From tom at datsun2000.com  Fri Feb  1 03:29:52 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 02:29:52 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Question about the Iron Bottom
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGEEDGDEAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

For the last several years list members have participated in the Iron Bottom
Run.  I have kept a detailed description of the event and links on the
EVENTS page of datsun2000.com.  This year I checked the links and there is
no mention of the Iron Bottom run.  It was scheduled to start on April 10th
this year.  Does anyone have current web information, or has Iron Bottom
been cancelled?

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

From chalsted at comcast.net  Fri Feb  1 04:57:05 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 06:57:05 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Since the list is so quiet
References: <000001c8647c$007fb1b0$6700a8c0@chrissy>
Message-ID: <003201c864c9$90d213f0$136fa343@craigscomputer>

........or the 23' Donzi with the twin Holman and Moody engines that just 
sold last night for under $1700....looked to be a clean boat- probably 
thirsty though ;-)

Craig 

From boakes at gmail.com  Fri Feb  1 05:27:32 2008
From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 06:27:32 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] automatic Roadster ??
In-Reply-To: <000d01c8649c$967f2590$6501a8c0@xp>
References: <20080131220817.DM45O.226911.root@fepweb16>
	<000d01c8649c$967f2590$6501a8c0@xp>
Message-ID: <3ad057d60802010427r5b89ebe2ke77e20a3573ecc2@mail.gmail.com>

And a single flat-top Hitachi, and a/c??

Wow, that thing was probably lucky to break 40mph on a good day.



On Feb 1, 2008 12:35 AM, Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
> It's an L-series motor. Ad says 2000, but that's a 1600 valve cover -
> probably interchangeable. And, yeah, that does appear to be an automatic
> shifter.
>
> Pete
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Tim
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:08 PM
> To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] automatic Roadster ??
>
>
> I am sure everyone has seen this but I still have to say WTF?
>
> ebay item # 290201609699
>
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
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From reblues at reblues.net  Fri Feb  1 07:19:36 2008
From: reblues at reblues.net (Richard Brown)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 09:19:36 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Question about the Iron Bottom
References: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGEEDGDEAA.tom@datsun2000.com>
Message-ID: <002401c864dd$79e6d4a0$6601a8c0@ACER4230>

Here is a link to 311s.org that has a little info.

http://www.311s.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7183

Richard


Subject: [Roadsters] Question about the Iron Bottom


> For the last several years list members have participated in the Iron 
> Bottom
> Run.  I have kept a detailed description of the event and links on the
> EVENTS page of datsun2000.com.  This year I checked the links and there is
> no mention of the Iron Bottom run.  It was scheduled to start on April 
> 10th
> this year.  Does anyone have current web information, or has Iron Bottom
> been cancelled?
>
> Tom
> 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
> Portland
> http://www.datsun2000.com
> http://www.nowroc.org

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Fri Feb  1 08:03:32 2008
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 09:03:32 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay/paypal my 2 c
References: <000001c8647c$007fb1b0$6700a8c0@chrissy>
Message-ID: <002301c864e3$9e77bc20$800101df@garage.local>

first of all, i'm not defending or decrying anyone here.  just my opinion.

just sold a transmission (not datsun) on ebay; did $1500 buy it now plus 
$125 shipping.

my fees were just under $100 for listing and seller fees plus paypal.

granted, that's a bunch of cash and i'd sure like to pay less.  on the other 
hand, ebay offers me a nationwide, actually worldwide audience.  the tranny 
shipped to virginia from dallas.

without ebay, i don't think i could have sold it nearly as easily.

so, despite the fees, i think i'm better off.  sure i'd like to pay less. 
but right now what's the alternative?

just my opinion, nfi, etc. 

From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net  Fri Feb  1 12:59:14 2008
From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 11:59:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster and other japanese classic cars
Message-ID: <365641.13359.qm@web81004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oGkxehdaNHmC4BinhXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTBzOTliOWtoBHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA3NrMQR2dGlkA0RGRDVfNzk-?p=isuzu+bellet&fr2=sc-sb&vs=youtube.com&ei=UTF-8

From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net  Fri Feb  1 13:06:41 2008
From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 12:06:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters and other Japanese classics
Message-ID: <509641.19598.qm@web81004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

This is what I meant for you fellas to see    www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACod9_Gtdfk

From pjmill at sonic.net  Fri Feb  1 14:23:57 2008
From: pjmill at sonic.net (pjmill at sonic.net)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 13:23:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay/paypal my 2 c
In-Reply-To: <002301c864e3$9e77bc20$800101df@garage.local>
References: <000001c8647c$007fb1b0$6700a8c0@chrissy>
	<002301c864e3$9e77bc20$800101df@garage.local>
Message-ID: <15378.151.151.73.169.1201901037.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net>

As an old-hand ebayer, I would just say that if you sell high priced items
on ebay advice your seller to pay in some way other than PayPal.  They get
paid on a percentage of the payment and it is WHOPPING!  When I sell cars.
etc up there I have the buyer pay by cash, cashier's check, direct wire or
account transfer -- saves $$$$$!

My $0.02.

Paul  :-)

> first of all, i'm not defending or decrying anyone here.  just my opinion.
>
> just sold a transmission (not datsun) on ebay; did $1500 buy it now plus
> $125 shipping.
>
> my fees were just under $100 for listing and seller fees plus paypal.
>
> granted, that's a bunch of cash and i'd sure like to pay less.  on the
> other
> hand, ebay offers me a nationwide, actually worldwide audience.  the
> tranny
> shipped to virginia from dallas.
>
> without ebay, i don't think i could have sold it nearly as easily.
>
> so, despite the fees, i think i'm better off.  sure i'd like to pay less.
> but right now what's the alternative?
>
> just my opinion, nfi, etc.
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Fri Feb  1 15:32:57 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 17:32:57 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay/paypal my 2 c
In-Reply-To: <15378.151.151.73.169.1201901037.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net>
References: <000001c8647c$007fb1b0$6700a8c0@chrissy>
	<002301c864e3$9e77bc20$800101df@garage.local>
	<15378.151.151.73.169.1201901037.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net>
Message-ID: <8CA3339871262BF-FF0-1F02@webmail-nf06.sim.aol.com>

Though the idea of Paypal is that you don't get stuck with a bounced 
check, or worse, a fake money order, cashier's check. Problem with 
Pypal is the recipient of thgoods can complain to Paypal about this or 
that and get the charges reversed and you will not always see your item 
ever again either.

Linda

-----Original Message-----
From: pjmill at sonic.net
To: Oliver <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 1:23 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay/paypal my 2 c

As an old-hand ebayer, I would just say that if you sell high priced 
items
on ebay advice your seller to pay in some way other than PayPal.  They 
get
paid on a percentage of the payment and it is WHOPPING!  When I sell 
cars.
etc up there I have the buyer pay by cash, cashier's check, direct wire 
or
account transfer -- saves $$$$$!

My $0.02.

Paul  :-)

> first of all, i'm not defending or decrying anyone here.  just my 
opinion.
>
> just sold a transmission (not datsun) on ebay; did $1500 buy it now 
plus
> $125 shipping.
>
> my fees were just under $100 for listing and seller fees plus paypal.
>
> granted, that's a bunch of cash and i'd sure like to pay less.  on the
> other
> hand, ebay offers me a nationwide, actually worldwide audience.  the
> tranny
> shipped to virginia from dallas.
>
> without ebay, i don't think i could have sold it nearly as easily.
>
> so, despite the fees, i think i'm better off.  sure i'd like to pay 
less.
> but right now what's the alternative?
>
> just my opinion, nfi, etc.
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From pjmill at sonic.net  Fri Feb  1 16:31:50 2008
From: pjmill at sonic.net (pjmill at sonic.net)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 15:31:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay/paypal my 2 c
In-Reply-To: <8CA3339871262BF-FF0-1F02@webmail-nf06.sim.aol.com>
References: <000001c8647c$007fb1b0$6700a8c0@chrissy>
	<002301c864e3$9e77bc20$800101df@garage.local>
	<15378.151.151.73.169.1201901037.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net>
	<8CA3339871262BF-FF0-1F02@webmail-nf06.sim.aol.com>
Message-ID: <9969.151.151.21.99.1201908710.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net>

Yep.  Absolutely, although there is no replacement for CAUTION in large
transactions anyway.

Sigh...  Would that that were the ONLY problem with PayPal.  Have you ever
actually tried to reach anyone there?!  You'd have better luck going to
their office!

>
> Though the idea of Paypal is that you don't get stuck with a bounced
> check, or worse, a fake money order, cashier's check. Problem with
> Pypal is the recipient of thgoods can complain to Paypal about this or
> that and get the charges reversed and you will not always see your item
> ever again either.
>
> Linda
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pjmill at sonic.net
> To: Oliver <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 1:23 pm
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay/paypal my 2 c
>
> As an old-hand ebayer, I would just say that if you sell high priced
> items
> on ebay advice your seller to pay in some way other than PayPal.  They
> get
> paid on a percentage of the payment and it is WHOPPING!  When I sell
> cars.
> etc up there I have the buyer pay by cash, cashier's check, direct wire
> or
> account transfer -- saves $$$$$!
>
> My $0.02.
>
> Paul  :-)
>
>> first of all, i'm not defending or decrying anyone here.  just my
> opinion.
>>
>> just sold a transmission (not datsun) on ebay; did $1500 buy it now
> plus
>> $125 shipping.
>>
>> my fees were just under $100 for listing and seller fees plus paypal.
>>
>> granted, that's a bunch of cash and i'd sure like to pay less.  on the
>> other
>> hand, ebay offers me a nationwide, actually worldwide audience.  the
>> tranny
>> shipped to virginia from dallas.
>>
>> without ebay, i don't think i could have sold it nearly as easily.
>>
>> so, despite the fees, i think i'm better off.  sure i'd like to pay
> less.
>> but right now what's the alternative?
>>
>> just my opinion, nfi, etc.
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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Fri Feb  1 21:07:14 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 23:07:14 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay/paypal my 2 c
In-Reply-To: <002301c864e3$9e77bc20$800101df@garage.local>
Message-ID: <006001c86551$181cdc00$6700a8c0@chrissy>

That's what it's all about, opinions.  The price you got makes it worth the
fees.  Not always the case, but when it works, it works

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Oliver [mailto:sumton at sbcglobal.net]

first of all, i'm not defending or decrying anyone here.  just my opinion.

just sold a transmission (not datsun) on ebay; did $1500 buy it now plus
$125 shipping.

my fees were just under $100 for listing and seller fees plus paypal.

granted, that's a bunch of cash and i'd sure like to pay less.  on the other

hand, ebay offers me a nationwide, actually worldwide audience.  the tranny
shipped to virginia from dallas.

without ebay, i don't think i could have sold it nearly as easily.

so, despite the fees, i think i'm better off.  sure i'd like to pay less.
but right now what's the alternative?

just my opinion, nfi, etc.

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Feb  1 22:27:44 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 21:27:44 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Leather and heat for your Miata seat
Message-ID: <000401c8655c$572fdbd0$6501a8c0@xp>

Upgrade those Miata seats!

<http://www.gomiata.com/katpremitlea.html>

From johnwightman at shaw.ca  Sat Feb  2 09:34:02 2008
From: johnwightman at shaw.ca (john wightman)
Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 08:34:02 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] automatic Roadster ??
In-Reply-To: <3ad057d60802010427r5b89ebe2ke77e20a3573ecc2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080131220817.DM45O.226911.root@fepweb16>
	<000d01c8649c$967f2590$6501a8c0@xp>
	<3ad057d60802010427r5b89ebe2ke77e20a3573ecc2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C308B952-2370-438D-A3BA-135A01657707@shaw.ca>

The look of the body is interesting, but my guess is that it's bondo,  
not steel. Interesting windshield, too...


http://moncton.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-under-5K-1968-datsun-roadster-convertible-1600-fairlady-W0QQAdIdZ35567803

From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com  Sat Feb  2 14:03:06 2008
From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo)
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 16:03:06 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Since the list is quiet - Roadster sighting - Dirty
	Harry
Message-ID: <000001c865df$03261940$0302a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>

Perhaps this is not news but I was watching Dirty Harry (Clint Eastwood) for
the 20 something time last night and noticed a Datsun roadster drive by.  It
happens late in the movie when Harry is going to the SF city municipal
building. The shot starts with a look at the flags in front of the building
and the camera pans around and down 180 degrees, you can pick up the
roadster coming down the road - silver (gray poly?) with a black top (and
the top is up!!! ???), then the camera finds Clint (Harry) as he walks ups
the steps and the roadster passes behind him.



There's a 240Z parked in the background in a scene in the beginning and I
think I caught glimpse of a 411 wagon scooting around a corner.



Winter in NY doesn't leave many options.



Joe

From fergus06 at socal.rr.com  Sat Feb  2 15:38:21 2008
From: fergus06 at socal.rr.com (Fergus OFarrell)
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 14:38:21 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Reminder: when you: "pass it forward",
	"package it proper"
Message-ID: <003e01c865ec$50fd1670$96b44a42@fergus031a2176>

Peter Harrison wrote: " thanks for 'pass it forward' on the hardtop.

Lesson learned on this count.  When you "pass it forward", don't forget to
"package it proper".

I offered late model key blanks, free, (cuz I bought a batch of 18 off e-bay,
but only needed 2) got a flurry of responses and contact addresses, and took a
week or two, but sent them out scotch-taped to pieces of recycled paper from
work (with weird part sketches on them), inside of normal business envelopes.

Well, based on the number of responses (none), except for Gary Cohen asking,
"Uhh, why did you mail me this strange picture?", obviously the keys got eaten
(torn out of the envelopes) by postal processing equipment.  So, when ya "pass
it forward", don't forget to "package it proper".

With the best of intentions, but just a tad short on the execution,
Paddy O'PostalChallenged, 69 2000, HB, CA

From RWM at RWMann.com  Sat Feb  2 16:59:35 2008
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM (Out of the Office))
Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 18:59:35 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Reminder: when you: "pass it forward",
 "package  it proper"
In-Reply-To: <003e01c865ec$50fd1670$96b44a42@fergus031a2176>
References: <003e01c865ec$50fd1670$96b44a42@fergus031a2176>
Message-ID: <47A503E7.8010500@RWMann.com>

I've seen this happen with flat pack lithium and PDA batteries, too. 

Surprising some post office hasn't burned to the ground.

- Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex




Fergus OFarrell wrote:

>Peter Harrison wrote: " thanks for 'pass it forward' on the hardtop.
>
>Lesson learned on this count.  When you "pass it forward", don't forget to
>"package it proper".
>
>I offered late model key blanks, free, (cuz I bought a batch of 18 off e-bay,
>but only needed 2) got a flurry of responses and contact addresses, and took a
>week or two, but sent them out scotch-taped to pieces of recycled paper from
>work (with weird part sketches on them), inside of normal business envelopes.
>
>Well, based on the number of responses (none), except for Gary Cohen asking,
>"Uhh, why did you mail me this strange picture?", obviously the keys got eaten
>(torn out of the envelopes) by postal processing equipment.  So, when ya "pass
>it forward", don't forget to "package it proper".
>
>With the best of intentions, but just a tad short on the execution,
>Paddy O'PostalChallenged, 69 2000, HB, CA

From roadster68 at shaw.ca  Sat Feb  2 17:02:15 2008
From: roadster68 at shaw.ca (Larry Dziuba)
Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 17:02:15 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Reminder: when you: "pass it forward",
 "package  it proper"
References: <003e01c865ec$50fd1670$96b44a42@fergus031a2176>
Message-ID: <002b01c865f8$09476db0$6401a8c0@useravjfzd6udp>

I must have missed out on the free key blanks.  I was looking last year and 
went thru a dozen attempts to explain and attach photos of same.  Can't 
believe it is that hard to match up a key.  Still looking.  Larry.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fergus OFarrell" <fergus06 at socal.rr.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 3:38 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Reminder: when you: "pass it forward", "package it 
proper"


> Peter Harrison wrote: " thanks for 'pass it forward' on the hardtop.
>
> Lesson learned on this count.  When you "pass it forward", don't forget to
> "package it proper".
>
> I offered late model key blanks, free, (cuz I bought a batch of 18 off 
> e-bay,

From snakeranch2 at yahoo.com  Sat Feb  2 19:23:00 2008
From: snakeranch2 at yahoo.com (Eric Johnson)
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 18:23:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Dirty Harry, also on "the Jerk" too
In-Reply-To: <000001c865df$03261940$0302a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>
Message-ID: <429362.1381.qm@web52401.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

When steve martin gets the job pumping gas at mr
hartunian's gas station right around the when the guy
is shooting at him you will see a brown high top
roadster several times across the street.



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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Sat Feb  2 19:48:03 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 18:48:03 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns in movies
In-Reply-To: <000001c865df$03261940$0302a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>
References: <000001c865df$03261940$0302a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>
Message-ID: <BAY106-W1750AFEDFA1187ABA1A0E6DF320@phx.gbl>

Wasn't there a tv series with a roadster driven by the main character

also link to wite with listing of datsuns in movies etc

http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&sortBy=4&make=Datsun&
PHPSESSID=db47d8d84cf4c39b283eb1d810bab8e7

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Sun Feb  3 05:04:53 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 07:04:53 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns in movies
In-Reply-To: <BAY106-W1750AFEDFA1187ABA1A0E6DF320@phx.gbl>
References: <000001c865df$03261940$0302a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>
	<BAY106-W1750AFEDFA1187ABA1A0E6DF320@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000901c8665c$fd893070$f89b9150$@net>

Rockford Files.  Angle drove a beat up roadster.

Paul
Ohio

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters- 

Wasn't there a tv series with a roadster driven by the main character

From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com  Sun Feb  3 07:12:36 2008
From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo)
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 09:12:36 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay/paypal my 2 c
In-Reply-To: <006001c86551$181cdc00$6700a8c0@chrissy>
Message-ID: <002101c8666e$d4e1c260$0302a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>

I'm with Dave, it hard for me to complain about what eBay offers us...the
national/international exposure, complete web-store infrastructure (pics,
discounts, shipping, etc), payment options, paypal services...don't you wish
you thought of it? (cha-ching!)

Then again - I don't make my living from selling stuff on eBay...for me it's
just a means to feed "a habit"


"That's what it's all about, opinions.  The price you got makes it worth the
fees.  Not always the case, but when it works, it works"

Dave

From ericerichoffman at yahoo.com  Sun Feb  3 07:28:02 2008
From: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com (Eric Hoffman)
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 06:28:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] konig rewinds
Message-ID: <259736.61999.qm@web36913.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Konig Rewinds are attrative and dirt cheap.  I paid $400 for a set including shipping for a non roadster project.  Unfortunately they only come in 7 inch width for Datsun specs (right?)
   
  In 06 Chris Brucciani and I were at the Mitty talking to the gentleman who races a well known white with blue stripe roadster.  Is this person on the list and or can anyone tell me who this is?   He had the Rewinds and said it is fairly easy to roll out the fenders (so that the Rewinds will work).  Has anyone else done this and if so please feel free to comment on the results...
   
  Regards,
   
  Eric Hoffman
   
   

       
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From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Sun Feb  3 07:31:38 2008
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 08:31:38 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] dash repair - kind of ot
References: <20080120.171319.1036.0.hallosb@juno.com>
	<007b01c85bd1$4b2b98e0$6601a8c0@ACER4230>
Message-ID: <000e01c86671$7fa73020$800101df@garage.local>

hi, all.

my dash is in good condition, but my ultra cheapskate brother in law wants 
to fix the dashboard on his 20 year old pickup.

istr instructions somewhere on how to do this yourself???????

thanks. 

From ericerichoffman at yahoo.com  Sun Feb  3 07:37:12 2008
From: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com (Eric Hoffman)
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 06:37:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] rota  bb's
Message-ID: <242495.1401.qm@web36902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

has anyone used these on a roadster and if so can you share what vendor sold them to you?  These look more like Panasports then the Konigs.
   
   
  Eric

       
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From ericerichoffman at yahoo.com  Sun Feb  3 07:41:05 2008
From: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com (Eric Hoffman)
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 06:41:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] cheap dash repair
Message-ID: <477705.8057.qm@web36901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I've seen pictures of spray on truck bedliner material used on a 70's alfa romeo dash!  I think the speedo bezels on that car are a black crinkle finish so perhaps the bedliner material brings it all togther in one non correct, dash crack covering adventure. 

       
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sun Feb  3 09:01:40 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 08:01:40 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] rota  bb's
In-Reply-To: <242495.1401.qm@web36902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c8667e$10e0f5b0$6501a8c0@xp>

Discussion of Rota wheels on 311s.org:

<http://www.311s.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5523>

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Eric Hoffman
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 6:37 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] rota bb's


has anyone used these on a roadster and if so can you share what vendor sold
them to you?  These look more like Panasports then the Konigs.


  Eric

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sun Feb  3 09:07:02 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 08:07:02 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] dash repair - kind of ot
In-Reply-To: <000e01c86671$7fa73020$800101df@garage.local>
Message-ID: <001001c8667e$d0c25bd0$6501a8c0@xp>

Too broad a question. Depends on what you mean by "fix the dashboard" not to
mention vehicle year, make and model.

Here's a write-up on redoing the early flat dash:
<http://www.311s.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2470>

Some pics and comments on a late model roadster dash:
<http://www.shiftco.com/features/the_rat/rat_029.html>

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Oliver
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 6:32 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] dash repair - kind of ot


hi, all.

my dash is in good condition, but my ultra cheapskate brother in law wants 
to fix the dashboard on his 20 year old pickup.

istr instructions somewhere on how to do this yourself???????

thanks.

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Sun Feb  3 09:38:25 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:38:25 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters and other Japanese classics
In-Reply-To: <509641.19598.qm@web81004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <008801c86683$344e6140$6700a8c0@chrissy>

Dammit!, I had to go and see the 2000GT again, like Datsuns haven't gotten
me in enough trouble!!
Nice clip.

Dave Brisco
ECR

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom PRATHER [mailto:tomet9 at sbcglobal.net] 

This is what I meant for you fellas to see
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACod9_Gtdfk

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Sun Feb  3 10:39:01 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:39:01 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay/paypal my 2 c
In-Reply-To: <9969.151.151.21.99.1201908710.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net>
Message-ID: <008901c8668b$ad106800$6700a8c0@chrissy>

That's funny, the few times I had to deal with Paypal, I had them on the
phone in maybe 10 minutes, probably had to call them on stuff a dozen times.
As long as you are a premier member and ship to a verified address etc.,
they are pretty much on you side.  Except for the fees, which can be a
killer on international sales, they have been very good.  On car sales, I
take the deposit on Paypal, but cash for the balance unless they want to pay
the transaction fee.

Best Paypal experience, I had purchaced a MIG welder, heavy expensive item.
It was packed in a  Pampers cardboard box with 1 layer of thin bubble wrap
and was totally trashed in shipping,enough to bend the steel frame. UPS
refused a damage claim because of bad packaging, so I went to Paypal. Back
and forth with Paypal, for me to get a refund, I had to get it checked and
get an estimate for repairs and finally ship it back to him. Paypal actually
gave me an $85.00 credit to cover the diagnosis and return shipping, didn't
charge me or him, it was their money. I shipped it back, full refund and
kept the extra $30.00 because the welding place gave me a free estimate.  It
did cost me a few hours of my time, but had I payed any other way, I would
have been shafted.

Now, of course, when I get my first horror story and I get the shaft, my
opinion will change, but for now, they have been great.

Dave Brisco
ECR

-----Original Message-----
From: pjmill at sonic.net [mailto:pjmill at sonic.net]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 6:32 PM
To: ljordan704 at netscape.net
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay/paypal my 2 c


Yep.  Absolutely, although there is no replacement for CAUTION in large
transactions anyway.

Sigh...  Would that that were the ONLY problem with PayPal.  Have you ever
actually tried to reach anyone there?!  You'd have better luck going to
their office!

>
> Though the idea of Paypal is that you don't get stuck with a bounced
> check, or worse, a fake money order, cashier's check. Problem with
> Pypal is the recipient of thgoods can complain to Paypal about this or
> that and get the charges reversed and you will not always see your
> item ever again either.
>
> Linda
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pjmill at sonic.net
> To: Oliver <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net
> <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 1:23 pm
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay/paypal my 2 c
>
> As an old-hand ebayer, I would just say that if you sell high priced
> items on ebay advice your seller to pay in some way other than PayPal.
> They get
> paid on a percentage of the payment and it is WHOPPING!  When I sell
> cars.
> etc up there I have the buyer pay by cash, cashier's check, direct wire
> or
> account transfer -- saves $$$$$!
>
> My $0.02.

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Sun Feb  3 09:39:20 2008
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 10:39:20 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters and other Japanese classics
References: <008801c86683$344e6140$6700a8c0@chrissy>
Message-ID: <002301c86690$aa951580$800101df@garage.local>

really nicely done film.  thank you.

> 
> This is what I meant for you fellas to see
> www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACod9_Gtdfk
> ________________________________________

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Sun Feb  3 16:53:25 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:53:25 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Death Rattle. From Scary to WEIRD!
In-Reply-To: <PLEKIPKLOPKJCCDNMINGOEKPCHAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <E1JLoeL-0005Hy-2Y@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Thank you yet again Gordon,

On "tap" number 11 the engine began to spin. Bolt came off by hand after
that. Harmonic Balancer puller did the rest. As far as putting it back on, I
tapped lightly to get it into a position where the threads would catch. Then
I just used the bolt to get it worked into place. I loosened the bolt again
and a few more taps with the hammer on the back of the socket, just to make
sure it was seated.

Oh, 1-1/16 ", 6 point, deep socket worked well. 12 point wouldn't have
worked so well. I believe the "correct" size would have been either 1-1/32
", or 26mm. 1-1/16 " was a little loose. 

 

This works. Scary as hell to do, but it works. 

All is well with my Lil' Darlin' once again!

Matt

 

Gordon Wrote:

"I still cringe to think about this, but it works. First, disconnect the
points so the motor won't start. Put the breaker bar on the bolt in such a
way that the breaker-bar is over towards the driver's side of the engine
compartment, near the inner fender channel. Then fold up several layers of
cardboard and put them between the breaker bar and the channel. You can see
what's coming, can't you?

 

Now tap the starter. Don't crank it, just give it a tap. There will be a
loud "WHANG!" as the wrench hits the channel, and the engine will jump.
Check to see if the bolt is loose. If not, reset and do it again. Make sure
the socket hasn't jumped partly off the bolt head - you don't want the
wrench to suddenly get launched in a random direction. Usually a couple of
shots is enough to break the bolt loose."

From tputland at charter.net  Mon Feb  4 05:58:29 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 4:58:29 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Automatic Roadster-revisited
Message-ID: <20080204075829.P65P1.1040995.root@fepweb12>

Let me start off by saying that I did not mean to offend any one when I pointed this car out. If I did, it was totally unintentional. My apologies. 

I had never seen an automatic in a Roadster before and was kinda blown away. I had never even considered it a possibility before.

Thanks to those of you out there who sent me rather nasty emails regarding this car, subject, etc.                 Guess I struck a nerve somehow in my wonderment. 

Maybe I will just stick to lurking as it seems to be safer. 

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Mon Feb  4 15:47:46 2008
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:47:46 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Humour - Estate Planning
Message-ID: <001b01c8677f$f6ed6640$372ecf18@Daryl>

Message




Dan was a single guy living at home with his father and working in the
family business.

When he found out he was going to inherit a fortune when his sickly   father
died, he decided he needed a wife with which to share his fortune.

One evening at an investment meeting he spotted the most beautiful   woman he
had ever seen.

Her natural beauty took his breath away. 'I may look like just an ordinary
man,' he said to her, 'but in just a few years, my father will die, and then
I'll inherit 20 million dollars.'

Impressed, the woman obtained his business card and three days later,   she
became his stepmother.



 Women are so much better at estate planning than men!


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From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Mon Feb  4 16:46:32 2008
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (Mike H.)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 17:46:32 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Wahoo! Yippee! They Fit!
Message-ID: <00e001c86788$2bf0e580$6500a8c0@lap>

The subject line says it all!
The new Panasports and tires are mounted, and no more rubbing on the passenger
rear fender!  +15mm offset is a marvelous thing! By the way, do Panasports
make you go faster? Or do they just make your right foot heavier? I could
swear I feel zippier!
Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Mon Feb  4 16:52:59 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:52:59 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Wahoo! Yippee! They Fit!
Message-ID: <020420082352.1710.47A7A55B00096F59000006AE2207000953CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

D. All of the above.

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Mike H." <twobeaners at earthlink.net>
> The subject line says it all!
> The new Panasports and tires are mounted, and no more rubbing on the passenger
> rear fender!  +15mm offset is a marvelous thing! By the way, do Panasports
> make you go faster? Or do they just make your right foot heavier? I could
> swear I feel zippier!
> Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed
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From mikef at carolina.rr.com  Mon Feb  4 17:27:58 2008
From: mikef at carolina.rr.com (Mike Faggart)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:27:58 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns in movies
References: <000001c865df$03261940$0302a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>
	<BAY106-W1750AFEDFA1187ABA1A0E6DF320@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <00ba01c8678d$f6288740$0200a8c0@reginacb41e884>

Maxwell Smart's first car
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "peter harrison" <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 9:48 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns in movies


> Wasn't there a tv series with a roadster driven by the main character
>
> also link to wite with listing of datsuns in movies etc
>
> http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&sortBy=4&make=Datsun&
> PHPSESSID=db47d8d84cf4c39b283eb1d810bab8e7
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From fairlady at bigpond.com  Mon Feb  4 17:54:57 2008
From: fairlady at bigpond.com (Phill Brook)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:54:57 +1100
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns in movies
In-Reply-To: <00ba01c8678d$f6288740$0200a8c0@reginacb41e884>
References: <000001c865df$03261940$0302a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>
	<BAY106-W1750AFEDFA1187ABA1A0E6DF320@phx.gbl>
	<00ba01c8678d$f6288740$0200a8c0@reginacb41e884>
Message-ID: <1564E01B-4D96-46AE-85F4-1205C34BC895@bigpond.com>

No. Max drove a red Sunbeam Tiger (then a Karmen Ghia and then an  
Opel GT)

Lancelot Link drove a 1500 roadster.

On 05/02/2008, at 11:27 AM, Mike Faggart wrote:

> Maxwell Smart's first car
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "peter harrison" <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>
> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 9:48 PM
> Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns in movies
>
>
>> Wasn't there a tv series with a roadster driven by the main character

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Mon Feb  4 18:24:19 2008
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 17:24:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns in movies
In-Reply-To: <1564E01B-4D96-46AE-85F4-1205C34BC895@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <772709.22544.qm@web82801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

no.  max drove a sunbeam alpine, not a tiger.
   
  the saint drove a volvo 1800 

Phill Brook <fairlady at bigpond.com> wrote:
  No. Max drove a red Sunbeam Tiger (then a Karmen Ghia and then an 
Opel GT)

Lancelot Link drove a 1500 roadster.

On 05/02/2008, at 11:27 AM, Mike Faggart wrote:

> Maxwell Smart's first car
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "peter harrison" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 9:48 PM
> Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns in movies
>
>
>> Wasn't there a tv series with a roadster driven by the main character

From gregs672liter at netzero.net  Mon Feb  4 18:25:02 2008
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 01:25:02 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns in movies
Message-ID: <20080204.172502.8327.0@webmail07.vgs.untd.com>

That's Lancelot Link, Secret Chimp... if you like, I can sing the theme song
for you (God, why do I keep this kinda crap in my head!)
Greg Burrows

-- Phill Brook <fairlady at bigpond.com> wrote:
No. Max drove a red Sunbeam Tiger (then a Karmen Ghia and then an
Opel GT)

Lancelot Link drove a 1500 roadster.



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From fairlady at bigpond.com  Mon Feb  4 18:30:04 2008
From: fairlady at bigpond.com (Phill Brook)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 12:30:04 +1100
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns in movies
In-Reply-To: <772709.22544.qm@web82801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <772709.22544.qm@web82801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BB423EF5-926F-4D8C-A444-1B6CAE6FB491@bigpond.com>

I'll stand corrected. It was meant to be a Tiger but they couldn't  
fit the machine guns in the engine bay. IIRC the car had Tiger badges.

On 05/02/2008, at 12:24 PM, oliver wrote:

> no.  max drove a sunbeam alpine, not a tiger.

From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Mon Feb  4 18:37:02 2008
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:37:02 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster sighting - Dirty Harry
In-Reply-To: <000001c865df$03261940$0302a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>
References: <000001c865df$03261940$0302a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>
Message-ID: <47A7BDBE.7090407@sbcglobal.net>

While we're on the subject, I was flipping channels the other night and 
flipped across "Bullitt" on MOJOHD and decided to watch it. I have a 
vague memory of having spotted a Roadster parked on the street in one 
brief scene from watching it years ago, but I didn't spot it this time. 
The movie had been playing for maybe half an hour when I turned it on, 
and I started drifting off to sleep after the big chase scene, so I 
might have missed it.

I guess I'll have to throw in my DVD of the movie some evening and check 
it out again.

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

Joe Russo wrote:

>Perhaps this is not news but I was watching Dirty Harry (Clint Eastwood) for
>the 20 something time last night and noticed a Datsun roadster drive by.  It
>happens late in the movie when Harry is going to the SF city municipal
>building. The shot starts with a look at the flags in front of the building
>and the camera pans around and down 180 degrees, you can pick up the
>roadster coming down the road - silver (gray poly?) with a black top (and
>the top is up!!! ???), then the camera finds Clint (Harry) as he walks ups
>the steps and the roadster passes behind him.
>
>
>
>There's a 240Z parked in the background in a scene in the beginning and I
>think I caught glimpse of a 411 wagon scooting around a corner.
>
>
>
>Winter in NY doesn't leave many options.
>
>
>
>Joe

From nqrithfordatsun at msn.com  Mon Feb  4 19:32:20 2008
From: nqrithfordatsun at msn.com (Jim InVirginia)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:32:20 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns in movies
In-Reply-To: <772709.22544.qm@web82801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1564E01B-4D96-46AE-85F4-1205C34BC895@bigpond.com>
	<772709.22544.qm@web82801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY109-W31B2B911BFC7302ED4CAA4BF2C0@phx.gbl>

I clearly remember Max pulling up in the Sunbeam, and it said Tiger on the
side!

As far as the Saint goes, yep, he drove a Volvo P-1800...I wonder if he had
the overdrive, and if it worked.....I had two of those for a while (you may
remember them from the "ran while parked" pages of Classic Motorsports a year
or two ago)....but I sold them off to an energetic younger person, as they
started looking like "a bridge too far" for me.

Best Regards to all on a very warm Feb night here in Chesapeake Virginia
Jim

> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 17:24:19 -0800> From: sumton at sbcglobal.net> To:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsuns in movies> >
no. max drove a sunbeam alpine, not a tiger.> > the saint drove a volvo 1800 >
> Phill Brook <fairlady at bigpond.com> wrote:> No. Max drove a red Sunbeam Tiger
(then a Karmen Ghia and then an > Opel GT)> > Lancelot Link drove a 1500
roadster.> > On 05/02/2008, at 11:27 AM, Mike Faggart wrote:> > > Maxwell
Smart's first car> > ----- Original Message -----> > From: "peter harrison" >
> To: > > Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 9:48 PM> > Subject: [Roadsters]
Datsuns in movies> >> >> >> Wasn't there a tv series with a roadster driven by
the main character

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Mon Feb  4 22:05:04 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:05:04 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Lancelot Link (was "RE:  Datsuns in movies")
In-Reply-To: <20080204.172502.8327.0@webmail07.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <002a01c867b4$abcb49e0$6501a8c0@xp>

Plot, cast, themes (including a Spanish version) and more!

<http://www.70slivekidvid.com/lancelot.htm>

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of gregs672liter at netzero.net
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 5:25 PM
To: fairlady at bigpond.com
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsuns in movies


That's Lancelot Link, Secret Chimp... if you like, I can sing the theme song
for you (God, why do I keep this kinda crap in my head!) Greg Burrows

-- Phill Brook <fairlady at bigpond.com> wrote:
No. Max drove a red Sunbeam Tiger (then a Karmen Ghia and then an Opel GT)

Lancelot Link drove a 1500 roadster.

From toolmansj2 at comcast.net  Mon Feb  4 22:58:00 2008
From: toolmansj2 at comcast.net (toolmansj2 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 05:58:00 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Is this wire config correct (pic)
Message-ID: <020520080558.17993.47A7FAE7000E95F0000046492216554886B6AC020E03040101AB@comcast.net>

I am trying to finish my connectors for my new starter harnesss. I just want to make sure I have it right!

Thanks all
Shaun Jones

1969 2000 U20 
2007 Titan 4x4

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of starter wires 3 wire harness early 69 2000.JPG]

From slowboy at cox.net  Tue Feb  5 00:32:34 2008
From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 00:32:34 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] SPL 310 Red Cover Service Manual
Message-ID: <000a01c867c9$469c1260$8b01a8c0@m7170n>

In the green cover SP (L) 311 service manual there are foldouts for the
transmission and brakes.

Are there foldouts in the red cover SP (L) 310 service manual? If so, for
what?

Thank you!

Jim

From graemes at internode.on.net  Tue Feb  5 01:27:18 2008
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 18:57:18 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns in movies
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-W31B2B911BFC7302ED4CAA4BF2C0@phx.gbl>
References: <1564E01B-4D96-46AE-85F4-1205C34BC895@bigpond.com><772709.22544.qm@web82801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<BAY109-W31B2B911BFC7302ED4CAA4BF2C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000b01c867d0$ec3194f0$426fa8c0@desktop>

Don't know why, but I was watching "Bruce Almighty" the other night.
In one scene he climbs into a very scrunched silver Datsun Z car which
magically transforms into a supercar of some sort.
I would have kept the Z! 

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From conner_a at comcast.net  Tue Feb  5 05:30:53 2008
From: conner_a at comcast.net (Andrew Conner)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 07:30:53 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns in movies
In-Reply-To: <000b01c867d0$ec3194f0$426fa8c0@desktop>
Message-ID: <GAECJDADOAHAKPLGADNHCEGNCKAA.conner_a@comcast.net>

Pretty sure that was a 260z in Bruce Almighty because it was a 2+2.

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Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsuns in movies


Don't know why, but I was watching "Bruce Almighty" the other night.
In one scene he climbs into a very scrunched silver Datsun Z car which
magically transforms into a supercar of some sort.
I would have kept the Z!

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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Tue Feb  5 07:31:35 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:31:35 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns in movies
Message-ID: <d1b.1bb52dd6.34d9cd47@aol.com>

In a message dated 2/4/2008 4:55:15 PM Pacific Standard Time,  
fairlady at bigpond.com writes:


Lancelot Link drove a 1500  roadster.





I used to have a picture of Lance in his car as my computer wall paper. I  
think it was a high windshield car, red. 
 
keith



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From ericerichoffman at yahoo.com  Tue Feb  5 09:45:40 2008
From: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com (Eric Hoffman)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:45:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] maxwell smart drove both a tiger and an opel gt
Message-ID: <881699.15758.qm@web36915.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

tiger every year except the last season whne he switched to the the opel
       
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From datrock at centurytel.net  Tue Feb  5 10:59:58 2008
From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole)
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:59:58 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] maxwell smart drove both a tiger and an opel gt
In-Reply-To: <881699.15758.qm@web36915.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <881699.15758.qm@web36915.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <47A8A41E.9040701@centurytel.net>

You guys have me wondering... did "Agent 99" have a car???  I sure enjoy 
the old memeries this topic brings back..Thanks. Bill

From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com  Tue Feb  5 11:54:27 2008
From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:54:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] maxwell smart drove both a tiger and an opel gt
In-Reply-To: <881699.15758.qm@web36915.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <464836.34695.qm@web52802.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

No, there definitely was a Karman Giaha (have no idea
how to spell VW) in there somewhere, maybe just
briefly....

Mike SC
--- Eric Hoffman <ericerichoffman at yahoo.com> wrote:

> tiger every year except the last season whne he
> switched to the the opel
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From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com  Tue Feb  5 11:56:03 2008
From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:56:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] maxwell smart drove both a tiger and an opel gt
In-Reply-To: <47A8A41E.9040701@centurytel.net>
Message-ID: <710357.83028.qm@web52810.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

"99" didn't need a car, she can ALWAYS get a ride...

Mike SC
--- Bill Cole <datrock at centurytel.net> wrote:

> You guys have me wondering... did "Agent 99" have a
> car???  I sure enjoy 
> the old memeries this topic brings back..Thanks.
> Bill
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From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com  Tue Feb  5 11:57:14 2008
From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:57:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns in movies
In-Reply-To: <d1b.1bb52dd6.34d9cd47@aol.com>
Message-ID: <930588.37150.qm@web52802.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I hope some web surfer can come up with that
picture...

Mike SC
--- Keith0alan at aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 2/4/2008 4:55:15 PM Pacific
> Standard Time,  
> fairlady at bigpond.com writes:
> 
> 
> Lancelot Link drove a 1500  roadster.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I used to have a picture of Lance in his car as my
> computer wall paper. I  
> think it was a high windshield car, red. 
>  
> keith
> 
> 
> 
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From bradlustig at earthlink.net  Tue Feb  5 12:06:59 2008
From: bradlustig at earthlink.net (Brad Lustig)
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:06:59 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns in movies
In-Reply-To: <930588.37150.qm@web52802.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <930588.37150.qm@web52802.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <47A8B3D3.8030507@earthlink.net>

http://www.moviecars.it/images/auto/vw_karman_getsmart.jpg
Brad

Mike Harper wrote:
> I hope some web surfer can come up with that
> picture...
>
> Mike SC

From boakes at gmail.com  Tue Feb  5 12:21:36 2008
From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 13:21:36 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns in movies
In-Reply-To: <47A8B3D3.8030507@earthlink.net>
References: <930588.37150.qm@web52802.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<47A8B3D3.8030507@earthlink.net>
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http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/060616/133231__Lancelot_Link_l.jpg

I think.


