 7/16 - 20 studs, this
means
less than 1/4" to less than 3/8" of bite. I'm sure that's not enough to be
safe. After measuring wheel flange thickness and nut thread lengths, I'm
thinking I need at least 1/2" to 3/4" longer studs but not long enough to
bottom out on the nuts. I have checked the forum and list archives, looking
for a specific replacement, length, brand, or source. When I broke a stud a
few years ago, I bought some of the Corvair studs mentioned on the
interchange
list. They would have probably worked but I thought the knurling looked
rather
knarley so I just got some from Nissan. And they were the stock ones.... too
short.

Anyone else experience this problem with stock studs and Panasports? Any
help?

Mike Hudson  '67 - 1600
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From tlkjr at comcast.net  Sun Jan 27 09:02:13 2008
From: tlkjr at comcast.net (Thomas King)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 10:02:13 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] part needed
Message-ID: <5F9807E5-07ED-4D86-8ADA-FEB680FDECCA@comcast.net>

Decided to change over to a gm 3 wire and now trying to find a smog  
bracket in my piles of roadster parts to no avail. If anyone has one  
they would be willing  to part with/sell please contact off list.

Thomas King
1968 srl et all

From datsunsports at rogers.com  Sun Jan 27 12:57:23 2008
From: datsunsports at rogers.com (Al Boettcher)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:57:23 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for "A" type jet blocks early solexes
Message-ID: <002801c8611e$d5718940$6501a8c0@datsunspcb0fcp>

I am looking for 4  A type jetblocks for the early solexes...I will buy or
trade for 4...
Any leads welcome...they do not have to be new....
Happy Motoring
Al Boettcher  68 solex
Ottawa  Ontario

From roadster68 at shaw.ca  Sun Jan 27 10:45:14 2008
From: roadster68 at shaw.ca (Larry Dziuba)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 10:45:14 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Studs too short for new Panasports
References: <E1JJ73v-0001XB-7Z@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <002e01c8610c$5f394630$6401a8c0@useravjfzd6udp>

I received my 15" Panasports last year and had them put on at a decent tire 
shop.  They never mentioned anything about a short stud problem.  He did 
point out that I had 7/16" on front & 20? mm studs on the back.  I thought 
that was odd but that nothing else.  Am I the only guy with Panasports out 
there with stock length studs?  Larry.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matthew A. Smith" <matthews517 at earthlink.net>
To: "'Mike H.'" <twobeaners at earthlink.net>; "'Datsun Roadster List'" 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Studs too short for new Panasports


>A while back I purchased studs and nuts from Dean. Part numbers 1545 and
> 1842, respectively. These were put on my '70 SRL with 15" Panasports. They
> fit perfectly.
> Matt

From bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com  Sun Jan 27 10:56:28 2008
From: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com (Brian Hollands)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 12:56:28 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Studs too short for new Panasports
In-Reply-To: <001a01c8609d$ae1346d0$6500a8c0@lap>
Message-ID: <20080127175621.ZKCA10616.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B>

As a rule of thumb, the nut should engage the stud to a depth at least equal
to the diameter of the stud - 7/16's in our case.  I'd put the longer studs
on.

________________________________
BRIAN HOLLANDS
69 2000
Tampa, FL

-----Original Message-----
this means
less than 1/4" to less than 3/8" of bite. I'm sure that's not enough to be
safe. 

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From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Sun Jan 27 16:09:43 2008
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (Mike H.)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 17:09:43 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw:  Studs too short for new Panasports
Message-ID: <00bc01c86139$b3b828c0$6500a8c0@lap>

Brian Hollands passed this on to me in his effort to help with my short
wheel stud problem. My thanks goes out to the numerous replies I've received
on this issue. I thought this sounded like something I should share even
though many probably already know. It was news to me.

Also, as I've told Brain and a few others, I think I've found a suitable
replacement from Jegs and Summit. Moser 7/16" - 20 x 1 3/4" and
the same made by Dorman, with the right knurl diameter as compared to the
new Nissan ones I have left over. As it turns out, that size and length  are
spec'd for the '60 to '82 Corvette. Sounds better than a Corvair
replacement, eh?
No offense to Corvair guys, one of my best friends collects them.
Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker / 5-speed

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Hollands" <bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Studs too short for new Panasports


> As a rule of thumb, the nut should engage the stud to a depth at least
equal
> to the diameter of the stud - 7/16's in our case.  I'd put the longer
studs
> on.
>
> ________________________________
> BRIAN HOLLANDS
> 69 2000
> Tampa, FL

From hallosb at juno.com  Sun Jan 27 17:34:37 2008
From: hallosb at juno.com (hallosb at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 00:34:37 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw:  Studs too short for new Panasports
Message-ID: <20080127.173437.17719.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com>

Mike,
Please, share the installed length of the stud.  I'm running 15" Panasports
with stock studs and never really thought much about it.  Seemed like I was
catching plenty of thread. The nuts are tapered to catch additional thread.
When I measure from the hub on the front or the drum on the rear, I get 7/8"
of stud sticking out.  If this isn't enough thread, looks like I should pick
up some new studs also.
Dan McHatton
'66 1600
-------------------------
Moser 7/16" - 20 x 1 3/4" and the same made by Dorman, with the right knurl
diameter as compared to the new Nissan ones I have left over.

