From sandhoff at csus.edu  Fri Aug  1 00:26:19 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:26:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] What year is my car?
In-Reply-To: <C4B7C86F.FE48%chuckkyle@mac.com>
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> So I think my Datsun is somewhere between a 66 and a 68.  Based on the
> serial number (SPL311-18896)... the body is a 68... The engine block
> number is R05076...

Overwhelming likelihood is that the engine was swapped at some point.
Most of the 'drivers' have been, sometimes several times.

I didn't look at the picture, but if the dash is flat metal and
the mirror is attached to a pedestal on the dash, the body is before
1968. Two top latches as well. 68 and newer, the dash is padded
(gauges are recessed), clock is rectangular, not circular, mirror
clips onto the third top hinge in the center of the windshield
frame.

If the VIN plate is still there - hopefully it is or most DMV's
get pretty upset - the original engine number is stamped into the
plate. I'm betting your plate has a much higher number stamped
on it than what's in the car.

The frame VIN is located on the left frame rail, top surface,
slightly behind the steering box (LH cars) or idler (RH cars).
Likely obscured by grease and grime.

Who knows - maybe you have a '66 that was rebodied. On the rear
axle, right side, do you have the torque rod - attaches to a
perch welded onto the axle housing, and a perch welded to the
frame? '66 didn't have that, '68 did. I think it showed up
starting 67 half year but don't quote me.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu  Sacramento, CA

From sandhoff at csus.edu  Fri Aug  1 00:40:57 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:40:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] The cross country discussion has me thinking...
In-Reply-To: <D593D1813D0B429C98A55E5FEDBB134C@wilhouse>
References: <D593D1813D0B429C98A55E5FEDBB134C@wilhouse>
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> I have always been hesitant to drive my '67 1600 for too long on the
> interstate.  I've done it, but at 70-ish it is turning 3500 rpm or so.

The R16 hits max torque somewhere about 4100 rpm. Best fuel economy is
around 3200-3600. This according to the factory shop manual.
(2L top torque roughly about 4200 SU and 4800 Solex.)

My 2L turns 4k at 80mph oops I mean 3k at 60mph in 5th. My 1600
spins a little faster 'cause I don't have the extra gear. Four bangers
want to rev to make power, so 3500 is probably just waking it up.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu  Sacramento, CA

From RWM at RWMann.com  Fri Aug  1 04:41:00 2008
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM (Out of the Office))
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:41:00 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Side mirrors
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Only if it's dry...


Pete Peters wrote:

>Lucas mirrors? Do they work at night? <g>
>
>Pete "I crack myself up"
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" <aultgc at att.net>
>  
>
>>Greg,
>>
>>I put Lucas wing mirrors (available from Moss Motors) on my '66, and am 
>>happy with them.  If you want a picture, let me know.
>>
>>Gary Ault
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: <gregs672liter at netzero.net>
>>To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>>Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:26 PM
>>Subject: [Roadsters] Side mirrors
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>>OK gang, I am happy to say that I think all major body work is FINALLY 
>>>done on
>>>the '67, and I may just get it in primer by Monday (yeah!).  I am looking 
>>>for
>>>new side mirrors and asking for suggestions.  I used to have "baby turbo"
>>>mirrors on it, which I liked but they did not work particularly well and
>>>tended to giggle a lot.  I'm looking for some alternatives that people 
>>>have
>>>liked (reasonably priced).  Mirrors will be on both sides.  My car as most 
>>>of
>>>you know is not stock, so I am open to just about anything that looks good 
>>>and
>>>actually works.
>>>Thanks!
>>>Greg Burrows
>>>67 2000
>>>Bonney Lake, WA

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Fri Aug  1 04:46:20 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 06:46:20 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters]  The cross country discussion has me thinking...
Message-ID: <000101c8f3c3$d7b89670$8729c350$@net>

  If it bothers you and you normally drive freeways, you could swap out the
ring & pinion for a 3.70 set of gears from a 2000.  That would slow down the
motor a little bit.

Paul
Ohio

----- Original message ----------------------
From: "Ken & Tammy Williams" <wilhouse at charter.net>
> Hey guys and gals.  The current discussion about driving across the
country in
> a roadster brought up a question.  Maybe showing my ignorance, but here
goes.
> I have always been hesitant to drive my '67 1600 for too long on the
> interstate.  I've done it, but at 70-ish it is turning 3500 rpm or so.  Is
> that okay???  I'm a little bit of a wimp maybe??  Definitely too little of
a
> mechanic to know for sure.
> Thanks,
> Ken

From chalsted at comcast.net  Fri Aug  1 05:07:13 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:07:13 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] The cross country discussion has me thinking...
References: <D593D1813D0B429C98A55E5FEDBB134C@wilhouse>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807312329150.1191@netserv.csus.edu>
Message-ID: <013a01c8f3c6$c0d72ae0$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

I always have been under the impression that you can pull about 105 out of 
3rd gear in a well tuned 2000 with it's original 3.7... only on a road 
course of course ;-)  never have ridden with Victor but I have a feeling we 
both have similar fun driving. y'all should stop by and take a fun run on 
some of the roads near my place one of these days   :-)  don't wait too 
long...I'm really missing my blue roadster Phil got from me, it ran and 
"cranked" better than any other roadster I've ever owned after I finished 
working on it. wasn't too hurtful to the eye, either. have heard he might be 
willing to part with it.... I don't have the bucks but it's one heck of a 
good car. #292.
Craig
Datsun Roadsters mostly...
http://community.webshots.com/user/672000

From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov  Fri Aug  1 06:29:18 2008
From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03))
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:29:18 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Side mirrors
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 Last night I mounted two new mirrors on my 67.  The original was pretty
fogged up.  I used the talbet type mirrors from Moss and mounted them in
the stock location on the doors (drivers door is stock - new holes in
right door).  Location was a tough one - I really like this mirror on
the fender but had the holes in the door to deal with.  Another issue is
"usability".  The stock '66 fender location is nice but hard to see
through.  The door location is better, but it makes the right side not
very useful.  I have been messing with Roadsters for 30 years and I have
never found a perfect location (that looks good) for mirrors.

The good part.  I also replaced the posts and new door handles (with new
gaskets) so the doors look great now!

Phil
SEROC

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:04 PM
To: ljordan704 at netscape.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Side mirrors

Which vendor sells the mirrors that were stock on these cars? I am
referring to the style mirror on the cars that had two mirrors mounted
on the fenders.


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote:

=============
 Here's a link to some MG mirrors and stuff that can be used on our car:
http://bhive.tierranet.com/412MGBexteriormirros.htm

Linda

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Fri Aug  1 06:37:54 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:37:54 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] one more part!
In-Reply-To: <002801c8f318$7bba22e0$6415a8c0@garage.local>
Message-ID: <E1KOttI-0006Oi-7M@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Whatever it is, get it off the tablecloth before your wife sees it!

Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Oliver
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:20 AM
To: Datsun Club
Subject: [Roadsters] one more part!

First of all, many thanks to Gordon, Henry, and Enrique!  I never would have

figured out the convertible top part or where it goes.

hopefully i'm set for a while after i find out what's this???

www.ranteer.com/misc1

From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Fri Aug  1 07:25:27 2008
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:25:27 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] CL in LA Datsuns
Message-ID: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755DE2A088@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>

Saw these today, no connection to sellers.
68 1600, $3100
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/car/776641614.html

65, $1500, ready for resto or driver
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/car/776252670.html

67 1600, $1500, definitely ready for resto
Claims to be early with late hardtop, but top looks tilted upwards, like
it is a 68 with and early hardtop.  Dash looks roundy too, not flat.
But, CA titledd cars when you bought them, not by model year, so a
December purchase of a '68 always reads '67, you can't change the year.
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/car/771462868.html

From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Fri Aug  1 09:22:23 2008
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:22:23 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Cross-Country, have I lost my mind?
Message-ID: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755DE2A215@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>

Nathan,
Insane?  Not even close.  You have an opportunity for a higher level of
"Roadster Merit Badge".
While all suggestions concerning comfort are well advised, (my
recommendation is ear plugs and a wide brimmed hat) I recently did the
Iron Bottom, which for me was 1250 miles door-to-door in 3 days, and
have nowhere near the mechanical expertise of the Young/Petty duo.
(approx single digit % of the knowledge only ONE of them carries on the
road)
I think the key is knowing your car, so you are aware of changes along
the way, and carry the spares (like Keith's list) accordingly.  I only
wish my mechanicals were as recently rebuilt as yours.  I took my ramps
to the car wash and pressure-washed the drivetrain and underside, so
that I could easily tell if something "new" appeared.
Take notes, we look forward to a good write-up!
Fergus O, 69 2000, HB, CA

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Fri Aug  1 09:26:38 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:26:38 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Cross Country, have I lost my mind?
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Message-ID: <BAY106-W5EAA8762216B06F37E6C8DF7F0@phx.gbl>

Nathaniel

Towards the end of last year, I drove my 70 1600 from LA to DC and back -
total of 8700+ miles and about 5 weeks. Engine was rebuilt 20K miles earlier.
Problems - clogged fuel filter, and the driver side door winder broke.

I took mostly back roads and found the @200 mile range perfectly sufficient.

Granted I had a five speed box installed, but IMHO 70 at 3500 is a doddle for
these cars.

Have fun, let us know when you are planning to arrive and maybe we can
organise a meting or something.

Just go for it and have fun.

Peter



> From: nmleeds at mindspring.com> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date:
Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:12:13 -0700> Subject: [Roadsters] Cross Country, have I
lost my mind?> > I'm planning a Colorado to California shot in the old '69
2000 and am> wondering if I've lost my mind. Everything's rebuilt and new, and
we've> driven the 500 miles breaking-in period without recent major incident.
And> now its time to test fate.> > My preference is to take Highway 50 across
the desert to stay away from the> big trucks on the 80, but I'm worried about
whether running the car all-out> for 500 miles is such a smart thing to do in
a part of the country where gas> stations are few and Datsun even fewer.> >
Had anyone done this, or similar drives in their cars. What's happened, what>
breaks, and what advise to you have for someone who's probably to boneheaded>
to take it?> > Nathaniel Leeds> '69 2000, SU>
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From matt at vander-bend.com  Fri Aug  1 09:32:28 2008
From: matt at vander-bend.com (Matt Jacquet)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:32:28 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] What year is my car?
In-Reply-To: <C4B7C86F.FE48%chuckkyle@mac.com>
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I'd say 68

Matt Jacquet
spl311-18900

here's a picture of it's little brother


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Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:52 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] What year is my car?


Hello all,

So I think my Datsun is somewhere between a 66 and a 68.  Based on the
serial number (SPL311-18896) and descriptions that I have read online, I
defiantly think the body is a 68, high windshield.  Now the engine might be
something different.  How can I tell?  The engine block number is R05076 and
the oil filter is the old canister type not the screw on, so is this a 66?

Any thoughts?

Chuck


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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Fri Aug  1 10:00:55 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:00:55 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Cross Country, have I lost my mind?
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Nathaniel
Didn't notice you were driving a 2000. Surely at 3500 in 5th you should be
doing more than 70. 4th should give you 20mph for each 1000 rpm and 5th about
25 or so. Even with 14" wheels I was getting about 80 in 5th.

Peter

If you want any tips - please feel free to give me a call.

818 448 3181



> From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:26:38 -0700> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cross Country,
have I lost my mind?> > Nathaniel> > Towards the end of last year, I drove my
70 1600 from LA to DC and back -> total of 8700+ miles and about 5 weeks.
Engine was rebuilt 20K miles earlier.> Problems - clogged fuel filter, and the
driver side door winder broke.> > I took mostly back roads and found the @200
mile range perfectly sufficient.> > Granted I had a five speed box installed,
but IMHO 70 at 3500 is a doddle for> these cars.> > Have fun, let us know when
you are planning to arrive and maybe we can> organise a meting or something.>
> Just go for it and have fun.> > Peter> > > > > From: nmleeds at mindspring.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date:> Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:12:13 -0700>
Subject: [Roadsters] Cross Country, have I> lost my mind?> > I'm planning a
Colorado to California shot in the old '69> 2000 and am> wondering if I've
lost my mind. Everything's rebuilt and new, and> we've> driven the 500 miles
breaking-in period without recent major incident.> And> now its time to test
fate.> > My preference is to take Highway 50 across> the desert to stay away
from the> big trucks on the 80, but I'm worried about> whether running the car
all-out> for 500 miles is such a smart thing to do in> a part of the country
where gas> stations are few and Datsun even fewer.> >> Had anyone done this,
or similar drives in their cars. What's happened, what>> breaks, and what
advise to you have for someone who's probably to boneheaded>> to take it?> >
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From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Fri Aug  1 10:26:38 2008
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:26:38 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] And another Datsun based kit car on CL
Message-ID: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755DE2A2DF@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>

Now here's an unusual piece.  Too bad he didn't leave it U-20 powered.
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/car/777671581.html

From steve at olsonarchitect.com  Fri Aug  1 10:38:45 2008
From: steve at olsonarchitect.com (Stephen Wan)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:38:45 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] And another Datsun based kit car on CL
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" 


> Now here's an unusual piece.  Too bad he didn't leave it U-20 powered.
> http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/car/777671581.html
> ________________________________________

Had he done that, he wouldn't have to have it smogged.

Steve
70' 1600 

From gregs672liter at netzero.net  Fri Aug  1 10:41:37 2008
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:41:37 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] And another Datsun based kit car on CL
Message-ID: <20080801.094137.18507.1@webmail23.vgs.untd.com>

Kinda cool.  I don't know much about the 2TC engine, but I had a friend who
had a 3TC in his Corolla... that was a fairly good motor.  Had a Hemi head,
and believe it or not, B&M made a supercharger for it years ago.  My friend's
had a radically stupid cam in his for awhile... came on at about 4000rpms, but
man, after that it really hit hard.  Was horrible on the street though and he
eventually went back to stock.
Greg Burrows

-- "O'Farrell, Fergus" <Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com> wrote:
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From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Fri Aug  1 10:57:15 2008
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:57:15 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] And another Datsun based kit car on CL
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The 2TC engine was used in the earlier Corolla's mid-late '70's. Nice little
engine I thought. I enjoyed mine.

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> Kinda cool.  I don't know much about the 2TC engine, but I had a friend who
> had a 3TC in his Corolla... that was a fairly good motor.  Had a Hemi head,
> and believe it or not, B&M made a supercharger for it years ago.  My
> friend's
> had a radically stupid cam in his for awhile... came on at about 4000rpms,
> but
> man, after that it really hit hard.  Was horrible on the street though and
> he
> eventually went back to stock.
> Greg Burrows
>
> -- "O'Farrell, Fergus" <Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com> wrote:
> Now here's an unusual piece.  Too bad he didn't leave it U-20 powered.
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------------------------------------------------------
This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one.

If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky
enough.

From stamuki at gmail.com  Fri Aug  1 11:06:12 2008
From: stamuki at gmail.com (D Riedel)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:06:12 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Great road trips
Message-ID: <ae1f75970808011006q5750baa0q895ac1efa7119c19@mail.gmail.com>

So these cross-country discussions, with references to old highways
like US 50, got me wondering.  What are some of the great road trip
roads in North America?  My particular interest would be the
Northwest, but I'd like to hear about anywhere.

-- 
Dave Riedel
'69 2000
Victoria, BC

From ktmaustin at sbcglobal.net  Fri Aug  1 11:20:38 2008
From: ktmaustin at sbcglobal.net (Kevin McDonald)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:20:38 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Great road trips
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "D Riedel" <stamuki at gmail.com>


> So these cross-country discussions, with references to old highways
> like US 50, got me wondering.  What are some of the great road trip
> roads in North America?  My particular interest would be the
> Northwest, but I'd like to hear about anywhere.

That could be a lot of roads!
North America currently consists of:

Antigua and Barbuda
The Bahamas
Barbados
Belize
Canada
Costa Rica
Cuba
Dominica
Dominican Republic
El Salvador
Greenland (Kalaallit Nunaat)
Grenada
Guatemala
Haiti
Honduras
Jamaica
Mexico
Nicaragua
Panama
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Trinidad and Tobago
United States of America

Just kidding around.
Kevin

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Fri Aug  1 11:22:58 2008
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:22:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Great road trips
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Tail of the Dragon at Deals Gap and Cherohala Skyway, Graham Co, NC 
   
  incredible road - was there about two years ago; am going back in september

D Riedel <stamuki at gmail.com> wrote:
  So these cross-country discussions, with references to old highways
like US 50, got me wondering. What are some of the great road trip
roads in North America? My particular interest would be the
Northwest, but I'd like to hear about anywhere.

-- 
Dave Riedel
'69 2000
Victoria, BC

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Fri Aug  1 11:39:03 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:39:03 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] CL in LA Datsuns
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  A '68 with '69 side lights?

Paul
Ohio

-----Original Message-----

Saw these today, no connection to sellers.
68 1600, $3100
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/car/776641614.html

From pete_303 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  1 11:40:05 2008
From: pete_303 at yahoo.com (matthew peterson)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:40:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Starter Problem Continued
Message-ID: <669197.30698.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi all,
Thanks to everyone for all the responses.  I've got a better
understanding of how the bendix works now.
Last night I took the starter off
the engine and engaged it by jumping the two posts on the solenoid.  The first
few times I did it the gear never flung out.  After 5-6 times of doing this it
started to move and eventually it started to fling out right as I jumped the
posts.  So I put it back on and tried it and now it sounds like the bendix
gear is touching the flywheel teeth then backing off.  I hear a slight
grinding/rubbing sound for a split second then it just whirs.  So my question
is, should the bendix gear be spinning full speed the whole time or should it
speed up after it engages the flywheel?  Mine starts spinning very fast before
it flings out.  Could this be the reason it's not engaging the flywheel
teeth?  It seems to me that if it's spinning that fast that it wouldn't have a
chance to engage the flywheel and would just grind against the teeth then pull
back.
Any thoughts?
Matt Peterson

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Fri Aug  1 11:58:46 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:58:46 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Great road trips, OH to VA
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	<797712.36698.qm@web82804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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  Try Route 250 from New Philly, Ohio through West Virginia and down to
Staunton, Virginia.  Just make sure your brakes are in good working order.
There is a State Trooper that hangs out around Lake Tappan in Ohio that just
loves to stop red roadsters (Ask Teddy Seidenfeld!).  And the Blue Plate
dinner, just south of Hundreds, WV, serves great hot cakes and a good cup of
coffee.  A great ride over the mountains!

Paul
Ohio



-----Original Message-----

D Riedel <stamuki at gmail.com> wrote:
  So these cross-country discussions, with references to old highways
like US 50, got me wondering. What are some of the great road trip
roads in North America? My particular interest would be the
Northwest, but I'd like to hear about anywhere.

-- 
Dave Riedel
'69 2000
Victoria, BC

From sandhoff at csus.edu  Fri Aug  1 12:11:37 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:11:37 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Starter Problem Continued
In-Reply-To: <669197.30698.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4892EF69.26382.632C5D@localhost>

> ...my question is, should the bendix gear be spinning full speed the
> whole time or should it speed up after it engages the flywheel?...
>
> Any thoughts?

Yeah - something's broken :-)

The solenoid has two purposes: To engage the bendix, and to
turn on the starter. It's an electromagnetic plunger - it's a coil
of wire and when you apply power to it, it pulls in a metal rod
that's attached via a fork (like your clutch fork, kinda) that pushes
the bendix gear out and into engagement with the flywheel. As
the rod bottoms out, it presses a graphite disk against two hefty
contacts and applies power to the starter windings.

So if everything is OK, the starter shouldn't spin until the gear
extends into the nose.

I'm thinking there's something broken with the fork, or maybe the
pivot pin that retains the fork is bent or broken.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From chalsted at comcast.net  Fri Aug  1 12:15:46 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:15:46 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Great road trips, OH to VA
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	<001a01c8f400$428a33f0$c79e9bd0$@net>
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and if you're that close, better darn come over and visit me- I'm only 60 
miles from Staunton open invitation :-)
Craig

From stamuki at gmail.com  Fri Aug  1 12:54:32 2008
From: stamuki at gmail.com (D Riedel)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:54:32 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Great road trips, OH to VA
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Good stuff, Paul.  Since I started the thread, I'll add a trip...

Vancouver to 100 Mile House, BC:
>From Mission, take Lougheed Hwy 7 along the north side of the Fraser
River to Hope.  Proceed north through the Fraser Canyon to Cache
Creek.  Then continue north on Hwy 97 to 100 Mile House.  In a single
day's drive (~450km), you pass from farmland valley into a steep
mountainous canyon, into semi-arid desert, and finally on to
ranch-land plateau.  The change in scenery and vegetation is
remarkable, plus you get the twists and turns of the canyon road.

I put the route through to 100 Mile because it gives you an
interesting option on return:  the Hwy 24 cutoff over the mountain
between Lone Butte and Little Fort which gets you to Yellowhead Hwy 5.
 From there, it's a scenic drive along the North Thompson south into
Kamloops where you have a few choices on how to get back to Vancouver.

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote:
>  Try Route 250 from New Philly, Ohio through West Virginia and down to
> Staunton, Virginia.  Just make sure your brakes are in good working order.
> There is a State Trooper that hangs out around Lake Tappan in Ohio that just
> loves to stop red roadsters (Ask Teddy Seidenfeld!).  And the Blue Plate
> dinner, just south of Hundreds, WV, serves great hot cakes and a good cup of
> coffee.  A great ride over the mountains!
>
> Paul
> Ohio
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> D Riedel <stamuki at gmail.com> wrote:
>  So these cross-country discussions, with references to old highways
> like US 50, got me wondering. What are some of the great road trip
> roads in North America? My particular interest would be the
> Northwest, but I'd like to hear about anywhere.
>
> --
> Dave Riedel
> '69 2000
> Victoria, BC
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'69 2000
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From teddy at stat.cmu.edu  Fri Aug  1 12:55:26 2008
From: teddy at stat.cmu.edu (Teddy)
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:55:26 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Great road trips, OH to VA
Message-ID: <48935C1E.1060000@stat.cmu.edu>

Dear Oliver,

About that scenic stretch of 55 mph Ohio Rt 250 by Tappan Lake, to which 
Paul righlty alerts you, it's not exactly that there is a particular 
State Trooper with interests in Roadsters there, rather that seems to be 
the radar training spot for Ohio's best.  Many times when I go through 
(driving between our race-team's garage in Canton OH and Pittsburgh, 
where I live) I get stopped by yet another rookie trooper who issues me 
a "warning" and, by the way, wants to see what's under the hood!

Best,
Teddy
69 2000 -- my daily in Pittsburgh
Sloan-Alexander Datsun racing (crew and occasional driver) -- Canton


> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:58:46 -0400
> From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net>
> Subject: [Roadsters] Great road trips, OH to VA
> To: "'oliver'" <sumton at sbcglobal.net>,
> 	<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Message-ID: <001a01c8f400$428a33f0$c79e9bd0$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>   Try Route 250 from New Philly, Ohio through West Virginia and down to
> Staunton, Virginia.  Just make sure your brakes are in good working order.
> There is a State Trooper that hangs out around Lake Tappan in Ohio that just
> loves to stop red roadsters (Ask Teddy Seidenfeld!).  And the Blue Plate
> dinner, just south of Hundreds, WV, serves great hot cakes and a good cup of
> coffee.  A great ride over the mountains!
>
> Paul
> Ohio

From 12061997 at comcast.net  Fri Aug  1 13:34:22 2008
From: 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana)
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:34:22 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] jack hole plugs
Message-ID: <080120081934.24409.4893653E00017C3000005F592209229927C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net>

Hi list, I am looking for a couple of jack hole plugs for my 67-1600....Anyone have any for sale? Speaking of great road trips. I took my honeymoon in a  67-1600 in June of 1968 from Missouri to Virginia.....Not a bad trip!...bob

From 12061997 at comcast.net  Fri Aug  1 13:34:22 2008
From: 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana)
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:34:22 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] jack hole plugs
Message-ID: <080120081934.24409.4893653E00017C3000005F592209229927C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net>

Hi list, I am looking for a couple of jack hole plugs for my 67-1600....Anyone have any for sale? Speaking of great road trips. I took my honeymoon in a  67-1600 in June of 1968 from Missouri to Virginia.....Not a bad trip!...bob

From chalsted at comcast.net  Fri Aug  1 14:24:50 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:24:50 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Great road trips, OH to VA
References: <ae1f75970808011006q5750baa0q895ac1efa7119c19@mail.gmail.com><797712.36698.qm@web82804.mail.mud.yahoo.com><001a01c8f400$428a33f0$c79e9bd0$@net>
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why not just do an Al-Can highway trip and ferry back down from Ak?  was 
dirt road the last time I did that trip.
Craig
Datsun Roadsters mostly...
http://community.webshots.com/user/672000

From chalsted at comcast.net  Fri Aug  1 14:28:00 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:28:00 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] roadtrips again
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we did our honeymoon in 1991 in a roadster, 3400 miles round trip from 
Virginia up to Bar Harbor and Acadia in Maine, drove up Cadillac mountain. 
great trip, only breakdown was one of the carb return springs broke and it 
revved up... stole one from a ball point pen and stretched it to get to my 
next stop.
Craig
Datsun Roadsters mostly...
http://community.webshots.com/user/672000

From gregs672liter at netzero.net  Fri Aug  1 14:29:01 2008
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 20:29:01 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] Great road trips
Message-ID: <20080801.132901.8965.1@webmail09.vgs.untd.com>

The back side entrance to Mt St Helens, specifically the southern road up from
Cougar... truly awesome, twisty turny smooth road.  Then you get to turn off
to the road that leads to St Helens... the view will blow your mind (and that
road is fun to drive fast too if clear).  The northern part of the road is
nice but bouncy... literally caught air on one unexpected bump.  Had to get
out and check the car!  I would drive south on I5 past the mountain, then turn
east on the road that leads to Cougar and go back north.  When the paint is
done on the Blaster, that is one trip I plan to do if summer is still here.
If anyone wants to tag along, I will post it!
The access road to the western side of St Helens is not nearly as good btw.
Although I did learn some interesting facts at the ranger station there.  For
example, if you had been standing at that station when St Helens blew up,
holding a hoop that was 1 meter in diameter, 2000lbs of material would have
been flying through that hoop every second... ya, your car, through the hoop,
every second.
Greg Burrows
67 2000
Bonney Lake, WA

-- oliver <sumton at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Tail of the Dragon at Deals Gap and Cherohala Skyway, Graham Co, NC

 incredible road - was there about two years ago; am going back in september

D Riedel <stamuki at gmail.com> wrote:
 So these cross-country discussions, with references to old highways
like US 50, got me wondering. What are some of the great road trip
roads in North America? My particular interest would be the
Northwest, but I'd like to hear about anywhere.

--
Dave Riedel
'69 2000
Victoria, BC
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From stamuki at gmail.com  Fri Aug  1 14:52:06 2008
From: stamuki at gmail.com (D Riedel)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:52:06 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Great road trips, OH to VA
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The Top of the World highway through Fairbanks is supposedly
spectacular.  I don't know about the condition of the road for a
roadster, though.  Did you pass through that way Craig, or did you
take the more southerly route to Anchorage?

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:24 PM, chalsted <chalsted at comcast.net> wrote:
> why not just do an Al-Can highway trip and ferry back down from Ak?  was
> dirt road the last time I did that trip.
> Craig
> Datsun Roadsters mostly...
> http://community.webshots.com/user/672000
>
>



-- 
Dave Riedel
'69 2000
Victoria, BC

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Fri Aug  1 16:13:05 2008
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:13:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] jack hole plugs
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anyone found a good substitute?

"Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana" <12061997 at comcast.net> wrote:  Hi list, I am looking for a couple of jack hole plugs for my 67-1600....Anyone have any for sale?

From chalsted at comcast.net  Fri Aug  1 16:39:07 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 18:39:07 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw:] Great road trips, OH to VA
Message-ID: <028f01c8f427$690e5cf0$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

> we went up through Fairbanks on our way back down from Alaska- then all 
> the way down the coast to southern Ca and dropped my travel companions off 
> in Tucson on the way back to upstate NY   quit smoking cigarettes up at 
> Wonder Lake in Mt. McKinley Park- awe inspiring! parking meters in 
> Fairbanks had electrical outlets in them for plugging in the block heaters 
> in the winter up there. stop at Liard Springs if you go out the Al-Can, 
> somewhere around mile marker 310 I think. go about 1/4 mile out past the 
> main hot pool and there's a more secluded, private one. you might end up 
> sharing it with a moose and they're BIG up there, or a few mosquitoes 
> which are about the size of Mayflies and they kid about them carrying you 
> off.. lived in Alaska one summer, one of my grand adventures :-)
> Craig
> Datsun Roadsters mostly...
> http://community.webshots.com/user/672000

From jrdmf at aol.com  Fri Aug  1 17:49:55 2008
From: jrdmf at aol.com (jrdmf at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:49:55 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] jack hole plugs
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Sure have..... Weld up holes and paint to match car. :-)



Jon Frampton

Huntington Beach Ca


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Sent: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 3:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] jack hole plugs




anyone found a good substitute?

"Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana" <12061997 at comcast.net> wrote:  Hi list, I am 
looking for a couple of jack hole plugs for my 67-1600....Anyone have any for 
sale?
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Aug  1 18:14:14 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:14:14 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] jack hole plugs
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Message-ID: <6BF28CB1BE1C4A7FB4747DCF7A189EE6@xp>

Bob,

Steve had a set for sale on 311s.org. Dunno if they're still available.

I was thinking of piping the floorboards to 'em and use 'em as a cockpit
drain. <g>

Pete

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Behalf Of Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 12:34 PM
To: datsun listdatsun; Little Bobby; datsun list datsun
Subject: [Roadsters] jack hole plugs


Hi list, I am looking for a couple of jack hole plugs for my
67-1600....Anyone have any for sale? Speaking of great road trips. I took my
honeymoon in a  67-1600 in June of 1968 from Missouri to Virginia.....Not a
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From rksmith46 at hotmail.com  Fri Aug  1 21:17:22 2008
From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 23:17:22 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] The cross country discussion has me thinking...
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ken, i think the r 16 and u20 eng. both are very strong engs. i remember
in the 1970s i lived in florida. a friend had just tuned his jag xke and we
went to the bee line hiway(15-20 miles of straight road), to test the jag.
i followed in my 69 2000. the datsun was minus 5th gear, and i had a
250lb. friend riding along. the jag disappeared ahead and all i could
do was  keep the datsun floored in 4th gear. the datsun topped out
at 6000 rpm at an indicated 115mph. i ran flat out for about 10
miles before i came upon the jag stopped on the side of the road smoking.
 after that run, i was fairly impressed with ruggedness of the u-20 eng.
                            bob smith
                            69 srl 311
                            70 chev. elcamino
                            2007 toy. yaris(dont laugh,40 m.p.g)> From:
wilhouse at charter.net> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Thu, 31 Jul
2008 21:41:19 -0500> Subject: [Roadsters] The cross country discussion has me
thinking...> > Hey guys and gals. The current discussion about driving across
the country in> a roadster brought up a question. Maybe showing my ignorance,
but here goes.> I have always been hesitant to drive my '67 1600 for too long
on the> interstate. I've done it, but at 70-ish it is turning 3500 rpm or so.
Is> that okay??? I'm a little bit of a wimp maybe?? Definitely too little of
a> mechanic to know for sure.> Thanks,> Ken>
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From wilhouse at charter.net  Sat Aug  2 07:01:43 2008
From: wilhouse at charter.net (Ken & Tammy Williams)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 08:01:43 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] The cross country discussion has me thinking...
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Thanks to everybody for the replies.
While we'll probably spend most of our time on the twisty back roads at less
than 90mph, I'll feel much less nervous about the time I need to speed her up
a little.  Actually, it's a very nice weekend....Gotta go!!
Ken

From info at sportsimports.ca  Fri Aug  1 08:49:07 2008
From: info at sportsimports.ca (Ross Mullen / Sports Imports)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:49:07 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake springs
Message-ID: <8E5CDC3C-7F88-437C-9335-1E32BCA360D0@sportsimports.ca>

I have a customer in MA on the east coast needing brake springs for  
his rear shoes. can anyone help? used is fine. his are rusted and  
need replacing. the summer is slipping away and he wants to drive his  
roadster.

Ross
sports imports

From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Sat Aug  2 09:21:01 2008
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (Nathaniel Leeds)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 08:21:01 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?
Message-ID: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOAEMONMAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>

Can someone tell me which rollbars fit underneath which ragtops?

Here's the problem I have: I am in California, with my garage stuffed with
spare Datsun stuff, including what looks to me to be a thick, aftermarket,
rollbar; my sweet-baby '69 2000 is in my family garage in Colorado. I'm
about to drive the family sedan to Colorado, return it to my step-father,
and drive the Datsun back to California.

Obviously, I'd like to have a roof for the hot desert traverse and a rollbar
for the twisty mountain roads. Can I have it all? I don't know whether this
rollbar fits beneath the convertible top -- anyone have any experience one
way or another. I don't want to take the rollbar all the way from California
to Colorado and then be forced to leave it there.

Since I don't really know the origin of this rollbar I'd be interested in
hearing about whether some aftermarket bars are just too large.

Nathaniel

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sat Aug  2 09:56:37 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 08:56:37 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?
In-Reply-To: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOAEMONMAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <1EE37F448D104404B255BAB39526A410@xp>

The no-brand rollbar (do any of them actually have a brand?) that came on my
'66 roadster will -NOT- allow the softtop to collapse. I would collapse it
as far as it would go, then remove the entire frame/top and stuff it on the
back shelf. I finally took the rollbar off. Haven't decided whether to have
it modified, get a new one, or just sell it to someone who only drives on
sunny (but not desert hot) days.

                    `  ___  '
Pete               -  (O o)  -
------------------ooO--(_)--Ooo----
Lake Forest Park, WA
1966 1600 SPL311
1966 L20B WPL411
1971 1.7L Porsche 914
plus 2 cars, a truck & a motorcycle

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Nathaniel Leeds
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 8:21 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?


Can someone tell me which rollbars fit underneath which ragtops?

Here's the problem I have: I am in California, with my garage stuffed with
spare Datsun stuff, including what looks to me to be a thick, aftermarket,
rollbar; my sweet-baby '69 2000 is in my family garage in Colorado. I'm
about to drive the family sedan to Colorado, return it to my step-father,
and drive the Datsun back to California.

Obviously, I'd like to have a roof for the hot desert traverse and a rollbar
for the twisty mountain roads. Can I have it all? I don't know whether this
rollbar fits beneath the convertible top -- anyone have any experience one
way or another. I don't want to take the rollbar all the way from California
to Colorado and then be forced to leave it there.

Since I don't really know the origin of this rollbar I'd be interested in
hearing about whether some aftermarket bars are just too large.

Nathaniel
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From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Sat Aug  2 13:38:12 2008
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 14:38:12 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake springs
References: <8E5CDC3C-7F88-437C-9335-1E32BCA360D0@sportsimports.ca>
Message-ID: <000a01c8f4d7$4dc8f260$6500a8c0@LAP120>

It should be easy to come up with a replacement for a common part like that.
I'll bet some knowledgeable person in roadster land could tell us what
suitable vehicle application / aftermarket source is available. Others may
also benefit if this highly elusive part could be found.
Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker / 5-speed


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ross Mullen / Sports Imports" <info at sportsimports.ca>
To: "Datsun list" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 9:49 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake springs


> I have a customer in MA on the east coast needing brake springs for
> his rear shoes. can anyone help? used is fine. his are rusted and
> need replacing. the summer is slipping away and he wants to drive his
> roadster.
>
> Ross
> sports imports

From gregs672liter at netzero.net  Sat Aug  2 14:36:26 2008
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:36:26 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?
Message-ID: <20080802.133626.11889.0@webmail14.vgs.untd.com>

The rollbar on my '67 2000 allows the top to retract, even with a thick foam
and vinyl cover on it.  However, it does not allow the top to be stored as
normal.  What I would do is measure the height of the roll bar, noting also
how wide it is at the top and report that to us.  I can measure the height and
width of mine if you like... it certainly would work on a tall windshield car
if it works on my shortie...
Greg Burrows

-- "Nathaniel Leeds" <nmleeds at mindspring.com> wrote:
Can someone tell me which rollbars fit underneath which ragtops?

Here's the problem I have: I am in California, with my garage stuffed with
spare Datsun stuff, including what looks to me to be a thick, aftermarket,
rollbar; my sweet-baby '69 2000 is in my family garage in Colorado. I'm
about to drive the family sedan to Colorado, return it to my step-father,
and drive the Datsun back to California.

Obviously, I'd like to have a roof for the hot desert traverse and a rollbar
for the twisty mountain roads. Can I have it all? I don't know whether this
rollbar fits beneath the convertible top -- anyone have any experience one
way or another. I don't want to take the rollbar all the way from California
to Colorado and then be forced to leave it there.

Since I don't really know the origin of this rollbar I'd be interested in
hearing about whether some aftermarket bars are just too large.

Nathaniel

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From RWM at RWMann.com  Sat Aug  2 14:47:24 2008
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM (Out of the Office))
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 16:47:24 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?
In-Reply-To: <20080802.133626.11889.0@webmail14.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20080802.133626.11889.0@webmail14.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <4894C7DC.8020403@RWMann.com>

I have a late 1970s Autopower roll bar (then SCCA approved track 
version) on my '68 2000 which works fine with the top up, folds down 
without drama, but the rear stays confound a complete downward folding 
and stowing flush with the rear shelf.  If you can live with that, it 
can be done.

- Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex



gregs672liter at netzero.net wrote:

>The rollbar on my '67 2000 allows the top to retract, even with a thick foam
>and vinyl cover on it.  However, it does not allow the top to be stored as
>normal.  What I would do is measure the height of the roll bar, noting also
>how wide it is at the top and report that to us.  I can measure the height and
>width of mine if you like... it certainly would work on a tall windshield car
>if it works on my shortie...
>Greg Burrows
>
>-- "Nathaniel Leeds" <nmleeds at mindspring.com> wrote:
>Can someone tell me which rollbars fit underneath which ragtops?
>
>Here's the problem I have: I am in California, with my garage stuffed with
>spare Datsun stuff, including what looks to me to be a thick, aftermarket,
>rollbar; my sweet-baby '69 2000 is in my family garage in Colorado. I'm
>about to drive the family sedan to Colorado, return it to my step-father,
>and drive the Datsun back to California.
>
>Obviously, I'd like to have a roof for the hot desert traverse and a rollbar
>for the twisty mountain roads. Can I have it all? I don't know whether this
>rollbar fits beneath the convertible top -- anyone have any experience one
>way or another. I don't want to take the rollbar all the way from California
>to Colorado and then be forced to leave it there.
>
>Since I don't really know the origin of this rollbar I'd be interested in
>hearing about whether some aftermarket bars are just too large.
>
>Nathaniel

From bradandgayle at charter.net  Sat Aug  2 15:06:34 2008
From: bradandgayle at charter.net (Brad and Gayle Holmes)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 16:06:34 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Side mirrors
References: <20080731.102634.19474.1@webmail03.vgs.untd.com>
	<3BC3840B245C41D9A72FAD04F7751CBC@p53ghzduo>
Message-ID: <B8BAF04058F344A780777C6FCFE77F67@holmes>

Mark

Do you think the convex mirror that you used on the "R" would be useful to 
the driver if it was mounted on the passenger door in the same location as 
the traditional mirror is mounted on the door?

Brad Holmes
SEROC
Montgomery, AL



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Sedlack" <msedlack at neo.rr.com>
To: <gregs672liter at netzero.net>; <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Side mirrors


> Greg,
> One possibility:
> I used a pair of Raydyot "look-alike" spun aluminum mirrors - driver's is
> flat, passenger side is convex.
> These aftermarket mirrors were used on lots of sports cars in the '60s, 
> most
> notably the AC Cobra.
>
> They work reasonably, since they get bolted solid and don't move around - 
> a
> helper moves the mirror around for you (sitting in the driver's seat) 
> until
> you're happy with the angles, then snugs down the bolt/stud underneath,
> locking the mirror in position.
>
> You can see what they look like on the "R" here,
> http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/yipes_stripes.htm
> and here is where I bought mine IIRC
> http://tinyurl.com/5m65c8
>
> Mark Sedlack
> ZROC
> Cuyahoga Falls OH
> 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
> 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <gregs672liter at netzero.net>
> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:26 PM
> Subject: [Roadsters] Side mirrors
>
>
>> OK gang, I am happy to say that I think all major body work is FINALLY
>> done on
>> the '67, and I may just get it in primer by Monday (yeah!).  I am looking
>> for
>> new side mirrors and asking for suggestions.  I used to have "baby turbo"
>> mirrors on it, which I liked but they did not work particularly well and
>> tended to giggle a lot.  I'm looking for some alternatives that people
>> have
>> liked (reasonably priced).  Mirrors will be on both sides.  My car as 
>> most
>> of
>> you know is not stock, so I am open to just about anything that looks 
>> good
>> and
>> actually works.
>> Thanks!
>> Greg Burrows
>> 67 2000
>> Bonney Lake, WA
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From Walter.Peterson at cox.net  Sat Aug  2 15:54:49 2008
From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter Peterson)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 14:54:49 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Need distributor oil hose.  67 early 1600.
In-Reply-To: <080120081934.24409.4893653E00017C3000005F592209229927C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net>
References: <080120081934.24409.4893653E00017C3000005F592209229927C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <008501c8f4ea$62f8db60$28ea9220$@Peterson@cox.net>

Beyond stock, does anyone have a steel braided solution like Russell's,
Aeroquip or Earl's?


Walter Peterson
Goleta Ca, 93117

From conner_a at comcast.net  Sat Aug  2 16:32:35 2008
From: conner_a at comcast.net (Andrew Conner)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 18:32:35 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake springs
In-Reply-To: <000a01c8f4d7$4dc8f260$6500a8c0@LAP120>
Message-ID: <GAECJDADOAHAKPLGADNHEEPECLAA.conner_a@comcast.net>

***DISCLAIMER:  Using anything other than the appropriate OEM parts on your
brakes can be dangerous, as brakes are very important to the safe operation
of your roadster.  The following information is for informational purposes
only; anyone who puts it into practice does so at their own risk.  ***


A few years ago I was lucky enough to buy a full rear drum rebuild kit from
Carl Jaeger, but his website
(http://www.new-datsun-parts.com/datsun-roadster-fairlady-brakes.html)
currently lists this as sold out.  The springs I got from Carl will work but
they are differ a little in size from the original ones that came on my car
when I got it.  Here is a picture, where the green ones are new.
http://www.mydatsunroadster.com/misc/old_new_drum_springs.jpg

The original roadster return springs for the cylinder side part # is
44090-16505, but when I tried to order them from Nissan a few years back
they didn't have them.  That may have changed by now.  A couple of years ago
I ordered from Nissan a pair of cylinder side return springs for a 510 to
see if they might match, and while they are just a hair longer than the
green ones, I bet they would work on the roadster.  (The 510 return springs
are red and black).
http://www.mydatsunroadster.com/misc/old_new_510_springs.jpg  So I believe
the 510 parts are still available from Nissan, the part # is 44091-21010 and
they are listed for about $2 apiece.

I didn't get far enough to try to match the adjustor-side return spring to a
510 part, but that could be out there as well (an area for further
research...).  The original roadster part # for the adjustor-side return
spring is 44071-30001--also weren't available a few years back, but that may
have changed.

Andy Conner
SRL 311-01633



-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+conner_a=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+conner_a=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of MH
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 3:38 PM
To: Datsun list
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rear brake springs


It should be easy to come up with a replacement for a common part like that.
I'll bet some knowledgeable person in roadster land could tell us what
suitable vehicle application / aftermarket source is available. Others may
also benefit if this highly elusive part could be found.
Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker / 5-speed


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ross Mullen / Sports Imports" <info at sportsimports.ca>
To: "Datsun list" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 9:49 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake springs


> I have a customer in MA on the east coast needing brake springs for
> his rear shoes. can anyone help? used is fine. his are rusted and
> need replacing. the summer is slipping away and he wants to drive his
> roadster.
>
> Ross
> sports imports
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From sportsix63 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug  2 18:52:18 2008
From: sportsix63 at yahoo.com (jim williams)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 17:52:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Slow to return to idle?
Message-ID: <299904.77211.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

1970 roadster is slow to return to idle when shifting. 
If you are shifting under 2000 rpms no problem. Over 2000 rpms it seems to hang up several seconds before it will idle down.
All smog equipment is on the car.
Thanks.
Jim Williams  Lewisburg, West Virginia

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Sat Aug  2 19:00:02 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:00:02 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Need distributor oil hose.  67 early 1600.
Message-ID: <cb9.367a013f.35c65d12@aol.com>

Every once and a while I will get some of the distributor hoses and oil  
pressure gauge hoses rebuilt. They take the fittings off and put new modern  
braided hose between them. I currently have two distributor hoses for cores and  
one oil gauge hose. I would like to find another used, leaking, with good  
fittings oil gauge hose. Having several done makes the price a little better. In  
the past I have sold these on an exchange basis at my cost. The price ends up  
being about half what a new hose costs and should last for the life of the 
car.  There should be a few out there that I've done. If anyone here has used  
one of mine and has any feedback please feel free to share. 
 
keith "mostly carbs" williams
 
 
In a message dated 8/2/2008 2:55:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
Walter.Peterson at cox.net writes:

Beyond  stock, does anyone have a steel braided solution like Russell's,
Aeroquip  or Earl's?


Walter Peterson
Goleta Ca,  93117





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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Sat Aug  2 19:05:12 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:05:12 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters]  Need distributor oil hose.  67 early 1600.
In-Reply-To: <8CAC304BCAB3A2E-B6C-D7@WEBMAIL-DB13.sysops.aol.com>
References: <080120081934.24409.4893653E00017C3000005F592209229927C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net>
	<008501c8f4ea$62f8db60$28ea9220$@Peterson@cox.net>
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Walter,

You can get a steel braided teflon line made up at a hose supply place similar to this:

http://www.ormebrothers.com/

You can bring or send the hose with fittings (essential as they may not have the fittings) and they can make it up. If you go in they can do it while you wait.



Linda

68 1600





 



 -----Original Message-----


From: Walter Peterson <Walter.Peterson at cox.net>

To: 'datsun list datsun' <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>

Sent: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 2:54 pm

Subject: [Roadsters] Need distributor oil hose.  67 early 1600.













Beyond stock, does anyone have a steel braided solution like Russell's,

Aeroquip or Earl's?





Walter Peterson

Goleta Ca, 93117

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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Sat Aug  2 19:06:45 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:06:45 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Slow to return to idle?
Message-ID: <bdb.3010cd92.35c65ea5@aol.com>

1600 or 2000? The 1600 had some 70 only smog stuff. One of the things they  
did was to hold the throttle open a bit under high manifold vacuum conditions.  
This was to prevent back firing. The small vacuum hose on the manifold should 
go  to the vacuum motor for it. This may be out of adjustment. For a test 
pull the  hose and cap the barb on the manifold. Another possibility is that the 
vacuum  advance on the distributor is hooked to the manifold vacuum rather 
than the  vacuum port on the carb. 
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 8/2/2008 5:53:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
sportsix63 at yahoo.com writes:

1970  roadster is slow to return to idle when shifting. 
If you are shifting  under 2000 rpms no problem. Over 2000 rpms it seems to 
hang up several seconds  before it will idle down.
All smog equipment is on the  car.
Thanks.
Jim Williams  Lewisburg, West  Virginia





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From jover4x4 at aol.com  Sat Aug  2 21:47:10 2008
From: jover4x4 at aol.com (jover4x4 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 23:47:10 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?
In-Reply-To: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOAEMONMAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
References: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOAEMONMAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <8CAC332BE4CB74E-758-1831@FWM-M36.sysops.aol.com>

Nathaniel,

Look me up if you are coming to the Denver Area.? Wycroc would love to schedule an outing with you.

John Over
Aurora, CO

68 2000 
67 2000 
71 240z

720-810-4154


-----Original Message-----
From: Nathaniel Leeds <nmleeds at mindspring.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 9:21 am
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?



Can someone tell me which rollbars fit underneath which ragtops?

Here's the problem I have: I am in California, with my garage stuffed with
spare Datsun stuff, including what looks to me to be a thick, aftermarket,
rollbar; my sweet-baby '69 2000 is in my family garage in Colorado. I'm
about to drive the family sedan to Colorado, return it to my step-father,
and drive the Datsun back to California.

Obviously, I'd like to have a roof for the hot desert traverse and a rollbar
for the twisty mountain roads. Can I have it all? I don't know whether this
rollbar fits beneath the convertible top -- anyone have any experience one
way or another. I don't want to take the rollbar all the way from California
to Colorado and then be forced to leave it there.

Since I don't really know the origin of this rollbar I'd be interested in
hearing about whether some aftermarket bars are just too large.

Nathaniel
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From chalsted at comcast.net  Sun Aug  3 00:25:18 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 02:25:18 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Slow to return to idle?
References: <299904.77211.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <041701c8f531$b3e4d460$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

see if one of your throttle shaft return springs has broken and replace as 
necessary. if it was a symptom that came on suddenly. let's see, that would 
be the yellow 41k mile 1600 from over near me. he didn't drive it much and 
the throttle shaft bushings could use a bit of WD40 most likely. first check 
the return springs though.
Craig Halsted
Datsun Roadsters mostly...
http://community.webshots.com/user/672000

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jim williams" <sportsix63 at yahoo.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 8:52 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Slow to return to idle?


> 1970 roadster is slow to return to idle when shifting.
> If you are shifting under 2000 rpms no problem. Over 2000 rpms it seems to 
> hang up several seconds before it will idle down.
> All smog equipment is on the car.
> Thanks.
> Jim Williams  Lewisburg, West Virginia

From chalsted at comcast.net  Sun Aug  3 00:35:15 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 02:35:15 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Slow to return to idle?
References: <bdb.3010cd92.35c65ea5@aol.com>
Message-ID: <042701c8f533$17bf4f50$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

Hi Keith, his car is a '70 1600, he bought it from someone local to me. I 
have photos of it in my computer. 41k original miles, not driven much the 
past 11 years. they used to run it in the local Apple Blossom Parade, after 
Steve's wife passed it became painful for him to see it around and he didn't 
drive it anymore. car also needs new springs, they were pretty soft. brakes 
weren't 100%  new owner has other cars and figured he'd buy it as an 
investment, called me about parts after looking around and was not happy at 
what used parts are going for. great car to have and spruce up to drive, but 
not as an investment with intention of turning for a profit. he gave all the 
money for it at time of purchase
Craig
Datsun Roadsters mostly...
http://community.webshots.com/user/672000

From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com  Sun Aug  3 06:01:51 2008
From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 05:01:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] What year is my car?
In-Reply-To: <C4B7C86F.FE48%chuckkyle@mac.com>
Message-ID: <806647.2829.qm@web63711.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

This may be the best 1600 engine out there IMHO.  If still original you should have a cast iron head (3 bolts in the thermostat tower), and it is pretty bullet-proof as far as warping due to heat etc.  The downside is that it is a 3 main bearing engine rather that 5 (engine # 40,000 was the change-over I think).  The 5-main bearing engine can be stroked with a 2000 crank & pistons, but not the 3.  The 5 does apparently have an oil delivery issue to one of the bearings though, so I'd say you have the best of both worlds.  Enjoy the ride!

Mike SC
'66 1600 (Also an early R Engine)


--- On Thu, 7/31/08, Charles Kyle <chuckkyle at mac.com> wrote:

> From: Charles Kyle <chuckkyle at mac.com>
> Subject: [Roadsters] What year is my car?
> To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 8:52 PM
> Hello all,
> 
> So I think my Datsun is somewhere between a 66 and a 68. 
> Based on the
> serial number (SPL311-18896) and descriptions that I have
> read online, I
> defiantly think the body is a 68, high windshield.  Now the
> engine might be
> something different.  How can I tell?  The engine block
> number is R05076 and
> the oil filter is the old canister type not the screw on,
> so is this a 66?
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Chuck
> 
> Mobile:  512-225-4501
> Web site:  www.chuckkyle.com
> 
> 
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> 
> Chuck Kyle
> 514B  Pawnee St
> Leavenworth KS 66048
> 
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> 
> Chuck Kyle
> 7441 Collins Meade Way
> Alexandria, VA 22315
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From stebharvey at ameritech.net  Sun Aug  3 06:07:08 2008
From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 05:07:08 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] GM Alternator Swap
Message-ID: <000001c8f561$742c9210$5c85b630$@net>

Thanks to all for the information on installing a new GM alternator. Tim
came over to Milwaukee with his 1600 so I had a sample car to look at and do
the swap. I can truly say that yesterday was the first time I've seen my amp
gauge go to the right of center. Yippy!