>
> Mike Harper wrote:
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> > picture...
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From info at sportsimports.ca  Tue Feb  5 12:25:39 2008
From: info at sportsimports.ca (Ross Mullen / Sports Imports)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:25:39 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] get smart drove an Alpine also....
Message-ID: <B04379E1-B18F-4527-983F-CF8F2BCAF3AB@sportsimports.ca>

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058805/trivia


The red convertible driven by Don Adams in the opening credits for  
the first two seasons is a 1965 Sunbeam Tiger Mark I, which came  
standard with a Ford 260 V8 engine. The car was used in several  
episodes throughout the first four seasons, though sometimes  
substituted by a very similar-looking Sunbeam Alpine with Tiger badging

isn't  the internet great???

Ross
sports imports

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Feb  5 12:40:54 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:40:54 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns in movies
Message-ID: <020520081940.2616.47A8BBC60000FE4300000A382209224627CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Ah-ha! That's what someone on 311s.org is using for their avatar. Looks like a high windshield to me.

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Bill Oakes" <boakes at gmail.com>
> http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/060616/133231__Lancelot_Link_l.jpg
> 
> I think.
> 
> 
> >
> > Mike Harper wrote:
> > > I hope some web surfer can come up with that
> > > picture...
> > >
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From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Tue Feb  5 13:19:45 2008
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 14:19:45 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: F1 Ferraris (old and new) in Sheel commercial
Message-ID: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D56BFCA@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>

A co-wroker sent me this link to a European Shell commercial full f old
and new Ferraris.

Took quite a while to load here at work, beware with any dial-up
connection.

http://a1841.v321975.c32197.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1841/32197/1/metrob.
download.akamai.com/32197/April_07/Circuit_High.wmv

From jeffvh at aol.com  Tue Feb  5 14:20:56 2008
From: jeffvh at aol.com (jeffvh at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:20:56 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns in movies
In-Reply-To: <930588.37150.qm@web52802.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CA3654216D525A-7C8-1411@Webmail-mg05.sim.aol.com>

http://forademoda.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/133231__lancelot_link_l.jpg

Lancelot Link, I'd never heard of the show, but here's evidence of the "guys" in front of the red roadster. Looks like a high windshield car..also big flares on the front fenders.. not a 1500.

Jeff Von Holten
Columbus OH (close to 70 degrees today, but raining)


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Harper <roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com>
To: Keith0alan at aol.com; fairlady at bigpond.com; mikef at carolina.rr.com
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 1:57 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsuns in movies



I hope some web surfer can come up with that
picture...

Mike SC
--- Keith0alan at aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 2/4/2008 4:55:15 PM Pacific
> Standard Time,  
> fairlady at bigpond.com writes:
> 
> 
> Lancelot Link drove a 1500  roadster.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I used to have a picture of Lance in his car as my
> computer wall paper. I  
> think it was a high windshield car, red. 
>  
> keith
> 
> 
> 
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From spl310 at hotmail.com  Tue Feb  5 17:13:22 2008
From: spl310 at hotmail.com (sidney raper)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 19:13:22 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Lancelot Link drove a high windshield car...
Message-ID: <BAY105-W42702DF5EB2155609F90EF922D0@phx.gbl>

http://forademoda.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/133231__lancelot_link_l.jpg

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From mikef at carolina.rr.com  Tue Feb  5 17:46:39 2008
From: mikef at carolina.rr.com (Mike Faggart)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 19:46:39 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Lancelot Link (was "RE:  Datsuns in movies")
References: <002a01c867b4$abcb49e0$6501a8c0@xp>
Message-ID: <003601c86859$bc9e5410$0200a8c0@reginacb41e884>

Maxwell Smart, Lancelot Link, it was still a long time ago!
mike faggart

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:05 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Lancelot Link (was "RE: Datsuns in movies")


> Plot, cast, themes (including a Spanish version) and more!
>
> <http://www.70slivekidvid.com/lancelot.htm>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of gregs672liter at netzero.net
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 5:25 PM
> To: fairlady at bigpond.com
> Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsuns in movies
>
>
> That's Lancelot Link, Secret Chimp... if you like, I can sing the theme 
> song
> for you (God, why do I keep this kinda crap in my head!) Greg Burrows
>
> -- Phill Brook <fairlady at bigpond.com> wrote:
> No. Max drove a red Sunbeam Tiger (then a Karmen Ghia and then an Opel GT)
>
> Lancelot Link drove a 1500 roadster.
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From mhknorr at msn.com  Tue Feb  5 19:04:48 2008
From: mhknorr at msn.com (Michael Knorr)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 19:04:48 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns in movies
Message-ID: <BAY106-W12C4260329F2AA7A5503A1AA2D0@phx.gbl>

And after the show stopped being funny (when 99 started having babies), Smart
drove a convertible Beetle.

Regards, Michael Knorr
1966 SPL311-03639

"God willing, we will prevail, in peace and freedom from fear, and in true
health, through the purity and essence of our natural bodily fluids." --
General Jack D. Ripper, Commanding Officer, 843rd Bomb Wing, Burpelson Air
Force Base, SAC

From jhatt at inreach.com  Tue Feb  5 19:56:28 2008
From: jhatt at inreach.com (paul hatter)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 18:56:28 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Sunbeams&Smart
Message-ID: <000601c8686b$e0dd0670$f28f9643@paul5345n942ga>

I believe that all of the Sunbeams driven By M
axwell Smart were rebadged Alpines. Probably series IVs or Vs. There is no
room in a Tiger to place gadgets. I own 2 Series Vs. Paul

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Tue Feb  5 21:15:50 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 23:15:50 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] maxwell smart drove both a tiger and an opel gt
In-Reply-To: <464836.34695.qm@web52802.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003b01c86876$f5968090$6700a8c0@chrissy>

I can confirm the Karmann Ghia, didn't remember the Opel Info here.
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Underground/9798/gslocation.htm 

On "The Avengers", John Steed had a couple of gnarley Bentleys, and Mrs.
Piel had a Lotus, and a leather suit, so move over 99.
http://theavengers.tv/forever/cars-2.htm

BTW, I think this is the first ever use of the phrase "gnarley Bentley"

Dave Brisco
ECR

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Harper [mailto:roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com] 


No, there definitely was a Karman Giaha (have no idea
how to spell VW) in there somewhere, maybe just
briefly....

Mike SC
--- Eric Hoffman <ericerichoffman at yahoo.com> wrote:

> tiger every year except the last season whne he
> switched to the the opel

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Wed Feb  6 08:39:59 2008
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:39:59 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] latches and locks
References: <20080120.171319.1036.0.hallosb@juno.com>
	<007b01c85bd1$4b2b98e0$6601a8c0@ACER4230>
Message-ID: <000201c868d6$8a0c96b0$800101df@garage.local>

hi, all.

i'm trying to put back together an early 67 low windshield roadster.

i did not take good pictures of the hood and trunk latches and locks.

is there a kind soul out there who will take pity on me and send me some 
pics off list?

thanks so much! 

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Wed Feb  6 11:52:43 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:52:43 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] maxwell smart drove both a tiger and an opel gt
In-Reply-To: <003b01c86876$f5968090$6700a8c0@chrissy>
References: <464836.34695.qm@web52802.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<003b01c86876$f5968090$6700a8c0@chrissy>
Message-ID: <BAY106-W42F6419B2B63182055FEDDF2D0@phx.gbl>

and the first use of misspelled 'gnarley bentley; - since at last as it
applies to a bentley, if should surely be spelled 'gnarly'

Peter


>
> BTW, I think this is the first ever use of the phrase "gnarley Bentley"
>
> Dave Brisco
> ECR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Harper [mailto:roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com]
>
>
> No, there definitely was a Karman Giaha (have no idea
> how to spell VW) in there somewhere, maybe just
> briefly....
>
> Mike SC
> --- Eric Hoffman <ericerichoffman at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > tiger every year except the last season whne he
> > switched to the the opel
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From hallosb at juno.com  Wed Feb  6 20:36:59 2008
From: hallosb at juno.com (hallosb at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 03:36:59 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] WAY OT: Datsuns in movies
Message-ID: <20080206.203659.6553.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com>

When I was a kid, I was a huge Lancelot Link fan.  I still have the metal
lunch box. From an early age, I had this strange fascination with monkeys. I
guess I wasn't the only one.  Planet of the Apes.  What were there, nine
sequels?
What's this have to do with roadsters?  I don't know. If it freaks you out,
hit the delete button.
Dan McHatton
'66 1600
---------------------------------
Lancelot Link, I'd never heard of the show, but here's evidence of the "guys"
in
front of the red roadster.

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From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Thu Feb  7 08:41:29 2008
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:41:29 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] FS in Sacto Craigslist, was 1500, now 1250
Message-ID: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D56CC19@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>

Saw this a few weeks ago in Sacramento for 1500.  now reduced to 1250.
No relation to seller.

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/565732224.html

From escanlon at wa-net.com  Thu Feb  7 12:42:54 2008
From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:42:54 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Wisconsin find on e-Bay
References: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D56CC19@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
Message-ID: <004301c869c1$a4f9d460$0300a8c0@HPW>

Someone in Wisconsin could make a few dollars on this one....just parting it 
out.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-SRL-311-Datsun-Roadster_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6188QQihZ008QQitemZ180213976864QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW


E 

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu Feb  7 13:22:12 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:22:12 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Wisconsin find on e-Bay
Message-ID: <020720082022.326.47AB6874000D9AA7000001462205889116CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Go for it, Tim! <g>

Pete

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> Someone in Wisconsin could make a few dollars on this one....just parting it 
> out.
> 
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> categoryZ6188QQihZ008QQitemZ180213976864QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
> 
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From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov  Thu Feb  7 14:34:34 2008
From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03))
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:34:34 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Help with Ebay item
Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF765C9689@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>

Can some one help me out.  I would like to get this item off Ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Willys-Military-Jeep-M38A1-1953-Black-Out
-Light-Front_W0QQitemZ310019690564QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item310019690564

And I just really don't do Ebay!  Could someone take the chance to bid
on this for me.  A lot to ask.  I would like it for my Jeep - an '06 I
am making a Marine Jeep out of.

Phil Hall
NASA/MSFC/ED03
Systems Engineering
work :        256-544-2525
cell:           256-698-4388 (new)

From escanlon at wa-net.com  Thu Feb  7 15:20:29 2008
From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:20:29 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Help with Ebay item
References: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF765C9689@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <005a01c869d7$a632eea0$0300a8c0@HPW>

Just a suggestion....make it only ONE person!  Otherwise you'll end up 
"schilling" your own auction buy price.

E


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To: <Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:34 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Help with Ebay item


> Can some one help me out.  I would like to get this item off Ebay
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Willys-Military-Jeep-M38A1-1953-Black-Out
> -Light-Front_W0QQitemZ310019690564QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item310019690564
>
> And I just really don't do Ebay!  Could someone take the chance to bid
> on this for me.  A lot to ask.  I would like it for my Jeep - an '06 I
> am making a Marine Jeep out of.
>
> Phil Hall
> NASA/MSFC/ED03
> Systems Engineering
> work :        256-544-2525
> cell:           256-698-4388 (new)
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From dcon48 at yahoo.com  Thu Feb  7 18:01:21 2008
From: dcon48 at yahoo.com (rick celis)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:01:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Electrical
Message-ID: <140731.95672.qm@web90405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello everyone,
I wanted to thank you all for your input on my
alternator problem. I just got it back from the
rebuilder today and they fixed the problem with it.
Now  a new problem has arised. After i instaled it and
wired everything back up my roomate gave me a jump. I
noticed the ground wire coming from my regulator
started to smoke and melt along with my throttle cable
which i found to be odd. Does anyone have any input on
this? Much appreciated.

RC3
70 160


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From sandhoff at csus.edu  Thu Feb  7 18:11:29 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:11:29 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Electrical
In-Reply-To: <140731.95672.qm@web90405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <47AB3BC1.8745.6D67280@localhost>

> ...I noticed the ground wire coming from my regulator
> started to smoke and melt along with my throttle cable...

You're missing a hefty flexible ground strap that should connect
between the engine block and the frame.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From tom at datsun2000.com  Thu Feb  7 20:14:22 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:14:22 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Electrical
In-Reply-To: <140731.95672.qm@web90405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BBEDIFCDCKGJDOGMACDMMEPHCAAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

On Mr. Hyde I installed a 1" wide braided strap around both motor mounts.
These were found ready made at a local auto parts store.  I have not had any
problems with engine grounding and they don't flex enough to break sometime
in the future.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of rick celis
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:01 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Electrical


Hello everyone,
I wanted to thank you all for your input on my
alternator problem. I just got it back from the
rebuilder today and they fixed the problem with it.
Now  a new problem has arised. After i instaled it and
wired everything back up my roomate gave me a jump. I
noticed the ground wire coming from my regulator
started to smoke and melt along with my throttle cable
which i found to be odd. Does anyone have any input on
this? Much appreciated.

RC3
70 160


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From gregs672liter at netzero.net  Thu Feb  7 22:45:06 2008
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 05:45:06 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] Electrical
Message-ID: <20080207.214506.25063.0@webmail22.vgs.untd.com>

Your throttle cable heated up because it became a ground wire for the engine!
Make sure your grounding wires are connecting to bare metal on the frame.  Saw
the throttle cable thing on a friends solex 2000 years ago... pretty amazing!
Greg Burrows

-- "Tom Hendricksen" <tom at datsun2000.com> wrote:
On Mr. Hyde I installed a 1" wide braided strap around both motor mounts.
These were found ready made at a local auto parts store.  I have not had any
problems with engine grounding and they don't flex enough to break sometime
in the future.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of rick celis
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:01 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Electrical


Hello everyone,
I wanted to thank you all for your input on my
alternator problem. I just got it back from the
rebuilder today and they fixed the problem with it.
Now  a new problem has arised. After i instaled it and
wired everything back up my roomate gave me a jump. I
noticed the ground wire coming from my regulator
started to smoke and melt along with my throttle cable
which i found to be odd. Does anyone have any input on
this? Much appreciated.

RC3
70 160


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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu Feb  7 23:28:19 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:28:19 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Electrical
In-Reply-To: <47AB3BC1.8745.6D67280@localhost>
Message-ID: <003001c86a1b$cc0d63f0$6501a8c0@xp>

This one:

<http://www.shiftco.com/features/zippy/zippy_017.html>

I used these from Summit Racing:

<http://tinyurl.com/2q6l3h>

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of John F Sandhoff
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:11 PM
To: rick celis
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Electrical


> ...I noticed the ground wire coming from my regulator
> started to smoke and melt along with my throttle cable...

You're missing a hefty flexible ground strap that should connect between the
engine block and the frame.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu Feb  7 23:39:49 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:39:49 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Free KA24E engine, DE harness/ECM
Message-ID: <003401c86a1d$67936d50$6501a8c0@xp>

>From the Bluebirds list...

-----Original Message-----
From: bluebirds-request at bluebirds.datsun510.com
[mailto:bluebirds-request at bluebirds.datsun510.com] On Behalf Of Tom Visel
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 4:29 PM
To: BLUEBIRDS at BLUEBIRDS.DATSUN510.COM
Subject: Free KA24E engine, DE harness/ECM


If anyone needs a KA24E engine, or KA24DE engine harness and ECM (from two
different auto trans 240SXs,) contact me off-list.

Package deal: special price today of $0.00.

Engine is complete with intake, exhaust, alternator, mount brackets,
separator plate, flex plate and torque converter, A/C compressor,
distributor, but not the P/S pump. It came from a SR20DET conversion I did
for a guy. I will give away the engine w/o the ECM and harness, but not the
other way 'round. AFAIR, the engine has about 110K on it, the last 20K by an
enthusiast. It did not die, but was removed when the guy had his money saved
for the SR transplant. The ECM comes with an unchopped engine harness and
(if I recall correctly,) an instrument panel and its harness and a couple of
other uncatalogued bits.

Will happily trade for whatever you'd like to offer, as well.

I am in Bagdad, AZ, about 80 miles out of Phoenix just off of Hwy 93 on your
way to Vegas.

<http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Bagdad,+AZ,+USA&ie=UTF8&ll=34.705493,-113.181
152&spn=3.946251,10.283203&z=7&iwloc=addr&om=0>

TomV

From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov  Fri Feb  8 06:25:28 2008
From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03))
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 07:25:28 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Ebay Item
Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF765C974A@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>

Hey everyone -

I will have Thomas King bid for me sense he is close.  Many thanks for
all the great responses!!!  Roadster people are the best!

Have a great weekend everyone!

PS... Roadster related.  Finished painting an old beat up valve cover
for the 2000 last night.  Had to fill old poor welding (from chain
coming through) with epoxy.  Painted it red to match the car.  Now to
polish out the letters and clear coat.  Looks good from a rattle
can.....

Phil Hall
NASA/MSFC/ED03
Systems Engineering
work :        256-544-2525
cell:           256-698-4388 (new)

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Fri Feb  8 08:27:16 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:27:16 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] Electrical
Message-ID: <cb1.24957a6b.34ddced4@aol.com>

In a message dated 2/7/2008 5:01:46 PM Pacific Standard Time,  dcon4
8 at yahoo.com writes:

Hello  everyone,
I wanted to thank you all for your input on my
alternator  problem. I just got it back from the
rebuilder today and they fixed the  problem with it.
Now  a new problem has arised. After i instaled it  and
wired everything back up my roomate gave me a jump. I
noticed the  ground wire coming from my regulator
started to smoke and melt along with  my throttle cable
which i found to be odd. Does anyone have any input  on
this? Much appreciated.

RC3
70 160




What I've done on about every car I own is to run the battery ground cable  
to the engine block rather than to the frame. That way you don't depend on the  
engine to frame ground straps to carry all the starting current. 
 
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From gogineni.alvin at gene.com  Fri Feb  8 12:23:08 2008
From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 11:23:08 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Mt. Hamilton/Livermore Run 2/10
Message-ID: <00ec01c86a88$09a82490$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com>

All,

This is a run that I'm doing with a few Z buddies, anyone is welcome to
join! The backside of Mt. Hamilton via 130 is a scenic route that will blow
your mind. The terrain will make you feel like you are in another state!

Plan:

On Sunday this is the plan I came up with, it allows our afternoon to be
free. 

 

-Depart around 9:00 am and head south on 101 to Alum Rock Road, east to Mt.
Hamilton Road (Hwy 130)

 

-Head southeast on 130 all the way to the summit of Mt. Hamilton. Take a
break at the summit of Mt. Hamilton. Bring a thermos of coffee or tea, and
you can use the bathrooms at the observatory. Probably get there around
10:15 - 10:30. 

 

-Head out, take San Antonio Road east to the Junction, where Mines Road and
Del Puerto Canyon Road split. 

 

break at the little cafe at the Junction? If not open then wait until
Livermore.

 

>From the Junction continue on down San Antonio/Mines Road to Livermore and
have lunch at Emil Villa's Hick'ry Pit. There are only two turns - bear
right at the bridge where Mines joins Del Valle Road, and left where Mines
joins Livermore/Tesla Road. The Hick'ry Pit Restaurant  is at the far east
side of the first shopping center on the right as you come into town. Other
food choices too. Eat on the porch if it is nice, inside if the weather is
bad. After lunch go back either on Calaveras Road or on 84.

From aultgc at att.net  Fri Feb  8 22:34:20 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:34:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Electrical
Message-ID: <929265.86579.qm@web83803.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Rick,
It sounds like the braided ground strap between the starter and the frame is missing or not properly ocnnected, and that you're grounding the motor via the throttle wire.  Bad.
There should be a ground wire from the mounting bolt on the regulator to the frame.  If the bolt securing the regulator to the inner fender makes a clean connection, the ground wire is not strictly necessary, but it's a good idea.
One of the terminals on the alternator should be grounded to the frame.  I can't get at mine right now to check to see how this terminal is labeled, but I'd guess it is "E" for "Earth".
Any comments/critique on the above from the list?

Gary Ault


----- Original Message ----
From: rick celis <dcon48 at yahoo.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2008 7:01:21 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Electrical

Hello everyone,
I wanted to thank you all for your input on my
alternator problem. I just got it back from the
rebuilder today and they fixed the problem with it.
Now  a new problem has arised. After i instaled it and
wired everything back up my roomate gave me a jump. I
noticed the ground wire coming from my regulator
started to smoke and melt along with my throttle cable
which i found to be odd. Does anyone have any input on
this? Much appreciated.

RC3
70 160


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From aultgc at att.net  Fri Feb  8 22:37:37 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:37:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Wisconsin find on e-Bay
Message-ID: <412977.31874.qm@web83822.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

The guy is talking about sending the car to the shredder.  I'll bet it can be had for a lot less than $600.   If I had the time, space and a trailer...

Gary Ault


----- Original Message ----
From: "ppeters914 at comcast.net" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2008 2:22:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wisconsin find on e-Bay

Go for it, Tim! <g>

Pete

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "E Scanlon" <escanlon at wa-net.com>
> Someone in Wisconsin could make a few dollars on this one....just parting it 
> out.
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-SRL-311-Datsun-Roadster_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ
> categoryZ6188QQihZ008QQitemZ180213976864QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
> 
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From sdwix at aol.com  Sat Feb  9 09:03:16 2008
From: sdwix at aol.com (sdwix at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 11:03:16 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster disk brake conversion
Message-ID: <8CA394C6A783DE4-B48-1FC2@webmail-md15.sysops.aol.com>

Hi all,

I'm contemplating performing the Volvo disk brake conversion on my 66 1600.? I've found a variety of prices on the calipers ranging from $36 at Checkers to $81 each at NAPA.? Does anyone have experience on which calipers to purchase and how to actually do the conversion?? 

Some of the calipers don't have a machines surface for the nice conversion block mentioned in the online writeup at www.311s.org site, so has anyone actually had the caliper surface milled?? 

Any info on the conversion is very welcomed.

Happy roadstering

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From chalsted at comcast.net  Sat Feb  9 14:24:47 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 16:24:47 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] question- transporting a roadster US to Canada
Message-ID: <003501c86b62$32939940$136fa343@craigscomputer>

I have someone in Alberta interested in one of my roadsters, does anyone have
any recommendations for a shipper to handle that? car would be coming from
Virginia. also I have no ideas how it all works with customs and duties and
appreciate advice on that. thanks in advance for any input :-)

Craig

From svedise at hotmail.com  Sat Feb  9 15:11:42 2008
From: svedise at hotmail.com (Jim Svedise)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:11:42 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw:  Mt. Hamilton/Livermore Run 2/10
Message-ID: <BAY137-DS1DD76A0EC1F9E52D7BB34B4280@phx.gbl>

> Hey Alvin,
> Where are you leaving from?? Are you taking your Z or roadster? Maybe 
> Susan and I can make .
> Jim
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Alvin Gogineni" <gogineni.alvin at gene.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 11:23 AM
> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Roadsters] Mt. Hamilton/Livermore Run 2/10
>
>> All,
>>
>> This is a run that I'm doing with a few Z buddies, anyone is welcome to
>> join! The backside of Mt. Hamilton via 130 is a scenic route that will 
>> blow
>> your mind. The terrain will make you feel like you are in another state!
>>
>> Plan:
>>
>> On Sunday this is the plan I came up with, it allows our afternoon to be
>> free.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Depart around 9:00 am and head south on 101 to Alum Rock Road, east to 
>> Mt.
>> Hamilton Road (Hwy 130)
>>
>>
>>
>> -Head southeast on 130 all the way to the summit of Mt. Hamilton. Take a
>> break at the summit of Mt. Hamilton. Bring a thermos of coffee or tea, 
>> and
>> you can use the bathrooms at the observatory. Probably get there around
>> 10:15 - 10:30.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Head out, take San Antonio Road east to the Junction, where Mines Road 
>> and
>> Del Puerto Canyon Road split.
>>
>>
>>
>> break at the little cafe at the Junction? If not open then wait until
>> Livermore.
>>
>>
>>
>>>From the Junction continue on down San Antonio/Mines Road to Livermore 
>>>and
>> have lunch at Emil Villa's Hick'ry Pit. There are only two turns - bear
>> right at the bridge where Mines joins Del Valle Road, and left where 
>> Mines
>> joins Livermore/Tesla Road. The Hick'ry Pit Restaurant  is at the far 
>> east
>> side of the first shopping center on the right as you come into town. 
>> Other
>> food choices too. Eat on the porch if it is nice, inside if the weather 
>> is
>> bad. After lunch go back either on Calaveras Road or on 84.
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From egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us  Sat Feb  9 15:27:04 2008
From: egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us (Eric Gillis)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:27:04 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 2008 Modesto/ Central Valley CA Polar Bear Run
References: <003501c86b62$32939940$136fa343@craigscomputer>
Message-ID: <65AA4A74232FF24E9BEC8D1163859B1804452304@cusdmx01.cusd.ceres.k12.ca.us>

To anyone and anycar (especially the Datsun/Nissan marques)

Here is the information about this years 20th anniversary Polar Bear Run from
the Modesto Datsun Roadsters:

email questions to mkiisupra at hotmail.com or egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us

Celebrating the 20th year with a run to Murphys!


Date:  Saturday, March 1, 2008



Starting From: Meet at the Chevron in Oakdale, across from Hershey's Chocolate
on Albers Road.  We will leave the Oakdale at 9:00 a.m.  Maps and tour info
will be passed out before we leave.



Length: We will travel about 150 miles, starting with the twists along valley
river roads, foothill roads to San Andreas, then onto lunch at Murphys, plan
upon returning to the Modesto area by 3-4 PM.



Car Prep:  Be sure to fill your tank up prior to 9 a.m., working CB radio, and
of course - TOPS DOWN!



Lunch:  Bring something to share for a potluck, and bring along your own
plate, table service, and something to drink.  Lunch will be at the park
gazebo in downtown Murphys.  Enjoy your friends (and perhaps make some new
ones), chat, relax, and share tales of roadsters.



Dash Plaques/Decals:  We will have an event decal and a memento for proof of
your great time in the valley, during late winter 2008!



Raffle:  We will have a raffle to offer at lunchtime, any raffle prizes are
welcomed and appreciated.  $1.00 per ticket.



Our 20th annual run is dedicated to the memory of Paul Smith.  Thank you for
joining us this year and have a safe, fun trip!!

From johnwightman at shaw.ca  Sat Feb  9 17:04:13 2008
From: johnwightman at shaw.ca (John Wightman)
Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 16:04:13 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] question- transporting a roadster US to Canada
In-Reply-To: <003501c86b62$32939940$136fa343@craigscomputer>
References: <003501c86b62$32939940$136fa343@craigscomputer>
Message-ID: <000701c86b78$786d0f80$69472e80$@ca>

I can't help on the shipper, but here's information on the process. As can
be expected, with two governments involved, it's a bureaucratic nightmare..

Canadian Border Agency requirements:
<<http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/pub/bsf5048-eng.html>>

Registrar of imported vehicles (primarly for cars less that 15yrs old, but
has good info on US border agency requirements):
<<http://www.riv.ca/english/html/how_to_import.html>>

HTH...
-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+johnwightman=shaw.ca at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+johnwightman=shaw.ca at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of chalsted
Sent: February-09-08 1:25 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] question- transporting a roadster US to Canada

I have someone in Alberta interested in one of my roadsters, does anyone
have
any recommendations for a shipper to handle that? car would be coming from
Virginia. also I have no ideas how it all works with customs and duties and
appreciate advice on that. thanks in advance for any input :-)

Craig

From rekeen at mtu.edu  Sun Feb 10 08:33:10 2008
From: rekeen at mtu.edu (Robert Keen)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:33:10 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Vintage car ID?
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0802101004040.9157@bios6.bio.mtu.edu>

I have a photo with a front-end view of a car from
the 1920-30s, and I need help with the car ID. (I
know who the guy is.)

<http://www.portup.com/~kakeen/boxes/car.jpg>

It looks sort of like a 1930 Packard, but there are
some differences from web images I've been able to find.

This datsun list is my principal conduit to the automotive
web world, and I know you all have a wide range of experience
and expertise, so I thought to check here first. Any help or
clues will be appreciated.

--Bob Keen
Upper Peninsula, Michigan
68 1600 (tucked in for a LONG winter's nap)

From jetteboy2002 at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 10 11:10:21 2008
From: jetteboy2002 at yahoo.com (karl mainord)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:10:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters]  OT: Vintage car ID?
Message-ID: <567086.16360.qm@web60013.mail.yahoo.com>

As far as i can tell, it is a 1929 packard, but i am not sure which model, clue is the grill shape, headlights and crossbar , two piece bumper and shape of emblem. this is just a guess, i hope it helps..Karl -1966 spl 311 "Ruby"
       
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From brianrreynolds at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 10 13:28:14 2008
From: brianrreynolds at yahoo.com (Brian Reynolds)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 15:28:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] re. question- transporting a roadster US to Canada
Message-ID: <189801.380.qm@web62401.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

I haven't transported a car to Canada, but I've spoken with people who
have. Here's my two cents:

1. A car has to clear a U.S. exit control in addition to entrance control
on the Canadian side. The US side asks that the paperwork be sent to them
24hrs(longer?) in advance. If this is not done, the driver could be stuck
overnight at the border. If no clear title to the car exists, then I think
you need to get a bill of sale or something notorarized by a lawyer - I'm
not sure so you would need to look into this further.

2. Don't lower the value of the car to pay less in tax and duties on the
Canadian side. They can delay entry for hours, days, or seize the car(!?)
Basically, it's not worth the risk.

Hope this helps.
-Brian
Toronto


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From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net  Sun Feb 10 14:24:02 2008
From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 13:24:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 15 x 6 AR wheels on Ebay
Message-ID: <535105.78914.qm@web81001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I saw these on ebay, not quite as good looking as the Libres but someone might like em! Unusual looking but  not bad.
   
  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DATSUN-240-260-280-510-AMERICAN-RACING-LEMANS-WHEELS_W0QQitemZ150214556244QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item150214556244

From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net  Sun Feb 10 14:38:27 2008
From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 13:38:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 14 x 6.5 wheels on Ebay
Message-ID: <926183.63117.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

These are also nice,had them once and now wish I never sold them. True 6.5 in rim and mine were marked CS. Someone told me once that  Carrol Shelby might have produced them way back.
   
  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/14x6-5-Minilite-style-vintage-wheels-MGB-Datsun-Z-510_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ43954QQihZ003QQitemZ130197248774QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

From msedlack at neo.rr.com  Sun Feb 10 15:28:38 2008
From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:28:38 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 14 x 6.5 wheels on Ebay
References: <926183.63117.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001301c86c34$48dc5e80$6601a8c0@p53ghzduo>

Those are the same wheels I have on the "R", except mine are 7" wide  - 
research I did identified them as being made by Western Wheel back in the 
70's.  Lots of photos of the "R" with them on it on my site.
Mark Sedlack
ZROC
Cuyahoga Falls OH
66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom PRATHER" <tomet9 at sbcglobal.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 4:38 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] 14 x 6.5 wheels on Ebay


> These are also nice,had them once and now wish I never sold them. True 6.5 
> in rim and mine were marked CS. Someone told me once that  Carrol Shelby 
> might have produced them way back.
>
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/14x6-5-Minilite-style-vintage-wheels-MGB-Datsun-Z-510_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ43954QQihZ003QQitemZ130197248774QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Sun Feb 10 17:06:57 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 16:06:57 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 15 x 6 AR wheels on Ebay
In-Reply-To: <535105.78914.qm@web81001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <PLEKIPKLOPKJCCDNMINGMENGCHAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>

This is the same style of wheel used on the BRE roadsters. It was designed
by Pete Brock. I had a set of 14x6 at one time, but the offset was wrong on
those and I let them go. Personally, I like the look better than the Libres.
YMMV.

Not a great shot here, but you can recognize the wheels:
http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/1970c.htm

As far as I know, all the AR LeMans wheels were magnesium, not aluminum.
good for a race car, but maybe not the best choice for the street. My 14x6
wheels were 8.5 lbs.

Gordon Glasgow
Renton, WA

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Behalf Of Tom PRATHER
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:24 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] 15 x 6 AR wheels on Ebay


I saw these on ebay, not quite as good looking as the Libres but someone
might like em! Unusual looking but  not bad.

  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DATSUN-240-260-280-510-AMERICAN-RACING-LEMA
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From alvingogi at hotmail.com  Sun Feb 10 23:49:36 2008
From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 06:49:36 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Mt. Hamilton Fun Run pics!
Message-ID: <BLU106-W27F4C62C5431BC5EAD18EFB52A0@phx.gbl>

We had 15 people come out and enjoy the 70 degree weather as we drove up to
Mt. Hamilton Obeservatory. Roads were great with the exception of some
sand/dust from the snow a few weeks ago.
We had 1 roadster, 1 240z, 3 350z, 2 300zxTT, an STi, and a 510.
I forgot to mention where we were meeting in my e-mail to the list, but Jim
and Susan came out anyways with his roadster:

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2347177170102308741hpSqWM

Here are the rest of the pictures:
http://rides.webshots.com/album/562425444BvMKBT

Next time I hope to have a roadster-only run !
Alvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20
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From jtorres67 at sbcglobal.net  Mon Feb 11 00:19:54 2008
From: jtorres67 at sbcglobal.net (jtorres67)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 23:19:54 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008 Registration Information
Message-ID: <000601c86c7e$81002a90$0349fea9@Torres>

Listers,

A few have had problems with the registration page of the web site.
Specifically, problems printing the registration page. I have made a PDF file
that I can e-mail to you if you are having problems. Also, being a rookie web
page designer, if anyone out there knows how to attach a PDF file to a website
and can pass on the info, I would much appreciate it. Also, we're still
looking for donations for this years show! As usual all will be much
appreciated.

Thanks,

Jeff T.

From jtorres67 at sbcglobal.net  Mon Feb 11 00:36:48 2008
From: jtorres67 at sbcglobal.net (jtorres67)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 23:36:48 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008 Registration Update Part 2
Message-ID: <000701c86c80$dce862d0$0349fea9@Torres>

Ok Listers better yet,

Attached is a PDF file format of the 2008 Solvang Datsun Roadster Classic. If
you need more info on the event see our web page at WWW.SOLVANGSHOW.COM.

Again, if your having difficulty printing from the web site, this PDF file
should work much better.

Get those registrations in early!!!

Thanks a lot!

Jeff T.

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of solvang registration 1.pdf]

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Mon Feb 11 03:48:49 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:48:49 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Mt. Hamilton Fun Run pics!
In-Reply-To: <BLU106-W27F4C62C5431BC5EAD18EFB52A0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU106-W27F4C62C5431BC5EAD18EFB52A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000401c86c9b$b15c3540$14149fc0$@net>

-----Original Message-----

We had 15 people come out and enjoy the 70 degree weather as we drove......


  Driving home yesterday evening, it was 7 degrees, .... with a wind chill
of -18.  And no, I was not driving the roadster!

Paul
Ohio 

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Mon Feb 11 05:56:11 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 07:56:11 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Rear springs?
Message-ID: <000d01c86cad$7b499120$71dcb360$@net>

  My 1969 1600 suffers like many other roadster from rear spring sag.  It
has gotten to the point where I bottom out on almost every little bump, even
with newer shocks installed.  Other than buying new springs, comp or stock,
or having the old ones reached, is there a simple solution?  Some kind of
helper springs maybe that someone has installed on their late model
roadster?  I need to get some lift in time to drive down to the Mitty this
May.

 

Paul

Ohio

From svedise at hotmail.com  Mon Feb 11 06:25:09 2008
From: svedise at hotmail.com (Jim Svedise)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:25:09 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Rear springs?
In-Reply-To: <000d01c86cad$7b499120$71dcb360$@net>
References: <000d01c86cad$7b499120$71dcb360$@net>
Message-ID: <BAY137-DS3A4B2AB6E57553C563530B42A0@phx.gbl>

Try turning the rear shackles around or flipping them so that the spring is 
at the bottom of the shackle instead of the middle. This isn't the best fix 
but it will work till you fix the springs.
Jim
70 2000

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From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:56 AM
To: "'datsun-roadsters'" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Roadsters] Rear springs?

>  My 1969 1600 suffers like many other roadster from rear spring sag.  It
> has gotten to the point where I bottom out on almost every little bump, 
> even
> with newer shocks installed.  Other than buying new springs, comp or 
> stock,
> or having the old ones reached, is there a simple solution?  Some kind of
> helper springs maybe that someone has installed on their late model
> roadster?  I need to get some lift in time to drive down to the Mitty this
> May.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
> Ohio
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From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com  Mon Feb 11 06:55:35 2008
From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 07:55:35 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Rear springs?
In-Reply-To: <000d01c86cad$7b499120$71dcb360$@net>
References: <000d01c86cad$7b499120$71dcb360$@net>
Message-ID: <47B053D7.6040106@hornesystemstx.com>

Paul,

As I recall folks have been "complaining" that after installing gas 
shocks that their car sat too high. You might try installing a set.

The competition manual had some mods to be made to the suspension 
bumpers, maybe that would help.

As a last resort you might see if you can find a set of air shocks that 
will fit.They would be the easiest mod to get more lift in the rear of 
the car.

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Paul:
>   My 1969 1600 suffers like many other roadster from rear spring sag.  It
> has gotten to the point where I bottom out on almost every little bump, even
> with newer shocks installed.  Other than buying new springs, comp or stock,
> or having the old ones reached, is there a simple solution?  Some kind of
> helper springs maybe that someone has installed on their late model
> roadster?  I need to get some lift in time to drive down to the Mitty this
> May.
>
>  
>
> Paul
>
> Ohio
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From fred.davidson at sympatico.ca  Mon Feb 11 07:19:16 2008
From: fred.davidson at sympatico.ca (Fred Davidson)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 09:19:16 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Rear springs?
In-Reply-To: <000d01c86cad$7b499120$71dcb360$@net>
Message-ID: <000001c86cb9$19f07e00$8276e2d1@DDBHLZ81>

Paul:


Hi Paul:

About 18 years ago I wanted to stiffen my rear suspension for autocross as
well as take out some of the "sag".  I went to a spring shop that worked
mostly on large trucks but some antique cars as well. They put a extra
spring leaf just under the main leaf. It was arched similar to the springs.
It wasan inexpensive fix and has worked well and the springs did not change
in height since that time. As I am restoring my suspension now, I just moved
those two spring leafs to new springs to retain the stiffness I have now.

I wouldn't change how the rear shacklers are mounted as some people have
done as I think it is an unsafe solution.

Fred
-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: February 11, 2008 7:56 AM
To: 'datsun-roadsters'
Subject: [Roadsters] Rear springs?

  My 1969 1600 suffers like many other roadster from rear spring sag.  It
has gotten to the point where I bottom out on almost every little bump, even
with newer shocks installed.  Other than buying new springs, comp or stock,
or having the old ones reached, is there a simple solution?  Some kind of
helper springs maybe that someone has installed on their late model
roadster?  I need to get some lift in time to drive down to the Mitty this
May.

 

Paul

Ohio
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From brianrreynolds at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 11 07:51:31 2008
From: brianrreynolds at yahoo.com (Brian Reynolds)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 09:51:31 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Rear springs? (new question)
Message-ID: <681085.5970.qm@web62412.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Unlike you lucky dogs over there in California, up here in Canada we have
to store our Roadsters for 5 months of winter. To prevent rear spring sag,
is it worth it to store the car with the rear end elevated allowing the
weight of the axle and wheels to put downward pressure on the springs?
Could this even reverse mild spring sag?

-Brian
Toronto


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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Mon Feb 11 07:59:03 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 09:59:03 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] Rear springs?
Message-ID: <cb3.29cce5af.34e1bcb7@aol.com>

In a message dated 2/11/2008 4:56:42 AM Pacific Standard Time,  
9laser3 at bright.net writes:

My 1969 1600 suffers like many other roadster from rear spring sag.   It
has gotten to the point where I bottom out on almost every little bump,  even
with newer shocks installed.  Other than buying new springs, comp  or stock,
or having the old ones reached, is there a simple solution?   Some kind of
helper springs maybe that someone has installed on their late  model
roadster?  I need to get some lift in time to drive down to the  Mitty this
May.



Paul

Ohio



My 66 has a pair of the clamp over the shock helper springs from JC  Witless. 
But, as I recall they don't fit the late cars due to interferance with  the 
torque rod on the rear axle. A friend of mine used the bolt on extra helper  
leaf from the same source with good success. When I got my 66 it had air shocks. 
 They were a hasle as they kept leaking down. I think the blot on helpers 
would  be your best bet. 
 
See you at the Mitty. I plan to fly in a few days early so I can rest up  
some before it starts. BTW, any roadster folks in the Atlanta area? I hope to  
bring some cameras that will be pretty bulky for the airlines and I was thinking 
 about shipping them to someone in the area and picking them up when I get  
there.
 
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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Mon Feb 11 08:00:20 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:00:20 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] Rear springs? (new question)
Message-ID: <c6d.20079750.34e1bd04@aol.com>

In a message dated 2/11/2008 6:51:52 AM Pacific Standard Time,  
brianrreynolds at yahoo.com writes:

Unlike  you lucky dogs over there in California, up here in Canada we have
to store  our Roadsters for 5 months of winter. To prevent rear spring sag,
is it  worth it to store the car with the rear end elevated allowing the
weight of  the axle and wheels to put downward pressure on the springs?
Could this  even reverse mild spring  sag?

-Brian
Toronto



Having the tires off the ground is better for the springs and the  tires.
 