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From poontang188 at hotmail.com  Mon Jan 28 05:50:56 2008
From: poontang188 at hotmail.com (Scott Sheeler)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 07:50:56 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Spotted Denver
Message-ID: <BAY139-W37A1AAC460776A63B2B2D2FC340@phx.gbl>

1969 maroon with black top.  SB on I-25 at 120th Ave.  5:20 AM.  CO tag
VST-261.
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From rksmith46 at hotmail.com  Mon Jan 28 09:31:00 2008
From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:31:00 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw:  Studs too short for new Panasports
In-Reply-To: <20080127.173437.17719.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20080127.173437.17719.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <BAY124-W147A30F9E4105EFB0407BBF340@phx.gbl>

hi mike, if your wheel nuts are tubular, and go inside the wheel, then you can
get longer tube nuts.

if they are regular tapered nuts, then as gilda radner used to say on snl,
"never mind".

                                             bob smith, 69 srl311.> From:
hallosb at juno.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 00:34:37 +0000> To:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fw: Studs too short
for new Panasports> > Mike,> Please, share the installed length of the stud.
I'm running 15" Panasports> with stock studs and never really thought much
about it. Seemed like I was> catching plenty of thread. The nuts are tapered
to catch additional thread.> When I measure from the hub on the front or the
drum on the rear, I get 7/8"> of stud sticking out. If this isn't enough
thread, looks like I should pick> up some new studs also.> Dan McHatton> '66
1600> -------------------------> Moser 7/16" - 20 x 1 3/4" and the same made
by Dorman, with the right knurl> diameter as compared to the new Nissan ones I
have left over.> >
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From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Mon Jan 28 09:33:19 2008
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (nmleeds at mindspring.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 08:33:19 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [Roadsters] Glove box - FUse box mounting
Message-ID: <3897116.1201538000090.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I know this isn't a part of the car people normally show off, but does anyone have a picture of the inside of their glove box, and the mounting of the fuse box.

N

From rksmith46 at hotmail.com  Mon Jan 28 09:50:11 2008
From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:50:11 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Death Rattle? Input DESPERATELY requested
In-Reply-To: <E1JIs02-0000tR-O1@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1JIs02-0000tR-O1@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAY124-W24F21E4D15D8A89D8863A6BF340@phx.gbl>

hi matt, have you tried replacing the upper tens., in case it is bad ? with
that much slack, it  appears the chain is stretched, and i wouldnt recommend
driving it until you fix the prob. if the  chain breaks, then you bend at
least 2 valves. if the chain was recently replaced, then, instead of chain
stretch, you might have too thin of a head (machined too much). if the chain
is new, then you can get shims to go under the cam towers, to remove some of
the slack. you can do this, of course, without removing the head.

                                  good luck, bob smith, 69 srl 311> From:
matthews517 at earthlink.net> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Sat, 26
Jan 2008 15:51:47 -0500> Subject: [Roadsters] Death Rattle? Input DESPERATELY
requested> > Hi folks,> > Loreli's U20 "heart" has begun to have a "murmur". I
noticed a rather loud> noise (this came after a few days of having "fun" on
some wet streets and> parking lots). This isn't a little rattle at start up
then disappears, as> Gordon's site suggests. (Thank you Gordon, I LOVE your
Garage!). This is a> somewhat more serious problem I fear. > > I have a noise
that is coming from the front-top of the engine. I pulled the> valve cover,
used tin foil as a temp valve cover to avoid the spray of oil,> and now am
convinced that this sound is coming from the upper timing chain> area. I used
Gordon's suggestion on rolling backwards in second gear, and> confirmed that
the chain touches the "Evil-L" (and still has a little> slack). There is still
over a 1/3 inch of piston showing on the tensioner> with the "tight" side of
the chain being ON the tensioner. Here are my> questions:> > > > What ID and
OD washers should I be looking for to temporarily fix this issue> (shims)? > >
> > Do I have a month or two of limited/normal driving (50-100 miles per
week?)> prior to replacement of the chain? I go back to work on Monday after
6> months off. I need a temp fix AND a month or two to get back to
"financially> solvent".> > > > Can I make my own gasket (temporary) from some
paper gasket material?> > Your help desperately needed ASAP!!!> > Matt>
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From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Mon Jan 28 16:23:58 2008
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (Mike H.)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:23:58 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Short Panasport studs - Update
Message-ID: <004f01c86204$dc5490e0$6500a8c0@lap>

Just wanted to give the list and all those who replied to help, an update. I
found longer studs (1 3/4") that fit and provide me with a full 3/4" of thread
tightening with the 15" Panasports I bought.  The nuts still have ample space
left so they won't bottom out. So far I'd say the length is perfect, at least
on the axle. They're listed for the ' 60 to ' 82 Corvette and ' 67 to ' 69
Camaro.