 

After I started the car for the first time I backed it out of the garage and
Tim yelled that I should shut off the motor asap. I got out of the car and
saw a 2.0" wide path of fuel on the driveway. On closer inspection I felt a
large amount of fuel under the bottom of the fuel pump. The in and out fuel
lines are secure and not leaking. Is it possible that the fuel pump housing
is cracked? In case the problem is a failed gasket, is there a rebuild kit
for the fuel pump? Tim stated that I have to remove the right side motor
mount to get the fuel pump out from the block, true or false? Does the 2000
engine use the same fuel pump?

 

Thanks

P.S. On our road trip last weekend I smelled fuel in the engine compartment
and now I know why.

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Sun Aug  3 06:23:32 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 08:23:32 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] What year is my car?
In-Reply-To: <806647.2829.qm@web63711.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <C4B7C86F.FE48%chuckkyle@mac.com>
	<806647.2829.qm@web63711.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003f01c8f563$bfd565a0$3f8030e0$@net>

-----Original Message-----
The 5 does apparently have an oil delivery issue to one of the bearings
though, so I'd say you have the best of both worlds.  Enjoy the ride!

Mike SC
----------------------

  The 5 main does have poor oil flow to #3 rod bearing.  We've toasted a few
in the race roadsters.  But then we started cross drilling the crank shaft
to improve the oil flow to ALL the rod bearings.  Not a problem anymore.

Paul
Sloan Racing
Ohio

From hallosb at juno.com  Sun Aug  3 08:00:16 2008
From: hallosb at juno.com (hallosb at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 14:00:16 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] Wanted: passenger door, fender sheet metal
Message-ID: <20080803.070016.15574.0@webmail21.vgs.untd.com>

I may need a passenger door and fender for a low windshield car.  My last trip
to a body shop many years ago resulted in very poor results.  Too
inexperienced at the time to notice.
Now, I'm looking to have it re-done. The body shop may be able to work with
what I have. No rust, just bent metal.  However, a replacement would obviously
be better.
I live in Arizona so, West Coast source would be better.
TIA,
Dan McHatton
'66 1600
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From jsk977 at optonline.net  Sun Aug  3 08:16:28 2008
From: jsk977 at optonline.net (Jerry Krakauer)
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:16:28 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] What year is my car?
References: <C4B7C86F.FE48%chuckkyle@mac.com>
	<806647.2829.qm@web63711.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<003f01c8f563$bfd565a0$3f8030e0$@net>
Message-ID: <E6049C3D9EA44FCCA6DD1A86B5C82477@HP1450>

If I recall correctly, BSR always used the 3 main block because it produced 
less friction a therefore a bit more power. Since the crank was short enough 
and stiff enough, there was really no extra whip with only 3 bearings.


Jerry Krakauer
SRL311 00099
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net>
To: <roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com>; <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>; 
"'Charles Kyle'" <chuckkyle at mac.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What year is my car?


> -----Original Message-----
> The 5 does apparently have an oil delivery issue to one of the bearings
> though, so I'd say you have the best of both worlds.  Enjoy the ride!
>
> Mike SC
> ----------------------
>
>  The 5 main does have poor oil flow to #3 rod bearing.  We've toasted a 
> few
> in the race roadsters.  But then we started cross drilling the crank shaft
> to improve the oil flow to ALL the rod bearings.  Not a problem anymore.
>
> Paul
> Sloan Racing
> Ohio

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Sun Aug  3 09:41:09 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:41:09 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] What year is my car?
In-Reply-To: <E6049C3D9EA44FCCA6DD1A86B5C82477@HP1450>
References: <C4B7C86F.FE48%chuckkyle@mac.com>
	<806647.2829.qm@web63711.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<003f01c8f563$bfd565a0$3f8030e0$@net>
	<E6049C3D9EA44FCCA6DD1A86B5C82477@HP1450>
Message-ID: <004001c8f57f$5b8e8e20$12abaa60$@net>

  Most of the old time racers did use the 3 main blocks.  But here in Ohio,
there just aren't many flat dash roadsters willing to sacrifice their
engines.  

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Krakauer [mailto:jsk977 at optonline.net] 
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 10:16 AM
To: Paul; roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net;
'Charles Kyle'
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What year is my car?

If I recall correctly, BSR always used the 3 main block because it produced 
less friction a therefore a bit more power. Since the crank was short enough

and stiff enough, there was really no extra whip with only 3 bearings.


Jerry Krakauer
SRL311 00099
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net>
To: <roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com>; <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>; 
"'Charles Kyle'" <chuckkyle at mac.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What year is my car?


> -----Original Message-----
> The 5 does apparently have an oil delivery issue to one of the bearings
> though, so I'd say you have the best of both worlds.  Enjoy the ride!
>
> Mike SC
> ----------------------
>
>  The 5 main does have poor oil flow to #3 rod bearing.  We've toasted a 
> few
> in the race roadsters.  But then we started cross drilling the crank shaft
> to improve the oil flow to ALL the rod bearings.  Not a problem anymore.
>
> Paul
> Sloan Racing
> Ohio

From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com  Sun Aug  3 10:25:03 2008
From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 09:25:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] distributor
Message-ID: <390340.64618.qm@web53502.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I'd like to thank everyone for sharing their advice and wisdom. 
THANKS!!!, everyone!!
Patti

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Sun Aug  3 10:43:11 2008
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 09:43:11 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] What year is my car?
References: <806647.2829.qm@web63711.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001201c8f588$04d08170$6500a8c0@Daryl>

Actually, If you can find one, an H19 crank has the 83 mm stroke with 3 
mains, so you can stroke a 3 main to 2L as well. The hard part is finding 
the crank.
You can also stroke it to 1800cc with a G15 crank, but you would need custom 
rods or pistons.
By far the easiest tho (parts availability and cost), is to stroke the later 
5 main engines, which of course, you can bolt the cast iron head onto!

Cheers
Daryl
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Harper" <roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>; "Charles Kyle" <chuckkyle at mac.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What year is my car?


> This may be the best 1600 engine out there IMHO.  If still original you 
> should have a cast iron head (3 bolts in the thermostat tower), and it is 
> pretty bullet-proof as far as warping due to heat etc.  The downside is 
> that it is a 3 main bearing engine rather that 5 (engine # 40,000 was the 
> change-over I think).  The 5-main bearing engine can be stroked with a 
> 2000 crank & pistons, but not the 3.  The 5 does apparently have an oil 
> delivery issue to one of the bearings though, so I'd say you have the best 
> of both worlds.  Enjoy the ride!
>
> Mike SC
> '66 1600 (Also an early R Engine)
>
>
> --- On Thu, 7/31/08, Charles Kyle <chuckkyle at mac.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Charles Kyle <chuckkyle at mac.com>
>> Subject: [Roadsters] What year is my car?
>> To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 8:52 PM
>> Hello all,
>>
>> So I think my Datsun is somewhere between a 66 and a 68.
>> Based on the
>> serial number (SPL311-18896) and descriptions that I have
>> read online, I
>> defiantly think the body is a 68, high windshield.  Now the
>> engine might be
>> something different.  How can I tell?  The engine block
>> number is R05076 and
>> the oil filter is the old canister type not the screw on,
>> so is this a 66?
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>> Mobile:  512-225-4501
>> Web site:  www.chuckkyle.com
>>
>>
>> Leavenworth Address:
>>
>> Chuck Kyle
>> 514B  Pawnee St
>> Leavenworth KS 66048
>>
>> DC Address:
>>
>> Chuck Kyle
>> 7441 Collins Meade Way
>> Alexandria, VA 22315
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sun Aug  3 18:48:16 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 00:48:16 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] FS: 1964 1500 3-seater
Message-ID: <080420080048.10189.489651D000059B78000027CD2206998499CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Don't know the seller or the car. From the Austin, TX craigslist:

<http://austin.craigslist.org/car/735693686.html>

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Sun Aug  3 18:56:26 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 20:56:26 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Slow to return to idle?
Message-ID: <cf4.34af94f3.35c7adba@aol.com>

Argh, clean with carb cleaner spray then lube with silicone spray. No  WD-40, 
it gets gummy after a while. 
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 8/2/2008 11:25:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
chalsted at comcast.net writes:

he  didn't drive it much and 
the throttle shaft bushings could use a bit of  WD40 most likely. 




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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Sun Aug  3 19:33:24 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:33:24 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake springs
In-Reply-To: <000a01c8f4d7$4dc8f260$6500a8c0@LAP120>
References: <8E5CDC3C-7F88-437C-9335-1E32BCA360D0@sportsimports.ca>
	<000a01c8f4d7$4dc8f260$6500a8c0@LAP120>
Message-ID: <BAY106-W6B9E68C4F5E97A3AE9070DF780@phx.gbl>

ACE Hardware has a wonderful selection of springs - I am sure that one would
work - just a thought
Peter



> From: twobeaners at earthlink.net> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date:
Sat, 2 Aug 2008 14:38:12 -0500> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rear brake springs> >
It should be easy to come up with a replacement for a common part like that.>
I'll bet some knowledgeable person in roadster land could tell us what>
suitable vehicle application / aftermarket source is available. Others may>
also benefit if this highly elusive part could be found.> Mike Hudson '67 -
Stroker / 5-speed> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ross Mullen /
Sports Imports" <info at sportsimports.ca>> To: "Datsun list"
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 9:49 AM>
Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake springs> > > > I have a customer in MA on the
east coast needing brake springs for> > his rear shoes. can anyone help? used
is fine. his are rusted and> > need replacing. the summer is slipping away and
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From VulForge at aol.com  Mon Aug  4 08:01:36 2008
From: VulForge at aol.com (VulForge at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:01:36 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel pump: was GM alternator
Message-ID: <bbe.2eac309b.35c865c0@aol.com>

Russell  Criswell
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Kansas City, MO  64111

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Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:59:29 EDT
Subject: Fuel pump: was GM alternator
To: datsun-roadsters-request at autox.team.net
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There are rebuild kits for the fuel pump.  I think I  got mine  from Stan 
Chernoff, CDM or other vendors should have them.  As I recall the  pump will come 
off without removing anything major, but it is really tight  quarters.  If it 
is the pump diaphragm I don't think you have to remove the  unit from the 
block, just unscrew the top.
 
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From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Mon Aug  4 08:54:23 2008
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 07:54:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Slow to return to idle?
In-Reply-To: <cf4.34af94f3.35c7adba@aol.com>
Message-ID: <290372.73516.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'm glad that someone else out there is not a WD-40 devotee! It is not the miracle juice that so many people seem to believe that it is...

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

Keith0alan at aol.com wrote: Argh, clean with carb cleaner spray then lube with silicone spray. No  WD-40, 
it gets gummy after a while. 
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 8/2/2008 11:25:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
chalsted at comcast.net writes:

he  didn't drive it much and 
the throttle shaft bushings could use a bit of  WD40 most likely. 




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From sandhoff at csus.edu  Mon Aug  4 10:04:21 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 09:04:21 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?
In-Reply-To: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOAEMONMAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <4896C615.10911.43C00E@localhost>

> Can someone tell me which rollbars fit underneath which ragtops?

I believe it gets a bit more complicated:
"Which soft top frames fit around the rollbar?"

At least on the high screen cars, it appears that some of the frames
are a nudge wider than others, thus while one specific frame will clear
a specific rollbar, another different frame may not.

So if you find a rollbar that "this one fits under my top", it may not
necessarily fit under YOUR top...

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From chalsted at comcast.net  Mon Aug  4 10:46:33 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:46:33 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Slow to return to idle?
References: <290372.73516.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <006b01c8f651$a74fd530$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

yeah, but I hear it's great for arthritis- they have a hard time keeping it on
the shelf in retirement communities :-)
Craig

From leehinger at verizon.net  Mon Aug  4 11:10:35 2008
From: leehinger at verizon.net (leehinger at verizon.net)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:10:35 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?
Message-ID: <19048028.6974581217869835159.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost>

  Years ago I had a Datsun provided high windshield roll bar in one of
my cars. I went to put the top up -  oh no the outsides of the frame
would not clear the bar.  I took a good size crescent wrench & snugged
it over the top frame arm tabs and gently bent them out a couple of
degrees until they cleared.  Worked great for years...
Lee Ehinger

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:04 PM, John F Sandhoff wrote:

>> Can someone tell me which rollbars fit underneath which ragtops?

I believe it gets a bit more complicated:
"Which soft top frames fit around the rollbar?"

At least on the high screen cars, it appears that some of the frames
are a nudge wider than others, thus while one specific frame will clear
a specific rollbar, another different frame may not.

So if you find a rollbar that "this one fits under my top", it may not
necessarily fit under YOUR top...

-- John
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From sandhoff at csus.edu  Mon Aug  4 12:52:02 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:52:02 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?
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Lee reports:
> ...the frame would not clear the bar.  I took a good size crescent
> wrench & snugged it over the top frame arm tabs and gently bent them
> out a couple of degrees until they cleared.
  
Lee has provided a definite 'Aha!' moment.

I doubt now that there's different frames - some are just more
bent out of shape than others!

Thanks, Lee! I'll try your cure on my 1600 :-)

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Mon Aug  4 14:12:19 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:12:19 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Slow to return to idle?
Message-ID: <c21.2df7fb95.35c8bca3@aol.com>

WD-40 is great for what it is intended to do. Displace moisture and provide  
a protective coating. It just doesn't make a good lube for carb chokes.
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 8/4/2008 7:55:02 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
gkmcc at sbcglobal.net writes:

I'm glad  that someone else out there is not a WD-40 devotee! It is not the 
miracle  juice that so many people seem to believe that it is...

Gary  McCormick
San Jose, CA

Keith0alan at aol.com wrote: Argh, clean with  carb cleaner spray then lube with 
silicone spray. No  WD-40, 
it gets  gummy after a while.  

keith





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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Mon Aug  4 15:15:18 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:15:18 -0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?
References: <4896C615.10911.43C00E@localhost>
Message-ID: <00b401b4af37$a1057ec0$fe21ffd8@hpcustomer>

  We found three different frames on late model roadsters.

Paul
Ohio
----- Original Message ----- 
From: John F Sandhoff <sandhoff at csus.edu>
> 
> At least on the high screen cars, it appears that some of the frames
> are a nudge wider than others, thus while one specific frame will clear
> a specific rollbar, another different frame may not.
> 
> -- John

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Mon Aug  4 15:15:28 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:15:28 -0000
Subject: [Roadsters] WD40 was Slow to return to idle?
References: <290372.73516.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00b301b4af37$9f8c9a60$fe21ffd8@hpcustomer>

  Works good on fishing lures.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gary McCormick <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net>

> I'm glad that someone else out there is not a WD-40 devotee! It is not the
miracle juice that so many people seem to believe that it is...
>
> Gary McCormick

From printner at att.net  Mon Aug  4 15:33:57 2008
From: printner at att.net (Tim Waltz)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:33:57 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake springs
In-Reply-To: <8E5CDC3C-7F88-437C-9335-1E32BCA360D0@sportsimports.ca>
References: <8E5CDC3C-7F88-437C-9335-1E32BCA360D0@sportsimports.ca>
Message-ID: <011e01c8f679$cd926be0$68b743a0$@net>

Brake springs is one of those items I'd love to see the vendors find a way
to supply.   Wink, wink.

The ones on these cars can't last forever.   Seems like it would be a pretty
good item to go with new brake pads.


Tim


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+printner=att.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+printner=att.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Ross Mullen / Sports Imports
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 8:49 AM
To: Datsun list
Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake springs

I have a customer in MA on the east coast needing brake springs for  
his rear shoes. can anyone help? used is fine. his are rusted and  
need replacing. the summer is slipping away and he wants to drive his  
roadster.

Ross
sports imports
________________________________________

From haabu at sbcglobal.net  Mon Aug  4 15:50:11 2008
From: haabu at sbcglobal.net (Herb Petty)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 14:50:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Re.
Message-ID: <948978.61838.qm@web81803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi All,
  I guess quite a few places made roll-bars  ( In the Day )   I've been running a roll-bar that was salvaged from a 1969-1600  ( after-market )  for about  20 yrs.   It fits just fine, & it has a serial number.
  on one of the feet.    I was told, that if it had a serial number, that it was certified, for s.c.c.a.
  use.  Mind you, ( I was told )??    Anyway, it works just fine in my 1966 s.p,l.   the
  top has no problems.    Of course, I should add, I hardly ever put it up.   Also, I think the factory / Nismo roll-bar started in 1967.5.   I've seen a couple when I was in Japan.
  Have a great ride,
   
  Herb Petty
  Modesto, Ca.

From andycost at embarqmail.com  Mon Aug  4 16:15:37 2008
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Embarq Customer)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 18:15:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?
In-Reply-To: <00b401b4af37$a1057ec0$fe21ffd8@hpcustomer>
Message-ID: <11301747.723751217888137154.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>

You all probably know my opinion on the whole rollbar deal but I'll share it again anyway.  The rollbar needs to be tall enough so that when a line is drawn from the roll bar to the front of the car where it will hit the ground, the drivers head will be 2" below the line.  For a roadster that means the roll bar needs to be much taller than will fit under a top.  Anything less than that will provide no protection (ZERO) to the driver or passenger.  It is only for vanity at that point.  My advice is to leave the rollbar out and operate the top easily.

Andy

From slowboy at cox.net  Mon Aug  4 17:09:54 2008
From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:09:54 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?
References: <11301747.723751217888137154.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>
Message-ID: <000401c8f687$35186c30$0201a8c0@m7170n>

Wait a minute!  Some of us gotta call it the new seat belt bar. :o)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Embarq Customer" <andycost at embarqmail.com>
To: <Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?


> You all probably know my opinion on the whole rollbar deal but I'll share 
> it again anyway.  The rollbar needs to be tall enough so that when a line 
> is drawn from the roll bar to the front of the car where it will hit the 
> ground, the drivers head will be 2" below the line.  For a roadster that 
> means the roll bar needs to be much taller than will fit under a top. 
> Anything less than that will provide no protection (ZERO) to the driver or 
> passenger.  It is only for vanity at that point.  My advice is to leave 
> the rollbar out and operate the top easily.
>
> Andy

From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Mon Aug  4 17:29:28 2008
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (Nathaniel Leeds)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:29:28 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?
In-Reply-To: <11301747.723751217888137154.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>
Message-ID: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOAEOENMAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>

Car safety isn't science. I know that if I had a lab perfect roll-over the
rollbar might not keep my head from getting a pretty good whack. But in real
life all sorts of physically complicated things happen in car crashes. For
my money, I bet that having a good solid piece of metal above is gonna give
you more protection, more often than not -- and I'd dare anyone to get in
enough different types of car crashes to prove it one way or another.

Nathaniel





-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+nmleeds=mindspring.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+nmleeds=mindspring.com at autox.team.net]O
n Behalf Of Embarq Customer
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:16 PM
To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?


You all probably know my opinion on the whole rollbar deal but I'll share it
again anyway.  The rollbar needs to be tall enough so that when a line is
drawn from the roll bar to the front of the car where it will hit the
ground, the drivers head will be 2" below the line.  For a roadster that
means the roll bar needs to be much taller than will fit under a top.
Anything less than that will provide no protection (ZERO) to the driver or
passenger.  It is only for vanity at that point.  My advice is to leave the
rollbar out and operate the top easily.

Andy
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From steve at olsonarchitect.com  Mon Aug  4 17:44:02 2008
From: steve at olsonarchitect.com (Stephen Wan)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:44:02 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?
References: <11301747.723751217888137154.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>
Message-ID: <10c701c8f68b$fa44f790$7200a8c0@Stephen>

That's just in a rollover.  And depending on the car's postion and direction 
of travel, could land on the rear corner of the vehicle while upside down 
and take the initial impact.  In that situation, I'd rather have my head 
poking past the line of the bar to the hood than the line from the 
windshield to the trunk.  Too many varibles to say it won't provide any 
protection.  And I'd rather have some protection than none.  I'm also 
looking for the bar to protect me from the guy who runs a red light and 
slams into the side of the door.
Or the jacked up SUV that fails to stop and decides to play monster truck.

Steve
70' 1600

----- Original Message ----- 

> You all probably know my opinion on the whole rollbar deal but I'll share 
> it again anyway.  The rollbar needs to be tall enough so that when a line 
> is drawn from the roll bar to the front of the car where it will hit the 
> ground, the drivers head will be 2" below the line.  For a roadster that 
> means the roll bar needs to be much taller than will fit under a top. 
> Anything less than that will provide no protection (ZERO) to the driver or 
> passenger.  It is only for vanity at that point.  My advice is to leave 
> the rollbar out and operate the top easily.
>
> Andy

From barterdude at comcast.net  Mon Aug  4 17:50:26 2008
From: barterdude at comcast.net (barterdude)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:50:26 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Best source for selling a roadster
Message-ID: <1BB6DDE801714387AC8122AE44E1244C@XPLaptop>

Didn't have much success the last time playing with EBay trying to sell my
1970 2000 roadster.  Wondering if any has had experience with AutoTrader.com
or any other source to find a qualified buyer for cars in the range of 5 -
10 K in price?

 

Gary Lasater

founding member www.wycroc.org

'63 SPL310-300161C

'63 SPL310-300289B

'64 SPL310-001289

'69 SRL311-12536

'70 SPL311-28169

From razmataz at indy.net  Mon Aug  4 17:54:54 2008
From: razmataz at indy.net (Stan Rasmussen)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:54:54 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?
In-Reply-To: <10c701c8f68b$fa44f790$7200a8c0@Stephen>
Message-ID: <9C6224A986124EE5A6DD639AFE2BF5B4@YOURCCFEA0C05A>

Anyone seen a "Toadster" cover put on a Roadster?  The type of hard
cover that extends from the seat backs and covers the opening, usually
painted to match the car.  A custom double hump roll bar in chrome would
also look stellar.  I've contemplated getting out some fiberglass and
trying to make one...anyone else.

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+razmataz=indy.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+razmataz=indy.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Stephen Wan
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 7:44 PM
To: Embarq Customer; Autox (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?


That's just in a rollover.  And depending on the car's postion and
direction 
of travel, could land on the rear corner of the vehicle while upside
down 
and take the initial impact.  In that situation, I'd rather have my head

poking past the line of the bar to the hood than the line from the 
windshield to the trunk.  Too many varibles to say it won't provide any 
protection.  And I'd rather have some protection than none.  I'm also 
looking for the bar to protect me from the guy who runs a red light and 
slams into the side of the door.
Or the jacked up SUV that fails to stop and decides to play monster
truck.

Steve
70' 1600

----- Original Message ----- 

> You all probably know my opinion on the whole rollbar deal but I'll 
> share
> it again anyway.  The rollbar needs to be tall enough so that when a
line 
> is drawn from the roll bar to the front of the car where it will hit
the 
> ground, the drivers head will be 2" below the line.  For a roadster
that 
> means the roll bar needs to be much taller than will fit under a top. 
> Anything less than that will provide no protection (ZERO) to the
driver or 
> passenger.  It is only for vanity at that point.  My advice is to
leave 
> the rollbar out and operate the top easily.
>
> Andy
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Mon Aug  4 18:11:49 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:11:49 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?
Message-ID: <080520080011.3338.48979AC5000376DC00000D0A2200735834CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Yeah, but what will Barbie hang on to?

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Embarq Customer <andycost at embarqmail.com>

[snip]

 My advice is to leave the rollbar out and operate the top easily.
> 
> Andy

From alvingogi at hotmail.com  Mon Aug  4 18:37:17 2008
From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 00:37:17 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?
In-Reply-To: <10c701c8f68b$fa44f790$7200a8c0@Stephen>
References: <11301747.723751217888137154.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>
	<10c701c8f68b$fa44f790$7200a8c0@Stephen>
Message-ID: <BLU147-W27596FC87DAC847B30FB24B57B0@phx.gbl>

I know my rollbar won't protect me in a rollover. In fact, with my helmet on I
am 2" ABOVE the roll bar :)
This is why I have limited my track time with the roadster and focused on my
Z33.
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2826207320089849889MSWJxB
The rollbar is good for a few other reasons:
1) structural if you mount it to the frame
2) it allows safer mounting locations for shoulder harnesses
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2526541350089849889ZeurGE

Alvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20> From: steve at olsonarchitect.com> To:
andycost at embarqmail.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Mon, 4 Aug
2008 16:44:02 -0700> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have
it all?> > That's just in a rollover. And depending on the car's postion and
direction > of travel, could land on the rear corner of the vehicle while
upside down > and take the initial impact. In that situation, I'd rather have
my head > poking past the line of the bar to the hood than the line from the >
windshield to the trunk. Too many varibles to say it won't provide any >
protection. And I'd rather have some protection than none. I'm also > looking
for the bar to protect me from the guy who runs a red light and > slams into
the side of the door.> Or the jacked up SUV that fails to stop and decides to
play monster truck.> > Steve> 70' 1600> > ----- Original Message ----- > > >
You all probably know my opinion on the whole rollbar deal but I'll share > >
it again anyway. The rollbar needs to be tall enough so that when a line > >
is drawn from the roll bar to the front of the car where it will hit the > >
ground, the drivers head will be 2" below the line. For a roadster that > >
means the roll bar needs to be much taller than will fit under a top. > >
Anything less than that will provide no protection (ZERO) to the driver or > >
passenger. It is only for vanity at that point. My advice is to leave > > the
rollbar out and operate the top easily.> >> > Andy>
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From gogineni.alvin at gene.com  Mon Aug  4 18:39:23 2008
From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:39:23 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?
In-Reply-To: <080520080011.3338.48979AC5000376DC00000D0A2200735834CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>
References: <080520080011.3338.48979AC5000376DC00000D0A2200735834CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>
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Don't forget Ken :)
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1093081650049961295Xtrque


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Pete Peters
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 5:12 PM
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?

Yeah, but what will Barbie hang on to?

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Embarq Customer <andycost at embarqmail.com>

[snip]

 My advice is to leave the rollbar out and operate the top easily.
> 
> Andy
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Mon Aug  4 18:44:56 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:44:56 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?
Message-ID: <080520080044.17461.4897A28800004D39000044352200734076CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Hey! That ain't Greg's car.

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Alvin Gogineni <gogineni.alvin at gene.com>
> Don't forget Ken :)
> http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1093081650049961295Xtrque
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Pete Peters
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 5:12 PM
> To: Datsun Roadster List
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?
> 
> Yeah, but what will Barbie hang on to?
> 
> Pete
> 
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Embarq Customer <andycost at embarqmail.com>
> 
> [snip]
> 
>  My advice is to leave the rollbar out and operate the top easily.
> > 
> > Andy
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From chalsted at comcast.net  Mon Aug  4 20:00:28 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:00:28 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Best source for selling a roadster
References: <1BB6DDE801714387AC8122AE44E1244C@XPLaptop>
Message-ID: <00f501c8f69f$08b85430$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

I've sold one at $25k and one at $12,500 both for list members this year. 
they were both very, very nice though. have also sold 4 of my own that I 
built. if you would like for me to try to do this for you,  I will charge 
you a negotiated percentage of the sale price for providing this service, I 
have bills to pay too. anyone else might do it for free for you, that would 
be fine with me, I won't be insulted. but if you want me to look, I will 
need a signed contract with you that if I provide the buyer at any given 
price, upon receipt of funds you will pay me the agreed upon fee or I will 
handle the deal and keep my fee and give the rest to you. I have never asked 
for a contract before, however recent events have shown me that although it 
has been a constant in my life, not everybody will pay you what they promise 
you. on a recent such deal, I ended up receiving 1/4   yes 25%  of what the 
seller had told me he would give me if I sold the car for him at the price I 
sold it for him at- and further told me if I so much as mentioned his name 
or complained or slandered him (don't believe it's slander if I tell the 
truth and I have all the e-mails) he would make sure I didn't get a penny. I 
was broke as crap, unfortunately had to forego my ethics (out him to the 
list) because I had the mortgage to pay and no other way to do it in time. 
took what little he offered me if  I didn't tell anybody...and sucked up and 
kept quiet. at least Pat Mahoney is a straight up guy, wish I could have 
bought his for myself.  so anyhow, next time I provide the service there 
will be a contract. if that doesn't work for you, no problem.  some people 
think it takes a couple minutes of time to sell their car for them- not 
exactly that easy. I also do car locating for folks. pretty good at it too 
actually, can provide references or look at my own personal collection. I do 
better if I sell someone a car I've built myself and have a few on hand 
always that I could have running/driving within a couple days to a couple 
weeks if I was motivated to work on them. playing with roadsters is my sole 
source of income, I'm an old white haired retired guy ;-)  mostly just hang 
out on the end of the mountain contemplating my navel and enjoying the view. 
not really into working particularly hard any more. working on figuring out 
how to pay for my daughter's education now....$6 and change in savings with 
compounded interest since 1986.. had to open the account with $5.   woo-hoo!

Craig

From stebharvey at ameritech.net  Mon Aug  4 20:25:04 2008
From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:25:04 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?
In-Reply-To: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOAEOENMAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
References: <11301747.723751217888137154.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>
	<NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOAEOENMAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <000001c8f6a2$78fe5d90$6afb18b0$@net>

I agree. I spent many hours trying to figure out a roll bar that would
provide protection and still fit under the soft top. If it doesn't connect
to the frame, forget it. Solve that problem then move on to head clearance.
Two inches sound good. The only solution to that problem is recline the seat
(given your current height) so you have the two inches. If you don't have a
5-point harness system all of the above is a mute point. Ask Dale E. He had
the best equipment available and he's still dead. 

I built a roll bar that is connected to the frame, clears the soft and hard
top, provides 2.0" of clearance for my 6.0' body, has a 6 point harness and
has a brake light attached. I still drive the car as if it doesn't have a
roll bar. Remember Murphy's law.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+stebharvey=ameritech.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+stebharvey=ameritech.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Nathaniel Leeds
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 4:29 PM
To: Embarq Customer; Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?

Car safety isn't science. I know that if I had a lab perfect roll-over the
rollbar might not keep my head from getting a pretty good whack. But in real
life all sorts of physically complicated things happen in car crashes. For
my money, I bet that having a good solid piece of metal above is gonna give
you more protection, more often than not -- and I'd dare anyone to get in
enough different types of car crashes to prove it one way or another.

Nathaniel





-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+nmleeds=mindspring.com at autox.team.net
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n Behalf Of Embarq Customer
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:16 PM
To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?


You all probably know my opinion on the whole rollbar deal but I'll share it
again anyway.  The rollbar needs to be tall enough so that when a line is
drawn from the roll bar to the front of the car where it will hit the
ground, the drivers head will be 2" below the line.  For a roadster that
means the roll bar needs to be much taller than will fit under a top.
Anything less than that will provide no protection (ZERO) to the driver or
passenger.  It is only for vanity at that point.  My advice is to leave the
rollbar out and operate the top easily.

Andy
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Mon Aug  4 20:39:54 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:39:54 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?
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 Would like to see your brake light set-up. Good idea for a little car, i think.
Linda


 


 

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From: Steve Harvey <stebharvey at ameritech.net>
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Sent: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 7:25 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?










I agree. I spent many hours trying to figure out a roll bar that would
provide protection and still fit under the soft top. If it doesn't connect
to the frame, forget it. Solve that problem then move on to head clearance.
Two inches sound good. The only solution to that problem is recline the seat
(given your current height) so you have the two inches. If you don't have a
5-point harness system all of the above is a mute point. Ask Dale E. He had
the best equipment available and he's still dead. 

I built a roll bar that is connected to the frame, clears the soft and hard
top, provides 2.0" of clearance for my 6.0' body, has a 6 point harness and
has a brake light attached. I still drive the car as if it doesn't have a
roll bar. Remember Murphy's law.

Steve

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From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Mon Aug  4 22:22:47 2008
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:22:47 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?
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If by "structural" you mean that it will contribute to the stiffness of 
the chassis - it would have to be one hellacious rollbar (think Golden 
Gate Bridge tower - North or South, take your pick) - the Roadster has a 
pretty stout frame. Convertibles are heavier than their hardtop 
counterparts because a hardtop body is a more efficient (strength for 
weight) way of providing torsional stiffness than building stiffness 
into the low plane of a ladder frame.

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

alvin gogineni wrote:

><snip>
>The rollbar is good for a few other reasons:
>1) structural if you mount it to the frame
><snip>

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Mon Aug  4 23:45:08 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:45:08 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?
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So Rollbars

They look cute and intentional. Going along with the angle thingie, the front
end will crush dramatically making the angle below the hood/bonnet and
aligning on the engine. Which even at 5.7 in driver hieght  means death unless
perhaps you have a 5 point harness.

For myself, I drive fast,agressively, but i am always aware of whom is behind
me, whom is alongside of me and i strictly obey the 3 second rule, if not
expanded to 4 seconds. Accidents mostly happen because the 'accentdee'
presumes  that the accidenter knows what they are doing. Given that they
don't, we stay the f&*(K out of their way and rollovers are minimal

Peter

From roadster at astound.net  Tue Aug  5 00:30:03 2008
From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 23:30:03 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?
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Soon after a friend of mine bought a huge 4WD truck, he was telling me  
people were honking their horns at him as he changed lanes, and he  
would swerve back in the nick of time to avoid clobbering the other  
car. I told him he needs to be aware of what's in the next lane. He  
told me it's not his fault he can't see little cars below his right  
door window! OMG! He expected others to get out of his way when he  
changed lanes.

I told him he's going to die of road rage someday unless he learned  
how to be aware of what's around him, or if he would get rid of the  
truck. When I drive, I also try to have an escape route around my car,  
and not to be boxed in with no escape from a bad driver next to me.

Fred - So.SF

On Aug 4, 2008, at 10:45 PM, peter harrison wrote:

> Accidents mostly happen because the 'accentdee'
> presumes  that the accidenter knows what they are doing. Given that  
> they
> don't, we stay the f&*(K out of their way and rollovers are minimal

From racery at comcast.net  Tue Aug  5 07:10:17 2008
From: racery at comcast.net (racery at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:10:17 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Roll bar
Message-ID: <080520081310.16170.48985139000D0EB400003F2A2207300033979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net>

> If you don't have a
>5-point harness system all of the above is a mute point. Ask Dale E. He had
>the best equipment available and he's still dead. 

Did he?  Don't remember him wearing any type of HANS, and he was notorious for not
tightening his harness....  He also went from 150 to 0 mph in 3 feet...  The press
loves to show a F1 car careening down the track, losing pieces as it goes, but the 
real danger is the sudden stop, not the slow, messy one.

I'd almost go so far as to say that any bar is better than no bar, whether it's got
clearace or not, except that you REALLY want to make sure that your melon
can't contact the bar, no matter what.  In a race car, you have a helmet, so it's not
as big a deal, but a frontal impact is a LOT more likely than a rollover in a street
car, so you just DO NOT want to hit your head on that bar...

That's my take, anyhow...

Toby

From dynaguy54 at hotmail.com  Tue Aug  5 07:30:03 2008
From: dynaguy54 at hotmail.com (Pat Mahoney)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 06:30:03 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Best source for selling a roadster
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Last year I had the opportunity to use Craig Halsted to facilitate to sale 
of my '69 2000.  He had posted on this list that he had a buyer interested 
in a nice silver Roadster.  As I had recently finished my car and had 
purchased a '69 sr20 project car, I thought I'd see if I could get a fair 
price for my finished one to help with the costs of the new project.  
Craig's reputation and contacts were invaluable, and lead to the sale.  We 
agreed upon his fee, which I was happy to pay.  He helped the buyer with 
shipping ?'s and was fair and honest to deal with.  Because of Craig, I was 
able to sell my car from out here in podunk Idaho to a qualified buyer in 
Florida.  It was well worth the price of his services.  Pat Mahoney


>From: "barterdude" <barterdude at comcast.net>
>Reply-To: barterdude at comcast.net
>To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Roadsters] Best source for selling a roadster
>Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:50:26 -0600
>
>Didn't have much success the last time playing with EBay trying to sell my
>1970 2000 roadster.  Wondering if any has had experience with 
>AutoTrader.com
>or any other source to find a qualified buyer for cars in the range of 5 -
>10 K in price?
>
>
>
>Gary Lasater

From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Tue Aug  5 07:54:59 2008
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 06:54:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?
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The best way to develop situational awareness (S.A.) on the road is to ride a motorcycle. I got my learner's permit at 15-1/2, license at 16 - for a motorcycle only ('cuz I had a motorcycle only - my folks said that when I could buy a car, I could get a license for a car). You learn very quickly on a bike (and mine was small, a Yamaha 100cc twin) that you are effectively invisible - and you are very vulnerable. I have had the drivers of oncoming vehicles look me right in the eye... and turn left in front of me anyway.

The S.A. skills I learned as a callow youth have served me well in 35+ years on the road (it didn't hurt that, with a father who was a CHP officer, I heard a lot of rather sobering stories about the possible  consequences of inattention on the road, as well as reading CHP magazine every month and seeing the photos accompanying the accident reports...).

Of course, these are DEFENSIVE driving skills, and unfortunately there are many people out there, like Fred's friend with the huge 4WD truck, who practice OFFENSIVE driving - all the more reason for the rest of us to develop good S.A.

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

Fred Katz <roadster at astound.net> wrote: Soon after a friend of mine bought a huge 4WD truck, he was telling me  
people were honking their horns at him as he changed lanes, and he  
would swerve back in the nick of time to avoid clobbering the other  
car. I told him he needs to be aware of what's in the next lane. He  
told me it's not his fault he can't see little cars below his right  
door window! OMG! He expected others to get out of his way when he  
changed lanes.

I told him he's going to die of road rage someday unless he learned  
how to be aware of what's around him, or if he would get rid of the  
truck. When I drive, I also try to have an escape route around my car,  
and not to be boxed in with no escape from a bad driver next to me.

Fred - So.SF

On Aug 4, 2008, at 10:45 PM, peter harrison wrote:

> Accidents mostly happen because the 'accentdee'
> presumes  that the accidenter knows what they are doing. Given that  
> they
> don't, we stay the f&*(K out of their way and rollovers are minimal
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From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net  Tue Aug  5 08:04:54 2008
From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 07:04:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Datsun Roadster - Fire
Message-ID: <591830.97068.qm@web81705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

http://www.cullmantimes.com/local/local_story_211221159.html
   
  July 29, 2008 10:11 pm  
  Fire burns Vinemont building, classic car
  The Cullman Times

  By Patrick McCreless

PATRICKM at CULLMANTIMES.COM

VINEMONT  Carlos Wilhite spent years keeping his 1970 Datsun 1600 Roadster in mint condition. A quick spark was all it took to wipe out his hard work.

I babied it and babied it, Wilhite said. Now its all burned up.

Charred, twisted metal was all that remained of the classic car after it caught fire Tuesday at an unused building on County Road 1343 across from the Vinemont Super Saver service station. The building also received significant damage.

Wilhite, who owns the building, said he was storing the vehicle there to keep dust off of it.

The building I can fix, but I cant bring the car back, Wilhite said.

While officials have not determined the cause of the blaze, to Wilhite the cause is obvious  his classic car.

I was cleaning the building and I was going to leave with the car but the car wouldnt crank, Wilhite said. I put the charger on it and left and wasnt gone for 20 minutes ... and it was burnt all to pieces.

Wilhite was at the scene while members of the Vinemont, Cullman, West Point, Goldridge, and Falkville Fire Departments fought the blaze. While flames were not visible, large clouds of gray smoke could easily be seen billowing from the buildings roof. Several firefighters helped Wilhite as he rescued an old piano from building.

According to a press release from the Vinemont Fire Department, firefighters arrived at the scene at approximately 10:23 a.m. Upon arrival at the scene, firefighters could see heavy smoke and smoldering. 

Firefighters contained the blaze within an hour after their arrival. Nobody was injured during the incident.

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Tue Aug  5 08:47:12 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:47:12 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Roll bar
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 Dale Earnhardt had that sudden stop when he was killed. Many were amazed that such a seemingly "little" accident could end his life. But he did go into the wall pretty directly. 
My own personal theory was that he had a heart attack. He had a person as well as family history of heart disease.

Linda


 


 

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Subject: [Roadsters] Roll bar



..?The press loves to show a F1 car careening down the track, losing pieces as it goes, but the real danger is the sudden stop, not the slow, messy one.

From stl at adnc.com  Tue Aug  5 09:21:45 2008
From: stl at adnc.com (stl at adnc.com)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:21:45 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?
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Whether its called defensive driving or staying "the f&*(K out of
their way," it boils down to driving like you are invisible to the
vehicles around you.

And also, not flipping-off the 4WD truck when it changes lanes like
you weren't there, doesn't swerve back, and runs you off the road.

A friend driving a '69 MGB had that happen last week.  The guys in the
truck that had changed lanes into him and forced him into the center
divider responded to his one-finger salute by tossing cans of coke at
him that bounced off his windshield and narrowly missed clobbering
him.  At 70 MPH on a busy freeway it could have been fatal.

Steve
'69 2000
San Diego



Quoting Fred Katz <roadster at astound.net>:

> Soon after a friend of mine bought a huge 4WD truck, he was telling me
> people were honking their horns at him as he changed lanes, and he
> would swerve back in the nick of time to avoid clobbering the other
> car. I told him he needs to be aware of what's in the next lane. He
> told me it's not his fault he can't see little cars below his right
> door window! OMG! He expected others to get out of his way when he
> changed lanes.
>
> I told him he's going to die of road rage someday unless he learned
> how to be aware of what's around him, or if he would get rid of the
> truck. When I drive, I also try to have an escape route around my car,
> and not to be boxed in with no escape from a bad driver next to me.
>
> Fred - So.SF
>
> On Aug 4, 2008, at 10:45 PM, peter harrison wrote:
>
>> Accidents mostly happen because the 'accentdee'
>> presumes  that the accidenter knows what they are doing. Given that
>> they
>> don't, we stay the f&*(K out of their way and rollovers are minimal
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From solex675 at hotmail.com  Tue Aug  5 09:55:34 2008
From: solex675 at hotmail.com (Andrew Murphy)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:55:34 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Datsun Roadster - Fire
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It's always heartbreaking when you read a story like this. A few years ago, we
had devestating wild fires in Southern California that burned hundreds of
homes in the greater San Diego and Orange County areas. A great guy by the
name of Barrie Strahan lost an incredibly beautiful custom 66 roadster that I
remember very well. I can only hope the guy took a lot of pictures...

Andrew Murphy
1966 1600> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 07:04:54 -0700> From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Datsun Roadster
- Fire> > http://www.cullmantimes.com/local/local_story_211221159.html> > July
29, 2008 10:11 pm > Fire burns Vinemont building, classic car> The Cullman
Times> > By Patrick McCreless> > PATRICKM at CULLMANTIMES.COM> > VINEMONT 
Carlos Wilhite spent years keeping his 1970 Datsun 1600 Roadster in mint
condition. A quick spark was all it took to wipe out his hard work.> > I
babied it and babied it, Wilhite said. Now its all burned up.> > Charred,
twisted metal was all that remained of the classic car after it caught fire
Tuesday at an unused building on County Road 1343 across from the Vinemont
Super Saver service station. The building also received significant damage.> >
Wilhite, who owns the building, said he was storing the vehicle there to keep
dust off of it.> > The building I can fix, but I cant bring the car back,
Wilhite said.> > While officials have not determined the cause of the blaze,
to Wilhite the cause is obvious  his classic car.> > I was cleaning the
building and I was going to leave with the car but the car wouldnt crank,
Wilhite said. I put the charger on it and left and wasnt gone for 20 minutes
... and it was burnt all to pieces.> > Wilhite was at the scene while members
of the Vinemont, Cullman, West Point, Goldridge, and Falkville Fire
Departments fought the blaze. While flames were not visible, large clouds of
gray smoke could easily be seen billowing from the buildings roof. Several
firefighters helped Wilhite as he rescued an old piano from building.> >
According to a press release from the Vinemont Fire Department, firefighters
arrived at the scene at approximately 10:23 a.m. Upon arrival at the scene,
firefighters could see heavy smoke and smoldering. >
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From gregs672liter at netzero.net  Tue Aug  5 10:37:11 2008
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:37:11 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] Best source for selling a roadster
Message-ID: <20080805.093711.14559.0@webmail08.vgs.untd.com>

Dear listers, ya, I know I should probably not write this as it is not really
"Roadster" related (but to me it is), but when I read this posting by Craig,
my heart just sank.  I watch what goes on in politics, business, and society,
and I just ask "Where is the Honor and Integrity?"   I work in an ER as a
Social Worker, 9 years as a therapist, so I have no illusions about people.
But I mean really... at the end of the day you should be able to look yourself
in the mirror and hold your head high... not because you have money, status, a
nice car, etc, but because you have Honor, no matter what.  I know that in any
group you are going to have people who share your interest in things and
hobbies (Roadsters in this case) who do not have Honor, but the vast majority
of my experiences with "Roadster people" have been positive.  ALL my friends
in the past 25 years have come from my Roadster.  People like what Craig has
recently experienced are not truly Roadster people to me.  They lack Honor.  I
guarantee that lack will come back to haunt them... just ask any of the
hundreds of people I have worked with.  And then they wonder why their lives
are so screwed up.  Duh.
If I am reaching anyone out there who lacks Honor and Integrity, it is not too
late to change your ways.  It is not hard.  You just do it.  Do it today.  You
make the choice.  You don't bullshit yourself anymore.  I've watched some
people who were pretty low in life step up.  You can too.
And now, back to our regularly scheduled Roadster discussion...
"And so there I was, doing at least 130mph, when I shifted out of 3rd gear,
and the guy in the Porsche is just lookin' at me, and I see actual fear on his
face, and his girlfriend is kinda given me the eye..."
Greg Burrows, M.S.
67 2000
Bonney Lake, WA

-- "chalsted" <chalsted at comcast.net> wrote:
on a recent such deal, I ended up receiving 1/4   yes 25%  of what the
seller had told me he would give me if I sold the car for him at the price I
sold it for him at- and further told me if I so much as mentioned his name
or complained or slandered him (don't believe it's slander if I tell the
truth and I have all the e-mails) he would make sure I didn't get a penny.
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From tputland at charter.net  Tue Aug  5 10:51:01 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 9:51:01 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Best source for selling a roadster
In-Reply-To: <20080805.093711.14559.0@webmail08.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <20080805125102.DJ7WD.19555.root@mp11>

Amen and well said. 

130 mph in 3rd? Oh I want a car that will do that sooooo bad. 


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- "gregs672liter at netzero.net" <gregs672liter at netzero.net> wrote: 

=============
Dear listers, ya, I know I should probably not write this as it is not really
"Roadster" related (but to me it is), but when I read this posting by Craig,
my heart just sank.  I watch what goes on in politics, business, and society,
and I just ask "Where is the Honor and Integrity?"   I work in an ER as a
Social Worker, 9 years as a therapist, so I have no illusions about people.
But I mean really... at the end of the day you should be able to look yourself
in the mirror and hold your head high... not because you have money, status, a
nice car, etc, but because you have Honor, no matter what.  I know that in any
group you are going to have people who share your interest in things and
hobbies (Roadsters in this case) who do not have Honor, but the vast majority
of my experiences with "Roadster people" have been positive.  ALL my friends
in the past 25 years have come from my Roadster.  People like what Craig has
recently experienced are not truly Roadster people to me.  They lack Honor.  I
guarantee that lack will come back to haunt them... just ask any of the
hundreds of people I have worked with.  And then they wonder why their lives
are so screwed up.  Duh.
If I am reaching anyone out there who lacks Honor and Integrity, it is not too
late to change your ways.  It is not hard.  You just do it.  Do it today.  You
make the choice.  You don't bullshit yourself anymore.  I've watched some
people who were pretty low in life step up.  You can too.
And now, back to our regularly scheduled Roadster discussion...
"And so there I was, doing at least 130mph, when I shifted out of 3rd gear,
and the guy in the Porsche is just lookin' at me, and I see actual fear on his
face, and his girlfriend is kinda given me the eye..."
Greg Burrows, M.S.
67 2000
Bonney Lake, WA

-- "chalsted" <chalsted at comcast.net> wrote:
on a recent such deal, I ended up receiving 1/4   yes 25%  of what the
seller had told me he would give me if I sold the car for him at the price I
sold it for him at- and further told me if I so much as mentioned his name
or complained or slandered him (don't believe it's slander if I tell the
truth and I have all the e-mails) he would make sure I didn't get a penny.

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Aug  5 11:12:29 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:12:29 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 130mph in third....
In-Reply-To: <20080805125102.DJ7WD.19555.root@mp11>
Message-ID: <B20A0282EE064BBD839791795CF64774@xp>

We didn't do 130, but I can vouch that Greg's 67.5 2000 is a rocket! Looking
forward to its fresh bodywork and paint.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:51 AM
To: gregs672liter at netzero.net; datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Best source for selling a roadster


[snip]

130 mph in 3rd? Oh I want a car that will do that sooooo bad.


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- "gregs672liter at netzero.net" <gregs672liter at netzero.net> wrote:

[snip]

And now, back to our regularly scheduled Roadster discussion...

 "And so there I was, doing at least 130mph, when I shifted out of 3rd gear,
and the guy in the Porsche is just lookin' at me, and I see actual fear on
his face, and his girlfriend is kinda given me the eye..."

Greg Burrows, M.S.
67 2000 Bonney Lake, WA

From lars.tungen at abaris.no  Tue Aug  5 11:22:13 2008
From: lars.tungen at abaris.no (Lars Tungen)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 19:22:13 +0200
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster Vin Decoder
Message-ID: <00d001c8f71f$cd5cb170$353ea8c0@ABARIS.LOCAL>

Hi all,

I have created a Roadster Vin# decoder. The idea is that you can enter a
vin# and get some useful information about the car. Consider it an untested
beta. Currently it will recognize the 311 1600 & 2000, 310 1500 and the
CSP311. If you have suggestions on how to improve the output or see any
errors, please let me know. I plan to add an estimated engine# output by
using the vin & engine numbers I collected earlier. 

I also have some questions regarding the implementation of the decoder that
I hope someone can answer:

When was the later style gear box (Warner) introduced? The current
implementation of the decoder assumes that all 1970's have the Warner, while
all early 1969 and earlier have the Porsche style. Late 1969's may have the
Warner or the Porsche style. Is this correct?

Is it possible to distinguish between 1965, 1966 and early 1967 model years
by looking at the vin#? 

Phill Brook's Fair Lady book suggests that 17 Silvia's were made in 1964
before the "official" production start in may 1965. Are these prototypes,
and what engines did they have?


The vin decoder is available here:

http://datsun311.partsmanual.net/ModelYearsVin/tabid/304/Default.aspx

And here's a tiny url if the link above get's broken by the mail system:
http://tinyurl.com/6gjgej


Regards,
Lars Tungen
Norway

From tputland at charter.net  Tue Aug  5 11:23:57 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:23:57 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Best source for selling a roadster
In-Reply-To: <20080805.101422.14559.2@webmail08.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <20080805132357.8SQQ7.21115.root@mp11>

well, yea, I figured that but I forgot the little ;-) guy at the end of that line. And one can always dream!

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- "gregs672liter at netzero.net" <gregs672liter at netzero.net> wrote: 

=============
Thanks...
130mph... ha!  Ya right... just wanted to "lighten things up a bit!"
Greg

-- Tim <tputland at charter.net> wrote:
Amen and well said. 

130 mph in 3rd? Oh I want a car that will do that sooooo bad. 


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- "gregs672liter at netzero.net" <gregs672liter at netzero.net> wrote: 

=============
Dear listers, ya, I know I should probably not write this as it is not really
"Roadster" related (but to me it is), but when I read this posting by Craig,
my heart just sank.  I watch what goes on in politics, business, and society,
and I just ask "Where is the Honor and Integrity?"   I work in an ER as a
Social Worker, 9 years as a therapist, so I have no illusions about people.
But I mean really... at the end of the day you should be able to look yourself
in the mirror and hold your head high... not because you have money, status, a
nice car, etc, but because you have Honor, no matter what.  I know that in any
group you are going to have people who share your interest in things and
hobbies (Roadsters in this case) who do not have Honor, but the vast majority
of my experiences with "Roadster people" have been positive.  ALL my friends
in the past 25 years have come from my Roadster.  People like what Craig has
recently experienced are not truly Roadster people to me.  They lack Honor.  I
guarantee that lack will come back to haunt them... just ask any of the
hundreds of people I have worked with.  And then they wonder why their lives
are so screwed up.  Duh.
If I am reaching anyone out there who lacks Honor and Integrity, it is not too
late to change your ways.  It is not hard.  You just do it.  Do it today.  You
make the choice.  You don't bullshit yourself anymore.  I've watched some
people who were pretty low in life step up.  You can too.
And now, back to our regularly scheduled Roadster discussion...
"And so there I was, doing at least 130mph, when I shifted out of 3rd gear,
and the guy in the Porsche is just lookin' at me, and I see actual fear on his
face, and his girlfriend is kinda given me the eye..."
Greg Burrows, M.S.
67 2000
Bonney Lake, WA

-- "chalsted" <chalsted at comcast.net> wrote:
on a recent such deal, I ended up receiving 1/4   yes 25%  of what the
seller had told me he would give me if I sold the car for him at the price I
sold it for him at- and further told me if I so much as mentioned his name
or complained or slandered him (don't believe it's slander if I tell the
truth and I have all the e-mails) he would make sure I didn't get a penny.