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From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Mon Feb 11 12:40:27 2008
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:40:27 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Somewhat Datsun related, seller with a sense of humor
Message-ID: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D596E66@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>

Check this out.
An extra 500 bucks to keep the right to the personalized plates.
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/car/570258106.html

From 12061997 at comcast.net  Mon Feb 11 12:58:53 2008
From: 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:58:53 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: Some people have all the luck ???
Message-ID: <021120081958.26147.47B0A8FD0002394A000066232200734364C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net>

Hi list, Got to be one of the luckiest drivers I've seen...bob
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Mon Feb 11 13:24:40 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:24:40 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Rear springs?
Message-ID: <021120082024.12091.47B0AF080000B93900002F3B2213575333CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Do it right and do it once; replace or re-arch.

My two centavos....spend freely.

Pete "hoping new shocks will be enough"

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net>
>   My 1969 1600 suffers like many other roadster from rear spring sag.  It
> has gotten to the point where I bottom out on almost every little bump, even
> with newer shocks installed.  Other than buying new springs, comp or stock,
> or having the old ones reached, is there a simple solution?  Some kind of
> helper springs maybe that someone has installed on their late model
> roadster?  I need to get some lift in time to drive down to the Mitty this
> May.
> 
>  
> 
> Paul
> 
> Ohio
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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Mon Feb 11 15:00:19 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:00:19 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Rear springs? (new question)
In-Reply-To: <c6d.20079750.34e1bd04@aol.com>
References: <c6d.20079750.34e1bd04@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000501c86cf9$7fb7af20$7f270d60$@net>

  Just be careful where you jack the car up at.  You could do more damage to
the frame.  You should put the jack stands where the suspension lifts the
car.

Paul
Ohio

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net
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Behalf Of Keith0alan at aol.com
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 10:00 AM
To: brianrreynolds at yahoo.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rear springs? (new question)

In a message dated 2/11/2008 6:51:52 AM Pacific Standard Time,  
brianrreynolds at yahoo.com writes:

Unlike  you lucky dogs over there in California, up here in Canada we have
to store  our Roadsters for 5 months of winter. To prevent rear spring sag,
is it  worth it to store the car with the rear end elevated allowing the
weight of  the axle and wheels to put downward pressure on the springs?
Could this  even reverse mild spring  sag?

-Brian
Toronto



Having the tires off the ground is better for the springs and the  tires.
 
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Mon Feb 11 15:18:20 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:18:20 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Window winderuppers/downers ( registers ? )
Message-ID: <BAY106-W8B6F0EB80E44AC966148ADF2A0@phx.gbl>

Hi List

On my trip, apart from fuel filter, the only thing that FAILED was the driver
side window thingie ( see title above). I bought one from craig halsted as a
temp fix, since the only one he had had clearly got jammed at some point
causing the teeth on the window arm to get worn out, but at least my window
wound up and down.

Upon returning, I took the original apart (drilled out the rivets) to discover
that the tab attached to a gear had broken.

The window winder is actiually quite complex, with a spring to take the load
and an internal spring (almost a detent(e?)) to actuate some sort of
inexplicable buffering.

I mention this, only because the driver side is more likely to fail and one
only has to find a passenger side ( more likely) and swap the guts out.

It also would seem, that one could swap earlier winders for later winders ( or
v.v) merely by disassembling and replacing the bit that the 'crank' attaches
to, certainly the 70 had a clip - so much more annoying than the earlier
screw.

I took pix - but am awaiting a USB compatible computer to be able to
download.

So more information for the mill

if you need more information on this transformational subject, please feel
free to contact me.

Peter

Eliza - 1970 SPL311 ( TOAD SAN )

818 448 3181

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Mon Feb 11 16:19:10 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:19:10 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Rear springs?
In-Reply-To: <000001c86cb9$19f07e00$8276e2d1@DDBHLZ81>
Message-ID: <000001c86d04$82a38370$6700a8c0@chrissy>

I would go with the helpers at a commercial truck spring shop.  I had a
place make some truck springs for me, told them the height change I wanted
and 1/2 ton off the helper, 1 ton on the helper 2 inches compressed.  On the
first try they got it within 1/8 " and the ride was perfect.  Only took them
an hour,including removing and replacing the springs, and I think it was
$125.00. This was a while ago, but it was half the cost of new springs.

-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Davidson [mailto:fred.davidson at sympatico.ca]
About 18 years ago I wanted to stiffen my rear suspension for autocross as
well as take out some of the "sag".  I went to a spring shop that worked
mostly on large trucks but some antique cars as well. They put a extra
spring leaf just under the main leaf. It was arched similar to the springs.
It wasan inexpensive fix and has worked well and the springs did not change
in height since that time. As I am restoring my suspension now, I just moved
those two spring leafs to new springs to retain the stiffness I have now.

I wouldn't change how the rear shacklers are mounted as some people have
done as I think it is an unsafe solution.

From escanlon at wa-net.com  Mon Feb 11 17:16:41 2008
From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:16:41 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Rear springs? (new question)
References: <681085.5970.qm@web62412.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003901c86d0c$8b5e5730$0300a8c0@HPW>

I asked a friend of mine to confirm what I remembered, and he agreed with my 
recollection.

DON'T lift the car to the point where your tires are off the ground. 
Lifting it is not a bad idea, but only as far as removing the weight off the 
tires, and not off the ground.

While years ago a "flat spot" was something to avoid, nowdays that isn't as 
much of a problem.  However, the biggest problem with this is that even 
under the most spirited use, your car never gets airborne for an extended 
period of time (I did say extended for those of you speed bump jumpers and 
San Francisco Hill Stunt Drivers.), and as such you will now be applying 
pressure and stress to the complete opposite range of the normal motion of 
the suspension system.  Five months may be long enough to cause problems 
once you lower the car and put it back on the road.

As far as reversing the spring sag....nope.  Only if you were to apply 
enough downward pressure to effect a deformation of the spring....which is 
what they do when they re-arch them. They don't do that while they're 
mounted on the car.

2"
E

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Reynolds"

> Unlike you lucky dogs over there in California, up here in Canada we have
> to store our Roadsters for 5 months of winter. To prevent rear spring sag,
> is it worth it to store the car with the rear end elevated allowing the
> weight of the axle and wheels to put downward pressure on the springs?
> Could this even reverse mild spring sag?
>
> -Brian
> Toronto

From vlaury at roadrunner.com  Mon Feb 11 17:30:28 2008
From: vlaury at roadrunner.com (Victor Laury)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:30:28 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Test-ing ichi nee san she
Message-ID: <LEEBIJFDLPBFPMPIDECDCEAJCAAA.vlaury@roadrunner.com>

I sent a cutsty-pie post yesterday to say how great roadstering is and it
never made it to the list. I know I haven't posted in a while, but I never
thought the Team-dot-net server would forget the years I made it work so
hard.

Can you freakin hear me now?

Ok here's test one - does this server have Japanese text support -

?????????????

Does the above read "Datsun camshaft" in katakana or a row of boxes?

Test 2 - Kanji

??

The Kanji for "Nissan" or more boxes?

Please tell me what you see.. Por favor

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Mon Feb 11 17:34:57 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:34:57 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Test-ing ichi nee san she
In-Reply-To: <LEEBIJFDLPBFPMPIDECDCEAJCAAA.vlaury@roadrunner.com>
References: <LEEBIJFDLPBFPMPIDECDCEAJCAAA.vlaury@roadrunner.com>
Message-ID: <8CA3B263AC7725C-A90-2C60@webmail-nd18.sysops.aol.com>

The por favor came thru but none of the Japanese. So sorry Pap-san.

Linda

-----Original Message-----
From: Victor Laury <vlaury at roadrunner.com>
To: Datsun-Roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 4:30 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Test-ing ichi nee san she

I sent a cutsty-pie post yesterday to say how great roadstering is and 
it
never made it to the list. I know I haven't posted in a while, but I 
never
thought the Team-dot-net server would forget the years I made it work so
hard.

Can you freakin hear me now?

Ok here's test one - does this server have Japanese text support -

?????????????

Does the above read "Datsun camshaft" in katakana or a row of boxes?

Test 2 - Kanji

??

The Kanji for "Nissan" or more boxes?

Please tell me what you see.. Por favor
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From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com  Mon Feb 11 17:40:40 2008
From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:40:40 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Test-ing ichi nee san she
In-Reply-To: <LEEBIJFDLPBFPMPIDECDCEAJCAAA.vlaury@roadrunner.com>
References: <LEEBIJFDLPBFPMPIDECDCEAJCAAA.vlaury@roadrunner.com>
Message-ID: <47B0EB08.4090505@hornesystemstx.com>

Row of question marks on my machine.

go roku hachi ? kyuu ju ....It's been a long time!

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Victor Laury:
> I sent a cutsty-pie post yesterday to say how great roadstering is and it
> never made it to the list. I know I haven't posted in a while, but I never
> thought the Team-dot-net server would forget the years I made it work so
> hard.
>
> Can you freakin hear me now?
>
> Ok here's test one - does this server have Japanese text support -
>
> ?????????????
>
> Does the above read "Datsun camshaft" in katakana or a row of boxes?
>
> Test 2 - Kanji
>
> ??
>
> The Kanji for "Nissan" or more boxes?
>
> Please tell me what you see.. Por favor
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From vlaury at roadrunner.com  Mon Feb 11 17:52:12 2008
From: vlaury at roadrunner.com (Victor Laury)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:52:12 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 2nd try
Message-ID: <LEEBIJFDLPBFPMPIDECDKEAKCAAA.vlaury@roadrunner.com>

Trying again - you don't need to respond - I forgot. I can see the results
myself when I get the message back from the server. A row of question marks

This time I changed my outgoing mail format

_bgT
@J
[Vtg

Datsun camshaft again

zY).T

Nissan Jidosha

From vlaury at roadrunner.com  Mon Feb 11 17:55:00 2008
From: vlaury at roadrunner.com (Victor Laury)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:55:00 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 2nd try
In-Reply-To: <LEEBIJFDLPBFPMPIDECDKEAKCAAA.vlaury@roadrunner.com>
Message-ID: <LEEBIJFDLPBFPMPIDECDAEALCAAA.vlaury@roadrunner.com>

Well - That settles that

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+vlaury=roadrunner.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+vlaury=roadrunner.com at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Victor Laury
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:52 PM
To: Datsun-Roadsters
Subject: [Roadsters] 2nd try


Trying again - you don't need to respond - I forgot. I can see the results
myself when I get the message back from the server. A row of question marks

This time I changed my outgoing mail format

_bgT
@J
[Vtg

Datsun camshaft again

zY).T

Nissan Jidosha

From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com  Mon Feb 11 17:58:20 2008
From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:58:20 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] 2nd try
In-Reply-To: <LEEBIJFDLPBFPMPIDECDKEAKCAAA.vlaury@roadrunner.com>
References: <LEEBIJFDLPBFPMPIDECDKEAKCAAA.vlaury@roadrunner.com>
Message-ID: <47B0EF2C.9030808@hornesystemstx.com>

Since kanji is based on the Chinese character set, might it be necessary 
to turn on the Chinese support?

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Victor Laury:
> Trying again - you don't need to respond - I forgot. I can see the results
> myself when I get the message back from the server. A row of question marks
>
> This time I changed my outgoing mail format
>
> _bgT
@J
[Vtg
>
> Datsun camshaft again
>
> zY).T
>
> Nissan Jidosha
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From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Mon Feb 11 19:19:08 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:19:08 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Electrical
In-Reply-To: <cb1.24957a6b.34ddced4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <E1JOkji-00070a-2G@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Well put Keith,
When I changed the alternator on my 2000 to the opposite
(non-intake/exhaust) side (10SI Delco this time), I connected my battery
ground cable to the "upper rear" mounting bolt of the new "right side" alt
mount (to the block). I then connected another "battery type" cable to the
frame from the "lower" bolt. All were cleaned of any corrosion, paint, etc.
prior to doing this, and I used a "liberal" amount of dielectric grease on
all contacts. Cleaning and re-greasing these is now on my list of "grease
points" for my lube jobs. 
Lights got brighter, wipers worked better, heater didn't eat all my electric
power, and I don't carry jumper cables anymore! FYI, the power from the 10SI
was NOT the difference. The cable connections came AFTER the install. I
wasn't terribly impressed with JUST the 10SI change. I WAS impressed with
the 10SI upgrade AFTER the new grounding solution.  
FWIW
Matt Smith

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Keith0alan at aol.com
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:27 AM
To: dcon48 at yahoo.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Electrical

In a message dated 2/7/2008 5:01:46 PM Pacific Standard Time,  dcon4
8 at yahoo.com writes:

Hello  everyone,
I wanted to thank you all for your input on my
alternator  problem. I just got it back from the
rebuilder today and they fixed the  problem with it.
Now  a new problem has arised. After i instaled it  and
wired everything back up my roomate gave me a jump. I
noticed the  ground wire coming from my regulator
started to smoke and melt along with  my throttle cable
which i found to be odd. Does anyone have any input  on
this? Much appreciated.

RC3
70 160




What I've done on about every car I own is to run the battery ground cable  
to the engine block rather than to the frame. That way you don't depend on
the  
engine to frame ground straps to carry all the starting current. 
 
keith



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From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net  Mon Feb 11 20:31:23 2008
From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:31:23 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [Roadsters] Rear springs?
Message-ID: <30971102.1202787083754.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I took mine to a local spring shop, they added another leaf slightly shorter than the longest leaf and it solved the sagging problem for me. Per their instructions, I measured the car on the flat before going in and told them how high I wanted it to sit when completed.  Came out about 1/2 inch higher than I wanted, but no sag or bump for sure.  Cost me $135 2 years ago. Good luck, Dewey     

-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net>
>Sent: Feb 11, 2008 5:56 AM
>To: 'datsun-roadsters' <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Roadsters] Rear springs?
>
>  My 1969 1600 suffers like many other roadster from rear spring sag.  It
>has gotten to the point where I bottom out on almost every little bump, even
>with newer shocks installed.  Other than buying new springs, comp or stock,
>or having the old ones reached, is there a simple solution?  Some kind of
>helper springs maybe that someone has installed on their late model
>roadster?  I need to get some lift in time to drive down to the Mitty this
>May.
>
> 
>
>Paul
>
>Ohio
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From vlaury at roadrunner.com  Mon Feb 11 20:50:48 2008
From: vlaury at roadrunner.com (Victor Laury)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:50:48 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] One more NFIBMT update
Message-ID: <LEEBIJFDLPBFPMPIDECDGEANCAAA.vlaury@roadrunner.com>

The site below is a nice preview of the upcoming No Frills Iron Bottom
Motoring Tour. I heartly encourage any one that has an interest to Just Do
It! I also have a seat availible for a brave soul who can #1 handle my
driving, #2 Navigate. Practice - "Um,,, Vic, I think you need to turn next
right" - (unspoken - "Could you possibly lift your foot off the throttle?
maybe? Perhaps?").

http://www.bench-racing.com/html/no_frills.html

Really like the Tips he put on that page - Check it out

From aultgc at att.net  Mon Feb 11 21:01:42 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:01:42 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Rear springs?
References: <000d01c86cad$7b499120$71dcb360$@net>
Message-ID: <002f01c86d2b$fa6c9320$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

Paul,

Many years ago (maybe 30), I had a helper leafput into the rear springs of 
my '66 1600/U20.  Man, it solved the problem of bottoming, but at a price. 
The back end was so stiff ....

My extra leaf was second to the longest.  If you go that route, I'd try one 
between the shortest and the second shortest.  But I also would try to get 
some prediction of how much additional compression was being added, in 
pounds per inch.  I don't know what the resistance of the stock springs is, 
so I won't be much help in that regard.

In my case, I put new rear springs on the car, but that was maybe 1982.  If 
these prove to sag, I'll try the short leaf approach with the thinnest leaf 
I can get -- minimal "boost".

Gary Ault

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net>
To: "'datsun-roadsters'" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 6:56 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Rear springs?


>  My 1969 1600 suffers like many other roadster from rear spring sag.  It
> has gotten to the point where I bottom out on almost every little bump, 
> even
> with newer shocks installed.  Other than buying new springs, comp or 
> stock,
> or having the old ones reached, is there a simple solution?  Some kind of
> helper springs maybe that someone has installed on their late model
> roadster?  I need to get some lift in time to drive down to the Mitty this
> May.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
> Ohio
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From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Mon Feb 11 21:58:13 2008
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:58:13 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] windows, vent windows, and furry stuff
References: <008801c86683$344e6140$6700a8c0@chrissy>
Message-ID: <000701c86d33$e025ea40$800101df@garage.local>

first, my apologies.  i received this car in kit form, so i'm having to feel 
my way along.

i'm ready to reinstall the windows, vent windows (rechromed), and furry 
stuff.

is there a recommended order?

and the bolt on the base of the window - it's really just there to prevent 
it from sliding out, right?  its just a bolt, right?

thanks!

early 67 low windshield 1600 

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Mon Feb 11 22:53:33 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:53:33 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] windows, vent windows, and furry stuff
In-Reply-To: <000701c86d33$e025ea40$800101df@garage.local>
References: <008801c86683$344e6140$6700a8c0@chrissy>
	<000701c86d33$e025ea40$800101df@garage.local>
Message-ID: <BAY106-W12B7A0EEB3B112C9ACEF17DF2B0@phx.gbl>

A response from a 1970 owner - others may chime in (sure they will) - if you
are referring to the screw that is in the slide/bit that the window rests on,
there should be a plastic bit that is formed to receive the roller and it is
meant as a limiter for either lower or higher height ( i forget which -
probably higher).

Info - there is also ( at least in 1970 ) a rubber buffer in the bottom of the
door - sort of midway - that probably serves to prevent bottoming out and thus
preventing the gear that drives the window thingie from disengaging from the
actuator arm thingie that supports the window base (thingie).

Make sure the window is glued to the base because the friction from the
squeegee and the furry stuff can cause it to separate on the winding down
action.

Since you are there :

1. make sure that the rear window channel is strengthened (especially on the
driver side). I used JB-WELD to put a 1/4 inch square on the inside of the
brackets that support the channel - they are not inherently strong and prone
to break and a needless pain to replace.

2. Make sure that all parts are well lubed - slides, gear teeth - actuator
arm, spring, and internal gearing of the winder thingie.

3. Around the mechanism that actually lifts the window, there is a piece that
projects that I assume is meant to keep the actuactor arm in place - ensure
that it is in close proximity - since it stops sideways movement - i.e. moving
away from the gear in the actual winder mechanism.

I hope the use of the technical term 'thingie' doesn't confuse you  :)

Peter

818 448 3181

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Mon Feb 11 23:09:57 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:09:57 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Reinstalling Window Mechanism
Message-ID: <BAY106-W27845075E7932C218F4E04DF2B0@phx.gbl>

There is a 'bit' of metal (thin, probably aluminum ) that rides on the door
opening mechanism that is interfering with a happy reinstallation of my driver
window slide mechanism.

Any ideas where it should be and what I may do about it ??

Thx

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Mon Feb 11 23:32:05 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:32:05 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for a 510 wagon
Message-ID: <BAY106-W30490056ECDB707ADF3FA6DF2B0@phx.gbl>

Own Eliza and looking for a daily driver. Currently own a volvo, piece of safe
s**t.
If anyone comes across a 510 wagon in decent shape (nice driver, only needing
fluid changes and minor touchups - under 1K) for a reasonable price, please
let me know

thx

Peter

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Mon Feb 11 23:41:51 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:41:51 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Rear Seat Knobs - Early - FREEs
Message-ID: <BAY106-W30B6A1896943CC1270E38DF2B0@phx.gbl>

I have a set of  knobs and surrounds from an early roadster

They were located at the BOTTOM of the seat

They are in good shape - may need a bit of polishing

Any interest ??

Peter

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Tue Feb 12 08:53:58 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:53:58 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] Mitty contacts, 2L heat shields and Oregon favor
Message-ID: <cfb.28a6ccbd.34e31b16@aol.com>

Hello all,
 
    Found a couple of folks to help out with my Mitty  camera logistics, 
thanks again. 
 
    I have finally gotten around to fabricating some  2000 SU heat shields. 
While they are not perfect copies, they do look pretty  good. Mostly I am 
making them to replace missing ones on my refurbs but if  anyone is interested I 
can send pictures when they get back from being plated. 
 
    Now for the other little non roadster problem. I'm  working on restoring 
an old crawler tractor. Mine is missing the seat. Good news  is that I have 
found one. Bad news is that it is in Oregon. It is about a 3 foot  cube if 
boxed. If shipping ends up being totally out of line, is there someone  coming to 
Shasta with a truck/trailer who would have room for it? I will be  bringing the 
ice cream maker again and would be happy to make a batch for you. 
 
keith williams



**************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy 
Awards. Go to AOL Music.      
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From rksmith46 at hotmail.com  Tue Feb 12 09:12:10 2008
From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:12:10 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Rear springs?
In-Reply-To: <000d01c86cad$7b499120$71dcb360$@net>
References: <000d01c86cad$7b499120$71dcb360$@net>
Message-ID: <BAY124-W35F2935B7622974BEA4FEABF2B0@phx.gbl>

hi paul, you might try trimming the bump stops on each side,
as a temp. fix. it will give a little more travel, before bottoming
out.               bob smith  69 srl311

----------------------------------------
> From: 9laser3 at bright.net
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 07:56:11 -0500
> Subject: [Roadsters] Rear springs?
>
>   My 1969 1600 suffers like many other roadster from rear spring sag.  It
> has gotten to the point where I bottom out on almost every little bump,
even
> with newer shocks installed.  Other than buying new springs, comp or stock,
> or having the old ones reached, is there a simple solution?  Some kind of
> helper springs maybe that someone has installed on their late model
> roadster?  I need to get some lift in time to drive down to the Mitty this
> May.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
> Ohio
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Feb 12 13:30:46 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:30:46 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for a 510 wagon
Message-ID: <021220082030.3218.47B201F60005467F00000C922200735834CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Peter,

Do you mean the car only needs a maximum of an additional $1K over the selling price to be a decent daily driver?

Auto or manual matter?

Color matter?

Location matter? I'm guessing you may not want to pay another $1K to ship cross-country.

Check craigslist, the510realm.com, Dime Quarterly website, ratsun.net, and the Bluebirds mailing list.

Thanks.

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: peter harrison <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>
> Own Eliza and looking for a daily driver. Currently own a volvo, piece of safe
> s**t.
> If anyone comes across a 510 wagon in decent shape (nice driver, only needing
> fluid changes and minor touchups - under 1K) for a reasonable price, please
> let me know
> 
> thx
> 
> Peter
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Feb 12 13:35:00 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:35:00 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:Free Honda 600
Message-ID: <021220082035.1135.47B202F4000719DE0000046F2206998499CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

 North of Seattle, posted on craigslist.
 
 It's a stretch, but if you gotta have one....
 
<http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/zip/571179468.html>
From: "Dave B." <seedaveb at zipcon.com>
To: <bluebirds at bluebirds.datsun510.com>
Subject: OT:Free Honda 600
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:07:10 +0000
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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   Saw this north of Seattle, posted on craigslist.

   It's a streach, but if you gotta have one....

   http://seattle.cr aigslist.org/sno/zip/571179468.html

   Dave B.

From poontang188 at hotmail.com  Tue Feb 12 20:55:16 2008
From: poontang188 at hotmail.com (Scott Sheeler)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:55:16 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] The Roadster Nose Mask (bra)
Message-ID: <BAY139-W3501748ADA6847F7FE1B82FC240@phx.gbl>

We have received some inquiries about the bra that we made for roadsters back
in the 1980's.  We have relocated the vendor and can get them remade.  anyone
who is interested can learn more at

http://thedatsunroadsterbook.com/nosebag.html

And if you're not interested, sorry for the intrusion.Scott Sheeler1968
SRL311-03669

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Tue Feb 12 21:19:49 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:19:49 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] One more NFIBMT update
In-Reply-To: <LEEBIJFDLPBFPMPIDECDGEANCAAA.vlaury@roadrunner.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c86df7$ae2b92a0$6700a8c0@chrissy>

Vic, do you provide the sedatives, or is it BYO?  Long ride, would probably
need to redose at least once.  I'd love to go, except for the 2500 mile
commute.  You can't scare me, I've driven with Mark Dent, unmedicated.
(Well, at least I was unmedicated).

Dave Brisco
ECR


Subject: [Roadsters] One more NFIBMT update

Victor wrote:

The site below is a nice preview of the upcoming No Frills Iron Bottom
Motoring Tour. I heartly encourage any one that has an interest to Just Do
It! I also have a seat availible for a brave soul who can #1 handle my
driving, #2 Navigate. Practice - "Um,,, Vic, I think you need to turn next
right" - (unspoken - "Could you possibly lift your foot off the throttle?
maybe? Perhaps?").

http://www.bench-racing.com/html/no_frills.html

Really like the Tips he put on that page - Check it out

From roadsterdatsun at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 13 01:48:05 2008
From: roadsterdatsun at yahoo.com (Datsun Roadster)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 00:48:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] The Roadster Nose Mask (bra)
Message-ID: <67163.46853.qm@web45709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Scott, your book says the following:
Any dirt trapped underneath will scratch
the paint. 

Why would anyone want to ruin their car's paint with this item
when there are far better options out there, for example: 3M Scotchgard Paint
Protection Film is transparent and nearly invisible. This clear urethane film
protects your paint from damage from road construction, sand and salt, bug
acids, and other road hazards. These clear bras are a great alternative to
unsightly car bras and shields. Once installed, no special maintenance is
needed for the clear shield. Just wash and wax as you normally would. 
This
item also  Costs less than the monstrosity of that bra you are selling!!!
I
sure hope someone can get this started so we can have the clear nose masks

We
will take prepaid orders - a $50.00 deposit - for the next 60 days (until
April 30).  As soon as we get enough prepaids, we'll order the bras.

Whats up
with this Scott?? don't you have enough money to fund these projects before
proposing them???
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From vze2fhba at verizon.net  Wed Feb 13 03:51:35 2008
From: vze2fhba at verizon.net (Charles Breault)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 05:51:35 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] The Roadster Nose Mask (bra)
References: <67163.46853.qm@web45709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c86e2e$674ba1e0$60f9fea9@home>

Wow, that's pretty harsh don't you think? If you don't like the old style 
standard nose mask then don't order one. There is no reason to berate 
someone. You ask for 50.00 deposits to fund your project and then accuse 
Scott of not having enough to fund his. He was just putting the info out 
there for any that might be interested. Get a grip.
I'll sign my name.
Charlie Breault
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Datsun Roadster" <roadsterdatsun at yahoo.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] The Roadster Nose Mask (bra)


> Scott, your book says the following:
> Any dirt trapped underneath will scratch
> the paint.
>
> Why would anyone want to ruin their car's paint with this item
> when there are far better options out there, for example: 3M Scotchgard 
> Paint
> Protection Film is transparent and nearly invisible. This clear urethane 
> film
> protects your paint from damage from road construction, sand and salt, bug
> acids, and other road hazards. These clear bras are a great alternative to
> unsightly car bras and shields. Once installed, no special maintenance is
> needed for the clear shield. Just wash and wax as you normally would.
> This
> item also  Costs less than the monstrosity of that bra you are selling!!!
> I
> sure hope someone can get this started so we can have the clear nose masks
>
> We
> will take prepaid orders - a $50.00 deposit - for the next 60 days (until
> April 30).  As soon as we get enough prepaids, we'll order the bras.
>
> Whats up
> with this Scott?? don't you have enough money to fund these projects 
> before
> proposing them???
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From poontang188 at hotmail.com  Wed Feb 13 06:16:32 2008
From: poontang188 at hotmail.com (Scott Sheeler)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:16:32 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] The Roadster Nose Mask (bra)
In-Reply-To: <67163.46853.qm@web45709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <67163.46853.qm@web45709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY139-W313473A12EE5178780E1D0FC240@phx.gbl>

Dean:

As I mentioned, for those that could read, "if you're not interested, sorry
for the intrusion."

No, I don't have $2000 to throw on a custom item.  I think I mentined that
too.

I did, however, have enough time and money to write and publish my own
manual.

What was your excuse for that lame copy you bootlegged and USED TO SELL?

Apologies to the List for this mud-slinging, but I get testy when my
reputation and intent are impugned by a copyright-infringing jack_ _ _. You
may have to look up "impugned", Dean.Scott
Sheelerhttp://thedatsunroadsterbook.com/> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 00:48:05
-0800> From: roadsterdatsun at yahoo.com> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] The Roadster Nose Mask (bra)> > Scott, your book says
the following:> Any dirt trapped underneath will scratch> the paint. > > Why
would anyone want to ruin their car's paint with this item> when there are far
better options out there, for example: 3M Scotchgard Paint> Protection Film
is transparent and nearly invisible. This clear urethane film> protects your
paint from damage from road construction, sand and salt, bug> acids, and other
road hazards. These clear bras are a great alternative to> unsightly car bras
and shields. Once installed, no special maintenance is> needed for the clear
shield. Just wash and wax as you normally would. > This> item also Costs less
than the monstrosity of that bra you are selling!!!> I> sure hope someone can
get this started so we can have the clear nose masks> > We> will take prepaid
orders - a $50.00 deposit - for the next 60 days (until> April 30). As soon as
we get enough prepaids, we'll order the bras.> > Whats up> with this Scott??
don't you have enough money to fund these projects before> proposing them???>
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From d-solomon at comcast.net  Wed Feb 13 07:05:37 2008
From: d-solomon at comcast.net (d-solomon at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:05:37 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] The Roadster Nose Mask (bra)
Message-ID: <021320081405.29910.47B2F93100008F3A000074D622069984990201030104019CD30B@comcast.net>

Hey there "RoadsterDatsun"...... Back the bus up a bit, will ya?

I am largely a lurker here, posting once in a while, but reading and enjoying most of what goes on here. 
I thought Scott's offer to help other find a reasonable product at a reasonable price was about as genuine an offer as he could have made, wether you like the "old-school" look or not.  
I thought your response to him was completely out of line, however.  for one, it made me quite certain I'd never get involved with any of your products / sales / etc.  
More than that though, I would think that a sincere aoplogy is in order.  (To Scott, not to me.)

Dan  

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: Datsun Roadster <roadsterdatsun at yahoo.com> 

> Scott, your book says the following: 
> Any dirt trapped underneath will scratch 
> the paint. 
> 
> Why would anyone want to ruin their car's paint with this item 
> when there are far better options out there, for example: 3M Scotchgard Paint 
> Protection Film is transparent and nearly invisible. This clear urethane film 
> protects your paint from damage from road construction, sand and salt, bug 
> acids, and other road hazards. These clear bras are a great alternative to 
> unsightly car bras and shields. Once installed, no special maintenance is 
> needed for the clear shield. Just wash and wax as you normally would. 
> This 
> item also Costs less than the monstrosity of that bra you are selling!!! 
> I 
> sure hope someone can get this started so we can have the clear nose masks 
> 
> We 
> will take prepaid orders - a $50.00 deposit - for the next 60 days (until 
> April 30). As soon as we get enough prepaids, we'll order the bras. 
> 
> Whats up 
> with this Scott?? don't you have enough money to fund these projects before 
> proposing them??? 
> _____________________________________________________________________________ 
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From lars.tungen at abaris.no  Wed Feb 13 08:03:45 2008
From: lars.tungen at abaris.no (Lars Tungen)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:03:45 +0100
Subject: [Roadsters] Competition & H20 engine parts added to the roadster
 online parts catalog
Message-ID: <005401c86e51$a1415980$343ea8c0@ABARIS.LOCAL>

Hi all,

I have tried to collect all competition part numbers that has been available
for the roadsters from Nissan Motorsport (Nismo). The results have been
listed in a new section named "Competition" on
http://datsun311parts.tungen.net/ 

The part numbers have been sourced from two Datsun Competition Part manuals
from the early 70's and supplemented with what could be found using Google.
The pages covering the roadster parts are also available for download from a
new download page on the site. 

Some part numbers are probably still missing. If you see anything missing,
please drop me a note and I will add it to the listings.

A different version of the parts microfiche and an H20 engine parts manual
(Nissan Urvan E20 commercial vehicle) are also available on the new download
page on the site.

Thanks,
Lars Tungen
Norway
Datsun roadster parts catalog: 
http://datsun311parts.tungen.net/

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From tputland at charter.net  Wed Feb 13 08:19:43 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:19:43 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] The Roadster Nose Mask (bra)
In-Reply-To: <021320081405.29910.47B2F93100008F3A000074D622069984990201030104019CD30B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20080213101943.YFMFL.374206.root@fepweb11>

AMEN.

Back to lurking here once again.

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- d-solomon at comcast.net wrote:

=============
Hey there "RoadsterDatsun"...... Back the bus up a bit, will ya?

I am largely a lurker here, posting once in a while, but reading and enjoying
most of what goes on here.
I thought Scott's offer to help other find a reasonable product at a
reasonable price was about as genuine an offer as he could have made, wether
you like the "old-school" look or not.
I thought your response to him was completely out of line, however.  for one,
it made me quite certain I'd never get involved with any of your products /
sales / etc.
More than that though, I would think that a sincere aoplogy is in order.  (To
Scott, not to me.)

Dan

-------------- Original message --------------
From: Datsun Roadster <roadsterdatsun at yahoo.com>

> Scott, your book says the following:
> Any dirt trapped underneath will scratch
> the paint.
>
> Why would anyone want to ruin their car's paint with this item
> when there are far better options out there, for example: 3M Scotchgard
Paint
> Protection Film is transparent and nearly invisible. This clear urethane
film
> protects your paint from damage from road construction, sand and salt, bug
> acids, and other road hazards. These clear bras are a great alternative to
> unsightly car bras and shields. Once installed, no special maintenance is
> needed for the clear shield. Just wash and wax as you normally would.
> This
> item also Costs less than the monstrosity of that bra you are selling!!!
> I
> sure hope someone can get this started so we can have the clear nose masks
>
> We
> will take prepaid orders - a $50.00 deposit - for the next 60 days (until
> April 30). As soon as we get enough prepaids, we'll order the bras.
>
> Whats up
> with this Scott?? don't you have enough money to fund these projects before
> proposing them???
>
_____________________________________________________________________________
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From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov  Wed Feb 13 08:57:30 2008
From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03))
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:57:30 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] OT:   Ultimate Drag Race
Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF7660E347@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>

This is the ultimate Drag Race: a 1000 HP Bugatti Veyron and a Jet
Fighter.

The two will start side by side from a dead stop. The car will go 1
mile, slow down enough to turn around on a full width runway, reverse
course and return to the initial starting point.  The fighter will take
off as quickly as possible, go straight up 1 mile, turn around and come
back down to about 100' off the deck to fly parallel to the car and
attempt to cross the Finish Line first.

http://www.snotr.com/video/568


Phil
SEROC

From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net  Wed Feb 13 09:18:23 2008
From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:18:23 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [Roadsters] Competition & H20 engine parts added to the
 roadster online parts catalog
Message-ID: <14109868.1202919503832.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Lars, My thanks and appreciation to you for a truly outstanding job that you have done with your parts catalog.  Your effort is a real benefit to the roadster community.  I think a lot of roadster lovers, me included, will find this a great help in keeping our cars on the road.  

Thanks again, Dewey Hahlbohm    

-----Original Message-----
>From: Lars Tungen <lars.tungen at abaris.no>
>Sent: Feb 13, 2008 8:03 AM
>To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>Subject: [Roadsters] Competition & H20 engine parts added to the roadster online parts catalog
>
>Hi all,
>
>I have tried to collect all competition part numbers that has been available
>for the roadsters from Nissan Motorsport (Nismo). The results have been
>listed in a new section named "Competition" on
>http://datsun311parts.tungen.net/ 
>
>The part numbers have been sourced from two Datsun Competition Part manuals
>from the early 70's and supplemented with what could be found using Google.
>The pages covering the roadster parts are also available for download from a
>new download page on the site. 
>
>Some part numbers are probably still missing. If you see anything missing,
>please drop me a note and I will add it to the listings.
>
>A different version of the parts microfiche and an H20 engine parts manual
>(Nissan Urvan E20 commercial vehicle) are also available on the new download
>page on the site.
>
>Thanks,
>Lars Tungen
>Norway
>Datsun roadster parts catalog: 
>http://datsun311parts.tungen.net/
>
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From sales at foilgraphics.com  Wed Feb 13 09:27:16 2008
From: sales at foilgraphics.com (Guy)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:27:16 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] The Roadster Nose Mask (bra)
References: <67163.46853.qm@web45709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<000f01c86e2e$674ba1e0$60f9fea9@home>
Message-ID: <001401c86e5d$520e6c70$6e01a8c0@sales2006>

I agree.  No reason not to be civilized.  Good grief...sounds like Hillary 
and Obama....nasty.  Of course,  IMHO.
Guy
67.5
stroker (kind of)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Breault" <vze2fhba at verizon.net>
To: "Datsun Roadster" <roadsterdatsun at yahoo.com>; 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] The Roadster Nose Mask (bra)


> Wow, that's pretty harsh don't you think? If you don't like the old style
> standard nose mask then don't order one. There is no reason to berate
> someone. You ask for 50.00 deposits to fund your project and then accuse
> Scott of not having enough to fund his. He was just putting the info out
> there for any that might be interested. Get a grip.
> I'll sign my name.
> Charlie Breault
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Datsun Roadster" <roadsterdatsun at yahoo.com>
> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] The Roadster Nose Mask (bra)
>
>
>> Scott, your book says the following:
>> Any dirt trapped underneath will scratch
>> the paint.
>>
>> Why would anyone want to ruin their car's paint with this item
>> when there are far better options out there, for example: 3M Scotchgard
>> Paint
>> Protection Film is transparent and nearly invisible. This clear urethane
>> film
>> protects your paint from damage from road construction, sand and salt, 
>> bug
>> acids, and other road hazards. These clear bras are a great alternative 
>> to
>> unsightly car bras and shields. Once installed, no special maintenance is
>> needed for the clear shield. Just wash and wax as you normally would.
>> This
>> item also  Costs less than the monstrosity of that bra you are selling!!!
>> I
>> sure hope someone can get this started so we can have the clear nose 
>> masks
>>
>> We
>> will take prepaid orders - a $50.00 deposit - for the next 60 days (until
>> April 30).  As soon as we get enough prepaids, we'll order the bras.
>>
>> Whats up
>> with this Scott?? don't you have enough money to fund these projects
>> before
>> proposing them???
>> _____________________________________________________________________________
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From chalsted at comcast.net  Wed Feb 13 09:53:48 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:53:48 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] The Roadster Nose Mask (bra)
References: <67163.46853.qm@web45709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <005401c86e61$01251670$136fa343@craigscomputer>

totally out of line. without a public in front of the list apology to Scott, 
I will have to rethink ever sending business your way or buying parts from 
you again. some of us have to struggle to make ends meet, and on top of your 
unwarranted and unprofessional remarks about the nose bag, you just managed 
to insult every one of us as well. most of us have always had rent or a 
mortgage to pay, and few of us inherit or are loaned enough money from 
family to fund a business. shame on you.

Craig Halsted 

From jklingman at stny.rr.com  Wed Feb 13 10:06:02 2008
From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:06:02 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] The Roadster Nose Mask (bra)
Message-ID: <001601c86e62$b6e4fdd0$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>

We enjoy the exchange of ideas, opinions, questions, advice, and events, it is
a wonderful site for this. Different opinions are great, exchanged with
respect.  As Pat signs....Peace!!
    Gloria and John Klingman

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Wed Feb 13 11:05:32 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:05:32 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel additives
Message-ID: <8CA3C8228E0771D-1324-4880@webmail-ne12.sysops.aol.com>

Someone recommended Dura Lube fuel additive to me and i wondered if you 
guys thought it was a good product to use on occasion or is it just for 
fuel injection engines?
TIA
Linda
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Wed Feb 13 12:16:37 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:16:37 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Nose Mask (bra)
Message-ID: <8CA3C8C16B77E4B-1324-4DDE@webmail-ne12.sysops.aol.com>

Prepaid orders can work very nicely for those who are interested in 
participating, and no one is twisitng their arm to do so, as evidenced 
by the ball joint project and others.
Unless it was a misguided attempt at humor the comments came across as 
rude. I don't think we need that kind of thing on this List.
I support Scott as well.
Linda

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim <tputland at charter.net>
To: d-solomon at comcast.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; Datsun 
Roadster <roadsterdatsun at yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 7:19 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] The Roadster Nose Mask (bra)

AMEN.

Back to lurking here once again.

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- d-solomon at comcast.net wrote:

=============
Hey there "RoadsterDatsun"...... Back the bus up a bit, will ya?

I am largely a lurker here, posting once in a while, but reading and 
enjoying
most of what goes on here.
I thought Scott's offer to help other find a reasonable product at a
reasonable price was about as genuine an offer as he could have made, 
wether
you like the "old-school" look or not.
I thought your response to him was completely out of line, however. for 
one,
it made me quite certain I'd never get involved with any of your 
products /
sales / etc.
More than that though, I would think that a sincere aoplogy is in 
order. (To
Scott, not to me.)

Dan

-------------- Original message --------------
From: Datsun Roadster <roadsterdatsun at yahoo.com>

> Scott, your book says the following:
> Any dirt trapped underneath will scratch
> the paint.
>
> Why would anyone want to ruin their car's paint with this item
> when there are far better options out there, for example: 3M 
Scotchgard
Paint
> Protection Film is transparent and nearly invisible. This clear 
urethane
film
> protects your paint from damage from road construction, sand and 
salt, bug
> acids, and other road hazards. These clear bras are a great 
alternative to
> unsightly car bras and shields. Once installed, no special 
maintenance is
> needed for the clear shield. Just wash and wax as you normally would.
> This
> item also Costs less than the monstrosity of that bra you are 
selling!!!
> I
> sure hope someone can get this started so we can have the clear nose 
masks
>
> We
> will take prepaid orders - a $50.00 deposit - for the next 60 days 
(until
> April 30). As soon as we get enough prepaids, we'll order the bras.
>
> Whats up
> with this Scott?? don't you have enough money to fund these projects 
before
> proposing them???
>
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From roadsterdatsun at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 13 12:25:22 2008
From: roadsterdatsun at yahoo.com (Datsun Roadster)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:25:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw:  The Roadster Nose Mask (bra)
Message-ID: <850806.3064.qm@web45716.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Scott, Or should I say Dumb Ass!!  No this is not Dean, Nice job of accusing an innocnt person.  By the way you are so eager to blame someone, you pointed Dean out, what is your beef with Dean exactly since you ar epublicly accusing him, perhaps an apology from you to Dean is in order you imbecile!!