Here are some specs I researched if they might be useful to anyone:

Nissan Stud Part # 40221-14600   Stud length 1.277"    Knurl Dia. - .468
Knurl length - .25"
Dist. from head to end of knurl - .34"   Shoulder length - .5"   Shoulder Dia.
- .45"   Thread length - .75

Moser part #8259 7/16-20 x 1/3/4"  ('60 to '82 Corvette,  '67 to '69 Camaro)
Jegs, Summit, Moser Engineering

Dorman #610-259   ('60 to '82 Corvette,  '67 to '69 Camaro)
Specifications:
Head Code: 259
Knurl Diameter: .475 in
Thread Pitch: Right
Shoulder Length: 27/64 in
Thread Size: 7/16-20
Length: 1-3/4 in
Type: Serrated Stud
Features: Zinc plated for corrosion resistance

I didn't have to pull the axle but it still took 3 hours, not too bad.
Tommorow the fronts!
Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker / 5-speed

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Mon Jan 28 16:48:29 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:48:29 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Short Panasport studs - Update
In-Reply-To: <004f01c86204$dc5490e0$6500a8c0@lap>
Message-ID: <E1JJdiG-0003gB-BR@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Mike,
Great info you provided there. Thank you!!!
Have your impact wrench and a BFH (Big F'n Hammer) ready when you do the
fronts. Those bolts holding together the hub tend to be TIGHT!!!! A
hydraulic press is in my "tools wish list". Maybe Santa will bring me one
this year (He's stronger than the Easter Bunny and a press won't fit in my
Easter basket). :-)
Matt Smith   

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Mike H.
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 6:24 PM
To: Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net
Subject: [Roadsters] Short Panasport studs - Update

Just wanted to give the list and all those who replied to help, an update. I
found longer studs (1 3/4") that fit and provide me with a full 3/4" of
thread
tightening with the 15" Panasports I bought.  The nuts still have ample
space
left so they won't bottom out. So far I'd say the length is perfect, at
least
on the axle. They're listed for the ' 60 to ' 82 Corvette and ' 67 to ' 69
Camaro.

Here are some specs I researched if they might be useful to anyone:

Nissan Stud Part # 40221-14600   Stud length 1.277"    Knurl Dia. - .468
Knurl length - .25"
Dist. from head to end of knurl - .34"   Shoulder length - .5"   Shoulder
Dia.
- .45"   Thread length - .75

Moser part #8259 7/16-20 x 1/3/4"  ('60 to '82 Corvette,  '67 to '69 Camaro)
Jegs, Summit, Moser Engineering

Dorman #610-259   ('60 to '82 Corvette,  '67 to '69 Camaro)
Specifications:
Head Code: 259
Knurl Diameter: .475 in
Thread Pitch: Right
Shoulder Length: 27/64 in
Thread Size: 7/16-20
Length: 1-3/4 in
Type: Serrated Stud
Features: Zinc plated for corrosion resistance

I didn't have to pull the axle but it still took 3 hours, not too bad.
Tommorow the fronts!
Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker / 5-speed
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From graemes at internode.on.net  Mon Jan 28 19:46:28 2008
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 13:16:28 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] REMOVING Short Wheelstuds.
In-Reply-To: <E1JJdiG-0003gB-BR@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <004f01c86204$dc5490e0$6500a8c0@lap>
	<E1JJdiG-0003gB-BR@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <001601c86221$28195210$426fa8c0@desktop>

"Mike,
Great info you provided there. Thank you!!!
Have your impact wrench and a BFH (Big F'n Hammer) ready when you do the
fronts. Those bolts holding together the hub tend to be TIGHT!!!! A
hydraulic press is in my "tools wish list"."

Also, I have found a Ball Joint Separator tool ideal for pressing out wheel
studs.
I mean the screw type not the dreaded pickle fork.
Leave a factory type nut on the stud with the flat side flush with the end
of the thread.
Position the BJS and wind it up to apply a good deal of compression.
Then gently tap the tool to give a shock to the threaded end of the stud and
it will start to move out of the hub.
Retighten the tool and repeat the process and the stud will just fall out.
Interestingly one of my Nissan FSMs list a tool just like a BJS for removing
studs.
When you insert the new stud, use an old factory wheel nut to pull it into
the hub.
Wind it on with the flat facing the hub and the taper facing out.
You will need a few washers or a spacer to allow the nut to bottom out on
the hub face.
Depending on the length of the new studs, you may need to remove the front
hubs and extract the rear axle to gain enough room to insert the longer
studs.

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From chalsted at comcast.net  Mon Jan 28 16:19:27 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:19:27 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Glove box - FUse box mounting
References: <3897116.1201538000090.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <000801c86204$3d3eb490$136fa343@craigscomputer>

different for different years...what year is your roadster?