____________________________________________________________
Click here to increase your salary by earning an online degree.
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Aug  5 11:57:31 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:57:31 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster Vin Decoder
In-Reply-To: <00d001c8f71f$cd5cb170$353ea8c0@ABARIS.LOCAL>
Message-ID: <676731B95AF64F168BD342D9EB8257EC@xp>

Very cool, Lars. You might consider changing the text and/or background
color/shading of the Model & Production grid. Hard to read black text on
dark gray background.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Lars Tungen
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 10:22 AM
To: 'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster Vin Decoder


Hi all,

I have created a Roadster Vin# decoder. The idea is that you can enter a
vin# and get some useful information about the car. Consider it an untested
beta. Currently it will recognize the 311 1600 & 2000, 310 1500 and the
CSP311. If you have suggestions on how to improve the output or see any
errors, please let me know. I plan to add an estimated engine# output by
using the vin & engine numbers I collected earlier.

I also have some questions regarding the implementation of the decoder that
I hope someone can answer:

When was the later style gear box (Warner) introduced? The current
implementation of the decoder assumes that all 1970's have the Warner, while
all early 1969 and earlier have the Porsche style. Late 1969's may have the
Warner or the Porsche style. Is this correct?

Is it possible to distinguish between 1965, 1966 and early 1967 model years
by looking at the vin#?

Phill Brook's Fair Lady book suggests that 17 Silvia's were made in 1964
before the "official" production start in may 1965. Are these prototypes,
and what engines did they have?


The vin decoder is available here:

http://datsun311.partsmanual.net/ModelYearsVin/tabid/304/Default.aspx

And here's a tiny url if the link above get's broken by the mail system:
http://tinyurl.com/6gjgej


Regards,
Lars Tungen
Norway
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From stamuki at gmail.com  Tue Aug  5 11:58:50 2008
From: stamuki at gmail.com (D Riedel)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:58:50 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws
In-Reply-To: <48906EDC.18416.98055B@localhost>
References: <002101c8f24f$6c67f6b0$6401a8c0@useravjfzd6udp>
	<48906EDC.18416.98055B@localhost>
Message-ID: <ae1f75970808051058t690a72d0qb54fcef453cde6bb@mail.gmail.com>

Well... after 2 days soak, reapplication of penetrant and heat, 5 of 8
screws came out of the visor/rear-view/roof-clamp apparatus.  On the
remaining 3, I twisted the heads off.  Damn.  Luckily, 3 of the 4 in
the centre came out, so could I throw the rear-view mirror back on
temporarily.  Any nifty tricks for solving my new problem of broken
screw extraction?

-- 
Dave Riedel
'69 2000
Victoria, BC

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Aug  5 12:05:46 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:05:46 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws
In-Reply-To: <ae1f75970808051058t690a72d0qb54fcef453cde6bb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ED188AB09CDA48D6B6C231CF42DB7EDB@xp>

Very carefully.... :--(

EZ-Outs (yeah, yeah, I know), or maybe the Drill-Out/Screw-Out items I saw
in the Craftsman catalog. Anyone have any experience with these?

<http://tinyurl.com/6m9v6g>

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of D Riedel
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 10:59 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws


Well... after 2 days soak, reapplication of penetrant and heat, 5 of 8
screws came out of the visor/rear-view/roof-clamp apparatus.  On the
remaining 3, I twisted the heads off.  Damn.  Luckily, 3 of the 4 in the
centre came out, so could I throw the rear-view mirror back on temporarily.
Any nifty tricks for solving my new problem of broken screw extraction?

-- 
Dave Riedel
'69 2000
Victoria, BC
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From stamuki at gmail.com  Tue Aug  5 12:13:59 2008
From: stamuki at gmail.com (D Riedel)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:13:59 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 90-copper elbow on 2000 valve cover
Message-ID: <ae1f75970808051113y31b9a6abq35b99c2d9f15bb5f@mail.gmail.com>

Todd, I noticed in a message from the archives that you epoxied a 1/2"
90 deg copper elbow to your valve cover to allow you to use a generic
section of hose for your PCV.  On my valve cover, the elbow doesn't
fit over the original fitting. Did you heat it up to slip it on, or
did you just epoxy it butted together?

-- 
Dave Riedel
'69 2000
Victoria, BC

From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Tue Aug  5 12:30:56 2008
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:30:56 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws,
	Now: Screw extraction
Message-ID: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755DE549E3@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>

<<  Any nifty tricks for solving my new problem of broken screw
extraction?  >>

Now this one I have done, both to mine and with Eric on his car.

-if sharp and angled, (usally is) dremel a bit off so you have a flat
-use a center punch to mark a divot so your drill stays put
-1/8" or smaller drill bit, make a small hole.  Use coolant, take your
time, these break easily.
-drill incrementally larger holes until you can get an "EZ-Out" (just a
pseudonym, not really that easy), which for this small size is not
reverse threaded, it is more commonly a square peg that you pound into
the round hole and twist with a wrench
-I was finaly successful just drilling larger and larger until all the
remains fell out, then tapped it for one size larger.

Good luck, get comfy, you'll be there a while.

Fergus O

From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Tue Aug  5 12:46:37 2008
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (Nathaniel Leeds)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:46:37 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Getting cars towed cross country -- anyone done
	this?
In-Reply-To: <B20A0282EE064BBD839791795CF64774@xp>
Message-ID: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOOEPANMAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>

All,

Thankfully this is an un-Datsun related question. But I am faced with trying
to get a Fiat 124 from L.A. to Colorado. The Fiat 124, the car that launched
a thousand third world imitations, is not really up to crossing the
Rockies -- 65 hp, 2000 lbs. makes for ugly math.

Does anyone have an affordable transporter they trust?

Nathaniel
Real Car: SU-U20 '69

From tputland at charter.net  Tue Aug  5 12:52:18 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:52:18 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Getting cars towed cross country -- anyone done
 this?
In-Reply-To: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOOEPANMAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <20080805145218.9E1VO.25434.root@mp11>

I used Intercity Lines when I had my Dad's Roadster brought from Northern CA to me here in WI. Dad said they were very professional on his end and I feel the same about my end. And the car actually made it to me a day or two quicker than they said it would. They are not the cheapest, but I was warned away from the cheaper ones for a couple main reasons: Most did not offer covered transport and mainly, I was told the less scrupulous drivers might try to get more money out of me to unload the car. 

My .02

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- Nathaniel Leeds <nmleeds at mindspring.com> wrote: 

=============
All,

Thankfully this is an un-Datsun related question. But I am faced with trying
to get a Fiat 124 from L.A. to Colorado. The Fiat 124, the car that launched
a thousand third world imitations, is not really up to crossing the
Rockies -- 65 hp, 2000 lbs. makes for ugly math.

Does anyone have an affordable transporter they trust?

Nathaniel
Real Car: SU-U20 '69
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Tue Aug  5 13:39:23 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:39:23 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Best source for selling a roadster
In-Reply-To: <20080805.093711.14559.0@webmail08.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20080805.093711.14559.0@webmail08.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <8CAC54A1851A27E-13EC-18E7@webmail-ne12.sysops.aol.com>

 Right on, Greg. And those same low-lifers wind up begging someone to save them in the ER, perhaps realizing that Karma maybe about to bite them in the 
a**.

Linda


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net <gregs672liter at netzero.net>
To: chalsted at comcast.net
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 9:37 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Best source for selling a roadster










Dear listers, ya, I know I should probably not write this as it is not really
"Roadster" related (but to me it is), but when I read this posting by Craig,
my heart just sank.  I watch what goes on in politics, business, and society,
and I just ask "Where is the Honor and Integrity?"   I work in an ER as a
Social Worker, 9 years as a therapist, so I have no illusions about people.
But I mean really... at the end of the day you should be able to look yourself
in the mirror and hold your head high... not because you have money, status, a
nice car, etc, but because you have Honor, no matter what.  I know that in any
group you are going to have people who share your interest in things and
hobbies (Roadsters in this case) who do not have Honor, but the vast majority
of my experiences with "Roadster people" have been positive.  ALL my friends
in the past 25 years have come from my Roadster.  People like what Craig has
recently experienced are not truly Roadster people to me.  They lack Honor.  I
guarantee that lack will come back to haunt them... just ask any of the
hundreds of people I have worked with.  And then they wonder why their lives
are so screwed up.  Duh.
If I am reaching anyone out there who lacks Honor and Integrity, it is not too
late to change your ways.  It is not hard.  You just do it.  Do it today.  You
make the choice.  You don't bullshit yourself anymore.  I've watched some
people who were pretty low in life step up.  You can too.
And now, back to our regularly scheduled Roadster discussion...
"And so there I was, doing at least 130mph, when I shifted out of 3rd gear,
and the guy in the Porsche is just lookin' at me, and I see actual fear on his
face, and his girlfriend is kinda given me the eye..."
Greg Burrows, M.S.
67 2000
Bonney Lake, WA

--

From printner at att.net  Tue Aug  5 14:50:11 2008
From: printner at att.net (Tim Waltz)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:50:11 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws
In-Reply-To: <ae1f75970808051058t690a72d0qb54fcef453cde6bb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <002101c8f24f$6c67f6b0$6401a8c0@useravjfzd6udp>
	<48906EDC.18416.98055B@localhost>
	<ae1f75970808051058t690a72d0qb54fcef453cde6bb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <008901c8f73c$dab87800$90296800$@net>

You were talking about the roadster, correct?

:-)

(hey, it's funnier than a spelling thread)

Tim
------------------------
Well... after 2 days soak, penetrant and heat, 5 of 8
Screws...

From notmgb at gmail.com  Tue Aug  5 17:35:16 2008
From: notmgb at gmail.com (NotMGB)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 19:35:16 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Ethics - was: Best source for selling a roadster
Message-ID: <9a562e060808051635j5efa13fbx6bda40984fa32cb9@mail.gmail.com>

I am wondering exactly what is ethical myself.

Is it ethical to say on the 28th


selling parts is not a profit making venture, it merely offsets the
expenses of having a roadster
obsession, a labor of love. if you folks don't have the decency, honesty, and
integrity to appreciate that

And say a week later:

playing with roadsters is my sole source of income, I'm an old white
haired retired guy ;-)


Is it ethical to tell the woman in Redding you will give her car a
good home, then tell the list you were going to use it to re-body
another car?
Is it ethical to say you have been looking for a 67.5 body for the
last 20 years, when you have had some at your house in the last 2
years?
Is it ethical to buy a 67 2000 on the list for $4K with rare parts an
offer it up on the same list 3 weeks later for $4K without the parts?

Can someone clear this ethics thing up for me?

From mark at dealermats.com  Tue Aug  5 17:44:32 2008
From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 19:44:32 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Ethics - was: Best source for selling a  roadster
References: <9a562e060808051635j5efa13fbx6bda40984fa32cb9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C1D67356B071425B822FD2B81E746D9E@LAPTOP>

Is it ethical for you to come here and not sign your name?  I have known 
Craig for 10+ years, he is a good guy just looking to make ends meet.  You 
are a coward. Crawl back in your hole.

Mark

--------------------------------------------------
From: "NotMGB" <notmgb at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 7:35 PM
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Roadsters] Ethics - was: Best source for selling a roadster

> I am wondering exactly what is ethical myself.
>
> Is it ethical to say on the 28th
>
>
> selling parts is not a profit making venture, it merely offsets the
> expenses of having a roadster
> obsession, a labor of love. if you folks don't have the decency, honesty, 
> and
> integrity to appreciate that
>
> And say a week later:
>
> playing with roadsters is my sole source of income, I'm an old white
> haired retired guy ;-)
>
>
> Is it ethical to tell the woman in Redding you will give her car a
> good home, then tell the list you were going to use it to re-body
> another car?
> Is it ethical to say you have been looking for a 67.5 body for the
> last 20 years, when you have had some at your house in the last 2
> years?
> Is it ethical to buy a 67 2000 on the list for $4K with rare parts an
> offer it up on the same list 3 weeks later for $4K without the parts?
>
> Can someone clear this ethics thing up for me?
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Aug  5 17:53:52 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:53:52 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Getting cars towed cross country -- anyone done
 this?
Message-ID: <080520082353.11815.4898E81000011B3800002E272213575333CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

I used Wolfe Transport to get my roadster from San Jose, CA to Seattle, WA. Cost $450. Very professional on the phone, and no problems with the driver/delivery.

The only thing I would do different next time is to arrange covered transport as my soft top front grommets got torn out, which I didn't notice until weeks later.

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Nathaniel Leeds" <nmleeds at mindspring.com>
> All,
> 
> Thankfully this is an un-Datsun related question. But I am faced with trying
> to get a Fiat 124 from L.A. to Colorado. The Fiat 124, the car that launched
> a thousand third world imitations, is not really up to crossing the
> Rockies -- 65 hp, 2000 lbs. makes for ugly math.
> 
> Does anyone have an affordable transporter they trust?
> 
> Nathaniel
> Real Car: SU-U20 '69
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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Tue Aug  5 17:58:29 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 19:58:29 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Ethics - was: Best source for selling a  roadster
References: <9a562e060808051635j5efa13fbx6bda40984fa32cb9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <007b01c8f757$2cb16da0$e221ffd8@hpcustomer>

----- Original Message -----
From: NotMGB <notmgb at gmail.com>


> I am wondering exactly what is ethical myself.
>
> Is it ethical to say on the 28th
> selling parts is not a profit making venture, it merely offsets the
> expenses of having a roadster  obsession, a labor of love. if you folks
>don't have the decency, honesty, and integrity to appreciate that
>
> And say a week later:
>
> playing with roadsters is my sole source of income, I'm an old white
> haired retired guy ;-)

  Craig sells roadster parts for fun, makes a living off of buying and
selling cars, boats, motorcycles, motorhomes, and darn near anything else.
Nothing unethical there.

>
> Is it ethical to tell the woman in Redding you will give her car a
> good home, then tell the list you were going to use it to re-body
> another car?

  So maybe he should have said HOMES.  But most of the car would have staid
intact.

> Is it ethical to say you have been looking for a 67.5 body for the
> last 20 years, when you have had some at your house in the last 2
> years?

  Craig has many roadsters at his place.  But most suffer from east coast
ravages of rust.  He has been looking for a 'great' body for his 67.5 since
I've known him (10+ years).

> Is it ethical to buy a 67 2000 on the list for $4K with rare parts an
> offer it up on the same list 3 weeks later for $4K without the parts?

  Please, he paid the asking price for the car.  Nothing even remotely
unethical about that.  I suppose if WalMart was selling something at a
fraction of what you thought it was worth, you'd argue with them to pay
more?
  Asking price is always set by the sellier.  Selling price is negotiated
between buyer and seller.  I see nothing unethical with that either.  Sort
of sounds like American way!
>
> Can someone clear this ethics thing up for me?

  Ethics is what you do when some one is watching.  Morals are what you do
when nobody is watching.  Craig knows his market and works hard to make a
living while having fun.  Anything else I can help you with?

Paul
Ohio

From virtualmaniac at hotmail.com  Tue Aug  5 18:22:00 2008
From: virtualmaniac at hotmail.com (David Mohammed)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:22:00 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Getting cars towed cross country -- anyone done
 this?
In-Reply-To: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOOEPANMAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
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One place you can check out is Uship.com. They let you put in the price you
are wanting to pay and then shippers will bid for your job. The lady I sold my
roadster to was able to ship her car enclosed for $600 from FL to TX. It just
happened the shipper was going that way and had a space left on the trailer.

David.

> From: nmleeds at mindspring.com
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:46:37 -0700
> Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Getting cars towed cross country -- anyone done
this?
>
> All,
>
> Thankfully this is an un-Datsun related question. But I am faced with
trying
> to get a Fiat 124 from L.A. to Colorado. The Fiat 124, the car that
launched
> a thousand third world imitations, is not really up to crossing the
> Rockies -- 65 hp, 2000 lbs. makes for ugly math.
>
> Does anyone have an affordable transporter they trust?
>
> Nathaniel
> Real Car: SU-U20 '69
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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Tue Aug  5 19:16:39 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:16:39 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] A little OT but not too bad,
 the slow carb guy and social  security
Message-ID: <bf2.340f891e.35ca5577@aol.com>

Hello all,
 
    A some of you know I was diagnosed with CFS about  four years ago. After 
being turned down by social security three time I finally  had a hearing 
before the judge today. Not only did he agree that I am disabled  he made it 
retroactive back to when I left work in '04. We are all pretty much  stunned. After 
four years of battles with my insurance and social security there  is finally 
a bit of sanity. 
 
Now, back to our normally scheduled squabbling,
 
Keith "the slow carb guy" williams



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From aultgc at att.net  Tue Aug  5 19:51:57 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:51:57 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Getting cars towed cross country -- anyone
 donethis?
References: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOOEPANMAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <001d01c8f767$02af8a90$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

Nathaniel,

I just had my "new" '67-1/2 2000 shipped from San Diego to Chicago by 
Intercity Lines.  Enclosed transport, very professional.  Not the cheapest, 
but great service and the car arrived in immaculate condition.  There were 
two other roadsters on the truck at the same time, destined for 
Indianapolis.  All of us have a lot of money in our cars, so I didn't want 
to take any chances.

Send me an E-mail address and I'll send you the pics of the loading process.

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nathaniel Leeds" <nmleeds at mindspring.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 1:46 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Getting cars towed cross country -- anyone 
donethis?


> All,
>
> Thankfully this is an un-Datsun related question. But I am faced with 
> trying
> to get a Fiat 124 from L.A. to Colorado. The Fiat 124, the car that 
> launched
> a thousand third world imitations, is not really up to crossing the
> Rockies -- 65 hp, 2000 lbs. makes for ugly math.
>
> Does anyone have an affordable transporter they trust?
>
> Nathaniel
> Real Car: SU-U20 '69
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From aultgc at att.net  Tue Aug  5 19:57:33 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:57:33 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 130mph in third....
References: <B20A0282EE064BBD839791795CF64774@xp>
Message-ID: <003d01c8f767$cb3f13e0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

I used to like rockets. I still do, up to about 80 mph.  That's usually 
enough to convince whomever wlse is around that they don't have a chance. 
After that, I enjoy a nice ride more.

No disparagement of Grag's car intended.  Just my priorities are different 
now than when I had the interesting encounter with the CHP 35 years ago....

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 12:12 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] 130mph in third....


> We didn't do 130, but I can vouch that Greg's 67.5 2000 is a rocket! 
> Looking
> forward to its fresh bodywork and paint.
>
> Pete
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Tim
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:51 AM
> To: gregs672liter at netzero.net; datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Best source for selling a roadster
>
>
> [snip]
>
> 130 mph in 3rd? Oh I want a car that will do that sooooo bad.
>
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
>
> ---- "gregs672liter at netzero.net" <gregs672liter at netzero.net> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> And now, back to our regularly scheduled Roadster discussion...
>
> "And so there I was, doing at least 130mph, when I shifted out of 3rd 
> gear,
> and the guy in the Porsche is just lookin' at me, and I see actual fear on
> his face, and his girlfriend is kinda given me the eye..."
>
> Greg Burrows, M.S.
> 67 2000 Bonney Lake, WA
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From aultgc at att.net  Tue Aug  5 20:19:00 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:19:00 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Ethics - was: Best source for selling a   roadster
References: <9a562e060808051635j5efa13fbx6bda40984fa32cb9@mail.gmail.com>
	<007b01c8f757$2cb16da0$e221ffd8@hpcustomer>
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Amen, Paul.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>; "NotMGB" <notmgb at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ethics - was: Best source for selling a roadster


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: NotMGB <notmgb at gmail.com>
>
>
>> I am wondering exactly what is ethical myself.
>>
>> Is it ethical to say on the 28th
>> selling parts is not a profit making venture, it merely offsets the
>> expenses of having a roadster  obsession, a labor of love. if you folks
>>don't have the decency, honesty, and integrity to appreciate that
>>
>> And say a week later:
>>
>> playing with roadsters is my sole source of income, I'm an old white
>> haired retired guy ;-)
>
>  Craig sells roadster parts for fun, makes a living off of buying and
> selling cars, boats, motorcycles, motorhomes, and darn near anything else.
> Nothing unethical there.
>
>>
>> Is it ethical to tell the woman in Redding you will give her car a
>> good home, then tell the list you were going to use it to re-body
>> another car?
>
>  So maybe he should have said HOMES.  But most of the car would have staid
> intact.
>
>> Is it ethical to say you have been looking for a 67.5 body for the
>> last 20 years, when you have had some at your house in the last 2
>> years?
>
>  Craig has many roadsters at his place.  But most suffer from east coast
> ravages of rust.  He has been looking for a 'great' body for his 67.5 
> since
> I've known him (10+ years).
>
>> Is it ethical to buy a 67 2000 on the list for $4K with rare parts an
>> offer it up on the same list 3 weeks later for $4K without the parts?
>
>  Please, he paid the asking price for the car.  Nothing even remotely
> unethical about that.  I suppose if WalMart was selling something at a
> fraction of what you thought it was worth, you'd argue with them to pay
> more?
>  Asking price is always set by the sellier.  Selling price is negotiated
> between buyer and seller.  I see nothing unethical with that either.  Sort
> of sounds like American way!
>>
>> Can someone clear this ethics thing up for me?
>
>  Ethics is what you do when some one is watching.  Morals are what you do
> when nobody is watching.  Craig knows his market and works hard to make a
> living while having fun.  Anything else I can help you with?
>
> Paul
> Ohio
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From aultgc at att.net  Tue Aug  5 20:20:14 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:20:14 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] A little OT but not too bad,
 the slow carb guy  and social  security
References: <bf2.340f891e.35ca5577@aol.com>
Message-ID: <006701c8f76a$f5ffdf80$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

Keith,

I know what CRS is, since I suffer from it myself.  But, what is CFS?

Gary
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Keith0alan at aol.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:16 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] A little OT but not too bad, the slow carb guy and 
social security


> Hello all,
>
>    A some of you know I was diagnosed with CFS about  four years ago. 
> After
> being turned down by social security three time I finally  had a hearing
> before the judge today. Not only did he agree that I am disabled  he made 
> it
> retroactive back to when I left work in '04. We are all pretty much 
> stunned. After
> four years of battles with my insurance and social security there  is 
> finally
> a bit of sanity.
>
> Now, back to our normally scheduled squabbling,
>
> Keith "the slow carb guy" williams
>
>
>
> **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your 
> budget?
> Read reviews on AOL Autos.
> (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 
>  )
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From ruth at earlydatsun.com  Tue Aug  5 20:24:31 2008
From: ruth at earlydatsun.com (Ruth)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 12:24:31 +1000
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?
In-Reply-To: <895957.88307.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <47A0A436-4B1F-4661-B005-CE771B3A2905@earlydatsun.com>

I know this is getting further and further OT, but...

Sometimes you are in the lap of the gods (or more correctly, the other  
stupid drivers out there) no matter how many safety features you have  
on your car/bike. A friend of mine was in an accident last week, and  
spent a week in ICU ventilated with a broken pelvis, punctured lung,  
lacerated liver and a whole host of associated injuries meaning she  
will maybe never work as a nurse again. She's on the ward now, but  
it's going to be a long slow recovery.

She was riding to work on her motorcycle in the rain, when the car in  
front of her stopped for a red light. She stopped in plenty of time,  
but the 4WD behind her didn't. She was sandwiched between the front of  
the 4WD and the car briefly, then the 4WD skidded over the top of her.

So be careful, and always assume that the other guy is a dickhead. And  
get a roll bar. And an airbag. But even that won't necessarily keep  
you out of the ER.

Ruth.

On 05/08/2008, at 11:54 PM, Gary McCormick wrote:

> The best way to develop situational awareness (S.A.) on the road is  
> to ride a motorcycle. I got my learner's permit at 15-1/2, license  
> at 16 - for a motorcycle only ('cuz I had a motorcycle only - my  
> folks said that when I could buy a car, I could get a license for a  
> car). You learn very quickly on a bike (and mine was small, a Yamaha  
> 100cc twin) that you are effectively invisible - and you are very  
> vulnerable. I have had the drivers of oncoming vehicles look me  
> right in the eye... and turn left in front of me anyway.
>
> The S.A. skills I learned as a callow youth have served me well in  
> 35+ years on the road (it didn't hurt that, with a father who was a  
> CHP officer, I heard a lot of rather sobering stories about the  
> possible  consequences of inattention on the road, as well as  
> reading CHP magazine every month and seeing the photos accompanying  
> the accident reports...).
>
> Of course, these are DEFENSIVE driving skills, and unfortunately  
> there are many people out there, like Fred's friend with the huge  
> 4WD truck, who practice OFFENSIVE driving - all the more reason for  
> the rest of us to develop good S.A.
>
> Gary McCormick
> San Jose, CA

From graemes at internode.on.net  Tue Aug  5 20:26:31 2008
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:56:31 +0930
Subject: [Roadsters] A little OT but not too bad,
 the slow carb guy   and social  security
In-Reply-To: <006701c8f76a$f5ffdf80$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
References: <bf2.340f891e.35ca5577@aol.com>
	<006701c8f76a$f5ffdf80$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <001d01c8f76b$d8bebf80$236fa8c0@desktop>

CFS: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome 
 But, what is CFS?

From konadave1 at hawaii.rr.com  Tue Aug  5 21:48:01 2008
From: konadave1 at hawaii.rr.com (David R. Conrad)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 17:48:01 -1000
Subject: [Roadsters] A little OT but not too bad,
 the slow carb guy   and social  security
In-Reply-To: <006701c8f76a$f5ffdf80$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
References: <bf2.340f891e.35ca5577@aol.com>
	<006701c8f76a$f5ffdf80$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <42115CE5-20AA-4D75-A505-506785360632@hawaii.rr.com>

For "CRS" on the acronym list, for medical conditions all I saw were  
two:  (1)Congenital Rubella Syndrome and (2)Cranial-rectal syndrome.   
The latter was followed by ;-)   Since the list WAS quite long,  
perhaps I missed another... :-)

-Dave

On Aug 5, 2008, at 4:20 PM, Gary and Cindy Ault wrote:

> Keith,
>
> I know what CRS is, since I suffer from it myself.  But, what is CFS?
>
> Gary
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Keith0alan at aol.com>
> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:16 PM
> Subject: [Roadsters] A little OT but not too bad, the slow carb guy  
> and
> social security
>
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>>    A some of you know I was diagnosed with CFS about  four years ago.
>> After
>> being turned down by social security three time I finally  had a  
>> hearing
>> before the judge today. Not only did he agree that I am disabled   
>> he made
>> it
>> retroactive back to when I left work in '04. We are all pretty much
>> stunned. After
>> four years of battles with my insurance and social security there  is
>> finally
>> a bit of sanity.
>>
>> Now, back to our normally scheduled squabbling,
>>
>> Keith "the slow carb guy" williams
>>
>>
>>
>> **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your
>> budget?
>> Read reviews on AOL Autos.
>> (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review? 
>> ncid=aolaut00050000000017
>>  )
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Tue Aug  5 21:54:24 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:54:24 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] A little OT but not too bad,
 the slow carb guy    and social  security
In-Reply-To: <42115CE5-20AA-4D75-A505-506785360632@hawaii.rr.com>
References: <bf2.340f891e.35ca5577@aol.com>
	<006701c8f76a$f5ffdf80$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
	<42115CE5-20AA-4D75-A505-506785360632@hawaii.rr.com>
Message-ID: <002601c8f778$1e292bd0$5a7b8370$@net>

I understand that second condition requires the services of a
neuroproctologist to cure.

Then there's the condition called Optical Rectitis. That's where your optic
nerve gets crossed up with your asshole and you have a shitty outlook on
life.

In my own case, CRS stands for "Can't Remember Shit" and I think my case is
incurable.

Gordon Glasgow
-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of David R. Conrad
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:48 PM
To: Gary and Cindy Ault
Cc: Keith0alan at aol.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] A little OT but not too bad, the slow carb guy and
social security

For "CRS" on the acronym list, for medical conditions all I saw were  
two:  (1)Congenital Rubella Syndrome and (2)Cranial-rectal syndrome.   
The latter was followed by ;-)   Since the list WAS quite long,  
perhaps I missed another... :-)

-Dave

On Aug 5, 2008, at 4:20 PM, Gary and Cindy Ault wrote:

> Keith,
>
> I know what CRS is, since I suffer from it myself.  But, what is CFS?
>
> Gary
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Keith0alan at aol.com>
> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:16 PM
> Subject: [Roadsters] A little OT but not too bad, the slow carb guy  
> and
> social security
>
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>>    A some of you know I was diagnosed with CFS about  four years ago.
>> After
>> being turned down by social security three time I finally  had a  
>> hearing
>> before the judge today. Not only did he agree that I am disabled   
>> he made
>> it
>> retroactive back to when I left work in '04. We are all pretty much
>> stunned. After
>> four years of battles with my insurance and social security there  is
>> finally
>> a bit of sanity.
>>
>> Now, back to our normally scheduled squabbling,
>>
>> Keith "the slow carb guy" williams
>>
>>
>>
>> **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your
>> budget?
>> Read reviews on AOL Autos.
>> (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review? 
>> ncid=aolaut00050000000017
>>  )
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From johnwightman at shaw.ca  Tue Aug  5 22:20:46 2008
From: johnwightman at shaw.ca (John Wightman)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:20:46 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Ethics - was: Best source for selling a  roadster
In-Reply-To: <9a562e060808051635j5efa13fbx6bda40984fa32cb9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9a562e060808051635j5efa13fbx6bda40984fa32cb9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B5EFBF38-5149-4C2E-BA77-A8FA5E48FCE5@shaw.ca>

Oh, so YOU'RE the knob that screwed him out of his deal... big  
surprise you won't even sign your name.

JW
P.S. I don't even know Craig, but I know an ass when I hear one  
braying...
On Aug 5, 2008, at 4:35 PM, NotMGB wrote:

> I am wondering exactly what is ethical myself.
>
> Is it ethical to say on the 28th
>
>
> selling parts is not a profit making venture, it merely offsets the
> expenses of having a roadster
> obsession, a labor of love. if you folks don't have the decency,  
> honesty, and
> integrity to appreciate that
>
> And say a week later:
>
> playing with roadsters is my sole source of income, I'm an old white
> haired retired guy ;-)
>
>
> Is it ethical to tell the woman in Redding you will give her car a
> good home, then tell the list you were going to use it to re-body
> another car?
> Is it ethical to say you have been looking for a 67.5 body for the
> last 20 years, when you have had some at your house in the last 2
> years?
> Is it ethical to buy a 67 2000 on the list for $4K with rare parts an
> offer it up on the same list 3 weeks later for $4K without the parts?
>
> Can someone clear this ethics thing up for me?
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From aultgc at att.net  Tue Aug  5 22:31:26 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:31:26 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] A little OT but not too bad,
 the slow carb guy    and social  security
References: <bf2.340f891e.35ca5577@aol.com><006701c8f76a$f5ffdf80$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
	<001d01c8f76b$d8bebf80$236fa8c0@desktop>
Message-ID: <002601c8f77d$4a64ecc0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

Graeme,

Did you mean "CRS"?  "Can't Remember S____".

Gary
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Graeme" <graemes at internode.on.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] A little OT but not too bad, the slow carb guy and 
social security


> CFS: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
> But, what is CFS?
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From chalsted at comcast.net  Wed Aug  6 03:09:14 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 05:09:14 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] test...
Message-ID: <012401c8f7a4$19eba530$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

I'd crafted my own response to notmgb, but even though I sent it twice, didn't
make it to the list somehow.wondered if I was still on. I did send it straight
to notmgb though and it didn't kick back. maybe the word "suck" wouldn't make
it thru some filter...
Craig
Datsun Roadsters mostly...
http://community.webshots.com/user/672000

From chalsted at comcast.net  Wed Aug  6 03:20:03 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 05:20:03 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] my own response to notmgb
Message-ID: <013801c8f7a5$9c4066f0$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

sure,since you are the same person that skewered me when I had a stroke a
couple years ago... the good home is mine for the roadster, I have had #6
2000 for over 20 years and have looked for a good body.
the ones I have picked up in the meantime were not as good as I'd hoped, as
they sounded in ads... folks are not always aware of the realities of what
kind of shape their roadsters they are offering for sale are actually in..
heck, I went all the way out to California to pick up one I bought that was
"rust free"  what a piece of crap... times dictated
that it was less of a job to turn them into drivers than to do a body swap
and go to all the trouble with the body on #6 which needs a rear clip  the
door on the Redding car is easy to fix or replace, nice interior for the
most part except for the console...I have the remains of a 67.5 Solex 2000
also with no body or chassis, just original engine, Solexes, comp pan, new
top, top frame, a NOS fender... I went all the way to Newfoundland to get
that one. bet I passed pretty colse to your place, too..... I build cars
primarily for my own pleasure, unfortunately getting the mortgage paid and
bills and now college for my daughter and major medical bills requires I
sell my own personal drivers from time to time. I have invested my own
personal time and efforts to adding parts to them, engines or other, wheels,
tires, doing brakes, other stuff... and I have made a couple nice ones. one
went to Oregon, was the nicest one I ever had. needed to pay bills, that
person made me an offer I couldn't refuse after driving the car. paid a
couple months mortgage, picked up another one and started again..actually,
had to do a second swap on the drivetrain of the one I'd brought back from
Colorado 2 years previous. got it registered, insured, someone was looking
and made me the offer I couldn't refuse on that one.  next question:

Is it ethical to buy a 67 2000 on the list for $4K with rare parts an
offer it up on the same list 3 weeks later for $4K without the parts?

absolutely. it's mine to sell and none of your friggin business. I actually
sold it for the same $4k to someone who has another 67.5 I used to own. he
would have had to pay $8k for what he got if bought piece by piece. he gave
me some carburetors for my efforts.  so as far as ethics and integrity, I'm
fine as for you, notmgb, why don't you go suck an egg
that's the family version of what I had to tell you back when you were
screwing with the auction on the RL411 out in Oregon after my stroke. it
sits in my driveway, I've been collecting parts for it for 2 years, and the
wheelcovers are still on it. kiss off and mind your own business- go crawl
back under your rock again.
Craig

From chalsted at comcast.net  Wed Aug  6 03:43:15 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 05:43:15 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] datsun roadsters, worldwide e-charities
Message-ID: <015301c8f7a8$dbcd2440$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

I do have a project going on at the moment that's not really roadster related,
although my roadsters have made an interesting calling card...

this past weekend I set up 30 what I'll call "e-charitable organizations"
the concept had been touched upon as initially 9 out of 30 domain names I
tried to register were taken. they had not done their homework though, and I
pretty much tied up the concept. each charitable organization is geared
towards a specific group of people, there will be 2 counters on each website.
one will show a running tally of donations, the other will have a running
tally of where the donated funds are applied worldwide. along with what was
done with them.  a MINIMUM of 90% of all funds channeled into the charities
will be directly applied where needed, practically instantaneously. no
politics, no red tape. could have provided what they needed desperately within
days after the Tsunami or New Orleans... I read last week that 27,000 children
are dying daily of starvation worldwide.. that is absolutely, totally
unacceptible and something had to be done NOW... it has been theorized that
the "Second Coming of Christ" will come about around our general time frame,
would't it be sad if this great collective individual were born into poverty
and died of starvation?  these charities are structured to raise large amounts
of money instantaneously for the benefit of humankind. I will literally GIVE
some of them away to people who have already shown an inclination to do good
deeds. would like to talk to Oprah, her "Big Give" was part of my inspiration.
think if she gave charities already set up ready to run to say 5 groups of
people and they applied all their focus to generating cash to make a
difference...got web hosting, SSL encryption on every one of them... cost me
more than most of the roadsters I buy... but the time has come for humanity to
experience a quantum move forward toward our ultimate destiny. if you're
interested in involvement in any of this, no financial participation required-
I've set it up out of pocket. just a belief in what I'm trying to do and
skills to help achieve that. web design is one skill.

Craig
Datsun Roadsters mostly...occasional interesting ideas
http://community.webshots.com/user/672000

From mikefaggart at gmail.com  Wed Aug  6 07:47:52 2008
From: mikefaggart at gmail.com (Mike Faggart)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:47:52 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Chris Bond, SEROC
Message-ID: <8356b4630808060647r2385d03s86584b1acfe4dd7b@mail.gmail.com>

It is a very sad moment that i have to report that my friend, Chris Bond,
formally of Salisbury, and Shelbyville, IN passed away Friday, August 1,
2008.   He fought a valient battle against cancer, but it finally won the
battle.  Chris was active in SEROC and loved his Datsun.  He made the trip
to Atlanta almost every year for our annual gathering here is the
southeast.  A true friend that will be missed.

-- 
Mike Faggart
SEROC
68-2L

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Wed Aug  6 07:53:35 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:53:35 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] A little OT but not too bad,
 the slow carb guy  and social  se...
Message-ID: <cf8.3bcf7bc5.35cb06df@aol.com>

In a message dated 8/5/2008 7:20:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time,  aultgc at att.net 
writes:

Keith,

I know what CRS is, since I suffer from it myself.   But, what is CFS?

Gary




I have CRS also but that's different. CFS is Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. The  
primary symptom is profound fatigue with minimal exertion and very slow recover 
 from that fatigue. It's different from being sleepy. There are some other  
symptoms like having a 24/7 headache. Fortunately that mostly went away when I  
quit work. One of the issues with CFS is becoming so frustrated with not 
being  able to do things that you do something unfortunate. I'm lucky to have the  
roadster stuff and a few other projects, not to mention all the wonderful 
people  in my life to help keep me engaged and as active as I can be. 
 
keith "that's why I'm the slow carb guy"  williams 




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From buzzardmountainz at gmail.com  Wed Aug  6 07:57:04 2008
From: buzzardmountainz at gmail.com (Robin Lemons)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:57:04 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Chris Bond, SEROC
In-Reply-To: <8356b4630808060647r2385d03s86584b1acfe4dd7b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8356b4630808060647r2385d03s86584b1acfe4dd7b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <577f829e0808060657v42730215x57c40f7c2b2c5171@mail.gmail.com>

RIP

:-(

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Mike Faggart <mikefaggart at gmail.com> wrote:

> It is a very sad moment that i have to report that my friend, Chris Bond,
> formally of Salisbury, and Shelbyville, IN passed away Friday, August 1,
> 2008.   He fought a valient battle against cancer, but it finally won the
> battle.  Chris was active in SEROC and loved his Datsun.  He made the trip
> to Atlanta almost every year for our annual gathering here is the
> southeast.  A true friend that will be missed.
>
> --
> Mike Faggart
> SEROC
> 68-2L
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From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug  6 08:16:51 2008
From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 07:16:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Chris Bond, SEROC
In-Reply-To: <8356b4630808060647r2385d03s86584b1acfe4dd7b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <559702.88558.qm@web63707.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

I have met very few people who enjoyed life any more than Chris.  He was truly a "wild man" in the absolute BEST sense of the word.  I never saw him without a smile, and never saw him in his roadster when he didn't want to race me!  He will be missed. The Mitty will never be the same...One of the biggest compliments I ever received was when Chris said he wanted to be like me when he grew up.  The good news is that Chris never grew up, the bad news is we will be without him.

Mike Harper
SC


--- On Wed, 8/6/08, Mike Faggart <mikefaggart at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Mike Faggart <mikefaggart at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Roadsters] Chris Bond, SEROC
> To: "datsun list" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 9:47 AM
> It is a very sad moment that i have to report that my
> friend, Chris Bond,
> formally of Salisbury, and Shelbyville, IN passed away
> Friday, August 1,
> 2008.   He fought a valient battle against cancer, but it
> finally won the
> battle.  Chris was active in SEROC and loved his Datsun. 
> He made the trip
> to Atlanta almost every year for our annual gathering here
> is the
> southeast.  A true friend that will be missed.

From reblues at gmail.com  Wed Aug  6 08:39:25 2008
From: reblues at gmail.com (reblues at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:39:25 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Chris Bond, SEROC
References: <8356b4630808060647r2385d03s86584b1acfe4dd7b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <06f901c8f7d2$39db5f10$6601a8c0@ACER4230>

He was a great roadster friend.  He will be missed.

Richard

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From: "Mike Faggart" <mikefaggart at gmail.com>
To: "datsun list" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 9:47 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Chris Bond, SEROC


> It is a very sad moment that i have to report that my friend, Chris Bond,
> formally of Salisbury, and Shelbyville, IN passed away Friday, August 1,
> 2008.   He fought a valient battle against cancer, but it finally won the
> battle.  Chris was active in SEROC and loved his Datsun.  He made the trip
> to Atlanta almost every year for our annual gathering here is the
> southeast.  A true friend that will be missed.
>
> -- 
> Mike Faggart
> SEROC
> 68-2L

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Wed Aug  6 09:25:34 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:25:34 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Chris Bond, SEROC
References: <8356b4630808060647r2385d03s86584b1acfe4dd7b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00da01c8f7d8$b741d280$d721ffd8@hpcustomer>

  No Mitty will ever be the same without Chris!

Paul

Ohio

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Wed Aug  6 09:25:12 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:25:12 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Chris Bond, SEROC
In-Reply-To: <06f901c8f7d2$39db5f10$6601a8c0@ACER4230>
References: <8356b4630808060647r2385d03s86584b1acfe4dd7b@mail.gmail.com>
	<06f901c8f7d2$39db5f10$6601a8c0@ACER4230>
Message-ID: <8CAC5EFC080BC19-90C-DC0@webmail-de15.sysops.aol.com>

He aounds like a graat guy, sorry to hear of his passing.
As a side note, many cancers can be detected early, like prostate and colon. So you guys might want to get tested

Linda

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From: "Mike Faggart" <mikefaggart at gmail.com>
To: "datsun list" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 9:47 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Chris Bond, SEROC


> It is a very sad moment that i have to report that my friend, Chris Bond,
> formally of Salisbury, and Shelbyville, IN passed away Friday, August 1,
> 2008.   He fought a valient battle against cancer, but it finally won the
> battle.  Chris was active in SEROC and loved his Datsun.  He made the trip
> to Atlanta almost every year for our annual gathering here is the
> southeast.  A true friend that will be missed.
>
> -- 
> Mike Faggart
> SEROC
> 68-2L
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From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com  Wed Aug  6 10:50:55 2008
From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison)
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:50:55 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Driver/rider safety training
Message-ID: <C4BF247F.DBCF%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>

FWIW, one of the best "driving" courses I have ever taken was the Washington
State sponsored motorcycle safety course. Others I have talked to say the
same thing. Even if you're not a rider, it will make you a better driver. It
scares the heck out of me when I see folks ripping around on their new 49cc
scooters with no formal training. (At least wear closed toe shoes....I won't
even get into tiny tikes riding 750cc wake bikes and ATVs!)

Hope this helps save a life.

-Greg
SRL31100494
"Roadstering since '75"
"Riding since '62"

From pjmill at sonic.net  Wed Aug  6 11:48:51 2008
From: pjmill at sonic.net (pjmill at sonic.net)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:48:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Chris Bond, SEROC
In-Reply-To: <8356b4630808060647r2385d03s86584b1acfe4dd7b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8356b4630808060647r2385d03s86584b1acfe4dd7b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5649.151.151.73.168.1218044931.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net>

Just as the soft rains fill the streams,
Pour into the rivers,
And join together in the oceans,
So may the power of every moment
Of your goodness flow forth to awaken
And heal all beings;
Those here now, those gone before, those yet to come.

   -- A Buddhist Blessing

At rest now -- at peace in all things.

Paul

> It is a very sad moment that i have to report that my friend, Chris Bond,
> formally of Salisbury, and Shelbyville, IN passed away Friday, August 1,
> 2008.   He fought a valient battle against cancer, but it finally won the
> battle.  Chris was active in SEROC and loved his Datsun.  He made the trip
> to Atlanta almost every year for our annual gathering here is the
> southeast.  A true friend that will be missed.
>
> --
> Mike Faggart
> SEROC
> 68-2L
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From zariwny100 at comcast.net  Wed Aug  6 11:59:18 2008
From: zariwny100 at comcast.net (Kerry and Kae Zariwny)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:59:18 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Driver/rider safety training
References: <C4BF247F.DBCF%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>
Message-ID: <003501c8f7ef$46d97540$6801a8c0@YOUR0E16268AB7>

Hi All

 I totally agree about the motorcycle course (and clothing). Both my wife
(when she stopped being a pillion and got her own motorcycle) and I have
taken the course. I took mine about 15 years ago when I first got my bike
and have even taken the advance course several times since then (kinda like
a "get ready for summer riding" tune up)

What I love are the squids driving their liter bikes in flip-flops and
shorts. I have had plenty of crashes on my mountain bike in shorts. I can't
imagine crashing my motorcycle at 50 + mph in shorts. I would be picking out
gravel for weeks! :-)

Kerry Z
1968 1600
CBR 600rr



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gregory S. Morrison" <gsm at gregorysmorrison.com>
To: "Datsun list" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 9:50 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Driver/rider safety training


> FWIW, one of the best "driving" courses I have ever taken was the
> Washington
> State sponsored motorcycle safety course. Others I have talked to say the
> same thing. Even if you're not a rider, it will make you a better driver.
> It
> scares the heck out of me when I see folks ripping around on their new
> 49cc
> scooters with no formal training. (At least wear closed toe shoes....I
> won't
> even get into tiny tikes riding 750cc wake bikes and ATVs!)
>
> Hope this helps save a life.
>
> -Greg
> SRL31100494
> "Roadstering since '75"
> "Riding since '62"
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From gregs672liter at netzero.net  Wed Aug  6 12:19:09 2008
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 18:19:09 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] Chris Bond, SEROC
Message-ID: <20080806.111909.23709.0@webmail07.vgs.untd.com>

To Mike and all that knew Chris, I am sorry for your loss... sounds like he
was a great, fun guy.  Remember that his love ALWAYS lives within you, there
to be passed on to others you come in contact with.  Your smiles are his
smiles, as are the smiles you get back from others.  It is what it really is
all about.  Share the love.
Greg Burrows
Bonney Lake, WA

-- "Mike Faggart" <mikefaggart at gmail.com> wrote:
It is a very sad moment that i have to report that my friend, Chris Bond,
formally of Salisbury, and Shelbyville, IN passed away Friday, August 1,
2008.   He fought a valient battle against cancer, but it finally won the
battle.  Chris was active in SEROC and loved his Datsun.  He made the trip
to Atlanta almost every year for our annual gathering here is the
southeast.  A true friend that will be missed.

--
Mike Faggart
SEROC
68-2L
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Aug  6 12:26:47 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:26:47 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Driver/rider safety training
In-Reply-To: <003501c8f7ef$46d97540$6801a8c0@YOUR0E16268AB7>
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Squids? Do I detect a jarhead in the crowd? <g>

Pete
USN-Ret.

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Kerry and Kae Zariwny
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 10:59 AM
To: Datsun list
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Driver/rider safety training


Hi All

 I totally agree about the motorcycle course (and clothing). Both my wife
(when she stopped being a pillion and got her own motorcycle) and I have
taken the course. I took mine about 15 years ago when I first got my bike
and have even taken the advance course several times since then (kinda like
a "get ready for summer riding" tune up)

What I love are the squids driving their liter bikes in flip-flops and
shorts. I have had plenty of crashes on my mountain bike in shorts. I can't
imagine crashing my motorcycle at 50 + mph in shorts. I would be picking out
gravel for weeks! :-)

Kerry Z
1968 1600
CBR 600rr



----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregory S. Morrison" <gsm at gregorysmorrison.com>
To: "Datsun list" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 9:50 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Driver/rider safety training


> FWIW, one of the best "driving" courses I have ever taken was the
> Washington State sponsored motorcycle safety course. Others I have
> talked to say the same thing. Even if you're not a rider, it will make
> you a better driver. It
> scares the heck out of me when I see folks ripping around on their new
> 49cc
> scooters with no formal training. (At least wear closed toe shoes....I
> won't
> even get into tiny tikes riding 750cc wake bikes and ATVs!)
>
> Hope this helps save a life.
>
> -Greg
> SRL31100494
> "Roadstering since '75"
> "Riding since '62"
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From tputland at charter.net  Wed Aug  6 12:26:29 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:26:29 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Driver/rider safety training
In-Reply-To: <003501c8f7ef$46d97540$6801a8c0@YOUR0E16268AB7>
Message-ID: <20080806142629.C8RI5.6319.root@mp13>

I have a scar from a mountain bike crash that took almost 40 stitches to close, including 9 internal that were less than a quarter inch from a vein the diameter of a cigarette. Had I been on a motor cycle I would have lost the leg (and possibly my life from blood loss) and I would not be able to clutch right now. 

This was almost 25 years ago and I am STILL very aware of motor cycles and bicycles when I am driving a car. 

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- Kerry and Kae Zariwny <zariwny100 at comcast.net> wrote: 

=============
Hi All

 I totally agree about the motorcycle course (and clothing). Both my wife
(when she stopped being a pillion and got her own motorcycle) and I have
taken the course. I took mine about 15 years ago when I first got my bike
and have even taken the advance course several times since then (kinda like
a "get ready for summer riding" tune up)

What I love are the squids driving their liter bikes in flip-flops and
shorts. I have had plenty of crashes on my mountain bike in shorts. I can't
imagine crashing my motorcycle at 50 + mph in shorts. I would be picking out
gravel for weeks! :-)

Kerry Z
1968 1600
CBR 600rr



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gregory S. Morrison" <gsm at gregorysmorrison.com>
To: "Datsun list" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 9:50 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Driver/rider safety training


> FWIW, one of the best "driving" courses I have ever taken was the
> Washington
> State sponsored motorcycle safety course. Others I have talked to say the
> same thing. Even if you're not a rider, it will make you a better driver.
> It
> scares the heck out of me when I see folks ripping around on their new
> 49cc
> scooters with no formal training. (At least wear closed toe shoes....I
> won't
> even get into tiny tikes riding 750cc wake bikes and ATVs!)
>
> Hope this helps save a life.
>
> -Greg
> SRL31100494
> "Roadstering since '75"
> "Riding since '62"
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From tputland at charter.net  Wed Aug  6 12:52:43 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:52:43 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 66 on Wisconsin CL
Message-ID: <20080806145243.30G8X.7450.root@mp13>

I know nothing about this, just passing it along.

http://wausau.craigslist.org/car/767123427.html


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From tomph at mchsi.com  Wed Aug  6 17:10:32 2008
From: tomph at mchsi.com (Tom Phelan)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 19:10:32 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Chris Bond, SEROC
In-Reply-To: <8356b4630808060647r2385d03s86584b1acfe4dd7b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001c8f819$a037a010$6401a8c0@dad>

A very sad moment indeed. For a while there it looked like he might have
been making some progress in his fight. We will all miss his infectious
smile at the Mitty gatherings. A true Datsun/roadster lover/collector.
God bless.

Tom P

> It is a very sad moment that i have to report that my friend, 
> Chris Bond, formally of Salisbury, and Shelbyville, IN passed 
> away Friday, August 1,
> 2008.   He fought a valient battle against cancer, but it 
> finally won the
> battle.  Chris was active in SEROC and loved his Datsun.  He 
> made the trip to Atlanta almost every year for our annual 
> gathering here is the southeast.  A true friend that will be missed.
> 
> -- 
> Mike Faggart
> SEROC
> 68-2L

From JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net  Wed Aug  6 19:39:09 2008
From: JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net (JohnnyRoadster)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 21:39:09 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Readyn for paint
Message-ID: <003301c8f82e$644cd4c0$0401a8c0@JohnLaptop>

Well it is finally ready!  We finished taping her up on Tuesday night.  This
weekend the paint will finally go on.  I posted a few more pics of the prep
work.  I have to go out of town, so I will not be able to get photos of the
paint process, but I will post finished pics next week.

John

SPL311-19356
http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster

From jake7140 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug  6 20:46:15 2008
From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 19:46:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbars and Harnesses
In-Reply-To: <mailman.21163.1217915179.1200.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <691464.16713.qm@web37901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

AND a too short bar WITH shoulder harnesses means you are trapped upright with your head above the headlight to bar line with no way to lay, flop or get smooshed out of the way when the car flips and/or slides.  Your head just gets ground/snapped off to the plane of the line.

Steve Steve's Racing web site
  www.NoNameRacing.com
Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society home
  www.elrss.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> datsun-roadsters-bounces+nmleeds=mindspring.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+nmleeds=mindspring.com at autox.team.net]O
> n Behalf Of Embarq Customer
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:16 PM
> To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it
> all?
> 
> 
> You all probably know my opinion on the whole rollbar deal
> but I'll share it
> again anyway.  The rollbar needs to be tall enough so that
> when a line is
> drawn from the roll bar to the front of the car where it
> will hit the
> ground, the drivers head will be 2" below the line. 
> For a roadster that
> means the roll bar needs to be much taller than will fit
> under a top.
> Anything less than that will provide no protection (ZERO)
> to the driver or
> passenger.  It is only for vanity at that point.  My advice
> is to leave the
> rollbar out and operate the top easily.
> 
> Andy
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From roadster at astound.net  Thu Aug  7 00:27:16 2008
From: roadster at astound.net (Fred Katz)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 23:27:16 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: 300ZX burnout
Message-ID: <FA38C252-A7CE-48DA-9785-0D28CEEEE840@astound.net>

300ZX Turbo burnout

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6Eimrv7yRQ

Anyone have videos of a roadster doing a burnout like this? I haven't  
tried to get mine to sit still like this Z in this video. Wow!