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From tputland at charter.net  Wed Feb 13 12:34:47 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:34:47 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw:  The Roadster Nose Mask (bra)
In-Reply-To: <850806.3064.qm@web45716.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20080213143447.U6AWX.392456.root@fepweb11>

Wow...grow some balls and sign your bloody name. Or get off the list. WE don't need nor want your crap on this forum.

Grow the hell up.

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- Datsun Roadster <roadsterdatsun at yahoo.com> wrote: 

=============
Scott, Or should I say Dumb Ass!!  No this is not Dean, Nice job of accusing an innocnt person.  By the way you are so eager to blame someone, you pointed Dean out, what is your beef with Dean exactly since you ar epublicly accusing him, perhaps an apology from you to Dean is in order you imbecile!!









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From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Wed Feb 13 12:31:22 2008
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (Mike H.)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:31:22 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw:  The Roadster Nose Mask (bra)
References: <850806.3064.qm@web45716.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <006501c86e77$044fc780$6500a8c0@lap>

Well,
Now I'm dying to know! Who the hell is this un-named "person" anyway?
Mike Hudson - Roadster owning Consumer

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Datsun Roadster" <roadsterdatsun at yahoo.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:25 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: The Roadster Nose Mask (bra)


> Scott, Or should I say Dumb Ass!!  No this is not Dean, Nice job of
accusing an innocnt person.  By the way you are so eager to blame someone,
you pointed Dean out, what is your beef with Dean exactly since you ar
epublicly accusing him, perhaps an apology from you to Dean is in order you
imbecile!!

From vze2fhba at verizon.net  Wed Feb 13 12:48:12 2008
From: vze2fhba at verizon.net (vze2fhba at verizon.net)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:48:12 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Roadsters]
 =?utf-8?q?Fw=3A_=C3=82=C2=A0The_Roadster_Nose_Mask_?=
 =?utf-8?b?KGJyYSk=?=
Message-ID: <27310698.769371202932092225.JavaMail.root@vms075.mailsrvcs.net>

>From: Datsun Roadster <roadsterdatsun at yahoo.com>
>Date: 2008/02/13 Wed PM 01:25:22 CST
>To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>Subject: [Roadsters] Fw:  The Roadster Nose Mask (bra)

>Scott, Or should I say Dumb Ass!!  No this is not Dean, Nice job of accusing an innocnt person.  By the way you are so eager to blame someone, you pointed Dean out, what is your beef with Dean exactly since you ar epublicly accusing him, perhaps an apology from you to Dean is in order you imbecile!!
Ah,
Now I understand. We are now dealing with some cowardly adolecent who cleverly made their email address look like Dean's. For what it's worth, I never thought it was Dean as he would never make such a personal public attack. IMO
Charlie Breault

From ericerichoffman at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 13 13:13:34 2008
From: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com (Eric Hoffman)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:13:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] spray on clear paint protection
Message-ID: <768526.49928.qm@web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Due to me putting big fat wide wheels and high performance tires (and because of the shape of the car) my Opel GT was getting stone chips behind each wheel at a alarming rate.  I was an inch away from getting the 3M Clearbra solution when I found out that there is a clear rock guard paint.  It's a two part product that must be applied by a body shop.  There are two manufacturers: Armor Coat
   
  http://armorcoat.armorauto.com/
   
  and Dominion Sure Seal (which is much cheaper and I have not tried it)
   
  http://www.dominionsureseal.com/productsdetails.asp?id=313&catid=39
   
  On the Ferrari Chat website a guy posted pictures of the excellent results with the Armor Coat product, I can't find the link but it shouldn't be hard to find.
   
  Hope that's interesting,
   
  Eric Hoffman
   
   

       
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From ericerichoffman at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 13 13:19:27 2008
From: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com (Eric Hoffman)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:19:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] more on the Armor Coat paint protection solution
Message-ID: <236923.76078.qm@web36906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I would give more feedback on my results (other than it looks great) but I have not put any miles on my car since having the Armor Coat paint guard applied.  However on the Ferrari Chat website the guy posting info about his results sprayed some on a spare body panel and threw rocks at it with impressive results, the panel would dent from stone damage before rocks would break the product.
       
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From James at jdfogg.com  Wed Feb 13 13:42:53 2008
From: James at jdfogg.com (James Fogg)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:42:53 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel additives
Message-ID: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A2572C4@sbs.jdfogg.com>

> Someone recommended Dura Lube fuel additive to me and i wondered if
you
> guys thought it was a good product to use on occasion or is it just
for
> fuel injection engines?
> TIA
> Linda


With the exception of diesel engines I don't believe any fuel additives
are a good idea. Some can address specific problems short term (and not
usually very well), but the engine was designed to run on gasoline. Any
additive that can scour deposits will usually scour rubber seals and
old-tech materials if given enough time. Diesels have a few of their own
unique problems regarding temperature related fuel gelling and now ultra
low sulfur fuel and it's lack of lubrication for the injector pump. I do
use a diesel additive in my farm tractor.

I do use a fuel stabilizer if a vehicle isn't going to get much use, and
for those vehicles I buy gasoline at a busy station (so the gasoline is
fresher). A stabilizer is supposed to extend shelf life by 6 months, but
I've had some tanks turn well before that date or immediately after.

As for Dura Lube in particular, some of their products have been
thoroughly debunked and a web search will turn up some info.

From michaelspreadbury at comcast.net  Wed Feb 13 13:59:42 2008
From: michaelspreadbury at comcast.net (michaelspreadbury at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:59:42 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] The Roadster Nose Mask (bra)
Message-ID: <021320082059.1633.47B35A3E00028487000006612205886442979D9A0D0B0E0A9D9F9C040A0E080C0703@comcast.net>

Yep, another childish spoof e-mail takes the roadster list hook, line and sinker...

Dean at Datsun Parts has always been professional in my dealings with him and has given my business excellent support over the years with our roadster restorations... 

Let's get back to business-- Datsun Roadsters!

Michael Spreadbury
spriso motorsports
Corvallis, Oregon



 -------------- Original message ----------------------
Charlie wrote: 

> Now I understand. We are now dealing with some cowardly adolecent who cleverly 
> made their email address look like Dean's. For what it's worth, I never thought 
> it was Dean as he would never make such a personal public attack. IMO
> Charlie Breault

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Wed Feb 13 14:00:52 2008
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:00:52 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] snaplets
References: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D2D5EE0@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
	<475497C4.1000702@hornesystemstx.com>
Message-ID: <000601c86e83$86285360$60a7a8c0@garage.local>

not sure what they are called - the things that the convertible top or
tonneau snaps onto.

anyway, i'm no expert or big mechanic, but last weekend i had to put those
in.  three out of four on each side are easy, but that fourth one caused me
to stop and think.  this is my own little way of solving that problem.

i've documented the process on my website (www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun) 
if you click on the update link in beginning it will jump right to it.

here are the direct links.  i hope it helps at least one other person!

http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun/DSCN2234.JPG

http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun/DSCN2234.JPG

http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun/DSCN2227.JPG

http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun/DSCN2228.JPG

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Feb 13 14:10:51 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:10:51 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel additives
Message-ID: <021320082110.29536.47B35CDB0003BE4E000073602200750744CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Dura Lube? Sounds more like a competitor product to KY. <rimshot!>

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Pete "hey, it's hump day"

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net
> Someone recommended Dura Lube fuel additive to me and i wondered if you 
> guys thought it was a good product to use on occasion or is it just for 
> fuel injection engines?
> TIA
> Linda
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Feb 13 14:20:18 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:20:18 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] spray on clear paint protection
Message-ID: <021320082120.17963.47B35F12000025F10000462B2200750744CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

A Ferrari guy? That's a pretty good endorsement....

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Eric Hoffman <ericerichoffman at yahoo.com>
> Due to me putting big fat wide wheels and high performance tires (and because of 
> the shape of the car) my Opel GT was getting stone chips behind each wheel at a 
> alarming rate.  I was an inch away from getting the 3M Clearbra solution when I 
> found out that there is a clear rock guard paint.  It's a two part product that 
> must be applied by a body shop.  There are two manufacturers: Armor Coat
>    
>   http://armorcoat.armorauto.com/
>    
>   and Dominion Sure Seal (which is much cheaper and I have not tried it)
>    
>   http://www.dominionsureseal.com/productsdetails.asp?id=313&catid=39
>    
>   On the Ferrari Chat website a guy posted pictures of the excellent results 
> with the Armor Coat product, I can't find the link but it shouldn't be hard to 
> find.
>    
>   Hope that's interesting,
>    
>   Eric Hoffman
>    
>    
> 
>        
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From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 13 14:39:57 2008
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:39:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel additives
In-Reply-To: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A2572C4@sbs.jdfogg.com>
Message-ID: <726206.74336.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

lurk mode off...
   
  Modern oils are so good, I feel convinced that unless your engine is worn out, you don't need any additives. 
   
  JimG
  Lurk mode on

James Fogg <James at jdfogg.com> wrote:
  > Someone recommended Dura Lube fuel additive to me and i wondered if
you
> guys thought it was a good product to use on occasion or is it just
for
> fuel injection engines?
> TIA
> Linda


With the exception of diesel engines I don't believe any fuel additives
are a good idea. Some can address specific problems short term (and not
usually very well), but the engine was designed to run on gasoline. Any
additive that can scour deposits will usually scour rubber seals and
old-tech materials if given enough time. Diesels have a few of their own
unique problems regarding temperature related fuel gelling and now ultra
low sulfur fuel and it's lack of lubrication for the injector pump. I do
use a diesel additive in my farm tractor.

I do use a fuel stabilizer if a vehicle isn't going to get much use, and
for those vehicles I buy gasoline at a busy station (so the gasoline is
fresher). A stabilizer is supposed to extend shelf life by 6 months, but
I've had some tanks turn well before that date or immediately after.

As for Dura Lube in particular, some of their products have been
thoroughly debunked and a web search will turn up some info.
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From d-solomon at comcast.net  Wed Feb 13 14:55:50 2008
From: d-solomon at comcast.net (d-solomon at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:55:50 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw:  The Roadster Nose Mask (bra)
Message-ID: <021320082155.29306.47B36766000D58A20000727A22007507440201030104019CD30B@comcast.net>

How difficult is it to remove this poster from the list?  I think we've seen what he's about.  

I'm fine hitting the delete button when I see his posts, but is there a better avenue available to the moderators?

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: Datsun Roadster <roadsterdatsun at yahoo.com> 

> Scott, Or should I say Dumb Ass!! No this is not Dean, Nice job of accusing an 
> innocnt person. By the way you are so eager to blame someone, you pointed Dean 
> out, what is your beef with Dean exactly since you ar epublicly accusing him, 
> perhaps an apology from you to Dean is in order you imbecile!! 
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Feb 13 15:01:04 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:01:04 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Removing/banning posters and posers
Message-ID: <021320082201.13695.47B368A00002027F0000357F2213575333CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

There are no moderators. Emailing Mark (the list owner) may or may not get a speedy response.

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: d-solomon at comcast.net
> How difficult is it to remove this poster from the list?  I think we've seen 
> what he's about.  
> 
> I'm fine hitting the delete button when I see his posts, but is there a better 
> avenue available to the moderators?
> 
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: Datsun Roadster <roadsterdatsun at yahoo.com> 
> 
> > Scott, Or should I say Dumb Ass!! No this is not Dean, Nice job of accusing an 
> > innocnt person. By the way you are so eager to blame someone, you pointed Dean 
> > out, what is your beef with Dean exactly since you ar epublicly accusing him, 
> > perhaps an apology from you to Dean is in order you imbecile!! 
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From sandhoff at csus.edu  Wed Feb 13 15:43:13 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:43:13 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Let's everyone chill, please
Message-ID: <47B30201.7300.20160C@localhost>

Come on, folks, step away from the keyboard....

Let's just DROP the current flamefest. Move along,
nothing to see, nothing to respond to.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From michaelspreadbury at comcast.net  Wed Feb 13 15:44:14 2008
From: michaelspreadbury at comcast.net (michaelspreadbury at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:44:14 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Message from Dean The Roadster Nose Mask (bra)
	ASSUMPTION!
Message-ID: <021320082244.8122.47B372BE0007CD5200001FBA2206998499979D9A0D0B0E0A9D9F9C040A0E080C0703@comcast.net>

Dean is having issues posting to the list, so I am forwarding on this message for him,

Michael


-------------- Forwarded Message: --------------
From: "datsun parts.com" <datsunpartsdotcom at yahoo.com>
To: michaelspreadbury at comcast.net
Subject: Resend: [Roadsters] The Roadster Nose Mask (bra) ASSUMPTION!
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:34:23 +0000
> Michael,
>    
>     This is what I wrote. Maybe you can forward it so I can have some equal 
> time.
>    
>   Dean
> 
> "datsun parts.com" <datsunpartsdotcom at yahoo.com> wrote:      To Scott and the 
> list,
>    
>        I have not read all the emails regarding this. I'll answer to this one. 
>        I'll say again, as expressed to Scott before,   Don Morrell told me he 
> had the rights to all Rising Sun name, product and inventory. I went off his 
> word that he owned the name written on every page of the old manuel. When you 
> expressed to him and to me that you owned  the manuel....I threw away all my 
> copies
>        This email, concerning the bra,  that everyone is talking about is not 
> me. I was on a business trip the past five days as stated in my web-site. I 
> didn't even know you made a bra for the roadsters. My email address is the one 
> you all are looking at.
>        I think that a lot of people made assumptions and jumped to the 
> conclusion that this email came from me because it was signed by a "Dean". There 
> are alot of people named Dean on the planet, I happen to be one of them.
>        Let me be clear that I do not have a problem with Scott at all and I did 
> not send this email.
>        In the future, Scott,  please have the courtesy to contact me and ask if 
> I made such a statement.
>   I would not assume the worst of you given the same circumstance.
>    
>   Dean Apostal
> 
> Scott Sheeler <poontang188 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>   Dean:
> 
> As I mentioned, for those that could read, "if you're not interested, sorry
> for the intrusion."
> 
> No, I don't have $2000 to throw on a custom item. I think I mentined that
> too.
> 
> I did, however, have enough time and money to write and publish my own
> manual.
> 
> What was your excuse for that lame copy you bootlegged and USED TO SELL?
> 
> Apologies to the List for this mud-slinging, but I get testy when my
> reputation and intent are impugned by a copyright-infringing jack_ _ _. You
> may have to look up "impugned", Dean.

From poontang188 at hotmail.com  Wed Feb 13 16:33:06 2008
From: poontang188 at hotmail.com (Scott Sheeler)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:33:06 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Sincere Apology to Dean Apostal (hope I spelled that
	right)
Message-ID: <BAY139-W26453D0AAAC77921D237D4FC240@phx.gbl>

One last item before this ends.

I was duped by my faceless, nameless antagonist into believing his (her)
message was coming from Dean Apostal of Fairlady Products. They did not.  Dean
is innocent of the belligerence that infected the list earlier today.

To Dean and the list I apologize.  Dean and I have had our differences on
several issues, but this issue was clearly not one of them.

Dean, I am truly sorry for dragging you through the mud in front of the
roadster community.  Please accept my sincere apology.  You have every right
to be offended and indignant.

My faceless, nameless antagonist, however, is still a jackass.Scott
Sheelerhttp://thedatsunroadsterbook.com/

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Wed Feb 13 16:38:50 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:38:50 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Sincere Apology to Dean Apostal (hope I spelled
 that	right)
In-Reply-To: <BAY139-W26453D0AAAC77921D237D4FC240@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY139-W26453D0AAAC77921D237D4FC240@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY106-W924D3F6939016A0696A73DF240@phx.gbl>

"And that", said Alice, "is that" - hopefully

----------------------------------------
> From: poontang188 at hotmail.com
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:33:06 -0500
> Subject: [Roadsters] Sincere Apology to Dean Apostal (hope I spelled that
right)
>
> One last item before this ends.
>
> I was duped by my faceless, nameless antagonist into believing his (her)
> message was coming from Dean Apostal of Fairlady Products. They did not.
Dean
> is innocent of the belligerence that infected the list earlier today.
>
> To Dean and the list I apologize.  Dean and I have had our differences on
> several issues, but this issue was clearly not one of them.
>
> Dean, I am truly sorry for dragging you through the mud in front of the
> roadster community.  Please accept my sincere apology.  You have every
right
> to be offended and indignant.
>
> My faceless, nameless antagonist, however, is still a jackass.Scott
> Sheelerhttp://thedatsunroadsterbook.com/
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From msedlack at neo.rr.com  Wed Feb 13 16:55:56 2008
From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:55:56 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] A bit of humor to lighten things up
Message-ID: <001701c86e9b$f98c8020$6601a8c0@p53ghzduo>

A young lady walks onto a car lot, and spies a beautiful, fully restored '66
Roadster.  She immediately goes over to get a closer look at it. As she bends
over to get a better look at the flat dash and the rest of the interior, she
inadvertently breaks wind.

Very embarrassed, she looks around nervously to see if anyone has noticed her
little accident and prays that a sales person doesn't pop up right now. As she
turns around, her worst nightmare materializes in the form of a salesman
standing right behind her.

Cool as a cucumber and displaying complete professionalism, the salesman
greets the young lady with,

'Good day, Miss. How may we help you today?'

Very uncomfortably, but hoping that the salesman may just not have been there
at the time of her little 'accident', she asks, 'Sir, what are you asking for
this little gem?'  He answers, 'Miss, if you farted just looking at it, you're
going to sh*t when I tell you the price.'

From datsunpartsdotcom at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 13 17:00:38 2008
From: datsunpartsdotcom at yahoo.com (datsun parts.com)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:00:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Sincere Apology to Dean Apostal (hope I spelled
 that right)
In-Reply-To: <BAY139-W26453D0AAAC77921D237D4FC240@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <851063.7167.qm@web36502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks Scott...all is forgotten. I accept your apology.
   
  Dean


Scott Sheeler <poontang188 at hotmail.com> wrote:
  One last item before this ends.

I was duped by my faceless, nameless antagonist into believing his (her)
message was coming from Dean Apostal of Fairlady Products. They did not. Dean
is innocent of the belligerence that infected the list earlier today.

To Dean and the list I apologize. Dean and I have had our differences on
several issues, but this issue was clearly not one of them.

Dean, I am truly sorry for dragging you through the mud in front of the
roadster community. Please accept my sincere apology. You have every right
to be offended and indignant.

My faceless, nameless antagonist, however, is still a jackass.Scott
Sheelerhttp://thedatsunroadsterbook.com/
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From tputland at charter.net  Wed Feb 13 17:12:28 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:12:28 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] OT kinda but still car related
Message-ID: <20080213191228.ODDBJ.489869.root@fepweb13>

http://www.wreckedexotics.com/

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From fergus06 at socal.rr.com  Wed Feb 13 18:35:16 2008
From: fergus06 at socal.rr.com (Fergus OFarrell)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:35:16 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] wiper recomission suggestions
Message-ID: <00e601c86ea9$da50dcc0$96b44a42@fergus031a2176>

When I bought my car years ago, I tried the wipers once or twice, and they
moved at a decrepit rate, then one day just stopped.  Being kept busy by more
relevant mechanical challenges, it has been years since they worked. (I
thought Rain-X was snake oil, but I swear by it now, although I have only
driven twice in the rain)
So now I am prepping for the Iron Bottom, which means I really should give it
a good effort getting them back going.

Any suggestions as to where to start? (most all know of my
electrical-ineptitude, having read of my blinker / tailite  / fusebox woes).
I was thinking:
1. remove and clean all contacts on switch (check fuses of course)
2. make sure wiring harness is not preventing operation (seems very close on
drivers side)

One question:
I have completely removed the center console and heater box, leaving only the
E-flasher switch intact.  Is any of the wiper operation related to anything
switch-wise in the center console?  (like low/hi speed related to the heater
fan lo-hi speed resistor mounted within the heater box?)

thanks for the suggestions,
Fergus O, 69 2000, HB, CA

From graemes at internode.on.net  Wed Feb 13 19:04:48 2008
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:34:48 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] wiper recomission suggestions
In-Reply-To: <00e601c86ea9$da50dcc0$96b44a42@fergus031a2176>
References: <00e601c86ea9$da50dcc0$96b44a42@fergus031a2176>
Message-ID: <000e01c86ead$fc204530$426fa8c0@desktop>

"1. remove and clean all contacts on switch (check fuses of course) 
2. make sure wiring harness is not preventing operation (seems very close on
drivers side)
One question:
I have completely removed the center console and heater box, leaving only
the E-flasher switch intact.  Is any of the wiper operation related to
anything switch-wise in the center console?  (like low/hi speed related to
the heater fan lo-hi speed resistor mounted within the heater box?)
thanks for the suggestions,
Fergus O, 69 2000, HB, CA"

Hi F O'F,
before doing anything real tricky, I suggest the following: -
Disconnect the crank that couples the wiper motor to the wiper mechanism.
With all electrical stuff normally connected, operate the wiper switch and
see if the wiper motor behaves normally or at all.
That will tell you whether you have an electrical problem or a mechanical
problem.
Try to operate the wiper mechanism by hand, I would be surprised if the
pivots will let you!
It is more likely that the linkage has frozen up but you need to isolate the
two systems, mech and elec. before you know where to go next.
Wiper motor is not related to any heater control etc. just the relevant 8A
power fuse [W] and the wiper switch on the dash.


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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Wed Feb 13 19:45:26 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:45:26 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] wiper recomission suggestions
In-Reply-To: <000e01c86ead$fc204530$426fa8c0@desktop>
References: <00e601c86ea9$da50dcc0$96b44a42@fergus031a2176>
	<000e01c86ead$fc204530$426fa8c0@desktop>
Message-ID: <8CA3CCACA045E59-DAC-379A@webmail-nc13.sysops.aol.com>

Fergus,
You might clean the fuse box contacts including underneath the fuse box 
itself.

Linda


-----Original Message-----
From: Graeme <graemes at internode.on.net>
To: 'Fergus OFarrell' <fergus06 at socal.rr.com>; 
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 6:04 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] wiper recomission suggestions










"1. remove and clean all contacts on switch (check fuses of course)
2. make sure wiring harness is not preventing operation (seems very 
close on
drivers side)
One question:
I have completely removed the center console and heater box, leaving 
only
the E-flasher switch intact.  Is any of the wiper operation related to
anything switch-wise in the center console?  (like low/hi speed related 
to
the heater fan lo-hi speed resistor mounted within the heater box?)
thanks for the suggestions,
Fergus O, 69 2000, HB, CA"

Hi F O'F,
before doing anything real tricky, I suggest the following: -
Disconnect the crank that couples the wiper motor to the wiper 
mechanism.
With all electrical stuff normally connected, operate the wiper switch 
and
see if the wiper motor behaves normally or at all.
That will tell you whether you have an electrical problem or a 
mechanical
problem.
Try to operate the wiper mechanism by hand, I would be surprised if the
pivots will let you!
It is more likely that the linkage has frozen up but you need to 
isolate the
two systems, mech and elec. before you know where to go next.
Wiper motor is not related to any heater control etc. just the relevant 
8A
power fuse [W] and the wiper switch on the dash.


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From efrisbee at charter.net  Wed Feb 13 21:10:26 2008
From: efrisbee at charter.net (Eric Frisbee)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:10:26 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw:  The Roadster Nose Mask (bra)
In-Reply-To: <850806.3064.qm@web45716.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <PGECLILGAOHNLNJIFPMAMEHACGAA.efrisbee@charter.net>

Dearest coward,

We know you use AT&T for your ISP.  Nice try at using proxies to seem like
you are coming from Amsterdam.  Please post again so we can confirm your
location... :P

Eric



-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+efrisbee=charter.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+efrisbee=charter.net at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Datsun Roadster
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:25 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: The Roadster Nose Mask (bra)


Scott, Or should I say Dumb Ass!!  No this is not Dean, Nice job of accusing
an innocnt person.  By the way you are so eager to blame someone, you
pointed Dean out, what is your beef with Dean exactly since you ar epublicly
accusing him, perhaps an apology from you to Dean is in order you imbecile!!







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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Wed Feb 13 21:15:44 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:15:44 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Competition & H20 engine parts added to the
 roadsteronline parts catalog
In-Reply-To: <005401c86e51$a1415980$343ea8c0@ABARIS.LOCAL>
Message-ID: <000001c86ec0$454a1bc0$6700a8c0@chrissy>

Lars, You are the man!

Dave Brisco

-----Original Message-----
From: Lars Tungen [mailto:lars.tungen at abaris.no]

Hi all,

I have tried to collect all competition part numbers that has been available
for the roadsters from Nissan Motorsport (Nismo). The results have been
listed in a new section named "Competition" on
http://datsun311parts.tungen.net/

The part numbers have been sourced from two Datsun Competition Part manuals
from the early 70's and supplemented with what could be found using Google.
The pages covering the roadster parts are also available for download from a
new download page on the site.

Some part numbers are probably still missing. If you see anything missing,
please drop me a note and I will add it to the listings.

A different version of the parts microfiche and an H20 engine parts manual
(Nissan Urvan E20 commercial vehicle) are also available on the new download
page on the site.

From roadster at astound.net  Wed Feb 13 21:59:27 2008
From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:59:27 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster article in this months Hemmimgs
In-Reply-To: <356321.88130.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <356321.88130.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5FB516DF-6ED7-4B9D-9525-EF79C1B2CF8A@astound.net>

Finally got around to reading about Ron Eastman's daily driver, thanks  
for the note about this nice roadster article. (Hemmings Sports &  
Exotic Cars - March 2008.) Kudos to him for fixing up a busted old  
project.

Took notice of his statement "I have also seen a lot of people who get  
a car like mine who blow it apart and it's never done; it gets sold to  
a new owner in boxes." For various personal reasons, I'm pondering  
whether to sell off my first roadster owned since 1971, currently in a  
bunch of boxes and parts scattered around my home. Someone please tell  
me our roadsters will be worth a half million bucks so I can get  
motivated to complete the project!

Fred Katz - So.SF, CA
3 1/2 roadsters

On Jan 23, 2008, at 7:43 PM, Ritchie Labate wrote:

> Good article and pics in this months Hemmings Sports and Exotic Cars  
> (March 2008), on owner Ron Eastman's '68 1600, page 48.
>
>  Also:
>
>  Page 10- the Lane Motor Museum in Nashville is having a  Z car  
> exhibit now through July 28. www.lanemotormuseum.org.
>
>  RL
>
>  '68 2000

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Wed Feb 13 22:08:43 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:08:43 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster article in this months Hemmimgs
In-Reply-To: <5FB516DF-6ED7-4B9D-9525-EF79C1B2CF8A@astound.net>
References: <356321.88130.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<5FB516DF-6ED7-4B9D-9525-EF79C1B2CF8A@astound.net>
Message-ID: <BAY106-W42520FAD8A6BDD5BEE3C16DF250@phx.gbl>

> Someone please tell me our roadsters will be worth a half million bucks so I
can get motivated to complete the project

Your roadster will be worth half a million bucks - now get working :)

From rksmith46 at hotmail.com  Wed Feb 13 22:17:30 2008
From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:17:30 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster article in this months Hemmimgs
In-Reply-To: <BAY106-W42520FAD8A6BDD5BEE3C16DF250@phx.gbl>
References: <356321.88130.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<5FB516DF-6ED7-4B9D-9525-EF79C1B2CF8A@astound.net> 
	<BAY106-W42520FAD8A6BDD5BEE3C16DF250@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY124-W3045102254CC1DBDC2D5C1BF250@phx.gbl>

yeeeaah, thats the ticket (jon lovitt [sp.?] SNL)

                bob smith 69 srl311

----------------------------------------
> From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:08:43 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster article in this months Hemmimgs
>
> > Someone please tell me our roadsters will be worth a half million bucks so
I
> can get motivated to complete the project
>
> Your roadster will be worth half a million bucks - now get working :)
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From tminerpcav at aol.com  Wed Feb 13 22:24:47 2008
From: tminerpcav at aol.com (tminerpcav at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:24:47 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw:  The Roadster Nose Mask (bra)
In-Reply-To: <PGECLILGAOHNLNJIFPMAMEHACGAA.efrisbee@charter.net>
Message-ID: <8CA3CE10C487553-E8C-64E0@webmail-nd02.sysops.aol.com>

This guy is one incredible ASSHOLE. He probably lives in his mom's basement.



Tim Miner


---- Original Message ----
From: Eric Frisbee <efrisbee at charter.net>
To: Datsun Roadster <roadsterdatsun at yahoo.com>; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 8:10 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fw: The Roadster Nose Mask (bra)




Dearest coward,

We know you use AT&T for your ISP.  Nice try at using proxies to seem like
you are coming from Amsterdam.  Please post again so we can confirm your
location... :P

Eric



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From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+efrisbee=charter.net at autox.team.net
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Behalf Of Datsun Roadster
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Scott, Or should I say Dumb Ass!!  No this is not Dean, Nice job of accusing
an innocnt person.  By the way you are so eager to blame someone, you
pointed Dean out, what is your beef with Dean exactly since you ar epublicly
accusing him, perhaps an apology from you to Dean is in order you imbecile!!







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From RHCsports at aol.com  Thu Feb 14 10:54:02 2008
From: RHCsports at aol.com (RHCsports at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:54:02 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster article in this months Hemmimgs
Message-ID: <d52.24577467.34e5da3a@aol.com>

Thanks Fred,
 
I hope all owners of boxed Roadsters will eventually get to drive them to  
know the thrill the rest of us get. 
In all fairness, one of mine also is in pieces. I just ran out of  boxes!
 
And for those of you who can't find the Magazine, I will post the article  
(or someone will) I am just waiting a few weeks to allow Hemmings to sell a few  
more magazines ( I support copyright ).
 
Ron
 
 



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From bubwin at mts.net  Thu Feb 14 11:23:21 2008
From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:23:21 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] wiper recomission suggestions
In-Reply-To: <00e601c86ea9$da50dcc0$96b44a42@fergus031a2176>
References: <00e601c86ea9$da50dcc0$96b44a42@fergus031a2176>
Message-ID: <338A7FD5A17449D7A7F319DB0DB06AC1@ownerPC>

I agree with the use of windshield "Snake Oil".  Having Ice raced a Datsun 
510, I would use it because sometimes you would get wet snow thrown onto the 
windshield, and you know how those wipers are, and I've used it on regular 
and Lexan windshields.

For those of you who have never used either,  Imagine a downpour where your 
wipers cannot keep up while travelling at 60 mph.  Would you turn OFF your 
wipers?  Well with these products, turning the wipers off in such conditions 
can sometimes IMPROVE your visibility.  Yes, at 60 mph.

I tried 2 or 3 different types, and have settled on Castrol ClearVue.  It 
works equally as well as Rain-X, but you don't need to buff it.  You spray 
it on a clean windshield, and wipe it off.  Buffing Rain-X is too much like 
buffing wax off a car, and you should try that at 20 below.  I also use it 
on the side and rear windows, and outside mirrors.  All my daily drivers get 
this treatment every 2-3 months, and my 2 oldest sons are sold on it too.

THEY ARE THAT GOOD!

Bob Winslade
1966-1600 Missy
1967-1600 Bender


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fergus OFarrell" <fergus06 at socal.rr.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 7:35 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] wiper recomission suggestions


> When I bought my car years ago, I tried the wipers once or twice, and they
> moved at a decrepit rate, then one day just stopped.  Being kept busy by 
> more
> relevant mechanical challenges, it has been years since they worked. (I
> thought Rain-X was snake oil, but I swear by it now, although I have only
> driven twice in the rain)
> So now I am prepping for the Iron Bottom, which means I really should give 
> it
> a good effort getting them back going.
>
> Any suggestions as to where to start? (most all know of my
> electrical-ineptitude, having read of my blinker / tailite  / fusebox 
> woes).
> I was thinking:
> 1. remove and clean all contacts on switch (check fuses of course)
> 2. make sure wiring harness is not preventing operation (seems very close 
> on
> drivers side)
>
> One question:
> I have completely removed the center console and heater box, leaving only 
> the
> E-flasher switch intact.  Is any of the wiper operation related to 
> anything
> switch-wise in the center console?  (like low/hi speed related to the 
> heater
> fan lo-hi speed resistor mounted within the heater box?)
>
> thanks for the suggestions,
> Fergus O, 69 2000, HB, CA
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From racery at comcast.net  Thu Feb 14 12:16:34 2008
From: racery at comcast.net (racery at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:16:34 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Rain-X
Message-ID: <021420081916.2860.47B49392000096D900000B2C2213528573979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net>

Stuff works great, as long as it's not REALLY raining.
And you keep moving at a decent clip.

In a full downpour, the wiper does a better job.

That's especially true as you approach 120 mph...

I run a single wiper, and as a test last season, rain-x'ed
the other side of the windshield.  We took the green in
a light mist, and I was almost ready to pull into the pits
and do the whole 'screen, the rain-x was working so well.
 Then the skies opened up, and
I changed my mind completely- you couldn't see through
the rain-x, but the wiper wasn't too bad.  
It looks pretty cool on the video...

The fog-x on the inside works pretty well, too...

Toby

From efrisbee at charter.net  Thu Feb 14 13:30:27 2008
From: efrisbee at charter.net (Eric Frisbee)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:30:27 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] List nameless cowards
In-Reply-To: <67163.46853.qm@web45709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <PGECLILGAOHNLNJIFPMAAEHFCGAA.efrisbee@charter.net>

 For those of you who are ABSOLUTELY sick and tired of the nameless cowards
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them.

Once you have located this dipshits ISP, you can then send an email to the
ISP abuse email with a copy of the offending emails.   I've already sent out
complaint emails.   Good luck!!

Eric

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http://www.online-tech-tips.com/computer-tips/how-to-track-the-original-loca
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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Thu Feb 14 20:39:38 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:39:38 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] wiper recomission suggestions
In-Reply-To: <338A7FD5A17449D7A7F319DB0DB06AC1@ownerPC>
Message-ID: <000101c86f84$65540330$6700a8c0@chrissy>

I checked mine, they worked SLOWLY, so I didn't think about them again until
a downpour on the way out of The Glen.  The started slow, and gradually got
better and better, but it was a bit stressful in a downpour hoping they
would keep working.  I guess the old dried up grease finally melted and
started working. The amazing part is I was using a couple of tightly rolled
up blue paper shop towels as a top-to-windshield weatherstrip, never put the
new seal on after replacinf the top.  It didn't leak a drop in a 4 hour
drive in heavy rain.

I agree with the suggestion to isolate the mechancal and electrical sections
and check them.  I would guess one or both of the pivots are stuck.
Whatever solvents, peneetrating oil, explosives etc used to get them free, I
would make sure there is a way to get a good "sticky" lube in there after it
is all cleaned out so it stays lubed and won't wash or run out over time.  I
would guess they were greased from the factory, so there is probably a brass
bushing in there..

Good luck
Dave
-
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fergus OFarrell" <fergus06 at socal.rr.com>

>
>
> Any suggestions as to where to start? ......

From d-solomon at comcast.net  Thu Feb 14 21:15:56 2008
From: d-solomon at comcast.net (Daniel Solomon)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:15:56 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] body parts needed
Message-ID: <47B511FC.1070008@comcast.net>

Hey all:
I thought I had arranged for the parts I needed, but I've just found out 
that the ones I was about to purchase are actually NOT for a 
low-windshield...
SOOOO....

Does anyone have a low-windshield body that they are cutting up (or 
wouldn't MIND cutting up)?  What I'm looking for is the Door Hinge Posts 
(or 'jamb') and / or the rocker panel.  Or even a SECTION of a rocker 
panel,  so that I can use it to fab my own.

Lookie here:  this is what I'm up against on my own car:
http://s233.photobucket.com/albums/ee266/d-solomon/?action=view&current=DVC01365.jpg

I'm in significant need... as you can see.

Dan

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Thu Feb 14 22:00:59 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:00:59 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] snaplets
In-Reply-To: <000601c86e83$86285360$60a7a8c0@garage.local>
Message-ID: <PLEKIPKLOPKJCCDNMINGAEPGCHAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>

That works. Here's another way.

I just put a dab of silicone sealant on my fingertip and stuck the nut and
lockwasher in it. Then I pressed my fingertip up against the hole and
screwed the postie (that's the technical term for it) into it. Worked like
Loktite.

BTW, you'll usually hear them referred to as "posties" and "twisties." I
have no idea what the real names are.  ;-)

Gordon Glasgow
Renton, WA

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Oliver
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:01 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] snaplets


not sure what they are called - the things that the convertible top or
tonneau snaps onto.

anyway, i'm no expert or big mechanic, but last weekend i had to put those
in.  three out of four on each side are easy, but that fourth one caused me
to stop and think.  this is my own little way of solving that problem.

i've documented the process on my website (www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun)
if you click on the update link in beginning it will jump right to it.

here are the direct links.  i hope it helps at least one other person!

http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun/DSCN2234.JPG

http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun/DSCN2234.JPG

http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun/DSCN2227.JPG

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From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Fri Feb 15 00:21:38 2008
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 23:21:38 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Rain-X
References: <021420081916.2860.47B49392000096D900000B2C2213528573979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000a01c86fa3$684a6ec0$0b3fcf18@Daryl>

Have to say I thought it was just another way to get money out of people's 
pockets, But on a recent snowy trip to Edmonton my brother coated the 
windshield. I was very surprised at how well it works.
Coat the whole windshield Toby, and keep running the wiper. You gonna be 
surprised at how much it helps with the wipers on as well!

Daryl
(now with 3 of my own vehicles using it, and converted a couple freinds 
too!!)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <racery at comcast.net>
To: "roadster list" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:16 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Rain-X


> Stuff works great, as long as it's not REALLY raining.
> And you keep moving at a decent clip.
>
> In a full downpour, the wiper does a better job.
>
> That's especially true as you approach 120 mph...
>
> I run a single wiper, and as a test last season, rain-x'ed
> the other side of the windshield.  We took the green in
> a light mist, and I was almost ready to pull into the pits
> and do the whole 'screen, the rain-x was working so well.
> Then the skies opened up, and
> I changed my mind completely- you couldn't see through
> the rain-x, but the wiper wasn't too bad.
> It looks pretty cool on the video...
>
> The fog-x on the inside works pretty well, too...
>
> Toby

From graemes at internode.on.net  Fri Feb 15 03:41:23 2008
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:11:23 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] body parts needed
In-Reply-To: <47B511FC.1070008@comcast.net>
References: <47B511FC.1070008@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000001c86fbf$50faf5c0$426fa8c0@desktop>

Ewwwwwwrrrrr!
I thought MY Roadster was the worst example of THAT!
On a positive note, I have been able to repair the base of my "A" pillars,
which were worse than yours, so I'm sure you can too.
I also intend to replace the ENTIRE sill or rocker as you call it on BOTH
sides.
The shape is relatively simple to re-produce, I hope to be able to do it
myself with my modest sheet metal brake.
I wouldn't have thought that either of these panels were different to HI/LO
windshield cars?? 
If it will help, I can send you a template of the sill panel profile so you
can have a replacement folded up.
For a dose of Deja Vu see: -
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7d729b3127ccebb41319345ac00000066100Aa
uGjFq2bt2KA
and
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7d729b3127ccebb41f01505d200000056100Aa
uGjFq2bt2KA
"Hey all:
I thought I had arranged for the parts I needed, but I've just found out
that the ones I was about to purchase are actually NOT for a
low-windshield...
Does anyone have a low-windshield body that they are cutting up (or wouldn't
MIND cutting up)?  What I'm looking for is the Door Hinge Posts (or 'jamb')
and / or the rocker panel.  Or even a SECTION of a rocker panel,  so that I
can use it to fab my own."

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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Fri Feb 15 04:26:51 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 06:26:51 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] snaplets
In-Reply-To: <PLEKIPKLOPKJCCDNMINGAEPGCHAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>
References: <000601c86e83$86285360$60a7a8c0@garage.local>
	<PLEKIPKLOPKJCCDNMINGAEPGCHAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <002201c86fc5$aa472990$fed57cb0$@net>

  If Gordon says they're twisties and posties then that's what they are!

  I use the same dab of silicone sealant trick, not only to hold those small
nuts & washers but to help prevent rust.  It seals up the holes nicely.  The
same trick works wonders when working with the side trim.

Paul
Ohio

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Gordon Glasgow
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 12:01 AM
To: Oliver; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] snaplets

That works. Here's another way.

I just put a dab of silicone sealant on my fingertip and stuck the nut and
lockwasher in it. Then I pressed my fingertip up against the hole and
screwed the postie (that's the technical term for it) into it. Worked like
Loktite.