Craig

From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 31 13:05:26 2008
From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:05:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] All Nissan/Datsuns show
Message-ID: <445952.19865.qm@web81015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Oxnard CA offical Z Meet, Feb 2, 2008 
  Posted by: 280_Z_car 
  Date: Yesterday, 12:09PM

  -------------------------------------------------------- 
This was posted to zcar.com



What: 5th Annual All nissan/infiniti/Datsun Meet/B B Q 
When: February 2nd, 2008 @ 12:00 
Where: 1601 S. Harbor Blvd 
Oxnard, CA 93033 (beach/park) 



Alright Fellas! This is our 5th annual all Nissan/Infiniti/Datsun meet i think...i lost track of how many years ive been doing the damn thing!. The past 4 meets have been a HUGE success, even though it rained last year, it was still huge and we did our thing and represented! so we decided to throw another one this year and we know it'll be even more successful than the last few years. Last year we had a huge turnout of over 220 cars which equates to over 300 people, a few vendors, and some badass cars!! I would not want to miss this event. We will be barbecuing again because last year lots of people came hungry but since the meet doesnt revolve around food as much as it does the cars, food quantities will not be great like other years. Our meets have quickly become to be known as the biggest Nissan meets in the United States!! If you guys have any questions feel free to email me @ shyne805 (at) yahoo.com, send me a PM, catch me on AIM or even post in this thread. 
. thanks. Its a bit early to be posting this but I want people to know ahead of time..that way people dont make plans/ have time to get time off work, etc!! 
Hopefully the Arizona guys head out this year once again 

So. Cal/Norcal Guys you dont want to miss this! 

Brought to you by the 805 Family 


OFFICIAL RULES FOR THE MEET 

10 commandments: 
1. No loud music 
2. No loud/excessive revving 
3. No burnouts/donuts 
4. No speeding/racing in or around the park area(we dont need un needed attention) 
5. No double parking 
6. No littering 
7. No trash talking allowed 
8. No stealing/vandalism to other people's cars....youre liable to get ur ass kicked 
9. No fighting 
10. Have fun 

From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Wed Jan 30 14:20:19 2008
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:20:19 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Free Hard Top
Message-ID: <b0b0059f0801301320m21a273d8l65fdc82798d65f71@mail.gmail.com>

Hey y'all,
I have a Hard Top for a Low Windshield FREE for the taking. This was given
to me and I decided to keep the one I have, so I am passing it on to someone
in the Roadster community that would like it. Here is the deal though, if
you decide not to keep it you can't sell it, you have to pass it on. Or if
you want this top to replace the one you have you have to pass you old one
on.

This Top has the Glass Rear Window and Glass Side Port Windows. The top is
in good shape. It needs to be prettied up and some new rubber.
If you would like I have pictures I can email. You have to be willing to
pick it up in Riverside California.

~Chris

-- 
'66 1600
Riverside, CA
------------------------------------------------------
This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one.

From tputland at charter.net  Wed Jan 30 15:13:46 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:13:46 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Since the list is so quiet
Message-ID: <20080130171346.7SY1J.433286.root@fepweb13>

I thought I would pose a question to those of you who use ebay...

Does any one have an alternative to selling on ebay? 

I see they are lowering the fee to list an item. But at the same time they are raising the final value fee to almost 10%. I hate to pay them the kind of money they are almost extorting out of the people who use that site. 

And Paypal is just as nuts and is owned by ebay in case any of you didn't know that.

Thanks for the vent!

PEACE :-)

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com  Wed Jan 30 15:43:43 2008
From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:43:43 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Since the list is so quiet
In-Reply-To: <20080130171346.7SY1J.433286.root@fepweb13>
Message-ID: <C3C63D9F.6702%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>

Hey Tim- It is kind of quiet, isn't it?

Here's every alternative I've tried except for robbing a convenience store
and just keeping the car.

Initially it was either the newspaper want ads or the weekly "Wheel Deals"
publication. Better hope someone locally was looking for what you had to
sell. Sent off a couple of Roadsters that way.

Then, as my cars got a bit more specialized, I used to sell them in Hemmings
- now completely Old School.

Then I sold even more specialized cars in the various "Market Letters" that
those marques supported.

Then it was Classifieds 2000 that was bought up by Yahoo and then folded.

Now it's all about ebay. Worldwide exposure, fairly accurate market price -
at least for that week - all at the click of a button. I've now sold 5 or 6
cars on ebay, all with great or near-great results, and very quickly. Yes,
it costs, but it's the way the game is played nowadays - unless your selling
a muscle car at auction.

Then Craigslist became prominent, but only on a local level - they work very
hard to keep it local to the area where the ad is placed.

There is always the auction route. Yuk! Except for my '66 1600 that almost
hit $20,000 at auction, I honestly don't understand why US car auction
bidders seem to have ZERO interest in Datsun Roadsters. I swear you could
run a mint '67 2000 across any block in America and be lucky to break
$5,000. Hopefully that will change. (Frankly, as soon as the "investors" hit
a particular marque it screws things up pretty bad for the real
collectors/enthusiasts.)

