[Roadsters] Founding Fathers

[Durf & Sue Hyson]

Steve , at best you can claim that "some" of the core beliefs were 
represented . The rest are often about 180 degrees out. Paul is correct 
about the essential make-up of the founding fathers. Historically when 
you are trying to pigeon-hole with a descriptive term you will be 
incorrect as much as you will be correct as time and circumstance alter 
what the term's current definition is. Besides , it doesn't matter at 
all what you call them. Actual  intentions , actions , and achievements 
or accomplishments provide the proper definition in history whatever the 
"tag" was. By the way the founding fathers were never , to a man , for 
limited government. They were  , however , for limiting government 
applied without the involvement of the people being governed and for 
spreading the base of government to ensure it's safety . (three 
branches/checks and balances)
The moral of the story ? Think for yourself as they did . Forget the 
rhetoric and the titles . Choose on what you know and believe and think 
will bring the best result. The biggest failure in all of the history of 
American government ? The Party lever on a voting machine. Buying the 
farm to get the cow gets you the cow and all the crap that's lying 
around the barnyard. All that you wanted was the cow.

Many apologies for the rant off topic. I am just rooting for people to 
think for themselves. My line ends with me. Your Grandchildren will be 
better off if we all pay attention. You guys know where to aim the 
arrows. Feel free to do it off site.

Thanks, Durf

steve newby wrote:
>    While your facts are correct, and in the context of the time the
>    fathers were certainly not "conservative" they do in fact represent
>    the core beliefs of todays conservative movement.