BTW, you'll usually hear them referred to as "posties" and "twisties." I
have no idea what the real names are.  ;-)

Gordon Glasgow
Renton, WA

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Oliver
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:01 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] snaplets


not sure what they are called - the things that the convertible top or
tonneau snaps onto.

anyway, i'm no expert or big mechanic, but last weekend i had to put those
in.  three out of four on each side are easy, but that fourth one caused me
to stop and think.  this is my own little way of solving that problem.

i've documented the process on my website (www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun)
if you click on the update link in beginning it will jump right to it.

here are the direct links.  i hope it helps at least one other person!

http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun/DSCN2234.JPG

http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun/DSCN2234.JPG

http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun/DSCN2227.JPG

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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Fri Feb 15 04:32:08 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 06:32:08 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Rain-X
In-Reply-To: <000a01c86fa3$684a6ec0$0b3fcf18@Daryl>
References: <021420081916.2860.47B49392000096D900000B2C2213528573979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net>
	<000a01c86fa3$684a6ec0$0b3fcf18@Daryl>
Message-ID: <002301c86fc6$671a8c60$354fa520$@net>

  I use Rain-X on my 1600.  I got stuck leading a roadster group at MidOhio
Vintage down to the Saturday night party at Mitch's one year.  Hit a
thunderstorm that dropped 2" of rain in less than 30 minutes.  The water was
so heavy on the free way I was hopping back and forth in the ruts left by
the truck in front of me; just like driving in deep snow.  Never turned on
the wipers, Rain-X worked just fine.  Better yet, the hardtop never leaked a
drop.  The odd part was when we got to Mitch's, a mere 30 miles down the
road, it was dry and never did rain a drop?

Paul
Ohio

From RWM at RWMann.com  Fri Feb 15 04:32:04 2008
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM (Out of the Office))
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 06:32:04 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Rain-X
In-Reply-To: <000a01c86fa3$684a6ec0$0b3fcf18@Daryl>
References: <021420081916.2860.47B49392000096D900000B2C2213528573979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net>
	<000a01c86fa3$684a6ec0$0b3fcf18@Daryl>
Message-ID: <47B57834.6030507@RWMann.com>

In my experience, it requires 2-3 applications for best results 
whereupon it works well on windshields for 60-90 days (depending on 
season; less in summer heat).  If the wipers are used heavily, it 
degrades sooner in the area swept/scraped by the wiper blades.  Works 
for a longer time on side and back windows not subject to 
wind/rain/wiper impact.

Factoid:  the original application for the same chemical formulation was 
for aircraft windscreens, to supplement or replace wiper use on final 
approach, landing and rollout.

- Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex  (and other Rain-X coated vehicles)




Daryl Smith wrote:

>Have to say I thought it was just another way to get money out of people's 
>pockets, But on a recent snowy trip to Edmonton my brother coated the 
>windshield. I was very surprised at how well it works.
>Coat the whole windshield Toby, and keep running the wiper. You gonna be 
>surprised at how much it helps with the wipers on as well!
>
>Daryl
>(now with 3 of my own vehicles using it, and converted a couple freinds 
>too!!)
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: <racery at comcast.net>
>To: "roadster list" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:16 AM
>Subject: [Roadsters] Rain-X
>
>
>  
>
>>Stuff works great, as long as it's not REALLY raining.
>>And you keep moving at a decent clip.
>>
>>In a full downpour, the wiper does a better job.
>>
>>That's especially true as you approach 120 mph...
>>
>>I run a single wiper, and as a test last season, rain-x'ed
>>the other side of the windshield.  We took the green in
>>a light mist, and I was almost ready to pull into the pits
>>and do the whole 'screen, the rain-x was working so well.
>>Then the skies opened up, and
>>I changed my mind completely- you couldn't see through
>>the rain-x, but the wiper wasn't too bad.
>>It looks pretty cool on the video...
>>
>>The fog-x on the inside works pretty well, too...
>>
>>Toby

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Fri Feb 15 05:53:45 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:53:45 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] for sale - New England Area
Message-ID: <002d01c86fd1$cd83bcf0$688b36d0$@net>

No affiliation with the seller...came across the bluebird list this morning.

 

 

For Sale : Datsun 1972 510

Modified, 2.0l, dual sidedraft carbs, Magnaflow Exhaust, coilovers, auto
power, rollbar Sparco Racing Seats, 4pt harnesses Panasport Ultralight
Wheels, Datsun Roadster short throw 5spd. needs very little work $7,500obo.
Call for more info. 

Limington, ME

207-637-2641

From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Fri Feb 15 06:39:29 2008
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:39:29 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Wiper results: Success!
Message-ID: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D61355F@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>

Well, some very good advice all around.
In an attempt to isolate the mechanical/electrical systems, I removed
both seats and the steering wheel (50% of every project is "access"),
and found thet years ago when I removed the headlite switch for
cleaning, (by reaching around) I must have shoved the dash wiring
harness upward, so that it "caught the wiper arm.   also it looked like
the PO should have routed the wiring harness UNDER the idle adjust
cable, not OVER.
So, once I wire-tied it down solid, I tried for 30-60 minutes to pull
the snap ring on the wiper driver arm.  I have snap ring pliers, but
this ring has no holes in it, and no undercut on the backside to wedge a
screwdriver tip in.
At that point I stopped and started on the electrical checkout, and
realized that during my tailite/blinker/fusebox fiasco, I had been
driving at nite and had the fuse blow and had run out of fuses, so stole
one from the next available 10A location, the WIPERS!
Replaced it and they now work.  Low speed and hi-speed are the same
speed, with the motor just singing about 4 notes higher.  I lubed the
pivots with Dry Lube, and they are free (and my armpits smell like CRC
336!).

Thanks for the replies and helpful suggestions from all.

Most curious thing.  My PO left this car out in the rain in Pasadena
regularly, (it was the "shop truck" at a Z restorer) so portions of the
underdash have some surface, and various parts taken off (center
console) have been much worse.  But, the wiper motor and linkage look
like they were cad-plated within the last month.  Most peculiar mama!

Seats re-webbed, wipers operational, Iron Bottom readiness achievable.
(with the new category details at Solvang, I thought I was going to have
to enter the SuperModified category, once everyone heard my wipers
didn't work I was technically "not street legal" !)

Thanks again,  Fergus O, 69 2000, HB, CA

From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com  Fri Feb 15 09:31:49 2008
From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:31:49 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] snaplets
In-Reply-To: <PLEKIPKLOPKJCCDNMINGAEPGCHAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <C3DAFE75.6F68%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>

I installed that 4th twistie - the one tucked way in there - by
rubberbanding a small wrench to my fingertip. It was effortless. The bolt
stayed put and centered. That trick could work even better if you magnetized
the wrench first. 

Wrenches on fingertips - imagine the possibilities!

Greg 
SRL31100494
Roadstering since '75


On 2/14/08 9:00 PM, "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow at comcast.net> wrote:

> That works. Here's another way.
> 
> I just put a dab of silicone sealant on my fingertip and stuck the nut and
> lockwasher in it. Then I pressed my fingertip up against the hole and
> screwed the postie (that's the technical term for it) into it. Worked like
> Loktite.
> 
> BTW, you'll usually hear them referred to as "posties" and "twisties." I
> have no idea what the real names are.  ;-)
> 
> Gordon Glasgow
> Renton, WA
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Oliver
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:01 PM
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] snaplets
> 
> 
> not sure what they are called - the things that the convertible top or
> tonneau snaps onto.
> 
> anyway, i'm no expert or big mechanic, but last weekend i had to put those
> in.  three out of four on each side are easy, but that fourth one caused me
> to stop and think.  this is my own little way of solving that problem.
> 
> i've documented the process on my website (www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun)
> if you click on the update link in beginning it will jump right to it.
> 
> here are the direct links.  i hope it helps at least one other person!
> 
> http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun/DSCN2234.JPG
> 
> http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun/DSCN2234.JPG
> 
> http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun/DSCN2227.JPG
> 
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From lonestar311 at gmail.com  Fri Feb 15 09:34:44 2008
From: lonestar311 at gmail.com (Conley)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:34:44 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Rain-X
In-Reply-To: <002301c86fc6$671a8c60$354fa520$@net>
References: <021420081916.2860.47B49392000096D900000B2C2213528573979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net>,
	<000a01c86fa3$684a6ec0$0b3fcf18@Daryl>,
	<002301c86fc6$671a8c60$354fa520$@net>
Message-ID: <47B54EA4.19631.F68D3C1@lonestar311.gmail.com>

I've been using Rain-X for years. I've found I can run at freeway 
speeds, at night, in the rain with no wipers and the view is great. My 
only complaints with Rain-X are the pain of application (polishing) 
and how quickly it loses its effectiveness when you follow an oil-
burner for a couple of miles. That includes 18 wheelers. 

STP had a somewhat similar product a few years ago. It was much 
easier to apply, but it cost a small fortune. Good news? It didn't mind 
oil-burners. Bad news? I can't find it anymore. 

-- lonestar

--
Conley Phillips
Cottage Grove, OR
SPL311-08636

From reblues at reblues.net  Fri Feb 15 09:40:12 2008
From: reblues at reblues.net (Richard Brown)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:40:12 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 2008 Mitty
Message-ID: <01e001c86ff1$6f7529d0$6801a8c0@ACER4230>

Here is a link to info on the 2008 Mitty at Road Atlanta.

http://www.atl-scca.org/Documents%20Adobe/2008/Mitty%2008_spectator_packet.pd
f

Plenty of time to make plans. Get the roadster running or polished and come
out for the fun.

Richard Brown

From datsit at hotmail.com  Fri Feb 15 09:50:51 2008
From: datsit at hotmail.com (Mike jennings)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:50:51 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun rockers & door posts
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1740.1203075138.1200.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.1740.1203075138.1200.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <BLU115-W75C35C4ABDB19C025C1EDD0260@phx.gbl>

Willy Darosa has a set R/L of  complete NEW inner/outer rockers with
door post & kick panels sitting in his shop, you can tell him I
sent you the INFO.  Phone # 519-648-2082, fax 519-648-2815.

Mike Jennings

***********************************************

From aultgc at att.net  Fri Feb 15 10:41:59 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:41:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster article in this months Hemmimgs
Message-ID: <878360.99024.qm@web83812.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Back issues of "Sports and Exotic Car" are available from Hemmings for about $7.00, postage paid.  It's a good deal.  GO to www.hemminhs.com, and go to "Hemmings Store", "Back Issues".  Then scroll down until youu find the issue of the publication you want.  I'm pretty sure I recall they take credit cards over the 'net, so the purchase is hassle-free.

Gary


----- Original Message ----
From: "RHCsports at aol.com" <RHCsports at aol.com>
To: roadster at astound.net; rlabate at sbcglobal.net
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:54:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster article in this months Hemmimgs

Thanks Fred,

I hope all owners of boxed Roadsters will eventually get to drive them to  
know the thrill the rest of us get. 
In all fairness, one of mine also is in pieces. I just ran out of  boxes!

And for those of you who can't find the Magazine, I will post the article  
(or someone will) I am just waiting a few weeks to allow Hemmings to sell a few  
more magazines ( I support copyright ).

Ron





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From aultgc at att.net  Fri Feb 15 10:49:49 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:49:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] body parts needed
Message-ID: <51867.62319.qm@web83814.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I thought at least one of the suppliers (Les Canaday at Classic Datsun or Ross Mullen at Sports Imports?) offers replacement, reproduction sheet metal for the sills or rockers.  For those without a press brake or the skills to use same (such as me).  Either of these guys, or Mike Kerr at Roadster Restoration, may have a line on used sheet metal.

Gary


----- Original Message ----
From: Graeme <graemes at internode.on.net>
To: Daniel Solomon <d-solomon at comcast.net>; Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 4:41:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] body parts needed

Ewwwwwwrrrrr!
I thought MY Roadster was the worst example of THAT!
On a positive note, I have been able to repair the base of my "A" pillars,
which were worse than yours, so I'm sure you can too.
I also intend to replace the ENTIRE sill or rocker as you call it on BOTH
sides.
The shape is relatively simple to re-produce, I hope to be able to do it
myself with my modest sheet metal brake.
I wouldn't have thought that either of these panels were different to HI/LO
windshield cars?? 
If it will help, I can send you a template of the sill panel profile so you
can have a replacement folded up.
For a dose of Deja Vu see: -
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7d729b3127ccebb41319345ac00000066100Aa
uGjFq2bt2KA
and
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7d729b3127ccebb41f01505d200000056100Aa
uGjFq2bt2KA
"Hey all:
I thought I had arranged for the parts I needed, but I've just found out
that the ones I was about to purchase are actually NOT for a
low-windshield...
Does anyone have a low-windshield body that they are cutting up (or wouldn't
MIND cutting up)?  What I'm looking for is the Door Hinge Posts (or 'jamb')
and / or the rocker panel.  Or even a SECTION of a rocker panel,  so that I
can use it to fab my own."

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From d-solomon at comcast.net  Fri Feb 15 11:15:07 2008
From: d-solomon at comcast.net (d-solomon at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:15:07 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Body Parts
Message-ID: <021520081815.3763.47B5D6AB00080B2100000EB322007507440201030104019CD30B@comcast.net>

Thanks to all who have replied about the body parts I need.

I am exploring a few of the leads Y'all mentioned, and I 'think' I have replied to each of you off-list.  Thank you all for your help.  If anything else comes-up, please continue to keep me informed.  

I'll let y'all know if I strike a deal of any sort with someone, so that you can "call-off-the-dogs" as it were.  :-)

Thanks

Dan

From stebharvey at ameritech.net  Fri Feb 15 12:37:36 2008
From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (steb)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:37:36 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Rain-X
In-Reply-To: <002301c86fc6$671a8c60$354fa520$@net>
Message-ID: <000001c8700a$4000b070$0574fea9@steb1>

I was on that rain soaked trip with Paul. I also had used Rain-X prior
to starting the trip and was very glad I had. My roadster on the other
hand did not have a good seal at the front of the soft top. My wife and
I still talk about and laugh at the fact that she was stuffing Kleenex
between the top and windshield to try and slow down the fire hydrant
stream of water. When a piece of Kleenex could no longer hold back the
water, it would shoot out towards us and hit us in the face. Great
times!  It was a great party as well!

Steve Harvey
(owner of an original bra)

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+stebharvey=ameritech.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+stebharvey=ameritech.net at autox.team.net
] On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 5:32 AM
To: 'Daryl Smith'; racery at comcast.net; 'roadster list'
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rain-X

  I use Rain-X on my 1600.  I got stuck leading a roadster group at
MidOhio
Vintage down to the Saturday night party at Mitch's one year.  Hit a
thunderstorm that dropped 2" of rain in less than 30 minutes.  The water
was
so heavy on the free way I was hopping back and forth in the ruts left
by
the truck in front of me; just like driving in deep snow.  Never turned
on
the wipers, Rain-X worked just fine.  Better yet, the hardtop never
leaked a
drop.  The odd part was when we got to Mitch's, a mere 30 miles down the
road, it was dry and never did rain a drop?

Paul
Ohio
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Feb 15 13:09:38 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:09:38 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] wiper recomission suggestions
Message-ID: <021520082009.5437.47B5F1820002CBE40000153D2200750744CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

IMHO, the wiper pivots come under the "what were they thinking?" category. Dissimilar metals, very little space for lubrication, no mention of it as a maintenance item (at least I don't think so), itty-bitty fragile threads, and 99-percent to bugger up when you try to dissemble 'em.

Surprised the pivots haven't been repro'd yet.

Pete "Hey! It's Datsuns, pizza and beer night"

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "dave" <daveandlindab at comcast.net>
> I checked mine, they worked SLOWLY, so I didn't think about them again until
> a downpour on the way out of The Glen.  The started slow, and gradually got
> better and better, but it was a bit stressful in a downpour hoping they
> would keep working.  I guess the old dried up grease finally melted and
> started working. The amazing part is I was using a couple of tightly rolled
> up blue paper shop towels as a top-to-windshield weatherstrip, never put the
> new seal on after replacinf the top.  It didn't leak a drop in a 4 hour
> drive in heavy rain.
> 
> I agree with the suggestion to isolate the mechancal and electrical sections
> and check them.  I would guess one or both of the pivots are stuck.
> Whatever solvents, peneetrating oil, explosives etc used to get them free, I
> would make sure there is a way to get a good "sticky" lube in there after it
> is all cleaned out so it stays lubed and won't wash or run out over time.  I
> would guess they were greased from the factory, so there is probably a brass
> bushing in there..
> 
> Good luck
> Dave
> -
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fergus OFarrell" <fergus06 at socal.rr.com>
> 
> >
> >
> > Any suggestions as to where to start? ......
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From escanlon at wa-net.com  Fri Feb 15 14:38:37 2008
From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:38:37 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Rain-X - Anti-Fog version
References: <021420081916.2860.47B49392000096D900000B2C2213528573979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <004101c8701b$200ab660$0300a8c0@HPW>

Sorry, but in my experience the Anti-Fog Rain-X NEVER de-fogs from initial 
or subsequent applications.  It actually rendered a new windshield into a 
GLARE producer.  You simply could not drive towards the sun or headlights 
without the whole windshield turning into bathroom shower stall glass. (OK 
so I'm exagerating a bit, but it would be very difficult to see through.)

I tried to remove it with various "Glass Strippers" to no avail.  Then tried 
Lacquer Thinner, Acetone and even MEK and didn't faze it.  Finally a rock 
chip cracked the windshield and I got a new windshield.

Exterior Rain-X....YOU BET!

Anti-Fog Rain-X....not for a million dollars.  I'd rather use mud.

2"
E

> The fog-x on the inside works pretty well, too...
>
> Toby

From slowboy at cox.net  Fri Feb 15 14:38:58 2008
From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:38:58 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] wiper recomission suggestions
References: <021520082009.5437.47B5F1820002CBE40000153D2200750744CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <001801c8701b$2c55d670$8b01a8c0@m7170n>

Bugger up is not even close to what rolled out of my mouth when I got mine 
apart!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] wiper recomission suggestions


> IMHO, the wiper pivots come under the "what were they thinking?" category. 
> Dissimilar metals, very little space for lubrication, no mention of it as 
> a maintenance item (at least I don't think so), itty-bitty fragile 
> threads, and 99-percent to bugger up when you try to dissemble 'em.

From roadster68 at shaw.ca  Fri Feb 15 15:30:46 2008
From: roadster68 at shaw.ca (Larry Dziuba)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:30:46 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster article in this months Hemmimgs
References: <356321.88130.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<5FB516DF-6ED7-4B9D-9525-EF79C1B2CF8A@astound.net>
Message-ID: <000701c87022$68ba06c0$6401a8c0@useravjfzd6udp>

Hey, an even four sounds nice!  Larry.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred Katz" <roadster at astound.net>
To: "Ritchie Labate" <rlabate at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: "Datsun Roadster blog" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster article in this months Hemmimgs


> Finally got around to reading about Ron Eastman's daily driver, thanks  
> for the note about this nice roadster article. (Hemmings Sports &  
> Exotic Cars - March 2008.) Kudos to him for fixing up a busted old  
> project.

From rekeen at mtu.edu  Fri Feb 15 16:27:29 2008
From: rekeen at mtu.edu (Robert Keen)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:27:29 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Followup on OT: Vintage car ID?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0802101004040.9157@bios6.bio.mtu.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0802101004040.9157@bios6.bio.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0802151819471.6918@bios6.bio.mtu.edu>

I'm grateful to all on the list who responded to
a request for help with the old Packard in the photo:

<http://www.portup.com/~kakeen/boxes/car.jpg>

A technical expert in the Packard Car Club identified
it as a 1930 Packard Standard 8; either a Model 726
or 733 Sedan.

Without your assistance I would not have found assorted
web sites of expertise, nor so many cool photos for
comparison.

Thanks again.

--Bob Keen
68 1600 (still in a snowed-in garage.)
Upper Peninsula, Michigan
=======================================
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008, Robert Keen wrote:

> I have a photo with a front-end view of a car from
> the 1920-30s, and I need help with the car ID. (I
> know who the guy is.)
>
> <http://www.portup.com/~kakeen/boxes/car.jpg>
>
> It looks sort of like a 1930 Packard, but there are
> some differences from web images I've been able to find.
>
> This datsun list is my principal conduit to the automotive
> web world, and I know you all have a wide range of experience
> and expertise, so I thought to check here first. Any help or
> clues will be appreciated.
>
> --Bob Keen
> Upper Peninsula, Michigan
> 68 1600 (tucked in for a LONG winter's nap)

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Feb 15 16:57:53 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:57:53 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] wiper recomission suggestions
Message-ID: <021520082357.29103.47B627010004270B000071AF2206999735CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Well, Jim, in spite of the occasional outbursts, this -IS- a family list. <g>

Besides, y'alls knew what I meant.

Pete "Hey! It's Datsuns, pizza and beer Friday."

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "SlowBoy" <slowboy at cox.net>
> Bugger up is not even close to what rolled out of my mouth when I got mine 
> apart!
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] wiper recomission suggestions
> 
> 
> > IMHO, the wiper pivots come under the "what were they thinking?" category. 
> > Dissimilar metals, very little space for lubrication, no mention of it as 
> > a maintenance item (at least I don't think so), itty-bitty fragile 
> > threads, and 99-percent to bugger up when you try to dissemble 'em.
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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Fri Feb 15 18:49:48 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:49:48 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Wiper results: Success!
In-Reply-To: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D61355F@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
Message-ID: <000001c8703e$39794030$6700a8c0@chrissy>

Cool.  I bet with some use, hopefully NOT on the IronBottom, the wiper speed
will increase.  I dis-assembled two parts cars, both horrible rusted hulks,
one, referred to as the Swamp Beast looked like it was stored in a pond.
Wiper assemblies in both were pristine.  And of course, the hood scoop
chrome trim was perfect.

Dave Brisco
ECR

-----Original Message-----
From: O'Farrell, Fergus [mailto:Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com]
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 8:39 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Wiper results: Success!


Well, some very good advice all around.
In an attempt to isolate the mechanical/electrical systems, I removed both
seats and the steering wheel (50% of every project is "access"), and found
thet years ago when I removed the headlite switch for cleaning, (by reaching
around) I must have shoved the dash wiring
harness upward, so that it "caught the wiper arm.   also it looked like
the PO should have routed the wiring harness UNDER the idle adjust cable,
not OVER. So, once I wire-tied it down solid, I tried for 30-60 minutes to
pull the snap ring on the wiper driver arm.  I have snap ring pliers, but
this ring has no holes in it, and no undercut on the backside to wedge a
screwdriver tip in. At that point I stopped and started on the electrical
checkout, and realized that during my tailite/blinker/fusebox fiasco, I had
been driving at nite and had the fuse blow and had run out of fuses, so
stole one from the next available 10A location, the WIPERS! Replaced it and
they now work.  Low speed and hi-speed are the same speed, with the motor
just singing about 4 notes higher.  I lubed the pivots with Dry Lube, and
they are free (and my armpits smell like CRC 336!).

Thanks for the replies and helpful suggestions from all.

Most curious thing.  My PO left this car out in the rain in Pasadena
regularly, (it was the "shop truck" at a Z restorer) so portions of the
underdash have some surface, and various parts taken off (center
console) have been much worse.  But, the wiper motor and linkage look like
they were cad-plated within the last month.  Most peculiar mama!

Seats re-webbed, wipers operational, Iron Bottom readiness achievable. (with
the new category details at Solvang, I thought I was going to have to enter
the SuperModified category, once everyone heard my wipers didn't work I was
technically "not street legal" !)

Thanks again,  Fergus O, 69 2000, HB, CA

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Fri Feb 15 19:17:23 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:17:23 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb parts hunt, 2000 SU
Message-ID: <c0c.2b9a0bdf.34e7a1b3@aol.com>

Hello all,
 
    I'm working on getting more 2L SU carbs done and  have run into a bit of 
a problem. There are several bits that are commonly  missing. I've managed to 
reproduce several different ones but there is one that  I'd like to see if I 
can find before trying to make my own. It is the bar that  goes between the two 
carbs that works the throttles. If anyone has any of these  or entire 2L 
carbs or manifolds that are fairly complete or even just stray odd  bits I would 
love to hear from you. 
 
keith "the slow carb guy" williams
 
Also, anyone interested in a set of Delarto's, manifold and linkage for a  
2000? One of the guys is removing them to install a set of SUs. 
 
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From roadster at astound.net  Sat Feb 16 00:52:55 2008
From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:52:55 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster article in this months Hemmimgs
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	<5FB516DF-6ED7-4B9D-9525-EF79C1B2CF8A@astound.net>
	<000701c87022$68ba06c0$6401a8c0@useravjfzd6udp>
Message-ID: <2B22B4A1-D78B-4317-9247-E960AFB97D7D@astound.net>

When  I said I have 3-1/2 roadsters, I meant exactly that. I have the  
back half of a roadster. The front half was accident damaged and body- 
rotted so I cut away the front and tossed it out. I was hoping to  
someday create a trailer out of the back half (half-frame and half- 
body). But it might become a planter box instead.

Fred Katz - So.SF, CA
3-1/2 roadsters (one of them a whole roadster but in pieces)

On Feb 15, 2008, at 2:30 PM, Larry Dziuba wrote:

> Hey, an even four sounds nice!  Larry.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Katz" <roadster at astound.net>
> To: "Ritchie Labate" <rlabate at sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: "Datsun Roadster blog" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster article in this months Hemmimgs
>
>
>> Finally got around to reading about Ron Eastman's daily driver,  
>> thanks  for the note about this nice roadster article. (Hemmings  
>> Sports &  Exotic Cars - March 2008.) Kudos to him for fixing up a  
>> busted old  project.

From tputland at charter.net  Sat Feb 16 16:12:21 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 15:12:21 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] SRL311-07574
Message-ID: <20080216181222.IPGX0.312414.root@fepweb04>

Any one have any interest in this car (or VIN) before it becomes a part car?


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Sat Feb 16 16:13:15 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 18:13:15 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] Carb parts hunt, 2000 SU
Message-ID: <c80.20962c0d.34e8c80b@aol.com>

Hello all,
 
    Is this list great or what? I've been covered up  with replies. Working 
on geting them all sorted. Looks like I've found all I  need for now. If you 
have sent me a reply and don't hear back within a couple  days then ping me 
again. 
 
thanks to all,
 
keith
 
 
 
In a message dated 2/15/2008 6:17:59 PM Pacific Standard Time,  
Keith0alan at aol.com writes:

Hello  all,

I'm working on getting more 2L SU carbs done  and  have run into a bit of 
a problem. There are several bits that  are commonly  missing. I've managed 
to 
reproduce several different  ones but there is one that  I'd like to see if I 
can find before  trying to make my own. It is the bar that  goes between the 
two 
carbs  that works the throttles. If anyone has any of these  or entire 2L  
carbs or manifolds that are fairly complete or even just stray odd   bits I 
would 
love to hear from you. 

keith "the slow carb guy"  williams

Also, anyone interested in a set of Delarto's, manifold and  linkage for a  
2000? One of the guys is removing them to install a  set of SUs. 

kw








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From slowboy at cox.net  Sat Feb 16 18:20:37 2008
From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 18:20:37 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Service Manuals
Message-ID: <000601c87103$4d96ace0$8b01a8c0@m7170n>

It is my guess that some part numbers or pub numbers may be different for the
same item if the item has a minor change to it.
IE., one being spiral bound with paper cover and the other being metal pin
bound vynil cover.

This SP/L 310 service manual
http://www.311s.org/Manuals/1964%20Datsun/SPL31064.pdf has 64 in its file
name. I am guessing it is for 1964 but I do not know for sure. This manual is
spiral bound and has the P/N 99999-20006 on it.

Is the above (P/N 99999-20006) the same manual as SP(L)310 Service Manual 1963
- Pub. No. 43111(804307) just having different publication numbers?

Thank you!

Jim

From alvingogi at hotmail.com  Sun Feb 17 10:41:08 2008
From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:41:08 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008 camping sites?
In-Reply-To: <000701c86c80$dce862d0$0349fea9@Torres>
References: <000701c86c80$dce862d0$0349fea9@Torres>
Message-ID: <BLU106-W4006598BD82D025AD1FC2AB5200@phx.gbl>

All,
Can anyone recommend a good camping site near Solvang?Alvin GogineniSan Jose,
CA67.5 SPL/SR20> From: jtorres67 at sbcglobal.net> To:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 23:36:48 -0800>
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008 Registration Update Part 2> > Ok Listers
better yet,> > Attached is a PDF file format of the 2008 Solvang Datsun
Roadster Classic. If> you need more info on the event see our web page at
WWW.SOLVANGSHOW.COM.> > Again, if your having difficulty printing from the web
site, this PDF file> should work much better.> > Get those registrations in
early!!!> > Thanks a lot!> > Jeff T.> > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of
type application/pdf which had a name of solvang registration 1.pdf]>
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Sun Feb 17 11:08:27 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:08:27 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008 camping sites?
Message-ID: <8CA3FA73A6E3927-860-F4D@webmail-nf03.sim.aol.com>

Alivin,
A great place is Lake Cachuma County Park. I have camped there and it 
is really cool. It has a little store, a marina, boat rental, showers 
and the lake is great for fishing. You can not swim in it though as it 
is a reservoir.I think there could be a place to wash a car too. I will 
likely be there if I stay over for Solvang instead of coming up for the 
day. I had been thinking about doing a group campsite if there was some 
interest.
It is a few miles outside of town and the run from Santa Barbara up 
thru the San Marcos pass (spectacular) goes right by it.
Here is a link: http://www.sbparks.org/DOCS/Cachuma.html

Linda


-----Original Message-----
From: alvin gogineni
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 9:41 am
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008 camping sites?

All,
Can anyone recommend a good camping site near Solvang?Alvin GogineniSan 
Jose,
CA67.5 SPL/SR20> From: jtorres67 at sbcglobal.net> To:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 23:36:48 -0800>
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008 Registration Update Part 2> > Ok 
Listers
better yet,> > Attached is a PDF file format of the 2008 Solvang Datsun
Roadster Classic. If> you need more info on the event see our web page 
at
WWW.SOLVANGSHOW.COM.> > Again, if your having difficulty printing from 
the web
site, this PDF file> should work much better.> > Get those 
registrations in
early!!!> > Thanks a lot!> > Jeff T.> > [demime 1.01d removed an 
attachment of
type application/pdf which had a name of solvang registration 1.pdf]>

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From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net  Sun Feb 17 12:15:08 2008
From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:15:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang Camp sites
Message-ID: <649171.65447.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

All Roadster guys/gals,
   
      It's not your best site for tent camping because they cater more to RV'ers but there's Flying Flags RV park right across the street from the old garage where we meet on fri/afternoon. I have stayed there on numerous occasions and have had datsun neighbors. They have all the amenities, hottub,showers,store,and pool. We usually do 2 nites and head back on sunday.

From ntrlclr at earthlink.net  Sun Feb 17 14:25:56 2008
From: ntrlclr at earthlink.net (Pamela)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:25:56 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008 camping sites?
Message-ID: <8175904.1203283556083.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

The PDF file for the form was stripped from the email.

Can somebody please send the registration directly to me?

Thank you

Pam Bauman

-----Original Message-----
>From: alvin gogineni <alvingogi at hotmail.com>
>Sent: Feb 17, 2008 9:41 AM
>To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008 camping sites?
>
>All,
>Can anyone recommend a good camping site near Solvang?Alvin GogineniSan Jose,
>CA67.5 SPL/SR20> From: jtorres67 at sbcglobal.net> To:
>datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 23:36:48 -0800>
>Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008 Registration Update Part 2> > Ok Listers
>better yet,> > Attached is a PDF file format of the 2008 Solvang Datsun
>Roadster Classic. If> you need more info on the event see our web page at
>WWW.SOLVANGSHOW.COM.> > Again, if your having difficulty printing from the web
>site, this PDF file> should work much better.> > Get those registrations in
>early!!!> > Thanks a lot!> > Jeff T.> > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of
>type application/pdf which had a name of solvang registration 1.pdf]>
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From ntrlclr at earthlink.net  Sun Feb 17 14:33:29 2008
From: ntrlclr at earthlink.net (Pamela)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:33:29 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [Roadsters] 2008 Solvang Show Registration PDF
Message-ID: <9282219.1203284009420.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

The PDF registration for was stripped from the email.

I went to the site and try as I might the form listed there would not print properly on one page.

Can some one please send a pdf form to me please?

Thank you

Pam Bauman 

(and yes my car is still in pieces)

From ntrlclr at earthlink.net  Sun Feb 17 18:49:33 2008
From: ntrlclr at earthlink.net (Pamela)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:49:33 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [Roadsters] 2008 Solvang Show Registration PDF
Message-ID: <3254023.1203299373569.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Thanks to both Stan and Christy for the form. 

See you all there!

From garytew at cox.net  Sun Feb 17 19:49:51 2008
From: garytew at cox.net (Gary Tew)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:49:51 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] volvo brake conversion
Message-ID: <47B8F24F.20006@cox.net>

I've been driving the Roadster, trying to dial in the fuel tables on the 
EFI.   There have been a few issues but that's to be expected on a 
project like this.   One I'm trying to resolve is the front brakes.    
The Volvo calipers are heating up and locking the brakes after  a short 
(15min or so) drive.  After the brakes cool, the wheels turn freely 
again but when they are hot, I can't push the car.   Any ideas on this.  
I'm using Dean's dual master cylinder setup.  I've thought about  buying 
new pads and seeing if I can get them machined down slightly to 
compensate for the expansion.  Don't know if that's possible yet.  
Anyone experienced this trouble before?

Gary Tew
Peoria, AZ
67 1600 VG30E
www.members.cox.net/garytew

From graemes at internode.on.net  Sun Feb 17 20:38:25 2008
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:08:25 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] volvo brake conversion
In-Reply-To: <47B8F24F.20006@cox.net>
References: <47B8F24F.20006@cox.net>
Message-ID: <000001c871df$b82dbcb0$426fa8c0@desktop>

Hi Gary T,
Just make sure that you are operating the disc brakes from the FRONT circuit
on the master cylinder.
On a disc/drum combination type M/C, the FRONT circuit is the only one
intended for disc brakes.
If the hydraulic circuits on the M/C are reversed, then the Residual
Pressure Valve for the rear drums will be retaining pressure in the front
callipers instead!! 
Not desireable!

"One I'm trying to resolve is the front brakes.    
The Volvo calipers are heating up and locking the brakes after  a short
(15min or so) drive.  After the brakes cool, the wheels turn freely 
again but when they are hot, I can't push the car.   Any ideas on this.  
I'm using Dean's dual master cylinder setup.  I've thought about  buying new
pads and seeing if I can get them machined down slightly to compensate for
the expansion.  Don't know if that's possible yet.  
Anyone experienced this trouble before?
Gary Tew
Peoria, AZ
67 1600 VG30E"

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From jover4x4 at aol.com  Sun Feb 17 21:02:13 2008
From: jover4x4 at aol.com (jover4x4 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:02:13 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] volvo brake conversion
In-Reply-To: <000001c871df$b82dbcb0$426fa8c0@desktop>
References: <000001c871df$b82dbcb0$426fa8c0@desktop>
Message-ID: <8CA3FFA2D7BDB67-904-1F62@webmail-nc10.sysops.aol.com>

Gary,


?


Also check that the rotors are not growing due to thermal expansion and?binding on?the inside of the caliper.? IIRC the rotor needs turned down about .100" or so from the factory diameter.? ( I think you would hear this if that was the case?but its something to check)


?


John Over










-----Original Message-----

From: Graeme 

To: 'Gary Tew' ; 'datsun list datsun' 

Sent: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 8:38 pm

Subject: Re: [Roadsters] volvo brake conversion





Hi Gary T,  Just make sure that you are operating the disc brakes from the FRONT circuit  on the master cylinder.  On a disc/drum combination type M/C, the FRONT circuit is the only one  intended for disc brakes.  If the hydraulic circuits on the M/C are reversed, then the Residual  Pressure Valve for the rear drums will be retaining pressure in the front  callipers instead!!   Not desireable!    "One I'm trying to resolve is the front brakes.      The Volvo calipers are heating up and locking the brakes after  a short  (15min or so) drive.  After the brakes cool, the wheels turn freely   again but when they are hot, I can't push the car.   Any ideas on this.    I'm using Dean's dual master cylinder setup.  I've thought about  buying new  pads and seeing if I can get them machined down slightly to compensate for  the expansion.  Don't know if that's possible yet.    Anyone experienced this trouble before?  Gary Tew  Peoria, AZ  67 1600 VG30E"    No virus found in this outgoing message.  Checked by AVG Free Edition.   Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1283 - Release Date: 16/02/2008  2:16 PM  


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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Sun Feb 17 21:10:55 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:10:55 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] volvo brake conversion
Message-ID: <bd1.28eb8256.34ea5f4f@aol.com>

In a message dated 2/17/2008 6:50:27 PM Pacific Standard Time,  
garytew at cox.net writes:

I've  been driving the Roadster, trying to dial in the fuel tables on the  
EFI.   There have been a few issues but that's to be expected on  a 
project like this.   One I'm trying to resolve is the front  brakes.    
The Volvo calipers are heating up and locking the  brakes after  a short 
(15min or so) drive.  After the brakes  cool, the wheels turn freely 
again but when they are hot, I can't push the  car.   Any ideas on this.  
I'm using Dean's dual master  cylinder setup.  I've thought about  buying 
new pads and seeing  if I can get them machined down slightly to 
compensate for the  expansion.  Don't know if that's possible yet.  
Anyone  experienced this trouble before?

Gary Tew
Peoria, AZ
67 1600  VG30E
www.members.cox.net/garytew



Also make sure the master cylinder is being released all the way. If the  
piston is depressed a little one of the ports gets covered and the fluid will  
not bleed back to the resivoir. As the brake fluid heats up it expands. Having  
no where to go it applies the brakes. 
 
keith



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From msedlack at neo.rr.com  Sun Feb 17 22:04:45 2008
From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 00:04:45 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] volvo brake conversion
References: <47B8F24F.20006@cox.net>
Message-ID: <002401c871eb$c7967a00$6601a8c0@p53ghzduo>

Gary,
The points brought up by Graeme, John and Keith are all definitely things to 
check.  In particular, make sure the pedal push rod has just a touch of free 
play with the pedal pulled out against the stop.  A little while back I 
helped out another lister, who was experiencing the same issue, and found it 
to be the thickness of the pushrod stop ring/washer holding the pushrod just 
a touch too far inside the cylinder, blocking the bleed-back port, and 
holding the caliper pistons out.

Without the pedal connected, the pushrod should be free to flop around a 
little - it should be the stop screw in the bottom of the cylinder that the 
piston stops against.
Mark


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Tew" <garytew at cox.net>
To: "datsun list datsun" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 9:49 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] volvo brake conversion


> I've been driving the Roadster, trying to dial in the fuel tables on the
> EFI.   There have been a few issues but that's to be expected on a
> project like this.   One I'm trying to resolve is the front brakes.
> The Volvo calipers are heating up and locking the brakes after  a short
> (15min or so) drive.  After the brakes cool, the wheels turn freely
> again but when they are hot, I can't push the car.   Any ideas on this.
> I'm using Dean's dual master cylinder setup.  I've thought about  buying
> new pads and seeing if I can get them machined down slightly to
> compensate for the expansion.  Don't know if that's possible yet.
> Anyone experienced this trouble before?
>
> Gary Tew
> Peoria, AZ
> 67 1600 VG30E
> www.members.cox.net/garytew
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From bubwin at mts.net  Mon Feb 18 00:38:06 2008
From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 01:38:06 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] volvo brake conversion
In-Reply-To: <000001c871df$b82dbcb0$426fa8c0@desktop>
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Close, but you have the lines mixed up.  The rear reservoir (larger one) on 
the master cylinder feeds the front brakes, and the front (smaller)reservoir 
feeds the rear brakes.  Make sure the brake pedal push rod is allowing the 
piston in the master cylinder to fully return (free play).

Bob Winslade
1966-1600 Missy
1967-1600 Bender

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Graeme" <graemes at internode.on.net>
To: "'Gary Tew'" <garytew at cox.net>; "'datsun list datsun'" 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] volvo brake conversion


> Hi Gary T,
> Just make sure that you are operating the disc brakes from the FRONT 
> circuit
> on the master cylinder.
> On a disc/drum combination type M/C, the FRONT circuit is the only one
> intended for disc brakes.
> If the hydraulic circuits on the M/C are reversed, then the Residual
> Pressure Valve for the rear drums will be retaining pressure in the front
> callipers instead!!
> Not desireable!
>
> "One I'm trying to resolve is the front brakes.
> The Volvo calipers are heating up and locking the brakes after  a short
> (15min or so) drive.  After the brakes cool, the wheels turn freely
> again but when they are hot, I can't push the car.   Any ideas on this.
> I'm using Dean's dual master cylinder setup.  I've thought about  buying 
> new
> pads and seeing if I can get them machined down slightly to compensate for
> the expansion.  Don't know if that's possible yet.
> Anyone experienced this trouble before?
> Gary Tew
> Peoria, AZ
> 67 1600 VG30E"
>
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From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 18 10:12:19 2008
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:12:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch Question
Message-ID: <401551.49352.qm@web51110.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I just got my 2000 1969 back together after a complete engine and trans rebuild. 2 years, a bit of procrastinating and weather. 
   
  Today is is warm here in NJ, so I decided to do some final stuff. I started her up, balanced the carbs, setthe timing and then went to bleed the clutch. 
   
  The pedal would not move, and won't unless I push VERY hard. It moved fine 3 weeks ago, and since it was low, I added fluid. DOT4.
   
  Did I use the wrong fluid?
   
  Do I need to rebuild the cylinder? I didn'ttouch the master of slave in this rebuild.
   
  Thanks in advance.
   
  Jim Gammon
  New Jersey

From mikef at carolina.rr.com  Mon Feb 18 12:58:00 2008
From: mikef at carolina.rr.com (Mike Faggart)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:58:00 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Mitty contacts, 2L heat shields and Oregon  favor
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Message-ID: <018901c87268$90ab4d90$0200a8c0@reginacb41e884>

Keith, since you are coming back to the Mitty?  I will be driving my 
roadster this year, can or will you look at my carbs?  still running rich, 
the carbs, not me!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Keith0alan at aol.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 10:53 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Mitty contacts, 2L heat shields and Oregon favor


> Hello all,
>
>    Found a couple of folks to help out with my Mitty  camera logistics,
> thanks again.
>
>    I have finally gotten around to fabricating some  2000 SU heat shields.
> While they are not perfect copies, they do look pretty  good. Mostly I am
> making them to replace missing ones on my refurbs but if  anyone is 
> interested I
> can send pictures when they get back from being plated.
>
>    Now for the other little non roadster problem. I'm  working on 
> restoring
> an old crawler tractor. Mine is missing the seat. Good news  is that I 
> have
> found one. Bad news is that it is in Oregon. It is about a 3 foot  cube if
> boxed. If shipping ends up being totally out of line, is there someone 
> coming to
> Shasta with a truck/trailer who would have room for it? I will be 
> bringing the
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From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 18 13:34:01 2008
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:34:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch Question
In-Reply-To: <362214.21371.qm@web51110.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <68605.253.qm@web51103.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

HHHEEEYYYYYY! Yes!
   