The one thing that never seems to change though is that the business model
is always changing.

Best wishes,
Greg
SRL31100494
Roadstering since '75



On 1/30/08 2:13 PM, "Tim" <tputland at charter.net> wrote:

> I thought I would pose a question to those of you who use ebay...
> 
> Does any one have an alternative to selling on ebay?
> 
> I see they are lowering the fee to list an item. But at the same time they are
> raising the final value fee to almost 10%. I hate to pay them the kind of
> money they are almost extorting out of the people who use that site.
> 
> And Paypal is just as nuts and is owned by ebay in case any of you didn't know
> that.
> 
> Thanks for the vent!
> 
> PEACE :-)
> 
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 30 16:16:45 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:16:45 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Free Hard Top
In-Reply-To: <b0b0059f0801301320m21a273d8l65fdc82798d65f71@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b0b0059f0801301320m21a273d8l65fdc82798d65f71@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY106-W2484BDA0839CA56A427F44DF360@phx.gbl>

Chris

thanks for 'pass it forward'

we need to see more of this in our community

From machworx at gmail.com  Wed Jan 30 16:40:09 2008
From: machworx at gmail.com (Richard Schnoor)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:40:09 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Since the list is so quiet
In-Reply-To: <20080130171346.7SY1J.433286.root@fepweb13>
References: <20080130171346.7SY1J.433286.root@fepweb13>
Message-ID: <597504c80801301540r708c6bb2m5ed5345ab7decd7c@mail.gmail.com>

I agree, maybe it's time for someone who's computer savvy to help
competition take it's natural course!

On 1/30/08, Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:
>
> I thought I would pose a question to those of you who use ebay...
>
> Does any one have an alternative to selling on ebay?
>
> I see they are lowering the fee to list an item. But at the same time they
> are raising the final value fee to almost 10%. I hate to pay them the kind
> of money they are almost extorting out of the people who use that site.
>
> And Paypal is just as nuts and is owned by ebay in case any of you didn't
> know that.
>
> Thanks for the vent!
>
> PEACE :-)
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
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From tputland at charter.net  Wed Jan 30 17:17:46 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:17:46 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Free Hard Top
In-Reply-To: <BAY106-W2484BDA0839CA56A427F44DF360@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20080130191746.4OCD7.268981.root@fepweb09>

I have tried to do the pass it forward stuff for Roadster items but have yet to be sent anything that I was told would be given for free. I have had to pay top dollar for used stuff that I half expected to be given. 

Oh well, I will keep giving for free what I can and hope it one day comes back to me. 

Cold as a witch's you know what here in southern WI and looking forward to spring for the VERY FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE!!!

PEACE :-)

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- peter harrison <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com> wrote: 

=============
Chris

thanks for 'pass it forward'

we need to see more of this in our community
________________________________________

From nqrithfordatsun at msn.com  Wed Jan 30 17:20:04 2008
From: nqrithfordatsun at msn.com (Jim InVirginia)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:20:04 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Since the list is so quiet
In-Reply-To: <20080130171346.7SY1J.433286.root@fepweb13>
References: <20080130171346.7SY1J.433286.root@fepweb13>
Message-ID: <BAY109-W2041FA627EF71163E3C46BBF370@phx.gbl>

I havnt bought anything or sold anything on it yet, but Craigs List looks like
the place to do business....its free.  There seems to be one for every major
city, even here in Tidewater Virginia.

Best Regards,
Jim> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:13:46 -0800> From: tputland at charter.net> To:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] Since the list is so
quiet> > I thought I would pose a question to those of you who use ebay...> >
Does any one have an alternative to selling on ebay? > > I see they are
lowering the fee to list an item. But at the same time they are raising the
final value fee to almost 10%. I hate to pay them the kind of money they are
almost extorting out of the people who use that site. > > And Paypal is just
as nuts and is owned by ebay in case any of you didn't know that.> > Thanks
for the vent!> > PEACE :-)> > Tim> Belleville, WI.> '70 SPL AND SRL> Still
clueless but always learning

From BARTERDUDE at aol.com  Wed Jan 30 17:35:36 2008
From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:35:36 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] Since the list is so quiet
Message-ID: <c1b.246987ef.34d271d8@aol.com>

problem is, the list doesn't have global search abilities, at least in my  
limited usage.
 
Gary
 
 
In a message dated 1/30/2008 5:20:18 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
nqrithfordatsun at msn.com writes:

I havnt  bought anything or sold anything on it yet, but Craigs List looks 
like
the  place to do business....its free.  There seems to be one for every  major
city, even here in Tidewater Virginia.