Fred - So.SF

From fairlady at bigpond.com  Thu Aug  7 06:50:22 2008
From: fairlady at bigpond.com (Phill Brook)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:50:22 +1000
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: 300ZX burnout
In-Reply-To: <FA38C252-A7CE-48DA-9785-0D28CEEEE840@astound.net>
References: <FA38C252-A7CE-48DA-9785-0D28CEEEE840@astound.net>
Message-ID: <02FFBDE4-F6B2-4087-9C1D-3B3C295404D7@bigpond.com>

I don't have it on video but I do have this still of my Roadster:
http://s181.photobucket.com/albums/x107/Banzai_Elise/Web%20Pix/? 
action=view&current=Datto1024.jpg

Pic is from warming the tyres for a Hillclimb in 2004.

Phill B

On 07/08/2008, at 4:27 PM, Fred Katz wrote:

> 300ZX Turbo burnout
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6Eimrv7yRQ
>
> Anyone have videos of a roadster doing a burnout like this? I haven't
> tried to get mine to sit still like this Z in this video. Wow!
>
> Fred - So.SF

From chalsted at comcast.net  Thu Aug  7 07:55:29 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:55:29 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: 300ZX burnout
References: <FA38C252-A7CE-48DA-9785-0D28CEEEE840@astound.net>
	<02FFBDE4-F6B2-4087-9C1D-3B3C295404D7@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <02f101c8f895$406c8b10$8b277b4c@craigscomputer>

there's a 50th anniversary 300ZX turbo available local, minor nose damage 
but completely driveable, not original # engine but rebuilt recently, like 
110k miles on the car. can be had for $2500, let me know if you want me to 
check into it for you. not advertised, had an oil change and the service guy 
told me his friend had it... took a look last night, probably worth the 
money. no rust, seats split some, clean dash, 5spd. T Tops. let me know, 
he's unavailable from now until about the 16th so wouldn't be able to check 
into it until then. I doubt he'll advertise it in the meantime. contact me 
offline. bought a replacement Diesel truck for towning this morning, turned 
out the seller is good friends with someone I bought an orange California 
1600 from once upon a time... small world, isn't it?...
Craig
Datsun Roadsters mostly...
http://community.webshots.com/user/672000

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phill Brook" <fairlady at bigpond.com>
To: "Fred Katz" <roadster at astound.net>
Cc: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: 300ZX burnout


>I don't have it on video but I do have this still of my Roadster:
> http://s181.photobucket.com/albums/x107/Banzai_Elise/Web%20Pix/?
> action=view&current=Datto1024.jpg
>
> Pic is from warming the tyres for a Hillclimb in 2004.
>
> Phill B
>
> On 07/08/2008, at 4:27 PM, Fred Katz wrote:
>
>> 300ZX Turbo burnout
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6Eimrv7yRQ
>>
>> Anyone have videos of a roadster doing a burnout like this? I haven't
>> tried to get mine to sit still like this Z in this video. Wow!
>>
>> Fred - So.SF
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From dbji at whidbey.net  Thu Aug  7 10:42:21 2008
From: dbji at whidbey.net (Don Boyd)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:42:21 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Gordon Glasgow ,CRS ?? And other subjects(roadsters!)
Message-ID: <003f01c8f8ac$93beaf70$2101a8c0@work>

Hi Gordon. Joan and I missed you guys at the Pacific Race Way historics in
July.
     I don't read every list, so I'm sure I just missed it. CRS can only mean
"Chronic ROADSTER  Syndrome", right?
Joan and I are getting ready to head down to the Monterey historics on Sunday.
For the first time in years, I think 1997, we will not be driving Joan's
little red roadster. Last year, she(the roadster, you guys,not my wife!) saw
many many of those "other" beauties, and I think maybe she got a little
uptight about it. She started marking her territory about the time we went to
the Baja Cantina and parked next to at least a dozen Toyota 2000gts. She KNEW
in previous years she would be the ONLY pretty Asian car in Monterey....She
was used to getting lots of attention! The misbehavior got serious, and
despite my planning, I've not had time to correct it. Engine out, new rear
seal.....
    So we will take my new smart car. It will still be lots of fun. It's a
hoot to drive. So if you see a yellow/black smart with Washington plates,
listers, know we are roadster friendly, and wish she was with us.

Don Boyd
Joan Ikoma

From tom at datsun2000.com  Thu Aug  7 11:30:01 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 10:30:01 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Reminder: Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This Saturday
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGOEGMDFAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

Bill and Karen Neal are hosting a Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This Saturday
in Shed, Oregon.

Shed is near Corvallis, and about an hour and a half South of Portland.

The fun run starts around 10:30 AM and the BBQ/Wine tasting will be around 4
PM.

I am planning to leave Portland on I-205 around 8:30.  If anyone would like
to arrange a meeting place for a caravan send me a note here, or to
phone at datsun2000.com, where I will receive the message on my cell phone.

Mr. Hyde and I are looking forward meeting new friends and having a very
good day.

More information is posted on the NOWROC web site Calendar of Events:

http://www.nowroc.org/events

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

From ktmaustin at sbcglobal.net  Thu Aug  7 14:19:35 2008
From: ktmaustin at sbcglobal.net (Kevin McDonald)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:19:35 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Reminder: Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This Saturday
References: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGOEGMDFAA.tom@datsun2000.com>
Message-ID: <001401c8f8ca$ea4bd660$0c00190a@ktmlt2>

I'm Sorry,
You can't combine BBQ and Wine Tasting.
That's just wrong...
Kevin in Texas

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" <tom at datsun2000.com>
To: "Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 12:30 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Reminder: Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This Saturday


> Bill and Karen Neal are hosting a Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This 
> Saturday
> in Shed, Oregon.
>
> Shed is near Corvallis, and about an hour and a half South of Portland.
>
> The fun run starts around 10:30 AM and the BBQ/Wine tasting will be around 
> 4
> PM.
>
> I am planning to leave Portland on I-205 around 8:30.  If anyone would 
> like
> to arrange a meeting place for a caravan send me a note here, or to
> phone at datsun2000.com, where I will receive the message on my cell phone.
>
> Mr. Hyde and I are looking forward meeting new friends and having a very
> good day.
>
> More information is posted on the NOWROC web site Calendar of Events:
>
> http://www.nowroc.org/events
>
> Tom
> 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
> Portland
> http://www.datsun2000.com
> http://www.nowroc.org
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From matt at vander-bend.com  Thu Aug  7 15:07:39 2008
From: matt at vander-bend.com (Matt Jacquet)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:07:39 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Reminder: Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This Saturday
In-Reply-To: <001401c8f8ca$ea4bd660$0c00190a@ktmlt2>
Message-ID: <KEEFKEBLFKHNFLLGFNOGAEPGCFAA.matt@vander-bend.com>

but BBQ and sling'n cow pies is Tradition,  don't forget the 12er of Shiner
& some wetnaps!
Matt in California but don't hold that against me..
;)

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Kevin McDonald
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 1:20 PM
To: Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Reminder: Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This
Saturday


I'm Sorry,
You can't combine BBQ and Wine Tasting.
That's just wrong...
Kevin in Texas

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" <tom at datsun2000.com>
To: "Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 12:30 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Reminder: Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This Saturday


> Bill and Karen Neal are hosting a Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This
> Saturday
> in Shed, Oregon.
>
> Shed is near Corvallis, and about an hour and a half South of Portland.
>
> The fun run starts around 10:30 AM and the BBQ/Wine tasting will be around
> 4
> PM.
>
> I am planning to leave Portland on I-205 around 8:30.  If anyone would
> like
> to arrange a meeting place for a caravan send me a note here, or to
> phone at datsun2000.com, where I will receive the message on my cell phone.
>
> Mr. Hyde and I are looking forward meeting new friends and having a very
> good day.
>
> More information is posted on the NOWROC web site Calendar of Events:
>
> http://www.nowroc.org/events
>
> Tom
> 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
> Portland
> http://www.datsun2000.com
> http://www.nowroc.org
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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Thu Aug  7 15:11:15 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:11:15 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Reminder: Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This Saturday
In-Reply-To: <001401c8f8ca$ea4bd660$0c00190a@ktmlt2>
References: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGOEGMDFAA.tom@datsun2000.com>
	<001401c8f8ca$ea4bd660$0c00190a@ktmlt2>
Message-ID: <002f01c8f8d2$22b0eca0$6812c5e0$@net>

  What, you got something against a pot of baked beans and a box of red
wine?  (:-)

Paul
Ohio

-----Original Message-----

I'm Sorry,
You can't combine BBQ and Wine Tasting.
That's just wrong...
Kevin in Texas

----- Original Message ----- 

> Bill and Karen Neal are hosting a Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This 
> Saturday
> in Shed, Oregon.
>
> Shed is near Corvallis, and about an hour and a half South of Portland.
>
> The fun run starts around 10:30 AM and the BBQ/Wine tasting will be around

> 4
> PM.
>
> I am planning to leave Portland on I-205 around 8:30.  If anyone would 
> like
> to arrange a meeting place for a caravan send me a note here, or to
> phone at datsun2000.com, where I will receive the message on my cell phone.
>
> Mr. Hyde and I are looking forward meeting new friends and having a very
> good day.
>
> More information is posted on the NOWROC web site Calendar of Events:
>
> http://www.nowroc.org/events
>
> Tom

From datrock at centurytel.net  Thu Aug  7 15:18:43 2008
From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole)
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:18:43 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Reminder: Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This Saturday
In-Reply-To: <KEEFKEBLFKHNFLLGFNOGAEPGCFAA.matt@vander-bend.com>
References: <KEEFKEBLFKHNFLLGFNOGAEPGCFAA.matt@vander-bend.com>
Message-ID: <489B66B2.8060307@centurytel.net>

I'm bringing the Mesquite flavored Cheese Whiz...LOL...Bill

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Thu Aug  7 15:29:22 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:29:22 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Reminder: Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This Saturday
In-Reply-To: <489B66B2.8060307@centurytel.net>
References: <KEEFKEBLFKHNFLLGFNOGAEPGCFAA.matt@vander-bend.com>
	<489B66B2.8060307@centurytel.net>
Message-ID: <8CAC6EBCB1E0F91-6C0-E60@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com>

 Maybe the Texan should throw a BBQ and show everyone how it's done. LOL
Yeeehaw!
Linda


 


 

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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Thu Aug  7 16:58:29 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 18:58:29 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Reminder: Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This Saturday
In-Reply-To: <8CAC6EBCB1E0F91-6C0-E60@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com>
References: <KEEFKEBLFKHNFLLGFNOGAEPGCFAA.matt@vander-bend.com>
	<489B66B2.8060307@centurytel.net>
	<8CAC6EBCB1E0F91-6C0-E60@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <003901c8f8e1$1d1aba00$57502e00$@net>

  Date, time, and will you pick me up at the airport!

Paul
Ohio

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of ljordan704 at netscape.net
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 5:29 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Reminder: Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This
Saturday

 Maybe the Texan should throw a BBQ and show everyone how it's done. LOL
Yeeehaw!
Linda


 


 

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From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Thu Aug  7 17:37:55 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 19:37:55 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Reminder: Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This Saturday
In-Reply-To: <002f01c8f8d2$22b0eca0$6812c5e0$@net>
Message-ID: <E1KRF3K-0003Nc-Cs@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

The "secret ingredient" in Dad's BBQ was a bottle of Ripple. :-)
Matt in TN

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 5:11 PM
To: 'Kevin McDonald'; 'Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net'
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Reminder: Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This
Saturday

  What, you got something against a pot of baked beans and a box of red
wine?  (:-)

Paul
Ohio

-----Original Message-----

I'm Sorry,
You can't combine BBQ and Wine Tasting.
That's just wrong...
Kevin in Texas

----- Original Message ----- 

> Bill and Karen Neal are hosting a Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This 
> Saturday
> in Shed, Oregon.
>
> Shed is near Corvallis, and about an hour and a half South of Portland.
>
> The fun run starts around 10:30 AM and the BBQ/Wine tasting will be around

> 4
> PM.
>
> I am planning to leave Portland on I-205 around 8:30.  If anyone would 
> like
> to arrange a meeting place for a caravan send me a note here, or to
> phone at datsun2000.com, where I will receive the message on my cell phone.
>
> Mr. Hyde and I are looking forward meeting new friends and having a very
> good day.
>
> More information is posted on the NOWROC web site Calendar of Events:
>
> http://www.nowroc.org/events
>
> Tom
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From davesmbox at aol.com  Thu Aug  7 18:01:06 2008
From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:01:06 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] SEATS  a little OT Well maybe more than a little
Message-ID: <8CAC700FD62EF59-117C-2E46@webmail-de19.sysops.aol.com>

Can anyone give me as many of the dimmensions as thet can get off some 240Z seats. I am doing a Saab Sonett. The seats are shot and no kits are made. Custom is big bucks. The 240 Z seats look the same and you can get all leather kits for about $400. It would be a grand to do the sonett seats and the cloth center would still not be correct.
Hieght,width,hieght off the floor and thickness would help.
Thanks,
Dave

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Thu Aug  7 19:46:48 2008
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 20:46:48 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] fuel issues
References: <d01.375dfb80.35c0c4f3@aol.com>
	<000201c8f2ba$27a67b80$6415a8c0@garage.local>
	<000801c8f2d6$1a7afcd0$0300a8c0@HPW>
Message-ID: <001c01c8f8f8$a1170f40$6415a8c0@garage.local>

i am using an electric fuel pump in my early 67 1600.  it failed.

in the troubleshooting process i substituted another pump, which i believe, 
but cannot guarantee to be about the same pressure.

besides the fact that the engine coughs, sputters, and jerks violently, fuel 
comes out of the vents on the fuel bowls.

could i have some sort of clog in the carbs?

it coughed, sputtered, and jerked violently before the pump went out.

i just set the valves.  some valves seemed to have no gap at all.

i don't think i can get it to run long enough to really set the timing.  on 
the dizzy there is a little gage with A on one side and R on the other.  its 
about in the middle.  I played with this to no effect.

before that it ran beautifully . . . 

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Thu Aug  7 20:40:29 2008
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 19:40:29 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] All Nissan Show, North Vancouver, BC ??
Message-ID: <000801c8f900$1f7ef7b0$6500a8c0@Daryl>

Anyone have a date for this show in North Vancouver, BC.
I've got to get it marked down before I forget about it till it's too late!!

Thanks
Daryl

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu Aug  7 21:06:06 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:06:06 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] All Nissan Show, North Vancouver, BC ??
Message-ID: <080820080306.14262.489BB81E000326DC000037B62200735834CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

September 13-14, 2008 - Nissan Autocross and Show n Shine
Vancouver BC, Canada
Sat 13: Autocross at Skytrain in Surrey
Sun 14: Car show at Waterfront Park in North Vancouver
http://www.bczregistry.com

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Daryl Smith" <drlsmith at dccnet.com>
> Anyone have a date for this show in North Vancouver, BC.
> I've got to get it marked down before I forget about it till it's too late!!
> 
> Thanks
> Daryl
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From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Thu Aug  7 21:25:37 2008
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:25:37 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] fuel issues
References: <d01.375dfb80.35c0c4f3@aol.com>
	<000201c8f2ba$27a67b80$6415a8c0@garage.local>
	<000801c8f2d6$1a7afcd0$0300a8c0@HPW>
Message-ID: <001a01c8f906$71904760$6415a8c0@garage.local>

i'll get a different pump and let you know what happens.

thanks!

From vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  7 21:27:58 2008
From: vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com (Vince Strazzabosco)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 20:27:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] fuel issues
In-Reply-To: <001c01c8f8f8$a1170f40$6415a8c0@garage.local>
Message-ID: <235879.1967.qm@web33504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Are you using an adjustable pressure regulator?  This may be your problem, the pressure from the new pump might be too high.

vince

--- On Thu, 8/7/08, Oliver <sumton at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> From: Oliver <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [Roadsters] fuel issues
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 8:46 PM
> i am using an electric fuel pump in my early 67 1600.  it
> failed.
> 
> in the troubleshooting process i substituted another pump,
> which i believe, 
> but cannot guarantee to be about the same pressure.
> 
> besides the fact that the engine coughs, sputters, and
> jerks violently, fuel 
> comes out of the vents on the fuel bowls.
> 
> could i have some sort of clog in the carbs?
> 
> it coughed, sputtered, and jerked violently before the pump
> went out.
> 
> i just set the valves.  some valves seemed to have no gap
> at all.
> 
> i don't think i can get it to run long enough to really
> set the timing.  on 
> the dizzy there is a little gage with A on one side and R
> on the other.  its 
> about in the middle.  I played with this to no effect.
> 
> before that it ran beautifully . . . 
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From stathy at shaw.ca  Thu Aug  7 21:41:24 2008
From: stathy at shaw.ca (stan)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 20:41:24 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Jumping jack tac
Message-ID: <000e01c8f908$a1cab490$6500a8c0@g71901fc8f5974>

Hello all,
I seem to have a tac that jumps all over the place from low idle to
about 2500 RPM.  It just bounces up and down.
Once I rev it up past 2500-3000 it smoothens out and gives me an
accurate reading.
 
I have a 69-1600.  Is this normal?  If not, what could possibly be the
cause(s)?
 
I would appreciate any help.
Cheers!
 
Stan
Coquitlam (just outside of Vancouver), BC

From aultgc at att.net  Thu Aug  7 21:53:18 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:53:18 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Jumping jack tac
References: <000e01c8f908$a1cab490$6500a8c0@g71901fc8f5974>
Message-ID: <00db01c8f90a$4ba5ded0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

Stan,

My guess is binding in the tach cable.  It doesn't have to be much -- just 
enough to interfere with smooth movement at lower rpm.  Take the cable out 
of the car, withdraw the cable from the sheath (being careful to note the 
location and position of any seals, and so forth), withdraw the cable from 
the sheath, and lubricate with WD-40.  (Yes, I know there has been some 
controversy about WD-40 on the list, but it worked for me.)  Work the cable 
back and forth to distribute lubricant, and re-install.  If there are any 
kinks in the sheath, of course, replace the entire cable assembly.

If that doesn't work, the only other alternative I know is to have the tach 
itself overhauled.  But, correcting cable problems solved similar issues 
with both my tach and speedo.

Gary Ault

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From: "stan" <stathy at shaw.ca>
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:41 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Jumping jack tac


> Hello all,
> I seem to have a tac that jumps all over the place from low idle to
> about 2500 RPM.  It just bounces up and down.
> Once I rev it up past 2500-3000 it smoothens out and gives me an
> accurate reading.
>
> I have a 69-1600.  Is this normal?  If not, what could possibly be the
> cause(s)?
>
> I would appreciate any help.
> Cheers!
>
> Stan
> Coquitlam (just outside of Vancouver), BC
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From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Fri Aug  8 04:06:20 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 06:06:20 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] WD40 Alternative - Product endorsement
Message-ID: <E1KROrS-0000pT-Nn@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi All,

I've seen the posts about WD recently. I thought I'd throw this out there.
There is a product called Jig-a-loo. It's a spray silicone lubricant. This
stuff is amazing!!! It's super slippery, won't gum up, and can also be used
as a waterproofing spray. I love it. I'm on my 3rd can and will never use
any of the cans of WD I own, ever again. It can be found at places like Pep
Boys, Lowes, Walmart, etc.

Matt Smith

From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Fri Aug  8 07:09:23 2008
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 06:09:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] WD40 Alternative - Product endorsement
In-Reply-To: <E1KROrS-0000pT-Nn@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <43576.95513.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Any silicone-based lubricant is better than WD-40 for long-term lubrication - like for a tach cable. They stay slippery and don't dry out to leave a gummy film.

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

"Matthew A. Smith" <matthews517 at earthlink.net> wrote: Hi All,

I've seen the posts about WD recently. I thought I'd throw this out there.
There is a product called Jig-a-loo. It's a spray silicone lubricant. This
stuff is amazing!!! It's super slippery, won't gum up, and can also be used
as a waterproofing spray. I love it. I'm on my 3rd can and will never use
any of the cans of WD I own, ever again. It can be found at places like Pep
Boys, Lowes, Walmart, etc.

Matt Smith
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From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Fri Aug  8 08:10:39 2008
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 07:10:39 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] WD40 Alternative - Product endorsement
In-Reply-To: <E1KROrS-0000pT-Nn@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1KROrS-0000pT-Nn@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <b0b0059f0808080710w61cdcd8fv178e87f05aacbb5a@mail.gmail.com>

Jig-a-loo is what I use, I like it. Also as a good penetrating solution I
like to use PB Blast.




On 8/8/08, Matthew A. Smith <matthews517 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I've seen the posts about WD recently. I thought I'd throw this out there.
> There is a product called Jig-a-loo. It's a spray silicone lubricant. This
> stuff is amazing!!! It's super slippery, won't gum up, and can also be used
> as a waterproofing spray. I love it. I'm on my 3rd can and will never use
> any of the cans of WD I own, ever again. It can be found at places like Pep
> Boys, Lowes, Walmart, etc.
>
> Matt Smith
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------------------------------------------------------
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If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky
enough.

From 12061997 at comcast.net  Fri Aug  8 09:02:57 2008
From: 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:02:57 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] paint
Message-ID: <080820081502.317.489C602100010DC50000013D2200761064C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net>

Hi  List, does anyone know the color of the light yellow almost a butter -scotch that was on the 1600's? thanks bob b 67-1600 muncie,in

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Aug  8 10:26:37 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:26:37 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Yellow paint code
In-Reply-To: <080820081502.317.489C602100010DC50000013D2200761064C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <0E2677F2841A46E09997B082C211BA34@xp>

Kinda like this?

<http://www.311s.org/registry/1970/srl311-13136.html>

Yellow - paint code 665

<http://www.datsun.org/roadster/info/paintcodes.html>

Pete 

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 8:03 AM
To: datsun list datsun
Subject: [Roadsters] paint


Hi  List, does anyone know the color of the light yellow almost a butter
-scotch that was on the 1600's? 

thanks bob b 
67-1600 
muncie,in

From sandhoff at csus.edu  Fri Aug  8 10:26:31 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:26:31 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Silicone spray (was: WD40 Alternative)
In-Reply-To: <43576.95513.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <E1KROrS-0000pT-Nn@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <489C1147.16792.3C95D3@localhost>

> Any silicone-based lubricant is better than WD-40 for long-term lubrication..

One cautionary note: Keep it away from modern car engines.

There are numerous reports (just google 'silicone +"oxygen sensor"')
that silicone will poison oxygen sensors. A spray or two under the
hood could lead to a 'check engine' failure on a modern engine.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From vulforge at aol.com  Fri Aug  8 12:04:06 2008
From: vulforge at aol.com (vulforge at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:04:06 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] BBQ
Message-ID: <8CAC79848A0E0A2-1900-4AB@MBLK-M29.sysops.aol.com>

Maybe the Texan should throw a BBQ and show everyone how it's done. LOL
Yeeehaw!
Linda

If y'all want to see how it's done, I will happily host a BBQ tour of Kansas City; the home of the finest BBQ on the planet.? And yes, I will pick you up at the airport and put you up for the night!


Russell Criswell
Vulcan's Forge
3936 Broadway
Kansas City, MO
64111

816-931-6303
816-931-9378 fax
877-531-1046 toll-free
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Aug  8 12:22:26 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 11:22:26 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] BBQ
In-Reply-To: <8CAC79848A0E0A2-1900-4AB@MBLK-M29.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <78011FCA930E4524A146810BB1FBD4E3@xp>

Uh-oh....sounds like a BBQ throwdown to me; Kansas City style vs Texas
style. Anyone from North Carolina? <g>

Pete "I saw this on the Food Network"

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From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of vulforge at aol.com
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 11:04 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] BBQ


Maybe the Texan should throw a BBQ and show everyone how it's done. LOL
Yeeehaw! Linda

If y'all want to see how it's done, I will happily host a BBQ tour of Kansas
City; the home of the finest BBQ on the planet.? And yes, I will pick you up
at the airport and put you up for the night!


Russell Criswell
Vulcan's Forge
3936 Broadway
Kansas City, MO
64111

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From 12061997 at comcast.net  Fri Aug  8 13:00:02 2008
From: 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:00:02 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] BBQ
Message-ID: <080820081900.19415.489C97B2000217BB00004BD72200761438C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net>

I'm with you Russell! I'm retired from NS RR and use to run from Moberly to NKC  and lived in KC for a while......Take em to Bryant's or Bates or 20 other restaurants and let them match those. I love Texas and just had a couple of BBQ meals around Austin last month and they were great but not Bryant's...( I do understand Austin is not TEXAS much anymore)bob ballinger 67-1600 Muncie,IN 

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: vulforge at aol.com 

> Maybe the Texan should throw a BBQ and show everyone how it's done. LOL 
> Yeeehaw! 
> Linda 
> 
> If y'all want to see how it's done, I will happily host a BBQ tour of Kansas 
> City; the home of the finest BBQ on the planet.? And yes, I will pick you up at 
> the airport and put you up for the night! 
> 
> 
> Russell Criswell 
> Vulcan's Forge 
> 3936 Broadway 
> Kansas City, MO 
> 64111 
> 
> 816-931-6303 
> 816-931-9378 fax 
> 877-531-1046 toll-free 
> www.vulcans-forge.com 
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From rabush2000 at hotmail.com  Fri Aug  8 13:34:49 2008
From: rabush2000 at hotmail.com (Richard Bush)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 23:34:49 +0400
Subject: [Roadsters] BBQ
In-Reply-To: <080820081900.19415.489C97B2000217BB00004BD72200761438C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY129-DAV1B79584D0E1704186E78AD2740@phx.gbl>

If you are in Austin, check out Salt Lick and Busters - both worth a visit


On 8/8/08 11:00 PM, "Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana" <12061997 at comcast.net>
wrote:

> I'm with you Russell! I'm retired from NS RR and use to run from Moberly to
> NKC  and lived in KC for a while......Take em to Bryant's or Bates or 20 other
> restaurants and let them match those. I love Texas and just had a couple of
> BBQ meals around Austin last month and they were great but not Bryant's...( I
> do understand Austin is not TEXAS much anymore)bob ballinger 67-1600 Muncie,IN
> 
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: vulforge at aol.com
> 
>> Maybe the Texan should throw a BBQ and show everyone how it's done. LOL
>> Yeeehaw! 
>> Linda 
>> 
>> If y'all want to see how it's done, I will happily host a BBQ tour of Kansas
>> City; the home of the finest BBQ on the planet.? And yes, I will pick you up
>> at 
>> the airport and put you up for the night!
>> 
>> 
>> Russell Criswell
>> Vulcan's Forge 
>> 3936 Broadway 
>> Kansas City, MO 
>> 64111 
>> 
>> 816-931-6303 
>> 816-931-9378 fax
>> 877-531-1046 toll-free
>> www.vulcans-forge.com
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From conner_a at comcast.net  Fri Aug  8 15:11:06 2008
From: conner_a at comcast.net (conner_a at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:11:06 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] BBQ
Message-ID: <080820082111.28905.489CB66A0006F66A000070E922058891160EA19D0A0202010C@comcast.net>

Plus The County Line (ribs) and Stubbs (pulled pork sandwich).  

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: Richard Bush <rabush2000 at hotmail.com> 

> If you are in Austin, check out Salt Lick and Busters - both worth a visit 
> 
> 
> On 8/8/08 11:00 PM, "Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana" <12061997 at comcast.net> 
> wrote: 
> 
> > I'm with you Russell! I'm retired from NS RR and use to run from Moberly to 
> > NKC and lived in KC for a while......Take em to Bryant's or Bates or 20 other 
> > restaurants and let them match those. I love Texas and just had a couple of 
> > BBQ meals around Austin last month and they were great but not Bryant's...( I 
> > do understand Austin is not TEXAS much anymore)bob ballinger 67-1600 Muncie,IN 
> > 
> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > From: vulforge at aol.com 
> > 
> >> Maybe the Texan should throw a BBQ and show everyone how it's done. LOL 
> >> Yeeehaw! 
> >> Linda 
> >> 
> >> If y'all want to see how it's done, I will happily host a BBQ tour of Kansas 
> >> City; the home of the finest BBQ on the planet.? And yes, I will pick you up 
> >> at 
> >> the airport and put you up for the night! 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Russell Criswell 
> >> Vulcan's Forge 
> >> 3936 Broadway 
> >> Kansas City, MO 
> >> 64111 
> >> 
> >> 816-931-6303 
> >> 816-931-9378 fax 
> >> 877-531-1046 toll-free 
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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Fri Aug  8 15:36:12 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:36:12 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT; What To Do With Old Airplane Motor
Message-ID: <007c01c8f99e$e911b560$bb352020$@net>

  I know itbs not a Datsun, but I doubt there is another bike like this!

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of ATT00088.jpg]

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Fri Aug  8 15:43:21 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:43:21 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] BBQ
In-Reply-To: <080820082111.28905.489CB66A0006F66A000070E922058891160EA19D0A0202010C@comcast.net>
References: <080820082111.28905.489CB66A0006F66A000070E922058891160EA19D0A0202010C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <008a01c8f99f$c9a85e30$5cf91a90$@net>

  Texas, Kansas, Carolinas!  Only one way to settle this.  Everybody go out
and buy the BBQ of your choice and send it to me.  I'll sample everything
and report back.

Paul
Never met a BBQ I didn't lick my fingers after!
Ohio

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Fri Aug  8 15:45:30 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:45:30 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT; What To Do With Old Airplane Motor
In-Reply-To: <20080808174144.YCER2.174963.root@mp17>
References: <007c01c8f99e$e911b560$bb352020$@net>
	<20080808174144.YCER2.174963.root@mp17>
Message-ID: <008b01c8f9a0$15b339d0$4119ad70$@net>

  Need a place to post this photo so anyone interested can see it.  Definitely
a one-of-a-kind bike!

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim [mailto:tputland at charter.net]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 5:42 PM
To: Paul
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT; What To Do With Old Airplane Motor

you can't do attachment. They get removed.
--


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

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From tputland at charter.net  Fri Aug  8 16:04:46 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 15:04:46 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT; What To Do With Old Airplane Motor
In-Reply-To: <008b01c8f9a0$15b339d0$4119ad70$@net>
Message-ID: <20080808180446.768HA.175582.root@mp17>

If no one else will, I can now that we have the Midwest Roadster Roadtrippers
site set up.


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote:

=============
  Need a place to post this photo so anyone interested can see it.  Definitely
a one-of-a-kind bike!

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim [mailto:tputland at charter.net]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 5:42 PM
To: Paul
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT; What To Do With Old Airplane Motor

you can't do attachment. They get removed.
--


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

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=============
  I know itbs not a Datsun, but I doubt there is another bike like this!

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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Fri Aug  8 16:18:52 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:18:52 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] BBQ
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	<008a01c8f99f$c9a85e30$5cf91a90$@net>
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 Testing should be gender-balanced so here you go:
1 800- GoFedEX

Linda


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net>
To: 'datsun-roadsters' <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 2:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] BBQ










  Texas, Kansas, Carolinas!  Only one way to settle this.  Everybody go out
and buy the BBQ of your choice and send it to me.  I'll sample everything
and report back.

Paul
Never met a BBQ I didn't lick my fingers after!
Ohio
________________________________________

From jim at seattle-attorney.com  Fri Aug  8 17:12:40 2008
From: jim at seattle-attorney.com (Jim Anable)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:12:40 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Can you help diagnose a brake problem?
Message-ID: <489CD2E8.7090909@seattle-attorney.com>

I brought my '70 2000 in to the brake shop because the parking brake 
would no longer hold if I applied in on a hill (and I've got a gnarly 
one between office and home).

Shop says I need rear brakes.  Fine.

They complete the job and say that they did a weld on the brake cable 
(?).  I pick the car up, and it seems to drive okay until I try to use 
the parking brake on a hill.  It wouldn't hold, and there's also a 
rhythmic scrape from the rear right drum.  Owner says they may need to 
tack a rod on to brace whatever weld they did.

I take it back for round two.  They can't figure it out.  Gotta leave it 
for a day.

I call the next day, they say "all done, just needed adjustment."

On the way home...  You guessed it!  I *gingerly* apply the brake on a 
slight incline.  It does NOT hold.  There was never a "give" or a sign 
that any weld or repair gave way.  IMMEDIATELY after attempting to set 
the brake, the rhythmic scraping returns!

Any clues?  My brake shop doesn't seem to have one.  Now I'm without my 
car for the weekend.

Thanks in advance,
Jim (who quit messing with brakes years ago, and has forgotten what 
little he knew back then)

From boakes at gmail.com  Fri Aug  8 17:22:33 2008
From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 18:22:33 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] SEATS  a little OT Well maybe more than a  little
In-Reply-To: <8CAC700FD62EF59-117C-2E46@webmail-de19.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CAC700FD62EF59-117C-2E46@webmail-de19.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <5404FF34-6C1D-4CDF-BCA7-910BD751D912@gmail.com>

A great substitute for the Z has always been Miata seats, about the  
same size and sooooo much more comfortable.

I can check the sizes early next week if you don't hear by then

-bill

On Aug 7, 2008, at 7:01 PM, davesmbox at aol.com wrote:

> Can anyone give me as many of the dimmensions as thet can get off  
> some 240Z seats. I am doing a Saab Sonett. The seats are shot and no  
> kits are made. Custom is big bucks. The 240 Z seats look the same  
> and you can get all leather kits for about $400. It would be a grand  
> to do the sonett seats and the cloth center would still not be  
> correct.
> Hieght,width,hieght off the floor and thickness would help.
> Thanks,
> Dave
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From haabu at sbcglobal.net  Fri Aug  8 17:31:43 2008
From: haabu at sbcglobal.net (Herb Petty)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 16:31:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Brakes
Message-ID: <164381.32520.qm@web81807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Ref   Screwed up rear brakes.
   
  I'm afraid , with out looking, That I don't understand the weld job?  However, if new rear shoes were installed & adjusted properly, this creats an automatic adjustment for the  E-brake.
  I believe properly adjusted rear brakes will allow the E-brake handle to rise  3-4 clicks on the E-brake ratchet.  I would think a decent brake shop could see this.  After installing new shoes,  The Nissan manual says to tighten each side ( brake shoes ) until snug.   Then back off  3 clicks on the adjuster.   This also gives the correct setting for the E-brake.
  Hope this helps.     My  1966, will hold on any hill if the tyres have traction !
   
  Herb Petty
  Modesto, Ca.

From aultgc at att.net  Fri Aug  8 18:52:50 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 19:52:50 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] paint
References: <080820081502.317.489C602100010DC50000013D2200761064C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <004701c8f9ba$3fbea0b0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

Bob,

The Rallye website has all the paint codes.

Gary
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana" <12061997 at comcast.net>
To: "datsun list datsun" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 10:02 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] paint


> Hi  List, does anyone know the color of the light yellow almost a 
> butter -scotch that was on the 1600's? thanks bob b 67-1600 muncie,in
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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Fri Aug  8 19:39:57 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 21:39:57 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] BBQ
In-Reply-To: <8CAC79848A0E0A2-1900-4AB@MBLK-M29.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <01de01c8f9c0$d4cb9d10$6800a8c0@delled48909442>

Wouldn't it be great, We pick a date, Don't tell Russell, and 45 people
show up, looking for food and a place to stay!:)
Best BBQ I've had so far was Carey, North Carolina. Now if we are
talking Brazillian BBQ, you need to come up to New Jersey.  Directions
are easy, drive north on I-95, when you smell pollution and toxic waste,
turn left:)

Dave Brisco

-----Original Message-----
From: vulforge at aol.com [mailto:vulforge at aol.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:04 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] BBQ


Maybe the Texan should throw a BBQ and show everyone how it's done. LOL
Yeeehaw! Linda

If y'all want to see how it's done, I will happily host a BBQ tour of
Kansas City; the home of the finest BBQ on the planet.? And yes, I will
pick you up at the airport and put you up for the night!


Russell Criswell
Vulcan's Forge
3936 Broadway
Kansas City, MO
64111

816-931-6303
816-931-9378 fax
877-531-1046 toll-free
www.vulcans-forge.com

From ktmaustin at sbcglobal.net  Fri Aug  8 20:20:14 2008
From: ktmaustin at sbcglobal.net (Kevin McDonald)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 21:20:14 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] BBQ
References: <8CAC79848A0E0A2-1900-4AB@MBLK-M29.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <004901c8f9c6$761297f0$6500190a@ktmlt2>

Looks like I started a major off-topic thread.
Apologies to the list admin.

As long as were at it...
What is BarBQ in your area?
In Texas it is anything that can fit on your grill.
Any kind of ribs, brisket, chicken, sausage, and if your a real Texan wild 
game that you killed with your own intensely cool weapons.
(The meat is on the grill - now you seize the moment to show your buddies 
the latest rifle mods..)
Veggies are fine - load up in tin foil with butter and your favorite 
seasonings.

I've heard that in the SEC BarBQ may have to be pork.
In Texas were an open minded state.
If you can kill it you can grill it.

Gas is for pretenders.
Charcoal has some respect.
Real BarBQers use wood of course.
Beans are best with ham hocks.
Ribs take 6-8 hours at 175-225 degrees.
Brisket up to 12 hours.
A real BarBQer can drink heavily and still wake up at 4AM to load and 
monitor the grill.

A major plus is a Diesel truck with a custom made trailer with a rough hewn 
cast iron pit in the shape of your favorite BIG12 logo.

The Salt Lick is a favorite place.
Basically a set of old farm buildings with all you can eat pricing.
The county or area were it is located is dry so you have to bring your own 
alcohol (Oh darn).
I've seen many coolers of beer and many bottles of brown whisky looking 
stuff there.
But I've never seen any wine...
Kevin

From aultgc at att.net  Fri Aug  8 20:46:28 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 19:46:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] BBQ
Message-ID: <741987.53449.qm@web83822.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

You got a real mean in you there, boy.  ;-)
Gary



----- Original Message
----
From: dave <daveandlindab at comcast.net>
To: vulforge at aol.com;
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Cc: Dave Brisco
<EastCoastRoadster at comcast.net>
Sent: Friday, August 8, 2008 8:39:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] BBQ

Wouldn't it be great, We pick a date, Don't tell
Russell, and 45 people
show up, looking for food and a place to stay!:)
Best
BBQ I've had so far was Carey, North Carolina. Now if we are
talking
Brazillian BBQ, you need to come up to New Jersey.  Directions
are easy, drive
north on I-95, when you smell pollution and toxic waste,
turn left:)

Dave
Brisco

-----Original Message-----
From: vulforge at aol.com
[mailto:vulforge at aol.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:04 PM
To:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] BBQ


Maybe the Texan
should throw a BBQ and show everyone how it's done. LOL
Yeeehaw! Linda

If
y'all want to see how it's done, I will happily host a BBQ tour of
Kansas
City; the home of the finest BBQ on the planet.? And yes, I will
pick you up
at the airport and put you up for the night!


Russell Criswell
Vulcan's Forge
3936 Broadway
Kansas City, MO
64111

816-931-6303
816-931-9378 fax
877-531-1046 toll-free
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From aultgc at att.net  Fri Aug  8 21:00:06 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:00:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] BBQ
Message-ID: <660309.52422.qm@web83826.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

There's a place in Owensboro, Kentucky which claims to have the best BBQ in
the world.  It's a buffet, and they do have variety.  First time I ever had
mutton.  Actually pretty good while hot, but not something I'd try on my own. 
I have had BBQ in a wide range of locales, but my favorites are Dozier's in
Fulshear, Texas and Churchill's in Fulton, Missouri.  (Fulton is where Winston
Churchill made his "Iron Curtain" speech, for those not old enough to
remember.)  Dozier's is widely known for it's pecan smoked everything, but the
bacon is the best.  Churchill's primarily does ribs, and the owner does a
batch each day.  When they're gone, they're gone.
I do brisket on the smoker,
and it does take 10 hours.  So, if you're going to be in the Chicago area, let
me know.  (I'm just around the corner in Northwest Indiana.)  Kids are grown,
so we have two spare bedrooms plus the pull-out in the family room. 
Reasonably complete set of tools and a few spares.
Gary
SPL311-05917 w/U20
SRL311-00428


----- Original Message ----
From: Kevin McDonald
<ktmaustin at sbcglobal.net>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Friday,
August 8, 2008 9:20:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] BBQ

Looks like I started a
major off-topic thread.
Apologies to the list admin.

As long as were at it...
What is BarBQ in your area?
In Texas it is anything that can fit on your
grill.
Any kind of ribs, brisket, chicken, sausage, and if your a real Texan
wild 
game that you killed with your own intensely cool weapons.
(The meat is
on the grill - now you seize the moment to show your buddies 
the latest rifle
mods..)
Veggies are fine - load up in tin foil with butter and your favorite
seasonings.

I've heard that in the SEC BarBQ may have to be pork.
In Texas
were an open minded state.
If you can kill it you can grill it.

Gas is for
pretenders.
Charcoal has some respect.
Real BarBQers use wood of course.
Beans
are best with ham hocks.
Ribs take 6-8 hours at 175-225 degrees.
Brisket up to
12 hours.
A real BarBQer can drink heavily and still wake up at 4AM to load
and 
monitor the grill.

A major plus is a Diesel truck with a custom made
trailer with a rough hewn 
cast iron pit in the shape of your favorite BIG12
logo.

The Salt Lick is a favorite place.
Basically a set of old farm
buildings with all you can eat pricing.
The county or area were it is located
is dry so you have to bring your own 
alcohol (Oh darn).
I've seen many
coolers of beer and many bottles of brown whisky looking 
stuff there.
But
I've never seen any wine...
Kevin
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From tom at datsun2000.com  Fri Aug  8 21:04:58 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:04:58 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Brakes
In-Reply-To: <164381.32520.qm@web81807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BBEDIFCDCKGJDOGMACDMAEDLCBAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

Herb,

Are you sure they mounted the braks to the backing plate correctly???  Here
is a picture of what you should see.  I thought I had a better one, but
apparently not on the web.

http://www.datsun2000.com/tech/brake_adjuster/loaded_backing_plate-500.jpg

Welding the e-brake????  I would suggest you take a serious look at what
they are trying to do yourself.  The e-brake is a breeze if the cables have
not broken.

And did they clean up the adjusters??  Maybe they can't adjust the brakes
because the adjusters won't move.  There is a pictorial on the tech page of
datsun2000.com showing how to take them apart and clean them up.  Not a big
job, but it sure makes a difference when you try to adjust the brakes.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://wwww.nowroc.org

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Herb Petty
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 4:32 PM
To: Datsun List.
Subject: [Roadsters] Brakes


Ref   Screwed up rear brakes.

  I'm afraid , with out looking, That I don't understand the weld job?
However, if new rear shoes were installed & adjusted properly, this creats
an automatic adjustment for the  E-brake.
  I believe properly adjusted rear brakes will allow the E-brake handle to
rise  3-4 clicks on the E-brake ratchet.  I would think a decent brake shop
could see this.  After installing new shoes,  The Nissan manual says to
tighten each side ( brake shoes ) until snug.   Then back off  3 clicks on
the adjuster.   This also gives the correct setting for the E-brake.
  Hope this helps.     My  1966, will hold on any hill if the tyres have
traction !

  Herb Petty
  Modesto, Ca.
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From haabu at sbcglobal.net  Fri Aug  8 21:46:54 2008
From: haabu at sbcglobal.net (Herb Petty)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:46:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Brakes
Message-ID: <137140.90423.qm@web81805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Tom,
  All of your points are  100% correct.   My info was for some one who had the actual problem, on a 1970 2.L
  Hopefully your info will set him in the right direction.   The rear brakes on these little hot rods, should be a no brainer for a Professional Shop  !!
   
   
   
  Herb Petty
  Modesto,  Ca.

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Fri Aug  8 23:27:14 2008
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 00:27:14 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] BBQ
References: <8CAC79848A0E0A2-1900-4AB@MBLK-M29.sysops.aol.com>
	<004901c8f9c6$761297f0$6500190a@ktmlt2>
Message-ID: <001501c8f9e0$964390a0$6415a8c0@garage.local>

in the south bbq is a noun

in the north bbq is a verb

From DickSchnei at aol.com  Sat Aug  9 08:21:34 2008
From: DickSchnei at aol.com (DickSchnei at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 10:21:34 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Can you help diagnose a brake problem?
Message-ID: <bfd.3c44265e.35cf01ee@aol.com>

I just bought a 1969 2000 a few weeks ago and I have been lurking here  since 
then.  I do not have any help for you on this, but have a very  similar 
problem.  :-(  My roadster has no parking brake function at  all.  It turns out 
that the previous owner had replaced the rear brakes  with 240Z brakes, and now 
the parts that the parking brake cable connects to are  gone.  I have found 
places that sell rear brake drums, etc. but have had no  luck in finding the 
parts I need.  There must be some type of lever that  attaches the cables to the 
rear cylinder parts.  
 
Do any of you know of a source for Datsun rear brake parts other than the  
typical brake kits?  I suspect I need something for a 240Z Datsun.
 
I bought a new 1970 2000 roadster in Okinawa while in the US Air Force  and 
brought it back with me.  I drove that car for 15 years before it got  totaled 
when parked in front of my house by a hit and run driver.  I have  regretted 
not fixing that car for 23 years and now am like a kid again with this  "new" 
car.  I used the parking brake, back then, a lot and it is a problem  for me 
now that this car has no parking brake.
 
Hopefully, someone will have the answer for both of us.
 
Thanks,
 
Dick Schneiders
 
 
In a message dated 8/8/2008 6:13:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
jim at seattle-attorney.com writes:

I  brought my '70 2000 in to the brake shop because the parking brake 
would  no longer hold if I applied in on a hill (and I've got a gnarly 
one  between office and home).

Shop says I need rear brakes.   Fine.

They complete the job and say that they did a weld on the brake  cable 
(?).  I pick the car up, and it seems to drive okay until I try  to use 
the parking brake on a hill.  It wouldn't hold, and there's  also a 
rhythmic scrape from the rear right drum.  Owner says they may  need to 
tack a rod on to brace whatever weld they did.

I take it  back for round two.  They can't figure it out.  Gotta leave it  
for a day.

I call the next day, they say "all done, just needed  adjustment."

On the way home...  You guessed it!  I  *gingerly* apply the brake on a 
slight incline.  It does NOT  hold.  There was never a "give" or a sign 
that any weld or repair  gave way.  IMMEDIATELY after attempting to set 
the brake, the  rhythmic scraping returns!

Any clues?  My brake shop doesn't seem  to have one.  Now I'm without my 
car for the weekend.

Thanks  in advance,
Jim (who quit messing with brakes years ago, and has forgotten  what 
little he knew back then)







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From 12061997 at comcast.net  Sat Aug  9 12:07:45 2008
From: 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana)
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:07:45 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] paint
Message-ID: <080920081807.12890.489DDCF10008B7D30000325A2200750330C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net>

Hi List, Off to the body shop for paint finally. Need to pick out a color for the 67 and wanted Spanish Red. I think that is what my 67 had when it was new.  How do I get this color mix for my body shop? Any suggestions...thanks, bob 

From haabu at sbcglobal.net  Sat Aug  9 13:56:33 2008
From: haabu at sbcglobal.net (Herb Petty)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 12:56:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Repairs
Message-ID: <532414.6494.qm@web81802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Dick,
  If it were me, I'd certainly consider putting the rear brakes back to stock.  When installed properly, they work just fine.     You could consider some of the many vendors,  ie  Stan Chernoff  (  310-320-4554 ) or Ross Mullen, at Sports Imports   ( 604-538-5615 )      Mike Young,
  at Datsun Sports,( 707-928-4029 ) also is very helpful.    You may only need a little brake hardware, & some correct shoes.   Please consider checking the whole brake system.  These cars are old, & you might find that alittle maintenance is due.   You'll be happy that you did, & have many pleasent miles.
  Herb Petty
  Modesto,  Ca.

From DickSchnei at aol.com  Sat Aug  9 14:48:41 2008
From: DickSchnei at aol.com (DickSchnei at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 16:48:41 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Repairs
Message-ID: <c08.429d3814.35cf5ca9@aol.com>

Herb,
 
I appreciate the suggestion, but my frugal nature enters in here.  The  
brakes are nearly new, both the front rotors and the rear drums, and work very  
well right now.  This was verified both from a visual check with the wheels  off 
and some simulated panic stops.  I have some other items that are more  
pressing, like a new top.  If I could get away with simply adding the  correct 
arms/levers it would probably fit in with my budget a bit better.
 
Why do roadster owners fit 240z brakes on these cars, anyway?  Do they  stop 
the car better 
or are they less expensive?  As I understand it, some work needs to be  done 
to accomplish this.
 
I will consider going back to stock, but I will need to determine what  
hardware is needed.
 
Thanks,
 
Dick Schneiders
 
 
In a message dated 8/9/2008 2:57:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
haabu at sbcglobal.net writes:

Dick,
If it were me, I'd certainly consider putting the rear  brakes back to stock. 
 When installed properly, they work just  fine.     You could consider some 
of the many vendors,   ie  Stan Chernoff  (  310-320-4554 ) or Ross Mullen, at 
Sports  Imports   ( 604-538-5615 )      Mike Young,
at Datsun Sports,( 707-928-4029 ) also is very helpful.    You may  only need 
a little brake hardware, & some correct shoes.    Please consider checking 
the whole brake system.  These cars are old,  & you might find that alittle 
maintenance is due.   You'll be  happy that you did, & have many pleasent miles.
Herb  Petty
Modesto,   Ca.
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From graemes at internode.on.net  Sat Aug  9 18:43:25 2008
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 10:13:25 +0930
Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Repairs
In-Reply-To: <c08.429d3814.35cf5ca9@aol.com>
References: <c08.429d3814.35cf5ca9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000301c8fa82$1b4a8460$236fa8c0@desktop>

"Why do roadster owners fit 240z brakes on these cars, anyway?  Do they
stop the car better or are they less expensive?
Dick Schneiders"
 
Hi Dick, 
probably a desperate attempt to get the brakes working again without doing a
little searching for the correct parts???

Anyhoo, I have a BUCKET of 240/260Z rear brake parts with those levers.
If you wish, I can send you the bits for shipping $ only.
It might be a gamble as to whether they fix the problem but you won't know
until you try them.
P.S. it was I who answered your post on the 311s.org site ;)

From Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com  Sat Aug  9 18:59:53 2008
From: Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com (Pat)
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 19:59:53 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] BBQ
In-Reply-To: <BAY129-DAV1B79584D0E1704186E78AD2740@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY129-DAV1B79584D0E1704186E78AD2740@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <489E3D89.9080900@HorneSystemsTx.com>

Lockhart, Texas is just 30 minutes South of Austin and has been 
certified as the BBQ capitol of Texas. Seriously, this town of 12,000 
has 4 really great BBQ joints, and many others also. On the, food 
channel, I think, there was a BBQ tour of the US. They visited Bryant's, 
and at least one other in the city. They visited 3 of the best in 
Lockhart, not even mentioning the one I like best!

Come on down and let's have a BBQ crawl!

Peace,
Pat
Lockhart, Tx.

Thusly spake Richard Bush:
> If you are in Austin, check out Salt Lick and Busters - both worth a visit
>
>
> On 8/8/08 11:00 PM, "Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana" <12061997 at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>   
>> I'm with you Russell! I'm retired from NS RR and use to run from Moberly to
>> NKC  and lived in KC for a while......Take em to Bryant's or Bates or 20 other
>> restaurants and let them match those. I love Texas and just had a couple of
>> BBQ meals around Austin last month and they were great but not Bryant's...( I
>> do understand Austin is not TEXAS much anymore)bob ballinger 67-1600 Muncie,IN
>>
>> -------------- Original message --------------
>> From: vulforge at aol.com
>>
>>     
>>> Maybe the Texan should throw a BBQ and show everyone how it's done. LOL
>>> Yeeehaw! 
>>> Linda 
>>>
>>> If y'all want to see how it's done, I will happily host a BBQ tour of Kansas
>>> City; the home of the finest BBQ on the planet.? And yes, I will pick you up
>>> at 
>>> the airport and put you up for the night!
>>>
>>>
>>> Russell Criswell
>>> Vulcan's Forge 
>>> 3936 Broadway 
>>> Kansas City, MO 
>>> 64111 
>>>
>>> 816-931-6303 
>>> 816-931-9378 fax
>>> 877-531-1046 toll-free
>>> www.vulcans-forge.com
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From jedwabny at earthlink.net  Sat Aug  9 22:02:03 2008
From: jedwabny at earthlink.net (Joseph Jedwabny)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 21:02:03 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: removing decals
Message-ID: <1124209.1218340923468.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hello,

I have a utility trailer that has the former business owners graphic on it. Does anyone know the best way to remove the graphic? It looks like it is a glue on type of decal. Thanks for any help.

