[Roadsters] Founding Fathers

[Jerry Krakauer]

Guess that leaves G.W. B. out, his administration clearly doesn't support 
any  of those.

Jerry Krakauer

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "steve newby" <csp541983rx7 at yahoo.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Founding Fathers


>   While your facts are correct, and in the context of the time the
>   fathers were certainly not "conservative" they do in fact represent
>   the core beliefs of todays conservative movement. These are personal
>   freedom AND personal responsibilty, private property rights and most
>   importantly LIMITED government.
>   --- On Tue, 4/22/08, paul hatter <jhatt at inreach.com> wrote:
>
>     From: paul hatter <jhatt at inreach.com>
>     Subject: [Roadsters] Founding Fathers
>     To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>     Date: Tuesday, April 22, 2008, 8:07 PM
> "The founding fathers were conservatives" is a blanket statement which
> is
> untrue. Within the political climate of the late 18th century the ideas of 
> the
> revolution were not considered conservative. The founding fathers covered 
> a
> gamut of political ideology. If they had all been conservative John Adams 
> and
> Thomas Jefferson would not have had their falling out.(Adams refused to be
> present at Jefferson's inauguration.) The political argument was which was
> to
> hold more power, the federal government, or the states. The Federalists 
> wanted
> a strong national government while the Democratic-Republicans wanted 
> strong
> state governments. The argument raged until 1865. The civil war was not
> initially fought over slavery but, rather, which political entity would be
> more powerful. Incidentally, the Republican party was originally the 
> liberal
> party. "Free land, free trade, and free men," you can't get any
> more liberal
> than that. Sorry about the history lesson but this is what I have been 
> doing
> for almost 40 years. Paul Hatter
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