Best  Regards,
Jim> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:13:46 -0800> From:  tputland at charter.net> To:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject:  [Roadsters] Since the list is so
quiet> > I thought I would pose a  question to those of you who use ebay...> >
Does any one have an  alternative to selling on ebay? > > I see they are
lowering the fee  to list an item. But at the same time they are raising the
final value fee  to almost 10%. I hate to pay them the kind of money they are
almost  extorting out of the people who use that site. > > And Paypal is  just
as nuts and is owned by ebay in case any of you didn't know that.>  > Thanks
for the vent!> > PEACE :-)> > Tim> Belleville,  WI.> '70 SPL AND SRL> Still
clueless but always  learning
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Jan 30 19:41:00 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:41:00 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Since the list is so quiet
In-Reply-To: <c1b.246987ef.34d271d8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <003901c863b2$b7b2dc60$6501a8c0@xp>

List too quiet for ya? Venture over to the 311s.org forums. Hasn't been
quiet there in ages.

I have never sold anything on eBay, and my first foray into buying turned
out to be fraud. Lucky to get my money back. Scared me off for a year or so
before trying again. I've since bought some stuff and been outbid on a ton
of other stuff.

I've used craigslist a lot to buy, sell and giveaway. You have to be willing
to deal with the no shows when you're selling and no replies when you're
buying.

There's a couple of ways to widen craigslist searches. One was shutdown by
craigslist in their goal of keeping craigslist local. The ones that still
work are:

<http://crazedlist.org/>
<http://www.craigshelper.com>

Ciao.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of BARTERDUDE at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 4:36 PM
To: nqrithfordatsun at msn.com; tputland at charter.net;
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Since the list is so quiet


problem is, the list doesn't have global search abilities, at least in my
limited usage.

Gary


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Jim InVirginia
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 4:20 PM
To: Tim; datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Since the list is so quiet


I havnt bought anything or sold anything on it yet, but Craigs List looks
like the place to do business....its free.  There seems to be one for every
major city, even here in Tidewater Virginia.

Best Regards,
Jim

From vulforge at aol.com  Thu Jan 31 15:08:55 2008
From: vulforge at aol.com (vulforge at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:08:55 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Craigslist search
Message-ID: <8CA326D012C4F99-CDC-1350@WEBMAIL-DF13.sysops.aol.com>

Here is a link for nationwide search of craigslist: search.restrainingbolt.com/


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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Thu Jan 31 15:13:45 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:13:45 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] All Nissan/Datsuns show
In-Reply-To: <445952.19865.qm@web81015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <445952.19865.qm@web81015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CA326DAE4060AE-218-21AB@webmail-nc03.sysops.aol.com>

Not much notice, unfortunaltely. I guess it's a casual event.

Linda


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom PRATHER <tomet9 at sbcglobal.net>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:05 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] All Nissan/Datsuns show


Oxnard CA offical Z Meet, Feb 2, 2008
  Posted by: 280_Z_car
  Date: Yesterday, 12:09PM

  --------------------------------------------------------
This was posted to zcar.com



What: 5th Annual All nissan/infiniti/Datsun Meet/B B Q
When: February 2nd, 2008 @ 12:00
Where: 1601 S. Harbor Blvd
Oxnard, CA 93033 (beach/park)



Alright Fellas! This is our 5th annual all Nissan/Infiniti/Datsun meet 
i
think...i lost track of how many years ive been doing the damn thing!. 
The past
4 meets have been a HUGE success, even though it rained last year, it 
was still
huge and we did our thing and represented! so we decided to throw 
another one
this year and we know it'll be even more successful than the last few 
years.
Last year we had a huge turnout of over 220 cars which equates to over 
300
people, a few vendors, and some badass cars!! I would not want to miss 
this
event. We will be barbecuing again because last year lots of people 
came hungry
but since the meet doesnt revolve around food as much as it does the 
cars, food
quantities will not be great like other years. Our meets have quickly 
become to
be known as the biggest Nissan meets in the United States!! If you guys 
have any
questions feel free to email me @ shyne805 (at) yahoo.com, send me a 
PM, catch
me on AIM or even post in this thread.
. thanks. Its a bit early to be posting this but I want people to know 
ahead of
time..that way people dont make plans/ have time to get time off work, 
etc!!
Hopefully the Arizona guys head out this year once again

So. Cal/Norcal Guys you dont want to miss this!

Brought to you by the 805 Family


OFFICIAL RULES FOR THE MEET

10 commandments:
1. No loud music
2. No loud/excessive revving
3. No burnouts/donuts
4. No speeding/racing in or around the park area(we dont need un needed
attention)
5. No double parking
6. No littering
7. No trash talking allowed
8. No stealing/vandalism to other people's cars....youre liable to get 
ur ass
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9. No fighting
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From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Thu Jan 31 15:54:30 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:54:30 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] All Nissan/Datsuns show
In-Reply-To: <445952.19865.qm@web81015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E1JKiIa-0005hH-IT@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

It looks like rules 2, 3, and 4, need to be "clarified". :-)
Rule 8 should end in "shot on sight" not "ur ass kicked". That would be the
outcome in the South! LOL!
Matt
P.S. In TN there is no waiting period, no license to purchase, only an 8
hour course to carry "concealed". HAHAHAHAHAHA! 