Joe

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Sat Aug  9 22:51:25 2008
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 21:51:25 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] All Nissan Show, North Vancouver, BC ??
References: <080820080306.14262.489BB81E000326DC000037B62200735834CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000e01c8faa4$c067d570$6500a8c0@Daryl>

Thanks Pete!
Anyone else on the list going?
Autocross at the Skytrain station in Surrey ought to be interesting.
Better keep a close eye on your car in that neighborhood!

Daryl


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] All Nissan Show, North Vancouver, BC ??


> September 13-14, 2008 - Nissan Autocross and Show n Shine
> Vancouver BC, Canada
> Sat 13: Autocross at Skytrain in Surrey
> Sun 14: Car show at Waterfront Park in North Vancouver
> http://www.bczregistry.com
>
> Pete
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Daryl Smith" <drlsmith at dccnet.com>
>> Anyone have a date for this show in North Vancouver, BC.
>> I've got to get it marked down before I forget about it till it's too 
>> late!!
>>
>> Thanks
>> Daryl

From mikef at carolina.rr.com  Sun Aug 10 09:14:16 2008
From: mikef at carolina.rr.com (mikef at carolina.rr.com)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:14:16 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: removing decals
Message-ID: <19259675.992361218381256684.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web25-z02>

at one of the transportation outfits, they removed the decals on trucks and trailers with a 3M wheel inserted in a drill.  I know that this sounds weird, but check with company that leases trailers for big trucks.  


> I have a utility trailer that has the former business owners graphic on it. Does anyone know the best way to remove the graphic? It looks like it is a glue on type of decal. Thanks for any help.
> 
> Joe
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From zariwny100 at comcast.net  Sun Aug 10 10:30:23 2008
From: zariwny100 at comcast.net (Kerry and Kae Zariwny)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 09:30:23 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: removing decals
References: <1124209.1218340923468.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <000501c8fb07$20b36630$6801a8c0@YOUR0E16268AB7>

I do not know how many decals you are talking about but I have had good luck 
with this stuff getting decals off cars. Not aggressive at all so it is safe 
on paint.

http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/car+maintenance/restoration/adhesive+remover%2C+8+ounces.do?search=basic&keyword=adhesive&sortby=newArrivals&page=1

There is also a spray version.


Kerry Z
1968 1600
Portland, Oregon


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From: "Joseph Jedwabny" <jedwabny at earthlink.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:02 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: removing decals


> Hello,
>
> I have a utility trailer that has the former business owners graphic on 
> it. Does anyone know the best way to remove the graphic? It looks like it 
> is a glue on type of decal. Thanks for any help.
>
> Joe
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From James at jdfogg.com  Sun Aug 10 11:37:28 2008
From: James at jdfogg.com (James Fogg)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:37:28 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: removing decals
Message-ID: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A922195@sbs.jdfogg.com>

If it's a vinyl bumper-sticker type of decal heat works like a charm.
Something hotter than a hair dryer. I've used torches and heat guns.

Acetone often works too. I can't tell you how the paint will behave with
acetone, so test it.



> I do not know how many decals you are talking about but I have had
good
> luck
> with this stuff getting decals off cars. Not aggressive at all so it
is
> safe
> on paint.
>
>
http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/car+maintenance/restoration/adhesive
+r
>
emover%2C+8+ounces.do?search=basic&keyword=adhesive&sortby=newArrivals&p
ag
> e=1
>
> There is also a spray version.

From datsun67vette06 at sbcglobal.net  Sun Aug 10 12:05:12 2008
From: datsun67vette06 at sbcglobal.net (Kerry Dehmel)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:05:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Test
Message-ID: <967159.17144.qm@web83815.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Checking to see if new registration works. 
Had to change address. former
email  kdrapidprint at psnw.com
Thanks
 
Kerry Dehmel
Fresno, CA
1976.5 Datsun
Roadster -- 1600 Blue 
1967.5 Datsun Roadster -- 1600 Emerald green
2006  
Corvette Coupe--  Montery red

From stathy at shaw.ca  Sun Aug 10 13:58:57 2008
From: stathy at shaw.ca (stan)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 12:58:57 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] overspray on rubber parts
Message-ID: <000001c8fb23$86c2a730$6500a8c0@g71901fc8f5974>

Hello all, first off I'd like to thank Gary and Greg for helping me out
with my tachometer issue.
I pulled the tach cable and lubed it up as per their recommendations.
It seems to be working better now but still not 100%.  
I discovered during this process that the straighter the cable is, the
less it tends to jump at lower
rpm's.  Almost there.  Thanks guys!
 
I'm wondering if anyone out there has tips on what products to use to
clean off overspray on rubber parts.
My trunk gasket has 10 year old overspray on it and I can't seem to get
it off.  It's not a heavy paint, but a mist.
Unfortunately it's red and not black :-(
 
Somewhere out there I thought there was a coating that you can put
overtop of tires and other rubbers which restores the
color (almost like a black coating).
 
Does anyone have any tips?
 
If so I'd greatly appreciate any advice.
 
Cheers!
 
Stan from Coquitlam (just outside of Vancouver)
1969 - 1600

From tputland at charter.net  Sun Aug 10 16:30:17 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:30:17 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] overspray on rubber parts
In-Reply-To: <000001c8fb23$86c2a730$6500a8c0@g71901fc8f5974>
Message-ID: <20080810183017.174PW.132735.root@mp12>

Steve Harvey told me of a product that works for this but I do not remember what it is. He is out of town right now and thus away from a computer but if he doesn't respond to you (or the list) directly, let me know and I will check with him.

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- stan <stathy at shaw.ca> wrote: 

=============
Hello all, first off I'd like to thank Gary and Greg for helping me out
with my tachometer issue.
I pulled the tach cable and lubed it up as per their recommendations.
It seems to be working better now but still not 100%.  
I discovered during this process that the straighter the cable is, the
less it tends to jump at lower
rpm's.  Almost there.  Thanks guys!
 
I'm wondering if anyone out there has tips on what products to use to
clean off overspray on rubber parts.
My trunk gasket has 10 year old overspray on it and I can't seem to get
it off.  It's not a heavy paint, but a mist.
Unfortunately it's red and not black :-(
 
Somewhere out there I thought there was a coating that you can put
overtop of tires and other rubbers which restores the
color (almost like a black coating).
 
Does anyone have any tips?
 
If so I'd greatly appreciate any advice.
 
Cheers!
 
Stan from Coquitlam (just outside of Vancouver)
1969 - 1600
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From Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com  Sun Aug 10 17:30:42 2008
From: Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com (Pat)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:30:42 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: removing decals
In-Reply-To: <1124209.1218340923468.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <1124209.1218340923468.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <489F7A22.8040007@HorneSystemsTx.com>

Joe,

You don't state what material the graphics are on, aluminum, steel, 
painted or powder coat.  Use a heat gun to soften the graphic, then 
slowly peel it off. If residue remains, use goo-gone to get it off. Try 
a small spot to be sure it doesn't affect the finish underneath.

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Joseph Jedwabny:
> Hello,
>
> I have a utility trailer that has the former business owners graphic on it. Does anyone know the best way to remove the graphic? It looks like it is a glue on type of decal. Thanks for any help.
>
> Joe
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From vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 10 20:31:46 2008
From: vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com (Vince Strazzabosco)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:31:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] overspray on rubber parts
In-Reply-To: <000001c8fb23$86c2a730$6500a8c0@g71901fc8f5974>
Message-ID: <420207.25989.qm@web33508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I just finished painting some wheels that have tires on them, and despite my attempts at masking them, there is silver overspray on the sidewalls.  I am going to cover up the edges of the wheels, and expect that acetone (use it in a well ventilated area or outside) will take it off easily.

Hope this helps,

vince


--- On Sun, 8/10/08, stan <stathy at shaw.ca> wrote:

> From: stan <stathy at shaw.ca>
> Subject: [Roadsters] overspray on rubber parts
> To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 2:58 PM
> Hello all, first off I'd like to thank Gary and Greg for
> helping me out
> with my tachometer issue.
> I pulled the tach cable and lubed it up as per their
> recommendations.
> It seems to be working better now but still not 100%.  
> I discovered during this process that the straighter the
> cable is, the
> less it tends to jump at lower
> rpm's.  Almost there.  Thanks guys!
>  
> I'm wondering if anyone out there has tips on what
> products to use to
> clean off overspray on rubber parts.
> My trunk gasket has 10 year old overspray on it and I
> can't seem to get
> it off.  It's not a heavy paint, but a mist.
> Unfortunately it's red and not black :-(
>  
> Somewhere out there I thought there was a coating that you
> can put
> overtop of tires and other rubbers which restores the
> color (almost like a black coating).
>  
> Does anyone have any tips?
>  
> If so I'd greatly appreciate any advice.
>  
> Cheers!
>  
> Stan from Coquitlam (just outside of Vancouver)
> 1969 - 1600
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From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 10 20:40:18 2008
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:40:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Great road trips, OH to VA
In-Reply-To: <ae1f75970808011352k1c1134bo6963736bc0e7ec76@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <190661.41975.qm@web51112.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I have ridden rented motorcycles all over Alaska, the last time was 1200 miles
in 40 hours, 250 on dirt roads.  Made it up past the Arctic circle, but not
enough time available to get all the way up to the Arctic Ocean, alas.
 
I love the natural rides, and there is none better, although Washgton State is
wonderful too.
 
JimG
NJ
2000 1969

--- On Fri, 8/1/08, D Riedel <stamuki at gmail.com> wrote:

From: D Riedel <stamuki at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Great road trips, OH to VA
To: "chalsted" <chalsted at comcast.net>
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 4:52 PM

The Top of the World highway through Fairbanks is supposedly
spectacular.  I don't know about the condition of the road for a
roadster, though.  Did you pass through that way Craig, or did you
take the more southerly route to Anchorage?

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:24 PM, chalsted <chalsted at comcast.net> wrote:
> why not just do an Al-Can highway trip and ferry back down from Ak?  was
> dirt road the last time I did that trip.
> Craig
> Datsun Roadsters mostly...
> http://community.webshots.com/user/672000
>
>



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From graemes at internode.on.net  Sun Aug 10 20:43:27 2008
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:13:27 +0930
Subject: [Roadsters] overspray on rubber parts
In-Reply-To: <000001c8fb23$86c2a730$6500a8c0@g71901fc8f5974>
References: <000001c8fb23$86c2a730$6500a8c0@g71901fc8f5974>
Message-ID: <000001c8fb5c$0a83c530$236fa8c0@desktop>

"I'm wondering if anyone out there has tips on what products to use to clean
off overspray on rubber parts.
My trunk gasket has 10 year old overspray on it and I can't seem to get it
off.  It's not a heavy paint, but a mist.
Unfortunately it's red and not black :-("

Hi Stan,
Try rubbing the rubber with a rag damp with Automotive Paint Thinners.
Keep it clear of the paintwork on the body.
Might take a bit of rubbing to remove it completely.
I think it is preferable to use a bit of elbow grease instead of an
aggressive chemical which may attack the good paint.

From bubwin at mts.net  Sun Aug 10 22:51:13 2008
From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:51:13 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: removing decals
In-Reply-To: <19259675.992361218381256684.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web25-z02>
References: <19259675.992361218381256684.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web25-z02>
Message-ID: <752A9EDC17694CF99C97808F5986911D@ownerPC>

I've used these wheels and they work great!  Depending on the size of the 
decal, it could take a while, but no damage to the paint at all.  Check with 
places that sell graphics, they should know where to get one.

Here's a pic of what it looks like.
http://www.autodetailingsolutions.com/3M-decal-remover.htm

Bob Winslade
1966-1600 Miss
1967-1600 Bender
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From: <mikef at carolina.rr.com>
To: "Joseph Jedwabny" <jedwabny at earthlink.net>
Cc: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: removing decals


> at one of the transportation outfits, they removed the decals on trucks 
> and trailers with a 3M wheel inserted in a drill.  I know that this sounds 
> weird, but check with company that leases trailers for big trucks.
>
>
>> I have a utility trailer that has the former business owners graphic on 
>> it. Does anyone know the best way to remove the graphic? It looks like it 
>> is a glue on type of decal. Thanks for any help.
>>
>> Joe
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From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Sun Aug 10 23:44:24 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 01:44:24 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] overspray AND removing decals
In-Reply-To: <000001c8fb23$86c2a730$6500a8c0@g71901fc8f5974>
Message-ID: <E1KSQCZ-0004A7-SE@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi Stan,
A light rubbing with a product called Goof-Off should do it (Wal-mart and
many, many others). Google Goof-Off (it's made by Valspar). Try a terry
cloth rag. Be careful with getting it on the paint you DON'T want removed,
but it works well, as long as the rubber is in OK shape to begin with and
won't crumble with minor scrubbing. It's not a "paint peeler" like Jasco,
but it does have some nasty chemicals in it. I've used it to remove latex
paint off of hardwood floors and had NO adverse effects, even with a fairly
hard "scrubbing". We even used to remove carpet adhesive from the nap of
carpet and not had any degradation of the carpet. If it's soft rubber parts,
like spongy trunk lid rubber or the front bow gasket, a new gasket is maybe
in order. Just sayin!

After you're done, wipe well again with a damp (water) rag, to remove any
residue. Let it dry and clean it up with a rubber conditioner. Since you
need it to NOT be sticky, try (again :-) hehehe) a silicone lubricant like
Jig-a-loo. The silicone should have no negative effect on the rubber, unlike
some other dressings, or like a hardcore petroleum based product.

For the decal removal...this also works well. If they're old, dried up vinyl
decals, try to remove as much as you can by hand. Lift from the edge and
pull. All I can tell ya there. Use the Goof-Off as you can and work it from
the edges. The glue WILL dissolve, the paint will not (typically). As all
disclaimers say, test on a small inconspicuous spot first!!  

Matt Smith
If you need further, please check out a book called "How to clean (almost)
anything".


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of stan
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 3:59 PM
To: Datsun Roadster List
Subject: [Roadsters] overspray on rubber parts

Hello all, first off I'd like to thank Gary and Greg for helping me out
with my tachometer issue.
I pulled the tach cable and lubed it up as per their recommendations.
It seems to be working better now but still not 100%.  
I discovered during this process that the straighter the cable is, the
less it tends to jump at lower
rpm's.  Almost there.  Thanks guys!
 
I'm wondering if anyone out there has tips on what products to use to
clean off overspray on rubber parts.
My trunk gasket has 10 year old overspray on it and I can't seem to get
it off.  It's not a heavy paint, but a mist.
Unfortunately it's red and not black :-(
 
Somewhere out there I thought there was a coating that you can put
overtop of tires and other rubbers which restores the
color (almost like a black coating).
 
Does anyone have any tips?
 
If so I'd greatly appreciate any advice.
 
Cheers!
 
Stan from Coquitlam (just outside of Vancouver)
1969 - 1600
________________________________________

From datrock at centurytel.net  Mon Aug 11 07:55:24 2008
From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:55:24 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Pre-BBQ Fun Run
Message-ID: <48A044CC.1060501@centurytel.net>

Here is a link to the album showing some shots taken on our Fun Run we 
took before the BBQ at Bill Neals in Oregon, The drive ended up being 
around 100 miles thru the back roads in the Mid-Willamette Valley, we 
stayed near the foothills of the Cascades which out here means corners. 
The fun run started out with 5 roadsters and ended with 7 and a dime. At 
the BBQ 10 Roadsters were parked on the lawn. We had a good assortment 
of cars, a stock 66 spl, 2-66 sr20de cars, a 67.5 sr20de, a 67 spl, a 68 
spl, a 68 spl stroker, 3-69 srl u20 cars, We had a great time and a big 
thanks to Bill and Karen for hosting the event, hope to more of us there 
next year...Bill

From datrock at centurytel.net  Mon Aug 11 07:57:35 2008
From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:57:35 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Missed the Link
Message-ID: <48A0454F.5030800@centurytel.net>

I forgot something....

http://good-times.webshots.com/album/565304753MZvCQC

From stebharvey at ameritech.net  Mon Aug 11 08:58:53 2008
From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:58:53 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question
Message-ID: <000301c8fbc2$c64cd390$52e67ab0$@net>

Group,

 

I'm asking for input on what is the best system to install in my roadster.
Is a single cd player verses 6 disc type what most people have installed?
I've seen several types of units that provide one cd but have an I-pod input
along with an am/fm radio.

 

Thanks

 

Steve

Milwaukee

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Mon Aug 11 09:36:59 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 08:36:59 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question
In-Reply-To: <000301c8fbc2$c64cd390$52e67ab0$@net>
References: <000301c8fbc2$c64cd390$52e67ab0$@net>
Message-ID: <BAY106-W198F6B7624B3686E0852BEDF710@phx.gbl>

Personally, I have found the AM/FM/IPOD to be the best solution. Put it in the
glove compartment or there are some radios that will fit the console,
depending upon year. Actually, I obtained an old console for my 1970, tarted
it up with Eastwood crinkle paint and let the installer have at, cutting it to
fit as needed. The PO installed a 10 changer in the boot and it took up space
and of course you only have 10 cd's, which also means you have to have
somewhere to store the others.FWIW

Peter



> From: stebharvey at ameritech.net> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date:
Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:58:53 -0700> Subject: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD
Question> > Group,> > > > I'm asking for input on what is the best system to
install in my roadster.> Is a single cd player verses 6 disc type what most
people have installed?> I've seen several types of units that provide one cd
but have an I-pod input> along with an am/fm radio.> > > > Thanks> > > >
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From leehinger at verizon.net  Mon Aug 11 10:00:51 2008
From: leehinger at verizon.net (leehinger at verizon.net)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:00:51 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question
Message-ID: <17913877.14576021218470451335.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost>

I am using this in my 70 240z with an IPOD - uses either mp3 player or
memory stick.  Adjustable knobs so no dash cutting.
Lee Ehinger

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:36 AM, peter harrison wrote:

> Personally, I have found the AM/FM/IPOD to be the best solution. Put
> it in the
glove compartment or there are some radios that will fit the console,
depending upon year. Actually, I obtained an old console for my 1970,
tarted
it up with Eastwood crinkle paint and let the installer have at, cutting
it to
fit as needed. The PO installed a 10 changer in the boot and it took up
space
and of course you only have 10 cd's, which also means you have to have
somewhere to store the others.FWIW

Peter


> From: stebharvey at ameritech.net <mailto:stebharvey at ameritech.net> B 
> <mailto:stebharvey at ameritech.net> > To:
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> <mailto:datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> B 
> <mailto:datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> > Date:
Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:58:53 -0700> Subject: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD
Question> > Group,> > > > I'm asking for input on what is the best
system to
install in my roadster.> Is a single cd player verses 6 disc type what
most
people have installed?> I've seen several types of units that provide
one cd
but have an I-pod input> along with an am/fm radio.> > > > Thanks> > > >
Steve> > Milwaukee> ________________________________________> Support
Team.Net

From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com  Mon Aug 11 10:06:39 2008
From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:06:39 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question
In-Reply-To: <000301c8fbc2$c64cd390$52e67ab0$@net>
Message-ID: <C4C5B19F.DD7E%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>

FWIW, my favorite Roadster "stereo" (other than the stock Toshiba AM radio,
of course) is a well tuned exhaust system.  ;-)

-Greg 
SRL31100494


On 8/11/08 7:58 AM, "Steve Harvey" <stebharvey at ameritech.net> wrote:

> Group,
> 
>  
> 
> I'm asking for input on what is the best system to install in my roadster.
> Is a single cd player verses 6 disc type what most people have installed?
> I've seen several types of units that provide one cd but have an I-pod input
> along with an am/fm radio.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks
> 
>  
> 
> Steve
> 
> Milwaukee
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From sandhoff at csus.edu  Mon Aug 11 10:33:47 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:33:47 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Can you help diagnose a brake problem?
In-Reply-To: <489CD2E8.7090909@seattle-attorney.com>
Message-ID: <48A0077B.4456.45D2C1@localhost>

> I *gingerly* apply the brake on a slight incline.  It does NOT hold.
> There was never a "give" or a sign that any weld or repair gave way.
> IMMEDIATELY after attempting to set the brake, the rhythmic scraping
> returns!

The parking brake setup is really pretty simple. A cable, an adjuster, a
pivot point and a couple of solid rods...

Since you get the scraping upon application, I'm 'assuming' the linkages
are all working. So here's some things that are potentials:

First, I'm assuming the parts are correct. If the shoes are incorrect
(Roadster shoes last I checked were NLA - hint: 510 shoes work), the
pawl that mechanically applies them may not be properly aligned or
even connected...

The rear adjusters are manual - that is, no 'back up 20 times and the
brakes auto-adjust'! This is a foreign concept to youngsters :-) The
shoes MUST be properly adjusted for the parking brake to work!
If they aren't the rear brakes aren't working, but you probably wouldn't
notice 'cause the fronts do almost all the work anyway. So, make sure
those shoes are properly adjusted in the first place (jack the rear end,
in neutral, turn the wheel and have someone gently apply brakes. You'll
see if and when the brakes activate).

After the shoes are dialed in, the parking brake, if the pieces are
all there and working, are an adjustment away. There's a turnbuckle
down there. With the handle down, it gets tightened to just before
it starts applying tension to the assembly.

If you scrape after release, it sounds like you're missing the retract
springs. There's one at each wheen cylinder, between a clamped-on
hook on the activation rod and a hook on the brake backing plate.
It pulls the activation rod towards the cylinder. If this spring is loose
or missing the parking brake won't fully release.

Truth be told, sounds like you need another brake shop to take a look.
This system is simple, but historical. Old timers, or thoroughly trained
youngsters, will have no problem understanding it.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From steve at olsonarchitect.com  Mon Aug 11 10:34:37 2008
From: steve at olsonarchitect.com (Stephen Wan)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:34:37 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] overspray AND removing decals
References: <E1KSQCZ-0004A7-SE@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <16ec01c8fbd0$25d0cf30$7200a8c0@Stephen>

SEM Solve
http://www.vinylpro.com/product/3837

It's probably not safe for paints long term, but I've just wipe it off 
immediately and have not seen any discoloring of any paint. You'll still 
have to peel the sticker, but it will dissolve the adhesive.
It also easily removes overspray before it has fully cured.

Steve
70' 1600 

From printner at att.net  Mon Aug 11 10:49:53 2008
From: printner at att.net (Tim Waltz)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:49:53 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question
In-Reply-To: <000301c8fbc2$c64cd390$52e67ab0$@net>
References: <000301c8fbc2$c64cd390$52e67ab0$@net>
Message-ID: <022e01c8fbd2$473097d0$d591c770$@net>

Does anyone have a source to convert a stock roadster radio with new digital
guts?

Tim


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+printner=att.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+printner=att.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Steve Harvey
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 8:59 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question

Group,

 

I'm asking for input on what is the best system to install in my roadster.
Is a single cd player verses 6 disc type what most people have installed?
I've seen several types of units that provide one cd but have an I-pod input
along with an am/fm radio.

From nicole at irmforestry.com  Mon Aug 11 12:08:58 2008
From: nicole at irmforestry.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?marc barnes=20?=)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:08:58 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Automated Reply from marc barnes
 <nicole@irmforestry.com>?=
Message-ID: <200808111808.m7BI8wRF010445@blue88.secure-access.net>

I will be out of the office starting Monday, August 11 and will return on Monday, August 25th.
If you are in need of immediate assistance, please contact my office manager, Kathy, at 541-929-3408.
Thanks!

From racery at comcast.net  Mon Aug 11 12:13:58 2008
From: racery at comcast.net (racery at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:13:58 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Removing paint from rubber
Message-ID: <081120081813.22447.48A08166000E8F39000057AF2209224627979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net>

It doesn't always work, but often
a scotch- brite pad will remove a mist.
The paint needs to be less flexible than
the rubber for it to be effective...

hth.
Toby

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Mon Aug 11 13:03:26 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:03:26 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question
In-Reply-To: <000301c8fbc2$c64cd390$52e67ab0$@net>
Message-ID: <E1KScfo-0000s3-T7@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Steve,
Sony has come out with the Xplod GTX- GT620 which incorporates iPod control.
It also has a one CD capability. I have recently purchased a GTX-GT520
(because I like the blue lights!) It has RCA pre-amp outs and RCA component
in. I have this attached to my Harmon Kardon Drive & Play. (iPod
attachment). The HK provides it's own screen, which I have mounted on a
spring loaded hinge under the dash, so I can flip it up and make it
invisible to anyone walking by my open car. Another Lister has mounted the
screen where the clock goes (late model) and it is a VERY cool looking
install. My iPod and the HK control unit are mounted up under the dash on
the firewall behind the glove box. My stereo is mounted up under the dash as
well, but you have to lean over into the passenger seat to see it because
it's up and back (again, so folk's can't see it). I'm using a Sony RM-X11M
wired marine stereo controller. Once the pre-sets on the stereo are set, I
don't have to see the face of the stereo to choose what I want to hear. I
use a wired controller because Infrared won't work the way I have my setup
(you need line of sight to the head unit from the controller). With the
controller, I can choose my iPod or my FM (all I use). I can control the
stereo with the Sony controller, and I can control the iPod with the HK
controller. They are both mounted in the "well" in the trans tunnel where
the cig lighter and ashtray go. I don't have a center console between the
seats. These are both covered by a vinyl covered metal box I made that's
about 1" x 4" x 7" and mounted on another spring loaded hinge. When parked,
even with the top down, you'd never know I had 450 watts of stereo and an
iPod in my car. 
Matt Smith (had way too much time on my hands last winter!)

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Steve Harvey
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:59 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question

Group,

 

I'm asking for input on what is the best system to install in my roadster.
Is a single cd player verses 6 disc type what most people have installed?
I've seen several types of units that provide one cd but have an I-pod input
along with an am/fm radio.

 

Thanks

 

Steve

Milwaukee
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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Mon Aug 11 16:12:17 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:12:17 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but Datsun related
Message-ID: <000001c8fbff$52bb0680$f8311380$@net>

  Bernie is a fellow crew member with Sloan Racing; twin Datsun 1600
roadsters.  He has been with us for almost 8 years now.  Next weekend he is
having a fund raiser for Muscular Dystrophy, a disease that he has.  He
watched it kill his older brother and is now watching his younger brother
with early symptoms.  I'll be at Nelson Ledges working the booth, selling
raffle tickets, and anything else I can do to support his efforts all
weekend.  Below is Bernie's letter asking for support.  His address, email
address and phone numbers are below.  Stop out at the track if you can.
Your donations will be appreciated.

 

Thank you,

Paul Kort

Ohio

 

Muscular Dystrophy                   

Fund Raiser 

 

Dear Potential Sponsor, 

   My name Bernard (Bernie) Schneider and I have Becker Muscular Dystrophy.
I am writing you because I am doing a Fund Raiser for the Muscular Dystrophy
Association at Nelson Ledges Road Course, on August 23-24, 2008, and would
like your company or you to consider supporting my Fund Raiser, but first,
let me tell you a little about  myself.

      As I said before I have Becker Muscular Dystrophy. I was diagnosed
with it in 1978. Over the years the disease has weakened the muscles in my
legs to the point that I am not able to walk any more. I have to ride in a
wheelchair or scooter all the time, but I do not let that keep me from doing
things I like to do. One of the things I like is auto racing and working on
cars. I am on several race teams pit-crews and also do woodworking. Last
year I was named Mechanic of the Year in the Kryder Racing Series at the
Nelson Ledges Race Course where we race and one of the drivers was Champion
of their class (G- Production ) .  Enough about me. 

      Now let me tell you what I would like from you. As I stated earlier in
my letter, I am doing a Fund Raiser for MDA and would like your help. I am
asking for a donation of whatever you would like to donate (water, food,
money, etc). The Fund Raiser will take place at the 24-hour auto race at
Nelson Ledges Road Course on August 23-24, 2008. The race will start at
12:00 PM (Noon) Saturday and end 12:00 PM (Noon) Sunday afternoon. There
will also be practice, qualifying, and a night practice on Friday.  We will
have a booth set up with a racecar in it,  that you can have your picture
taken in. We will also have a 50/50 drawing during the race, we may do laps
around the race- course on, Friday night at 5:00 PM to 6:00 PM and Saturday
at 9: 00 AM  (Subject to change as time allows), in your own car and also we
are asking each team to donate an amount of money per lap that they complete
in the race. We are hoping each team will try to raise more money than the
other, and have a race with in the race.  I hope I can count on your
support.

    You can contact me at (330) 484-3827 or cell (330) 412-1518 or E- mail (
unclbobo at msn.com ). 

      Yours Truly,           

     

       Bernard P. Schneider

       4604 Ridge Ave SE

        Canton, Ohio 44707-1120                           

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Mon Aug 11 16:12:17 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:12:17 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question
In-Reply-To: <000301c8fbc2$c64cd390$52e67ab0$@net>
References: <000301c8fbc2$c64cd390$52e67ab0$@net>
Message-ID: <000501c8fbff$55c1dde0$014599a0$@net>

  Personally, I like the sound of a glass pack and the stock megaphone tip
at about 4200 rpms!

Paul
Ohio

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters- 
Group, 

I'm asking for input on what is the best system to install in my roadster.
Is a single cd player verses 6 disc type what most people have installed?
I've seen several types of units that provide one cd but have an I-pod input
along with an am/fm radio.

 Thanks

Steve

From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com  Mon Aug 11 16:19:18 2008
From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:19:18 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question
In-Reply-To: <000501c8fbff$55c1dde0$014599a0$@net>
Message-ID: <C4C608F6.DDBE%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>

When I ran with two glass packs two things always happened, car alarms went
off and mothers and their kids got scared. Honest...it happened all the
time.

-Greg



On 8/11/08 3:12 PM, "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote:

>   Personally, I like the sound of a glass pack and the stock megaphone tip
> at about 4200 rpms!
> 
> Paul
> Ohio
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-
> Group, 
> 
> I'm asking for input on what is the best system to install in my roadster.
> Is a single cd player verses 6 disc type what most people have installed?
> I've seen several types of units that provide one cd but have an I-pod input
> along with an am/fm radio.
> 
>  Thanks
> 
> Steve
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From RWM at RWMann.com  Mon Aug 11 17:38:11 2008
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM (Out of the Office))
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:38:11 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question
In-Reply-To: <000501c8fbff$55c1dde0$014599a0$@net>
References: <000301c8fbc2$c64cd390$52e67ab0$@net>
	<000501c8fbff$55c1dde0$014599a0$@net>
Message-ID: <48A0CD63.4030807@RWMann.com>

Fronted by the Solex chorus above 3000....

- Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex




Paul wrote:

>  Personally, I like the sound of a glass pack and the stock megaphone tip
>at about 4200 rpms!
>
>Paul
>Ohio
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net
>[mailto:datsun-roadsters- 
>Group, 
>
>I'm asking for input on what is the best system to install in my roadster.
>Is a single cd player verses 6 disc type what most people have installed?
>I've seen several types of units that provide one cd but have an I-pod input
>along with an am/fm radio.
>
> Thanks
>
>Steve

From wilhouse at charter.net  Mon Aug 11 18:11:46 2008
From: wilhouse at charter.net (Ken & Tammy Williams)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:11:46 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun sighting
Message-ID: <DF72C68720EB48E5A8B129EB7BD74183@wilhouse>

Hello Listers,
I was working at the Breast Cancer 3-Day walk this weekend in Chicago helping
walkers cross busy intersections, and saw a red high windshield roadster
downtown on Sunday.  I was the loud fool standing on the corner braving
Chicago drivers armed only with an orange flag.  Anybody on the list?
Ken
'67 1600
Janesville, WI

From joek at camberconstruction.com  Mon Aug 11 18:53:54 2008
From: joek at camberconstruction.com (Joe Kinstle)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:53:54 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question
In-Reply-To: <022e01c8fbd2$473097d0$d591c770$@net>
References: <000301c8fbc2$c64cd390$52e67ab0$@net>
	<022e01c8fbd2$473097d0$d591c770$@net>
Message-ID: <D1A893DE9E1C4FA988CC555F10D8FF85@lapjoek>

I talked to these guys a few years back, they said they could do it to my
'68 radio, which is really stubby, but I never followed through.  I think
the cost was like $400 iirc

http://www.radiosforoldcars.com/ 

Joe Kinstle
'68 2L 
BLK SRL
-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Tim Waltz
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 9:50 AM
To: 'Steve Harvey'; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question

Does anyone have a source to convert a stock roadster radio with new digital
guts?

Tim


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+printner=att.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+printner=att.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Steve Harvey
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 8:59 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question

Group,

 

I'm asking for input on what is the best system to install in my roadster.
Is a single cd player verses 6 disc type what most people have installed?
I've seen several types of units that provide one cd but have an I-pod input
along with an am/fm radio.
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Mon Aug 11 19:21:47 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 01:21:47 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question
Message-ID: <081220080121.9410.48A0E5AB000BC943000024C22200735834CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

...and the problem was....????

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Gregory S. Morrison" <gsm at gregorysmorrison.com>
> When I ran with two glass packs two things always happened, car alarms went
> off and mothers and their kids got scared. Honest...it happened all the
> time.
> 
> -Greg
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/11/08 3:12 PM, "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote:
> 
> >   Personally, I like the sound of a glass pack and the stock megaphone tip
> > at about 4200 rpms!
> > 
> > Paul
> > Ohio
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > I've seen several types of units that provide one cd but have an I-pod input
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From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Mon Aug 11 19:12:44 2008
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:12:44 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it???
References: <C4C5B19F.DD7E%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>
Message-ID: <000701c8fc1a$95643220$6415a8c0@garage.local>

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From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Mon Aug 11 19:22:05 2008
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:22:05 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Missed the Link
References: <48A0454F.5030800@centurytel.net>
Message-ID: <000a01c8fc1a$96a38ff0$6415a8c0@garage.local>

saw those photos by the water.  did someone think it was an amphicar 
meeting???

> http://good-times.webshots.com/album/565304753MZvCQC
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From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net  Mon Aug 11 19:33:47 2008
From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:33:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it???
In-Reply-To: <000701c8fc1a$95643220$6415a8c0@garage.local>
Message-ID: <115720.38666.qm@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

A 1991 Nissan Figaro.
   
  See James Doh's write up on roadster design elements:
   
  http://groups.msn.com/badroc/roadsterdesignelements.msnw
   
  Dan Zubkoff
  Houston, TX

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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Mon Aug 11 19:38:11 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:38:11 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it???
In-Reply-To: <000701c8fc1a$95643220$6415a8c0@garage.local>
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  I wanted to guess a Glas Goggomobil, but I'm not sure.

Paul
Ohio

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From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:55:30 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it???
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is that the car that sarah uses on the sarah conner cronicles(sp.?)?
     bob smith
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From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com  Mon Aug 11 20:58:18 2008
From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Morrison)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:58:18 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question
Message-ID: <200808111958.AA1781072016@mail.gregorysmorrison.com>

No problems here - it was a blast, literally!

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date:  Tue, 12 Aug 2008 01:21:47 +0000

>...and the problem was....????
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>From: "Gregory S. Morrison" <gsm at gregorysmorrison.com>
>> When I ran with two glass packs two things always happened, car alarms went
>> off and mothers and their kids got scared. Honest...it happened all the
>> time.
>> 
>> -Greg
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/11/08 3:12 PM, "Paul" <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote:
>> 
>> >   Personally, I like the sound of a glass pack and the stock megaphone tip
>> > at about 4200 rpms!
>> > 
>> > Paul
>> > Ohio
>> > 
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>> > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-
>> > Group, 
>> > 
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>> > Is a single cd player verses 6 disc type what most people have installed?
>> > I've seen several types of units that provide one cd but have an I-pod input
>> > along with an am/fm radio.
>> > 
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From egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us  Mon Aug 11 21:31:06 2008
From: egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us (Eric Gillis)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:31:06 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it???
References: <C4C5B19F.DD7E%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>
	<000701c8fc1a$95643220$6415a8c0@garage.local>
Message-ID: <65AA4A74232FF24E9BEC8D1163859B1804452404@cusdmx01.cusd.ceres.k12.ca.us>

Figaro, figaro, figaro, figaro.  (Sorry I was thinking of the Bugs Bunny
cartoon with the opera singer) Nissan, JDM maybe only made a couple of years
(~1999-2000?)  I am sure wiki-pedia will have mucho more.

Really cool fold down top similar to the ragtop sunroof of VW, great (truly,
great) older car styling and visual cues.  When we ran into one at Shasta this
year, I couldn't get enough.

Eric G


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From VulForge at aol.com  Mon Aug 11 22:26:51 2008
From: VulForge at aol.com (VulForge at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:26:51 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Stereo
Message-ID: <c21.2f02be0e.35d26b0b@aol.com>

I went the low-buck route with a vintage cassette AM-FM.  $15 at the  
swap-and-shop.  Fits right in the stock console with no cutting, looks bone  stock 
(and not worth stealing) but with a cassette adaptor plugged into the MP3  on my 
phone I have hundreds of tunes at hand.  Spend your money on the best  
speakers you can afford.
I do run a turbo muffler with the dual-tips, and have great fun setting off  
car alarms as I go by.  It amuses me that those giant SUV's yelp in fear at  
my little car!
 
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From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Tue Aug 12 01:06:06 2008
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (Nathaniel Leeds)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:06:06 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for Denver Area Second Set of Eyes b/f cross
 country trip
Message-ID: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOEEDONNAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>

All,

I'm about to set off on my cross-country (or 1/3 county - Denver - SF)
drive. Very excited, but it occurs to me that I'm not a great mechanic, and
I've done a lot of the work on my car. Although I've worked with people who
are better than me it would be nice to meet up with someone who speaks
roadster to do a final look over.

This is probably a long shot, but is anybody around for a mini-meet, in the
Boulder/Denver area this Wednesday. My '69 SU-U20, some mountains, and a
modest amount of beer.

Nathaniel Leeds
310-592-3353

From tom at datsun2000.com  Tue Aug 12 11:52:57 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:52:57 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it???
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGEEHIDFAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

This is a 91 Nissan Figaro.

There are pictures of this car in both Alvin's pictures and my pictures of
the '08 Shasta meet.

You can view these pictures by going to the EVENTS page of
www.datsun2000.com and scrolling down to the Shasta event information.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
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http://www.nowroc.org

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From tom at datsun2000.com  Tue Aug 12 12:20:35 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:20:35 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT; What To Do With Old Airplane Motor
In-Reply-To: <000601c8fbff$57120490$05360db0$@net>
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGAEHKDFAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

Boy, what a picture.  I added it to the Other Stuff page on Datsun2000.com

http://www.datsun2000.com/other_stuff/chopper/

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul [mailto:9laser3 at bright.net]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 3:12 PM
To: 'Tim'; 'Tom Hendricksen'
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] OT; What To Do With Old Airplane Motor


  Never thought you forgot me.  Just figured that life was giving you more to
do!

Tom,  please let me know when the photo is posted and a link to it so I can
let the list know.

Thanks guys,

Paul
Ohio

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim [mailto:tputland at charter.net]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:17 AM
To: Tom Hendricksen
Cc: 9laser3 at bright.net
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] OT; What To Do With Old Airplane Motor

Hi Tom. Here is the link to the web site my wife set up for our Midwest
Roadster Runs:

http://thedatsunroadtrippers.shutterfly.com/

Please let me know if you are unable to view it so we can fix that.

Also, can you host a pic and post the link please? I told Paul I would post it
but am hoping you will. The picture caption was "what to do with an old
airplane motor". I have cc'd Paul so he will know I didn't forget about him.

Thanks!

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- Tom Hendricksen <tom at datsun2000.com> wrote:

=============
Tim,

What is the URL??  It sounds like I need to add it to the Links page on
datsun2000.com

Tom

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Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 3:05 PM
To: Paul; datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT; What To Do With Old Airplane Motor


If no one else will, I can now that we have the Midwest Roadster Roadtrippers
site set up.


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote:

=============
  Need a place to post this photo so anyone interested can see it.
Definitely
a one-of-a-kind bike!

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim [mailto:tputland at charter.net]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 5:42 PM
To: Paul
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT; What To Do With Old Airplane Motor

you can't do attachment. They get removed.
--


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

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=============
  I know itbs not a Datsun, but I doubt there is another bike like this!

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From pete_303 at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 12 12:20:56 2008
From: pete_303 at yahoo.com (matthew peterson)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:20:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Starter Problem Continued
Message-ID: <582724.49904.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Well, I decided to take Greg's advice and at least see what I could get a
rebuilt starter/solenoid for.  I'm glad I did because I got one for $29!  I
was suprised it was so inexpensive.  I think I paid more to get my old one
"fixed" last time.
I pulled the old one last night and put the new one on and
it engaged just like it should.  No more whirring and grinding.  What a
relief.  Problems are never fun but I did learn something new throught this
one.
Thanks everyone for your input and help.
Matt Peterson
'68 1600 (L20b)
Houston, MN



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To: pete_303 at yahoo.com
Sent: Friday, August 1,
2008 3:16:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter Problem Continued


Well, why
not just go get a rebuilt starter????? Why do I say this?  Cause last night I
watched as a bad starter destroyed the teeth on the ring gear on a Ford
Excusion... much more expensive and a thousand times more work to replace the
ring gear than to replace or rebuild the starter... I mean, I understand
wanting to understand how stuff works, but not at the risk of my car... Just
my 2 cents...
Greg Burrows

-- matthew peterson <pete_303 at yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi
all,
Thanks to everyone for all the responses.  I've got a better
understanding of how the bendix works now.
Last night I took the starter off
the engine and engaged it by jumping the two posts on the solenoid.  The first
few times I did it the gear never flung out.  After 5-6 times of doing this it
started to move and eventually it started to fling out right as I jumped the
posts.  So I put it back on and tried it and now it sounds like the bendix
gear is touching the flywheel teeth then backing off.  I hear a slight
grinding/rubbing sound for a split second then it just whirs.  So my question
is, should the bendix gear be spinning full speed the whole time or should it
speed up after it engages the flywheel?  Mine starts spinning very fast before
it flings out.  Could this be the reason it's not engaging the flywheel
teeth?
 It seems to me that if it's spinning that fast that it wouldn't have a
chance
to engage the flywheel and would just grind against the teeth then pull
back.
Any thoughts?
Matt Peterson
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Tue Aug 12 12:25:16 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:25:16 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it???
In-Reply-To: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGEEHIDFAA.tom@datsun2000.com>
References: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGEEHIDFAA.tom@datsun2000.com>
Message-ID: <8CACABFE7034A0C-1B34-232@webmail-nc11.sysops.aol.com>

 I didn't know the Figaro was a 91 vehicle, it looks like it would be a 63 or something. Very interesting that Nissan would produce a "classic" looking vehicle and yet not bring back the Roadster. Does the Figaro engine fit in the Roadster?
Linda


 


 

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Sent: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:52 am
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This is a 91 Nissan Figaro.

There are pictures of this car in both Alvin's pictures and my pictures of
the '08 Shasta meet.

You can view these pictures by going to the EVENTS page of
www.datsun2000.com and scrolling down to the Shasta event information.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
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http://www.nowroc.org

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From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov  Tue Aug 12 12:38:03 2008
From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03))
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:38:03 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it???
In-Reply-To: <8CACABFE7034A0C-1B34-232@webmail-nc11.sysops.aol.com>
References: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGEEHIDFAA.tom@datsun2000.com>
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The Figaro is a cool car.  It has a 987 turbo motor - front drive.

I wish Nissan would put it back into production and sell in the US. It
would be a fun economical car - much better looking then the VW bug.

All you want know and more....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Figaro

Phil
SEROC


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Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it???


 I didn't know the Figaro was a 91 vehicle, it looks like it would be a
63 or something. Very interesting that Nissan would produce a "classic"
looking vehicle and yet not bring back the Roadster. Does the Figaro
engine fit in the Roadster?
Linda







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To: Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>;
sumton at sbcglobal.net
Sent: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:52 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it???










This is a 91 Nissan Figaro.

There are pictures of this car in both Alvin's pictures and my pictures
of the '08 Shasta meet.

You can view these pictures by going to the EVENTS page of
www.datsun2000.com and scrolling down to the Shasta event information.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

On

From tom at datsun2000.com  Tue Aug 12 14:28:52 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:28:52 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] BBQ / Wine Tasting Pictures
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGIEHKDFAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

More pictures of the BBQ / Wine Tasting / Fun Run hosted by Bill and Karen
Neal.

http://www.nowroc.org/events/shed_08.htm

This was a great day to enjoy roadsters.  One exciting moment came when a
dog sauntered (and never flinched) into the road as roasters whizzed by in
front and behind at about 50 or so.  I will long remember looking into my
rear view mirror to see Michael Spreadbury with a big grin on his face and
his hand high in the air after I missed the dog and he didn't have to worry
about dodging whatever.

Mr. Hyde decided to give me a couple of problems from bad threads on the
alternator case, to tossing a smog plug from the head.  The first was cured
with a longer bolt and nut, the second sounded something akin to a jack
hammer at work under the hood, and was corrected out of Bill Cole's spare
parts bin.  This same plug had come out a couple of years ago and I
recognized the sound immediately.  With only a couple of miles before the
run ended I drove it on in.  When I replaced the bolt with a correctly
threaded part it was obvious that a PO had used very course thread bolts on
threads that were much finer.  Thanks to Bill all four holes are properly
plugged now and the whistle is gone.  It is amazing how much quieter the U20
is without the whistle.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...

but, a TRUE FRIEND will  be sitting next to you saying, "Damn ... that was
fun!"

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Tue Aug 12 20:14:20 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:14:20 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it???
In-Reply-To: <8CACABFE7034A0C-1B34-232@webmail-nc11.sysops.aol.com>
References: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGEEHIDFAA.tom@datsun2000.com>
	<8CACABFE7034A0C-1B34-232@webmail-nc11.sysops.aol.com>
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"Does the Figaro engine fit in the Roadster?"

At 75 hp, why would you want to? It would take two of those to equal a
good-running Solex U20.

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
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Behalf Of ljordan704 at netscape.net
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:25 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it???

 I didn't know the Figaro was a 91 vehicle, it looks like it would be a 63
or something. Very interesting that Nissan would produce a "classic" looking
vehicle and yet not bring back the Roadster. Does the Figaro engine fit in
the Roadster?
Linda


 


 

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From: Tom @ Datsun2000 <tom at datsun2000.com>
To: Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>;
sumton at sbcglobal.net
Sent: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:52 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it???










This is a 91 Nissan Figaro.

There are pictures of this car in both Alvin's pictures and my pictures of
the '08 Shasta meet.

You can view these pictures by going to the EVENTS page of
www.datsun2000.com and scrolling down to the Shasta event information.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Tue Aug 12 21:03:49 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:03:49 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it???
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References: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGEEHIDFAA.tom@datsun2000.com>
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 75 hp? Nissan's second dumb move.
What were they thinking?
Linda


-----Original Message-----
From: Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
To: ljordan704 at netscape.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 7:14 pm
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it???










"Does the Figaro engine fit in the Roadster?"

At 75 hp, why would you want to? It would take two of those to equal a
good-running Solex U20.

Gordon Glasgow

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:25 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it???

 I didn't know the Figaro was a 91 vehicle, it looks like it would be a 63
or something. Very interesting that Nissan would produce a "classic" looking
vehicle and yet not bring back the Roadster. Does the Figaro engine fit in
the Roadster?
Linda


 


 

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sumton at sbcglobal.net
Sent: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:52 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it???










This is a 91 Nissan Figaro.

There are pictures of this car in both Alvin's pictures and my pictures of
the '08 Shasta meet.

You can view these pictures by going to the EVENTS page of
www.datsun2000.com and scrolling down to the Shasta event information.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
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From haabu at sbcglobal.net  Tue Aug 12 21:39:01 2008
From: haabu at sbcglobal.net (Herb Petty)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:39:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Figaro
Message-ID: <993873.49006.qm@web81806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Re   Figaro
   
  Don't sell the Figaro short folks.    It has power everything,  it even has a Turbo.  (  Not toooo shaby.
  The owner  Mr. Tadaoke  Anzia    Is a good friend of mine.   Try it you might like it !!
   
   
  Herb Petty
  Modesto, Ca.

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Aug 12 22:20:34 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:20:34 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Lambo Roadster... (not a dime)
Message-ID: <081320080420.6793.48A261120002D75D00001A892209224627CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Stay away kids! That roadster bites!

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Cody Mould" <codymould at comcast.net>
> What the hell did they do to the bumpers!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
> To: "Bluebirds" <bluebirds at bluebirds.datsun510.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:56 PM
> Subject: Re: Lambo Roadster... (not a dime)
> 
> 
> > Yeah, but doesn't it look kewl when parked? <g>
> >
> > Pete "what's next? gullwing doors?"
> >
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: Wolf Dilworth <bd5wingnut at yahoo.com>
> >>     Thankfully that is not a dime in the background, it is prolly a 620 
> >> or
> >> some-such truck, the wheel has six lugs, thankfully.  My condolences to 
> >> the
> >> truck community among us.
> >>
> >> As for those F-ing doors, I hate those things from a practicality point. 
> >> The
> >> damn door panel is right where you need to swing your head when exiting 
> >> the car,
> >> so you have to do this funny twist, placing both legs perpendicular to 
> >> the car
> >> before standing up...  Duuuumb!
> >>
> >> Peace, Wolf
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Tue, 8/12/08, bre66 at windstream.net <bre66 at windstream.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> From: bre66 at windstream.net <bre66 at windstream.net>
> >> Subject: Re: Lambo Roadster...
> >> To: "Kelvin Dietz" <kelvin at datsuns.com>, "Bluebird List"
> >> <bluebirds at bluebirds.datsun510.com>
> >> Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 3:53 PM
> >>
> >> WoW. That's a Kool Kar, alright.
> >>
> >> Say, did you get a gander at what looks to be a red 510 just  two cars 
> >> down
> >> from it ... that has .. ( gads! ) ... louvers on the
> >> fenders??!
> >>
> >> ... now .. That's a neat idea.
> >>
> >> Keith
> >>
> >> >
> >> > From: Kelvin Dietz <kelvin at datsuns.com>
> >> > Date: 2008/08/12 Tue PM 05:37:35 CDT
> >> > To: Bluebird List <bluebirds at bluebirds.datsun510.com>
> >> > Subject: Lambo Roadster...
> >> >
> >> > It just ain't right.
> >> >
> >> > http://www.bleachgarage.com/images/event/bluelake08/bl100_7558.jpg
> >> >
> >> > All that work. All that skill.  Shame it wasn't tempered with a bit of
> >>
> >> > taste...
> >> >
> >> > At least that's my take.  I could be wrong.
> >> >
> >> > Wait.... No.  Never mind.
> >> >
> >> > Kelvin

From mkall at q-marketing.com  Wed Aug 13 07:20:23 2008
From: mkall at q-marketing.com (Matt  Kall)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:20:23 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] still looking for a good 69 2000 grile
Message-ID: <ODEMLOGKJCGHMNFMKEFBCEFLKGAA.mkall@q-marketing.com>

I have a  very good condition 1600 grill to swap for a 2000 for a 69. or buy
the 2L grille outright and sell the 1600 grill on my own.

let me know if you have one.

Matt

From Walter.Peterson at cox.net  Wed Aug 13 08:45:18 2008
From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter Peterson)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:45:18 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Free (gently used)  early 67 1600 rear brake drums,
 backing  plates & related hardware.
In-Reply-To: <000301c8fa82$1b4a8460$236fa8c0@desktop>
References: <c08.429d3814.35cf5ca9@aol.com>
	<000301c8fa82$1b4a8460$236fa8c0@desktop>
Message-ID: <000c01c8fd53$35cd50a0$a167f1e0$@Peterson@cox.net>

I just took the drums down to my parts house to have them measured. It seems
the EOL Spec is 9.000" and these have .050" & .040" left on them.  They look
usable as is, no scoring at all.  These became available after I upgraded to
a pair of Cinder blocks and a chain; & then to a drag parachute which works
much better at higher speeds.  The bricks were problematic when they catch
up to you or they change lanes when in operation.

The related hardware includes levers & lots of little bolts, etc.  I'll look
around for the parking brake rods if you need them.

Anyhow free parts, you pay shipping.


Walter Peterson
Goleta Ca, 93117

From ktmaustin at sbcglobal.net  Wed Aug 13 09:38:41 2008
From: ktmaustin at sbcglobal.net (Kevin McDonald)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:38:41 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it???
References: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGEEHIDFAA.tom@datsun2000.com><8CACABFE7034A0C-1B34-232@webmail-nc11.sysops.aol.com>
	<85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76D8FE9F@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <003e01c8fd5a$aa916b40$82531e0a@ktmlt2>

The same engine family is used in the Nissan March:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_Superturbo_R
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_MA_engine
I saw some of these cars in Mazatlan Mexico a year ago.
They looked way too small for the American market until...
Kevin

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Figaro

From CBrucciani at archinsurance.com  Wed Aug 13 12:39:58 2008
From: CBrucciani at archinsurance.com (Brucciani, Chris)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:39:58 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 1967 Bluebird FS in Atlanta
Message-ID: <4E47814C897249439B399307D555B45B016F8EFB@nwkexch04.corp.archcapservices.com>

I have no info on this car but stumbled across in on Craigslist.