  It was a sticky slave cylinder. I fortunately had a spare (packrat that I am)
   
  I just took her around the block!
   
  The clutch needs adjusting, the brakes are soft, and the idle too high. 
   
  I am higher!!
   
  Little stuff now, like finding the shifter knob, a major cleaning and putting in shorter carb springs (I guessed wrong, it seems. 
   
  Nothing like grinding the crank, reassembling the entire engine, trany etc. A bigger job than I thought at first. I never re-did an entire engine by myself before.
   
  I did all the work myself, except what took a machine shop. The only thing I didn't put in was the jackshaft bearings, the machine shop wanted to line bore them to be sure. 
   
  I thank many of you, members, vendors and advice givers (Craig for the bare engine). My baby is on the way to riding this spring! No show car, but 85% of the way there.
   
  Jim Gammon
  Manasquan
  NJ
   
  JimG

Jim Gammon <gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com> wrote:
    Thanks for the suggestions. I'll remove the slave and check it out. 
   
  Figures, I just took her off the jack stands.....
   
  Jim

Jim Gammon <gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com> wrote:
  I just got my 2000 1969 back together after a complete engine and trans rebuild. 2 years, a bit of procrastinating and weather. 

Today is is warm here in NJ, so I decided to do some final stuff. I started her up, balanced the carbs, setthe timing and then went to bleed the clutch. 

The pedal would not move, and won't unless I push VERY hard. It moved fine 3 weeks ago, and since it was low, I added fluid. DOT4.

Did I use the wrong fluid?

Do I need to rebuild the cylinder? I didn'ttouch the master of slave in this rebuild.

Thanks in advance.

Jim Gammon
New Jersey
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From davesmbox at aol.com  Mon Feb 18 14:58:30 2008
From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:58:30 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Wheel arch
Message-ID: <8CA4090885183B2-17D0-1FE9@Webmail-mg04.sim.aol.com>

Hey List,
I tried Craig and the ushual suspects with no luck.

My 69 1600 has been patched twice over the last 12 years on the passenger side rear wheel arch just past the axle center line down to the rear about 12 inches. It's bubbleing through again so it's time to cut the section out and weld in a better patch.
Any one with a parts car with a non rusted section. Time is money so I know I will need not only to pay for the part but your time to cut it out.
Email me off list if you can help out.

Thanks,
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From graemes at internode.on.net  Mon Feb 18 15:09:19 2008
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:39:19 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] volvo brake conversion
In-Reply-To: <7E3F9CF99EEF4BA09D11D684DB6DE05D@ownerPC>
References: <47B8F24F.20006@cox.net> <000001c871df$b82dbcb0$426fa8c0@desktop>
	<7E3F9CF99EEF4BA09D11D684DB6DE05D@ownerPC>
Message-ID: <000301c8727a$eb336650$426fa8c0@desktop>

Yes, I thought that might happen.
By FRONT I meant the circuit for the FRONT BRAKES i.e. DISC.
It may be physically at the rear of the the M/C but it is still the FRONT
circuit  ;) 

"Close, but you have the lines mixed up.  The rear reservoir (larger one) on
the master cylinder feeds the front brakes, and the front (smaller)reservoir
feeds the rear brakes.  Make sure the brake pedal push rod is allowing the
piston in the master cylinder to fully return (free play).

Bob Winslade
1966-1600 Missy
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From conner_a at comcast.net  Mon Feb 18 15:32:12 2008
From: conner_a at comcast.net (conner_a at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:32:12 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Wheel arch
Message-ID: <021820082232.8612.47BA076C00048149000021A422007510900EA19D0A0202010C@comcast.net>

I have had luck with Wolf Steel for custom patch panels.  If you send him your rusted out original piece he will fabricate a new patch panel and does a good job.  Depending on the size and complexity of the part his price is fairly reasonable.  Located in CT.  

http://www.alfaparts.net/


Andy Conner
SRL 311-01633

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: davesmbox at aol.com 

> Hey List, 
> I tried Craig and the ushual suspects with no luck. 
> 
> My 69 1600 has been patched twice over the last 12 years on the passenger side 
> rear wheel arch just past the axle center line down to the rear about 12 inches. 
> It's bubbleing through again so it's time to cut the section out and weld in a 
> better patch. 
> Any one with a parts car with a non rusted section. Time is money so I know I 
> will need not only to pay for the part but your time to cut it out. 
> Email me off list if you can help out. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> DAVE 
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From d-solomon at comcast.net  Mon Feb 18 15:59:44 2008
From: d-solomon at comcast.net (Daniel Solomon)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:59:44 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] other wheel arch question
In-Reply-To: <021820082232.8612.47BA076C00048149000021A422007510900EA19D0A0202010C@comcast.net>
References: <021820082232.8612.47BA076C00048149000021A422007510900EA19D0A0202010C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <47BA0DE0.6000609@comcast.net>

I started a new thread, so as not to Hijack the original.....

But since we're talking about wheel arches.....

There was some talk on here several months ago about different ways to 
get "flares" on the rear fenders.  Someone (I wish I could rememebr who) 
sent me pics of some who have taken FRONT arches and cut-n-welded them 
onto the rear (offset from center) to get a taller arch and a modest 
'flare'. 

Does that sound familiar to anyone? 

Anyway:  I'm hoping someone on the list may have some front-arch cuts 
that they'd like to get rid of.  And even better if it's someone who 
ALSO had the rocker panel sections I was looking for......  (ship 
once...'eh?)

Thanks in advance.

Dan

conner_a at comcast.net wrote:
> I have had luck with Wolf Steel for custom patch panels.  If you send him your rusted out original piece he will fabricate a new patch panel and does a good job.  Depending on the size and complexity of the part his price is fairly reasonable.  Located in CT.  
>
> http://www.alfaparts.net/
>
>
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>
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: davesmbox at aol.com 
>
>   
>> Hey List, 
>> I tried Craig and the ushual suspects with no luck. 
>>
>> My 69 1600 has been patched twice over the last 12 years on the passenger side 
>> rear wheel arch just past the axle center line down to the rear about 12 inches. 
>> It's bubbleing through again so it's time to cut the section out and weld in a 
>> better patch. 
>> Any one with a parts car with a non rusted section. Time is money so I know I 
>> will need not only to pay for the part but your time to cut it out. 
>> Email me off list if you can help out. 
>>
>> Thanks, 
>> DAVE 
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From rossto at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 18 17:17:19 2008
From: rossto at yahoo.com (Tom Ross)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:17:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 2000 Roadster For Sale
In-Reply-To: <mailman.27.1203361202.4946.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <718794.28656.qm@web51806.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hello List,

I am selling my 1970 2000 Roadster:

Red w/ Black interior
Panasport Wheels with Pirelli tires
CD Player installed in glovebox
Good Top w/ Tonneau cover
No Rust, Paint and Chrome in good condition.

The car was restored (not frame off) by the previous
owner, I have receipts totaling well over $13k of
parts and work he had done. This car is what I would
call a "20 footer"... from 20 feet or more it looks
great, up close there are some things that could be
fixed up. 
Engine and transmission are both running fine.

Car is located in southeastern PA

E-mail me for pictures/details.

Tom Ross


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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Mon Feb 18 20:15:56 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:15:56 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] other wheel arch question
In-Reply-To: <47BA0DE0.6000609@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <PLEKIPKLOPKJCCDNMINGCEAJCIAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>

Sean Kirk from up in B.C. did it.
http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Images/SeanKirk_DavePremo.jpg
http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Images/SeanKirk2000.jpg

Gordon Glasgow
Renton, WA

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Daniel Solomon
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 3:00 PM
To: 'Datsun Roadster List'
Subject: [Roadsters] other wheel arch question


I started a new thread, so as not to Hijack the original.....

But since we're talking about wheel arches.....

There was some talk on here several months ago about different ways to 
get "flares" on the rear fenders.  Someone (I wish I could rememebr who) 
sent me pics of some who have taken FRONT arches and cut-n-welded them 
onto the rear (offset from center) to get a taller arch and a modest 
'flare'. 

Does that sound familiar to anyone? 

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Mon Feb 18 20:58:20 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:58:20 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch Question
In-Reply-To: <401551.49352.qm@web51110.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000501c872ab$ab51d4a0$6700a8c0@chrissy>

Jim, Where in New Jersey?? I'm in Kenilworth, North Jersey.  DOT 4 is
correct if it had DOT 3 or 4 in it.  I don't know what happens if it had
DOT5 and DOT 4 is added. If oil got into it, then what you are describing is
exactly what happens, all the seals swell to almost double size.

 Easy test, if you can push the pedal with the bleeder screw loosened and
fluid comes out, master is working and easy guess is the slave is likley
siezed. Doubt the clutch itself is hung up.  I found a source for
inexpensive slave cylinders if you need, if it's the master I probably have
a spare.

My cell is 908-591-9892, give a call if I can be of any help

Dave Brisco
ECR

-Original Message-----
From: Jim Gammon [mailto:gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 12:12 PM
To: Datsun roadster
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch Question


I just got my 2000 1969 back together after a complete engine and trans
rebuild. 2 years, a bit of procrastinating and weather.

  Today is is warm here in NJ, so I decided to do some final stuff. I
started her up, balanced the carbs, setthe timing and then went to bleed the
clutch.

  The pedal would not move, and won't unless I push VERY hard. It moved fine
3 weeks ago, and since it was low, I added fluid. DOT4.

  Did I use the wrong fluid?

  Do I need to rebuild the cylinder? I didn'ttouch the master of slave in
this rebuild.

  Thanks in advance.

  Jim Gammon
  New Jersey

From d-solomon at comcast.net  Mon Feb 18 21:27:05 2008
From: d-solomon at comcast.net (Daniel Solomon)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:27:05 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch Question
In-Reply-To: <000501c872ab$ab51d4a0$6700a8c0@chrissy>
References: <000501c872ab$ab51d4a0$6700a8c0@chrissy>
Message-ID: <47BA5A99.3070402@comcast.net>

I haven't been following this thread closely, but DOT 4 and DOT 5 is 
something I 'do' know something about, so I'll chime in. 
If you mix DOT4 and DOT5, you get mush.  Mush which expands, and 
swells.  And destroys seals. 
There "is" a DOT 5.3 that can be mixed with the 3 and 4, but not with 
the 5.  I know... very confusing.
I used DOT 5 regularly in my race-bikes.  (higher boiling point was 
available in the DOT5)  Once it was intermixed with DOT4 (by accident) 
at the racetrack.  I spent the next several hours dissassembling the 
entire system and cleaning every seal and flushing every hose and 
orifice with rubbing alcohol (which will make seals dry and shrink).  
Worked well enough for a "racetrack repair", and then I replaced them 
all before the next weekend. 

Dan

dave wrote:
> Jim, Where in New Jersey?? I'm in Kenilworth, North Jersey.  DOT 4 is
> correct if it had DOT 3 or 4 in it.  I don't know what happens if it had
> DOT5 and DOT 4 is added. If oil got into it, then what you are describing is
> exactly what happens, all the seals swell to almost double size.
>
>  Easy test, if you can push the pedal with the bleeder screw loosened and
> fluid comes out, master is working and easy guess is the slave is likley
> siezed. Doubt the clutch itself is hung up.  I found a source for
> inexpensive slave cylinders if you need, if it's the master I probably have
> a spare.
>
> My cell is 908-591-9892, give a call if I can be of any help
>
> Dave Brisco
> ECR
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Jim Gammon [mailto:gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 12:12 PM
> To: Datsun roadster
> Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch Question
>
>
> I just got my 2000 1969 back together after a complete engine and trans
> rebuild. 2 years, a bit of procrastinating and weather.
>
>   Today is is warm here in NJ, so I decided to do some final stuff. I
> started her up, balanced the carbs, setthe timing and then went to bleed the
> clutch.
>
>   The pedal would not move, and won't unless I push VERY hard. It moved fine
> 3 weeks ago, and since it was low, I added fluid. DOT4.
>
>   Did I use the wrong fluid?
>
>   Do I need to rebuild the cylinder? I didn'ttouch the master of slave in
> this rebuild.
>
>   Thanks in advance.
>
>   Jim Gammon
>   New Jersey
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From garytew at cox.net  Mon Feb 18 21:34:56 2008
From: garytew at cox.net (garytew at cox.net)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:34:56 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] soft tops
Message-ID: <20080218233456.M5GZE.109501.root@fed1wml12.mgt.cox.net>

I'm getting to the point of deciding on which soft top to buy.  Has anyone bought recently?  Mention quality, fabric or vinyl, cost, vendor, etc.  I'm thinking most are going to be made from  1 or 2 manufacturers but just wanted to get ideas.

Gary Tew
Peoria, AZ
'67 1600 VG30

From garytew at cox.net  Mon Feb 18 21:40:35 2008
From: garytew at cox.net (garytew at cox.net)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:40:35 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] brake problem status
Message-ID: <20080218234035.0FKI0.109546.root@fed1wml12.mgt.cox.net>

Just wanted to thank those that gave me some great ideas and tips on solving my brake issue.  So far I've checked to make sure front and rear are plumbed correctly (yes), brakes are bled well (yes), check for shims on the MS/firewall (none there), and the cylinder rod has some free play with the pedal released.  I think this last item is correct on my car but I'll pull it tomorrow and grind it down a bit to make sure.  If nothing changes, I'll try another MS and go from there.  Thanks again.

Gary Tew
Peoria, AZ
'67 1600 VG30 

From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 19 08:47:46 2008
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:47:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch Question
In-Reply-To: <47BA5A99.3070402@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <253764.24604.qm@web51108.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Wow, great info. Being as how I have no idea what fluid was in it, I'll flush out my brake system like I did my clutch. The fluid was dark brown. 
   
  I'll get the new DOT 5.3 from now on!
   
  Jim

Daniel Solomon <d-solomon at comcast.net> wrote:
  I haven't been following this thread closely, but DOT 4 and DOT 5 is 
something I 'do' know something about, so I'll chime in. 
If you mix DOT4 and DOT5, you get mush. Mush which expands, and 
swells. And destroys seals. 
There "is" a DOT 5.3 that can be mixed with the 3 and 4, but not with 
the 5. I know... very confusing.
I used DOT 5 regularly in my race-bikes. (higher boiling point was 
available in the DOT5) Once it was intermixed with DOT4 (by accident) 
at the racetrack. I spent the next several hours dissassembling the 
entire system and cleaning every seal and flushing every hose and 
orifice with rubbing alcohol (which will make seals dry and shrink). 
Worked well enough for a "racetrack repair", and then I replaced them 
all before the next weekend. 

Dan

dave wrote:
> Jim, Where in New Jersey?? I'm in Kenilworth, North Jersey. DOT 4 is
> correct if it had DOT 3 or 4 in it. I don't know what happens if it had
> DOT5 and DOT 4 is added. If oil got into it, then what you are describing is
> exactly what happens, all the seals swell to almost double size.
>
> Easy test, if you can push the pedal with the bleeder screw loosened and
> fluid comes out, master is working and easy guess is the slave is likley
> siezed. Doubt the clutch itself is hung up. I found a source for
> inexpensive slave cylinders if you need, if it's the master I probably have
> a spare.
>
> My cell is 908-591-9892, give a call if I can be of any help
>
> Dave Brisco
> ECR
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Jim Gammon [mailto:gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 12:12 PM
> To: Datsun roadster
> Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch Question
>
>
> I just got my 2000 1969 back together after a complete engine and trans
> rebuild. 2 years, a bit of procrastinating and weather.
>
> Today is is warm here in NJ, so I decided to do some final stuff. I
> started her up, balanced the carbs, setthe timing and then went to bleed the
> clutch.
>
> The pedal would not move, and won't unless I push VERY hard. It moved fine
> 3 weeks ago, and since it was low, I added fluid. DOT4.
>
> Did I use the wrong fluid?
>
> Do I need to rebuild the cylinder? I didn'ttouch the master of slave in
> this rebuild.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Jim Gammon
> New Jersey
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From hallosb at juno.com  Tue Feb 19 12:46:06 2008
From: hallosb at juno.com (hallosb at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:46:06 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch Question
Message-ID: <20080219.124606.10338.0@webmail24.vgs.untd.com>

If your clutch fluid is brown, recommend you flush your brake fluid as well.
Brake fluid absorbs moisture and detroys your system.  I flush out both the
brake and clutch fluids on all my vehicles every two years.

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From d-solomon at comcast.net  Tue Feb 19 13:38:47 2008
From: d-solomon at comcast.net (d-solomon at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:38:47 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch Question
Message-ID: <021920082038.21215.47BB3E5700061E44000052DF22073007930201030104019CD30B@comcast.net>

my messages don't seem to be making it to the list today.
this makes 3rd try:

For some reason, the below message never made it through to the list.
and FWIW:  I always use DOT5 in my clutch, whenever I am using DOT5 in my brakes.  I do NOT want to risk a mix-up.....  no, a clutch doesn't need it.... but why worry about 2 different fluids?

(original reply that didn't make it:)
I would 'think' that if you were changing over to DOT5, (or back to DOT4) then the alcohol flush would be sufficient for that.  If you were VERY thorough.
However;  Once you've cross-contaminated the system, silicosis begins (at least i'm told that's what it is.. but i'm not a chemist, or anything like one) and the 2 begin to form a 'gel-like' consistency that is very nasty to try to get rid of.  

While I'm not 100% certain, I 'assumed' that the seals all needed to be replaced.  Brakes are not something I wanted to be any less than 100% certain on.  
I know that rubber seals left in alcohol will dry, shrink and crack.  (WD40 does the opposite, interstingly, making them 'swell')

I know that once I had replaced the seals, the rubber hoses were fine.... but I would be surprised if the seals would come back without some stiction, or cracking, or both.  


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From: "hallosb at juno.com" <hallosb at juno.com> 

> If your clutch fluid is brown, recommend you flush your brake fluid as well. 
> Brake fluid absorbs moisture and detroys your system. I flush out both the 
> brake and clutch fluids on all my vehicles every two years. 
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From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 19 13:41:49 2008
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:41:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch Question
In-Reply-To: <021920082038.21215.47BB3E5700061E44000052DF22073007930201030104019CD30B@comcast.net>
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I'm going to try to just flush with DOT5.1, using the vacuum bleeder I bought. 
   
  I'll use the entire can to flush. I don't know what the PO put in. 
   
  If I have trouble, I'll replace all seals. 
   
  Jim

d-solomon at comcast.net wrote:
  my messages don't seem to be making it to the list today.
this makes 3rd try:

For some reason, the below message never made it through to the list.
and FWIW: I always use DOT5 in my clutch, whenever I am using DOT5 in my brakes. I do NOT want to risk a mix-up..... no, a clutch doesn't need it.... but why worry about 2 different fluids?

(original reply that didn't make it:)
I would 'think' that if you were changing over to DOT5, (or back to DOT4) then the alcohol flush would be sufficient for that. If you were VERY thorough.
However; Once you've cross-contaminated the system, silicosis begins (at least i'm told that's what it is.. but i'm not a chemist, or anything like one) and the 2 begin to form a 'gel-like' consistency that is very nasty to try to get rid of. 

While I'm not 100% certain, I 'assumed' that the seals all needed to be replaced. Brakes are not something I wanted to be any less than 100% certain on. 
I know that rubber seals left in alcohol will dry, shrink and crack. (WD40 does the opposite, interstingly, making them 'swell')

I know that once I had replaced the seals, the rubber hoses were fine.... but I would be surprised if the seals would come back without some stiction, or cracking, or both. 


-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "hallosb at juno.com" 

> If your clutch fluid is brown, recommend you flush your brake fluid as well. 
> Brake fluid absorbs moisture and detroys your system. I flush out both the 
> brake and clutch fluids on all my vehicles every two years. 
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From sandhoff at csus.edu  Tue Feb 19 14:48:00 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:48:00 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] DOT5 (was: Clutch Question)
In-Reply-To: <695136.19417.qm@web51111.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <021920082038.21215.47BB3E5700061E44000052DF22073007930201030104019CD30B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <47BADE10.19800.FBE402@localhost>

Keep in mind that DOT5 has been reported to be harder to get a
clean system bleed with. Power bleeding seems to be more
effective than other methods. Also, DOT5 will find its way thru tiny
seal imperfections so a system that's leak-free on DOT3/4 may end
up leaking on DOT5.

I don't know how DOT 5.1 behaves. It's apparently not silicone based
like 5.

I personally use DOT4 - Castrol GT/LMA for years and years but have
switched to Valvoline synthetic DOT4.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From sandhoff at csus.edu  Tue Feb 19 14:57:13 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:57:13 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] DOT5 followup
In-Reply-To: <695136.19417.qm@web51111.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <021920082038.21215.47BB3E5700061E44000052DF22073007930201030104019CD30B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <47BAE039.28212.10452F1@localhost>

(note to self: Finish web searches BEFORE hitting the SEND button...)

One site I read stated that 5.1 absorbs moisture, and will damage
paint. Two things that straight 5 reportedly does not do.

So is 5.1 just an incompatible version of 4?

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 19 14:58:03 2008
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:58:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] DOT5 (was: Clutch Question)
In-Reply-To: <47BADE10.19800.FBE402@localhost>
Message-ID: <559126.37403.qm@web51111.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

DOT 5.1 is DOT 4 but better. It is reportedly compatible with everything but DOT 5. 
   
  Jim

John F Sandhoff <sandhoff at csus.edu> wrote:
  Keep in mind that DOT5 has been reported to be harder to get a
clean system bleed with. Power bleeding seems to be more
effective than other methods. Also, DOT5 will find its way thru tiny
seal imperfections so a system that's leak-free on DOT3/4 may end
up leaking on DOT5.

I don't know how DOT 5.1 behaves. It's apparently not silicone based
like 5.

I personally use DOT4 - Castrol GT/LMA for years and years but have
switched to Valvoline synthetic DOT4.

-- John
John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA
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From d-solomon at comcast.net  Tue Feb 19 15:25:32 2008
From: d-solomon at comcast.net (d-solomon at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:25:32 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] DOT5 followup
Message-ID: <021920082225.23901.47BB575B0008FEDA00005D5D22007610640201030104019CD30B@comcast.net>

5.1 IS compatible with 3 and 4, but not with 5.

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "John F Sandhoff" <sandhoff at csus.edu> 

> (note to self: Finish web searches BEFORE hitting the SEND button...) 
> 
> One site I read stated that 5.1 absorbs moisture, and will damage 
> paint. Two things that straight 5 reportedly does not do. 
> 
> So is 5.1 just an incompatible version of 4? 
> 
> -- John 
> John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA 
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Feb 19 15:47:43 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:47:43 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] DOT5 (was: Clutch Question)
Message-ID: <021920082247.18769.47BB5C8F00058CB8000049512209229927CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Yeah, ya can't go wrong with Castrol, especially if you flush regular. Wait...did I just say..... <g>

A synthetic DOT 4? Interesting. 

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "John F Sandhoff" <sandhoff at csus.edu>
> Keep in mind that DOT5 has been reported to be harder to get a
> clean system bleed with. Power bleeding seems to be more
> effective than other methods. Also, DOT5 will find its way thru tiny
> seal imperfections so a system that's leak-free on DOT3/4 may end
> up leaking on DOT5.
> 
> I don't know how DOT 5.1 behaves. It's apparently not silicone based
> like 5.
> 
> I personally use DOT4 - Castrol GT/LMA for years and years but have
> switched to Valvoline synthetic DOT4.
> 
> -- John
>      John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA
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From RWM at RWMann.com  Tue Feb 19 15:51:04 2008
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:51:04 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] DOT5 followup
In-Reply-To: <021920082225.23901.47BB575B0008FEDA00005D5D22007610640201030104019CD30B@comcast.net>
References: <021920082225.23901.47BB575B0008FEDA00005D5D22007610640201030104019CD30B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <47BB5D58.4000105@RWMann.com>

Odd that they'd classify it 5.1 when it is incompatible with 5.

But when does logic play a part...





d-solomon at comcast.net wrote:

>5.1 IS compatible with 3 and 4, but not with 5.
>
>-------------- Original message -------------- 
>From: "John F Sandhoff" <sandhoff at csus.edu> 
>
>  
>
>>(note to self: Finish web searches BEFORE hitting the SEND button...) 
>>
>>One site I read stated that 5.1 absorbs moisture, and will damage 
>>paint. Two things that straight 5 reportedly does not do. 
>>
>>So is 5.1 just an incompatible version of 4? 
>>
>>-- John 

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Feb 19 15:58:45 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:58:45 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] DOT5 followup
Message-ID: <021920082258.5680.47BB5F250008A8E6000016302209229927CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

DOT 3 and 4 are also hydroscopic, i.e. absorb water. My understanding is that 5.1 is the new and improved replacement for DOT 3 (mostly US) and DOT 4 (mostly non-US).

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "John F Sandhoff" <sandhoff at csus.edu>
> (note to self: Finish web searches BEFORE hitting the SEND button...)
> 
> One site I read stated that 5.1 absorbs moisture, and will damage
> paint. Two things that straight 5 reportedly does not do.
> 
> So is 5.1 just an incompatible version of 4?
> 
> -- John
>      John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA
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From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Tue Feb 19 16:20:55 2008
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:20:55 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] DOT5 followup
In-Reply-To: <021920082258.5680.47BB5F250008A8E6000016302209229927CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>
References: <021920082258.5680.47BB5F250008A8E6000016302209229927CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <b0b0059f0802191520r11e2626dob78db95c7790daa2@mail.gmail.com>

DOT 3, DOT 4, DOT 5, DOT 5.1!!!    GEEZ! Almost as confusing as Windows
Upgrades...  Advance Warning, stay away from DOT Vista!

Makes you wonder how we ever made it this far.



On 2/19/08, ppeters914 at comcast.net <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> DOT 3 and 4 are also hydroscopic, i.e. absorb water. My understanding is
> that 5.1 is the new and improved replacement for DOT 3 (mostly US) and DOT
> 4 (mostly non-US).
>
> Pete
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "John F Sandhoff" <sandhoff at csus.edu>
> > (note to self: Finish web searches BEFORE hitting the SEND button...)
> >
> > One site I read stated that 5.1 absorbs moisture, and will damage
> > paint. Two things that straight 5 reportedly does not do.
> >
> > So is 5.1 just an incompatible version of 4?
> >
> > -- John
> >      John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA
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This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one.

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Tue Feb 19 17:47:11 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:47:11 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Ranch carbs currently available, and in process
Message-ID: <c2f.2b501c04.34ecd28f@aol.com>

Hello all,
 
    Plugging away trying to catch up. Currently I have  a couple sets of 
68-69 1600 SU sets and one 70 1600 set available. Please  drop me a note if you 
are looking for some. 
 
    I am working on 2000 SUs and early 1600 SUs. I am  trying real hard to 
catch up with the waiting list in the next two or three  months. Anyone 
currently on the waiting list is welcome to drop me a note. It  does a couple of 
things, provides motivation and augments my  sometimes inefficient filing system. 
 
keith "the slow carb guy" williams



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From racery at comcast.net  Tue Feb 19 17:56:33 2008
From: racery at comcast.net (racery at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:56:33 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Give me a BRAKE fluid...
Message-ID: <022020080056.14347.47BB7AC1000A03750000380B2206998499979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net>

"I personally use DOT4 - Castrol GT/LMA for years and years but have
switched to Valvoline synthetic DOT4."

The last bottle of Castrol I bought said 'New- now synthetic!' on the side...
and looked a lot like the previous bottle, which claimed no such thing.

BTW, silicosis is what happens to your lungs from breathing silica...

heh.

Toby

From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Tue Feb 19 18:45:19 2008
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (Mike H.)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:45:19 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] DOT5 followup
Message-ID: <00b901c87362$401f4700$6500a8c0@lap>

Here is some more info to fan the flames of confusion. I didn't write it so
don't blame me if anyone disagrees, this info is for entertainment purposes
only!
Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker / 5-speed

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of Brake Fluid Advisor.pdf]

From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Tue Feb 19 19:00:30 2008
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (Mike H.)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:00:30 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] DOT5 followup
References: <00b901c87362$401f4700$6500a8c0@lap>
Message-ID: <00c001c87364$5f1ed880$6500a8c0@lap>

Never mind, it didn't get through.
M.H.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike H." <twobeaners at earthlink.net>
To: "Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] DOT5 followup


> Here is some more info to fan the flames of confusion. I didn't write it
so
> don't blame me if anyone disagrees, this info is for entertainment
purposes
> only!
> Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker / 5-speed
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a
name of Brake Fluid Advisor.pdf]

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Tue Feb 19 19:03:44 2008
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:03:44 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] DOT5 followup
References: <021920082258.5680.47BB5F250008A8E6000016302209229927CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>
	<b0b0059f0802191520r11e2626dob78db95c7790daa2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002701c87364$eeeb6ff0$7d15a8c0@garage.local>

only because this was pointed out some time ago:  hygroscopic - absorbs 
water from the atmosphere

not hydroscopic - that is not a word

>>
>> DOT 3 and 4 are also hydroscopic, i.e. absorb water. My understanding is
>> that 5.1 is the new and improved replacement for DOT 3 (mostly US) and 
>> DOT
>> 4 (mostly non-US).

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Feb 19 19:40:47 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:40:47 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] DOT5 followup
In-Reply-To: <002701c87364$eeeb6ff0$7d15a8c0@garage.local>
Message-ID: <002601c8736a$003637e0$6501a8c0@xp>

Ahhhh....that's right. I stand (actually sit) corrected. <g>

Thanks.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Oliver
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:04 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] DOT5 followup


only because this was pointed out some time ago:  hygroscopic - absorbs 
water from the atmosphere

not hydroscopic - that is not a word

>>
>> DOT 3 and 4 are also hydroscopic, i.e. absorb water. My understanding 
>> is that 5.1 is the new and improved replacement for DOT 3 (mostly US) 
>> and DOT 4 (mostly non-US).
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From d-solomon at comcast.net  Tue Feb 19 19:42:36 2008
From: d-solomon at comcast.net (Daniel Solomon)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:42:36 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] DOT5 followup
In-Reply-To: <021920082258.5680.47BB5F250008A8E6000016302209229927CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>
References: <021920082258.5680.47BB5F250008A8E6000016302209229927CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <47BB939C.4030403@comcast.net>

not to nit-pick, but I believe the word is HyGroscopic.... meaning to 
readily absorb water from the atmosphere. 
(a hyDroscope is a device used to view objects underwater.)
:-)

ppeters914 at comcast.net wrote:
> DOT 3 and 4 are also hydroscopic, i.e. absorb water. My understanding is that 5.1 is the new and improved replacement for DOT 3 (mostly US) and DOT 4 (mostly non-US).
>
> Pete
>
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "John F Sandhoff" <sandhoff at csus.edu>
>   
>> (note to self: Finish web searches BEFORE hitting the SEND button...)
>>
>> One site I read stated that 5.1 absorbs moisture, and will damage
>> paint. Two things that straight 5 reportedly does not do.
>>
>> So is 5.1 just an incompatible version of 4?
>>
>> -- John
>>      John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA
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From garytew at cox.net  Tue Feb 19 21:28:27 2008
From: garytew at cox.net (garytew at cox.net)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:28:27 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] enjoy the ride
Message-ID: <20080219232827.CRUFI.119730.root@fed1wml19>

Spent about 45 mins today in the Roadster driving on some less traveled winding roads around one of the local lakes.  Hit triple digits several times on the speedo on some straightaways.  The car handles great and feels solid on the road.  Still fine tuning the fuel tables.  Will probably take it to a dyno and get some pros to dial everything in from here.  My face is still sore from the huge grin on my face.  I caught myself chuckling a few times.  I guess it's the little things.  Should have some new pics on the website in a few days and hopefully some video in the near future!  Have a nice day!

Gary Tew
Peoria, AZ
'67 1600 VG30
www.members.cox.net/garytew

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Tue Feb 19 22:01:01 2008
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:01:01 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] enjoy the ride
References: <20080219232827.CRUFI.119730.root@fed1wml19>
Message-ID: <00d301c8737d$97b11410$0b3fcf18@Daryl>

Congratulations!
I was driving and tuning my car on Monday also. A little cold but not too 
bad. Took Ross Mullen out for a quick little spin. The car is running pretty 
good, and I'm starting to learn what to look for in the tables/log viewer 
when it's not.
I've got some Valve issues to sort before I take it out again tho. Hopefully 
in warmer weather..........
I didn't even get close to triple digits...

Daryl

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <garytew at cox.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:28 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] enjoy the ride


> Spent about 45 mins today in the Roadster driving on some less traveled 
> winding roads around one of the local lakes.  Hit triple digits several 
> times on the speedo on some straightaways.  The car handles great and 
> feels solid on the road.  Still fine tuning the fuel tables.  Will 
> probably take it to a dyno and get some pros to dial everything in from 
> here.  My face is still sore from the huge grin on my face.  I caught 
> myself chuckling a few times.  I guess it's the little things.  Should 
> have some new pics on the website in a few days and hopefully some video 
> in the near future!  Have a nice day!
>
> Gary Tew
> Peoria, AZ
> '67 1600 VG30
> www.members.cox.net/garytew

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Tue Feb 19 22:19:33 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:19:33 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] soft tops
In-Reply-To: <20080218233456.M5GZE.109501.root@fed1wml12.mgt.cox.net>
Message-ID: <00e001c87380$2e699a60$6700a8c0@chrissy>

Will you be installing it yourself, or having a shop do it?  Reason I ask is
most shops will quote an installed price, including the top.  Around here,
If you provide your own top, the cost to put it on plus the price you paid
of the top is usually a lot more than the price quoted for an installed top.
I installed my own by myself, it was not the hardest job I've done, but it
was very tedious. It's about 90% correct, I think could have been better if
installed by an expert.  Flip side, I hardly ever put the top up.
As far as what top to buy, IMHO it depends on how much use it will get.
Daily driver, up and down a lot, I would get the best I could afford.  My
case, middle of the road vinyl is fine.  I'm told the zip down window is
nice, as is the tinted windows, especially if you get a lot of sun.

-----Original Message-----
From: garytew at cox.net [mailto:garytew at cox.net]

I'm getting to the point of deciding on which soft top to buy.  Has anyone
bought recently?  Mention quality, fabric or vinyl, cost, vendor, etc.  I'm
thinking most are going to be made from  1 or 2 manufacturers but just
wanted to get ideas.

Gary Tew
Peoria, AZ
'67 1600 VG30

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Feb 19 22:26:09 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:26:09 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] enjoy the ride
In-Reply-To: <00d301c8737d$97b11410$0b3fcf18@Daryl>
Message-ID: <000601c87381$19fac760$6501a8c0@xp>

Don't forget, Gary's got two additional cylinders and a later tranny. Might
make a little difference. <g>

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Daryl Smith
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:01 PM
To: garytew at cox.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] enjoy the ride


Congratulations!
I was driving and tuning my car on Monday also. A little cold but not too
bad. Took Ross Mullen out for a quick little spin. The car is running pretty

good, and I'm starting to learn what to look for in the tables/log viewer
when it's not.
I've got some Valve issues to sort before I take it out again tho. Hopefully

in warmer weather..........
I didn't even get close to triple digits...

Daryl

----- Original Message -----
From: <garytew at cox.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:28 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] enjoy the ride


> Spent about 45 mins today in the Roadster driving on some less
> traveled
> winding roads around one of the local lakes.  Hit triple digits several
> times on the speedo on some straightaways.  The car handles great and
> feels solid on the road.  Still fine tuning the fuel tables.  Will
> probably take it to a dyno and get some pros to dial everything in from
> here.  My face is still sore from the huge grin on my face.  I caught
> myself chuckling a few times.  I guess it's the little things.  Should
> have some new pics on the website in a few days and hopefully some video
> in the near future!  Have a nice day!
>
> Gary Tew
> Peoria, AZ
> '67 1600 VG30
> www.members.cox.net/garytew
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From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Tue Feb 19 22:40:24 2008
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:40:24 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] soft tops
References: <00e001c87380$2e699a60$6700a8c0@chrissy>
Message-ID: <000d01c87383$26523190$7d15a8c0@garage.local>

be sure you get the zip out rear window!!!!

its the only tolerable way to run in the hot summer sun

.  I'm told the zip down window is
> nice, as is the tinted windows, especially if you get a lot of sun.

From aultgc at att.net  Wed Feb 20 10:55:22 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:55:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] soft tops
Message-ID: <697350.34391.qm@web83817.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

"Hot summer sun"..."top up".  What's wrong with this picture?

Gary


----- Original Message ----
From: Oliver <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:40:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] soft tops

be sure you get the zip out rear window!!!!

its the only tolerable way to run in the hot summer sun

.  I'm told the zip down window is
> nice, as is the tinted windows, especially if you get a lot of sun.
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From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Wed Feb 20 11:15:30 2008
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:15:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] soft tops
In-Reply-To: <697350.34391.qm@web83817.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <845547.14067.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

People are always telling me, on those blazing hot summer days when the sun is pounding down like a hammer, that "this would be a great day to take a ride in your Roadster, wouldn't it?", to which I counter, "No, this evening when the sun is almost down and the temperature is in the 70s or 80s would be a great time to take the Roadster out. Right now I want a roof over my head and the A/C on..."  ;^)

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

Gary and Cindy Ault <aultgc at att.net> wrote: "Hot summer sun"..."top up".  What's wrong with this picture?

Gary


----- Original Message ----
From: Oliver 
To: "Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:40:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] soft tops

be sure you get the zip out rear window!!!!

its the only tolerable way to run in the hot summer sun

.  I'm told the zip down window is
> nice, as is the tinted windows, especially if you get a lot of sun.

From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com  Wed Feb 20 11:37:44 2008
From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:37:44 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] soft tops
In-Reply-To: <697350.34391.qm@web83817.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <697350.34391.qm@web83817.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <47BC7378.3020803@hornesystemstx.com>

I bought my latest Roadster in California, about 10 years ago. We drove 
it back to Central Texas. Most of the way we left the top down, but in 
Wast Texas, with the temperature running about 120, we put it up and 
unzipped the back window. It made it a lot more enjoyable. After we 
cleared the desert we put the top back down.

120 wouldn't have been bad for an hour or two, but all day is a bit much!

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Gary and Cindy Ault:
> "Hot summer sun"..."top up".  What's wrong with this picture?
>
> Gary
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Oliver <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:40:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] soft tops
>
> be sure you get the zip out rear window!!!!
>
> its the only tolerable way to run in the hot summer sun
>
> .  I'm told the zip down window is
>   
>> nice, as is the tinted windows, especially if you get a lot of sun.
>>     
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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Wed Feb 20 11:52:10 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:52:10 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] soft tops
Message-ID: <bd1.293345ea.34edd0da@aol.com>

In a message dated 2/20/2008 9:56:17 AM Pacific Standard Time,  
aultgc at att.net writes:

"Hot  summer sun"..."top up".  What's wrong with this  picture?

Gary





The first year I drove to Shasta I had the top down. Burnt the tops of my  
ears so bad that I was miserable for quite a while. The zip down window is  
great. 
 
keith



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From gregs672liter at netzero.net  Wed Feb 20 13:11:34 2008
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:11:34 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] soft tops
Message-ID: <20080220.121134.18542.0@webmail24.vgs.untd.com>

My answer to being too hot is a spray bottle of water... works great!  Years
ago I drove a clapped out Roadster that I bought on ebay from San Diego back
to Tacoma.  It was sooooo freakin hot that my shoes literally melted to the
floor (no carpets).  Without the water bottle I would have died, but just a
little spritz and you're good for a while.  Does become addicting though, but
hey if your copilot is of the right gender and mind, a damp t-shirt is not a
bad thing... oink oink oink! (Ok, sorry, we got a little sun in Washington the
other day and it made me think of spring...)
Greg Burrows

-- Pat Horne <roadsters at hornesystemstx.com> wrote:
I bought my latest Roadster in California, about 10 years ago. We drove
it back to Central Texas. Most of the way we left the top down, but in
Wast Texas, with the temperature running about 120, we put it up and
unzipped the back window. It made it a lot more enjoyable. After we
cleared the desert we put the top back down.

120 wouldn't have been bad for an hour or two, but all day is a bit much!

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Gary and Cindy Ault:
> "Hot summer sun"..."top up".  What's wrong with this picture?
>
> Gary
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Oliver <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:40:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] soft tops
>
> be sure you get the zip out rear window!!!!
>
> its the only tolerable way to run in the hot summer sun
>
> .  I'm told the zip down window is
>
>> nice, as is the tinted windows, especially if you get a lot of sun.
>>
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Feb 20 13:40:43 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:40:43 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] soft tops
Message-ID: <022020082040.5733.47BC904B0003E46C000016652209229927CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

In Oliver's case, nada......he lives in Texas. <g>

Seriously, sometimes the sun can get brutal and you'll want the top up. Not me, but some folks.

Pete "lifetime event pass to the Pacific NW Rain Festival"

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Gary and Cindy Ault <aultgc at att.net>
> "Hot summer sun"..."top up".  What's wrong with this picture?
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Oliver <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:40:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] soft tops
> 
> be sure you get the zip out rear window!!!!
> 
> its the only tolerable way to run in the hot summer sun
> 
> .  I'm told the zip down window is
> > nice, as is the tinted windows, especially if you get a lot of sun.
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Feb 20 13:41:52 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:41:52 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] soft tops
Message-ID: <022020082041.7354.47BC909000003B8100001CBA2209229927CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Hehehehehe.....Gary knows....