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Tom PRATHER
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 3:05 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] All Nissan/Datsuns show

Oxnard CA offical Z Meet, Feb 2, 2008 
  Posted by: 280_Z_car 
  Date: Yesterday, 12:09PM

  -------------------------------------------------------- 
This was posted to zcar.com



What: 5th Annual All nissan/infiniti/Datsun Meet/B B Q 
When: February 2nd, 2008 @ 12:00 
Where: 1601 S. Harbor Blvd 
Oxnard, CA 93033 (beach/park) 



Alright Fellas! This is our 5th annual all Nissan/Infiniti/Datsun meet i
think...i lost track of how many years ive been doing the damn thing!. The
past 4 meets have been a HUGE success, even though it rained last year, it
was still huge and we did our thing and represented! so we decided to throw
another one this year and we know it'll be even more successful than the
last few years. Last year we had a huge turnout of over 220 cars which
equates to over 300 people, a few vendors, and some badass cars!! I would
not want to miss this event. We will be barbecuing again because last year
lots of people came hungry but since the meet doesnt revolve around food as
much as it does the cars, food quantities will not be great like other
years. Our meets have quickly become to be known as the biggest Nissan meets
in the United States!! If you guys have any questions feel free to email me
@ shyne805 (at) yahoo.com, send me a PM, catch me on AIM or even post in
this thread. 
. thanks. Its a bit early to be posting this but I want people to know ahead
of time..that way people dont make plans/ have time to get time off work,
etc!! 
Hopefully the Arizona guys head out this year once again 

So. Cal/Norcal Guys you dont want to miss this! 

Brought to you by the 805 Family 


OFFICIAL RULES FOR THE MEET 

10 commandments: 
1. No loud music 
2. No loud/excessive revving 
3. No burnouts/donuts 
4. No speeding/racing in or around the park area(we dont need un needed
attention) 
5. No double parking 
6. No littering 
7. No trash talking allowed 
8. No stealing/vandalism to other people's cars....youre liable to get ur
ass kicked 
9. No fighting 
10. Have fun 
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From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 31 17:12:39 2008
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:12:39 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] All Nissan/Datsuns show
In-Reply-To: <445952.19865.qm@web81015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <445952.19865.qm@web81015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <b0b0059f0801311612g16ef4237jbc20eec94f4d6f17@mail.gmail.com>

I would love to have made this event. But two days notice is no notice. :o(
Maybe next time....

On Jan 31, 2008 12:05 PM, Tom PRATHER <tomet9 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Oxnard CA offical Z Meet, Feb 2, 2008
>  Posted by: 280_Z_car
>  Date: Yesterday, 12:09PM
>
>  --------------------------------------------------------
> This was posted to zcar.com
>
>
>
> What: 5th Annual All nissan/infiniti/Datsun Meet/B B Q
> When: February 2nd, 2008 @ 12:00
> Where: 1601 S. Harbor Blvd
> Oxnard, CA 93033 (beach/park)
>
>
>
> Alright Fellas! This is our 5th annual all Nissan/Infiniti/Datsun meet i
> think...i lost track of how many years ive been doing the damn thing!. The
> past 4 meets have been a HUGE success, even though it rained last year, it
> was still huge and we did our thing and represented! so we decided to throw
> another one this year and we know it'll be even more successful than the
> last few years. Last year we had a huge turnout of over 220 cars which
> equates to over 300 people, a few vendors, and some badass cars!! I would
> not want to miss this event. We will be barbecuing again because last year
> lots of people came hungry but since the meet doesnt revolve around food as
> much as it does the cars, food quantities will not be great like other
> years. Our meets have quickly become to be known as the biggest Nissan meets
> in the United States!! If you guys have any questions feel free to email me
> @ shyne805 (at) yahoo.com, send me a PM, catch me on AIM or even post in
> this thread.
> . thanks. Its a bit early to be posting this but I want people to know
> ahead of time..that way people dont make plans/ have time to get time off
> work, etc!!
> Hopefully the Arizona guys head out this year once again
>
> So. Cal/Norcal Guys you dont want to miss this!
>
> Brought to you by the 805 Family
>
>
> OFFICIAL RULES FOR THE MEET
>
> 10 commandments:
> 1. No loud music
> 2. No loud/excessive revving
> 3. No burnouts/donuts
> 4. No speeding/racing in or around the park area(we dont need un needed
> attention)
> 5. No double parking
> 6. No littering
> 7. No trash talking allowed
> 8. No stealing/vandalism to other people's cars....youre liable to get ur
> ass kicked
> 9. No fighting
> 10. Have fun
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From aultgc at att.net  Thu Jan 31 18:54:05 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:54:05 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Since the list is so quiet
References: <c1b.246987ef.34d271d8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002d01c86475$54106150$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

I couldn't find any global search capability.  I don't choose to search 40 
gizillion sites for roadster parts.