1967 Datsun Bluebird 411 4 door. Complete all original 77,000 miles. Not
very must rust. Rare car. Good shape. Serious Inquiries only!!!! Best
Offer

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/cto/793716554.html

Chris Brucciani
1973 240Z
1995 Miata



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From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Wed Aug 13 13:33:18 2008
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:33:18 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Lambo Roadster...
Message-ID: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755DEB3E22@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>

Well, I can't say that I am surprised, as this is all the rage, and done
on all sorts of cars, whether tasteful or not.  Pimped out purple
/orange Dodge Neon with Lambo doors comes to mind.

The thing is, looking at this roadster, if they welded the tops of the
doors shut, why did they leave the wing windows on?  To support those
doors on a hinge like that must mean there is some sort of bracing in
under the dash/cowl, so why not remove the wing windows as well.
As someone said, getting in with these is smooth glide, but getting out,
argghh.  Would have made more sense to do suicide doors, (and remove the
wing windows) if "sense" is applicable at all.

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Aug 13 18:07:55 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 00:07:55 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it???
Message-ID: <081420080007.24227.48A3775B000E9F9100005EA32200750330CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Interesting. I remember someone on the list from Canada used a fusebox from a Micra when rewiring their roadster.

I wonder why the March/Micra isn't in the US-market, especially now.

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Kevin McDonald" <ktmaustin at sbcglobal.net>
> The same engine family is used in the Nissan March:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_Superturbo_R
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_MA_engine
> I saw some of these cars in Mazatlan Mexico a year ago.
> They looked way too small for the American market until...
> Kevin
> 
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Figaro
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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Wed Aug 13 19:24:44 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:24:44 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] ] 1967 Bluebird FS in Atlanta
In-Reply-To: <4E47814C897249439B399307D555B45B016F8EFB@nwkexch04.corp.archcapservices.com>
References: <4E47814C897249439B399307D555B45B016F8EFB@nwkexch04.corp.archcapservices.com>
Message-ID: <004001c8fdac$89fbec50$9df3c4f0$@net>

  I asked about the car and got the reply below.
Paul
Ohio

"1299cc 4 speed Some rust but not bad. Needs to be towed. I will be honest I
am a little nego on this car and it needs to go. If you are serious I will
get you a pic.'




-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters- 
I have no info on this car but stumbled across in on Craigslist.

1967 Datsun Bluebird 411 4 door. Complete all original 77,000 miles. Not
very must rust. Rare car. Good shape. Serious Inquiries only!!!! Best
Offer

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/cto/793716554.html

Chris Brucciani

From aultgc at att.net  Wed Aug 13 20:27:23 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:27:23 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it???
References: <081420080007.24227.48A3775B000E9F9100005EA32200750330CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <00a701c8fdb5$49b75a40$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

Probably doesn't meet US emissions or safety (crush, bumper height, ...) 
standards.

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it???


> Interesting. I remember someone on the list from Canada used a fusebox 
> from a Micra when rewiring their roadster.
>
> I wonder why the March/Micra isn't in the US-market, especially now.
>
> Pete
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Kevin McDonald" <ktmaustin at sbcglobal.net>
>> The same engine family is used in the Nissan March:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_Superturbo_R
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_MA_engine
>> I saw some of these cars in Mazatlan Mexico a year ago.
>> They looked way too small for the American market until...
>> Kevin
>>
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Figaro
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From haabu at sbcglobal.net  Wed Aug 13 21:24:13 2008
From: haabu at sbcglobal.net (Herb Petty)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:24:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1991 Figaro
Message-ID: <707182.56371.qm@web81801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Folks,
  The 1991 Figaro ( Small Japanese Car ) that was at Mt Shasta this past July,
  belongs to my friend Mr. Tadaoki Anzai.  He lives in Victoria B.C. Vancouver Island.
  The vehicle was imported in I think  Febuary of this year.  My friend told me the vehicle,
  had to pass ( 2 ) stringent inspections, plus alot of paper work.    This car is small, but it's loaded , it even has a Turbo.  Leather interior, & full power, including windows. & auto
  trans.     Mr Anzai is a true diehard Nissan / Datsun fan.   He also has a 1969 2.Ll solex in Victoria  ( it's beautiful )  it also has a new set of Everwing fog lamps. ( I'm jealous )
  Have a nice drive in this beautiful weather,
   
  Herb Petty
  Modesto, Ca.

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Aug 13 22:22:32 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:22:32 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it???
Message-ID: <081420080422.23415.48A3B308000428AE00005B772206999735CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Details....mere details.... <g>

Pete "darn that NHSTA!"

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" <aultgc at att.net>
> Probably doesn't meet US emissions or safety (crush, bumper height, ...) 
> standards.
> 
> Gary
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>
> To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it???
> 
> 
> > Interesting. I remember someone on the list from Canada used a fusebox 
> > from a Micra when rewiring their roadster.
> >
> > I wonder why the March/Micra isn't in the US-market, especially now.
> >
> > Pete
> >
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: "Kevin McDonald" <ktmaustin at sbcglobal.net>
> >> The same engine family is used in the Nissan March:
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_Superturbo_R
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_MA_engine
> >> I saw some of these cars in Mazatlan Mexico a year ago.
> >> They looked way too small for the American market until...
> >> Kevin
> >>
> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Figaro
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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Thu Aug 14 14:12:28 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:12:28 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 69 1600 FS inOhio
Message-ID: <001d01c8fe4a$14764770$3d62d650$@net>

http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/776541676.html

 

  Not mine (if it was, I won't be selling it!), and I have connection to the
car or seller (Or at least I don't remember?)  It may be an OROC car, but
that was too many years ago for me to remember.

 

Paul

Ohio

From matt at vander-bend.com  Thu Aug 14 14:22:12 2008
From: matt at vander-bend.com (Matt Jacquet)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:22:12 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] SJ Ca sighting
Message-ID: <KEEFKEBLFKHNFLLGFNOGOEGBCGAA.matt@vander-bend.com>

8/13 630pm Red 70, 1600 nice original survivor

public parking off Lincoln Ave in Willow Glen.

Matt

From mantolik at oh.rr.com  Thu Aug 14 15:27:43 2008
From: mantolik at oh.rr.com (Mark Antolik)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:27:43 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 69 1600 FS inOhio
In-Reply-To: <001d01c8fe4a$14764770$3d62d650$@net>
References: <001d01c8fe4a$14764770$3d62d650$@net>
Message-ID: <002f01c8fe54$96d1f7f0$0a01a8c0@marka64>

 Hi Paul - That looks a lot! Like the one Brian had for sale....the 1600
with a 2L and the color is what I remember.....

Mark 
Ohio (also)

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:12 PM
To: 'datsun-roadsters'
Subject: [Roadsters] 69 1600 FS inOhio

http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/776541676.html

 

  Not mine (if it was, I won't be selling it!), and I have connection to the
car or seller (Or at least I don't remember?)  It may be an OROC car, but
that was too many years ago for me to remember.

 

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Ohio
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From aultgc at att.net  Thu Aug 14 20:04:30 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:04:30 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires
Message-ID: <006101c8fe7b$41c45ec0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

Has anyone recently purchased a compact spare tire for use on their roadster?
I want to buy one for my car, but I want to make sure I get a wheel which will
not interfere with the brake lines on the front, if needed there.

Anyone?

Gary Ault

From geegc at aol.com  Thu Aug 14 22:35:31 2008
From: geegc at aol.com (geegc at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:35:31 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires
In-Reply-To: <006101c8fe7b$41c45ec0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
References: <006101c8fe7b$41c45ec0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <8CACCA77C79D71F-1420-661@WEBMAIL-DC16.sysops.aol.com>

I found that the bolt pattern is easy to match but that the size of the 
hole in most mini spares is too small for the front wheel.  So if you 
get a mini that fits the rear and have a flat in the front you can 
switch the good rear tire to the front and use the mini on the rear.

Gary C

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary and Cindy Ault <aultgc at att.net>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 7:04 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires

Has anyone recently purchased a compact spare tire for use on their 
roadster?
I want to buy one for my car, but I want to make sure I get a wheel 
which will
not interfere with the brake lines on the front, if needed there.

Anyone?

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From sandhoff at csus.edu  Fri Aug 15 11:23:48 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:23:48 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires
In-Reply-To: <8CACCA77C79D71F-1420-661@WEBMAIL-DC16.sysops.aol.com>
References: <006101c8fe7b$41c45ec0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <48A55934.31532.4BC1DC@localhost>

Hmmm, let me dig out my scratched and skipping (i.e. "broken")
record again... :-)

> ..switch the good rear tire to the front and use the mini on the rear.

If you drive any distance with mismatched rear tire diameters, you
risk permanent damage to the differential. So to be safe, a mini has
to still be the same diameter as the other tires you're using.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From boakes at gmail.com  Fri Aug 15 12:42:22 2008
From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes)
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:42:22 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] hardtop
Message-ID: <3ad057d60808151142u7aa067dek75e6b60824d09ea7@mail.gmail.com>

Hi gang,

i'm having to go through a lot of my old Z car parts since losing a
storage garage, kind of a nice "cleansing" experience, i have to
admit.

One of the things taking up a lot of space, still, is the hardtop that
came with my '68 2000, which still hasn't hit the road.

When done (yes, it will be done someday) this will be a weekend
machine, rarely taken out in bad weather, mostly because there just
won't be a need.

The question is; is it worth keeping the hardtop? Will I ever really
use it? I'm thinking not.

I have pix of it at:
http://picasaweb.google.com/boakes/RoadsterHardtop

So, if I don't keep it, how much is it worth? Anyone in the mid-west
(i'm in Chicago's north suburbs) interested??

thanks
-Bill Oakes
Libertyville, IL
'68 2000 Solex

From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Fri Aug 15 13:12:13 2008
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus)
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:12:13 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Mini Spare center hole
Message-ID: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755DEDB7F7@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>

Even the crudest of machine shops should have chucks large enough to
mount a 14" wheel and turn the center hole out to the necessary
diameter, to maintain the proper wheel sizing.  1st gen 300z's had the
same 4 bolt pattern, but so did Euro-styled Ford
Mustangs/Fairmount/Toyota Corollas (called an AE86) correct?

From robbieharrison at comcast.net  Fri Aug 15 13:18:45 2008
From: robbieharrison at comcast.net (Robbie Harrison)
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:18:45 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Subject: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires
References: <006101c8fe7b$41c45ec0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <48A5D695.000009.05444@ROBBIE-PC>

What's the advantage of the compact spare? Can you really fit anything extra
in the tire well in the extra space?

Robbie
68 2000

-------Original Message-------

From: Gary and Cindy Ault
Date: 8/14/2008 10:05:06 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires

Has anyone recently purchased a compact spare tire for use on their
roadster?
I want to buy one for my car, but I want to make sure I get a wheel which
will
not interfere with the brake lines on the front, if needed there.

Anyone?

Gary Ault

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From RWM at RWMann.com  Fri Aug 15 13:22:44 2008
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM (Out of the Office))
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:22:44 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires
In-Reply-To: <48A5D695.000009.05444@ROBBIE-PC>
References: <006101c8fe7b$41c45ec0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
	<48A5D695.000009.05444@ROBBIE-PC>
Message-ID: <48A5D784.7050001@RWMann.com>

They are quite a bit lighter as well as somewhat less bulky.



Robbie Harrison wrote:

>What's the advantage of the compact spare? Can you really fit anything extra
>in the tire well in the extra space?
>
>Robbie
>68 2000
>
>-------Original Message-------
>
>From: Gary and Cindy Ault
>Date: 8/14/2008 10:05:06 PM
>To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>Subject: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires
>
>Has anyone recently purchased a compact spare tire for use on their
>roadster?
>I want to buy one for my car, but I want to make sure I get a wheel which
>will
>not interfere with the brake lines on the front, if needed there.
>
>Anyone?
>
>Gary Ault

From vze2fhba at verizon.net  Fri Aug 15 14:30:25 2008
From: vze2fhba at verizon.net (vze2fhba at verizon.net)
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:30:25 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires
Message-ID: <32469695.809451218832225644.JavaMail.root@vms069.mailsrvcs.net>

Lets you get more wine in the trunk.
Charlie B.
>From: Robbie Harrison <robbieharrison at comcast.net>
>Date: 2008/08/15 Fri PM 02:18:45 CDT
>To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net, Gary and Cindy Ault <aultgc at att.net>
>Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires

>What's the advantage of the compact spare? Can you really fit anything extra
>in the tire well in the extra space?
>
>Robbie
>68 2000
>
>-------Original Message-------
>
>From: Gary and Cindy Ault
>Date: 8/14/2008 10:05:06 PM
>To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>Subject: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires
>
>Has anyone recently purchased a compact spare tire for use on their
>roadster?
>I want to buy one for my car, but I want to make sure I get a wheel which
>will
>not interfere with the brake lines on the front, if needed there.
>
>Anyone?
>
>Gary Ault

From reblues at gmail.com  Fri Aug 15 15:48:07 2008
From: reblues at gmail.com (reblues at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:48:07 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires
References: <006101c8fe7b$41c45ec0$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
	<48A5D695.000009.05444@ROBBIE-PC>
Message-ID: <006601c8ff20$9ade10a0$6601a8c0@ACER4230>

It can make the difference between getting bag in for a trip.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robbie Harrison" <robbieharrison at comcast.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>; "Gary and Cindy Ault" 
<aultgc at att.net>
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires


> What's the advantage of the compact spare? Can you really fit anything 
> extra
> in the tire well in the extra space?
>
> Robbie
> 68 2000
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Gary and Cindy Ault
> Date: 8/14/2008 10:05:06 PM
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires
>
> Has anyone recently purchased a compact spare tire for use on their
> roadster?
> I want to buy one for my car, but I want to make sure I get a wheel which
> will
> not interfere with the brake lines on the front, if needed there.
>
> Anyone?
>
> Gary Ault
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of 
> cat_side_en.gif]
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From fj20spl311 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 15 23:06:26 2008
From: fj20spl311 at yahoo.com (philip erickson)
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:06:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 2, Issue 357
In-Reply-To: <mailman.27.1218823203.23202.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <334362.73398.qm@web31908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

If you drive any distance with mismatched rear tire diameters, you
risk permanent damage to the differential. So to be safe, a mini has
to still be the same diameter as the other tires you're using.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA


Sorry John,
  But that is an OLD WIFE's TALE if you have an OPEN rear axle.
   
  50-100 miles would be not problem, and that's all you should be driving on a mini spare.

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Sat Aug 16 08:10:30 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 10:10:30 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 2, Issue 357
Message-ID: <c1b.3ba5fa2b.35d839d6@aol.com>

I've had several rear diffs apart. The pin that the differential gears run  
on has no bearings. It is a steel pin going through the steel gears. During  
straight driving this is not a problem as these only turn when you are turning.  
When the tire size is mismatched these gears turn all the time. They simply 
were  not designed for this kind of service. Will it toast them in a couple 
miles?  Most likely not. 50 to 100 miles? Don't know. I think the answer is that 
the  diff wasn't designed for this type of service and it is best to avoid it 
if  possible. 
 
The front on the other hand has totally independent bearings and can run  
forever with different size tires. 
 
Check on the availability of diff bits and make your own choice. 
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 8/15/2008 10:07:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
fj20spl311 at yahoo.com writes:

If you  drive any distance with mismatched rear tire diameters, you
risk permanent  damage to the differential. So to be safe, a mini has
to still be the same  diameter as the other tires you're using.

-- John
John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu    Sacramento, CA


Sorry John,
But that is an OLD WIFE's TALE  if you have an OPEN rear axle.

50-100 miles would  be not problem, and that's all you should be driving on a 
mini  spare.
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From gregs672liter at netzero.net  Sat Aug 16 10:50:34 2008
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net)
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:50:34 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires
Message-ID: <20080816.095034.26840.1@webmail06.vgs.untd.com>

First, I have never had a flat in the Roadster (knock on wood).  Second, while
I know it won't fix every problem (major cut on the sidewall for example) and
it does cause problems inside the tire (can unbalance the tire, not an issue
if you clean it out really well after use) I just carry a can of fix-o-flat.
I have handed mine out to other people on the side of the road 3 different
times, and used mine once on a daily driver... no problems, and it got me to a
shop where the tire could be repaired (no problem there either).  It's cheap,
takes little room, and will handle the problem 9 times out of ten.
Greg Burrows

-- "RWM (Out of the Office)" <RWM at RWMann.com> wrote:
They are quite a bit lighter as well as somewhat less bulky.



Robbie Harrison wrote:

>What's the advantage of the compact spare? Can you really fit anything extra
>in the tire well in the extra space?
>
>Robbie
>68 2000
>
>-------Original Message-------
>
>From: Gary and Cindy Ault
>Date: 8/14/2008 10:05:06 PM
>To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>Subject: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires
>
>Has anyone recently purchased a compact spare tire for use on their
>roadster?
>I want to buy one for my car, but I want to make sure I get a wheel which
>will
>not interfere with the brake lines on the front, if needed there.
>
>Anyone?
>
>Gary Ault
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From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net  Sat Aug 16 11:01:05 2008
From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER)
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 10:01:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Steering shaft mod?
Message-ID: <211255.75080.qm@web81004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

   Hello all,
 
   I have a question concerning rerouting of a steering shaft around a #4 carb
of a quad Mikuni flatslide induction. I am out of my comfort zone on this one
and would like some advice. I have plans to cut my original shaft into 3
pieces and use 2 additional U-joints and a securing block to angle around the
carb. I understand that the collapsable shaft is to give in on impact so I
wondered if by modifying my steering shaft that the rear shortest of the 3
sections would by any chance fall out while driving. Since I won't have that
direct straight connection I'm afraid I may have to reinforce the rear section
as well to for/aft play. I'm not privy as to how the lower shaft mates with
the column behind the firewall. Are these shafts press fit to some degree? I
would apreciate any input. Tom

From boakes at gmail.com  Sat Aug 16 11:30:20 2008
From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes)
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:30:20 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] the dreaded "extra part"
Message-ID: <3ad057d60808161030u3133c13ahb9ea2091c95d06a9@mail.gmail.com>

Hi gang,

between taking too long to get back started on the re-assembly of my
'68 2000 Solex, and, well, not documenting everything well enough,
I've ended up with the dreaded extra-part-on re-assembly, I'm afraid.

I put the heater box back together, or I thought, with the re-built
heater core and then on the bench I still saw this:

http://picasaweb.google.com/boakes/RoadsterMysteryPart

help?

-bill

From tom at datsun2000.com  Sat Aug 16 11:49:55 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 10:49:55 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] the dreaded "extra part"
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGIEIADFAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

Bill,

This looks like the rectangular ring that holds the molded rubber tubes that
run from the heater box to the windshield vents in the dash for your
defrosters.  The partial rubber part you are showing is part of the now gone
rubber tubes.  The rubber part is sandwiched between the ring and the heater
box.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org


On 8/16/2008 10:30:20 AM, Bill Oakes (boakes at gmail.com) wrote:
> Hi gang,
>
> between taking too long to get back started on the re-assembly of my
> '68 2000 Solex, and, well, not documenting everything well enough,
> I've
> ended up with the dreaded extra-part-on re-assembly, I'm afraid.
>
> I put the heater box back together, or I thought, with the re-built
> heater core and then on the bench I still saw this:
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/boakes/RoadsterMysteryPart
>
> help?
>
> -bill
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From sandhoff at csus.edu  Sat Aug 16 12:07:18 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:07:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] the dreaded "extra part"
In-Reply-To: <3ad057d60808161030u3133c13ahb9ea2091c95d06a9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3ad057d60808161030u3133c13ahb9ea2091c95d06a9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0808161102400.30780@netserv.csus.edu>

> I put the heater box back together, or I thought, with the re-built
> heater core and then on the bench I still saw this:
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/boakes/RoadsterMysteryPart

The box itself is together.
If I'm correct, that rectangle of metal clamps the air duct
to the box. There's a largish Y-shaped rubbery part, some
remnants of which seem to be in your picture, that ducts the
air flow from the box to the defroster ducts in the dash.
When you operate the defroster control, there's a flap that
opens a hole in the box to allow air to flow into this
duct and to the windshield.

The flange on the rubber Y is the 'middle' of the sandwich
of heaterbox-duct-metalplateyouhaveleftover. Four screws
(IIRC) clamp it all together.

I'm sure there's a diagram in the parts catalog.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu  Sacramento, CA

From boakes at gmail.com  Sat Aug 16 13:21:24 2008
From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes)
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 14:21:24 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] the dreaded "extra part"
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0808161102400.30780@netserv.csus.edu>
References: <3ad057d60808161030u3133c13ahb9ea2091c95d06a9@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0808161102400.30780@netserv.csus.edu>
Message-ID: <3ad057d60808161221w6bb1877ay14054cd391f79097@mail.gmail.com>

Yep, thanks to John and Tom, once I put the heater box in for a test
fit it made more sense.

Just got done gluing the dash cap onto the now empty dash - that's
what comes next, putting that all back together.

Once step at a time, one step at a time...



On 8/16/08, John F Sandhoff <sandhoff at csus.edu> wrote:
>
>
> > I put the heater box back together, or I thought, with the re-built
> > heater core and then on the bench I still saw this:
> >
> > http://picasaweb.google.com/boakes/RoadsterMysteryPart
> >
>
>  The box itself is together.
>  If I'm correct, that rectangle of metal clamps the air duct
>  to the box. There's a largish Y-shaped rubbery part, some
>  remnants of which seem to be in your picture, that ducts the
>  air flow from the box to the defroster ducts in the dash.
>  When you operate the defroster control, there's a flap that
>  opens a hole in the box to allow air to flow into this
>  duct and to the windshield.
>
>  The flange on the rubber Y is the 'middle' of the sandwich
>  of heaterbox-duct-metalplateyouhaveleftover. Four screws
>  (IIRC) clamp it all together.
>
>  I'm sure there's a diagram in the parts catalog.
>
>  -- John
>     John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu  Sacramento, CA

From tputland at charter.net  Sat Aug 16 13:55:59 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:55:59 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Midwest Roadster Run
Message-ID: <20080816155559.VO0ZR.129580.root@mp19>

We are planning to do another Midwest Roadster Run in October. We have decided on the weekend of October 10-12. We hope to see great fall colors and drive more of the fun roads in the bluffs in southwestern WI and Northwestern IL. 

Most of the weekend is up in the air and well depend on who can come. The only definite part of the trip is to stay in Savanna, Illinois on Saturday night. Depending on who can come, we may stay there on Friday night as well. if you can only come for part of the weekend, that is fine. 

As of now, Steve Harvey,  myself and our wives are going for sure. We have one other "most likely attending" and a few maybes. 

If you can to attend, please let me or Steve know ASAP so we can plan the hotel booking situation as well as the roads we want to drive.

The last run was great fun the next should be more fun! We had four Roadsters and hope to increase that count!!

Hope to hear from a bunch of you soon!!! Call me if you want: 608-445-9072 is my cell phone. 

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From bubwin at mts.net  Sat Aug 16 16:26:54 2008
From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba)
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:26:54 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 2, Issue 357
In-Reply-To: <c1b.3ba5fa2b.35d839d6@aol.com>
References: <c1b.3ba5fa2b.35d839d6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0A19134D0E7F44B7A24EC08E1347115E@ownerPC>

If you have your rear tires inflated differently, the rolling diameter is 
different, and the spider gears will  rotate.  These spider gears are always 
partially immersed and/or passing through the 80-90 gear lube.  even when 
they are not turning there is tremendous side pressure on them.

Even when they are turning we are not talking hundreds or thousands of RPM, 
and they are tempered steel.  They will hold up.

Bob Winslade
1966-1600 Missy
1967-1600 Bender

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Keith0alan at aol.com>
To: <fj20spl311 at yahoo.com>; <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 2, Issue 357


> I've had several rear diffs apart. The pin that the differential gears run
> on has no bearings. It is a steel pin going through the steel gears. 
> During
> straight driving this is not a problem as these only turn when you are 
> turning.
> When the tire size is mismatched these gears turn all the time. They 
> simply
> were  not designed for this kind of service. Will it toast them in a 
> couple
> miles?  Most likely not. 50 to 100 miles? Don't know. I think the answer 
> is that
> the  diff wasn't designed for this type of service and it is best to avoid 
> it
> if  possible.
>
> The front on the other hand has totally independent bearings and can run
> forever with different size tires.
>
> Check on the availability of diff bits and make your own choice.
>
> keith
>
>
> In a message dated 8/15/2008 10:07:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> fj20spl311 at yahoo.com writes:
>
> If you  drive any distance with mismatched rear tire diameters, you
> risk permanent  damage to the differential. So to be safe, a mini has
> to still be the same  diameter as the other tires you're using.
>
> -- John
> John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu    Sacramento, CA
>
>
> Sorry John,
> But that is an OLD WIFE's TALE  if you have an OPEN rear axle.
>
> 50-100 miles would  be not problem, and that's all you should be driving 
> on a
> mini  spare.
> You are subscribed as  keith0alan at aol.com
>
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 16 22:28:14 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:28:14 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires
In-Reply-To: <32469695.809451218832225644.JavaMail.root@vms069.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <32469695.809451218832225644.JavaMail.root@vms069.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <BAY106-W121EFD2803C5E151D916AFDF6F0@phx.gbl>

one advantage of keeping the standard tire - as I discovered on my x-country
trip (via a tip from a fellow member) is that you can take a standard 5 gallon
bucket, cut it to size - about 5-7 inches depending upon tire and put it under
the spare. This provides space for a whole bunch of things, rags, spark plugs,
gloves, flaresanything bendy or small.

> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:30:25 -0500> From: vze2fhba at verizon.net> To:
robbieharrison at comcast.net; aultgc at att.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires> > Lets you get more wine in the
trunk.> Charlie B.> >From: Robbie Harrison <robbieharrison at comcast.net>>
>Date: 2008/08/15 Fri PM 02:18:45 CDT> >To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net,
Gary and Cindy Ault <aultgc at att.net>> >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compact Spare
tires> > >What's the advantage of the compact spare? Can you really fit
anything extra> >in the tire well in the extra space?> >> >Robbie> >68 2000>
>> >-------Original Message-------> >> >From: Gary and Cindy Ault> >Date:
8/14/2008 10:05:06 PM> >To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> >Subject:
[Roadsters] Compact Spare tires> >> >Has anyone recently purchased a compact
spare tire for use on their> >roadster?> >I want to buy one for my car, but I
want to make sure I get a wheel which> >will> >not interfere with the brake
lines on the front, if needed there.> >> >Anyone?> >> >Gary Ault>
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 16 22:32:58 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:32:58 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] hardtop
In-Reply-To: <3ad057d60808151142u7aa067dek75e6b60824d09ea7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3ad057d60808151142u7aa067dek75e6b60824d09ea7@mail.gmail.com>
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FWIW
Ok, I live in CA and thus for me a hardtop is peripheral. If you live in a
climate where winter really hits and you still dirve the roadster, then
putting it in on November (say) and removing it in April (say) makes sense.
But if you are only a summer driver and rain is the only concern - get rid of
it.
Peter



> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:42:22 -0500> From: boakes at gmail.com> To:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] hardtop> > Hi gang,> >
i'm having to go through a lot of my old Z car parts since losing a> storage
garage, kind of a nice "cleansing" experience, i have to> admit.> > One of the
things taking up a lot of space, still, is the hardtop that> came with my '68
2000, which still hasn't hit the road.> > When done (yes, it will be done
someday) this will be a weekend> machine, rarely taken out in bad weather,
mostly because there just> won't be a need.> > The question is; is it worth
keeping the hardtop? Will I ever really> use it? I'm thinking not.> > I have
pix of it at:> http://picasaweb.google.com/boakes/RoadsterHardtop> > So, if I
don't keep it, how much is it worth? Anyone in the mid-west> (i'm in Chicago's
north suburbs) interested??> > thanks> -Bill Oakes> Libertyville, IL> '68 2000
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From mikefaggart at gmail.com  Sun Aug 17 07:58:02 2008
From: mikefaggart at gmail.com (Mike Faggart)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 09:58:02 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] the dreaded "extra part"
In-Reply-To: <3ad057d60808161030u3133c13ahb9ea2091c95d06a9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3ad057d60808161030u3133c13ahb9ea2091c95d06a9@mail.gmail.com>
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I agree with Tom, that is the part for the defroster boot.

On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Bill Oakes <boakes at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi gang,
>
> between taking too long to get back started on the re-assembly of my
> '68 2000 Solex, and, well, not documenting everything well enough,
> I've ended up with the dreaded extra-part-on re-assembly, I'm afraid.
>
> I put the heater box back together, or I thought, with the re-built
> heater core and then on the bench I still saw this:
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/boakes/RoadsterMysteryPart
>
> help?
>
> -bill
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From aiken1315 at bellsouth.net  Sun Aug 17 08:07:23 2008
From: aiken1315 at bellsouth.net (aiken1315 at bellsouth.net)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 14:07:23 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] hardtop
In-Reply-To: <BAY106-W301086FB0E54C35E955DE6DF6F0@phx.gbl>
References: <3ad057d60808151142u7aa067dek75e6b60824d09ea7@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY106-W301086FB0E54C35E955DE6DF6F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <081720081407.16385.48A8309A000EBEB40000400122228869349B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFCACECCCE020A05070E@att.net>

 My car is used as a daily driver and I put my hard top on in Dec/Jan and use it until spring.

David
 -------------- Original message from peter harrison <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>: --------------


> FWIW
> Ok, I live in CA and thus for me a hardtop is peripheral. If you live in a
> climate where winter really hits and you still dirve the roadster, then
> putting it in on November (say) and removing it in April (say) makes sense.
> But if you are only a summer driver and rain is the only concern - get rid of
> it.
> Peter
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:42:22 -0500> From: boakes at gmail.com> To:
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] hardtop> > Hi gang,> >
> i'm having to go through a lot of my old Z car parts since losing a> storage
> garage, kind of a nice "cleansing" experience, i have to> admit.> > One of the
> things taking up a lot of space, still, is the hardtop that> came with my '68
> 2000, which still hasn't hit the road.> > When done (yes, it will be done
> someday) this will be a weekend> machine, rarely taken out in bad weather,
> mostly because there just> won't be a need.> > The question is; is it worth
> keeping the hardtop? Will I ever really> use it? I'm thinking not.> > I have
> pix of it at:> http://picasaweb.google.com/boakes/RoadsterHardtop> > So, if I
> don't keep it, how much is it worth? Anyone in the mid-west> (i'm in Chicago's
> north suburbs) interested??> > thanks> -Bill Oakes> Libertyville, IL> '68 2000
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From wschaibe at ucsd.edu  Sun Aug 17 13:17:48 2008
From: wschaibe at ucsd.edu (Bill Schairer)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:17:48 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] brake light problem
Message-ID: <a11dd8bbcdd02ad0d38a2f16f7546c0e@ucsd.edu>

I need help with my right hand brake lights.  I may be blind, but I 
cannot find the brake light switch on any of the wiring diagrams.  That 
being said, I have a red/white wire for left brakes and left turn 
signal and a black/white wire for right brakes and right turn signal.  
Three wire plug from the firewall has the red/white, the black/white 
and a green.  With brakes depressed, red/white is hot and black/white 
is not.  With right turn signal on the black/white gets juice.  If I 
splice in juice to the black/white from the brake switch, I get all 
brake lights on right and left but then my right turn signal does not 
work properly - it doesn't flash and juice goes to right and left.  
Left turn signal continues to work properly thru all.  In current 
status, all lights work properly but the right brake lights.  This is a 
1970 1600.  Can anyone help me out?

Bill
San Diego

From reblues at gmail.com  Sun Aug 17 13:43:37 2008
From: reblues at gmail.com (reblues at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:43:37 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] brake light problem
References: <a11dd8bbcdd02ad0d38a2f16f7546c0e@ucsd.edu>
Message-ID: <001701c900a1$8b9bd4b0$6601a8c0@ACER4230>

Bill,  this schematic helps.
http://www.311s.org/PDFs/1969-70%20Datsun%20SP%20L_R%20Sports%20Wiring%20Schematic%20rev0.pdf

If that doesn't work then go to the 311s.org pmwiki tech section and under 
electrical go to Schematics: Wiring Diagrams.

The R/B wire is the brake/turn signal on the 69 & 70's.  The G/W is the 
running lights.  Black is ground.  The R/B should be hot for either the 
brake or the turn signal.  Bad grounding will cause odd things to happen. 
Also all of these wires pass through the emergency flasher switch.  I've had 
a bad switch that cause weird things to happen.


Richard
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Schairer" <wschaibe at ucsd.edu>
To: "Datsun Roadster" <Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 3:17 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] brake light problem


>I need help with my right hand brake lights.  I may be blind, but I
> cannot find the brake light switch on any of the wiring diagrams.  That
> being said, I have a red/white wire for left brakes and left turn
> signal and a black/white wire for right brakes and right turn signal.
> Three wire plug from the firewall has the red/white, the black/white
> and a green.  With brakes depressed, red/white is hot and black/white
> is not.  With right turn signal on the black/white gets juice.  If I
> splice in juice to the black/white from the brake switch, I get all
> brake lights on right and left but then my right turn signal does not
> work properly - it doesn't flash and juice goes to right and left.
> Left turn signal continues to work properly thru all.  In current
> status, all lights work properly but the right brake lights.  This is a
> 1970 1600.  Can anyone help me out?
>
> Bill
> San Diego
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From Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com  Sun Aug 17 14:09:34 2008
From: Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com (Pat)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:09:34 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] brake light problem
In-Reply-To: <a11dd8bbcdd02ad0d38a2f16f7546c0e@ucsd.edu>
References: <a11dd8bbcdd02ad0d38a2f16f7546c0e@ucsd.edu>
Message-ID: <48A8857E.1090300@HorneSystemsTx.com>

Bill,

Sounds like you have dirty contacts in the turn signal switch. If you 
can get it apart, clean and lube the contacts with silicone grease and 
give that a try. I can help you figure out the rest of it, given some time.

On the drawing 
http://www.311s.org/tech/electrical/wiring/69-701600-2000reva.pdf I 
believe the brake light switch is the circle below where it says "Hazard 
Flasher"  with the 2 green-yellow wires. This drawing is not complete in 
its information on the Hazard switch, so I will have to look at another 
drawing.

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Bill Schairer:
> I need help with my right hand brake lights.  I may be blind, but I 
> cannot find the brake light switch on any of the wiring diagrams.  That 
> being said, I have a red/white wire for left brakes and left turn 
> signal and a black/white wire for right brakes and right turn signal.  
> Three wire plug from the firewall has the red/white, the black/white 
> and a green.  With brakes depressed, red/white is hot and black/white 
> is not.  With right turn signal on the black/white gets juice.  If I 
> splice in juice to the black/white from the brake switch, I get all 
> brake lights on right and left but then my right turn signal does not 
> work properly - it doesn't flash and juice goes to right and left.  
> Left turn signal continues to work properly thru all.  In current 
> status, all lights work properly but the right brake lights.  This is a 
> 1970 1600.  Can anyone help me out?
>
> Bill
> San Diego
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From alvingogi at hotmail.com  Sun Aug 17 14:40:34 2008
From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 20:40:34 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Monterey Histroics
In-Reply-To: <43548.94178.qm@web82403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <BLU147-W240D7494BE33A4EEC71290B56D0@phx.gbl>
	<43548.94178.qm@web82403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU147-W3847F1A2A842960EA5A45AB56F0@phx.gbl>

Pictures from the Monterey Historic races:
http://rides.webshots.com/album/565513587lKYKZL

We had 11 Datsuns/Nissans drive down together.
John Morton led in his scarab on saturday, I took some videos and posted on
youtube, check here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/alvingogi

enjoy!Alvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20



Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:12:20 -0700From: dc at classicracingphotos.comSubject:
RE: Monterey HistroicsTo: alvingogi at hotmail.com
Good for you!  Wish I was there....maybe next year.  Les drove up yesterday.

Tell John you are his "official" photographer for this event .  He is
understand.  Here are shots of him last weekend
http://classicracingphotos.com/MontereyPreHistorics/

Look forward to seeing all your great photos.

BTW, we are moving BACK to San Diego again, next week.  Hopefully for good
this time.

Thanks,


Dennisalvin gogineni <alvingogi at hotmail.com> wrote:


Dennis I am going.I will try to take pics of John in both carsAlvin
GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20


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From wschaibe at ucsd.edu  Sun Aug 17 17:25:23 2008
From: wschaibe at ucsd.edu (Bill Schairer)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:25:23 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] brake light problem
In-Reply-To: <48A8857E.1090300@HorneSystemsTx.com>
References: <a11dd8bbcdd02ad0d38a2f16f7546c0e@ucsd.edu>
	<48A8857E.1090300@HorneSystemsTx.com>
Message-ID: <c013f5a130b57fb6b13d0bde63224299@ucsd.edu>

Thanks for all the suggestions and now I know where to find the brake 
switch on the diagrams.  I now suspect the hazard switch.  It flashes 
very slowly and if I put the brakes on it stops flashing and all the 
tail lights are lit.  My son got cited for no rear brake light after 
getting pulled over for speeding so I now I have to get it fixed and 
inspected.  I suppose I could try to fake out the officer by pulling 
the hazard switch as I put the brakes on but I would like to get them 
working right anyway.

Bill
San Diego
On Aug 17, 2008, at 1:09 PM, Pat wrote:

> Bill,
>
> Sounds like you have dirty contacts in the turn signal switch. If you 
> can get it apart, clean and lube the contacts with silicone grease and 
> give that a try. I can help you figure out the rest of it, given some 
> time.
>
> On the drawing 
> http://www.311s.org/tech/electrical/wiring/69-701600-2000reva.pdf I 
> believe the brake light switch is the circle below where it says 
> "Hazard Flasher"  with the 2 green-yellow wires. This drawing is not 
> complete in its information on the Hazard switch, so I will have to 
> look at another drawing.
>
> Peace,
> Pat
>
> Thusly spake Bill Schairer:
>> I need help with my right hand brake lights.  I may be blind, but I 
>> cannot find the brake light switch on any of the wiring diagrams.  
>> That being said, I have a red/white wire for left brakes and left 
>> turn signal and a black/white wire for right brakes and right turn 
>> signal.  Three wire plug from the firewall has the red/white, the 
>> black/white and a green.  With brakes depressed, red/white is hot and 
>> black/white is not.  With right turn signal on the black/white gets 
>> juice.  If I splice in juice to the black/white from the brake 
>> switch, I get all brake lights on right and left but then my right 
>> turn signal does not work properly - it doesn't flash and juice goes 
>> to right and left.  Left turn signal continues to work properly thru 
>> all.  In current status, all lights work properly but the right brake 
>> lights.  This is a 1970 1600.  Can anyone help me out?
>>
>> Bill
>> San Diego
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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Sun Aug 17 22:09:55 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 00:09:55 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Stolen car, well sort of...
Message-ID: <000001c900e8$4610ab40$6800a8c0@delled48909442>

I just got back home to New Jersey from picking up what I thought was my
new 66 1600 from North Carolina. It was a LONG grueling drive.  About
halfway home, my Wife, Linda,  asked where we were going to keep 2
Datsuns, I told her the 66 we just got would eventually replace my 69
2000, so after the 2000 was sold, it would be in the garage.  She gave a
rather strange look.thought for a moment, and then informed me that this
was HER car, the 2000 was mine.  I had not been aware of this part of
the plan. I had sold all my "extra roadsters" in the last few weeks to
make room for this one, planning on doing a full rebuild and making it
the keeper, then sell my 2000, and get most of the money spent back..
This is apparently now NOT the plan.  

 

She was deciding on colors on the way home, turquoise is leading so far.
Oh, and she wants my stroker motor too!!  So I cleaned out the garage to
make room for HER car to be inside.  MY car is at my sister's house, 15
miles away in her garage, and will live OUTSIDE when it's at our house.
This now explains the weatherproof car cover I got for my birthday last
month. This plan has been in the works for a while.

 

Three things come to mind

1.	She should really learn to drive a stick.
2.	I have to stop letting her hang around Mark Dent, I sense his
evil influence in here somewhere. 
3.	I need to see if "SWMBO" is avail for a license plate.

 

 

I feel SO violated..

 

 

 

Dave Brisco

From slowboy at cox.net  Sun Aug 17 22:35:33 2008
From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 21:35:33 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] brake light problem
References: <a11dd8bbcdd02ad0d38a2f16f7546c0e@ucsd.edu>
	<48A8857E.1090300@HorneSystemsTx.com>
Message-ID: <001d01c900eb$da9b86b0$0201a8c0@m7170n>

Bill,

Pat is correct. The two green/yellow wires are connected to the brake switch 
on the brake pedal. I just peeled back some tape on one of my cars and took 
measurements on the wires.

Jim


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pat" <Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com>
To: "Bill Schairer" <wschaibe at ucsd.edu>
Cc: "Datsun Roadster" <Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] brake light problem


> Bill,
>
> Sounds like you have dirty contacts in the turn signal switch. If you
> can get it apart, clean and lube the contacts with silicone grease and
> give that a try. I can help you figure out the rest of it, given some 
> time.
>
> On the drawing
> http://www.311s.org/tech/electrical/wiring/69-701600-2000reva.pdf I
> believe the brake light switch is the circle below where it says "Hazard
> Flasher"  with the 2 green-yellow wires. This drawing is not complete in
> its information on the Hazard switch, so I will have to look at another
> drawing.
>
> Peace,
> Pat
>
> Thusly spake Bill Schairer:
>> I need help with my right hand brake lights.  I may be blind, but I
>> cannot find the brake light switch on any of the wiring diagrams.  That
>> being said, I have a red/white wire for left brakes and left turn
>> signal and a black/white wire for right brakes and right turn signal.
>> Three wire plug from the firewall has the red/white, the black/white
>> and a green.  With brakes depressed, red/white is hot and black/white
>> is not.  With right turn signal on the black/white gets juice.  If I
>> splice in juice to the black/white from the brake switch, I get all
>> brake lights on right and left but then my right turn signal does not
>> work properly - it doesn't flash and juice goes to right and left.
>> Left turn signal continues to work properly thru all.  In current
>> status, all lights work properly but the right brake lights.  This is a
>> 1970 1600.  Can anyone help me out?
>>
>> Bill
>> San Diego
>> ________________________________________

From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Sun Aug 17 23:07:44 2008
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (Nathaniel Leeds)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:07:44 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 1,200 miles, 5,000 feet; now where do I set me SU's?
Message-ID: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOOEGCNNAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>

All,

First, I'd like to thank everyone for encouraging me to try the cross
country trip. The roadster performed admirably, or that was after I cured
some pinging with a generous treatment of octane boost, and a mysterious
non-idle, no-start, with some new points in Ely, NV. (Next iron-bottom, I'm
bringing a timing light and dwell meter)

Now I'm finally at sea level. I'm giddy with the promise of more power.
Unfortunately the first low altitude runs have been noisy messy affairs: the
car smells like a refinery and backfires like Chinese new year until the
engine gets well above normal operating temperature. Some of these problems
might be other maintenance that I'll need to do after the long, heavy
driving, but I'll get to that once I get the setting right.

I had a decent scheme for the timing and carbs at 5000 feet, but I thought
I'd ask the list where people set their sea-level SU's, timing, and what
octane everyone likes.

Here's some information: '69 2000, no air pump, SU's, w/ the Solex cam,
headers with aggressive exhaust.

Nathaniel Leeds

From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Sun Aug 17 23:11:58 2008
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (Nathaniel Leeds)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:11:58 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] correction: "my SU's"
In-Reply-To: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOOEGCNNAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOGEGDNNAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>

Also, some time I'll need to post to the list and describe what happens when
you brake a throttle return spring on a long open stretch of highway in the
middle of Nevada. The short: you get where you were going a lot faster than
you expected.

N

From sandhoff at csus.edu  Sun Aug 17 23:45:44 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:45:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] My wife is a roadsterholic (was: Stolen car...)
In-Reply-To: <000001c900e8$4610ab40$6800a8c0@delled48909442>
References: <000001c900e8$4610ab40$6800a8c0@delled48909442>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0808172240130.6800@netserv.csus.edu>

Dave laments:
> [she] informed me that this was HER car, the 2000 was mine.

Then comments:
> 1.	She should really learn to drive a stick.

And ends with:
> I feel SO violated..

I've got news for you, Dave...

I'm suspecting
she plans
on learning
how to drive a stick...

... on YOUR car :-)


-- John
     John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu  Sacramento, CA

p.s. Admit it. She's a keeper. And I don't mean the car :-)

From tpsmithstl at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 18 06:49:09 2008
From: tpsmithstl at yahoo.com (Perry Smith)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 05:49:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] correction: "my SU's"
Message-ID: <667232.13059.qm@web50008.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Good excuse for the next time a cop pulls you over "Oh, I just KNEW my
throttle return spring was broken..." (Next question, then "No I don't know,
my speedomoter is broken - you know how these old cars are...)

Perry 
'69
2000

----- Original Message ----
From: Nathaniel Leeds
<nmleeds at mindspring.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday,
August 18, 2008 12:11:58 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] correction: "my SU's"

Also,
some time I'll need to post to the list and describe what happens when
you
brake a throttle return spring on a long open stretch of highway in the
middle
of Nevada. The short: you get where you were going a lot faster than
you
expected.

N
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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Mon Aug 18 07:00:52 2008
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:00:52 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] correction: "my SU's"
In-Reply-To: <667232.13059.qm@web50008.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <667232.13059.qm@web50008.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000601c90132$742ba620$5c82f260$@net>

-----Original Message-----

"No I don't know,
my speedomoter is broken - you know how these old cars are...)
--------------------------------

BTDT!

Paul
Ohio

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Mon Aug 18 10:20:30 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:20:30 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 1,200 miles, 5,000 feet;
 now where do I set me  SU's?
In-Reply-To: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOOEGCNNAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
References: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOOEGCNNAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <1C6E6B3597454501A084D130ECFAAF28@xp>

Granted, this is coming from the guy with his roadster on blocks since 2006,
but...

1. Eliminate all points issues; dump the points dizzy and get an EI dizzy.
Set it and forget it. If you feel the need, you can still carry a dwell
meter, timing light, and spare points to help those less fortunate. <g>

2. Ensure the valves are adjusted. 

3. My understanding is that our beasties only like premium gas.

4. The No Frills Iron Bottom Tour is no more:
<http://www.bench-racing.com/html/no_frills.html>

Cheers.

Pete "looking forward to long distance in the roadster some day"

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Nathaniel Leeds
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:08 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] 1,200 miles, 5,000 feet; now where do I set me SU's?

All,

First, I'd like to thank everyone for encouraging me to try the cross
country trip. The roadster performed admirably, or that was after I cured
some pinging with a generous treatment of octane boost, and a mysterious
non-idle, no-start, with some new points in Ely, NV. (Next iron-bottom, I'm
bringing a timing light and dwell meter)

Now I'm finally at sea level. I'm giddy with the promise of more power.
Unfortunately the first low altitude runs have been noisy messy affairs: the
car smells like a refinery and backfires like Chinese new year until the
engine gets well above normal operating temperature. Some of these problems
might be other maintenance that I'll need to do after the long, heavy
driving, but I'll get to that once I get the setting right.

I had a decent scheme for the timing and carbs at 5000 feet, but I thought
I'd ask the list where people set their sea-level SU's, timing, and what
octane everyone likes.

Here's some information: '69 2000, no air pump, SU's, w/ the Solex cam,
headers with aggressive exhaust.

Nathaniel Leeds
Datsun-roadsters mailing list

http://www.team.net/archive

http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters

From tom at datsun2000.com  Mon Aug 18 10:32:47 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:32:47 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] correction: "my SU's"
In-Reply-To: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOGEGDNNAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGAEIDDFAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

Breaking a throttle return spring is why I always carry (And Calspeed
included in his things to carry list) a spare throttle spring or two in the
glove box.  I broke the rear spring on my first 2L in 1968 at around 80 MPH
while the hand throttle was set.  When I released the throttle nothing
slowed down.  Being dark it was a little difficult to figure out, but if you
break a spring without a spare you can put the remaining spring on the rear
SU and it will control both carburetors.  The front spring only controls the
front carb.  This is has been my experience for U20 engines.  I am not sure
what happens on R16 engines.

The next day I went into the Everett, WA Datsun dealer and purchased two
sets of springs.  One to put on the car, and the other to put in the glove
box, where I think you will find at least one spring today.

If you break the front spring you might not notice the problem.... Until you
break the rear spring.  It is not a bad idea to look at your springs when
you are changing the oil, or have the hood open for almost any reason.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org - Home of the Emergency Road list

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Nathaniel Leeds
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:12 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] correction: "my SU's"


Also, some time I'll need to post to the list and describe what happens when
you brake a throttle return spring on a long open stretch of highway in the
middle of Nevada. The short: you get where you were going a lot faster than
you expected.

N

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Mon Aug 18 10:32:22 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:32:22 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] 1,200 miles, 5,000 feet;
 now where do I set me  SU's?
Message-ID: <c2c.401bb093.35dafe16@aol.com>

In a message dated 8/17/2008 10:08:36 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
nmleeds at mindspring.com writes:


Now  I'm finally at sea level. I'm giddy with the promise of more  power.
Unfortunately the first low altitude runs have been noisy messy  affairs: the
car smells like a refinery and backfires like Chinese new year  until the
engine gets well above normal operating temperature. Some of  these problems
might be other maintenance that I'll need to do after the  long, heavy
driving, but I'll get to that once I get the setting  right.

I had a decent scheme for the timing and carbs at 5000 feet, but  I thought
I'd ask the list where people set their sea-level SU's, timing,  and what
octane everyone likes.



Start with double checking your timing and valve lash. Take a look at your  
plugs. Are they carboned up or really white? Good indication of rich or lean.  
Check my SU setup site.  
_Click here: Setting  up and adjusting SU/Hitachi carbs on the Datsun 
Roadster_ (http://www.311s.org/tech/engine/keithsus.html)  
 
Let us know how it goes.
 
keith




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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Mon Aug 18 10:42:23 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:42:23 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] 1,200 miles, 5,000 feet;
 now where do I set me   SU's?
Message-ID: <c3c.3b442598.35db006f@aol.com>

In a message dated 8/18/2008 9:33:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
Keith0alan at aol.com writes:


Now  I'm finally at sea level. I'm giddy with the promise of  more  power.
Unfortunately the first low altitude runs have been noisy  messy  affairs: the
car smells like a refinery and backfires like  Chinese new year  until the
engine gets well above normal operating  temperature. Some of  these problems
might be other maintenance that  I'll need to do after the  long, heavy
driving, but I'll get to that  once I get the setting  right.

I had a decent scheme for the  timing and carbs at 5000 feet, but  I thought
I'd ask the list where  people set their sea-level SU's, timing,  and what
octane everyone  likes.



Start with double checking your timing and valve lash.  Take a look at your  
plugs. Are they carboned up or really white?  Good indication of rich or 
lean.  
Check my SU setup site.   
_Click here: Setting  up and adjusting SU/Hitachi carbs on the Datsun  
Roadster_ (http://www.311s.org/tech/engine/keithsus.html)   

Let us know how it goes.

keith


or this link




_http://members.aol.com/roadsterranch/su-setup/su-setup.html_ 
(http://members.aol.com/roadsterranch/su-setup/su-setup.html) 
 
kw



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From tom at datsun2000.com  Mon Aug 18 10:50:59 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:50:59 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 1,200 miles, 5,000 feet;
 now where do I set me  SU's?
In-Reply-To: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOOEGCNNAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGIEIDDFAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

Sad to say, the Iron Bottom has seen it's last run.  There is another run
coming up in Northern California called RUN FOREST RUN.  I have links to
that run on nowroc.org and datsun2000.com.  It is not intended to replace
the Iron Bottom, but people I have met from the area tell me it is likely to
be a great multi-day outing with each day starting in Arcata and exploring a
different part of the territory.

Keith Williams has told me that the damper design of the SU carburetor is
self compensating for altitude, which is one of the advantages of this
carburetor design.  I have never noticed any power differences due to
mixture adjustment changes when going from 16' above sea level where I live
to around 5000 feet.

I would strongly suggest going with a breakerless ignition system.  The best
and most reliable is the updated dizzy Dave Brisco is offering, but there
are others you can choose if you prefer.

Make sure you have your timing adjusted correctly for your dizzy advance
springs.  A smog dizzy should be set for 0 degrees advance (more is hard on
your upper chain - BTDT), and a pre-smog set of advance springs allows for a
setting the timing up to -16 degrees BTDC.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Nathaniel Leeds
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:08 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] 1,200 miles, 5,000 feet; now where do I set me
SU's?


All,

First, I'd like to thank everyone for encouraging me to try the cross
country trip. The roadster performed admirably, or that was after I cured
some pinging with a generous treatment of octane boost, and a mysterious
non-idle, no-start, with some new points in Ely, NV. (Next iron-bottom, I'm
bringing a timing light and dwell meter)

Now I'm finally at sea level. I'm giddy with the promise of more power.
Unfortunately the first low altitude runs have been noisy messy affairs: the
car smells like a refinery and backfires like Chinese new year until the
engine gets well above normal operating temperature. Some of these problems
might be other maintenance that I'll need to do after the long, heavy
driving, but I'll get to that once I get the setting right.

I had a decent scheme for the timing and carbs at 5000 feet, but I thought
I'd ask the list where people set their sea-level SU's, timing, and what
octane everyone likes.

Here's some information: '69 2000, no air pump, SU's, w/ the Solex cam,
headers with aggressive exhaust.

Nathaniel Leeds

From tom at datsun2000.com  Mon Aug 18 11:03:09 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:03:09 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Stolen car, well sort of...
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGGEIEDFAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

This is probably no help at all...... But if you look at Buzz Bowerman's
wife's car you might notice the automatic tranny, saving your wife the
inconvenience of her having to learn how to drive a stick.

I have pictures of this car on the 2008 (and maybe 2007) Shasta pictures
found on the EVENTS page of datsun2000.com.  Click on TOM.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde (safe from "theft" - SHE wants a 710 wagon)
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org






On 8/17/2008 9:09:55 PM, dave (daveandlindab at comcast.net) wrote:
> I just got back home to New Jersey from picking up what I thought was my
> new 66 1600 from North Carolina. It was a LONG grueling drive.  About
> halfway home, my Wife, Linda,  asked where we were going to keep 2
> Datsuns, I told her the 66 we just got would eventually replace my 69
> 2000, so after the 2000 was sold, it would be in the garage.  She gave a
> rather strange look.thought for a moment, and then informed me that this
> was HER car, the 2000 was mine.  I had not been aware of this part of
> the plan. I had sold all my "extra roadsters" in the last few weeks to
> make room for this one, planning on doing a full rebuild and making it
> the keeper, then sell my 2000, and get most of the money spent back..
> This is apparently now NOT the plan.
>
>
>
> She was deciding on colors on the way home, turquoise is leading so far.
> Oh, and she wants my stroker motor too!!  So I cleaned out the garage to
> make room for HER car to be inside.  MY car is at my
> sister's house, 15
> miles away in her garage, and will live OUTSIDE when it's
> at our house.
> This now explains the weatherproof car cover I got for my birthday last
> month. This plan has been in the work

From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Mon Aug 18 11:41:43 2008
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:41:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Stolen car, well sort of...
In-Reply-To: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGGEIEDFAA.tom@datsun2000.com>
Message-ID: <795894.32980.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The only thing that could possibly be worse than putting Miata parts (seats) in a Datsun Roadster would be putting a slush box shift-for-me tranny in it - IMHO...

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

"Tom @ Datsun2000" <tom at datsun2000.com> wrote: This is probably no help at all...... But if you look at Buzz Bowerman's
wife's car you might notice the automatic tranny, saving your wife the
inconvenience of her having to learn how to drive a stick.

I have pictures of this car on the 2008 (and maybe 2007) Shasta pictures
found on the EVENTS page of datsun2000.com.  Click on TOM.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde (safe from "theft" - SHE wants a 710 wagon)
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org






On 8/17/2008 9:09:55 PM, dave (daveandlindab at comcast.net) wrote:
> I just got back home to New Jersey from picking up what I thought was my
> new 66 1600 from North Carolina. It was a LONG grueling drive.  About
> halfway home, my Wife, Linda,  asked where we were going to keep 2
> Datsuns, I told her the 66 we just got would eventually replace my 69
> 2000, so after the 2000 was sold, it would be in the garage.  She gave a
> rather strange look.thought for a moment, and then informed me that this
> was HER car, the 2000 was mine.  I had not been aware of this part of
> the plan. I had sold all my "extra roadsters" in the last few weeks to
> make room for this one, planning on doing a full rebuild and making it
> the keeper, then sell my 2000, and get most of the money spent back..
> This is apparently now NOT the plan.
>
>
>
> She was deciding on colors on the way home, turquoise is leading so far.
> Oh, and she wants my stroker motor too!!  So I cleaned out the garage to
> make room for HER car to be inside.  MY car is at my
> sister's house, 15
> miles away in her garage, and will live OUTSIDE when it's
> at our house.
> This now explains the weatherproof car cover I got for my birthday last
> month. This plan has been in the work
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From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Mon Aug 18 15:22:07 2008
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (Nathaniel Leeds)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:22:07 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Dwell of 37 degrees - are my points shot?
Message-ID: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOMEGMNNAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>

Still adjusting the car after the long road trip and I'm starting to wonder
what's up with my points.  So here's the problem -- above 4500 rpm's, under
any load, I'm getting the chinese fireworks out of the back of the tailpipe.
My thought: maybe I don't have enough dwell; not enough dwell => not enough
magnetic field => weak spark.  Right? So I go to check my dwell and it's a
sorry 37 degrees. My attempts to bring it up to the 49-50 in spec. are
rewarded with a car that doesn't start at all.

Who says this means that my points are shot; or, more specifically, that my
foot is so shot that the geometry can't both give me enough dwell, and
enough separation for a really nice spark.

I know this means that I should be going away from points and condensers and
buy an electric system, but I'm a poor, out of work, attorney with student
loans and an expensive dry cleaning bill who can't afford the upgrade just
yet.

Nathaniel Leeds
'69 2000 SU's

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Mon Aug 18 15:53:52 2008
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:53:52 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Stolen car, well sort of...
In-Reply-To: <795894.32980.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGGEIEDFAA.tom@datsun2000.com>
	<795894.32980.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY106-W143A3AE7083D5C32486988DF6E0@phx.gbl>

Gary
I'm glad your opinion is 'humble'. My Miata seats were a great comfort to me
on my x-country trip <G>



> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:41:43 -0700> From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net> To:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stolen car, well
sort of...> > The only thing that could possibly be worse than putting Miata
parts (seats) in a Datsun Roadster would be putting a slush box shift-for-me
tranny in it - IMHO...> > Gary McCormick> San Jose, CA> > "Tom @ Datsun2000"
<tom at datsun2000.com> wrote: This is probably no help at all...... But if you
look at Buzz Bowerman's> wife's car you might notice the automatic tranny,
saving your wife the> inconvenience of her having to learn how to drive a
stick.> > I have pictures of this car on the 2008 (and maybe 2007) Shasta
pictures> found on the EVENTS page of datsun2000.com. Click on TOM.> > Tom> 69
2000 - Mr. Hyde (safe from "theft" - SHE wants a 710 wagon)> Portland>
http://www.datsun2000.com> http://www.nowroc.org> > > > > > > On 8/17/2008
9:09:55 PM, dave (daveandlindab at comcast.net) wrote:> > I just got back home to
New Jersey from picking up what I thought was my> > new 66 1600 from North
Carolina. It was a LONG grueling drive. About> > halfway home, my Wife, Linda,
asked where we were going to keep 2> > Datsuns, I told her the 66 we just got
would eventually replace my 69> > 2000, so after the 2000 was sold, it would
be in the garage. She gave a> > rather strange look.thought for a moment, and
then informed me that this> > was HER car, the 2000 was mine. I had not been
aware of this part of> > the plan. I had sold all my "extra roadsters" in the
last few weeks to> > make room for this one, planning on doing a full rebuild
and making it> > the keeper, then sell my 2000, and get most of the money
spent back..> > This is apparently now NOT the plan.> >> >> >> > She was
deciding on colors on the way home, turquoise is leading so far.> > Oh, and
she wants my stroker motor too!! So I cleaned out the garage to> > make room
for HER car to be inside. MY car is at my> > sister's house, 15> > miles away
in her garage, and will live OUTSIDE when it's> > at our house.> > This now
explains the weatherproof car cover I got for my birthday last> > month. This
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From jim at seattle-attorney.com  Mon Aug 18 18:49:35 2008
From: jim at seattle-attorney.com (Jim Anable)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:49:35 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Can you help diagnose a brake problem?
In-Reply-To: <489CD2E8.7090909@seattle-attorney.com>
References: <489CD2E8.7090909@seattle-attorney.com>
Message-ID: <48AA189F.30507@seattle-attorney.com>

Thanks to all for their messages and suggestions.  I've been neglecting 
E-mail for a while, but here's how it resolved...

I picked the car up, and the mechanic said that he and the owner "found" 
the adjustment on the rear brakes.  It just needed adjustment!

There's a rod in the back that attaches to the parking brake lever.  
They said that I had snapped the rod.  That's the only thing that they 
welded.
So, I'm guessing that the shoes were WAY loose.  I came to a slight 
incline, applied the parking brake, which didn't have enough throw to 
lock the shoes...  but did have enough throw to somehow knock them off 
center, resulting in the rhythmic scraping/grinding (that immediately 
would follow application of the parking brake).

I have the service manual and debated whether I should bring in a copy 
of the parking brake section and showing the adjuster.  But I figured 
that their in the brake business, so....

It's been resolved.  Now that the rain has returned!


Jim Anable wrote:
> I brought my '70 2000 in to the brake shop because the parking brake 
> would no longer hold if I applied in on a hill (and I've got a gnarly 
> one between office and home).
>
> Shop says I need rear brakes.  Fine.
>
> They complete the job and say that they did a weld on the brake cable 
> (?).  I pick the car up, and it seems to drive okay until I try to use 
> the parking brake on a hill.  It wouldn't hold, and there's also a 
> rhythmic scrape from the rear right drum.  Owner says they may need to 
> tack a rod on to brace whatever weld they did.
>
> I take it back for round two.  They can't figure it out.  Gotta leave it 
> for a day.
>
> I call the next day, they say "all done, just needed adjustment."
>
> On the way home...  You guessed it!  I *gingerly* apply the brake on a 
> slight incline.  It does NOT hold.  There was never a "give" or a sign 
> that any weld or repair gave way.  IMMEDIATELY after attempting to set 
> the brake, the rhythmic scraping returns!
>
> Any clues?  My brake shop doesn't seem to have one.  Now I'm without my 
> car for the weekend.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Jim (who quit messing with brakes years ago, and has forgotten what 
> little he knew back then)
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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Mon Aug 18 19:09:24 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:09:24 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Dwell of 37 degrees - are my points shot?
Message-ID: <c9d.2e6dd1f1.35db7744@aol.com>

Could be the rubbing block is worn out and you need new points.
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 8/18/2008 2:33:20 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
nmleeds at mindspring.com writes:

Still  adjusting the car after the long road trip and I'm starting to  wonder
what's up with my points.  So here's the problem -- above 4500  rpm's, under
any load, I'm getting the chinese fireworks out of the back of  the tailpipe.
My thought: maybe I don't have enough dwell; not enough dwell  => not enough
magnetic field => weak spark.  Right? So I go to  check my dwell and it's a
sorry 37 degrees. My attempts to bring it up to  the 49-50 in spec. are
rewarded with a car that doesn't start at  all.

Who says this means that my points are shot; or, more  specifically, that my
foot is so shot that the geometry can't both give me  enough dwell, and
enough separation for a really nice spark.

I know  this means that I should be going away from points and condensers and
buy  an electric system, but I'm a poor, out of work, attorney with  student
loans and an expensive dry cleaning bill who can't afford the  upgrade just
yet.

Nathaniel Leeds
'69 2000  SU's





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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Tue Aug 19 18:21:38 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:21:38 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] A Arm shaft remanufacture orders due now
Message-ID: <8CAD071D8A43297-169C-1DB8@WEBMAIL-MA09.sysops.aol.com>

In case some of you missed it, on the 311 list a guy named Eddie, (handle, eddietude), has remanufactured some A Arm shafts for a reasonable price. Anyone wanting to order should order now, right away. A limited number are being made and order is due. Extras will go to vendors and price will go up.

I have NO connection but wanted to pass along the info as a reminder.

Again, 311 list, eddietude

Linda

From vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 19 18:44:10 2008
From: vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com (Vince Strazzabosco)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:44:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Good Parts Supplier Suggestions?
Message-ID: <331482.68450.qm@web33505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Okay, so I have the "junkyard special" '66.  A few days after I bought it without a title, the title showed up, so I happily gave him the rest of the money.  He also told me about the original hard top, sitting at a nearby shop.  I went to the shop, and in a trash filled storage room in the barrio, there it was, an old Astro top.  There's a crack on one section that is easy to repair, and the rear window is also broken and the window seal is also shot.  But it's back with the car, not sure if I'll use it.

I replaced the old oil filter that has been on it for ages (had to take the adapter off the block to get it off) and added fresh oil.  A peek inside the gas tank showed some older gas, but no water or rust floating around.  So I added 4 gallons of fresh 92 octane, and hooked up the now charged battery.  After 20 seconds of cranking, it started, ran rough for a little while, then smoothed out.  It idles high, about 1500 rpm, but the oil pressure is about 30-35 psi, coolant stayed about 130 degrees and the engine sounds good.  It does need tuning, of course.

There is some pressure in the brake pedal, and a good flushing and bleeding will probably work wonders.  Pads and shoes are unknown yet.  No clutch hydraulics at all, but I was told this was the problem.

So, does anybody have any good suggestions to get replacement parts from?  I obviously need a clutch master and slave to start with.  I'd rather ask for some recommendations before I start ordering stuff.  Not all vendors are the same....

Thanks,

vince
1966 1600 Roadstser
Naperville, IL

From gregs672liter at netzero.net  Tue Aug 19 19:33:44 2008
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:33:44 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] Dwell of 37 degrees - are my points shot?
Message-ID: <20080819.183344.16207.1@webmail09.vgs.untd.com>

Is it possibly a bad condensor?  My friend's 1600 would backfire and miss for
no reason, and it started doing it suddenly.  It was a bitch to start but
eventually after it got warm enough it would run but very rough.  After we let
it cool down for just a bit, we refired it... it ran ok for a short period of
time, then began the same behavior.  My brain said "Something is getting hot
and sucking spark away."  So we changed out the condensor... problem
immediately solved.  BTW, he had messed with the point gap exactly as you have
described and was able to get the car to run at certain RPMs, but it was the
condensor the whole time.  This may explain the inability to change dwell as
well (?).  Cheap and easy to find out!
Greg Burrows
67 2000

-- Keith0alan at aol.com wrote:
Could be the rubbing block is worn out and you need new points.

keith


In a message dated 8/18/2008 2:33:20 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
nmleeds at mindspring.com writes:

Still  adjusting the car after the long road trip and I'm starting to  wonder
what's up with my points.  So here's the problem -- above 4500  rpm's, under
any load, I'm getting the chinese fireworks out of the back of  the tailpipe.
My thought: maybe I don't have enough dwell; not enough dwell  => not enough
magnetic field => weak spark.  Right? So I go to  check my dwell and it's a
sorry 37 degrees. My attempts to bring it up to  the 49-50 in spec. are
rewarded with a car that doesn't start at  all.

Who says this means that my points are shot; or, more  specifically, that my
foot is so shot that the geometry can't both give me  enough dwell, and
enough separation for a really nice spark.

I know  this means that I should be going away from points and condensers and
buy  an electric system, but I'm a poor, out of work, attorney with  student
loans and an expensive dry cleaning bill who can't afford the  upgrade just
yet.

Nathaniel Leeds
'69 2000  SU's



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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Aug 19 20:28:30 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:28:30 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch master & slave (was Re: Good Parts Supplier
 Suggestions?)
Message-ID: <082020080228.25379.48AB814E000825B6000063232200734830CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

>From the Hydraulics section of the Parts Interchange on 311s.org:

# Clutch slave Raybestos #SC37213 or Beck-Arnley 072-1241. Application 1969-1972 521 truck. Fits perfectly, everything bolts right up. Bought at the local Parts Plus store for about $27--$32. 

(67.5 and all high winshields)
# Clutch master early 510 clutch master cylinder number, Beck-Arnley 072-1084, used till 2/69.(All) 

>From RockAuto.com:

Clutch master: BECK/ARNLEY Part # 072-6521          $36.79

They also list a repair kit for the clutch slave.

Ciao.

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Vince Strazzabosco <vstrazzabosco at yahoo.com>
> Okay, so I have the "junkyard special" '66.  A few days after I bought it 
> without a title, the title showed up, so I happily gave him the rest of the 
> money.  He also told me about the original hard top, sitting at a nearby shop.  
> I went to the shop, and in a trash filled storage room in the barrio, there it 
> was, an old Astro top.  There's a crack on one section that is easy to repair, 
> and the rear window is also broken and the window seal is also shot.  But it's 
> back with the car, not sure if I'll use it.
> 
> I replaced the old oil filter that has been on it for ages (had to take the 
> adapter off the block to get it off) and added fresh oil.  A peek inside the gas 
> tank showed some older gas, but no water or rust floating around.  So I added 4 
> gallons of fresh 92 octane, and hooked up the now charged battery.  After 20 
> seconds of cranking, it started, ran rough for a little while, then smoothed 
> out.  It idles high, about 1500 rpm, but the oil pressure is about 30-35 psi, 
> coolant stayed about 130 degrees and the engine sounds good.  It does need 
> tuning, of course.
> 
> There is some pressure in the brake pedal, and a good flushing and bleeding will 
> probably work wonders.  Pads and shoes are unknown yet.  No clutch hydraulics at 
> all, but I was told this was the problem.
> 
> So, does anybody have any good suggestions to get replacement parts from?  I 
> obviously need a clutch master and slave to start with.  I'd rather ask for some 
> recommendations before I start ordering stuff.  Not all vendors are the same....
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> vince
> 1966 1600 Roadstser
> Naperville, IL
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Aug 19 20:37:53 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:37:53 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] A Arm shaft remanufacture orders due now
Message-ID: <082020080237.24783.48AB8381000C3AFB000060CF2200735834CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Here's a link to the thread, but you have to be a registered member on 311s.org:

<http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=8205>

Pete

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net
> In case some of you missed it, on the 311 list a guy named Eddie, (handle, 
> eddietude), has remanufactured some A Arm shafts for a reasonable price. Anyone 
> wanting to order should order now, right away. A limited number are being made 
> and order is due. Extras will go to vendors and price will go up.
> 
> I have NO connection but wanted to pass along the info as a reminder.
> 
> Again, 311 list, eddietude
> 
> Linda
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From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Tue Aug 19 22:35:57 2008
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:35:57 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] R16 Maximum Valve Lift?
Message-ID: <004d01c9027e$3e4a6e90$6500a8c0@Daryl>

Anyone know what the maximum valve lift is on the R16 before you have to start
changing components?

Recent head work has shown the exhaust retainers are hitting the valve seals
and have destroyed them  . Guess that has to be part of why my car wasn't
running so well.......

Cam has only .265" lift (.385" valve lift), and for some reason I expected to
be able to go well past .400" valve lift before I had problems..... Am I
wrong?

I'm thinking the custom valves are too short??  or...??

Thanks
Daryl

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From chalsted at comcast.net  Wed Aug 20 09:30:20 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:30:20 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] nice clean used late Solexes for sale
Message-ID: <00db01c902d9$a8439550$9da07d18@craigscomputer>

just swapped into a set of late Solexes, complete with water tube, cable
stand, water outlet pipes including T, all but an air cleaner assembly. first
$1k offer owns it. they appear to be very clean, I'd probably bolt them on my
own car as is (if I hadn't sold it...)  also just picked up a 70 Caddy
Fleetwood convertible, it's available too.
Craig
Datsun Roadsters mostly...and a '40 Packard
http://community.webshots.com/user/672000

From chalsted at comcast.net  Wed Aug 20 10:07:19 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:07:19 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters, Keepers, and cars for sale
Message-ID: <00ff01c902de$d2cec010$9da07d18@craigscomputer>

I'm paring back to the cars I plan to keep and have a good few cars from my
collection available. keepers include but not limited to:
'54 Studebaker Coupe
40 Packard Super 8 Business Coupe
supercharged Datsun Roadster
one 67.5 2000
my dad's 85 El Camino
SPL213 purchased from Kerry

available:
70 Cadillac Fleetwood Convertible
Prototype 1500
SPL310-00003
SRL311-00006 and others
35k original mile 66 1600
20k original mile 68 1600
race roadsters
Volvo 122s Amazon
Lotus 7 kit racer project
76 GMC Eleganza II 26' motorhome, 41k miles
other roadsters

have until september 20th to raise about $10k to pay off the Packard...may
just go the collector car financing route.

if you have more time than money, can front out roadsters and you can make
payments if known to me or good references from folks known to me

even have some parts roadsters I'll GIVE away if you come pick them up... to
use for parts though, not to sell for scrap. I can do that myself...

have a couple fast boats for sale too.

sold the airplane already

Craig
Datsun Roadsters mostly...
http://community.webshots.com/user/672000

From tom at datsun2000.com  Wed Aug 20 10:15:27 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:15:27 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 67 1600 FS in Northern CA
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGAEIIDFAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

I have added a 67 1600 to the NOWROC For Sale page.  The car is located near
Placerville, California.  Give Bob a call if you are interested.

I have a few pictures on the link below.

http://www.nowroc.org/ForSale/bob_mcfarland.htm

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
http://www.nowroc.org

From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Wed Aug 20 11:19:49 2008
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (Nathaniel Leeds)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:19:49 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Maximum Advance and Octane -- how far can I go?
Message-ID: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOGEICNNAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>

Still tuning,

And now I'm starting to have evil urges. There's a little devil sitting on
my shoulder which wants me to buy a crate of octane boost and crank out my
advance (20+ degrees on my SU carb, Solex cam, U20). What is people's
experiance in this regard. How much maximum advance (mechanical + vacume)
can the U20 take on 91 octane, and then how much more can it take with a
little street-legal octane booster. I know there are standard formulas
depending on the engine, I just don't know what they are.

Also, does someone know where I can find the advance charts for the U20
distributors (plural because I know there are a couple of available curves,
and I don't yet know which mine is). I'd like to get a feeling for what my
maximum theoretical advance is without pissing off the neighbors by running
my engine at 6000 rpms.

Nathaniel Leeds
'69 2000 U20

From jover4x4 at aol.com  Wed Aug 20 11:43:07 2008
From: jover4x4 at aol.com (jover4x4 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:43:07 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Maximum Advance and Octane -- how far can I go?
In-Reply-To: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOGEICNNAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
References: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOGEICNNAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <8CAD103563E923E-F70-1D0D@WEBMAIL-NG14.sysops.aol.com>

Nathanial,

I had my Solex U20 on a dyno at 5000ft with regular gas and saw no appreciable hp difference between static timing settings of 15 and 20 DBTC.

Octane boost will allow more compression without detonation?however I don't believe it will?allow you much more power with just a timing change.? 

I.e. If you advance the timing too far you get into timing related pre-ignition not detonation.? I think the octane boost only helps on the latter.

I am looking for others to chime in here to confirm my thoughts, or to shoot me down if I need corrected.

John Over
Denver, CO


-----Original Message-----
From: Nathaniel Leeds <nmleeds at mindspring.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:19 am
Subject: [Roadsters] Maximum Advance and Octane -- how far can I go?



Still tuning,

And now I'm starting to have evil urges. There's a little devil sitting on
my shoulder which wants me to buy a crate of octane boost and crank out my
advance (20+ degrees on my SU carb, Solex cam, U20). What is people's
experiance in this regard. How much maximum advance (mechanical + vacume)
can the U20 take on 91 octane, and then how much more can it take with a
little street-legal octane booster. I know there are standard formulas
depending on the engine, I just don't know what they are.

Also, does someone know where I can find the advance charts for the U20
distributors (plural because I know there are a couple of available curves,
and I don't yet know which mine is). I'd like to get a feeling for what my
maximum theoretical advance is without pissing off the neighbors by running
my engine at 6000 rpms.

Nathaniel Leeds
'69 2000 U20
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From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Wed Aug 20 12:44:46 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:44:46 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Maximum Advance and Octane -- how far can I go?
In-Reply-To: <8CAD103563E923E-F70-1D0D@WEBMAIL-NG14.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <E1KVsfm-0004AO-HP@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

John said: I am looking for others to chime in here to confirm my thoughts,
or to shoot me down if I need corrected.

Bugs: Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home. 
Daffy: Shoot him now; shoot him now. 
Bugs: You keep outta this, he doesn't have to shoot you now. 
Daffy: Hah! That's it! Hold it right there! [to audience] Pronoun trouble.
[to Bugs] It's not "he doesn't have to shoot you now", it's "he doesn't have
to shoot me now" 
[Pause] 
Daffy: [angrily] Well, I say he does have to shoot me now!! [to Elmer] So
shoot me now! 
[Elmer obliges and lets him have it]

Hehehehe! Happy Wednesday!
Matt


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of jover4x4 at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 1:43 PM
To: nmleeds at mindspring.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Maximum Advance and Octane -- how far can I go?

Nathanial,

I had my Solex U20 on a dyno at 5000ft with regular gas and saw no
appreciable hp difference between static timing settings of 15 and 20 DBTC.

Octane boost will allow more compression without detonation?however I don't
believe it will?allow you much more power with just a timing change.? 

I.e. If you advance the timing too far you get into timing related
pre-ignition not detonation.? I think the octane boost only helps on the
latter.

I am looking for others to chime in here to confirm my thoughts, or to shoot
me down if I need corrected.

John Over
Denver, CO


-----Original Message-----
From: Nathaniel Leeds <nmleeds at mindspring.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:19 am
Subject: [Roadsters] Maximum Advance and Octane -- how far can I go?



Still tuning,

And now I'm starting to have evil urges. There's a little devil sitting on
my shoulder which wants me to buy a crate of octane boost and crank out my
advance (20+ degrees on my SU carb, Solex cam, U20). What is people's
experiance in this regard. How much maximum advance (mechanical + vacume)
can the U20 take on 91 octane, and then how much more can it take with a
little street-legal octane booster. I know there are standard formulas
depending on the engine, I just don't know what they are.

Also, does someone know where I can find the advance charts for the U20
distributors (plural because I know there are a couple of available curves,
and I don't yet know which mine is). I'd like to get a feeling for what my
maximum theoretical advance is without pissing off the neighbors by running
my engine at 6000 rpms.

Nathaniel Leeds
'69 2000 U20
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From razmataz at indy.net  Wed Aug 20 13:40:35 2008
From: razmataz at indy.net (Stan Rasmussen)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:40:35 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Dwell of 37 degrees - are my points shot?
In-Reply-To: <c9d.2e6dd1f1.35db7744@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0DC96BD736CD43F5A423340D7847658D@YOURCCFEA0C05A>

Nathaniel and all,
  I have a similar problem with my SRL311 but only after it gets hot, it
purrs and roars great for the first 20 minutes but then will start the
snap crackle popping and not run smooth at RPM's above 2.5k.  Also, what
is a good way to visibly mark and then interpret the timing marks, mine
has numerous notches but I can't determine which is what?  Thanks - Stan
in Indy

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+razmataz=indy.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+razmataz=indy.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Keith0alan at aol.com
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:09 PM
To: nmleeds at mindspring.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Dwell of 37 degrees - are my points shot?


Could be the rubbing block is worn out and you need new points.
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 8/18/2008 2:33:20 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
nmleeds at mindspring.com writes:

Still  adjusting the car after the long road trip and I'm starting to
wonder what's up with my points.  So here's the problem -- above 4500
rpm's, under any load, I'm getting the chinese fireworks out of the back
of  the tailpipe. My thought: maybe I don't have enough dwell; not
enough dwell  => not enough magnetic field => weak spark.  Right? So I
go to  check my dwell and it's a sorry 37 degrees. My attempts to bring
it up to  the 49-50 in spec. are rewarded with a car that doesn't start
at  all.

Who says this means that my points are shot; or, more  specifically,
that my foot is so shot that the geometry can't both give me  enough
dwell, and enough separation for a really nice spark.

I know  this means that I should be going away from points and
condensers and buy  an electric system, but I'm a poor, out of work,
attorney with  student loans and an expensive dry cleaning bill who
can't afford the  upgrade just yet.

Nathaniel Leeds
'69 2000  SU's





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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Aug 20 14:39:12 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:39:12 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Maximum Advance and Octane -- how far can I go?
Message-ID: <082020082039.21525.48AC80EF000DCF79000054152200734830CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net>

Wasn't there something in a previous post about an out-of-work lawyer? I'd be considering an EI dizzy before octane boost, lower mpg, and possible discussions with the local gendarmes.

Just sayin...

Pete "who remembers putting Sunoco 260 in his Suzuki 250....ZOOM! ZOOM!"

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Nathaniel Leeds" <nmleeds at mindspring.com>
> Still tuning,
> 
> And now I'm starting to have evil urges. There's a little devil sitting on
> my shoulder which wants me to buy a crate of octane boost and crank out my
> advance (20+ degrees on my SU carb, Solex cam, U20). What is people's
> experiance in this regard. How much maximum advance (mechanical + vacume)
> can the U20 take on 91 octane, and then how much more can it take with a
> little street-legal octane booster. I know there are standard formulas
> depending on the engine, I just don't know what they are.
> 
> Also, does someone know where I can find the advance charts for the U20
> distributors (plural because I know there are a couple of available curves,
> and I don't yet know which mine is). I'd like to get a feeling for what my
> maximum theoretical advance is without pissing off the neighbors by running
> my engine at 6000 rpms.
> 
> Nathaniel Leeds
> '69 2000 U20
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From oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 20 14:49:35 2008
From: oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com (Matthew Cox)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:49:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Port & Polish
Message-ID: <86729.32144.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hey everyone!  I need to finally get my engine back together because I am
moving to Philly and would rather move a car instead of boxes of parts (and
I'm probably not going to have a garage for a while).
 
Anyhoo, I need to get some head work done first and am thinking about getting
it ported.  Does anyone have any tips/advise about this? Also, a couple of
months ago someone on the list recommended someone to me, but I have since
forgotten who and have misplaced the email. Sorry!
 
Anyone who has done this have something to share?
 
Matthew...
 
 
 
 

From oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 20 14:52:24 2008
From: oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com (Matthew Cox)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:52:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Port & Polish
In-Reply-To: <86729.32144.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <411994.93434.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Oh, I forgot... the engine is a stock '67 1600 with a slightly larger cam
and I am in Phoenix but I would be happy to ship the head to someone good...
Local could also be nice.


Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 1:49 PM

Hey everyone!  I need to finally get my engine back together because I am
moving to Philly and would rather move a car instead of boxes of parts (and
I'm probably not going to have a garage for a while).

Anyhoo, I need to get some head work done first and am thinking about getting
it ported.  Does anyone have any tips/advise about this? Also, a couple of
months ago someone on the list recommended someone to me, but I have since
forgotten who and have misplaced the email. Sorry!

Anyone who has done this have something to share?

Matthew...

From fell.herdeg at soundprints.com  Wed Aug 20 15:07:42 2008
From: fell.herdeg at soundprints.com (Fell Herdeg)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:07:42 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Port & Polish
In-Reply-To: <86729.32144.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <86729.32144.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <018301c90308$c991d850$dd01a8c0@spdomain.local>

Hi Matthew, where are you located?


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+fell.herdeg=soundprints.com at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Matthew Cox
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:50 PM
To: roadster list
Subject: [Roadsters] Port & Polish

Hey everyone!  I need to finally get my engine back together because I am
moving to Philly and would rather move a car instead of boxes of parts (and
I'm probably not going to have a garage for a while).
 
Anyhoo, I need to get some head work done first and am thinking about
getting
it ported.  Does anyone have any tips/advise about this? Also, a couple of
months ago someone on the list recommended someone to me, but I have since
forgotten who and have misplaced the email. Sorry!
 
Anyone who has done this have something to share?
 
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From chalsted at comcast.net  Wed Aug 20 15:19:56 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:19:56 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] more new pix on my webshots site
Message-ID: <008201c9030a$7f1c7ee0$9da07d18@craigscomputer>

just added a few new albums, primarily the 40 Packard and the 70 Caddy
convertible. also just got in some front fenders for a '70 roadster if
anyone's needing them. picked up an old hit and miss engine yesterday too :-)
Craig
Datsun Roadsters mostly...
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From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Wed Aug 20 17:25:45 2008
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:25:45 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Valve Spring Compressors
Message-ID: <009f01c9031c$12d1b270$6500a8c0@LAP120>

I'm trying to use a valve spring compressor to remove the valves and springs
from a 1600 head. The head is already off the engine and sitting on the
bench.
There are several types of spring compressors for this task. I'm trying to use
the kind that has "little jaws" that are inserted in between the coils near
the bottom of the spring and then a knob is turned on the other end to
compress the spring. It compresses the outer spring, but it looks like there
is no compression of the inner spring and this is keeping the retainer and
collets still locked onto the valve stem. Any advice, tricks, or tips for
using this tool or should I get the C-clamp type? It looks like that works in
a different way and would probably do the job a lot easier.
As usual, thanks in advance,
Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker / 5-speed

From sandhoff at csus.edu  Wed Aug 20 17:52:21 2008
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:52:21 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Valve Spring Compressors
In-Reply-To: <009f01c9031c$12d1b270$6500a8c0@LAP120>
Message-ID: <48AC4BC5.16366.1D5096C@localhost>

> I'm trying to use a valve spring compressor... I'm trying to use
> the kind that has "little jaws" that are inserted in between the coils
> near the bottom of the spring... It compresses the outer spring, but
> it looks like there is no compression of the inner spring...

Correct observation.

> should I get the C-clamp type?

Yup, unless you love frustration :-)

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From Mgeatti at NCUA.GOV  Wed Aug 20 18:03:37 2008
From: Mgeatti at NCUA.GOV (Geatti, Marco)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:03:37 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] correct oil weight oil to use
Message-ID: <E48AAF25BBCD594499004B5E55035DAC0259D624@HQNCUATHING1CL1.ncua.lan>

I have a 1969 Roadster 1600. Engine is fairly tight, doesn't seem to
burn any oil. What weight of oil should I be using? I looked at the
manual and it had a range of 10w to 30w depending on climate. I bought
some 10w30 on the weekend but wondered what everyone else is using. I've
heard some using 15w40. Any input would be appreciated.



Thanks M.

From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 20 18:19:32 2008
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:19:32 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] correct oil weight oil to use
In-Reply-To: <E48AAF25BBCD594499004B5E55035DAC0259D624@HQNCUATHING1CL1.ncua.lan>
References: <E48AAF25BBCD594499004B5E55035DAC0259D624@HQNCUATHING1CL1.ncua.lan>
Message-ID: <b0b0059f0808201719y209fad19v3dc9a6fd05f9deb4@mail.gmail.com>

I have a 1966 1600 with the H20 in it, I use a 15w/40 Synthetic Blend. Seems
to work good for me. Runs great.




On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Geatti, Marco <Mgeatti at ncua.gov> wrote:

> I have a 1969 Roadster 1600. Engine is fairly tight, doesn't seem to
> burn any oil. What weight of oil should I be using? I looked at the
> manual and it had a range of 10w to 30w depending on climate. I bought
> some 10w30 on the weekend but wondered what everyone else is using. I've
> heard some using 15w40. Any input would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks M.
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This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one.

If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky
enough.

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Wed Aug 20 18:20:23 2008
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:20:23 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] correct oil weight oil to use
References: <E48AAF25BBCD594499004B5E55035DAC0259D624@HQNCUATHING1CL1.ncua.lan>
Message-ID: <003b01c90323$b463d530$6500a8c0@Daryl>

Many are running 15w40 or 20w50. You want to find oil with the zinc and 
phosphorous content still in it for the valve train, or get some additive 
for older engines.

Cheers
Daryl

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Geatti, Marco" <Mgeatti at NCUA.GOV>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 5:03 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] correct oil weight oil to use


>I have a 1969 Roadster 1600. Engine is fairly tight, doesn't seem to
> burn any oil. What weight of oil should I be using? I looked at the
> manual and it had a range of 10w to 30w depending on climate. I bought
> some 10w30 on the weekend but wondered what everyone else is using. I've
> heard some using 15w40. Any input would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks M.

From aultgc at att.net  Wed Aug 20 19:09:04 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:09:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] correct oil weight oil to use
Message-ID: <112886.70927.qm@web83829.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Marco,
Since I only drive my roadsters in warm weather, I use 20W50 Castrol. 
When I ran one car in the winter, I used 10W50.
Gary


----- Original Message
----
From: "Geatti, Marco" <Mgeatti at NCUA.GOV>
To:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:03:37 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] correct oil weight oil to use

I have a 1969 Roadster
1600. Engine is fairly tight, doesn't seem to
burn any oil. What weight of oil
should I be using? I looked at the
manual and it had a range of 10w to 30w
depending on climate. I bought
some 10w30 on the weekend but wondered what
everyone else is using. I've
heard some using 15w40. Any input would be
appreciated.



Thanks M.
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From graemes at internode.on.net  Wed Aug 20 19:50:53 2008
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:20:53 +0930
Subject: [Roadsters] Valve Spring Compressors
In-Reply-To: <009f01c9031c$12d1b270$6500a8c0@LAP120>
References: <009f01c9031c$12d1b270$6500a8c0@LAP120>
Message-ID: <000301c90330$5ad609e0$236fa8c0@desktop>

"should I get the C-clamp type? It looks like that works in a different way
and would probably do the job a lot easier."

Hi Mike, 
I used a large "C" clamp with a horse shoe shaped 1" length of tubing [one
side cut away] which gave enough room to remove/insert the retaining
colletts.
Still the quickest, easiest and cheapest method I have found!
Word of advice.
With the head on a flat surface, place a small wood pad under the face of
each pair of valves in the combustion chamber and using a hollow tube tap
each retainer with a hammer.
This will assist in breaking the colletts free so they can be lifted out
when you compress the springs.
A pair of needle nose pliers or tweezers and a strong magnet are handy to
have too.
Good luck!

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Wed Aug 20 21:19:02 2008
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:19:02 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Maximum Advance and Octane -- how far can I go?
In-Reply-To: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOGEICNNAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <009901c9033c$aa58fed0$6800a8c0@delled48909442>

General engine theory, about 35 deg is the max for a "normal" car.
Beyond a certain point, the cylinder pressure starts building on the
compression stroke and pushes the piston backward, reducing power.
Maximum advance is not always a power adder.  MSD makes a variable
timing control, gives you a dial on the dash to play and move the base
timing as you drive.  They also make electronic advance boxes, you lock
out the timing and the box does the entire advance curve.
The race guys should know the upper limit. Jover's dyno results may be
an indication.

Here's what I have found on my U20.  Don't know if you have covered
these items yet.

Alot can be done with carb oil, for example, mine pings badly with
Marvel Mystery, is fine with ATF.  The SU's like less initial advance
than Solex, and a vac advance is said to help acceleration, and is not
really too active at WOT. Dean had a customer with high compression and
other mods, ran very little initial timing and then 20+ deg mechanical
advance. Odd, but worked for him.

Personal opinion, hopefully unbiased, first get a strong, accurate
spark, then play.  I recommend an electronic ignition(anybody's, not
just mine) and/or a CD, like an MSD. Good wires and proper heat range
plugs are also a must.

If your carburetor shafts are at all worn, or mixture inaccurate, also
fix that first, lean and advanced is a bad combination.

Make small steps, keep us informed

Dave Brisco

-----Original Message-----
From: Nathaniel Leeds [mailto:nmleeds at mindspring.com] 
 Still tuning,

And now I'm starting to have evil urges. There's a little devil sitting
on
my shoulder which wants me to buy a crate of octane boost and crank out
my
advance (20+ degrees on my SU carb, Solex cam, U20). What is people's
experiance in this regard. How much maximum advance (mechanical +
vacume)
can the U20 take on 91 octane, and then how much more can it take with a
little street-legal octane booster. I know there are standard formulas
depending on the engine, I just don't know what they are.

Also, does someone know where I can find the advance charts for the U20
distributors (plural because I know there are a couple of available
curves,
and I don't yet know which mine is). I'd like to get a feeling for what
my
maximum theoretical advance is without pissing off the neighbors by
running
my engine at 6000 rpms.

Nathaniel Leeds
'69 2000 U20

From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Thu Aug 21 09:25:03 2008
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (MH)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:25:03 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Valve Spring Compressor- kinda long - sorry
Message-ID: <001a01c903a2$16082e70$6500a8c0@LAP120>

Thanks to all who replied and to those who meant to, but didn't get around to
it, LOL! , on my request for input on valve spring removal tools. I'm going to
"spring"   (get it?!)   for a C-clamp style valve spring compressor. I knew
all along this was what I needed. I just thought that the "cool" factor of a
tool that I could:

1) fit in my tool box

2) and allow future valve stem seal R/R without cylinder head removal

was the ideal choice.

After my own brief experience with the compact style tool, I've decided that
having to remove the head for this task even if it's just for a valve seal
replacement is not a big deal for me. After owning and rebuilding over 30
Volvo 4-cyl engines, I can say, that the only service I've ever shopped out
was: block honing / boring, crank grinding / polishing, my recent roadster cam
regrind, and obviously cylinder head / valve train inspection / rehab.

I've rebuilt two 4-speed and one 5-speed roadster transmissions from a book.
Yeah, I can't believe it either, but after 3000 miles, the stroked 1600 and
5-speed are steady and strong. I did have the air cleaner housing come loose
one evening, a block from home. I thought, "Here we go, I knew some weakness
on this rebuild was going to pop-up, it always does eventually, right? Of
course, it was no big deal. I've learned a long time ago to keep my eye out
after a rebuild / repair, for stuff like leaks and noises, very frequently
until the car and I develop a close, intimate, and respectfull relationship.
This "little thing" got by me! Details, details, right?

I know some of you out there know what I mean. Regretfully, I just don't know
who you are!  LOL! ! ! ! .

Any...WAY!

I digress. I'll buy the right tool for the job, Sears has it for $20. I'll add
it to my collection, and list this task as another diy way to circumvent the
system of "depending on the "MAN"!

Did that make sense at all? LOL!

Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker / 5-speed

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Thu Aug 21 12:34:42 2008
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:34:42 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] R16 - How to get .425" Valve lift?
Message-ID: <002101c903bc$94bbf250$6500a8c0@Daryl>

No answers to the last question so let me put it another way......

How do I get .425" Valve lift on an aluminum R16 head.
I had a cam with .387" lift which crushed the seals (exhaust only) and wanted
to increase the lift if I could without too much difficulty.


Anyone have any tips on whats involved? Any way to do it without custom made
parts?

Any advice appreciated!!

Daryl

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Thu Aug 21 12:43:36 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:43:36 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Valve Spring Compressor- kinda long - sorry
In-Reply-To: <001a01c903a2$16082e70$6500a8c0@LAP120>
Message-ID: <E1KWF8B-0008GZ-Ns@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi Mike,
You are correct about the "cool factor" of that little spring compressor.
Every time I walk into my bedroom, I'm surprised how "cool" that little door
stop is! Not a scratch on it, just a little dust. 
Not being familiar with the 1600 head, I decided not to add my 2 x $0.01
before. 

The Craftsman $20.00 c-clamp one is fine, even if it is a little more flimsy
than most the Craftsman tools I own. On a U20 head, I would have had to
remove the cam to even TRY to use the "compact" one. In my case, the cam did
not come out of the head, so I now have both types. (Thanks to my Dad, I
don't believe in returning tools I purchase, even if they're the wrong
one... I may need it SOMEDAY! HEHEHE) :-)

If I ever "realize" my adolescent dream of "THE DAT-STANG", a 1968 Roadster
with a 351 Windsor Ford V8 & Paxton Supercharger, I'll have just the right
tool to remove the valve springs. (sigh)

On the up side, since the c-clamp type is larger, you now have an excuse to
buy that big ol' rolling tool chest that you just haven't been able to
convince the wife that you actually NEED!!!!! You know the one... with the
5.1 Dolby surround sound stereo, LCD big screen TV, and refrigerator!!!

Drop the top, but use (Dat) sun screen! :-)
Matt Smith (Chattanooga TN) & Loreli (she's a Silver 1970 Solex 2000)

From RWM at RWMann.com  Thu Aug 21 14:55:57 2008
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:55:57 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Paul Newman on his last Lap
Message-ID: <48ADD65D.8020902@RWMann.com>

[Forwarding for the NER SCCA list to those who may be interested.]


Paul Newman says goodbye to Lime Rock

http://www.trackpedia.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4485

http://www.apexspeed.com/forums/showpost.php?p=183665&postcount=1


>From the link in above thread:


"LimeRock was closed today, Wednesday [Aug 20] for an hour and a half so 
Paul Newman could take a few last laps there in his GT1 Corvette and say 
goodbye. He was diagnosed with cancer 18 months ago and is not expected 
to make it past September."


PLN raced a black and gold "customer" 510 prepared by Bob Sharp Racing, 
beginning in 1972, a few years after BSR made the Roadster to Z and 510 
transition.  He went on to drive the wildest and fastest rides that BSR 
and other entrants would field, was a consistent contender in amateur 
and professional racing series, and later, an owner and entrant himself.

He and Joanne were fixtures in the Lime Rock paddock and down home 
favorites with track workers and fellow competitors.  He's a gentleman, 
an accomplished driver and professional, a philanthropist of the first 
order, and he will be sorely missed at his final checkered flag.

From rksmith46 at hotmail.com  Thu Aug 21 19:36:32 2008
From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:36:32 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] R16 - How to get .425" Valve lift?
In-Reply-To: <002101c903bc$94bbf250$6500a8c0@Daryl>
References: <002101c903bc$94bbf250$6500a8c0@Daryl>
Message-ID: <BAY124-W5984E08103DAF7C1B3DC42BF6A0@phx.gbl>

hi daryl, i had a cam in my u-20 eng. with .620 lift. i had to

remove the valve seals to prevent the retainer from hitting anything.

i was prepared to machine some off of the bottom of the retainer,

if need be, but didnt need that. i didnt notice any excess smoking or

oil consumption(no more than is normal). my valve guides were in

good shape, fairly new, but not brand new. hope this helps.

                                   bob smith
69 srl 311
                                   70 chev elcamino ss> From:
drlsmith at dccnet.com> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Thu, 21 Aug
2008 11:34:42 -0700> Subject: [Roadsters] R16 - How to get .425" Valve lift?>
> No answers to the last question so let me put it another way......> > How do
I get .425" Valve lift on an aluminum R16 head.> I had a cam with .387" lift
which crushed the seals (exhaust only) and wanted> to increase the lift if I
could without too much difficulty.> > > Anyone have any tips on whats
involved? Any way to do it without custom made> parts?> > Any advice
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From rksmith46 at hotmail.com  Thu Aug 21 21:08:26 2008
From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:08:26 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Port & Polish
In-Reply-To: <86729.32144.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <86729.32144.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY124-W2357C00492CE25E38543CFBF6A0@phx.gbl>

hi matthew, when you match ports, you can use a new intake gasket

for a template, putting it up to the head, then the intake and exh.

scribe lines on the head (intake), and the header(exh.). if you cant

match them exactly, remember the flow is smaller to larger. never

larger to smaller. you can polish the exh. all you want, but just

smoothe the casting marks out of the intake-dont polish the intake

til shiny. it will screw up the intake fuel mixture. fuel will drop out

of suspension and stick to the intake walls. the intake needs to be

a little rough, to keep the fuel in the air mix.  also, 3 angle cuts on

valve seats are a good performance thing.

if you are building the eng., you could do the porting

and polishing yourself, and have a macine shop do the valve job.
                    good luck, bob smith                                   69
srl311
                                   70 chev elcamino ss

<> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:49:35 -0700> From: oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com> To:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] Port & Polish> > Hey
everyone! I need to finally get my engine back together because I am> moving
to Philly and would rather move a car instead of boxes of parts (and> I'm
probably not going to have a garage for a while).> > Anyhoo, I need to get
some head work done first and am thinking about getting> it ported. Does
anyone have any tips/advise about this? Also, a couple of> months ago someone
on the list recommended someone to me, but I have since> forgotten who and
have misplaced the email. Sorry!> > Anyone who has done this have something to
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Thu Aug 21 23:29:03 2008
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:29:03 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Dwell of 37 degrees - are my points shot?
In-Reply-To: <0DC96BD736CD43F5A423340D7847658D@YOURCCFEA0C05A>
References: <c9d.2e6dd1f1.35db7744@aol.com>
	<0DC96BD736CD43F5A423340D7847658D@YOURCCFEA0C05A>
Message-ID: <000501c90417$fdbef940$f93cebc0$@net>

If you're talking about the timing marks on the crank vibration damper, the
easiest thing to do is clean them off thoroughly with brake cleaner and then
rub some white tire marker into the notches. Carefully wipe off the excess
from the outer surface of the damper, and you'll have nice bright marks to
see with your timing light.

The big one is TDC and the others are 5-10-15-20 degrees before TDC.

Gordon Glasgow
-----Original Message-----
snap crackle popping and not run smooth at RPM's above 2.5k.  Also, what
is a good way to visibly mark and then interpret the timing marks, mine
has numerous notches but I can't determine which is what?  Thanks - Stan
in Indy

From etroxel at gmail.com  Fri Aug 22 09:20:49 2008
From: etroxel at gmail.com (evan troxel)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:20:49 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] roadster sighting & fairlady/z/510 concept cars
Message-ID: <5c303ea40808220820x230b4499vbfe51d0cca5e3f60@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Spotted a nice looking white roadster heading west on the 210 freeway
at 7:15ish this morning in southern california. anyone out there?

also, i wanted to share a couple of web pages that have some
impressive imagery having to do with nissan/datsun as of late:

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/30/design-student-dreams-up-a-datsun-revival/

this one is great:

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/08/20/design-study-nissan-240-fairlady-z-successor/

--evan

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Fri Aug 22 15:33:09 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:33:09 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] update of "Setting up and adjusting SU/Hitachi carbs on
 the Datsun Roadster"
Message-ID: <bc6.2ee6a93d.35e08a95@aol.com>

Hello all,
 
Did some work on the web site. Same link, updated content.
 
 
_Setting up  and adjusting SU/Hitachi carbs on the Datsun Roadster_ 
(http://members.aol.com/roadsterranch/su-setup/su-setup.html)  
 
keith "the slow carb guy" williams



**************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel 
deal here.      
(http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

From geegc at aol.com  Fri Aug 22 15:47:37 2008
From: geegc at aol.com (geegc at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:47:37 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 Carbs wanted, solex or SU
Message-ID: <8CAD2B7D3D41A4A-FC8-4241@webmail-db11.sysops.aol.com>

I am very frustrated.  My black 1968 2000 runs with old-style Solex 
carbs which have been a never-ending source of trouble.  They have been 
sent back east to a list member for rebuilding and still do not work 
properly.  The front carb continues to leak and does not idle probably. 
  My mechanic, Skip Miller, is beside himself and would like to get the 
car out of the shop after four months.

The problem has to be with these carbs because the car runs fabulously 
well with a borrowed set of SUs.

Does anyone have an old-style Solex carburetor (I only need the front 
one) that they want to sell?

Does anyone have a full set of 2000 SU carbs in good working condition 
that they would like to sell?

Does anyone want to buy a B cam Solex car with a bad front carb?

Gary C
Los Angeles

From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 22 18:47:12 2008
From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:47:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Off to the paint booth
In-Reply-To: <b0b0059f0808220758j5e611030ifc812fee87a84c2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <769173.33824.qm@web53502.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Just relax.  She'll be beautiful on Tuesday and it'll feel like you're getting
a brand new car!
Hang in there, Dad!
Patti


--- On Fri, 8/22/08, Chris & Christy Breyer <fairlady66 at gmail.com> wrote:
From: Chris & Christy Breyer <fairlady66 at gmail.com>
Subject: Off to the paint booth
To: socalroc at gmail.com
Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 7:58 AM

Hey you guys,
Here are a few pictures of the Roadster right before it left to the paint
booth.  Amazing how much body work you find to do once the car is striped
down.  I had to cut a piece of fender off of another roadster fender and weld
it on to mine to fix cancer. I should have the rest of my chrome back today
and the car should be ready to be put back together next weekend. Glad it is a
three day weekend, I am going to need it to finish this up.  I am a little
over budget and still need $350 to finalize what I want to do to it.    But
such is life with cars.

 
When I was leaving the paint shop I looked back at the Roadster and felt like
I was leaving my first born at day care for the first time.
 
Last night I found myself staring at a very messy, empty garage.
 
I am told it will be done and back on Tuesday.  (Sigh..) It's going to be a
long weekend...

Talk to you soon,

Chris
 

--
'66 1600
Riverside, CA
------------------------------------------------------
This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one.

If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky
enough.

From rksmith46 at hotmail.com  Fri Aug 22 19:59:20 2008
From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:59:20 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 Carbs wanted, solex or SU
In-Reply-To: <8CAD2B7D3D41A4A-FC8-4241@webmail-db11.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CAD2B7D3D41A4A-FC8-4241@webmail-db11.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY124-W20C75F31BD0C78DF7F1DA1BF650@phx.gbl>

hi gary, hang in there- and when(not if) you get it
sorted out, it will be worth it all. remember, it will
still do 100mph in third, with su carbs. it just takes
tick longer to reach it. ive never liked the solexes
for the street. you get great top end, but you cant
beat the low and mid-range, and over all drivability
 the su's give. you can still get an extra set of su
needles and  re-contour the middle part of the needle
to give a little more ommph.
 good luck,      bob smith, ohio
                      69 srl311
>> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:47:37 -0400>
From: geegc at aol.com> Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 Carbs wanted, solex or SU> > I
am very frustrated. My black 1968 2000 runs with old-style Solex > carbs which
have been a never-ending source of trouble. They have been > sent back east to
a list member for rebuilding and still do not work > properly. The front carb
continues to leak and does not idle probably. > My mechanic, Skip Miller, is
beside himself and would like to get the > car out of the shop after four
months.> > The problem has to be with these carbs because the car runs
fabulously > well with a borrowed set of SUs.> > Does anyone have an old-style
Solex carburetor (I only need the front > one) that they want to sell?> > Does
anyone have a full set of 2000 SU carbs in good working condition > that they
would like to sell?> > Does anyone want to buy a B cam Solex car with a bad
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From stebharvey at ameritech.net  Sat Aug 23 07:46:56 2008
From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (Steve Harvey)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 06:46:56 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Electrical question
Message-ID: <000001c90526$b5a75bb0$20f61310$@net>

My front side lights on my 1970 1600 are not working so I looked at the
electrical schematics that I have and much to my surprise the front and rear
sidelights are not shown. The "older" schematic shows rear sidelights.
Problem 2 is that I have no dash lights when I turn on the lights. Also, I
always thought that the yellow front lights should come on in both
positions.

 

 

Steve Harvey

From tputland at charter.net  Sat Aug 23 08:57:52 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 7:57:52 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Electrical question--similar here
In-Reply-To: <000001c90526$b5a75bb0$20f61310$@net>
Message-ID: <20080823105752.Z5387.313472.root@mp15>

I have no solution, but my dash lights are very dim. Any ideas here any one?
--


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- Steve Harvey <stebharvey at ameritech.net> wrote: 

=============
My front side lights on my 1970 1600 are not working so I looked at the
electrical schematics that I have and much to my surprise the front and rear
sidelights are not shown. The "older" schematic shows rear sidelights.
Problem 2 is that I have no dash lights when I turn on the lights. Also, I
always thought that the yellow front lights should come on in both
positions.

 

 

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From tom at datsun2000.com  Sat Aug 23 09:02:42 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:02:42 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Electrical question
In-Reply-To: <000001c90526$b5a75bb0$20f61310$@net>
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGKEIPDFAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

Steve,

I have a schematic of the 69 roadster on the electrical section of my
datsun2000.com TECH page.  311s.org should also have complete schematics for
various years.

I looked at my '69 schematic and found the GL wire is connected to the side
marker and front parking lights.  That wire is sourced out of the light
switch, and the power for that switch comes from a 10 Amp fuse in your glove
box on the GW wire.  I would start there and see if that is all there is to
your problem.  With a little luck you have a blown 10 Amp fuse.

The fuse locations on the schematic are in the same location as their
location in the fuse holder, so finding the correct fuse should not be too
difficult.

You are right about these lights working in either of the two ON positions
of the headlight switch.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Steve Harvey
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 6:47 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Electrical question


My front side lights on my 1970 1600 are not working so I looked at the
electrical schematics that I have and much to my surprise the front and rear
sidelights are not shown. The "older" schematic shows rear sidelights.
Problem 2 is that I have no dash lights when I turn on the lights. Also, I
always thought that the yellow front lights should come on in both
positions.





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From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Sat Aug 23 09:02:26 2008
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:02:26 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Electrical question--similar here
References: <20080823105752.Z5387.313472.root@mp15>
Message-ID: <000d01c90531$61b41ce0$6415a8c0@Ranteer.local>

i have always figured that these lights are tough enough to read at full. 
why would anyone want to dim them???

bypass the dimmer . . .

that's what i do.  the dimmer switch is purely for looks!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>
To: "Steve Harvey" <stebharvey at ameritech.net>; 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Electrical question--similar here


>I have no solution, but my dash lights are very dim. Any ideas here any 
>one?
> --
>
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
>
> ---- Steve Harvey <stebharvey at ameritech.net> wrote:
>
> =============
> My front side lights on my 1970 1600 are not working so I looked at the
> electrical schematics that I have and much to my surprise the front and 
> rear
> sidelights are not shown. The "older" schematic shows rear sidelights.
> Problem 2 is that I have no dash lights when I turn on the lights. Also, I
> always thought that the yellow front lights should come on in both
> positions.

From tputland at charter.net  Sat Aug 23 10:38:36 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 9:38:36 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Electrical question--similar here
In-Reply-To: <000d01c90531$61b41ce0$6415a8c0@Ranteer.local>
Message-ID: <20080823123836.YKO59.413930.root@fepweb13>

What dimmer? If I may be clueless again....
--


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- Oliver <sumton at sbcglobal.net> wrote: 

=============
i have always figured that these lights are tough enough to read at full. 
why would anyone want to dim them???

bypass the dimmer . . .

that's what i do.  the dimmer switch is purely for looks!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>
To: "Steve Harvey" <stebharvey at ameritech.net>; 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Electrical question--similar here


>I have no solution, but my dash lights are very dim. Any ideas here any 
>one?
> --
>
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
>
> ---- Steve Harvey <stebharvey at ameritech.net> wrote:
>
> =============
> My front side lights on my 1970 1600 are not working so I looked at the
> electrical schematics that I have and much to my surprise the front and 
> rear
> sidelights are not shown. The "older" schematic shows rear sidelights.
> Problem 2 is that I have no dash lights when I turn on the lights. Also, I
> always thought that the yellow front lights should come on in both
> positions.
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From graemes at internode.on.net  Sat Aug 23 19:00:40 2008
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:30:40 +0930
Subject: [Roadsters] Electrical question--similar here
In-Reply-To: <20080823123836.YKO59.413930.root@fepweb13>
References: <000d01c90531$61b41ce0$6415a8c0@Ranteer.local>
	<20080823123836.YKO59.413930.root@fepweb13>
Message-ID: <000601c90584$d628cd70$236fa8c0@desktop>

The 69-70 SPL/SRL were supposed to have a dash light dimmer fitted.
Have a look at this link: - http://tinyurl.com/5cbgw2
Look at the bottom right corner of the schematic and you'll see it.
It is mounted on the dash panel.

"What dimmer? If I may be clueless again...."

From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 23 19:13:25 2008
From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:13:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Electrical question--similar here
In-Reply-To: <000601c90584$d628cd70$236fa8c0@desktop>
Message-ID: <379753.22266.qm@web63706.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Most important thing with wiring:  Don't let the smoke out, or something will stop working.

Mike SC (used to have british sports cars) ;-)




--- On Sat, 8/23/08, Graeme <graemes at internode.on.net> wrote:

> From: Graeme <graemes at internode.on.net>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Electrical question--similar here
> To: "'Tim'" <tputland at charter.net>, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net, "'Oliver'" <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
> Date: Saturday, August 23, 2008, 9:00 PM
> The 69-70 SPL/SRL were supposed to have a dash light dimmer
> fitted.
> Have a look at this link: - http://tinyurl.com/5cbgw2
> Look at the bottom right corner of the schematic and
> you'll see it.
> It is mounted on the dash panel.
> 
> "What dimmer? If I may be clueless again...."
> ________________________________________

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Sat Aug 23 22:07:56 2008
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:07:56 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] R16 - How to get .425" Valve lift?
References: <002101c903bc$94bbf250$6500a8c0@Daryl>
Message-ID: <002201c9059e$fdd7cdc0$6500a8c0@Daryl>

Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. And thanks to Steve and Jim on 
311s.org for sending me to the competition prep manual. 
http://www.datsun.org/roadster/info/sharp1600.pdf
They mention going as high as .480" valve lift, trimming the stands to keep 
the geometry correct, and shortening the pushrods, but nothing about the 
seals....?

Of couse Walter Peterson told me much of this already, but I thought there 
had to be a better/cheaper/less complicated way.....Silly me.....

Don't know if they used seals (been suggested leaving them out) or went to a 
different type of seal...Chevy/Porsche. . .?   or Custom made as Walter 
pointed out?

Thanks
Daryl


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daryl Smith" <drlsmith at dccnet.com>
To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:34 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] R16 - How to get .425" Valve lift?


> No answers to the last question so let me put it another way......
>
> How do I get .425" Valve lift on an aluminum R16 head.
> I had a cam with .387" valve lift which crushed the seals (exhaust only) 
> and wanted
> to increase the lift if I could without too much difficulty.
>
>
> Anyone have any tips on whats involved? Any way to do it without custom 
> made
> parts?
>
> Any advice appreciated!!
>
> Daryl

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From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 24 07:35:42 2008
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:35:42 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Another Datsun
Message-ID: <b0b0059f0808240635p43f14695oac9f0bb7e1ee2679@mail.gmail.com>

Now that the Roadster is getting painted my wife figured I needed another
project car. However she wanted a truck (no argument, we need one). However
we decided we wanted to get a vintage truck and since I like Datsuns, I got
HER a 1970 L521.  Nice little truck, it needs some interior work and little
body work. Left Fender needs some attention. I will be needing to find a
grill, if any one has knowledge of where I can find parts for this I would
appreciate some sharing of that knowledge.

The only thing about this truck I have to find a way of correcting is this:
I am 6'1" and I fit ok in my '66 Roadster, but this pick up... GEEZ! That
wheel is too close to my chest for comfort.  It is fun to drive though, but
it aint a Roadster :o)

Chris

-- 
'66 1600
Riverside, CA
------------------------------------------------------
This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one.

If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky
enough.

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sun Aug 24 08:20:47 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 07:20:47 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] OT: L520/521 parts (was "RE: Another Datsun")
In-Reply-To: <b0b0059f0808240635p43f14695oac9f0bb7e1ee2679@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b0b0059f0808240635p43f14695oac9f0bb7e1ee2679@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C3D41CD863C846E3808AE71B9248C766@xp>

Chris,

If you think a 520/521 is tight, try a 320! <g> For parts, check out

Old Datsun Pickup Lovers
<http://www.olddatsunpickuplovers.com/>

Ratsun.net
<http://www.ratsun.net>

                    `  ___  '   
Pete               -  (O o)  -  
------------------ooO--(_)--Ooo----
Lake Forest Park, WA
1966 1600 SPL311
1966 L20B WPL411
1971 1.7L Porsche 914
plus 2 cars, a truck & a motorcycle

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Chris & Christy Breyer
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 6:36 AM
To: Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net
Subject: [Roadsters] Another Datsun

[snip]

However we decided we wanted to get a vintage truck and since I like
Datsuns, I got HER a 1970 L521.  Nice little truck, it needs some interior
work and little body work. Left Fender needs some attention. I will be
needing to find a grill, if any one has knowledge of where I can find parts
for this I would appreciate some sharing of that knowledge.

From jdwilly at sbcglobal.net  Sun Aug 24 08:55:14 2008
From: jdwilly at sbcglobal.net (JOEL WILMSMEYER)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 07:55:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Another Datsun
In-Reply-To: <b0b0059f0808240635p43f14695oac9f0bb7e1ee2679@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <219043.14122.qm@web82802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Take a look at the frame and suspension, compare it to the Roadster, and tell me which one is the truck from looking up. About the only thing to give it away would be the transmission tunnel, You're right, it isn't a Roadster, but they have a lot in common; parts as well as design.
   
  Joel

Chris & Christy Breyer <fairlady66 at gmail.com> wrote:
  Now that the Roadster is getting painted my wife figured I needed another
project car. However she wanted a truck (no argument, we need one). However
we decided we wanted to get a vintage truck and since I like Datsuns, I got
HER a 1970 L521. Nice little truck, it needs some interior work and little
body work. Left Fender needs some attention. I will be needing to find a
grill, if any one has knowledge of where I can find parts for this I would
appreciate some sharing of that knowledge.

The only thing about this truck I have to find a way of correcting is this:
I am 6'1" and I fit ok in my '66 Roadster, but this pick up... GEEZ! That
wheel is too close to my chest for comfort. It is fun to drive though, but
it aint a Roadster :o)

Chris

-- 
'66 1600
Riverside, CA
------------------------------------------------------
This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one.

If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky
enough.
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From 12061997 at comcast.net  Sun Aug 24 11:19:56 2008
From: 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:19:56 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] center console
Message-ID: <082420081719.6504.48B1983C000EE909000019682205886172C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net>

Hi List, Does anyone have a center console that will fit a 67-1600 they would like to sell? thanks, bob ballinger, MuncieIN

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sun Aug 24 12:29:45 2008
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:29:45 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Electrical question--similar here
In-Reply-To: <379753.22266.qm@web63706.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <000601c90584$d628cd70$236fa8c0@desktop>
	<379753.22266.qm@web63706.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <66041E0D42F143038944311254DEE7F6@xp>

Let the smoke out? Not a problem!

<http://www3.telus.net/bc_triumph_registry/smoke.htm> 

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Mike Harper
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 6:13 PM
To: 'Tim'; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; 'Oliver'; Graeme
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Electrical question--similar here

Most important thing with wiring:  Don't let the smoke out, or something
will stop working.

Mike SC (used to have british sports cars) ;-)

From mikefaggart at gmail.com  Sun Aug 24 19:15:28 2008
From: mikefaggart at gmail.com (Mike Faggart)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:15:28 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] center console
In-Reply-To: <082420081719.6504.48B1983C000EE909000019682205886172C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net>
References: <082420081719.6504.48B1983C000EE909000019682205886172C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net>
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check with Craig Halstead

On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana <
12061997 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi List, Does anyone have a center console that will fit a 67-1600 they
> would like to sell? thanks, bob ballinger, MuncieIN
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From mhknorr at msn.com  Sun Aug 24 19:29:00 2008
From: mhknorr at msn.com (Michael Knorr)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:29:00 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Kudos once again . . .
Message-ID: <BAY106-W34B6EA3BEAD65194BE08BAAA670@phx.gbl>

. . . to Keith Williams -- for updating his excellent "Setting up and
adjusting SU/Hitachi carbs on the Datsun Roadster" website, and for letting us
know he did. I've found that site so valuable I've copied it into a Word
document -- pictures and all -- and backed the document up to my offsite
backup server, just in case Keith's website ever gets shut down for some
reason or another.

I still owe you a beer and a burger for adjusting my 1600's carburetors a few
years back at Solvang, Keith. Thanks again.

Regards, Michael Knorr
1966 SPL311-03639

From noji-1 at pacbell.net  Mon Aug 25 01:01:51 2008
From: noji-1 at pacbell.net (dana nojima)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 00:01:51 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Electrical question--similar here
Message-ID: <20080825070134.4AAFA187666@autox.team.net>

There are 2 twisting type knobs on either side of the steering wheel.   One
is to reset the odometer and the other is the dimmer. 

 

After 30+ years some of mine have burned out and others seem to have carbon
build up inside. 

 

You need nimble hands to get up inside to push and twist the bulbs to get
them out.  

 

Regards,

 

Dana

 

Dana Nojima

70 2000

From chalsted at comcast.net  Mon Aug 25 05:52:10 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 07:52:10 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] eBay items, Solexes and other
Message-ID: <000c01c906a9$0252f2c0$9da07d18@craigscomputer>

I'll be putting some stuff on ebay tomorrow to run thru sunday... a very nice
used set of late Solexes, a nice clean set of early Solexes.. both of these
will have a buy it now of $1k with make offer. also plan to list a 66 Honda
305 Dream and the Lotus 7 type race car project.  have about anything used you
might want for a roadster, but too much hassle to list it all piece by piece
on ebay- ask if you're looking for something. have NOS and used sheetmetal
including door posts,  probably 15 to 20 each U20 and R16 engines, same for 4
and 5spds...old race roadsters, real good project 1500, 1600, and 2000
roadsters including a few real 67.5 2000's. need to generate some cash quick,
have a '40 Packard to pay off within 4 weeks. one of my $500 deposit deals ;-)
have a '70 Cadillac convertible to pay off too, only put $100 deposit on that
one...and a '98 Dodge Ram 4x4 I put a $50 deposit on last night that's going
to be built as my new tow vehicle with fresh rebuilt Cummins 24 valve and
Bully Dog system...

Craig
Datsun Roadsters mostly...
672000 on ebay

From chalsted at comcast.net  Mon Aug 25 05:57:38 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 07:57:38 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] free parts roadsters in Virginia
Message-ID: <001301c906a9$c5d155c0$9da07d18@craigscomputer>

last call... free parts roadsters if you need the parts, not for you to take
to the scrapyard- I can do that myself.  I have probably 15 to 20 roadsters
that I will soon start taking to the local salvage yard for scrap. I hate to
see all the suspension bits just go away, steering boxes, spindles, ball
joints.. lots of these still have differentials in them, axle shafts.. gauges,
all sorts of stuff. I just don't feel like spending my life tearing them down
to pieces which I then store in the (already overflowing) garages against the
eventual possibility that someone may want those pieces someday- I'd much
rather just build cars and drive them and enjoy the ride...
Craig

From dscrib2 at hotmail.com  Mon Aug 25 06:14:54 2008
From: dscrib2 at hotmail.com (Dana Scribner)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:14:54 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
Message-ID: <BLU119-W5F4F7DBA7E2384495FC6AF0670@phx.gbl>

Well Watkins Glen is just 11 days away. Boy I cant wait to suck in some of
those high octane fumes as the vintage cars drive by downtown. Just a
reminder, that DRONE will be having their annual cookout at the Golden Knight
Inn friday night. If you would like to attend please let me know so there will
be burger for you to bite on and please fell free to bring something to share
with everyone else.

Dana
1969 2000
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From vze2fhba at verizon.net  Mon Aug 25 08:46:57 2008
From: vze2fhba at verizon.net (Charles E Breault)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:46:57 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] T shirts
In-Reply-To: <20080825.100302.19508.2@webmail03.dca.untd.com>
References: <20080825.100302.19508.2@webmail03.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <8B99DBC56B6B490098C52CCE4EC81D67@home>

Put me down for 2 1xl baseball shirts with red sleeves.

Charlie B

 

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From: thetk5 at netzero.net [mailto:thetk5 at netzero.net] 
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:03 AM
To: dscrib2 at hotmail.com
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; drone at drone-club.com
Subject: T shirts

 

Did anyone get the email I sent with the WG T-Shirt Design?

I need to place the order ASAP and have no one thus placing an order...which
is ok...I'll order a few and we'll take money for more...lemme know please
(and here is the design one more time).

 

dtk



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From JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net  Mon Aug 25 09:23:17 2008
From: JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net (JohnnyRoadster)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:23:17 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] shipping a fender
Message-ID: <00e101c906c6$83fe1d50$670aa8c0@JohnLaptop>

Hello all,

I have looked into shipping a front fender from east to west coast.  Cheapest
so far is greyhound at $75.  Anyone know of a better/cheaper alternative to
get one from Philadelphia to Washington?

John

SPL311-19356
http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster

From stathy at shaw.ca  Mon Aug 25 09:57:26 2008
From: stathy at shaw.ca (stan k)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:57:26 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] shipping a fender
In-Reply-To: <00e101c906c6$83fe1d50$670aa8c0@JohnLaptop>
References: <00e101c906c6$83fe1d50$670aa8c0@JohnLaptop>
Message-ID: <d016ad7c873ff.48b273f6@shaw.ca>

John, I've spent a lot of time contacting all sorts of cartage companies to find the most cost effective way to ship fenders.  
I came up with the same answer as you.  Greyhoud is the cheapest. 

If you find another alternative please let us know.  

Cheers.
Stan  


----- Original Message -----
From: JohnnyRoadster <JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net>
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:23 am
Subject: [Roadsters] shipping a fender
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net

> Hello all,
> 
> I have looked into shipping a front fender from east to west 
> coast.  Cheapest
> so far is greyhound at $75.  Anyone know of a 
> better/cheaper alternative to
> get one from Philadelphia to Washington?
> 
> John
> 
> SPL311-19356
> http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster
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From matt at vander-bend.com  Mon Aug 25 10:31:30 2008
From: matt at vander-bend.com (Matt Jacquet)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:31:30 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] sighting hwy 1 Santa Cruz
Message-ID: <KEEFKEBLFKHNFLLGFNOGGEOJCGAA.matt@vander-bend.com>

Sunday 8/24 Hwy 1, heading north just south of 17 interchange

Highscreen original mellow yellow

I was heading south back to Gilroy in the Roadster...this was a world class
Roadster day!!
anyone?
Matt

From aiken1315 at bellsouth.net  Mon Aug 25 16:30:50 2008
From: aiken1315 at bellsouth.net (aiken1315 at bellsouth.net)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:30:50 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Re: Roadster T-shirts
Message-ID: <082520082230.28466.48B3329A0002DBA200006F3222230650629B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFCACECCCE020A05070E@att.net>

I did not see the original e-mail referenced earlier today so I e-mailed and received an adobe doc. with the t-shirt graphic.  Looks good.  Not sure if the attachment will show on this e-mail as it may not be allowed.  The graphic has a blue roadster with a winder and says "I wound up at the Glen" on top and "Datsun Roadsters 2008" at the bottom.  

DTK - What color, type and style of shirts do you have?  Any information on shrinkage, etc. would be appreciated.

Roadster List - If interested contact dtk off line.

David
To: aiken1315 at bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: Roadster T-shirts
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:24:46 +0000

If you could post on the  roadser list I'd appreciate it....$15 on a pre order...$20 at show and $20 plus shipping after show...
COD on preorders.
Thanks
dtk

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From aiken1315 at bellsouth.net  Mon Aug 25 16:39:39 2008
From: aiken1315 at bellsouth.net (aiken1315 at bellsouth.net)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:39:39 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Re: Roadster T-shirts
In-Reply-To: <082520082230.28466.48B3329A0002DBA200006F3222230650629B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFCACECCCE020A05070E@att.net>
Message-ID: <082520082239.26942.48B334AB00018BDE0000693E22230650629B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFCACECCCE020A05070E@att.net>

 dtk is thetk5 at netzero.net
  -------------- Original message from aiken1315 at bellsouth.net: --------------

I did not see the original e-mail referenced earlier today so I e-mailed and received an adobe doc. with the t-shirt graphic.  Looks good.  Not sure if the attachment will show on this e-mail as it may not be allowed.  The graphic has a blue roadster with a winder and says "I wound up at the Glen" on top and "Datsun 
> Roadsters 2008" at the bottom.  
> DTK - What color, type and style of shirts do you have?  Any information on 
> shrinkage, etc. would be appreciated.
> 
> Roadster List - If interested contact dtk off line.
> 
> David
> To: aiken1315 at bellsouth.net
> Subject: Re: Roadster T-shirts
> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:24:46 +0000
> If you could post on the  roadser list I'd appreciate it....$15 on a pre 
> order...$20 at show and $20 plus shipping after show...
> COD on preorders.
> Thanks
> dtk
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From roadster68 at shaw.ca  Mon Aug 25 20:43:13 2008
From: roadster68 at shaw.ca (Larry Dziuba)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:43:13 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Off Topic - Need 510 Disc Brake Rebuild Kits - Anyone
 have a source?
References: <20080825070134.4AAFA187666@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <001101c90725$7c4c7660$6401a8c0@useravjfzd6udp>

I have been searching 510 websites but not seen anyone selling these.  What 
do people use since there  are still so many on the road?  Larry.

'68 2000 - restored to 95%. 

From tom at datsun2000.com  Mon Aug 25 23:49:24 2008
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:49:24 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Sighting in Portland
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGCEJBDFAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

Last Friday, late afternoon or early evening.

On a trailer Headed West on Interstate 84 sat a primer gray high windshield
roadster with a soft top in place.  It looked like a decent project car that
has been stored for quite a while somewhere.

Anybody on the list??'

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland

A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...

but, a TRUE FRIEND will  be sitting next to you saying, "Damn ... that was
fun!"

From lars.tungen at abaris.no  Tue Aug 26 00:08:40 2008
From: lars.tungen at abaris.no (Lars Tungen)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:08:40 +0200
Subject: [Roadsters] Off Topic - Need 510 Disc Brake Rebuild Kits -
 Anyone have a source?
In-Reply-To: <001101c90725$7c4c7660$6401a8c0@useravjfzd6udp>
References: <20080825070134.4AAFA187666@autox.team.net>
	<001101c90725$7c4c7660$6401a8c0@useravjfzd6udp>
Message-ID: <006801c90742$309ecfc0$323ea8c0@ABARIS.LOCAL>

> I have been searching 510 websites but not seen anyone 
> selling these.  What do people use since there  are still so 
> many on the road?  Larry.

I bought a couple of rebuild sets for my Datsun 1800 C30 from the local
Nissan dealer a couple of months ago. These are exactly the same as the 510
(same part#). Even new calipers were available. Have you checked with
Nissan?

Lars Tungen
Norway

From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com  Tue Aug 26 18:35:25 2008
From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:35:25 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Off Topic - Need 510 Disc Brake Rebuild Kits -
 Anyone have a source?
In-Reply-To: <001101c90725$7c4c7660$6401a8c0@useravjfzd6udp>
Message-ID: <001d01c907dc$cc737cd0$0402a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>

www.partsamerica.com

They have rebuilt calipers for $30
http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail.aspx?MfrCode=A1C&MfrPartNumber=192
49&PartType=5003&PTSet=A or choose a loaded one for $60.  I obtained a lot
of 71 510 parts from these guys - at really reasonable process

Joe
70 SPL311 U20
70 SRL311
71 PL510 L18 SSS
72 HLS30

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+jrusso07=rochester.rr.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+jrusso07=rochester.rr.com at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Larry Dziuba
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:43 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Off Topic - Need 510 Disc Brake Rebuild Kits - Anyone
have a source?

I have been searching 510 websites but not seen anyone selling these.  What
do people use since there  are still so many on the road?  Larry.

'68 2000 - restored to 95%.
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From rlabate at sbcglobal.net  Tue Aug 26 19:56:02 2008
From: rlabate at sbcglobal.net (Ritchie Labate)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:56:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Revitalize Intake Manifold
Message-ID: <951436.95067.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I just received my brand new coated header, Z-Therapy carbs are a week away,
rad/fan/hoses new, battery new, MSD coil/wires new, filters new, brake master
new.....my intake manifold is the only piece that looks its age. While
installing the carbs and header, I want to revitalize the intake manifold. Any
suggestions on what cleanser/and how to really clean it up to match the rest
of my under hood beauty? Also, want to swap the fuel lines..any suggestions?
And lastly, 1 3/4" or 2" exhaust piping connecting to what type of muffler? I
saw a few at Summitt Racing but which is a good fit?
 
Thanks, everyone!
 
Ritchie
'68 2000

From chalsted at comcast.net  Wed Aug 27 05:41:53 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:41:53 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] early and late Solexes on ebay
Message-ID: <002501c90839$e7ae55d0$9da07d18@craigscomputer>

I've listed 2 sets of Solexes on ebay this week with a buy it now of $1000.
one set early and one late. both very good shape, the cars they came off were
both runners when they were put in storage. buy and pay for them today and
I'll give a 10% rebate on the price (wednesday) mortgage to pay before the 1st
rolls around again...stretched a bit thin with deposits on the '40 Packard
Super 8 Business Coupe($500) the '70 Cadillac convertible ($100) and a 98
Dodge 4x4 pickup ($50)  it's called leveraging, and I work with "what I got"
didn't have $100 left to put down on the truck...

Craig
Datsun Roadsters mostly...
http://community.webshots.com/user/672000

From chalsted at comcast.net  Wed Aug 27 07:16:32 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:16:32 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] late style Solexes on ebay sold
Message-ID: <002a01c90847$1fa5ce70$9da07d18@craigscomputer>

just an update, the late Solexes are already gone. still have the early set
for the moment...
Craig

From chalsted at comcast.net  Wed Aug 27 10:08:55 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:08:55 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] further Solex update
Message-ID: <001301c9085f$34c30080$9da07d18@craigscomputer>

the early set is bought and paid for also.

Craig
Datsun Roadsters mostly...
http://community.webshots.com/user/672000

From chalsted at comcast.net  Wed Aug 27 18:35:23 2008
From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:35:23 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 69 2000 for sale in the Carolinas
Message-ID: <00a801c908a5$f5b81dc0$9da07d18@craigscomputer>

I have a customer looking to sell a 69 2000. fresh paint, rust free car to
start, runs good, new michelins, volvo brake conversion, powdercoated
wheels... still needs a driver's door side trim strip, driver's seat
reupholstered, new carpets. evidently not much else. contact me offlist if
interested, it's red and in the Carolinas. I have pix I can scan and send.
Craig
Datsun Roadsters mostly...
http://community.webshots.com/user/672000

From drreich48 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 27 22:14:23 2008
From: drreich48 at yahoo.com (DeWayne Reichert)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:14:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] time for a make over
Message-ID: <108383.24277.qm@web39104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

OK summers coming to an end and I'm thinking of stripping my wife 68 2000 for
the winter. It needs some body work (rocker panels replaced and a few dents) 
a fresh coat of paint before we do the interior. So how about some helpful
hints one what not to do. How far do I strip it and where do I take a roller
for work. We're out in Vaughn WA. (by Gig Harbor) and we need a shop that wont
screw us over or take our life savings. We have other classic's waiting
repairs so it might work out good for them.
 
DeWayne & Jeanne
1968 SPL 311 - 1605

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Fri Aug 29 12:27:54 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:27:54 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Solex carb Q answered - only semi off-topic
Message-ID: <E1KZ8hL-00070F-JS@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi All,

I just wanted to pass along another resource for our little community. This
could be helpful, especially to those who are also "Dimers".

 

Wolfcreekracing.com is the address. While putting back together my U20
Solex, I was wondering what those two little blocked off hose barbs coming
out from the bottom of my carbs were (late style 44PHH Solexes). The Mikuni
American manual didn't tell me. Mikuni American Corp couldn't tell me. They
directed me to Todd. I left him a message asking my question. He called me
back in a BIG HURRY (2-3 minutes actually). Todd told me what they were,
that they were not used in my particular application, and the exact size of
the part used to block them off. 

 

The site has a really cool classified section! Don't forget to check it out!

 

Thanks Todd!

 

Thanks for the bandwidth, List,

Matt Smith (70' SRL 311 Solex)

In Search Of. More power than is safe, necessary, and/or reasonable!  :-)

From tputland at charter.net  Fri Aug 29 14:40:41 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:40:41 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] carb oil--how much?
Message-ID: <20080829164041.9B3FN.668478.root@mp13>

I get a fair amount of stumble when the car is not warmed up. I check the pots and I seem to have one that does not have enough oil in it. I did some poking around and was not able to find out how much I will need to put in. 

How can one tell if the pot is full enough?

Is is possible to overfill and thus have a detrimental affect?

TIA

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Fri Aug 29 18:09:39 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:09:39 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] carb oil--how much?
Message-ID: <bd7.3a855b15.35e9e9c3@aol.com>

It takes about a tablespoon of oil. If you look on the "tighten by hand" it  
should have level marks. If not look down the hole and you will see a ring. 
Fill  to just below that level. If you get a little too much it will leak into 
the  carb and go away with no significant effect. 
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 8/29/2008 1:41:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
tputland at charter.net writes:

I get a  fair amount of stumble when the car is not warmed up. I check the 
pots and I  seem to have one that does not have enough oil in it. I did some 
poking around  and was not able to find out how much I will need to put in. 

How can  one tell if the pot is full enough?

Is is possible to overfill and thus  have a detrimental affect?

TIA

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL  AND SRL
Still clueless but always  learning





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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Fri Aug 29 18:18:36 2008
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:18:36 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] carb oil--how much?
In-Reply-To: <bd7.3a855b15.35e9e9c3@aol.com>
References: <bd7.3a855b15.35e9e9c3@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CAD84D14593183-74C-76CD@webmail-ne14.sysops.aol.com>

 Keith,
How long should the oil last? Can it leak out? 
Thanks,
Linda


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith0alan at aol.com
To: tputland at charter.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 5:09 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] carb oil--how much?










It takes about a tablespoon of oil. If you look on the "tighten by hand" it  
should have level marks. If not look down the hole and you will see a ring. 
Fill  to just below that level. If you get a little too much it will leak into 
the  carb and go away with no significant effect. 
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 8/29/2008 1:41:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
tputland at charter.net writes:

I get a  fair amount of stumble when the car is not warmed up. I check the 
pots and I  seem to have one that does not have enough oil in it. I did some 
poking around  and was not able to find out how much I will need to put in. 

How can  one tell if the pot is full enough?

Is is possible to overfill and thus  have a detrimental affect?

TIA

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL  AND SRL
Still clueless but always  learning





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From quinlanhook at comcast.net  Fri Aug 29 18:29:06 2008
From: quinlanhook at comcast.net (quinlanhook at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:29:06 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] carb oil--how much? Better yet -> What type of oil ?
Message-ID: <083020080029.2430.48B894520003B0E80000097E221555172405010108020E0402079A9E@comcast.net>

Folks,

  I have been watching this message thread, but my question is what is the weight of oil to use ??  Someone told me to just ATF ...??


 Thanks,

Cam
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net
>  Keith,
> How long should the oil last? Can it leak out? 
> Thanks,
> Linda
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith0alan at aol.com
> To: tputland at charter.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Sent: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 5:09 pm
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] carb oil--how much?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> It takes about a tablespoon of oil. If you look on the "tighten by hand" it  
> should have level marks. If not look down the hole and you will see a ring. 
> Fill  to just below that level. If you get a little too much it will leak into 
> the  carb and go away with no significant effect. 
>  
> keith
>  
>  
> In a message dated 8/29/2008 1:41:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
> tputland at charter.net writes:
> 
> I get a  fair amount of stumble when the car is not warmed up. I check the 
> pots and I  seem to have one that does not have enough oil in it. I did some 
> poking around  and was not able to find out how much I will need to put in. 
> 
> How can  one tell if the pot is full enough?
> 
> Is is possible to overfill and thus  have a detrimental affect?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL  AND SRL
> Still clueless but always  learning
> 
> 
> 
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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Fri Aug 29 18:29:42 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:29:42 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] carb oil--how much?
Message-ID: <d65.293d39aa.35e9ee76@aol.com>

I don't remember if it is officially a weekly or monthly check item but it  
takes a long time for it to go down. It doesn't leak out the bottom. It will 
not  go away from sitting. The oil slowly gets lost between the piston and dome 
and  leaks down into the carb. I'll bet there are some here that haven't been 
topped  up in years. 
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 8/29/2008 5:19:20 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
ljordan704 at netscape.net writes:

Keith,
How long should the oil last? Can it leak out?  
Thanks,
Linda







-----Original  Message-----
From: Keith0alan at aol.com
To: tputland at charter.net;  datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 5:09 pm
Subject:  Re: [Roadsters] carb oil--how  much?










It takes about a tablespoon  of oil. If you look on the "tighten by hand" it  
should have level  marks. If not look down the hole and you will see a ring. 
Fill  to  just below that level. If you get a little too much it will leak 
into  
the  carb and go away with no significant effect.  

keith


In a message dated 8/29/2008 1:41:37 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time,  
tputland at charter.net writes:

I get a   fair amount of stumble when the car is not warmed up. I check the 
pots and  I  seem to have one that does not have enough oil in it. I did some 
 
poking around  and was not able to find out how much I will need to  put in. 

How can  one tell if the pot is full enough?

Is is  possible to overfill and thus  have a detrimental  affect?

TIA

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL  AND  SRL
Still clueless but always   learning








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From Keith0alan at aol.com  Fri Aug 29 18:31:10 2008
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:31:10 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] carb oil--how much? Better yet -> What type of oil ?
Message-ID: <d56.15ab57b8.35e9eece@aol.com>

The book says 10W oil. ATF works fine in most cars. 
 
keith

 
 
In a message dated 8/29/2008 5:29:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
quinlanhook at comcast.net writes:

Folks,

I have been watching this message thread, but my  question is what is the 
weight of oil to use ??  Someone told me to just  ATF  ...??


Thanks,

Cam




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From tputland at charter.net  Fri Aug 29 19:06:36 2008
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:06:36 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] carb oil--how much----Thanks & a confession
In-Reply-To: <d65.293d39aa.35e9ee76@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20080829210636.RG005.78853.root@mp14>

Thanks to all who replied. 

Now that I know what I am looking for.......I have a pot that is low. The carbs were removed last year for head work so I need to figure out why I have one that is low.

Now that I know what I am looking for........I admit that I should have been wearing the glasses I recently started using to read at night before bed. Had I had my "new" glasses on I might have been able to see the dip stick type marks on the plunger. 

Thanks again all for the help!!

Happy Labor Day weekend all...and LAMENT THE END OF SUMMER (KINDA) in the colder regions. 

Just a small amount less clueless and one child off the college!!!!! Gimme a pint o plain mate!

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From az589 at lafn.org  Fri Aug 29 18:51:42 2008
From: az589 at lafn.org (Stan Chernoff)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:51:42 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] California Smog - secret trick legislation
In-Reply-To: <66041E0D42F143038944311254DEE7F6@xp>
References: <000601c90584$d628cd70$236fa8c0@desktop>
	<379753.22266.qm@web63706.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<66041E0D42F143038944311254DEE7F6@xp>
Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20080829174719.04ddd6a8@lafn.org>

WE DON'T NEED ANNUAL INSPECTIONS ON ANY OF OUR
CARS.  PLEASE CONTACT YOUR LEGISLATORS and the GOVERNATOR.
Stan
===========

In an effort to avoid public scrutiny, California
Assemblyman Dave Jones
(<mailto:Assemblymember.jones at assembly.ca.gov>Assemblymember.jones at assembly.c
a.gov)
has amended a completely unrelated bill with
language to require annual Smog check inspections
for vehicles 15-years old and older. This
represents an obvious attempt to sneak through
legislation in the closing days of the
legislative session that had been previously
defeated (A.B. 616). The new bill is designated as A.B. 3053.
While pre-1976 motor vehicles would remain exempt
under existing California law, this proposal
ignores the fact that vehicles 15-years old and
older still constitute a small portion of the
overall vehicle population and are a poor source
from which to look for emissions
reduction.  Furthermore, the bill would direct
that the funds generated through annual
inspection fees be used to scrap older cars. This
represents another attempt by California
legislators and regulators to scapegoat older cars.
This is the type of activity that fuels distrust
in public officials. SEMA caught this lawmakers
underhanded attempt to circumvent public process
and is now calling on you to help defeat A.B 3053 before its too late.
Time is of the Essence!  We Urge You to Call the
California Senate Appropriations Committee (List
Below) Immediately to Oppose A.B. 3053

California Senate Appropriations Committee
Senator Tom Torlakson  Chair
Phone: 916/651-4007
Email: <mailto:senator.torlakson at sen.ca.gov>senator.torlakson at sen.ca.gov
Senator Dave Cox
Phone: 916/651-4001
Email: <mailto:senator.cox at sen.ca.gov>senator.cox at sen.ca.gov
Senator Sam Aanestad
Phone: 916/651-4004
Email: <mailto:senator.aanestad at sen.ca.gov>senator.aanestad at sen.ca.gov
Senator Roy Ashburn
Phone: 916/651-4018
Email: <mailto:senator.ashburn at sen.ca.gov>senator.ashburn at sen.ca.gov
Senator Gilbert Cedillo
Phone: 916/651-4022
Email: <mailto:senator.cedillo at sen.ca.gov>senator.cedillo at sen.ca.gov
Senator Ellen Corbett
Phone: 916/651-4010
Senator Robert Dutton
Phone: 916/651-4031
Email: <mailto:senator.dutton at sen.ca.gov>senator.dutton at sen.ca.gov
Senator Dean Florez
Phone: 916/651-4016
Email: <mailto:senator.florez at sen.ca.gov>senator.florez at sen.ca.gov
Senator Sheila Kuehl
Phone: 916/651-4023
Email: <mailto:senator.kuehl at sen.ca.gov>senator.kuehl at sen.ca.gov
Senator Jenny Oropeza
Phone: 916/651-4028
Senator Mark Ridley-Thomas
Phone: 916/651-4026
Senator George Runner
Phone: 916/651-4017
Email: <mailto:senator.runner at sen.ca.gov>senator.runner at sen.ca.gov
Senator Joe Simitian
Phone: 916/651-4011
Email: <mailto:senator.simitian at sen.ca.gov>senator.simitian at sen.ca.gov
Senator Mark Wyland
Phone: 916/651-4038
Senator Leland Yee
Phone: 916/651-4008
Governor Schwarzenegger
916-445-2841
email: <mailto:governor at governor.ca.gov>governor at governor.ca.gov




gkmcc please ignore

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Sat Aug 30 03:00:03 2008
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:00:03 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Vendor Reply (was Solex carb Q answered - only semi
 off-topic)
Message-ID: <E1KZMJL-0006Of-Bs@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I don't believe Todd's reply went thru to the list, so I thought I'd re-post
it. 

 

  _____  

From: Todd Walrich [mailto:twalrich at ix.netcom.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 3:40 PM
To: Matthew A. Smith; 'Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net'
Subject: Re: Solex carb Q answered - only semi off-topic

 

Matt,

Thanks for the kudos.  Just as additional info for everyone out there, we
are the largest distributor Worldwide for Mikuni automotive sidedraft carbs
and parts.  We have all parts and jetting in stock for immediate delivery
and we ship worldwide as well.  We also do complete refurbs and setups in
house for L-series and U-series motors.  We have a complete U-series
manifold carb setup with NOS linkage, NOS Isolators as well as completely
refurbed carbs with all new cad-plated steel bits that will be ready for
delivery in the end of September.  If anyone is interested, drop me a note
privately to:    Twalrich at wolfcreekracing.com

Thanks very much Matt,

Todd Walrich
Wolf Creek Racing
516-635-6775

-----Original Message----- 
From: "Matthew A. Smith" 
Sent: Aug 29, 2008 2:27 PM 
To: "'Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net'" 
Cc: Twalrich at wolfcreekracing.com 
Subject: Solex carb Q answered - only semi off-topic 




Hi All,

I just wanted to pass along another resource for our little community. This
could be helpful, especially to those who are also "Dimers".

 

Wolfcreekracing.com is the address. While putting back together my U20
Solex, I was wondering what those two little blocked off hose barbs coming
out from the bottom of my carbs were (late style 44PHH Solexes). The Mikuni
American manual didn't tell me. Mikuni American Corp couldn't tell me. They
directed me to Todd. I left him a message asking my question. He called me
back in a BIG HURRY (2-3 minutes actually). Todd told me what they were,
that they were not used in my particular application, and the exact size of
the part used to block them off. 

 

The site has a really cool classified section! Don't forget to check it out!

 

Thanks Todd!

 

Thanks for the bandwidth, List,

Matt Smith (70' SRL 311 Solex)

In Search Of. More power than is safe, necessary, and/or reasonable!  :-)

From aultgc at att.net  Sat Aug 30 21:26:00 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 22:26:00 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Solex Carb Starting Issues
Message-ID: <002e01c90b19$4abdcb10$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

List,

67 2000 Solex (late, I believe).  Runs very well once warm.  Fuel economy in
the mid-20s on the highway.  210 main jets/55 air correction jets.

This puppy doesn't like to start.  The starting device, a.k.a. "choke",
appears to be set up correctly from a mechanical standpoint, but is no help in
starting the car.  (A conversation with Todd at Wolf Creek indicates
installation is OK.)  My current procedure for starting the car is to give it
one full pedal shot then crank it.   If that fails, which it always does,
repeat.  I have always been able to get it going, but this is a poor
comparison to my '66 with SUs which starts on the "choke" every time
regardless of ambient temperature.

Who out there has experience with Solex carbs in low temperatures (32 F and
lower)?  Will the "pump it and crank until it starts" approach work in cold
weather, or does one really need the starting device?  Does it work at low
ambient temperatures when it doesn't at moderate temperatures?  (60F versus
32F).

Afraid to take it to Wisconsin in October, I am

Gary

From RWM at RWMann.com  Sat Aug 30 21:41:51 2008
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM (Out of the Office))
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:41:51 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Solex Carb Starting Issues
In-Reply-To: <002e01c90b19$4abdcb10$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
References: <002e01c90b19$4abdcb10$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <48BA12FF.8030408@RWMann.com>

Gary,

I've seen this behavior and it was a case of insufficiently advanced 
timing, in most cases set to "smogged" factory TDC.

Presumably this is a no-smog distributor, so should be set to 20 BTDC.

Is the Solex starter circuit works properly, OAT shouldn't matter much.

- Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex




Gary and Cindy Ault wrote:

>List,
>
>67 2000 Solex (late, I believe).  Runs very well once warm.  Fuel economy in
>the mid-20s on the highway.  210 main jets/55 air correction jets.
>
>This puppy doesn't like to start.  The starting device, a.k.a. "choke",
>appears to be set up correctly from a mechanical standpoint, but is no help in
>starting the car.  (A conversation with Todd at Wolf Creek indicates
>installation is OK.)  My current procedure for starting the car is to give it
>one full pedal shot then crank it.   If that fails, which it always does,
>repeat.  I have always been able to get it going, but this is a poor
>comparison to my '66 with SUs which starts on the "choke" every time
>regardless of ambient temperature.
>
>Who out there has experience with Solex carbs in low temperatures (32 F and
>lower)?  Will the "pump it and crank until it starts" approach work in cold
>weather, or does one really need the starting device?  Does it work at low
>ambient temperatures when it doesn't at moderate temperatures?  (60F versus
>32F).
>
>Afraid to take it to Wisconsin in October, I am
>
>Gary

From Walter.Peterson at cox.net  Sun Aug 31 01:45:03 2008
From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter Peterson)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 00:45:03 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Solex Carb Starting Issues
In-Reply-To: <002e01c90b19$4abdcb10$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
References: <002e01c90b19$4abdcb10$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <000101c90b3d$7ac4fad0$704ef070$@Peterson@cox.net>

I usually give it 2-3 pumps of full throttle before starting and then have
to hold the idle higher with the throttle for a minute or so.  I often
forget to wait for the electric fuel pump to fill the carburetors before
pumping the pedal and then hitting the starter.  If I goof this up I could
over prime the start and have to wait a minute or just run the starter to
clear it.

I use a pair of early 44's and while the "starter valves" do function, they
really only hold the idle higher once it's started.  I've tried to tune them
up but they never delivered the required fuel enrichment needed.
In the case of the SU, the Main jets get dropped to seriously or even
excessively enrich the mixture.  I recall setting SU chokes to some half-way
point and having to keep it that way for some time.

Happy Motoring,

Walter Peterson
Goleta Ca, 93117

805 968-7290 Home
805 689-7557 Mobile

H20 Stroker

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Gary and Cindy Ault
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 8:26 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Solex Carb Starting Issues

List,

67 2000 Solex (late, I believe).  Runs very well once warm.  Fuel economy in
the mid-20s on the highway.  210 main jets/55 air correction jets.

This puppy doesn't like to start.  The starting device, a.k.a. "choke",
appears to be set up correctly from a mechanical standpoint, but is no help
in
starting the car.  (A conversation with Todd at Wolf Creek indicates
installation is OK.)  My current procedure for starting the car is to give
it
one full pedal shot then crank it.   If that fails, which it always does,
repeat.  I have always been able to get it going, but this is a poor
comparison to my '66 with SUs which starts on the "choke" every time
regardless of ambient temperature.

Who out there has experience with Solex carbs in low temperatures (32 F and
lower)?  Will the "pump it and crank until it starts" approach work in cold
weather, or does one really need the starting device?  Does it work at low
ambient temperatures when it doesn't at moderate temperatures?  (60F versus
32F).

Afraid to take it to Wisconsin in October, I am

Gary
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From Walter.Peterson at cox.net  Sun Aug 31 01:48:49 2008
From: Walter.Peterson at cox.net (Walter Peterson)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 00:48:49 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Solex Carb Starting Issues
In-Reply-To: <48BA12FF.8030408@RWMann.com>
References: <002e01c90b19$4abdcb10$6402a8c0@gaxp1>
	<48BA12FF.8030408@RWMann.com>
Message-ID: <000201c90b3e$01bbc2d0$05334870$@Peterson@cox.net>

Me too, my motor is set to 20 BTDC at idle, re-curved to 36 max & no
Vac-advance.

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of RWM (Out of the Office)
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 8:42 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Solex Carb Starting Issues

Gary,

I've seen this behavior and it was a case of insufficiently advanced 
timing, in most cases set to "smogged" factory TDC.

Presumably this is a no-smog distributor, so should be set to 20 BTDC.

Is the Solex starter circuit works properly, OAT shouldn't matter much.

- Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex




Gary and Cindy Ault wrote:

>List,
>
>67 2000 Solex (late, I believe).  Runs very well once warm.  Fuel economy
in
>the mid-20s on the highway.  210 main jets/55 air correction jets.
>
>This puppy doesn't like to start.  The starting device, a.k.a. "choke",
>appears to be set up correctly from a mechanical standpoint, but is no help
in
>starting the car.  (A conversation with Todd at Wolf Creek indicates
>installation is OK.)  My current procedure for starting the car is to give
it
>one full pedal shot then crank it.   If that fails, which it always does,
>repeat.  I have always been able to get it going, but this is a poor
>comparison to my '66 with SUs which starts on the "choke" every time
>regardless of ambient temperature.
>
>Who out there has experience with Solex carbs in low temperatures (32 F and
>lower)?  Will the "pump it and crank until it starts" approach work in cold
>weather, or does one really need the starting device?  Does it work at low
>ambient temperatures when it doesn't at moderate temperatures?  (60F versus
>32F).
>
>Afraid to take it to Wisconsin in October, I am
>
>Gary
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From sportsix63 at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 31 11:24:58 2008
From: sportsix63 at yahoo.com (jim williams)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:24:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] Convertible Top Questions
Message-ID: <854404.25886.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Where woud I find the best deal on a fabric top for a 1600 Roadster?
Last: It appears that the bow on my car has warpped. Can that happen?
The car has always been inside and the original top is still on it.
Can te bow be repaired?
I would use the original top but it has shrunk.



Jim Williams  Lewisburg, West Virginia

From bradandgayle at charter.net  Sun Aug 31 19:54:43 2008
From: bradandgayle at charter.net (Brad and Gayle Holmes)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:54:43 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Carolina Z_Hunt Charity Driving Event and SEROC update.
Message-ID: <8662B87AA1FD45BEAC02649827126E54@holmes>

Dear Listers and SEROCers who's email addresses bounced when I emailed you

First, SEROC member Sid Raper from Jacksonville, FL wanted me to share the
info below. Please contact Justin and or the URL for more Carolina Z event
info.

Also, SEROCers a reminder to update your info on the directory page and the
classified page of the SEROC web site http://www.seroc.net/  This is a great
time to check out your info and send me an update. There are many of you who's
email addresses are like the checks I write, so I'm unable to send club info
to you. (perhaps that's on purpose....hmmmmm)  The classified page will be
purged if you don't let me know to leave your item posted. I'll do the purge
(oh my, that doesn't sound nice at all:-) next weekend. That should give you
folks who went away for the weekend, either for R&R or perhaps running away
from a hurricane time to contact me.

To our coastal members and non-members on the Gulf or East coast, please take
care!

Keep the soft side up and Enjoy the Ride!

Brad Holmes
Pres, SEROC
Montgomery, AL


----- Original Message -----
From: sidney raper
To: Brad Holmes ; Brad Holmes
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 3:29 PM
Subject: FW: Carolina Z_Hunt Charity Driving Event


Brad,

Would you please share the news?

Sidney Raper
1964 1500 (still a project.... sigh....)
1967 SRL311 00076 (alive again!)
Jacksonville Florida
http://www.geocities.com/roadsternut/index.html




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From: mark at dealermats.com
To: spl310 at hotmail.com
Subject: FW: Carolina Z_Hunt Charity Driving Event
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:41:36 -0400


Sid,



I dont have anyone from Serocs address can you pass this on?



  Would you guys mind forwarding some information along to the RoadsterGroups?
As I'm sure you're both aware, we'll be holding our first annualCarolina
Z_Hunt Charity Driving Event on the 20th of September.  It's opento everyone,
so if you know of other car enthusiasts that might want to helpout of the
families of our deployed NC National Guardsmen and women, please letthem know
as well. More information can be found at the following link:

  http://www.carolinazclub.com/ZHunt.html

  Thanks a lot, guy.  I appreciate your help.

  -Justin



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From aultgc at att.net  Sun Aug 31 21:34:40 2008
From: aultgc at att.net (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:34:40 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Convertible Top Questions
References: <854404.25886.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001e01c90be3$ab96ac70$6402a8c0@gaxp1>

Jim,

By "best deal", do you mean the least expensive, or the best quality for the 
money?  Stay Fast tops are great canvas replacements for the originals, but 
they are not the least expensive.

Can top bows warp?  Absolutely, especially the '68 to '70 models.  Can they 
be repaired?  Yes.  I understand there is a supplier out there who does such 
repairs, but I don't recall who.  Can someone else help?

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jim williams" <sportsix63 at yahoo.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 12:24 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Convertible Top Questions


> Where woud I find the best deal on a fabric top for a 1600 Roadster?
> Last: It appears that the bow on my car has warpped. Can that happen?
> The car has always been inside and the original top is still on it.
> Can te bow be repaired?
> I would use the original top but it has shrunk.
>
>
>
> Jim Williams  Lewisburg, West Virginia
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