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Gary McCormick <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net>
> People are always telling me, on those blazing hot summer days when the sun is 
> pounding down like a hammer, that "this would be a great day to take a ride in 
> your Roadster, wouldn't it?", to which I counter, "No, this evening when the sun 
> is almost down and the temperature is in the 70s or 80s would be a great time to 
> take the Roadster out. Right now I want a roof over my head and the A/C on..."  
> ;^)
> 
> Gary McCormick
> San Jose, CA
> 
> Gary and Cindy Ault <aultgc at att.net> wrote: "Hot summer sun"..."top up".  What's 
> wrong with this picture?
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Oliver 
> To: "Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:40:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] soft tops
> 
> be sure you get the zip out rear window!!!!
> 
> its the only tolerable way to run in the hot summer sun
> 
> .  I'm told the zip down window is
> > nice, as is the tinted windows, especially if you get a lot of sun.
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Feb 20 13:52:20 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:52:20 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] It's called the sun (was "Re:  soft tops")
Message-ID: <022020082052.26320.47BC9304000E7758000066D02209229927CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Yeah, I actually got to work on the 411 on Saturday (installed countertop ply on Sunday). Got several of the firewall holes caulked. Trying to stop the water running inside....sigh...

Guess what? Headlights no worky muy bien if'n the contacts are all corroded and/or not fully pressed onto the lamps....DOH! Also discovered the wires coming off the alternator were all ready to break off....that woulda been fun.....NOT.

So, one thing marked off the Project List; two added.

Pete "mold stinks"
[snip]

Ok, sorry, we got a little sun in Washington the other day and it made me think of spring...)

> Greg Burrows

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Wed Feb 20 16:07:06 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:07:06 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Give me a BRAKE fluid...
In-Reply-To: <022020080056.14347.47BB7AC1000A03750000380B2206998499979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <E1JRy1m-0007id-R8@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

If that silica came from a volcano, its technical name is
pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis, and at 45 letters long!
Wooohoooo!
Matt "word" Smith  :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of racery at comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:57 PM
To: roadster list
Subject: [Roadsters] Give me a BRAKE fluid...

"I personally use DOT4 - Castrol GT/LMA for years and years but have
switched to Valvoline synthetic DOT4."

The last bottle of Castrol I bought said 'New- now synthetic!' on the
side...
and looked a lot like the previous bottle, which claimed no such thing.

BTW, silicosis is what happens to your lungs from breathing silica...

heh.

Toby
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From aiken1315 at bellsouth.net  Wed Feb 20 16:33:28 2008
From: aiken1315 at bellsouth.net (aiken1315 at bellsouth.net)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:33:28 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] 67 1/2 horm button removal
Message-ID: <022020082333.11160.47BCB8C80009C03E00002B9822230703729B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFCACECCCE020A05070E@att.net>

A friend of mine says the 66 and 67 horn button pops off and the 68-70 twist and turns off.  I need to take the horn button off of a 67 1/2.  Anyone know how it comes off?

Thanks
David Chapman
66 running fine
70 in pieces (frame off for a novice!)
67 1/2 rust bucket 

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Wed Feb 20 17:13:35 2008
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:13:35 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] enjoy the ride
References: <000601c87381$19fac760$6501a8c0@xp>
Message-ID: <000801c8741e$9a916580$0b3fcf18@Daryl>

Yep, he's got 2 more cylinders and 1.2 litres more displacement......But 
unless his tranny is newer than 1992, I've got the 'later' tranny.....Not 
that that is going help me keep up to him  ;-)

Daryl
'66 1800cc R/G Stroker, Megasquirt EFI, EDIS ignition, '92 240SX 5 spd 
w/Diesel 'bellhousing'.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] enjoy the ride


> Don't forget, Gary's got two additional cylinders and a later tranny. 
> Might
> make a little difference. <g>
>
> Pete
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Daryl Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:01 PM
> To: garytew at cox.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] enjoy the ride
>
>
> Congratulations!
> I was driving and tuning my car on Monday also. A little cold but not too
> bad. Took Ross Mullen out for a quick little spin. The car is running 
> pretty
>
> good, and I'm starting to learn what to look for in the tables/log viewer
> when it's not.
> I've got some Valve issues to sort before I take it out again tho. 
> Hopefully
>
> in warmer weather..........
> I didn't even get close to triple digits...
>
> Daryl
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <garytew at cox.net>
> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:28 PM
> Subject: [Roadsters] enjoy the ride
>
>
>> Spent about 45 mins today in the Roadster driving on some less
>> traveled
>> winding roads around one of the local lakes.  Hit triple digits several
>> times on the speedo on some straightaways.  The car handles great and
>> feels solid on the road.  Still fine tuning the fuel tables.  Will
>> probably take it to a dyno and get some pros to dial everything in from
>> here.  My face is still sore from the huge grin on my face.  I caught
>> myself chuckling a few times.  I guess it's the little things.  Should
>> have some new pics on the website in a few days and hopefully some video
>> in the near future!  Have a nice day!
>>
>> Gary Tew
>> Peoria, AZ
>> '67 1600 VG30
>> www.members.cox.net/garytew
> Datsun-roadsters mailing list

From machworx at gmail.com  Wed Feb 20 17:30:42 2008
From: machworx at gmail.com (Richard Schnoor)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:30:42 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] DOT5 (was: Clutch Question)
In-Reply-To: <47BADE10.19800.FBE402@localhost>
References: <021920082038.21215.47BB3E5700061E44000052DF22073007930201030104019CD30B@comcast.net>
	<695136.19417.qm@web51111.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<47BADE10.19800.FBE402@localhost>
Message-ID: <597504c80802201630t122a64du706a80664c508076@mail.gmail.com>

Its been a while since I have worked on my roadsters, but I have some
questions: Forever DOT3 was the standard brake fluid which is hygroscopic
(absorbs water from high humidity air) which then ends up rusting your brake
calipers. Some one told me about DOT 4 which was silicone based & was not
hygroscopic so rusting wasn't a problem for a seldomly driven car. When I
changed over to "4" my brakes were extremely spongy & was accordingly was a
problem with this type of brake fluid. I even built a pressurized auto
bleeder so I could bleed my brakes alone but resulted in no reduction in
sponginess. So what is DOT 5 & 5.1? Do these new fluids address the
sponginess or rusting problem?

On 2/19/08, John F Sandhoff <sandhoff at csus.edu> wrote:
>
> Keep in mind that DOT5 has been reported to be harder to get a
> clean system bleed with. Power bleeding seems to be more
> effective than other methods. Also, DOT5 will find its way thru tiny
> seal imperfections so a system that's leak-free on DOT3/4 may end
> up leaking on DOT5.
>
> I don't know how DOT 5.1 behaves. It's apparently not silicone based
> like 5.
>
> I personally use DOT4 - Castrol GT/LMA for years and years but have
> switched to Valvoline synthetic DOT4.
>
> -- John
>     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Feb 20 17:53:59 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:53:59 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] enjoy the ride
Message-ID: <022120080053.16633.47BCCBA70003C72B000040F92200735834CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

* slaps side of head...

Oh! That's right. You've got the one-off special fabrication using the diesel housing....

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Daryl Smith" <drlsmith at dccnet.com>
> Yep, he's got 2 more cylinders and 1.2 litres more displacement......But 
> unless his tranny is newer than 1992, I've got the 'later' tranny.....Not 
> that that is going help me keep up to him  ;-)
> 
> Daryl
> '66 1800cc R/G Stroker, Megasquirt EFI, EDIS ignition, '92 240SX 5 spd 
> w/Diesel 'bellhousing'.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] enjoy the ride
> 
> 
> > Don't forget, Gary's got two additional cylinders and a later tranny. 
> > Might
> > make a little difference. <g>
> >
> > Pete
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
> > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
> > Behalf Of Daryl Smith
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:01 PM
> > To: garytew at cox.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] enjoy the ride
> >
> >
> > Congratulations!
> > I was driving and tuning my car on Monday also. A little cold but not too
> > bad. Took Ross Mullen out for a quick little spin. The car is running 
> > pretty
> >
> > good, and I'm starting to learn what to look for in the tables/log viewer
> > when it's not.
> > I've got some Valve issues to sort before I take it out again tho. 
> > Hopefully
> >
> > in warmer weather..........
> > I didn't even get close to triple digits...
> >
> > Daryl
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <garytew at cox.net>
> > To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:28 PM
> > Subject: [Roadsters] enjoy the ride
> >
> >
> >> Spent about 45 mins today in the Roadster driving on some less
> >> traveled
> >> winding roads around one of the local lakes.  Hit triple digits several
> >> times on the speedo on some straightaways.  The car handles great and
> >> feels solid on the road.  Still fine tuning the fuel tables.  Will
> >> probably take it to a dyno and get some pros to dial everything in from
> >> here.  My face is still sore from the huge grin on my face.  I caught
> >> myself chuckling a few times.  I guess it's the little things.  Should
> >> have some new pics on the website in a few days and hopefully some video
> >> in the near future!  Have a nice day!
> >>
> >> Gary Tew
> >> Peoria, AZ
> >> '67 1600 VG30
> >> www.members.cox.net/garytew
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Feb 20 18:10:42 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:10:42 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] DOT5 (was: Clutch Question)
Message-ID: <022120080110.1117.47BCCF92000B4B060000045D2213575333CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

DOT 3 & DOT 4 are basically the same. DOT 4 has a higher boiling point.

DOT 4 is -NOT- silicone-based.....-ONLY- DOT 5.

DOT 5 is not new. Can't find when it came into being, but I remember seeing it in the '70's.

DOT 5.1 is really just a higher boiling point super DOT 4 developed for the racing community. Why they named it 5.1 instead of 4-point-something or 6 is beyond me.

Several interesting articles:

<http://www.xs11.com/tips/maintenance/maint1.shtml>
<http://www.motorcycleproject.com/motorcycle/text/cows-brakefluid.html>

Plenty more to delight, educate, and amuse.....just Google...

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Richard Schnoor" <machworx at gmail.com>
> Its been a while since I have worked on my roadsters, but I have some
> questions: Forever DOT3 was the standard brake fluid which is hygroscopic
> (absorbs water from high humidity air) which then ends up rusting your brake
> calipers. Some one told me about DOT 4 which was silicone based & was not
> hygroscopic so rusting wasn't a problem for a seldomly driven car. When I
> changed over to "4" my brakes were extremely spongy & was accordingly was a
> problem with this type of brake fluid. I even built a pressurized auto
> bleeder so I could bleed my brakes alone but resulted in no reduction in
> sponginess. So what is DOT 5 & 5.1? Do these new fluids address the
> sponginess or rusting problem?
> 
> On 2/19/08, John F Sandhoff <sandhoff at csus.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Keep in mind that DOT5 has been reported to be harder to get a
> > clean system bleed with. Power bleeding seems to be more
> > effective than other methods. Also, DOT5 will find its way thru tiny
> > seal imperfections so a system that's leak-free on DOT3/4 may end
> > up leaking on DOT5.
> >
> > I don't know how DOT 5.1 behaves. It's apparently not silicone based
> > like 5.
> >
> > I personally use DOT4 - Castrol GT/LMA for years and years but have
> > switched to Valvoline synthetic DOT4.
> >
> > -- John
> >     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA
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From jake7140 at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 20 18:33:31 2008
From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:33:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 2, Issue 75
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2356.1203555247.1200.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <229701.97170.qm@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

DOT4 is upgraded DOT3, better dry & wet(?) boiling specs. Should be
no difference in pedal feel at normal brake temperatures.  It too is
hygroscopic (attracts water).  There are various brake fluid tests
available, with purported boiling points and "hygroscopic-ness".

DOT5 is silicone based, not hygroscopic so does not promote rust,
prone to trapping tiny bubbles (like be careful when pouring in),
hence can be spongy. Not compatible with DOT 3,4,5.1, and if system
is not thouroghly cleaned of those, can cause weird dangerous
behavior.

DOT5.1 is synthetic, DOT 3&4 compatible.  Higher yet dry & wet
boiling points.

I use Motul 600 (DOT 5.1) in my race cars, holds up well, best feel
to me, about $10/bottle (?.5 liter?, 12 or 16 oz). I have liked it
the best. Don't have to worry about wet as it is changed very often.

Lots of people (racers, especially circle trackers) swear by FORD
competition DOT4.  Really cheap, real good.  Must be gotten at Ford
dealer.

For the street, a good DOT 4 should suffice. I have used the
Valvoline synthetic, seems OK.

As long as you don't let it sit forever, s/b OK. A change every 2
years should be quite enough to keep things clean (IMHO).

Speedbleeders make the job easy, as well as a vacuum bleeder.  I have
not had real good luck getting stubborn bubbles out with a
pusher-type  bleeder.  I think you need one of the good professional,
tall ones, not the little bottle types maybe.  I also built a power
bleeder, works, but as I say, doesn't get out the stubborn bubbles. 
I'll not even attempt to go into the supposed physics of why that may
be, cuz I can't prove it.  They just haven't seemed to work as well
for me.

--------------------------------
Its been a while since I have worked on my roadsters, but I have some
questions: Forever DOT3 was the standard brake fluid which is
 hygroscopic
(absorbs water from high humidity air) which then ends up rusting
 your brake
calipers. Some one told me about DOT 4 which was silicone based & was
 not
hygroscopic so rusting wasn't a problem for a seldomly driven car.
 When I
changed over to "4" my brakes were extremely spongy & was accordingly
 was a
problem with this type of brake fluid. I even built a pressurized
 auto
bleeder so I could bleed my brakes alone but resulted in no reduction
 in
sponginess. So what is DOT 5 & 5.1? Do these new fluids address the
sponginess or rusting problem?

Steve
 
Steve's Racing web site
  www.NoNameRacing.com
Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society home
  www.elrss.com

From aultgc at att.net  Wed Feb 20 19:17:22 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:17:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] DOT5 followup
Message-ID: <621333.20110.qm@web83806.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Darn!  He's right!


----- Original Message ----
From: Daniel Solomon <d-solomon at comcast.net>
To: ppeters914 at comcast.net
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:42:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] DOT5 followup

not to nit-pick, but I believe the word is HyGroscopic.... meaning to 
readily absorb water from the atmosphere. 
(a hyDroscope is a device used to view objects underwater.)
:-)

ppeters914 at comcast.net wrote:
> DOT 3 and 4 are also hydroscopic, i.e. absorb water. My understanding is that 5.1 is the new and improved replacement for DOT 3 (mostly US) and DOT 4 (mostly non-US).
>
> Pete
>
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "John F Sandhoff" <sandhoff at csus.edu>
>  
>> (note to self: Finish web searches BEFORE hitting the SEND button...)
>>
>> One site I read stated that 5.1 absorbs moisture, and will damage
>> paint. Two things that straight 5 reportedly does not do.
>>
>> So is 5.1 just an incompatible version of 4?
>>
>> -- John
>>      John F Sandhoff  sandhoff at csus.edu  Sacramento, CA
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From aultgc at att.net  Wed Feb 20 19:39:38 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:39:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] soft tops
Message-ID: <507524.73190.qm@web83818.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Geeeez!  I had no idea there were so many softies out there!  In 1972, I took my roadster from Orange County to Parker Dam in mid-summer.  Given everything we needed to take for the weekend, I had a choice between the top and the spare.  So, we left the top at home.  It was hotter then H___ driving over. Even the air coming in through the vent windows, turned so they caught the air, was hot.  Now, the drive back through the sandstorm near Twentynine Palms and the cold and rain re-entering the LA basin on Sunday were pretty miserable.  But the desert without the top?  Bearable.

Gary


----- Original Message ----
From: "Keith0alan at aol.com" <Keith0alan at aol.com>
To: aultgc at att.net; sumton at sbcglobal.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 12:52:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] soft tops


In a message dated 2/20/2008 9:56:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, aultgc at att.net writes:
"Hot summer sun"..."top up".  What's wrong with this picture?

Gary


 
The first year I drove to Shasta I had the top down. Burnt the tops of my ears so bad that I was miserable for quite a while. The zip down window is great. 
 
keith






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From aultgc at att.net  Wed Feb 20 19:46:01 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:46:01 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] DOT5 (was: Clutch Question)
References: <021920082038.21215.47BB3E5700061E44000052DF22073007930201030104019CD30B@comcast.net><695136.19417.qm@web51111.mail.re2.yahoo.com><47BADE10.19800.FBE402@localhost>
	<597504c80802201630t122a64du706a80664c508076@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001a01c87433$e58175c0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

Richard,

I have been having trouble getting messages FROM the list -- some show up 
days after they were published, so I don't know whether my earlier response 
on this issue even made it to the list.

Several years ago, I replaced the DOT3 fluid in my brake and clutch systems 
with DOT5 (silicone).  I have no clue what DOT4 is, but I don't think it is 
silicone.  I drained the original fluid, flushed the systems thoroughly with 
denatured alcohol, then flushed them thoroughly with silicone fluid.  No 
leaks or other problems ever since.  No pedal softness, either.

Gary Ault


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Schnoor" <machworx at gmail.com>
To: "John F Sandhoff" <sandhoff at csus.edu>
Cc: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] DOT5 (was: Clutch Question)


> Its been a while since I have worked on my roadsters, but I have some
> questions: Forever DOT3 was the standard brake fluid which is hygroscopic
> (absorbs water from high humidity air) which then ends up rusting your 
> brake
> calipers. Some one told me about DOT 4 which was silicone based & was not
> hygroscopic so rusting wasn't a problem for a seldomly driven car. When I
> changed over to "4" my brakes were extremely spongy & was accordingly was 
> a
> problem with this type of brake fluid. I even built a pressurized auto
> bleeder so I could bleed my brakes alone but resulted in no reduction in
> sponginess. So what is DOT 5 & 5.1? Do these new fluids address the
> sponginess or rusting problem?
>
> On 2/19/08, John F Sandhoff <sandhoff at csus.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Keep in mind that DOT5 has been reported to be harder to get a
>> clean system bleed with. Power bleeding seems to be more
>> effective than other methods. Also, DOT5 will find its way thru tiny
>> seal imperfections so a system that's leak-free on DOT3/4 may end
>> up leaking on DOT5.
>>
>> I don't know how DOT 5.1 behaves. It's apparently not silicone based
>> like 5.
>>
>> I personally use DOT4 - Castrol GT/LMA for years and years but have
>> switched to Valvoline synthetic DOT4.
>>
>> -- John
>>     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA
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From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Wed Feb 20 20:36:39 2008
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:36:39 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] soft tops
References: <507524.73190.qm@web83818.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001b01c8743b$00037c20$800101df@garage.local>

we're old.  just like our cars.
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Gary and Cindy Ault
  To: Keith0alan at aol.com ; sumton at sbcglobal.net ;
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
  Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 8:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [Roadsters] soft tops


  Geeeez!  I had no idea there were so many softies out there!  In 1972, I
took my roadster from Orange County to Parker Dam in mid-summer.  Given
everything we needed to take for the weekend, I had a choice between the top
and the spare.  So, we left the top at home.  It was hotter then H___ driving
over. Even the air coming in through the vent windows, turned so they caught
the air, was hot.  Now, the drive back through the sandstorm near Twentynine
Palms and the cold and rain re-entering the LA basin on Sunday were pretty
miserable.  But the desert without the top?  Bearable.

  Gary


  ----- Original Message ----
  From: "Keith0alan at aol.com" <Keith0alan at aol.com>
  To: aultgc at att.net; sumton at sbcglobal.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
  Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 12:52:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [Roadsters] soft tops


  In a message dated 2/20/2008 9:56:17 AM Pacific Standard Time,
aultgc at att.net writes:
    "Hot summer sun"..."top up".  What's wrong with this picture?

    Gary



  The first year I drove to Shasta I had the top down. Burnt the tops of my
ears so bad that I was miserable for quite a while. The zip down window is
great.

  keith

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Wed Feb 20 20:55:48 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:55:48 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] DOT5 (was: Clutch Question)
In-Reply-To: <597504c80802201630t122a64du706a80664c508076@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000101c8743d$a6b5ab90$6700a8c0@chrissy>

As far as I know, DOT 3 and 4 are chemically similar, both absorb water, DOT
4 has a higher wet boiling point.  DOT 5 is silocone based, does not absorb
water, but any water in the system can collect at low points and cause
either local rusting, or at very high temperatures, vaporize and cause a
soft pedal from the "steam"
If I understand this correctly, an advantage to DOT 3 and 4 is that it can
absorb some water, and suspends it, preventing rust.  Once it is saturated,
then it can be a problem.  DOT 5 by comparison does not absorb water from
the air, so less gets in, but any that does get in can be a problem.

5.1 seems a good solution, non silicone, will absorb water, and a high wet
boiling point.

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Schnoor [mailto:machworx at gmail.com]

Its been a while since I have worked on my roadsters, but I have some
questions: Forever DOT3 was the standard brake fluid which is hygroscopic
(absorbs water from high humidity air) which then ends up rusting your brake
calipers. Some one told me about DOT 4 which was silicone based & was not
hygroscopic so rusting wasn't a problem for a seldomly driven car. When I
changed over to "4" my brakes were extremely spongy & was accordingly was a
problem with this type of brake fluid. I even built a pressurized auto
bleeder so I could bleed my brakes alone but resulted in no reduction in
sponginess. So what is DOT 5 & 5.1? Do these new fluids address the
sponginess or rusting problem?



--
Richard Schnoor P.E.

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Wed Feb 20 20:56:21 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:56:21 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] FW:  It's called the sun (was "Re:  soft tops")
Message-ID: <000201c8743d$ba2086a0$6700a8c0@chrissy>

-----Original Message-----
From: dave [mailto:daveandlindab at comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:33 PM
To: 'ppeters914 at comcast.net'
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] It's called the sun (was "Re: soft tops")


Pete, just drill holes in the floor, have a flow through.
Must have been project weekend, I spent Monday, my only day off til May,
with my brother replacing the subfloor and tile in a bathroom.  I'm 6'2"
150, he's 6'6" and about 240, bathroom was about 5' x 8'Was a BIT crowded. I
think I'm getting old, legs and back are killing me. As an added bonus,I had
a stepladder fold up under me at work today,(my fault, rushing)and dropped 4
ft to the marble floor, luckily landed on my feet and didn't pull down the
drop ceiling with me. Now everything else hurts.:(

-----Original Message-----
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net [mailto:ppeters914 at comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 3:52 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] It's called the sun (was "Re: soft tops")


Yeah, I actually got to work on the 411 on Saturday (installed countertop
ply on Sunday). Got several of the firewall holes caulked. Trying to stop
the water running inside....sigh...

Guess what? Headlights no worky muy bien if'n the contacts are all corroded
and/or not fully pressed onto the lamps....DOH! Also discovered the wires
coming off the alternator were all ready to break off....that woulda been
fun.....NOT.

So, one thing marked off the Project List; two added.

Pete "mold stinks"
[snip]

Ok, sorry, we got a little sun in Washington the other day and it made me
think of spring...)

> Greg Burrows

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Wed Feb 20 20:56:52 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:56:52 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] FW:  67 1/2 horm button removal
Message-ID: <000301c8743d$cadbd210$6700a8c0@chrissy>

-----Original Message-----
From: dave [mailto:daveandlindab at comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:47 PM
To: 'aiken1315 at bellsouth.net'
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] 67 1/2 horm button removal


Half a turn, then pry?  Just kidding. I checked 311's,  I couldn't find it,
only the late.  Someone will chime in soon enough with the answer.  But
disconnect the battery Neg first, much quieter.

Dave Brisco
ECR

-----Original Message-----
From: aiken1315 at bellsouth.net [mailto:aiken1315 at bellsouth.net]

A friend of mine says the 66 and 67 horn button pops off and the 68-70 twist
and turns off.  I need to take the horn button off of a 67 1/2.  Anyone know
how it comes off?

Thanks
David Chapman
66 running fine
70 in pieces (frame off for a novice!)
67 1/2 rust bucket

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Wed Feb 20 21:06:34 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:06:34 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 67 1/2 horm button removal
In-Reply-To: <022020082333.11160.47BCB8C80009C03E00002B9822230703729B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFCACECCCE020A05070E@att.net>
Message-ID: <PLEKIPKLOPKJCCDNMINGCEBICIAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>

The 67.5 horn button pops off. If you look very closely, you'll find there's
a small slot where you can insert a flat-blade screwdriver and twist.

Yes, unplug the horns before reinstalling.

Gordon Glasgow
Renton, WA

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of aiken1315 at bellsouth.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 3:33 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] 67 1/2 horm button removal


A friend of mine says the 66 and 67 horn button pops off and the 68-70 twist
and turns off.  I need to take the horn button off of a 67 1/2.  Anyone know
how it comes off?

Thanks
David Chapman
66 running fine
70 in pieces (frame off for a novice!)
67 1/2 rust bucket
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Feb 20 22:04:56 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:04:56 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] DOT5 (was: Clutch Question)
In-Reply-To: <229701.97170.qm@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003001c87447$4da750d0$6501a8c0@xp>

I did a Google search. $10/bottle (.5 litre = 500ml = 16.9 oz) is cheap.
Most places wanted $13-$20!

>From AutoZone online:

12 oz. DOT 3:  $2.59
12 oz. DOT 4:  $3.99
11 oz. DOT 5:  $7.99

You pays your moneys and takes yer choices...I'll stick with DOT 4 and flush
the brakes every two years.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 5:34 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 2, Issue 75


[snip]

I use Motul 600 (DOT 5.1) in my race cars, holds up well, best feel to me,
about $10/bottle (?.5 liter?, 12 or 16 oz). I have liked it the best. Don't
have to worry about wet as it is changed very often.

Lots of people (racers, especially circle trackers) swear by FORD
competition DOT4.  Really cheap, real good.  Must be gotten at Ford dealer.

For the street, a good DOT 4 should suffice. I have used the Valvoline
synthetic, seems OK.

As long as you don't let it sit forever, s/b OK. A change every 2 years
should be quite enough to keep things clean (IMHO).

Speedbleeders make the job easy, as well as a vacuum bleeder.  I have not
had real good luck getting stubborn bubbles out with a pusher-type  bleeder.
I think you need one of the good professional, tall ones, not the little
bottle types maybe.  I also built a power bleeder, works, but as I say,
doesn't get out the stubborn bubbles.
I'll not even attempt to go into the supposed physics of why that may be,
cuz I can't prove it.  They just haven't seemed to work as well for me.

--------------------------------
Its been a while since I have worked on my roadsters, but I have some
questions: Forever DOT3 was the standard brake fluid which is  hygroscopic
(absorbs water from high humidity air) which then ends up rusting  your
brake calipers. Some one told me about DOT 4 which was silicone based & was
not hygroscopic so rusting wasn't a problem for a seldomly driven car.  When
I changed over to "4" my brakes were extremely spongy & was accordingly  was
a problem with this type of brake fluid. I even built a pressurized  auto
bleeder so I could bleed my brakes alone but resulted in no reduction  in
sponginess. So what is DOT 5 & 5.1? Do these new fluids address the
sponginess or rusting problem?

Steve

Steve's Racing web site
  www.NoNameRacing.com
Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society home
  www.elrss.com
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From garytew at cox.net  Wed Feb 20 22:05:03 2008
From: garytew at cox.net (Gary Tew)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:05:03 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] new pictures
Message-ID: <47BD067F.1020208@cox.net>

Put some new pictures on the website today.  Did something crazy 
today... let my wife drive the car!  I swore I would never do it after 
the grief she gave me over the years about that "pile of crap" taking up 
her garage.   I had considered only putting one seat in the car as a 
sign of protest.  But, I have enjoyed the smiles on the few faces, other 
than mine, that have been in the car.  Hers included...  Anyhow just 
click the announcement on the front page to check them out.  Cheers.

Gary Tew
www.members.cox.net/garytew

From aiken1315 at bellsouth.net  Thu Feb 21 04:02:20 2008
From: aiken1315 at bellsouth.net (aiken1315 at bellsouth.net)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:02:20 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 horm button
Message-ID: <022120081102.9864.47BD5A3C0004AD0F0000268822243429029B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFCACECCCE020A05070E@att.net>

Thanks to all who responded.  Unanimous decision is small slot on bottom side and pop off with screw driver.

As my wife says............"Told you so"

David

From RWM at RWMann.com  Thu Feb 21 04:46:46 2008
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM (Out of the Office))
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:46:46 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] soft tops
In-Reply-To: <001b01c8743b$00037c20$800101df@garage.local>
References: <507524.73190.qm@web83818.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<001b01c8743b$00037c20$800101df@garage.local>
Message-ID: <47BD64A6.2000401@RWMann.com>

Older, even...  Lots older.



Oliver wrote:

>we're old.  just like our cars.
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Gary and Cindy Ault
>  To: Keith0alan at aol.com ; sumton at sbcglobal.net ;
>datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>  Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 8:39 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Roadsters] soft tops
>
>
>  Geeeez!  I had no idea there were so many softies out there!  In 1972, I
>took my roadster from Orange County to Parker Dam in mid-summer.  Given
>everything we needed to take for the weekend, I had a choice between the top
>and the spare.  So, we left the top at home.  It was hotter then H___ driving
>over. Even the air coming in through the vent windows, turned so they caught
>the air, was hot.  Now, the drive back through the sandstorm near Twentynine
>Palms and the cold and rain re-entering the LA basin on Sunday were pretty
>miserable.  But the desert without the top?  Bearable.
>
>  Gary
>
>
>  ----- Original Message ----
>  From: "Keith0alan at aol.com" <Keith0alan at aol.com>
>  To: aultgc at att.net; sumton at sbcglobal.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>  Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 12:52:10 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Roadsters] soft tops
>
>
>  In a message dated 2/20/2008 9:56:17 AM Pacific Standard Time,
>aultgc at att.net writes:
>    "Hot summer sun"..."top up".  What's wrong with this picture?
>
>    Gary
>
>
>
>  The first year I drove to Shasta I had the top down. Burnt the tops of my
>ears so bad that I was miserable for quite a while. The zip down window is
>great.

From chalsted at comcast.net  Thu Feb 21 06:19:43 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:19:43 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] inexpensive 2000 DC area pre-Craigslist
Message-ID: <006301c8748c$6c5bfb30$136fa343@craigscomputer>

just picked up a 68 2000 along with a truckload of stuff. plan is to put it on
Craigslist but thought I'd offer to the list first.

last registered/driven 1995 or so, been in storage
did not stop driving due to any mechanical problems- PO had put wider tires on
the car and they failed it for inspection because on full lock the front
wheels would touch against the fender lip. he just stopped driving it and put
it in storage. car has an electric cooling fan, dash cap so that looks good.
floors and rockers very decent, has rust thru at the tops of both rear
wheelwell lips and there's some bubbling at the rears of the front fenders
from old filler. not showing holes on the front fenders but it's there. rear
spring shackles  flipped over, car has air shocks on the rear. bumpers and
grille and headlight scoops along with the back panel on the car painted
black. outside color is orange. still has brake pedal but I wouldn't count on
them being 100% by any means. top has one hole in it from a branch, that
happened last weekend. windows not even fogged badly on it. motor's not stuck
but I haven't fired it up yet. has 5spoke rims- think they're Z car rims.
$1650 as it sits, will be more once on Craigslist. contact me offlist if
interested, I can e-mail pix.  also have available a bunch of other project
roadsters including 67.5 2000's. one tall windshield car even has a
supercharged Buick 3800 with a short shifer Camaro 5spd in it, will likely
keep that one though ;-)

Craig in Virginia

From d-solomon at comcast.net  Thu Feb 21 07:19:29 2008
From: d-solomon at comcast.net (d-solomon at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:19:29 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] new pictures
Message-ID: <022120081419.8991.47BD88710006116A0000231F22007503300201030104019CD30B@comcast.net>

Wow Gary.   

That's BEAUTIFUL.  

I've always been a sucker for a yellow car...... and that one makes me rethink my own planned color choice.....

nicely done.

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: Gary Tew <garytew at cox.net> 

> Put some new pictures on the website today. Did something crazy 
> today... let my wife drive the car! I swore I would never do it after 
> the grief she gave me over the years about that "pile of crap" taking up 
> her garage. I had considered only putting one seat in the car as a 
> sign of protest. But, I have enjoyed the smiles on the few faces, other 
> than mine, that have been in the car. Hers included... Anyhow just 
> click the announcement on the front page to check them out. Cheers. 
> 
> Gary Tew 
> www.members.cox.net/garytew 
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From mikef at carolina.rr.com  Thu Feb 21 11:28:21 2008
From: mikef at carolina.rr.com (mikef at carolina.rr.com)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:28:21 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] new pictures
Message-ID: <820899.663821203618501482.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web05-z02>

Gary, looks good!

mike faggart
682L

---- Gary Tew <garytew at cox.net> wrote: 
> Put some new pictures on the website today.  Did something crazy 
> today... let my wife drive the car!  I swore I would never do it after 
> the grief she gave me over the years about that "pile of crap" taking up 
> her garage.   I had considered only putting one seat in the car as a 
> sign of protest.  But, I have enjoyed the smiles on the few faces, other 
> than mine, that have been in the car.  Hers included...  Anyhow just 
> click the announcement on the front page to check them out.  Cheers.
> 
> Gary Tew
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From aultgc at att.net  Thu Feb 21 18:00:01 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:00:01 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] FW:  67 1/2 horm button removal
References: <000301c8743d$cadbd210$6700a8c0@chrissy>
Message-ID: <004f01c874ee$40f7f6d0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

Dave,

OK, I dug my original wheel and horn button out of the parts bin, where it 
has been since 1972.  The button prys off.  There is a small recess in the 
button which ia aligned with the bottom of the "d", into which you inset a 
flat-blade screwdriver and twist.  You'll see that there is a snap-ring 
around the button which holds the button to the base.  Tougher to get back 
together than to get apart.

Call if you still have questions.

Gary Ault
(219) 322-1923

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dave" <daveandlindab at comcast.net>
To: " Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:56 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: 67 1/2 horm button removal


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dave [mailto:daveandlindab at comcast.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:47 PM
> To: 'aiken1315 at bellsouth.net'
> Subject: RE: [Roadsters] 67 1/2 horm button removal
>
>
> Half a turn, then pry?  Just kidding. I checked 311's,  I couldn't find 
> it,
> only the late.  Someone will chime in soon enough with the answer.  But
> disconnect the battery Neg first, much quieter.
>
> Dave Brisco
> ECR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aiken1315 at bellsouth.net [mailto:aiken1315 at bellsouth.net]
>
> A friend of mine says the 66 and 67 horn button pops off and the 68-70 
> twist
> and turns off.  I need to take the horn button off of a 67 1/2.  Anyone 
> know
> how it comes off?
>
> Thanks
> David Chapman
> 66 running fine
> 70 in pieces (frame off for a novice!)
> 67 1/2 rust bucket
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From jtorres67 at sbcglobal.net  Thu Feb 21 22:40:30 2008
From: jtorres67 at sbcglobal.net (jtorres67)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:40:30 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] SOLVANG ROADSTER CLASSIC UPDATE!!!
Message-ID: <000f01c87515$7002e4e0$0349fea9@Torres>

ONLY 65 DAYS 'TILL SOLVANG 2008!

Make sure to get your registrations in and book your Hotels!!!!(or
campsites!)


Thank you to all who have contacted me off-list! Your donations are very much
appreciated!!!

We are still collecting show donations. If you would like to support our
yearly event please contact us at

WWW.SOLVANGSHOW.COM

to register and for up to date show info!!


THANKS AGAIN!!!!!!

From aiken1315 at bellsouth.net  Fri Feb 22 05:24:35 2008
From: aiken1315 at bellsouth.net (aiken1315 at bellsouth.net)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:24:35 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 horm button
Message-ID: <022220081224.17334.47BEBF02000ECED8000043B622230647029B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFCACECCCE020A05070E@att.net>

Talking about getting old............I need to put on my glasses in the morning so when I type horn I can tell the difference between a m and a n!    :>)

-------------- Original message from aiken1315 at bellsouth.net: -------------- 


> Thanks to all who responded. Unanimous decision is small slot on bottom side 
> and pop off with screw driver. 
> 
> As my wife says............"Told you so" 
> 
> David 
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From tminerpcav at aol.com  Fri Feb 22 06:28:05 2008
From: tminerpcav at aol.com (tminerpcav at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:28:05 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] SOLVANG ROADSTER CLASSIC UPDATE!!!
In-Reply-To: <000f01c87515$7002e4e0$0349fea9@Torres>
References: <000f01c87515$7002e4e0$0349fea9@Torres>
Message-ID: <8CA436DE439CC93-8BC-986@webmail-nc10.sysops.aol.com>

Jeff?& All,

If anyone is looking for some great accomodation for Solvang this year, the Solvang Inn and Cottages has reserved ablock of ground floor rooms (21 to be exact) for our Roadster group.? The rooms arevery nice and clean,? the location is right down the street from where we display our cars on Saturday, and they are very accomodating folks.

The rooms rate range from $99 to $109 per night and include a continental breakfast.? If interested, call 800-848-8484 and mention the "Datsun Roadster Group". Their email is www.solvanginn.com .

Tim Miner




---- Original Message ----
From: jtorres67 <jtorres67 at sbcglobal.net>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 9:40 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] SOLVANG ROADSTER CLASSIC UPDATE!!!



ONLY 65 DAYS 'TILL SOLVANG 2008!

Make sure to get your registrations in and book your Hotels!!!!(or
campsites!)


Thank you to all who have contacted me off-list! Your donations are very much
appreciated!!!

We are still collecting show donations. If you would like to support our
yearly event please contact us at

WWW.SOLVANGSHOW.COM

to register and for up to date show info!!


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From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net  Sat Feb 23 12:35:05 2008
From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:35:05 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] question- transporting a roadster US to Canada
Message-ID: <380-22008262319355396@earthlink.net>

Craig, I spoke with an acquaintance here in Helena, Montana that transports
autos .  He told me the best/easiest way to get a car across the border is
to have the buyer hire a broker on the Canadian side to handle all the
purchase, odometer reading, etc., paperwork.  Might cost about $400 for
this service.  He typically does not transport cars across the border, but
will transport cars to the American side of the crossing, then hand off to
the broker/purchaser at the border.  

If you know where you will cross the border, contact that Canadian or
American border crossing site, they will have the names of brokers that
handle this kind of arrangement.  Hope this helps, Dewey     
  


> [Original Message]
> From: chalsted <chalsted at comcast.net>
> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Date: 2/9/2008 2:24:47 PM
> Subject: [Roadsters] question- transporting a roadster US to Canada
>
> I have someone in Alberta interested in one of my roadsters, does anyone
have
> any recommendations for a shipper to handle that? car would be coming from
> Virginia. also I have no ideas how it all works with customs and duties
and
> appreciate advice on that. thanks in advance for any input :-)
>
> Craig
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From jtorres67 at sbcglobal.net  Sat Feb 23 13:12:59 2008
From: jtorres67 at sbcglobal.net (jtorres67)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:12:59 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Big Thanks to Scott Sheeler!!!
Message-ID: <000a01c87658$7cd76670$0349fea9@Torres>

To the List,

I thought I would throw out a big huge thanks to Scott Sheeler. I just
recieved 6 copies of his "The Datsun Roadster Book" in the mail that he has
kindly donated to the Solvang Show this year. After going through the book, I
found it to have tons of great info and interesting facts. I must say that it
is a great book and deserves to be in any Roadster owners reference library.
There's gonna be six lucky winners in Solvang that get his book this year!
Thanks Scott!!!!!

Jeff T.

Lemoore CA.

From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Sat Feb 23 13:34:54 2008
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (Mike H.)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:34:54 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Big Thanks to Scott Sheeler!!!
References: <000a01c87658$7cd76670$0349fea9@Torres>
Message-ID: <007001c8765b$8ca84a80$6500a8c0@lap>

I liked the books, I used it to rebuild my 5-speed transmission.
Mike Hudson


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jtorres67" <jtorres67 at sbcglobal.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 2:12 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Big Thanks to Scott Sheeler!!!


> To the List,
>
> I thought I would throw out a big huge thanks to Scott Sheeler. I just
> recieved 6 copies of his "The Datsun Roadster Book" in the mail that he
has
> kindly donated to the Solvang Show this year. After going through the
book, I
> found it to have tons of great info and interesting facts. I must say that
it
> is a great book and deserves to be in any Roadster owners reference
library.
> There's gonna be six lucky winners in Solvang that get his book this year!
> Thanks Scott!!!!!
>
> Jeff T.
>
> Lemoore CA.

From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net  Sat Feb 23 17:47:56 2008
From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:47:56 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [Roadsters] Intermountain West engine shop
Message-ID: <14322981.1203814077384.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Does anyone know of a good engine shop in the intermountain west area that can rebuild a U20 engine?  I live in Helena, MT and can drive as far as Salt Lake City (500 miles) to drop off/pick up my motor.  Other cities nearby would be Spokane WA or Billings, MT.  

I am familiar with Rebello Racing in the SF Bay area, but I would prefer to find someone closer to drive to or ship. 

Any help appreciated, TIA.  Dewey Hahlbohm 

From msedlack at neo.rr.com  Sat Feb 23 21:13:58 2008
From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:13:58 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: requesting eperiences w/ crossover suv's
Message-ID: <001501c8769b$ade28090$6c01a8c0@p53ghzduo>

Anyone willing to share good or bad experiences with any particular brands of
smaller crossover / SUV.  We're planning on offing my wife's Durango for
something smaller and more fuel efficient, now that she's not hauling around a
troop of girl scouts.  Need AWD / 4x4 to handle our OH winters.

We've looked at and driven several so far, including the Hyundai Santa Fe,
Ford Escape, and Saturn Vue, and we're planning on doing the same for others
in the same size/class.  Refuse to buy new with the instant depreciation that
goes along with it, but are planning on buying previous model year with 20k or
less miles.

So if you've got a preference, or horror story to share, private mail me if
you've got a couple minutes.

Roadster content - the "R" is snuglytucked away, with Bounce sheets inside and
in the exhaust to keep the mice at bay, waiting for the weather to break.
Thanks in advance,
Mark

From hallosb at juno.com  Sun Feb 24 06:35:29 2008
From: hallosb at juno.com (hallosb at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 13:35:29 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] semi-OT: Bounce Sheets?
Message-ID: <20080224.063529.22290.0@webmail22.vgs.untd.com>

Does that really work? I had a major mice invasion in my garage last year.
Eventually caught them all with traps.  But, not before the little vermints
left a few turds in my Roadster.
If there's something that discourages them, I'd like to give it a try.  I've
heard cotton balls soaked in peppermint oil works, also.
________________________
Mike wrote:
Bounce sheets inside and in the exhaust to keep the mice at bay

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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Sun Feb 24 07:46:31 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 09:46:31 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] semi-OT: Bounce Sheets?
Message-ID: <cb8.27a3504c.34f2dd47@aol.com>

In a message dated 2/24/2008 5:38:23 AM Pacific Standard Time,  
hallosb at juno.com writes:

Does  that really work? I had a major mice invasion in my garage last  year.
Eventually caught them all with traps.  But, not before the  little vermints
left a few turds in my Roadster.
If there's something  that discourages them, I'd like to give it a try.  I've
heard cotton  balls soaked in peppermint oil works,  also.
________________________
Mike wrote:
Bounce sheets inside and  in the exhaust to keep the mice at bay






Steel wool stuffed into the end of the exhaust system keeps them out. Mice  
will actually crawl the full length of the exhaust system and build a nest  
inside a cylinder. Increases the compression but not in a good way. I've heard  
that moth balls work but don't know for sure. My thoughts would be to take 
about  a dozen mouse traps, bait them with peanut butter (mice go crazy for it) 
and sit  them around in plain sight. Check them every once and a while. At work 
we would  occasionally have mice move in. I always left one trap out where it 
could be  seen. When I caught the first mouse I would put out 3 or 4 more. The 
idea was to  catch them right away before they established a breeding colony. 
 
keith



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From tputland at charter.net  Sun Feb 24 08:17:49 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 7:17:49 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] semi-OT: Bounce Sheets? and a joke!
In-Reply-To: <20080224.063529.22290.0@webmail22.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <20080224101749.88J7D.5558.root@fepweb10>

Moth balls do work. It is what I use and have never seen any mouse sign after winter is over. Put a two or three ounces in small containers in the trunk, engine compartment and on the floor inside the car. They do evaporate, but not fast enough and will last all winter. The smell inside the car goes away very quickly.

Do dryer sheets last all winter or do they lose their scent? My wife puts them in stored linens, blankets, etc. but they don't last a full season and have lost their scent by the end of the storage period.

I just wish I had known to plug exhaust pipe. 

Q: Do you know what mothballs smell like?

If so....


A: How did you get his legs apart? 

;-)

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- "hallosb at juno.com" <hallosb at juno.com> wrote: 

=============
Does that really work? I had a major mice invasion in my garage last year.
Eventually caught them all with traps.  But, not before the little vermints
left a few turds in my Roadster.
If there's something that discourages them, I'd like to give it a try.  I've
heard cotton balls soaked in peppermint oil works, also.
________________________
Mike wrote:
Bounce sheets inside and in the exhaust to keep the mice at bay

From tom at datsun2000.com  Sun Feb 24 08:40:37 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 07:40:37 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: requesting eperiences w/ crossover suv's
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGIEGBDEAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

Mark,

I recently purchased a 92 Lexus SC400 as my daily driver.  I had intended to
purchase a used Volvo S60 that was so comfortable it felt like an old easy
chair.  Very quiet inside too.  Since I was driving a Towncar when I found
the Volvo I planned to go back the next day with my trade and purchase it.
But, before I went back I visited www.edmunds.com to see what the owners had
to say about their cars.  I did not like what I was reading and left the
Volvo where I found it.

Take the link to USED CARS that is at the top of the page and track down the
year, make, and model of the car you want.  Then you should see a link to
CONSUMER REVIEW next to a photo of the car you are looking for and the
reliability rating for that car.  This is where you will find owner comments
about the car you are interested in.  Some owners of cars like the Honda
Oddesy have been overjoyed by their choice.  Others, like the Volvo I was
considering, had many comments about problems they have had with the car, or
the service they have received.

By the way... Not having your trade with you is a great way to look at used
cars.  I looked at several before I went back to buy my Lexus.  You have
time to think about the car or do some research on your own while you are
waiting to return to the dealership with trade in hand.

I think you will find what you are looking for here.

Tom
Portland

On 2/23/2008 8:13:58 PM, Mark Sedlack (msedlack at neo.rr.com) wrote:
> Anyone willing to share good or bad experiences with any particular brands
> of
> smaller crossover / SUV.  We're planning on offing my wife's Durango for
> something smaller and more fuel efficient, now that
> she's not hauling around a
> troop of girl scouts.  Need AWD / 4x4 to handle our OH winters.
>
> We've
> looked at and driven several so far, including the Hyundai Santa Fe,
> Ford Escape, and Saturn Vue, and
> we're planning on doing the same for others
> in the same size/class.  Refuse to buy new with the instant depreciation
that
> goes along with it, but are planning on buying previous model year with
20k or
> less miles.
>
> So if you've
> got a preference, or horror story to share, private mail me if
> you've got a couple minutes.
>
> Roadster content - the "R" is snuglytucked away, with Bounce sheets inside
and
> in the exhaust to keep the mice at bay, waiting for the weather to break.
> Thanks in advance,
> Mark

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Sun Feb 24 08:51:48 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 10:51:48 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] semi-OT: Bounce Sheets? and a joke!
References: <20080224101749.88J7D.5558.root@fepweb10>
Message-ID: <009701c876fd$32eaa0e0$e121ffd8@hpcustomer>

  I had mothballs in every corner of my 510 wagon and the mice still got in
and ate holes through the tonneau cover for my roadster.  I'm using traps
this year.

Paul
Ohio

From msedlack at neo.rr.com  Sun Feb 24 09:24:11 2008
From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 11:24:11 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] semi-OT: Bounce Sheets?
References: <20080224.063529.22290.0@webmail22.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <002e01c87701$b0b0f980$6c01a8c0@p53ghzduo>

My dad has been using them for year in his antiques (1930 Chrysler Model 66, 
'31 Model A, and '73 450SL) on the advice of another guy in his club.  I 
started using them 12 or so years ago when I first finished resto-modding 
our 280Z.  For whatever reason, the mice cannot stand the smell of them, and 
neither of us has had any mice in any of our cars, even though there's 
"evidence" of them elsewhere in the garage.  Not to mention the side benefit 
of the cars smelling fresh in the spring....

During construction of the "R", one winter it sat with with the body on the 
stand, and the frame below, with as yet unrebuilit motor in the frame.  I 
had finished building the headers, and had the exhaust mocked up, with just 
straight tubes running along the frame.  Since the car wasn't completed, I 
hadn't done any Bounce.  Come spring when I started taking things apart to 
tear down the motor, I unbolted the exhaust, pulled the heads, and every 
single exhaust port was full of seeds - seems the furry little buggers loved 
using the tubes as a raceway to their storage locker.  Yet they had 
completely ignored the Bounce'd Z, sitting right next to it.

I used to use D-con with great success, but since our Jack Russell Roscoe 
loves to hang out in the shop with me, I don't feel comfortable putting it 
out where he might get into it.
Mark

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <hallosb at juno.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] semi-OT: Bounce Sheets?


> Does that really work? I had a major mice invasion in my garage last year.
> Eventually caught them all with traps.  But, not before the little 
> vermints
> left a few turds in my Roadster.
> If there's something that discourages them, I'd like to give it a try. 
> I've
> heard cotton balls soaked in peppermint oil works, also.
> ________________________
> Mike wrote:
> Bounce sheets inside and in the exhaust to keep the mice at bay

From shifty at shiftco.com  Sun Feb 24 22:35:45 2008
From: shifty at shiftco.com (Leigh Brooks)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:35:45 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] '68 dash wiring harness
Message-ID: <3A886E8E-548B-4D97-9E80-50DD6C775282@shiftco.com>

Anyone have one for sale?

Thanks,

Leigh Brooks

From roadster at astound.net  Mon Feb 25 02:16:01 2008
From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 01:16:01 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] '68 dash wiring harness
In-Reply-To: <3A886E8E-548B-4D97-9E80-50DD6C775282@shiftco.com>
References: <3A886E8E-548B-4D97-9E80-50DD6C775282@shiftco.com>
Message-ID: <0CDCF2DD-B1F0-4556-94B1-780838DB94EE@astound.net>

Hi Leigh,

Are you looking for a new one, or used? I think I have a spare used  
one; I'll check and if so it's yours. How many roadsters you got now,  
besides the 67.5?

Fred - So.SF


On Feb 24, 2008, at 9:35 PM, Leigh Brooks wrote:

> Anyone have one for sale?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Leigh Brooks

From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 16:01:10 2008
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:01:10 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Bar B-Q Reminder! be sure to RSVP
Message-ID: <b0b0059f0802251501u713465desa89e2d01752ad89@mail.gmail.com>

This is a reminder to ALL All Southern California Roadster owners.
It's getting to be Bar B-Q Season and we are going to kick it off!
We are giving you pleanty of notice to arrange your schedule.
We are looking forward to seeing you all here.

Information below
================================================
*April In History
*

1500's  April Fool's Day established

1509 - Henry VIII became King of England

1792 - Congress established the first U.S. Mint at Philadelphia

1789 - U.S. Congress begins regular sessions in Federal Hall

1860 - The American West, Pony Express service began

1864 - "In God We Trust" was included on all newly minted U.S. coins

1913 - The 17th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution was ratified

1918 - During World War I, the Red Baron (Manfred von Richtofen) was shot
down

1960 - Chris Breyer bron to Joe and Shan Breyer in Torrance, CA

1963 - General Hospital premiered on ABC-TV

1964 - Ford Motor Company unveiled its Mustang automobile

1969 - Wheels Magazine featured Fairlady 2000 advertisement. Overhead photo
of girl in car

1970 - Apollo 13 was launched from Cape Kennedy at 2:13 p.m.

1981 - The first space shuttle flight occurred

1987  The first Datsun Roadster Show in Solvang

1997 - AUTOMOBILE MAGAZINE has article on 1962-1970-Datsun 1500/1600/2000
Sports

2007  Chris and Christy Breyer purchased their 1966 Datsun 1600 Roadster

2008  Chris and Christy Breyer host the first Southern California Roadster
Bar-B-Q of the year

*Getting ready for the Solvang trip?
Need to take your Roadster for a drive after the long winter months?
Drive out to Riverside on April 6th 2008 (three weeks before Solvang)
for the first Southern California Roadster Bar-B-Q of the year*

*Hosted by Chris & Christy Breyer
R.S.V.P. by March 30, 2008
951-637-8872*
email: fairlady66 at gmail.com
*Burgers, Hot Dogs will be supplied*
*Bring side dish to share*

*When:* *Sunday, April 6, 2008  12:30pm to.
Location:* *2992 Quebec Drive  7  Riverside, CA  92504*



--
'66 1600
Riverside, CA
------------------------------------------------------
This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one.

From roadster68 at shaw.ca  Mon Feb 25 19:39:39 2008
From: roadster68 at shaw.ca (Larry Dziuba)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:39:39 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] semi-OT: Bounce Sheets? and a joke!
References: <20080224101749.88J7D.5558.root@fepweb10>
	<009701c876fd$32eaa0e0$e121ffd8@hpcustomer>
Message-ID: <000d01c87820$d5df58d0$6401a8c0@useravjfzd6udp>

Anytime I heard of someone using mothballs they never seem to get the stink 
out afterwards.  Larry.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net>
To: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>; <hallosb at juno.com>; 
"datsun-roadsters:autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] semi-OT: Bounce Sheets? and a joke!


>  I had mothballs in every corner of my 510 wagon and the mice still got in

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Tue Feb 26 03:39:59 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 05:39:59 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] semi-OT: Bounce Sheets? and a joke!
References: <20080224101749.88J7D.5558.root@fepweb10><009701c876fd$32eaa0e0$e121ffd8@hpcustomer>
	<000d01c87820$d5df58d0$6401a8c0@useravjfzd6udp>
Message-ID: <01ac01c87864$5be73180$f321ffd8@hpcustomer>

  I always put the moth balls in a plastic dish, never right on the carpet.
Takes an hour or two with the windows open before the smell is gone.

Paul
Ohio
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Dziuba <roadster68 at shaw.ca>
To: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net>; Tim <tputland at charter.net>;
<hallosb at juno.com>; datsun-roadsters:autox.team.net
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] semi-OT: Bounce Sheets? and a joke!


> Anytime I heard of someone using mothballs they never seem to get the
stink
> out afterwards.  Larry.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net>
> To: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>; <hallosb at juno.com>;
> "datsun-roadsters:autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] semi-OT: Bounce Sheets? and a joke!
>
>
> >  I had mothballs in every corner of my 510 wagon and the mice still got
in

From aultgc at att.net  Tue Feb 26 08:57:56 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:57:56 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] semi-OT: Bounce Sheets?
References: <20080224.063529.22290.0@webmail22.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <008101c87890$5ae4b1a0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

I recommend the moth ball approach.  I used them in the roadster for a 
couple of years when I stored it in a barn overwinter, and now I use them 
when I store my boat.  As long a you let things air out in the spring, I 
haven't noticed a residual odor.  No mouse evidence, either.

Gary
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <hallosb at juno.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] semi-OT: Bounce Sheets?


> Does that really work? I had a major mice invasion in my garage last year.
> Eventually caught them all with traps.  But, not before the little 
> vermints
> left a few turds in my Roadster.
> If there's something that discourages them, I'd like to give it a try. 
> I've
> heard cotton balls soaked in peppermint oil works, also.
> ________________________
> Mike wrote:
> Bounce sheets inside and in the exhaust to keep the mice at bay
>
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From larrybraddock at ca.rr.com  Tue Feb 26 13:05:44 2008
From: larrybraddock at ca.rr.com (Larry  Braddock)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:05:44 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] bounce sheets
Message-ID: <000a01c878b2$f89ab760$663baa4c@owner4d7e0adce>

Easy solution. Get a cat.

Larry

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Feb 26 14:59:04 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:59:04 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] bounce sheets
Message-ID: <022620082159.26421.47C48BA8000D988B000067352207000953CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Not so easy considering last year's thread about getting cat pee out of the carpets....

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Larry  Braddock" <larrybraddock at ca.rr.com>
> Easy solution. Get a cat.
> 
> Larry
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From aultgc at att.net  Tue Feb 26 15:44:54 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:44:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] semi-OT: Bounce Sheets? and a joke!
Message-ID: <791914.54475.qm@web83812.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Paul,

What have you been feeding those mice in Ohio?  Are you sure traps will hold them?

Gary

----- Original Message ----
From: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net>
To: Tim <tputland at charter.net>; hallosb at juno.com; datsun-roadsters:autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 9:51:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] semi-OT: Bounce Sheets? and a joke!

  I had mothballs in every corner of my 510 wagon and the mice still got in
and ate holes through the tonneau cover for my roadster.  I'm using traps
this year.

Paul
Ohio
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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Tue Feb 26 17:46:55 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:46:55 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] semi-OT: Bounce Sheets? and a joke!
Message-ID: <c08.2f6b4e80.34f60cff@aol.com>

In a message dated 2/26/2008 2:45:32 PM Pacific Standard Time,  
aultgc at att.net writes:

Paul,

What have you been feeding those mice in Ohio?  Are  you sure traps will hold 
them?

Gary




I was at work early one morning  and heard a rustle behind me. Since I  ws 
there alone it raised my interest. I turned around and saw a rodent of  enormous 
size carry off an entire donut. It was your basic desert pack rat. If  it 
hadn't discovered the donuts I might have let it go. I went to supply and got  a 
rat trap, a mouse trap just wouldn't do it. We had real problems with mice  
destroying really expensive equipment and just had to keep them under control. 
 
kw



**************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living.      
(http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/
2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

From egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us  Tue Feb 26 20:17:25 2008
From: egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us (Eric Gillis)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:17:25 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 2008 20th Polar Bear Run - This Weekend!
References: <022620082159.26421.47C48BA8000D988B000067352207000953CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <65AA4A74232FF24E9BEC8D1163859B1804452316@cusdmx01.cusd.ceres.k12.ca.us>

Just a reminder to any Roadster fan in the Central California Area-

Bring out your roadster or Nissan/Datsun related (or any other topless
car/horseless carriage) for this Saturday's 20th annual Polar Bear Run.

This run was initially put on by Paul Smith of Modesto, and once again, we
will roll out along the valley foothills up to Murphys for lunch, using some
of his maps from years past.  Check out the posting on 311s.org site for
details, meet at the Oakdale Chevron on Albers on the North side of town, near
Hershey's old plant at 8:30.

We should be back to Modesto area by 4:00 or so, with about 150 miles on your
slightly mis-calculated odometer.

Come on out for a fun ride!

Eric Gillis
Modesto Datsun Roadsters

From egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us  Wed Feb 27 11:00:29 2008
From: egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us (Eric Gillis)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:00:29 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 2008 20th Polar Bear Run - Correction!
References: <022620082159.26421.47C48BA8000D988B000067352207000953CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>
	<65AA4A74232FF24E9BEC8D1163859B1804452316@cusdmx01.cusd.ceres.k12.ca.us>
Message-ID: <65AA4A74232FF24E9BEC8D1163859B180445231A@cusdmx01.cusd.ceres.k12.ca.us>

Slight Correction -

We are meeting on the SOUTH side of Oakdale at Chevron, I just can't seem to
get my compass oriented correctly without the topless feel of the roadster!!

See you there!!
Eric Gillis

From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com  Wed Feb 27 10:15:47 2008
From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:15:47 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Nissan Sport issue #6
In-Reply-To: <65AA4A74232FF24E9BEC8D1163859B1804452316@cusdmx01.cusd.ceres.k12.ca.us>
Message-ID: <C3EADAC3.7672%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>

Nissan Sport magazine issue #6 (Winter 2008) has a nice article about Ron
Carpenter's race prepared 67.5 2000 as well as his John Morton Z and a 510
in the works. I've seen the 2000 and it is something to behold. Extremely
well done. Ron trailers it behind a Nissan Armada that has been painted in
the BRE style. 

There is another photo of some Roadsters at a meet as well.

The text of the article said there were only 75 67.5 2000s remaining. I
wonder where they got that number?


Greg
SRL31100494

From gogineni.alvin at gene.com  Wed Feb 27 11:57:32 2008
From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:57:32 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Nissan Sport issue #6
In-Reply-To: <C3EADAC3.7672%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>
References: <65AA4A74232FF24E9BEC8D1163859B1804452316@cusdmx01.cusd.ceres.k12.ca.us>
	<C3EADAC3.7672%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>
Message-ID: <008601c87972$9d50f3e0$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com>

Ron Carter

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Gregory S. Morrison
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 9:16 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Nissan Sport issue #6

Nissan Sport magazine issue #6 (Winter 2008) has a nice article about Ron
Carpenter's race prepared 67.5 2000 as well as his John Morton Z and a 510
in the works. I've seen the 2000 and it is something to behold. Extremely
well done. Ron trailers it behind a Nissan Armada that has been painted in
the BRE style. 

There is another photo of some Roadsters at a meet as well.

The text of the article said there were only 75 67.5 2000s remaining. I
wonder where they got that number?


Greg
SRL31100494
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From tputland at charter.net  Wed Feb 27 14:40:49 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:40:49 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Boot lid
Message-ID: <20080227164049.OP69P.195484.root@fepweb01>

Are the boots lids "interchangeable" from the low windscreen to the high windscreen cars? I know the hinge is different, but are they the same size other wise?

TIA

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
And now two part cars
Still clueless but always learning

From tputland at charter.net  Wed Feb 27 17:52:28 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:52:28 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Boot lid
In-Reply-To: <20080227164049.OP69P.195484.root@fepweb01>
Message-ID: <20080227195228.LI2ET.204225.root@fepweb04>

Or is this a real dumb question?
--


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote: 

=============
Are the boots lids "interchangeable" from the low windscreen to the high windscreen cars? I know the hinge is different, but are they the same size other wise?

TIA

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
And now two part cars
Still clueless but always learning
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From aultgc at att.net  Wed Feb 27 18:18:46 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:18:46 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Boot lid
References: <20080227164049.OP69P.195484.root@fepweb01>
Message-ID: <00d501c879a7$ddd9b1b0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

Tim,

So many cars, so few trunk lids.  Nissan shows two part numbers:  One for 
cars with engine numbers up to R-40000, and one for engine numbers R-40001 
and up.  And, the latter is listed as interchangeable with the former.  So, 
and deck lid you have shold work with whatever car you have with minimal 
modifications.

Anybody on the List have better information?

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>
To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 3:40 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Boot lid


> Are the boots lids "interchangeable" from the low windscreen to the high 
> windscreen cars? I know the hinge is different, but are they the same size 
> other wise?
>
> TIA
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> And now two part cars
> Still clueless but always learning
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From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Wed Feb 27 19:17:26 2008
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (Mike H.)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:17:26 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] For Sale: '68 Wiper motor, linkages, and arms
Message-ID: <005001c879b0$100c5db0$6500a8c0@lap>

I have a complete '68 wiper motor, linkages, arms, big washer thingys, and
nuts. In very good, clean condition. I bought them last year for a spare
thinking they would fit my '67. I had forgotten they don't interchange. If
interested, email for any questions or to make offer.


Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Wed Feb 27 22:32:15 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 00:32:15 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] semi-OT: Bounce Sheets? and a joke!
In-Reply-To: <c08.2f6b4e80.34f60cff@aol.com>
Message-ID: <011d01c879cb$47acfb60$6700a8c0@chrissy>

I like the part about "If  it hadn't discovered the donuts I might have let
it go" ...Live and let live, but don't screw with my donuts!!

 If you want to see some Huge rodents, walk through Manhattan around 6 in
the morning, when it's nice and  quiet, but the sun is up.  The rats in the
alleys are the size of big housecats or possums, easilly 2+ feet with the
tail. These things will haul off the dozen donuts and the box.
On topic, the Victor all plastic snap traps from are great, I use
peanutbutter as bait, about 80% success.  If you ever have a couple hours to
kill, type "better mouse trap" into a google search and read some of the
results.  If you ever thought the Roadster crowd was nutty....

Remember, the early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the
cheese.



Dave Brisco

ECR

-----Original Message-----
I was at work early one morning  and heard a rustle behind me. Since I  ws
there alone it raised my interest. I turned around and saw a rodent of
enormous
size carry off an entire donut. It was your basic desert pack rat. If  it
hadn't discovered the donuts I might have let it go. I went to supply and
got  a
rat trap, a mouse trap just wouldn't do it. We had real problems with mice
destroying really expensive equipment and just had to keep them under
control.

kw

From hoon at pixar.com  Thu Feb 28 11:52:45 2008
From: hoon at pixar.com (Hoon Kim)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:52:45 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] clicking noise with clutch
Message-ID: <26D31456-0C75-406B-AD91-409B8C0C18CB@pixar.com>

Hello roadster list

It's been a long time, but the rain has stopped temporarily and it is  
nice and sunny out.

After getting a jump to start the car up, my roadster ran just  
fine....till right when I get to work.

That's when a loud clicking noise starts up whenever I engage  
disengage the clutch and the car moves. It works with every gear and  
clicks to the speed of the motor.

This is an early 67 1600.

I'm thinking it might be the throwout bearing. If so, can I drive  
back home (10 miles)? Is this something easy to fix?

Your thought would be greatly appreciated.

Hoon.

From hoon at pixar.com  Thu Feb 28 15:31:08 2008
From: hoon at pixar.com (Hoon Kim)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:31:08 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] clicking noise with clutch
In-Reply-To: <26D31456-0C75-406B-AD91-409B8C0C18CB@pixar.com>
References: <26D31456-0C75-406B-AD91-409B8C0C18CB@pixar.com>
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so more info on further testing.

When I am in neutral or when the clutch is down, there is no noise.
When I release the clutch into 1st, there is a clicking noise that  
matches the movement of the car. This noise is repeated in 2nd and  
3rd gear.
When I have forward momentum and I take my foot off the gas, but  
still in gear, the noise goes away. I comes back as soon as I press  
the accelerator.
Now the weird thing is that there is NO noise in 4th gear at all. I  
did it when going very fast with hard wear on the engine and when on  
the freeway.

Any further guesses?

thanks for all the help so far.

On Feb 28, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Hoon Kim wrote:

> Hello roadster list
>
> It's been a long time, but the rain has stopped temporarily and it is
> nice and sunny out.
>
> After getting a jump to start the car up, my roadster ran just
> fine....till right when I get to work.
>
> That's when a loud clicking noise starts up whenever I engage
> disengage the clutch and the car moves. It works with every gear and
> clicks to the speed of the motor.
>
> This is an early 67 1600.
>
> I'm thinking it might be the throwout bearing. If so, can I drive
> back home (10 miles)? Is this something easy to fix?
>
> Your thought would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Hoon.
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From bubwin at mts.net  Thu Feb 28 16:12:20 2008
From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:12:20 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] clicking noise with clutch
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	<C4F227E5-E0AC-4863-A322-E535E5F3DB92@pixar.com>
Message-ID: <5AF870A11E2C434E930DB4499904FB61@ownerPC>

Sounds a lot like a chipped tooth on the drive side of one of the 
countershaft drive gears, or a bearing in the counter shaft.  These gears 
would have pressure on them when driving in 1,2,3, but not 4th, (assuming a 
4 speed trans) but not when coasting, in neutral or clutch depressed.  In 
4th the counter shaft is just along for the ride, being driven, but not 
under load.  The input and output shafts are locked together in 4th gear.

Bob Winslade
1966-1600 Missy
1967-1600 Bender

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hoon Kim" <hoon at pixar.com>
To: "Roadster mailist" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Cc: "O'Farrell, Fergus" <Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] clicking noise with clutch


> so more info on further testing.
>
> When I am in neutral or when the clutch is down, there is no noise.
> When I release the clutch into 1st, there is a clicking noise that
> matches the movement of the car. This noise is repeated in 2nd and
> 3rd gear.
> When I have forward momentum and I take my foot off the gas, but
> still in gear, the noise goes away. I comes back as soon as I press
> the accelerator.
> Now the weird thing is that there is NO noise in 4th gear at all. I
> did it when going very fast with hard wear on the engine and when on
> the freeway.
>
> Any further guesses?
>
> thanks for all the help so far.
>
> On Feb 28, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Hoon Kim wrote:
>
>> Hello roadster list
>>
>> It's been a long time, but the rain has stopped temporarily and it is
>> nice and sunny out.
>>
>> After getting a jump to start the car up, my roadster ran just
>> fine....till right when I get to work.
>>
>> That's when a loud clicking noise starts up whenever I engage
>> disengage the clutch and the car moves. It works with every gear and
>> clicks to the speed of the motor.
>>
>> This is an early 67 1600.
>>
>> I'm thinking it might be the throwout bearing. If so, can I drive
>> back home (10 miles)? Is this something easy to fix?
>>
>> Your thought would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Hoon.
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>> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>
>> You are subscribed as hoon at pixar.com
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From bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com  Thu Feb 28 16:20:06 2008
From: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com (Brian Hollands)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:20:06 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] clicking noise with clutch
In-Reply-To: <5AF870A11E2C434E930DB4499904FB61@ownerPC>
Message-ID: <20080228232003.SYLF1037.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B>

Yup - definitely a problem in the counter shaft.
The reason there's no noise in 4th gear is that it's a direct drive - no
power and very little thrust forces are being transferred into the counter
shaft.
You can drive it but you'll be further damaging it except when in 4th gear.
Brian Hollands 
69 2000
Tampa, FL


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From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com  Thu Feb 28 17:03:39 2008
From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:03:39 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] clicking noise with clutch
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Message-ID: <47C74BDB.6010307@hornesystemstx.com>

Forget everything I said earlier! I agree with others here, it sounds 
like is something with the counter shaft, probably a bearing or thrust 
washer. Make sure there is enough fluid in the trans and drive it home 
easily, in 4th as much as possible.

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Brian Hollands:
> Yup - definitely a problem in the counter shaft.
> The reason there's no noise in 4th gear is that it's a direct drive - no
> power and very little thrust forces are being transferred into the counter
> shaft.
> You can drive it but you'll be further damaging it except when in 4th gear.
> Brian Hollands 
> 69 2000
> Tampa, FL
>
>
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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Thu Feb 28 19:36:41 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:36:41 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] clicking noise with clutch
In-Reply-To: <26D31456-0C75-406B-AD91-409B8C0C18CB@pixar.com>
Message-ID: <014901c87a7b$eb6fadf0$6700a8c0@chrissy>

Well, you probably drove home by now.  If it happens only when the clutch is
pushed down, regardless if the car is moving or not, it sounds like a finger
on the clutch or the bearing  Throw out bearing is only under load with the
clutch depressed, so a few shifts shouldn't be too bad.  Just keep the RPM
down until you see what's up.  Only way to get a look would be through the
clutch fork rubber boot, not an easy angle without a bore scope.

If it is happening while the car is moving, clutch engaged or disengaged, it
would seem to be in the trans or rear axle.  I would roll the car in
neutral, clutch released, engine on and off, and see if it changes.

Then try it sitting still, in neutral, engine running, move the clutch in
and out, listen for noise.  If there is noise, it isolates it to what is
moving now, engine, clutch assy input shaft, countershaft etc.  It seems to
be one of those things where you need to play with the variables and picture
the system in your mind and narrow the possibilities. []?[]?  Two beer job
at least. And of course, check for the obvious silly embarassing stuff, like
something caught in the fan or a plastic bag wrapped around the driveshaft,
the jumper cables dragging under the car....  :)

Please post what you find.

Dave
ECR

-----Original Message-----
From: Hoon Kim [mailto:hoon at pixar.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 1:53 PM
To: Roadster mailist
Subject: [Roadsters] clicking noise with clutch


Hello roadster list

It's been a long time, but the rain has stopped temporarily and it is
nice and sunny out.

After getting a jump to start the car up, my roadster ran just
fine....till right when I get to work.

That's when a loud clicking noise starts up whenever I engage
disengage the clutch and the car moves. It works with every gear and
clicks to the speed of the motor.

This is an early 67 1600.

I'm thinking it might be the throwout bearing. If so, can I drive
back home (10 miles)? Is this something easy to fix?

Your thought would be greatly appreciated.

Hoon.

From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Thu Feb 28 20:58:33 2008
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (Mike H.)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:58:33 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] clicking noise with clutch
References: <20080228232003.SYLF1037.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B>
	<47C74BDB.6010307@hornesystemstx.com>
Message-ID: <00b901c87a87$5a7a7e90$6500a8c0@lap>

Only a thought,
Assuming it's a 4-speed, when you can, drop the pan on the transmission and
inspect for sloppy movement of the countershaft cluster, and broken or
chipped gears as suggested. IMHO the front thrust washer on the countershaft
in 4-speeds have a poor design. I've had to replace them where they chewed
up the housing in two transmissions. I hope that's not your problem.
Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker / 5-speed


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pat Horne" <roadsters at hornesystemstx.com>
To: "Brian Hollands" <bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com>
Cc: <'Roadster at autox.team.net>; "'O'Farrell, Fergus'"
<Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com>; "mailist'" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] clicking noise with clutch


> Forget everything I said earlier! I agree with others here, it sounds
> like is something with the counter shaft, probably a bearing or thrust
> washer. Make sure there is enough fluid in the trans and drive it home
> easily, in 4th as much as possible.
>
> Peace,
> Pat
>
> Thusly spake Brian Hollands:
> > Yup - definitely a problem in the counter shaft.
> > The reason there's no noise in 4th gear is that it's a direct drive - no
> > power and very little thrust forces are being transferred into the
counter
> > shaft.
> > You can drive it but you'll be further damaging it except when in 4th
gear.
> > Brian Hollands
> > 69 2000
> > Tampa, FL
> >
> >
> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
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2/27/2008
> > 8:35 AM
> >
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From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Thu Feb 28 21:42:35 2008
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (Mike H.)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:42:35 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] clicking noise with clutch
References: <20080228232003.SYLF1037.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B>
	<47C74BDB.6010307@hornesystemstx.com>
Message-ID: <010201c87a8d$81ba5970$6500a8c0@lap>

Only a thought,
Assuming it's a 4-speed, when you can, drop the pan on the transmission and
inspect for sloppy movement of the countershaft cluster, and broken or
chipped gears as suggested. IMHO the front thrust washer on the countershaft
in 4-speeds have a poor design. I've had to replace them where they chewed
up the housing in two transmissions. I hope that's not your problem.

Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker / 5-speed


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pat Horne" <roadsters at hornesystemstx.com>
To: "Brian Hollands" <bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com>
Cc: <'Roadster at autox.team.net>; "'O'Farrell, Fergus'"
<Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com>; "mailist'" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] clicking noise with clutch


> Forget everything I said earlier! I agree with others here, it sounds
> like is something with the counter shaft, probably a bearing or thrust
> washer. Make sure there is enough fluid in the trans and drive it home
> easily, in 4th as much as possible.
>
> Peace,
> Pat
>
> Thusly spake Brian Hollands:
> > Yup - definitely a problem in the counter shaft.
> > The reason there's no noise in 4th gear is that it's a direct drive - no
> > power and very little thrust forces are being transferred into the
counter
> > shaft.
> > You can drive it but you'll be further damaging it except when in 4th
gear.
> > Brian Hollands
> > 69 2000
> > Tampa, FL
> >
> >
> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1301 - Release Date:
2/27/2008
> > 8:35 AM
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
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From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Fri Feb 29 16:17:10 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:17:10 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] bounce sheets
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And cat hair is finer than dog hair. I have enough problems getting THAT out
of my carpet. Got's to have a co-pilot tho!
Matt

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On Behalf Of ppeters914 at comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 4:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [Roadsters] bounce sheets

Not so easy considering last year's thread about getting cat pee out of the
carpets....

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> Easy solution. Get a cat.
> 
> Larry
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From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Fri Feb 29 16:35:00 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:35:00 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 160 MPH speedo.
Message-ID: <E1JVEkf-0003Ke-C1@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

While this may be a silly question, where did the 160 MPH speedos come from?

From BARTERDUDE at aol.com  Fri Feb 29 16:43:37 2008
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Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:43:37 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] 160 MPH speedo.
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Feb 29 16:49:33 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:49:33 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] 160 MPH speedo.
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Umm....Japan?

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From sandhoff at csus.edu  Fri Feb 29 16:52:19 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:52:19 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 160 MPH speedo.
In-Reply-To: <E1JVEkf-0003Ke-C1@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <47C82A33.30715.1685954@localhost>

> ...where did the 160 MPH speedos come from?

Low screen or high screen?

There's some contention, but the most accurate answer seems
to be 'the factory parts bin' :-) That is, whatever was available on
the day the car was built...

For the high screen cars, one line of thinking is that the 160 speedo
came with solex-equipped 2L models, but they've also shown up in
SU powered cars.

If I put a 160 speedo in my car, will it go faster? :-)

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Fri Feb 29 17:03:07 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:03:07 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 160 MPH speedo.
In-Reply-To: <022920082349.10082.47C89A0D0007A90E000027622200737478CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>
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I was right... Ask a silly question; get ALL KINDS of silly answers. Maybe I
should clarify.

Which cars, models, years... SPECIFICALLY came (or had an option for) the
160 MPH Speedo? Was it a "NISMO" part, i.e. aftermarket? 
You guys crack me up!!!!!
Matt

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Fri Feb 29 17:16:08 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:16:08 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 160 MPH speedo.
In-Reply-To: <47C82A33.30715.1685954@localhost>
Message-ID: <E1JVFOT-0006Wq-G5@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Oops. 
Sorry John. Your reply was in my 'suspect email' bin. I don't even WANT to
know why!!! HAHAHAHA! 
Part of the reason I'm asking is that Loreli is, and as near as I can tell
from the records I have, always has been, a 70' 2000 Solex roadster. She has
a 140 speedo. Because my speedo is 20% off (higher than actual), I've buried
it more than once. It was fun, but I knew it wasn't true. If I'd had balls
to reach for my camera at 115+, I'd have taken a picture of it! I cannot
believe the "books" that say this car has 126 MPH top speed. I was only at
5800 RPM in 5th and my foot was DEFINITELY not on the floor!

The answer is yes... if I put a 160 MPH speedo in my car... it MOST
DEFINITELY will go faster! LMAO!
Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: John F Sandhoff [mailto:sandhoff at csus.edu] 
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 6:52 PM
To: Matthew A. Smith
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: 160 MPH speedo.


> ...where did the 160 MPH speedos come from?

Low screen or high screen?

There's some contention, but the most accurate answer seems
to be 'the factory parts bin' :-) That is, whatever was available on
the day the car was built...

For the high screen cars, one line of thinking is that the 160 speedo
came with solex-equipped 2L models, but they've also shown up in
SU powered cars.

If I put a 160 speedo in my car, will it go faster? :-)

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Fri Feb 29 17:18:43 2008
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (Mike H.)
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:18:43 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] 160 MPH speedo.
References: <E1JVFBs-0003oy-MQ@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <00a701c87b31$cf7144e0$6500a8c0@lap>

According to Rallye Enterprises, Ltd's website/catalog, he specifies it is
for the 67 1/2 2000. I don't know if thats true, check it out or call him.
http://www.datsunroadster.com/SUB_SECTION_DIRECTORIES/gauges.htm

Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker / 5-speed

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matthew A. Smith" <matthews517 at earthlink.net>
To: <ppeters914 at comcast.net>; <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 160 MPH speedo.


> I was right... Ask a silly question; get ALL KINDS of silly answers. Maybe
I
> should clarify.
>
> Which cars, models, years... SPECIFICALLY came (or had an option for) the
> 160 MPH Speedo? Was it a "NISMO" part, i.e. aftermarket?
> You guys crack me up!!!!!
> Matt
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From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com  Fri Feb 29 17:17:29 2008
From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison)
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:17:29 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 160 MPH speedo.
In-Reply-To: <022920082349.10082.47C89A0D0007A90E000027622200737478CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>
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Leondardo da Vinci invented the 160 mph speedometer in the year 1498,
however, he failed to invent a 160 mph car so it went largely unnoticed.
;-)

Have a great weekend!

Greg
SRL31100494


On 2/29/08 3:49 PM, "ppeters914 at comcast.net" <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Umm....Japan?
> 
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
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>> While this may be a silly question, where did the 160 MPH speedos come from?
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From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Fri Feb 29 18:00:33 2008
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:00:33 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 160 MPH speedo.
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Well I don't know about the rest of but Greg Morrison's answer makes the
most sense to me.

Great Driving weather this weekend.  Sunday will be a Topless day fo rme,
maybe for the car too.



On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Gregory S. Morrison <
gsm at gregorysmorrison.com> wrote:

> Leondardo da Vinci invented the 160 mph speedometer in the year 1498,
> however, he failed to invent a 160 mph car so it went largely unnoticed.
> ;-)
>
> Have a great weekend!
>
> Greg
> SRL31100494
>
>
> On 2/29/08 3:49 PM, "ppeters914 at comcast.net" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Umm....Japan?
> >
> >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: "Matthew A. Smith" <matthews517 at earthlink.net>
> >> While this may be a silly question, where did the 160 MPH speedos come
> from?
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This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one.

From datrock at centurytel.net  Fri Feb 29 18:08:56 2008
From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole)
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:08:56 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 160 MPH speedo.
In-Reply-To: <E1JVFBs-0003oy-MQ@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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As for the late model cars, I believe the 68 2000 came with a 160MPH 
speedometer, 69 and 70 2000's had the 140 speedometer.  Bill

From dgstoll at verizon.net  Fri Feb 29 18:29:55 2008
From: dgstoll at verizon.net (Dave Stoll)
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:29:55 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 160 MPH speedo.
References: <E1JVEkf-0003Ke-C1@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <001b01c87b3b$c1a2fbb0$2e01a8c0@default>

and to follow up, is the 160 interchangable with the 140 and still be 
accurate?
or do you need to change some gearing at the transmission?
daveS
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Subject: [Roadsters] 160 MPH speedo.


> While this may be a silly question, where did the 160 MPH speedos come 
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From fred.davidson at sympatico.ca  Fri Feb 29 20:09:00 2008
From: fred.davidson at sympatico.ca (Fred Davidson)
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:09:00 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 160mph Speedometers
Message-ID: <000601c87b49$9d20ca20$6076e2d1@DDBHLZ81>

Hi Folks:



Most, if not all 1968 2000 roadsters in Canada came with 160 speedos,
solexes, B cam, aluminum oil pan. The 160 speedos have the chrome ring in
the center.  The 67 =  2000 of course also had a 160 mph speedo.



Fred



1969 SRL 311

Ontario, Canada

From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Fri Feb 29 21:07:00 2008
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (Mike H.)
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:07:00 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] 160 MPH speedo.
References: <E1JVEkf-0003Ke-C1@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<001b01c87b3b$c1a2fbb0$2e01a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <00c701c87b52$748e80d0$6500a8c0@lap>

While we're on the subject of tachs and speedos, will the late ('68 on)
tachs and speedos fit the holes of the earlier ('66 & '67) dashes? I know
the mounting is different, just want to know if they're the same diameter
fitment.

Mike Hudson  '67n Stroker / 5-s[eed


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Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 160 MPH speedo.


> and to follow up, is the 160 interchangable with the 140 and still be
> accurate?
> or do you need to change some gearing at the transmission?
> daveS
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