Gary Ault

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To: <nqrithfordatsun at msn.com>; <tputland at charter.net>; 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Since the list is so quiet


> problem is, the list doesn't have global search abilities, at least in my
> limited usage.
>
> Gary
>
>
> In a message dated 1/30/2008 5:20:18 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
> nqrithfordatsun at msn.com writes:
>
> I havnt  bought anything or sold anything on it yet, but Craigs List looks
> like
> the  place to do business....its free.  There seems to be one for every 
> major
> city, even here in Tidewater Virginia.
>
> Best  Regards,
> Jim> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:13:46 -0800> From:  tputland at charter.net> 
> To:
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject:  [Roadsters] Since the list is 
> so
> quiet> > I thought I would pose a  question to those of you who use 
> ebay...> >
> Does any one have an  alternative to selling on ebay? > > I see they are
> lowering the fee  to list an item. But at the same time they are raising 
> the
> final value fee  to almost 10%. I hate to pay them the kind of money they 
> are
> almost  extorting out of the people who use that site. > > And Paypal is 
> just
> as nuts and is owned by ebay in case any of you didn't know that.>  > 
> Thanks
> for the vent!> > PEACE :-)> > Tim> Belleville,  WI.> '70 SPL AND SRL> 
> Still
> clueless but always  learning
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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Thu Jan 31 19:41:51 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:41:51 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Since the list is so quiet
In-Reply-To: <20080130171346.7SY1J.433286.root@fepweb13>
Message-ID: <000001c8647c$007fb1b0$6700a8c0@chrissy>

I was thinking the same thing.  Craigslist is too local, and the message
boards are very "local" in the cyber sense.  311's has a classified, but I
think Ebay has the challenge of the hunt for the buyers, and the possibility
of bidding wars and high sale price for the seller keeps people on Ebay. The
$400.00 rust-free roadster, the $42.00 ($600.00 retail) diamond plate truck
box for the $3000.00 6 year old pickup truck and the $9.99 4HP aircompressor
I got are all from Ebay, and wouldn't happen on Craigslist or a classified.

 I think you will see shipping and handling go through the roof as a way to
pay fees.  Paypal, for me, has been really good.  The fees for international
transactions are a bit crazy, but the few times I had a problem as a buyer
and a seller, they came through.  I've also heard horror stories.  Between
Ebay and Paypal fees, they are getting maybe 15%+. No big surprise, all good
things eventually get to be a profit game, except maybe Craigslist.

One possibility is if we, as a group, pick one local Craigslist, like
northern Maine, and post and look there.  I don' know if they have rules.

I was going to sell the EI Distributors and other ignition components on
Ebay, but the extra charges make that a bad idea.  Unless someone knows a
better way, I'm stuck with Paypal for international payments and it's not
too bad for domestic.  I may use my Wife's Mary Kay credit card service, but
then the buyer loses protection and so do I.

Dave Brisco
ECR

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim [mailto:tputland at charter.net]


I thought I would pose a question to those of you who use ebay...

Does any one have an alternative to selling on ebay?

I see they are lowering the fee to list an item. But at the same time they
are raising the final value fee to almost 10%. I hate to pay them the kind
of money they are almost extorting out of the people who use that site.

And Paypal is just as nuts and is owned by ebay in case any of you didn't
know that.

Thanks for the vent!

PEACE :-)

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From tputland at charter.net  Thu Jan 31 20:08:17 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:08:17 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] automatic Roadster ??
Message-ID: <20080131220817.DM45O.226911.root@fepweb16>

I am sure everyone has seen this but I still have to say WTF?

ebay item # 290201609699


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From jtorres67 at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 31 22:24:04 2008
From: jtorres67 at sbcglobal.net (jtorres67)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:24:04 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang Datsun Roadster Classic 2008 Web Site
Message-ID: <000601c86492$aabe2510$0349fea9@Torres>

Hey there Listers,

Below you will find the web site address for the 2008 Solvang Datsun Roadster
Classic to be held in Solvang CA on April 26th. The information contained
should answer most of your questions, as well as enable you to register for
the event. Thanks a lot and I look forward to getting your registrations in!
Remember, book your hotels early, they sell out lightning fast in Solvang on
the weekends, especially in April.

Thanks,

Jeff T.


WWW.SOLVANGSHOW.COM

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu Jan 31 23:35:07 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:35:07 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] automatic Roadster ??
In-Reply-To: <20080131220817.DM45O.226911.root@fepweb16>
Message-ID: <000d01c8649c$967f2590$6501a8c0@xp>

It's an L-series motor. Ad says 2000, but that's a 1600 valve cover -
probably interchangeable. And, yeah, that does appear to be an automatic
shifter.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:08 PM
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] automatic Roadster ??


I am sure everyone has seen this but I still have to say WTF?

ebay item # 290201609699


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning